[12:02] <callie> or scroll up rather than constantly requesting the same link
[12:02] <osh_> callie: no need. I got the info I wanted. so you get your break anyway.
[12:03] <callie> what about next time osh_ ?
[12:03] <kessler> Hmm, that wasn't a pleasent start for kubunto. It just crashed for no reason
[12:06] <osh_> callie: was it really that annoying? it's not like the channel is overflowing with other activity. but yes, I could have scrolled up a bit but was too lazy. next time I'll ask someone to !tell me about it instead.
[12:06] <kessler> If the root is locked in kubunto, how do you install new packages?
[12:06] <Hobbsee_away> kessler: using sudo
[12:07] <Hobbsee_away> kessler: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:07] <kessler> meh, konquerer crashes every time i try to open the link =/
[12:08] <Hobbsee_away> osh_: if you ever go into #ubuntu and do that, or here when it's busier, it certainly gets annoying - so we tell people not to do it on principle, just like pasting
[12:08] <jorik> is there a one button click backup solution for kubuntu?
[12:08] <kessler> 6 (SIGABRT)
[12:08] <Hobbsee_away> kessler: use w3m from a console or something?
[12:08] <Hobbsee_away> jorik: you might want to see konserv
[12:08] <jorik> okies, thx
[12:09] <Hobbsee_away> (it's a program, should be in your kmenu)
[12:09] <kessler> Hobbsee_away: i'd rather hear if anyone has a hint on how to keep konquerer from crashing?
[12:09] <Hobbsee_away> kessler: true - have you got the latest updates?
[12:09] <kessler> as said before, i've just installed ubunto, with the newest cd image from the website
[12:10] <kessler> i logged in, started irc, and here i am
[12:10] <Hobbsee_away> kessler: breezy or dapper?
[12:11] <kessler> uhm, no idea really. uname -a : Linux kessler 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:11] <Hobbsee_away> kessler: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:11] <Hobbsee_away> then try again, once all of that is done
[12:11] <Hobbsee_away> the password it asks for is the one you set at installation
[12:12] <kessler> ah, wicked
[12:12] <Hobbsee_away> now, i'm really going to be away now - back in a bit
[12:12] <C-O-L-T> !javadeb
[12:12] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[12:12] <kessler> thx mate
[12:12] <Hobbsee_away> no problems
[12:13] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee_away: i can not download debs
[12:13] <thegladiator> there is no link to kcontrol from the menus ?
[12:13] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee_away: java debs
[12:13] <osh_> !tell C-O-L-T about javadebs
[12:13] <thegladiator> how do I open kcontrol from the menus ?
[12:14] <C-O-L-T> how can i remove all my firewall settings
[12:14] <C-O-L-T> so delete iptables
[12:15] <kessler> How good is kubunto at detecting hardware? I want to play quake4 (<3 for making mainsteam games for native linux) on my not-so-high-end box, so how big performance gains could i get from recompiling the kernel by hand?
[12:16] <cleo> 0,5fps? ;)
[12:16] <kessler> (Compiled kernels before, it wouldn't be my first time. But it is kindda time consuming, so if i could skip it, i would)
[12:17] <kessler> guess i'll skip it then
[12:17] <dandielionous> Ahhh ha ha ha  I've got my dictionary working.
[12:18] <dandielionous> I had to fall back on the terminal and use apt-get but I did it.
[12:18] <dandielionous> Yooo hooo.
[12:18] <dandielionous> lol
[12:18] <dandielionous> Now if I could just figure out how to get my music player working. :)
[12:19] <cleo> portable music player?
[12:19] <dandielionous> I just want to be able to listen to radio stations online on my desktop.
[12:19] <dandielionous> I think I've installed all the music players there are.
[12:19] <cleo> does amarok not work for you?
[12:20] <dandielionous> But sadly enough I can't get sound out of any of them.
[12:20] <dandielionous> I have kscd on here that will play cds.
[12:20] <dandielionous> I'm wondering if there is a conflict with amarok.
[12:20] <murph2481> alright quick question....
[12:20] <murph2481> every time i boot up i have to go to KDE control panel
[12:20] <murph2481> click on the wireless profile i want to activate, click activate
[12:21] <murph2481> then go to konsole and type sudo dhclient
[12:21] <murph2481> and then my wireless card is working
[12:21] <murph2481> how do i do that so it happens automatically when i start up?
[12:21] <dandielionous> That sounds like a pain.
[12:21] <dandielionous> cleo do you use amarok?
[12:21] <dandielionous> Sorry murph2481 I can't help your problem.
[12:21] <toko123> greetings
[12:22] <dandielionous> <<<<newbie
[12:22] <larsivi> dandielionous: I had to change the sink in amarok
[12:22] <murph2481> :( i mean it takes 30 seconds to do it....but just wondering if there was a way to set it up automatically
[12:22] <dandielionous> The sink?
[12:22] <murph2481> <<<<newbie as well
[12:22] <dandielionous> ;)
[12:22] <cleo> dandielionous: got kubuntu on my notebook, I don't need sound/music here
[12:22] <larsivi> dandielionous: the backend, sortof
[12:23] <murph2481> dandielionous XMMS worked for me
[12:23] <jorik> kessler, optimizing does make a diffrence, more so if you patch your kernel with the right patchsets ... i havent bothered with that in years tho because stock kernels are usually stabler
[12:23] <dandielionous> larsivi: do you know if amarok has conflicts with kscd?
[12:23] <dandielionous> I'm at the point of uninstalling all my music programs and starting over.
[12:23] <murph2481> amarok doesn't work for me either....
[12:23] <dandielionous> I can't tell if I have conflicts.
[12:23] <kessler> jorik: I see. Well, not much point in having a super fast gaming setup that only works for 10 mins at a time.
[12:23] <larsivi> dandielionous: don't really think there are conflicts, but I have in general problems with arTs
[12:24] <kessler> guess i'll take my chances with the preset one
[12:24] <jorik> true :-)
[12:24] <larsivi> changed it to one the others (gstreamer?)
[12:24] <toko123> I'm trying to add a shortcut application link to my Kde launcher I can get it to execute from the command line but it gets stuck from the launcher I've tried konsole -e java-jar /foo/foo/foo.jar the launcher opens a java console and times out
[12:24] <dandielionous> I tried XMMS, Xing, jukebox, amarok, kscd,
[12:24] <dandielionous> and more
[12:24] <murph2481> yuk
[12:24] <dandielionous> What is gstreamer another program?
[12:24] <jorik> you can always multi boot with windows for games, thats what i do ... except for ET
[12:24] <jorik> ET ROX !
[12:24] <cleo> !gstreamer
[12:24] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, cleo
[12:24] <cleo> hm :)
[12:25] <cleo> I think its a sound framework
[12:25] <thegladiator> can i adjust the services that are intializd during boot up?
[12:25] <dandielionous> larsivi: Do you have a program that is actually working for you?
[12:25] <cleo> thegladiator: update-rc.d
[12:25] <larsivi> Amarok
[12:25] <dandielionous> oh ok
[12:26] <dandielionous> And sound comes out of your speakers?
[12:26] <dandielionous> <<<<doh slaps head  the man just said it worked for him.
[12:26] <murph2481> alright another question...i have dapper flight 2 installed...so when they release something new...will i have to upgrade everything?....or will Adept upgrade get it for me?
[12:26] <cleo> dandielionous: try installing gstreamer0.8-mad and try amarok again then
[12:26] <dandielionous> Okay and in laymans tongue larsivi what did you have to do to make it work?
[12:26] <murph2481> basically do i have to download the ISO and reinstall?
[12:27] <dandielionous> okay.
[12:27] <murph2481> or can i just upgrade through adept?
[12:27] <cleo> murph2481: I don't use adept, but apt-get dist-upgrade works well for that
[12:27] <larsivi> dandielionous: I changed the backend somewhere in the Amarok settings (and making sure it was installed using Adept)
[12:28] <murph2481> cleo: ah so i can upgrade i dont have to reinstall
[12:28] <murph2481> cleo: good thats what i wanted to hear :)
[12:28] <cleo> murph2481: yes, of course
[12:28] <dandielionous> I installed it using synaptic.
[12:28] <murph2481> cleo: few i was going to be pissed i have got all my settings the way I like them
[12:28] <murph2481> and finally got galleon running for my tivo :)
[12:29] <_kessler> Hmm... It seems like konqueror crashes every time i try downloading something. And it takes down the whole system in the fall =/
[12:30] <callie> anyone here have a good understanding of networking using crossover cables?
[12:30] <_kessler> and it still happends after i updated my packages
[12:30] <murph2481> _kessler: i downloaded firefox
[12:31] <dandielionous> dang I installed gstreamer but now I can't open amarok.
[12:31] <dandielionous> grrrrr
[12:31] <dandielionous> lol
[12:31] <cleo> dandielionous: strange
[12:32] <Voodoo_Vibe> when i try to start XP it says there is no operating system, and if i start with XP cd i can see that the filesystem on C: in labeled "Unknown" but i can access it through Linux and watch the movies and all.... tried to do a Fixmbr from Win xp cd... but no luck! what can i do??
[12:32] <dandielionous> I'm trying xine.
[12:32] <dandielionous> buffer, buffer buffer and no music.
[12:32] <Tm_T> Voodoo_Vibe: stop using XP ?
[12:33] <cleo> dandielionous: try amarok --engine gstreamer   in console
[12:33] <Voodoo_Vibe> Tm_T: my lady wont allow that, believe me i tried!
[12:33] <Tm_T> Voodoo_Vibe: believe me if you hide all XP install cd's he have to use to it =)
[12:34] <dandielionous> okay amarok opened now.
[12:34] <Tm_T> dandielionous: I use gstreamer with amaroK
[12:34] <dandielionous> type that in a terminal?
[12:34] <Voodoo_Vibe> Tm_T: yeah, thats a good idea! lol
[12:34] <dandielionous> I don't understand exactly what gstreamer is.
[12:34] <dandielionous> It helps amarok work better?
[12:34] <Tm_T> dandielionous: it's similar to xine
[12:35] <dandielionous> I'm just trying to get something that will work.
[12:35] <dandielionous> I don't know any of these programs.
[12:35] <cleo> dandielionous: does it work now?
[12:35] <dandielionous> testing
[12:35] <larsivi> gstreamer is the thingy that does the real playing, amarok is just a graphical wrapper with some additional organizational goodies
[12:36] <murph2481> Voodoo_Vibe - make a CD in linux using K3B and reformat and reinstall windows
[12:36] <dandielionous> OMG it's working.
[12:36] <dandielionous> I have SOUND!
[12:36] <dandielionous> lol
[12:36] <dandielionous> ty so much
[12:36] <dandielionous> I feel myself again!
[12:36] <cleo> hehe
[12:37] <dandielionous> So the trick is install amarok and then gstreamer...
[12:37] <dandielionous> I've got to remember this.
[12:37] <larsivi> or you could fix arTs
[12:38] <dandielionous> I never used windows media player much.  It would start to play and then I couldn't hear anything because it would always stop and buffer.
[12:38] <cleo> dandielionous: gstreamer is installed by default, you just installed restricted formats support
[12:38] <dandielionous> I couldn't use any other players.
[12:38] <cleo> for mp3 and stuff
[12:38] <dandielionous> Ohhhhhhhh I get it.
[12:38] <C-O-L-T> how can i disable all my iptables?
[12:38] <dandielionous> So now I need to really learn what mp3s are.
[12:38] <dandielionous> I can get into the music part of it now.
[12:38] <dandielionous> Just like the big kids.
[12:38] <dandielionous> hehehehehe
[12:38] <FuSiOn`> my q4 won't start :(  I already got past the whole libsdl stuff, now it flies by that I get sound and no video :(
[12:38] <murph2481> dandielionous: are you serious about the MP3 comments?
[12:38] <cleo> C-O-L-T: flush your rules
[12:38] <FuSiOn`> there is nothing in the console that remotely seems to tell me whats wrong
[12:39] <FuSiOn`> no errors or anything :\
[12:39] <dandielionous> I've never messed with the music part much.
[12:39] <C-O-L-T> cleo: how?
[12:39] <dandielionous> I think mp3 is not a wave file but not a cd.
[12:39] <dandielionous> But it's music.
[12:39] <murph2481> danldielionous: what do you want to know
[12:39] <cleo> C-O-L-T: iptables -F <chain>
[12:39] <murph2481> danldielionous: MP3 is just a compression format for typically music
[12:39] <dandielionous> Weeeelll do mp3 takes less space on the hard drive?
[12:39] <cleo> dandielionous: its compressed music, all stuff humans cannot hear are stripped
[12:40] <dandielionous> mmmmm understood.
[12:40] <murph2481> danldielionous: it is probably the best/most used compression for music
[12:40] <dandielionous> Does it take less space?
[12:40] <murph2481> then what?
[12:40] <dandielionous> Aren't mp3 the ibm version of music files for a portable music player?
[12:41] <cleo> at least ~10 times fewer than wave files (uncompressed, that stuff you got on an audio cd)
[12:41] <dandielionous> Like ipod but for ibm?
[12:41] <crimsun> mp3 is platform-independent
[12:41] <murph2481> danldielionous: mp3's are for any platform
[12:41] <dandielionous> Is that what people are loading off the internet?
[12:41] <dandielionous> Or downloading?
[12:41] <cleo> dandielionous: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mp3
[12:41] <dandielionous> Oh ty cleo . ::)
[12:41] <dandielionous> Sorry to be so slow.
[12:41] <murph2481> cleo: how do i get higher resolution settings for my desktop running dapper flight 2?
[12:42] <dandielionous> Showing my age.
[12:42] <murph2481> cleo: 1024 is the highest i want to go higher (19 LCD)
[12:42] <crimsun> murph2481: ask the bot about fixres
[12:42] <dandielionous> I can't believe I have music playing just like I read about it books.
[12:42] <murph2481> !fixres
[12:42] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:42] <cleo> murph2481: I configured xorg.conf manually...
[12:42] <dandielionous> Can I convert a cd to an mp3 format?
[12:43] <murph2481> cleo: thank you :)
[12:43] <cleo> dandielionous: you should use a free format like ogg vorbis for that
[12:43] <dandielionous> Okay great I'm going to read that link.
[12:44] <dandielionous> ogg vorbis...
[12:44] <Java_the_Hutt> dandielionous: yes you can, ther are softwares for it like lame
[12:44] <dandielionous> I've never heard of that.
[12:44] <dandielionous> Okay ty Java_the_Hutt
[12:44] <cleo> dandielionous: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[12:45] <dandielionous> I clicked it ty for the link cleo .
[12:45] <dandielionous> Since ya'll seem to know what you're doing I have another question.
[12:45] <dandielionous> I went to the weather site and clicked on the video but nothing plays videos on my computer.
[12:45] <dandielionous> Will amarok do that now?
[12:45] <murph2481> cleo: if i manully change xorg.conf and i screw up and am i screwed?
[12:45] <cleo> try kaffeine
[12:46] <dandielionous> Okay.
[12:46] <dandielionous> Well kaffeine is something else that don't work on here.
[12:46] <larsivi> dandielionous: amarok don't play videos
[12:46] <dandielionous> Maybe it will now with the gstreamer.
[12:46] <larsivi> dandielionous: I had to change the backend of kaffeine too
[12:46] <dandielionous> Do I need a Java plug in or something?
[12:46] <dandielionous> I hear that larsivi .
[12:46] <cleo> dandielionous: maybe you want to install gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[12:46] <larsivi> I'm using xine for kaffeine
[12:47] <cleo> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:47] <cleo> erghs
[12:47] <larsivi> And I had to install some codecs, but I found all I wanted in universe
[12:47] <cleo> @ murph2481 :)
[12:47] <dandielionous> I installed multiverse.
[12:47] <dandielionous> But I haven't checked for any gstreamer plugins.
[12:48] <dandielionous> I'm using synaptic but I notice it doesn't seem to know everything.
[12:48] <larsivi> If I remember correctly, there were some conflicts with some plugins for some of the stuff
[12:48] <dandielionous> I had to install gstreamer0.8-mad through my terminal window.
[12:48] <larsivi> And one of the players worked, but the sound lagged to much
[12:48] <larsivi> 'think it was gstreamer
[12:50] <dandielionous> I wrote all that down cleo .
[12:50] <dandielionous> I don't seem to be having lag larsivi .
[12:50] <larsivi> good for you :)
[12:50] <dandielionous> I'm a little scared of messing with something that's actually working.
[12:51] <larsivi> Could have been a badly encoded film, it was home made
[12:51] <cleo> dandielionous: I forgot to mention gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg ...If you installed these 3 packages you should be able to play a lot of formats
[12:51] <dandielionous> Well I can't play videos yet.
[12:51] <dandielionous> Okay so I should install all of those cleo?
[12:51] <cleo> I did
[12:52] <dandielionous> cleo will that mess up my success I'm having at this point?
[12:52] <cleo> dandielionous: you cannot play windows media video files though :D
[12:52] <larsivi> dandielionous: FYI, it was when watching movies, the sound lagged, not synching with the lips of the actors
[12:52] <cleo> dandielionous: no
[12:52] <dandielionous> I don't have any windows media files.
[12:53] <dandielionous> I'm pure kubuntu.
[12:53] <dandielionous> Except for a little gnome.
[12:53] <dandielionous> hehehe
[12:53] <dandielionous> I use gaim.
[12:54] <dandielionous> Okay all those commands are apt-get install cleo?
[12:54] <cleo> dandielionous: yup easiest way imo "apt-get install packet1 packet2 packet3 packetN" ;)
[12:54] <dandielionous> You have to have commas in there?
[12:55] <dandielionous> Here I go.
[12:55] <dandielionous> GEtting ready to try it.
[12:55] <cleo> no...but thats all stuff you can try on your own...apt will complain if you do something stupid :D
[12:56] <dandielionous> Well I'd rather be told I'm wrong than have my computer messed up.
[12:57] <toko123> still stuck after reset x
[12:57] <cleo> toko123: what do you mean with stuck?
[12:57] <toko123> please vrify theis syntax konsole --noclose -e bash -c java -version?
[12:58] <toko123> the launcher opens a different version of java then the panel
[12:58] <stefano> hey dudes
[12:59] <stefano> i need a program or a script for finding out my cpu-temerature
[12:59] <toko123> the panel picks up the env PATH defined in .bashrc
[12:59] <toko123> the laucher appers not to use .bashrc for it's PATH env
[12:59] <cleo> toko123: sudo update-alternatives --config java  doesn't help you?
[01:00] <stefano> anyone?
[01:00] <toko123> cleo, thanks I'll try it
[01:00] <cleo> stefano: try acpi -V
[01:01] <cleo> stefano: else take a look on lmsensors
[01:01] <stefano> No support for device type: thermal
[01:01] <stefano> thanks
[01:02] <cleo> im off, bye :)
[01:02] <dandielionous> Okay I installed everything.
[01:02] <toko123> cleo, actually I want to use a different version than is already defined in the alternatives
[01:02] <dandielionous> And he just left.
[01:04] <dandielionous> Okay amarok is still working.
[01:08] <Lord_Athur> hola a todos
[01:09] <ilba7r> !es
[01:09] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:10] <Lord_Athur> hi all
[01:10] <Lord_Athur> ilba7r, it was only a mistake
[01:10] <Lord_Athur> :S
[01:11] <ilba7r> hi Lord_Athur, :)
[01:11] <Lord_Athur> :P
[01:11] <dandielionous> When I go here: http://www.wlbz.com/ and click on the weather video it don't play.  Do I need a java plug in?
[01:12] <Lord_Athur> dandielionous, are you spanish, really?
[01:12] <dandielionous> No I am not speaking spanish does it look like I am?
[01:13] <Lord_Athur> no, it doesn't
[01:13] <Lord_Athur> :P
[01:13] <Acidic32> whats the package manager called
[01:13] <Lord_Athur> jejeje
[01:13] <Acidic32> in ubuntu
[01:13] <brodel> synaptic
[01:13] <dandielionous> Oh okay scared me for a minute there.
[01:13] <Lord_Athur> Sypaptic
[01:13] <brodel> kubuntu it's adept
[01:13] <Lord_Athur> Synaptic :D
[01:13] <dandielionous> Do we have to add java plug in for kubuntu?
[01:13] <Acidic32> ok
[01:14] <brodel> dandielionous: yes
[01:14] <Lord_Athur> dandielionous, yes
[01:14] <dandielionous> ty ty appreciate the response.
[01:14] <Lord_Athur> :P
[01:14] <dandielionous> Do I do that through apt-get?
[01:14] <dandielionous> Or synaptic?
[01:14] <brodel> doesn't matter
[01:14] <brodel> they both do the same
[01:14] <dandielionous> Okay ty ty again. :)
[01:15] <dandielionous> I speak a little spanish Lord_Athur .
[01:15] <dandielionous> But don't tell anyone. :)
[01:15] <slow-motion> n8
[01:16] <Lord_Athur> :D
[01:17] <Lord_Athur> dandielionous, did you get the plugin?
[01:17] <dandielionous> No I haven't yet.
[01:17] <dandielionous> It's confusing in synaptic.
[01:17] <dandielionous> What is the command in apt?
[01:17] <Lord_Athur> mm
[01:18] <dandielionous> I don't know if I should add everything that comes up in synaptic or not.
[01:18] <Lord_Athur> dandielionous, you can download it from my page
[01:18] <dandielionous> java plugin didn't come up.
[01:18] <dandielionous> That's kind but that's a struggle for me too.
[01:18] <dandielionous> I need to learn how to do it in my programs that I have.
[01:18] <Lord_Athur> dandielionous, you've to download the .so file and paste it in the plug directory
[01:19] <Lord_Athur> it's waht i did
[01:20] <dandielionous> I have a bunch of choices in synaptic I think I found the right one.
[01:20] <dandielionous> Or I'll just install them all.
[01:20] <dandielionous> I have lots of space.
[01:20] <Lord_Athur> then, install all
[01:20] <Lord_Athur> :P
[01:20] <dandielionous> :)
[01:22] <kujeger> what's a good kde ftp program with a gui?
[01:24] <dandielionous> Installing, installing.
[01:26] <dandielionous> download rate 273kbs
[01:27] <brodel> kujeger: I have used gftp.. worked fine for what I needed.
[01:28] <rance> when I start firefox its homepage is set to a local file called "/usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html" and that is missing from my system, what package is it in?
[01:28] <kujeger> brodel: thanks, I'll try it.
[01:28] <m0ns00n> brothel: thanks, I'll try it.
[01:29] <rance> never mind, I found it
[01:29] <dandielionous> lol @ rance
[01:29] <rance> dont you just love the adept search
[01:29] <jorik> whats /dev/kmem ?
[01:30] <dandielionous> yes rance
[01:30] <dandielionous> I'm using synaptic.
[01:30] <dandielionous> I like it better.
[01:30] <rance> oh yea
[01:30] <rance> ok
[01:30] <dandielionous> I just love kubuntu.
[01:31] <hawking> I have kubuntu and Kde 3.5 and I want to disable my synaptics touchpad.I tried everything with the xorg.conf file but doesn't work... what may be the problem?
[01:31] <rance> well, Ive been around linux for several years, but so far kubuntu is the best distro going, and ive used mandrake/mandriva fedora, centos, slackware, and even gentoo
[01:31] <tictric> what is everything?
[01:32] <dandielionous> have you hard of xandros rance?
[01:32] <dandielionous> Sorry hawking I would help if I could.
[01:32] <m0ns00n> tictric: follow the white killer rabbit with big sharp bloody teeth
[01:32] <ProtectYaNeck> should my internet connection work when using a live cd?
[01:32] <rance> yea, ive heard of it, I think thats the one that is supposed to look much more like Windows, and dont they charge for it?
[01:32] <dandielionous> yes ProtectYaNeck
[01:33] <hawking> tictric : I've put Option SHMConfig "true" to xorg.conf and tried to configure usinh synclient but still got Shmconfig disabled? error although I rebooted that didn't change and then I just removed all the lines about synaptics from xorg.conf and it didn't make any change again
[01:33] <_ubuntu> how do i mount hdc1 with access for all in konsole
[01:33] <_ubuntu> ???
[01:33] <ilba7r_> ProtectYaNeck, with ether net yess. with wirless most probably no
[01:33] <ProtectYaNeck> dandielionous, any idea why it doesn't work with the live cd but works in xp?
[01:33] <ProtectYaNeck> this isn't wireless
[01:33] <dandielionous> I don't know but I've tried solaris, mandrake, mandrive, knoppix and I like kubuntu best rance.
[01:33] <dandielionous> Is it ethernet or wireless ProtectYaNeck ?
[01:33] <ilba7r_> ProtectYaNeck, if it is soft modem most probably no either
[01:34] <dandielionous> I think ilba7r_  knows more than me ProtectYaNeck .
[01:34] <ProtectYaNeck> I have a university dsl connection
[01:34] <_ubuntu> how do i mount hdc1 with access for all in konsole??
[01:34] <rance> I loved knoppix before 4.0, 3.9 was the last one I liked, and I still use it in a pinch to get stuff working, and its my preferred method of installing gentoo
[01:34] <tictric> hawking: As far as I can tell, if you remove the configuration for the touchpad from xorg.conf it won't be activated any longer.
[01:35] <dandielionous> knoppix got me started on the right path.
[01:35] <ilba7r_> ProtectYaNeck, was it autodetected when you ran the livecd and did it ask you to configure it
[01:35] <hawking> tictric : I did that already and it was activated
[01:35] <dandielionous> I tried to get lenox going for 3 years.  I downloaded solaris at least 3 times and tried to install.
[01:35] <hawking> I am just confused
[01:35] <ilba7r_> ProtectYaNeck, if not than you need to tweek if after installing ubuntu
[01:35] <ProtectYaNeck> it didn't ask for configuration
[01:35] <dandielionous> Lots of researching o the net rance then finally someone told me about Mandrake and that got me going.
[01:35] <dandielionous> And a friend gave me a knoppix cd.
[01:36] <_ubuntu> how do i mount hdc1 with access for all in konsole??
[01:36] <dandielionous> knoppix gave me the first taste rance.
[01:36] <rance> I think I still have a mandrake install book from like mandrake 3 or 4
[01:36] <_ubuntu> how do i mount hdc1 with read access for all in konsole?? im on live cd
[01:37] <dandielionous> I have Mandrake 10.1.
[01:37] <dandielionous> But rpms are too hard.
[01:37] <dandielionous> I like debians very much. :)
[01:38] <ilba7r_> i hated upgrading from one ver to another in mandrive from 10 to 10.1 broke everything here
[01:38] <ProtectYaNeck> also, are there any know problems with kubuntu and sata drives?
[01:38] <ilba7r_> !sata
[01:38] <ubotu> ilba7r_: What?
[01:38] <ilba7r_> mm ProtectYaNeck you should try the forums sorry never needed to install one
[01:38] <dandielionous> I know what you mean ilba7r_ .
[01:39] <dandielionous> I hope I don't have to do that kind of upgrading with kubuntu.
[01:39] <_ubuntu> !mount
[01:39] <ubotu> [mount]  the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[01:39] <_ubuntu> !windowsdrives
[01:39] <ubotu> [windowsdrives]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[01:39] <ilba7r_> dandielionous, upgrading from hoary to breezy was ok. fresh install is better but worked ok. If you do not install a lot of custom drivers you are ok
[01:39] <rance> I almost tried suse, and had debian installed at one time, but I didnt like one thing or another and Id decided that the two things that HAD to work, was a good upgrade and update systems
[01:39] <l0st1> !acroread64
[01:39] <ubotu> l0st1: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[01:40] <brodel> lol
[01:40] <dandielionous> Sounds good.  It takes so long to get everything running.  I hate to do a whole fresh install again.
[01:40] <_ubuntu> how do i mount hdc1 with read access for all in konsole?? im on live cd
[01:41] <dandielionous> It's taken me about 3 months since I wiped windows totally off my disk for me to get everything going again.
[01:41] <ilba7r_> dandielionous, nevertheless i heared dapper installation wil be harder so better have a seperate partition for your home directory
[01:41] <dandielionous> But that was because I was trying to learn linux at the same time.
[01:41] <l0st1> any ideas about acroread install for x64 systems?
[01:41] <dandielionous> What is dapper?
[01:42] <dandielionous> The newest version of kubuntu?
[01:42] <ilba7r_> dandielionous, the new ver of ubuntu
[01:42] <ilba7r_> new release
[01:42] <dandielionous> Gees it doesn't just automatically upgrade?
[01:42] <dandielionous> lol @ myself
[01:42] <rance> thats part of the reason I havent wanted to do lvm yet, I love the concept, but Ive got 4 partitions /boot, /swap, /, and /home
[01:42] <dandielionous> I don't have seperate partitions.
[01:43] <dandielionous> Maybe I should.
[01:43] <rance> the reason for the seperate partions is that if something goes wrong during an install your /home folders are all safe
[01:43] <rance> cause you are just mounting that and not formatting it
[01:44] <ilba7r_> rance but i wil not go so far to have seperate /boot partition
[01:44] <rance> one bad manrake install a couple of years ago taught me that
[01:44] <dandielionous> I'm not really saving anything to home folders.
[01:44] <dandielionous> I have some things like documents and pictures.
[01:44] <dandielionous> But the rest is effecting the whole system like the java plugins.
[01:45] <dandielionous> If it's anything I really want I usually back up to floppy or cd.
[01:45] <ilba7r_> seperate swap and home. home so i do not loose my data. swap so i can run more than one distro if i want to experiment
[01:45] <dandielionous> I need a jump drive.
[01:45] <rance> ilba7r a seperate boot partition is a trick that I picked up from the gentoo, linux from scratch projects
[01:45] <dandielionous> ohhhhhh
[01:46] <mzelem> hello, anyone know the command to re-configure x?
[01:46] <rance> dandelionous: they are cheap enough
[01:46] <crimsun> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:46] <mzelem> k, thanks
[01:46] <dandielionous> Okay I just installed all the java plugins and still can't run the video.
[01:46] <dandielionous> I think I have to do a cold boot.
[01:47] <ilba7r_> cimsun wont dpkg -configure work too or is there a diff
[01:47] <dandielionous> I'll be back.
[01:47] <ilba7r_> !java
[01:47] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:47] <rance> why doesnt kubuntu have the configuration tools that come with Xorg anyway?
[01:47] <crimsun> ilba7r_: there is a difference. --configure runs postinst
[01:48] <ilba7r_> crimsun does that mean i can not run while x is running
[01:49] <ilba7r_> i mean run the command dpkg --configure
[01:49] <crimsun> ilba7r_: it's generally bad practice to do so, but you're free to do so
[01:50] <ilba7r_> crimsun, thanks for the information. I am just learning not jsut standing by an opinion. Thanks again
[01:50] <crimsun> np
[01:53] <l0st1> any ideas about acreread for x64, or i'm stuck with chroot stuff and 32 bit
[01:56] <ubuntu> how to i alter ownership for a folder??
[01:57] <l0st1> chown
[01:57] <l0st1> or try man chown
[01:58] <l0st1> !acroread
[01:58] <ubotu> l0st1: I give up, what is it?
[01:58] <l0st1> !pdf
[01:58] <ubotu> l0st1: Are you on ritalin?
[01:59] <rance> I've got a question about configuring apache2, I just installed it, and loaded up http://localhost in my web browser and I get a directory listing with the one directory in /var/www that actually has the apache default index stuff in it, why isnt the site configured correctly?
[01:59] <ubuntu> los1: how?? its the folder /mnt/win
[02:00] <ubuntu> i want read access for all
[02:00] <l0st1> is that monted from samba?
[02:00] <ubuntu> no konsole
[02:00] <l0st1> edit your fstab
[02:01] <ubuntu> lost1: im on live cd
[02:01] <l0st1> humm well not sure, don't want to break anything you could be doing since your running live cd and not install
[02:02] <ubuntu> lost1: ok, Thanx anyway
[02:04] <fridge> what are the stock keybindings for switching virtual desktops in ubtunu kde?
[02:06] <toko123> greetings
[02:07] <toko123> can I use the mplayer essential codecs with xine?
[02:07] <dandielionous> Okay my java plugin is working.
[02:07] <dandielionous> But I still can't get the video to play for the weather video.
[02:07] <decOding> how do I install KDE 3.5 on Kubuntu ?
[02:07] <dandielionous> Here is the message I get.
[02:07] <dandielionous> xine: cannot find input plugin for MRL [http://www.wtsp.com/includes/buildasx_oas.aspx?fn=http://wm.gannett.speedera.net/wm.gannett/wlbz/2forecast.wmv&sp=mms://wm.gannett.speedera.net/wm.gannett/wlbz/ads/credit_now.wmv] 
[02:07] <dandielionous> xine: input plugin cannot open MRL [http://www.wtsp.com/includes/buildasx_oas.aspx?fn=http://wm.gannett.speedera.net/wm.gannett/wlbz/2forecast.wmv&sp=mms://wm.gannett.speedera.net/wm.gannett/wlbz/ads/credit_now.wmv] 
[02:07] <dandielionous> input_http: http status not 2xx: >404 Not Found<
[02:07] <dandielionous> xine: found input plugin  : http input plugin
[02:08] <toko123> I'm trting to get xine to work on wmv file
[02:08] <dandielionous> Does anyone know what that means/
[02:08] <dandielionous> ?
[02:08] <decOding> found
[02:08] <dandielionous> xxine: cannot find input plugin for MRL
[02:09] <toko123> dandielionous, did you try the mplayer essental codecs?
[02:10] <dandielionous> I thought I fixed all those.
[02:10] <dandielionous> I'm not really sure.
[02:10] <dandielionous> I put gstream0.8 and all the plugins.
[02:10] <dandielionous> So amarok is working now.
[02:10] <dandielionous> What are essential codecs for mplayer?
[02:11] <toko123> hold on
[02:11] <dandielionous> I'm just trying to get things working here.
[02:11] <dandielionous> I have xine and kaffein.
[02:11] <dandielionous> I guess xine is taking over the default.
[02:11] <toko123> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html
[02:12] <dandielionous> What is that toko?
[02:13] <toko123> I'm asking are these codecs wokable in xine as there is no download for mplayer in hte repositories for ubuntu
[02:13] <dandielionous> I don't think I want to put mplayer on here.
[02:13] <dandielionous> That's windows isn't it?
[02:13] <toko123> I'm tring to view a wmv file all I get is audio so I know it;s a codec problem
[02:14] <dandielionous> Okay try this link toko.
[02:14] <dandielionous> http://www.wlbz.com/
[02:14] <dandielionous> And try the weather video.
[02:14] <dandielionous> On the left hand side.
[02:14] <toko123> no  I have mplayer on a freebsd and fedora box
[02:14] <dandielionous> See if it works on yours.
[02:15] <dandielionous> Still there toko123 ?
[02:16] <toko123> I've got the page what are you trying to see?
[02:16] <dandielionous> The weather video.
[02:16] <dandielionous> Under the weather heading it says: weather video
[02:16] <dandielionous> On the left.
[02:16] <toko123> on demand video forecast?
[02:17] <dandielionous> yes
[02:17] <dandielionous> video forecast you're right.
[02:18] <toko123> I get audio only
[02:18] <Spudchat> hi guys
[02:18] <dandielionous> OH ok.
[02:18] <dandielionous> So it's not just me.
[02:18] <Spudchat> any ideas on how to encode avi to dvd?
[02:19] <toko123> todd somebody
[02:19] <dandielionous> ty for checking that toko123 .
[02:19] <dandielionous> I wonder how to fix it?
[02:19] <dandielionous> At least you're getting audio.  That's more than I'm getting.
[02:19] <toko123> mplayer from source is my guess but I'll load the codecs and se if it makes a difference
[02:20] <dandielionous> kk
[02:20] <dandielionous> I thought xine or kaffein was supposed to be able to play those things.
[02:20] <FuSiOn`> I asked earlier, nobody said anything.  I'll ask again.  Quake 4 AMD64... its not the sdl error, I'm past that, however the game loads straight to a black screen, and I have sound
[02:20] <FuSiOn`> its odd
[02:21] <dandielionous> Is that a game for linux FuSiOn` ?
[02:21] <FuSiOn`> there is a linux binary..
[02:21] <FuSiOn`> all the other files I had to copy over.  I have no idea what the problem is, but my monitor goes amber, when it starts
[02:22] <FuSiOn`> I've created an autoexec.cfg as well, to make 100% that it starts in a compatible resolution
[02:22] <dandielionous> I didn't think we could play windows games in linux.
[02:22] <FuSiOn`> its not a windows game totally
[02:22] <dandielionous> oh
[02:22] <FuSiOn`> it is, but they released a linux binary
[02:22] <dandielionous> I wish Nancy Drew came in linux.
[02:22] <FuSiOn`> lol
[02:23] <FuSiOn`> I thought wine could do most of that stuff
[02:23] <dandielionous> I like Nancy Drew.
[02:23] <FuSiOn`> esp games that aren't as hardcore as q4
[02:23] <Ge0Ks> hi I wanna order the kubuntu, becouse I don't have internet, how I can?
[02:23] <xwolf-> you can't
[02:23] <dandielionous> I thought you could order some.
[02:24] <Ge0Ks> ohhh I think that yes becouse The ubuntu can order
[02:24] <xwolf-> you can order ubuntu, (with gnome), then you can install kde
[02:24] <FuSiOn`> I suppose you're asking us that question from an internet capable cell phone?
[02:24] <FuSiOn`> ;)
[02:24] <Ge0Ks> yasp
[02:24] <Ge0Ks> hehe
[02:24] <FuSiOn`> lol
[02:24] <Ge0Ks> but I really wanna the kubuntu :)
[02:24] <dandielionous> Gees what a world we live in.
[02:24] <dandielionous> Download it from your cell phone. lol
[02:24] <FuSiOn`> ubuntu is kubuntu and vice versa I thought, I think the only difference is gnome/kde
[02:24] <visik7> why runlevel tell me unknown ????
[02:25] <xwolf-> FuSiOn` you're right
[02:25] <xwolf-> BUT, you can only order ubuntu for now
[02:25] <FuSiOn`> :>
[02:25] <Ge0Ks> but the program?? what program have the kubuntu??
[02:25] <xwolf-> Ge0Ks you can try speaking spanish or portuguese... i can't understand your english very well
[02:26] <Ge0Ks> heehhe ok
[02:26] <Tm_T> !es
[02:26] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:26] <Ge0Ks> ke programa tiene el kubuntu ke no tenga el ubuntu?
[02:26] <xwolf-> Ge0Ks kubuntu tiene interface KDE, ya ubuntu tiene GNOME
[02:26] <xwolf-> ahora vete a #kubuntu-es
[02:27] <Ge0Ks> ahh ok estoy ahi
[02:27] <l0st1> !chroot
[02:27] <ubotu> it has been said that chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[02:27] <FuSiOn`> ubotu ahaha
[02:27] <ubotu> FuSiOn`: Do they come in packets of five?
[02:27] <FuSiOn`> .........
[02:48] <juif> weehoo
[02:49] <juif> this is a lot like windows
[02:49] <juif> can i make kubuntu behave like linux ? (text interface ?) from outside of kde ?
[02:49] <juif> ie: not in a window
[02:50] <hawking> windows? what is it?
[02:50] <visik7> it's only my impression or apt is slower in chroot ?
[02:58] <ndazza> juif: Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to a text-based login prompt, Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back to the gui
[02:58] <toko123> anyone using xine here?
[02:59] <juif> thanks, easy enough.
[02:59] <toko123> how do I get xnie to play .rm or .wmv files?
[02:59] <hawking> does anyone know configuring hotkeys of a laptop?
[03:00] <toko123> xine opens to all these tv stations and radio staions
[03:00] <toko123> nothing works
[03:00] <juif> could it be that internet (www) access is slower than with mozilla on a windows pc ?
[03:00] <juif> or is it just set all wrong ?
[03:01] <toko123> something as prosaic as media plugins set up wrong?
[03:02] <juif> what is my root password ?
[03:02] <juif> it never asked my opinion about it
[03:03] <`Nomad411> juif: it's slower browsing for me on Kubuntu for some reason, compared to windows
[03:04] <hawking> does anyone know configuring hotkeys on laptops? for example my fn+f12 button is written as "completed event "hotkey ATKD 00000030 000000ab" in /var/log/acpid how can i configure it so that it will turn the volume up in kde?
[03:04] <juif> can i install anything made for linux on this ? like, firefox ?
[03:05] <hawking> juif : what you have is linux
[03:05] <toko123> can someone recommend a multiverse mirror for 5.10
[03:05] <`Nomad411> juif: firefox is what I was talking about
[03:05] <toko123> I'm looking for mplatwre of kmplayer in the repository
[03:06] <toko123> right now i have main and universe
[03:06] <toko123> repositories
[03:06] <juif> oh, okay :)
[03:07] <juif> so, wtf is my root password ? :)
[03:07] <juif> it never asked me for one, how do i define it ?
[03:09] <`Nomad411> !root
[03:09] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:10] <l0st1> is chroot the best option for x64 computers?
[03:11] <fridge> WTF
[03:13] <fridge> l0st1: your question makes no sense to me. it's like asking is mount the best option for powerpc computers?
[03:14] <l0st1> i'm asking if there is any other options
[03:14] <`Nomad> I was worried that it was because regular shells were too fast on x64.. LOL
[03:14] <l0st1> that's the only one i know, so well knowing now that is it the only option then i guess i'll have to do it to install 32 bit things
[03:15] <ndazza> `Nomad: you mean they're not? damn! i've been chrooting my shells all this time... :p
[03:15] <`Nomad> woooooooooshhh  ..........------  BASH
[03:15] <fridge> you could run virtualised instances inside xen or something, but I'm not sure what it is you're trying to achieve
[03:15] <l0st1> acroread, shockwave, java
[03:15] <l0st1> to start with
[03:16] <l0st1> since none i can get in x64
[03:16] <fridge> I'm running 32-bit opera & flash plugins
[03:16] <fridge> on a stock 64-bit kubuntu install
[03:16] <ndazza> l0st1: perhaps a x64 distro isn't really necessary...
[03:17] <l0st1> ya maybe,
[03:17] <ndazza> i have an amd x64 and i run everything at 32 bit - there's no real performance increase for x64
[03:17] <inc|freaky> hi all. im trying to boot from the kubuntu live cd - breezy badger - but it hangs when it tries to load the hotplug subsystem - how can i fix that?
[03:17] <l0st1> just breezy 32bit then?
[03:18] <ndazza> l0st1: if it's a desktop PC you're looking for, that's what i'd recommend yeah
[03:18] <inc|freaky> its a Amilo M1347G Notebook im trying to boot it on.
[03:18] <l0st1> ya might be my easiest option, everyone was just talking ahh linux is so sweet since everything has 64 bit suport, and windows sucks cause it doesn't
[03:19] <l0st1> guess everything is messed up in that, other then mac
[03:19] <l0st1> well thanks, ndazza, maybe i'll head to 32 bit, since i've been reading as you said, there isn't much of a performance issue
[03:19] <ndazza> inc|freaky: google for the bootup options for ubuntu, there'll be a parameter like nohotplug or somethign you can pass to the kernel
[03:19] <inc|freaky> oh, what is hotplug for?
[03:20] <inc|freaky> do i need hotplug for usb memory sticks?
[03:20] <ndazza> l0st1: if you're running a database server then x64 is great... but for desktop it's a PITA :)
[03:21] <ndazza> inc|freaky: uh yeah i think so - not sure if it just handles automounting or if it sets up the devices and everything as well
[03:21] <ndazza> inc|freaky: i think it might be the latter
[03:21] <l0st1> ya i notice on vmware some off keyboard repeat delays, sometimes i can't even type things
[03:21] <inc|freaky> so without hotplug i cant mount my harddrive?
[03:21] <l0st1> something is a bit buggy.. and other odd things on kubuntu64
[03:22] <ndazza> inc|freaky: if it's a USB harddrive, then possibly not :)
[03:22] <inc|freaky> no its no usb harddrive
[03:22] <inc|freaky> but i want to be able to stick in my memory stick and save stuff on it
[03:22] <ndazza> inc|freaky: you don't need hotplug for internal drives
[03:22] <inc|freaky> awkay
[03:23] <inc|freaky> ill search for the bootoptions now ^^
[03:23] <ndazza> inc|freaky: ahh
[03:23] <inc|freaky> thx a lot :D
[03:23] <ndazza> inc|freaky: good luck! :)
[03:23] <inc|freaky> thx ^^
[03:24] <_tao> hey, I've got a pb, since I had run windows, when I try to run ubunto I just get a command line ubuntu. how could I get graphical environment ??
[03:26] <`Nomad> _tao: type 'startx' and then press ENTER to see if X will start
[03:26] <`Nomad> did you have it before?
[03:27] <_tao> no, I'm a beginner with linux
[03:27] <_tao> why does x doesn't load automaticaly anymore ??
[03:28] <`Nomad> did it before?
[03:28] <_tao> yeah
[03:28] <_tao> but that's true I had a lot of graphical pbs
[03:28] <`Nomad> and then you ran windows?  or installed windows?
[03:28] <_tao> no no, just ran windows
[03:28] <`Nomad> MS-windows?
[03:29] <`Nomad> Your system is a dual-boot?
[03:29] <_tao> yeah, I use windows xp and ubuntu
[03:29] <`Nomad> so XP was installed first, then ubuntu?
[03:29] <_tao> yeah, I knew that pb if I installed ubuntu before windows
[03:29] <`Nomad> ok, good..
[03:30] <`Nomad> well, if you are at the linux prompt, I assume that you can boot into either windows, or command-line ubuntu?
[03:30] <`Nomad> both work ok that way?
[03:30] <_tao> yeah
[03:31] <`Nomad> it's hard to tel lwhy it would suddenly stop from here..  Did you try running the command startx  like I said earlier?  What does it say?
[03:31] <boow> anyone have choppy mp3 playback in amarok
[03:32] <_tao> nope, I'll try it right now
[03:32] <boow> anyone have choppy mp3 playback in amarok
[03:32] <boow> i install beep media player they play fine in that
[03:34] <boow> hello
[03:35] <l0st1> boow on some mp3's i have the same thing
[03:35] <Steven_M> I need some help with konqueror please.
[03:35] <_tao> well, I don't understand anything ... now it works like before ... I restarted several time before but it didn't work ...
[03:36] <boow> i did a full upgrade with the backport stuff so that might have broke it so i will reinstall to see if that fixes it
[03:37] <fangorious> does konqueror have a feature similar to Firefox's "Open Bookmarks in tabs" feature
[03:38] <Steven_M> Can anyone here help me with Konqueror?
[03:38] <l0st1> s in what Steven_M ?
[03:38] <fangorious> Steven_M: be more specific
[03:40] <Steven_M> my flashplugin couses konquror to hang :(
[03:41] <fangorious> Steven_M: have you tried deleting and reinstalling it?
[03:41] <fangorious> (the flash plugin)
[03:43] <nightwatch> Hi there I need help.
[03:43] <inc|freaky> hi, me again. i cant find the bootparameter so kubuntu doesnt try to start the hotplug subsystem. does anyone know where i can get thatinformation, or knows what i have to write at the boot: prompt, when booting from the live cd? (breezy badger)
[03:44] <fangorious> nightwatch: what's the problem?
[03:44] <Steven_M> fangorious: yes
[03:44] <rance> !dpkg
[03:45] <nightwatch> I'd like to use kubuntu but I got some doubts, I have a new motherboard witch have some devices that were not deteceted by knoppix/kurumin/kalango I hope ubuntu can fix it. please what kernel version ubuntu uses? and there are any diference between live version and another one?
[03:45] <fangorious> Steven_M: ywhich plugin are you using? (official from macromedia, a packaged copy from a repoy, an open source one, etc)
[03:45] <rance> ok, one more for the worlds most asked question "whats the command to reconfigure X
[03:46] <ClayG> anyone here know how to change the MAC on a cable modem?
[03:46] <ilba7r> nightwatch, kernel is 2.6.10
[03:46] <inc|freaky> rance: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 i think
[03:47] <rance> some cable modems dont let you change that, for the ones that do, it will be in the modems advanced setup
[03:47] <ilba7r> xorg-server
[03:47] <inc|freaky> rance: or xserver-xorg
[03:47] <ilba7r> oh inc|freaky i think this is the right one what you typed last ya
[03:47] <Steven_M> fangorious: the official one
[03:47] <fangorious> Steven_M: have you tried a newer/older version?
[03:48] <nightwatch> I have the MB intel GAVL. the audio system is not deteced as well.. anybody has the same MB? did you get problem?
[03:49] <ilba7r> nightwatch did yo check the supported hardware on the website
[03:49] <ilba7r> is it a laptop for i got the link to laptop tested hardware
[03:49] <nightwatch> [ilba7r] : not yet, where can i find it?
[03:50] <ilba7r> nightwatch, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:50] <Steven_M> fangorious: I've only mangaged to find version 7 from the flash website
[03:50] <inc|freaky> grrr how can i disable the starting of the hotplug subsystem when booting from the live-cd because it keeps hanging there
[03:50] <ilba7r> nightwatch, and this is for the newest laptop testing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/
[03:51] <fangorious> Steven_M: is it crashing on every flash app, or just certain ones?
[03:51] <nightwatch> and about the live version and standard version, what is the diference, but the obvious, sure.
[03:52] <calidad> please... how I access to kubuntu-es?
[03:53] <sampan> calidad  type: /join #kubuntu-es
[03:54] <fangorious> calidad: maybe install language-pack-kde-es-base and language-pack-kde-es, then set the system language to spanish
[03:54] <sampan> heh -- i thought he meant on irc ;x
[03:55] <sampan> he or she
[03:55] <calidad> #kubuntu-es
[03:56] <Steven_M> fangorious: I've only tried to use the flash comoponent on one particular site (tvnz.co.nz) The website works fine using firefox and the same flash plugins but I really want to access the sites from Konqueror as well. Is there a flash package using apt-get instead of the flash plugin website.
[03:57] <sampan> steven_m  have you tried importing the mozilla plugin into konq?  settings --> configure konq --> plugins  -- i don't use flash, so not sure if that would work or not, but it might
[03:57] <nightwatch> the live version of kubuntu use the knoppix structure?
[03:58] <fangorious> Steven_M: I'm pretty sure there's an open source plugin somewhere, but probably not in the default repos. I don't think I had to manually import my firefox plugins, but you look at that (sampan's comment)
[03:59] <ilba7r> Steven_M, which firefox ver you are using
[03:59] <ilba7r> !flash
[04:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:00] <visik7> where can I find debian/ for kopete package ?
[04:01] <nightwatch> please, what the difference between live version and standard? (th live uses knoppix kernel?, )
[04:01] <ilba7r> visik7, kopete i in the reops i think it is installed by default. sudo apt-get install kopete
[04:01] <fangorious> nightwatch: live is a read-only bootable CD or DVD, to try it out without installing, or repair an existing, unbootable install
[04:01] <visik7> yes but I'm compiling dev-0.12 'couse 0.11 is buggy
[04:02] <Steven_M> fangorious: I went to configure konqueror > plugins and then clicked on the scan button to scan for plugins in the .mozilla folder, is that considered importing?
[04:02] <fangorious> Steven_M: yep, in the plugins tab next to the scan tab, is libflashpayer listed?
[04:02] <nightwatch> fangorious that's I know.. I have used a knoppix version for a long time, everytime I try to install, due to use knoppix packages the OS becomes too much instable
[04:03] <Steven_M> ilba7r: I am using firefox 1.0.7
[04:03] <ilba7r> visik7, i can not understand what you are doing. do you need the new deb for kopete or are you compiling from source
[04:03] <Steven_M> fangorious: yes
[04:03] <visik7> ilba7r: I'm compiling from source but I would make a package
[04:03] <ilba7r> Steven_M, than follow ubotu link. i think the package name is mozilla restricted
[04:03] <fangorious> nightwatch: I don't understand. do you mean you install kubuntu, then boot a knoppix cd and install packages off that?
[04:03] <ilba7r> !flash
[04:03] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:03] <nightwatch> I want ot install ubunto, of course whereas both version are the same, at all, I will choose the live for testing
[04:04] <Steven_M> fangorious: The flash application does load but then konqueror hangs after that
[04:04] <ilba7r> sorry Steven_M they changed the name of the old package i am using now. flash restricted or something like that
[04:04] <fangorious> Steven_M: have a look at the link ubotu just posted. i can view that site you mentioned. i have kde 3.5 from kubuntu.org, not sure what flashplayer i have, probably the latest
[04:04] <ilba7r> visik7, checkinstall will install a deb package for you. instead of make install use checkinstall. you need to install it first on your sys
[04:05] <nightwatch> fangorious no. I want to know if the live version of kubunto uses anything from knoppix, becouse I hate knoppix. I have had bad experiences with it before.
[04:05] <visik7> ilba7r: dirty solution
[04:05] <fangorious> nightwatch: not that i'm aware of (i hat knoppix too)
[04:05] <ilba7r> visik7, i now but only solution i have so far
[04:05] <visik7> I would make a real package with dependancies and other stuff
[04:05] <fangorious> nightwatch: the live CD should be identical to the standard images, except for the whole read-only bootable cd that you don't install with
[04:06] <visik7> not a just a tar.gz named .deb
[04:06] <fangorious> visik7: what's wrong with just dumping it in /opt?
[04:06] <nightwatch> fangorious thats it what I want to know. I cannot install it.
[04:06] <Steven_M> ilba7r: what line do I need to put in my sources.list file to get that package? (I  haven't noticed any  flash packages in the default repositories but I could be wrong)
[04:06] <nightwatch> then I have to donwload both versions
[04:07] <visik7> fangorious: that it's not a clean solution
[04:07] <ilba7r> !repos
[04:07] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:08] <fangorious> visik7: sure it is, it doesn't overwrite any system files and doesn't create any local/obsolete nuisances in apt
[04:09] <fangorious> nightwatch: yeah, i was surprised to find out you can't install from the live dvd image
[04:09] <visik7> fangorious: I want to make a package for ubuntu and use in my pkg db and when a newer version will come out it will be upgraded
[04:10] <nightwatch> fangorious that's not so bad thing ... due it doesnt use knoppix :P
[04:10] <fangorious> visik7: not trying to convince you otherwise, was just curious
[04:12] <Steven_M> ilba7r: how do I search for the mozilla restricted package using apt-get in the command line? I am not used to pure apt-get, I usually use aptitude?
[04:13] <ilba7r> sudo aptitude search
[04:13] <ilba7r> Steven_M, i too do not use apt-get at all only aptitude
[04:13] <fangorious> Steven_M: apt-cache search <keyword>
[04:16] <ilba7r> Steven_M, the package is sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:17] <ilba7r> i think it has a shell that will download and install from macromed website
[04:17] <fangorious> ilba7r: that sounds right
[04:24] <nightwatch> there is a brazilian version of kubuntu? can I choose this language during instalation?
[04:27] <visik7> ok kaffeine doesn't play wmv even if codecs are installed in /usr/lib/win32
[04:27] <visik7> it says:
[04:28] <visik7> deb http://www.tux.org/pub/java/debian/ sid non-free
[04:28] <visik7> ops
[04:28] <visik7> :)
[04:28] <visik7> ** Message: don't know how to handle audio/x-wma, wmaversion=(int)2, bitrate=(int)8000, rate=(int)8000, channels=(int)1, block_align=(int)64, codec_data=(buffer)00220000000000000000
[04:28] <visik7> ** Message: don't know how to handle video/x-msmpeg, msmpegversion=(int)43, framerate=(double)25, width=(int)176, height=(int)144
[04:32] <Voodoo_Vibe> How do i install java for konquerer??
[04:35] <steven_jm> ilba7r: it is steven_m here, did my thanks message come through? I may have accidentally cut myself off from the net. Anyway thankyou for your help today
[04:36] <ilba7r> steven_jm, you are more than welcomed. no did not come through earlier. :)
[04:37] <steven_jm> ilba7r:  please pass on my thanks to fangorious too if you talk to him soon.
[04:37] <ilba7r> steven_jm, for sure if i saw him.
[04:37] <Voodoo_Vibe> can i install java from apt-get??
[04:38] <ilba7r> Voodoo_Vibe, yap if you have the repos for it
[04:38] <ilba7r> !reps
[04:38] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, ilba7r
[04:38] <ilba7r> !repos
[04:38] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:38] <Voodoo_Vibe> ilba7r: so what is the easiest way to get it??? on konquerer
[04:39] <ilba7r> Voodoo_Vibe, mm i always had prob with it and konq. I used to run it with firefox
[04:39] <visik7> someone able to see wmv an listen to  wma in kaffeine ?
[04:39] <bur[n] er> visik7: get w32codecs
[04:39] <ilba7r> Voodoo_Vibe, but basiclally you install the mozilla-plugin and use konquer to scan for new plugins
[04:40] <visik7> bur[n] er: w32codecs are installed
[04:40] <visik7> but I  got the messages above
[04:40] <Voodoo_Vibe> ilba7r: ohhh ok thanx!
[04:40] <bur[n] er> visik7: kaffeine-xine ?
[04:40] <visik7> installed
[04:40] <visik7> but dunno how to set it
[04:40] <visik7> it stay on gstreamer
[04:41] <bur[n] er> uhh... apt-get install totem-xine ;)
[04:41] <visik7> no I don't want to use totem
[04:41] <bur[n] er> to be honest, I use totem still... and i odn't have any .wma .wmv to test kaffeine :\
[04:41] <visik7> if I want an external player I'll use mplayer xine or vlc alone
[04:42] <ilba7r> visik7 re install re configure kaffiene if you installed the codecs after it
[04:42] <visik7> ok works
[04:42] <visik7> with xine
[04:42] <visik7> gstramer doesn't support wmv at all ?
[04:42] <ilba7r> i remember it search for the codecs during the first installation step and not after that
[04:43] <visik7> ilba7r: ok now works
[04:43] <visik7> using xine backend
[04:44] <ilba7r> ok
[04:44] <visik7> btw afais gstreamer doesn't support wmv ( 0.8)
[04:46] <Voodoo_Vibe> ilba7r: how do i install java for firefox?? i got an message like press here to get java but nothing happens
[04:46] <_tao> I've got a display pb, I can use ubuntu correctly but after a few time some grey or pink zones appears on the screen. Do u know what I could do ??
[04:47] <ilba7r> !java
[04:47] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:47] <ilba7r> Voodoo_Vibe, follow ubotu link
[04:47] <Voodoo_Vibe> ilba7r: thanx!
[04:50] <_tao> is anyone could help me pls ??
[04:57] <kkathman> _tao whats wrong?
[04:59] <_tao> I said it before, I have display pbs
[05:00] <_tao> after running correctly, suddenly the display becomes weird
[05:00] <boow> every thing smooth accept choppy mp3 playback in amarok
[05:00] <_tao> with pink or grey or any color zones on the screen
[05:01] <kkathman> _tao that sound like either a bad driver (if you installed one) or possibly a resolution issue
[05:01] <kkathman> _tao how long is it "stable" before it begins to go bad?
[05:02] <_tao> well I didn't installed the driver (I wanted but I couldn't)
[05:03] <_tao> it's not a matter of time, right now I'm using my laptop, and my desktop (the one with ubuntu) is still running fine is some time
[05:03] <_tao> "since some time"
[05:03] <kkathman> _tao is it ok for hours at a time, or minutes?
[05:03] <_tao> well I even could say hours
[05:04] <_tao> if I don't use it
[05:04] <_tao> in fact, it happens when I scroll up or down windows
[05:04] <_tao> and I had that same pb when I had mandriva
[05:05] <juif> whooo even with this GUI can i install software ? not i !
[05:05] <juif> dude, ok, i download firefox, its in a .tar.gz file, i uncompress it to a folder, click on the executables in there, nothing happens
[05:05] <juif> how does one install software ?
[05:07] <ilba7r> juif if you downloaded firefox 1.5 from their websit just click on the firefox SH file
[05:07] <ilba7r> it  will run it for you
[05:07] <kkathman> _tao this sounds like a problem with your video card if you had probs with mandriva also
[05:07] <kkathman> _tao you could try to reconfigure x I suppose
[05:07] <_tao> I did it
[05:08] <kkathman> _tao  you did a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[05:08] <_tao> yeah
[05:08] <kkathman> _tao how about experienting with the resolutions and refresh rates
[05:09] <_tao> well I have a lcd screen so I set it at 1280*1024@75hz
[05:10] <kkathman> _tao have you tried other resolutions that dont use a 4:3 aspect?
[05:11] <_tao> no I didn't, but I'd rather stay at 1280*1024
[05:12] <kkathman> _tao  I understand, but I do know some people have reported that their hardware seems to be stable at different aspect ratios other than 4:3
[05:12] <_tao> in fact I think I can do everything excepted internet
[05:13] <juif> theres no sh file in there, maybe i should download again, or something
[05:15] <juif> cannot execute ./bash - bin -  it says
[05:15] <_tao> yep, after running fine for some time, I tried to go on internet and bam I had that display pb
[05:16] <_tao> but I just have to exit my session to find back a good display
[05:17] <kkathman> _tao does that monitor work with other computers?
[05:18] <_tao> yeah, I have it since more than a year and it works fine with windows
[05:19] <kavit> the new ATI driver does give a fair performance improvement.
[05:19] <kavit> the only problem is that the dual head doesnt seem to be working properly with kde
[06:05] <joshisscifi> hey everybody
[06:07] <dandielionous> hello
[06:07] <dandielionous> Well I got xine to work and totem movie player but I still can't get a link to play a video when I click on it.
[06:08] <joshisscifi> whats the best way to go about getting java up and going for programming purposes in kubuntu?
[06:08] <dandielionous> Do I need realplayer or is there a way for kubuntu to do it.
[06:08] <dandielionous> Hey I got java working.
[06:08] <dandielionous> lol
[06:08] <dandielionous> At least the plug in.
[06:09] <dandielionous> I'm sorry joshisscifi I'm really new and can't really help you with that.
[06:09] <joshisscifi> its all good
[06:10] <dandielionous> I'm trying to figure out if I need to install realplayer.
[06:10] <dandielionous> So if I click on a link that has a video it will play it.
[06:10] <joshisscifi> probably, or a real alternative codec
[06:10] <dandielionous> See look how much you know. :)
[06:11] <dandielionous> I installed everything java related I could find in synaptic and got the java plug in working.
[06:11] <dandielionous> It also installed the java console.
[06:11] <dandielionous> If that helps you any.
[06:11] <dandielionous> I had to set my preferences also in my browser.
[06:12] <joshisscifi> hmm.... k
[06:12] <dandielionous> I don't know if that's what you want to know or not.
[06:13] <dandielionous> I do know I have streaming video working for the first time in my life and it's really kewl.
[06:13] <dandielionous> :)
[06:13] <dandielionous> Nice jazz playing from shoutcast.
[06:13] <joshisscifi> cool
[06:13] <dandielionous> Just like I always heard people could do.
[06:13] <dandielionous> First time it's ever worked for me.
[06:13] <dandielionous> I never did get it to work right in windows.
[06:14] <dandielionous> Well I guess I'm off to try and figure out how to install real player.
[06:14] <joshisscifi> alrighty
[06:14] <joshisscifi> google is master lol
[06:14] <dandielionous> Then my machine should be set up pretty well for a while.
[06:14] <dandielionous> lol I hear that.
[06:19] <burepe2> Can someone look at the contents of this .patch file and tell me what file I am supposed to apply it to. It seems like there is the name of the file at the top, but there is another one half way down. I am confused. Here is the contents of the file http://pastebin.com/495989
[06:20] <juif> i get the feeling there lots of packages i should be installing before i think of using any software, any hints ?
[06:22] <_alan> hello
[06:22] <klepty> hola
[06:22] <_alan> is anyone up for a dumb question?
[06:23] <klepty> someone please show me how to find where things are installed after an apt-get install?
[06:23] <murph2481> klepty: what did you install?
[06:23] <klepty> nothing in particular but when i look for the binary to run sometimes i can't find them
[06:24] <murph2481> klepty: usually it is added to the menu, but if not search for the package name in the search off the menu
[06:24] <_alan> if I have an AMD-6d4 motherboard is it okay to istall the 1386 ubuntu iso? i was having trouble swith amd so i reverted back
[06:25] <murph2481> usually the binary's are in /etc/
[06:25] <klepty> ahh i figured that there was some flag that would show it
[06:25] <murph2481> adept or synaptic can tell you if the package was installed
[06:25] <murph2481> short of that i believe you are stuck with searching :)
[06:25] <_alan> AMD 64
[06:26] <joshisscifi> _alan: yes it will work
[06:27] <_alan> i read in some postings not to install amd 64 unless i had a specific reaon too
[06:28] <klepty> true.. i have kubuntu running on a 64bit laptop and i am running the 386 vers
[06:28] <klepty> works perfectly
[06:50] <juif> i cant install any software , i get all kinds of errors, i was trying to install mozilla or just firefox, nothing wants to install. wtf ?
[06:51] <mr-russ> juif: use pastebin to paste the errors.
[06:51] <juif> is kubuntu missing some libraries, or all libraries or something ? :) seems to not even play mp3s :) even tho it recognises it
[06:51] <juif> well, its not giving me any errors when i click on them from the GUI
[06:51] <mr-russ> yes, because mp3's are patented and you need a license to use them.
[06:52] <_alan> how do you open konqueror in super-user mode?
[06:52] <juif> but it says stuff about permissions, in the text interface
[06:52] <mr-russ> so enable multiverse repository and installl the mp3 addon's there.
[06:52] <mr-russ> juif: "stuff"??
[06:52] <juif> multiverse repository ? what is that and how do i enable it ?
[06:52] <_alan> i cant find super-user file browser in ubuntu
[06:53] <juif> yes stuff, sorry, i didnt cut and paste that was a moment ago
[06:53] <mr-russ> _alan: I don't know, run kdesu konquorer
[06:53] <juif> i havent been able to run any programs that didnt come with kubuntu
[06:54] <mr-russ> juif: okay, that's the problem.  What do you actually want to do?
[06:54] <Calilasseia> juif, you having problems with Breezy updates?
[06:54] <juif> well, i just wanted to do things, like install software. i download .tar.gz files, unpack them to directories, click on the executable files, nothing happens
[06:55] <_alan> thank you
[06:55] <juif> when i go into the text interface, it says permission denied and other various errors
[06:55] <mr-russ> sudo apt-get install "software"
[06:55] <sampan> juif, you should use adept (or aptitude or apt-get) to install software from the repositories
[06:55] <juif> or just logs me out
[06:55] <mr-russ> and that gives you permission denied, or are you using adept to install software?
[06:56] <juif> the repositories ? what are those ?
[06:56] <sampan> !repositories
[06:56] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:56] <_alan> ar russ that was a 2 year problem fixed thanks
[06:56] <juif> sudo apt-get install "software" i will try it, i hadnt tried that
[06:56] <sampan> juif, they are collections of packages that ubuntu has read for download and automatic installation via adept/aptitude/apt-get
[06:56] <sampan> all pre-compiled and ready to go
[06:57] <sampan> read = ready
[06:57] <juif> ok
[06:57] <juif> i will go try that now
[06:57] <Calilasseia> However, Juif, to use the repositories, you will have to edit a file - apt-sources I think it's called ...
[06:58] <Calilasseia> And add the names of the new repositories to the list in that text file ...
[06:58] <mr-russ> juif: are you new to linux, or just ubuntu?
[06:58] <sampan> juif, read ubotu's link about enabling the universe/multiverse repositories -- they contain many of the most common packages.  the file that tells kubuntu where (which repos) to download from is: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:59] <Calilasseia> That's the file I was looking for ... /etc/apt/sources.list ... thanks for the memory jog ....
[06:59] <Calilasseia> You have to edit that file ... you will need root permissions though ...
[07:00] <sampan> it's a simple text file that you can edit several ways: (a) within adept (package manager application), (b) sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list or (c) kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:00] <juif> i am new to all *nix
[07:00] <mr-russ> juif: okay.
[07:00] <Calilasseia> Juif, one fundamental rule to learn is this ... ANY changes to the system generally require what are called "super user" permissions ...
[07:01] <Calilasseia> This is to stop malicious outsiders from messing with your installation among other things ...
[07:01] <Calilasseia> To run various applications with those permissions in KDE, you select "Run" from the menu, then type "kdesu" followed by the name of the application ...
[07:02] <Calilasseia> It will then ask you for your password ...
[07:02] <Calilasseia> Once you've supplied your password, you can then make changes to the system ...
[07:03] <Calilasseia> So for example, to run Kate with super user permissions so that you can edit the sources.list file, you type "kdesu kate"
[07:03] <Calilasseia> Then you can use Kate to edit the files you want ...
[07:03] <Calilasseia> Provided of course that they are text files!
[07:04] <juif> okay.. and whats with this sudo thing ?
[07:04] <mr-russ> Calilasseia: I'd suggest he use adept and edit sources.list from there.
[07:04] <Calilasseia> Ah ...
[07:04] <mr-russ> juif: it's like run as administrator on windows.
[07:04] <Calilasseia> "sudo" is used in the text interface to perform the same job ...
[07:04] <mr-russ> sudo "S"uper"U"ser "DO"
[07:05] <juif> ok
[07:05] <juif> cool
[07:05] <sampan> sudo = superuser do ... it executes a command as "superuser".  generally you shouldn't start GUI apps with "sudo" b/c it can mess up config files for that app.  if you're gonna run a GUI app as superuser use: kdesu
[07:05] <Calilasseia> To run a command with super user permissions, you type, for example, "sudo gedit"
[07:05] <joshisscifi> alright, is there a definitive reason to upgrade to kde 3.5?
[07:05] <Calilasseia> "sudo" is for the command line interface and shell commands, while "kdesu" is for KDE applications ...
[07:06] <mr-russ> joshisscifi: depend who you are, I would say not.  wait for dapper it's not that imperative.
[07:06] <Calilasseia> But they do the same job - give you super user permissions ...
[07:06] <sampan> joshisscifi  only if you want the latest/greatest ... there's no pressing reason to do so if you're happy with 3.4.3
[07:06] <ndazza> joshisscifi: it's newer... :P
[07:06] <joshisscifi> lol alrighty
[07:06] <mr-russ> joshisscifi: unless you want one of the fancy new features like acl support.
[07:06] <joshisscifi> well at the moment the only thing I need to do is get BlueJ up and running
[07:06] <ndazza> it has acl support?? <opens konqueror>
[07:06] <juif> ahh for kde super user
[07:07] <Calilasseia> Only thing is Juif, be careful what you do and what files you tinker with when you have super user permissions!
[07:07] <juif> ok, i'll try. but im pretty sure ill have to re-install before the month is over :)
[07:07] <mr-russ> ndazza: it is supposed to, so if you right click file permissions, you should get a fancy interface.
[07:07] <Calilasseia> For example, I wouldn't edit the mount list for your system's drives unless you REALLY know what you're doing ...
[07:08] <ndazza> yeah i see it, that's cool
[07:08] <Calilasseia> That's a good way of unhinging the system ...
[07:08] <mr-russ> the thing that's impossible to recover from is an rm -fr / as root
[07:09] <sampan> except in an irc window ;x
[07:09] <joshisscifi> anyone have an idea about this:
[07:09] <joshisscifi> ** ERROR **: file ../../../src/libjava/jni/gtk-peer/gnu_java_awt_peer_gtk_GtkImage.c: line 572 (createRawData): assertion failed: (data_fid != 0)
[07:09] <ndazza> joshisscifi: i'd say you're trying to compile something...
[07:09] <ndazza> oh wait it's a failed assertion
[07:09] <Calilasseia> Oh ABSOLUTELY NEVER type that in a unix terminal window as root ... (argh) ..
[07:09] <ndazza> programmer error
[07:09] <juif> whats the deal with 'compiling' programs ?
[07:10] <juif> i dont seem to get it
[07:10] <joshisscifi> hmm
[07:10] <Calilasseia> Juif, here's an explanation ...
[07:10] <mr-russ> juif: instead of getting a program you can run, you get files you can read to change a program.
[07:10] <mr-russ> juif: you have to compile it so people can run it.
[07:10] <Calilasseia> A lot of Linux applications are supplied as source code that you can edit and customise ...
[07:10] <joshisscifi> guess I better try to find a binary install
[07:11] <Calilasseia> But you have to pass that source code (usually C or a similar language) to a compiler and create an executable file ....
[07:11] <mr-russ> I'm hitting a big learning curve attempting to make debian/ubuntu packages when I've used ubuntu for a week, and never used debian :(
[07:11] <juif> how does one compile those files ? can someone just download software x, stick source code y in it, and end up with working software z ?
[07:11] <Calilasseia> Which assumes you know also how to program in C or C++ ... if you don't know about C or C++ programming you've a LOT to learn!
[07:12] <juif> oh
[07:12] <juif> hahah
[07:12] <mr-russ> juif: that's the basic explanation.
[07:12] <juif> so i should stay away from source code compiling ?
[07:12] <mr-russ> juif: but ubuntu compiles everything for you, so you install software and can use it straight away.
[07:12] <sampan> juif, if you're new to *nix, you probably have no need to mess with compiling for awhile.  the repos have all the packages you're likely to need ;)
[07:12] <Calilasseia> If you want to install software, you need access to pre-compiled binary executable files ....
[07:12] <mr-russ> adept lets you install programs you can run.
[07:12] <juif> ok
[07:13] <Calilasseia> The repositories and apt-get give you access to lots of programs pre-compiled and ready to run on Kubuntu ...
[07:13] <joshisscifi> how do I remove the java sdk etc that I installed through adept fully?
[07:13] <juif> sounds fine for me, i'll look around the available things
[07:13] <mr-russ> juif: adept will give you 17000+ things :)
[07:14] <mr-russ> K -> System -> Package Manager (Adept)
[07:14] <Calilasseia> Quick question Juif - do you know the distinction between source code and an executable? This is a pretty crucial piece of knowledge here ...
[07:14] <juif> executable you can run. source code is code, you cant run, you need to make an executable out of it.
[07:15] <Calilasseia> OK, that's fine for now ...
[07:15] <Calilasseia> The beauty of having source code of course, Juif, is that if you DO know how to program in C etc., you can modify the source ...
[07:15] <Calilasseia> And create your own customised version of the program ...
[07:16] <juif> but
[07:16] <juif> if you dont know C, can you compile as is
[07:16] <juif> and run it ?
[07:16] <juif> as is ?
[07:16] <Calilasseia> There exists a C compiler that comes with the system ... I believe the old "cc" compiler is still available ....
[07:17] <mr-russ> gcc ?
[07:17] <Calilasseia> Ah, of course - gcc is a better one :)
[07:17] <Calilasseia> It's a bit more modern and it's under the GNU licence :)
[07:18] <Calilasseia> What you have to do with source code, Juif, is determine which language it's written in ...
[07:18] <juif> ok
[07:18] <Calilasseia> If it's C, then you have to pass the source code to the C compiler to create your executable ...
[07:18] <juif> ok
[07:18] <Calilasseia> However, if your source code is a Perl script, you pass that instead to the Perl interpreter, which runs it for you ...
[07:19] <juif> and thats it ?
[07:19] <Calilasseia> Not quite ... to find out how to use the C compiler you need the manual page ...
[07:19] <Calilasseia> In a terminal or shell window, type "man gcc" and read the HUGE amount of text that the manual spits out!
[07:20] <juif> haha, ok
[07:20] <Calilasseia> Oh, that's another beauty of the system  - the "man" command gives you manual pages for all the system commands etc ...
[07:20] <juif> where do i type !repositories ? i tried it in the text interface and it did nothing
[07:20] <Calilasseia> The repositories have to be added to a special text file containing a list of these entities ...
[07:20] <sampan> juif, easiest way of enabling the repositories is to run Adept (on kmenu)
[07:21] <juif> i am looking around the Adept menu right now
[07:21] <sampan> it's the package manager application.  run it. it will ask for your password.
[07:21] <sampan> then at the top, there's a menubar -- under the Adept tab there will be (in drop down menu) "manage repositories"
[07:21] <sampan> click it
[07:22] <juif> ok
[07:22] <Calilasseia> Ah, this must be one of the Breezy improvements ... it wasn't in Hoary ...
[07:22] <juif> gives me a list
[07:22] <Calilasseia> Or at least I never found it :)
[07:22] <sampan> you'll see a list, mostly greyed out.  all the lines that have "universe" or "multiverse" on them, right-click and select "enable"
[07:22] <juif> of servers
[07:22] <ndazza> Calilasseia: i think you're confusing things a little - for an end user the standard ./configure; make; make install will usually work!
[07:23] <sampan> juif, oh and the first line or second should be the "cdrom" -- DISABLE that
[07:23] <ndazza> if you have a broadband internet connection...
[07:23] <juif> no cd  rom in there
[07:24] <sampan> top line isn't "Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger..." ?   hrmmmm -- well if it's not there, then don't worry about it :)
[07:24] <Calilasseia> Ndazza, in the past I've had all the fun of mending broken makefiles ... :)
[07:24] <Calilasseia> Sometimes I gave up and compiled things the hard way :)
[07:25] <juif> yes it is
[07:25] <juif> breezy badger, etc.. should i disable that ?
[07:25] <sampan> juif, yes -- disable it ... otherwise it will ask you to insert the cd everytime you try to update your package list
[07:26] <_dad> any Kaffeine xperts around
[07:26] <_dad> I keep getting GStreamer could not initlize
[07:26] <juif> and all those repositories will appear in my adept menu now ?
[07:26] <sampan> juif, when you're done enabling the universe/multiverse ... then click "apply" at the bottom or "commit changes" at the top. then click "fetch updates" at the top
[07:27] <ndazza> Calilasseia: usually it's just missing dependencies - try compiling OOo without make! :p
[07:27] <Calilasseia> Ndazza, I'd rather not!! :)
[07:27] <joshisscifi> can anybody recommend a good java ide?
[07:27] <joshisscifi> eclipse just doesn't do it for me
[07:27] <sampan> juif, and your system will now fetch a whole bunch of lists from the repositories of packages that you can install
[07:28] <Calilasseia> Josh, I'd avoid Netbeans like the plague ...
[07:28] <ndazza> joshisscifi: i prefer vim :)
[07:28] <joshisscifi> ndazza: will vim highlight and color?
[07:28] <joshisscifi> I'm actually learning java this semester, and we're supposed to use BlueJ, but it won't install on here atm
[07:28] <Calilasseia> I installed that with the Java 2SE download from Sun and it was a total crock ...
[07:28] <_alan> lame problem #420 i cant seem to install firefox ... it was fine i unistalled it and deleteded its folders, reinstalled it and and apt-get installed firefox , but it wont open
[07:29] <juif> yeah, this is great
[07:29] <ndazza> joshisscifi: yes
[07:29] <juif> theres tons of software in that list
[07:29] <sampan> juif, now, enjoy browsing the 17,000 or so packages! ;D
[07:29] <joshisscifi> ndazza: k, have you checked out Jbuilder or jedit?
[07:29] <_alan> i uninstalled firefox because it wouldnt open just tried and tried then dissapeared
[07:30] <Calilasseia> Oh and Juif, one recommendation I can give ... find a good general Linux textbook in your bookstore, and take it home and digest thoroughly ...
[07:30] <ndazza> joshisscifi: not that i recall - if i'm using a gui editor i tend to use kate, that has syntax highlighting and some other goodies
[07:30] <joshisscifi> ndazza: lemme adept that
[07:30] <ndazza> joshisscifi: oh and for a nice cross-platform one try jgrasp
[07:30] <ndazza> joshisscifi: if you have kubuntu installed you will already have it
[07:30] <ndazza> joshisscifi: just alt+f2 -> kate
[07:31] <joshisscifi> well looky there
[07:31] <sampan> hey kkathman :)
[07:31] <joshisscifi> it says upgradeable in adept, might as well take care of that
[07:31] <kkathman> hey sampan ;)
[07:31] <juif> yes, i plan on that, its a fascinating phenomenon
[07:31] <juif> free beer for all
[07:32] <Calilasseia> Oh, and while on the subject of Java IDEs ...
[07:32] <_dad> anyone know why I am getting a GStreamer error??????????????
[07:32] <sampan> _dad, because something isn't working right?
[07:32] <_dad> hehe
[07:32] <Calilasseia> I need one that I can run on both a Linux system and a (dreaded) Wintel box ...
[07:32] <ndazza> _dad: what app are you trying to run?
[07:32] <joshisscifi> hmm, lemme test out the dvd playing
[07:32] <ndazza> Calilasseia: see the aforementioned JGrasp
[07:33] <_dad> Kaffeine is giving me an failor on the GStreamer
[07:33] <Calilasseia> JGrasp ... that will run on Kubuntu sure ... you just said it comes with Kubuntu ...
[07:33] <ndazza> _dad: kaffeine is horrible in my opinion :) try xine
[07:33] <Calilasseia> But is there a Wintel port as well ???
[07:33] <_dad> K
[07:34] <ndazza> Calilasseia: nope, sorry that was my fault - kate comes with kubuntu
[07:34] <joshisscifi> Kaffeine: Cannot read info for dvd
[07:34] <sampan> you can even try the xine engine for kaffeine (kaffeine-xine)
[07:34] <joshisscifi> boo
[07:34] <joshisscifi> guess I gotta install gstreamer?
[07:34] <Calilasseia> Trouble is I need a Jav IDE that works on both ...
[07:34] <dandielionous> I finally have my music working in totem.
[07:34] <ndazza> Calilasseia: yes, it's written in java and can compile and run on both platforms
[07:34] <Calilasseia> Netbeans was suppsed to deliver the goods because it was allegedly written in Java ... but when I tried using Netbeans, it fell on its face ...
[07:35] <dandielionous> I tried installing real player to links that have video popups but it don't work.
[07:35] <dandielionous> Messed up my totem.
[07:35] <joshisscifi> wtf
[07:35] <joshisscifi> gstreamer0.8-dvd installed
[07:35] <ndazza> Calilasseia: i have had netbeans running successfully on linux before, and at my old uni it was running on an old Sun box
[07:35] <joshisscifi> yet.... kaffeine won't open my dvd?
[07:35] <ndazza> Calilasseia: but jgrasp is nowhere near as heavyweight, it's more likely to succeed
[07:36] <ndazza> joshisscifi: it is probably encrypted - that's a whole new can of worms!
[07:36] <Calilasseia> Right ... so do a google search on JGrasp for my Wintel box, and use Adept to update it on my Kubuntu system ...
[07:36] <ndazza> !dvd
[07:36] <joshisscifi> ugh.... time for me to learn how to play encrypted again
[07:36] <ndazza> !tell joshisscifi about dvd
[07:37] <joshisscifi> aha!
[07:37] <ndazza> Calilasseia: uhm, not sure if it's packaged in kubuntu actually
[07:37] <ndazza> Calilasseia: when i installed it i ended up compiling it
[07:37] <Calilasseia> Argh ....
[07:38] <ndazza> Calilasseia: actually maybe i didn't - i think it's distributed as java bytecode, so if you have sun's J2RE installed it will just work
[07:38] <Calilasseia> Checking the home page now ...
[07:39] <Calilasseia> Yup, got the full J2SE development kit installed ... that should be fine ...
[07:40] <ndazza> yeah that'll do it
[07:40] <ndazza> it might even run under kaffe
[07:40] <Calilasseia> Says there's a self-extracting exe for Wintel, and a generic ZIP version for assorted Linux distros ...
[07:40] <joshisscifi> I forgot how to change runlevels so I can install my nvidia drivers
[07:41] <ndazza> joshisscifi: uh it might be sudo telinit 2
[07:41] <joshisscifi> k
[07:41] <ndazza> joshisscifi: but that will kill all your gui apps (if it works)
[07:41] <_dad> Ndazza!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:41] <joshisscifi> ndazza: yeah its supposed to in order to install the drivers
[07:42] <_dad> THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:42] <sampan> joshisscifi  are you trying to install the absolute latest nvidia drivers?
[07:42] <_dad> I here my MP#'s
[07:42] <_dad> YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[07:42] <ndazza> _dad: no worries... - for mp3s try amarok though
[07:42] <_dad> Amarok crashes too
[07:43] <joshisscifi> sampan: I will be in a moment yes
[07:43] <ndazza> _dad: okay, xmms then :)
[07:43] <sampan> k, just asking b/c the repos have the 7667s all .debbed up
[07:43] <ndazza> _dad: those apps are better suited to managing music collections
[07:43] <_dad> xmms not loaed yet
[07:43] <joshisscifi> hmm, I'll check those
[07:43] <_dad> cool
[07:43] <Calilasseia> Just checked the JGrasp homepage ... apparently NASA had a hand in ideveloping it ...
[07:44] <Calilasseia> In which case it should work :)
[07:44] <joshisscifi> sure if you don't have to convert meters to feet
[07:44] <joshisscifi> lol
[07:44] <ndazza> Calilasseia: either that or you need to be a rocket scientist to get it working :)
[07:45] <juif> the programs that you enable in adept
[07:45] <juif> do they require reboots ?
[07:46] <ndazza> juif: nope
[07:46] <Khris_dx> How do I get rid of the annoying bubbles when I hover mouse over K menu?
[07:46] <Calilasseia> Right, I'm off to browse JGrasp & see if it'l deliver the goods ... thanks NDazza :)
[07:46] <Calilasseia> Bye everyone ...
[07:46] <sampan> khris_dx  iirc, you need to turn off mouse-over effects in system settings (desktop? appearance? something like that)
[07:47] <juif> i enabled a couple mp3 codecs and still cant play any
[07:47] <ndazza> juif: what app are you using to play them?
[07:48] <juif> i tried amarok and kaffeine
[07:48] <juif> what is kfile ?
[07:48] <sampan> juif, you should probably read and follow the restricted formats wiki (link from ubotu in a moment)
[07:48] <sampan> !restrictedformats
[07:48] <ubotu> methinks restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:49] <ndazza> juif: no idea - but install xmms and you should be right i think
[07:49] <juif> oh, the text, ok, ill read that
[07:49] <ndazza> there's a package you have to install to get mp3 support in kde - anyone remember what it is?
[07:49] <ndazza> something about libmad
[07:50] <sampan> i always forget the multimedia packages i had to install -- which is why i just point people to the wiki ;x
[07:50] <sampan> it was a whole bunch of alphabet soup -- can't ever remember the names
[07:50] <joshisscifi> woot
[07:50] <joshisscifi> dvd playing :)
[07:59] <rance> I need some advice, Ive got a programming project to do and it needs to log in to an email address, check the messages, for each it needs to parse the messages looking for those that contain a proper format for a database insert statement.  I know how to do this in php, but kubuntu's php implementation doesnt include the imap/pop3 options.  Im hesitant to build php myself since it could break the dependency on other packages, so i
[07:59] <rance>  I do, will that get me where I need to go, or is there a php package that adds the imap-pop3 functions to php like the php-mysql packages do?
[08:00] <_dad> nsazza...... Xine and Xmms working great... Kaffeene (crap) is gone...Thanks dued
 Thanks, found it under Panel => Appearance
[08:05] <CyberMad> how could i run as root without using sudo in console, root@host:~# ?
[08:05] <ndazza> sudo -s
[08:06] <sampan> khris_dx  :) glad you found it
[08:06] <joshisscifi> brb, nvidia time
[08:08] <ndazza> rance: there's php[345] -imap packages
[08:09] <CyberMad> ow thank you
[08:10] <rance> ok, thanks, I just found the libpop python library as well
[08:11] <ndazza> good luck with ur project :)
[08:13] <rance> ndazza, thanks, hey I just checked adept, and filtered for php and I cant find a php-imap package, is there someting I need to do to have adept look somewhere else, this is MOSTLY a default kubuntu install with a couple of configuration changes for my hardware
[08:13] <ndazza> rance: it might be in the universe or multiverse repositories, have you set those up?
[08:13] <rance> no
[08:14] <ndazza> !tell rance about repositiories
[08:14] <ndazza> !tell rance about repositiory
[08:14] <ndazza> !tell rance about repositories
[08:14] <ndazza> damn spelling...
[08:14] <rance> there it goes
[08:14] <rance> thanks you
[08:14] <ndazza> no worries
[08:21] <joshisscifi> anyone wanna help me get the wireless to auto-start?
[08:23] <ndazza> joshisscifi: try fiddling with the file /etc/network/interfaces (i think that's it)
[08:23] <joshisscifi> k
[08:25] <joshisscifi> alright, I installed the nvidia-glx from adept, and ran the config.... does it need a reboot?
[08:25] <joshisscifi> opengl is still running sloooooow
[08:41] <juif> thanks for the help people, i think i will like this os
[09:00] <blackflag> hello all
[09:01] <blackflag> I sthere a way to do copying files within console from one computer to another?
[09:01] <blackflag> ftp?
[09:01] <blackflag> or are there other ways?
[09:10] <nomasteryoda|w> sftp
[09:10] <nomasteryoda|w> many
[09:10] <blackflag> okay, Im connected cia console to the ftp server
[09:11] <blackflag> how can I now copy a file to the server?
[09:11] <blackflag> I do ?
[09:11] <blackflag> but there is no copy command
[09:20] <juif> could it be that compressed video is laggy and skips ? using VLC
[09:20] <juif> cant run it full-screen without comical stop-motion aspect
[09:21] <juif> normal /
[09:21] <juif> ?
[09:22] <_dad> <--- noob.. what is the best graphis program??
[09:23] <_dad> For working with JPG that is
[09:35] <C-O-L-T> who can help me in installing ww2d program like google earth
[09:40] <C-O-L-T>  who can help me in installing ww2d program like google eartg
[09:47] <C-O-L-T> callie: are you there? Please help me in installing ww2d program like google earth, I told you yesterday about it
[09:54] <juif> anyone know why video playback is poor ?
[09:54] <juif> with all programs i try
[10:01] <tenco> hi all!
[10:02] <tenco> where should i install the win32 codecs for mplayer with breezy?
[10:07] <C-O-L-T>  who can help me in installing ww2d
[10:07] <C-O-L-T> ??????????????
[10:07] <C-O-L-T> GOOGLE EARTH FOR LINUX
[10:08] <hara> what source do i need to insert to sources.list to get newest avidemux2 ?
[10:14] <tenco> C-O-L-T: whats ww2d
[10:14] <tenco> s///d
[10:15] <tenco> s//?
[10:15] <tenco> argh
[10:22] <DjDarkman> hy ,i bought a better monitor ,how can I adjust the available resolutions and freqencies?
[10:23] <crimsun> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:24] <DjDarkman> 10x
[10:31] <C-O-L-T> tenco: GOOGLE EARTH FOR LINUX
[10:31] <C-O-L-T> I AM CURRENTLY AWAY
[10:34] <DjDarkman> hy again ,please give me a link where I can find the information ,about mounting and fstab
[10:35] <callie> www.google.com
[10:36] <tenco> DjDarkman: http://www.tldp.org/
[10:37] <DjDarkman> k 10x
[10:38] <tenco> 10x? (thanks?)
[10:38] <callie> or 10x = tenx = tenco?
[10:39] <tenco> :-)
[10:40] <thegladiator> i did  a #kubuntu-dektop install in my ubuntu
[10:41] <tenco> thegladiator: great.
[10:41] <thegladiator> in services , I can see a graphical logical manager(gdm) running
[10:41] <thegladiator> along with glm for kde
[10:41] <tenco> whats glm?
[10:41] <thegladiator> i wonderwhy these 2 are running are they requured ?
[10:42] <thegladiator> graphical logical manager
[10:42] <ilba7r> install kdm as an alternative thegladiator
[10:42] <thegladiator> sorry i mean login manaegr
[10:43] <thegladiator> ilba7r, it is installde with kubuntu-dekto
[10:43] <thegladiator> desktop*
[10:43] <thegladiator> no ?
[10:43] <ilba7r> i thought so but did you configure it to be your default
[10:44] <thegladiator> i am not sure , I didnt configure
[10:44] <ilba7r> if you do so you can remove gdm safely if you wish to
[10:44] <ilba7r> during the installation you were presented a question which you prefer as your default
[10:44] <thegladiator> actually I dont want to rmove gdm manager , rather I woul like to set kdm as default
[10:44] <thegladiator> and deactivate gdm only
[10:44] <thegladiator> how can I do this
[10:44] <ilba7r> i think the command is dpkg -reconfigure kdm but let me check
[10:45] <thegladiator> thank you please tell me
[10:45] <strider> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[10:45] <thegladiator> strider what does that do ?
[10:45] <ilba7r> here you go we have confirmation
[10:45] <strider> It will give you a choice
[10:45] <strider> choose KDM
[10:45] <thegladiator> actually i like the gdm login screen as opposed to my kdm screen
[10:45] <ilba7r> strider also can be reconfigure kdm
[10:46] <strider> yes either one ;)
[10:46] <thegladiator> either one could work ?
[10:46] <thegladiator> oops
[10:46] <CGA> hi y'all && how comes that amarok it can play mp3 out of the box? what do in need to install? (FYI: i've searched through adept and synaptic)
[10:46] <thegladiator> i can use gdm for kubuntu ?
[10:46] <ilba7r> yao
[10:46] <ilba7r> sorry yap done that for a while
[10:47] <thegladiator> !erstricted format
[10:47] <ubotu> thegladiator: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:47] <strider> thegladiator: oh yes
[10:47] <ilba7r> !restictedformat
[10:47] <ubotu> ilba7r: Are you on ritalin?
[10:47] <ilba7r> !restricted
[10:47] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[10:47] <CGA> thanks ilba7r
[10:48] <ilba7r> thegladiator, ubotu seems to be picky to whom it respond ;). its picky to the question though
[10:48] <thegladiator> strider, so I will get the gnome splash if I do that way ?
[10:48] <thegladiator> he he:)
[10:48] <ilba7r> CGA, ur welcomed
[10:49] <CGA> =)
[10:50] <strider> thegladiator: let me put it this way. I have bothe Gnome and KDE and prefer GDM. you can change the screen too - type sudo gdmsetup
[10:50] <thegladiator> i mean I dont need gnome splash but human login  screen is very nice
[10:50] <thegladiator> i see
[10:50] <thegladiator> let me try and se th results
[10:50] <strider> thegladiator: you can always go back. do a reconfigure gdm and voila! heh
[10:51] <thegladiator> yep :)
[10:52] <CGA> ilba7r: do i need to restart amarok or something to be able to use that lib? i've installed it and it returns the same error if i try to D&D the file on the playlist.
[10:53] <thegladiator> just close the program
[10:53] <thegladiator> and re-run mayb
[10:53] <CGA> ok
[10:53] <ilba7r> cga i am not sure not an amarok fan do not use it
[10:54] <CGA> ilba7r: neither am i but i'm trying out kubuntu since i will install it to a n00b friend
[10:54] <CGA> so i wanna use the default applications for him
[10:55] <thegladiator> CGA, why dont you install the necessary things as given in the site and then try xmms first ?
[10:55] <CGA> BTW closing amarok and trying to play file with it doesn't work
[10:56] <ilba7r> do you have wincodec cga
[10:56] <CGA> thegladiator: well as i said b4 i wanna give hime a working system with default apps && one should be able to do that without installing other applications , do you understand what i mean?
[10:56] <thegladiator> yes
[10:56] <thegladiator> CGA, do whats the engine for ur amarok ?
[10:56] <CGA> ilba7r: i don't think so, i still have to finish that restricted formats wiki
[10:57] <ilba7r> CGA, after you finish it you can then test amarok it might be the format of the file you are trying to play
[10:57] <CGA> thegladiator: uhm.. not sure about that, what is the default engine?
[10:57] <CGA> ilba7r: sure thing
[10:58] <thegladiator> go to setting -> configure amarok ->engine and tell me the engine name . but afte you do the necessary installation as said in RF page
[10:59] <thegladiator> CGA have you installed alsa ?
[11:00] <CGA> thegladiator: engine is gstreamer && alsa should be installed by default...
[11:00] <CGA> otherwise you couldn't call ubuntu "linux for human beings"...
[11:00] <CGA> BTW now it works.... i was missing akode-mpeg
[11:00] <thegladiator> theree you go
[11:00] <CGA> as stated in the wiki fro RF
[11:00] <thegladiator> good
[11:01] <CGA> yep
[11:01] <thegladiator> brb
[11:03] <dad> Hi I'm looking for some help pls
[11:04] <CGA> dad: what's all about?
[11:05] <dad> Im trying to forward ports in kubuntu and I'm new to linux
[11:05] <CGA> dad: sorry i'm not iptables expert i can't help you
[11:06] <dad> well thanks anyway
[11:07] <ilba7r> dad install firefox
[11:07] <ilba7r> it is a frontend for iptables
[11:07] <ilba7r> user friendly too
[11:07] <dad> yes I've done that ilba
[11:08] <CGA> ilba7r: firefox? you mean firestarter?
[11:08] <ilba7r> so you just need to add a rule that the port is open. by the way by default all ports are open on ubuntu till you install firestarter
[11:08] <ilba7r> CGA, sorry lack of sleep
[11:08] <CGA> eh eh
[11:08] <dad> I use p2p called azureus
[11:08] <CGA> your apologize goes to dad anyway... :P
[11:09] <ilba7r> if you id not close the ports they are open dad
[11:09] <dad> and its receiving no incoming connections
[11:09] <CGA> dad:  are you behind a NAT or something?
[11:09] <ilba7r> dad than install the front end firestarter and open the ports. if you have a router you need to forward the ports there
[11:10] <dad> i am thinking its a firewall problem
[11:10] <dad> yeah I have a router that is all configured ok because I HAVE A DUAL BOOT SYSTEM and azureus runs great on winxp
[11:11] <CGA> ok DON'T SREAM please
[11:11] <CGA> *scream
[11:11] <dad> sorry i accidentally pressed caps lock
[11:11] <ilba7r> dad i am sure than you use the same ip address for the linux box as the window box
[11:11] <callie> dad: i had the same problem, you'll need to port forward for it to work under linux
[11:12] <dad> yes callie thats why I am here
[11:12] <callie> ok, well. what kind of router do you have?
[11:12] <dad> netgear dg???
[11:12] <ilba7r> dad i run an ftp server here and port forward is a router work
[11:12] <thegladiator> how can I change the kde login screen ? i can chnage the background etc. but not the real screen where you enter your password ?
[11:12] <ilba7r> so long the ports are opened on your linux box
[11:13] <dad> ilba how do I get firestarter
[11:13] <ilba7r> sudo apt-get install firestarter
[11:13] <dad> is it in adept
[11:13] <ilba7r> sure
[11:13] <thegladiator> can someone enlighten me on edititng the login screen in kde ?
[11:13] <dad> ok thanks
[11:13] <thegladiator> i opened login mananer
[11:13] <dad> callie any thoughts ?
[11:14] <ilba7r> thegladiator i really do not understand what you want to do
[11:14] <callie> dad: all i know is that forwarded a port to my linux box ip and told azurus to look at that port range
[11:14] <ilba7r> if you need a new theme you can go to kde-look.org
[11:15] <ilba7r> thegladiator, you can search through the package manager too for kdm themes
[11:15] <thegladiator> you see a starting screen where you enter ur user/pass when you boot into linux no ?
[11:15] <dad> am I correct in thinking firestarter is the (k)ubuntu firewall application ?
[11:15] <thegladiator> that bluish screen ?
[11:16] <thegladiator> ilba7r, i need to change that to something else
[11:16] <ilba7r> dad, it is a frontend to iptabs the firewall of linux
[11:16] <thegladiator> ilba7r, get me?
[11:17] <ilba7r> thegladiator, that is tedious work i just went looked for a theme i like than installed it
[11:17] <dad> thank you for your help  everyone
[11:17] <thegladiator> then give me the theme :)
[11:17] <ilba7r> i sent you a link to pick what you want thegladiator
[11:18] <ilba7r> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=18160
[11:18] <callie> and people wonder why i smoke
[11:18] <thegladiator> thanks let me see that
[11:18] <thegladiator> ilba7r, you install that via kcontrol aint it ?
[11:19] <thegladiator> the system settings-appearnace doesnt help with theme installation ?
[11:19] <ilba7r> thegladiator http://www.kde-look.org/ and search for kdm theme. each theme will tell you how to install
[11:19] <thegladiator> ok
[11:19] <CGA> ok guys, i'm off && thx ilba7r and thegladiator for the help =)
[11:19] <thegladiator> pleasure CGA
[11:20] <ilba7r> thegladiator, did you try kynaptic searching for kdm themes or login themes
[11:22] <thegladiator> yep i am right there
[11:22] <dad> ilba konsole is saying it couldn't find package firestarter
[11:22] <ilba7r> !repos
[11:22] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:22] <ilba7r> dad try adding the extra reposi
[11:23] <dad> ilba a bit simpler please
[11:23] <ilba7r> dad, ubotu gave you a link to enable the extra repositories. they are ftp sites for more packages you can install
[11:24] <ilba7r> so read e http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto and use breezy repos
[11:25] <callie> gah, this is doing my head in
[11:25] <callie> ilba7r: i take it you're pretty up on networking and the likes?
[11:26] <ilba7r> callie i used to play a little bit till i was bored and let it go after a while
[11:26] <ilba7r> so am not a guru but might help
[11:27] <callie> ok, well im trying to setup a connection between this box and my xbox, i have second NIC installed and a crossover cable connected
[11:27] <callie> i've assigned a manual ip to the xbox and given it the gateway ip of my second NIC
[11:27] <ilba7r> callie, never was a gaming person so won't be able to help
[11:28] <callie> ilba7r: just trying to ping the xbox at the moment, im not worried about gaming yet
[11:28] <ilba7r> callie,  try in ubuntu room /join #ubuntu
[11:28] <ilba7r> ok
[11:29] <callie> ok, thanks anyhow
[11:30] <ilba7r> hoped i was of more help
[11:30] <dad> no ilba I am new to linux. i'm using kde and I have adept and not synaptec
[11:31] <s_spiff> hey, I'm a ubuntu user, about to install KDE again [ this is my second shot at it ] 
[11:32] <s_spiff>  last time, in the app. menu, all the GNOME app's were also displayed
[11:32] <ilba7r> dad the procedure is the same for ubuntu and kubuntu. instead of synaptic use kynaptic or adept
[11:32] <s_spiff>  I do not want that to happen, what should I do?
[11:32] <dad> Ive found shorewall which is saying its a firewall
[11:33] <ilba7r> dad i do not know about shorewall i tried to find the simples most user friendly. There are a multitude of them
[11:34] <ilba7r> now am really getting sleepy so take care all
[11:43] <blackflag> can someone tell me how I can tranfer a directory via ftp-command?
[11:43] <blackflag> put dont work
[11:44] <blackflag> I get an "not a plain file."
[11:51] <knubbe> blackflag: with the built in ftp-client?
[11:51] <knubbe> blackflag: im not sure thats possible, if mput doesnt work
[12:07] <_ali> sallam
[12:08] <_ali> hi andred
[12:08] <_ali> how do you do?
[12:08] <_ali> can you read me?
[12:08] <thegladiator> whats kubuntu's default theme ?
[12:09] <thegladiator> how do I change to kubuntu's default ?
[12:09] <thegladiator> in theme-manager i changed a few things and messed up
[12:14] <kessler> Anyone know a good guide to install nvidia drivers? The last one i used messed up my system bigtime =|. It seems like i can't use the method i used to use in debian, since i haven't compiled the kernel myself (the nvidia installer calls for nvidia.ko)
[12:14] <pinucset> thegladiator plastik, in kcontrol
[12:14] <Hobbsee> !+nvidia
[12:14] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:17] <thegladiator> icons in my dektop became small
[12:17] <thegladiator> actually
[12:17] <thegladiator> hwo can i correct it and the the spacing between icons is also large
[12:19] <thegladiator> how do I adjust the distance between icons in dektop and increase the icon size ?
[12:20] <thegladiator> how do I increase the size , the rest can be handled
[12:21] <thegladiator> gues it is a siple thing
[12:21] <thegladiator> does anyont know ?
[12:25] <Hobbsee> i think the icon size is set somewhere in system settings - try the icons tab
[12:25] <Tudor_b> does anybody get freezes?
[12:25] <Tudor_b> in kubuntu?
[12:25] <Tudor_b> how do you solve them?
[12:26] <jpatrick> hey Hobbsee
[12:26] <Hobbsee> hey jpatrick :)
[12:26] <fridge> thegladiator: System Settings -> Appearance -> Icons -> Advanced
[12:29] <pinucset> one thing, in konqueror when i do f5 it puts a black horrible cursor, how can i do that it doesnt changes?
[12:31] <Hobbsee> pinucset: not seeing that happen here, in kde3.5
[12:31] <Hobbsee> so i'm not sure
[12:32] <pinucset> Hobbsee okay...
[12:32] <Hobbsee> in dapper kde3.5 that is...
[12:33] <Hobbsee> someone with breezy might check it for you
[12:33] <apokryphos> pinucset: that's down to your KDE icon theme
[12:33] <apokryphos> it's just the "loading", since F5 is refresh.
[12:39] <thegladiator> how can i enable the shystem sounds ?
[12:39] <pinucset> apokryphos how can i solve this?
[12:40] <thegladiator> in system setting -?sounds .system sound and networked sounds has been marked with a cross...
[12:40] <thegladiator> that means its checked ?
[12:46] <kessler> Hmm, kde doesnt seem very stable out-of-the-box
[12:47] <ninnghizidha> i cant change me music-volume witht he volumeup and -down keys ... a Onscreendisplay comes up, but the volume doenst change with it.
[12:47] <kessler> Is apt-get update/upgrade enough to fix the instability?
[12:47] <thegladiator> kessler on kubuntu or ubuntu with kde installed ?
[12:48] <kessler> kubunto and the kde that comes with breeze
[12:50] <thegladiator> it generally is stable . but yes do upgradation use update manager
[12:50] <kessler> I use the default "nv" drivers as well, havent installed nvidia drivers yet. Perhaps this could fix the problem?
[12:50] <kessler> Doesn't seem very stable to me. Think it has run for 30 mins max without crashing
[12:51] <thegladiator> kessler : do a memtest86 check to ensure it is not a RAM poblem
[12:52] <thegladiator> kessler, yes try out nvidia first!
[12:52] <thegladiator> !+nvidia
[12:52] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:57] <thegladiator> just a casual doubt , when I creat a link to my hdd's in the dektop , an emblem comes up in the ICON showing that it is a Link . can I remove that ?
[12:57] <ninnghizidha> how can i change gdm for kdm?
[12:58] <jpatrick> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[12:58] <thegladiator> ninnghizidha, simple
[12:58] <ninnghizidha> thanks a lot :-)
[12:58] <ninnghizidha> that was what i was searching for
[12:58] <thegladiator> which one are u going to set to ?
[01:00] <ninnghizidha> kdm.
[01:01] <ninnghizidha> gdm is only for one display, but kdm expands to both monitors
[01:06] <thegladiator> how can I remove the "emblem" that shows a folder is a link ?
[01:06] <thegladiator> in the desktop ?
[01:06] <thegladiator> gnome does that easily . i can click on properties
[01:07] <kessler> ffs, it keeps on crashing
[01:07] <kessler> Anyone have an idea how to fix it? Should i get an other version of kde than the one that comes with kubunto breeze?
[01:08] <thegladiator> kubuntu breeze is new AFAIK
[01:08] <thegladiator> version is 3.4.3 ?
[01:08] <kessler> how to check?
[01:08] <thegladiator> open somethin like control
[01:08] <thegladiator> kcontrol
[01:08] <thegladiator> for eg.
[01:08] <kessler> 3.4.3 yes
[01:08] <thegladiator> then it is stable
[01:09] <thegladiator> ffs = ?
[01:09] <thegladiator> !ffs
[01:09] <ubotu> thegladiator: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:09] <kessler> ffs = for fucks sake
[01:09] <thegladiator> whoops k
[01:09] <kessler> =)
[01:09] <kessler> But uhm
[01:09] <thegladiator> crashin like what kessler?
[01:09] <thegladiator> could you explain ?
[01:10] <kessler> Well, if i for example opens the kde menu (What in windows is "start"), the colours screw up really bad, and the system locks up few seconds later. At that point i cannot shutdown x, or even change to another terminal. Only fix i've found so far, is reboot =/
[01:11] <thegladiator> it must be a graphics problem then ?
[01:11] <kessler> I guess. Thats why i thought it might be kde that was unstable
[01:12] <thegladiator> kde is not unstable , atleast not that version
[01:12] <thegladiator> 3.4.3 is almost bleeding edge
[01:13] <kessler> Then what could it be? The gfx card have been testet throughly in windows without any problems so i doubt it could be a hardware error causing this
[01:14] <thegladiator> kessler, whats ur graphics card ?
[01:14] <thegladiator> did you try installaing nvidia ?
[01:14] <kessler> club3d gforce 6600gt
[01:14] <thegladiator> kubuntu i guess shud have taken it
[01:14] <thegladiator> so that couldnt be the issue
[01:14] <thegladiator> RAM ?
[01:16] <kessler> Sorry, you were saying?
[01:16] <kessler> it just crashed on me again, but this time i was able to keep it going with ctrl+alt+backspace
[01:16] <thegladiator> ur RAM is 256 or greater ?
[01:17] <kessler> RAM? Well, it could be, but i doubt it. Tested both the ram and cpu with memtest and cpuburn with zero errors
[01:17] <kessler> yes, 1024mb
[01:17] <thegladiator> kessler, thats great .
[01:18] <kessler> well, thats how you look at it. It's unstable as **** :P
[01:18] <C-O-L-T> who has installed ww2d program like google earth?????????????
[01:18] <thegladiator> kessler, i cant understand the problem here actually . if is kubunyu install kde musnt crash like the way it does for you .
[01:18] <thegladiator> kessler, why dont try Gnome and see if its the instability problem with kde ?
[01:19] <thegladiator> kessler, try installing ubuntu-desktop package from repos ?
[01:19] <kessler> I think might be the nvidia driver. The colors are the same as i've seen them when a driver is not installed correctly. Is this possible?
[01:20] <kessler> but i'll try installing those
[01:20] <thegladiator> first try installing nvidia driver
[01:20] <thegladiator> !+nvidia
[01:20] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[01:20] <C-O-L-T> who has installed ww2d program like google earth?????????????
[01:20] <thegladiator> C-O-L-T, a.k.a spam bomb . wait till you get a reply
[01:21] <thegladiator> C-O-L-T, i havent installed nyways
[01:21] <kessler> thegladiator: i'm having trouble with the first 7 steps
[01:21] <Tm_T> C-O-L-T: use one questionmark and don't repeat all the time
[01:22] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: Yesterday I found this program and I am really interested in it. But I am a new user and I can not make the install http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Introduction
[01:22] <apokryphos> pinucset: change your mouse theme, of course 8)
[01:22] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: help me if you can
[01:22] <thegladiator> C-O-L-T, i gave u a suggestion . the program is interesting . so ask in #ubuntu and dont spam since they are less tolerant than #kubuntu
[01:23] <thegladiator> thats called meta-help , help hidden in help :p
[01:23] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: nobody wants to help me, at #ubuntu, they are not helpful at all
[01:24] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: When I post my question nobody answers to it, that is why I am spamming
[01:25] <thegladiator> i know its tuf , but even spamming hardly helps . just wait or try out in other channels as well
[01:26] <thegladiator> how do enable the sound in KDE ? the system sounds ?
[01:26] <apokryphos> C-O-L-T: no, that doesn't justify spamming.
[01:26] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: you've been warned about spamming before.  if no one replies, either no one is awake, or no one knows the answer to the question
[01:26] <Hobbsee> thegladiator: sound section of system settings
[01:26] <Tm_T> actually spamming is main reason why I don't help... ;--P
[01:26] <thegladiator> i went to System Settings ->  Sounds
[01:26] <CGA> hi all
[01:26] <thegladiator> but the problem is it is still not working .
[01:26] <C-O-L-T> I understand everything. But then what to do
[01:27] <Tm_T> C-O-L-T: http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Download
[01:27] <thegladiator> the options are system sounds which has been marked with a X and also the networked sound option whioch has ben marked with X
[01:27] <Tm_T> read it
[01:27] <Tm_T> C-O-L-T: and ask specified questions
[01:27] <thegladiator> still the sounds doesnt seem to work
[01:27] <C-O-L-T> Tm_T: I know. I have followed the instructions, but I can not install jar files
[01:27] <Tm_T> install jar...
[01:27] <C-O-L-T> Tm_T: I have installed Java Runtime Enviroment
[01:27] <thegladiator> C-O-L-T, have you installed sun' s java ?
[01:28] <Tm_T> C-O-L-T: you install it by running it
[01:28] <C-O-L-T> I've got the deb files from seveas repository
[01:28] <ninnghizidha> how can i turn of the use of the documents-folder?
[01:28] <thegladiator> Hobbsee, whats the problem any ideas ?
[01:29] <St0n3-C0l>  I want to run both gnome and kde on the same box and....I updated my repos to dapper and did kubuntu-desktop it gave one condition " To remove all gnome apps and install kde apps " Any Help ??
[01:29] <C-O-L-T> Tm_T: I have installed Java from seveas repository the deb one, but still  i can not run the jar file
[01:29] <Hobbsee> thegladiator: try going to system notifications tab, player settings
[01:29] <Hobbsee> make sure it's set to "use teh KDE sound system"
[01:30] <Hobbsee> *the
[01:30] <Tm_T> I give up... doesn't give anything
[01:31] <thegladiator> Hobbsee, how do I make sure it syses de sound system ?
[01:31] <Hobbsee> tick the box :P
[01:31] <thegladiator> kde start/exit cant be previews it seems
[01:31] <thegladiator> sounds i mean
[01:32] <thegladiator> yep I saw that one
[01:32] <thegladiator> now lwt me restart the X and see
[01:32] <thegladiator> brb
[01:33] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: As I see Tm_T went away, I have installed Java from seveas repository given to me by ubotu. But I still can not run the jar file
[01:33] <thegladiator> yeah weird opening sound :)
[01:37] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: :(
[01:38] <Silfar> I'm need help for install printer HP Laserjet 1022
[01:38] <Hobbsee> !printer
[01:38] <ubotu> methinks printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[01:46] <visik7> why sudo doesn't remember my password in the same terminal ?
[01:46] <visik7> Imean
[01:46] <Huffalump> Is this the appropriate place to ask a question or two regarding my attempts at using the Kubuntu live cd?
[01:46] <visik7> if I do sudo something
[01:46] <visik7> and then another sudo command ok
[01:46] <apokryphos> visik7: it does, but only for  15 mins
[01:47] <apokryphos> Huffalump: sure
[01:47] <visik7> apokryphos: ok how to remove 15min timeout ?
[01:47] <apokryphos> visik7: man sudo
[01:48] <apokryphos> visik7: or man sudoers, more specifically.
[01:49] <Huffalump> I used the Ubuntu 32-bit live cd on a laptop and desktop; very nice.  Now, I am trying Kubuntu 64-bit on my amd64 box... and I am trying to adjust the network settings so I can configure my wifi card.  This window currently grays out my nic listings (present but grayed) and there is a notice that I must click "Administrator Mode" to allow modifications.  Now, the window is larger than the screen!  And I cannot resize the window, apparently.  After a couple
[01:50] <apokryphos> Huffalump: use ctrl+right-mouse-button to move the window
[01:50] <visik7> apokryphos: if I put a NOPASSWORD in sudoers ksu still ask me for a pwd ?
[01:50] <slow-motion> hallo
[01:51] <Huffalump> I don't seem to understand.
[01:51] <apokryphos> visik7: that's not just how you'd do it. Also, please please don't muck around with the sudoers if you're not sure. You can get into a lot of problems :P
[01:51] <Huffalump> When I ctrl+right click... I get options to move the Toolbar portion of the window
[01:51] <apokryphos> (i.e. muck up your sudoers -- no more sudo for you 8))
[01:51] <apokryphos> Huffalump: sorry, left-mouse-button
[01:51] <apokryphos> visik7: put this in:
[01:52] <Huffalump> Ah, I tried this and it allows me to move up, down, left, and right.
[01:52] <Huffalump> However, It never allows me to resize the window so I can see the whole bloody thing.
[01:52] <apokryphos> visik7: username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[01:52] <Huffalump> Also, I tried resizing from the corners and that is not working.
[01:52] <visik7> apokryphos: in sarge if I put nopassword in sudoers  sudo command works without asking me any password
[01:52] <visik7> but
[01:52] <apokryphos> visik7: note that (i) that is insecure, and (ii) replace "username" with your username.
[01:52] <visik7> do ksu do the same ?
[01:52] <apokryphos> ksu?
[01:52] <visik7> sorry
[01:53] <visik7> kdesu
[01:53] <apokryphos> do you mean kdesu?
[01:53] <apokryphos> yes, it will.
[01:53] <visik7> oh ok
[01:53] <visik7> thanks
[01:53] <visik7> yes I know that it's insecure
[01:53] <apokryphos> Huffalump: if you can move tehw indow then surely you can move it to have that button visible, no?
[01:53] <Huffalump> I also tried resizing the desktop (1024x768 seems to be max under Kubuntu) and yet, the Network Settings is *still* larger than the whole screen.
[01:53] <Huffalump> I am not sure how to describe it to you, but no.
[01:53] <apokryphos> Huffalump: what monitor do you have?
[01:53] <Huffalump> I can move the window down... so its almost all offscreen...
[01:54] <Huffalump> But, I cannot move it, for example, above the screen ...
[01:54] <visik7> I don't gat the problem of network settings window larger than the scree
[01:54] <apokryphos> Huffalump: why ever not?
[01:54] <visik7> (1024x768
[01:54] <Huffalump> I dont know.
[01:54] <Huffalump> It is an LCD
[01:54] <apokryphos> Huffalump: ok, just alt+f2 -> kdesu systemsettings
[01:54] <visik7> Huffalump: try to move the window using alt and left mouse button
[01:54] <CGA> !help
[01:54] <kinfo> Available commands: !help, !uptime, !netuse, ??, !!, !cs, !whoset, !learn, !relearn, !forget, !topten, !status
[01:54] <apokryphos> kinfo: you again!
[01:55] <apokryphos> hm
[01:55] <Huffalump> hmmm
[01:55] <Huffalump> let me restate
[01:55] <Huffalump> I can move the window left
[01:55] <Huffalump> I can move the window right
[01:55] <Huffalump> I can move the window down
[01:55] <Huffalump> I cannot move it up
[01:55] <Huffalump> in order to find the buttons at the bottom
[01:55] <apokryphos> Huffalump: please stop flooding
[01:56] <Huffalump> Furthermore, I cannot resize the windows in order to find the buttons.    (ok, re flooding)
[01:58] <apokryphos> Huffalump: I really doubt that, if you followed what me or visik7 said, but anyway -- try the last thing I said.
[01:58] <Huffalump> Trust me, the window is ganked.  However, your little line command DID work for me.  And now I have access to configure, but seem to have a new problem...
[02:00] <visik7> Huffalump: using alt+left-mouse-button you can click in every point of the window even the lowest so you can drag the window up
[02:00] <Huffalump> I can select either ath0 or eth0.  In my case, I want to use ath0, so I select it and click "Configure Interface" and then set it to DHCP.  I click okay.  I reselect ath0 from the main Network Settings menu, right click, select Enable Interace... a little progress window pops up to say its enabling it.  Great!  And I see the green checkmark for about 1 second... and then it revers to the red X.  Any pointers where I might go to solve that?
[02:01] <Huffalump> Ah, ALT+left does work.  Thank you.  (Ctrl did not, perhaps I misread.)
[02:04] <kessler> Hmm, i tried installing nvidia drivers using the guide from !nvidia. But when i use "nvidia" in xorg.conf the screen just turns black. If i change it to "nv", it works like a charm (except 3d and stability though)
[02:04] <manveru> kessler, since when is nv not stable?
[02:05] <kessler> manveru: i can't tell if it's nv that is not stable, but something definately isnt. So i'm just trying different things to make it more stable. Besides, i need the nvidia driver anyway for 3d.
[02:06] <kessler> I use a lcd monitor connected through DVI input. Anything i have to change/do in order to make that work with the nvidia driver?
[02:06] <amigrave> how can I disable automount for usb drives and autostart of kscd when inserting an audiocd ?
[02:07] <visik7> kessler:  check if the module is loaded
[02:07] <visik7> amigrave: in kcontrol
[02:08] <visik7> amigrave: under device->storage device -> advanced
[02:08] <amigrave> visik7: ok, I thought kcontrol was useless since it was removed from the menu. Thanks
[02:08] <visik7> maybe someone should put this in the wiki
[02:08] <kessler> visik7: can i get a hint on how to do that? dmesg | grep what?
[02:08] <visik7> amigrave: alt+f2 kcontrol
[02:09] <visik7> btw in the menu there is storage device somewhere
[02:10] <visik7> kessler:  lsmod
[02:10] <Huffalump> Is it a limitation of using a Kubuntu-64 Live CD to not be able to configure the wifi card?  (I did not have that limitation using Ubuntu-32 on a different machine, but perhaps this live cd works differently...)
[02:12] <amigrave> visik7: the device root node is only kde 3.5 ? Can't find it
[02:13] <visik7> amigrave: dunno I'm using 3.5 never use  3.0 < kde < 3.5
[02:13] <dsbonzo> How does one go about configuring a wireless lan device that has appropriate modules loaded, and an entry /etc/network/interfaces, but gives "unknown interface" responses to ifup?
[02:14] <kessler> visik7: i can find both nvidia, nvidia_agp and agpgart in lsmod
[02:14] <visik7> kessler: good news
[02:14] <amigrave> visik7: is there a stable repository for kde3.5 for breezy ?
[02:14] <visik7> amigrave: sure
[02:14] <joshisscifi> dsbonzo: what does iwconfig tell you?
[02:15] <visik7> amigrave: add this deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main to your soruces.list
[02:15] <dsbonzo> spits out lo, eth0 and wlan0 and says "no wireless extensions" for each one.
[02:15] <amigrave> visik7: thanks
[02:15] <joshisscifi> dsbonzo: even for wlan0?
[02:15] <kessler> visik7: yes, i guess that means the driver is installed correctly? Now i just have to figure out why i cannot get an image on my screen when using "nvidia" over "nv"
[02:15] <dsbonzo> yes sir
[02:16] <amigrave> visik7: I guess I'll have problems if I'm using kde packages in universe or multiverse !?
[02:16] <visik7> kessler: check /var/log/xorg.log or something like that
[02:16] <visik7> amigrave: sorry ?
[02:16] <joshisscifi> dsbonzo: which wireless card are you using?
[02:17] <dsbonzo> joshisscifi: hawking hi-gain usb wireless interface (prism2 chipset)
[02:17] <hawking> ?
[02:17] <amigrave> visik7: If I'm using a kde program that is in multiverse, will it work if I upgrade to kde 3.5 ?
[02:17] <visik7> probably
[02:17] <visik7> tell me one
[02:17] <thegladiator> can someone help me in installing kde 3.5 ?
[02:17] <joshisscifi> dsbonzo: I'd check the ubuntu forums
[02:17] <visik7> and maybe I can check
[02:18] <Tm_T> thegladiator: what about it?
[02:18] <hawking> kde 3.5 is not so stable I guess :&
[02:18] <visik7> thegladiator: got the repository and do an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[02:18] <Tm_T> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[02:18] <visik7> hawking: really not :)
[02:18] <thegladiator> visik7, kde 3.5 is in the repo's ?
[02:18] <thegladiator> spirit is that you ?
[02:18] <kessler> visik7: i'm sorry to bother you again, but i searched for xorg.log but i could not locate it
[02:18] <visik7> thegladiator: in a separate repo
[02:18] <thegladiator> hawking=spirit ? :p
[02:19] <hawking> visik7 : is there a way to get back to my older kde version?
[02:19] <thegladiator> visik7, which repo ?
[02:19] <visik7> kessler: do u have this file ? /var/log/Xorg.0.log ???????
[02:19] <hawking> thegladiator ;)
[02:19] <visik7> hawking: using pin and some voodoo ritual yes
[02:19] <thegladiator> i got this suggestion from #ubuntu
[02:19] <thegladiator> thegladiator: add the url to your sources.list to get kde 3.5
[02:19] <visik7> thegladiator: check the log
[02:20] <hawking> visik7 : or just reinstall whole system which is not a problem with 100mbps internet :p
[02:20] <kessler> visik7: lol, sorry. Embarrasing that i missed that one. Used all the search functions i know, but failed to do a simple "ls" =(
[02:20] <visik7> hawking: as you want
[02:20] <visik7> kessler: np
[02:21] <thegladiator> visik7,  http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35
[02:21] <thegladiator> how can I download the deb?
[02:21] <thegladiator>  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main ?
[02:22] <thegladiator> would do it ?
[02:22] <visik7> the one that I paste 10 minutes ago ?
[02:22] <visik7> yes
[02:23] <thegladiator> where sources.list?
[02:23] <thegladiator> is*
[02:23] <visik7> thegladiator: maybe you should rtfm more
[02:23] <thegladiator> !sources
[02:23] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:24] <amigrave> visik7: ksubtitleripper
[02:24] <ProtectYaNeck> whenever I click enable to enable my internet connection on the live cd the green check will appear for a second then turn back into a red x
[02:24] <visik7> amigrave: yes it will work
[02:25] <ProtectYaNeck> any ideas?
[02:25] <kessler> Think we're getting somewhere now. It says something about hsync being out of range, even though i used the settings printed in the manual. What are the default hsync/vsync settings for a 19" lcd monitor?
[02:25] <amigrave> visik7: is kde3.5 worth it in comparison to 3.4 ?
[02:25] <Huffalump> ProtectYaNeck, I have the EXACT same problem.
[02:26] <ProtectYaNeck> no kidding
[02:26] <ProtectYaNeck> what kind of network card are you trying to enable?
[02:26] <alejandro> !w32codecs
[02:26] <Huffalump> atheros on Kubuntu-64
[02:26] <ubotu> w32codecs is probably a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[02:26] <Huffalump> Previously, I got it to work... on Ubuntu-32
[02:27] <ProtectYaNeck> hmm, maybe I should try a ubuntu live cd and see if the problem is present
[02:27] <Huffalump> I am holding out for an answer =] 
[02:27] <visik7> amigrave: .0 of kde should not be installed from the faint of heart
[02:27] <visik7> s/from/by
[02:27] <visik7> oh my english sucks :(
[02:27] <Huffalump> looks fine to me, visik7
[02:28] <visik7> Huffalump: not to me :)
[02:28] <visik7> by the way ... if someone want to try kde 3.5 I suggest to wait the 20 of jan when 3.5.1 will come out
[02:29] <thegladiator> is it possible to open file manager in super user mode other than from the shell using sudo ?
[02:29] <ProtectYaNeck> Huffalump, how long have you been having this problem?
[02:29] <thegladiator> fc4 has file manager superUser
[02:29] <Huffalump> Just today; I got Kubuntu-64 loaded in the last hour or less...
[02:30] <visik7> the_nino: kdesu command
[02:30] <visik7> ops
[02:30] <visik7> thegladiator: kdesu command
[02:30] <visik7> thegladiator: alt+f2 kdesu command
[02:30] <joshisscifi> bbial
[02:30] <ProtectYaNeck> well I'm gonna stick around too then, drop me a line if you get an answer
[02:31] <Huffalump> can do
[02:31] <Huffalump> I saw another guy on #ubuntu with a similar problem, but no answer
[02:31] <thegladiator> kdesu is not there in my sys ?
[02:31] <thegladiator> when i run that nothing comes up
[02:32] <thegladiator> Qt: Locales not supported on X server
[02:32] <thegladiator> kdesu: No command specified.
[02:32] <thegladiator> kdesu: Use --help to get a list of available command line options.
[02:32] <ProtectYaNeck> I'd like to have that resolved before I actually format and install
[02:33] <Huffalump> Yes, I would not like to install something which appears not to work!  Heh.
[02:33] <visik7> thegladiator: kdesu <command you want to run with root privelege>
[02:33] <thegladiator> thanks
[02:33] <thegladiator> nothing in GUI for that ?
[02:33] <thegladiator> like file user in super user mode stuff as in fc4
[02:33] <visik7> thegladiator: it'll ask the password with a dialog
[02:34] <thegladiator> ah yep
[02:34] <visik7> never used fc4
[02:34] <visik7> never used a redhat after 6.2
[02:34] <visik7> to be honest :)
[02:34] <Huffalump> FC4 was pretty good.  But I am thinking to migrate, if I can get something working properly...
[02:35] <visik7> I hate rpm
[02:35] <visik7> I hate yom
[02:35] <visik7> yum
[02:35] <Huffalump> I dislike *all* linux install routines.
[02:35] <visik7> and other stupid things that FC does
[02:35] <Huffalump> The new PBI on PC-BSD looks fun, however.
[02:35] <visik7> Huffalump: apt has supercow powers :)
[02:35] <thegladiator> visik7, i did kdesu konqueror still I cant edit sources.list
[02:36] <thegladiator> it says user has no privileges
[02:37] <visik7> thegladiator: open konqueror as normal
[02:37] <visik7> right click
[02:37] <visik7> actions-> edit as root
[02:37] <thegladiator> thanks
[02:37] <Huffalump> ProtectYaNeck, if you select your device and click Configure Interface... in the resulting window, is your Advanced Settings grayed out?  Mine is.  And I am just curious.
[02:38] <ProtectYaNeck> advanced settings isn't greyed out on mine
[02:38] <kessler> I just installed the nvidia drivers. However, when i use nvidia in the xorg.conf i get a black screen, and the log says something about hsync being out of range. However, if i change nvidia to nv in xorg.conf, kde starts up just fine. What could be wrong? I used the settings for vsync/hsync specified in the manual. nvidia, nvidia_agp and agpgart modules are loaded
[02:40] <Huffalump> heh, I shut down the system and the "Deconfiguring network interfaces" process failed
[02:42] <visik7> kessler: set your hsync
[02:42] <visik7> kessler: to a lower value
[02:42] <visik7> have you an lcd monitor ?
[02:42] <visik7> or crt ?
[02:42] <kessler> visik7: lcd
[02:43] <visik7> ok so put it to 60 and forgot it :P
[02:43] <kessler> vsync as well?
[02:43] <cleo> I would comment them out ;D
[02:43] <visik7> oh sorry vsync :)
[02:44] <kessler> there
[02:44] <kessler> i've commented them out
[02:44] <kessler> should i try ctrl+alt+backspace now?
[02:44] <visik7> bad practice
[02:45] <kessler> hmm?
[02:45] <visik7> ctrl+alt+backspace from kdm
[02:45] <visik7> not from kde
[02:45] <kessler> log out then? Is that enough to restart x?
[02:46] <visik7> logout and ctrl+alt+bkspc
[02:50] <some_dude> hi
[02:50] <some_dude> what file controls the what services get started on boot ?
[02:50] <kessler> Hmm, that didn't work
[02:51] <thegladiator> in XChat I cant open a link in mozilla
[02:51] <thegladiator> how do I correct this ?
[02:51] <thegladiator> I can open in konqueror though
[02:51] <kessler> The logs still says every resolution has hsync wrong. Default resolution is "Too large for visual blah". What could be wrong?
[02:52] <thegladiator> www.kde-look.org
[02:52] <kessler> Btw, i've commented hsync/vrefresh out in xorg.conf now, and even with the nv driver, it seems a bit off. It doesnt fill out the whole screen. It's like watching a 16:9 movie on a 4:3 screen
[02:52] <cleo> some_dude: start scripts are located in /etc/init.d/ and they are controlled by /etc/rcX.d (X represents runlevel) - you can edit these entries with "update-rc.d"... read manual page
[02:52] <thegladiator> when I click on that link for eg , it doesnt open nothing
[02:52] <visik7> kessler: is it a laptop or a desktop ?
[02:53] <kessler> desktop
[02:53] <thegladiator> I have to manually right click on the link and openw tih konqueror
[02:53] <kessler> viewsonic vs924
[02:53] <kessler> geforce 6600gt
[02:53] <kessler> dvi input
[02:53] <visik7> put your log & conf file into some pastebin
[02:53] <kessler> 2 secs
[02:56] <kessler> visik7: http://pastebin.dk/index.php?show=1362
[02:56] <ToyMan> anyone around?
[02:57] <ToyMan> I could use a clue with an upgrade problem
[02:57] <ToyMan> trying to upgrade to kde 3.5 beta 1
[02:57] <cleo> kessler: comment out ALL *sync entries
[02:58] <jpatrick> ToyMan: why?
[02:58] <kessler> cleo: tried that, didnt work
[02:58] <cleo> kessler: VerRefresh aswell?
[02:58] <ToyMan> jpatrick: well, I was using konq profiles a lot
[02:58] <thegladiator> ToyMan, i am installing kde 3.5 now
[02:58] <kessler> cleo: all
[02:58] <ToyMan> and in 3.4 they seemed to be broken
[02:58] <cleo> mhh
[02:58] <jpatrick> ToyMan: just install 3.5
[02:58] <ToyMan> i'd read that it was fixed in 3.5
[02:58] <visik7> kessler: remove the horizontal entry and keep the vertical
[02:59] <ToyMan> what's the repository for that?
[02:59] <thegladiator> toy man here is the link
[02:59] <jpatrick> see /topic
[02:59] <ToyMan> ah
[02:59] <thegladiator> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[02:59] <ToyMan> duh
[02:59] <thegladiator> this is the repo
[02:59] <kessler> visik7: i'll try that
[02:59] <kessler> brb
[02:59] <thegladiator> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php see this page to isntall
[03:01] <visik7> kessler btw your problem is another
[03:03] <Yon> does any1 here have sudoku?
[03:04] <Yon> i got one from synoptics but it doesnt work
[03:04] <cleo> ksudoku?
[03:05] <kessler> Hmm, didnt work
[03:05] <thegladiator> kde 3.5 is much better than 3.4.3 ?
[03:05] <thegladiator> installation in underway
[03:05] <kessler> Tried wth vsync off, tried with hsync off, tried with both off, tried with both on, tried different hsync/vsync settings, nothing. Still just shows a black screen
[03:05] <Yon> cleo no it was gnome sudoku
[03:06] <Yon> its the only one i found
[03:06] <cleo> Yon: enable universe repository and install ksudoku
[03:07] <cleo> and don't chat as root :D
[03:07] <kessler> visik7: you have any idea what could be wrong?
[03:07] <visik7> kessler the log file is the one that's works not the one that doesn't !!!
[03:08] <Yon> cleo wat does it make a diffrence if im root or not? its easyer to do stuff in root
[03:08] <visik7> kessler: the monitor goes off ?
[03:08] <kessler> yes. The monitors OSD shows "No signal"
[03:08] <visik7> ok
[03:08] <visik7> and the log is wrong
[03:08] <visik7> give me the right Xorg.log (the one that fail
[03:08] <visik7> s
[03:08] <kessler> sorry, i'm not really sure what i'm looking for in the log
[03:10] <visik7> the Xorg.log.0 is generated every X start
[03:10] <kessler> oooh
[03:10] <visik7> so if u paste me after a successfull X boot
[03:10] <visik7> I can't see the error...
[03:10] <visik7> you know ?
[03:10] <Yon> cleo i have a comment that is disabled saying ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[03:10] <jpatrick> Yon: and?
[03:11] <jpatrick> Yon: that's the MOTU's jobs
[03:11] <Yon> iv enabled every link, so i dont know why i dont have ksuduku
[03:11] <Yon> wats MOTU?
[03:11] <jpatrick> sudo apt-get update
[03:11] <jpatrick> !motu
[03:11] <ubotu> methinks motu is the Masters of the Universe ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU )
[03:13] <ProtectYaNeck> Huffalump, same problem in ubuntu
[03:13] <kessler> visik7: http://pastebin.dk/index.php?show=1363
[03:13] <kessler> should be the right log
[03:13] <ProtectYaNeck> says it's enabled, it's configurable, but to connection
[03:14] <Huffalump> I am getting nowhere fast, protectyaneck
[03:14] <Huffalump> It says enabled?
[03:14] <ProtectYaNeck> yeah
[03:14] <Huffalump> Wow, thats progress.
[03:14] <Huffalump> Ubuntu 64?
[03:14] <ProtectYaNeck> not 64
[03:14] <Yon> ok, i have my universe resps fully updated and i still dont have ksudoku
[03:14] <Yon> :/
[03:14] <Huffalump> ah, I did get mine to work under U-32
[03:14] <visik7> kessler: no error there
[03:14] <kessler> visik7: i can see it saying something about vga. It shouldn't use vga, it should use dvi.
[03:14] <Huffalump> Connected and all.
[03:15] <ProtectYaNeck> oh
[03:15] <visik7> kessler: nevermind
[03:15] <ProtectYaNeck> on a live cd?
[03:15] <Huffalump> Yep!
[03:15] <ProtectYaNeck> hmm
[03:15] <visik7> kessler: the log is from a successfull start of X
[03:15] <Huffalump> It detected and enabled it, automagically.  I just configured and connected.  It was like 30 seconds... very easy.
[03:16] <Huffalump> Same for PCLinuxOS, for that matter.  Super-simple.
[03:16] <ProtectYaNeck> wow, mine says enabled and everything, but I can't connect
[03:16] <kessler> I think x starts up fine. I just think it outputs the signal to the vga port instead of the dvi
[03:16] <visik7> kessler: enable ssh
[03:16] <visik7> kessler: and after X is started
[03:16] <thegladiator> I installed kde 3.5 just now
[03:16] <visik7> log into it
[03:16] <thegladiator> no real difference I can feel
[03:16] <thegladiator> any changes in the look and feel ?
[03:17] <thegladiator> or its all the inside stuff?
[03:17] <visik7> kessler: ok I missunderstood your problem
[03:17] <Huffalump> Are you able to remove your wifi encryption, for testing purposes?  (i.e., open network)
[03:17] <Huffalump> I did that because I read too much junk about WPA
[03:17] <kessler> visik7: Okay. How do i enable sshd?
[03:17] <visik7> kessler: nevermind wrong solution
[03:17] <visik7> kessler: let me think
[03:19] <visik7> kessler: maybe you can try to enable twin view
[03:19] <kessler> okay?
[03:19] <visik7> the ? stands for ?
[03:20] <thegladiator> how do I configure konqueror so that  a new window is opened and not tabs ?
[03:20] <thegladiator> nto for the webbrowser
[03:20] <thegladiator> but when I view hda deviced etc
[03:20] <kessler> visik7: i have no idea how to enable it :P
[03:20] <visik7> kessler: google says http://www.gmpf.de/index.php/NVidia:Twin_View
[03:21] <ninniuz> hi is anyone using D-Link 504T router?
[03:26] <kessler> here we go again
[03:27] <kessler> visik7: wicked awesome! it works! Thanks a lot mate
[03:27] <visik7> really ?
[03:27] <kessler> really
[03:27] <kessler> =)
[03:27] <kessler> even showed the nvidia logo and all
[03:28] <visik7> good I've a dvi monitor too but never used linux on so I bookmark this page maybe will be usefull
[03:28] <visik7> btw also the other output now is enable
[03:28] <visik7> but I don't think that is a problem
[03:28] <kessler> yeah, so if i for some reason wants to use vga, i still can
[03:31] <ToyMan> hmm. how do you handle overwrite conflicts during an upgrade?  My upgrade to 3.5 is trying to overwrite /usr/share/services/kresources/kabc/kabc_groupdav.desktop', which is also in package kaddressbook...
[03:32] <visik7> ToyMan: remove kaddressbook or force it
[03:33] <ToyMan> force it?
[03:39] <Huffalump> ProtectYaNeck: good luck!  i am going to try some other distros since no one here seems to know anything about networking
[03:40] <Yon> im trying to install ksudoku that i got from the site
[03:43] <Yon> i type tar -xvvzf ksudoku-0.3.tar.gz like is says in the install file but i get a error saying tar -xvvzf ksudoku-0.3.tar.gz
[03:43] <visik7> too many v
[03:44] <Yon> oh
[03:44] <Yon> i copied and pasted the command
[03:44] <Yon> :P
[03:45] <Yon> bur it gave me the same error
[03:46] <Yon> ?
[03:49] <visik7> I don't see any error
[03:49] <visik7> :)
[03:49] <Yon> huh?
[03:50] <Yon> ok wait, in the readme it says open a shell in the same dir as the read me , so i opend shell and i went to that dir, then i tryed that cmd and i get that error
[03:52] <thegladiator> i would like get a blended look for knqueror
[03:52] <thegladiator> is it possible ?
[03:52] <thegladiator> www.kde-look.org
[03:52] <visik7> Yon: I still don't see any error
[03:54] <thegladiator> is it possible to open a terminal in an arbitray folder ?
[03:55] <thegladiator> like say I am browsing a folder dektop and I need to open the terminal in the same folder and not in the home folder
[03:56] <thegladiator> i get this error : checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
[03:56] <thegladiator> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[03:56] <thegladiator> See `config.log' for more details.
[03:57] <thegladiator> how can I correct this ?
[03:57] <Yon> visik7, bru wat r u talking about?
[03:58] <thegladiator> how to install build essential ?
[03:58] <cleo> apt-get install build-essential
[04:00] <slicslak> what app should i use to connect to or backup my palm pilot?
[04:04] <cleo> slicslak: maybe http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6807 helps you
[04:05] <Yon> cleo, i downloaded the ksudoku from the site, but im having problems installing it
[04:05] <kessler> Hmm, when i open quake4 (800x600) the monitor doesnt rescale. I shows quake4 with big black borders around it
[04:06] <cleo> Yon: I don't use breezy... in dapper I simply could install it through apt-get/universe repository
[04:06] <slicslak> thx cleo
[04:06] <cleo> Yon: what problems?
[04:08] <Yon> ok, i extracted the file and typed in the command tar -xvvzf ksudoku-0.3.tar.gz
[04:08] <Yon>  like it told me in the readme and i get the error tar: ksudoku-0.3.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[04:08] <thegladiator> whats the best package manager ? gui for #k ?
[04:09] <thegladiator> kubuntu ?
[04:09] <thegladiator> synaptic doesnt work with me in kde
[04:09] <thegladiator> I dontlike the adept interface much
[04:10] <cleo> thegladiator: I heard something about kynaptic ...but never tried it... I use apt-get
[04:10] <raphink> kubuntu is shipped with adept as package manager
[04:10] <raphink> there's also kynaptic and kpackage, but they are not as good imo
[04:10] <thegladiator> ah adept doesnt suit my tatste
[04:10] <thegladiator> you prefer adept ?
[04:10] <raphink> I personally prefer to use the console for package management
[04:10] <thegladiator> ah
[04:10] <raphink> apt-get is so complete that using a gui isnot necessary for me
[04:11] <raphink> I say adept is the default one for kubuntu
[04:11] <raphink> but I use no GUI
[04:11] <cleo> Yon: tar -xvvfz ksudoku-03.tar.gz is the extract command
[04:11] <thegladiator> true gui gives a search filter and stuff which I prefer over the command line search
[04:11] <raphink> hmm ok
[04:11] <cleo> Yon: so if you extracted the files before and are in the wrong directory...it cannot find the archive
[04:12] <raphink> apt-cache search foo | grep bar
[04:12] <raphink> is a good filter too ;)
[04:12] <thegladiator> yep :) but need to type :)
[04:12] <Yon> cleo, oh right ok, now it makes sence thanks
[04:12] <raphink> thegladiator: sure, you'd need to learn to type fast enough ;)
[04:13] <thegladiator> ;p
[04:13] <raphink> hehe
[04:13] <cleo> apt-get, apt-cache and apt-file is (nearly) all you need :D
[04:14] <thegladiator> old windows habits :)
[04:14] <raphink> apt-file is far too slow for me
[04:14] <Yon> wen i run Run "./configure --prefix=`kdeconfig --prefix`" i get the error configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[04:14] <thegladiator> click click and click
[04:14] <thegladiator> Yon
[04:15] <cleo> raphink: what do you use?
[04:15] <thegladiator> install build essential
[04:15] <raphink> oh really thegladiator ? how does windows deal with packages?
[04:15] <raphink> cleo: what for?
[04:15] <Yon> ok
[04:15] <thegladiator> windows world has no command lines
[04:16] <raphink> thegladiator: YOUR windows world has no command lines
[04:16] <cleo> raphink:  to search in which package a specific file is included
[04:16] <raphink> thegladiator: the windows world of real windows users and administrators uses command lines ;)
[04:16] <raphink> cleo: dpkg -S
[04:16] <Yon> thnx thegladiator
[04:16] <cleo> raphink: but you need the package installed for dpkg -S ...don't you?
[04:17] <raphink> thegladiator: windows vista is gonna have a real command line similar to bash actually
[04:17] <raphink> cleo: not sure
[04:17] <raphink> cleo: there was another command, too
[04:17] <fito> hola
[04:17] <raphink> cleo: actually, this kind of search is the only reason for me to use gui ;) I use kio-apt for this most of the time ;)
[04:17] <jpatrick> hola fito
[04:18] <cleo> raphink: ah :)
[04:18] <fito> soy nuevo
[04:18] <Yon> wen i ran that command, i got this error :checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[04:18] <jpatrick> fito: puedes hablar en #kubuntu-es
[04:19] <s_spiff{AWAY}> anyone here has KDE installed on Ubuntu?
[04:19] <cleo> Yon: read the doc and find out what depedencies the package has, maybe you need something like "libx11-dev" ..dunno
[04:20] <wintersun> hi
[04:20] <Yon> oh ok
[04:20] <thegladiator> whats dekorator ?
[04:20] <thegladiator> how do I install window themes using that
[04:20] <kessler> How do i shift my resolution to 800x600 (It is added in xorg.conf)
[04:21] <Blissex> kessler: usually CTRL-ALT-+ or - to cycle through resolutions
[04:22] <s_spiff> what is this kubuntu pastebin?
[04:22] <Yon> cloe under requirements its says these three things
[04:22] <Blissex> s_spiff: just yet another pastebin
[04:22] <Yon> 	- open gl library (also header files)  - mesa3d.org- glu library (also headerfiles) - mesa3d.org  kde headers and libs
[04:22] <s_spiff> whats a pastebin?
[04:23] <s_spiff> what is its function?
[04:23] <cleo> !pastebin
[04:23] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:23] <Yon> so now, is that the packages i need?
[04:23] <s_spiff> ouu ok
[04:23] <cleo> Yon: good question :)
[04:26] <cleo> Yon: *maybe* libglu1-mesa-dev and kde-devel - I really dont know
[04:26] <thegladiator> whn I open system settings - > appearance  -> window manager , the window opened is too big that I cant see the apply button
[04:26] <thegladiator> i cant reduce it
[04:26] <cleo> Yon: use apt-cache search
[04:28] <thegladiator> can someone help ?
[04:28] <thegladiator> the window size is large and doesnt let me to re size it
[04:30] <cleo> thegladiator: that's evil
[04:30] <Yon> cleo: i tryed serching for mesa3d.org and there was nothing
[04:31] <cleo> apt-cache search mesa| grep glu
[04:31] <cleo> libglu1-mesa-dev - The OpenGL utility library -- development support files
[04:32] <Yon> so... i must get libglul-mesa-dev?
[04:32] <cleo> I guess
[04:32] <cleo> do the search on your own, I am using dapper
[04:33] <Yon> yes, i get the same result, but there is one with -dev and one with out, does it matter?
[04:34] <cleo> Yon: mesa3d.org- glu library (also headerfiles) - with headerfiles so take -dev
[04:35] <Yon> oh so, -dev is with headerfiles?
[04:36] <jpatrick> Yon: yes
[04:38] <Yon> cleo, and the other 2?
[04:39] <cleo> kde-devel
[04:40] <cleo> open gl library <- don't know
[04:41] <cleo> Yon: maybe libgl1-mesa-dev
[04:42] <Yon> ok, thanks alot cleo
[04:42] <Yon> i didnt understand how u used apt-serch, u put in a | and stuff
[04:44] <cleo> Yon: I search for "mesa" and pipe (| - forwards standard output to the following program) it through grep (grep filters the output again and looks for "glu")
[04:45] <thegladiator> does anyone know what kind  of error is this ? checking for KDE... configure: error:
[04:45] <thegladiator> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[04:45] <thegladiator> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[04:45] <thegladiator>  ?
[04:46] <thegladiator> i am trying to install a window decoration theme
[04:46] <thegladiator> i just do a ./configure
[04:46] <cleo> thegladiator: maybe you need kde-devel too
[04:46] <thegladiator> let me try that
[04:47] <kameron> how do i change my *default* browser.. so stuff doesn't open in konq, but mozilla when i'm in kde?
[04:48] <thegladiator> cleo, i cant install kde-devel
[04:48] <thegladiator> the error I get it
[04:48] <thegladiator> kde-devel:
[04:48] <thegladiator>  Depends: kdesdk but it is not going to be installed
[04:48] <thegladiator>  Depends: kdelibs4-dev but it is not going to be installed
[04:48] <thegladiator>  Depends: kdebase-dev but it is not going to be installed
[04:48] <thegladiator>  Depends: libkonq4-dev but it is not going to be installed
[04:48] <Yon> ok that makes sence cleo, thanks
[04:48] <thegladiator> when using adept
[04:48] <cleo> try kdebase-dev..:>
[04:48] <thegladiator> why is it not going to be installed ?
[04:48] <jpatrick> thegladiator: the package is kdelibs4-dev
[04:50] <thegladiator> thanks the installtion is underway lets see
[05:02] <Heis> how do i avoid
[05:02] <Heis> lol
[05:02] <thegladiator> !deb
[05:02] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[05:02] <Heis> how can i avoid getting a black screen after loading kubuntu os to my laptop?
[05:03] <Heis> loading from live-cd if that matters...
[05:05] <martalli> Ca I ask for some help on setting up a Netgear MA401 802.11b pcmcia card with kubuntu 10.5 on my thinkpad 600e?
[05:22] <_kim> hei
[05:26] <visik7> someone got kicker and kwin crash in kde35 ?
[05:33] <thegladiator> does nyone know how could I set my konqueror such that the filemanager is not openned in a "tab" mode
[05:33] <thegladiator> like when I click on the home and then somewhere else a tab is added into the old window
[05:34] <thegladiator> I prefer to have seperate windows for each diff clicks , but when it comes to browsing into folders , it shud be same window and no need of tabbing
[05:34] <thegladiator> can someone help me ?
[05:35] <thegladiator> someone awake ?
[05:36] <s_spiff> huh?
[05:36] <thegladiator> !
[05:36] <ubotu> thegladiator: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:36] <Yon> thegladiator, have u looked in options, else cant u right click on the link and say open in new window?
[05:36] <s_spiff> haha..
[05:36] <Heis> suddenly ppl answer.. :P
[05:36] <thegladiator> yeah !
[05:36] <thegladiator> lol
[05:37] <thegladiator> Yon, i need it to work like that be default
[05:37] <thegladiator> wondering if thats there
[05:37] <Heis> maybe someone knows the solution to my black-screen-problem too?
[05:37] <Heis> How can i avoid getting a black screen after loading kubuntu os to my laptop from a live-cd? It loads, and i can hear the login sound, and when i press the powerbutton i can see all the processes terminating. Everything works when i connect an external monitor to my laptop, but never on the built-in screen.
[05:38] <thegladiator> it it something under web-behaviour ? under configure - knoqueeror ?
[05:39] <Yon> thegladiator, ok its under web-behavour and u will c tabbing
[05:39] <kessler> Anyone inhere that can recommend a good video player?
[05:39] <thegladiator> w but that wud mean each time I click on a folder I will have to right click and open a new tab
[05:39] <thegladiator> thanks
[05:39] <thegladiator> kaffeine is good kessler
[05:39] <thegladiator> VLC is also good , but mplayer is the most preffered i guess
[05:40] <Yon> thegladiator, in andvaced options u should find wat u need
[05:40] <thegladiator> advanced option under web behaviour or somewhere else ?
[05:40] <thegladiator> there you go
[05:40] <Yon> in web-behavour under tabbing
[05:40] <thegladiator> yes
[05:40] <thegladiator> let me check it out
[05:40] <Yon> sorry tabbed browser
[05:42] <Heis> noone knows the answer to my q?
[05:42] <thegladiator> the last one is what I shud change ?
[05:42] <thegladiator> Yon, ?
[05:42] <thegladiator> when external urs is called ... that one ?
[05:42] <thegladiator> Yon, or shud I check out the first option ?
[05:43] <thegladiator> or shud I check out all these myself and find out  ?:)
[05:43] <Yon> i think... i think, deselect all
[05:43] <Yon> im not sure
[05:43] <thegladiator> yep thanks
[05:43] <thegladiator> its the last one
[05:44] <Yon> oh ok kewl
[05:45] <s_spiff>  hey i just installed kde, actually in the process of downloading the meta package.... why is it download all the stuff..that was installed when I installed gnome!
[05:45] <s_spiff> its wastage of space!
[05:46] <s_spiff> helllo!!!
[05:48] <s_spiff> hey while downloading the KDE metapackage, libaudio-dev failed downloading, what to do?
[05:53] <DocTomoe> How can I enforce a version, even if its dependencies are somewhat broken?
[05:55] <Yon> jpatrick, im having troubles installing sumthing, its not working out, u think u could help me?
[05:55] <Yon> nvm...
[05:56] <Blissex> s_spiff: retry, probably the mirror was busy or something like that.
[05:56] <jpatrick> yep?
[05:57] <Yon> hehe :) jpatrick im having trouble configuring it
[05:58] <Yon> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[05:58] <jpatrick> install: libx11-dev
[05:58] <jpatrick> !info libx11-dev
[05:59] <Yon> jpatrick, i have it installed
[05:59] <jpatrick> Yon: make sure you configure with the --prefix=/usr flag
[05:59] <jpatrick> that's odd
[05:59] <Yon> oh, i didnt
[06:00] <Yon> i added that and i got a very diffrent error
[06:00] <jpatrick> ?
[06:01] <Yon> can i plz paste 3 lines?
[06:01] <jpatrick> no
[06:01] <jpatrick> 2 max
[06:02] <jpatrick> what is it?
[06:02] <Yon> checking build system type... Invalid configuration `flag': machine `flag' not r                ecognized
[06:02] <Yon> configure: error: /bin/sh admin/config.sub flag failed
[06:02] <Yon> there the last 2 lines
[06:02] <Yon> i dont think the first is important
[06:02] <jpatrick> :/
[06:02] <jpatrick> it's: "./configure --prefix=/usr"
[06:02] <Yon> it says confiure warning use --build, --host --target
[06:02] <Yon> or sumthing like that
[06:03] <jpatrick> I'm not sure
[06:03] <Yon> oh ye now its working
[06:03] <Yon> ok, i got the same error as my first
[06:04] <Yon> cheacking for x.....
[06:04] <Madeye> Hi,
[06:04] <jpatrick> lo Madeye Moody
[06:05] <Madeye> I have problem with k3b, actually it's new laptop install, 'CDRecord has no permission to open the device'.'You may use k3bsetup2 to solve this problem'
[06:06] <Madeye> k3bsetup is running, but I don't know what I have to do :-)
[06:08] <Yon> if i dont config cant i still compile?
[06:09] <jpatrick> Yon: it won't let you compile if you don't
[06:09] <abot> Does anyone know the expected release date for Dapper?
[06:09] <jpatrick> !dapper
[06:09] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[06:10] <abot> Great, thx!
[06:11] <Madeye> anyone can help with the mentioned cdrecord problem
[06:14] <Blissex> Madeye: you need to put your user in the 'cdrom' group, it is a FAQ
[06:16] <Madeye> Blissex, where I can find that FAQS
[06:16] <Blissex> Madeye: usually on the Ubuntu Wiki
[06:21] <jpatrick> !docs
[06:21] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, docs is an index of documentation on the Ubuntu Wiki - you can find it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[06:24] <_mike> lop
[06:26] <thegladiator> hi
[06:26] <gregus> van valaki magyar?
[06:29] <dandielionous> Hello
[06:29] <dandielionous> I was wondering does kubuntu have something like a registry.
[06:30] <dandielionous> Where programs have to write to regedit.
[06:30] <jpatrick> dandielionous: like Windows registry?
[06:30] <dandielionous> yes
[06:30] <dandielionous> ty for answering jpatrick
[06:30] <jpatrick> hmm... APT database?
[06:30] <dandielionous> I don't know.
[06:31] <dandielionous> I know linux is structured differently.
[06:31] <dandielionous> I don't really think it has something like a registry.
[06:31] <jpatrick> APT database is where all the programs are recorded
[06:31] <dandielionous> Can a program write to that like spyware?
[06:31] <dandielionous> A program outside of myself.
[06:32] <thoreauputic> dandielionous: it would be better to say what you want to achieve - someone might help with that - and no, spyware isn't an issue in Linux
[06:32] <dandielionous> Okay.
[06:32] <dandielionous> Sorry.
[06:32] <dandielionous> Just was fishing for information.
[06:32] <dandielionous> ty for the help.
[06:32] <thoreauputic> no need to apologise - it was a suggestion to help you with your questions :)
[06:36] <brodel> can anyone help me with this?
[06:37] <brodel> rror: "/var/tmp/kdecache-brodel" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[06:37] <brodel> Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"
[06:37] <brodel> kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.
[06:37] <brodel> I tried to run sudo kate to edit the smb.conf
[06:39] <iamhs_> Where can i find information about hardware support? wondered if kubuntu/ubuntu supportes my main system? (running on a live cd atm)
[06:41] <steve44> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:42] <iamhs_> thanks
[06:44] <iamhs_> another quick question, is that hardware list an overview of supported or unsupported ?
[06:55] <jpatrick> hey kkathman
[06:55] <kkathman> howdy jpatrick :)
[06:57] <skbera> Hello everyone.
[06:58] <dragonkh> hi
[06:59] <dragonkh> anyone know where modules.conf lives on kubunti ?
[06:59] <dragonkh> I cant seem to find one - I dont know where to add my lsmod modules so they load
[06:59] <s_spiff> hey just installed kde
[06:59] <skbera> Anyone know how to defrag drives in Linux?
[07:00] <s_spiff>  anyway to remove the GNOME stuff from the KDE Menu's?
[07:00] <dragonkh> s_spiff: right click on the kde menu button and choose menu editor
[07:02] <s_spiff> thats a long and tiresome process
[07:02] <s_spiff>  I remove all kde stuff from gnome in something like 4 commands..
[07:02] <s_spiff>  isn't there something like that for KDE?
[07:03] <XavierGr> Is there any way to have multi-view-modes in kde windows? (and save each mode for the window)
[07:05] <s_spiff> I have to mount a certain partition everytime by the command : sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[07:06] <s_spiff> is there someway I can do it everytime it boots up..as in it should be mounted automatically>?
[07:06] <kkathman> s_spiff: why?  just put that in your fstab
[07:06] <s_spiff> how do I do that?
[07:06] <s_spiff>  the partition is a fat32
[07:06] <kkathman> modify /etc/fstan
[07:06] <kkathman> ooops
[07:06] <s_spiff>  and i want to write/read and execute..
[07:06] <kkathman> I mean /etc/fstab
[07:07] <s_spiff> kkathman, you'll have to walk me through, I'm a noob at ubuntu...linux for that matter
[07:07] <kkathman> is this your second drive or something?
[07:07] <s_spiff> and someone told me that I should mount the hda7 in the media folder
[07:07] <XavierGr> or I think you can do that from the kde disk utility
[07:07] <s_spiff>  so that i can creat a shortcut on the desktop
[07:07] <s_spiff> yeah..
[07:07] <kkathman> s_spiff: you can do that too
[07:07] <s_spiff>  its actually a master hdd..
[07:07] <ricky> hi
[07:07] <s_spiff>  and I've installed ubuntu on slave
[07:08] <s_spiff>  and I edit the bios
[07:08] <kkathman> you first whats called "create a mount point"
[07:08] <s_spiff>  to boot from hdd1
[07:08] <s_spiff>  instead of hdd0
[07:08] <kkathman> s_spiff: ohh well thats a bit more complicated
[07:08] <s_spiff> how to do that?
[07:08] <kkathman> actually I am attempting to do the same thing
[07:08] <s_spiff> ouu ok.
[07:09] <kkathman> except I want to partition my 300GB drive to 2 partitions to be able to triple boot
[07:09] <XavierGr> check settings>administration->disk & filesystems
[07:09] <s_spiff> wow
[07:10] <s_spiff> will try that
[07:10] <kkathman> if you see Hobbsee on line  she can tell you how tho, she triple boots breezy, dapper and windows xp
[07:10] <s_spiff> XavierGr, there is no settings..
[07:10] <s_spiff> wher do i check that out?
[07:11] <XavierGr> click the second icon on your start bar
[07:11] <XavierGr> and then click settings
[07:11] <s_spiff> it says 'Desktop Access'
[07:11] <s_spiff> not Settings
[07:12] <XavierGr> uhh
[07:12] <XavierGr> in Kubuntu right?
[07:12] <s_spiff> no ubuntu
[07:12] <s_spiff>  but in KDE
[07:12] <XavierGr> ahh
[07:12] <s_spiff>  installed KDE a few minutes back
[07:13] <XavierGr> wait a sec to think
[07:15] <XavierGr> s_spiff: type "settings:/" in konwueror
[07:15] <s_spiff> k
[07:15] <Demostrike> Could anyone tell me is its possible to run/burn the kubuntu live cd from a USB hard drive?
[07:15] <s_spiff> ok..then>?
[07:16] <XavierGr> system administration
[07:16] <XavierGr> Demonstrike: it is possible I think, but I dont know how
[07:17] <s_spiff> ok
[07:17] <Demostrike> thanks XavierGr - does anyone else here have an idea on how to do it? Ive tried just extracting the iso into the HD root dir
[07:17] <s_spiff> XavierGr, system admin doesn't have anything for disk management
[07:18] <XavierGr> strange? by kubuntu build has it
[07:18] <XavierGr> try Kdisk then, but I am not sure
[07:18] <s_spiff> ok
[07:18] <s_spiff>  will try
[07:18] <s_spiff> ttyl
[07:18] <s_spiff>  thanks anyways man
[07:18] <s_spiff>  have to go.
[07:31] <alejandro> hi all
[07:31] <alejandro> how can i change the image of kdm?
[07:36] <jpatrick> Lord_Athur: get another KDM theme?
[07:37] <jpatrick> and install it?
[07:37] <Lord_Athur> mmm
[07:37] <Lord_Athur> no
[07:38] <Lord_Athur> jpatrick,  i only want to change the photo or image visible with kde, the image that says "kubuntu" por another one
[07:38] <Lord_Athur> jpatrick,  i only want to change the photo or image visible with kdm, the image that says "kubuntu" por another one.
[07:39] <Lord_Athur> the last is right
[07:39] <Lord_Athur> :D
[07:39] <jpatrick> Not sure how....
[07:40] <Lord_Athur> isn't there a directory with the photo file to change?
[07:40] <jpatrick> image of what? KDM?
[07:40] <jpatrick>  /usr/share/apps/kdm
[07:41] <Lord_Athur> thanks
[07:50] <os2mac> clear
[07:50] <os2mac> dammit....
[07:50] <os2mac> LOL
[07:50] <os2mac> I have been at a command line to long
[07:51] <os2mac> clear
[07:51] <os2mac> fsck!
[07:55] <XavierGr> is it possible to have in KDE folders with different file view-mode?
[08:02] <JohnFlux> Hey all
[08:02] <_kaenat> How can I find out what package a file on my system belongs to?
[08:03] <jpatrick> I forgot the command
[08:03] <jpatrick> dpkg-* somethings
[08:06] <_kaenat> jpatrick: Thanks. I've been searching around those commands for a bit, and haven't found it yet.
[08:20] <deemo> hey everyone, how do i share a printer so that a windows machine can print off of it?
[08:20] <sproingie> samba can share printers.  i think cups can do IPP too
[08:21] <sproingie> no idea what the click path is ... my printer doesn't even work under linux :(
[08:21] <hussam> Is Dapper development as aggressive as Breezy?
[08:21] <deemo> if i add a printer in cups through the Ssytem Settings screen, is it also made on samba?
[08:21] <sproingie> hussam: yes, it breaks badly on occasion.  doing a global update in dapper is usually not wise
[08:22] <sproingie> they reorg packages in a way that can wedge apt if you update at the wrong time
[08:22] <hussam> sproingie: then I'm glad I decided to stick to breezy
[08:22] <sproingie> wise idea.  about a month before release is probably safe, but no sooner
[08:23] <sproingie> backports takes care of a lot of things, tho firefox is still an irritating anachronism
[08:24] <hussam> sproingie: I'm using firefox from mozilla.org. I'm on the 1.5-2.0 nightlies.
[08:25] <brodel> I'm using 1.5 :)
[08:25] <sproingie> yeah but you probably didn't get it from apt
[08:25] <sproingie> not official anyway
[08:26] <sproingie> i can't really tell the difference.  it's the autoupdate feature of 1.5 that's the best
[08:26] <sproingie> i tend to use whichever of opera, konq, or firefox i flip to first
[08:27] <hussam> hussam: Igot it from ftp.mozilla.org. I also update every other day to the latest nightly ( but nit every night )
[08:27] <hussam> not* every night
[08:28] <sproingie> i guess gnome has all kinds of library dependencies on gecko, and all those would have to be revved too
[08:28] <hussam> sproingie: konqueror is great but I never liked Opera.
[08:28] <sproingie> i have mixed feelings about opera
[08:29] <hussam> sproingie: Opera's interface is not much
[08:29] <sproingie> konqueror is good except a) it crashes on google maps, b) it FLICKERS like crazy, c) kwallet sucks as a form filler
[08:30] <jpatrick> sproingie: a) it doesn't here
[08:30] <sproingie> opera's keyboard navigation is also superb
[08:30] <jpatrick> You have to set the agent for maps.google.com to Safari
[08:30] <sproingie> the flickering doesnt seem to be as bad lately
[08:31] <hussam> I tried a couple of months ago to compile firefox with qt3 instead of gtk2 but it died half way through.
[08:33] <angasule> I want autocad for linux :(
[08:34] <hussam> angasule: same here. I'm willing to pay autodesk lots of money to make a linux version of AutoCAD
[08:35] <sproingie> autocad should be portable, i just dont think autodesk wants to spend on the platform support
[08:35] <angasule> hussam: it just doesn't make sense to have engineering apps on windows, which is engineering crap
[08:35] <sproingie> like "i'm running gentoo in a chroot with ~x86, and autocad won't work, waaah"
[08:35] <angasule> autocad is very tied up with windows :/
[08:36] <hussam> sproingie: true.
[08:36] <sproingie> they would probably standardize on something like redhat
[08:36] <hussam> angasule: It uses .net framework 1.1 ( I think )
[08:36] <angasule> hmm, I don't think 2005 does
[08:37] <thegladiator> when will dapper be release for kubuntu
[08:37] <sproingie> autocad runs on .net?  whoah
[08:37] <hussam> I have autocad 2005
[08:37] <sproingie> i always thought it was its own self-contained world
[08:37] <angasule> sproingie: that sure isn't, it's full of IE crap
[08:37] <thegladiator> when will dapper be release for kubuntu and is the flight cd stable ?
[08:37] <thegladiator> fliht 2 ?
[08:38] <sproingie> angasule: that's not hard to switch at all.  firefox can implement IWebBrowse pretty easily
[08:38] <jpatrick> !dapper
[08:38] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[08:38] <hussam> sproingie: It's compiled with VC++ 7.0/7.1
[08:38] <thegladiator> jpatrick, have you tried the flight 2 cd ?
[08:38] <sproingie> hussam: probably carries a lot of legacy code, like SEH
[08:38] <angasule> I can't wait for diaper drake
[08:39] <jpatrick> yes
[08:39] <sproingie> actually doesn't gcc support SEH now?
[08:39] <jpatrick> angasule: what?
 I can't wait for diaper drake. Diaper Drake?
[08:40] <angasule> dapper drake, come on
[08:41] <hussam> angasule: I was only kidding.
[08:41] <angasule> diaper drake = dragon in diapers, still dangerous in nethack, though
[08:41] <sproingie> would make a cute graphic
[08:41] <thegladiator> how is the flight 2 cd ?
[08:41] <thegladiator> is it worth trying ?
[08:42] <hussam> sproingie: to tell you the truth, AutoCAD should be rewritten. 2005 takes to many resources and hangs too much.
[08:42] <sproingie> muffin, say hi to lunch
[08:42] <joshisscifi> woot woot
[08:42] <thegladiator> for the heck o f it I am goint to try gnome for a sec to see if I like it anymore :
[08:42] <thegladiator> :p
[08:42] <thegladiator> kde is nice
[08:42] <joshisscifi> you won't
[08:42] <angasule> I hate pets, they eat my food
[08:42] <thegladiator> let me see
[08:42] <thegladiator> brb
[08:42] <joshisscifi> the dark side is powerful yes
[08:43] <_law_|iBook> any ideas why my kopete doesnt go into auto-away-modus?
[08:43] <hussam> willl Dapper used xorg 7.0 ?
[08:43] <sproingie> not the modular xorg, no
[08:43] <sproingie> don't know the version numbers tho
[08:44] <hussam> I just got OpenOffice 2.0.1 from people.ubuntu.com/~doko
[08:45] <jpatrick> wb Mez
[08:46] <Mez> ty
[08:50] <hussam> angasule: Is there a program fro Linux that can edit dwg files?
[08:51] <angasule> hussam: not that I know
[08:57] <hussam> angasule: this is the area that Linux lack in, engineering software.
[08:58] <angasule> it's unbelievable, really
[09:06] <knubbe> hussam & angasule: http://www.tech-edv.co.at/lunix/CADlinks.html
[09:07] <knubbe> hussam & angasule: program that handles dwg-files: http://lx-viewer.sourceforge.net/
[09:09] <juif> hola
[09:09] <juif> i just stuck a hard disk in this kubuntu box. its NTFS formatted. can this work ?
[09:09] <joshisscifi> juif: more info needed
[09:09] <angasule> juif: kubuntu can read NTFS partitions
[09:10] <juif> okay
[09:10] <angasule> juif: I don't think it'll write to them
[09:10] <joshisscifi> NTFS write support is still experimental afaik
[09:10] <juif> what kind of more info is needed ? so far, i took the disk, stuck it in the computer, BIOS auto-detected it.
[09:10] <juif> i only want to copy the data on it to my linux drive
[09:10] <juif> then i want to format it
[09:10] <joshisscifi> juif: ^^^^ thats the info that was needed
[09:10] <juif> and partition it for linux
[09:11] <knubbe> juif: do you know how to mount it?
[09:11] <juif> its a 40 gig samsung drive, fairly old.
[09:11] <juif> i do not know how to mount it
[09:12] <dsbonzo> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hddnumber /mountpoint <- right?
[09:12] <knubbe> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -o umask=0222
[09:13] <knubbe> if your ntfs-drive is hda1
[09:13] <knubbe> juif:  http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#hddmntman
[09:13] <juif> there was already a drive in there, that i think was hda1/2&3
[09:14] <juif> so i should write hdb ? or something ?
[09:14] <neoncode> Is there any kind of sleep function on kubuntu?
[09:14] <knubbe> i dont know what your new hdd is named
[09:15] <juif> how can i find out ?
[09:15] <dsbonzo> juif: fdisk -l should list the corresponding drive labels and their filesystem types
[09:17] <juif> hdd1
[09:19] <juif> mount point /mnt/windows does not exist
[09:20] <joshisscifi> mkdir /mnt/windows
[09:20] <juif> ok
[09:21] <thegladiator> XCHat is not a kde application ?
[09:21] <sproingie> it's a gtk application
[09:21] <juif> no error this time
[09:21] <joshisscifi> juif: cd /mnt/windows
[09:21] <joshisscifi> juif: ls
[09:21] <dsbonzo> Xchat = Gtk+ app, I thought.
[09:21] <juif> sweet
[09:22] <juif> it works
[09:22] <thegladiator> so konversation is the thing for kde ?
[09:22] <sproingie> i use the qt-gtk theme engine, so it looks like kde.  til i pop open a file dialog anyway
[09:22] <joshisscifi> konversation rocks
[09:22] <sproingie> those dont come up in irc that often tho
[09:22] <juif> can i access that from within kde ?
[09:22] <joshisscifi> juif: yup, just navigate like you would any other folder
[09:22] <juif> cool
[09:23] <juif> thanks :)
[09:23] <dsbonzo> juif: you could add it to your /etc/fstab if you want it to mount everytime you boot
[09:25] <larsivi> thegladiator: I think XChat is an X app, neither KDE nor gtk
[09:25] <thegladiator> i see
[09:25] <thegladiator> Xchat is considered better than Konversation ?
[09:26] <thegladiator> XChat uses GTK theme atleast in my ubuntu system which has been loaded with kde
[09:26] <cleo> XChat is so bloated, bah ;)
[09:26] <thegladiator> cleo, which one do you use ?
[09:26] <joshisscifi> like I said.... konversation rocks
[09:26] <joshisscifi> xchat had too much going on for an irc session
[09:27] <thegladiator> interesting perspectives
[09:27] <cleo> thegladiator: konversation and irssi
[09:27] <_thegladiator> hi
[09:27] <dsbonzo> bitchx = not bad either, IMO.
[09:27] <thegladiator> thats me in knversation ~
[09:27] <thegladiator> kl
[09:27] <_thegladiator> i am on konv now
[09:32] <thegladiator> hi
[09:39] <florian> hi there
[09:39] <florian> i have a problem with automounting of dvds
[09:40] <thegladiator> can some one suggest a cool font ?
[09:40] <thegladiator> i have been trying many I like deja Vu condensed
[09:40] <toca> hola
[09:40] <florian> after installing breezy everything worked like expected
[09:41] <toca> hay algun espaol por aqui?
[09:41] <florian> inserting a DVD resulted in opening konq and showing the contents of the DVD
[09:42] <florian> after online Update this has changed
[09:42] <florian> konq opens but it cannot mount the DVD
[09:42] <florian> device not found is the message
[09:43] <Florian-T> so what can i do?
[09:44] <toca> hello?
[09:47] <cleo> !es
[09:47] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:49] <Florian-T> can someone help?
[09:49] <toca> pero que como lo pongo eso?
[09:49] <toca> es que soy novato
[09:49] <kkathman> !es
[09:49] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:50] <thegladiator> can we have the margin as we have in Xchat ? atfer username ?
[09:50] <thegladiator> so that we can easily identify who is talking than this <> stuff ?
[09:51] <kkathman> thegladiator: you might try Konversation in KDE
[09:52] <thegladiator> i am using konversation
[09:52] <thegladiator> i would like have to have that margin we have in chat
[09:52] <thegladiator> after user name
[09:52] <thegladiator> if its possible
[09:52] <thegladiator> if you can understand what i mean
[09:52] <kkathman> oh you said xchat
[09:53] <thegladiator> yes
[09:53] <kkathman> thegladiator: I dont use either one actually :)
[09:53] <_jon> hey all i have a qeustion, i am a very new programmer,i am using 5.1.0 kubuntu and want a good coding program and how to install make compiler
[09:53] <kkathman> but as I remember...I thought Konversation was fairly nicely formatted
[09:54] <brodel> anyone help as to why my USB drive doesn't show up when I put it into the PC?
[09:54] <kkathman> !build-essential
[09:54] <ubotu> kkathman: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[09:54] <kkathman> ahhh
[09:54] <kkathman> pfft
[09:54] <kkathman> _jon  you'lll need to start by installing build-essential
[09:54] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: hello
[09:55] <_jon> and how do i do that?
[09:55] <kkathman> C-O-L-T: hi, please be sure to turn off your auto AWAY message.  You are in danger of being kicked if you dont
[09:55] <kkathman> _jon: sudo apt-get install build-essntial
[09:56] <kkathman> that will get you the basics for installation (i.e. the gcc etc)
[09:56] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: Yes I realized it is a stupid thing, I had to reinstall my konversation cause in other way I could not turn it off
[09:56] <kkathman> ok
[09:56] <kkathman> konversation has an option just to turn it off or remove it
[09:57] <C-O-L-T> kkhathman: yes I know
[09:57] <_jon> sudo apt-get install build-essntial what do i do with this?
[09:57] <kkathman> better yet.. just dont type the /away :)
[09:57] <kkathman> _jon: that installs the basics for compiling
[09:57] <C-O-L-T> kkhathman: now I don't have that option I think
[09:57] <_jon> yes but i dont know where to put it...? konsole?
[09:57] <_jon> oo run command?
[09:57] <hussam> knubbe: thanks for the link
[09:58] <kkathman> _jon it will put it in the right place
[09:58] <kkathman> _jon:
[09:58] <kkathman> !source
[09:58] <ubotu> [source]  to compile a source package, you first need to 'apt-get build-essential'. Some source packages have other dependencies, such as KDE or Gnome development libraries also.
[09:58] <kkathman> !gcc
[09:58] <ubotu> it has been said that gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[09:59] <kkathman> hey there hussam :)
[09:59] <hussam> kkathman: what's up?
[09:59] <kkathman> hussam: Im preparing to set up my machine for a triple boot :)
[10:00] <callie> hey kkathman
[10:00] <hussam> kkathman: cool, triple booting between what?
[10:00] <TheGrim> Can I ask for cedega help without getting flamed? noone is answering in there channel
[10:00] <juif> i only need one partition on the 2nd hard drive, i gather ?
[10:00] <juif> in fact, i dont know how to partition and format a hard disk
[10:01] <juif> how do i partition/format the second drive in this thing ? (its now NTFS)
[10:04] <joshisscifi> ah the joys of Comp Sci
[10:04] <joshisscifi> wow.... I just realized how tired I am....
[10:05] <joshisscifi> I kept looking at the window wondering why nobody had talked in the last.... 40 mins.... and then realized that the window had been scroll locked wayyyyy up there lol
[10:05] <_jon> eer ok thi "sudo apt-get install build-essntial" doesn't help me because i dont know where to put it
[10:06] <cleo> _jon: open a console
[10:06] <_jon> ok
[10:06] <trappist> I'm sure I remember a panel applet with a speaker icon that worked just like the volume applet in windows, but I can't find it.  anyone know what it's called?
[10:06] <_jon> ok its installing now
[10:06] <_jon> thankyou
[10:07] <cleo> trappist: kmix? :D
[10:07] <joshisscifi> Kate just became my favorite text editor
[10:07] <trappist> cleo: thought that was the mixer applet, but lemme see...
[10:08] <cleo> trappist: yes but there should be an option to display a little icon for volume
[10:08] <trappist> doesn't seem to have that option
[10:09] <trappist> just the 'channels' option
[10:09] <joshisscifi> trappist: under Configure
[10:09] <joshisscifi> trappist: Settings... Configure KMix
[10:10] <trappist> oh ok cool
[10:10] <_jon> ok
[10:10] <trappist> err wait, there's only 'configure global shortcuts'
[10:10] <_jon> opened consoel and type sudo apt-get install build-essntial and downloaded wut ever that stuff was, now i dont know wut to do
[10:10] <cleo> _jon: what are you going to do?
[10:11] <_jon> i want to program C++ and php
[10:11] <joshisscifi> trappist: wierd lol
[10:11] <trappist> what I have here is called 'sound mixer' in the applet list.  are we talking about the same thing?  no such entry there as kmix
[10:11] <cleo> _jon: you could try kdevelop as a nice IDE
[10:12] <_jon> but i need a compiler?
[10:12] <cleo> _jon: you just installed one
[10:12] <trappist> _jon: you have a compiler if you installed build-essential.  you're looking for an ide
[10:12] <trappist> like kdevelop
[10:12] <_jon> ok
[10:13] <_jon> now how do i get kdevelop
[10:13] <trappist> ok, if I just run 'kmix' it appears in the panel.  cool.
[10:13] <cleo> trappist: uhm..my kde is in german else I would explain it to you
[10:13] <_jon> lol
[10:13] <joshisscifi> trappist: yup
[10:13] <knubbe> _jon: Adept
[10:13] <_jon> =D ok
[10:14] <_roberth> can someone give a example of the sources.list who works?
[10:15] <joshisscifi> _roberth: All you have to do is comment out (#) the CD line, and uncomment out the rest
[10:15] <thegladiator> when i click on a pdf it is openend in konqueror and not adobe . how can I  make it topen with adboe only ?
[10:16] <_jon> I can't find kdevelop in adept, is there something specific I should be looking undert?
[10:16] <joshisscifi> _jon: did you edit your sources.list file to allow the multiverse etc?
[10:17] <_roberth> dunno
[10:17] <_jon> probably not...
[10:17] <thegladiaator> someone please
[10:18] <_roberth> i found a a sources.list someone had ditributed on the web and i just deleted everything who stood as default in the file without backup.....
[10:18] <trappist> thegladiator: make a file type association for .pdf -> acroread
[10:18] <joshisscifi> _jon: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:18] <joshisscifi> _jon: put # in front of the first line (deb cdrom), then do as the rest say, uncommenting out
[10:19] <_roberth> u mean me?
[10:19] <joshisscifi> both of you lol
[10:19] <thegladiator> thanks
[10:19] <_roberth> oh:P
[10:19] <florian> can someone help me?
[10:19] <p337> Hi everyone... I am currently installing Kubuntu (5.10) on my laptop for the first time... and it locked up at the part when it says "Starting Hotplug subsystem"... Its been about 10 minutes... any ideas?
[10:19] <joshisscifi> w00t 10 mins left
[10:20] <joshisscifi> lets gooooooooooooo steelers
[10:21] <damnhil> how do I execute a bash script in simulation? "Print  the  commands  that  would  be executed, but do not execute     them."?
[10:21] <_jon> joshisscifi: like this? #deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[10:21] <florian> help! automounting does not work :(
[10:22] <joshisscifi> yup
[10:22] <_jon> joshisscifi: #deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[10:22] <_jon> that shows up in an errror
[10:22] <callie> to execute a .jar file i just need to chmod +x that file and then ./<nameofile>.jar yeah?
[10:23] <florian> after first update of system automounting of DVDs does not work anymore
[10:23] <joshisscifi> _jon: what do you mean error?
[10:24] <florian> konq says it did not find the device
[10:25] <p337> this has never happened to anyone else before?
[10:27] <_roberth> jioshisscifi: ive removed all the comment lines and put # in the start of the cd-room but the none of the sources wont still work...
[10:29] <joshisscifi> _roberth: hmm, one sec
[10:29] <joshisscifi> or not lol
[10:30] <cleo> p337: mhh...you could try dapper ...got no other idea :)
[10:31] <p337> i already restarted... i didn't want to do this for fear of corrupting it... but it wasn't gonna do anything else
[10:31] <p337> ...well that i knew of
[10:31] <p337> btw... what does dapper do?
[10:32] <cleo> dapper uses hal and not hotplug
[10:33] <p337> ...also... never used linux in my life.... would that be a boot parameter
[10:34] <cleo> dapper is kubuntu 6.04 (unstable)
[10:36] <brodel> when I installed kubuntu on my laptop with windows I got a grub menu to choose from.. when I did it on my PC, I didn't.. how can I get that?
[10:37] <cleo> brodel: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and comment out "hiddenmenu"
[10:37] <brodel> well I hit escape and it showed me the menu.. but there were no windows options :(
[10:38] <psyk> if i was to learn programming what would be the best way to start learning?
[10:39] <cleo> and you are ure you haven't killed your windows installation? :)
[10:39] <cleo> -ure
[10:39] <brodel> Well that's I guess part of my question :\
[10:39] <psyk> or what programming software should i start with
[10:39] <brodel> I installed it in a free partition just like I did on my laptop though.
[10:39] <psyk> c++ pearl or ruby
[10:40] <_jon> yeah wut is better pearl or ruby
[10:40] <_jon> ?
[10:41] <brodel> I want to learn some programming language that can be used on all systems. Not just windows or linux.. thought about java for a while since you can do the RJE
[10:42] <florian> hi there
[10:42] <cleo> java is a good way to learn OOP and to get programming experience
[10:42] <florian> anyone here who can help me?
[10:42] <cleo> !anyone
[10:42] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[10:43] <kkathman> brodel:  I would suggest that you try Python, seeing that is probably more apropo in Linux
[10:43] <florian> ok
[10:43] <joshisscifi> brodel: but if you are wanting cross-platform ease, Java ;)
[10:44] <florian> my DVD media doesnt get automounted
[10:44] <kkathman> Java is losing a following overall
[10:44] <florian> some days ago i heard this is a known problem
[10:44] <joshisscifi> says who? lol
[10:44] <kkathman> and python is very cross platform now
[10:44] <kkathman> also, its Open Source :)
[10:44] <_jon> hey i was wondering id someone could explain to me how to compile my C++?
[10:44] <brodel> I've never heard of python in windows
[10:45] <cleo> kkathman: java is still a very good way to learn programming
[10:45] <kkathman> !compiling
[10:45] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[10:46] <kkathman> cleo, yes, but it has a more limited value ... why not learn something that is much more accepted now? Java was very popular 10 years ago in dev houses...not so much anymore
[10:46] <joshisscifi> umm.... wow
[10:46] <sproingie> kkathman: i defy you to show me where java is being significantly displaced
[10:46] <_jon> eeer that really doesnt help me
[10:46] <florian> this problem appeared when i updated my plain install of breezy
[10:47] <brodel> I just liked that azureus works everywhere you put it :)
[10:47] <joshisscifi> 10 years ago java was really first being released
[10:47] <joshisscifi> 1994 yes yes, but 1996 come on
[10:47] <kkathman> sproingie: I have 25+ years in software developments and sell to that community...would you like companies that have displaced Java in alphabetical order?
[10:47] <joshisscifi> how about a list of companies who gross > $100 a year lol
[10:47] <sproingie> kkathman: go for it
[10:48] <kkathman> Abbot Labs, Caterpillar, Dell Computers, Eaton Corporation,
[10:48] <kkathman> should I go on?
[10:48] <brodel> skipped B
[10:48] <sproingie> i stand corrected, i did forget about asp.net
[10:48] <kkathman> and those are I think significantly above $100/a year :)
[10:48] <brodel> oh F asp
[10:48] <joshisscifi> LOL
[10:48] <joshisscifi> YES!!! Palmer is down
[10:48] <kkathman> Breed Automotive (for B's) hehe
[10:48] <joshisscifi> von oelhoffen is the man!
[10:49] <kkathman> these are just those I know cuz they are customers
[10:49] <psyk> hey whats the best way to get ruby if i run kubuntu
[10:49] <Puaff> kkathman: why do you think python is the best language?
[10:50] <sproingie> kkathman: i'll give you .net shops ... when i see ror or django or zope or catalyst taking over, i'll eat my words
[10:50] <kkathman> well, I dont know if it is "the best", just that its very popular, and object oriented
[10:50] <joshisscifi> personally... I think saying python is the best language is kinda like calling a bash programmer a serious programming expert
[10:51] <kkathman> sproingie: geez no need to get hostile :)
[10:51] <cleo> well, though Java is not up to date anymore...and I really like python...I still think java is the best way for learning basic programming concepts
[10:51] <sproingie> kkathman: didn't mean for it to come off that way, sorry :)
[10:51] <cleo> I am not a programming expert though ;)
[10:51] <sproingie> depends on what you define as basic programming concepts
[10:51] <kkathman> joshisscifi:  I think maybe you dont realize what python is all about tho...its a much more robust language than you might think
[10:51] <sproingie> there's no elegant way to compose functions in java
[10:52] <sproingie> there's not even first-class functions
[10:52] <kkathman> but hey...yanno its up to your own tastes .. whatever floats your boat
[10:52] <sproingie> and this is hardly the airy heights of theory here
[10:52] <Florian-T> :( is there nobody who realy can help me with this problem?
[10:52] <psyk> can someone tell me how to get ruby
[10:53] <sproingie> psyk: apt-get install ruby perhaps?
[10:53] <psyk> in adept theres so many choices
[10:53] <psyk> i guess i download ruby interface
[10:53] <kkathman> psyk: I think there is a ruby 1.6 something out there...but I dunno
[10:53] <sproingie> psyk: oh yeah i forgot, debian does this dumb packaging job with them.  get them all.
[10:53] <kkathman> !ruby
[10:53] <ubotu> kkathman: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[10:53] <kkathman> pfft
[10:53] <kkathman> ubotu sometimes doesnt know everything :)
[10:53] <ubotu> kkathman: I give up, what is it?
[10:53] <psyk> but still theres so many choices
[10:53] <kkathman> see?
[10:54] <brodel> so, you're saying if I wrote something in python I could give it to someone who runs windows and some one who runs linux?
[10:55] <treke> As long as you didnt use anything platform specific, yes
[10:56] <treke> basically the same as with java or C#
[10:56] <jobezone> and use multi-platform libraries as well, like QT, GTK, SDL, which all have python bindings (or whatever it's called).
[10:57] <Florian-T> also
[10:57] <Florian-T> wie ich gerade sehe, gibt es beide
[10:57] <Florian-T> dosemu msste etwas lter sein
[10:58] <kkathman> here's a good article (part 1 of a series) on python that was in the Linux Journal, if anyone is interested:  http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8794
[10:59] <p337> in kopete, is there a way to make it so that it doesnt sort contacts alphabetically?
[11:00] <kkathman> and here's some interactive fun with Ruby :   http://tryruby.hobix.com/
[11:04] <callie> anyone know how i can see if dhcp is running on my box
[11:04] <kkathman> the ruby package is ruby1.6
[11:05] <jobezone> anyone ever used Alice?
[11:06] <jobezone> It's a strange program - a 3d movie/game/thing maker which uses python as the language to interact with it.
[11:07] <jobezone> It's targeted to new and novice users, and it's my only experience with python in my life. I was actually surprised when following the tutorials, and making the mini-movies, that after a while it says that we've been using python syntax all along. I was amazed, as it was a really simple language to use.
[11:10] <Blippe> why oh, why does xorg hit 50 user% when in kde on my 2GHz machine?
[11:20] <amigrave> when I'm dragging files in konqueror or ion the desktop, when the blue transparent square get's bigger the operation get slower, I've got this problem on all computers on which I installed kubuntu, is it a driver problem ?
[11:22] <treke> amigrave: You  need to make sure you have render acceleration enabled, if I'm remembering correctly
[11:23] <fberetta> hello! help needed!
[11:23] <treke> My experience has been that if that isn't turned on ( or supported by the driver for your card), performance gets really bad when selecting items
[11:24] <amigrave> treke: I'm looking in Xfree log but I don't know what it should look like
[11:24] <treke> Do you know what type of card you're using?
[11:24] <amigrave> nvidia
[11:24] <treke> With the open source or closed source drivers?
[11:24] <amigrave> treke: but on my laptop it's i810 and the problem is the same
[11:25] <amigrave> treke: with closed source
[11:25] <treke> ok
[11:25] <treke> that's easilly solvable
[11:25] <amigrave> treke: really ?
[11:27] <joshisscifi> yeah... I need to figure out the i810 hw accel
[11:27] <treke> adding Option "RenderAccel" "true" to the  Device section of your xorg.conf should fix things up on the nvidia machine
[11:27] <treke> It's marked as experimental in the documentation, but I've had good luck with it
[11:28] <amigrave> thanks I'll try it, I can't restart x right now but I'll give it a try
[11:29] <treke> If your machine blows up or something as a result, give me a 10 minute head start before you come after me with the pitchfork
[11:29] <amigrave> ;-)
[11:30] <treke> No idea how to turn it on for the i810 though
[11:31] <fberetta> Anyone has problems with live DVD 5.10 of Kubunto?. It fails uploading on my PC.
[11:34] <jobezone> i810 is that the SiS videocard chipset?
[11:35] <treke> intel
[11:35] <jobezone> ah ok
[11:36] <jobezone> I have different machines, one with that, and another with a on-board videocard which uses the sis driver, and I keep thinking they're the same ones.
[11:36] <joshisscifi> I'm too tired to google it lol
[11:36] <joshisscifi> I will when I wake up though
[11:37] <joshisscifi> I'll spend probably an hour tomorrow figuring out my school's vpn
[11:38] <jobezone> joshisscifi, remember to take a look at dri.freedesktop.org
[11:38] <joshisscifi> k, tks
[11:41] <joshisscifi> alright, sleep time
[11:52] <amigrave> I tried renderaccel with i810
[11:52] <amigrave> (II) I810(0): direct rendering: Enabled
[11:52] <amigrave> (WW) I810(0): Option "RenderAccel" is not used
[11:55] <ccc_> how do i change the kde panel font color?
[11:56] <fberetta> Anyone has problems with live DVD 5.10 of Kubuntu?. It fails uploading on my PC.
[11:56] <kkathman> fberetta: try the cd image then as an alternative
[12:01] <fberetta> kkathman, I got a CD image. Same problem. It say it is corrupted but if I try on the laptop it works.
[12:02] <brodel> fberetta: you mean when you try to install? You hit enter and it says it's corrupt?