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callieor scroll up rather than constantly requesting the same link12:02
osh_callie: no need. I got the info I wanted. so you get your break anyway.12:02
calliewhat about next time osh_ ?12:03
kesslerHmm, that wasn't a pleasent start for kubunto. It just crashed for no reason12:03
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osh_callie: was it really that annoying? it's not like the channel is overflowing with other activity. but yes, I could have scrolled up a bit but was too lazy. next time I'll ask someone to !tell me about it instead.12:06
kesslerIf the root is locked in kubunto, how do you install new packages?12:06
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Hobbsee_awaykessler: using sudo12:06
Hobbsee_awaykessler: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo12:07
kesslermeh, konquerer crashes every time i try to open the link =/12:07
Hobbsee_awayosh_: if you ever go into #ubuntu and do that, or here when it's busier, it certainly gets annoying - so we tell people not to do it on principle, just like pasting12:08
jorikis there a one button click backup solution for kubuntu?12:08
kessler6 (SIGABRT)12:08
Hobbsee_awaykessler: use w3m from a console or something?12:08
Hobbsee_awayjorik: you might want to see konserv12:08
jorikokies, thx12:08
Hobbsee_away(it's a program, should be in your kmenu)12:09
kesslerHobbsee_away: i'd rather hear if anyone has a hint on how to keep konquerer from crashing?12:09
Hobbsee_awaykessler: true - have you got the latest updates?12:09
kessleras said before, i've just installed ubunto, with the newest cd image from the website12:09
kessleri logged in, started irc, and here i am12:10
Hobbsee_awaykessler: breezy or dapper?12:10
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kessleruhm, no idea really. uname -a : Linux kessler 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux12:11
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Hobbsee_awaykessler: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade12:11
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Hobbsee_awaythen try again, once all of that is done12:11
Hobbsee_awaythe password it asks for is the one you set at installation12:11
kesslerah, wicked12:12
Hobbsee_awaynow, i'm really going to be away now - back in a bit12:12
C-O-L-T!javadeb12:12
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/12:12
kesslerthx mate12:12
Hobbsee_awayno problems12:12
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C-O-L-THobbsee_away: i can not download debs12:13
thegladiatorthere is no link to kcontrol from the menus ?12:13
C-O-L-THobbsee_away: java debs12:13
osh_!tell C-O-L-T about javadebs12:13
thegladiatorhow do I open kcontrol from the menus ?12:13
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C-O-L-Thow can i remove all my firewall settings12:14
C-O-L-Tso delete iptables12:14
kesslerHow good is kubunto at detecting hardware? I want to play quake4 (<3 for making mainsteam games for native linux) on my not-so-high-end box, so how big performance gains could i get from recompiling the kernel by hand?12:15
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cleo0,5fps? ;)12:16
kessler(Compiled kernels before, it wouldn't be my first time. But it is kindda time consuming, so if i could skip it, i would)12:16
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kesslerguess i'll skip it then12:17
dandielionousAhhh ha ha ha  I've got my dictionary working.12:17
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dandielionousI had to fall back on the terminal and use apt-get but I did it.12:18
dandielionousYooo hooo.12:18
dandielionouslol12:18
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dandielionousNow if I could just figure out how to get my music player working. :)12:18
cleoportable music player?12:19
dandielionousI just want to be able to listen to radio stations online on my desktop.12:19
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dandielionousI think I've installed all the music players there are.12:19
cleodoes amarok not work for you?12:19
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dandielionousBut sadly enough I can't get sound out of any of them.12:20
dandielionousI have kscd on here that will play cds.12:20
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dandielionousI'm wondering if there is a conflict with amarok.12:20
murph2481alright quick question....12:20
murph2481every time i boot up i have to go to KDE control panel12:20
murph2481click on the wireless profile i want to activate, click activate12:20
murph2481then go to konsole and type sudo dhclient12:21
murph2481and then my wireless card is working12:21
murph2481how do i do that so it happens automatically when i start up?12:21
dandielionousThat sounds like a pain.12:21
dandielionouscleo do you use amarok?12:21
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dandielionousSorry murph2481 I can't help your problem.12:21
toko123greetings12:21
dandielionous<<<<newbie12:22
larsividandielionous: I had to change the sink in amarok12:22
murph2481:( i mean it takes 30 seconds to do it....but just wondering if there was a way to set it up automatically12:22
dandielionousThe sink?12:22
murph2481<<<<newbie as well12:22
dandielionous;)12:22
cleodandielionous: got kubuntu on my notebook, I don't need sound/music here12:22
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larsividandielionous: the backend, sortof12:22
murph2481dandielionous XMMS worked for me12:23
jorikkessler, optimizing does make a diffrence, more so if you patch your kernel with the right patchsets ... i havent bothered with that in years tho because stock kernels are usually stabler12:23
dandielionouslarsivi: do you know if amarok has conflicts with kscd?12:23
dandielionousI'm at the point of uninstalling all my music programs and starting over.12:23
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murph2481amarok doesn't work for me either....12:23
dandielionousI can't tell if I have conflicts.12:23
kesslerjorik: I see. Well, not much point in having a super fast gaming setup that only works for 10 mins at a time.12:23
larsividandielionous: don't really think there are conflicts, but I have in general problems with arTs12:23
kesslerguess i'll take my chances with the preset one12:24
joriktrue :-)12:24
larsivichanged it to one the others (gstreamer?)12:24
toko123I'm trying to add a shortcut application link to my Kde launcher I can get it to execute from the command line but it gets stuck from the launcher I've tried konsole -e java-jar /foo/foo/foo.jar the launcher opens a java console and times out12:24
dandielionousI tried XMMS, Xing, jukebox, amarok, kscd,12:24
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dandielionousand more12:24
murph2481yuk12:24
dandielionousWhat is gstreamer another program?12:24
jorikyou can always multi boot with windows for games, thats what i do ... except for ET12:24
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jorikET ROX !12:24
cleo!gstreamer12:24
ubotuI haven't a clue, cleo12:24
cleohm :)12:24
cleoI think its a sound framework12:25
thegladiatorcan i adjust the services that are intializd during boot up?12:25
dandielionouslarsivi: Do you have a program that is actually working for you?12:25
cleothegladiator: update-rc.d12:25
larsiviAmarok12:25
dandielionousoh ok12:25
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dandielionousAnd sound comes out of your speakers?12:26
dandielionous<<<<doh slaps head  the man just said it worked for him.12:26
murph2481alright another question...i have dapper flight 2 installed...so when they release something new...will i have to upgrade everything?....or will Adept upgrade get it for me?12:26
cleodandielionous: try installing gstreamer0.8-mad and try amarok again then12:26
dandielionousOkay and in laymans tongue larsivi what did you have to do to make it work?12:26
murph2481basically do i have to download the ISO and reinstall?12:26
dandielionousokay.12:27
murph2481or can i just upgrade through adept?12:27
cleomurph2481: I don't use adept, but apt-get dist-upgrade works well for that12:27
larsividandielionous: I changed the backend somewhere in the Amarok settings (and making sure it was installed using Adept)12:27
murph2481cleo: ah so i can upgrade i dont have to reinstall12:28
murph2481cleo: good thats what i wanted to hear :)12:28
cleomurph2481: yes, of course12:28
dandielionousI installed it using synaptic.12:28
murph2481cleo: few i was going to be pissed i have got all my settings the way I like them12:28
murph2481and finally got galleon running for my tivo :)12:28
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_kesslerHmm... It seems like konqueror crashes every time i try downloading something. And it takes down the whole system in the fall =/12:29
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callieanyone here have a good understanding of networking using crossover cables?12:30
_kesslerand it still happends after i updated my packages12:30
murph2481_kessler: i downloaded firefox12:30
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dandielionousdang I installed gstreamer but now I can't open amarok.12:31
dandielionousgrrrrr12:31
dandielionouslol12:31
cleodandielionous: strange12:31
Voodoo_Vibewhen i try to start XP it says there is no operating system, and if i start with XP cd i can see that the filesystem on C: in labeled "Unknown" but i can access it through Linux and watch the movies and all.... tried to do a Fixmbr from Win xp cd... but no luck! what can i do??12:32
dandielionousI'm trying xine.12:32
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dandielionousbuffer, buffer buffer and no music.12:32
Tm_TVoodoo_Vibe: stop using XP ?12:32
cleodandielionous: try amarok --engine gstreamer   in console12:33
Voodoo_VibeTm_T: my lady wont allow that, believe me i tried!12:33
Tm_TVoodoo_Vibe: believe me if you hide all XP install cd's he have to use to it =)12:33
dandielionousokay amarok opened now.12:34
Tm_Tdandielionous: I use gstreamer with amaroK12:34
dandielionoustype that in a terminal?12:34
Voodoo_VibeTm_T: yeah, thats a good idea! lol12:34
dandielionousI don't understand exactly what gstreamer is.12:34
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dandielionousIt helps amarok work better?12:34
Tm_Tdandielionous: it's similar to xine12:34
dandielionousI'm just trying to get something that will work.12:35
dandielionousI don't know any of these programs.12:35
cleodandielionous: does it work now?12:35
dandielionoustesting12:35
larsivigstreamer is the thingy that does the real playing, amarok is just a graphical wrapper with some additional organizational goodies12:35
murph2481Voodoo_Vibe - make a CD in linux using K3B and reformat and reinstall windows12:36
dandielionousOMG it's working.12:36
dandielionousI have SOUND!12:36
dandielionouslol12:36
dandielionousty so much12:36
dandielionousI feel myself again!12:36
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cleohehe12:36
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dandielionousSo the trick is install amarok and then gstreamer...12:37
dandielionousI've got to remember this.12:37
larsivior you could fix arTs12:37
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dandielionousI never used windows media player much.  It would start to play and then I couldn't hear anything because it would always stop and buffer.12:38
cleodandielionous: gstreamer is installed by default, you just installed restricted formats support12:38
dandielionousI couldn't use any other players.12:38
cleofor mp3 and stuff12:38
dandielionousOhhhhhhhh I get it.12:38
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C-O-L-Thow can i disable all my iptables?12:38
dandielionousSo now I need to really learn what mp3s are.12:38
dandielionousI can get into the music part of it now.12:38
dandielionousJust like the big kids.12:38
dandielionoushehehehehe12:38
FuSiOn`my q4 won't start :(  I already got past the whole libsdl stuff, now it flies by that I get sound and no video :(12:38
murph2481dandielionous: are you serious about the MP3 comments?12:38
cleoC-O-L-T: flush your rules12:38
FuSiOn`there is nothing in the console that remotely seems to tell me whats wrong12:38
FuSiOn`no errors or anything :\12:39
dandielionousI've never messed with the music part much.12:39
C-O-L-Tcleo: how?12:39
dandielionousI think mp3 is not a wave file but not a cd.12:39
dandielionousBut it's music.12:39
murph2481danldielionous: what do you want to know12:39
cleoC-O-L-T: iptables -F <chain>12:39
murph2481danldielionous: MP3 is just a compression format for typically music12:39
dandielionousWeeeelll do mp3 takes less space on the hard drive?12:39
cleodandielionous: its compressed music, all stuff humans cannot hear are stripped12:39
dandielionousmmmmm understood.12:40
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murph2481danldielionous: it is probably the best/most used compression for music12:40
dandielionousDoes it take less space?12:40
murph2481then what?12:40
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dandielionousAren't mp3 the ibm version of music files for a portable music player?12:40
cleoat least ~10 times fewer than wave files (uncompressed, that stuff you got on an audio cd)12:41
dandielionousLike ipod but for ibm?12:41
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crimsunmp3 is platform-independent12:41
murph2481danldielionous: mp3's are for any platform12:41
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dandielionousIs that what people are loading off the internet?12:41
dandielionousOr downloading?12:41
cleodandielionous: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mp312:41
dandielionousOh ty cleo . ::)12:41
dandielionousSorry to be so slow.12:41
murph2481cleo: how do i get higher resolution settings for my desktop running dapper flight 2?12:41
dandielionousShowing my age.12:42
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murph2481cleo: 1024 is the highest i want to go higher (19 LCD)12:42
crimsunmurph2481: ask the bot about fixres12:42
dandielionousI can't believe I have music playing just like I read about it books.12:42
murph2481!fixres12:42
ubotuPlease read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:42
cleomurph2481: I configured xorg.conf manually...12:42
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dandielionousCan I convert a cd to an mp3 format?12:42
murph2481cleo: thank you :)12:43
cleodandielionous: you should use a free format like ogg vorbis for that12:43
dandielionousOkay great I'm going to read that link.12:43
dandielionousogg vorbis...12:44
Java_the_Huttdandielionous: yes you can, ther are softwares for it like lame12:44
dandielionousI've never heard of that.12:44
dandielionousOkay ty Java_the_Hutt12:44
cleodandielionous: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats12:44
dandielionousI clicked it ty for the link cleo .12:45
dandielionousSince ya'll seem to know what you're doing I have another question.12:45
dandielionousI went to the weather site and clicked on the video but nothing plays videos on my computer.12:45
dandielionousWill amarok do that now?12:45
murph2481cleo: if i manully change xorg.conf and i screw up and am i screwed?12:45
cleotry kaffeine12:45
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dandielionousOkay.12:46
dandielionousWell kaffeine is something else that don't work on here.12:46
larsividandielionous: amarok don't play videos12:46
dandielionousMaybe it will now with the gstreamer.12:46
larsividandielionous: I had to change the backend of kaffeine too12:46
dandielionousDo I need a Java plug in or something?12:46
dandielionousI hear that larsivi .12:46
cleodandielionous: maybe you want to install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse12:46
larsiviI'm using xine for kaffeine12:46
cleodpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:47
cleoerghs12:47
larsiviAnd I had to install some codecs, but I found all I wanted in universe12:47
cleo@ murph2481 :)12:47
dandielionousI installed multiverse.12:47
dandielionousBut I haven't checked for any gstreamer plugins.12:47
dandielionousI'm using synaptic but I notice it doesn't seem to know everything.12:48
larsiviIf I remember correctly, there were some conflicts with some plugins for some of the stuff12:48
dandielionousI had to install gstreamer0.8-mad through my terminal window.12:48
larsiviAnd one of the players worked, but the sound lagged to much12:48
larsivi'think it was gstreamer12:48
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dandielionousI wrote all that down cleo .12:50
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dandielionousI don't seem to be having lag larsivi .12:50
larsivigood for you :)12:50
dandielionousI'm a little scared of messing with something that's actually working.12:50
larsiviCould have been a badly encoded film, it was home made12:51
cleodandielionous: I forgot to mention gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg ...If you installed these 3 packages you should be able to play a lot of formats12:51
dandielionousWell I can't play videos yet.12:51
dandielionousOkay so I should install all of those cleo?12:51
cleoI did12:51
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dandielionouscleo will that mess up my success I'm having at this point?12:52
cleodandielionous: you cannot play windows media video files though :D12:52
larsividandielionous: FYI, it was when watching movies, the sound lagged, not synching with the lips of the actors12:52
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cleodandielionous: no12:52
dandielionousI don't have any windows media files.12:52
dandielionousI'm pure kubuntu.12:53
dandielionousExcept for a little gnome.12:53
dandielionoushehehe12:53
dandielionousI use gaim.12:53
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dandielionousOkay all those commands are apt-get install cleo?12:54
cleodandielionous: yup easiest way imo "apt-get install packet1 packet2 packet3 packetN" ;)12:54
dandielionousYou have to have commas in there?12:54
dandielionousHere I go.12:55
dandielionousGEtting ready to try it.12:55
cleono...but thats all stuff you can try on your own...apt will complain if you do something stupid :D12:55
dandielionousWell I'd rather be told I'm wrong than have my computer messed up.12:56
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toko123still stuck after reset x12:57
cleotoko123: what do you mean with stuck?12:57
toko123please vrify theis syntax konsole --noclose -e bash -c java -version?12:57
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toko123the launcher opens a different version of java then the panel12:58
stefanohey dudes12:58
stefanoi need a program or a script for finding out my cpu-temerature12:59
toko123the panel picks up the env PATH defined in .bashrc12:59
toko123the laucher appers not to use .bashrc for it's PATH env12:59
cleotoko123: sudo update-alternatives --config java  doesn't help you?12:59
stefanoanyone?01:00
toko123cleo, thanks I'll try it01:00
cleostefano: try acpi -V01:00
cleostefano: else take a look on lmsensors01:01
stefanoNo support for device type: thermal01:01
stefanothanks01:01
cleoim off, bye :)01:02
dandielionousOkay I installed everything.01:02
toko123cleo, actually I want to use a different version than is already defined in the alternatives01:02
dandielionousAnd he just left.01:02
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dandielionousOkay amarok is still working.01:04
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Lord_Athurhola a todos01:08
ilba7r!es01:09
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:09
Lord_Athurhi all01:10
Lord_Athurilba7r, it was only a mistake01:10
Lord_Athur:S01:10
ilba7rhi Lord_Athur, :)01:11
Lord_Athur:P01:11
dandielionousWhen I go here: http://www.wlbz.com/ and click on the weather video it don't play.  Do I need a java plug in?01:11
Lord_Athurdandielionous, are you spanish, really?01:12
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dandielionousNo I am not speaking spanish does it look like I am?01:12
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Lord_Athurno, it doesn't01:13
Lord_Athur:P01:13
Acidic32whats the package manager called01:13
Lord_Athurjejeje01:13
Acidic32in ubuntu01:13
brodelsynaptic01:13
dandielionousOh okay scared me for a minute there.01:13
Lord_AthurSypaptic01:13
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brodelkubuntu it's adept01:13
Lord_AthurSynaptic :D01:13
dandielionousDo we have to add java plug in for kubuntu?01:13
Acidic32ok01:13
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brodeldandielionous: yes01:14
Lord_Athurdandielionous, yes01:14
dandielionousty ty appreciate the response.01:14
Lord_Athur:P01:14
dandielionousDo I do that through apt-get?01:14
dandielionousOr synaptic?01:14
brodeldoesn't matter01:14
brodelthey both do the same01:14
dandielionousOkay ty ty again. :)01:14
dandielionousI speak a little spanish Lord_Athur .01:15
dandielionousBut don't tell anyone. :)01:15
slow-motionn801:15
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Lord_Athur:D01:16
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Lord_Athurdandielionous, did you get the plugin?01:17
dandielionousNo I haven't yet.01:17
dandielionousIt's confusing in synaptic.01:17
dandielionousWhat is the command in apt?01:17
Lord_Athurmm01:17
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dandielionousI don't know if I should add everything that comes up in synaptic or not.01:18
Lord_Athurdandielionous, you can download it from my page01:18
dandielionousjava plugin didn't come up.01:18
dandielionousThat's kind but that's a struggle for me too.01:18
dandielionousI need to learn how to do it in my programs that I have.01:18
Lord_Athurdandielionous, you've to download the .so file and paste it in the plug directory01:18
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Lord_Athurit's waht i did01:19
dandielionousI have a bunch of choices in synaptic I think I found the right one.01:20
dandielionousOr I'll just install them all.01:20
dandielionousI have lots of space.01:20
Lord_Athurthen, install all01:20
Lord_Athur:P01:20
dandielionous:)01:20
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kujegerwhat's a good kde ftp program with a gui?01:22
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dandielionousInstalling, installing.01:24
dandielionousdownload rate 273kbs01:26
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brodelkujeger: I have used gftp.. worked fine for what I needed.01:27
rancewhen I start firefox its homepage is set to a local file called "/usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html" and that is missing from my system, what package is it in?01:28
kujegerbrodel: thanks, I'll try it.01:28
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m0ns00nbrothel: thanks, I'll try it.01:28
rancenever mind, I found it01:29
dandielionouslol @ rance01:29
rancedont you just love the adept search01:29
jorikwhats /dev/kmem ?01:29
dandielionousyes rance01:30
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dandielionousI'm using synaptic.01:30
dandielionousI like it better.01:30
ranceoh yea01:30
ranceok01:30
dandielionousI just love kubuntu.01:30
hawkingI have kubuntu and Kde 3.5 and I want to disable my synaptics touchpad.I tried everything with the xorg.conf file but doesn't work... what may be the problem?01:31
rancewell, Ive been around linux for several years, but so far kubuntu is the best distro going, and ive used mandrake/mandriva fedora, centos, slackware, and even gentoo01:31
tictricwhat is everything?01:31
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dandielionoushave you hard of xandros rance?01:32
dandielionousSorry hawking I would help if I could.01:32
m0ns00ntictric: follow the white killer rabbit with big sharp bloody teeth01:32
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ProtectYaNeckshould my internet connection work when using a live cd?01:32
ranceyea, ive heard of it, I think thats the one that is supposed to look much more like Windows, and dont they charge for it?01:32
dandielionousyes ProtectYaNeck01:32
hawkingtictric : I've put Option SHMConfig "true" to xorg.conf and tried to configure usinh synclient but still got Shmconfig disabled? error although I rebooted that didn't change and then I just removed all the lines about synaptics from xorg.conf and it didn't make any change again01:33
_ubuntuhow do i mount hdc1 with access for all in konsole01:33
_ubuntu???01:33
ilba7r_ProtectYaNeck, with ether net yess. with wirless most probably no01:33
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ProtectYaNeckdandielionous, any idea why it doesn't work with the live cd but works in xp?01:33
ProtectYaNeckthis isn't wireless01:33
dandielionousI don't know but I've tried solaris, mandrake, mandrive, knoppix and I like kubuntu best rance.01:33
dandielionousIs it ethernet or wireless ProtectYaNeck ?01:33
ilba7r_ProtectYaNeck, if it is soft modem most probably no either01:33
dandielionousI think ilba7r_  knows more than me ProtectYaNeck .01:34
ProtectYaNeckI have a university dsl connection01:34
_ubuntuhow do i mount hdc1 with access for all in konsole??01:34
ranceI loved knoppix before 4.0, 3.9 was the last one I liked, and I still use it in a pinch to get stuff working, and its my preferred method of installing gentoo01:34
tictrichawking: As far as I can tell, if you remove the configuration for the touchpad from xorg.conf it won't be activated any longer.01:34
dandielionousknoppix got me started on the right path.01:35
ilba7r_ProtectYaNeck, was it autodetected when you ran the livecd and did it ask you to configure it01:35
hawkingtictric : I did that already and it was activated01:35
dandielionousI tried to get lenox going for 3 years.  I downloaded solaris at least 3 times and tried to install.01:35
hawkingI am just confused01:35
ilba7r_ProtectYaNeck, if not than you need to tweek if after installing ubuntu01:35
ProtectYaNeckit didn't ask for configuration01:35
dandielionousLots of researching o the net rance then finally someone told me about Mandrake and that got me going.01:35
dandielionousAnd a friend gave me a knoppix cd.01:35
_ubuntuhow do i mount hdc1 with access for all in konsole??01:36
dandielionousknoppix gave me the first taste rance.01:36
ranceI think I still have a mandrake install book from like mandrake 3 or 401:36
_ubuntuhow do i mount hdc1 with read access for all in konsole?? im on live cd01:36
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dandielionousI have Mandrake 10.1.01:37
dandielionousBut rpms are too hard.01:37
dandielionousI like debians very much. :)01:37
ilba7r_i hated upgrading from one ver to another in mandrive from 10 to 10.1 broke everything here01:38
ProtectYaNeckalso, are there any know problems with kubuntu and sata drives?01:38
ilba7r_!sata01:38
ubotuilba7r_: What?01:38
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ilba7r_mm ProtectYaNeck you should try the forums sorry never needed to install one01:38
dandielionousI know what you mean ilba7r_ .01:38
dandielionousI hope I don't have to do that kind of upgrading with kubuntu.01:39
_ubuntu!mount01:39
ubotu[mount]  the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f01:39
_ubuntu!windowsdrives01:39
ubotu[windowsdrives]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f01:39
ilba7r_dandielionous, upgrading from hoary to breezy was ok. fresh install is better but worked ok. If you do not install a lot of custom drivers you are ok01:39
ranceI almost tried suse, and had debian installed at one time, but I didnt like one thing or another and Id decided that the two things that HAD to work, was a good upgrade and update systems01:39
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l0st1!acroread6401:39
ubotul0st1: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!01:39
brodellol01:40
dandielionousSounds good.  It takes so long to get everything running.  I hate to do a whole fresh install again.01:40
_ubuntuhow do i mount hdc1 with read access for all in konsole?? im on live cd01:40
dandielionousIt's taken me about 3 months since I wiped windows totally off my disk for me to get everything going again.01:41
ilba7r_dandielionous, nevertheless i heared dapper installation wil be harder so better have a seperate partition for your home directory01:41
dandielionousBut that was because I was trying to learn linux at the same time.01:41
l0st1any ideas about acroread install for x64 systems?01:41
dandielionousWhat is dapper?01:41
dandielionousThe newest version of kubuntu?01:42
ilba7r_dandielionous, the new ver of ubuntu01:42
ilba7r_new release01:42
dandielionousGees it doesn't just automatically upgrade?01:42
dandielionouslol @ myself01:42
rancethats part of the reason I havent wanted to do lvm yet, I love the concept, but Ive got 4 partitions /boot, /swap, /, and /home01:42
dandielionousI don't have seperate partitions.01:42
dandielionousMaybe I should.01:43
rancethe reason for the seperate partions is that if something goes wrong during an install your /home folders are all safe01:43
rancecause you are just mounting that and not formatting it01:43
ilba7r_rance but i wil not go so far to have seperate /boot partition01:44
ranceone bad manrake install a couple of years ago taught me that01:44
dandielionousI'm not really saving anything to home folders.01:44
dandielionousI have some things like documents and pictures.01:44
dandielionousBut the rest is effecting the whole system like the java plugins.01:44
dandielionousIf it's anything I really want I usually back up to floppy or cd.01:45
ilba7r_seperate swap and home. home so i do not loose my data. swap so i can run more than one distro if i want to experiment01:45
dandielionousI need a jump drive.01:45
ranceilba7r a seperate boot partition is a trick that I picked up from the gentoo, linux from scratch projects01:45
dandielionousohhhhhh01:45
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mzelemhello, anyone know the command to re-configure x?01:46
rancedandelionous: they are cheap enough01:46
crimsunsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:46
mzelemk, thanks01:46
dandielionousOkay I just installed all the java plugins and still can't run the video.01:46
dandielionousI think I have to do a cold boot.01:46
ilba7r_cimsun wont dpkg -configure work too or is there a diff01:47
dandielionousI'll be back.01:47
ilba7r_!java01:47
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs01:47
rancewhy doesnt kubuntu have the configuration tools that come with Xorg anyway?01:47
crimsunilba7r_: there is a difference. --configure runs postinst01:47
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ilba7r_crimsun does that mean i can not run while x is running01:48
ilba7r_i mean run the command dpkg --configure01:49
crimsunilba7r_: it's generally bad practice to do so, but you're free to do so01:49
ilba7r_crimsun, thanks for the information. I am just learning not jsut standing by an opinion. Thanks again01:50
crimsunnp01:50
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l0st1any ideas about acreread for x64, or i'm stuck with chroot stuff and 32 bit01:53
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ubuntuhow to i alter ownership for a folder??01:56
l0st1chown01:57
l0st1or try man chown01:57
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l0st1!acroread01:58
ubotul0st1: I give up, what is it?01:58
l0st1!pdf01:58
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ubotul0st1: Are you on ritalin?01:58
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ranceI've got a question about configuring apache2, I just installed it, and loaded up http://localhost in my web browser and I get a directory listing with the one directory in /var/www that actually has the apache default index stuff in it, why isnt the site configured correctly?01:59
ubuntulos1: how?? its the folder /mnt/win01:59
ubuntui want read access for all02:00
l0st1is that monted from samba?02:00
ubuntuno konsole02:00
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l0st1edit your fstab02:00
ubuntulost1: im on live cd02:01
l0st1humm well not sure, don't want to break anything you could be doing since your running live cd and not install02:01
ubuntulost1: ok, Thanx anyway02:02
fridgewhat are the stock keybindings for switching virtual desktops in ubtunu kde?02:04
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toko123greetings02:06
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toko123can I use the mplayer essential codecs with xine?02:07
dandielionousOkay my java plugin is working.02:07
dandielionousBut I still can't get the video to play for the weather video.02:07
decOdinghow do I install KDE 3.5 on Kubuntu ?02:07
dandielionousHere is the message I get.02:07
dandielionousxine: cannot find input plugin for MRL [http://www.wtsp.com/includes/buildasx_oas.aspx?fn=http://wm.gannett.speedera.net/wm.gannett/wlbz/2forecast.wmv&sp=mms://wm.gannett.speedera.net/wm.gannett/wlbz/ads/credit_now.wmv] 02:07
dandielionousxine: input plugin cannot open MRL [http://www.wtsp.com/includes/buildasx_oas.aspx?fn=http://wm.gannett.speedera.net/wm.gannett/wlbz/2forecast.wmv&sp=mms://wm.gannett.speedera.net/wm.gannett/wlbz/ads/credit_now.wmv] 02:07
dandielionousinput_http: http status not 2xx: >404 Not Found<02:07
dandielionousxine: found input plugin  : http input plugin02:07
toko123I'm trting to get xine to work on wmv file02:08
dandielionousDoes anyone know what that means/02:08
dandielionous?02:08
decOdingfound02:08
dandielionousxxine: cannot find input plugin for MRL02:08
toko123dandielionous, did you try the mplayer essental codecs?02:09
dandielionousI thought I fixed all those.02:10
dandielionousI'm not really sure.02:10
dandielionousI put gstream0.8 and all the plugins.02:10
dandielionousSo amarok is working now.02:10
dandielionousWhat are essential codecs for mplayer?02:10
toko123hold on02:11
dandielionousI'm just trying to get things working here.02:11
dandielionousI have xine and kaffein.02:11
dandielionousI guess xine is taking over the default.02:11
toko123http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html02:11
dandielionousWhat is that toko?02:12
toko123I'm asking are these codecs wokable in xine as there is no download for mplayer in hte repositories for ubuntu02:13
dandielionousI don't think I want to put mplayer on here.02:13
dandielionousThat's windows isn't it?02:13
toko123I'm tring to view a wmv file all I get is audio so I know it;s a codec problem02:13
dandielionousOkay try this link toko.02:14
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dandielionoushttp://www.wlbz.com/02:14
dandielionousAnd try the weather video.02:14
dandielionousOn the left hand side.02:14
toko123no  I have mplayer on a freebsd and fedora box02:14
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dandielionousSee if it works on yours.02:14
dandielionousStill there toko123 ?02:15
toko123I've got the page what are you trying to see?02:16
dandielionousThe weather video.02:16
dandielionousUnder the weather heading it says: weather video02:16
dandielionousOn the left.02:16
toko123on demand video forecast?02:16
dandielionousyes02:17
dandielionousvideo forecast you're right.02:17
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toko123I get audio only02:18
Spudchathi guys02:18
dandielionousOH ok.02:18
dandielionousSo it's not just me.02:18
Spudchatany ideas on how to encode avi to dvd?02:18
toko123todd somebody02:19
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dandielionousty for checking that toko123 .02:19
dandielionousI wonder how to fix it?02:19
dandielionousAt least you're getting audio.  That's more than I'm getting.02:19
toko123mplayer from source is my guess but I'll load the codecs and se if it makes a difference02:19
dandielionouskk02:20
dandielionousI thought xine or kaffein was supposed to be able to play those things.02:20
FuSiOn`I asked earlier, nobody said anything.  I'll ask again.  Quake 4 AMD64... its not the sdl error, I'm past that, however the game loads straight to a black screen, and I have sound02:20
FuSiOn`its odd02:20
dandielionousIs that a game for linux FuSiOn` ?02:21
FuSiOn`there is a linux binary..02:21
FuSiOn`all the other files I had to copy over.  I have no idea what the problem is, but my monitor goes amber, when it starts02:21
FuSiOn`I've created an autoexec.cfg as well, to make 100% that it starts in a compatible resolution02:22
dandielionousI didn't think we could play windows games in linux.02:22
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FuSiOn`its not a windows game totally02:22
dandielionousoh02:22
FuSiOn`it is, but they released a linux binary02:22
dandielionousI wish Nancy Drew came in linux.02:22
FuSiOn`lol02:22
FuSiOn`I thought wine could do most of that stuff02:23
dandielionousI like Nancy Drew.02:23
FuSiOn`esp games that aren't as hardcore as q402:23
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Ge0Kshi I wanna order the kubuntu, becouse I don't have internet, how I can?02:23
xwolf-you can't02:23
dandielionousI thought you could order some.02:23
Ge0Ksohhh I think that yes becouse The ubuntu can order02:24
xwolf-you can order ubuntu, (with gnome), then you can install kde02:24
FuSiOn`I suppose you're asking us that question from an internet capable cell phone?02:24
FuSiOn`;)02:24
Ge0Ksyasp02:24
Ge0Kshehe02:24
FuSiOn`lol02:24
Ge0Ksbut I really wanna the kubuntu :)02:24
dandielionousGees what a world we live in.02:24
dandielionousDownload it from your cell phone. lol02:24
FuSiOn`ubuntu is kubuntu and vice versa I thought, I think the only difference is gnome/kde02:24
visik7why runlevel tell me unknown ????02:24
xwolf-FuSiOn` you're right02:25
xwolf-BUT, you can only order ubuntu for now02:25
FuSiOn`:>02:25
Ge0Ksbut the program?? what program have the kubuntu??02:25
xwolf-Ge0Ks you can try speaking spanish or portuguese... i can't understand your english very well02:25
Ge0Ksheehhe ok02:26
Tm_T!es02:26
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:26
Ge0Kske programa tiene el kubuntu ke no tenga el ubuntu?02:26
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xwolf-Ge0Ks kubuntu tiene interface KDE, ya ubuntu tiene GNOME02:26
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xwolf-ahora vete a #kubuntu-es02:26
Ge0Ksahh ok estoy ahi02:27
l0st1!chroot02:27
ubotuit has been said that chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457502:27
FuSiOn`ubotu ahaha02:27
ubotuFuSiOn`: Do they come in packets of five?02:27
FuSiOn`.........02:27
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juifweehoo02:48
juifthis is a lot like windows02:49
juifcan i make kubuntu behave like linux ? (text interface ?) from outside of kde ?02:49
juifie: not in a window02:49
hawkingwindows? what is it?02:50
visik7it's only my impression or apt is slower in chroot ?02:50
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ndazzajuif: Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a text-based login prompt, Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to the gui02:58
toko123anyone using xine here?02:58
juifthanks, easy enough.02:59
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toko123how do I get xnie to play .rm or .wmv files?02:59
hawkingdoes anyone know configuring hotkeys of a laptop?02:59
toko123xine opens to all these tv stations and radio staions03:00
toko123nothing works03:00
juifcould it be that internet (www) access is slower than with mozilla on a windows pc ?03:00
juifor is it just set all wrong ?03:00
toko123something as prosaic as media plugins set up wrong?03:01
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juifwhat is my root password ?03:02
juifit never asked my opinion about it03:02
`Nomad411juif: it's slower browsing for me on Kubuntu for some reason, compared to windows03:03
hawkingdoes anyone know configuring hotkeys on laptops? for example my fn+f12 button is written as "completed event "hotkey ATKD 00000030 000000ab" in /var/log/acpid how can i configure it so that it will turn the volume up in kde?03:04
juifcan i install anything made for linux on this ? like, firefox ?03:04
hawkingjuif : what you have is linux03:05
toko123can someone recommend a multiverse mirror for 5.1003:05
`Nomad411juif: firefox is what I was talking about03:05
toko123I'm looking for mplatwre of kmplayer in the repository03:05
toko123right now i have main and universe03:06
toko123repositories03:06
juifoh, okay :)03:06
juifso, wtf is my root password ? :)03:07
juifit never asked me for one, how do i define it ?03:07
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`Nomad411!root03:09
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.03:09
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l0st1is chroot the best option for x64 computers?03:10
fridgeWTF03:11
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fridgel0st1: your question makes no sense to me. it's like asking is mount the best option for powerpc computers?03:13
l0st1i'm asking if there is any other options03:14
`NomadI was worried that it was because regular shells were too fast on x64.. LOL03:14
l0st1that's the only one i know, so well knowing now that is it the only option then i guess i'll have to do it to install 32 bit things03:14
ndazza`Nomad: you mean they're not? damn! i've been chrooting my shells all this time... :p03:15
`Nomadwoooooooooshhh  ..........------  BASH03:15
fridgeyou could run virtualised instances inside xen or something, but I'm not sure what it is you're trying to achieve03:15
l0st1acroread, shockwave, java03:15
l0st1to start with03:15
l0st1since none i can get in x6403:16
fridgeI'm running 32-bit opera & flash plugins03:16
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fridgeon a stock 64-bit kubuntu install03:16
ndazzal0st1: perhaps a x64 distro isn't really necessary...03:16
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l0st1ya maybe,03:17
ndazzai have an amd x64 and i run everything at 32 bit - there's no real performance increase for x6403:17
inc|freakyhi all. im trying to boot from the kubuntu live cd - breezy badger - but it hangs when it tries to load the hotplug subsystem - how can i fix that?03:17
l0st1just breezy 32bit then?03:17
ndazzal0st1: if it's a desktop PC you're looking for, that's what i'd recommend yeah03:18
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inc|freakyits a Amilo M1347G Notebook im trying to boot it on.03:18
l0st1ya might be my easiest option, everyone was just talking ahh linux is so sweet since everything has 64 bit suport, and windows sucks cause it doesn't03:18
l0st1guess everything is messed up in that, other then mac03:19
l0st1well thanks, ndazza, maybe i'll head to 32 bit, since i've been reading as you said, there isn't much of a performance issue03:19
ndazzainc|freaky: google for the bootup options for ubuntu, there'll be a parameter like nohotplug or somethign you can pass to the kernel03:19
inc|freakyoh, what is hotplug for?03:19
inc|freakydo i need hotplug for usb memory sticks?03:20
ndazzal0st1: if you're running a database server then x64 is great... but for desktop it's a PITA :)03:20
ndazzainc|freaky: uh yeah i think so - not sure if it just handles automounting or if it sets up the devices and everything as well03:21
ndazzainc|freaky: i think it might be the latter03:21
l0st1ya i notice on vmware some off keyboard repeat delays, sometimes i can't even type things03:21
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inc|freakyso without hotplug i cant mount my harddrive?03:21
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l0st1something is a bit buggy.. and other odd things on kubuntu6403:21
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ndazzainc|freaky: if it's a USB harddrive, then possibly not :)03:22
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inc|freakyno its no usb harddrive03:22
inc|freakybut i want to be able to stick in my memory stick and save stuff on it03:22
ndazzainc|freaky: you don't need hotplug for internal drives03:22
inc|freakyawkay03:22
inc|freakyill search for the bootoptions now ^^03:23
ndazzainc|freaky: ahh03:23
inc|freakythx a lot :D03:23
ndazzainc|freaky: good luck! :)03:23
inc|freakythx ^^03:23
_taohey, I've got a pb, since I had run windows, when I try to run ubunto I just get a command line ubuntu. how could I get graphical environment ??03:24
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`Nomad_tao: type 'startx' and then press ENTER to see if X will start03:26
`Nomaddid you have it before?03:26
_taono, I'm a beginner with linux03:27
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_taowhy does x doesn't load automaticaly anymore ??03:27
`Nomaddid it before?03:28
_taoyeah03:28
_taobut that's true I had a lot of graphical pbs03:28
`Nomadand then you ran windows?  or installed windows?03:28
_taono no, just ran windows03:28
`NomadMS-windows?03:28
`NomadYour system is a dual-boot?03:29
_taoyeah, I use windows xp and ubuntu03:29
`Nomadso XP was installed first, then ubuntu?03:29
_taoyeah, I knew that pb if I installed ubuntu before windows03:29
`Nomadok, good..03:29
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`Nomadwell, if you are at the linux prompt, I assume that you can boot into either windows, or command-line ubuntu?03:30
`Nomadboth work ok that way?03:30
_taoyeah03:30
`Nomadit's hard to tel lwhy it would suddenly stop from here..  Did you try running the command startx  like I said earlier?  What does it say?03:31
boowanyone have choppy mp3 playback in amarok03:31
_taonope, I'll try it right now03:32
boowanyone have choppy mp3 playback in amarok03:32
boowi install beep media player they play fine in that03:32
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boowhello03:34
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l0st1boow on some mp3's i have the same thing03:35
Steven_MI need some help with konqueror please.03:35
_taowell, I don't understand anything ... now it works like before ... I restarted several time before but it didn't work ...03:35
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boowi did a full upgrade with the backport stuff so that might have broke it so i will reinstall to see if that fixes it03:36
fangoriousdoes konqueror have a feature similar to Firefox's "Open Bookmarks in tabs" feature03:37
Steven_MCan anyone here help me with Konqueror?03:38
l0st1s in what Steven_M ?03:38
fangoriousSteven_M: be more specific03:38
Steven_Mmy flashplugin couses konquror to hang :(03:40
fangoriousSteven_M: have you tried deleting and reinstalling it?03:41
fangorious(the flash plugin)03:41
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nightwatchHi there I need help.03:43
inc|freakyhi, me again. i cant find the bootparameter so kubuntu doesnt try to start the hotplug subsystem. does anyone know where i can get thatinformation, or knows what i have to write at the boot: prompt, when booting from the live cd? (breezy badger)03:43
fangoriousnightwatch: what's the problem?03:44
Steven_Mfangorious: yes03:44
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rance!dpkg03:44
nightwatchI'd like to use kubuntu but I got some doubts, I have a new motherboard witch have some devices that were not deteceted by knoppix/kurumin/kalango I hope ubuntu can fix it. please what kernel version ubuntu uses? and there are any diference between live version and another one?03:45
fangoriousSteven_M: ywhich plugin are you using? (official from macromedia, a packaged copy from a repoy, an open source one, etc)03:45
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ranceok, one more for the worlds most asked question "whats the command to reconfigure X03:45
ClayGanyone here know how to change the MAC on a cable modem?03:46
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ilba7rnightwatch, kernel is 2.6.1003:46
inc|freakyrance: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 i think03:46
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rancesome cable modems dont let you change that, for the ones that do, it will be in the modems advanced setup03:47
ilba7rxorg-server03:47
inc|freakyrance: or xserver-xorg03:47
ilba7roh inc|freaky i think this is the right one what you typed last ya03:47
Steven_Mfangorious: the official one03:47
fangoriousSteven_M: have you tried a newer/older version?03:47
nightwatchI have the MB intel GAVL. the audio system is not deteced as well.. anybody has the same MB? did you get problem?03:48
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ilba7rnightwatch did yo check the supported hardware on the website03:49
ilba7ris it a laptop for i got the link to laptop tested hardware03:49
nightwatch[ilba7r] : not yet, where can i find it?03:49
ilba7rnightwatch, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport03:50
Steven_Mfangorious: I've only mangaged to find version 7 from the flash website03:50
inc|freakygrrr how can i disable the starting of the hotplug subsystem when booting from the live-cd because it keeps hanging there03:50
ilba7rnightwatch, and this is for the newest laptop testing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/03:50
fangoriousSteven_M: is it crashing on every flash app, or just certain ones?03:51
nightwatchand about the live version and standard version, what is the diference, but the obvious, sure.03:51
calidadplease... how I access to kubuntu-es?03:52
sampancalidad  type: /join #kubuntu-es03:53
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fangoriouscalidad: maybe install language-pack-kde-es-base and language-pack-kde-es, then set the system language to spanish03:54
sampanheh -- i thought he meant on irc ;x03:54
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sampanhe or she03:55
calidad#kubuntu-es03:55
Steven_Mfangorious: I've only tried to use the flash comoponent on one particular site (tvnz.co.nz) The website works fine using firefox and the same flash plugins but I really want to access the sites from Konqueror as well. Is there a flash package using apt-get instead of the flash plugin website.03:56
sampansteven_m  have you tried importing the mozilla plugin into konq?  settings --> configure konq --> plugins  -- i don't use flash, so not sure if that would work or not, but it might03:57
nightwatchthe live version of kubuntu use the knoppix structure?03:57
fangoriousSteven_M: I'm pretty sure there's an open source plugin somewhere, but probably not in the default repos. I don't think I had to manually import my firefox plugins, but you look at that (sampan's comment)03:58
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ilba7rSteven_M, which firefox ver you are using03:59
ilba7r!flash03:59
uboturumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats04:00
visik7where can I find debian/ for kopete package ?04:00
nightwatchplease, what the difference between live version and standard? (th live uses knoppix kernel?, )04:01
ilba7rvisik7, kopete i in the reops i think it is installed by default. sudo apt-get install kopete04:01
fangoriousnightwatch: live is a read-only bootable CD or DVD, to try it out without installing, or repair an existing, unbootable install04:01
visik7yes but I'm compiling dev-0.12 'couse 0.11 is buggy04:01
Steven_Mfangorious: I went to configure konqueror > plugins and then clicked on the scan button to scan for plugins in the .mozilla folder, is that considered importing?04:02
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fangoriousSteven_M: yep, in the plugins tab next to the scan tab, is libflashpayer listed?04:02
nightwatchfangorious that's I know.. I have used a knoppix version for a long time, everytime I try to install, due to use knoppix packages the OS becomes too much instable04:02
Steven_Milba7r: I am using firefox 1.0.704:03
ilba7rvisik7, i can not understand what you are doing. do you need the new deb for kopete or are you compiling from source04:03
Steven_Mfangorious: yes04:03
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visik7ilba7r: I'm compiling from source but I would make a package04:03
ilba7rSteven_M, than follow ubotu link. i think the package name is mozilla restricted04:03
fangoriousnightwatch: I don't understand. do you mean you install kubuntu, then boot a knoppix cd and install packages off that?04:03
ilba7r!flash04:03
ubotu[restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats04:03
nightwatchI want ot install ubunto, of course whereas both version are the same, at all, I will choose the live for testing04:03
Steven_Mfangorious: The flash application does load but then konqueror hangs after that04:04
ilba7rsorry Steven_M they changed the name of the old package i am using now. flash restricted or something like that04:04
fangoriousSteven_M: have a look at the link ubotu just posted. i can view that site you mentioned. i have kde 3.5 from kubuntu.org, not sure what flashplayer i have, probably the latest04:04
ilba7rvisik7, checkinstall will install a deb package for you. instead of make install use checkinstall. you need to install it first on your sys04:04
nightwatchfangorious no. I want to know if the live version of kubunto uses anything from knoppix, becouse I hate knoppix. I have had bad experiences with it before.04:05
visik7ilba7r: dirty solution04:05
fangoriousnightwatch: not that i'm aware of (i hat knoppix too)04:05
ilba7rvisik7, i now but only solution i have so far04:05
visik7I would make a real package with dependancies and other stuff04:05
fangoriousnightwatch: the live CD should be identical to the standard images, except for the whole read-only bootable cd that you don't install with04:05
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visik7not a just a tar.gz named .deb04:06
fangoriousvisik7: what's wrong with just dumping it in /opt?04:06
nightwatchfangorious thats it what I want to know. I cannot install it.04:06
Steven_Milba7r: what line do I need to put in my sources.list file to get that package? (I  haven't noticed any  flash packages in the default repositories but I could be wrong)04:06
nightwatchthen I have to donwload both versions04:06
visik7fangorious: that it's not a clean solution04:07
ilba7r!repos04:07
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fangoriousvisik7: sure it is, it doesn't overwrite any system files and doesn't create any local/obsolete nuisances in apt04:08
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fangoriousnightwatch: yeah, i was surprised to find out you can't install from the live dvd image04:09
visik7fangorious: I want to make a package for ubuntu and use in my pkg db and when a newer version will come out it will be upgraded04:09
nightwatchfangorious that's not so bad thing ... due it doesnt use knoppix :P04:10
fangoriousvisik7: not trying to convince you otherwise, was just curious04:10
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Steven_Milba7r: how do I search for the mozilla restricted package using apt-get in the command line? I am not used to pure apt-get, I usually use aptitude?04:12
ilba7rsudo aptitude search04:13
ilba7rSteven_M, i too do not use apt-get at all only aptitude04:13
fangoriousSteven_M: apt-cache search <keyword>04:13
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ilba7rSteven_M, the package is sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree04:16
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ilba7ri think it has a shell that will download and install from macromed website04:17
fangoriousilba7r: that sounds right04:17
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nightwatchthere is a brazilian version of kubuntu? can I choose this language during instalation?04:24
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visik7ok kaffeine doesn't play wmv even if codecs are installed in /usr/lib/win3204:27
visik7it says:04:27
visik7deb http://www.tux.org/pub/java/debian/ sid non-free04:28
visik7ops04:28
visik7:)04:28
visik7** Message: don't know how to handle audio/x-wma, wmaversion=(int)2, bitrate=(int)8000, rate=(int)8000, channels=(int)1, block_align=(int)64, codec_data=(buffer)0022000000000000000004:28
visik7** Message: don't know how to handle video/x-msmpeg, msmpegversion=(int)43, framerate=(double)25, width=(int)176, height=(int)14404:28
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Voodoo_VibeHow do i install java for konquerer??04:32
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steven_jmilba7r: it is steven_m here, did my thanks message come through? I may have accidentally cut myself off from the net. Anyway thankyou for your help today04:35
ilba7rsteven_jm, you are more than welcomed. no did not come through earlier. :)04:36
steven_jmilba7r:  please pass on my thanks to fangorious too if you talk to him soon.04:37
ilba7rsteven_jm, for sure if i saw him.04:37
Voodoo_Vibecan i install java from apt-get??04:37
ilba7rVoodoo_Vibe, yap if you have the repos for it04:38
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ilba7r!reps04:38
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, ilba7r04:38
ilba7r!repos04:38
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Voodoo_Vibeilba7r: so what is the easiest way to get it??? on konquerer04:38
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ilba7rVoodoo_Vibe, mm i always had prob with it and konq. I used to run it with firefox04:39
visik7someone able to see wmv an listen to  wma in kaffeine ?04:39
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bur[n] ervisik7: get w32codecs04:39
ilba7rVoodoo_Vibe, but basiclally you install the mozilla-plugin and use konquer to scan for new plugins04:39
visik7bur[n] er: w32codecs are installed04:40
visik7but I  got the messages above04:40
Voodoo_Vibeilba7r: ohhh ok thanx!04:40
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bur[n] ervisik7: kaffeine-xine ?04:40
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visik7installed04:40
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visik7but dunno how to set it04:40
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visik7it stay on gstreamer04:40
bur[n] eruhh... apt-get install totem-xine ;)04:41
visik7no I don't want to use totem04:41
bur[n] erto be honest, I use totem still... and i odn't have any .wma .wmv to test kaffeine :\04:41
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visik7if I want an external player I'll use mplayer xine or vlc alone04:41
ilba7rvisik7 re install re configure kaffiene if you installed the codecs after it04:42
visik7ok works04:42
visik7with xine04:42
visik7gstramer doesn't support wmv at all ?04:42
ilba7ri remember it search for the codecs during the first installation step and not after that04:42
visik7ilba7r: ok now works04:43
visik7using xine backend04:43
ilba7rok04:44
visik7btw afais gstreamer doesn't support wmv ( 0.8)04:44
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Voodoo_Vibeilba7r: how do i install java for firefox?? i got an message like press here to get java but nothing happens04:46
_taoI've got a display pb, I can use ubuntu correctly but after a few time some grey or pink zones appears on the screen. Do u know what I could do ??04:46
ilba7r!java04:47
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs04:47
ilba7rVoodoo_Vibe, follow ubotu link04:47
Voodoo_Vibeilba7r: thanx!04:47
_taois anyone could help me pls ??04:50
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kkathman_tao whats wrong?04:57
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_taoI said it before, I have display pbs04:59
_taoafter running correctly, suddenly the display becomes weird05:00
boowevery thing smooth accept choppy mp3 playback in amarok05:00
_taowith pink or grey or any color zones on the screen05:00
kkathman_tao that sound like either a bad driver (if you installed one) or possibly a resolution issue05:01
kkathman_tao how long is it "stable" before it begins to go bad?05:01
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_taowell I didn't installed the driver (I wanted but I couldn't)05:02
_taoit's not a matter of time, right now I'm using my laptop, and my desktop (the one with ubuntu) is still running fine is some time05:03
_tao"since some time"05:03
kkathman_tao is it ok for hours at a time, or minutes?05:03
_taowell I even could say hours05:03
_taoif I don't use it05:04
_taoin fact, it happens when I scroll up or down windows05:04
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_taoand I had that same pb when I had mandriva05:04
juifwhooo even with this GUI can i install software ? not i !05:05
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juifdude, ok, i download firefox, its in a .tar.gz file, i uncompress it to a folder, click on the executables in there, nothing happens05:05
juifhow does one install software ?05:05
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ilba7rjuif if you downloaded firefox 1.5 from their websit just click on the firefox SH file05:07
ilba7rit  will run it for you05:07
kkathman_tao this sounds like a problem with your video card if you had probs with mandriva also05:07
kkathman_tao you could try to reconfigure x I suppose05:07
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_taoI did it05:07
kkathman_tao  you did a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?05:08
_taoyeah05:08
kkathman_tao how about experienting with the resolutions and refresh rates05:08
_taowell I have a lcd screen so I set it at 1280*1024@75hz05:09
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kkathman_tao have you tried other resolutions that dont use a 4:3 aspect?05:10
_taono I didn't, but I'd rather stay at 1280*102405:11
kkathman_tao  I understand, but I do know some people have reported that their hardware seems to be stable at different aspect ratios other than 4:305:12
_taoin fact I think I can do everything excepted internet05:12
juiftheres no sh file in there, maybe i should download again, or something05:13
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juifcannot execute ./bash - bin -  it says05:15
_taoyep, after running fine for some time, I tried to go on internet and bam I had that display pb05:15
_taobut I just have to exit my session to find back a good display05:16
kkathman_tao does that monitor work with other computers?05:17
_taoyeah, I have it since more than a year and it works fine with windows05:18
kavitthe new ATI driver does give a fair performance improvement.05:19
kavitthe only problem is that the dual head doesnt seem to be working properly with kde05:19
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joshisscifihey everybody06:05
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dandielionoushello06:07
dandielionousWell I got xine to work and totem movie player but I still can't get a link to play a video when I click on it.06:07
joshisscifiwhats the best way to go about getting java up and going for programming purposes in kubuntu?06:08
dandielionousDo I need realplayer or is there a way for kubuntu to do it.06:08
dandielionousHey I got java working.06:08
dandielionouslol06:08
dandielionousAt least the plug in.06:08
dandielionousI'm sorry joshisscifi I'm really new and can't really help you with that.06:09
joshisscifiits all good06:09
dandielionousI'm trying to figure out if I need to install realplayer.06:10
dandielionousSo if I click on a link that has a video it will play it.06:10
joshisscifiprobably, or a real alternative codec06:10
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dandielionousSee look how much you know. :)06:10
dandielionousI installed everything java related I could find in synaptic and got the java plug in working.06:11
dandielionousIt also installed the java console.06:11
dandielionousIf that helps you any.06:11
dandielionousI had to set my preferences also in my browser.06:11
joshisscifihmm.... k06:12
dandielionousI don't know if that's what you want to know or not.06:12
dandielionousI do know I have streaming video working for the first time in my life and it's really kewl.06:13
dandielionous:)06:13
dandielionousNice jazz playing from shoutcast.06:13
joshisscificool06:13
dandielionousJust like I always heard people could do.06:13
dandielionousFirst time it's ever worked for me.06:13
dandielionousI never did get it to work right in windows.06:13
dandielionousWell I guess I'm off to try and figure out how to install real player.06:14
joshisscifialrighty06:14
joshisscifigoogle is master lol06:14
dandielionousThen my machine should be set up pretty well for a while.06:14
dandielionouslol I hear that.06:14
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burepe2Can someone look at the contents of this .patch file and tell me what file I am supposed to apply it to. It seems like there is the name of the file at the top, but there is another one half way down. I am confused. Here is the contents of the file http://pastebin.com/49598906:19
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juifi get the feeling there lots of packages i should be installing before i think of using any software, any hints ?06:20
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_alanhello06:22
kleptyhola06:22
_alanis anyone up for a dumb question?06:22
kleptysomeone please show me how to find where things are installed after an apt-get install?06:23
murph2481klepty: what did you install?06:23
kleptynothing in particular but when i look for the binary to run sometimes i can't find them06:23
murph2481klepty: usually it is added to the menu, but if not search for the package name in the search off the menu06:24
_alanif I have an AMD-6d4 motherboard is it okay to istall the 1386 ubuntu iso? i was having trouble swith amd so i reverted back06:24
murph2481usually the binary's are in /etc/06:25
kleptyahh i figured that there was some flag that would show it06:25
murph2481adept or synaptic can tell you if the package was installed06:25
murph2481short of that i believe you are stuck with searching :)06:25
_alanAMD 6406:25
joshisscifi_alan: yes it will work06:26
_alani read in some postings not to install amd 64 unless i had a specific reaon too06:27
kleptytrue.. i have kubuntu running on a 64bit laptop and i am running the 386 vers06:28
kleptyworks perfectly06:28
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juifi cant install any software , i get all kinds of errors, i was trying to install mozilla or just firefox, nothing wants to install. wtf ?06:50
mr-russjuif: use pastebin to paste the errors.06:51
juifis kubuntu missing some libraries, or all libraries or something ? :) seems to not even play mp3s :) even tho it recognises it06:51
juifwell, its not giving me any errors when i click on them from the GUI06:51
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mr-russyes, because mp3's are patented and you need a license to use them.06:51
_alanhow do you open konqueror in super-user mode?06:52
juifbut it says stuff about permissions, in the text interface06:52
mr-russso enable multiverse repository and installl the mp3 addon's there.06:52
mr-russjuif: "stuff"??06:52
juifmultiverse repository ? what is that and how do i enable it ?06:52
_alani cant find super-user file browser in ubuntu06:52
juifyes stuff, sorry, i didnt cut and paste that was a moment ago06:53
mr-russ_alan: I don't know, run kdesu konquorer06:53
juifi havent been able to run any programs that didnt come with kubuntu06:53
mr-russjuif: okay, that's the problem.  What do you actually want to do?06:54
Calilasseiajuif, you having problems with Breezy updates?06:54
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juifwell, i just wanted to do things, like install software. i download .tar.gz files, unpack them to directories, click on the executable files, nothing happens06:54
_alanthank you06:55
juifwhen i go into the text interface, it says permission denied and other various errors06:55
mr-russsudo apt-get install "software"06:55
sampanjuif, you should use adept (or aptitude or apt-get) to install software from the repositories06:55
juifor just logs me out06:55
mr-russand that gives you permission denied, or are you using adept to install software?06:55
juifthe repositories ? what are those ?06:56
sampan!repositories06:56
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource06:56
_alanar russ that was a 2 year problem fixed thanks06:56
juifsudo apt-get install "software" i will try it, i hadnt tried that06:56
sampanjuif, they are collections of packages that ubuntu has read for download and automatic installation via adept/aptitude/apt-get06:56
sampanall pre-compiled and ready to go06:56
sampanread = ready06:57
juifok06:57
juifi will go try that now06:57
CalilasseiaHowever, Juif, to use the repositories, you will have to edit a file - apt-sources I think it's called ...06:57
CalilasseiaAnd add the names of the new repositories to the list in that text file ...06:58
mr-russjuif: are you new to linux, or just ubuntu?06:58
sampanjuif, read ubotu's link about enabling the universe/multiverse repositories -- they contain many of the most common packages.  the file that tells kubuntu where (which repos) to download from is: /etc/apt/sources.list06:58
CalilasseiaThat's the file I was looking for ... /etc/apt/sources.list ... thanks for the memory jog ....06:59
CalilasseiaYou have to edit that file ... you will need root permissions though ...06:59
sampanit's a simple text file that you can edit several ways: (a) within adept (package manager application), (b) sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list or (c) kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list07:00
juifi am new to all *nix07:00
mr-russjuif: okay.07:00
CalilasseiaJuif, one fundamental rule to learn is this ... ANY changes to the system generally require what are called "super user" permissions ...07:00
CalilasseiaThis is to stop malicious outsiders from messing with your installation among other things ...07:01
CalilasseiaTo run various applications with those permissions in KDE, you select "Run" from the menu, then type "kdesu" followed by the name of the application ...07:01
CalilasseiaIt will then ask you for your password ...07:02
CalilasseiaOnce you've supplied your password, you can then make changes to the system ...07:02
CalilasseiaSo for example, to run Kate with super user permissions so that you can edit the sources.list file, you type "kdesu kate"07:03
CalilasseiaThen you can use Kate to edit the files you want ...07:03
CalilasseiaProvided of course that they are text files!07:03
juifokay.. and whats with this sudo thing ?07:04
mr-russCalilasseia: I'd suggest he use adept and edit sources.list from there.07:04
CalilasseiaAh ...07:04
mr-russjuif: it's like run as administrator on windows.07:04
Calilasseia"sudo" is used in the text interface to perform the same job ...07:04
mr-russsudo "S"uper"U"ser "DO"07:04
juifok07:05
juifcool07:05
sampansudo = superuser do ... it executes a command as "superuser".  generally you shouldn't start GUI apps with "sudo" b/c it can mess up config files for that app.  if you're gonna run a GUI app as superuser use: kdesu07:05
CalilasseiaTo run a command with super user permissions, you type, for example, "sudo gedit"07:05
joshisscifialright, is there a definitive reason to upgrade to kde 3.5?07:05
Calilasseia"sudo" is for the command line interface and shell commands, while "kdesu" is for KDE applications ...07:05
mr-russjoshisscifi: depend who you are, I would say not.  wait for dapper it's not that imperative.07:06
CalilasseiaBut they do the same job - give you super user permissions ...07:06
sampanjoshisscifi  only if you want the latest/greatest ... there's no pressing reason to do so if you're happy with 3.4.307:06
ndazzajoshisscifi: it's newer... :P07:06
joshisscifilol alrighty07:06
mr-russjoshisscifi: unless you want one of the fancy new features like acl support.07:06
joshisscifiwell at the moment the only thing I need to do is get BlueJ up and running07:06
ndazzait has acl support?? <opens konqueror>07:06
juifahh for kde super user07:06
CalilasseiaOnly thing is Juif, be careful what you do and what files you tinker with when you have super user permissions!07:07
juifok, i'll try. but im pretty sure ill have to re-install before the month is over :)07:07
mr-russndazza: it is supposed to, so if you right click file permissions, you should get a fancy interface.07:07
CalilasseiaFor example, I wouldn't edit the mount list for your system's drives unless you REALLY know what you're doing ...07:07
ndazzayeah i see it, that's cool07:08
CalilasseiaThat's a good way of unhinging the system ...07:08
mr-russthe thing that's impossible to recover from is an rm -fr / as root07:08
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sampanexcept in an irc window ;x07:09
joshisscifianyone have an idea about this:07:09
joshisscifi** ERROR **: file ../../../src/libjava/jni/gtk-peer/gnu_java_awt_peer_gtk_GtkImage.c: line 572 (createRawData): assertion failed: (data_fid != 0)07:09
ndazzajoshisscifi: i'd say you're trying to compile something...07:09
ndazzaoh wait it's a failed assertion07:09
CalilasseiaOh ABSOLUTELY NEVER type that in a unix terminal window as root ... (argh) ..07:09
ndazzaprogrammer error07:09
juifwhats the deal with 'compiling' programs ?07:09
juifi dont seem to get it07:10
joshisscifihmm07:10
CalilasseiaJuif, here's an explanation ...07:10
mr-russjuif: instead of getting a program you can run, you get files you can read to change a program.07:10
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mr-russjuif: you have to compile it so people can run it.07:10
CalilasseiaA lot of Linux applications are supplied as source code that you can edit and customise ...07:10
joshisscifiguess I better try to find a binary install07:10
CalilasseiaBut you have to pass that source code (usually C or a similar language) to a compiler and create an executable file ....07:11
mr-russI'm hitting a big learning curve attempting to make debian/ubuntu packages when I've used ubuntu for a week, and never used debian :(07:11
juifhow does one compile those files ? can someone just download software x, stick source code y in it, and end up with working software z ?07:11
CalilasseiaWhich assumes you know also how to program in C or C++ ... if you don't know about C or C++ programming you've a LOT to learn!07:11
juifoh07:12
juifhahah07:12
mr-russjuif: that's the basic explanation.07:12
juifso i should stay away from source code compiling ?07:12
mr-russjuif: but ubuntu compiles everything for you, so you install software and can use it straight away.07:12
sampanjuif, if you're new to *nix, you probably have no need to mess with compiling for awhile.  the repos have all the packages you're likely to need ;)07:12
CalilasseiaIf you want to install software, you need access to pre-compiled binary executable files ....07:12
mr-russadept lets you install programs you can run.07:12
juifok07:12
CalilasseiaThe repositories and apt-get give you access to lots of programs pre-compiled and ready to run on Kubuntu ...07:13
joshisscifihow do I remove the java sdk etc that I installed through adept fully?07:13
juifsounds fine for me, i'll look around the available things07:13
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mr-russjuif: adept will give you 17000+ things :)07:13
mr-russK -> System -> Package Manager (Adept)07:14
CalilasseiaQuick question Juif - do you know the distinction between source code and an executable? This is a pretty crucial piece of knowledge here ...07:14
juifexecutable you can run. source code is code, you cant run, you need to make an executable out of it.07:14
CalilasseiaOK, that's fine for now ...07:15
CalilasseiaThe beauty of having source code of course, Juif, is that if you DO know how to program in C etc., you can modify the source ...07:15
CalilasseiaAnd create your own customised version of the program ...07:15
juifbut07:16
juifif you dont know C, can you compile as is07:16
juifand run it ?07:16
juifas is ?07:16
CalilasseiaThere exists a C compiler that comes with the system ... I believe the old "cc" compiler is still available ....07:16
mr-russgcc ?07:17
CalilasseiaAh, of course - gcc is a better one :)07:17
CalilasseiaIt's a bit more modern and it's under the GNU licence :)07:17
CalilasseiaWhat you have to do with source code, Juif, is determine which language it's written in ...07:18
juifok07:18
CalilasseiaIf it's C, then you have to pass the source code to the C compiler to create your executable ...07:18
juifok07:18
CalilasseiaHowever, if your source code is a Perl script, you pass that instead to the Perl interpreter, which runs it for you ...07:18
juifand thats it ?07:19
CalilasseiaNot quite ... to find out how to use the C compiler you need the manual page ...07:19
CalilasseiaIn a terminal or shell window, type "man gcc" and read the HUGE amount of text that the manual spits out!07:19
juifhaha, ok07:20
CalilasseiaOh, that's another beauty of the system  - the "man" command gives you manual pages for all the system commands etc ...07:20
juifwhere do i type !repositories ? i tried it in the text interface and it did nothing07:20
CalilasseiaThe repositories have to be added to a special text file containing a list of these entities ...07:20
sampanjuif, easiest way of enabling the repositories is to run Adept (on kmenu)07:20
juifi am looking around the Adept menu right now07:21
sampanit's the package manager application.  run it. it will ask for your password.07:21
sampanthen at the top, there's a menubar -- under the Adept tab there will be (in drop down menu) "manage repositories"07:21
sampanclick it07:21
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juifok07:22
CalilasseiaAh, this must be one of the Breezy improvements ... it wasn't in Hoary ...07:22
juifgives me a list07:22
CalilasseiaOr at least I never found it :)07:22
sampanyou'll see a list, mostly greyed out.  all the lines that have "universe" or "multiverse" on them, right-click and select "enable"07:22
juifof servers07:22
ndazzaCalilasseia: i think you're confusing things a little - for an end user the standard ./configure; make; make install will usually work!07:22
sampanjuif, oh and the first line or second should be the "cdrom" -- DISABLE that07:23
ndazzaif you have a broadband internet connection...07:23
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juifno cd  rom in there07:23
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sampantop line isn't "Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger..." ?   hrmmmm -- well if it's not there, then don't worry about it :)07:24
CalilasseiaNdazza, in the past I've had all the fun of mending broken makefiles ... :)07:24
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CalilasseiaSometimes I gave up and compiled things the hard way :)07:24
juifyes it is07:25
juifbreezy badger, etc.. should i disable that ?07:25
sampanjuif, yes -- disable it ... otherwise it will ask you to insert the cd everytime you try to update your package list07:25
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_dadany Kaffeine xperts around07:26
_dadI keep getting GStreamer could not initlize07:26
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juifand all those repositories will appear in my adept menu now ?07:26
sampanjuif, when you're done enabling the universe/multiverse ... then click "apply" at the bottom or "commit changes" at the top. then click "fetch updates" at the top07:26
ndazzaCalilasseia: usually it's just missing dependencies - try compiling OOo without make! :p07:27
CalilasseiaNdazza, I'd rather not!! :)07:27
joshisscifican anybody recommend a good java ide?07:27
joshisscifieclipse just doesn't do it for me07:27
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sampanjuif, and your system will now fetch a whole bunch of lists from the repositories of packages that you can install07:27
CalilasseiaJosh, I'd avoid Netbeans like the plague ...07:28
ndazzajoshisscifi: i prefer vim :)07:28
joshisscifindazza: will vim highlight and color?07:28
joshisscifiI'm actually learning java this semester, and we're supposed to use BlueJ, but it won't install on here atm07:28
CalilasseiaI installed that with the Java 2SE download from Sun and it was a total crock ...07:28
_alanlame problem #420 i cant seem to install firefox ... it was fine i unistalled it and deleteded its folders, reinstalled it and and apt-get installed firefox , but it wont open07:28
juifyeah, this is great07:29
ndazzajoshisscifi: yes07:29
juiftheres tons of software in that list07:29
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sampanjuif, now, enjoy browsing the 17,000 or so packages! ;D07:29
joshisscifindazza: k, have you checked out Jbuilder or jedit?07:29
_alani uninstalled firefox because it wouldnt open just tried and tried then dissapeared07:29
CalilasseiaOh and Juif, one recommendation I can give ... find a good general Linux textbook in your bookstore, and take it home and digest thoroughly ...07:30
ndazzajoshisscifi: not that i recall - if i'm using a gui editor i tend to use kate, that has syntax highlighting and some other goodies07:30
joshisscifindazza: lemme adept that07:30
ndazzajoshisscifi: oh and for a nice cross-platform one try jgrasp07:30
ndazzajoshisscifi: if you have kubuntu installed you will already have it07:30
ndazzajoshisscifi: just alt+f2 -> kate07:30
joshisscifiwell looky there07:31
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sampanhey kkathman :)07:31
joshisscifiit says upgradeable in adept, might as well take care of that07:31
kkathmanhey sampan ;)07:31
juifyes, i plan on that, its a fascinating phenomenon07:31
juiffree beer for all07:31
CalilasseiaOh, and while on the subject of Java IDEs ...07:32
_dadanyone know why I am getting a GStreamer error??????????????07:32
sampan_dad, because something isn't working right?07:32
_dadhehe07:32
CalilasseiaI need one that I can run on both a Linux system and a (dreaded) Wintel box ...07:32
ndazza_dad: what app are you trying to run?07:32
joshisscifihmm, lemme test out the dvd playing07:32
ndazzaCalilasseia: see the aforementioned JGrasp07:32
_dadKaffeine is giving me an failor on the GStreamer07:33
CalilasseiaJGrasp ... that will run on Kubuntu sure ... you just said it comes with Kubuntu ...07:33
ndazza_dad: kaffeine is horrible in my opinion :) try xine07:33
CalilasseiaBut is there a Wintel port as well ???07:33
_dadK07:33
ndazzaCalilasseia: nope, sorry that was my fault - kate comes with kubuntu07:34
joshisscifiKaffeine: Cannot read info for dvd07:34
sampanyou can even try the xine engine for kaffeine (kaffeine-xine)07:34
joshisscifiboo07:34
joshisscifiguess I gotta install gstreamer?07:34
CalilasseiaTrouble is I need a Jav IDE that works on both ...07:34
dandielionousI finally have my music working in totem.07:34
ndazzaCalilasseia: yes, it's written in java and can compile and run on both platforms07:34
CalilasseiaNetbeans was suppsed to deliver the goods because it was allegedly written in Java ... but when I tried using Netbeans, it fell on its face ...07:34
dandielionousI tried installing real player to links that have video popups but it don't work.07:35
dandielionousMessed up my totem.07:35
joshisscifiwtf07:35
joshisscifigstreamer0.8-dvd installed07:35
ndazzaCalilasseia: i have had netbeans running successfully on linux before, and at my old uni it was running on an old Sun box07:35
joshisscifiyet.... kaffeine won't open my dvd?07:35
ndazzaCalilasseia: but jgrasp is nowhere near as heavyweight, it's more likely to succeed07:35
ndazzajoshisscifi: it is probably encrypted - that's a whole new can of worms!07:36
CalilasseiaRight ... so do a google search on JGrasp for my Wintel box, and use Adept to update it on my Kubuntu system ...07:36
ndazza!dvd07:36
joshisscifiugh.... time for me to learn how to play encrypted again07:36
ndazza!tell joshisscifi about dvd07:36
joshisscifiaha!07:37
ndazzaCalilasseia: uhm, not sure if it's packaged in kubuntu actually07:37
ndazzaCalilasseia: when i installed it i ended up compiling it07:37
CalilasseiaArgh ....07:37
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ndazzaCalilasseia: actually maybe i didn't - i think it's distributed as java bytecode, so if you have sun's J2RE installed it will just work07:38
CalilasseiaChecking the home page now ...07:38
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CalilasseiaYup, got the full J2SE development kit installed ... that should be fine ...07:39
ndazzayeah that'll do it07:40
ndazzait might even run under kaffe07:40
CalilasseiaSays there's a self-extracting exe for Wintel, and a generic ZIP version for assorted Linux distros ...07:40
joshisscifiI forgot how to change runlevels so I can install my nvidia drivers07:40
ndazzajoshisscifi: uh it might be sudo telinit 207:41
joshisscifik07:41
ndazzajoshisscifi: but that will kill all your gui apps (if it works)07:41
_dadNdazza!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!07:41
joshisscifindazza: yeah its supposed to in order to install the drivers07:41
_dadTHANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!07:42
sampanjoshisscifi  are you trying to install the absolute latest nvidia drivers?07:42
_dadI here my MP#'s07:42
_dadYEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH07:42
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ndazza_dad: no worries... - for mp3s try amarok though07:42
_dadAmarok crashes too07:42
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joshisscifisampan: I will be in a moment yes07:43
ndazza_dad: okay, xmms then :)07:43
sampank, just asking b/c the repos have the 7667s all .debbed up07:43
ndazza_dad: those apps are better suited to managing music collections07:43
_dadxmms not loaed yet07:43
joshisscifihmm, I'll check those07:43
_dadcool07:43
CalilasseiaJust checked the JGrasp homepage ... apparently NASA had a hand in ideveloping it ...07:43
CalilasseiaIn which case it should work :)07:44
joshisscifisure if you don't have to convert meters to feet07:44
joshisscifilol07:44
ndazzaCalilasseia: either that or you need to be a rocket scientist to get it working :)07:44
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juifthe programs that you enable in adept07:45
juifdo they require reboots ?07:45
ndazzajuif: nope07:46
Khris_dxHow do I get rid of the annoying bubbles when I hover mouse over K menu?07:46
CalilasseiaRight, I'm off to browse JGrasp & see if it'l deliver the goods ... thanks NDazza :)07:46
CalilasseiaBye everyone ...07:46
sampankhris_dx  iirc, you need to turn off mouse-over effects in system settings (desktop? appearance? something like that)07:46
juifi enabled a couple mp3 codecs and still cant play any07:47
ndazzajuif: what app are you using to play them?07:47
juifi tried amarok and kaffeine07:48
juifwhat is kfile ?07:48
sampanjuif, you should probably read and follow the restricted formats wiki (link from ubotu in a moment)07:48
sampan!restrictedformats07:48
ubotumethinks restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats07:48
ndazzajuif: no idea - but install xmms and you should be right i think07:49
juifoh, the text, ok, ill read that07:49
ndazzathere's a package you have to install to get mp3 support in kde - anyone remember what it is?07:49
ndazzasomething about libmad07:49
sampani always forget the multimedia packages i had to install -- which is why i just point people to the wiki ;x07:50
sampanit was a whole bunch of alphabet soup -- can't ever remember the names07:50
joshisscifiwoot07:50
joshisscifidvd playing :)07:50
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ranceI need some advice, Ive got a programming project to do and it needs to log in to an email address, check the messages, for each it needs to parse the messages looking for those that contain a proper format for a database insert statement.  I know how to do this in php, but kubuntu's php implementation doesnt include the imap/pop3 options.  Im hesitant to build php myself since it could break the dependency on other packages, so i07:59
rance I do, will that get me where I need to go, or is there a php package that adds the imap-pop3 functions to php like the php-mysql packages do?07:59
_dadnsazza...... Xine and Xmms working great... Kaffeene (crap) is gone...Thanks dued08:00
Khris_dx<sampan>: Thanks, found it under Panel => Appearance08:00
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CyberMadhow could i run as root without using sudo in console, root@host:~# ?08:05
ndazzasudo -s08:05
sampankhris_dx  :) glad you found it08:06
joshisscifibrb, nvidia time08:06
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ndazzarance: there's php[345] -imap packages08:08
CyberMadow thank you08:09
ranceok, thanks, I just found the libpop python library as well08:10
ndazzagood luck with ur project :)08:11
rancendazza, thanks, hey I just checked adept, and filtered for php and I cant find a php-imap package, is there someting I need to do to have adept look somewhere else, this is MOSTLY a default kubuntu install with a couple of configuration changes for my hardware08:13
ndazzarance: it might be in the universe or multiverse repositories, have you set those up?08:13
ranceno08:13
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ndazza!tell rance about repositiories08:14
ndazza!tell rance about repositiory08:14
ndazza!tell rance about repositories08:14
ndazzadamn spelling...08:14
rancethere it goes08:14
rancethanks you08:14
ndazzano worries08:14
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joshisscifianyone wanna help me get the wireless to auto-start?08:21
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ndazzajoshisscifi: try fiddling with the file /etc/network/interfaces (i think that's it)08:23
joshisscifik08:23
joshisscifialright, I installed the nvidia-glx from adept, and ran the config.... does it need a reboot?08:25
joshisscifiopengl is still running sloooooow08:25
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juifthanks for the help people, i think i will like this os08:41
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blackflaghello all09:00
blackflagI sthere a way to do copying files within console from one computer to another?09:01
blackflagftp?09:01
blackflagor are there other ways?09:01
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nomasteryoda|wsftp09:10
nomasteryoda|wmany09:10
blackflagokay, Im connected cia console to the ftp server09:10
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blackflaghow can I now copy a file to the server?09:11
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blackflagI do ?09:11
blackflagbut there is no copy command09:11
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juifcould it be that compressed video is laggy and skips ? using VLC09:20
juifcant run it full-screen without comical stop-motion aspect09:20
juifnormal /09:21
juif?09:21
_dad<--- noob.. what is the best graphis program??09:22
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_dadFor working with JPG that is09:23
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C-O-L-Twho can help me in installing ww2d program like google earth09:35
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C-O-L-T who can help me in installing ww2d program like google eartg09:40
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C-O-L-Tcallie: are you there? Please help me in installing ww2d program like google earth, I told you yesterday about it09:47
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juifanyone know why video playback is poor ?09:54
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juifwith all programs i try09:54
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tencohi all!10:01
tencowhere should i install the win32 codecs for mplayer with breezy?10:02
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C-O-L-T who can help me in installing ww2d10:07
C-O-L-T??????????????10:07
C-O-L-TGOOGLE EARTH FOR LINUX10:07
harawhat source do i need to insert to sources.list to get newest avidemux2 ?10:08
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tencoC-O-L-T: whats ww2d10:14
tencos///d10:14
tencos//?10:15
tencoargh10:15
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DjDarkmanhy ,i bought a better monitor ,how can I adjust the available resolutions and freqencies?10:22
crimsunsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:23
DjDarkman10x10:24
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C-O-L-Ttenco: GOOGLE EARTH FOR LINUX10:31
C-O-L-TI AM CURRENTLY AWAY10:31
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DjDarkmanhy again ,please give me a link where I can find the information ,about mounting and fstab10:34
calliewww.google.com10:35
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tencoDjDarkman: http://www.tldp.org/10:36
DjDarkmank 10x10:37
tenco10x? (thanks?)10:38
callieor 10x = tenx = tenco?10:38
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tenco:-)10:39
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thegladiatori did  a #kubuntu-dektop install in my ubuntu10:40
tencothegladiator: great.10:41
thegladiatorin services , I can see a graphical logical manager(gdm) running10:41
thegladiatoralong with glm for kde10:41
tencowhats glm?10:41
thegladiatori wonderwhy these 2 are running are they requured ?10:41
thegladiatorgraphical logical manager10:42
ilba7rinstall kdm as an alternative thegladiator10:42
thegladiatorsorry i mean login manaegr10:42
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thegladiatorilba7r, it is installde with kubuntu-dekto10:43
thegladiatordesktop*10:43
thegladiatorno ?10:43
ilba7ri thought so but did you configure it to be your default10:43
thegladiatori am not sure , I didnt configure10:44
ilba7rif you do so you can remove gdm safely if you wish to10:44
ilba7rduring the installation you were presented a question which you prefer as your default10:44
thegladiatoractually I dont want to rmove gdm manager , rather I woul like to set kdm as default10:44
thegladiatorand deactivate gdm only10:44
thegladiatorhow can I do this10:44
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ilba7ri think the command is dpkg -reconfigure kdm but let me check10:44
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thegladiatorthank you please tell me10:45
stridersudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm10:45
thegladiatorstrider what does that do ?10:45
ilba7rhere you go we have confirmation10:45
striderIt will give you a choice10:45
striderchoose KDM10:45
thegladiatoractually i like the gdm login screen as opposed to my kdm screen10:45
ilba7rstrider also can be reconfigure kdm10:45
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strideryes either one ;)10:46
thegladiatoreither one could work ?10:46
thegladiatoroops10:46
CGAhi y'all && how comes that amarok it can play mp3 out of the box? what do in need to install? (FYI: i've searched through adept and synaptic)10:46
thegladiatori can use gdm for kubuntu ?10:46
ilba7ryao10:46
ilba7rsorry yap done that for a while10:46
thegladiator!erstricted format10:47
ubotuthegladiator: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?10:47
striderthegladiator: oh yes10:47
ilba7r!restictedformat10:47
ubotuilba7r: Are you on ritalin?10:47
ilba7r!restricted10:47
ubotu[restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats10:47
CGAthanks ilba7r10:47
ilba7rthegladiator, ubotu seems to be picky to whom it respond ;). its picky to the question though10:48
thegladiatorstrider, so I will get the gnome splash if I do that way ?10:48
thegladiatorhe he:)10:48
ilba7rCGA, ur welcomed10:48
CGA=)10:49
striderthegladiator: let me put it this way. I have bothe Gnome and KDE and prefer GDM. you can change the screen too - type sudo gdmsetup10:50
thegladiatori mean I dont need gnome splash but human login  screen is very nice10:50
thegladiatori see10:50
thegladiatorlet me try and se th results10:50
striderthegladiator: you can always go back. do a reconfigure gdm and voila! heh10:50
thegladiatoryep :)10:51
CGAilba7r: do i need to restart amarok or something to be able to use that lib? i've installed it and it returns the same error if i try to D&D the file on the playlist.10:52
thegladiatorjust close the program10:53
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thegladiatorand re-run mayb10:53
CGAok10:53
ilba7rcga i am not sure not an amarok fan do not use it10:53
CGAilba7r: neither am i but i'm trying out kubuntu since i will install it to a n00b friend10:54
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CGAso i wanna use the default applications for him10:54
thegladiatorCGA, why dont you install the necessary things as given in the site and then try xmms first ?10:55
CGABTW closing amarok and trying to play file with it doesn't work10:55
ilba7rdo you have wincodec cga10:56
CGAthegladiator: well as i said b4 i wanna give hime a working system with default apps && one should be able to do that without installing other applications , do you understand what i mean?10:56
thegladiatoryes10:56
thegladiatorCGA, do whats the engine for ur amarok ?10:56
CGAilba7r: i don't think so, i still have to finish that restricted formats wiki10:56
ilba7rCGA, after you finish it you can then test amarok it might be the format of the file you are trying to play10:57
CGAthegladiator: uhm.. not sure about that, what is the default engine?10:57
CGAilba7r: sure thing10:57
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thegladiatorgo to setting -> configure amarok ->engine and tell me the engine name . but afte you do the necessary installation as said in RF page10:58
thegladiatorCGA have you installed alsa ?10:59
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CGAthegladiator: engine is gstreamer && alsa should be installed by default...11:00
CGAotherwise you couldn't call ubuntu "linux for human beings"...11:00
CGABTW now it works.... i was missing akode-mpeg11:00
thegladiatortheree you go11:00
CGAas stated in the wiki fro RF11:00
thegladiatorgood11:00
CGAyep11:01
thegladiatorbrb11:01
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dadHi I'm looking for some help pls11:03
CGAdad: what's all about?11:04
dadIm trying to forward ports in kubuntu and I'm new to linux11:05
CGAdad: sorry i'm not iptables expert i can't help you11:05
dadwell thanks anyway11:06
ilba7rdad install firefox11:07
ilba7rit is a frontend for iptables11:07
ilba7ruser friendly too11:07
dadyes I've done that ilba11:07
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CGAilba7r: firefox? you mean firestarter?11:08
ilba7rso you just need to add a rule that the port is open. by the way by default all ports are open on ubuntu till you install firestarter11:08
ilba7rCGA, sorry lack of sleep11:08
CGAeh eh11:08
dadI use p2p called azureus11:08
CGAyour apologize goes to dad anyway... :P11:08
ilba7rif you id not close the ports they are open dad11:09
dadand its receiving no incoming connections11:09
CGAdad:  are you behind a NAT or something?11:09
ilba7rdad than install the front end firestarter and open the ports. if you have a router you need to forward the ports there11:09
dadi am thinking its a firewall problem11:10
dadyeah I have a router that is all configured ok because I HAVE A DUAL BOOT SYSTEM and azureus runs great on winxp11:10
CGAok DON'T SREAM please11:11
CGA*scream11:11
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dadsorry i accidentally pressed caps lock11:11
ilba7rdad i am sure than you use the same ip address for the linux box as the window box11:11
calliedad: i had the same problem, you'll need to port forward for it to work under linux11:11
dadyes callie thats why I am here11:12
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callieok, well. what kind of router do you have?11:12
dadnetgear dg???11:12
ilba7rdad i run an ftp server here and port forward is a router work11:12
thegladiatorhow can I change the kde login screen ? i can chnage the background etc. but not the real screen where you enter your password ?11:12
ilba7rso long the ports are opened on your linux box11:12
dadilba how do I get firestarter11:13
ilba7rsudo apt-get install firestarter11:13
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dadis it in adept11:13
ilba7rsure11:13
thegladiatorcan someone enlighten me on edititng the login screen in kde ?11:13
dadok thanks11:13
thegladiatori opened login mananer11:13
dadcallie any thoughts ?11:13
ilba7rthegladiator i really do not understand what you want to do11:14
calliedad: all i know is that forwarded a port to my linux box ip and told azurus to look at that port range11:14
ilba7rif you need a new theme you can go to kde-look.org11:14
ilba7rthegladiator, you can search through the package manager too for kdm themes11:15
thegladiatoryou see a starting screen where you enter ur user/pass when you boot into linux no ?11:15
dadam I correct in thinking firestarter is the (k)ubuntu firewall application ?11:15
thegladiatorthat bluish screen ?11:15
thegladiatorilba7r, i need to change that to something else11:16
ilba7rdad, it is a frontend to iptabs the firewall of linux11:16
thegladiatorilba7r, get me?11:16
ilba7rthegladiator, that is tedious work i just went looked for a theme i like than installed it11:17
dadthank you for your help  everyone11:17
thegladiatorthen give me the theme :)11:17
ilba7ri sent you a link to pick what you want thegladiator11:17
ilba7rhttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1816011:18
callieand people wonder why i smoke11:18
thegladiatorthanks let me see that11:18
thegladiatorilba7r, you install that via kcontrol aint it ?11:18
thegladiatorthe system settings-appearnace doesnt help with theme installation ?11:19
ilba7rthegladiator http://www.kde-look.org/ and search for kdm theme. each theme will tell you how to install11:19
thegladiatorok11:19
CGAok guys, i'm off && thx ilba7r and thegladiator for the help =)11:19
thegladiatorpleasure CGA11:19
ilba7rthegladiator, did you try kynaptic searching for kdm themes or login themes11:20
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thegladiatoryep i am right there11:22
dadilba konsole is saying it couldn't find package firestarter11:22
ilba7r!repos11:22
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource11:22
ilba7rdad try adding the extra reposi11:22
dadilba a bit simpler please11:23
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ilba7rdad, ubotu gave you a link to enable the extra repositories. they are ftp sites for more packages you can install11:23
ilba7rso read e http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and use breezy repos11:24
calliegah, this is doing my head in11:25
callieilba7r: i take it you're pretty up on networking and the likes?11:25
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ilba7rcallie i used to play a little bit till i was bored and let it go after a while11:26
ilba7rso am not a guru but might help11:26
callieok, well im trying to setup a connection between this box and my xbox, i have second NIC installed and a crossover cable connected11:27
calliei've assigned a manual ip to the xbox and given it the gateway ip of my second NIC11:27
ilba7rcallie, never was a gaming person so won't be able to help11:27
callieilba7r: just trying to ping the xbox at the moment, im not worried about gaming yet11:28
ilba7rcallie,  try in ubuntu room /join #ubuntu11:28
ilba7rok11:28
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callieok, thanks anyhow11:29
ilba7rhoped i was of more help11:30
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dadno ilba I am new to linux. i'm using kde and I have adept and not synaptec11:30
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s_spiffhey, I'm a ubuntu user, about to install KDE again [ this is my second shot at it ] 11:31
s_spiff last time, in the app. menu, all the GNOME app's were also displayed11:32
ilba7rdad the procedure is the same for ubuntu and kubuntu. instead of synaptic use kynaptic or adept11:32
s_spiff I do not want that to happen, what should I do?11:32
dadIve found shorewall which is saying its a firewall11:32
ilba7rdad i do not know about shorewall i tried to find the simples most user friendly. There are a multitude of them11:33
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ilba7rnow am really getting sleepy so take care all11:34
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blackflagcan someone tell me how I can tranfer a directory via ftp-command?11:43
blackflagput dont work11:43
blackflagI get an "not a plain file."11:44
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knubbeblackflag: with the built in ftp-client?11:51
knubbeblackflag: im not sure thats possible, if mput doesnt work11:51
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_alisallam12:07
_alihi andred12:08
_alihow do you do?12:08
_alican you read me?12:08
thegladiatorwhats kubuntu's default theme ?12:08
thegladiatorhow do I change to kubuntu's default ?12:09
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thegladiatorin theme-manager i changed a few things and messed up12:09
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kesslerAnyone know a good guide to install nvidia drivers? The last one i used messed up my system bigtime =|. It seems like i can't use the method i used to use in debian, since i haven't compiled the kernel myself (the nvidia installer calls for nvidia.ko)12:14
pinucsetthegladiator plastik, in kcontrol12:14
Hobbsee!+nvidia12:14
ubotufrom memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736812:14
thegladiatoricons in my dektop became small12:17
thegladiatoractually12:17
thegladiatorhwo can i correct it and the the spacing between icons is also large12:17
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thegladiatorhow do I adjust the distance between icons in dektop and increase the icon size ?12:19
thegladiatorhow do I increase the size , the rest can be handled12:20
thegladiatorgues it is a siple thing12:21
thegladiatordoes anyont know ?12:21
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Hobbseei think the icon size is set somewhere in system settings - try the icons tab12:25
Tudor_bdoes anybody get freezes?12:25
Tudor_bin kubuntu?12:25
Tudor_bhow do you solve them?12:25
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jpatrickhey Hobbsee12:26
Hobbseehey jpatrick :)12:26
fridgethegladiator: System Settings -> Appearance -> Icons -> Advanced12:26
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pinucsetone thing, in konqueror when i do f5 it puts a black horrible cursor, how can i do that it doesnt changes?12:29
Hobbseepinucset: not seeing that happen here, in kde3.512:31
Hobbseeso i'm not sure12:31
pinucsetHobbsee okay...12:32
Hobbseein dapper kde3.5 that is...12:32
Hobbseesomeone with breezy might check it for you12:33
apokryphospinucset: that's down to your KDE icon theme12:33
apokryphosit's just the "loading", since F5 is refresh.12:33
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thegladiatorhow can i enable the shystem sounds ?12:39
pinucsetapokryphos how can i solve this?12:39
thegladiatorin system setting -?sounds .system sound and networked sounds has been marked with a cross...12:40
thegladiatorthat means its checked ?12:40
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kesslerHmm, kde doesnt seem very stable out-of-the-box12:46
ninnghizidhai cant change me music-volume witht he volumeup and -down keys ... a Onscreendisplay comes up, but the volume doenst change with it.12:47
kesslerIs apt-get update/upgrade enough to fix the instability?12:47
thegladiatorkessler on kubuntu or ubuntu with kde installed ?12:47
kesslerkubunto and the kde that comes with breeze12:48
thegladiatorit generally is stable . but yes do upgradation use update manager12:50
kesslerI use the default "nv" drivers as well, havent installed nvidia drivers yet. Perhaps this could fix the problem?12:50
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kesslerDoesn't seem very stable to me. Think it has run for 30 mins max without crashing12:50
thegladiatorkessler : do a memtest86 check to ensure it is not a RAM poblem12:51
thegladiatorkessler, yes try out nvidia first!12:52
thegladiator!+nvidia12:52
uboturumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736812:52
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thegladiatorjust a casual doubt , when I creat a link to my hdd's in the dektop , an emblem comes up in the ICON showing that it is a Link . can I remove that ?12:57
ninnghizidhahow can i change gdm for kdm?12:57
jpatricksudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm12:58
thegladiatorninnghizidha, simple12:58
ninnghizidhathanks a lot :-)12:58
ninnghizidhathat was what i was searching for12:58
thegladiatorwhich one are u going to set to ?12:58
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ninnghizidhakdm.01:00
ninnghizidhagdm is only for one display, but kdm expands to both monitors01:01
thegladiatorhow can I remove the "emblem" that shows a folder is a link ?01:06
thegladiatorin the desktop ?01:06
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thegladiatorgnome does that easily . i can click on properties01:06
kesslerffs, it keeps on crashing01:07
kesslerAnyone have an idea how to fix it? Should i get an other version of kde than the one that comes with kubunto breeze?01:07
thegladiatorkubuntu breeze is new AFAIK01:08
thegladiatorversion is 3.4.3 ?01:08
kesslerhow to check?01:08
thegladiatoropen somethin like control01:08
thegladiatorkcontrol01:08
thegladiatorfor eg.01:08
kessler3.4.3 yes01:08
thegladiatorthen it is stable01:08
thegladiatorffs = ?01:09
thegladiator!ffs01:09
ubotuthegladiator: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?01:09
kesslerffs = for fucks sake01:09
thegladiatorwhoops k01:09
kessler=)01:09
kesslerBut uhm01:09
thegladiatorcrashin like what kessler?01:09
thegladiatorcould you explain ?01:09
kesslerWell, if i for example opens the kde menu (What in windows is "start"), the colours screw up really bad, and the system locks up few seconds later. At that point i cannot shutdown x, or even change to another terminal. Only fix i've found so far, is reboot =/01:10
thegladiatorit must be a graphics problem then ?01:11
kesslerI guess. Thats why i thought it might be kde that was unstable01:11
thegladiatorkde is not unstable , atleast not that version01:12
thegladiator3.4.3 is almost bleeding edge01:12
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kesslerThen what could it be? The gfx card have been testet throughly in windows without any problems so i doubt it could be a hardware error causing this01:13
thegladiatorkessler, whats ur graphics card ?01:14
thegladiatordid you try installaing nvidia ?01:14
kesslerclub3d gforce 6600gt01:14
thegladiatorkubuntu i guess shud have taken it01:14
thegladiatorso that couldnt be the issue01:14
thegladiatorRAM ?01:14
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kesslerSorry, you were saying?01:16
kesslerit just crashed on me again, but this time i was able to keep it going with ctrl+alt+backspace01:16
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thegladiatorur RAM is 256 or greater ?01:16
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kesslerRAM? Well, it could be, but i doubt it. Tested both the ram and cpu with memtest and cpuburn with zero errors01:17
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kessleryes, 1024mb01:17
thegladiatorkessler, thats great .01:17
kesslerwell, thats how you look at it. It's unstable as **** :P01:18
C-O-L-Twho has installed ww2d program like google earth?????????????01:18
thegladiatorkessler, i cant understand the problem here actually . if is kubunyu install kde musnt crash like the way it does for you .01:18
thegladiatorkessler, why dont try Gnome and see if its the instability problem with kde ?01:18
thegladiatorkessler, try installing ubuntu-desktop package from repos ?01:19
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kesslerI think might be the nvidia driver. The colors are the same as i've seen them when a driver is not installed correctly. Is this possible?01:19
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kesslerbut i'll try installing those01:20
thegladiatorfirst try installing nvidia driver01:20
thegladiator!+nvidia01:20
ubotuit has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736801:20
C-O-L-Twho has installed ww2d program like google earth?????????????01:20
thegladiatorC-O-L-T, a.k.a spam bomb . wait till you get a reply01:20
thegladiatorC-O-L-T, i havent installed nyways01:21
kesslerthegladiator: i'm having trouble with the first 7 steps01:21
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Tm_TC-O-L-T: use one questionmark and don't repeat all the time01:21
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C-O-L-Tthegladiator: Yesterday I found this program and I am really interested in it. But I am a new user and I can not make the install http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Introduction01:22
apokryphospinucset: change your mouse theme, of course 8)01:22
C-O-L-Tthegladiator: help me if you can01:22
thegladiatorC-O-L-T, i gave u a suggestion . the program is interesting . so ask in #ubuntu and dont spam since they are less tolerant than #kubuntu01:22
thegladiatorthats called meta-help , help hidden in help :p01:23
C-O-L-Tthegladiator: nobody wants to help me, at #ubuntu, they are not helpful at all01:23
C-O-L-Tthegladiator: When I post my question nobody answers to it, that is why I am spamming01:24
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thegladiatori know its tuf , but even spamming hardly helps . just wait or try out in other channels as well01:25
thegladiatorhow do enable the sound in KDE ? the system sounds ?01:26
apokryphosC-O-L-T: no, that doesn't justify spamming.01:26
HobbseeC-O-L-T: you've been warned about spamming before.  if no one replies, either no one is awake, or no one knows the answer to the question01:26
Hobbseethegladiator: sound section of system settings01:26
Tm_Tactually spamming is main reason why I don't help... ;--P01:26
thegladiatori went to System Settings ->  Sounds01:26
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CGAhi all01:26
thegladiatorbut the problem is it is still not working .01:26
C-O-L-TI understand everything. But then what to do01:26
Tm_TC-O-L-T: http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Download01:27
thegladiatorthe options are system sounds which has been marked with a X and also the networked sound option whioch has ben marked with X01:27
Tm_Tread it01:27
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Tm_TC-O-L-T: and ask specified questions01:27
thegladiatorstill the sounds doesnt seem to work01:27
C-O-L-TTm_T: I know. I have followed the instructions, but I can not install jar files01:27
Tm_Tinstall jar...01:27
C-O-L-TTm_T: I have installed Java Runtime Enviroment01:27
thegladiatorC-O-L-T, have you installed sun' s java ?01:27
Tm_TC-O-L-T: you install it by running it01:28
C-O-L-TI've got the deb files from seveas repository01:28
ninnghizidhahow can i turn of the use of the documents-folder?01:28
thegladiatorHobbsee, whats the problem any ideas ?01:28
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St0n3-C0l I want to run both gnome and kde on the same box and....I updated my repos to dapper and did kubuntu-desktop it gave one condition " To remove all gnome apps and install kde apps " Any Help ??01:29
C-O-L-TTm_T: I have installed Java from seveas repository the deb one, but still  i can not run the jar file01:29
Hobbseethegladiator: try going to system notifications tab, player settings01:29
Hobbseemake sure it's set to "use teh KDE sound system"01:29
Hobbsee*the01:30
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Tm_TI give up... doesn't give anything01:30
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thegladiatorHobbsee, how do I make sure it syses de sound system ?01:31
Hobbseetick the box :P01:31
thegladiatorkde start/exit cant be previews it seems01:31
thegladiatorsounds i mean01:31
thegladiatoryep I saw that one01:32
thegladiatornow lwt me restart the X and see01:32
thegladiatorbrb01:32
C-O-L-Tthegladiator: As I see Tm_T went away, I have installed Java from seveas repository given to me by ubotu. But I still can not run the jar file01:33
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thegladiatoryeah weird opening sound :)01:33
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C-O-L-Tthegladiator: :(01:37
SilfarI'm need help for install printer HP Laserjet 102201:38
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Hobbsee!printer01:38
ubotumethinks printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org01:38
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visik7why sudo doesn't remember my password in the same terminal ?01:46
visik7Imean01:46
HuffalumpIs this the appropriate place to ask a question or two regarding my attempts at using the Kubuntu live cd?01:46
visik7if I do sudo something01:46
visik7and then another sudo command ok01:46
apokryphosvisik7: it does, but only for  15 mins01:46
apokryphosHuffalump: sure01:47
visik7apokryphos: ok how to remove 15min timeout ?01:47
apokryphosvisik7: man sudo01:47
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apokryphosvisik7: or man sudoers, more specifically.01:48
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HuffalumpI used the Ubuntu 32-bit live cd on a laptop and desktop; very nice.  Now, I am trying Kubuntu 64-bit on my amd64 box... and I am trying to adjust the network settings so I can configure my wifi card.  This window currently grays out my nic listings (present but grayed) and there is a notice that I must click "Administrator Mode" to allow modifications.  Now, the window is larger than the screen!  And I cannot resize the window, apparently.  After a couple01:49
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apokryphosHuffalump: use ctrl+right-mouse-button to move the window01:50
visik7apokryphos: if I put a NOPASSWORD in sudoers ksu still ask me for a pwd ?01:50
slow-motionhallo01:50
HuffalumpI don't seem to understand.01:51
apokryphosvisik7: that's not just how you'd do it. Also, please please don't muck around with the sudoers if you're not sure. You can get into a lot of problems :P01:51
HuffalumpWhen I ctrl+right click... I get options to move the Toolbar portion of the window01:51
apokryphos(i.e. muck up your sudoers -- no more sudo for you 8))01:51
apokryphosHuffalump: sorry, left-mouse-button01:51
apokryphosvisik7: put this in:01:51
HuffalumpAh, I tried this and it allows me to move up, down, left, and right.01:52
HuffalumpHowever, It never allows me to resize the window so I can see the whole bloody thing.01:52
apokryphosvisik7: username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL01:52
HuffalumpAlso, I tried resizing from the corners and that is not working.01:52
visik7apokryphos: in sarge if I put nopassword in sudoers  sudo command works without asking me any password01:52
visik7but01:52
apokryphosvisik7: note that (i) that is insecure, and (ii) replace "username" with your username.01:52
visik7do ksu do the same ?01:52
apokryphosksu?01:52
visik7sorry01:52
visik7kdesu01:53
apokryphosdo you mean kdesu?01:53
apokryphosyes, it will.01:53
visik7oh ok01:53
visik7thanks01:53
visik7yes I know that it's insecure01:53
apokryphosHuffalump: if you can move tehw indow then surely you can move it to have that button visible, no?01:53
HuffalumpI also tried resizing the desktop (1024x768 seems to be max under Kubuntu) and yet, the Network Settings is *still* larger than the whole screen.01:53
HuffalumpI am not sure how to describe it to you, but no.01:53
apokryphosHuffalump: what monitor do you have?01:53
HuffalumpI can move the window down... so its almost all offscreen...01:53
HuffalumpBut, I cannot move it, for example, above the screen ...01:54
visik7I don't gat the problem of network settings window larger than the scree01:54
apokryphosHuffalump: why ever not?01:54
visik7(1024x76801:54
HuffalumpI dont know.01:54
HuffalumpIt is an LCD01:54
apokryphosHuffalump: ok, just alt+f2 -> kdesu systemsettings01:54
visik7Huffalump: try to move the window using alt and left mouse button01:54
CGA!help01:54
kinfoAvailable commands: !help, !uptime, !netuse, ??, !!, !cs, !whoset, !learn, !relearn, !forget, !topten, !status01:54
apokryphoskinfo: you again!01:54
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apokryphoshm01:55
Huffalumphmmm01:55
Huffalumplet me restate01:55
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HuffalumpI can move the window left01:55
HuffalumpI can move the window right01:55
HuffalumpI can move the window down01:55
HuffalumpI cannot move it up01:55
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Huffalumpin order to find the buttons at the bottom01:55
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apokryphosHuffalump: please stop flooding01:55
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HuffalumpFurthermore, I cannot resize the windows in order to find the buttons.    (ok, re flooding)01:56
apokryphosHuffalump: I really doubt that, if you followed what me or visik7 said, but anyway -- try the last thing I said.01:58
HuffalumpTrust me, the window is ganked.  However, your little line command DID work for me.  And now I have access to configure, but seem to have a new problem...01:58
visik7Huffalump: using alt+left-mouse-button you can click in every point of the window even the lowest so you can drag the window up02:00
HuffalumpI can select either ath0 or eth0.  In my case, I want to use ath0, so I select it and click "Configure Interface" and then set it to DHCP.  I click okay.  I reselect ath0 from the main Network Settings menu, right click, select Enable Interace... a little progress window pops up to say its enabling it.  Great!  And I see the green checkmark for about 1 second... and then it revers to the red X.  Any pointers where I might go to solve that?02:00
HuffalumpAh, ALT+left does work.  Thank you.  (Ctrl did not, perhaps I misread.)02:01
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kesslerHmm, i tried installing nvidia drivers using the guide from !nvidia. But when i use "nvidia" in xorg.conf the screen just turns black. If i change it to "nv", it works like a charm (except 3d and stability though)02:04
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manverukessler, since when is nv not stable?02:04
kesslermanveru: i can't tell if it's nv that is not stable, but something definately isnt. So i'm just trying different things to make it more stable. Besides, i need the nvidia driver anyway for 3d.02:05
kesslerI use a lcd monitor connected through DVI input. Anything i have to change/do in order to make that work with the nvidia driver?02:06
amigravehow can I disable automount for usb drives and autostart of kscd when inserting an audiocd ?02:06
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visik7kessler:  check if the module is loaded02:07
visik7amigrave: in kcontrol02:07
visik7amigrave: under device->storage device -> advanced02:08
amigravevisik7: ok, I thought kcontrol was useless since it was removed from the menu. Thanks02:08
visik7maybe someone should put this in the wiki02:08
kesslervisik7: can i get a hint on how to do that? dmesg | grep what?02:08
visik7amigrave: alt+f2 kcontrol02:08
visik7btw in the menu there is storage device somewhere02:09
visik7kessler:  lsmod02:10
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HuffalumpIs it a limitation of using a Kubuntu-64 Live CD to not be able to configure the wifi card?  (I did not have that limitation using Ubuntu-32 on a different machine, but perhaps this live cd works differently...)02:10
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amigravevisik7: the device root node is only kde 3.5 ? Can't find it02:12
visik7amigrave: dunno I'm using 3.5 never use  3.0 < kde < 3.502:13
dsbonzoHow does one go about configuring a wireless lan device that has appropriate modules loaded, and an entry /etc/network/interfaces, but gives "unknown interface" responses to ifup?02:13
kesslervisik7: i can find both nvidia, nvidia_agp and agpgart in lsmod02:14
visik7kessler: good news02:14
amigravevisik7: is there a stable repository for kde3.5 for breezy ?02:14
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visik7amigrave: sure02:14
joshisscifidsbonzo: what does iwconfig tell you?02:14
visik7amigrave: add this deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main to your soruces.list02:15
dsbonzospits out lo, eth0 and wlan0 and says "no wireless extensions" for each one.02:15
amigravevisik7: thanks02:15
joshisscifidsbonzo: even for wlan0?02:15
kesslervisik7: yes, i guess that means the driver is installed correctly? Now i just have to figure out why i cannot get an image on my screen when using "nvidia" over "nv"02:15
dsbonzoyes sir02:15
amigravevisik7: I guess I'll have problems if I'm using kde packages in universe or multiverse !?02:16
visik7kessler: check /var/log/xorg.log or something like that02:16
visik7amigrave: sorry ?02:16
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joshisscifidsbonzo: which wireless card are you using?02:16
dsbonzojoshisscifi: hawking hi-gain usb wireless interface (prism2 chipset)02:17
hawking?02:17
amigravevisik7: If I'm using a kde program that is in multiverse, will it work if I upgrade to kde 3.5 ?02:17
visik7probably02:17
visik7tell me one02:17
thegladiatorcan someone help me in installing kde 3.5 ?02:17
joshisscifidsbonzo: I'd check the ubuntu forums02:17
visik7and maybe I can check02:17
Tm_Tthegladiator: what about it?02:18
hawkingkde 3.5 is not so stable I guess :&02:18
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visik7thegladiator: got the repository and do an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade02:18
Tm_Thttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php02:18
visik7hawking: really not :)02:18
thegladiatorvisik7, kde 3.5 is in the repo's ?02:18
thegladiatorspirit is that you ?02:18
kesslervisik7: i'm sorry to bother you again, but i searched for xorg.log but i could not locate it02:18
visik7thegladiator: in a separate repo02:18
thegladiatorhawking=spirit ? :p02:18
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hawkingvisik7 : is there a way to get back to my older kde version?02:19
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thegladiatorvisik7, which repo ?02:19
visik7kessler: do u have this file ? /var/log/Xorg.0.log ???????02:19
hawkingthegladiator ;)02:19
visik7hawking: using pin and some voodoo ritual yes02:19
thegladiatori got this suggestion from #ubuntu02:19
thegladiatorthegladiator: add the url to your sources.list to get kde 3.502:19
visik7thegladiator: check the log02:19
hawkingvisik7 : or just reinstall whole system which is not a problem with 100mbps internet :p02:20
kesslervisik7: lol, sorry. Embarrasing that i missed that one. Used all the search functions i know, but failed to do a simple "ls" =(02:20
visik7hawking: as you want02:20
visik7kessler: np02:20
thegladiatorvisik7,  http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde3502:21
thegladiatorhow can I download the deb?02:21
thegladiator deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main ?02:21
thegladiatorwould do it ?02:22
visik7the one that I paste 10 minutes ago ?02:22
visik7yes02:22
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thegladiatorwhere sources.list?02:23
thegladiatoris*02:23
visik7thegladiator: maybe you should rtfm more02:23
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thegladiator!sources02:23
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource02:23
amigravevisik7: ksubtitleripper02:24
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ProtectYaNeckwhenever I click enable to enable my internet connection on the live cd the green check will appear for a second then turn back into a red x02:24
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visik7amigrave: yes it will work02:24
ProtectYaNeckany ideas?02:25
kesslerThink we're getting somewhere now. It says something about hsync being out of range, even though i used the settings printed in the manual. What are the default hsync/vsync settings for a 19" lcd monitor?02:25
amigravevisik7: is kde3.5 worth it in comparison to 3.4 ?02:25
HuffalumpProtectYaNeck, I have the EXACT same problem.02:25
ProtectYaNeckno kidding02:26
ProtectYaNeckwhat kind of network card are you trying to enable?02:26
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alejandro!w32codecs02:26
Huffalumpatheros on Kubuntu-6402:26
ubotuw32codecs is probably a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install02:26
HuffalumpPreviously, I got it to work... on Ubuntu-3202:26
ProtectYaNeckhmm, maybe I should try a ubuntu live cd and see if the problem is present02:27
HuffalumpI am holding out for an answer =] 02:27
visik7amigrave: .0 of kde should not be installed from the faint of heart02:27
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visik7s/from/by02:27
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visik7oh my english sucks :(02:27
Huffalumplooks fine to me, visik702:27
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visik7Huffalump: not to me :)02:28
visik7by the way ... if someone want to try kde 3.5 I suggest to wait the 20 of jan when 3.5.1 will come out02:28
thegladiatoris it possible to open file manager in super user mode other than from the shell using sudo ?02:29
ProtectYaNeckHuffalump, how long have you been having this problem?02:29
thegladiatorfc4 has file manager superUser02:29
HuffalumpJust today; I got Kubuntu-64 loaded in the last hour or less...02:29
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visik7the_nino: kdesu command02:30
visik7ops02:30
visik7thegladiator: kdesu command02:30
visik7thegladiator: alt+f2 kdesu command02:30
joshisscifibbial02:30
ProtectYaNeckwell I'm gonna stick around too then, drop me a line if you get an answer02:30
Huffalumpcan do02:31
HuffalumpI saw another guy on #ubuntu with a similar problem, but no answer02:31
thegladiatorkdesu is not there in my sys ?02:31
thegladiatorwhen i run that nothing comes up02:31
thegladiatorQt: Locales not supported on X server02:32
thegladiatorkdesu: No command specified.02:32
thegladiatorkdesu: Use --help to get a list of available command line options.02:32
ProtectYaNeckI'd like to have that resolved before I actually format and install02:32
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HuffalumpYes, I would not like to install something which appears not to work!  Heh.02:33
visik7thegladiator: kdesu <command you want to run with root privelege>02:33
thegladiatorthanks02:33
thegladiatornothing in GUI for that ?02:33
thegladiatorlike file user in super user mode stuff as in fc402:33
visik7thegladiator: it'll ask the password with a dialog02:33
thegladiatorah yep02:34
visik7never used fc402:34
visik7never used a redhat after 6.202:34
visik7to be honest :)02:34
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HuffalumpFC4 was pretty good.  But I am thinking to migrate, if I can get something working properly...02:34
visik7I hate rpm02:35
visik7I hate yom02:35
visik7yum02:35
HuffalumpI dislike *all* linux install routines.02:35
visik7and other stupid things that FC does02:35
HuffalumpThe new PBI on PC-BSD looks fun, however.02:35
visik7Huffalump: apt has supercow powers :)02:35
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thegladiatorvisik7, i did kdesu konqueror still I cant edit sources.list02:35
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thegladiatorit says user has no privileges02:36
visik7thegladiator: open konqueror as normal02:37
visik7right click02:37
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visik7actions-> edit as root02:37
thegladiatorthanks02:37
HuffalumpProtectYaNeck, if you select your device and click Configure Interface... in the resulting window, is your Advanced Settings grayed out?  Mine is.  And I am just curious.02:37
ProtectYaNeckadvanced settings isn't greyed out on mine02:38
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kesslerI just installed the nvidia drivers. However, when i use nvidia in the xorg.conf i get a black screen, and the log says something about hsync being out of range. However, if i change nvidia to nv in xorg.conf, kde starts up just fine. What could be wrong? I used the settings for vsync/hsync specified in the manual. nvidia, nvidia_agp and agpgart modules are loaded02:38
Huffalumpheh, I shut down the system and the "Deconfiguring network interfaces" process failed02:40
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visik7kessler: set your hsync02:42
visik7kessler: to a lower value02:42
visik7have you an lcd monitor ?02:42
visik7or crt ?02:42
kesslervisik7: lcd02:42
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visik7ok so put it to 60 and forgot it :P02:43
kesslervsync as well?02:43
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cleoI would comment them out ;D02:43
visik7oh sorry vsync :)02:43
kesslerthere02:44
kessleri've commented them out02:44
kesslershould i try ctrl+alt+backspace now?02:44
visik7bad practice02:44
kesslerhmm?02:45
visik7ctrl+alt+backspace from kdm02:45
visik7not from kde02:45
kesslerlog out then? Is that enough to restart x?02:45
visik7logout and ctrl+alt+bkspc02:46
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some_dudehi02:50
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some_dudewhat file controls the what services get started on boot ?02:50
kesslerHmm, that didn't work02:50
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thegladiatorin XChat I cant open a link in mozilla02:51
thegladiatorhow do I correct this ?02:51
thegladiatorI can open in konqueror though02:51
kesslerThe logs still says every resolution has hsync wrong. Default resolution is "Too large for visual blah". What could be wrong?02:51
thegladiatorwww.kde-look.org02:52
kesslerBtw, i've commented hsync/vrefresh out in xorg.conf now, and even with the nv driver, it seems a bit off. It doesnt fill out the whole screen. It's like watching a 16:9 movie on a 4:3 screen02:52
cleosome_dude: start scripts are located in /etc/init.d/ and they are controlled by /etc/rcX.d (X represents runlevel) - you can edit these entries with "update-rc.d"... read manual page02:52
thegladiatorwhen I click on that link for eg , it doesnt open nothing02:52
visik7kessler: is it a laptop or a desktop ?02:52
kesslerdesktop02:53
thegladiatorI have to manually right click on the link and openw tih konqueror02:53
kesslerviewsonic vs92402:53
kesslergeforce 6600gt02:53
kesslerdvi input02:53
visik7put your log & conf file into some pastebin02:53
kessler2 secs02:53
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kesslervisik7: http://pastebin.dk/index.php?show=136202:56
ToyMananyone around?02:56
ToyManI could use a clue with an upgrade problem02:57
ToyMantrying to upgrade to kde 3.5 beta 102:57
cleokessler: comment out ALL *sync entries02:57
jpatrickToyMan: why?02:58
kesslercleo: tried that, didnt work02:58
cleokessler: VerRefresh aswell?02:58
ToyManjpatrick: well, I was using konq profiles a lot02:58
thegladiatorToyMan, i am installing kde 3.5 now02:58
kesslercleo: all02:58
ToyManand in 3.4 they seemed to be broken02:58
cleomhh02:58
jpatrickToyMan: just install 3.502:58
ToyMani'd read that it was fixed in 3.502:58
visik7kessler: remove the horizontal entry and keep the vertical02:58
ToyManwhat's the repository for that?02:59
thegladiatortoy man here is the link02:59
jpatricksee /topic02:59
ToyManah02:59
thegladiatordeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main02:59
ToyManduh02:59
thegladiatorthis is the repo02:59
kesslervisik7: i'll try that02:59
kesslerbrb02:59
thegladiatorhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php see this page to isntall02:59
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visik7kessler btw your problem is another03:01
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Yondoes any1 here have sudoku?03:03
Yoni got one from synoptics but it doesnt work03:04
cleoksudoku?03:04
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kesslerHmm, didnt work03:05
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thegladiatorkde 3.5 is much better than 3.4.3 ?03:05
thegladiatorinstallation in underway03:05
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kesslerTried wth vsync off, tried with hsync off, tried with both off, tried with both on, tried different hsync/vsync settings, nothing. Still just shows a black screen03:05
Yoncleo no it was gnome sudoku03:05
Yonits the only one i found03:06
cleoYon: enable universe repository and install ksudoku03:06
cleoand don't chat as root :D03:07
kesslervisik7: you have any idea what could be wrong?03:07
visik7kessler the log file is the one that's works not the one that doesn't !!!03:07
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Yoncleo wat does it make a diffrence if im root or not? its easyer to do stuff in root03:08
visik7kessler: the monitor goes off ?03:08
kessleryes. The monitors OSD shows "No signal"03:08
visik7ok03:08
visik7and the log is wrong03:08
visik7give me the right Xorg.log (the one that fail03:08
visik7s03:08
kesslersorry, i'm not really sure what i'm looking for in the log03:08
visik7the Xorg.log.0 is generated every X start03:10
kessleroooh03:10
visik7so if u paste me after a successfull X boot03:10
visik7I can't see the error...03:10
visik7you know ?03:10
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Yoncleo i have a comment that is disabled saying ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security03:10
jpatrickYon: and?03:10
jpatrickYon: that's the MOTU's jobs03:11
Yoniv enabled every link, so i dont know why i dont have ksuduku03:11
Yonwats MOTU?03:11
jpatricksudo apt-get update03:11
jpatrick!motu03:11
ubotumethinks motu is the Masters of the Universe ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU )03:11
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ProtectYaNeckHuffalump, same problem in ubuntu03:13
kesslervisik7: http://pastebin.dk/index.php?show=136303:13
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kesslershould be the right log03:13
ProtectYaNecksays it's enabled, it's configurable, but to connection03:13
HuffalumpI am getting nowhere fast, protectyaneck03:14
HuffalumpIt says enabled?03:14
ProtectYaNeckyeah03:14
HuffalumpWow, thats progress.03:14
HuffalumpUbuntu 64?03:14
ProtectYaNecknot 6403:14
Yonok, i have my universe resps fully updated and i still dont have ksudoku03:14
Yon:/03:14
Huffalumpah, I did get mine to work under U-3203:14
visik7kessler: no error there03:14
kesslervisik7: i can see it saying something about vga. It shouldn't use vga, it should use dvi.03:14
HuffalumpConnected and all.03:14
ProtectYaNeckoh03:15
visik7kessler: nevermind03:15
ProtectYaNeckon a live cd?03:15
HuffalumpYep!03:15
ProtectYaNeckhmm03:15
visik7kessler: the log is from a successfull start of X03:15
HuffalumpIt detected and enabled it, automagically.  I just configured and connected.  It was like 30 seconds... very easy.03:15
HuffalumpSame for PCLinuxOS, for that matter.  Super-simple.03:16
ProtectYaNeckwow, mine says enabled and everything, but I can't connect03:16
kesslerI think x starts up fine. I just think it outputs the signal to the vga port instead of the dvi03:16
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visik7kessler: enable ssh03:16
visik7kessler: and after X is started03:16
thegladiatorI installed kde 3.5 just now03:16
visik7log into it03:16
thegladiatorno real difference I can feel03:16
thegladiatorany changes in the look and feel ?03:16
thegladiatoror its all the inside stuff?03:17
visik7kessler: ok I missunderstood your problem03:17
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HuffalumpAre you able to remove your wifi encryption, for testing purposes?  (i.e., open network)03:17
HuffalumpI did that because I read too much junk about WPA03:17
kesslervisik7: Okay. How do i enable sshd?03:17
visik7kessler: nevermind wrong solution03:17
visik7kessler: let me think03:17
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visik7kessler: maybe you can try to enable twin view03:19
kesslerokay?03:19
visik7the ? stands for ?03:19
thegladiatorhow do I configure konqueror so that  a new window is opened and not tabs ?03:20
thegladiatornto for the webbrowser03:20
thegladiatorbut when I view hda deviced etc03:20
kesslervisik7: i have no idea how to enable it :P03:20
visik7kessler: google says http://www.gmpf.de/index.php/NVidia:Twin_View03:20
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ninniuzhi is anyone using D-Link 504T router?03:21
kesslerhere we go again03:26
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kesslervisik7: wicked awesome! it works! Thanks a lot mate03:27
visik7really ?03:27
kesslerreally03:27
kessler=)03:27
kesslereven showed the nvidia logo and all03:27
visik7good I've a dvi monitor too but never used linux on so I bookmark this page maybe will be usefull03:28
visik7btw also the other output now is enable03:28
visik7but I don't think that is a problem03:28
kessleryeah, so if i for some reason wants to use vga, i still can03:28
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ToyManhmm. how do you handle overwrite conflicts during an upgrade?  My upgrade to 3.5 is trying to overwrite /usr/share/services/kresources/kabc/kabc_groupdav.desktop', which is also in package kaddressbook...03:31
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visik7ToyMan: remove kaddressbook or force it03:32
ToyManforce it?03:33
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HuffalumpProtectYaNeck: good luck!  i am going to try some other distros since no one here seems to know anything about networking03:39
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Yonim trying to install ksudoku that i got from the site03:40
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Yoni type tar -xvvzf ksudoku-0.3.tar.gz like is says in the install file but i get a error saying tar -xvvzf ksudoku-0.3.tar.gz03:43
visik7too many v03:43
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Yonoh03:44
Yoni copied and pasted the command03:44
Yon:P03:44
Yonbur it gave me the same error03:45
Yon?03:46
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visik7I don't see any error03:49
visik7:)03:49
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Yonhuh?03:49
Yonok wait, in the readme it says open a shell in the same dir as the read me , so i opend shell and i went to that dir, then i tryed that cmd and i get that error03:50
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thegladiatori would like get a blended look for knqueror03:52
thegladiatoris it possible ?03:52
thegladiatorwww.kde-look.org03:52
visik7Yon: I still don't see any error03:52
thegladiatoris it possible to open a terminal in an arbitray folder ?03:54
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thegladiatorlike say I am browsing a folder dektop and I need to open the terminal in the same folder and not in the home folder03:55
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thegladiatori get this error : checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp03:56
thegladiatorconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check03:56
thegladiatorSee `config.log' for more details.03:56
thegladiatorhow can I correct this ?03:57
Yonvisik7, bru wat r u talking about?03:57
thegladiatorhow to install build essential ?03:58
cleoapt-get install build-essential03:58
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slicslakwhat app should i use to connect to or backup my palm pilot?04:00
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cleoslicslak: maybe http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6807 helps you04:04
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Yoncleo, i downloaded the ksudoku from the site, but im having problems installing it04:05
kesslerHmm, when i open quake4 (800x600) the monitor doesnt rescale. I shows quake4 with big black borders around it04:05
cleoYon: I don't use breezy... in dapper I simply could install it through apt-get/universe repository04:06
slicslakthx cleo04:06
cleoYon: what problems?04:06
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Yonok, i extracted the file and typed in the command tar -xvvzf ksudoku-0.3.tar.gz04:08
Yon like it told me in the readme and i get the error tar: ksudoku-0.3.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory04:08
thegladiatorwhats the best package manager ? gui for #k ?04:08
thegladiatorkubuntu ?04:09
thegladiatorsynaptic doesnt work with me in kde04:09
thegladiatorI dontlike the adept interface much04:09
cleothegladiator: I heard something about kynaptic ...but never tried it... I use apt-get04:10
raphinkkubuntu is shipped with adept as package manager04:10
raphinkthere's also kynaptic and kpackage, but they are not as good imo04:10
thegladiatorah adept doesnt suit my tatste04:10
thegladiatoryou prefer adept ?04:10
raphinkI personally prefer to use the console for package management04:10
thegladiatorah04:10
raphinkapt-get is so complete that using a gui isnot necessary for me04:10
raphinkI say adept is the default one for kubuntu04:11
raphinkbut I use no GUI04:11
cleoYon: tar -xvvfz ksudoku-03.tar.gz is the extract command04:11
thegladiatortrue gui gives a search filter and stuff which I prefer over the command line search04:11
raphinkhmm ok04:11
cleoYon: so if you extracted the files before and are in the wrong directory...it cannot find the archive04:11
raphinkapt-cache search foo | grep bar04:12
raphinkis a good filter too ;)04:12
thegladiatoryep :) but need to type :)04:12
Yoncleo, oh right ok, now it makes sence thanks04:12
raphinkthegladiator: sure, you'd need to learn to type fast enough ;)04:12
thegladiator;p04:13
raphinkhehe04:13
cleoapt-get, apt-cache and apt-file is (nearly) all you need :D04:13
thegladiatorold windows habits :)04:14
raphinkapt-file is far too slow for me04:14
Yonwen i run Run "./configure --prefix=`kdeconfig --prefix`" i get the error configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH04:14
thegladiatorclick click and click04:14
thegladiatorYon04:14
cleoraphink: what do you use?04:15
thegladiatorinstall build essential04:15
raphinkoh really thegladiator ? how does windows deal with packages?04:15
raphinkcleo: what for?04:15
Yonok04:15
thegladiatorwindows world has no command lines04:15
raphinkthegladiator: YOUR windows world has no command lines04:16
cleoraphink:  to search in which package a specific file is included04:16
raphinkthegladiator: the windows world of real windows users and administrators uses command lines ;)04:16
raphinkcleo: dpkg -S04:16
Yonthnx thegladiator04:16
cleoraphink: but you need the package installed for dpkg -S ...don't you?04:16
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raphinkthegladiator: windows vista is gonna have a real command line similar to bash actually04:17
raphinkcleo: not sure04:17
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raphinkcleo: there was another command, too04:17
fitohola04:17
raphinkcleo: actually, this kind of search is the only reason for me to use gui ;) I use kio-apt for this most of the time ;)04:17
jpatrickhola fito04:17
cleoraphink: ah :)04:18
fitosoy nuevo04:18
Yonwen i ran that command, i got this error :checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!04:18
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jpatrickfito: puedes hablar en #kubuntu-es04:18
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s_spiff{AWAY}anyone here has KDE installed on Ubuntu?04:19
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cleoYon: read the doc and find out what depedencies the package has, maybe you need something like "libx11-dev" ..dunno04:19
wintersunhi04:20
Yonoh ok04:20
thegladiatorwhats dekorator ?04:20
thegladiatorhow do I install window themes using that04:20
kesslerHow do i shift my resolution to 800x600 (It is added in xorg.conf)04:20
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Blissexkessler: usually CTRL-ALT-+ or - to cycle through resolutions04:21
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s_spiffwhat is this kubuntu pastebin?04:22
Yoncloe under requirements its says these three things04:22
Blissexs_spiff: just yet another pastebin04:22
Yon- open gl library (also header files)  - mesa3d.org- glu library (also headerfiles) - mesa3d.org  kde headers and libs04:22
s_spiffwhats a pastebin?04:22
s_spiffwhat is its function?04:23
cleo!pastebin04:23
ubotupastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org04:23
Yonso now, is that the packages i need?04:23
s_spiffouu ok04:23
cleoYon: good question :)04:23
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cleoYon: *maybe* libglu1-mesa-dev and kde-devel - I really dont know04:26
thegladiatorwhn I open system settings - > appearance  -> window manager , the window opened is too big that I cant see the apply button04:26
thegladiatori cant reduce it04:26
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cleoYon: use apt-cache search04:26
thegladiatorcan someone help ?04:28
thegladiatorthe window size is large and doesnt let me to re size it04:28
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cleothegladiator: that's evil04:30
Yoncleo: i tryed serching for mesa3d.org and there was nothing04:30
cleoapt-cache search mesa| grep glu04:31
cleolibglu1-mesa-dev - The OpenGL utility library -- development support files04:31
Yonso... i must get libglul-mesa-dev?04:32
cleoI guess04:32
cleodo the search on your own, I am using dapper04:32
Yonyes, i get the same result, but there is one with -dev and one with out, does it matter?04:33
cleoYon: mesa3d.org- glu library (also headerfiles) - with headerfiles so take -dev04:34
Yonoh so, -dev is with headerfiles?04:35
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jpatrickYon: yes04:36
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Yoncleo, and the other 2?04:38
cleokde-devel04:39
cleoopen gl library <- don't know04:40
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cleoYon: maybe libgl1-mesa-dev04:41
Yonok, thanks alot cleo04:42
Yoni didnt understand how u used apt-serch, u put in a | and stuff04:42
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cleoYon: I search for "mesa" and pipe (| - forwards standard output to the following program) it through grep (grep filters the output again and looks for "glu")04:44
thegladiatordoes anyone know what kind  of error is this ? checking for KDE... configure: error:04:45
thegladiatorin the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.04:45
thegladiatorSo, check this please and use another prefix!04:45
thegladiator ?04:45
thegladiatori am trying to install a window decoration theme04:46
thegladiatori just do a ./configure04:46
cleothegladiator: maybe you need kde-devel too04:46
thegladiatorlet me try that04:46
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kameronhow do i change my *default* browser.. so stuff doesn't open in konq, but mozilla when i'm in kde?04:47
thegladiatorcleo, i cant install kde-devel04:48
thegladiatorthe error I get it04:48
thegladiatorkde-devel:04:48
thegladiator Depends: kdesdk but it is not going to be installed04:48
thegladiator Depends: kdelibs4-dev but it is not going to be installed04:48
thegladiator Depends: kdebase-dev but it is not going to be installed04:48
thegladiator Depends: libkonq4-dev but it is not going to be installed04:48
Yonok that makes sence cleo, thanks04:48
thegladiatorwhen using adept04:48
cleotry kdebase-dev..:>04:48
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thegladiatorwhy is it not going to be installed ?04:48
jpatrickthegladiator: the package is kdelibs4-dev04:48
thegladiatorthanks the installtion is underway lets see04:50
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Heishow do i avoid05:02
Heislol05:02
thegladiator!deb05:02
ubotuTo install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb05:02
Heishow can i avoid getting a black screen after loading kubuntu os to my laptop?05:02
Heisloading from live-cd if that matters...05:03
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martalliCa I ask for some help on setting up a Netgear MA401 802.11b pcmcia card with kubuntu 10.5 on my thinkpad 600e?05:05
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_kimhei05:22
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visik7someone got kicker and kwin crash in kde35 ?05:26
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thegladiatordoes nyone know how could I set my konqueror such that the filemanager is not openned in a "tab" mode05:33
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thegladiatorlike when I click on the home and then somewhere else a tab is added into the old window05:33
thegladiatorI prefer to have seperate windows for each diff clicks , but when it comes to browsing into folders , it shud be same window and no need of tabbing05:34
thegladiatorcan someone help me ?05:34
thegladiatorsomeone awake ?05:35
s_spiffhuh?05:36
thegladiator!05:36
ubotuthegladiator: I don't know, could you explain it?05:36
Yonthegladiator, have u looked in options, else cant u right click on the link and say open in new window?05:36
s_spiffhaha..05:36
Heissuddenly ppl answer.. :P05:36
thegladiatoryeah !05:36
thegladiatorlol05:36
thegladiatorYon, i need it to work like that be default05:37
thegladiatorwondering if thats there05:37
Heismaybe someone knows the solution to my black-screen-problem too?05:37
HeisHow can i avoid getting a black screen after loading kubuntu os to my laptop from a live-cd? It loads, and i can hear the login sound, and when i press the powerbutton i can see all the processes terminating. Everything works when i connect an external monitor to my laptop, but never on the built-in screen.05:37
thegladiatorit it something under web-behaviour ? under configure - knoqueeror ?05:38
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Yonthegladiator, ok its under web-behavour and u will c tabbing05:39
kesslerAnyone inhere that can recommend a good video player?05:39
thegladiatorw but that wud mean each time I click on a folder I will have to right click and open a new tab05:39
thegladiatorthanks05:39
thegladiatorkaffeine is good kessler05:39
thegladiatorVLC is also good , but mplayer is the most preffered i guess05:39
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Yonthegladiator, in andvaced options u should find wat u need05:40
thegladiatoradvanced option under web behaviour or somewhere else ?05:40
thegladiatorthere you go05:40
Yonin web-behavour under tabbing05:40
thegladiatoryes05:40
thegladiatorlet me check it out05:40
Yonsorry tabbed browser05:40
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Heisnoone knows the answer to my q?05:42
thegladiatorthe last one is what I shud change ?05:42
thegladiatorYon, ?05:42
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thegladiatorwhen external urs is called ... that one ?05:42
thegladiatorYon, or shud I check out the first option ?05:42
thegladiatoror shud I check out all these myself and find out  ?:)05:43
Yoni think... i think, deselect all05:43
Yonim not sure05:43
thegladiatoryep thanks05:43
thegladiatorits the last one05:43
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Yonoh ok kewl05:44
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s_spiff hey i just installed kde, actually in the process of downloading the meta package.... why is it download all the stuff..that was installed when I installed gnome!05:45
s_spiffits wastage of space!05:45
s_spiffhelllo!!!05:46
s_spiffhey while downloading the KDE metapackage, libaudio-dev failed downloading, what to do?05:48
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DocTomoeHow can I enforce a version, even if its dependencies are somewhat broken?05:53
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Yonjpatrick, im having troubles installing sumthing, its not working out, u think u could help me?05:55
Yonnvm...05:55
Blissexs_spiff: retry, probably the mirror was busy or something like that.05:56
jpatrickyep?05:56
Yonhehe :) jpatrick im having trouble configuring it05:57
Yonchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!05:58
jpatrickinstall: libx11-dev05:58
jpatrick!info libx11-dev05:58
Yonjpatrick, i have it installed05:59
jpatrickYon: make sure you configure with the --prefix=/usr flag05:59
jpatrickthat's odd05:59
Yonoh, i didnt05:59
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Yoni added that and i got a very diffrent error06:00
jpatrick?06:00
Yoncan i plz paste 3 lines?06:01
jpatrickno06:01
jpatrick2 max06:01
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jpatrickwhat is it?06:02
Yonchecking build system type... Invalid configuration `flag': machine `flag' not r                ecognized06:02
Yonconfigure: error: /bin/sh admin/config.sub flag failed06:02
Yonthere the last 2 lines06:02
Yoni dont think the first is important06:02
jpatrick:/06:02
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jpatrickit's: "./configure --prefix=/usr"06:02
Yonit says confiure warning use --build, --host --target06:02
Yonor sumthing like that06:02
jpatrickI'm not sure06:03
Yonoh ye now its working06:03
Yonok, i got the same error as my first06:03
Yoncheacking for x.....06:04
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MadeyeHi,06:04
jpatricklo Madeye Moody06:04
MadeyeI have problem with k3b, actually it's new laptop install, 'CDRecord has no permission to open the device'.'You may use k3bsetup2 to solve this problem'06:05
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Madeyek3bsetup is running, but I don't know what I have to do :-)06:06
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Yonif i dont config cant i still compile?06:08
jpatrickYon: it won't let you compile if you don't06:09
abotDoes anyone know the expected release date for Dapper?06:09
jpatrick!dapper06:09
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.06:09
abotGreat, thx!06:10
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Madeyeanyone can help with the mentioned cdrecord problem06:11
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BlissexMadeye: you need to put your user in the 'cdrom' group, it is a FAQ06:14
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MadeyeBlissex, where I can find that FAQS06:16
BlissexMadeye: usually on the Ubuntu Wiki06:16
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jpatrick!docs06:21
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, docs is an index of documentation on the Ubuntu Wiki - you can find it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation06:21
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_mikelop06:24
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thegladiatorhi06:26
gregusvan valaki magyar?06:26
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dandielionousHello06:29
dandielionousI was wondering does kubuntu have something like a registry.06:29
dandielionousWhere programs have to write to regedit.06:30
jpatrickdandielionous: like Windows registry?06:30
dandielionousyes06:30
dandielionousty for answering jpatrick06:30
jpatrickhmm... APT database?06:30
dandielionousI don't know.06:30
dandielionousI know linux is structured differently.06:31
dandielionousI don't really think it has something like a registry.06:31
jpatrickAPT database is where all the programs are recorded06:31
dandielionousCan a program write to that like spyware?06:31
dandielionousA program outside of myself.06:31
thoreauputicdandielionous: it would be better to say what you want to achieve - someone might help with that - and no, spyware isn't an issue in Linux06:32
dandielionousOkay.06:32
dandielionousSorry.06:32
dandielionousJust was fishing for information.06:32
dandielionousty for the help.06:32
thoreauputicno need to apologise - it was a suggestion to help you with your questions :)06:32
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brodelcan anyone help me with this?06:36
brodelrror: "/var/tmp/kdecache-brodel" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.06:37
brodelLink points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"06:37
brodelkate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.06:37
brodelI tried to run sudo kate to edit the smb.conf06:37
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iamhs_Where can i find information about hardware support? wondered if kubuntu/ubuntu supportes my main system? (running on a live cd atm)06:39
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steve44https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport06:41
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iamhs_thanks06:42
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iamhs_another quick question, is that hardware list an overview of supported or unsupported ?06:44
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jpatrickhey kkathman06:55
kkathmanhowdy jpatrick :)06:55
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skberaHello everyone.06:57
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dragonkhhi06:58
dragonkhanyone know where modules.conf lives on kubunti ?06:59
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dragonkhI cant seem to find one - I dont know where to add my lsmod modules so they load06:59
s_spiffhey just installed kde06:59
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skberaAnyone know how to defrag drives in Linux?06:59
s_spiff anyway to remove the GNOME stuff from the KDE Menu's?07:00
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dragonkhs_spiff: right click on the kde menu button and choose menu editor07:00
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s_spiffthats a long and tiresome process07:02
s_spiff I remove all kde stuff from gnome in something like 4 commands..07:02
s_spiff isn't there something like that for KDE?07:02
XavierGrIs there any way to have multi-view-modes in kde windows? (and save each mode for the window)07:03
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s_spiffI have to mount a certain partition everytime by the command : sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt07:05
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s_spiffis there someway I can do it everytime it boots up..as in it should be mounted automatically>?07:06
kkathmans_spiff: why?  just put that in your fstab07:06
s_spiffhow do I do that?07:06
s_spiff the partition is a fat3207:06
kkathmanmodify /etc/fstan07:06
kkathmanooops07:06
s_spiff and i want to write/read and execute..07:06
kkathmanI mean /etc/fstab07:06
s_spiffkkathman, you'll have to walk me through, I'm a noob at ubuntu...linux for that matter07:07
kkathmanis this your second drive or something?07:07
s_spiffand someone told me that I should mount the hda7 in the media folder07:07
XavierGror I think you can do that from the kde disk utility07:07
s_spiff so that i can creat a shortcut on the desktop07:07
s_spiffyeah..07:07
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kkathmans_spiff: you can do that too07:07
s_spiff its actually a master hdd..07:07
rickyhi07:07
s_spiff and I've installed ubuntu on slave07:07
s_spiff and I edit the bios07:08
kkathmanyou first whats called "create a mount point"07:08
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s_spiff to boot from hdd107:08
s_spiff instead of hdd007:08
kkathmans_spiff: ohh well thats a bit more complicated07:08
s_spiffhow to do that?07:08
kkathmanactually I am attempting to do the same thing07:08
s_spiffouu ok.07:08
kkathmanexcept I want to partition my 300GB drive to 2 partitions to be able to triple boot07:09
XavierGrcheck settings>administration->disk & filesystems07:09
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s_spiffwow07:09
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s_spiffwill try that07:10
kkathmanif you see Hobbsee on line  she can tell you how tho, she triple boots breezy, dapper and windows xp07:10
s_spiffXavierGr, there is no settings..07:10
s_spiffwher do i check that out?07:10
XavierGrclick the second icon on your start bar07:11
XavierGrand then click settings07:11
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s_spiffit says 'Desktop Access'07:11
s_spiffnot Settings07:11
XavierGruhh07:12
XavierGrin Kubuntu right?07:12
s_spiffno ubuntu07:12
s_spiff but in KDE07:12
XavierGrahh07:12
s_spiff installed KDE a few minutes back07:12
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XavierGrwait a sec to think07:13
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XavierGrs_spiff: type "settings:/" in konwueror07:15
s_spiffk07:15
DemostrikeCould anyone tell me is its possible to run/burn the kubuntu live cd from a USB hard drive?07:15
s_spiffok..then>?07:15
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XavierGrsystem administration07:16
XavierGrDemonstrike: it is possible I think, but I dont know how07:16
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s_spiffok07:17
Demostrikethanks XavierGr - does anyone else here have an idea on how to do it? Ive tried just extracting the iso into the HD root dir07:17
s_spiffXavierGr, system admin doesn't have anything for disk management07:17
XavierGrstrange? by kubuntu build has it07:18
XavierGrtry Kdisk then, but I am not sure07:18
s_spiffok07:18
s_spiff will try07:18
s_spiffttyl07:18
s_spiff thanks anyways man07:18
s_spiff have to go.07:18
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alejandrohi all07:31
alejandrohow can i change the image of kdm?07:31
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jpatrickLord_Athur: get another KDM theme?07:36
jpatrickand install it?07:37
Lord_Athurmmm07:37
Lord_Athurno07:37
Lord_Athurjpatrick,  i only want to change the photo or image visible with kde, the image that says "kubuntu" por another one07:38
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Lord_Athurjpatrick,  i only want to change the photo or image visible with kdm, the image that says "kubuntu" por another one.07:38
Lord_Athurthe last is right07:39
Lord_Athur:D07:39
jpatrickNot sure how....07:39
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Lord_Athurisn't there a directory with the photo file to change?07:40
jpatrickimage of what? KDM?07:40
jpatrick /usr/share/apps/kdm07:40
Lord_Athurthanks07:41
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os2macclear07:50
os2macdammit....07:50
os2macLOL07:50
os2macI have been at a command line to long07:50
os2macclear07:51
os2macfsck!07:51
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XavierGris it possible to have in KDE folders with different file view-mode?07:55
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JohnFluxHey all08:02
_kaenatHow can I find out what package a file on my system belongs to?08:02
jpatrickI forgot the command08:03
jpatrickdpkg-* somethings08:03
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_kaenatjpatrick: Thanks. I've been searching around those commands for a bit, and haven't found it yet.08:06
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deemohey everyone, how do i share a printer so that a windows machine can print off of it?08:20
sproingiesamba can share printers.  i think cups can do IPP too08:20
sproingieno idea what the click path is ... my printer doesn't even work under linux :(08:21
hussamIs Dapper development as aggressive as Breezy?08:21
deemoif i add a printer in cups through the Ssytem Settings screen, is it also made on samba?08:21
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sproingiehussam: yes, it breaks badly on occasion.  doing a global update in dapper is usually not wise08:21
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sproingiethey reorg packages in a way that can wedge apt if you update at the wrong time08:22
hussamsproingie: then I'm glad I decided to stick to breezy08:22
sproingiewise idea.  about a month before release is probably safe, but no sooner08:22
sproingiebackports takes care of a lot of things, tho firefox is still an irritating anachronism08:23
hussamsproingie: I'm using firefox from mozilla.org. I'm on the 1.5-2.0 nightlies.08:24
brodelI'm using 1.5 :)08:25
sproingieyeah but you probably didn't get it from apt08:25
sproingienot official anyway08:25
sproingiei can't really tell the difference.  it's the autoupdate feature of 1.5 that's the best08:26
sproingiei tend to use whichever of opera, konq, or firefox i flip to first08:26
hussamhussam: Igot it from ftp.mozilla.org. I also update every other day to the latest nightly ( but nit every night )08:27
hussamnot* every night08:27
sproingiei guess gnome has all kinds of library dependencies on gecko, and all those would have to be revved too08:28
hussamsproingie: konqueror is great but I never liked Opera.08:28
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sproingiei have mixed feelings about opera08:28
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hussamsproingie: Opera's interface is not much08:29
sproingiekonqueror is good except a) it crashes on google maps, b) it FLICKERS like crazy, c) kwallet sucks as a form filler08:29
jpatricksproingie: a) it doesn't here08:30
sproingieopera's keyboard navigation is also superb08:30
jpatrickYou have to set the agent for maps.google.com to Safari08:30
sproingiethe flickering doesnt seem to be as bad lately08:30
hussamI tried a couple of months ago to compile firefox with qt3 instead of gtk2 but it died half way through.08:31
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angasuleI want autocad for linux :(08:33
hussamangasule: same here. I'm willing to pay autodesk lots of money to make a linux version of AutoCAD08:34
sproingieautocad should be portable, i just dont think autodesk wants to spend on the platform support08:35
angasulehussam: it just doesn't make sense to have engineering apps on windows, which is engineering crap08:35
sproingielike "i'm running gentoo in a chroot with ~x86, and autocad won't work, waaah"08:35
angasuleautocad is very tied up with windows :/08:35
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hussamsproingie: true.08:36
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sproingiethey would probably standardize on something like redhat08:36
hussamangasule: It uses .net framework 1.1 ( I think )08:36
angasulehmm, I don't think 2005 does08:36
thegladiatorwhen will dapper be release for kubuntu08:37
sproingieautocad runs on .net?  whoah08:37
hussamI have autocad 200508:37
sproingiei always thought it was its own self-contained world08:37
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angasulesproingie: that sure isn't, it's full of IE crap08:37
thegladiatorwhen will dapper be release for kubuntu and is the flight cd stable ?08:37
thegladiatorfliht 2 ?08:37
sproingieangasule: that's not hard to switch at all.  firefox can implement IWebBrowse pretty easily08:38
jpatrick!dapper08:38
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.08:38
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hussamsproingie: It's compiled with VC++ 7.0/7.108:38
thegladiatorjpatrick, have you tried the flight 2 cd ?08:38
sproingiehussam: probably carries a lot of legacy code, like SEH08:38
angasuleI can't wait for diaper drake08:38
jpatrickyes08:39
sproingieactually doesn't gcc support SEH now?08:39
jpatrickangasule: what?08:39
hussam<angasule> I can't wait for diaper drake. Diaper Drake?08:39
angasuledapper drake, come on08:40
hussamangasule: I was only kidding.08:41
angasulediaper drake = dragon in diapers, still dangerous in nethack, though08:41
sproingiewould make a cute graphic08:41
thegladiatorhow is the flight 2 cd ?08:41
thegladiatoris it worth trying ?08:41
hussamsproingie: to tell you the truth, AutoCAD should be rewritten. 2005 takes to many resources and hangs too much.08:42
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sproingiemuffin, say hi to lunch08:42
joshisscifiwoot woot08:42
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thegladiatorfor the heck o f it I am goint to try gnome for a sec to see if I like it anymore :08:42
thegladiator:p08:42
thegladiatorkde is nice08:42
joshisscifiyou won't08:42
angasuleI hate pets, they eat my food08:42
thegladiatorlet me see08:42
thegladiatorbrb08:42
joshisscifithe dark side is powerful yes08:42
_law_|iBookany ideas why my kopete doesnt go into auto-away-modus?08:43
hussamwilll Dapper used xorg 7.0 ?08:43
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sproingienot the modular xorg, no08:43
sproingiedon't know the version numbers tho08:43
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hussamI just got OpenOffice 2.0.1 from people.ubuntu.com/~doko08:44
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jpatrickwb Mez08:45
Mezty08:46
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hussamangasule: Is there a program fro Linux that can edit dwg files?08:50
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angasulehussam: not that I know08:51
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hussamangasule: this is the area that Linux lack in, engineering software.08:57
angasuleit's unbelievable, really08:58
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knubbehussam & angasule: http://www.tech-edv.co.at/lunix/CADlinks.html09:06
knubbehussam & angasule: program that handles dwg-files: http://lx-viewer.sourceforge.net/09:07
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juifhola09:09
juifi just stuck a hard disk in this kubuntu box. its NTFS formatted. can this work ?09:09
joshisscifijuif: more info needed09:09
angasulejuif: kubuntu can read NTFS partitions09:09
juifokay09:10
angasulejuif: I don't think it'll write to them09:10
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joshisscifiNTFS write support is still experimental afaik09:10
juifwhat kind of more info is needed ? so far, i took the disk, stuck it in the computer, BIOS auto-detected it.09:10
juifi only want to copy the data on it to my linux drive09:10
juifthen i want to format it09:10
joshisscifijuif: ^^^^ thats the info that was needed09:10
juifand partition it for linux09:10
knubbejuif: do you know how to mount it?09:11
juifits a 40 gig samsung drive, fairly old.09:11
juifi do not know how to mount it09:11
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dsbonzosudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hddnumber /mountpoint <- right?09:12
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knubbesudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -o umask=022209:12
knubbeif your ntfs-drive is hda109:13
knubbejuif:  http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#hddmntman09:13
juifthere was already a drive in there, that i think was hda1/2&309:13
juifso i should write hdb ? or something ?09:14
neoncodeIs there any kind of sleep function on kubuntu?09:14
knubbei dont know what your new hdd is named09:14
juifhow can i find out ?09:15
dsbonzojuif: fdisk -l should list the corresponding drive labels and their filesystem types09:15
juifhdd109:17
juifmount point /mnt/windows does not exist09:19
joshisscifimkdir /mnt/windows09:20
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juifok09:20
thegladiatorXCHat is not a kde application ?09:21
sproingieit's a gtk application09:21
juifno error this time09:21
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joshisscifijuif: cd /mnt/windows09:21
joshisscifijuif: ls09:21
dsbonzoXchat = Gtk+ app, I thought.09:21
juifsweet09:21
juifit works09:22
thegladiatorso konversation is the thing for kde ?09:22
sproingiei use the qt-gtk theme engine, so it looks like kde.  til i pop open a file dialog anyway09:22
joshisscifikonversation rocks09:22
sproingiethose dont come up in irc that often tho09:22
juifcan i access that from within kde ?09:22
joshisscifijuif: yup, just navigate like you would any other folder09:22
juifcool09:22
juifthanks :)09:23
dsbonzojuif: you could add it to your /etc/fstab if you want it to mount everytime you boot09:23
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larsivithegladiator: I think XChat is an X app, neither KDE nor gtk09:25
thegladiatori see09:25
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thegladiatorXchat is considered better than Konversation ?09:25
thegladiatorXChat uses GTK theme atleast in my ubuntu system which has been loaded with kde09:26
cleoXChat is so bloated, bah ;)09:26
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thegladiatorcleo, which one do you use ?09:26
joshisscifilike I said.... konversation rocks09:26
joshisscifixchat had too much going on for an irc session09:26
thegladiatorinteresting perspectives09:27
cleothegladiator: konversation and irssi09:27
_thegladiatorhi09:27
dsbonzobitchx = not bad either, IMO.09:27
thegladiatorthats me in knversation ~09:27
thegladiatorkl09:27
_thegladiatori am on konv now09:27
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thegladiatorhi09:32
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florianhi there09:39
floriani have a problem with automounting of dvds09:39
thegladiatorcan some one suggest a cool font ?09:40
thegladiatori have been trying many I like deja Vu condensed09:40
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tocahola09:40
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florianafter installing breezy everything worked like expected09:40
tocahay algun espaol por aqui?09:41
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florianinserting a DVD resulted in opening konq and showing the contents of the DVD09:41
florianafter online Update this has changed09:42
floriankonq opens but it cannot mount the DVD09:42
floriandevice not found is the message09:42
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Florian-Tso what can i do?09:43
tocahello?09:44
cleo!es09:47
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:47
Florian-Tcan someone help?09:49
tocapero que como lo pongo eso?09:49
tocaes que soy novato09:49
kkathman!es09:49
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:49
thegladiatorcan we have the margin as we have in Xchat ? atfer username ?09:50
thegladiatorso that we can easily identify who is talking than this <> stuff ?09:50
kkathmanthegladiator: you might try Konversation in KDE09:51
thegladiatori am using konversation09:52
thegladiatori would like have to have that margin we have in chat09:52
thegladiatorafter user name09:52
thegladiatorif its possible09:52
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thegladiatorif you can understand what i mean09:52
kkathmanoh you said xchat09:52
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thegladiatoryes09:53
kkathmanthegladiator: I dont use either one actually :)09:53
_jonhey all i have a qeustion, i am a very new programmer,i am using 5.1.0 kubuntu and want a good coding program and how to install make compiler09:53
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kkathmanbut as I remember...I thought Konversation was fairly nicely formatted09:53
brodelanyone help as to why my USB drive doesn't show up when I put it into the PC?09:54
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kkathman!build-essential09:54
ubotukkathman: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!09:54
kkathmanahhh09:54
kkathmanpfft09:54
kkathman_jon  you'lll need to start by installing build-essential09:54
C-O-L-Tkkathman: hello09:54
_jonand how do i do that?09:55
kkathmanC-O-L-T: hi, please be sure to turn off your auto AWAY message.  You are in danger of being kicked if you dont09:55
kkathman_jon: sudo apt-get install build-essntial09:55
kkathmanthat will get you the basics for installation (i.e. the gcc etc)09:56
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C-O-L-Tkkathman: Yes I realized it is a stupid thing, I had to reinstall my konversation cause in other way I could not turn it off09:56
kkathmanok09:56
kkathmankonversation has an option just to turn it off or remove it09:56
C-O-L-Tkkhathman: yes I know09:57
_jonsudo apt-get install build-essntial what do i do with this?09:57
kkathmanbetter yet.. just dont type the /away :)09:57
kkathman_jon: that installs the basics for compiling09:57
C-O-L-Tkkhathman: now I don't have that option I think09:57
_jonyes but i dont know where to put it...? konsole?09:57
_jonoo run command?09:57
hussamknubbe: thanks for the link09:57
kkathman_jon it will put it in the right place09:58
kkathman_jon:09:58
kkathman!source09:58
ubotu[source]  to compile a source package, you first need to 'apt-get build-essential'. Some source packages have other dependencies, such as KDE or Gnome development libraries also.09:58
kkathman!gcc09:58
ubotuit has been said that gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'09:58
kkathmanhey there hussam :)09:59
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hussamkkathman: what's up?09:59
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kkathmanhussam: Im preparing to set up my machine for a triple boot :)09:59
calliehey kkathman10:00
hussamkkathman: cool, triple booting between what?10:00
TheGrimCan I ask for cedega help without getting flamed? noone is answering in there channel10:00
juifi only need one partition on the 2nd hard drive, i gather ?10:00
juifin fact, i dont know how to partition and format a hard disk10:00
juifhow do i partition/format the second drive in this thing ? (its now NTFS)10:01
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joshisscifiah the joys of Comp Sci10:04
joshisscifiwow.... I just realized how tired I am....10:04
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joshisscifiI kept looking at the window wondering why nobody had talked in the last.... 40 mins.... and then realized that the window had been scroll locked wayyyyy up there lol10:05
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_joneer ok thi "sudo apt-get install build-essntial" doesn't help me because i dont know where to put it10:05
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cleo_jon: open a console10:06
_jonok10:06
trappistI'm sure I remember a panel applet with a speaker icon that worked just like the volume applet in windows, but I can't find it.  anyone know what it's called?10:06
_jonok its installing now10:06
_jonthankyou10:06
cleotrappist: kmix? :D10:07
joshisscifiKate just became my favorite text editor10:07
trappistcleo: thought that was the mixer applet, but lemme see...10:07
cleotrappist: yes but there should be an option to display a little icon for volume10:08
trappistdoesn't seem to have that option10:08
trappistjust the 'channels' option10:09
joshisscifitrappist: under Configure10:09
joshisscifitrappist: Settings... Configure KMix10:09
trappistoh ok cool10:10
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_jonok10:10
trappisterr wait, there's only 'configure global shortcuts'10:10
_jonopened consoel and type sudo apt-get install build-essntial and downloaded wut ever that stuff was, now i dont know wut to do10:10
cleo_jon: what are you going to do?10:10
_joni want to program C++ and php10:11
joshisscifitrappist: wierd lol10:11
trappistwhat I have here is called 'sound mixer' in the applet list.  are we talking about the same thing?  no such entry there as kmix10:11
cleo_jon: you could try kdevelop as a nice IDE10:11
_jonbut i need a compiler?10:12
cleo_jon: you just installed one10:12
trappist_jon: you have a compiler if you installed build-essential.  you're looking for an ide10:12
trappistlike kdevelop10:12
_jonok10:12
_jonnow how do i get kdevelop10:13
trappistok, if I just run 'kmix' it appears in the panel.  cool.10:13
cleotrappist: uhm..my kde is in german else I would explain it to you10:13
_jonlol10:13
joshisscifitrappist: yup10:13
knubbe_jon: Adept10:13
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_jon=D ok10:13
_roberthcan someone give a example of the sources.list who works?10:14
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joshisscifi_roberth: All you have to do is comment out (#) the CD line, and uncomment out the rest10:15
thegladiatorwhen i click on a pdf it is openend in konqueror and not adobe . how can I  make it topen with adboe only ?10:15
_jonI can't find kdevelop in adept, is there something specific I should be looking undert?10:16
joshisscifi_jon: did you edit your sources.list file to allow the multiverse etc?10:16
_roberthdunno10:17
_jonprobably not...10:17
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thegladiaatorsomeone please10:17
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_roberthi found a a sources.list someone had ditributed on the web and i just deleted everything who stood as default in the file without backup.....10:18
trappistthegladiator: make a file type association for .pdf -> acroread10:18
joshisscifi_jon: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list10:18
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joshisscifi_jon: put # in front of the first line (deb cdrom), then do as the rest say, uncommenting out10:18
_roberthu mean me?10:19
joshisscifiboth of you lol10:19
thegladiatorthanks10:19
_roberthoh:P10:19
floriancan someone help me?10:19
p337Hi everyone... I am currently installing Kubuntu (5.10) on my laptop for the first time... and it locked up at the part when it says "Starting Hotplug subsystem"... Its been about 10 minutes... any ideas?10:19
joshisscifiw00t 10 mins left10:19
joshisscifilets gooooooooooooo steelers10:20
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damnhilhow do I execute a bash script in simulation? "Print  the  commands  that  would  be executed, but do not execute     them."?10:21
_jonjoshisscifi: like this? #deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted10:21
florianhelp! automounting does not work :(10:21
joshisscifiyup10:22
_jonjoshisscifi: #deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted10:22
_jonthat shows up in an errror10:22
callieto execute a .jar file i just need to chmod +x that file and then ./<nameofile>.jar yeah?10:22
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florianafter first update of system automounting of DVDs does not work anymore10:23
joshisscifi_jon: what do you mean error?10:23
floriankonq says it did not find the device10:24
p337this has never happened to anyone else before?10:25
_roberthjioshisscifi: ive removed all the comment lines and put # in the start of the cd-room but the none of the sources wont still work...10:27
joshisscifi_roberth: hmm, one sec10:29
joshisscifior not lol10:29
cleop337: mhh...you could try dapper ...got no other idea :)10:30
p337i already restarted... i didn't want to do this for fear of corrupting it... but it wasn't gonna do anything else10:31
p337...well that i knew of10:31
p337btw... what does dapper do?10:31
cleodapper uses hal and not hotplug10:32
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p337...also... never used linux in my life.... would that be a boot parameter10:33
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cleodapper is kubuntu 6.04 (unstable)10:34
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brodelwhen I installed kubuntu on my laptop with windows I got a grub menu to choose from.. when I did it on my PC, I didn't.. how can I get that?10:36
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cleobrodel: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and comment out "hiddenmenu"10:37
brodelwell I hit escape and it showed me the menu.. but there were no windows options :(10:37
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psykif i was to learn programming what would be the best way to start learning?10:38
cleoand you are ure you haven't killed your windows installation? :)10:39
cleo-ure10:39
brodelWell that's I guess part of my question :\10:39
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psykor what programming software should i start with10:39
brodelI installed it in a free partition just like I did on my laptop though.10:39
psykc++ pearl or ruby10:39
_jonyeah wut is better pearl or ruby10:40
_jon?10:40
brodelI want to learn some programming language that can be used on all systems. Not just windows or linux.. thought about java for a while since you can do the RJE10:41
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florianhi there10:42
cleojava is a good way to learn OOP and to get programming experience10:42
floriananyone here who can help me?10:42
cleo!anyone10:42
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>10:42
kkathmanbrodel:  I would suggest that you try Python, seeing that is probably more apropo in Linux10:43
florianok10:43
joshisscifibrodel: but if you are wanting cross-platform ease, Java ;)10:43
florianmy DVD media doesnt get automounted10:44
kkathmanJava is losing a following overall10:44
floriansome days ago i heard this is a known problem10:44
joshisscifisays who? lol10:44
kkathmanand python is very cross platform now10:44
kkathmanalso, its Open Source :)10:44
_jonhey i was wondering id someone could explain to me how to compile my C++?10:44
brodelI've never heard of python in windows10:44
cleokkathman: java is still a very good way to learn programming10:45
kkathman!compiling10:45
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware10:45
kkathmancleo, yes, but it has a more limited value ... why not learn something that is much more accepted now? Java was very popular 10 years ago in dev houses...not so much anymore10:46
joshisscifiumm.... wow10:46
sproingiekkathman: i defy you to show me where java is being significantly displaced10:46
_joneeer that really doesnt help me10:46
florianthis problem appeared when i updated my plain install of breezy10:46
brodelI just liked that azureus works everywhere you put it :)10:47
joshisscifi10 years ago java was really first being released10:47
joshisscifi1994 yes yes, but 1996 come on10:47
kkathmansproingie: I have 25+ years in software developments and sell to that community...would you like companies that have displaced Java in alphabetical order?10:47
joshisscifihow about a list of companies who gross > $100 a year lol10:47
sproingiekkathman: go for it10:47
kkathmanAbbot Labs, Caterpillar, Dell Computers, Eaton Corporation,10:48
kkathmanshould I go on?10:48
brodelskipped B10:48
sproingiei stand corrected, i did forget about asp.net10:48
kkathmanand those are I think significantly above $100/a year :)10:48
brodeloh F asp10:48
joshisscifiLOL10:48
joshisscifiYES!!! Palmer is down10:48
kkathmanBreed Automotive (for B's) hehe10:48
joshisscifivon oelhoffen is the man!10:48
kkathmanthese are just those I know cuz they are customers10:49
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psykhey whats the best way to get ruby if i run kubuntu10:49
Puaffkkathman: why do you think python is the best language?10:49
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sproingiekkathman: i'll give you .net shops ... when i see ror or django or zope or catalyst taking over, i'll eat my words10:50
kkathmanwell, I dont know if it is "the best", just that its very popular, and object oriented10:50
joshisscifipersonally... I think saying python is the best language is kinda like calling a bash programmer a serious programming expert10:50
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kkathmansproingie: geez no need to get hostile :)10:51
cleowell, though Java is not up to date anymore...and I really like python...I still think java is the best way for learning basic programming concepts10:51
sproingiekkathman: didn't mean for it to come off that way, sorry :)10:51
cleoI am not a programming expert though ;)10:51
sproingiedepends on what you define as basic programming concepts10:51
kkathmanjoshisscifi:  I think maybe you dont realize what python is all about tho...its a much more robust language than you might think10:51
sproingiethere's no elegant way to compose functions in java10:51
sproingiethere's not even first-class functions10:52
kkathmanbut hey...yanno its up to your own tastes .. whatever floats your boat10:52
sproingieand this is hardly the airy heights of theory here10:52
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Florian-T:( is there nobody who realy can help me with this problem?10:52
psykcan someone tell me how to get ruby10:52
sproingiepsyk: apt-get install ruby perhaps?10:53
psykin adept theres so many choices10:53
psyki guess i download ruby interface10:53
kkathmanpsyk: I think there is a ruby 1.6 something out there...but I dunno10:53
sproingiepsyk: oh yeah i forgot, debian does this dumb packaging job with them.  get them all.10:53
kkathman!ruby10:53
ubotukkathman: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!10:53
kkathmanpfft10:53
kkathmanubotu sometimes doesnt know everything :)10:53
ubotukkathman: I give up, what is it?10:53
psykbut still theres so many choices10:53
kkathmansee?10:53
brodelso, you're saying if I wrote something in python I could give it to someone who runs windows and some one who runs linux?10:54
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trekeAs long as you didnt use anything platform specific, yes10:55
trekebasically the same as with java or C#10:56
jobezoneand use multi-platform libraries as well, like QT, GTK, SDL, which all have python bindings (or whatever it's called).10:56
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Florian-Talso10:57
Florian-Twie ich gerade sehe, gibt es beide10:57
Florian-Tdosemu msste etwas lter sein10:57
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kkathmanhere's a good article (part 1 of a series) on python that was in the Linux Journal, if anyone is interested:  http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/879410:58
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p337in kopete, is there a way to make it so that it doesnt sort contacts alphabetically?10:59
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kkathmanand here's some interactive fun with Ruby :   http://tryruby.hobix.com/11:00
callieanyone know how i can see if dhcp is running on my box11:04
kkathmanthe ruby package is ruby1.611:04
jobezoneanyone ever used Alice?11:05
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jobezoneIt's a strange program - a 3d movie/game/thing maker which uses python as the language to interact with it.11:06
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jobezoneIt's targeted to new and novice users, and it's my only experience with python in my life. I was actually surprised when following the tutorials, and making the mini-movies, that after a while it says that we've been using python syntax all along. I was amazed, as it was a really simple language to use.11:07
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Blippewhy oh, why does xorg hit 50 user% when in kde on my 2GHz machine?11:10
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amigravewhen I'm dragging files in konqueror or ion the desktop, when the blue transparent square get's bigger the operation get slower, I've got this problem on all computers on which I installed kubuntu, is it a driver problem ?11:20
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trekeamigrave: You  need to make sure you have render acceleration enabled, if I'm remembering correctly11:22
fberettahello! help needed!11:23
trekeMy experience has been that if that isn't turned on ( or supported by the driver for your card), performance gets really bad when selecting items11:23
amigravetreke: I'm looking in Xfree log but I don't know what it should look like11:24
trekeDo you know what type of card you're using?11:24
amigravenvidia11:24
trekeWith the open source or closed source drivers?11:24
amigravetreke: but on my laptop it's i810 and the problem is the same11:24
amigravetreke: with closed source11:25
trekeok11:25
trekethat's easilly solvable11:25
amigravetreke: really ?11:25
joshisscifiyeah... I need to figure out the i810 hw accel11:27
trekeadding Option "RenderAccel" "true" to the  Device section of your xorg.conf should fix things up on the nvidia machine11:27
trekeIt's marked as experimental in the documentation, but I've had good luck with it11:27
amigravethanks I'll try it, I can't restart x right now but I'll give it a try11:28
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trekeIf your machine blows up or something as a result, give me a 10 minute head start before you come after me with the pitchfork11:29
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amigrave;-)11:29
trekeNo idea how to turn it on for the i810 though11:30
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fberettaAnyone has problems with live DVD 5.10 of Kubunto?. It fails uploading on my PC.11:31
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jobezonei810 is that the SiS videocard chipset?11:34
trekeintel11:35
jobezoneah ok11:35
jobezoneI have different machines, one with that, and another with a on-board videocard which uses the sis driver, and I keep thinking they're the same ones.11:36
joshisscifiI'm too tired to google it lol11:36
joshisscifiI will when I wake up though11:36
joshisscifiI'll spend probably an hour tomorrow figuring out my school's vpn11:37
jobezonejoshisscifi, remember to take a look at dri.freedesktop.org11:38
joshisscifik, tks11:38
joshisscifialright, sleep time11:41
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amigraveI tried renderaccel with i81011:52
amigrave(II) I810(0): direct rendering: Enabled11:52
amigrave(WW) I810(0): Option "RenderAccel" is not used11:52
ccc_how do i change the kde panel font color?11:55
fberettaAnyone has problems with live DVD 5.10 of Kubuntu?. It fails uploading on my PC.11:56
kkathmanfberetta: try the cd image then as an alternative11:56
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fberettakkathman, I got a CD image. Same problem. It say it is corrupted but if I try on the laptop it works.12:01
brodelfberetta: you mean when you try to install? You hit enter and it says it's corrupt?12:02

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