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thestagemanagerI'm trying to make Evolution print a month view without the end times for appointments, they take up too much space in the boxes.12:01
captainredbeardhey, my dvd is having problems reading dvds and cds it burned, it won't mount them, any ideas? Its only a few weeks old12:01
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haasteemantispeticx: hmm... i don't think that worked12:02
antisepticxno go12:02
nickrudKovecses, you have stumbled upon the ultimate use of a debian based system. Someone else does the compiling :)12:02
antisepticxstill getting us layout12:02
Pygicaptain: use mount?12:02
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Kovecsesnicklas, then i installed debian sid... and couldnt get fglrx working12:03
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Kovecsesnicklas, then i tried ubuntu and now im golden12:03
haasteemantispeticx: yes12:03
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cello_raspwhat does you gnome folks use for wireless network detection?12:03
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Seveascello_rasp, network-manager12:04
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inventor_can someone msg me that can help with an install using a scsi array?12:04
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Darky469any news  off macromedia shockwave ?12:05
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nickrudexcept that they'll do nothing for 64 bit, or give a darn about linux? no.12:05
woodgraindo 32 bit linux apps run on linux-64?12:05
cello_raspseveas: is that like kismet12:05
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Seveascello_rasp, no12:06
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nickrudwoodgrain, not yet.12:07
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nickrudbye bye king-rapper12:07
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builderis there a way to legally play .wmv and .mov files on Ubuntu?12:07
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Pygihey KING STOP IT12:07
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ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth12:07
mweSeveas: kick king-rapper please12:07
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aceokay...it says.........change your repositories...in snyaptic package manager..how do i do it?12:08
builderI have windows mounted as a partition under /media/windows12:08
nickrudlol, I type faster, nya nya12:08
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Pygithanks Amaranth12:08
ZiX_i blah to your blah :}12:08
ZiX_hi Amaranth :o12:08
Amaranthhi12:08
ZiX_hoi Seveas12:08
googace: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:08
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acethx12:09
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NogimicsCan someone help me? I am a linux n00b and trying to move 1 file to another dir in command12:09
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nickrudbuilder, if it's legal where you live , http:/wiki.ubuntu.com/RestricedFornats12:09
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nickrudbuilder, if it's legal where you live , http:/wiki.ubuntu.com/RestricedFormats12:09
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marwaltry "mv"12:09
NogimicsWhats the syntax pls?12:09
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ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth12:09
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tr011hi, somebody knows how can i to do the mozilla-mplayer plugin work? i have it all ready installed12:09
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Seveasugh12:09
Amaranth*sigh*12:09
NogimicsMarwal I keep trying mv but I must be messing somehting up12:10
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BxLubotu is cool12:10
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ubotuBxL: Not a clue12:10
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Amaranththey always come when i'm eating :P12:10
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mesheis it the time of day for spammers?12:10
Chousuke;/12:10
ChousukeSpammers suck.12:10
SeveasAmaranth, hehe same here12:10
SeveasChousuke, vacuum cleaners suck too12:10
lucasvoyeah12:11
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marwalmv path another_path12:11
johanbrHi. Does anyone have any idea why my custom-built kernels fail to boot? I'm suspecting some initrd breakage.12:11
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Seveasjohanbr, jeez, don't give too much info.... :/12:11
nickrudjohanbr, well, that's a good place to start, anyway12:11
googi finished installing ubuntu about 5 minutes ago and its already crashing12:11
Seveasgoog, ouch :/12:12
lucasvogoog: what is crashing?12:12
mikelinuxubuntu-es12:12
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Berghi12:12
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googi went to place > network servers12:12
googand now the panel is frozen12:12
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binahi, is it safe to make the size of /dev/shm bigger by default?  Also, how do you do it?12:12
ChousukeSeveas: Yeah. In some cases they also blow and are generally full of trash!12:12
johanbrOkay. I've installed the linux-source-2.6.15 package. I compile the kernel with "make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image" and get a deb, which I install. I reboot and choose that kernel from the grub menu. The screen goes dark and nothing happens.12:12
SeveasChousuke, roflol :)12:12
haasteemantisepticx: i found somewhere it should be ca(fr) in breezy12:12
Seveasjohanbr, boot with single and without quiet as parameters, that should at least say sometin12:13
haasteemantisepticx: i will try a logout/login12:13
googi also can't right-click on the desktop anymore..12:13
BergI have partition magic now12:14
Darky469someone  knows  a  solution for  using macromedia shockwave player ?12:14
johanbrSeveas: Thanks, I'll give that a shot. I'm off to reboot...12:14
meshegoog: ctrl-alt-backspace12:14
meshewhoops, too late12:14
KovecsesDarky469, install wine and get the windows version of firefox12:14
SeveasDarky469, yes, use windows12:14
nickrudDarky469, there is no shockwave player for linux. period.12:14
Seveasshockwave in wine is a no-go12:14
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KovecsesSeveas, works for me12:15
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SeveasKovecses, that's new..12:15
KovecsesDarky469, install vm ware12:15
Seveasbut semi-good to hear12:15
Sapentisheya12:15
cornflakedoes anyone know if dapper is stable yet?12:15
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Seveas!dapper12:15
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.12:15
lucasvocornflake: no it is not12:15
Darky469oke  so if i use  wine  i can use  the windows version of  firefox ?12:15
KovecsesSeveas, well I havent tried in on ubuntu yet ... worked when i was on gentoo12:15
lucasvocornflake: but one can use it12:15
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lucasvoif one doesn't need Firefox downloadwindow... :P12:15
SapentisSeveas, what version of ubuntu are you on?12:16
lucasvowhen will that bug be fixed?12:16
Pygicornflake: define "stable"12:16
cornflakelucasvo, i did... too bad i couldn't downgrade my system so i had to back up and reinstall12:16
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lucasvoa friend of mine just did a downgrade :D12:17
lucasvoand it worked12:17
iKernelHi there. When running a game as a normal user, when the sound intializes, I get the following error: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy Could not open /dev/dsp12:17
SeveasSapentis, Breezy+some backports I made12:17
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SapentisSeveas, nice.12:17
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lucasvowhat is a backport?12:17
iKernelOther than that, the game runs fine. However, when running the game as root, the sound works. What could be wrong?12:17
iKernellucasvo: www.google.com define: backport12:17
cornflakepersonally, i just want the latest stable packages12:18
kameronlucasvo: bakcporting is taking some things from dapper and porting them to breezy12:18
cornflake!soundserver12:18
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, cornflake12:18
lucasvokameron: aha12:18
_nullhow can I remove all packages which I installed from a custom repo?12:18
cornflake!esd12:18
mesherun game as root *shiver*12:18
dutchiKernal..make sure nothing else is trying to use the sound card....12:18
Seveaslucasvo, a backport in this case is a dapper package compiled on breezy12:18
lucasvoiKernel: you need to add the user to the audio group or something like this :D12:18
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lucasvoSeveas: what backports are you using?12:18
Pygido not use backports if you don't know what you are doin'12:19
iKernellucasvo: I hadn't thought of that. But you see, audio DOES play as a general rule, but I will try...12:19
Seveaslucasvo, tex, gnome-bluetooth, ntfsprogs (write support!)12:19
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lucasvoiKernel: this game is using the hardware directly not through ESD12:19
lucasvoor some other sounddaemon12:19
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iKernellucasvo: Not too sure...12:20
lucasvoiKernel: /dev/dsp is the hardware12:21
lucasvognome for e.g. is using ESD which runs under root12:21
lucasvoso it may use the hardware12:21
lucasvoafaik12:21
lucasvoSeveas: why do you need ntfs?12:21
iKernellucasvo: So I should try adding my user to the esd group?12:21
lucasvoiKernel: I am not sure about that, it is some other group12:22
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iKernelSeveas: Don't ever, EVER, EVER write to an ntfs partition under linux.12:22
kameronSeveas: how is ntfssprogs working for you???12:22
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McGyver^hi to everybody12:22
corresponderhi12:22
SeveasiKernel, ghe, libntfs actually works nice :)12:22
borisattvaafter installing kubuntu-desktop when i load firefox i get /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html cannot be found, even though synaptics did nto mention of anything being removed for kubuntu12:22
mikelinuxntfs?12:22
Seveaskameron, ntfs-fuse12:22
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Seveasit's still experimental and may break things12:23
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kameronSeveas:... what? i was looking for like a "good" or "bad" response?12:23
Seveasbut I don't really care12:23
mikelinuxinstall windows on fat 3212:23
Kovecsesborisattva, just change your home page12:23
Seveaskameron, ah, so far good12:23
Kovecsesborisattva, error will go away12:23
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Seveaskameron, but I won't recommend it if your data is valuable :)12:23
kameronSeveas: i'll have to try it out12:23
lucasvoKovecses: but it is still a bug12:23
woodgrainhow do I add a searchpath to my $PATH?12:23
kameronSeveas: nah, i wouldn't mess around with anything important.12:23
jorikuse shhfs :-)12:23
iKernelSeveas: I heard that microsoft made some changes to the ntfs file system that makes it so that your ntfs security becomes courrputed if you write to ntfs under linux.12:23
lucasvowoodgrain: what searchpath?12:23
Kovecseslucasvo, been like that ever since 4.1012:24
lucasvoKovecses: aha12:24
Kovecseslucasvo, i mean 5.0412:24
woodgrainlucasvo, /usr/share for example12:24
SeveasiKernel, "ntfs security"... now there's an oxymoron...12:24
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borisattvakovecses: i figured as much, but why was it necessary to remove it in the 1st place, any idea?12:24
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lucasvowoodgrain: export PATH=$PAHT:/usr/share12:24
iKernelSeveas: yeah I know... But it's better than fat3212:24
woodgrainlucasvo,  how do I see what's in my path??  WHere does PATH live??12:24
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lucasvowoodgrain: print_env12:24
Seveaswoodgrain, in memory :)12:24
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Seveasit is set by bash and gdm12:25
nickrudwoodgrain, env | sort is your friend12:25
lucasvowoodgrain: or printenv I don't know12:25
mikelinuxiKernel Seveas: I heard that microsoft made some changes to the ntfs file system that makes it so that your ntfs security becomes courrputed if you write to ntfs under linux...............true , true12:25
Kovecsesborisattva, its still there i just think the path is wrong12:25
woodgrainSeveas,  can't I open it with emacs somewhere and see what's in it?12:25
mikelinuxsd12:25
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Seveaswoodgrain, no12:25
jaredhow can I download the track information for my cd before I rip it?12:25
Seveaswoodgrain, echo $PATH12:25
Seveasthen you see what's in it :)12:25
woodgrainnickrud, what' env pipe sort?12:25
borisattvathanks12:25
thegladiator can i adjust the services that are intializd during boot up?12:25
Kovecses!why is k3b not in etch12:25
ubotuI think you lost me on that one, Kovecses12:25
Kovecsesoops12:25
mwethegladiator: sure12:25
Kovecseswrong channel12:25
Seveasthegladiator, system -> admin -> services12:25
thegladiatorhow ?12:25
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SeveasKovecses, -EDEBIAN :p12:26
iKernelmikelinux: I don't think it's a problem if you copy files from ntfs though. I never experianced many issues...12:26
nickrudwoodgrain, env will print to the screen all of the evironment variables that are active; sort just puts them in a readable format12:26
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binajared: grip will download the track titles etc automatically I think12:26
mwethegladiator: what do you wanna do? for enabling or disabling them look into update-rc.d12:26
psycodeI'm having a problem with some realplay videos, i can move forward... any ideas what that is?12:26
psycodecant*12:26
jaredbina: will sound juicer do it?12:26
woodgrainnickrud, can I redirect it to a file ?12:26
Pygihuh, that's a realplay issue, not ubuntu actually :/12:26
Pygiprobably*12:27
nickrudwoodgrain, env | sort > file12:27
jader_Hello all, can somebody tell me how can i log in a terminal with the user "root" ??12:27
psycodePygi, the thing is, it wasn't always like this.. used to work :\12:27
thegladiatormwe, i need to remove the clock synchronizing feature ...where it connects to ntp.ubuntulinux.org12:27
gnomefreakjader_, sudo12:27
woodgrainnickrud,  yeah, damn!! THanks for the knowhowto.!12:27
lucasvojader_: login with your user, than use sudo su12:27
binajared: I've never used sound juicer.  I imagine it will.  Sorry12:27
thegladiatormy machine is not conencted during boot12:27
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stgraberjader_: open a terminal and the type : sudo su -12:27
thegladiatorit gets connected after I run a small scrip12:27
jaredbina: tanks12:27
stgraberjader_: enter your user password and you will be root12:27
jader_thanks!!12:28
gnomefreak<<perfers sudo -i12:28
mwethegladiator: sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove12:28
jader_i were not able to do #su -12:28
iKernellucasvo: My user is already in the audio group.12:28
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rudizthegladiator, system>admin>services12:28
thegladiatorthanks i will try that12:28
iKerneljader_: Type in sudo -s12:28
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mikelinuxiKernel mikelinux: I don't think it's a problem if you copy files from ntfs though. I never experianced many issues.... and from reiserfs to ntfs?12:28
iKerneljader_: When it asks for the password, enter in your user account's password.12:29
woodgrainnickrud, so env prints my environment variables -- I can't edit this rihgt?12:29
jader_ok, i got it12:29
jader_thanks12:29
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woodgrainnickrud, just to see what set to what?12:29
iKernelmikelinux: No idea.12:29
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nickrudwoodgrain, sure you can. for example : export MYENV=whatisiswhatis ; env | sort12:29
mwewoodgrain: /etc/environment or /etc/profile or ~/.bashrs, export VAR=value12:29
psycodehow did you guys install realplayer? i might have done it wrong...12:30
iKernelmikelinux: I have copied a file or two from an ext3 partition using LTOOLS on windows...12:30
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woodgrainmwe,  did you meand bashrc??12:30
mwewoodgrain: though you'd leave out export in /etc/environment12:30
nickrudwoodgrain, you can alter any environment variable to suit yourself12:30
kameronwoodgrain: pdv is lengthly, to just see your path, try: echo $PATH12:30
tafsenHow do I turn of Nautilus drawing the desktop?12:30
mwewoodgrain: no ~/.bashrc12:30
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mwewoodgrain: it means /home/<user>/.bashrc12:30
iKernelpyscode: ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin12:30
iKernelbah, I'll just play et as root.12:31
woodgrainmwe,  yeah but you said bashrs so I was confused12:31
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mwewoodgrain: really? well that was a typo then, sorry12:31
nickrudwoodgrain, the most likely place to put your own env variable is .bashrc12:31
oKtosiTetafsen: --no-desktop ?12:32
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saik0Is there an OOo IRC channel for user question (non-devel stuff)12:32
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woodgrainnickrud,  so I can edit my personal .bashrc file to add a path to the $PATH?12:33
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tafsenwhat is the command for the gnome configureing tool?12:33
woodgrainmwe, I checked etc/environment and etc/profile ... these dirs don't exist -- is this okay?12:33
Seveastafsen, gconf-editor perhaps?12:34
mwewoodgrain: export PATH="$PATH":/some/additional/path12:34
woodgrainmwe, I do have a .bashrc though12:34
mwewoodgrain: you wanna do this just for your user or systemwide?12:34
woodgrainmwe,  I can't edit the bashrc to do the same?12:34
kamerontafsen: gnome-control-center12:34
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oKtosiTetafsen: what are you trying to do?12:34
woodgrainmwe,  what's the diff between sys-wide and just me_user12:34
nase!libsdl12:35
ubotunase: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?12:35
nasewhere can i get libsdl12:35
jaredbina: it doesn't see my disk. What should it be set to on ubuntu /dev/cdrom ?12:35
mwewoodgrain: the difference is if you login as a different user it wont have any effect if it's only done for you12:35
Pyginase: apt-get?12:35
nasePygi, tried it..12:35
woodgrainmwe,  when I export PATH="$blahblah  does it overwrite or append?12:35
nasei tried "libsdl" but that didnt work12:35
naseno packages..12:35
mwewoodgrain: overwrites12:35
Pyginase: try just sdl12:35
nasenope12:36
mwewoodgrain: export PATH="$PATH":/extra/path12:36
nasethat too doesnt work12:36
crimsunnase: do you need to compile something that requires sdl?12:36
woodgrainmwe, how do I add a path to $PATH if it overwrites what was there?12:36
nasecrimsun, yes12:36
mwewoodgrain: export PATH="$PATH":/extra/path12:36
crimsunnase: libsdl1.2-dev12:36
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mwewoodgrain: note the PATH="$PATH" it prepends the existing path12:36
nasek12:36
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nickrudwoodgrain, you need to read up on login and interactive shells; but in general, what you've said is basically correct12:37
woodgrainmwe, don't understand thought you said it overwrites?12:37
mwewoodgrain: note the PATH="$PATH" it prepends the existing path12:37
woodgrainnickrud,  I'm using bash is this right?12:37
mwewoodgrain: like I said12:37
nickrudwoodgrain, yes12:37
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madehello all..12:37
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kameronwoodgrain: you can just edit /home/user/.bash_profile that's what i generally to do add to my path12:38
tafsenoKtosiTe, Im trying to make nautilus stop drawing the desktop so I can se the OpenBOX menu.12:38
mwewoodgrain: PATH=/some/path overwrites. PATH="$PATH":/some/path prepends the old path12:38
madeI have a question for troubleshooting12:38
gnomefreakit works :)12:38
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kameronwoodgrain: doing either what mwe or i said will both work12:38
nickrudlogin read /etc/profile, and <home>/.bash_profile; interactive reads /etc/bashrc and .bashrc12:38
C-O-L-T how can i disable all my iptables?12:38
madeI'm trying to install gstreamer0.8-mad in terminal12:39
woodgrainnickrud,  is etc/profile the systemwide .bashrc equivalent/12:39
woodgrainkameron, thanks that's really helpful@!12:39
nickrudwoodgrain, no, it's not that simple (I wish it was)12:39
ULffuntuhi, is there anyway in linux to do a mass search/replace on a folder full of m3u files?12:39
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mwenickrud: and .bash_profile is set to source .bashrc by default so putting it bashrc makes sure it's set either way, right?12:39
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kameronUlffuntu: there sure is12:39
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theinemade, go on...12:40
madeit askes me to insert the ubuntu disk and then I do. but when I put the dvd in it reads the disk and the icon shows up on the desktop12:40
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kameronUlffuntu: try: locate *m3u12:40
woodgrainkameron, what's the best way to learn about makefiles?12:40
nickrudmwe, I always put stuff in .bashrc so I don't have to think about it, yes :)12:40
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madebut I hit enter to continue the installation and it still asks me to insert the disk12:40
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madeas if it isn't seeing my disk12:40
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kameronwoodgrain: i don't know what you mean?12:40
nickrudand that brings up the subject of .gnomerc , for those that are following along12:40
woodgrainkameron, "make" configuration files for compiling sources.12:40
kameronwoodgrain: you want to read up on the process of compiling, etc?12:41
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kameron!compile12:41
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware12:41
Pygiuse gcc for compiling :P12:41
erUSULULffuntu, for file in `ls *.m3u` do sed -e s/string/string/ $file; done or something like that....12:41
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ULffuntuerUSUL: I'm copying that down12:42
madedoes anybody sugges anything for my issue?12:42
mweerUSUL: don't you need sed -i ?12:42
jeanhi12:42
jeandoes a fan on a heatsink bow air away from the heatsink or toward?12:42
jeanblow air away12:42
jean?12:42
crimsuntoward12:42
ilba7ranyone using evolution know if it is supporting automatic reply12:43
erUSULmwe, ULffuntu it was from memory i'm not sure of the exact syntax12:43
kameronUlffuntu: locate *m3u should be sufficient12:43
mweyou need sed -i to replace in files12:43
D1how much difference would going 1gb from 512 be?12:43
theinemade, gstreamer0.8-mad probably isn't contained on the CD...12:43
kameronohh, search and replace.12:43
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mweD1: 50% :)12:43
erUSULmwe, is sed -e 's/str/str/'12:43
crimsunD1: it'd make considerable difference when running multiple apps in GNOME12:44
jeanis a fan on a heatsink supposed to blow air toward or away from the heatsink12:44
D1hmm12:44
Dreamglidercan anyone help me install java12:44
mweerUSUL: what's that?12:44
oKtosiTeilba7r: if it does, make sure it doesn't auto-reply to spam. My dad now gets about 150 spam messages everyday thanks to an autoresponder he set up.12:44
crimsunjean: I just answered that.12:44
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spacey_kijean, to12:44
madeso should I remove the ubuntu cd from my repositories?12:44
erUSULmwe i thought that ULffuntu want to replace a word in every file of a dir12:44
kameronjean: TOWARDS12:44
mweerUSUL: it will replace something in a string but to replace something in a file you need sed -i12:44
ilba7roKtosiTe, thanx for the hint12:44
ULffuntuerUSUL: yeah, what happened was my mp3s switched partitions12:44
jeanair goes to heatsink12:44
oKtosiTeilba7r: ;-)12:45
kameronjean, yes12:45
Inf3ctedFxhey guys question: if I want to connect remotly to annother ubuntu box using ssh just typing ssh blabla@ip.com?12:45
ULffuntuerUSUL: so Z:/ goes to G:/12:45
mweULffuntu: use sed -i or it wont do what you want I think12:45
theinemade, please post your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood12:45
nickrudjean, towards, unless the instruction say otherwise (you never know with some manufacturers)12:45
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kameroninf3ctedfx: no .com generally12:45
ilba7rD1, i have a 1gb here do not see any difference but i run light weight wm and do not have mem intensive appl12:45
gnomefreakisnt it ssh -x12:45
Inf3ctedFxI mean the IP address kameron12:45
kameroninf3ctedfx: yeah12:45
Inf3ctedFxjust the ip withount .com12:45
gnomefreakssh -X12:45
crimsungnomefreak: only if you want to tunnel the remote [gui]  application12:46
jeanhow does a heat sink work then12:46
jeannickrud: this isnt even for a cpu...its a watercooler12:46
spacey_kiInf3ctedFx, either the hostname OR the IP address12:46
gnomefreakX lags big time under ssh12:46
Inf3ctedFxoks how about on the GUI enviroment? can I use the Terminal Server Client?12:46
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ilba7rD1, so long you do not use the swap they are basically the same 512 and 1gb12:46
crimsungnomefreak: you should be using vnc tunneled through ssh, then.12:46
woodgrainkameron, should I edit my .bashrc or my etc/profile to get more paths included in PATH?12:46
kameronjean: a heatsink is made of a heat conductive material that draws heat away from a device (cpu, etc). blowing on that with a fan helps disappate heat.12:46
nickrudjean, then, read your instructions, except: think where will the heat go, and the fastest.12:46
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gnomefreakohhhhhh ok i only sshed once and i used -X didnt know any better12:47
kameronwoodgrain: edit /home/user/.bash_profile12:47
crimsunwoodgrain: ~/.bashrc12:47
jeanhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heatsink12:47
kameroneh, i do .bash_profile crimsun12:47
theinewoodgrain, better edit ~/.gnomerc and modify your path there (if you're using gnome that is...)12:47
crimsunkameron: ~/.bash_profile isn't sourced for non-login shells12:47
woodgraincrimsun, but would emacsing up my etc/profile isn't smart?  Why?12:47
kameroncrimsun: what?12:47
mwekameron: that will only work for login shells12:47
nickrudlol, /etc/bashrc for everyone, .bashrc for you, and .gnomerc for you in gnome12:48
ThunderguyI was playing my media player xmms, then all of a sudden it locked up so I killed it with the gnome-kill app, and the process wouldn't die on me so I kept killing the process until it was gone, afterwards upon restarting it still won't play saying that it is unable to output to my audio, my audio output is set to Alsa, after some fiddling around X locked up so I restarted it with ctrl-alt-backspace upon reloading the GDM login screen was12:48
kameronmwe, crimsun, what's a non login shell, what do you mean?12:48
crimsunwoodgrain: because it's not a good idea to muck with system conffiles unless necessary.12:48
woodgraintheine,  I'm in bash though, through gnome, but still bash ... does gnomerc do the smae thign?12:48
Pygi!patience12:48
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.12:48
_nullhow can I remove all packages which I installed from a custom repo?12:48
woodgraincrimsun,  yeah, i appreciate that logic, thx.12:48
mwekameron: .bashrc is sourced from .bash_profile by default making sure it's read in either case12:48
madewhat is #flood    .. I'm new to irc as well..12:48
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kameronmade: it's a place where people post excessive lines for others to read12:48
gnomefreakmade, type /join #flood12:48
jader_can somebody tell me if the default ubuntu installation comes with and cd/dvd burner??12:48
gnomefreaklater all12:49
kameronmade: so it doesn't clog up other channels, like this one12:49
kameronjader_: it does12:49
Seveasjader_, nautilus can burn to cd, so yes12:49
kamerongnomefreak: lates12:49
theinewoodgrain, yes, the difference is that if you don't set your path in ~/.gnomerc, the Gnome environment is not aware of it12:49
madeok12:49
Pygifreaky: bye12:49
jader_thanks12:49
Pygifreaky: answer my mail :P12:49
Inf3ctedFxthere is any way to access to another linux pc using the Terminal Server Client?12:49
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kameronmwe: okay, what is a non login shell though? i don't get that.12:49
madebash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied12:50
kameronmwe: and if .bashrc is sourced from .bash_profile shouldn't you edit profile?12:50
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woodgraintheine, is it normal to edit .gnomerc?12:50
spacey_kiInf3ctedFx, not the same one as windows, but you can use FreeNX12:50
nickrudkameron, a login shell is where you have to enter your password; any other shell you do not (as I understand it)12:50
kameronmade: sudo <command> /etc/apt/sources.list12:50
madeok hehe12:50
Inf3ctedFxFreeNX?12:50
theinewoodgrain, I do it12:50
crimsunkameron: ~/.bash_profile isn't always read.12:50
kameronnickrud: what sort of shell can you use that doesn't require a password?12:50
mwekameron: one running under your current login12:50
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woodgraintheine, what is a good edit you do yourself/12:50
nickrudkameron, gnome-terminal is an example of a non-login shell12:51
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madewhat should the command be?12:51
Barry_evenHow do you install files to a palm?12:51
nickrudfrom the app menu, that is12:51
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coryphohello12:51
ULffuntuhola12:51
madesorry for my noobishness12:51
coryphoi have a problem with ubuntu..can anyone help me?12:51
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kameronnickrud, crimsun, mwe: really? so if i add something to my path in ~/.bash_profile, and open up gnome-terminal and try to execute it from a diff directory, it won't happen?12:51
theinewoodgrain, export PATH=${PATH}:${HOME}/bin12:51
theinewoodgrain, that's handy12:52
woodgrainnickrud, what's gnome-terminal is it a real schell?12:52
lucasvocorypho: ask a intelligent question... what's the problem12:52
mwekameron: by default, I believe so12:52
zorakanyone know of a way to increase your mouse's scroll whell speed?12:52
mwekameron: you can change resources and shorcuts to change it though12:52
kameronzorak: if you're in gnome, open gnome-control-center12:52
woodgraintheine, that adds /bin to both path and home?12:52
kameronmwe: that's strange, because i've _always_ edited .bash_profile to change my path, and never ever had it not read by gnome-terminal or konsole, etc.12:52
Barry_evenanyone snyc their palm with ubuntu?12:52
zorakthanks kameron12:53
kameronzorak: werd12:53
theinewoodgrain, no, that adds /home/<user>/bin to PATH12:53
woodgrainBarry_even,  I sunk my palm in a river once.12:53
madeI would like to sync my ppc with unbuntu.. but that's another story12:53
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ULffuntumade: are you ubuntu ppc?12:53
ilba7rkameron you need to change the path in .bashrc not bash_profile12:53
ilba7rthere is discussion on the forum on that12:53
woodgraintheine,  if I'm going to write some binaries, should I put them in /home/user/bin or in a more systemwide place?12:53
kameronwoodgrain: you've synched your palm to the bottom of a river, but what about to linux?12:53
nickrudwoodgrain, it's not obvious, but it's simple. the best thing I could suggest is setting variables in /etc/profile, /etc/bashrc, ~/.bash_profile, and ~/.bashrc, and try logging into virtual consoles and gnome-terminals, and see what is recognized where.12:54
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kameronilba7r: link?12:54
woodgrainkameron,  hell I'd never do that to my linux box.12:54
ilba7rkafeine, ok give me a min12:54
kameronwoodgrain: :P12:54
theinewoodgrain, if you're the only one using those binaries, I'd put them in ~/bin12:54
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Inf3ctedFxhey spacey_ki I already downlad it how can I start it12:55
theine... which is the same as ${HOME}/bin ...12:55
ilba7rkafeine, a little bit old one but is the one i used http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23938&highlight=path+bash12:55
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woodgrainnickrud, don't understand 'what's where'12:55
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kameronilba7r: are you talking to me, or kafeine?12:55
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nickrudwoodgrain, I know, I wasn't clear enough. It deserves a wiki page, with some examples. I'll do some someday.12:56
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ekorridornI've got a question: I try to get my nvidia geforce4 4200ti workin with ubuntu, when using "nv" driver in xorg.conf I get good working 2D-accell in 1600x1200 at wanted refresh rate, but when I'm using "nvidia" driver I can only run in  1200x1024, refresh rate is still good, I've tried with Modlines and Hsynx and Vsync is at right values, anyone know how to solve this?12:56
theinenickrud, please mention ~/.gnomerc on that wiki page...12:56
ilba7rkameron, you asked for a link for the .bashrc and bash_profile right12:56
woodgrainnickrud, theine  says it's best to put it in ~/bin --> no-one else uses these so why not?12:56
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nickrudtheine, yes, as a place to avoid :)12:57
nickrudexcept, maybe for a path12:57
kameronilba7r: yeah, then you started talking to kafeine, but he hasn't said anything.. in.. a very long time, if at all today12:57
theinenickrud, or WINDOW_MANAGER12:57
nickrudwoodgrain, I have all my personal bash scripts in ~/bin12:57
mwekameron: try adding something like echo "FOO" to the end of .bash_profile and echo "BAR" to the end of .bashrc. then type bash <enter> then bash --login <enter> and see the difference. You made me uncertain as about the default gnome behaiviour though12:57
woodgrainnickrud, what's the bias against ~/.gnomerc?12:57
ilba7rkameron, sorry i am using tab completionperhaps i made a mistake12:57
kafeinekameron, haven't said anything in this channel the whole week, i reckon12:57
kameronmwe: ill give it a try in a bit12:57
kameronilba7r: oh, okay, i get it. i was confused12:58
nickrudwoodgrain, no bias, it's just that .gnomerc can be abused.12:58
woodgrainnickrud, so ~/bin should be for my pers. shell scripts -- should I have a ~/etc for applications/12:58
kameronkafeine: haha! wow. that's strange. just a lot of reading hey.12:58
zorakkameron, i was able to open gnome-control-center, but the mouse preferences do not include an option for increasing scroll wheel speed12:58
holycowwhat kernel is the next version ofubuntu supposed to ship with?12:58
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fanopnaic2.6.15 IIRC12:58
holycowcool12:58
holycowthx12:58
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kameronholy crap xchat has tab completion, where have i been.12:58
fanopnaicyes12:58
Toma-yeh .1512:58
Mr_Molezcan anyone help me, i cant see to find my cdrom drive12:58
nickrudwoodgrain, sure, why not. I use ~/share for that kind of thing. No necessity for any particular dir12:59
Mr_Molez*seem12:59
Inf3ctedFxok I'm trying to connect to another machinne but it wont connect it said connect to host xxx.xxx.xxx.xx port 22: Connection Refused12:59
zorakya, i just realized that12:59
mweInf3ctedFx: yeah and so?12:59
woodgrainMr_Molez, system_admin_disks12:59
Toma-Mr_Molez: should be in your computer. IF youve installed it. ;D12:59
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Inf3ctedFxI need to connect to another machine via ssh12:59
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theineInf3ctedFx, make sure an ssh server is running on the remote machine...12:59
Inf3ctedFxI dont know why is not connecting12:59
Korupthow do I get JRE working on firefox in ubuntu??12:59
Mr_MolezToma-: ohh yeh i see it now, thanks12:59
Inf3ctedFxhow can I know that theine12:59
theineInf3ctedFx, is the other machine runnnin Ubuntu as well?01:00
Toma-haha01:00
mweInf3ctedFx: is the port open on the machine ie not firewalled and is anything listening on port 22?01:00
B_166-ER-Xdoes anybody would be knowing why i cannot see the 'images' of other people on aMSN 0.95 ?01:00
Mr_Molezwoodgrain: systemsettings ?01:00
woodgrainnickrud, what's the std install location for linux applciations: /share or /etc?01:00
Toma-B_166-ER-X: are the other people using msn 7.5?01:00
zorakdoes anyone know of a setting for increasing mouse wheel scroll speed? the mouse preferences do not allow you to change it...01:00
Inf3ctedFxyes mwe01:00
ULffuntuhave you guys ever saved a text file in gedit and then opened it with notepad in XP? Can you fix those linefeed chars?01:00
woodgrainMr_Molez, use your mouse to go to System --> administration --> disks ... should be able to find it that way!01:00
mweInf3ctedFx: I guess the ssh server is not running at the machine01:00
kameronwoodgrain, to answer your question from quite a while ago about "make" and compilers, you could also check this out: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-Building-HOWTO.html01:00
B_166-ER-XToma... i dont know that. but it does that for everyone01:00
nickrudwoodgrain, standard is: binaries in /usr/bin, libs and the like in /usr/lib/, and the rest usually ends up in /usr/share01:01
Inf3ctedFxok mwe  maybe now how can I make it run?01:01
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kameronwoodgrain, but that's just some random howto i found, try searching around on tldp.org or linuxquestions.com or something for a good guide01:01
Toma-B_166-ER-X: ahh i see. join #amsn and ask them01:01
Mr_Molezwoodgrain: i think its because i just installed a new kernel, it was working before. Ive tried loading all the modules but i still cant get it to work01:01
woodgrainkameron,  oh, yeah that's where I should have looked to start TLDP!!!! rulez01:01
mweInf3ctedFx: so nothing is listening on port 2201:01
kameronwoodgrain, i LOVE tldp01:01
B_166-ER-Xthx01:01
BearHunterHow do I change grub to boot to windows by default?01:01
mweInf3ctedFx: you need to read a ssh tutorial01:01
woodgrainMr_Molez, ask someone else, I can' t help!@01:01
theineInf3ctedFx, if the other machine is running Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install openssh-server01:01
nickrudwoodgrain, dpkg -L <package> tells you where each package puts it's files01:01
Mr_Molezwoodgrain: hehe ok01:01
Inf3ctedFxoks01:01
ekorridornanyone, no?01:02
mweInf3ctedFx: you can't just expect to be able to ssh to some machine01:02
ULffuntuBearHunter: there is a line called default in menu.lst01:02
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kameronB_166-ER-X, do you have imagemagick installed? amsn requires that01:02
Toma-kameron: theres simpler and more ubuntu biased howtos on the ubuntu wiki01:02
Inf3ctedFxmwe:  I used to do it with slack xD01:02
mweugh. amsn01:02
woodgrainnickrud, thanks good switch to know.01:02
ULffuntuBearHunter: /boot/grub/menu.lst01:02
BearHunterUlffuntu: I open that file an edit it?01:02
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mweInf3ctedFx: then you must have configured the server at the remote machine or someone else had01:03
kameronToma-, pass that on to woodgrain if you have a link01:03
Inf3ctedFxmwe: is the ssh already install now how can I make it run?01:03
Toma-!wiki01:03
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ULffuntuBearHunter: yeah, I think you can change the default startup entry that way01:03
theineInf3ctedFx, did you install openssh-server?01:03
kameronmwe: not an amsn fan? i love it. and the new .95 has webcam support too, very cool.01:03
Inf3ctedFxI'm trying to help a friend with the sound card so I;m going in01:03
Inf3ctedFxyes theine01:03
soundrayBearHunter, add a line 'default n' to /boot/grub/menu.lst. Replace n with the number of the stanza that boots Windows. Counting starts at 0.01:03
ULffuntuyeah01:04
theineInf3ctedFx, actually your friend needs to install openssh-server of course. did he do that?01:04
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DelvienI forgot the command to clear the dmesg list, can anyone tell me?01:04
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Inf3ctedFxyes theine01:04
ryblo_fI can't get my serial modem (on /dev/ttyS0) to respond to any AT commands... verified working in Windows.  Any kind help?01:04
cyphasewe need something like http://www.koobox.com/ for Ubuntu01:04
cyphase:P01:04
woodgrainToma-,  I want to cross compile for something else, can ununtu wiki heLP?01:04
theineInf3ctedFx, than it's already running on his machine01:04
mweInf3ctedFx: you need to install the ssh package01:04
BearHunterok trying that, thanks01:04
Toma-woodgrain: cross compile? what are you compiling for?01:04
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mweInf3ctedFx: then configure it01:04
Inf3ctedFxthe ssh package?01:05
woodgrainToma-, arm701:05
Inf3ctedFxhow can I configure it? mwe ?01:05
tafsenHow can I check if my graphic card is properly installed? And if it suports Open GL?01:05
f1k0ym4k4hi!! i'm new, somebody speak spanish?01:05
nickrudryblo_f, try http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto01:05
theinemwe, it works pretty fine without configuration01:05
DelvienCan anyone tell me the command to clear the dmesg list. isnt it something like sudo dmesg -l or something01:05
Toma-cant you just pass --march=arm7 or something?01:05
mweInf3ctedFx: RTFM. sorry I don't know any better way to explain it01:05
f1k0ym4k4where is the console ? :S:S01:05
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Toma-sorry, --darch01:05
theineInf3ctedFx, just try to ssh to your friend's machine now01:05
soundrayryblo_f, are you using terminal software like minicom?01:05
Inf3ctedFxoks theine01:06
Inf3ctedFxlet me c01:06
Inf3ctedFxits ok mwe01:06
mwetheine: ssh works without configuration?01:06
theinemwe, yes01:06
ryblo_fsoundray, that, or just 'sudo echo AT > /dev/ttyS0'01:06
mwetheine: how can I ssh to a machine without a key pair?01:06
Mr_Molezcan anyone work out why i cant get my cdrom drive working ?01:06
nickrudf1k0ym4k4, the 'console' is at alt-ctl-f101:06
ULffuntuanybody here work alot with gedit & notepad.exe?01:06
ThunderguyI have a problem in linux with kernel memory curroption and need to reboot the kernel, but how can I do this while keeping some programs open and network connections open?01:06
theinemwe, using a password?01:06
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soundrayryblo_f, of course you wouldn't see any output from the latter.01:07
mwetheine: just a password?01:07
theinemwe, sure01:07
kameronthunderguy: i don't think you can01:07
nickrudThunderguy, I think you ask for the impossible :)\01:07
ryblo_fsoundray, no, I understand... but even commands like ATDT do nothing you see01:07
mwetheine: that takes the "secure" part away from secure shell though01:07
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theinemwe, no it doesn't01:07
zorakdoes anyone know of a setting for increasing mouse wheel scroll speed? the mouse preferences do not allow you to change it...01:07
Toma-woodgrain: ./configure --target=arm7-linux01:07
Toma-i think01:07
ThunderguyIt might not be corruption though, what the problem is, /dev/dsp is locked by a program that no longer exists in cpu/memory space.01:08
BearHunterIs it safe to use the 'saved' option to use the savedefault setting instead of a number?01:08
soundrayryblo_f, how about in minicom? Silence, too?01:08
theinemwe, that's the standard way of using ssh, private01:08
ThunderguySo how do I unlock a device, that a non-existant program has locked?01:08
ryblo_fsoundray, yes minicom, wvdial, even the GTK stuff, silence01:08
kameronzorak: hmm, i know the kde control center has that option, i assumed that gnome does too, but i don't really use gnome01:08
mwetheine: um I would say so, not using encryption keys breaks the basic idea of ssh01:08
johanbrWell, what do you know. The kernel I compiled a week ago just decided to start working. :) I installed a new ubuntu kernel in the meantime, so maybe the install procedure for that cast some initrd spells that made it all work.01:08
kameronthunderguy: like a program that's hanging?01:08
theinemwe, please educate yourself01:08
Thunderguykameron: Yes, except it isn't hanging anymore, I made it stop hanging and die01:08
nickrudThunderguy, you could try killall on the process that is active on 'lsof /dev/dsp' , maybe01:08
woodgrainToma-,  do you do this stuff?01:08
theinemwe, you are wrong on this, trust me01:09
kameronthunderguy: im lost, what's the problem?01:09
mwetheine: however do what you like. I would never allow password only login to my machines01:09
Thunderguyah ok.01:09
woodgrainToma-, compiling for other platforms?01:09
zorakalright then, maybe i'll try swtiching to kde01:09
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Toma-woodgrain: not on ubuntu. used to on fedora01:09
zorakthe mouse speed is unbearable :P01:09
soundrayryblo_f, is the modem physically attached to your serial port, or is it built in and emulating a port in some way?01:09
Thunderguynickrud: It couldn't stat /dev/dsp said information may be incomplete01:09
woodgrainToma-,  how small can I make the Ubuntu install ?01:09
Toma-woodgrain: 350mb, iirc01:10
Dreamglideri'd love to get java installed/or working in firefox, can anyone assist me ?01:10
Toma-thats a server install i do believe01:10
kameron!java01:10
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs01:10
ryblo_fsoundray, physically on /dev/ttyS0 port01:10
ryblo_fsoundray, serial cable01:10
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woodgrainToma-,  thx ... too bad it's too big.01:10
theinemwe, private/public key pairs are commonly used for password-*less* logins which can actually be considered to less secure01:10
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Toma-woodgrain: what are you planning to install on?01:11
korridorenI hate nvidia01:11
woodgrainToma-,  some custy platforms I am building.01:11
Toma-i see01:11
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mwetheine: how are they less secure unless someone steals your private key and how would they do that without breaking in in the first place?01:11
nickrudThunderguy, I've never had that output, just almost that esd is tying it up.01:11
Toma-with an arm7, i thought it might have been some special embedded device...01:12
theineand besides, these key pairs are only used for authentication and have nothing to do with the encryption of all other traffic01:12
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tr011korridoren, nvidia is better than ati, a lot more... specially if we begin to talk about the lnx suport and the drivers01:12
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mwetheine: I know that01:12
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woodgrainToma-, what does that ./configure --target=XXX do?01:12
soundrayryblo_f, what's the output from ls -l /dev/ttyS0 ?01:12
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djfdsfdscan someone help me with this error, ./eggdrop: error while loading shared libraries: libtcl8.4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory01:12
blankyis there a limewire/gnutella channel01:12
theinemwe, so what? are you afraid of people guessing your password?01:12
ryblo_fsoundray, paste it in the channel?01:12
jader_is there some way i can convert a NTFS partition to VFAT on linux without losing data??01:12
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Seveasryblo_f, NO01:12
djfdsfdsthe file is there, why cant the sysem find it?01:12
soundrayryblo_f, it's only one line, so I don't think anyone will mind.01:13
Toma-woodgrain: it should tell the configure, to create the makefile with arm7 specific cpu instructions01:13
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nickruddjfdsfds, apt-cache search libtcl will probably find what you're afiter01:13
Seveasryblo_f, use tha pastebin (see /topic)01:13
ryblo_fcrw-rw----  1 root dialout 4, 64 2006-01-07 16:10 /dev/ttyS001:13
woodgrainToma-,  what's the configure?01:13
mwetheine: but I want to prevent unauthorized access. how is private public keys more insecure? It's pretty damn harder if not impossible to brute force an encrypted key01:13
woodgrainToma-, configuration file?01:13
mwetheine: and yes that's the point01:13
Toma-woodgrain: yes01:13
mwetheine: not giving way to brute force01:13
korridorentr011 : ok, It's just refuses to work for no apperent reason, and no one (gone through all the recomended guides, nvidia forum, and other forums) seems to know how to fix it01:13
woodgrainToma-, when you were cross compiling were you writing your own configureation files/01:13
Toma-nope01:14
Toma-just building rpms01:14
tafsenHow can I check if my graphic card is properly installed? And if it suports Open GL?01:14
blankyanyone know of a limewire/gnutella channel01:14
korridorentr011 : And I'm not hackin good enough to fix it by my self...01:14
theinemwe, brute force attacks are very01:14
woodgrainToma-, rpms for what target platform?01:14
djfdsfdsnickrud, libtcl is installed fine01:14
ryblo_fsoundray, it's in the pastebin...01:14
Toma-woodgrain: nothing fantastic, just 386 > 686 > ppc01:14
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djfdsfdsroot@phobos:/etc# whereis libtcl8.4.so01:14
djfdsfdslibtcl8.4: /usr/local/lib/libtcl8.4.so01:14
theine... easily avoided by not allowing more than 3 logins per minute or whatever01:15
jeananyone tried the game beneath a steel blue sky?01:15
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Toma-jean: yes01:15
soundrayryblo_f, for one line... :)01:15
korridorenjean : sure, loooong time ago01:15
jeanin the repository01:15
jeangood game01:15
soundrayryblo_f, looks fine.01:15
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mwetheine: Well on my servers I wouldn't allow password only logins. I'd use encrypted keys combined with a strong password01:15
Toma-jean:  yep. also, try scummvm01:15
korridorenjean : cool, guess I could run it without my gfx card as well! Jippi!01:16
ryblo_fsoundray, yes everything seems to be fine... I can't figure it out01:16
theineI would be more afraid that somebody in my office goes up to my computer while i'm off for coffee (and forgot to lock the screen) and steals my private key01:16
jeanToma-: just scummvm?01:16
soundrayryblo_f, I haven't worked with serial in Ubuntu - let me just check how it's set up...01:16
mwetheine: maybe that's just me, but I see your point too01:16
Toma-jean: itll lead you to all the other old-skool games :)01:16
ryblo_fsoundray, thanks  a lot for your help01:16
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theinemwe, peace01:16
Toma-jean: http://www.scummvm.org/downloads.php#extras01:16
narlescan't get vlc player working with sound.. terminal says i'm missing qdm2 codec... any suggestions?01:16
Toma-flight of the amazon queen is rad01:16
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jeanToma-: you mean download some to put into it?01:17
thingfishmisfit_toy: are you watching in here?01:17
nickruddjfdsfds, ah, I can safely say you are on your own, since libtcl8 is local (you did it yourself) but, you could look into ld.so.conf (?)01:17
Toma-jean: yes01:17
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jeanToma-: did you try lost labyrinth?01:17
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Toma-nope...01:17
jeanToma-: glob2? battle for wesnoth?01:18
jeangood games01:18
djfdsfdsnickrud, until about 2 minuts ago(when i made it manually) id dint have a ld.so.conf but i really dont know the syntax01:18
jeanall free01:18
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Toma-glob2, yeh like that. wesnoth, i hated01:18
soundrayryblo_f, if you enter 'dmesg | less' or similar and search for ttyS, do you find output from serial setup?01:18
Toma-turn based stuff irritates the hell out of me01:18
soundrayryblo_f, you can pastebin it if you like...01:18
nickruddjfdsfds, why do you have a local tcl, anyway? ubuntu comes with a perfectly useful one in the repositories01:18
ryblo_f'dmesg | grep tty' returns nothing...01:19
djfdsfdsit wasnt working, so i installed it from source01:19
narlescan't get vlc player working with sound.. terminal says i'm missing qdm2 codec... any suggestions?01:19
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djfdsfdsit didnt help01:19
nickrudwell, I hope perfectly useful. It used to be.01:19
ryblo_fsoundray, 'dmesg | grep tty' returns nothing...01:19
soundrayryblo_f, oh!01:19
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jeanToma-: hows flight of the amazon queen01:20
ryblo_fsoundray, ohh...01:20
soundrayryblo_f, well, that's at least a good reason for your modem not to respond :)01:20
nickruddjfdsfds, did you have problems finding the files needed for tcl development?01:20
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ryblo_fsoundray, missing module or..?01:20
Toma-i liked it. i think they made a movie about it recently...01:20
djfdsfdseggdrp wont compile or work right01:20
Toma-jean: ^^01:20
djfdsfdsthats all i really care about tcl for01:20
sluttiecan someone help to change keyboard from qwerty to azerty01:20
chorseanyone here using dapper?01:21
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thierry_chorse : in my chroot only, it depends what you want....01:21
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soundrayryblo_f, sorry, still digging...01:21
IMHas anyone Tried installing 5.10 under a windows Virtual Server 2005?01:21
nickruddjfdsfds, try installing tcl8.4-dev, or tclx8.4dev (a quick read, I haven't done any tcl for a long time)01:22
IMJust playing with the live CD to see if X will start... Works on the hardware without VS2k5 but not under VS.01:22
chorsethierry_: oh i just think about doing an dist-upgrade on my box @home01:22
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djfdsfdsactaully i got it, i just copied the tcl into /usr/lib01:23
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soundrayryblo_f, /boot/config-* indicates that serial is loaded static (not as a module).01:23
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nickruddjfdsfds, what works, works. But in the long term, learning the tools will help.01:23
soundrayryblo_f, could it be a device conflict?01:23
croutonhowdy folks01:23
crouton!ndiswrapper01:23
ubotuI guess ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper01:23
Toma-IM: most Virtual Machines need to install their own display drivers, because the people making the distro dont exactly care about VM support :/01:23
ryblo_fsoundray, no idea...01:24
djfdsfdsive never had a problem with tcl with any other distro i have ever used.... i used apt get to get tcl, it disnt work, whats a person to do?01:24
thierry_chorse : well forget it until preview releases, dapper is really not stable enough right now01:24
croutonanybody had problems with 'modprobe ndiswrapper'?  I'm getting 'module ndiswrapper not found'.01:24
soundrayryblo_f, is it a pretty bare PC or is it loaded to the brim with expansion cards?01:24
IMTOMA I am gussing I am pretty much screwed... Just trying to leverage existing equip....01:25
zorakdoes ubuntu include kde gui, and if so, how do you switch?01:25
nickruddjfdsfds, debian lays things out differently: you need to get the -dev files for compiling, and the names are not the ones you'd expect coming from mandriva-land01:25
Toma-IM: so X isnt starting?01:25
ryblo_fsoundray, fairly loaded... I think I saw some parameters for my ISA soundcard when I was playing with stty and setserial...01:25
soundrayzorak, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:25
kemikzorak:  kubuntu .. or apt-get kubuntu-desktop01:25
thingfishzorak: I think you have to go looking for kubuntu, if you want kde.01:25
chorsethierry_: well i don't expect a perfectly stable system01:25
nickruddjfdsfds, it's all a matter of semantics.01:25
theinedjfdsfds, what exactly doesn't work?01:26
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zorakah, that's what kubuntu is :)01:26
zorakthanks01:26
narlesHey, I can't get VLC media player to work with sound on certain .mov's... terminal says it cannot find the qdm2 codec... any suggestions on how to get it working?01:26
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djfdsfdsnickrud, madrake ownz =p01:26
djfdsfdsuromi never let me down01:26
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djfdsfdsurpmi*01:26
thierry_chorse : it's the way you like, testing is always needed :) but you need to understand how to fill bug and this stuff to help01:26
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nickrudmandrake 7.3 owned, I will claim debian owns since then :)01:26
theinedjfdsfds, what exactly doesn't work?01:26
IMToma, X starts however the display is unreadable... Like it is @ the wrong refresh rate or res... I tride in 640x480 and still unreadable....01:26
soundrayryblo_f, an ISA soundcard can cause that kind of trouble in principle. Would it be difficult to remove it, reboot and rerun dmesg | grep tty ?01:27
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Toma-IM have you tried setting the right Vert and/or Horz Sync?01:27
ambzorak: kde works perfectly well using normal ubuntu - no need to install ubuntu01:27
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ambzorak: I mean no need to install kubuntu01:27
chorsethierry_: sure, that's no problem. just wanted to get some expieriences before i do the upgrade01:27
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IMNope, just trying defaults on the live CD. Pretty painful going through the install 12 times...... First time under VS2k501:28
ryblo_fsoundray, worth a try I suppose...  Ah!  and I see that a part of the soundcard is trying to use IRQ 4.01:28
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ambzorak: forget it. I thought you said kdevelop. Must get more sleep01:28
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zoraknp, thx01:29
Toma-IM: live CD wont be much fun. everytime you reboot it, the settings will be lost01:29
soundrayryblo_f, the other thing you could do is play with the BIOS options for the IRQ and address for the COM port as they tend to be called in the setup.01:29
thierry_chorse : it would be a good idea to wait for test (or colony I don't know) release, right now we are still adding packages and fixing stuff so...01:29
theinedjfdsfds, `tcl is not working' is not very specific...01:29
ryblo_fsoundray, will do.  think we made some headway :)  Thanks again for the help!01:29
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narlesvideo sucks on ubuntu01:29
soundrayryblo_f, or even switch the jumpers on the soundcard around...01:29
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IMI guess I could perform the install and play with X01:29
ryblo_fsoundray, jumpers?  naah, this is a classy plug and play ISA board  ;P01:29
soundrayryblo_f, :)01:30
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Toma-IM: it'll be easier :)01:30
djfdsfdsthanks guys01:30
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soundrayryblo_f, glad I could help a little.01:30
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Kovecsesthere have been alot of gentoo vs ubuntu battles going on01:30
ryblo_fsoundray, :D01:30
IMYea......01:30
narleshow does gentoo handle video01:30
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googtotem01:30
yatesywith a video player usually01:30
googlol01:31
Kovecsesgentoo is great... but you compile everything01:31
narlesi'm new to linux01:31
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nickrudno battle, ubuntu wins hands down. compile nothing01:31
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soundraygentoo socks, ubuntu rucks01:31
yatesynot true, you can get binary packages for gentoo01:31
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narlesmy impressions so far is that video isn't to good for linux01:31
Seveassoundray, Kovecses gentoo and the quality of it are offtopic in here01:31
Seveasplease go to #ubuntu-offtopic for that01:31
Kovecsesyatesy, not really01:31
goognarles, this page will probably answer a lot of your questions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation01:31
Toma-ebuild is pretty simple actually01:31
nickrudsorush20, then what's the advantage of gentoo (soo offtopic)01:31
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soundraySeveas, a line of fun should be allowed after a good piece of work.01:32
narlesgoog, i'm familiar with it01:32
narlesi actually connected here to troubleshoot my problems with VLC01:32
jtraskhey, quick question - what's the benefit of using the ubuntu dvd?01:32
Kovecsescan somebody point me to a link about making .deb packages01:32
Seveassoundray, that's why we have the offtopic channel...01:32
chorsethierry_: thanks01:33
SeveasKovecses, check the documentation on the debian site01:33
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Kovecsesjtrask, if you have say dialup and downloads take forever01:33
Toma-Kovecses: are you planning to upload it to universe or anything?01:33
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goognarles, what are your vlc problems?01:33
KovecsesToma-, if poeple wanted it01:33
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narlesgoog, I can't get VLC media player to work with sound on certain .mov's... terminal says it cannot find the qdm2 codec... any suggestions on how to get it working?01:34
Toma-Kovecses: well what (if i may ask) are you making a deb of and what for?01:34
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jtraskKovecses: i can bt from this machine at good speed, it's on the same connection as the other machine but ive been having trouble retrieving packages and although the hard drive is small, i doubt ubuntu is big enough to fill it. dont know what the problem is, but would you say there's a chance burning the dvd from here could take care of it?01:34
Seveasjtrask, the dvd contains all of main and nothing from universe01:35
KovecsesToma-, the game ultimatestunuts01:35
KovecsesToma-, the game ultimatestunts01:35
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julio!tell julio about libstdc++601:35
juliohi01:35
narlesi installed a gstreamer ffmpeg file that supposedly fixes qdm2.. but still no sound01:35
SeveasKovecses, that game is unstable as hell, I tried running/packaging it but essentialy gave up01:35
juliohow can i get the libstdc++601:35
juliobecause to install aMSN i need isntall it01:35
juliohow can i?01:35
KovecsesSeveas, well im not even gonna try then ... lol01:35
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Seveasjulio, apt-get install amsn01:36
Toma-ahhhh cooooool. Kovecses, if its just for your use, you might want to try checkinstall, to keep your system apt friendly01:36
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Kovecsesare there any linux golf games?01:36
ryblo_f!seen sonic01:37
ubotusonic <n=sonic@eci94.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 9d 10h 19m ago, saying: 'hi'.01:37
Toma-Kovecses: not really :(01:37
ryblo_f!seen01:37
Toma-theres Neverputt01:37
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Toma-but its mini golf01:37
ryblo_f!seen sonic*01:37
ubotui haven't seen 'sonic*', ryblo_f01:37
KovecsesToma-, yeah been there01:37
goognarles, yeah thats what i would've tried. have you tried using a different video player, like totem or mplayer?01:37
Dreamglidercan i have diffrent wallpapers on each of the four workspaces ?01:37
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Toma-Kovecses: try trawling thru http://www.happypenguin.org/01:38
KovecsesDreamglider, thats a good question01:38
_ubuntuhow do i mount hdc1 with read access for all in konsole?? im on live cd01:38
skonDoes anyone know how to keep the DNS settings from erasing everytime you start the computer ?01:38
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nickrudDreamglider, no, it's a long time wish list item for the metacity window manger01:38
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mweskon: don't use dhcp01:38
skonmwe: why should that matter?01:38
ULffuntuskon: you could have your router issue static leases01:39
Kovecsesthey erase from resolv.conf?????01:39
mweskon: because it overwrites /etc/resolv.conf01:39
Dreamglidernickrud,  what's metacyti window manger ?01:39
Seveasskon, look at the StaticDnsWithDhcp wikipage01:39
narlesgoog, i'm open to using mplayer. But the .mov i tried came out choppy with bad picture. After reading the forums I think I might just avoid Totem in general01:39
SeveasKovecses, yes, dhclient does that01:39
skonK thanks Seveas, mwe, ULffuntu01:39
Seveas!seen sabdfl01:39
ubotui haven't seen 'sabdfl', Seveas01:39
goognarles, totem comes installed with ubuntu, unless you installed it, it's worth a shot. i personally like it.01:39
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googerr, unless you uninstalled it01:40
nickrudDreamglider, googling window manager will tell you a lot more than I can01:40
Toma-!metacity01:40
ubotuToma-: Wish i knew01:40
Toma-stoopid01:40
krodoes anyone know an equivalent of dvdshrink for linux?  I would assume you can do something similar with transcode, and I was hoping to find something simple tutorial with an example somewhere01:40
kemiknarles:  mplayer is superior to totem01:40
KoruptSeveas, how do I get JRE for firefox?01:40
_ubuntuhow do i mount hdc1 with read access for all in konsole?? im on live cd01:41
KovecsesDreamglider, its the window manager that gnome uses01:41
Seveas!tell Korupt about javadebs01:41
nickrudnarles, totem-xine is superior to mplayer01:41
kemik_ubuntu:  try #kubuntu perhaps01:41
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mweToma-: use !info metacity01:41
alekandrXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".01:41
alekandr (Whats the problem?)01:41
kemiknarles:  nickrud is obviously mistaken ;)01:41
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ompauljdub, u about?01:41
_ubuntukemik: im on kubunto too..... isnt it the same commands??01:41
Seveasalekandr, extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".01:41
Seveasthat's the problem01:41
kemik_ubuntu:  ah yes ;) i guess01:42
alekandrSeveas: That was almost funny01:42
kameron_ubuntu: it shouldn't matter if you're in konsole, or any other terminal. sudo mount /dev/hdc1 /some/place01:42
_ubuntukemik:  :)01:42
j2daoshanyone know how to setup the auto identify option?01:42
Seveasalekandr, the cause it that you probably didn't install video drivers and have an ati or nvidia card01:42
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kemik_ubuntu:  what filesystem isit?01:42
Seveasj2daosh, you mean on freenode?01:42
narleskemik, that's what i've read.. but the .mov I played in mplayer was choppy and had low quality01:42
kemik_ubuntu:  think you can play with "fmask" if it fat01:42
_ubuntukameron: yeah i know that but then i cant get access to it through konqurer01:42
alekandrSeveas: I did install my nvidiagfx driver :(01:42
_ubuntuits ntfs01:42
Seveasalekandr, which card do you have?01:43
mwealekandr: did you do everything the wiki said?01:43
j2daoshyeah i think so seveas... i mean its no big deal to constantly have to type /msg nickserv identify password but still... im lazy :P01:43
kameron_ubuntu launch konqueror from root, like: sudo konqueror01:43
Seveasj2daosh, use your nickserv password as server password01:43
kameron_ubuntu: or configure fstab, etc, but you're just on a livecd01:43
alekandrmwe: what wiki?01:43
kemik_ubuntu:  you could mount it with uid=UID and gid=GID options (but that would only help for one user)01:43
nickrudnarles, try xine, totem-xine, and mplayer against any video. Sometimes one works better than another.01:43
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mwe!tell alekandr about nvidia01:43
j2daoshserver password?01:43
kameron_ubuntu: keep in mind, the 2.6 kernel doesn't support writing to ntfs01:43
alekandrSeveas: fx5200 pci 256mb01:43
kemikkameron:  that's not really a good way to do it01:43
mwealekandr: read /msg from ubotu01:43
kameronkemik: do to dhwat?01:43
Seveasj2daosh, in the server dialog you can specify a password01:43
kameronkemik: to do what?01:43
j2daoshlemme look at that... see if i can figure out what your talking about01:44
kemikstart konqueror with sudo ?01:44
alekandrmwe: thanks :] 01:44
_ubuntukemik: cant use those only get a hlp screen01:44
kemikisnt it better to mount the ntfs partition with another user than root ?01:44
KoruptSeveas, thanks..... what is the package called though?01:44
_ubuntukemik: i cant mount if im not in root01:44
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kameronkemik: there is nothing wrong with launching konqueror from sudo, it gives you root permission in a file browser01:44
kameronkemik: you can't mount anything except from root01:45
Seveaskorridoren, sun-j2re1.5 oslt01:45
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mwe_ubuntu: add user under options. add umask=0222 as well01:45
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mwe_ubuntu: in fstab that is01:45
kemikumask.. not fmask :)01:45
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kemikdang01:45
saik0Where could I find out how do do something in OOo Calc?01:45
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kemikkameron:  well it's not cool to give konqueror / nautilus root permissions ;)01:45
kameronmwe: he's just on livecd01:45
mwekemik: there's dmask,fmask and umask. umask sets them both01:45
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ompaulsaik0, why not ask the specific quesiton and see if anyone here can answer it01:46
kameronkemik: it's not really a problem, tell me otherwise01:46
kemikmwe:  aight.. i did it the ugly way... "uid=1000, gid=1000"01:46
kemikbut it's a single-user system so it's ok ,)01:46
j2daoshahh sweet01:46
j2daoshthanks seveas01:46
Seveasnp01:46
kemikkameron:  it's bad practice and it's better to mount the volume with another umask or user to own the files01:47
saik0ompaul, yea I try to stay on topic01:47
kameronkemik: you're a woman01:47
j2daoshso whos gonna teach me how to compile my kernel? and explain to me why i would want to do that01:47
kemikkameron: i guess i am01:47
kameronkemik: "bad practice" isn't a reason for me not to do anything01:47
kameronkemik: just bugging you01:47
saik0How would I SUM up the values of an entire column in OOo Calc?01:47
nickrudsum( drag0select range )01:48
nickrudsum( drag->select range )01:48
Inf3ctedFxwhat is the best ftp client on ubuntu with GUI?01:48
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mweInf3ctedFx: define best01:48
nickrudI wish there was a best ftp client, I just use gftp most of the time01:48
kemikInf3ctedFx:  gftp some ppl claim01:48
Inf3ctedFxwell not really the best just one FTP use GUI enviroment01:49
_ubuntuahhhhh.... crap!   how do i copy a file in konsole???01:49
kemikbut there really isnt a good gui.ftp client imo01:49
saik0nickrud, I want to SUM up all of X column, not a specific range01:49
tafsenIf I play music from rhythmbox, I can't get sound from any other program. Why is that, and how can I fix it?01:49
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_ubuntu!copy01:49
ubotu_ubuntu: I don't know, could you explain it?01:49
kemik_ubuntu:  you know you cant write to the ntfs partition ?01:49
kameron_ubuntu: cp /from/location /to/location01:49
alekandrSeveas: nvidia glx or glx legacy for the fx5200?01:49
_ubuntukemik: i know that01:49
_ubuntukameron: thanx01:50
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nickrudsaik0, I'm not sure how to describe it, I've been doing columns/rows of values since visicalc.01:50
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alekandrmwe: the fx5200: glx or glx legacy?01:50
tafsencan anyone please help me with my sound problem?01:50
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Korupttafsen: what's up?01:51
saik0alekandr, glx01:51
mwealekandr: I have no idea, sorry01:51
mwealekandr: doesn't the wiki say?01:51
alekandrit does01:51
nickrudsaik0, sum(x10:y:10) where x:y is rows, 10 is column?01:51
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alekandrbut geforce2 cards can be legacy01:51
alekandrand the page to check is missing01:51
kameronalexandr: in aptitude click on both and read the description01:51
tafsenKorupt, I can't play sound from more than one sound source at the time =\01:52
kameronalexandr: not aptitude.. the other thing. the graphical front end to apt. synaptic.01:52
j2daoshhey got a question about snort... i just installed it because a guy im friends with at work said it was better then nessus or whatnot... but how do i see it? how do i start it? how am i supposed to know whether or not i have exploitable vulnerabilities if i cant see whte prog or what it is doing?01:52
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Korupttafsen: what type of sound card?01:53
kameronj2daosh: air snort?01:53
tafsenKorupt, dunno. How do I check?01:53
saik0nickrud, I use it for book keeping and it's annoying to ceek changing the function01:53
j2daoshno just snort01:53
KoruptSystem -> Administration -> Device Manager01:53
kameronj2daosh: oh, no idea01:54
j2daoshanyone even use snort or nessus?01:54
Korupttafsen: System => Administration => Device Manager01:54
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saik0ceek = keep*01:54
mwej2daosh: what do you wanna do?01:54
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tafsenKorupt, ok, I check it out01:54
j2daoshuse them lol01:55
nickrudsaik0, you and me both.01:55
mwej2daosh: yeah. for what?01:55
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j2daoshto know vulnerabilities i have... see if someone is screwing with my comp...01:55
mwej2daosh: maybe standard tools can do what you need01:56
KoruptSeveas, where does the defult firefox install have its plugins installed?01:56
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alekandrwish me luck01:56
mwej2daosh: sudo netstat -ntlp will show what's listening01:56
j2daoshi want a proggie that will show me all the connections that are active on my comp and what program is being run by each logged in user01:56
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SeveasKorupt, /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/01:56
johndarkhorseKorupt: /usr/share/mozilla/plugins01:56
johndarkhorseKorupt: there are many 'default' places01:56
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Koruptjohndarkhorse, was referring to on ubuntu01:57
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mwej2daosh: I'm sure you don't need snort for that01:57
nickrudj2daosh, sudo netstat, and -plant and -tlp are both useful modifiers01:57
ubuntuforgot i was on live cd! cant copy there01:57
ubuntuhow do i alter the ownership or read sccess to a folder??01:57
ubuntuaccess01:57
tafsenKorupt, Intel 82801DB-ICH4 ALSA Capture device?01:58
_jasonubuntu, chmod01:58
googhow do i get a trash icon on the desktop?01:58
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j2daoshright click the panel and hit add to panel01:58
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googthat puts it on the panel01:58
googi want it on the desktop01:58
Korupttafsen, okay.... now what you do is google for linux kernel support of your card...... the kernel may only support a single channel01:58
ubuntu_jason: so if i want to alter the folder /mnt/win i should do what??01:58
Mr_MolezI cant find any device nodes for my cdrom drive, can anyone take a guess as to the problem i have recently installed a new kernel (using the previous ubuntu kernel config file)01:59
_jasongoog, I believe there is an option if you use gconf, but I'm not on ubuntu right now.  If no one else can remember, search for Desktop or trash in there (I think it's apps -> nautilus -> desktop)01:59
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tafsenKorupt, Like "Intel 82801DB-ICHA kernel support" ?01:59
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Korupttafsen, yeah02:00
doinboxhello 2 questions how do i set up aol pppoe broadband connetion with bt voyager 100 modem02:00
nickrudgoog, open applications->system tools->Config editor, then inside that /apps/nautilus/desktop/trash_icon_visible02:00
ITSa341Good evening everyone02:00
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_jasonubuntu, you should just mount it appropriately, is it ntfs or fat32?02:00
doinboxand my floppy drive and cdrom wont work except that it will play music cds02:00
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ubuntu_jason: its ntfs02:00
Korupttafsen, more often than not on more obscure devices like yours there is minimal support if any02:00
goognickrud, thanks02:00
Mr_Molezdoinbox: you will have to find a driver for the modem (i dont think its well supported)02:01
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nickrudunlike _jason, I was in ubuntu :)02:01
doinboxok ill try and the problem with the disk drives02:01
narleshas anyone streamed their itunes library in their windows share to ubuntu?02:01
ubuntu_jason: ive already mounted it now i want to alter the access to it! im on live cd02:01
doinboxit says unable to mount02:01
kameroni just had an awesome idea. run camorama on a computer sitting next to my door, and mount a webcam looking through the front window, and have it connect to my wireless router, and tunnel info through ssh to my comp in the office, so i can see who's at the door. by any chance, has this ever been attempted?02:02
Koruptcoolness => /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so02:02
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nickrudnarles, do you have a working itunes under ubuntu?02:02
Koruptoops02:02
tafsenKorupt, well I get sound at least.  Can i compile anything to the kernel if it doesn't support it?02:02
narlesno02:02
Mr_Molezdoinbox: ive got the same problem with cdrom drive lol.. im asking aswell ;)02:02
Koruptwrong address   ^_^02:02
mwekameron: rofl02:02
narlesnickrud, i tried installing itunes with wine, but it never completed02:02
googi've got my mp3 library on a windows share mounted and added to the library in rhythmbox02:03
kameronmwe: think it'll work?02:03
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Korupttafsen: once in a great while yes, though you'd have to research that...... Seveas would be the one to ask there02:03
nickrudnarles, np, I'm just looking for someone with recent experience to update restrictedformats02:03
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mwekameron: if you're dedicated maybe you'll get it working02:03
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googthis is probably the busiest chat room ive ever been in02:03
Koruptokay, this is just sweet   => http://www.madmerv.com/portfolio/dotsnotgoogle/index.html02:03
narlesnickrud, thanks man, appreciated02:03
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narlesgoog, could i do that with amarok?02:04
Mr_Molezas well as my cdrom drive not having a device node my second hard drive wont mount (keeps saying busy, also fails on boot)02:04
Mr_Molezany ideas anyone ?02:04
kameronmwe: maybe one day.02:04
kameronmwe: it'd probably be easier just to get a really long usb cable. but when does usb lose signal?02:04
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tafsenKorupt, about kernel compiling?02:05
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mwekameron: I don't know02:05
vesIs there anyway to force dpkg to install a package?02:05
_jasonubuntu, unmount it with the umount command and then we can remount it with the right options so you know how to do it, k?02:05
Korupttafsen, about tracking down a kernel module..... I tend to spend hours looking for those sort of things and never find it02:06
ubuntu_jason: ok gonna umount it now02:06
doinboxcan any one tell me what i have to do when my floppy drive and dvd-rw drive say they cant mount02:06
tafsenKorupt, hehe. Ok ;) thx for the help02:06
doinboxplz02:06
Fredis there a way i can make iptables log blocked/rejected packets to syslog or some other log file?02:06
nickrudves, there's the --force option to dpkg, man dpkg will explain it. It's not something to do lightly.02:06
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goognarles, probably, but i dont use amarok. you just have to mount the windows share.02:06
goognarles, you have to install samba and smbfs02:07
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vesnickrud: ah I see, cheers. I've got something conflicting with scrollkeeper and I'm sure I've resolved it before by forcing the install..02:07
mweves: take care with --force it might break your system if you're not careful02:07
ubuntui get this when i write sudo -i "sudo: uid 1000 does not exist in the passwd file!"02:07
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_jasonubuntu, to mount it so everyone can read it: sudo mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ (but change hda1 to whatever yours is of course)02:07
googthen you can mount with sudo mount //<ip_of_windows_machine>/<share_name> /mnt/target02:07
narlesgoog, and doing this allows me to play my music in windows and ubuntu right?02:07
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narlesi'm just clarifying.. sorry02:08
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Kovecseswhere can i find screenshots of xubuntu-desktop?02:08
googyeah.. it will work assuming your music is already in a windows share on your network02:08
narlesawesome02:08
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googits just making that share accessible on the ubuntu filesystem, so basically amarok will think the files are local02:08
alekandrAll fixed :]  thanks mwe02:08
vesmwe: cheers for the warning, I'll probably hold off.02:08
mweKovecses: tried www.google.com/search?q=xubuntu-desktop+screenshot ?02:08
nickrudscrollkeeper has always been a bane of mine02:08
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mwealekandr: great02:09
alekandrmwe, i dont suppose there is a bot command for breezy sourcelists, my source list has hoary mixed in02:09
narlesok02:09
nickrudKovecses, look for xfce for screenshots of what xubuntu could look like02:09
mills00013join #Linuxhelp02:09
vesnickrud: How'd you mean? I keep googling for answers to those sort of problems and come up empty02:09
mwealekandr: don't mix breezy and hoary02:09
_jasonubotu, tell alekandr about sources02:09
mills00013Join #Linuxhelp02:09
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alekandr_jason: thanks L[02:10
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Koruptmmmmmmmm xfce02:10
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kameronKorupt: xfce is nice02:10
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nickrudves, I'm sorry, that was an off the cuff complaint about the toolchain that creates the files that scrollkeeper tracks, and the yelp interface.02:11
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twigmanpossibly dumb question from a newb...is mythtv in breezy-backports??  I got it from multiverse a couple of weeks back, but I don't seem to be able to find it now.  Any direction/help would be appreciated.  Thanks.02:11
vesnickrud: I see :)02:11
Koruptkameron, yeah...... my main gripe is the GNOME irritates me02:11
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CodenameKTtwigman: check your /etc/apt/sources.list02:12
mills00013has anyone been able to build jdmouse?02:12
kameronKorupt: you and me both. but it makes me feel kind of useless not knowing anything about gnome, and being in a ubuntu channel. that, and i run lilo and not grub.. so i'm totally useless :P02:12
holycowKorupt, so use kde, whats the big deal :)02:12
johndarkhorsetwigman: packages.ubuntu.com is up to date02:12
holycowkameron, whats to know? click and app and go?02:12
mwekameron: :)02:12
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Koruptholycow: I like KDE... but Ubuntu support for it currently sucks02:12
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holycowyou want to spend your time configuring useless settings, use kde :)02:12
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kameronholycow: just all the config of gnome and what not.. i don't get it. and i only know a bit about grub.02:13
Niko--how do you install authd (or identd) in ubuntu?  I can't find it through google search02:13
Koruptkameron: lilo??? why would anyone use such an antiquated system?02:13
holycowkameron, what config? what is there you want to config?02:13
nickrudkameron, lilo is heavan, don't let anyone tell you otherwise :)02:13
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mwekameron: I agree with Linus on his views about the path that gnome has taken and thus don't use it. I know how you feel though I feel the same in here :)02:13
holycowgrub has nothing to do with gnome, i don't see where you are going with that02:13
kameronmwe: what did linus say?02:13
holycowif you don't know grub, go find a distro that uses lilo *cough* good luck *cough* :)02:13
Kovecsesslackware uses lilo02:14
CodenameKTmwe: yes, what did linus say02:14
kameronKorupt: it's all i've ever used, and my DFI board refuses to boot to grub for some strange reason.02:14
mwekameron: let me find the link02:14
johndarkhorse!offtopic02:14
uboturumour has it, offtopic is Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!02:14
jediis there a way to upgrade a system from i386 to x86_64?02:14
kameronholycow: there isnt anything i want to config, i was just saying02:14
Seveasmwe, please, #Ubuntu-offtopic02:14
holycowi think you guys are working really really hard to find something to complain about :)02:14
twigmanCodenameKT:  Thanks.  I un-commented the line  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list, but a synaptic search finds no mythtv...02:14
holycowkameron, that is exactly my point :)02:14
Seveaswe've had this discussion a zillion times already02:14
CodenameKTtwigman: no prob02:14
mweSeveas: all right02:14
kameronnickrud: werd!! grub people get all uppity "we have a command prompt, we don't have to run grub-install everytime we change someting".. well you know what i say to those people?02:14
kameronholycow :P02:15
johndarkhorsekameron: nickrud: in #ubuntu-offtopic please02:15
nickrudthat if the bios is screwed, lilo can survive.02:15
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nickrudI'll leave it at that02:15
mwekameron: anyway the link. and don't comment or let's take the discussion out of here: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html02:15
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kameronmwe: okay02:15
holycowif your bios is messed  you have bigger problems than your bootloader, thats just stupid02:15
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Niko--so does anyone know how to install identd in ubuntu?  it would be nice to be able to use an irc network that requires ident02:15
doinboxcan someone with alot of knowlede on ubuntu private chat me please02:15
fasmohoola02:16
johndarkhorsedoinbox: ask in here02:16
fasmoalguien ???02:16
doinboxok but i never get an answer02:16
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Kovecsesfasmo, how did you do that02:16
mwedoinbox: ask in the channel so everyone can benefit02:16
D1yeah, we're one big blob of knowledge...collectivelly.02:16
johndarkhorse!es02:16
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:16
nickrudNiko--, install oidentd02:16
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fasmoalguien me ayuda a instalar un programa02:16
johndarkhorseNiko--: /msg ubotu find identd02:17
doinboxhow do i mount a floppy drive and dvd rom in ubuntu coz they both dont work they just keep sayin cant mount drive02:17
holycowfasmo, no hable espanol .... --> #ubuntu-es02:17
Niko--oops02:17
Niko--lol02:17
mills00013hey iv been having a some trouble building jdmouse.. im getting some errors that i dont quite undersand. so im not sure how to fix them02:17
johndarkhorsefasmo: por favor ingles aqui, espanol en #ubuntu-es02:17
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Niko--how come no identd package shows up when using synaptic?02:17
kameronmwe: "If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will02:17
kameronuse it." that's good.02:17
Koruptwait.... THE one and only Linus Torvalds said himself that GNOME sucks...... ouch02:17
crimsunLinus has been wrong in the past.02:18
kameronKorupt: yes, but.. #ubuntu-offtopic02:18
twigmanCodenameKT:  Not sure how to interpret 'No prob'...I don't see mythtv at packages.ubuntu.com either (though I wouldn't have known to look :)02:18
nickrudthank you, crimsun02:18
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mwecrimsun: yeah. and he likes statements with an attitude02:18
holycowKorupt, if you are so dogmatic, why not just stay in the kubuntu channel? whats the big deal? you like kde and exactly no one cares02:18
Kovecseswho knows if that even was linus02:19
jediis there a way to make an i386 installation 64bit?02:19
mills00013good point02:19
jadewolfkameron: hey buddy, I kinda got it installed, It seems my CDRW drive is going bad cause 2 CDs burned and I couldn't do full install I had to do 'server' install02:19
ITSa341<-- prefers Gnome or KDE to MS02:19
kingsleyHow does one tell which device a modem is attached to on a livecd, which has no /var/log/messages file? Nor is the modem listed in lspci or dmesg.02:19
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kameronjadewolf: oh no! that sucks.02:19
Niko--nicklas, how come ubuntu doesn't have any identd packages using apt-get?02:19
narlessay i save an openoffice document in windows XP format... how will it look if i load it up on windows-msword???02:19
nickrudit was, and he was complaining about something that is so darned trivial, an in development interface to cups.02:19
kameronjadewolf: you can apt-get install most things02:19
jadewolfkameron: yeah I just gotta figure out what to install02:19
doinboxok ill ask again  how do i mount a floppy drive and dvd rom in ubuntu coz they both dont work they just keep sayin cant mount drive02:19
mwenarles: why don't you try it? :)02:20
narleslol02:20
kameronis "ubuntu-desktop" a package you can install? i know "kubuntu-desktop" is one.02:20
Kovecsesdoinbox, did you check your fstab02:20
narleslack of motivation at the moment02:20
mwenarles: anyway to answer if it doesn't use to complex formatting it looks fine02:20
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Spudchathi everyone02:20
kameronjadewold: try "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" i don't know if it's an actual package though.02:20
narlesmwe, thanks02:20
Spudchatany ideas on how to convert avi s to dvd02:20
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doinboxkovecses i dont know what that is02:20
holycownarles, it will be fine, oo exports to some know basic word features.  ideally you want to send people pdf files tho02:20
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PuMpErNiCkLekameron: 'ubuntu-desktop' depends on the base ubuntu install as a whole, so through dependencies I think you'd get the entire installation02:21
KrhisAnyone hear about linuxtoday getting sponsored by Microsoft?02:21
doinboxwhats an fstab02:21
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johndarkhorseubotu: tell doinbox about fstab02:21
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holycowKrhis, what do you mean sponsored? they run almost nothing but ms ads anyway.  whats your point?02:21
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kameronPuMpErNiCkLe, good stuff, just checking for jadewolfs sake02:21
nickrudkameron, the big three: ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, and xubuntu-desktop.02:21
jadewolfkameron: how do I make sure its downloading all the newest stuff and not asking for CDs everytime02:22
kameronnickrud: xubuntu? what about edubuntu?02:22
narlesholycow, i ask because i might need to load up essays on other peoples computers at school, for printing/editing/etc02:22
kameronjadewolf, you'll need to update your /etc/sources.list02:22
damotorhi. I just updated from hoary to breezy and when I start the cmputer and ubuntu is gonna show gnome the desktop keeps black and I can't see neither the graphical screen nor the terminals02:22
bkdoes anybody know how to program gui apps C++ using the GNU compiler?  what class do I use?  is EZ Windows available?02:22
holycownarles, don't send in word format, send in pdf.  that is pretty well guaranteed to print how you laid out your doc02:22
kameron!easysources02:22
ubotukameron: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?02:22
Krhisholycow: Go to there site and look under the "Linux Reference Center"02:22
kameron!easysource02:22
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:22
nickrudkameron, I have to admit, I don't know if edubuntu is a meta-package02:22
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cafuegobk: gtk or qt are the most common libs02:22
narlesok02:22
kameronnickrud: it is02:22
doinboxi thought linux is supposed to be easy whats all this commands about i cant do that is there any straight forward linux02:22
nickrudso I see :)02:23
narlesholycow, i'm assuming it isn't to hard to convert to pdf in oo///02:23
bkcafuego, to program guis?02:23
holycownarles, oh editing ... well there are no guarantees when you go between office suites ... mostly you can expect it to be exactly right but its a hard thing to guess.  you should be fine but expect a glitch or two02:23
Niko--doinbox, you could rephrase your question02:23
cafuegobk: Yes. gtk is what Gnome uses; qt is what KDE uses.02:23
googhas anyone else noticed that abiword > ooffice ?02:23
doinboxsorry niko02:23
bkalright, i'll try it.  thanks02:23
cafuegobk: There are of course many others too.02:23
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kamerondoinbox: Xandros, lol02:23
nickrudsorush20, there's a fortuitous four, right now :)02:23
kameronnickrud: there sure is!02:23
holycownarles,  one click, and the funny thing is, it saves to pdf faster than the native oo format >_<02:23
bkcafuego, be my guest and rattle them off. lol02:24
Kovecsesmicrosoft formats are now open ... so in openoffice 2.1 or so the implementing will be perfect02:24
kameronjadewolf: did you get that link?02:24
cafuegobk: You may want to try 'anjuta' on KDE or um.. I forget its name... on Gnome.02:24
narleshaha02:24
holycowKrhis, wth are you talking about? its just an ad02:24
cafuegobk: Nah, google would be far better at doing that.02:24
Thunderguymicrosoft formats are now open? what caused this?02:24
Niko--Kovecses: really?02:24
nickrudI hate/love tab completion, sorry sorush2002:24
holycowms spends loads of cash on all linux websites throwing around fud02:24
KovecsesNiko--, yup ... want the link02:24
cafuegoopen or "open" ?02:24
KrhisI found it ironically amusing.02:24
kameronKovecses: what!?02:24
doinboxi heard linux was very easy to use, but everything seems to be a command you have to type to set something up and i would not know where to start with that02:24
holycowi think its great, anyone that is fooled by that deserves to buy ms products02:24
ThunderguyI want the link02:24
Kovecsesok lemme get it02:24
ThunderguyThank you :)02:25
Niko--Kovecses: sure02:25
doinboxis there any linux programs that are easier to use?02:25
holycowdoinbox, its not really on ubuntu, its just that command line is more direct and faster in the end02:25
narlesholycow, i would of course save my oo files as xp docs if i want to edit them on a windows OS right?02:25
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holycowdoinbox, what are you having problems setting up by gui?02:25
phreak97fuck02:25
PuMpErNiCkLedoinbox: Depends on what you're trying to do.02:25
Niko--doinbox: not everything requires command lane...gui should work for most things02:25
cafuegonarles: Why not use OOo2 on Windows as well?02:25
doinboxwhat is gui02:25
_jasonnarles, or you can install open office on the windows computer02:25
jadewolfkameron: ugh whats the apt-get for gdm so I can cut and past02:25
kameronjadewolf: i can send you a copy of my sources.list if you like02:25
phreak97linux has way more problems than linux users claim02:25
PuMpErNiCkLedoinbox: GUI - Graphical User Interface02:25
holycownarles, to be sure save in ms office 2000/97, not everyone has the latest ms office format02:25
kameronjadewolf: you're on command line right?02:25
phreak97vlc shit itself for no reason02:25
doinboxoh i see what you mean02:25
jadewolfkameron: yup02:25
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moyogohi02:26
doinboxa screen where i am given options to set something up02:26
phreak97reinstall didnt fix it02:26
kameronjadewolf: if i paste my sources.list to a pastebin, is that going to be difficult, or not bad? i don't do a lot of command line stuff.02:26
PuMpErNiCkLedoinbox: Exactly.02:26
phreak97it has ony a play/pause button and a volume control02:26
phreak97nothing else02:26
holycowdoinbox, all your settings are under the system menu in the top left ... look there02:26
jadewolfthat would be fine kameron02:26
holycowdoinbox, for regular users there is nothing else you need02:26
Mr_Molezargh...... aint anyone got a clue why no device nodes have been created for my cdrom drive ?02:26
doinboxok cool02:26
moyogoi wanted to try dapper today, putting in the live-cd, it didn't get past the login screen claim a "ubuntu" user would be logged in, to no avail02:27
holycowdoinbox, if there is something you need to setup via command line, its either very rare, or you are trying to do something requiring inermediate/advanced skills02:27
ThunderguyHey Kovecses, can you say my name around the time you paste the link? I'm going to go away, and this channel is pretty crowded02:27
moyogois there a default password or something set ?02:27
PuMpErNiCkLemoyogo: Not for the livecd.02:27
doinbox1 more thing i have searched all over google for a way to install a bt voyager 100 modem so i can connect to aol broadband using pppoe but i cant find it anywhere please can someone help me with this02:27
Niko--hmm, so far ubuntu seems pretty good...I just switched from fedora today02:27
PuMpErNiCkLemoyogo: It's still a developmental release, so it's possible you've hit a bug.02:27
holycowdoinbox, the one exception is when people install ubuntu without research, for example they try to install ubuntu on non supported hardware ... in that case its the users fault, you haveto make sure you have supported hardware02:27
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moyogoPuMpErNiCkLe: aight, that's all I wanted to know02:27
phreak97anyone, how do i do a complete reinstall? i chose in synaptic to completely remove02:27
phreak97but it didnt fix it02:27
PuMpErNiCkLephreak97: A complete reinstall of what?02:28
nickrudholy_cow, no, it's not the user02:28
doinboxhow can a floppy disk drive not be compatible with an o/s they should be compatible with everything02:28
damien_how come i only see 4000 packages in synaptic and 17 000?02:28
kameronjadewolf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/677402:28
phreak97PuMpErNiCkLe,  VLC02:28
nickrud's fault, really. How could they know?02:28
holycownickrud, if the user doesn't do their research, its their fault.02:28
damien_and not*02:28
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kameronjadewolf: copy and paste that into /etc/apt/sources.list02:29
Mr_Molezdoinbox: http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/index.php?lang=en&id=17202:29
Mr_Molezfound that in 1 second02:29
mills00013does anyone know where i can get a copy of itunes 4.9?02:29
kameronjadewolf: then: sudo apt-get update02:29
PuMpErNiCkLephreak97: In synaptic, there's an option when you right-click on a package "Mark for reinstallation".02:29
phreak97PuMpErNiCkLe,  tried02:29
holycownickrud, easy, its called research.  every consumer is required to do it.  in the freemarket its buyer beware for the most part02:29
doinboxthanks molez02:29
nickruds/a ma/at ma/02:29
PuMpErNiCkLephreak97: What happened?02:29
Kovecsesok guys took me a minut02:29
Kovecseshere it is02:29
Kovecseshttp://www.osdir.com/Article7932.phtml02:29
phreak97PuMpErNiCkLe,  it reinstalled, then when i ran it, it still had almost no gui'02:30
alekandrWhere is gnomes theme folder for user 'root'02:30
holycowKovecses, i'll believe it when i see it02:30
PuMpErNiCkLephreak97: "Almost" no GUI?02:30
holycowKovecses, it's guaranteed not to be free either02:30
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kameronalekandr: probably in /root02:30
holycowor without certain strings02:30
Kovecsesholycow, did you even read the article02:30
phreak97PuMpErNiCkLe, want a screenshot?02:30
nickrudholy_cow, this is the human distro, supposedly humanity looks out for all. <laughs himself nearly to death>02:31
Mr_MolezPuMpErNiCkLe: u got ne idea y my cdrom drive aint got ne device nodes ?02:31
PuMpErNiCkLephreak97: Yeah, sure - put it in the pastebin.02:31
holycowKovecses, sure, its a useless article with no info02:31
PuMpErNiCkLeMr_Molez: Sorry, no clue. :(02:31
Kovecsesholycow, no you have to click the link02:31
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phreak97!pastebin02:31
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:31
holycownickrud, well i agree with the ideal :) but before one can 'look out for humanity' one must 'take responsibility for their own actions'02:31
Kovecsesholycow, do be a dick I wasnt saying it was going to happen .. i just said thats what i heard02:31
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jadewolfkameron: thanks got it put into place02:32
mfvhi, i just downloaded Ubuntu LiveCD 5.10, and there are a bunch of questions about installation on bootup.  is the LiveCD a self-contained distro like Knoppix?02:32
jadewolfglad I still know vi pretty good :002:32
doinboxmolez  hey that link you just sent me it says download .rpm version but there are 2 rpm versions which 1 do i need sorry to do your head in02:32
holycowKovecses, if you interpreted my comment as a slight against you ... well touche.  at worst it was neutral, i'm simply distrustfull of ms thats all.02:32
kameronjadewolf: good. if you get gpg errors, cat /etc/apt/sources.list and follow the instructions at the top.02:32
Kovecsesholycow, as am i02:33
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diablo69what ports woudl I have to forword to send and recieve files on xchat?02:33
holycowKovecses, i think that would be great but the article still doesn't say anything important ... ms is known for having licences that appear free but arent really02:33
Mr_Molezdoinbox: http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/download/eciadsl-usermode-0.11.tar.gz02:34
holycowand are patent restricted, as well as restricted in other ways ...02:34
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Kovecsesholycow, yeah they suck02:34
xsquaredcould someone please look at this: http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=network5fh.jpg and tell me what i have to do to allow me to connect to the 10.0.0.xxx network?02:34
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phreak97PuMpErNiCkLe,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d677502:34
holycowif ms decides to completely open up their file formats for the office suite, and completely unencumber them from patents and other weirdo clauses ... that will truly be something02:34
diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: sup man02:34
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doinboxthanks for your help man very kind of you02:35
PuMpErNiCkLephreak97: That's about the same as I get from VLC when I just open it - it's just a very minimalist interface.02:35
cp_I think I found a bug which is somewhat serious, that is for 686 users who install with the 386 cd.02:35
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blockois this for noobs here?02:36
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PuMpErNiCkLephreak97: So unless it won't actually play music/movies for you (supported formats, I mean) I don't see it as a bug.02:36
Kindredblocko, sure02:36
Kovecsesblocko, ask your question02:36
PuMpErNiCkLediablo69: Yo!02:36
holycowblocko, aren't we all just newb on the great learning curve of life? :)02:36
diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: whatcha having probs with man?02:36
Mr_Molezxsquared: umm that is confusing but i think 10.0.0.6 needs to be made to forward traffic (make it like a router/hub)02:36
cp_After rebooting the system booted from the 686 kernel, but it isn't showing up in the debian packages.  Thus it would not be updated when security updates come out.02:36
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navaroneholycow...very zen...:)02:36
blockoI just want to know how to run something at startup - boinc_client02:36
PuMpErNiCkLediablo69: Nada - everythign works for me. :)02:36
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diablo69kew kew :)02:37
holycownavarone, naw, too much caffeine :)02:37
tafsenAnyone here who can help me with WoW on Ubuntu?02:37
diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: can you send and recive files on irc?02:37
cp_So how do I report it without adding my email address to the spam harveted bugzilla?02:37
navaroneholycow...close enuff02:37
mfvhi, i just downloaded Ubuntu LiveCD 5.10, and there are a bunch of questions about installation on bootup.  is the LiveCD a self-contained distro like Knoppix?02:37
holycowlol! indeed!02:37
xsquaredMr_Molez: that is my workstation.. i do route traffic from 192.168.0.xxx to 10.0.0.xxx.... i would just like to know how to make it go the other way02:37
Seveasmfv, no02:37
ubuntuAnyone here have experience of updating Debian -> Ubuntu?02:38
navaroneholycow, a chai latte can be heaven when needed...lol02:38
Kovecsesmfv, i thought it was... i think you may have the install cd02:38
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Seveasubuntu, it's tricky, unsupported and generally not recommended02:38
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Seveasubuntu, having said that: it's been reported to work02:38
holycowthat should count as my good deed for the year02:38
holycow*cough*02:38
fasmoholaaa02:38
Kovecsesubuntu, its better to do a fresh install02:38
phreak97PuMpErNiCkLe, i'd like to be able to start a video over again without reopening it02:38
ubuntuClean install then?  I already have debian installed02:38
Niko--hmph...ubuntu doesn't by default allow users to have access to other mounted volumes (e.g., vfat, etc)?02:38
PuMpErNiCkLediablo69: Nope, I'm behind a hardware firewall.02:38
blockoi have a script, but where does it go02:38
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phreak97it at least gave me a stop button before02:38
mfvKovecses: i downloaded ubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso02:39
holycowubuntu, also backing up yoru files is trivial.  get a cd or a usb stick and copy your home dir to it02:39
Mr_Molezxsquared: duno.. but 10.0.0.6 needs to be doing the routing between the 2 networks02:39
diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: wouldn't a firewall be considered a router as well?02:39
holycowreinstall ubuntu from scratch copy home back, your done02:39
Kovecsesmfv, what kind of questions?02:39
PuMpErNiCkLephreak97: It doesn't show a pause / FF /RW button when it's playing media?02:39
xsquaredMr_Molez: yeah, im trying to find out, but no-one can help me :'-(02:39
ubuntuWhat about system configuration?02:39
PuMpErNiCkLediablo69: It's a dlink, so it can also be considered a piece of shit. :)02:39
johndarkhorsePuMpErNiCkLe: that belongs in the barnyard, not here please02:39
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navaronewill files in home directory for debian system be fully compatible w/ ubuntu based one?02:40
Mr_Molezxsquared: is a firewall only allowing 10.0.0* ?02:40
holycowubuntu, what about it?  this is a debian distro .. the kernel will load up all the drivers it needs02:40
johndarkhorsenavarone: technically yes.02:40
xsquaredMr_Molez: no02:40
holycowubuntu, the only thing you need to worry about is non supported hardware, but if you have debian running, ubuntu will be no prob02:40
ubuntuYeah but I have firewall configured/apache/ssh etc etc...02:40
xsquaredMr_Molez: no firewall, just using iptables to gateway02:40
diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: tru, but I was reading something about my ati radion 9250 card, member how it froze at startup , I took out my card and now it works flawlessly, I read that there is drivers to it02:40
diablo69is that tru?02:40
Mr_Molezxsquared: they are all on the same subnet yes ?02:41
navaronejohndarkhorse, I thought so...but maybe present problems as far as progs that are geared with ubuntu and not vanilla debian I would think02:41
xsquaredis it possible to have 2 gateways?02:41
xsquaredyes they are on the same subnet02:41
phreak97PuMpErNiCkLe, no, thats the problem02:41
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holycowubuntu, that is a bit trickier, and it depends on the app.  it is possible to restore those properly but ... if you don't know how to do it, its faster to reinstall from scratch than it is to learn how to backup those apps seaparately02:41
Niko--how come when ntfs is mounted it sets the directory as root-readable only but when vfat is mounted anyone can read it?02:41
PuMpErNiCkLediablo69: Yes, and no... ati does provide drivers, but they're not very good, and there are free/open source drivers made through reverse engineering, but they're not very copmlete either.02:41
Mr_Molezxsquared: yeh it should be02:41
phreak97it shows pause/play (theyre the same button) and thats all02:41
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diablo69should I just get a nvidia then?02:41
Kovecsesfglrx works flawless for me02:41
ubuntuWhat does ubuntu give me that Debian doesn't?  or is that a dumb question?02:42
phreak97ill restart and see shall i? i did reinstall02:42
mfvKovecses: well there is an error reading from the CD, but it also asks what modules to install for installation... i believe things like PCMCIA, etc...02:42
lostbluranyone got a link handy for sharing MOUNTED NTFS drives within a linux box, on to the rest of the network? my eyes are bleeding from reading through a ton of inapplicable search results.02:42
kameronjadewolf: all going well?02:42
Kovecsesubuntu, newer software02:42
PuMpErNiCkLediablo69: If you think you'll be doing a lot of 3d stuff - ie, games - then nVidia/high-end Intel integrated are the only options.02:42
johndarkhorsenavarone: the only real differences are in the deb pkg names and versions numbers (there are some binary differences, too) but your programs should run fine (rename your existing homedir and move over one ./.dir at a time to check compatibility)02:42
ubuntuI do find Debian a bit pedestrian02:42
holycowubuntu, nothing really, except ubuntu takes debian unstable, freezes it and applies lots of cash and handpolish to make it work as a desktop.  in debian you would haveto do that work your self02:42
PuMpErNiCkLephreak97: sure, let me know if it fixes it02:42
PuMpErNiCkLephreak97: I'll check to see if anyone else has reported the same problem.02:43
KovecsesPuMpErNiCkLe, how long has it been since youve used ati02:43
navaronejohndarkhorse, I wasn't planning on attenpting...just thinking out loud...lol02:43
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phreak97ok02:43
PuMpErNiCkLeKovecses: Since I stopped using my parents' Mac. :)02:43
diablo69I'm going to see fi xwine will run a game02:43
phreak97it worked fine till today02:43
ubuntuI like the idea of someone else doing the polishing02:43
phreak97brb02:43
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KovecsesPuMpErNiCkLe, the drivers are very good now...02:43
KovecsesPuMpErNiCkLe, still not open source though02:43
holycowubuntu, striking a balance between 'power and configurability' versus ' preconfiguring a distro for the desktop' are mutually exclusive.  its not that you can't get ubuntu to do anything else, its just that its polished up for you so you don't haveto do it your self.  plus you have the latest and greatest toys02:43
kameronmwe: okay, i found out i can use a usb repeater02:44
CarlI'm having trouble accesing a fat32 partition from ubuntu can somone help me?02:44
holycowubuntu, i use ubuntu for desktop only, debian for servers.  you cannot beat debian officially supporting 16k packages and for a server thats fantastic02:44
xsquaredCarl: did you mount it?02:44
Seveasholycow, and nonsense :)02:44
ubuntuSO... worth the effort of upgrading, or is that an 'it depends'?02:45
holycowalthough if ubuntu decides to do somethin evil, i'm going back to debian on desktop in a second :)02:45
Kovecsesubuntu, it depends02:45
PuMpErNiCkLeKovecses: Does that cover their newer products, too? ;)02:45
holycowand then there are those that disagree with me ... *cough* :)02:45
KovecsesPuMpErNiCkLe, im using a brand new card02:45
johndarkhorseCarl: check your fstab permissions02:45
Carlmount?02:45
Carl???02:45
ubuntuI thought so, this is a server I'm talking abot, but not production02:45
PuMpErNiCkLeKovecses: hm.  This is news to me...02:45
xsquaredomgwtfbbq02:45
Carlit just gave me an message -you do not have permissions necessary02:46
xsquaredmount the drive. then you can access it02:46
lostbluranyone got a link handy for sharing MOUNTED NTFS drives on to the rest of the LAN? my eyes are bleeding from reading through a ton of inapplicable search results.02:46
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Kovecsesholycow, like become not free?02:46
Seveaslostblur, system -> admin -> shared folders02:46
CarlI'm a linux newbie02:46
Dreamgliderhow do i fix a broken package ?02:46
nickrudholy_cow, how could anyone dissent from that?02:46
xsquaredCarl: man mount02:46
holycowKovecses, well marks opinion on dcc is currently rubbing me the wrong way for example02:46
Carlhow do I mount?02:46
Kovecsesholycow, dcc?02:46
xsquaredCarl: man mount02:46
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CarlI'm sure that is probably the stupid question ever02:47
holycowalbeit mark is right about their lsb approach .. Kovecses dcc alliance02:47
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CarlFKlostblur and Carl - if you are doing windows things, check out  http://www.fs-driver.org  "It provides Windows NT4.0/2000/XP with full access to Linux Ext2 volumes (read access and write access)."02:47
xsquaredbut since your new, its all good02:47
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lostblurthanks seveas & carl02:47
ubuntuholycow:  Thanks for the info.. I'll continue to think about it.02:47
CarlI want to read a fat32 partition from linux though02:48
Kovecsesubuntu, are you running sarge?02:48
ubuntuDaft question:  how do I find out?02:48
holycowubuntu, sure just a rough outline from my perspective, try maybe getting vmware and running ubuntu server under that to test if you don't have a spare machine02:48
holycowor whatever vm environment youfancy02:48
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navaroneCarl there is a script called win_macfstab that you can dl and run to setup your drives to auto mount...if someone could provide link...02:48
Kovecsesubuntu, you dont know what version of debian you are running02:48
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Carlok02:49
ubuntuThink it's now STABLE, is that Woody?02:49
BachstudiesAfter starting my computer I received a Grub error 17...Is there anyway to retrieve my filesystem without reformatting?02:49
Carlthat sounds good, I'm confused bout mounting though02:49
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cafuegoubuntu: No, sarge.02:49
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xsquaredsarge02:49
Kovecsesubuntu, stable is sarge now02:49
navaroneCarl I ahve used it but cannot recall the url to dl from...but it will provide instructions for using as well02:49
Seveas!tell Carl about diskmounter02:49
cafuegoMind you, if yours is OLD, it might be woody.02:49
ubuntuEasy way to make sure??02:49
SeveasCarl, ubotu just sent you a message02:50
CodenameKTubuntu: how dare u call urself such a name02:50
Seveasubuntu, cat /etc/issue02:50
cafuegoubuntu: 'uname -r' -> what does that say?02:50
navaroneSeveas is diskmounter worth looking into...instead of running win_mac script?02:50
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Seveasnavarone, it's a rename :)02:50
navaroneok02:50
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dawidhi, in which file is my video config located.. i want to manually change refresh rate02:50
ubuntuThat says: 2.6.8-2-38602:51
cafuegoubuntu: That's sarge02:51
Kovecsessarge02:51
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hydroksydedawid, /etc/X11/xorg.conf I guess02:51
ubuntuI'm on sarge then.  Does that make a difference?02:51
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navaronewhenever I see "sarge" I wanna shout "ten-hut"...maybe jsut me...;)02:51
Kovecsesubuntu, you didnt install yourself?02:51
phreak97PuMpErNiCkLe, no good02:51
ubuntuYes, I installed it02:52
phreak97and i got a bunch of errors when i closed it too02:52
Toma-!freenx02:52
ubotuI guess freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX02:52
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dawidokay i found.. refresh 43-60, should i change that to 60-85?02:52
tafsenglxgears should shove me some 3d in movement right?02:52
holycowtafsen, yep02:53
ubuntuSo is Sarge a problem?02:53
tafsenholycow, well.. I only see some red color and a litle movement02:53
Kovecsesno sarge is great02:53
cafuegoubuntu: problem for what? (I just walked in)02:53
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ubuntuI'm thinking og *upgrading* to Ubuntu02:54
ubuntus/og/of02:54
Toma-Seveas: nxclient needs stdc++2? doesnt it compile with 5 ?02:54
holycowtafsen, that means you either dont have a vid card with 3d accelration (do they still make those?) or you havent installed drivers that have 3d acceleration support for your card.02:54
cafuegoubuntu: Ah... by doing a dist-upgrade? it will _probably_ work, but you _will_ need to tweak stuff manually afterwards.02:54
_nullhow can I remove all packages which I installed from a custom repo?02:54
tafsenholycow, glxinfo | grep direct02:54
tafsendirect rendering: Yes02:54
SeveasToma-, nxclient isn't open source, I didn't compile it02:55
Toma-Seveas: ahhh ok. thx :)02:55
ubuntuI can tweak. I just don't want to spend weeks doing it02:55
cafuegoubuntu: Any chance you can backup, wipe, install Ubuntu?02:55
ubuntuThat's an option.  Better idea?02:55
tafsenholycow, does that say you anything?02:56
cafuegoubuntu: it's by far the best way to go.02:56
holycowtafsen, no, what question are you trying to answer?02:56
cafuego_null: Select them in Synaptic, remove them.02:56
_nullcafuego, i don't know which one belongs to which repo...02:56
ubuntucafuego: thanks for the advice02:56
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cafuego_null: ... here endeth the lesson.02:56
mr-russare ubuntu packages compiled with thread safety by default if a package has the option?02:57
cafuego_null: Did you originally install them using synaptic?02:57
_nullcafuego, no ;)02:57
cafuego_null: Then there won't be a log, so you're stuffed.02:57
dawidexit02:57
tafsenholycow, im trying to get my 3d card work.  I played WoW in Windows so I know it should work.02:57
_nullcafuego, ok. :)02:57
ubuntuHow does Ubuntu do for Python support?  Anyone here a Pythoneer?02:57
cafuegotafsen: that's not guaranteed. Is it an S3? ;-)02:58
holycowtafsen, well thats different, what video card do you have?02:58
_nullcafuego, not a big problem... backup replay :p02:58
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cafuegoubuntu: Ubuntu si virtually built around python.02:58
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pierre__bonsoir a tous02:58
deangubuntu : I haven't been disappointed.   What are you looking for?02:58
tim__hello02:58
tafsenholycow, I have a 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device02:58
sparkaloHey every body!  My wireless connection finally works ^_^02:58
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tim__anyone feel like helping a linux newb02:58
ubuntuDebian seems to be a bit 'behind the curve'.02:58
holycowtafsen, from what i remember you can pretty well forget getting 3d acceleration for itunder linux02:58
cafuego_null: You could try 'dpkg -l' and see if there are any odd-looking version strings.02:59
pierre__hello i have intall unbunto since 5 minutes and it's the first time that i use linux02:59
ubuntuNothing specific02:59
pierre__a question please02:59
sparkalocongratulations pierre02:59
pierre__:-)02:59
_nullcafuego, ok02:59
cafuego!listkeys 85502:59
ubotuFactoid search of '855' by key returned no results.02:59
holycowtafsen, google to see if you can get linux 3d acceleration to work on it, but unless its an nvidia card/video chipset, forget it02:59
dawidwhat web browser do u recommend?02:59
cafuego!listvals 85502:59
ubotuFactoid search of '855' by value returned no results.02:59
cafuegoHmm.02:59
pierre__how can i install the support to read mp3 please ?02:59
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sparkaloFirefox of course : P02:59
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tim__what is the equivilent of xp's disk manager in linux?03:00
tim__im using ubuntu03:00
holycowdisk manager? what does that do?03:00
pierre__i search a consol to type a command but i don't find it03:00
navaronetim what are you trying to accomplish?03:00
tim__like fdisk03:00
pierre__?03:00
pierre__please03:00
cafuegotim__: try 'gparted'03:00
holycowwhat cafuego said03:00
tim__in terminal window?03:00
ubuntupierre: What are u trying to do?03:01
cafuegotim__: (or fdisk :-)03:01
Toma-i think ive got a serious gtk problem :/ it locks the system up hard (except the mouse) quite randomly... for instance, selecting more than 3 packages to remove with synaptic, and even starting nxclient...03:01
holycowtim you need to install it first03:01
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pierre__can someone help me ?03:01
holycowuse synaptic to install it, system/prefs03:01
holycowpierre__, just ask03:01
holycowoh sorry you did :)03:01
holycowhehe03:01
navaronetim__, gparted is like Partition Magic in windows...graphical interface for resizing/creating partitions and such03:01
ubuntupierre: I'm listening03:01
cafuegopierre__: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal03:01
bluefoxicymy damned ipod is too slow.03:02
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cafuegotim__: Also check System -> Administration -> Disks03:02
holycowcafuego, well after he installs it it will appear under applications/system actually03:02
pierre__thank you very much cafuego03:02
Toma-anyone know where gtk logs its errors?03:02
cafuegopierre__: No problem. Install 'nautilus-open-terminal' - then you have a 'terminal' option in the right-click menu everywhere.03:03
cafuegoToma-: stdout (~/.xsession-errors)03:03
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kameronToma-: did you check /var/logs ?03:03
Eleafwhat are some good internet radio stations?03:03
Eleafomg03:03
EleafSorry wrong place03:03
Eleaflol03:03
tafsenholycow, Check for the "drm" module in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. It should be in there, along with the other modules, at the top of the file.03:03
EleafHave a good day everybody!03:04
Eleaflol03:04
tafsenholycow, what does that mean?03:04
sparkalohey guys, in my /etc/interfaces/network thing, is the syntax "wireless_mode managed" or "wireless-mode managed"?03:04
cafuegosparkalo: both are fine03:04
cafuegoUse what you think looks nicer ;-)03:04
Toma-kameron: yeh. ive tried having /var/log/messages, dmesg, Xorg.log and top all running with tail -f on the desktop then recreating the error. cant get any feedback03:04
Toma->:/03:04
pierre__cafuego sorry just another question03:04
cafuegopierre__: go ahead03:05
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holycowtafsen, not sure why you are giving me xorg info, check your tab completion?03:05
pierre__i want to install some file to read mp303:05
cafuegothis channel is for asking questions, no need to ask if you can ask them.03:05
pierre__on doc ubuntu03:05
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cafuegopierre__: read or play?03:05
Toma-i get this... (synaptic:8378): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed03:05
pierre__i find sudo apt-get install k3b-mp303:05
Toma-when opening gtk apps....03:05
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pierre__play03:05
tim__ok i get fdisk, is there something a little easier to work with i plugged in a raid tower to a dpt scsi card, i dont know if the new drives are even detected03:06
cafuegopierre__: gstreamer0.8-mad (for the Gnome sound apps)03:06
sethkToma-, everyone gets that.  ignore it03:06
Toma-ok.03:06
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pierre__and how you install it ? i'm beginner03:06
kameronToma- geesh, that sucks.03:06
jadewolfkameron: what do I apt-get to setup nvidia again?03:06
cafuegopierre__: Probably just get gstreamer0.8-plugins and gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse.03:06
caseydoes anyone have wake on lan working with Ubuntu?03:06
Toma-time to recreate. ie,  crash the system. brb03:06
cafuegopierre__: System -> Administration -> Synaptic.03:06
kameronjadewolf: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx03:06
pierre__ok i test just minut03:07
cafuegopierre__: Then search for the package names, right click them... then click 'Apply'.03:07
caseyapt-cache search nvidia03:07
jadewolfkameron: thanks again man, its  installing now, just waiting for apt to finish that part and I'll put in the nvnida part03:07
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kameronjadewolf: cool. is X up?03:08
toko123I'd like to add mplayer03:08
phreak97PuMpErNiCkLe,  uninstalled, restarted gnome, reinstalled, all works03:08
cafuego!info mplayer03:08
toko123is their a miltiverse repository?03:08
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cafuegotoko123: multiverse, yes03:08
toko123!info mplayer03:08
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jadewolfkameron: no still installing right now03:09
toko123can someone please give me a repostory url03:09
holycowmiltiverse?03:09
kameronjadewolf: cool03:09
holycowhahaha!03:09
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kameron!tell toko123 about easysource03:09
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cafuegotoko123: Just add 'multiverse' at the end of an existing line in /etc/apt/sources.list03:09
holycow:)03:09
toko123easysource03:10
toko123?03:10
dawidhey um, so how is every1 today03:10
pierre__cafuego : ok i have install gstreamer after ?03:10
toko123I have synaptic repositories open03:11
cafuegopierre__: if you make sure gstreamer0.8-plugins and gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse are installed, you'll be fine.03:11
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kamerontoko123: it guides you in setting up /etc/apt/sources.list the "community" supported packages is multiverse and others03:11
cafuegotoko123: just add multiverse in to one of them then03:11
kameroncafeugo: how do you know if the mirrors he has are synched to a multiverse repo?03:12
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Eleaflol03:12
Eleafhi cafuego03:12
Eleaflol03:12
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cafuegokameron: Coz if he use sa nonnstandard mirror he'd have more issues.03:12
kameronvery true03:12
LetterRiphello all, is there a channel dedicated to Rosetta?03:12
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toko123thanks03:12
cafuegopierre__: Afterwards, use 'rhythmbox' to play MP#s.03:13
Toma-no luck. still not output to xsessionerrors03:13
cafuegoToma-: ~/.xsession-errors03:13
cafuegoNote the typography.03:13
Toma-err yes. i know.03:13
hou5tonis there a list of the things I need to install to play Quicktime video's off the web?03:14
Toma-note the slackness :)03:14
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MonsterCookiedoes anyone knows how to stop the (offical) flash plugin for firefox from grabbing exclusive use of /dev/dsp (even tho i have an audigy card with hardware mixing and i am using alsa not oss) ? I have tried all the stuff i can find in the forums to solve this.03:15
jadewolfbrb03:15
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Toma-MonsterCookie: tried loading the snd-oss module?03:15
holycowhouston, there are totem plugins that are supposed to play them, but they aren't ready this release and actually should be manually removed03:15
toko123mplayer 386 586.. which one tom use?03:16
holycowhouston, try synaptic and try installing some mplayer or vlc plugins for mozilla03:16
holycowtotem doesn't use mplayer at all toko03:16
_jasontoko123, read the description of 586.  If you can use it, use 58603:16
pierre__grrr not work03:16
toko123athlon 1,000 hz 256 mb matrox 32 mb03:16
kameronholycow, totem uses xine?03:16
pierre__i have install gstream03:16
holycowoh 'which one TO use' hahaha! *blink*03:17
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MonsterCookieToma-, i have tried the alsa-oss package, but i can't find one by that name03:17
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toko123nvidia drivwre03:17
pierre__but the exact name of the file that you give me is not in it03:17
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Bor_hello03:17
holycowkameron, either xine or gstreamer.  xine backend generally works better for now03:17
Eleaftoko123, is that your dream machine?03:17
pierre__cafuego ?03:17
Toma-MonsterCookie: i couldnt find the module i was thinking of just then either...03:17
tim__can anyone recommend a good place to go for people just starting out with linux? i ma trying to set up a file server on my home network and i am so lost i dont even know the right questions to ask or where to begin03:17
kameronholycow, okay.03:17
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_jasontim__, help.ubuntu.com, wiki.ubuntu.com, ubuntuforums.org03:18
tim__thanks jason03:18
nickrudtim__, tldp.org as well03:18
holycowtim__, well the right thing often to do is to shut it off and sleep on it.  newbs are usually overwhelmed by the options it helps to let the mind move the info from short term to long term memory03:18
holycow:) in addition to suggestions above of course03:18
adtheratHey, first, I like to say hey to everyone ^^;03:18
MonsterCookiewas it the one i said, or some other one you were thinking of Toma- ? this problem is *really* annoying me :-( I'm not exactly a newbie or bad at searching, but the answer evades me03:18
holycowits funny how things start to makes sense all of a sudden where once you were looking at a forest of infinite possibility03:19
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pierre__cafuego ? please ?03:19
tim__that is probobly a good idea the last 10 times i tried linux i just got so frustrated i reformatted went back to windows03:19
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tafsenanyone here that can help me with xorg.conf ?03:19
pierre__someone to help a beginner to install mp3 codec on ubuntu pleaseeee ?03:19
toko123Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-22  but it is not installable03:20
toko123 Depends: libggi2 (>=1:2.0.5) but it is not installable03:20
toko123 Depends: xmms (>=1.2.10+cvs20050209) but it is not installable03:20
holycowtim__, the other thing people forget is that they have 15 years or more of training on windows, you can't replace 15 years of training with 10 days of trying03:20
toko123wtf03:20
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HilBillyhow can I install mplayer using synaptic in ubuntu?03:20
holycowtafsen, pretty much all your questions can be answered in the wiki.ubuntu.com ... most people have similar questions to yours and usually they also have found a solution / explanation that makes sense to noobs03:20
toko123trying to intall mplayer03:20
pierre__someone ?03:20
holycowHilBilly, search for mplayer, select it, install it?03:20
mr-russwhere can I ask development question/bug question? here?03:20
HilBillyI search, get no results03:21
pierre__holycow can you help me ?03:21
tim__great point holycow im sure my problem is a bit of ego too, i have always been able to do whatever i needed to do and this is a lot more work03:21
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holycowpierre__, go to ubuntu.com search for restricted formats.  go to that page and in tehre you will find info on how to install w32codecs03:21
holycowmp3 support is in w32codecs ... that should be all you need03:21
tim__if that makes any sense03:21
adtheratsecondly, during updating, it says that there's a new release of Ubuntu available, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ for upgrade instructions, but after looking for a bit, I could not find anything for upgrading, just getting a CD image. Mind if anyone could tell where to look at for upgrade instructions or how to upgrade Ubuntu?03:22
Kindred!w32codecs03:22
ubotuhmm... w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install03:22
jediany x86_64 users get good multimedia support?03:22
pierre__ok tanks03:22
holycowtim__, also make sure you uninstall totem-gstreamer and install totem-xine just to be sure03:22
holycowerrr.... last point was for whoever was asking for mp3 info03:22
holycowsorry tim__03:22
toko123holy_cow, I try to intall mplaer but the dependendcies are unavailabel?03:22
tafsenUnder Section "Module" In xorg.conf, I need to add Load "drm" to get the drm to load?03:22
toko123Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-22  but it is not installable03:22
toko123 Depends: libggi2 (>=1:2.0.5) but it is not installable03:22
toko123 Depends: xmms (>=1.2.10+cvs20050209) but it is not installable03:22
Kindredadtherat, what release do you have?03:23
holycowtoko123, are you running ubuntu breezy?03:23
Toma-toko123: what are u installing?03:23
toko123running 5.1003:23
MonsterCookieholy_cow, i believe you're right and that the w32codecs only work with totem-xine and not totem-gstreamer03:23
toko123kubuntu03:23
tim__you have been great i appreciate the help, hopefully next time i come back i will know the right questions to ask03:23
adtheratKindred, I'm running breezy, yes03:23
holycowMonsterCookie, just an fyi, totem-gstreamer has an mp3 plugin all its own, but i don't use it so don't know03:23
damien_ok, someone please tell me why there's about 13 000 packages missing when i run synaptic?03:23
holycowdamien_, because by default ubuntu only supports 2000 or so03:24
adtheratKindred, I'm running breezy, I think, let me double check :P03:24
holycowdamien_, enable the other repos to get the unsupported packages03:24
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MonsterCookiei know that, holy_cow ;) i use it03:24
damien_oh crap...03:24
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Kindredadtherat, yeah the next release is still in development, you likely wouldn't want that03:24
Eleafdamien_, what?03:24
holycowMonsterCookie, sorry :) appologies03:24
damien_i should've known03:24
tafsenholycow: I didn't find anything, som maybee you can answer if it's Under Section "Module" In xorg.conf, I need to add Load "drm" to get the drm to load?03:24
adtheratKindred, 5.04, I'm running03:24
damien_holy_cow, i forgot about universe :P03:24
Carlok, I have a fat32 partition and I want to read/rite in linux as well as windows, windows recognizes it fine, linux it sees it and displays it as sd1, when I click on it it comes up with "the folder contents could not be displayed, you do not have the permissions necessary to vew the contents of "sda1" "03:24
Eleafdamien_, what?  why are you so 'sad'?03:24
MonsterCookiei use gstreamer/totem and i have mplayer so's to have the best of both worlds. no probs, holy_cow, you weren't to know :P03:24
toko123Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-22  but it is not installable03:24
holycowtafsen, i forgot what you are trying to solve here sorry ... what are you doing again?03:25
toko123?03:25
ubuntuboogerahh i am rtying to get my buddy hooked up with breezy and the install goes fine but then i get a error 25 on the grub loader03:25
ubuntuboogerSeveas, please help me03:25
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Kindredadtherat, ah okay that's hoary - you'll probably want to upgrade then - have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade03:25
tafsenholycow: Im trying to fix my 3d acc, And I found out that the drm module isn't loaded and that could be an problem. So Im trying to load it :)03:26
Dreamglidersudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade03:26
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adtheratah thanks. Aye. Yeah, got the names mixed up. ^^; Dis-lex-tica does that to you03:26
Dreamglideradtherat,03:26
deangCarl:  http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files03:26
holycowtafsen, you need to know what video card you are running, and then google the support info.  unless you are running nvidia i have no clue i never buy hardware without nvidia cards if i want 3d acceleration03:27
ubuntuboogererror 25.... bueler bueller03:27
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holycowtafsen, otherwise i settle for plain 2d acceleration using whatever drivers are available03:27
holycowtafsen, in otherwords, i don't know how to setup your card, sorry03:27
KindredDreamglider, don't just say that, they'll end up with a half completed dapper..03:27
CarlI've been there but I don't know what 2 do with the discmounter program03:27
dawidwhy when i set the permissions of a folder doesnt it set the same for those under it?03:27
tafsenholycow: I have googled and found out that I need to load the drm03:27
Dreamglidersorry03:27
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sethkdawid, why would it?03:28
holycowtafsen, not sure what a drm module is ... :/ sorry, try the wiki maybe.  the nvidia install doesn't require me to know much :)03:28
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perrygeoanyone tried automatix on Dapper?03:29
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CookieNinjano. what does it do, perrygeo ?03:29
holycowtafsen, as a guess it ought to be under section 'module' add load 'drm' and restart x server03:29
guest666has anyone else seen this issue at the top of this post http://www.eggheads.org/pipermail/eggheads/2005-June/012086.html ?03:29
dawidwell how can i imply it to do that?03:30
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perrygeoCookieNinja: installs all sorts of "extras" on top of breezy.. java, flash, codecs, etc03:30
Carlok, I have a fat32 partition and I want to read/rite in linux as well as windows, windows recognizes it fine, linux it sees it and displays it as sd1, when I click on it it comes up with "the folder contents could not be displayed, you do not have the permissions necessary to vew the contents of "sda1" " everybody keeps pointing me to "diskmounter" I've found this file but do not know how 2 use it, please help03:30
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CookieNinjaahh, rings a bell, perrygeo. i've heard of it. i thought it was for versions earlier than dapper03:30
holycowCarl, you have that drive in a usb cradle?03:30
_jasonCarl, use the umask=000 option03:31
Carlnope03:31
holycowCarl, its on the ide chain?03:31
_jasonCarl, umask=0000, four zeros i think03:31
Carljust a regular hd03:31
perrygeoCookieNinja: yep. that's why I wanted to ask before I tried it on dapper ;-)03:31
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holycowCarl, sda1 doesn't sound right, it should be more like hda103:31
Carlwhat is that - umask03:31
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CookieNinjabe a brave man, perrygeo, and try it03:31
CodenameKThold on guys03:31
Carl???03:31
Carlhmm03:31
CookieNinjathen you can tell everyone else, perrygeo03:31
nickrudperrygeo, you should read the script first, see what it does03:31
guest666hi,03:31
guest666I also have an eggdrop on an ubuntu pc but it doesnt either start03:31
guest666without the -nt switches and i dont even use X... So i believe that the03:31
guest666problem is at the ubuntu configuration itself... Have you seen an03:31
guest666eggdrop working at Ubuntu distro?03:31
CodenameKTCarl: wait a second...is ur hard drive a scsi?03:31
Carlwhat is sda?03:31
dawidsethk : Well how can i recursively set permissions?03:31
guest666im getting the same shit on my install, lol03:31
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_jasonCarl, do you understand chmod permissions?03:32
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boxyI have a problem:  When i try to boot the Ubuntu DVD ISO, it boots and everything but when it trys to detect and mount my dvd drive i get "Can not mount installation cd"03:32
perrygeonickrud: fairly simple.. just alot of apt-gets for the most part03:32
holycowCarl, usually a usb device shows up as sda1 or 2 or 3 or whatever .. depends03:32
sethkdawid, use the -R flag to chmod03:32
CodenameKTCarl: nm ur hard drive is scsi instead of normal ide that is why it is under sda1 or an sda03:32
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perrygeohere goes nothing...03:32
George__hey guys03:32
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CookieNinjamy understanding of what's involved, perrygeo, would lead me to believe that it will probably be fine03:32
tuvok302has anyone managed to get the Intel536EP driver to work? it keeps saying i need to install the kernel source03:32
pinShow do i update "linux-image-386"03:32
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CarlI have one drive that is scsi but not the one with that peticular partition I want to get at on03:32
holycowCarl, do fdisk -l, that should show you all your partitions on your ide chains03:32
CookieNinjabut i am guessing, perrygeo03:32
pinS??03:32
nickrudperrygeo, then do them yourself, trust no one :)03:32
CodenameKTCarl: in order to mount it properly go to /etc/fstab and find the line that is mounting it03:32
Dreamgliderwhat's the latest ubuntu release ?03:32
George__I got a annyong problem, and It is making me feel like saying the f word :P, My wireless connection is detected in Ubuntu but not wokring. It's a IBM R40 Laptop03:32
holycowwhat CodenameKT said03:33
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phreak97can some help me out? double clicking a link in xchat doesnt open it03:33
dawidsethk : well i was using nautilus, is there a way to do it in nautilus03:33
George__How i get ubuntu to do dhcp?03:33
CarlI'm confused can someone help me in a pm?03:33
sethkdawid, I have no idea, I wouldn't dream of trying to do it that way03:33
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holycowphreak97, chances are its stuck, your supposed to only single click on icons in the panel03:33
dawidhehe03:33
George__I have not used Ubuntu before, there's no dhcpcd or something. There is ifconfig03:33
George__iwconfig03:33
CodenameKTCarl: i can't pm but i did this on my comp so i most likely can assist u03:33
dawidokay no its cool its not a big deal anyways...03:33
ron_hello all03:33
George__helpp me thanks!03:33
boxyI have a problem:  When i try to boot the Ubuntu DVD ISO, it boots and everything but when it trys to detect and mount my dvd drive i get "Can not mount installation cd"03:33
holycowphreak97, try adding a system monitor applet to your panel, you can then click on that to check for duplicate/stuck processes and kill them visually03:34
George__boxy: how fast u burn isO?03:34
perrygeoAutomatix on Dapper.. the script is smart enough to detect the version and won't run.. damn03:34
CodenameKTCarl: i promise i wont give u a bunch of half ansers but let us hurry. go to into your /etc/fstab03:34
boxyits not a problem with the DVD i've already tryed03:34
George__Oo :P really...03:34
Carlok03:34
phreak97holy_cow,  XCHAT03:34
ron_anyone know how to get fglrx working in hoary?03:34
phreak97the irc client03:34
George__WiRELESs and linux, what the *@#821303:34
phreak97if i type www.google.com and double click it, nothing happens03:35
George__XCHAT simple and easy03:35
holycowphreak97, what? is that some type of rendom response to my help suggestion?03:35
sipiorGeorge__: are you looking for dhclient?03:35
boxyGeorge__, I also already tryed pci=noacpi and noapic noalapic03:35
George__Sipior No!03:35
George__man03:35
Carlok I found fstab03:35
George__UMM let me tell u03:35
phreak97holy_cow, sounded like you thought i just said x03:35
George__I got everything set up03:35
deangCarl: Same here.      I saved 'diskmounter' as '~/diskmounter.sh', found it in Nautalis, checked properties and gave it Executable persmissions.   Then went to Terminal, ran 'sudo ~/diskmounter.sh' and all went well.03:35
CodenameKTCarl: did u open it up with some text editor?03:35
sipiorGeorge__: Okay!03:35
George__wireless working and stuff but ubuntu won't get me connected to the thing03:35
holycowphreak97, read my suggestion again *nod*03:35
George__It is found,03:35
George__i tried iwconfig and it there03:35
Carlya03:36
George__no WEP ETC03:36
CarlI opened it with gedit03:36
phreak97holy_cow,  panel = text area?03:36
CodenameKTCarl: do u see the line refering to ur fat32 partition?03:36
George__I RESET THE ROUTER, and set everything up agian! So what ya think I should try??03:36
phreak97neither ever worked03:36
Carlya03:36
holycowphreak97, nope, panels are the things at the top and bottom that hold all the icons and menues03:36
phreak97single click does nothing03:36
sipiorGeorge__: how did you invoke iwconfig?03:36
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phreak97thats what i thought03:36
Carlit says vfat03:36
dawidso has any1 gotten steam to work with wine/03:36
phreak97i do only single click those03:36
holycowphreak97, most likely xchat is stuck with duplicate processes03:36
CookieNinjacan you ping outside world ip addresses via the wireless card, George__ ?03:36
CarlI mounted it as /osfileshare when I partition it and I see it there03:36
phreak97i never double click them03:37
George__no that's the problem03:37
holycowright click on your top panel and add system monitor applet03:37
George__RIGHT there03:37
CodenameKTCarl: can u paste what u have under the options to this chan real quick?03:37
phreak97and links have never worked ever03:37
George__I DO not 1 get a IP,03:37
phreak97from the day i installed03:37
sorush20why do I keep getting this error?03:37
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George__I set it to dhcp03:37
Carl/dev/hda6       /OSFILESHARE    vfat    defaults03:37
holycowphreak97, once you have a system monitor applet you can bring up the system process list that can show you if you have duplicate/stuck processes03:37
phreak97they underline when i hover over them03:37
Carl# /etc/fstab: static file system information.03:37
Carl#03:37
Carl# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>03:37
Carlproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       003:37
Carl/dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       103:37
Carl/dev/hda6       /OSFILESHARE    vfat    defaults        0       003:37
CodenameKTCarl: users, owner,rw,umask00003:37
Carl/dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults        0       003:37
Carl/dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       003:37
CodenameKTno no no03:37
Carl/dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       003:37
CodenameKTstop!03:37
Carl/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       003:37
CodenameKTstop03:37
CookieNinjayou don't get an ip George__ ? then it's not connecting the wireless access point03:37
CodenameKTi said just options03:37
CodenameKTnot everything in file03:38
CodenameKTcrap03:38
Carlok03:38
Carl???03:38
CookieNinjaor dhcp isn't working ... but i would go with the 1st guess03:38
phreak97holy_cow,  im aware, im looking at it now, and theres only one xchat03:38
phreak97it isnt stuck03:38
kameron!tell carl about paste03:38
phreak97i can end it and restarty as much as i like and it wont help me03:38
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holycowphreak97, xchat just wont start?03:38
holycowphreak97, the only other thing i can suggest is trying to reinstall it03:38
holycow;/03:38
phreak97holycow, itll start, im in it03:39
phreak97using it03:39
CodenameKTCarlFK: instead of defaults on that line that refers to vfat put what i wrote above and then umount /OSFILESHARE and then mount /OSFILESHARE03:39
George__what Ur GUESS COOKIE?03:39
ubuntuboogerSeveas, please help me03:39
holycowphreak97, ? whats the problem then?03:39
sipiorGeorge__: have you confirmed that the router is providing IP addresses to other machines properly?03:39
ubuntuboogerahh i am rtying to get my buddy hooked up with breezy and the install goes fine but then i get a error 25 on the grub loader03:39
phreak97my problem is that web links dont launch firefox03:39
CookieNinjayou set the password right George__ ? if you think you have & can reach the access point to read the logs .. see if it can be seen trying to connect in the logs (i'm hoping it logs this info)03:39
George__lOL03:39
George__I GOT 6 COMPUTERS03:39
George__3 of LAPTOP03:39
George__ALL GETTING IP THIS IS WHY I AM FRUSTRATED03:39
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George__my IBM Z60m works fine03:39
sipiorGeorge__: does one of them have a functional caps lock key?03:39
phreak97holycow, thats my problem.. i just didnt put your name in front to highlight for you03:39
George__Umm,,, this thing has sticky keys03:39
dawidhow can i setup my keyboard shortcuts?03:40
George__anyway what u THINK i try?03:40
George__Duh03:40
George__it's in System03:40
CodenameKTjohndarkhorse: why u go off and do that?03:40
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George__preferneces orr whatt the heck03:40
dawidi know the keyboard works cause the volume +/- works but next track and pause dont work03:40
phreak97holycow,  also clicking a nick on the left does nothing03:40
George__and keyboard shortcuts03:40
holycowphreak97, can't help you with an xchat specific question, there are probably xchat channels around or something sorry, don't knkow it well enough03:40
George__so03:40
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phreak97ok03:40
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phreak97what do you use?03:40
George__SYSTEM- PREFERNCES = KEYBOARD SHORTCUTS03:40
George__there u go :P03:40
phreak97holycow, what do you use?03:40
holycowphreak97, well left isn't supposed to do anything, right gives you user info03:40
holycowphreak97, xchat03:40
George__Ideas on how to get my wireless working??03:41
phreak97if i type www.google.com and you click it, does it open?03:41
sipiorGeorge__: have you specified the essid correctly?03:41
holycowphreak97, you don't double click on the link03:41
George__essid? meaning my router thing yeah?03:41
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sipiorGeorge__: yep03:41
George__yes I did03:41
holycowyou right click and select open in .... whatever options it gives you03:41
George__linksys03:41
CodenameKTCarlFK: instead of defaults on that line that refers to vfat put what i wrote above and then umount /OSFILESHARE and then mount /OSFILESHARE03:41
phreak97holycow,  if you single click?03:41
Carli'm back03:41
holycowphreak97, single right click03:41
phreak97oh, so you have to choose open in web browser?03:42
holycowdo we need to smack you for not thinking to right click dude?03:42
holycowc'mon :)03:42
CodenameKTCarl: users, owner,rw,umask000 thats what u need for options03:42
CookieNinjahas it got a wired connection too, George__ or just a wireless one ?03:42
holycowphreak97, what do you think? yes of course :)03:42
phreak97im making a transition from sysreset (mirc) so im still getting used to things03:42
sipiorGeorge__: no, try something like "iwlist eth1 scanning", replacing eth1 with the appropriate device03:42
holycowphreak97, its okay, but remember there is usually 2 buttons on a mouse :) hehehe03:42
Carlso enter that instead off "defaults"?03:42
CodenameKTCarl: oops it's umask=00003:42
George__ummmm I changed the name to thissucks, and put that as the essid, and now it doing something03:42
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CodenameKTCarl: yes03:42
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George__bah the Network Settings doing something now03:43
CodenameKTCarl: and then umount and mount again and it will let u read write03:43
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holycowphreak97, note i was kidding :)03:43
George__nope still getting nothing03:43
fangoriousanyone having trouble with hitting the sleep/suspend button going into suspend instead of hibernate (as specified in /etc/acpi/events/sleepbtn, and every power management I've tried in gnome and kde)03:43
sipiorGeorge__: what's the name of the interface? eth0? eth1?03:44
George__When I click COnnection Properties I dont see ETH0, or eth103:44
George__wHY the heck is this?03:44
dawidokay so i set the shortcuts at system->prefs->kb shortcuts now how can i get xmms to play along?03:44
CarlI can't seem 2 edit fstab03:44
George__it's eth003:44
CodenameKTmake sure u r root first03:44
CodenameKTsudo gedt /etc/fstab03:44
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sipiorGeorge__: then try "iwconfig eth0 essid thissucks"03:44
CodenameKTCarl: gedit rather03:44
CarlI'm a reall noob getting a little confused03:44
George__ETH0 = WIreless, ETH1 = RJ45, PPP0 = Modem03:44
George__k03:44
CookieNinjaheh, George__ your essid reminded me of the name of mine, which is arsewipe .. because it was a pig to setup due to me not checking what channels everyone else around me used :s03:45
CarlI"m in gedit03:45
George__failed03:45
ubuntuboogerGeorge__, could you message me ubuntubooger03:45
George__operation not permitted03:45
phreak97holycow,  lol03:45
sipiorneed to be root, try sudo03:45
George__cant message u03:45
CodenameKTCarl: close gedit and open a terminal in terminal type sudo gedit /etc/fstab03:45
phreak97its just easier to avoid menus if possible03:45
George__I anit regerstrered03:45
phreak97things go quicker03:45
holycowhey guys ... instead of getting the dude to do the wierless stuff in the text file ...03:45
Carlok03:45
holycowwhy don't you get them touse wifi-radar?03:45
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cafuegoCookieNinja: That's what 500mW transmitters are for :-P03:45
holycowits a great gui for selecting and easily setting wireless settings03:45
holycowits a one click wonder03:45
George__um Dude I got no freaken internet03:46
CodenameKTholycow: how much are they paying u?03:46
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George__exect on the other ibm thinkpad03:46
ClayGanyone here know how to change the MAC on a cable modem?03:46
CookieNinjacafuego, explain ? what are they and can one attach to any wifi card ?03:46
George__lol fook, u can do that?03:46
holycowCodenameKT, :) enough to know i shouldn't haveto lif a finger :)03:46
CodenameKTClayG: hahahaa u can't03:46
nickrudholy_cow shills for naught :)03:46
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ubuntuboogersomeone message me i am showing my freind what will happen when he gets messaged03:46
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George__I cant help03:46
ubuntuboogerplease03:46
holycowubuntu__, msg your self03:47
holycow*sheesh*03:47
George__lol03:47
holycow:)03:47
cafuegoCookieNinja: No, they're high power access points. Mind you, high power wifi cards are able to be had, too. Probably up to 200mW03:47
Carlok what do I enter in there again?03:47
George__Hey, Who has any ideas what 2 do??03:47
CodenameKTCarl: enter in what?03:47
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CodenameKTCarl: fstab?03:47
Carlin options03:47
Carlinstead of "defaults"03:47
dawidnight03:47
CodenameKTCarl: users,owner,rw,umask=00003:47
sipiorGeorge__: what was the result of running that command under sudo?03:48
Carlok entered, what now?03:48
CookieNinjacafuego, i read that 500mw transmitters create a range of upto 20km ... aint that overkill in a wee house in london lol03:48
George__I Dont have NO SECURITY SET<>IT WONT CONNECT<> WHY?03:48
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CodenameKTCarl: save and then open a terminal03:48
George__how do i kick myself?03:48
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Carlok03:48
CodenameKTCarl: in terminal do umount /osfileshare or whatever u r calling it and then mount /osfileshare03:49
sipiorGeorge__: were you responding to my question?03:49
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George__yea03:49
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CodenameKToh do those commands as root again:o)03:49
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George__Still the B and S word03:49
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George__ok03:49
George__THIS THE PROBLEM?03:49
CookieNinjaGeorge__, does the router even see the card trying to connect ? does iwconfig show that it is connected to the router or not connected to it ?03:49
CodenameKTCarl: i forgot do the sudo umount /usfileshare and sudo mount03:49
George__DURING SETup I didn't install dhcp on it?03:49
cafuegoCookieNinja: maybe up to 20KM from the top of a mountain to the next mountain, certainly not in a city. Even 200mW only gets you a 50m radius of decent reception if there's not too many buildings in the way.03:49
Carlit says that it isn't mounted03:49
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CodenameKTCarl: ok then mount it03:50
ubuntuboogerhey how do i get to the cli with the install  cd?03:50
George__It shows me sH*** and I dont know how 2 read it03:50
Carlit says it can't find it03:50
sipiorGeorge__: when you try "sudo iwconfig eth0 essid thissucks", nothing happens?03:50
CodenameKTCarl: can't find directory?03:50
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Carlit says that it cant find it itn fstab or mtab03:51
CookieNinjado you know whether the access point should be announcing itself, George__ ? i have a linksys one that by default doesn't do so03:51
Dreamgliderwhen will Dapper Drake be released ?03:51
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fangoriousDreamglider: April03:51
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Ainvarevening all03:51
fangoriousany acpi gurus present?03:52
Carlok, I think I just found it03:52
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Dreamglidergood morning Ainvar03:52
CodenameKTCarl: thnx I didn't want to get angry03:52
iratsuwhere can i get a vlc 0.8.4a package for ubuntu?03:52
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cafuego!dapper03:52
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.03:52
Ainvarmorning to you Dreamglider03:52
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Ainvarhehe 8 days before my birthday03:53
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CodenameKTCarl: now try to save a simple txt file to dir and see if it lets u03:53
Mabus06At who's risk do we use dapper after April 20th?03:53
cafuegoMabus06: 'whose'03:53
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holycow*cough*03:54
holycow:)03:54
Carlaccess denied03:54
CarlI can see it now though03:54
CookieNinjawhen's dapper due for official release, anyway ?03:54
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Mabus06APril 20th03:54
Dreamglideriratsu,  http://www.videolan.org/vlc/03:54
holycowrofl!03:54
holycow:)03:54
cafuegoholycow: They won't learn if you don't teach them.03:54
iratsuDreamglider: yea i checked there already03:55
fangoriouswhat's dapper ? ....03:55
holycowcafuego, i don't disagree :)03:55
CookieNinjathe next version of ubuntu, fangorious03:55
cafuego!dict dapper03:55
ubotuDictionary 'dapper' marked by smartness in dress and manners; "a dapper young man"; "a jaunty red hat"03:55
George__back03:55
CarlI can't save03:55
CodenameKTCarl: open terminal and do ls -l in / and tell me if the directory /osfileshare whatever is root:root or user:root or what03:55
George__hey  SIPIOR03:55
fangoriousCookieNinja: I was joking ;) after repeat questions about the release date03:55
George__YEAH THATS RIGHT03:55
CookieNinjao03:55
George__I got some annoying kids over,03:56
sipiorGeorge__: is there a problem?03:56
cafuegoGeorge__: Tell them to not use caps.03:56
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CarlI don't see anything that says osfileshare03:56
George__yeah03:56
George__there's a problem03:57
Carljust some recently used files03:57
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George__I got a f'ing annoying notebook refusing to connect, a bunch of kids buggging me, and my dog barking03:57
CookieNinjableh03:57
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George__plus my other f'ing notebook (IBM Z60m) works fine03:57
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NogimicsAnyone use bittornado on ubuntu?03:57
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CookieNinjano Nogimics, i stick with the built in client03:58
NogimicsCan the built in client be used from the command line?03:58
George__what WHAT 2 DO 2 Get THIS NETWORK going!03:58
George__EVEN SHOVING INTO THE notebook wont work, I think DHCP isn't enabled in the computer03:58
nickrudGeorge__, not to jump in or anything, but your z60m works just 'out of the box'? (looking for some decent coattails)03:58
holycowNogimics, used to until breezy came with gtk torrent or whatnot03:58
fangoriouswell that's just mean03:58
George__LOL yeah!03:58
George__GENTOO THOUGH03:58
CookieNinjatried a static ip, George__ ?03:58
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sipiorGeorge__: do you generally find that acting like a needy twat encourages people to help you much?03:59
Carlo, i typed it in wrong, it is root03:59
George__Na03:59
sipiorGeorge__: good luck with yiyr problem03:59
George__Yeah Thanks03:59
George__Pain in the *@#821303:59
George__u KNOW what i dont understand?03:59
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George__even my eth1 which is the lan connection doesn't even give me a dhcp thing, so how do I enable DHCP in terminal?03:59
sipiorthis will take a while04:00
ClayGare usb device auytomatically mounted ?04:00
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George__lol sipior a while? more like 3 Hours +04:00
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Ainvarholy smokes04:00
George__u gonna help04:00
George__cuz  I am angry04:00
CookieNinjathey *should* be, ClayG. what usb device you goy ?04:00
CookieNinjagot04:00
ClayGcable modem04:00
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CookieNinjao04:00
AinvarI feel cheated04:00
George__dont need someone bit'in me04:00
George__I FEEL CHEATED 204:00
fangoriousClayG: just curious, do you not have an ethernet card?04:01
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CookieNinjapass on that, ClayG. can't you get one with an ethernet port ?04:01
inc|freakyhi all, im trying to boot from the kubuntu live CD, but it hangs when trying to start the hotplug subsystem - how can i fix that?04:01
Ainvaron my dell i6000 with an ati card compared to the m70 with the nvidia card is on opposite ends of the scale04:01
nickrudGeorge__, angry at who? I mean, who could have possibly cheated you?04:01
Toma-George__: get your money back :D04:01
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Angel-SLhi04:01
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George__what!?04:01
George__THIS NOTEbook is like 3 years old04:01
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George__R40 IBM Thinkpad04:01
KrhisHi Angel-SL.04:01
George__LOL04:01
Toma-George__: nevermind, its an open-source joke.04:02
George__I FOUND OUT04:02
George__WHY THE FU@04:02
George__OMGOSH04:02
George__STUPID GUI04:02
George__DHCP WAS NOT INSTALLED04:02
Angel-SLhow do i add a shortcut in the terminal. eg. how do i add gcc as a shortcut to gcc-3.404:02
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CookieNinjagiggles @ George__04:02
Toma-George__: lose the caps, and keep it all in 1 line or you'll get kicked/banned04:02
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KrhisYou're leaning on the shift key...04:02
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CookieNinjabe thankful the solution is probably simple, George__04:02
Angel-SLKrhis: hello?04:03
George__lol Toma>! I figured out04:03
geoffrianHello my fellow Ubuntu buddies.04:03
bshumateAngel-SL: use an alias in ~/.bashrc like alias gcc=gcc-3.404:03
KrhisYes, Angel-SL?04:03
George__BE HAPPY BUDDY!04:03
Angel-SLKrhis: bshumate got my answer.04:03
KrhisYea, I know. ^^04:03
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CookieNinjaToma-, you remember me asking about my flash problem ? any ideas ?04:04
CookieNinjai was called monstercookie earlier, Toma-04:04
lostblurhttp://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28635  wow.. *I* am a newbie to linux and i was able to overcome the problems he decsribed in less than an hour of reading ubuntu forum and asking here... so sad that someone in a position to write a well exposed article can completely and unjustly bash such an amazing product04:04
Toma-CookieNinja: yeh, theres a module that sort of links oss apps (firefox) to alsa. thats what you need :/04:04
jaroThis is more network related problem but I suppose someone could help me with it. I've computer with public ip and another behind the nat running ftp server. I forwarded ftp ports to my ftp server and I can connect it but data connection fails to initiate. I suppose this is because ftp tries to initate connection from within the private network - unsuccesfully though. I'd like to know if there is any way how I can enable the opposite direction of forward (like:04:04
jaro send all packets originating from... from what? ... via eth0)04:04
Toma-CookieNinja: but i cant remember the name! :(04:05
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lostblurthat guy with all his claimed background could get it down. kinda pathetic04:05
CookieNinjaaoss Toma- ? because i tried that04:05
Toma-nah, its a module, not an app04:05
CookieNinjaa kernel module or an alsa module, Toma- ?04:06
Toma-kernel04:06
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Toma-gimme asec ill do a find04:06
nickrudlostblur, I haven't read that article, but I can almost certainly tell you his point: it didn't work when he turned it on. A problem with free software, currently04:06
Toma-CookieNinja: try to load 'snd-pcm-oss'04:06
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Toma-with modprobe04:07
nickruds/with/for/04:07
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Toma-its probably not it, but it might be :/04:07
CookieNinjatrying now, Toma-04:07
mikemHey04:07
Angel-SLthis is great.04:08
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Angel-SLUnrealIRCD doesnt detect gcc.3.404:08
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puffHow do I disable my screensaver?04:08
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Toma-i bet it doesnt work :/04:08
Angel-SLHow do i revert to gcc304:08
mikemI was knowing if you knew if it was posible to get a NetGear Wireless addapter to work04:08
mikemwith ubuntu04:08
Madpilotpuff: probably somewhere in System menu --> Prefs --> Screensaver04:08
Toma-Angel-SL: compiling from source?04:08
JaredDoes anyone know what repository that the spca5xx webcam driver is on. i just did a fresh install and i can't find it04:08
mikemwondering04:08
mikemrather04:08
Angel-SLToma-: yes04:09
chet--hello all, i had wpa2 working with ipw220 on 2.6.12-9, now i upgraded to 2.6.12-10 and eth1 is completely gone.  any ideas?04:09
Angel-SLToma-: it wont work with gcc404:09
Toma-Angel-SL: 'export CC=gcc-3.4', before configure04:09
nickrudpuff, probably system->pref->screensaver04:09
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Madpilotnickrud: look about a dozen lines up :P04:09
Toma-Jared: its best to use the source from the website. spca5xx locks up my system hard.04:09
CookieNinjadoesn't work, Toma- :-(04:09
nickrudI kicked myself 6 lines back ;)04:10
Toma-CookieNinja: damnit. have you got dmix working?04:10
George__o my it isn't working04:10
CookieNinjai forgot to check if it was already loaded, too, Toma-04:10
Jaredit dosen't in mine it worked fine with min plus i'm not good at compiling and stuff like that so do you know which it is.04:10
Toma-i know u have HW mixing, but oss isnt a friend of mixing04:10
lostblurnick: nah hes a pc geek like the rest of us, or atleast claism to be with he mention of past experience with other linux and sun OS's. one of his complains is that he couldnt download some componenets from synaptics. without bothering to look into multiverse/universe issue.04:10
CookieNinjadunno Toma- as >1 play together already thanks to hardware mixing on my audigy204:10
George__what should I DO?04:10
Angel-SLToma-: great!04:10
bshumateAngel-SL: you need to set the CC environment variable, using this command : export CC=gcc-3.404:10
Jaredbecause i am a webcam freak and i got a real nice creative instant cam and i can't use it without that and before i did a fresh install i had it04:11
mikemI will reitterate since noone appears to have seen the last time, Is it posible to get a NetGear wireless addapter to work with ubuntu04:11
CookieNinja>1 apps play together, i meant, Toma- ... it's only flash giving me grief04:11
Toma-CookieNinja: not 2 oss apps i bet04:11
George__My wireless inst working04:11
lostblurhis rant is equivalent of installing windows on a box that winxp doenst have all the drievs on the CD for, and then trying to do a windows update without installing a MS validation utility..04:11
JaredToma- could you tell me which repository it is in??04:11
George__LoL04:11
Jaredcause i cna't find it at all04:11
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George__I know how 2 bypass04:11
Toma-Jared: ...04:11
Toma-!info spca5xx04:11
Toma-damn bot04:11
mikemDoes anyone even see what I am typing04:11
holycowmikem, depends on the netgear adapter ... what model is it? what chipset is it using? google it and you will soon see if its supported under linux04:11
George__Download lovely firefox04:11
Jaredand i can't find the lime wire package04:11
CookieNinjai dunno two oss apps to try together, Toma- .... atm i am trying audacity & flash .. or flash and soundrecorder04:11
Toma-Jared: the drivers come with the kernel04:11
Jareddo you know what it is under?04:12
George__Could anybody give me a good wireless utility?04:12
mikemWG11104:12
holycowmikem,  additionally, if its supported, but ubuntu doesnt have the driver already, one should be able to google instructions on how to build support for it04:12
Toma-audacity will be using alsa, flash will be using oss :|04:12
Jaredyou mean it is already installed Toma-?04:12
CookieNinjado i still need dmix for playing two oss apps, then, Toma- ?04:12
holycowmikem, what? you expect me to look it up for you?04:12
holycowmikem, hahahaha!04:12
Toma-Jared: yep04:12
holycow:) really thats rich04:12
Toma-CookieNinja: oss, i am unsure of.04:12
puffMadpilot, nickrud:  I checked there first, I don't see anything labeled "Disable screensaver" or the like.  I see "blank after nn minutes" and "cycle after nn minutes" (cycle to a different screen saver image).04:12
George__WHat software can i use other than iwconfig?04:12
Toma-id say you need to use aoss, but thats a long shot.04:12
Jaredwhat is it under in my system cause i need to make it work right ......hm04:12
gwarkhiyas :)   is it possible to use wget to grab a series of webpages ?04:12
mikemWell, I tried looking for drivers for it, but the only ones I could find were front ends to the windows drivers04:12
George__aoss?04:12
Toma-Jared: 'sudo modprobe spca5xx' should load it up fine04:13
holycowGeorge__, if you are having a hard time connecting to a wireless network, try wifi-radar ... its a gui for your your wireless card04:13
nickrudpuff, under mode, choose disable04:13
puffMadpilot, nickrud:  ah-hah, found it.  it's one of the display mode dropdown options.04:13
George__ok thank u04:13
Toma-George__: no04:13
CookieNinjai know a game that, last i knew, used oss so i could try flash and that game, which is a penguin themed lemmings clone04:13
puffnickrud: Thanks.04:13
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mikemone guy actually wrote a utility that was supposed to be able to allow you to run the windows drivers on ubuntu, but that didn't seem like somehting that should work04:13
George__what?04:13
Toma-CookieNinja: Pingus :D04:13
Jaredokay thankyou well the one i downloaded was in french is this one?04:13
CookieNinjathat the one, Toma-04:13
George__well cant dl it04:13
Madpilotpuff: yeah, just found it myself poking around in there :P04:14
George__not online04:14
Toma-Jared: the driver is french? ?;/04:14
holycowmikem, if all you have is windows support then its easier to buy a linux supported card than get a windows one working.  yes there is an ndis wrapper utility you can try that i guess04:14
George__hmm04:14
CookieNinjathe author was the dude who taught me about oss emulation under alsa and how to enable it to get sound ...quite a while ago04:14
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George__I cant even connect using the onboard LAN04:14
George__any ideas?04:14
holycowmikem, i've never used it i find it easier to buy supported cards, but search synaptic for ndiswrappter04:14
Jaredthe one i downloaded04:14
holycowndiswrapper even04:14
Jaredheh04:14
George__ok04:14
Jaredsorta annoying04:14
mikemThen thats probably what I am going to do,04:15
holycowGeorge__, onboard lan? wtf? is your card supported?04:15
Toma-ndisgtk is an awesome tool for ndiswrapper u should all look at! :O04:15
mikemWell, I guess I finally found a use for that 150 dollars worth of christmas money04:15
George__What ? IT's a IBM R4004:15
George__Lan, Modem, Wireless all detected04:15
Toma-click click click install of ndiswrapper + drivers. <304:15
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George__Doesn't seem 2 want (wireless, lan, etc) to connect to anything04:15
holycowGeorge__, reinstall?04:15
chet--is dapper flight2 the latest? i read ipw2200 and wpa work well in dapper?04:15
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George__I did04:16
holycowGeorge__, wow04:16
Toma-chet--: flight 2 is the latest04:16
George__I installed Mandriva, Gentoo, Ubuntu X 204:16
holycowGeorge__, you can't ping out?04:16
mikemGeorge, I am connecting over a network04:16
Toma-still alpha tho04:16
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Toma-iirc04:16
mikemright now04:16
George__HELP MEE pleae04:16
chet--thanks Toma-, i think i will try it, its just for fun anyhow04:16
George__I didn't set up dhcp in the setup,04:16
George__that is the problem?04:16
nickrudflight 3 is on the wiki, but as of last night, no go from the links04:16
Jaredsudo: moprobe: command not found04:16
Toma-chet--: if you find any bugs, PLEEEEEEEASE file a bug report!!! :D04:16
Jaredthat is the error i got Tome-04:16
chet--Toma-, you got it04:17
Angel-SLJared: modprobe04:17
Toma-Jared: "modprobe"04:17
JaredTHANKYOU04:17
Toma-chet--: thx :D~04:17
chet--should i wait a few days for flight3, ort just do flight2?04:17
Angel-SLToma-: beat you04:17
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mikemWell, all I had to do is plug in the machine, then go to system->administration->networking, select the appropiate connection and hit activate04:17
Toma-that you did.04:17
George__hmm did u setup dhcp during install?04:17
Jaredwhat will it do after i type that command?04:17
Toma-George__: yes04:18
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Angel-SLJared: what are you trying to do04:18
Toma-dhcp is setup when you setup the system04:18
holycowGeorge__, well you need an ip04:18
gwarki'm attempting to download a page and it's video files ... someone told me its possible to do it with wget .... will someone give me a hand please? much appreciated :)04:18
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Toma-Angel-SL: he's modprobe'ing his spca5xx driver for webcam04:18
George__I got no ip!04:18
Jaredget my creative instant webcam to work04:18
holycoweither via dhcp or static ... do you have an ip ? are you on the same subment on your network?04:18
George__yes04:18
jinohi every one04:18
Jaredthen i wil download camorama and start my webcam streaming04:18
George__Heck I dk04:18
George__Where 2 find OUT?04:18
jinoi have a problem04:18
George__I looking at ifconfig, iwconfig, and the gui04:18
Angel-SLJared: load it? just modprobe -a modname04:19
George__IDK help!04:19
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Jaredheh......this is chineese to me what do you mean by modname04:19
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holycowGeorge__, when you do ifconfig yourethhere ... what ip address do you get?04:19
holycowif you get none, you don't have an ip04:19
George__i dont get a ip04:19
Angel-SLJared: module name04:19
jinowhen i login to my laptop it doesnt connect to the wifi  , once reactivate it , it does.04:19
George__i dont even have a IP thing04:19
holycowGeorge__, what don'tyou try setting up a static ip?04:19
Jaredwhat, the name of the cam04:19
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George__It's nt static04:19
George__i made it DHCP04:19
Toma-Jared: run "sudo modprobe spca5xx"04:20
Jaredis there any other program i have to have for camorama to run.........okay04:20
holycowso what, make it static to make sure, perhaps yoru dhcp server doesn'twork ... get a ping out first04:20
Jaredalready did and it did nothing04:20
Toma-should be no output from it04:20
George__static?04:20
holycowonce you can ping then you can resolve everything else04:20
George__I got firewall04:20
George__I dk what the ips are 2 be?04:20
Angel-SLJared: whats the module name04:20
Toma-Jared: that means its loaded04:20
NogimicsDoes anyone know with the default installation of ubuntu what the iptable setup is like? for example im having a hard time using a command client for bittornado04:20
holycowGeorge__, system/admin/networking ... setup static ip first04:20
George__how04:20
holycowGeorge__, bring down your firewall (firestarter right?)04:20
holycowGeorge__, i told you damnit! :)04:21
George__no no hardware04:21
George__ipcop04:21
ilba7rGeorge__, or have ease of mind and install networkmanager04:21
ilba7rnetworkmanager!04:21
Toma-Jared: run "v4l-conf" and some info should popup on what your webcam is04:21
Toma-unless its v4l2...04:21
Angel-SLGeorge__: what are you trying to do04:21
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George__get SOME internet in this freaken laptop04:21
George__I trying with cable now04:21
George__even cable give me crack04:21
ilba7r!networkmanager04:21
ubotufrom memory, networkmanager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto04:21
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George__i Cant!04:22
ilba7rclear04:22
George__apt-get install networkmanager?04:22
mikemGeorge first go to system/admin/networking, under connections, select the appropiate connection type, click properties to make sure everything is correct, then close properties, and click activate04:22
BoelckeAh, you folks are talking networking.  Help!  My ubuntu installation used to see my shared windows folders (another machine on my network) under places, network servers.  Now it's gone.04:22
Angel-SLhas anyone here ever Heard Of NDISWRAPPER?04:22
George__Yeah Did that Mikem04:22
BoelckeI can ping the IP, and get a response.04:22
mikemWhat happened04:22
George__it says activated04:22
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George__but cant ping nothing ifconfig gives me no ip, subnet etc04:22
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Toma-Angel-SL: is that like, some fort of country or something? ;)04:22
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ilba7rgeorge disable fire wall04:22
Toma-*fort=sort04:22
bshumate!tell Angel-SL about ndiswrapper04:22
JaredToma- camorama froze up when i tried to use it04:22
mikemif you don't have an IP you shouldn't be able to connect at all04:22
Jaredmy whole computer did04:23
Angel-SLbshumate: i know about it.04:23
George__I cant04:23
holycowGeorge__, does your router only accept access from certain mac addresses maybe?04:23
cafuego!info scribus dapper04:23
ubotuscribus: (Open Source Desktop Publishing), section graphics, is optional. Version: 1.2.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 4836 kB, Installed size: 14748 kB04:23
George__no,04:23
Angel-SLbshumate:thank you.04:23
Toma-Jared: thats because the spca5xx drivers in ubuntu are BROKEN!04:23
ilba7rGeorge__, check /etc/network/interfaces. make sure you have of the wireless and ethernet with auto04:23
George__It's a Linksys Wireless W SOmething or another04:23
George__If I kill firewall, I kill my VPN, VOIP, FTP, and HTTP servers04:23
George__EEKK04:23
Angel-SLbshumate: you got my pm blocker to block ubotu.04:23
amicrawlerwhat is the ubuntu src website or repostitory04:23
mikemListen, I am a newbe at linux, but I am prety well versed in this04:23
holycowwell then, i think thats your problem right there04:23
ilba7rGeorge__, sometimes both eth and wirless are activated in this case network will not work04:23
Jaredno.....before camorama always froze my computer anyway........so........ugh i found the package the other day before i did this and now i can't fin the dadgum thing it was in french04:24
George__eth1 is killed04:24
ilba7rGeorge__, at least make sure the firewall is set to use the right network device04:24
George__it all is04:24
amicrawlerhello04:24
Jaredis there anything other that camorama needs to run?04:24
amicrawlerneed help plez04:24
mikemGeorge, what firewall are you using anyway04:24
George__IPCOP04:24
Toma-Jared: follow this howto, and it'll work perfect. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7528404:24
mikemOk fine04:24
Jaredokay thankkyou04:24
George__and port sinner04:24
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Toma-Jared: however, use the updated drivers from the website04:24
amicrawlerwhat is the apt-get command ?04:25
mikemYOU ARE USING 2 FIREWALLS04:25
mikem?!04:25
George__yes.. and no04:25
mikemok?04:25
George__not 2 firewalls04:25
Jaredis there a way to tell if a certain cam is supported by that driver.04:25
amicrawlermikem i use 3 firewalls04:25
George__just other 1 makes sure ports are closed down for good04:25
Toma-Jared: yep. (also, looks like the howto has the updated driver on it anyway)04:25
George__This has 2 be installation fault04:26
Angel-SLamicrawler: apt-get = apt.04:26
NogimicsDoes anyone know with the default installation of ubuntu what the iptable setup is like? for example im having a hard time using a command client for bittornado keep getting tracker connecting error04:26
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holycowGeorge__, i don't think so, i think yoru firewalls are misconfigured04:26
George__I do not get at all any ip, subnet mask nothing in ipcop04:26
Angel-SL!tell amicrawler about apt04:26
Jaredheh thats nice04:26
George__no way04:26
amicrawlerso doi do a apt-get then the pkg i want04:26
mikemI just had a case of de ja vu04:26
Toma-Jared: http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html04:26
nickrudNogimics, the default iptables is allow anything04:26
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Jaredoh i have already been there.okay it is supported04:26
Angel-SLamicrawler: apt-get install package.04:26
George__IBM z60m has Gentoo and Ifconfig gives me even when wireless anit working ip and submask04:26
NogimicsNickrud thanks for your reply04:26
Jaredyeah Toma- camorama has always froze up my computer04:27
George__This is giving me no ip subnet04:27
NogimicsWonder why my torrent is not connecting then :(04:27
nickrudNogimics, sudo iptables -L shows what's current04:27
George__nada04:27
George__D04:27
George__opps04:27
George__hmmmmmmmmmmmmm what should i try?????04:27
Toma-Jared: i had the same problem. updating the driver makes it all great. also, the newer driver makes MSN webcam chat on amsn run awesome :D04:27
George__reinstall?04:27
holycowGeorge__, another distro?04:27
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George__hellz no04:28
Toma-George__: try not being a pin in here04:28
Toma-*pain04:28
George__Pain?04:28
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Toma-i think about 3 people have told you how to fix it so far right?04:28
George__I can see the laptop wireless leds going off but no internet04:28
George__I TRIED04:28
mikemHey george, if you are looking for distributions, the next best thing to ubuntu in my oppinion is called MEPIS04:28
ilba7rToma-, does amsn support audio chat. I could not manage to find how to work it so was wondering if it has the support or nto04:28
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StratHello all - any sound card experts out here tonight?04:28
Toma-ilba7r: dont think so...04:29
George__what the hellz is wrong with this! I See the Laptop saying WIRELSS CONEECCTED04:29
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Jaredokay that is kewl well i can't wait to get it running, i get on this website it is kewl cause i can turn off some ppls lights they have a script setup with the x module applaince thing and i am planning to save up and do that so i want to get my webcam working before long so thanks muches..............heh04:29
CookieNinjaany other ideas, Toma- ? I'm just browsing for some more atm but still stuck :s04:29
ilba7rToma-,  i suspected that thanx04:29
George__WELL everybody THANKS04:29
mikemGeorge, if you don't have a connection, how is it you can talk to us anyway04:29
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Toma-George__: you know what all your settinsg should be?04:29
George__LOL04:29
George__i said04:29
George__I have a IBM Z60m and A IBM R4004:29
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George__IBM Z60m I'm Using04:30
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George__I also have a desktop04:30
George__Duh...04:30
Jaredi think i will hang around in here for a while in case i need some more help on anything, its very helpful see Toma- i am eleven years old and i am still getting used to linux and ubuntu has been a great one to start with and i think i will stick with it04:30
Toma-!sentences04:30
mikemO I see, two computers, man I am really not on the ball tonight04:30
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Toma-04:30
George__Mikem I got more than 304:30
AgamottoAn eleven year-old that can speak with alacrity... most imrpessive04:30
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bshumate!enter04:30
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!04:30
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Toma-Jared: hehe cool. i gotta go out soon, so ill only be here another few minutes04:30
mikemWe got like 6 or 7 computers in our house04:30
StratIf no experts in sound cards - can anyone explain the basics to me?04:31
Toma-George__: that lecture ubotu posted is for you.04:31
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Jaredi am a fast typer too i am proud of making myself learn how to type04:31
George__I got IPCOP, Port snipper, asteriks, samba, dad, sis, mom, me pcs, notebook x 204:31
kameronis there a command to tell what repo a package is located within?04:31
George__my ibm r40 hates me selling this damn thing04:31
Eleaflol04:31
Jaredwhen should the final version of dapper be released?04:31
EleafJared, you should make them be tomorrow04:31
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MadpilotJared: April 2006 some time04:31
Eleaflol04:31
George__really should, couldn't get gentoo to work cuz it dont detect a Radeon M604:31
mikemSounds like my desktop, the ATI Video drivers are always crashing at random, drives me crazy04:32
Agamottojared:  It will serve you very well in your future, even more if you use an ergonomic keyboard... piano strength training without the carpal tunnel :)04:32
George__ati sucks04:32
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mikemYOu said it04:32
mikemBut my dad insists I use it04:32
George__but that's like a lie, cuz i did buy a X600 notebook04:32
Jaredi play pianol, by ear mostly04:32
AgamottoAhhh, that would explain your typing as well04:32
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mikemI play piano to04:32
mikemI am also a songwriter04:32
George__Reinstall notebook? I play drums!04:32
Jaredi am fast too and i can talk and look away from the keyboard while doing that stuff and i got a nice i maching wireless key board and mouse so i like that.04:33
bradley_help! my network was working fine all of a sudden i'm not getting out on the net... i'm behind a router and all other comps work fine...04:33
nickrudahuman01, a reasonable response, George__04:33
reqJust a question from a newbie.. I installed ubuntu for the first time a while ago but it was an old version.Trying to update I managed to brake it. Can I just pop the new version cd in and install over this one so that my files stay intact? That seems to be the easiest way04:33
mikemDid you try rebooting04:33
StratAnyone know how to troubleshoot a sound card on Breezy Ubuntu?04:33
nickrudahuman01, sorry one more time04:33
George__lol countless imes04:33
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holycowJared, how did you get to installing ubuntu? you found it on the net and decided to what? you removed windows from your box?04:34
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mikemAnyone here into programming04:34
Agamottoreq:  It can't truly hurt anything04:34
mikem?04:34
Jaredmikem i play trombone in the band i wont top mucisian out of the whole 6th grade band04:34
George__Ok, I gonna reinstall04:34
Jaredlarge band04:34
AgamottoA clean install might be a better option.  With the previous install, did you make a /home partition?04:34
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mikemI played marimba in the marching band04:34
=== George__ THANKS EVERYONE FOR HELPING ME.... I LEARNED A LOT TODAY!!!! I LEARNED COMMANDS IN IWCONFIG AND SUCH! THANKS :)
Toma-Jared: im a music teacher :)04:35
Madpilotreq: did you set up a seperate partition for your home directory? If so, reinstalling won't hurt your own files04:35
StratLooks like its back to Windoze.  Third try at Linux - still can't get all periphs to work.  Damn frustrating...04:35
bradley_anyone have any idea how to troubleshoot a networking problem? ;)04:35
Mabus06CAPS ARE KIND OF ANNOYING GEORGE04:35
reqI don't think I did :& but it's not that serious04:35
Toma-Strat: linux isnt for defeatists :(04:35
mikemI don't know what strat is talking about, Linux is way better than windows04:35
MadpilotMabus06: too late, he's gone :P04:35
AgamottoMabus06:  Chalk it up to enthusiasm04:35
holycowMabus06, so was he04:35
holycowheh04:35
reqI'll try to keep an eye on making /home into it's own partition next time I install04:36
Mabus06lol04:36
StratIf Linux is better, how the hell does one get the sound card to work?04:36
StratIt is driving me CRAZY!04:36
holycowreq, heh you know having home on another partition saved me a few times now04:36
Toma- /home on its own partion is the greatest thing evar04:36
mikemThe only trouble I had with linux was picking a distribution04:36
StratJust works under windoze04:36
Jaredholycow, I had heard good things about linux, almost went with fc3 (fedora core 3 then had a computer mishap on my moms and i had a copy of damn small linux i sorta downloaded a bad versioni of ubuntu and though it was a live cd , then i wasn't that educated in linux as i am now, so i used dsl for a while and hated it but knew other linux would be better so i set out to find more linux that was better than fc3 and i did it was called ubuntu , heh04:36
ilba7rStrat, did you try the web forums?04:36
ilba7r!sound04:36
ubotusomebody said sound was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary04:36
AgamottoStrat:  Please be more specific - what sound card with which distro?04:36
ilba7r!help04:36
Stratyup, they sent me here04:36
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holycowStrat, generally one makes sure the hardware is supported under linux before instaling, otherwise it gets wacky ... what kind of sound card do you have?04:37
Jaredin linux i like to use the newest, yet most stable distro04:37
leonardo!sound04:37
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reqStrat: I had a problem with digital/analog output being fcked somehow. I have audigy 2 and all I did was upadate alsamixer and try everything. There was a forum post that I found googling for something like "ubuntu audigy 2" or something04:37
StratI am using breezy.  Have an old dell with a Cirrus Logic CS4610/1104:37
jinoSomebody please help !04:37
AgamottoHmmmm, standard sound chip04:37
StratAccordning to ALSA, it is supported04:37
Jaredthat is why i was asking about dapper cause i will upgrade to it the day that it comes out "Stabily" and that will be good i love linux04:37
holycowJared, very cool dude, welcome, have fun.  looks like you have already tried a number of distros, thats good04:37
mikemThats what we are here for04:37
Toma-Strat: what does "lspci | grep audio" return?04:37
jinoMy laptop doesnt connect to wifi initally..04:38
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AgamottoStrat:  No audio at all?04:38
leonardosame here04:38
jinolater it does when re activated04:38
leonardosorry hi all04:38
Agamottojino:  That is no so unusual.... tell us more04:38
Stratlspci returns: 0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4610/11 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator]  (rev 01)04:38
ubuloggerhey i am in the middle of a ubuntu installation and there is an error with grub04:38
jinoAgamotto : i updated to new 5.10 version04:38
mikemIf theres an error with grub, generally you should reinstall it04:39
Jaredif i can get my cam to work and find a good program to stream audio i will have completely dump windows04:39
mikemgrub is the boot strapper that launches the OS04:39
holycowbbl04:39
jinoinitially everything worked well ..Now i my pc when started connects to the wifi04:39
ubuloggermikem, i tried to reinstall it again04:39
mikemand?04:39
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jinobut doesnt bring me the we pages04:39
StratThe sound icon shows audio muted - if I try to turn in on I get an error that it can't find the device04:39
ubulogger(the whole ubuntu, not just grub04:39
mikemthat has nothing to do with your grub problem04:39
GoldfischJared: Have you tried icecasting? https://scifi.homelinux.net/mediawiki/index.php/Icecast04:39
mikemyou just need to reestablish your connection04:40
Jaredsee i don't get allowance i have a poor family and see i get really good stuff for christmas so i as for ONE expensive thing and that is what i get and i get two really expensive gifts cause my parents are divorced so  like i was saying i don't get an allowance so i like the free stuff, i am going to try ice cast04:40
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jinoAgamotto : the browser says connecting...and nothing works untill i reactivate my wifi card04:40
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StratError I get is: No volume control elements and / or devices found04:40
mikemThen reactivate your wifi card04:40
Matthew_WHello, I have a little problem... I need to know what the OPTION to put in the etc/X11/xorg.conf file under DEVICE is to make it force DVI, because... xorg kills my monitor.04:41
Toma-Strat: open up a terminal, and run alsamixer. what does that show? a mixer?04:41
ubuloggermike do you know how to fix it?  i was thinking that i could just make a grub 3.5 boot disk but i am in the middle of the ubuntu installation04:41
ubuloggermikem,04:41
PuMpErNiCkLephreak97: I got your message - awesome!04:41
Stratok, this is where it starts to drive me crazy - alsamixer isn't there04:41
PuMpErNiCkLe(a bit late o_O)04:41
Toma-oh?04:41
Jaredsee no one in my family know how to use linux so my cousins can't get on my comptuer and get me viruses, plus there are a lot less viruses for linux and no spywear, i like that and i don't have to let my cousins on my computer so heh, plus i am a ham radio operator, is anyone in here farmiliar with ham radio?04:41
Toma-my.04:41
GoldfischJared: I'm a ham04:42
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ubuloggermikem, any ideas04:42
Agamottojared:  For various bits of kit, check out your local Goodwill and Salvation Army stores... you might be amazed at what you can find.  There is also a group called Freecycle that has local groups across the country that trade things for free04:42
Stratbrand new install - only thing I have done is install the WMV support drivers04:42
reqit's updating time :) thanks for your help04:42
mikemIf you are in the middle of the installation, I would really recomend just turning the machine off, and starting from scratch04:42
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Stratthe error I get when I run alsamixer: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory04:42
Toma-Strat: ok, run "sudo apt-get install alsa-utils"04:42
Toma-ahh ok04:42
Jaredgoldfisch what class04:42
ubuloggermikem, i allready did that, is there a way to fix it so i can boot up windows04:43
AgamottoThat could be most of the problem04:43
Jaredi am a tech and i tried to get my general today but missed it by three and i am going to take it the first sunday of next month04:43
Toma-Strat: i gtg, band rehersal :/ good luck with it.04:43
mikemOoh04:43
mikemWell, can you get into windows04:43
mikem?04:43
Stratsays its already there: alsa-utils is already the newest version.04:43
Strat0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.04:43
Agamottohrm04:43
GoldfischStrat: Do you have alsa-utils installed? dpkg -l | grep alsa04:43
ubuloggerthere is some kind of error with the hard drive i guess04:43
ubuloggermikem, no04:43
StratThanks Toma - sorry to have you go04:43
JaredGoldfisch i pmed you did it show up?04:43
ubuloggerno windows04:43
GoldfischJared: Huh?04:44
ubuloggeri am trying to get htis set up for a buddy of mine04:44
Matthew_WI need this quickly, I don't mean to rush, but xorg keeps restarting itself and I don't know how to stop it04:44
Jaredgoldfisch i sent you a private message04:44
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amicrawlerwere do i get the depostitorys for xine and xxms and etc  like suse has04:44
mikemI am going to have to ask you if you were backed up before started the ubuntu instalation04:44
KoruptIs there _any_ way in GNOME (besides a farking text editor) to modify the color scheme?04:44
Madpilotamicrawler: Universe & Multiverse repos04:44
DShepherdhey anyone upgraded to dapper yet?04:45
Madpilot!tell amicrawler about repos04:45
GoldfischJared: I didn't appear to get it. Are you registered on freenode? YOu can't unless you are.04:45
mikemYou could try going into the BIOS to see if you the loader for windows is still there04:45
nickrudMatthew_W, X wil stop restarting itself, and offer some error messages.04:45
ilba7rKorupt, did you try the theme manager04:45
mikembut I really doubt it will be04:45
ubuloggermikem, pretty much,04:45
Jaredah....crap how do you register?04:45
Matthew_Wnickrud; it's restarted 48 times.04:45
Goldfisch!register04:45
ubotuwell, register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))04:45
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StratGoldfisch - says alsa-base, utils, gstreamer0.8-also, libesd-alsa0 and plugins are there04:45
Matthew_W4904:45
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nickrudMatthew_W, that's a pretty specific count04:45
Koruptilba7r: all it has is the predefined color schemes04:45
Jaredokay yall my new nick will be ki4ikl           that is my call sign04:45
ubuloggermikem,  where would that be?04:45
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kameronwtf, has anyone played a video in mplayer? how do you get it full screen?04:46
ubuloggeri have never seen a loader in a bios04:46
mikemNot sure,04:46
Matthew_Wnickrud; it's giving me an error message that tells me that..04:46
GoldfischStrat: My system has /usr/bin/alsamixer. You are saying you don't have that?04:46
MadpilotKorupt: extra themes are really easy to install04:46
ilba7rkorupt you need to install some than. search for gtk2-theme in synaptic04:46
Matthew_W"The xerver has restarted itself XX times, and ... " and I can't read it, because then it restarts.04:46
ubuloggerkameron, you need to type -zoom 3 owr whatever and then you can resize it all you wnat04:46
nickrudMatthew_W, hit ctl-alt-backspace. see what happens04:46
ubuloggermikem, is the windows gone?04:46
Matthew_Wnickrud; anyway, there's some option to add to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and I don't know what it is, it's under device.04:46
Matthew_Wnickrud; that's what I'm doing.04:46
ubuloggerit is windows 9804:46
mikemUnfortunately I believe so04:46
GoldfischMatthew_W: If you can ssh into the box, examine /var/log/Xorg.0.log04:47
ubuloggerohhwell04:47
ilba7rKorupt, and if you stilll do not like what you see google on gnome-themes and install what you like :)04:47
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Stratno - it is there - i read the error message wrong - it says it cant run: ie: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory04:47
mikemId just wipe the drives, create two partitions, one for windows, the other for ubuntu04:47
nickrudMatthew_W, um, Goldfisch is right about /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and if the ssh part of his post really matters ...04:47
mikemand go from there04:47
Stratthe error says no file or directory - not that alsamixer isn't there...04:48
mikemDo you have partitioning software04:48
Eleafwhat will happen if I put an apg 1x card in an 8x slot? = p lol04:48
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ki4ikldid you get it this time Goldfisch i registered04:48
Matthew_Wnickrud; let me look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log04:48
DShepherdhey anyone upgraded to dapper yet?04:48
nickrudMatthew_W, that, and /etc/X11/xorg.conf, post those on pastebin04:49
alberkman104:49
AgamottoEleaf:  It should work, just not at 8X whatever that stands for these days.  I think you just need to check the output voltage... 3v I think?04:49
kameronubulogger: "zoom 3 or whatever" isn't helping me shit.04:49
ki4iklrock on ubuntu04:49
EleafAgamotto, yes, the card is a 3.5 volt card.  But I don't know if this motherboard does anything other than .8 and can adjust to 1.5 if needed...04:49
mikemI hope my ubuntu CDs arive soon.04:50
AgamottoDshepherd:  Why would you upgrade to a beta version?  What, you like crashing? giggle04:50
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Matthew_Wnickrud; I wouldn't be able to get to pastebin, I went through this once before. X_X04:50
Koruptilba7r, no such package04:50
Matthew_Wnickrud; it's just some simple option I forget X_X04:50
AgamottoEleaf:  Hmmmm, I would find your mobo specs online and double check04:50
ilba7rkorupt ok wait04:50
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Varangerhi!04:50
EleafAgamotto, well it doesn't really say.04:50
Varangerwhat is gnome's program for k3b ?04:50
nickrudMatthew_W, can you dual boot?04:50
EleafVaranger, I just use k3b anyways04:50
BxLVaranger, GnomeBaker04:50
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EleafAgamotto, hmmmmmmmmm04:51
Matthew_Wnickrud; nope.04:51
VarangerThanks BxL04:51
Matthew_Wnickrud; not unless I format everything.04:51
VarangerThanks Eleaf04:51
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Matthew_Wnickrud; I wish I could remember this, it's just some OPTION line to add, because I'm using DVI and it's sending it through the VGA port.04:51
StratGoldfisch: the actual error is: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory04:51
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DShepherdAgamotto: sometimes.. :)04:52
nickrudMatthew_W, there's a script out there that will post a file to pastebin. Maybe someone here knows it.04:52
GoldfischStrat: I have typed that in to Google.com to see if anyone else has had a similar problem.04:52
EleafAgamotto, well.  If it didn't support older 3.5 volt cards.  Would the card just not work and the end.  Or would it cause damage to the motherboard?04:52
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ilba7rKorupt, sorry the right name is gtk2-engines there are number you can try and than use what you prefer. look at this site too to see how the theme might look like http://www.gnome-look.org/04:53
AgamottoEleaf:  Most of the time, it would just not work, but I know that some MSI mobos are very sensitive to voltage changes....04:53
EleafI have a DFI04:53
ilba7rKorupt, look at this link too http://art.gnome.org/04:53
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EleafAgamotto, I can wait.  I have a 6200 on the way to me.  But I can't use my new motherboard/cpu/ram untill I get that.  And I won't get that till next week but I won't be here next week... lol04:54
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AgamottoEleaf:  Figures, doesn't it?04:54
EleafAgamotto, lol04:55
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amicrawlerhow to install nvidia drivers and make them work04:56
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mykehey is there a news group reader for linux?04:56
nickrud!nvidia04:56
ubotusomebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736804:56
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Agamottoamicrawler:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-config04:56
amicrawlerok then what after that ?04:57
nickrudamicrawler, the above is supposed to be good advice04:57
GoldfischStrat: I did some poking around. NOthing real conclusive. All I can say is, you need to do the same. That is what google is there to help you with.04:57
amicrawlerdon't i need to config them?04:57
StratGoldfisch - I know.  I have spent four hours on this.04:58
AgamottoIn a terminal, type sudo nvidia-glx-config enable04:58
AgamottoThat should do the trick after an X reset04:58
GoldfischStrat: Kind of weird, but sometimes you need to walk away from tough problems and stop thinking about them. Then come back and attack them the next day. Sometimes it makes the answer fall right in front of you. :)04:58
StratThere is no clear guidance.  Not even any vuage guidance.  Every distro is different, yada, yada, yada.  Really frustrating.04:58
Stratdid that too04:58
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s_spiff:P04:59
amicrawlerCouldn't find package nvidia-glx-config04:59
amicrawleramicrawler@ubuntu:~$04:59
Agamottoamicrawler:  With most distros, the nvidia drivers configure themselves04:59
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StratI am stuck.  I hate to go back to windoze over such a trival, stupid issue, but I cant get any clear guidance and am tiring of looking just for a freakin sound card04:59
ki4iklYES THANKYOU i got my cam working this is a good os, i love it and i have to teach my dad how to use it he sucks with software in anything but some windows but a hardware genius, i haven't tried hardware so me and him are gonna sit down and take apart a comptuer so, yay04:59
tim__what are the differences between hoary&breezy05:00
CarlFKamicrawler: nvidia-settings05:00
StratEverything else (almost) has been great, but this is a pain in the ass05:00
s_spiffstrat, have you read the thread : Is ubuntu meant for you?05:00
ryan76Hi, is there a Sound person on here? I'm having problems with alsamixer05:00
Agamottoamicrawler:  Fire up Synaptic, and search for nvidia, then install the packages.  This will take care of just about everything for you05:00
s_spiff in the forums?05:00
amicrawlerCouldn't find package nvidia-glx-config05:00
ppcguyhey all running 5.10. Have cable internet and went out and bought a linksys befsr41 cable/dsl router. But can't get the damn thing set up.. Looked @ the forum and wiki still nothing. Any ideas?05:00
s_spiffamicrawler, did you search in Synaptic?05:00
nickrudtim__, on the surface? not a lot. Both work pretty well05:00
amicrawlersorry i'm new to deb05:01
CarlFKamicrawler: the name of the package is nvidia-settings05:01
StratWell, I have twenty years of programming, wrote a massive software system, have worked with PCs since they were invented, built one in 1977, wrote the modem drivers, have installed enterprise networks, etc.  Don't know what other qualifications I need.05:01
CarlFKhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/x11/nvidia-settings05:01
amicrawlerfound no resaluts05:01
s_spiffppcguy, I may be able to help, if you're using pppoe05:01
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StratJust don't know how to get Breezy's sound system to work.05:01
ppcguynope dhcp05:01
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CarlFKStrat: so write a sound card driver ;)05:02
s_spiffouu ok, nopes then, sorry05:02
BxLStrat, well, why don't you write your sound card driver05:02
s_spiffwrite??05:02
BxLhehe05:02
StratTime vs value.05:02
GoldfischStrat: Uhh...patience? Sounds cheesy, I know. :p05:02
ryan76all the instructions I can find on alsa say you need alsamixer, i install it then I get:   alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory05:02
CarlFKwez just kidding05:02
s_spiffhow to do that?05:02
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jaroStrat - i didn't read what your problem was, can you please tell me again?05:02
s_spiffCarlFK, , but in linux you can actually do it right?05:03
bradley_arrggg... i can't get my inet to work... i have cable and all other comps on the same router work... just one wont, and for no apparent reason05:03
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bradley_i have checked the network settings in system admin networks05:03
bradley_but to no avail05:03
amicrawlerpice of shit  ubuntu05:03
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CarlFKs_spiff: kinda - the hard part is getting good specs from the hardware (soundcard) manufacture05:03
amicrawlerdam restrictive arkhives05:04
s_spiffbradley_, did you ask this on 'Networking' on forums, I think you'll get a more in detail reply there.05:04
s_spiffohh ok05:04
Kr0ntabppcguy, what router did you have before this one....05:04
jaroI also had some difficulties with it because I did have two soundcard and intergrated (the poor one) was selected as default upon every reboot. It sucked. I disabled the card ;-/ Quite a hack.05:04
johndarkhorseamicrawler: please respect us with your language choices05:04
cdubyabradley_, are you getting a good IP?05:04
bradley_s_spiff i shall05:04
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jaro(hack = no real solution)05:04
bradley_cdubya: what do you mean?05:04
StratThanks jaro - Cirrus Logic SoundFusion CS4610/11 won't work with Breezy. Shows up ok in lspci.  Error when I try to use it05:04
amicrawlerwill some body pm  me05:04
bradley_cdubya: how do i check that?05:04
cdubyabradley_, ifconfig05:04
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bradley_cdubya: yes i'm getting the ip given by the router...05:05
StratJaro - error shows up when I try to unmute - No volume control elements and / or devices found05:05
cdubyaand you're sure it's a good IP in the same subnet, yes?05:05
jarobradley_: With inet I had some problems with inet6 being enabled by default. It caused problems in ipv4 networks somehow ;-/05:05
StratJaro also - alsamixer error: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory05:06
bradley_cdubya: everything seems to be set up correctly... no settings have been changed that i know off, one night it was working fine, the next morning nothing...05:06
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bradley_i can ping things from the terminal but nothing else....05:06
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bradley_very strange05:06
cdubyabradley_, can you ping outside the router?05:06
bradley_yes05:06
bradley_i can ping google for example05:06
jaroStrat: and driver for that card is loaded i suppose.05:06
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cdubyabradley_, dns?05:06
bloodcan some1 tell me how to get the files from here http://cvs.transgaming.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/winex/ to download?05:07
bradley_cdubya: sorry... n00b here... dns?05:07
Stratjaro - how do I know for sure?05:07
StratALSA pages were confusing to me05:07
jarolsmod | grep ... somewhat05:07
cdubyabradley_, I was thinking you're having DNS issues.05:07
jaroI don't know what the module is named like :-/05:07
cdubyabradley_, dns = domain name service05:07
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bradley_gotcha... well i've only dealt with dns when setting up domain names for my sites... i'm new to the networking/server side of things...05:08
cdubyabradley_, what's your /etc/resolv.conf say?05:08
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amicrawlerneed help this os is very stupid05:08
Stratlsmod shows dozens of sound drivers loaded in the mixer, codec, etc - how do I know what I need to be sure it's working05:08
jaroDid you try hardware detection (I didn't invoke it manually for year so I can hardly remember what is it's name)05:08
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Stratjaro - don't know about hw detect05:08
jaroStrat: discover05:09
nickrudamicrawler, you hurt us to the quick. In what way is this os stupid?05:09
ilba7ramicrawler, this os is linux like anyother linux it is not stupid you on the other hand do not know how to use it so you need to start a little learning05:09
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ki4ikldoes anyone know about the error where you can't get camorama to go wider image?05:09
amicrawleri normaly use suse05:09
amicrawleror rpms05:09
s_spiffamicrawler, you know, you're offending quite a few people... I know linux can be frustrating, been there done that05:09
ilba7ramicrawler, suse is also linux they are all linux05:09
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amicrawleryes i know05:09
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amicrawlerdeb apt-get05:10
ilba7ramicrawler, now post your question and i am sure someone will help05:10
bradley_search clspco.adelphia.net | nameserver 24.53.86.13 | nameserver 24.53.86.14 | nameserver 10.0.1.205:10
s_spiffamicrawler, I reccoment one thread, read it, its 'Is ubuntu meant for me'05:10
Madpilotamicrawler: so what're you actually trying to do, aside from offend the channel?05:10
bradley_that's what it says cdubya05:10
s_spiffI would reccomend it to anyone and everyone05:10
bloodhow do i compile source?05:10
bradley_the | being line breaks05:10
dooglusis there a free video editor which can edit .wmv files?05:10
bradley_does that look correct?05:10
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amicrawlerok  i need a litte help i don;t want to be restrictive on the deb arc05:11
s_spiff hey, I want to install oDC, and I have the link, it offeres me, a .exe, a binary, and source.05:11
nickrudamicrawler, ah, switching to the weird debian naming scheme is trying. I do remember.05:11
s_spiffWhat should I download, and how should I install it?05:11
DShepherddoes anyone know how to, if it is possible (even if you can do it dapper), to change the start date of the calendar to another day other than monday.... like sunday05:11
Agamottoblood:  Go into the source dir, and type config && make && make install05:11
amicrawleri seem much like windows they will not let you get what ever app you want to get05:11
Goldfischs_spiff: Well, a .exe won't help you much in the world of linux.05:11
s_spiffyeah,05:11
s_spiff what about source?05:11
ilba7ramicrawler, you just need to enable all your repos ok05:11
s_spiffcan i do something with it?05:11
ilba7r!repos05:11
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource05:11
cdubyabradley_, and the 10.0.1.2 is what?05:12
bradley_i don't know... it's just the third nameserver ip... what should it be?05:12
ilba7rfollow ubotu link. it is not link window some people run servers they do not need any security hazards as such do not need all repos05:12
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ilba7r!restricted05:12
uboturestricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats05:12
Madpilotamicrawler:  there's something over 15,000 files in the full Ubuntu archives, it's not too restrictive... :P05:12
ilba7rfollow ubotu link for property software too05:12
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ki4iklwhat was the website to that driver?05:13
amicrawleri can't get xine to work with my dvd and can't get mp3 to work05:13
s_spiffanyways, I'm come back later, have to sit to study :P05:13
bloodwhat is the source dir?05:13
s_spiffthanks Goldfisch05:13
bloodor where..05:13
s_spiff thanks people.05:13
s_spiff cya05:13
ilba7ramicrawler, so most probably you need too look at the restricted link05:13
Madpilot!mp305:13
ubotump3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:13
jaroStrat: you could use discover --enable-all -v05:13
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jarothis will print out some infomation about what devices you have...05:13
ilba7ramicrawler, install totem xine after you install w32codec05:13
Dr_Willisgee years ago it was people fighting to get software working, now its people fighting to get videos and music to play. :P05:13
ilba7rand all shall be fine05:14
dooglusis there a free video editor which can edit .wmv files?05:14
amicrawlerno just xine-ut05:14
Agamottoamichrawler:  That is relatively easy... the codecs are already in .debs for you, so it is a simple matter of fetching them05:14
ilba7ramicrawler, by the way in suse have you ever been able to run dvd05:14
AgamottoDr_Willis:  Much the same on the Windows side as well05:14
amicrawleryes no problem05:14
jaroSpif: oh, sorry, no -v but -d05:14
jaroStrat: ^ for you05:14
GoldfischFree video editor editing Windows Movie Version files. That would be a sign of the apocalypse!05:14
Dr_WillisAgamotto,  in windows now a days its "How to i get rid of this spyware..." :)05:14
ilba7ramicrawler, it is disabled  by default and cause no one sell property driver for linux they wre in delima last time i checked05:15
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amicrawlerwhy ?05:15
AgamottoDr_Willis:  I know.  I have had five phone calls this week about the new exploit/worm/whatever...05:15
ilba7ramicrawler, cause they can not support it officially05:15
amicrawleri just went to xine and downloaded the rpms and navdvd libs and wa la05:15
amicrawleri'm not asking them to support it05:16
ilba7ramicrawler, for encrypted dvd. last suse i treid was 9.2 so perhaps05:16
EugmanIs it possible to rename a symlink? I want to know so I might be able to have a different name for a folder on my webserver.05:16
ilba7r!tell amicrawler about restircted05:16
cdubyaDr_Willis, that's how I got my neighbor on Linux.....:)05:17
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ilba7r!tell amicrawler about restricted format05:17
GoldfischEugman: rm <originalsmylink> ; ln -s <originaldest> <newsymlink>05:17
ilba7r!restricted05:17
ubotufrom memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats05:17
GoldfischEugman: That should do it in one fell swoop.05:17
jinowhere can i change my splas image?05:17
amicrawleri use suse 1005:17
jarogood night to everyone (more likely good morning to people in Europe/Prague TZ) Strat: good luck with your sound card05:17
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amicrawleri'm trying deb i heard it was very user friendly05:17
ilba7ramicrawler open ubotu link and follow the steps and i am sure everything will run fine05:18
mondiey anyone here using dapper?05:18
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Eugmanthat not what I want goldfisch let me explain my self better.05:18
DShepherdmondi: hey05:18
DShepherdmondi: you tried the thing? the calendar thing?05:18
KolyaHi there05:18
mondiDShepherd: I did it05:18
amicrawlerwhat link05:18
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ubuntuhello05:19
Madpilotamicrawler: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:19
mondiDShepherd: so the issue with the alarm closing shouldn't be a problem anymore right?05:19
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ilba7ramicrawler, look at the link posted by Madpilot05:19
tim__im trying to install opera and im getting this error /Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i 8.51-20051114.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb05:19
tim__dpkg: status database area is locked by another process05:19
Madpilotamicrawler: also, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto05:19
DShepherdmondi: so you were able to change the beginning of the week from monday to sunday?05:19
anavimis there a wiki for getting a scanner to work, and/or supported scanners for ubuntu?05:19
EugmanI don't want to change the symlink to something else I just want to to look like it based on the tree structure. So instead of /localhost/reallylongnametotype/ it would look like /localhost/shortname/ . However it would still be getting the files from /reallylongnametotype/.05:20
mondiDShepherd: yeah05:20
DShepherdmondi: alarm? what alarm?05:20
Madpilottim__: have you got Synaptic running? if so close it.05:20
Goldfischtim__: Do you have synaptic running? It locks up other apt-get jobs.05:20
DShepherdmondi: great!!!05:20
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mondiDShepherd: oh nothing05:20
tim__yeah synaptec is open05:20
KolyaI have a question: When I try to uninstall the gnome-games the uninstaller warns me that ubuntu-desktop relies on them...?05:20
tim__thanks05:20
mondiDShepherd: I changed it in evolution05:20
MadpilotGoldfisch: my point, I believe :P05:20
DShepherdmondi: great!!!05:20
Dr_WillisKolya,  yes. desktop is a meta-package.. dont worry about it :P05:20
AgamottoKolya:  Yes, they depend on each other as a set of packages, don't wory05:21
Agamottoworry, even05:21
DShepherdmondi: so what are the visual changes in gnome?05:21
Dr_WillisBe happy.05:21
Dr_Willis:P05:21
mondiDShepherd: nothing extreme05:21
KolyaDr_Willis, so I can uninstall the games anyway?05:21
mondiDShepherd: some minor graphic improvements05:21
Dr_WillisKolya,  of course :P05:21
ilba7rkolya you will most probably need ubontu-desktop for upgrading. for it depends on all other packages but does nothing by itself05:21
EugmanSo is the name of a symlink dependant on what it points to?05:21
Dr_WillisEugman,  no.05:21
mondiDShepherd: it feels like Im using windows xp with the faded background whenever a system question comes up05:21
DShepherdmondi: is that a good thing or a bad thing?05:22
EugmanWhat would the rename command be in terminal?05:22
Madpilotanavim: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo05:22
dooglussomeone please try playing http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/rattlebag3.smil with mplayer.  does it work for you?05:22
mondiDShepherd: its a good thing so long as it doesn't affect performance05:22
KolyaThank you guys05:22
DShepherdmondi: and it doesnt.?05:22
dooglusit tells me "Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll".  any idea where I can get the necessary?05:22
mondiDShepherd: yeah it doesn't in fact its faster than breezy05:22
GoldfischEugman: You must want to use either an alias, or use the rewrite module in apache.05:23
nickruddooglus, no, smil will not work with mplayer05:23
DShepherdmondi: man.. you tempting me to upgrade. stop staying that :)05:23
mondiDShepherd: and consumes less memore05:23
anavimnevermind, I just needed to plug in the scanner before running kooka  :P05:23
mondiDShepherd: faster and less memory with no tweaks05:23
DShepherdmondi: my fingers are itching05:23
anavimwhoohoo, that was easy  :D05:23
mondiDShepherd: hehe05:24
nickruddooglus, it's a realplayer format that's not much used05:24
dooglusnickrud: jusy for you, you mean?  or ever?05:24
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CookieNinjadooglus, that's not the url you want to give to mplayer05:24
dooglusnickrud: what if I was to find the plugins?05:24
mondiDShepherd: just edit breezy to dapper and the twitch is gone :-)05:24
nickruddooglus, I only got realplayer to ever play that stuff05:24
joshuaany links for help configuring a tv in card?05:24
jaredhow can I enable the root user to log into gnome from the command prompt?05:24
mondiDShepherd: though I don't know about todays updates05:24
DShepherdmondi: that is superb.. so how is firefox 1.5?? intergrtes well05:24
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EugmanGoldfisch: as it stands I put symlinks in /var/www/ and renaming it would be sufficent as long as that doesn't affect it's target.05:24
mondiDShepherd: I haven't accepted the new updates yet05:25
dooglusCookieNinja: what is the URL I want to give to mplayer?05:25
CookieNinjadocta_v,  a .smil file is just a txt file telling windows media player where to play the stream from and a bit more information ... like the actual stream you want to play ....05:25
mondiDShepherd: yeah surprisingly it works better here than on breezy05:25
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mondiDShepherd: strange05:25
EugmanAnd since dr.willis says the name isn't dependant I just need to know the terminal command to rename a file.05:25
nickruddooglus, if you ever do get it working, fix restricted formats.05:25
DShepherdmondi: good.... that very good05:26
CookieNinjaassuming you have the right codecs, dooglus ... you want to try this in the shell or give the url in this line to mplayer -> mplayer rtsp://streaming2.rte.ie/2004/0803/03082004rte-rattlebag.rm05:26
mondiDShepherd: but I can't get rhythmbox to play anything ...05:26
dooglusnickrud: I looked inside that file.  it gave a URL.  I downloaded *that* URL and that gave a different URL.  I'm now trying to play that with mplayer05:26
GoldfischEugman: This is alias/follow symlinks I have on my webserver to lead to my wiki website.05:26
GoldfischEugman: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/677605:26
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dooglusit's rtsp://streaming2.rte.ie/2004/0803/03082004rte-rattlebag.rm - can you play that?05:26
mondiDShepherd: but I can play using other players05:26
CookieNinjait didn't work here, for me, dooglus ... and it's too late for me try to work it out05:26
bloodwhats the first thing i need to learn on linux? and how do i do it...05:27
dooglusblood: what do you want to use linux for?05:27
DShepherdmondi: ok..05:27
BxLblood, leanr the command: man05:27
Agamottoblood:  Well, let's see, you have installed, you have figured out how to irc....05:27
nickruddooglus, sure, you can do that. but only realplayer really recognizes what a smil file is (or also microsoft's player, I've not really used that much)05:27
ki4iklcan someone give me the link i reviced earlier from the dude abotu the spca5xx driver05:27
EugmanIt already follows symlinks. I need to know how to rename the symlink that is in place.05:27
bloodi new that from windows05:27
Goldfischdooglus: I tried, but didn't hear anything. It was mplayer inside firefox.05:27
CookieNinja.rm is real player afaik ... you might want to try that program dooglus05:27
ki4iklwait let me log in as non root05:27
dooglusnickrud: I just want to play it.  if picking the smil file apart by hand works, that'll do for me05:27
DShepherdmondi: anything else impressive in dapper other faster and less memory?05:28
joshuavideo card configuration is located where ???????????????//05:28
GoldfischEugman: Use what I initially said. Try it. It should work.05:28
nickruddooglus, sure.05:28
dooglusit's very slowly filling a cache: "Cache fill:  3.22% (270336 bytes)   "05:28
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DShepherdmondi: ahhh question.. what;s the device manager like now?05:28
bloodhow do i learn the command?05:28
Agamottojoshua:  etc/X11/Xorg05:28
amicrawlerErrors were encountered while processing:05:28
amicrawler realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb05:28
Agamottoblood:  which command?05:28
joshuaagamotto tv card is in xorg?05:29
amicrawlerdpkg: error processing w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb (--install):05:29
amicrawler cannot access archive: No such file or directory05:29
bloodall of them05:29
Goldfischblood: man man <--- read the man page on using man pages.05:29
bloodit the terminal05:29
bloodin05:29
dooglusDShepherd: dapper doesn't look much different than breezy from what I can see.  the "there are new updates" popup is prettier, but badly needs antialiasing.  the shutdown dialog has some pretty graphics, but other than that, I've not notice much difference05:29
Agamottojoshua:  All video is in Xorg05:29
skonCould anyone think of a reason why my domain name resolution is really slow but my actual download speeds are as they should be? When I switch pages, it takes about 20 seconds to resolve the name, but once it starts loading, it loads almost instantly.05:29
joshuais xorg THE driver file for both05:29
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mondiDShepherd: I think its the same . but it did detect my webcam automatically05:30
DShepherddooglus: yeah that's look.. I didnt expect much visual changes... what does the device manager look like now? device manager in breezy sucked05:30
Agamottojoshua:  It is the system for both... your tv/tv card would be in the Xorg.conf file usually05:30
dooglusDShepherd: where's that?05:30
DShepherdmondi: the same... are you sure..? cause the device manager sucked.. in breezy..05:30
steve44Goldfisch, man woman  - no manual entry for woman    BAH  thought I had them figured out finally05:30
joshuawhat is the bttv file then?05:30
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Goldfischsteve44: I don't think the HDD on your computer has the capacity to store that man page. :)05:31
DShepherddooglus: system -> prefs--> Device manager05:31
AgamottoThat may be the entry for your specific tv card05:31
mondiDShepherd: it shows a tree view of all the devices05:31
dooglusok05:31
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joshuaI keep reading that I need it to run a tv in the coak of my video card I can't figure out whats going on05:31
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dooglusDShepherd: it's just a big blank white window (!)05:31
Goldfischjoshua: bttv is a kernel module supporting a particular type of TV tuner cards based on the Brooktree chip.05:31
mondiDShepherd: and the details of the hardware are on the right pane05:31
DShepherdmondi: sounds good05:31
rikai-2does anyone know what ports need to be forward for remote desktop and ssh?05:31
amicrawlercan i use xine and watch my dvd in it with deb ?05:31
mondiDShepherd: nothing fancy05:31
dooglusDShepherd: oh, it's slowly drawing itself.  very slowly.05:32
DShepherdmondi: yeah I know..but does it work?05:32
Dr_Willisamicrawler,  should be able to.05:32
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Goldfischrikai-2: sshd typically runs on port 22. remote desktop is a fancy wrapper around vnc, which is usually in the 5900 series.05:32
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rikai-2alrighty, thanks. ;)05:32
mondiDShepherd: yeah though I didn't do anything xcept look around05:32
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joshuaMy card isn't recognized by ubuntu, I found a refernence to it in bttv.....any ideas on procedures to get it working?05:32
Goldfischrikai-2: Just remember, that vnc connections are not secure, unless you tunnel them through ssh.05:32
DShepherdmondi: what are your machines specs.. tell me what the device manager tells you05:32
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DShepherddooglus: how slow?05:33
joshuaso i need to modify ubuntu kernel to recognize and utililize my card?05:33
amicrawlerxine comes up as a old xine will not support dvd05:33
mondiDShepherd: centrino 768 mb ram 32 shared video 40g hdd05:33
apollo2011has anyone hooked up their Palm via Bluetooth for internet access?05:33
Dr_Willis!restrictedformats05:33
uboturestrictedformats is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats05:33
DShepherdmondi: ahhh 769 mb ramm <- nice05:33
Dr_Willisread there yet amicrawler ?05:33
DShepherddooglus: what is your hardware specs05:34
DShepherd?05:34
dooglusDShepherd: it took about 5 seconds before anything appeared.  then a big white empty window took about 10 or 15 seconds before anything appeared.  then it all appeared at once, but it doesn't know anything about my system05:34
dooglusDShepherd: I'm using a 2.2GHz Intel P4 laptop05:34
DShepherddooglus: memory?05:34
dooglusDShepherd: and here's what device manager knows about the Intel P4: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/DeviceManager.png05:34
dooglusDShepherd: can't remember.  356Mb or something05:34
DShepherdk05:34
dooglusDShepherd: funny number05:34
EugmanSorry if I'm being annoying but wouldn't your initial advice jjust make a new symlink connecting a different folder?05:35
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dooglus             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached05:35
dooglusMem:        353148     348872       4276          0       3048      8150405:35
dooglus(according to 'free')05:35
Agamotto256 or 384, I bet05:35
dooglusno, I don't think it's either of those 2.05:35
Techie_dudeokay, i got my cam working there for a little while and then it says can't connect to the  device at /dev/video005:35
mondiDShepherd: it gives me some of the names of the manufacturer but it can't detect which model05:35
Madpilotamicrawler: totem-xine runs DVDs for me...05:35
Techie_dudeyou have to get the libcss thing amicrawler05:36
DShepherdmondi: oh.. :(05:36
mondiare there any applications in linux where I could test out my webcam?05:36
Techie_dudeamicrawler wait and i will get you the package name05:36
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Goldfischjoshua: Check /boot/config-x.y.z, and see if you have BT848 enabled.05:36
Agamotto!ubotu tell amicrawler about libdvdcss05:36
dooglusoh, it's 384.  http://www.uktsupport.co.uk/advent/laptop/7009.htm05:36
joshuagoldfisch ----can you give me syntax ?05:37
DShepherddooglus: does dapper feel faster than gnome?05:37
Goldfischjoshua: grep BT848 /boot/config*05:37
Techie_dudecan someone please help me with my webcam issue05:37
joshuadonka05:37
DShepherddooglus: sorry faster than breezy05:37
Eugman!commands05:37
ubotucommands is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/05:37
amicrawleri need  to find xinelib-1.1.1.05:37
dooglusDShepherd: yes.  I remember when I first switched to it I was quite surprised at how much faster if felt.05:38
DShepherdmondi: what about nautilus.. any changes there>05:38
Dr_Willisamicrawler,  you seem to be doing all this the hard way. I recall just apt-get installing a few things and it played them05:38
joshuasays bt848=m05:38
DShepherddooglus: great05:38
mondiDShepherd: there is a search option now05:38
GoldfischEugman: If type ls -l /var/www/yoursymlink, you will it has an arrow pointed at your target directory. You can have any number of symlinks pointing to the same name. It is not the destination that changes, but the source symlink.05:38
dooglusDShepherd: the only thing that seems slower to me is the "open file" dialog.  it takes about 15 seconds to appear.05:38
Goldfischjoshua: Okay, type "lsmod | grep bttv"05:38
DShepherdmondi: yeah I heard... any other changes? or additions?05:38
joshuawas that supposed to do something?05:39
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mondiDShepherd: I don't know if it was there before , but there are options now to hide the different panels05:39
joshuaor did it ?05:39
dooglushey!  that smil file just started playing.  scared the sh1t out of me!  how long was that?05:39
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DShepherdmondi: cant remember what breezy was like :-D?05:40
Mr_Molezi have compiled my own kernel using the default kernels config file... but i cant get second hard drive or cdrom drive working.. Anyone else found this problem ?05:40
EugmanYes Goldfisch but when you make a new symlink it takes the name of the target folder. That is my problem. I want it to have a different name.05:40
amicrawlerok05:40
nickruddooglus, about 12 minutes05:40
dooglusabout 12 minutes I reckon.  looks like it downloaded the whole thing before starting to play it05:40
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mondiDShepherd: yeah , and coz I am new ubuntu user , I was using mandriva so I was used to kde05:40
Techie_dudeack, can anyone help me with my webcam issue, PLEASE,05:40
GoldfischEugman: No. If you type ln -s <target>, then by default the symlink will take its name. Add a second argument, ln -s <target> <symlink>, and your symlink will have an alternate name.05:40
amicrawleri'm looking  for a few things05:41
Madpilotamicrawler: totem-xine + libdvdread3 plays DVDs fine, it's by far the easiest way to do it...05:41
Goldfischlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2006-01-07 23:41 foobar -> /usr/local/src/mythtv/05:41
Goldfischlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2005-09-25 20:03 mythtv -> /usr/local/src/mythtv/05:41
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DShepherdmondi: k05:41
DShepherdwanna send me some screenshots and stuff?05:41
joshuatvtime still has no signal do i need to reboot?05:41
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DShepherdmondi: wanna send me some screenshots and stuff?05:42
mondiDShepherd: sure , where do I send em05:42
nickrudI've only ever read a smil file just to see what read it, anyway. Was it worth it dooglus ;)05:42
Eugmanoh ok. But I'd have to be in the www directory for that to work the way you said correct?05:42
doogluswhere do you set up whether you want "follows mouse" or "click to type" focus in gnome?05:42
DShepherdmondi: check your pm05:42
mondik05:42
joshuahey goldfisch im attempting mythtv    am i even close?05:42
GoldfischEugman. Yeah. mythtv in my case is symlink in my /var/www. I created foobar to demonstrate two different symlinks pointed at the same destination.05:43
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DShepherdmondi: got that?05:43
Goldfischjoshua: A little extra info --->  https://scifi.homelinux.net/mediawiki/index.php/MythTV05:43
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Goldfischjoshua: Close is so subjective. I am trying to figure out if you have your TV tuner card in line. First get it working with something like xawtv. MythTV comes later.05:43
bloodhow do i install cvs on my computer?05:43
Goldfischjoshua: type "lsmod | grep bttv" so you can see if the kernel module is loaded.05:44
dooglusblood: type alt-f2 and then "sudo apt-get install cvs"05:44
stpereblood: sudo apt-get install cvs05:44
Eugmanok. The command you had posted didn't make sense because normally the third argument when I make a symlink is where to put it instead of what to name it.05:44
stpereblood, when asked, insert the install cd05:44
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joshua$ returned no informnation with that command05:44
Goldfischjoshua: What do you get typing "modprobe bttv"05:45
joshuatvtime loads butxawtv won't boot05:45
dooglusblood: oh, and tick 'run in a terminal'05:45
amicrawlerwhat i'm looking for is  things i can get in suse and regular debian with out complacations and running in to problems05:45
joshuashould i post errors on paste?05:45
GoldfischEugman: I only typed two arguments. "-s" is not an argument, but really a flag, indicating symbolic link as opposed to hard link.05:45
Goldfischjoshua: Yeah, on pastebin05:46
joshuak05:46
nickrudamicrawler, if you only install with apt-get or synaptic, you won't have complications. apt-cache search will help you find the right packages05:46
amicrawleri do have that05:46
amicrawlerit say  all the time not found05:46
nickrudwhat's not found05:47
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nickrudamicrawler, what apps are you wanting to run?05:47
ryan__Hey all05:47
Techie_dudei am sitting in my floor with my wireless keyboard using my cmoputer so i can'\ play wiht my sun05:47
Techie_dudesun=usb05:48
joshuahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/677705:48
amicrawlerxine unstable  dvd opengl games dvdripping apps and new apps05:48
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Goldfischjoshua: Sorry. My fault. Type "sudo modprobe bttv"05:48
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Madpilotamicrawler: that's not the most exact list... but enable the Universe/Multiverse repos and update, and you should be OK...05:49
joshuai have so much to learn05:49
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nickrudamicrawler, if you'd post /etc/apt/source.list to a pastebin, that's the place to start.05:49
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joshuanothing comes back...05:49
amicrawleri did that last night05:49
Agamottojoshua:  Yep, like anything else, it is just a matter of patience05:49
nickrudamicrawler, well, that was then. this is now.05:49
GoldfischAhh, but the feeling once you conquer a major application, and your linux servers bow at your command!05:50
Techie_dudeokay i got the spca5xx driver running smooth with my cam but then i restarted my computer and it wont work i tried modprobe again and it wont work05:50
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doogluswhen I click on a URL in gaim, if I'm running XFCE, the link opens in firefox, but if I'm running GNOME it opens in a terminal (in w3m).  where is that configured?  I'd like it to use firefox in GNOME.05:50
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joshuanothing comes back...05:51
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Goldfischjoshua: Again, do the "lsmod | grep bttv" and see if you now have an entry.05:51
AgamottoSystem -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications05:51
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dooglusAgamotto: is that to me?  if so I looked there and firefox is already my preferred browser.05:52
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joshuahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/677805:52
Agamottodooglus:  Hmmmm05:52
dooglusAgamotto: that's what I thought.  Hmmm.05:52
joshuait came back with info05:52
Techie_dudedoes anyone know how to help me with my cam troubles05:52
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amicrawlerok installed the nv drivers how to make active05:53
Goldfischjoshua: Excellent. Now type, "dmesg | grep bttv" to examine the syslogs for any bttv module actions.05:53
dooglusAgamotto: incidentally, I have never configured anything to use w3m - I didn't even know it was installed until gaim started running it!  (And yes, gaim used to use firefox a few months ago)05:53
AgamottoTechie_dude:  Most likely not, at least with the current crowd.  You might wish to try again in a little while05:53
Agamottodooglus:  Interesting05:53
anavimyeah, gaim likes using konqueror on my system even though I use firefox05:54
Madpilot!tell anavim about nvidia05:54
anavimwhy?05:55
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Madpilotanavim: the bot should have just pm'd you...05:55
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anavimwhy?05:55
anavimmy graphics work fine05:55
amicrawleram i speeling streamripper right in apt-get05:55
Madpilotanavim: usually "nv" means "nvidia" - what does it mean in this case, then?05:55
drcodeany one know if ssh client I can put on deomnd for port forward?05:56
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anavimI am having a problem with apt-get update though.  it fails to hit the server, as does curl and wget.  but ping and firefox work fine.. any way to force it to hit the server?05:56
amicrawlerhow do i setup my nvidia drivers05:56
Agamottonv is the X.org generic 'free' driver... nivida is the non-free driver supplied by nvidia05:56
dooglusAgamotto: gaim is running "x-terminal-emulator -e /usr/bin/www-browser" - and that runs w3m05:56
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anavimMadpilot, I don't understand, did I say something about nv?05:57
Madpilotanavim: ack, my mistake, I got your nick mixed up with amicrawler's... sorry05:57
Agamottodooglus:  try changing it to /usr/bin/firefox05:57
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anavimMadpilot, ok05:57
Madpilotamicrawler: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia05:57
dooglusAgamotto: I don't know how it decides to use that05:57
chet--dapper is installing on compaq v2000, so far so good05:58
johndarkhorseanavim: pinging the server and actually grabbing things are two differnt things05:58
Agamottodooglus:  Must be a simple config text file somwhere in gaim's dir05:58
dooglusAgamotto: oh, I see.  in gaim's prefs there's a 'browser' section05:58
dooglusit's set up to run "sensible-browser"05:58
anavimjohndarkhorse, yes, but being able to ping the server and grab the pages with firefox proves they are reachable and that apt-get is indeed broken05:58
anavimis apt-get using libcurl to grab the files?05:59
anavimif so, I could manually upgrade libcurl...05:59
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Veshhmm, Ive got a problem with dual booting, ubuntu works just fine by itself, but if my win xp hard drive is connected, it will refuse to start, any suggestions?05:59
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nickruddooglus, sensible browser is set by the x-www-browser alternative; sudo update-alternatives x-www-browser06:00
ericmoritz\0hi06:00
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dooglusnickrud: ls: /usr/bin/x-www-browser: No such file or directory06:00
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dooglusnickrud: what package provides that?06:00
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ericmoritz\0I'm trying to write a custom init.d script that starts a server but I don't want the server running as root.  Does anyone know how I can change that?06:00
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joshuatvtime says cannot open capture device /dev/video06:01
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joshuasry /dev/video006:01
crimsunericmoritz\0: in the initscript, explicitly use the user and/or group as parameters06:01
Agamottojoshua:  try changing it to video006:01
DShepherdmondi: thanks06:01
Goldfischericmoritz\0: Well, "su - <newuser> -c "/my/command <arg1>..." is one way06:01
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dooglusnickrud: I see.  you need the "--config" argument in there too06:01
nickruddooglus, it's not in any package, it's an alternative, which is alterable by more than one package... if I could paste here I'd show mine existed06:02
AgamottoDoes jesus save?06:02
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joshuaalso says Format unsupported by Labtec Webcam Elch2 (my usb webcam) Im focused on tv card though06:02
DShepherdAgamotto: I hope so06:02
DShepherdAgamotto: or I am lost06:02
joshuaxawtv crashes ubuntu06:02
Goldfischjoshua: Did it correctly detect your card and put it in the right tuner mode? (NTSC or PAL). This should be seen in your "dmesg | grep bttv" output. If not, you may to adjust a couple bttv module parameters.06:02
dooglusnickrud: the symlink existed, but the target of the link didn't06:03
dooglusnickrud: it's a link like this: /usr/bin/x-www-browser -> /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser06:03
nickruddooglus, exactly06:03
dooglusbut /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser didn't exist.06:03
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alescoIs anyone running 5.10 on a laptop ?  I'm having a couple of issues.....06:03
nickruddo the sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser, and create one06:03
dooglusit used to, but somehow got deleted.  I'd report it as a bug, but I've no idea how it got deleted, so it's not much use.06:04
joshuadmesg | grep bttv no output from that command06:04
dooglusnickrud: I did.06:04
dooglusnickrud: and that worked - thanks06:04
Goldfischjoshua: I found this stack of bttv parameters. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/677906:04
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Goldfischjoshua: To get my card properly recognized, I have an /etc/modprobe.d/bttv file containing "options bttv card=78 tuner=2" These options are used when doing "modprobe bttv" to properly configure it.06:05
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joshuahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6778 did you see this....?06:06
Goldfischjoshua: I got this from my machine.06:06
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AgamottoI would stick around, but I need to take my eyeballs out06:07
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AgamottoChat with you all later06:07
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Goldfischjoshua: Yes, and I said excellent, because it showed that the modules had loaded.06:07
Goldfischjoshua: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/678006:07
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Goldfischjoshua: Also, /etc/modules has a line with "bttv" in it, so at boot time, it knows to load that module automatically.06:08
joshuaway over my head06:08
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Goldfischjoshua: What model TV tuner do you have? I had to search to figure out which card I card and figure out the tuner setting. That is the only way. Simple research.06:09
joshuaaitech wavewatcher pci06:09
joshuahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6780 should i copy this into something?06:10
joshuachanging what i find in research06:10
joshua?06:10
joshisscifican anyone help me with getting java sdk up and going with an IDE as well to program with?06:10
sethkjoshisscifi, use eclipse06:10
anavimdoes anyone know the name of the ubuntu base networking lib?06:11
joshisscifisethk: ok, I have a bunch of listings for eclipse in Adept now, which do I need to install?06:11
joshuaby the by Goldfisch are you a Turner?06:11
joshisscifieclipse-jdt?06:11
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sethkjoshisscifi, I don't know, I never installed it that way.  I would probably just install them all rather than worrying about which I need06:11
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Goldfischhttp://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/BTTV.html says "AITech WaveWatcher TV-PCI = can be LR26 (Bt848) or LR50 (BT878)"06:11
croutonhow do you take care of spaces within a command? e.g. scp user@host:file with spaces06:12
Dr_Williscrouton,  try single quotes06:12
nickrudcrouton, correct placement of quote marks06:12
croutonDr_Willis, where exactly? i've tried a lot.06:12
Goldfisch...and "card=8 - Lifeview FlyVideo II (Bt848) LR26" according to my bttv spec listings.06:12
Goldfischjoshua: So create a file called /etc/modprobe.d/bttv with one line "options bttv card=8"06:13
Dr_Willisscp 'user@host:foo bar' would be my guess06:13
croutonhmm. don't think so06:13
Dr_Willisscp "'user@host:foo bar'"06:13
Goldfischjoshua: Then, "sudo rmmod bttv" and then "sudo modprobe bttv" again.06:13
Dr_Williswith a " and a ; :)06:13
joshuaeeeee how do I do that? Im a total newb ...... create the file?06:13
nickrudortner, scp user@host:"foo bar" ?06:13
Dr_Willisoops a " and a '06:13
GoldfischTo handle spaces, escape them with a backslash.06:13
Dr_WillisGoldfisch,  good answer.. :P06:14
nickrudargh06:14
egkamphow about something like scp user@host:foo\ bar06:14
joshisscifihas anyone had problems installing the cisco vpn client in ubuntu?06:14
Goldfischegkamp: ;)06:14
nickrudGoldfisch, wins06:14
croutonok, backslash i hadn't though of06:14
GoldfischAn unfortunate skill one must learn when mounting legacy Windows system, filled with space-laden files.06:14
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croutonhmm06:15
nickrudwho cares where the winning hand comes from :)06:15
GoldfischI like OpenVPN. Set it up on my ubuntu laptop, and my home server in no time.06:15
spect3r!azureus06:15
ubotusomebody said azureus was a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo06:15
cappicardgood evening all. I have tried to install Breezy Badger, but after I run the installation, I keep getting "cannot find /sbin/init" when attempting to boot into it after installation.06:15
joshisscifiGoldfisch: but will the client connect to a cisco vpn server?06:15
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GoldfischOh, well...my guess is that they are probably IPsec based, which openvpn is not for.06:15
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Dr_Williscappicard,  yopu are saying the isntall worked? or is the installer the thing giving the error?06:16
ContaminationAnyone think they can help me with a 5.10 install on a iMac?06:16
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Goldfischjoshua: You are going to have to learn how to edit text files, whether through vi, emacs, nano, gedit, or something. I can't walk you through editing files.06:16
Dr_WillisContamination,  :P what part do you need help with?06:16
cappicardwell, the installer completes, it's when I  try to reboot my system to go into Ubuntu06:16
ContaminationDr_Willis: X says it all06:16
irci pretty much figured out how to do it I just can't get sudo authority in the gui06:17
cappicardalso, I can't get it to install grub. I have hda and hdb. I boot from hda's MBR normally06:17
Dr_WillisContamination,  Huh? :P06:17
cappicardso I have to resort to LILO06:17
ContaminationComplete sluggish performance to a near halt when X window system loads.06:17
chet--is wpa_sup installed with dapper? i see some on the forums saying wpa worked out of the box?06:17
chet--but i dont see it06:17
croutonoy. double quotations *and* backslashes.06:17
GoldfischIsn't gksu the GNOME tool to gui-wrap sudi?06:17
MadpilotGoldfisch: gksudo06:18
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kameronmadpilot, why wouldn't you just sudo command, instead of gksudo command? what's the diff?06:19
Dr_WillisContamination,  odd.. what your specs on the imac?06:19
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Contamination500MHZ 640MB RAM G306:19
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ircmy gui wont give me root permission to save file in /etc/modprobe.d/bttv06:19
Madpilotkameron: to run GUI stuff, gksudo is recommended - I can't remember the technical details, though06:19
kameroneh06:19
ContaminationWhen I cancel X from loading during boot time everything flies until it starts up Gnome which needs X06:19
Dr_WillisContamination,  I got an iMAC DV - with  like 256mb. and it ran 'ok' on mine..  not sure what the cpu is.. (500mhz i think)06:20
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nickrudirc, gksudo gedit, if you do it that way: and sudo cp <file> <file> otherwise06:20
garryirc, from terminal sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/bttv06:20
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smogd06:20
Dr_WillisContamination,  may want to check the ubuntu wiki/forums - there maybe a mac support section.06:20
ContaminationDr_Willis: I did and they all could not find the solution :)06:20
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malubankudihey06:20
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smogCan anybody recommend a good firewall for ubuntu?06:21
malubankudihow do i get ubuntu to read my second HD set as master06:21
Dr_WillisContamination,  heh - do like I did.. put osx back on (or os9) and use it  for a SSH box. :P06:21
Dr_WillisContamination,  i had other 'issues' with ubuntu on my imacDv06:21
nickrudsmog, shorewall is the one supported by ubuntu, and firestarter is the easiest one.06:21
malubankudihow do i get ubuntu to read my second HD set as master06:22
ContaminationDr_Willis: So basically you know nothing about the problems with X on the iMac for the 5.10 dist?06:22
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smogShould I do a get apt for shorewall?06:22
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amicrawlerok thanx guy for the info06:22
nickrudsmog, probably firestarter would be better. It works very well06:22
Dr_WillisContamination,  I had no issues with it.06:22
malubankudihow do i get ubuntu to read my second HD set as master06:22
amicrawlerone more thing06:22
garrymalubankudi, If a hard drive is secondary, it can never be considered as master.06:23
ContaminationDr_Willis, what dist is installed on that iMac?06:23
DShepherdwhat;s the difference between abiword and abiword-gnome06:23
DShepherd?06:23
Dr_WillisContamination,  the issues i had was with a off set on the Monitor.06:23
amicrawlerhow do i get all the things added to my menus in kde or gnome06:23
tim__i am trying to install opera Unpacking replacement opera ...06:23
tim__Setting up opera (8.51-20051114.5) ...06:23
tim__ then it returns me to the prompt but i dont see opera in any menus06:23
Dr_WillisContamination,  i think it was 5.10 i had on it a few mo ago.. Its back to OSx now.06:23
smogWhat's the command to install software?06:23
smogget something06:23
amicrawlerapt-get06:23
smogthanks06:23
ircwow that was counter intiuitive but neat06:23
amicrawlersudo apt-get install06:23
Dr_Willistim__,  try typing 'opera' ?06:23
ContaminationDr_Willis: Alright and how did you correct this off set on the monitor?06:24
garryor use /system/administration/synaptec06:24
cappicardah... found the howto on how to install from the knoppix live CD06:24
amicrawlerknoppix i tryed allready06:24
Dr_WillisContamination,  I dident.. it was a real PAIN.. aparently the 'fix' was to boot to OS-X and use its tools to adjust the monitor.. well i had no dualbooting. so i couldent fix it from within linuix06:24
amicrawlernot mipressed06:24
joshisscifiwhy does kubuntu not come with synaptec?06:24
Goldfischjoshua: I saved that BTTV information here ---> https://scifi.homelinux.net/mediawiki/index.php/BTTV <-- contains a link to a BTTV howto, along with card options.06:24
tim__ok that worked do i have to do that everytime i want to run it?06:24
ContaminationDr_Willis: Alright thanks anyway06:25
alescoaimcrawler, go to Applications, System Tools, the select Applications Menu Editor06:25
amicrawlerso how do i get all the multivers app add to my gome menus?06:25
ircyou rock gold i got the file saved could it work now?06:25
Dr_WillisContamination,  yea over all - i was not impressed much with it on the imac.. but my imac is a old box now a days.06:25
Madpilottim__: opera doesn't add itself to the menus automatically, but see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser for how to get it there06:25
nickrudamicrawler, install menu-xdg, it will add a debian submenu, with most everything06:25
Goldfischirc: Uh...are you joshua?06:25
alescosmog, try synaptic package manager.  Its a gui front end for apt-get06:25
garryThe Kubuntu analog for synaptec is adept06:25
ircyes06:26
ContaminationDr_Willis: Yes it is but I prefer to bring back some life into it by running ubuntu.06:26
joshisscifigarry: thanks06:26
spect3r!totem06:26
ubotuspect3r: Do they come in packets of five?06:26
garryjoshisscifi welcome06:26
ircmy system crashed when i opened xawtv06:26
Dr_WillisContamination,  yea.  I got several linxu box's so i jsut got the imac in the corner and use it as a ssh to the linux box machine. (or vnc)06:26
Goldfischirc: Okay..."sudo rmmod bttv" followed by "lsmod | grep bttv" (proving it is removed), and finally "modprobe bttv".06:26
spect3r!totem-plugin06:26
ubotuspect3r: No idea06:26
Goldfischirc: Don't forget sudo on those rmmod/modprobe commands. :)06:26
amicrawlerhow to ?06:27
amicrawlermenu-xdg06:27
amicrawleri got the nvidia drivers working cudos to the help06:28
smogWhat do you have to do to enable ssh access on a ubuntu machine?06:28
Xenguysmog: install and configure ;-)06:28
nickrudamicrawler, sudo apt-get install menu-xdg (or use synaptic)06:28
amicrawlerk06:28
smogis ssh in apt-get?06:29
Xenguysmog: apt-get will fetch ssh06:29
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amicrawlerall redy installed06:29
Xenguyapt-get install ssh06:29
ircit says error module bttv does not exist in /proc/modules06:29
smogok thanks06:29
alescosmog, apt-get install ssh06:29
Dr_Willisthe ssh server is called somthing else isent  it..06:30
HappyFoolssh or openssh ?06:30
Dr_Willisssh is the client. (or am i confused)06:30
XenguyDr_Willis: dependencies get pulled in IIRC06:30
Dr_WillisXenguy,  i dident think the client puilled the server.06:30
Goldfischirc: After which command?06:30
malubankudihow do i get ubuntu to read my second HD set as master06:30
alescoI just tried it and it installes openssh server06:30
XenguyDr_Willis: maybe it's the other way around06:30
Dr_WillisXenguy,  yea i think so that mazkes more sence06:31
ircsudo rmod bttv06:31
HappyFoolyou can install openssh-client to get the client only; ssh is a metapackage06:31
malubankudihow do i get ubuntu to read my second hd as the slave06:31
ircsudo rmmod bttv06:31
Goldfischirc: "lsmod | grep bttv" is your check if the module is loaded. If it isn't loaded, then there is no use for trying to remove it (rmmod). Press on the next step.06:32
spect3r!gstreamer06:32
ubotuNot a clue, spect3r06:32
ircnext step had no return info from system, proceed?06:32
smogAfter you install ssh how do you configure it06:33
malubankudiHod do i get ubuntu to read my second hd set as slave06:33
Goldfischirc: Yep. The goal is to try and reload the kernel module with those new bttv options.06:33
HappyFool!tell smog about ssh06:33
malubankudihow do i get ubuntu to read my second hd set as slave06:34
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HappyFoolmalubankudi: please don't repeat yourself06:34
Madpilot!tell malubankudi about mount06:34
ircok i did modprobe bttv got errors06:34
Goldfischirc: sudo?06:34
tim__ok i got it, thanks madpilot. are all applications this hard to install, i mean it seems like there was a lot of steps that i had to do manually are all the aplications like this?06:34
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ircnow as sudo got no feedback from system06:35
Goldfischirc: Okay, sounds good. "dmesg | grep bttv"06:35
yancheng1 is stdout, 2 is stderr, may i noe how about 3??06:35
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ubuntud06:35
ubuntuls06:35
ircsays it's loaded06:36
kairu0can i change my downloading directory in Bittorrent official to another without losing my incomplete download?06:36
ubuntuout06:36
spect3ri've incountered a bit of a problem when trying to compile something fomr source... it get an error saying06:36
spect3rconfigure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH06:36
paulproteus|laptkairu0: Yes.  Simply stop the torrent, move the partially-downloaded file, and restart the torrent.06:36
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Goldfischirc: Can you send me some pastebin of that dmesg command?06:36
paulproteus|laptspect3r: Install the package called 'build-essential'.06:37
spect3rk will try06:37
ircsure06:37
spect3rthanks06:37
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ircplease excuse name of computer06:37
docsqualewhat imap server do people recommend for a simple server with 1-2 users?  I've been trying installation and configuration of cyrus, courier, and it's not been a good experience.06:37
irchttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/678106:38
TuxOtakudoes anyone here know much about cedega?06:38
kairu0paulproteus|lapt, cool thnkx06:38
nickruddocsquale, dovecot is pretty easy06:38
HappyFoolyancheng: i don't think there is a default file (or stream?) connected to fid 3. I'd guess the first 'fopen' call in a program would return 306:38
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docsqualeis dovecot in the package manager?06:38
nickrudyeah, it's in main06:38
irci think my tv card might be a zoran chipset?06:39
ircshould i try tvtime?06:39
docsqualethanks.  oh one last thing, I want to only run it in ssl mode.  I'm assuming dovecot supports that?06:39
spect3rthanks paulproteus|lapt that seems to have fixed my problem, now more problems i must try and fix :D06:39
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drcodehi all06:39
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nickruddocsquale, yes, take a look at /etc/dovecot.conf06:40
drcodeany one know ssh deamond for port forward in linx?06:40
paulproteus|laptspect3r: Good. (-;06:40
Goldfischirc: Not sure. I am wondering if we still have to figure out your tuner parameter. Check if you have any video devices "ls -l /dev/video*"06:40
paulproteus|laptdrcode: openssh-server06:40
docsqualenick, thanks will try installation now.06:40
garryCedega, last I heard, don't like ubuntu vry well, but they might have fixed it. It doesn't run all that many games, I tried the trial. It did not work like the readme said it was supposed to.06:40
irck06:40
drcodeI rund openssh-server06:40
drcodeI mean the client side06:40
ircls -l /dev/video*06:40
ircyes it came back video006:41
drcodeI use ssh to get port forward , but is there ssh client damon?06:41
irccrw-rw----  1 root video 81, 0 2006-01-07 22:54 /dev/video006:41
yanchengHappyFool: thanks06:41
drcodeor I need to put & at ssh?06:41
nickruddocsquale, I use dovecot, but I only experimented with dovecot in ssl, I have it listening local only06:41
yanchengyccheok@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ ls 2>/dev/null 1>&206:41
yanchengyccheok@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ ls 1>&2 2>/dev/null06:41
yancheng12-~1.MP3  ecos-install.tcl  music.mp3.part06:41
yanchengmay i noe for the first command, is 1>&2 always be executed first?06:41
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Goldfischirc: That is your device file to try out. Yeah, looks correct. You can try your tv app, passing it that device file. Send me your model again. I am worried we don't have it all yet.06:42
ircaitech wavewatcher06:42
yanchengfor the second command, why 2>/dev/null is executed before 1>&2?06:42
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wotnargyancheng: its first on the arguement list...06:43
ircno signal ;(06:43
CookieNinjaand ... if that desperate for windows games, run them on windows06:43
Dr_WillisCookieNinja,  bah! spend the $$ on books that teach you how to make your own games.06:43
dooglus1>&2 redirects errors to where the output is going.  so you do it after redirecting the output06:43
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Dr_Fatehow do I get rid of this Debian sub-menu?06:43
SapentisDoes anyone use dialup?06:43
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CookieNinja$ Dr_Willis .... bah! i live in the uk, it's  :P06:43
yanchengwotnarg : ls 2>/dev/null 1>&2, do u mean 1>&2 is the first on the arguement list?06:43
nickrudDr_Fate, remove menu-xdg06:43
garryI use dialup, when I'm working on somone elses computer.06:43
Dr_WillisDr_Fate,  liol.. someone was just asking how to get it installed earlier.06:44
MadpilotDr_Fate: right-click on the menu, choose Edit Menu - how did it get there, anyway?06:44
Dr_Fatelol06:44
Sapentisgarry, I mean yours. :p06:44
ircsaid cannot open capture device06:44
wotnargyancheng: Ok, explain again what you are asking?06:44
ircvideo006:44
Dr_Fatethanks nickrud06:44
docsqualenickrud: what's the easiest way to generate needed SSL files (cert?) for the dovecot server?  I used to do it via a makefile in Mandrake...06:44
Dr_Fatedialup?06:44
SapentisI'm getting dialup, trying to find a way of getting it to run at more than 5.6k =D06:44
garry Sapentis Yeah, sorry bout that.06:44
Dr_Fateseriously?06:44
Goldfischirc: Are you US-based (NTSC) television?06:44
ircyes06:44
SapentisDr_Fate, well in Nigeria not alot of options are available to teh common geek.06:45
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Goldfischirc: Try editing /etc/modprobe.d/bttv and appending "tuner=2" to the end of your options. Retry unloading/loading the bttv module again.06:45
nickruddocsquale, you got me. I did some wacko fako stuff for my exeriments06:45
docsqualenickrud: LOL06:45
DaSkreechDShepherd: Dapper man Dapper06:45
yanchengwotnarg: okie. for the command ls 2>/dev/null 1>&2, why stdout is redirect to stderr first, then only stderr is redirect to /dev/null?06:45
CookieNinjagosh, i forget some ppl still rely on dialup :s *donates money to any charity or business trying to give such ppl broadband*06:45
yanchengwotnarg: not the reverse?06:46
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wotnargyancheng: Hrm...06:46
nickruddocsquale, if it's only on one computer, just have it listen locally. Then you don't need ssl for the connections.06:46
docsqualeit's one machine on the home network, but I need access from school back to home, thus the ssl06:46
Dr_FateSapentis, ouch, my bad;)06:46
TuxOtakuCookieNinja...Darwinia is on Linux now?! O_o06:46
dooglusyancheng: the redirections are executed left to right06:46
nickrudah.06:46
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SapentisDr_Fate, not a problem.06:46
Mr_Molezi need help kernel 2.6.14 does not find my cdrom drive, it doesnt have any device nodes06:46
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joshisscifican anyone recommend an IDE other than eclipse... I'd like one that will do intelligent coloring of the various parts of the source code while typing06:47
wotnargyancheng: I don't know :/ Can you not just do ls 2>/dev/null >/dev/null?06:47
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DaSkreechDShepherd: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/01/04/167235&from=rss06:47
irc"tuner=2" is exact syntaxt?06:47
dooglusyancheng: compare:06:47
matthew_wHey - what repository do I have to add to get wmcodecs and msfonts?06:47
dooglus(echo this is output; echo this is error 1>&2) > /dev/null 2>&106:47
dooglus(echo this is output; echo this is error 1>&2) 2>&1 > /dev/null06:47
dooglusyancheng: they produce different results06:47
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CookieNinjaTuxOtaku, i thought it was out on windows, linux and mac at the same time06:48
ecarrollI just created a chroot with debchroot, and a bind mounted proc and dev, anyone have an idea of how i would login to it?06:48
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CookieNinjai could be wrong, TuxOtaku, as i found out about it via a linux mag06:48
dooglusecarroll: you would just run "dchroot"06:48
Dave|idhey, can someone tell me why version.h is missing for etc/src/linuxxxx/include06:48
TuxOtakureally? damn. i love that game...i'm gonna go do some googling06:48
Dave|idhow does one get the version.h file there06:48
matthew_wI know before it was "marillat" ... now I'm not so sure.06:49
CookieNinjaTuxOtaku, ... http://www.darwinia.co.uk/06:49
TuxOtakui wonder if uplink is available on linux too....06:49
matthew_wBreezy screwed some things up.06:49
Dave|idneed it for compiling06:49
CookieNinjathere's a demo on their site to try if u not played it, TuxOtaku06:49
nickruddocsquale, I used this: /usr/share/doc/openssl/doc/HOWTO/certificates.txt.gz06:49
Dave|idmake include/version.h doesn't do much06:49
Dave|idmake: *** No rule to make target `include/version.h'.06:50
alescoanyone using Breezy on a laptop ?06:50
joshisscifialesco: yes06:50
crimsunDave|id: install linux-headers-$(uname -r)06:50
TuxOtakuyeah, i used to have it on windoze, CookieNinja06:50
irchttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6782 bttv file looks like this06:50
alescojoshisscifi, Have you got the wireless working ?06:50
ecarrolldooglus: Thanks a ton06:50
docsqualenickrud, thanks, I'll have to read that when I'm not as sleepy as I am now.  Looks helpful.06:51
joshisscifialesco: yes lol06:51
Dave|idsudo apt-get install build-essential gcc-3.4 linux-source-2.6.12 and also sudo apt-get install linux-headers-68606:51
Dave|idhave been done06:51
joshisscifialesco: after much cussing at it06:51
CookieNinjauplink seems to be available too, TuxOtaku06:51
nickruddocsquale, it tells you how to make your own certificate, that you can use with dovecot06:51
kairu0help! i cannot type in any java apps (in firefox)!06:51
alescoI'm having so many issues as well.  I downloaded the source from intel and still not luck.06:51
Goldfischirc: It should all be one line: options bttv card=8 tuner=206:51
TuxOtakusweet...too bad it's not GPL'd06:51
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docsqualenickrud, thanks.  dovecot is giving me grief starting, thinking the port is in use... not sure how/where...06:52
ircdone06:52
ircnext?06:52
alescojoshisscifi:  Only other wierd thing is when I plug in a usb mouse, the network goes down.06:52
joshisscifialesco: that I have no idea about06:52
CookieNinjaTuxOtaku, games are still very much something u gotta pay for :P i certainly didnt mind paying for UT2004 anyway .. and now i got a mod that gives u a game that looks like a 3d alienbreed from amiga days (not played it yet tho)06:53
nickruddocsquale, do you have some other imap running06:53
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nickruddocsquale, sudo netstat -tlp is useful06:53
Goldfischirc: unload/reload modules and get the output just like last time.06:53
alescojoshisscifi:  what wireless card do you have ?06:53
Dave|idso even with the headers installed i still have no version.h file06:53
adtheratHmm.. updated, finally and now I seem to lost my background.06:53
irci guessed that wanted to be sure,06:53
joshisscifialesco: dell wireless 147006:53
docsqualenickrud, not that I can find.  However, I have gone though 2 installations of various cyrus and one of another flavor (can't recall the name), so there's likely residual cruft around somewhere.   may need to reboot06:53
doogluscan you set GNOME up so you don't have to click on windows to be able to type in them?06:54
dooglusI want to be able to just point with the mouse06:54
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DanglyBitsanyone here running enlightenment?06:54
nickruddocsquale, try the netstat, then ps -aux ; that should show any running processes that might be on that port06:54
CookieNinjayes, dooglus, goto system -> preferences -> windows ... oddly enough :P06:55
Madpilotdooglus: I think so - try System-Prefs-windows06:55
Dave|idcrimsun: linux-headers-2.6.12-9-686 is already the newest version.06:55
ircok did the commands will try tvtime again06:55
ircno errors06:55
_jahshua-can someone please give me the link for ubuntu source o matic06:55
adtheratBeing fairly new to Ubuntu and Linux in general, I'm not even sure where to start looking. History: I've just upgraded from hoary to breezy and rebooted.06:55
docsqualenickrud, I can't find anything on 993 (or 143?).06:55
Madpilot!sources06:55
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource06:55
Goldfischirc: Send me the dmesg | grep bttv output again.06:55
Madpilot!easysource06:55
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:55
crimsunDave|id: what are you attempting?06:56
ircok still cant open capture device06:56
alescojoshisscifi:  I'm using a toshiba with a built in intel ipw2200,  still trying to get it working though.  thanks.06:56
_jahshua-Madpilot: thanks06:56
DanglyBitsanyone here running enlightenment for a windows manager?06:56
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Dr_WillisDanglyBits,  :P Ugh. lol06:56
CookieNinjaadjacent, i would recommend that you just keep getting used to what applications you need to do stuff and forget about diving in deeper for now, except when you have to06:56
Dr_WillisDanglyBits,  people seem to try out Enlightment.. but rarely 'use' it.06:56
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dylan_how do i further secure my ubuntu linux machine?06:56
Madpilot_jahshua-: np - just for future reference, you can always pm the bot: /msg ubotu <whatever>06:56
joshisscifialesco: there are lots of topics on the ipw2200 on various forums, just google "ipw2200 on ubuntu" and you'll get tons06:56
Goldfischirc: BTW, I added another external link to my BTTV article, which points to a German web page. It has tons of pictures of all the Brooktree cards, including information. Takes a while to load, though.06:56
CarlFKdylan_: turn it off ;)06:57
irchttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/678306:57
alescojoshisscifi:  Thanks.  I'm now off to google....06:57
dooglusMadpilot: I can't find it.  Are you sure it's on preferences?06:57
CarlFKdylan_: ubuntu is very secure by default.06:57
Madpilotdylan_: you could always run Bastille on it...06:57
Dr_Willisdylan_,   depends on what you want to do with it I guess..  what you are paranoid about.06:57
polpakdylan_: in what ways do you imagine yourself to be vulnerable?06:57
adtheratLooking at my Desktop Background Preference, it shows two Wallpaper, and says "PNG image, 0 pixels x 0 pixels"06:57
ircis that link on the wiki06:57
Dr_WillisIs bastille still around? heh - havent heard about that in ages06:57
Goldfischirc: Yes.06:57
nickruddocsquale, we're getting into rarified air for me. I'm not much of a network listening type app expert06:57
ircso aitech is brooktree not zoran?06:57
Dave|idcrimsun: getting High Definition Audio (HDA) with the Realtek ALC 880 chipset working in 5.10.    it happens when i run /configure --with-oss=yes --with-cards=hda-intel --with-kernel=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686/         it comes back saying version.h is not there, even though everything else in the folder looks fine06:57
Madpilotdooglus: System-Prefs-Windows - top check box is "Select windows when mouse rolls over them"06:58
docsqualenickrud,  ok, no worries. will shutdown and reboot in the morning and investigate with clearer eyes.  thanks06:58
dooglusMadpilot: look: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/prefs.png06:58
CookieNinjaalso, adjacent, open synaptic and click on the sections button so that you can browse what programs you can download according to sections like music/multimedia etc ... that might help you stumble across useful programs06:58
Goldfischirc: Brooktree is a basic chip design. Yes, you have a Zoran brand, brooktree based card.06:58
Madpilotdooglus: are you running Breezy or ???06:58
dooglusMadpilot: what's the name of the process that runs?06:58
ircoh I see06:58
dooglusMadpilot: it's dapper06:58
Goldfischirc: Is your user in the "video" group? Type "id", and see if "video" is listed anywhere.06:58
nickruddocsquale, np, dovecot works well, and, if I remember my experiments, the ssl is pretty straightforward06:59
dooglusMadpilot: but I can't believe they would have removed it06:59
docsqualenickrud, cool. thanks.06:59
Madpilotdooglus: edit your menu, I think they've hidden the Windows thing from you06:59
ircvideo is listed06:59
ajmitchdooglus: sadly it is removed, I think06:59
irc4406:59
dylan_polpak, i dont know...someone told me that linux is not secure enough by default06:59
dooglusis there an optional package I can install to get it back?06:59
polpakdylan_: that depends on what you run on it07:00
ircI bought the book Linux Toys 2 for the mythtv project  fedora 4 was unfriendly to all all multimedia07:00
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ajmitchdooglus: not that I know of, I just used gconf-editor to change what I wanted07:00
dooglusdylan_: do you come here regularly asking exactly the same question over and over again/07:00
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Harimwakairiwhere's the best place to find themes and so forth?07:00
_jahshua-whats the command to bring up my sources list in a text editor ?07:00
ircI really like ubuntu community07:00
Madpilotdooglus: file a bug about it! :P07:00
crimsunDave|id: I'll walk you through the preferred way of doing it.07:00
psusiCookieNinja, there are no open ports by default07:00
dylan_dooglus, im hoping for a more accurate answer07:00
Madpilot!tell Harimwakairi about themes07:00
dylan_dooglus, ill stop...sry07:00
crimsunDave|id: first, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential gcc-3.4 module-assistant07:01
Dave|idcrimsun, ok07:01
polpakCookieNinja: if you know enough to install/setup a daemon process. You should know enough to set up your firewall rules07:01
CookieNinjapsusi, read what i said .. i said they open like leaks as users install applications that open ports .. as each of those is not updated regular (esp if user is on dialup) there's potential risks, real ones07:01
polpakCookieNinja: and if you install apache.. Chances  are you want port 80 open07:01
HarimwakairiMadpilot, is that such a banal question that you have a macro set up?  If so, I apologize.  :)07:01
Dave|idcrimsun, linux-headers-2.6.12-9-686 is already the newest version.07:01
Dave|idbuild-essential is already the newest version.07:01
Dave|idgcc-3.4 is already the newest version.07:01
Dave|idE: Couldn't find package module-assistant07:01
MadpilotHarimwakairi: not a macro, just a bot - ubotu07:01
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_jahshua-whats the command to bring up my sources list in a text editor ?07:01
Goldfischirc: Go and checkout this file: /etc/modutils/aliases. Try "grep char-major-81 /etc/modutils/aliases"07:02
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polpakDave|id: don't paste in here pls07:02
polpakDave|id: use pastebin07:02
psusiif you install apache, it's because you WANT port 80 open07:02
Madpilot_jahshua-: in a terminal: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list07:02
iKernelWhy doesn't anybody read the topic?07:02
iKernel!paste07:02
ubotuhmm... paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text07:02
Dave|idok07:02
Dave|idsorry07:02
_jahshua-Madpilot: thanks07:02
Madpilot!tell Harimwakairi about ubotu07:02
Dave|iddid not know07:02
crimsunDave|id: the universe repository must be enabled.07:02
CookieNinjapsusi, and what happens when a user doesn't update it and that port 80 the user wants open is running an app with a remotely exploitable vuln ?07:03
iKernelDave|id: It's alright. All you have to do to prevent confusions like this is read the topic.07:03
psusiCookieNinja, same thing that happens when the user accidently does a sudo rm -fr /07:03
ircsays no such file07:03
psusiyou shoot yourself in the foot because you're stupid, it is your own fault...07:03
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polpakCookieNinja: you can't protect bad administrators from themselves07:03
MadpilotCookieNinja: if you install Apache, hopefully you'll undertake to learn some basic security stuff...07:03
dooglusMadpilot: can you find out what the process is called please?  when you run the 'windows' configuration program, what extra process gets run?07:04
psusiyou chose to open the port... if you chose to open the port, you'd also choose to disable the firewall if it was on by default... ubuntu provides automatic security updates easily enough07:04
Madpilotdooglus: just a sec07:04
CookieNinjaI just think that a firewall should be on by default and when u install an app it modifies the firewall appropiately07:04
iKernelpsusi: Being stupid isn't one's fault.07:04
dooglusMadpilot: thanks07:04
polpakCookieNinja: which is the same as not having the firewall in the first place07:04
psusiCookieNinja, then the firewall may as well not be there now would it?07:04
PuMpErNiCkLeCookieNinja: And that would make a difference how?07:04
polpakCookieNinja: so why bother?07:05
Madpilotdooglus: it looks like it's "gnome-window-pr07:05
PuMpErNiCkLenlol07:05
psusiiKernel, that's my point07:05
Dave|idcrimsun, just update and uppgrade now07:05
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dooglusMadpilot: "ps -wwwef | grep gnome-window-pr"07:05
Dave|idcrimsun, will let you know when complete07:05
GoldfischGuys, does ubuntu use "modutils" package, or "module-init-tools"?07:05
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crimsunGoldfisch: the latter07:05
iKernel<psusi> you shoot yourself in the foot because you're stupid, it is your own fault...07:05
ajmitchCookieNinja: such as https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoC-Firewall ?07:05
psusiiKernel, ohh... you said it isn't?  what are you on crack?07:05
dooglusoh, it'll be 'properties', right.  thanks.07:05
Madpilotdooglus: gnome-window-properties?07:05
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ki4iklHi07:06
Dave|idcrimsun, all done07:06
Dave|idcrimsun, next step?07:06
iKernelpsusi: Nope.07:06
psusiif you shoot yourself in the foot, it is nobody's fault but your own07:06
ki4iklum...where can i get a list off all the cams compatible with linux07:06
garryToo many ways to shoot your foot off its hard to avoid sometimes.07:06
crimsunDave|id: module-assistant is now installed, too?07:06
GoldfischDarn. I am trying to help irc troubleshoot his video card, but my only video system is debian64. It uses the older system, so I can't get the ubuntu info for him.07:06
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Madpilotdooglus: yes, that's the one - and do file a bug if it's not anywhere in Dapper's menus!07:06
Dave|idcrimsun, yes07:06
crimsunDave|id: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.10-3_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i alsa-source_1.0.10-3_all.deb07:06
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iKernelpsusi: Being stupid is the result of not paying attention in classes. Not paying attention in classes is the result of friends annoying you.07:06
ircmaybe I can help the search07:07
ircis Seveas on?07:07
PuMpErNiCkLehttp://www.cs.bgu.ac.il/~omri/Humor/shoot.html  <---- the many many ways you can shoot yourself in the foot07:07
dooglusadtherat: running "gnome-window-properties" from the dapper command line brings up the window.  it's just missing from the menu07:07
psusiiKernel, no... being uninformed is the result of not paying attention in class... being stupid is not caring enough to bother paying attention in class07:07
garryiKernel hehe07:07
dooglusMadpilot: that's what you said 10 minutes ago, right :)07:07
Goldfischirc: Ah ha...check /etc/modprobe.d/aliases instead of /etc/modutils/aliases.07:07
iKernelpsusi: hmm k07:07
ircok07:07
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GoldfischTurns out I have both. Probably updated at some point, and left behind distracting relics. :)07:08
iKernelpsusi: Let's inject people with medicene that makes them permantly care.07:08
CookieNinjaajmitch, indeed, i think that page kinda makes my point for me07:08
ajmitchCookieNinja: it might be in dapper07:08
CookieNinjaoo, that's good then :-)07:08
psusiiKernel, why bother? they are entitled to be stupid... I'm busy doing other things and if we did that, who would take out the trash? ;)07:08
irchttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/678407:08
ircthis is what the file looks like07:09
adtheratdooglus, er, that's not what the problem, I'm having. What I'm having is that the pictures for the background is being displayed as 0 by 0 pixels07:09
_jahshua-whats the command to get the gpg key for cypherpunk to get codecs and such  ?07:09
ircim still looking for the photos of the tv cards....i found a picture of my card at the aitech site though07:09
Madpilotdooglus: yeah, but it needs saying - if they're leaving basic stuff off the Dapper menus for some odd reason, it's a bug! :P07:09
DShepherdmondi: is esd the default audio thingy for dapper?07:09
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iKernelpsusi: k07:10
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crimsunDShepherd: no; it's not the default in Breezy, either.07:10
_jahshua-!restricted formats07:10
ubotu[restricted formats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'07:10
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_jahshua-whats the command to get the gpg key for cypherpunk to get codecs and such  ?07:10
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CookieNinjahas esd got anything over alsa ? (assuming i have it right that they do the same job)07:10
crimsunCookieNinja: esd relies on alsa [or oss/free]  to get the job done.07:11
Goldfischirc: I don't know. It appears you have char-major-81, which defines the /dev/video0 device. I'm not sure what to do now.07:11
CookieNinjaooo ok, so what does it do that's worthwhile, crimsun ?07:11
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psusiiKernel, I just saw on the news tonight that the gov't has decided to force banks to charge higher minimum monthly payments on credit cards because too many people are stupid and only make the minimum payments, which results in them paying huge interest over 40 years07:11
Dave|idcrimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/678507:11
UncleDWhat is the best way to install PHP 5.1.1 on ubuntu?07:11
psusiyou can't legislate people to not be stupid07:11
ircchar-major-81 indicates what to me?07:11
drcodecan I tell ssh client to insert password automticly?07:11
crimsunDave|id: ``sudo apt-get -f install''07:12
chet--does anyone here have wpa2 working?07:12
ki4iklcan i get a suggestion for a router that will work well with ubuntu?07:12
psusidrcode, no, but you can set up ssh to authenticate using RSA keypairs instead of passwords, which can happen automatically07:12
crimsunchet--: I do w/ AES and WPA-PSK07:12
psusiki4ikl, any one you like07:12
ircis that the driver or is bttv the driver?07:12
Goldfischirc: look at ls -l /dev/video0. It represents a device file, representing a hook into the kernel. In this case, the bttv kernel module is supposed to link up your TV card to that device file for interaction. Something isn't working.07:12
DShepherdcrimsun: what is?07:12
chet--crimsun, ipw2200?07:12
_jahshua-whats the command to get the gpg key for cypherpunk to get codecs and such  ?07:13
drcodek07:13
drcodethanx07:13
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garrySaw a sig that said "Don't worry bout stupidity, just remove the warning labels and let the problem take car of itself." Not that I think anyone here is stupid.07:13
crimsunDShepherd: alsa directly07:13
drcodeI need to make rsa in ssh server?07:13
DShepherdcrimsun: thanks07:13
ircenter syntax "ls -l /dev/video0" ?07:13
Dave|idcrimsun, Ok that finished fine07:13
crimsunchet--: driver, yes [2195abg chipset] 07:13
Goldfischirc: yeah.07:13
chet--crimsun, dapper or breezy?07:13
adtheratlooks like I will have to just some odd desktop colours instead of the wallpaper, since there's nothing there for the wallpaper07:13
irccrw-rw----  1 root video 81, 0 2006-01-07 22:54 /dev/video007:14
crimsunchet--: the former, though it works in the latter, too07:14
UncleDAnyone here familiar with this? http://people.debian.org/~dexter/dists/php5.1/php5.1_5.1.1-0.1~breezy1/07:14
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Goldfischirc: If you scan that /etc/modprobe.d/aliases, you will find an entry for char-major-81 videodev. char is the "c", and 81 is the major value of /dev/vidoe0.07:14
crimsunDave|id: good, now ``sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source''. Choose "yes" for both plugn'play support and debugging symbols, then deselect "all" and choose "hda-intel".07:14
madehello all..07:14
chet--crimsun, im just installed dapper flt2, i installed wpa_sup, and i have my config right, i think, is there anything funky you had to do?07:15
ircHmmm I read that file and saw that entry07:15
chet--like in breezy install firmware and other drivers?07:15
ki4iklwhere can i get a list off some cams compatible with v4l?07:15
crimsunchet--: which AP are you using w/ which firmware version?07:15
ajmitchchet--: no, but you probably have to use -Dwext rather than -Dipw07:15
chet--linksys v5, 1.0.307:15
ajmitchchet--: what problems are you having?07:15
ircI would hate to go back to the windows box just for tv07:15
pansonicis there a "frontpage" equivalent for ubuntu07:15
_jahshua-anyone know??07:15
_jahshua-whats the command to get the gpg key for cypherpunk to get codecs and such  ?07:16
madeis anybody up for some troubleshooting of booting ntfs partitions?07:16
DShepherddoes anyone know, if possible, how to take a screenshot of drop down menus from the task bar?07:16
chet--i had it working in breezy after hefty config work, then updated kernel to 2.6.12-10 and all my work was lost07:16
Goldfischirc: You may to do some more homework. I am out of ideas. Besides, I need to check out and get some sleep.07:16
PuMpErNiCkLemade: sure07:16
Dave|idcrimsun, yes, that part is done07:16
ircok...07:16
PuMpErNiCkLemade: What's the problem?07:16
crimsunchet--: I presume you edited /etc/default/wpasupplicant and /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf?07:16
irci will read you wiki07:16
chet--i installed, updates wpa.conf and run the command, but it just says "daemonize", i can then fo into wpa_cli but it looks ofr AP07:16
jaredhow do I add a user to the admin group from the terminal?07:16
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ircty07:16
madeok.. I'm a complete noob with it comes to ubuntu linux.. and I'm also noobish when it comes to irc.. but anyways..07:17
chet--crimsun, there are 2? i only changed /etc/wpasupplicant.conf07:17
crimsunDave|id: now ``sudo module-assistant a-i alsa-source''07:17
crimsunchet--: yes, there are07:17
chet--crimsun- THANKS MAN, ill lok into that now!07:17
madeI installed ubuntu on a primary slave drive to my primary master winxp drive07:17
madehow can I get grub to see the mbr on the winxp prim. master?07:17
_jahshua-whats the command to get the gpg key for cypherpunk to get codecs and such  ?07:18
crimsun_jahshua-: aren't instructions given on that web site?07:18
Dave|idcrimsun, yes that is done,07:18
PuMpErNiCkLemade: It should've been auto-detected when you installed... are you sure it's not in the list of options Grub gives you when you boot?07:18
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PuMpErNiCkLemade: In my experience, at least, WinXP is reliably detected.07:19
_jahshua-Crimsun i dont see them, ill keep looking07:19
chet--crimsun, is this /etc/default/wpa file necessary if i start it manually?07:19
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crimsunDave|id: now pastebin the output from ``cat /proc/asound/{cards,version}''07:19
_jahshua-crimsun sorry ignore me07:19
DaSkreechDShepherd: Offtopic07:19
chet--cause it looks like it only pertasins to deamon07:19
madein grub it shows 2 different kernel versions of linux. with recovery modes as well.. and memtest8607:19
DaSkreechDShepherd: how much do you think You have learned since you started to use Linux vs using windows?07:19
crimsunchet--: no, but it's a Really Good Idea.07:19
chet--crimsun, yeah, im still starting it by hand for troubleshooting07:19
chet--looks like i have other issuyes07:20
Dave|idcrimsun, asound is not a directory07:20
madeI concur07:20
crimsunDave|id: lsmod|grep ^snd_hda_intel07:20
DShepherdDaSkreech: Well I have learnt lots.. about Linux :-D07:20
SweetestSavageDoes anyone know how to remove the "HTTP Cache Cleaner" in amaroK?07:20
DaSkreechDShepherd: Nothing about software in general07:20
PuMpErNiCkLemade: Okay, I'll write out a grub meu entry that should work for you...07:20
PuMpErNiCkLe*menu07:20
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madeok.. awesome..07:21
ajmitchchet--: starting it with debugging on?07:21
madedo you want to post it on #flood?07:21
chet--sudo wpa_supplicant -B -i eth1 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -D ipw -w -dd07:21
ajmitchchet--: take out the -B07:21
DShepherdDaSkreech: hmmm a bit more.. but my knowledge is still limited though.. but its getting there07:21
Dave|idcrimsun, Sorry, i should've told you this earlier. When i try and boot up with the sound card enabled in the bios i get stuck on the startup screen saying " Starting hotplug subsystem"   but when i disable the soundcard in the bios the system boots fine.07:21
DaSkreechCool07:21
DShepherddoes anyone know, if possible, how to take a screenshot of drop down menus from the task bar?07:21
crimsunchet--: don't use -Dipw; use -Dwext07:22
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irchow do I look and see if tv time is looking at the right video card?07:22
Dave|idcrimsun, so currently it is turned off in the bios07:22
chet--crimsun, thanks, that gave me lots of info, so it will take me a litle while07:22
chet--crimsun, ok07:22
ajmitchthat too, iirc I said that before..07:22
adtheratIs there anyone who would know where to start looking at fixing this problem?07:23
crimsunDave|id: so you've run into #15031. Reboot now, reenable the sound chipset in BIOS, and continue into Ubuntu.07:23
Dave|idcrimsun, #15031?07:23
crimsunDave|id: the bugzilla bug I was tracking for Breezy.07:24
wolfmaniacmplayer askin for gcc 2.5 where to find it07:24
bobcathi everyone... newbie here and cann't seem to get mplayer to play a dvd movie correctly.  I get sound, and a picture, but it is all scrambled.  I followed the ubuntu starter guide with installing the right codecs and stuff.  I did notice in mplayer there is a videio codec family.. what should i set this to?07:24
PuMpErNiCkLemade: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/678607:24
gerald-volthow do I add a windows xp printer ?07:25
PuMpErNiCkLemade: run 'sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst' and add that in the section with the linux boot entries.07:25
tr011bobcat, do you have the w32codecs ? also try installing totem-xine makes totem works grate,07:25
Madpilotgerald-volt: is the printer hooked up to another machine that runs XP?07:25
dooglusDShepherd: did you find out?07:26
gerald-voltyessum07:26
chet--crimsun, just to clarify, i shouldnt need to install any of the other stuff l;ike in breezy (firmware, 80211, driver, etc..07:26
chet--)?07:26
madewhere in that list though. I would guess that it should be somewhere below linux partitions?07:26
bobcattr011:  yes i did download the w32codecs07:26
UncleDDoes anyone here use php 5.1.1 on ubuntu???07:26
crimsunchet--: you don't need to do anything besides edit those two files07:26
tim__is there a linux partitioning program with a gui?07:26
Madpilotgerald-volt: ah, OK - you can do that w/ CUPS, I've read, but I've got no idea of details...07:26
dooglusDShepherd: I do it using an alias called "snap".  I run "sleep 5; snap" or some such.07:26
gerald-voltk, i'll look it up07:26
gerald-voltthanks07:26
dooglusDShepherd: the alias is like this:    alias snap='snap=~/Documents/Screenshot-$(date | sed "s/  */-/g").png; import -window root $snap; echo $snap'07:26
adtheratubotu, I don't yet but I plan to when I can use the desktop comfortabley07:27
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, adtherat07:27
Dave|idcrimsun, will restart and join back here07:27
gerald-voltok07:27
gerald-voltheard about cups07:27
adtheratUncleD,  I don't yet but I plan to when I can use the desktop comfortabley07:27
gerald-voltbut I have no idea how you go into the cups http setup without having the admin account07:27
PuMpErNiCkLemade: You can put it anywhere you want, but it'll show up in position relative to the other entries, so somewhere near the top is best.07:27
tr011bobcat, and also made proves changing the video coden in preferences-> Video ?07:27
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wolfmaniacwhere to find bison07:27
UncleDI'm looking for somebody whose installed 5.1.1 PHP on ubuntu..07:27
irctvtime configuration anyone??????07:28
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doogluswolfmaniac: bison is in the standard repositories like everything else07:28
wolfmaniacgstreamer askin for bison07:28
wolfmaniacwhere to get it07:28
madePuMpErNiCkLe: ok.. Thx.. I'll let you know if that worx.. I'm sure it will.. thx for the expertise07:28
doogluswolfmaniac: it's in 'main' - so just "sudo apt-get install bison" or use synaptic07:28
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ajmitchUncleD: what about it?07:28
ajmitchUncleD: it's the current version in dapper07:28
UncleDajmitch: what do you mean by, in the dapper?07:28
bobcattr011:  this is weird...  i can play the movie in totem with a clear picture, but not in mplayer with a clear picture07:29
ajmitch!dapper07:29
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.07:29
PuMpErNiCkLemade: np :)07:29
wolfmaniacdo i have to download it07:29
bobcattr011:  don't the applications use the same codecs and stuff07:29
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UncleDajmitch. Oh i see. How do you feel about the dapper atm in its current state?07:29
_jahshua-!pastebin07:29
ubotuhmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org07:29
dooglusand after the release data, you'll still be using it at your own risk, since "Ubuntu comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law"07:29
ajmitchUncleD: it works for me, for what I do, but if you're not comfortable fixing a broken system, don't try it yet07:30
UncleDdooglus: right. Im not worried about that aspect. I just want to know how it currently runs.07:30
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UncleDajmitch: What aspects of the system are subject to breaking atm? Or have been seen to break.07:30
tr011bobcat, no, mplayer use it's own codecs... that's why some times you can't see in mplayer stuff that you can't see on totem07:30
_jahshua-can someone help me out im getting this error constantly when trying to download packages07:30
wolfmaniacpls tell me where i can find previous version of gcc07:30
_jahshua-http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/678707:30
dooglusUncleD: I've been running dapper for a few months and have had very few problems with it.07:30
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ajmitchUncleD: I think I've seen the kernel/boot process break, have heard of some X breakage07:30
Eleafdooglus, what is different?07:30
UncleDdooglus: What version are you running?07:31
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UncleDajmitch: Im just interested in using it for running bind9, lighttpd, php5.1.1 and mysql.07:31
UncleDI wont even be running x.07:31
dooglusUncleD: I'm running dapper, as it currently stands.  It's the development version.  What will be 6.0407:31
Dreamglideranyone know a good dvd to avi ripper ?07:31
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wolfmaniac pls tell me where i can find previous version of gcc07:31
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kameronanyone want to try out skype with me?07:31
UncleDdooglus: Perhaps its worth giving a shot then to it?07:31
doogluswolfmaniac: discover synaptic07:31
ubuntuheeey everyone07:32
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wolfmaniacyes discovered it07:32
madePuMpErNiCkLe: one more question about grub..07:32
UncleDdooglus: What have you noticed different about dapper07:32
doogluswolfmaniac: in the system menu, under 'administration'07:32
_jahshua-can someone help me out im getting this error constantly when trying to download packages http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/678707:32
ubuntudoes any one knows if there is an ABC manual for ubuntu07:32
PuMpErNiCkLemade: I'm listening.07:32
Sonderbladeis there a way to check which files a package install if you don't have the package installed?07:32
doogluswolfmaniac: old gcc versions are there07:32
wolfmaniacyes i did it07:32
antisepticxubuntu package site07:32
tr011bobcat, i'm not pretty shure, but i guess that totem uses gstream or xine codecs while mplayer uses it's own codecs and paths07:32
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madeI noticed the the other lines in menu.1st   had boot on the last line.. should I add that?07:32
UncleDdooglus: if you did a fresh install of dapper, what are the first few apt packages you'd install?07:32
dooglusUncleD: it seems to be faster.  there are some tacky graphic 'upgrades'.  um...07:32
wolfmaniacbut mplayer is sayin dat it cannt find it07:32
wolfmaniacneeds 2.95 something07:33
tr011wolfmaniac, mplayer is in the multiverse repository07:33
dooglusUncleD: it's got slightly newer versions of almost everything07:33
antisepticxI think you still need gstream for mp307:33
Dave|idcrimsun,07:33
Dave|idcrimsun, have rebooted07:33
PuMpErNiCkLemade: No.  (At least, I don't think so...)  Grub doesn't boot WinXP directly, it just loads the WinXP bootloader.07:33
crimsunDave|id: ok, so now I need the pastebin results from ``cat /proc/asound/{cards,version}''07:33
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ubuntuthanks07:33
Sonderblademade: it's menu.lst not menu.1st07:33
dooglusUncleD: I upgraded hoary to breezy to dapper.  I only ever did one fresh install, and that was a while ago now07:33
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antisepticxanyone know how to boot an iso off of your harddrive unsing grub?07:34
Sonderblademade: that mistake has screwed up for me many many times07:34
Dreamglideranyone know a good dvd to avi ripper please07:34
antisepticxdvd::rip07:34
_jahshua-can someone help me out im getting this error constantly when trying to download packages http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/678707:34
Dave|idcrimsun, the sound card has been enabled in the bios and it did not freeze this time. have turned the sound up but i still hear nothing07:34
madePuMpErNiCkLe: the other thing I'm curious about.. how would the bios boot on my slave and not my master?07:34
UncleDdooglus: where is the download link to dapper? If I already have breezy 5.1.1 on my box, is it easier to download an upgrade?07:35
PuMpErNiCkLemade: Uh... say what? O_o07:35
crimsunDave|id: I need ``amixer'' output, too07:35
madenvm..07:35
Dave|idcrimsun, ok07:35
madelemme check it.. be back in a few07:35
PuMpErNiCkLemade: The master boot record is still on the master.07:35
UncleDdooglus: currently I have a totally fresh install of breezy. I want to download dapper (should i get an upgrade or a full package iso?)07:35
PuMpErNiCkLemade: (If that's what you meant.)07:35
madegood good.. but how does it go straight to the slave on boot?07:36
johndarkhorseUncleD: i wouldnt recommend dapper for a production machine07:36
madethe first thing I see after post is grub07:36
UncleDjohn: hmm..07:36
PuMpErNiCkLemade: The BIOS loads teh bootloader, which is on the first section of the primary master.07:36
PuMpErNiCkLemade: In this case, that's Grub.07:37
Dave|idcrimsun, sorry, but what is the command to get the amixer output07:37
tr011by the way, how recommendable is dapper for a home desktop?07:37
ubuntuany one known which VPN clinet works with Cisco07:37
UncleDjohn: All I really want to do is upgrade to php 5.1.1 and the latest version of mysql - I was just asking the "best" way to do go about doing that.07:37
crimsunDave|id: amixer07:37
PuMpErNiCkLemade: And from Grub, you can load any operating system on any disk.07:37
kameron!dapper07:37
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.07:37
madeok.. so if I unplug the slave what happens.. cause I haven't tried that yet.. I'm sic of failure07:37
bobcatok...  i have one more newbie question...  I have a dvd burner (/dev/hdc) and a regular dvd drive (/dev/hdd).  When I put a movie int the regular dvd drive, I can play the movie with totem.  However, when I put a movie in the dvd burner drive (/dev/hdc), I first a window pop-up asking if i want to burn audio, photo, data cd.. I select cancel.  and it appears by doing that,  totem can't find the dvd to play.  I know the drive is still mo07:37
bobcatunted, but don't understand why totem isn't picking up the movie.07:37
PuMpErNiCkLemade: Grub will probably spit out an error if you try to boot linux.07:37
UncleDjohndarkhorse: any suggestions?07:38
madeok..07:38
PuMpErNiCkLemade: WinXP will still boot, though.07:38
madekool brb..07:38
antisepticxthats your problem pump.... stop xp from booting and all is well07:38
tr011antisepticx,  yes! that's right!07:39
Dave|idcrimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/678807:39
antisepticxtr011 thanku07:39
PuMpErNiCkLeantisepticx: Uh... why would you want to stop WinXP from booting?07:39
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tr011bobcat, heee... i think that is because totem is looking for the dvd only in one drive and not in both07:39
antisepticxwhy would I or why would u07:40
bkdoes anyone know an IRC channel for gtk?07:40
crimsunDave|id: slick. You need an even newer version. wget http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.10+1.0.11rc2-1_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i alsa-source_1.0.10+1.0.11rc2-1_all.deb07:40
PuMpErNiCkLeantisepticx: Why would you?07:40
irctry google dude07:40
antisepticxah, because I have no use for it07:41
UncleDdooglus: any ideas?07:41
PuMpErNiCkLeantisepticx: In that case, load (G)Parted and make the partition into /swap :)07:41
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Dave|idcrimsun, that is done07:41
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antisepticxlol07:42
crimsunDave|id: now ``sudo module-assistant a-i alsa-source'' again07:42
netstarHi, I'm finding I am getting bouts of high cpu usage from Xorg and have all drivers and settings from a previous distribution implemented.  What could be causing this?07:42
DShepherddooglus: wow.. thats .. something,.. special07:42
antisepticxI haven't used windows in aleast a year07:43
antisepticxnot that its the worst OS in the world07:43
tr011i have being hearing about people(and me) with problems with the audio sistem, about that some times one program takes all the control over the audio device, but in my shor experience i have only seen this in debian based distros, there is a way to solve this problem?07:43
antisepticxkde does that in some distros07:43
bobcattr011:  what's weird is when i am totem, and go under movie and open location of the file i want to play, I then enter the /dev/hdc (dvd burner), and it says it fails to find a mount point for the device in /etc/fstab.  However, before I open totem, i am mounting the drive when inserting the dvd in the dvd burner....07:44
netstarbob_, don't mount it07:44
Dave|idcrimsun, whoa... funky stuff07:44
netstarbobcat even07:44
crimsuntr011: ...that's not a distro-based issue but rather interaction between your hardware and ALSA07:44
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Dave|idcrimsun, will paste bin.. said something out the sound module qutting07:44
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Dave|idcrimsun, volule control has quit unexpectedly07:45
croutonanybody seen the cdrom 'abortcommand' problem that knows a fix?07:45
crimsunthat's expected.07:45
adtheratDoes anyone have any clue on the problem I have with my wall paper?07:45
PuMpErNiCkLetr011: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206307:45
tr011hmmm.. bobcat and have you checked in your fstab that the dvd and the dvd-burner has the same rights?07:45
crimsunit's forcibly unloading and reloading the sound drivers, so anything using it will die07:45
adtheratDoes anyone have any clue on the problem I have with background*07:45
tr011PuMpErNiCkLe, thanks07:46
PuMpErNiCkLetr011: np :)07:46
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bobcattr011:  yep they have the same... it looks like this --> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       007:47
bobcattr0ll:  just the drive name is different for each one07:47
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mnohello07:47
PuMpErNiCkLehey mno07:48
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|37th|Trigger[idHello all :)07:48
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Dave|idcrimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/678907:48
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Techie_dudewhere can i get a list of the cams compatible with v4l?????????07:48
|37th|TriggerI know it's early but i was wondering if there was anyone could help me?07:48
PuMpErNiCkLe|37th|Trigger: What's your problem?07:49
crimsunDave|id: pastebin ``dmesg|tail''07:49
ircshould my bttv file indicate anything about /video0 ?07:49
DShepherdthere is abiword and abiword-gnome into the ubuntu packages. What is the difference between the two>?07:49
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cyphase;)07:49
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|37th|TriggerI'm kind of new to linux.. And whenever i boot up on linux, I just get a pixelated screen (After going through all the processes) was wondering if anyone has experianced this/Knows how to fix it07:50
Techie_dudehow messed up is dapper atm? like is it stable enough for general use?07:50
|37th|Triggeri use ubutu aswell btw :P07:50
Dave|idcrimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/679007:50
cyphaseTechie_dude, if you have to ask, don't use it07:50
Techie_dudeokay......do you know a place i can get a list of v4l compatible cameras07:51
PuMpErNiCkLe|37th|Trigger: 1) Is your monitor a CRT? 2) What kind of graphics controller do you have?07:51
|37th|Triggerpumper07:51
|37th|Triggerit wont let me pm you :(07:51
|37th|TriggerDo you have any way other than irc that i can contact you with? I really dislike irc :P07:51
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ki4iklthere07:51
PuMpErNiCkLe|37th|Trigger: Nada, sorry.07:51
|37th|Triggerhmm07:52
|37th|Triggerhow do i register (so i can pm you)07:52
irc37th trigger are you talking to me?07:52
PuMpErNiCkLe|37th|Trigger: /msg nickserv help07:52
Madpilotirc: that might not be the best nick to use, you know... :P07:52
ki4iklDoes anyone know where i can get a list of v4l cams????07:52
crimsunDave|id: please reboot07:52
Dave|idcrimsun, Ok07:52
|37th|Triggerhmm07:53
|37th|Triggeri think i've odne it xD07:53
PuMpErNiCkLe|37th|Trigger: ^_^07:53
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|37th|Triggerw00t07:53
polpak!patience07:53
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.07:53
PuMpErNiCkLeki4ikl: Does http://www.exploits.org/v4l/ help you at all?07:53
ki4ikli will look thanks07:54
ki4ikl:)07:54
irchow do change nick again?07:54
PuMpErNiCkLeki4ikl: np :)07:54
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cyphaseHow to tell the difference betwen Web 1.0 and Web 2.0 - http://mpt.net.nz/archive/2005/12/27/web-207:54
PuMpErNiCkLeirc: /nick newname07:54
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irchello07:54
amicrawlerhow come in kde the menu get very big and wide how do i shrink it back to default?07:54
ircdoesnt want to workl07:54
irc /nick meme07:54
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insertnewnamethere07:55
PuMpErNiCkLeinsertnewname: lol!07:55
insertnewnamenobody does tv here07:55
insertnewname?07:55
insertnewnamewouldnt take anything else07:55
RuffianSoldierHas anyone got SLi to work in Ubuntu?07:55
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Dave|idcrimsun, I'm back07:56
alan__how do you make the firefox download from mozilla executable? which file do you chmod?07:56
Dave|idcrimsun, will pastebin you the output of amixer07:57
crimsunDave|id: ok.07:57
ki4iklthankyou07:58
netstarwhat version of xfce is currently in the ubuntu universe?07:59
PuMpErNiCkLenetstar: Dapper or Breezy?08:00
netstarBreezy08:00
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PuMpErNiCkLenetstar: 4.2.208:01
netstarthanks08:02
PuMpErNiCkLenp :)08:02
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lostbluri found a really annoying trait in firefox which only affects linux install. i do adminitrsation of user for a forum of mine. and its user form always seem sto grab MY user name logins and over write them a-la auto complete. has anyone encountered this? is it firefox fault or gnome profile managin or what?08:02
sklavhwy guya ia thwrw aomewhere else i can get the w32codecs?08:02
sklav!w32codecs08:02
ubotuhmm... w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install08:03
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FlannelKinganyone know what one has to do to enable external connections from mysql?08:04
Dave|idcrimsun, sorry for the delay, my pci wifi card just dropped out, had to force a dhclient and down it a few times for it to come back up. will pastebin amixer now08:04
DShepherdanyone can recommend a good program that i can use which will allow me to record my desktop as a movie?08:04
Dave|idcrimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/679208:05
netstarPuMpErNiCkLe, how did you find that out?08:05
PuMpErNiCkLenetstar: I just checked in Synaptic.08:05
netstarty08:05
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crimsunDave|id: for i in Surround Center LFE; do amixer sset '$i' on; done08:07
|37th|Triggerheh08:07
crimsunDave|id: then use a mixer like Volume Control to adjust those volumes.08:07
|37th|Triggerhmm08:07
|37th|Triggercant find the last dude who i was just talking too :(08:07
Dave|idcrimsun, i must have missed a message?08:07
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crimsunDave|id: no, you haven't.08:07
PuMpErNiCkLe^_^08:08
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crimsunDave|id: I told you what to type into a terminal.08:08
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Dave|idit joh08:08
adtheratdarn that background08:08
Dave|idunable to fix simple control '$1' ,008:08
GTroy!repos08:08
Dave|idfind not fix**08:08
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource08:08
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Techie_dude, where is a place i can find info about video for linux cams?08:09
Dave|idcrimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/679308:09
Techie_dudei lost the link someone in here gave me08:09
eDRoaCHive spent about 2 weeks casually trying to install 5.1008:09
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eDRoaCH2 cd roms (a dvd and a tdk burner), 2 hds (both known good 30 and 40gb wd) and 2 video cards (nvidia 5900 and onboard intel 815) and 3 diff burns (2 of install 1 of live, never have any other trouble burning cds)08:11
eDRoaCHand i still get package verification errors08:11
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ki4iklwhat is the link someone gave me earlier08:11
ki4ikli lost it and need it really badh08:11
DShepherdanyone can recommend a good program that i can use which will allow me to record my desktop as a movie?08:11
ki4iklugh08:12
eDRoaCHDShepherd: http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/08:12
adtheratI don't mean to be annoying, but I can't see anyone responding to my query.08:13
eDRoaCHthats ok, no1 answers mine either08:13
Dave|idcrimsun, i had to go into "Volume Control" > "File" > "Change Device" where there are two options, the first option is "HDA Alsa Intel mixer" and the 2nd option is Realtek ALC880 (OSS Mixer)   I selected option 2 and now i have sound!08:13
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crimsun_Dave|id: sorry, connection problems.08:13
adtheratI do understand that a problem with the background isn't that important, but when you spend hours at a computer, you do want a good screen to look at.08:13
crimsun_Dave|id: I forgot to quote the 's08:14
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crimsun_Dave|id: that needs to be for i in Surround Center LFE; do amixer sset \'$i\' on; done08:14
Dave|idcrimsun, i had to go into "Volume Control" > "File" > "Change Device" where there are two options, the first option is "HDA Alsa Intel mixer" and the 2nd option is Realtek ALC880 (OSS Mixer)   I selected option 2 and now i have sound!08:14
EleafHi08:14
eDRoaCHwell i cant get ubuntu to install, but i cant imagine its that hard to change a background08:14
cyphasehas anyone noticed how a lot of programs are starting to use the the Tomboy web pages design?08:14
cyphasehttp://www.beatniksoftware.com/tomboy/08:14
crimsun_Dave|id: ok, whatever works for you.08:15
eDRoaCHi think i had an old live cd of ubuntu and it had some hideous red back by default08:15
crimsun_Dave|id: I'd appreciate the output from amixer regardless08:15
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Dave|idcrimsun, yeah i did above, hold on, will find it08:15
Dave|idDave|id crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/679308:15
eDRoaCHchanging backgrounds in linux is pretty much the same as windows, r click on desktop and change it08:15
crimsun_Dave|id: no, not the old amixer values. The new ones after you selected OSS mixer.08:16
Dave|idcrimsun, ok, will do08:16
adtherateDRoaCH, I can change the background, what I'm saying is that the background doesn't show up. And it's telling me that a PNG is 0 by 0 pixels08:17
Dave|idcrimsun, so you want me to set the volume control back on alsa and give you amixer?08:17
crimsun_Dave|id: no, leave the controls as is. Just open a terminal and type amixer08:17
GTroyanyone know of any 3rd party repositories?08:17
adtheratAll I'm seeing is a solid colour and not the ubutuntu sexy Lagoon08:18
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XahurMorning08:19
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XahurMy Ubuntu discs just arrived :)08:19
i-nodeguys, i'd like to ask if there's any way i can get package CDs for ubuntu- cant download them over the web- max speed down here in the maldives is about 5 kbps :(08:20
Xahuri-node wait a moment08:20
crimsun_i-node: shipit.ubuntu.com08:20
Xahur^    ^08:20
woodgrainpo po out here, 5-0!08:20
i-nodecrimsun_: - just got my 5 cd's :)08:20
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i-nodebut i cant do the tux-marketing unless i have cool apps to show off :(08:20
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woodgraincrimsun_,  I sed the 5-0 ... po-lice up in this piece.08:21
Xahuri-node, what do you mean then? The packages from synaptic?08:21
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XahurWell.. I gotta watch sg1.. Taped it the other day, havent had time to watch it yet..08:22
i-nodeyeah...a lot of the packages are for downloading - so i am unable to install 'em...ok, its too early to speak, i havent installed ubuntu fully-frontal- just running 'em on live-cds....but i was thinking- how many packages would the install-cd have *-*08:22
scan someone help me install this ? http://optusnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/atmelwlandriver/atmelwlandriver-3.4.1.1.tar.bz208:22
Xahurwell.. i HHD'ed it.. Tapes are no use without a tape recorder..08:22
DiogoSoigostaria de saber um canal aqui do estado de mato grosso BRAZIL?08:23
s(i'm a newbie)08:23
DiogoSoialguem pode me informar08:23
Xahuri-node, about the same as the live.. Im afraid, I dont know of anywhere to order the packages on a cd :(08:23
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XahurIf you know some1 with faster internet, perhaps you could ask if you could bring your computer to their place?08:24
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Dave|idpastebin is running slow? or it just me08:24
crimsun_Dave|id: just use another pastebin, like pastebin.ca08:24
DiogoSoihelp?08:24
XahurWell.. Im gonna be afk for a lil while..08:24
i-nodeXahur: - i have some friends at the local ISP who can do the downloading for me- i was just checking whether if i had another way- anywhos, once i get the CD's i'll download more ubuntu CDs and distribute them around :)08:24
XahurDiogoSoi, perhaps if you ask in english, people will understand..08:25
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woodgrainhow do I install the newest Tom Ridge?08:25
Xahuri-node, you should do that :) Ubuntu is a nice system.. I have allready given away 6 of the cd's i got.. Too bad it didnt exactly work perfectly on any of my computers.. Or I would still be using it meself.. Maybe the next release :)08:26
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jadewolfkameron, you still here?08:26
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|37th|Triggerheh08:27
|37th|Triggeri've got loads of cd's to give to my friends :P08:27
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DiogoSoiso sei falar potuguese brazil08:27
|37th|Triggernot working too well on my system though.08:27
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XahurUbuntu just didnt like my wlan card.. It wanted to turn it off after a few hours..08:28
jadewolfanyone else here use Nvidia video cards with ubuntu? I did the apt-get install nvidia-glx but I don't seem to have it running when xorg starts up.  xorg.conf as the vesa driver running and was wondering what I should change that too08:28
XahurBut a heavily modified XP Pro seems to actually work.. I got the laptop free since it was broken.. Boss couldnt get xp pro to work on it after replacing the broken hdd..08:28
McSohow do i compile a kernel module in ubuntu?08:29
McSoor how di get the kernel source... is it in the ubuntu cd? if so how do i install it?08:29
XahurDiogoSoi, if you want help, I suggest you ask your questions in english, friend..08:30
crimsun_McSo: you install linux-headers-$(uname -r), gcc-3.4, and build-essential08:30
McSocan you tell me what to type exactly crimsun_? sorry.. i'm new to linux08:30
Dave|idcrimsun_,08:30
XahurWell.. I'm off to the Stargate :)08:30
Dave|idcrimsun_, http://pastebin.ca/3616008:30
Dave|idcrimsun_, they are amixer results from both OSS and HDA Intel08:30
cyphasethere's an NPR podcast episode called "Windows: A Clear Danger to Birds"08:31
cyphasehttp://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5076012&ft=1&f=100708:31
crimsun_Dave|id: right, they shouldn't differ, and they don't. The results are as I expected. Thanks.08:31
cyphasewho'll figure it out :P08:31
Dave|idcrimsun_, do you have those instructions on the web anywhere, so when i rebuild this machine i can get my sound working again?08:32
crimsun_McSo: ``sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential gcc-3.4''08:32
sklavwhats a nice software other than gtkpod to sync my ipod to linux?08:32
crimsun_Dave|id: I can put them in a factoid08:32
McSothanks08:33
McSoit says it couldn't find package gcc-3.4 ..08:33
cyphaseanyone? :)08:34
Dave|idcrimsun_, if you could that would be fantastic. If you need any specs or anything from my machine just ask. I am more than wlling to help you out with your bugzilla problem08:35
lsuactiafneram pondering, do anyone know if anybody has been prosecuted in south-africa for sharing copyrighted content like movies before?08:37
crimsun_McSo: you need to have the main repository enabled.08:37
sklavcyphase, yes get tinted glasses08:37
McSocrimsun_: sorry.. how do i do that?08:37
sklavor play loud music08:37
crimsun_Dave|id: #15031 has already been resolved.08:37
sklavthat should save the birds08:37
crimsun_!tell McSo about repos08:37
sklav;08:37
sklav:)08:37
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McSothanks08:37
Mr_Molezcan some 1 give me a link to the faq to update to dapper08:37
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crimsun_Dave|id: I've placed instructions in the "alsa-source" factoid. /msg ubotu alsa-source08:38
cyphasesklav, no :)08:38
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woodgrainMr_Molez, how did that install go earlier?  Get it working?08:38
cyphasesklav, windows as in the OS08:38
Mr_Moleznah :(08:38
cyphasebirds as in penguins as in linux08:38
cyphase:P08:38
bonekrackerSorry if that has been answered - I'm a noob.   When I use Totem (in browser or stand-alone), it complains: "Totem could not play 'fd://0'.  ... need plugins, etc.08:39
bonekrackerbut apt-get says it can't find them08:39
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Xahur"A Penguin A Day Keepsm Windows Away"08:40
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sklavcyphase, i understood that much08:40
Dave|idcrimsun_, Thank you so much for your time and help! if you ever in brisbane i'll buy you a beer08:40
sklavbut the article is genuine08:40
sklavhehe08:40
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crimsun_Dave|id: np08:40
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Mr_Molezanyone ?08:41
Mr_Molezargh after falling in love with gentoo its hard to live with a system like this :(08:42
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sklavgentoo?08:42
Mr_Molezyeh08:42
sklavi was just compiling it for the last 2 days08:43
Mr_Molezhaha08:43
liableMr_Molez: so continue to use gentoo..08:43
sklavi dont think its that great08:43
McSoargh08:43
Mr_Molezliable: i really dont wanna wait days :P08:43
crimsun_Mr_Molez: sudo sed s/breezy/dapper/ -i /etc/apt/sources.list08:43
_ldy_Mr_Molez: gentoo and ubuntu and debian are all linux :P08:43
sklav2 days to get X kde and xine working08:43
Mr_Molezcrimsun_: cheers :D08:43
iKernelDoes gentoo even have a package manager?08:43
sklavand the speed tweaks08:43
evaderBreezy is the current release yes? But what is the next one on its way, the tetsing/unstable one? Is it worth using that at all?08:43
crimsun_Mr_Molez: and realize that you will be running the development branch. You are responsible for screwing things up.08:43
Mr_Molez_ldy_: yeh but gentoo uses a nice packaging system so nice and simple08:43
McSocrimsun_: this requires an internet connection right? I don't have one.. I'm actually trying to install my wireless lancard on ubuntu but i've been uncessful08:43
McSounsucessful*08:43
sklavi like it dont get me wrong but  im a compiling freak08:44
Mr_Molezcrimsun_: yeh i love to live on the edge08:44
crimsun_McSo: yes08:44
Mr_Molezgentoo has the best packaging system :D08:44
_ldy_Mr_Molez: But I did not want to compile and configuration everything handly.08:44
Mr_Molezanyway ill shut up now before i get kicked :P08:44
sklavMr_Molez, im not sure about that freebsd has ports system and its just as good and older08:44
sklavbut what do  i know08:45
sklavhehe08:45
McSocrimsun_: would you be able to help me install my hardware?08:45
sklavi think i had more fun with lfs08:45
sklavplus 45 minutes to get ubunut running as i wanted08:45
sklav;)08:45
Mr_Molezsklav: once its done, it rulez, never any dependency problems :D08:46
_ldy_sklav: ubuntu not ubunut :-)08:46
crimsun_McSo: not likely, as my time here is limited. What hardware is it?08:46
McSocrimsun_: it's a wireless lan card08:46
sklavMr_Molez, im dual booting at the moment08:46
sklavbecause i dont want my last 2 days to go in the can08:46
crimsun_McSo: no, I mean make & model, probably pci id, too08:46
Mr_Molezsklav: hehe08:46
sklavall im saying is new systems have their own learning curves08:46
sklavive built lfs and the rest08:47
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Mr_MolezW: Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/universe Packages08:47
Mr_Molezumm08:47
sklavpossibly installed every OS on this planet except for solaris08:47
evaderAside from Breezy, what are the next releases of ubuntu called? What is the new testing/unstable??? Is it worth using them?08:47
HappyFoolthere's probably no dapper-backports08:47
evaderplease.08:47
Mezsdapper backports dont exist yet08:47
crimsun_Mr_Molez: comment it out. We obviously don't have dapper backports yet.08:47
McSocrimsun_: NE-WUSB by Netami but when i searched for the driver it lead me to http://optusnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/atmelwlandriver/atmelwlandriver-3.4.1.1.tar.bz208:47
Mr_Molezahh ok08:47
HappyFoolevader: it's called dapper. don't use it (see crimsun's remark earlier)08:47
McSocrimsun_: so basically i think its an atmel rip off08:47
crimsun_McSo: have you confirmed that it is indeed the proper driver?08:48
McSoyes i'm pretty sure08:48
crimsun_"pretty sure" isn't good enough.08:48
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McSowell all my searches lead me to the same site08:48
McSoand when i looked up the hardware info in windows of my lan card it also had atmel in the descrption08:49
McSodescrption*08:49
crimsun_so download it and unpack it somewhere08:49
McSoyeah i've done that08:49
Mr_Molez177mb oh that aint bad :P08:49
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crimsun_McSo: do you have build-essential, linux-headers-$(uname -r), and gcc-3.4 installed?08:49
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s_spiffhey08:50
Mr_Molezanyone here play bzflag ?08:50
McSoall except gcc-3.4 .. i havn't been able to install that08:50
s_spiff I just reinstallled Ubuntu, a clean setup08:50
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McSocrimsun_: like that repository thing was useless i think? because i don't have access to the internet08:50
s_spiff wanted to know, should I follow something so for making a cleaner file management?08:50
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crimsun_McSo: then you'll have to use your current Internet access to download gcc-3.4 and its dependencies.08:50
s_spiff Last time, I found that everything was hosch posch.08:51
s_spiff anyone there?08:51
HappyFoolthe gcc-3.4 dependencies should be just gcc-3.4-base and cpp-3.4 (i.e., three .deb files to download)08:51
johndarkhorses_spiff: hosch posch ?08:51
HappyFooleverything else you need to compile kernel modules is on the install cd08:51
McSocrimsun_: ah ok08:51
s_spiff slang for mess!08:51
s_spiffatleast thats what i think its spelt like..08:52
McSoHappyFool: so.. i can get them off the cd?08:52
crimsun_don't forget binutils08:52
johndarkhorses_spiff: the file arrangement is pretty much unix standard08:52
crimsun_http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/devel/gcc-3.4  is the canonical list08:52
s_spiffumm, I kinda found it a lil messy08:52
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HappyFoolwell, i got by with only those three debs compiling my winmodem driver08:53
UncleDmysql install question: What are the essential packages to install mysql (client & server)08:53
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s_spiffwanted to know, when I download the updates, ar the packages deleted after the installation is complete?08:54
McSoi see08:54
Morrowynmorning08:54
HappyFoolthe gcc-3.4 and gcc-4.0 packages depend on the same binutils version08:54
sklavok time to go to bed08:54
sklavits 2:54Am EST for those interested ;)08:54
GrevesHello I'm having some problems here with TwinView. Can I change the second monitor's refresh rate in a gui easily? I have to restart X every time I want to change it, and manually edit the config file.08:54
johndarkhorses_spiff: they are stored locally08:54
McSocrimsun_: so basically on that site would i go and download the i386 package?08:54
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crimsun_McSo: and the dependencies, yes08:55
Mr_Molezs_spiff: look in /var/cache/apt/archives08:55
crimsun_McSo: (you already have some installed)08:55
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McSoah k08:55
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s_spiff|awayso i cant delete them?08:55
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Mr_Molezs_spiff|away: yeh u can08:55
s_spiff|away /nick s_spiff|Away08:55
s_spiff|awaythen no problem while uninstalling them right?08:56
s_spiff|awayas in i can again go to synaptic and uninstall it right?08:56
johndarkhorses_spiff|away: open a terminal and 'man apt-get' for the correct way to 'clean' them08:56
s_spiff|awayok.08:56
s_spiff|away will check it out johndarkhorse08:56
s_spiff|awaythank, ttyl ghuys, lets these updates be installed first.08:57
s_spiff|away cya08:57
johndarkhorses_spiff|away: uninstalling doesnt remove the deb that is stored, it just robs you of that programs functionality08:57
Grevescan i specify a second "Monitor" section with the proper vertsync range?08:57
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jadewolfwhat do you guys suggest for an html editor in ubuntu?08:58
johndarkhorsejadewolf: there are many. do you like text ones or wysiwyg ones?08:59
XahurI couldnt find any wysiwyg editors..08:59
jadewolfwysiwyg prefered but I started with vi along time ago08:59
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crimsun_nvu?08:59
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Eleafcafuego, hi!!09:00
Eleafhi09:00
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jadewolfjohndarkhorse, any suggestions?09:01
crimsun_I suggested nvu.09:02
crimsun_!info nvu09:02
ubotunvu: (Complete Web Authoring System), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 8349 kB, Installed size: 26468 kB09:02
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wayne_yo09:02
jadewolfhmm09:02
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Adrosswhat's the command that updates the debian menu?09:02
jadewolfI'll try that crimsun_ , sorry I didn't say anything earlier I usually look for my name ont he line to read09:03
McSojadewolf: hahah i do the same thing, i get really confused because theres so many people talking at one time09:03
crimsun_Adross: update-menus09:03
wayne_lol09:04
Adrosscrimsun_: do i have to restart x for it to work?09:04
jadewolfMcSo, I just do it this way to avoid picking up half my conversations and half of someone elses09:04
McSocrimsun_: i just downloaded the gcc-3.4 packages and i'm booting ubuntu up now... so how do install them once i've got them?09:04
Adrossit's still listing kde stuff is all09:04
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duderinowhat archives does ubuntu gnome breezy support?09:04
crimsun_Adross: do you have menu-xdg installed?09:04
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Adrossi think so09:04
duderinoaudacity is being a pig and won't recognize my soundcard09:05
crimsun_Adross: use dpkg -l to ensure that you do.09:05
Adrosscrimsun_: yes09:05
crimsun_McSo: sudo dpkg -i [..] 09:05
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crimsun_duderino: ``cat /proc/asound/cards'' -> pastebin09:06
duderinook09:06
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duderinohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/679509:07
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jadewolfcrimsun_, omg thank you dude, this nvu is awesome09:08
McSocrimsun_: ok i've got gcc installed09:08
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crimsun_McSo: so now follow the instructions in the unpacked driver source to compile the driver09:09
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duderinois there an alt-tab equiv for gnmoe?09:09
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johndarkhorseduderino: alt-tab doesnt work?09:10
duderinonot while in game09:10
duderinooh wait it does09:10
crimsun_duderino: what error is Audacity giving you?09:10
duderinostand by09:11
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jack|assis there a bittorrent for the CD iso of breezy?09:11
crimsun_jack|ass: yes, see the download page.09:11
jack|assnevermind09:12
jack|asscrimsun_: hah, yeah, sorry, i just now saw it.  I questioned because on the mirrors, the dvd has a torrent link09:12
gerald-voltwhat's a good program for writing source code09:13
gerald-voltfor C09:13
duderinoThe error is gone...last night I'd press record and Audacity would genrate something to the effect of can't connect sound card...i didjnt wr9ite it down09:13
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crimsun_gerald-volt: any editor that you find comfortable.09:13
gerald-voltwhat are some out there?09:14
crimsun_vim, emacs, joe, nano, [..] 09:14
duderinonow it starts recording....i can hear the mic...i select the mic in audacity it wont record anything though09:14
duderinoit records but not any sound09:14
crimsun_duderino: pastebin the output of ``amixer''09:14
C-O-L-Thow to install a deb file in terminal09:14
duderinook09:14
crimsun_C-O-L-T: sudo dpkg -i [..] 09:15
C-O-L-Tcrimsun_: ok thanks09:15
McSocrimsun_: it said i needed to install the ncurses libraries... is that from the gcc-3.4 package that i was meant to download?09:15
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crimsun_McSo: you need libncurses5-dev and is dependencies09:15
duderinohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/679609:15
crimsun_s/is/its/09:15
duderinothats a lot of info09:15
Koruptokay, now I'm irritated... Eterm doesn't work borderless in gnome09:16
crimsun_duderino: you need to set 'ADC' to Capture, too09:17
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crimsun_(and unmute it)09:17
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eeaaxxis there a site where i can find a list of all repositories?09:18
duderinoso syntax is # sudo gedit amixer   ?09:18
crimsun_duderino: no, just alsamixer09:19
crimsun_no sudo09:19
duderinook09:19
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McSocrimsun_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/libdevel/libncurses5-dev this one?09:19
crimsun_McSo: yes09:19
duderinohow does one address only the one they are talking to anyway?09:19
eeaaxxis there a site where i can find a list of all repositories?09:19
doogluseeaaxx: no09:20
crimsun_duderino: you preface the statement with the nick, like we're doing09:20
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duderinonick crimsun whats up?09:20
doogluseeaaxx: nobody knows about all the repositories09:20
duderinonick/crimson hello09:20
crimsun_duderino: no, just: crimsun: [..] 09:20
duderinocrimsun hi09:20
eeaaxxdooglus: ok. thanks09:20
duderinocrimsun: hi09:20
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duderinowhatever09:21
jadewolfSo are there any decent games for ubuntu?09:21
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crimsun_duderino: don't try to priv msg/query me, just address me in here.09:21
gerald-volthow do I execute a program in terminal without having to have the terminal opened the whole time while the program is running?09:21
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glyphWhere do I go to report bugs on dapper?09:21
duderinoi like netpanzer09:21
dooglusgerald-volt: nohup it09:21
gerald-voltthanks09:21
crimsun_glyph: if it's a main package, use bugzilla, otherwise, malone.09:21
duderinoi wont i was just wondering how to make it in red or whatever09:21
glyphcrimsun_: How's "gnome" :)09:21
gerald-voltdoesn't work though09:21
dooglusgerald-volt: like "nohup firefox > /dev/null 2>&1 &09:21
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crimsun_glyph: [http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com and http://launchpad.net/malone , respectively] 09:21
gerald-voltthat's so complicated09:21
dooglusgerald-volt: "doesn't work" isn't a very good bug report09:21
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gerald-volti just tried nohup emacs09:22
dooglusgerald-volt: you don't have to redirect the output if you don't want to09:22
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gerald-voltand the terminal stays there09:22
gerald-voltthat's what i mean09:22
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dooglusgerald-volt: so kill the terminal09:22
gerald-voltif I kill the terminal, it kills my program09:22
dooglusnot if you nohup it it doesn't09:23
gerald-voltnohup emacs > /dev/null 2>&1$09:23
gerald-volt-bash: 1$: ambiguous redirect09:23
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doogluswhat's that dollar sign on the end for?09:23
gerald-voltoops09:23
gerald-volttypo09:23
gerald-voltok09:24
gerald-voltthat worked09:24
gerald-voltcan u explain how that bash line worked?09:24
crimsun_duderino: have you pasted it yet?09:24
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duderinono09:24
dooglusdoesn't work for me09:24
jadewolfSo do you guys suggest wine or cedga?09:25
duderinoI am trying to select it in capture what are keyboard commands rodent dependant here09:25
crimsun_duderino: ok, have you opened alsamixer yet/09:25
duderinoyes09:25
crimsun_duderino: press F4 for the capture perspective09:25
duderinoi tabbed to capture09:25
dooglusgerald-volt: which bit(s) don't you understand?09:25
gerald-voltwait09:25
crimsun_duderino: use the left and right arrow keys to move to the ADC component09:25
dooglusthere wasn't a 'wait' bit09:25
TranceRiverYay!  I'm finally on Ubunbu.09:25
TranceRiverUbuntu*.09:26
duderinook09:26
duderinogot that far09:26
crimsun_duderino: press the space bar to toggle09:26
gerald-voltwhat is /dev/null 2 > &1&09:26
duderinooh cool09:26
crimsun_duderino: press escape to quit09:26
dooglus>/dev/null is redirecting the output09:26
duderinosweet09:26
dooglus2>&1 is redirecting the errors09:26
dooglus& is running it in the background09:26
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gerald-voltoh09:27
dooglussee "man bash" for information09:27
gerald-voltbut it still doesn't work09:27
gerald-voltif i close the terminal, it cloess emacs09:27
dooglushow are you closing the terminal?09:27
gerald-voltby clicking the X symbol09:27
gerald-volton the top right corner of the terminal09:28
dooglustry typing "exit" or control-d09:28
gerald-voltk, that worked09:28
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duderinoyour royalty crimsun i will send you a signed copy of my first gold record09:28
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crimsun_duderino: np09:28
duderinoany good drum machines for ubuntu?09:28
duderinoor sequencers/09:28
duderino?09:28
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crimsun_duderino: you can search with synaptic09:29
TranceRiverHow come I cannot change refresh rates in Ubuntu?  On my old Windows 2000, I could go up to 85 hz.09:29
duderinosynaptic is funny I can't seem to make things I find there work09:29
crimsun_!tell TranceRiver about fixres09:29
duderinoxawtv for example crashes my machine09:29
duderinoand i cant figure out how to delete it09:30
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crimsun_duderino: you can use Synaptic to remove it, just as you used it to install it09:30
duderinooh i see09:30
dortomy nautilus crashed and i was prompted to submit a bug. i entered some information but don't have a SMTP account; so the info was saved to a file. how do i submit it now?09:30
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gerald-volthow do I get coloured text when I progarm using nano09:30
dortoto whom should i email the saved bug information?09:30
rowanjlI can't get decent (non-choppy) DVD output :/09:31
crimsun_dorto: what program?09:31
rowanjlxine-check tells me its because XVideo isn't installed09:31
rowanjlbut it is09:31
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jadewolfduderino, did you check out hydrogen for drum machine?09:33
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duderinohydrogen im booting synaptic now I will try it...I ve used it on dsl a little09:33
rowanjlforget what I jus said, found a solution on a forum09:33
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duderinoim really fond of fruity loops and acid....as well as audiomulch on windoze09:34
C-O-L-Twho can help me in installing ww2d program like google eartg09:35
TranceRiverhow much space does linux take up on the hard drive?09:38
TranceRiver*ubuntu*09:39
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phreak97ok, so how do i update to firefox 1.5?09:39
timfrost     /msg nickserv set hide email on09:40
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C-O-L-T who can help me in installing ww2d program like google earth09:40
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moodogMorning all.09:41
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phreak97howdy09:41
phreak97happen to know how i can install firefox 1.5?09:42
sampantranceriver  my / partition has about 3.5 gigs of data and that's with kde (kubuntu-desktop installed on top) ... but my /home is on a separate partition09:42
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dooglusdorto: you could upload it as an attachment at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/09:43
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timfrostmoodog, evening from NZ09:44
dooglusI uninstalled kubuntu-desktop and dependancies earlier today.  it freed 400Mb.09:44
ryancasimiro_can someone explain to me what the error 'no such file directory' means?09:44
dooglusryancasimiro_: isn't there an "or" in there as well?09:45
holycowryancasimiro_, well ... it means no such directory?09:45
Madpilotryancasimiro_: um, that there is no file directory w/ the name you asked for?09:45
doogluscat: /tmp/sdfjkj: No such file or directory09:45
ajmitchtimfrost: getting later into the evening now :)09:45
sampanryancasimiro_  it means there is no such file and/or directory in that location09:45
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ryancasimiro_ok thanks09:46
McSoarghhh09:46
timfrostajmitch. yes - 8:20 PM in Wellington.  Wonder what time it is for moodog09:47
ryancasimiro_now that i knwo what it means, can someone tell me how to fix it? hehe09:47
ajmitchtimfrost: your clock is a bit wrong there09:47
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McSobleh09:48
TranceRiverWhere do I get to the console?09:48
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madehello all.. I'm back09:48
madeI'm need some troubleshooting with fstab?09:49
nerdy2TranceRiver, ctrl+alt+f1 will get you to the console (and ctrl+alt+f7) will get you back if you really want that, or else you could probably start up gnome-terminal (or kterm?) to do what you want09:49
timfrostajmitch, not adjusted for DST, I think - my watch says 21:49, th PC says 20:49 :(09:49
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madeif anybody is up for troubleshooting right now?09:49
ajmitchtimfrost: possibly the wrong timezone set09:50
johndarkhorsemako: don't ask to ask09:50
johndarkhorsemade: don't ask to ask09:51
madeok.. I'm trying to make my ntfs partitions readable..09:51
timfrostajmitch, and easily fixed.  Meanmtme, I wonder what TZ moodog is in09:52
Madpilot!windowsdrives09:52
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f09:52
johndarkhorseubotu: tell made about mountwindows09:52
madeI tried that..09:52
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johndarkhorsemade: and what happened09:52
arrikwhat the full path to the random number device in ubuntu?09:52
arrik*what's09:52
madelet me do a past so you can see what happened09:53
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McSocan someone help me out with an installation of hardware please? at the moment i'm going through the readme and doign everything and then i'm meant to patch somthing from the kernal... but when i try it says its not there.09:54
timfrostarrik. /dev/random09:54
lsuactiafnerarrik : /dev/random has non-digits also09:54
lsuactiafnerarrik /dev/something09:54
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arrikthanks :)09:55
phreak97i have firefox-1.5.tar.gz and i dont know how to install it09:55
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lsuactiafnerphreak97 : ubuntu comes with firefox preinstalled09:55
phreak97lsuactiafner,  yeah, v1.0109:55
madehttp://rafb.net/paste/results/S37KUF42.html09:55
phreak97i need 1.509:55
lsuactiafnerphreak97 : but you dont want to try compile the source code, and the mozilla binary didnt work on ubuntu last time i checked09:55
made!firefox09:56
timfrostMcSo, more info - what hardware, and what readme?09:56
phreak97is compiling the sourse so hard?09:56
lsuactiafnerphreak97 :its not really 1.01 its been patched for some reason09:56
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lsuactiafnerphreak97 : also annoyes me, since the mozilla binary works on all the systems i checked but ubuntu, and for some reason we dont compile clean source....09:56
lsuactiafnerphreak97 : compiling from source is very easy, but compiling firefox aint, the program is huge and somewhere the compile will fail, so youll need to fix the code yourself09:57
arriki have Firefox 1.5 working just fine09:57
lsuactiafnerbut i compile my kernels, windows managers, mp3 players, mplayer myself09:57
McSotimfrost: http://optusnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/atmelwlandriver/atmelwlandriver-3.4.1.1.tar.bz209:57
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phreak97oh:(09:58
phreak97arrik, how'd you do it?09:58
madejohndarkhorse: did you get the url?09:58
arrikanyone know where the kernel-headers/sources are installed?  madwifi compile complains they're not in /usr/src/linux09:58
McSotimfrost: i've done everything on the readme till the USB for 2.5 and 2.6 part09:58
johndarkhorsemade: yes, one moment please09:58
arriki just untarred it in my home directory and ran it09:58
madekool kool09:58
lsuactiafnerphreak97 : i think you should just upgrade to breezy? and apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade09:58
jadewolfanyone here use wine for games?09:58
johndarkhorsemade: paste your /etc/fstab for me please09:58
phreak97phreak97,  why does everyone think i have hoary? i have always had breezy09:59
McSotimfrost: when i type in command (patch -bf -p1 < patch_atmel_reset) i get "patch **** strip count l is not a number"09:59
phreak97the 1.5 binaries seem to work fine09:59
phreak97but how do i tell linux its installed?09:59
lsuactiafnerthats cool09:59
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lsuactiafnerprefer to run nvidia offical and firefox releases10:00
arrikphreak97, just untar it somewhere, then point a launcher to firefox.   eg /home/*user*/firefox/firefox10:00
phreak97im still pretty new to it, im running the ssh file10:00
johndarkhorsephreak97: did you follow the wiki ?10:00
lsuactiafnerinstead of something hacked by someone that shouldnt10:00
McSotimfrost: but i'm not too sure if i'm doing it in the right folder.. in my /usr/src/ folder i have 2 folders.. linux-headers-2.6.12-9 and linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386... i did it in the 386 one.10:00
madejohndarkhorse: http://rafb.net/paste/results/TAuHSE82.html10:00
phreak97will it register itself as the default browser?10:00
arriknah, i have to copy links and open Fx manually10:01
arrikbout the only downside i've noticed so far10:01
johndarkhorsemade: that is not your fstab10:01
phreak97johndarkhorse,  nope10:01
johndarkhorseubotu: tell phreak97 about firefox1510:02
madefstab doesn't exist10:02
madeit won't list10:02
johndarkhorsemade: you have nothing at /etc/fstab ?10:02
madejohndarkhorse: wow.. no it's not even there..10:03
phreak97thanks10:03
madejohndarkhorse: straight from foomatic to gaim10:03
duderinoubuntu makes me happy....I can record, edit master produce play games surf...everything but watch tv (which Im still working on)10:03
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madenow I'm really confused.. why would the script tell me that fstab already had that information when fstab doesn't exist10:04
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johndarkhorsemade: dunno, but you need to do some checking10:04
|37th|TriggerGAH10:04
|37th|Triggeri forgot the dudes name again :'(10:04
sorush20guys what does this mean?         unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_EINVAL"10:05
madejohndarkhorse: ?10:05
McSotimfrost: do you know how to fix it?10:05
|37th|Triggerall i can remember is "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf"10:05
|37th|Trigger:'(10:05
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s_spiffhello10:05
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GTroydo you use killall to end all processes?10:05
sorush20|37th|Trigger10:06
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sorush20|37th|Trigger: what is the prblem..10:06
timfrostMcSo, the README implies that the full kernel needs to be present,. not just the headers10:06
PuMpErNiCkLe^_^10:06
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sorush20any new people in here?10:06
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McSotimfrost: i see... so how do i make that happen?10:06
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shinuGTroy: killall somename is to kill all processes with that name :D10:06
GTroyshinu: tried that, and no luck10:07
timfrostMcSo, have yu downloaded the full kernel source?10:07
C-O-L-Twho can help me in installing ww2d10:07
C-O-L-T??????????????10:07
shinuGTroy: kill -9?10:07
s_spiffwhats ww2d?10:07
steve_hey all, is there any meta package I can install for development?  I don't want to install a bunch of packages individually..10:07
GTroyshinu: I'll give it a try10:07
C-O-L-Ts_spiff: GOOGLE EARTH FOR LINUX10:07
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McSotimfrost: i'm not sure...10:07
shinuGTroy: kill -9 pid :)10:07
PuMpErNiCkLe:D10:07
McSotimfrost: is there a way i can check?10:08
madejohndarkhorse: found something.. http://rafb.net/paste/results/4wFj9Y21.html10:08
s_spiffhey, last time i installed KDe on my Ubuntu, I ended up gettin all the KDE applications on my GNOME menu's too..and all the GNOME app's on my KDE menus! anything I can do to prevent this?10:08
McSotimfrost: i don't think i have... do you know where i can get it?10:08
arrikS_SPIFF    install kubuntu from the start?10:08
s_spiffumm, but I want both, KDE and Gnome10:09
s_spiff so i would have to install gnome on kubuntu!10:09
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C-O-L-Ts_spiff: I have both10:09
sampans_spiff  you can always edit the menus to remove the applications you don't want to see10:09
s_spiff and again the same thing would happen!10:09
madejohndarkhorse: I can see it in terminal but not in /etc filebrowser10:09
s_spiffsampan, to tiresome a proocess10:09
C-O-L-Ts_spiff: I have Kubuntu installed with gnome too10:09
s_spiff I'm searchin the forums for it10:09
s_spiffas in? C-O-L-T10:09
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madecan somebody look at this and tell me why my ntfs is not readable in ubuntu? http://rafb.net/paste/results/4wFj9Y21.html10:10
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C-O-L-Ts_spiff: I have seen that you want both of them10:10
s_spiffyeah10:10
s_spiff and I installed the KDE meta-package last time10:10
s_spiff but the menus sorta gor 'mixed up'..10:10
Greveshello i'm having a problem installing g++... getting this huge error when i try to compile a simple hello world program: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=1140810:10
s_spiff anything to prevent this?10:11
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s_spiff C-O-L-T  I just got a link, thread, talking abotu it10:11
s_spiff so with those commands I can remove all KDE stuff from GNOMe10:11
s_spiff but no link for vice-versa10:12
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timfrostMcSo, "dpkg -l |grep ^ii | egrep 'linux|kernel'" should be revealing10:12
C-O-L-Ts_spiff: I see10:12
madejohndarkhorse: you still there?10:12
johndarkhorsemade: ok, gimme a minute10:12
C-O-L-Ts_spiff: how to delete my cahed archive debs10:12
C-O-L-T?10:12
madekool .. thx in advance m810:12
maderm10:13
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McSotimfrost: do i just type that in?10:13
piglopdoes anyone know why user-mode-linux is not availiable in breezy?10:13
Grevesanyone?10:13
johndarkhorsemade: i've only changed /hda1, you should change all the other ntfs drives10:14
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McSotimfrost: nevermind... i got a whole punch of stuff shown after i typed that10:15
Grevesanyone help me get g++ worknig please?10:15
madeok10:15
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madejohndarkhorse: I'm very greatful..10:16
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s_spiffC-O-L-T, I wouldn't know that, sorry. actually someone last time told me to : man spt-get  : for a procedure to 'clean' the archived packages10:17
s_spiffman apt-get10:17
deFryskC-O-L-T, apt-get clean10:18
s_spifftry it10:18
johndarkhorsemade: sorry, i'm in an office atm10:19
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mal1how difficult is it to administer a group of ubuntu machines? What does RHEL offer than Ubuntu does not?10:22
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PuMpErNiCkLemal1: Not difficult, unless you're using some weird custom software packages.10:23
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McSotimfrost: so... i think i have the full linux kernal...10:23
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McSotimfrost: so.. i shouldn't be having that problem if i have the full kernal? or am i doing it in the wrong place10:23
Morrowynmal1, a company that runs the thing that if out for profit ...10:24
madejohndarkhorse: do I change the uid=000 per hda1 hdd5 hdb5?10:24
Morrowyns/if/is10:24
johndarkhorsemade: yes, just like /dev/hda110:24
madekool10:24
s_spiffjust installed FireFox 1.510:25
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s_spiff ! yay!10:25
ubotuNot a clue, s_spiff10:25
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s_spiffhuh?10:25
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alan__how do launch a bin file : like realpayer install bin?10:26
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crimsunrealplayer is in multiverse10:27
johndarkhorsealan__: ./bin10:27
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johndarkhorsealan__: there is a wiki detailing how to install realplayer10:27
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swetlanddon't suppose anyone's about who knows something about xorg, i810 video support and X startup unhappiness along the lines of:10:29
swetland(1280x1024,SAMSUNG) mode clock 100000MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz10:29
s_spifffor those who have the KDE and GNOME menus mixed up this is a good link : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11415810:29
swetlandthere's a bug 7878 that says this issue is resolved in breezy (which I'm running), but it is still unhappy for me...10:29
C-O-L-TI AM CURRENTLY AWAY10:31
s_spiffcrimsun, what exactly is multiverse?10:32
s_spiffis it that, I have to pay / register the software I downlod?10:32
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crimsuns_spiff: non DFSG-free software10:32
madejohndarkhorse: You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hda1"10:32
alan__realplayer isnt in multiverse10:33
johndarkhorsemade: did you unmount and remount all those partitions?10:33
timfrostMcSo, the kernel stuff is divieded into 3 parts (binary/headers/source). I am not sure whether yo0u are OK with just the headers;10:33
s_spiffDFSG?10:33
s_spiffsorry, totally noob10:33
yaccJust wondering, is there a way to see what security updates are pending with apt-get/aptitude (I use apt-get -s upgrade and look for security, but that seems quite a hack)10:33
johndarkhorseubotu: tell alan__ about realplayer10:33
ajmitchalan__: only software that can be distributed legally in multiverse10:33
johndarkhorses_spiff: licensing issues seperate universe and multiverse10:33
madeumount: only root can unmount /dev/hda5 from /media/hda510:33
johndarkhorsealan__: check your priv msgs10:33
s_spiffumm ok, sill no clue, but i'll take your word for it10:33
johndarkhorsemade: probably easiest to restart the box10:33
alan__thx10:34
madeyeah.. brb10:34
McSotimfrost: i see... well if it says the kernel is installed.. how come it's not in the /usr/src folder?10:34
UncleDjohndarkhorse: I just got pppoeconf on a fresh install of breezy. I cant connect to the box from the outside. why? how do I turn off the firewall or whatever it blocking outside connections - (i want to ssh in)10:34
johndarkhorseUncleD: have you installed 'ssh'10:34
UncleDnope10:35
Grevescan anyone help me? i've just put ubuntu on, and installed g++, and am getting a huge number of errors when i try to compile anything10:35
crimsunyou need openssh-server10:35
UncleDi wasnt sure if it by default came installed10:35
johndarkhorseUncleD: that would prevent any ssh activity10:35
Greveshttp://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=1140810:35
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johndarkhorseUncleD: the package name is "ssh"10:35
UncleDshould I use dpkg?10:35
alan__excellent advice thanks10:35
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johndarkhorseUncleD: use apt-get or synaptic10:35
UncleDapt-get install openssh-server ?10:35
crimsunyes, that would suffice10:36
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Sven_kann mir jemand helfen mit kubuntu?10:36
swetlandalso, is there a commandline way to do updates? when I click on the "update available" icon I'm prompted for a root password and then nothing ever happens...10:36
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johndarkhorse!de10:37
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de10:37
timfrostMcSo,. the Kernel *SOURCE* is usually installed into /usr/src. in Ubuntu, the heraders files are under /usr/src/linux-headers/%( uname -r)10:37
Madpilotswetland: use your own user password10:37
johndarkhorseubotu: tell swetland about apt-get10:37
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madejohndarkhorse: thx alot for your patience with my noob ass10:37
Sven_danke10:37
Madpilot!tell swetland about root10:37
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madeyeah m8..10:37
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Sven_bye10:38
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madekool10:38
johndarkhorsemade: join #kubuntu-offtopic please for chat (if interested)10:38
McSotimfrost: ah ok... well i only have the linux-headers folders in /usr/src/... so i guess i don't have the kernel source then?10:38
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lakritzhey10:38
swetlandthe bot points me at a nonexistant wiki page for the apt get howto...10:39
lakritzisn't it possible to run something every few seconds with crontab?10:39
lakritzman 5 crontab doesn't speak about seconds10:39
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madethx for the invite10:39
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paulproteus|laptlakritz: You'd have to run a shell script that sleeps for a few seconds and does its job, and repeats this.10:39
timfrostMcSo, correct.10:39
lakritzpaulproteus|lapt, just thought of that, thanks10:39
McSotimfrost: so how do i get one?10:39
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ilba7rare there a free format alternative to libdvdcss210:40
ilba7r!freeformats10:40
ubotufrom memory, freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats10:40
Madpilotswetland: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto10:40
johndarkhorseswetland: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo10:40
johndarkhorseilba7r: there is not.10:40
ilba7rthanx johndarkhorse10:41
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ROBOdhi10:41
swetlandthanks10:41
Morrowynhow do i disable the alt and control keys in gnome10:42
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ROBOdis there a discussion going on a forum about why Ubuntu doesn't have updates for the latest kernel?10:42
Morrowynbecause i need those keys in other apps10:42
lakritzpaulproteus|lapt, I just thaught "what if the script stops for any reason", what about a crontab then like "killall <scriptname>; /path/to/<scriptname>", is this a good idea?10:42
s_spiffthere is a new kernel released?10:42
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MadpilotMorrowyn: other apps should intercept keystrokes before Gnome gets them10:42
crimsuns_spiff: for Breezy? No.10:43
s_spiffok.10:43
Morrowynhmmm, weird10:43
ROBOdcrimsun: yeah ... for Breezy: no10:43
timfrostMcSo, apt get install linux-source-2.6.12 (breezy)10:43
ROBOdcrimsun: but why?10:43
crimsunROBOd: why what?10:43
paulproteus|laptlakritz: You should have the script handle a single minute.10:43
Morrowynwhen i press alt and mouseclick, gnome is going to move my window10:43
paulproteus|laptAnd then run it every minute via cron.10:43
ROBOdcrimsun: why there isn't?10:43
ROBOd:)10:43
crimsunROBOd: it's a frozen distro. Nothing new goes in.10:43
lakritzpaulproteus|lapt, it's a python-script I wrote, so it should sleep a dividor of 60?10:44
lakritzah ... ok, now understood10:44
lakritzhehehe10:44
lakritzlike run 4 times always sleeping 15secs10:44
lakritzor 3 times of course10:44
ROBOdso ... users getting the stable release of a distro (like Breezy) .... won't get updates?10:44
PuMpErNiCkLeROBOd: Only security updates.10:45
ROBOdfor updates they have to use "experimental" Dapper?10:45
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crimsunROBOd: only security fixes and major updates. The kernel is too big to safely update without introducing bugs.10:45
McSotimfrost: thanks for helping... http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fl%2Flinux-source-2.6.12%2Flinux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-10.25_all.deb&md5sum=8abe8d2b2aa42d77ec8c6d21627be496&arch=all&type=security is that basically what i want?10:45
ROBOdtaha10:45
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pinucsetone think, how can i connect to a friend's computer? (see his linux for helping him)10:46
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ROBOdand ... when dapper will be released ...10:46
ROBOdis there a way to upgrade?10:46
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filleokusHi10:46
crimsunROBOd: from breezy to dapper? Yes, in April 2006.10:46
johndarkhorseROBOd: the ubuntu version numbers are the release dates, hence Dapper 6.04 will release in april 200610:46
timfrostMcSoi, I think so.  I haven't had too go that route to get the stuff Iwant (java. VMware) working.  Good luck10:46
UncleDjohndarkhorse: that worked great, thank you. I can ssh in now.10:47
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UncleDjohndarkhorse: I have 2 p4 cpus in my machine. Did breezy detect both of them and configure them to be used on install? How do I check?10:47
ROBOdthanks guys10:47
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Morrowynhmmmm, i cant find the alt-leftmouse combination in gnome keyboard shotcuts10:47
_BlackCrow_ ???!!!!10:47
Morrowyni need to disable this one10:47
s_spiffhey anyone knows how to install the skins for sMSN?10:47
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ROBOdthey do work hard on making smooth upgrade?10:47
s_spiffaMSN10:47
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crimsunROBOd: yes10:48
ROBOdhope so :)10:48
_BlackCrow_ ???!!!!10:48
filleokusIm running ubuntu on my new server. And when i have added all that ni should to in my source.list. I cant install apache or proftpd or something cause  when i apt-get update i cant connect to the backports10:48
filleokusAnd when i comment them out it says that i dont have acsess to all packages10:48
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filleokusWhat to do?10:49
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UncleDI have two Pentium4 cpus in my machine. Did breezy detect both of them and configure them to be used on install? How do I check?10:50
ROBOdwhere to find new backports for my ubuntu? with fresh updates?10:50
ROBOdfresh updates for opera, firefox and the like10:50
UncleDRobo, i was wondering the same thing10:50
_BlackCrow_      ,    10:50
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johndarkhorseubotu: tell ROBOd about sources10:50
Mez!tell ROBOd about backports10:50
ROBOdnot "hard-core" stuff like the kernel10:50
ROBOdhehe10:50
UncleDjohn, do you know the answer10:50
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UncleDto my question ?10:50
filleokusAny ideas about my trubble?10:50
UncleDregarding cpus.10:50
johndarkhorseUncleD: the answer to what?10:51
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MezROBOd, I believe you should have been messaged by ubotu about backports :D we dont do anything hardcore AT ALL :D10:51
UncleDjohndarkhorse: I have 2 p4 cpus in my machine. Did breezy detect both of them and configure them to be used on install? How do I check?10:51
ROBOdMez: hehe, i enabled the universe and multiverse of course10:51
johndarkhorseUncleD: in a terminal type "uname -a"10:51
thegladiatorwhats the command line to edit the login screen ?10:51
filleokusshould have taken debian instead10:52
MezROBOd, whatever - just use the backports line :D it's great :D backports pwns :D10:52
Mezlol10:52
Mezbut then I'm the "team leader" for it10:52
Mezso I would say that10:52
johndarkhorseMez: you should state a disclaimer10:52
UncleDjohn: what am i looking for in uname -a ?10:52
ROBOdMez: lol10:52
johndarkhorseUncleD: something resembling 'smp'10:52
UncleDI dont see it.10:52
UncleDHow can I get ubuntu to recognize my second cpu?10:52
Mezjohndarkhorse, a disclaimer? why?10:52
ilba7runcled i am not sure but you can try top in a terminal10:52
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thegladiatorcan someone tell me the command so that I can chnage my gnome login screen . i am using kde at the moment10:53
johndarkhorseMez: you issued one while i was typing10:53
UncleDI think I need to install a smp kernel john.10:53
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UncleDjohn: where can I find an smp kernel to install10:53
johndarkhorseUncleD: probably so, you can use synaptic10:53
Mezthegladiator, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm10:53
johndarkhorseUncleD: type john<tab> please10:53
UncleDjohndarkhorse: oh, that works.10:53
bob_ROBOd, Try: cat /proc/cpuinfo  Then count how many cpus you see.10:53
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johndarkhorseUncleD: that alerts me that you are talking to me10:53
thegladiatorMez, actually I set that to gdm , but hwo do I change my gdm screen ?10:53
UncleDbob_: i need to install smp I think.10:54
UncleDjohndarkhorse: I didn't know.10:54
johndarkhorseUncleD: use synaptic10:54
filleokuswhats the right adress to the backports?10:54
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keskemalhi10:54
Mez!tell filleokus about backports10:54
thegladiatorMez, i changed it to something else from the default Human screen . nOw i ndeed to get back to the old uman screen10:54
Mezoh10:54
UncleDjohndarkhorse: ok, i will.10:54
crimsunthegladiator: System> Administration> Login Window10:55
Mezthegladiator, I'm not too sure - sorry D I use kdm :D10:55
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grundohi all!10:55
ROBOdbob_: i see only one cpu :P10:55
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keskemalI'm from Turkey10:55
thegladiatorcrimsun, i am also using kde atm:) command line is what i wa thinkin10:55
keskemalWhat about are you talking?10:56
thegladiatorcrimsun, how to acess the same thing from the command lone ? gnome-login-manager ?10:56
thegladiatorsomething like that ?10:56
johndarkhorsekeskemal: join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat, #ubuntu is a help and support channel10:56
crimsunthegladiator: my instructions are for gdm, not kdm10:56
ilba7rUncleD, did you try top command will show you the cpus you have10:56
bob_ROBOd, then your kernel is only seeing one cpu.  Yes, as you said, you need to install an smp aware kernel.10:56
crimsunI'm sure there's something in KDE's control application10:57
keskemalok10:57
UncleDjohndarkhorse: I dont see anything under synaptic called smp or anything like that?10:57
thegladiatorcrimsun, no idea about the command line to aces the same thing ?10:57
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johndarkhorseUncleD: what processor do you have?10:57
grundoi tryed to compile my c++ project whit KDevelop, but it done a configure error: Qt(>= Qt 3.2)(headers and libraries)not found.10:57
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UncleDjohndarkhorse: model : 410:58
UncleDmodel name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz10:58
ROBOdbob_: who said i need that? :P10:58
bob_ROBOd, Try: apt-cache search linux-image smp  to see what kernels are available with smp.10:58
grundowhere i can get these headers libaries?10:58
UncleDjohndarkhorse: model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz10:58
s_spiff|AWAYdoes that mean grundo doesn't have the libraries?10:58
crimsungrundo: libqt3-mt-dev10:58
johndarkhorseUncleD: try linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp10:58
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grundo?10:58
|37th|TriggerHello :)10:58
s_spiff|AWAYhuh?10:59
UncleDjohndarkhorse: can i install that via apt-get install?10:59
johndarkhorseUncleD: you may, if you wish10:59
ilba7rgrundo install libqt-dev10:59
grundosudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev?10:59
|37th|TriggerAnyone know anything about installing games? ;o10:59
UncleDjohndarkhorse: when I do apt-cache search smp I don't see anything called linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp - how come?10:59
Madpilot|37th|Trigger: which games?10:59
thegladiator|37th|Trigger, gnome comes with a host of nice games actally :)11:00
jendaAnyone know what I can do when dvd:rip refuses to work with .iso images?11:00
johndarkhorseUncleD: apt-cache search 'linux-image'  (no quotes)11:00
bob_ROBOd, Oops.  My mistake.  I mixed you up with UncleD who asked that question.  Sorry.11:00
crimsungrundo: you'd better just install kdebase-dev11:00
grundo:)11:00
grundowhat im going to install here?11:00
grundo:-)11:00
johndarkhorsejenda: burn the .iso to a disk11:00
crimsunkdebase-dev11:00
|37th|Triggerhmm11:00
UncleDjohndarkhorse: I see the following.. linux-image-2.6.12-9-386 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.12 on 386 & linux-image-386 - Linux kernel image on 386.11:00
|37th|Triggerwhy cant i pm madpilot :/11:01
UncleDneither of those say smp.11:01
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filleokusdoes sdo apt-get install  proftpd works for you?11:01
filleokussudo11:01
filleokus*11:01
jendajohndarkhorse: can't (no DVD burner)... but I could mount it...11:01
johndarkhorseUncleD: visit packages.ubuntu.com and search there for linux-image11:01
grundothere is no libqt-dev11:01
UncleDjohndarkhorse: why doesn't my apt-cache search properly show it..11:01
bob_UncleD, You should also see linux-image-2.6.12-9-686-smp in breezy/main11:02
filleokusAny one?11:02
UncleDbob.. is somethign wrong with my apt-cache search.. for not listing that?11:02
filleokusim kind of stuck here..11:02
johndarkhorseUncleD: i have no clue. try using synaptic11:02
UncleDjohndarkhorse: i tink I need a better sources.list file11:02
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ilba7rgrundo, sorry it might be an old repos i had11:02
johndarkhorseubotu: tell UncleD about sources11:03
grundo:)11:03
grundook11:03
grundoi found kdebase-dev11:03
grundo:)11:03
bob_UncleD, Really strange that you would see one but not see the other.  Both are in breezy/main.  Try using smp in the search pattern11:03
grundowill that solve the problem?11:03
s_spiff|AWAY! repositories11:03
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource11:03
horndogI don't think P4's do smp, only Zeons11:04
s_spiff|AWAY! x-chat11:04
ubotuNot a clue, s_spiff|AWAY11:04
bob_Actually a Xeon is a P4.11:04
horndognot when it come to smp :)11:04
UncleDbob_: smp in the pattern shows me nothing..11:05
grundo!ubotu11:05
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.11:05
crimsunUncleD: it's easiest to install linux-686-smp11:05
UncleDcrimsun: I dont see that in my packages.11:05
horndogBet to go the "2cpu" forum to ask for sure11:05
bimberiUncleD: what sources do you have enabled - it might only be the CD ones11:05
UncleDcrimsun: I believe maybe my sources.list is not very good?11:05
UncleDbimberi: How do i enable more sources11:05
grundo!glib11:05
ubotugrundo: I don't know11:05
crimsunUncleD: you haven't enabled the main and security repos. Fix that in System> Administration> Synaptic> Settings> Repositories11:05
UncleDbimberi: How can I enable a full list of the best sources.11:05
|37th|Triggerumm11:05
bimberiUncleD: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto11:06
|37th|Triggerwhat's the standard root password for ubuntu?11:06
UncleDcrimsun: I see, thank you.11:06
johndarkhorseUncleD: listen to crimsun11:06
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|37th|Triggerit didnt ask me too set one :/11:06
grundo!suse11:06
ubotugrundo: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?11:06
bimberiubotu tell |37th|Trigger about root11:06
grundo!yes11:06
ubotuYes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, grundo?11:06
ilba7rstrange when i run aptitude search i get libqt-dev as a virtual package. yet i can not find it using synaptic?11:06
grundo:-)11:06
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Madpilot|37th|Trigger: there isn't one, use sudo11:07
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s_spiff|AWAYubotu is a bot right?11:07
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, s_spiff|AWAY11:07
s_spiff|AWAYwhat?11:07
bimberis_spiff|AWAY: yes it is :)11:07
bimberiubotu tell s_spiff|AWAY about yourself11:07
grundo:-)11:08
s_spiff|AWAYlol, nice11:08
=== grundo Unix Rock!!!!!!!!!
s_spiff|AWAYunix?11:08
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grundoi mean linux11:09
s_spiff|AWAYouu ok.11:09
grundo:-)11:09
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McSohey guys.. once i get a .deb file how do i install it?11:11
crimsunMcSo: dpkg -i [..] 11:11
thegladiator!deb11:11
ubotuTo install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb11:11
McSothanks11:12
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UncleDcrimsun: that worked perfect11:13
bob_ubotu tell |37th|Trigger about rootpasswd11:13
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UncleDcrimsun: question. The first thing that popped up after I did that was that a bunch of updates were available - but I had to "close" synaptic to install them - how come?11:13
Madpilotbob_: use "root" or "sudo" for that ubotu command11:14
Madpilot!tell bob_ about root11:14
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s_spiff|AWAYcuz i think no two asp-get sorta stuff can acces the files simultaneously11:14
crimsunUncleD: only one program can have exclusive access to alter the package database11:14
s_spiff|AWAYapt-get*11:14
thegladiatoronce one updating program runs at a time11:14
bimberiUncleD: you can't run synaptic and the update manager at the same time11:14
encodehow can i resolve unmet dependencies for installing apache2 via apt after dist-upgrading from warty to hoary?11:14
s_spiff|AWAYyeah... yay.. I was right for once :P11:14
thegladiatorits configure that way to avoid confusion11:14
bob_Madpilot, the wiki page documenting that needs to be updated then.11:15
s_spiff|AWAYwhy two different stuff like 'Add Application' and 'Synaptic....'?11:15
crimsuns_spiff|AWAY: we're migrating away from Synaptic11:15
s_spiff|AWAYwhy?11:16
s_spiff|AWAY its quite good..isn't it?11:16
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jendaDoes anyone have any experience with dvd:rip (so as to recognise an error message at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6802 ?)11:16
crimsuns_spiff|AWAY: for the majority of cases, gnome-app-install is what people want11:16
s_spiff|AWAY i mean, if i can find stuff, I just use 'Search'11:16
grundoeny good web sites whic have nice tutorials about Qt c++ programing?11:16
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s_spiffumm, and whats the difference?11:16
crimsungrundo: there are lots. Try a Web search engine.11:16
thegladiatorgrundo, ask in #c++ also11:16
grundook11:17
grundothanks!11:17
grundoall11:17
s_spiffwhats Qt c++11:17
fekmoin11:17
crimsuns_spiff: g-a-i is a more streamlined interface for installing programs11:17
grundoi have my fisrt program compiles!11:17
s_spiffi know c++ but QT?11:17
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grundo:)11:17
s_spiffohh ok.11:17
SOMNIVM!11:17
ubotuI haven't a clue, SOMNIVM11:17
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grundo!Qt11:17
ubotuQt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package11:17
SOMNIVMsorry about that11:17
SOMNIVM:P11:17
grundo:-)11:18
SOMNIVMit opend the tab while I was writing a kick msg11:18
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netstarFor some reason ubuntu has associated Xchat with jpeg files and I can't remove the reference in open with dialog, any ideas?11:18
s_spiffheelp!!! I wanted my pc timeing to sync with some server crap, so I asked it to install some NTP or something, the terminal was installing some TLC.. or TCL11:19
nullvoidmy mail.log says amavis : ANTI-VIRUS and ANTI-SPAM code NOT loaded11:19
bimberiubotu tell netstar about defaultapp11:19
kouwewhen i want to unmount my ntfs drive its says it cannot be done cause of used drive... how do i unuse it?11:19
s_spiff and while i was writing a msg on XCHAT, the wil\ndow came up..and I pressed spacebar..11:19
s_spiff and the thing got cancelled..11:19
s_spiff any way to revive it?11:19
crimsuns_spiff: your pc already syncs to a time server at boot by default11:19
s_spiff now i cant open the 'Adjust Time Setting' on my dektop watch11:19
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netstarbimberi, I know this, but I can't remove Xchat, the remove button doesn't highlight11:20
s_spiffAdjust Date and Time'11:20
s_spiffit doesnt open!11:20
nicholascan anyone help me install unreal tournament 2004?11:20
grundoDoes it run OpenGL?11:20
Madpilots_spiff: does it ask for your password? (it should)11:20
s_spiffit doesnt even get to that stage11:20
UncleDcrimsun: before I install the new kernel via synaptic, is there anything special I can do to customize my kernel or synaptic makes it all automatic/11:21
s_spiff i mean last time it did11:21
s_spiff but after this installing/cancellation [ by mistake]  its not doing anything11:21
grundo!installing unreal tournament11:21
ubotugrundo: No idea11:21
kouwewhen i want to unmount my ntfs drive its says it cannot be done cause of used drive... how do i unuse it?11:21
crimsunUncleD: it's automagic. You just need to reboot.11:21
bimberinetstar: yes, same here, but  you can change the application though?11:22
s_spiffnor does the synaptic package manager open!11:22
s_spiffcrap!11:22
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netstarbimberi, xchat is present for you also? Yes I can change the application, it's just a little ugly.11:22
s_spiffwhen i used sudo command, i got this error : timestamp too far in the future: Jan  8 20:49:22 200611:23
s_spiffanyc clue as to what the problem maybe?11:23
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Eleafhmm11:24
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crimsunhe just needed to invalidate all his tty tickets11:25
crimsunthen reauth via sudo11:25
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bimberinetstar: no, no xchat - and i can't remove anything either (even with 'sudo nautilus' - yes i know that's naughty :) )11:26
katie_Quick Question : Still no Shockwave plugin or anything for linux?11:26
katie_Nothing at all?11:26
Myrttier?11:26
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UncleDcrimsun: is this the one i should use? linux-image-2.6.12-9-686-smp ?11:27
crimsunkatie_: no shockwave director, no11:27
johndarkhorsekatie_: flashplayer is as close as you get11:27
bimberikatie_: nothing at all :( - although i do have it working under wine11:27
zelz_666hey guys11:27
crimsunUncleD: linux-686-smp is the name of the metapackage that does all the magic11:27
kijjazlo (me newbie). i wanna install Flash for Firefox but it's not supported. I'm using Firefox 1.0.7 that comes with Ubuntu for ppc ^^"11:27
kouwehow can i check wich programm is accessing my NTFS drive on /media/data... to kill it ?11:27
nicholashow do i mount a disk with ubuntu?11:27
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katie_bumberi, care to explain how? lol, im new :(11:27
bob_ UncleD Yes, that should be a good one for a dual cpu machine.11:27
Madpilot!flash11:27
crimsunUncleD: one of the packages will be linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp11:27
ubotuhmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats11:27
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UncleDok great crimsun.11:27
zelz_666anyone intereseted in php?11:28
UncleDcrimsun: is there a meta package that installs php 5.1.1?11:28
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bimberiubotu tell katie_ about wine11:28
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kijjazOr flash plugin for firefox is not supported in Ubuntu for PPC?11:28
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ahoorahi all , i am using g++ in linux but i face errors when i use templates    do i need to enable templates in g++?11:28
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crimsunUncleD: sure, search for php511:28
Madpilotkijjaz: yeah, if you're running PPC I think you're out of luck - blame Macromedia...11:29
katie_ta11:29
callieanyone here network to an xbox using a second NIC? i could use some help here11:29
zelevwHi everyone...my kids are running Edubuntu and I'd like to filter their web surfing...is there an equivalent to cybersitter or net nanny?  thanks!11:29
netstarcallie, google for iptables MASQUERADING11:29
kijjazMadpilot: hahahha oh hahah thanks!! ^^" hmm.. i'm glad already seeing my old iBook running something that looks modern and uptodate like Unix lol.. ^^11:29
calliethanks netstar, im a little lost here11:29
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s_spiffhey, I just rebooted, and stuff's working again11:30
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s_spiff:P11:30
netstarcallie, it's not explainable within an irc window11:30
netstarsorry11:30
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callienetstar: i know what you mean, you'd end up cut and pasting the whole page11:30
bimberikatie_: my method was - 1. install wine (as per /msg from ubotu) 2. configure using sidenet - http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html  3. install firefox for windows  4. run it and install shockwave player11:30
netstaryou'll get it eventually, just keep trying11:31
katie_ahh, thanks11:31
katie_im just installing wine now11:31
callieok, might pop back for some help once i got the basics down though netstar11:31
katie_or not11:31
katie_can i pm you, just for a sec11:31
katie_lol11:31
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netstarsounds good calc11:31
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bimberikatie_: sure11:31
netstarcallie even11:31
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bimberikatie_: you're not identified so can't /msg me -  /join #bimberi instead11:32
johndarkhorseubotu: tell katie_ about register11:32
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s_spiff! register11:33
uboturegister is, like, totally, type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))11:33
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Katie^There.11:33
Katie^lol11:33
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calliejust one question though netstar , without setting up a masquerading, i should still be able to ping the xbox using 'ping -I eth1 <ipofxbox>'. or is that wrong?11:34
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McSohey.. i've downloaded a kernal source file.. can someone help/teach me how to install it?11:35
netstaryep should work11:35
zelevwHi everyone...my kids are running Edubuntu and I'd like to filter their web surfing...is there an equivalent to cybersitter or net nanny?  thanks!11:35
johndarkhorseMcSo: your synaptic or apt should be able to grab kernel sources11:35
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nicholasomg :/11:35
nicholasubuntu doesnt like me :(11:36
McSojohndarkhorse: i'm not connected on the internet11:36
nicholasbash: ./linux-installer.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied11:36
nicholasthat's connected as root too :/11:36
nicholasany idea why?11:36
s_spiffoops11:36
McSojohndarkhorse: i'm actually trying to follow the instructions of the README of the driver of my wireless lan card11:37
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s_spiffhey is there something like Ctrl+Alt+Del?11:37
s_spiff so that I can force close programs that are not responding?11:37
vealstocks_spiff - try running xkill in a terminal11:38
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stgrabers_spiff: alt+F2 and enter xkill11:38
nicholasctrl +alt + backspace11:38
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EleafGuys, I'm really bored.11:38
nicholasxD11:38
vealstockthen clicking on the window you want to kill11:38
callies_spiff: sudo killall <name of program>11:38
nicholaseleaf11:38
stgraberand click on the software you want to kill11:38
nicholasif your bored11:38
ompaulnicholas, (A) connected as root is not a requirement if you want to do something as root (B) the script might run with >>sudo sh linuxinstaller.sh<< (C) what are you trying to install anyway11:38
nicholashelp me ;)11:38
EleafWhat's a fun new open source project11:38
Eleafnicholas, what's up? lol11:38
ompaulnicholas, btw ubuntu loves everybody11:38
johndarkhorseEleaf: join #kubuntu-offtopic11:38
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Reny007alo kk kk11:38
residentlooking for help on package installation where should i go?11:39
bob_ALT+F4 will usually kill the selected window in most window managers today.11:39
jendaDoes anyone have any experience with dvd:rip (so as to recognise an error message at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6802 ?)11:39
s_spiffcallie, it says no processes killed11:39
nicholasubuntu doesnt love me.11:39
s_spiff I want to close aMSN11:39
nicholasheh.. amsn..11:39
nicholasJust use gaim.11:39
crimsunresident: what package(s)?11:39
s_spiff which is sorta stuck11:39
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residenta lib i downloaded11:39
residentit is a deb package11:40
s_spiffnah, gaim isn't so good ...esp. with the display pic part11:40
nicholasi love gaim11:40
nicholasits so to the point11:40
nicholasspiff11:40
callies_spiff: sudo killall amsn ?11:40
residenti had it installed earlier but forgot how i did it11:40
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s_spiffyeah callie11:40
nicholasif you want pictures and things that look nice11:40
ompaul!tell nicholas about enter11:40
nicholasgo with windows vista :/11:40
crimsunresident: what lib?11:40
s_spiffnicholas, I did use gaim b4, but it has sometimes connection problems with msn11:40
McSoso can someone help me install this kernal source thing?11:40
nicholaslol, shut up paul :P11:40
ompaul!ops11:40
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth11:40
residentdvdcss so i can play dvds from the drive11:41
johndarkhorseresident: it's not advised to download things piecemeal11:41
crimsunMcSo: you don't need kernel source to compile a driver11:41
nicholascan anyone help me with installing unreal tournie 2004? :(11:41
johndarkhorseompaul: are you running the dinner bell?11:41
crimsunthere's a libdvdcss howto factoid11:41
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Adrossdoes anyone here use openbox?11:41
ompaulyeap11:41
s_spiffwell that isn't the point nicholas , I am using linux, cuz I'm trying to go away from windows11:41
McSocrimsun: .. well i've tried following the README but to no avail...11:41
s_spiff after they dumped me from the Beta testing group :P11:41
ompaulif we are going to be trolled we can be trolled by a better class of troll11:41
nicholassudo: unable to execute ./linux-installer.sh: Permission denied11:41
crimsunMcSo: where does it fail?11:41
McSoit says11:42
crimsun(don't flood)11:42
ompaulnicholas, that was not the command I gave you scroll up and read it again11:42
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McSo"copy the ungzipped file to /usr/src/linux-2.6.x and run "#patch -bf -pl < patch-atmel_reset"11:43
RobbiesHi everybody. I installed xawtv, zapping & tvtime. When I scan for channels they can't detect a signal. Can anybody help me please?11:43
Eleafnicholas,11:43
McSothis is a requirement i'm pretty sure because it says in order to make the driver work for 2.6 kernels i'd need tod o that11:43
crimsunMcSo: are you positive that the included kernel with Breezy doesn't support your hardware?11:44
McSoso i tried that and then i get this - no file to patch11:44
crimsunMcSo: what device is it?11:44
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residentdo i need it to play dvds off the drive11:44
McSoit was11:44
McSoa wireless usb lan card11:44
feestbijtjemorning11:45
crimsunMcSo: I need a specific model #11:45
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ompaulfeestbijtje, hi11:45
McSocrimsun: http://atmelwlandriver.sourceforge.net/downloads.html <--- i got the driver from there11:45
s_spiffbrb11:45
McSoAtmel AT76C5XXx based11:45
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EleafWhat is fun?11:46
EleafI'm bored11:46
McSohelping me is fun :P11:46
EleafWhat are some interesting new projects?11:46
Eleaflol11:46
Eleaf-helps McJerry - there11:46
Eleaflol11:46
crimsunMcSo: usb?11:46
ompaulEleaf, chatting is done in the offtopic channels this is a help channel11:46
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McSocrimsun: yah11:47
zelevwHi everyone...my kids are running Edubuntu and I'd like to filter their web surfing...is there an equivalent to cybersitter or net nanny?  thanks!11:47
ompaul!tell Eleaf about enter11:47
Eleafompaul, I'm asking for help11:47
crimsunMcSo: Breezy supports that.11:47
Eleafompaul, about getting something fun..  it's a help question11:47
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kouwewhat kind of drive should i use for saving data, i have now NTFS but i have to convert it to.... ?????11:47
McSocrimsun: =\ so where am i going wrong?11:47
McSoi'm pretty sure i followed that readme step by step11:47
Madpilotkouwe: EXT3 is Ubuntu's standard formatting11:47
Eleafompaul, better believe it11:47
crimsunMcSo: first, you probably don't even need to compile a driver.11:48
Eleafright11:48
kouweok Madpilot thnx11:48
crimsunMcSo: sudo modprobe atmel11:48
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McSocrimsun: if you don't mind, could you take me through the installation of my card?11:48
McSocrimsun: i typed that and i just got nothing..11:48
crimsunMcSo: good11:48
crimsunMcSo: pastebin the output from ifconfig11:49
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allison_1984Madpilot: what's the best driver for your sound card ?11:49
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McSook11:49
McSosorry it might take some time, i'm going to have to type it out... i'm actually on my laptop and my desktop at the moment..11:50
Eleaflol11:50
McSo:|11:50
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johndarkhorseUncleD-: success?11:50
UncleD-crimsun: smp worked11:50
UncleD-yea!11:51
UncleD-both processors show up in /proc/cpuinf11:51
UncleD-both processors show up in /proc/cpuinfo11:51
Madpilotallison_1984: no idea - my onboard sound worked right away11:51
crimsunallison_1984: are you have sound card issues?11:51
crimsuns/have/having/11:51
UncleD-johndarkhorse: The next step is bind. this machine needs to run as a nameserver. can you recommend which bind package to use.. synaptic shows bind8.** but bind9 is listed when i do apt-cache search bind11:51
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crimsunjust install bind911:52
crimsun(that's the package name)11:52
McSocrimsun: http://pastebin.com/49616011:52
UncleD-crimsun: using apt-get or synaptic11:52
Morrowynhttp://www.morrowyn.org/3d/tree-ubuntu-human.jpg  what do you think?11:52
crimsunUncleD-: either11:53
UncleD-crimsun: i cant find bind9 in synaptic..11:53
CanYouHelpMePlzMorrowyn: eh11:53
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crimsunUncleD-: it's definitely in breezy/main: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/net/bind911:53
UncleD-crimsun: never mind11:53
allison_1984crimsun: not really, but the sound seems somewhat saturated....11:53
UncleD-crimsun: i found it now :)11:53
EleafI LOVE UBUNTU (not random)11:54
MorrowynCanYouHelpMePlz, eh ? hmmm....?11:54
ompaulCanYouHelpMePlz, still stuck? or do you want to change your url to helpedalready :)11:54
Eleaflol11:54
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CanYouHelpMePlzompaul: ?11:54
crimsunallison_1984: make sure you keep PCM below 80%11:54
ompaulCanYouHelpMePlz, you were stuck last time I was talking to you11:54
crimsunallison_1984: certain chipsets are known for massive distortion and oversaturation11:54
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allison_1984crimsun: alright11:54
CanYouHelpMePlzompaul: everything is fine now11:54
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crimsunMcSo: dmesg|tail11:55
CanYouHelpMePlzompaul: printer still doesnt work but eh whatever11:55
allison_1984I have an intel sound card11:55
UncleD-crimsun: ok great. thank you once again.11:55
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McSocrimsun: that gave me a bunch of unkown key released (translated set 2 code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0). stuff11:55
UncleD-crimsun: here's my nxt thing. I want to install lighttpd w/ mysql&postgrsql&php&openssl support - does thathapen automatically?11:55
crimsunMcSo: ok, then I'll need all the unfiltered dmesg output11:56
McSook11:56
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crimsunUncleD-: you'll have to check the forum for that; that's not my cup of tea.11:56
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crimsungranted it's pretty straight-forward to install any/all of those11:57
UncleD-crimsun: oops, there's a problem. How do I make it so my system does "plog on" when it boots up. I use pppoe so i don't want to have to manually log on using the configured settings.11:57
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McSocrimsun: http://pastebin.com/49616511:58
crimsunUncleD-: where is pppoe started?11:58
UncleD-hm11:58
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crimsunMcSo: _all_ of dmesg, not just the dmesg|tail11:58
csjhello, I got ubuntu live-base iso from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/livecd-base/, and I customize it, I installed xorg, gnome,gdm,etc. and then burn it to test, but failed cause I dont have /dev/input/mice, which package should I install to auto produce the device file?11:58
McSooh11:58
UncleD- i have usr/sbin/pppoeconf let me check11:58
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Eleafuhh11:59
zAo^Seveas,  can I use your repos on Dapper?11:59
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McSocrimsun: its basically all the same thing EXCEPT theres one that says usb 1-3: USB disconnect, address 512:00
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Storkhi, i don't really know how this works, is it possible to make c/c++ code that's designed for windows work on ubuntu?12:01
ompaulStork, if it is real c++ not something with lots of graphics - so hello world should port but windows effects you would have to run the binary on wine and hope for the best12:02
UncleD-crimsun: on synaptic, i notice there is mysql-server (4.0.24) and mysql-server-4.1 (4.1.12) - any reason not to install 4.1.12?12:02
Storkoh darn12:02
ninnghizidhais there a way to format an USB-Stick?12:02
Storkompaul, i don't know any c/c++, so it would probably be difficult to make the source run from the command line12:02
crimsunMcSo: what's the output from the following command? modinfo at76c503 >&/dev/null; echo $?12:03
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ompaulStork, you would take it and compile it12:03
crimsunUncleD-: not really12:03
Storkompaul, and remove the gui?12:03
McSocrimsun: "$"12:03
ompaulthe gui code for windows - the hooks would not be there for you12:03
crimsunMcSo: no, that entire command is one line12:03
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|37th|TriggerHello again :)12:04
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UncleD-crimsun: it appears "pon dsl-provider" activate's my DSL connection.12:04
crimsunMcSo: it will either give you a 0 or a 112:04
McSocrimsun: including the "?" ?12:04
McSooh12:04
McSoit gave me a 012:04
UncleD-crimsun: how can i make sure that dsl connection activates on reboot?12:04
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crimsunMcSo: yes, verbatim12:04
Storkompaul, what do you mean by the hooks?12:04
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crimsunMcSo: ok, good. sudo modprobe -r atmel && sudo modprobe at76c503 && ifconfig12:04
|37th|TriggerCan anyone help me with installing a game?12:04
ompaulStork, the framework that provides the "windows gui" that the code would latch onto12:05
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UncleD-crimsun: /usr/bin/pon /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider12:05
UncleD-crimsun: that commandturns activates my internet connection.12:05
crimsunUncleD-: did you install a ppoe package?12:05
McSocrimsun: that basically gave me the same as http://pastebin.com/49616012:05
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McSoexcept the RX and TX bytes down the bottom were larger12:05
|37th|Triggerumm12:05
|37th|Triggercan someone help me please?12:05
|37th|Trigger!help12:05
crimsunMcSo: I need the ifconfig output, though12:06
ompaul!anyone12:06
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>12:06
Hendikinsand how much disk space should a testing installation of Breezy under VMware chew?12:06
|37th|TriggerDoes anyone know why when i open the installer for unreal tournie 2004 i do not have permissions?12:06
crimsunUncleD-: sorry, a pppoe package12:06
crimsunHendikins: slightly more than 1 GB12:07
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UncleD-crimsun: all i had to do was run "pppoeconf" to configure it. no package required.12:07
|37th|Triggerplease can someone help me with this? im tearing my hair out :/12:07
Hendikinscrimsun: Sounds good. Just borrowing somebody else's cable and getting the DVD ISO off a local mirror. 1.14MB/sec is *so* much less painful than 3.0KB/sec!12:07
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JoeBlowhey, whats up?12:08
Tomcat_|37th|Trigger: How are you opening it?12:08
|37th|TriggerHey12:08
McSocrimsun: http://pastebin.com/49617512:08
Tomcat_|37th|Trigger: Please keep it in this channel. I will *not* read your query.12:08
|37th|Triggeroh12:08
|37th|Triggerok12:08
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crimsunUncleD-: then it should be configured already, and you don't need to do anything additional.12:08
phreak97whats a good alternative to alcohol 120% under ubuntu?12:09
|37th|Triggerwelllll.. I type ./installer.sh.. and i get a message telling me i dont have permissions12:09
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Tomcat_|37th|Trigger: Do "chmod u+x installer.sh" first12:09
|37th|Triggerok.12:09
Tomcat_|37th|Trigger: You need to have permission to execute the file and that should fix it.12:09
|37th|Triggercannot acces it :/12:09
UncleD-crimsun: its configured, but it doesn't run on bootup(ie. after reboot)12:09
crimsunMcSo: please pastebin the output from ``lsusb -v''12:10
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GenneXhey people12:10
crimsunUncleD-: what iface is brought up, ppp0?12:10
UncleD-yrd12:10
UncleD-yes12:10
|37th|Triggerchmod: changing permissions of `linux-installer.sh': Read-only file system12:10
|37th|Triggerroot@server:/cdrom# ./linux-installer.sh12:10
|37th|Triggerbash: ./linux-installer.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied12:10
|37th|Triggerroot@server:/cdrom#12:10
Tomcat_|37th|Trigger: Weird... do "ls -l installer.sh" and post the resulting line12:10
crimsunUncleD-: you can use a preup directive in /etc/network/interfaces12:10
|37th|Triggeri just got that.12:10
Tomcat_eh12:10
GenneXhow would I go about installing and running a windows application on ubuntu?12:10
crimsunUncleD-: man 5 interfaces12:11
Tomcat_|37th|Trigger: Okay I didn't know you're running this from CD... :P12:11
|37th|Trigger-r-xr-xr-x  1 root root 29627635 2004-03-04 09:42 linux-installer.sh12:11
HendikinsGenneX: You would use Wine for that.12:11
Tomcat_|37th|Trigger: In that case, do "sh installer.sh"12:11
|37th|Triggerhehe yes i am :$12:11
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|37th|Triggersorry12:11
irvin|37th|Trigger, sudo installer.sh12:11
|37th|Triggerlmaooo12:11
|37th|Triggerso easy12:11
McSocrimsun: http://pastebin.com/49617912:11
|37th|TriggerThanks tomcat12:12
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|37th|Triggerit was so easy now :(12:12
Tomcat_No problem. :] 12:12
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|37th|Trigger*feels like an idiot*12:12
crimsunMcSo: no wonder, it looks like firmware hasn't been uploaded to your usb device12:12
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Tomcat_|37th|Trigger: Nah, it's alright, you just need to learn that stuff step by step.12:12
|37th|Triggerim new to linux12:12
|37th|Triggerfirst day xD12:12
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|37th|Triggerwell i had mepis before.. that broke my pc ;(12:13
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McSocrimsun: huh? i don't get it... the card has worked fine on my windows partition.. i need to update the firmware or somthing?12:13
crimsunMcSo: /you/ don't need to update it, but the device requires firmware to be uploaded to it before it'll function. That occurred behind the scenes in Windows.12:14
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McSocrimsun: oh i see.. so how do i upload firmware on the device and do i already have it or do i have to search for it?12:14
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crimsunMcSo: it'd vastly help if you told me explicitly what hardware it is12:15
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McSocrimsun: like how explicit.. what kind of details?12:15
crimsunMcSo: e.g., from the bottom of the device12:15
|37th|TriggerTomcat is lord12:15
McSooh ok12:15
|37th|Triggertomcat is leet12:15
crimsunI need the make & model12:15
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|37th|Triggertomcat for presidant!12:16
|37th|Trigger>:P12:16
GenneXHendikins: ok i got wine installed, how do i go about now to get the windows application installed and working ?12:16
crimsunwine someapp.exe12:16
|37th|TriggerThat's not a bad idea12:16
|37th|Triggerinstall wine :)12:16
UncleD-crimsun: i manually changed /etc/network/interfaces - now reboot to test it?12:16
HendikinsGenneX: Have you taken a look at the documentation in the Wiki? If not, I suggest looking for Wine related articles. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/12:16
McSocrimsun: FCC ID 110-0232USB611, NEW-WUSB, R-LARN-03-0001, P/N: 18-AD-U611-EU, S/N: ALW130400406312:17
crimsunUncleD-: yes12:17
McSowoops NE-USB*12:17
McSocrimsun" need anything else?12:17
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crimsunMcSo: sec12:17
|37th|Triggerwhy do you allways put crimsun: or w/e?12:17
McSoso that he knows i'm talking to him12:17
Hendikins|37th|Trigger: Why? To indicate that we're talking to somebody in particular. It is helpful when the channel is busy.12:18
|37th|TriggerHendikins: Ahh ok :P12:18
Hendikins(or in some cases, force of habit)12:18
|37th|TriggerxD12:18
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|37th|Triggerwhat iso you downloading?12:19
Hendikinsubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386.iso12:19
Hendikins3,048,179,712 bytes. Not quick, even on cable.12:20
SweetestSavageWhat's the difference between the DVD ISO and the CD ISO?12:20
HendikinsI'm just assuming it has more stuff.12:20
encodeone DVD, several CDs12:20
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McSoseveral cds..? i installed ubuntu with only 1 cd :\12:21
SweetestSavageencode, yeah, but I only needed to download one CD.12:21
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crimsunMcSo: hmm...it's possible that the driver is too old12:21
HendikinsI'm guessing it simply has more packages than the CD, which is less to grab from the net12:21
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Hendikinswhich considering my normal connection is dial-up, is very useful to me12:22
McSocrimsun: i see.. so does that mean its basically useless in ubuntu..?12:22
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crimsunMcSo: not at all12:23
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McSooh12:23
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McSoso what next then?12:23
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crimsunMcSo: did you download atmelwlandriver-3.4.1.1.tar.bz2?12:23
McSoyes12:23
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JarG0nDoes anyone know if Ubuntu supports the AMD Athlon 64 X 2 CPU?12:24
HendikinsIt does12:24
HendikinsThe Linux kernel supports both SMP and x86_6412:24
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Hendikinsand I'd be quite surprised if Ubuntu shipped without an SMP kernel12:24
mjryep, should work just fine12:25
JarG0nGreat! Thanks!  I'm getting an installation error after the kernal loads, indicating "Cannot access tty;" something like that.12:25
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mjryou might need to manually install the SMP kernel to take advantage of the second core, not sure12:25
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mjrbut that's a matter of installing a package12:25
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JarG0n"kernel"12:26
JarG0nyes12:26
JarG0nAnd I'm a newb as well so :/12:26
Hendikinsand I'd expect the 32bit version to ship with an SMP kernel too12:26
jenda:)12:26
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Hoxzercan I make iso image with nero?12:26
Hoxzerfrom the files in HDD?12:27
crimsunMcSo: ok, cd to the unpacked source12:27
jendaHoxzer: dunno about nero but in Gnomebaker, it's "create image only"12:27
GenneXHendikins: How would I know what path to use when adding the Menu?12:27
JarG0nAre there specialized installation instructions for the Athlon 64 X 2 CPU?12:27
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s_spiff|AWAYinstalling KDE guys... wish me ebst of luck!12:27
HendikinsGenneX: I'm not an Ubuntu user, so that I can't help you with12:27
McSocrimsun: done12:28
Acidic32is it possible to install KDE instead of gnome, using Ubuntu not kubuntu?12:28
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CanYouHelpMePlzAcidic32: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:28
crimsunMcSo: ``make clean''12:28
crimsunMcSo: then ``CC=gcc-3.4 make usb buildonly=debug''12:29
McSocrimsun: it says no rule to make target 'clean'12:29
crimsunMcSo: erm, you aren't in the unpacked source12:29
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McSooh woops unpacked12:29
McSosorry12:29
McSook done that12:29
crimsunMcSo: both make steps?12:30
McSobut the gcc one it says " cannot create directory, no such file or directory"12:30
crimsunMcSo: make sure you've unpacked it in a writable directory. I used /tmp12:30
crimsunI've test-compiled 3.4.1.1 successfully, but I [obviously]  can't test it.12:30
Acidic32im on about at install time12:31
cafuegoJarG0n: Just use the amd64 or i386 installer, pick an SMP kernel when done.12:31
McSocrimsun: sorry... how do i do that? (make sure the directory is writable)12:32
crimsunMcSo: unpack the source in /tmp12:33
JarG0ncafuego>  Thanks!  Here is my exact error: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111578&highlight=access+tty%3B12:34
JarG0nI'll make note of that.12:34
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McSocrimsun: i still get hte same error sorry12:36
McSo"mkdir: cannot create directory, ... no such file or directory. make *** [isbvmetr]  error 112:36
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McSoi have to type in sudo maybe?12:37
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crimsunMcSo: err, there shouldn't be any need.12:38
cafuegoJarG0n: missing a device driver for your sata controller most likely.12:38
crimsunMcSo: do you have a /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) ?12:39
JarG0nhrm..12:39
cafuegoJarG0n: Did you boot the rescue cd and see if you can mount your disk?12:39
nashany one knows where i can get support for bttv?12:40
JarG0nnope, not yet.12:40
JarG0nwhich line indicates a hardware / driver problem?12:40
JarG0nALERT! /dev/sda1 does not exist. Dropping to a Shell!12:40
JarG0n?12:40
cafuegoyes12:40
cafuegoif the disk was found, /dev/sda1 should exist too.12:41
JarG0nI need to find references to these new terms.  I'm trying to dump Microsoft Windows.12:41
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McSocrimsun: yeah i'm pretty sure.. i have linux-headers-2.6.12-9 and linux-headers-2.6.12-9-38612:41
JarG0ndev means development, and sda means Shaolin-do12:41
JarG0nAssociation12:41
JarG0nlol12:41
crimsunMcSo: ok, add your user to the src group12:41
JarG0ncafuego> thanks for your help though12:42
McSocrimsun: how do i do that?12:42
cafuegodev = Device, sda = Scsi Disk 1 (sata looks like scso to the kernel), sda1 is partition 1 on /dev/sda12:42
crimsunMcSo: sudo adduser $USER src12:42
JarG0n!12:42
ubotuJarG0n: Are you on ritalin?12:42
McSocrimsun: done12:43
JarG0nNo, just a newb12:43
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cafuego!bot12:43
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.12:43
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crimsunMcSo: now you need to log out and back in to continue (or just log in on a separate virtual console)12:43
knubbeanyone who knows why i cant run wolfenstein enemy territory in full screen? when i set the resolution to 800x600 the game itself gets really small in a box to my lower left.12:43
brrrthello all12:43
JarG0nA bot just asked me if I am on Ritalin?12:43
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crimsunknubbe: you probably don't have 800x600 defined as a valid resolution12:43
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knubbelike if my graphics card didnt support scaling12:43
McSocrimsun: ok done12:43
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Katie^is there a file on ubuntu like usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386/param.h ???12:44
THE_DIRKhellow12:44
crimsunknubbe: grep Modes /etc/X11/xorg.conf|uniq12:44
UncleDzcrimsun: does ubuntu do backporting, where they fix bugs in new versions of say, php5.1.1 in the ver 5.0.5 that comes w/ ubuntu?12:44
crimsunKatie^: search using http://packages.ubuntu.com12:44
THE_DIRKhow do you connect with vnc??? i have no audio :S12:45
crimsunUncleDz: very, very rarely are non-security fixes backported12:45
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UncleDzcrimsun, so, i should edit my sources.list12:45
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knubbecrimsun: Modes           "1680x1050"12:45
UncleDzto get the latest version?12:45
crimsunMcSo: ok, now you should be able to run both of those make commands12:46
THE_DIRKhow do you get audio with vnc viewer?12:46
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HilBillygood morning12:46
McSoah ok12:46
crimsunknubbe: right. See how "800x600" isn't included?12:46
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knubbecrimsun: yes, you're right. thank you.12:46
knubbecrimsun: is it hard adding more resolutions?12:46
JarG0ncafuego> interestingly enough, I'm not using a sata hard disk.  I'm using IDE.  Why would I get an error about sata?12:46
McSocrimsun: i get the same error12:46
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HilBillyI installed the codecs from mplayer.  but when I try to play a .mp4 from totem, it won't play.  How do I link the codecs to make them available to totem?12:47
crimsunknubbe: not at all. Just ``sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'' and choose (add) 800x600 as an additional mode12:47
hydroksydehmmm12:47
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THE_DIRKcan some1 tell me how I get audio with vnc viewer??12:47
hydroksydexubuntu doesn't run well with 64MB of RAM12:47
crimsunknubbe: afterware, you'll need to restart gdm: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart12:47
brrrtsometimes when i logon to gnome my machine beeps in a high frequency (when playing the startsound, and later beeps at any audio output) and sometimes it completly shuts off a few seconds  after login12:47
hydroksydecompared to windows 9512:47
brrrttoday i had to restart it 5 times12:48
THE_DIRK=S12:48
crimsunhydroksyde: there are even lighter window managers and environments, like ion, pwm, openbox, etc.12:48
brrrtbut when it runs (with working sound) and stays12:48
UncleDzcrimsun: how about changing my sources.list to see latest version of php?12:48
brrrtit ok12:48
crimsunUncleDz: you don't necessarily get the latest12:48
McSocrimsun: could it be that maybe i havn't installed gcc-3.4 correctly or somthing ?12:48
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hydroksydecrimsun, maybe i'll make a "stubuntu"12:48
crimsunhydroksyde: go for it12:48
Sh4dhi12:49
THE_DIRKcan some1 help me with vnc?12:49
crimsunMcSo: does ``gcc-3.4 -v'' give you anything?12:49
brrrtany ideas? i have sblive and deaktivated onboardsound in bios12:49
UncleDzcrimsun: i know php5.0.5 is a version on ubuntu right now12:49
UncleDzcrimsun: 5.1.1 seems more recent12:49
McSocrimsun: yeah it does.12:49
crimsunUncleDz: unless there's a compelling reason to migrate to 5.1.1, I wouldn't.12:49
Sh4d:/12:49
crimsunUncleDz: "it's newer" is /not/ a compelling enough reason12:50
crimsunMcSo: you /don't/ have a /usr/src/linux, correct?12:50
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McSocrimsun: actually i do..12:50
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crimsunMcSo: that's bad.12:51
crimsunMcSo: what does it point to?12:51
McSooh.12:51
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McSousr/src/linux-source-2.6.1212:51
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crimsunMcSo: yeah, get rid of the /usr/src/linux symlink12:51
McSohow do i do that?12:52
crimsunsudo rm -f /usr/src/linux12:52
McSook done12:52
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crimsunnow try the two make commands again12:52
THE_DIRKcan some1 help me with vnc viewer?? i have no audio =S12:52
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kouweconverting a 120GB drive from NTFS to ext3 could that take forever?12:53
McSocrimsun: nope :\12:53
crimsunkouwe: depends whether you want to destructively convert it =)12:53
crimsunif you do, it takes a minute at most12:53
knubbecrimsun: i screwed up, can you give me the command again (ill trype it down this time) :)12:53
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knubbe-r12:54
crimsunknubbe: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:54
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knubbecrimsun: thank you. sorry for being a pain..12:54
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crimsunknubbe: after you finish that, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart12:54
crimsunMcSo: erm...what commands are you using?12:54
jendaHow would I make ls anly list directories?12:54
jenda*only12:55
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McSomake clean and CC=gcc-3.4 make usb buildonly=debug12:55
knubbecrimson: i use kde, not gdm. i think it restarted kde automatically (at least it did now when i pressed "esc" throught the whole setup process)12:55
knubbebrb12:56
bimberijenda: ls -l | grep ^d12:56
jendabimberi: thx12:56
bimberijenda: np :)12:57
HendikinsDoes Breezy have any major problems with being vmwared?12:57
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bungahi what command to see my version12:57
brrrthow can it be that my computer shuts off immediatly 5 seconds after login to gnome?12:57
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bimberibunga: of ubuntu?  -  "lsb_release -a"12:57
crimsunbunga: lsb_release -r12:57
crimsunMcSo: does ``make clean'' work?12:58
kouwecrimsun: well im being converting it now with gparted but its taking a 60 minutes...12:58
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McSocrimsun: well when i type it i get "*.o and *.ko files Removed"12:58
kouwewell its done as i speak :$12:58
crimsunMcSo: ok good.12:58
ompaulHendikins, no it may work but hoary works with it according to a friend of mine on the phone - his job supporting vmware12:59
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crimsunMcSo: make sure you're executing these commands as a normal user and not with sudo01:00
McSocrimsun: yeah its not with sudo01:00
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EnforsTrying to compile a program, but I seem to be missing glibc, or something. I did "apt-get install gcc", but I still don't have, for example, stdio.h What package should I install to get it?01:00
crimsunEnfors: build-essential (it's in libc6-dev)01:00
hydroksydeyeah01:00
EnforsThanks!01:00
hydroksydethat01:00
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jendabimberi: not good... I need it to be able to export a list of directories to a text file, and that has way too much info...01:00
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kouweis there a command to see some drive information01:01
kouwelike av. space etc01:01
Hendikinsompaul: Alrighty. I just lack enough hardware to run it outside of a virtual machine - and I'm not trashing my SuSE to run it on my dualie.01:01
EnforsI did get libc6 already, didn't realise there was a libc6-dev too. Downloading it now, thanks for the info (gotta love IRC...)01:01
crimsunMcSo: paste the output from ``CC=gcc-3.4 make usb buildonly=debug'' onto pastebin01:01
bimberikouwe: df -h   ?01:01
McSook01:01
crimsunEnfors: you had libc6 already. Your system wouldn't function without it.01:02
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bimberijenda: hm, ok01:02
ludiwhen is the next version of ubuntu due to be released?01:02
ompaulHendikins, then in theory you should have no issues with it as a guest (my words)01:03
igaaahi, does everyone know how to make an optical audio output work with alsa ?01:03
GoekHow do i know if my breeze badger update has worked?01:03
crimsunin mid-April01:03
Enforscirmsun: Uhmm, yeah, you're right ofcourse. Now that I think of it, apt-get probably said I already had it.01:03
crimsunigaaa: cat /proc/asound/cards01:03
crimsun(pastebin)01:03
GoekHow do i know if my breeze badger update has worked?01:03
Hendikinsompaul: Theory must be a nice place, everything works there :)01:03
ludiare there any good ways to lock down the ubuntu gnome environment for a classroom type setting?01:03
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crimsunGoek: if ``sudo apt-get upgrade'' doesn't pull anything new01:03
ludifor example in a school library computer01:03
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jendabimberi: I would imagine the exact same as "ls -R directory > file.txt" but only listing the dirs...01:03
Enforscrimsun: Actually, I've been using Linux since 1995 (version 1.2.1 back then), but I haven't used it much recently. I'm a bit out of touch as I'm sure you can tell =)01:04
ompaulHendikins, that has to go into the quotes db01:04
Madpilot!quotes01:04
ubotuhttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/quotes01:04
Hendikinsompaul: That's an old quote. I've used it for years, and certainly wasn't the first to do so.01:04
doinboxim still having a problem with my floppy and dvd-rw drives on ubuntu it keeps saying can not mount. so they are unusable what di i do to fix this plz plz plz help01:04
McSocrimsun: http://pastebin.com/49623801:04
kouwenow witch line should i put in fstab for mounting my new ext3 drive ?!01:04
Goekthen it worked01:04
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crimsunMcSo: cd && rm -rf atmelwlandriver01:05
bimberijenda: ls -l | grep ^d | awk '{print $8 $9 $10 $11}'          (for current directory tho)01:05
crimsunMcSo: then unpack it afresh01:05
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UncleDzcrimsun: Why must apache2-common be installed if i want to install php5?01:05
crimsunMcSo: then try the make commands again01:05
kouwenow witch line should i put in fstab for mounting my new ext3 drive ?!01:05
crimsunUncleDz: because it's dependency01:06
doinboxplz help01:06
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crimsundoinbox: use pmount to mount floppy diskettes01:07
crimsundoinbox: no idea for dvdrws01:07
grundocan someone point me a good Qt/KDE web tutorial site?01:07
McSocrimsun: thank you very much :D it worked!01:07
doinboxcrimsun is pmount already on ubuntu01:07
crimsundoinbox: yes01:07
doinboxwhat is it01:07
jendabimberi: almost there ( ls -lR directory | grep ^d | awk '{print $8 $9 $10 $11}' > file.txt ) except that it doesn't shouw the path of the subdirs01:07
crimsundoinbox: it's a mount utility for removable volumes for nonprivileged users01:08
bimberijenda: i knew you were going to say that :P01:08
grundo!Qt/KDE tutorial01:08
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, grundo01:08
doinboxcrimsun can pmount do dvd drives aswell01:08
hydroksydeold people are fat!01:08
crimsundoinbox: I don't know offhand01:08
doinboxok thankyou for your help01:08
jendabimberi: you're a prophet... :)01:08
McSocrimsun: it finished... whats next?01:08
mwegrundo: for qt trolltech's site is great01:09
grundook01:09
HilBillythis old fart gives hydroksyde a sample01:09
ompaulhydroksyde, be nice - look at the COC01:09
UncleDzcrimsun: how do you feel about adduser-ng - useful?01:09
crimsunMcSo: ``sudo make install && sudo depmod -e''01:09
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ompaul!coc01:09
ubotuI guess coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/01:09
crimsunUncleDz: I'm not familiar w/ it01:09
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ludiare there any good ways to lock down the ubuntu gnome environment for a classroom type setting?  for example in a school library computer01:09
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hydroksydeam I not allowed to make sweeping generalizations about groups of people?01:09
crimsunigaaa: please just ask here; I can't accept dcc chats.01:09
McSoit says " pcmcia, pci, bin, xllr6 bin } already exists. run #depmod -aeq after installation01:10
igaaacrimsun: here's the output from cat /proc/asound/cards: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/680301:10
igaaaok, no problem01:10
crimsunhydroksyde: on-topic discussion, please, otherwise use #ubuntu-offtopic01:10
hydroksydeludi, try a more restrictive window manager,01:10
Spee_DerGood morning everyone.01:10
hydroksydeludi, like blackbox or windowmaker, or e01:11
crimsunigaaa: ok, and what's your sound issue?01:11
ludiI don't want to try a more restrictive window manager01:11
crimsunigaaa: optical-out?01:11
ludiI want gnome01:11
ludiw/ lockdown controls suitable for a school library type environment01:11
hydroksydehmmm01:11
hydroksydeI don't know then01:11
crimsunigaaa: does ``aplay -Dplug:iec958 /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' produce audible sound?01:11
bimberijenda how about "find -type d" ?01:12
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UncleDzCan anyone recommend a good mailserver to use? hows courier?01:13
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Caiusif I install from a hoary ppc cd can I update to breezy without downloading a breezy ppc install cd?01:13
|37th|Triggerhello :)01:13
crimsunUncleDz: postfix01:13
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|37th|Triggercan anyone tell me why i cant drag files too a differant folder? :/01:13
crimsunCaius: yes01:13
Caius|37th|Trigger: they hate you01:13
Caiuscrimsun: ta01:14
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|37th|TriggerYea i figured that was around right :P01:14
UncleDzcrimsun: hows postfix compared to courier?01:14
jendabimberi: You got it man. Danke & Merci :)01:14
crimsunUncleDz: easier to configure and higher-performance01:14
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ompaul|37th|Trigger, your username does not own the files or the location that the files are being dropped to01:14
bimberijenda: np (phew) ;)01:15
McSocrimsun: i assume i type sudo depmod -aeq ??01:15
|37th|Triggerwell i cant login as root :/01:15
crimsunMcSo: -e01:15
McSo-e?01:15
jendalol01:15
crimsunMcSo: as in just -e01:15
McSooh so depmod -e01:15
crimsunMcSo: the other options don't exist01:16
McSoah ok01:16
McSowell i've done that01:16
McSonothing happened though?01:16
crimsunthat's good01:16
McSooh ok haha01:16
crimsunMcSo: so which amtel module are you supposed to load?01:16
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HendikinsAt least we get to the second part of installation01:16
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McSoi'm pretty sure its the at76c30501:17
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igaaacrimsun: the jack-output works well, with vlc, Beep, etc. However, I don't know how to make both coaxial and optical outputs work.01:17
McSowait sorry01:17
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mweUncleDz: |37th|Trigger do you have write access to the destination?01:17
McSoi'm pretty sure its the at76c50301:17
crimsunigaaa: "jack-output"?01:17
crimsunMcSo: so unload the current one you have loaded, then load the new one01:18
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McSocrimsun: sorry how do i do?01:18
C-O-L-Twho has installed ww2d program like google earth?????????????01:18
crimsunMcSo: pastebin lsmod output01:18
crimsunI need to sleep; I've been awake for 30 hours.01:19
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McSocrimsun: lol, sorry for keeping you up01:19
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igaaacrimsun: and I didn't hear any sound neither with the jack nor the coaxial output01:20
igaaacrimsun: yes, the headphones' output01:20
McSocrimsun: http://pastebin.com/49625501:20
crimsunigaaa: did you pastebin amixer output?01:21
crimsunMcSo: sudo modprobe -r at76c50301:21
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McSocrimsun: nothing happened01:21
crimsunMcSo: it shouldn't appear to. That's a good sign.01:22
McSoi see01:22
crimsunMcSo: if something doesn't work with modprobe, it'll spew errors.01:22
McSoah ok01:22
nightwatchhi there I cant get mp3 playing in my ubunto. I already installed amarok and download libmad01:22
crimsunnightwatch: what application?01:22
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nightwatchand install libmad too01:22
nightwatchamarok01:22
crimsunnightwatch: install gstreamer0.8-mad01:23
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McSocrimsun: so what next?01:23
crimsunif you're using the gstreamer engine, that is01:23
crimsunMcSo: now load the module you just unloaded01:23
McSocrimsun: sorry again.. how do i do that?01:23
crimsunMcSo: same command without the -r01:23
crimsun-r == remove01:23
McSoah ok01:23
McSoyeah01:24
McSonothing happened again, so its a good thing right01:24
nightwatchcrimsun:  that packet is not in the list01:24
crimsunnightwatch: enable universe.01:24
UncleDzcrimsun: do you recommend dovtecot+postfix?01:24
crimsunnightwatch: which engine are you using for amarok?01:24
crimsunUncleDz: I've heard it's a winning combination, but I can't personally vouch for it.01:25
McSocrimsun: what's next?01:25
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nightwatchcrimsun: crimsun GStreamer Engine01:25
igaaacrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/680401:25
mwenightwatch: I gave up gstreamer and installed amarok-xine and chose the xine engine in amarok settings. now it works fine01:25
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crimsunnightwatch: then yes, you'll need to enable universe and install gstreamer0.8-mad01:25
St0n3-C0lI want to run both gnome and kde on the same box and....I updated my repos to dapper and did kubuntu-desktop it gave one condition " To remove all gnome apps and install kde apps "01:26
crimsunMcSo: ifconfig01:26
nightwatchcrimsun: I did it.01:26
McSocrimsun: you want me to postbin it?01:26
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mwenightwatch: I couldn't get it to work with gstreamer either01:26
crimsunigaaa: you may need to mute 'IEC958 Capture Monitor'01:27
nightwatchmwe I will try it01:27
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mwenightwatch: maybe it will work for you as well01:27
crimsunMcSo: just tell me if it lists more than just lo01:27
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McSoyeah after lo thheres a bunch of info like the address and netmask and tx and rx packets and bytes01:27
apokryphosMcSo: any other sections, though.01:28
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McSoapokryphos: sorry i don't know what you mean?01:28
builderif [ -d "${MYDIR}" ]  fails if ${MYDIR} has a space in it, even when I escape the space. How can I get around this?01:28
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McSois lo a section?01:28
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crimsunMcSo: it's an interface01:28
McSook01:29
McSowell yeah.. it basically looks exactly the same as all the other ifconfigs01:29
crimsuneach interface would have TX/RX, etc.01:29
McSoah ok01:29
kestasbuilder, should work01:29
kestasworks here01:29
crimsunok, then you haven't uploaded the firmware, thus it won't work01:29
crimsunMcSo: follow the rest of the instructions regarding uploading the firmware01:29
igaaacrimsun: done, but I still don't hear any sound01:30
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CodenameKTls01:30
nightwatchI cant understand what is going on. I have activated universe repository ( I check it downloanding when I use aptitude) but those packets are not in the list. neither gstreamer0.8-mad or amarok-xine01:30
builderkestas, just escape the space when I define ${MYDIR} and double quote ${MYDIR} in the test right?01:30
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rounesomone using wlan and ubuntu here?01:30
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McSocrimsun: sorry.. where are the instructions?01:31
McSoon the readme?01:31
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crimsunMcSo: in the unpacked source01:31
crimsunroune: I am01:31
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rounewhat do i need to get it working? ^^01:31
rouneis there some kind of package?01:31
crimsunroune: please be more precise than that01:31
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zyzhi, I have trouble with xterm : Color name "black" is not defined01:31
nightwatchwhere is hardware compatibility list website?01:32
doinboxhey crimsun i cant find pmount anywhere can you help01:32
crimsunigaaa: cat /proc/asound/devices --> pastebin01:32
crimsundoinbox: open a Terminal and type pmount01:32
redguy|work!info gstreamer0.8-mad01:32
ubotugstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 144 kB01:32
McSocrimsun: thank you very much for all the help01:32
doinboxsorry once again but how do i open a terminal01:32
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rouneim sitting on my laptop, with builtin wlan, and got another computer with a wlan "dongle"? for the moment im using windows, coz i dont know how to get the wlan working on linux..01:32
crimsundoinbox: GNOME or KDE?01:33
redguy|worknightwatch: gstreamer0.8-mad is in universe. did you update your package lists?01:33
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McSobye01:33
doinboxok ive seen that gnome thanks01:33
crimsundoinbox: Applications> Accessories> Terminal01:33
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doinboxright got it01:33
rouneand now i want to connect to the other computer with the wlan, and get an internet connection01:33
crimsunroune: no, I mean hardware.01:33
doinboxthanks alot man01:33
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eyedol59Hello to everyone01:33
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hyakuheihi eyedol5901:34
rouneoh.. ^^01:34
nightwatchredguy|work: sure, aptitude update01:34
igaaacrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/680501:34
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crimsunigaaa: ok, use ``aplay -Dplughw:0,4 /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''01:35
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eyedol59i am trying to found a kernel that is suitable for my processor, coul anybody help me please?01:35
crimsuneyedol59: what processor?01:36
redguy|worknightwatch: no errors?01:36
igaaacrimsun: The probleme is that I want to use my external amplifier through the coaxial or optical output01:36
JarG0nSince when does Gaim support IRC?!01:36
igaaacrimsun: It gives no sound01:36
crimsunigaaa: ok, then please follow the troubleshooting steps in alsa.opensrc.org -> digital01:37
eyedol59i have a AMD 64 +3000 socket 754 processor01:37
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redguy|workJarG0n: it supports IRC for quite a time01:37
JarG0nI think I missed out on that feature!01:37
redguy|workeyedol59: do you have the 64 bit version of ubuntu intalled?01:37
rounewell, it says WLAN 802.11g mini-PCI Module, in the other computer i have "gigabyte (somting) usb", the internet is comming from an ADSL modem, sharing internet through ad_Hoc01:38
crimsuneyedol59: you can probably use linux-amd64-k801:38
eyedol59thats right01:38
igaaacrimsun: ok, thank you, I'm going to do so01:38
rouneso, i am not using a wireless router.01:39
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crimsunroune: pastebin the output from lspci -v01:40
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rounewell, im using dual boot,win and linux, becouse i dont know how to get the wlan working in linux, im at the moment using windows ^^01:40
Hendikinsompaul: Thumbs up with Workstation 5.501:40
nightwatchredguy|work: yes, cant find decoder... I think could be alsa .. I tried other distro but they were not compatible with my intel HDA audio system01:40
eyedol59how can i find out if that kernel you mencioned is suitable for my processor?01:40
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crimsunroune: I can't really help you if you're not running Linux at the moment01:41
crimsuneyedol59: install it?01:41
vlthi @all! i've the problem that the correct keyboard layout is installed under the xserver but i've no idea wehre i have to configure that for the naked console without the xserver. do you have any idea?01:41
rounebut, i cant ask questions, if i dont have an internet connection.....01:41
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eyedol59that is a little risky , don you think? :)01:41
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crimsuneyedol59: of course not. You don't remove the currently installed kernel.01:42
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crimsuneyedol59: so if the new one doesn't work, reboot and choose your current one.01:42
AxioplaseHi! I ve just upgrade my hoarty to breezy and X won t start because of an empty non executable /etc/X11/X... What am I supposed to do?01:42
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nightwatchwhat is going on with those repositories..  even flex can be found...01:42
rounesay, ive never used wlan b4 on linux, what is the first thing i should do to get it working?01:42
nightwatchand I update the packet list01:42
crimsunAxioplase: ls -l /etc/X11/X01:43
UncleDzcrimsun: How do i install java sdk 1.5?01:43
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crimsunUncleDz: ask the bot about java01:43
crimsunnightwatch: it seems you don't have the main repository enabled01:43
UncleDzhow?01:43
crimsun!java01:43
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs01:43
Axioplasecrimsun: it s a normal file... (plus I ve deleted it once trying a link)01:43
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crimsun(like that)01:43
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eyedol59mmm, okay i will try that, nevertheless i would like to know what "k8" means, because thats not how the AMD 64 processors are called,01:44
crimsunAxioplase: ...a normal file? It's supposed to be a symlink.01:44
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crimsuneyedol59: that's their classification.01:44
Axioplasecrimsun: it s not. What should I link it to?01:44
crimsunAxioplase: um, what is it then?01:44
nightwatchFailed to fetch http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release.gpg  Bad header line01:44
nightwatchcrimsun: look this ->01:45
nightwatchFailed to fetch http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Bad header line01:45
nightwatchFailed to fetch http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/source/Sources.gz  Got a single header line over 360 chars01:45
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crimsunnightwatch: so either kill your proxy or use a different mirror01:45
Axioplasecrimsun: it s now a normal file, as after any "touch file"01:45
ompaulHendikins, :-)01:45
nightwatchI did not edit it01:45
nightwatchis the default01:45
doinboxcrimsun i tried pmount but i dont unde3rstand stuff like that can you tell me what i need to type01:45
crimsunAxioplase: bad idea. sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/X11/Xorg /etc/X11/X01:46
crimsunAxioplase: err, hang on01:46
crimsunDapper's path differs01:46
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eyedol59okay, thank you for the assistance. Now i am going to install the kernel you recommended me. Bye bye01:46
grundowhere i can find good KDE programing web tutorial?01:46
katie_How do I change the port on bittorrent on ubuntu?01:46
yatesyread the man page01:47
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crimsunAxioplase: bad idea. sudo ln -sf /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg /etc/X11/X01:47
doinboxis there a beginners guide to pmount anywhere on the net01:47
crimsundoinbox: there's a man page01:48
crimsundoinbox: man pmount01:48
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grundowhere i can find good KDE programing web tutorial?01:48
crimsungrundo: use a Web search engine01:48
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apokryphosgrundo: developer.kde.org01:48
grundothank you01:48
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Axioplasecrimsun: thanks... looks like xorg was reinstalled during the update...01:49
s_spiff|AWAYhey my dad just typed out a document in OpenOffice 2.0 Writer01:49
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doinboxwhats a man page01:49
rounethis might be something to? ^^ http://perso.wanadoo.es/antlarr/tutorial/01:49
s_spiff|AWAY and tried saving it in MS 97/200/XP Office format01:49
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grundothe page developer.kde.org cannot be found01:49
rounetry this:C01:50
rounehttp://perso.wanadoo.es/antlarr/tutorial/01:50
s_spiff|AWAY it gave a error tht, the formatting of the documten is not in line with that of MS Office01:50
s_spiff|AWAY is it because of the fontrs?01:50
rounehttp://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/01:50
crimsunnap time.01:50
apokryphosgrundo: it exists....01:50
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rounehey, does anyone use wlan on linux, or got any ide how to get it work?01:51
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tabiascan someone help to change my keyboard to azerty instead of qwerty01:52
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doinboxplz help me. what do i type in pmount to mount my floppy drive01:52
Axioplasehummm...  How to install Xorg when XFree is still installed ?01:53
brenners_spiff|AWAY: what's the exact error wording?01:53
C-O-L-Talbacker-: hello01:53
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albacker-C-O-L-T, hi01:54
C-O-L-Talbacker-: I have been waiting you for 2 days01:54
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brennertabias: what language do you speak?01:54
albackerC-O-L-T, ive been here, only that we might have been online in different hours01:54
s_spiff|AWAYumm hold on01:54
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doinboxwhat do i type to mount my floppy drive using pmount?01:55
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s_spiff|AWAYThis document may contain formatting that cannot be saved in the MS Office 2000/XP file format. Do you want to save the file in this format anyway?01:56
brennertabias: try going thru sys > prefs > k/board > layout > add01:56
brenners_spiff|AWAY: that01:56
s_spiff|AWAYyeah?01:56
brenneris a warning01:56
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nightwatchthere are any similar to flex in universe ubuntu packet list?01:56
brennersorry, pressed the enter key accidentaly01:56
s_spiff ok.. so I go ahead and save na?01:56
s_spiffnp :P01:57
brenners_spiff: yes, but like it says, some of the content may be weird when you open it in ms office01:57
nightwatchI need flex to compile some thing01:57
doinboxwhat do i type to mount my floppy drive using pmount?01:57
s_spiffso basically its due to the fonts right?01:57
s_spiff I'll have to instal;l new fonts.01:57
gazis it bad practice to use .deb packages for hoary if im using breezy or should it be fine?01:57
brennernightwatch: the flex package doesn't work for you?01:58
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brenners_spiff: possibly.  i'm not sure what your font setup is like01:58
s_spiffhuh?01:58
nightwatchbrenner: sure, but is not in packet list01:58
s_spiffdefault font, whatever linux installed01:58
UncleDzcrimsun: ty for the help01:58
brennernightwatch: looks like it's in main01:58
brennernightwatch: are your sources alright?01:58
katie_how do i run bittornado after installing it01:59
tabiasbrenner, tried that but it keeps in qwerty don't know why I selected a azerty layout. although I'm just trying it in vmware but that shouldn't be a problem01:59
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brenners_spiff: hang on.  i'm gonna try save a doc01:59
s_spifflol ok.01:59
doinboxwhat do i type to mount my floppy drive using pmount?01:59
brennerkatie_: type it in a terminal01:59
katie_i did02:00
doinboxahhhhh02:00
katie_katie@AutoBitch:~$ bittornado02:00
katie_bash: bittornado: command not found02:00
katie_katie@AutoBitch:~$ bittornado-gui02:00
katie_bash: bittornado-gui: command not found02:00
nightwatchbrenner: I'm not sure anymore.. it should be, due I didnot edit it and has just installed. but when I added pt repository I get that br repositories were down... if you can, please send me an international (english or portuguese) that really works.02:00
s_spiffbrenner, if I install a program, how to create a shortcut icon for it on the desktop? otherwise I'll have to go into the terminal all the time and then type out the command, which I think is sort of paionful02:00
salomoHello! I have a dilemma with firestarter: I have two network interfaces which connect my laptop to the Internet.They are WLAN and wired ethernet. Now, is there a way to make firestarter figure out, which one is in use so it could protect the right interface?02:00
brenners_spiff: i get it the warning too.02:00
s_spiffhehe02:00
doinboxplease can some one answer me.what do i type to mount my floppy drive using pmount?02:01
s_spiffits cuz, all the linux installed fonts are not the MS office default02:01
_nulldoinbox, pmount -w /dev/floppy probably02:01
apokryphoskatie_: do not paste in here02:01
doinboxthankyou null02:01
_nullno problem02:01
brenners_spiff: i think it's more of a general warning...compatibility with ms' document format ain't perfect02:02
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s_spiffanyways, I'll be back later, dad wants to finish typing his document..02:02
s_spiffhmm ok..02:02
katie_ok02:02
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s_spiff will check it out on ms later02:02
s_spiff cya02:02
s_spiff and thanks02:02
brennerkatie_: what package did you install the app by?02:02
katie_When I type bittornado in the terminal it says that bash: bittornado: command not found.02:02
katie_There.02:02
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katie_i just did apt-get install bittornado-gui,02:02
brenners_spiff{AWAY}: save it in oo.org's format as well (as a backup)02:02
brennerkatie_: ok, does it show up in the app menu?02:03
mwekatie_: then type bittornado-gui02:03
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nightwatchbrenner: can you?02:03
katie_it's ok02:03
mwekatie_: or bitto<tab>02:03
katie_i didn't know there was going to be in the application menu02:03
brennerubotu: tell nightwatch about repos02:03
phreak97ok, azureas will download to my desktop fine, but not to a folder on another partition which has exactly the same permissions02:04
phreak97i want it fixed02:04
phreak97how?02:04
katie_and when i tab it nothing comes up, or when i type in bittornado-gui same as before02:04
katie_but still it's weird, i mean i thought i could just type ittorndao and it'd work02:04
mwekatie_: dpkg -L bittornado-gui|grep bin to find the binary02:05
salomoHello! I have a dilemma with firestarter: I have two network interfaces which connect my laptop to the Internet.They are WLAN and wired ethernet. Now, is there a way to make firestarter figure out, which one is in use so it could protect the right interface?02:05
redguy|worksalomo: hrm, how about protecting both?02:05
katie_then what?02:05
katie_lol02:06
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brennerkatie_: no, not all apps install to the app menu.  i was just checking02:06
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brennerkatie_: did that command return any results?02:06
katie_erm yes, lol btcompletedirgui.bittornado02:07
katie_and 2 others02:07
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brennereh?02:07
JarG0nI think it would be more appropriate to have bittorrent's "not running" health icon use x's for the eyes to show the torrent is inactive.02:07
katie_/usr/bin/btcompletedirgui.bittornado02:08
katie_ and 2 others like that02:08
salomoredguy|work, I suppose that with firestarter you can set active only one internet interface at once.02:08
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JarG0nAzureus I mean...02:08
brennergee, that's a weird filename02:09
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mwekatie_: btdownloadgui02:09
katie_danka02:09
mwekatie_: next time you log in to gnome you'll probably have a shortcut too02:10
Spee_DerCan someone tell me how to stop XINE in Ubuntu v5.10 please. The program will not respond.02:10
yatesypkill xine02:10
katie_ahhh good02:10
Hendikinskill -9?02:10
Spee_DerThank you yatsey.02:10
brenneror you could just do a 'killall gnome-panel' to refresh02:10
katie_i dont like having to type loads of crap just to get a program to run lol02:10
katie_lazy :(02:10
yatesyHendikins: thats a last resort02:10
brennerkatie_: it might not add one though.  do you know about smeg?02:10
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HendikinsMaybe I'm just lazy - I use killall -9 first.02:11
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katie_smeg?02:11
katie_no, i haven't heard of it before02:11
yatesyHendikins: you'll run into problems eventually doing that all the time :)02:11
Spee_DerSorry, pkill xine did not work.02:11
mwekatie_: no of course. that's one of the things a window manager should spare you, typing a lot all the time02:11
apokryphoskatie_: /msg ubotu smeg02:11
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Hendikinsyatesy: Haven't done so in the 4 years I've been playing with Linux on the desktop, although I'm careful about just what I kill.02:11
brennerkatie_: if you don't get a shortcut, you can add one yourself using smeg.  apps > sys tools > app menu editor02:12
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yatesyHendikins: just be warned, anything that caches data before writing won't have a chance to write it to disk before its killed using -902:12
yatesyHendikins: database servers for example02:12
Spee_DerI will study further the kill command, thank you.02:12
Hendikinsyatesy: I don't tend to kill those.02:13
katie_thank you :)02:13
yatesyHendikins: you're probably fine then :)02:13
Hendikinsand I don't always send a signal 9 either (but that's another matter)02:14
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katie_how do i isntall this?02:14
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albacker~java02:15
katie_i extracted the deb02:15
albacker!java02:15
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs02:15
doinboxim gonna kill myself linux drives me mad02:15
albacker!javadebs02:15
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy02:15
cleowhats the difference between hotplug and hal?02:15
brennerkatie_: install what?02:15
HendikinsI can see I'm going to be busy doing work on the FirefoxPlugins page...02:15
pinucsetone think, how can i extract a .ace?02:15
doinboxi still cant get my floppy to mount i have tried -w/dev/floppy in pmount but it says bad command02:15
doinboxplz help02:15
HendikinsAnyone want to donate some PPC hardware to me to work on Firefox docs with? :P02:15
katie_alacarte menu thing02:15
cleo!ace02:16
ubotucleo: I don't know02:16
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thegladiatorubuntu is simply great02:16
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CanYouHelpMePlzthegladiator: agreed02:16
HendikinsI'm only poking at it, and I'm a bit underwhelmed *shrug*02:16
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doinboxgladiator how do i mount a floppy drive in it then if it is so great02:16
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brennerkatie_: try out smeg 1st (previous incarnation of alacarte).  it's aready installed: apps > sys tools > app menu editor02:16
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St0n3-C0lWho is using KDE 3.5 here ? :P02:17
HendikinsI'm running KDE 3.5, but not on *ubuntu02:17
katie_oh02:17
katie_lol02:17
katie_i must sound like a complete idiot.02:17
doinboxoh come on somebody must know02:17
mweSt0n3-C0l: I am02:17
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St0n3-C0lI updated dapper repos and did kubuntu-install but it asked me to remove all gnome apps and install kde apps02:18
thegladiatori am on 3.4.3 , badly want to try 3.502:18
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HendikinsI compiled 3.502:18
mwewhy02:18
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St0n3-C0lIs that good ?02:18
JarG0n!bot02:18
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.02:18
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St0n3-C0lLOL02:18
brennerkatie_: not at all :)02:18
mwekubuntu project page has kde 3.5 for apt02:18
JarG0nubotu: Are you on ritalin?02:18
CanYouHelpMePlz!botsnack02:18
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, JarG0n02:18
ubotu:)02:18
JoeBlowwow, windows 32 bit really sucks, it cant even read a sata drive properly if it has a linux partition02:18
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mwethegladiator: add the url to your sources.list to get kde 3.502:19
doinboxhow do i mount a floppy in pmount please02:19
JoeBlowso whats up?02:19
brennerweird.  adblock won't install for me02:19
thegladiatorthank you02:19
doinboxi have tried -w/dev/floppy but thats not right02:19
St0n3-C0latm I am compiling firefox 1.5 :P02:19
knubbethegladiator: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php02:19
mwethegladiator: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main02:19
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St0n3-C0land dun know why backports not making update of firefox 1.502:19
doinboxi have only installed ubuntu last night so everything is where it should be02:19
JoeBlowkubuntu just looks different graphically right? like all the rest is the same?02:20
HendikinsSt0n3-C0l: Fun.02:20
gnomefreakSt0n3-C0l, they wont be for a while02:20
mweSt0n3-C0l: because it would break stuff02:20
gnomefreakstill alot of bugs in FF1.502:20
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HendikinsAt least you guys don't have to support the thing :)02:20
mweSt0n3-C0l: like 50 apps using gecko02:20
brennerJoeBlow: yep.  kde instead of gnome.  different package mgrs iirc though02:20
Hendikinsand yes, a major Gecko upgrade can prove to be quite problematic.02:20
brennerbut the 'engine' is the same02:21
mwegnomefreak: they never will backport firefox1.5. It will break too much02:21
stripswhats the case og ATI versus Nvidia regarding ease of driver installation?02:21
gnomefreakmwe, they had plans to02:21
mwegnomefreak: I see02:21
brennerstrips: general string i've heard is nvidia's are more successful02:21
gnomefreakmwe, backports are not official anyway :)02:21
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mwegnomefreak: It would still break02:21
thegladiatormwe, how can I download the deb ?02:21
stripsbrenner: i've only used nvidia myself...02:22
gnomefreakmwe, i agree but i had heard they were going to backport it but dont know where they stand on that anymore02:22
thegladiatormwe, how I go about using that link ?02:22
mwethegladiator: add what I pasted to the end of /etc/apt/sources.list then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:22
HuffalumpI am trying to Enable Interface for my ath0 (wifi card).  It appears to enable (green checkmark) for just a moment, like less than a second.  Then automagically reverts back to disabled (red x).  I am using a Kubuntu-64 live cd (and tried asking the friendly folks on #kubuntu with no answer).02:22
thegladiatoryep02:22
mwethegladiator: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main02:22
St0n3-C0lhmm02:22
HendikinsWe're supposed to be releasing a Firefox 1.5.0.1 this month02:22
mwethegladiator: put that at the end02:22
thegladiatoryep02:22
SweetestSavageHi there, I've got a problem.. when running MySQL Administrator, and I click on "User Administration", it automatically closes. This is on Breezy 5.10 AMD64 build of Ubuntu02:23
St0n3-C0lmwe;: Repo for installing 3.5 ?02:23
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mweSt0n3-C0l: yeah02:23
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gnomefreak!easysource02:23
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:23
thegladiatorwhere is the sources.list directory02:23
St0n3-C0lGuess what...after dapper update Synaptic reacting very strange02:23
gnomefreakthere is the repo for kde 3.5 and should tell you how to do it02:24
knubbethegladiator: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php02:24
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St0n3-C0lWhen I click on Repositories...it starts updating them :P02:24
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knubbethegladiator: please read on that url02:24
St0n3-C0l/usr/apt/sources.list02:24
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thegladiatorthanks02:24
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gnomefreakSt0n3-C0l,  dapper is broken :)02:24
St0n3-C0lit's usr or etc?02:24
St0n3-C0lno it's /etc/apt/sources.list02:24
brennerSweetestSavage: try running the app thru terminal.  it might spit out some error messages when it closes02:24
mwegnomefreak: I think the ubuntu design is broken, not providing firfox as a seperate package, keeping the old gecko as standalone, making it easy to upgrade firfox, but that's probably just me02:24
gnomefreak/etc/apt/source.list02:24
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St0n3-C0lehe02:24
HuffalumpSo, my question is:  can anyone point me in the right direction to Enable my ath0 wireless network device?02:24
katie_whats the best client to play mp3s on?02:24
SweetestSavagebrenner, okay thanks I'll try02:25
netstardpkg -i automatically upgrades existing packages right?02:25
St0n3-C0lgnomefreak: I didn't update my system just updated the repos and now back on breezy repos02:25
gnomefreakmwe, i can agree with that02:25
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mwegnomefreak: I heard it will change in dapper02:25
gnomefreakmwe, im sure it will but long way to go for that02:26
brennerkatie_: i like beep-media-player myself, but...02:26
brenner!players02:26
ubotuit has been said that players is Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC02:26
cupOcocoaI need my wireless internet to work...02:26
mwegnomefreak: yeah02:26
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gnomefreakdpkg -i <packagename> installs a .deb package02:26
St0n3-C0lkatie_: For KDE 'Amarok' For Gnome Mplayer Or Totem02:26
St0n3-C0lTotem's recent update also got bugs02:26
St0n3-C0l1.2.102:26
St0n3-C0lplay one song and when u go for another one02:26
St0n3-C0lit crashes02:26
St0n3-C0l:p02:26
apokryphoskatie_: though note that you can run any kde application in gnome (and visa versa).02:26
katie_what does kde stand for? does it stand for anything?02:27
katie_lol02:27
mwekatie_: K Desktop Environment02:27
katie_ty02:27
gnomefreakapokryphos, eh any is a streach :(02:27
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Hendikinsno idea what the K stands for though02:27
St0n3-C0lapokryphos: Surely can but do u know how much load does it takes?02:27
St0n3-C0lK desktop environment :P02:27
mwekatie_: what K stands for is a mystery02:27
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gnomefreakK stands for K02:27
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Perversusbuenas tardes a todos02:27
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gnomefreak!es02:28
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:28
katie_my first ever experiment with liunux was with knoppix02:28
katie_then gnoppix, then i tried freebsd, then this02:28
katie_lol02:28
Perversuslol02:28
apokryphosgnomefreak: as a general rule, yes -- pretty much any. Little proccesses like kdesktop might work differently, but of course I'm presuming you wouldn't want to run KDE on GNOME02:28
mwegnomefreak: there have been several speculations as to what the K really stands for :)02:28
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apokryphosSt0n3-C0l: not that slow; it just means it'd have to load some extra libs.02:28
gnomefreakapokryphos, true02:28
St0n3-C0lnobody knows :P02:28
doinboxhow do i mount my floppy drive in pmount on ubuntu please will someone answer me02:28
gnomefreaki know i know Krap?02:28
katie_gnome is the little foot right?02:29
mwegnomefreak: that's one guess yes :)02:29
gnomefreakkatie_, that is the symbol yes02:29
HuffalumpI prefer KDE over gnome, but not enough to get religious about it.02:29
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mwegnomefreak: or Kool02:29
ThrontelDoes anyone here know alot about linux?02:29
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gnomefreak!someone02:29
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>02:29
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mweHuffalump: I probably shouldn't mention Linus dispites gnome and loves kde :)02:30
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gnomefreakhe does?02:30
pl_icehey ya, any ideas if i make iso image with dd will that open u/d windows box?02:30
mwegnomefreak: yeah02:30
yaccSt0n3-C0l: K Desktop Environment, it's just a meaning less recursion point :)02:30
kestashe said he uses KDE over GNOME because it's more configurable02:30
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mwegnomefreak: but we shouldn't start that discussion in here02:30
gnomefreaki think KDE looks lil too much like windows :(02:30
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gnomefreakmwe,  point taken :)02:31
CanYouHelpMePlzi heart gnome.02:31
gnomefreakcoffee brb02:31
ThrontelWell I can't get the synaptic package manager to work, when I press it the computer start working and after that it just stops and no window or anything pops up :S02:31
CanYouHelpMePlz!start distrowar02:31
ubotuCanYouHelpMePlz: I give up, what is it?02:31
rickardHow do I build a IFS driver by using gcc?02:31
redguy|work!start desktopwar02:31
uboturedguy|work: Are you smoking crack?02:31
mwelol02:31
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doinboxcan some please explain to me how to mount my floppy drive in pmount please you dont understand how late i was up last night trying to figure this out. please help02:32
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katie_can't you google?02:32
katie_"mount floppy drive pmount" or something02:32
doinboxkatie r you talkin to me02:32
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doinboxi tried googling but cant find anything straigthforward anywhere02:33
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netstaris it safe to mix debian apt sources with ubuntu's?02:33
mwenetstar: no02:33
knubbenetstar: no02:33
gnomefreakdoinbox, if youve been at it all night i suggest you take a good break and get back to it02:33
SweetestSavagebrenner, I can't run the same program in the terminal, I tried02:33
mwenetstar: don't do it02:33
redguy|worknetstar: not recommended02:33
netstar:P02:33
St0n3-C0lone thing02:33
brennerdoinbox: why are you using it anyway?  no DE?02:33
St0n3-C0lwhy Linus preferred KDE ?02:33
katie_i would tell you, but i dont know either02:33
katie_but i dont have a floppy drive anyway02:33
katie_*shudders*02:33
kesslerI just installed the nvidia drivers. However, when i use nvidia in the xorg.conf i get a black screen, and the log says something about hsync being out of range. However, if i change nvidia to nv in xorg.conf, kde starts up just fine. What could be wrong? nvidia, nvidia_agp and agpgart modules are loaded02:33
gnomefreaknetstar, do it and you have a great chance of screwing ubuntu up02:33
netstarSt0n3-C0l, because he's difficult.02:33
doinboxwhy am i using my floppy02:34
St0n3-C0lapokryphos: I think you're right02:34
St0n3-C0lLOL02:34
mweSt0n3-C0l: please dont continue that here. go to #ubuntu-offtopic. rad http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html however. but don't comment on it anymore, please02:34
brennerSweetestSavage: really? what error do you get?02:34
kestaskessler, perhaps your hsync value is out of rance?02:34
netstarGNOME is fine,  and a productive environment.02:34
St0n3-C0lalright :)02:34
katie_You know the guy that created linux, where are they from?02:34
katie_*guys02:34
brennerdoinbox: no, why are you using terminal to mount one?02:34
kesslerkestas: i used the settings specified in my manual to my screen (19" lcd)02:34
SweetestSavagebrenner, I mean, it's not available. Like, you can run the it via terminal, but the terminal exits once you do run it02:34
sjgGot some serious issues with my x configuration, now when I first installed this machine with breezy it worked perfect. Although I dont know what I did to change it. What would be the easist way to go back to the original configuration of x? where it acutally worked? I really dont want to reinstall.?02:34
netstarplus, what does Linus know about GUI anyway?02:35
doinboxbecause my dvd0rw needs mounting aswell so i put my modem drivers on to a floppy disc02:35
brennerkatie_: it *is* guy actually02:35
mwesjg: you can't if you didn't make a backup02:35
mwesjg: you'll have to reconfigure it02:35
SweetestSavagebrenner, nevermind I got the terminal to stay.. it says Segmentation Fault02:35
_xetconfigure: error: Could not find XpmReadFileToPixmap in -lXpm.02:35
katie_I met this guy on the train once02:35
brennerSweetestSavage: ah.02:35
katie_and he said he knew the guy that created linux02:35
_xetWhy do I get that when I'm trying to compile pekwm?02:35
katie_lol02:35
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SweetestSavagebrenner, any possible way to fix it?02:35
mwesjg: back up what you have now and do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:35
_xet*configue02:35
_xet*configure :)02:36
sjgmwe: Yep, definitely didnt back it up, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didnt work though.02:36
rickardhow do I install a "install.sh" file?02:36
St0n3-C0lnetstar: Yeah it is but m too desperate bout KDE 3.5 :P02:36
mwesjg: how didn't it work?02:36
brennerdoinbox: i've never used pmount.  i always used mtools02:36
gnomefreaklinus created linux02:36
netstarSt0n3-C0l, trust me, it sucks.02:36
St0n3-C0lehe02:36
St0n3-C0lsay anything which I don't know :P02:36
doinboxbrenner what is mtools is it already installed on ubuntu02:36
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brennerSweetestSavage: i'm not sure.  it could be an app bug.  have you searched the forum/s?02:36
sjgmwe, well, I ran that tool, filled in the info it asks for and still no workie :P02:36
ubuntufpd02:36
ubuntuss02:36
ubuntufds.,fd02:36
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SweetestSavagebrenner, no, this is a fairly isolated cause.. I'm going to try one last thing02:36
ubuntufdg02:36
ubuntufdg02:37
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mwesjg: sure you filled in the correct info?02:37
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sjggonnatry again :P02:37
gnomefreakdoinbox, no its not already installed you have to install it and it gives you a bunch of tools to do things like write to floppy02:37
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St0n3-C0lmy synaptic messed up!02:37
brennerkatie_: well it's possible i guess...his name is linus torvalds if you're interested02:37
mwesjg: can't you get in to X windows at all?02:37
doinboxbut how can i install it if my floppy and dvd drive wont worl02:37
gnomefreakubotu tell ubuntu about enter02:37
chmod775!fonts02:38
uboturumour has it, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto02:38
brennerdoinbox: no, it's not installed by default02:38
gnomefreakdoinbox, you cant install it you dont need your hardware working to install it02:38
sjgmwe: nope02:38
rickardIt says "Build the IFS driver by using the gcc compiler provided by02:38
rickard   Linux (this step will make the binary module)." what should I do?02:38
gnomefreaksudo apt-get install mtools02:38
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nightwatchhi guys I fix my problem with dependencies.. I added an testing repository from debian. to do not cause problems I disable it afer intall what I wanted02:38
katie_he asked me to write02:38
katie_in this magazine for linux users02:38
katie_why linux is better than windos02:38
gnomefreaknightwatch, thats a bad idea very bad idea02:38
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katie_ew, nightwatch the movie was crap02:39
mwesjg: if rerunning sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't help come back and I'll try to help you out02:39
St0n3-C0lwhich magzine ?02:39
doinboxgnomefreak my internet is not working cause my drivers are on a floppy disk so how can i get mtools on ubuntu02:39
gnomefreakpeople please dont use debian repos in ubuntu use ubuntu repos02:39
chmod775!firefox02:39
brennerkatie_: is this your 1st distro?02:39
nightwatchgnomefreak: but I cannot get firefox, or flex in normal repositories02:39
katie_no02:39
gnomefreakubotu tell chmod775 about ff1.502:39
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gnomefreaknightwatch, what firefox cant you get?02:39
deFrysk!info xmoto02:39
kestasdoinbox, you need to know the device node of the floppy disk and the filesystem02:40
nightwatchgnomefreak: theres no packed call firefox or mozilla firefox02:40
gnomefreak!ff1.502:40
chmod775gnomefreak, thanks02:40
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion02:40
gnomefreakchmod775, yw02:40
kesslerI just installed the nvidia drivers. However, when i use nvidia in the xorg.conf i get a black screen, and the log says something about hsync being out of range. However, if i change nvidia to nv in xorg.conf, kde starts up just fine. What could be wrong? I used the settings for vsync/hsync specified in the manual. nvidia, nvidia_agp and agpgart modules are loaded02:40
gnomefreaknightwatch, ubuntu has most debian packages if not all plus their own02:41
sjgmwe: nope no work02:41
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brenneris it worth upgrading to 1.5?02:41
kestaskessler, I answered you earlier but you didnt respond02:41
mwesjg: ok. are you using the graphical login?02:41
gnomefreakno02:41
sjgmwe: looking over the logs right now02:41
aeon17xbrenner: yes.02:41
kestaskessler, oh nm02:41
gnomefreakff1.5 isnt all that stable in ubuntu02:41
sjgmwe: not right now, got no x at all02:41
doinboxkestas how do i find that info out02:41
mwesjg: but normally?02:41
kesslerkestas: i think i did answer you before. I use the settings specified in the manual02:41
brennergnomefreak: oh.02:41
kestaskessler, so what hsync value are you using?02:41
St0n3-C0lis there any possibility I compile Firefox 1.5 over Firefox 1.07 ?02:42
kestasdoinbox, google I guess02:42
kestasdoinbox, I don't have a floppy but it's something like 'sudo mkdir /mnt/floppy && sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd01440 /mnt/floppy'02:42
St0n3-C0lbecause on removing firefox 1.07...it's asking me to remove some other apps too02:42
gnomefreakbrenner, i will go as far as to say "it works" thats about it02:42
kesslerkestas: let me check... 30-8202:42
sjgmwe: Yep, normally graphical login02:42
brennergnomefreak: i see.  thanks for the heads up02:42
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gnomefreakyw02:42
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Yangowhere are the logs of Xorg located?02:42
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sjgIm the only user of the system, and have it set to auto login, But I dont usually log out, Just lock the screen02:43
mwesjg: pastebin the most recent file in /var/log/gdm/ as well as /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:43
doinboxoh sod it im just gonna get rid of linux its crap02:43
doinboxsee ya02:43
gnomefreakif it ever becomes stable in enough in dapper they may backport it to breezy other than that i wont use it on breezy02:43
Yangothanks mwe :)02:43
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kestasdoinbox, bye02:43
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sjghmm pastebin..02:43
gnomefreak-in02:43
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CanYouHelpMePlzso breezy is the best ubuntu has to offer at this point? i mean since dapper is in developement02:43
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St0n3-C0lIs there any way out I can configure mozilla-mplayer plugin and set my http proxy ???02:44
mweYango: for what?02:44
gnomefreakCanYouHelpMePlz, yes breezy has the most recent working packages02:44
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netstarCanYouHelpMePlz, yeah.  What are your issues?02:44
kemikSt0n3-C0l:  what do you mean "configure" mozilla.mplyer?02:44
YangoYango where are the logs of Xorg located? => mwe sjg: pastebin the most recent file in /var/log/gdm/ as well as /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:44
gnomefreakjust install mplayer :(02:44
kemikSt0n3-C0l:  and proxies are setup in firefox preferences02:44
mweYango: oh02:45
St0n3-C0lkemik: i wanna set http proxy for that02:45
gnomefreak!mplayer02:45
ubotuit has been said that mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106102:45
St0n3-C0lit's already setup02:45
St0n3-C0lbut it doesn't read proxy settings from there02:45
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St0n3-C0lgnomefreak: LOL it's installed already :P02:45
kemikso mplayer doesnt use the proxy settings ??02:45
St0n3-C0lyeah02:45
kemikweird02:45
St0n3-C0lmplayer plugin02:45
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thegladiatormwe, i added the line to sources.list02:46
sjgmwe: figuring out how to pastebin these files easily :P02:46
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mweSt0n3-C0l: I thought it'd use whatever ff is using02:46
thegladiatormwe, and did apt-get update02:46
mwesjg: yeah02:46
thegladiatormwe, still in adept what shud I search for ?02:46
mwethegladiator: first update02:46
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St0n3-C0lmwe: mee too but it's not happening02:46
mwethegladiator: use the terminal I don't know adept02:47
thegladiatoryep02:47
mweSt0n3-C0l: weird. sounds broken02:47
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St0n3-C0lnormally mplayer works02:47
St0n3-C0leverything works02:47
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s_spiffhello02:47
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St0n3-C0lwhen I open firefox and click on any movie02:47
mwethegladiator: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should get the new kde if kde is already installed02:48
St0n3-C0lit just do not detect my proxy and it tries to load directly from internet :P02:48
St0n3-C0lwhich is not possible :>02:48
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s_spiffrraajj : u from india by any chance?02:48
CanYouHelpMePlzquick somone name a good ubuntu program.02:48
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St0n3-C0lLOL02:48
rraajjs_spiff: Nope. Sorry.02:48
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mwesjg: maybe just paste grep ^EE from those files02:49
irvinCanYouHelpMePlz, nano02:49
gnomefreakgood ubuntu program=ubuntu02:49
CanYouHelpMePlzlol :-p02:49
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zerodethhi02:49
zerodethi am ne in linux02:49
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mwebrb02:49
CanYouHelpMePlzwgt is cool ;-P02:49
CanYouHelpMePlzwget*02:49
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gnomefreakwelcome to the "fun" side zerodeth02:49
St0n3-C0lIt is and now I've to remove synaptic completely and install it back02:50
s_spiffhey anyone knows where I can get more of these toys for the desktop?02:50
zerodethanyone can help me howa can i install downloader x02:50
yanchengls > dirlist 2>&102:50
yanchengwill direct both standard output and standard error to the file dirlist02:50
St0n3-C0lzerodeth: apt-get install d4x02:50
jendaCanYouHelpMePlz: my all time favorites are rm, mv and ls...02:50
yanchengls 2>&1 > dirlist02:50
yanchengwill only direct standard output to dirlist.02:50
YangoI'm having speed and responsiveness problems in breezy, which didn't happen before... top shows a heavy load (> 2) and no direct culprit besides Xorg. When I restart the notebook and don't start too many programs it behaves smoothly and quickly, but once I fire up one program too many, it gets sluggish and there's no way to get it back on track even closing everything02:50
St0n3-C0lor see Synaptic for d4x02:50
yanchengHowever, I do see "ls 2>&1 > dirlist" in some bash script. May I know what is the purpose for that?02:50
CanYouHelpMePlzjenda: and what are those?02:50
gnomefreaksudo apt-get install :))02:50
Yangodo any of you have a clue about what/where to look for?02:50
jendaCanYouHelpMePlz: remove, move and list02:51
JarG0nDo third party sata drivers need to be loaded in Ubuntu even if sata is not being used?02:51
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CanYouHelpMePlzjenda: oh lol..02:51
St0n3-C0lgnomefreak: thanks for the correction :P02:51
SweetestSavageDoes anyone know of an alternative GUI MySQL administrator program to MySQL-Administrator?02:51
brennergnomefreak: i reckon you win. :)02:51
gnomefreak:( confused JarG0n you dont have sata drives but you want to install something for them?02:52
YangoSweetestSavage: DBDesigner02:52
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gnomefreakn00bs dont relize sudo is needed :( thats all i meant for fixing it02:52
Yangoalthough that's more of a designer than an administrator :)02:52
IdleOneJarG0n>  i wouldmt think so02:52
SweetestSavageYango, thanks02:53
thegladiatori cant open no web links from XChat02:53
gnomefreakhold down ctrl and left click the link thegladiator02:54
thegladiatori have to manually riht click on the link and click on open with konqueror02:54
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St0n3-C0lthegladiator: u are from India ?02:54
St0n3-C0lXChat 2.6.0 have removed many good options02:54
thegladiatorvery much02:54
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thegladiatorhow did you guess that ?02:55
St0n3-C0lur name and ip :P02:55
St0n3-C0lehe02:55
St0n3-C0l:>02:55
thegladiatoroh :)02:55
thegladiatorand you ?02:55
St0n3-C0lPaki02:55
thegladiatorgreat :)02:56
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JoeBlowphew, finally back in linux02:56
St0n3-C0lehe :P it'll be more gr8 when Cricket series will start :P02:56
thegladiatorJoeBlow, happy ?!02:56
thegladiatoryeah lol :) and you know who will win dont you ? :)02:57
SeveasJoeBlow, welcome home ;)02:57
St0n3-C0lSure it's Pakistan :P02:57
thegladiatorhe he :p02:57
St0n3-C0lI think u didn't saw England thrashed by Pakis :P02:58
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St0n3-C0ln Shoaib :P02:58
JoeBlowthegladiator, with linux, not fucking microsoft02:58
JoeBlowSeveas, its like not having a cigg for 2 days, and finally getting one02:58
St0n3-C0ll0l02:58
St0n3-C0li hate cigg :p02:58
thegladiatorlol yeah02:59
gnomefreaki hate them too but i enjoy smoking them :)02:59
SeveasJoeBlow, hehe02:59
St0n3-C0lhahaha02:59
JoeBlowmicrosoft wont let me install xp 32 bit on a partition if theirs a linux partition on that sata drive02:59
St0n3-C0lu said yeah for ? thegladiator ?02:59
JoeBlowi had to install 64 bit windows for gaming, its a peice of garbage02:59
JoeBlowand i didnt like ciggarettes till i moved to europe and tried out handrolled british tobbacco02:59
JoeBlowi hate that prerolled super chopped, super dry stuff03:00
St0n3-C0lI even hate the smoke of cigg :P03:00
rickardhow do I install ntfsLinux?03:00
thegladiator@joeblow , but I also smoke :(03:00
CaptainMorganhaving a brainfart... what's the ident's in chmod? u , a , g , ?03:00
thegladiatorso I like the comparison03:00
JoeBlowu guys never told me their was an ntfs linux!!!03:00
Seveasrickard, you can mount ntfs partitions without installing anyting...03:00
thegladiatoryou never asked joe03:00
JoeBlowthegladiator, my girlfriend hates me smoking more then i hate it03:00
rickardSeveas - how?03:00
SeveasCaptainMorgan, (u)ser, (g)roup, (o)thers, (a)ll03:01
gnomefreakJoeBlow, it always has been  they havent and have no plan on fixing it they said that vista will provide better 64 support but from what i have heard so far its still garbage on 6403:01
JoeBlowlol, if i could write to an ntfs drive in linux, that would make things alot easier03:01
thegladiatorkaunsa shehar hain yaar ?03:01
yanchenghow can i check what shell i am in now?03:01
s_spiff hey i was checking the developers site for gnome...and they openly talk of hacking gnome...03:01
Seveasrickard, mount -t ntfs /dev/your_partition /path/to/mountpoint03:01
thegladiatorlahore/karachi ?03:01
jendaJoeBlow: It's not an ntfs linux, just support03:01
jenda!ntfs03:01
Seveass_spiff, hacking == programming03:01
dbuganyone advise to make the upgrade to dapper or is to soon ?03:01
s_spiffam i getting it wrong.. or are they seriously talking of hacking someone's desktop?03:01
gnomefreakyancheng, more than likely its bash (your default terminal)03:01
thegladiator!ntfs can be mounted in linux03:01
ubotuthegladiator: Are you smoking crack?03:01
s_spiffouu ok03:01
JoeBlowgnomefreak, yea, i even e-mailed them, they said "its only built for server applications, everything else its not for, so will suck"03:01
s_spiff lol..03:01
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St0n3-C0lthegladiator ? ? what ya sayin03:01
St0n3-C0lshehar kiska ?03:02
thegladiatoryour03:02
thegladiatorjust asking03:02
St0n3-C0lLOL KHI :P03:02
JoeBlowjenda, yea im aware of that, im just joking, because having any data u wanna use in linux on a ntfs partition is such a pain, i spend half my day messing with the hassle03:02
thegladiatorgood :p03:02
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jendaJoeBlow: Solution: do not use NTFS03:02
St0n3-C0lafter a very long time India will play in Khi :P03:02
JoeBlowjenda, as long as u dont want to play any modern games03:02
rickardbut hod do I know wich partition is my ntfs thingy?03:02
grundo!#ubuntu03:02
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ubotuhere03:02
gnomefreakthey are saying nov 2006 now that cista will be out. im gonna suggest you do not upgrade to vista for atleast a year after (has more bugs than xp did)03:03
thegladiatoryes thats true03:03
Seveasrickard, sudo fdisk -l03:03
JoeBlowrickard, go into system, administration, disks, and look aroung03:03
ompauls_spiff, just because the closed source software world breaks the language that we speak long before they use it does not mean that they (A) understand (B) are not out to undermine us03:03
gnomefreaklol look around03:03
thegladiatoraround*03:03
grundo:-)03:03
JoeBlowi find if ppl are new to linux and just coming from windows, like me, its easier if u can give them a graphical rather then command line solution03:03
ompauls_spiff, search for the new hackers dictionary online and look up the word hacker03:03
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St0n3-C0ls_spiff: I used to understand that...but as days passed I learnt that HACKERS are called GURUS OF PROGRAMMING :P03:03
ompauls_spiff, it is a word from the 50's03:04
Whistleri got a scsi scanner, and i need a driver for domex 536 scsi > pci adapter03:04
SeveasSt0n3-C0l, :)03:04
Whistlerwhere can i find it03:04
JoeBlowit matters who u talk to as to what a hacker is03:04
gnomefreakJoeBlow, most users from win unless they have woprked with DOS directly they dont have a clue what a commmand line does :(03:04
JoeBlowmy cousin is a programmer, and hes like "hacking is just normaly programming" but common acceptance is hacking is malicous programing, or malicous use of someone elses network03:04
rickardCan I chose mountpoint myslef?03:05
JoeBlowgnomefreak, like all socialist nations, Microshaft nation is out to undermine and dumb down the world03:05
gnomefreakJoeBlow, thats very true03:05
JoeBlowgnomefreak, that means basiclly, Windows= Satan, Linux = Jesus03:05
St0n3-C0lJoeBlow: People used to say...we'll hack msn passwords but actually it's cracking not hacking :P03:05
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St0n3-C0lLOL03:05
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JoeBlowSt0n3-C0l, well technically yea, but the common acceptance among ppl who arent really involved in computers just call it all hacking, so i just say ok hacking, keep it simple, cause in the end all forms of "hacking" are in a sub catagory03:06
thegladiatorlets not downplay windows :) gates is a good businessman  . he tricked us well :)03:06
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St0n3-C0lthegladiator: It's really cold here and even more cold in punjab so all fog :P03:06
JoeBlowthegladiator, still tricking, im dual booting :(03:06
rickardIf I want to mount my ntfs partition to the "Computer" folder thingy.. so it's next to my cd how do I write?03:06
thegladiatoryes I know very cold in winter !03:06
St0n3-C0lehe03:06
thegladiatormatches will be abrupted ? hopefully not03:07
St0n3-C0lgnomefreak: Who updates MS ? :P03:07
JoeBlowall we need is better game support, and windows is gone off my system, but even if i use wine, its better in windows03:07
St0n3-C0lit makes my PC slow :>03:07
IdleOneim not a big fan of Microsoft but I think that without windows most of the world would still be ignorant as to what a computer can do...Linux allows a user more flexabilty but windows did make it ( a computer ) easier to use for the masses03:07
St0n3-C0land more buggy LOL :P03:07
CaptainMorganSeveas, thanks... (0)03:07
St0n3-C0lthegladiator: Nah03:07
St0n3-C0lbut it'll be very foggy03:07
gnomefreakthe original hackers were real   hacking =changing something in a sense crackers are the malisus ones you break passwords and stuff03:07
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thegladiatori see03:07
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JoeBlowlol, i dunno, i thought windows was fine, untill i got into linux, and then last night i decided to game again, so i put in windows, and remembered real fast why i went to linux03:07
St0n3-C0lin Lahore u need headlights at daytime to see anything!03:08
St0n3-C0lplus showers03:08
thegladiatortuf conditions03:08
JoeBlowmy real problem with windows is, the money aspect, the cost of one operating system, and then next month a new one with a new tool bar color, or a new shiny toy comes out, and its 100 bucks more03:08
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brennerIdleOne: i'm with you on both accounts03:08
St0n3-C0lJoeBlow: Since I installed ubuntu back..went back to windows just for file recovery03:09
IdleOneJoeBlow>  thats why I dont like windows..the cost is rediculous03:09
St0n3-C0lwell...is there any File Recovery software for Linux on Linux ?03:09
JoeBlowSt0n3-C0l, i did it to play quake 2, yesterday id was down so i couldnt get the quake 2 binary03:09
St0n3-C0lthegladiator: Really03:09
gnomefreakJoeBlow,  everything that runs on microsoft (thats good) costs money  that is just one reason to not like them03:09
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JoeBlowgnomefreak, if i was a rich man i wouldnt mind, but im not, so i do03:09
St0n3-C0ll0l03:09
St0n3-C0li got a pirated windows but still MS thinks it's genuine :P03:10
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barongasAnyone really good at apt problems? My apt has recently freaked out whenever it tries to install anything03:10
IdleOnegnomefreak>  thank god for open source where we can get most of if not all the good programs for windows free03:10
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gnomefreakJoeBlow, even if i was rich why pay for something that you can get free that works better and has better upgrading capabilities03:10
thegladiatoryou cant let everything free of cost there has to be money somewhere and thats where support comes in03:10
JoeBlowSt0n3-C0l, ig ot that 32 bit, but it gives me real trouble with my sata drive, so i have to use 64 bit, i can only use it 30 days then i have to reinstall03:10
JoeBlowgnomefreak, games03:10
JoeBlowgnomefreak, only reason03:10
rickardwhu doesn't  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/ntfs work?03:10
gnomefreak<<<doesnt play pc games03:11
kirancould someone help me out a bit with ssh?03:11
thegladiatorask kiran03:11
St0n3-C0lJoeBlow: I am using Windows 2000 Professional so whenever it asks me for genuine advantage....:P it allows me to download anything from the site03:11
St0n3-C0lehe03:11
JoeBlowgnomefreak, I didn tbuy a gig of ram to see how many windows of internet i could open03:11
barongasIt downloads the files but then it say: W: Could not take status of the sourcecodelist <adress> -stat (2 The file or catalogue doesn't exist)03:11
St0n3-C0lwe're all ready :P03:11
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kiranthegladiator, i just installed ubuntu on my machine, and i'd like to acces ubuntu trough putty on my windowd machine? how should i setup the ssh server?03:11
JoeBlowi havent programmed in years03:12
JoeBlownot since highschool03:12
barongasThe issue arose after fsck found problems with my drive, right after I intstalled windows on another drive03:12
Seveaskiran, apt-get install openssh-server03:12
gnomefreakbarongas, can you please use pastebin to paste the output errors?03:12
Seveasdone/.03:12
thegladiatoras a fact , I have never used the paid windows . always been using the free one . so it really didnt matter to me , the cost I mean , and linux had to be downloaded . but still i like linux , even i MS coms free for me03:12
JoeBlowi did 2 years c++, and then i started a java class, but it was to god damn object oriented, so i just dumped it03:12
barongasgnomefreak, sure, but it's in swedish...03:12
thegladiatorfree one = pirated :/03:12
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barongasgnomefreak, is it possible to get the output in a language most people understand?03:12
JoeBlowthats why i run English ubuntu03:12
victorirc.ubuntu-tr.com03:13
St0n3-C0lthegladiator: LOL here windows cds cost bout 30=rs :P03:13
CanYouHelpMePlzhow do i edit the ssh login message?03:13
thegladiatorbarongas, what output ?03:13
gnomefreakthat doesnt help me :( ok barongas look in your sources.list file and look at very very top do you have a # infront of cdrom repo?03:13
thegladiatorlol here its free :) friends !03:13
St0n3-C0lhardly half dollar :P03:13
St0n3-C0lLOL03:13
St0n3-C0lthat's something diff :P03:13
JoeBlowtonight i go to my father in laws house, and put ubuntu on his system, he wanted to use mandrake, but i couldnt help him out with it, cause i only know how to use ubuntu, and odnt want to hassle03:13
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barongasthegladiator, apt output03:13
St0n3-C0lI also got win98 cd mufta :P03:13
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rouneanyone knows anything about how to get the wlan working?03:13
barongasgnomefreak, yes03:13
JoeBlowI suppose the syntax is about the same for all Debian distros?03:14
barongasgnomefreak, 2 in fact, and it has been running perfectly for months03:14
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thegladiatorbarongas, you can use GUI frontends for apt like adepts03:14
kiranSeveas, open 13 acces denied :s03:14
ompaulJoeBlow, well most of the others will not use sudo otherwise yes03:14
St0n3-C0lu use KDE ?03:14
thegladiatorapt is nto meant for literature , it is meant for updating03:14
barongasthegladiator, Yeah I use synaptic now and then but it has the same problem03:14
rickardwhy doesn't  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/ntfs work? It says the mountpath doesn't exists.03:14
St0n3-C0lkiran: install openssh-server and then in putty put the ip address of ur Linux box03:14
thegladiatorbarongas, u neednt worry much , as long as you can get the packages installed03:14
thegladiatorbarongas, are you having troubles with package installation >?03:15
barongasthegladiator, I can't, it just downloads but won't install03:15
gnomefreakerror 13 is a sudo error kiran sudo apt-get install ssh-server03:15
ompaulrickard, >>sudo mkdir /mnt/ntfs<<03:15
gnomefreakopenssh-server03:15
JoeBlowompaul, they use su instead right?03:15
thegladiatori see. it hangs ?03:15
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barongasE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)03:15
thegladiatorbarongas, ?03:15
JoeBlowompaul, or are they straight on the root?03:15
ompaulJoeBlow, correct03:15
thegladiatorwhich is the package ?03:15
barongasthegladiator, yes, no packages install at all03:15
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thegladiatorbarongas, which package were you trying to ?03:15
ompaulJoeBlow, well most of them will set up a non root user except that pile called linspire03:15
JoeBlowompaul, su, or straight on root?03:16
thegladiatorhave you enabled all repos ?03:16
kirantnx gnomefreak,03:16
gnomefreakbarongas, run sudo apt-get update and let me know of any errors03:16
gnomefreakyw kiran03:16
JoeBlowompaul, i prefer sudo big time03:16
rounehas anyone got the wlan working?03:16
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rickardNow it says I don't have permissions to view the content in the mounted folder? :|03:16
s_spiffkiran studio?03:16
thegladiatorI am on KDE03:16
JoeBlowrickard, are u trying to mount ntfs?03:16
rickardyes03:16
barongasgnomefreak, I've tried five different all the same error03:16
JoeBlowrickard, alright i can help you out, i do this every single day03:16
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JoeBlowrickard, and im doing it righ tnow anyway03:17
barongassudo apt-get update03:17
JoeBlowrickard, ok go to terminal03:17
barongasmistype03:17
rickardJoeBlow ok03:17
gnomefreakbarongas, when you run sudo apt-get update it errors out witha  stat error?03:17
JoeBlowrickard, ok type out , sudo nano /etc/fstab03:17
barongasgnomefreak, hmm it stops at 99% at public.planetmirror.com. I'll remove that03:18
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rickardJoeBlow, yea ok03:18
gnomefreakbarongas, yes do that that one gave me issues also if you have extras repo # that out03:18
JoeBlowrickard, ok sue your arrow key, and go to where it says defaults for the NTFS partition or drive03:18
barongasgnomefreak, without planetmirror it reads the lists with no problem03:18
JoeBlowrickard, use*03:18
IdleOnewhere would libtcl.so be located?03:18
gnomefreakbarongas, can you translate the full error into english?03:19
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ProtectYaNeckI can't seem to get my live cd to work on the internet03:19
JoeBlowrickard, ok wher eit says default, delete it , and type umask=0222 in its place03:19
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ProtectYaNeckit says that it's enabled and it is configurable but I can't visit any websites03:20
rickardJoeBlow, wait a sec.. I don't find my ntfs drive03:20
gnomefreakok good no errors than :))03:20
JoeBlowoh u didnt mount it yert did ya?03:20
JoeBlowrickard, oh u didnt mount it yert did ya?03:20
JoeBlowrickard, ok go to system, administration, disks, then find out harddrive, go to partitions tab, and enable all that u want to use in linux03:20
rickardi think I did03:20
barongasgnomefreak, tried an apt-get upgrade and got: dpkg: interpretation error: in file:  "/var/lib/dpkg/available" near line 26814 package "libgtk2.0-bin":03:20
barongas newlinesymbol i field name "Name=Emulatorer"03:20
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gnomefreakbarongas, are you on breezy or dapper?03:21
barongasgnomefreak, breezy03:21
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St0n3-C0lBreezy is like Fresh Breeze :P03:21
JoeBlowrickard, waht do u see at /etc/fstab ?03:21
barongasgnomefreak, or hoary, which one is later03:21
JoeBlowon a sweaty armpit?03:21
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gnomefreakbreezy is the last stable release03:21
St0n3-C0lDapper is similar to Diaper :P03:21
barongasgnomefreak, breezy it is then03:22
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JoeBlowi wanna give kubuntu a try, i think ill d/L that tonight03:22
St0n3-C0lwhich will trouble u every 4-5 hours :P03:22
rickardJoeBlow, something called proc, ext3, swap, cdrom and cdburner and floppy03:22
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vlado_nick WebKiller03:22
albacker!java03:22
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs03:22
gnomefreakbarongas, im not real sure why its doing that can you upgrade using notifier?03:22
JoeBlowrickard, did u do the system, administration, disks ? and enable it?03:22
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rickardJoeBlow, yes. Do I need to reboot after?03:23
albacker!javadebs03:23
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy03:23
barongasgnomefreak, notifier only starts synaptic which returns the errors of apt03:23
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gnomefreakbarongas, sounds like a broken package but i dont really know:(03:23
edusurfhello03:23
JoeBlowrickard, no this is linux, forget about ever rebooting03:23
JoeBlowrickard, no need to here, its better here03:23
edusurfplease, help me about amsn03:24
gnomefreakbarongas, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   run that see if it gives same errors and let me know if the errors say to use -f or smart updater03:24
barongasgnomefreak, I'm worried that I might have some file corrupted or something since it all started after fsck forcing a hd cleanup after I installed windows on another partition03:24
JoeBlowrickard, do u see the ntfs partition within, system,administration, disks, like the name of it under the partitions tab03:24
gnomefreakbarongas, that could very well be03:24
Mace103:24
St0n3-C0lThankgod ! Synaptic fixed :P03:24
rickardJoeBlow, yes03:24
gnomefreakforcing is not really recommended03:24
edusurfplease, help me about amsn installation03:24
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JoeBlowSt0n3-C0l, what was wrong with it03:24
JoeBlowrickard, can u browse it from their?03:24
gnomefreakedusurf, sudo apt-get install amsn03:24
CanYouHelpMePlzwhats good about aMsn ?03:25
gnomefreaknothing03:25
St0n3-C0lI was clicking on Repositories and instead giving me options to edit repos...it was updating them :p03:25
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St0n3-C0lLOL03:25
rickardJoeBlow, yes03:25
JoeBlowSt0n3-C0l, lol, damn03:25
barongasgnomefreak, damn now it won't realize that I closed synaptic down and an't lock the admin dir03:25
St0n3-C0lgaim lots of gooms :-D03:25
JoeBlowrickard, ok its mounted, go back to terminal03:25
gnomefreakbarongas, try reboot03:25
St0n3-C0lgoods*03:25
barongasgnomefreak, got it with killall03:25
barongasgnomefreak, same error03:26
gnomefreakok that will work too03:26
rickardJoeBlow, oks03:26
St0n3-C0ltell me the ntfs line which will allow me to access my NTFS Partition ?03:26
gnomefreaki think that file is broken the lib file03:26
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JoeBlowrickard, type out exactly03:26
barongasgnomefreak, can it be possible to just replace the /var/lib/dpkg/available file with a clean one?03:26
JoeBlowrickard, sudo nano /etc/fstab03:26
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gnomefreakbarongas, dont know never done it and i dont know what else depends on it03:27
edusurfgnomefreak, after digit that command, aMSN is installed in my machine?03:27
rickardJoeBlow, ye. still doesn't see any ntfs03:27
barongasSt0n3-C0l, /dev/hdzz       /wherever        ntfs    defaults03:27
gnomefreakedusurf, it should after it gets done what it does03:27
St0n3-C0lbarongas: It's already on defaults03:28
barongasSt0n3-C0l, in fstab03:28
gnomefreak!info amsn03:28
barongasSt0n3-C0l, an it wont mount?03:28
ubotuamsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB03:28
gnomefreakedusurf, you have to have universe repo enabled03:28
JoeBlowrickard, sudo nano /etc/fstab03:28
barongasgnomefreak, Hmmm... It would be a nuisance to have to reinstall ubuntu03:28
St0n3-C0lyeah03:28
gnomefreakubotu tell edusurf about universe03:28
JoeBlowrickard, oops03:28
St0n3-C0lit's mounting03:28
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St0n3-C0lbut read-only03:28
JoeBlowrickard, ok do u have gaim?03:28
IdleOnecan anybody help me with Tcl?03:28
JoeBlowrickard, a name for aim or yahoo?03:28
barongasSt0n3-C0l, ntfs can only be ro in linux03:28
goldplatedpentiuhi every103:29
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St0n3-C0lawww03:29
CanYouHelpMePlzwhen will ventrilo come out with a linux client..ARG!03:29
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edusurfthanks gnomefreak03:29
barongasSt0n3-C0l, You can access the linux drive from windows though03:29
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gnomefreakyw edusurf03:29
rickardJoeBlow, yes03:29
barongasgnomefreak, yeah thanks03:29
JoeBlowrickard, what do u have?03:29
St0n3-C0llol03:29
gazanyone know of any newsgroup applications equivalent to newsleecher for windows that accepts nzb files?03:29
brennergoldplatedpentiu: you're one letter short :P03:29
goldplatedpentiui kno03:29
barongasSt0n3-C0l, Need some special program though. Don't blame linux, it's windows anal secrecy problems that stops us from writing ntfs drives03:30
goldplatedpentiuim still new to this03:30
brenner:)03:30
St0n3-C0lbarongas: I am not blaming Linux for that03:30
barongasSt0n3-C0l, good :)03:30
rickardJoeBlow, um, i got msn03:30
JoeBlowrickard, one seocn bro03:31
St0n3-C0lwell heard Kopete 3.5 is good03:31
McJerrygaz: good question03:31
HendikinsKopete in 3.5 works03:31
goldplatedpentiui cant seem to play mp3's wiv rythembox03:31
mweSt0n3-C0l: it's great03:32
St0n3-C0lthegladiator: is that good ?03:32
HendikinsI won't say it is the best thing since sliced bread, but it seems nice and reliable.03:32
mweSt0n3-C0l: it even has full webcam support03:32
St0n3-C0lHendikins: I want some screenshots of it03:32
HendikinsSt0n3-C0l: of what of it?03:32
St0n3-C0lKopete03:32
mweSt0n3-C0l: why don't you just install it?03:32
JoeBlowrickard, ok bro, let me make u a room03:32
mweSt0n3-C0l: you can apt-get it with the right sources03:32
brennergoldplatedpentiu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:32
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barongasgoldplatedpentiu, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:33
St0n3-C0lnot a bad one :P but will surely try :>03:33
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JoeBlowrickard, ok join  #poobuntu03:33
St0n3-C0llow-bandwidth atm03:33
ninnghizidhahow to switch to single-user-mode, please?03:33
HendikinsSt0n3-C0l: http://www.hendikins.id.au/screenshots/misc/kopete-chatwindow.png03:33
Huffalumpwhat is Kopete?03:33
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HendikinsThat's a random chat window03:33
Brunellus to get hw rendering on an nvidia card, do I have to add "Option RenderAccel  True" to my xorg.conf?03:33
St0n3-C0land not only kopete will download....a bundle of other libs will be downloaded too :P03:33
HendikinsHuffalump: multi-protocol IM client for KDE03:33
mweninnghizidha: You can't because it wants a root password03:33
St0n3-C0lnp03:33
Huffalumpoh like Gaim and Adium?03:33
HendikinsHuffalump: See http://kopete.kde.org/03:33
mweninnghizidha: and ubuntu doesn't set one03:33
St0n3-C0lthanks03:33
mweninnghizidha: however there is a workaround03:34
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St0n3-C0lIt used to suck before :P03:34
HendikinsYeah, sort of like Gaim for KDE. Conceptually anyway.03:34
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mweninnghizidha: what do you need to do?03:34
St0n3-C0lbut not GAIM :P03:34
Huffalumpkewl03:34
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St0n3-C0lgood one03:34
gnomefreakyuck at kopete :(03:35
St0n3-C0lwill try03:35
mweoff topic03:35
St0n3-C0lahh..one thing...support for proxy ???03:35
qwarriorhello there, need a bit of help03:35
mwe!helpme03:35
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.03:35
St0n3-C0lnormally I've to use tsocks for every K app03:35
goldplatedpentiuthanks brenner03:35
goldplatedpentiugot it sorted03:35
gnomefreakqwarrior, ask or we cant begin to help :(03:36
qwarriorok, just loaded 5.10 a couple of times03:36
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mweqwarrior: that's not a problem03:36
qwarriorand I didn't see where I was supposed to set up root.03:36
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mweqwarrior: you're not03:36
brennergoldplatedpentiu: yw03:36
mwe!tell qwarrior about root03:36
goldplatedpentiui installed dual boot ubuntu wiv XP03:36
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St0n3-C0lmwe: Kopete supports proxy now ?03:37
gnomefreakmwe, kind of is ubuntu only needs to be set up once :(03:37
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mweqwarrior: using sudo instead of root is the ubuntu policy03:37
goldplatedpentiuhaven't bothered wiv xp yet03:37
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kamerongood morning.03:37
mweSt0n3-C0l: I don't know03:37
mweSt0n3-C0l: I would think so03:37
St0n3-C0lgood morning pal03:37
Huffalumpits like the Mac, you dont log in as root... you just get temporary root-power when you  need it.03:37
St0n3-C0l;P03:37
JoeBlowwhats the syntax for mounting a logical drive?03:37
brennergoldplatedpentiu: so i guess you're liking it so far?03:37
goldplatedpentiuyeah03:37
HendikinsSt0n3-C0l: http://www.hendikins.id.au/screenshots/misc/kopete-userlist.png03:37
goldplatedpentiuwas using slax b403:38
JoeBlow!ntfs03:38
ubotu[ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK03:38
St0n3-C0lin previous release i used to use tsocks for everything03:38
goldplatedpentiugot bored of the constant crashing03:38
gnomefreakkopete still doesnt support chat rooms though03:38
JoeBlowwhats the syntax for mounting a logical drive?03:38
gnomefreak!mount03:38
ubotuit has been said that mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f03:38
Hendikinsgnomefreak: as in?03:39
St0n3-C0lgood one hendikins03:39
St0n3-C0lthanx03:39
erUSUL!tell JoeBlow about windowsdrives03:39
brennergoldplatedpentiu: ouch03:39
gnomefreaklast time i used kopete it didnt allow me to join any aim rooms03:39
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St0n3-C0lKDE is developing faster than Gnome03:39
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HendikinsQuite possible that Kopete simply doesn't have any front end for it03:40
JhairSt0n3-C0l: any measures to backup your claim?03:40
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HendikinsSt0n3-C0l: Anything else you want screenshotted?03:40
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St0n3-C0lHendikins: NO thanks03:40
HendikinsRightio.03:40
St0n3-C0lJhair: I feel...e.g gnome removed their own menu editor03:40
St0n3-C0land now 3rd party menu editor is needed03:40
JoeBlowhey this guy has his drive enabled , and mounted, bet fstab doesnt find it, anyone ever seen that?03:41
gnomefreakSt0n3-C0l, they did?03:41
St0n3-C0lit was said that they'll include menu editor in the newer versio03:41
gnomefreakexplain please  because breezy and dapper both have menu editors03:41
HendikinsCan we move this holy war somewhere else? Like #ubuntu-offtopic? Or perhaps /dev/null?03:41
Dr_WillisWheres the menu editor? :p03:41
Dr_Willisive never noticed it.03:41
St0n3-C0lgnomefreak: its 3rd party editor not official gnome one03:41
gnomefreakDr_Acemaster, in dapper or breezy?03:42
Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  5.10   ;)  *#&# the cute names.03:42
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gnomefreakin system tools03:42
Dr_AcemasterI'm trying to access a windows box from ubuntu, I can ping it, but can't find it w/ file browser, how do I find it?03:42
JhairSt0n3-C0l: oh I see, that's because they don't want to confuse users :( ->http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html03:42
Dr_Acemasteror how do I access it03:42
Hendikinsand I feel more comfortable with KDE3, although it may have to do that I've been using it since SuSE 8.0 was released.03:42
St0n3-C0ll0l03:42
Dr_WillisDr_Acemaster,   I often use a samba browser tool like K3b.03:42
Hendikinser, may have to do with the fact that I've...03:43
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Dr_AcemasterDr_Willis: is that in the package manager?03:43
Dr_WillisDr_Acemaster,  i have had some issues in the past with the gnomes  samba browing features..  but let me check.03:43
Dr_Acemasterwell it worked great until I installed a switch03:43
stoutunder gnome do u prefer use gnomebaker or graveman?03:43
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St0n3-C0lJhair: This statement made by Linus to encourage for ...03:43
Dr_Acemasterboth boxes are on the same switch03:43
gnomefreakthought k3b was a cd burnner app :(03:43
Dr_Acemasterlol @ gnomefreak03:43
rounelinux and wlan, help! :D03:43
gnomefreak:)03:44
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Jhairstout: I had huge problems with gnomebaker (crashes), graveman was more stable for me03:44
St0n3-C0lgnomebaker and graveman both are good03:44
Dr_WillisDr_Acemaster,  yea.  under the gnome file manager ya can use somtning.,. Oh yea.. I ment Smb4K03:44
Dr_Willis:P03:44
HendikinsI prefer k3b to the options presented.03:44
Hendikinsalthough I do use xcdroast occasionally03:44
stoutgnome baker ist ibernated when i start burn03:44
rouneplzlpz help to get my wlan working! i dont wanna keep sitting on my crappy windows :P03:44
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JhairSt0n3-C0l: ...for KDE... but any way i use xfce so I don't care :)03:45
gnomefreakubotu tell roune about wifi03:45
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St0n3-C0lwhats the problem now with Synaptic03:45
St0n3-C0lagain that same problem03:45
gnomefreakSt0n3-C0l, what problem on what ubuntu version?03:45
St0n3-C0lBreezy03:45
St0n3-C0lwhen I click on Repositories03:46
stouti think iits better use apt ... its cool! ( jpoke)03:46
St0n3-C0land that thing happened few hours ago03:46
Dr_Acemastersmb4k says it's a kde samba browser, can I still use it in gnome?03:46
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HendikinsTomorrow I'm going to do some ripping in to Firefox docs on the wiki, now that I've got my vmwared Breezy03:46
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St0n3-C0linstead of editing the repos it starts updating :P03:46
gnomefreakvery very infomative can you be lil less general :(03:46
gnomefreakohhhhhhhh03:46
gnomefreakhold on brb03:46
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St0n3-C0leverytime I open terminal03:47
brennerDr_Acemaster: course you can.  it will install all the kde libs it requires03:47
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gnomefreakSt0n3-C0l, use sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list for now it should work03:47
Dr_Acemasterbrenner: thanks :)03:47
brennerDr_Acemaster: same things the other way.  gnome apps can be used in kde03:47
St0n3-C0li've to type : export http_proxy=http://abc:808003:47
brennernp03:47
smtkrIs lame no longer in any of the repositories03:47
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St0n3-C0lis there any way that everytime I open terminel that thing is already exported03:48
brennerHendikins: good on you03:48
gazwhere would one put commands that i wished to be performed at startup03:48
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smtkrJust doing a little reading (for uni) and trying to figure out a good mp3 ripper for linux03:48
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St0n3-C0l?03:48
gnomefreak!info lame03:48
ubotulame: (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 3.96.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 222 kB, Installed size: 620 kB03:48
gnomefreakits in multiverse03:49
HendikinsDoes anyone have any suggestions for improving the Firefox docs on the wiki? Sure, I'm going to go in with a chainsaw and do surgery, but I'm also after feedback.03:49
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gnomefreakSt0n3-C0l, mine worked fine03:49
brennergaz: sys > pres > sessions maybe03:49
brenner*prefs03:49
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gazfor instance when i used fedora i could use /etc/rc.local03:50
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Yangowhat is kded?03:51
rounethanks for the link^^03:51
albacker!javareps03:51
ubotuWish i knew, albacker03:51
stoutuasaly in debian the kernel modules are in /etc/modules, its tehe same in ubuntu?03:51
albacker!javarepos03:51
ubotualbacker: What?03:51
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albacker!java03:51
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs03:51
albacker!javadebs03:51
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy03:51
brennerstout: correct afaik03:52
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brennerYango: kded?03:52
Yangobrenner: kded.03:53
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Yango kded -- triggers Sycoca database updates when needed03:53
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Yangobut i don't know what is Sycoca even :)03:53
Yangoand it eats CPU like a prime numbers calculator03:54
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brennerYango: 1st i've heard of it. sorry.03:54
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pmhello. Did any of you compile kernel on Ubuntu?03:55
xestergood day03:55
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pmDid anyone*03:56
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pmsorry about my English :P03:56
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iLLf8dmorning03:56
stoutits evening?03:56
pmmorning? It's afternoon :P03:57
iLLf8dgood evening to you then03:57
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thegladiatori get this error checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp03:57
thegladiatorconfigure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check03:57
thegladiatorSee `config.log' for more details.03:57
iLLf8dgood day!03:57
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thegladiatorhow can I correct it?03:57
iLLf8dits night =P03:57
pmgood day :)03:57
brennerthegladiator: [1]  what are you installing? [2]  install build-essential03:57
stoutbut its the same day?03:57
pmwhere are you now, iLLf8d? :)03:57
HendikinsiLLf8d: 2AM here. What do you call that? :P03:58
damotorHi. I'm trying to use my camcoder and amsn but amsn says there's no webcam, what can I do in order to use my camcoder as a webcam?03:58
thegladiatorbrenner, a simple theme for kde . I do a ./configure and get this error03:58
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St0n3-C0land here it's 8:00 P.m03:58
Pygifreaky: ping03:58
iLLf8doh I got my bad startrek movies confused I just started first contact thought it was nemisis03:58
iLLf8dnemesis even03:58
stoutfor me ita 16.04 or 4.04 pm03:58
brennerthegladiator: try [2] , then configuring again03:58
iLLf8dHendikins, good day covers it all03:58
pm3 58 pm, Warsaw time :)03:58
brennerthegladiator: since when do themes need compiling?03:59
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St0n3-C0lAnybody need that plugin for kopete which is the song ur playing on amarok will be displayed on Kopete MSN's nick03:59
joergdwith both "breezy" and "dapper" in /etc/apt/sources.list, how to tell apt/aptitude to use "breezy" as default but make "dapper" packets available as well?03:59
thegladiatorbrenner, window theme actually03:59
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cleojoergd: apt-pinning, pin the release to "breezy" http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html04:00
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Dr_AcemasterDr_Willis: ok installed smb4k, and it found the windows box right away, but it's not seeing any of the folders04:01
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thegladiatorbrenner, now I get a diff error checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation04:02
Kreuzfeldthi all04:02
thegladiatori am using kde on ubuntu04:02
Pygigladiator: kubuntu?04:02
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thegladiatorkubuntu-dektop installed in ubuntu04:03
St0n3-C0lI'll install kde 3.5 tonight04:03
thegladiatorhow can I resolve that error ? checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3) ?04:04
thegladiatorits nice stone04:04
thegladiatorbetter than 3.4.304:04
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brennermy guess is you need libqt4-dev04:04
thegladiatorlemme try04:04
HendikinsWhat is the equavilent of qt3-devel in the Ubuntu world?04:04
St0n3-C0lbetter than GNOME :>04:04
St0n3-C0l:P04:04
Hendikinsand qt4 will NOT work04:04
thegladiatoryeah04:04
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brennerthegladiator: you might want to try out checkinstall04:04
thegladiatorit wont work Hendikins  ?04:04
redguy|work!info qt3-dev04:04
HendikinsIt wants Qt3 >= 3.3 < 4.004:05
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St0n3-C0lfirst of all i wana try kopete04:05
redguy|work!info libqt3-dev04:05
St0n3-C0lbcoz gtk apps looks weird on kde :P04:05
thegladiatorso Hendikins shud i install qt4 as brenner said ?04:05
Hendikinsthegladiator: You can pretty much assume that anything using Qt at the moment won't work with Qt4 properly/at all.04:05
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thegladiatorgaim is okay stone04:05
kbrooksping04:05
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thegladiatorah04:06
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Hendikinsthegladiator: Install Qt3's development packages, not Qt404:06
thegladiatorand it needs greater than 3.3 so what is the fix ?04:06
thegladiatoryep04:06
HendikinsIt wants Qt3 >= 3.3 < 4.004:06
HendikinsSo whatever fits the bill04:06
thegladiatorwhats the library ?04:06
thegladiatorcalled?04:06
HendikinsWhat are you building anyway?04:06
thegladiatorlibqt4 ?04:06
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thegladiatorits a justa  window theme for kde04:06
brennersorry for my mistake04:06
JoeBlowhow do i set to beep to my default mp3 player?04:07
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HendikinsAlthough doing a search on packages.ubuntu for qt3 will probably tell you.04:07
brennerJoeBlow: right-click on an mp3 file in nautilus > properties > open with tab04:07
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some_dudehi everyone04:08
Kreuzfeldtanyone knows how to get a soundblaster audigy working on 5.10?04:08
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JoeBlowbrenner, thanks04:08
kbrookssome_dude, just ask04:08
Xoritori think i may give ubuntu a shot04:08
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Xoritorheard lots of good stuff about it04:08
some_dudewhere might i find a wxruby package ?04:09
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Pygi!info wxruby04:09
St0n3-C0lXoritor: You should :P04:09
Pygino such package in ubuntu repos04:09
pmdon't you compile kernels?04:09
Xoritorwhen i get my drive back from plextor i probably will04:09
redguy|work!info libqt3-mt-dev04:09
brennerXoritor: what are you running now?04:10
redguy|workdarn04:10
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XoritorFC404:10
redguy|work!info libqt-mt-dev04:10
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Xoritorsome FC304:10
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Xoritorand quite a few RHEL 3 & 4 boxes04:10
St0n3-C0lFC sucks:P04:10
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brennerXoritor: so you've never used a deb based distro?04:10
Xoritorbrenner, i used deb in the 90s04:11
Xoritornot since about 99 though04:11
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brennerapparently they're less troublesome than rpms04:11
Xoritorhmm04:11
Seveasbrenner, that's an understatement :)04:11
gazanyone know of any good newsgroup applications similar to newsleecher for windows?04:11
brennerglad to hear i'm not wrong for once. :)04:11
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Xoritorgaz nget?04:12
Blissexgaz: what do you want to do?04:12
gazis it compatible with .nzb files?04:12
joergdcleo: thanks04:12
Xoritori dont know what newsleecher is04:12
Xoritorno04:12
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gazno of any that are/04:12
Xoritorgaz, not that i know of04:12
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thegladiator1545 packages installed out of 17843 available04:12
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Xoritornget is easy to grab what you want nget -g alt.binaries.pictures -r '[sS] omepicture.[jJ] [pP] [gG] '04:13
Xoritoror osme thing like that04:14
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ccc_gaz: there's one for kde called knzb04:14
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Xoritorwhat is an nzb?04:14
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gazits a file which stores the location of file on newsgroups making getting them easy check out www.newzbin.com04:15
Xoritoranyone point me to a "network install" howto for ubuntu?04:15
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goldplatedpentiuhi every104:16
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JoeBlow< listens to beavis and butthead theme one more time04:16
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MercuryAnyone know of a simple program to convert some text (or a whole text file) from a specified charset to UTF8?04:16
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brennerXoritor: not sure if there *is* one, but a good place to look for it would be here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation04:16
Kreuzfeldtanyone knows how to properly set up a soundblaster audigy? please pm me :\ i just got crackling sound thats all04:16
Xoritorhmm04:16
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stoutgood bye people04:17
goldplatedpentiui can confirm that ubuntu is the best free OS ive seen so far04:17
jonathonDoes anyone know how to install KDE along with gnome on ubuntu?04:17
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Blissexjonathon: on the wiki.04:17
brennergoldplatedpentiu: awesome :)04:17
goldplatedpentiuthe support is great04:17
jonathonThank you Blissex :)04:17
Blissexjonathon: something like 'apt-get install kde-desktop'04:17
Xoritoranyone have permissions to edit the wiki?04:18
pmKreuzfeldt, did you call me? :)04:18
Xoritorfound a typeo04:18
Xoritorhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OnNFSDrive04:18
iLLf8dgoldplatedpentiu, everyones been waiting for your confirmation =P04:18
brennerjonathon: install kubuntu-desktop, then choose kde from the sessions menu at login04:18
Xoritorwroten?04:18
Xoritorfirst like04:18
jonathont/y04:18
Xoritorerr04:18
goldplatedpentiu:-p04:18
Xoritorfirst line04:18
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MercuryAh, there we go.04:18
Darky469does  anyone  knows  how  to  install codeweavers-crossover-pro-4.2.sh04:18
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boxerboy29well i could really do without the black background :(04:18
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kameronDarky469, i don't know, i don't think it's a free program.04:19
goldplatedpentiuWiFi was a bit ov a git 2 get workin04:19
bubblenutHi, yesterday I could connect to my PSP fine and transfer files to and from it, today it's getting mounted as a readonly filesystem, any ideas why this may be?04:19
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tbwI've got a P4 3.6ghz machine, is it capable of throttling?04:19
C-O-L-Talbacker: ?04:20
Blissexbubblenut: usually filesystems are mounted RO when they have been uncleanly mounted, so try running fsck04:20
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JoeBlowtbw, its capable of kicking ass04:20
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brennerboxerboy29: bg in what?04:20
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goldplatedpentiui would really like a wifi signal meter though04:20
s_spiff{AWAY}whats throttling?04:20
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JoeBlows_spiff, i dunno, i think its intel talk04:20
s_spiff{AWAY}:P04:21
ChrisChello ... is vncviewer on the Gnome menu somewhere and I'm just missing it (default Ubuntu 5.10 install)04:21
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tbwJoeBLow: What what I want to do is monitor the temperature of the CPU zone and the case zone... but I can't find a utility to do that... does the stock kernel not come with lmsensors?04:21
St0n3-C0lgnomefreak: well your idea of "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" didn't worked for me04:21
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JoeBlowtbw, no clue bro, but im sure their is something04:21
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gnomefreakSt0n3-C0l, you couldnt edit it?04:21
goldplatedpentiudoes any1 kno if konfabulator has a linux version04:22
gnomefreaksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list is the command to edit the sources list04:22
gnomefreakafter that you save close than run sudo apt-get update04:22
goldplatedpentiualso how do i get folding@home on ubuntu 5.1004:23
alekandrskype depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2); however:04:23
alekandr  Version of libqt3c102-mt on system is 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3.04:23
ChrisCgoldplatedpentiu: search ubuntuforums for boinc info, I did it04:23
alekandr:(04:23
goldplatedpentiuChrisC: I will04:24
gazare there any cd/dvd burning apps similar to windows nero?04:24
s_spiffanyone has installed KDE on their Ubuntu?04:24
goldplatedpentiuKDE has 104:24
s_spiff last time i did it, the whole look and feel of GNOMe changed!04:24
goldplatedpentiudunno how04:24
ChrisCgoldplatedpentiu: and don't settle for a script-based install, do it via synaptic; forum will have threads discussing this04:24
s_spiff the very menu items, the cons became larger!04:25
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JoeBlowgaz, GnomeBaker is really basic, but pretty cool04:25
goldplatedpentiuChrisC: cool04:25
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brenners_spiff: how'd you install it?04:25
ChrisCis vncviewer on the Gnome menu somewhere and I'm just missing it (default Ubuntu 5.10 install)04:25
gazJoeBlow, does it do everything ya need it too?04:25
s_spiffsynaptic.04:25
brennerChrisC: no vnc apps are installed by default afaik04:25
Xoritorhow well does ubuntu handle the x86_64 issues?04:25
Riwersanyone here tried the os Zeta ?04:26
s_spiff i just installed the KDE metapackage ..thats what the forums called it04:26
JoeBlowgaz, for me, it burns basics04:26
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XoritorRiwers, isnt that BeOS renamed?04:26
Riwersyes it is04:26
s_spiffwhat BeOS?04:26
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s_spiff another linux distro?04:26
XoritorI tried BeOS long ago but not lately04:26
Xoritorno04:26
goldplatedpentiu!!!!! Im trying 2 install updates04:26
ubotugoldplatedpentiu: Are you smoking crack?04:26
iLLf8ds_spiff, a dead os04:26
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ChrisCxvncviewer is installed ...04:26
s_spiffohh ok04:27
goldplatedpentiuand it sayes a macillous client may b evesdropping04:27
XoritorBeOS is was a completely different thing04:27
iLLf8ds_spiff, the resurrection isn't going very well04:27
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bubblenutBlissex:I've just run fsck but I'm not sure what it's trying to tell me04:27
XoritorRiwers, ever tried AtheOS04:27
iLLf8ds_spiff, s/resurrection/attempted resurrection04:27
Xoritorit has a spinoff now too04:27
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goldplatedpentiuUbotu: no giv it up years ago04:27
ubotugoldplatedpentiu: Bugger all, i dunno04:27
s_spiffwhat? iLLf8d04:27
goldplatedpentiusod it04:27
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Xoritorthere is another one called inferno that i have been looking at04:27
Xoritorits kinda cool04:28
ompaulgoldplatedpentiu, it is a bot - and I would not be worried about that message04:28
s_spiffhaha04:28
poningruhey guys how much does /boot usually take?04:28
ompaulgoldplatedpentiu, unless you are in an internet cafe04:28
bubblenutThis is what the output of fsck looks like http://pastebin.com/49641804:28
Blissexponingru: a few dozen MB at most04:28
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goldplatedpentiuno home network04:28
Xoritorponingru, /dev/sda1             101M   18M   78M  19% /boot04:28
burksexit04:28
burkslogout04:28
s_spiff brenner , any clue what to do to avoid that mess?04:28
burksquit04:29
ompaulponingru, mine is - but I would suggest about 100 megs min for it 23M     /boot04:29
Xoritorponingru, not too much really ;-)04:29
goldplatedpentiubetta check 4 open ports04:29
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poningru100 mb sounds good then04:29
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poningruthanks guys04:29
goldplatedpentiuF*****g nieghbors trying to nick free net again04:29
bubblenutHow do I get the exit code of a command?04:29
brenners_spiff: recommended way is to install kubuntu-desktop, then choose kde from the sessions menu at login04:29
gnomefreakwhy cant i find good gui irc cleint for windows (freE)04:29
ompaulgnomefreak, X-Chat04:30
Xoritorgoldplatedpentiu, put them in a dmz and snoop everything they do... print out a "usage" bill and put it in ther mail box04:30
s_spiffumm, but then I would have to download GNOME04:30
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gnomefreaklooking for a different one04:30
gnomefreakim on xchat04:30
brennerompaul: it has a usage limit though iirc04:30
s_spiff which again would create the same problem!04:30
SirKillalotdo you know a free STUN server?04:30
goldplatedpentiunah iv got unlimited 4meg net04:30
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poningrugoldplatedpentiu: share the wealth then dude04:30
Xoritorgoldplatedpentiu, bah... they can pay for it, so you dont have to pay as much04:30
Xoritor;-)04:30
bubblenutgnomefreak: gaim?04:30
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poningrugoldplatedpentiu: yeah ask them if they can share the subscription costs04:31
Xoritorif i offer thats one thing... if they steal its another04:31
goldplatedpentiuif only i knew how to kill his laptop04:31
Xoritorhahahaha04:31
gnomefreakno rather have a "real" client not a multi client04:31
poningrugoldplatedpentiu: join me in #ubuntu-offtopic04:31
tbwI need to be able to monitor my CPU temperature.... anyone know what I need to do>>04:32
brenners_spiff: why would kubuntu-desktop install gnome?04:32
Xoritorcan i go too?04:32
Xoritorheheh04:32
gnomefreakwanted to try ice chat but cant find download working anywhere04:32
brennertbw: i just do: 'cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature''  there are tools out there though iirc04:32
CanYouHelpMePlzwow my printing issue was not due to ubuntu at all, was due to dirty ink cartridges, (the black one) i'm sorry ubuntu!04:32
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brennerobviously i don't type all that, i have a bash alias set up04:33
tbwiirc?04:33
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CanYouHelpMePlzirssi04:33
tbwbrenner: there is nothing in that directory04:34
brennertbw: if i remember correctly04:34
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ompaultbw, if I recall correctly there is iirc if iirc04:34
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tbwyeah04:34
tbwThanks.04:34
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brennertbw: not sure then.  i got that file on default install04:34
tbwHrm...04:34
tbwI wonder what I am doing wrong.04:34
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grundo!GNU04:35
ubotugrundo: Did you get hit by a windmill?04:35
tbwACPI: Processor [CPU1]  (supports 8 throttling states)04:35
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grundo!OpenGL04:36
ubotugrundo: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?04:36
grundo!yes04:36
ubotuYes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, grundo?04:36
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CanYouHelpMePlzubuntu uses HT right?04:36
tbwYeha04:36
grundoHT?04:36
tbwI wonder if I'm using the wrong kernel imagine04:36
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CanYouHelpMePlzseems like it did.04:36
CanYouHelpMePlzHyper Threading04:36
CanYouHelpMePlzon p4's04:36
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: I believe the standard kernel has that option, yes04:36
spacey_kiyou have to turn it on with the ht=on bootparamater04:37
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: option? how do i see if it'senabledthen04:37
spacey_kiand you need an SMP kernel04:37
brennertbw: search the forum for 'temperature monitors'04:37
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CanYouHelpMePlzhow do i see if ubuntu is using my hyper threading?04:37
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spacey_kiCanYouHelpMePlz, well if you didn't turn it on, its off04:37
tbwbrenner: well, I thought lm-sensors would do it04:37
grundoWhen the new ubuntu is going to release?04:37
spacey_kiand if its on you see two cpu's04:37
spacey_kigrundo, april04:37
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grundook04:38
CanYouHelpMePlzspacey_ki: hmm how do i check to see if 2 cpus?04:38
spacey_kiCanYouHelpMePlz, system monitor04:38
george_How can I get Ubuntu to run Media Player 10?04:38
gnomefreakgrundo, april 20th04:38
grundo:-)04:38
brennertbw: and no luck?04:38
CanYouHelpMePlzspacey_ki: where is it in system monitor?04:38
grundoEven better04:38
brennertbw: there are gui frontends to that iirc04:38
spacey_kiCanYouHelpMePlz, cpu tab?04:38
spacey_kiresources tab04:39
brennergeorge_: why would you want to?04:39
CanYouHelpMePlzonly one.04:39
CanYouHelpMePlz!ht04:39
ubotuNo idea, CanYouHelpMePlz04:39
spacey_kiCanYouHelpMePlz, so its off04:39
CanYouHelpMePlzhmm, can anyone point me in the direction of how to turn it on?04:39
spacey_kiCanYouHelpMePlz, search the wiki04:39
grundo:)04:39
spacey_kiits quite easy. just install smp kernel and add a bootparamter04:39
tr00ndHi! does anyone here know if its possible to set the charset to an iso charset when mounting vfat devices with pmount?04:40
brennerbye george04:40
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: just cat /proc/cpuinfo frome the terminal04:40
grundo!ubotu04:40
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.04:40
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: see what it shows04:40
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: yeai see04:40
tbwbrenner, : yeah says no sensors found04:41
bubblenutYAY! Thanks Blissex, PSP back up and running :)04:41
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: see two processors?04:41
Dr_Fatebin2iso?04:41
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: no04:41
spacey_kimwe, no he doesn't04:41
brennertbw: can't help you further sorry.  never gone far with it04:41
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mweCanYouHelpMePlz: get a smp kernel then04:41
tbwwell thanks anyway04:41
Blissexbubblenut: no probs. BTW, can you give some details on the connection? Thinking of buying a PSP for myself...04:41
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CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: how do i do that04:42
djtriptes.hookedon-irc.net04:42
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mweCanYouHelpMePlz: install it from synaptic or command line04:43
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: what would command line be?04:43
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mweCanYouHelpMePlz: what linux image do you have now? eg dpkg -l|grep linux-image04:43
gnubienhi, ubuntu actually power's off my pc on shutdown; where to find the acpi commands that power off a pc on shutdown in ubuntu?04:44
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CanYouHelpMePlzii  linux-image-2.6.12-10-386              2.6.12-10.25           Linux kernel image for version 2.6.12 on 38604:44
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CanYouHelpMePlzis the first one.. then the others are lower.04:44
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rickardHow do I unzip *.rar files in Linux?04:44
Blissexgnubien: it is in the kernel...04:45
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Blissexrickard: 'unrar-nonfree'04:45
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: what's your processor?04:45
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brennerrickard: you don't unzip, you unrar ... with unrar. :)04:45
gnubienBlissex: dang, hoping to get the acpi command to power off so i could use it with slackware04:45
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: pentium 4 3.0ghz /w HT04:45
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: http://pastebin.com/49643504:45
Blissexgnubien: and usually poweroff works better with APM04:45
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: sudo apt-get install linux-image-686-smp then04:45
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CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: check my pastebin so you know what i have04:46
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Zenwhat is the command to install a package in a .tar.gz again?04:46
vesrickard: 'unzip' :)04:46
grundomake install04:46
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yatesyread the INSTALL/README files04:46
rickardI don't find any manual for unrar syntax04:46
grundoZen04:46
gnubienBlissex: know the command to power off with apm? or where i could find it and what its name is?04:46
brennerisn't the smp kernel for dual processor systems?04:46
Blissexgnubien: the command is always 'halt', but that just calls the kernel to power off. Then the kernel can either invoke the APM or ACPI BIOSes/drivers to power off. It is potluck.04:46
vesrickard: sorry, unrar rather. you don't unzip rar files but unrar em04:46
mweCanYouHelpMePlz:  you want the 686 optimized kernel with smp support04:46
Zengrundo: there's a way to do it w/o extracting it first though I thought04:46
vesrickard: sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree04:47
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: so sudo apt-get install linux-image-686-smp then ?04:47
gnubienBlissex: ok, i see the sequence you mentioned04:47
Blissexgnubien: powering off is something that often does not work even is MS Windows...04:47
kameronhow do i change my *default* browser.. so stuff doesn't open in konq, but mozilla when i'm in kde?04:47
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: yeah. then pastebin dpkg -l|grep linux-image again before you reboot04:47
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: ok04:47
Blissexkameron: KDE control centre, Components, choose the browser components.04:48
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CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: ok it's dling might be a minute it's like 60mb04:48
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gnubienBlissex: ok, ubuntu live cd power's off my pc but havent figure out how to do it in slackware04:48
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: all right04:48
rickardves: it says the package is unavaiable04:48
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kameronhow do i change my *default* browser.. so stuff doesn't open in konq, but mozilla when i'm in kde?04:48
Blissexgnubien: naaa, it could be that one is using a kernel version that is different from the other, or that one uses APM and the other ACPI, or whatever.04:48
mwegnubien: probably gotta fiddle with apm04:48
kameronsorry, didn't mean to paste again.04:49
vesrickard: you might need to update your repositories, have you tried using:04:49
vesrickard: you might need to update your repositories, have you tried using: 15:49 < mwe> gnubien: probably gotta fiddle with apm04:49
kameronBlissex, thanks04:49
ves15:49 < kameron> sorry, didn't mean to paste again.04:49
CanYouHelpMePlzkameron: in prefferred applications04:49
kameronves: :P04:49
gnubienBlissex: ok, thanks for the info, will look into apm and acpi more04:49
gnubienmwe: ok, thanks04:49
vesoops, damn middle click04:49
rickardves: whats that?04:49
vesrickard: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8029504:49
brennerrickard: you need to enable the multiverse repo04:50
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: http://pastebin.com/49644004:50
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grundohwo long it takes to install Qt open source version, im running it now and it seems to take lot of time!04:51
jendaAnyone know how to transcode from DVD iso image?04:51
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: it doesnt look like the one you had me download is for p4's if i'm not being stupid?04:51
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grundoqt-x11-opensource-src-4.1.004:51
grundoversion04:51
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mweCanYouHelpMePlz: what?04:52
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: http://pastebin.com/49644004:52
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: it says for celerons/pII/PIII but not p4 ?04:52
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.12 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP04:52
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CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: in my pastebin it doesn't show that04:53
Zenwhat do you call those nifty meters that are built-in to a desktop that shows like CPU and RAM usage, etc?  I want one04:53
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mweCanYouHelpMePlz: that's because it's cut at the end04:53
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mweCanYouHelpMePlz: try apt-cache search linux-image-686-smp04:53
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: ii  linux-image-686-smp                    2.6.12.16.1           Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/04:53
CanYouHelpMePlzthats how mine looks04:54
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Pygifreaky: ping04:54
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: I don't understand that.04:54
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: ok, what do i do now to enable HT i got that installed.04:54
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mweCanYouHelpMePlz: it is for p4 though04:54
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: just install it04:55
prxqi want to install ubuntu on a computer which already has slackware installed (which uses lilo). Will the install CD honour that and use lilo too?04:55
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: it is04:55
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: reboot?04:55
Pygiprxq: nop, it wont :P it will install grub04:55
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: try what I said and tell me what it says04:55
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: apt-cache search linux-image-686-smp04:55
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: the grep thing?04:55
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: apt-cache search linux-image-686-smp04:55
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: i did, it shows up correctl04:55
prxqPygi: hm...04:55
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CanYouHelpMePlzpete@LinuxBox:~$ sudo apt-cache search linux-image-686-smp04:55
CanYouHelpMePlzlinux-image-686-smp - Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.04:55
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: because dpkg by default cuts the end off long lines04:56
brennerPygi: you *can* install lilo iirc.  select go back during the installation and it comes up with a menu.  i recall seeing 'install lilo' there04:56
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Pygibreener: might be....04:56
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: i used apt-get install to get that smp kernal, so do i just reboot now?04:56
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: is the old kernel still in grub in case you for some reason can't boot the new kernel?04:56
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: how do i check?04:56
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: though that would not be likely to happen04:56
scanwinderive installed the flash plugin for opera and im not getting any sound in it, i think its because im using alsa, anyone know how to make it work with alsa?04:57
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: pastebin /boot/grub/menu.lst04:57
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: http://pastebin.com/49645704:57
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mweCanYouHelpMePlz: good the old kernel is there04:58
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: ok, reboot?04:58
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: now reboot into the new one and cat /proc/cpuinfo04:58
rickard"The package unrar-nonefree is not avaiable, but another package points to it."  What does that mean?04:58
CanYouHelpMePlzUser interaction required! A new version of the Linux kernel has just been installed. We strongly  recommend that your machine is restarted as soon as possible to complete the system update.04:58
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CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: ok04:58
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: I'll be gone for 5-10 mins though04:58
prxqPygi: how would it react if slackware used grub too?04:58
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: ok no problemo04:58
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mweCanYouHelpMePlz: brb04:58
katie_How can I extract.rar ?04:58
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brennerrickard: it means you still haven't enabled multiverse04:59
rickardbrenner: how do I enable multiverse?04:59
brennerkatie_: install unrar-nonfree from multiverse04:59
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Pygiprxc: it is supposed to work....04:59
brennerubotu: tell rickard about repos04:59
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katie_what's multiverse04:59
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brennerrickard: check your pms04:59
Pygiprxq: not sure tho, I use slackware for 8-9 years05:00
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Pygiprxq: but I never dared to install anything else on that machine :)05:00
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katie_mn05:00
katie_thanks05:00
brennerubotu: tell katie_  about repos05:00
brennerheh05:00
grundohi katie!05:00
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katie_hey :p05:01
grundo:-)05:01
brennerthis page explains it i think: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view05:01
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rickardbrenner, I've done that05:01
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poningruwtf there are girls in here?05:02
brennerrickard: did you reload/update?05:02
Pygiprxc: but you can install lilo as well if I am not mistaken in ubuntu in menu05:02
rickardbrenner, yea05:02
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katie_no05:02
katie_im a man05:02
katie_*rolls eyes*05:02
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kameronprxc: if you need help with lilo, i'm running it.05:03
brennerrickard: paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to a pastebin05:03
scanwindercan someone help me get sound working in the linux flash plugin? i think im having problems because im using alsa rather than oss05:03
Augustus-could someone help me ?05:04
Katie^bbs05:04
Katie^movie05:04
Pygi!patience05:04
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.05:04
thoreauputic!tell scanwinder about dmix05:04
Augustus-im having some problems with the X server05:04
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Katie^http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/bloodylamer/bastardly-photos/0505/album6/nicole-richie01280503.jpg :(05:04
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rickardbrenner, ok.. but what is a pastebin?05:05
kameronnicole's gross.05:05
brenner!pastebin05:05
ubotupastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org05:05
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jonohi all05:06
thegladiatori have this source with me , can I make a deb from it ?05:06
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jonois the monthly ubuntu wallpaper still going?05:06
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Pygigladiator: yup05:06
Pygifreaky: ping05:06
rickardbrenner, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/680805:06
gnomefreakpong :)05:06
thegladiatorhow can this b e doe05:06
gnomefreakim here kind of05:06
thegladiatordone*05:06
Katie^kameron, she never used to be05:06
Pygifreaky: not the entire command index :DDD05:06
Katie^until she decided to go all bulemic05:07
thegladiatorlike its got this ./configure stuff etc...05:07
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thegladiatorbut doesnt work05:07
gnomefreaklol05:07
thegladiatortrying to make a deb and try05:07
kameronKatie^: #ubuntu-offtopic05:07
gnomefreakim trying to figure this out05:07
thegladiatorPygi, could you tell me hwo ?05:07
brennerjono: i think it's been debunked.  but have you checked out the ubuntu-calendar* packages?05:07
Pygigladiator: you can visit #motu and/or #motu-school for that05:07
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spikehi05:07
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spikecan anybody help me with font/utf8/unicode issues?05:07
Pygigladiator: but install-check makes simple packages as well05:07
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thoreauputiccheckinstall05:08
Pygithat :p05:08
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grundohwo long it takes to install Qt open source version, im running it now and it seems to take lot of time!05:08
thegladiatorcheckinstall shud be run in the command line ?05:08
thoreauputic!info checkinstall05:08
ubotucheckinstall: (installation tracker), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.5.3-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 132 kB05:08
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gnomefreakcheckinstall is the bomb of installers05:08
martalliCan I ask for some help on setting up a Netgear MA401 802.11b pcmcia card with kubuntu 10.5 on my thinkpad 600e?05:08
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gnomefreak10.5?05:08
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Pygilol  :)05:09
Pygifreaky: will the index be done today?05:09
martalli5.10 lol I'm just starting out here05:09
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: you here?05:09
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djtripanybody know what 128 mb in kb is05:09
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gnomefreakthis is not cool :((( im scared to do anything05:09
thegladiatorthegladiator@thegladiator:~/Desktop/crystal-vista$ checkinstall05:09
thegladiatorbash: checkinstall: command not found05:09
Pygidjtrip: 128*102405:09
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thoreauputic!128 * 102405:09
brennerrickard: sorry my firefox seems to be acting up.  could someone check out his sources.list? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6808  he's trying to enable multiverse to get unrar-nonfree05:09
ubotu13107205:09
Pygifreaky: why is that????05:09
Xoritorhow easy is it to "upgrade" from one release to the next?05:09
thegladiatorhow to check install ?05:09
thegladiator!checkinstall05:09
ubotumethinks checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall05:09
Pygixoritor: it's easy :P05:09
djtrip102405:10
gnomefreaktheglayou have to install it first05:10
AJA-hi, how can i use cpuburn installed with synaptic?05:10
CanYouHelpMePlz13107205:10
thegladiatorah05:10
thegladiatorand then ?05:10
gnomefreakpygiim playing with boxedirc05:10
grundo!hwo long it takes to install Qt open source version, im running it now and it seems to take lot of time!05:10
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thegladiatorit doesnt install :)05:10
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, grundo05:10
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: I'm here05:10
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thegladiatorwhen I use ./configure05:10
Pygifreaky: ah, well :P05:10
thegladiatorsome weird erors come up05:10
Pygifreaky: so, will you be able to write that index?05:10
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CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: ok i'm back on smp kernel, will i need to select it manually in grub each time or will it remember my choice?05:10
gnomefreakpygiyes i will have it for you tonight or tomorrow05:10
Pygifreaky: k05:11
thoreauputicthegladiator: have you installed build-essential and the required -dev packages ?05:11
thegladiatoryes05:11
thegladiatori have05:11
thegladiatorthis is regarding kwin or something05:11
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: I think it'll be the default. btw just uninstall the old kernel if this one works05:11
thegladiatoris that an additional package or something ?05:11
enricoHello.  In breezy, it seems that the package xfonts-chinese-big installs the fonts in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc instead of the new /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc.  Is there a way of making use of the xfonts-chinese-big fonts anyway?05:11
gnomefreakapt-get build-dep <packagename>05:11
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: ok, how doi do that05:11
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mweCanYouHelpMePlz: sudo apt-get remove <name of old kernel image>05:12
enricosoryr, xfonts-intl-chinese-big05:12
gnomefreakbrb i can barely see05:12
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: how do i find the old name?05:12
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enricoand xfonts-intl-chinese05:12
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: dpkg -l|grep linux-image and look for the old one05:13
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rickardbrenner, what is supposed to be written in sources.list?05:13
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mweCanYouHelpMePlz: what does cat /proc/cpuinfo show now?05:13
brennerrickard: looks like it's missing ... replace the contents with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/604705:13
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CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: it shows 2 processors :-)05:13
brennerrickard: you can do that with: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:13
AJA-how can i use cpuburn installed with synaptic?05:14
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brennerrickard: save and close, then sudo apt-get update05:14
thegladiator!paste05:14
ubotupaste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text05:14
martalliMy MA401 is seen in cardctl, and iwconfig reports that eth0 is configured with  the proper essid, and the correct wep key is in place05:14
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: it told me to re-run lilo? can i just ignore since i dont use lilo ?05:14
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rickardbrenner, ok05:14
martalliSomehow, I am not connecting...system settings-> network show two little red antennas "eth0 192.168.0.52 dhcp enabled wireless network device"05:15
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thegladiator./configure works well , make doesnt work well ! I am tryin to install a window theme for kde . the error is like this --- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/680905:15
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: yeah ignore that05:15
thegladiatori cant understand the cause of the error05:15
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: the grub part finished fine05:15
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: now i need to reinstall vmware i guess, since i got a new kernel.05:16
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mweCanYouHelpMePlz: you need to rebuild the modules at least05:16
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CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: how do i do that?05:16
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brennerthegladiator: you poor bastard.  you still doing that? :-/05:16
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: I think sudo vmware-config.pl is sufficient05:16
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: I not 100% positive though05:17
thegladiatorshudnt I be doing that ?05:17
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running05:17
CanYouHelpMePlzkernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 05:17
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: what would i put for that.05:17
gnomefreakvmware isnt GNU?05:18
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: oh you need kernel headers for your kernel. abort and install that05:18
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lucasvognomefreak: of course not...05:18
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brennerthegladiator: no, i meant i feel sorry for you05:18
Blissexgnomefreak: no, it is proprietary, and was sold for lik $800m recently.05:18
lucasvognomefreak: it is commercial05:18
Blissexgnomefreak: have a look at QEMU05:18
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: ok, how do i ge the headers.05:18
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thegladiatorbrenner, you neednt be . i know to take care of myself05:18
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dylan_why isnt there a Thesaurs option in OpenOffice.org yet, like there is in Microsoft Office?05:18
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-686-smp05:18
thegladiatorbrenner, neither me05:19
thoreauputicsudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)05:19
gnomefreaklucasvo, im not even sure what it is i asked the bot he gave me link to download it and he says you did pay for it right?05:19
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CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: ok installed,05:19
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: what do i put when it asks me where they are?05:19
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: maybe you need the kernel source as well. not sure05:19
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: try just enter05:19
thegladiatorits gone to trash anyway , it doesnt deserve a place in my system if its that difficult05:19
martalliIs there a better place to ask a question about my wireless card?05:20
mwe!wireless05:20
ubotusomebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards05:20
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: yes worked, thanks a ton!05:20
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: great05:20
brenneri think you're missing this file: libacl.la  you can use packages.ubuntu.com to do a file search05:20
martallithank you05:20
brennerthegladiator: ^^05:20
thoreauputic!find libacl.la05:21
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CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: i cant believe i didnt have HT running all this time, like 1 1/2 - 2 months .. and i didn't know it.. heh ubuntu never seemed slow enough to notice i guess :-)05:21
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alekandrHow does one go abouts editing gnomes, right click menu? I want to add gnome-terminal to it?05:21
brennermwe: if you aren't getting an answer, keep coming back.  the wireless gurus might just be asleep05:21
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: heh. not everything is optimized for it anyway though but still :|05:21
kemikalekandr:  sudo apt-get intall open-nautilus-terminal05:21
alekandrCanYouHelpMePlz: How did you get ht to run?05:22
thegladiatorbrenner, thanks , now i'll have to take it fromthe trash :D05:22
alekandrkemik: thanks :)05:22
brennerhehe05:22
thoreauputic!tell alekandr about openterm05:22
thoreauputic!openterm05:22
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ubotuTo add the right-click option for opening gnome-terminal on Breezy, install the  nautilus-open-terminal package05:22
CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: better then not having it05:22
CanYouHelpMePlzalekandr: i installed the kernel05:22
alekandroh man, no sudo for me :)05:22
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: sure05:22
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ZenI'll tell you what I really love about linux versus windows--when you "kill" something it actually dies05:22
gnomefreakno sudo on ubuntu?05:23
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mweCanYouHelpMePlz: you didn't even have a 686 optimized kernel :)05:23
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CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: so i should be all good to go now?05:23
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: yeah05:23
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: I think so05:23
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Zenfor a person running 32-bit on an Athlon64, would it benefit me to run the K7 kernel instead of the i386?05:24
whaleyquestion: I have an external hdd that's formated as ext2,  I can't get it mount with read/write, only read.  The entry in fstab looks like: /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ext2    defaults        0       0      | any suggestions,  should it even be in fstab?05:24
ubotuUbuntu Search of 'libacl.la' (1 shown): (/lib/libacl.la, /usr/lib/libacl.la) in libdevel/libacl1-dev.05:24
alekandrIm running  breezy i386 on a amd64fx cpu05:24
gnomefreakZen, you most likely wont see a difference05:24
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alekandrnot enough support for 64bit yet05:24
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alekandreveryone should get amd;s ;)05:25
insomndanybody every got this in mplayer while playing real stream? -> alsa-play: xrun of at least 0.022 msecs. resetting stream05:25
dylan_is there a thesaurus option available in OpenOffice, like the one in MS Office?05:25
thoreauputicthegladiator: ubotu found the package for your missing file ^^^05:25
Zenalekandr: I know--I opted for 32-bit because there's actually 3D with ATI05:25
brennerrickard: how's it going?05:25
insomndfollowed by some other errors... it causes chipping of the sound05:25
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gnomefreakdylan_, yes there is a thesaurse in the repos look in synaptic for it05:25
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mwegnomefreak: but there is at least theretically a benefit from running an optimized kernel05:26
dylan_gnomefreak, thanks05:26
gnomefreakthere is? mwe05:26
gnomefreakyw dylan_05:26
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rickardbrenner - it worked all fine :)05:26
Zenthough, I've found more support for 64-bit linux than XP64 so far05:26
Zenwhich is kinda funny05:26
thegladiatorthoreauputic, thank you , i found it from adept as wekk05:26
brennerrickard: nice.  you've set up your repos now, so you hopefully won't complain about not finding stuff again. :D05:27
thegladiatorwell*05:27
thoreauputicthegladiator: OK cool :)05:27
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ubuntu?05:28
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thoreauputicubuntu    !05:28
rickardumm, anyone knows how to install cedega?05:28
gnomefreak!cedega05:29
ubotuit has been said that cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/05:29
rickardokok05:29
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grundostill running that Qt. . .  install05:30
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whaleyquestion: I have an external hdd that's formated as ext2,  I can't get it mount with read/write, only read.  The entry in fstab looks like: /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ext2    defaults        0       0      | any suggestions?  should it even be in fstab?05:31
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psusiwhaley, yes it should be in fstab.. that looks fine... it should mount r/w... what makes you thinki it isn't?05:31
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DShepherdubuntu has fast user switching?05:32
whaleybecause i can't creat folders to it05:32
whaleydirectories rather05:32
psusiwhaley, you probably don't have permission to05:32
psusiwhaley, look at the permissions on the folder you are trying to create a new folder in05:32
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whaleyi'm trying to create it in the root of the partition05:33
psusilook at the permissions on the root then05:33
DShepherdwhaley: can you sudo?05:33
brennerDShepherd: i've heard that one before.  the answer was no iirc05:33
s_spiffwhaley, u had posted this q on forums?05:33
whaleyerm, wait, its mounted to /media/sda105:33
DShepherdbrenner: really? :(05:34
whaleywhich is r-x05:34
whaleylet me try a chown05:34
whaleys_spiff, nope05:34
brennerDShepherd: yes, unless my memory is shot05:34
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s_spiffthen i tihnk some1 has ...check it out05:34
whaleyi did look around for a bit, but this probably seems to be due to my stubborness to look further :)05:34
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thegladiatordoes any one use knqueror here ?05:34
DShepherdbrenner: what about dapper?05:34
brennerDShepherd: no clue05:34
CanYouHelpMePlzwindows boots up so much faster in vmware, then real xp it's hilarious05:35
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DShepherdthegladiator: you may find more users that use konqueror in #kubuntu05:35
s_spiffthe real xp?05:35
grundo!kubuntu05:35
uboturumour has it, kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/05:35
DShepherdbrenner: thanks05:35
thegladiatori am right there , they are all on dope seemingly all asleep05:35
monziehi all05:35
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s_spiffrumour?05:35
brennerDShepherd: np.  hit the forum though.  i could be wrong05:35
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monziewanted some help in building GNOME from scratch under ubuntu05:35
DShepherdbrenner: will do05:36
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thegladiatorany knqueror users who have installed #kubuntu-dekstop ?05:36
CanYouHelpMePlzs_spiff: yea the real x05:36
grundono...05:36
whaleypsusi, it was a permissions problem and not a mounting/filesystem problem - thanks alot for your help :)05:36
grundoi have Gnome05:36
monzieis it possible to build GNOME from scratch via apt-get source in Ubuntu?05:36
thoreauputicmonzie: why would you do that ?05:36
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thoreauputicmondi: it would just replicate what comes by default...05:37
Dariusshey, can someone help me right quick? trying to install thunderbird...05:37
s_spiffwhat does monzie 's queston mean?05:37
monzieto get gentoo like performance without too much headache, thoreauputic05:37
grundo!man05:37
ubotuThe "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man man" at the command line, or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands05:37
monzieto opimize it for my AMD axp05:37
drmr!man05:37
mwemonzie: but you wont that way05:37
gazis there a file where i would put startup commands/script equivalent to /etc/rc.local in ubuntu?05:37
grundo!ruby05:37
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, grundo05:37
thoreauputicmonzie: compiling stuff makes very little performance difference actually05:37
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mwe!info ruby05:38
grundo;)05:38
monzieafter i get the source cant i set the CFLAGS thoreauputic , mwe05:38
kemikand if you consider compiletimes05:38
grundo!c++05:38
kemikthe "speed increase" is all lost05:38
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monzieto compile tit for my processor?05:38
grundo!Finland05:38
ubotugrundo: What?05:38
kemikgrundo:  dont play with the bot05:38
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thoreauputicmonzie: you would only get a few percentage points improvement - it really isn't worth it05:38
grundook05:38
mwe!info ruby1.605:38
kemikgrundo:  or atleast do it in pm with it05:38
uboturuby1.6: (An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby 1.6.x), section universe/interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.6.8-12sarge1 (breezy), Packaged size: 154 kB, Installed size: 232 kB05:38
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grundoits a damm fine one. .05:39
monziethen why are the gentoo guys mad after compling systems thoreauputic ?05:39
kemikit possesses great wisdom :)05:39
thoreauputicmonzie: because they drink the kool aid :)05:39
kemikmonzie:  because they are just taht.. *mad*05:39
erUSULgaz, no but you can do one. edit a file called p.e local in /etc/init.d/ make it exec and add it to boot process with update-rc.d05:39
feestbijtjesome one knows howto remove installed programs from dpkg05:39
grundocan someone help me? its a question matter of life and dead!!05:40
leonardoshower time brb05:40
hmp!info sylpheed05:40
ubotusylpheed: (Light weight e-mail client with GTK+), section universe/mail, is optional. Version: 2.1.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 489 kB, Installed size: 1244 kB05:40
thoreauputicfeestbijtje:  sudo dpkg -r <packaename>05:40
kemikgrundo:  just ask the real question  ;)05:40
feestbijtjethnx thoreauputic05:40
monzieokay, thoreauputic05:40
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hyakuheifeestbijtje:  dpkg --help | grep remove05:40
hyakuhei  dpkg -r|--remove | -P|--purge <package name> ... | -a|--pending05:40
boxyHey what would cause gnome-session to take FOREVER to load it takes like 8 minutes, could it be a problem with my dns setup?05:40
gazerUSUL, ty i'll try tat05:40
hyakuheioperative@serenity:~$ boxy esd can stop it loading if something is broken with sound05:40
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monziesuppose i want to do it to check out the actual performance diff,, then it's apt-get source *what* here, thoreauputic ?05:41
hyakuheitake esd out of the gnome startup process and try again05:41
grundoi downloaded Qt open source editon from their web site and then i run normally thing make install etc..  and now it takes foreever to install!!!05:41
kameroni have a .bin file, containing vcd data.. can i run it in a loopback like an iso?05:41
boxyhyakuhei, im listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd on Rythembox05:41
hyakuheiboxy: doesnt matter05:41
boxySo it's safe to assume my sound isn't broken?05:41
grundohwo long  it takes???05:41
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hyakuheiboxy: no05:41
erUSULgrundo, why would you do that?05:41
grundowhat?05:41
alekandrthoreauputic: i installed nautilas-open-terminal, how do i configure it?05:42
thoreauputicmonzie: probably apt-get build-dep ubuntu-desktop to get deps - never tried it and never will :)05:42
boxyhyakuhei, so what should i try? or do you have a link?05:42
hyakuheiboxy: sound could be coming through esd / artsd (kde) / alsa / oss(emulation)05:42
erUSULgrundo, a few hours in a decent machine? ;)05:42
thoreauputicalekandr: just right click the deesktop and you should see a menu entry05:42
monziethat didnt work thoreauputic . had tried it earlier05:42
hyakuheiboxy: when its taking ages to boot, drop to another terminal, run top and see whats going on05:42
grundo/:05:42
hyakuheior pstree gdm05:42
erUSULgrundo, compile qt from source05:42
thoreauputicmonzie: if you want gentoo, install gentoo05:42
alekandrthoreauputic: Nope :(05:42
kemikalekandr:  restart gnome05:42
grundomy computer is HP Omnibook laptop05:43
thoreauputicalekandr: try killall nautilus - it should reappear05:43
boxyhyakuhei, esd is running in top is that good?05:43
alekandrok05:43
grundoand it takes time time time.  .05:43
monzienope, then i dont have the ease of use  and community of Ubuntu thoreauputic05:43
grundoi just ..05:43
kemikmonzie:  there really is no point in compiliing programs for the "speed increase"05:43
monziehmm05:43
hyakuheiboxy: wont hurt anything if you kill it, see if your boot speeds up when you do05:43
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boxyhyakuhei, okay thanks is there anything else i can try while im at it?05:44
grundoif someone have do the same and tell mee hwo long it takes. .05:44
kemikmonzie:  especially since compiletimes can be hours for large stuff such as Gnome etc etc05:44
hyakuheiboxy: dont know really, just watch top, see if anything is maxing out05:44
boxyhyakuhei, i figure i might as well try a few things since it takes like 8 minutes to load05:44
thoreauputicmonzie: as I said, what you are doing is pointless - if you want to do it , research it - I don't know the answer sorry05:44
boxyaight thanks05:44
boxybtw how do i set my domain name?05:44
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C-O-L-THow can I play a microsoft game in Linux05:44
C-O-L-T??05:44
kemikgrundo:  it all depends on how fast your computer is etc etc.. or do you think the installation has hung ?05:44
monzieok kemik , can you atleast tell me for what platform are Breezy packages compiled for ?05:44
boxyand is there really anything it should be set to?05:44
kremonteC-O-L-T:  wine or cedega05:44
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monziei mean the pc edition..05:44
alekandrthoreauputic: thanks alot mate :)05:44
grundoyes05:44
grundoi thing it has a hung05:44
thoreauputicalekandr: no worries :)05:44
monziethanks thoreauputic05:45
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kemikmonzie:  x86, 64bit, ppc at least05:45
C-O-L-Tkremonte: Can I play NFS Most Wanted with it?05:45
grundoit keeps rolling rolling rolling . .05:45
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kremontecheck their databases :)05:45
kremonte!tell C-O-L-T about cedega05:45
monzieno i meant for what processor the x86 version is optimized for .. kemik05:45
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boxyhyakuhei, would setting my domain name on this computer help, if so how do i set it?05:45
erUSULgrundo, it will take a long (hours) time is c++ code and it is a large codebase05:45
whyameyeis there a way to mount an SMB network as a drive or something like in WinXP? I want to be able to load and save files from my apps through the network to my Windows machine but I can't seem to figure out how to do this05:45
monzielike fc4 optimizes it for p405:46
grundo:(05:46
rickardI installed wine, how do i start it?05:46
kemikmonzie:  depends on the -deb but the kernels has k6-k7 586-686 etc05:46
hyakuheiboxy: nope, shouldnt effect the load time of gnome at all05:46
grundo4 h?05:46
boxykay thanks bbs05:46
grundo5 h?05:46
hyakuheirickard: wine05:46
kremonterickard:  wine file.exe05:46
monzieya....05:46
kemikmonzie:  but sticking with 386 will be *just fine*05:46
thoreauputicmonzie: if you want better GUI speed, install xubuntu-desktop and/or install lighter apps  - e.g. sylpheed for mail etc05:46
monzieokay..05:46
rickardBut it said it was a grahical user interface in wine05:46
thoreauputicmonzie: you might like the kazehakaze browser for instance05:47
monziei also read in the net about tinkering with the system linker to make things faster05:47
whyameyerickard: what are you trying to do?05:47
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grundoit's qt-x11-opensource version if it has enything do whit the time issue. .05:47
monzieok thoreauputic , dsl uses sylpheed, its quite lightweight05:47
rickardwhyameye, I installed something called xwine with synapic and now I trying to run it05:47
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grundowhat's it is really?05:47
Blissexmonzie: I have some delightful ''speed up KDE'' advice here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxKDE.html#performance05:47
grundoit's qt-x11-opensource version05:48
grundodamm that enter. .05:48
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monzieSorry Blissex , I am a GNOME developer05:48
thoreauputicmonzie: yes, sylpheed is light - I use it as my email client here05:48
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whyameyeI don't know anything about xwine. I can tell you that with regular wine you are better off getting it from the wine repository directly than from ubuntu's repo, assuming you are on Breezy.05:48
_jahshua-can anyone tell me a good cd ripper that comes installed on gnome ubuntu ?05:48
[MusasHi]     ubuntu' ?05:49
erUSULgrundo, you can install qt from repos why are you compiling it from source?05:49
thoreauputicmonzie: you might want sylpheed-gtk2 (I think that's the package)05:49
monziei have started disliking GNOME since the moment i became a GNOME developer05:49
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_jahshua-sorry05:49
leftisthi05:49
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_jahshua-cd write05:49
Blissexmonzie: and general ''speed up Linux stuff on small mem machines'' here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno05-4th.html#05100805:49
leftistin open office which one is the excel one?05:49
s_spiffmonzie, why?05:49
_jahshua-to burn .iso's with05:49
grundoduno..05:49
grundorepos?05:49
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Blissexmonzie: and my KDE advice is 90% valid for GNOME too.05:49
monziesure thoreauputic , but i dont think it can do HTML mail05:49
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grundotell me hwo to stop that ins.. and use the repos pls05:49
s_spiffwhats the advice Blissex ?05:49
whyameyeleftist: oocalc or something like that...05:49
monzieok Blissex , will check it out then, thanks for the help05:49
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RasymasWHO WANTS TO HELP ME???05:49
thoreauputicmonzie: HTML mail is evil ;)05:49
leftistahh thanks05:49
yaccRaskall: With what?05:50
whyameyehow do I save onto a network from a typical app?05:50
Rasymasmouse05:50
thoreauputicRaskall: don't shout05:50
thoreauputicoops05:50
monziethey are moving very slowly s_spiff05:50
Rasymaswhen i load up my ubuntu, it's not moving05:50
thoreauputicRasymas: don't shout05:50
Blissexmonzie:  and to GNOME and memory usage, some sad news and reflections here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno05-2nd.html#05051205:50
s_spiffohh ok...as in,...development wise?05:50
monziebut my gf sends me loads of ecards thoreauputic ;-)05:50
_jahshua-can anyone tell me a good cd burning program to burn .iso images with05:50
mweRasymas: just ask a question and we'll try to help you. don't be lame05:50
grundo:)05:50
kremonte:o the L word!05:50
erUSULgrundo, do a 'Crtl + C' in the terminal05:50
Blissexs_spiff: well, it is in those links, but the main advice is to fix some appallingly stupid defaults in the kernel memory management and IO management.05:50
alekandrAnyone know about HT? My amdfx supports it, and im sure i read somewhere, that it needs to be enabled?05:51
DShepherd_jahshua-:  you can right-click and click burn.. that works well in gnome05:51
grundoand the repos thing?05:51
thoreauputicmonzie: you can open html from sylpheed in your browser05:51
erUSULgrundo, use synaptic05:51
s_spiffhuh?05:51
grundo?05:51
whyameye_jahshua-: I like K3B, but it doesn't come preinstalled with ubuntu05:51
Blissexalekandr: it is usually no worth it a lot.05:51
[MusasHi] ?????  ! :=05:51
grundodetails pls05:51
erUSULgrundo,  System>Admin>Synaptic05:51
monziei am gonna do an apt-get sylpheed right now thoreauputic05:51
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grundoand..?05:51
alekandrBlissex: is there no real performance upgrade?05:52
Blissexalekandr: in part because multiple threads means cache interference etc. But if you got the right app it can give around 30%. All you need is an SMP kernel.05:52
gnomefreakwhy would anyone make a picture a tar thats just nuts :(05:52
thoreauputicmonzie: look for the gtk2 version - it fits in with gnome better05:52
whyameyeI have a network server mounted but I can't find it when I go to save files in my apps...05:52
monzieand i have to stick with GNOME as my DE, otherwise how will i be able to contribute patches05:52
grundoi have Finnish version of ubuntu. .05:52
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grundowhat's is synaptic?05:52
grundocant find it . .05:52
Blissexmonzie: that's fine, just at least fix the kernel fuckups as reported in my links.05:52
alekandrBlissex: I though smp was for duel processor?05:52
gnomefreakit is05:52
alekandrgrundo: system > administration > synaptic05:52
Blissexalekandr: HT is a form of dual processor...05:53
DShepherdgrundo: system > administration > synaptic05:53
grundothere is log out05:53
grundothing05:53
alekandrDShepherd: beat you ;)05:53
erUSULgrundo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto?highlight=%28synaptic%2905:53
monziehow good is the sylpheed-claws-gtk2 version thoreauputic ?05:53
_jahshua-whyameye: sudo apt-get install K3B   ?05:53
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McJerryi have nvidia with twinview....my tv via svidia is what i want as my primary display. my crt is on the right, my tv is on the left, when i startx now, the crt is my pimary display, how do i swap to make tv the primary display05:53
thoreauputicmonzie: don't know, sorry - sylpheed claws is a bit more bleeding edge05:54
gazanyone know a repository where i can get azureus05:54
monziewill try Blissex05:54
gaz?05:54
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mwedo you need to do anything special to get tvout to work with fglrx?05:54
thoreauputicmonzie: it is probably very good - I used to use sylpheed claws a year or two ago05:54
monzieand i need it to automatically sort my mails (from Ubuntu and GNOME mailing lists :-)05:54
grundoah!05:54
grundoThank you!05:54
alekandrhow do i 100% make sure my cpu supports HT?05:54
whyameye_jahshua-: yep that should work. k3b05:55
grundothen i search Qt?05:55
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thoreauputicmonzie: no problem - just set your filters05:55
grundopackage..05:55
alekandrcat /proc/cpuinfo says nothing05:55
Rasymasguys, I have problems with my mouse. As soon as I load up Ubuntu, my mouse stucks in the middle of the screen, it's not moving at all! Any ideas how to solve this?05:55
gnomefreakRasymas, usb or ps/205:55
thoreauputicmonzie: I have all my mailing lists automatically filtered on receipt05:55
DocTomoeHm, Can someone please pinpoint me to how to install a specific version of a package via apt-get, even if its dependencies are broken?05:55
BlissexRasymas: looks like your mouse is not configured at all.05:55
McJerryRasymas, change settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf for your mouse05:55
grundodo you have wireless mouse?05:55
BlissexRasymas: or configured wrong.05:56
grundoyou may chek out its battery. .05:56
whyameyeRasymas: is this a desktop or laptop? Do you know for sure the hardware is ok i.e. does it work in Windows etc.05:56
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thoreauputicDocTomoe: if the deps are broken, it won't work - by definition05:56
alekandrBlissex: any command to check the processor is ht enabled?05:56
monzieokay thoreauputic , i am going in for sylpheed-claws-gtk2 then!05:56
grundoin synaptic do i search for Qt package???05:56
thoreauputicmonzie: fine - you can always uninstall if you don't like it05:56
mwealekandr: you can see if your kernel has ht enabled05:57
Blissexalekandr: no idea. Try 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' and then look up the id string with Google and suitable keywords.05:57
erUSULgrundo, yes05:57
RasymasI have a mouse conected via COM105:57
alekandrmwe: how?05:57
alekandrBlissex: ;) tytyty05:57
erUSULgrundo, and mark it for intalation05:57
gnomefreakif you search for qt it should bring up all related packages for it05:57
mwealekandr: get an smp kernel and cat /proc/cpuinfo and see if it shows two cpus05:57
monziesure , thoreauputic05:57
mwealekandr: you _need_ an smp kernel05:58
monziethe best thing about open source software would be the repositories, i guess05:58
alekandrmwe: a smp kernel wont just fuck my pc up right?05:58
Blissexalekandr: no, SMP will even work on a single CPU05:58
alekandrOk :] 05:58
mwealekandr: hopefully not. keep the old one for backup in case it wont boot though05:58
monzieI am not a kernel develper Blissex , just a 22 yr old guy who's just joined as a GNOME developer05:58
Blissexalekandr: even if SMP sometimes is a bit less reliable then single processor.05:58
RasymasSo, I have a desktop, mouse works fine on windows, i'm using it now, it's some old a4 tech mouse conected via COM1.05:58
DocTomoethoreauputic: and pigs can fly ;) Problem is that I have a joint breezy-dapper system and have to install eclipse, which depends on a specific version of a library, which has since been updated05:58
mwealekandr: I doubt it will prevent it from booting though05:58
Blissexmonzie: yes, but my links tell you how to fix the kernel fuckups with just a few lines of shell.05:59
DocTomoeI know from my debian system that any higher version will work ... so how can I install eclipse?05:59
mwealekandr: just install an smp kernel. it will keep your old kernel by default05:59
BlissexDocTomoe: if you do that kind of stuff then you should know better :-)05:59
alekandrok :)05:59
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McJerryRasymas: nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf and configure your mouse there!!!!!05:59
Blissexalekandr: BTW, have your got some spare cash? Because then there is a little upgrade you could try...05:59
thoreauputicDocTomoe: well, if you are mixing Dapper and Breezy you get to keep both pieces when it breaks ;-)05:59
gnomefreakeclipse doesnt work in dapper05:59
Rasymashow to acces it?05:59
monzieyes Blissex , and that is great work. you really know the stuff inside out. always nice to chat with a hacker06:00
DocTomoegnomefreak: tell me ;)06:00
gnomefreakits badly broken :(06:00
alekandrBlissex: yeah... tell me more?06:00
McJerrywho is uing nvidia with twinview?06:00
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bettong_BOFHSeveas, can you pm me i would like to talk to you06:00
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DShepherddoes anyone know if fast user switching is built into dapper?06:00
bettong_BOFHit's very important06:00
BlissexRasymas: rerun the X configuration and tell it you have a serial mouse on '/dev/ttyS1'06:00
gnomefreaki typed up a bug but i havent heard anything back06:00
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monziegnomefreak, nice nick06:00
Blissexalekandr: Intel have released a really cheap (relatively) dual core CPU, which is almost half the price of the cheapest AMD X2.06:01
McJerryRasymas: i just told you, open a terminal window, and type 'nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf'06:01
gnomefreakty06:01
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DocTomoehm, its manual installation then ... [$nameOfDeity]  save the cli ;)06:01
croutonhowdy folks06:01
Blissexalekandr: it is the Pentium D 820, and has massive cache etc.06:01
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McJerryRasymas: then scroll down to the mouse section and change mouse to /dev/ttyS1 as Blissex said06:01
alekandrBlissex: sounds nice :] 06:01
Blissexalekandr: that is a _lot_ better than HT06:01
Rasymastrrminal window is that black window right?06:01
croutonhopefully quick question - audio CDs aren't being recognized or played at all, any suggestions on how to fix this?06:01
vbgunzI can no longer open my html pages in Firefox... I have .html pages on my system, when I double click them, Firefox does not open them... Anyone know how to fix this?06:01
alekandrI currently have a AMD64 FX 3500+06:01
grundook, shoul i install Qt3 ir 4?06:01
monzieit'll take 17 more mins to download thoreauputic , i am getting all the themes and plugins too!06:01
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Blissexalekandr: that surely does not have HT -- only Intel CPUs have HT06:02
grundoor*06:02
alekandroh man06:02
Hendikinsgrundo: Qt3 at the moment06:02
mwedoesn't he need sudo to edit xorg.conf? Also backing it up first might be a good idea06:02
monzieQt3 -> stability, Qt4-> Bleeding edge grundo06:02
grundoah!06:02
grundo:-)06:02
grundook06:02
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HendikinsIf you want things to work, Qt306:02
gnomefreakDocTomoe, here is the bug https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2184606:02
rounegnomefreak, i have followed the tutorial site u sent me, but, when im trying to do the "make deb" i get, like errors?06:02
Blissexalekandr: you could upgrade to an AMD X2, but they are very expensive. Also, your FX3500 is more or less as good as you can get, huge cache etc.06:02
ruschiHi there - has anyone a valid list of all possible Xkboptions and their meaning ? the manpage doesn't describe waht is possible06:03
gnomefreakroune, did you install build-essential?06:03
alekandrBlissex: cheers :] 06:03
HendikinsI don't see the point in upgrading at the moment. My dual AthlonMP 2600+ CPUs are ticking along merrily.06:03
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rouneyes, i follow the site ^^ but, i will look over it once more06:03
midwintervbgunz, can you open firefox normally? (from the menu etc)06:03
Blissexruschi: XKB is a very mysterious horror. But try looking at 'man setxkbmap' for some hints.06:03
McJerrygoing once, going twice, does anyone else here use nvidia with twinview?06:03
monziethe gnome-devel package rocks, a one shot thing for everything!06:03
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croutontwinview? what's that06:03
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vbgunzmidwinter: yes, Firefox is running :)06:03
l_lamahi all06:03
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BlissexMcJerry: try #NVIDIA, and TwinView is a not a good idea except in special cases.06:03
gnomefreakroune, i havent seen your errors so im assuming they are make errors (thinks you need to install build-essential06:04
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HendikinsSomebody mention Firefox?06:04
abarbacciahey guys - can someone help me take an unformatted USB drive and format it with fat32?06:04
l_lamadoes ubuntu support MP3 and MPEG4 playback out of the box ?06:04
thoreauputic!mp306:04
ubotump3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:04
midwintervbgunz, find an html file on your system - right click on it then select properties and then the 'open with' tab06:04
gnomefreakubotu tell l_lama about mp306:04
McJerryBlissex: no, i think everyone is asleep over there06:04
rounegnomefreak, i think i did atlest, sec ^06:04
thoreauputicl_lama: not out of the box06:04
ruschi@blissex I know..... major pain in the ass to get german umlauts on a sun type 6 keyboard06:04
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midwintervbgunz, is anything selected for that? firefox?06:05
vbgunzmidwinter: yeah, I did that plenty of times :( Firefox will not automatically open if I simply double click an .html file :(06:05
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vbgunzmidwinter: yes, Firefox is selected...06:05
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Blissexruschi: not necesasarily! Do you use KDE?06:05
gnomefreakroune,  please paste the command and errrors you are getting in pastebin please06:05
McJerryBlissex: i meant np, sorry bout that, anyway twinview working fine here i just want to figure out how to swap primary displays06:05
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midwintervbgunz, ah.. hmm06:05
vbgunzmidwinter: one sec06:05
rounegnomefreak, here is the command i used to get that stuff"^^  apt-get install debhelper build-essential fakeroot linux-headers-$(uname -r)06:05
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mwel_lama: the answer would be no, not out of the box since mp3 is not free software06:05
grundoubotu tell grundo about #ubuntu06:05
BlissexMcJerry: IIRC that is done either by just swapping the order in which they are described, or by doing that and then using the 'Screen' directive to do so.06:05
__techpickleis there a dhcpd for ubuntu?06:06
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BlissexMcJerry: but if it is a laptop it can involve the BIOS or laptop specific commands.06:06
MadeyeI have problem with k3b, actually it's new laptop install, 'CDRecord has no permission to open the device'.'You may use k3bsetup2 to solve this problem'06:06
Blissex__techpickle: yes.06:06
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McJerryRasymas: did that fix your mouse?06:06
l_lamathoreauputic, and how could I get them ? by apt-getting something from some section of ubuntu (like non-free in debian) ?06:06
grundodid u change the battery?06:06
rounegnomefreak, and i got some files named linux-headers blabla, in my /usr/src/06:06
thoreauputic!info dhcp3-server06:06
Raskallyacc, thoreauputic: I didn't shout, it was Rasyamas06:06
gnomefreakroune,  you do know that the command linux-headers-what ever kernel you have06:06
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l_lamamwe, I know, but debian have non-free and contrib for such software...06:07
McJerryBlissex: is desktop, been using svideo but just hooked up crt also, now crt primary display by default, want svideo as primary06:07
mwel_lama: yeah06:07
rounegnomefreak, well, i dont know anything about linux ^^06:07
thoreauputicRaskall: tab complete error - it was another "Ra" person -sorry :)06:07
thoreauputic!tell l_lama about restricted06:07
mwel_lama: follow the link ubotu posted and you'll find out how to get mp3 support06:07
gnomefreakroune, you try running uname -r and take the output of that and put it like this linux-headers-output of uname -r06:07
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vbgunzmidwinter: I believe I found the problem... sorry :(06:07
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_jahshua-can anyone tell me commad to bring up my sources list in a text editor06:07
_jahshua-please06:07
croutonanybody had issues with audio cds not being recognized at all?06:07
midwintervbgunz, that's great if you did :)06:08
monzieIf i may, can like minded persons please ask the Ubuntu developers to put the address bar in Nautilus in the default install?06:08
thoreauputic_jahshua-:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list06:08
Raskallthoreauputic: :) I know.. I saw someone had said anything to me and I did a lastlog raskall. Got quite confused since I NEVER SCREAM ON IRC06:08
thoreauputicmonzie: heh06:08
Raskall;)06:08
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thoreauputicRaskall: so I see :D06:08
ruschi@Blissex: yes I use KDE but after a while playing wiht diverse xkb files I don't have these multiple opitons in accessability/keyboardlayout anymore ....06:08
monzieits really required for "usability"06:08
gnomefreakroune, to run that you would sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-10_i386 or whatever the output of uname -r is06:08
vbgunzmidwinter: yup, I was using the new alltray app and was using hidden from taskbar accompanied with another app "devilspie" which was automatically hiding the app :P06:08
ironmikenot @ all06:08
BlissexMcJerry: then check the 'Screen' directive06:08
vbgunzmidwinter: I got it, thanks for your help!06:09
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McJerryk, thx06:09
thoreauputicmonzie: I agree, but it's a gnome thing I think, not Ubuntu06:09
midwintervbgunz, glad you got it working06:09
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Blissexruschi: bad news... But you don't need special XKB files for that, it is a set of standard options.06:09
monziethere are patches available, thoreauputic06:09
thoreauputicmonzie: ctrl-L for a location field, or use the gconf editor06:09
monzieand anyways Ubuntu customizes a lot of their packages via patches, thoreauputic06:09
midwinterthe address bar?06:09
midwinteryes, ctrl-l or gconf..06:10
thoreauputicmonzie: I *am* aware of that :)06:10
Blissexruschi: for example statically I use:     Option"XkbSymbols""en_US(pc105)+gb+group(toggle)+compose(ralt)"06:10
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monziesorry, of course you would. being an op, you are a06:10
Blissexruschi: or dynamically, generated by the control panel: setxkbmap -option -option compose:rwin,lv3:lwin_switch,grp:toggle,altwin:meta_alt06:10
thoreauputicmonzie: being an op doesn't mean I'm an expert - it just means I got asked ;)06:11
Blissexruschi: try the latter for example it might give you some fleeting moment of happiness. If you are lucky.06:11
Hendikinsthoreauputic: Don't you love it when users try educating the people in charge? :)06:11
monzieof course being an  op of this channel you must a developer . or a high member Ubunutu tribal leader..!!06:11
thoreauputicmonzie: in fact I'm just an ordinary luser ;)06:11
DocTomoeall hail thoreauputic06:11
Hendikinsthoreauputic: I get the same in #firefox. Particularly amusing when they point me to a doc page, and I reply with "I wrote that" :P06:12
jendaAnyone know how to transcode from DVD iso image?06:12
_jahshua-how do i use the broken filter to find a broken package in synaptic  ??06:12
monziei second that DocTomoe06:12
thoreauputicHendikins: ROFL :D06:12
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monzieback to the Nautlius thing...06:12
monzie i am sure you must have seen the address bar in KDE06:12
Seveasthoreauputic, I wouldn't say ordinary :)06:12
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Seveasbut yeah, ops are no 'higher persons' than anyone else06:12
thoreauputicSeveas: heh - well OK - eccentric then ;-)06:13
monzieit dynamically updates itself.. thoreauputic , unlike Ctrl L in nautlius, which sucks06:13
_jahshua-anyone?06:13
_jahshua-:)06:13
jenda!transcode06:13
ubotuI don't know, jenda06:13
monzieso the Ubuntu developers can actually update Nautilus via the patch which does it..06:13
croutonnobody's had any problems with audio cd's not being recognized?06:13
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Hendikinsthoreauputic: Usually happens when I'm asking about something obscure in order to improve the docs.06:13
gnomefreaki dont get why i get choices to kick ban blah blah blah if you have to be op to use it06:13
monzietry "sudo apt-get -f"  _jahshua-06:13
grundoi have forget what include file i should call when i want to use QMessageBox:: function?06:13
gazif i download a package which does not need compiling/installing where would one keep it so all users could use it, is /usr/share the play where i should put it?06:14
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gazplay = place*06:14
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gnomefreaki just use my home folder06:14
ruschi@blissex: I always mad e my configurations with a custom xmodmap in my home ? is this obsolete?06:14
rounegnomefreak, i  tried sudo apt-get install debhelper build-essential fakeroot linux-headers-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic, but doesnt work Oo06:15
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ruschi@Blissex I give it a try, thanks!06:15
Blissexruschi: it is obsolete, and can interfere with proper XKB.06:15
gnomefreakroune, please paste the output of that command in pastebin06:15
alekandrHow come beep-player wont play mp3's via a smb share?06:15
alekandrTotem does06:16
rounegnomefreak, .. how? :D06:16
tkupHow smooth should a Hoary -> Breezy upgrade be?06:16
gnomefreakroune, also put the output of uname -r06:16
gnomefreak!pastebin06:16
ubotuI guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:16
_jahshua-how do i use the broken filter to find a broken package in synaptic  ??06:16
Ganjhihey, I'm getting a weird error when trying to run America's Army after the installation. Can somebody take a look at the error in my pastebin? Thanks; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/681006:16
rounegnomereak, 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic06:16
ruschi@Blissex so whre do you specify what characters appear when pressing certain keys, if xmodmap is obsolete?06:16
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ruschifor some odd reasons I get this aring ( the a with a ring on top if I press compose key+a06:17
Blissexruschi: tragically in an XKB config file, which is far more complex.06:17
rounegnomefreak, how do u mean, the pastebin thing ^^06:17
monzieclick on custom and double click on broken _jahshua-06:17
gnomefreakubotu tell roune about pastebin06:17
roune!pastebin06:17
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:17
Blissexruschi: Compose is not the same as Group Switch which is not the same as ISO Level 306:17
gnomefreakroune read the pm ubotu sent you06:18
roune:D06:18
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Blissexruschi: even if Group Switch and ISO Level 3 are pretty similar, and usually configured the same.06:18
meohi... someone knows something about a airport monitormode patch for 2.6.15 kernel?06:18
matt_sup06:18
rickard!cedega06:18
ubotucedega is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/06:18
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matt_hzb zjknv zknb kjfnkjvn k dfjnv  jfkjnckjhvznjzlzbknzlbnkl b06:19
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matt_bhbvfh  fbhbvhvbd  vjfgf06:19
alekandrBlissex: quick question: whats the best sound sys to use: ESD, ALSA, Artsd, or OSS?06:19
grundo?06:19
matt_al06:19
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grundoprolem matt?06:19
croutonfreaking awesome.06:20
matt_alsa06:20
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Zenalekandr: I just use alsa06:20
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skon!java06:20
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs06:20
croutongo breezy - can't even play audio cd's.06:20
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matt_artsd06:20
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Zenalekandr: it is functionally better than OSS and has good support06:20
gnomefreakcrouton, i dont have a problem with it06:20
alekandrZen: for pipeline and source?06:20
croutongnomefreak: that's nice, I do.06:21
ruschi@Blissex I am totally confused...... I have an us layout Sun Type 6 Keyboard and all I want is the effect that when I press Compose + a I get an german umlaut06:21
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gnomefreakcrouton, what are you using to play it?06:21
grundoi have forget what include file i should call when i want to use QMessageBox:: function?06:21
croutongnomefreak: it doesn't even show up as an audio cd.06:21
audreyhi!06:21
thegladiatori have been facing a small glitch while viewing divx files ever since I startde using ubuntu ---->06:21
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Hendikinsskon: Also note that FirefoxPlugins has information about that, so who gets to update the bot accordingly?06:21
croutonso there's no default player that comes up.06:21
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ruschi@Blissex, I already managed to get this in debian Sarge06:21
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skonHendikins, thaknks06:21
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gnomefreakcrouton, open cd-player from audio/sound and pop cd in06:21
welpis there like.. a minimal install option on the CD?06:22
croutongnomefreak: 'empty disk'06:22
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gnomefreakcrouton, is it a copied disk06:22
croutongnomefreak: store-bought06:22
audreywho wants to speak with me?????????????06:22
clastwhen's gonna be the next dapper test release coming out?06:22
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thoreauputicwelp: you can type "server" and do a minimal install without X etc06:22
gnomefreakcrouton, are you using breezy?06:22
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croutongnomefreak: Yes06:22
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gnomefreakclast, no date set yet06:22
welpthoreauputic, what is installed when i do that?06:23
deFrysk!no06:23
ubotuAhh, too bad, I really thought so...06:23
clastgnomefreak, any time frame?06:23
thegladiatorthe divx files can be run as usual and the quality is perfect , except for a small greenish line that kind of blinks at the bottom end of the video06:23
dopfhi, i cant install ubuntu 5.10 on my system (asrock 939 dual + samsung sata2 hdd) - it says no partitions available06:23
thoreauputicwelp: then you will need to use apt to get what you want - it installs the base system only06:23
gnomefreakclast, no not yet06:23
thegladiatordoes nyone know what is causing this ?06:23
clastgnomefreak, thanks! :)06:23
matt_hjcg  dghvgbgfgcjkasjklbgjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjvkbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbgffffffffff      nh06:23
thegladiatorshud I try the official divx player?06:23
matt_dont know06:23
Hendikinsdopf: Does it detect your disks at all?06:23
alekandrAnyone got steam to work on ubuntu, I want to play cs:s :(06:24
Hendikinsthoreauputic: Feel like dealing with matt_?06:24
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clastdopf, are you running a raid system?06:24
thoreauputicHendikins: I'm tempted...06:24
welpthoreauputic, that's brilliant! if i did that, and installed fluxbox or something, would it be speedy eneough to run on a 333mhz laptop with 64Mb RAM?06:24
alekandr!steam06:24
ubotuwell, steam is at http://www.steampowered,com06:24
dopfHendikins: no, i installed win xp first06:24
Blissexruschi: you cant do that....06:24
croutongnomefreak: question is, do I absolutely need the analog audio cable for the system to even recognize it's an audio cd.  i don't think so, but i'm curious.06:24
dopfclast: no06:24
thegladiatorany here watches divx?06:24
thoreauputicwelp: yes06:24
Blissexruschi: Compose requires _two_ keys to follow that.06:24
matt_steam powered is cool06:24
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thegladiatori cant undestand what  could be causing this , probabl a bug06:24
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welpthoreauputic, thanks :D06:24
thoreauputicwelp: you'll need x-window-system-core as well, and an xterm06:24
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gnomefreakcrouton, sound juicer doesnt open?06:25
Hendikinsthoreauputic: You're more patient than I get sometimes06:25
croutongnomefreak: no.06:25
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Blissexruschi: to get "a" with umlaut with Compose you press Compose+:+a06:25
croutongnomefreak: I get a 'CD-ROM Disc' on the desktop, not Audio CD.06:25
rounegnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/681106:25
Blissexruschi: or else you press GroupSwitc+a06:25
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ruschi@Blissex Thanks alot06:25
thoreauputicmatt_: any repetition of your spamming and you will have a short life06:25
welpthoreauputic, i know, i installed debian, but i prefer ubuntu06:25
thegladiatoris divx player present in any repos ?06:25
thoreauputicwelp: OK :)06:25
skonAnyone know how you can paste something into aterm?06:26
welpthoreauputic, plus i mainly use gentoo :P06:26
matt_what???06:26
thoreauputicskon: middle click?06:26
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JarG0nI'm using the 64bit version of Ubuntu using a LiveCD to see if Ubuntu is compatable with my system, and it appears to freeze at the stage where it shows a solid (nonblinking) cursor at the top left hand side of the screen.  Any ideas on what this means?06:26
gnomefreakroune, also paste you full /etc/apt/sources.list file in pastebin06:26
skonthoreauputic, on a laptop...06:26
thegladiatordoes anyone care to help ?06:26
croutongnomefreak: sound works fine, xmms can play mp3s.  i just can't get audio cds to be recognized at all.06:26
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welpthoreauputic, just i didn't like the sound of compiling everythingon the laptop06:26
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matt_mailto:n=muhammad@62.84.83.18806:26
mindmedicthegladiator: i havent seen it anywhere, but there are other players supporting divx06:26
mwematt_: stop being annoying dammit06:26
ruschi@Blissex  Thanks, I zap my Xserver and try again - see you soon06:27
gnomefreakcrouton, have you tried other cds?06:27
thoreauputic!divx06:27
ubotuI guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats06:27
muhammadWhy isn't Firefox 1.5 available in the repos?06:27
croutongnomefreak: Yes, several.06:27
rounegnomefreak, okay,  ^06:27
matt_pease out06:27
_xet!easysource06:27
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:27
thegladiatormindmedic, the problem is a small green demaracting line in the divx movies06:27
gnomefreakmuhammad, not stable enough06:27
dopfHendikins: any ideas?06:27
Hendikinsmuhammad: The Gecko 1.7 -> Gecko 1.8 upgrade breaks stuff.06:27
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thoreauputicmuhammad: because it would break things, even as a backport06:27
ki4iklthis is bull crap, my mom wont let meuse MY 100 dollar gift card to buy a new cam and router cause she says i don't know enough to HANDLE ubuntu and she has never used it06:27
thegladiatorit blinks all the time and it is very thin small line06:27
thoreauputicHendikins: thank you :)06:27
Hendikinsdopf: I've only tried Ubuntu under vmware.06:27
mindmedicthegladiator: have you tried different players?06:28
muhammadk06:28
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mindmedicthegladiator: or different files?06:28
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thegladiatoryes i have tried diff players and diff files and the same file works well in XP06:28
Hendikinsmuhammad: Unfortunately this is somewhat normal with Gecko upgrades. You can install 1.5 alongside the official 1.0.7 though.06:28
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ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:29
mwewhy is it impossible to make a ff1.5 package that does what I do manually when I install it?06:29
gnomefreakroune let me know when its pasted06:29
Hendikins1.5 does have some (mostly extension-related) stability issues though.06:29
mindmedicmhh, strange, have you tried vlc already?06:29
gnomefreaksome?06:29
gnomefreaklol06:29
rounegnomefreak, done :D http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/681206:29
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Hendikinsgnomefreak: Yes, some. Do you do Firefox support?06:29
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croutonsigh, time to reinstall.06:29
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JarG0nCan anyone help with my question?06:29
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JarG0n:/06:29
kenderthiefhello, I am having a problem changing the color depth in X06:29
thegladiatorwith XINE I can , but XINE is terribly slow , I dont know how to make it fast06:30
gnomefreakHendikins, no but i remember more than some :(06:30
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gnomefreakroune thats you full list?06:30
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tomeff___ahojky06:30
kenderthiefI can only get 800x600 with 24bit, which is ugly, but I can't find where to change to 16bit color06:30
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muhammadHendikins: I tried that, but it tells me that another version of FF is already running, and I need to close it, I'm sure 1.0.7 is closed though.06:30
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mindmedicthegladiator: be sure to use the xv extension to use hardware scaling and color conversion06:30
rounegnomefreak, yes... :D i did some guide i got from here, and thats the result :D06:30
rounegnomefreak, becouse i wanted to install xmms06:31
Hendikinsgnomefreak: I'm the SOP in #firefox on moznet, and I'm a general moderator on MozillaZine's forums (who has used the forums since day 1). I say "some" after reading a LOT about user experiences with 1.5.06:31
gnomefreakroune yes that is easysource06:31
mindmedicyou can set the video output method in the preferences or at the command line06:31
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gnomefreakahhh ok Hendikins06:31
rounegnomefreak, is there anything wrong with the soucelist?06:31
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rounegnomefreak, i mean, wont it work?06:31
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gnomefreakroune,  it doesnt look like it06:31
HendikinsThis isn't to say it is bug-free, but generally speaking the problems aren't critical/blocker stuff.06:31
kenderthiefmindmedic: where under preferences?06:31
thegladiatorperfereneces in XINE ?06:31
HendikinsAdblock is our #1 problem with 1.506:31
mindmedicthegladiator: but it depends on your graphics card and x-server preferences if you can use hardware accelerated video rendering06:31
skonNobody knows how to paste into aterm?/06:32
kenderthiefoh06:32
mweskon: press the middle button06:32
thegladiatorgraphisc card is ordinary06:32
rounegnomefreak, do u want the errors from the make deb thing 2?06:32
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mindmedickenderthief: in the video tab in the graphical configuration dialogue06:32
thegladiatorbut windows XP deals with it well06:32
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mweskon: or both if you only got 206:32
gnomefreakroune yes please06:32
gnomefreakill brb06:32
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skonmwe:, k thanks....ctrl alt v wasn't working like in gnome term06:32
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JarG0nI'm using the 64bit version of Ubuntu using a LiveCD to see if Ubuntu is compatable with my system, and it appears to freeze at the stage where it shows a solid (nonblinking) cursor at the top left hand side of the screen.  Any ideas on what this means?06:33
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rounegnomefreak, is it posible to make like make deb >> FILE, and type the errors to a file?06:33
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gnomefreaknot sure roune06:34
CanYouHelpMePlzJarG0n: sounds like a video issue06:35
meshemake deb 2> filename should redirect errors to a file06:35
gnomefreakHendikins, use seveas repos you should beable to get it from them :)06:35
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Hendikinsgnomefreak: I have no interest in Flash myself. I'm just trying to ensure that the docs I write are accurate.06:36
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gnomefreakohhhhhhhhh06:36
rounemeshe, thanks :D06:36
meshenp06:36
gnomefreakgonna try 1.5 again06:36
|Banana|Hey guys, SATA 2 issues. If I try and touch the disk I get various output like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6814 Board is GA-K8NF9 Ultra (nForce4). I'm not sure it is a kernel issue, I'm working from 2.6.15 atm whilst I debug my nvidia graphics problem :)06:36
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Hendikins...and is it just me, or has the macromedia plugin disappeared completely from multiverse?06:37
rounegnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/681506:37
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HendikinsHrm06:39
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gnomefreakroune, if you do apt-get update does it tell you each repo and what arch they are made for?06:39
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thoreauputicHendikins: flashplugin-nonfree - Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer  <-- apt-cahe search flash | grep macromedia06:40
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JarG0nCanYouHelpMePlz> I would agree there.  I'm going to see if I can disable something in the bios to see if it fixes it.06:41
iveqyhello, Ive got problems with my installation. My computer is an ca 400 Mhz compaq prosignia desktop. The installation of ubuntu 5.04 went fine, but after first reboot the computer stays after the command> boot done by GRUB06:41
Hendikinsthoreauputic: I simply ticked all the boxes in synaptic as per the docs on the wiki. I've worked out what the issue is.06:41
thoreauputicHendikins: OK :)06:41
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CanYouHelpMePlzhow do i get rid of open office?06:41
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Hendikinsthoreauputic: I do notice no Flash Player 7.0r61 though.06:42
gnomefreakroune, it looks like either your repos are for 386 or the package doesnt exsits in 6406:42
DreamgliderCanYouHelpMePlz, mark it for remowal in Synaptic Package manager06:43
welphow do i update my computer completly?06:43
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gnomefreakCanYouHelpMePlz, it will remove alot of other things too06:43
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rounegnomefreak, i got an error like this: "failed to fetch http://ADRESSBLABLA/binary-amd64/packages.gz   sub- process gzip rutunred an error code(1)06:43
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gnomefreakwelp, like sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?06:43
Dreamgliderwelp, in terminal type: sudo apt-get update06:43
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welpgnomefreak, Dreamglider, which one?06:44
thoreauputicCanYouHelpMePlz: sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org2  ?06:44
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gnomefreakdist-upgrade06:44
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welpgnomefreak, ok, thanks06:44
HelpmePlzwhats the package name for open office?06:44
welp:D06:44
gnomefreakupdate will only update sourceslist06:44
Dreamgliderdist-upgradi will get him the latest ubuntu right ?06:45
gnomefreakopenoffice.org ...06:45
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thoreauputicah that;'s only the metapackage, sorry06:45
gnomefreakno06:45
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HelpmePlzgnomefreak: no, i mean so i can remove it like threw terminal06:45
gnomefreakunless he changed his sources.list to read a different version06:45
thoreauputicopenoffice.org2 is a metapackage06:45
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gnomefreakHelpmePlz, sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org06:45
Dreamgliderok so a dist-upgradi will get him 5.10 not 6.0406:45
gnomefreak206:46
alekandrany quick easy way to install FIREFOX 1.5?06:46
thoreauputicHelpmePlz: you need to look at the dependencies for that and remove them06:46
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gnomefreakDreamglider, if he has breezy repos it will upgrade and stay as breezy06:46
thoreauputicgnomefreak: removing the metapackage won't remove the deps06:46
Hendikinsalekandr: There is a doc on the wiki about installing Firefox 1.5. I suggest reading it.06:46
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ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:46
gnomefreaki know06:46
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gnomefreak--purge will :)06:46
nopleasehi@all06:46
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jonohi all06:47
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lwolfcan someone help me on configuring a serial mouse on breezy ? i think that my probleme come from my serial port : cat /dev/ttyS0 give me nothing when i move the mouse. Can someone give me a hand ?06:47
Dreamglidergnomefreak, ok06:47
jonowhat is the legality of the w32codecs from marillat ?06:47
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thoreauputicjono: dodgy06:47
gnomefreakDreamglider, dist-upgrade will get you the latest kernel for your version06:47
lwolfjono, it's ok if you have a windows license i believe06:47
Hendikinsalekandr: Additional note: If you're using the adblock extension, remove it before you install 1.506:47
marc_Hello06:47
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mebaran151I am on AMD64 and I would like to use eclipse06:47
mebaran151but each time it fails with a class path error06:48
alekandrHendikins: I have, i need 1.5 for greasemonkey06:48
Hendikinsalekandr: Right. Just checking.06:48
const7hello #ubuntu. I've a problem with wifi-radar and python on a breezy fully "stable" (no extra packages).  when I call :  sudo wifi-radar , I have this error : File "/usr/sbin/wifi-radar", line 1273, in ?06:48
const7    auto_profile_order = auto_profile_order.split( ',' )06:48
const7AttributeError: 'list' object has no attribute 'split' . what can I do? I've reinstalled wifi-radar It doesn't work. should I try to reinstall all python packages?06:48
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JarG0nwhat does this STOP error msg mean? ALERT! /dev/hdc1 does not exist.  Dropping to a shell!06:49
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alekandrHendikins: thanks pal06:49
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kenderthiefhmm I still can't find any video configuration except resolution and refresh rate06:50
Bevinhi06:50
Hendikinsalekandr: No worries. You'd be amazed how many people don't, and then go looking for support, get told to remove adblock, do it, and have their problems disappear :)06:50
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JarG0nI installed Ubuntu on an IDE hard drive, now it's telling me the hard drive does not exist?06:50
Trashcanlol06:50
rounegnomefreak, thanks alot for your help.. i will "google" some now and so, hope i get lucky :D06:51
thoreauputicJarG0n: looks like it has a problem with the first parition on /dev/hdc06:51
thoreauputic*partition06:51
TaHuRuShi, does anyone know how to log into ubuntu as root?06:51
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mebaran151TaHuRuS, you use sudo06:51
JarG0nthanks!06:52
thoreauputicTaHuRuS: don't06:52
mebaran151or you can go sudo passwd06:52
mebaran151and reenable root06:52
thoreauputic!root06:52
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.06:52
mebaran151by giving it a password06:52
verizcan anyone tell me how i can copy a directory from one place to other?06:53
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BockBilbohello there06:53
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Perversushola hay alguien en el canal?06:53
thoreauputicveriz: cp -R /dit/one /dir/two06:53
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verizthoreauputic: thnx06:53
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TaHuRuSthks guys, i'll try06:54
Huhn_der_zwotefunny. I came here to ask about an error that I got everytime I tried to install ubuntu. Now that I wanted to reproduce it and thus quote the error message to you... well it worked06:54
Huhn_der_zwote:D06:54
BockBilbodoes anyone have problems with the firmware of the ipw2200 in ubuntu? sometimes i get to many firmware errors, and the net card stops working... then gnome gets frozen and i have to shut down the computer using the power bottom...06:54
Huhn_der_zwoteanyways will ubuntu run sufficiently fast on an 500 mhz 64 mb ram pc?06:54
Hendikins64MB RAM? That's very... low.06:54
jendaAnyone know how to transcode from DVD iso image?06:54
Katie^goh06:54
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: no, not with a default install06:54
Hendikins500MHz shouldn't be a problem, but 64MB RAM is06:55
DreamgliderHuhn_der_zwote, it will run, but not fast06:55
Huhn_der_zwotedamn06:55
thoreauputicI would try to add some ram06:55
Huhn_der_zwotelaptop06:55
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Huhn_der_zwoteI would if it wasn't a lappie06:55
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Huhn_der_zwotewell I'll install and then see into it06:55
psusiit will run just fine if you don't install the gui ;006:55
monziesylpheed is nice thanks thoreauputic06:55
DreamgliderHuhn_der_zwote, it will run, but not fast. i would not use gnome or kde (i have tried it)06:55
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: else you can do a "server" install and then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop or similar06:55
psusijenda, dvd's don't use iso06:56
psusijenda, they use UDF06:56
thoreauputicmonzie: :) no worries - enjoy !06:56
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Huhn_der_zwotethe thing is I had mandrake before, that was my only linux experience. I totally sucked at installing anything myself so I eventually deleted it06:56
lnostdalhow do i reinstall a package and make it overwrite all the old stuff .. config-files and whatever ..  i've got some annoying package-problems .....06:56
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Huhn_der_zwotethis was what got me going about ubuntu: it looked very easy and nice06:56
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jendapsusi: I dd'd a dvd to iso. It works with xine, but I'd like to make it 700 MB instead of 7 Gb...06:56
Huhn_der_zwoteso I think I'd have a hard time installing xubuntu?06:56
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gnomefreakHuhn_der_zwote, it is very easy and nice :)06:57
monzieapt-get reinstall package lnostdal06:57
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: it is - I suggest you  try what I said above06:57
benplauthow do i use ssh to move files?06:57
jendapsusi: It's an .iso image file...06:57
gnomefreakHuhn_der_zwote, in terminal type sudo apt-get install xubuntu06:57
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psusijenda, you're using incorrect terminology... you copied it to an image file... iso is short for the iso9660 filesystem which is used to store data files on cdroms... dvds use the udf filesystem06:57
Huhn_der_zwotewhat terminal?06:57
gorskihow to enable windows key in ubuntu06:57
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: after the "server" install, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop (you will need the universe repo)06:57
psusiso calling it a .iso is incorrectly labeling it06:57
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Huhn_der_zwoteok...06:58
lnostdalmonzie, "invalid operation reinstall"06:58
thoreauputic!info xubuntu-desktop06:58
Huhn_der_zwoteso where do I get this stuff?06:58
ubotuxubuntu-desktop: (Xubuntu desktop system), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 1.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB06:58
Huhn_der_zwote!info xubuntu-desktop06:58
gnomefreakafter server install as in its not installed yet?06:58
jendapsusi: thanks for enlightening me. And do you know how to rip it?06:58
monziethen do the reinstallation from synaptic lnostdal06:59
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thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: after the server install, do sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the universe lines, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop06:59
psusihrm... under windows I'd use flask mpeg... or virtual dub... let me see if vdub in in synaptic06:59
gorskican somebody tell me a good and simple mp3 player for ubuntu?06:59
Huhn_der_zwotethanks for your help, but what is sudo-apt-get06:59
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Huhn_der_zwoteand where can I get the xubuntu desktop06:59
monziebeep media player gorski06:59
gnomefreakubotu tell gorski about mp306:59
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote:  that's how you get it :)06:59
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: just type those commands07:00
jendapsusi: It is an .iso - that's not so hard to prove.07:00
psusidarn... it isn't... hrm... that one was open source, I thought they had it on linux07:00
thoreauputic!tell Huhn_der_zwote about docs07:00
s_spiffjust installed KDE successfully!07:00
gnomefreakHuhn_der_zwote, just type what thoreauputic gave you to type and poof it iwll be there07:00
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psusijenda, which filesystem to you specify when you mount it?  mount -t iso9660 or mount -t udf?07:00
gorskiok, thank you.07:01
psusijenda, you _can_ burn an iso filesystem on a dvd, but all comercial dvds use udf07:01
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jendapsusi: I never mounted it. But the file is /path/name.iso07:01
Huhn_der_zwotethanks I'll give it a look07:01
lnostdalhttp://paste.lisp.org/display/15510 , monzie07:01
jendapsusi: And xine has no trouble playing it.07:01
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: also read  http://help.ubuntu.com07:01
psusijenda, yea.. you named it wrong.. it should not be named .iso because it does not contain an iso9660 filesystem07:01
jdieranyone have any clues for setting up a share of a ubuntu dir so it is visible from my windows clients?07:01
psusijenda, xine understands udf07:01
mebaran151hey07:01
mebaran151could anyone help me set up eclispe on AMD64?07:02
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JarG0nhow do I pick the SMP kernel after installing Ubuntu?07:02
thoreauputicjdier: windows is blind to any non-windows filesystem (unless you install 3rd party tricks)07:02
monzieeverything seems fine lnostdal07:03
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JDahlmebaran151, I don't think the version that comes with Ubuntu works - I had to download it from eclipse.org07:03
jendaJarG0n: Synaptic search for "linux" and make your pick...07:03
lnostdalmonzie, erm .. no, nothing happens07:03
thoreauputicjdier: or unless you use samba for filesharing on anetwork of course07:03
mebaran151JDahl, can I checkinstall it?07:03
monziewhat is the exact problem that you are facing lnostdal07:03
jdierAny suggestions of third party tricks?  I have all of my music and photos on my linux machine and would like my wife to be able to browse and copy07:03
lnostdalmonzie, ls /var/log/postgresql is empty (no files)07:03
mebaran151and JDahl, will it work with the gcj JavaVM07:03
mebaran151as I am running AMD64 and it is a pain to make JDK work07:04
thoreauputicjdier: ah -you need to install samba then07:04
thoreauputic!samba07:04
ubotusomebody said samba was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently07:04
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monziei dont know much about postgresql07:04
JarG0njenda> can you show me how to do this?07:04
lnostdalstupid freakin rc-script tells me nada  *arf*07:04
jendaJarG0n: open synaptic through system>admin>synaptic07:05
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s_spiffhey i can mount a certain partion by the command : sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt07:05
monziehave you done a "/etc/init.d/postgresql start" after installation lnostdal ?07:05
s_spiffhow do i see to it that It's mounted everytime i boot up?07:05
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lnostdalof course .. see the paste, monzie07:05
Dr_Willisjdier,  also you may need to set a samba password for the user ont he linunx box. whos home dir you wish windows tobe able to access07:05
thoreauputicjdier: got ubotu's URL ?07:05
gnomefreakHendikins, you still here?07:05
jdierI have samba running and use smb:/computer to get to my windows machines.  I just cannot go the other way.07:05
Hendikinsgnomefreak: I shouldn't be, but yeah07:05
JDahlmebaran151, I just downloaded to the tar file and installed in ~/bin. I think it works with gcj - at least I don't recall any problems with Ubuntu's java (blackdown?). I didn't use it much, however; I thought xemacs was easier to use07:05
Dr_Willisjdier,  google for the 'using samba' online book. its got loads of details and examples for different tasks as well.07:05
lnostdalit isn't running .. and the rc-script does not report an error .. and nothing in the log-files in /var/log  (the files aren't even there)07:05
thoreauputicjdier: do you have the samba server installed?07:06
jdierthoreauputic - got them.  Give me some time to review those links07:06
monziesorry lnostdal , i dont know .07:06
gnomefreaklol do you have issue opening 1.5 in xchat?07:06
gorskican someone give me a good reference for installing winfast tv 2000xp card, please?!07:06
jdierYes samba is intalled07:06
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lnostdaldang07:06
s_spiff someone help!07:06
thoreauputicjdier: sure :)07:06
gnomefreak!help07:06
Hendikinsgnomefreak: Nope. I don't use Ubuntu though (aside from a testing install in VMware)07:06
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gnomefreakoh ok ty Hendikins07:06
puppeteerhello07:06
Hendikinsgnomefreak: I simply plan on taking a chainsaw to some docs07:07
freak_i have a question that is probably easy for any of your to answer07:07
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jdierthanks for the tips.  I will try to work it out.07:07
gorskican someone help me for installing winfast tv 2000xp card, please?!07:07
puppeteerbye bye !07:07
gnomefreaksounds fun :(07:07
alekandrdoes breezy only come with firefox?07:07
freak_i was wondering how to get APT to install a package from my home directory07:07
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freak_im trying to install fluxbox07:07
monziedpkg -i packagename freak_07:07
gnomefreakalekandr, you can get a number of browsers but no it also comes with w3m07:07
freak_thank you!07:08
alekandrok good, cause i just borked firefox :] 07:08
gnomefreaksudo apt-get install fluxbox should work07:08
gorskican someone give me a good reference for installing winfast tv 2000xp card, please?!07:08
thoreauputicfreak_: you need sudo in front of that command btw07:08
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Hendikinsalekandr: How'd you break it?07:08
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alekandrHendikins: firefox 1.5 update messed everything up, then i had to remove the packages from broken :(07:09
Hendikinsgnomefreak: After the few thousand times, you don't worry about it.\07:09
klhugheswhats up everybody07:09
gnomefreaklol07:09
Hendikinsalekandr: So you did what?07:09
gnomefreakalekandr, how did you update it? from the wiki?07:09
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alekandrgnomefreak: yeah07:10
gnomefreakdid you set it as default?07:10
alekandrok reinstalled07:10
alekandr<3 synaptic07:10
klhughesDoes anyone know how to keep devices from "auto-opening" when they get mounted?07:10
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alekandri need 1.5 for greasemonkey support07:10
HendikinsHrm. Any wonder I'm going to be chainsawing the Firefox docs in the wiki?07:10
alekandri have 1.0.707:10
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alekandr!firefox07:10
gnomefreakalekandr, you have 1.0.7 or 1.5 or both?07:11
alekandr!firefox1.507:11
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion07:11
ZoohouseCan I compile exe for windows using the defult gcc installation?07:11
gnomefreak!ff1.507:11
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion07:11
alekandrgnomefreak: 1.0.7, but i need 1.507:11
monzieno Zoohouse07:11
HendikinsI'm in the process of attacking that page right now07:11
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Zoohousemonzie, what do i need?07:11
gnomefreakHendikins, the wiki page?07:11
monziei dont think you can do it Zoohouse07:11
mebaran151Ubuntu uses a whack gcj version07:12
gnomefreakmebaran151, than change it07:12
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monziebut you can get gcc for windows using Cygwin07:12
mebaran151gnomefreak, that's harder than it sounds07:12
mebaran151I've tried07:12
gnomefreakno its not07:12
mebaran151but it seems they conflict with each other07:12
mebaran151at least on AMD64 it rendered openoffice inoperable07:12
mebaran151and all the Java applications just simply crashed07:12
thoreauputicmebaran151: you can innstall sun j2re , then run sudo update-alternatives --config java07:13
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monziesearch google for cygwin please, Zoohouse , i dont think this topic concerns Ubuntu07:13
thoreauputichmm amd64 I don't know about with java though07:14
Zoohouseok thx07:14
sapohi all, anyone knows where gnome store the cdrom devices info? my fstab is corret, but gnome shows 4 cdroms drive.. and i just have 2, its duplicating :(07:14
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boxyFor HyperThreading do i just install a smp kernel?07:14
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gnomefreaksmp is for duel proccesers07:15
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boxywell how do i get HyperThreading to work?07:15
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freak_what's the package "menu"? fluxbox needs it07:15
JarG0nIs the 64 bit version of Ubuntu relatively stable, or do people have many issues with it?07:16
rickard!nvidia07:16
uboturumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736807:16
Hendikinsgnomefreak: since HT is emulated SMP, you use an SMP kernel for it too. Just FYI.07:16
thoreauputicfreak_: sudo apt-get install menu07:16
gnomefreakboxy, i dont know if hyperthreading is supported in ubuntu07:16
czrboxy, smp kernel with HT enabled07:16
freak_alright, thanks07:16
mebaran151JarG0n, only java seems a little touchy on 64 bits07:16
gnomefreakoh ok ty Hendikins07:16
czrht is supported ok, just install the smp kernel07:16
czryou need also to check that HT is enabled in your bios07:16
boxyyeah07:17
boxyso no extra kernel configing?07:17
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Huhn_der_zwotecan you give me some advice which kernel to install? yes documention and wiki, but the starter guide doesn't work for me07:17
HendikinsNo extra configging07:17
HelpmePlzanyone else having problems running any of the doom apps?07:17
czrboxy, should be ok out of the box07:17
JarG0nmebaran> thx07:17
boxyczr thanks07:17
HendikinsTo the OS, HT is just the same as SMP, so nothing special is involved.07:17
boxyyeah thats what i though07:17
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Hendikins(Of course, SMP whips HT, but that's another matter...)07:17
boxybut gnome told me diff07:17
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: just accept the default - you can change it later if you wish quite easily07:17
boxyof course Hendikins ;)07:17
gnomefreakboxy i was mistaken07:17
boxyits alright07:18
czrkernel config has separate ht option so that the scheduler will know when to allocate processes to another logical cpu07:18
boxy:)07:18
Hendikinsboxy: gnomefreak was incorrect, and has been duly corrected :)07:18
freak_"menu" is not available07:18
boxyhah07:18
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: the kernel type won't make a huge difference07:18
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Huhn_der_zwotedefault would be?07:19
HendikinsHuhn_der_zwote: If you don't know what you're doing, there is no need to change the default.07:19
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gnomefreakHendikins, i remember reading something about ht not being supported maybe they changed it07:19
gabiheloo07:19
Huhn_der_zwotewell I dont want to change it, but they ask during install anyways07:19
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: i386 - but that's what the installer gives you - and it doesn't ask07:19
gabiis anyone alive ?:)07:19
thoreauputic:)07:19
boxySo czr do i need to compile the kernel source by hand or will apt-get install linux-686-smp handle the HT part?07:19
Huhn_der_zwoteit did07:19
HendikinsHuhn_der_zwote: Then just leave it well enough alone.07:19
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JarG0ngabi> I hope so!07:19
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: are you using the server ISO ?07:19
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gabiok i have a little problem with my breezy system07:20
gabi:)07:20
HendikinsThe default will work in the overwhelming majority of cases.07:20
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: you didn't need to...07:20
boxyoh okay07:20
czrboxy, 686-smp will work just nice for you07:20
Hendikinsgabi: Well, we can't help you fix it unless you tell us what it is.07:20
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Huhn_der_zwoteyeah I am07:20
boxyspeaking of which do you guys have any idea why Gnome takes like 8 minutes to load?07:20
gabihow cand o login as a root? what is the command ? su ?07:20
JarG0ndoes the 686 correspond to 64 bit?07:20
gnomefreaksudo07:20
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czrboxy, you have working dns?07:20
Huhn_der_zwoteit might be due to the installation part of the kernel failing before, so I had to redo it07:20
Hendikins686 is 32bit Pentium II or higher07:20
JarG0n386 - 32bit?07:20
welpthoreauputic, what did i need for X again?07:20
boxyczr like as in my internet works?07:20
monzielogging in as root is not recommended07:20
gnomefreakgabi, sudo <command>07:20
czrJarG0n, no. 686 corresponds to pentium II optimized kernel07:20
boxyi know DHCP works07:21
czrboxy, yes07:21
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: oh - you didn't need that - just typing "server" witht the ordinary installer is enough07:21
gabisudo and what ?07:21
JarG0noh ok07:21
gnomefreakor gabi sudo -i07:21
boxyYeah my internet works im on it right now07:21
gabilet's try07:21
gabi:)07:21
thoreauputicwelp: x-window-system-core07:21
Hendikinsczr: For the sake of my curiousity, is there an athlon-smp kernel floating around?07:21
gnomefreakgabi, what are you trying to do?07:21
welpthoreauputic, thankee07:21
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gabito edit my motd.conf file07:21
gabi:)07:21
thoreauputicwelp: install a terminal too :)07:21
Huhn_der_zwotethoreauputic: right now I'm installing the normal ubuntu. although highly probable that it will be slow as hell, I want to find out first if it really doesn't work07:21
welp:D07:21
welpok07:21
czrHendikins, don't think so. you won't notice any difference wrt speed anyhow, 686 should be ok07:21
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thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: hmm - 64MB is below the recommended minimum07:22
czrHendikins, you could roll out your own of course07:22
welphow do i get aterm?07:22
gnomefreakgabi, sudo gedit <path>07:22
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Hendikinsczr: I won't be using Ubuntu outside of vmware. I'm not changing distro.07:22
gabignomefreak, thanks07:22
gnomefreakyw07:22
gabii prefer to use sudo -i07:22
thoreauputicwelp: enable universe, sudo apt-get install aterm07:22
Dr_Williswelp,  you mean 'aterm' or.. ' a term' :P07:22
gabi:)07:22
gnomefreakxterm :)07:22
Hendikinsand Workstation 5.5's dual CPU support makes my dual CPU machine keel over07:23
welpoh, enable universe...07:23
czrHendikins, under vmware doesn't matter which kernel you use, vmware slows down them all quite nicely ;-)07:23
welpgnomefreak, atermis faster07:23
welp*atermis07:23
Huhn_der_zwoteah well, I'll try and find out.07:23
gabibut when i log in from another pc to my ssh server how to access the root ?07:23
welp*aterm is07:23
gnomefreakwelp, i know07:23
Huhn_der_zwote:)07:23
thoreauputicwelp: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list ;-)07:23
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czrgabi, ssh as normal user, then use sudo to gain temporary root for commands07:23
czrgabi, man sudo07:23
gnomefreaknano :(07:23
thoreauputicwelp: but you knew that, right ?07:23
gabiok 10x guys07:23
HelpmePlzanyone know why prboom only plays in a small window?07:23
thoreauputicwell, $EDITOR07:24
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HelpmePlz!doom07:24
ubotuhmm... doom is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Doom307:24
gabiit's the first time i use ubuntu :)07:24
boxyis the config file for grub /boot/menu.1st?07:24
binais there a command that I can use to burn an ISO to CD from the terminal?07:24
Hendikinsczr: VMware's virtual SMP is horrid. My box doesn't even flinch running 2 virtual machines at once, but using a VM with 2 virtual CPUs kills it stone dead.07:24
DreamgliderHuhn_der_zwote,  i had ubuntu installed on a 500MHz, 46MB ram and 4MB grapiccard, it did indeed work07:24
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thoreauputic!start an editor war07:24
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, thoreauputic07:24
tr011gabi, contraz.....07:24
JDahlbina, cdrecord07:24
czrHendikins, haven't tried 5.5 yet07:24
Dreamglider64MB sorry****07:24
Huhn_der_zwote:)07:24
binaJDahl: thanks07:24
thoreauputicoh ubotu doesn't like editor wars !07:24
Huhn_der_zwoteits an old vaio laptop07:24
czrHendikins, just know that running anything under vmware is slow, so a question between using athlon-smp and 686-smp is moot07:24
DreamgliderHuhn_der_zwote, mine is an old fujitsu laptop07:25
gnomefreakDreamglider, server install?07:25
Hendikinsczr: Well, unless you're using a 4-way box, don't touch the dual virtual CPU support.07:25
gnomefreaklol07:25
HelpmePlzczr: im running the smp kernel, and i run xp pro on vmware and it runs perfectly.07:25
Dreamglidergnomefreak, no normal install07:25
freak_do Debian3.1(Sarge) packages work with ubuntu?07:25
alekandrfirefox 1.5 loads everything so slow07:25
Hendikinsczr: and I don't find VMware to be that slow. Of course, I've got dual 2GHz CPUs...07:25
gnomefreakDreamglider, and it worked fine?07:25
czrHelpmePlz, I didn't say it wouldn't work, just slow07:25
thoreauputicDreamglider: was it horribly slow?07:25
HelpmePlzczr: it's not slow for me :\07:25
Dreamglidergnomefreak, used gnome :) DANG it was slow as a mother ******07:25
czrwell, it's slow for me :-)07:25
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gnomefreakahh yeah figured so07:26
czrthat wasn't the point though07:26
gnomefreak128 is min recommended07:26
Niko-formerlyEagwhere can I find more repositories for breezy?  none of the ones I'm using contain mplayer07:26
Hendikinsczr: We gathered. My question was merely for curiousity value, as stated.07:26
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gnomefreakubotu tell NiklasH_work about easysource07:26
thoreauputic!info mplayer-58607:26
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freak_do Debian packages work perfectly with ubuntu?07:26
ubotumplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB07:26
gnomefreakfreak_, nooooooooo07:26
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Dreamglidertook about a minute to load the gnome menu lol07:27
gnomefreaksorry07:27
thoreauputicNiko-formerlyEag: you specify which one -and it is in multiverse07:27
gnomefreakpackages yes sources no07:27
czrHendikins, no athlon optimized kernel in supported ubuntu at least07:27
monzieall those who think Ubuntu would have been better off using XFCE as default desktop, say yes!07:27
gnomefreakubuntu has most if not all debian packages and more07:27
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Niko-formerlyEagthoreauputic: thank you07:27
gabiguys any reccomandation for a iptables GUI ?07:27
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czrgabi, xterm? ;-)07:27
freak_so if i download packages for debian3.1 off their website, will they work will ubuntu ?07:27
gnomefreakfirestarter07:27
YannTechhello all,07:28
thoreauputicfreak_: don't do it07:28
gnomefreakfreak_,  you shouldnt have to07:28
thoreauputicfreak_: you *will* break something07:28
HendikinsGuaranteed07:28
gnomefreakfreak_, what package are you looking for?07:28
Dreamgliderwho said xubuntu-desktop was 5kb packed and 32Kb installed ?07:28
freak_i need some package named menu, and apt repos dont have it07:28
freak_need it for fluxbox07:28
gnomefreak!info menu07:28
YannTechi want to create a DvD with all package (i586 arch) an apps to rsync with multiverse apps ?07:28
ubotumenu: (generates programs menu for all menu-aware applications), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 2.1.25 (breezy), Packaged size: 377 kB, Installed size: 1620 kB07:28
thoreauputicDreamglider: it's a metapackage07:28
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gnomefreakfreak_, enable universe repo07:29
Huhn_der_zwoteok  the normal ubuntu setup crashed again, I'm gonna do the server one07:29
Dreamglideri just installed it, it is some 25Mb!07:29
thoreauputicDreamglider: so it installs much more than that (all the deps)07:29
Dreamgliderok07:29
thoreauputicDreamglider: apt-cache depends xubuntu-desktop to see :)07:29
monziefirestarter gabi07:29
freak_is there anyway to tell the ad/remove programs thing to automatically go to advanced?07:30
gnomefreakxubuntu-desktop is a full desktop with alot of extras07:30
gnomefreakfreak_, enable universe07:30
Dreamgliderohyea :)07:30
Huhn_der_zwoteok, so sofar I just install as a normal server, right?07:30
gnomefreakubotu tell freak_ about universe07:30
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freak_gnomefreak, im going07:30
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freak_ubotu tell gnomefreak i'm going07:31
thoreauputicfreak_: look for synaptic package manager or type  gksudo synaptic at a terminal prompt07:31
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freemanenhow many people use ubuntu?07:31
gnomefreak:)07:31
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joergdwhat software is used for the "ubotu" bot?07:31
Dreamglideri do.07:31
thoreauputicfreemanen: how could we know?07:31
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freak_i know07:31
thoreauputicjoergd: it's ablootbot07:31
gnomefreaksoftware?07:31
tonyyarussoWhat should a grub line look like if my main Ubuntu partition is sda5 (/), but /boot is on sda9?07:31
thoreauputic*blootbot07:31
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Lord_Athurwhere does the apt-get program put the donwloaded .deb files?07:32
Huhn_der_zwotethoreauputic: I know before I thought I was smarter than you, but as the normal install failed I'll try the server one now. I just normally install the server thing and then enter these commands that install the xubuntu stuff, right?07:32
gnomefreakthoreauputic, bloodbot07:32
tonyyarussoI think grub-install is getting confused and not knowing that /boot is separate, so then at boot it tells me file not found.07:33
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Lord_Athurhi all, where does the apt-get program put the donwloaded .deb files?07:33
Blissextonyyarusso: you should have the boot partition number as the RUB root, but '/dev/sda5' for the kernel's root.07:33
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: yes, do the server install, edit your sources.list. update, and install the other stuff07:33
tonyyarussoLord_Athur, It doesn't, it installs them directly with apt-get install.07:33
Lord_Athurok07:33
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midwinterLord_Athur /var/cache/apt/archives07:33
Lord_Athurthanks07:33
runxctryhi everyone!  this is my first time using IRC, and i'm having some trouble installing ubuntu07:33
tonyyarussoThanks, Blissex.  Will try that.07:33
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Huhn_der_zwoteupdate?07:33
freak_ok, how do i enable the universe repo07:33
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: note that xubuntu-desktop reaquires the universe repo in your sources07:34
gnomefreakfreak_,  did you read the pm ubotu sent you?07:34
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monzieUbuntu starter guide freak_07:34
jadewolfkameron, Whats up buddy?07:34
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JarG0nUbuntu starter guide JarG0n07:34
rickardAnyone here play Tibia?07:34
runxctryactually i would like to know how to enable the universe and multiverse repositories too07:34
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: after editing your sources to include universe,  sudo apt-get update  to refresh the data in your list07:34
Blissextonyyarusso: like 'root (0,8)', 'kernel (0,8)vmlinuz.... root=/dev/sda5'07:34
freak_gnomefreak, no i didn't send it again07:35
Huhn_der_zwotesorry, I know that nothing is more annoying than people that just don't get it when you're helping them, but what is the universe repo07:35
gnomefreakubotu tell freak_ about universe07:35
midwinter!repositories07:35
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource07:35
thoreauputic!tell Huhn_der_zwote about repos07:35
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thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: universe is a store of software that apt/synaptic accesses, like main and multiverse07:35
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thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: you tell apt where to look and it gets the software for you and installs it07:36
jadewolfSo what do you guys do with ubuntu? I need ideas what I can/should be doing with it? I have sold or given away all my windows stuff07:36
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Huhn_der_zwoteI need an internet connection for that?07:36
gnomefreakjadewolf, what do you use a computer for?07:36
tonyyarussoBlissex, I have 'root (hd0,8)', 'kernel  /boot/vmlinux.... root=/dev/sda5.  Should I change that to like yours?07:36
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: yes07:36
runxctrythanks for the link!!  can someone tell me how to enable the universe or multiverse repositories from the commandline?  i'm stuck in recovery mode07:37
Huhn_der_zwotewell..07:37
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: the install shoud prompt to set that up for you07:37
Huhn_der_zwoteI dont got internet on that laptop07:37
JDahljadewolf, webbrowsing, emails, wordprocessing, programming?07:37
gnomefreakrunedude, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list07:37
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: then you will have trouble07:37
jadewolfgnomefreak, personally I use it for internet, play games, listen to music, webdesign07:37
rickard!ntfs07:37
ubotuntfs is probably the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK07:37
Huhn_der_zwoteoh fuck it.07:37
gnomefreakjadewolf, than you can start with those :)07:37
Huhn_der_zwoteI'm already starting to hate linux again07:37
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: you can't connect to another network?07:38
gnomefreakjadewolf, everyone uses ubuntu for different things07:38
tonyyarussorunxctry, gedit of course is gui, try pico, vi, or nano for editing on the command line.07:38
jadewolfgnomefreak, I figured as much just wanted to see if anyone had a 'special' thing they do with it07:38
gnomefreaki use it as primary OS everything ive done on windows and much much more :)07:38
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: another approach would be to install something really fast like Damn Small Linux07:38
gnomefreakgedit is not gui07:38
monzieUbuntu should have a song , just like BSD07:38
jadewolfthat and I can't get fallout 2 to work worth a crap, the menu fades so slowly it takes 2 minutes to just start and then fade07:38
runxctrygot it, after i make the edit07:38
runxctrywhat do i do07:39
Huhn_der_zwoteit will get difficult07:39
Huhn_der_zwoteconfiguring the inet without a gui07:39
Huhn_der_zwotewell I'll try07:39
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: Debian and Ubuntu both use the network extensively07:39
midwinterrunxctry, just save it and then sudo apt-get update07:39
gnomefreakrunxctry, read what ubotu posted and add the universe and multiverse to the list07:39
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: the installer normally uses dhcp to configure inet and it should be easy enough07:40
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thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: but be connected when you try the install07:40
Huhn_der_zwoteok thanks for your help.07:40
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tonyyarussoOkay, time to see if I can boot.07:40
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kameronjadewolf: hey man!07:40
Huhn_der_zwoteduring install I need to connected?07:40
Huhn_der_zwotedaaaamn07:40
thoreauputicgnomefreak: the fact that it is a gnome editor and not a CLI editor?07:40
gnomefreakHuhn_der_zwote, no not during07:40
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azatothhello! anyone uses drbd?07:40
jadewolfkameron, hey, I got everything working except wine runs game for crap, least my setup runs it bad07:41
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thoreauputicgnomefreak: it's easier if you are connected07:41
kameronjadewolf: wine is an art07:41
JarG0n"Configuring Bycyclerepair" ?!?!07:41
gnomefreakthoreauputic, its not graphical tho its still opens like nano for most part07:41
jadewolfkameron, wanna teach me to paint? :)07:41
Huhn_der_zwoteI got a wlan extension07:41
Huhn_der_zwotebut I need to config this first so it will access07:41
midwintergnomefreak, it is?07:41
jadewolfvi is the best editor IMO07:41
gnomefreakthoreauputic, only for detecting hardware07:41
kameronjadewolf: haha.. i don't use it much. i just know it's tricky.07:42
thoreauputicgnomefreak: hmm never tried that :)07:42
jadewolfbut I been using it since I played with Redhat 3.0.307:42
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Huhn_der_zwotewhatever. I'll just try to install the server, then do the xubuntu stuff.. one thing at a time07:42
rickard!wine07:42
kameronjadewolf: i will be attempting CS:S today though, so i'll let you know how it goes.07:42
jadewolfkameron, everything runs just the menu takes for ever to fade07:42
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: why don't you just plug the nic in to a network and try it ?07:42
gnomefreakemacs looks more like a gui editor than gedit does07:42
Huhn_der_zwotebecause then this pc has no inet07:42
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Huhn_der_zwoteand I cant follow any further instructions07:42
kameronjadewolf, what menu? what game?07:42
thoreauputicHuhn_der_zwote: no network interface card?07:42
kameronjadewolf, #winehq07:43
jadewolfHuhn_der_zwote, I did server install, and then just apt-get install ubuntu-desktop07:43
alekandrJAVA wont install for firefox :|07:43
freak_anyone have pekwm working on ubuntu07:43
rickardI don't have any windows left on my computer... I am scared07:43
jadewolfkameron, Fallout 307:43
jadewolfer 207:43
jadewolfkameron, fallout 207:43
kameronjadewolf, ah, never played it. usually i'm addicted to 1 game per year, and don't play anything else. this year it's CS:S07:43
rounegnomefreak, are u there? :D07:44
gnomefreakrickard, the worst that can happen is you mess something up cant fix it have to re-install07:44
gnomefreakroune?07:44
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rounegnomefreak, im back haha :P, i was wondering, can it be coz i got both the gcc stuff and the build essetianls or something? :P07:44
jadewolfkameron, its a game from like 1998ish and its really fun, post nuclear war turn based RPG07:44
runxctryare backports and multiverse the same thing?07:45
gnomefreakroune,  its complaining about the wrong arc so either the package is only in 32bit or your sources are 32 bit07:45
kameronjadewolf, cool.07:45
thoreauputicrunxctry: no07:45
gnomefreakrunxctry, no07:45
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jadewolfkameron, it is, you can be good ro evil :)07:46
rounegnomefreak, well, i got a friend that uses 64bits, and he got it working.. :/ but, he couldnt help me ither :/07:46
Dreamgliderthe only games i try to play on linux are the ones that get installed with it07:46
gnomefreakroune, what app is it again that is erroring ?07:46
kameronjadewolf, nice, reminds me of.. that.. game. i forget. damn. #ubuntu-offtopic07:46
rounegnomefreak, well, i think it is when im trying to install ndiswrapper, i cant do the "make" thing ^07:47
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gnomefreakwith build-essential make is installed07:47
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gnomefreakroune, do you still have the pastebin sites?07:47
rounenope :/07:48
erl_oapp07:48
flogistoni seek for a lightweight musicplayer.07:48
rounegnomefreak,nope:/07:48
flogistonWhat do you recomend?07:48
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thoreauputicflogiston: depends how light - on the command line you can use cplay or mp3blaster07:48
gnomefreakroune,  when you type make what happens?07:48
thoreauputicflogiston: in the GUI, probably beep-media-player07:49
rickardIs there any correspondence to bat files in linux?07:49
flogistonMy bmp takes about 110MB at the moment.07:49
thoreauputicrickard:  bash scripts are sort of bat files on steroids I guess07:49
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rounegnomefreak, well, i dont understand much of it .. umm..07:49
boxyhey czr you still here?07:49
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Huhn_der_zwoteWtf, again the install didn't work.07:50
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gnomefreakat the end of it does it say an error? roune07:50
rickardthoreauputic: how do I make them?07:50
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Huhn_der_zwotethe file for the preconfigured installation could not be load from (dir) you can continue with the manual install07:50
thoreauputicrickard: ummm - I can give you a link if you wait a bit07:50
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rounegnomefreak, "make: *** [all]  Error 2" ^07:50
moppy_huhu, endlich xcaht07:50
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Koruptis there any way to hide an application from the GNOME taskbar?07:51
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rickardthoreauputic: yes, thanks07:51
moppy_oops07:51
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gnomefreakroune, you started with a tar.gz file right?07:51
Huhn_der_zwotethis makes me go crazy.07:51
thoreauputicrickard: http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/07:51
ivokshellou07:51
ivoksone question07:51
rounegnomefreak, it also says something like :"gcc-3.4: Command not found"07:51
Huhn_der_zwotewhy wont the preconfigured installations work?07:51
ivokshow the hell can i disable "wait for dial tone (x3)" in network-admin?07:51
Huhn_der_zwotebetter why can't they be found07:51
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gnomefreakroune, sudo apt-get install gcc gcc3.407:52
thoreauputicrickard: learning bash is a bit n=more than DOS - as in a huge lot more :)07:52
gnomefreakbash is fun :))07:52
rounegnomefreak, i unzipped the tar.gz file, and now im standing "in" it07:52
ivoksor in /etc/ppp? any solutions is welcome :)07:52
czrboxy, yeha07:52
czryeah even :-)07:52
gnomefreakroune, did you happen to run ./configure?07:52
boxyczr, hah when i try to boot the smp kernel it hangs at configing the network could this have anything to do with ndiswrapper?07:52
runxctrythanks everyone for the help, i got universe enabled -- installing the package didn't fix the problem but at least i connected to the repository07:52
rounegnomefreak, "nu such file or directory"07:52
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JarG0nafter installing Ubuntu, how can I go about correcting video problems (cursor freezes top left, black screen) that occurr after loading the "Starting Hardware Extraction Layer" module?07:52
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sproingieextraction?07:53
gnomefreakroune, after unpacking the tar you cded into the new file that it made right?07:53
czrboxy, most definitely07:53
JarG0nI think that's what it said07:53
czrboxy, ndiswrapper is satans little helper :-)07:53
rounegnomefreak, the apt-get said"gcc is already the newst version"07:53
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Huhn_der_zwoteWhat can I do against the preconfigured installations not working?!07:53
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boxyczr heh i agree but my WiFi disagrees with that comment :P07:53
rounegnomefreak, yes, a ...directory07:53
boxyczr so what should i do?07:54
czrboxy, then your wifi is in league with satan :-)07:54
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gnomefreakok good now type ./configure --help07:54
boxyczr, i'd love to go buy a new one but i cant lol07:54
czrboxy, call your local excorsist? if you had ht, then you need to decide whether you need ht or not :-)07:54
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czrboxy, you might want to try to find an smp version of the wifi driver07:54
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boxyits a linksys windows driver though07:54
gnomefreakroune, also give me page of wiki you are using please07:54
czrboxy, and then rebuild ndiswrapper maybe, I haven't ever touched ndiswrapper (for good reasons), so I wouldn't know07:54
lynxDoes anyone know which folders contain temp files and cookies so I can keep those clean07:54
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gnomefreakczr, rounes learning :)07:55
boxyis it possible to have apt-get build it rather then download the dep?07:55
stianHow can i configure my usb mouse to get a working scroll wheel?07:55
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czrgnomefreak, rounes?07:55
lynxI know in windows I had to go through and clean out the cache07:55
azatothanyone has running drbd? i would need help please.07:55
stianany idea, im using kde07:55
gnomefreakczr, yes hes playing with those drivers as we speak07:55
czrlynx, browsers have their own caches, otherwise programs should put their temp stuff under /tmp07:56
rounegnomefreak, for the moment i closed them all, but i followed the "how to" u sent me.. then the iwconfig didnt fint my card, so then i went into some link.. gimme a sec n ill track it ^^07:56
czrgnomefreak, ah, thought rounes was a word :-)07:56
rickard!vi07:56
uboturickard: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!07:56
rickardhuh?07:56
JDahlboxy, yes. apt-get build -s <package>07:56
gnomefreak!vim07:56
ubotugnomefreak: Do they come in packets of five?07:56
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rickard!vim07:56
gnomefreak!cream07:56
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, gnomefreak07:56
ivoks!vim07:56
gnomefreakrickard, he dont know07:56
lynxoh, I see.  I thought ubuntu cleaned out the temp and cache files auto07:56
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rounegnomefreak, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto07:57
rickardhow do I save a file in vi?07:57
ivokslynx: it does, after reboot07:57
Hendikinsrickard: :w07:57
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czrit might clean /tmp, but not the browser temps07:57
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ivoksczr: right07:57
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boxyJDahl, E: Invalid operation build07:57
rickardHendikins: that just writes ":w" in the text07:57
czralso kde and gnome have their own temps under your home directory for image thumbnails and so forth07:57
lynxok, thanks.  I remember someone said there was a program in ubuntu that worked in the background to keep them clean07:58
Hendikinsrickard: get out of insert mode, then use it.07:58
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rounerickard, : w07:58
rickardHow do I get out if insert mode then?07:58
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boxyrickard, esc07:58
mikonancan i have a bit of help?07:59
czrlynx, that some program might be cron, but cron is used to schedule repeating tasks, so it depends on what the scripts do really.07:59
gnomefreakroune, do you have the windows drivers for your card by chance?07:59
rounegnomefreak, well, i tought that was a later step? :D07:59
boxyJDahl, build isn't a apt-get argument?07:59
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gnomefreakroune, thats an instead of step07:59
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rounegnomefreak, i see.. but, i can get em07:59
mikonanI'm having a problem with my videocard, can someone help?08:00
gnomefreakroune, so you dont have to compile the tar08:00
lynxok I understand now.  I'm still new to using Linux but I'm learning08:00
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rounegnomefreak, okay Oo08:00
boxyczr, yeah ndiswrapper doesn't suppose smp bah thats flameboiant08:00
mika0800Hello, is there any way to force the Ubuntu installation program to load the 3c509 driver for my Etherlink III ISA 3c509B network card?  That would be a big help, because the installer will then make all other network-related configuration automatically. If this module is loaded with modprobe later, then I must do all network configuration manually instead (which I would like to avoid to do)08:00
Ungy_OK I got a stupid question I clicked to have my xmms main window not to show now I can;t see ti at all hwo do I make it apear again?08:00
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alekandrI need someones help urgently08:01
narlesanyone know how to fix sound for VLC?08:01
gnomefreakroune, now follow the instructions for windows drivers remember change /bcmw15.inf for your own file08:01
czrdon't we all :-)08:01
alekandrI cant seem to get java installed for firefox 1.508:01
Ungy_that is urgent08:01
Ungy_the world will end now08:01
alekandroh man08:02
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alekandrshut up ok :] 08:02
alekandrand mind your own innit08:02
alekandrit is important, when i need to load a java based page within the hour08:02
rounegnomefreak, where is the bcmw15.inf stored, and, how do i unzip a .zip file in liniz, gunzip?08:02
gnomefreakalekandr, first they should give you more time java is slower as crap08:02
narlesmy sound won't work on VLC, the output says it cannot find the QDM2 codec.. anyone have a solution?08:02
Ungy_alekandr, google is yoru friend http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=60217208:02
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gnomefreakroune, dont know and yes08:03
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madehello all..08:03
rounegnomefreak, thanks ^^08:03
gnomefreakhi08:03
gnomefreakroune, yw08:03
Ungy_anyone know how I can make xmms appear again?08:03
maderm08:03
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gnomefreakUngy_, typing xmms in term doesnt open it?08:03
Ungy_nope08:04
madeUngy_: did you hide the main window08:04
Brunellushow do I get glxgears to print fps?08:04
sampanungy, have you tried hitting alt-tab ... that cycles through running apps for me08:04
Ungy_made yes ;-(08:04
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alekandrOH MAN, Ungy_ {kiss} for you innit :] 08:04
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alekandrln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /opt/firefox/plugins/08:04
alekandrhow easy was tat08:04
alekandr:|08:04
alekandrthat08:04
maderemove and resinstall unless somebody else has another suggestion08:04
ManifoldWhat's the default font on a Ubuntu install?08:04
runxctryso everybody, i'm having the following apparently common problem upon ubuntu startup08:04
mikonani changed my videocard from a Raedeon 7000 to nVidia fx5200 and X won't recognize the change. How can I make it work?08:04
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runxctryWarning: font renderer for ".pmf" already registered at priority 008:04
runxctryAUDIT: Sun Oct 16 11:53:33 2005: 9573 X: client 6 rejected from local host08:04
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runxctryand i've tried a number of things listed here... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76046&highlight=rejected+local+host08:05
Ungy_made is there a way to get it back or am I screwed ;-( I am stuck with some bad janisw joplin song playing08:05
rickardHow do I get my printer working, now when I don't have windows anymore?08:05
RasymasGuys, can anyone of you help me to make my mouse work on Ubuntu?08:05
Brunellushow do I get glxgears to print fps?08:05
fancyydkHi, I have a question about Linux distros. Are all distros equally customizable?08:05
Ungy_rickard, use cups08:05
rickard!cups08:05
uboturickard: Are you smoking crack?08:05
runxctrybut it's a no-go... do you think it might be worth my time to reinstall ubuntu08:05
rickardUngy_ what is cips?08:06
rickardcups*08:06
madefancyydk: no.. then there is gentoo08:06
Ungy_rickard apt-cache search cups08:06
Ungy_ricakrd sorry sudo apt-cache search cups08:06
superslug120does anyone know what the minimum system requirements are for ubuntu????08:07
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mika0800Rasymas: try this: boot your machine with Knoppix CD (if U have problems, try the older Knoppix 3.7, thai comes with 2.4.27 -kernel). Copy the X11 conf file to your hard disk. Reboot, and overwite ubuntu's X11 conf file with the one made by Knoppix. Before overwriting, U might want to rename the old.08:07
fancyydkhi made, um, how about Ubuntu VS. SuSE? because I tried to use gentoo, and the compiling task takes too long... lol08:07
madeUngy_: you need to remove xmms then reinstall08:07
Ungy_rickard, it stands for common unix printing system08:07
Ungy_made seriously?08:07
CanYouHelpMePlzcan somone help me edit my grub list, i want to remove all the kernels im not using, but i donot know how?08:07
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Ungy_made oh that blows08:07
mikonani changed my videocard from a Raedeon 7000 to nVidia fx5200 and X won't recognize the change. How can I make it work?08:07
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madeUngy_: thats what I had to do08:07
narlesmy sound won't work on VLC, the output says it cannot find the QDM2 codec.. anyone have a solution?08:07
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gnomefreakubotu tell CanYouHelpMePlz about grub08:08
Rasymasthanks mika0800 for your input, but that seems too hard to understand what are you talking about. I think I'll just buy a new mouse08:08
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mika0800I did exactly that on my Debian Sarge, because I could not make the XWINDOW -graphical GUI to work any other way. That worked perfectly !08:09
madefancyydk: I liked SuSe. I like gentoo.. I have been able to set up gentoo to my liking08:09
madeI wasn't able to get SuSe completely to my liking08:09
madethe good thing about gentoo is you will know where everything is once you get started08:09
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CanYouHelpMePlzgnomefreak: that didn't help, can you tell me where the grub list is located?08:10
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Ungy_Rasymas, what is the problem?08:10
rickardI got a network-printer, does that matter?08:10
gnomefreakCanYouHelpMePlz, /boot/grub/menu.lst08:10
superslug120can anyone tell me where to find the system requirements for ubuntu?08:10
Ungy_rickard I print ot my network printer08:10
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: now don't forget to back it up before you mess with it08:10
flogistonis there any other terminal that can be used instead of konsole in yakuake?08:10
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CanYouHelpMePlzmwe: for some reason /boot/grub/menu.lst is blank...08:11
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_feathery_XPEH BAM BCEM B POT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)08:11
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mweCanYouHelpMePlz: well then your system is broken and you can't boot08:11
Myrttigreat08:11
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Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub08:11
mika0800superslug120: I'd like to know that too. More specifically: can I install Ubuntu with text mode console only (NO KDE/Gnome), then install X11 and IceWm manually. Probably a good idea with only 64M or even 128M RAM.08:11
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madehow can I hide the mounted ntfs icons on the desktop without unmounting them?08:12
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Ribsmika0800: You can install ubuntu without any graphical programs.08:12
Ungy_made those aren't mounted those are gnome vfs right08:12
Ribsmika0800: just type 'server' at the CD install prompt08:12
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madevfs?08:12
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fancyydkthank you. I'll try gentoo when I am more familiar with the linux environment.08:13
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meohi ... is there a ubuntu ppc channel available?08:13
Ungy_awesome I love coming to a channel and hearing people tell others to try different distrobutions08:13
madefancyydk: yeah.. you need to try out the easier distros first and get a feel.. then move up08:13
RasymasUngy_ do you see the text I posted you in PM window?08:13
Ungy_Rasymas, nope08:13
mika0800server? Does that install some extra server daemons?  Because I really want a GUI, only I want to use IceWm instead of Gnome or KDE.... IceWm is a good choice for PC's with only a limited amount of RAM.08:13
Rasymasthat's odd08:13
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mesheagreed, i started out with Mandrake 708:14
Ungy_Rasymas, unless your a registered user you cannot private message08:14
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Rasymasoh...08:14
Ungy_Rasymas, and I don't have this name registered08:14
rickardLPR drivers work on Ubuntu?08:14
mhsany1 know how to fix the sound in quake3 under ubuntu ?08:14
Rasymashere's the problem I was talking about08:14
Rasymasthe problem is when I start Linux the mouse pointer doesn't seem to move08:14
Rasymas<Rasymas> it's stuck in the middle of the screen08:14
Rasymas<Rasymas> the mouse is A4 Tech conected via COM108:14
mikonani changed my videocard from a Raedeon 7000 to nVidia fx5200 and X won't recognize the change. How can I make it work?08:14
madecom1.. why08:15
Ungy_Rasymas, your connected via a com port?08:15
madeI have an a4tech.08:15
Rasymasyeah i guess08:15
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boxyhey czr, about my gnome taking like 10 minutes to load i relized i didnt have a entry in /etc/hosts for this comp cause i was on a diff connection for a net install does this look right? http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/OPFoxH85.html (or anyone else feel free to check it)08:15
madekeyboard mouse combo08:15
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Ungy_Rasymas, why you connected via a com port?08:15
fauxmika0800, server is the minimal installation of ubuntu, no extra server deamons. it is just poorly named.08:15
Rasymasthe mouse has that wierd shape at the end of it08:15
czrboxy, depends on what your hostname is08:15
mika0800ok08:15
boxyczr ?08:16
czrboxy, if you have a hostname for which there is no forward record, gnome will take ages08:16
Rasymaslike trianlg, square and inverted triangle08:16
Ungy_Rasymas, weird being it has a bunch of pin hole and is closer to a rectangele then a cirle?08:16
czrboxy, if your host ip is 192.168.0.3 then your hostname should be ubuntu08:16
czrboxy, then it should work. is the hosts that you showed now a new version or original version?08:16
boxyczr, how do i do that then?08:16
sproingieconsidering ubuntu installs stuff like EVMS that really only belongs on a server, the desktop may as well be called server08:16
RasymasI don't know the names of shapes in English :P08:16
madeI love amaroK..08:17
Rasymasmy mouse is very old08:17
Rasymasmade in 200208:17
boxyczr, thats my current hosts file08:17
czrboxy, after you fixed it?08:17
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boxyczr, it was lacking the entry for my comp and its still taking ages to load08:17
boxyczr, then i fixed it* but it's still taking ages*08:17
Ungy_Rasymas, you have a com mouse made in 2002?? holy hell I haven;t seen one of those made since 199708:17
czrboxy, look at the logs then08:17
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Ungy_!reconfiguring x08:18
ubotuNo idea, Ungy_08:18
CanYouHelpMePlzcan somone tell me how to make my SMP kernel the default for grub ?08:18
czrboxy, don't know really. gnome is a pile of evil software anyway :-)08:18
boxyczr sorry for my ignorance, but can you point to the right log?08:18
Rasymasdo you have a MSN? I would draw you how does it look :)08:18
Rasymaslol08:18
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boxyczr lol whats wrong w/ gnome?08:18
czrCanYouHelpMePlz, change the line which reads 'default 0' or similar08:18
Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, is your grub list nolonger blank?08:18
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CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: yes no longer blank08:18
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mika0800I have a logitech mouse purchased 1998 or 1999, and it has default PS/2 connector, but comes with adapter to convert it to a serial port mouse. So 2002 is not that  old !08:18
czrboxy, it's big and big. that's it :-)08:18
czrboxy, /var/log/messages for one08:18
Ungy_then you need to count starting with 0 the lines and choose the proper line for the default08:18
Tedd|How can I extract a .rpm file? I'm trying to install Limewire.08:18
czror /var/log/daemon, forget know which08:18
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MilaNLCan I report a bug? Ubuntu doesn't support fakeraid08:19
sproingieTedd|: alien08:19
Ungy_mika0800, serial yes but a com port mouse?08:19
madeMilaNL: lol08:19
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czrMilaNL, don't try to report bugs here08:19
Tedd|sproingie: I'm afraid I don't understand. alien?08:19
sproingie!tell Tedd| about alien08:19
boxyczr messages is pretty much flooded with these two lines Jan  8 09:47:46 ubuntu kernel: [4295845.153000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).08:19
boxyJan  8 09:47:46 ubuntu kernel: [4295845.153000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.08:19
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: which do i want to use?08:19
MilaNLTedd|: Try alien08:19
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Rasymasin device meanager, windows say this: on Communications Port (COM1)08:19
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mika0800serial=com port (like COM1 is MS-DOS, which is /dev/TTYS0 in linux08:19
Tedd|MilaNL: Is that the only way?08:19
czrboxy, ignore those08:19
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-686-smp root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash ?08:19
MilaNLczr: Sorry, where can I report bugs?08:19
Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, whichever line has the kernel you want to be default08:20
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: and how do i know which # that is08:20
czrMilaNL, hell if I know, ubuntu works for me :--)08:20
czrnot here though08:20
MilaNLTedd|: I Don't know, it's the way i use08:20
boxyhrm08:20
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boxynothing interesting in daemon.log :-/08:20
Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, OK you need to count startign with zero do you see anythign above that?08:20
Rasymasso, guys, any ideas how to make my mouse work on Linux?08:20
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: can i pastebin my list and you tell me?08:20
RasymasUbuntu08:20
madeMalanNl: Application>System Tools> Bug Report Tool08:21
swbanyone use fluxbox?08:21
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: http://pastebin.com/49673308:21
rickardhow do I know if my printer is a cups printer?08:21
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: i want to use the SMP kernel,08:21
Krhisswb, yes.08:21
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Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, ok no look do you see the line ## ## End Default Option ##08:21
KrhisI so.08:21
Krhisdo*08:21
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CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: yea08:22
swbKhisanth, do you know an easy way of getting something to run when fluxbox session starts?08:22
Ungy_well after that count each title08:22
swblike gnome-settings-daemon08:22
jendaCould anyone help me rip a DVD iso image to avi?08:22
narlesif i install the win32 codecs in ubuntu.. will they show up as .dll's in the folder it is extraced to?08:22
swbKhris rather08:22
mika0800I think there is a bug in 2.6 -series kernels causing misindetification of 3COM 3c509 nic cards as 3c905, which is NOT the same, and does not wirk with the same driver.08:22
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: ok so it would be08:22
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: 108:22
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Ungy_starting with 008:22
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Ungy_so first is 0 second is 1 third is 2 and so on08:22
narleswhat default folder does VLC look for win32 codecs???08:22
odathi everyone08:23
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: but it was set at 0, and it was trying to use another one?08:23
odatjenda, drip08:23
mika0800jenda: try suomiknoppix. Should do it out of the box. But that is a hard-tofind thing. MIght find it on ftp.sunet.se ftp-mirror archives08:23
madeTo ALL: I'm outtie.. cyall in a few hours08:23
Krhisswb, should be a ~/.fluxbox/startup script.08:23
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swbI couldnt find one08:23
Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, since you did that reinstall I told you to?08:23
jendaodat: drip segfaults on me...08:23
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: yea08:23
jendamika0800: hmm08:23
swbI thought you put somethingin a .session opr .xsession file somewhere08:24
Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, well since it is set properly I think you shouldn;t tough it at all08:24
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: ## ## End Default Options ##08:24
CanYouHelpMePlztitleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-686-smp08:24
odatjenda, maybe its that modified kernel :)08:24
swbI seem to remember that from running it a few years back08:24
swbbut I cant find it now08:24
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: thats the first one, but it tries to load another one when i boot.08:24
KrhisYou might have a different setup then me.... but I have a list of things that exec in fluxbox.08:24
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jendaodat: Actually, I reinstalled and everything works - it was the 686, but drip is the one thing that does not.08:24
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mika0800Can someone even either confirm or deny that Ubuntu 5.10 comes with 2.6.10 kernel ?08:25
Krhisswb, http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docs/en/faq-dev.php#startup08:25
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: can you just look at this and tell me what # to use for default? http://pastebin.com/49673308:25
Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, restart and tell me that is what is really happening08:25
Khisanthswb: I have used both ~/.Xsession and ~/.fluxbox/startup :)08:25
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: ok08:26
Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, I did look it is set properly08:26
odatjenda, did you try acidrip08:26
odatmika0800, it doesn't come with it   its an option to upgrade to it once ubuntu is installed08:27
swbKhrisanth I have neither a ~/.Xsession or ~/.fluxbox/startup, is it just a matter of creating them?08:27
swbI have a ~/.xsesssion-errors/08:27
swb-/08:27
midwinterit's 2.6.12-9.08:27
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Ungy_what is the process list command again to see wht is running?08:27
cmatheson_swb: you'll have to create them, and it's ~/.xsession not .Xsession08:27
fekps08:27
mika0800does that mean that I first install Ubuntu with 2.4 -series kernel and can the update to 2.6.10 ?08:27
odatgnome rocks!08:27
fekUngy_: ps -aux is that what you want08:28
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fekUngy_: else man ps08:28
ravnis Ububtu a Debian derivative, and also has it got apt?08:28
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Ungy_ravn yes08:28
Krhisswb, did you checkout the FAQ page that I sent you?08:28
rickard!nvidia08:28
ubotufrom memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736808:28
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Seveas!tell ravn about debian08:28
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stephen__Hey Guys... I Think Ubuntu Rocks. I messed up and deleted the home shortcut, how do I make it agian?08:28
Seveasravn, the link ubotu sent you tells more08:28
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swbso when I create .xsession what do I have to put in it? gnome-settings-daemon &08:28
swb?08:28
TranceRiverThis is my second day on ubuntu.08:28
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swbKhris, nah I missed that08:28
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Krhisswb, http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docs/en/faq-dev.php#startup08:28
fauxmika0800, 5.10 has the 2.6.12 kernel08:28
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CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: like i said, it's giving me error 15 file not found, because it's trying to boot a kernel which i uninstalled..08:29
TranceRiverIf it's a little slow with the graphics (I'm running intergrated video card) would a video card help a bunch?08:29
stephen__TranceRiver: Yes08:29
ravnhanx08:29
mika0800faux: from the start? (meaning 2.6.10 can be installed from the installer, when 1st installing ubuntu 5.10 ?)08:29
TranceRiverWhat would be sufficiant?08:29
swbKhris ahh cool, simple08:29
stephen__how much u got ?08:29
mika08002.6.12 ???08:29
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TranceRiver60 bucks or something?08:29
Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, reinstall that kernal then remove it again this time purge it08:29
stephen__lol08:29
stephen__60 bux/08:29
stephen__??08:29
Krhis^^08:30
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: ok how do i do all that?08:30
gnomefreakmika0800, 2.6.12-9 is the default breezy kernel not upgraded08:30
TranceRiverI think I could get a 9200 pro or something.08:30
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Ungy_damn how I kill a process now that I have the process ID08:30
fauxmika0800, 2.6.12 is the only kernek on the install cd08:30
stephen__LOL... 9200 ok. Go and buy X60008:30
TranceRiverI mean, just something better than this intergrated graphics card.08:30
gnomefreak2.6.12-10 is after you update08:30
Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, you know how to install the kernal right?08:30
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: kill pid process id08:30
mika0800Oh no! What version of Ubuntu comes with 2.6.10? (either default or as an update) ?08:30
gnomefreakUngy_, kil <number>08:30
Seveasmika0800, hoary08:30
stephen__ATI X600, Nvidia 620008:30
fauxmika0800, 5.408:30
huhn_2punkt0OK I did a check up of my installation cd, it says me there is a coruption. Before I waste another dvd I want to ask you whether it could be that my download is corrupted. Because I started downloading the files with opera, then my pc crashed and opera download resume sucks. So I started the torrent download and placed the download I had so far in there. Azureus (bit torrent prog) did a check of the file and didn't discover an error. I could08:30
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: i just want to fix my grub list please...08:30
stephen__nvidia FX560008:30
Seveasfaux, that's 5.04 :)08:30
huhn_2punkt0might it be due to that downloading thing that the cd is corrupted?08:30
stephen__hey How I Create my HOME link AgiAN?08:30
Bevinhow can I find which package provides a certain file?08:31
fauxSeveas, ah yes, of course08:31
mika0800is Hoary = 5.04 ??08:31
gnomefreakmika0800, yes08:31
Seveasmika0800, yes08:31
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mika0800And that should come with 2.6.10 ?08:31
stephen__hey How I Create my HOME link AgiAN?08:31
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Seveasmika0800, yes08:31
stephen__opss no repeat sorry08:31
Seveasstephen__, 'home link'?08:31
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beaunewcombI have a serious problem on my hands08:31
stephen__thanks! that easy?08:31
Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, your goign to have to eaitehr reinstall the kernal purge the bad boy and hope it catches it properly or manually build the list08:31
beaunewcomband i'm hoping you guys can help08:31
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: ok how do i build the list?08:31
Seveasstephen__, no, I was wondering what you meant with 'home link'08:32
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stephen__o08:32
stephen__U know on desktop there's the folder u click to go to /home/username08:32
Seveasah08:32
huhn_2punkt0I hate ro repeat myself08:32
stephen__I need 2 create that agian dunno how08:32
Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, unless that smp kernel that is listed as the first option doesn't exist then there shoudln;t be a problem so I am guessing that one doesn't exist08:32
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Seveasstephen__, ln -s ~ ~/Desktop/Home08:32
gnomefreakstephen__, go to places and click home that will put you in your home folder08:32
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: it does exist, i'm using it now08:32
narleswhat default folder does VLC look for win32 codecs???08:33
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stephen__lol no i want on desktop08:33
Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, then how are you geting the error?08:33
mika0800So now I need to download that hoary=5.04 to get Ubuntu with 2.6.10 kernel. Does it have 2.6.10 as default or update ?08:33
stephen__ls -s ~~/Desktop/Home where i put this?08:33
Seveasstephen__, open gconf-editor08:33
stephen__ok08:33
gnomefreaknarles, did you install the codecs yet?08:33
Seveasand go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in that editor08:33
Seveasit should be obvious what to do then :)08:33
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CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: because it tries to load another kernel when it starts, not the smp one, then i select the smp and it works fine08:33
narlesgnomefreak, yes.. they are in /usr/lib/win3208:34
Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, you shoudl see your kernels listed in your boot directory08:34
huhn_2punkt0Could anybody help me? it's less a ubuntu question but more a general pc knowledge question08:34
stephen__umm08:34
Seveashuhn_2punkt0, just ask :)08:34
narlesgnomefreak, they are .dll's and shit in there.. is that right?08:34
Ungy_Can ok where is this phantom kernel that it is trying to load?08:34
huhn_2punkt0OK I did a check up of my installation cd, it says me there is a coruption. Before I waste another dvd I want to ask you whether it could be that my download is corrupted. Because I started downloading the files with opera, then my pc crashed and opera download resume sucks. So I started the torrent download and placed the download I had so far in there. Azureus (bit torrent prog) did a check of the file and didn't discover an error. I could08:34
stephen__Trance cant Talk PRIVATEly sorryz08:34
gnomefreaknarles, dont have them   Seveas the codecs are dlls?08:34
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: i donot know i uninstalled it..08:34
Seveasgnomefreak, w32codecs? yes08:35
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Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, OK when you get your list from grub right down the whole list08:35
gnomefreakoh ok i thought they would have changed in linux08:35
stephen__Yes Video card will help08:35
Seveashuhn_2punkt0, you should verify the md5sum of the iso, ubotu will send you a link08:35
Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, so restart and write down each title you see in order and tell me which on eis highlighted08:35
narlesthats what i might have thoguht08:35
Seveas!tell huhn_2punkt0 about md508:35
stephen__Ah Seveas Help ME!08:35
stephen__I dont know08:35
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash08:35
TranceRiverOkay, sorry stephen__ .08:35
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huhn_2punkt0:)08:36
stephen__no problem08:36
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DelvienDid they break X yet in dapper?08:36
thegladiatorwhen can we expect dapper release for kubuntu ?08:36
gnomefreaknarles, i guess they are still dlls and it should look in the path that you posted before08:36
thegladiatorhows flight 2 ?08:36
Seveasthegladiator, april 2008:36
narlesgnomefreak, VLC should?08:36
gnomefreakthegladiator, buggy08:36
Seveasstephen__, did you open gconf-editor?08:36
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stephen__yes08:36
Seveasdid you find /apps/nautilus/desktop?08:36
stephen__yes08:36
narlesgnomefreak, because i still don't get sound... terminal output says it cannot find the QDM2 codec...08:36
thegladiatorthanks08:36
huhn_2punkt0sev: there's a prob, I run windows atm, so I cant use those gpg progs to check the md508:36
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Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, OK seriously you need to give me the freakign list you see at start up you need to then compare it to the list listed in /boot/grub/menu.list08:36
Seveasstephen__, then enable 'show home icon on desktop'08:37
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: ok.. let me reboot08:37
Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, if they differ you have some serious problems08:37
Seveasstephen__, home_icon_visible that is08:37
bloodis it sapposed to be hard to get wine for ubuntu?08:37
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Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, you may be using a different boot loader08:37
gnomefreakubotu tell blood about wine08:37
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: it's grub..08:37
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: i see it say Grub Loading 1.5 etc08:37
stephen__umm nothing08:37
Ungy_then the lists shoudl be identical08:37
stephen__I deleted the home ICON on desktop08:37
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: brb08:37
stephen__I have to recreate this link08:37
Delvienthegladiator its not too bad, the only problem im having is VMware, and nautilus blowing up every now and then08:37
huhn_2punkt0Seveas08:37
huhn_2punkt0there's a prob, I run windows atm, so I cant use those gpg progs to check the md508:38
stephen__well thanks u08:38
MaxEmtStiProblem! I have Ubuntu with 2lan cards, 1 for internet 1 for other computer running XP. The XP can resolve the address of google.com while pinging but gets no replay. And i cannot open anything from internet with the XP08:38
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thegladiatorDelvien, ah . i run kde so it shud be ven better08:38
Ungy_stephen__, ln -s /home/username /home/username/Desktop?08:38
mika0800where can I download that older Ubuntu: Hoary = 5.04 ?08:38
Seveashuhn_2punkt0, there are windows md5sum tools too08:38
huhn_2punkt0ok08:38
Seveashuhn_2punkt0, google and tucows are your friends :)08:38
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Delvienthegladiator i found KDE very unresponsive and horribly buggy08:38
gnomefreakhuhn_2punkt0,  look on downloads.com they should have a few md5sum tools i cant remember the name of it though08:39
stephen__thanks!08:39
huhn_2punkt0i'll find one, thanks.08:39
Delvienthegladiator gnome>KDE in dapper right now08:39
huhn_2punkt0:)08:39
Ungy_Delvien, flukbox > then all08:39
thegladiatoryes I will switch back to gnome once I get 512 RAM08:39
DelvienUngy_ cept Flux is ugly as hell08:39
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thegladiatorthis RAM has few errors and seg faults problems occur frequently in gnome08:39
stephen__i out08:40
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gnomefreakDelvien, there are only like 7 "boxes"08:40
TranceRiverSo the 6200 nvidia will be a pretty good choice stephen__ ?08:40
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Ungy_Delvien, put a bag over it's head it's still the best ride in town just don;t let your homies see you riding it08:40
Delviengnomefreak hehe i know :P08:40
somerville32I just burned Ubuntu 5.1008:40
DelvienUngy_ lol !!08:40
somerville32And there is two errors in my md5 check08:40
MaxEmtStiany  1 to answer me08:40
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somerville32.\install\pxelinux.cfg\default (doesn't exist)08:41
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B_166-ER-Xi have a "temporary falure in name resolution"08:41
B_166-ER-X at install ubuntu 5.10, whats the command to change resolution in recovery ?08:41
Ungy_MaxEmtSti, you have a crossover cable connected?08:41
somerville32.\install\netboot\pxelinux.0 (sums don't match)08:41
MaxEmtStiUngy_, yes08:41
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CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386  root = /dev/sda1 ro quiet splash08:42
somerville32B_166-ER-X: You usually get that error if you aren't connected to the internet08:42
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Ungy_MaxEmtSti, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370 read this08:42
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B_166-ER-Xsomerville32,  you sure ? i had the feeling that it was gfx related sincethe screen became buggy at install08:43
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MaxEmtStiUngy_, will check.08:43
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Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, that is the complete list of kernals listed ast the grub menu?08:43
B_166-ER-Xsomerville32,  on pppoe is there something to do at install ??08:43
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: no, it has some .9 ones, some smp ones and memtest ones also..08:44
bloodhow can i start to install wine for ubuntu08:44
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Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, did you right them all down and compare it to your /boot/grub/menu.list08:44
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CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: it's the same... it's trying to boot a deleted kernel08:44
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Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, the list is the same?08:45
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: yes08:45
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Ungy_and which line is highlighted first?08:45
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: the one i just wrote08:45
Ungy_which was what line?08:45
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Ungy_numerically counting from top first line being 008:46
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CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: yone sec08:47
eDRoaCHthe debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1) blah blah blah blah08:47
mika0800Hello, is there any way to force the Ubuntu installation program to load the 3c509 driver for my Etherlink III ISA 3c509B network card?  That would be a big help, because the installer will then make all other network-related configuration automatically. If this module is loaded with modprobe later, then I must do all network configuration manually instead (which I would like to avoid to do)08:47
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eDRoaCHive tried for 2 weeks with 2 cd roms, 3 burned cds, 2 video cards, and now a THIRD HD and SECOND ENTIRE COMPUTER08:48
mika0800The question is about the Hoary = 5.04 version of Ubuntu with 2.6.10 kernel08:48
eDRoaCHsame fucking error every time08:48
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CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: ## ## End Default Options ## do i count from there?08:48
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eDRoaCHi hear this is a great os for multilingual, but its not an os at all if it wont install08:49
eDRoaCHany1 feel like telling me wth is going on?08:49
Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, first title after that is 0  then I also need you to tell me what number it is when the grub menu appears that is highlighted08:49
B_166-ER-Xwhat is the command to change manually the resolution (byterminal)08:49
HendikinseDRoaCH: After that little outburst, I'm keeping my paws off it.08:49
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: anyway i can just get grub to re-write the list?08:50
eDRoaCHalright08:50
eDRoaCHback to fedora it is08:50
eDRoaCHthat os installs08:50
HendikinsFlies, honey, vinegar.08:50
ajmitch_plenty of vinegar there08:51
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HendikinsExactly.08:51
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gnomefreakhe has a bad iso lol08:51
gnomefreakoh well08:51
damian_yucky fedora08:51
narlesi cannot get sound with VLC.. output shows08:51
narles[00000290]  main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `QDM2'.08:51
narlesVLC probably does not support this sound or video format.08:51
mika0800btw: is there any way to check in advance, what kernel version comes with each distro? Or is the only way either to install a distro and run uname -a or ask someone with that distro installed ?08:51
CanYouHelpMePlzcan anyone help me with http://pastebin.com/496457 grub is trying to boot a kernel i deleted?08:51
gnomefreakdamian_, agreed08:51
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HendikinsI'm happy to help people when: a. They're polite, b. They've tried to help themselves, c. I'm able to. If any or all of the above are untrue, I'm not happy to help.08:52
gnomefreakmika0800, what distro do you want to know?08:52
Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, is the kernel you deleted listed on the menu.list?08:52
midwintermika0800, google?08:52
narlesi installed gst-ffmpeg-0.8.7.. but still no luck08:52
fauxmika0800, distrowatch has listings of software in different distributions08:52
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: not under end of default options no.08:52
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Hendikinsand I'm sure plenty of people in here will cringe at the thought of SuSE too08:52
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mika0800So there is not a central place to look in. I read the history about DistroWatch, and they had it, but I think not any more...08:52
Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, your screwed man dunno what the hell you did08:52
gnomefreaklol Hendikins its slow yum doesnt compare with apt other than that not really all that bad08:52
tolstoymy wireless (ipw2200) seems to get a DHCP ip address, but somehow doesn't work.  (no errors in ifconfig, etc, etc).  would an upgrade to dapper have a better chance of working?08:53
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: i don't think so08:53
gnomefreakmika0800, what distro do you want to know about?08:53
Hendikinsgnomefreak: I had no end of trouble with FC1/2/3, on reliable not-cheap hardware08:53
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CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: here is my grub http://pastebin.com/49677608:53
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gnomefreakHendikins, 2/3 gave me issues 4 really didnt well not htat many08:53
Hendikinsgnomefreak: once bitten...08:54
gnomefreak:) i know the feeling08:54
MaxEmtStiUngy_, im Stole_mKd on that forum, can u see what my problem is there, please?08:54
damian_tolstoy: are you using network manager by any chance?08:54
Hendikinstwice bitten, three times bitten...08:54
Hendikins(same goes for Mandrake/Mandriva)08:54
CanYouHelpMePlzcan somone PLEASE tell me what the problem with http://pastebin.com/496776 is, grub tries to load a kernel i deleted.08:54
tolstoydamian_: yes08:54
damian_hmmm08:54
gnomefreakHendikins, screw mandriva updates kept over writing grub08:55
mika0800I think I will test Ubuntu 5.04 for now. I am looking for any distro with 2.6.10 kernel, no older and no newer.08:55
damian_I might have the same problem as you.08:55
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damian_that dhcp address...does it belong to a wired network?08:55
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gnomefreakmika0800, go with ubuntu 5.1008:55
Nivko|Linuxhi08:55
Ungy_CanYouHelpMePlz, ok put a # in front of the hiddenmenu and reboot and give me what is listed when it tells you to select a kernel08:55
tolstoydamian_: it's on an hp nw8240.  very frustrating.08:55
Nivko|Linuxi have a question08:55
Nivko|Linuxi have 2 pcs08:55
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: ok.08:55
Nivko|Linuxa linux pc en a windows08:55
damian_cause I get a dhcp address that is totally bogus08:55
mika0800gnomefreak: and how can that be used with 2.6.10 kernel ?08:55
gnomefreakits got a 2.6.12 kernel08:55
tolstoydamian_: yeah, it think so.  my wireless ap is connected to a wired router.  has always worked before.08:55
Nivko|Linuxnetworking from windows to linux08:55
Nivko|Linuxi get a login screen08:55
Hendikinsgnomefreak: I dropped Mandrake after the horrid 8.x series.08:55
damian_and it belongs to the "wired network" even though there is no cable.08:55
gnomefreakmika0800, how mandatory is it you run a 2.6.10 kernel?08:56
Nivko|Linuxby user i type my account name from linux08:56
damian_oh hmm08:56
Nivko|Linuxen by password my password08:56
Nivko|Linuxit isn't working..08:56
tolstoydamian_: i even set my router to grant an IP based on the mac address, and that actually happens.08:56
gnomefreakHendikins, they didnt get much better08:56
tolstoydamian_: not that it solved anything.08:56
Pr0ph3they guyz08:56
TranceRiverHm, http://www.isellsurplus.com/product.asp?id=9330&c=7&s=54 that's the computer I am running Ubuntu on.  What does it mean when it says AGP NLX?08:56
damian_is the ip you get from dhcp totally off from your network?08:56
Hendikinsgnomefreak: Well aware of it. At least SuSE hasn't given me headaches.08:56
gnomefreaki guess im kind of confused at what a 2.6.10 can give you that 2.6.12 cant08:56
Pr0ph3tto fix my mbr, boot, what I have to do ?08:56
TranceRiverI't's a little slow with dragging and such.08:56
tolstoydamian_: compiling the latest drivers from scratch didn't work, and it's not easy.  requires you to comment out kernel header lines, etc.  not too portable.08:57
TranceRiverI'm going to try to get a graphics card, can anyone point me in the right direction?08:57
mika0800very. Older than that may not support things like USB-IrDA -adapters (like Actisys IR-4000U or xtech's cheap one). And newer than 2.6.10 will break Borland Kylix IDE's integrated debugger. So no choice here.08:57
tolstoydamian_: no, it's a valid ip.08:57
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damian_oh08:57
Nivkohi08:57
damian_but it just doesn't work?08:57
Nivkocan somone help me with my problem?08:57
Ungy_MaxEmtSti, I have never done it personally so I am not a good person to ask08:57
gnomefreakmika0800, 2.6.12 should support 2.6.10 drivers08:57
tolstoydamian_: right.  I even sent pings, things bling, but it says the host is unreachable.08:57
damian_did you try connecting with gnome's network interface?08:58
tolstoydamian_: I even checked route -n.  looks good.  looks just like my working laptop.08:58
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damian_it could be a network manager issue.08:58
tolstoydamian_: yes.  still no go.08:58
MaxEmtStiUngy_, thx anyway08:58
NivkoCan somone help me with my problem: I have a windows and linux pc if i networking from the windows one to the linux i get a login screen i fill in the account info and i press enter but it isn't working..08:58
damian_bummer.08:58
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tolstoydamian_: I can't even get the ndiswrapper stuff to work either: dll.HAL symbol unknown, or something like that.08:58
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TranceRiverI cannot figure out what NLX means.08:58
mika0800The first thing I want to do is confirm that Kylix IDE and it's integrated debugger indeed run with no problems eith 2.6.10 kernel. If so, that's a good kernel for me. I am currently running Debi9an sarge with 2.4.27.08:58
damian_why do you need ndiswrapper?08:58
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damian_if you have ipw220008:59
Pygifreaky: ping08:59
Nivkocan somone help me?08:59
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Nivko..08:59
tolstoydamian_: because I'm at a total loss and will try anything. ;)08:59
tolstoydamian_: thinking of trying dapper.  if that doesn't work, then fc4.08:59
NivkoCan somone help me with my problem: I have a windows and linux pc if i networking from the windows one to the linux i get a login screen i fill in the account info and i press enter but it isn't working..08:59
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damian_oh ok, but it won't work with ndiswrapper I dont think.09:00
NivkoCan somone help me with my problem: I have a windows and linux pc if i networking from the windows one to the linux i get a login screen i fill in the account info and i press enter but it isn't working..09:00
Pygitolstoy: no, not dapper just yet :/09:00
Eleafhi09:00
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PygiNivko: WAIT09:00
tolstoydamian_: right.09:00
Pygi!patience09:00
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.09:00
Nivkook..09:00
mika0800Nivko: first thing to chech: if U have a software firewall on the Windows system, check that it is not blocking your LAN networking09:00
tolstoyPygi: why not?  something particularly broken?09:00
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Nivkonope it isnt blocking09:00
Nivkoiam net working with 2 other pcs...09:00
Pygitolstoy: well the packages are mostly broken....09:00
Nivko(windows pc's)09:01
Pygitolstoy: and some other things as well09:01
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Pygitolstoy: but if you know what you are doing, you *could* fix it09:01
tolstoyPygi: alas!  normally i would think it's too early for dapper for me, but, shit.  I'm desperate!  I wants me wireless! ;)09:01
Nivkoso can somone help me?09:01
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Pygitolstoy: huh, what seems to be the issue with wireless?09:02
mika0800the other thing is checking that samba is correctly configured. If your windows is win98, U have only 1 choice about samba username. Win2000 and later gives U the option "login with another userid" or something like that09:02
NivkoWinxp09:02
Nivkoi have09:02
CanYouHelpMePlzUngy_: i fixed it my self, thanks for the help09:02
beaunewcombI have a 120gb HD split into 3 partitions.... 1st swap, second linux, 3rd personal files, documents, pictures, etc.  I installed Ubuntu a month ago to the 2nd partition. this morning I reinstalled windows XP and deleted the first two partitions and created 1 new one before my personal files partition.  I installed XP on the first partition.  I get into XP and now I can't see the second partition in My Computer.  Disk Managemen09:02
Pygi!enter09:02
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!09:02
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NivkoI have WinXP*09:03
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gnomefreakNivko, im sorry to hear that09:03
CanYouHelpMePlzNivko: likewise09:03
mikulharriet blir aldrig sur09:03
tolstoyPygi: the driver loads, i get an IP from the AP, and when I ping, there are no errors via ifconfig.  however, "host unreachable" no matter what command I run.  so, "host google.com" takes a long time, then "host unreachable".  Maybe a time out or something?09:03
CanYouHelpMePlzhow do i get programs to auto start with ubuntu again, i forget?09:03
gnomefreaki have it somewhere too  i think under all my linux cds :)09:04
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__null__CanYouHelpMePlz, add them in gnome-session09:04
Pygitolstoy: wrong DNS setting09:04
beaunewcombWe won't start a linux vs xp war here... I still run linux on another box09:04
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mika0800beaunewcomb: a good advice: if U have windows/linux dual(or triple) boot, install GRUB in the linux /boot -partition, NOT into MBR. Only if Linux is the only operating system in a PC, then install GRUB into MBR09:04
beaunewcombi really need help getting access to this partition09:04
tolstoyPygi: but it's the same setting as my other laptop, and if I ping an IP address, I get the same thing.09:04
CanYouHelpMePlz__null__: an wheres that at?09:04
Nivkoif somone have a other reason why it isn't working please mail me at niels@nivko.nl09:04
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Nivkoi must go now09:04
Nivkobye09:04
Pygignomefreak: lol, you should see the CVS of Firefox :DDDD09:04
__null__can-o-worms, system -> preferences -> session09:04
gnomefreakmika0800, i have grub on my mbr with win2k and ubuntu09:05
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Pygitolstoy: and it works on laptop?09:05
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beaunewcombNo, i want to access this partition from within windows09:05
CanYouHelpMePlz__null__: got it thanks09:05
garycwhat is the website for pasting09:05
beaunewcombno, i NEED to access this partition from within windows. :)09:05
tolstoyPygi: my other laptop works fine.  network-manager has it all figured out.09:05
gnomefreakmost people put grub on mbr09:05
Falstiusbeaunewcomb: install ext3fs drivers for windows ...09:05
tolstoyPygi: my other laptop uses some sort of orinoco driver I have to compile myself when the kernel updates, but it works.09:05
mika0800gnomefreak. yes, if U do it in a particular order, it will work. But what happens if U need to reinstall Win2k ?09:05
beaunewcomb!ext3fs drivers09:06
ubotubeaunewcomb: No idea09:06
Pygitolstoy: well, have you done this at this one as well?09:06
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Pygifreaky: try firefox 1.6a1 :DD09:06
gnomefreakmika0800, depends in win2k on my first hard drive or sencond?09:06
gnomefreakPygi, for linux?09:06
Pygifreaky: yup09:06
gnomefreakPygi, does it work?09:07
tolstoyPygi: I tried it, but it didn't work.  I might try it again, but, oy.  It's QUITE a process, and the various make installs don't put things in the right place.  I'd hate to have to do that every time a new kernel update comes down from ubuntu.09:07
Pygifreaky: yes, ofcourse :)))09:07
Pygitolstoy: huh, true :/09:07
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mika0800most installers default to putting grub in MBR. And, if linux is the only operating system, then MBR is the right choice. But on dualboot systems I  would put it in /boot -partition of linux. I have done this on several PC's and no problem so far. And I am then free to reinstall either windows or linux if I want to.09:07
Pygiand your other laptop uses what distro?09:07
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tolstoyPygi: so I was hoping that, somehow, dapper would be a bit more mature in this respect.  but if it's too broken even for hackwork, then, eh.09:07
gnomefreakPygi, lol ill try it on win first i dont care if i break that :))09:07
tolstoyPygi: breezy.09:07
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Pygitolstoy: well, you can use dapper if you want....but expect problems09:08
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garyccan someone help me with this opera problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/681609:08
Pygigaryc: #opera09:08
bloodlessi've downloaded hsfmodem_7.18.00.07full_k2.6.12_9_386_ubuntu_i386.deb.zip09:08
tolstoyPygi: yeah.  i might try it before wiping and trying fedora, just to see if there's some subtle difference.09:08
CanYouHelpMePlz09:08
bloodlesshow can i install my modem drivers?09:08
mika0800Oh, and I hate installers which try not to give me the choice... like if they knew better than me where to put the GRUB...09:08
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Pygitolstoy: huh, not fedora :/ rather if you know what you are doing try it on slackware09:09
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tolstoyPygi: why slackware (and do they have a one CD install?)09:09
TranceRiverDo you think a NLX AGP card 16mb would be better than a PCI 16mb card?09:10
TranceRiverAnyone, that is*09:10
derek_djonsHi... can anyone help me with a small problem? I'm able to access the network folder and browse to the files on a other computer (samba). But I can't drag the songs into banshee on this pc. How can I add them otherwise?09:10
Pygitolstoy: yup, and because on slackware I can help you whatever you want :)09:10
holotoneMy laptop has a HDD with two NTFS partitions, one 14GB, one 40GB for storage. I want to turn this XP machine into a dualboot w/ Ubuntu. Would it be safe to just back up the first (14GB partition), wipe it, and do the dual boot install, and not worry about backing up the data partition?09:10
Pygi!patience09:10
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.09:10
garycif there is anyone on here that can help me, i will gladly go to another window09:10
Pygianyone out here testing ff1.6a1?09:10
tolstoyPygi: hm. four cds.  I wonder if they have a DVD install.09:10
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bloodlesslet me know how to install modem drivers in ubuntu09:11
gnomefreaki will be for win shortly :)09:11
Falstiusholotone, probably but there's no guarantee.  Especially if you're inexperienced.09:11
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bloodlessi just move from suse to ubuntu09:11
Ungy_derek_djons, do a true mount09:11
holotoneCrap.09:11
holotoneOk, then.09:11
Nekomageshaving some issues trying to plug my laptop into the tv via the svid port, mainly just nothings showing up on the tv09:11
Pygitolstoy: you can use just 1-st one09:11
Pygignomefreak: it works on linux, don't worry "{09:11
bloodlesshow can i install .deb file09:12
Pygi:P09:12
bloodless?09:12
tolstoyPygi: okay.  well, this will take most of today.  thanks.09:12
beaunewcombwho can point me in the right direction to download the ext3fs file system drivers for windows XP?09:12
Ungy_holotone, yes I did somethign similar but I know what I am doign ;-)09:12
Pygisudo dpkg -i  package.deb09:12
holotoneHow about reccomendations for how I should partition this drive if it was wiped clean? It's 60GB, and I want XP and Ubuntu dualbooted. What size should I make each partition, and what filesystems?09:12
garycwhere can i find the config file with LD_PRELOAD09:12
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TranceRiverHas anyone heard of NLX AGP?09:12
bloodlessOk09:12
mika0800U might try sysinternals.com for linux fs drivers for Windows. But no guarantees!09:12
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butcherbirdholotone: if u want to write to you xp partitiion in ubuntu i would install xp as fat32 not ntfs09:13
Falstiusholotone, I've been using an ext3fs driver in windows xp very succesfully.09:13
Pygiaway09:13
Ungy_holotone, ok if you want the files accessible on the data drive from bth machines you ned to make that fat3209:13
holotonean ext3fs driver would allow win* to write to the linux partition, right?09:13
Falstiusso I have my /home partition in linux ext3 and mount it in both, the windows partition ntfs and the linux reiserfs.09:13
midwinterholotone, yeah.09:13
Zubzubhow do I open my terminal, it doesn't show at the "start" menu09:13
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Ungy_midwinter, you can mount ext3fs from winnt?09:14
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mika0800Falstius: where did U get extfs drivers for windows? sysinternals? Or somewhere else ???09:14
bloodlessi install ubuntu 5.10 30 mins ago but now on xp09:14
B_166-ER-Xis there a reason for a video bug, in the install of ubuntu ? video cart nvidia 6600 Gt , at install / first boot, the screen become are ***'up09:14
Falstiusmika0800: I'm afraid I don't remember.  I found them while playing with BartPE.09:14
holotoneSo, maybe the Win OS partition as NTFS, and a data drive as FAT32?09:14
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Rasymasguys, it's me again09:15
derek_djonsUngy_, thnx... I'll have a try09:15
midwinterUngy_: yes - http://www.fs-driver.org/ (there's a few others, I don't use this one)09:15
bloodlessi try to play audio file, but it gives me a error some thing cannot stream09:15
bloodCan i play a game from windows drive while running linux?09:15
Zubzubhow do I open my terminal, it doesn't show at the "start" menu as said in the documentation09:15
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Mr_Molezis there a program on ubuntu to configure network ?09:15
holotoneWould that make sense? That way I could access all the data, since it's on a FAT drive, but all the WinOS apps and shit are on an NTFS partition for stability..09:15
ubuntu_Zubzub, applications - accessories - terminal09:15
RasymasAnyone wants to tell me how to make my mouse work :) The problem is that it's not moving09:15
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Zubzubyes I know, but it doesn't show09:16
beaunewcombmika I found it09:16
Falstiusholotone: that's a common way to do things.09:16
bloodlessyou might have serial mouse09:16
Falstiusbut you can't install linux on fat32.09:16
holotoneok, cool.09:16
bloodCan i play a game from windows drive while running linux? (wine)?09:16
Rasymasmaybe, any solutions?09:16
Mr_MolezRasymas: You may need to add it to xorg config09:16
mika0800Just wondering: if I want to burn a DVD-R on Win98, and do it from a 4,7 GB image file... should I: a) install ext3fs drivers for windows and use a local HD or b) burn from a network drive ( 100 Mbps ethernet, linux samba server )09:16
Zubzubis there some kind of shortcut key combination to acces the terminal?09:16
holotoneSure, what I mean is: WinOS=NTFS, UbuntuOS=Whatever Linux uses as a FS, and data partition=FAT3209:16
garycwhere is the config file with LD_PRELOAD09:16
woodgraini'm trying to install a new pkg -- but synaptic thinks something else I want to keep is broken and is trying to remove it!09:16
bloodlessblod, i'm not sure but you can try because i try only one time its work09:16
RasymasMr_Molez, how to access that one?09:17
MaxEmtStihow about to share a internet connection through a Proxy server. I have linux Pc connected to internet and XP connected to the linux,whic program to use?09:17
garycwhere is the config file with LD_PRELOAD and OPERA_FORCE_JAVA_ENABLED09:17
Mr_MolezRasymas: what type of mouse is it ?09:17
woodgrainhow do I keep this 'broken' package?09:17
mika0800Rasymas, boot your PC with a Knoppix CD... dows your mouse work then?09:17
garycwhere is the config file with LD_PRELOAD and OPERA_FORCE_JAVA_ENABLED ????????????????09:17
Seveasgaryc: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.09:17
bloodso how would i go about finding my c: from linux?09:17
robotgeekgaryc: we heard you the first time09:17
Mr_Molezwoodgrain: got it working. had to upgrade to dapper :)09:17
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woodgrainMr_Molez,  good!09:18
Zubzububuntu_, is there a key combination to acces the terminal?09:18
bloodso how would i go about finding my c: (window drive) from linux?09:18
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bloodlesshow can i make a dialup connection establish09:18
woodgrainsynaptic thinks a pkg is broken that's not --> how do I overide 'remove' in synaptic?09:18
MaxEmtStiany 1 to answer09:18
garycim sure people know where the location of LD_PRELOAD because its a very important part of linux and they are unwilling to help09:18
mika0800blood: try this (as superuser): fdisk -l /dev/hda09:18
Seveas!tell blood about windowsdrives09:18
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Mr_Molezblood: is it in /media or /mnt ? or /windows ?09:18
butcherbirdbood 'sudo fdisk -l' will show paritions09:18
woodgrain!dapper09:18
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.09:19
mika0800and then, use mount (and possibly edit /etc/fstab )09:19
Seveasmika0800, there are tools that make that unneccessary :)09:19
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garycthis is a place to show off to your friends, not a place to help others09:19
ubuntu_i have no idea, im a newbie, you can probably get the icon back in the menu by using that add applications feature though09:19
bloodi want wow to run using wine09:19
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gnomefreakubuntu_ use menu editer in system tools09:20
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bloodlesshow to create a dialup connnection on Ubuntu09:20
bloodi want to know if i can run in through the swap? or how to do that09:20
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mika0800do those tools work on on Ubuntu? Tried that with RedHat, and I was very disappointed about that !09:20
holotoneblood: from my limited experience, WoW MIGHT work, but it's gonna suck. Wine is an emulator, and as such takes quite a bit more processor power to run.09:20
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Mr_Molezis there a program on ubuntu to configure the network ???09:20
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braniffhow do i connect to windows xp shares that are part of a *workgroup* and not a domain in breezy ??09:20
gnomefreakMr_Molez, yes look under networking?09:20
SeveasMr_Milenko, ifconfig :)09:21
bloodi have a 3.2 pent 409:21
bloodlesslet me know, if any body can help me out.09:21
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gnomefreakbloodless,  smae place09:21
gnomefreaksame*09:21
bloodlessaight!09:21
Mr_Molezgnomefreak: i need a program that doesnt need gnome or kde..09:21
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mika0800I tried to play Windows Space Cadet with Wine. The game starts, but is next to unusable. Fonts are screwed, no sound, and the ball moves very in a very jumpy way...09:21
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woodgrainI can't unmark in synaptic -- synaptic is trying to remove 'broken' pkg but I can stop it!!!09:21
gnomefreakMr_Molez, than as Seveas  said ifconfig09:21
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Mr_Molezaww i was hoping i would not have to do ifconfig :(( ok thanks09:22
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bloodlesssome body told me a command, its correct ... sudo dpkg -i modemconxant.deb09:22
bloodless?09:22
TranceRiverHmm...., so no one knows what AGP NLX is?09:23
bloodso my drive is 'dev/sda1' how do i search it09:23
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gnomefreakthat command looks like it will install that .deb but i dont know what that deb is09:23
bunglehow can i upgrade to firefox 1.5?09:23
gnomefreak!ff1.509:23
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion09:23
bloodlessthis is the deb file name hsfmodem_7.18.00.07full_k2.6.12_9_386_ubuntu_i386.deb09:24
rickardHow do I play divx movies in ubuntu?09:24
bloodwith vlc09:24
bloodif u can work it09:24
mika0800blood: mount it as /mnt/usbstick1 (create that dir 1st). then use mc to search. (warning: if it is a big disk device and the PC has little RAM, U might run into problems...)09:24
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thegladiatorrickard, see restricted formats09:24
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gnomefreakbloodless, tha command with that deb there should install that deb but if you have to configure it after that is beyond me09:24
thegladiator!restrictedformats09:25
ubotuwell, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats09:25
rickardis there any program in sunaptic that can play divx?09:25
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MaxEmtStiwhat program to use as a proxy server that runs (or has) support for both Linux and XP09:25
bloodlessOk09:25
gnomefreakrickard, see above post by ubotu09:25
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bloodhow do i mount in the terminal?09:25
gnomefreak!mount09:25
ubotumethinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f09:25
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jawshoewahwhen setting up evolution does password enter next to mailnameacount@blah.net?09:26
bloodsweet09:26
powderfinger!help09:26
mika0800try for ex. mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbstick1 ...09:26
bloodsudo?09:26
mika0800add -t auto option right after mount if that does not work09:27
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mika0800yes, in Ubuntu U need sudo....09:28
ZarathustraDKAnyone know of THE ati-driver-installation-guide-and-troubleshooting-blablabla? I've spend the whole day trying to figure it out...09:28
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jawshoewahnevermind I got it09:28
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Seveas!ati09:29
ubotuati is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1009:29
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ZarathustraDKtried it, didn't work...09:29
braniffhow do i connect to a windows xp share from breezy ?09:30
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shinobi319hey, i just installed ubuntu on one of my computers and i want to wipe the drive and install windows xp...but when the xp setup loads it says no hard drive is found. what can i do?09:31
TranceRiverWhen I'm in terminal, I type in a command and then it asks for password and when I try to enter it, my keyboard will not work.09:31
butcherbirdbraniff: search for samba at wiki.ubuntu.com sorry dont know exact link09:31
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braniffok09:31
yatesyTranceRiver: sure? remember unix does not echo passwords to you09:31
wbthere is no * echo when you enter pwd09:31
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butcherbirdbraniff: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently09:32
TranceRiver'echo passwords'?09:32
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woodgrainhow do I unzip a tar.bz2?09:33
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shinobi319does anyone know how to wipe a hard drive with ubuntu on it so i can install windows xp?09:33
freak_tar command09:33
wbtar xfvj xyz.tar.bz209:33
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thegladiatorshinobi319: just format it using windows format . caution : do it at ur own risk09:34
freak_shinobi319, WinXP can reformat and repartition09:34
gnomefreakshinobi319, the xp cd will do it for you09:34
boxyCan someone post their sources.list? mine got screwed up when i updated my kernel and i need to fix that so i can install my nvidia drivers09:34
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gnomefreakive been using tar xvfz foo.tar.gz :(09:34
freak_anyone in here experienced with fluxbox?09:34
woodgrainwb, how come no '-' before the xfvj?09:34
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gnomefreak!compile09:35
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware09:35
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tolstoyPygi: when you say dapper has broken packages, how broken is it?  broken for a newbie plain old user?  or broken as in you can't log in and work around things via, say, the command line?09:35
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RogerioBuenas09:35
shinobi319when i try to install Windows XP it says that no hard drive was found...i tried it 3 times and it always says the same thing09:35
gnomefreaktolstoy, not for newbie09:35
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gnomefreaktolstoy, install dapper if you dont mind losing everything on that hard drive09:36
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thegladiatorshinobi319: format ? didnt work ?09:36
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powderfingershinobi Why are you here?09:36
gnomefreakshinobi319, did you delete the partions?09:36
thegladiatorshinobi319: get into DOS prompt and format it and then you can ...09:36
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thegladiatorpowderfinger: he is using ubuntu atm09:36
tolstoygnomefreak: hah!  i've run the devel trees before, but usually only a month or so before release.  never lost a drive.  wow.  lot o things changing, eh?09:37
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shinobi319alright ill try that09:37
shinobi319thanks09:37
gnomefreaktolstoy, its not in beta form yet09:37
psusishinobi319, if windows says no hard drives found, then it can't see your hardware09:37
gnomefreakits in alpha09:37
mika0800linux fdisk or cfdisk will enable U to delete all pertitions if that is what U really want...09:37
tolstoygnomefreak: okay.09:37
shinobi319i know but i already have ubuntu installed on it09:37
psusishinobi319, so?  what's that got to do with windows?09:37
shinobi319i know the hard drive works, but now windows setup cant see it09:37
Thorioloi have a noname NIC with a RealTek 8139 chip on it that works fine normally, but for some reason i just cant get the network up and running in ubuntu, anyone have any ideas?09:38
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psusishinobi319, do you have any kind of special drives?  or just plain ide?09:38
freak_if you're getting rid of ubuntu you're a traitor shinobi09:38
MonsieurBonhello09:38
gnomefreakspecial drives? like sata?09:38
psusishinobi319, windows should see the drive and just show there are unknown partitions on it... if not, it doesn't work with your hardware09:38
boxygnomefreak would you mind posting your sources.list on nopaste please?09:38
shinobi319yea its sata09:38
psusignomefreak, or sata (fake)raid09:38
butcherbird!easysources09:38
MonsieurBondoes anybody know about musicbrianz? Is there an alternative to amarok, where I don't have to install kde?09:38
ubotubutcherbird: Are you smoking crack?09:38
gnomefreakboxy, first why 2nd what is nopaste09:38
mika0800how about dd'ing from /dev/zero to /dev/hda into MBR 512 bytes of zeros. That will appear to WinXP's installer as a HD in a factory condition (no data)09:38
butcherbirdeh?09:38
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shinobi319i would definately use ubuntu if i understood it09:39
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freak_RAID is useless unless you run a server09:39
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shinobi319i have no one to teach me and ive spent hours trying to install the wireless card09:39
lucasvofreak_: no it isn't09:39
psusishinobi319, then it sounds like windows doens't have a driver that can talk to your hardware... you'll have to find a windows driver disk09:39
zarbelHello09:39
boxycause mine is goofed up and i need to install my nvidia drivers cause i dont have the right repos and nopaste is a website for pasting like code and text etc google nopaste it'll be the first link09:39
gnomefreakubotu tell boxy about easysource09:39
freak_lucasvo, it is if its just a home PC or a gaming PC09:39
boxygnome im in the console ;P09:39
psusimika0800, from the sound of it, window doesn't see the drive at all... what partitions are on it doesn't matter09:39
TranceRiverWhen I put ' sudo apt-get install libstdc++5' into terminal, it asks for a password.  I try giving it a password, but it doesn't do anything.09:39
trkoreckyIf I would set my Windows machine to dual-boot with Ubuntu, then later decide to remove Linux, how does one go about removing the boot loader?  Is the process easy?09:39
TranceRiverIt doesn't accept my key inputs.09:40
boxyill try it in links though09:40
psusifreak_, most definately not... I run a raid0 for speed09:40
psusispeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed!09:40
gnomefreakah ok hold on let me see if i can find this09:40
shinobi319all of the cds that came with the hardware dont have linux drivers on them and i dont understand the "makefile" kernel process09:40
thegladiatorcan someone suggest a nice font ?09:40
lucasvofreak_: RAID1 is quite reasonable09:40
lucasvono need to daily backup09:40
thegladiatorlegible and good looking09:40
lostbluri have a LAN set up with 2 pcs and a NAS, the Ubuntu pc is able to see the NAS and the WINXP laptop just fine. i have set up one of the mounted HDs to be a SHared folder in Ubuntu, but the winxp laptop does not see it, what could be the problem?09:40
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bloodis there a way i can have the adress of the folder im in to copy/paste the (adress bar in windows)09:40
psusito give you some idea of what kind of speed.... my system takes 20 seconds to boot to desktop login09:40
freak_well, if i lose a hard drive, i'll just buy a new one and beat my games over again09:40
pinkisntwellwhat is the daemon that checks the repos and notifies you of any updates?09:41
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lostblurblood: CTRL +L09:41
Ungy_blood you mean copy from destop to remote desktop?09:41
mika0800trkorecky: if U do as I adviced and install GRUB into the /boot -partition and NOT into the MBR, deleting linux is auper-easy: just run Windows's FDISK and set the active partition to C:09:41
boxythanks gnomefreak ill give this a try09:41
psusilucasvo, raid1 only protects from hard drive failure, not deleting or overwriting important data ;)09:41
freak_anyone here have experience with FluxBox on Ubuntu???09:41
lostbluris that what you meant?09:41
jeananyone got sound working for powerpoint presentations in openoffice impress09:41
lucasvopsusi: yeah, but as i said less need to backup09:41
zarbelHello i'm searching for french people :) i've just install ubuntu...09:41
midwinter!fr09:42
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais09:42
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jeanis power point .ppt supposed to have sound included?09:42
psusilucasvo, for a server that needs to stay up, raid1 is good... for soho or home use, I'd go with rsync snapshot backups to the second drive... provides protection against messing up files09:42
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boxygnomefreak do you know what i need to add to my sources.list so i can apt-get nvidia-kernel?09:42
freak_so no fluxbox users in here? i feel so alone :(09:42
trkoreckymika0800: I already have Windows installed.  If I would make a new partition and install Ubuntu there, all I need to do is install the boot loader into /boot and everything should work?  And to remove, I just delete the Linux partitions and extend my Windows one?09:42
gnomefreakhold on i have mine pasted09:42
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jeantrkorecky: yes but windows must be removed completely09:43
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trkoreckypsusi: Raid 0+1 for servers has speed and backup capabilities09:43
trkoreckyjean: Why must I remove Windows?09:43
mika0800yes. And of course, set the active partition to be linux's /boot when installing linux. Set it back to C: when deleting linux09:43
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psusitrkorecky, raid5 is better imho... more usable space09:43
jeantrkorecky: just a joke09:43
jean:>09:43
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psusitrkorecky, and faster09:43
CentHOGGhi, anybody here do wireless ubuntu ppc?09:43
topyliwhere can i find an example devilspie config file?09:44
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mika0800Partition Magic is a good tool to have. But if U don't, U might try Linux's QtParted.. .maybe it works 4 U... I did not get it to work properly (using Knoppix from CD)09:44
trkoreckymika0800: What do I use to set as the active partition?  FDISK in a DOS prompt from a boot disc?09:44
freak_CentHOGG, wireless in linux is sketchy, you're better off going wired09:44
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gnomefreakboxy, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ynHn3j60.html09:44
boxythanks gnome09:44
gnomefreakyw09:44
jawshoewahwhat folder are system fonts storedin ?09:45
jeandoes powerpoint have sound?09:45
jawshoewahstored in?09:45
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freak_jean, openoffice impress?09:45
gnomefreakjean ask at #windows09:45
Bevinhow do I manage which gcc version is currently the default for the system?09:45
mika0800to set active partition to C:, just boot from a MS-DOS floppy or CD nad run FDISK. The other way: can run win dos prompt only from HD  as well09:45
CentHOGGfreak_: so it's not possible?09:45
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gnomefreaklinux doesnt have rights to powerpoint09:45
PapooseTo add a second HD, what format type and access Path is best?09:45
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tehdotquick question, I have a laptop with composite out, does anyone know if the DRI project or any other OS driver projects support it?09:46
jeanfreak_: yes impress09:46
psusimika0800, it isn't "dos prompt"... XP does not have anything to do with dos... it does have a recovery console though09:46
freak_CentHOGG, it is, but it may take lots and lots of tweaking, but ubuntu usually autoconfigures what it can, you can try another distro, recompile the kernel with the correct modules, or tweak like hell, heh09:46
mika0800oh, on some PC's (especially older ones) the /boot -pertition should be in the first 8 Gigabytes of the HD.09:47
mika0800U may make a dos boot floppy from Win98 for example09:47
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freak_jean, it should have sounds, its meant to be as much like powerpoint as possible, dont quote me on it though, check http://www.openoffice.org/ to double check09:47
tr011Papoose, if you are going to store too much data in big files, you could use ext3 or ext2, and /media/yournewhd is a good path09:47
kameronPapoose: it's all up to you really.09:47
jeanfreak_: thanks09:48
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Papoosetro: What does access Path mean?09:48
psusimika0800, please don't say "U" instead of "you" and other things like that... it is annoying and makes you look silly... is it really that much more work to hit the other two keys?09:48
jeanfreak_: i wonder if the sound is included in the file because i have a ppt file here but no sound09:49
kameronPapoose, i'd suggest ext3 and /media/hdd like tr011 said is good, or /mnt/hdd.09:49
boxygrrr09:49
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boxyWhen i try to install nvidia-glx it wants to install linux and linux headers for 386 when i already have the686 versions installed09:49
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thegladiatorhi09:49
zoexiihello, I cannot get gnome baker to recognize a .img disk image file... Is there some way to convert this to ISO within linux?09:49
PuMpErNiCkLePapoose: In linux, extra HDDs appear as part of the main filesystem, not separately lettered drives (as in windows).09:49
thegladiatorhi09:49
sapohi folks, i just installed dapper 64bits here, but i kept my 32bits install untouched, is it safe to mount my old /home/usr folder (that is in another partition) in this new install? is it going to mess my 32bits configs?09:49
PuMpErNiCkLePapoose: So access path is where you want it to show up in the filesystem.09:49
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psusizoexii, .img is not a standard file extention... what kind of data is it supposed to contain?09:50
PapoosePuMpErNiCkLe ok that makes sense thanks09:50
zoexiipsusi, it is the old mac format for disk images,09:50
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BockBilbohey09:50
psusizoexii, it may be a floppy disk image09:50
BockBilbois firefox 1.5 availble in the backports?09:50
psusizoexii, ohh... well, what kind of disk image is it?09:50
shinobi319what is the easiest way to wipe an ubuntu hard drive?09:50
tr011zoexii, google img to iso09:50
zoexiipsusi, before they switched to .dmg...  no, I know it to be a cd rom image,09:50
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Andrew|is ubuntu the best distro for n00bs?09:50
kameronPapoose: for example, i have my NTFS partition 'mounted' at /media/ntfs. it's not D:/ or anything like that.09:51
butcherbirdsapo: i might be wrong but cant think of anything that would be different09:51
PuMpErNiCkLesapo: It should be fine - just don't mount it as /home/usr in the new install.09:51
kameronAndrew|: potentially yes, it certainly makes a good candidate.09:51
tr011Andrew|, is a good distro for every body09:51
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trkoreckymika0800: So let me get this straight:  I free up some space at the end of my drive for Linux by shortening my XP partition.  I then install Ubuntu in the unpartitioned space, install GRUB in /boot, and use FDISK to set /boot as the active partition?09:51
TranceRiverWhen I type in "sudo touch /opt/firefox/extensions/talkback@mozilla.org/chrome.manifest" in the terminal, the next prompt says "Password:" and awaits my call.  I cannot then type in any password, because my keyboard wont work after that.   ANy ideas?09:51
CentHOGGAndrew|: i would say the friendliest permission-wise09:51
psusizoexii, well, if it is a straight disk image without any special mac headers or anything, it should just work... try renaming it to .iso09:51
XenguyAndrew|: It is as good, or better, than any IMHO09:51
mika0800probably (but cannot guarantee this): just rename .img to .iso ... especially if the .img is exactly 1474560 bytes (=18*80*2*512)09:51
sakkewis ubuntu live cd just a demo, or can i setup a webcam with it?09:51
Andrew|thanks guys09:51
boxyTrance it doesnt show what your typing09:51
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kamerontrkorecky, yes, except for the last bit about Fdisk, that's unnecessary09:51
sapoPuMpErNiCkLe, but i want to use my old configs and stuff09:51
tr011Andrew|, but you always need some beginers nfo... what i mean al depends on how noob you are09:51
zoexiipsusi, will try, thanks.09:51
freak_anyone with Fluxbox in here?09:51
shinobi319is there an easy way to wipe an ubuntu hard drive?09:51
kamerontrkorecky, oh sorry, if you install grub to /boot, then yes, you should do that, but it's reccomended that you install grub to the MBR, master boot loader09:52
boxyrm -rf /09:52
mwefreak_: yeah09:52
freak_shinobi319, yes, fdisk09:52
garycI would like to paste 2 lines of errors only?09:52
butcherbirdfreak_: used to use flux09:52
Papoosekameron ok so if I wanted more HD's my access path should be /media/HD1 and the other /media/HD2 ... somthing like that?>09:52
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PuMpErNiCkLesapo: You could copy them from another location - I'm just worried that if they get overwritten, there could be problems for your 32bit Breezy install.09:52
Andrew|[20:51:54]  <tr011> Andrew|, but you always need some beginers nfo... what i mean al depends on how noob you are <<--- i know nothing :)09:52
gnomefreakboxy, hold on i have something you need to use09:52
freak_butcherbird, on ubuntu?09:52
shinobi319ok how do i use fdisk (im sorry im kind of new at this)09:52
boxyshinobi319 if you want to keep the partition rm -rf / if you want to redo the partitions use fdisk09:52
boxykay gnomefreak09:52
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kameronPapoose, yes, that's the general convention in ubuntu. you could put it *anywhere* though, like /home/papoose/harddrives/hda09:52
butcherbirdfreak_: a little is this ubuntu specific?09:52
trkoreckykameron: I don't really want to mess with my MBR, in case I would like to remove Ubuntu and quickly return to XP without anything affecting it09:52
psusitrkorecky, the ununtu installer will automatically prompt you to shrink windows and install to the free space09:52
sapoPuMpErNiCkLe, hum.. i think i ll just copy the config files from breezy to here, and them mount the partition in another place09:52
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sapoPuMpErNiCkLe,  thanx :)09:53
TranceRiverOkay.  Does anyone here use Dvorak (the typing layout)09:53
PuMpErNiCkLesapo: np :)09:53
kamerontrkorecky, from fdisk type: fdisk /mbr. that will replace the default windows bootloader, and you will boot to windows without problem.09:53
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mika0800..09:53
gnomefreakboxy, add these http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/q3AHZM91.html09:53
tr011Andrew|, so you could try mandriva is a very very easy distro... and with (too many) wizzards09:53
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kamerontrkorecky, or from a live cd such as ubuntu, or knoppix: install-mbr /dev/hda09:53
garyccan i post 2 lines of errors from the terminal?09:53
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mika0800trk... : /boot should be a separate partition, located in the first 8 gigabytes of the HD. If you just create a /boot -directory (or let the installer do that for you), it may not be so easy...09:53
gnomefreak!pastebin09:53
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org09:53
freak_butcherbird, well i installed FB on ubuntu and it didn't link ANYTHING, not even its own themes so im struggling getting the menu configures, the themes linked, and then getting pypanel and aDesklets working with it09:53
psusikameron, that's assuming you have an old dos boot disk with dos fdisk on it...09:54
kamerongaryc, yes, but please use the pastebin for anything longer09:54
CentHOGG!wireless09:54
ubotuwell, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards09:54
mwegaryc: only in pastebin or people get pissed09:54
gnomefreak98 boot disks :)09:54
kameronpsusi: every dos bootdisk has fdisk09:54
kameronor 98, etc09:54
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gnomefreaki have 4 or 5 98 boot disks :(09:54
freak_98's fdisk sucks09:54
bloodhow do i look at my drives again09:54
psusimika0800, if you don't have a rather old computer, there is no need for a seperate /boot partition09:54
mika0800if you cannot move your winXP partition out of  the way to get a new (small) partition in the first 8 GB of your HD, you may have no other choice than to install the GRUB in the MBR.09:54
freak_just use the fdisk off of DOS6.2 diskettes09:54
kameroni have 7.10.. the unofficial dos with support for something or other.09:54
trkoreckySo I should just let it take over the standard MBR and then reset it should I decide to remove Ubunut?09:54
gnomefreakkameron, only problem is me 2k nt and xp dont have boot disks :)09:55
mwefreak_: so does linux fdisk, though it usually works09:55
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kamerongnomefreak, you can use a 98 disk for those09:55
psusikameron, right... which is why i said assuming you have a dos boot disk... most people don't these days... especially if they got a computer that came with XP09:55
gnomefreakkameron, i know09:55
kameronpsusi, i'm assuming that guy has one, because he mentioned it09:55
psusihell, I don't even have a floppy disk drive09:55
mika0800And, if you install it in the MBR, maybe someone else can tell you more about that choice, because I never do that if I intend to make a dualboot system09:55
gnomefreakthats why i have the 98 disks around09:55
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freak_mwe, do you use Fluxbox with ubuntu?09:55
bloodhow do i look to see what my c: is called in the teerminal09:55
butcherbirdfreak_: i didnt have any problems like that when i apt-get'd fluxbox..09:55
mwefreak_: yeah09:55
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gnomefreakyou can get a dos boot disk without having windows :)09:56
kameronpsusi, i don't know how people get by without floppies. boot disks, bios flashes, emergencies.. it's so handy, and they sell for less than $10, how can you afford not to?09:56
kamerongnomefreak, you can, but it's a nicety09:56
trkoreckyMaybe I'll just let Ubuntu here on my dedicated Ubuntu machine and leave my Windows machine alone for gaming09:56
Xenguyhttp://bootdisk.com09:56
freak_mwe, did yours link all the applications in the menu automaticly and know where all the styles/themes were?09:56
kamerontrkorecky, you can do that, or dual boot, or install windows games in linux!09:56
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gnomefreakkameron, true but windows is yucky to me09:56
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freak_butcherbird, i didnt on Debian 3.1(r0)09:56
gnomefreakonly reason i have it installed is for school09:56
kamerongnomefreak, not just you. i think i can name 692 people who would agree :P09:56
trkoreckykameron: My Ubuntu machine is having a hard time running Ubuntu, nonetheless running Windows games09:57
gnomefreaklol09:57
psusikameron, they are 20 year old obsolete piles of crap... I wrote a disk driver for them once and man that hardware sucks... what do you need it for when you have cds?09:57
kamerontrkorecky, ah09:57
mika0800even in new computers, there is a limit where BIOS can access. IN older computers, that is normally 8 GB, but on some computers may be only 4 or even only 2 GB !09:57
mwefreak_: I have menu and menu-xdg installed, so the menu was populated09:57
trkoreckykameron: 664MHz P3, 414MB RAM, hard drive older than Jesus, etc.09:57
mwefreak_: it also had links to themes in it09:57
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mika0800In new computers, the limit may be more, but there still is a limit09:57
kameronpsusi, i like them :D09:57
kameronpsusi, can you do a bios flash from cdrom?09:57
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garycI get these errors in terminal. I do not know what M2 is. I tried google to find out what M2 meant. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/681709:58
CentHOGGanybody here ubuntu & D-link wireless09:58
tr011trkorecky, the 80286 IBM/ps2 that is just at my left is laughting .... XD09:58
PuMpErNiCkLeblood: 'nano /etc/fstab' and check for the line that says '/' as the mount point09:58
psusimika0800, Ummm... no... only older computers have the limit... really, really ancient computers the limit is 512 mb... really old computers it is 2 gb... old computers ( older than say, 3 years or so ) the limit is 8 gb09:58
gnomefreakkameron, not sure ive only heard of it from floppy09:58
mika0800does someone know: even if the BIOS supports LBA (on new machines it always does), can GRUB access the HD using LBA, or is it limited to the old CHS system ?09:58
garycmwe, i put the errors in pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/681709:58
freak_mwe, i have those installed but no luck, should i try removing FB completely and reinstalling menu and menu-xdg before installing FB?09:58
kamerongnomefreak, then my $10 investment was well worth it09:58
psusikameron, sure09:58
trkoreckytr011: heh, I can imagine.  It deeply saddened me to throw away some old 486/DX machines and a P2 333MHz one09:58
gnomefreakyes i would say so if you got a floppy :)09:58
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psusikameron, just burn a bootable cd using the floppy disk image09:59
mwefreak_: or run update-menus maybe09:59
gnomefreaktrkorecky, why would you do that?09:59
kameronpsusi, what about on older machines that don't boot to cds?09:59
psusimika0800, grub uses lba if it is supported by the bios09:59
mika0800I use Linux on several computers, ranging from 120 Mhz pentium to 1200 Mhz AMD Athlon09:59
bozCan anyone recommend a good program to run live streaming audio over the Net?09:59
Thoriocould anyone please help me fix my network connection on my ubuntu box? i have no idea why it wont work..09:59
freak_mwe, whats the exact syntax for that line? fbdesk update-menus?09:59
tr011trkorecky, one month ago i throw  my old celeron 300 mhz... it was only using room space09:59
psusikameron, older than what?  6 years?  throw them away ;)09:59
trkoreckygnomefreak: We had nowhere to go with them, and my father was tired of having them in the house.09:59
kameronpsusi, what about.. umm.. yeah. it's frickin $10, and it comes in handy! that's more than i can say about other computer peripherals and devices.09:59
powderfingerAnyone know ehere we ca get such @floppy images@?09:59
gnomefreak:((10:00
kameronpowderfinger, what floppy images?10:00
mika0800ok, that means that on newer computers the partition where you boot from must be located in the first 137 GB (= 128 GiB) of the HD.10:00
mwegaryc: what makes you think I know anything about opera? :)10:00
gnomefreak<<always looking for pcs used10:00
psusikameron, I'll stick with me cds ;)10:00
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kameronpsusi, i have 2 floppy drives, no cds, i LOVE floppies10:00
mwegaryc: I know it's a browser. that's about it10:01
kameronpsusi, brand new computer too10:01
trkoreckytr011: What would be more beneficial for speed with this comptuer: a new hard drive (that holds more than 4GB and isn't old) or new/more RAM?10:01
blood /dev/media/sda1 /backup how come that dont work10:01
gnomefreakmwe you can chat from opera browser too :(10:01
psusikameron, you're crazy ;)10:01
PuMpErNiCkLeboz: VLC, or maybe icecast10:01
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powderfingerkameron, eg. Windows 98 boot floopies..10:01
kameronpsusi, kidding :P i have 1 and use it once a month or so10:01
david_m_eat-large question: (i tried the Samba room first, but its doa over there); i have an XP computer and a Ubuntu/Samba computer; when on the XP computer, the "computers in this workgroup" shows both computers, but when i try to log on to the linux box from the XP box, i get rejected; when i try the net use command, it seems to try, but the username/password are rejected; where do i set up users to allow them to log in to a Linux box from10:01
david_m_e another machine (specifically, WinXP) ?10:01
bozthanks nickle10:01
mwefreak_: I think you should just type update-menus10:01
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PuMpErNiCkLeboz: Or ffmpeg10:01
freak_mwe, ok10:01
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kameronpowderfinger, www.bootdisk.com it's kinda retarded to navigate, but you'll find it eventually. or google DOS 7.10 image10:02
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mika0800in fact, I installed a 200 GB IDE disk using linux, to a very old computer (Pentium 120 MHz, BIOS updated 1999), and connected the IDE disk straight into the motherboard's IDE connector. Linux does that correctly. Win98 does not.10:02
Katie^Riddell : is that a good or bad thing :p10:02
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powderfingerkameron Thanks off there now10:02
psusikameron, of course... any actual msdos image you download is an illegal pirated copy ;)10:02
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garyckameron, would you look at the errors? do you know what to do about this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/681710:02
RiddellKatie^: good of course!10:02
Katie^you from edinrugh?10:02
RiddellKatie^: yes10:02
Katie^Argh, that made sense.10:02
mika0800But you need a recent kernel (2.4.19 or newer) to do that. So I waited for Debian Sarge to do that. Woody's kernel is too old.10:02
kamerongaryc, ill check it in a sec10:02
Katie^where about10:03
kameronKatie^, hey there <310:03
Katie^hey :)10:03
Katie^omg, i love this song10:03
bloodto mount a drive in the backup folder i would " /dev/media/sda1 /backup" cause it doesnt work (/media/sda1 is c:)10:03
RiddellKatie^: polwarth/fountainbridge10:03
Katie^oh nice, are you at a gym?10:03
Katie^I'm trying to join, but bannatynes was like 80 p/m10:03
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trkoreckyAll: What would be more beneficial for speed with my old computer: a new hard drive (that holds more than 4GB and isn't old) or new/more RAM?10:03
kamerongaryc: i've never run opera before10:03
psusiblondie, there is no /dev/media.. it's just /dev/sda110:04
boxygnomefreak i give up i've broke it. lol10:04
david_m_eno takers?10:04
kamerongaryc: :P10:04
RiddellKatie^: I tend to canoe on the canal but the council run PulseCentres have always served me well when I wanted a gym10:04
PuMpErNiCkLetrkorecky: both10:04
PapooseI formated my HD but it says it is inaccessable10:04
david_m_eSeveas, u too busy?10:04
psusitrkorecky, both... or even better, a new computer ;)10:04
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mika0800there is OpenDos for those who need a bootable dos system and have no MS-license for it.10:04
freak_mwe, didn't work10:04
Katie^Riddell : Join #ubuntu-offtopic before they all have hissy fits ;)10:04
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freak_or you can just pirate windows like everyone else10:04
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trkoreckyPuMpErNiCkLe: psusi I'm not looking to spend much.  Which one of the two upgrades would provide the largest gain in performance?10:05
kamerontrkorecky, ram10:05
PuMpErNiCkLetrkorecky: In performance, probably the RAM.10:05
chriswoodallis their any ppc distro that will install on an external drive10:05
psusitrkorecky, what kind of ram and hard drive do you have now?10:05
Katie^who is it that's selling a computer next month for liek 200 without MS windows10:05
kamerontrkorecky, but popping for a really small hard drive, like 15 gigs, will be extremely inexpensive10:05
psusitrkorecky, and you are running xwindows on this machine, or using it as a file server?10:05
mwefreak_: I don't know why. I think it should10:05
Dr_WillisKatie^,  ya mean the googlepc?10:05
Katie^ahh, is that who10:05
CanYouHelpMePlzKatie^: i think it's dell10:05
Katie^aye, I couldn't remember10:05
freak_alright well im gonna go into gnome and try reinstalling all this crap10:06
trkoreckypsusi: X.  I wouldn't mind using it as a temporary web server or something (though my ISP does not allow permanent servers)10:06
Dr_Willistheres a great many places selling Linux based pc's for cheap these days10:06
Brendonhi all, i'm having trouble with svn i can't seem to commit new changes. Here are the commands i type plus the errors they produce. http://paste.lisp.org/display/15516 Thanks in advance.10:06
PuMpErNiCkLeDr_Willis: Like WalMart. :D10:06
trkoreckypsusi: This computer is mostly for playing around with Linux10:06
RedStalker_Mikei want to download all debian docs. what .deb package i must to "apt-get" :) ?10:06
mwefreak_: maybe you idea of reinstalling flux now that you have menu and menu-xdg installed is not a bad idea10:06
Chousukeapt-cache search documentation10:06
Chousuke:p10:06
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CanYouHelpMePlzgoogle denied they are going to sell a pc..10:07
psusitrkorecky, ok... so what kind of ram and disk are in it now? if you plan on running xwindows on it you will want a minimum of 256 megs10:07
freak_mwe, alright10:07
narleshow do i go about uninstalling VLC?10:07
mwefreak_: move ~/.fluxbox as well maybe10:07
CanYouHelpMePlzsudo apt-get remove vl10:07
CanYouHelpMePlzsudo apt-get remove vlc10:07
Dr_WillisHmm.. tv was just showing a air-traffic controller room.. and there was a windows box with a big "it crashed" message box on it..10:07
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Dr_Willis:P10:07
narlesthanks10:07
trkoreckypsusi: I'm not sure about the hard drive, I think it's 5400RPM but it holds 4GB.  The RAM is at 414MB10:07
freak_mwe, i'll make sure all the conf files are deleted after telling apt to remove everything10:07
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psusitrkorecky, that's a funky number... ram allways comes in powers of two... should be 51210:08
mika0800now: does anyone know how to force the Ubuntu 5.04 Hoary's installer to load the 3c509 kernel module to get the installer to recognize 3COM Etherlink III 3c509B ISA NIC card ?10:08
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psusitrkorecky, at that point I'd say get a new drive...10:08
Papooseafter I format my new HD Do I have to restart for it to be accessable and show up whereever I made the path?10:08
tehdotquick question, I have a laptop with composite out, does anyone know if the DRI project or any other OS driver projects support it?10:08
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PuMpErNiCkLemika0800: 'sudo modprobe 3c509B'10:09
Dr_WillisPapoose,  if you fdisked it - you might have to..10:09
mika0800512 MB RAM is enough for most purposes. Of course you need more if you do something memory-hungry...10:09
psusiPapoose, or sudo mount -a10:09
psusiPapoose, or sudo mount /media/hdd or whatever10:09
trkoreckypsusi: I added all the RAM I had laying around the house.  It's 256+128+32 (alright, 416MB, I can't count)10:09
butcherbirdPapoose: reboot should be a rare occurance10:09
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PapooseAll I did was format using GNOME10:10
Notehi10:10
mika0800yes, I can do that after install. But how can I do the same during the install, and early enough that it forces the installer to recognize the NIC right where it would some other NIC ?10:10
trkoreckypsusi: I may have another 128MB somewhere, but I don't think it worked with this motherboard, had some error in POST10:10
psusitrkorecky, lol.... depending on the speed of the ram modules, you might be better off getting rid of the 32mb one.. if it is slower, it will slow them all down so it can keep up10:10
kenderthiefhi all10:10
boxyis there a way i can basically start my install over to how it was without using the cd cause i did a network install but i had to move all my equipment down there cause of my wifi10:10
butcherbirdPapoose: formatted a parition? you should be able to mount it now then10:10
kameronpowderfinger, find it yet?10:10
boxyalls i need is the base and ndiswrapper10:10
psusitrkorecky, and yea... get a better hard drive...10:11
Papoosebutcherbird how :S10:11
kenderthiefI just installed ubuntu on an ibm thinkpad 600 and I need to adjust the color depth to 16bit10:11
butcherbirdPapoose: what did you format it as?10:11
kenderthiefcan someone help me figure out how to do this?10:11
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Papooseext 310:11
kenderthiefI can only find the resolution and refresh rate10:11
Koruptanybody here know how to use devilspie?10:11
trkoreckypsusi: I'll see how much I have left after I get a new graphics card for my gaming computer.10:11
mika0800at least the Ubuntu Live CD wil not let me change to another console during the install phase and do that 'sudo modprobe 3c509B' there...10:12
Notecan you install Linux on a External drive10:12
Papoosebutcherbird format type= ext 3 Path = /media/HD110:12
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Noteor Unix10:12
trkoreckypsusi: Where would be the best place to get an inexpensive hard drive?  Computer shows?  Ebay?  Elsewhere?10:12
mika0800Is it different for the normal version of Ubuntu (NOt the Live one)10:12
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gnomefreaknote there is a big difference between unix nad linux10:12
butcherbirdPapoose: should be as easy as sudo mount /dev/whatever /media/whatever  if unsure of partion number (/dev/hda etc) type sudo fdisk -l to list all paritions10:12
Dr_Willistrkorecky,  depends on the size you want.10:12
Dr_Willistrkorecky,  and your budget10:12
Notegnomefreak: I realize this10:12
psusitrkorecky, computer shows or ebay... you should be able to pick up a used 7200 rpm drive for dirt cheap10:13
mika0800new 40 GB HD's from 50 EUR... bigger are of course more (but not much more...)10:13
PuMpErNiCkLemika0800: Try booting in expert mode during the install.10:13
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david_m_eis there an "anonymous" or "guest" type user that can be activated so that i can log in to my linux box from an WinXp box without having to provide a user name and password?10:13
trkoreckypsusi: Alright, I'll look around10:13
PuMpErNiCkLemika0800: Apparently they prompt you for stuff like kernel modules.10:13
kamerondavid_m_e, hahaha, no10:13
yatesydavid_m_e: no, linux actually tries to be secure :P10:13
mika0800yes, but that prompts for "modules from floppy"... what if I don10:13
david_m_edid u see my earlier question?10:13
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Dr_Willisdavid_m_e,  you could make a 'public' share i belive.. but you will need to learn how to manually edit the samba config.10:14
Dr_Willisdavid_m_e,  the 'using samba' book has examples.10:14
mika0800... don't have any floppy but I know that 3c509 driver module is on the install CD...10:14
Dr_Willisor just make a guest account.10:14
david_m_ei have an XP computer and a Ubuntu/Samba computer; when on the XP computer, the "computers in this workgroup" shows both computers, but when i try to log on to the linux box from the XP box, i get rejected; when i try the net use command, it seems to try, but the username/password are rejected; where do i set up users to allow them to log in to a Linux box from  another machine (specifically, WinXP)10:14
NoteI am guessing it cannot be installed onan external drive can any OS be installed ona n external drive?10:14
Dr_Williswell a account named guest, or somthing :P10:14
kamerondavid_m_e, don't paste the same thing over10:14
yatesyah i see10:14
psusiNote, yes, linux can be installed on an external drive10:14
yatesydavid_m_e: create a user thats identical to your windows user10:14
Notepsusi: PPC?10:14
gnomefreaknote as long as linux sees it you should have 0 problems externel is same as internel minus the way its connected and the case around it10:15
yatesyand set your samba password to the same as your windows user account10:15
mika0800I think the problem is due to a bug in the 2.6 -series kernels: the kernel misidentifies the 3c509 as 3c905 and load the wrong kernel module -which will not work.10:15
yatesyit won't ask for credentials then10:15
david_m_eyatesy: where?10:15
yatesydavid_m_e: man smbpasswd10:15
Dr_Willisdavid_m_e,  for the users on the linux box to allow windows in.. they must have theur samba password set with 'smbpasswd -a username'  then restart samba10:15
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Notemember:gnomefreak: yes but yaboot wont install10:15
david_m_ethank you Dr Willis10:15
sklavhi guys10:15
psusiNote, I don't know a whole lot about macs but I believe so10:16
gnomefreaki didint see you state it was a mac or not10:16
david_m_erestarting samba requires logoff/logon or reboot?10:16
Dr_Willisdavid_m_e,  that 'using samba' book has details - and its a free download. :P10:16
Notepsusi: Yaboot wont load up10:16
yatesydavid_m_e: no, just restart the service10:16
david_m_eDr Willis: i  will try the book again;10:16
Notethats my problem10:16
powderfingerdavid_m_e /etc10:16
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sklavdavid_m_e no restarting samba is a simple /etc/init.d/smb restart10:16
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david_m_ei DID try the book; i assume u refer to the book on samba.org?10:16
psusiNote, you mean the mac won't load yaboot, or yaboot fails?10:17
mika0800does someone know how to tell the Ubuntu installer that I want to load the 3c509 module, but NOT from a floppy, but from the InstallCD ?10:17
Dr_Willisdavid_m_e,  theres a book out called 'using samba' its free for download i recall.. i read it ages ago.. and its  the definitive guide :P lol..10:17
Dr_Willisdavid_m_e,  by the time i was through chapter 4 - i knew about all i needed to know.10:17
shinobi319how do i install drivers in ubuntu?10:17
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Notepsusi: During install yaboot fails to install10:17
david_m_ehowever, this seems to be enuf info; i don't like asking questions without RTM'ng first, but i have been tryhing to figure this out for over a week now10:17
david_m_eall help appreciated10:17
gnomefreakshinobi319, what drivers?10:18
Notebasically I cant boot it10:18
boxyis there a way to remove almost all the packages on my computer with apt-get?10:18
shinobi319first off my LAN driver10:18
gnomefreakeverything on  a pc uses drivers :(10:18
Dr_Willisdavid_m_e,  its fairly straight forward. but it depends on exactly what/how you want to do things10:18
psusiNote, try installing it by hand10:18
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shinobi319i have no idea what to do...i read up a little and i need to use the "makefile" thing?10:18
mweshinobi319: they're installed during boot. just if you need something special you need to do anything10:18
shinobi319i dont understand it10:18
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gnomefreakshinobi319, what are you installing?10:18
Dr_Willisshinobi319,  what 'lan' driver are you refering to?10:18
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Notepsusi: how would one do that10:18
boxyis there a way to remove almost all the packages on my computer with apt-get?10:18
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psusiNote, man yaboot ;)10:19
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mweshinobi319: and then in most cases it's just a matter of loading the right module10:19
mika0800well, if the installer just lets me switch virtual consoles, maybe I should play tricks with unmounting the floppy and make a symbolic link so the installer will use a directory of the installCD as the floppy ?10:19
gnomefreakthinks*10:19
mweshinobi319: What don't you understand?10:19
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shinobi319well the installation process in linux is entirely different than windows10:19
northie!java10:20
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs10:20
damnhilhow do I execute a bash script in simulation? "Print  the  commands  that  would  be executed, but do not execute     them."?10:20
northie!javadebs10:20
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy10:20
mweshinobi319: what's the "makefile" thing ?10:20
shinobi319i have to use the "makefile" thing and make a new kernel or something?10:20
Papoosebutcherbird Says it can't find10:20
mweshinobi319: um yes10:20
gnomefreakshinobi319, are you going to tell us what you are installing?10:20
sklav!fonts10:20
ubotusomebody said fonts was https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto10:20
mika0800to list installed packages: put this in a textfile and give it execute rights: COLUMNS=$1 dpkg -l | grep ^i >pak$1.txt10:20
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mweshinobi319: linux is an entirely different system, so ...10:20
Morrowynhow do i turnon the numlock key by default, my bios says boot with numlock on, but when i boot into ubuntu , it turns it off :-/10:20
Xenguyshinobi319: bad questions get bad answers :-) What specifically are you trying to do?10:20
mweshinobi319: for what?10:20
shinobi319would anyone be willing to talk in a private channel? im having a tough time keeping up with this10:20
gnomefreakMorrowyn,  look at the guide in your help icon it will tell you10:21
gnomefreakunder tips and tricks10:21
Dr_WillisMorrowyn,  I belive there is an answer to that in the ubuntu wiki's or forums - i forget the details. but i think gnome has a option to do that.10:21
shinobi319to help me with a few (what i assume are) basic functions in linux10:21
Dr_Willis:P10:21
butcherbirdPapoose: try typing 'mount' its possible gnome already mounted it10:21
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shinobi319im new to it and i desperately need help10:21
peaceyo10:21
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butcherbirdPapoose: that will respond will all mounted devices10:21
northieWould someone spare a minute to guide me through getting java into firefox?10:21
freak_mwe, didnt work10:21
gnomefreakshinobi319, what are you trying to install??????????10:21
sklavwhat is the name of the ms true type fonts link?10:21
gnomefreak!fonts10:21
sklavpackage10:21
ubotuwell, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto10:21
shinobi319first off my LAN driver10:21
sklavi checked that10:21
mwethis is breezy, right?10:21
peacefufge10:21
peacefuck10:21
mwefreak_: this is breezy, right?10:21
freak_gnomefreak, he doenst know what hes trying to install10:21
peaceoops10:22
shinobi319i have an ASUS P4V8X-MX motherboard10:22
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peacesorry10:22
freak_mwe, 5.1010:22
Morrowynthanks :)10:22
mwefreak_: yeah10:22
gnomefreakfreak_, i see that :(10:22
shinobi319i have the cd10:22
shinobi319and it says it has linux lan drivers on it10:22
p337Hi everyone... I am currently installing Kubuntu (5.10) on my laptop for the first time... and it locked up at the part when it says "Starting Hotplug subsystem"... Its been about 10 minutes... any ideas?10:22
freak_mwe, yea10:22
shinobi319but i dont know how to install them10:22
mwefreak_: and menu and menu-xdg is installed10:22
peacesammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm10:22
freak_mwe, yea10:22
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peaceyo freak10:22
mwefreak_: did you do apt-get --purge remove fluxbox?10:22
mika0800I just downloaded Ubuntu Hoary = 5.04, so I will try to install that... but think that it's going to be hard time to get my 3c509 NIC to work properly..10:22
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MonsieurBonhello10:23
Papoosebutcherbird Didn't respond with it10:23
Mitch_OwenHey10:23
mwefreak_: to get rid of it entirely10:23
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MonsieurBoncan somebody tell me what wxPython is?10:23
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freak_mwe, no, i use synaptic package manager, told it to "remove and delete configuration files"10:23
shinobi319gnomefreak do you think you could help me?10:23
Mitch_OwenI need help with installing a wireless card with ubuntu10:23
butcherbirdmika0800: i think module for that is included10:23
gnomefreakMonsieurBon, man python10:23
Mitch_Owenif someone could PM about this that would be great!10:23
mwefreak_: same thing I recon10:23
gnomefreakshinobi319, not without knowing what lan card you are using or anything else10:23
Xenguy!pm10:24
ubotupm is, like, Ask your questions in the channel so that other people may also benefit from answers received.10:24
MonsieurBonMitch_Owen, what card have you got?10:24
boxyWOHOOO10:24
boxyFinally nvidia decides to install.10:24
freak_mwe, was it update-menus or menu-update?10:24
gnomefreaklol boxy10:24
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lightbrightsometimes 5mins after when I dial into my ISP, the modem lights go crazy for no reason with incoming data and outgoing data!  ANY ideas what could cause this?  Is some sort of trojan running sending someone my data?10:24
Papoosebutcherbird sudo mound /media/HD1? if that is that path I formated?10:24
Papoose*mount10:24
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mwefreak_: update-menus from a terminal. then restart fluxbox10:24
shinobi319gnomefreak can we talk in a  private channel or something? i would really appreciate it10:24
MonsieurBongnomefreak, it's not python, it's something different10:24
gnomefreakman wxpython10:24
butcherbirdPapoose: ah yes if you can navigate to that directory its already mounted probably10:25
lightbrightgnomefreak: any ideas?10:25
Mitch_OwenMonsieurBon, I have two cards a linksys and a belkin, both wireless  type "b" cards. I just have no clue if it is plug and play and ubutu will recognize or what. and I have no clue how I would set up the wireless connection10:25
gnomefreakman <whatever its called>10:25
Mitch_OwenI have probably overlooked a how-to somewhere10:25
gnomefreaklighti didnt see it10:25
freak_mwe, nope, still just have "Fluxbox Default Menu"10:25
MonsieurBongnomefreak, I haven't got it yet! :)10:25
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shinobi319gnomefreak please i just need like 5 minutes...i have the linux driver for my LAN card but i dont know how to install it10:25
gnomefreakMonsieurBon, to man it you dont need to have it10:25
MonsieurBonMitch_Owen, PCMCIA cards?10:25
gnomefreakshiwhat card do you have?10:26
mwefreak_: try update-menus -d to see what it does. see if it mentions anything about fluxbox10:26
MonsieurBongnomefreak, but there's no entry! ;)10:26
shinobi319its an onboard lan card10:26
Mitch_OwenMonsieurBon, Yes, I believe so PCI cards10:26
gnomefreakshinobi319, what card10:26
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gnomefreakname of it10:26
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shinobi319on my ASUS P4V8X-MX motherboard10:26
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Mr_Molezhow do i take something out of runlevel at command prompt ?10:26
MonsieurBonMitch_Owen, that's not the same10:26
sapohi, is there a way to copy *just* the *hidden* files of a folder to another?10:26
gerald-voltanyone know the gcc command to compile C?10:26
gnomefreaklightbright, no i dont know10:26
PuMpErNiCkLemika0800: http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/BootPrompt-HOWTO-11.html#ss11.1 - does this help at all?10:26
Mitch_OwenMonsieurBon, they are PCI cards10:26
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gnomefreakgerald-volt, gcc <file.c> -o file10:27
gnomefreakno <>10:27
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gerald-voltand what library do I use/10:27
gerald-voltlike the .h10:27
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butcherbirdPapoose: another command is df -h it shows freespace available should display whatever size partion you formatted10:27
gnomefreak.c10:27
Mr_Molezhow do i take something out of runlevel at command prompt ?10:27
gnomefreakfor c10:27
gerald-volti mean the #include10:27
gerald-voltwhatever10:27
mweand the -o is optional it will just get the great name a.out if you leave it out :)10:27
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gnomefreak.h for headers  .sh for bash10:27
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MonsieurBonMitch_Owen, what chip do they use? most chips are supported by ubuntu. For RTL8180 there's a good opensource driver which you have to compile yourself. But I'm no expert...10:27
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gnomefreak.py python10:27
gerald-voltno10:28
ante_Hmm, noobquestion here... But how do I "wget" something? =)10:28
freak_mwe, last line "update-menus[6889] : Running Method: /etc/menu-methods/fluxbox"10:28
gerald-volti mean do I use #include stdio.h ?10:28
gerald-voltor what/10:28
shinobi319can anyone please talk to me in a private channel for just a couple minutes to help me learn how to install my LAN driver?10:28
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lightbrightdoes anyone know?10:28
mwefreak_: that's good10:28
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PuMpErNiCkLeante_: wget URL10:28
Mitch_OwenMonsieurBon, I will check, where would I find such drivers?10:28
sapoante_, wget -c http://example.com/example.zip10:28
gnomefreak#include stdio.h is a header file that you already have10:28
ante_well, were?10:28
MonsieurBonMitch_Owen, sourceforge10:28
gerald-voltk10:28
sapoante_, -c is to resume10:28
mika0800pumpernickle: the page referred has this important note: "The ether= only applies to drivers compiled directly into the kernel." .. .and, since we are talking about modules here, will not work10:28
Dr_Willisshinobi319,  for a start - its your 'network card' driver..  you need to find what chipset that mb is using for your onboard network card.10:28
butcherbirdlightbright: what was question?10:28
gnomefreakall its doing is calling that file to work10:28
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ante_I don't understand a shit about what u're saying :P10:29
Mr_Molezanyone know how i can stop cupsd starting at boot ? from commandline ?10:29
definityhow can i find my ip in ubuntu?10:29
PuMpErNiCkLemika0800: k10:29
sapo10:29
shinobi319Dr_Willis, i have the MB cd and i have the driver i need10:29
mwefreak_: look at ~/.fluxbox/menu . see if it has anything in it10:29
sklavweird10:29
shinobi319i just dont know how to install it10:29
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butcherbirdMr_Molez: easiest way maybe sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/cupsd10:29
Mitch_OwenMonsieurBon, what should I be searching for10:29
shinobi319there is no .exe like in WinXP10:29
gnomefreakgerald-volt, in like 3-5 mins i will be in #ubuntu-offtopic any more programming questions i will answer there10:29
Thorioanyone got any theories? my router detects my nic (reports the macadress correctly) ubuntu recognizes my card it seems, but for some reason i cant seem to ping my router even after setting up the network manually.. PLEASE theorize:)10:29
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Papoosebutcherbird I did it thanks... it was already mounted but I had to give it an access path in disk manager10:29
Mr_Molezbutcherbird: thanks10:29
FalstiusMr_Molez: you can delete the link from /etc/init.d/rcS.d or you can use update-rc.d10:29
sklavit seems if you edit the apt/sources file and uncomment the multiverse and universe they dont show up in synaptic10:29
MonsieurBonMitch_Owen, first find out, what chip they're using, then google10:29
cfuerst /join #valug10:30
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sklavi had to do it manually in synaptic for them to show up10:30
definityis there a way that i can do ipconfig in linux to show my ip in konsole10:30
definity???10:30
butcherbirdMr_Molez: to change back only make -x +x10:30
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mika0800Thorio: do you happen to use an old ISA 3CON 3c509 ?10:30
Dr_Willisshinobi319,  http://www.linux-tested.com/results/asus_p4v8x-mx.html10:30
freak_mwe, nope, empty10:30
Thoriomika0800 nope.. some noname crap with a realtek 8139 chip10:30
mwefreak_: that's really weird.10:30
Dr_Willisshinobi319,  that site says it has a  On-Board VIA Phine II VT6102    network card.10:30
ubunewbie:please don't scold me! googled already! question: I want to add DAG Wiers xine "repository" so that I can access it via apt-get. How to do that???10:31
mwefreak_: what happens if you rm -rf ~/.fluxbox and then rerun fluxbox and update-menus?10:31
Pygilol, who needed me a long time ago? :P10:31
mika0800I have realtek 8139 based integrated ethenet on a laptop. And have succesfully booted it from Knoppix 3.7 (=2.4 -series kernel). 2.6 -kernels seem to misrecognize some NICs !10:31
definityHOW CAN I FIND MY IP IN LINUX CONSOLE?10:31
freak_mwe, update-menus tried to read from /home/freak/.menu, which doesnt exist10:31
Thoriomika0800 have you had a similar problem?10:31
Falstiusdefinity: /sbin/ifconfig10:31
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powderfingerdefinity DOn't shout ... ifconfig10:31
sklavdefinity, ipconfig10:32
beelzebub1987you know this channel is one of the most highly populated irc channels on freenode10:32
sklavifconfig10:32
beelzebub1987That's pretty cool10:32
sklavmy mistake10:32
mwefreak_: but it didn't fail, did it?10:32
freak_mwe, no10:32
Pygifreaky: ping10:32
Thoriomika0800 ive had this card working on zenlinux, but i just cant seem to get it to work in ubuntu10:32
mika0800Yes, with 2.4 kernel -based Linuxes my 3com ISA 3c509 NIC works fine (so does in Windows). But with 2.6 -kernels, it does not work10:32
definityFaoh haha10:32
mwefreak_: I think it should continue anyway10:32
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definityno10:32
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ante_hmm, anyone? where do i write wget etc. ?10:32
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Thoriomika0800 so basically were screwed?:)10:32
shinobi319Dr_Willis, thank you...but now how to i install the driver for it?10:33
mwefreak_: what happens if you rm -rf ~/.fluxbox and then rerun fluxbox and update-menus?10:33
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damiaanhi folks, I'm considering to install ubuntu on a really old laptop, a 200mhz system, limited on RAM. Is this an issue? are there better distro's? Also, the live-cd froze starting gnome,...10:33
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Dr_Willisshinobi319,  it should allready be there.  http://www.zeroshell.net/hw/  shows the modiule name as being    via-rhine10:33
CentHOGGanybody here ubuntu & D-link wireless10:34
shinobi319i have the installation files here, but the instructions say "compile the source code to generate rhinefet.o)...i have no idea how to "compile the sourcecode"10:34
mika0800Well, putting some lines to /etc/modprobe and similar I got so far, that PING started to work. Also, using firefox to access a local hardware NAT firewall's net based configuration page also worked. But access to public internet still dod not.10:34
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Dr_Willisshinobi319,  what makes you think you need the 'drivers' have you tried to configuire the network yet?10:34
mwefreak_: wait10:34
Mitch_OwenMonsieurBon, Would the best way to find out what chip they are is to look on the company sites...or what do you think?10:34
shinobi319Dr_Willis can we talk in a private channel for just a couple of minutes?10:34
shinobi319i could really use your help10:34
__mikemUbuntu is definiately the best distribution there is, but I woubt it would work on a machine that old10:34
freak_mwe, i did rm, restart, update-menus, restart, and it didnt do anything10:34
mika0800I guess this is either due to missing dns services or missing default gateway10:34
mwefreak_: I just found out update-menus creates ~/.fluxbox/fluxbox-menu not menu10:34
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mwefreak_: look in ~/.fluxbox/fluxbox-menu10:35
mika0800And, I was just trying anything I could think of.... so next reboot would revert some of my changes....10:35
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mwefreak_: does it look better?10:35
__mikemDoes anyone know any good programming chat rooms on IRC10:35
freak_mwe, its there, lemme open gedit10:35
Dr_Willisshinobi319,  ive about told ya all i can do.. Ive just spent 3 min googling. :p   if you need to learn how to configure your network - the ubuntu wiki/docs cover that.10:35
Pygimikem: what do you need?10:35
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damiaan__mikem: what about debian? I've used that a while ago, seemed more flexible...10:35
butcherbird__mikem: language?10:35
__mikemC++10:35
MonsieurBonMitch_Owen, either, or on the box....10:36
__mikemOr Assembly language10:36
shinobi319no i know, and i appreciate it but i just have a couple of basic linux questions10:36
shinobi319im new to it as of today10:36
Pygimikem: are you a beginner?10:36
PapooseIs it normal for a freshly partitioned drive have 7 GiB used for the partition?10:36
freak_ubuntu and debian are practicly the same10:36
Mitch_OwenMonsierBon, I no longer have the boxes...I will check sites10:36
shinobi319and im having a tough time keeping up with all of this scrolling text in herer10:36
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__mikemNo, I am very familior with C++ and I am prety well rounded at ASM10:36
Seveas__mikem, ##C and #python are nice10:36
__mikemok10:36
ubunewbie:please don't scold me! googled already! question: I want to add DAG Wiers xine "repository" so that I can access it via apt-get. How to do that???10:36
__mikemthanks10:36
TranceRiverI created two panels, but the other panel on ubuntu isn't serving as a larger task bar.10:36
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TranceRiverHow do I make it do that?10:36
mika0800I do my programming with Borland Kylix. But for C++, use gcc...10:36
powderfingerpython(+1)10:37
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freak_mwe, yea, theres tons of stuff in it10:37
Dr_Willisshinobi319,  for general linux help - may want to go to #linux or #linuxhelp10:37
Dr_Willisshinobi319,  less croweded there10:37
Seveasubu, can you give some more info about that repository?10:37
Seveas(like a url)10:37
jmghey guys10:37
shinobi319ok10:37
gnomefreakC++ i would use g++10:37
jmgand girls10:37
freak_mwe, redirect fluxbox to fluxbox-menu instead of menu?10:37
mwefreak_: great. now open ~/.fluxbox/init and tell me what the session.menuFile entry says10:37
jmganyone got gaim 2 package for ubuntu?10:37
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Mitch_OwenMonsieurBon, I have the box to the Belkin actually. I see no description of what 'chip'10:37
orospakrhi! is it possible to completely disable dmix in Breezy? Basically I'd like to get alsa back into pre-breezy state.  I am trying to do some proaudio stuff and dmix really gets in the way.10:37
freak_jmg, only source10:37
Pygifreaky: welcome10:37
jmgthat supports debian10:37
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Seveasjmg, gaim2 is still beta and buggy10:37
__mikemG++ is a c++ compiler gnomefreak10:38
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gnomefreakty Pygi10:38
Pygijmg: do NOT use gaim :)))10:38
jmgorospakr: dmix is disabled by default10:38
JoeBlowhave u guys had any luck with gparted, when i do something with it, i reboot, and then it hasnt done the changes i applied10:38
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RedStalker_Mikegaim rules )10:38
freak_Gaim2.0.0beta1 for Windows is awesome and pretty stable10:38
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__mikemtahts like saying I don't use .net, I use c#10:38
ubuhttp://dag.wieers.com/home-made/apt/10:38
JoeBlowPygi, what do u use?10:38
gnomefreak__mikem, this i know10:38
jmgSeveas: no, cvs works fine, i want the beta tho10:38
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Pygiredstalker: No, Gaim is extremly uselles :)))10:38
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freak_mwe, i got fluxconf10:38
PygiJoeBlow: Fama IM :)10:38
MonsieurBonMitch_Owen, have a look into "Gertemanager"  (sorry, don't know the english word...)10:38
butcherbirdJoeBlow: try cfdisk10:38
SeveasPygi, -ETOPIC10:38
JoeBlowbutcherbird, is it a prog, or command?10:38
orospakrjmg, in breezy? I got the impression it was on by default...10:38
TyrsisCan someone help me with installing a Wireless Adapter using ndiswrapper ?10:38
mwefreak_: just look at the file, please. I don't know fluxconf10:38
Pygiseveas: yup, I'll stop10:38
tolstoyubu: I thought dag's repo was for fedora: rpms, pretty much.  has that changed?10:38
butcherbirdJoeBlow: sudo cfdisk its a prog10:39
mwefreak_: just search for session.menuFile10:39
gnomefreakno tolstoy they still are as far as i know10:39
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ubuyes. fedora and debian. But I hoped to be able to access them via ubuntu10:39
stephen__hi, i got problem. I downloaded Mozilla Firefox from website.10:39
david_m_eyatesy, after reviewing the saved text from earlier, i realized that i had forgotten to thank you - so, thanks - your info helped10:39
freak_mwe, fluxconf is just a GUI and it has a text field for the path to the menu file10:39
stephen__How do I get my plugins into the firefox10:39
yatesydavid_m_e: lol no problem10:40
poningrustephen__: take a look at !firefox1.510:40
Seveasubu, that page mentions nothing about debian packages10:40
Pygifreaky: written anything??10:40
stephen__I read that guide10:40
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TyrsisI have a laptop.. Should I download the Horay version or download Breezey ?10:40
poningru!tell stephen__ about firefox1.510:40
stephen__fooked me up!10:40
freak_mwe, HAHA!!! IT WORKED!!!10:40
jmgfama isnt even 0.110:40
mwefreak_: yeah. great10:40
freak_mwe, thanks tons10:40
Pygistephen: use ff1.6a110:40
stephen__yeah that messed up10:40
mwefreak_: I don't know why it was broken10:40
gnomefreakvery lil im gonna start after dinner again10:40
Pygijmg: yes, I know :))))10:40
stephen__I got no flash, no java, no nothing anymroe10:40
jmgorospakr: it should be on by default10:40
stephen__use ff1.6a1?10:40
poningruPygi: dont recomend 1.6 to normal users10:40
butcherbirdTyrsis: i would def go with breezy esp on laptop10:40
TyrsisOk10:40
gnomefreakstephen__, dont10:40
_jasonstephen__, create symbolic links in the plugins folder to your old plugins like the wiki page explains10:40
Pygiponingru: well, it works just fine :))10:40
ubuso: ubuntu can only access what kind of packages? Only ones from the ubuntu distribution?10:40
poningrustephen__: its pretty unstable10:41
mwefreak_: I guess you can consider it a bug10:41
Mitch_OwenMonsieurBon, is that the only way? I have the two cards sitting next to me not in either computer. Can I use the ubuntu hardware manager to see the chipset if I install it into it?10:41
stephen__but... when i uninstalled it10:41
freak_mwe, does your fluxbox use menu or fluxbox-menu10:41
gnomefreakPygi, it has a crashing problem on win :(10:41
stephen__it messed up my FIREFOX10:41
Seveasubu, .deb packages10:41
poningruPygi: there are tons of bugs in 1.6 branch right now10:41
Seveasno rpms10:41
orospakrjmg, yeah, that's my problem. I want to disable it, and I can't find a system-wide asound.conf. which is really confusing.10:41
Pygifreaky: well, don't use win :P10:41
poningruwell 1.910:41
gnomefreaklol Pygi10:41
Tyrsis~[ butcherbird ] ~ I did have a problem with my wireless will that possibly fix it ?10:41
Pygiponingru: found none yet, but even if I find, I think I can deal/fix them10:41
ubuAha. deb is something different from debian?10:41
poningruyeah you can10:41
tolstoyjmg: i've some gaim beta packages.  I think you can make 'em easily enough, but I've got gaim and guifications.10:41
poningrubut how do you know if stephen__ can?10:41
mwefreak_: it uses fluxbox-menu. I guess I must have changed it and forgot about it10:41
Seveasubu, no10:41
stephen__what?10:42
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sklavhey guys were does xmms-skins install to?10:42
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gnomefreak.deb=debian10:42
Seveassklav, dpkg -L xmms-skins10:42
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Mitch_OwenMonsieurBon, I think I might be able to use this.... http://kwifimanager.sourceforge.net/10:42
Seveassklav, I guess /usr/share/xmms/something10:42
MonsieurBonMitch_Owen, if ubuntu recognizes that there is any card at all, it should show the chip. But as I said, I'm no expert. maybe someone else could help you better.10:42
gnomefreakdebian is too long for a file extention10:42
sklavThank you Seveas10:42
JoeBlowhow come sudo nano /etc/fsdisk doesnt work for me?10:42
mika0800Thorio, maybe you should make a bug report to either the Ubuntu team or kernel developers. If you do, please mention also, that 3Com Etherlink III mo0del 3c509B does not work10:42
JoeBlowbring me a empty nano thing10:42
SeveasJoeBlow, /etc/fstab, not /etc/fsdisk10:42
poningrusklav: also check .xmms/skin10:42
gnomefreakJoeBlow, try sudo gedit see if that works10:42
butcherbirdTyrsis: dont have much experience with wireless cards not lucent or such but breezy seems all around better for hardware support10:42
mwefreak_: however I think it's a bug10:42
JoeBlowseveas, way to many beer <<10:42
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PuMpErNiCkLemika0800: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/book/appd_06.html section D.6.2 might help10:43
mika0800I thing the problems are with all 2.6 -kernels. 2.4 -series kernels work just fine.10:43
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Mitch_OwenMonsieurBon, you have been a help Thank you!10:43
ubuI tried to edit my sources.list and to add dag wiers repository. But it didn't work.10:43
mirakI have a problem with pmount. After several mounts and unmounts, it just don't work anymore !!!!!10:43
SeveasJoeBlow, don't mess with essential files after having had way too many beers :)10:43
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ompaulshinobi319, join #help and see what can be done for you10:43
poningruJoeBlow: rofl10:43
narlesdoes anyone use gnome-look.org?10:43
Seveasubu, that's because he has no .deb packages as far as I can see...10:43
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TyrsisOk well I am downloading Breezey now10:43
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JoeBlowSeveas, i installed linux without swap after to many beer, and now im trying to fix it10:43
narlesi'm trying to download different themes for my gnome GUI10:43
mwemirak: does it persist after reboot, the problem?10:43
JoeBlowSeveas, i hate how it wont let u have more then 4 partitions10:43
gnomefreaknew slogan? dont drink and play10:43
sklavAwesome Seveas that did the trick10:44
freak_mwe, know where i can post this bug to the fluxbox guys?10:44
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poningruJoeBlow: jus make a logical partition10:44
PuMpErNiCkLemika0800: Or it might not.10:44
narlesdo i want to download  a GTK2.x?10:44
blueandwhiteg3JowBlow: Sounds like it's best to avoid beer and linux :)10:44
mirakmwe: no10:44
mwefreak_: it's not a fluxbox bug. it's an ubuntu bug10:44
stephen__wat should i do10:44
Seveasnarles, http://art.gnome.org/faq.php10:44
mirakmwe: I tried to restart udev for exemple but it wasn't working10:44
ompaulJoeBlow, I have 10 partitions on this box ....10:44
skonSomeone know how to only modify a specific module in Bastille?10:44
JoeBlowponingru, it wont let me in gparted10:44
ubuOK. Got it. Do have any hint where to find codecs for xine to play dvds and mpeg encoded files?10:44
JoeBlowompaul, can u help me make one then?10:45
sklavI tried ipodlinux10:45
mika0800Pumpernickle: thanks, but... I have already got so far that PINGing my lan works. But don't know how to get full network functionality. But if there is some way to force the installer to load the correct module for my NIC, then the installer would do all the necessary configuration automatically.10:45
sklavhehe10:45
sklavno bad10:45
Seveasubu, cipherfunk, /msg ubotu easysource10:45
TyrsisWhats the kernel version of Breezey ?10:45
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SeveasTyrsis, 2.6.1510:45
mika0800And, I plan to reinstall linux fromn scratch anyway.10:45
Pygifreaky: have you written it?10:45
ubuthanks Seveas!10:45
poningruJoeBlow: use an ubuntu live cd10:45
mwefreak_: bugzilla.ubuntu.com10:45
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Bevinwhich package provides /lib32/libgcc_s.so.1. ?10:45
TyrsisGreat, the other one was 6.6 or something10:45
SeveasBevin, ia32-libs I think..10:46
poningruSeveas: um I dont think thats true10:46
gnomefreakPygi, i started but i got tied up in win i will be getting back on it in near future tonight10:46
BevinSeveas: sadly, not :-(10:46
TyrsisWill breezey have the updated version of Ndiswrapper ??10:46
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usr13trying out a 5.04 install, fully updated10:46
ompaulJoeBlow, if you have had too many beers that might be a bad thing :-)10:46
mweBevin: learn to use apt-file. it will tell you10:46
poningru2.6.15 is for dapper10:46
SeveasBevin, eh, breezy has .1210:46
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Seveasdapper has .1510:46
JoeBlowompaul, but i have no swap!!!10:46
Pygifreaky: ah well :/10:46
PuMpErNiCkLemika0800: If you can access LAN services but not external ones, it might just be a DNS issue.10:46
usr13actually a friend of mine installed it on a pretty nice computer10:46
blueandwhiteg3Is it possible or reasonable to use the debian VLC nightly builds with Ubuntu? http://nightlies.videolan.org/10:46
usr13and it's nice..10:46
SeveasTyrsis, eh, breezy has .1210:46
ompaulJoeBlow, how did you manage that10:46
Seveasdapper has .1510:46
Bevinmwe: I need it, but haven't got it yet10:46
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JoeBlowompaul, i ran windows without any of that, on a gig of ram no problem, but linux just isnt doing it10:46
usr13seems to use mostly just sudo10:46
TyrsisOk well I had Horay version10:46
skonSomeone know how to only modify a specific module in Bastille?10:47
PygiHoray :))10:47
mweBevin: my apt-file can't find it, suggesting it doesn't exist in ubuntu10:47
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TyrsisSo Breezey should be up to date right ?10:47
ompaulJoeBlow, have you installed?10:47
mika0800probably either DNS or the default gateway is missing (I use NAT, so several computers, but only one visible IP from internet)10:47
poningrublueandwhiteg3: yeah you can its pretty easy10:47
SeveasBevin: sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update && apt-file search $soemthing10:47
Dreamgliderdoes anyone here use Skype ?10:47
TyrsisHoray, the laptop version10:47
mweBevin: what are you trying to do and why do you need that file?10:47
usr13I probably should just leave it that way, but he doesn't know what root password he used10:47
JoeBlowompaul, i missed it in the installin gon thisbox, i have like 100 gigs of free space but its set up strangly through many partitions, to wher ei would have like 20 2 gig partitions, and i have 80 gigs of stuff right in the middle that i just cant loose10:47
mika0800and, that means a hardware NAT device10:47
Bevinmwe: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/3.4.5/32/libgcc_s_32.so is a symlink to it10:47
Pygiyou mean Hoary I suppose?10:47
TyrsisYes Pygi10:47
mweBevin: ok ubuntu 64bit10:47
JoeBlowompaul, better do it in the morning, but how do u get more then 4 partitions, g parted wont let me10:47
mweBevin: I don't know then10:47
Bevinmwe: which makes the linker using gcc-3.4 not be able to find gcc_s_3210:47
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Dreamglideri cant hear anything when my friend calls me, where can i setup soundcard ?10:48
usr13it has a "root terminal"  and I suppose it just sudo's to root, Right?10:48
mweBevin: install apt-file and searh for it10:48
mika0800I think this whole problem is due to a bug in all 2.6 -series kernels10:48
Bevinmwe: ok, thanks10:48
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JoeBlowompaul, better do it in the morning, but how do u get more then 4 partitions, g parted wont let me10:48
JoeBlowompaul, yea its installed10:48
BevinSeveas: thanks10:48
mweBevin: you need to run sudo apt-file update before it will work though10:48
JoeBlowompaul, i have a gig of ram, so it installed fine without swap, and rather fast too10:48
poningruJoeBlow: create an extended partition10:48
PuMpErNiCkLemika0800: Could be either one.  I had a weird problem once where only one computer could access the network that somehow got fixed just by resetting the router. o_O10:49
JoeBlowponingru, using what?10:49
poningruJoeBlow: you have to make one of your current partitions an extended one10:49
Bevinmwe: yeah saveas told me so10:49
ompaulJoeBlow, fdisk and what you get are is one extented partition into which you drop a lot of others - if your that broken maybe a full reinstall from scratch might be in order10:49
sklavwhen you have 1gig of ram swap is barely used10:49
pinkisntwellI think I lost my /usr/bin/bash, i don't have it10:49
Pygifreaky: I'll read it tonight or tommorow and respond you then10:49
poningruJoeBlow: using gparted10:49
ompaulJoeBlow, wait til tomorrow10:49
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sklavbut still recommended for stability reasons i would think10:49
sklavin the off chance10:49
poningruJoeBlow: yeah dude wait till tomorow if you are drunk10:49
sklavthat it needs to swap something out of ram10:49
poningrudo some programming though its quite fun10:49
JoeBlowompaul, yea lol, i just want to find a way to keep this 80 gigs at the end, and then i can redo everything10:49
ompaulmit ein karter you can think slowly :)10:50
JoeBlowok guys, for reference, tommorrow im serving partitioning questions and advil probably10:50
TyrsisWhen I use ndiswrapper what files do I need ?10:50
mika0800is there a way to confirm what I suggest: the kernel misrecognizes the 3c509 NIC as 3c905 and load 3c905.ko when is should load 3c509.ko ... and that is why my NIC does not work in any Linux based on any 2.6 -series kernel. But it works just fine in 2.4 -kernel -based linuxes (like Knoppix 3.7, for example)10:50
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SeveasTyrsis, .sys and .inf files from the windows driver10:50
poningrumika0800: yeah lsmod | grep 3c90510:50
TyrsisOk how do I install the .sys file ?10:50
TyrsisI know how to install the .inf10:51
SeveasTyrsis, ndiswrapper -i filename.inf10:51
Seveasthat will install the .sys file too :10:51
Seveas:)10:51
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Tyrsisok coolness10:51
Tyrsisty Seveas10:51
PuMpErNiCkLemika0800: You could read the source code and see if there's a bug... :)10:51
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mika0800poningru: does that mean, that if the kernel misrecognizes my NIC as I just told, then the cmd "lsmod | grep 3c905" will produce output, otherwise not ?10:52
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poningruyes10:52
sklavmika0800, just insmod the module10:52
sklavor use autoprobe module_name10:52
poningrulsmod | grep 3c50910:52
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mika08001. Have no idea where to get it and 2. is it in C or C++ ?10:52
poningrusee if that creates something10:53
keshavi am new to ubuntu and even linux10:53
PuMpErNiCkLemika0800: A bit of both, IIRC.10:53
mwemika0800: blacklist the wrong module and manually load the right one10:53
sklavmika0800, if the module is built by the kernel it will work10:53
keshavcan anybody help me with wheres the shell10:53
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keshavwhere we can work on c++10:53
cjis there an ubuntu .deb repository that has ethereal and openvpn?10:53
sklav!openvpn10:53
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, sklav10:53
mika0800sklav: insmod? Isn't that something you can do after install. Will load the module, but then I am left doing all network configuration by hand. If there is any way to force the installer to load the correct module, then the installer will autoconfigure the network. Muc better that way!10:54
sklavmika0800, during the install do crtl+alt+F210:54
timfrostcj, both are in universe10:54
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sklavyou will get a shell10:54
sklavthen try insmod10:54
mwesomeone needs to help ubotu get rid of that annoying response :)10:54
sklavthe module10:54
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sklavmwe, its kinda funny10:55
sklav;)10:55
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mika0800why insmod? insn't modprobe better ?10:55
Mitch_OwenBugger....ubuntu is crashing!10:55
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sklavyes modprobe will work also10:55
mika0800we are talking about 2.6.10 kernel here10:55
Seveasmika0800, indeed :)10:55
Falstiuscj, I'm running openvpn on ubuntu.  Its in one of the "normal" repositories.10:55
Koruptin the forums is there a way to change the size of an image?10:55
SeveasKorupt, try #ubuntuforums10:55
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narlesguys i'm having some trouble10:56
mika0800"<mwe> mika0800: blacklist the wrong module and manually load the right one" - during the install? How ?10:56
mwenarles: then ask a question and we'll try to help10:56
sklavmika0800, if your already installed10:56
narleswhen i try to sudo tar xzf blank.tar.gz to my usr/share/themes folder10:57
sklavits easier to edit the modules.conf10:57
cafuegosklav: modprobe is far better. In fact, don't run 'isnmod'.10:57
mika0800sklaw: does the normal installer let me use Ctrl-Alt-F2 during the install? The live Ubuntu does not let me do that !10:57
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odathi everyon10:57
odate10:57
narlesit says cannot open: No such file or directory10:57
sklavmika0800, it lets me last i checked10:57
narlestar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now10:57
narlestar: Child returned status 210:57
mika0800sklaw: yes, but I plan to format the linux partition and reinstall.10:57
mwecafuego: because it fails to load dependencies?10:57
mika0800So it WILL be a new install then10:57
cafuegomwe: indeed10:57
kfragdoes anyone have a successful install of the ATI drivers?10:58
sklavi understand but haave you tried from the running system to load the proper module?10:58
skonHow do I restart the Bastille module?10:58
narlesknow how to fix this?10:58
mika0800sklaw: modules.conf is the plave for 2.4 -kernels. NOT so in 2.6 -series !10:58
mweskon: what is it?10:58
usr13I have this 5.04 system fully updated but also have 5.10 disk and wondering if there's any urgent need to reinstall or upgrade to 5.10 ?10:59
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mweskon: I haven't heard the concept restarting a module before10:59
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KoruptSeveas, I would but they aren't bothering to answer a simple question and are acting quite uncivil10:59
usr13I do notice one problem, it seems to lock up after a while, when it gets to flying toaster screensaver.10:59
poningruKorupt: what are you talking about?10:59
mika0800I tried to read some documents... if I understand correctly, using modprobe will automatically work out any dependencies modules may have on each other. insmod will not? Right ?11:00
skonmwe: it's a script that hardens system security, but I changed the config file and it doesn't change the permissions yet. i figure restarting would help, but there is only a module for the bastille firewall11:00
timfrostnarles, is blank.tar.gz in the current directory?  If not, you need to type the full path name11:00
SeveasKorupt, then ask on the forums instead of irc11:00
narleshow do i do that11:00
PuMpErNiCkLeusr13: You can upgrade if you feel like it - I prefer 5.10 to 5.04 - but there's nothing forcing you to do it.11:00
PuMpErNiCkLeusr13: And if the screensaver is a problem, you can disable it in system -> prefs -> screensaver11:00
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blueandwhiteg3poningru: You said it's easy to use the debian nightlies... I am getting all sorts of non-installable packages, dbus, libhal0, etc...11:00
usr13 PuMpErNiCkLe, can you name any specivic improvements ?11:00
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usr13or bug fixes that are significant?11:01
poningrublueandwhiteg3: I did what now?11:01
ompaulusr13, in Oct 2006 you will want to upgrade11:01
poningrublueandwhiteg3: I did no such thing11:01
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narlestimfrost, the tar.gz is on my desktop.. what kind of command should i use to extract it to the directory i'm in11:01
ompaulusr13, it is coved until oct 200611:01
poningrublueandwhiteg3: dont use debian nightlies on ubuntu11:01
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PuMpErNiCkLeusr13: Newer versions of stuff, more polish... nothing spectacularly different.11:01
poningrublueandwhiteg3: dont use any debian packages in ubuntu as a rule11:01
PuMpErNiCkLeusr13: Not like the differences between Breezy and Dapper.11:01
poningrublueandwhiteg3: there are exceptions ofcourse11:01
mweIs there a (if not complete) ubuntu hardware compatibility list?11:01
timfrostnarles, try tar xzf ~/Desktop/blank.tar.gz11:02
SeveasPuMpErNiCkLe, well, ditching hotplug is a major difference :)11:02
sklavok im out11:02
mika0800Maybe it is time to burn my Hoary = 5.04 CD. Just md5summed the .iso and it seems correct....11:02
freak_mwe, have you ever used pypanel and/or aDesklets in Fluxbox?11:02
mwefreak_: no11:02
poningru!hardware11:02
ubotufrom memory, hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport11:02
narlesok11:02
sklavSeveas, thank you for the help11:02
sklav;)11:02
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sklavcant live without the skins11:02
blueandwhiteg3"poningru: blueandwhiteg3: yeah you can its pretty easy" was sent after I asked about using the debian VLC nightly repositories... maybe you were referring to beer + linux, my earlier comment :)11:02
Seveasjeje11:02
PuMpErNiCkLeSeveas: That's for Dapper.11:02
PuMpErNiCkLeSeveas: We're talking Hoary/Breezy11:02
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Seveassklav, http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/4Humans.tgz <-- Ubuntu skin :)11:02
poningruoh doh yeah dude about beer and linux11:02
usr13Ok, just wonderdering what advantages I might incur.. but it appears to be a pretty nice system, accept for the fact that one of the screensavers seems to make it lock up... or something locks it up.11:03
usr13not sure11:03
poningrubecause I was making fun of the other guy who borked his system drinking11:03
poningruso sorry11:03
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PuMpErNiCkLeSeveas: Dapper is gonna be impressive, though - ditch hotplug, start using hardware rendering for the desktop, almost-complete ntfs support... :D11:03
Seveas!alcohol and system administration are not friends, you should not mess with system essential when drunk :)11:03
ubotuthat's too long, Seveas11:03
PygiPump: ah well :))11:03
Pygilol seveas :)11:03
narlestimfrost, thanks11:03
Seveasubotu, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr11:04
ubotuSeveas: Are you smoking crack?11:04
poningrublueandwhiteg3: sorry about that dude11:04
powderfinger!alcohol11:04
PuMpErNiCkLe!alcohol11:04
ubotupowderfinger: No idea11:04
mweponingru: have you got any idea how complete that list is? I'm looking for a digital camera and it only seems to list a handful11:04
PuMpErNiCkLe!crack11:04
ubotuThe primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.11:04
brendabeer11:04
powderfingersnap11:04
Seveas(ok bot playtime is over...)11:04
poningrumwe: not complete at all11:04
PuMpErNiCkLe!beer11:04
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PuMpErNiCkLeSWEET11:04
PygiSeveas" aj we;; "{11:04
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powderfinger!snacks11:04
Pygiah well*11:04
ubotupowderfinger: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!11:04
poningrumwe: most cameras should work in ubuntu11:04
poningru!botsnack11:04
ubotu:)11:04
powderfinger!kebab11:04
ubotupowderfinger: I don't know, could you explain it?11:04
Seveaspowderfinger, STOP11:04
powderfingerOK11:04
Pygido not abuse ubotu anymore :P11:05
poningrupowderfinger: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic11:05
mweponingru: ok. any standard it should support or something, do you know?11:05
Wenyahum.. this channel just might be a bit too busy for support...11:05
poningrumwe: hold on11:05
globecan I use apt-get to get a c compiler ?11:05
brendait works but i want a program ith borders calanders ect11:05
kameronglove: apt-get install gcc11:05
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PuMpErNiCkLeglobe: yeah - apt-get install gcc g++11:05
Pygiglobe: you should already have gcc installed11:05
sklavnot to bad Seveas but FB2 still is awesome ;)11:05
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JoeBlowok guys good night, see ya later11:05
globePygi: I dont....or at least its not in my PATH11:06
kameronnight JoeBlow11:06
PuMpErNiCkLeglobe: Plus a few other packages, but they'll be suggested when you install gcc.11:06
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sklavim out11:06
PuMpErNiCkLepeace out11:06
sklavsee u all later11:06
JoeBlowkameron, werent u trying to get cs:s working in linux?11:06
Seveassklav, bye11:06
poningrumwe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaDigitalCameras is that what you looked through?11:06
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blueandwhiteg3poningru: no problem... any suggestions for the easiest way get my hands on more recent VLC builds? The stuff is out of date on the ubuntu repository.11:06
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kameronJoeBlow, well, it's on my to do list for today, just installed latest wine, havent got to it yet11:06
Pygiglobe: what version of gcc do you want? I wouldnt reccomend 4.0 if your doing anything *serious*11:06
poningrublueandwhiteg3: I would say build it yourself11:06
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athlonwhy not gcc 4 ?11:07
JoeBlowkameron, get back to me on that man, i would love to get that working on wine, but for mostly half life 2 dm11:07
poningrublueandwhiteg3: download the latest from their servers and build it yourself11:07
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Pygiathlon: it has problems, bugs and things :/11:07
PuMpErNiCkLeathlon: There are still a few issues with it.11:07
timfrostglobe, the seed package is build-essential.  That package will pull in the compiler and associated tools11:07
JoeBlowkameron, im working on a mod for hl2 dm, always run, and different weapons, no gravity gun11:07
Pygiathlon: not really suggested for use in real development projects11:07
kameronJoeBlow, should be same install for dm and css11:07
kameronJoeBlow, nice11:07
kameronJoeBlow, i hate the grav gun11:07
JoeBlowkameron, yea, so i hope u can figure it out11:08
globePygi, honestly I dont have time to do any C programming on my own.  I am looking for something to complie expocity11:08
blueandwhiteg3poningru: hmm... sounds like fun. actually, it always is fun... not... 30 libraries to download and compile and install...11:08
JoeBlowkameron, fin in the single player, but sucks in dm11:08
poningrubrb11:08
globetimfrost, the seed package?11:08
Pygiglobe: well, you'll be better with gcc 3.411:08
mweponingru: yeah. I don't think it shows a lot though11:08
JoeBlowkameron, anyway, now im just drunk and tired, later dude11:08
kameronJoeBlow, haha, later buddy11:08
globePygi, okay, thanks.  apt-get install gcc 3.4?11:08
JoeBlowkameron, peace11:08
Pygigcc3.411:08
mweponingru: I looked at my favorite photo stores home page and couldn't find any of them11:09
timfrostglobe, build-essential is a small package that depends on the compiler and  the other essential packages for development (make, etc)11:09
Pygi!info build-essential11:10
Mitch_OwenI am trying to use ubuntus wireless config to get to the internet...but it doesnt seem to be working11:10
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Mitch_Owendoes it work with most cards? or no?11:10
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globetimfrost Okay.  does that mean that I need to apt-get build-essential in order to compile ?11:10
tolstoyMitch_Owen: I've had good luck with network-manager, though not with this ipw2200 card on this new laptop11:10
timfrostglobe, yes11:10
Pygiglobe: yup11:10
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Papoosehow do I access SWAT for Samaba?11:11
PygiSWAT = Game?11:11
Pygilol :))11:11
Pygijoking :)11:11
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blueandwhiteg3Any ideas why gnome can't burn DVDs properly? I pop a disc in, all goes well up until I'm about 20% of the way into a burn, then the disc is "done" but most of the data isn't even written.11:12
Pygiand probably u meant samba11:12
globetimfrost, thanks...its downloading right now.  Do I still need to get a compiler or does it come with one?11:12
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Pygiglobe: well, you have a compiler already11:12
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Mitch_Owentolstoy, I am using a belkin card right now, in the device manager it is showing up as a linksys card, but it looks alright. I think I set up the network-manager properly but I do not receive internet. Is there anyway to confirm I am config-ing the right card and is there a way to check the connection?11:12
Pygijust not sure which one11:12
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PygiI think 3.311:12
Pygibut that should be enough11:12
Pygi!enter11:12
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!11:12
Mitch_Owentolstoy, like the connection quality11:12
kameronpowderfinger, i don't know if you ever found that link: http://www.bay-wolf.com/utility/msd710bd.zip <--- but there's a download for it11:12
B_166-ER-X!sources11:12
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource11:12
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B_166-ER-X!easysource11:12
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ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:12
WenyaI'll try asking my question anyway...11:13
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WenyaI installed Ubuntu yesterday11:13
t_cipI've got an ATI TV Wonder tuner card. Where would I need to look to find the appropriate drivers for it?11:13
Pygi!Ati11:13
ubotuI guess ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1011:13
Wenyaand during the installation it didn't ask for root password at any point11:13
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Pygiwenya: ofcourse it did not11:13
Mitch_Owenit shouldnt11:13
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Pygiwelcome Ben11:14
WenyaI mean, it didn't ask me to set a root password11:14
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Pygiwenya: yes, it isnt supposed to ask you that...11:14
Pygiunless u use expert mode...11:14
Wenyaum..11:14
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Gookieheyyaaa all11:14
Pygiubotu tell Wenya about sudo11:14
Pygiubotu tell Wenya about gksudo11:14
Pygiubotu tell Wenya about kdesu11:14
Wenyathen what on earth was that root password before I changed it!11:14
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Pygithere was no root pass11:14
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Pygibtw. ubotu told u a few things11:15
globePygi.  Thanks for your help.  When I try an do a ./configure for this install script it says that I dont have any compilers in my $PATH11:15
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Pygiglobe: well, does it work now?11:15
dooglusI just got an error trying to cat a file: cat g ==> cat: g: Too many levels of symbolic links11:15
doogluswhere is the maximum number of symlinks set?  and what enforces it?11:15
Dasnipaappend the directory g++ is installed to in your PATH11:15
Gookieso my USB flash key wasnt "writable" by ubuntu coz it has this FAT format with windows flavour.11:15
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WenyaPygi: I tried logging in as root without password, and it didn't accept that one either11:15
] m[evilbsynaptic doesnt work with me11:16
GookieHow do I format it on ubuntu so that windows can read it too?11:16
globePygi. nope...still same msg.  do  Ihave to add the g++ (4.0, turns out) compiler path to my $PATH manually?11:16
Pygiwenya: thats understandable11:16
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timfrostPygi,  the default install doen't include a compiler or any development tools11:16
Pygiglobe: why using 4.0? it has number of problems :/11:16
_jasonubotu, tell Wenya about root11:16
Pygitimefrost: oh, yes forgot sorry :/11:16
Pygiglobe: have you apt-geted gcc?11:16
freakanyone have a good file manager/brower (like nautilus or konquerer) for FluxBox?11:16
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freakor non Desktop environment specific11:17
!lilo:*! hlieberman invites interested users to ##copyleft , a channel for discussing how to choose a "copyleft" ( http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/copyleft.html ) style license, as well as for discussion of various copyleft licenses and their interaction11:17
pinkisntwelldo I need a samba server on a windows box to be able to access it from ubuntu?11:17
dooglusI guess it must be a kernel thing11:17
timfrostglobe, has the apt-get install build-essential finished?11:17
globePygi: yep. it said "0 upgraded, "11:17
Pygiglobe: go to synaptic11:17
freakpinkisntwell, no11:17
Pygiand search for gcc11:17
globetimfrost: yep.  it said that it setup g++4.011:18
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Eleafmmm11:18
Pygiglobe: just go in synaptic11:18
] m[evilbsynaptic doesnt work11:18
pinkisntwellfreak: then why can't I access the windows box from ubuntu? it works the other way round11:18
Thoriowell incase anyones interested ive decided to give up on getting the rt8139 based NIC to work, so tomorrow im buying a new network card instead (easier and faster, time is money:) ) so to my question: whats a dirt cheap networkcard that works flawlessly with ubuntu?:)11:18
Blippemy x.org is going haywire and takes up about 50% of the process time on a 2GHz athlon with Xchat and Konqueror on, what can i do?11:18
Pygi!enter11:18
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!11:18
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freakpinkisntwell, did you setup a unrestricted shared folder on the windows box? XP doesnt do it autmoatically11:19
PapooseIs Samba Included in the latest bersion of Ubuntu?11:19
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Wenyaokay.. that is definetly weird, but good to know, that it wasn't a mistake...11:19
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BlippePapoose yes11:19
tamalegreetings fellow ubuntu users!    would anyone happen to know if some drivers that I found for my networking card (a gigabit linksys EG1032) that are for version 2.2 and 2.4 will work in my  2.6 ubuntu install?11:19
butcherbirdanyone here using openvpn? does it work well connecting using xp? reg network connections wizard?11:19
pundaiok has the most recent upgrade messed ip wireless11:19
pinkisntwellfreak: what is an unrestricted share folder? I did share some folders11:19
timfrostglobe, you should have /usr/bin/gcc as a link to /usr/bin/gcc-4.011:19
pundaiim getting "disagrees about version of symbol" messages wrt ieee stuff11:19
PapooseBlippe is it installed automatically?11:19
globePygi: okay.  is there a reason that gcc3.4 pkg cant be found in apt-get but it is listed in synaptic11:20
] m[evilbsomebody who can help me with synaptic?11:20
Pygiglobe: not sure :/11:20
Blippeno, but it is in the repos...11:20
freakpinkisntwell, by unrestricted i mean remote users have both read and write without a oassword11:20
butcherbird] m[evilb: what is the problem?11:20
_jasonglobe, gcc-3.411:20
] m[evilbit just doesnt work11:20
pinkisntwellfreak: and this isn't by default? How do I change it?11:20
freakanyone know of a file browser that is non-Desktop environment specific?11:20
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] m[evilbtotal newbie btw :)11:20
mika0800tamale: you are the 3rd person here within about 2 hours who cannot get a network card work with 2.6 -series kernel, me being one !11:20
Pygitimfrost: any particular reason why are u suggesting use of gcc4.0?11:21
globe_jason .... ooohh I suppose that woulk make all the difference11:21
freakpinkisntwell, go into properties on the file11:21
butcherbird] m[evilb: not finding packages that you need?11:21
pinkisntwellfreak: yes11:21
!lilo:*! steveb invites you to his channel, ##seo , for discussions of search engine optimization11:21
] m[evilbprogram just doesnt start11:21
freakpinkisntwell, and make sure the files that are shared are in "Sahred Documents" (for XP)11:21
BlippeFuck it, i will solve it the win way, complete reinstall!11:21
pinkisntwellfreak: and it'll work then?11:21
timfrostglobe, gcc 3.4 should be called gcc-3.4.  gcc 4.0 is the breezy defaul;t compiler, but gcc 3.4 is needed for kernel modules11:21
_jason] m[evilb, try from a terminal: gksudo synaptic.  See if you get any errors11:21
butcherbird] m[evilb: try opening a terminal and typing sudo killall synaptic11:22
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freakpinkisntwell, should, but windows is skrewy so it mgiht not11:22
Pygitimfrost: and 4.0 has issues11:22
tamalelol mika.. well, has anyone gotten this linksys gigabit adapter working in ubuntu?11:22
freakpinkisntwell, sorry :-\, windows blows.... badly11:22
saotome_very very badly11:22
Pygitamale: yes, a lot of people...11:22
tamalehey at least windows found my network adapter11:22
pinkisntwellfreak: i'm not using windows any more, my brother does11:22
saotome_i noticed how slow it actually was after a started using gnome11:22
] m[evilbcould take a while, internet also doesnt work, need to install those drivers11:22
mika0800it seems that currently 2.6 -kernels are not ready for everyone. either you need to be a linuxguru to solve all the problems or then have all the correct hardware for it...11:23
pinkisntwellall windows got going for it is that it has hardware compatibility and games. oh and gnome's slow11:23
WenyaI'll come back tomorrow and ask you about how to configure net connections :)11:23
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Wenyabut now it's time to sleep11:23
tamalewell, where should I go to get this thing working?11:23
Wenyathanks for help11:23
freakfinding a network adapter isn't too hard11:23
tamaleam i usin the wrong distro?11:23
] m[evilbits usb wireless adapter11:24
jacob_anyone install php on Ubuntu?11:24
freakbut until they make Counter-Strike and World of Warcraft for Linux, im stuck with a computer on windows XP11:24
Pygijacob: that's not a problem11:24
jacob_return to castle wolfenstein on linux rocks11:24
mika08002.4 kernels are not that troublesome with network cards. but then they may have problems with USB-IrDA...11:24
butcherbirdfreak: could be wrong but i hear both of those are running well using cedega11:24
freakjacob_, use debian if you're gonna do a PHP server, its easier and stabler11:24
Pygitamale: u can make it work anywhere actually11:24
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jacob_not on AMD64 it's not11:24
freakbutcherbird, but cedega isn't free :-\11:25
tamalepygi:  care to help instead of simply telling me it's possible? :] 11:25
jacob_PCI express is not well supported in Debian yet11:25
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freakdamn, i remember when cedega was WineX11:25
butcherbirdfreak: 5 bucks!11:25
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Pygitamale: well, I never did it :) I just told you that a lot of people made it working :)11:25
narleshow do i install an icon set11:25
globetimfrost: okay when I apt-get gcc-3.4 it says that I already have it installed.  I do see the link in /usr/bin .  However my $PATH doesnt have a c compiler still11:25
jacob_Ubuntu was the easiest to install yet, and it's Debian based11:25
freakbutcherbird, 5 bucks a month last i checked11:25
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freakDebian is my favorite distribution11:26
tamalepygi:  i realize this, but as a person with it not yet working, simply telling me it's possible does nothing but make me a little more upset11:26
freakprobably the best11:26
_jasonnarles, just open system -> preferences -> theme and drag the tar.gz file there11:26
timfrostglobe, what does 'echo $PATH' print?11:26
Thorioi love ubuntu, i run it perfectly on my laptop, but on my desktop i cant get my network card to run11:26
mika0800linux should come with a virtual machine where you could install all ms-windows drivers for all your hardware. would be a bit slower, but would make almost all hardware compatible. And, with VM's the kernel could control the security aspects no matter what the win drivers might do...11:26
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Pygitamale: huh, have you tried ndiswrapper?11:26
jacob_freak, Debian is my favorite also, but I was unable to get it to run with a 939 slot mobo, with AMD6411:26
Pygitell tamale about ndiswrapper11:26
alex_evening, all11:26
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tamalenever heard of ndiswrapper11:26
tamale<== linux semi-newb11:26
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Pygitamale, hm, do a google11:27
Pygi!ndiswrapper11:27
ubotundiswrapper is, like, totally, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper11:27
jacob_anyways.... everything is running great on Ubuntu, msyql, apache2, but I just need to install php11:27
Pygior see here :)11:27
Thoriondiswrapper could probably work, but its easier just to go out and buy a non-realtek based nic:)11:27
jacob_any php experts in here?11:27
nightwatch!hardware support11:27
ubotunightwatch: Do they come in packets of five?11:27
Pygiubotu, tell tamale about ndiswrapper11:27
tamalethis isn't wireless at all11:27
freakjacob_, 64-bit technology is sketchy with the operating systems we have right now, the only software developers who ahve outstanding stability is Macintosh(Apple)11:27
mika0800isn't ndiswrapper for network cards only. But it isn't a general way to make ANY device with windows driver to work correctly with linux !11:27
ompauljacob_, #php11:27
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nightwatch!alsa11:27
ubotumethinks alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206311:27
Pygitamale: ubotu just told you :)))11:27
bimberiubotu tell jacob_ about lamp11:27
Pygiplease use "Tell" .... THank you :))11:27
jacob_Lamp eh?11:27
alex_just a quick question - when I manually take down eth0 ( sudo ifconfig eth0 down ), it comes back up again after around a minute or so! - something sinister going on, or something being 'helpful' in the background11:27
yatesyfreak: you've gotta be kidding me, 64bit has been around for years and years :P11:27
Pygi!enter11:28
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!11:28
globetimfrost: a few directories.  /usr/bin exists in the list11:28
tamalethis isn't a wireless issue, this is a linksys PCI gigabit ethernet adapter11:28
jacob_I use a 64bit Unix which is more than 10 years old at work11:28
nightwatch!intel hda11:28
ubotunightwatch: What?11:28
Pyginightwatch: don't abuse ubotu and use tell11:28
globetimfrost: does it mean anything that when I ls gcc in /usr/bin, the link is shown in red?11:28
Pygijust pm it11:28
freakyatesy, it has, i know, but Apple is the only company i think that has awesome stability on their G5 processors, windows and linux don't do so well with it11:28
cello_raspare there any download managers that allow wildcards? I used to use "free download manager" on windows but i cant find anything as good..11:28
Thoriotamale am i guessing correctly when i guess that its realtek 8139 based?11:28
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jacob_amd64 kicks ass for heavy loads on the server11:28
powderfingertell hel11:29
tamaleThorio:  How would i know11:29
nightwatchPygi: sorry, I dont know the commands..11:29
jacob_anyways... Lamp eh?11:29
Pyginightwatch: k, np11:29
powderfingertell help11:29
bshumatefreak, i've been running 64-bit Sun Ultrasparcs with Solaris for about five years now man11:29
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Pygiyes, server has 64 bit since ages ago :)11:29
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tamalethis is a link to the product:11:29
tamalehttp://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?childpagename=US%2FLayout&packedargs=c%3DL_Product_C2%26cid%3D1115416906419&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper11:29
skonSomeone mind helping me install jre? I did exactly what it says on the wiki, and I'm able to use it via command line but it's not included in the Firefox plugins11:29
freakbshumate, thats Solaris, not linux or windows11:29
PuMpErNiCkLebshumate: Solaris is in a class of its own.11:30
bimberinightwatch: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage :)11:30
ubuntu_can linux use two swap partitions on different drives at the same time?11:30
jacob_Solaris = Unix-like O/S11:30
freakbshumate, Unix kicks ass on 64-bit11:30
mika0800I just downloaded Ubuntu 5.04... but maybe that was a mistake... Kubuntu 5.04 could be even better... or is there such a thing ?11:30
Pygiubotu tell skon about java11:30
Pygiubotu tell skon about javadebs11:30
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timfrostglobe, yes it means that the link is pointing to a non-existent file.11:30
Pygimika: why havent u downloaded kubuntu 5.10 then?11:30
nightwatchI need rebuild my alsa to get compatibility with my intel hda system sound. I read in some faq in ubuntu website how to do it, but i lost and couldn't find it...11:30
jacob_Linux can do whatever YOU can do cause it's do it yourself11:30
freakbshumate, which is what the new macintosh operating system is based upon11:30
bshumatefreak: you said, and i quote "with the operating systems we have right now" is Solaris not an operating system?11:30
Pygiubotu tell mika0800 about iso11:30
skonPygi, did you not see that I did exactly what it says on the Wiki?11:30
WildZeckjacob_, tu load apache 2 with php you need not to load php4 package but with apache2 it's name is libapache-mod-php4 or something like that ... php4 is for apache1.311:30
Thoriomika0800 if you get it to work, could you send me a /msg ?11:30
bimberimika0800: 5.10 is the latest11:30
butcherbirdskon: package name should be j2re1.4 i believe11:30
powderfingerubotu tell me about help11:30
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Pygiskon: well, it's kinda crowdy in here :P11:31
freakbshumate, ok sorry, i meant just the more popular ones11:31
jacob_Thanks WildZeck that's awesome11:31
Thoriomika0800 im guessing youre doing it due to the network card problem?11:31
] m[evilb_jason i got this error "sudo: unable to lookup kyuubi via gethostname()"11:31
globetimfrost: awesome. how do I fix the link?11:31
bshumatefreak: really? is it based on mmmmmm, say FreeBSD? that's not news to me.11:31
skonbutcherbird, Pygi, j2re1.4 package is already installed11:31
freakbshumate solaris is too expensive for most home users11:31
Pygiskon: what is the problem then?11:31
_jason] m[evilb, have your recently changed your hostname?  Check if you have any superuse priveleges at all.  Try: 'sudo echo hi'11:31
bshumatefreak: Solaris is free these days dude11:31
skonpygi: i can view applets in firefox11:31
freakbshumate, FreeBSD is not as popular as Linux11:32
skonpygi: can't*11:32
timfrostglobe, sudo ln -sf gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc11:32
Pygiskon,just a sec pls...11:32
mika0800Please do not post links to 5.10 download page! I prefer 5.04, because I want 2.6.10 kernel, not newer than that!11:32
] m[evilb_jason just installed it today11:32
Pygiskon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins11:32
nightwatchanybody here have an intel MB with HDA(audio) working???11:32
_jason] m[evilb, does 'sudo echo hi' fail with the same error11:32
skonpygi: thanks, I take a look11:32
freakbshumate, last i heard it ran on expensive as hell sun microsystems hardware, but, i dont follow up on solaris11:32
Thoriomika0800 you said earlier that your network card worked with 2.6.10 right?11:32
Pygiskon: yw11:32
skonpygi: no, that's exactly what I did already11:33
] m[evilb_jason i'm in windows now, inet doestn work yet11:33
poningru!firefoxplugins11:33
ubotuponingru: Not a clue11:33
Pygiskon: huh :/11:33
mika0800I don't want the latest kernel. I want to use 2.6.10, because I believe it is the last kernel where Kylix IDE's integrated debugger works correctly. The kernel developers changed something major after that....11:33
] m[evilb_jason but other sudo commands same error11:33
skonpygi: i already did exactly what it says on that site11:33
_jason] m[evilb, ok, so right now your ubuntu is on another partition?11:33
huhn_2punkt0Hmmm11:33
fluvvellanbody familiar with wpa_supplicant?11:33
Pygiskon: jre1.4?11:33
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] m[evilb_jason yes11:33
skonpygi: yes11:34
skonpygi: and sun java too11:34
bshumatefreak : last you heard is old news man.  solaris has run, and continues to run on cheap x86 as wel...anyways, as far as getting facts straight, i think you're a little off-base, that's all. ;-)11:34
fluvvellmy wireless goes up and down every five seconds11:34
globetimfrost, do I need to be in the directory that holds gcc-3.4 to do that?11:34
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poningru!firefoxplugins is <reply> if you want to install firefox plugins https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins, if you already have plugins installed but lost them when you upgraded to firefox 1.5 look into !firefox1.511:34
ubotuokay, poningru11:34
_jason] m[evilb, ok to minimize the amount of restarting you have to do, download 'explore2fs'.  That program will let you read your ubuntu files.  I need you to pastebin the following two files; /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname.11:34
_jasonubotu, tell ] m[evilb about pastebin11:34
nightwatchanybody here have an intel Motherboard with HDA(audio) working???11:34
tamalei can see my linksys EG1032 gigabit PCI card under "device manager", but under "Device Type" and "Capabilities" it says "Unknown"          on the Linksys site I downloaded their drivers and they have a 2.2 and 2.4 folder, but inside these folders are only .RPM's, but ubuntu doesn't seem to know what to do with these RPM files11:35
narleshow do you install gtk+engines11:35
freakbshumate, well i think you're the only person ive heard of using solaris for jack11:35
mika0800Thorio: My NIC works perfectly with 2.4.27. But with 2.6.10, the installer leaves the NIC non-working. I was able to get it to work at the wardware level, so ping works and http to LAN by IP's work also. But the public internet still does not work.11:35
skonponingru, how does that help me?11:35
_jason] m[evilb, http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm11:35
Thorioah ok11:35
Pygiponingru: !firefox1.5 doesn't exist...it's ff1.511:35
] m[evilb_jason ty11:35
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Pygiponingru: and don't use 1.5 :)) use 1.6a1 :))11:35
timfrostglobe, no.  When a symlink has no path, that means "look in the directory the link is in".  That is why the target is just gcc-3.4 not /usr/bin/gcc-3.411:35
freakanyone have a non-desktop environment specific file manager?11:35
mika0800I mean PINGing PC's on my own NAT works. PINGing any outside on the internet does not work.11:35
Thoriomika0800 ok thanks.. im gonna try to buy another network card tomorrow instead.. seems faster than waiting on a working version of ubuntu:)11:36
butcherbirdfreak: mc :)11:36
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Thorioseems like ALOT of people are having issues with 8139-based NICs though and its a pretty common chipset so they need to figure this one out fast..11:36
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timfrostmika0800, do you have a default route set?11:36
freakbutcherbird, whats mc short for?11:36
iKernelGuys, I've got a big problem. I can't use sudo. >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 19 <<<11:36
iKernelsudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 1911:36
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poningruskon: it doesnt11:36
butcherbirdfreak: midnight commander11:36
Pygithorio: you can actually make it work...11:36
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tamaleThorio:  How would I know if this card is 8139-based ?11:37
poningru!firefox1.511:37
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion11:37
bshumatefreak: and you're probably the one person i have talked to who knows the absolute least about 64-bit architectures...isn't this just fun? ;-)11:37
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mika0800timfrost: no idea what/how is that set.11:37
nightwatchwhere is the hardware compatibility list???11:37
iKernelSo I need to edit the sudoers file, but I can't get into root. Anyway to fix this apart from reinstalling?11:37
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bimberiiKernel: boot into recovery mode and use the visudo command to edit the file11:37
pundaihi has anyone used the ipw2200 driver here with ubuntu11:37
_jasoniKernel, boot with the live cd and mount the partition11:37
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Pygiponingru: ah, really, it's there now :/11:37
iKernelok thanks11:37
poningruiKernel: why cant you fix it?11:37
mika0800(sudo) apt-get install mc should work11:37
iKernelponingru: I just said why11:37
Pygiff1.511:37
Pygi!ff1.511:37
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion11:37
poningruiKernel: ignore me11:37
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tamalecan anyone just tell me if ubuntu is a bad choice for a fileserver ?11:38
Pyginow you can ask bud anything about network cards :)))11:38
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tamalei can't find any easy software raid management featuereseither11:38
freakbshumate, dude, 64bit architecture sucks right now, when microsoft gets their heads out of their asses and get longhorn(Vista) out, then64bit arch will be worth the money11:38
whyameyeIt appears that the apps I run which use the KDE library are not seeing the fonts that are available to Gnome. Is there a way to fix this? I notice especially with gpdf vs. kpdf11:38
narleshow do i install a new login graphic??11:38
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globetimfrost: thanks a million. I appreciate your patience with a linux newb.11:38
avalostgoogle gdm themes11:38
freakbshumate, but until then, most people are running their AMD 64 3500's on the 32bit version of windows11:38
mika0800well, I will soon test whether is possible during the install of ubuntu switch to another console and then do sudo modprobe 3c50911:38
WildZeckyes11:39
timfrostmika0800, are you using DHCP, or are you setting the IP address manually?11:39
insomndanybody here familiar with GAG?11:39
freakbutcherbird, know if it runs under fluxbox?11:39
bshumatefreak: you said it and it must be true! and what you're blathering on about now is OT in hear, so whatever...11:39
mika0800DHCP from my own hardware NAT firewall11:39
timfrostglobe, glad to have helped.  good luck with the compile11:39
globetimfrost: the ./configure went way past the compiler detection and now it is failing when looking for gtk+-2.011:39
powderfingerIs it possible to select DHCP during install?11:39
Pyginow who needs help with Wireless cards????11:39
tamale i can see my linksys EG1032 gigabit PCI card under "device manager", but under "Device Type" and "Capabilities" it says "Unknown"          on the Linksys site I downloaded their drivers and they have a 2.2 and 2.4 folder, but inside these folders are only .RPM's, but ubuntu doesn't seem to know what to do with these RPM files11:40
insomndi need an easy to use bootmanager that will allow me to boot from an external CD drive, that doesnt otherwise boot11:40
butcherbirdfreak: runs from console so yes11:40
mika0800Oh, and several people suggest turning off PnP from that 3c509 ISA NIC card. But cannot do that with 3com's dos utilities: thy do not work as they should!11:40
Pygibud: read what tamale said11:40
] m[evilb_jason http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d681811:40
narleshow do i install a new login graphic??11:40
freakbutcherbird, alright, thanks tons, cuz nautilus doens't agree with fluxbox11:40
insomndponingru, SBM seems perfect, however the person i am helping doesnt have linux and is not too familiar with gcc, etc.11:40
mika0800And, why is it that with 2.4.27 -kernel there is no need to turn off PnP. It works just great leaving the PnP enabled !11:40
timfrostmika0800, the NAT firewall should be advertising itself as the gateway.  Can you check its setup?11:41
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freakbshumate, does it get you off that you think you're right?11:41
iKernelBooting into recovery mode doesn't help. I'll need to boot from the live cd.11:41
powderfingerALL: Is it possible to select DHCP during install?11:41
pundainarles, gdmsetup as root11:41
ColonelPaniquehey freak, you clueless microsoft troll, how's about cracking open and chugging a forty ounce of stfu, ok?11:41
_jason] m[evilb, one sec on phone11:42
mika0800timfrost: both Winsows machines and Linux machines with 2.4 -series kernel work just fine with my NAT firewall device. It is only this 2.6 -series kernel and 3c509 network card that is the problem11:42
huhn_2punkt0fuck11:42
bshumatefreak: drop it man...it's offtopic11:42
huhn_2punkt0nothing works with this shit11:42
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mika0800And I bet that if I could somehow force the installer to recognize the NIC, that would make the installer autoconfigure the NIC just fine. That would be the best solution !11:43
bshumatesheesh, rough crowd in here on Sundays! ;-)11:43
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huhn_2punkt0wheres that guy that told me I'd do the server install and then install xubuntu?11:43
huhn_2punkt0it doesn't work at all11:43
freakColonelPanique, how am i a microsoft troll?11:43
pinkisntwellhuhn_2punkt0: what do you get?11:43
bud_huhn_2punkt0: whats the problem11:43
huhn_2punkt0well I did install the server version11:43
butcherbirdhuhn_2punkt0: waddya mean doesnt work?11:43
huhn_2punkt0but I don't get no internet connection11:44
tamale*sigh*11:44
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tamalei think i'll just go try fegora11:44
mika0800Someone told me to do server install  as well if don't want the gnome. I will install IceWm instead (limited amount of RAM)11:44
pinkisntwellhuhn_2punkt0: ubuntu starts up all right?11:44
tamalefedora11:44
huhn_2punkt0yes11:44
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_jason] m[evilb, you can fix your problem by editing your /etc/hosts file.  Change '127.0.0.1 localhost' to '127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost kyuubi'11:44
pinkisntwellhuhn_2punkt0: what internet connection do you have?11:44
Darky469lo all11:44
huhn_2punkt0dsl11:44
huhn_2punkt0the thing is it won't recognize the card11:44
timfrostglobe, apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev11:44
] m[evilb_jason tried that in ubuntu, but cant change that file11:45
Darky469anyone  has  experience  with wine ?11:45
pinkisntwellhuhn_2punkt0: what card? your network card?11:45
_jason] m[evilb, however you will need superuser access to edit it.  Since you can't get it, you'll have to boot with the live cd and mount the partition.  Then edit it.11:45
mika0800of Linuxes, I have had the best luck with Debian Sarge with 2.4.27 -kernel. But with the 2.6.8 kernel you are likely to run into problems with that too...11:45
freakanyone use aDesklets in here?11:45
globetimfrost, how does everybody know what these packages are called? is there an apt-get search function?11:45
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_jasonglobe, 'apt-get search'11:45
huhn_2punkt0sorry for being unprecise. yes my network card. I'm using a laptop which has a pluginable network card11:45
skonglobe: apt-cache search11:45
diablo69sup guys11:45
bud_globe: apt-cache search11:45
_jasonglobe,  err oops yeah what skon said11:45
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] m[evilb_jason dont have live cd11:46
pinkisntwellhuhn_2punkt0: hmmm I'm not familiar with laptops11:46
_jason] m[evilb, you can download the iso and burn it, or are you on dial-up?11:46
globenow that will come in handy! ;-)11:46
pinkisntwellhuhn_2punkt0: you can try #xubuntu and #xfce, especially the latter11:46
Darky469who knows  how  to get  windows explorer working with Wine ?11:46
tamalepygi:  I take it "bud's" not here11:46
testmachinexfce is great11:46
testmachine:)11:46
freakthat it is11:46
timfrostglobe, the search feature is 'apt-cache search'.  Libraries are generally llibxx, and the development version has -dev on the end of the name.11:46
nightwatchhi there I get my mp3 playing in amarok but no sound.. can anybody help me? my sound card is Intel HDA11:47
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bud_tamale: whats the problem11:47
mika0800Now I will see soon, whether PartitionMagic 8.0 can succesfully move and resize a linux partition or just make a big (destructive) mess of it...11:47
diablo69I was trying to install webcam drivers last night, for my creative nx webcam11:47
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diablo69and there wasn't a -r option11:47
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Pygitamale: see? he is here :)11:47
mika0800talking about ext3 here...11:47
huhn_2punkt0pinkisntwell: so far it is an ubuntu problem on the whole as I don't know how to install the network11:47
] m[evilb_jason downloading it now, hope i find an empty cd :)11:47
diablo69should I just get a logotech11:47
tamalebud_:  I can't get my linksys gigabit PCI adapter to work11:47
midwinter_jason, is he in win in which case he could edit it..11:47
bud_tamale: when you plug it, what lspci say11:48
_jasonmidwinter, he is.  I don't know how, you can explain it to him :)11:48
narleshow do i install a new login graphic with a tar.bz2 file???11:48
pinkisntwellhuhn_2punkt0: can you find a networking applet? one that lets you configure your network settings?11:48
] m[evilbtell me how midwinter11:48
bud_tamale: does lspci recognize it11:48
whyameyekpdf has font troubles?11:48
freakanyone use ADesklets?11:48
huhn_2punkt0that's the thing. its the server version of ubuntu11:48
tamalebud_:  it says "Linksys Gigabit Network Adapter (rev 10)"11:48
bud_ok11:48
pinkisntwellhuhn_2punkt0: but xfce is running right?11:48
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Darky469oke,i think nobody has any experience with wine11:49
huhn_2punkt0the laptop is too slow for gnome and kde, so I have to get an inet connection to get the xubuntu gui11:49
RedStalker_Mikei want to download all debian docs. what .deb package i must to "apt-get" :) ?11:49
pundaiDarky469, whats your problem11:49
RedStalker_Mikeneed heeelp )11:49
diablo69<--has experience with wine11:49
huhn_2punkt0so far I got nothing more than a console11:49
bud_tamale: is there kernel module for that card11:49
RedStalker_Mikei want to download all debian docs. what .deb package i must to "apt-get" :) ?11:49
diablo69but not windows explorer11:49
midwinter] m[evilb, you can access your linux partition in win right? in which case you should be able to write to that file11:49
tamalebud_:  how could i find that out11:49
diablo69I heard that if you get a logotech cam, ubuntu will support it..is this true?11:49
] m[evilbmidwinter no i cant11:49
Darky469i wanna  use  explorer  under  wine11:49
bud_tamale: do you have kernel source11:49
globehow do I add gtk-2.0 to my $PKG_CONFIG_PATH ? there is nothing in there11:49
pinkisntwellhuhn_2punkt0: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu11:50
huhn_2punkt0well11:50
mika0800poningru: you told me to use lsmod | grep 3c905 ... but hey: if the kernel tries to load that, but the machine does not have the 905 NIC, will it really load a useless module, or will that result in a failed load attempt, and if so, wouldn't that make it to not appear in lsmod ?11:50
PapooseDo if I install the latest version of Ubuntu ... Samba is not installed with it?11:50
huhn_2punkt0I read that11:50
tamalebud_:  not yet, can i install that off the ubuntu cd?11:50
pinkisntwellhuhn_2punkt0: maybe it'll help you11:50
Darky469 or a  other  brownser under  windows11:50
huhn_2punkt0It tells me I need an inet connection11:50
narleshow do i install a new login graphic with a tar.bz2 file???11:50
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bud_tamale: i think you can11:50
midwinter] m[evilb, sorry then nevermind I thought you had gone ahead and got the ext2fs driver11:50
bud_install it11:50
huhn_2punkt0but I can't get the inet connection to work11:50
huhn_2punkt0see it's a vicious circle11:50
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diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: sup man didn't see you hear11:50
diablo69here*11:50
Darky469i can use  notepad  already under wine  , but can't find  explorer11:50
PuMpErNiCkLehey diablo6911:51
PuMpErNiCkLeWup?11:51
TTiluslooks like my mail doesnt get delivered11:51
diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: Not shit you?11:51
pinkisntwellhuhn_2punkt0: so you can't install xubuntu?11:51
poningrumika0800: could have sworn the module is loaded whether or not it is useful, but you have to ask someone more knowledgable than me for confirmation11:51
TTilussudo mailq shows pretty much everything ive sent from this box11:51
Darky469pundai u have  experience  with it ?11:51
poningrumika0800: try lsmod11:51
poningrusee which modules you ahve loaded11:51
globenarles- dbl click on the tar.bz2 file to open it. Its an archive11:51
pundaiDarky469, what is your problem11:51
tamalebud_:  ok, the ubuntu cd is in, and it came up automatically11:51
] m[evilbmidwinter think i found that driver11:52
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bud_tamale: did you install kernel source of your kernel11:52
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timfrostglobe, try re-running configure.  It should find the gtk+ libraries11:52
tamalebud_:  i'm not sure, I just did a default ubuntu install11:52
diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: you busy man?11:52
huhn_2punkt0yes I can't install because in order to do so I need a working inet connection, which I dont have as it wont recognize my network card11:52
mika0800ok, I will soon boot the machine and try lsmod.... I do not know all about linux modules, but at least in windows I think that a driver module will refuse to load if a corresponding device does not exist !11:52
TTilusduring install i selected smarthost operation and gave my isp's smtp server11:52
Eleaflol11:52
globetimfrost: I did.11:52
TTilusany suggestions what could be wrong?11:53
mika0800but I will now go to that bad-luck linux box...11:53
bud_tamale: how much ethernet or wificards you have in your computer11:53
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pinkisntwelli'm not familiar with your network card... sorry i have not any experience with laptops11:53
PuMpErNiCkLediablo69: Not particularly.11:53
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tamalebud_:  just this linksys gigabit pci adapter11:53
priestIn which packages is the program "mail" in?11:53
bud_tamale: does ifcownfig see your card11:53
pinkisntwellsomeone here please help huhn_2punkt0 with his laptop network card11:53
tamalebud_:  no, ifconfig only shows lo11:54
bud_tamale: your adapter11:54
diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: man would you kow by any chance if a logotech cam is supported out of the box on ubuntu, or what cam is11:54
ColonelPaniquepriest : mailx11:54
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bud_tamale: try ifconfig -a11:54
priestColonelPanique, thanks11:54
PuMpErNiCkLediablo69: I can check...11:54
Darky469pundai, i wanna  use  a browser with  macromedia shock wave from windows in wine  , how  do i make  thgat  possible11:54
diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: thanx man, I would appreicate, my box keeps freezing when I try to start it11:54
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tamalebud_:  now i see a sit011:54
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priestColonelPanique, isn't mailx installed default in breezy?11:54
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ColonelPaniquepriest : no11:54
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tamalein addition to the lo11:54
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timfrostglobe, try 'export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/include/gtk-2.011:54
timfrost'11:54
midwinter] m[evilb, http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html by the way11:55
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priestColonelPanique, why? Is it correct that there is no mailserver either?11:55
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edoardohi gals, hi dudes : )11:55
Darky469back11:55
DelvienATI driver install to get 3d working in DAPPER = FLAWLESS right from synaptic 3d works11:55
kameronhey edoardo11:55
ColonelPaniquepriest : correctamundo...mailx and postfix were in hoary, but gone ine breezy11:55
tamalebud_:  are you getting my messages?11:55
ColonelPaniques/ine/in11:55
Pygidelvion: hehe :)11:55
Darky469pundai ?11:55
bud_tamale: yes on private11:55
Darky469u still there ?11:55
edoardoyou guys, i've got cups on two gnu/linux boxes. i would like to share printer on box a to box b. i've done this before, but forgot how to. help?11:55
] m[evilbreboot :)11:55
Delvienhow do i see my FPS?11:56
PuMpErNiCkLediablo69: http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/11:56
diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: I tried to install the creative webcam driver this morning, and the guide to do it sucked, so It wouldn't install right11:56
midwinterDelvien I am surprised if it really is flawless, would be nice though.11:56
Pygidelvien: what card?11:56
butcherbirdedoardo: well that would be super easy if ubuntu let you use the webbrowser for cups.. forget howto using gnome11:56
tamalebud_:  I don't think you're getting my private messages11:57
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ompaul!register11:57
uboturegister is, like, type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))11:57
DelvienPygi Ati Radeon mobility x300 128mb11:57
ColonelPaniquepriest : it's a pretty controversial thing, but i am not entirely sure why it was removed.11:57
bud_tamale: yes i can see11:57
globetimfrost, that command seemed to work (nothing came back).  However the ./configure still fails11:57
Delvienpygi you know how i show my FPS from glxgears? i forgot the command11:57
PuMpErNiCkLediablo69: That's hardly surprising - a lot of people give half-assed support to linux.11:57
bud_ok never mind11:57
timfrostColonelPanique, priest, there has been a lot of discussion about the absense of mailx/postfix in the mailing lists over the last month or so.11:57
Pygidelvien: huh, no sorry :/11:57
bud_tamale: is that a wifi card11:57
tamalebud_:  no, it's a wired, gigabit PCI adapter  Linksys EG103211:58
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ColonelPaniquetimfrost : yeah, tell me about it! ;-) ;-)11:58
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bud_tamale: o wired11:58
Delvienmidwinter aye, i installed it right from synaptic, and glxgears is going and going strong, just dont remember the command to show the FPS11:58
edoardobutcherbird, i remember you gotta do somethin' in cupsd.conf. what is it?11:58
pinkisntwellhow can someone setup his networking on ubuntu if he doesn't have gnome?11:58
Pygihuh, wired one?? it should work out of the box then...11:58
huhn_2punkt0pinkisntwell thanks for the help anyways11:58
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bud_tamale: do you have a linux driver maybe11:58
timfrostglobe, there may be other required development packages that are missing.  I don't know anything about the package you are trying to build, so can't help any more/11:58
bud_Pygi: yeah i think too11:58
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pinkisntwellhuhn_2punkt0: I think if you ask here or the mailing list you will get some answer11:59
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tamalebud_:  yes, i got it off the linksys site, but it says it's for 2.2 and 2.411:59
midwinterDelvien, yeah it's something long and stupid I can't remember either11:59
narleshas anyone found a replacement for my tunes redux on linux?11:59
mjbjrvisiting the ubuntu web pages, I see _tons_ of documentation on the documentation and ubuntu community, but I can't find any technical info on 5.10... what hardware is supported (particularly nic drivers), and what additional software is available.  Any got some decent links?11:59
bud_tamale: have you try googling11:59
pinkisntwellhuhn_2punkt0: you can always install normal ubuntu (with gnome) and go from there11:59
tamalebud_:  yes, no luck11:59
bud_tamale: for a 2.6 kernel driver11:59
joshuahow do i clear my Creative nano, i deleted the folders but the mp3 player only has 53 mb space and its a 256mb :( can anyone help?i used the creative cd software in windows to clean it before but i dont know an app for linux ??12:00

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