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| Pygi | welcome chara | 12:35 |
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| MarioMeyer | heya chara | 01:18 |
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| spike | 'afternoon | 04:26 |
| tarvid | hello | 04:30 |
| tarvid | i have a few servers up on hoary and breezy | 04:31 |
| tarvid | planning on more | 04:31 |
| tarvid | this looks more like a career than a project | 04:31 |
| spike | tarvid: hi there | 04:32 |
| tarvid | i'd like to put one "sandbox" on the cutting edge. | 04:32 |
| tarvid | hi spike | 04:32 |
| tarvid | but serviceable | 04:32 |
| tarvid | where should i get my files? | 04:32 |
| spike | tarvid: I've no idea what u're talking about, sorry | 04:33 |
| tarvid | there was a breezy "server" release a couple of months ago, does dapper include those efforts? | 04:34 |
| Pygi | well, there will be a dapper "server" release if that's what you mean | 04:37 |
| spike | tarvid: which efforts? | 04:38 |
| === spike keeps not getting it | ||
| tarvid | Pygi, i found a dead link to nightly dapper server builds | 04:38 |
| tarvid | spike, LDAP among others | 04:38 |
| Pygi | tarvid: well, not sure that there is a current server build | 04:38 |
| spike | LDAP what? if it'll be included in dapper? | 04:38 |
| infinity | tarvid: The "server" CD is just a different package selection from the regular CD. | 04:39 |
| tarvid | there are more than enough packages, the issue is how much work is required to get them to work together | 04:39 |
| infinity | tarvid: All the packages come from the same archive. | 04:39 |
| Pygi | infinity: and the dapper server will have tweaked kernel, won't it? | 04:40 |
| spike | Pygi: it will | 04:40 |
| infinity | Pygi: The dapper server CD will have the "server" kernels on it, yes, but those are also in the main archive. | 04:40 |
| Pygi | infinity: yup, I know... | 04:40 |
| infinity | So, you can just as easily use a "normal" CD, then switch kernels, or do a netinstall, or, or.. | 04:40 |
| tarvid | so if I download dapper and say "server" at the install I get the "server" release? | 04:40 |
| tarvid | there was a separate iso section on the mirrors called ubuntu-server | 04:40 |
| infinity | tarvid: Basically. "server" at the install prompt just means "install a very minimal system, and let me tweak it after" | 04:41 |
| infinity | tarvid: "ubuntu-server" has a different set of packages on the CD (not installed by default, just shipped), and a different default kernel (but you can install that after the fact, if you use a regular CD...) | 04:41 |
| infinity | Just install "linux-server" after you install dapper, if you want to check out the server kernel. | 04:42 |
| tarvid | ah! perhaps exactly what I am looking for. | 04:42 |
| tarvid | i run three ubuntu web servers, one (not ubuntu at the moment) mail server, one backup server, a staff server, ... | 04:43 |
| tarvid | a few of the staff members have sandbox servers | 04:44 |
| tarvid | we like to stay on top of ubuntu servers in some rational manner | 04:44 |
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| tarvid | it is beginning to look like a career | 04:45 |
| === spike is worried | ||
| tarvid | what does spike want to do? | 04:46 |
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| tarvid | one of the tasks i am facing is a new mail server | 04:53 |
| tarvid | i pulled user shell accounts ages ago and a virtual server makes sense | 04:54 |
| tarvid | the sql setup for courier and postfix is close but not congruent | 04:54 |
| tarvid | i have several people who maintain mail accounts | 04:54 |
| tarvid | i'd like to have a consistent tool for them to add, archive, delete mail accounts | 04:55 |
| tarvid | i haven't found one that rolls up everything into a package | 04:55 |
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| Xoritor | wow | 07:01 |
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| Xoritor | anyone here run ubuntu with xen | 07:37 |
| Xoritor | i see a few mentions on the forums | 07:37 |
| spike | Xoritor: I do, self compiled | 07:38 |
| Xoritor | do you have to self compile it? | 07:38 |
| ubijtsa2 | yes | 07:39 |
| spike | Xoritor: integration is a bit problematic because of ubuntu release cycle/policies and xen ones. in short their kernel patch release cycle is too slow and wont apply to latest kernel provided by ubuntu. | 07:39 |
| Xoritor | oh | 07:39 |
| Xoritor | bummer | 07:39 |
| spike | Xoritor: if u want something stable of course. dev tree has patches that applies to current, tho | 07:39 |
| Xoritor | hmm | 07:40 |
| ivoks | xen should enter linus's kernel :/ | 07:40 |
| ubijtsa2 | it will, in time | 07:40 |
| Xoritor | ivoks, i have not used it enough to say if that would be good or bad | 07:40 |
| Xoritor | ;-) | 07:40 |
| Xoritor | heh | 07:40 |
| spike | Xoritor: "it's the best thing since sliced bread" | 07:41 |
| === spike loves that one | ||
| spike | ehehe | 07:41 |
| spike | always made me laugh | 07:41 |
| ivoks | Xoritor: if you take a look on linus's kernel, you would see Xen is much more stable then most of that kernel :) | 07:41 |
| ubijtsa2 | http://www1.us.dell.com/content/topics/topic.aspx/global/products/monitors/topics/en/monitor_3007wfp?c=us&l=en&s=gen <- how's that for a monitor | 07:41 |
| ivoks | 30"? | 07:42 |
| spike | once they get guests running with no modifications on intel/amd hw virtualization, then things will get serious | 07:42 |
| ivoks | lol, that's a great TV for movies :) | 07:42 |
| ubijtsa2 | 2560x1600 resolution... | 07:42 |
| spike | I tend to dislike 'em for quite a few reasons | 07:43 |
| ubijtsa2 | some desktop that would be... | 07:43 |
| spike | 2-3x17-21 is a *much* better solution imho | 07:43 |
| ivoks | spike: i agree | 07:44 |
| maswan | ivoks: an lcd computer monitor is likely to suffer from the "no dark" problem | 07:44 |
| spike | it's easier to keep things organized with more screens running separated X, not xinerama | 07:44 |
| spike | it's easier to replace a faulty one and u wont kill urself if for some reason u break it by accident | 07:44 |
| ubijtsa2 | if separate X displays, just run x2x | 07:45 |
| maswan | I prefer just one monitor really | 07:45 |
| maswan | And the higher the resolution the better | 07:45 |
| spike | ubijtsa: eh? why should I? and there's better than x2x, synergy | 07:45 |
| maswan | Of course, I don't want to spend that much money on a monitor. :) | 07:45 |
| spike | ubijtsa: works with windoze too | 07:45 |
| Xoritor | ivoks, i dont dispute that at all | 07:45 |
| ubijtsa2 | I'd like two, in xinerama, with 1600x1200 on each | 07:45 |
| spike | anyway, x2x or whatever implies other boxes, here we were talking of monitors | 07:46 |
| spike | nvidia has got a relly well working mode for that, besides xinerama | 07:46 |
| ivoks | i would like one small 14 or 15" | 07:46 |
| ivoks | no wide screen | 07:46 |
| ivoks | my next laptop won't be widescreen :/ | 07:47 |
| spike | 3 17 is my best setup | 07:47 |
| ivoks | and, it won't be dell :)) | 07:47 |
| spike | god bless u man :) | 07:47 |
| spike | got an inspiron? | 07:47 |
| ivoks | yup 8600 | 07:47 |
| spike | doh | 07:47 |
| spike | irc'ing from one of those crappy thingie | 07:47 |
| ivoks | there is more glue than plastic on this laptop :)) | 07:47 |
| spike | anyway, back to work, talllk to u later | 07:48 |
| ivoks | bye | 07:48 |
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