[12:01] <thestagemanager> I'm trying to make Evolution print a month view without the end times for appointments, they take up too much space in the boxes.
[12:01] <captainredbeard> hey, my dvd is having problems reading dvds and cds it burned, it won't mount them, any ideas? Its only a few weeks old
[12:02] <haasteem> antispeticx: hmm... i don't think that worked
[12:02] <antisepticx> no go
[12:02] <nickrud> Kovecses, you have stumbled upon the ultimate use of a debian based system. Someone else does the compiling :)
[12:02] <antisepticx> still getting us layout
[12:02] <Pygi> captain: use mount?
[12:03] <Kovecses> nicklas, then i installed debian sid... and couldnt get fglrx working
[12:03] <Kovecses> nicklas, then i tried ubuntu and now im golden
[12:03] <haasteem> antispeticx: yes
[12:03] <cello_rasp> what does you gnome folks use for wireless network detection?
[12:04] <Seveas> cello_rasp, network-manager
[12:04] <inventor_> can someone msg me that can help with an install using a scsi array?
[12:05] <Darky469> any news  off macromedia shockwave ?
[12:05] <nickrud> except that they'll do nothing for 64 bit, or give a darn about linux? no.
[12:05] <woodgrain> do 32 bit linux apps run on linux-64?
[12:05] <cello_rasp> seveas: is that like kismet
[12:06] <Seveas> cello_rasp, no
[12:07] <nickrud> woodgrain, not yet.
[12:07] <king-rapper> d
[12:07] <king-rapper> d
[12:07] <king-rapper> dd
[12:07] <king-rapper> d
[12:07] <king-rapper> d
[12:07] <king-rapper> d
[12:07] <king-rapper> d
[12:07] <king-rapper> d
[12:07] <nickrud> bye bye king-rapper
[12:07] <king-rapper> d
[12:07] <king-rapper> d
[12:07] <guest666> you fail
[12:07] <king-rapper> d
[12:07] <king-rapper> d
[12:07] <builder> is there a way to legally play .wmv and .mov files on Ubuntu?
[12:07] <king-rapper> d
[12:07] <king-rapper> d
[12:07] <king-rapper> d
[12:07] <king-rapper> d
[12:07] <Pygi> hey KING STOP IT
[12:07] <nickrud> !ops
[12:07] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[12:07] <mwe> Seveas: kick king-rapper please
[12:07] <BxL> !ops
[12:08] <BxL> duh
[12:08] <BxL> too late.
[12:08] <ace> okay...it says.........change your repositories...in snyaptic package manager..how do i do it?
[12:08] <builder> I have windows mounted as a partition under /media/windows
[12:08] <nickrud> lol, I type faster, nya nya
[12:08] <Pygi> thanks Amaranth
[12:08] <ZiX_> i blah to your blah :}
[12:08] <ZiX_> hi Amaranth :o
[12:08] <Amaranth> hi
[12:08] <ZiX_> hoi Seveas
[12:08] <goog> ace: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:09] <ace> thx
[12:09] <Nogimics> Can someone help me? I am a linux n00b and trying to move 1 file to another dir in command
[12:09] <nickrud> builder, if it's legal where you live , http:/wiki.ubuntu.com/RestricedFornats
[12:09] <nickrud> builder, if it's legal where you live , http:/wiki.ubuntu.com/RestricedFormats
[12:09] <Aggro-berlin_4ev> all in /server irc-deepzone.de
[12:09] <marwal> try "mv"
[12:09] <Nogimics> Whats the syntax pls?
[12:09] <Aggro-berlin_4ev> all in /server irc-deepzone.de
[12:09] <Aggro-berlin_4ev> all in /server irc-deepzone.de
[12:09] <Aggro-berlin_4ev> all in /server irc-deepzone.de
[12:09] <Aggro-berlin_4ev> all in /server irc-deepzone.de
[12:09] <Aggro-berlin_4ev> all in /server irc-deepzone.de
[12:09] <Aggro-berlin_4ev> all in /server irc-deepzone.de
[12:09] <Aggro-berlin_4ev> all in /server irc-deepzone.de
[12:09] <Aggro-berlin_4ev> all in /server irc-deepzone.de
[12:09] <BxL> !ops
[12:09] <Aggro-berlin_4ev> all in /server irc-deepzone.de
[12:09] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[12:09] <Aggro-berlin_4ev> all in /server irc-deepzone.de
[12:09] <Aggro-berlin_4ev> all in /server irc-deepzone.de
[12:09] <tr011> hi, somebody knows how can i to do the mozilla-mplayer plugin work? i have it all ready installed
[12:09] <Aggro-berlin_4ev> all in /server irc-deepzone.de
[12:09] <Seveas> ugh
[12:09] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[12:10] <Nogimics> Marwal I keep trying mv but I must be messing somehting up
[12:10] <BxL> ubotu is cool
[12:10] <ubotu> BxL: Not a clue
[12:10] <BxL> haha
[12:10] <Amaranth> they always come when i'm eating :P
[12:10] <meshe> is it the time of day for spammers?
[12:10] <Chousuke> ;/
[12:10] <Chousuke> Spammers suck.
[12:10] <Seveas> Amaranth, hehe same here
[12:10] <Seveas> Chousuke, vacuum cleaners suck too
[12:11] <lucasvo> yeah
[12:11] <marwal> mv path another_path
[12:11] <johanbr> Hi. Does anyone have any idea why my custom-built kernels fail to boot? I'm suspecting some initrd breakage.
[12:11] <Seveas> johanbr, jeez, don't give too much info.... :/
[12:11] <nickrud> johanbr, well, that's a good place to start, anyway
[12:11] <goog> i finished installing ubuntu about 5 minutes ago and its already crashing
[12:12] <Seveas> goog, ouch :/
[12:12] <lucasvo> goog: what is crashing?
[12:12] <mikelinux> ubuntu-es
[12:12] <Berg> hi
[12:12] <goog> i went to place > network servers
[12:12] <goog> and now the panel is frozen
[12:12] <bina> hi, is it safe to make the size of /dev/shm bigger by default?  Also, how do you do it?
[12:12] <Chousuke> Seveas: Yeah. In some cases they also blow and are generally full of trash!
[12:12] <johanbr> Okay. I've installed the linux-source-2.6.15 package. I compile the kernel with "make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image" and get a deb, which I install. I reboot and choose that kernel from the grub menu. The screen goes dark and nothing happens.
[12:12] <Seveas> Chousuke, roflol :)
[12:12] <haasteem> antisepticx: i found somewhere it should be ca(fr) in breezy
[12:13] <Seveas> johanbr, boot with single and without quiet as parameters, that should at least say sometin
[12:13] <haasteem> antisepticx: i will try a logout/login
[12:13] <goog> i also can't right-click on the desktop anymore..
[12:14] <Berg> I have partition magic now
[12:14] <Darky469> someone  knows  a  solution for  using macromedia shockwave player ?
[12:14] <johanbr> Seveas: Thanks, I'll give that a shot. I'm off to reboot...
[12:14] <meshe> goog: ctrl-alt-backspace
[12:14] <meshe> whoops, too late
[12:14] <Kovecses> Darky469, install wine and get the windows version of firefox
[12:14] <Seveas> Darky469, yes, use windows
[12:14] <nickrud> Darky469, there is no shockwave player for linux. period.
[12:14] <Seveas> shockwave in wine is a no-go
[12:15] <Kovecses> Seveas, works for me
[12:15] <Seveas> Kovecses, that's new..
[12:15] <Kovecses> Darky469, install vm ware
[12:15] <Seveas> but semi-good to hear
[12:15] <Sapentis> heya
[12:15] <cornflake> does anyone know if dapper is stable yet?
[12:15] <Seveas> !dapper
[12:15] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[12:15] <lucasvo> cornflake: no it is not
[12:15] <Darky469> oke  so if i use  wine  i can use  the windows version of  firefox ?
[12:15] <Kovecses> Seveas, well I havent tried in on ubuntu yet ... worked when i was on gentoo
[12:15] <lucasvo> cornflake: but one can use it
[12:15] <lucasvo> if one doesn't need Firefox downloadwindow... :P
[12:16] <Sapentis> Seveas, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[12:16] <lucasvo> when will that bug be fixed?
[12:16] <Pygi> cornflake: define "stable"
[12:16] <cornflake> lucasvo, i did... too bad i couldn't downgrade my system so i had to back up and reinstall
[12:17] <lucasvo> a friend of mine just did a downgrade :D
[12:17] <lucasvo> and it worked
[12:17] <iKernel> Hi there. When running a game as a normal user, when the sound intializes, I get the following error: /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy Could not open /dev/dsp
[12:17] <Seveas> Sapentis, Breezy+some backports I made
[12:17] <Sapentis> Seveas, nice.
[12:17] <lucasvo> what is a backport?
[12:17] <iKernel> Other than that, the game runs fine. However, when running the game as root, the sound works. What could be wrong?
[12:17] <iKernel> lucasvo: www.google.com define: backport
[12:18] <cornflake> personally, i just want the latest stable packages
[12:18] <kameron> lucasvo: bakcporting is taking some things from dapper and porting them to breezy
[12:18] <cornflake> !soundserver
[12:18] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, cornflake
[12:18] <lucasvo> kameron: aha
[12:18] <_null> how can I remove all packages which I installed from a custom repo?
[12:18] <cornflake> !esd
[12:18] <meshe> run game as root *shiver*
[12:18] <dutch> iKernal..make sure nothing else is trying to use the sound card....
[12:18] <Seveas> lucasvo, a backport in this case is a dapper package compiled on breezy
[12:18] <lucasvo> iKernel: you need to add the user to the audio group or something like this :D
[12:18] <lucasvo> Seveas: what backports are you using?
[12:19] <Pygi> do not use backports if you don't know what you are doin'
[12:19] <iKernel> lucasvo: I hadn't thought of that. But you see, audio DOES play as a general rule, but I will try...
[12:19] <Seveas> lucasvo, tex, gnome-bluetooth, ntfsprogs (write support!)
[12:19] <lucasvo> iKernel: this game is using the hardware directly not through ESD
[12:19] <lucasvo> or some other sounddaemon
[12:20] <iKernel> lucasvo: Not too sure...
[12:21] <lucasvo> iKernel: /dev/dsp is the hardware
[12:21] <lucasvo> gnome for e.g. is using ESD which runs under root
[12:21] <lucasvo> so it may use the hardware
[12:21] <lucasvo> afaik
[12:21] <lucasvo> Seveas: why do you need ntfs?
[12:21] <iKernel> lucasvo: So I should try adding my user to the esd group?
[12:22] <lucasvo> iKernel: I am not sure about that, it is some other group
[12:22] <iKernel> Seveas: Don't ever, EVER, EVER write to an ntfs partition under linux.
[12:22] <kameron> Seveas: how is ntfssprogs working for you???
[12:22] <McGyver^> hi to everybody
[12:22] <corresponder> hi
[12:22] <Seveas> iKernel, ghe, libntfs actually works nice :)
[12:22] <borisattva> after installing kubuntu-desktop when i load firefox i get /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html cannot be found, even though synaptics did nto mention of anything being removed for kubuntu
[12:22] <mikelinux> ntfs?
[12:22] <Seveas> kameron, ntfs-fuse
[12:23] <Seveas> it's still experimental and may break things
[12:23] <kameron> Seveas:... what? i was looking for like a "good" or "bad" response?
[12:23] <Seveas> but I don't really care
[12:23] <mikelinux> install windows on fat 32
[12:23] <Kovecses> borisattva, just change your home page
[12:23] <Seveas> kameron, ah, so far good
[12:23] <Kovecses> borisattva, error will go away
[12:23] <Seveas> kameron, but I won't recommend it if your data is valuable :)
[12:23] <kameron> Seveas: i'll have to try it out
[12:23] <lucasvo> Kovecses: but it is still a bug
[12:23] <woodgrain> how do I add a searchpath to my $PATH?
[12:23] <kameron> Seveas: nah, i wouldn't mess around with anything important.
[12:23] <jorik> use shhfs :-)
[12:23] <iKernel> Seveas: I heard that microsoft made some changes to the ntfs file system that makes it so that your ntfs security becomes courrputed if you write to ntfs under linux.
[12:23] <lucasvo> woodgrain: what searchpath?
[12:24] <Kovecses> lucasvo, been like that ever since 4.10
[12:24] <lucasvo> Kovecses: aha
[12:24] <Kovecses> lucasvo, i mean 5.04
[12:24] <woodgrain> lucasvo, /usr/share for example
[12:24] <Seveas> iKernel, "ntfs security"... now there's an oxymoron...
[12:24] <borisattva> kovecses: i figured as much, but why was it necessary to remove it in the 1st place, any idea?
[12:24] <lucasvo> woodgrain: export PATH=$PAHT:/usr/share
[12:24] <iKernel> Seveas: yeah I know... But it's better than fat32
[12:24] <woodgrain> lucasvo,  how do I see what's in my path??  WHere does PATH live??
[12:24] <lucasvo> woodgrain: print_env
[12:24] <Seveas> woodgrain, in memory :)
[12:25] <Seveas> it is set by bash and gdm
[12:25] <nickrud> woodgrain, env | sort is your friend
[12:25] <lucasvo> woodgrain: or printenv I don't know
[12:25] <mikelinux> iKernel Seveas: I heard that microsoft made some changes to the ntfs file system that makes it so that your ntfs security becomes courrputed if you write to ntfs under linux...............true , true
[12:25] <Kovecses> borisattva, its still there i just think the path is wrong
[12:25] <woodgrain> Seveas,  can't I open it with emacs somewhere and see what's in it?
[12:25] <mikelinux> sd
[12:25] <Seveas> woodgrain, no
[12:25] <jared> how can I download the track information for my cd before I rip it?
[12:25] <Seveas> woodgrain, echo $PATH
[12:25] <Seveas> then you see what's in it :)
[12:25] <woodgrain> nickrud, what' env pipe sort?
[12:25] <borisattva> thanks
[12:25] <thegladiator>  can i adjust the services that are intializd during boot up?
[12:25] <Kovecses> !why is k3b not in etch
[12:25] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, Kovecses
[12:25] <Kovecses> oops
[12:25] <mwe> thegladiator: sure
[12:25] <Kovecses> wrong channel
[12:25] <Seveas> thegladiator, system -> admin -> services
[12:25] <thegladiator> how ?
[12:26] <Seveas> Kovecses, -EDEBIAN :p
[12:26] <iKernel> mikelinux: I don't think it's a problem if you copy files from ntfs though. I never experianced many issues...
[12:26] <nickrud> woodgrain, env will print to the screen all of the evironment variables that are active; sort just puts them in a readable format
[12:26] <bina> jared: grip will download the track titles etc automatically I think
[12:26] <mwe> thegladiator: what do you wanna do? for enabling or disabling them look into update-rc.d
[12:26] <psycode> I'm having a problem with some realplay videos, i can move forward... any ideas what that is?
[12:26] <psycode> cant*
[12:26] <jared> bina: will sound juicer do it?
[12:26] <woodgrain> nickrud, can I redirect it to a file ?
[12:26] <Pygi> huh, that's a realplay issue, not ubuntu actually :/
[12:27] <Pygi> probably*
[12:27] <nickrud> woodgrain, env | sort > file
[12:27] <jader_> Hello all, can somebody tell me how can i log in a terminal with the user "root" ??
[12:27] <psycode> Pygi, the thing is, it wasn't always like this.. used to work :\
[12:27] <thegladiator> mwe, i need to remove the clock synchronizing feature ...where it connects to ntp.ubuntulinux.org
[12:27] <gnomefreak> jader_, sudo
[12:27] <woodgrain> nickrud,  yeah, damn!! THanks for the knowhowto.!
[12:27] <lucasvo> jader_: login with your user, than use sudo su
[12:27] <bina> jared: I've never used sound juicer.  I imagine it will.  Sorry
[12:27] <thegladiator> my machine is not conencted during boot
[12:27] <stgraber> jader_: open a terminal and the type : sudo su -
[12:27] <thegladiator> it gets connected after I run a small scrip
[12:27] <jared> bina: tanks
[12:27] <stgraber> jader_: enter your user password and you will be root
[12:28] <jader_> thanks!!
[12:28] <gnomefreak> <<perfers sudo -i
[12:28] <mwe> thegladiator: sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove
[12:28] <jader_> i were not able to do #su -
[12:28] <iKernel> lucasvo: My user is already in the audio group.
[12:28] <rudiz> thegladiator, system>admin>services
[12:28] <thegladiator> thanks i will try that
[12:28] <iKernel> jader_: Type in sudo -s
[12:28] <mikelinux> iKernel mikelinux: I don't think it's a problem if you copy files from ntfs though. I never experianced many issues.... and from reiserfs to ntfs?
[12:29] <iKernel> jader_: When it asks for the password, enter in your user account's password.
[12:29] <woodgrain> nickrud, so env prints my environment variables -- I can't edit this rihgt?
[12:29] <jader_> ok, i got it
[12:29] <jader_> thanks
[12:29] <woodgrain> nickrud, just to see what set to what?
[12:29] <iKernel> mikelinux: No idea.
[12:29] <nickrud> woodgrain, sure you can. for example : export MYENV=whatisiswhatis ; env | sort
[12:29] <mwe> woodgrain: /etc/environment or /etc/profile or ~/.bashrs, export VAR=value
[12:30] <psycode> how did you guys install realplayer? i might have done it wrong...
[12:30] <iKernel> mikelinux: I have copied a file or two from an ext3 partition using LTOOLS on windows...
[12:30] <woodgrain> mwe,  did you meand bashrc??
[12:30] <mwe> woodgrain: though you'd leave out export in /etc/environment
[12:30] <nickrud> woodgrain, you can alter any environment variable to suit yourself
[12:30] <kameron> woodgrain: pdv is lengthly, to just see your path, try: echo $PATH
[12:30] <tafsen> How do I turn of Nautilus drawing the desktop?
[12:30] <mwe> woodgrain: no ~/.bashrc
[12:30] <mwe> woodgrain: it means /home/<user>/.bashrc
[12:30] <iKernel> pyscode: ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[12:31] <iKernel> bah, I'll just play et as root.
[12:31] <woodgrain> mwe,  yeah but you said bashrs so I was confused
[12:31] <mwe> woodgrain: really? well that was a typo then, sorry
[12:31] <nickrud> woodgrain, the most likely place to put your own env variable is .bashrc
[12:32] <oKtosiTe> tafsen: --no-desktop ?
[12:32] <saik0> Is there an OOo IRC channel for user question (non-devel stuff)
[12:33] <woodgrain> nickrud,  so I can edit my personal .bashrc file to add a path to the $PATH?
[12:33] <tafsen> what is the command for the gnome configureing tool?
[12:33] <woodgrain> mwe, I checked etc/environment and etc/profile ... these dirs don't exist -- is this okay?
[12:34] <Seveas> tafsen, gconf-editor perhaps?
[12:34] <mwe> woodgrain: export PATH="$PATH":/some/additional/path
[12:34] <woodgrain> mwe, I do have a .bashrc though
[12:34] <mwe> woodgrain: you wanna do this just for your user or systemwide?
[12:34] <woodgrain> mwe,  I can't edit the bashrc to do the same?
[12:34] <kameron> tafsen: gnome-control-center
[12:34] <oKtosiTe> tafsen: what are you trying to do?
[12:34] <woodgrain> mwe,  what's the diff between sys-wide and just me_user
[12:35] <nase> !libsdl
[12:35] <ubotu> nase: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:35] <nase> where can i get libsdl
[12:35] <jared> bina: it doesn't see my disk. What should it be set to on ubuntu /dev/cdrom ?
[12:35] <mwe> woodgrain: the difference is if you login as a different user it wont have any effect if it's only done for you
[12:35] <Pygi> nase: apt-get?
[12:35] <nase> Pygi, tried it..
[12:35] <woodgrain> mwe,  when I export PATH="$blahblah  does it overwrite or append?
[12:35] <nase> i tried "libsdl" but that didnt work
[12:35] <nase> no packages..
[12:35] <mwe> woodgrain: overwrites
[12:35] <Pygi> nase: try just sdl
[12:36] <nase> nope
[12:36] <mwe> woodgrain: export PATH="$PATH":/extra/path
[12:36] <nase> that too doesnt work
[12:36] <crimsun> nase: do you need to compile something that requires sdl?
[12:36] <woodgrain> mwe, how do I add a path to $PATH if it overwrites what was there?
[12:36] <nase> crimsun, yes
[12:36] <mwe> woodgrain: export PATH="$PATH":/extra/path
[12:36] <crimsun> nase: libsdl1.2-dev
[12:36] <mwe> woodgrain: note the PATH="$PATH" it prepends the existing path
[12:36] <nase> k
[12:37] <nickrud> woodgrain, you need to read up on login and interactive shells; but in general, what you've said is basically correct
[12:37] <woodgrain> mwe, don't understand thought you said it overwrites?
[12:37] <mwe> woodgrain: note the PATH="$PATH" it prepends the existing path
[12:37] <woodgrain> nickrud,  I'm using bash is this right?
[12:37] <mwe> woodgrain: like I said
[12:37] <nickrud> woodgrain, yes
[12:37] <made> hello all..
[12:38] <kameron> woodgrain: you can just edit /home/user/.bash_profile that's what i generally to do add to my path
[12:38] <tafsen> oKtosiTe, Im trying to make nautilus stop drawing the desktop so I can se the OpenBOX menu.
[12:38] <mwe> woodgrain: PATH=/some/path overwrites. PATH="$PATH":/some/path prepends the old path
[12:38] <made> I have a question for troubleshooting
[12:38] <gnomefreak> it works :)
[12:38] <kameron> woodgrain: doing either what mwe or i said will both work
[12:38] <nickrud> login read /etc/profile, and <home>/.bash_profile; interactive reads /etc/bashrc and .bashrc
[12:38] <C-O-L-T>  how can i disable all my iptables?
[12:39] <made> I'm trying to install gstreamer0.8-mad in terminal
[12:39] <woodgrain> nickrud,  is etc/profile the systemwide .bashrc equivalent/
[12:39] <woodgrain> kameron, thanks that's really helpful@!
[12:39] <nickrud> woodgrain, no, it's not that simple (I wish it was)
[12:39] <ULffuntu> hi, is there anyway in linux to do a mass search/replace on a folder full of m3u files?
[12:39] <mwe> nickrud: and .bash_profile is set to source .bashrc by default so putting it bashrc makes sure it's set either way, right?
[12:39] <kameron> Ulffuntu: there sure is
[12:40] <theine> made, go on...
[12:40] <made> it askes me to insert the ubuntu disk and then I do. but when I put the dvd in it reads the disk and the icon shows up on the desktop
[12:40] <kameron> Ulffuntu: try: locate *m3u
[12:40] <woodgrain> kameron, what's the best way to learn about makefiles?
[12:40] <nickrud> mwe, I always put stuff in .bashrc so I don't have to think about it, yes :)
[12:40] <made> but I hit enter to continue the installation and it still asks me to insert the disk
[12:40] <made> as if it isn't seeing my disk
[12:40] <kameron> woodgrain: i don't know what you mean?
[12:40] <nickrud> and that brings up the subject of .gnomerc , for those that are following along
[12:40] <woodgrain> kameron, "make" configuration files for compiling sources.
[12:41] <kameron> woodgrain: you want to read up on the process of compiling, etc?
[12:41] <kameron> !compile
[12:41] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[12:41] <Pygi> use gcc for compiling :P
[12:41] <erUSUL> ULffuntu, for file in `ls *.m3u` do sed -e s/string/string/ $file; done or something like that....
[12:42] <ULffuntu> erUSUL: I'm copying that down
[12:42] <made> does anybody sugges anything for my issue?
[12:42] <mwe> erUSUL: don't you need sed -i ?
[12:42] <jean> hi
[12:42] <jean> does a fan on a heatsink bow air away from the heatsink or toward?
[12:42] <jean> blow air away
[12:42] <jean> ?
[12:42] <crimsun> toward
[12:43] <ilba7r> anyone using evolution know if it is supporting automatic reply
[12:43] <erUSUL> mwe, ULffuntu it was from memory i'm not sure of the exact syntax
[12:43] <kameron> Ulffuntu: locate *m3u should be sufficient
[12:43] <mwe> you need sed -i to replace in files
[12:43] <D1> how much difference would going 1gb from 512 be?
[12:43] <theine> made, gstreamer0.8-mad probably isn't contained on the CD...
[12:43] <kameron> ohh, search and replace.
[12:43] <mwe> D1: 50% :)
[12:43] <erUSUL> mwe, is sed -e 's/str/str/'
[12:44] <crimsun> D1: it'd make considerable difference when running multiple apps in GNOME
[12:44] <jean> is a fan on a heatsink supposed to blow air toward or away from the heatsink
[12:44] <D1> hmm
[12:44] <Dreamglider> can anyone help me install java
[12:44] <mwe> erUSUL: what's that?
[12:44] <oKtosiTe> ilba7r: if it does, make sure it doesn't auto-reply to spam. My dad now gets about 150 spam messages everyday thanks to an autoresponder he set up.
[12:44] <crimsun> jean: I just answered that.
[12:44] <spacey_ki> jean, to
[12:44] <made> so should I remove the ubuntu cd from my repositories?
[12:44] <erUSUL> mwe i thought that ULffuntu want to replace a word in every file of a dir
[12:44] <kameron> jean: TOWARDS
[12:44] <mwe> erUSUL: it will replace something in a string but to replace something in a file you need sed -i
[12:44] <ilba7r> oKtosiTe, thanx for the hint
[12:44] <ULffuntu> erUSUL: yeah, what happened was my mp3s switched partitions
[12:44] <jean> air goes to heatsink
[12:45] <oKtosiTe> ilba7r: ;-)
[12:45] <kameron> jean, yes
[12:45] <Inf3ctedFx> hey guys question: if I want to connect remotly to annother ubuntu box using ssh just typing ssh blabla@ip.com?
[12:45] <ULffuntu> erUSUL: so Z:/ goes to G:/
[12:45] <mwe> ULffuntu: use sed -i or it wont do what you want I think
[12:45] <theine> made, please post your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[12:45] <nickrud> jean, towards, unless the instruction say otherwise (you never know with some manufacturers)
[12:45] <kameron> inf3ctedfx: no .com generally
[12:45] <ilba7r> D1, i have a 1gb here do not see any difference but i run light weight wm and do not have mem intensive appl
[12:45] <gnomefreak> isnt it ssh -x
[12:45] <Inf3ctedFx> I mean the IP address kameron
[12:45] <kameron> inf3ctedfx: yeah
[12:45] <Inf3ctedFx> just the ip withount .com
[12:45] <gnomefreak> ssh -X
[12:46] <crimsun> gnomefreak: only if you want to tunnel the remote [gui]  application
[12:46] <jean> how does a heat sink work then
[12:46] <jean> nickrud: this isnt even for a cpu...its a watercooler
[12:46] <spacey_ki> Inf3ctedFx, either the hostname OR the IP address
[12:46] <gnomefreak> X lags big time under ssh
[12:46] <Inf3ctedFx> oks how about on the GUI enviroment? can I use the Terminal Server Client?
[12:46] <ilba7r> D1, so long you do not use the swap they are basically the same 512 and 1gb
[12:46] <crimsun> gnomefreak: you should be using vnc tunneled through ssh, then.
[12:46] <woodgrain> kameron, should I edit my .bashrc or my etc/profile to get more paths included in PATH?
[12:46] <kameron> jean: a heatsink is made of a heat conductive material that draws heat away from a device (cpu, etc). blowing on that with a fan helps disappate heat.
[12:46] <nickrud> jean, then, read your instructions, except: think where will the heat go, and the fastest.
[12:47] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhh ok i only sshed once and i used -X didnt know any better
[12:47] <kameron> woodgrain: edit /home/user/.bash_profile
[12:47] <crimsun> woodgrain: ~/.bashrc
[12:47] <jean> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heatsink
[12:47] <kameron> eh, i do .bash_profile crimsun
[12:47] <theine> woodgrain, better edit ~/.gnomerc and modify your path there (if you're using gnome that is...)
[12:47] <crimsun> kameron: ~/.bash_profile isn't sourced for non-login shells
[12:47] <woodgrain> crimsun, but would emacsing up my etc/profile isn't smart?  Why?
[12:47] <kameron> crimsun: what?
[12:47] <mwe> kameron: that will only work for login shells
[12:48] <nickrud> lol, /etc/bashrc for everyone, .bashrc for you, and .gnomerc for you in gnome
[12:48] <Thunderguy> I was playing my media player xmms, then all of a sudden it locked up so I killed it with the gnome-kill app, and the process wouldn't die on me so I kept killing the process until it was gone, afterwards upon restarting it still won't play saying that it is unable to output to my audio, my audio output is set to Alsa, after some fiddling around X locked up so I restarted it with ctrl-alt-backspace upon reloading the GDM login screen was
[12:48] <kameron> mwe, crimsun, what's a non login shell, what do you mean?
[12:48] <crimsun> woodgrain: because it's not a good idea to muck with system conffiles unless necessary.
[12:48] <woodgrain> theine,  I'm in bash though, through gnome, but still bash ... does gnomerc do the smae thign?
[12:48] <Pygi> !patience
[12:48] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[12:48] <_null> how can I remove all packages which I installed from a custom repo?
[12:48] <woodgrain> crimsun,  yeah, i appreciate that logic, thx.
[12:48] <mwe> kameron: .bashrc is sourced from .bash_profile by default making sure it's read in either case
[12:48] <made> what is #flood    .. I'm new to irc as well..
[12:48] <kameron> made: it's a place where people post excessive lines for others to read
[12:48] <gnomefreak> made, type /join #flood
[12:48] <jader_> can somebody tell me if the default ubuntu installation comes with and cd/dvd burner??
[12:49] <gnomefreak> later all
[12:49] <kameron> made: so it doesn't clog up other channels, like this one
[12:49] <kameron> jader_: it does
[12:49] <Seveas> jader_, nautilus can burn to cd, so yes
[12:49] <kameron> gnomefreak: lates
[12:49] <theine> woodgrain, yes, the difference is that if you don't set your path in ~/.gnomerc, the Gnome environment is not aware of it
[12:49] <made> ok
[12:49] <Pygi> freaky: bye
[12:49] <jader_> thanks
[12:49] <Pygi> freaky: answer my mail :P
[12:49] <Inf3ctedFx> there is any way to access to another linux pc using the Terminal Server Client?
[12:49] <kameron> mwe: okay, what is a non login shell though? i don't get that.
[12:50] <made> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[12:50] <kameron> mwe: and if .bashrc is sourced from .bash_profile shouldn't you edit profile?
[12:50] <woodgrain> theine, is it normal to edit .gnomerc?
[12:50] <spacey_ki> Inf3ctedFx, not the same one as windows, but you can use FreeNX
[12:50] <nickrud> kameron, a login shell is where you have to enter your password; any other shell you do not (as I understand it)
[12:50] <kameron> made: sudo <command> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:50] <made> ok hehe
[12:50] <Inf3ctedFx> FreeNX?
[12:50] <theine> woodgrain, I do it
[12:50] <crimsun> kameron: ~/.bash_profile isn't always read.
[12:50] <kameron> nickrud: what sort of shell can you use that doesn't require a password?
[12:50] <mwe> kameron: one running under your current login
[12:50] <woodgrain> theine, what is a good edit you do yourself/
[12:51] <nickrud> kameron, gnome-terminal is an example of a non-login shell
[12:51] <made> what should the command be?
[12:51] <Barry_even> How do you install files to a palm?
[12:51] <nickrud> from the app menu, that is
[12:51] <corypho> hello
[12:51] <ULffuntu> hola
[12:51] <made> sorry for my noobishness
[12:51] <corypho> i have a problem with ubuntu..can anyone help me?
[12:51] <kameron> nickrud, crimsun, mwe: really? so if i add something to my path in ~/.bash_profile, and open up gnome-terminal and try to execute it from a diff directory, it won't happen?
[12:51] <theine> woodgrain, export PATH=${PATH}:${HOME}/bin
[12:52] <theine> woodgrain, that's handy
[12:52] <woodgrain> nickrud, what's gnome-terminal is it a real schell?
[12:52] <lucasvo> corypho: ask a intelligent question... what's the problem
[12:52] <mwe> kameron: by default, I believe so
[12:52] <zorak> anyone know of a way to increase your mouse's scroll whell speed?
[12:52] <mwe> kameron: you can change resources and shorcuts to change it though
[12:52] <kameron> zorak: if you're in gnome, open gnome-control-center
[12:52] <woodgrain> theine, that adds /bin to both path and home?
[12:52] <kameron> mwe: that's strange, because i've _always_ edited .bash_profile to change my path, and never ever had it not read by gnome-terminal or konsole, etc.
[12:52] <Barry_even> anyone snyc their palm with ubuntu?
[12:53] <zorak> thanks kameron
[12:53] <kameron> zorak: werd
[12:53] <theine> woodgrain, no, that adds /home/<user>/bin to PATH
[12:53] <woodgrain> Barry_even,  I sunk my palm in a river once.
[12:53] <made> I would like to sync my ppc with unbuntu.. but that's another story
[12:53] <ULffuntu> made: are you ubuntu ppc?
[12:53] <ilba7r> kameron you need to change the path in .bashrc not bash_profile
[12:53] <ilba7r> there is discussion on the forum on that
[12:53] <woodgrain> theine,  if I'm going to write some binaries, should I put them in /home/user/bin or in a more systemwide place?
[12:53] <kameron> woodgrain: you've synched your palm to the bottom of a river, but what about to linux?
[12:54] <nickrud> woodgrain, it's not obvious, but it's simple. the best thing I could suggest is setting variables in /etc/profile, /etc/bashrc, ~/.bash_profile, and ~/.bashrc, and try logging into virtual consoles and gnome-terminals, and see what is recognized where.
[12:54] <kameron> ilba7r: link?
[12:54] <woodgrain> kameron,  hell I'd never do that to my linux box.
[12:54] <ilba7r> kafeine, ok give me a min
[12:54] <kameron> woodgrain: :P
[12:54] <theine> woodgrain, if you're the only one using those binaries, I'd put them in ~/bin
[12:55] <Inf3ctedFx> hey spacey_ki I already downlad it how can I start it
[12:55] <theine> ... which is the same as ${HOME}/bin ...
[12:55] <ilba7r> kafeine, a little bit old one but is the one i used http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23938&highlight=path+bash
[12:55] <woodgrain> nickrud, don't understand 'what's where'
[12:55] <kameron> ilba7r: are you talking to me, or kafeine?
[12:56] <nickrud> woodgrain, I know, I wasn't clear enough. It deserves a wiki page, with some examples. I'll do some someday.
[12:56] <ekorridorn> I've got a question: I try to get my nvidia geforce4 4200ti workin with ubuntu, when using "nv" driver in xorg.conf I get good working 2D-accell in 1600x1200 at wanted refresh rate, but when I'm using "nvidia" driver I can only run in  1200x1024, refresh rate is still good, I've tried with Modlines and Hsynx and Vsync is at right values, anyone know how to solve this?
[12:56] <theine> nickrud, please mention ~/.gnomerc on that wiki page...
[12:56] <ilba7r> kameron, you asked for a link for the .bashrc and bash_profile right
[12:56] <woodgrain> nickrud, theine  says it's best to put it in ~/bin --> no-one else uses these so why not?
[12:57] <nickrud> theine, yes, as a place to avoid :)
[12:57] <nickrud> except, maybe for a path
[12:57] <kameron> ilba7r: yeah, then you started talking to kafeine, but he hasn't said anything.. in.. a very long time, if at all today
[12:57] <theine> nickrud, or WINDOW_MANAGER
[12:57] <nickrud> woodgrain, I have all my personal bash scripts in ~/bin
[12:57] <mwe> kameron: try adding something like echo "FOO" to the end of .bash_profile and echo "BAR" to the end of .bashrc. then type bash <enter> then bash --login <enter> and see the difference. You made me uncertain as about the default gnome behaiviour though
[12:57] <woodgrain> nickrud, what's the bias against ~/.gnomerc?
[12:57] <ilba7r> kameron, sorry i am using tab completionperhaps i made a mistake
[12:57] <kafeine> kameron, haven't said anything in this channel the whole week, i reckon
[12:57] <kameron> mwe: ill give it a try in a bit
[12:58] <kameron> ilba7r: oh, okay, i get it. i was confused
[12:58] <nickrud> woodgrain, no bias, it's just that .gnomerc can be abused.
[12:58] <woodgrain> nickrud, so ~/bin should be for my pers. shell scripts -- should I have a ~/etc for applications/
[12:58] <kameron> kafeine: haha! wow. that's strange. just a lot of reading hey.
[12:58] <zorak> kameron, i was able to open gnome-control-center, but the mouse preferences do not include an option for increasing scroll wheel speed
[12:58] <holycow> what kernel is the next version ofubuntu supposed to ship with?
[12:58] <fanopnaic> 2.6.15 IIRC
[12:58] <holycow> cool
[12:58] <holycow> thx
[12:58] <kameron> holy crap xchat has tab completion, where have i been.
[12:58] <fanopnaic> yes
[12:58] <Toma-> yeh .15
[12:58] <Mr_Molez> can anyone help me, i cant see to find my cdrom drive
[12:59] <nickrud> woodgrain, sure, why not. I use ~/share for that kind of thing. No necessity for any particular dir
[12:59] <Mr_Molez> *seem
[12:59] <Inf3ctedFx> ok I'm trying to connect to another machinne but it wont connect it said connect to host xxx.xxx.xxx.xx port 22: Connection Refused
[12:59] <zorak> ya, i just realized that
[12:59] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: yeah and so?
[12:59] <woodgrain> Mr_Molez, system_admin_disks
[12:59] <Toma-> Mr_Molez: should be in your computer. IF youve installed it. ;D
[12:59] <Inf3ctedFx> I need to connect to another machine via ssh
[12:59] <theine> Inf3ctedFx, make sure an ssh server is running on the remote machine...
[12:59] <Inf3ctedFx> I dont know why is not connecting
[12:59] <Korupt> how do I get JRE working on firefox in ubuntu??
[12:59] <Mr_Molez> Toma-: ohh yeh i see it now, thanks
[12:59] <Inf3ctedFx> how can I know that theine
[01:00] <theine> Inf3ctedFx, is the other machine runnnin Ubuntu as well?
[01:00] <Toma-> haha
[01:00] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: is the port open on the machine ie not firewalled and is anything listening on port 22?
[01:00] <B_166-ER-X> does anybody would be knowing why i cannot see the 'images' of other people on aMSN 0.95 ?
[01:00] <Mr_Molez> woodgrain: systemsettings ?
[01:00] <woodgrain> nickrud, what's the std install location for linux applciations: /share or /etc?
[01:00] <Toma-> B_166-ER-X: are the other people using msn 7.5?
[01:00] <zorak> does anyone know of a setting for increasing mouse wheel scroll speed? the mouse preferences do not allow you to change it...
[01:00] <Inf3ctedFx> yes mwe
[01:00] <ULffuntu> have you guys ever saved a text file in gedit and then opened it with notepad in XP? Can you fix those linefeed chars?
[01:00] <woodgrain> Mr_Molez, use your mouse to go to System --> administration --> disks ... should be able to find it that way!
[01:00] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: I guess the ssh server is not running at the machine
[01:00] <kameron> woodgrain, to answer your question from quite a while ago about "make" and compilers, you could also check this out: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-Building-HOWTO.html
[01:00] <B_166-ER-X> Toma... i dont know that. but it does that for everyone
[01:01] <nickrud> woodgrain, standard is: binaries in /usr/bin, libs and the like in /usr/lib/, and the rest usually ends up in /usr/share
[01:01] <Inf3ctedFx> ok mwe  maybe now how can I make it run?
[01:01] <kameron> woodgrain, but that's just some random howto i found, try searching around on tldp.org or linuxquestions.com or something for a good guide
[01:01] <Toma-> B_166-ER-X: ahh i see. join #amsn and ask them
[01:01] <Mr_Molez> woodgrain: i think its because i just installed a new kernel, it was working before. Ive tried loading all the modules but i still cant get it to work
[01:01] <woodgrain> kameron,  oh, yeah that's where I should have looked to start TLDP!!!! rulez
[01:01] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: so nothing is listening on port 22
[01:01] <kameron> woodgrain, i LOVE tldp
[01:01] <B_166-ER-X> thx
[01:01] <BearHunter> How do I change grub to boot to windows by default?
[01:01] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: you need to read a ssh tutorial
[01:01] <woodgrain> Mr_Molez, ask someone else, I can' t help!@
[01:01] <theine> Inf3ctedFx, if the other machine is running Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:01] <nickrud> woodgrain, dpkg -L <package> tells you where each package puts it's files
[01:01] <Mr_Molez> woodgrain: hehe ok
[01:01] <Inf3ctedFx> oks
[01:02] <ekorridorn> anyone, no?
[01:02] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: you can't just expect to be able to ssh to some machine
[01:02] <ULffuntu> BearHunter: there is a line called default in menu.lst
[01:02] <kameron> B_166-ER-X, do you have imagemagick installed? amsn requires that
[01:02] <Toma-> kameron: theres simpler and more ubuntu biased howtos on the ubuntu wiki
[01:02] <Inf3ctedFx> mwe:  I used to do it with slack xD
[01:02] <mwe> ugh. amsn
[01:02] <woodgrain> nickrud, thanks good switch to know.
[01:02] <ULffuntu> BearHunter: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:02] <BearHunter> Ulffuntu: I open that file an edit it?
[01:03] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: then you must have configured the server at the remote machine or someone else had
[01:03] <kameron> Toma-, pass that on to woodgrain if you have a link
[01:03] <Inf3ctedFx> mwe: is the ssh already install now how can I make it run?
[01:03] <Toma-> !wiki
[01:03] <ULffuntu> BearHunter: yeah, I think you can change the default startup entry that way
[01:03] <theine> Inf3ctedFx, did you install openssh-server?
[01:03] <kameron> mwe: not an amsn fan? i love it. and the new .95 has webcam support too, very cool.
[01:03] <Inf3ctedFx> I'm trying to help a friend with the sound card so I;m going in
[01:03] <Inf3ctedFx> yes theine
[01:03] <soundray> BearHunter, add a line 'default n' to /boot/grub/menu.lst. Replace n with the number of the stanza that boots Windows. Counting starts at 0.
[01:04] <ULffuntu> yeah
[01:04] <theine> Inf3ctedFx, actually your friend needs to install openssh-server of course. did he do that?
[01:04] <Delvien> I forgot the command to clear the dmesg list, can anyone tell me?
[01:04] <Inf3ctedFx> yes theine
[01:04] <ryblo_f> I can't get my serial modem (on /dev/ttyS0) to respond to any AT commands... verified working in Windows.  Any kind help?
[01:04] <cyphase> we need something like http://www.koobox.com/ for Ubuntu
[01:04] <cyphase> :P
[01:04] <woodgrain> Toma-,  I want to cross compile for something else, can ununtu wiki heLP?
[01:04] <theine> Inf3ctedFx, than it's already running on his machine
[01:04] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: you need to install the ssh package
[01:04] <BearHunter> ok trying that, thanks
[01:04] <Toma-> woodgrain: cross compile? what are you compiling for?
[01:04] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: then configure it
[01:05] <Inf3ctedFx> the ssh package?
[01:05] <woodgrain> Toma-, arm7
[01:05] <Inf3ctedFx> how can I configure it? mwe ?
[01:05] <tafsen> How can I check if my graphic card is properly installed? And if it suports Open GL?
[01:05] <f1k0ym4k4> hi!! i'm new, somebody speak spanish?
[01:05] <nickrud> ryblo_f, try http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[01:05] <theine> mwe, it works pretty fine without configuration
[01:05] <Delvien> Can anyone tell me the command to clear the dmesg list. isnt it something like sudo dmesg -l or something
[01:05] <Toma-> cant you just pass --march=arm7 or something?
[01:05] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: RTFM. sorry I don't know any better way to explain it
[01:05] <f1k0ym4k4> where is the console ? :S:S
[01:05] <Toma-> sorry, --darch
[01:05] <theine> Inf3ctedFx, just try to ssh to your friend's machine now
[01:05] <soundray> ryblo_f, are you using terminal software like minicom?
[01:06] <Inf3ctedFx> oks theine
[01:06] <Inf3ctedFx> let me c
[01:06] <Inf3ctedFx> its ok mwe
[01:06] <mwe> theine: ssh works without configuration?
[01:06] <theine> mwe, yes
[01:06] <ryblo_f> soundray, that, or just 'sudo echo AT > /dev/ttyS0'
[01:06] <mwe> theine: how can I ssh to a machine without a key pair?
[01:06] <Mr_Molez> can anyone work out why i cant get my cdrom drive working ?
[01:06] <nickrud> f1k0ym4k4, the 'console' is at alt-ctl-f1
[01:06] <ULffuntu> anybody here work alot with gedit & notepad.exe?
[01:06] <Thunderguy> I have a problem in linux with kernel memory curroption and need to reboot the kernel, but how can I do this while keeping some programs open and network connections open?
[01:06] <theine> mwe, using a password?
[01:07] <soundray> ryblo_f, of course you wouldn't see any output from the latter.
[01:07] <mwe> theine: just a password?
[01:07] <theine> mwe, sure
[01:07] <kameron> thunderguy: i don't think you can
[01:07] <nickrud> Thunderguy, I think you ask for the impossible :)\
[01:07] <ryblo_f> soundray, no, I understand... but even commands like ATDT do nothing you see
[01:07] <mwe> theine: that takes the "secure" part away from secure shell though
[01:07] <theine> mwe, no it doesn't
[01:07] <zorak> does anyone know of a setting for increasing mouse wheel scroll speed? the mouse preferences do not allow you to change it...
[01:07] <Toma-> woodgrain: ./configure --target=arm7-linux
[01:07] <Toma-> i think
[01:08] <Thunderguy> It might not be corruption though, what the problem is, /dev/dsp is locked by a program that no longer exists in cpu/memory space.
[01:08] <BearHunter> Is it safe to use the 'saved' option to use the savedefault setting instead of a number?
[01:08] <soundray> ryblo_f, how about in minicom? Silence, too?
[01:08] <theine> mwe, that's the standard way of using ssh, private
[01:08] <Thunderguy> So how do I unlock a device, that a non-existant program has locked?
[01:08] <ryblo_f> soundray, yes minicom, wvdial, even the GTK stuff, silence
[01:08] <kameron> zorak: hmm, i know the kde control center has that option, i assumed that gnome does too, but i don't really use gnome
[01:08] <mwe> theine: um I would say so, not using encryption keys breaks the basic idea of ssh
[01:08] <johanbr> Well, what do you know. The kernel I compiled a week ago just decided to start working. :) I installed a new ubuntu kernel in the meantime, so maybe the install procedure for that cast some initrd spells that made it all work.
[01:08] <kameron> thunderguy: like a program that's hanging?
[01:08] <theine> mwe, please educate yourself
[01:08] <Thunderguy> kameron: Yes, except it isn't hanging anymore, I made it stop hanging and die
[01:08] <nickrud> Thunderguy, you could try killall on the process that is active on 'lsof /dev/dsp' , maybe
[01:08] <woodgrain> Toma-,  do you do this stuff?
[01:09] <theine> mwe, you are wrong on this, trust me
[01:09] <kameron> thunderguy: im lost, what's the problem?
[01:09] <mwe> theine: however do what you like. I would never allow password only login to my machines
[01:09] <Thunderguy> ah ok.
[01:09] <woodgrain> Toma-, compiling for other platforms?
[01:09] <zorak> alright then, maybe i'll try swtiching to kde
[01:09] <Toma-> woodgrain: not on ubuntu. used to on fedora
[01:09] <zorak> the mouse speed is unbearable :P
[01:09] <soundray> ryblo_f, is the modem physically attached to your serial port, or is it built in and emulating a port in some way?
[01:09] <Thunderguy> nickrud: It couldn't stat /dev/dsp said information may be incomplete
[01:09] <woodgrain> Toma-,  how small can I make the Ubuntu install ?
[01:10] <Toma-> woodgrain: 350mb, iirc
[01:10] <Dreamglider> i'd love to get java installed/or working in firefox, can anyone assist me ?
[01:10] <Toma-> thats a server install i do believe
[01:10] <kameron> !java
[01:10] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:10] <ryblo_f> soundray, physically on /dev/ttyS0 port
[01:10] <ryblo_f> soundray, serial cable
[01:10] <woodgrain> Toma-,  thx ... too bad it's too big.
[01:10] <theine> mwe, private/public key pairs are commonly used for password-*less* logins which can actually be considered to less secure
[01:11] <Toma-> woodgrain: what are you planning to install on?
[01:11] <korridoren> I hate nvidia
[01:11] <woodgrain> Toma-,  some custy platforms I am building.
[01:11] <Toma-> i see
[01:11] <mwe> theine: how are they less secure unless someone steals your private key and how would they do that without breaking in in the first place?
[01:11] <nickrud> Thunderguy, I've never had that output, just almost that esd is tying it up.
[01:12] <Toma-> with an arm7, i thought it might have been some special embedded device...
[01:12] <theine> and besides, these key pairs are only used for authentication and have nothing to do with the encryption of all other traffic
[01:12] <tr011> korridoren, nvidia is better than ati, a lot more... specially if we begin to talk about the lnx suport and the drivers
[01:12] <mwe> theine: I know that
[01:12] <woodgrain> Toma-, what does that ./configure --target=XXX do?
[01:12] <soundray> ryblo_f, what's the output from ls -l /dev/ttyS0 ?
[01:12] <djfdsfds> can someone help me with this error, ./eggdrop: error while loading shared libraries: libtcl8.4.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:12] <blanky> is there a limewire/gnutella channel
[01:12] <theine> mwe, so what? are you afraid of people guessing your password?
[01:12] <ryblo_f> soundray, paste it in the channel?
[01:12] <jader_> is there some way i can convert a NTFS partition to VFAT on linux without losing data??
[01:12] <Seveas> ryblo_f, NO
[01:12] <djfdsfds> the file is there, why cant the sysem find it?
[01:13] <soundray> ryblo_f, it's only one line, so I don't think anyone will mind.
[01:13] <Toma-> woodgrain: it should tell the configure, to create the makefile with arm7 specific cpu instructions
[01:13] <nickrud> djfdsfds, apt-cache search libtcl will probably find what you're afiter
[01:13] <Seveas> ryblo_f, use tha pastebin (see /topic)
[01:13] <ryblo_f> crw-rw----  1 root dialout 4, 64 2006-01-07 16:10 /dev/ttyS0
[01:13] <woodgrain> Toma-,  what's the configure?
[01:13] <mwe> theine: but I want to prevent unauthorized access. how is private public keys more insecure? It's pretty damn harder if not impossible to brute force an encrypted key
[01:13] <woodgrain> Toma-, configuration file?
[01:13] <mwe> theine: and yes that's the point
[01:13] <Toma-> woodgrain: yes
[01:13] <mwe> theine: not giving way to brute force
[01:13] <korridoren> tr011 : ok, It's just refuses to work for no apperent reason, and no one (gone through all the recomended guides, nvidia forum, and other forums) seems to know how to fix it
[01:13] <woodgrain> Toma-, when you were cross compiling were you writing your own configureation files/
[01:14] <Toma-> nope
[01:14] <Toma-> just building rpms
[01:14] <tafsen> How can I check if my graphic card is properly installed? And if it suports Open GL?
[01:14] <blanky> anyone know of a limewire/gnutella channel
[01:14] <korridoren> tr011 : And I'm not hackin good enough to fix it by my self...
[01:14] <theine> mwe, brute force attacks are very
[01:14] <woodgrain> Toma-, rpms for what target platform?
[01:14] <djfdsfds> nickrud, libtcl is installed fine
[01:14] <ryblo_f> soundray, it's in the pastebin...
[01:14] <Toma-> woodgrain: nothing fantastic, just 386 > 686 > ppc
[01:14] <djfdsfds> root@phobos:/etc# whereis libtcl8.4.so
[01:14] <djfdsfds> libtcl8.4: /usr/local/lib/libtcl8.4.so
[01:15] <theine> ... easily avoided by not allowing more than 3 logins per minute or whatever
[01:15] <jean> anyone tried the game beneath a steel blue sky?
[01:15] <Toma-> jean: yes
[01:15] <soundray> ryblo_f, for one line... :)
[01:15] <korridoren> jean : sure, loooong time ago
[01:15] <jean> in the repository
[01:15] <jean> good game
[01:15] <soundray> ryblo_f, looks fine.
[01:15] <mwe> theine: Well on my servers I wouldn't allow password only logins. I'd use encrypted keys combined with a strong password
[01:15] <Toma-> jean:  yep. also, try scummvm
[01:16] <korridoren> jean : cool, guess I could run it without my gfx card as well! Jippi!
[01:16] <ryblo_f> soundray, yes everything seems to be fine... I can't figure it out
[01:16] <theine> I would be more afraid that somebody in my office goes up to my computer while i'm off for coffee (and forgot to lock the screen) and steals my private key
[01:16] <jean> Toma-: just scummvm?
[01:16] <soundray> ryblo_f, I haven't worked with serial in Ubuntu - let me just check how it's set up...
[01:16] <mwe> theine: maybe that's just me, but I see your point too
[01:16] <Toma-> jean: itll lead you to all the other old-skool games :)
[01:16] <ryblo_f> soundray, thanks  a lot for your help
[01:16] <theine> mwe, peace
[01:16] <Toma-> jean: http://www.scummvm.org/downloads.php#extras
[01:16] <narles> can't get vlc player working with sound.. terminal says i'm missing qdm2 codec... any suggestions?
[01:16] <Toma-> flight of the amazon queen is rad
[01:17] <jean> Toma-: you mean download some to put into it?
[01:17] <thingfish> misfit_toy: are you watching in here?
[01:17] <nickrud> djfdsfds, ah, I can safely say you are on your own, since libtcl8 is local (you did it yourself) but, you could look into ld.so.conf (?)
[01:17] <Toma-> jean: yes
[01:17] <jean> Toma-: did you try lost labyrinth?
[01:17] <Toma-> nope...
[01:18] <jean> Toma-: glob2? battle for wesnoth?
[01:18] <jean> good games
[01:18] <djfdsfds> nickrud, until about 2 minuts ago(when i made it manually) id dint have a ld.so.conf but i really dont know the syntax
[01:18] <jean> all free
[01:18] <Toma-> glob2, yeh like that. wesnoth, i hated
[01:18] <soundray> ryblo_f, if you enter 'dmesg | less' or similar and search for ttyS, do you find output from serial setup?
[01:18] <Toma-> turn based stuff irritates the hell out of me
[01:18] <soundray> ryblo_f, you can pastebin it if you like...
[01:18] <nickrud> djfdsfds, why do you have a local tcl, anyway? ubuntu comes with a perfectly useful one in the repositories
[01:19] <ryblo_f> 'dmesg | grep tty' returns nothing...
[01:19] <djfdsfds> it wasnt working, so i installed it from source
[01:19] <narles> can't get vlc player working with sound.. terminal says i'm missing qdm2 codec... any suggestions?
[01:19] <djfdsfds> it didnt help
[01:19] <nickrud> well, I hope perfectly useful. It used to be.
[01:19] <ryblo_f> soundray, 'dmesg | grep tty' returns nothing...
[01:19] <soundray> ryblo_f, oh!
[01:20] <jean> Toma-: hows flight of the amazon queen
[01:20] <ryblo_f> soundray, ohh...
[01:20] <soundray> ryblo_f, well, that's at least a good reason for your modem not to respond :)
[01:20] <nickrud> djfdsfds, did you have problems finding the files needed for tcl development?
[01:20] <ryblo_f> soundray, missing module or..?
[01:20] <Toma-> i liked it. i think they made a movie about it recently...
[01:20] <djfdsfds> eggdrp wont compile or work right
[01:20] <Toma-> jean: ^^
[01:20] <djfdsfds> thats all i really care about tcl for
[01:20] <sluttie> can someone help to change keyboard from qwerty to azerty
[01:21] <chorse> anyone here using dapper?
[01:21] <thierry_> chorse : in my chroot only, it depends what you want....
[01:21] <soundray> ryblo_f, sorry, still digging...
[01:21] <IM> Has anyone Tried installing 5.10 under a windows Virtual Server 2005?
[01:22] <nickrud> djfdsfds, try installing tcl8.4-dev, or tclx8.4dev (a quick read, I haven't done any tcl for a long time)
[01:22] <IM> Just playing with the live CD to see if X will start... Works on the hardware without VS2k5 but not under VS.
[01:22] <chorse> thierry_: oh i just think about doing an dist-upgrade on my box @home
[01:23] <djfdsfds> actaully i got it, i just copied the tcl into /usr/lib
[01:23] <soundray> ryblo_f, /boot/config-* indicates that serial is loaded static (not as a module).
[01:23] <nickrud> djfdsfds, what works, works. But in the long term, learning the tools will help.
[01:23] <soundray> ryblo_f, could it be a device conflict?
[01:23] <crouton> howdy folks
[01:23] <crouton> !ndiswrapper
[01:23] <ubotu> I guess ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[01:23] <Toma-> IM: most Virtual Machines need to install their own display drivers, because the people making the distro dont exactly care about VM support :/
[01:24] <ryblo_f> soundray, no idea...
[01:24] <djfdsfds> ive never had a problem with tcl with any other distro i have ever used.... i used apt get to get tcl, it disnt work, whats a person to do?
[01:24] <thierry_> chorse : well forget it until preview releases, dapper is really not stable enough right now
[01:24] <crouton> anybody had problems with 'modprobe ndiswrapper'?  I'm getting 'module ndiswrapper not found'.
[01:24] <soundray> ryblo_f, is it a pretty bare PC or is it loaded to the brim with expansion cards?
[01:25] <IM> TOMA I am gussing I am pretty much screwed... Just trying to leverage existing equip....
[01:25] <zorak> does ubuntu include kde gui, and if so, how do you switch?
[01:25] <nickrud> djfdsfds, debian lays things out differently: you need to get the -dev files for compiling, and the names are not the ones you'd expect coming from mandriva-land
[01:25] <Toma-> IM: so X isnt starting?
[01:25] <ryblo_f> soundray, fairly loaded... I think I saw some parameters for my ISA soundcard when I was playing with stty and setserial...
[01:25] <soundray> zorak, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:25] <kemik> zorak:  kubuntu .. or apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[01:25] <thingfish> zorak: I think you have to go looking for kubuntu, if you want kde.
[01:25] <chorse> thierry_: well i don't expect a perfectly stable system
[01:25] <nickrud> djfdsfds, it's all a matter of semantics.
[01:26] <theine> djfdsfds, what exactly doesn't work?
[01:26] <zorak> ah, that's what kubuntu is :)
[01:26] <zorak> thanks
[01:26] <narles> Hey, I can't get VLC media player to work with sound on certain .mov's... terminal says it cannot find the qdm2 codec... any suggestions on how to get it working?
[01:26] <djfdsfds> nickrud, madrake ownz =p
[01:26] <djfdsfds> uromi never let me down
[01:26] <djfdsfds> urpmi*
[01:26] <thierry_> chorse : it's the way you like, testing is always needed :) but you need to understand how to fill bug and this stuff to help
[01:26] <nickrud> mandrake 7.3 owned, I will claim debian owns since then :)
[01:26] <theine> djfdsfds, what exactly doesn't work?
[01:26] <IM> Toma, X starts however the display is unreadable... Like it is @ the wrong refresh rate or res... I tride in 640x480 and still unreadable....
[01:27] <soundray> ryblo_f, an ISA soundcard can cause that kind of trouble in principle. Would it be difficult to remove it, reboot and rerun dmesg | grep tty ?
[01:27] <Toma-> IM have you tried setting the right Vert and/or Horz Sync?
[01:27] <amb> zorak: kde works perfectly well using normal ubuntu - no need to install ubuntu
[01:27] <amb> zorak: I mean no need to install kubuntu
[01:27] <chorse> thierry_: sure, that's no problem. just wanted to get some expieriences before i do the upgrade
[01:28] <IM> Nope, just trying defaults on the live CD. Pretty painful going through the install 12 times...... First time under VS2k5
[01:28] <ryblo_f> soundray, worth a try I suppose...  Ah!  and I see that a part of the soundcard is trying to use IRQ 4.
[01:28] <amb> zorak: forget it. I thought you said kdevelop. Must get more sleep
[01:29] <zorak> np, thx
[01:29] <Toma-> IM: live CD wont be much fun. everytime you reboot it, the settings will be lost
[01:29] <soundray> ryblo_f, the other thing you could do is play with the BIOS options for the IRQ and address for the COM port as they tend to be called in the setup.
[01:29] <thierry_> chorse : it would be a good idea to wait for test (or colony I don't know) release, right now we are still adding packages and fixing stuff so...
[01:29] <theine> djfdsfds, `tcl is not working' is not very specific...
[01:29] <ryblo_f> soundray, will do.  think we made some headway :)  Thanks again for the help!
[01:29] <narles> video sucks on ubuntu
[01:29] <soundray> ryblo_f, or even switch the jumpers on the soundcard around...
[01:29] <IM> I guess I could perform the install and play with X
[01:29] <ryblo_f> soundray, jumpers?  naah, this is a classy plug and play ISA board  ;P
[01:30] <soundray> ryblo_f, :)
[01:30] <Toma-> IM: it'll be easier :)
[01:30] <djfdsfds> thanks guys
[01:30] <soundray> ryblo_f, glad I could help a little.
[01:30] <Kovecses> there have been alot of gentoo vs ubuntu battles going on
[01:30] <ryblo_f> soundray, :D
[01:30] <IM> Yea......
[01:30] <narles> how does gentoo handle video
[01:30] <goog> totem
[01:30] <yatesy> with a video player usually
[01:31] <goog> lol
[01:31] <Kovecses> gentoo is great... but you compile everything
[01:31] <narles> i'm new to linux
[01:31] <nickrud> no battle, ubuntu wins hands down. compile nothing
[01:31] <soundray> gentoo socks, ubuntu rucks
[01:31] <yatesy> not true, you can get binary packages for gentoo
[01:31] <narles> my impressions so far is that video isn't to good for linux
[01:31] <Seveas> soundray, Kovecses gentoo and the quality of it are offtopic in here
[01:31] <Seveas> please go to #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[01:31] <Kovecses> yatesy, not really
[01:31] <goog> narles, this page will probably answer a lot of your questions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[01:31] <Toma-> ebuild is pretty simple actually
[01:31] <nickrud> sorush20, then what's the advantage of gentoo (soo offtopic)
[01:32] <soundray> Seveas, a line of fun should be allowed after a good piece of work.
[01:32] <narles> goog, i'm familiar with it
[01:32] <narles> i actually connected here to troubleshoot my problems with VLC
[01:32] <jtrask> hey, quick question - what's the benefit of using the ubuntu dvd?
[01:32] <Kovecses> can somebody point me to a link about making .deb packages
[01:32] <Seveas> soundray, that's why we have the offtopic channel...
[01:33] <chorse> thierry_: thanks
[01:33] <Seveas> Kovecses, check the documentation on the debian site
[01:33] <Kovecses> jtrask, if you have say dialup and downloads take forever
[01:33] <Toma-> Kovecses: are you planning to upload it to universe or anything?
[01:33] <goog> narles, what are your vlc problems?
[01:33] <Kovecses> Toma-, if poeple wanted it
[01:34] <narles> goog, I can't get VLC media player to work with sound on certain .mov's... terminal says it cannot find the qdm2 codec... any suggestions on how to get it working?
[01:34] <Toma-> Kovecses: well what (if i may ask) are you making a deb of and what for?
[01:34] <jtrask> Kovecses: i can bt from this machine at good speed, it's on the same connection as the other machine but ive been having trouble retrieving packages and although the hard drive is small, i doubt ubuntu is big enough to fill it. dont know what the problem is, but would you say there's a chance burning the dvd from here could take care of it?
[01:35] <Seveas> jtrask, the dvd contains all of main and nothing from universe
[01:35] <Kovecses> Toma-, the game ultimatestunuts
[01:35] <Kovecses> Toma-, the game ultimatestunts
[01:35] <julio> !tell julio about libstdc++6
[01:35] <julio> hi
[01:35] <narles> i installed a gstreamer ffmpeg file that supposedly fixes qdm2.. but still no sound
[01:35] <Seveas> Kovecses, that game is unstable as hell, I tried running/packaging it but essentialy gave up
[01:35] <julio> how can i get the libstdc++6
[01:35] <julio> because to install aMSN i need isntall it
[01:35] <julio> how can i?
[01:35] <Kovecses> Seveas, well im not even gonna try then ... lol
[01:36] <Seveas> julio, apt-get install amsn
[01:36] <Toma-> ahhhh cooooool. Kovecses, if its just for your use, you might want to try checkinstall, to keep your system apt friendly
[01:36] <Kovecses> are there any linux golf games?
[01:37] <ryblo_f> !seen sonic
[01:37] <ubotu> sonic <n=sonic@eci94.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 9d 10h 19m ago, saying: 'hi'.
[01:37] <Toma-> Kovecses: not really :(
[01:37] <ryblo_f> !seen
[01:37] <Toma-> theres Neverputt
[01:37] <Toma-> but its mini golf
[01:37] <ryblo_f> !seen sonic*
[01:37] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'sonic*', ryblo_f
[01:37] <Kovecses> Toma-, yeah been there
[01:37] <goog> narles, yeah thats what i would've tried. have you tried using a different video player, like totem or mplayer?
[01:37] <Dreamglider> can i have diffrent wallpapers on each of the four workspaces ?
[01:38] <Toma-> Kovecses: try trawling thru http://www.happypenguin.org/
[01:38] <Kovecses> Dreamglider, thats a good question
[01:38] <_ubuntu> how do i mount hdc1 with read access for all in konsole?? im on live cd
[01:38] <skon> Does anyone know how to keep the DNS settings from erasing everytime you start the computer ?
[01:38] <nickrud> Dreamglider, no, it's a long time wish list item for the metacity window manger
[01:38] <mwe> skon: don't use dhcp
[01:38] <skon> mwe: why should that matter?
[01:39] <ULffuntu> skon: you could have your router issue static leases
[01:39] <Kovecses> they erase from resolv.conf?????
[01:39] <mwe> skon: because it overwrites /etc/resolv.conf
[01:39] <Dreamglider> nickrud,  what's metacyti window manger ?
[01:39] <Seveas> skon, look at the StaticDnsWithDhcp wikipage
[01:39] <narles> goog, i'm open to using mplayer. But the .mov i tried came out choppy with bad picture. After reading the forums I think I might just avoid Totem in general
[01:39] <Seveas> Kovecses, yes, dhclient does that
[01:39] <skon> K thanks Seveas, mwe, ULffuntu
[01:39] <Seveas> !seen sabdfl
[01:39] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'sabdfl', Seveas
[01:39] <goog> narles, totem comes installed with ubuntu, unless you installed it, it's worth a shot. i personally like it.
[01:40] <goog> err, unless you uninstalled it
[01:40] <nickrud> Dreamglider, googling window manager will tell you a lot more than I can
[01:40] <Toma-> !metacity
[01:40] <ubotu> Toma-: Wish i knew
[01:40] <Toma-> stoopid
[01:40] <kro> does anyone know an equivalent of dvdshrink for linux?  I would assume you can do something similar with transcode, and I was hoping to find something simple tutorial with an example somewhere
[01:40] <kemik> narles:  mplayer is superior to totem
[01:40] <Korupt> Seveas, how do I get JRE for firefox?
[01:41] <_ubuntu> how do i mount hdc1 with read access for all in konsole?? im on live cd
[01:41] <Kovecses> Dreamglider, its the window manager that gnome uses
[01:41] <Seveas> !tell Korupt about javadebs
[01:41] <nickrud> narles, totem-xine is superior to mplayer
[01:41] <kemik> _ubuntu:  try #kubuntu perhaps
[01:41] <mwe> Toma-: use !info metacity
[01:41] <alekandr> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:41] <alekandr>  (Whats the problem?)
[01:41] <kemik> narles:  nickrud is obviously mistaken ;)
[01:41] <ompaul> jdub, u about?
[01:41] <_ubuntu> kemik: im on kubunto too..... isnt it the same commands??
[01:41] <Seveas> alekandr, extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[01:41] <Seveas> that's the problem
[01:42] <kemik> _ubuntu:  ah yes ;) i guess
[01:42] <alekandr> Seveas: That was almost funny
[01:42] <kameron> _ubuntu: it shouldn't matter if you're in konsole, or any other terminal. sudo mount /dev/hdc1 /some/place
[01:42] <_ubuntu> kemik:  :)
[01:42] <j2daosh> anyone know how to setup the auto identify option?
[01:42] <Seveas> alekandr, the cause it that you probably didn't install video drivers and have an ati or nvidia card
[01:42] <kemik> _ubuntu:  what filesystem isit?
[01:42] <Seveas> j2daosh, you mean on freenode?
[01:42] <narles> kemik, that's what i've read.. but the .mov I played in mplayer was choppy and had low quality
[01:42] <kemik> _ubuntu:  think you can play with "fmask" if it fat
[01:42] <_ubuntu> kameron: yeah i know that but then i cant get access to it through konqurer
[01:42] <alekandr> Seveas: I did install my nvidiagfx driver :(
[01:42] <_ubuntu> its ntfs
[01:43] <Seveas> alekandr, which card do you have?
[01:43] <mwe> alekandr: did you do everything the wiki said?
[01:43] <j2daosh> yeah i think so seveas... i mean its no big deal to constantly have to type /msg nickserv identify password but still... im lazy :P
[01:43] <kameron> _ubuntu launch konqueror from root, like: sudo konqueror
[01:43] <Seveas> j2daosh, use your nickserv password as server password
[01:43] <kameron> _ubuntu: or configure fstab, etc, but you're just on a livecd
[01:43] <alekandr> mwe: what wiki?
[01:43] <kemik> _ubuntu:  you could mount it with uid=UID and gid=GID options (but that would only help for one user)
[01:43] <nickrud> narles, try xine, totem-xine, and mplayer against any video. Sometimes one works better than another.
[01:43] <mwe> !tell alekandr about nvidia
[01:43] <j2daosh> server password?
[01:43] <kameron> _ubuntu: keep in mind, the 2.6 kernel doesn't support writing to ntfs
[01:43] <alekandr> Seveas: fx5200 pci 256mb
[01:43] <kemik> kameron:  that's not really a good way to do it
[01:43] <mwe> alekandr: read /msg from ubotu
[01:43] <kameron> kemik: do to dhwat?
[01:43] <Seveas> j2daosh, in the server dialog you can specify a password
[01:43] <kameron> kemik: to do what?
[01:44] <j2daosh> lemme look at that... see if i can figure out what your talking about
[01:44] <kemik> start konqueror with sudo ?
[01:44] <alekandr> mwe: thanks :] 
[01:44] <_ubuntu> kemik: cant use those only get a hlp screen
[01:44] <kemik> isnt it better to mount the ntfs partition with another user than root ?
[01:44] <Korupt> Seveas, thanks..... what is the package called though?
[01:44] <_ubuntu> kemik: i cant mount if im not in root
[01:44] <kameron> kemik: there is nothing wrong with launching konqueror from sudo, it gives you root permission in a file browser
[01:45] <kameron> kemik: you can't mount anything except from root
[01:45] <Seveas> korridoren, sun-j2re1.5 oslt
[01:45] <mwe> _ubuntu: add user under options. add umask=0222 as well
[01:45] <mwe> _ubuntu: in fstab that is
[01:45] <kemik> umask.. not fmask :)
[01:45] <kemik> dang
[01:45] <saik0> Where could I find out how do do something in OOo Calc?
[01:45] <kemik> kameron:  well it's not cool to give konqueror / nautilus root permissions ;)
[01:45] <kameron> mwe: he's just on livecd
[01:45] <mwe> kemik: there's dmask,fmask and umask. umask sets them both
[01:46] <ompaul> saik0, why not ask the specific quesiton and see if anyone here can answer it
[01:46] <kameron> kemik: it's not really a problem, tell me otherwise
[01:46] <kemik> mwe:  aight.. i did it the ugly way... "uid=1000, gid=1000"
[01:46] <kemik> but it's a single-user system so it's ok ,)
[01:46] <j2daosh> ahh sweet
[01:46] <j2daosh> thanks seveas
[01:46] <Seveas> np
[01:47] <kemik> kameron:  it's bad practice and it's better to mount the volume with another umask or user to own the files
[01:47] <saik0> ompaul, yea I try to stay on topic
[01:47] <kameron> kemik: you're a woman
[01:47] <j2daosh> so whos gonna teach me how to compile my kernel? and explain to me why i would want to do that
[01:47] <kemik> kameron: i guess i am
[01:47] <kameron> kemik: "bad practice" isn't a reason for me not to do anything
[01:47] <kameron> kemik: just bugging you
[01:47] <saik0> How would I SUM up the values of an entire column in OOo Calc?
[01:48] <nickrud> sum( drag0select range )
[01:48] <nickrud> sum( drag->select range )
[01:48] <Inf3ctedFx> what is the best ftp client on ubuntu with GUI?
[01:48] <mwe> Inf3ctedFx: define best
[01:48] <nickrud> I wish there was a best ftp client, I just use gftp most of the time
[01:48] <kemik> Inf3ctedFx:  gftp some ppl claim
[01:49] <Inf3ctedFx> well not really the best just one FTP use GUI enviroment
[01:49] <_ubuntu> ahhhhh.... crap!   how do i copy a file in konsole???
[01:49] <kemik> but there really isnt a good gui.ftp client imo
[01:49] <saik0> nickrud, I want to SUM up all of X column, not a specific range
[01:49] <tafsen> If I play music from rhythmbox, I can't get sound from any other program. Why is that, and how can I fix it?
[01:49] <_ubuntu> !copy
[01:49] <ubotu> _ubuntu: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:49] <kemik> _ubuntu:  you know you cant write to the ntfs partition ?
[01:49] <kameron> _ubuntu: cp /from/location /to/location
[01:49] <alekandr> Seveas: nvidia glx or glx legacy for the fx5200?
[01:49] <_ubuntu> kemik: i know that
[01:50] <_ubuntu> kameron: thanx
[01:50] <nickrud> saik0, I'm not sure how to describe it, I've been doing columns/rows of values since visicalc.
[01:50] <alekandr> mwe: the fx5200: glx or glx legacy?
[01:50] <tafsen> can anyone please help me with my sound problem?
[01:51] <Korupt> tafsen: what's up?
[01:51] <saik0> alekandr, glx
[01:51] <mwe> alekandr: I have no idea, sorry
[01:51] <mwe> alekandr: doesn't the wiki say?
[01:51] <alekandr> it does
[01:51] <nickrud> saik0, sum(x10:y:10) where x:y is rows, 10 is column?
[01:51] <alekandr> but geforce2 cards can be legacy
[01:51] <alekandr> and the page to check is missing
[01:51] <kameron> alexandr: in aptitude click on both and read the description
[01:52] <tafsen> Korupt, I can't play sound from more than one sound source at the time =\
[01:52] <kameron> alexandr: not aptitude.. the other thing. the graphical front end to apt. synaptic.
[01:52] <j2daosh> hey got a question about snort... i just installed it because a guy im friends with at work said it was better then nessus or whatnot... but how do i see it? how do i start it? how am i supposed to know whether or not i have exploitable vulnerabilities if i cant see whte prog or what it is doing?
[01:53] <Korupt> tafsen: what type of sound card?
[01:53] <kameron> j2daosh: air snort?
[01:53] <tafsen> Korupt, dunno. How do I check?
[01:53] <saik0> nickrud, I use it for book keeping and it's annoying to ceek changing the function
[01:53] <j2daosh> no just snort
[01:53] <Korupt> System -> Administration -> Device Manager
[01:54] <kameron> j2daosh: oh, no idea
[01:54] <j2daosh> anyone even use snort or nessus?
[01:54] <Korupt> tafsen: System => Administration => Device Manager
[01:54] <saik0> ceek = keep*
[01:54] <mwe> j2daosh: what do you wanna do?
[01:54] <tafsen> Korupt, ok, I check it out
[01:55] <j2daosh> use them lol
[01:55] <nickrud> saik0, you and me both.
[01:55] <mwe> j2daosh: yeah. for what?
[01:55] <j2daosh> to know vulnerabilities i have... see if someone is screwing with my comp...
[01:56] <mwe> j2daosh: maybe standard tools can do what you need
[01:56] <Korupt> Seveas, where does the defult firefox install have its plugins installed?
[01:56] <alekandr> wish me luck
[01:56] <mwe> j2daosh: sudo netstat -ntlp will show what's listening
[01:56] <j2daosh> i want a proggie that will show me all the connections that are active on my comp and what program is being run by each logged in user
[01:56] <Seveas> Korupt, /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[01:56] <johndarkhorse> Korupt: /usr/share/mozilla/plugins
[01:56] <johndarkhorse> Korupt: there are many 'default' places
[01:57] <Korupt> johndarkhorse, was referring to on ubuntu
[01:57] <mwe> j2daosh: I'm sure you don't need snort for that
[01:57] <nickrud> j2daosh, sudo netstat, and -plant and -tlp are both useful modifiers
[01:57] <ubuntu> forgot i was on live cd! cant copy there
[01:57] <ubuntu> how do i alter the ownership or read sccess to a folder??
[01:57] <ubuntu> access
[01:58] <tafsen> Korupt, Intel 82801DB-ICH4 ALSA Capture device?
[01:58] <_jason> ubuntu, chmod
[01:58] <goog> how do i get a trash icon on the desktop?
[01:58] <j2daosh> right click the panel and hit add to panel
[01:58] <goog> that puts it on the panel
[01:58] <goog> i want it on the desktop
[01:58] <Korupt> tafsen, okay.... now what you do is google for linux kernel support of your card...... the kernel may only support a single channel
[01:58] <ubuntu> _jason: so if i want to alter the folder /mnt/win i should do what??
[01:59] <Mr_Molez> I cant find any device nodes for my cdrom drive, can anyone take a guess as to the problem i have recently installed a new kernel (using the previous ubuntu kernel config file)
[01:59] <_jason> goog, I believe there is an option if you use gconf, but I'm not on ubuntu right now.  If no one else can remember, search for Desktop or trash in there (I think it's apps -> nautilus -> desktop)
[01:59] <tafsen> Korupt, Like "Intel 82801DB-ICHA kernel support" ?
[02:00] <Korupt> tafsen, yeah
[02:00] <doinbox> hello 2 questions how do i set up aol pppoe broadband connetion with bt voyager 100 modem
[02:00] <nickrud> goog, open applications->system tools->Config editor, then inside that /apps/nautilus/desktop/trash_icon_visible
[02:00] <ITSa341> Good evening everyone
[02:00] <_jason> ubuntu, you should just mount it appropriately, is it ntfs or fat32?
[02:00] <doinbox> and my floppy drive and cdrom wont work except that it will play music cds
[02:00] <ubuntu> _jason: its ntfs
[02:00] <Korupt> tafsen, more often than not on more obscure devices like yours there is minimal support if any
[02:00] <goog> nickrud, thanks
[02:01] <Mr_Molez> doinbox: you will have to find a driver for the modem (i dont think its well supported)
[02:01] <nickrud> unlike _jason, I was in ubuntu :)
[02:01] <doinbox> ok ill try and the problem with the disk drives
[02:01] <narles> has anyone streamed their itunes library in their windows share to ubuntu?
[02:01] <ubuntu> _jason: ive already mounted it now i want to alter the access to it! im on live cd
[02:01] <doinbox> it says unable to mount
[02:02] <kameron> i just had an awesome idea. run camorama on a computer sitting next to my door, and mount a webcam looking through the front window, and have it connect to my wireless router, and tunnel info through ssh to my comp in the office, so i can see who's at the door. by any chance, has this ever been attempted?
[02:02] <Korupt> coolness => /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so
[02:02] <nickrud> narles, do you have a working itunes under ubuntu?
[02:02] <Korupt> oops
[02:02] <tafsen> Korupt, well I get sound at least.  Can i compile anything to the kernel if it doesn't support it?
[02:02] <narles> no
[02:02] <Mr_Molez> doinbox: ive got the same problem with cdrom drive lol.. im asking aswell ;)
[02:02] <Korupt> wrong address   ^_^
[02:02] <mwe> kameron: rofl
[02:02] <narles> nickrud, i tried installing itunes with wine, but it never completed
[02:03] <goog> i've got my mp3 library on a windows share mounted and added to the library in rhythmbox
[02:03] <kameron> mwe: think it'll work?
[02:03] <Korupt> tafsen: once in a great while yes, though you'd have to research that...... Seveas would be the one to ask there
[02:03] <nickrud> narles, np, I'm just looking for someone with recent experience to update restrictedformats
[02:03] <mwe> kameron: if you're dedicated maybe you'll get it working
[02:03] <goog> this is probably the busiest chat room ive ever been in
[02:03] <Korupt> okay, this is just sweet   => http://www.madmerv.com/portfolio/dotsnotgoogle/index.html
[02:03] <narles> nickrud, thanks man, appreciated
[02:04] <narles> goog, could i do that with amarok?
[02:04] <Mr_Molez> as well as my cdrom drive not having a device node my second hard drive wont mount (keeps saying busy, also fails on boot)
[02:04] <Mr_Molez> any ideas anyone ?
[02:04] <kameron> mwe: maybe one day.
[02:04] <kameron> mwe: it'd probably be easier just to get a really long usb cable. but when does usb lose signal?
[02:05] <tafsen> Korupt, about kernel compiling?
[02:05] <mwe> kameron: I don't know
[02:05] <ves> Is there anyway to force dpkg to install a package?
[02:05] <_jason> ubuntu, unmount it with the umount command and then we can remount it with the right options so you know how to do it, k?
[02:06] <Korupt> tafsen, about tracking down a kernel module..... I tend to spend hours looking for those sort of things and never find it
[02:06] <ubuntu> _jason: ok gonna umount it now
[02:06] <doinbox> can any one tell me what i have to do when my floppy drive and dvd-rw drive say they cant mount
[02:06] <tafsen> Korupt, hehe. Ok ;) thx for the help
[02:06] <doinbox> plz
[02:06] <Fred> is there a way i can make iptables log blocked/rejected packets to syslog or some other log file?
[02:06] <nickrud> ves, there's the --force option to dpkg, man dpkg will explain it. It's not something to do lightly.
[02:06] <goog> narles, probably, but i dont use amarok. you just have to mount the windows share.
[02:07] <goog> narles, you have to install samba and smbfs
[02:07] <ves> nickrud: ah I see, cheers. I've got something conflicting with scrollkeeper and I'm sure I've resolved it before by forcing the install..
[02:07] <mwe> ves: take care with --force it might break your system if you're not careful
[02:07] <ubuntu> i get this when i write sudo -i "sudo: uid 1000 does not exist in the passwd file!"
[02:07] <_jason> ubuntu, to mount it so everyone can read it: sudo mount -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222 /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ (but change hda1 to whatever yours is of course)
[02:07] <goog> then you can mount with sudo mount //<ip_of_windows_machine>/<share_name> /mnt/target
[02:07] <narles> goog, and doing this allows me to play my music in windows and ubuntu right?
[02:08] <narles> i'm just clarifying.. sorry
[02:08] <Kovecses> where can i find screenshots of xubuntu-desktop?
[02:08] <goog> yeah.. it will work assuming your music is already in a windows share on your network
[02:08] <narles> awesome
[02:08] <goog> its just making that share accessible on the ubuntu filesystem, so basically amarok will think the files are local
[02:08] <alekandr> All fixed :]  thanks mwe
[02:08] <ves> mwe: cheers for the warning, I'll probably hold off.
[02:08] <mwe> Kovecses: tried www.google.com/search?q=xubuntu-desktop+screenshot ?
[02:08] <nickrud> scrollkeeper has always been a bane of mine
[02:09] <mwe> alekandr: great
[02:09] <alekandr> mwe, i dont suppose there is a bot command for breezy sourcelists, my source list has hoary mixed in
[02:09] <narles> ok
[02:09] <nickrud> Kovecses, look for xfce for screenshots of what xubuntu could look like
[02:09] <mills00013> join #Linuxhelp
[02:09] <ves> nickrud: How'd you mean? I keep googling for answers to those sort of problems and come up empty
[02:09] <mwe> alekandr: don't mix breezy and hoary
[02:09] <_jason> ubotu, tell alekandr about sources
[02:09] <mills00013> Join #Linuxhelp
[02:10] <alekandr> _jason: thanks L[
[02:10] <Korupt> mmmmmmmm xfce
[02:10] <alekandr> :]  *
[02:10] <kameron> Korupt: xfce is nice
[02:11] <nickrud> ves, I'm sorry, that was an off the cuff complaint about the toolchain that creates the files that scrollkeeper tracks, and the yelp interface.
[02:11] <twigman> possibly dumb question from a newb...is mythtv in breezy-backports??  I got it from multiverse a couple of weeks back, but I don't seem to be able to find it now.  Any direction/help would be appreciated.  Thanks.
[02:11] <ves> nickrud: I see :)
[02:11] <Korupt> kameron, yeah...... my main gripe is the GNOME irritates me
[02:12] <CodenameKT> twigman: check your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:12] <mills00013> has anyone been able to build jdmouse?
[02:12] <kameron> Korupt: you and me both. but it makes me feel kind of useless not knowing anything about gnome, and being in a ubuntu channel. that, and i run lilo and not grub.. so i'm totally useless :P
[02:12] <holycow> Korupt, so use kde, whats the big deal :)
[02:12] <johndarkhorse> twigman: packages.ubuntu.com is up to date
[02:12] <holycow> kameron, whats to know? click and app and go?
[02:12] <mwe> kameron: :)
[02:12] <Korupt> holycow: I like KDE... but Ubuntu support for it currently sucks
[02:12] <holycow> you want to spend your time configuring useless settings, use kde :)
[02:13] <kameron> holycow: just all the config of gnome and what not.. i don't get it. and i only know a bit about grub.
[02:13] <Niko--> how do you install authd (or identd) in ubuntu?  I can't find it through google search
[02:13] <Korupt> kameron: lilo??? why would anyone use such an antiquated system?
[02:13] <holycow> kameron, what config? what is there you want to config?
[02:13] <nickrud> kameron, lilo is heavan, don't let anyone tell you otherwise :)
[02:13] <mwe> kameron: I agree with Linus on his views about the path that gnome has taken and thus don't use it. I know how you feel though I feel the same in here :)
[02:13] <holycow> grub has nothing to do with gnome, i don't see where you are going with that
[02:13] <kameron> mwe: what did linus say?
[02:13] <holycow> if you don't know grub, go find a distro that uses lilo *cough* good luck *cough* :)
[02:14] <Kovecses> slackware uses lilo
[02:14] <CodenameKT> mwe: yes, what did linus say
[02:14] <kameron> Korupt: it's all i've ever used, and my DFI board refuses to boot to grub for some strange reason.
[02:14] <mwe> kameron: let me find the link
[02:14] <johndarkhorse> !offtopic
[02:14] <ubotu> rumour has it, offtopic is Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[02:14] <jedi> is there a way to upgrade a system from i386 to x86_64?
[02:14] <kameron> holycow: there isnt anything i want to config, i was just saying
[02:14] <Seveas> mwe, please, #Ubuntu-offtopic
[02:14] <holycow> i think you guys are working really really hard to find something to complain about :)
[02:14] <twigman> CodenameKT:  Thanks.  I un-commented the line  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list, but a synaptic search finds no mythtv...
[02:14] <holycow> kameron, that is exactly my point :)
[02:14] <Seveas> we've had this discussion a zillion times already
[02:14] <CodenameKT> twigman: no prob
[02:14] <mwe> Seveas: all right
[02:14] <kameron> nickrud: werd!! grub people get all uppity "we have a command prompt, we don't have to run grub-install everytime we change someting".. well you know what i say to those people?
[02:15] <kameron> holycow :P
[02:15] <johndarkhorse> kameron: nickrud: in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:15] <nickrud> that if the bios is screwed, lilo can survive.
[02:15] <nickrud> I'll leave it at that
[02:15] <mwe> kameron: anyway the link. and don't comment or let's take the discussion out of here: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html
[02:15] <kameron> mwe: okay
[02:15] <holycow> if your bios is messed  you have bigger problems than your bootloader, thats just stupid
[02:15] <Niko--> so does anyone know how to install identd in ubuntu?  it would be nice to be able to use an irc network that requires ident
[02:15] <doinbox> can someone with alot of knowlede on ubuntu private chat me please
[02:16] <fasmo> hoola
[02:16] <johndarkhorse> doinbox: ask in here
[02:16] <fasmo> alguien ???
[02:16] <doinbox> ok but i never get an answer
[02:16] <Kovecses> fasmo, how did you do that
[02:16] <mwe> doinbox: ask in the channel so everyone can benefit
[02:16] <D1> yeah, we're one big blob of knowledge...collectivelly.
[02:16] <johndarkhorse> !es
[02:16] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:16] <nickrud> Niko--, install oidentd
[02:16] <fasmo> alguien me ayuda a instalar un programa
[02:17] <johndarkhorse> Niko--: /msg ubotu find identd
[02:17] <doinbox> how do i mount a floppy drive and dvd rom in ubuntu coz they both dont work they just keep sayin cant mount drive
[02:17] <holycow> fasmo, no hable espanol .... --> #ubuntu-es
[02:17] <Niko--> oops
[02:17] <Niko--> lol
[02:17] <mills00013> hey iv been having a some trouble building jdmouse.. im getting some errors that i dont quite undersand. so im not sure how to fix them
[02:17] <johndarkhorse> fasmo: por favor ingles aqui, espanol en #ubuntu-es
[02:17] <Niko--> how come no identd package shows up when using synaptic?
[02:17] <kameron> mwe: "If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will
[02:17] <kameron> use it." that's good.
[02:17] <Korupt> wait.... THE one and only Linus Torvalds said himself that GNOME sucks...... ouch
[02:18] <crimsun> Linus has been wrong in the past.
[02:18] <kameron> Korupt: yes, but.. #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:18] <twigman> CodenameKT:  Not sure how to interpret 'No prob'...I don't see mythtv at packages.ubuntu.com either (though I wouldn't have known to look :)
[02:18] <nickrud> thank you, crimsun
[02:18] <mwe> crimsun: yeah. and he likes statements with an attitude
[02:18] <holycow> Korupt, if you are so dogmatic, why not just stay in the kubuntu channel? whats the big deal? you like kde and exactly no one cares
[02:19] <Kovecses> who knows if that even was linus
[02:19] <jedi> is there a way to make an i386 installation 64bit?
[02:19] <mills00013> good point
[02:19] <jadewolf> kameron: hey buddy, I kinda got it installed, It seems my CDRW drive is going bad cause 2 CDs burned and I couldn't do full install I had to do 'server' install
[02:19] <ITSa341> <-- prefers Gnome or KDE to MS
[02:19] <kingsley> How does one tell which device a modem is attached to on a livecd, which has no /var/log/messages file? Nor is the modem listed in lspci or dmesg.
[02:19] <kameron> jadewolf: oh no! that sucks.
[02:19] <Niko--> nicklas, how come ubuntu doesn't have any identd packages using apt-get?
[02:19] <narles> say i save an openoffice document in windows XP format... how will it look if i load it up on windows-msword???
[02:19] <nickrud> it was, and he was complaining about something that is so darned trivial, an in development interface to cups.
[02:19] <kameron> jadewolf: you can apt-get install most things
[02:19] <jadewolf> kameron: yeah I just gotta figure out what to install
[02:19] <doinbox> ok ill ask again  how do i mount a floppy drive and dvd rom in ubuntu coz they both dont work they just keep sayin cant mount drive
[02:20] <mwe> narles: why don't you try it? :)
[02:20] <narles> lol
[02:20] <kameron> is "ubuntu-desktop" a package you can install? i know "kubuntu-desktop" is one.
[02:20] <Kovecses> doinbox, did you check your fstab
[02:20] <narles> lack of motivation at the moment
[02:20] <mwe> narles: anyway to answer if it doesn't use to complex formatting it looks fine
[02:20] <Spudchat> hi everyone
[02:20] <kameron> jadewold: try "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" i don't know if it's an actual package though.
[02:20] <narles> mwe, thanks
[02:20] <Spudchat> any ideas on how to convert avi s to dvd
[02:20] <doinbox> kovecses i dont know what that is
[02:20] <holycow> narles, it will be fine, oo exports to some know basic word features.  ideally you want to send people pdf files tho
[02:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> kameron: 'ubuntu-desktop' depends on the base ubuntu install as a whole, so through dependencies I think you'd get the entire installation
[02:21] <Krhis> Anyone hear about linuxtoday getting sponsored by Microsoft?
[02:21] <doinbox> whats an fstab
[02:21] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell doinbox about fstab
[02:21] <holycow> Krhis, what do you mean sponsored? they run almost nothing but ms ads anyway.  whats your point?
[02:21] <kameron> PuMpErNiCkLe, good stuff, just checking for jadewolfs sake
[02:21] <nickrud> kameron, the big three: ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, and xubuntu-desktop.
[02:22] <jadewolf> kameron: how do I make sure its downloading all the newest stuff and not asking for CDs everytime
[02:22] <kameron> nickrud: xubuntu? what about edubuntu?
[02:22] <narles> holycow, i ask because i might need to load up essays on other peoples computers at school, for printing/editing/etc
[02:22] <kameron> jadewolf, you'll need to update your /etc/sources.list
[02:22] <damotor> hi. I just updated from hoary to breezy and when I start the cmputer and ubuntu is gonna show gnome the desktop keeps black and I can't see neither the graphical screen nor the terminals
[02:22] <bk> does anybody know how to program gui apps C++ using the GNU compiler?  what class do I use?  is EZ Windows available?
[02:22] <holycow> narles, don't send in word format, send in pdf.  that is pretty well guaranteed to print how you laid out your doc
[02:22] <kameron> !easysources
[02:22] <ubotu> kameron: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:22] <Krhis> holycow: Go to there site and look under the "Linux Reference Center"
[02:22] <kameron> !easysource
[02:22] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:22] <nickrud> kameron, I have to admit, I don't know if edubuntu is a meta-package
[02:22] <cafuego> bk: gtk or qt are the most common libs
[02:22] <narles> ok
[02:22] <kameron> nickrud: it is
[02:22] <doinbox> i thought linux is supposed to be easy whats all this commands about i cant do that is there any straight forward linux
[02:23] <nickrud> so I see :)
[02:23] <narles> holycow, i'm assuming it isn't to hard to convert to pdf in oo///
[02:23] <bk> cafuego, to program guis?
[02:23] <holycow> narles, oh editing ... well there are no guarantees when you go between office suites ... mostly you can expect it to be exactly right but its a hard thing to guess.  you should be fine but expect a glitch or two
[02:23] <Niko--> doinbox, you could rephrase your question
[02:23] <cafuego> bk: Yes. gtk is what Gnome uses; qt is what KDE uses.
[02:23] <goog> has anyone else noticed that abiword > ooffice ?
[02:23] <doinbox> sorry niko
[02:23] <bk> alright, i'll try it.  thanks
[02:23] <cafuego> bk: There are of course many others too.
[02:23] <kameron> doinbox: Xandros, lol
[02:23] <nickrud> sorush20, there's a fortuitous four, right now :)
[02:23] <kameron> nickrud: there sure is!
[02:23] <holycow> narles,  one click, and the funny thing is, it saves to pdf faster than the native oo format >_<
[02:24] <bk> cafuego, be my guest and rattle them off. lol
[02:24] <Kovecses> microsoft formats are now open ... so in openoffice 2.1 or so the implementing will be perfect
[02:24] <kameron> jadewolf: did you get that link?
[02:24] <cafuego> bk: You may want to try 'anjuta' on KDE or um.. I forget its name... on Gnome.
[02:24] <narles> haha
[02:24] <holycow> Krhis, wth are you talking about? its just an ad
[02:24] <cafuego> bk: Nah, google would be far better at doing that.
[02:24] <Thunderguy> microsoft formats are now open? what caused this?
[02:24] <Niko--> Kovecses: really?
[02:24] <nickrud> I hate/love tab completion, sorry sorush20
[02:24] <holycow> ms spends loads of cash on all linux websites throwing around fud
[02:24] <Kovecses> Niko--, yup ... want the link
[02:24] <cafuego> open or "open" ?
[02:24] <Krhis> I found it ironically amusing.
[02:24] <kameron> Kovecses: what!?
[02:24] <doinbox> i heard linux was very easy to use, but everything seems to be a command you have to type to set something up and i would not know where to start with that
[02:24] <holycow> i think its great, anyone that is fooled by that deserves to buy ms products
[02:24] <Thunderguy> I want the link
[02:24] <Kovecses> ok lemme get it
[02:25] <Thunderguy> Thank you :)
[02:25] <Niko--> Kovecses: sure
[02:25] <doinbox> is there any linux programs that are easier to use?
[02:25] <holycow> doinbox, its not really on ubuntu, its just that command line is more direct and faster in the end
[02:25] <narles> holycow, i would of course save my oo files as xp docs if i want to edit them on a windows OS right?
[02:25] <holycow> doinbox, what are you having problems setting up by gui?
[02:25] <phreak97> fuck
[02:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> doinbox: Depends on what you're trying to do.
[02:25] <Niko--> doinbox: not everything requires command lane...gui should work for most things
[02:25] <cafuego> narles: Why not use OOo2 on Windows as well?
[02:25] <doinbox> what is gui
[02:25] <_jason> narles, or you can install open office on the windows computer
[02:25] <jadewolf> kameron: ugh whats the apt-get for gdm so I can cut and past
[02:25] <kameron> jadewolf: i can send you a copy of my sources.list if you like
[02:25] <phreak97> linux has way more problems than linux users claim
[02:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> doinbox: GUI - Graphical User Interface
[02:25] <holycow> narles, to be sure save in ms office 2000/97, not everyone has the latest ms office format
[02:25] <kameron> jadewolf: you're on command line right?
[02:25] <phreak97> vlc shit itself for no reason
[02:25] <doinbox> oh i see what you mean
[02:25] <jadewolf> kameron: yup
[02:26] <moyogo> hi
[02:26] <doinbox> a screen where i am given options to set something up
[02:26] <phreak97> reinstall didnt fix it
[02:26] <kameron> jadewolf: if i paste my sources.list to a pastebin, is that going to be difficult, or not bad? i don't do a lot of command line stuff.
[02:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> doinbox: Exactly.
[02:26] <phreak97> it has ony a play/pause button and a volume control
[02:26] <phreak97> nothing else
[02:26] <holycow> doinbox, all your settings are under the system menu in the top left ... look there
[02:26] <jadewolf> that would be fine kameron
[02:26] <holycow> doinbox, for regular users there is nothing else you need
[02:26] <Mr_Molez> argh...... aint anyone got a clue why no device nodes have been created for my cdrom drive ?
[02:26] <doinbox> ok cool
[02:27] <moyogo> i wanted to try dapper today, putting in the live-cd, it didn't get past the login screen claim a "ubuntu" user would be logged in, to no avail
[02:27] <holycow> doinbox, if there is something you need to setup via command line, its either very rare, or you are trying to do something requiring inermediate/advanced skills
[02:27] <Thunderguy> Hey Kovecses, can you say my name around the time you paste the link? I'm going to go away, and this channel is pretty crowded
[02:27] <moyogo> is there a default password or something set ?
[02:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> moyogo: Not for the livecd.
[02:27] <doinbox> 1 more thing i have searched all over google for a way to install a bt voyager 100 modem so i can connect to aol broadband using pppoe but i cant find it anywhere please can someone help me with this
[02:27] <Niko--> hmm, so far ubuntu seems pretty good...I just switched from fedora today
[02:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> moyogo: It's still a developmental release, so it's possible you've hit a bug.
[02:27] <holycow> doinbox, the one exception is when people install ubuntu without research, for example they try to install ubuntu on non supported hardware ... in that case its the users fault, you haveto make sure you have supported hardware
[02:27] <moyogo> PuMpErNiCkLe: aight, that's all I wanted to know
[02:27] <phreak97> anyone, how do i do a complete reinstall? i chose in synaptic to completely remove
[02:27] <phreak97> but it didnt fix it
[02:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phreak97: A complete reinstall of what?
[02:28] <nickrud> holy_cow, no, it's not the user
[02:28] <doinbox> how can a floppy disk drive not be compatible with an o/s they should be compatible with everything
[02:28] <damien_> how come i only see 4000 packages in synaptic and 17 000?
[02:28] <kameron> jadewolf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6774
[02:28] <phreak97> PuMpErNiCkLe,  VLC
[02:28] <nickrud> 's fault, really. How could they know?
[02:28] <holycow> nickrud, if the user doesn't do their research, its their fault.
[02:28] <damien_> and not*
[02:29] <kameron> jadewolf: copy and paste that into /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:29] <Mr_Molez> doinbox: http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/index.php?lang=en&id=172
[02:29] <Mr_Molez> found that in 1 second
[02:29] <mills00013> does anyone know where i can get a copy of itunes 4.9?
[02:29] <kameron> jadewolf: then: sudo apt-get update
[02:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phreak97: In synaptic, there's an option when you right-click on a package "Mark for reinstallation".
[02:29] <phreak97> PuMpErNiCkLe,  tried
[02:29] <holycow> nickrud, easy, its called research.  every consumer is required to do it.  in the freemarket its buyer beware for the most part
[02:29] <doinbox> thanks molez
[02:29] <nickrud> s/a ma/at ma/
[02:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phreak97: What happened?
[02:29] <Kovecses> ok guys took me a minut
[02:29] <Kovecses> here it is
[02:29] <Kovecses> http://www.osdir.com/Article7932.phtml
[02:30] <phreak97> PuMpErNiCkLe,  it reinstalled, then when i ran it, it still had almost no gui'
[02:30] <alekandr> Where is gnomes theme folder for user 'root'
[02:30] <holycow> Kovecses, i'll believe it when i see it
[02:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phreak97: "Almost" no GUI?
[02:30] <holycow> Kovecses, it's guaranteed not to be free either
[02:30] <kameron> alekandr: probably in /root
[02:30] <holycow> or without certain strings
[02:30] <Kovecses> holycow, did you even read the article
[02:30] <phreak97> PuMpErNiCkLe, want a screenshot?
[02:31] <nickrud> holy_cow, this is the human distro, supposedly humanity looks out for all. <laughs himself nearly to death>
[02:31] <Mr_Molez> PuMpErNiCkLe: u got ne idea y my cdrom drive aint got ne device nodes ?
[02:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phreak97: Yeah, sure - put it in the pastebin.
[02:31] <holycow> Kovecses, sure, its a useless article with no info
[02:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mr_Molez: Sorry, no clue. :(
[02:31] <Kovecses> holycow, no you have to click the link
[02:31] <phreak97> !pastebin
[02:31] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:31] <holycow> nickrud, well i agree with the ideal :) but before one can 'look out for humanity' one must 'take responsibility for their own actions'
[02:31] <Kovecses> holycow, do be a dick I wasnt saying it was going to happen .. i just said thats what i heard
[02:32] <jadewolf> kameron: thanks got it put into place
[02:32] <mfv> hi, i just downloaded Ubuntu LiveCD 5.10, and there are a bunch of questions about installation on bootup.  is the LiveCD a self-contained distro like Knoppix?
[02:32] <jadewolf> glad I still know vi pretty good :0
[02:32] <doinbox> molez  hey that link you just sent me it says download .rpm version but there are 2 rpm versions which 1 do i need sorry to do your head in
[02:32] <holycow> Kovecses, if you interpreted my comment as a slight against you ... well touche.  at worst it was neutral, i'm simply distrustfull of ms thats all.
[02:32] <kameron> jadewolf: good. if you get gpg errors, cat /etc/apt/sources.list and follow the instructions at the top.
[02:33] <Kovecses> holycow, as am i
[02:33] <diablo69> what ports woudl I have to forword to send and recieve files on xchat?
[02:33] <holycow> Kovecses, i think that would be great but the article still doesn't say anything important ... ms is known for having licences that appear free but arent really
[02:34] <Mr_Molez> doinbox: http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/download/eciadsl-usermode-0.11.tar.gz
[02:34] <holycow> and are patent restricted, as well as restricted in other ways ...
[02:34] <Kovecses> holycow, yeah they suck
[02:34] <xsquared> could someone please look at this: http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=network5fh.jpg and tell me what i have to do to allow me to connect to the 10.0.0.xxx network?
[02:34] <phreak97> PuMpErNiCkLe,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6775
[02:34] <holycow> if ms decides to completely open up their file formats for the office suite, and completely unencumber them from patents and other weirdo clauses ... that will truly be something
[02:34] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: sup man
[02:35] <doinbox> thanks for your help man very kind of you
[02:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phreak97: That's about the same as I get from VLC when I just open it - it's just a very minimalist interface.
[02:35] <cp_> I think I found a bug which is somewhat serious, that is for 686 users who install with the 386 cd.
[02:36] <blocko> is this for noobs here?
[02:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phreak97: So unless it won't actually play music/movies for you (supported formats, I mean) I don't see it as a bug.
[02:36] <Kindred> blocko, sure
[02:36] <Kovecses> blocko, ask your question
[02:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: Yo!
[02:36] <holycow> blocko, aren't we all just newb on the great learning curve of life? :)
[02:36] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: whatcha having probs with man?
[02:36] <Mr_Molez> xsquared: umm that is confusing but i think 10.0.0.6 needs to be made to forward traffic (make it like a router/hub)
[02:36] <cp_> After rebooting the system booted from the 686 kernel, but it isn't showing up in the debian packages.  Thus it would not be updated when security updates come out.
[02:36] <navarone> holycow...very zen...:)
[02:36] <blocko> I just want to know how to run something at startup - boinc_client
[02:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: Nada - everythign works for me. :)
[02:37] <diablo69> kew kew :)
[02:37] <holycow> navarone, naw, too much caffeine :)
[02:37] <tafsen> Anyone here who can help me with WoW on Ubuntu?
[02:37] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: can you send and recive files on irc?
[02:37] <cp_> So how do I report it without adding my email address to the spam harveted bugzilla?
[02:37] <navarone> holycow...close enuff
[02:37] <mfv> hi, i just downloaded Ubuntu LiveCD 5.10, and there are a bunch of questions about installation on bootup.  is the LiveCD a self-contained distro like Knoppix?
[02:37] <holycow> lol! indeed!
[02:37] <xsquared> Mr_Molez: that is my workstation.. i do route traffic from 192.168.0.xxx to 10.0.0.xxx.... i would just like to know how to make it go the other way
[02:37] <Seveas> mfv, no
[02:38] <ubuntu> Anyone here have experience of updating Debian -> Ubuntu?
[02:38] <navarone> holycow, a chai latte can be heaven when needed...lol
[02:38] <Kovecses> mfv, i thought it was... i think you may have the install cd
[02:38] <Seveas> ubuntu, it's tricky, unsupported and generally not recommended
[02:38] <Seveas> ubuntu, having said that: it's been reported to work
[02:38] <holycow> that should count as my good deed for the year
[02:38] <holycow> *cough*
[02:38] <fasmo> holaaa
[02:38] <Kovecses> ubuntu, its better to do a fresh install
[02:38] <phreak97> PuMpErNiCkLe, i'd like to be able to start a video over again without reopening it
[02:38] <ubuntu> Clean install then?  I already have debian installed
[02:38] <Niko--> hmph...ubuntu doesn't by default allow users to have access to other mounted volumes (e.g., vfat, etc)?
[02:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: Nope, I'm behind a hardware firewall.
[02:38] <blocko> i have a script, but where does it go
[02:38] <phreak97> it at least gave me a stop button before
[02:39] <mfv> Kovecses: i downloaded ubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso
[02:39] <holycow> ubuntu, also backing up yoru files is trivial.  get a cd or a usb stick and copy your home dir to it
[02:39] <Mr_Molez> xsquared: duno.. but 10.0.0.6 needs to be doing the routing between the 2 networks
[02:39] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: wouldn't a firewall be considered a router as well?
[02:39] <holycow> reinstall ubuntu from scratch copy home back, your done
[02:39] <Kovecses> mfv, what kind of questions?
[02:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phreak97: It doesn't show a pause / FF /RW button when it's playing media?
[02:39] <xsquared> Mr_Molez: yeah, im trying to find out, but no-one can help me :'-(
[02:39] <ubuntu> What about system configuration?
[02:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: It's a dlink, so it can also be considered a piece of shit. :)
[02:39] <johndarkhorse> PuMpErNiCkLe: that belongs in the barnyard, not here please
[02:40] <navarone> will files in home directory for debian system be fully compatible w/ ubuntu based one?
[02:40] <Mr_Molez> xsquared: is a firewall only allowing 10.0.0* ?
[02:40] <holycow> ubuntu, what about it?  this is a debian distro .. the kernel will load up all the drivers it needs
[02:40] <johndarkhorse> navarone: technically yes.
[02:40] <xsquared> Mr_Molez: no
[02:40] <holycow> ubuntu, the only thing you need to worry about is non supported hardware, but if you have debian running, ubuntu will be no prob
[02:40] <ubuntu> Yeah but I have firewall configured/apache/ssh etc etc...
[02:40] <xsquared> Mr_Molez: no firewall, just using iptables to gateway
[02:40] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: tru, but I was reading something about my ati radion 9250 card, member how it froze at startup , I took out my card and now it works flawlessly, I read that there is drivers to it
[02:40] <diablo69> is that tru?
[02:41] <Mr_Molez> xsquared: they are all on the same subnet yes ?
[02:41] <navarone> johndarkhorse, I thought so...but maybe present problems as far as progs that are geared with ubuntu and not vanilla debian I would think
[02:41] <xsquared> is it possible to have 2 gateways?
[02:41] <xsquared> yes they are on the same subnet
[02:41] <phreak97> PuMpErNiCkLe, no, thats the problem
[02:41] <holycow> ubuntu, that is a bit trickier, and it depends on the app.  it is possible to restore those properly but ... if you don't know how to do it, its faster to reinstall from scratch than it is to learn how to backup those apps seaparately
[02:41] <Niko--> how come when ntfs is mounted it sets the directory as root-readable only but when vfat is mounted anyone can read it?
[02:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: Yes, and no... ati does provide drivers, but they're not very good, and there are free/open source drivers made through reverse engineering, but they're not very copmlete either.
[02:41] <Mr_Molez> xsquared: yeh it should be
[02:41] <phreak97> it shows pause/play (theyre the same button) and thats all
[02:41] <diablo69> should I just get a nvidia then?
[02:41] <Kovecses> fglrx works flawless for me
[02:42] <ubuntu> What does ubuntu give me that Debian doesn't?  or is that a dumb question?
[02:42] <phreak97> ill restart and see shall i? i did reinstall
[02:42] <mfv> Kovecses: well there is an error reading from the CD, but it also asks what modules to install for installation... i believe things like PCMCIA, etc...
[02:42] <lostblur> anyone got a link handy for sharing MOUNTED NTFS drives within a linux box, on to the rest of the network? my eyes are bleeding from reading through a ton of inapplicable search results.
[02:42] <kameron> jadewolf: all going well?
[02:42] <Kovecses> ubuntu, newer software
[02:42] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: If you think you'll be doing a lot of 3d stuff - ie, games - then nVidia/high-end Intel integrated are the only options.
[02:42] <johndarkhorse> navarone: the only real differences are in the deb pkg names and versions numbers (there are some binary differences, too) but your programs should run fine (rename your existing homedir and move over one ./.dir at a time to check compatibility)
[02:42] <ubuntu> I do find Debian a bit pedestrian
[02:42] <holycow> ubuntu, nothing really, except ubuntu takes debian unstable, freezes it and applies lots of cash and handpolish to make it work as a desktop.  in debian you would haveto do that work your self
[02:42] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phreak97: sure, let me know if it fixes it
[02:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phreak97: I'll check to see if anyone else has reported the same problem.
[02:43] <Kovecses> PuMpErNiCkLe, how long has it been since youve used ati
[02:43] <navarone> johndarkhorse, I wasn't planning on attenpting...just thinking out loud...lol
[02:43] <phreak97> ok
[02:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Kovecses: Since I stopped using my parents' Mac. :)
[02:43] <diablo69> I'm going to see fi xwine will run a game
[02:43] <phreak97> it worked fine till today
[02:43] <ubuntu> I like the idea of someone else doing the polishing
[02:43] <phreak97> brb
[02:43] <Kovecses> PuMpErNiCkLe, the drivers are very good now...
[02:43] <Kovecses> PuMpErNiCkLe, still not open source though
[02:43] <holycow> ubuntu, striking a balance between 'power and configurability' versus ' preconfiguring a distro for the desktop' are mutually exclusive.  its not that you can't get ubuntu to do anything else, its just that its polished up for you so you don't haveto do it your self.  plus you have the latest and greatest toys
[02:44] <kameron> mwe: okay, i found out i can use a usb repeater
[02:44] <Carl> I'm having trouble accesing a fat32 partition from ubuntu can somone help me?
[02:44] <holycow> ubuntu, i use ubuntu for desktop only, debian for servers.  you cannot beat debian officially supporting 16k packages and for a server thats fantastic
[02:44] <xsquared> Carl: did you mount it?
[02:44] <Seveas> holycow, and nonsense :)
[02:45] <ubuntu> SO... worth the effort of upgrading, or is that an 'it depends'?
[02:45] <holycow> although if ubuntu decides to do somethin evil, i'm going back to debian on desktop in a second :)
[02:45] <Kovecses> ubuntu, it depends
[02:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Kovecses: Does that cover their newer products, too? ;)
[02:45] <holycow> and then there are those that disagree with me ... *cough* :)
[02:45] <Kovecses> PuMpErNiCkLe, im using a brand new card
[02:45] <johndarkhorse> Carl: check your fstab permissions
[02:45] <Carl> mount?
[02:45] <Carl> ???
[02:45] <ubuntu> I thought so, this is a server I'm talking abot, but not production
[02:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Kovecses: hm.  This is news to me...
[02:45] <xsquared> omgwtfbbq
[02:46] <Carl> it just gave me an message -you do not have permissions necessary
[02:46] <xsquared> mount the drive. then you can access it
[02:46] <lostblur> anyone got a link handy for sharing MOUNTED NTFS drives on to the rest of the LAN? my eyes are bleeding from reading through a ton of inapplicable search results.
[02:46] <Kovecses> holycow, like become not free?
[02:46] <Seveas> lostblur, system -> admin -> shared folders
[02:46] <Carl> I'm a linux newbie
[02:46] <Dreamglider> how do i fix a broken package ?
[02:46] <nickrud> holy_cow, how could anyone dissent from that?
[02:46] <xsquared> Carl: man mount
[02:46] <holycow> Kovecses, well marks opinion on dcc is currently rubbing me the wrong way for example
[02:46] <Carl> how do I mount?
[02:46] <Kovecses> holycow, dcc?
[02:46] <xsquared> Carl: man mount
[02:47] <Carl> I'm sure that is probably the stupid question ever
[02:47] <holycow> albeit mark is right about their lsb approach .. Kovecses dcc alliance
[02:47] <CarlFK> lostblur and Carl - if you are doing windows things, check out  http://www.fs-driver.org  "It provides Windows NT4.0/2000/XP with full access to Linux Ext2 volumes (read access and write access)."
[02:47] <xsquared> but since your new, its all good
[02:47] <lostblur> thanks seveas & carl
[02:47] <ubuntu> holycow:  Thanks for the info.. I'll continue to think about it.
[02:48] <Carl> I want to read a fat32 partition from linux though
[02:48] <Kovecses> ubuntu, are you running sarge?
[02:48] <ubuntu> Daft question:  how do I find out?
[02:48] <holycow> ubuntu, sure just a rough outline from my perspective, try maybe getting vmware and running ubuntu server under that to test if you don't have a spare machine
[02:48] <holycow> or whatever vm environment youfancy
[02:48] <navarone> Carl there is a script called win_macfstab that you can dl and run to setup your drives to auto mount...if someone could provide link...
[02:48] <Kovecses> ubuntu, you dont know what version of debian you are running
[02:49] <Carl> ok
[02:49] <ubuntu> Think it's now STABLE, is that Woody?
[02:49] <Bachstudies> After starting my computer I received a Grub error 17...Is there anyway to retrieve my filesystem without reformatting?
[02:49] <Carl> that sounds good, I'm confused bout mounting though
[02:49] <cafuego> ubuntu: No, sarge.
[02:49] <xsquared> sarge
[02:49] <Kovecses> ubuntu, stable is sarge now
[02:49] <navarone> Carl I ahve used it but cannot recall the url to dl from...but it will provide instructions for using as well
[02:49] <Seveas> !tell Carl about diskmounter
[02:49] <cafuego> Mind you, if yours is OLD, it might be woody.
[02:49] <ubuntu> Easy way to make sure??
[02:50] <Seveas> Carl, ubotu just sent you a message
[02:50] <CodenameKT> ubuntu: how dare u call urself such a name
[02:50] <Seveas> ubuntu, cat /etc/issue
[02:50] <cafuego> ubuntu: 'uname -r' -> what does that say?
[02:50] <navarone> Seveas is diskmounter worth looking into...instead of running win_mac script?
[02:50] <Seveas> navarone, it's a rename :)
[02:50] <navarone> ok
[02:50] <dawid> hi, in which file is my video config located.. i want to manually change refresh rate
[02:51] <ubuntu> That says: 2.6.8-2-386
[02:51] <cafuego> ubuntu: That's sarge
[02:51] <Kovecses> sarge
[02:51] <hydroksyde> dawid, /etc/X11/xorg.conf I guess
[02:51] <ubuntu> I'm on sarge then.  Does that make a difference?
[02:51] <navarone> whenever I see "sarge" I wanna shout "ten-hut"...maybe jsut me...;)
[02:51] <Kovecses> ubuntu, you didnt install yourself?
[02:51] <phreak97> PuMpErNiCkLe, no good
[02:52] <ubuntu> Yes, I installed it
[02:52] <phreak97> and i got a bunch of errors when i closed it too
[02:52] <Toma-> !freenx
[02:52] <ubotu> I guess freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[02:52] <dawid> okay i found.. refresh 43-60, should i change that to 60-85?
[02:52] <tafsen> glxgears should shove me some 3d in movement right?
[02:53] <holycow> tafsen, yep
[02:53] <ubuntu> So is Sarge a problem?
[02:53] <tafsen> holycow, well.. I only see some red color and a litle movement
[02:53] <Kovecses> no sarge is great
[02:53] <cafuego> ubuntu: problem for what? (I just walked in)
[02:54] <ubuntu> I'm thinking og *upgrading* to Ubuntu
[02:54] <ubuntu> s/og/of
[02:54] <Toma-> Seveas: nxclient needs stdc++2? doesnt it compile with 5 ?
[02:54] <holycow> tafsen, that means you either dont have a vid card with 3d accelration (do they still make those?) or you havent installed drivers that have 3d acceleration support for your card.
[02:54] <cafuego> ubuntu: Ah... by doing a dist-upgrade? it will _probably_ work, but you _will_ need to tweak stuff manually afterwards.
[02:54] <_null> how can I remove all packages which I installed from a custom repo?
[02:54] <tafsen> holycow, glxinfo | grep direct
[02:54] <tafsen> direct rendering: Yes
[02:55] <Seveas> Toma-, nxclient isn't open source, I didn't compile it
[02:55] <Toma-> Seveas: ahhh ok. thx :)
[02:55] <ubuntu> I can tweak. I just don't want to spend weeks doing it
[02:55] <cafuego> ubuntu: Any chance you can backup, wipe, install Ubuntu?
[02:55] <ubuntu> That's an option.  Better idea?
[02:56] <tafsen> holycow, does that say you anything?
[02:56] <cafuego> ubuntu: it's by far the best way to go.
[02:56] <holycow> tafsen, no, what question are you trying to answer?
[02:56] <cafuego> _null: Select them in Synaptic, remove them.
[02:56] <_null> cafuego, i don't know which one belongs to which repo...
[02:56] <ubuntu> cafuego: thanks for the advice
[02:56] <cafuego> _null: ... here endeth the lesson.
[02:57] <mr-russ> are ubuntu packages compiled with thread safety by default if a package has the option?
[02:57] <cafuego> _null: Did you originally install them using synaptic?
[02:57] <_null> cafuego, no ;)
[02:57] <cafuego> _null: Then there won't be a log, so you're stuffed.
[02:57] <dawid> exit
[02:57] <tafsen> holycow, im trying to get my 3d card work.  I played WoW in Windows so I know it should work.
[02:57] <_null> cafuego, ok. :)
[02:57] <ubuntu> How does Ubuntu do for Python support?  Anyone here a Pythoneer?
[02:58] <cafuego> tafsen: that's not guaranteed. Is it an S3? ;-)
[02:58] <holycow> tafsen, well thats different, what video card do you have?
[02:58] <_null> cafuego, not a big problem... backup replay :p
[02:58] <cafuego> ubuntu: Ubuntu si virtually built around python.
[02:58] <pierre__> bonsoir a tous
[02:58] <deang> ubuntu : I haven't been disappointed.   What are you looking for?
[02:58] <tim__> hello
[02:58] <tafsen> holycow, I have a 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
[02:58] <sparkalo> Hey every body!  My wireless connection finally works ^_^
[02:58] <tim__> anyone feel like helping a linux newb
[02:58] <ubuntu> Debian seems to be a bit 'behind the curve'.
[02:58] <holycow> tafsen, from what i remember you can pretty well forget getting 3d acceleration for itunder linux
[02:59] <cafuego> _null: You could try 'dpkg -l' and see if there are any odd-looking version strings.
[02:59] <pierre__> hello i have intall unbunto since 5 minutes and it's the first time that i use linux
[02:59] <ubuntu> Nothing specific
[02:59] <pierre__> a question please
[02:59] <sparkalo> congratulations pierre
[02:59] <pierre__> :-)
[02:59] <_null> cafuego, ok
[02:59] <cafuego> !listkeys 855
[02:59] <ubotu> Factoid search of '855' by key returned no results.
[02:59] <holycow> tafsen, google to see if you can get linux 3d acceleration to work on it, but unless its an nvidia card/video chipset, forget it
[02:59] <dawid> what web browser do u recommend?
[02:59] <cafuego> !listvals 855
[02:59] <ubotu> Factoid search of '855' by value returned no results.
[02:59] <cafuego> Hmm.
[02:59] <pierre__> how can i install the support to read mp3 please ?
[02:59] <sparkalo> Firefox of course : P
[03:00] <tim__> what is the equivilent of xp's disk manager in linux?
[03:00] <tim__> im using ubuntu
[03:00] <holycow> disk manager? what does that do?
[03:00] <pierre__> i search a consol to type a command but i don't find it
[03:00] <navarone> tim what are you trying to accomplish?
[03:00] <tim__> like fdisk
[03:00] <pierre__> ?
[03:00] <pierre__> please
[03:00] <cafuego> tim__: try 'gparted'
[03:00] <holycow> what cafuego said
[03:00] <tim__> in terminal window?
[03:01] <ubuntu> pierre: What are u trying to do?
[03:01] <cafuego> tim__: (or fdisk :-)
[03:01] <Toma-> i think ive got a serious gtk problem :/ it locks the system up hard (except the mouse) quite randomly... for instance, selecting more than 3 packages to remove with synaptic, and even starting nxclient...
[03:01] <holycow> tim you need to install it first
[03:01] <pierre__> can someone help me ?
[03:01] <holycow> use synaptic to install it, system/prefs
[03:01] <holycow> pierre__, just ask
[03:01] <holycow> oh sorry you did :)
[03:01] <holycow> hehe
[03:01] <navarone> tim__, gparted is like Partition Magic in windows...graphical interface for resizing/creating partitions and such
[03:01] <ubuntu> pierre: I'm listening
[03:01] <cafuego> pierre__: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[03:02] <bluefoxicy> my damned ipod is too slow.
[03:02] <cafuego> tim__: Also check System -> Administration -> Disks
[03:02] <holycow> cafuego, well after he installs it it will appear under applications/system actually
[03:02] <pierre__> thank you very much cafuego
[03:02] <Toma-> anyone know where gtk logs its errors?
[03:03] <cafuego> pierre__: No problem. Install 'nautilus-open-terminal' - then you have a 'terminal' option in the right-click menu everywhere.
[03:03] <cafuego> Toma-: stdout (~/.xsession-errors)
[03:03] <kameron> Toma-: did you check /var/logs ?
[03:03] <Eleaf> what are some good internet radio stations?
[03:03] <Eleaf> omg
[03:03] <Eleaf> Sorry wrong place
[03:03] <Eleaf> lol
[03:03] <tafsen> holycow, Check for the "drm" module in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. It should be in there, along with the other modules, at the top of the file.
[03:04] <Eleaf> Have a good day everybody!
[03:04] <Eleaf> lol
[03:04] <tafsen> holycow, what does that mean?
[03:04] <sparkalo> hey guys, in my /etc/interfaces/network thing, is the syntax "wireless_mode managed" or "wireless-mode managed"?
[03:04] <cafuego> sparkalo: both are fine
[03:04] <cafuego> Use what you think looks nicer ;-)
[03:04] <Toma-> kameron: yeh. ive tried having /var/log/messages, dmesg, Xorg.log and top all running with tail -f on the desktop then recreating the error. cant get any feedback
[03:04] <Toma-> >:/
[03:04] <pierre__> cafuego sorry just another question
[03:05] <cafuego> pierre__: go ahead
[03:05] <holycow> tafsen, not sure why you are giving me xorg info, check your tab completion?
[03:05] <pierre__> i want to install some file to read mp3
[03:05] <cafuego> this channel is for asking questions, no need to ask if you can ask them.
[03:05] <pierre__> on doc ubuntu
[03:05] <cafuego> pierre__: read or play?
[03:05] <Toma-> i get this... (synaptic:8378): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[03:05] <pierre__> i find sudo apt-get install k3b-mp3
[03:05] <Toma-> when opening gtk apps....
[03:05] <pierre__> play
[03:06] <tim__> ok i get fdisk, is there something a little easier to work with i plugged in a raid tower to a dpt scsi card, i dont know if the new drives are even detected
[03:06] <cafuego> pierre__: gstreamer0.8-mad (for the Gnome sound apps)
[03:06] <sethk> Toma-, everyone gets that.  ignore it
[03:06] <Toma-> ok.
[03:06] <pierre__> and how you install it ? i'm beginner
[03:06] <kameron> Toma- geesh, that sucks.
[03:06] <jadewolf> kameron: what do I apt-get to setup nvidia again?
[03:06] <cafuego> pierre__: Probably just get gstreamer0.8-plugins and gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse.
[03:06] <casey> does anyone have wake on lan working with Ubuntu?
[03:06] <Toma-> time to recreate. ie,  crash the system. brb
[03:06] <cafuego> pierre__: System -> Administration -> Synaptic.
[03:06] <kameron> jadewolf: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:07] <pierre__> ok i test just minut
[03:07] <cafuego> pierre__: Then search for the package names, right click them... then click 'Apply'.
[03:07] <casey> apt-cache search nvidia
[03:07] <jadewolf> kameron: thanks again man, its  installing now, just waiting for apt to finish that part and I'll put in the nvnida part
[03:08] <kameron> jadewolf: cool. is X up?
[03:08] <toko123> I'd like to add mplayer
[03:08] <phreak97> PuMpErNiCkLe,  uninstalled, restarted gnome, reinstalled, all works
[03:08] <cafuego> !info mplayer
[03:08] <toko123> is their a miltiverse repository?
[03:08] <cafuego> toko123: multiverse, yes
[03:08] <toko123> !info mplayer
[03:09] <jadewolf> kameron: no still installing right now
[03:09] <toko123> can someone please give me a repostory url
[03:09] <holycow> miltiverse?
[03:09] <kameron> jadewolf: cool
[03:09] <holycow> hahaha!
[03:09] <kameron> !tell toko123 about easysource
[03:09] <cafuego> toko123: Just add 'multiverse' at the end of an existing line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:09] <holycow> :)
[03:10] <toko123> easysource
[03:10] <toko123> ?
[03:10] <dawid> hey um, so how is every1 today
[03:10] <pierre__> cafuego : ok i have install gstreamer after ?
[03:11] <toko123> I have synaptic repositories open
[03:11] <cafuego> pierre__: if you make sure gstreamer0.8-plugins and gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse are installed, you'll be fine.
[03:11] <kameron> toko123: it guides you in setting up /etc/apt/sources.list the "community" supported packages is multiverse and others
[03:11] <cafuego> toko123: just add multiverse in to one of them then
[03:12] <kameron> cafeugo: how do you know if the mirrors he has are synched to a multiverse repo?
[03:12] <Eleaf> lol
[03:12] <Eleaf> hi cafuego
[03:12] <Eleaf> lol
[03:12] <cafuego> kameron: Coz if he use sa nonnstandard mirror he'd have more issues.
[03:12] <kameron> very true
[03:12] <LetterRip> hello all, is there a channel dedicated to Rosetta?
[03:12] <toko123> thanks
[03:13] <cafuego> pierre__: Afterwards, use 'rhythmbox' to play MP#s.
[03:13] <Toma-> no luck. still not output to xsessionerrors
[03:13] <cafuego> Toma-: ~/.xsession-errors
[03:13] <cafuego> Note the typography.
[03:13] <Toma-> err yes. i know.
[03:14] <hou5ton> is there a list of the things I need to install to play Quicktime video's off the web?
[03:14] <Toma-> note the slackness :)
[03:15] <MonsterCookie> does anyone knows how to stop the (offical) flash plugin for firefox from grabbing exclusive use of /dev/dsp (even tho i have an audigy card with hardware mixing and i am using alsa not oss) ? I have tried all the stuff i can find in the forums to solve this.
[03:15] <jadewolf> brb
[03:15] <Toma-> MonsterCookie: tried loading the snd-oss module?
[03:15] <holycow> houston, there are totem plugins that are supposed to play them, but they aren't ready this release and actually should be manually removed
[03:16] <toko123> mplayer 386 586.. which one tom use?
[03:16] <holycow> houston, try synaptic and try installing some mplayer or vlc plugins for mozilla
[03:16] <holycow> totem doesn't use mplayer at all toko
[03:16] <_jason> toko123, read the description of 586.  If you can use it, use 586
[03:16] <pierre__> grrr not work
[03:16] <toko123> athlon 1,000 hz 256 mb matrox 32 mb
[03:16] <kameron> holycow, totem uses xine?
[03:16] <pierre__> i have install gstream
[03:17] <holycow> oh 'which one TO use' hahaha! *blink*
[03:17] <MonsterCookie> Toma-, i have tried the alsa-oss package, but i can't find one by that name
[03:17] <toko123> nvidia drivwre
[03:17] <pierre__> but the exact name of the file that you give me is not in it
[03:17] <Bor_> hello
[03:17] <holycow> kameron, either xine or gstreamer.  xine backend generally works better for now
[03:17] <Eleaf> toko123, is that your dream machine?
[03:17] <pierre__> cafuego ?
[03:17] <Toma-> MonsterCookie: i couldnt find the module i was thinking of just then either...
[03:17] <tim__> can anyone recommend a good place to go for people just starting out with linux? i ma trying to set up a file server on my home network and i am so lost i dont even know the right questions to ask or where to begin
[03:17] <kameron> holycow, okay.
[03:18] <_jason> tim__, help.ubuntu.com, wiki.ubuntu.com, ubuntuforums.org
[03:18] <tim__> thanks jason
[03:18] <nickrud> tim__, tldp.org as well
[03:18] <holycow> tim__, well the right thing often to do is to shut it off and sleep on it.  newbs are usually overwhelmed by the options it helps to let the mind move the info from short term to long term memory
[03:18] <holycow> :) in addition to suggestions above of course
[03:18] <adtherat> Hey, first, I like to say hey to everyone ^^;
[03:18] <MonsterCookie> was it the one i said, or some other one you were thinking of Toma- ? this problem is *really* annoying me :-( I'm not exactly a newbie or bad at searching, but the answer evades me
[03:19] <holycow> its funny how things start to makes sense all of a sudden where once you were looking at a forest of infinite possibility
[03:19] <pierre__> cafuego ? please ?
[03:19] <tim__> that is probobly a good idea the last 10 times i tried linux i just got so frustrated i reformatted went back to windows
[03:19] <tafsen> anyone here that can help me with xorg.conf ?
[03:19] <pierre__> someone to help a beginner to install mp3 codec on ubuntu pleaseeee ?
[03:20] <toko123> Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-22  but it is not installable
[03:20] <toko123>  Depends: libggi2 (>=1:2.0.5) but it is not installable
[03:20] <toko123>  Depends: xmms (>=1.2.10+cvs20050209) but it is not installable
[03:20] <holycow> tim__, the other thing people forget is that they have 15 years or more of training on windows, you can't replace 15 years of training with 10 days of trying
[03:20] <toko123> wtf
[03:20] <HilBilly> how can I install mplayer using synaptic in ubuntu?
[03:20] <holycow> tafsen, pretty much all your questions can be answered in the wiki.ubuntu.com ... most people have similar questions to yours and usually they also have found a solution / explanation that makes sense to noobs
[03:20] <toko123> trying to intall mplayer
[03:20] <pierre__> someone ?
[03:20] <holycow> HilBilly, search for mplayer, select it, install it?
[03:20] <mr-russ> where can I ask development question/bug question? here?
[03:21] <HilBilly> I search, get no results
[03:21] <pierre__> holycow can you help me ?
[03:21] <tim__> great point holycow im sure my problem is a bit of ego too, i have always been able to do whatever i needed to do and this is a lot more work
[03:21] <holycow> pierre__, go to ubuntu.com search for restricted formats.  go to that page and in tehre you will find info on how to install w32codecs
[03:21] <holycow> mp3 support is in w32codecs ... that should be all you need
[03:21] <tim__> if that makes any sense
[03:22] <adtherat> secondly, during updating, it says that there's a new release of Ubuntu available, see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ for upgrade instructions, but after looking for a bit, I could not find anything for upgrading, just getting a CD image. Mind if anyone could tell where to look at for upgrade instructions or how to upgrade Ubuntu?
[03:22] <Kindred> !w32codecs
[03:22] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[03:22] <jedi> any x86_64 users get good multimedia support?
[03:22] <pierre__> ok tanks
[03:22] <holycow> tim__, also make sure you uninstall totem-gstreamer and install totem-xine just to be sure
[03:22] <holycow> errr.... last point was for whoever was asking for mp3 info
[03:22] <holycow> sorry tim__
[03:22] <toko123> holy_cow, I try to intall mplaer but the dependendcies are unavailabel?
[03:22] <tafsen> Under Section "Module" In xorg.conf, I need to add Load "drm" to get the drm to load?
[03:22] <toko123> Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-22  but it is not installable
[03:22] <toko123>  Depends: libggi2 (>=1:2.0.5) but it is not installable
[03:22] <toko123>  Depends: xmms (>=1.2.10+cvs20050209) but it is not installable
[03:23] <Kindred> adtherat, what release do you have?
[03:23] <holycow> toko123, are you running ubuntu breezy?
[03:23] <Toma-> toko123: what are u installing?
[03:23] <toko123> running 5.10
[03:23] <MonsterCookie> holy_cow, i believe you're right and that the w32codecs only work with totem-xine and not totem-gstreamer
[03:23] <toko123> kubuntu
[03:23] <tim__> you have been great i appreciate the help, hopefully next time i come back i will know the right questions to ask
[03:23] <adtherat> Kindred, I'm running breezy, yes
[03:23] <holycow> MonsterCookie, just an fyi, totem-gstreamer has an mp3 plugin all its own, but i don't use it so don't know
[03:23] <damien_> ok, someone please tell me why there's about 13 000 packages missing when i run synaptic?
[03:24] <holycow> damien_, because by default ubuntu only supports 2000 or so
[03:24] <adtherat> Kindred, I'm running breezy, I think, let me double check :P
[03:24] <holycow> damien_, enable the other repos to get the unsupported packages
[03:24] <MonsterCookie> i know that, holy_cow ;) i use it
[03:24] <damien_> oh crap...
[03:24] <Kindred> adtherat, yeah the next release is still in development, you likely wouldn't want that
[03:24] <Eleaf> damien_, what?
[03:24] <holycow> MonsterCookie, sorry :) appologies
[03:24] <damien_> i should've known
[03:24] <tafsen> holycow: I didn't find anything, som maybee you can answer if it's Under Section "Module" In xorg.conf, I need to add Load "drm" to get the drm to load?
[03:24] <adtherat> Kindred, 5.04, I'm running
[03:24] <damien_> holy_cow, i forgot about universe :P
[03:24] <Carl> ok, I have a fat32 partition and I want to read/rite in linux as well as windows, windows recognizes it fine, linux it sees it and displays it as sd1, when I click on it it comes up with "the folder contents could not be displayed, you do not have the permissions necessary to vew the contents of "sda1" "
[03:24] <Eleaf> damien_, what?  why are you so 'sad'?
[03:24] <MonsterCookie> i use gstreamer/totem and i have mplayer so's to have the best of both worlds. no probs, holy_cow, you weren't to know :P
[03:24] <toko123> Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-22  but it is not installable
[03:25] <holycow> tafsen, i forgot what you are trying to solve here sorry ... what are you doing again?
[03:25] <toko123> ?
[03:25] <ubuntubooger> ahh i am rtying to get my buddy hooked up with breezy and the install goes fine but then i get a error 25 on the grub loader
[03:25] <ubuntubooger> Seveas, please help me
[03:25] <Kindred> adtherat, ah okay that's hoary - you'll probably want to upgrade then - have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:26] <tafsen> holycow: Im trying to fix my 3d acc, And I found out that the drm module isn't loaded and that could be an problem. So Im trying to load it :)
[03:26] <Dreamglider> sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:26] <adtherat> ah thanks. Aye. Yeah, got the names mixed up. ^^; Dis-lex-tica does that to you
[03:26] <Dreamglider> adtherat,
[03:26] <deang> Carl:  http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files
[03:27] <holycow> tafsen, you need to know what video card you are running, and then google the support info.  unless you are running nvidia i have no clue i never buy hardware without nvidia cards if i want 3d acceleration
[03:27] <ubuntubooger> error 25.... bueler bueller
[03:27] <holycow> tafsen, otherwise i settle for plain 2d acceleration using whatever drivers are available
[03:27] <holycow> tafsen, in otherwords, i don't know how to setup your card, sorry
[03:27] <Kindred> Dreamglider, don't just say that, they'll end up with a half completed dapper..
[03:27] <Carl> I've been there but I don't know what 2 do with the discmounter program
[03:27] <dawid> why when i set the permissions of a folder doesnt it set the same for those under it?
[03:27] <tafsen> holycow: I have googled and found out that I need to load the drm
[03:27] <Dreamglider> sorry
[03:28] <sethk> dawid, why would it?
[03:28] <holycow> tafsen, not sure what a drm module is ... :/ sorry, try the wiki maybe.  the nvidia install doesn't require me to know much :)
[03:29] <perrygeo> anyone tried automatix on Dapper?
[03:29] <CookieNinja> no. what does it do, perrygeo ?
[03:29] <holycow> tafsen, as a guess it ought to be under section 'module' add load 'drm' and restart x server
[03:29] <guest666> has anyone else seen this issue at the top of this post http://www.eggheads.org/pipermail/eggheads/2005-June/012086.html ?
[03:30] <dawid> well how can i imply it to do that?
[03:30] <perrygeo> CookieNinja: installs all sorts of "extras" on top of breezy.. java, flash, codecs, etc
[03:30] <Carl> ok, I have a fat32 partition and I want to read/rite in linux as well as windows, windows recognizes it fine, linux it sees it and displays it as sd1, when I click on it it comes up with "the folder contents could not be displayed, you do not have the permissions necessary to vew the contents of "sda1" " everybody keeps pointing me to "diskmounter" I've found this file but do not know how 2 use it, please help
[03:30] <CookieNinja> ahh, rings a bell, perrygeo. i've heard of it. i thought it was for versions earlier than dapper
[03:30] <holycow> Carl, you have that drive in a usb cradle?
[03:31] <_jason> Carl, use the umask=000 option
[03:31] <Carl> nope
[03:31] <holycow> Carl, its on the ide chain?
[03:31] <_jason> Carl, umask=0000, four zeros i think
[03:31] <Carl> just a regular hd
[03:31] <perrygeo> CookieNinja: yep. that's why I wanted to ask before I tried it on dapper ;-)
[03:31] <holycow> Carl, sda1 doesn't sound right, it should be more like hda1
[03:31] <Carl> what is that - umask
[03:31] <CookieNinja> be a brave man, perrygeo, and try it
[03:31] <CodenameKT> hold on guys
[03:31] <Carl> ???
[03:31] <Carl> hmm
[03:31] <CookieNinja> then you can tell everyone else, perrygeo
[03:31] <nickrud> perrygeo, you should read the script first, see what it does
[03:31] <guest666> hi,
[03:31] <guest666> I also have an eggdrop on an ubuntu pc but it doesnt either start
[03:31] <guest666> without the -nt switches and i dont even use X... So i believe that the
[03:31] <guest666> problem is at the ubuntu configuration itself... Have you seen an
[03:31] <guest666> eggdrop working at Ubuntu distro?
[03:31] <CodenameKT> Carl: wait a second...is ur hard drive a scsi?
[03:31] <Carl> what is sda?
[03:31] <dawid> sethk : Well how can i recursively set permissions?
[03:31] <guest666> im getting the same shit on my install, lol
[03:32] <_jason> Carl, do you understand chmod permissions?
[03:32] <boxy> I have a problem:  When i try to boot the Ubuntu DVD ISO, it boots and everything but when it trys to detect and mount my dvd drive i get "Can not mount installation cd"
[03:32] <perrygeo> nickrud: fairly simple.. just alot of apt-gets for the most part
[03:32] <holycow> Carl, usually a usb device shows up as sda1 or 2 or 3 or whatever .. depends
[03:32] <sethk> dawid, use the -R flag to chmod
[03:32] <CodenameKT> Carl: nm ur hard drive is scsi instead of normal ide that is why it is under sda1 or an sda
[03:32] <perrygeo> here goes nothing...
[03:32] <George__> hey guys
[03:32] <CookieNinja> my understanding of what's involved, perrygeo, would lead me to believe that it will probably be fine
[03:32] <tuvok302> has anyone managed to get the Intel536EP driver to work? it keeps saying i need to install the kernel source
[03:32] <pinS> how do i update "linux-image-386"
[03:32] <Carl> I have one drive that is scsi but not the one with that peticular partition I want to get at on
[03:32] <holycow> Carl, do fdisk -l, that should show you all your partitions on your ide chains
[03:32] <CookieNinja> but i am guessing, perrygeo
[03:32] <pinS> ??
[03:32] <nickrud> perrygeo, then do them yourself, trust no one :)
[03:32] <CodenameKT> Carl: in order to mount it properly go to /etc/fstab and find the line that is mounting it
[03:32] <Dreamglider> what's the latest ubuntu release ?
[03:32] <George__> I got a annyong problem, and It is making me feel like saying the f word :P, My wireless connection is detected in Ubuntu but not wokring. It's a IBM R40 Laptop
[03:33] <holycow> what CodenameKT said
[03:33] <phreak97> can some help me out? double clicking a link in xchat doesnt open it
[03:33] <dawid> sethk : well i was using nautilus, is there a way to do it in nautilus
[03:33] <George__> How i get ubuntu to do dhcp?
[03:33] <Carl> I'm confused can someone help me in a pm?
[03:33] <sethk> dawid, I have no idea, I wouldn't dream of trying to do it that way
[03:33] <holycow> phreak97, chances are its stuck, your supposed to only single click on icons in the panel
[03:33] <dawid> hehe
[03:33] <George__> I have not used Ubuntu before, there's no dhcpcd or something. There is ifconfig
[03:33] <George__> iwconfig
[03:33] <CodenameKT> Carl: i can't pm but i did this on my comp so i most likely can assist u
[03:33] <dawid> okay no its cool its not a big deal anyways...
[03:33] <ron_> hello all
[03:33] <George__> helpp me thanks!
[03:33] <boxy> I have a problem:  When i try to boot the Ubuntu DVD ISO, it boots and everything but when it trys to detect and mount my dvd drive i get "Can not mount installation cd"
[03:34] <holycow> phreak97, try adding a system monitor applet to your panel, you can then click on that to check for duplicate/stuck processes and kill them visually
[03:34] <George__> boxy: how fast u burn isO?
[03:34] <perrygeo> Automatix on Dapper.. the script is smart enough to detect the version and won't run.. damn
[03:34] <CodenameKT> Carl: i promise i wont give u a bunch of half ansers but let us hurry. go to into your /etc/fstab
[03:34] <boxy> its not a problem with the DVD i've already tryed
[03:34] <George__> Oo :P really...
[03:34] <Carl> ok
[03:34] <phreak97> holy_cow,  XCHAT
[03:34] <ron_> anyone know how to get fglrx working in hoary?
[03:34] <phreak97> the irc client
[03:34] <George__> WiRELESs and linux, what the *@#8213
[03:35] <phreak97> if i type www.google.com and double click it, nothing happens
[03:35] <George__> XCHAT simple and easy
[03:35] <holycow> phreak97, what? is that some type of rendom response to my help suggestion?
[03:35] <sipior> George__: are you looking for dhclient?
[03:35] <boxy> George__, I also already tryed pci=noacpi and noapic noalapic
[03:35] <George__> Sipior No!
[03:35] <George__> man
[03:35] <Carl> ok I found fstab
[03:35] <George__> UMM let me tell u
[03:35] <phreak97> holy_cow, sounded like you thought i just said x
[03:35] <George__> I got everything set up
[03:35] <deang> Carl: Same here.      I saved 'diskmounter' as '~/diskmounter.sh', found it in Nautalis, checked properties and gave it Executable persmissions.   Then went to Terminal, ran 'sudo ~/diskmounter.sh' and all went well.
[03:35] <CodenameKT> Carl: did u open it up with some text editor?
[03:35] <sipior> George__: Okay!
[03:35] <George__> wireless working and stuff but ubuntu won't get me connected to the thing
[03:35] <holycow> phreak97, read my suggestion again *nod*
[03:35] <George__> It is found,
[03:35] <George__> i tried iwconfig and it there
[03:36] <Carl> ya
[03:36] <George__> no WEP ETC
[03:36] <Carl> I opened it with gedit
[03:36] <phreak97> holy_cow,  panel = text area?
[03:36] <CodenameKT> Carl: do u see the line refering to ur fat32 partition?
[03:36] <George__> I RESET THE ROUTER, and set everything up agian! So what ya think I should try??
[03:36] <phreak97> neither ever worked
[03:36] <Carl> ya
[03:36] <holycow> phreak97, nope, panels are the things at the top and bottom that hold all the icons and menues
[03:36] <phreak97> single click does nothing
[03:36] <sipior> George__: how did you invoke iwconfig?
[03:36] <phreak97> thats what i thought
[03:36] <Carl> it says vfat
[03:36] <dawid> so has any1 gotten steam to work with wine/
[03:36] <phreak97> i do only single click those
[03:36] <holycow> phreak97, most likely xchat is stuck with duplicate processes
[03:36] <CookieNinja> can you ping outside world ip addresses via the wireless card, George__ ?
[03:36] <Carl> I mounted it as /osfileshare when I partition it and I see it there
[03:37] <phreak97> i never double click them
[03:37] <George__> no that's the problem
[03:37] <holycow> right click on your top panel and add system monitor applet
[03:37] <George__> RIGHT there
[03:37] <CodenameKT> Carl: can u paste what u have under the options to this chan real quick?
[03:37] <phreak97> and links have never worked ever
[03:37] <George__> I DO not 1 get a IP,
[03:37] <phreak97> from the day i installed
[03:37] <sorush20> why do I keep getting this error?
[03:37] <George__> I set it to dhcp
[03:37] <Carl> /dev/hda6       /OSFILESHARE    vfat    defaults
[03:37] <holycow> phreak97, once you have a system monitor applet you can bring up the system process list that can show you if you have duplicate/stuck processes
[03:37] <phreak97> they underline when i hover over them
[03:37] <Carl> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[03:37] <Carl> #
[03:37] <Carl> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[03:37] <Carl> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[03:37] <Carl> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[03:37] <Carl> /dev/hda6       /OSFILESHARE    vfat    defaults        0       0
[03:37] <CodenameKT> Carl: users, owner,rw,umask000
[03:37] <Carl> /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[03:37] <Carl> /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[03:37] <CodenameKT> no no no
[03:37] <Carl> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[03:37] <CodenameKT> stop!
[03:37] <Carl> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[03:37] <CodenameKT> stop
[03:37] <CookieNinja> you don't get an ip George__ ? then it's not connecting the wireless access point
[03:37] <CodenameKT> i said just options
[03:38] <CodenameKT> not everything in file
[03:38] <CodenameKT> crap
[03:38] <Carl> ok
[03:38] <Carl> ???
[03:38] <CookieNinja> or dhcp isn't working ... but i would go with the 1st guess
[03:38] <phreak97> holy_cow,  im aware, im looking at it now, and theres only one xchat
[03:38] <phreak97> it isnt stuck
[03:38] <kameron> !tell carl about paste
[03:38] <phreak97> i can end it and restarty as much as i like and it wont help me
[03:38] <phreak97> restart*
[03:38] <holycow> phreak97, xchat just wont start?
[03:38] <holycow> phreak97, the only other thing i can suggest is trying to reinstall it
[03:38] <holycow> ;/
[03:39] <phreak97> holycow, itll start, im in it
[03:39] <phreak97> using it
[03:39] <CodenameKT> CarlFK: instead of defaults on that line that refers to vfat put what i wrote above and then umount /OSFILESHARE and then mount /OSFILESHARE
[03:39] <George__> what Ur GUESS COOKIE?
[03:39] <ubuntubooger> Seveas, please help me
[03:39] <holycow> phreak97, ? whats the problem then?
[03:39] <sipior> George__: have you confirmed that the router is providing IP addresses to other machines properly?
[03:39] <ubuntubooger> ahh i am rtying to get my buddy hooked up with breezy and the install goes fine but then i get a error 25 on the grub loader
[03:39] <phreak97> my problem is that web links dont launch firefox
[03:39] <CookieNinja> you set the password right George__ ? if you think you have & can reach the access point to read the logs .. see if it can be seen trying to connect in the logs (i'm hoping it logs this info)
[03:39] <George__> lOL
[03:39] <George__> I GOT 6 COMPUTERS
[03:39] <George__> 3 of LAPTOP
[03:39] <George__> ALL GETTING IP THIS IS WHY I AM FRUSTRATED
[03:39] <George__> my IBM Z60m works fine
[03:39] <sipior> George__: does one of them have a functional caps lock key?
[03:39] <phreak97> holycow, thats my problem.. i just didnt put your name in front to highlight for you
[03:39] <George__> Umm,,, this thing has sticky keys
[03:40] <dawid> how can i setup my keyboard shortcuts?
[03:40] <George__> anyway what u THINK i try?
[03:40] <George__> Duh
[03:40] <George__> it's in System
[03:40] <CodenameKT> johndarkhorse: why u go off and do that?
[03:40] <George__> preferneces orr whatt the heck
[03:40] <dawid> i know the keyboard works cause the volume +/- works but next track and pause dont work
[03:40] <phreak97> holycow,  also clicking a nick on the left does nothing
[03:40] <George__> and keyboard shortcuts
[03:40] <holycow> phreak97, can't help you with an xchat specific question, there are probably xchat channels around or something sorry, don't knkow it well enough
[03:40] <George__> so
[03:40] <phreak97> ok
[03:40] <phreak97> what do you use?
[03:40] <George__> SYSTEM- PREFERNCES = KEYBOARD SHORTCUTS
[03:40] <George__> there u go :P
[03:40] <phreak97> holycow, what do you use?
[03:40] <holycow> phreak97, well left isn't supposed to do anything, right gives you user info
[03:40] <holycow> phreak97, xchat
[03:41] <George__> Ideas on how to get my wireless working??
[03:41] <phreak97> if i type www.google.com and you click it, does it open?
[03:41] <sipior> George__: have you specified the essid correctly?
[03:41] <holycow> phreak97, you don't double click on the link
[03:41] <George__> essid? meaning my router thing yeah?
[03:41] <sipior> George__: yep
[03:41] <George__> yes I did
[03:41] <holycow> you right click and select open in .... whatever options it gives you
[03:41] <George__> linksys
[03:41] <CodenameKT> CarlFK: instead of defaults on that line that refers to vfat put what i wrote above and then umount /OSFILESHARE and then mount /OSFILESHARE
[03:41] <phreak97> holycow,  if you single click?
[03:41] <Carl> i'm back
[03:41] <holycow> phreak97, single right click
[03:42] <phreak97> oh, so you have to choose open in web browser?
[03:42] <holycow> do we need to smack you for not thinking to right click dude?
[03:42] <holycow> c'mon :)
[03:42] <CodenameKT> Carl: users, owner,rw,umask000 thats what u need for options
[03:42] <CookieNinja> has it got a wired connection too, George__ or just a wireless one ?
[03:42] <holycow> phreak97, what do you think? yes of course :)
[03:42] <phreak97> im making a transition from sysreset (mirc) so im still getting used to things
[03:42] <sipior> George__: no, try something like "iwlist eth1 scanning", replacing eth1 with the appropriate device
[03:42] <holycow> phreak97, its okay, but remember there is usually 2 buttons on a mouse :) hehehe
[03:42] <Carl> so enter that instead off "defaults"?
[03:42] <CodenameKT> Carl: oops it's umask=000
[03:42] <George__> ummmm I changed the name to thissucks, and put that as the essid, and now it doing something
[03:42] <CodenameKT> Carl: yes
[03:43] <George__> bah the Network Settings doing something now
[03:43] <CodenameKT> Carl: and then umount and mount again and it will let u read write
[03:43] <holycow> phreak97, note i was kidding :)
[03:43] <George__> nope still getting nothing
[03:43] <fangorious> anyone having trouble with hitting the sleep/suspend button going into suspend instead of hibernate (as specified in /etc/acpi/events/sleepbtn, and every power management I've tried in gnome and kde)
[03:44] <sipior> George__: what's the name of the interface? eth0? eth1?
[03:44] <George__> When I click COnnection Properties I dont see ETH0, or eth1
[03:44] <George__> wHY the heck is this?
[03:44] <dawid> okay so i set the shortcuts at system->prefs->kb shortcuts now how can i get xmms to play along?
[03:44] <Carl> I can't seem 2 edit fstab
[03:44] <George__> it's eth0
[03:44] <CodenameKT> make sure u r root first
[03:44] <CodenameKT> sudo gedt /etc/fstab
[03:44] <sipior> George__: then try "iwconfig eth0 essid thissucks"
[03:44] <CodenameKT> Carl: gedit rather
[03:44] <Carl> I'm a reall noob getting a little confused
[03:44] <George__> ETH0 = WIreless, ETH1 = RJ45, PPP0 = Modem
[03:44] <George__> k
[03:45] <CookieNinja> heh, George__ your essid reminded me of the name of mine, which is arsewipe .. because it was a pig to setup due to me not checking what channels everyone else around me used :s
[03:45] <Carl> I"m in gedit
[03:45] <George__> failed
[03:45] <ubuntubooger> George__, could you message me ubuntubooger
[03:45] <George__> operation not permitted
[03:45] <phreak97> holycow,  lol
[03:45] <sipior> need to be root, try sudo
[03:45] <George__> cant message u
[03:45] <CodenameKT> Carl: close gedit and open a terminal in terminal type sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[03:45] <phreak97> its just easier to avoid menus if possible
[03:45] <George__> I anit regerstrered
[03:45] <phreak97> things go quicker
[03:45] <holycow> hey guys ... instead of getting the dude to do the wierless stuff in the text file ...
[03:45] <Carl> ok
[03:45] <holycow> why don't you get them touse wifi-radar?
[03:45] <cafuego> CookieNinja: That's what 500mW transmitters are for :-P
[03:45] <holycow> its a great gui for selecting and easily setting wireless settings
[03:45] <holycow> its a one click wonder
[03:46] <George__> um Dude I got no freaken internet
[03:46] <CodenameKT> holycow: how much are they paying u?
[03:46] <George__> exect on the other ibm thinkpad
[03:46] <ClayG> anyone here know how to change the MAC on a cable modem?
[03:46] <CookieNinja> cafuego, explain ? what are they and can one attach to any wifi card ?
[03:46] <George__> lol fook, u can do that?
[03:46] <holycow> CodenameKT, :) enough to know i shouldn't haveto lif a finger :)
[03:46] <CodenameKT> ClayG: hahahaa u can't
[03:46] <nickrud> holy_cow shills for naught :)
[03:46] <ubuntubooger> someone message me i am showing my freind what will happen when he gets messaged
[03:46] <George__> I cant help
[03:46] <ubuntubooger> please
[03:47] <holycow> ubuntu__, msg your self
[03:47] <holycow> *sheesh*
[03:47] <George__> lol
[03:47] <holycow> :)
[03:47] <cafuego> CookieNinja: No, they're high power access points. Mind you, high power wifi cards are able to be had, too. Probably up to 200mW
[03:47] <Carl> ok what do I enter in there again?
[03:47] <George__> Hey, Who has any ideas what 2 do??
[03:47] <CodenameKT> Carl: enter in what?
[03:47] <CodenameKT> Carl: fstab?
[03:47] <Carl> in options
[03:47] <Carl> instead of "defaults"
[03:47] <dawid> night
[03:47] <CodenameKT> Carl: users,owner,rw,umask=000
[03:48] <sipior> George__: what was the result of running that command under sudo?
[03:48] <Carl> ok entered, what now?
[03:48] <CookieNinja> cafuego, i read that 500mw transmitters create a range of upto 20km ... aint that overkill in a wee house in london lol
[03:48] <George__> I Dont have NO SECURITY SET<>IT WONT CONNECT<> WHY?
[03:48] <CodenameKT> Carl: save and then open a terminal
[03:48] <George__> how do i kick myself?
[03:48] <Carl> ok
[03:49] <CodenameKT> Carl: in terminal do umount /osfileshare or whatever u r calling it and then mount /osfileshare
[03:49] <sipior> George__: were you responding to my question?
[03:49] <George__> yea
[03:49] <CodenameKT> oh do those commands as root again:o)
[03:49] <George__> Still the B and S word
[03:49] <George__> ok
[03:49] <George__> THIS THE PROBLEM?
[03:49] <CookieNinja> George__, does the router even see the card trying to connect ? does iwconfig show that it is connected to the router or not connected to it ?
[03:49] <CodenameKT> Carl: i forgot do the sudo umount /usfileshare and sudo mount
[03:49] <George__> DURING SETup I didn't install dhcp on it?
[03:49] <cafuego> CookieNinja: maybe up to 20KM from the top of a mountain to the next mountain, certainly not in a city. Even 200mW only gets you a 50m radius of decent reception if there's not too many buildings in the way.
[03:49] <Carl> it says that it isn't mounted
[03:50] <CodenameKT> Carl: ok then mount it
[03:50] <ubuntubooger> hey how do i get to the cli with the install  cd?
[03:50] <George__> It shows me sH*** and I dont know how 2 read it
[03:50] <Carl> it says it can't find it
[03:50] <sipior> George__: when you try "sudo iwconfig eth0 essid thissucks", nothing happens?
[03:50] <CodenameKT> Carl: can't find directory?
[03:51] <Carl> it says that it cant find it itn fstab or mtab
[03:51] <CookieNinja> do you know whether the access point should be announcing itself, George__ ? i have a linksys one that by default doesn't do so
[03:51] <Dreamglider> when will Dapper Drake be released ?
[03:51] <fangorious> Dreamglider: April
[03:51] <Ainvar> evening all
[03:52] <fangorious> any acpi gurus present?
[03:52] <Carl> ok, I think I just found it
[03:52] <Dreamglider> good morning Ainvar
[03:52] <CodenameKT> Carl: thnx I didn't want to get angry
[03:52] <iratsu> where can i get a vlc 0.8.4a package for ubuntu?
[03:52] <cafuego> !dapper
[03:52] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[03:52] <Ainvar> morning to you Dreamglider
[03:53] <Ainvar> hehe 8 days before my birthday
[03:53] <CodenameKT> Carl: now try to save a simple txt file to dir and see if it lets u
[03:53] <Mabus06> At who's risk do we use dapper after April 20th?
[03:53] <cafuego> Mabus06: 'whose'
[03:54] <holycow> *cough*
[03:54] <holycow> :)
[03:54] <Carl> access denied
[03:54] <Carl> I can see it now though
[03:54] <CookieNinja> when's dapper due for official release, anyway ?
[03:54] <Mabus06> APril 20th
[03:54] <Dreamglider> iratsu,  http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[03:54] <holycow> rofl!
[03:54] <holycow> :)
[03:54] <cafuego> holycow: They won't learn if you don't teach them.
[03:55] <iratsu> Dreamglider: yea i checked there already
[03:55] <fangorious> what's dapper ? ....
[03:55] <holycow> cafuego, i don't disagree :)
[03:55] <CookieNinja> the next version of ubuntu, fangorious
[03:55] <cafuego> !dict dapper
[03:55] <ubotu> Dictionary 'dapper' marked by smartness in dress and manners; "a dapper young man"; "a jaunty red hat"
[03:55] <George__> back
[03:55] <Carl> I can't save
[03:55] <CodenameKT> Carl: open terminal and do ls -l in / and tell me if the directory /osfileshare whatever is root:root or user:root or what
[03:55] <George__> hey  SIPIOR
[03:55] <fangorious> CookieNinja: I was joking ;) after repeat questions about the release date
[03:55] <George__> YEAH THATS RIGHT
[03:55] <CookieNinja> o
[03:56] <George__> I got some annoying kids over,
[03:56] <sipior> George__: is there a problem?
[03:56] <cafuego> George__: Tell them to not use caps.
[03:56] <Carl> I don't see anything that says osfileshare
[03:56] <George__> yeah
[03:57] <George__> there's a problem
[03:57] <Carl> just some recently used files
[03:57] <George__> I got a f'ing annoying notebook refusing to connect, a bunch of kids buggging me, and my dog barking
[03:57] <CookieNinja> bleh
[03:57] <George__> plus my other f'ing notebook (IBM Z60m) works fine
[03:57] <Nogimics> Anyone use bittornado on ubuntu?
[03:58] <CookieNinja> no Nogimics, i stick with the built in client
[03:58] <Nogimics> Can the built in client be used from the command line?
[03:58] <George__> what WHAT 2 DO 2 Get THIS NETWORK going!
[03:58] <George__> EVEN SHOVING INTO THE notebook wont work, I think DHCP isn't enabled in the computer
[03:58] <nickrud> George__, not to jump in or anything, but your z60m works just 'out of the box'? (looking for some decent coattails)
[03:58] <holycow> Nogimics, used to until breezy came with gtk torrent or whatnot
[03:58] <fangorious> well that's just mean
[03:58] <George__> LOL yeah!
[03:58] <George__> GENTOO THOUGH
[03:58] <CookieNinja> tried a static ip, George__ ?
[03:59] <sipior> George__: do you generally find that acting like a needy twat encourages people to help you much?
[03:59] <Carl> o, i typed it in wrong, it is root
[03:59] <George__> Na
[03:59] <sipior> George__: good luck with yiyr problem
[03:59] <George__> Yeah Thanks
[03:59] <George__> Pain in the *@#8213
[03:59] <George__> u KNOW what i dont understand?
[03:59] <George__> even my eth1 which is the lan connection doesn't even give me a dhcp thing, so how do I enable DHCP in terminal?
[04:00] <sipior> this will take a while
[04:00] <ClayG> are usb device auytomatically mounted ?
[04:00] <George__> lol sipior a while? more like 3 Hours +
[04:00] <Ainvar> holy smokes
[04:00] <George__> u gonna help
[04:00] <George__> cuz  I am angry
[04:00] <CookieNinja> they *should* be, ClayG. what usb device you goy ?
[04:00] <CookieNinja> got
[04:00] <ClayG> cable modem
[04:00] <CookieNinja> o
[04:00] <Ainvar> I feel cheated
[04:00] <George__> dont need someone bit'in me
[04:00] <George__> I FEEL CHEATED 2
[04:01] <fangorious> ClayG: just curious, do you not have an ethernet card?
[04:01] <CookieNinja> pass on that, ClayG. can't you get one with an ethernet port ?
[04:01] <inc|freaky> hi all, im trying to boot from the kubuntu live CD, but it hangs when trying to start the hotplug subsystem - how can i fix that?
[04:01] <Ainvar> on my dell i6000 with an ati card compared to the m70 with the nvidia card is on opposite ends of the scale
[04:01] <nickrud> George__, angry at who? I mean, who could have possibly cheated you?
[04:01] <Toma-> George__: get your money back :D
[04:01] <Angel-SL> hi
[04:01] <George__> what!?
[04:01] <George__> THIS NOTEbook is like 3 years old
[04:01] <George__> R40 IBM Thinkpad
[04:01] <Krhis> Hi Angel-SL.
[04:01] <George__> LOL
[04:02] <Toma-> George__: nevermind, its an open-source joke.
[04:02] <George__> I FOUND OUT
[04:02] <George__> WHY THE FU@
[04:02] <George__> OMGOSH
[04:02] <George__> STUPID GUI
[04:02] <George__> DHCP WAS NOT INSTALLED
[04:02] <Angel-SL> how do i add a shortcut in the terminal. eg. how do i add gcc as a shortcut to gcc-3.4
[04:02] <CookieNinja> giggles @ George__
[04:02] <Toma-> George__: lose the caps, and keep it all in 1 line or you'll get kicked/banned
[04:02] <Krhis> You're leaning on the shift key...
[04:02] <CookieNinja> be thankful the solution is probably simple, George__
[04:03] <Angel-SL> Krhis: hello?
[04:03] <George__> lol Toma>! I figured out
[04:03] <geoffrian> Hello my fellow Ubuntu buddies.
[04:03] <bshumate> Angel-SL: use an alias in ~/.bashrc like alias gcc=gcc-3.4
[04:03] <Krhis> Yes, Angel-SL?
[04:03] <George__> BE HAPPY BUDDY!
[04:03] <Angel-SL> Krhis: bshumate got my answer.
[04:03] <Krhis> Yea, I know. ^^
[04:04] <CookieNinja> Toma-, you remember me asking about my flash problem ? any ideas ?
[04:04] <CookieNinja> i was called monstercookie earlier, Toma-
[04:04] <lostblur> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=28635  wow.. *I* am a newbie to linux and i was able to overcome the problems he decsribed in less than an hour of reading ubuntu forum and asking here... so sad that someone in a position to write a well exposed article can completely and unjustly bash such an amazing product
[04:04] <Toma-> CookieNinja: yeh, theres a module that sort of links oss apps (firefox) to alsa. thats what you need :/
[04:04] <jaro> This is more network related problem but I suppose someone could help me with it. I've computer with public ip and another behind the nat running ftp server. I forwarded ftp ports to my ftp server and I can connect it but data connection fails to initiate. I suppose this is because ftp tries to initate connection from within the private network - unsuccesfully though. I'd like to know if there is any way how I can enable the opposite direction of forward (like:
[04:04] <jaro>  send all packets originating from... from what? ... via eth0)
[04:05] <Toma-> CookieNinja: but i cant remember the name! :(
[04:05] <lostblur> that guy with all his claimed background could get it down. kinda pathetic
[04:05] <CookieNinja> aoss Toma- ? because i tried that
[04:05] <Toma-> nah, its a module, not an app
[04:06] <CookieNinja> a kernel module or an alsa module, Toma- ?
[04:06] <Toma-> kernel
[04:06] <Toma-> gimme asec ill do a find
[04:06] <nickrud> lostblur, I haven't read that article, but I can almost certainly tell you his point: it didn't work when he turned it on. A problem with free software, currently
[04:06] <Toma-> CookieNinja: try to load 'snd-pcm-oss'
[04:07] <Toma-> with modprobe
[04:07] <nickrud> s/with/for/
[04:07] <Toma-> its probably not it, but it might be :/
[04:07] <CookieNinja> trying now, Toma-
[04:07] <mikem> Hey
[04:08] <Angel-SL> this is great.
[04:08] <Angel-SL> UnrealIRCD doesnt detect gcc.3.4
[04:08] <puff> How do I disable my screensaver?
[04:08] <Toma-> i bet it doesnt work :/
[04:08] <Angel-SL> How do i revert to gcc3
[04:08] <mikem> I was knowing if you knew if it was posible to get a NetGear Wireless addapter to work
[04:08] <mikem> with ubuntu
[04:08] <Madpilot> puff: probably somewhere in System menu --> Prefs --> Screensaver
[04:08] <Toma-> Angel-SL: compiling from source?
[04:08] <Jared> Does anyone know what repository that the spca5xx webcam driver is on. i just did a fresh install and i can't find it
[04:08] <mikem> wondering
[04:08] <mikem> rather
[04:09] <Angel-SL> Toma-: yes
[04:09] <chet--> hello all, i had wpa2 working with ipw220 on 2.6.12-9, now i upgraded to 2.6.12-10 and eth1 is completely gone.  any ideas?
[04:09] <Angel-SL> Toma-: it wont work with gcc4
[04:09] <Toma-> Angel-SL: 'export CC=gcc-3.4', before configure
[04:09] <nickrud> puff, probably system->pref->screensaver
[04:09] <Madpilot> nickrud: look about a dozen lines up :P
[04:09] <Toma-> Jared: its best to use the source from the website. spca5xx locks up my system hard.
[04:09] <CookieNinja> doesn't work, Toma- :-(
[04:10] <nickrud> I kicked myself 6 lines back ;)
[04:10] <Toma-> CookieNinja: damnit. have you got dmix working?
[04:10] <George__> o my it isn't working
[04:10] <CookieNinja> i forgot to check if it was already loaded, too, Toma-
[04:10] <Jared> it dosen't in mine it worked fine with min plus i'm not good at compiling and stuff like that so do you know which it is.
[04:10] <Toma-> i know u have HW mixing, but oss isnt a friend of mixing
[04:10] <lostblur> nick: nah hes a pc geek like the rest of us, or atleast claism to be with he mention of past experience with other linux and sun OS's. one of his complains is that he couldnt download some componenets from synaptics. without bothering to look into multiverse/universe issue.
[04:10] <CookieNinja> dunno Toma- as >1 play together already thanks to hardware mixing on my audigy2
[04:10] <George__> what should I DO?
[04:10] <Angel-SL> Toma-: great!
[04:10] <bshumate> Angel-SL: you need to set the CC environment variable, using this command : export CC=gcc-3.4
[04:11] <Jared> because i am a webcam freak and i got a real nice creative instant cam and i can't use it without that and before i did a fresh install i had it
[04:11] <mikem> I will reitterate since noone appears to have seen the last time, Is it posible to get a NetGear wireless addapter to work with ubuntu
[04:11] <CookieNinja> >1 apps play together, i meant, Toma- ... it's only flash giving me grief
[04:11] <Toma-> CookieNinja: not 2 oss apps i bet
[04:11] <George__> My wireless inst working
[04:11] <lostblur> his rant is equivalent of installing windows on a box that winxp doenst have all the drievs on the CD for, and then trying to do a windows update without installing a MS validation utility..
[04:11] <Jared> Toma- could you tell me which repository it is in??
[04:11] <George__> LoL
[04:11] <Jared> cause i cna't find it at all
[04:11] <George__> I know how 2 bypass
[04:11] <Toma-> Jared: ...
[04:11] <Toma-> !info spca5xx
[04:11] <Toma-> damn bot
[04:11] <mikem> Does anyone even see what I am typing
[04:11] <holycow> mikem, depends on the netgear adapter ... what model is it? what chipset is it using? google it and you will soon see if its supported under linux
[04:11] <George__> Download lovely firefox
[04:11] <Jared> and i can't find the lime wire package
[04:11] <CookieNinja> i dunno two oss apps to try together, Toma- .... atm i am trying audacity & flash .. or flash and soundrecorder
[04:11] <Toma-> Jared: the drivers come with the kernel
[04:12] <Jared> do you know what it is under?
[04:12] <George__> Could anybody give me a good wireless utility?
[04:12] <mikem> WG111
[04:12] <holycow> mikem,  additionally, if its supported, but ubuntu doesnt have the driver already, one should be able to google instructions on how to build support for it
[04:12] <Toma-> audacity will be using alsa, flash will be using oss :|
[04:12] <Jared> you mean it is already installed Toma-?
[04:12] <CookieNinja> do i still need dmix for playing two oss apps, then, Toma- ?
[04:12] <holycow> mikem, what? you expect me to look it up for you?
[04:12] <holycow> mikem, hahahaha!
[04:12] <Toma-> Jared: yep
[04:12] <holycow> :) really thats rich
[04:12] <Toma-> CookieNinja: oss, i am unsure of.
[04:12] <puff> Madpilot, nickrud:  I checked there first, I don't see anything labeled "Disable screensaver" or the like.  I see "blank after nn minutes" and "cycle after nn minutes" (cycle to a different screen saver image).
[04:12] <George__> WHat software can i use other than iwconfig?
[04:12] <Toma-> id say you need to use aoss, but thats a long shot.
[04:12] <Jared> what is it under in my system cause i need to make it work right ......hm
[04:12] <gwark> hiyas :)   is it possible to use wget to grab a series of webpages ?
[04:12] <mikem> Well, I tried looking for drivers for it, but the only ones I could find were front ends to the windows drivers
[04:12] <George__> aoss?
[04:13] <Toma-> Jared: 'sudo modprobe spca5xx' should load it up fine
[04:13] <holycow> George__, if you are having a hard time connecting to a wireless network, try wifi-radar ... its a gui for your your wireless card
[04:13] <nickrud> puff, under mode, choose disable
[04:13] <puff> Madpilot, nickrud:  ah-hah, found it.  it's one of the display mode dropdown options.
[04:13] <George__> ok thank u
[04:13] <Toma-> George__: no
[04:13] <CookieNinja> i know a game that, last i knew, used oss so i could try flash and that game, which is a penguin themed lemmings clone
[04:13] <puff> nickrud: Thanks.
[04:13] <mikem> one guy actually wrote a utility that was supposed to be able to allow you to run the windows drivers on ubuntu, but that didn't seem like somehting that should work
[04:13] <George__> what?
[04:13] <Toma-> CookieNinja: Pingus :D
[04:13] <Jared> okay thankyou well the one i downloaded was in french is this one?
[04:13] <CookieNinja> that the one, Toma-
[04:13] <George__> well cant dl it
[04:14] <Madpilot> puff: yeah, just found it myself poking around in there :P
[04:14] <George__> not online
[04:14] <Toma-> Jared: the driver is french? ?;/
[04:14] <holycow> mikem, if all you have is windows support then its easier to buy a linux supported card than get a windows one working.  yes there is an ndis wrapper utility you can try that i guess
[04:14] <George__> hmm
[04:14] <CookieNinja> the author was the dude who taught me about oss emulation under alsa and how to enable it to get sound ...quite a while ago
[04:14] <George__> I cant even connect using the onboard LAN
[04:14] <George__> any ideas?
[04:14] <holycow> mikem, i've never used it i find it easier to buy supported cards, but search synaptic for ndiswrappter
[04:14] <Jared> the one i downloaded
[04:14] <holycow> ndiswrapper even
[04:14] <Jared> heh
[04:14] <George__> ok
[04:14] <Jared> sorta annoying
[04:15] <mikem> Then thats probably what I am going to do,
[04:15] <holycow> George__, onboard lan? wtf? is your card supported?
[04:15] <Toma-> ndisgtk is an awesome tool for ndiswrapper u should all look at! :O
[04:15] <mikem> Well, I guess I finally found a use for that 150 dollars worth of christmas money
[04:15] <George__> What ? IT's a IBM R40
[04:15] <George__> Lan, Modem, Wireless all detected
[04:15] <Toma-> click click click install of ndiswrapper + drivers. <3
[04:15] <George__> Doesn't seem 2 want (wireless, lan, etc) to connect to anything
[04:15] <holycow> George__, reinstall?
[04:15] <chet--> is dapper flight2 the latest? i read ipw2200 and wpa work well in dapper?
[04:16] <George__> I did
[04:16] <holycow> George__, wow
[04:16] <Toma-> chet--: flight 2 is the latest
[04:16] <George__> I installed Mandriva, Gentoo, Ubuntu X 2
[04:16] <holycow> George__, you can't ping out?
[04:16] <mikem> George, I am connecting over a network
[04:16] <Toma-> still alpha tho
[04:16] <Toma-> iirc
[04:16] <mikem> right now
[04:16] <George__> HELP MEE pleae
[04:16] <chet--> thanks Toma-, i think i will try it, its just for fun anyhow
[04:16] <George__> I didn't set up dhcp in the setup,
[04:16] <George__> that is the problem?
[04:16] <nickrud> flight 3 is on the wiki, but as of last night, no go from the links
[04:16] <Jared> sudo: moprobe: command not found
[04:16] <Toma-> chet--: if you find any bugs, PLEEEEEEEASE file a bug report!!! :D
[04:16] <Jared> that is the error i got Tome-
[04:17] <chet--> Toma-, you got it
[04:17] <Angel-SL> Jared: modprobe
[04:17] <Toma-> Jared: "modprobe"
[04:17] <Jared> THANKYOU
[04:17] <Toma-> chet--: thx :D~
[04:17] <chet--> should i wait a few days for flight3, ort just do flight2?
[04:17] <Angel-SL> Toma-: beat you
[04:17] <mikem> Well, all I had to do is plug in the machine, then go to system->administration->networking, select the appropiate connection and hit activate
[04:17] <Toma-> that you did.
[04:17] <George__> hmm did u setup dhcp during install?
[04:17] <Jared> what will it do after i type that command?
[04:18] <Toma-> George__: yes
[04:18] <Angel-SL> Jared: what are you trying to do
[04:18] <Toma-> dhcp is setup when you setup the system
[04:18] <holycow> George__, well you need an ip
[04:18] <gwark> i'm attempting to download a page and it's video files ... someone told me its possible to do it with wget .... will someone give me a hand please? much appreciated :)
[04:18] <Toma-> Angel-SL: he's modprobe'ing his spca5xx driver for webcam
[04:18] <George__> I got no ip!
[04:18] <Jared> get my creative instant webcam to work
[04:18] <holycow> either via dhcp or static ... do you have an ip ? are you on the same subment on your network?
[04:18] <George__> yes
[04:18] <jino> hi every one
[04:18] <Jared> then i wil download camorama and start my webcam streaming
[04:18] <George__> Heck I dk
[04:18] <George__> Where 2 find OUT?
[04:18] <jino> i have a problem
[04:18] <George__> I looking at ifconfig, iwconfig, and the gui
[04:19] <Angel-SL> Jared: load it? just modprobe -a modname
[04:19] <George__> IDK help!
[04:19] <Jared> heh......this is chineese to me what do you mean by modname
[04:19] <holycow> George__, when you do ifconfig yourethhere ... what ip address do you get?
[04:19] <holycow> if you get none, you don't have an ip
[04:19] <George__> i dont get a ip
[04:19] <Angel-SL> Jared: module name
[04:19] <jino> when i login to my laptop it doesnt connect to the wifi  , once reactivate it , it does.
[04:19] <George__> i dont even have a IP thing
[04:19] <holycow> George__, what don'tyou try setting up a static ip?
[04:19] <Jared> what, the name of the cam
[04:19] <George__> It's nt static
[04:19] <George__> i made it DHCP
[04:20] <Toma-> Jared: run "sudo modprobe spca5xx"
[04:20] <Jared> is there any other program i have to have for camorama to run.........okay
[04:20] <holycow> so what, make it static to make sure, perhaps yoru dhcp server doesn'twork ... get a ping out first
[04:20] <Jared> already did and it did nothing
[04:20] <Toma-> should be no output from it
[04:20] <George__> static?
[04:20] <holycow> once you can ping then you can resolve everything else
[04:20] <George__> I got firewall
[04:20] <George__> I dk what the ips are 2 be?
[04:20] <Angel-SL> Jared: whats the module name
[04:20] <Toma-> Jared: that means its loaded
[04:20] <Nogimics> Does anyone know with the default installation of ubuntu what the iptable setup is like? for example im having a hard time using a command client for bittornado
[04:20] <holycow> George__, system/admin/networking ... setup static ip first
[04:20] <George__> how
[04:20] <holycow> George__, bring down your firewall (firestarter right?)
[04:21] <holycow> George__, i told you damnit! :)
[04:21] <George__> no no hardware
[04:21] <George__> ipcop
[04:21] <ilba7r> George__, or have ease of mind and install networkmanager
[04:21] <ilba7r> networkmanager!
[04:21] <Toma-> Jared: run "v4l-conf" and some info should popup on what your webcam is
[04:21] <Toma-> unless its v4l2...
[04:21] <Angel-SL> George__: what are you trying to do
[04:21] <George__> get SOME internet in this freaken laptop
[04:21] <George__> I trying with cable now
[04:21] <George__> even cable give me crack
[04:21] <ilba7r> !networkmanager
[04:21] <ubotu> from memory, networkmanager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto
[04:22] <George__> i Cant!
[04:22] <ilba7r> clear
[04:22] <George__> apt-get install networkmanager?
[04:22] <mikem> George first go to system/admin/networking, under connections, select the appropiate connection type, click properties to make sure everything is correct, then close properties, and click activate
[04:22] <Boelcke> Ah, you folks are talking networking.  Help!  My ubuntu installation used to see my shared windows folders (another machine on my network) under places, network servers.  Now it's gone.
[04:22] <Angel-SL> has anyone here ever Heard Of NDISWRAPPER?
[04:22] <George__> Yeah Did that Mikem
[04:22] <Boelcke> I can ping the IP, and get a response.
[04:22] <mikem> What happened
[04:22] <George__> it says activated
[04:22] <George__> but cant ping nothing ifconfig gives me no ip, subnet etc
[04:22] <Toma-> Angel-SL: is that like, some fort of country or something? ;)
[04:22] <ilba7r> george disable fire wall
[04:22] <Toma-> *fort=sort
[04:22] <bshumate> !tell Angel-SL about ndiswrapper
[04:22] <Jared> Toma- camorama froze up when i tried to use it
[04:22] <mikem> if you don't have an IP you shouldn't be able to connect at all
[04:23] <Jared> my whole computer did
[04:23] <Angel-SL> bshumate: i know about it.
[04:23] <George__> I cant
[04:23] <holycow> George__, does your router only accept access from certain mac addresses maybe?
[04:23] <cafuego> !info scribus dapper
[04:23] <ubotu> scribus: (Open Source Desktop Publishing), section graphics, is optional. Version: 1.2.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 4836 kB, Installed size: 14748 kB
[04:23] <George__> no,
[04:23] <Angel-SL> bshumate:thank you.
[04:23] <Toma-> Jared: thats because the spca5xx drivers in ubuntu are BROKEN!
[04:23] <ilba7r> George__, check /etc/network/interfaces. make sure you have of the wireless and ethernet with auto
[04:23] <George__> It's a Linksys Wireless W SOmething or another
[04:23] <George__> If I kill firewall, I kill my VPN, VOIP, FTP, and HTTP servers
[04:23] <George__> EEKK
[04:23] <Angel-SL> bshumate: you got my pm blocker to block ubotu.
[04:23] <amicrawler> what is the ubuntu src website or repostitory
[04:23] <mikem> Listen, I am a newbe at linux, but I am prety well versed in this
[04:23] <holycow> well then, i think thats your problem right there
[04:23] <ilba7r> George__, sometimes both eth and wirless are activated in this case network will not work
[04:24] <Jared> no.....before camorama always froze my computer anyway........so........ugh i found the package the other day before i did this and now i can't fin the dadgum thing it was in french
[04:24] <George__> eth1 is killed
[04:24] <ilba7r> George__, at least make sure the firewall is set to use the right network device
[04:24] <George__> it all is
[04:24] <amicrawler> hello
[04:24] <Jared> is there anything other that camorama needs to run?
[04:24] <amicrawler> need help plez
[04:24] <mikem> George, what firewall are you using anyway
[04:24] <George__> IPCOP
[04:24] <Toma-> Jared: follow this howto, and it'll work perfect. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75284
[04:24] <mikem> Ok fine
[04:24] <Jared> okay thankkyou
[04:24] <George__> and port sinner
[04:24] <Toma-> Jared: however, use the updated drivers from the website
[04:25] <amicrawler> what is the apt-get command ?
[04:25] <mikem> YOU ARE USING 2 FIREWALLS
[04:25] <mikem> ?!
[04:25] <George__> yes.. and no
[04:25] <mikem> ok?
[04:25] <George__> not 2 firewalls
[04:25] <Jared> is there a way to tell if a certain cam is supported by that driver.
[04:25] <amicrawler> mikem i use 3 firewalls
[04:25] <George__> just other 1 makes sure ports are closed down for good
[04:25] <Toma-> Jared: yep. (also, looks like the howto has the updated driver on it anyway)
[04:26] <George__> This has 2 be installation fault
[04:26] <Angel-SL> amicrawler: apt-get = apt.
[04:26] <Nogimics> Does anyone know with the default installation of ubuntu what the iptable setup is like? for example im having a hard time using a command client for bittornado keep getting tracker connecting error
[04:26] <holycow> George__, i don't think so, i think yoru firewalls are misconfigured
[04:26] <George__> I do not get at all any ip, subnet mask nothing in ipcop
[04:26] <Angel-SL> !tell amicrawler about apt
[04:26] <Jared> heh thats nice
[04:26] <George__> no way
[04:26] <amicrawler> so doi do a apt-get then the pkg i want
[04:26] <mikem> I just had a case of de ja vu
[04:26] <Toma-> Jared: http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html
[04:26] <nickrud> Nogimics, the default iptables is allow anything
[04:26] <Jared> oh i have already been there.okay it is supported
[04:26] <Angel-SL> amicrawler: apt-get install package.
[04:26] <George__> IBM z60m has Gentoo and Ifconfig gives me even when wireless anit working ip and submask
[04:26] <Nogimics> Nickrud thanks for your reply
[04:27] <Jared> yeah Toma- camorama has always froze up my computer
[04:27] <George__> This is giving me no ip subnet
[04:27] <Nogimics> Wonder why my torrent is not connecting then :(
[04:27] <nickrud> Nogimics, sudo iptables -L shows what's current
[04:27] <George__> nada
[04:27] <George__> D
[04:27] <George__> opps
[04:27] <George__> hmmmmmmmmmmmmm what should i try?????
[04:27] <Toma-> Jared: i had the same problem. updating the driver makes it all great. also, the newer driver makes MSN webcam chat on amsn run awesome :D
[04:27] <George__> reinstall?
[04:27] <holycow> George__, another distro?
[04:28] <George__> hellz no
[04:28] <Toma-> George__: try not being a pin in here
[04:28] <Toma-> *pain
[04:28] <George__> Pain?
[04:28] <Toma-> i think about 3 people have told you how to fix it so far right?
[04:28] <George__> I can see the laptop wireless leds going off but no internet
[04:28] <George__> I TRIED
[04:28] <mikem> Hey george, if you are looking for distributions, the next best thing to ubuntu in my oppinion is called MEPIS
[04:28] <ilba7r> Toma-, does amsn support audio chat. I could not manage to find how to work it so was wondering if it has the support or nto
[04:28] <Strat> Hello all - any sound card experts out here tonight?
[04:29] <Toma-> ilba7r: dont think so...
[04:29] <George__> what the hellz is wrong with this! I See the Laptop saying WIRELSS CONEECCTED
[04:29] <Jared> okay that is kewl well i can't wait to get it running, i get on this website it is kewl cause i can turn off some ppls lights they have a script setup with the x module applaince thing and i am planning to save up and do that so i want to get my webcam working before long so thanks muches..............heh
[04:29] <CookieNinja> any other ideas, Toma- ? I'm just browsing for some more atm but still stuck :s
[04:29] <ilba7r> Toma-,  i suspected that thanx
[04:29] <George__> WELL everybody THANKS
[04:29] <mikem> George, if you don't have a connection, how is it you can talk to us anyway
[04:29] <Toma-> George__: you know what all your settinsg should be?
[04:29] <George__> LOL
[04:29] <George__> i said
[04:29] <George__> I have a IBM Z60m and A IBM R40
[04:30] <George__> IBM Z60m I'm Using
[04:30] <George__> I also have a desktop
[04:30] <George__> Duh...
[04:30] <Jared> i think i will hang around in here for a while in case i need some more help on anything, its very helpful see Toma- i am eleven years old and i am still getting used to linux and ubuntu has been a great one to start with and i think i will stick with it
[04:30] <Toma-> !sentences
[04:30] <mikem> O I see, two computers, man I am really not on the ball tonight
[04:30] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Toma-
[04:30] <George__> Mikem I got more than 3
[04:30] <Agamotto> An eleven year-old that can speak with alacrity... most imrpessive
[04:30] <bshumate> !enter
[04:30] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[04:30] <Toma-> Jared: hehe cool. i gotta go out soon, so ill only be here another few minutes
[04:30] <mikem> We got like 6 or 7 computers in our house
[04:31] <Strat> If no experts in sound cards - can anyone explain the basics to me?
[04:31] <Toma-> George__: that lecture ubotu posted is for you.
[04:31] <Jared> i am a fast typer too i am proud of making myself learn how to type
[04:31] <George__> I got IPCOP, Port snipper, asteriks, samba, dad, sis, mom, me pcs, notebook x 2
[04:31] <kameron> is there a command to tell what repo a package is located within?
[04:31] <George__> my ibm r40 hates me selling this damn thing
[04:31] <Eleaf> lol
[04:31] <Jared> when should the final version of dapper be released?
[04:31] <Eleaf> Jared, you should make them be tomorrow
[04:31] <Madpilot> Jared: April 2006 some time
[04:31] <Eleaf> lol
[04:31] <George__> really should, couldn't get gentoo to work cuz it dont detect a Radeon M6
[04:32] <mikem> Sounds like my desktop, the ATI Video drivers are always crashing at random, drives me crazy
[04:32] <Agamotto> jared:  It will serve you very well in your future, even more if you use an ergonomic keyboard... piano strength training without the carpal tunnel :)
[04:32] <George__> ati sucks
[04:32] <mikem> YOu said it
[04:32] <mikem> But my dad insists I use it
[04:32] <George__> but that's like a lie, cuz i did buy a X600 notebook
[04:32] <Jared> i play pianol, by ear mostly
[04:32] <Agamotto> Ahhh, that would explain your typing as well
[04:32] <mikem> I play piano to
[04:32] <mikem> I am also a songwriter
[04:32] <George__> Reinstall notebook? I play drums!
[04:33] <Jared> i am fast too and i can talk and look away from the keyboard while doing that stuff and i got a nice i maching wireless key board and mouse so i like that.
[04:33] <bradley_> help! my network was working fine all of a sudden i'm not getting out on the net... i'm behind a router and all other comps work fine...
[04:33] <nickrud> ahuman01, a reasonable response, George__
[04:33] <req> Just a question from a newbie.. I installed ubuntu for the first time a while ago but it was an old version.Trying to update I managed to brake it. Can I just pop the new version cd in and install over this one so that my files stay intact? That seems to be the easiest way
[04:33] <mikem> Did you try rebooting
[04:33] <Strat> Anyone know how to troubleshoot a sound card on Breezy Ubuntu?
[04:33] <nickrud> ahuman01, sorry one more time
[04:33] <George__> lol countless imes
[04:34] <holycow> Jared, how did you get to installing ubuntu? you found it on the net and decided to what? you removed windows from your box?
[04:34] <mikem> Anyone here into programming
[04:34] <Agamotto> req:  It can't truly hurt anything
[04:34] <mikem> ?
[04:34] <Jared> mikem i play trombone in the band i wont top mucisian out of the whole 6th grade band
[04:34] <George__> Ok, I gonna reinstall
[04:34] <Jared> large band
[04:34] <Agamotto> A clean install might be a better option.  With the previous install, did you make a /home partition?
[04:34] <mikem> I played marimba in the marching band
[04:35] <Toma-> Jared: im a music teacher :)
[04:35] <Madpilot> req: did you set up a seperate partition for your home directory? If so, reinstalling won't hurt your own files
[04:35] <Strat> Looks like its back to Windoze.  Third try at Linux - still can't get all periphs to work.  Damn frustrating...
[04:35] <bradley_> anyone have any idea how to troubleshoot a networking problem? ;)
[04:35] <Mabus06> CAPS ARE KIND OF ANNOYING GEORGE
[04:35] <req> I don't think I did :& but it's not that serious
[04:35] <Toma-> Strat: linux isnt for defeatists :(
[04:35] <mikem> I don't know what strat is talking about, Linux is way better than windows
[04:35] <Madpilot> Mabus06: too late, he's gone :P
[04:35] <Agamotto> Mabus06:  Chalk it up to enthusiasm
[04:35] <holycow> Mabus06, so was he
[04:35] <holycow> heh
[04:36] <req> I'll try to keep an eye on making /home into it's own partition next time I install
[04:36] <Mabus06> lol
[04:36] <Strat> If Linux is better, how the hell does one get the sound card to work?
[04:36] <Strat> It is driving me CRAZY!
[04:36] <holycow> req, heh you know having home on another partition saved me a few times now
[04:36] <Toma->  /home on its own partion is the greatest thing evar
[04:36] <mikem> The only trouble I had with linux was picking a distribution
[04:36] <Strat> Just works under windoze
[04:36] <Jared> holycow, I had heard good things about linux, almost went with fc3 (fedora core 3 then had a computer mishap on my moms and i had a copy of damn small linux i sorta downloaded a bad versioni of ubuntu and though it was a live cd , then i wasn't that educated in linux as i am now, so i used dsl for a while and hated it but knew other linux would be better so i set out to find more linux that was better than fc3 and i did it was called ubuntu , heh
[04:36] <ilba7r> Strat, did you try the web forums?
[04:36] <ilba7r> !sound
[04:36] <ubotu> somebody said sound was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[04:36] <Agamotto> Strat:  Please be more specific - what sound card with which distro?
[04:36] <ilba7r> !help
[04:36] <Strat> yup, they sent me here
[04:37] <holycow> Strat, generally one makes sure the hardware is supported under linux before instaling, otherwise it gets wacky ... what kind of sound card do you have?
[04:37] <Jared> in linux i like to use the newest, yet most stable distro
[04:37] <leonardo> !sound
[04:37] <req> Strat: I had a problem with digital/analog output being fcked somehow. I have audigy 2 and all I did was upadate alsamixer and try everything. There was a forum post that I found googling for something like "ubuntu audigy 2" or something
[04:37] <Strat> I am using breezy.  Have an old dell with a Cirrus Logic CS4610/11
[04:37] <jino> Somebody please help !
[04:37] <Agamotto> Hmmmm, standard sound chip
[04:37] <Strat> Accordning to ALSA, it is supported
[04:37] <Jared> that is why i was asking about dapper cause i will upgrade to it the day that it comes out "Stabily" and that will be good i love linux
[04:37] <holycow> Jared, very cool dude, welcome, have fun.  looks like you have already tried a number of distros, thats good
[04:37] <mikem> Thats what we are here for
[04:37] <Toma-> Strat: what does "lspci | grep audio" return?
[04:38] <jino> My laptop doesnt connect to wifi initally..
[04:38] <Agamotto> Strat:  No audio at all?
[04:38] <leonardo> same here
[04:38] <jino> later it does when re activated
[04:38] <leonardo> sorry hi all
[04:38] <Agamotto> jino:  That is no so unusual.... tell us more
[04:38] <Strat> lspci returns: 0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Cirrus Logic CS 4610/11 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio Accelerator]  (rev 01)
[04:38] <ubulogger> hey i am in the middle of a ubuntu installation and there is an error with grub
[04:38] <jino> Agamotto : i updated to new 5.10 version
[04:39] <mikem> If theres an error with grub, generally you should reinstall it
[04:39] <Jared> if i can get my cam to work and find a good program to stream audio i will have completely dump windows
[04:39] <mikem> grub is the boot strapper that launches the OS
[04:39] <holycow> bbl
[04:39] <jino> initially everything worked well ..Now i my pc when started connects to the wifi
[04:39] <ubulogger> mikem, i tried to reinstall it again
[04:39] <mikem> and?
[04:39] <jino> but doesnt bring me the we pages
[04:39] <Strat> The sound icon shows audio muted - if I try to turn in on I get an error that it can't find the device
[04:39] <ubulogger> (the whole ubuntu, not just grub
[04:39] <mikem> that has nothing to do with your grub problem
[04:39] <Goldfisch> Jared: Have you tried icecasting? https://scifi.homelinux.net/mediawiki/index.php/Icecast
[04:40] <mikem> you just need to reestablish your connection
[04:40] <Jared> see i don't get allowance i have a poor family and see i get really good stuff for christmas so i as for ONE expensive thing and that is what i get and i get two really expensive gifts cause my parents are divorced so  like i was saying i don't get an allowance so i like the free stuff, i am going to try ice cast
[04:40] <jino> Agamotto : the browser says connecting...and nothing works untill i reactivate my wifi card
[04:40] <Strat> Error I get is: No volume control elements and / or devices found
[04:40] <mikem> Then reactivate your wifi card
[04:41] <Matthew_W> Hello, I have a little problem... I need to know what the OPTION to put in the etc/X11/xorg.conf file under DEVICE is to make it force DVI, because... xorg kills my monitor.
[04:41] <Toma-> Strat: open up a terminal, and run alsamixer. what does that show? a mixer?
[04:41] <ubulogger> mike do you know how to fix it?  i was thinking that i could just make a grub 3.5 boot disk but i am in the middle of the ubuntu installation
[04:41] <ubulogger> mikem,
[04:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phreak97: I got your message - awesome!
[04:41] <Strat> ok, this is where it starts to drive me crazy - alsamixer isn't there
[04:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> (a bit late o_O)
[04:41] <Toma-> oh?
[04:41] <Jared> see no one in my family know how to use linux so my cousins can't get on my comptuer and get me viruses, plus there are a lot less viruses for linux and no spywear, i like that and i don't have to let my cousins on my computer so heh, plus i am a ham radio operator, is anyone in here farmiliar with ham radio?
[04:41] <Toma-> my.
[04:42] <Goldfisch> Jared: I'm a ham
[04:42] <ubulogger> mikem, any ideas
[04:42] <Agamotto> jared:  For various bits of kit, check out your local Goodwill and Salvation Army stores... you might be amazed at what you can find.  There is also a group called Freecycle that has local groups across the country that trade things for free
[04:42] <Strat> brand new install - only thing I have done is install the WMV support drivers
[04:42] <req> it's updating time :) thanks for your help
[04:42] <mikem> If you are in the middle of the installation, I would really recomend just turning the machine off, and starting from scratch
[04:42] <Strat> the error I get when I run alsamixer: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[04:42] <Toma-> Strat: ok, run "sudo apt-get install alsa-utils"
[04:42] <Toma-> ahh ok
[04:42] <Jared> goldfisch what class
[04:43] <ubulogger> mikem, i allready did that, is there a way to fix it so i can boot up windows
[04:43] <Agamotto> That could be most of the problem
[04:43] <Jared> i am a tech and i tried to get my general today but missed it by three and i am going to take it the first sunday of next month
[04:43] <Toma-> Strat: i gtg, band rehersal :/ good luck with it.
[04:43] <mikem> Ooh
[04:43] <mikem> Well, can you get into windows
[04:43] <mikem> ?
[04:43] <Strat> says its already there: alsa-utils is already the newest version.
[04:43] <Strat> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:43] <Agamotto> hrm
[04:43] <Goldfisch> Strat: Do you have alsa-utils installed? dpkg -l | grep alsa
[04:43] <ubulogger> there is some kind of error with the hard drive i guess
[04:43] <ubulogger> mikem, no
[04:43] <Strat> Thanks Toma - sorry to have you go
[04:43] <Jared> Goldfisch i pmed you did it show up?
[04:43] <ubulogger> no windows
[04:44] <Goldfisch> Jared: Huh?
[04:44] <ubulogger> i am trying to get htis set up for a buddy of mine
[04:44] <Matthew_W> I need this quickly, I don't mean to rush, but xorg keeps restarting itself and I don't know how to stop it
[04:44] <Jared> goldfisch i sent you a private message
[04:44] <amicrawler> were do i get the depostitorys for xine and xxms and etc  like suse has
[04:44] <mikem> I am going to have to ask you if you were backed up before started the ubuntu instalation
[04:44] <Korupt> Is there _any_ way in GNOME (besides a farking text editor) to modify the color scheme?
[04:44] <Madpilot> amicrawler: Universe & Multiverse repos
[04:45] <DShepherd> hey anyone upgraded to dapper yet?
[04:45] <Madpilot> !tell amicrawler about repos
[04:45] <Goldfisch> Jared: I didn't appear to get it. Are you registered on freenode? YOu can't unless you are.
[04:45] <mikem> You could try going into the BIOS to see if you the loader for windows is still there
[04:45] <nickrud> Matthew_W, X wil stop restarting itself, and offer some error messages.
[04:45] <ilba7r> Korupt, did you try the theme manager
[04:45] <mikem> but I really doubt it will be
[04:45] <ubulogger> mikem, pretty much,
[04:45] <Jared> ah....crap how do you register?
[04:45] <Matthew_W> nickrud; it's restarted 48 times.
[04:45] <Goldfisch> !register
[04:45] <ubotu> well, register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[04:45] <Strat> Goldfisch - says alsa-base, utils, gstreamer0.8-also, libesd-alsa0 and plugins are there
[04:45] <Matthew_W> 49
[04:45] <nickrud> Matthew_W, that's a pretty specific count
[04:45] <Korupt> ilba7r: all it has is the predefined color schemes
[04:45] <Jared> okay yall my new nick will be ki4ikl           that is my call sign
[04:45] <ubulogger> mikem,  where would that be?
[04:46] <kameron> wtf, has anyone played a video in mplayer? how do you get it full screen?
[04:46] <ubulogger> i have never seen a loader in a bios
[04:46] <mikem> Not sure,
[04:46] <Matthew_W> nickrud; it's giving me an error message that tells me that..
[04:46] <Goldfisch> Strat: My system has /usr/bin/alsamixer. You are saying you don't have that?
[04:46] <Madpilot> Korupt: extra themes are really easy to install
[04:46] <ilba7r> korupt you need to install some than. search for gtk2-theme in synaptic
[04:46] <Matthew_W> "The xerver has restarted itself XX times, and ... " and I can't read it, because then it restarts.
[04:46] <ubulogger> kameron, you need to type -zoom 3 owr whatever and then you can resize it all you wnat
[04:46] <nickrud> Matthew_W, hit ctl-alt-backspace. see what happens
[04:46] <ubulogger> mikem, is the windows gone?
[04:46] <Matthew_W> nickrud; anyway, there's some option to add to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and I don't know what it is, it's under device.
[04:46] <Matthew_W> nickrud; that's what I'm doing.
[04:46] <ubulogger> it is windows 98
[04:46] <mikem> Unfortunately I believe so
[04:47] <Goldfisch> Matthew_W: If you can ssh into the box, examine /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:47] <ubulogger> ohhwell
[04:47] <ilba7r> Korupt, and if you stilll do not like what you see google on gnome-themes and install what you like :)
[04:47] <Strat> no - it is there - i read the error message wrong - it says it cant run: ie: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[04:47] <mikem> Id just wipe the drives, create two partitions, one for windows, the other for ubuntu
[04:47] <nickrud> Matthew_W, um, Goldfisch is right about /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and if the ssh part of his post really matters ...
[04:47] <mikem> and go from there
[04:48] <Strat> the error says no file or directory - not that alsamixer isn't there...
[04:48] <mikem> Do you have partitioning software
[04:48] <Eleaf> what will happen if I put an apg 1x card in an 8x slot? = p lol
[04:48] <ki4ikl> did you get it this time Goldfisch i registered
[04:48] <Matthew_W> nickrud; let me look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:48] <DShepherd> hey anyone upgraded to dapper yet?
[04:49] <nickrud> Matthew_W, that, and /etc/X11/xorg.conf, post those on pastebin
[04:49] <alberkman> 1
[04:49] <Agamotto> Eleaf:  It should work, just not at 8X whatever that stands for these days.  I think you just need to check the output voltage... 3v I think?
[04:49] <kameron> ubulogger: "zoom 3 or whatever" isn't helping me shit.
[04:49] <ki4ikl> rock on ubuntu
[04:49] <Eleaf> Agamotto, yes, the card is a 3.5 volt card.  But I don't know if this motherboard does anything other than .8 and can adjust to 1.5 if needed...
[04:50] <mikem> I hope my ubuntu CDs arive soon.
[04:50] <Agamotto> Dshepherd:  Why would you upgrade to a beta version?  What, you like crashing? giggle
[04:50] <Matthew_W> nickrud; I wouldn't be able to get to pastebin, I went through this once before. X_X
[04:50] <Korupt> ilba7r, no such package
[04:50] <Matthew_W> nickrud; it's just some simple option I forget X_X
[04:50] <Agamotto> Eleaf:  Hmmmm, I would find your mobo specs online and double check
[04:50] <ilba7r> korupt ok wait
[04:50] <Varanger> hi!
[04:50] <Eleaf> Agamotto, well it doesn't really say.
[04:50] <Varanger> what is gnome's program for k3b ?
[04:50] <nickrud> Matthew_W, can you dual boot?
[04:50] <Eleaf> Varanger, I just use k3b anyways
[04:50] <BxL> Varanger, GnomeBaker
[04:51] <Eleaf> Agamotto, hmmmmmmmmm
[04:51] <Matthew_W> nickrud; nope.
[04:51] <Varanger> Thanks BxL
[04:51] <Matthew_W> nickrud; not unless I format everything.
[04:51] <Varanger> Thanks Eleaf
[04:51] <Matthew_W> nickrud; I wish I could remember this, it's just some OPTION line to add, because I'm using DVI and it's sending it through the VGA port.
[04:51] <Strat> Goldfisch: the actual error is: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[04:52] <DShepherd> Agamotto: sometimes.. :)
[04:52] <nickrud> Matthew_W, there's a script out there that will post a file to pastebin. Maybe someone here knows it.
[04:52] <Goldfisch> Strat: I have typed that in to Google.com to see if anyone else has had a similar problem.
[04:52] <Eleaf> Agamotto, well.  If it didn't support older 3.5 volt cards.  Would the card just not work and the end.  Or would it cause damage to the motherboard?
[04:53] <ilba7r> Korupt, sorry the right name is gtk2-engines there are number you can try and than use what you prefer. look at this site too to see how the theme might look like http://www.gnome-look.org/
[04:53] <Agamotto> Eleaf:  Most of the time, it would just not work, but I know that some MSI mobos are very sensitive to voltage changes....
[04:53] <Eleaf> I have a DFI
[04:53] <ilba7r> Korupt, look at this link too http://art.gnome.org/
[04:54] <Eleaf> Agamotto, I can wait.  I have a 6200 on the way to me.  But I can't use my new motherboard/cpu/ram untill I get that.  And I won't get that till next week but I won't be here next week... lol
[04:54] <Agamotto> Eleaf:  Figures, doesn't it?
[04:55] <Eleaf> Agamotto, lol
[04:56] <amicrawler> how to install nvidia drivers and make them work
[04:56] <myke> hey is there a news group reader for linux?
[04:56] <nickrud> !nvidia
[04:56] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:56] <Agamotto> amicrawler:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-config
[04:57] <amicrawler> ok then what after that ?
[04:57] <nickrud> amicrawler, the above is supposed to be good advice
[04:57] <Goldfisch> Strat: I did some poking around. NOthing real conclusive. All I can say is, you need to do the same. That is what google is there to help you with.
[04:57] <amicrawler> don't i need to config them?
[04:58] <Strat> Goldfisch - I know.  I have spent four hours on this.
[04:58] <Agamotto> In a terminal, type sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:58] <Agamotto> That should do the trick after an X reset
[04:58] <Goldfisch> Strat: Kind of weird, but sometimes you need to walk away from tough problems and stop thinking about them. Then come back and attack them the next day. Sometimes it makes the answer fall right in front of you. :)
[04:58] <Strat> There is no clear guidance.  Not even any vuage guidance.  Every distro is different, yada, yada, yada.  Really frustrating.
[04:58] <Strat> did that too
[04:59] <s_spiff> :P
[04:59] <amicrawler> Couldn't find package nvidia-glx-config
[04:59] <amicrawler> amicrawler@ubuntu:~$
[04:59] <Agamotto> amicrawler:  With most distros, the nvidia drivers configure themselves
[04:59] <Strat> I am stuck.  I hate to go back to windoze over such a trival, stupid issue, but I cant get any clear guidance and am tiring of looking just for a freakin sound card
[04:59] <ki4ikl> YES THANKYOU i got my cam working this is a good os, i love it and i have to teach my dad how to use it he sucks with software in anything but some windows but a hardware genius, i haven't tried hardware so me and him are gonna sit down and take apart a comptuer so, yay
[05:00] <tim__> what are the differences between hoary&breezy
[05:00] <CarlFK> amicrawler: nvidia-settings
[05:00] <Strat> Everything else (almost) has been great, but this is a pain in the ass
[05:00] <s_spiff> strat, have you read the thread : Is ubuntu meant for you?
[05:00] <ryan76> Hi, is there a Sound person on here? I'm having problems with alsamixer
[05:00] <Agamotto> amicrawler:  Fire up Synaptic, and search for nvidia, then install the packages.  This will take care of just about everything for you
[05:00] <s_spiff>  in the forums?
[05:00] <amicrawler> Couldn't find package nvidia-glx-config
[05:00] <ppcguy> hey all running 5.10. Have cable internet and went out and bought a linksys befsr41 cable/dsl router. But can't get the damn thing set up.. Looked @ the forum and wiki still nothing. Any ideas?
[05:00] <s_spiff> amicrawler, did you search in Synaptic?
[05:00] <nickrud> tim__, on the surface? not a lot. Both work pretty well
[05:01] <amicrawler> sorry i'm new to deb
[05:01] <CarlFK> amicrawler: the name of the package is nvidia-settings
[05:01] <Strat> Well, I have twenty years of programming, wrote a massive software system, have worked with PCs since they were invented, built one in 1977, wrote the modem drivers, have installed enterprise networks, etc.  Don't know what other qualifications I need.
[05:01] <CarlFK> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/x11/nvidia-settings
[05:01] <amicrawler> found no resaluts
[05:01] <s_spiff> ppcguy, I may be able to help, if you're using pppoe
[05:01] <Strat> Just don't know how to get Breezy's sound system to work.
[05:01] <ppcguy> nope dhcp
[05:02] <CarlFK> Strat: so write a sound card driver ;)
[05:02] <s_spiff> ouu ok, nopes then, sorry
[05:02] <BxL> Strat, well, why don't you write your sound card driver
[05:02] <s_spiff> write??
[05:02] <BxL> hehe
[05:02] <Strat> Time vs value.
[05:02] <Goldfisch> Strat: Uhh...patience? Sounds cheesy, I know. :p
[05:02] <ryan76> all the instructions I can find on alsa say you need alsamixer, i install it then I get:   alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[05:02] <CarlFK> wez just kidding
[05:02] <s_spiff> how to do that?
[05:02] <jaro> Strat - i didn't read what your problem was, can you please tell me again?
[05:03] <s_spiff> CarlFK, , but in linux you can actually do it right?
[05:03] <bradley_> arrggg... i can't get my inet to work... i have cable and all other comps on the same router work... just one wont, and for no apparent reason
[05:03] <bradley_> i have checked the network settings in system admin networks
[05:03] <bradley_> but to no avail
[05:03] <amicrawler> pice of shit  ubuntu
[05:03] <CarlFK> s_spiff: kinda - the hard part is getting good specs from the hardware (soundcard) manufacture
[05:04] <amicrawler> dam restrictive arkhives
[05:04] <s_spiff> bradley_, did you ask this on 'Networking' on forums, I think you'll get a more in detail reply there.
[05:04] <s_spiff> ohh ok
[05:04] <Kr0ntab> ppcguy, what router did you have before this one....
[05:04] <jaro> I also had some difficulties with it because I did have two soundcard and intergrated (the poor one) was selected as default upon every reboot. It sucked. I disabled the card ;-/ Quite a hack.
[05:04] <johndarkhorse> amicrawler: please respect us with your language choices
[05:04] <cdubya> bradley_, are you getting a good IP?
[05:04] <bradley_> s_spiff i shall
[05:04] <jaro> (hack = no real solution)
[05:04] <bradley_> cdubya: what do you mean?
[05:04] <Strat> Thanks jaro - Cirrus Logic SoundFusion CS4610/11 won't work with Breezy. Shows up ok in lspci.  Error when I try to use it
[05:04] <amicrawler> will some body pm  me
[05:04] <bradley_> cdubya: how do i check that?
[05:04] <cdubya> bradley_, ifconfig
[05:05] <bradley_> cdubya: yes i'm getting the ip given by the router...
[05:05] <Strat> Jaro - error shows up when I try to unmute - No volume control elements and / or devices found
[05:05] <cdubya> and you're sure it's a good IP in the same subnet, yes?
[05:05] <jaro> bradley_: With inet I had some problems with inet6 being enabled by default. It caused problems in ipv4 networks somehow ;-/
[05:06] <Strat> Jaro also - alsamixer error: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[05:06] <bradley_> cdubya: everything seems to be set up correctly... no settings have been changed that i know off, one night it was working fine, the next morning nothing...
[05:06] <bradley_> i can ping things from the terminal but nothing else....
[05:06] <bradley_> very strange
[05:06] <cdubya> bradley_, can you ping outside the router?
[05:06] <bradley_> yes
[05:06] <bradley_> i can ping google for example
[05:06] <jaro> Strat: and driver for that card is loaded i suppose.
[05:06] <cdubya> bradley_, dns?
[05:07] <blood> can some1 tell me how to get the files from here http://cvs.transgaming.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/winex/ to download?
[05:07] <bradley_> cdubya: sorry... n00b here... dns?
[05:07] <Strat> jaro - how do I know for sure?
[05:07] <Strat> ALSA pages were confusing to me
[05:07] <jaro> lsmod | grep ... somewhat
[05:07] <cdubya> bradley_, I was thinking you're having DNS issues.
[05:07] <jaro> I don't know what the module is named like :-/
[05:07] <cdubya> bradley_, dns = domain name service
[05:08] <bradley_> gotcha... well i've only dealt with dns when setting up domain names for my sites... i'm new to the networking/server side of things...
[05:08] <cdubya> bradley_, what's your /etc/resolv.conf say?
[05:08] <amicrawler> need help this os is very stupid
[05:08] <Strat> lsmod shows dozens of sound drivers loaded in the mixer, codec, etc - how do I know what I need to be sure it's working
[05:08] <jaro> Did you try hardware detection (I didn't invoke it manually for year so I can hardly remember what is it's name)
[05:08] <Strat> jaro - don't know about hw detect
[05:09] <jaro> Strat: discover
[05:09] <nickrud> amicrawler, you hurt us to the quick. In what way is this os stupid?
[05:09] <ilba7r> amicrawler, this os is linux like anyother linux it is not stupid you on the other hand do not know how to use it so you need to start a little learning
[05:09] <ki4ikl> does anyone know about the error where you can't get camorama to go wider image?
[05:09] <amicrawler> i normaly use suse
[05:09] <amicrawler> or rpms
[05:09] <s_spiff> amicrawler, you know, you're offending quite a few people... I know linux can be frustrating, been there done that
[05:09] <ilba7r> amicrawler, suse is also linux they are all linux
[05:09] <amicrawler> yes i know
[05:10] <amicrawler> deb apt-get
[05:10] <ilba7r> amicrawler, now post your question and i am sure someone will help
[05:10] <bradley_> search clspco.adelphia.net | nameserver 24.53.86.13 | nameserver 24.53.86.14 | nameserver 10.0.1.2
[05:10] <s_spiff> amicrawler, I reccoment one thread, read it, its 'Is ubuntu meant for me'
[05:10] <Madpilot> amicrawler: so what're you actually trying to do, aside from offend the channel?
[05:10] <bradley_> that's what it says cdubya
[05:10] <s_spiff> I would reccomend it to anyone and everyone
[05:10] <blood> how do i compile source?
[05:10] <bradley_> the | being line breaks
[05:10] <dooglus> is there a free video editor which can edit .wmv files?
[05:10] <bradley_> does that look correct?
[05:11] <amicrawler> ok  i need a litte help i don;t want to be restrictive on the deb arc
[05:11] <s_spiff>  hey, I want to install oDC, and I have the link, it offeres me, a .exe, a binary, and source.
[05:11] <nickrud> amicrawler, ah, switching to the weird debian naming scheme is trying. I do remember.
[05:11] <s_spiff> What should I download, and how should I install it?
[05:11] <DShepherd> does anyone know how to, if it is possible (even if you can do it dapper), to change the start date of the calendar to another day other than monday.... like sunday
[05:11] <Agamotto> blood:  Go into the source dir, and type config && make && make install
[05:11] <amicrawler> i seem much like windows they will not let you get what ever app you want to get
[05:11] <Goldfisch> s_spiff: Well, a .exe won't help you much in the world of linux.
[05:11] <s_spiff> yeah,
[05:11] <s_spiff>  what about source?
[05:11] <ilba7r> amicrawler, you just need to enable all your repos ok
[05:11] <s_spiff> can i do something with it?
[05:11] <ilba7r> !repos
[05:11] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:12] <cdubya> bradley_, and the 10.0.1.2 is what?
[05:12] <bradley_> i don't know... it's just the third nameserver ip... what should it be?
[05:12] <ilba7r> follow ubotu link. it is not link window some people run servers they do not need any security hazards as such do not need all repos
[05:12] <ilba7r> !restricted
[05:12] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:12] <Madpilot> amicrawler:  there's something over 15,000 files in the full Ubuntu archives, it's not too restrictive... :P
[05:12] <ilba7r> follow ubotu link for property software too
[05:13] <ki4ikl> what was the website to that driver?
[05:13] <amicrawler> i can't get xine to work with my dvd and can't get mp3 to work
[05:13] <s_spiff> anyways, I'm come back later, have to sit to study :P
[05:13] <blood> what is the source dir?
[05:13] <s_spiff> thanks Goldfisch
[05:13] <blood> or where..
[05:13] <s_spiff>  thanks people.
[05:13] <s_spiff>  cya
[05:13] <ilba7r> amicrawler, so most probably you need too look at the restricted link
[05:13] <Madpilot> !mp3
[05:13] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:13] <jaro> Strat: you could use discover --enable-all -v
[05:13] <jaro> this will print out some infomation about what devices you have...
[05:13] <ilba7r> amicrawler, install totem xine after you install w32codec
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> gee years ago it was people fighting to get software working, now its people fighting to get videos and music to play. :P
[05:14] <ilba7r> and all shall be fine
[05:14] <dooglus> is there a free video editor which can edit .wmv files?
[05:14] <amicrawler> no just xine-ut
[05:14] <Agamotto> amichrawler:  That is relatively easy... the codecs are already in .debs for you, so it is a simple matter of fetching them
[05:14] <ilba7r> amicrawler, by the way in suse have you ever been able to run dvd
[05:14] <Agamotto> Dr_Willis:  Much the same on the Windows side as well
[05:14] <amicrawler> yes no problem
[05:14] <jaro> Spif: oh, sorry, no -v but -d
[05:14] <jaro> Strat: ^ for you
[05:14] <Goldfisch> Free video editor editing Windows Movie Version files. That would be a sign of the apocalypse!
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> Agamotto,  in windows now a days its "How to i get rid of this spyware..." :)
[05:15] <ilba7r> amicrawler, it is disabled  by default and cause no one sell property driver for linux they wre in delima last time i checked
[05:15] <amicrawler> why ?
[05:15] <Agamotto> Dr_Willis:  I know.  I have had five phone calls this week about the new exploit/worm/whatever...
[05:15] <ilba7r> amicrawler, cause they can not support it officially
[05:15] <amicrawler> i just went to xine and downloaded the rpms and navdvd libs and wa la
[05:16] <amicrawler> i'm not asking them to support it
[05:16] <ilba7r> amicrawler, for encrypted dvd. last suse i treid was 9.2 so perhaps
[05:16] <Eugman> Is it possible to rename a symlink? I want to know so I might be able to have a different name for a folder on my webserver.
[05:16] <ilba7r> !tell amicrawler about restircted
[05:17] <cdubya> Dr_Willis, that's how I got my neighbor on Linux.....:)
[05:17] <ilba7r> !tell amicrawler about restricted format
[05:17] <Goldfisch> Eugman: rm <originalsmylink> ; ln -s <originaldest> <newsymlink>
[05:17] <ilba7r> !restricted
[05:17] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:17] <Goldfisch> Eugman: That should do it in one fell swoop.
[05:17] <jino> where can i change my splas image?
[05:17] <amicrawler> i use suse 10
[05:17] <jaro> good night to everyone (more likely good morning to people in Europe/Prague TZ) Strat: good luck with your sound card
[05:17] <amicrawler> i'm trying deb i heard it was very user friendly
[05:18] <ilba7r> amicrawler open ubotu link and follow the steps and i am sure everything will run fine
[05:18] <mondi> ey anyone here using dapper?
[05:18] <Eugman> that not what I want goldfisch let me explain my self better.
[05:18] <DShepherd> mondi: hey
[05:18] <DShepherd> mondi: you tried the thing? the calendar thing?
[05:18] <Kolya> Hi there
[05:18] <mondi> DShepherd: I did it
[05:18] <amicrawler> what link
[05:19] <ubuntu> hello
[05:19] <Madpilot> amicrawler: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:19] <mondi> DShepherd: so the issue with the alarm closing shouldn't be a problem anymore right?
[05:19] <ilba7r> amicrawler, look at the link posted by Madpilot
[05:19] <tim__> im trying to install opera and im getting this error /Desktop$ sudo dpkg -i 8.51-20051114.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb
[05:19] <tim__> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[05:19] <Madpilot> amicrawler: also, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:19] <DShepherd> mondi: so you were able to change the beginning of the week from monday to sunday?
[05:19] <anavim> is there a wiki for getting a scanner to work, and/or supported scanners for ubuntu?
[05:20] <Eugman> I don't want to change the symlink to something else I just want to to look like it based on the tree structure. So instead of /localhost/reallylongnametotype/ it would look like /localhost/shortname/ . However it would still be getting the files from /reallylongnametotype/.
[05:20] <mondi> DShepherd: yeah
[05:20] <DShepherd> mondi: alarm? what alarm?
[05:20] <Madpilot> tim__: have you got Synaptic running? if so close it.
[05:20] <Goldfisch> tim__: Do you have synaptic running? It locks up other apt-get jobs.
[05:20] <DShepherd> mondi: great!!!
[05:20] <mondi> DShepherd: oh nothing
[05:20] <tim__> yeah synaptec is open
[05:20] <Kolya> I have a question: When I try to uninstall the gnome-games the uninstaller warns me that ubuntu-desktop relies on them...?
[05:20] <tim__> thanks
[05:20] <mondi> DShepherd: I changed it in evolution
[05:20] <Madpilot> Goldfisch: my point, I believe :P
[05:20] <DShepherd> mondi: great!!!
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> Kolya,  yes. desktop is a meta-package.. dont worry about it :P
[05:21] <Agamotto> Kolya:  Yes, they depend on each other as a set of packages, don't wory
[05:21] <Agamotto> worry, even
[05:21] <DShepherd> mondi: so what are the visual changes in gnome?
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> Be happy.
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:21] <mondi> DShepherd: nothing extreme
[05:21] <Kolya> Dr_Willis, so I can uninstall the games anyway?
[05:21] <mondi> DShepherd: some minor graphic improvements
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> Kolya,  of course :P
[05:21] <ilba7r> kolya you will most probably need ubontu-desktop for upgrading. for it depends on all other packages but does nothing by itself
[05:21] <Eugman> So is the name of a symlink dependant on what it points to?
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> Eugman,  no.
[05:21] <mondi> DShepherd: it feels like Im using windows xp with the faded background whenever a system question comes up
[05:22] <DShepherd> mondi: is that a good thing or a bad thing?
[05:22] <Eugman> What would the rename command be in terminal?
[05:22] <Madpilot> anavim: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo
[05:22] <dooglus> someone please try playing http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/rattlebag3.smil with mplayer.  does it work for you?
[05:22] <mondi> DShepherd: its a good thing so long as it doesn't affect performance
[05:22] <Kolya> Thank you guys
[05:22] <DShepherd> mondi: and it doesnt.?
[05:22] <dooglus> it tells me "Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll".  any idea where I can get the necessary?
[05:22] <mondi> DShepherd: yeah it doesn't in fact its faster than breezy
[05:23] <Goldfisch> Eugman: You must want to use either an alias, or use the rewrite module in apache.
[05:23] <nickrud> dooglus, no, smil will not work with mplayer
[05:23] <DShepherd> mondi: man.. you tempting me to upgrade. stop staying that :)
[05:23] <mondi> DShepherd: and consumes less memore
[05:23] <anavim> nevermind, I just needed to plug in the scanner before running kooka  :P
[05:23] <mondi> DShepherd: faster and less memory with no tweaks
[05:23] <DShepherd> mondi: my fingers are itching
[05:23] <anavim> whoohoo, that was easy  :D
[05:24] <mondi> DShepherd: hehe
[05:24] <nickrud> dooglus, it's a realplayer format that's not much used
[05:24] <dooglus> nickrud: jusy for you, you mean?  or ever?
[05:24] <CookieNinja> dooglus, that's not the url you want to give to mplayer
[05:24] <dooglus> nickrud: what if I was to find the plugins?
[05:24] <mondi> DShepherd: just edit breezy to dapper and the twitch is gone :-)
[05:24] <nickrud> dooglus, I only got realplayer to ever play that stuff
[05:24] <joshua> any links for help configuring a tv in card?
[05:24] <jared> how can I enable the root user to log into gnome from the command prompt?
[05:24] <mondi> DShepherd: though I don't know about todays updates
[05:24] <DShepherd> mondi: that is superb.. so how is firefox 1.5?? intergrtes well
[05:24] <Eugman> Goldfisch: as it stands I put symlinks in /var/www/ and renaming it would be sufficent as long as that doesn't affect it's target.
[05:25] <mondi> DShepherd: I haven't accepted the new updates yet
[05:25] <dooglus> CookieNinja: what is the URL I want to give to mplayer?
[05:25] <CookieNinja> docta_v,  a .smil file is just a txt file telling windows media player where to play the stream from and a bit more information ... like the actual stream you want to play ....
[05:25] <mondi> DShepherd: yeah surprisingly it works better here than on breezy
[05:25] <mondi> DShepherd: strange
[05:25] <Eugman> And since dr.willis says the name isn't dependant I just need to know the terminal command to rename a file.
[05:25] <nickrud> dooglus, if you ever do get it working, fix restricted formats.
[05:26] <DShepherd> mondi: good.... that very good
[05:26] <CookieNinja> assuming you have the right codecs, dooglus ... you want to try this in the shell or give the url in this line to mplayer -> mplayer rtsp://streaming2.rte.ie/2004/0803/03082004rte-rattlebag.rm
[05:26] <mondi> DShepherd: but I can't get rhythmbox to play anything ...
[05:26] <dooglus> nickrud: I looked inside that file.  it gave a URL.  I downloaded *that* URL and that gave a different URL.  I'm now trying to play that with mplayer
[05:26] <Goldfisch> Eugman: This is alias/follow symlinks I have on my webserver to lead to my wiki website.
[05:26] <Goldfisch> Eugman: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6776
[05:26] <dooglus> it's rtsp://streaming2.rte.ie/2004/0803/03082004rte-rattlebag.rm - can you play that?
[05:26] <mondi> DShepherd: but I can play using other players
[05:26] <CookieNinja> it didn't work here, for me, dooglus ... and it's too late for me try to work it out
[05:27] <blood> whats the first thing i need to learn on linux? and how do i do it...
[05:27] <dooglus> blood: what do you want to use linux for?
[05:27] <DShepherd> mondi: ok..
[05:27] <BxL> blood, leanr the command: man
[05:27] <Agamotto> blood:  Well, let's see, you have installed, you have figured out how to irc....
[05:27] <nickrud> dooglus, sure, you can do that. but only realplayer really recognizes what a smil file is (or also microsoft's player, I've not really used that much)
[05:27] <ki4ikl> can someone give me the link i reviced earlier from the dude abotu the spca5xx driver
[05:27] <Eugman> It already follows symlinks. I need to know how to rename the symlink that is in place.
[05:27] <blood> i new that from windows
[05:27] <Goldfisch> dooglus: I tried, but didn't hear anything. It was mplayer inside firefox.
[05:27] <CookieNinja> .rm is real player afaik ... you might want to try that program dooglus
[05:27] <ki4ikl> wait let me log in as non root
[05:27] <dooglus> nickrud: I just want to play it.  if picking the smil file apart by hand works, that'll do for me
[05:28] <DShepherd> mondi: anything else impressive in dapper other faster and less memory?
[05:28] <joshua> video card configuration is located where ???????????????//
[05:28] <Goldfisch> Eugman: Use what I initially said. Try it. It should work.
[05:28] <nickrud> dooglus, sure.
[05:28] <dooglus> it's very slowly filling a cache: "Cache fill:  3.22% (270336 bytes)   "
[05:28] <DShepherd> mondi: ahhh question.. what;s the device manager like now?
[05:28] <blood> how do i learn the command?
[05:28] <Agamotto> joshua:  etc/X11/Xorg
[05:28] <amicrawler> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:28] <amicrawler>  realplayer_10.0.6-0.0_i386.deb
[05:28] <Agamotto> blood:  which command?
[05:29] <joshua> agamotto tv card is in xorg?
[05:29] <amicrawler> dpkg: error processing w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb (--install):
[05:29] <amicrawler>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[05:29] <blood> all of them
[05:29] <Goldfisch> blood: man man <--- read the man page on using man pages.
[05:29] <blood> it the terminal
[05:29] <blood> in
[05:29] <dooglus> DShepherd: dapper doesn't look much different than breezy from what I can see.  the "there are new updates" popup is prettier, but badly needs antialiasing.  the shutdown dialog has some pretty graphics, but other than that, I've not notice much difference
[05:29] <Agamotto> joshua:  All video is in Xorg
[05:29] <skon> Could anyone think of a reason why my domain name resolution is really slow but my actual download speeds are as they should be? When I switch pages, it takes about 20 seconds to resolve the name, but once it starts loading, it loads almost instantly.
[05:29] <joshua> is xorg THE driver file for both
[05:30] <mondi> DShepherd: I think its the same . but it did detect my webcam automatically
[05:30] <DShepherd> dooglus: yeah that's look.. I didnt expect much visual changes... what does the device manager look like now? device manager in breezy sucked
[05:30] <Agamotto> joshua:  It is the system for both... your tv/tv card would be in the Xorg.conf file usually
[05:30] <dooglus> DShepherd: where's that?
[05:30] <DShepherd> mondi: the same... are you sure..? cause the device manager sucked.. in breezy..
[05:30] <steve44> Goldfisch, man woman  - no manual entry for woman    BAH  thought I had them figured out finally
[05:30] <joshua> what is the bttv file then?
[05:31] <Goldfisch> steve44: I don't think the HDD on your computer has the capacity to store that man page. :)
[05:31] <DShepherd> dooglus: system -> prefs--> Device manager
[05:31] <Agamotto> That may be the entry for your specific tv card
[05:31] <mondi> DShepherd: it shows a tree view of all the devices
[05:31] <dooglus> ok
[05:31] <joshua> I keep reading that I need it to run a tv in the coak of my video card I can't figure out whats going on
[05:31] <dooglus> DShepherd: it's just a big blank white window (!)
[05:31] <Goldfisch> joshua: bttv is a kernel module supporting a particular type of TV tuner cards based on the Brooktree chip.
[05:31] <mondi> DShepherd: and the details of the hardware are on the right pane
[05:31] <DShepherd> mondi: sounds good
[05:31] <rikai-2> does anyone know what ports need to be forward for remote desktop and ssh?
[05:31] <amicrawler> can i use xine and watch my dvd in it with deb ?
[05:31] <mondi> DShepherd: nothing fancy
[05:32] <dooglus> DShepherd: oh, it's slowly drawing itself.  very slowly.
[05:32] <DShepherd> mondi: yeah I know..but does it work?
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> amicrawler,  should be able to.
[05:32] <Goldfisch> rikai-2: sshd typically runs on port 22. remote desktop is a fancy wrapper around vnc, which is usually in the 5900 series.
[05:32] <rikai-2> alrighty, thanks. ;)
[05:32] <mondi> DShepherd: yeah though I didn't do anything xcept look around
[05:32] <joshua> My card isn't recognized by ubuntu, I found a refernence to it in bttv.....any ideas on procedures to get it working?
[05:32] <Goldfisch> rikai-2: Just remember, that vnc connections are not secure, unless you tunnel them through ssh.
[05:32] <DShepherd> mondi: what are your machines specs.. tell me what the device manager tells you
[05:33] <DShepherd> dooglus: how slow?
[05:33] <joshua> so i need to modify ubuntu kernel to recognize and utililize my card?
[05:33] <amicrawler> xine comes up as a old xine will not support dvd
[05:33] <mondi> DShepherd: centrino 768 mb ram 32 shared video 40g hdd
[05:33] <apollo2011> has anyone hooked up their Palm via Bluetooth for internet access?
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> !restrictedformats
[05:33] <ubotu> restrictedformats is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:33] <DShepherd> mondi: ahhh 769 mb ramm <- nice
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> read there yet amicrawler ?
[05:34] <DShepherd> dooglus: what is your hardware specs
[05:34] <DShepherd> ?
[05:34] <dooglus> DShepherd: it took about 5 seconds before anything appeared.  then a big white empty window took about 10 or 15 seconds before anything appeared.  then it all appeared at once, but it doesn't know anything about my system
[05:34] <dooglus> DShepherd: I'm using a 2.2GHz Intel P4 laptop
[05:34] <DShepherd> dooglus: memory?
[05:34] <dooglus> DShepherd: and here's what device manager knows about the Intel P4: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/DeviceManager.png
[05:34] <dooglus> DShepherd: can't remember.  356Mb or something
[05:34] <DShepherd> k
[05:34] <dooglus> DShepherd: funny number
[05:35] <Eugman> Sorry if I'm being annoying but wouldn't your initial advice jjust make a new symlink connecting a different folder?
[05:35] <dooglus>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[05:35] <dooglus> Mem:        353148     348872       4276          0       3048      81504
[05:35] <dooglus> (according to 'free')
[05:35] <Agamotto> 256 or 384, I bet
[05:35] <dooglus> no, I don't think it's either of those 2.
[05:35] <Techie_dude> okay, i got my cam working there for a little while and then it says can't connect to the  device at /dev/video0
[05:35] <mondi> DShepherd: it gives me some of the names of the manufacturer but it can't detect which model
[05:35] <Madpilot> amicrawler: totem-xine runs DVDs for me...
[05:36] <Techie_dude> you have to get the libcss thing amicrawler
[05:36] <DShepherd> mondi: oh.. :(
[05:36] <mondi> are there any applications in linux where I could test out my webcam?
[05:36] <Techie_dude> amicrawler wait and i will get you the package name
[05:36] <Goldfisch> joshua: Check /boot/config-x.y.z, and see if you have BT848 enabled.
[05:36] <Agamotto> !ubotu tell amicrawler about libdvdcss
[05:36] <dooglus> oh, it's 384.  http://www.uktsupport.co.uk/advent/laptop/7009.htm
[05:37] <joshua> goldfisch ----can you give me syntax ?
[05:37] <DShepherd> dooglus: does dapper feel faster than gnome?
[05:37] <Goldfisch> joshua: grep BT848 /boot/config*
[05:37] <Techie_dude> can someone please help me with my webcam issue
[05:37] <joshua> donka
[05:37] <DShepherd> dooglus: sorry faster than breezy
[05:37] <Eugman> !commands
[05:37] <ubotu> commands is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[05:37] <amicrawler> i need  to find xinelib-1.1.1.
[05:38] <dooglus> DShepherd: yes.  I remember when I first switched to it I was quite surprised at how much faster if felt.
[05:38] <DShepherd> mondi: what about nautilus.. any changes there>
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> amicrawler,  you seem to be doing all this the hard way. I recall just apt-get installing a few things and it played them
[05:38] <joshua> says bt848=m
[05:38] <DShepherd> dooglus: great
[05:38] <mondi> DShepherd: there is a search option now
[05:38] <Goldfisch> Eugman: If type ls -l /var/www/yoursymlink, you will it has an arrow pointed at your target directory. You can have any number of symlinks pointing to the same name. It is not the destination that changes, but the source symlink.
[05:38] <dooglus> DShepherd: the only thing that seems slower to me is the "open file" dialog.  it takes about 15 seconds to appear.
[05:38] <Goldfisch> joshua: Okay, type "lsmod | grep bttv"
[05:38] <DShepherd> mondi: yeah I heard... any other changes? or additions?
[05:39] <joshua> was that supposed to do something?
[05:39] <mondi> DShepherd: I don't know if it was there before , but there are options now to hide the different panels
[05:39] <joshua> or did it ?
[05:39] <dooglus> hey!  that smil file just started playing.  scared the sh1t out of me!  how long was that?
[05:40] <DShepherd> mondi: cant remember what breezy was like :-D?
[05:40] <Mr_Molez> i have compiled my own kernel using the default kernels config file... but i cant get second hard drive or cdrom drive working.. Anyone else found this problem ?
[05:40] <Eugman> Yes Goldfisch but when you make a new symlink it takes the name of the target folder. That is my problem. I want it to have a different name.
[05:40] <amicrawler> ok
[05:40] <nickrud> dooglus, about 12 minutes
[05:40] <dooglus> about 12 minutes I reckon.  looks like it downloaded the whole thing before starting to play it
[05:40] <mondi> DShepherd: yeah , and coz I am new ubuntu user , I was using mandriva so I was used to kde
[05:40] <Techie_dude> ack, can anyone help me with my webcam issue, PLEASE,
[05:40] <Goldfisch> Eugman: No. If you type ln -s <target>, then by default the symlink will take its name. Add a second argument, ln -s <target> <symlink>, and your symlink will have an alternate name.
[05:41] <amicrawler> i'm looking  for a few things
[05:41] <Madpilot> amicrawler: totem-xine + libdvdread3 plays DVDs fine, it's by far the easiest way to do it...
[05:41] <Goldfisch> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2006-01-07 23:41 foobar -> /usr/local/src/mythtv/
[05:41] <Goldfisch> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2005-09-25 20:03 mythtv -> /usr/local/src/mythtv/
[05:41] <DShepherd> mondi: k
[05:41] <DShepherd> wanna send me some screenshots and stuff?
[05:41] <joshua> tvtime still has no signal do i need to reboot?
[05:42] <DShepherd> mondi: wanna send me some screenshots and stuff?
[05:42] <mondi> DShepherd: sure , where do I send em
[05:42] <nickrud> I've only ever read a smil file just to see what read it, anyway. Was it worth it dooglus ;)
[05:42] <Eugman> oh ok. But I'd have to be in the www directory for that to work the way you said correct?
[05:42] <dooglus> where do you set up whether you want "follows mouse" or "click to type" focus in gnome?
[05:42] <DShepherd> mondi: check your pm
[05:42] <mondi> k
[05:42] <joshua> hey goldfisch im attempting mythtv    am i even close?
[05:43] <Goldfisch> Eugman. Yeah. mythtv in my case is symlink in my /var/www. I created foobar to demonstrate two different symlinks pointed at the same destination.
[05:43] <DShepherd> mondi: got that?
[05:43] <Goldfisch> joshua: A little extra info --->  https://scifi.homelinux.net/mediawiki/index.php/MythTV
[05:43] <Goldfisch> joshua: Close is so subjective. I am trying to figure out if you have your TV tuner card in line. First get it working with something like xawtv. MythTV comes later.
[05:43] <blood> how do i install cvs on my computer?
[05:44] <Goldfisch> joshua: type "lsmod | grep bttv" so you can see if the kernel module is loaded.
[05:44] <dooglus> blood: type alt-f2 and then "sudo apt-get install cvs"
[05:44] <stpere> blood: sudo apt-get install cvs
[05:44] <Eugman> ok. The command you had posted didn't make sense because normally the third argument when I make a symlink is where to put it instead of what to name it.
[05:44] <stpere> blood, when asked, insert the install cd
[05:44] <joshua> $ returned no informnation with that command
[05:45] <Goldfisch> joshua: What do you get typing "modprobe bttv"
[05:45] <joshua> tvtime loads butxawtv won't boot
[05:45] <dooglus> blood: oh, and tick 'run in a terminal'
[05:45] <amicrawler> what i'm looking for is  things i can get in suse and regular debian with out complacations and running in to problems
[05:45] <joshua> should i post errors on paste?
[05:45] <Goldfisch> Eugman: I only typed two arguments. "-s" is not an argument, but really a flag, indicating symbolic link as opposed to hard link.
[05:46] <Goldfisch> joshua: Yeah, on pastebin
[05:46] <joshua> k
[05:46] <nickrud> amicrawler, if you only install with apt-get or synaptic, you won't have complications. apt-cache search will help you find the right packages
[05:46] <amicrawler> i do have that
[05:46] <amicrawler> it say  all the time not found
[05:47] <nickrud> what's not found
[05:47] <nickrud> amicrawler, what apps are you wanting to run?
[05:47] <ryan__> Hey all
[05:47] <Techie_dude> i am sitting in my floor with my wireless keyboard using my cmoputer so i can'\ play wiht my sun
[05:48] <Techie_dude> sun=usb
[05:48] <joshua> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6777
[05:48] <amicrawler> xine unstable  dvd opengl games dvdripping apps and new apps
[05:48] <Goldfisch> joshua: Sorry. My fault. Type "sudo modprobe bttv"
[05:49] <Madpilot> amicrawler: that's not the most exact list... but enable the Universe/Multiverse repos and update, and you should be OK...
[05:49] <joshua> i have so much to learn
[05:49] <nickrud> amicrawler, if you'd post /etc/apt/source.list to a pastebin, that's the place to start.
[05:49] <joshua> nothing comes back...
[05:49] <amicrawler> i did that last night
[05:49] <Agamotto> joshua:  Yep, like anything else, it is just a matter of patience
[05:49] <nickrud> amicrawler, well, that was then. this is now.
[05:50] <Goldfisch> Ahh, but the feeling once you conquer a major application, and your linux servers bow at your command!
[05:50] <Techie_dude> okay i got the spca5xx driver running smooth with my cam but then i restarted my computer and it wont work i tried modprobe again and it wont work
[05:50] <dooglus> when I click on a URL in gaim, if I'm running XFCE, the link opens in firefox, but if I'm running GNOME it opens in a terminal (in w3m).  where is that configured?  I'd like it to use firefox in GNOME.
[05:51] <joshua> nothing comes back...
[05:51] <Goldfisch> joshua: Again, do the "lsmod | grep bttv" and see if you now have an entry.
[05:51] <Agamotto> System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications
[05:52] <dooglus> Agamotto: is that to me?  if so I looked there and firefox is already my preferred browser.
[05:52] <joshua> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6778
[05:52] <Agamotto> dooglus:  Hmmmm
[05:52] <dooglus> Agamotto: that's what I thought.  Hmmm.
[05:52] <joshua> it came back with info
[05:52] <Techie_dude> does anyone know how to help me with my cam troubles
[05:53] <amicrawler> ok installed the nv drivers how to make active
[05:53] <Goldfisch> joshua: Excellent. Now type, "dmesg | grep bttv" to examine the syslogs for any bttv module actions.
[05:53] <dooglus> Agamotto: incidentally, I have never configured anything to use w3m - I didn't even know it was installed until gaim started running it!  (And yes, gaim used to use firefox a few months ago)
[05:53] <Agamotto> Techie_dude:  Most likely not, at least with the current crowd.  You might wish to try again in a little while
[05:53] <Agamotto> dooglus:  Interesting
[05:54] <anavim> yeah, gaim likes using konqueror on my system even though I use firefox
[05:54] <Madpilot> !tell anavim about nvidia
[05:55] <anavim> why?
[05:55] <Madpilot> anavim: the bot should have just pm'd you...
[05:55] <anavim> why?
[05:55] <anavim> my graphics work fine
[05:55] <amicrawler> am i speeling streamripper right in apt-get
[05:55] <Madpilot> anavim: usually "nv" means "nvidia" - what does it mean in this case, then?
[05:56] <drcode> any one know if ssh client I can put on deomnd for port forward?
[05:56] <anavim> I am having a problem with apt-get update though.  it fails to hit the server, as does curl and wget.  but ping and firefox work fine.. any way to force it to hit the server?
[05:56] <amicrawler> how do i setup my nvidia drivers
[05:56] <Agamotto> nv is the X.org generic 'free' driver... nivida is the non-free driver supplied by nvidia
[05:56] <dooglus> Agamotto: gaim is running "x-terminal-emulator -e /usr/bin/www-browser" - and that runs w3m
[05:57] <anavim> Madpilot, I don't understand, did I say something about nv?
[05:57] <Madpilot> anavim: ack, my mistake, I got your nick mixed up with amicrawler's... sorry
[05:57] <Agamotto> dooglus:  try changing it to /usr/bin/firefox
[05:57] <anavim> Madpilot, ok
[05:57] <Madpilot> amicrawler: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:57] <dooglus> Agamotto: I don't know how it decides to use that
[05:58] <chet--> dapper is installing on compaq v2000, so far so good
[05:58] <johndarkhorse> anavim: pinging the server and actually grabbing things are two differnt things
[05:58] <Agamotto> dooglus:  Must be a simple config text file somwhere in gaim's dir
[05:58] <dooglus> Agamotto: oh, I see.  in gaim's prefs there's a 'browser' section
[05:58] <dooglus> it's set up to run "sensible-browser"
[05:58] <anavim> johndarkhorse, yes, but being able to ping the server and grab the pages with firefox proves they are reachable and that apt-get is indeed broken
[05:59] <anavim> is apt-get using libcurl to grab the files?
[05:59] <anavim> if so, I could manually upgrade libcurl...
[05:59] <Vesh> hmm, Ive got a problem with dual booting, ubuntu works just fine by itself, but if my win xp hard drive is connected, it will refuse to start, any suggestions?
[06:00] <nickrud> dooglus, sensible browser is set by the x-www-browser alternative; sudo update-alternatives x-www-browser
[06:00] <ericmoritz\0> hi
[06:00] <dooglus> nickrud: ls: /usr/bin/x-www-browser: No such file or directory
[06:00] <dooglus> nickrud: what package provides that?
[06:00] <ericmoritz\0> I'm trying to write a custom init.d script that starts a server but I don't want the server running as root.  Does anyone know how I can change that?
[06:01] <joshua> tvtime says cannot open capture device /dev/video
[06:01] <joshua> sry /dev/video0
[06:01] <crimsun> ericmoritz\0: in the initscript, explicitly use the user and/or group as parameters
[06:01] <Agamotto> joshua:  try changing it to video0
[06:01] <DShepherd> mondi: thanks
[06:01] <Goldfisch> ericmoritz\0: Well, "su - <newuser> -c "/my/command <arg1>..." is one way
[06:01] <dooglus> nickrud: I see.  you need the "--config" argument in there too
[06:02] <nickrud> dooglus, it's not in any package, it's an alternative, which is alterable by more than one package... if I could paste here I'd show mine existed
[06:02] <Agamotto> Does jesus save?
[06:02] <joshua> also says Format unsupported by Labtec Webcam Elch2 (my usb webcam) Im focused on tv card though
[06:02] <DShepherd> Agamotto: I hope so
[06:02] <DShepherd> Agamotto: or I am lost
[06:02] <joshua> xawtv crashes ubuntu
[06:02] <Goldfisch> joshua: Did it correctly detect your card and put it in the right tuner mode? (NTSC or PAL). This should be seen in your "dmesg | grep bttv" output. If not, you may to adjust a couple bttv module parameters.
[06:03] <dooglus> nickrud: the symlink existed, but the target of the link didn't
[06:03] <dooglus> nickrud: it's a link like this: /usr/bin/x-www-browser -> /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser
[06:03] <nickrud> dooglus, exactly
[06:03] <dooglus> but /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser didn't exist.
[06:03] <alesco> Is anyone running 5.10 on a laptop ?  I'm having a couple of issues.....
[06:03] <nickrud> do the sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser, and create one
[06:04] <dooglus> it used to, but somehow got deleted.  I'd report it as a bug, but I've no idea how it got deleted, so it's not much use.
[06:04] <joshua> dmesg | grep bttv no output from that command
[06:04] <dooglus> nickrud: I did.
[06:04] <dooglus> nickrud: and that worked - thanks
[06:04] <Goldfisch> joshua: I found this stack of bttv parameters. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6779
[06:05] <Goldfisch> joshua: To get my card properly recognized, I have an /etc/modprobe.d/bttv file containing "options bttv card=78 tuner=2" These options are used when doing "modprobe bttv" to properly configure it.
[06:06] <joshua> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6778 did you see this....?
[06:06] <Goldfisch> joshua: I got this from my machine.
[06:07] <Agamotto> I would stick around, but I need to take my eyeballs out
[06:07] <Agamotto> Chat with you all later
[06:07] <Goldfisch> joshua: Yes, and I said excellent, because it showed that the modules had loaded.
[06:07] <Goldfisch> joshua: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6780
[06:08] <Goldfisch> joshua: Also, /etc/modules has a line with "bttv" in it, so at boot time, it knows to load that module automatically.
[06:08] <joshua> way over my head
[06:09] <Goldfisch> joshua: What model TV tuner do you have? I had to search to figure out which card I card and figure out the tuner setting. That is the only way. Simple research.
[06:09] <joshua> aitech wavewatcher pci
[06:10] <joshua> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6780 should i copy this into something?
[06:10] <joshua> changing what i find in research
[06:10] <joshua> ?
[06:10] <joshisscifi> can anyone help me with getting java sdk up and going with an IDE as well to program with?
[06:10] <sethk> joshisscifi, use eclipse
[06:11] <anavim> does anyone know the name of the ubuntu base networking lib?
[06:11] <joshisscifi> sethk: ok, I have a bunch of listings for eclipse in Adept now, which do I need to install?
[06:11] <joshua> by the by Goldfisch are you a Turner?
[06:11] <joshisscifi> eclipse-jdt?
[06:11] <sethk> joshisscifi, I don't know, I never installed it that way.  I would probably just install them all rather than worrying about which I need
[06:11] <Goldfisch> http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/BTTV.html says "AITech WaveWatcher TV-PCI = can be LR26 (Bt848) or LR50 (BT878)"
[06:12] <crouton> how do you take care of spaces within a command? e.g. scp user@host:file with spaces
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> crouton,  try single quotes
[06:12] <nickrud> crouton, correct placement of quote marks
[06:12] <crouton> Dr_Willis, where exactly? i've tried a lot.
[06:12] <Goldfisch> ...and "card=8 - Lifeview FlyVideo II (Bt848) LR26" according to my bttv spec listings.
[06:13] <Goldfisch> joshua: So create a file called /etc/modprobe.d/bttv with one line "options bttv card=8"
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> scp 'user@host:foo bar' would be my guess
[06:13] <crouton> hmm. don't think so
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> scp "'user@host:foo bar'"
[06:13] <Goldfisch> joshua: Then, "sudo rmmod bttv" and then "sudo modprobe bttv" again.
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> with a " and a ; :)
[06:13] <joshua> eeeee how do I do that? Im a total newb ...... create the file?
[06:13] <nickrud> ortner, scp user@host:"foo bar" ?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> oops a " and a '
[06:13] <Goldfisch> To handle spaces, escape them with a backslash.
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> Goldfisch,  good answer.. :P
[06:14] <nickrud> argh
[06:14] <egkamp> how about something like scp user@host:foo\ bar
[06:14] <joshisscifi> has anyone had problems installing the cisco vpn client in ubuntu?
[06:14] <Goldfisch> egkamp: ;)
[06:14] <nickrud> Goldfisch, wins
[06:14] <crouton> ok, backslash i hadn't though of
[06:14] <Goldfisch> An unfortunate skill one must learn when mounting legacy Windows system, filled with space-laden files.
[06:15] <crouton> hmm
[06:15] <nickrud> who cares where the winning hand comes from :)
[06:15] <Goldfisch> I like OpenVPN. Set it up on my ubuntu laptop, and my home server in no time.
[06:15] <spect3r> !azureus
[06:15] <ubotu> somebody said azureus was a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[06:15] <cappicard> good evening all. I have tried to install Breezy Badger, but after I run the installation, I keep getting "cannot find /sbin/init" when attempting to boot into it after installation.
[06:15] <joshisscifi> Goldfisch: but will the client connect to a cisco vpn server?
[06:15] <Goldfisch> Oh, well...my guess is that they are probably IPsec based, which openvpn is not for.
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> cappicard,  yopu are saying the isntall worked? or is the installer the thing giving the error?
[06:16] <Contamination> Anyone think they can help me with a 5.10 install on a iMac?
[06:16] <Goldfisch> joshua: You are going to have to learn how to edit text files, whether through vi, emacs, nano, gedit, or something. I can't walk you through editing files.
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  :P what part do you need help with?
[06:16] <cappicard> well, the installer completes, it's when I  try to reboot my system to go into Ubuntu
[06:16] <Contamination> Dr_Willis: X says it all
[06:17] <irc> i pretty much figured out how to do it I just can't get sudo authority in the gui
[06:17] <cappicard> also, I can't get it to install grub. I have hda and hdb. I boot from hda's MBR normally
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  Huh? :P
[06:17] <cappicard> so I have to resort to LILO
[06:17] <Contamination> Complete sluggish performance to a near halt when X window system loads.
[06:17] <chet--> is wpa_sup installed with dapper? i see some on the forums saying wpa worked out of the box?
[06:17] <chet--> but i dont see it
[06:17] <crouton> oy. double quotations *and* backslashes.
[06:17] <Goldfisch> Isn't gksu the GNOME tool to gui-wrap sudi?
[06:18] <Madpilot> Goldfisch: gksudo
[06:19] <kameron> madpilot, why wouldn't you just sudo command, instead of gksudo command? what's the diff?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  odd.. what your specs on the imac?
[06:19] <Contamination> 500MHZ 640MB RAM G3
[06:19] <irc> my gui wont give me root permission to save file in /etc/modprobe.d/bttv
[06:19] <Madpilot> kameron: to run GUI stuff, gksudo is recommended - I can't remember the technical details, though
[06:19] <kameron> eh
[06:19] <Contamination> When I cancel X from loading during boot time everything flies until it starts up Gnome which needs X
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  I got an iMAC DV - with  like 256mb. and it ran 'ok' on mine..  not sure what the cpu is.. (500mhz i think)
[06:20] <nickrud> irc, gksudo gedit, if you do it that way: and sudo cp <file> <file> otherwise
[06:20] <garry> irc, from terminal sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/bttv
[06:20] <smog> d
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  may want to check the ubuntu wiki/forums - there maybe a mac support section.
[06:20] <Contamination> Dr_Willis: I did and they all could not find the solution :)
[06:20] <malubankudi> hey
[06:21] <smog> Can anybody recommend a good firewall for ubuntu?
[06:21] <malubankudi> how do i get ubuntu to read my second HD set as master
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  heh - do like I did.. put osx back on (or os9) and use it  for a SSH box. :P
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  i had other 'issues' with ubuntu on my imacDv
[06:21] <nickrud> smog, shorewall is the one supported by ubuntu, and firestarter is the easiest one.
[06:22] <malubankudi> how do i get ubuntu to read my second HD set as master
[06:22] <Contamination> Dr_Willis: So basically you know nothing about the problems with X on the iMac for the 5.10 dist?
[06:22] <smog> Should I do a get apt for shorewall?
[06:22] <amicrawler> ok thanx guy for the info
[06:22] <nickrud> smog, probably firestarter would be better. It works very well
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  I had no issues with it.
[06:22] <malubankudi> how do i get ubuntu to read my second HD set as master
[06:22] <amicrawler> one more thing
[06:23] <garry> malubankudi, If a hard drive is secondary, it can never be considered as master.
[06:23] <Contamination> Dr_Willis, what dist is installed on that iMac?
[06:23] <DShepherd> what;s the difference between abiword and abiword-gnome
[06:23] <DShepherd> ?
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  the issues i had was with a off set on the Monitor.
[06:23] <amicrawler> how do i get all the things added to my menus in kde or gnome
[06:23] <tim__> i am trying to install opera Unpacking replacement opera ...
[06:23] <tim__> Setting up opera (8.51-20051114.5) ...
[06:23] <tim__>  then it returns me to the prompt but i dont see opera in any menus
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  i think it was 5.10 i had on it a few mo ago.. Its back to OSx now.
[06:23] <smog> What's the command to install software?
[06:23] <smog> get something
[06:23] <amicrawler> apt-get
[06:23] <smog> thanks
[06:23] <irc> wow that was counter intiuitive but neat
[06:23] <amicrawler> sudo apt-get install
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> tim__,  try typing 'opera' ?
[06:24] <Contamination> Dr_Willis: Alright and how did you correct this off set on the monitor?
[06:24] <garry> or use /system/administration/synaptec
[06:24] <cappicard> ah... found the howto on how to install from the knoppix live CD
[06:24] <amicrawler> knoppix i tryed allready
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  I dident.. it was a real PAIN.. aparently the 'fix' was to boot to OS-X and use its tools to adjust the monitor.. well i had no dualbooting. so i couldent fix it from within linuix
[06:24] <amicrawler> not mipressed
[06:24] <joshisscifi> why does kubuntu not come with synaptec?
[06:24] <Goldfisch> joshua: I saved that BTTV information here ---> https://scifi.homelinux.net/mediawiki/index.php/BTTV <-- contains a link to a BTTV howto, along with card options.
[06:24] <tim__> ok that worked do i have to do that everytime i want to run it?
[06:25] <Contamination> Dr_Willis: Alright thanks anyway
[06:25] <alesco> aimcrawler, go to Applications, System Tools, the select Applications Menu Editor
[06:25] <amicrawler> so how do i get all the multivers app add to my gome menus?
[06:25] <irc> you rock gold i got the file saved could it work now?
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  yea over all - i was not impressed much with it on the imac.. but my imac is a old box now a days.
[06:25] <Madpilot> tim__: opera doesn't add itself to the menus automatically, but see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser for how to get it there
[06:25] <nickrud> amicrawler, install menu-xdg, it will add a debian submenu, with most everything
[06:25] <Goldfisch> irc: Uh...are you joshua?
[06:25] <alesco> smog, try synaptic package manager.  Its a gui front end for apt-get
[06:25] <garry> The Kubuntu analog for synaptec is adept
[06:26] <irc> yes
[06:26] <Contamination> Dr_Willis: Yes it is but I prefer to bring back some life into it by running ubuntu.
[06:26] <joshisscifi> garry: thanks
[06:26] <spect3r> !totem
[06:26] <ubotu> spect3r: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:26] <garry> joshisscifi welcome
[06:26] <irc> my system crashed when i opened xawtv
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> Contamination,  yea.  I got several linxu box's so i jsut got the imac in the corner and use it as a ssh to the linux box machine. (or vnc)
[06:26] <Goldfisch> irc: Okay..."sudo rmmod bttv" followed by "lsmod | grep bttv" (proving it is removed), and finally "modprobe bttv".
[06:26] <spect3r> !totem-plugin
[06:26] <ubotu> spect3r: No idea
[06:26] <Goldfisch> irc: Don't forget sudo on those rmmod/modprobe commands. :)
[06:27] <amicrawler> how to ?
[06:27] <amicrawler> menu-xdg
[06:28] <amicrawler> i got the nvidia drivers working cudos to the help
[06:28] <smog> What do you have to do to enable ssh access on a ubuntu machine?
[06:28] <Xenguy> smog: install and configure ;-)
[06:28] <nickrud> amicrawler, sudo apt-get install menu-xdg (or use synaptic)
[06:28] <amicrawler> k
[06:29] <smog> is ssh in apt-get?
[06:29] <Xenguy> smog: apt-get will fetch ssh
[06:29] <amicrawler> all redy installed
[06:29] <Xenguy> apt-get install ssh
[06:29] <irc> it says error module bttv does not exist in /proc/modules
[06:29] <smog> ok thanks
[06:29] <alesco> smog, apt-get install ssh
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> the ssh server is called somthing else isent  it..
[06:30] <HappyFool> ssh or openssh ?
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> ssh is the client. (or am i confused)
[06:30] <Xenguy> Dr_Willis: dependencies get pulled in IIRC
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Xenguy,  i dident think the client puilled the server.
[06:30] <Goldfisch> irc: After which command?
[06:30] <malubankudi> how do i get ubuntu to read my second HD set as master
[06:30] <alesco> I just tried it and it installes openssh server
[06:30] <Xenguy> Dr_Willis: maybe it's the other way around
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> Xenguy,  yea i think so that mazkes more sence
[06:31] <irc> sudo rmod bttv
[06:31] <HappyFool> you can install openssh-client to get the client only; ssh is a metapackage
[06:31] <malubankudi> how do i get ubuntu to read my second hd as the slave
[06:31] <irc> sudo rmmod bttv
[06:32] <Goldfisch> irc: "lsmod | grep bttv" is your check if the module is loaded. If it isn't loaded, then there is no use for trying to remove it (rmmod). Press on the next step.
[06:32] <spect3r> !gstreamer
[06:32] <ubotu> Not a clue, spect3r
[06:32] <irc> next step had no return info from system, proceed?
[06:33] <smog> After you install ssh how do you configure it
[06:33] <malubankudi> Hod do i get ubuntu to read my second hd set as slave
[06:33] <Goldfisch> irc: Yep. The goal is to try and reload the kernel module with those new bttv options.
[06:33] <HappyFool> !tell smog about ssh
[06:34] <malubankudi> how do i get ubuntu to read my second hd set as slave
[06:34] <HappyFool> malubankudi: please don't repeat yourself
[06:34] <Madpilot> !tell malubankudi about mount
[06:34] <irc> ok i did modprobe bttv got errors
[06:34] <Goldfisch> irc: sudo?
[06:34] <tim__> ok i got it, thanks madpilot. are all applications this hard to install, i mean it seems like there was a lot of steps that i had to do manually are all the aplications like this?
[06:35] <irc> now as sudo got no feedback from system
[06:35] <Goldfisch> irc: Okay, sounds good. "dmesg | grep bttv"
[06:35] <yancheng> 1 is stdout, 2 is stderr, may i noe how about 3??
[06:35] <ubuntu> d
[06:35] <ubuntu> ls
[06:36] <irc> says it's loaded
[06:36] <kairu0> can i change my downloading directory in Bittorrent official to another without losing my incomplete download?
[06:36] <ubuntu> out
[06:36] <spect3r> i've incountered a bit of a problem when trying to compile something fomr source... it get an error saying
[06:36] <spect3r> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[06:36] <paulproteus|lapt> kairu0: Yes.  Simply stop the torrent, move the partially-downloaded file, and restart the torrent.
[06:36] <Goldfisch> irc: Can you send me some pastebin of that dmesg command?
[06:37] <paulproteus|lapt> spect3r: Install the package called 'build-essential'.
[06:37] <spect3r> k will try
[06:37] <irc> sure
[06:37] <spect3r> thanks
[06:37] <irc> please excuse name of computer
[06:37] <docsquale> what imap server do people recommend for a simple server with 1-2 users?  I've been trying installation and configuration of cyrus, courier, and it's not been a good experience.
[06:38] <irc> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6781
[06:38] <TuxOtaku> does anyone here know much about cedega?
[06:38] <kairu0> paulproteus|lapt, cool thnkx
[06:38] <nickrud> docsquale, dovecot is pretty easy
[06:38] <HappyFool> yancheng: i don't think there is a default file (or stream?) connected to fid 3. I'd guess the first 'fopen' call in a program would return 3
[06:38] <docsquale> is dovecot in the package manager?
[06:38] <nickrud> yeah, it's in main
[06:39] <irc> i think my tv card might be a zoran chipset?
[06:39] <irc> should i try tvtime?
[06:39] <docsquale> thanks.  oh one last thing, I want to only run it in ssl mode.  I'm assuming dovecot supports that?
[06:39] <spect3r> thanks paulproteus|lapt that seems to have fixed my problem, now more problems i must try and fix :D
[06:39] <drcode> hi all
[06:40] <nickrud> docsquale, yes, take a look at /etc/dovecot.conf
[06:40] <drcode> any one know ssh deamond for port forward in linx?
[06:40] <paulproteus|lapt> spect3r: Good. (-;
[06:40] <Goldfisch> irc: Not sure. I am wondering if we still have to figure out your tuner parameter. Check if you have any video devices "ls -l /dev/video*"
[06:40] <paulproteus|lapt> drcode: openssh-server
[06:40] <docsquale> nick, thanks will try installation now.
[06:40] <garry> Cedega, last I heard, don't like ubuntu vry well, but they might have fixed it. It doesn't run all that many games, I tried the trial. It did not work like the readme said it was supposed to.
[06:40] <irc> k
[06:40] <drcode> I rund openssh-server
[06:40] <drcode> I mean the client side
[06:40] <irc> ls -l /dev/video*
[06:41] <irc> yes it came back video0
[06:41] <drcode> I use ssh to get port forward , but is there ssh client damon?
[06:41] <irc> crw-rw----  1 root video 81, 0 2006-01-07 22:54 /dev/video0
[06:41] <yancheng> HappyFool: thanks
[06:41] <drcode> or I need to put & at ssh?
[06:41] <nickrud> docsquale, I use dovecot, but I only experimented with dovecot in ssl, I have it listening local only
[06:41] <yancheng> yccheok@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ ls 2>/dev/null 1>&2
[06:41] <yancheng> yccheok@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ ls 1>&2 2>/dev/null
[06:41] <yancheng> 12-~1.MP3  ecos-install.tcl  music.mp3.part
[06:41] <yancheng> may i noe for the first command, is 1>&2 always be executed first?
[06:42] <Goldfisch> irc: That is your device file to try out. Yeah, looks correct. You can try your tv app, passing it that device file. Send me your model again. I am worried we don't have it all yet.
[06:42] <irc> aitech wavewatcher
[06:42] <yancheng> for the second command, why 2>/dev/null is executed before 1>&2?
[06:43] <wotnarg> yancheng: its first on the arguement list...
[06:43] <irc> no signal ;(
[06:43] <CookieNinja> and ... if that desperate for windows games, run them on windows
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> CookieNinja,  bah! spend the $$ on books that teach you how to make your own games.
[06:43] <dooglus> 1>&2 redirects errors to where the output is going.  so you do it after redirecting the output
[06:43] <Dr_Fate> how do I get rid of this Debian sub-menu?
[06:43] <Sapentis> Does anyone use dialup?
[06:43] <CookieNinja> $ Dr_Willis .... bah! i live in the uk, it's  :P
[06:43] <yancheng> wotnarg : ls 2>/dev/null 1>&2, do u mean 1>&2 is the first on the arguement list?
[06:43] <nickrud> Dr_Fate, remove menu-xdg
[06:43] <garry> I use dialup, when I'm working on somone elses computer.
[06:44] <Dr_Willis> Dr_Fate,  liol.. someone was just asking how to get it installed earlier.
[06:44] <Madpilot> Dr_Fate: right-click on the menu, choose Edit Menu - how did it get there, anyway?
[06:44] <Dr_Fate> lol
[06:44] <Sapentis> garry, I mean yours. :p
[06:44] <irc> said cannot open capture device
[06:44] <wotnarg> yancheng: Ok, explain again what you are asking?
[06:44] <irc> video0
[06:44] <Dr_Fate> thanks nickrud
[06:44] <docsquale> nickrud: what's the easiest way to generate needed SSL files (cert?) for the dovecot server?  I used to do it via a makefile in Mandrake...
[06:44] <Dr_Fate> dialup?
[06:44] <Sapentis> I'm getting dialup, trying to find a way of getting it to run at more than 5.6k =D
[06:44] <garry>  Sapentis Yeah, sorry bout that.
[06:44] <Dr_Fate> seriously?
[06:44] <Goldfisch> irc: Are you US-based (NTSC) television?
[06:44] <irc> yes
[06:45] <Sapentis> Dr_Fate, well in Nigeria not alot of options are available to teh common geek.
[06:45] <Goldfisch> irc: Try editing /etc/modprobe.d/bttv and appending "tuner=2" to the end of your options. Retry unloading/loading the bttv module again.
[06:45] <nickrud> docsquale, you got me. I did some wacko fako stuff for my exeriments
[06:45] <docsquale> nickrud: LOL
[06:45] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Dapper man Dapper
[06:45] <yancheng> wotnarg: okie. for the command ls 2>/dev/null 1>&2, why stdout is redirect to stderr first, then only stderr is redirect to /dev/null?
[06:45] <CookieNinja> gosh, i forget some ppl still rely on dialup :s *donates money to any charity or business trying to give such ppl broadband*
[06:46] <yancheng> wotnarg: not the reverse?
[06:46] <wotnarg> yancheng: Hrm...
[06:46] <nickrud> docsquale, if it's only on one computer, just have it listen locally. Then you don't need ssl for the connections.
[06:46] <docsquale> it's one machine on the home network, but I need access from school back to home, thus the ssl
[06:46] <Dr_Fate> Sapentis, ouch, my bad;)
[06:46] <TuxOtaku> CookieNinja...Darwinia is on Linux now?! O_o
[06:46] <dooglus> yancheng: the redirections are executed left to right
[06:46] <nickrud> ah.
[06:46] <Sapentis> Dr_Fate, not a problem.
[06:46] <Mr_Molez> i need help kernel 2.6.14 does not find my cdrom drive, it doesnt have any device nodes
[06:47] <joshisscifi> can anyone recommend an IDE other than eclipse... I'd like one that will do intelligent coloring of the various parts of the source code while typing
[06:47] <wotnarg> yancheng: I don't know :/ Can you not just do ls 2>/dev/null >/dev/null?
[06:47] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/01/04/167235&from=rss
[06:47] <irc> "tuner=2" is exact syntaxt?
[06:47] <dooglus> yancheng: compare:
[06:47] <matthew_w> Hey - what repository do I have to add to get wmcodecs and msfonts?
[06:47] <dooglus> (echo this is output; echo this is error 1>&2) > /dev/null 2>&1
[06:47] <dooglus> (echo this is output; echo this is error 1>&2) 2>&1 > /dev/null
[06:47] <dooglus> yancheng: they produce different results
[06:48] <CookieNinja> TuxOtaku, i thought it was out on windows, linux and mac at the same time
[06:48] <ecarroll> I just created a chroot with debchroot, and a bind mounted proc and dev, anyone have an idea of how i would login to it?
[06:48] <CookieNinja> i could be wrong, TuxOtaku, as i found out about it via a linux mag
[06:48] <dooglus> ecarroll: you would just run "dchroot"
[06:48] <Dave|id> hey, can someone tell me why version.h is missing for etc/src/linuxxxx/include
[06:48] <TuxOtaku> really? damn. i love that game...i'm gonna go do some googling
[06:48] <Dave|id> how does one get the version.h file there
[06:49] <matthew_w> I know before it was "marillat" ... now I'm not so sure.
[06:49] <CookieNinja> TuxOtaku, ... http://www.darwinia.co.uk/
[06:49] <TuxOtaku> i wonder if uplink is available on linux too....
[06:49] <matthew_w> Breezy screwed some things up.
[06:49] <Dave|id> need it for compiling
[06:49] <CookieNinja> there's a demo on their site to try if u not played it, TuxOtaku
[06:49] <nickrud> docsquale, I used this: /usr/share/doc/openssl/doc/HOWTO/certificates.txt.gz
[06:49] <Dave|id> make include/version.h doesn't do much
[06:50] <Dave|id> make: *** No rule to make target `include/version.h'.
[06:50] <alesco> anyone using Breezy on a laptop ?
[06:50] <joshisscifi> alesco: yes
[06:50] <crimsun> Dave|id: install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:50] <TuxOtaku> yeah, i used to have it on windoze, CookieNinja
[06:50] <irc> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6782 bttv file looks like this
[06:50] <alesco> joshisscifi, Have you got the wireless working ?
[06:50] <ecarroll> dooglus: Thanks a ton
[06:51] <docsquale> nickrud, thanks, I'll have to read that when I'm not as sleepy as I am now.  Looks helpful.
[06:51] <joshisscifi> alesco: yes lol
[06:51] <Dave|id> sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc-3.4 linux-source-2.6.12 and also sudo apt-get install linux-headers-686
[06:51] <Dave|id> have been done
[06:51] <joshisscifi> alesco: after much cussing at it
[06:51] <CookieNinja> uplink seems to be available too, TuxOtaku
[06:51] <nickrud> docsquale, it tells you how to make your own certificate, that you can use with dovecot
[06:51] <kairu0> help! i cannot type in any java apps (in firefox)!
[06:51] <alesco> I'm having so many issues as well.  I downloaded the source from intel and still not luck.
[06:51] <Goldfisch> irc: It should all be one line: options bttv card=8 tuner=2
[06:51] <TuxOtaku> sweet...too bad it's not GPL'd
[06:52] <docsquale> nickrud, thanks.  dovecot is giving me grief starting, thinking the port is in use... not sure how/where...
[06:52] <irc> done
[06:52] <irc> next?
[06:52] <alesco> joshisscifi:  Only other wierd thing is when I plug in a usb mouse, the network goes down.
[06:52] <joshisscifi> alesco: that I have no idea about
[06:53] <CookieNinja> TuxOtaku, games are still very much something u gotta pay for :P i certainly didnt mind paying for UT2004 anyway .. and now i got a mod that gives u a game that looks like a 3d alienbreed from amiga days (not played it yet tho)
[06:53] <nickrud> docsquale, do you have some other imap running
[06:53] <nickrud> docsquale, sudo netstat -tlp is useful
[06:53] <Goldfisch> irc: unload/reload modules and get the output just like last time.
[06:53] <alesco> joshisscifi:  what wireless card do you have ?
[06:53] <Dave|id> so even with the headers installed i still have no version.h file
[06:53] <adtherat> Hmm.. updated, finally and now I seem to lost my background.
[06:53] <irc> i guessed that wanted to be sure,
[06:53] <joshisscifi> alesco: dell wireless 1470
[06:53] <docsquale> nickrud, not that I can find.  However, I have gone though 2 installations of various cyrus and one of another flavor (can't recall the name), so there's likely residual cruft around somewhere.   may need to reboot
[06:54] <dooglus> can you set GNOME up so you don't have to click on windows to be able to type in them?
[06:54] <dooglus> I want to be able to just point with the mouse
[06:54] <DanglyBits> anyone here running enlightenment?
[06:54] <nickrud> docsquale, try the netstat, then ps -aux ; that should show any running processes that might be on that port
[06:55] <CookieNinja> yes, dooglus, goto system -> preferences -> windows ... oddly enough :P
[06:55] <Madpilot> dooglus: I think so - try System-Prefs-windows
[06:55] <Dave|id> crimsun: linux-headers-2.6.12-9-686 is already the newest version.
[06:55] <irc> ok did the commands will try tvtime again
[06:55] <irc> no errors
[06:55] <_jahshua-> can someone please give me the link for ubuntu source o matic
[06:55] <adtherat> Being fairly new to Ubuntu and Linux in general, I'm not even sure where to start looking. History: I've just upgraded from hoary to breezy and rebooted.
[06:55] <docsquale> nickrud, I can't find anything on 993 (or 143?).
[06:55] <Madpilot> !sources
[06:55] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:55] <Goldfisch> irc: Send me the dmesg | grep bttv output again.
[06:55] <Madpilot> !easysource
[06:55] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:56] <crimsun> Dave|id: what are you attempting?
[06:56] <irc> ok still cant open capture device
[06:56] <alesco> joshisscifi:  I'm using a toshiba with a built in intel ipw2200,  still trying to get it working though.  thanks.
[06:56] <_jahshua-> Madpilot: thanks
[06:56] <DanglyBits> anyone here running enlightenment for a windows manager?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> DanglyBits,  :P Ugh. lol
[06:56] <CookieNinja> adjacent, i would recommend that you just keep getting used to what applications you need to do stuff and forget about diving in deeper for now, except when you have to
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> DanglyBits,  people seem to try out Enlightment.. but rarely 'use' it.
[06:56] <dylan_> how do i further secure my ubuntu linux machine?
[06:56] <Madpilot> _jahshua-: np - just for future reference, you can always pm the bot: /msg ubotu <whatever>
[06:56] <joshisscifi> alesco: there are lots of topics on the ipw2200 on various forums, just google "ipw2200 on ubuntu" and you'll get tons
[06:56] <Goldfisch> irc: BTW, I added another external link to my BTTV article, which points to a German web page. It has tons of pictures of all the Brooktree cards, including information. Takes a while to load, though.
[06:57] <CarlFK> dylan_: turn it off ;)
[06:57] <irc> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6783
[06:57] <alesco> joshisscifi:  Thanks.  I'm now off to google....
[06:57] <dooglus> Madpilot: I can't find it.  Are you sure it's on preferences?
[06:57] <CarlFK> dylan_: ubuntu is very secure by default.
[06:57] <Madpilot> dylan_: you could always run Bastille on it...
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> dylan_,   depends on what you want to do with it I guess..  what you are paranoid about.
[06:57] <polpak> dylan_: in what ways do you imagine yourself to be vulnerable?
[06:57] <adtherat> Looking at my Desktop Background Preference, it shows two Wallpaper, and says "PNG image, 0 pixels x 0 pixels"
[06:57] <irc> is that link on the wiki
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Is bastille still around? heh - havent heard about that in ages
[06:57] <Goldfisch> irc: Yes.
[06:57] <nickrud> docsquale, we're getting into rarified air for me. I'm not much of a network listening type app expert
[06:57] <irc> so aitech is brooktree not zoran?
[06:57] <Dave|id> crimsun: getting High Definition Audio (HDA) with the Realtek ALC 880 chipset working in 5.10.    it happens when i run /configure --with-oss=yes --with-cards=hda-intel --with-kernel=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686/         it comes back saying version.h is not there, even though everything else in the folder looks fine
[06:58] <Madpilot> dooglus: System-Prefs-Windows - top check box is "Select windows when mouse rolls over them"
[06:58] <docsquale> nickrud,  ok, no worries. will shutdown and reboot in the morning and investigate with clearer eyes.  thanks
[06:58] <dooglus> Madpilot: look: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/prefs.png
[06:58] <CookieNinja> also, adjacent, open synaptic and click on the sections button so that you can browse what programs you can download according to sections like music/multimedia etc ... that might help you stumble across useful programs
[06:58] <Goldfisch> irc: Brooktree is a basic chip design. Yes, you have a Zoran brand, brooktree based card.
[06:58] <Madpilot> dooglus: are you running Breezy or ???
[06:58] <dooglus> Madpilot: what's the name of the process that runs?
[06:58] <irc> oh I see
[06:58] <dooglus> Madpilot: it's dapper
[06:58] <Goldfisch> irc: Is your user in the "video" group? Type "id", and see if "video" is listed anywhere.
[06:59] <nickrud> docsquale, np, dovecot works well, and, if I remember my experiments, the ssl is pretty straightforward
[06:59] <dooglus> Madpilot: but I can't believe they would have removed it
[06:59] <docsquale> nickrud, cool. thanks.
[06:59] <Madpilot> dooglus: edit your menu, I think they've hidden the Windows thing from you
[06:59] <irc> video is listed
[06:59] <ajmitch> dooglus: sadly it is removed, I think
[06:59] <irc> 44
[06:59] <dylan_> polpak, i dont know...someone told me that linux is not secure enough by default
[06:59] <dooglus> is there an optional package I can install to get it back?
[07:00] <polpak> dylan_: that depends on what you run on it
[07:00] <irc> I bought the book Linux Toys 2 for the mythtv project  fedora 4 was unfriendly to all all multimedia
[07:00] <ajmitch> dooglus: not that I know of, I just used gconf-editor to change what I wanted
[07:00] <dooglus> dylan_: do you come here regularly asking exactly the same question over and over again/
[07:00] <Harimwakairi> where's the best place to find themes and so forth?
[07:00] <_jahshua-> whats the command to bring up my sources list in a text editor ?
[07:00] <irc> I really like ubuntu community
[07:00] <Madpilot> dooglus: file a bug about it! :P
[07:00] <crimsun> Dave|id: I'll walk you through the preferred way of doing it.
[07:00] <psusi> CookieNinja, there are no open ports by default
[07:00] <dylan_> dooglus, im hoping for a more accurate answer
[07:00] <Madpilot> !tell Harimwakairi about themes
[07:00] <dylan_> dooglus, ill stop...sry
[07:01] <crimsun> Dave|id: first, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential gcc-3.4 module-assistant
[07:01] <Dave|id> crimsun, ok
[07:01] <polpak> CookieNinja: if you know enough to install/setup a daemon process. You should know enough to set up your firewall rules
[07:01] <CookieNinja> psusi, read what i said .. i said they open like leaks as users install applications that open ports .. as each of those is not updated regular (esp if user is on dialup) there's potential risks, real ones
[07:01] <polpak> CookieNinja: and if you install apache.. Chances  are you want port 80 open
[07:01] <Harimwakairi> Madpilot, is that such a banal question that you have a macro set up?  If so, I apologize.  :)
[07:01] <Dave|id> crimsun, linux-headers-2.6.12-9-686 is already the newest version.
[07:01] <Dave|id> build-essential is already the newest version.
[07:01] <Dave|id> gcc-3.4 is already the newest version.
[07:01] <Dave|id> E: Couldn't find package module-assistant
[07:01] <Madpilot> Harimwakairi: not a macro, just a bot - ubotu
[07:01] <_jahshua-> whats the command to bring up my sources list in a text editor ?
[07:02] <Goldfisch> irc: Go and checkout this file: /etc/modutils/aliases. Try "grep char-major-81 /etc/modutils/aliases"
[07:02] <polpak> Dave|id: don't paste in here pls
[07:02] <polpak> Dave|id: use pastebin
[07:02] <psusi> if you install apache, it's because you WANT port 80 open
[07:02] <Madpilot> _jahshua-: in a terminal: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:02] <iKernel> Why doesn't anybody read the topic?
[07:02] <iKernel> !paste
[07:02] <ubotu> hmm... paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[07:02] <Dave|id> ok
[07:02] <Dave|id> sorry
[07:02] <_jahshua-> Madpilot: thanks
[07:02] <Madpilot> !tell Harimwakairi about ubotu
[07:02] <Dave|id> did not know
[07:02] <crimsun> Dave|id: the universe repository must be enabled.
[07:03] <CookieNinja> psusi, and what happens when a user doesn't update it and that port 80 the user wants open is running an app with a remotely exploitable vuln ?
[07:03] <iKernel> Dave|id: It's alright. All you have to do to prevent confusions like this is read the topic.
[07:03] <psusi> CookieNinja, same thing that happens when the user accidently does a sudo rm -fr /
[07:03] <irc> says no such file
[07:03] <psusi> you shoot yourself in the foot because you're stupid, it is your own fault...
[07:03] <polpak> CookieNinja: you can't protect bad administrators from themselves
[07:03] <Madpilot> CookieNinja: if you install Apache, hopefully you'll undertake to learn some basic security stuff...
[07:04] <dooglus> Madpilot: can you find out what the process is called please?  when you run the 'windows' configuration program, what extra process gets run?
[07:04] <psusi> you chose to open the port... if you chose to open the port, you'd also choose to disable the firewall if it was on by default... ubuntu provides automatic security updates easily enough
[07:04] <Madpilot> dooglus: just a sec
[07:04] <CookieNinja> I just think that a firewall should be on by default and when u install an app it modifies the firewall appropiately
[07:04] <iKernel> psusi: Being stupid isn't one's fault.
[07:04] <dooglus> Madpilot: thanks
[07:04] <polpak> CookieNinja: which is the same as not having the firewall in the first place
[07:04] <psusi> CookieNinja, then the firewall may as well not be there now would it?
[07:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> CookieNinja: And that would make a difference how?
[07:05] <polpak> CookieNinja: so why bother?
[07:05] <Madpilot> dooglus: it looks like it's "gnome-window-pr
[07:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> nlol
[07:05] <psusi> iKernel, that's my point
[07:05] <Dave|id> crimsun, just update and uppgrade now
[07:05] <dooglus> Madpilot: "ps -wwwef | grep gnome-window-pr"
[07:05] <Dave|id> crimsun, will let you know when complete
[07:05] <Goldfisch> Guys, does ubuntu use "modutils" package, or "module-init-tools"?
[07:05] <crimsun> Goldfisch: the latter
 you shoot yourself in the foot because you're stupid, it is your own fault...
[07:05] <ajmitch> CookieNinja: such as https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoC-Firewall ?
[07:05] <psusi> iKernel, ohh... you said it isn't?  what are you on crack?
[07:05] <dooglus> oh, it'll be 'properties', right.  thanks.
[07:05] <Madpilot> dooglus: gnome-window-properties?
[07:06] <ki4ikl> Hi
[07:06] <Dave|id> crimsun, all done
[07:06] <Dave|id> crimsun, next step?
[07:06] <iKernel> psusi: Nope.
[07:06] <psusi> if you shoot yourself in the foot, it is nobody's fault but your own
[07:06] <ki4ikl> um...where can i get a list off all the cams compatible with linux
[07:06] <garry> Too many ways to shoot your foot off its hard to avoid sometimes.
[07:06] <crimsun> Dave|id: module-assistant is now installed, too?
[07:06] <Goldfisch> Darn. I am trying to help irc troubleshoot his video card, but my only video system is debian64. It uses the older system, so I can't get the ubuntu info for him.
[07:06] <Madpilot> dooglus: yes, that's the one - and do file a bug if it's not anywhere in Dapper's menus!
[07:06] <Dave|id> crimsun, yes
[07:06] <crimsun> Dave|id: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.10-3_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i alsa-source_1.0.10-3_all.deb
[07:06] <iKernel> psusi: Being stupid is the result of not paying attention in classes. Not paying attention in classes is the result of friends annoying you.
[07:07] <irc> maybe I can help the search
[07:07] <irc> is Seveas on?
[07:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> http://www.cs.bgu.ac.il/~omri/Humor/shoot.html  <---- the many many ways you can shoot yourself in the foot
[07:07] <dooglus> adtherat: running "gnome-window-properties" from the dapper command line brings up the window.  it's just missing from the menu
[07:07] <psusi> iKernel, no... being uninformed is the result of not paying attention in class... being stupid is not caring enough to bother paying attention in class
[07:07] <garry> iKernel hehe
[07:07] <dooglus> Madpilot: that's what you said 10 minutes ago, right :)
[07:07] <Goldfisch> irc: Ah ha...check /etc/modprobe.d/aliases instead of /etc/modutils/aliases.
[07:07] <iKernel> psusi: hmm k
[07:07] <irc> ok
[07:08] <Goldfisch> Turns out I have both. Probably updated at some point, and left behind distracting relics. :)
[07:08] <iKernel> psusi: Let's inject people with medicene that makes them permantly care.
[07:08] <CookieNinja> ajmitch, indeed, i think that page kinda makes my point for me
[07:08] <ajmitch> CookieNinja: it might be in dapper
[07:08] <CookieNinja> oo, that's good then :-)
[07:08] <psusi> iKernel, why bother? they are entitled to be stupid... I'm busy doing other things and if we did that, who would take out the trash? ;)
[07:08] <irc> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6784
[07:09] <irc> this is what the file looks like
[07:09] <adtherat> dooglus, er, that's not what the problem, I'm having. What I'm having is that the pictures for the background is being displayed as 0 by 0 pixels
[07:09] <_jahshua-> whats the command to get the gpg key for cypherpunk to get codecs and such  ?
[07:09] <irc> im still looking for the photos of the tv cards....i found a picture of my card at the aitech site though
[07:09] <Madpilot> dooglus: yeah, but it needs saying - if they're leaving basic stuff off the Dapper menus for some odd reason, it's a bug! :P
[07:09] <DShepherd> mondi: is esd the default audio thingy for dapper?
[07:10] <iKernel> psusi: k
[07:10] <crimsun> DShepherd: no; it's not the default in Breezy, either.
[07:10] <_jahshua-> !restricted formats
[07:10] <ubotu> [restricted formats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[07:10] <_jahshua-> whats the command to get the gpg key for cypherpunk to get codecs and such  ?
[07:10] <CookieNinja> has esd got anything over alsa ? (assuming i have it right that they do the same job)
[07:11] <crimsun> CookieNinja: esd relies on alsa [or oss/free]  to get the job done.
[07:11] <Goldfisch> irc: I don't know. It appears you have char-major-81, which defines the /dev/video0 device. I'm not sure what to do now.
[07:11] <CookieNinja> ooo ok, so what does it do that's worthwhile, crimsun ?
[07:11] <psusi> iKernel, I just saw on the news tonight that the gov't has decided to force banks to charge higher minimum monthly payments on credit cards because too many people are stupid and only make the minimum payments, which results in them paying huge interest over 40 years
[07:11] <Dave|id> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6785
[07:11] <UncleD> What is the best way to install PHP 5.1.1 on ubuntu?
[07:11] <psusi> you can't legislate people to not be stupid
[07:11] <irc> char-major-81 indicates what to me?
[07:11] <drcode> can I tell ssh client to insert password automticly?
[07:12] <crimsun> Dave|id: ``sudo apt-get -f install''
[07:12] <chet--> does anyone here have wpa2 working?
[07:12] <ki4ikl> can i get a suggestion for a router that will work well with ubuntu?
[07:12] <psusi> drcode, no, but you can set up ssh to authenticate using RSA keypairs instead of passwords, which can happen automatically
[07:12] <crimsun> chet--: I do w/ AES and WPA-PSK
[07:12] <psusi> ki4ikl, any one you like
[07:12] <irc> is that the driver or is bttv the driver?
[07:12] <Goldfisch> irc: look at ls -l /dev/video0. It represents a device file, representing a hook into the kernel. In this case, the bttv kernel module is supposed to link up your TV card to that device file for interaction. Something isn't working.
[07:12] <DShepherd> crimsun: what is?
[07:12] <chet--> crimsun, ipw2200?
[07:13] <_jahshua-> whats the command to get the gpg key for cypherpunk to get codecs and such  ?
[07:13] <drcode> k
[07:13] <drcode> thanx
[07:13] <garry> Saw a sig that said "Don't worry bout stupidity, just remove the warning labels and let the problem take car of itself." Not that I think anyone here is stupid.
[07:13] <crimsun> DShepherd: alsa directly
[07:13] <drcode> I need to make rsa in ssh server?
[07:13] <DShepherd> crimsun: thanks
[07:13] <irc> enter syntax "ls -l /dev/video0" ?
[07:13] <Dave|id> crimsun, Ok that finished fine
[07:13] <crimsun> chet--: driver, yes [2195abg chipset] 
[07:13] <Goldfisch> irc: yeah.
[07:13] <chet--> crimsun, dapper or breezy?
[07:13] <adtherat> looks like I will have to just some odd desktop colours instead of the wallpaper, since there's nothing there for the wallpaper
[07:14] <irc> crw-rw----  1 root video 81, 0 2006-01-07 22:54 /dev/video0
[07:14] <crimsun> chet--: the former, though it works in the latter, too
[07:14] <UncleD> Anyone here familiar with this? http://people.debian.org/~dexter/dists/php5.1/php5.1_5.1.1-0.1~breezy1/
[07:14] <Goldfisch> irc: If you scan that /etc/modprobe.d/aliases, you will find an entry for char-major-81 videodev. char is the "c", and 81 is the major value of /dev/vidoe0.
[07:14] <crimsun> Dave|id: good, now ``sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source''. Choose "yes" for both plugn'play support and debugging symbols, then deselect "all" and choose "hda-intel".
[07:14] <made> hello all..
[07:15] <chet--> crimsun, im just installed dapper flt2, i installed wpa_sup, and i have my config right, i think, is there anything funky you had to do?
[07:15] <irc> Hmmm I read that file and saw that entry
[07:15] <chet--> like in breezy install firmware and other drivers?
[07:15] <ki4ikl> where can i get a list off some cams compatible with v4l?
[07:15] <crimsun> chet--: which AP are you using w/ which firmware version?
[07:15] <ajmitch> chet--: no, but you probably have to use -Dwext rather than -Dipw
[07:15] <chet--> linksys v5, 1.0.3
[07:15] <ajmitch> chet--: what problems are you having?
[07:15] <irc> I would hate to go back to the windows box just for tv
[07:15] <pansonic> is there a "frontpage" equivalent for ubuntu
[07:15] <_jahshua-> anyone know??
[07:16] <_jahshua-> whats the command to get the gpg key for cypherpunk to get codecs and such  ?
[07:16] <made> is anybody up for some troubleshooting of booting ntfs partitions?
[07:16] <DShepherd> does anyone know, if possible, how to take a screenshot of drop down menus from the task bar?
[07:16] <chet--> i had it working in breezy after hefty config work, then updated kernel to 2.6.12-10 and all my work was lost
[07:16] <Goldfisch> irc: You may to do some more homework. I am out of ideas. Besides, I need to check out and get some sleep.
[07:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> made: sure
[07:16] <Dave|id> crimsun, yes, that part is done
[07:16] <irc> ok...
[07:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> made: What's the problem?
[07:16] <crimsun> chet--: I presume you edited /etc/default/wpasupplicant and /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf?
[07:16] <irc> i will read you wiki
[07:16] <chet--> i installed, updates wpa.conf and run the command, but it just says "daemonize", i can then fo into wpa_cli but it looks ofr AP
[07:16] <jared> how do I add a user to the admin group from the terminal?
[07:16] <irc> ty
[07:17] <made> ok.. I'm a complete noob with it comes to ubuntu linux.. and I'm also noobish when it comes to irc.. but anyways..
[07:17] <chet--> crimsun, there are 2? i only changed /etc/wpasupplicant.conf
[07:17] <crimsun> Dave|id: now ``sudo module-assistant a-i alsa-source''
[07:17] <crimsun> chet--: yes, there are
[07:17] <chet--> crimsun- THANKS MAN, ill lok into that now!
[07:17] <made> I installed ubuntu on a primary slave drive to my primary master winxp drive
[07:17] <made> how can I get grub to see the mbr on the winxp prim. master?
[07:18] <_jahshua-> whats the command to get the gpg key for cypherpunk to get codecs and such  ?
[07:18] <crimsun> _jahshua-: aren't instructions given on that web site?
[07:18] <Dave|id> crimsun, yes that is done,
[07:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> made: It should've been auto-detected when you installed... are you sure it's not in the list of options Grub gives you when you boot?
[07:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> made: In my experience, at least, WinXP is reliably detected.
[07:19] <_jahshua-> Crimsun i dont see them, ill keep looking
[07:19] <chet--> crimsun, is this /etc/default/wpa file necessary if i start it manually?
[07:19] <crimsun> Dave|id: now pastebin the output from ``cat /proc/asound/{cards,version}''
[07:19] <_jahshua-> crimsun sorry ignore me
[07:19] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Offtopic
[07:19] <chet--> cause it looks like it only pertasins to deamon
[07:19] <made> in grub it shows 2 different kernel versions of linux. with recovery modes as well.. and memtest86
[07:19] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: how much do you think You have learned since you started to use Linux vs using windows?
[07:19] <crimsun> chet--: no, but it's a Really Good Idea.
[07:19] <chet--> crimsun, yeah, im still starting it by hand for troubleshooting
[07:20] <chet--> looks like i have other issuyes
[07:20] <Dave|id> crimsun, asound is not a directory
[07:20] <made> I concur
[07:20] <crimsun> Dave|id: lsmod|grep ^snd_hda_intel
[07:20] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: Well I have learnt lots.. about Linux :-D
[07:20] <SweetestSavage> Does anyone know how to remove the "HTTP Cache Cleaner" in amaroK?
[07:20] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Nothing about software in general
[07:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> made: Okay, I'll write out a grub meu entry that should work for you...
[07:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> *menu
[07:21] <made> ok.. awesome..
[07:21] <ajmitch> chet--: starting it with debugging on?
[07:21] <made> do you want to post it on #flood?
[07:21] <chet--> sudo wpa_supplicant -B -i eth1 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -D ipw -w -dd
[07:21] <ajmitch> chet--: take out the -B
[07:21] <DShepherd> DaSkreech: hmmm a bit more.. but my knowledge is still limited though.. but its getting there
[07:21] <Dave|id> crimsun, Sorry, i should've told you this earlier. When i try and boot up with the sound card enabled in the bios i get stuck on the startup screen saying " Starting hotplug subsystem"   but when i disable the soundcard in the bios the system boots fine.
[07:21] <DaSkreech> Cool
[07:21] <DShepherd> does anyone know, if possible, how to take a screenshot of drop down menus from the task bar?
[07:22] <crimsun> chet--: don't use -Dipw; use -Dwext
[07:22] <irc> how do I look and see if tv time is looking at the right video card?
[07:22] <Dave|id> crimsun, so currently it is turned off in the bios
[07:22] <chet--> crimsun, thanks, that gave me lots of info, so it will take me a litle while
[07:22] <chet--> crimsun, ok
[07:22] <ajmitch> that too, iirc I said that before..
[07:23] <adtherat> Is there anyone who would know where to start looking at fixing this problem?
[07:23] <crimsun> Dave|id: so you've run into #15031. Reboot now, reenable the sound chipset in BIOS, and continue into Ubuntu.
[07:23] <Dave|id> crimsun, #15031?
[07:24] <crimsun> Dave|id: the bugzilla bug I was tracking for Breezy.
[07:24] <wolfmaniac> mplayer askin for gcc 2.5 where to find it
[07:24] <bobcat> hi everyone... newbie here and cann't seem to get mplayer to play a dvd movie correctly.  I get sound, and a picture, but it is all scrambled.  I followed the ubuntu starter guide with installing the right codecs and stuff.  I did notice in mplayer there is a videio codec family.. what should i set this to?
[07:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> made: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6786
[07:25] <gerald-volt> how do I add a windows xp printer ?
[07:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> made: run 'sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst' and add that in the section with the linux boot entries.
[07:25] <tr011> bobcat, do you have the w32codecs ? also try installing totem-xine makes totem works grate,
[07:25] <Madpilot> gerald-volt: is the printer hooked up to another machine that runs XP?
[07:26] <dooglus> DShepherd: did you find out?
[07:26] <gerald-volt> yessum
[07:26] <chet--> crimsun, just to clarify, i shouldnt need to install any of the other stuff l;ike in breezy (firmware, 80211, driver, etc..
[07:26] <chet--> )?
[07:26] <made> where in that list though. I would guess that it should be somewhere below linux partitions?
[07:26] <bobcat> tr011:  yes i did download the w32codecs
[07:26] <UncleD> Does anyone here use php 5.1.1 on ubuntu???
[07:26] <crimsun> chet--: you don't need to do anything besides edit those two files
[07:26] <tim__> is there a linux partitioning program with a gui?
[07:26] <Madpilot> gerald-volt: ah, OK - you can do that w/ CUPS, I've read, but I've got no idea of details...
[07:26] <dooglus> DShepherd: I do it using an alias called "snap".  I run "sleep 5; snap" or some such.
[07:26] <gerald-volt> k, i'll look it up
[07:26] <gerald-volt> thanks
[07:26] <dooglus> DShepherd: the alias is like this:    alias snap='snap=~/Documents/Screenshot-$(date | sed "s/  */-/g").png; import -window root $snap; echo $snap'
[07:27] <adtherat> ubotu, I don't yet but I plan to when I can use the desktop comfortabley
[07:27] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, adtherat
[07:27] <Dave|id> crimsun, will restart and join back here
[07:27] <gerald-volt> ok
[07:27] <gerald-volt> heard about cups
[07:27] <adtherat> UncleD,  I don't yet but I plan to when I can use the desktop comfortabley
[07:27] <gerald-volt> but I have no idea how you go into the cups http setup without having the admin account
[07:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> made: You can put it anywhere you want, but it'll show up in position relative to the other entries, so somewhere near the top is best.
[07:27] <tr011> bobcat, and also made proves changing the video coden in preferences-> Video ?
[07:27] <wolfmaniac> where to find bison
[07:27] <UncleD> I'm looking for somebody whose installed 5.1.1 PHP on ubuntu..
[07:28] <irc> tvtime configuration anyone??????
[07:28] <dooglus> wolfmaniac: bison is in the standard repositories like everything else
[07:28] <wolfmaniac> gstreamer askin for bison
[07:28] <wolfmaniac> where to get it
[07:28] <made> PuMpErNiCkLe: ok.. Thx.. I'll let you know if that worx.. I'm sure it will.. thx for the expertise
[07:28] <dooglus> wolfmaniac: it's in 'main' - so just "sudo apt-get install bison" or use synaptic
[07:28] <ajmitch> UncleD: what about it?
[07:28] <ajmitch> UncleD: it's the current version in dapper
[07:28] <UncleD> ajmitch: what do you mean by, in the dapper?
[07:29] <bobcat> tr011:  this is weird...  i can play the movie in totem with a clear picture, but not in mplayer with a clear picture
[07:29] <ajmitch> !dapper
[07:29] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[07:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> made: np :)
[07:29] <wolfmaniac> do i have to download it
[07:29] <bobcat> tr011:  don't the applications use the same codecs and stuff
[07:29] <UncleD> ajmitch. Oh i see. How do you feel about the dapper atm in its current state?
[07:29] <_jahshua-> !pastebin
[07:29] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:29] <dooglus> and after the release data, you'll still be using it at your own risk, since "Ubuntu comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law"
[07:30] <ajmitch> UncleD: it works for me, for what I do, but if you're not comfortable fixing a broken system, don't try it yet
[07:30] <UncleD> dooglus: right. Im not worried about that aspect. I just want to know how it currently runs.
[07:30] <UncleD> ajmitch: What aspects of the system are subject to breaking atm? Or have been seen to break.
[07:30] <tr011> bobcat, no, mplayer use it's own codecs... that's why some times you can't see in mplayer stuff that you can't see on totem
[07:30] <_jahshua-> can someone help me out im getting this error constantly when trying to download packages
[07:30] <wolfmaniac> pls tell me where i can find previous version of gcc
[07:30] <_jahshua-> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6787
[07:30] <dooglus> UncleD: I've been running dapper for a few months and have had very few problems with it.
[07:30] <ajmitch> UncleD: I think I've seen the kernel/boot process break, have heard of some X breakage
[07:30] <Eleaf> dooglus, what is different?
[07:31] <UncleD> dooglus: What version are you running?
[07:31] <UncleD> ajmitch: Im just interested in using it for running bind9, lighttpd, php5.1.1 and mysql.
[07:31] <UncleD> I wont even be running x.
[07:31] <dooglus> UncleD: I'm running dapper, as it currently stands.  It's the development version.  What will be 6.04
[07:31] <Dreamglider> anyone know a good dvd to avi ripper ?
[07:31] <wolfmaniac>  pls tell me where i can find previous version of gcc
[07:31] <kameron> anyone want to try out skype with me?
[07:31] <UncleD> dooglus: Perhaps its worth giving a shot then to it?
[07:31] <dooglus> wolfmaniac: discover synaptic
[07:32] <ubuntu> heeey everyone
[07:32] <wolfmaniac> yes discovered it
[07:32] <made> PuMpErNiCkLe: one more question about grub..
[07:32] <UncleD> dooglus: What have you noticed different about dapper
[07:32] <dooglus> wolfmaniac: in the system menu, under 'administration'
[07:32] <_jahshua-> can someone help me out im getting this error constantly when trying to download packages http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6787
[07:32] <ubuntu> does any one knows if there is an ABC manual for ubuntu
[07:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> made: I'm listening.
[07:32] <Sonderblade> is there a way to check which files a package install if you don't have the package installed?
[07:32] <dooglus> wolfmaniac: old gcc versions are there
[07:32] <wolfmaniac> yes i did it
[07:32] <antisepticx> ubuntu package site
[07:32] <tr011> bobcat, i'm not pretty shure, but i guess that totem uses gstream or xine codecs while mplayer uses it's own codecs and paths
[07:32] <made> I noticed the the other lines in menu.1st   had boot on the last line.. should I add that?
[07:32] <UncleD> dooglus: if you did a fresh install of dapper, what are the first few apt packages you'd install?
[07:32] <dooglus> UncleD: it seems to be faster.  there are some tacky graphic 'upgrades'.  um...
[07:32] <wolfmaniac> but mplayer is sayin dat it cannt find it
[07:33] <wolfmaniac> needs 2.95 something
[07:33] <tr011> wolfmaniac, mplayer is in the multiverse repository
[07:33] <dooglus> UncleD: it's got slightly newer versions of almost everything
[07:33] <antisepticx> I think you still need gstream for mp3
[07:33] <Dave|id> crimsun,
[07:33] <Dave|id> crimsun, have rebooted
[07:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> made: No.  (At least, I don't think so...)  Grub doesn't boot WinXP directly, it just loads the WinXP bootloader.
[07:33] <crimsun> Dave|id: ok, so now I need the pastebin results from ``cat /proc/asound/{cards,version}''
[07:33] <ubuntu> thanks
[07:33] <Sonderblade> made: it's menu.lst not menu.1st
[07:33] <dooglus> UncleD: I upgraded hoary to breezy to dapper.  I only ever did one fresh install, and that was a while ago now
[07:34] <antisepticx> anyone know how to boot an iso off of your harddrive unsing grub?
[07:34] <Sonderblade> made: that mistake has screwed up for me many many times
[07:34] <Dreamglider> anyone know a good dvd to avi ripper please
[07:34] <antisepticx> dvd::rip
[07:34] <_jahshua-> can someone help me out im getting this error constantly when trying to download packages http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6787
[07:34] <Dave|id> crimsun, the sound card has been enabled in the bios and it did not freeze this time. have turned the sound up but i still hear nothing
[07:34] <made> PuMpErNiCkLe: the other thing I'm curious about.. how would the bios boot on my slave and not my master?
[07:35] <UncleD> dooglus: where is the download link to dapper? If I already have breezy 5.1.1 on my box, is it easier to download an upgrade?
[07:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> made: Uh... say what? O_o
[07:35] <crimsun> Dave|id: I need ``amixer'' output, too
[07:35] <made> nvm..
[07:35] <Dave|id> crimsun, ok
[07:35] <made> lemme check it.. be back in a few
[07:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> made: The master boot record is still on the master.
[07:35] <UncleD> dooglus: currently I have a totally fresh install of breezy. I want to download dapper (should i get an upgrade or a full package iso?)
[07:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> made: (If that's what you meant.)
[07:36] <made> good good.. but how does it go straight to the slave on boot?
[07:36] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: i wouldnt recommend dapper for a production machine
[07:36] <made> the first thing I see after post is grub
[07:36] <UncleD> john: hmm..
[07:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> made: The BIOS loads teh bootloader, which is on the first section of the primary master.
[07:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> made: In this case, that's Grub.
[07:37] <Dave|id> crimsun, sorry, but what is the command to get the amixer output
[07:37] <tr011> by the way, how recommendable is dapper for a home desktop?
[07:37] <ubuntu> any one known which VPN clinet works with Cisco
[07:37] <UncleD> john: All I really want to do is upgrade to php 5.1.1 and the latest version of mysql - I was just asking the "best" way to do go about doing that.
[07:37] <crimsun> Dave|id: amixer
[07:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> made: And from Grub, you can load any operating system on any disk.
[07:37] <kameron> !dapper
[07:37] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[07:37] <made> ok.. so if I unplug the slave what happens.. cause I haven't tried that yet.. I'm sic of failure
[07:37] <bobcat> ok...  i have one more newbie question...  I have a dvd burner (/dev/hdc) and a regular dvd drive (/dev/hdd).  When I put a movie int the regular dvd drive, I can play the movie with totem.  However, when I put a movie in the dvd burner drive (/dev/hdc), I first a window pop-up asking if i want to burn audio, photo, data cd.. I select cancel.  and it appears by doing that,  totem can't find the dvd to play.  I know the drive is still mo
[07:37] <bobcat> unted, but don't understand why totem isn't picking up the movie.
[07:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> made: Grub will probably spit out an error if you try to boot linux.
[07:38] <UncleD> johndarkhorse: any suggestions?
[07:38] <made> ok..
[07:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> made: WinXP will still boot, though.
[07:38] <made> kool brb..
[07:38] <antisepticx> thats your problem pump.... stop xp from booting and all is well
[07:39] <tr011> antisepticx,  yes! that's right!
[07:39] <Dave|id> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6788
[07:39] <antisepticx> tr011 thanku
[07:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> antisepticx: Uh... why would you want to stop WinXP from booting?
[07:39] <tr011> bobcat, heee... i think that is because totem is looking for the dvd only in one drive and not in both
[07:40] <antisepticx> why would I or why would u
[07:40] <bk> does anyone know an IRC channel for gtk?
[07:40] <crimsun> Dave|id: slick. You need an even newer version. wget http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.10+1.0.11rc2-1_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i alsa-source_1.0.10+1.0.11rc2-1_all.deb
[07:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> antisepticx: Why would you?
[07:40] <irc> try google dude
[07:41] <antisepticx> ah, because I have no use for it
[07:41] <UncleD> dooglus: any ideas?
[07:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> antisepticx: In that case, load (G)Parted and make the partition into /swap :)
[07:41] <Dave|id> crimsun, that is done
[07:42] <antisepticx> lol
[07:42] <crimsun> Dave|id: now ``sudo module-assistant a-i alsa-source'' again
[07:42] <netstar> Hi, I'm finding I am getting bouts of high cpu usage from Xorg and have all drivers and settings from a previous distribution implemented.  What could be causing this?
[07:42] <DShepherd> dooglus: wow.. thats .. something,.. special
[07:43] <antisepticx> I haven't used windows in aleast a year
[07:43] <antisepticx> not that its the worst OS in the world
[07:43] <tr011> i have being hearing about people(and me) with problems with the audio sistem, about that some times one program takes all the control over the audio device, but in my shor experience i have only seen this in debian based distros, there is a way to solve this problem?
[07:43] <antisepticx> kde does that in some distros
[07:44] <bobcat> tr011:  what's weird is when i am totem, and go under movie and open location of the file i want to play, I then enter the /dev/hdc (dvd burner), and it says it fails to find a mount point for the device in /etc/fstab.  However, before I open totem, i am mounting the drive when inserting the dvd in the dvd burner....
[07:44] <netstar> bob_, don't mount it
[07:44] <Dave|id> crimsun, whoa... funky stuff
[07:44] <netstar> bobcat even
[07:44] <crimsun> tr011: ...that's not a distro-based issue but rather interaction between your hardware and ALSA
[07:44] <Dave|id> crimsun, will paste bin.. said something out the sound module qutting
[07:45] <Dave|id> crimsun, volule control has quit unexpectedly
[07:45] <crouton> anybody seen the cdrom 'abortcommand' problem that knows a fix?
[07:45] <crimsun> that's expected.
[07:45] <adtherat> Does anyone have any clue on the problem I have with my wall paper?
[07:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tr011: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[07:45] <tr011> hmmm.. bobcat and have you checked in your fstab that the dvd and the dvd-burner has the same rights?
[07:45] <crimsun> it's forcibly unloading and reloading the sound drivers, so anything using it will die
[07:45] <adtherat> Does anyone have any clue on the problem I have with background*
[07:46] <tr011> PuMpErNiCkLe, thanks
[07:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tr011: np :)
[07:47] <bobcat> tr011:  yep they have the same... it looks like this --> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[07:47] <bobcat> tr0ll:  just the drive name is different for each one
[07:47] <mno> hello
[07:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hey mno
[07:48] <|37th|Trigger[id> Hello all :)
[07:48] <Dave|id> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6789
[07:48] <Techie_dude> where can i get a list of the cams compatible with v4l?????????
[07:48] <|37th|Trigger> I know it's early but i was wondering if there was anyone could help me?
[07:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> |37th|Trigger: What's your problem?
[07:49] <crimsun> Dave|id: pastebin ``dmesg|tail''
[07:49] <irc> should my bttv file indicate anything about /video0 ?
[07:49] <DShepherd> there is abiword and abiword-gnome into the ubuntu packages. What is the difference between the two>?
[07:49] <cyphase> ;)
[07:50] <|37th|Trigger> I'm kind of new to linux.. And whenever i boot up on linux, I just get a pixelated screen (After going through all the processes) was wondering if anyone has experianced this/Knows how to fix it
[07:50] <Techie_dude> how messed up is dapper atm? like is it stable enough for general use?
[07:50] <|37th|Trigger> i use ubutu aswell btw :P
[07:50] <Dave|id> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6790
[07:50] <cyphase> Techie_dude, if you have to ask, don't use it
[07:51] <Techie_dude> okay......do you know a place i can get a list of v4l compatible cameras
[07:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> |37th|Trigger: 1) Is your monitor a CRT? 2) What kind of graphics controller do you have?
[07:51] <|37th|Trigger> pumper
[07:51] <|37th|Trigger> it wont let me pm you :(
[07:51] <|37th|Trigger> Do you have any way other than irc that i can contact you with? I really dislike irc :P
[07:51] <ki4ikl> there
[07:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> |37th|Trigger: Nada, sorry.
[07:52] <|37th|Trigger> hmm
[07:52] <|37th|Trigger> how do i register (so i can pm you)
[07:52] <irc> 37th trigger are you talking to me?
[07:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> |37th|Trigger: /msg nickserv help
[07:52] <Madpilot> irc: that might not be the best nick to use, you know... :P
[07:52] <ki4ikl> Does anyone know where i can get a list of v4l cams????
[07:52] <crimsun> Dave|id: please reboot
[07:52] <Dave|id> crimsun, Ok
[07:53] <|37th|Trigger> hmm
[07:53] <|37th|Trigger> i think i've odne it xD
[07:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> |37th|Trigger: ^_^
[07:53] <|37th|Trigger> w00t
[07:53] <polpak> !patience
[07:53] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[07:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ki4ikl: Does http://www.exploits.org/v4l/ help you at all?
[07:54] <ki4ikl> i will look thanks
[07:54] <ki4ikl> :)
[07:54] <irc> how do change nick again?
[07:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ki4ikl: np :)
[07:54] <cyphase> How to tell the difference betwen Web 1.0 and Web 2.0 - http://mpt.net.nz/archive/2005/12/27/web-2
[07:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> irc: /nick newname
[07:54] <irc> hello
[07:54] <amicrawler> how come in kde the menu get very big and wide how do i shrink it back to default?
[07:54] <irc> doesnt want to workl
[07:54] <irc>  /nick meme
[07:55] <insertnewname> there
[07:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> insertnewname: lol!
[07:55] <insertnewname> nobody does tv here
[07:55] <insertnewname> ?
[07:55] <insertnewname> wouldnt take anything else
[07:55] <RuffianSoldier> Has anyone got SLi to work in Ubuntu?
[07:56] <Dave|id> crimsun, I'm back
[07:56] <alan__> how do you make the firefox download from mozilla executable? which file do you chmod?
[07:57] <Dave|id> crimsun, will pastebin you the output of amixer
[07:57] <crimsun> Dave|id: ok.
[07:58] <ki4ikl> thankyou
[07:59] <netstar> what version of xfce is currently in the ubuntu universe?
[08:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> netstar: Dapper or Breezy?
[08:00] <netstar> Breezy
[08:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> netstar: 4.2.2
[08:02] <netstar> thanks
[08:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> np :)
[08:02] <lostblur> i found a really annoying trait in firefox which only affects linux install. i do adminitrsation of user for a forum of mine. and its user form always seem sto grab MY user name logins and over write them a-la auto complete. has anyone encountered this? is it firefox fault or gnome profile managin or what?
[08:02] <sklav> hwy guya ia thwrw aomewhere else i can get the w32codecs?
[08:02] <sklav> !w32codecs
[08:03] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[08:04] <FlannelKing> anyone know what one has to do to enable external connections from mysql?
[08:04] <Dave|id> crimsun, sorry for the delay, my pci wifi card just dropped out, had to force a dhclient and down it a few times for it to come back up. will pastebin amixer now
[08:04] <DShepherd> anyone can recommend a good program that i can use which will allow me to record my desktop as a movie?
[08:05] <Dave|id> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6792
[08:05] <netstar> PuMpErNiCkLe, how did you find that out?
[08:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> netstar: I just checked in Synaptic.
[08:05] <netstar> ty
[08:07] <crimsun> Dave|id: for i in Surround Center LFE; do amixer sset '$i' on; done
[08:07] <|37th|Trigger> heh
[08:07] <crimsun> Dave|id: then use a mixer like Volume Control to adjust those volumes.
[08:07] <|37th|Trigger> hmm
[08:07] <|37th|Trigger> cant find the last dude who i was just talking too :(
[08:07] <Dave|id> crimsun, i must have missed a message?
[08:07] <crimsun> Dave|id: no, you haven't.
[08:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ^_^
[08:08] <crimsun> Dave|id: I told you what to type into a terminal.
[08:08] <Dave|id> it joh
[08:08] <adtherat> darn that background
[08:08] <Dave|id> unable to fix simple control '$1' ,0
[08:08] <GTroy> !repos
[08:08] <Dave|id> find not fix**
[08:08] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:09] <Techie_dude> , where is a place i can find info about video for linux cams?
[08:09] <Dave|id> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6793
[08:09] <Techie_dude> i lost the link someone in here gave me
[08:09] <eDRoaCH> ive spent about 2 weeks casually trying to install 5.10
[08:11] <eDRoaCH> 2 cd roms (a dvd and a tdk burner), 2 hds (both known good 30 and 40gb wd) and 2 video cards (nvidia 5900 and onboard intel 815) and 3 diff burns (2 of install 1 of live, never have any other trouble burning cds)
[08:11] <eDRoaCH> and i still get package verification errors
[08:11] <ki4ikl> what is the link someone gave me earlier
[08:11] <ki4ikl> i lost it and need it really badh
[08:11] <DShepherd> anyone can recommend a good program that i can use which will allow me to record my desktop as a movie?
[08:12] <ki4ikl> ugh
[08:12] <eDRoaCH> DShepherd: http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/
[08:13] <adtherat> I don't mean to be annoying, but I can't see anyone responding to my query.
[08:13] <eDRoaCH> thats ok, no1 answers mine either
[08:13] <Dave|id> crimsun, i had to go into "Volume Control" > "File" > "Change Device" where there are two options, the first option is "HDA Alsa Intel mixer" and the 2nd option is Realtek ALC880 (OSS Mixer)   I selected option 2 and now i have sound!
[08:13] <crimsun_> Dave|id: sorry, connection problems.
[08:13] <adtherat> I do understand that a problem with the background isn't that important, but when you spend hours at a computer, you do want a good screen to look at.
[08:14] <crimsun_> Dave|id: I forgot to quote the 's
[08:14] <crimsun_> Dave|id: that needs to be for i in Surround Center LFE; do amixer sset \'$i\' on; done
[08:14] <Dave|id> crimsun, i had to go into "Volume Control" > "File" > "Change Device" where there are two options, the first option is "HDA Alsa Intel mixer" and the 2nd option is Realtek ALC880 (OSS Mixer)   I selected option 2 and now i have sound!
[08:14] <Eleaf> Hi
[08:14] <eDRoaCH> well i cant get ubuntu to install, but i cant imagine its that hard to change a background
[08:14] <cyphase> has anyone noticed how a lot of programs are starting to use the the Tomboy web pages design?
[08:14] <cyphase> http://www.beatniksoftware.com/tomboy/
[08:15] <crimsun_> Dave|id: ok, whatever works for you.
[08:15] <eDRoaCH> i think i had an old live cd of ubuntu and it had some hideous red back by default
[08:15] <crimsun_> Dave|id: I'd appreciate the output from amixer regardless
[08:15] <Dave|id> crimsun, yeah i did above, hold on, will find it
[08:15] <Dave|id> Dave|id crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6793
[08:15] <eDRoaCH> changing backgrounds in linux is pretty much the same as windows, r click on desktop and change it
[08:16] <crimsun_> Dave|id: no, not the old amixer values. The new ones after you selected OSS mixer.
[08:16] <Dave|id> crimsun, ok, will do
[08:17] <adtherat> eDRoaCH, I can change the background, what I'm saying is that the background doesn't show up. And it's telling me that a PNG is 0 by 0 pixels
[08:17] <Dave|id> crimsun, so you want me to set the volume control back on alsa and give you amixer?
[08:17] <crimsun_> Dave|id: no, leave the controls as is. Just open a terminal and type amixer
[08:17] <GTroy> anyone know of any 3rd party repositories?
[08:18] <adtherat> All I'm seeing is a solid colour and not the ubutuntu sexy Lagoon
[08:19] <Xahur> Morning
[08:19] <Xahur> My Ubuntu discs just arrived :)
[08:20] <i-node> guys, i'd like to ask if there's any way i can get package CDs for ubuntu- cant download them over the web- max speed down here in the maldives is about 5 kbps :(
[08:20] <Xahur> i-node wait a moment
[08:20] <crimsun_> i-node: shipit.ubuntu.com
[08:20] <Xahur> ^    ^
[08:20] <woodgrain> po po out here, 5-0!
[08:20] <i-node> crimsun_: - just got my 5 cd's :)
[08:20] <i-node> but i cant do the tux-marketing unless i have cool apps to show off :(
[08:21] <woodgrain> crimsun_,  I sed the 5-0 ... po-lice up in this piece.
[08:21] <Xahur> i-node, what do you mean then? The packages from synaptic?
[08:22] <Xahur> Well.. I gotta watch sg1.. Taped it the other day, havent had time to watch it yet..
[08:22] <i-node> yeah...a lot of the packages are for downloading - so i am unable to install 'em...ok, its too early to speak, i havent installed ubuntu fully-frontal- just running 'em on live-cds....but i was thinking- how many packages would the install-cd have *-*
[08:22] <s> can someone help me install this ? http://optusnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/atmelwlandriver/atmelwlandriver-3.4.1.1.tar.bz2
[08:22] <Xahur> well.. i HHD'ed it.. Tapes are no use without a tape recorder..
[08:23] <DiogoSoi> gostaria de saber um canal aqui do estado de mato grosso BRAZIL?
[08:23] <s> (i'm a newbie)
[08:23] <DiogoSoi> alguem pode me informar
[08:23] <Xahur> i-node, about the same as the live.. Im afraid, I dont know of anywhere to order the packages on a cd :(
[08:24] <Xahur> If you know some1 with faster internet, perhaps you could ask if you could bring your computer to their place?
[08:24] <Dave|id> pastebin is running slow? or it just me
[08:24] <crimsun_> Dave|id: just use another pastebin, like pastebin.ca
[08:24] <DiogoSoi> help?
[08:24] <Xahur> Well.. Im gonna be afk for a lil while..
[08:24] <i-node> Xahur: - i have some friends at the local ISP who can do the downloading for me- i was just checking whether if i had another way- anywhos, once i get the CD's i'll download more ubuntu CDs and distribute them around :)
[08:25] <Xahur> DiogoSoi, perhaps if you ask in english, people will understand..
[08:25] <woodgrain> how do I install the newest Tom Ridge?
[08:26] <Xahur> i-node, you should do that :) Ubuntu is a nice system.. I have allready given away 6 of the cd's i got.. Too bad it didnt exactly work perfectly on any of my computers.. Or I would still be using it meself.. Maybe the next release :)
[08:26] <jadewolf> kameron, you still here?
[08:27] <|37th|Trigger> heh
[08:27] <|37th|Trigger> i've got loads of cd's to give to my friends :P
[08:27] <DiogoSoi> so sei falar potuguese brazil
[08:27] <|37th|Trigger> not working too well on my system though.
[08:28] <Xahur> Ubuntu just didnt like my wlan card.. It wanted to turn it off after a few hours..
[08:28] <jadewolf> anyone else here use Nvidia video cards with ubuntu? I did the apt-get install nvidia-glx but I don't seem to have it running when xorg starts up.  xorg.conf as the vesa driver running and was wondering what I should change that too
[08:28] <Xahur> But a heavily modified XP Pro seems to actually work.. I got the laptop free since it was broken.. Boss couldnt get xp pro to work on it after replacing the broken hdd..
[08:29] <McSo> how do i compile a kernel module in ubuntu?
[08:29] <McSo> or how di get the kernel source... is it in the ubuntu cd? if so how do i install it?
[08:30] <Xahur> DiogoSoi, if you want help, I suggest you ask your questions in english, friend..
[08:30] <crimsun_> McSo: you install linux-headers-$(uname -r), gcc-3.4, and build-essential
[08:30] <McSo> can you tell me what to type exactly crimsun_? sorry.. i'm new to linux
[08:30] <Dave|id> crimsun_,
[08:30] <Xahur> Well.. I'm off to the Stargate :)
[08:30] <Dave|id> crimsun_, http://pastebin.ca/36160
[08:30] <Dave|id> crimsun_, they are amixer results from both OSS and HDA Intel
[08:31] <cyphase> there's an NPR podcast episode called "Windows: A Clear Danger to Birds"
[08:31] <cyphase> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5076012&ft=1&f=1007
[08:31] <crimsun_> Dave|id: right, they shouldn't differ, and they don't. The results are as I expected. Thanks.
[08:31] <cyphase> who'll figure it out :P
[08:32] <Dave|id> crimsun_, do you have those instructions on the web anywhere, so when i rebuild this machine i can get my sound working again?
[08:32] <crimsun_> McSo: ``sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential gcc-3.4''
[08:32] <sklav> whats a nice software other than gtkpod to sync my ipod to linux?
[08:32] <crimsun_> Dave|id: I can put them in a factoid
[08:33] <McSo> thanks
[08:33] <McSo> it says it couldn't find package gcc-3.4 ..
[08:34] <cyphase> anyone? :)
[08:35] <Dave|id> crimsun_, if you could that would be fantastic. If you need any specs or anything from my machine just ask. I am more than wlling to help you out with your bugzilla problem
[08:37] <lsuactiafner> am pondering, do anyone know if anybody has been prosecuted in south-africa for sharing copyrighted content like movies before?
[08:37] <crimsun_> McSo: you need to have the main repository enabled.
[08:37] <sklav> cyphase, yes get tinted glasses
[08:37] <McSo> crimsun_: sorry.. how do i do that?
[08:37] <sklav> or play loud music
[08:37] <crimsun_> Dave|id: #15031 has already been resolved.
[08:37] <sklav> that should save the birds
[08:37] <crimsun_> !tell McSo about repos
[08:37] <sklav> ;
[08:37] <sklav> :)
[08:37] <McSo> thanks
[08:37] <Mr_Molez> can some 1 give me a link to the faq to update to dapper
[08:38] <crimsun_> Dave|id: I've placed instructions in the "alsa-source" factoid. /msg ubotu alsa-source
[08:38] <cyphase> sklav, no :)
[08:38] <woodgrain> Mr_Molez, how did that install go earlier?  Get it working?
[08:38] <cyphase> sklav, windows as in the OS
[08:38] <Mr_Molez> nah :(
[08:38] <cyphase> birds as in penguins as in linux
[08:38] <cyphase> :P
[08:39] <bonekracker> Sorry if that has been answered - I'm a noob.   When I use Totem (in browser or stand-alone), it complains: "Totem could not play 'fd://0'.  ... need plugins, etc.
[08:39] <bonekracker> but apt-get says it can't find them
[08:40] <Xahur> "A Penguin A Day Keepsm Windows Away"
[08:40] <sklav> cyphase, i understood that much
[08:40] <Dave|id> crimsun_, Thank you so much for your time and help! if you ever in brisbane i'll buy you a beer
[08:40] <sklav> but the article is genuine
[08:40] <sklav> hehe
[08:40] <crimsun_> Dave|id: np
[08:41] <Mr_Molez> anyone ?
[08:42] <Mr_Molez> argh after falling in love with gentoo its hard to live with a system like this :(
[08:42] <sklav> gentoo?
[08:42] <Mr_Molez> yeh
[08:43] <sklav> i was just compiling it for the last 2 days
[08:43] <Mr_Molez> haha
[08:43] <liable> Mr_Molez: so continue to use gentoo..
[08:43] <sklav> i dont think its that great
[08:43] <McSo> argh
[08:43] <Mr_Molez> liable: i really dont wanna wait days :P
[08:43] <crimsun_> Mr_Molez: sudo sed s/breezy/dapper/ -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:43] <_ldy_> Mr_Molez: gentoo and ubuntu and debian are all linux :P
[08:43] <sklav> 2 days to get X kde and xine working
[08:43] <Mr_Molez> crimsun_: cheers :D
[08:43] <iKernel> Does gentoo even have a package manager?
[08:43] <sklav> and the speed tweaks
[08:43] <evader> Breezy is the current release yes? But what is the next one on its way, the tetsing/unstable one? Is it worth using that at all?
[08:43] <crimsun_> Mr_Molez: and realize that you will be running the development branch. You are responsible for screwing things up.
[08:43] <Mr_Molez> _ldy_: yeh but gentoo uses a nice packaging system so nice and simple
[08:43] <McSo> crimsun_: this requires an internet connection right? I don't have one.. I'm actually trying to install my wireless lancard on ubuntu but i've been uncessful
[08:43] <McSo> unsucessful*
[08:44] <sklav> i like it dont get me wrong but  im a compiling freak
[08:44] <Mr_Molez> crimsun_: yeh i love to live on the edge
[08:44] <crimsun_> McSo: yes
[08:44] <Mr_Molez> gentoo has the best packaging system :D
[08:44] <_ldy_> Mr_Molez: But I did not want to compile and configuration everything handly.
[08:44] <Mr_Molez> anyway ill shut up now before i get kicked :P
[08:44] <sklav> Mr_Molez, im not sure about that freebsd has ports system and its just as good and older
[08:45] <sklav> but what do  i know
[08:45] <sklav> hehe
[08:45] <McSo> crimsun_: would you be able to help me install my hardware?
[08:45] <sklav> i think i had more fun with lfs
[08:45] <sklav> plus 45 minutes to get ubunut running as i wanted
[08:45] <sklav> ;)
[08:46] <Mr_Molez> sklav: once its done, it rulez, never any dependency problems :D
[08:46] <_ldy_> sklav: ubuntu not ubunut :-)
[08:46] <crimsun_> McSo: not likely, as my time here is limited. What hardware is it?
[08:46] <McSo> crimsun_: it's a wireless lan card
[08:46] <sklav> Mr_Molez, im dual booting at the moment
[08:46] <sklav> because i dont want my last 2 days to go in the can
[08:46] <crimsun_> McSo: no, I mean make & model, probably pci id, too
[08:46] <Mr_Molez> sklav: hehe
[08:46] <sklav> all im saying is new systems have their own learning curves
[08:47] <sklav> ive built lfs and the rest
[08:47] <Mr_Molez> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/universe Packages
[08:47] <Mr_Molez> umm
[08:47] <sklav> possibly installed every OS on this planet except for solaris
[08:47] <evader> Aside from Breezy, what are the next releases of ubuntu called? What is the new testing/unstable??? Is it worth using them?
[08:47] <HappyFool> there's probably no dapper-backports
[08:47] <evader> please.
[08:47] <Mez> sdapper backports dont exist yet
[08:47] <crimsun_> Mr_Molez: comment it out. We obviously don't have dapper backports yet.
[08:47] <McSo> crimsun_: NE-WUSB by Netami but when i searched for the driver it lead me to http://optusnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/atmelwlandriver/atmelwlandriver-3.4.1.1.tar.bz2
[08:47] <Mr_Molez> ahh ok
[08:47] <HappyFool> evader: it's called dapper. don't use it (see crimsun's remark earlier)
[08:47] <McSo> crimsun_: so basically i think its an atmel rip off
[08:48] <crimsun_> McSo: have you confirmed that it is indeed the proper driver?
[08:48] <McSo> yes i'm pretty sure
[08:48] <crimsun_> "pretty sure" isn't good enough.
[08:48] <McSo> well all my searches lead me to the same site
[08:49] <McSo> and when i looked up the hardware info in windows of my lan card it also had atmel in the descrption
[08:49] <McSo> descrption*
[08:49] <crimsun_> so download it and unpack it somewhere
[08:49] <McSo> yeah i've done that
[08:49] <Mr_Molez> 177mb oh that aint bad :P
[08:49] <crimsun_> McSo: do you have build-essential, linux-headers-$(uname -r), and gcc-3.4 installed?
[08:50] <s_spiff> hey
[08:50] <Mr_Molez> anyone here play bzflag ?
[08:50] <McSo> all except gcc-3.4 .. i havn't been able to install that
[08:50] <s_spiff>  I just reinstallled Ubuntu, a clean setup
[08:50] <McSo> crimsun_: like that repository thing was useless i think? because i don't have access to the internet
[08:50] <s_spiff>  wanted to know, should I follow something so for making a cleaner file management?
[08:50] <crimsun_> McSo: then you'll have to use your current Internet access to download gcc-3.4 and its dependencies.
[08:51] <s_spiff>  Last time, I found that everything was hosch posch.
[08:51] <s_spiff>  anyone there?
[08:51] <HappyFool> the gcc-3.4 dependencies should be just gcc-3.4-base and cpp-3.4 (i.e., three .deb files to download)
[08:51] <johndarkhorse> s_spiff: hosch posch ?
[08:51] <HappyFool> everything else you need to compile kernel modules is on the install cd
[08:51] <McSo> crimsun_: ah ok
[08:51] <s_spiff>  slang for mess!
[08:52] <s_spiff> atleast thats what i think its spelt like..
[08:52] <McSo> HappyFool: so.. i can get them off the cd?
[08:52] <crimsun_> don't forget binutils
[08:52] <johndarkhorse> s_spiff: the file arrangement is pretty much unix standard
[08:52] <crimsun_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/devel/gcc-3.4  is the canonical list
[08:52] <s_spiff> umm, I kinda found it a lil messy
[08:53] <HappyFool> well, i got by with only those three debs compiling my winmodem driver
[08:53] <UncleD> mysql install question: What are the essential packages to install mysql (client & server)
[08:54] <s_spiff> wanted to know, when I download the updates, ar the packages deleted after the installation is complete?
[08:54] <McSo> i see
[08:54] <Morrowyn> morning
[08:54] <HappyFool> the gcc-3.4 and gcc-4.0 packages depend on the same binutils version
[08:54] <sklav> ok time to go to bed
[08:54] <sklav> its 2:54Am EST for those interested ;)
[08:54] <Greves> Hello I'm having some problems here with TwinView. Can I change the second monitor's refresh rate in a gui easily? I have to restart X every time I want to change it, and manually edit the config file.
[08:54] <johndarkhorse> s_spiff: they are stored locally
[08:54] <McSo> crimsun_: so basically on that site would i go and download the i386 package?
[08:55] <crimsun_> McSo: and the dependencies, yes
[08:55] <Mr_Molez> s_spiff: look in /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:55] <crimsun_> McSo: (you already have some installed)
[08:55] <McSo> ah k
[08:55] <s_spiff|away> so i cant delete them?
[08:55] <Mr_Molez> s_spiff|away: yeh u can
[08:55] <s_spiff|away>  /nick s_spiff|Away
[08:56] <s_spiff|away> then no problem while uninstalling them right?
[08:56] <s_spiff|away> as in i can again go to synaptic and uninstall it right?
[08:56] <johndarkhorse> s_spiff|away: open a terminal and 'man apt-get' for the correct way to 'clean' them
[08:56] <s_spiff|away> ok.
[08:56] <s_spiff|away>  will check it out johndarkhorse
[08:57] <s_spiff|away> thank, ttyl ghuys, lets these updates be installed first.
[08:57] <s_spiff|away>  cya
[08:57] <johndarkhorse> s_spiff|away: uninstalling doesnt remove the deb that is stored, it just robs you of that programs functionality
[08:57] <Greves> can i specify a second "Monitor" section with the proper vertsync range?
[08:58] <jadewolf> what do you guys suggest for an html editor in ubuntu?
[08:59] <johndarkhorse> jadewolf: there are many. do you like text ones or wysiwyg ones?
[08:59] <Xahur> I couldnt find any wysiwyg editors..
[08:59] <jadewolf> wysiwyg prefered but I started with vi along time ago
[08:59] <crimsun_> nvu?
[09:00] <Eleaf> cafuego, hi!!
[09:00] <Eleaf> hi
[09:01] <jadewolf> johndarkhorse, any suggestions?
[09:02] <crimsun_> I suggested nvu.
[09:02] <crimsun_> !info nvu
[09:02] <ubotu> nvu: (Complete Web Authoring System), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 8349 kB, Installed size: 26468 kB
[09:02] <wayne_> yo
[09:02] <jadewolf> hmm
[09:02] <Adross> what's the command that updates the debian menu?
[09:03] <jadewolf> I'll try that crimsun_ , sorry I didn't say anything earlier I usually look for my name ont he line to read
[09:03] <McSo> jadewolf: hahah i do the same thing, i get really confused because theres so many people talking at one time
[09:03] <crimsun_> Adross: update-menus
[09:04] <wayne_> lol
[09:04] <Adross> crimsun_: do i have to restart x for it to work?
[09:04] <jadewolf> McSo, I just do it this way to avoid picking up half my conversations and half of someone elses
[09:04] <McSo> crimsun_: i just downloaded the gcc-3.4 packages and i'm booting ubuntu up now... so how do install them once i've got them?
[09:04] <Adross> it's still listing kde stuff is all
[09:04] <duderino> what archives does ubuntu gnome breezy support?
[09:04] <crimsun_> Adross: do you have menu-xdg installed?
[09:04] <Adross> i think so
[09:05] <duderino> audacity is being a pig and won't recognize my soundcard
[09:05] <crimsun_> Adross: use dpkg -l to ensure that you do.
[09:05] <Adross> crimsun_: yes
[09:05] <crimsun_> McSo: sudo dpkg -i [..] 
[09:06] <crimsun_> duderino: ``cat /proc/asound/cards'' -> pastebin
[09:06] <duderino> ok
[09:07] <duderino> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6795
[09:08] <jadewolf> crimsun_, omg thank you dude, this nvu is awesome
[09:08] <McSo> crimsun_: ok i've got gcc installed
[09:09] <crimsun_> McSo: so now follow the instructions in the unpacked driver source to compile the driver
[09:09] <duderino> is there an alt-tab equiv for gnmoe?
[09:10] <johndarkhorse> duderino: alt-tab doesnt work?
[09:10] <duderino> not while in game
[09:10] <duderino> oh wait it does
[09:10] <crimsun_> duderino: what error is Audacity giving you?
[09:11] <duderino> stand by
[09:11] <jack|ass> is there a bittorrent for the CD iso of breezy?
[09:11] <crimsun_> jack|ass: yes, see the download page.
[09:12] <jack|ass> nevermind
[09:12] <jack|ass> crimsun_: hah, yeah, sorry, i just now saw it.  I questioned because on the mirrors, the dvd has a torrent link
[09:13] <gerald-volt> what's a good program for writing source code
[09:13] <gerald-volt> for C
[09:13] <duderino> The error is gone...last night I'd press record and Audacity would genrate something to the effect of can't connect sound card...i didjnt wr9ite it down
[09:13] <crimsun_> gerald-volt: any editor that you find comfortable.
[09:14] <gerald-volt> what are some out there?
[09:14] <crimsun_> vim, emacs, joe, nano, [..] 
[09:14] <duderino> now it starts recording....i can hear the mic...i select the mic in audacity it wont record anything though
[09:14] <duderino> it records but not any sound
[09:14] <crimsun_> duderino: pastebin the output of ``amixer''
[09:14] <C-O-L-T> how to install a deb file in terminal
[09:14] <duderino> ok
[09:15] <crimsun_> C-O-L-T: sudo dpkg -i [..] 
[09:15] <C-O-L-T> crimsun_: ok thanks
[09:15] <McSo> crimsun_: it said i needed to install the ncurses libraries... is that from the gcc-3.4 package that i was meant to download?
[09:15] <crimsun_> McSo: you need libncurses5-dev and is dependencies
[09:15] <duderino> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6796
[09:15] <crimsun_> s/is/its/
[09:15] <duderino> thats a lot of info
[09:16] <Korupt> okay, now I'm irritated... Eterm doesn't work borderless in gnome
[09:17] <crimsun_> duderino: you need to set 'ADC' to Capture, too
[09:17] <crimsun_> (and unmute it)
[09:18] <eeaaxx> is there a site where i can find a list of all repositories?
[09:18] <duderino> so syntax is # sudo gedit amixer   ?
[09:19] <crimsun_> duderino: no, just alsamixer
[09:19] <crimsun_> no sudo
[09:19] <duderino> ok
[09:19] <McSo> crimsun_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/libdevel/libncurses5-dev this one?
[09:19] <crimsun_> McSo: yes
[09:19] <duderino> how does one address only the one they are talking to anyway?
[09:19] <eeaaxx> is there a site where i can find a list of all repositories?
[09:20] <dooglus> eeaaxx: no
[09:20] <crimsun_> duderino: you preface the statement with the nick, like we're doing
[09:20] <duderino> nick crimsun whats up?
[09:20] <dooglus> eeaaxx: nobody knows about all the repositories
[09:20] <duderino> nick/crimson hello
[09:20] <crimsun_> duderino: no, just: crimsun: [..] 
[09:20] <duderino> crimsun hi
[09:20] <eeaaxx> dooglus: ok. thanks
[09:20] <duderino> crimsun: hi
[09:21] <duderino> whatever
[09:21] <jadewolf> So are there any decent games for ubuntu?
[09:21] <crimsun_> duderino: don't try to priv msg/query me, just address me in here.
[09:21] <gerald-volt> how do I execute a program in terminal without having to have the terminal opened the whole time while the program is running?
[09:21] <glyph> Where do I go to report bugs on dapper?
[09:21] <duderino> i like netpanzer
[09:21] <dooglus> gerald-volt: nohup it
[09:21] <gerald-volt> thanks
[09:21] <crimsun_> glyph: if it's a main package, use bugzilla, otherwise, malone.
[09:21] <duderino> i wont i was just wondering how to make it in red or whatever
[09:21] <glyph> crimsun_: How's "gnome" :)
[09:21] <gerald-volt> doesn't work though
[09:21] <dooglus> gerald-volt: like "nohup firefox > /dev/null 2>&1 &
[09:21] <crimsun_> glyph: [http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com and http://launchpad.net/malone , respectively] 
[09:21] <gerald-volt> that's so complicated
[09:21] <dooglus> gerald-volt: "doesn't work" isn't a very good bug report
[09:22] <gerald-volt> i just tried nohup emacs
[09:22] <dooglus> gerald-volt: you don't have to redirect the output if you don't want to
[09:22] <gerald-volt> and the terminal stays there
[09:22] <gerald-volt> that's what i mean
[09:22] <dooglus> gerald-volt: so kill the terminal
[09:22] <gerald-volt> if I kill the terminal, it kills my program
[09:23] <dooglus> not if you nohup it it doesn't
[09:23] <gerald-volt> nohup emacs > /dev/null 2>&1$
[09:23] <gerald-volt> -bash: 1$: ambiguous redirect
[09:23] <dooglus> what's that dollar sign on the end for?
[09:23] <gerald-volt> oops
[09:23] <gerald-volt> typo
[09:24] <gerald-volt> ok
[09:24] <gerald-volt> that worked
[09:24] <gerald-volt> can u explain how that bash line worked?
[09:24] <crimsun_> duderino: have you pasted it yet?
[09:24] <duderino> no
[09:24] <dooglus> doesn't work for me
[09:25] <jadewolf> So do you guys suggest wine or cedga?
[09:25] <duderino> I am trying to select it in capture what are keyboard commands rodent dependant here
[09:25] <crimsun_> duderino: ok, have you opened alsamixer yet/
[09:25] <duderino> yes
[09:25] <crimsun_> duderino: press F4 for the capture perspective
[09:25] <duderino> i tabbed to capture
[09:25] <dooglus> gerald-volt: which bit(s) don't you understand?
[09:25] <gerald-volt> wait
[09:25] <crimsun_> duderino: use the left and right arrow keys to move to the ADC component
[09:25] <dooglus> there wasn't a 'wait' bit
[09:25] <TranceRiver> Yay!  I'm finally on Ubunbu.
[09:26] <TranceRiver> Ubuntu*.
[09:26] <duderino> ok
[09:26] <duderino> got that far
[09:26] <crimsun_> duderino: press the space bar to toggle
[09:26] <gerald-volt> what is /dev/null 2 > &1&
[09:26] <duderino> oh cool
[09:26] <crimsun_> duderino: press escape to quit
[09:26] <dooglus> >/dev/null is redirecting the output
[09:26] <duderino> sweet
[09:26] <dooglus> 2>&1 is redirecting the errors
[09:26] <dooglus> & is running it in the background
[09:27] <gerald-volt> oh
[09:27] <dooglus> see "man bash" for information
[09:27] <gerald-volt> but it still doesn't work
[09:27] <gerald-volt> if i close the terminal, it cloess emacs
[09:27] <dooglus> how are you closing the terminal?
[09:27] <gerald-volt> by clicking the X symbol
[09:28] <gerald-volt> on the top right corner of the terminal
[09:28] <dooglus> try typing "exit" or control-d
[09:28] <gerald-volt> k, that worked
[09:28] <duderino> your royalty crimsun i will send you a signed copy of my first gold record
[09:28] <crimsun_> duderino: np
[09:28] <duderino> any good drum machines for ubuntu?
[09:28] <duderino> or sequencers/
[09:28] <duderino> ?
[09:29] <crimsun_> duderino: you can search with synaptic
[09:29] <TranceRiver> How come I cannot change refresh rates in Ubuntu?  On my old Windows 2000, I could go up to 85 hz.
[09:29] <duderino> synaptic is funny I can't seem to make things I find there work
[09:29] <crimsun_> !tell TranceRiver about fixres
[09:29] <duderino> xawtv for example crashes my machine
[09:30] <duderino> and i cant figure out how to delete it
[09:30] <crimsun_> duderino: you can use Synaptic to remove it, just as you used it to install it
[09:30] <duderino> oh i see
[09:30] <dorto> my nautilus crashed and i was prompted to submit a bug. i entered some information but don't have a SMTP account; so the info was saved to a file. how do i submit it now?
[09:30] <gerald-volt> how do I get coloured text when I progarm using nano
[09:30] <dorto> to whom should i email the saved bug information?
[09:31] <rowanjl> I can't get decent (non-choppy) DVD output :/
[09:31] <crimsun_> dorto: what program?
[09:31] <rowanjl> xine-check tells me its because XVideo isn't installed
[09:31] <rowanjl> but it is
[09:33] <jadewolf> duderino, did you check out hydrogen for drum machine?
[09:33] <duderino> hydrogen im booting synaptic now I will try it...I ve used it on dsl a little
[09:33] <rowanjl> forget what I jus said, found a solution on a forum
[09:34] <duderino> im really fond of fruity loops and acid....as well as audiomulch on windoze
[09:35] <C-O-L-T> who can help me in installing ww2d program like google eartg
[09:38] <TranceRiver> how much space does linux take up on the hard drive?
[09:39] <TranceRiver> *ubuntu*
[09:39] <phreak97> ok, so how do i update to firefox 1.5?
[09:40] <timfrost>      /msg nickserv set hide email on
[09:40] <C-O-L-T>  who can help me in installing ww2d program like google earth
[09:41] <moodog> Morning all.
[09:41] <phreak97> howdy
[09:42] <phreak97> happen to know how i can install firefox 1.5?
[09:42] <sampan> tranceriver  my / partition has about 3.5 gigs of data and that's with kde (kubuntu-desktop installed on top) ... but my /home is on a separate partition
[09:43] <dooglus> dorto: you could upload it as an attachment at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
[09:44] <timfrost> moodog, evening from NZ
[09:44] <dooglus> I uninstalled kubuntu-desktop and dependancies earlier today.  it freed 400Mb.
[09:44] <ryancasimiro_> can someone explain to me what the error 'no such file directory' means?
[09:45] <dooglus> ryancasimiro_: isn't there an "or" in there as well?
[09:45] <holycow> ryancasimiro_, well ... it means no such directory?
[09:45] <Madpilot> ryancasimiro_: um, that there is no file directory w/ the name you asked for?
[09:45] <dooglus> cat: /tmp/sdfjkj: No such file or directory
[09:45] <ajmitch> timfrost: getting later into the evening now :)
[09:45] <sampan> ryancasimiro_  it means there is no such file and/or directory in that location
[09:46] <ryancasimiro_> ok thanks
[09:46] <McSo> arghhh
[09:47] <timfrost> ajmitch. yes - 8:20 PM in Wellington.  Wonder what time it is for moodog
[09:47] <ryancasimiro_> now that i knwo what it means, can someone tell me how to fix it? hehe
[09:47] <ajmitch> timfrost: your clock is a bit wrong there
[09:48] <McSo> bleh
[09:48] <TranceRiver> Where do I get to the console?
[09:48] <made> hello all.. I'm back
[09:49] <made> I'm need some troubleshooting with fstab?
[09:49] <nerdy2> TranceRiver, ctrl+alt+f1 will get you to the console (and ctrl+alt+f7) will get you back if you really want that, or else you could probably start up gnome-terminal (or kterm?) to do what you want
[09:49] <timfrost> ajmitch, not adjusted for DST, I think - my watch says 21:49, th PC says 20:49 :(
[09:49] <made> if anybody is up for troubleshooting right now?
[09:50] <ajmitch> timfrost: possibly the wrong timezone set
[09:50] <johndarkhorse> mako: don't ask to ask
[09:51] <johndarkhorse> made: don't ask to ask
[09:51] <made> ok.. I'm trying to make my ntfs partitions readable..
[09:52] <timfrost> ajmitch, and easily fixed.  Meanmtme, I wonder what TZ moodog is in
[09:52] <Madpilot> !windowsdrives
[09:52] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[09:52] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell made about mountwindows
[09:52] <made> I tried that..
[09:52] <johndarkhorse> made: and what happened
[09:52] <arrik> what the full path to the random number device in ubuntu?
[09:52] <arrik> *what's
[09:53] <made> let me do a past so you can see what happened
[09:54] <McSo> can someone help me out with an installation of hardware please? at the moment i'm going through the readme and doign everything and then i'm meant to patch somthing from the kernal... but when i try it says its not there.
[09:54] <timfrost> arrik. /dev/random
[09:54] <lsuactiafner> arrik : /dev/random has non-digits also
[09:54] <lsuactiafner> arrik /dev/something
[09:55] <arrik> thanks :)
[09:55] <phreak97> i have firefox-1.5.tar.gz and i dont know how to install it
[09:55] <lsuactiafner> phreak97 : ubuntu comes with firefox preinstalled
[09:55] <phreak97> lsuactiafner,  yeah, v1.01
[09:55] <made> http://rafb.net/paste/results/S37KUF42.html
[09:55] <phreak97> i need 1.5
[09:55] <lsuactiafner> phreak97 : but you dont want to try compile the source code, and the mozilla binary didnt work on ubuntu last time i checked
[09:56] <made> !firefox
[09:56] <timfrost> McSo, more info - what hardware, and what readme?
[09:56] <phreak97> is compiling the sourse so hard?
[09:56] <lsuactiafner> phreak97 :its not really 1.01 its been patched for some reason
[09:56] <lsuactiafner> phreak97 : also annoyes me, since the mozilla binary works on all the systems i checked but ubuntu, and for some reason we dont compile clean source....
[09:57] <lsuactiafner> phreak97 : compiling from source is very easy, but compiling firefox aint, the program is huge and somewhere the compile will fail, so youll need to fix the code yourself
[09:57] <arrik> i have Firefox 1.5 working just fine
[09:57] <lsuactiafner> but i compile my kernels, windows managers, mp3 players, mplayer myself
[09:57] <McSo> timfrost: http://optusnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/atmelwlandriver/atmelwlandriver-3.4.1.1.tar.bz2
[09:58] <phreak97> oh:(
[09:58] <phreak97> arrik, how'd you do it?
[09:58] <made> johndarkhorse: did you get the url?
[09:58] <arrik> anyone know where the kernel-headers/sources are installed?  madwifi compile complains they're not in /usr/src/linux
[09:58] <McSo> timfrost: i've done everything on the readme till the USB for 2.5 and 2.6 part
[09:58] <johndarkhorse> made: yes, one moment please
[09:58] <arrik> i just untarred it in my home directory and ran it
[09:58] <made> kool kool
[09:58] <lsuactiafner> phreak97 : i think you should just upgrade to breezy? and apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade
[09:58] <jadewolf> anyone here use wine for games?
[09:58] <johndarkhorse> made: paste your /etc/fstab for me please
[09:59] <phreak97> phreak97,  why does everyone think i have hoary? i have always had breezy
[09:59] <McSo> timfrost: when i type in command (patch -bf -p1 < patch_atmel_reset) i get "patch **** strip count l is not a number"
[09:59] <phreak97> the 1.5 binaries seem to work fine
[09:59] <phreak97> but how do i tell linux its installed?
[09:59] <lsuactiafner> thats cool
[10:00] <lsuactiafner> prefer to run nvidia offical and firefox releases
[10:00] <arrik> phreak97, just untar it somewhere, then point a launcher to firefox.   eg /home/*user*/firefox/firefox
[10:00] <phreak97> im still pretty new to it, im running the ssh file
[10:00] <johndarkhorse> phreak97: did you follow the wiki ?
[10:00] <lsuactiafner> instead of something hacked by someone that shouldnt
[10:00] <McSo> timfrost: but i'm not too sure if i'm doing it in the right folder.. in my /usr/src/ folder i have 2 folders.. linux-headers-2.6.12-9 and linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386... i did it in the 386 one.
[10:00] <made> johndarkhorse: http://rafb.net/paste/results/TAuHSE82.html
[10:00] <phreak97> will it register itself as the default browser?
[10:01] <arrik> nah, i have to copy links and open Fx manually
[10:01] <arrik> bout the only downside i've noticed so far
[10:01] <johndarkhorse> made: that is not your fstab
[10:01] <phreak97> johndarkhorse,  nope
[10:02] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell phreak97 about firefox15
[10:02] <made> fstab doesn't exist
[10:02] <made> it won't list
[10:02] <johndarkhorse> made: you have nothing at /etc/fstab ?
[10:03] <made> johndarkhorse: wow.. no it's not even there..
[10:03] <phreak97> thanks
[10:03] <made> johndarkhorse: straight from foomatic to gaim
[10:03] <duderino> ubuntu makes me happy....I can record, edit master produce play games surf...everything but watch tv (which Im still working on)
[10:04] <made> now I'm really confused.. why would the script tell me that fstab already had that information when fstab doesn't exist
[10:04] <johndarkhorse> made: dunno, but you need to do some checking
[10:04] <|37th|Trigger> GAH
[10:04] <|37th|Trigger> i forgot the dudes name again :'(
[10:05] <sorush20> guys what does this mean?         unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_EINVAL"
[10:05] <made> johndarkhorse: ?
[10:05] <McSo> timfrost: do you know how to fix it?
[10:05] <|37th|Trigger> all i can remember is "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[10:05] <|37th|Trigger> :'(
[10:05] <s_spiff> hello
[10:05] <GTroy> do you use killall to end all processes?
[10:06] <sorush20> |37th|Trigger
[10:06] <sorush20> |37th|Trigger: what is the prblem..
[10:06] <timfrost> McSo, the README implies that the full kernel needs to be present,. not just the headers
[10:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ^_^
[10:06] <sorush20> any new people in here?
[10:06] <McSo> timfrost: i see... so how do i make that happen?
[10:06] <shinu> GTroy: killall somename is to kill all processes with that name :D
[10:07] <GTroy> shinu: tried that, and no luck
[10:07] <timfrost> McSo, have yu downloaded the full kernel source?
[10:07] <C-O-L-T> who can help me in installing ww2d
[10:07] <C-O-L-T> ??????????????
[10:07] <shinu> GTroy: kill -9?
[10:07] <s_spiff> whats ww2d?
[10:07] <steve_> hey all, is there any meta package I can install for development?  I don't want to install a bunch of packages individually..
[10:07] <GTroy> shinu: I'll give it a try
[10:07] <C-O-L-T> s_spiff: GOOGLE EARTH FOR LINUX
[10:07] <McSo> timfrost: i'm not sure...
[10:07] <shinu> GTroy: kill -9 pid :)
[10:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> :D
[10:08] <McSo> timfrost: is there a way i can check?
[10:08] <made> johndarkhorse: found something.. http://rafb.net/paste/results/4wFj9Y21.html
[10:08] <s_spiff> hey, last time i installed KDe on my Ubuntu, I ended up gettin all the KDE applications on my GNOME menu's too..and all the GNOME app's on my KDE menus! anything I can do to prevent this?
[10:08] <McSo> timfrost: i don't think i have... do you know where i can get it?
[10:08] <arrik> S_SPIFF    install kubuntu from the start?
[10:09] <s_spiff> umm, but I want both, KDE and Gnome
[10:09] <s_spiff>  so i would have to install gnome on kubuntu!
[10:09] <C-O-L-T> s_spiff: I have both
[10:09] <sampan> s_spiff  you can always edit the menus to remove the applications you don't want to see
[10:09] <s_spiff>  and again the same thing would happen!
[10:09] <made> johndarkhorse: I can see it in terminal but not in /etc filebrowser
[10:09] <s_spiff> sampan, to tiresome a proocess
[10:09] <C-O-L-T> s_spiff: I have Kubuntu installed with gnome too
[10:09] <s_spiff>  I'm searchin the forums for it
[10:09] <s_spiff> as in? C-O-L-T
[10:10] <made> can somebody look at this and tell me why my ntfs is not readable in ubuntu? http://rafb.net/paste/results/4wFj9Y21.html
[10:10] <C-O-L-T> s_spiff: I have seen that you want both of them
[10:10] <s_spiff> yeah
[10:10] <s_spiff>  and I installed the KDE meta-package last time
[10:10] <s_spiff>  but the menus sorta gor 'mixed up'..
[10:10] <Greves> hello i'm having a problem installing g++... getting this huge error when i try to compile a simple hello world program: http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=11408
[10:11] <s_spiff>  anything to prevent this?
[10:11] <s_spiff>  C-O-L-T  I just got a link, thread, talking abotu it
[10:11] <s_spiff>  so with those commands I can remove all KDE stuff from GNOMe
[10:12] <s_spiff>  but no link for vice-versa
[10:12] <timfrost> McSo, "dpkg -l |grep ^ii | egrep 'linux|kernel'" should be revealing
[10:12] <C-O-L-T> s_spiff: I see
[10:12] <made> johndarkhorse: you still there?
[10:12] <johndarkhorse> made: ok, gimme a minute
[10:12] <C-O-L-T> s_spiff: how to delete my cahed archive debs
[10:12] <C-O-L-T> ?
[10:12] <made> kool .. thx in advance m8
[10:13] <made> rm
[10:13] <McSo> timfrost: do i just type that in?
[10:13] <piglop> does anyone know why user-mode-linux is not availiable in breezy?
[10:13] <Greves> anyone?
[10:14] <johndarkhorse> made: i've only changed /hda1, you should change all the other ntfs drives
[10:15] <McSo> timfrost: nevermind... i got a whole punch of stuff shown after i typed that
[10:15] <Greves> anyone help me get g++ worknig please?
[10:15] <made> ok
[10:16] <made> johndarkhorse: I'm very greatful..
[10:17] <s_spiff> C-O-L-T, I wouldn't know that, sorry. actually someone last time told me to : man spt-get  : for a procedure to 'clean' the archived packages
[10:17] <s_spiff> man apt-get
[10:18] <deFrysk> C-O-L-T, apt-get clean
[10:18] <s_spiff> try it
[10:19] <johndarkhorse> made: sorry, i'm in an office atm
[10:22] <mal1> how difficult is it to administer a group of ubuntu machines? What does RHEL offer than Ubuntu does not?
[10:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mal1: Not difficult, unless you're using some weird custom software packages.
[10:23] <McSo> timfrost: so... i think i have the full linux kernal...
[10:23] <McSo> timfrost: so.. i shouldn't be having that problem if i have the full kernal? or am i doing it in the wrong place
[10:24] <Morrowyn> mal1, a company that runs the thing that if out for profit ...
[10:24] <made> johndarkhorse: do I change the uid=000 per hda1 hdd5 hdb5?
[10:24] <Morrowyn> s/if/is
[10:24] <johndarkhorse> made: yes, just like /dev/hda1
[10:24] <made> kool
[10:25] <s_spiff> just installed FireFox 1.5
[10:25] <s_spiff>  ! yay!
[10:25] <ubotu> Not a clue, s_spiff
[10:25] <s_spiff> huh?
[10:26] <alan__> how do launch a bin file : like realpayer install bin?
[10:27] <crimsun> realplayer is in multiverse
[10:27] <johndarkhorse> alan__: ./bin
[10:27] <johndarkhorse> alan__: there is a wiki detailing how to install realplayer
[10:29] <swetland> don't suppose anyone's about who knows something about xorg, i810 video support and X startup unhappiness along the lines of:
[10:29] <swetland> (1280x1024,SAMSUNG) mode clock 100000MHz exceeds DDC maximum 80MHz
[10:29] <s_spiff> for those who have the KDE and GNOME menus mixed up this is a good link : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114158
[10:29] <swetland> there's a bug 7878 that says this issue is resolved in breezy (which I'm running), but it is still unhappy for me...
[10:31] <C-O-L-T> I AM CURRENTLY AWAY
[10:32] <s_spiff> crimsun, what exactly is multiverse?
[10:32] <s_spiff> is it that, I have to pay / register the software I downlod?
[10:32] <crimsun> s_spiff: non DFSG-free software
[10:32] <made> johndarkhorse: You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "hda1"
[10:33] <alan__> realplayer isnt in multiverse
[10:33] <johndarkhorse> made: did you unmount and remount all those partitions?
[10:33] <timfrost> McSo, the kernel stuff is divieded into 3 parts (binary/headers/source). I am not sure whether yo0u are OK with just the headers;
[10:33] <s_spiff> DFSG?
[10:33] <s_spiff> sorry, totally noob
[10:33] <yacc> Just wondering, is there a way to see what security updates are pending with apt-get/aptitude (I use apt-get -s upgrade and look for security, but that seems quite a hack)
[10:33] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell alan__ about realplayer
[10:33] <ajmitch> alan__: only software that can be distributed legally in multiverse
[10:33] <johndarkhorse> s_spiff: licensing issues seperate universe and multiverse
[10:33] <made> umount: only root can unmount /dev/hda5 from /media/hda5
[10:33] <johndarkhorse> alan__: check your priv msgs
[10:33] <s_spiff> umm ok, sill no clue, but i'll take your word for it
[10:33] <johndarkhorse> made: probably easiest to restart the box
[10:34] <alan__> thx
[10:34] <made> yeah.. brb
[10:34] <McSo> timfrost: i see... well if it says the kernel is installed.. how come it's not in the /usr/src folder?
[10:34] <UncleD> johndarkhorse: I just got pppoeconf on a fresh install of breezy. I cant connect to the box from the outside. why? how do I turn off the firewall or whatever it blocking outside connections - (i want to ssh in)
[10:34] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: have you installed 'ssh'
[10:35] <UncleD> nope
[10:35] <Greves> can anyone help me? i've just put ubuntu on, and installed g++, and am getting a huge number of errors when i try to compile anything
[10:35] <crimsun> you need openssh-server
[10:35] <UncleD> i wasnt sure if it by default came installed
[10:35] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: that would prevent any ssh activity
[10:35] <Greves> http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=11408
[10:35] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: the package name is "ssh"
[10:35] <UncleD> should I use dpkg?
[10:35] <alan__> excellent advice thanks
[10:35] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: use apt-get or synaptic
[10:35] <UncleD> apt-get install openssh-server ?
[10:36] <crimsun> yes, that would suffice
[10:36] <Sven_> kann mir jemand helfen mit kubuntu?
[10:36] <swetland> also, is there a commandline way to do updates? when I click on the "update available" icon I'm prompted for a root password and then nothing ever happens...
[10:37] <johndarkhorse> !de
[10:37] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[10:37] <timfrost> McSo,. the Kernel *SOURCE* is usually installed into /usr/src. in Ubuntu, the heraders files are under /usr/src/linux-headers/%( uname -r)
[10:37] <Madpilot> swetland: use your own user password
[10:37] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell swetland about apt-get
[10:37] <made> johndarkhorse: thx alot for your patience with my noob ass
[10:37] <Sven_> danke
[10:37] <Madpilot> !tell swetland about root
[10:37] <made> yeah m8..
[10:38] <Sven_> bye
[10:38] <made> kool
[10:38] <johndarkhorse> made: join #kubuntu-offtopic please for chat (if interested)
[10:38] <McSo> timfrost: ah ok... well i only have the linux-headers folders in /usr/src/... so i guess i don't have the kernel source then?
[10:38] <lakritz> hey
[10:39] <swetland> the bot points me at a nonexistant wiki page for the apt get howto...
[10:39] <lakritz> isn't it possible to run something every few seconds with crontab?
[10:39] <lakritz> man 5 crontab doesn't speak about seconds
[10:39] <made> thx for the invite
[10:39] <paulproteus|lapt> lakritz: You'd have to run a shell script that sleeps for a few seconds and does its job, and repeats this.
[10:39] <timfrost> McSo, correct.
[10:39] <lakritz> paulproteus|lapt, just thought of that, thanks
[10:39] <McSo> timfrost: so how do i get one?
[10:40] <ilba7r> are there a free format alternative to libdvdcss2
[10:40] <ilba7r> !freeformats
[10:40] <ubotu> from memory, freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[10:40] <Madpilot> swetland: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[10:40] <johndarkhorse> swetland: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo
[10:40] <johndarkhorse> ilba7r: there is not.
[10:41] <ilba7r> thanx johndarkhorse
[10:41] <ROBOd> hi
[10:41] <swetland> thanks
[10:42] <Morrowyn> how do i disable the alt and control keys in gnome
[10:42] <ROBOd> is there a discussion going on a forum about why Ubuntu doesn't have updates for the latest kernel?
[10:42] <Morrowyn> because i need those keys in other apps
[10:42] <lakritz> paulproteus|lapt, I just thaught "what if the script stops for any reason", what about a crontab then like "killall <scriptname>; /path/to/<scriptname>", is this a good idea?
[10:42] <s_spiff> there is a new kernel released?
[10:42] <Madpilot> Morrowyn: other apps should intercept keystrokes before Gnome gets them
[10:43] <crimsun> s_spiff: for Breezy? No.
[10:43] <s_spiff> ok.
[10:43] <Morrowyn> hmmm, weird
[10:43] <ROBOd> crimsun: yeah ... for Breezy: no
[10:43] <timfrost> McSo, apt get install linux-source-2.6.12 (breezy)
[10:43] <ROBOd> crimsun: but why?
[10:43] <crimsun> ROBOd: why what?
[10:43] <paulproteus|lapt> lakritz: You should have the script handle a single minute.
[10:43] <Morrowyn> when i press alt and mouseclick, gnome is going to move my window
[10:43] <paulproteus|lapt> And then run it every minute via cron.
[10:43] <ROBOd> crimsun: why there isn't?
[10:43] <ROBOd> :)
[10:43] <crimsun> ROBOd: it's a frozen distro. Nothing new goes in.
[10:44] <lakritz> paulproteus|lapt, it's a python-script I wrote, so it should sleep a dividor of 60?
[10:44] <lakritz> ah ... ok, now understood
[10:44] <lakritz> hehehe
[10:44] <lakritz> like run 4 times always sleeping 15secs
[10:44] <lakritz> or 3 times of course
[10:44] <ROBOd> so ... users getting the stable release of a distro (like Breezy) .... won't get updates?
[10:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ROBOd: Only security updates.
[10:45] <ROBOd> for updates they have to use "experimental" Dapper?
[10:45] <crimsun> ROBOd: only security fixes and major updates. The kernel is too big to safely update without introducing bugs.
[10:45] <McSo> timfrost: thanks for helping... http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fl%2Flinux-source-2.6.12%2Flinux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-10.25_all.deb&md5sum=8abe8d2b2aa42d77ec8c6d21627be496&arch=all&type=security is that basically what i want?
[10:45] <ROBOd> taha
[10:46] <pinucset> one think, how can i connect to a friend's computer? (see his linux for helping him)
[10:46] <ROBOd> and ... when dapper will be released ...
[10:46] <ROBOd> is there a way to upgrade?
[10:46] <filleokus> Hi
[10:46] <crimsun> ROBOd: from breezy to dapper? Yes, in April 2006.
[10:46] <johndarkhorse> ROBOd: the ubuntu version numbers are the release dates, hence Dapper 6.04 will release in april 2006
[10:46] <timfrost> McSoi, I think so.  I haven't had too go that route to get the stuff Iwant (java. VMware) working.  Good luck
[10:47] <UncleD> johndarkhorse: that worked great, thank you. I can ssh in now.
[10:47] <UncleD> johndarkhorse: I have 2 p4 cpus in my machine. Did breezy detect both of them and configure them to be used on install? How do I check?
[10:47] <ROBOd> thanks guys
[10:47] <Morrowyn> hmmmm, i cant find the alt-leftmouse combination in gnome keyboard shotcuts
[10:47] <_BlackCrow_>  ???!!!!
[10:47] <Morrowyn> i need to disable this one
[10:47] <s_spiff> hey anyone knows how to install the skins for sMSN?
[10:47] <ROBOd> they do work hard on making smooth upgrade?
[10:47] <s_spiff> aMSN
[10:48] <crimsun> ROBOd: yes
[10:48] <ROBOd> hope so :)
[10:48] <_BlackCrow_>  ???!!!!
[10:48] <filleokus> Im running ubuntu on my new server. And when i have added all that ni should to in my source.list. I cant install apache or proftpd or something cause  when i apt-get update i cant connect to the backports
[10:48] <filleokus> And when i comment them out it says that i dont have acsess to all packages
[10:49] <filleokus> What to do?
[10:50] <UncleD> I have two Pentium4 cpus in my machine. Did breezy detect both of them and configure them to be used on install? How do I check?
[10:50] <ROBOd> where to find new backports for my ubuntu? with fresh updates?
[10:50] <ROBOd> fresh updates for opera, firefox and the like
[10:50] <UncleD> Robo, i was wondering the same thing
[10:50] <_BlackCrow_>       ,    
[10:50] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell ROBOd about sources
[10:50] <Mez> !tell ROBOd about backports
[10:50] <ROBOd> not "hard-core" stuff like the kernel
[10:50] <ROBOd> hehe
[10:50] <UncleD> john, do you know the answer
[10:50] <UncleD> to my question ?
[10:50] <filleokus> Any ideas about my trubble?
[10:50] <UncleD> regarding cpus.
[10:51] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: the answer to what?
[10:51] <Mez> ROBOd, I believe you should have been messaged by ubotu about backports :D we dont do anything hardcore AT ALL :D
[10:51] <UncleD> johndarkhorse: I have 2 p4 cpus in my machine. Did breezy detect both of them and configure them to be used on install? How do I check?
[10:51] <ROBOd> Mez: hehe, i enabled the universe and multiverse of course
[10:51] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: in a terminal type "uname -a"
[10:51] <thegladiator> whats the command line to edit the login screen ?
[10:52] <filleokus> should have taken debian instead
[10:52] <Mez> ROBOd, whatever - just use the backports line :D it's great :D backports pwns :D
[10:52] <Mez> lol
[10:52] <Mez> but then I'm the "team leader" for it
[10:52] <Mez> so I would say that
[10:52] <johndarkhorse> Mez: you should state a disclaimer
[10:52] <UncleD> john: what am i looking for in uname -a ?
[10:52] <ROBOd> Mez: lol
[10:52] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: something resembling 'smp'
[10:52] <UncleD> I dont see it.
[10:52] <UncleD> How can I get ubuntu to recognize my second cpu?
[10:52] <Mez> johndarkhorse, a disclaimer? why?
[10:52] <ilba7r> uncled i am not sure but you can try top in a terminal
[10:53] <thegladiator> can someone tell me the command so that I can chnage my gnome login screen . i am using kde at the moment
[10:53] <johndarkhorse> Mez: you issued one while i was typing
[10:53] <UncleD> I think I need to install a smp kernel john.
[10:53] <UncleD> john: where can I find an smp kernel to install
[10:53] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: probably so, you can use synaptic
[10:53] <Mez> thegladiator, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[10:53] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: type john<tab> please
[10:53] <UncleD> johndarkhorse: oh, that works.
[10:53] <bob_> ROBOd, Try: cat /proc/cpuinfo  Then count how many cpus you see.
[10:53] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: that alerts me that you are talking to me
[10:53] <thegladiator> Mez, actually I set that to gdm , but hwo do I change my gdm screen ?
[10:54] <UncleD> bob_: i need to install smp I think.
[10:54] <UncleD> johndarkhorse: I didn't know.
[10:54] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: use synaptic
[10:54] <filleokus> whats the right adress to the backports?
[10:54] <keskemal> hi
[10:54] <Mez> !tell filleokus about backports
[10:54] <thegladiator> Mez, i changed it to something else from the default Human screen . nOw i ndeed to get back to the old uman screen
[10:54] <Mez> oh
[10:54] <UncleD> johndarkhorse: ok, i will.
[10:55] <crimsun> thegladiator: System> Administration> Login Window
[10:55] <Mez> thegladiator, I'm not too sure - sorry D I use kdm :D
[10:55] <grundo> hi all!
[10:55] <ROBOd> bob_: i see only one cpu :P
[10:55] <keskemal> I'm from Turkey
[10:55] <thegladiator> crimsun, i am also using kde atm:) command line is what i wa thinkin
[10:56] <keskemal> What about are you talking?
[10:56] <thegladiator> crimsun, how to acess the same thing from the command lone ? gnome-login-manager ?
[10:56] <thegladiator> something like that ?
[10:56] <johndarkhorse> keskemal: join #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat, #ubuntu is a help and support channel
[10:56] <crimsun> thegladiator: my instructions are for gdm, not kdm
[10:56] <ilba7r> UncleD, did you try top command will show you the cpus you have
[10:56] <bob_> ROBOd, then your kernel is only seeing one cpu.  Yes, as you said, you need to install an smp aware kernel.
[10:57] <crimsun> I'm sure there's something in KDE's control application
[10:57] <keskemal> ok
[10:57] <UncleD> johndarkhorse: I dont see anything under synaptic called smp or anything like that?
[10:57] <thegladiator> crimsun, no idea about the command line to aces the same thing ?
[10:57] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: what processor do you have?
[10:57] <grundo> i tryed to compile my c++ project whit KDevelop, but it done a configure error: Qt(>= Qt 3.2)(headers and libraries)not found.
[10:58] <UncleD> johndarkhorse: model : 4
[10:58] <UncleD> model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
[10:58] <ROBOd> bob_: who said i need that? :P
[10:58] <bob_> ROBOd, Try: apt-cache search linux-image smp  to see what kernels are available with smp.
[10:58] <grundo> where i can get these headers libaries?
[10:58] <UncleD> johndarkhorse: model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
[10:58] <s_spiff|AWAY> does that mean grundo doesn't have the libraries?
[10:58] <crimsun> grundo: libqt3-mt-dev
[10:58] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: try linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp
[10:58] <grundo> ?
[10:58] <|37th|Trigger> Hello :)
[10:59] <s_spiff|AWAY> huh?
[10:59] <UncleD> johndarkhorse: can i install that via apt-get install?
[10:59] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: you may, if you wish
[10:59] <ilba7r> grundo install libqt-dev
[10:59] <grundo> sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev?
[10:59] <|37th|Trigger> Anyone know anything about installing games? ;o
[10:59] <UncleD> johndarkhorse: when I do apt-cache search smp I don't see anything called linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp - how come?
[10:59] <Madpilot> |37th|Trigger: which games?
[11:00] <thegladiator> |37th|Trigger, gnome comes with a host of nice games actally :)
[11:00] <jenda> Anyone know what I can do when dvd:rip refuses to work with .iso images?
[11:00] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: apt-cache search 'linux-image'  (no quotes)
[11:00] <bob_> ROBOd, Oops.  My mistake.  I mixed you up with UncleD who asked that question.  Sorry.
[11:00] <crimsun> grundo: you'd better just install kdebase-dev
[11:00] <grundo> :)
[11:00] <grundo> what im going to install here?
[11:00] <grundo> :-)
[11:00] <johndarkhorse> jenda: burn the .iso to a disk
[11:00] <crimsun> kdebase-dev
[11:00] <|37th|Trigger> hmm
[11:00] <UncleD> johndarkhorse: I see the following.. linux-image-2.6.12-9-386 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.12 on 386 & linux-image-386 - Linux kernel image on 386.
[11:01] <|37th|Trigger> why cant i pm madpilot :/
[11:01] <UncleD> neither of those say smp.
[11:01] <filleokus> does sdo apt-get install  proftpd works for you?
[11:01] <filleokus> sudo
[11:01] <filleokus> *
[11:01] <jenda> johndarkhorse: can't (no DVD burner)... but I could mount it...
[11:01] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: visit packages.ubuntu.com and search there for linux-image
[11:01] <grundo> there is no libqt-dev
[11:01] <UncleD> johndarkhorse: why doesn't my apt-cache search properly show it..
[11:02] <bob_> UncleD, You should also see linux-image-2.6.12-9-686-smp in breezy/main
[11:02] <filleokus> Any one?
[11:02] <UncleD> bob.. is somethign wrong with my apt-cache search.. for not listing that?
[11:02] <filleokus> im kind of stuck here..
[11:02] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: i have no clue. try using synaptic
[11:02] <UncleD> johndarkhorse: i tink I need a better sources.list file
[11:02] <ilba7r> grundo, sorry it might be an old repos i had
[11:03] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell UncleD about sources
[11:03] <grundo> :)
[11:03] <grundo> ok
[11:03] <grundo> i found kdebase-dev
[11:03] <grundo> :)
[11:03] <bob_> UncleD, Really strange that you would see one but not see the other.  Both are in breezy/main.  Try using smp in the search pattern
[11:03] <grundo> will that solve the problem?
[11:03] <s_spiff|AWAY> ! repositories
[11:03] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:04] <horndog> I don't think P4's do smp, only Zeons
[11:04] <s_spiff|AWAY> ! x-chat
[11:04] <ubotu> Not a clue, s_spiff|AWAY
[11:04] <bob_> Actually a Xeon is a P4.
[11:04] <horndog> not when it come to smp :)
[11:05] <UncleD> bob_: smp in the pattern shows me nothing..
[11:05] <grundo> !ubotu
[11:05] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[11:05] <crimsun> UncleD: it's easiest to install linux-686-smp
[11:05] <UncleD> crimsun: I dont see that in my packages.
[11:05] <horndog> Bet to go the "2cpu" forum to ask for sure
[11:05] <bimberi> UncleD: what sources do you have enabled - it might only be the CD ones
[11:05] <UncleD> crimsun: I believe maybe my sources.list is not very good?
[11:05] <UncleD> bimberi: How do i enable more sources
[11:05] <grundo> !glib
[11:05] <ubotu> grundo: I don't know
[11:05] <crimsun> UncleD: you haven't enabled the main and security repos. Fix that in System> Administration> Synaptic> Settings> Repositories
[11:05] <UncleD> bimberi: How can I enable a full list of the best sources.
[11:05] <|37th|Trigger> umm
[11:06] <bimberi> UncleD: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[11:06] <|37th|Trigger> what's the standard root password for ubuntu?
[11:06] <UncleD> crimsun: I see, thank you.
[11:06] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: listen to crimsun
[11:06] <|37th|Trigger> it didnt ask me too set one :/
[11:06] <grundo> !suse
[11:06] <ubotu> grundo: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:06] <bimberi> ubotu tell |37th|Trigger about root
[11:06] <grundo> !yes
[11:06] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, grundo?
[11:06] <ilba7r> strange when i run aptitude search i get libqt-dev as a virtual package. yet i can not find it using synaptic?
[11:06] <grundo> :-)
[11:07] <Madpilot> |37th|Trigger: there isn't one, use sudo
[11:07] <s_spiff|AWAY> ubotu is a bot right?
[11:07] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, s_spiff|AWAY
[11:07] <s_spiff|AWAY> what?
[11:07] <bimberi> s_spiff|AWAY: yes it is :)
[11:07] <bimberi> ubotu tell s_spiff|AWAY about yourself
[11:08] <grundo> :-)
[11:08] <s_spiff|AWAY> lol, nice
[11:08] <s_spiff|AWAY> unix?
[11:09] <grundo> i mean linux
[11:09] <s_spiff|AWAY> ouu ok.
[11:09] <grundo> :-)
[11:11] <McSo> hey guys.. once i get a .deb file how do i install it?
[11:11] <crimsun> McSo: dpkg -i [..] 
[11:11] <thegladiator> !deb
[11:11] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:12] <McSo> thanks
[11:13] <UncleD> crimsun: that worked perfect
[11:13] <bob_> ubotu tell |37th|Trigger about rootpasswd
[11:13] <UncleD> crimsun: question. The first thing that popped up after I did that was that a bunch of updates were available - but I had to "close" synaptic to install them - how come?
[11:14] <Madpilot> bob_: use "root" or "sudo" for that ubotu command
[11:14] <Madpilot> !tell bob_ about root
[11:14] <s_spiff|AWAY> cuz i think no two asp-get sorta stuff can acces the files simultaneously
[11:14] <crimsun> UncleD: only one program can have exclusive access to alter the package database
[11:14] <s_spiff|AWAY> apt-get*
[11:14] <thegladiator> once one updating program runs at a time
[11:14] <bimberi> UncleD: you can't run synaptic and the update manager at the same time
[11:14] <encode> how can i resolve unmet dependencies for installing apache2 via apt after dist-upgrading from warty to hoary?
[11:14] <s_spiff|AWAY> yeah... yay.. I was right for once :P
[11:14] <thegladiator> its configure that way to avoid confusion
[11:15] <bob_> Madpilot, the wiki page documenting that needs to be updated then.
[11:15] <s_spiff|AWAY> why two different stuff like 'Add Application' and 'Synaptic....'?
[11:15] <crimsun> s_spiff|AWAY: we're migrating away from Synaptic
[11:16] <s_spiff|AWAY> why?
[11:16] <s_spiff|AWAY>  its quite good..isn't it?
[11:16] <jenda> Does anyone have any experience with dvd:rip (so as to recognise an error message at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6802 ?)
[11:16] <crimsun> s_spiff|AWAY: for the majority of cases, gnome-app-install is what people want
[11:16] <s_spiff|AWAY>  i mean, if i can find stuff, I just use 'Search'
[11:16] <grundo> eny good web sites whic have nice tutorials about Qt c++ programing?
[11:16] <s_spiff> umm, and whats the difference?
[11:16] <crimsun> grundo: there are lots. Try a Web search engine.
[11:16] <thegladiator> grundo, ask in #c++ also
[11:17] <grundo> ok
[11:17] <grundo> thanks!
[11:17] <grundo> all
[11:17] <s_spiff> whats Qt c++
[11:17] <fek> moin
[11:17] <crimsun> s_spiff: g-a-i is a more streamlined interface for installing programs
[11:17] <grundo> i have my fisrt program compiles!
[11:17] <s_spiff> i know c++ but QT?
[11:17] <grundo> :)
[11:17] <s_spiff> ohh ok.
[11:17] <SOMNIVM> !
[11:17] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, SOMNIVM
[11:17] <grundo> !Qt
[11:17] <ubotu> Qt is the Q-toolkit. Qt is to KDE what GTK is to GNOME. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package
[11:17] <SOMNIVM> sorry about that
[11:17] <SOMNIVM> :P
[11:18] <grundo> :-)
[11:18] <SOMNIVM> it opend the tab while I was writing a kick msg
[11:18] <netstar> For some reason ubuntu has associated Xchat with jpeg files and I can't remove the reference in open with dialog, any ideas?
[11:19] <s_spiff> heelp!!! I wanted my pc timeing to sync with some server crap, so I asked it to install some NTP or something, the terminal was installing some TLC.. or TCL
[11:19] <nullvoid> my mail.log says amavis : ANTI-VIRUS and ANTI-SPAM code NOT loaded
[11:19] <bimberi> ubotu tell netstar about defaultapp
[11:19] <kouwe> when i want to unmount my ntfs drive its says it cannot be done cause of used drive... how do i unuse it?
[11:19] <s_spiff>  and while i was writing a msg on XCHAT, the wil\ndow came up..and I pressed spacebar..
[11:19] <s_spiff>  and the thing got cancelled..
[11:19] <s_spiff>  any way to revive it?
[11:19] <crimsun> s_spiff: your pc already syncs to a time server at boot by default
[11:19] <s_spiff>  now i cant open the 'Adjust Time Setting' on my dektop watch
[11:20] <netstar> bimberi, I know this, but I can't remove Xchat, the remove button doesn't highlight
[11:20] <s_spiff> Adjust Date and Time'
[11:20] <s_spiff> it doesnt open!
[11:20] <nicholas> can anyone help me install unreal tournament 2004?
[11:20] <grundo> Does it run OpenGL?
[11:20] <Madpilot> s_spiff: does it ask for your password? (it should)
[11:20] <s_spiff> it doesnt even get to that stage
[11:21] <UncleD> crimsun: before I install the new kernel via synaptic, is there anything special I can do to customize my kernel or synaptic makes it all automatic/
[11:21] <s_spiff>  i mean last time it did
[11:21] <s_spiff>  but after this installing/cancellation [ by mistake]  its not doing anything
[11:21] <grundo> !installing unreal tournament
[11:21] <ubotu> grundo: No idea
[11:21] <kouwe> when i want to unmount my ntfs drive its says it cannot be done cause of used drive... how do i unuse it?
[11:21] <crimsun> UncleD: it's automagic. You just need to reboot.
[11:22] <bimberi> netstar: yes, same here, but  you can change the application though?
[11:22] <s_spiff> nor does the synaptic package manager open!
[11:22] <s_spiff> crap!
[11:22] <netstar> bimberi, xchat is present for you also? Yes I can change the application, it's just a little ugly.
[11:23] <s_spiff> when i used sudo command, i got this error : timestamp too far in the future: Jan  8 20:49:22 2006
[11:23] <s_spiff> anyc clue as to what the problem maybe?
[11:24] <s_spiff> brb
[11:24] <Eleaf> hmm
[11:25] <crimsun> he just needed to invalidate all his tty tickets
[11:25] <crimsun> then reauth via sudo
[11:26] <bimberi> netstar: no, no xchat - and i can't remove anything either (even with 'sudo nautilus' - yes i know that's naughty :) )
[11:26] <katie_> Quick Question : Still no Shockwave plugin or anything for linux?
[11:26] <katie_> Nothing at all?
[11:26] <Myrtti> er?
[11:27] <UncleD> crimsun: is this the one i should use? linux-image-2.6.12-9-686-smp ?
[11:27] <crimsun> katie_: no shockwave director, no
[11:27] <johndarkhorse> katie_: flashplayer is as close as you get
[11:27] <bimberi> katie_: nothing at all :( - although i do have it working under wine
[11:27] <zelz_666> hey guys
[11:27] <crimsun> UncleD: linux-686-smp is the name of the metapackage that does all the magic
[11:27] <kijjaz> lo (me newbie). i wanna install Flash for Firefox but it's not supported. I'm using Firefox 1.0.7 that comes with Ubuntu for ppc ^^"
[11:27] <kouwe> how can i check wich programm is accessing my NTFS drive on /media/data... to kill it ?
[11:27] <nicholas> how do i mount a disk with ubuntu?
[11:27] <katie_> bumberi, care to explain how? lol, im new :(
[11:27] <bob_>  UncleD Yes, that should be a good one for a dual cpu machine.
[11:27] <Madpilot> !flash
[11:27] <crimsun> UncleD: one of the packages will be linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp
[11:27] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:27] <UncleD> ok great crimsun.
[11:28] <zelz_666> anyone intereseted in php?
[11:28] <UncleD> crimsun: is there a meta package that installs php 5.1.1?
[11:28] <bimberi> ubotu tell katie_ about wine
[11:28] <kijjaz> Or flash plugin for firefox is not supported in Ubuntu for PPC?
[11:28] <ahoora> hi all , i am using g++ in linux but i face errors when i use templates    do i need to enable templates in g++?
[11:28] <crimsun> UncleD: sure, search for php5
[11:29] <Madpilot> kijjaz: yeah, if you're running PPC I think you're out of luck - blame Macromedia...
[11:29] <katie_> ta
[11:29] <callie> anyone here network to an xbox using a second NIC? i could use some help here
[11:29] <zelevw> Hi everyone...my kids are running Edubuntu and I'd like to filter their web surfing...is there an equivalent to cybersitter or net nanny?  thanks!
[11:29] <netstar> callie, google for iptables MASQUERADING
[11:29] <kijjaz> Madpilot: hahahha oh hahah thanks!! ^^" hmm.. i'm glad already seeing my old iBook running something that looks modern and uptodate like Unix lol.. ^^
[11:29] <callie> thanks netstar, im a little lost here
[11:30] <s_spiff> hey, I just rebooted, and stuff's working again
[11:30] <s_spiff> :P
[11:30] <netstar> callie, it's not explainable within an irc window
[11:30] <netstar> sorry
[11:30] <callie> netstar: i know what you mean, you'd end up cut and pasting the whole page
[11:30] <bimberi> katie_: my method was - 1. install wine (as per /msg from ubotu) 2. configure using sidenet - http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html  3. install firefox for windows  4. run it and install shockwave player
[11:31] <netstar> you'll get it eventually, just keep trying
[11:31] <katie_> ahh, thanks
[11:31] <katie_> im just installing wine now
[11:31] <callie> ok, might pop back for some help once i got the basics down though netstar
[11:31] <katie_> or not
[11:31] <katie_> can i pm you, just for a sec
[11:31] <katie_> lol
[11:31] <netstar> sounds good calc
[11:31] <bimberi> katie_: sure
[11:31] <netstar> callie even
[11:32] <bimberi> katie_: you're not identified so can't /msg me -  /join #bimberi instead
[11:32] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell katie_ about register
[11:33] <s_spiff> ! register
[11:33] <ubotu> register is, like, totally, type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[11:33] <Katie^> There.
[11:33] <Katie^> lol
[11:34] <callie> just one question though netstar , without setting up a masquerading, i should still be able to ping the xbox using 'ping -I eth1 <ipofxbox>'. or is that wrong?
[11:35] <McSo> hey.. i've downloaded a kernal source file.. can someone help/teach me how to install it?
[11:35] <netstar> yep should work
[11:35] <zelevw> Hi everyone...my kids are running Edubuntu and I'd like to filter their web surfing...is there an equivalent to cybersitter or net nanny?  thanks!
[11:35] <johndarkhorse> McSo: your synaptic or apt should be able to grab kernel sources
[11:35] <nicholas> omg :/
[11:36] <nicholas> ubuntu doesnt like me :(
[11:36] <McSo> johndarkhorse: i'm not connected on the internet
[11:36] <nicholas> bash: ./linux-installer.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[11:36] <nicholas> that's connected as root too :/
[11:36] <nicholas> any idea why?
[11:36] <s_spiff> oops
[11:37] <McSo> johndarkhorse: i'm actually trying to follow the instructions of the README of the driver of my wireless lan card
[11:37] <s_spiff> hey is there something like Ctrl+Alt+Del?
[11:37] <s_spiff>  so that I can force close programs that are not responding?
[11:38] <vealstock> s_spiff - try running xkill in a terminal
[11:38] <stgraber> s_spiff: alt+F2 and enter xkill
[11:38] <nicholas> ctrl +alt + backspace
[11:38] <Eleaf> Guys, I'm really bored.
[11:38] <nicholas> xD
[11:38] <vealstock> then clicking on the window you want to kill
[11:38] <callie> s_spiff: sudo killall <name of program>
[11:38] <nicholas> eleaf
[11:38] <stgraber> and click on the software you want to kill
[11:38] <nicholas> if your bored
[11:38] <ompaul> nicholas, (A) connected as root is not a requirement if you want to do something as root (B) the script might run with >>sudo sh linuxinstaller.sh<< (C) what are you trying to install anyway
[11:38] <nicholas> help me ;)
[11:38] <Eleaf> What's a fun new open source project
[11:38] <Eleaf> nicholas, what's up? lol
[11:38] <ompaul> nicholas, btw ubuntu loves everybody
[11:38] <johndarkhorse> Eleaf: join #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:38] <Reny007> alo kk kk
[11:39] <resident> looking for help on package installation where should i go?
[11:39] <bob_> ALT+F4 will usually kill the selected window in most window managers today.
[11:39] <jenda> Does anyone have any experience with dvd:rip (so as to recognise an error message at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6802 ?)
[11:39] <s_spiff> callie, it says no processes killed
[11:39] <nicholas> ubuntu doesnt love me.
[11:39] <s_spiff>  I want to close aMSN
[11:39] <nicholas> heh.. amsn..
[11:39] <nicholas> Just use gaim.
[11:39] <crimsun> resident: what package(s)?
[11:39] <s_spiff>  which is sorta stuck
[11:39] <resident> a lib i downloaded
[11:40] <resident> it is a deb package
[11:40] <s_spiff> nah, gaim isn't so good ...esp. with the display pic part
[11:40] <nicholas> i love gaim
[11:40] <nicholas> its so to the point
[11:40] <nicholas> spiff
[11:40] <callie> s_spiff: sudo killall amsn ?
[11:40] <resident> i had it installed earlier but forgot how i did it
[11:40] <s_spiff> yeah callie
[11:40] <nicholas> if you want pictures and things that look nice
[11:40] <ompaul> !tell nicholas about enter
[11:40] <nicholas> go with windows vista :/
[11:40] <crimsun> resident: what lib?
[11:40] <s_spiff> nicholas, I did use gaim b4, but it has sometimes connection problems with msn
[11:40] <McSo> so can someone help me install this kernal source thing?
[11:40] <nicholas> lol, shut up paul :P
[11:40] <ompaul> !ops
[11:40] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[11:41] <resident> dvdcss so i can play dvds from the drive
[11:41] <johndarkhorse> resident: it's not advised to download things piecemeal
[11:41] <crimsun> McSo: you don't need kernel source to compile a driver
[11:41] <nicholas> can anyone help me with installing unreal tournie 2004? :(
[11:41] <johndarkhorse> ompaul: are you running the dinner bell?
[11:41] <crimsun> there's a libdvdcss howto factoid
[11:41] <Adross> does anyone here use openbox?
[11:41] <ompaul> yeap
[11:41] <s_spiff> well that isn't the point nicholas , I am using linux, cuz I'm trying to go away from windows
[11:41] <McSo> crimsun: .. well i've tried following the README but to no avail...
[11:41] <s_spiff>  after they dumped me from the Beta testing group :P
[11:41] <ompaul> if we are going to be trolled we can be trolled by a better class of troll
[11:41] <nicholas> sudo: unable to execute ./linux-installer.sh: Permission denied
[11:41] <crimsun> McSo: where does it fail?
[11:42] <McSo> it says
[11:42] <crimsun> (don't flood)
[11:42] <ompaul> nicholas, that was not the command I gave you scroll up and read it again
[11:43] <McSo> "copy the ungzipped file to /usr/src/linux-2.6.x and run "#patch -bf -pl < patch-atmel_reset"
[11:43] <Robbies> Hi everybody. I installed xawtv, zapping & tvtime. When I scan for channels they can't detect a signal. Can anybody help me please?
[11:43] <Eleaf> nicholas,
[11:43] <McSo> this is a requirement i'm pretty sure because it says in order to make the driver work for 2.6 kernels i'd need tod o that
[11:44] <crimsun> McSo: are you positive that the included kernel with Breezy doesn't support your hardware?
[11:44] <McSo> so i tried that and then i get this - no file to patch
[11:44] <crimsun> McSo: what device is it?
[11:44] <resident> do i need it to play dvds off the drive
[11:44] <McSo> it was
[11:44] <McSo> a wireless usb lan card
[11:45] <feestbijtje> morning
[11:45] <crimsun> McSo: I need a specific model #
[11:45] <ompaul> feestbijtje, hi
[11:45] <McSo> crimsun: http://atmelwlandriver.sourceforge.net/downloads.html <--- i got the driver from there
[11:45] <s_spiff> brb
[11:45] <McSo> Atmel AT76C5XXx based
[11:46] <Eleaf> What is fun?
[11:46] <Eleaf> I'm bored
[11:46] <McSo> helping me is fun :P
[11:46] <Eleaf> What are some interesting new projects?
[11:46] <Eleaf> lol
[11:46] <Eleaf> -helps McJerry - there
[11:46] <Eleaf> lol
[11:46] <crimsun> McSo: usb?
[11:46] <ompaul> Eleaf, chatting is done in the offtopic channels this is a help channel
[11:47] <McSo> crimsun: yah
[11:47] <zelevw> Hi everyone...my kids are running Edubuntu and I'd like to filter their web surfing...is there an equivalent to cybersitter or net nanny?  thanks!
[11:47] <ompaul> !tell Eleaf about enter
[11:47] <Eleaf> ompaul, I'm asking for help
[11:47] <crimsun> McSo: Breezy supports that.
[11:47] <Eleaf> ompaul, about getting something fun..  it's a help question
[11:47] <kouwe> what kind of drive should i use for saving data, i have now NTFS but i have to convert it to.... ?????
[11:47] <McSo> crimsun: =\ so where am i going wrong?
[11:47] <McSo> i'm pretty sure i followed that readme step by step
[11:47] <Madpilot> kouwe: EXT3 is Ubuntu's standard formatting
[11:47] <Eleaf> ompaul, better believe it
[11:48] <crimsun> McSo: first, you probably don't even need to compile a driver.
[11:48] <Eleaf> right
[11:48] <kouwe> ok Madpilot thnx
[11:48] <crimsun> McSo: sudo modprobe atmel
[11:48] <McSo> crimsun: if you don't mind, could you take me through the installation of my card?
[11:48] <McSo> crimsun: i typed that and i just got nothing..
[11:48] <crimsun> McSo: good
[11:49] <crimsun> McSo: pastebin the output from ifconfig
[11:49] <allison_1984> Madpilot: what's the best driver for your sound card ?
[11:49] <McSo> ok
[11:50] <McSo> sorry it might take some time, i'm going to have to type it out... i'm actually on my laptop and my desktop at the moment..
[11:50] <Eleaf> lol
[11:50] <McSo> :|
[11:50] <johndarkhorse> UncleD-: success?
[11:50] <UncleD-> crimsun: smp worked
[11:51] <UncleD-> yea!
[11:51] <UncleD-> both processors show up in /proc/cpuinf
[11:51] <UncleD-> both processors show up in /proc/cpuinfo
[11:51] <Madpilot> allison_1984: no idea - my onboard sound worked right away
[11:51] <crimsun> allison_1984: are you have sound card issues?
[11:51] <crimsun> s/have/having/
[11:51] <UncleD-> johndarkhorse: The next step is bind. this machine needs to run as a nameserver. can you recommend which bind package to use.. synaptic shows bind8.** but bind9 is listed when i do apt-cache search bind
[11:52] <crimsun> just install bind9
[11:52] <crimsun> (that's the package name)
[11:52] <McSo> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/496160
[11:52] <UncleD-> crimsun: using apt-get or synaptic
[11:52] <Morrowyn> http://www.morrowyn.org/3d/tree-ubuntu-human.jpg  what do you think?
[11:53] <crimsun> UncleD-: either
[11:53] <UncleD-> crimsun: i cant find bind9 in synaptic..
[11:53] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Morrowyn: eh
[11:53] <crimsun> UncleD-: it's definitely in breezy/main: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/net/bind9
[11:53] <UncleD-> crimsun: never mind
[11:53] <allison_1984> crimsun: not really, but the sound seems somewhat saturated....
[11:53] <UncleD-> crimsun: i found it now :)
[11:54] <Eleaf> I LOVE UBUNTU (not random)
[11:54] <Morrowyn> CanYouHelpMePlz, eh ? hmmm....?
[11:54] <ompaul> CanYouHelpMePlz, still stuck? or do you want to change your url to helpedalready :)
[11:54] <Eleaf> lol
[11:54] <CanYouHelpMePlz> ompaul: ?
[11:54] <crimsun> allison_1984: make sure you keep PCM below 80%
[11:54] <ompaul> CanYouHelpMePlz, you were stuck last time I was talking to you
[11:54] <crimsun> allison_1984: certain chipsets are known for massive distortion and oversaturation
[11:54] <allison_1984> crimsun: alright
[11:54] <CanYouHelpMePlz> ompaul: everything is fine now
[11:55] <crimsun> McSo: dmesg|tail
[11:55] <CanYouHelpMePlz> ompaul: printer still doesnt work but eh whatever
[11:55] <allison_1984> I have an intel sound card
[11:55] <UncleD-> crimsun: ok great. thank you once again.
[11:55] <McSo> crimsun: that gave me a bunch of unkown key released (translated set 2 code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0). stuff
[11:55] <UncleD-> crimsun: here's my nxt thing. I want to install lighttpd w/ mysql&postgrsql&php&openssl support - does thathapen automatically?
[11:56] <crimsun> McSo: ok, then I'll need all the unfiltered dmesg output
[11:56] <McSo> ok
[11:56] <crimsun> UncleD-: you'll have to check the forum for that; that's not my cup of tea.
[11:57] <crimsun> granted it's pretty straight-forward to install any/all of those
[11:57] <UncleD-> crimsun: oops, there's a problem. How do I make it so my system does "plog on" when it boots up. I use pppoe so i don't want to have to manually log on using the configured settings.
[11:58] <McSo> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/496165
[11:58] <crimsun> UncleD-: where is pppoe started?
[11:58] <UncleD-> hm
[11:58] <crimsun> McSo: _all_ of dmesg, not just the dmesg|tail
[11:58] <csj> hello, I got ubuntu live-base iso from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/livecd-base/, and I customize it, I installed xorg, gnome,gdm,etc. and then burn it to test, but failed cause I dont have /dev/input/mice, which package should I install to auto produce the device file?
[11:58] <McSo> oh
[11:58] <UncleD->  i have usr/sbin/pppoeconf let me check
[11:59] <Eleaf> uhh
[11:59] <zAo^> Seveas,  can I use your repos on Dapper?
[12:00] <McSo> crimsun: its basically all the same thing EXCEPT theres one that says usb 1-3: USB disconnect, address 5
[12:01] <Stork> hi, i don't really know how this works, is it possible to make c/c++ code that's designed for windows work on ubuntu?
[12:02] <ompaul> Stork, if it is real c++ not something with lots of graphics - so hello world should port but windows effects you would have to run the binary on wine and hope for the best
[12:02] <UncleD-> crimsun: on synaptic, i notice there is mysql-server (4.0.24) and mysql-server-4.1 (4.1.12) - any reason not to install 4.1.12?
[12:02] <Stork> oh darn
[12:02] <ninnghizidha> is there a way to format an USB-Stick?
[12:02] <Stork> ompaul, i don't know any c/c++, so it would probably be difficult to make the source run from the command line
[12:03] <crimsun> McSo: what's the output from the following command? modinfo at76c503 >&/dev/null; echo $?
[12:03] <ompaul> Stork, you would take it and compile it
[12:03] <crimsun> UncleD-: not really
[12:03] <Stork> ompaul, and remove the gui?
[12:03] <McSo> crimsun: "$"
[12:03] <ompaul> the gui code for windows - the hooks would not be there for you
[12:03] <crimsun> McSo: no, that entire command is one line
[12:04] <|37th|Trigger> Hello again :)
[12:04] <UncleD-> crimsun: it appears "pon dsl-provider" activate's my DSL connection.
[12:04] <crimsun> McSo: it will either give you a 0 or a 1
[12:04] <McSo> crimsun: including the "?" ?
[12:04] <McSo> oh
[12:04] <McSo> it gave me a 0
[12:04] <UncleD-> crimsun: how can i make sure that dsl connection activates on reboot?
[12:04] <crimsun> McSo: yes, verbatim
[12:04] <Stork> ompaul, what do you mean by the hooks?
[12:04] <crimsun> McSo: ok, good. sudo modprobe -r atmel && sudo modprobe at76c503 && ifconfig
[12:04] <|37th|Trigger> Can anyone help me with installing a game?
[12:05] <ompaul> Stork, the framework that provides the "windows gui" that the code would latch onto
[12:05] <UncleD-> crimsun: /usr/bin/pon /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider
[12:05] <UncleD-> crimsun: that commandturns activates my internet connection.
[12:05] <crimsun> UncleD-: did you install a ppoe package?
[12:05] <McSo> crimsun: that basically gave me the same as http://pastebin.com/496160
[12:05] <McSo> except the RX and TX bytes down the bottom were larger
[12:05] <|37th|Trigger> umm
[12:05] <|37th|Trigger> can someone help me please?
[12:05] <|37th|Trigger> !help
[12:06] <crimsun> McSo: I need the ifconfig output, though
[12:06] <ompaul> !anyone
[12:06] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[12:06] <Hendikins> and how much disk space should a testing installation of Breezy under VMware chew?
[12:06] <|37th|Trigger> Does anyone know why when i open the installer for unreal tournie 2004 i do not have permissions?
[12:06] <crimsun> UncleD-: sorry, a pppoe package
[12:07] <crimsun> Hendikins: slightly more than 1 GB
[12:07] <UncleD-> crimsun: all i had to do was run "pppoeconf" to configure it. no package required.
[12:07] <|37th|Trigger> please can someone help me with this? im tearing my hair out :/
[12:07] <Hendikins> crimsun: Sounds good. Just borrowing somebody else's cable and getting the DVD ISO off a local mirror. 1.14MB/sec is *so* much less painful than 3.0KB/sec!
[12:08] <JoeBlow> hey, whats up?
[12:08] <Tomcat_> |37th|Trigger: How are you opening it?
[12:08] <|37th|Trigger> Hey
[12:08] <McSo> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/496175
[12:08] <Tomcat_> |37th|Trigger: Please keep it in this channel. I will *not* read your query.
[12:08] <|37th|Trigger> oh
[12:08] <|37th|Trigger> ok
[12:08] <crimsun> UncleD-: then it should be configured already, and you don't need to do anything additional.
[12:09] <phreak97> whats a good alternative to alcohol 120% under ubuntu?
[12:09] <|37th|Trigger> welllll.. I type ./installer.sh.. and i get a message telling me i dont have permissions
[12:09] <Tomcat_> |37th|Trigger: Do "chmod u+x installer.sh" first
[12:09] <|37th|Trigger> ok.
[12:09] <Tomcat_> |37th|Trigger: You need to have permission to execute the file and that should fix it.
[12:09] <|37th|Trigger> cannot acces it :/
[12:09] <UncleD-> crimsun: its configured, but it doesn't run on bootup(ie. after reboot)
[12:10] <crimsun> McSo: please pastebin the output from ``lsusb -v''
[12:10] <GenneX> hey people
[12:10] <crimsun> UncleD-: what iface is brought up, ppp0?
[12:10] <UncleD-> yrd
[12:10] <UncleD-> yes
[12:10] <|37th|Trigger> chmod: changing permissions of `linux-installer.sh': Read-only file system
[12:10] <|37th|Trigger> root@server:/cdrom# ./linux-installer.sh
[12:10] <|37th|Trigger> bash: ./linux-installer.sh: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[12:10] <|37th|Trigger> root@server:/cdrom#
[12:10] <Tomcat_> |37th|Trigger: Weird... do "ls -l installer.sh" and post the resulting line
[12:10] <crimsun> UncleD-: you can use a preup directive in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:10] <|37th|Trigger> i just got that.
[12:10] <Tomcat_> eh
[12:10] <GenneX> how would I go about installing and running a windows application on ubuntu?
[12:11] <crimsun> UncleD-: man 5 interfaces
[12:11] <Tomcat_> |37th|Trigger: Okay I didn't know you're running this from CD... :P
[12:11] <|37th|Trigger> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root root 29627635 2004-03-04 09:42 linux-installer.sh
[12:11] <Hendikins> GenneX: You would use Wine for that.
[12:11] <Tomcat_> |37th|Trigger: In that case, do "sh installer.sh"
[12:11] <|37th|Trigger> hehe yes i am :$
[12:11] <|37th|Trigger> sorry
[12:11] <irvin> |37th|Trigger, sudo installer.sh
[12:11] <|37th|Trigger> lmaooo
[12:11] <|37th|Trigger> so easy
[12:11] <McSo> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/496179
[12:12] <|37th|Trigger> Thanks tomcat
[12:12] <|37th|Trigger> it was so easy now :(
[12:12] <Tomcat_> No problem. :] 
[12:12] <|37th|Trigger> *feels like an idiot*
[12:12] <crimsun> McSo: no wonder, it looks like firmware hasn't been uploaded to your usb device
[12:12] <Tomcat_> |37th|Trigger: Nah, it's alright, you just need to learn that stuff step by step.
[12:12] <|37th|Trigger> im new to linux
[12:12] <|37th|Trigger> first day xD
[12:13] <|37th|Trigger> well i had mepis before.. that broke my pc ;(
[12:13] <McSo> crimsun: huh? i don't get it... the card has worked fine on my windows partition.. i need to update the firmware or somthing?
[12:14] <crimsun> McSo: /you/ don't need to update it, but the device requires firmware to be uploaded to it before it'll function. That occurred behind the scenes in Windows.
[12:14] <McSo> crimsun: oh i see.. so how do i upload firmware on the device and do i already have it or do i have to search for it?
[12:15] <crimsun> McSo: it'd vastly help if you told me explicitly what hardware it is
[12:15] <McSo> crimsun: like how explicit.. what kind of details?
[12:15] <crimsun> McSo: e.g., from the bottom of the device
[12:15] <|37th|Trigger> Tomcat is lord
[12:15] <McSo> oh ok
[12:15] <|37th|Trigger> tomcat is leet
[12:15] <crimsun> I need the make & model
[12:16] <|37th|Trigger> tomcat for presidant!
[12:16] <|37th|Trigger> >:P
[12:16] <GenneX> Hendikins: ok i got wine installed, how do i go about now to get the windows application installed and working ?
[12:16] <crimsun> wine someapp.exe
[12:16] <|37th|Trigger> That's not a bad idea
[12:16] <|37th|Trigger> install wine :)
[12:16] <UncleD-> crimsun: i manually changed /etc/network/interfaces - now reboot to test it?
[12:16] <Hendikins> GenneX: Have you taken a look at the documentation in the Wiki? If not, I suggest looking for Wine related articles. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[12:17] <McSo> crimsun: FCC ID 110-0232USB611, NEW-WUSB, R-LARN-03-0001, P/N: 18-AD-U611-EU, S/N: ALW1304004063
[12:17] <crimsun> UncleD-: yes
[12:17] <McSo> woops NE-USB*
[12:17] <McSo> crimsun" need anything else?
[12:17] <crimsun> McSo: sec
[12:17] <|37th|Trigger> why do you allways put crimsun: or w/e?
[12:17] <McSo> so that he knows i'm talking to him
[12:18] <Hendikins> |37th|Trigger: Why? To indicate that we're talking to somebody in particular. It is helpful when the channel is busy.
[12:18] <|37th|Trigger> Hendikins: Ahh ok :P
[12:18] <Hendikins> (or in some cases, force of habit)
[12:18] <|37th|Trigger> xD
[12:19] <|37th|Trigger> what iso you downloading?
[12:19] <Hendikins> ubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386.iso
[12:20] <Hendikins> 3,048,179,712 bytes. Not quick, even on cable.
[12:20] <SweetestSavage> What's the difference between the DVD ISO and the CD ISO?
[12:20] <Hendikins> I'm just assuming it has more stuff.
[12:20] <encode> one DVD, several CDs
[12:21] <McSo> several cds..? i installed ubuntu with only 1 cd :\
[12:21] <SweetestSavage> encode, yeah, but I only needed to download one CD.
[12:21] <crimsun> McSo: hmm...it's possible that the driver is too old
[12:21] <Hendikins> I'm guessing it simply has more packages than the CD, which is less to grab from the net
[12:22] <Hendikins> which considering my normal connection is dial-up, is very useful to me
[12:22] <McSo> crimsun: i see.. so does that mean its basically useless in ubuntu..?
[12:23] <crimsun> McSo: not at all
[12:23] <McSo> oh
[12:23] <McSo> so what next then?
[12:23] <crimsun> McSo: did you download atmelwlandriver-3.4.1.1.tar.bz2?
[12:23] <McSo> yes
[12:24] <JarG0n> Does anyone know if Ubuntu supports the AMD Athlon 64 X 2 CPU?
[12:24] <Hendikins> It does
[12:24] <Hendikins> The Linux kernel supports both SMP and x86_64
[12:24] <Hendikins> and I'd be quite surprised if Ubuntu shipped without an SMP kernel
[12:25] <mjr> yep, should work just fine
[12:25] <JarG0n> Great! Thanks!  I'm getting an installation error after the kernal loads, indicating "Cannot access tty;" something like that.
[12:25] <mjr> you might need to manually install the SMP kernel to take advantage of the second core, not sure
[12:25] <mjr> but that's a matter of installing a package
[12:26] <JarG0n> "kernel"
[12:26] <JarG0n> yes
[12:26] <JarG0n> And I'm a newb as well so :/
[12:26] <Hendikins> and I'd expect the 32bit version to ship with an SMP kernel too
[12:26] <jenda> :)
[12:26] <Hoxzer> can I make iso image with nero?
[12:27] <Hoxzer> from the files in HDD?
[12:27] <crimsun> McSo: ok, cd to the unpacked source
[12:27] <jenda> Hoxzer: dunno about nero but in Gnomebaker, it's "create image only"
[12:27] <GenneX> Hendikins: How would I know what path to use when adding the Menu?
[12:27] <JarG0n> Are there specialized installation instructions for the Athlon 64 X 2 CPU?
[12:27] <s_spiff|AWAY> installing KDE guys... wish me ebst of luck!
[12:27] <Hendikins> GenneX: I'm not an Ubuntu user, so that I can't help you with
[12:28] <McSo> crimsun: done
[12:28] <Acidic32> is it possible to install KDE instead of gnome, using Ubuntu not kubuntu?
[12:28] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Acidic32: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:28] <crimsun> McSo: ``make clean''
[12:29] <crimsun> McSo: then ``CC=gcc-3.4 make usb buildonly=debug''
[12:29] <McSo> crimsun: it says no rule to make target 'clean'
[12:29] <crimsun> McSo: erm, you aren't in the unpacked source
[12:29] <McSo> oh woops unpacked
[12:29] <McSo> sorry
[12:29] <McSo> ok done that
[12:30] <crimsun> McSo: both make steps?
[12:30] <McSo> but the gcc one it says " cannot create directory, no such file or directory"
[12:30] <crimsun> McSo: make sure you've unpacked it in a writable directory. I used /tmp
[12:30] <crimsun> I've test-compiled 3.4.1.1 successfully, but I [obviously]  can't test it.
[12:31] <Acidic32> im on about at install time
[12:31] <cafuego> JarG0n: Just use the amd64 or i386 installer, pick an SMP kernel when done.
[12:32] <McSo> crimsun: sorry... how do i do that? (make sure the directory is writable)
[12:33] <crimsun> McSo: unpack the source in /tmp
[12:34] <JarG0n> cafuego>  Thanks!  Here is my exact error: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111578&highlight=access+tty%3B
[12:34] <JarG0n> I'll make note of that.
[12:36] <McSo> crimsun: i still get hte same error sorry
[12:36] <McSo> "mkdir: cannot create directory, ... no such file or directory. make *** [isbvmetr]  error 1
[12:37] <McSo> i have to type in sudo maybe?
[12:38] <crimsun> McSo: err, there shouldn't be any need.
[12:38] <cafuego> JarG0n: missing a device driver for your sata controller most likely.
[12:39] <crimsun> McSo: do you have a /usr/src/linux-headers-$(uname -r) ?
[12:39] <JarG0n> hrm..
[12:39] <cafuego> JarG0n: Did you boot the rescue cd and see if you can mount your disk?
[12:40] <nash> any one knows where i can get support for bttv?
[12:40] <JarG0n> nope, not yet.
[12:40] <JarG0n> which line indicates a hardware / driver problem?
[12:40] <JarG0n> ALERT! /dev/sda1 does not exist. Dropping to a Shell!
[12:40] <JarG0n> ?
[12:40] <cafuego> yes
[12:41] <cafuego> if the disk was found, /dev/sda1 should exist too.
[12:41] <JarG0n> I need to find references to these new terms.  I'm trying to dump Microsoft Windows.
[12:41] <McSo> crimsun: yeah i'm pretty sure.. i have linux-headers-2.6.12-9 and linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386
[12:41] <JarG0n> dev means development, and sda means Shaolin-do
[12:41] <JarG0n> Association
[12:41] <JarG0n> lol
[12:41] <crimsun> McSo: ok, add your user to the src group
[12:42] <JarG0n> cafuego> thanks for your help though
[12:42] <McSo> crimsun: how do i do that?
[12:42] <cafuego> dev = Device, sda = Scsi Disk 1 (sata looks like scso to the kernel), sda1 is partition 1 on /dev/sda
[12:42] <crimsun> McSo: sudo adduser $USER src
[12:42] <JarG0n> !
[12:42] <ubotu> JarG0n: Are you on ritalin?
[12:43] <McSo> crimsun: done
[12:43] <JarG0n> No, just a newb
[12:43] <cafuego> !bot
[12:43] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[12:43] <crimsun> McSo: now you need to log out and back in to continue (or just log in on a separate virtual console)
[12:43] <knubbe> anyone who knows why i cant run wolfenstein enemy territory in full screen? when i set the resolution to 800x600 the game itself gets really small in a box to my lower left.
[12:43] <brrrt> hello all
[12:43] <JarG0n> A bot just asked me if I am on Ritalin?
[12:43] <crimsun> knubbe: you probably don't have 800x600 defined as a valid resolution
[12:43] <knubbe> like if my graphics card didnt support scaling
[12:43] <McSo> crimsun: ok done
[12:44] <Katie^> is there a file on ubuntu like usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386/param.h ???
[12:44] <THE_DIRK> hellow
[12:44] <crimsun> knubbe: grep Modes /etc/X11/xorg.conf|uniq
[12:44] <UncleDz> crimsun: does ubuntu do backporting, where they fix bugs in new versions of say, php5.1.1 in the ver 5.0.5 that comes w/ ubuntu?
[12:44] <crimsun> Katie^: search using http://packages.ubuntu.com
[12:45] <THE_DIRK> how do you connect with vnc??? i have no audio :S
[12:45] <crimsun> UncleDz: very, very rarely are non-security fixes backported
[12:45] <UncleDz> crimsun, so, i should edit my sources.list
[12:45] <knubbe> crimsun: Modes           "1680x1050"
[12:45] <UncleDz> to get the latest version?
[12:46] <crimsun> McSo: ok, now you should be able to run both of those make commands
[12:46] <THE_DIRK> how do you get audio with vnc viewer?
[12:46] <HilBilly> good morning
[12:46] <McSo> ah ok
[12:46] <crimsun> knubbe: right. See how "800x600" isn't included?
[12:46] <knubbe> crimsun: yes, you're right. thank you.
[12:46] <knubbe> crimsun: is it hard adding more resolutions?
[12:46] <JarG0n> cafuego> interestingly enough, I'm not using a sata hard disk.  I'm using IDE.  Why would I get an error about sata?
[12:46] <McSo> crimsun: i get the same error
[12:47] <HilBilly> I installed the codecs from mplayer.  but when I try to play a .mp4 from totem, it won't play.  How do I link the codecs to make them available to totem?
[12:47] <crimsun> knubbe: not at all. Just ``sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'' and choose (add) 800x600 as an additional mode
[12:47] <hydroksyde> hmmm
[12:47] <THE_DIRK> can some1 tell me how I get audio with vnc viewer??
[12:47] <hydroksyde> xubuntu doesn't run well with 64MB of RAM
[12:47] <crimsun> knubbe: afterware, you'll need to restart gdm: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[12:47] <brrrt> sometimes when i logon to gnome my machine beeps in a high frequency (when playing the startsound, and later beeps at any audio output) and sometimes it completly shuts off a few seconds  after login
[12:47] <hydroksyde> compared to windows 95
[12:48] <brrrt> today i had to restart it 5 times
[12:48] <THE_DIRK> =S
[12:48] <crimsun> hydroksyde: there are even lighter window managers and environments, like ion, pwm, openbox, etc.
[12:48] <brrrt> but when it runs (with working sound) and stays
[12:48] <UncleDz> crimsun: how about changing my sources.list to see latest version of php?
[12:48] <brrrt> it ok
[12:48] <crimsun> UncleDz: you don't necessarily get the latest
[12:48] <McSo> crimsun: could it be that maybe i havn't installed gcc-3.4 correctly or somthing ?
[12:48] <hydroksyde> crimsun, maybe i'll make a "stubuntu"
[12:48] <crimsun> hydroksyde: go for it
[12:49] <Sh4d> hi
[12:49] <THE_DIRK> can some1 help me with vnc?
[12:49] <crimsun> McSo: does ``gcc-3.4 -v'' give you anything?
[12:49] <brrrt> any ideas? i have sblive and deaktivated onboardsound in bios
[12:49] <UncleDz> crimsun: i know php5.0.5 is a version on ubuntu right now
[12:49] <UncleDz> crimsun: 5.1.1 seems more recent
[12:49] <McSo> crimsun: yeah it does.
[12:49] <crimsun> UncleDz: unless there's a compelling reason to migrate to 5.1.1, I wouldn't.
[12:49] <Sh4d> :/
[12:50] <crimsun> UncleDz: "it's newer" is /not/ a compelling enough reason
[12:50] <crimsun> McSo: you /don't/ have a /usr/src/linux, correct?
[12:50] <McSo> crimsun: actually i do..
[12:51] <crimsun> McSo: that's bad.
[12:51] <crimsun> McSo: what does it point to?
[12:51] <McSo> oh.
[12:51] <McSo> usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12
[12:51] <crimsun> McSo: yeah, get rid of the /usr/src/linux symlink
[12:52] <McSo> how do i do that?
[12:52] <crimsun> sudo rm -f /usr/src/linux
[12:52] <McSo> ok done
[12:52] <crimsun> now try the two make commands again
[12:52] <THE_DIRK> can some1 help me with vnc viewer?? i have no audio =S
[12:53] <kouwe> converting a 120GB drive from NTFS to ext3 could that take forever?
[12:53] <McSo> crimsun: nope :\
[12:53] <crimsun> kouwe: depends whether you want to destructively convert it =)
[12:53] <crimsun> if you do, it takes a minute at most
[12:53] <knubbe> crimsun: i screwed up, can you give me the command again (ill trype it down this time) :)
[12:54] <knubbe> -r
[12:54] <crimsun> knubbe: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:54] <knubbe> crimsun: thank you. sorry for being a pain..
[12:54] <crimsun> knubbe: after you finish that, sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[12:54] <crimsun> McSo: erm...what commands are you using?
[12:54] <jenda> How would I make ls anly list directories?
[12:55] <jenda> *only
[12:55] <McSo> make clean and CC=gcc-3.4 make usb buildonly=debug
[12:55] <knubbe> crimson: i use kde, not gdm. i think it restarted kde automatically (at least it did now when i pressed "esc" throught the whole setup process)
[12:56] <knubbe> brb
[12:56] <bimberi> jenda: ls -l | grep ^d
[12:56] <jenda> bimberi: thx
[12:57] <bimberi> jenda: np :)
[12:57] <Hendikins> Does Breezy have any major problems with being vmwared?
[12:57] <bunga> hi what command to see my version
[12:57] <brrrt> how can it be that my computer shuts off immediatly 5 seconds after login to gnome?
[12:57] <bimberi> bunga: of ubuntu?  -  "lsb_release -a"
[12:57] <crimsun> bunga: lsb_release -r
[12:58] <crimsun> McSo: does ``make clean'' work?
[12:58] <kouwe> crimsun: well im being converting it now with gparted but its taking a 60 minutes...
[12:58] <McSo> crimsun: well when i type it i get "*.o and *.ko files Removed"
[12:58] <kouwe> well its done as i speak :$
[12:58] <crimsun> McSo: ok good.
[12:59] <ompaul> Hendikins, no it may work but hoary works with it according to a friend of mine on the phone - his job supporting vmware
[01:00] <crimsun> McSo: make sure you're executing these commands as a normal user and not with sudo
[01:00] <McSo> crimsun: yeah its not with sudo
[01:00] <Enfors> Trying to compile a program, but I seem to be missing glibc, or something. I did "apt-get install gcc", but I still don't have, for example, stdio.h What package should I install to get it?
[01:00] <crimsun> Enfors: build-essential (it's in libc6-dev)
[01:00] <hydroksyde> yeah
[01:00] <Enfors> Thanks!
[01:00] <hydroksyde> that
[01:00] <jenda> bimberi: not good... I need it to be able to export a list of directories to a text file, and that has way too much info...
[01:01] <kouwe> is there a command to see some drive information
[01:01] <kouwe> like av. space etc
[01:01] <Hendikins> ompaul: Alrighty. I just lack enough hardware to run it outside of a virtual machine - and I'm not trashing my SuSE to run it on my dualie.
[01:01] <Enfors> I did get libc6 already, didn't realise there was a libc6-dev too. Downloading it now, thanks for the info (gotta love IRC...)
[01:01] <crimsun> McSo: paste the output from ``CC=gcc-3.4 make usb buildonly=debug'' onto pastebin
[01:01] <bimberi> kouwe: df -h   ?
[01:01] <McSo> ok
[01:02] <crimsun> Enfors: you had libc6 already. Your system wouldn't function without it.
[01:02] <bimberi> jenda: hm, ok
[01:02] <ludi> when is the next version of ubuntu due to be released?
[01:03] <ompaul> Hendikins, then in theory you should have no issues with it as a guest (my words)
[01:03] <igaaa> hi, does everyone know how to make an optical audio output work with alsa ?
[01:03] <Goek> How do i know if my breeze badger update has worked?
[01:03] <crimsun> in mid-April
[01:03] <Enfors> cirmsun: Uhmm, yeah, you're right ofcourse. Now that I think of it, apt-get probably said I already had it.
[01:03] <crimsun> igaaa: cat /proc/asound/cards
[01:03] <crimsun> (pastebin)
[01:03] <Goek> How do i know if my breeze badger update has worked?
[01:03] <Hendikins> ompaul: Theory must be a nice place, everything works there :)
[01:03] <ludi> are there any good ways to lock down the ubuntu gnome environment for a classroom type setting?
[01:03] <crimsun> Goek: if ``sudo apt-get upgrade'' doesn't pull anything new
[01:03] <ludi> for example in a school library computer
[01:03] <jenda> bimberi: I would imagine the exact same as "ls -R directory > file.txt" but only listing the dirs...
[01:04] <Enfors> crimsun: Actually, I've been using Linux since 1995 (version 1.2.1 back then), but I haven't used it much recently. I'm a bit out of touch as I'm sure you can tell =)
[01:04] <ompaul> Hendikins, that has to go into the quotes db
[01:04] <Madpilot> !quotes
[01:04] <ubotu> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/quotes
[01:04] <Hendikins> ompaul: That's an old quote. I've used it for years, and certainly wasn't the first to do so.
[01:04] <doinbox> im still having a problem with my floppy and dvd-rw drives on ubuntu it keeps saying can not mount. so they are unusable what di i do to fix this plz plz plz help
[01:04] <McSo> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/496238
[01:04] <kouwe> now witch line should i put in fstab for mounting my new ext3 drive ?!
[01:04] <Goek> then it worked
[01:05] <crimsun> McSo: cd && rm -rf atmelwlandriver
[01:05] <bimberi> jenda: ls -l | grep ^d | awk '{print $8 $9 $10 $11}'          (for current directory tho)
[01:05] <crimsun> McSo: then unpack it afresh
[01:05] <UncleDz> crimsun: Why must apache2-common be installed if i want to install php5?
[01:05] <crimsun> McSo: then try the make commands again
[01:05] <kouwe> now witch line should i put in fstab for mounting my new ext3 drive ?!
[01:06] <crimsun> UncleDz: because it's dependency
[01:06] <doinbox> plz help
[01:07] <crimsun> doinbox: use pmount to mount floppy diskettes
[01:07] <crimsun> doinbox: no idea for dvdrws
[01:07] <grundo> can someone point me a good Qt/KDE web tutorial site?
[01:07] <McSo> crimsun: thank you very much :D it worked!
[01:07] <doinbox> crimsun is pmount already on ubuntu
[01:07] <crimsun> doinbox: yes
[01:07] <doinbox> what is it
[01:07] <jenda> bimberi: almost there ( ls -lR directory | grep ^d | awk '{print $8 $9 $10 $11}' > file.txt ) except that it doesn't shouw the path of the subdirs
[01:08] <crimsun> doinbox: it's a mount utility for removable volumes for nonprivileged users
[01:08] <bimberi> jenda: i knew you were going to say that :P
[01:08] <grundo> !Qt/KDE tutorial
[01:08] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, grundo
[01:08] <doinbox> crimsun can pmount do dvd drives aswell
[01:08] <hydroksyde> old people are fat!
[01:08] <crimsun> doinbox: I don't know offhand
[01:08] <doinbox> ok thankyou for your help
[01:08] <jenda> bimberi: you're a prophet... :)
[01:08] <McSo> crimsun: it finished... whats next?
[01:09] <mwe> grundo: for qt trolltech's site is great
[01:09] <grundo> ok
[01:09] <HilBilly> this old fart gives hydroksyde a sample
[01:09] <ompaul> hydroksyde, be nice - look at the COC
[01:09] <UncleDz> crimsun: how do you feel about adduser-ng - useful?
[01:09] <crimsun> McSo: ``sudo make install && sudo depmod -e''
[01:09] <ompaul> !coc
[01:09] <ubotu> I guess coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[01:09] <crimsun> UncleDz: I'm not familiar w/ it
[01:09] <ludi> are there any good ways to lock down the ubuntu gnome environment for a classroom type setting?  for example in a school library computer
[01:09] <hydroksyde> am I not allowed to make sweeping generalizations about groups of people?
[01:09] <crimsun> igaaa: please just ask here; I can't accept dcc chats.
[01:10] <McSo> it says " pcmcia, pci, bin, xllr6 bin } already exists. run #depmod -aeq after installation
[01:10] <igaaa> crimsun: here's the output from cat /proc/asound/cards: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6803
[01:10] <igaaa> ok, no problem
[01:10] <crimsun> hydroksyde: on-topic discussion, please, otherwise use #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:10] <hydroksyde> ludi, try a more restrictive window manager,
[01:10] <Spee_Der> Good morning everyone.
[01:11] <hydroksyde> ludi, like blackbox or windowmaker, or e
[01:11] <crimsun> igaaa: ok, and what's your sound issue?
[01:11] <ludi> I don't want to try a more restrictive window manager
[01:11] <crimsun> igaaa: optical-out?
[01:11] <ludi> I want gnome
[01:11] <ludi> w/ lockdown controls suitable for a school library type environment
[01:11] <hydroksyde> hmmm
[01:11] <hydroksyde> I don't know then
[01:11] <crimsun> igaaa: does ``aplay -Dplug:iec958 /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav'' produce audible sound?
[01:12] <bimberi> jenda how about "find -type d" ?
[01:13] <UncleDz> Can anyone recommend a good mailserver to use? hows courier?
[01:13] <Caius> if I install from a hoary ppc cd can I update to breezy without downloading a breezy ppc install cd?
[01:13] <|37th|Trigger> hello :)
[01:13] <crimsun> UncleDz: postfix
[01:13] <|37th|Trigger> can anyone tell me why i cant drag files too a differant folder? :/
[01:13] <crimsun> Caius: yes
[01:13] <Caius> |37th|Trigger: they hate you
[01:14] <Caius> crimsun: ta
[01:14] <|37th|Trigger> Yea i figured that was around right :P
[01:14] <UncleDz> crimsun: hows postfix compared to courier?
[01:14] <jenda> bimberi: You got it man. Danke & Merci :)
[01:14] <crimsun> UncleDz: easier to configure and higher-performance
[01:14] <ompaul> |37th|Trigger, your username does not own the files or the location that the files are being dropped to
[01:15] <bimberi> jenda: np (phew) ;)
[01:15] <McSo> crimsun: i assume i type sudo depmod -aeq ??
[01:15] <|37th|Trigger> well i cant login as root :/
[01:15] <crimsun> McSo: -e
[01:15] <McSo> -e?
[01:15] <jenda> lol
[01:15] <crimsun> McSo: as in just -e
[01:15] <McSo> oh so depmod -e
[01:16] <crimsun> McSo: the other options don't exist
[01:16] <McSo> ah ok
[01:16] <McSo> well i've done that
[01:16] <McSo> nothing happened though?
[01:16] <crimsun> that's good
[01:16] <McSo> oh ok haha
[01:16] <crimsun> McSo: so which amtel module are you supposed to load?
[01:16] <Hendikins> At least we get to the second part of installation
[01:17] <McSo> i'm pretty sure its the at76c305
[01:17] <igaaa> crimsun: the jack-output works well, with vlc, Beep, etc. However, I don't know how to make both coaxial and optical outputs work.
[01:17] <McSo> wait sorry
[01:17] <mwe> UncleDz: |37th|Trigger do you have write access to the destination?
[01:17] <McSo> i'm pretty sure its the at76c503
[01:17] <crimsun> igaaa: "jack-output"?
[01:18] <crimsun> McSo: so unload the current one you have loaded, then load the new one
[01:18] <McSo> crimsun: sorry how do i do?
[01:18] <C-O-L-T> who has installed ww2d program like google earth?????????????
[01:18] <crimsun> McSo: pastebin lsmod output
[01:19] <crimsun> I need to sleep; I've been awake for 30 hours.
[01:19] <McSo> crimsun: lol, sorry for keeping you up
[01:19] <fapeg> hi
[01:20] <igaaa> crimsun: and I didn't hear any sound neither with the jack nor the coaxial output
[01:20] <igaaa> crimsun: yes, the headphones' output
[01:20] <McSo> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/496255
[01:21] <crimsun> igaaa: did you pastebin amixer output?
[01:21] <crimsun> McSo: sudo modprobe -r at76c503
[01:21] <McSo> crimsun: nothing happened
[01:22] <crimsun> McSo: it shouldn't appear to. That's a good sign.
[01:22] <McSo> i see
[01:22] <crimsun> McSo: if something doesn't work with modprobe, it'll spew errors.
[01:22] <McSo> ah ok
[01:22] <nightwatch> hi there I cant get mp3 playing in my ubunto. I already installed amarok and download libmad
[01:22] <crimsun> nightwatch: what application?
[01:22] <nightwatch> and install libmad too
[01:22] <nightwatch> amarok
[01:23] <crimsun> nightwatch: install gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:23] <McSo> crimsun: so what next?
[01:23] <crimsun> if you're using the gstreamer engine, that is
[01:23] <crimsun> McSo: now load the module you just unloaded
[01:23] <McSo> crimsun: sorry again.. how do i do that?
[01:23] <crimsun> McSo: same command without the -r
[01:23] <crimsun> -r == remove
[01:23] <McSo> ah ok
[01:24] <McSo> yeah
[01:24] <McSo> nothing happened again, so its a good thing right
[01:24] <nightwatch> crimsun:  that packet is not in the list
[01:24] <crimsun> nightwatch: enable universe.
[01:24] <UncleDz> crimsun: do you recommend dovtecot+postfix?
[01:24] <crimsun> nightwatch: which engine are you using for amarok?
[01:25] <crimsun> UncleDz: I've heard it's a winning combination, but I can't personally vouch for it.
[01:25] <McSo> crimsun: what's next?
[01:25] <nightwatch> crimsun: crimsun GStreamer Engine
[01:25] <igaaa> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6804
[01:25] <mwe> nightwatch: I gave up gstreamer and installed amarok-xine and chose the xine engine in amarok settings. now it works fine
[01:25] <crimsun> nightwatch: then yes, you'll need to enable universe and install gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:26] <St0n3-C0l> I want to run both gnome and kde on the same box and....I updated my repos to dapper and did kubuntu-desktop it gave one condition " To remove all gnome apps and install kde apps "
[01:26] <crimsun> McSo: ifconfig
[01:26] <nightwatch> crimsun: I did it.
[01:26] <McSo> crimsun: you want me to postbin it?
[01:26] <mwe> nightwatch: I couldn't get it to work with gstreamer either
[01:27] <crimsun> igaaa: you may need to mute 'IEC958 Capture Monitor'
[01:27] <nightwatch> mwe I will try it
[01:27] <mwe> nightwatch: maybe it will work for you as well
[01:27] <crimsun> McSo: just tell me if it lists more than just lo
[01:27] <McSo> yeah after lo thheres a bunch of info like the address and netmask and tx and rx packets and bytes
[01:28] <apokryphos> McSo: any other sections, though.
[01:28] <McSo> apokryphos: sorry i don't know what you mean?
[01:28] <builder> if [ -d "${MYDIR}" ]  fails if ${MYDIR} has a space in it, even when I escape the space. How can I get around this?
[01:28] <McSo> is lo a section?
[01:28] <crimsun> McSo: it's an interface
[01:29] <McSo> ok
[01:29] <McSo> well yeah.. it basically looks exactly the same as all the other ifconfigs
[01:29] <crimsun> each interface would have TX/RX, etc.
[01:29] <McSo> ah ok
[01:29] <kestas> builder, should work
[01:29] <kestas> works here
[01:29] <crimsun> ok, then you haven't uploaded the firmware, thus it won't work
[01:29] <crimsun> McSo: follow the rest of the instructions regarding uploading the firmware
[01:30] <igaaa> crimsun: done, but I still don't hear any sound
[01:30] <CodenameKT> ls
[01:30] <nightwatch> I cant understand what is going on. I have activated universe repository ( I check it downloanding when I use aptitude) but those packets are not in the list. neither gstreamer0.8-mad or amarok-xine
[01:30] <builder> kestas, just escape the space when I define ${MYDIR} and double quote ${MYDIR} in the test right?
[01:30] <roune> somone using wlan and ubuntu here?
[01:31] <McSo> crimsun: sorry.. where are the instructions?
[01:31] <McSo> on the readme?
[01:31] <crimsun> McSo: in the unpacked source
[01:31] <crimsun> roune: I am
[01:31] <roune> what do i need to get it working? ^^
[01:31] <roune> is there some kind of package?
[01:31] <crimsun> roune: please be more precise than that
[01:31] <zyz> hi, I have trouble with xterm : Color name "black" is not defined
[01:32] <nightwatch> where is hardware compatibility list website?
[01:32] <doinbox> hey crimsun i cant find pmount anywhere can you help
[01:32] <crimsun> igaaa: cat /proc/asound/devices --> pastebin
[01:32] <crimsun> doinbox: open a Terminal and type pmount
[01:32] <redguy|work> !info gstreamer0.8-mad
[01:32] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.11-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 54 kB, Installed size: 144 kB
[01:32] <McSo> crimsun: thank you very much for all the help
[01:32] <doinbox> sorry once again but how do i open a terminal
[01:32] <roune> im sitting on my laptop, with builtin wlan, and got another computer with a wlan "dongle"? for the moment im using windows, coz i dont know how to get the wlan working on linux..
[01:33] <crimsun> doinbox: GNOME or KDE?
[01:33] <redguy|work> nightwatch: gstreamer0.8-mad is in universe. did you update your package lists?
[01:33] <McSo> bye
[01:33] <doinbox> ok ive seen that gnome thanks
[01:33] <crimsun> doinbox: Applications> Accessories> Terminal
[01:33] <doinbox> right got it
[01:33] <roune> and now i want to connect to the other computer with the wlan, and get an internet connection
[01:33] <crimsun> roune: no, I mean hardware.
[01:33] <doinbox> thanks alot man
[01:33] <eyedol59> Hello to everyone
[01:34] <hyakuhei> hi eyedol59
[01:34] <roune> oh.. ^^
[01:34] <nightwatch> redguy|work: sure, aptitude update
[01:34] <igaaa> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6805
[01:35] <crimsun> igaaa: ok, use ``aplay -Dplughw:0,4 /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''
[01:35] <eyedol59> i am trying to found a kernel that is suitable for my processor, coul anybody help me please?
[01:36] <crimsun> eyedol59: what processor?
[01:36] <redguy|work> nightwatch: no errors?
[01:36] <igaaa> crimsun: The probleme is that I want to use my external amplifier through the coaxial or optical output
[01:36] <JarG0n> Since when does Gaim support IRC?!
[01:36] <igaaa> crimsun: It gives no sound
[01:37] <crimsun> igaaa: ok, then please follow the troubleshooting steps in alsa.opensrc.org -> digital
[01:37] <eyedol59> i have a AMD 64 +3000 socket 754 processor
[01:37] <redguy|work> JarG0n: it supports IRC for quite a time
[01:37] <JarG0n> I think I missed out on that feature!
[01:37] <redguy|work> eyedol59: do you have the 64 bit version of ubuntu intalled?
[01:38] <roune> well, it says WLAN 802.11g mini-PCI Module, in the other computer i have "gigabyte (somting) usb", the internet is comming from an ADSL modem, sharing internet through ad_Hoc
[01:38] <crimsun> eyedol59: you can probably use linux-amd64-k8
[01:38] <eyedol59> thats right
[01:38] <igaaa> crimsun: ok, thank you, I'm going to do so
[01:39] <roune> so, i am not using a wireless router.
[01:40] <crimsun> roune: pastebin the output from lspci -v
[01:40] <roune> well, im using dual boot,win and linux, becouse i dont know how to get the wlan working in linux, im at the moment using windows ^^
[01:40] <Hendikins> ompaul: Thumbs up with Workstation 5.5
[01:40] <nightwatch> redguy|work: yes, cant find decoder... I think could be alsa .. I tried other distro but they were not compatible with my intel HDA audio system
[01:40] <eyedol59> how can i find out if that kernel you mencioned is suitable for my processor?
[01:41] <crimsun> roune: I can't really help you if you're not running Linux at the moment
[01:41] <crimsun> eyedol59: install it?
[01:41] <vlt> hi @all! i've the problem that the correct keyboard layout is installed under the xserver but i've no idea wehre i have to configure that for the naked console without the xserver. do you have any idea?
[01:41] <roune> but, i cant ask questions, if i dont have an internet connection.....
[01:41] <eyedol59> that is a little risky , don you think? :)
[01:42] <crimsun> eyedol59: of course not. You don't remove the currently installed kernel.
[01:42] <crimsun> eyedol59: so if the new one doesn't work, reboot and choose your current one.
[01:42] <Axioplase> Hi! I ve just upgrade my hoarty to breezy and X won t start because of an empty non executable /etc/X11/X... What am I supposed to do?
[01:42] <nightwatch> what is going on with those repositories..  even flex can be found...
[01:42] <roune> say, ive never used wlan b4 on linux, what is the first thing i should do to get it working?
[01:42] <nightwatch> and I update the packet list
[01:43] <crimsun> Axioplase: ls -l /etc/X11/X
[01:43] <UncleDz> crimsun: How do i install java sdk 1.5?
[01:43] <crimsun> UncleDz: ask the bot about java
[01:43] <crimsun> nightwatch: it seems you don't have the main repository enabled
[01:43] <UncleDz> how?
[01:43] <crimsun> !java
[01:43] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:43] <Axioplase> crimsun: it s a normal file... (plus I ve deleted it once trying a link)
[01:43] <crimsun> (like that)
[01:44] <eyedol59> mmm, okay i will try that, nevertheless i would like to know what "k8" means, because thats not how the AMD 64 processors are called,
[01:44] <crimsun> Axioplase: ...a normal file? It's supposed to be a symlink.
[01:44] <crimsun> eyedol59: that's their classification.
[01:44] <Axioplase> crimsun: it s not. What should I link it to?
[01:44] <crimsun> Axioplase: um, what is it then?
[01:44] <nightwatch> Failed to fetch http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release.gpg  Bad header line
[01:45] <nightwatch> crimsun: look this ->
[01:45] <nightwatch> Failed to fetch http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Bad header line
[01:45] <nightwatch> Failed to fetch http://br.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/source/Sources.gz  Got a single header line over 360 chars
[01:45] <crimsun> nightwatch: so either kill your proxy or use a different mirror
[01:45] <Axioplase> crimsun: it s now a normal file, as after any "touch file"
[01:45] <ompaul> Hendikins, :-)
[01:45] <nightwatch> I did not edit it
[01:45] <nightwatch> is the default
[01:45] <doinbox> crimsun i tried pmount but i dont unde3rstand stuff like that can you tell me what i need to type
[01:46] <crimsun> Axioplase: bad idea. sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/X11/Xorg /etc/X11/X
[01:46] <crimsun> Axioplase: err, hang on
[01:46] <crimsun> Dapper's path differs
[01:46] <eyedol59> okay, thank you for the assistance. Now i am going to install the kernel you recommended me. Bye bye
[01:46] <grundo> where i can find good KDE programing web tutorial?
[01:46] <katie_> How do I change the port on bittorrent on ubuntu?
[01:47] <yatesy> read the man page
[01:47] <crimsun> Axioplase: bad idea. sudo ln -sf /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg /etc/X11/X
[01:47] <doinbox> is there a beginners guide to pmount anywhere on the net
[01:48] <crimsun> doinbox: there's a man page
[01:48] <crimsun> doinbox: man pmount
[01:48] <grundo> where i can find good KDE programing web tutorial?
[01:48] <crimsun> grundo: use a Web search engine
[01:48] <apokryphos> grundo: developer.kde.org
[01:48] <grundo> thank you
[01:49] <Axioplase> crimsun: thanks... looks like xorg was reinstalled during the update...
[01:49] <s_spiff|AWAY> hey my dad just typed out a document in OpenOffice 2.0 Writer
[01:49] <doinbox> whats a man page
[01:49] <roune> this might be something to? ^^ http://perso.wanadoo.es/antlarr/tutorial/
[01:49] <s_spiff|AWAY>  and tried saving it in MS 97/200/XP Office format
[01:49] <grundo> the page developer.kde.org cannot be found
[01:50] <roune> try this:C
[01:50] <roune> http://perso.wanadoo.es/antlarr/tutorial/
[01:50] <s_spiff|AWAY>  it gave a error tht, the formatting of the documten is not in line with that of MS Office
[01:50] <s_spiff|AWAY>  is it because of the fontrs?
[01:50] <roune> http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/
[01:50] <crimsun> nap time.
[01:50] <apokryphos> grundo: it exists....
[01:51] <roune> hey, does anyone use wlan on linux, or got any ide how to get it work?
[01:52] <tabias> can someone help to change my keyboard to azerty instead of qwerty
[01:52] <doinbox> plz help me. what do i type in pmount to mount my floppy drive
[01:53] <Axioplase> hummm...  How to install Xorg when XFree is still installed ?
[01:53] <brenner> s_spiff|AWAY: what's the exact error wording?
[01:53] <C-O-L-T> albacker-: hello
[01:54] <albacker-> C-O-L-T, hi
[01:54] <C-O-L-T> albacker-: I have been waiting you for 2 days
[01:54] <brenner> tabias: what language do you speak?
[01:54] <albacker> C-O-L-T, ive been here, only that we might have been online in different hours
[01:54] <s_spiff|AWAY> umm hold on
[01:55] <doinbox> what do i type to mount my floppy drive using pmount?
[01:56] <s_spiff|AWAY> This document may contain formatting that cannot be saved in the MS Office 2000/XP file format. Do you want to save the file in this format anyway?
[01:56] <brenner> tabias: try going thru sys > prefs > k/board > layout > add
[01:56] <brenner> s_spiff|AWAY: that
[01:56] <s_spiff|AWAY> yeah?
[01:56] <brenner> is a warning
[01:56] <nightwatch> there are any similar to flex in universe ubuntu packet list?
[01:56] <brenner> sorry, pressed the enter key accidentaly
[01:56] <s_spiff>  ok.. so I go ahead and save na?
[01:57] <s_spiff> np :P
[01:57] <brenner> s_spiff: yes, but like it says, some of the content may be weird when you open it in ms office
[01:57] <nightwatch> I need flex to compile some thing
[01:57] <doinbox> what do i type to mount my floppy drive using pmount?
[01:57] <s_spiff> so basically its due to the fonts right?
[01:57] <s_spiff>  I'll have to instal;l new fonts.
[01:57] <gaz> is it bad practice to use .deb packages for hoary if im using breezy or should it be fine?
[01:58] <brenner> nightwatch: the flex package doesn't work for you?
[01:58] <brenner> s_spiff: possibly.  i'm not sure what your font setup is like
[01:58] <s_spiff> huh?
[01:58] <nightwatch> brenner: sure, but is not in packet list
[01:58] <s_spiff> default font, whatever linux installed
[01:58] <UncleDz> crimsun: ty for the help
[01:58] <brenner> nightwatch: looks like it's in main
[01:58] <brenner> nightwatch: are your sources alright?
[01:59] <katie_> how do i run bittornado after installing it
[01:59] <tabias> brenner, tried that but it keeps in qwerty don't know why I selected a azerty layout. although I'm just trying it in vmware but that shouldn't be a problem
[01:59] <brenner> s_spiff: hang on.  i'm gonna try save a doc
[01:59] <s_spiff> lol ok.
[01:59] <doinbox> what do i type to mount my floppy drive using pmount?
[01:59] <brenner> katie_: type it in a terminal
[02:00] <katie_> i did
[02:00] <doinbox> ahhhhh
[02:00] <katie_> katie@AutoBitch:~$ bittornado
[02:00] <katie_> bash: bittornado: command not found
[02:00] <katie_> katie@AutoBitch:~$ bittornado-gui
[02:00] <katie_> bash: bittornado-gui: command not found
[02:00] <nightwatch> brenner: I'm not sure anymore.. it should be, due I didnot edit it and has just installed. but when I added pt repository I get that br repositories were down... if you can, please send me an international (english or portuguese) that really works.
[02:00] <s_spiff> brenner, if I install a program, how to create a shortcut icon for it on the desktop? otherwise I'll have to go into the terminal all the time and then type out the command, which I think is sort of paionful
[02:00] <salomo> Hello! I have a dilemma with firestarter: I have two network interfaces which connect my laptop to the Internet.They are WLAN and wired ethernet. Now, is there a way to make firestarter figure out, which one is in use so it could protect the right interface?
[02:00] <brenner> s_spiff: i get it the warning too.
[02:00] <s_spiff> hehe
[02:01] <doinbox> please can some one answer me.what do i type to mount my floppy drive using pmount?
[02:01] <s_spiff> its cuz, all the linux installed fonts are not the MS office default
[02:01] <_null> doinbox, pmount -w /dev/floppy probably
[02:01] <apokryphos> katie_: do not paste in here
[02:01] <doinbox> thankyou null
[02:01] <_null> no problem
[02:02] <brenner> s_spiff: i think it's more of a general warning...compatibility with ms' document format ain't perfect
[02:02] <s_spiff> anyways, I'll be back later, dad wants to finish typing his document..
[02:02] <s_spiff> hmm ok..
[02:02] <katie_> ok
[02:02] <s_spiff>  will check it out on ms later
[02:02] <s_spiff>  cya
[02:02] <s_spiff>  and thanks
[02:02] <brenner> katie_: what package did you install the app by?
[02:02] <katie_> When I type bittornado in the terminal it says that bash: bittornado: command not found.
[02:02] <katie_> There.
[02:02] <katie_> i just did apt-get install bittornado-gui,
[02:02] <brenner> s_spiff{AWAY}: save it in oo.org's format as well (as a backup)
[02:03] <brenner> katie_: ok, does it show up in the app menu?
[02:03] <mwe> katie_: then type bittornado-gui
[02:03] <nightwatch> brenner: can you?
[02:03] <katie_> it's ok
[02:03] <mwe> katie_: or bitto<tab>
[02:03] <katie_> i didn't know there was going to be in the application menu
[02:03] <brenner> ubotu: tell nightwatch about repos
[02:04] <phreak97> ok, azureas will download to my desktop fine, but not to a folder on another partition which has exactly the same permissions
[02:04] <phreak97> i want it fixed
[02:04] <phreak97> how?
[02:04] <katie_> and when i tab it nothing comes up, or when i type in bittornado-gui same as before
[02:04] <katie_> but still it's weird, i mean i thought i could just type ittorndao and it'd work
[02:05] <mwe> katie_: dpkg -L bittornado-gui|grep bin to find the binary
[02:05] <salomo> Hello! I have a dilemma with firestarter: I have two network interfaces which connect my laptop to the Internet.They are WLAN and wired ethernet. Now, is there a way to make firestarter figure out, which one is in use so it could protect the right interface?
[02:05] <redguy|work> salomo: hrm, how about protecting both?
[02:05] <katie_> then what?
[02:06] <katie_> lol
[02:06] <brenner> katie_: no, not all apps install to the app menu.  i was just checking
[02:06] <brenner> katie_: did that command return any results?
[02:07] <katie_> erm yes, lol btcompletedirgui.bittornado
[02:07] <katie_> and 2 others
[02:07] <brenner> eh?
[02:07] <JarG0n> I think it would be more appropriate to have bittorrent's "not running" health icon use x's for the eyes to show the torrent is inactive.
[02:08] <katie_> /usr/bin/btcompletedirgui.bittornado
[02:08] <katie_>  and 2 others like that
[02:08] <salomo> redguy|work, I suppose that with firestarter you can set active only one internet interface at once.
[02:08] <JarG0n> Azureus I mean...
[02:09] <brenner> gee, that's a weird filename
[02:09] <mwe> katie_: btdownloadgui
[02:09] <katie_> danka
[02:10] <mwe> katie_: next time you log in to gnome you'll probably have a shortcut too
[02:10] <Spee_Der> Can someone tell me how to stop XINE in Ubuntu v5.10 please. The program will not respond.
[02:10] <yatesy> pkill xine
[02:10] <katie_> ahhh good
[02:10] <Hendikins> kill -9?
[02:10] <Spee_Der> Thank you yatsey.
[02:10] <brenner> or you could just do a 'killall gnome-panel' to refresh
[02:10] <katie_> i dont like having to type loads of crap just to get a program to run lol
[02:10] <katie_> lazy :(
[02:10] <yatesy> Hendikins: thats a last resort
[02:10] <brenner> katie_: it might not add one though.  do you know about smeg?
[02:11] <Hendikins> Maybe I'm just lazy - I use killall -9 first.
[02:11] <katie_> smeg?
[02:11] <katie_> no, i haven't heard of it before
[02:11] <yatesy> Hendikins: you'll run into problems eventually doing that all the time :)
[02:11] <Spee_Der> Sorry, pkill xine did not work.
[02:11] <mwe> katie_: no of course. that's one of the things a window manager should spare you, typing a lot all the time
[02:11] <apokryphos> katie_: /msg ubotu smeg
[02:11] <Hendikins> yatesy: Haven't done so in the 4 years I've been playing with Linux on the desktop, although I'm careful about just what I kill.
[02:12] <brenner> katie_: if you don't get a shortcut, you can add one yourself using smeg.  apps > sys tools > app menu editor
[02:12] <yatesy> Hendikins: just be warned, anything that caches data before writing won't have a chance to write it to disk before its killed using -9
[02:12] <yatesy> Hendikins: database servers for example
[02:12] <Spee_Der> I will study further the kill command, thank you.
[02:13] <Hendikins> yatesy: I don't tend to kill those.
[02:13] <katie_> thank you :)
[02:13] <yatesy> Hendikins: you're probably fine then :)
[02:14] <Hendikins> and I don't always send a signal 9 either (but that's another matter)
[02:14] <katie_> how do i isntall this?
[02:15] <albacker> ~java
[02:15] <katie_> i extracted the deb
[02:15] <albacker> !java
[02:15] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:15] <doinbox> im gonna kill myself linux drives me mad
[02:15] <albacker> !javadebs
[02:15] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[02:15] <cleo> whats the difference between hotplug and hal?
[02:15] <brenner> katie_: install what?
[02:15] <Hendikins> I can see I'm going to be busy doing work on the FirefoxPlugins page...
[02:15] <pinucset> one think, how can i extract a .ace?
[02:15] <doinbox> i still cant get my floppy to mount i have tried -w/dev/floppy in pmount but it says bad command
[02:15] <doinbox> plz help
[02:15] <Hendikins> Anyone want to donate some PPC hardware to me to work on Firefox docs with? :P
[02:15] <katie_> alacarte menu thing
[02:16] <cleo> !ace
[02:16] <ubotu> cleo: I don't know
[02:16] <thegladiator> ubuntu is simply great
[02:16] <CanYouHelpMePlz> thegladiator: agreed
[02:16] <Hendikins> I'm only poking at it, and I'm a bit underwhelmed *shrug*
[02:16] <doinbox> gladiator how do i mount a floppy drive in it then if it is so great
[02:16] <brenner> katie_: try out smeg 1st (previous incarnation of alacarte).  it's aready installed: apps > sys tools > app menu editor
[02:17] <St0n3-C0l> Who is using KDE 3.5 here ? :P
[02:17] <Hendikins> I'm running KDE 3.5, but not on *ubuntu
[02:17] <katie_> oh
[02:17] <katie_> lol
[02:17] <katie_> i must sound like a complete idiot.
[02:17] <doinbox> oh come on somebody must know
[02:17] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: I am
[02:18] <St0n3-C0l> I updated dapper repos and did kubuntu-install but it asked me to remove all gnome apps and install kde apps
[02:18] <thegladiator> i am on 3.4.3 , badly want to try 3.5
[02:18] <Hendikins> I compiled 3.5
[02:18] <mwe> why
[02:18] <St0n3-C0l> Is that good ?
[02:18] <JarG0n> !bot
[02:18] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[02:18] <St0n3-C0l> LOL
[02:18] <brenner> katie_: not at all :)
[02:18] <mwe> kubuntu project page has kde 3.5 for apt
[02:18] <JarG0n> ubotu: Are you on ritalin?
[02:18] <CanYouHelpMePlz> !botsnack
[02:18] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, JarG0n
[02:18] <ubotu> :)
[02:18] <JoeBlow> wow, windows 32 bit really sucks, it cant even read a sata drive properly if it has a linux partition
[02:19] <mwe> thegladiator: add the url to your sources.list to get kde 3.5
[02:19] <doinbox> how do i mount a floppy in pmount please
[02:19] <JoeBlow> so whats up?
[02:19] <brenner> weird.  adblock won't install for me
[02:19] <thegladiator> thank you
[02:19] <doinbox> i have tried -w/dev/floppy but thats not right
[02:19] <St0n3-C0l> atm I am compiling firefox 1.5 :P
[02:19] <knubbe> thegladiator: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[02:19] <mwe> thegladiator: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[02:19] <St0n3-C0l> and dun know why backports not making update of firefox 1.5
[02:19] <doinbox> i have only installed ubuntu last night so everything is where it should be
[02:20] <JoeBlow> kubuntu just looks different graphically right? like all the rest is the same?
[02:20] <Hendikins> St0n3-C0l: Fun.
[02:20] <gnomefreak> St0n3-C0l, they wont be for a while
[02:20] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: because it would break stuff
[02:20] <gnomefreak> still alot of bugs in FF1.5
[02:20] <Hendikins> At least you guys don't have to support the thing :)
[02:20] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: like 50 apps using gecko
[02:20] <brenner> JoeBlow: yep.  kde instead of gnome.  different package mgrs iirc though
[02:20] <Hendikins> and yes, a major Gecko upgrade can prove to be quite problematic.
[02:21] <brenner> but the 'engine' is the same
[02:21] <mwe> gnomefreak: they never will backport firefox1.5. It will break too much
[02:21] <strips> whats the case og ATI versus Nvidia regarding ease of driver installation?
[02:21] <gnomefreak> mwe, they had plans to
[02:21] <mwe> gnomefreak: I see
[02:21] <brenner> strips: general string i've heard is nvidia's are more successful
[02:21] <gnomefreak> mwe, backports are not official anyway :)
[02:21] <mwe> gnomefreak: It would still break
[02:21] <thegladiator> mwe, how can I download the deb ?
[02:22] <strips> brenner: i've only used nvidia myself...
[02:22] <gnomefreak> mwe, i agree but i had heard they were going to backport it but dont know where they stand on that anymore
[02:22] <thegladiator> mwe, how I go about using that link ?
[02:22] <mwe> thegladiator: add what I pasted to the end of /etc/apt/sources.list then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:22] <Huffalump> I am trying to Enable Interface for my ath0 (wifi card).  It appears to enable (green checkmark) for just a moment, like less than a second.  Then automagically reverts back to disabled (red x).  I am using a Kubuntu-64 live cd (and tried asking the friendly folks on #kubuntu with no answer).
[02:22] <thegladiator> yep
[02:22] <mwe> thegladiator: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[02:22] <St0n3-C0l> hmm
[02:22] <Hendikins> We're supposed to be releasing a Firefox 1.5.0.1 this month
[02:22] <mwe> thegladiator: put that at the end
[02:22] <thegladiator> yep
[02:23] <SweetestSavage> Hi there, I've got a problem.. when running MySQL Administrator, and I click on "User Administration", it automatically closes. This is on Breezy 5.10 AMD64 build of Ubuntu
[02:23] <St0n3-C0l> mwe;: Repo for installing 3.5 ?
[02:23] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: yeah
[02:23] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[02:23] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:23] <thegladiator> where is the sources.list directory
[02:23] <St0n3-C0l> Guess what...after dapper update Synaptic reacting very strange
[02:24] <gnomefreak> there is the repo for kde 3.5 and should tell you how to do it
[02:24] <knubbe> thegladiator: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[02:24] <St0n3-C0l> When I click on Repositories...it starts updating them :P
[02:24] <knubbe> thegladiator: please read on that url
[02:24] <St0n3-C0l> /usr/apt/sources.list
[02:24] <thegladiator> thanks
[02:24] <gnomefreak> St0n3-C0l,  dapper is broken :)
[02:24] <St0n3-C0l> it's usr or etc?
[02:24] <St0n3-C0l> no it's /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:24] <brenner> SweetestSavage: try running the app thru terminal.  it might spit out some error messages when it closes
[02:24] <mwe> gnomefreak: I think the ubuntu design is broken, not providing firfox as a seperate package, keeping the old gecko as standalone, making it easy to upgrade firfox, but that's probably just me
[02:24] <gnomefreak> /etc/apt/source.list
[02:24] <St0n3-C0l> ehe
[02:24] <Huffalump> So, my question is:  can anyone point me in the right direction to Enable my ath0 wireless network device?
[02:24] <katie_> whats the best client to play mp3s on?
[02:25] <SweetestSavage> brenner, okay thanks I'll try
[02:25] <netstar> dpkg -i automatically upgrades existing packages right?
[02:25] <St0n3-C0l> gnomefreak: I didn't update my system just updated the repos and now back on breezy repos
[02:25] <gnomefreak> mwe, i can agree with that
[02:25] <mwe> gnomefreak: I heard it will change in dapper
[02:26] <gnomefreak> mwe, im sure it will but long way to go for that
[02:26] <brenner> katie_: i like beep-media-player myself, but...
[02:26] <brenner> !players
[02:26] <ubotu> it has been said that players is Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[02:26] <cupOcocoa> I need my wireless internet to work...
[02:26] <mwe> gnomefreak: yeah
[02:26] <gnomefreak> dpkg -i <packagename> installs a .deb package
[02:26] <St0n3-C0l> katie_: For KDE 'Amarok' For Gnome Mplayer Or Totem
[02:26] <St0n3-C0l> Totem's recent update also got bugs
[02:26] <St0n3-C0l> 1.2.1
[02:26] <St0n3-C0l> play one song and when u go for another one
[02:26] <St0n3-C0l> it crashes
[02:26] <St0n3-C0l> :p
[02:26] <apokryphos> katie_: though note that you can run any kde application in gnome (and visa versa).
[02:27] <katie_> what does kde stand for? does it stand for anything?
[02:27] <katie_> lol
[02:27] <mwe> katie_: K Desktop Environment
[02:27] <katie_> ty
[02:27] <gnomefreak> apokryphos, eh any is a streach :(
[02:27] <Hendikins> no idea what the K stands for though
[02:27] <St0n3-C0l> apokryphos: Surely can but do u know how much load does it takes?
[02:27] <St0n3-C0l> K desktop environment :P
[02:27] <mwe> katie_: what K stands for is a mystery
[02:27] <gnomefreak> K stands for K
[02:27] <Perversus> buenas tardes a todos
[02:28] <gnomefreak> !es
[02:28] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:28] <katie_> my first ever experiment with liunux was with knoppix
[02:28] <katie_> then gnoppix, then i tried freebsd, then this
[02:28] <katie_> lol
[02:28] <Perversus> lol
[02:28] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: as a general rule, yes -- pretty much any. Little proccesses like kdesktop might work differently, but of course I'm presuming you wouldn't want to run KDE on GNOME
[02:28] <mwe> gnomefreak: there have been several speculations as to what the K really stands for :)
[02:28] <apokryphos> St0n3-C0l: not that slow; it just means it'd have to load some extra libs.
[02:28] <gnomefreak> apokryphos, true
[02:28] <St0n3-C0l> nobody knows :P
[02:28] <doinbox> how do i mount my floppy drive in pmount on ubuntu please will someone answer me
[02:28] <gnomefreak> i know i know Krap?
[02:29] <katie_> gnome is the little foot right?
[02:29] <mwe> gnomefreak: that's one guess yes :)
[02:29] <gnomefreak> katie_, that is the symbol yes
[02:29] <Huffalump> I prefer KDE over gnome, but not enough to get religious about it.
[02:29] <mwe> gnomefreak: or Kool
[02:29] <Throntel> Does anyone here know alot about linux?
[02:29] <gnomefreak> !someone
[02:29] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[02:30] <mwe> Huffalump: I probably shouldn't mention Linus dispites gnome and loves kde :)
[02:30] <gnomefreak> he does?
[02:30] <pl_ice> hey ya, any ideas if i make iso image with dd will that open u/d windows box?
[02:30] <mwe> gnomefreak: yeah
[02:30] <yacc> St0n3-C0l: K Desktop Environment, it's just a meaning less recursion point :)
[02:30] <kestas> he said he uses KDE over GNOME because it's more configurable
[02:30] <mwe> gnomefreak: but we shouldn't start that discussion in here
[02:30] <gnomefreak> i think KDE looks lil too much like windows :(
[02:31] <gnomefreak> mwe,  point taken :)
[02:31] <CanYouHelpMePlz> i heart gnome.
[02:31] <gnomefreak> coffee brb
[02:31] <Throntel> Well I can't get the synaptic package manager to work, when I press it the computer start working and after that it just stops and no window or anything pops up :S
[02:31] <CanYouHelpMePlz> !start distrowar
[02:31] <ubotu> CanYouHelpMePlz: I give up, what is it?
[02:31] <rickard> How do I build a IFS driver by using gcc?
[02:31] <redguy|work> !start desktopwar
[02:31] <ubotu> redguy|work: Are you smoking crack?
[02:31] <mwe> lol
[02:32] <doinbox> can some please explain to me how to mount my floppy drive in pmount please you dont understand how late i was up last night trying to figure this out. please help
[02:32] <katie_> can't you google?
[02:32] <katie_> "mount floppy drive pmount" or something
[02:32] <doinbox> katie r you talkin to me
[02:33] <doinbox> i tried googling but cant find anything straigthforward anywhere
[02:33] <netstar> is it safe to mix debian apt sources with ubuntu's?
[02:33] <mwe> netstar: no
[02:33] <knubbe> netstar: no
[02:33] <gnomefreak> doinbox, if youve been at it all night i suggest you take a good break and get back to it
[02:33] <SweetestSavage> brenner, I can't run the same program in the terminal, I tried
[02:33] <mwe> netstar: don't do it
[02:33] <redguy|work> netstar: not recommended
[02:33] <netstar> :P
[02:33] <St0n3-C0l> one thing
[02:33] <brenner> doinbox: why are you using it anyway?  no DE?
[02:33] <St0n3-C0l> why Linus preferred KDE ?
[02:33] <katie_> i would tell you, but i dont know either
[02:33] <katie_> but i dont have a floppy drive anyway
[02:33] <katie_> *shudders*
[02:33] <kessler> I just installed the nvidia drivers. However, when i use nvidia in the xorg.conf i get a black screen, and the log says something about hsync being out of range. However, if i change nvidia to nv in xorg.conf, kde starts up just fine. What could be wrong? nvidia, nvidia_agp and agpgart modules are loaded
[02:33] <gnomefreak> netstar, do it and you have a great chance of screwing ubuntu up
[02:33] <netstar> St0n3-C0l, because he's difficult.
[02:34] <doinbox> why am i using my floppy
[02:34] <St0n3-C0l> apokryphos: I think you're right
[02:34] <St0n3-C0l> LOL
[02:34] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: please dont continue that here. go to #ubuntu-offtopic. rad http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html however. but don't comment on it anymore, please
[02:34] <brenner> SweetestSavage: really? what error do you get?
[02:34] <kestas> kessler, perhaps your hsync value is out of rance?
[02:34] <netstar> GNOME is fine,  and a productive environment.
[02:34] <St0n3-C0l> alright :)
[02:34] <katie_> You know the guy that created linux, where are they from?
[02:34] <katie_> *guys
[02:34] <brenner> doinbox: no, why are you using terminal to mount one?
[02:34] <kessler> kestas: i used the settings specified in my manual to my screen (19" lcd)
[02:34] <SweetestSavage> brenner, I mean, it's not available. Like, you can run the it via terminal, but the terminal exits once you do run it
[02:34] <sjg> Got some serious issues with my x configuration, now when I first installed this machine with breezy it worked perfect. Although I dont know what I did to change it. What would be the easist way to go back to the original configuration of x? where it acutally worked? I really dont want to reinstall.?
[02:35] <netstar> plus, what does Linus know about GUI anyway?
[02:35] <doinbox> because my dvd0rw needs mounting aswell so i put my modem drivers on to a floppy disc
[02:35] <brenner> katie_: it *is* guy actually
[02:35] <mwe> sjg: you can't if you didn't make a backup
[02:35] <mwe> sjg: you'll have to reconfigure it
[02:35] <SweetestSavage> brenner, nevermind I got the terminal to stay.. it says Segmentation Fault
[02:35] <_xet> configure: error: Could not find XpmReadFileToPixmap in -lXpm.
[02:35] <katie_> I met this guy on the train once
[02:35] <brenner> SweetestSavage: ah.
[02:35] <katie_> and he said he knew the guy that created linux
[02:35] <_xet> Why do I get that when I'm trying to compile pekwm?
[02:35] <katie_> lol
[02:35] <SweetestSavage> brenner, any possible way to fix it?
[02:35] <mwe> sjg: back up what you have now and do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:35] <_xet> *configue
[02:36] <_xet> *configure :)
[02:36] <sjg> mwe: Yep, definitely didnt back it up, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg didnt work though.
[02:36] <rickard> how do I install a "install.sh" file?
[02:36] <St0n3-C0l> netstar: Yeah it is but m too desperate bout KDE 3.5 :P
[02:36] <mwe> sjg: how didn't it work?
[02:36] <brenner> doinbox: i've never used pmount.  i always used mtools
[02:36] <gnomefreak> linus created linux
[02:36] <netstar> St0n3-C0l, trust me, it sucks.
[02:36] <St0n3-C0l> ehe
[02:36] <St0n3-C0l> say anything which I don't know :P
[02:36] <doinbox> brenner what is mtools is it already installed on ubuntu
[02:36] <brenner> SweetestSavage: i'm not sure.  it could be an app bug.  have you searched the forum/s?
[02:36] <sjg> mwe, well, I ran that tool, filled in the info it asks for and still no workie :P
[02:36] <ubuntu> fpd
[02:36] <ubuntu> ss
[02:36] <ubuntu> fds.,fd
[02:36] <ubuntu> gdfg
[02:36] <SweetestSavage> brenner, no, this is a fairly isolated cause.. I'm going to try one last thing
[02:36] <ubuntu> fdg
[02:37] <ubuntu> fdg
[02:37] <ubuntu> fdg
[02:37] <mwe> sjg: sure you filled in the correct info?
[02:37] <sjg> gonnatry again :P
[02:37] <gnomefreak> doinbox, no its not already installed you have to install it and it gives you a bunch of tools to do things like write to floppy
[02:37] <St0n3-C0l> my synaptic messed up!
[02:37] <brenner> katie_: well it's possible i guess...his name is linus torvalds if you're interested
[02:37] <mwe> sjg: can't you get in to X windows at all?
[02:37] <doinbox> but how can i install it if my floppy and dvd drive wont worl
[02:37] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ubuntu about enter
[02:38] <chmod775> !fonts
[02:38] <ubotu> rumour has it, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[02:38] <brenner> doinbox: no, it's not installed by default
[02:38] <gnomefreak> doinbox, you cant install it you dont need your hardware working to install it
[02:38] <sjg> mwe: nope
[02:38] <rickard> It says "Build the IFS driver by using the gcc compiler provided by
[02:38] <rickard>    Linux (this step will make the binary module)." what should I do?
[02:38] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install mtools
[02:38] <nightwatch> hi guys I fix my problem with dependencies.. I added an testing repository from debian. to do not cause problems I disable it afer intall what I wanted
[02:38] <katie_> he asked me to write
[02:38] <katie_> in this magazine for linux users
[02:38] <katie_> why linux is better than windos
[02:38] <gnomefreak> nightwatch, thats a bad idea very bad idea
[02:39] <katie_> ew, nightwatch the movie was crap
[02:39] <mwe> sjg: if rerunning sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't help come back and I'll try to help you out
[02:39] <St0n3-C0l> which magzine ?
[02:39] <doinbox> gnomefreak my internet is not working cause my drivers are on a floppy disk so how can i get mtools on ubuntu
[02:39] <gnomefreak> people please dont use debian repos in ubuntu use ubuntu repos
[02:39] <chmod775> !firefox
[02:39] <brenner> katie_: is this your 1st distro?
[02:39] <nightwatch> gnomefreak: but I cannot get firefox, or flex in normal repositories
[02:39] <katie_> no
[02:39] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell chmod775 about ff1.5
[02:39] <gnomefreak> nightwatch, what firefox cant you get?
[02:39] <deFrysk> !info xmoto
[02:40] <kestas> doinbox, you need to know the device node of the floppy disk and the filesystem
[02:40] <nightwatch> gnomefreak: theres no packed call firefox or mozilla firefox
[02:40] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[02:40] <chmod775> gnomefreak, thanks
[02:40] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:40] <gnomefreak> chmod775, yw
[02:40] <kessler> I just installed the nvidia drivers. However, when i use nvidia in the xorg.conf i get a black screen, and the log says something about hsync being out of range. However, if i change nvidia to nv in xorg.conf, kde starts up just fine. What could be wrong? I used the settings for vsync/hsync specified in the manual. nvidia, nvidia_agp and agpgart modules are loaded
[02:41] <gnomefreak> nightwatch, ubuntu has most debian packages if not all plus their own
[02:41] <sjg> mwe: nope no work
[02:41] <brenner> is it worth upgrading to 1.5?
[02:41] <kestas> kessler, I answered you earlier but you didnt respond
[02:41] <mwe> sjg: ok. are you using the graphical login?
[02:41] <gnomefreak> no
[02:41] <sjg> mwe: looking over the logs right now
[02:41] <aeon17x> brenner: yes.
[02:41] <kestas> kessler, oh nm
[02:41] <gnomefreak> ff1.5 isnt all that stable in ubuntu
[02:41] <sjg> mwe: not right now, got no x at all
[02:41] <doinbox> kestas how do i find that info out
[02:41] <mwe> sjg: but normally?
[02:41] <kessler> kestas: i think i did answer you before. I use the settings specified in the manual
[02:41] <brenner> gnomefreak: oh.
[02:41] <kestas> kessler, so what hsync value are you using?
[02:42] <St0n3-C0l> is there any possibility I compile Firefox 1.5 over Firefox 1.07 ?
[02:42] <kestas> doinbox, google I guess
[02:42] <kestas> doinbox, I don't have a floppy but it's something like 'sudo mkdir /mnt/floppy && sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd01440 /mnt/floppy'
[02:42] <St0n3-C0l> because on removing firefox 1.07...it's asking me to remove some other apps too
[02:42] <gnomefreak> brenner, i will go as far as to say "it works" thats about it
[02:42] <kessler> kestas: let me check... 30-82
[02:42] <sjg> mwe: Yep, normally graphical login
[02:42] <brenner> gnomefreak: i see.  thanks for the heads up
[02:42] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:42] <Yango> where are the logs of Xorg located?
[02:43] <sjg> Im the only user of the system, and have it set to auto login, But I dont usually log out, Just lock the screen
[02:43] <mwe> sjg: pastebin the most recent file in /var/log/gdm/ as well as /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:43] <doinbox> oh sod it im just gonna get rid of linux its crap
[02:43] <doinbox> see ya
[02:43] <gnomefreak> if it ever becomes stable in enough in dapper they may backport it to breezy other than that i wont use it on breezy
[02:43] <Yango> thanks mwe :)
[02:43] <kestas> doinbox, bye
[02:43] <sjg> hmm pastebin..
[02:43] <gnomefreak> -in
[02:43] <CanYouHelpMePlz> so breezy is the best ubuntu has to offer at this point? i mean since dapper is in developement
[02:44] <St0n3-C0l> Is there any way out I can configure mozilla-mplayer plugin and set my http proxy ???
[02:44] <mwe> Yango: for what?
[02:44] <gnomefreak> CanYouHelpMePlz, yes breezy has the most recent working packages
[02:44] <netstar> CanYouHelpMePlz, yeah.  What are your issues?
[02:44] <kemik> St0n3-C0l:  what do you mean "configure" mozilla.mplyer?
[02:44] <Yango> Yango where are the logs of Xorg located? => mwe sjg: pastebin the most recent file in /var/log/gdm/ as well as /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:44] <gnomefreak> just install mplayer :(
[02:44] <kemik> St0n3-C0l:  and proxies are setup in firefox preferences
[02:45] <mwe> Yango: oh
[02:45] <St0n3-C0l> kemik: i wanna set http proxy for that
[02:45] <gnomefreak> !mplayer
[02:45] <ubotu> it has been said that mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[02:45] <St0n3-C0l> it's already setup
[02:45] <St0n3-C0l> but it doesn't read proxy settings from there
[02:45] <St0n3-C0l> gnomefreak: LOL it's installed already :P
[02:45] <kemik> so mplayer doesnt use the proxy settings ??
[02:45] <St0n3-C0l> yeah
[02:45] <kemik> weird
[02:45] <St0n3-C0l> mplayer plugin
[02:46] <thegladiator> mwe, i added the line to sources.list
[02:46] <sjg> mwe: figuring out how to pastebin these files easily :P
[02:46] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: I thought it'd use whatever ff is using
[02:46] <thegladiator> mwe, and did apt-get update
[02:46] <mwe> sjg: yeah
[02:46] <thegladiator> mwe, still in adept what shud I search for ?
[02:46] <mwe> thegladiator: first update
[02:46] <St0n3-C0l> mwe: mee too but it's not happening
[02:47] <mwe> thegladiator: use the terminal I don't know adept
[02:47] <thegladiator> yep
[02:47] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: weird. sounds broken
[02:47] <St0n3-C0l> normally mplayer works
[02:47] <St0n3-C0l> everything works
[02:47] <s_spiff> hello
[02:47] <St0n3-C0l> when I open firefox and click on any movie
[02:48] <mwe> thegladiator: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should get the new kde if kde is already installed
[02:48] <St0n3-C0l> it just do not detect my proxy and it tries to load directly from internet :P
[02:48] <St0n3-C0l> which is not possible :>
[02:48] <s_spiff> rraajj : u from india by any chance?
[02:48] <CanYouHelpMePlz> quick somone name a good ubuntu program.
[02:48] <St0n3-C0l> LOL
[02:48] <rraajj> s_spiff: Nope. Sorry.
[02:49] <mwe> sjg: maybe just paste grep ^EE from those files
[02:49] <irvin> CanYouHelpMePlz, nano
[02:49] <gnomefreak> good ubuntu program=ubuntu
[02:49] <CanYouHelpMePlz> lol :-p
[02:49] <zerodeth> hi
[02:49] <zerodeth> i am ne in linux
[02:49] <mwe> brb
[02:49] <CanYouHelpMePlz> wgt is cool ;-P
[02:49] <CanYouHelpMePlz> wget*
[02:49] <gnomefreak> welcome to the "fun" side zerodeth
[02:50] <St0n3-C0l> It is and now I've to remove synaptic completely and install it back
[02:50] <s_spiff> hey anyone knows where I can get more of these toys for the desktop?
[02:50] <zerodeth> anyone can help me howa can i install downloader x
[02:50] <yancheng> ls > dirlist 2>&1
[02:50] <yancheng> will direct both standard output and standard error to the file dirlist
[02:50] <St0n3-C0l> zerodeth: apt-get install d4x
[02:50] <jenda> CanYouHelpMePlz: my all time favorites are rm, mv and ls...
[02:50] <yancheng> ls 2>&1 > dirlist
[02:50] <yancheng> will only direct standard output to dirlist.
[02:50] <Yango> I'm having speed and responsiveness problems in breezy, which didn't happen before... top shows a heavy load (> 2) and no direct culprit besides Xorg. When I restart the notebook and don't start too many programs it behaves smoothly and quickly, but once I fire up one program too many, it gets sluggish and there's no way to get it back on track even closing everything
[02:50] <St0n3-C0l> or see Synaptic for d4x
[02:50] <yancheng> However, I do see "ls 2>&1 > dirlist" in some bash script. May I know what is the purpose for that?
[02:50] <CanYouHelpMePlz> jenda: and what are those?
[02:50] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install :))
[02:50] <Yango> do any of you have a clue about what/where to look for?
[02:51] <jenda> CanYouHelpMePlz: remove, move and list
[02:51] <JarG0n> Do third party sata drivers need to be loaded in Ubuntu even if sata is not being used?
[02:51] <CanYouHelpMePlz> jenda: oh lol..
[02:51] <St0n3-C0l> gnomefreak: thanks for the correction :P
[02:51] <SweetestSavage> Does anyone know of an alternative GUI MySQL administrator program to MySQL-Administrator?
[02:51] <brenner> gnomefreak: i reckon you win. :)
[02:52] <gnomefreak> :( confused JarG0n you dont have sata drives but you want to install something for them?
[02:52] <Yango> SweetestSavage: DBDesigner
[02:52] <gnomefreak> n00bs dont relize sudo is needed :( thats all i meant for fixing it
[02:52] <Yango> although that's more of a designer than an administrator :)
[02:52] <IdleOne> JarG0n>  i wouldmt think so
[02:53] <SweetestSavage> Yango, thanks
[02:53] <thegladiator> i cant open no web links from XChat
[02:54] <gnomefreak> hold down ctrl and left click the link thegladiator
[02:54] <thegladiator> i have to manually riht click on the link and click on open with konqueror
[02:54] <St0n3-C0l> thegladiator: u are from India ?
[02:54] <St0n3-C0l> XChat 2.6.0 have removed many good options
[02:54] <thegladiator> very much
[02:55] <thegladiator> how did you guess that ?
[02:55] <St0n3-C0l> ur name and ip :P
[02:55] <St0n3-C0l> ehe
[02:55] <St0n3-C0l> :>
[02:55] <thegladiator> oh :)
[02:55] <thegladiator> and you ?
[02:55] <St0n3-C0l> Paki
[02:56] <thegladiator> great :)
[02:56] <JoeBlow> phew, finally back in linux
[02:56] <St0n3-C0l> ehe :P it'll be more gr8 when Cricket series will start :P
[02:56] <thegladiator> JoeBlow, happy ?!
[02:57] <thegladiator> yeah lol :) and you know who will win dont you ? :)
[02:57] <Seveas> JoeBlow, welcome home ;)
[02:57] <St0n3-C0l> Sure it's Pakistan :P
[02:57] <thegladiator> he he :p
[02:58] <St0n3-C0l> I think u didn't saw England thrashed by Pakis :P
[02:58] <St0n3-C0l> n Shoaib :P
[02:58] <JoeBlow> thegladiator, with linux, not fucking microsoft
[02:58] <JoeBlow> Seveas, its like not having a cigg for 2 days, and finally getting one
[02:58] <St0n3-C0l> l0l
[02:58] <St0n3-C0l> i hate cigg :p
[02:59] <thegladiator> lol yeah
[02:59] <gnomefreak> i hate them too but i enjoy smoking them :)
[02:59] <Seveas> JoeBlow, hehe
[02:59] <St0n3-C0l> hahaha
[02:59] <JoeBlow> microsoft wont let me install xp 32 bit on a partition if theirs a linux partition on that sata drive
[02:59] <St0n3-C0l> u said yeah for ? thegladiator ?
[02:59] <JoeBlow> i had to install 64 bit windows for gaming, its a peice of garbage
[02:59] <JoeBlow> and i didnt like ciggarettes till i moved to europe and tried out handrolled british tobbacco
[03:00] <JoeBlow> i hate that prerolled super chopped, super dry stuff
[03:00] <St0n3-C0l> I even hate the smoke of cigg :P
[03:00] <rickard> how do I install ntfsLinux?
[03:00] <thegladiator> @joeblow , but I also smoke :(
[03:00] <CaptainMorgan> having a brainfart... what's the ident's in chmod? u , a , g , ?
[03:00] <thegladiator> so I like the comparison
[03:00] <JoeBlow> u guys never told me their was an ntfs linux!!!
[03:00] <Seveas> rickard, you can mount ntfs partitions without installing anyting...
[03:00] <thegladiator> you never asked joe
[03:00] <JoeBlow> thegladiator, my girlfriend hates me smoking more then i hate it
[03:00] <rickard> Seveas - how?
[03:01] <Seveas> CaptainMorgan, (u)ser, (g)roup, (o)thers, (a)ll
[03:01] <gnomefreak> JoeBlow, it always has been  they havent and have no plan on fixing it they said that vista will provide better 64 support but from what i have heard so far its still garbage on 64
[03:01] <JoeBlow> lol, if i could write to an ntfs drive in linux, that would make things alot easier
[03:01] <thegladiator> kaunsa shehar hain yaar ?
[03:01] <yancheng> how can i check what shell i am in now?
[03:01] <s_spiff>  hey i was checking the developers site for gnome...and they openly talk of hacking gnome...
[03:01] <Seveas> rickard, mount -t ntfs /dev/your_partition /path/to/mountpoint
[03:01] <thegladiator> lahore/karachi ?
[03:01] <jenda> JoeBlow: It's not an ntfs linux, just support
[03:01] <jenda> !ntfs
[03:01] <Seveas> s_spiff, hacking == programming
[03:01] <dbug> anyone advise to make the upgrade to dapper or is to soon ?
[03:01] <s_spiff> am i getting it wrong.. or are they seriously talking of hacking someone's desktop?
[03:01] <gnomefreak> yancheng, more than likely its bash (your default terminal)
[03:01] <thegladiator> !ntfs can be mounted in linux
[03:01] <ubotu> thegladiator: Are you smoking crack?
[03:01] <s_spiff> ouu ok
[03:01] <JoeBlow> gnomefreak, yea, i even e-mailed them, they said "its only built for server applications, everything else its not for, so will suck"
[03:01] <s_spiff>  lol..
[03:01] <St0n3-C0l> thegladiator ? ? what ya sayin
[03:02] <St0n3-C0l> shehar kiska ?
[03:02] <thegladiator> your
[03:02] <thegladiator> just asking
[03:02] <St0n3-C0l> LOL KHI :P
[03:02] <JoeBlow> jenda, yea im aware of that, im just joking, because having any data u wanna use in linux on a ntfs partition is such a pain, i spend half my day messing with the hassle
[03:02] <thegladiator> good :p
[03:02] <jenda> JoeBlow: Solution: do not use NTFS
[03:02] <St0n3-C0l> after a very long time India will play in Khi :P
[03:02] <JoeBlow> jenda, as long as u dont want to play any modern games
[03:02] <rickard> but hod do I know wich partition is my ntfs thingy?
[03:02] <grundo> !#ubuntu
[03:02] <ubotu> here
[03:03] <gnomefreak> they are saying nov 2006 now that cista will be out. im gonna suggest you do not upgrade to vista for atleast a year after (has more bugs than xp did)
[03:03] <thegladiator> yes thats true
[03:03] <Seveas> rickard, sudo fdisk -l
[03:03] <JoeBlow> rickard, go into system, administration, disks, and look aroung
[03:03] <ompaul> s_spiff, just because the closed source software world breaks the language that we speak long before they use it does not mean that they (A) understand (B) are not out to undermine us
[03:03] <gnomefreak> lol look around
[03:03] <thegladiator> around*
[03:03] <grundo> :-)
[03:03] <JoeBlow> i find if ppl are new to linux and just coming from windows, like me, its easier if u can give them a graphical rather then command line solution
[03:03] <ompaul> s_spiff, search for the new hackers dictionary online and look up the word hacker
[03:03] <St0n3-C0l> s_spiff: I used to understand that...but as days passed I learnt that HACKERS are called GURUS OF PROGRAMMING :P
[03:04] <ompaul> s_spiff, it is a word from the 50's
[03:04] <Whistler> i got a scsi scanner, and i need a driver for domex 536 scsi > pci adapter
[03:04] <Seveas> St0n3-C0l, :)
[03:04] <Whistler> where can i find it
[03:04] <JoeBlow> it matters who u talk to as to what a hacker is
[03:04] <gnomefreak> JoeBlow, most users from win unless they have woprked with DOS directly they dont have a clue what a commmand line does :(
[03:04] <JoeBlow> my cousin is a programmer, and hes like "hacking is just normaly programming" but common acceptance is hacking is malicous programing, or malicous use of someone elses network
[03:05] <rickard> Can I chose mountpoint myslef?
[03:05] <JoeBlow> gnomefreak, like all socialist nations, Microshaft nation is out to undermine and dumb down the world
[03:05] <gnomefreak> JoeBlow, thats very true
[03:05] <JoeBlow> gnomefreak, that means basiclly, Windows= Satan, Linux = Jesus
[03:05] <St0n3-C0l> JoeBlow: People used to say...we'll hack msn passwords but actually it's cracking not hacking :P
[03:05] <St0n3-C0l> LOL
[03:06] <JoeBlow> St0n3-C0l, well technically yea, but the common acceptance among ppl who arent really involved in computers just call it all hacking, so i just say ok hacking, keep it simple, cause in the end all forms of "hacking" are in a sub catagory
[03:06] <thegladiator> lets not downplay windows :) gates is a good businessman  . he tricked us well :)
[03:06] <St0n3-C0l> thegladiator: It's really cold here and even more cold in punjab so all fog :P
[03:06] <JoeBlow> thegladiator, still tricking, im dual booting :(
[03:06] <rickard> If I want to mount my ntfs partition to the "Computer" folder thingy.. so it's next to my cd how do I write?
[03:06] <thegladiator> yes I know very cold in winter !
[03:06] <St0n3-C0l> ehe
[03:07] <thegladiator> matches will be abrupted ? hopefully not
[03:07] <St0n3-C0l> gnomefreak: Who updates MS ? :P
[03:07] <JoeBlow> all we need is better game support, and windows is gone off my system, but even if i use wine, its better in windows
[03:07] <St0n3-C0l> it makes my PC slow :>
[03:07] <IdleOne> im not a big fan of Microsoft but I think that without windows most of the world would still be ignorant as to what a computer can do...Linux allows a user more flexabilty but windows did make it ( a computer ) easier to use for the masses
[03:07] <St0n3-C0l> and more buggy LOL :P
[03:07] <CaptainMorgan> Seveas, thanks... (0)
[03:07] <St0n3-C0l> thegladiator: Nah
[03:07] <St0n3-C0l> but it'll be very foggy
[03:07] <gnomefreak> the original hackers were real   hacking =changing something in a sense crackers are the malisus ones you break passwords and stuff
[03:07] <thegladiator> i see
[03:07] <JoeBlow> lol, i dunno, i thought windows was fine, untill i got into linux, and then last night i decided to game again, so i put in windows, and remembered real fast why i went to linux
[03:08] <St0n3-C0l> in Lahore u need headlights at daytime to see anything!
[03:08] <St0n3-C0l> plus showers
[03:08] <thegladiator> tuf conditions
[03:08] <JoeBlow> my real problem with windows is, the money aspect, the cost of one operating system, and then next month a new one with a new tool bar color, or a new shiny toy comes out, and its 100 bucks more
[03:08] <brenner> IdleOne: i'm with you on both accounts
[03:09] <St0n3-C0l> JoeBlow: Since I installed ubuntu back..went back to windows just for file recovery
[03:09] <IdleOne> JoeBlow>  thats why I dont like windows..the cost is rediculous
[03:09] <St0n3-C0l> well...is there any File Recovery software for Linux on Linux ?
[03:09] <JoeBlow> St0n3-C0l, i did it to play quake 2, yesterday id was down so i couldnt get the quake 2 binary
[03:09] <St0n3-C0l> thegladiator: Really
[03:09] <gnomefreak> JoeBlow,  everything that runs on microsoft (thats good) costs money  that is just one reason to not like them
[03:09] <JoeBlow> gnomefreak, if i was a rich man i wouldnt mind, but im not, so i do
[03:09] <St0n3-C0l> l0l
[03:10] <St0n3-C0l> i got a pirated windows but still MS thinks it's genuine :P
[03:10] <barongas> Anyone really good at apt problems? My apt has recently freaked out whenever it tries to install anything
[03:10] <IdleOne> gnomefreak>  thank god for open source where we can get most of if not all the good programs for windows free
[03:10] <gnomefreak> JoeBlow, even if i was rich why pay for something that you can get free that works better and has better upgrading capabilities
[03:10] <thegladiator> you cant let everything free of cost there has to be money somewhere and thats where support comes in
[03:10] <JoeBlow> St0n3-C0l, ig ot that 32 bit, but it gives me real trouble with my sata drive, so i have to use 64 bit, i can only use it 30 days then i have to reinstall
[03:10] <JoeBlow> gnomefreak, games
[03:10] <JoeBlow> gnomefreak, only reason
[03:10] <rickard> whu doesn't  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/ntfs work?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> <<<doesnt play pc games
[03:11] <kiran> could someone help me out a bit with ssh?
[03:11] <thegladiator> ask kiran
[03:11] <St0n3-C0l> JoeBlow: I am using Windows 2000 Professional so whenever it asks me for genuine advantage....:P it allows me to download anything from the site
[03:11] <St0n3-C0l> ehe
[03:11] <JoeBlow> gnomefreak, I didn tbuy a gig of ram to see how many windows of internet i could open
[03:11] <barongas> It downloads the files but then it say: W: Could not take status of the sourcecodelist <adress> -stat (2 The file or catalogue doesn't exist)
[03:11] <St0n3-C0l> we're all ready :P
[03:11] <kiran> thegladiator, i just installed ubuntu on my machine, and i'd like to acces ubuntu trough putty on my windowd machine? how should i setup the ssh server?
[03:12] <JoeBlow> i havent programmed in years
[03:12] <JoeBlow> not since highschool
[03:12] <barongas> The issue arose after fsck found problems with my drive, right after I intstalled windows on another drive
[03:12] <Seveas> kiran, apt-get install openssh-server
[03:12] <gnomefreak> barongas, can you please use pastebin to paste the output errors?
[03:12] <Seveas> done/.
[03:12] <thegladiator> as a fact , I have never used the paid windows . always been using the free one . so it really didnt matter to me , the cost I mean , and linux had to be downloaded . but still i like linux , even i MS coms free for me
[03:12] <JoeBlow> i did 2 years c++, and then i started a java class, but it was to god damn object oriented, so i just dumped it
[03:12] <barongas> gnomefreak, sure, but it's in swedish...
[03:12] <thegladiator> free one = pirated :/
[03:12] <barongas> gnomefreak, is it possible to get the output in a language most people understand?
[03:12] <JoeBlow> thats why i run English ubuntu
[03:13] <victor> irc.ubuntu-tr.com
[03:13] <St0n3-C0l> thegladiator: LOL here windows cds cost bout 30=rs :P
[03:13] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do i edit the ssh login message?
[03:13] <thegladiator> barongas, what output ?
[03:13] <gnomefreak> that doesnt help me :( ok barongas look in your sources.list file and look at very very top do you have a # infront of cdrom repo?
[03:13] <thegladiator> lol here its free :) friends !
[03:13] <St0n3-C0l> hardly half dollar :P
[03:13] <St0n3-C0l> LOL
[03:13] <St0n3-C0l> that's something diff :P
[03:13] <JoeBlow> tonight i go to my father in laws house, and put ubuntu on his system, he wanted to use mandrake, but i couldnt help him out with it, cause i only know how to use ubuntu, and odnt want to hassle
[03:13] <barongas> thegladiator, apt output
[03:13] <St0n3-C0l> I also got win98 cd mufta :P
[03:13] <roune> anyone knows anything about how to get the wlan working?
[03:13] <barongas> gnomefreak, yes
[03:14] <JoeBlow> I suppose the syntax is about the same for all Debian distros?
[03:14] <barongas> gnomefreak, 2 in fact, and it has been running perfectly for months
[03:14] <thegladiator> barongas, you can use GUI frontends for apt like adepts
[03:14] <kiran> Seveas, open 13 acces denied :s
[03:14] <ompaul> JoeBlow, well most of the others will not use sudo otherwise yes
[03:14] <St0n3-C0l> u use KDE ?
[03:14] <thegladiator> apt is nto meant for literature , it is meant for updating
[03:14] <barongas> thegladiator, Yeah I use synaptic now and then but it has the same problem
[03:14] <rickard> why doesn't  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/ntfs work? It says the mountpath doesn't exists.
[03:14] <St0n3-C0l> kiran: install openssh-server and then in putty put the ip address of ur Linux box
[03:14] <thegladiator> barongas, u neednt worry much , as long as you can get the packages installed
[03:15] <thegladiator> barongas, are you having troubles with package installation >?
[03:15] <barongas> thegladiator, I can't, it just downloads but won't install
[03:15] <gnomefreak> error 13 is a sudo error kiran sudo apt-get install ssh-server
[03:15] <ompaul> rickard, >>sudo mkdir /mnt/ntfs<<
[03:15] <gnomefreak> openssh-server
[03:15] <JoeBlow> ompaul, they use su instead right?
[03:15] <thegladiator> i see. it hangs ?
[03:15] <barongas> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[03:15] <thegladiator> barongas, ?
[03:15] <JoeBlow> ompaul, or are they straight on the root?
[03:15] <ompaul> JoeBlow, correct
[03:15] <thegladiator> which is the package ?
[03:15] <barongas> thegladiator, yes, no packages install at all
[03:15] <thegladiator> barongas, which package were you trying to ?
[03:15] <ompaul> JoeBlow, well most of them will set up a non root user except that pile called linspire
[03:16] <JoeBlow> ompaul, su, or straight on root?
[03:16] <thegladiator> have you enabled all repos ?
[03:16] <kiran> tnx gnomefreak,
[03:16] <gnomefreak> barongas, run sudo apt-get update and let me know of any errors
[03:16] <gnomefreak> yw kiran
[03:16] <JoeBlow> ompaul, i prefer sudo big time
[03:16] <roune> has anyone got the wlan working?
[03:16] <rickard> Now it says I don't have permissions to view the content in the mounted folder? :|
[03:16] <s_spiff> kiran studio?
[03:16] <thegladiator> I am on KDE
[03:16] <JoeBlow> rickard, are u trying to mount ntfs?
[03:16] <rickard> yes
[03:16] <barongas> gnomefreak, I've tried five different all the same error
[03:16] <JoeBlow> rickard, alright i can help you out, i do this every single day
[03:17] <JoeBlow> rickard, and im doing it righ tnow anyway
[03:17] <barongas> sudo apt-get update
[03:17] <JoeBlow> rickard, ok go to terminal
[03:17] <barongas> mistype
[03:17] <rickard> JoeBlow ok
[03:17] <gnomefreak> barongas, when you run sudo apt-get update it errors out witha  stat error?
[03:17] <JoeBlow> rickard, ok type out , sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:18] <barongas> gnomefreak, hmm it stops at 99% at public.planetmirror.com. I'll remove that
[03:18] <rickard> JoeBlow, yea ok
[03:18] <gnomefreak> barongas, yes do that that one gave me issues also if you have extras repo # that out
[03:18] <JoeBlow> rickard, ok sue your arrow key, and go to where it says defaults for the NTFS partition or drive
[03:18] <barongas> gnomefreak, without planetmirror it reads the lists with no problem
[03:18] <JoeBlow> rickard, use*
[03:18] <IdleOne> where would libtcl.so be located?
[03:19] <gnomefreak> barongas, can you translate the full error into english?
[03:19] <ProtectYaNeck> I can't seem to get my live cd to work on the internet
[03:19] <JoeBlow> rickard, ok wher eit says default, delete it , and type umask=0222 in its place
[03:20] <ProtectYaNeck> it says that it's enabled and it is configurable but I can't visit any websites
[03:20] <rickard> JoeBlow, wait a sec.. I don't find my ntfs drive
[03:20] <gnomefreak> ok good no errors than :))
[03:20] <JoeBlow> oh u didnt mount it yert did ya?
[03:20] <JoeBlow> rickard, oh u didnt mount it yert did ya?
[03:20] <JoeBlow> rickard, ok go to system, administration, disks, then find out harddrive, go to partitions tab, and enable all that u want to use in linux
[03:20] <rickard> i think I did
[03:20] <barongas> gnomefreak, tried an apt-get upgrade and got: dpkg: interpretation error: in file:  "/var/lib/dpkg/available" near line 26814 package "libgtk2.0-bin":
[03:20] <barongas>  newlinesymbol i field name "Name=Emulatorer"
[03:21] <gnomefreak> barongas, are you on breezy or dapper?
[03:21] <barongas> gnomefreak, breezy
[03:21] <St0n3-C0l> Breezy is like Fresh Breeze :P
[03:21] <JoeBlow> rickard, waht do u see at /etc/fstab ?
[03:21] <barongas> gnomefreak, or hoary, which one is later
[03:21] <JoeBlow> on a sweaty armpit?
[03:21] <gnomefreak> breezy is the last stable release
[03:21] <St0n3-C0l> Dapper is similar to Diaper :P
[03:22] <barongas> gnomefreak, breezy it is then
[03:22] <JoeBlow> i wanna give kubuntu a try, i think ill d/L that tonight
[03:22] <St0n3-C0l> which will trouble u every 4-5 hours :P
[03:22] <rickard> JoeBlow, something called proc, ext3, swap, cdrom and cdburner and floppy
[03:22] <vlado_> nick WebKiller
[03:22] <albacker> !java
[03:22] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:22] <gnomefreak> barongas, im not real sure why its doing that can you upgrade using notifier?
[03:22] <JoeBlow> rickard, did u do the system, administration, disks ? and enable it?
[03:23] <rickard> JoeBlow, yes. Do I need to reboot after?
[03:23] <albacker> !javadebs
[03:23] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[03:23] <barongas> gnomefreak, notifier only starts synaptic which returns the errors of apt
[03:23] <gnomefreak> barongas, sounds like a broken package but i dont really know:(
[03:23] <edusurf> hello
[03:23] <JoeBlow> rickard, no this is linux, forget about ever rebooting
[03:23] <JoeBlow> rickard, no need to here, its better here
[03:24] <edusurf> please, help me about amsn
[03:24] <gnomefreak> barongas, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   run that see if it gives same errors and let me know if the errors say to use -f or smart updater
[03:24] <barongas> gnomefreak, I'm worried that I might have some file corrupted or something since it all started after fsck forcing a hd cleanup after I installed windows on another partition
[03:24] <JoeBlow> rickard, do u see the ntfs partition within, system,administration, disks, like the name of it under the partitions tab
[03:24] <gnomefreak> barongas, that could very well be
[03:24] <Mace> 1
[03:24] <St0n3-C0l> Thankgod ! Synaptic fixed :P
[03:24] <rickard> JoeBlow, yes
[03:24] <gnomefreak> forcing is not really recommended
[03:24] <edusurf> please, help me about amsn installation
[03:24] <JoeBlow> St0n3-C0l, what was wrong with it
[03:24] <JoeBlow> rickard, can u browse it from their?
[03:24] <gnomefreak> edusurf, sudo apt-get install amsn
[03:25] <CanYouHelpMePlz> whats good about aMsn ?
[03:25] <gnomefreak> nothing
[03:25] <St0n3-C0l> I was clicking on Repositories and instead giving me options to edit repos...it was updating them :p
[03:25] <St0n3-C0l> LOL
[03:25] <rickard> JoeBlow, yes
[03:25] <JoeBlow> St0n3-C0l, lol, damn
[03:25] <barongas> gnomefreak, damn now it won't realize that I closed synaptic down and an't lock the admin dir
[03:25] <St0n3-C0l> gaim lots of gooms :-D
[03:25] <JoeBlow> rickard, ok its mounted, go back to terminal
[03:25] <gnomefreak> barongas, try reboot
[03:25] <St0n3-C0l> goods*
[03:25] <barongas> gnomefreak, got it with killall
[03:26] <barongas> gnomefreak, same error
[03:26] <gnomefreak> ok that will work too
[03:26] <rickard> JoeBlow, oks
[03:26] <St0n3-C0l> tell me the ntfs line which will allow me to access my NTFS Partition ?
[03:26] <gnomefreak> i think that file is broken the lib file
[03:26] <JoeBlow> rickard, type out exactly
[03:26] <barongas> gnomefreak, can it be possible to just replace the /var/lib/dpkg/available file with a clean one?
[03:26] <JoeBlow> rickard, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:27] <gnomefreak> barongas, dont know never done it and i dont know what else depends on it
[03:27] <edusurf> gnomefreak, after digit that command, aMSN is installed in my machine?
[03:27] <rickard> JoeBlow, ye. still doesn't see any ntfs
[03:27] <barongas> St0n3-C0l, /dev/hdzz       /wherever        ntfs    defaults
[03:27] <gnomefreak> edusurf, it should after it gets done what it does
[03:28] <St0n3-C0l> barongas: It's already on defaults
[03:28] <barongas> St0n3-C0l, in fstab
[03:28] <gnomefreak> !info amsn
[03:28] <barongas> St0n3-C0l, an it wont mount?
[03:28] <ubotu> amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB
[03:28] <gnomefreak> edusurf, you have to have universe repo enabled
[03:28] <JoeBlow> rickard, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[03:28] <barongas> gnomefreak, Hmmm... It would be a nuisance to have to reinstall ubuntu
[03:28] <St0n3-C0l> yeah
[03:28] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell edusurf about universe
[03:28] <JoeBlow> rickard, oops
[03:28] <St0n3-C0l> it's mounting
[03:28] <St0n3-C0l> but read-only
[03:28] <JoeBlow> rickard, ok do u have gaim?
[03:28] <IdleOne> can anybody help me with Tcl?
[03:28] <JoeBlow> rickard, a name for aim or yahoo?
[03:28] <barongas> St0n3-C0l, ntfs can only be ro in linux
[03:29] <goldplatedpentiu> hi every1
[03:29] <St0n3-C0l> awww
[03:29] <CanYouHelpMePlz> when will ventrilo come out with a linux client..ARG!
[03:29] <edusurf> thanks gnomefreak
[03:29] <barongas> St0n3-C0l, You can access the linux drive from windows though
[03:29] <gnomefreak> yw edusurf
[03:29] <rickard> JoeBlow, yes
[03:29] <barongas> gnomefreak, yeah thanks
[03:29] <JoeBlow> rickard, what do u have?
[03:29] <St0n3-C0l> lol
[03:29] <gaz> anyone know of any newsgroup applications equivalent to newsleecher for windows that accepts nzb files?
[03:29] <brenner> goldplatedpentiu: you're one letter short :P
[03:29] <goldplatedpentiu> i kno
[03:30] <barongas> St0n3-C0l, Need some special program though. Don't blame linux, it's windows anal secrecy problems that stops us from writing ntfs drives
[03:30] <goldplatedpentiu> im still new to this
[03:30] <brenner> :)
[03:30] <St0n3-C0l> barongas: I am not blaming Linux for that
[03:30] <barongas> St0n3-C0l, good :)
[03:30] <rickard> JoeBlow, um, i got msn
[03:31] <JoeBlow> rickard, one seocn bro
[03:31] <St0n3-C0l> well heard Kopete 3.5 is good
[03:31] <McJerry> gaz: good question
[03:31] <Hendikins> Kopete in 3.5 works
[03:31] <goldplatedpentiu> i cant seem to play mp3's wiv rythembox
[03:32] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: it's great
[03:32] <St0n3-C0l> thegladiator: is that good ?
[03:32] <Hendikins> I won't say it is the best thing since sliced bread, but it seems nice and reliable.
[03:32] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: it even has full webcam support
[03:32] <St0n3-C0l> Hendikins: I want some screenshots of it
[03:32] <Hendikins> St0n3-C0l: of what of it?
[03:32] <St0n3-C0l> Kopete
[03:32] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: why don't you just install it?
[03:32] <JoeBlow> rickard, ok bro, let me make u a room
[03:32] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: you can apt-get it with the right sources
[03:32] <brenner> goldplatedpentiu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:33] <barongas> goldplatedpentiu, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:33] <St0n3-C0l> not a bad one :P but will surely try :>
[03:33] <JoeBlow> rickard, ok join  #poobuntu
[03:33] <St0n3-C0l> low-bandwidth atm
[03:33] <ninnghizidha> how to switch to single-user-mode, please?
[03:33] <Hendikins> St0n3-C0l: http://www.hendikins.id.au/screenshots/misc/kopete-chatwindow.png
[03:33] <Huffalump> what is Kopete?
[03:33] <Hendikins> That's a random chat window
[03:33] <Brunellus>  to get hw rendering on an nvidia card, do I have to add "Option RenderAccel  True" to my xorg.conf?
[03:33] <St0n3-C0l> and not only kopete will download....a bundle of other libs will be downloaded too :P
[03:33] <Hendikins> Huffalump: multi-protocol IM client for KDE
[03:33] <mwe> ninnghizidha: You can't because it wants a root password
[03:33] <St0n3-C0l> np
[03:33] <Huffalump> oh like Gaim and Adium?
[03:33] <Hendikins> Huffalump: See http://kopete.kde.org/
[03:33] <mwe> ninnghizidha: and ubuntu doesn't set one
[03:33] <St0n3-C0l> thanks
[03:34] <mwe> ninnghizidha: however there is a workaround
[03:34] <St0n3-C0l> It used to suck before :P
[03:34] <Hendikins> Yeah, sort of like Gaim for KDE. Conceptually anyway.
[03:34] <mwe> ninnghizidha: what do you need to do?
[03:34] <St0n3-C0l> but not GAIM :P
[03:34] <Huffalump> kewl
[03:34] <St0n3-C0l> good one
[03:35] <gnomefreak> yuck at kopete :(
[03:35] <St0n3-C0l> will try
[03:35] <mwe> off topic
[03:35] <St0n3-C0l> ahh..one thing...support for proxy ???
[03:35] <qwarrior> hello there, need a bit of help
[03:35] <mwe> !helpme
[03:35] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[03:35] <St0n3-C0l> normally I've to use tsocks for every K app
[03:35] <goldplatedpentiu> thanks brenner
[03:35] <goldplatedpentiu> got it sorted
[03:36] <gnomefreak> qwarrior, ask or we cant begin to help :(
[03:36] <qwarrior> ok, just loaded 5.10 a couple of times
[03:36] <mwe> qwarrior: that's not a problem
[03:36] <qwarrior> and I didn't see where I was supposed to set up root.
[03:36] <mwe> qwarrior: you're not
[03:36] <brenner> goldplatedpentiu: yw
[03:36] <mwe> !tell qwarrior about root
[03:36] <goldplatedpentiu> i installed dual boot ubuntu wiv XP
[03:37] <St0n3-C0l> mwe: Kopete supports proxy now ?
[03:37] <gnomefreak> mwe, kind of is ubuntu only needs to be set up once :(
[03:37] <mwe> qwarrior: using sudo instead of root is the ubuntu policy
[03:37] <goldplatedpentiu> haven't bothered wiv xp yet
[03:37] <kameron> good morning.
[03:37] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: I don't know
[03:37] <mwe> St0n3-C0l: I would think so
[03:37] <St0n3-C0l> good morning pal
[03:37] <Huffalump> its like the Mac, you dont log in as root... you just get temporary root-power when you  need it.
[03:37] <St0n3-C0l> ;P
[03:37] <JoeBlow> whats the syntax for mounting a logical drive?
[03:37] <brenner> goldplatedpentiu: so i guess you're liking it so far?
[03:37] <goldplatedpentiu> yeah
[03:37] <Hendikins> St0n3-C0l: http://www.hendikins.id.au/screenshots/misc/kopete-userlist.png
[03:38] <goldplatedpentiu> was using slax b4
[03:38] <JoeBlow> !ntfs
[03:38] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[03:38] <St0n3-C0l> in previous release i used to use tsocks for everything
[03:38] <goldplatedpentiu> got bored of the constant crashing
[03:38] <gnomefreak> kopete still doesnt support chat rooms though
[03:38] <JoeBlow> whats the syntax for mounting a logical drive?
[03:38] <gnomefreak> !mount
[03:38] <ubotu> it has been said that mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[03:39] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: as in?
[03:39] <St0n3-C0l> good one hendikins
[03:39] <St0n3-C0l> thanx
[03:39] <erUSUL> !tell JoeBlow about windowsdrives
[03:39] <brenner> goldplatedpentiu: ouch
[03:39] <gnomefreak> last time i used kopete it didnt allow me to join any aim rooms
[03:39] <St0n3-C0l> KDE is developing faster than Gnome
[03:40] <Hendikins> Quite possible that Kopete simply doesn't have any front end for it
[03:40] <Jhair> St0n3-C0l: any measures to backup your claim?
[03:40] <Hendikins> St0n3-C0l: Anything else you want screenshotted?
[03:40] <St0n3-C0l> Hendikins: NO thanks
[03:40] <Hendikins> Rightio.
[03:40] <St0n3-C0l> Jhair: I feel...e.g gnome removed their own menu editor
[03:40] <St0n3-C0l> and now 3rd party menu editor is needed
[03:41] <JoeBlow> hey this guy has his drive enabled , and mounted, bet fstab doesnt find it, anyone ever seen that?
[03:41] <gnomefreak> St0n3-C0l, they did?
[03:41] <St0n3-C0l> it was said that they'll include menu editor in the newer versio
[03:41] <gnomefreak> explain please  because breezy and dapper both have menu editors
[03:41] <Hendikins> Can we move this holy war somewhere else? Like #ubuntu-offtopic? Or perhaps /dev/null?
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> Wheres the menu editor? :p
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> ive never noticed it.
[03:41] <St0n3-C0l> gnomefreak: its 3rd party editor not official gnome one
[03:42] <gnomefreak> Dr_Acemaster, in dapper or breezy?
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  5.10   ;)  *#&# the cute names.
[03:42] <gnomefreak> in system tools
[03:42] <Dr_Acemaster> I'm trying to access a windows box from ubuntu, I can ping it, but can't find it w/ file browser, how do I find it?
[03:42] <Jhair> St0n3-C0l: oh I see, that's because they don't want to confuse users :( ->http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html
[03:42] <Dr_Acemaster> or how do I access it
[03:42] <Hendikins> and I feel more comfortable with KDE3, although it may have to do that I've been using it since SuSE 8.0 was released.
[03:42] <St0n3-C0l> l0l
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> Dr_Acemaster,   I often use a samba browser tool like K3b.
[03:43] <Hendikins> er, may have to do with the fact that I've...
[03:43] <Dr_Acemaster> Dr_Willis: is that in the package manager?
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> Dr_Acemaster,  i have had some issues in the past with the gnomes  samba browing features..  but let me check.
[03:43] <Dr_Acemaster> well it worked great until I installed a switch
[03:43] <stout> under gnome do u prefer use gnomebaker or graveman?
[03:43] <St0n3-C0l> Jhair: This statement made by Linus to encourage for ...
[03:43] <Dr_Acemaster> both boxes are on the same switch
[03:43] <gnomefreak> thought k3b was a cd burnner app :(
[03:43] <Dr_Acemaster> lol @ gnomefreak
[03:43] <roune> linux and wlan, help! :D
[03:44] <gnomefreak> :)
[03:44] <Jhair> stout: I had huge problems with gnomebaker (crashes), graveman was more stable for me
[03:44] <St0n3-C0l> gnomebaker and graveman both are good
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> Dr_Acemaster,  yea.  under the gnome file manager ya can use somtning.,. Oh yea.. I ment Smb4K
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> :P
[03:44] <Hendikins> I prefer k3b to the options presented.
[03:44] <Hendikins> although I do use xcdroast occasionally
[03:44] <stout> gnome baker ist ibernated when i start burn
[03:44] <roune> plzlpz help to get my wlan working! i dont wanna keep sitting on my crappy windows :P
[03:45] <Jhair> St0n3-C0l: ...for KDE... but any way i use xfce so I don't care :)
[03:45] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell roune about wifi
[03:45] <St0n3-C0l> whats the problem now with Synaptic
[03:45] <St0n3-C0l> again that same problem
[03:45] <gnomefreak> St0n3-C0l, what problem on what ubuntu version?
[03:45] <St0n3-C0l> Breezy
[03:46] <St0n3-C0l> when I click on Repositories
[03:46] <stout> i think iits better use apt ... its cool! ( jpoke)
[03:46] <St0n3-C0l> and that thing happened few hours ago
[03:46] <Dr_Acemaster> smb4k says it's a kde samba browser, can I still use it in gnome?
[03:46] <Hendikins> Tomorrow I'm going to do some ripping in to Firefox docs on the wiki, now that I've got my vmwared Breezy
[03:46] <St0n3-C0l> instead of editing the repos it starts updating :P
[03:46] <gnomefreak> very very infomative can you be lil less general :(
[03:46] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhhhh
[03:46] <gnomefreak> hold on brb
[03:47] <St0n3-C0l> everytime I open terminal
[03:47] <brenner> Dr_Acemaster: course you can.  it will install all the kde libs it requires
[03:47] <gnomefreak> St0n3-C0l, use sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list for now it should work
[03:47] <Dr_Acemaster> brenner: thanks :)
[03:47] <brenner> Dr_Acemaster: same things the other way.  gnome apps can be used in kde
[03:47] <St0n3-C0l> i've to type : export http_proxy=http://abc:8080
[03:47] <brenner> np
[03:47] <smtkr> Is lame no longer in any of the repositories
[03:48] <St0n3-C0l> is there any way that everytime I open terminel that thing is already exported
[03:48] <brenner> Hendikins: good on you
[03:48] <gaz> where would one put commands that i wished to be performed at startup
[03:48] <smtkr> Just doing a little reading (for uni) and trying to figure out a good mp3 ripper for linux
[03:48] <St0n3-C0l> ?
[03:48] <gnomefreak> !info lame
[03:48] <ubotu> lame: (LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 3.96.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 222 kB, Installed size: 620 kB
[03:49] <gnomefreak> its in multiverse
[03:49] <Hendikins> Does anyone have any suggestions for improving the Firefox docs on the wiki? Sure, I'm going to go in with a chainsaw and do surgery, but I'm also after feedback.
[03:49] <gnomefreak> St0n3-C0l, mine worked fine
[03:49] <brenner> gaz: sys > pres > sessions maybe
[03:49] <brenner> *prefs
[03:50] <gaz> for instance when i used fedora i could use /etc/rc.local
[03:51] <Yango> what is kded?
[03:51] <roune> thanks for the link^^
[03:51] <albacker> !javareps
[03:51] <ubotu> Wish i knew, albacker
[03:51] <stout> uasaly in debian the kernel modules are in /etc/modules, its tehe same in ubuntu?
[03:51] <albacker> !javarepos
[03:51] <ubotu> albacker: What?
[03:51] <albacker> !java
[03:51] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:51] <albacker> !javadebs
[03:51] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[03:52] <brenner> stout: correct afaik
[03:52] <brenner> Yango: kded?
[03:53] <Yango> brenner: kded.
[03:53] <Yango>  kded -- triggers Sycoca database updates when needed
[03:53] <Yango> but i don't know what is Sycoca even :)
[03:54] <Yango> and it eats CPU like a prime numbers calculator
[03:54] <brenner> Yango: 1st i've heard of it. sorry.
[03:55] <pm> hello. Did any of you compile kernel on Ubuntu?
[03:55] <xester> good day
[03:56] <pm> Did anyone*
[03:56] <pm> sorry about my English :P
[03:56] <iLLf8d> morning
[03:56] <stout> its evening?
[03:57] <pm> morning? It's afternoon :P
[03:57] <iLLf8d> good evening to you then
[03:57] <thegladiator> i get this error checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
[03:57] <thegladiator> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[03:57] <thegladiator> See `config.log' for more details.
[03:57] <iLLf8d> good day!
[03:57] <thegladiator> how can I correct it?
[03:57] <iLLf8d> its night =P
[03:57] <pm> good day :)
[03:57] <brenner> thegladiator: [1]  what are you installing? [2]  install build-essential
[03:57] <stout> but its the same day?
[03:57] <pm> where are you now, iLLf8d? :)
[03:58] <Hendikins> iLLf8d: 2AM here. What do you call that? :P
[03:58] <damotor> Hi. I'm trying to use my camcoder and amsn but amsn says there's no webcam, what can I do in order to use my camcoder as a webcam?
[03:58] <thegladiator> brenner, a simple theme for kde . I do a ./configure and get this error
[03:58] <St0n3-C0l> and here it's 8:00 P.m
[03:58] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[03:58] <iLLf8d> oh I got my bad startrek movies confused I just started first contact thought it was nemisis
[03:58] <iLLf8d> nemesis even
[03:58] <stout> for me ita 16.04 or 4.04 pm
[03:58] <brenner> thegladiator: try [2] , then configuring again
[03:58] <iLLf8d> Hendikins, good day covers it all
[03:58] <pm> 3 58 pm, Warsaw time :)
[03:59] <brenner> thegladiator: since when do themes need compiling?
[03:59] <St0n3-C0l> Anybody need that plugin for kopete which is the song ur playing on amarok will be displayed on Kopete MSN's nick
[03:59] <joergd> with both "breezy" and "dapper" in /etc/apt/sources.list, how to tell apt/aptitude to use "breezy" as default but make "dapper" packets available as well?
[03:59] <thegladiator> brenner, window theme actually
[04:00] <cleo> joergd: apt-pinning, pin the release to "breezy" http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
[04:01] <Dr_Acemaster> Dr_Willis: ok installed smb4k, and it found the windows box right away, but it's not seeing any of the folders
[04:02] <thegladiator> brenner, now I get a diff error checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation
[04:02] <Kreuzfeldt> hi all
[04:02] <thegladiator> i am using kde on ubuntu
[04:02] <Pygi> gladiator: kubuntu?
[04:03] <thegladiator> kubuntu-dektop installed in ubuntu
[04:03] <St0n3-C0l> I'll install kde 3.5 tonight
[04:04] <thegladiator> how can I resolve that error ? checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3) ?
[04:04] <thegladiator> its nice stone
[04:04] <thegladiator> better than 3.4.3
[04:04] <brenner> my guess is you need libqt4-dev
[04:04] <thegladiator> lemme try
[04:04] <Hendikins> What is the equavilent of qt3-devel in the Ubuntu world?
[04:04] <St0n3-C0l> better than GNOME :>
[04:04] <St0n3-C0l> :P
[04:04] <Hendikins> and qt4 will NOT work
[04:04] <thegladiator> yeah
[04:04] <brenner> thegladiator: you might want to try out checkinstall
[04:04] <thegladiator> it wont work Hendikins  ?
[04:04] <redguy|work> !info qt3-dev
[04:05] <Hendikins> It wants Qt3 >= 3.3 < 4.0
[04:05] <St0n3-C0l> first of all i wana try kopete
[04:05] <redguy|work> !info libqt3-dev
[04:05] <St0n3-C0l> bcoz gtk apps looks weird on kde :P
[04:05] <thegladiator> so Hendikins shud i install qt4 as brenner said ?
[04:05] <Hendikins> thegladiator: You can pretty much assume that anything using Qt at the moment won't work with Qt4 properly/at all.
[04:05] <thegladiator> gaim is okay stone
[04:05] <kbrooks> ping
[04:06] <thegladiator> ah
[04:06] <Hendikins> thegladiator: Install Qt3's development packages, not Qt4
[04:06] <thegladiator> and it needs greater than 3.3 so what is the fix ?
[04:06] <thegladiator> yep
[04:06] <Hendikins> It wants Qt3 >= 3.3 < 4.0
[04:06] <Hendikins> So whatever fits the bill
[04:06] <thegladiator> whats the library ?
[04:06] <thegladiator> called?
[04:06] <Hendikins> What are you building anyway?
[04:06] <thegladiator> libqt4 ?
[04:06] <thegladiator> its a justa  window theme for kde
[04:06] <brenner> sorry for my mistake
[04:07] <JoeBlow> how do i set to beep to my default mp3 player?
[04:07] <Hendikins> Although doing a search on packages.ubuntu for qt3 will probably tell you.
[04:07] <brenner> JoeBlow: right-click on an mp3 file in nautilus > properties > open with tab
[04:08] <some_dude> hi everyone
[04:08] <Kreuzfeldt> anyone knows how to get a soundblaster audigy working on 5.10?
[04:08] <JoeBlow> brenner, thanks
[04:08] <kbrooks> some_dude, just ask
[04:08] <Xoritor> i think i may give ubuntu a shot
[04:08] <Xoritor> heard lots of good stuff about it
[04:09] <some_dude> where might i find a wxruby package ?
[04:09] <Pygi> !info wxruby
[04:09] <St0n3-C0l> Xoritor: You should :P
[04:09] <Pygi> no such package in ubuntu repos
[04:09] <pm> don't you compile kernels?
[04:09] <Xoritor> when i get my drive back from plextor i probably will
[04:09] <redguy|work> !info libqt3-mt-dev
[04:10] <brenner> Xoritor: what are you running now?
[04:10] <redguy|work> darn
[04:10] <Xoritor> FC4
[04:10] <redguy|work> !info libqt-mt-dev
[04:10] <Xoritor> some FC3
[04:10] <Xoritor> and quite a few RHEL 3 & 4 boxes
[04:10] <St0n3-C0l> FC sucks:P
[04:10] <brenner> Xoritor: so you've never used a deb based distro?
[04:11] <Xoritor> brenner, i used deb in the 90s
[04:11] <Xoritor> not since about 99 though
[04:11] <brenner> apparently they're less troublesome than rpms
[04:11] <Xoritor> hmm
[04:11] <Seveas> brenner, that's an understatement :)
[04:11] <gaz> anyone know of any good newsgroup applications similar to newsleecher for windows?
[04:11] <brenner> glad to hear i'm not wrong for once. :)
[04:12] <Xoritor> gaz nget?
[04:12] <Blissex> gaz: what do you want to do?
[04:12] <gaz> is it compatible with .nzb files?
[04:12] <joergd> cleo: thanks
[04:12] <Xoritor> i dont know what newsleecher is
[04:12] <Xoritor> no
[04:12] <gaz> no of any that are/
[04:12] <Xoritor> gaz, not that i know of
[04:12] <thegladiator> 1545 packages installed out of 17843 available
[04:13] <Xoritor> nget is easy to grab what you want nget -g alt.binaries.pictures -r '[sS] omepicture.[jJ] [pP] [gG] '
[04:14] <Xoritor> or osme thing like that
[04:14] <ccc_> gaz: there's one for kde called knzb
[04:14] <Xoritor> what is an nzb?
[04:15] <gaz> its a file which stores the location of file on newsgroups making getting them easy check out www.newzbin.com
[04:15] <Xoritor> anyone point me to a "network install" howto for ubuntu?
[04:16] <goldplatedpentiu> hi every1
[04:16] <JoeBlow> < listens to beavis and butthead theme one more time
[04:16] <Mercury> Anyone know of a simple program to convert some text (or a whole text file) from a specified charset to UTF8?
[04:16] <brenner> Xoritor: not sure if there *is* one, but a good place to look for it would be here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[04:16] <Kreuzfeldt> anyone knows how to properly set up a soundblaster audigy? please pm me :\ i just got crackling sound thats all
[04:16] <Xoritor> hmm
[04:17] <stout> good bye people
[04:17] <goldplatedpentiu> i can confirm that ubuntu is the best free OS ive seen so far
[04:17] <jonathon> Does anyone know how to install KDE along with gnome on ubuntu?
[04:17] <Blissex> jonathon: on the wiki.
[04:17] <brenner> goldplatedpentiu: awesome :)
[04:17] <goldplatedpentiu> the support is great
[04:17] <jonathon> Thank you Blissex :)
[04:17] <Blissex> jonathon: something like 'apt-get install kde-desktop'
[04:18] <Xoritor> anyone have permissions to edit the wiki?
[04:18] <pm> Kreuzfeldt, did you call me? :)
[04:18] <Xoritor> found a typeo
[04:18] <Xoritor> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OnNFSDrive
[04:18] <iLLf8d> goldplatedpentiu, everyones been waiting for your confirmation =P
[04:18] <brenner> jonathon: install kubuntu-desktop, then choose kde from the sessions menu at login
[04:18] <Xoritor> wroten?
[04:18] <Xoritor> first like
[04:18] <jonathon> t/y
[04:18] <Xoritor> err
[04:18] <goldplatedpentiu> :-p
[04:18] <Xoritor> first line
[04:18] <Mercury> Ah, there we go.
[04:18] <Darky469> does  anyone  knows  how  to  install codeweavers-crossover-pro-4.2.sh
[04:18] <boxerboy29> well i could really do without the black background :(
[04:19] <kameron> Darky469, i don't know, i don't think it's a free program.
[04:19] <goldplatedpentiu> WiFi was a bit ov a git 2 get workin
[04:19] <bubblenut> Hi, yesterday I could connect to my PSP fine and transfer files to and from it, today it's getting mounted as a readonly filesystem, any ideas why this may be?
[04:19] <tbw> I've got a P4 3.6ghz machine, is it capable of throttling?
[04:20] <C-O-L-T> albacker: ?
[04:20] <Blissex> bubblenut: usually filesystems are mounted RO when they have been uncleanly mounted, so try running fsck
[04:20] <JoeBlow> tbw, its capable of kicking ass
[04:20] <brenner> boxerboy29: bg in what?
[04:20] <goldplatedpentiu> i would really like a wifi signal meter though
[04:20] <s_spiff{AWAY}> whats throttling?
[04:20] <JoeBlow> s_spiff, i dunno, i think its intel talk
[04:21] <s_spiff{AWAY}> :P
[04:21] <ChrisC> hello ... is vncviewer on the Gnome menu somewhere and I'm just missing it (default Ubuntu 5.10 install)
[04:21] <tbw> JoeBLow: What what I want to do is monitor the temperature of the CPU zone and the case zone... but I can't find a utility to do that... does the stock kernel not come with lmsensors?
[04:21] <St0n3-C0l> gnomefreak: well your idea of "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" didn't worked for me
[04:21] <JoeBlow> tbw, no clue bro, but im sure their is something
[04:21] <gnomefreak> St0n3-C0l, you couldnt edit it?
[04:22] <goldplatedpentiu> does any1 kno if konfabulator has a linux version
[04:22] <gnomefreak> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list is the command to edit the sources list
[04:22] <gnomefreak> after that you save close than run sudo apt-get update
[04:23] <goldplatedpentiu> also how do i get folding@home on ubuntu 5.10
[04:23] <alekandr> skype depends on libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2); however:
[04:23] <alekandr>   Version of libqt3c102-mt on system is 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3.
[04:23] <ChrisC> goldplatedpentiu: search ubuntuforums for boinc info, I did it
[04:23] <alekandr> :(
[04:24] <goldplatedpentiu> ChrisC: I will
[04:24] <gaz> are there any cd/dvd burning apps similar to windows nero?
[04:24] <s_spiff> anyone has installed KDE on their Ubuntu?
[04:24] <goldplatedpentiu> KDE has 1
[04:24] <s_spiff>  last time i did it, the whole look and feel of GNOMe changed!
[04:24] <goldplatedpentiu> dunno how
[04:24] <ChrisC> goldplatedpentiu: and don't settle for a script-based install, do it via synaptic; forum will have threads discussing this
[04:25] <s_spiff>  the very menu items, the cons became larger!
[04:25] <JoeBlow> gaz, GnomeBaker is really basic, but pretty cool
[04:25] <goldplatedpentiu> ChrisC: cool
[04:25] <brenner> s_spiff: how'd you install it?
[04:25] <ChrisC> is vncviewer on the Gnome menu somewhere and I'm just missing it (default Ubuntu 5.10 install)
[04:25] <gaz> JoeBlow, does it do everything ya need it too?
[04:25] <s_spiff> synaptic.
[04:25] <brenner> ChrisC: no vnc apps are installed by default afaik
[04:25] <Xoritor> how well does ubuntu handle the x86_64 issues?
[04:26] <Riwers> anyone here tried the os Zeta ?
[04:26] <s_spiff>  i just installed the KDE metapackage ..thats what the forums called it
[04:26] <JoeBlow> gaz, for me, it burns basics
[04:26] <Xoritor> Riwers, isnt that BeOS renamed?
[04:26] <Riwers> yes it is
[04:26] <s_spiff> what BeOS?
[04:26] <s_spiff>  another linux distro?
[04:26] <Xoritor> I tried BeOS long ago but not lately
[04:26] <Xoritor> no
[04:26] <goldplatedpentiu> !!!!! Im trying 2 install updates
[04:26] <ubotu> goldplatedpentiu: Are you smoking crack?
[04:26] <iLLf8d> s_spiff, a dead os
[04:26] <ChrisC> xvncviewer is installed ...
[04:27] <s_spiff> ohh ok
[04:27] <goldplatedpentiu> and it sayes a macillous client may b evesdropping
[04:27] <Xoritor> BeOS is was a completely different thing
[04:27] <iLLf8d> s_spiff, the resurrection isn't going very well
[04:27] <bubblenut> Blissex:I've just run fsck but I'm not sure what it's trying to tell me
[04:27] <Xoritor> Riwers, ever tried AtheOS
[04:27] <iLLf8d> s_spiff, s/resurrection/attempted resurrection
[04:27] <Xoritor> it has a spinoff now too
[04:27] <goldplatedpentiu> Ubotu: no giv it up years ago
[04:27] <ubotu> goldplatedpentiu: Bugger all, i dunno
[04:27] <s_spiff> what? iLLf8d
[04:27] <goldplatedpentiu> sod it
[04:27] <Xoritor> there is another one called inferno that i have been looking at
[04:28] <Xoritor> its kinda cool
[04:28] <ompaul> goldplatedpentiu, it is a bot - and I would not be worried about that message
[04:28] <s_spiff> haha
[04:28] <poningru> hey guys how much does /boot usually take?
[04:28] <ompaul> goldplatedpentiu, unless you are in an internet cafe
[04:28] <bubblenut> This is what the output of fsck looks like http://pastebin.com/496418
[04:28] <Blissex> poningru: a few dozen MB at most
[04:28] <goldplatedpentiu> no home network
[04:28] <Xoritor> poningru, /dev/sda1             101M   18M   78M  19% /boot
[04:28] <burks> exit
[04:28] <burks> logout
[04:28] <s_spiff>  brenner , any clue what to do to avoid that mess?
[04:29] <burks> quit
[04:29] <ompaul> poningru, mine is - but I would suggest about 100 megs min for it 23M     /boot
[04:29] <Xoritor> poningru, not too much really ;-)
[04:29] <goldplatedpentiu> betta check 4 open ports
[04:29] <poningru> 100 mb sounds good then
[04:29] <poningru> thanks guys
[04:29] <goldplatedpentiu> F*****g nieghbors trying to nick free net again
[04:29] <bubblenut> How do I get the exit code of a command?
[04:29] <brenner> s_spiff: recommended way is to install kubuntu-desktop, then choose kde from the sessions menu at login
[04:29] <gnomefreak> why cant i find good gui irc cleint for windows (freE)
[04:30] <ompaul> gnomefreak, X-Chat
[04:30] <Xoritor> goldplatedpentiu, put them in a dmz and snoop everything they do... print out a "usage" bill and put it in ther mail box
[04:30] <s_spiff> umm, but then I would have to download GNOME
[04:30] <gnomefreak> looking for a different one
[04:30] <gnomefreak> im on xchat
[04:30] <brenner> ompaul: it has a usage limit though iirc
[04:30] <s_spiff>  which again would create the same problem!
[04:30] <SirKillalot> do you know a free STUN server?
[04:30] <goldplatedpentiu> nah iv got unlimited 4meg net
[04:30] <poningru> goldplatedpentiu: share the wealth then dude
[04:30] <Xoritor> goldplatedpentiu, bah... they can pay for it, so you dont have to pay as much
[04:30] <Xoritor> ;-)
[04:30] <bubblenut> gnomefreak: gaim?
[04:31] <poningru> goldplatedpentiu: yeah ask them if they can share the subscription costs
[04:31] <Xoritor> if i offer thats one thing... if they steal its another
[04:31] <goldplatedpentiu> if only i knew how to kill his laptop
[04:31] <Xoritor> hahahaha
[04:31] <gnomefreak> no rather have a "real" client not a multi client
[04:31] <poningru> goldplatedpentiu: join me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:32] <tbw> I need to be able to monitor my CPU temperature.... anyone know what I need to do>>
[04:32] <brenner> s_spiff: why would kubuntu-desktop install gnome?
[04:32] <Xoritor> can i go too?
[04:32] <Xoritor> heheh
[04:32] <gnomefreak> wanted to try ice chat but cant find download working anywhere
[04:32] <brenner> tbw: i just do: 'cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature''  there are tools out there though iirc
[04:32] <CanYouHelpMePlz> wow my printing issue was not due to ubuntu at all, was due to dirty ink cartridges, (the black one) i'm sorry ubuntu!
[04:33] <brenner> obviously i don't type all that, i have a bash alias set up
[04:33] <tbw> iirc?
[04:33] <CanYouHelpMePlz> irssi
[04:34] <tbw> brenner: there is nothing in that directory
[04:34] <brenner> tbw: if i remember correctly
[04:34] <ompaul> tbw, if I recall correctly there is iirc if iirc
[04:34] <tbw> yeah
[04:34] <tbw> Thanks.
[04:34] <brenner> tbw: not sure then.  i got that file on default install
[04:34] <tbw> Hrm...
[04:34] <tbw> I wonder what I am doing wrong.
[04:35] <grundo> !GNU
[04:35] <ubotu> grundo: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:35] <tbw> ACPI: Processor [CPU1]  (supports 8 throttling states)
[04:36] <grundo> !OpenGL
[04:36] <ubotu> grundo: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:36] <grundo> !yes
[04:36] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, grundo?
[04:36] <CanYouHelpMePlz> ubuntu uses HT right?
[04:36] <tbw> Yeha
[04:36] <grundo> HT?
[04:36] <tbw> I wonder if I'm using the wrong kernel imagine
[04:36] <CanYouHelpMePlz> seems like it did.
[04:36] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Hyper Threading
[04:36] <CanYouHelpMePlz> on p4's
[04:36] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: I believe the standard kernel has that option, yes
[04:37] <spacey_ki> you have to turn it on with the ht=on bootparamater
[04:37] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: option? how do i see if it'senabledthen
[04:37] <spacey_ki> and you need an SMP kernel
[04:37] <brenner> tbw: search the forum for 'temperature monitors'
[04:37] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do i see if ubuntu is using my hyper threading?
[04:37] <spacey_ki> CanYouHelpMePlz, well if you didn't turn it on, its off
[04:37] <tbw> brenner: well, I thought lm-sensors would do it
[04:37] <grundo> When the new ubuntu is going to release?
[04:37] <spacey_ki> and if its on you see two cpu's
[04:37] <spacey_ki> grundo, april
[04:38] <grundo> ok
[04:38] <CanYouHelpMePlz> spacey_ki: hmm how do i check to see if 2 cpus?
[04:38] <spacey_ki> CanYouHelpMePlz, system monitor
[04:38] <george_> How can I get Ubuntu to run Media Player 10?
[04:38] <gnomefreak> grundo, april 20th
[04:38] <grundo> :-)
[04:38] <brenner> tbw: and no luck?
[04:38] <CanYouHelpMePlz> spacey_ki: where is it in system monitor?
[04:38] <grundo> Even better
[04:38] <brenner> tbw: there are gui frontends to that iirc
[04:38] <spacey_ki> CanYouHelpMePlz, cpu tab?
[04:39] <spacey_ki> resources tab
[04:39] <brenner> george_: why would you want to?
[04:39] <CanYouHelpMePlz> only one.
[04:39] <CanYouHelpMePlz> !ht
[04:39] <ubotu> No idea, CanYouHelpMePlz
[04:39] <spacey_ki> CanYouHelpMePlz, so its off
[04:39] <CanYouHelpMePlz> hmm, can anyone point me in the direction of how to turn it on?
[04:39] <spacey_ki> CanYouHelpMePlz, search the wiki
[04:39] <grundo> :)
[04:39] <spacey_ki> its quite easy. just install smp kernel and add a bootparamter
[04:40] <tr00nd> Hi! does anyone here know if its possible to set the charset to an iso charset when mounting vfat devices with pmount?
[04:40] <brenner> bye george
[04:40] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: just cat /proc/cpuinfo frome the terminal
[04:40] <grundo> !ubotu
[04:40] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[04:40] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: see what it shows
[04:40] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: yeai see
[04:41] <tbw> brenner, : yeah says no sensors found
[04:41] <bubblenut> YAY! Thanks Blissex, PSP back up and running :)
[04:41] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: see two processors?
[04:41] <Dr_Fate> bin2iso?
[04:41] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: no
[04:41] <spacey_ki> mwe, no he doesn't
[04:41] <brenner> tbw: can't help you further sorry.  never gone far with it
[04:41] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: get a smp kernel then
[04:41] <tbw> well thanks anyway
[04:41] <Blissex> bubblenut: no probs. BTW, can you give some details on the connection? Thinking of buying a PSP for myself...
[04:42] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: how do i do that
[04:42] <djtrip> tes.hookedon-irc.net
[04:43] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: install it from synaptic or command line
[04:43] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: what would command line be?
[04:43] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: what linux image do you have now? eg dpkg -l|grep linux-image
[04:44] <gnubien> hi, ubuntu actually power's off my pc on shutdown; where to find the acpi commands that power off a pc on shutdown in ubuntu?
[04:44] <CanYouHelpMePlz> ii  linux-image-2.6.12-10-386              2.6.12-10.25           Linux kernel image for version 2.6.12 on 386
[04:44] <CanYouHelpMePlz> is the first one.. then the others are lower.
[04:44] <rickard> How do I unzip *.rar files in Linux?
[04:45] <Blissex> gnubien: it is in the kernel...
[04:45] <Blissex> rickard: 'unrar-nonfree'
[04:45] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: what's your processor?
[04:45] <brenner> rickard: you don't unzip, you unrar ... with unrar. :)
[04:45] <gnubien> Blissex: dang, hoping to get the acpi command to power off so i could use it with slackware
[04:45] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: pentium 4 3.0ghz /w HT
[04:45] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: http://pastebin.com/496435
[04:45] <Blissex> gnubien: and usually poweroff works better with APM
[04:45] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: sudo apt-get install linux-image-686-smp then
[04:46] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: check my pastebin so you know what i have
[04:46] <Zen> what is the command to install a package in a .tar.gz again?
[04:46] <ves> rickard: 'unzip' :)
[04:46] <grundo> make install
[04:46] <yatesy> read the INSTALL/README files
[04:46] <rickard> I don't find any manual for unrar syntax
[04:46] <grundo> Zen
[04:46] <gnubien> Blissex: know the command to power off with apm? or where i could find it and what its name is?
[04:46] <brenner> isn't the smp kernel for dual processor systems?
[04:46] <Blissex> gnubien: the command is always 'halt', but that just calls the kernel to power off. Then the kernel can either invoke the APM or ACPI BIOSes/drivers to power off. It is potluck.
[04:46] <ves> rickard: sorry, unrar rather. you don't unzip rar files but unrar em
[04:46] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz:  you want the 686 optimized kernel with smp support
[04:46] <Zen> grundo: there's a way to do it w/o extracting it first though I thought
[04:47] <ves> rickard: sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[04:47] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: so sudo apt-get install linux-image-686-smp then ?
[04:47] <gnubien> Blissex: ok, i see the sequence you mentioned
[04:47] <Blissex> gnubien: powering off is something that often does not work even is MS Windows...
[04:47] <kameron> how do i change my *default* browser.. so stuff doesn't open in konq, but mozilla when i'm in kde?
[04:47] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: yeah. then pastebin dpkg -l|grep linux-image again before you reboot
[04:47] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: ok
[04:48] <Blissex> kameron: KDE control centre, Components, choose the browser components.
[04:48] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: ok it's dling might be a minute it's like 60mb
[04:48] <gnubien> Blissex: ok, ubuntu live cd power's off my pc but havent figure out how to do it in slackware
[04:48] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: all right
[04:48] <rickard> ves: it says the package is unavaiable
[04:48] <kameron> how do i change my *default* browser.. so stuff doesn't open in konq, but mozilla when i'm in kde?
[04:48] <Blissex> gnubien: naaa, it could be that one is using a kernel version that is different from the other, or that one uses APM and the other ACPI, or whatever.
[04:48] <mwe> gnubien: probably gotta fiddle with apm
[04:49] <kameron> sorry, didn't mean to paste again.
[04:49] <ves> rickard: you might need to update your repositories, have you tried using:
[04:49] <ves> rickard: you might need to update your repositories, have you tried using: 15:49 < mwe> gnubien: probably gotta fiddle with apm
[04:49] <kameron> Blissex, thanks
[04:49] <ves> 15:49 < kameron> sorry, didn't mean to paste again.
[04:49] <CanYouHelpMePlz> kameron: in prefferred applications
[04:49] <kameron> ves: :P
[04:49] <gnubien> Blissex: ok, thanks for the info, will look into apm and acpi more
[04:49] <gnubien> mwe: ok, thanks
[04:49] <ves> oops, damn middle click
[04:49] <rickard> ves: whats that?
[04:49] <ves> rickard: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80295
[04:50] <brenner> rickard: you need to enable the multiverse repo
[04:50] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: http://pastebin.com/496440
[04:51] <grundo> hwo long it takes to install Qt open source version, im running it now and it seems to take lot of time!
[04:51] <jenda> Anyone know how to transcode from DVD iso image?
[04:51] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: it doesnt look like the one you had me download is for p4's if i'm not being stupid?
[04:51] <grundo> qt-x11-opensource-src-4.1.0
[04:51] <grundo> version
[04:52] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: what?
[04:52] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: http://pastebin.com/496440
[04:52] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: it says for celerons/pII/PIII but not p4 ?
[04:52] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.12 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP
[04:53] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: in my pastebin it doesn't show that
[04:53] <Zen> what do you call those nifty meters that are built-in to a desktop that shows like CPU and RAM usage, etc?  I want one
[04:53] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: that's because it's cut at the end
[04:53] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: try apt-cache search linux-image-686-smp
[04:53] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: ii  linux-image-686-smp                    2.6.12.16.1           Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/
[04:54] <CanYouHelpMePlz> thats how mine looks
[04:54] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[04:54] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: I don't understand that.
[04:54] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: ok, what do i do now to enable HT i got that installed.
[04:54] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: it is for p4 though
[04:55] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: just install it
[04:55] <prxq> i want to install ubuntu on a computer which already has slackware installed (which uses lilo). Will the install CD honour that and use lilo too?
[04:55] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: it is
[04:55] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: reboot?
[04:55] <Pygi> prxq: nop, it wont :P it will install grub
[04:55] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: try what I said and tell me what it says
[04:55] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: apt-cache search linux-image-686-smp
[04:55] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: the grep thing?
[04:55] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: apt-cache search linux-image-686-smp
[04:55] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: i did, it shows up correctl
[04:55] <prxq> Pygi: hm...
[04:55] <CanYouHelpMePlz> pete@LinuxBox:~$ sudo apt-cache search linux-image-686-smp
[04:55] <CanYouHelpMePlz> linux-image-686-smp - Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.
[04:56] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: because dpkg by default cuts the end off long lines
[04:56] <brenner> Pygi: you *can* install lilo iirc.  select go back during the installation and it comes up with a menu.  i recall seeing 'install lilo' there
[04:56] <Pygi> breener: might be....
[04:56] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: i used apt-get install to get that smp kernal, so do i just reboot now?
[04:56] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: is the old kernel still in grub in case you for some reason can't boot the new kernel?
[04:56] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: how do i check?
[04:56] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: though that would not be likely to happen
[04:57] <scanwinder> ive installed the flash plugin for opera and im not getting any sound in it, i think its because im using alsa, anyone know how to make it work with alsa?
[04:57] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: pastebin /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:57] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: http://pastebin.com/496457
[04:58] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: good the old kernel is there
[04:58] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: ok, reboot?
[04:58] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: now reboot into the new one and cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:58] <rickard> "The package unrar-nonefree is not avaiable, but another package points to it."  What does that mean?
[04:58] <CanYouHelpMePlz> User interaction required! A new version of the Linux kernel has just been installed. We strongly  recommend that your machine is restarted as soon as possible to complete the system update.
[04:58] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: ok
[04:58] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: I'll be gone for 5-10 mins though
[04:58] <prxq> Pygi: how would it react if slackware used grub too?
[04:58] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: ok no problemo
[04:58] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: brb
[04:58] <katie_> How can I extract.rar ?
[04:59] <brenner> rickard: it means you still haven't enabled multiverse
[04:59] <rickard> brenner: how do I enable multiverse?
[04:59] <brenner> katie_: install unrar-nonfree from multiverse
[04:59] <Pygi> prxc: it is supposed to work....
[04:59] <brenner> ubotu: tell rickard about repos
[04:59] <katie_> what's multiverse
[04:59] <brenner> rickard: check your pms
[05:00] <Pygi> prxq: not sure tho, I use slackware for 8-9 years
[05:00] <Pygi> prxq: but I never dared to install anything else on that machine :)
[05:00] <katie_> mn
[05:00] <katie_> thanks
[05:00] <brenner> ubotu: tell katie_  about repos
[05:00] <brenner> heh
[05:00] <grundo> hi katie!
[05:01] <katie_> hey :p
[05:01] <grundo> :-)
[05:01] <brenner> this page explains it i think: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[05:01] <rickard> brenner, I've done that
[05:02] <poningru> wtf there are girls in here?
[05:02] <brenner> rickard: did you reload/update?
[05:02] <Pygi> prxc: but you can install lilo as well if I am not mistaken in ubuntu in menu
[05:02] <rickard> brenner, yea
[05:02] <katie_> no
[05:02] <katie_> im a man
[05:02] <katie_> *rolls eyes*
[05:03] <kameron> prxc: if you need help with lilo, i'm running it.
[05:03] <brenner> rickard: paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to a pastebin
[05:03] <scanwinder> can someone help me get sound working in the linux flash plugin? i think im having problems because im using alsa rather than oss
[05:04] <Augustus-> could someone help me ?
[05:04] <Katie^> bbs
[05:04] <Katie^> movie
[05:04] <Pygi> !patience
[05:04] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[05:04] <thoreauputic> !tell scanwinder about dmix
[05:04] <Augustus-> im having some problems with the X server
[05:04] <Katie^> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/bloodylamer/bastardly-photos/0505/album6/nicole-richie01280503.jpg :(
[05:05] <rickard> brenner, ok.. but what is a pastebin?
[05:05] <kameron> nicole's gross.
[05:05] <brenner> !pastebin
[05:05] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:06] <jono> hi all
[05:06] <thegladiator> i have this source with me , can I make a deb from it ?
[05:06] <jono> is the monthly ubuntu wallpaper still going?
[05:06] <Pygi> gladiator: yup
[05:06] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[05:06] <rickard> brenner, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6808
[05:06] <gnomefreak> pong :)
[05:06] <thegladiator> how can this b e doe
[05:06] <gnomefreak> im here kind of
[05:06] <thegladiator> done*
[05:06] <Katie^> kameron, she never used to be
[05:06] <Pygi> freaky: not the entire command index :DDD
[05:07] <Katie^> until she decided to go all bulemic
[05:07] <thegladiator> like its got this ./configure stuff etc...
[05:07] <thegladiator> but doesnt work
[05:07] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:07] <thegladiator> trying to make a deb and try
[05:07] <kameron> Katie^: #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:07] <gnomefreak> im trying to figure this out
[05:07] <thegladiator> Pygi, could you tell me hwo ?
[05:07] <brenner> jono: i think it's been debunked.  but have you checked out the ubuntu-calendar* packages?
[05:07] <Pygi> gladiator: you can visit #motu and/or #motu-school for that
[05:07] <spike> hi
[05:07] <spike> can anybody help me with font/utf8/unicode issues?
[05:07] <Pygi> gladiator: but install-check makes simple packages as well
[05:08] <thoreauputic> checkinstall
[05:08] <Pygi> that :p
[05:08] <grundo> hwo long it takes to install Qt open source version, im running it now and it seems to take lot of time!
[05:08] <thegladiator> checkinstall shud be run in the command line ?
[05:08] <thoreauputic> !info checkinstall
[05:08] <ubotu> checkinstall: (installation tracker), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.5.3-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 132 kB
[05:08] <gnomefreak> checkinstall is the bomb of installers
[05:08] <martalli> Can I ask for some help on setting up a Netgear MA401 802.11b pcmcia card with kubuntu 10.5 on my thinkpad 600e?
[05:08] <gnomefreak> 10.5?
[05:09] <Pygi> lol  :)
[05:09] <Pygi> freaky: will the index be done today?
[05:09] <martalli> 5.10 lol I'm just starting out here
[05:09] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: you here?
[05:09] <djtrip> anybody know what 128 mb in kb is
[05:09] <gnomefreak> this is not cool :((( im scared to do anything
[05:09] <thegladiator> thegladiator@thegladiator:~/Desktop/crystal-vista$ checkinstall
[05:09] <thegladiator> bash: checkinstall: command not found
[05:09] <Pygi> djtrip: 128*1024
[05:09] <thoreauputic> !128 * 1024
[05:09] <brenner> rickard: sorry my firefox seems to be acting up.  could someone check out his sources.list? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6808  he's trying to enable multiverse to get unrar-nonfree
[05:09] <ubotu> 131072
[05:09] <Pygi> freaky: why is that????
[05:09] <Xoritor> how easy is it to "upgrade" from one release to the next?
[05:09] <thegladiator> how to check install ?
[05:09] <thegladiator> !checkinstall
[05:09] <ubotu> methinks checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[05:09] <Pygi> xoritor: it's easy :P
[05:10] <djtrip> 1024
[05:10] <gnomefreak> thegla	you have to install it first
[05:10] <AJA-> hi, how can i use cpuburn installed with synaptic?
[05:10] <CanYouHelpMePlz> 131072
[05:10] <thegladiator> ah
[05:10] <thegladiator> and then ?
[05:10] <gnomefreak> pygi	im playing with boxedirc
[05:10] <grundo> !hwo long it takes to install Qt open source version, im running it now and it seems to take lot of time!
[05:10] <thegladiator> it doesnt install :)
[05:10] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, grundo
[05:10] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: I'm here
[05:10] <thegladiator> when I use ./configure
[05:10] <Pygi> freaky: ah, well :P
[05:10] <thegladiator> some weird erors come up
[05:10] <Pygi> freaky: so, will you be able to write that index?
[05:10] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: ok i'm back on smp kernel, will i need to select it manually in grub each time or will it remember my choice?
[05:10] <gnomefreak> pygi	yes i will have it for you tonight or tomorrow
[05:11] <Pygi> freaky: k
[05:11] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: have you installed build-essential and the required -dev packages ?
[05:11] <thegladiator> yes
[05:11] <thegladiator> i have
[05:11] <thegladiator> this is regarding kwin or something
[05:11] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: I think it'll be the default. btw just uninstall the old kernel if this one works
[05:11] <thegladiator> is that an additional package or something ?
[05:11] <enrico> Hello.  In breezy, it seems that the package xfonts-chinese-big installs the fonts in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc instead of the new /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc.  Is there a way of making use of the xfonts-chinese-big fonts anyway?
[05:11] <gnomefreak> apt-get build-dep <packagename>
[05:11] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: ok, how doi do that
[05:12] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: sudo apt-get remove <name of old kernel image>
[05:12] <enrico> soryr, xfonts-intl-chinese-big
[05:12] <gnomefreak> brb i can barely see
[05:12] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: how do i find the old name?
[05:12] <enrico> and xfonts-intl-chinese
[05:13] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: dpkg -l|grep linux-image and look for the old one
[05:13] <rickard> brenner, what is supposed to be written in sources.list?
[05:13] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: what does cat /proc/cpuinfo show now?
[05:13] <brenner> rickard: looks like it's missing ... replace the contents with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[05:13] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: it shows 2 processors :-)
[05:13] <brenner> rickard: you can do that with: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:14] <AJA-> how can i use cpuburn installed with synaptic?
[05:14] <brenner> rickard: save and close, then sudo apt-get update
[05:14] <thegladiator> !paste
[05:14] <ubotu> paste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:14] <martalli> My MA401 is seen in cardctl, and iwconfig reports that eth0 is configured with  the proper essid, and the correct wep key is in place
[05:14] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: it told me to re-run lilo? can i just ignore since i dont use lilo ?
[05:14] <rickard> brenner, ok
[05:15] <martalli> Somehow, I am not connecting...system settings-> network show two little red antennas "eth0 192.168.0.52 dhcp enabled wireless network device"
[05:15] <thegladiator> ./configure works well , make doesnt work well ! I am tryin to install a window theme for kde . the error is like this --- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6809
[05:15] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: yeah ignore that
[05:15] <thegladiator> i cant understand the cause of the error
[05:15] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: the grub part finished fine
[05:16] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: now i need to reinstall vmware i guess, since i got a new kernel.
[05:16] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: you need to rebuild the modules at least
[05:16] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: how do i do that?
[05:16] <brenner> thegladiator: you poor bastard.  you still doing that? :-/
[05:16] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: I think sudo vmware-config.pl is sufficient
[05:17] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: I not 100% positive though
[05:17] <thegladiator> shudnt I be doing that ?
[05:17] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[05:17] <CanYouHelpMePlz> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[05:17] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: what would i put for that.
[05:18] <gnomefreak> vmware isnt GNU?
[05:18] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: oh you need kernel headers for your kernel. abort and install that
[05:18] <lucasvo> gnomefreak: of course not...
[05:18] <brenner> thegladiator: no, i meant i feel sorry for you
[05:18] <Blissex> gnomefreak: no, it is proprietary, and was sold for lik $800m recently.
[05:18] <lucasvo> gnomefreak: it is commercial
[05:18] <Blissex> gnomefreak: have a look at QEMU
[05:18] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: ok, how do i ge the headers.
[05:18] <thegladiator> brenner, you neednt be . i know to take care of myself
[05:18] <dylan_> why isnt there a Thesaurs option in OpenOffice.org yet, like there is in Microsoft Office?
[05:18] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-686-smp
[05:19] <thegladiator> brenner, neither me
[05:19] <thoreauputic> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:19] <gnomefreak> lucasvo, im not even sure what it is i asked the bot he gave me link to download it and he says you did pay for it right?
[05:19] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: ok installed,
[05:19] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: what do i put when it asks me where they are?
[05:19] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: maybe you need the kernel source as well. not sure
[05:19] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: try just enter
[05:19] <thegladiator> its gone to trash anyway , it doesnt deserve a place in my system if its that difficult
[05:20] <martalli> Is there a better place to ask a question about my wireless card?
[05:20] <mwe> !wireless
[05:20] <ubotu> somebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:20] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: yes worked, thanks a ton!
[05:20] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: great
[05:20] <brenner> i think you're missing this file: libacl.la  you can use packages.ubuntu.com to do a file search
[05:20] <martalli> thank you
[05:20] <brenner> thegladiator: ^^
[05:21] <thoreauputic> !find libacl.la
[05:21] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: i cant believe i didnt have HT running all this time, like 1 1/2 - 2 months .. and i didn't know it.. heh ubuntu never seemed slow enough to notice i guess :-)
[05:21] <alekandr> How does one go abouts editing gnomes, right click menu? I want to add gnome-terminal to it?
[05:21] <brenner> mwe: if you aren't getting an answer, keep coming back.  the wireless gurus might just be asleep
[05:21] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: heh. not everything is optimized for it anyway though but still :|
[05:21] <kemik> alekandr:  sudo apt-get intall open-nautilus-terminal
[05:22] <alekandr> CanYouHelpMePlz: How did you get ht to run?
[05:22] <thegladiator> brenner, thanks , now i'll have to take it fromthe trash :D
[05:22] <alekandr> kemik: thanks :)
[05:22] <brenner> hehe
[05:22] <thoreauputic> !tell alekandr about openterm
[05:22] <thoreauputic> !openterm
[05:22] <ubotu> To add the right-click option for opening gnome-terminal on Breezy, install the  nautilus-open-terminal package
[05:22] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: better then not having it
[05:22] <CanYouHelpMePlz> alekandr: i installed the kernel
[05:22] <alekandr> oh man, no sudo for me :)
[05:22] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: sure
[05:22] <Zen> I'll tell you what I really love about linux versus windows--when you "kill" something it actually dies
[05:23] <gnomefreak> no sudo on ubuntu?
[05:23] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: you didn't even have a 686 optimized kernel :)
[05:23] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: so i should be all good to go now?
[05:23] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: yeah
[05:23] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: I think so
[05:24] <Zen> for a person running 32-bit on an Athlon64, would it benefit me to run the K7 kernel instead of the i386?
[05:24] <whaley> question: I have an external hdd that's formated as ext2,  I can't get it mount with read/write, only read.  The entry in fstab looks like: /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ext2    defaults        0       0      | any suggestions,  should it even be in fstab?
[05:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libacl.la' (1 shown): (/lib/libacl.la, /usr/lib/libacl.la) in libdevel/libacl1-dev.
[05:24] <alekandr> Im running  breezy i386 on a amd64fx cpu
[05:24] <gnomefreak> Zen, you most likely wont see a difference
[05:24] <alekandr> not enough support for 64bit yet
[05:25] <alekandr> everyone should get amd;s ;)
[05:25] <insomnd> anybody every got this in mplayer while playing real stream? -> alsa-play: xrun of at least 0.022 msecs. resetting stream
[05:25] <dylan_> is there a thesaurus option available in OpenOffice, like the one in MS Office?
[05:25] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: ubotu found the package for your missing file ^^^
[05:25] <Zen> alekandr: I know--I opted for 32-bit because there's actually 3D with ATI
[05:25] <brenner> rickard: how's it going?
[05:25] <insomnd> followed by some other errors... it causes chipping of the sound
[05:25] <gnomefreak> dylan_, yes there is a thesaurse in the repos look in synaptic for it
[05:26] <mwe> gnomefreak: but there is at least theretically a benefit from running an optimized kernel
[05:26] <dylan_> gnomefreak, thanks
[05:26] <gnomefreak> there is? mwe
[05:26] <gnomefreak> yw dylan_
[05:26] <rickard> brenner - it worked all fine :)
[05:26] <Zen> though, I've found more support for 64-bit linux than XP64 so far
[05:26] <Zen> which is kinda funny
[05:26] <thegladiator> thoreauputic, thank you , i found it from adept as wekk
[05:27] <brenner> rickard: nice.  you've set up your repos now, so you hopefully won't complain about not finding stuff again. :D
[05:27] <thegladiator> well*
[05:27] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: OK cool :)
[05:28] <ubuntu> ?
[05:28] <thoreauputic> ubuntu    !
[05:28] <rickard> umm, anyone knows how to install cedega?
[05:29] <gnomefreak> !cedega
[05:29] <ubotu> it has been said that cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[05:29] <rickard> okok
[05:30] <grundo> still running that Qt. . .  install
[05:31] <whaley> question: I have an external hdd that's formated as ext2,  I can't get it mount with read/write, only read.  The entry in fstab looks like: /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ext2    defaults        0       0      | any suggestions?  should it even be in fstab?
[05:31] <psusi> whaley, yes it should be in fstab.. that looks fine... it should mount r/w... what makes you thinki it isn't?
[05:32] <DShepherd> ubuntu has fast user switching?
[05:32] <whaley> because i can't creat folders to it
[05:32] <whaley> directories rather
[05:32] <psusi> whaley, you probably don't have permission to
[05:32] <psusi> whaley, look at the permissions on the folder you are trying to create a new folder in
[05:33] <whaley> i'm trying to create it in the root of the partition
[05:33] <psusi> look at the permissions on the root then
[05:33] <DShepherd> whaley: can you sudo?
[05:33] <brenner> DShepherd: i've heard that one before.  the answer was no iirc
[05:33] <s_spiff> whaley, u had posted this q on forums?
[05:33] <whaley> erm, wait, its mounted to /media/sda1
[05:34] <DShepherd> brenner: really? :(
[05:34] <whaley> which is r-x
[05:34] <whaley> let me try a chown
[05:34] <whaley> s_spiff, nope
[05:34] <brenner> DShepherd: yes, unless my memory is shot
[05:34] <s_spiff> then i tihnk some1 has ...check it out
[05:34] <whaley> i did look around for a bit, but this probably seems to be due to my stubborness to look further :)
[05:34] <thegladiator> does any one use knqueror here ?
[05:34] <DShepherd> brenner: what about dapper?
[05:34] <brenner> DShepherd: no clue
[05:35] <CanYouHelpMePlz> windows boots up so much faster in vmware, then real xp it's hilarious
[05:35] <DShepherd> thegladiator: you may find more users that use konqueror in #kubuntu
[05:35] <s_spiff> the real xp?
[05:35] <grundo> !kubuntu
[05:35] <ubotu> rumour has it, kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[05:35] <DShepherd> brenner: thanks
[05:35] <thegladiator> i am right there , they are all on dope seemingly all asleep
[05:35] <monzie> hi all
[05:35] <s_spiff> rumour?
[05:35] <brenner> DShepherd: np.  hit the forum though.  i could be wrong
[05:35] <monzie> wanted some help in building GNOME from scratch under ubuntu
[05:36] <DShepherd> brenner: will do
[05:36] <thegladiator> any knqueror users who have installed #kubuntu-dekstop ?
[05:36] <CanYouHelpMePlz> s_spiff: yea the real x
[05:36] <grundo> no...
[05:36] <whaley> psusi, it was a permissions problem and not a mounting/filesystem problem - thanks alot for your help :)
[05:36] <grundo> i have Gnome
[05:36] <monzie> is it possible to build GNOME from scratch via apt-get source in Ubuntu?
[05:36] <thoreauputic> monzie: why would you do that ?
[05:37] <thoreauputic> mondi: it would just replicate what comes by default...
[05:37] <Dariuss> hey, can someone help me right quick? trying to install thunderbird...
[05:37] <s_spiff> what does monzie 's queston mean?
[05:37] <monzie> to get gentoo like performance without too much headache, thoreauputic
[05:37] <grundo> !man
[05:37] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man man" at the command line, or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[05:37] <monzie> to opimize it for my AMD axp
[05:37] <drmr> !man
[05:37] <mwe> monzie: but you wont that way
[05:37] <gaz> is there a file where i would put startup commands/script equivalent to /etc/rc.local in ubuntu?
[05:37] <grundo> !ruby
[05:37] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, grundo
[05:37] <thoreauputic> monzie: compiling stuff makes very little performance difference actually
[05:38] <mwe> !info ruby
[05:38] <grundo> ;)
[05:38] <monzie> after i get the source cant i set the CFLAGS thoreauputic , mwe
[05:38] <kemik> and if you consider compiletimes
[05:38] <grundo> !c++
[05:38] <kemik> the "speed increase" is all lost
[05:38] <monzie> to compile tit for my processor?
[05:38] <grundo> !Finland
[05:38] <ubotu> grundo: What?
[05:38] <kemik> grundo:  dont play with the bot
[05:38] <thoreauputic> monzie: you would only get a few percentage points improvement - it really isn't worth it
[05:38] <grundo> ok
[05:38] <mwe> !info ruby1.6
[05:38] <kemik> grundo:  or atleast do it in pm with it
[05:38] <ubotu> ruby1.6: (An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby 1.6.x), section universe/interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.6.8-12sarge1 (breezy), Packaged size: 154 kB, Installed size: 232 kB
[05:39] <grundo> its a damm fine one. .
[05:39] <monzie> then why are the gentoo guys mad after compling systems thoreauputic ?
[05:39] <kemik> it possesses great wisdom :)
[05:39] <thoreauputic> monzie: because they drink the kool aid :)
[05:39] <kemik> monzie:  because they are just taht.. *mad*
[05:39] <erUSUL> gaz, no but you can do one. edit a file called p.e local in /etc/init.d/ make it exec and add it to boot process with update-rc.d
[05:39] <feestbijtje> some one knows howto remove installed programs from dpkg
[05:40] <grundo> can someone help me? its a question matter of life and dead!!
[05:40] <leonardo> shower time brb
[05:40] <hmp> !info sylpheed
[05:40] <ubotu> sylpheed: (Light weight e-mail client with GTK+), section universe/mail, is optional. Version: 2.1.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 489 kB, Installed size: 1244 kB
[05:40] <thoreauputic> feestbijtje:  sudo dpkg -r <packaename>
[05:40] <kemik> grundo:  just ask the real question  ;)
[05:40] <feestbijtje> thnx thoreauputic
[05:40] <monzie> okay, thoreauputic
[05:40] <hyakuhei> feestbijtje:  dpkg --help | grep remove
[05:40] <hyakuhei>   dpkg -r|--remove | -P|--purge <package name> ... | -a|--pending
[05:40] <boxy> Hey what would cause gnome-session to take FOREVER to load it takes like 8 minutes, could it be a problem with my dns setup?
[05:40] <gaz> erUSUL, ty i'll try tat
[05:40] <hyakuhei> operative@serenity:~$ boxy esd can stop it loading if something is broken with sound
[05:41] <monzie> suppose i want to do it to check out the actual performance diff,, then it's apt-get source *what* here, thoreauputic ?
[05:41] <hyakuhei> take esd out of the gnome startup process and try again
[05:41] <grundo> i downloaded Qt open source editon from their web site and then i run normally thing make install etc..  and now it takes foreever to install!!!
[05:41] <kameron> i have a .bin file, containing vcd data.. can i run it in a loopback like an iso?
[05:41] <boxy> hyakuhei, im listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd on Rythembox
[05:41] <hyakuhei> boxy: doesnt matter
[05:41] <boxy> So it's safe to assume my sound isn't broken?
[05:41] <grundo> hwo long  it takes???
[05:41] <hyakuhei> boxy: no
[05:41] <erUSUL> grundo, why would you do that?
[05:41] <grundo> what?
[05:42] <alekandr> thoreauputic: i installed nautilas-open-terminal, how do i configure it?
[05:42] <thoreauputic> monzie: probably apt-get build-dep ubuntu-desktop to get deps - never tried it and never will :)
[05:42] <boxy> hyakuhei, so what should i try? or do you have a link?
[05:42] <hyakuhei> boxy: sound could be coming through esd / artsd (kde) / alsa / oss(emulation)
[05:42] <erUSUL> grundo, a few hours in a decent machine? ;)
[05:42] <thoreauputic> alekandr: just right click the deesktop and you should see a menu entry
[05:42] <monzie> that didnt work thoreauputic . had tried it earlier
[05:42] <hyakuhei> boxy: when its taking ages to boot, drop to another terminal, run top and see whats going on
[05:42] <grundo> /:
[05:42] <hyakuhei> or pstree gdm
[05:42] <erUSUL> grundo, compile qt from source
[05:42] <thoreauputic> monzie: if you want gentoo, install gentoo
[05:42] <alekandr> thoreauputic: Nope :(
[05:42] <kemik> alekandr:  restart gnome
[05:43] <grundo> my computer is HP Omnibook laptop
[05:43] <thoreauputic> alekandr: try killall nautilus - it should reappear
[05:43] <boxy> hyakuhei, esd is running in top is that good?
[05:43] <alekandr> ok
[05:43] <grundo> and it takes time time time.  .
[05:43] <monzie> nope, then i dont have the ease of use  and community of Ubuntu thoreauputic
[05:43] <grundo> i just ..
[05:43] <kemik> monzie:  there really is no point in compiliing programs for the "speed increase"
[05:43] <monzie> hmm
[05:43] <hyakuhei> boxy: wont hurt anything if you kill it, see if your boot speeds up when you do
[05:44] <boxy> hyakuhei, okay thanks is there anything else i can try while im at it?
[05:44] <grundo> if someone have do the same and tell mee hwo long it takes. .
[05:44] <kemik> monzie:  especially since compiletimes can be hours for large stuff such as Gnome etc etc
[05:44] <hyakuhei> boxy: dont know really, just watch top, see if anything is maxing out
[05:44] <boxy> hyakuhei, i figure i might as well try a few things since it takes like 8 minutes to load
[05:44] <thoreauputic> monzie: as I said, what you are doing is pointless - if you want to do it , research it - I don't know the answer sorry
[05:44] <boxy> aight thanks
[05:44] <boxy> btw how do i set my domain name?
[05:44] <C-O-L-T> How can I play a microsoft game in Linux
[05:44] <C-O-L-T> ??
[05:44] <kemik> grundo:  it all depends on how fast your computer is etc etc.. or do you think the installation has hung ?
[05:44] <monzie> ok kemik , can you atleast tell me for what platform are Breezy packages compiled for ?
[05:44] <boxy> and is there really anything it should be set to?
[05:44] <kremonte> C-O-L-T:  wine or cedega
[05:44] <monzie> i mean the pc edition..
[05:44] <alekandr> thoreauputic: thanks alot mate :)
[05:44] <grundo> yes
[05:44] <grundo> i thing it has a hung
[05:44] <thoreauputic> alekandr: no worries :)
[05:45] <monzie> thanks thoreauputic
[05:45] <kemik> monzie:  x86, 64bit, ppc at least
[05:45] <C-O-L-T> kremonte: Can I play NFS Most Wanted with it?
[05:45] <grundo> it keeps rolling rolling rolling . .
[05:45] <kremonte> check their databases :)
[05:45] <kremonte> !tell C-O-L-T about cedega
[05:45] <monzie> no i meant for what processor the x86 version is optimized for .. kemik
[05:45] <boxy> hyakuhei, would setting my domain name on this computer help, if so how do i set it?
[05:45] <erUSUL> grundo, it will take a long (hours) time is c++ code and it is a large codebase
[05:45] <whyameye> is there a way to mount an SMB network as a drive or something like in WinXP? I want to be able to load and save files from my apps through the network to my Windows machine but I can't seem to figure out how to do this
[05:46] <monzie> like fc4 optimizes it for p4
[05:46] <grundo> :(
[05:46] <rickard> I installed wine, how do i start it?
[05:46] <kemik> monzie:  depends on the -deb but the kernels has k6-k7 586-686 etc
[05:46] <hyakuhei> boxy: nope, shouldnt effect the load time of gnome at all
[05:46] <grundo> 4 h?
[05:46] <boxy> kay thanks bbs
[05:46] <grundo> 5 h?
[05:46] <hyakuhei> rickard: wine
[05:46] <kremonte> rickard:  wine file.exe
[05:46] <monzie> ya....
[05:46] <kemik> monzie:  but sticking with 386 will be *just fine*
[05:46] <thoreauputic> monzie: if you want better GUI speed, install xubuntu-desktop and/or install lighter apps  - e.g. sylpheed for mail etc
[05:46] <monzie> okay..
[05:46] <rickard> But it said it was a grahical user interface in wine
[05:47] <thoreauputic> monzie: you might like the kazehakaze browser for instance
[05:47] <monzie> i also read in the net about tinkering with the system linker to make things faster
[05:47] <whyameye> rickard: what are you trying to do?
[05:47] <grundo> it's qt-x11-opensource version if it has enything do whit the time issue. .
[05:47] <monzie> ok thoreauputic , dsl uses sylpheed, its quite lightweight
[05:47] <rickard> whyameye, I installed something called xwine with synapic and now I trying to run it
[05:47] <grundo> what's it is really?
[05:47] <Blissex> monzie: I have some delightful ''speed up KDE'' advice here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxKDE.html#performance
[05:48] <grundo> it's qt-x11-opensource version
[05:48] <grundo> damm that enter. .
[05:48] <monzie> Sorry Blissex , I am a GNOME developer
[05:48] <thoreauputic> monzie: yes, sylpheed is light - I use it as my email client here
[05:48] <whyameye> I don't know anything about xwine. I can tell you that with regular wine you are better off getting it from the wine repository directly than from ubuntu's repo, assuming you are on Breezy.
[05:48] <_jahshua-> can anyone tell me a good cd ripper that comes installed on gnome ubuntu ?
[05:49] <[MusasHi] >     ubuntu' ?
[05:49] <erUSUL> grundo, you can install qt from repos why are you compiling it from source?
[05:49] <thoreauputic> monzie: you might want sylpheed-gtk2 (I think that's the package)
[05:49] <monzie> i have started disliking GNOME since the moment i became a GNOME developer
[05:49] <_jahshua-> sorry
[05:49] <leftist> hi
[05:49] <_jahshua-> cd write
[05:49] <Blissex> monzie: and general ''speed up Linux stuff on small mem machines'' here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno05-4th.html#051008
[05:49] <leftist> in open office which one is the excel one?
[05:49] <s_spiff> monzie, why?
[05:49] <_jahshua-> to burn .iso's with
[05:49] <grundo> duno..
[05:49] <grundo> repos?
[05:49] <Blissex> monzie: and my KDE advice is 90% valid for GNOME too.
[05:49] <monzie> sure thoreauputic , but i dont think it can do HTML mail
[05:49] <grundo> tell me hwo to stop that ins.. and use the repos pls
[05:49] <s_spiff> whats the advice Blissex ?
[05:49] <whyameye> leftist: oocalc or something like that...
[05:49] <monzie> ok Blissex , will check it out then, thanks for the help
[05:49] <Rasymas> WHO WANTS TO HELP ME???
[05:49] <thoreauputic> monzie: HTML mail is evil ;)
[05:49] <leftist> ahh thanks
[05:50] <yacc> Raskall: With what?
[05:50] <whyameye> how do I save onto a network from a typical app?
[05:50] <Rasymas> mouse
[05:50] <thoreauputic> Raskall: don't shout
[05:50] <thoreauputic> oops
[05:50] <monzie> they are moving very slowly s_spiff
[05:50] <Rasymas> when i load up my ubuntu, it's not moving
[05:50] <thoreauputic> Rasymas: don't shout
[05:50] <Blissex> monzie:  and to GNOME and memory usage, some sad news and reflections here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno05-2nd.html#050512
[05:50] <s_spiff> ohh ok...as in,...development wise?
[05:50] <monzie> but my gf sends me loads of ecards thoreauputic ;-)
[05:50] <_jahshua-> can anyone tell me a good cd burning program to burn .iso images with
[05:50] <mwe> Rasymas: just ask a question and we'll try to help you. don't be lame
[05:50] <grundo> :)
[05:50] <kremonte> :o the L word!
[05:50] <erUSUL> grundo, do a 'Crtl + C' in the terminal
[05:50] <Blissex> s_spiff: well, it is in those links, but the main advice is to fix some appallingly stupid defaults in the kernel memory management and IO management.
[05:51] <alekandr> Anyone know about HT? My amdfx supports it, and im sure i read somewhere, that it needs to be enabled?
[05:51] <DShepherd> _jahshua-:  you can right-click and click burn.. that works well in gnome
[05:51] <grundo> and the repos thing?
[05:51] <thoreauputic> monzie: you can open html from sylpheed in your browser
[05:51] <erUSUL> grundo, use synaptic
[05:51] <s_spiff> huh?
[05:51] <grundo> ?
[05:51] <whyameye> _jahshua-: I like K3B, but it doesn't come preinstalled with ubuntu
[05:51] <Blissex> alekandr: it is usually no worth it a lot.
[05:51] <[MusasHi] > ?????  ! :=
[05:51] <grundo> details pls
[05:51] <erUSUL> grundo,  System>Admin>Synaptic
[05:51] <monzie> i am gonna do an apt-get sylpheed right now thoreauputic
[05:51] <grundo> and..?
[05:52] <alekandr> Blissex: is there no real performance upgrade?
[05:52] <Blissex> alekandr: in part because multiple threads means cache interference etc. But if you got the right app it can give around 30%. All you need is an SMP kernel.
[05:52] <gnomefreak> why would anyone make a picture a tar thats just nuts :(
[05:52] <thoreauputic> monzie: look for the gtk2 version - it fits in with gnome better
[05:52] <whyameye> I have a network server mounted but I can't find it when I go to save files in my apps...
[05:52] <monzie> and i have to stick with GNOME as my DE, otherwise how will i be able to contribute patches
[05:52] <grundo> i have Finnish version of ubuntu. .
[05:52] <grundo> what's is synaptic?
[05:52] <grundo> cant find it . .
[05:52] <Blissex> monzie: that's fine, just at least fix the kernel fuckups as reported in my links.
[05:52] <alekandr> Blissex: I though smp was for duel processor?
[05:52] <gnomefreak> it is
[05:52] <alekandr> grundo: system > administration > synaptic
[05:53] <Blissex> alekandr: HT is a form of dual processor...
[05:53] <DShepherd> grundo: system > administration > synaptic
[05:53] <grundo> there is log out
[05:53] <grundo> thing
[05:53] <alekandr> DShepherd: beat you ;)
[05:53] <erUSUL> grundo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto?highlight=%28synaptic%29
[05:53] <monzie> how good is the sylpheed-claws-gtk2 version thoreauputic ?
[05:53] <_jahshua-> whyameye: sudo apt-get install K3B   ?
[05:53] <McJerry> i have nvidia with twinview....my tv via svidia is what i want as my primary display. my crt is on the right, my tv is on the left, when i startx now, the crt is my pimary display, how do i swap to make tv the primary display
[05:54] <thoreauputic> monzie: don't know, sorry - sylpheed claws is a bit more bleeding edge
[05:54] <gaz> anyone know a repository where i can get azureus
[05:54] <monzie> will try Blissex
[05:54] <gaz> ?
[05:54] <mwe> do you need to do anything special to get tvout to work with fglrx?
[05:54] <thoreauputic> monzie: it is probably very good - I used to use sylpheed claws a year or two ago
[05:54] <monzie> and i need it to automatically sort my mails (from Ubuntu and GNOME mailing lists :-)
[05:54] <grundo> ah!
[05:54] <grundo> Thank you!
[05:54] <alekandr> how do i 100% make sure my cpu supports HT?
[05:55] <whyameye> _jahshua-: yep that should work. k3b
[05:55] <grundo> then i search Qt?
[05:55] <thoreauputic> monzie: no problem - just set your filters
[05:55] <grundo> package..
[05:55] <alekandr> cat /proc/cpuinfo says nothing
[05:55] <Rasymas> guys, I have problems with my mouse. As soon as I load up Ubuntu, my mouse stucks in the middle of the screen, it's not moving at all! Any ideas how to solve this?
[05:55] <gnomefreak> Rasymas, usb or ps/2
[05:55] <thoreauputic> monzie: I have all my mailing lists automatically filtered on receipt
[05:55] <DocTomoe> Hm, Can someone please pinpoint me to how to install a specific version of a package via apt-get, even if its dependencies are broken?
[05:55] <Blissex> Rasymas: looks like your mouse is not configured at all.
[05:55] <McJerry> Rasymas, change settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf for your mouse
[05:55] <grundo> do you have wireless mouse?
[05:56] <Blissex> Rasymas: or configured wrong.
[05:56] <grundo> you may chek out its battery. .
[05:56] <whyameye> Rasymas: is this a desktop or laptop? Do you know for sure the hardware is ok i.e. does it work in Windows etc.
[05:56] <thoreauputic> DocTomoe: if the deps are broken, it won't work - by definition
[05:56] <alekandr> Blissex: any command to check the processor is ht enabled?
[05:56] <monzie> okay thoreauputic , i am going in for sylpheed-claws-gtk2 then!
[05:56] <grundo> in synaptic do i search for Qt package???
[05:56] <thoreauputic> monzie: fine - you can always uninstall if you don't like it
[05:57] <mwe> alekandr: you can see if your kernel has ht enabled
[05:57] <Blissex> alekandr: no idea. Try 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' and then look up the id string with Google and suitable keywords.
[05:57] <erUSUL> grundo, yes
[05:57] <Rasymas> I have a mouse conected via COM1
[05:57] <alekandr> mwe: how?
[05:57] <alekandr> Blissex: ;) tytyty
[05:57] <erUSUL> grundo, and mark it for intalation
[05:57] <gnomefreak> if you search for qt it should bring up all related packages for it
[05:57] <mwe> alekandr: get an smp kernel and cat /proc/cpuinfo and see if it shows two cpus
[05:57] <monzie> sure , thoreauputic
[05:58] <mwe> alekandr: you _need_ an smp kernel
[05:58] <monzie> the best thing about open source software would be the repositories, i guess
[05:58] <alekandr> mwe: a smp kernel wont just fuck my pc up right?
[05:58] <Blissex> alekandr: no, SMP will even work on a single CPU
[05:58] <alekandr> Ok :] 
[05:58] <mwe> alekandr: hopefully not. keep the old one for backup in case it wont boot though
[05:58] <monzie> I am not a kernel develper Blissex , just a 22 yr old guy who's just joined as a GNOME developer
[05:58] <Blissex> alekandr: even if SMP sometimes is a bit less reliable then single processor.
[05:58] <Rasymas> So, I have a desktop, mouse works fine on windows, i'm using it now, it's some old a4 tech mouse conected via COM1.
[05:58] <DocTomoe> thoreauputic: and pigs can fly ;) Problem is that I have a joint breezy-dapper system and have to install eclipse, which depends on a specific version of a library, which has since been updated
[05:58] <mwe> alekandr: I doubt it will prevent it from booting though
[05:59] <Blissex> monzie: yes, but my links tell you how to fix the kernel fuckups with just a few lines of shell.
[05:59] <DocTomoe> I know from my debian system that any higher version will work ... so how can I install eclipse?
[05:59] <mwe> alekandr: just install an smp kernel. it will keep your old kernel by default
[05:59] <Blissex> DocTomoe: if you do that kind of stuff then you should know better :-)
[05:59] <alekandr> ok :)
[05:59] <McJerry> Rasymas: nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf and configure your mouse there!!!!!
[05:59] <Blissex> alekandr: BTW, have your got some spare cash? Because then there is a little upgrade you could try...
[05:59] <thoreauputic> DocTomoe: well, if you are mixing Dapper and Breezy you get to keep both pieces when it breaks ;-)
[05:59] <gnomefreak> eclipse doesnt work in dapper
[05:59] <Rasymas> how to acces it?
[06:00] <monzie> yes Blissex , and that is great work. you really know the stuff inside out. always nice to chat with a hacker
[06:00] <DocTomoe> gnomefreak: tell me ;)
[06:00] <gnomefreak> its badly broken :(
[06:00] <alekandr> Blissex: yeah... tell me more?
[06:00] <McJerry> who is uing nvidia with twinview?
[06:00] <bettong_BOFH> Seveas, can you pm me i would like to talk to you
[06:00] <DShepherd> does anyone know if fast user switching is built into dapper?
[06:00] <bettong_BOFH> it's very important
[06:00] <Blissex> Rasymas: rerun the X configuration and tell it you have a serial mouse on '/dev/ttyS1'
[06:00] <gnomefreak> i typed up a bug but i havent heard anything back
[06:00] <monzie> gnomefreak, nice nick
[06:01] <Blissex> alekandr: Intel have released a really cheap (relatively) dual core CPU, which is almost half the price of the cheapest AMD X2.
[06:01] <McJerry> Rasymas: i just told you, open a terminal window, and type 'nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[06:01] <gnomefreak> ty
[06:01] <DocTomoe> hm, its manual installation then ... [$nameOfDeity]  save the cli ;)
[06:01] <crouton> howdy folks
[06:01] <Blissex> alekandr: it is the Pentium D 820, and has massive cache etc.
[06:01] <McJerry> Rasymas: then scroll down to the mouse section and change mouse to /dev/ttyS1 as Blissex said
[06:01] <alekandr> Blissex: sounds nice :] 
[06:01] <Blissex> alekandr: that is a _lot_ better than HT
[06:01] <Rasymas> trrminal window is that black window right?
[06:01] <crouton> hopefully quick question - audio CDs aren't being recognized or played at all, any suggestions on how to fix this?
[06:01] <vbgunz> I can no longer open my html pages in Firefox... I have .html pages on my system, when I double click them, Firefox does not open them... Anyone know how to fix this?
[06:01] <alekandr> I currently have a AMD64 FX 3500+
[06:01] <grundo> ok, shoul i install Qt3 ir 4?
[06:01] <monzie> it'll take 17 more mins to download thoreauputic , i am getting all the themes and plugins too!
[06:02] <Blissex> alekandr: that surely does not have HT -- only Intel CPUs have HT
[06:02] <grundo> or*
[06:02] <alekandr> oh man
[06:02] <Hendikins> grundo: Qt3 at the moment
[06:02] <mwe> doesn't he need sudo to edit xorg.conf? Also backing it up first might be a good idea
[06:02] <monzie> Qt3 -> stability, Qt4-> Bleeding edge grundo
[06:02] <grundo> ah!
[06:02] <grundo> :-)
[06:02] <grundo> ok
[06:02] <Hendikins> If you want things to work, Qt3
[06:02] <gnomefreak> DocTomoe, here is the bug https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21846
[06:02] <roune> gnomefreak, i have followed the tutorial site u sent me, but, when im trying to do the "make deb" i get, like errors?
[06:02] <Blissex> alekandr: you could upgrade to an AMD X2, but they are very expensive. Also, your FX3500 is more or less as good as you can get, huge cache etc.
[06:03] <ruschi> Hi there - has anyone a valid list of all possible Xkboptions and their meaning ? the manpage doesn't describe waht is possible
[06:03] <gnomefreak> roune, did you install build-essential?
[06:03] <alekandr> Blissex: cheers :] 
[06:03] <Hendikins> I don't see the point in upgrading at the moment. My dual AthlonMP 2600+ CPUs are ticking along merrily.
[06:03] <roune> yes, i follow the site ^^ but, i will look over it once more
[06:03] <midwinter> vbgunz, can you open firefox normally? (from the menu etc)
[06:03] <Blissex> ruschi: XKB is a very mysterious horror. But try looking at 'man setxkbmap' for some hints.
[06:03] <McJerry> going once, going twice, does anyone else here use nvidia with twinview?
[06:03] <monzie> the gnome-devel package rocks, a one shot thing for everything!
[06:03] <crouton> twinview? what's that
[06:03] <vbgunz> midwinter: yes, Firefox is running :)
[06:03] <l_lama> hi all
[06:03] <Blissex> McJerry: try #NVIDIA, and TwinView is a not a good idea except in special cases.
[06:04] <gnomefreak> roune, i havent seen your errors so im assuming they are make errors (thinks you need to install build-essential
[06:04] <Hendikins> Somebody mention Firefox?
[06:04] <abarbaccia> hey guys - can someone help me take an unformatted USB drive and format it with fat32?
[06:04] <l_lama> does ubuntu support MP3 and MPEG4 playback out of the box ?
[06:04] <thoreauputic> !mp3
[06:04] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:04] <midwinter> vbgunz, find an html file on your system - right click on it then select properties and then the 'open with' tab
[06:04] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell l_lama about mp3
[06:04] <McJerry> Blissex: no, i think everyone is asleep over there
[06:04] <roune> gnomefreak, i think i did atlest, sec ^
[06:04] <thoreauputic> l_lama: not out of the box
[06:04] <ruschi> @blissex I know..... major pain in the ass to get german umlauts on a sun type 6 keyboard
[06:05] <midwinter> vbgunz, is anything selected for that? firefox?
[06:05] <vbgunz> midwinter: yeah, I did that plenty of times :( Firefox will not automatically open if I simply double click an .html file :(
[06:05] <vbgunz> midwinter: yes, Firefox is selected...
[06:05] <Blissex> ruschi: not necesasarily! Do you use KDE?
[06:05] <gnomefreak> roune,  please paste the command and errrors you are getting in pastebin please
[06:05] <McJerry> Blissex: i meant np, sorry bout that, anyway twinview working fine here i just want to figure out how to swap primary displays
[06:05] <midwinter> vbgunz, ah.. hmm
[06:05] <vbgunz> midwinter: one sec
[06:05] <roune> gnomefreak, here is the command i used to get that stuff"^^  apt-get install debhelper build-essential fakeroot linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:05] <mwe> l_lama: the answer would be no, not out of the box since mp3 is not free software
[06:05] <grundo> ubotu tell grundo about #ubuntu
[06:05] <Blissex> McJerry: IIRC that is done either by just swapping the order in which they are described, or by doing that and then using the 'Screen' directive to do so.
[06:06] <__techpickle> is there a dhcpd for ubuntu?
[06:06] <Blissex> McJerry: but if it is a laptop it can involve the BIOS or laptop specific commands.
[06:06] <Madeye> I have problem with k3b, actually it's new laptop install, 'CDRecord has no permission to open the device'.'You may use k3bsetup2 to solve this problem'
[06:06] <Blissex> __techpickle: yes.
[06:06] <McJerry> Rasymas: did that fix your mouse?
[06:06] <l_lama> thoreauputic, and how could I get them ? by apt-getting something from some section of ubuntu (like non-free in debian) ?
[06:06] <grundo> did u change the battery?
[06:06] <roune> gnomefreak, and i got some files named linux-headers blabla, in my /usr/src/
[06:06] <thoreauputic> !info dhcp3-server
[06:06] <Raskall> yacc, thoreauputic: I didn't shout, it was Rasyamas
[06:06] <gnomefreak> roune,  you do know that the command linux-headers-what ever kernel you have
[06:07] <l_lama> mwe, I know, but debian have non-free and contrib for such software...
[06:07] <McJerry> Blissex: is desktop, been using svideo but just hooked up crt also, now crt primary display by default, want svideo as primary
[06:07] <mwe> l_lama: yeah
[06:07] <roune> gnomefreak, well, i dont know anything about linux ^^
[06:07] <thoreauputic> Raskall: tab complete error - it was another "Ra" person -sorry :)
[06:07] <thoreauputic> !tell l_lama about restricted
[06:07] <mwe> l_lama: follow the link ubotu posted and you'll find out how to get mp3 support
[06:07] <gnomefreak> roune, you try running uname -r and take the output of that and put it like this linux-headers-output of uname -r
[06:07] <vbgunz> midwinter: I believe I found the problem... sorry :(
[06:07] <_jahshua-> can anyone tell me commad to bring up my sources list in a text editor
[06:07] <_jahshua-> please
[06:07] <crouton> anybody had issues with audio cds not being recognized at all?
[06:08] <midwinter> vbgunz, that's great if you did :)
[06:08] <monzie> If i may, can like minded persons please ask the Ubuntu developers to put the address bar in Nautilus in the default install?
[06:08] <thoreauputic> _jahshua-:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:08] <Raskall> thoreauputic: :) I know.. I saw someone had said anything to me and I did a lastlog raskall. Got quite confused since I NEVER SCREAM ON IRC
[06:08] <thoreauputic> monzie: heh
[06:08] <Raskall> ;)
[06:08] <thoreauputic> Raskall: so I see :D
[06:08] <ruschi> @Blissex: yes I use KDE but after a while playing wiht diverse xkb files I don't have these multiple opitons in accessability/keyboardlayout anymore ....
[06:08] <monzie> its really required for "usability"
[06:08] <gnomefreak> roune, to run that you would sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-10_i386 or whatever the output of uname -r is
[06:08] <vbgunz> midwinter: yup, I was using the new alltray app and was using hidden from taskbar accompanied with another app "devilspie" which was automatically hiding the app :P
[06:08] <ironmike> not @ all
[06:08] <Blissex> McJerry: then check the 'Screen' directive
[06:09] <vbgunz> midwinter: I got it, thanks for your help!
[06:09] <McJerry> k, thx
[06:09] <thoreauputic> monzie: I agree, but it's a gnome thing I think, not Ubuntu
[06:09] <midwinter> vbgunz, glad you got it working
[06:09] <Blissex> ruschi: bad news... But you don't need special XKB files for that, it is a set of standard options.
[06:09] <monzie> there are patches available, thoreauputic
[06:09] <thoreauputic> monzie: ctrl-L for a location field, or use the gconf editor
[06:09] <monzie> and anyways Ubuntu customizes a lot of their packages via patches, thoreauputic
[06:09] <midwinter> the address bar?
[06:10] <midwinter> yes, ctrl-l or gconf..
[06:10] <thoreauputic> monzie: I *am* aware of that :)
[06:10] <Blissex> ruschi: for example statically I use:     Option		"XkbSymbols"	"en_US(pc105)+gb+group(toggle)+compose(ralt)"
[06:10] <monzie> sorry, of course you would. being an op, you are a
[06:10] <Blissex> ruschi: or dynamically, generated by the control panel: setxkbmap -option -option compose:rwin,lv3:lwin_switch,grp:toggle,altwin:meta_alt
[06:11] <thoreauputic> monzie: being an op doesn't mean I'm an expert - it just means I got asked ;)
[06:11] <Blissex> ruschi: try the latter for example it might give you some fleeting moment of happiness. If you are lucky.
[06:11] <Hendikins> thoreauputic: Don't you love it when users try educating the people in charge? :)
[06:11] <monzie> of course being an  op of this channel you must a developer . or a high member Ubunutu tribal leader..!!
[06:11] <thoreauputic> monzie: in fact I'm just an ordinary luser ;)
[06:11] <DocTomoe> all hail thoreauputic
[06:12] <Hendikins> thoreauputic: I get the same in #firefox. Particularly amusing when they point me to a doc page, and I reply with "I wrote that" :P
[06:12] <jenda> Anyone know how to transcode from DVD iso image?
[06:12] <_jahshua-> how do i use the broken filter to find a broken package in synaptic  ??
[06:12] <monzie> i second that DocTomoe
[06:12] <thoreauputic> Hendikins: ROFL :D
[06:12] <monzie> back to the Nautlius thing...
[06:12] <monzie>  i am sure you must have seen the address bar in KDE
[06:12] <Seveas> thoreauputic, I wouldn't say ordinary :)
[06:12] <Seveas> but yeah, ops are no 'higher persons' than anyone else
[06:13] <thoreauputic> Seveas: heh - well OK - eccentric then ;-)
[06:13] <monzie> it dynamically updates itself.. thoreauputic , unlike Ctrl L in nautlius, which sucks
[06:13] <_jahshua-> anyone?
[06:13] <_jahshua-> :)
[06:13] <jenda> !transcode
[06:13] <ubotu> I don't know, jenda
[06:13] <monzie> so the Ubuntu developers can actually update Nautilus via the patch which does it..
[06:13] <crouton> nobody's had any problems with audio cd's not being recognized?
[06:13] <Hendikins> thoreauputic: Usually happens when I'm asking about something obscure in order to improve the docs.
[06:13] <gnomefreak> i dont get why i get choices to kick ban blah blah blah if you have to be op to use it
[06:13] <monzie> try "sudo apt-get -f"  _jahshua-
[06:13] <grundo> i have forget what include file i should call when i want to use QMessageBox:: function?
[06:14] <gaz> if i download a package which does not need compiling/installing where would one keep it so all users could use it, is /usr/share the play where i should put it?
[06:14] <gaz> play = place*
[06:14] <gnomefreak> i just use my home folder
[06:14] <ruschi> @blissex: I always mad e my configurations with a custom xmodmap in my home ? is this obsolete?
[06:15] <roune> gnomefreak, i  tried sudo apt-get install debhelper build-essential fakeroot linux-headers-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic, but doesnt work Oo
[06:15] <ruschi> @Blissex I give it a try, thanks!
[06:15] <Blissex> ruschi: it is obsolete, and can interfere with proper XKB.
[06:15] <gnomefreak> roune, please paste the output of that command in pastebin
[06:15] <alekandr> How come beep-player wont play mp3's via a smb share?
[06:16] <alekandr> Totem does
[06:16] <roune> gnomefreak, .. how? :D
[06:16] <tkup> How smooth should a Hoary -> Breezy upgrade be?
[06:16] <gnomefreak> roune, also put the output of uname -r
[06:16] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[06:16] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:16] <_jahshua-> how do i use the broken filter to find a broken package in synaptic  ??
[06:16] <Ganjhi> hey, I'm getting a weird error when trying to run America's Army after the installation. Can somebody take a look at the error in my pastebin? Thanks; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6810
[06:16] <roune> gnomereak, 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic
[06:16] <ruschi> @Blissex so whre do you specify what characters appear when pressing certain keys, if xmodmap is obsolete?
[06:17] <ruschi> for some odd reasons I get this aring ( the a with a ring on top if I press compose key+a
[06:17] <Blissex> ruschi: tragically in an XKB config file, which is far more complex.
[06:17] <roune> gnomefreak, how do u mean, the pastebin thing ^^
[06:17] <monzie> click on custom and double click on broken _jahshua-
[06:17] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell roune about pastebin
[06:17] <roune> !pastebin
[06:17] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:17] <Blissex> ruschi: Compose is not the same as Group Switch which is not the same as ISO Level 3
[06:18] <gnomefreak> roune read the pm ubotu sent you
[06:18] <roune> :D
[06:18] <Blissex> ruschi: even if Group Switch and ISO Level 3 are pretty similar, and usually configured the same.
[06:18] <meo> hi... someone knows something about a airport monitormode patch for 2.6.15 kernel?
[06:18] <matt_> sup
[06:18] <rickard> !cedega
[06:18] <ubotu> cedega is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[06:19] <matt_> hzb zjknv zknb kjfnkjvn k dfjnv  jfkjnckjhvznjzlzbknzlbnkl b
[06:19] <matt_> bhbvfh  fbhbvhvbd  vjfgf
[06:19] <alekandr> Blissex: quick question: whats the best sound sys to use: ESD, ALSA, Artsd, or OSS?
[06:19] <grundo> ?
[06:19] <matt_> al
[06:19] <grundo> prolem matt?
[06:20] <crouton> freaking awesome.
[06:20] <matt_> alsa
[06:20] <Zen> alekandr: I just use alsa
[06:20] <skon> !java
[06:20] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:20] <crouton> go breezy - can't even play audio cd's.
[06:20] <matt_> artsd
[06:20] <Zen> alekandr: it is functionally better than OSS and has good support
[06:20] <gnomefreak> crouton, i dont have a problem with it
[06:20] <alekandr> Zen: for pipeline and source?
[06:21] <crouton> gnomefreak: that's nice, I do.
[06:21] <ruschi> @Blissex I am totally confused...... I have an us layout Sun Type 6 Keyboard and all I want is the effect that when I press Compose + a I get an german umlaut
[06:21] <gnomefreak> crouton, what are you using to play it?
[06:21] <grundo> i have forget what include file i should call when i want to use QMessageBox:: function?
[06:21] <crouton> gnomefreak: it doesn't even show up as an audio cd.
[06:21] <audrey> hi!
[06:21] <thegladiator> i have been facing a small glitch while viewing divx files ever since I startde using ubuntu ---->
[06:21] <Hendikins> skon: Also note that FirefoxPlugins has information about that, so who gets to update the bot accordingly?
[06:21] <crouton> so there's no default player that comes up.
[06:21] <ruschi> @Blissex, I already managed to get this in debian Sarge
[06:21] <skon> Hendikins, thaknks
[06:21] <gnomefreak> crouton, open cd-player from audio/sound and pop cd in
[06:22] <welp> is there like.. a minimal install option on the CD?
[06:22] <crouton> gnomefreak: 'empty disk'
[06:22] <gnomefreak> crouton, is it a copied disk
[06:22] <crouton> gnomefreak: store-bought
[06:22] <audrey> who wants to speak with me?????????????
[06:22] <clast> when's gonna be the next dapper test release coming out?
[06:22] <thoreauputic> welp: you can type "server" and do a minimal install without X etc
[06:22] <gnomefreak> crouton, are you using breezy?
[06:22] <crouton> gnomefreak: Yes
[06:22] <gnomefreak> clast, no date set yet
[06:23] <welp> thoreauputic, what is installed when i do that?
[06:23] <deFrysk> !no
[06:23] <ubotu> Ahh, too bad, I really thought so...
[06:23] <clast> gnomefreak, any time frame?
[06:23] <thegladiator> the divx files can be run as usual and the quality is perfect , except for a small greenish line that kind of blinks at the bottom end of the video
[06:23] <dopf> hi, i cant install ubuntu 5.10 on my system (asrock 939 dual + samsung sata2 hdd) - it says no partitions available
[06:23] <thoreauputic> welp: then you will need to use apt to get what you want - it installs the base system only
[06:23] <gnomefreak> clast, no not yet
[06:23] <thegladiator> does nyone know what is causing this ?
[06:23] <clast> gnomefreak, thanks! :)
[06:23] <matt_> hjcg  dghvgbgfgcjkasjklbgjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjvkbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbgffffffffff      nh
[06:23] <thegladiator> shud I try the official divx player?
[06:23] <matt_> dont know
[06:23] <Hendikins> dopf: Does it detect your disks at all?
[06:24] <alekandr> Anyone got steam to work on ubuntu, I want to play cs:s :(
[06:24] <Hendikins> thoreauputic: Feel like dealing with matt_?
[06:24] <clast> dopf, are you running a raid system?
[06:24] <thoreauputic> Hendikins: I'm tempted...
[06:24] <welp> thoreauputic, that's brilliant! if i did that, and installed fluxbox or something, would it be speedy eneough to run on a 333mhz laptop with 64Mb RAM?
[06:24] <alekandr> !steam
[06:24] <ubotu> well, steam is at http://www.steampowered,com
[06:24] <dopf> Hendikins: no, i installed win xp first
[06:24] <Blissex> ruschi: you cant do that....
[06:24] <crouton> gnomefreak: question is, do I absolutely need the analog audio cable for the system to even recognize it's an audio cd.  i don't think so, but i'm curious.
[06:24] <dopf> clast: no
[06:24] <thegladiator> any here watches divx?
[06:24] <thoreauputic> welp: yes
[06:24] <Blissex> ruschi: Compose requires _two_ keys to follow that.
[06:24] <matt_> steam powered is cool
[06:24] <thegladiator> i cant undestand what  could be causing this , probabl a bug
[06:24] <welp> thoreauputic, thanks :D
[06:24] <thoreauputic> welp: you'll need x-window-system-core as well, and an xterm
[06:25] <gnomefreak> crouton, sound juicer doesnt open?
[06:25] <Hendikins> thoreauputic: You're more patient than I get sometimes
[06:25] <crouton> gnomefreak: no.
[06:25] <Blissex> ruschi: to get "a" with umlaut with Compose you press Compose+:+a
[06:25] <crouton> gnomefreak: I get a 'CD-ROM Disc' on the desktop, not Audio CD.
[06:25] <roune> gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6811
[06:25] <Blissex> ruschi: or else you press GroupSwitc+a
[06:25] <ruschi> @Blissex Thanks alot
[06:25] <thoreauputic> matt_: any repetition of your spamming and you will have a short life
[06:25] <welp> thoreauputic, i know, i installed debian, but i prefer ubuntu
[06:25] <thegladiator> is divx player present in any repos ?
[06:25] <thoreauputic> welp: OK :)
[06:26] <skon> Anyone know how you can paste something into aterm?
[06:26] <welp> thoreauputic, plus i mainly use gentoo :P
[06:26] <matt_> what???
[06:26] <thoreauputic> skon: middle click?
[06:26] <JarG0n> I'm using the 64bit version of Ubuntu using a LiveCD to see if Ubuntu is compatable with my system, and it appears to freeze at the stage where it shows a solid (nonblinking) cursor at the top left hand side of the screen.  Any ideas on what this means?
[06:26] <gnomefreak> roune, also paste you full /etc/apt/sources.list file in pastebin
[06:26] <skon> thoreauputic, on a laptop...
[06:26] <thegladiator> does anyone care to help ?
[06:26] <crouton> gnomefreak: sound works fine, xmms can play mp3s.  i just can't get audio cds to be recognized at all.
[06:26] <welp> thoreauputic, just i didn't like the sound of compiling everythingon the laptop
[06:26] <matt_> mailto:n=muhammad@62.84.83.188
[06:26] <mindmedic> thegladiator: i havent seen it anywhere, but there are other players supporting divx
[06:26] <mwe> matt_: stop being annoying dammit
[06:27] <ruschi> @Blissex  Thanks, I zap my Xserver and try again - see you soon
[06:27] <gnomefreak> crouton, have you tried other cds?
[06:27] <thoreauputic> !divx
[06:27] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:27] <muhammad> Why isn't Firefox 1.5 available in the repos?
[06:27] <crouton> gnomefreak: Yes, several.
[06:27] <roune> gnomefreak, okay,  ^
[06:27] <matt_> pease out
[06:27] <_xet> !easysource
[06:27] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:27] <thegladiator> mindmedic, the problem is a small green demaracting line in the divx movies
[06:27] <gnomefreak> muhammad, not stable enough
[06:27] <dopf> Hendikins: any ideas?
[06:27] <Hendikins> muhammad: The Gecko 1.7 -> Gecko 1.8 upgrade breaks stuff.
[06:27] <thoreauputic> muhammad: because it would break things, even as a backport
[06:27] <ki4ikl> this is bull crap, my mom wont let meuse MY 100 dollar gift card to buy a new cam and router cause she says i don't know enough to HANDLE ubuntu and she has never used it
[06:27] <thegladiator> it blinks all the time and it is very thin small line
[06:27] <thoreauputic> Hendikins: thank you :)
[06:27] <Hendikins> dopf: I've only tried Ubuntu under vmware.
[06:28] <mindmedic> thegladiator: have you tried different players?
[06:28] <muhammad> k
[06:28] <mindmedic> thegladiator: or different files?
[06:28] <thegladiator> yes i have tried diff players and diff files and the same file works well in XP
[06:28] <Hendikins> muhammad: Unfortunately this is somewhat normal with Gecko upgrades. You can install 1.5 alongside the official 1.0.7 though.
[06:29] <thoreauputic> !firefox1.5
[06:29] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:29] <mwe> why is it impossible to make a ff1.5 package that does what I do manually when I install it?
[06:29] <gnomefreak> roune let me know when its pasted
[06:29] <Hendikins> 1.5 does have some (mostly extension-related) stability issues though.
[06:29] <mindmedic> mhh, strange, have you tried vlc already?
[06:29] <gnomefreak> some?
[06:29] <gnomefreak> lol
[06:29] <roune> gnomefreak, done :D http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6812
[06:29] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: Yes, some. Do you do Firefox support?
[06:29] <crouton> sigh, time to reinstall.
[06:29] <JarG0n> Can anyone help with my question?
[06:29] <JarG0n> :/
[06:29] <kenderthief> hello, I am having a problem changing the color depth in X
[06:30] <thegladiator> with XINE I can , but XINE is terribly slow , I dont know how to make it fast
[06:30] <gnomefreak> Hendikins, no but i remember more than some :(
[06:30] <gnomefreak> roune thats you full list?
[06:30] <tomeff___> ahojky
[06:30] <kenderthief> I can only get 800x600 with 24bit, which is ugly, but I can't find where to change to 16bit color
[06:30] <muhammad> Hendikins: I tried that, but it tells me that another version of FF is already running, and I need to close it, I'm sure 1.0.7 is closed though.
[06:30] <mindmedic> thegladiator: be sure to use the xv extension to use hardware scaling and color conversion
[06:30] <roune> gnomefreak, yes... :D i did some guide i got from here, and thats the result :D
[06:31] <roune> gnomefreak, becouse i wanted to install xmms
[06:31] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: I'm the SOP in #firefox on moznet, and I'm a general moderator on MozillaZine's forums (who has used the forums since day 1). I say "some" after reading a LOT about user experiences with 1.5.
[06:31] <gnomefreak> roune yes that is easysource
[06:31] <mindmedic> you can set the video output method in the preferences or at the command line
[06:31] <gnomefreak> ahhh ok Hendikins
[06:31] <roune> gnomefreak, is there anything wrong with the soucelist?
[06:31] <roune> gnomefreak, i mean, wont it work?
[06:31] <gnomefreak> roune,  it doesnt look like it
[06:31] <Hendikins> This isn't to say it is bug-free, but generally speaking the problems aren't critical/blocker stuff.
[06:31] <kenderthief> mindmedic: where under preferences?
[06:31] <thegladiator> perfereneces in XINE ?
[06:31] <Hendikins> Adblock is our #1 problem with 1.5
[06:31] <mindmedic> thegladiator: but it depends on your graphics card and x-server preferences if you can use hardware accelerated video rendering
[06:32] <skon> Nobody knows how to paste into aterm?/
[06:32] <kenderthief> oh
[06:32] <mwe> skon: press the middle button
[06:32] <thegladiator> graphisc card is ordinary
[06:32] <roune> gnomefreak, do u want the errors from the make deb thing 2?
[06:32] <mindmedic> kenderthief: in the video tab in the graphical configuration dialogue
[06:32] <thegladiator> but windows XP deals with it well
[06:32] <mwe> skon: or both if you only got 2
[06:32] <gnomefreak> roune yes please
[06:32] <gnomefreak> ill brb
[06:32] <skon> mwe:, k thanks....ctrl alt v wasn't working like in gnome term
[06:33] <JarG0n> I'm using the 64bit version of Ubuntu using a LiveCD to see if Ubuntu is compatable with my system, and it appears to freeze at the stage where it shows a solid (nonblinking) cursor at the top left hand side of the screen.  Any ideas on what this means?
[06:33] <roune> gnomefreak, is it posible to make like make deb >> FILE, and type the errors to a file?
[06:34] <gnomefreak> not sure roune
[06:35] <CanYouHelpMePlz> JarG0n: sounds like a video issue
[06:35] <meshe> make deb 2> filename should redirect errors to a file
[06:35] <gnomefreak> Hendikins, use seveas repos you should beable to get it from them :)
[06:36] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: I have no interest in Flash myself. I'm just trying to ensure that the docs I write are accurate.
[06:36] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhhhhh
[06:36] <roune> meshe, thanks :D
[06:36] <meshe> np
[06:36] <gnomefreak> gonna try 1.5 again
[06:36] <|Banana|> Hey guys, SATA 2 issues. If I try and touch the disk I get various output like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6814 Board is GA-K8NF9 Ultra (nForce4). I'm not sure it is a kernel issue, I'm working from 2.6.15 atm whilst I debug my nvidia graphics problem :)
[06:37] <Hendikins> ...and is it just me, or has the macromedia plugin disappeared completely from multiverse?
[06:37] <roune> gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6815
[06:39] <Hendikins> Hrm
[06:39] <gnomefreak> roune, if you do apt-get update does it tell you each repo and what arch they are made for?
[06:40] <thoreauputic> Hendikins: flashplugin-nonfree - Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer  <-- apt-cahe search flash | grep macromedia
[06:40] <thoreauputic> s/cahe/cache
[06:41] <JarG0n> CanYouHelpMePlz> I would agree there.  I'm going to see if I can disable something in the bios to see if it fixes it.
[06:41] <iveqy> hello, Ive got problems with my installation. My computer is an ca 400 Mhz compaq prosignia desktop. The installation of ubuntu 5.04 went fine, but after first reboot the computer stays after the command> boot done by GRUB
[06:41] <Hendikins> thoreauputic: I simply ticked all the boxes in synaptic as per the docs on the wiki. I've worked out what the issue is.
[06:41] <thoreauputic> Hendikins: OK :)
[06:41] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do i get rid of open office?
[06:42] <Hendikins> thoreauputic: I do notice no Flash Player 7.0r61 though.
[06:42] <gnomefreak> roune, it looks like either your repos are for 386 or the package doesnt exsits in 64
[06:43] <Dreamglider> CanYouHelpMePlz, mark it for remowal in Synaptic Package manager
[06:43] <welp> how do i update my computer completly?
[06:43] <gnomefreak> CanYouHelpMePlz, it will remove alot of other things too
[06:43] <roune> gnomefreak, i got an error like this: "failed to fetch http://ADRESSBLABLA/binary-amd64/packages.gz   sub- process gzip rutunred an error code(1)
[06:43] <gnomefreak> welp, like sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[06:43] <Dreamglider> welp, in terminal type: sudo apt-get update
[06:44] <welp> gnomefreak, Dreamglider, which one?
[06:44] <thoreauputic> CanYouHelpMePlz: sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org2  ?
[06:44] <gnomefreak> dist-upgrade
[06:44] <welp> gnomefreak, ok, thanks
[06:44] <HelpmePlz> whats the package name for open office?
[06:44] <welp> :D
[06:44] <gnomefreak> update will only update sourceslist
[06:45] <Dreamglider> dist-upgradi will get him the latest ubuntu right ?
[06:45] <gnomefreak> openoffice.org ...
[06:45] <thoreauputic> ah that;'s only the metapackage, sorry
[06:45] <gnomefreak> no
[06:45] <HelpmePlz> gnomefreak: no, i mean so i can remove it like threw terminal
[06:45] <gnomefreak> unless he changed his sources.list to read a different version
[06:45] <thoreauputic> openoffice.org2 is a metapackage
[06:45] <gnomefreak> HelpmePlz, sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org
[06:45] <Dreamglider> ok so a dist-upgradi will get him 5.10 not 6.04
[06:46] <gnomefreak> 2
[06:46] <alekandr> any quick easy way to install FIREFOX 1.5?
[06:46] <thoreauputic> HelpmePlz: you need to look at the dependencies for that and remove them
[06:46] <gnomefreak> Dreamglider, if he has breezy repos it will upgrade and stay as breezy
[06:46] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: removing the metapackage won't remove the deps
[06:46] <Hendikins> alekandr: There is a doc on the wiki about installing Firefox 1.5. I suggest reading it.
[06:46] <thoreauputic> !firefox1.5
[06:46] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:46] <gnomefreak> i know
[06:46] <gnomefreak> --purge will :)
[06:46] <noplease> hi@all
[06:47] <jono> hi all
[06:47] <lwolf> can someone help me on configuring a serial mouse on breezy ? i think that my probleme come from my serial port : cat /dev/ttyS0 give me nothing when i move the mouse. Can someone give me a hand ?
[06:47] <Dreamglider> gnomefreak, ok
[06:47] <jono> what is the legality of the w32codecs from marillat ?
[06:47] <thoreauputic> jono: dodgy
[06:47] <gnomefreak> Dreamglider, dist-upgrade will get you the latest kernel for your version
[06:47] <lwolf> jono, it's ok if you have a windows license i believe
[06:47] <Hendikins> alekandr: Additional note: If you're using the adblock extension, remove it before you install 1.5
[06:47] <marc_> Hello
[06:47] <mebaran151> I am on AMD64 and I would like to use eclipse
[06:48] <mebaran151> but each time it fails with a class path error
[06:48] <alekandr> Hendikins: I have, i need 1.5 for greasemonkey
[06:48] <Hendikins> alekandr: Right. Just checking.
[06:48] <const7> hello #ubuntu. I've a problem with wifi-radar and python on a breezy fully "stable" (no extra packages).  when I call :  sudo wifi-radar , I have this error : File "/usr/sbin/wifi-radar", line 1273, in ?
[06:48] <const7>     auto_profile_order = auto_profile_order.split( ',' )
[06:48] <const7> AttributeError: 'list' object has no attribute 'split' . what can I do? I've reinstalled wifi-radar It doesn't work. should I try to reinstall all python packages?
[06:49] <JarG0n> what does this STOP error msg mean? ALERT! /dev/hdc1 does not exist.  Dropping to a shell!
[06:49] <alekandr> Hendikins: thanks pal
[06:50] <kenderthief> hmm I still can't find any video configuration except resolution and refresh rate
[06:50] <Bevin> hi
[06:50] <Hendikins> alekandr: No worries. You'd be amazed how many people don't, and then go looking for support, get told to remove adblock, do it, and have their problems disappear :)
[06:50] <JarG0n> I installed Ubuntu on an IDE hard drive, now it's telling me the hard drive does not exist?
[06:50] <Trashcan> lol
[06:51] <roune> gnomefreak, thanks alot for your help.. i will "google" some now and so, hope i get lucky :D
[06:51] <thoreauputic> JarG0n: looks like it has a problem with the first parition on /dev/hdc
[06:51] <thoreauputic> *partition
[06:51] <TaHuRuS> hi, does anyone know how to log into ubuntu as root?
[06:51] <mebaran151> TaHuRuS, you use sudo
[06:52] <JarG0n> thanks!
[06:52] <thoreauputic> TaHuRuS: don't
[06:52] <mebaran151> or you can go sudo passwd
[06:52] <mebaran151> and reenable root
[06:52] <thoreauputic> !root
[06:52] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:52] <mebaran151> by giving it a password
[06:53] <veriz> can anyone tell me how i can copy a directory from one place to other?
[06:53] <BockBilbo> hello there
[06:53] <Perversus> hola hay alguien en el canal?
[06:53] <thoreauputic> veriz: cp -R /dit/one /dir/two
[06:53] <veriz> thoreauputic: thnx
[06:54] <TaHuRuS> thks guys, i'll try
[06:54] <Huhn_der_zwote> funny. I came here to ask about an error that I got everytime I tried to install ubuntu. Now that I wanted to reproduce it and thus quote the error message to you... well it worked
[06:54] <Huhn_der_zwote> :D
[06:54] <BockBilbo> does anyone have problems with the firmware of the ipw2200 in ubuntu? sometimes i get to many firmware errors, and the net card stops working... then gnome gets frozen and i have to shut down the computer using the power bottom...
[06:54] <Huhn_der_zwote> anyways will ubuntu run sufficiently fast on an 500 mhz 64 mb ram pc?
[06:54] <Hendikins> 64MB RAM? That's very... low.
[06:54] <jenda> Anyone know how to transcode from DVD iso image?
[06:54] <Katie^> goh
[06:54] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: no, not with a default install
[06:55] <Hendikins> 500MHz shouldn't be a problem, but 64MB RAM is
[06:55] <Dreamglider> Huhn_der_zwote, it will run, but not fast
[06:55] <Huhn_der_zwote> damn
[06:55] <thoreauputic> I would try to add some ram
[06:55] <Huhn_der_zwote> laptop
[06:55] <Huhn_der_zwote> I would if it wasn't a lappie
[06:55] <Huhn_der_zwote> well I'll install and then see into it
[06:55] <psusi> it will run just fine if you don't install the gui ;0
[06:55] <monzie> sylpheed is nice thanks thoreauputic
[06:55] <Dreamglider> Huhn_der_zwote, it will run, but not fast. i would not use gnome or kde (i have tried it)
[06:55] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: else you can do a "server" install and then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop or similar
[06:56] <psusi> jenda, dvd's don't use iso
[06:56] <psusi> jenda, they use UDF
[06:56] <thoreauputic> monzie: :) no worries - enjoy !
[06:56] <Huhn_der_zwote> the thing is I had mandrake before, that was my only linux experience. I totally sucked at installing anything myself so I eventually deleted it
[06:56] <lnostdal> how do i reinstall a package and make it overwrite all the old stuff .. config-files and whatever ..  i've got some annoying package-problems .....
[06:56] <Huhn_der_zwote> this was what got me going about ubuntu: it looked very easy and nice
[06:56] <jenda> psusi: I dd'd a dvd to iso. It works with xine, but I'd like to make it 700 MB instead of 7 Gb...
[06:56] <Huhn_der_zwote> so I think I'd have a hard time installing xubuntu?
[06:57] <gnomefreak> Huhn_der_zwote, it is very easy and nice :)
[06:57] <monzie> apt-get reinstall package lnostdal
[06:57] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: it is - I suggest you  try what I said above
[06:57] <benplaut> how do i use ssh to move files?
[06:57] <jenda> psusi: It's an .iso image file...
[06:57] <gnomefreak> Huhn_der_zwote, in terminal type sudo apt-get install xubuntu
[06:57] <psusi> jenda, you're using incorrect terminology... you copied it to an image file... iso is short for the iso9660 filesystem which is used to store data files on cdroms... dvds use the udf filesystem
[06:57] <Huhn_der_zwote> what terminal?
[06:57] <gorski> how to enable windows key in ubuntu
[06:57] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: after the "server" install, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop (you will need the universe repo)
[06:57] <psusi> so calling it a .iso is incorrectly labeling it
[06:58] <Huhn_der_zwote> ok...
[06:58] <lnostdal> monzie, "invalid operation reinstall"
[06:58] <thoreauputic> !info xubuntu-desktop
[06:58] <Huhn_der_zwote> so where do I get this stuff?
[06:58] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: (Xubuntu desktop system), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 1.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[06:58] <Huhn_der_zwote> !info xubuntu-desktop
[06:58] <gnomefreak> after server install as in its not installed yet?
[06:58] <jenda> psusi: thanks for enlightening me. And do you know how to rip it?
[06:59] <monzie> then do the reinstallation from synaptic lnostdal
[06:59] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: after the server install, do sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the universe lines, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:59] <psusi> hrm... under windows I'd use flask mpeg... or virtual dub... let me see if vdub in in synaptic
[06:59] <gorski> can somebody tell me a good and simple mp3 player for ubuntu?
[06:59] <Huhn_der_zwote> thanks for your help, but what is sudo-apt-get
[06:59] <Huhn_der_zwote> and where can I get the xubuntu desktop
[06:59] <monzie> beep media player gorski
[06:59] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell gorski about mp3
[06:59] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote:  that's how you get it :)
[07:00] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: just type those commands
[07:00] <jenda> psusi: It is an .iso - that's not so hard to prove.
[07:00] <psusi> darn... it isn't... hrm... that one was open source, I thought they had it on linux
[07:00] <thoreauputic> !tell Huhn_der_zwote about docs
[07:00] <s_spiff> just installed KDE successfully!
[07:00] <gnomefreak> Huhn_der_zwote, just type what thoreauputic gave you to type and poof it iwll be there
[07:00] <psusi> jenda, which filesystem to you specify when you mount it?  mount -t iso9660 or mount -t udf?
[07:01] <gorski> ok, thank you.
[07:01] <psusi> jenda, you _can_ burn an iso filesystem on a dvd, but all comercial dvds use udf
[07:01] <jenda> psusi: I never mounted it. But the file is /path/name.iso
[07:01] <Huhn_der_zwote> thanks I'll give it a look
[07:01] <lnostdal> http://paste.lisp.org/display/15510 , monzie
[07:01] <jenda> psusi: And xine has no trouble playing it.
[07:01] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: also read  http://help.ubuntu.com
[07:01] <psusi> jenda, yea.. you named it wrong.. it should not be named .iso because it does not contain an iso9660 filesystem
[07:01] <jdier> anyone have any clues for setting up a share of a ubuntu dir so it is visible from my windows clients?
[07:01] <psusi> jenda, xine understands udf
[07:01] <mebaran151> hey
[07:02] <mebaran151> could anyone help me set up eclispe on AMD64?
[07:02] <JarG0n> how do I pick the SMP kernel after installing Ubuntu?
[07:02] <thoreauputic> jdier: windows is blind to any non-windows filesystem (unless you install 3rd party tricks)
[07:03] <monzie> everything seems fine lnostdal
[07:03] <JDahl> mebaran151, I don't think the version that comes with Ubuntu works - I had to download it from eclipse.org
[07:03] <jenda> JarG0n: Synaptic search for "linux" and make your pick...
[07:03] <lnostdal> monzie, erm .. no, nothing happens
[07:03] <thoreauputic> jdier: or unless you use samba for filesharing on anetwork of course
[07:03] <mebaran151> JDahl, can I checkinstall it?
[07:03] <monzie> what is the exact problem that you are facing lnostdal
[07:03] <jdier> Any suggestions of third party tricks?  I have all of my music and photos on my linux machine and would like my wife to be able to browse and copy
[07:03] <lnostdal> monzie, ls /var/log/postgresql is empty (no files)
[07:03] <mebaran151> and JDahl, will it work with the gcj JavaVM
[07:04] <mebaran151> as I am running AMD64 and it is a pain to make JDK work
[07:04] <thoreauputic> jdier: ah -you need to install samba then
[07:04] <thoreauputic> !samba
[07:04] <ubotu> somebody said samba was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[07:04] <monzie> i dont know much about postgresql
[07:04] <JarG0n> jenda> can you show me how to do this?
[07:04] <lnostdal> stupid freakin rc-script tells me nada  *arf*
[07:05] <jenda> JarG0n: open synaptic through system>admin>synaptic
[07:05] <s_spiff> hey i can mount a certain partion by the command : sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[07:05] <monzie> have you done a "/etc/init.d/postgresql start" after installation lnostdal ?
[07:05] <s_spiff> how do i see to it that It's mounted everytime i boot up?
[07:05] <lnostdal> of course .. see the paste, monzie
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> jdier,  also you may need to set a samba password for the user ont he linunx box. whos home dir you wish windows tobe able to access
[07:05] <thoreauputic> jdier: got ubotu's URL ?
[07:05] <gnomefreak> Hendikins, you still here?
[07:05] <jdier> I have samba running and use smb:/computer to get to my windows machines.  I just cannot go the other way.
[07:05] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: I shouldn't be, but yeah
[07:05] <JDahl> mebaran151, I just downloaded to the tar file and installed in ~/bin. I think it works with gcj - at least I don't recall any problems with Ubuntu's java (blackdown?). I didn't use it much, however; I thought xemacs was easier to use
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> jdier,  google for the 'using samba' online book. its got loads of details and examples for different tasks as well.
[07:05] <lnostdal> it isn't running .. and the rc-script does not report an error .. and nothing in the log-files in /var/log  (the files aren't even there)
[07:06] <thoreauputic> jdier: do you have the samba server installed?
[07:06] <jdier> thoreauputic - got them.  Give me some time to review those links
[07:06] <monzie> sorry lnostdal , i dont know .
[07:06] <gnomefreak> lol do you have issue opening 1.5 in xchat?
[07:06] <gorski> can someone give me a good reference for installing winfast tv 2000xp card, please?!
[07:06] <jdier> Yes samba is intalled
[07:06] <lnostdal> dang
[07:06] <s_spiff>  someone help!
[07:06] <thoreauputic> jdier: sure :)
[07:06] <gnomefreak> !help
[07:06] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: Nope. I don't use Ubuntu though (aside from a testing install in VMware)
[07:06] <gnomefreak> oh ok ty Hendikins
[07:06] <puppeteer> hello
[07:07] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: I simply plan on taking a chainsaw to some docs
[07:07] <freak_> i have a question that is probably easy for any of your to answer
[07:07] <jdier> thanks for the tips.  I will try to work it out.
[07:07] <gorski> can someone help me for installing winfast tv 2000xp card, please?!
[07:07] <puppeteer> bye bye !
[07:07] <gnomefreak> sounds fun :(
[07:07] <alekandr> does breezy only come with firefox?
[07:07] <freak_> i was wondering how to get APT to install a package from my home directory
[07:07] <freak_> im trying to install fluxbox
[07:07] <monzie> dpkg -i packagename freak_
[07:07] <gnomefreak> alekandr, you can get a number of browsers but no it also comes with w3m
[07:08] <freak_> thank you!
[07:08] <alekandr> ok good, cause i just borked firefox :] 
[07:08] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install fluxbox should work
[07:08] <gorski> can someone give me a good reference for installing winfast tv 2000xp card, please?!
[07:08] <thoreauputic> freak_: you need sudo in front of that command btw
[07:08] <Hendikins> alekandr: How'd you break it?
[07:09] <alekandr> Hendikins: firefox 1.5 update messed everything up, then i had to remove the packages from broken :(
[07:09] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: After the few thousand times, you don't worry about it.\
[07:09] <klhughes> whats up everybody
[07:09] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:09] <Hendikins> alekandr: So you did what?
[07:09] <gnomefreak> alekandr, how did you update it? from the wiki?
[07:10] <alekandr> gnomefreak: yeah
[07:10] <gnomefreak> did you set it as default?
[07:10] <alekandr> ok reinstalled
[07:10] <alekandr> <3 synaptic
[07:10] <klhughes> Does anyone know how to keep devices from "auto-opening" when they get mounted?
[07:10] <alekandr> i need 1.5 for greasemonkey support
[07:10] <Hendikins> Hrm. Any wonder I'm going to be chainsawing the Firefox docs in the wiki?
[07:10] <alekandr> i have 1.0.7
[07:10] <alekandr> !firefox
[07:11] <gnomefreak> alekandr, you have 1.0.7 or 1.5 or both?
[07:11] <alekandr> !firefox1.5
[07:11] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:11] <Zoohouse> Can I compile exe for windows using the defult gcc installation?
[07:11] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[07:11] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:11] <alekandr> gnomefreak: 1.0.7, but i need 1.5
[07:11] <monzie> no Zoohouse
[07:11] <Hendikins> I'm in the process of attacking that page right now
[07:11] <Zoohouse> monzie, what do i need?
[07:11] <gnomefreak> Hendikins, the wiki page?
[07:11] <monzie> i dont think you can do it Zoohouse
[07:12] <mebaran151> Ubuntu uses a whack gcj version
[07:12] <gnomefreak> mebaran151, than change it
[07:12] <monzie> but you can get gcc for windows using Cygwin
[07:12] <mebaran151> gnomefreak, that's harder than it sounds
[07:12] <mebaran151> I've tried
[07:12] <gnomefreak> no its not
[07:12] <mebaran151> but it seems they conflict with each other
[07:12] <mebaran151> at least on AMD64 it rendered openoffice inoperable
[07:12] <mebaran151> and all the Java applications just simply crashed
[07:13] <thoreauputic> mebaran151: you can innstall sun j2re , then run sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:13] <monzie> search google for cygwin please, Zoohouse , i dont think this topic concerns Ubuntu
[07:14] <thoreauputic> hmm amd64 I don't know about with java though
[07:14] <Zoohouse> ok thx
[07:14] <sapo> hi all, anyone knows where gnome store the cdrom devices info? my fstab is corret, but gnome shows 4 cdroms drive.. and i just have 2, its duplicating :(
[07:14] <boxy> For HyperThreading do i just install a smp kernel?
[07:15] <gnomefreak> smp is for duel proccesers
[07:15] <boxy> well how do i get HyperThreading to work?
[07:15] <freak_> what's the package "menu"? fluxbox needs it
[07:16] <JarG0n> Is the 64 bit version of Ubuntu relatively stable, or do people have many issues with it?
[07:16] <rickard> !nvidia
[07:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:16] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: since HT is emulated SMP, you use an SMP kernel for it too. Just FYI.
[07:16] <thoreauputic> freak_: sudo apt-get install menu
[07:16] <gnomefreak> boxy, i dont know if hyperthreading is supported in ubuntu
[07:16] <czr> boxy, smp kernel with HT enabled
[07:16] <freak_> alright, thanks
[07:16] <mebaran151> JarG0n, only java seems a little touchy on 64 bits
[07:16] <gnomefreak> oh ok ty Hendikins
[07:16] <czr> ht is supported ok, just install the smp kernel
[07:16] <czr> you need also to check that HT is enabled in your bios
[07:17] <boxy> yeah
[07:17] <boxy> so no extra kernel configing?
[07:17] <Huhn_der_zwote> can you give me some advice which kernel to install? yes documention and wiki, but the starter guide doesn't work for me
[07:17] <Hendikins> No extra configging
[07:17] <HelpmePlz> anyone else having problems running any of the doom apps?
[07:17] <czr> boxy, should be ok out of the box
[07:17] <JarG0n> mebaran> thx
[07:17] <boxy> czr thanks
[07:17] <Hendikins> To the OS, HT is just the same as SMP, so nothing special is involved.
[07:17] <boxy> yeah thats what i though
[07:17] <Hendikins> (Of course, SMP whips HT, but that's another matter...)
[07:17] <boxy> but gnome told me diff
[07:17] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: just accept the default - you can change it later if you wish quite easily
[07:17] <boxy> of course Hendikins ;)
[07:17] <gnomefreak> boxy i was mistaken
[07:18] <boxy> its alright
[07:18] <czr> kernel config has separate ht option so that the scheduler will know when to allocate processes to another logical cpu
[07:18] <boxy> :)
[07:18] <Hendikins> boxy: gnomefreak was incorrect, and has been duly corrected :)
[07:18] <freak_> "menu" is not available
[07:18] <boxy> hah
[07:18] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: the kernel type won't make a huge difference
[07:19] <Huhn_der_zwote> default would be?
[07:19] <Hendikins> Huhn_der_zwote: If you don't know what you're doing, there is no need to change the default.
[07:19] <gnomefreak> Hendikins, i remember reading something about ht not being supported maybe they changed it
[07:19] <gabi> heloo
[07:19] <Huhn_der_zwote> well I dont want to change it, but they ask during install anyways
[07:19] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: i386 - but that's what the installer gives you - and it doesn't ask
[07:19] <gabi> is anyone alive ?:)
[07:19] <thoreauputic> :)
[07:19] <boxy> So czr do i need to compile the kernel source by hand or will apt-get install linux-686-smp handle the HT part?
[07:19] <Huhn_der_zwote> it did
[07:19] <Hendikins> Huhn_der_zwote: Then just leave it well enough alone.
[07:19] <JarG0n> gabi> I hope so!
[07:19] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: are you using the server ISO ?
[07:20] <gabi> ok i have a little problem with my breezy system
[07:20] <gabi> :)
[07:20] <Hendikins> The default will work in the overwhelming majority of cases.
[07:20] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: you didn't need to...
[07:20] <boxy> oh okay
[07:20] <czr> boxy, 686-smp will work just nice for you
[07:20] <Hendikins> gabi: Well, we can't help you fix it unless you tell us what it is.
[07:20] <Huhn_der_zwote> yeah I am
[07:20] <boxy> speaking of which do you guys have any idea why Gnome takes like 8 minutes to load?
[07:20] <gabi> how cand o login as a root? what is the command ? su ?
[07:20] <JarG0n> does the 686 correspond to 64 bit?
[07:20] <gnomefreak> sudo
[07:20] <czr> boxy, you have working dns?
[07:20] <Huhn_der_zwote> it might be due to the installation part of the kernel failing before, so I had to redo it
[07:20] <Hendikins> 686 is 32bit Pentium II or higher
[07:20] <JarG0n> 386 - 32bit?
[07:20] <welp> thoreauputic, what did i need for X again?
[07:20] <boxy> czr like as in my internet works?
[07:20] <monzie> logging in as root is not recommended
[07:20] <gnomefreak> gabi, sudo <command>
[07:20] <czr> JarG0n, no. 686 corresponds to pentium II optimized kernel
[07:21] <boxy> i know DHCP works
[07:21] <czr> boxy, yes
[07:21] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: oh - you didn't need that - just typing "server" witht the ordinary installer is enough
[07:21] <gabi> sudo and what ?
[07:21] <JarG0n> oh ok
[07:21] <gnomefreak> or gabi sudo -i
[07:21] <boxy> Yeah my internet works im on it right now
[07:21] <gabi> let's try
[07:21] <gabi> :)
[07:21] <thoreauputic> welp: x-window-system-core
[07:21] <Hendikins> czr: For the sake of my curiousity, is there an athlon-smp kernel floating around?
[07:21] <gnomefreak> gabi, what are you trying to do?
[07:21] <welp> thoreauputic, thankee
[07:21] <gabi> to edit my motd.conf file
[07:21] <gabi> :)
[07:21] <thoreauputic> welp: install a terminal too :)
[07:21] <Huhn_der_zwote> thoreauputic: right now I'm installing the normal ubuntu. although highly probable that it will be slow as hell, I want to find out first if it really doesn't work
[07:21] <welp> :D
[07:21] <welp> ok
[07:21] <czr> Hendikins, don't think so. you won't notice any difference wrt speed anyhow, 686 should be ok
[07:22] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: hmm - 64MB is below the recommended minimum
[07:22] <czr> Hendikins, you could roll out your own of course
[07:22] <welp> how do i get aterm?
[07:22] <gnomefreak> gabi, sudo gedit <path>
[07:22] <Hendikins> czr: I won't be using Ubuntu outside of vmware. I'm not changing distro.
[07:22] <gabi> gnomefreak, thanks
[07:22] <gnomefreak> yw
[07:22] <gabi> i prefer to use sudo -i
[07:22] <thoreauputic> welp: enable universe, sudo apt-get install aterm
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> welp,  you mean 'aterm' or.. ' a term' :P
[07:22] <gabi> :)
[07:22] <gnomefreak> xterm :)
[07:23] <Hendikins> and Workstation 5.5's dual CPU support makes my dual CPU machine keel over
[07:23] <welp> oh, enable universe...
[07:23] <czr> Hendikins, under vmware doesn't matter which kernel you use, vmware slows down them all quite nicely ;-)
[07:23] <welp> gnomefreak, atermis faster
[07:23] <welp> *atermis
[07:23] <Huhn_der_zwote> ah well, I'll try and find out.
[07:23] <gabi> but when i log in from another pc to my ssh server how to access the root ?
[07:23] <welp> *aterm is
[07:23] <gnomefreak> welp, i know
[07:23] <Huhn_der_zwote> :)
[07:23] <thoreauputic> welp: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list ;-)
[07:23] <czr> gabi, ssh as normal user, then use sudo to gain temporary root for commands
[07:23] <czr> gabi, man sudo
[07:23] <gnomefreak> nano :(
[07:23] <thoreauputic> welp: but you knew that, right ?
[07:23] <gabi> ok 10x guys
[07:23] <HelpmePlz> anyone know why prboom only plays in a small window?
[07:24] <thoreauputic> well, $EDITOR
[07:24] <HelpmePlz> !doom
[07:24] <ubotu> hmm... doom is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Doom3
[07:24] <gabi> it's the first time i use ubuntu :)
[07:24] <boxy> is the config file for grub /boot/menu.1st?
[07:24] <bina> is there a command that I can use to burn an ISO to CD from the terminal?
[07:24] <Hendikins> czr: VMware's virtual SMP is horrid. My box doesn't even flinch running 2 virtual machines at once, but using a VM with 2 virtual CPUs kills it stone dead.
[07:24] <Dreamglider> Huhn_der_zwote,  i had ubuntu installed on a 500MHz, 46MB ram and 4MB grapiccard, it did indeed work
[07:24] <thoreauputic> !start an editor war
[07:24] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, thoreauputic
[07:24] <tr011> gabi, contraz.....
[07:24] <JDahl> bina, cdrecord
[07:24] <czr> Hendikins, haven't tried 5.5 yet
[07:24] <Dreamglider> 64MB sorry****
[07:24] <Huhn_der_zwote> :)
[07:24] <bina> JDahl: thanks
[07:24] <thoreauputic> oh ubotu doesn't like editor wars !
[07:24] <Huhn_der_zwote> its an old vaio laptop
[07:24] <czr> Hendikins, just know that running anything under vmware is slow, so a question between using athlon-smp and 686-smp is moot
[07:25] <Dreamglider> Huhn_der_zwote, mine is an old fujitsu laptop
[07:25] <gnomefreak> Dreamglider, server install?
[07:25] <Hendikins> czr: Well, unless you're using a 4-way box, don't touch the dual virtual CPU support.
[07:25] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:25] <HelpmePlz> czr: im running the smp kernel, and i run xp pro on vmware and it runs perfectly.
[07:25] <Dreamglider> gnomefreak, no normal install
[07:25] <freak_> do Debian3.1(Sarge) packages work with ubuntu?
[07:25] <alekandr> firefox 1.5 loads everything so slow
[07:25] <Hendikins> czr: and I don't find VMware to be that slow. Of course, I've got dual 2GHz CPUs...
[07:25] <gnomefreak> Dreamglider, and it worked fine?
[07:25] <czr> HelpmePlz, I didn't say it wouldn't work, just slow
[07:25] <thoreauputic> Dreamglider: was it horribly slow?
[07:25] <HelpmePlz> czr: it's not slow for me :\
[07:25] <Dreamglider> gnomefreak, used gnome :) DANG it was slow as a mother ******
[07:25] <czr> well, it's slow for me :-)
[07:26] <gnomefreak> ahh yeah figured so
[07:26] <czr> that wasn't the point though
[07:26] <gnomefreak> 128 is min recommended
[07:26] <Niko-formerlyEag> where can I find more repositories for breezy?  none of the ones I'm using contain mplayer
[07:26] <Hendikins> czr: We gathered. My question was merely for curiousity value, as stated.
[07:26] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell NiklasH_work about easysource
[07:26] <thoreauputic> !info mplayer-586
[07:26] <freak_> do Debian packages work perfectly with ubuntu?
[07:26] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB
[07:26] <gnomefreak> freak_, nooooooooo
[07:27] <Dreamglider> took about a minute to load the gnome menu lol
[07:27] <gnomefreak> sorry
[07:27] <thoreauputic> Niko-formerlyEag: you specify which one -and it is in multiverse
[07:27] <gnomefreak> packages yes sources no
[07:27] <czr> Hendikins, no athlon optimized kernel in supported ubuntu at least
[07:27] <monzie> all those who think Ubuntu would have been better off using XFCE as default desktop, say yes!
[07:27] <gnomefreak> ubuntu has most if not all debian packages and more
[07:27] <Niko-formerlyEag> thoreauputic: thank you
[07:27] <gabi> guys any reccomandation for a iptables GUI ?
[07:27] <czr> gabi, xterm? ;-)
[07:27] <freak_> so if i download packages for debian3.1 off their website, will they work will ubuntu ?
[07:27] <gnomefreak> firestarter
[07:28] <YannTech> hello all,
[07:28] <thoreauputic> freak_: don't do it
[07:28] <gnomefreak> freak_,  you shouldnt have to
[07:28] <thoreauputic> freak_: you *will* break something
[07:28] <Hendikins> Guaranteed
[07:28] <gnomefreak> freak_, what package are you looking for?
[07:28] <Dreamglider> who said xubuntu-desktop was 5kb packed and 32Kb installed ?
[07:28] <freak_> i need some package named menu, and apt repos dont have it
[07:28] <freak_> need it for fluxbox
[07:28] <gnomefreak> !info menu
[07:28] <YannTech> i want to create a DvD with all package (i586 arch) an apps to rsync with multiverse apps ?
[07:28] <ubotu> menu: (generates programs menu for all menu-aware applications), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 2.1.25 (breezy), Packaged size: 377 kB, Installed size: 1620 kB
[07:28] <thoreauputic> Dreamglider: it's a metapackage
[07:29] <gnomefreak> freak_, enable universe repo
[07:29] <Huhn_der_zwote> ok  the normal ubuntu setup crashed again, I'm gonna do the server one
[07:29] <Dreamglider> i just installed it, it is some 25Mb!
[07:29] <thoreauputic> Dreamglider: so it installs much more than that (all the deps)
[07:29] <Dreamglider> ok
[07:29] <thoreauputic> Dreamglider: apt-cache depends xubuntu-desktop to see :)
[07:29] <monzie> firestarter gabi
[07:30] <freak_> is there anyway to tell the ad/remove programs thing to automatically go to advanced?
[07:30] <gnomefreak> xubuntu-desktop is a full desktop with alot of extras
[07:30] <gnomefreak> freak_, enable universe
[07:30] <Dreamglider> ohyea :)
[07:30] <Huhn_der_zwote> ok, so sofar I just install as a normal server, right?
[07:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell freak_ about universe
[07:30] <freak_> gnomefreak, im going
[07:31] <freak_> ubotu tell gnomefreak i'm going
[07:31] <thoreauputic> freak_: look for synaptic package manager or type  gksudo synaptic at a terminal prompt
[07:31] <freemanen> how many people use ubuntu?
[07:31] <gnomefreak> :)
[07:31] <joergd> what software is used for the "ubotu" bot?
[07:31] <Dreamglider> i do.
[07:31] <thoreauputic> freemanen: how could we know?
[07:31] <freak_> i know
[07:31] <thoreauputic> joergd: it's ablootbot
[07:31] <gnomefreak> software?
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> What should a grub line look like if my main Ubuntu partition is sda5 (/), but /boot is on sda9?
[07:31] <thoreauputic> *blootbot
[07:32] <Lord_Athur> where does the apt-get program put the donwloaded .deb files?
[07:32] <Huhn_der_zwote> thoreauputic: I know before I thought I was smarter than you, but as the normal install failed I'll try the server one now. I just normally install the server thing and then enter these commands that install the xubuntu stuff, right?
[07:32] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic, bloodbot
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> I think grub-install is getting confused and not knowing that /boot is separate, so then at boot it tells me file not found.
[07:33] <Lord_Athur> hi all, where does the apt-get program put the donwloaded .deb files?
[07:33] <Blissex> tonyyarusso: you should have the boot partition number as the RUB root, but '/dev/sda5' for the kernel's root.
[07:33] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: yes, do the server install, edit your sources.list. update, and install the other stuff
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> Lord_Athur, It doesn't, it installs them directly with apt-get install.
[07:33] <Lord_Athur> ok
[07:33] <midwinter> Lord_Athur /var/cache/apt/archives
[07:33] <Lord_Athur> thanks
[07:33] <runxctry> hi everyone!  this is my first time using IRC, and i'm having some trouble installing ubuntu
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> Thanks, Blissex.  Will try that.
[07:33] <Huhn_der_zwote> update?
[07:33] <freak_> ok, how do i enable the universe repo
[07:34] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: note that xubuntu-desktop reaquires the universe repo in your sources
[07:34] <gnomefreak> freak_,  did you read the pm ubotu sent you?
[07:34] <monzie> Ubuntu starter guide freak_
[07:34] <jadewolf> kameron, Whats up buddy?
[07:34] <JarG0n> Ubuntu starter guide JarG0n
[07:34] <rickard> Anyone here play Tibia?
[07:34] <runxctry> actually i would like to know how to enable the universe and multiverse repositories too
[07:34] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: after editing your sources to include universe,  sudo apt-get update  to refresh the data in your list
[07:34] <Blissex> tonyyarusso: like 'root (0,8)', 'kernel (0,8)vmlinuz.... root=/dev/sda5'
[07:35] <freak_> gnomefreak, no i didn't send it again
[07:35] <Huhn_der_zwote> sorry, I know that nothing is more annoying than people that just don't get it when you're helping them, but what is the universe repo
[07:35] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell freak_ about universe
[07:35] <midwinter> !repositories
[07:35] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:35] <thoreauputic> !tell Huhn_der_zwote about repos
[07:35] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: universe is a store of software that apt/synaptic accesses, like main and multiverse
[07:36] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: you tell apt where to look and it gets the software for you and installs it
[07:36] <jadewolf> So what do you guys do with ubuntu? I need ideas what I can/should be doing with it? I have sold or given away all my windows stuff
[07:36] <Huhn_der_zwote> I need an internet connection for that?
[07:36] <gnomefreak> jadewolf, what do you use a computer for?
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> Blissex, I have 'root (hd0,8)', 'kernel  /boot/vmlinux.... root=/dev/sda5.  Should I change that to like yours?
[07:36] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: yes
[07:37] <runxctry> thanks for the link!!  can someone tell me how to enable the universe or multiverse repositories from the commandline?  i'm stuck in recovery mode
[07:37] <Huhn_der_zwote> well..
[07:37] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: the install shoud prompt to set that up for you
[07:37] <Huhn_der_zwote> I dont got internet on that laptop
[07:37] <JDahl> jadewolf, webbrowsing, emails, wordprocessing, programming?
[07:37] <gnomefreak> runedude, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:37] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: then you will have trouble
[07:37] <jadewolf> gnomefreak, personally I use it for internet, play games, listen to music, webdesign
[07:37] <rickard> !ntfs
[07:37] <ubotu> ntfs is probably the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[07:37] <Huhn_der_zwote> oh fuck it.
[07:37] <gnomefreak> jadewolf, than you can start with those :)
[07:37] <Huhn_der_zwote> I'm already starting to hate linux again
[07:38] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: you can't connect to another network?
[07:38] <gnomefreak> jadewolf, everyone uses ubuntu for different things
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> runxctry, gedit of course is gui, try pico, vi, or nano for editing on the command line.
[07:38] <jadewolf> gnomefreak, I figured as much just wanted to see if anyone had a 'special' thing they do with it
[07:38] <gnomefreak> i use it as primary OS everything ive done on windows and much much more :)
[07:38] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: another approach would be to install something really fast like Damn Small Linux
[07:38] <gnomefreak> gedit is not gui
[07:38] <monzie> Ubuntu should have a song , just like BSD
[07:38] <jadewolf> that and I can't get fallout 2 to work worth a crap, the menu fades so slowly it takes 2 minutes to just start and then fade
[07:38] <runxctry> got it, after i make the edit
[07:39] <runxctry> what do i do
[07:39] <Huhn_der_zwote> it will get difficult
[07:39] <Huhn_der_zwote> configuring the inet without a gui
[07:39] <Huhn_der_zwote> well I'll try
[07:39] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: Debian and Ubuntu both use the network extensively
[07:39] <midwinter> runxctry, just save it and then sudo apt-get update
[07:39] <gnomefreak> runxctry, read what ubotu posted and add the universe and multiverse to the list
[07:40] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: the installer normally uses dhcp to configure inet and it should be easy enough
[07:40] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: but be connected when you try the install
[07:40] <Huhn_der_zwote> ok thanks for your help.
[07:40] <tonyyarusso> Okay, time to see if I can boot.
[07:40] <kameron> jadewolf: hey man!
[07:40] <Huhn_der_zwote> during install I need to connected?
[07:40] <Huhn_der_zwote> daaaamn
[07:40] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: the fact that it is a gnome editor and not a CLI editor?
[07:40] <gnomefreak> Huhn_der_zwote, no not during
[07:40] <azatoth> hello! anyone uses drbd?
[07:41] <jadewolf> kameron, hey, I got everything working except wine runs game for crap, least my setup runs it bad
[07:41] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: it's easier if you are connected
[07:41] <kameron> jadewolf: wine is an art
[07:41] <JarG0n> "Configuring Bycyclerepair" ?!?!
[07:41] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic, its not graphical tho its still opens like nano for most part
[07:41] <jadewolf> kameron, wanna teach me to paint? :)
[07:41] <Huhn_der_zwote> I got a wlan extension
[07:41] <Huhn_der_zwote> but I need to config this first so it will access
[07:41] <midwinter> gnomefreak, it is?
[07:41] <jadewolf> vi is the best editor IMO
[07:41] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic, only for detecting hardware
[07:42] <kameron> jadewolf: haha.. i don't use it much. i just know it's tricky.
[07:42] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: hmm never tried that :)
[07:42] <jadewolf> but I been using it since I played with Redhat 3.0.3
[07:42] <Huhn_der_zwote> whatever. I'll just try to install the server, then do the xubuntu stuff.. one thing at a time
[07:42] <rickard> !wine
[07:42] <kameron> jadewolf: i will be attempting CS:S today though, so i'll let you know how it goes.
[07:42] <jadewolf> kameron, everything runs just the menu takes for ever to fade
[07:42] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: why don't you just plug the nic in to a network and try it ?
[07:42] <gnomefreak> emacs looks more like a gui editor than gedit does
[07:42] <Huhn_der_zwote> because then this pc has no inet
[07:42] <Huhn_der_zwote> and I cant follow any further instructions
[07:42] <kameron> jadewolf, what menu? what game?
[07:42] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: no network interface card?
[07:43] <kameron> jadewolf, #winehq
[07:43] <jadewolf> Huhn_der_zwote, I did server install, and then just apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:43] <alekandr> JAVA wont install for firefox :|
[07:43] <freak_> anyone have pekwm working on ubuntu
[07:43] <rickard> I don't have any windows left on my computer... I am scared
[07:43] <jadewolf> kameron, Fallout 3
[07:43] <jadewolf> er 2
[07:43] <jadewolf> kameron, fallout 2
[07:43] <kameron> jadewolf, ah, never played it. usually i'm addicted to 1 game per year, and don't play anything else. this year it's CS:S
[07:44] <roune> gnomefreak, are u there? :D
[07:44] <gnomefreak> rickard, the worst that can happen is you mess something up cant fix it have to re-install
[07:44] <gnomefreak> roune?
[07:44] <roune> gnomefreak, im back haha :P, i was wondering, can it be coz i got both the gcc stuff and the build essetianls or something? :P
[07:44] <jadewolf> kameron, its a game from like 1998ish and its really fun, post nuclear war turn based RPG
[07:45] <runxctry> are backports and multiverse the same thing?
[07:45] <gnomefreak> roune,  its complaining about the wrong arc so either the package is only in 32bit or your sources are 32 bit
[07:45] <kameron> jadewolf, cool.
[07:45] <thoreauputic> runxctry: no
[07:45] <gnomefreak> runxctry, no
[07:46] <jadewolf> kameron, it is, you can be good ro evil :)
[07:46] <roune> gnomefreak, well, i got a friend that uses 64bits, and he got it working.. :/ but, he couldnt help me ither :/
[07:46] <Dreamglider> the only games i try to play on linux are the ones that get installed with it
[07:46] <gnomefreak> roune, what app is it again that is erroring ?
[07:46] <kameron> jadewolf, nice, reminds me of.. that.. game. i forget. damn. #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:47] <roune> gnomefreak, well, i think it is when im trying to install ndiswrapper, i cant do the "make" thing ^
[07:47] <gnomefreak> with build-essential make is installed
[07:47] <gnomefreak> roune, do you still have the pastebin sites?
[07:48] <roune> nope :/
[07:48] <erl_> oapp
[07:48] <flogiston> i seek for a lightweight musicplayer.
[07:48] <roune> gnomefreak,nope:/
[07:48] <flogiston> What do you recomend?
[07:48] <thoreauputic> flogiston: depends how light - on the command line you can use cplay or mp3blaster
[07:48] <gnomefreak> roune,  when you type make what happens?
[07:49] <thoreauputic> flogiston: in the GUI, probably beep-media-player
[07:49] <rickard> Is there any correspondence to bat files in linux?
[07:49] <flogiston> My bmp takes about 110MB at the moment.
[07:49] <thoreauputic> rickard:  bash scripts are sort of bat files on steroids I guess
[07:49] <roune> gnomefreak, well, i dont understand much of it .. umm..
[07:49] <boxy> hey czr you still here?
[07:50] <Huhn_der_zwote> Wtf, again the install didn't work.
[07:50] <gnomefreak> at the end of it does it say an error? roune
[07:50] <rickard> thoreauputic: how do I make them?
[07:50] <Huhn_der_zwote> the file for the preconfigured installation could not be load from (dir) you can continue with the manual install
[07:50] <thoreauputic> rickard: ummm - I can give you a link if you wait a bit
[07:50] <roune> gnomefreak, "make: *** [all]  Error 2" ^
[07:50] <moppy_> huhu, endlich xcaht
[07:51] <Korupt> is there any way to hide an application from the GNOME taskbar?
[07:51] <rickard> thoreauputic: yes, thanks
[07:51] <moppy_> oops
[07:51] <gnomefreak> roune, you started with a tar.gz file right?
[07:51] <Huhn_der_zwote> this makes me go crazy.
[07:51] <thoreauputic> rickard: http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/
[07:51] <ivoks> hellou
[07:51] <ivoks> one question
[07:51] <roune> gnomefreak, it also says something like :"gcc-3.4: Command not found"
[07:51] <Huhn_der_zwote> why wont the preconfigured installations work?
[07:51] <ivoks> how the hell can i disable "wait for dial tone (x3)" in network-admin?
[07:51] <Huhn_der_zwote> better why can't they be found
[07:52] <gnomefreak> roune, sudo apt-get install gcc gcc3.4
[07:52] <thoreauputic> rickard: learning bash is a bit n=more than DOS - as in a huge lot more :)
[07:52] <gnomefreak> bash is fun :))
[07:52] <roune> gnomefreak, i unzipped the tar.gz file, and now im standing "in" it
[07:52] <ivoks> or in /etc/ppp? any solutions is welcome :)
[07:52] <czr> boxy, yeha
[07:52] <czr> yeah even :-)
[07:52] <gnomefreak> roune, did you happen to run ./configure?
[07:52] <boxy> czr, hah when i try to boot the smp kernel it hangs at configing the network could this have anything to do with ndiswrapper?
[07:52] <runxctry> thanks everyone for the help, i got universe enabled -- installing the package didn't fix the problem but at least i connected to the repository
[07:52] <roune> gnomefreak, "nu such file or directory"
[07:52] <JarG0n> after installing Ubuntu, how can I go about correcting video problems (cursor freezes top left, black screen) that occurr after loading the "Starting Hardware Extraction Layer" module?
[07:53] <sproingie> extraction?
[07:53] <gnomefreak> roune, after unpacking the tar you cded into the new file that it made right?
[07:53] <czr> boxy, most definitely
[07:53] <JarG0n> I think that's what it said
[07:53] <czr> boxy, ndiswrapper is satans little helper :-)
[07:53] <roune> gnomefreak, the apt-get said"gcc is already the newst version"
[07:53] <Huhn_der_zwote> What can I do against the preconfigured installations not working?!
[07:53] <boxy> czr heh i agree but my WiFi disagrees with that comment :P
[07:53] <roune> gnomefreak, yes, a ...directory
[07:54] <boxy> czr so what should i do?
[07:54] <czr> boxy, then your wifi is in league with satan :-)
[07:54] <gnomefreak> ok good now type ./configure --help
[07:54] <boxy> czr, i'd love to go buy a new one but i cant lol
[07:54] <czr> boxy, call your local excorsist? if you had ht, then you need to decide whether you need ht or not :-)
[07:54] <czr> boxy, you might want to try to find an smp version of the wifi driver
[07:54] <boxy> its a linksys windows driver though
[07:54] <gnomefreak> roune, also give me page of wiki you are using please
[07:54] <czr> boxy, and then rebuild ndiswrapper maybe, I haven't ever touched ndiswrapper (for good reasons), so I wouldn't know
[07:54] <lynx> Does anyone know which folders contain temp files and cookies so I can keep those clean
[07:55] <gnomefreak> czr, rounes learning :)
[07:55] <boxy> is it possible to have apt-get build it rather then download the dep?
[07:55] <stian> How can i configure my usb mouse to get a working scroll wheel?
[07:55] <czr> gnomefreak, rounes?
[07:55] <lynx> I know in windows I had to go through and clean out the cache
[07:55] <azatoth> anyone has running drbd? i would need help please.
[07:55] <stian> any idea, im using kde
[07:55] <gnomefreak> czr, yes hes playing with those drivers as we speak
[07:56] <czr> lynx, browsers have their own caches, otherwise programs should put their temp stuff under /tmp
[07:56] <roune> gnomefreak, for the moment i closed them all, but i followed the "how to" u sent me.. then the iwconfig didnt fint my card, so then i went into some link.. gimme a sec n ill track it ^^
[07:56] <czr> gnomefreak, ah, thought rounes was a word :-)
[07:56] <rickard> !vi
[07:56] <ubotu> rickard: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[07:56] <rickard> huh?
[07:56] <JDahl> boxy, yes. apt-get build -s <package>
[07:56] <gnomefreak> !vim
[07:56] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Do they come in packets of five?
[07:56] <rickard> !vim
[07:56] <gnomefreak> !cream
[07:56] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, gnomefreak
[07:56] <ivoks> !vim
[07:56] <gnomefreak> rickard, he dont know
[07:56] <lynx> oh, I see.  I thought ubuntu cleaned out the temp and cache files auto
[07:57] <roune> gnomefreak, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[07:57] <rickard> how do I save a file in vi?
[07:57] <ivoks> lynx: it does, after reboot
[07:57] <Hendikins> rickard: :w
[07:57] <czr> it might clean /tmp, but not the browser temps
[07:57] <ivoks> czr: right
[07:57] <boxy> JDahl, E: Invalid operation build
[07:57] <rickard> Hendikins: that just writes ":w" in the text
[07:57] <czr> also kde and gnome have their own temps under your home directory for image thumbnails and so forth
[07:58] <lynx> ok, thanks.  I remember someone said there was a program in ubuntu that worked in the background to keep them clean
[07:58] <Hendikins> rickard: get out of insert mode, then use it.
[07:58] <roune> rickard, : w
[07:58] <rickard> How do I get out if insert mode then?
[07:58] <boxy> rickard, esc
[07:59] <mikonan> can i have a bit of help?
[07:59] <czr> lynx, that some program might be cron, but cron is used to schedule repeating tasks, so it depends on what the scripts do really.
[07:59] <gnomefreak> roune, do you have the windows drivers for your card by chance?
[07:59] <roune> gnomefreak, well, i tought that was a later step? :D
[07:59] <boxy> JDahl, build isn't a apt-get argument?
[07:59] <gnomefreak> roune, thats an instead of step
[07:59] <roune> gnomefreak, i see.. but, i can get em
[08:00] <mikonan> I'm having a problem with my videocard, can someone help?
[08:00] <gnomefreak> roune, so you dont have to compile the tar
[08:00] <lynx> ok I understand now.  I'm still new to using Linux but I'm learning
[08:00] <roune> gnomefreak, okay Oo
[08:00] <boxy> czr, yeah ndiswrapper doesn't suppose smp bah thats flameboiant
[08:00] <mika0800> Hello, is there any way to force the Ubuntu installation program to load the 3c509 driver for my Etherlink III ISA 3c509B network card?  That would be a big help, because the installer will then make all other network-related configuration automatically. If this module is loaded with modprobe later, then I must do all network configuration manually instead (which I would like to avoid to do)
[08:00] <Ungy_> OK I got a stupid question I clicked to have my xmms main window not to show now I can;t see ti at all hwo do I make it apear again?
[08:01] <alekandr> I need someones help urgently
[08:01] <narles> anyone know how to fix sound for VLC?
[08:01] <gnomefreak> roune, now follow the instructions for windows drivers remember change /bcmw15.inf for your own file
[08:01] <czr> don't we all :-)
[08:01] <alekandr> I cant seem to get java installed for firefox 1.5
[08:01] <Ungy_> that is urgent
[08:01] <Ungy_> the world will end now
[08:02] <alekandr> oh man
[08:02] <alekandr> shut up ok :] 
[08:02] <alekandr> and mind your own innit
[08:02] <alekandr> it is important, when i need to load a java based page within the hour
[08:02] <roune> gnomefreak, where is the bcmw15.inf stored, and, how do i unzip a .zip file in liniz, gunzip?
[08:02] <gnomefreak> alekandr, first they should give you more time java is slower as crap
[08:02] <narles> my sound won't work on VLC, the output says it cannot find the QDM2 codec.. anyone have a solution?
[08:02] <Ungy_> alekandr, google is yoru friend http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=602172
[08:03] <gnomefreak> roune, dont know and yes
[08:03] <made> hello all..
[08:03] <roune> gnomefreak, thanks ^^
[08:03] <gnomefreak> hi
[08:03] <gnomefreak> roune, yw
[08:03] <Ungy_> anyone know how I can make xmms appear again?
[08:03] <made> rm
[08:03] <gnomefreak> Ungy_, typing xmms in term doesnt open it?
[08:04] <Ungy_> nope
[08:04] <made> Ungy_: did you hide the main window
[08:04] <Brunellus> how do I get glxgears to print fps?
[08:04] <sampan> ungy, have you tried hitting alt-tab ... that cycles through running apps for me
[08:04] <Ungy_> made yes ;-(
[08:04] <alekandr> OH MAN, Ungy_ {kiss} for you innit :] 
[08:04] <alekandr> ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /opt/firefox/plugins/
[08:04] <alekandr> how easy was tat
[08:04] <alekandr> :|
[08:04] <alekandr> that
[08:04] <made> remove and resinstall unless somebody else has another suggestion
[08:04] <Manifold> What's the default font on a Ubuntu install?
[08:04] <runxctry> so everybody, i'm having the following apparently common problem upon ubuntu startup
[08:04] <mikonan> i changed my videocard from a Raedeon 7000 to nVidia fx5200 and X won't recognize the change. How can I make it work?
[08:04] <runxctry> Warning: font renderer for ".pmf" already registered at priority 0
[08:04] <runxctry> AUDIT: Sun Oct 16 11:53:33 2005: 9573 X: client 6 rejected from local host
[08:05] <runxctry> and i've tried a number of things listed here... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76046&highlight=rejected+local+host
[08:05] <Ungy_> made is there a way to get it back or am I screwed ;-( I am stuck with some bad janisw joplin song playing
[08:05] <rickard> How do I get my printer working, now when I don't have windows anymore?
[08:05] <Rasymas> Guys, can anyone of you help me to make my mouse work on Ubuntu?
[08:05] <Brunellus> how do I get glxgears to print fps?
[08:05] <fancyydk> Hi, I have a question about Linux distros. Are all distros equally customizable?
[08:05] <Ungy_> rickard, use cups
[08:05] <rickard> !cups
[08:05] <ubotu> rickard: Are you smoking crack?
[08:05] <runxctry> but it's a no-go... do you think it might be worth my time to reinstall ubuntu
[08:06] <rickard> Ungy_ what is cips?
[08:06] <rickard> cups*
[08:06] <made> fancyydk: no.. then there is gentoo
[08:06] <Ungy_> rickard apt-cache search cups
[08:06] <Ungy_> ricakrd sorry sudo apt-cache search cups
[08:07] <superslug120> does anyone know what the minimum system requirements are for ubuntu????
[08:07] <mika0800> Rasymas: try this: boot your machine with Knoppix CD (if U have problems, try the older Knoppix 3.7, thai comes with 2.4.27 -kernel). Copy the X11 conf file to your hard disk. Reboot, and overwite ubuntu's X11 conf file with the one made by Knoppix. Before overwriting, U might want to rename the old.
[08:07] <fancyydk> hi made, um, how about Ubuntu VS. SuSE? because I tried to use gentoo, and the compiling task takes too long... lol
[08:07] <made> Ungy_: you need to remove xmms then reinstall
[08:07] <Ungy_> rickard, it stands for common unix printing system
[08:07] <Ungy_> made seriously?
[08:07] <CanYouHelpMePlz> can somone help me edit my grub list, i want to remove all the kernels im not using, but i donot know how?
[08:07] <Ungy_> made oh that blows
[08:07] <mikonan> i changed my videocard from a Raedeon 7000 to nVidia fx5200 and X won't recognize the change. How can I make it work?
[08:07] <made> Ungy_: thats what I had to do
[08:07] <narles> my sound won't work on VLC, the output says it cannot find the QDM2 codec.. anyone have a solution?
[08:08] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell CanYouHelpMePlz about grub
[08:08] <Rasymas> thanks mika0800 for your input, but that seems too hard to understand what are you talking about. I think I'll just buy a new mouse
[08:09] <mika0800> I did exactly that on my Debian Sarge, because I could not make the XWINDOW -graphical GUI to work any other way. That worked perfectly !
[08:09] <made> fancyydk: I liked SuSe. I like gentoo.. I have been able to set up gentoo to my liking
[08:09] <made> I wasn't able to get SuSe completely to my liking
[08:09] <made> the good thing about gentoo is you will know where everything is once you get started
[08:10] <CanYouHelpMePlz> gnomefreak: that didn't help, can you tell me where the grub list is located?
[08:10] <Ungy_> Rasymas, what is the problem?
[08:10] <rickard> I got a network-printer, does that matter?
[08:10] <gnomefreak> CanYouHelpMePlz, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:10] <superslug120> can anyone tell me where to find the system requirements for ubuntu?
[08:10] <Ungy_> rickard I print ot my network printer
[08:10] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: now don't forget to back it up before you mess with it
[08:10] <flogiston> is there any other terminal that can be used instead of konsole in yakuake?
[08:11] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: for some reason /boot/grub/menu.lst is blank...
[08:11] <_feathery_> XPEH BAM BCEM B POT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)
[08:11] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: well then your system is broken and you can't boot
[08:11] <Myrtti> great
[08:11] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub
[08:11] <mika0800> superslug120: I'd like to know that too. More specifically: can I install Ubuntu with text mode console only (NO KDE/Gnome), then install X11 and IceWm manually. Probably a good idea with only 64M or even 128M RAM.
[08:12] <made> how can I hide the mounted ntfs icons on the desktop without unmounting them?
[08:12] <Ribs> mika0800: You can install ubuntu without any graphical programs.
[08:12] <Ungy_> made those aren't mounted those are gnome vfs right
[08:12] <Ribs> mika0800: just type 'server' at the CD install prompt
[08:12] <made> vfs?
[08:13] <fancyydk> thank you. I'll try gentoo when I am more familiar with the linux environment.
[08:13] <meo> hi ... is there a ubuntu ppc channel available?
[08:13] <Ungy_> awesome I love coming to a channel and hearing people tell others to try different distrobutions
[08:13] <made> fancyydk: yeah.. you need to try out the easier distros first and get a feel.. then move up
[08:13] <Rasymas> Ungy_ do you see the text I posted you in PM window?
[08:13] <Ungy_> Rasymas, nope
[08:13] <mika0800> server? Does that install some extra server daemons?  Because I really want a GUI, only I want to use IceWm instead of Gnome or KDE.... IceWm is a good choice for PC's with only a limited amount of RAM.
[08:13] <Rasymas> that's odd
[08:14] <meshe> agreed, i started out with Mandrake 7
[08:14] <Ungy_> Rasymas, unless your a registered user you cannot private message
[08:14] <Rasymas> oh...
[08:14] <Ungy_> Rasymas, and I don't have this name registered
[08:14] <rickard> LPR drivers work on Ubuntu?
[08:14] <mhs> any1 know how to fix the sound in quake3 under ubuntu ?
[08:14] <Rasymas> here's the problem I was talking about
[08:14] <Rasymas> the problem is when I start Linux the mouse pointer doesn't seem to move
 it's stuck in the middle of the screen
 the mouse is A4 Tech conected via COM1
[08:14] <mikonan> i changed my videocard from a Raedeon 7000 to nVidia fx5200 and X won't recognize the change. How can I make it work?
[08:15] <made> com1.. why
[08:15] <Ungy_> Rasymas, your connected via a com port?
[08:15] <made> I have an a4tech.
[08:15] <Rasymas> yeah i guess
[08:15] <boxy> hey czr, about my gnome taking like 10 minutes to load i relized i didnt have a entry in /etc/hosts for this comp cause i was on a diff connection for a net install does this look right? http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/OPFoxH85.html (or anyone else feel free to check it)
[08:15] <made> keyboard mouse combo
[08:15] <Ungy_> Rasymas, why you connected via a com port?
[08:15] <faux> mika0800, server is the minimal installation of ubuntu, no extra server deamons. it is just poorly named.
[08:15] <Rasymas> the mouse has that wierd shape at the end of it
[08:15] <czr> boxy, depends on what your hostname is
[08:15] <mika0800> ok
[08:16] <boxy> czr ?
[08:16] <czr> boxy, if you have a hostname for which there is no forward record, gnome will take ages
[08:16] <Rasymas> like trianlg, square and inverted triangle
[08:16] <Ungy_> Rasymas, weird being it has a bunch of pin hole and is closer to a rectangele then a cirle?
[08:16] <czr> boxy, if your host ip is 192.168.0.3 then your hostname should be ubuntu
[08:16] <czr> boxy, then it should work. is the hosts that you showed now a new version or original version?
[08:16] <boxy> czr, how do i do that then?
[08:16] <sproingie> considering ubuntu installs stuff like EVMS that really only belongs on a server, the desktop may as well be called server
[08:16] <Rasymas> I don't know the names of shapes in English :P
[08:17] <made> I love amaroK..
[08:17] <Rasymas> my mouse is very old
[08:17] <Rasymas> made in 2002
[08:17] <boxy> czr, thats my current hosts file
[08:17] <czr> boxy, after you fixed it?
[08:17] <boxy> czr, it was lacking the entry for my comp and its still taking ages to load
[08:17] <boxy> czr, then i fixed it* but it's still taking ages*
[08:17] <Ungy_> Rasymas, you have a com mouse made in 2002?? holy hell I haven;t seen one of those made since 1997
[08:17] <czr> boxy, look at the logs then
[08:18] <Ungy_> !reconfiguring x
[08:18] <ubotu> No idea, Ungy_
[08:18] <CanYouHelpMePlz> can somone tell me how to make my SMP kernel the default for grub ?
[08:18] <czr> boxy, don't know really. gnome is a pile of evil software anyway :-)
[08:18] <boxy> czr sorry for my ignorance, but can you point to the right log?
[08:18] <Rasymas> do you have a MSN? I would draw you how does it look :)
[08:18] <Rasymas> lol
[08:18] <boxy> czr lol whats wrong w/ gnome?
[08:18] <czr> CanYouHelpMePlz, change the line which reads 'default 0' or similar
[08:18] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, is your grub list nolonger blank?
[08:18] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: yes no longer blank
[08:18] <mika0800> I have a logitech mouse purchased 1998 or 1999, and it has default PS/2 connector, but comes with adapter to convert it to a serial port mouse. So 2002 is not that  old !
[08:18] <czr> boxy, it's big and big. that's it :-)
[08:18] <czr> boxy, /var/log/messages for one
[08:18] <Ungy_> then you need to count starting with 0 the lines and choose the proper line for the default
[08:18] <Tedd|> How can I extract a .rpm file? I'm trying to install Limewire.
[08:18] <czr> or /var/log/daemon, forget know which
[08:19] <MilaNL> Can I report a bug? Ubuntu doesn't support fakeraid
[08:19] <sproingie> Tedd|: alien
[08:19] <Ungy_> mika0800, serial yes but a com port mouse?
[08:19] <made> MilaNL: lol
[08:19] <czr> MilaNL, don't try to report bugs here
[08:19] <Tedd|> sproingie: I'm afraid I don't understand. alien?
[08:19] <sproingie> !tell Tedd| about alien
[08:19] <boxy> czr messages is pretty much flooded with these two lines Jan  8 09:47:46 ubuntu kernel: [4295845.153000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[08:19] <boxy> Jan  8 09:47:46 ubuntu kernel: [4295845.153000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[08:19] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: which do i want to use?
[08:19] <MilaNL> Tedd|: Try alien
[08:19] <Rasymas> in device meanager, windows say this: on Communications Port (COM1)
[08:19] <mika0800> serial=com port (like COM1 is MS-DOS, which is /dev/TTYS0 in linux
[08:19] <Tedd|> MilaNL: Is that the only way?
[08:19] <czr> boxy, ignore those
[08:19] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-686-smp root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash ?
[08:19] <MilaNL> czr: Sorry, where can I report bugs?
[08:20] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, whichever line has the kernel you want to be default
[08:20] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: and how do i know which # that is
[08:20] <czr> MilaNL, hell if I know, ubuntu works for me :--)
[08:20] <czr> not here though
[08:20] <MilaNL> Tedd|: I Don't know, it's the way i use
[08:20] <boxy> hrm
[08:20] <boxy> nothing interesting in daemon.log :-/
[08:20] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, OK you need to count startign with zero do you see anythign above that?
[08:20] <Rasymas> so, guys, any ideas how to make my mouse work on Linux?
[08:20] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: can i pastebin my list and you tell me?
[08:20] <Rasymas> Ubuntu
[08:21] <made> MalanNl: Application>System Tools> Bug Report Tool
[08:21] <swb> anyone use fluxbox?
[08:21] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: http://pastebin.com/496733
[08:21] <rickard> how do I know if my printer is a cups printer?
[08:21] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: i want to use the SMP kernel,
[08:21] <Krhis> swb, yes.
[08:21] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, ok no look do you see the line ## ## End Default Option ##
[08:21] <Krhis> I so.
[08:21] <Krhis> do*
[08:22] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: yea
[08:22] <swb> Khisanth, do you know an easy way of getting something to run when fluxbox session starts?
[08:22] <Ungy_> well after that count each title
[08:22] <swb> like gnome-settings-daemon
[08:22] <jenda> Could anyone help me rip a DVD iso image to avi?
[08:22] <narles> if i install the win32 codecs in ubuntu.. will they show up as .dll's in the folder it is extraced to?
[08:22] <swb> Khris rather
[08:22] <mika0800> I think there is a bug in 2.6 -series kernels causing misindetification of 3COM 3c509 nic cards as 3c905, which is NOT the same, and does not wirk with the same driver.
[08:22] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: ok so it would be
[08:22] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: 1
[08:22] <Ungy_> starting with 0
[08:22] <Ungy_> so first is 0 second is 1 third is 2 and so on
[08:22] <narles> what default folder does VLC look for win32 codecs???
[08:23] <odat> hi everyone
[08:23] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: but it was set at 0, and it was trying to use another one?
[08:23] <odat> jenda, drip
[08:23] <mika0800> jenda: try suomiknoppix. Should do it out of the box. But that is a hard-tofind thing. MIght find it on ftp.sunet.se ftp-mirror archives
[08:23] <made> To ALL: I'm outtie.. cyall in a few hours
[08:23] <Krhis> swb, should be a ~/.fluxbox/startup script.
[08:23] <swb> I couldnt find one
[08:23] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, since you did that reinstall I told you to?
[08:23] <jenda> odat: drip segfaults on me...
[08:23] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: yea
[08:23] <jenda> mika0800: hmm
[08:24] <swb> I thought you put somethingin a .session opr .xsession file somewhere
[08:24] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, well since it is set properly I think you shouldn;t tough it at all
[08:24] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: ## ## End Default Options ##
[08:24] <CanYouHelpMePlz> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-686-smp
[08:24] <odat> jenda, maybe its that modified kernel :)
[08:24] <swb> I seem to remember that from running it a few years back
[08:24] <swb> but I cant find it now
[08:24] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: thats the first one, but it tries to load another one when i boot.
[08:24] <Krhis> You might have a different setup then me.... but I have a list of things that exec in fluxbox.
[08:24] <jenda> odat: Actually, I reinstalled and everything works - it was the 686, but drip is the one thing that does not.
[08:25] <mika0800> Can someone even either confirm or deny that Ubuntu 5.10 comes with 2.6.10 kernel ?
[08:25] <Krhis> swb, http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docs/en/faq-dev.php#startup
[08:25] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: can you just look at this and tell me what # to use for default? http://pastebin.com/496733
[08:25] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, restart and tell me that is what is really happening
[08:25] <Khisanth> swb: I have used both ~/.Xsession and ~/.fluxbox/startup :)
[08:26] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: ok
[08:26] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, I did look it is set properly
[08:26] <odat> jenda, did you try acidrip
[08:27] <odat> mika0800, it doesn't come with it   its an option to upgrade to it once ubuntu is installed
[08:27] <swb> Khrisanth I have neither a ~/.Xsession or ~/.fluxbox/startup, is it just a matter of creating them?
[08:27] <swb> I have a ~/.xsesssion-errors/
[08:27] <swb> -/
[08:27] <midwinter> it's 2.6.12-9.
[08:27] <Ungy_> what is the process list command again to see wht is running?
[08:27] <cmatheson_> swb: you'll have to create them, and it's ~/.xsession not .Xsession
[08:27] <fek> ps
[08:27] <mika0800> does that mean that I first install Ubuntu with 2.4 -series kernel and can the update to 2.6.10 ?
[08:27] <odat> gnome rocks!
[08:28] <fek> Ungy_: ps -aux is that what you want
[08:28] <fek> Ungy_: else man ps
[08:28] <ravn> is Ububtu a Debian derivative, and also has it got apt?
[08:28] <Ungy_> ravn yes
[08:28] <Krhis> swb, did you checkout the FAQ page that I sent you?
[08:28] <rickard> !nvidia
[08:28] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:28] <Seveas> !tell ravn about debian
[08:28] <stephen__> Hey Guys... I Think Ubuntu Rocks. I messed up and deleted the home shortcut, how do I make it agian?
[08:28] <Seveas> ravn, the link ubotu sent you tells more
[08:28] <swb> so when I create .xsession what do I have to put in it? gnome-settings-daemon &
[08:28] <swb> ?
[08:28] <TranceRiver> This is my second day on ubuntu.
[08:28] <swb> Khris, nah I missed that
[08:28] <Krhis> swb, http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docs/en/faq-dev.php#startup
[08:28] <faux> mika0800, 5.10 has the 2.6.12 kernel
[08:29] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: like i said, it's giving me error 15 file not found, because it's trying to boot a kernel which i uninstalled..
[08:29] <TranceRiver> If it's a little slow with the graphics (I'm running intergrated video card) would a video card help a bunch?
[08:29] <stephen__> TranceRiver: Yes
[08:29] <ravn> hanx
[08:29] <mika0800> faux: from the start? (meaning 2.6.10 can be installed from the installer, when 1st installing ubuntu 5.10 ?)
[08:29] <TranceRiver> What would be sufficiant?
[08:29] <swb> Khris ahh cool, simple
[08:29] <stephen__> how much u got ?
[08:29] <mika0800> 2.6.12 ???
[08:29] <TranceRiver> 60 bucks or something?
[08:29] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, reinstall that kernal then remove it again this time purge it
[08:29] <stephen__> lol
[08:29] <stephen__> 60 bux/
[08:29] <stephen__> ??
[08:30] <Krhis> ^^
[08:30] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: ok how do i do all that?
[08:30] <gnomefreak> mika0800, 2.6.12-9 is the default breezy kernel not upgraded
[08:30] <TranceRiver> I think I could get a 9200 pro or something.
[08:30] <Ungy_> damn how I kill a process now that I have the process ID
[08:30] <faux> mika0800, 2.6.12 is the only kernek on the install cd
[08:30] <stephen__> LOL... 9200 ok. Go and buy X600
[08:30] <TranceRiver> I mean, just something better than this intergrated graphics card.
[08:30] <gnomefreak> 2.6.12-10 is after you update
[08:30] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, you know how to install the kernal right?
[08:30] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: kill pid process id
[08:30] <mika0800> Oh no! What version of Ubuntu comes with 2.6.10? (either default or as an update) ?
[08:30] <gnomefreak> Ungy_, kil <number>
[08:30] <Seveas> mika0800, hoary
[08:30] <stephen__> ATI X600, Nvidia 6200
[08:30] <faux> mika0800, 5.4
[08:30] <huhn_2punkt0> OK I did a check up of my installation cd, it says me there is a coruption. Before I waste another dvd I want to ask you whether it could be that my download is corrupted. Because I started downloading the files with opera, then my pc crashed and opera download resume sucks. So I started the torrent download and placed the download I had so far in there. Azureus (bit torrent prog) did a check of the file and didn't discover an error. I could
[08:30] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: i just want to fix my grub list please...
[08:30] <stephen__> nvidia FX5600
[08:30] <Seveas> faux, that's 5.04 :)
[08:30] <huhn_2punkt0> might it be due to that downloading thing that the cd is corrupted?
[08:30] <stephen__> hey How I Create my HOME link AgiAN?
[08:31] <Bevin> how can I find which package provides a certain file?
[08:31] <faux> Seveas, ah yes, of course
[08:31] <mika0800> is Hoary = 5.04 ??
[08:31] <gnomefreak> mika0800, yes
[08:31] <Seveas> mika0800, yes
[08:31] <mika0800> And that should come with 2.6.10 ?
[08:31] <stephen__> hey How I Create my HOME link AgiAN?
[08:31] <Seveas> mika0800, yes
[08:31] <stephen__> opss no repeat sorry
[08:31] <Seveas> stephen__, 'home link'?
[08:31] <beaunewcomb> I have a serious problem on my hands
[08:31] <stephen__> thanks! that easy?
[08:31] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, your goign to have to eaitehr reinstall the kernal purge the bad boy and hope it catches it properly or manually build the list
[08:31] <beaunewcomb> and i'm hoping you guys can help
[08:31] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: ok how do i build the list?
[08:32] <Seveas> stephen__, no, I was wondering what you meant with 'home link'
[08:32] <stephen__> o
[08:32] <stephen__> U know on desktop there's the folder u click to go to /home/username
[08:32] <Seveas> ah
[08:32] <huhn_2punkt0> I hate ro repeat myself
[08:32] <stephen__> I need 2 create that agian dunno how
[08:32] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, unless that smp kernel that is listed as the first option doesn't exist then there shoudln;t be a problem so I am guessing that one doesn't exist
[08:32] <Seveas> stephen__, ln -s ~ ~/Desktop/Home
[08:32] <gnomefreak> stephen__, go to places and click home that will put you in your home folder
[08:32] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: it does exist, i'm using it now
[08:33] <narles> what default folder does VLC look for win32 codecs???
[08:33] <stephen__> lol no i want on desktop
[08:33] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, then how are you geting the error?
[08:33] <mika0800> So now I need to download that hoary=5.04 to get Ubuntu with 2.6.10 kernel. Does it have 2.6.10 as default or update ?
[08:33] <stephen__> ls -s ~~/Desktop/Home where i put this?
[08:33] <Seveas> stephen__, open gconf-editor
[08:33] <stephen__> ok
[08:33] <gnomefreak> narles, did you install the codecs yet?
[08:33] <Seveas> and go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in that editor
[08:33] <Seveas> it should be obvious what to do then :)
[08:33] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: because it tries to load another kernel when it starts, not the smp one, then i select the smp and it works fine
[08:34] <narles> gnomefreak, yes.. they are in /usr/lib/win32
[08:34] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, you shoudl see your kernels listed in your boot directory
[08:34] <huhn_2punkt0> Could anybody help me? it's less a ubuntu question but more a general pc knowledge question
[08:34] <stephen__> umm
[08:34] <Seveas> huhn_2punkt0, just ask :)
[08:34] <narles> gnomefreak, they are .dll's and shit in there.. is that right?
[08:34] <Ungy_> Can ok where is this phantom kernel that it is trying to load?
[08:34] <huhn_2punkt0> OK I did a check up of my installation cd, it says me there is a coruption. Before I waste another dvd I want to ask you whether it could be that my download is corrupted. Because I started downloading the files with opera, then my pc crashed and opera download resume sucks. So I started the torrent download and placed the download I had so far in there. Azureus (bit torrent prog) did a check of the file and didn't discover an error. I could
[08:34] <stephen__> Trance cant Talk PRIVATEly sorryz
[08:34] <gnomefreak> narles, dont have them   Seveas the codecs are dlls?
[08:34] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: i donot know i uninstalled it..
[08:35] <Seveas> gnomefreak, w32codecs? yes
[08:35] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, OK when you get your list from grub right down the whole list
[08:35] <gnomefreak> oh ok i thought they would have changed in linux
[08:35] <stephen__> Yes Video card will help
[08:35] <Seveas> huhn_2punkt0, you should verify the md5sum of the iso, ubotu will send you a link
[08:35] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, so restart and write down each title you see in order and tell me which on eis highlighted
[08:35] <narles> thats what i might have thoguht
[08:35] <Seveas> !tell huhn_2punkt0 about md5
[08:35] <stephen__> Ah Seveas Help ME!
[08:35] <stephen__> I dont know
[08:35] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash
[08:35] <TranceRiver> Okay, sorry stephen__ .
[08:36] <huhn_2punkt0> :)
[08:36] <stephen__> no problem
[08:36] <Delvien> Did they break X yet in dapper?
[08:36] <thegladiator> when can we expect dapper release for kubuntu ?
[08:36] <gnomefreak> narles, i guess they are still dlls and it should look in the path that you posted before
[08:36] <thegladiator> hows flight 2 ?
[08:36] <Seveas> thegladiator, april 20
[08:36] <narles> gnomefreak, VLC should?
[08:36] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, buggy
[08:36] <Seveas> stephen__, did you open gconf-editor?
[08:36] <stephen__> yes
[08:36] <Seveas> did you find /apps/nautilus/desktop?
[08:36] <stephen__> yes
[08:36] <narles> gnomefreak, because i still don't get sound... terminal output says it cannot find the QDM2 codec...
[08:36] <thegladiator> thanks
[08:36] <huhn_2punkt0> sev: there's a prob, I run windows atm, so I cant use those gpg progs to check the md5
[08:36] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, OK seriously you need to give me the freakign list you see at start up you need to then compare it to the list listed in /boot/grub/menu.list
[08:37] <Seveas> stephen__, then enable 'show home icon on desktop'
[08:37] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: ok.. let me reboot
[08:37] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, if they differ you have some serious problems
[08:37] <Seveas> stephen__, home_icon_visible that is
[08:37] <blood> is it sapposed to be hard to get wine for ubuntu?
[08:37] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, you may be using a different boot loader
[08:37] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell blood about wine
[08:37] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: it's grub..
[08:37] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: i see it say Grub Loading 1.5 etc
[08:37] <stephen__> umm nothing
[08:37] <Ungy_> then the lists shoudl be identical
[08:37] <stephen__> I deleted the home ICON on desktop
[08:37] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: brb
[08:37] <stephen__> I have to recreate this link
[08:37] <Delvien> thegladiator its not too bad, the only problem im having is VMware, and nautilus blowing up every now and then
[08:37] <huhn_2punkt0> Seveas
[08:38] <huhn_2punkt0> there's a prob, I run windows atm, so I cant use those gpg progs to check the md5
[08:38] <stephen__> well thanks u
[08:38] <MaxEmtSti> Problem! I have Ubuntu with 2lan cards, 1 for internet 1 for other computer running XP. The XP can resolve the address of google.com while pinging but gets no replay. And i cannot open anything from internet with the XP
[08:38] <thegladiator> Delvien, ah . i run kde so it shud be ven better
[08:38] <Ungy_> stephen__, ln -s /home/username /home/username/Desktop?
[08:38] <mika0800> where can I download that older Ubuntu: Hoary = 5.04 ?
[08:38] <Seveas> huhn_2punkt0, there are windows md5sum tools too
[08:38] <huhn_2punkt0> ok
[08:38] <Seveas> huhn_2punkt0, google and tucows are your friends :)
[08:38] <Delvien> thegladiator i found KDE very unresponsive and horribly buggy
[08:39] <gnomefreak> huhn_2punkt0,  look on downloads.com they should have a few md5sum tools i cant remember the name of it though
[08:39] <stephen__> thanks!
[08:39] <huhn_2punkt0> i'll find one, thanks.
[08:39] <Delvien> thegladiator gnome>KDE in dapper right now
[08:39] <huhn_2punkt0> :)
[08:39] <Ungy_> Delvien, flukbox > then all
[08:39] <thegladiator> yes I will switch back to gnome once I get 512 RAM
[08:39] <Delvien> Ungy_ cept Flux is ugly as hell
[08:39] <thegladiator> this RAM has few errors and seg faults problems occur frequently in gnome
[08:40] <stephen__> i out
[08:40] <gnomefreak> Delvien, there are only like 7 "boxes"
[08:40] <TranceRiver> So the 6200 nvidia will be a pretty good choice stephen__ ?
[08:40] <Ungy_> Delvien, put a bag over it's head it's still the best ride in town just don;t let your homies see you riding it
[08:40] <Delvien> gnomefreak hehe i know :P
[08:40] <somerville32> I just burned Ubuntu 5.10
[08:40] <Delvien> Ungy_ lol !!
[08:40] <somerville32> And there is two errors in my md5 check
[08:40] <MaxEmtSti> any  1 to answer me
[08:41] <somerville32> .\install\pxelinux.cfg\default (doesn't exist)
[08:41] <B_166-ER-X> i have a "temporary falure in name resolution"
[08:41] <B_166-ER-X>  at install ubuntu 5.10, whats the command to change resolution in recovery ?
[08:41] <Ungy_> MaxEmtSti, you have a crossover cable connected?
[08:41] <somerville32> .\install\netboot\pxelinux.0 (sums don't match)
[08:41] <MaxEmtSti> Ungy_, yes
[08:42] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386  root = /dev/sda1 ro quiet splash
[08:42] <somerville32> B_166-ER-X: You usually get that error if you aren't connected to the internet
[08:42] <Ungy_> MaxEmtSti, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370 read this
[08:43] <B_166-ER-X> somerville32,  you sure ? i had the feeling that it was gfx related sincethe screen became buggy at install
[08:43] <MaxEmtSti> Ungy_, will check.
[08:43] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, that is the complete list of kernals listed ast the grub menu?
[08:43] <B_166-ER-X> somerville32,  on pppoe is there something to do at install ??
[08:44] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: no, it has some .9 ones, some smp ones and memtest ones also..
[08:44] <blood> how can i start to install wine for ubuntu
[08:44] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, did you right them all down and compare it to your /boot/grub/menu.list
[08:44] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: it's the same... it's trying to boot a deleted kernel
[08:45] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, the list is the same?
[08:45] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: yes
[08:45] <Ungy_> and which line is highlighted first?
[08:45] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: the one i just wrote
[08:45] <Ungy_> which was what line?
[08:46] <Ungy_> numerically counting from top first line being 0
[08:47] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: yone sec
[08:47] <eDRoaCH> the debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1) blah blah blah blah
[08:47] <mika0800> Hello, is there any way to force the Ubuntu installation program to load the 3c509 driver for my Etherlink III ISA 3c509B network card?  That would be a big help, because the installer will then make all other network-related configuration automatically. If this module is loaded with modprobe later, then I must do all network configuration manually instead (which I would like to avoid to do)
[08:48] <eDRoaCH> ive tried for 2 weeks with 2 cd roms, 3 burned cds, 2 video cards, and now a THIRD HD and SECOND ENTIRE COMPUTER
[08:48] <mika0800> The question is about the Hoary = 5.04 version of Ubuntu with 2.6.10 kernel
[08:48] <eDRoaCH> same fucking error every time
[08:48] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: ## ## End Default Options ## do i count from there?
[08:49] <eDRoaCH> i hear this is a great os for multilingual, but its not an os at all if it wont install
[08:49] <eDRoaCH> any1 feel like telling me wth is going on?
[08:49] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, first title after that is 0  then I also need you to tell me what number it is when the grub menu appears that is highlighted
[08:49] <B_166-ER-X> what is the command to change manually the resolution (byterminal)
[08:49] <Hendikins> eDRoaCH: After that little outburst, I'm keeping my paws off it.
[08:50] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: anyway i can just get grub to re-write the list?
[08:50] <eDRoaCH> alright
[08:50] <eDRoaCH> back to fedora it is
[08:50] <eDRoaCH> that os installs
[08:50] <Hendikins> Flies, honey, vinegar.
[08:51] <ajmitch_> plenty of vinegar there
[08:51] <Hendikins> Exactly.
[08:51] <gnomefreak> he has a bad iso lol
[08:51] <gnomefreak> oh well
[08:51] <damian_> yucky fedora
[08:51] <narles> i cannot get sound with VLC.. output shows
[08:51] <narles> [00000290]  main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `QDM2'.
[08:51] <narles> VLC probably does not support this sound or video format.
[08:51] <mika0800> btw: is there any way to check in advance, what kernel version comes with each distro? Or is the only way either to install a distro and run uname -a or ask someone with that distro installed ?
[08:51] <CanYouHelpMePlz> can anyone help me with http://pastebin.com/496457 grub is trying to boot a kernel i deleted?
[08:51] <gnomefreak> damian_, agreed
[08:52] <Hendikins> I'm happy to help people when: a. They're polite, b. They've tried to help themselves, c. I'm able to. If any or all of the above are untrue, I'm not happy to help.
[08:52] <gnomefreak> mika0800, what distro do you want to know?
[08:52] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, is the kernel you deleted listed on the menu.list?
[08:52] <midwinter> mika0800, google?
[08:52] <narles> i installed gst-ffmpeg-0.8.7.. but still no luck
[08:52] <faux> mika0800, distrowatch has listings of software in different distributions
[08:52] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: not under end of default options no.
[08:52] <Hendikins> and I'm sure plenty of people in here will cringe at the thought of SuSE too
[08:52] <mika0800> So there is not a central place to look in. I read the history about DistroWatch, and they had it, but I think not any more...
[08:52] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, your screwed man dunno what the hell you did
[08:52] <gnomefreak> lol Hendikins its slow yum doesnt compare with apt other than that not really all that bad
[08:53] <tolstoy> my wireless (ipw2200) seems to get a DHCP ip address, but somehow doesn't work.  (no errors in ifconfig, etc, etc).  would an upgrade to dapper have a better chance of working?
[08:53] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: i don't think so
[08:53] <gnomefreak> mika0800, what distro do you want to know about?
[08:53] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: I had no end of trouble with FC1/2/3, on reliable not-cheap hardware
[08:53] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: here is my grub http://pastebin.com/496776
[08:53] <gnomefreak> Hendikins, 2/3 gave me issues 4 really didnt well not htat many
[08:54] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: once bitten...
[08:54] <gnomefreak> :) i know the feeling
[08:54] <MaxEmtSti> Ungy_, im Stole_mKd on that forum, can u see what my problem is there, please?
[08:54] <damian_> tolstoy: are you using network manager by any chance?
[08:54] <Hendikins> twice bitten, three times bitten...
[08:54] <Hendikins> (same goes for Mandrake/Mandriva)
[08:54] <CanYouHelpMePlz> can somone PLEASE tell me what the problem with http://pastebin.com/496776 is, grub tries to load a kernel i deleted.
[08:54] <tolstoy> damian_: yes
[08:54] <damian_> hmmm
[08:55] <gnomefreak> Hendikins, screw mandriva updates kept over writing grub
[08:55] <mika0800> I think I will test Ubuntu 5.04 for now. I am looking for any distro with 2.6.10 kernel, no older and no newer.
[08:55] <damian_> I might have the same problem as you.
[08:55] <damian_> that dhcp address...does it belong to a wired network?
[08:55] <gnomefreak> mika0800, go with ubuntu 5.10
[08:55] <Nivko|Linux> hi
[08:55] <Ungy_> CanYouHelpMePlz, ok put a # in front of the hiddenmenu and reboot and give me what is listed when it tells you to select a kernel
[08:55] <tolstoy> damian_: it's on an hp nw8240.  very frustrating.
[08:55] <Nivko|Linux> i have a question
[08:55] <Nivko|Linux> i have 2 pcs
[08:55] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: ok.
[08:55] <Nivko|Linux> a linux pc en a windows
[08:55] <damian_> cause I get a dhcp address that is totally bogus
[08:55] <mika0800> gnomefreak: and how can that be used with 2.6.10 kernel ?
[08:55] <gnomefreak> its got a 2.6.12 kernel
[08:55] <tolstoy> damian_: yeah, it think so.  my wireless ap is connected to a wired router.  has always worked before.
[08:55] <Nivko|Linux> networking from windows to linux
[08:55] <Nivko|Linux> i get a login screen
[08:55] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: I dropped Mandrake after the horrid 8.x series.
[08:55] <damian_> and it belongs to the "wired network" even though there is no cable.
[08:56] <gnomefreak> mika0800, how mandatory is it you run a 2.6.10 kernel?
[08:56] <Nivko|Linux> by user i type my account name from linux
[08:56] <damian_> oh hmm
[08:56] <Nivko|Linux> en by password my password
[08:56] <Nivko|Linux> it isn't working..
[08:56] <tolstoy> damian_: i even set my router to grant an IP based on the mac address, and that actually happens.
[08:56] <gnomefreak> Hendikins, they didnt get much better
[08:56] <tolstoy> damian_: not that it solved anything.
[08:56] <Pr0ph3t> hey guyz
[08:56] <TranceRiver> Hm, http://www.isellsurplus.com/product.asp?id=9330&c=7&s=54 that's the computer I am running Ubuntu on.  What does it mean when it says AGP NLX?
[08:56] <damian_> is the ip you get from dhcp totally off from your network?
[08:56] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: Well aware of it. At least SuSE hasn't given me headaches.
[08:56] <gnomefreak> i guess im kind of confused at what a 2.6.10 can give you that 2.6.12 cant
[08:56] <Pr0ph3t> to fix my mbr, boot, what I have to do ?
[08:56] <TranceRiver> I't's a little slow with dragging and such.
[08:57] <tolstoy> damian_: compiling the latest drivers from scratch didn't work, and it's not easy.  requires you to comment out kernel header lines, etc.  not too portable.
[08:57] <TranceRiver> I'm going to try to get a graphics card, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[08:57] <mika0800> very. Older than that may not support things like USB-IrDA -adapters (like Actisys IR-4000U or xtech's cheap one). And newer than 2.6.10 will break Borland Kylix IDE's integrated debugger. So no choice here.
[08:57] <tolstoy> damian_: no, it's a valid ip.
[08:57] <damian_> oh
[08:57] <Nivko> hi
[08:57] <damian_> but it just doesn't work?
[08:57] <Nivko> can somone help me with my problem?
[08:57] <Ungy_> MaxEmtSti, I have never done it personally so I am not a good person to ask
[08:57] <gnomefreak> mika0800, 2.6.12 should support 2.6.10 drivers
[08:57] <tolstoy> damian_: right.  I even sent pings, things bling, but it says the host is unreachable.
[08:58] <damian_> did you try connecting with gnome's network interface?
[08:58] <tolstoy> damian_: I even checked route -n.  looks good.  looks just like my working laptop.
[08:58] <damian_> it could be a network manager issue.
[08:58] <tolstoy> damian_: yes.  still no go.
[08:58] <MaxEmtSti> Ungy_, thx anyway
[08:58] <Nivko> Can somone help me with my problem: I have a windows and linux pc if i networking from the windows one to the linux i get a login screen i fill in the account info and i press enter but it isn't working..
[08:58] <damian_> bummer.
[08:58] <tolstoy> damian_: I can't even get the ndiswrapper stuff to work either: dll.HAL symbol unknown, or something like that.
[08:58] <TranceRiver> I cannot figure out what NLX means.
[08:58] <mika0800> The first thing I want to do is confirm that Kylix IDE and it's integrated debugger indeed run with no problems eith 2.6.10 kernel. If so, that's a good kernel for me. I am currently running Debi9an sarge with 2.4.27.
[08:58] <damian_> why do you need ndiswrapper?
[08:59] <damian_> if you have ipw2200
[08:59] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[08:59] <Nivko> can somone help me?
[08:59] <Nivko> ..
[08:59] <tolstoy> damian_: because I'm at a total loss and will try anything. ;)
[08:59] <tolstoy> damian_: thinking of trying dapper.  if that doesn't work, then fc4.
[08:59] <Nivko> Can somone help me with my problem: I have a windows and linux pc if i networking from the windows one to the linux i get a login screen i fill in the account info and i press enter but it isn't working..
[09:00] <damian_> oh ok, but it won't work with ndiswrapper I dont think.
[09:00] <Nivko> Can somone help me with my problem: I have a windows and linux pc if i networking from the windows one to the linux i get a login screen i fill in the account info and i press enter but it isn't working..
[09:00] <Pygi> tolstoy: no, not dapper just yet :/
[09:00] <Eleaf> hi
[09:00] <Pygi> Nivko: WAIT
[09:00] <tolstoy> damian_: right.
[09:00] <Pygi> !patience
[09:00] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[09:00] <Nivko> ok..
[09:00] <mika0800> Nivko: first thing to chech: if U have a software firewall on the Windows system, check that it is not blocking your LAN networking
[09:00] <tolstoy> Pygi: why not?  something particularly broken?
[09:00] <Nivko> nope it isnt blocking
[09:00] <Nivko> iam net working with 2 other pcs...
[09:00] <Pygi> tolstoy: well the packages are mostly broken....
[09:01] <Nivko> (windows pc's)
[09:01] <Pygi> tolstoy: and some other things as well
[09:01] <Pygi> tolstoy: but if you know what you are doing, you *could* fix it
[09:01] <tolstoy> Pygi: alas!  normally i would think it's too early for dapper for me, but, shit.  I'm desperate!  I wants me wireless! ;)
[09:01] <Nivko> so can somone help me?
[09:02] <Pygi> tolstoy: huh, what seems to be the issue with wireless?
[09:02] <mika0800> the other thing is checking that samba is correctly configured. If your windows is win98, U have only 1 choice about samba username. Win2000 and later gives U the option "login with another userid" or something like that
[09:02] <Nivko> Winxp
[09:02] <Nivko> i have
[09:02] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Ungy_: i fixed it my self, thanks for the help
[09:02] <beaunewcomb> I have a 120gb HD split into 3 partitions.... 1st swap, second linux, 3rd personal files, documents, pictures, etc.  I installed Ubuntu a month ago to the 2nd partition. this morning I reinstalled windows XP and deleted the first two partitions and created 1 new one before my personal files partition.  I installed XP on the first partition.  I get into XP and now I can't see the second partition in My Computer.  Disk Managemen
[09:02] <Pygi> !enter
[09:02] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[09:03] <Nivko> I have WinXP*
[09:03] <gnomefreak> Nivko, im sorry to hear that
[09:03] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Nivko: likewise
[09:03] <mikul> harriet blir aldrig sur
[09:03] <tolstoy> Pygi: the driver loads, i get an IP from the AP, and when I ping, there are no errors via ifconfig.  however, "host unreachable" no matter what command I run.  so, "host google.com" takes a long time, then "host unreachable".  Maybe a time out or something?
[09:03] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do i get programs to auto start with ubuntu again, i forget?
[09:04] <gnomefreak> i have it somewhere too  i think under all my linux cds :)
[09:04] <__null__> CanYouHelpMePlz, add them in gnome-session
[09:04] <Pygi> tolstoy: wrong DNS setting
[09:04] <beaunewcomb> We won't start a linux vs xp war here... I still run linux on another box
[09:04] <mika0800> beaunewcomb: a good advice: if U have windows/linux dual(or triple) boot, install GRUB in the linux /boot -partition, NOT into MBR. Only if Linux is the only operating system in a PC, then install GRUB into MBR
[09:04] <beaunewcomb> i really need help getting access to this partition
[09:04] <tolstoy> Pygi: but it's the same setting as my other laptop, and if I ping an IP address, I get the same thing.
[09:04] <CanYouHelpMePlz> __null__: an wheres that at?
[09:04] <Nivko> if somone have a other reason why it isn't working please mail me at niels@nivko.nl
[09:04] <Nivko> i must go now
[09:04] <Nivko> bye
[09:04] <Pygi> gnomefreak: lol, you should see the CVS of Firefox :DDDD
[09:04] <__null__> can-o-worms, system -> preferences -> session
[09:05] <gnomefreak> mika0800, i have grub on my mbr with win2k and ubuntu
[09:05] <Pygi> tolstoy: and it works on laptop?
[09:05] <beaunewcomb> No, i want to access this partition from within windows
[09:05] <CanYouHelpMePlz> __null__: got it thanks
[09:05] <garyc> what is the website for pasting
[09:05] <beaunewcomb> no, i NEED to access this partition from within windows. :)
[09:05] <tolstoy> Pygi: my other laptop works fine.  network-manager has it all figured out.
[09:05] <gnomefreak> most people put grub on mbr
[09:05] <Falstius> beaunewcomb: install ext3fs drivers for windows ...
[09:05] <tolstoy> Pygi: my other laptop uses some sort of orinoco driver I have to compile myself when the kernel updates, but it works.
[09:05] <mika0800> gnomefreak. yes, if U do it in a particular order, it will work. But what happens if U need to reinstall Win2k ?
[09:06] <beaunewcomb> !ext3fs drivers
[09:06] <ubotu> beaunewcomb: No idea
[09:06] <Pygi> tolstoy: well, have you done this at this one as well?
[09:06] <Pygi> freaky: try firefox 1.6a1 :DD
[09:06] <gnomefreak> mika0800, depends in win2k on my first hard drive or sencond?
[09:06] <gnomefreak> Pygi, for linux?
[09:06] <Pygi> freaky: yup
[09:07] <gnomefreak> Pygi, does it work?
[09:07] <tolstoy> Pygi: I tried it, but it didn't work.  I might try it again, but, oy.  It's QUITE a process, and the various make installs don't put things in the right place.  I'd hate to have to do that every time a new kernel update comes down from ubuntu.
[09:07] <Pygi> freaky: yes, ofcourse :)))
[09:07] <Pygi> tolstoy: huh, true :/
[09:07] <mika0800> most installers default to putting grub in MBR. And, if linux is the only operating system, then MBR is the right choice. But on dualboot systems I  would put it in /boot -partition of linux. I have done this on several PC's and no problem so far. And I am then free to reinstall either windows or linux if I want to.
[09:07] <Pygi> and your other laptop uses what distro?
[09:07] <tolstoy> Pygi: so I was hoping that, somehow, dapper would be a bit more mature in this respect.  but if it's too broken even for hackwork, then, eh.
[09:07] <gnomefreak> Pygi, lol ill try it on win first i dont care if i break that :))
[09:07] <tolstoy> Pygi: breezy.
[09:08] <Pygi> tolstoy: well, you can use dapper if you want....but expect problems
[09:08] <garyc> can someone help me with this opera problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6816
[09:08] <Pygi> garyc: #opera
[09:08] <bloodless> i've downloaded hsfmodem_7.18.00.07full_k2.6.12_9_386_ubuntu_i386.deb.zip
[09:08] <tolstoy> Pygi: yeah.  i might try it before wiping and trying fedora, just to see if there's some subtle difference.
[09:08] <CanYouHelpMePlz> 
[09:08] <bloodless> how can i install my modem drivers?
[09:08] <mika0800> Oh, and I hate installers which try not to give me the choice... like if they knew better than me where to put the GRUB...
[09:09] <Pygi> tolstoy: huh, not fedora :/ rather if you know what you are doing try it on slackware
[09:09] <tolstoy> Pygi: why slackware (and do they have a one CD install?)
[09:10] <TranceRiver> Do you think a NLX AGP card 16mb would be better than a PCI 16mb card?
[09:10] <TranceRiver> Anyone, that is*
[09:10] <derek_djons> Hi... can anyone help me with a small problem? I'm able to access the network folder and browse to the files on a other computer (samba). But I can't drag the songs into banshee on this pc. How can I add them otherwise?
[09:10] <Pygi> tolstoy: yup, and because on slackware I can help you whatever you want :)
[09:10] <holotone> My laptop has a HDD with two NTFS partitions, one 14GB, one 40GB for storage. I want to turn this XP machine into a dualboot w/ Ubuntu. Would it be safe to just back up the first (14GB partition), wipe it, and do the dual boot install, and not worry about backing up the data partition?
[09:10] <Pygi> !patience
[09:10] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[09:10] <garyc> if there is anyone on here that can help me, i will gladly go to another window
[09:10] <Pygi> anyone out here testing ff1.6a1?
[09:10] <tolstoy> Pygi: hm. four cds.  I wonder if they have a DVD install.
[09:11] <bloodless> let me know how to install modem drivers in ubuntu
[09:11] <gnomefreak> i will be for win shortly :)
[09:11] <Falstius> holotone, probably but there's no guarantee.  Especially if you're inexperienced.
[09:11] <bloodless> i just move from suse to ubuntu
[09:11] <Ungy_> derek_djons, do a true mount
[09:11] <holotone> Crap.
[09:11] <holotone> Ok, then.
[09:11] <Nekomages> having some issues trying to plug my laptop into the tv via the svid port, mainly just nothings showing up on the tv
[09:11] <Pygi> tolstoy: you can use just 1-st one
[09:11] <Pygi> gnomefreak: it works on linux, don't worry "{
[09:12] <bloodless> how can i install .deb file
[09:12] <Pygi> :P
[09:12] <bloodless> ?
[09:12] <tolstoy> Pygi: okay.  well, this will take most of today.  thanks.
[09:12] <beaunewcomb> who can point me in the right direction to download the ext3fs file system drivers for windows XP?
[09:12] <Ungy_> holotone, yes I did somethign similar but I know what I am doign ;-)
[09:12] <Pygi> sudo dpkg -i  package.deb
[09:12] <holotone> How about reccomendations for how I should partition this drive if it was wiped clean? It's 60GB, and I want XP and Ubuntu dualbooted. What size should I make each partition, and what filesystems?
[09:12] <garyc> where can i find the config file with LD_PRELOAD
[09:12] <TranceRiver> Has anyone heard of NLX AGP?
[09:12] <bloodless> Ok
[09:12] <mika0800> U might try sysinternals.com for linux fs drivers for Windows. But no guarantees!
[09:13] <butcherbird> holotone: if u want to write to you xp partitiion in ubuntu i would install xp as fat32 not ntfs
[09:13] <Falstius> holotone, I've been using an ext3fs driver in windows xp very succesfully.
[09:13] <Pygi> away
[09:13] <Ungy_> holotone, ok if you want the files accessible on the data drive from bth machines you ned to make that fat32
[09:13] <holotone> an ext3fs driver would allow win* to write to the linux partition, right?
[09:13] <Falstius> so I have my /home partition in linux ext3 and mount it in both, the windows partition ntfs and the linux reiserfs.
[09:13] <midwinter> holotone, yeah.
[09:13] <Zubzub> how do I open my terminal, it doesn't show at the "start" menu
[09:14] <Ungy_> midwinter, you can mount ext3fs from winnt?
[09:14] <mika0800> Falstius: where did U get extfs drivers for windows? sysinternals? Or somewhere else ???
[09:14] <bloodless> i install ubuntu 5.10 30 mins ago but now on xp
[09:14] <B_166-ER-X> is there a reason for a video bug, in the install of ubuntu ? video cart nvidia 6600 Gt , at install / first boot, the screen become are ***'up
[09:14] <Falstius> mika0800: I'm afraid I don't remember.  I found them while playing with BartPE.
[09:14] <holotone> So, maybe the Win OS partition as NTFS, and a data drive as FAT32?
[09:15] <Rasymas> guys, it's me again
[09:15] <derek_djons> Ungy_, thnx... I'll have a try
[09:15] <midwinter> Ungy_: yes - http://www.fs-driver.org/ (there's a few others, I don't use this one)
[09:15] <bloodless> i try to play audio file, but it gives me a error some thing cannot stream
[09:15] <blood> Can i play a game from windows drive while running linux?
[09:15] <Zubzub> how do I open my terminal, it doesn't show at the "start" menu as said in the documentation
[09:15] <Mr_Molez> is there a program on ubuntu to configure network ?
[09:15] <holotone> Would that make sense? That way I could access all the data, since it's on a FAT drive, but all the WinOS apps and shit are on an NTFS partition for stability..
[09:15] <ubuntu_> Zubzub, applications - accessories - terminal
[09:15] <Rasymas> Anyone wants to tell me how to make my mouse work :) The problem is that it's not moving
[09:16] <Zubzub> yes I know, but it doesn't show
[09:16] <beaunewcomb> mika I found it
[09:16] <Falstius> holotone: that's a common way to do things.
[09:16] <bloodless> you might have serial mouse
[09:16] <Falstius> but you can't install linux on fat32.
[09:16] <holotone> ok, cool.
[09:16] <blood> Can i play a game from windows drive while running linux? (wine)?
[09:16] <Rasymas> maybe, any solutions?
[09:16] <Mr_Molez> Rasymas: You may need to add it to xorg config
[09:16] <mika0800> Just wondering: if I want to burn a DVD-R on Win98, and do it from a 4,7 GB image file... should I: a) install ext3fs drivers for windows and use a local HD or b) burn from a network drive ( 100 Mbps ethernet, linux samba server )
[09:16] <Zubzub> is there some kind of shortcut key combination to acces the terminal?
[09:16] <holotone> Sure, what I mean is: WinOS=NTFS, UbuntuOS=Whatever Linux uses as a FS, and data partition=FAT32
[09:16] <garyc> where is the config file with LD_PRELOAD
[09:16] <woodgrain> i'm trying to install a new pkg -- but synaptic thinks something else I want to keep is broken and is trying to remove it!
[09:16] <bloodless> blod, i'm not sure but you can try because i try only one time its work
[09:17] <Rasymas> Mr_Molez, how to access that one?
[09:17] <MaxEmtSti> how about to share a internet connection through a Proxy server. I have linux Pc connected to internet and XP connected to the linux,whic program to use?
[09:17] <garyc> where is the config file with LD_PRELOAD and OPERA_FORCE_JAVA_ENABLED
[09:17] <Mr_Molez> Rasymas: what type of mouse is it ?
[09:17] <woodgrain> how do I keep this 'broken' package?
[09:17] <mika0800> Rasymas, boot your PC with a Knoppix CD... dows your mouse work then?
[09:17] <garyc> where is the config file with LD_PRELOAD and OPERA_FORCE_JAVA_ENABLED ????????????????
[09:17] <Seveas> garyc: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[09:17] <blood> so how would i go about finding my c: from linux?
[09:17] <robotgeek> garyc: we heard you the first time
[09:17] <Mr_Molez> woodgrain: got it working. had to upgrade to dapper :)
[09:18] <woodgrain> Mr_Molez,  good!
[09:18] <Zubzub> ubuntu_, is there a key combination to acces the terminal?
[09:18] <blood> so how would i go about finding my c: (window drive) from linux?
[09:18] <bloodless> how can i make a dialup connection establish
[09:18] <woodgrain> synaptic thinks a pkg is broken that's not --> how do I overide 'remove' in synaptic?
[09:18] <MaxEmtSti> any 1 to answer
[09:18] <garyc> im sure people know where the location of LD_PRELOAD because its a very important part of linux and they are unwilling to help
[09:18] <mika0800> blood: try this (as superuser): fdisk -l /dev/hda
[09:18] <Seveas> !tell blood about windowsdrives
[09:18] <Mr_Molez> blood: is it in /media or /mnt ? or /windows ?
[09:18] <butcherbird> bood 'sudo fdisk -l' will show paritions
[09:18] <woodgrain> !dapper
[09:19] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[09:19] <mika0800> and then, use mount (and possibly edit /etc/fstab )
[09:19] <Seveas> mika0800, there are tools that make that unneccessary :)
[09:19] <garyc> this is a place to show off to your friends, not a place to help others
[09:19] <ubuntu_> i have no idea, im a newbie, you can probably get the icon back in the menu by using that add applications feature though
[09:19] <blood> i want wow to run using wine
[09:20] <gnomefreak> ubuntu_ use menu editer in system tools
[09:20] <bloodless> how to create a dialup connnection on Ubuntu
[09:20] <blood> i want to know if i can run in through the swap? or how to do that
[09:20] <mika0800> do those tools work on on Ubuntu? Tried that with RedHat, and I was very disappointed about that !
[09:20] <holotone> blood: from my limited experience, WoW MIGHT work, but it's gonna suck. Wine is an emulator, and as such takes quite a bit more processor power to run.
[09:20] <Mr_Molez> is there a program on ubuntu to configure the network ???
[09:20] <braniff> how do i connect to windows xp shares that are part of a *workgroup* and not a domain in breezy ??
[09:20] <gnomefreak> Mr_Molez, yes look under networking?
[09:21] <Seveas> Mr_Milenko, ifconfig :)
[09:21] <blood> i have a 3.2 pent 4
[09:21] <bloodless> let me know, if any body can help me out.
[09:21] <gnomefreak> bloodless,  smae place
[09:21] <gnomefreak> same*
[09:21] <bloodless> aight!
[09:21] <Mr_Molez> gnomefreak: i need a program that doesnt need gnome or kde..
[09:21] <mika0800> I tried to play Windows Space Cadet with Wine. The game starts, but is next to unusable. Fonts are screwed, no sound, and the ball moves very in a very jumpy way...
[09:21] <woodgrain> I can't unmark in synaptic -- synaptic is trying to remove 'broken' pkg but I can stop it!!!
[09:21] <gnomefreak> Mr_Molez, than as Seveas  said ifconfig
[09:22] <Mr_Molez> aww i was hoping i would not have to do ifconfig :(( ok thanks
[09:22] <bloodless> some body told me a command, its correct ... sudo dpkg -i modemconxant.deb
[09:22] <bloodless> ?
[09:23] <TranceRiver> Hmm...., so no one knows what AGP NLX is?
[09:23] <blood> so my drive is 'dev/sda1' how do i search it
[09:23] <gnomefreak> that command looks like it will install that .deb but i dont know what that deb is
[09:23] <bungle> how can i upgrade to firefox 1.5?
[09:23] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[09:23] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:24] <bloodless> this is the deb file name hsfmodem_7.18.00.07full_k2.6.12_9_386_ubuntu_i386.deb
[09:24] <rickard> How do I play divx movies in ubuntu?
[09:24] <blood> with vlc
[09:24] <blood> if u can work it
[09:24] <mika0800> blood: mount it as /mnt/usbstick1 (create that dir 1st). then use mc to search. (warning: if it is a big disk device and the PC has little RAM, U might run into problems...)
[09:24] <thegladiator> rickard, see restricted formats
[09:24] <gnomefreak> bloodless, tha command with that deb there should install that deb but if you have to configure it after that is beyond me
[09:25] <thegladiator> !restrictedformats
[09:25] <ubotu> well, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:25] <rickard> is there any program in sunaptic that can play divx?
[09:25] <MaxEmtSti> what program to use as a proxy server that runs (or has) support for both Linux and XP
[09:25] <bloodless> Ok
[09:25] <gnomefreak> rickard, see above post by ubotu
[09:25] <blood> how do i mount in the terminal?
[09:25] <gnomefreak> !mount
[09:25] <ubotu> methinks mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[09:26] <jawshoewah> when setting up evolution does password enter next to mailnameacount@blah.net?
[09:26] <blood> sweet
[09:26] <powderfinger> !help
[09:26] <mika0800> try for ex. mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbstick1 ...
[09:26] <blood> sudo?
[09:27] <mika0800> add -t auto option right after mount if that does not work
[09:28] <mika0800> yes, in Ubuntu U need sudo....
[09:28] <ZarathustraDK> Anyone know of THE ati-driver-installation-guide-and-troubleshooting-blablabla? I've spend the whole day trying to figure it out...
[09:28] <jawshoewah> nevermind I got it
[09:29] <Seveas> !ati
[09:29] <ubotu> ati is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[09:29] <ZarathustraDK> tried it, didn't work...
[09:30] <braniff> how do i connect to a windows xp share from breezy ?
[09:31] <shinobi319> hey, i just installed ubuntu on one of my computers and i want to wipe the drive and install windows xp...but when the xp setup loads it says no hard drive is found. what can i do?
[09:31] <TranceRiver> When I'm in terminal, I type in a command and then it asks for password and when I try to enter it, my keyboard will not work.
[09:31] <butcherbird> braniff: search for samba at wiki.ubuntu.com sorry dont know exact link
[09:31] <braniff> ok
[09:31] <yatesy> TranceRiver: sure? remember unix does not echo passwords to you
[09:31] <wb> there is no * echo when you enter pwd
[09:32] <butcherbird> braniff: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[09:32] <TranceRiver> 'echo passwords'?
[09:33] <woodgrain> how do I unzip a tar.bz2?
[09:33] <shinobi319> does anyone know how to wipe a hard drive with ubuntu on it so i can install windows xp?
[09:33] <freak_> tar command
[09:33] <wb> tar xfvj xyz.tar.bz2
[09:34] <thegladiator> shinobi319: just format it using windows format . caution : do it at ur own risk
[09:34] <freak_> shinobi319, WinXP can reformat and repartition
[09:34] <gnomefreak> shinobi319, the xp cd will do it for you
[09:34] <boxy> Can someone post their sources.list? mine got screwed up when i updated my kernel and i need to fix that so i can install my nvidia drivers
[09:34] <gnomefreak> ive been using tar xvfz foo.tar.gz :(
[09:34] <freak_> anyone in here experienced with fluxbox?
[09:34] <woodgrain> wb, how come no '-' before the xfvj?
[09:35] <gnomefreak> !compile
[09:35] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[09:35] <tolstoy> Pygi: when you say dapper has broken packages, how broken is it?  broken for a newbie plain old user?  or broken as in you can't log in and work around things via, say, the command line?
[09:35] <Rogerio> Buenas
[09:35] <shinobi319> when i try to install Windows XP it says that no hard drive was found...i tried it 3 times and it always says the same thing
[09:35] <gnomefreak> tolstoy, not for newbie
[09:36] <gnomefreak> tolstoy, install dapper if you dont mind losing everything on that hard drive
[09:36] <thegladiator> shinobi319: format ? didnt work ?
[09:36] <powderfinger> shinobi Why are you here?
[09:36] <gnomefreak> shinobi319, did you delete the partions?
[09:36] <thegladiator> shinobi319: get into DOS prompt and format it and then you can ...
[09:36] <thegladiator> powderfinger: he is using ubuntu atm
[09:37] <tolstoy> gnomefreak: hah!  i've run the devel trees before, but usually only a month or so before release.  never lost a drive.  wow.  lot o things changing, eh?
[09:37] <shinobi319> alright ill try that
[09:37] <shinobi319> thanks
[09:37] <gnomefreak> tolstoy, its not in beta form yet
[09:37] <psusi> shinobi319, if windows says no hard drives found, then it can't see your hardware
[09:37] <gnomefreak> its in alpha
[09:37] <mika0800> linux fdisk or cfdisk will enable U to delete all pertitions if that is what U really want...
[09:37] <tolstoy> gnomefreak: okay.
[09:37] <shinobi319> i know but i already have ubuntu installed on it
[09:37] <psusi> shinobi319, so?  what's that got to do with windows?
[09:37] <shinobi319> i know the hard drive works, but now windows setup cant see it
[09:38] <Thoriolo> i have a noname NIC with a RealTek 8139 chip on it that works fine normally, but for some reason i just cant get the network up and running in ubuntu, anyone have any ideas?
[09:38] <psusi> shinobi319, do you have any kind of special drives?  or just plain ide?
[09:38] <freak_> if you're getting rid of ubuntu you're a traitor shinobi
[09:38] <MonsieurBon> hello
[09:38] <gnomefreak> special drives? like sata?
[09:38] <psusi> shinobi319, windows should see the drive and just show there are unknown partitions on it... if not, it doesn't work with your hardware
[09:38] <boxy> gnomefreak would you mind posting your sources.list on nopaste please?
[09:38] <shinobi319> yea its sata
[09:38] <psusi> gnomefreak, or sata (fake)raid
[09:38] <butcherbird> !easysources
[09:38] <MonsieurBon> does anybody know about musicbrianz? Is there an alternative to amarok, where I don't have to install kde?
[09:38] <ubotu> butcherbird: Are you smoking crack?
[09:38] <gnomefreak> boxy, first why 2nd what is nopaste
[09:38] <mika0800> how about dd'ing from /dev/zero to /dev/hda into MBR 512 bytes of zeros. That will appear to WinXP's installer as a HD in a factory condition (no data)
[09:38] <butcherbird> eh?
[09:39] <shinobi319> i would definately use ubuntu if i understood it
[09:39] <freak_> RAID is useless unless you run a server
[09:39] <shinobi319> i have no one to teach me and ive spent hours trying to install the wireless card
[09:39] <lucasvo> freak_: no it isn't
[09:39] <psusi> shinobi319, then it sounds like windows doens't have a driver that can talk to your hardware... you'll have to find a windows driver disk
[09:39] <zarbel> Hello
[09:39] <boxy> cause mine is goofed up and i need to install my nvidia drivers cause i dont have the right repos and nopaste is a website for pasting like code and text etc google nopaste it'll be the first link
[09:39] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell boxy about easysource
[09:39] <freak_> lucasvo, it is if its just a home PC or a gaming PC
[09:39] <boxy> gnome im in the console ;P
[09:39] <psusi> mika0800, from the sound of it, window doesn't see the drive at all... what partitions are on it doesn't matter
[09:39] <TranceRiver> When I put ' sudo apt-get install libstdc++5' into terminal, it asks for a password.  I try giving it a password, but it doesn't do anything.
[09:39] <trkorecky> If I would set my Windows machine to dual-boot with Ubuntu, then later decide to remove Linux, how does one go about removing the boot loader?  Is the process easy?
[09:40] <TranceRiver> It doesn't accept my key inputs.
[09:40] <boxy> ill try it in links though
[09:40] <psusi> freak_, most definately not... I run a raid0 for speed
[09:40] <psusi> speeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed!
[09:40] <gnomefreak> ah ok hold on let me see if i can find this
[09:40] <shinobi319> all of the cds that came with the hardware dont have linux drivers on them and i dont understand the "makefile" kernel process
[09:40] <thegladiator> can someone suggest a nice font ?
[09:40] <lucasvo> freak_: RAID1 is quite reasonable
[09:40] <lucasvo> no need to daily backup
[09:40] <thegladiator> legible and good looking
[09:40] <lostblur> i have a LAN set up with 2 pcs and a NAS, the Ubuntu pc is able to see the NAS and the WINXP laptop just fine. i have set up one of the mounted HDs to be a SHared folder in Ubuntu, but the winxp laptop does not see it, what could be the problem?
[09:40] <blood> is there a way i can have the adress of the folder im in to copy/paste the (adress bar in windows)
[09:40] <psusi> to give you some idea of what kind of speed.... my system takes 20 seconds to boot to desktop login
[09:40] <freak_> well, if i lose a hard drive, i'll just buy a new one and beat my games over again
[09:41] <pinkisntwell> what is the daemon that checks the repos and notifies you of any updates?
[09:41] <lostblur> blood: CTRL +L
[09:41] <Ungy_> blood you mean copy from destop to remote desktop?
[09:41] <mika0800> trkorecky: if U do as I adviced and install GRUB into the /boot -partition and NOT into the MBR, deleting linux is auper-easy: just run Windows's FDISK and set the active partition to C:
[09:41] <boxy> thanks gnomefreak ill give this a try
[09:41] <psusi> lucasvo, raid1 only protects from hard drive failure, not deleting or overwriting important data ;)
[09:41] <freak_> anyone here have experience with FluxBox on Ubuntu???
[09:41] <lostblur> is that what you meant?
[09:41] <jean> anyone got sound working for powerpoint presentations in openoffice impress
[09:41] <lucasvo> psusi: yeah, but as i said less need to backup
[09:41] <zarbel> Hello i'm searching for french people :) i've just install ubuntu...
[09:42] <midwinter> !fr
[09:42] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[09:42] <jean> is power point .ppt supposed to have sound included?
[09:42] <psusi> lucasvo, for a server that needs to stay up, raid1 is good... for soho or home use, I'd go with rsync snapshot backups to the second drive... provides protection against messing up files
[09:42] <boxy> gnomefreak do you know what i need to add to my sources.list so i can apt-get nvidia-kernel?
[09:42] <freak_> so no fluxbox users in here? i feel so alone :(
[09:42] <trkorecky> mika0800: I already have Windows installed.  If I would make a new partition and install Ubuntu there, all I need to do is install the boot loader into /boot and everything should work?  And to remove, I just delete the Linux partitions and extend my Windows one?
[09:42] <gnomefreak> hold on i have mine pasted
[09:43] <jean> trkorecky: yes but windows must be removed completely
[09:43] <trkorecky> psusi: Raid 0+1 for servers has speed and backup capabilities
[09:43] <trkorecky> jean: Why must I remove Windows?
[09:43] <mika0800> yes. And of course, set the active partition to be linux's /boot when installing linux. Set it back to C: when deleting linux
[09:43] <psusi> trkorecky, raid5 is better imho... more usable space
[09:43] <jean> trkorecky: just a joke
[09:43] <jean> :>
[09:43] <psusi> trkorecky, and faster
[09:43] <CentHOGG> hi, anybody here do wireless ubuntu ppc?
[09:44] <topyli> where can i find an example devilspie config file?
[09:44] <mika0800> Partition Magic is a good tool to have. But if U don't, U might try Linux's QtParted.. .maybe it works 4 U... I did not get it to work properly (using Knoppix from CD)
[09:44] <trkorecky> mika0800: What do I use to set as the active partition?  FDISK in a DOS prompt from a boot disc?
[09:44] <freak_> CentHOGG, wireless in linux is sketchy, you're better off going wired
[09:44] <gnomefreak> boxy, http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/ynHn3j60.html
[09:44] <boxy> thanks gnome
[09:44] <gnomefreak> yw
[09:45] <jawshoewah> what folder are system fonts storedin ?
[09:45] <jean> does powerpoint have sound?
[09:45] <jawshoewah> stored in?
[09:45] <freak_> jean, openoffice impress?
[09:45] <gnomefreak> jean ask at #windows
[09:45] <Bevin> how do I manage which gcc version is currently the default for the system?
[09:45] <mika0800> to set active partition to C:, just boot from a MS-DOS floppy or CD nad run FDISK. The other way: can run win dos prompt only from HD  as well
[09:45] <CentHOGG> freak_: so it's not possible?
[09:45] <gnomefreak> linux doesnt have rights to powerpoint
[09:45] <Papoose> To add a second HD, what format type and access Path is best?
[09:46] <tehdot> quick question, I have a laptop with composite out, does anyone know if the DRI project or any other OS driver projects support it?
[09:46] <jean> freak_: yes impress
[09:46] <psusi> mika0800, it isn't "dos prompt"... XP does not have anything to do with dos... it does have a recovery console though
[09:46] <freak_> CentHOGG, it is, but it may take lots and lots of tweaking, but ubuntu usually autoconfigures what it can, you can try another distro, recompile the kernel with the correct modules, or tweak like hell, heh
[09:47] <mika0800> oh, on some PC's (especially older ones) the /boot -pertition should be in the first 8 Gigabytes of the HD.
[09:47] <mika0800> U may make a dos boot floppy from Win98 for example
[09:47] <freak_> jean, it should have sounds, its meant to be as much like powerpoint as possible, dont quote me on it though, check http://www.openoffice.org/ to double check
[09:47] <tr011> Papoose, if you are going to store too much data in big files, you could use ext3 or ext2, and /media/yournewhd is a good path
[09:47] <kameron> Papoose: it's all up to you really.
[09:48] <jean> freak_: thanks
[09:48] <Papoose> tro: What does access Path mean?
[09:48] <psusi> mika0800, please don't say "U" instead of "you" and other things like that... it is annoying and makes you look silly... is it really that much more work to hit the other two keys?
[09:49] <jean> freak_: i wonder if the sound is included in the file because i have a ppt file here but no sound
[09:49] <kameron> Papoose, i'd suggest ext3 and /media/hdd like tr011 said is good, or /mnt/hdd.
[09:49] <boxy> grrr
[09:49] <boxy> When i try to install nvidia-glx it wants to install linux and linux headers for 386 when i already have the686 versions installed
[09:49] <thegladiator> hi
[09:49] <zoexii> hello, I cannot get gnome baker to recognize a .img disk image file... Is there some way to convert this to ISO within linux?
[09:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Papoose: In linux, extra HDDs appear as part of the main filesystem, not separately lettered drives (as in windows).
[09:49] <thegladiator> hi
[09:49] <sapo> hi folks, i just installed dapper 64bits here, but i kept my 32bits install untouched, is it safe to mount my old /home/usr folder (that is in another partition) in this new install? is it going to mess my 32bits configs?
[09:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Papoose: So access path is where you want it to show up in the filesystem.
[09:50] <psusi> zoexii, .img is not a standard file extention... what kind of data is it supposed to contain?
[09:50] <Papoose> PuMpErNiCkLe ok that makes sense thanks
[09:50] <zoexii> psusi, it is the old mac format for disk images,
[09:50] <BockBilbo> hey
[09:50] <psusi> zoexii, it may be a floppy disk image
[09:50] <BockBilbo> is firefox 1.5 availble in the backports?
[09:50] <psusi> zoexii, ohh... well, what kind of disk image is it?
[09:50] <shinobi319> what is the easiest way to wipe an ubuntu hard drive?
[09:50] <tr011> zoexii, google img to iso
[09:50] <zoexii> psusi, before they switched to .dmg...  no, I know it to be a cd rom image,
[09:50] <Andrew|> is ubuntu the best distro for n00bs?
[09:51] <kameron> Papoose: for example, i have my NTFS partition 'mounted' at /media/ntfs. it's not D:/ or anything like that.
[09:51] <butcherbird> sapo: i might be wrong but cant think of anything that would be different
[09:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sapo: It should be fine - just don't mount it as /home/usr in the new install.
[09:51] <kameron> Andrew|: potentially yes, it certainly makes a good candidate.
[09:51] <tr011> Andrew|, is a good distro for every body
[09:51] <trkorecky> mika0800: So let me get this straight:  I free up some space at the end of my drive for Linux by shortening my XP partition.  I then install Ubuntu in the unpartitioned space, install GRUB in /boot, and use FDISK to set /boot as the active partition?
[09:51] <TranceRiver> When I type in "sudo touch /opt/firefox/extensions/talkback@mozilla.org/chrome.manifest" in the terminal, the next prompt says "Password:" and awaits my call.  I cannot then type in any password, because my keyboard wont work after that.   ANy ideas?
[09:51] <CentHOGG> Andrew|: i would say the friendliest permission-wise
[09:51] <psusi> zoexii, well, if it is a straight disk image without any special mac headers or anything, it should just work... try renaming it to .iso
[09:51] <Xenguy> Andrew|: It is as good, or better, than any IMHO
[09:51] <mika0800> probably (but cannot guarantee this): just rename .img to .iso ... especially if the .img is exactly 1474560 bytes (=18*80*2*512)
[09:51] <sakkew> is ubuntu live cd just a demo, or can i setup a webcam with it?
[09:51] <Andrew|> thanks guys
[09:51] <boxy> Trance it doesnt show what your typing
[09:51] <kameron> trkorecky, yes, except for the last bit about Fdisk, that's unnecessary
[09:51] <sapo> PuMpErNiCkLe, but i want to use my old configs and stuff
[09:51] <tr011> Andrew|, but you always need some beginers nfo... what i mean al depends on how noob you are
[09:51] <zoexii> psusi, will try, thanks.
[09:51] <freak_> anyone with Fluxbox in here?
[09:51] <shinobi319> is there an easy way to wipe an ubuntu hard drive?
[09:52] <kameron> trkorecky, oh sorry, if you install grub to /boot, then yes, you should do that, but it's reccomended that you install grub to the MBR, master boot loader
[09:52] <boxy> rm -rf /
[09:52] <mwe> freak_: yeah
[09:52] <freak_> shinobi319, yes, fdisk
[09:52] <garyc> I would like to paste 2 lines of errors only?
[09:52] <butcherbird> freak_: used to use flux
[09:52] <Papoose> kameron ok so if I wanted more HD's my access path should be /media/HD1 and the other /media/HD2 ... somthing like that?>
[09:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sapo: You could copy them from another location - I'm just worried that if they get overwritten, there could be problems for your 32bit Breezy install.
[09:52] <Andrew|> [20:51:54]  <tr011> Andrew|, but you always need some beginers nfo... what i mean al depends on how noob you are <<--- i know nothing :)
[09:52] <gnomefreak> boxy, hold on i have something you need to use
[09:52] <freak_> butcherbird, on ubuntu?
[09:52] <shinobi319> ok how do i use fdisk (im sorry im kind of new at this)
[09:52] <boxy> shinobi319 if you want to keep the partition rm -rf / if you want to redo the partitions use fdisk
[09:52] <boxy> kay gnomefreak
[09:52] <kameron> Papoose, yes, that's the general convention in ubuntu. you could put it *anywhere* though, like /home/papoose/harddrives/hda
[09:52] <butcherbird> freak_: a little is this ubuntu specific?
[09:52] <trkorecky> kameron: I don't really want to mess with my MBR, in case I would like to remove Ubuntu and quickly return to XP without anything affecting it
[09:52] <psusi> trkorecky, the ununtu installer will automatically prompt you to shrink windows and install to the free space
[09:52] <sapo> PuMpErNiCkLe, hum.. i think i ll just copy the config files from breezy to here, and them mount the partition in another place
[09:53] <sapo> PuMpErNiCkLe,  thanx :)
[09:53] <TranceRiver> Okay.  Does anyone here use Dvorak (the typing layout)
[09:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sapo: np :)
[09:53] <kameron> trkorecky, from fdisk type: fdisk /mbr. that will replace the default windows bootloader, and you will boot to windows without problem.
[09:53] <mika0800> ..
[09:53] <gnomefreak> boxy, add these http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/q3AHZM91.html
[09:53] <tr011> Andrew|, so you could try mandriva is a very very easy distro... and with (too many) wizzards
[09:53] <kameron> trkorecky, or from a live cd such as ubuntu, or knoppix: install-mbr /dev/hda
[09:53] <garyc> can i post 2 lines of errors from the terminal?
[09:53] <mika0800> trk... : /boot should be a separate partition, located in the first 8 gigabytes of the HD. If you just create a /boot -directory (or let the installer do that for you), it may not be so easy...
[09:53] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[09:53] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:53] <freak_> butcherbird, well i installed FB on ubuntu and it didn't link ANYTHING, not even its own themes so im struggling getting the menu configures, the themes linked, and then getting pypanel and aDesklets working with it
[09:54] <psusi> kameron, that's assuming you have an old dos boot disk with dos fdisk on it...
[09:54] <kameron> garyc, yes, but please use the pastebin for anything longer
[09:54] <CentHOGG> !wireless
[09:54] <ubotu> well, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[09:54] <mwe> garyc: only in pastebin or people get pissed
[09:54] <gnomefreak> 98 boot disks :)
[09:54] <kameron> psusi: every dos bootdisk has fdisk
[09:54] <kameron> or 98, etc
[09:54] <gnomefreak> i have 4 or 5 98 boot disks :(
[09:54] <freak_> 98's fdisk sucks
[09:54] <blood> how do i look at my drives again
[09:54] <psusi> mika0800, if you don't have a rather old computer, there is no need for a seperate /boot partition
[09:54] <mika0800> if you cannot move your winXP partition out of  the way to get a new (small) partition in the first 8 GB of your HD, you may have no other choice than to install the GRUB in the MBR.
[09:54] <freak_> just use the fdisk off of DOS6.2 diskettes
[09:54] <kameron> i have 7.10.. the unofficial dos with support for something or other.
[09:54] <trkorecky> So I should just let it take over the standard MBR and then reset it should I decide to remove Ubunut?
[09:55] <gnomefreak> kameron, only problem is me 2k nt and xp dont have boot disks :)
[09:55] <mwe> freak_: so does linux fdisk, though it usually works
[09:55] <kameron> gnomefreak, you can use a 98 disk for those
[09:55] <psusi> kameron, right... which is why i said assuming you have a dos boot disk... most people don't these days... especially if they got a computer that came with XP
[09:55] <gnomefreak> kameron, i know
[09:55] <kameron> psusi, i'm assuming that guy has one, because he mentioned it
[09:55] <psusi> hell, I don't even have a floppy disk drive
[09:55] <mika0800> And, if you install it in the MBR, maybe someone else can tell you more about that choice, because I never do that if I intend to make a dualboot system
[09:55] <gnomefreak> thats why i have the 98 disks around
[09:55] <freak_> mwe, do you use Fluxbox with ubuntu?
[09:55] <blood> how do i look to see what my c: is called in the teerminal
[09:55] <butcherbird> freak_: i didnt have any problems like that when i apt-get'd fluxbox..
[09:55] <mwe> freak_: yeah
[09:56] <gnomefreak> you can get a dos boot disk without having windows :)
[09:56] <kameron> psusi, i don't know how people get by without floppies. boot disks, bios flashes, emergencies.. it's so handy, and they sell for less than $10, how can you afford not to?
[09:56] <kameron> gnomefreak, you can, but it's a nicety
[09:56] <trkorecky> Maybe I'll just let Ubuntu here on my dedicated Ubuntu machine and leave my Windows machine alone for gaming
[09:56] <Xenguy> http://bootdisk.com
[09:56] <freak_> mwe, did yours link all the applications in the menu automaticly and know where all the styles/themes were?
[09:56] <kameron> trkorecky, you can do that, or dual boot, or install windows games in linux!
[09:56] <gnomefreak> kameron, true but windows is yucky to me
[09:56] <freak_> butcherbird, i didnt on Debian 3.1(r0)
[09:56] <gnomefreak> only reason i have it installed is for school
[09:56] <kameron> gnomefreak, not just you. i think i can name 692 people who would agree :P
[09:57] <trkorecky> kameron: My Ubuntu machine is having a hard time running Ubuntu, nonetheless running Windows games
[09:57] <gnomefreak> lol
[09:57] <psusi> kameron, they are 20 year old obsolete piles of crap... I wrote a disk driver for them once and man that hardware sucks... what do you need it for when you have cds?
[09:57] <kameron> trkorecky, ah
[09:57] <mika0800> even in new computers, there is a limit where BIOS can access. IN older computers, that is normally 8 GB, but on some computers may be only 4 or even only 2 GB !
[09:57] <mwe> freak_: I have menu and menu-xdg installed, so the menu was populated
[09:57] <trkorecky> kameron: 664MHz P3, 414MB RAM, hard drive older than Jesus, etc.
[09:57] <mwe> freak_: it also had links to themes in it
[09:57] <mika0800> In new computers, the limit may be more, but there still is a limit
[09:57] <kameron> psusi, i like them :D
[09:57] <kameron> psusi, can you do a bios flash from cdrom?
[09:58] <garyc> I get these errors in terminal. I do not know what M2 is. I tried google to find out what M2 meant. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6817
[09:58] <CentHOGG> anybody here ubuntu & D-link wireless
[09:58] <tr011> trkorecky, the 80286 IBM/ps2 that is just at my left is laughting .... XD
[09:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> blood: 'nano /etc/fstab' and check for the line that says '/' as the mount point
[09:58] <psusi> mika0800, Ummm... no... only older computers have the limit... really, really ancient computers the limit is 512 mb... really old computers it is 2 gb... old computers ( older than say, 3 years or so ) the limit is 8 gb
[09:58] <gnomefreak> kameron, not sure ive only heard of it from floppy
[09:58] <mika0800> does someone know: even if the BIOS supports LBA (on new machines it always does), can GRUB access the HD using LBA, or is it limited to the old CHS system ?
[09:58] <garyc> mwe, i put the errors in pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6817
[09:58] <freak_> mwe, i have those installed but no luck, should i try removing FB completely and reinstalling menu and menu-xdg before installing FB?
[09:58] <kameron> gnomefreak, then my $10 investment was well worth it
[09:58] <psusi> kameron, sure
[09:58] <trkorecky> tr011: heh, I can imagine.  It deeply saddened me to throw away some old 486/DX machines and a P2 333MHz one
[09:58] <gnomefreak> yes i would say so if you got a floppy :)
[09:59] <psusi> kameron, just burn a bootable cd using the floppy disk image
[09:59] <mwe> freak_: or run update-menus maybe
[09:59] <gnomefreak> trkorecky, why would you do that?
[09:59] <kameron> psusi, what about on older machines that don't boot to cds?
[09:59] <psusi> mika0800, grub uses lba if it is supported by the bios
[09:59] <mika0800> I use Linux on several computers, ranging from 120 Mhz pentium to 1200 Mhz AMD Athlon
[09:59] <boz> Can anyone recommend a good program to run live streaming audio over the Net?
[09:59] <Thorio> could anyone please help me fix my network connection on my ubuntu box? i have no idea why it wont work..
[09:59] <freak_> mwe, whats the exact syntax for that line? fbdesk update-menus?
[09:59] <tr011> trkorecky, one month ago i throw  my old celeron 300 mhz... it was only using room space
[09:59] <psusi> kameron, older than what?  6 years?  throw them away ;)
[09:59] <trkorecky> gnomefreak: We had nowhere to go with them, and my father was tired of having them in the house.
[09:59] <kameron> psusi, what about.. umm.. yeah. it's frickin $10, and it comes in handy! that's more than i can say about other computer peripherals and devices.
[09:59] <powderfinger> Anyone know ehere we ca get such @floppy images@?
[10:00] <gnomefreak> :((
[10:00] <kameron> powderfinger, what floppy images?
[10:00] <mika0800> ok, that means that on newer computers the partition where you boot from must be located in the first 137 GB (= 128 GiB) of the HD.
[10:00] <mwe> garyc: what makes you think I know anything about opera? :)
[10:00] <gnomefreak> <<always looking for pcs used
[10:00] <psusi> kameron, I'll stick with me cds ;)
[10:00] <kameron> psusi, i have 2 floppy drives, no cds, i LOVE floppies
[10:01] <mwe> garyc: I know it's a browser. that's about it
[10:01] <kameron> psusi, brand new computer too
[10:01] <trkorecky> tr011: What would be more beneficial for speed with this comptuer: a new hard drive (that holds more than 4GB and isn't old) or new/more RAM?
[10:01] <blood>  /dev/media/sda1 /backup how come that dont work
[10:01] <gnomefreak> mwe you can chat from opera browser too :(
[10:01] <psusi> kameron, you're crazy ;)
[10:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> boz: VLC, or maybe icecast
[10:01] <powderfinger> kameron, eg. Windows 98 boot floopies..
[10:01] <kameron> psusi, kidding :P i have 1 and use it once a month or so
[10:01] <david_m_e> at-large question: (i tried the Samba room first, but its doa over there); i have an XP computer and a Ubuntu/Samba computer; when on the XP computer, the "computers in this workgroup" shows both computers, but when i try to log on to the linux box from the XP box, i get rejected; when i try the net use command, it seems to try, but the username/password are rejected; where do i set up users to allow them to log in to a Linux box from
[10:01] <david_m_e>  another machine (specifically, WinXP) ?
[10:01] <boz> thanks nickle
[10:01] <mwe> freak_: I think you should just type update-menus
[10:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> boz: Or ffmpeg
[10:01] <freak_> mwe, ok
[10:02] <kameron> powderfinger, www.bootdisk.com it's kinda retarded to navigate, but you'll find it eventually. or google DOS 7.10 image
[10:02] <mika0800> in fact, I installed a 200 GB IDE disk using linux, to a very old computer (Pentium 120 MHz, BIOS updated 1999), and connected the IDE disk straight into the motherboard's IDE connector. Linux does that correctly. Win98 does not.
[10:02] <Katie^> Riddell : is that a good or bad thing :p
[10:02] <powderfinger> kameron Thanks off there now
[10:02] <psusi> kameron, of course... any actual msdos image you download is an illegal pirated copy ;)
[10:02] <garyc> kameron, would you look at the errors? do you know what to do about this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6817
[10:02] <Riddell> Katie^: good of course!
[10:02] <Katie^> you from edinrugh?
[10:02] <Riddell> Katie^: yes
[10:02] <Katie^> Argh, that made sense.
[10:02] <mika0800> But you need a recent kernel (2.4.19 or newer) to do that. So I waited for Debian Sarge to do that. Woody's kernel is too old.
[10:02] <kameron> garyc, ill check it in a sec
[10:03] <Katie^> where about
[10:03] <kameron> Katie^, hey there <3
[10:03] <Katie^> hey :)
[10:03] <Katie^> omg, i love this song
[10:03] <blood> to mount a drive in the backup folder i would " /dev/media/sda1 /backup" cause it doesnt work (/media/sda1 is c:)
[10:03] <Riddell> Katie^: polwarth/fountainbridge
[10:03] <Katie^> oh nice, are you at a gym?
[10:03] <Katie^> I'm trying to join, but bannatynes was like 80 p/m
[10:03] <trkorecky> All: What would be more beneficial for speed with my old computer: a new hard drive (that holds more than 4GB and isn't old) or new/more RAM?
[10:03] <kameron> garyc: i've never run opera before
[10:04] <psusi> blondie, there is no /dev/media.. it's just /dev/sda1
[10:04] <boxy> gnomefreak i give up i've broke it. lol
[10:04] <david_m_e> no takers?
[10:04] <kameron> garyc: :P
[10:04] <Riddell> Katie^: I tend to canoe on the canal but the council run PulseCentres have always served me well when I wanted a gym
[10:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> trkorecky: both
[10:04] <Papoose> I formated my HD but it says it is inaccessable
[10:04] <david_m_e> Seveas, u too busy?
[10:04] <psusi> trkorecky, both... or even better, a new computer ;)
[10:04] <mika0800> there is OpenDos for those who need a bootable dos system and have no MS-license for it.
[10:04] <freak_> mwe, didn't work
[10:04] <Katie^> Riddell : Join #ubuntu-offtopic before they all have hissy fits ;)
[10:04] <freak_> or you can just pirate windows like everyone else
[10:05] <trkorecky> PuMpErNiCkLe: psusi I'm not looking to spend much.  Which one of the two upgrades would provide the largest gain in performance?
[10:05] <kameron> trkorecky, ram
[10:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> trkorecky: In performance, probably the RAM.
[10:05] <chriswoodall> is their any ppc distro that will install on an external drive
[10:05] <psusi> trkorecky, what kind of ram and hard drive do you have now?
[10:05] <Katie^> who is it that's selling a computer next month for liek 200 without MS windows
[10:05] <kameron> trkorecky, but popping for a really small hard drive, like 15 gigs, will be extremely inexpensive
[10:05] <psusi> trkorecky, and you are running xwindows on this machine, or using it as a file server?
[10:05] <mwe> freak_: I don't know why. I think it should
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> Katie^,  ya mean the googlepc?
[10:05] <Katie^> ahh, is that who
[10:05] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Katie^: i think it's dell
[10:05] <Katie^> aye, I couldn't remember
[10:06] <freak_> alright well im gonna go into gnome and try reinstalling all this crap
[10:06] <trkorecky> psusi: X.  I wouldn't mind using it as a temporary web server or something (though my ISP does not allow permanent servers)
[10:06] <Dr_Willis> theres a great many places selling Linux based pc's for cheap these days
[10:06] <Brendon> hi all, i'm having trouble with svn i can't seem to commit new changes. Here are the commands i type plus the errors they produce. http://paste.lisp.org/display/15516 Thanks in advance.
[10:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Dr_Willis: Like WalMart. :D
[10:06] <trkorecky> psusi: This computer is mostly for playing around with Linux
[10:06] <RedStalker_Mike> i want to download all debian docs. what .deb package i must to "apt-get" :) ?
[10:06] <mwe> freak_: maybe you idea of reinstalling flux now that you have menu and menu-xdg installed is not a bad idea
[10:06] <Chousuke> apt-cache search documentation
[10:06] <Chousuke> :p
[10:07] <CanYouHelpMePlz> google denied they are going to sell a pc..
[10:07] <psusi> trkorecky, ok... so what kind of ram and disk are in it now? if you plan on running xwindows on it you will want a minimum of 256 megs
[10:07] <freak_> mwe, alright
[10:07] <narles> how do i go about uninstalling VLC?
[10:07] <mwe> freak_: move ~/.fluxbox as well maybe
[10:07] <CanYouHelpMePlz> sudo apt-get remove vl
[10:07] <CanYouHelpMePlz> sudo apt-get remove vlc
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. tv was just showing a air-traffic controller room.. and there was a windows box with a big "it crashed" message box on it..
[10:07] <Dr_Willis> :P
[10:07] <narles> thanks
[10:07] <trkorecky> psusi: I'm not sure about the hard drive, I think it's 5400RPM but it holds 4GB.  The RAM is at 414MB
[10:07] <freak_> mwe, i'll make sure all the conf files are deleted after telling apt to remove everything
[10:08] <psusi> trkorecky, that's a funky number... ram allways comes in powers of two... should be 512
[10:08] <mika0800> now: does anyone know how to force the Ubuntu 5.04 Hoary's installer to load the 3c509 kernel module to get the installer to recognize 3COM Etherlink III 3c509B ISA NIC card ?
[10:08] <psusi> trkorecky, at that point I'd say get a new drive...
[10:08] <Papoose> after I format my new HD Do I have to restart for it to be accessable and show up whereever I made the path?
[10:08] <tehdot> quick question, I have a laptop with composite out, does anyone know if the DRI project or any other OS driver projects support it?
[10:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mika0800: 'sudo modprobe 3c509B'
[10:09] <Dr_Willis> Papoose,  if you fdisked it - you might have to..
[10:09] <mika0800> 512 MB RAM is enough for most purposes. Of course you need more if you do something memory-hungry...
[10:09] <psusi> Papoose, or sudo mount -a
[10:09] <psusi> Papoose, or sudo mount /media/hdd or whatever
[10:09] <trkorecky> psusi: I added all the RAM I had laying around the house.  It's 256+128+32 (alright, 416MB, I can't count)
[10:09] <butcherbird> Papoose: reboot should be a rare occurance
[10:10] <Papoose> All I did was format using GNOME
[10:10] <Note> hi
[10:10] <mika0800> yes, I can do that after install. But how can I do the same during the install, and early enough that it forces the installer to recognize the NIC right where it would some other NIC ?
[10:10] <trkorecky> psusi: I may have another 128MB somewhere, but I don't think it worked with this motherboard, had some error in POST
[10:10] <psusi> trkorecky, lol.... depending on the speed of the ram modules, you might be better off getting rid of the 32mb one.. if it is slower, it will slow them all down so it can keep up
[10:10] <kenderthief> hi all
[10:10] <boxy> is there a way i can basically start my install over to how it was without using the cd cause i did a network install but i had to move all my equipment down there cause of my wifi
[10:10] <butcherbird> Papoose: formatted a parition? you should be able to mount it now then
[10:10] <kameron> powderfinger, find it yet?
[10:10] <boxy> alls i need is the base and ndiswrapper
[10:11] <psusi> trkorecky, and yea... get a better hard drive...
[10:11] <Papoose> butcherbird how :S
[10:11] <kenderthief> I just installed ubuntu on an ibm thinkpad 600 and I need to adjust the color depth to 16bit
[10:11] <butcherbird> Papoose: what did you format it as?
[10:11] <kenderthief> can someone help me figure out how to do this?
[10:11] <Papoose> ext 3
[10:11] <kenderthief> I can only find the resolution and refresh rate
[10:11] <Korupt> anybody here know how to use devilspie?
[10:11] <trkorecky> psusi: I'll see how much I have left after I get a new graphics card for my gaming computer.
[10:12] <mika0800> at least the Ubuntu Live CD wil not let me change to another console during the install phase and do that 'sudo modprobe 3c509B' there...
[10:12] <Note> can you install Linux on a External drive
[10:12] <Papoose> butcherbird format type= ext 3 Path = /media/HD1
[10:12] <Note> or Unix
[10:12] <trkorecky> psusi: Where would be the best place to get an inexpensive hard drive?  Computer shows?  Ebay?  Elsewhere?
[10:12] <mika0800> Is it different for the normal version of Ubuntu (NOt the Live one)
[10:12] <gnomefreak> note there is a big difference between unix nad linux
[10:12] <butcherbird> Papoose: should be as easy as sudo mount /dev/whatever /media/whatever  if unsure of partion number (/dev/hda etc) type sudo fdisk -l to list all paritions
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> trkorecky,  depends on the size you want.
[10:12] <Dr_Willis> trkorecky,  and your budget
[10:12] <Note> gnomefreak: I realize this
[10:13] <psusi> trkorecky, computer shows or ebay... you should be able to pick up a used 7200 rpm drive for dirt cheap
[10:13] <mika0800> new 40 GB HD's from 50 EUR... bigger are of course more (but not much more...)
[10:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mika0800: Try booting in expert mode during the install.
[10:13] <david_m_e> is there an "anonymous" or "guest" type user that can be activated so that i can log in to my linux box from an WinXp box without having to provide a user name and password?
[10:13] <trkorecky> psusi: Alright, I'll look around
[10:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mika0800: Apparently they prompt you for stuff like kernel modules.
[10:13] <kameron> david_m_e, hahaha, no
[10:13] <yatesy> david_m_e: no, linux actually tries to be secure :P
[10:13] <mika0800> yes, but that prompts for "modules from floppy"... what if I don
[10:13] <david_m_e> did u see my earlier question?
[10:14] <Dr_Willis> david_m_e,  you could make a 'public' share i belive.. but you will need to learn how to manually edit the samba config.
[10:14] <Dr_Willis> david_m_e,  the 'using samba' book has examples.
[10:14] <mika0800> ... don't have any floppy but I know that 3c509 driver module is on the install CD...
[10:14] <Dr_Willis> or just make a guest account.
[10:14] <david_m_e> i have an XP computer and a Ubuntu/Samba computer; when on the XP computer, the "computers in this workgroup" shows both computers, but when i try to log on to the linux box from the XP box, i get rejected; when i try the net use command, it seems to try, but the username/password are rejected; where do i set up users to allow them to log in to a Linux box from  another machine (specifically, WinXP)
[10:14] <Note> I am guessing it cannot be installed onan external drive can any OS be installed ona n external drive?
[10:14] <Dr_Willis> well a account named guest, or somthing :P
[10:14] <kameron> david_m_e, don't paste the same thing over
[10:14] <yatesy> ah i see
[10:14] <psusi> Note, yes, linux can be installed on an external drive
[10:14] <yatesy> david_m_e: create a user thats identical to your windows user
[10:14] <Note> psusi: PPC?
[10:15] <gnomefreak> note as long as linux sees it you should have 0 problems externel is same as internel minus the way its connected and the case around it
[10:15] <yatesy> and set your samba password to the same as your windows user account
[10:15] <mika0800> I think the problem is due to a bug in the 2.6 -series kernels: the kernel misidentifies the 3c509 as 3c905 and load the wrong kernel module -which will not work.
[10:15] <yatesy> it won't ask for credentials then
[10:15] <david_m_e> yatesy: where?
[10:15] <yatesy> david_m_e: man smbpasswd
[10:15] <Dr_Willis> david_m_e,  for the users on the linux box to allow windows in.. they must have theur samba password set with 'smbpasswd -a username'  then restart samba
[10:15] <Note> member:gnomefreak: yes but yaboot wont install
[10:15] <david_m_e> thank you Dr Willis
[10:15] <sklav> hi guys
[10:16] <psusi> Note, I don't know a whole lot about macs but I believe so
[10:16] <gnomefreak> i didint see you state it was a mac or not
[10:16] <david_m_e> restarting samba requires logoff/logon or reboot?
[10:16] <Dr_Willis> david_m_e,  that 'using samba' book has details - and its a free download. :P
[10:16] <Note> psusi: Yaboot wont load up
[10:16] <yatesy> david_m_e: no, just restart the service
[10:16] <david_m_e> Dr Willis: i  will try the book again;
[10:16] <Note> thats my problem
[10:16] <powderfinger> david_m_e /etc
[10:16] <sklav> david_m_e no restarting samba is a simple /etc/init.d/smb restart
[10:16] <david_m_e> i DID try the book; i assume u refer to the book on samba.org?
[10:17] <psusi> Note, you mean the mac won't load yaboot, or yaboot fails?
[10:17] <mika0800> does someone know how to tell the Ubuntu installer that I want to load the 3c509 module, but NOT from a floppy, but from the InstallCD ?
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> david_m_e,  theres a book out called 'using samba' its free for download i recall.. i read it ages ago.. and its  the definitive guide :P lol..
[10:17] <Dr_Willis> david_m_e,  by the time i was through chapter 4 - i knew about all i needed to know.
[10:17] <shinobi319> how do i install drivers in ubuntu?
[10:17] <Note> psusi: During install yaboot fails to install
[10:17] <david_m_e> however, this seems to be enuf info; i don't like asking questions without RTM'ng first, but i have been tryhing to figure this out for over a week now
[10:17] <david_m_e> all help appreciated
[10:18] <gnomefreak> shinobi319, what drivers?
[10:18] <Note> basically I cant boot it
[10:18] <boxy> is there a way to remove almost all the packages on my computer with apt-get?
[10:18] <shinobi319> first off my LAN driver
[10:18] <gnomefreak> everything on  a pc uses drivers :(
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> david_m_e,  its fairly straight forward. but it depends on exactly what/how you want to do things
[10:18] <psusi> Note, try installing it by hand
[10:18] <shinobi319> i have no idea what to do...i read up a little and i need to use the "makefile" thing?
[10:18] <mwe> shinobi319: they're installed during boot. just if you need something special you need to do anything
[10:18] <shinobi319> i dont understand it
[10:18] <gnomefreak> shinobi319, what are you installing?
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> shinobi319,  what 'lan' driver are you refering to?
[10:18] <Note> psusi: how would one do that
[10:18] <boxy> is there a way to remove almost all the packages on my computer with apt-get?
[10:19] <psusi> Note, man yaboot ;)
[10:19] <mwe> shinobi319: and then in most cases it's just a matter of loading the right module
[10:19] <mika0800> well, if the installer just lets me switch virtual consoles, maybe I should play tricks with unmounting the floppy and make a symbolic link so the installer will use a directory of the installCD as the floppy ?
[10:19] <gnomefreak> thinks*
[10:19] <mwe> shinobi319: What don't you understand?
[10:19] <shinobi319> well the installation process in linux is entirely different than windows
[10:20] <northie> !java
[10:20] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:20] <damnhil> how do I execute a bash script in simulation? "Print  the  commands  that  would  be executed, but do not execute     them."?
[10:20] <northie> !javadebs
[10:20] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[10:20] <mwe> shinobi319: what's the "makefile" thing ?
[10:20] <shinobi319> i have to use the "makefile" thing and make a new kernel or something?
[10:20] <Papoose> butcherbird Says it can't find
[10:20] <mwe> shinobi319: um yes
[10:20] <gnomefreak> shinobi319, are you going to tell us what you are installing?
[10:20] <sklav> !fonts
[10:20] <ubotu> somebody said fonts was https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[10:20] <mika0800> to list installed packages: put this in a textfile and give it execute rights: COLUMNS=$1 dpkg -l | grep ^i >pak$1.txt
[10:20] <mwe> shinobi319: linux is an entirely different system, so ...
[10:20] <Morrowyn> how do i turnon the numlock key by default, my bios says boot with numlock on, but when i boot into ubuntu , it turns it off :-/
[10:20] <Xenguy> shinobi319: bad questions get bad answers :-) What specifically are you trying to do?
[10:20] <mwe> shinobi319: for what?
[10:20] <shinobi319> would anyone be willing to talk in a private channel? im having a tough time keeping up with this
[10:21] <gnomefreak> Morrowyn,  look at the guide in your help icon it will tell you
[10:21] <gnomefreak> under tips and tricks
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> Morrowyn,  I belive there is an answer to that in the ubuntu wiki's or forums - i forget the details. but i think gnome has a option to do that.
[10:21] <shinobi319> to help me with a few (what i assume are) basic functions in linux
[10:21] <Dr_Willis> :P
[10:21] <butcherbird> Papoose: try typing 'mount' its possible gnome already mounted it
[10:21] <shinobi319> im new to it and i desperately need help
[10:21] <peace> yo
[10:21] <butcherbird> Papoose: that will respond will all mounted devices
[10:21] <northie> Would someone spare a minute to guide me through getting java into firefox?
[10:21] <freak_> mwe, didnt work
[10:21] <gnomefreak> shinobi319, what are you trying to install??????????
[10:21] <sklav> what is the name of the ms true type fonts link?
[10:21] <gnomefreak> !fonts
[10:21] <sklav> package
[10:21] <ubotu> well, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[10:21] <shinobi319> first off my LAN driver
[10:21] <sklav> i checked that
[10:21] <mwe> this is breezy, right?
[10:21] <peace> fufge
[10:21] <peace> fuck
[10:21] <mwe> freak_: this is breezy, right?
[10:21] <freak_> gnomefreak, he doenst know what hes trying to install
[10:22] <peace> oops
[10:22] <shinobi319> i have an ASUS P4V8X-MX motherboard
[10:22] <peace> sorry
[10:22] <freak_> mwe, 5.10
[10:22] <Morrowyn> thanks :)
[10:22] <mwe> freak_: yeah
[10:22] <gnomefreak> freak_, i see that :(
[10:22] <shinobi319> i have the cd
[10:22] <shinobi319> and it says it has linux lan drivers on it
[10:22] <p337> Hi everyone... I am currently installing Kubuntu (5.10) on my laptop for the first time... and it locked up at the part when it says "Starting Hotplug subsystem"... Its been about 10 minutes... any ideas?
[10:22] <freak_> mwe, yea
[10:22] <shinobi319> but i dont know how to install them
[10:22] <mwe> freak_: and menu and menu-xdg is installed
[10:22] <peace> sammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[10:22] <freak_> mwe, yea
[10:22] <peace> yo freak
[10:22] <mwe> freak_: did you do apt-get --purge remove fluxbox?
[10:22] <mika0800> I just downloaded Ubuntu Hoary = 5.04, so I will try to install that... but think that it's going to be hard time to get my 3c509 NIC to work properly..
[10:23] <MonsieurBon> hello
[10:23] <Papoose> butcherbird Didn't respond with it
[10:23] <Mitch_Owen> Hey
[10:23] <mwe> freak_: to get rid of it entirely
[10:23] <MonsieurBon> can somebody tell me what wxPython is?
[10:23] <freak_> mwe, no, i use synaptic package manager, told it to "remove and delete configuration files"
[10:23] <shinobi319> gnomefreak do you think you could help me?
[10:23] <Mitch_Owen> I need help with installing a wireless card with ubuntu
[10:23] <butcherbird> mika0800: i think module for that is included
[10:23] <gnomefreak> MonsieurBon, man python
[10:23] <Mitch_Owen> if someone could PM about this that would be great!
[10:23] <mwe> freak_: same thing I recon
[10:23] <gnomefreak> shinobi319, not without knowing what lan card you are using or anything else
[10:24] <Xenguy> !pm
[10:24] <ubotu> pm is, like, Ask your questions in the channel so that other people may also benefit from answers received.
[10:24] <MonsieurBon> Mitch_Owen, what card have you got?
[10:24] <boxy> WOHOOO
[10:24] <boxy> Finally nvidia decides to install.
[10:24] <freak_> mwe, was it update-menus or menu-update?
[10:24] <gnomefreak> lol boxy
[10:24] <lightbright> sometimes 5mins after when I dial into my ISP, the modem lights go crazy for no reason with incoming data and outgoing data!  ANY ideas what could cause this?  Is some sort of trojan running sending someone my data?
[10:24] <Papoose> butcherbird sudo mound /media/HD1? if that is that path I formated?
[10:24] <Papoose> *mount
[10:24] <mwe> freak_: update-menus from a terminal. then restart fluxbox
[10:24] <shinobi319> gnomefreak can we talk in a  private channel or something? i would really appreciate it
[10:24] <MonsieurBon> gnomefreak, it's not python, it's something different
[10:24] <gnomefreak> man wxpython
[10:25] <butcherbird> Papoose: ah yes if you can navigate to that directory its already mounted probably
[10:25] <lightbright> gnomefreak: any ideas?
[10:25] <Mitch_Owen> MonsieurBon, I have two cards a linksys and a belkin, both wireless  type "b" cards. I just have no clue if it is plug and play and ubutu will recognize or what. and I have no clue how I would set up the wireless connection
[10:25] <gnomefreak> man <whatever its called>
[10:25] <Mitch_Owen> I have probably overlooked a how-to somewhere
[10:25] <gnomefreak> lighti didnt see it
[10:25] <freak_> mwe, nope, still just have "Fluxbox Default Menu"
[10:25] <MonsieurBon> gnomefreak, I haven't got it yet! :)
[10:25] <shinobi319> gnomefreak please i just need like 5 minutes...i have the linux driver for my LAN card but i dont know how to install it
[10:25] <gnomefreak> MonsieurBon, to man it you dont need to have it
[10:25] <MonsieurBon> Mitch_Owen, PCMCIA cards?
[10:26] <gnomefreak> shiwhat card do you have?
[10:26] <mwe> freak_: try update-menus -d to see what it does. see if it mentions anything about fluxbox
[10:26] <MonsieurBon> gnomefreak, but there's no entry! ;)
[10:26] <shinobi319> its an onboard lan card
[10:26] <Mitch_Owen> MonsieurBon, Yes, I believe so PCI cards
[10:26] <gnomefreak> shinobi319, what card
[10:26] <gnomefreak> name of it
[10:26] <shinobi319> on my ASUS P4V8X-MX motherboard
[10:26] <Mr_Molez> how do i take something out of runlevel at command prompt ?
[10:26] <MonsieurBon> Mitch_Owen, that's not the same
[10:26] <sapo> hi, is there a way to copy *just* the *hidden* files of a folder to another?
[10:26] <gerald-volt> anyone know the gcc command to compile C?
[10:26] <gnomefreak> lightbright, no i dont know
[10:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mika0800: http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/BootPrompt-HOWTO-11.html#ss11.1 - does this help at all?
[10:26] <Mitch_Owen> MonsieurBon, they are PCI cards
[10:27] <gnomefreak> gerald-volt, gcc <file.c> -o file
[10:27] <gnomefreak> no <>
[10:27] <gerald-volt> and what library do I use/
[10:27] <gerald-volt> like the .h
[10:27] <butcherbird> Papoose: another command is df -h it shows freespace available should display whatever size partion you formatted
[10:27] <gnomefreak> .c
[10:27] <Mr_Molez> how do i take something out of runlevel at command prompt ?
[10:27] <gnomefreak> for c
[10:27] <gerald-volt> i mean the #include
[10:27] <gerald-volt> whatever
[10:27] <mwe> and the -o is optional it will just get the great name a.out if you leave it out :)
[10:27] <gnomefreak> .h for headers  .sh for bash
[10:27] <MonsieurBon> Mitch_Owen, what chip do they use? most chips are supported by ubuntu. For RTL8180 there's a good opensource driver which you have to compile yourself. But I'm no expert...
[10:27] <gnomefreak> .py python
[10:28] <gerald-volt> no
[10:28] <ante_> Hmm, noobquestion here... But how do I "wget" something? =)
[10:28] <freak_> mwe, last line "update-menus[6889] : Running Method: /etc/menu-methods/fluxbox"
[10:28] <gerald-volt> i mean do I use #include stdio.h ?
[10:28] <gerald-volt> or what/
[10:28] <shinobi319> can anyone please talk to me in a private channel for just a couple minutes to help me learn how to install my LAN driver?
[10:28] <lightbright> does anyone know?
[10:28] <mwe> freak_: that's good
[10:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ante_: wget URL
[10:28] <Mitch_Owen> MonsieurBon, I will check, where would I find such drivers?
[10:28] <sapo> ante_, wget -c http://example.com/example.zip
[10:28] <gnomefreak> #include stdio.h is a header file that you already have
[10:28] <ante_> well, were?
[10:28] <MonsieurBon> Mitch_Owen, sourceforge
[10:28] <gerald-volt> k
[10:28] <sapo> ante_, -c is to resume
[10:28] <mika0800> pumpernickle: the page referred has this important note: "The ether= only applies to drivers compiled directly into the kernel." .. .and, since we are talking about modules here, will not work
[10:28] <Dr_Willis> shinobi319,  for a start - its your 'network card' driver..  you need to find what chipset that mb is using for your onboard network card.
[10:28] <butcherbird> lightbright: what was question?
[10:28] <gnomefreak> all its doing is calling that file to work
[10:29] <ante_> I don't understand a shit about what u're saying :P
[10:29] <Mr_Molez> anyone know how i can stop cupsd starting at boot ? from commandline ?
[10:29] <definity> how can i find my ip in ubuntu?
[10:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mika0800: k
[10:29] <sapo> 
[10:29] <shinobi319> Dr_Willis, i have the MB cd and i have the driver i need
[10:29] <mwe> freak_: look at ~/.fluxbox/menu . see if it has anything in it
[10:29] <sklav> weird
[10:29] <shinobi319> i just dont know how to install it
[10:29] <butcherbird> Mr_Molez: easiest way maybe sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/cupsd
[10:29] <Mitch_Owen> MonsieurBon, what should I be searching for
[10:29] <shinobi319> there is no .exe like in WinXP
[10:29] <gnomefreak> gerald-volt, in like 3-5 mins i will be in #ubuntu-offtopic any more programming questions i will answer there
[10:29] <Thorio> anyone got any theories? my router detects my nic (reports the macadress correctly) ubuntu recognizes my card it seems, but for some reason i cant seem to ping my router even after setting up the network manually.. PLEASE theorize:)
[10:29] <Papoose> butcherbird I did it thanks... it was already mounted but I had to give it an access path in disk manager
[10:29] <Mr_Molez> butcherbird: thanks
[10:29] <Falstius> Mr_Molez: you can delete the link from /etc/init.d/rcS.d or you can use update-rc.d
[10:29] <sklav> it seems if you edit the apt/sources file and uncomment the multiverse and universe they dont show up in synaptic
[10:29] <MonsieurBon> Mitch_Owen, first find out, what chip they're using, then google
[10:30] <cfuerst>  /join #valug
[10:30] <sklav> i had to do it manually in synaptic for them to show up
[10:30] <definity> is there a way that i can do ipconfig in linux to show my ip in konsole
[10:30] <definity> ???
[10:30] <butcherbird> Mr_Molez: to change back only make -x +x
[10:30] <mika0800> Thorio: do you happen to use an old ISA 3CON 3c509 ?
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> shinobi319,  http://www.linux-tested.com/results/asus_p4v8x-mx.html
[10:30] <freak_> mwe, nope, empty
[10:30] <Thorio> mika0800 nope.. some noname crap with a realtek 8139 chip
[10:30] <mwe> freak_: that's really weird.
[10:30] <Dr_Willis> shinobi319,  that site says it has a  On-Board VIA Phine II VT6102    network card.
[10:31] <ubu> newbie:please don't scold me! googled already! question: I want to add DAG Wiers xine "repository" so that I can access it via apt-get. How to do that???
[10:31] <mwe> freak_: what happens if you rm -rf ~/.fluxbox and then rerun fluxbox and update-menus?
[10:31] <Pygi> lol, who needed me a long time ago? :P
[10:31] <mika0800> I have realtek 8139 based integrated ethenet on a laptop. And have succesfully booted it from Knoppix 3.7 (=2.4 -series kernel). 2.6 -kernels seem to misrecognize some NICs !
[10:31] <definity> HOW CAN I FIND MY IP IN LINUX CONSOLE?
[10:31] <freak_> mwe, update-menus tried to read from /home/freak/.menu, which doesnt exist
[10:31] <Thorio> mika0800 have you had a similar problem?
[10:31] <Falstius> definity: /sbin/ifconfig
[10:31] <powderfinger> definity DOn't shout ... ifconfig
[10:32] <sklav> definity, ipconfig
[10:32] <beelzebub1987> you know this channel is one of the most highly populated irc channels on freenode
[10:32] <sklav> ifconfig
[10:32] <beelzebub1987> That's pretty cool
[10:32] <sklav> my mistake
[10:32] <mwe> freak_: but it didn't fail, did it?
[10:32] <freak_> mwe, no
[10:32] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[10:32] <Thorio> mika0800 ive had this card working on zenlinux, but i just cant seem to get it to work in ubuntu
[10:32] <mika0800> Yes, with 2.4 kernel -based Linuxes my 3com ISA 3c509 NIC works fine (so does in Windows). But with 2.6 -kernels, it does not work
[10:32] <definity> Faoh haha
[10:32] <mwe> freak_: I think it should continue anyway
[10:32] <definity> no
[10:32] <ante_> hmm, anyone? where do i write wget etc. ?
[10:32] <Thorio> mika0800 so basically were screwed?:)
[10:33] <shinobi319> Dr_Willis, thank you...but now how to i install the driver for it?
[10:33] <mwe> freak_: what happens if you rm -rf ~/.fluxbox and then rerun fluxbox and update-menus?
[10:33] <damiaan> hi folks, I'm considering to install ubuntu on a really old laptop, a 200mhz system, limited on RAM. Is this an issue? are there better distro's? Also, the live-cd froze starting gnome,...
[10:33] <Dr_Willis> shinobi319,  it should allready be there.  http://www.zeroshell.net/hw/  shows the modiule name as being    via-rhine
[10:34] <CentHOGG> anybody here ubuntu & D-link wireless
[10:34] <shinobi319> i have the installation files here, but the instructions say "compile the source code to generate rhinefet.o)...i have no idea how to "compile the sourcecode"
[10:34] <mika0800> Well, putting some lines to /etc/modprobe and similar I got so far, that PING started to work. Also, using firefox to access a local hardware NAT firewall's net based configuration page also worked. But access to public internet still dod not.
[10:34] <Dr_Willis> shinobi319,  what makes you think you need the 'drivers' have you tried to configuire the network yet?
[10:34] <mwe> freak_: wait
[10:34] <Mitch_Owen> MonsieurBon, Would the best way to find out what chip they are is to look on the company sites...or what do you think?
[10:34] <shinobi319> Dr_Willis can we talk in a private channel for just a couple of minutes?
[10:34] <shinobi319> i could really use your help
[10:34] <__mikem> Ubuntu is definiately the best distribution there is, but I woubt it would work on a machine that old
[10:34] <freak_> mwe, i did rm, restart, update-menus, restart, and it didnt do anything
[10:34] <mika0800> I guess this is either due to missing dns services or missing default gateway
[10:34] <mwe> freak_: I just found out update-menus creates ~/.fluxbox/fluxbox-menu not menu
[10:35] <mwe> freak_: look in ~/.fluxbox/fluxbox-menu
[10:35] <mika0800> And, I was just trying anything I could think of.... so next reboot would revert some of my changes....
[10:35] <mwe> freak_: does it look better?
[10:35] <__mikem> Does anyone know any good programming chat rooms on IRC
[10:35] <freak_> mwe, its there, lemme open gedit
[10:35] <Dr_Willis> shinobi319,  ive about told ya all i can do.. Ive just spent 3 min googling. :p   if you need to learn how to configure your network - the ubuntu wiki/docs cover that.
[10:35] <Pygi> mikem: what do you need?
[10:35] <damiaan> __mikem: what about debian? I've used that a while ago, seemed more flexible...
[10:35] <butcherbird> __mikem: language?
[10:35] <__mikem> C++
[10:36] <MonsieurBon> Mitch_Owen, either, or on the box....
[10:36] <__mikem> Or Assembly language
[10:36] <shinobi319> no i know, and i appreciate it but i just have a couple of basic linux questions
[10:36] <shinobi319> im new to it as of today
[10:36] <Pygi> mikem: are you a beginner?
[10:36] <Papoose> Is it normal for a freshly partitioned drive have 7 GiB used for the partition?
[10:36] <freak_> ubuntu and debian are practicly the same
[10:36] <Mitch_Owen> MonsierBon, I no longer have the boxes...I will check sites
[10:36] <shinobi319> and im having a tough time keeping up with all of this scrolling text in herer
[10:36] <__mikem> No, I am very familior with C++ and I am prety well rounded at ASM
[10:36] <Seveas> __mikem, ##C and #python are nice
[10:36] <__mikem> ok
[10:36] <ubu> newbie:please don't scold me! googled already! question: I want to add DAG Wiers xine "repository" so that I can access it via apt-get. How to do that???
[10:36] <__mikem> thanks
[10:36] <TranceRiver> I created two panels, but the other panel on ubuntu isn't serving as a larger task bar.
[10:36] <TranceRiver> How do I make it do that?
[10:36] <mika0800> I do my programming with Borland Kylix. But for C++, use gcc...
[10:37] <powderfinger> python(+1)
[10:37] <freak_> mwe, yea, theres tons of stuff in it
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> shinobi319,  for general linux help - may want to go to #linux or #linuxhelp
[10:37] <Dr_Willis> shinobi319,  less croweded there
[10:37] <Seveas> ubu, can you give some more info about that repository?
[10:37] <Seveas> (like a url)
[10:37] <jmg> hey guys
[10:37] <shinobi319> ok
[10:37] <gnomefreak> C++ i would use g++
[10:37] <jmg> and girls
[10:37] <freak_> mwe, redirect fluxbox to fluxbox-menu instead of menu?
[10:37] <mwe> freak_: great. now open ~/.fluxbox/init and tell me what the session.menuFile entry says
[10:37] <jmg> anyone got gaim 2 package for ubuntu?
[10:37] <Mitch_Owen> MonsieurBon, I have the box to the Belkin actually. I see no description of what 'chip'
[10:37] <orospakr> hi! is it possible to completely disable dmix in Breezy? Basically I'd like to get alsa back into pre-breezy state.  I am trying to do some proaudio stuff and dmix really gets in the way.
[10:37] <freak_> jmg, only source
[10:37] <Pygi> freaky: welcome
[10:37] <jmg> that supports debian
[10:37] <Seveas> jmg, gaim2 is still beta and buggy
[10:38] <__mikem> G++ is a c++ compiler gnomefreak
[10:38] <gnomefreak> ty Pygi
[10:38] <Pygi> jmg: do NOT use gaim :)))
[10:38] <jmg> orospakr: dmix is disabled by default
[10:38] <JoeBlow> have u guys had any luck with gparted, when i do something with it, i reboot, and then it hasnt done the changes i applied
[10:38] <RedStalker_Mike> gaim rules )
[10:38] <freak_> Gaim2.0.0beta1 for Windows is awesome and pretty stable
[10:38] <__mikem> tahts like saying I don't use .net, I use c#
[10:38] <ubu> http://dag.wieers.com/home-made/apt/
[10:38] <JoeBlow> Pygi, what do u use?
[10:38] <gnomefreak> __mikem, this i know
[10:38] <jmg> Seveas: no, cvs works fine, i want the beta tho
[10:38] <Pygi> redstalker: No, Gaim is extremly uselles :)))
[10:38] <freak_> mwe, i got fluxconf
[10:38] <Pygi> JoeBlow: Fama IM :)
[10:38] <MonsieurBon> Mitch_Owen, have a look into "Gertemanager"  (sorry, don't know the english word...)
[10:38] <butcherbird> JoeBlow: try cfdisk
[10:38] <Seveas> Pygi, -ETOPIC
[10:38] <JoeBlow> butcherbird, is it a prog, or command?
[10:38] <orospakr> jmg, in breezy? I got the impression it was on by default...
[10:38] <Tyrsis> Can someone help me with installing a Wireless Adapter using ndiswrapper ?
[10:38] <mwe> freak_: just look at the file, please. I don't know fluxconf
[10:38] <Pygi> seveas: yup, I'll stop
[10:38] <tolstoy> ubu: I thought dag's repo was for fedora: rpms, pretty much.  has that changed?
[10:39] <butcherbird> JoeBlow: sudo cfdisk its a prog
[10:39] <mwe> freak_: just search for session.menuFile
[10:39] <gnomefreak> no tolstoy they still are as far as i know
[10:39] <ubu> yes. fedora and debian. But I hoped to be able to access them via ubuntu
[10:39] <stephen__> hi, i got problem. I downloaded Mozilla Firefox from website.
[10:39] <david_m_e> yatesy, after reviewing the saved text from earlier, i realized that i had forgotten to thank you - so, thanks - your info helped
[10:39] <freak_> mwe, fluxconf is just a GUI and it has a text field for the path to the menu file
[10:39] <stephen__> How do I get my plugins into the firefox
[10:40] <yatesy> david_m_e: lol no problem
[10:40] <poningru> stephen__: take a look at !firefox1.5
[10:40] <Seveas> ubu, that page mentions nothing about debian packages
[10:40] <Pygi> freaky: written anything??
[10:40] <stephen__> I read that guide
[10:40] <Tyrsis> I have a laptop.. Should I download the Horay version or download Breezey ?
[10:40] <poningru> !tell stephen__ about firefox1.5
[10:40] <stephen__> fooked me up!
[10:40] <freak_> mwe, HAHA!!! IT WORKED!!!
[10:40] <jmg> fama isnt even 0.1
[10:40] <mwe> freak_: yeah. great
[10:40] <freak_> mwe, thanks tons
[10:40] <Pygi> stephen: use ff1.6a1
[10:40] <stephen__> yeah that messed up
[10:40] <mwe> freak_: I don't know why it was broken
[10:40] <gnomefreak> very lil im gonna start after dinner again
[10:40] <Pygi> jmg: yes, I know :))))
[10:40] <stephen__> I got no flash, no java, no nothing anymroe
[10:40] <jmg> orospakr: it should be on by default
[10:40] <stephen__> use ff1.6a1?
[10:40] <poningru> Pygi: dont recomend 1.6 to normal users
[10:40] <butcherbird> Tyrsis: i would def go with breezy esp on laptop
[10:40] <Tyrsis> Ok
[10:40] <gnomefreak> stephen__, dont
[10:40] <_jason> stephen__, create symbolic links in the plugins folder to your old plugins like the wiki page explains
[10:40] <Pygi> poningru: well, it works just fine :))
[10:40] <ubu> so: ubuntu can only access what kind of packages? Only ones from the ubuntu distribution?
[10:41] <poningru> stephen__: its pretty unstable
[10:41] <mwe> freak_: I guess you can consider it a bug
[10:41] <Mitch_Owen> MonsieurBon, is that the only way? I have the two cards sitting next to me not in either computer. Can I use the ubuntu hardware manager to see the chipset if I install it into it?
[10:41] <stephen__> but... when i uninstalled it
[10:41] <freak_> mwe, does your fluxbox use menu or fluxbox-menu
[10:41] <gnomefreak> Pygi, it has a crashing problem on win :(
[10:41] <stephen__> it messed up my FIREFOX
[10:41] <Seveas> ubu, .deb packages
[10:41] <poningru> Pygi: there are tons of bugs in 1.6 branch right now
[10:41] <Seveas> no rpms
[10:41] <orospakr> jmg, yeah, that's my problem. I want to disable it, and I can't find a system-wide asound.conf. which is really confusing.
[10:41] <Pygi> freaky: well, don't use win :P
[10:41] <poningru> well 1.9
[10:41] <gnomefreak> lol Pygi
[10:41] <Tyrsis> ~[ butcherbird ] ~ I did have a problem with my wireless will that possibly fix it ?
[10:41] <Pygi> poningru: found none yet, but even if I find, I think I can deal/fix them
[10:41] <ubu> Aha. deb is something different from debian?
[10:41] <poningru> yeah you can
[10:41] <tolstoy> jmg: i've some gaim beta packages.  I think you can make 'em easily enough, but I've got gaim and guifications.
[10:41] <poningru> but how do you know if stephen__ can?
[10:41] <mwe> freak_: it uses fluxbox-menu. I guess I must have changed it and forgot about it
[10:41] <Seveas> ubu, no
[10:42] <stephen__> what?
[10:42] <sklav> hey guys were does xmms-skins install to?
[10:42] <gnomefreak> .deb=debian
[10:42] <Seveas> sklav, dpkg -L xmms-skins
[10:42] <Mitch_Owen> MonsieurBon, I think I might be able to use this.... http://kwifimanager.sourceforge.net/
[10:42] <Seveas> sklav, I guess /usr/share/xmms/something
[10:42] <MonsieurBon> Mitch_Owen, if ubuntu recognizes that there is any card at all, it should show the chip. But as I said, I'm no expert. maybe someone else could help you better.
[10:42] <gnomefreak> debian is too long for a file extention
[10:42] <sklav> Thank you Seveas
[10:42] <JoeBlow> how come sudo nano /etc/fsdisk doesnt work for me?
[10:42] <mika0800> Thorio, maybe you should make a bug report to either the Ubuntu team or kernel developers. If you do, please mention also, that 3Com Etherlink III mo0del 3c509B does not work
[10:42] <JoeBlow> bring me a empty nano thing
[10:42] <Seveas> JoeBlow, /etc/fstab, not /etc/fsdisk
[10:42] <poningru> sklav: also check .xmms/skin
[10:42] <gnomefreak> JoeBlow, try sudo gedit see if that works
[10:42] <butcherbird> Tyrsis: dont have much experience with wireless cards not lucent or such but breezy seems all around better for hardware support
[10:42] <mwe> freak_: however I think it's a bug
[10:42] <JoeBlow> seveas, way to many beer <<
[10:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mika0800: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/book/appd_06.html section D.6.2 might help
[10:43] <mika0800> I thing the problems are with all 2.6 -kernels. 2.4 -series kernels work just fine.
[10:43] <Mitch_Owen> MonsieurBon, you have been a help Thank you!
[10:43] <ubu> I tried to edit my sources.list and to add dag wiers repository. But it didn't work.
[10:43] <mirak> I have a problem with pmount. After several mounts and unmounts, it just don't work anymore !!!!!
[10:43] <Seveas> JoeBlow, don't mess with essential files after having had way too many beers :)
[10:43] <ompaul> shinobi319, join #help and see what can be done for you
[10:43] <poningru> JoeBlow: rofl
[10:43] <narles> does anyone use gnome-look.org?
[10:43] <Seveas> ubu, that's because he has no .deb packages as far as I can see...
[10:43] <Tyrsis> Ok well I am downloading Breezey now
[10:43] <JoeBlow> Seveas, i installed linux without swap after to many beer, and now im trying to fix it
[10:43] <narles> i'm trying to download different themes for my gnome GUI
[10:43] <mwe> mirak: does it persist after reboot, the problem?
[10:43] <JoeBlow> Seveas, i hate how it wont let u have more then 4 partitions
[10:43] <gnomefreak> new slogan? dont drink and play
[10:44] <sklav> Awesome Seveas that did the trick
[10:44] <freak_> mwe, know where i can post this bug to the fluxbox guys?
[10:44] <poningru> JoeBlow: jus make a logical partition
[10:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mika0800: Or it might not.
[10:44] <narles> do i want to download  a GTK2.x?
[10:44] <blueandwhiteg3> JowBlow: Sounds like it's best to avoid beer and linux :)
[10:44] <mirak> mwe: no
[10:44] <mwe> freak_: it's not a fluxbox bug. it's an ubuntu bug
[10:44] <stephen__> wat should i do
[10:44] <Seveas> narles, http://art.gnome.org/faq.php
[10:44] <mirak> mwe: I tried to restart udev for exemple but it wasn't working
[10:44] <ompaul> JoeBlow, I have 10 partitions on this box ....
[10:44] <skon> Someone know how to only modify a specific module in Bastille?
[10:44] <JoeBlow> poningru, it wont let me in gparted
[10:44] <ubu> OK. Got it. Do have any hint where to find codecs for xine to play dvds and mpeg encoded files?
[10:45] <JoeBlow> ompaul, can u help me make one then?
[10:45] <sklav> I tried ipodlinux
[10:45] <mika0800> Pumpernickle: thanks, but... I have already got so far that PINGing my lan works. But don't know how to get full network functionality. But if there is some way to force the installer to load the correct module for my NIC, then the installer would do all the necessary configuration automatically.
[10:45] <sklav> hehe
[10:45] <sklav> no bad
[10:45] <Seveas> ubu, cipherfunk, /msg ubotu easysource
[10:45] <Tyrsis> Whats the kernel version of Breezey ?
[10:45] <Seveas> Tyrsis, 2.6.15
[10:45] <mika0800> And, I plan to reinstall linux fromn scratch anyway.
[10:45] <Pygi> freaky: have you written it?
[10:45] <ubu> thanks Seveas!
[10:45] <poningru> JoeBlow: use an ubuntu live cd
[10:45] <mwe> freak_: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[10:45] <Bevin> which package provides /lib32/libgcc_s.so.1. ?
[10:45] <Tyrsis> Great, the other one was 6.6 or something
[10:46] <Seveas> Bevin, ia32-libs I think..
[10:46] <poningru> Seveas: um I dont think thats true
[10:46] <gnomefreak> Pygi, i started but i got tied up in win i will be getting back on it in near future tonight
[10:46] <Bevin> Seveas: sadly, not :-(
[10:46] <Tyrsis> Will breezey have the updated version of Ndiswrapper ??
[10:46] <usr13> trying out a 5.04 install, fully updated
[10:46] <ompaul> JoeBlow, if you have had too many beers that might be a bad thing :-)
[10:46] <mwe> Bevin: learn to use apt-file. it will tell you
[10:46] <poningru> 2.6.15 is for dapper
[10:46] <Seveas> Bevin, eh, breezy has .12
[10:46] <Seveas> dapper has .15
[10:46] <JoeBlow> ompaul, but i have no swap!!!
[10:46] <Pygi> freaky: ah well :/
[10:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mika0800: If you can access LAN services but not external ones, it might just be a DNS issue.
[10:46] <usr13> actually a friend of mine installed it on a pretty nice computer
[10:46] <blueandwhiteg3> Is it possible or reasonable to use the debian VLC nightly builds with Ubuntu? http://nightlies.videolan.org/
[10:46] <usr13> and it's nice..
[10:46] <Seveas> Tyrsis, eh, breezy has .12
[10:46] <ompaul> JoeBlow, how did you manage that
[10:46] <Seveas> dapper has .15
[10:46] <Bevin> mwe: I need it, but haven't got it yet
[10:46] <JoeBlow> ompaul, i ran windows without any of that, on a gig of ram no problem, but linux just isnt doing it
[10:46] <usr13> seems to use mostly just sudo
[10:46] <Tyrsis> Ok well I had Horay version
[10:47] <skon> Someone know how to only modify a specific module in Bastille?
[10:47] <Pygi> Horay :))
[10:47] <mwe> Bevin: my apt-file can't find it, suggesting it doesn't exist in ubuntu
[10:47] <Tyrsis> So Breezey should be up to date right ?
[10:47] <ompaul> JoeBlow, have you installed?
[10:47] <mika0800> probably either DNS or the default gateway is missing (I use NAT, so several computers, but only one visible IP from internet)
[10:47] <poningru> blueandwhiteg3: yeah you can its pretty easy
[10:47] <Seveas> Bevin: sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update && apt-file search $soemthing
[10:47] <Dreamglider> does anyone here use Skype ?
[10:47] <Tyrsis> Horay, the laptop version
[10:47] <mwe> Bevin: what are you trying to do and why do you need that file?
[10:47] <usr13> I probably should just leave it that way, but he doesn't know what root password he used
[10:47] <JoeBlow> ompaul, i missed it in the installin gon thisbox, i have like 100 gigs of free space but its set up strangly through many partitions, to wher ei would have like 20 2 gig partitions, and i have 80 gigs of stuff right in the middle that i just cant loose
[10:47] <mika0800> and, that means a hardware NAT device
[10:47] <Bevin> mwe: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/3.4.5/32/libgcc_s_32.so is a symlink to it
[10:47] <Pygi> you mean Hoary I suppose?
[10:47] <Tyrsis> Yes Pygi
[10:47] <mwe> Bevin: ok ubuntu 64bit
[10:47] <JoeBlow> ompaul, better do it in the morning, but how do u get more then 4 partitions, g parted wont let me
[10:47] <mwe> Bevin: I don't know then
[10:47] <Bevin> mwe: which makes the linker using gcc-3.4 not be able to find gcc_s_32
[10:48] <Dreamglider> i cant hear anything when my friend calls me, where can i setup soundcard ?
[10:48] <usr13> it has a "root terminal"  and I suppose it just sudo's to root, Right?
[10:48] <mwe> Bevin: install apt-file and searh for it
[10:48] <mika0800> I think this whole problem is due to a bug in all 2.6 -series kernels
[10:48] <Bevin> mwe: ok, thanks
[10:48] <JoeBlow> ompaul, better do it in the morning, but how do u get more then 4 partitions, g parted wont let me
[10:48] <JoeBlow> ompaul, yea its installed
[10:48] <Bevin> Seveas: thanks
[10:48] <mwe> Bevin: you need to run sudo apt-file update before it will work though
[10:48] <JoeBlow> ompaul, i have a gig of ram, so it installed fine without swap, and rather fast too
[10:48] <poningru> JoeBlow: create an extended partition
[10:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mika0800: Could be either one.  I had a weird problem once where only one computer could access the network that somehow got fixed just by resetting the router. o_O
[10:49] <JoeBlow> poningru, using what?
[10:49] <poningru> JoeBlow: you have to make one of your current partitions an extended one
[10:49] <Bevin> mwe: yeah saveas told me so
[10:49] <ompaul> JoeBlow, fdisk and what you get are is one extented partition into which you drop a lot of others - if your that broken maybe a full reinstall from scratch might be in order
[10:49] <sklav> when you have 1gig of ram swap is barely used
[10:49] <pinkisntwell> I think I lost my /usr/bin/bash, i don't have it
[10:49] <Pygi> freaky: I'll read it tonight or tommorow and respond you then
[10:49] <poningru> JoeBlow: using gparted
[10:49] <ompaul> JoeBlow, wait til tomorrow
[10:49] <sklav> but still recommended for stability reasons i would think
[10:49] <sklav> in the off chance
[10:49] <poningru> JoeBlow: yeah dude wait till tomorow if you are drunk
[10:49] <sklav> that it needs to swap something out of ram
[10:49] <poningru> do some programming though its quite fun
[10:49] <JoeBlow> ompaul, yea lol, i just want to find a way to keep this 80 gigs at the end, and then i can redo everything
[10:50] <ompaul> mit ein karter you can think slowly :)
[10:50] <JoeBlow> ok guys, for reference, tommorrow im serving partitioning questions and advil probably
[10:50] <Tyrsis> When I use ndiswrapper what files do I need ?
[10:50] <mika0800> is there a way to confirm what I suggest: the kernel misrecognizes the 3c509 NIC as 3c905 and load 3c905.ko when is should load 3c509.ko ... and that is why my NIC does not work in any Linux based on any 2.6 -series kernel. But it works just fine in 2.4 -kernel -based linuxes (like Knoppix 3.7, for example)
[10:50] <Seveas> Tyrsis, .sys and .inf files from the windows driver
[10:50] <poningru> mika0800: yeah lsmod | grep 3c905
[10:50] <Tyrsis> Ok how do I install the .sys file ?
[10:51] <Tyrsis> I know how to install the .inf
[10:51] <Seveas> Tyrsis, ndiswrapper -i filename.inf
[10:51] <Seveas> that will install the .sys file too :
[10:51] <Seveas> :)
[10:51] <Tyrsis> ok coolness
[10:51] <Tyrsis> ty Seveas
[10:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mika0800: You could read the source code and see if there's a bug... :)
[10:52] <mika0800> poningru: does that mean, that if the kernel misrecognizes my NIC as I just told, then the cmd "lsmod | grep 3c905" will produce output, otherwise not ?
[10:52] <poningru> yes
[10:52] <sklav> mika0800, just insmod the module
[10:52] <sklav> or use autoprobe module_name
[10:52] <poningru> lsmod | grep 3c509
[10:52] <mika0800> 1. Have no idea where to get it and 2. is it in C or C++ ?
[10:53] <poningru> see if that creates something
[10:53] <keshav> i am new to ubuntu and even linux
[10:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mika0800: A bit of both, IIRC.
[10:53] <mwe> mika0800: blacklist the wrong module and manually load the right one
[10:53] <sklav> mika0800, if the module is built by the kernel it will work
[10:53] <keshav> can anybody help me with wheres the shell
[10:53] <keshav> where we can work on c++
[10:53] <cj> is there an ubuntu .deb repository that has ethereal and openvpn?
[10:53] <sklav> !openvpn
[10:53] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, sklav
[10:54] <mika0800> sklav: insmod? Isn't that something you can do after install. Will load the module, but then I am left doing all network configuration by hand. If there is any way to force the installer to load the correct module, then the installer will autoconfigure the network. Muc better that way!
[10:54] <sklav> mika0800, during the install do crtl+alt+F2
[10:54] <timfrost> cj, both are in universe
[10:54] <sklav> you will get a shell
[10:54] <sklav> then try insmod
[10:54] <mwe> someone needs to help ubotu get rid of that annoying response :)
[10:54] <sklav> the module
[10:55] <sklav> mwe, its kinda funny
[10:55] <sklav> ;)
[10:55] <mika0800> why insmod? insn't modprobe better ?
[10:55] <Mitch_Owen> Bugger....ubuntu is crashing!
[10:55] <sklav> yes modprobe will work also
[10:55] <mika0800> we are talking about 2.6.10 kernel here
[10:55] <Seveas> mika0800, indeed :)
[10:55] <Falstius> cj, I'm running openvpn on ubuntu.  Its in one of the "normal" repositories.
[10:55] <Korupt> in the forums is there a way to change the size of an image?
[10:55] <Seveas> Korupt, try #ubuntuforums
[10:56] <narles> guys i'm having some trouble
[10:56] <mika0800> "<mwe> mika0800: blacklist the wrong module and manually load the right one" - during the install? How ?
[10:56] <mwe> narles: then ask a question and we'll try to help
[10:56] <sklav> mika0800, if your already installed
[10:57] <narles> when i try to sudo tar xzf blank.tar.gz to my usr/share/themes folder
[10:57] <sklav> its easier to edit the modules.conf
[10:57] <cafuego> sklav: modprobe is far better. In fact, don't run 'isnmod'.
[10:57] <mika0800> sklaw: does the normal installer let me use Ctrl-Alt-F2 during the install? The live Ubuntu does not let me do that !
[10:57] <odat> hi everyon
[10:57] <odat> e
[10:57] <narles> it says cannot open: No such file or directory
[10:57] <sklav> mika0800, it lets me last i checked
[10:57] <narles> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[10:57] <narles> tar: Child returned status 2
[10:57] <mika0800> sklaw: yes, but I plan to format the linux partition and reinstall.
[10:57] <mwe> cafuego: because it fails to load dependencies?
[10:57] <mika0800> So it WILL be a new install then
[10:57] <cafuego> mwe: indeed
[10:58] <kfrag> does anyone have a successful install of the ATI drivers?
[10:58] <sklav> i understand but haave you tried from the running system to load the proper module?
[10:58] <skon> How do I restart the Bastille module?
[10:58] <narles> know how to fix this?
[10:58] <mika0800> sklaw: modules.conf is the plave for 2.4 -kernels. NOT so in 2.6 -series !
[10:58] <mwe> skon: what is it?
[10:59] <usr13> I have this 5.04 system fully updated but also have 5.10 disk and wondering if there's any urgent need to reinstall or upgrade to 5.10 ?
[10:59] <mwe> skon: I haven't heard the concept restarting a module before
[10:59] <Korupt> Seveas, I would but they aren't bothering to answer a simple question and are acting quite uncivil
[10:59] <usr13> I do notice one problem, it seems to lock up after a while, when it gets to flying toaster screensaver.
[10:59] <poningru> Korupt: what are you talking about?
[11:00] <mika0800> I tried to read some documents... if I understand correctly, using modprobe will automatically work out any dependencies modules may have on each other. insmod will not? Right ?
[11:00] <skon> mwe: it's a script that hardens system security, but I changed the config file and it doesn't change the permissions yet. i figure restarting would help, but there is only a module for the bastille firewall
[11:00] <timfrost> narles, is blank.tar.gz in the current directory?  If not, you need to type the full path name
[11:00] <Seveas> Korupt, then ask on the forums instead of irc
[11:00] <narles> how do i do that
[11:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> usr13: You can upgrade if you feel like it - I prefer 5.10 to 5.04 - but there's nothing forcing you to do it.
[11:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> usr13: And if the screensaver is a problem, you can disable it in system -> prefs -> screensaver
[11:00] <blueandwhiteg3> poningru: You said it's easy to use the debian nightlies... I am getting all sorts of non-installable packages, dbus, libhal0, etc...
[11:00] <usr13>  PuMpErNiCkLe, can you name any specivic improvements ?
[11:01] <usr13> or bug fixes that are significant?
[11:01] <poningru> blueandwhiteg3: I did what now?
[11:01] <ompaul> usr13, in Oct 2006 you will want to upgrade
[11:01] <poningru> blueandwhiteg3: I did no such thing
[11:01] <narles> timfrost, the tar.gz is on my desktop.. what kind of command should i use to extract it to the directory i'm in
[11:01] <ompaul> usr13, it is coved until oct 2006
[11:01] <poningru> blueandwhiteg3: dont use debian nightlies on ubuntu
[11:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> usr13: Newer versions of stuff, more polish... nothing spectacularly different.
[11:01] <poningru> blueandwhiteg3: dont use any debian packages in ubuntu as a rule
[11:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> usr13: Not like the differences between Breezy and Dapper.
[11:01] <poningru> blueandwhiteg3: there are exceptions ofcourse
[11:01] <mwe> Is there a (if not complete) ubuntu hardware compatibility list?
[11:02] <timfrost> narles, try tar xzf ~/Desktop/blank.tar.gz
[11:02] <Seveas> PuMpErNiCkLe, well, ditching hotplug is a major difference :)
[11:02] <sklav> ok im out
[11:02] <mika0800> Maybe it is time to burn my Hoary = 5.04 CD. Just md5summed the .iso and it seems correct....
[11:02] <freak_> mwe, have you ever used pypanel and/or aDesklets in Fluxbox?
[11:02] <mwe> freak_: no
[11:02] <poningru> !hardware
[11:02] <ubotu> from memory, hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:02] <narles> ok
[11:02] <sklav> Seveas, thank you for the help
[11:02] <sklav> ;)
[11:02] <sklav> cant live without the skins
[11:02] <blueandwhiteg3> "poningru: blueandwhiteg3: yeah you can its pretty easy" was sent after I asked about using the debian VLC nightly repositories... maybe you were referring to beer + linux, my earlier comment :)
[11:02] <Seveas> jeje
[11:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Seveas: That's for Dapper.
[11:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Seveas: We're talking Hoary/Breezy
[11:02] <Seveas> sklav, http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/4Humans.tgz <-- Ubuntu skin :)
[11:02] <poningru> oh doh yeah dude about beer and linux
[11:03] <usr13> Ok, just wonderdering what advantages I might incur.. but it appears to be a pretty nice system, accept for the fact that one of the screensavers seems to make it lock up... or something locks it up.
[11:03] <usr13> not sure
[11:03] <poningru> because I was making fun of the other guy who borked his system drinking
[11:03] <poningru> so sorry
[11:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Seveas: Dapper is gonna be impressive, though - ditch hotplug, start using hardware rendering for the desktop, almost-complete ntfs support... :D
[11:03] <Seveas> !alcohol and system administration are not friends, you should not mess with system essential when drunk :)
[11:03] <ubotu> that's too long, Seveas
[11:03] <Pygi> Pump: ah well :))
[11:03] <Pygi> lol seveas :)
[11:03] <narles> timfrost, thanks
[11:04] <Seveas> ubotu, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[11:04] <ubotu> Seveas: Are you smoking crack?
[11:04] <poningru> blueandwhiteg3: sorry about that dude
[11:04] <powderfinger> !alcohol
[11:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !alcohol
[11:04] <ubotu> powderfinger: No idea
[11:04] <mwe> poningru: have you got any idea how complete that list is? I'm looking for a digital camera and it only seems to list a handful
[11:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !crack
[11:04] <ubotu> The primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.
[11:04] <brenda> beer
[11:04] <powderfinger> snap
[11:04] <Seveas> (ok bot playtime is over...)
[11:04] <poningru> mwe: not complete at all
[11:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !beer
[11:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> SWEET
[11:04] <Pygi> Seveas" aj we;; "{
[11:04] <powderfinger> !snacks
[11:04] <Pygi> ah well*
[11:04] <ubotu> powderfinger: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[11:04] <poningru> mwe: most cameras should work in ubuntu
[11:04] <poningru> !botsnack
[11:04] <ubotu> :)
[11:04] <powderfinger> !kebab
[11:04] <ubotu> powderfinger: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:04] <Seveas> powderfinger, STOP
[11:04] <powderfinger> OK
[11:05] <Pygi> do not abuse ubotu anymore :P
[11:05] <poningru> powderfinger: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:05] <mwe> poningru: ok. any standard it should support or something, do you know?
[11:05] <Wenya> hum.. this channel just might be a bit too busy for support...
[11:05] <poningru> mwe: hold on
[11:05] <globe> can I use apt-get to get a c compiler ?
[11:05] <brenda> it works but i want a program ith borders calanders ect
[11:05] <kameron> glove: apt-get install gcc
[11:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> globe: yeah - apt-get install gcc g++
[11:05] <Pygi> globe: you should already have gcc installed
[11:05] <sklav> not to bad Seveas but FB2 still is awesome ;)
[11:05] <JoeBlow> ok guys good night, see ya later
[11:06] <globe> Pygi: I dont....or at least its not in my PATH
[11:06] <kameron> night JoeBlow
[11:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> globe: Plus a few other packages, but they'll be suggested when you install gcc.
[11:06] <sklav> im out
[11:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> peace out
[11:06] <sklav> see u all later
[11:06] <JoeBlow> kameron, werent u trying to get cs:s working in linux?
[11:06] <Seveas> sklav, bye
[11:06] <poningru> mwe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaDigitalCameras is that what you looked through?
[11:06] <blueandwhiteg3> poningru: no problem... any suggestions for the easiest way get my hands on more recent VLC builds? The stuff is out of date on the ubuntu repository.
[11:06] <kameron> JoeBlow, well, it's on my to do list for today, just installed latest wine, havent got to it yet
[11:06] <Pygi> globe: what version of gcc do you want? I wouldnt reccomend 4.0 if your doing anything *serious*
[11:06] <poningru> blueandwhiteg3: I would say build it yourself
[11:07] <athlon> why not gcc 4 ?
[11:07] <JoeBlow> kameron, get back to me on that man, i would love to get that working on wine, but for mostly half life 2 dm
[11:07] <poningru> blueandwhiteg3: download the latest from their servers and build it yourself
[11:07] <Pygi> athlon: it has problems, bugs and things :/
[11:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> athlon: There are still a few issues with it.
[11:07] <timfrost> globe, the seed package is build-essential.  That package will pull in the compiler and associated tools
[11:07] <JoeBlow> kameron, im working on a mod for hl2 dm, always run, and different weapons, no gravity gun
[11:07] <Pygi> athlon: not really suggested for use in real development projects
[11:07] <kameron> JoeBlow, should be same install for dm and css
[11:07] <kameron> JoeBlow, nice
[11:07] <kameron> JoeBlow, i hate the grav gun
[11:08] <JoeBlow> kameron, yea, so i hope u can figure it out
[11:08] <globe> Pygi, honestly I dont have time to do any C programming on my own.  I am looking for something to complie expocity
[11:08] <blueandwhiteg3> poningru: hmm... sounds like fun. actually, it always is fun... not... 30 libraries to download and compile and install...
[11:08] <JoeBlow> kameron, fin in the single player, but sucks in dm
[11:08] <poningru> brb
[11:08] <globe> timfrost, the seed package?
[11:08] <Pygi> globe: well, you'll be better with gcc 3.4
[11:08] <mwe> poningru: yeah. I don't think it shows a lot though
[11:08] <JoeBlow> kameron, anyway, now im just drunk and tired, later dude
[11:08] <kameron> JoeBlow, haha, later buddy
[11:08] <globe> Pygi, okay, thanks.  apt-get install gcc 3.4?
[11:08] <JoeBlow> kameron, peace
[11:08] <Pygi> gcc3.4
[11:09] <mwe> poningru: I looked at my favorite photo stores home page and couldn't find any of them
[11:09] <timfrost> globe, build-essential is a small package that depends on the compiler and  the other essential packages for development (make, etc)
[11:10] <Pygi> !info build-essential
[11:10] <Mitch_Owen> I am trying to use ubuntus wireless config to get to the internet...but it doesnt seem to be working
[11:10] <Mitch_Owen> does it work with most cards? or no?
[11:10] <globe> timfrost Okay.  does that mean that I need to apt-get build-essential in order to compile ?
[11:10] <tolstoy> Mitch_Owen: I've had good luck with network-manager, though not with this ipw2200 card on this new laptop
[11:10] <timfrost> globe, yes
[11:10] <Pygi> globe: yup
[11:11] <Papoose> how do I access SWAT for Samaba?
[11:11] <Pygi> SWAT = Game?
[11:11] <Pygi> lol :))
[11:11] <Pygi> joking :)
[11:12] <blueandwhiteg3> Any ideas why gnome can't burn DVDs properly? I pop a disc in, all goes well up until I'm about 20% of the way into a burn, then the disc is "done" but most of the data isn't even written.
[11:12] <Pygi> and probably u meant samba
[11:12] <globe> timfrost, thanks...its downloading right now.  Do I still need to get a compiler or does it come with one?
[11:12] <Pygi> globe: well, you have a compiler already
[11:12] <Mitch_Owen> tolstoy, I am using a belkin card right now, in the device manager it is showing up as a linksys card, but it looks alright. I think I set up the network-manager properly but I do not receive internet. Is there anyway to confirm I am config-ing the right card and is there a way to check the connection?
[11:12] <Pygi> just not sure which one
[11:12] <Pygi> I think 3.3
[11:12] <Pygi> but that should be enough
[11:12] <Pygi> !enter
[11:12] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[11:12] <Mitch_Owen> tolstoy, like the connection quality
[11:12] <kameron> powderfinger, i don't know if you ever found that link: http://www.bay-wolf.com/utility/msd710bd.zip <--- but there's a download for it
[11:12] <B_166-ER-X> !sources
[11:12] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:12] <B_166-ER-X> !easysource
[11:12] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:13] <Wenya> I'll try asking my question anyway...
[11:13] <Wenya> I installed Ubuntu yesterday
[11:13] <t_cip> I've got an ATI TV Wonder tuner card. Where would I need to look to find the appropriate drivers for it?
[11:13] <Pygi> !Ati
[11:13] <ubotu> I guess ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[11:13] <Wenya> and during the installation it didn't ask for root password at any point
[11:13] <Pygi> wenya: ofcourse it did not
[11:13] <Mitch_Owen> it shouldnt
[11:14] <Pygi> welcome Ben
[11:14] <Wenya> I mean, it didn't ask me to set a root password
[11:14] <Pygi> wenya: yes, it isnt supposed to ask you that...
[11:14] <Pygi> unless u use expert mode...
[11:14] <Wenya> um..
[11:14] <Gookie> heyyaaa all
[11:14] <Pygi> ubotu tell Wenya about sudo
[11:14] <Pygi> ubotu tell Wenya about gksudo
[11:14] <Pygi> ubotu tell Wenya about kdesu
[11:14] <Wenya> then what on earth was that root password before I changed it!
[11:14] <Pygi> there was no root pass
[11:15] <Pygi> btw. ubotu told u a few things
[11:15] <globe> Pygi.  Thanks for your help.  When I try an do a ./configure for this install script it says that I dont have any compilers in my $PATH
[11:15] <Pygi> globe: well, does it work now?
[11:15] <dooglus> I just got an error trying to cat a file: cat g ==> cat: g: Too many levels of symbolic links
[11:15] <dooglus> where is the maximum number of symlinks set?  and what enforces it?
[11:15] <Dasnipa> append the directory g++ is installed to in your PATH
[11:15] <Gookie> so my USB flash key wasnt "writable" by ubuntu coz it has this FAT format with windows flavour.
[11:15] <Wenya> Pygi: I tried logging in as root without password, and it didn't accept that one either
[11:16] <] m[evilb> synaptic doesnt work with me
[11:16] <Gookie> How do I format it on ubuntu so that windows can read it too?
[11:16] <globe> Pygi. nope...still same msg.  do  Ihave to add the g++ (4.0, turns out) compiler path to my $PATH manually?
[11:16] <Pygi> wenya: thats understandable
[11:16] <timfrost> Pygi,  the default install doen't include a compiler or any development tools
[11:16] <Pygi> globe: why using 4.0? it has number of problems :/
[11:16] <_jason> ubotu, tell Wenya about root
[11:16] <Pygi> timefrost: oh, yes forgot sorry :/
[11:16] <Pygi> globe: have you apt-geted gcc?
[11:16] <freak> anyone have a good file manager/brower (like nautilus or konquerer) for FluxBox?
[11:17] <freak> or non Desktop environment specific
[11:17] !lilo:*! hlieberman invites interested users to ##copyleft , a channel for discussing how to choose a "copyleft" ( http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/copyleft.html ) style license, as well as for discussion of various copyleft licenses and their interaction
[11:17] <pinkisntwell> do I need a samba server on a windows box to be able to access it from ubuntu?
[11:17] <dooglus> I guess it must be a kernel thing
[11:17] <timfrost> globe, has the apt-get install build-essential finished?
[11:17] <globe> Pygi: yep. it said "0 upgraded, "
[11:17] <Pygi> globe: go to synaptic
[11:17] <freak> pinkisntwell, no
[11:17] <Pygi> and search for gcc
[11:18] <globe> timfrost: yep.  it said that it setup g++4.0
[11:18] <Eleaf> mmm
[11:18] <Pygi> globe: just go in synaptic
[11:18] <] m[evilb> synaptic doesnt work
[11:18] <pinkisntwell> freak: then why can't I access the windows box from ubuntu? it works the other way round
[11:18] <Thorio> well incase anyones interested ive decided to give up on getting the rt8139 based NIC to work, so tomorrow im buying a new network card instead (easier and faster, time is money:) ) so to my question: whats a dirt cheap networkcard that works flawlessly with ubuntu?:)
[11:18] <Blippe> my x.org is going haywire and takes up about 50% of the process time on a 2GHz athlon with Xchat and Konqueror on, what can i do?
[11:18] <Pygi> !enter
[11:18] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[11:19] <freak> pinkisntwell, did you setup a unrestricted shared folder on the windows box? XP doesnt do it autmoatically
[11:19] <Papoose> Is Samba Included in the latest bersion of Ubuntu?
[11:19] <Wenya> okay.. that is definetly weird, but good to know, that it wasn't a mistake...
[11:19] <Blippe> Papoose yes
[11:19] <tamale> greetings fellow ubuntu users!    would anyone happen to know if some drivers that I found for my networking card (a gigabit linksys EG1032) that are for version 2.2 and 2.4 will work in my  2.6 ubuntu install?
[11:19] <butcherbird> anyone here using openvpn? does it work well connecting using xp? reg network connections wizard?
[11:19] <pundai> ok has the most recent upgrade messed ip wireless
[11:19] <pinkisntwell> freak: what is an unrestricted share folder? I did share some folders
[11:19] <timfrost> globe, you should have /usr/bin/gcc as a link to /usr/bin/gcc-4.0
[11:19] <pundai> im getting "disagrees about version of symbol" messages wrt ieee stuff
[11:19] <Papoose> Blippe is it installed automatically?
[11:20] <globe> Pygi: okay.  is there a reason that gcc3.4 pkg cant be found in apt-get but it is listed in synaptic
[11:20] <] m[evilb> somebody who can help me with synaptic?
[11:20] <Pygi> globe: not sure :/
[11:20] <Blippe> no, but it is in the repos...
[11:20] <freak> pinkisntwell, by unrestricted i mean remote users have both read and write without a oassword
[11:20] <butcherbird> ] m[evilb: what is the problem?
[11:20] <_jason> globe, gcc-3.4
[11:20] <] m[evilb> it just doesnt work
[11:20] <pinkisntwell> freak: and this isn't by default? How do I change it?
[11:20] <freak> anyone know of a file browser that is non-Desktop environment specific?
[11:20] <] m[evilb> total newbie btw :)
[11:20] <mika0800> tamale: you are the 3rd person here within about 2 hours who cannot get a network card work with 2.6 -series kernel, me being one !
[11:21] <Pygi> timfrost: any particular reason why are u suggesting use of gcc4.0?
[11:21] <globe> _jason .... ooohh I suppose that woulk make all the difference
[11:21] <freak> pinkisntwell, go into properties on the file
[11:21] <butcherbird> ] m[evilb: not finding packages that you need?
[11:21] <pinkisntwell> freak: yes
[11:21] !lilo:*! steveb invites you to his channel, ##seo , for discussions of search engine optimization
[11:21] <] m[evilb> program just doesnt start
[11:21] <freak> pinkisntwell, and make sure the files that are shared are in "Sahred Documents" (for XP)
[11:21] <Blippe> Fuck it, i will solve it the win way, complete reinstall!
[11:21] <pinkisntwell> freak: and it'll work then?
[11:21] <timfrost> globe, gcc 3.4 should be called gcc-3.4.  gcc 4.0 is the breezy defaul;t compiler, but gcc 3.4 is needed for kernel modules
[11:21] <_jason> ] m[evilb, try from a terminal: gksudo synaptic.  See if you get any errors
[11:22] <butcherbird> ] m[evilb: try opening a terminal and typing sudo killall synaptic
[11:22] <freak> pinkisntwell, should, but windows is skrewy so it mgiht not
[11:22] <Pygi> timfrost: and 4.0 has issues
[11:22] <tamale> lol mika.. well, has anyone gotten this linksys gigabit adapter working in ubuntu?
[11:22] <freak> pinkisntwell, sorry :-\, windows blows.... badly
[11:22] <saotome_> very very badly
[11:22] <Pygi> tamale: yes, a lot of people...
[11:22] <tamale> hey at least windows found my network adapter
[11:22] <pinkisntwell> freak: i'm not using windows any more, my brother does
[11:22] <saotome_> i noticed how slow it actually was after a started using gnome
[11:22] <] m[evilb> could take a while, internet also doesnt work, need to install those drivers
[11:23] <mika0800> it seems that currently 2.6 -kernels are not ready for everyone. either you need to be a linuxguru to solve all the problems or then have all the correct hardware for it...
[11:23] <pinkisntwell> all windows got going for it is that it has hardware compatibility and games. oh and gnome's slow
[11:23] <Wenya> I'll come back tomorrow and ask you about how to configure net connections :)
[11:23] <Wenya> but now it's time to sleep
[11:23] <tamale> well, where should I go to get this thing working?
[11:23] <Wenya> thanks for help
[11:23] <freak> finding a network adapter isn't too hard
[11:23] <tamale> am i usin the wrong distro?
[11:24] <] m[evilb> its usb wireless adapter
[11:24] <jacob_> anyone install php on Ubuntu?
[11:24] <freak> but until they make Counter-Strike and World of Warcraft for Linux, im stuck with a computer on windows XP
[11:24] <Pygi> jacob: that's not a problem
[11:24] <jacob_> return to castle wolfenstein on linux rocks
[11:24] <mika0800> 2.4 kernels are not that troublesome with network cards. but then they may have problems with USB-IrDA...
[11:24] <butcherbird> freak: could be wrong but i hear both of those are running well using cedega
[11:24] <freak> jacob_, use debian if you're gonna do a PHP server, its easier and stabler
[11:24] <Pygi> tamale: u can make it work anywhere actually
[11:24] <jacob_> not on AMD64 it's not
[11:25] <freak> butcherbird, but cedega isn't free :-\
[11:25] <tamale> pygi:  care to help instead of simply telling me it's possible? :] 
[11:25] <jacob_> PCI express is not well supported in Debian yet
[11:25] <freak> damn, i remember when cedega was WineX
[11:25] <butcherbird> freak: 5 bucks!
[11:25] <Pygi> tamale: well, I never did it :) I just told you that a lot of people made it working :)
[11:25] <narles> how do i install an icon set
[11:25] <globe> timfrost: okay when I apt-get gcc-3.4 it says that I already have it installed.  I do see the link in /usr/bin .  However my $PATH doesnt have a c compiler still
[11:25] <jacob_> Ubuntu was the easiest to install yet, and it's Debian based
[11:25] <freak> butcherbird, 5 bucks a month last i checked
[11:26] <freak> Debian is my favorite distribution
[11:26] <tamale> pygi:  i realize this, but as a person with it not yet working, simply telling me it's possible does nothing but make me a little more upset
[11:26] <freak> probably the best
[11:26] <_jason> narles, just open system -> preferences -> theme and drag the tar.gz file there
[11:26] <timfrost> globe, what does 'echo $PATH' print?
[11:26] <Thorio> i love ubuntu, i run it perfectly on my laptop, but on my desktop i cant get my network card to run
[11:26] <mika0800> linux should come with a virtual machine where you could install all ms-windows drivers for all your hardware. would be a bit slower, but would make almost all hardware compatible. And, with VM's the kernel could control the security aspects no matter what the win drivers might do...
[11:26] <Pygi> tamale: huh, have you tried ndiswrapper?
[11:26] <jacob_> freak, Debian is my favorite also, but I was unable to get it to run with a 939 slot mobo, with AMD64
[11:26] <Pygi> tell tamale about ndiswrapper
[11:26] <alex_> evening, all
[11:26] <tamale> never heard of ndiswrapper
[11:26] <tamale> <== linux semi-newb
[11:27] <Pygi> tamale, hm, do a google
[11:27] <Pygi> !ndiswrapper
[11:27] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is, like, totally, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[11:27] <jacob_> anyways.... everything is running great on Ubuntu, msyql, apache2, but I just need to install php
[11:27] <Pygi> or see here :)
[11:27] <Thorio> ndiswrapper could probably work, but its easier just to go out and buy a non-realtek based nic:)
[11:27] <jacob_> any php experts in here?
[11:27] <nightwatch> !hardware support
[11:27] <ubotu> nightwatch: Do they come in packets of five?
[11:27] <Pygi> ubotu, tell tamale about ndiswrapper
[11:27] <tamale> this isn't wireless at all
[11:27] <freak> jacob_, 64-bit technology is sketchy with the operating systems we have right now, the only software developers who ahve outstanding stability is Macintosh(Apple)
[11:27] <mika0800> isn't ndiswrapper for network cards only. But it isn't a general way to make ANY device with windows driver to work correctly with linux !
[11:27] <ompaul> jacob_, #php
[11:27] <nightwatch> !alsa
[11:27] <ubotu> methinks alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[11:27] <Pygi> tamale: ubotu just told you :)))
[11:27] <bimberi> ubotu tell jacob_ about lamp
[11:27] <Pygi> please use "Tell" .... THank you :))
[11:27] <jacob_> Lamp eh?
[11:27] <alex_> just a quick question - when I manually take down eth0 ( sudo ifconfig eth0 down ), it comes back up again after around a minute or so! - something sinister going on, or something being 'helpful' in the background
[11:27] <yatesy> freak: you've gotta be kidding me, 64bit has been around for years and years :P
[11:28] <Pygi> !enter
[11:28] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[11:28] <globe> timfrost: a few directories.  /usr/bin exists in the list
[11:28] <tamale> this isn't a wireless issue, this is a linksys PCI gigabit ethernet adapter
[11:28] <jacob_> I use a 64bit Unix which is more than 10 years old at work
[11:28] <nightwatch> !intel hda
[11:28] <ubotu> nightwatch: What?
[11:28] <Pygi> nightwatch: don't abuse ubotu and use tell
[11:28] <globe> timfrost: does it mean anything that when I ls gcc in /usr/bin, the link is shown in red?
[11:28] <Pygi> just pm it
[11:28] <freak> yatesy, it has, i know, but Apple is the only company i think that has awesome stability on their G5 processors, windows and linux don't do so well with it
[11:28] <cello_rasp> are there any download managers that allow wildcards? I used to use "free download manager" on windows but i cant find anything as good..
[11:28] <Thorio> tamale am i guessing correctly when i guess that its realtek 8139 based?
[11:28] <jacob_> amd64 kicks ass for heavy loads on the server
[11:29] <powderfinger> tell hel
[11:29] <tamale> Thorio:  How would i know
[11:29] <nightwatch> Pygi: sorry, I dont know the commands..
[11:29] <jacob_> anyways... Lamp eh?
[11:29] <Pygi> nightwatch: k, np
[11:29] <powderfinger> tell help
[11:29] <bshumate> freak, i've been running 64-bit Sun Ultrasparcs with Solaris for about five years now man
[11:29] <Pygi> yes, server has 64 bit since ages ago :)
[11:29] <tamale> this is a link to the product:
[11:29] <tamale> http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?childpagename=US%2FLayout&packedargs=c%3DL_Product_C2%26cid%3D1115416906419&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper
[11:29] <skon> Someone mind helping me install jre? I did exactly what it says on the wiki, and I'm able to use it via command line but it's not included in the Firefox plugins
[11:29] <freak> bshumate, thats Solaris, not linux or windows
[11:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bshumate: Solaris is in a class of its own.
[11:30] <bimberi> nightwatch: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage :)
[11:30] <ubuntu_> can linux use two swap partitions on different drives at the same time?
[11:30] <jacob_> Solaris = Unix-like O/S
[11:30] <freak> bshumate, Unix kicks ass on 64-bit
[11:30] <mika0800> I just downloaded Ubuntu 5.04... but maybe that was a mistake... Kubuntu 5.04 could be even better... or is there such a thing ?
[11:30] <Pygi> ubotu tell skon about java
[11:30] <Pygi> ubotu tell skon about javadebs
[11:30] <timfrost> globe, yes it means that the link is pointing to a non-existent file.
[11:30] <Pygi> mika: why havent u downloaded kubuntu 5.10 then?
[11:30] <nightwatch> I need rebuild my alsa to get compatibility with my intel hda system sound. I read in some faq in ubuntu website how to do it, but i lost and couldn't find it...
[11:30] <jacob_> Linux can do whatever YOU can do cause it's do it yourself
[11:30] <freak> bshumate, which is what the new macintosh operating system is based upon
[11:30] <bshumate> freak: you said, and i quote "with the operating systems we have right now" is Solaris not an operating system?
[11:30] <Pygi> ubotu tell mika0800 about iso
[11:30] <skon> Pygi, did you not see that I did exactly what it says on the Wiki?
[11:30] <WildZeck> jacob_, tu load apache 2 with php you need not to load php4 package but with apache2 it's name is libapache-mod-php4 or something like that ... php4 is for apache1.3
[11:30] <Thorio> mika0800 if you get it to work, could you send me a /msg ?
[11:30] <bimberi> mika0800: 5.10 is the latest
[11:30] <butcherbird> skon: package name should be j2re1.4 i believe
[11:30] <powderfinger> ubotu tell me about help
[11:31] <Pygi> skon: well, it's kinda crowdy in here :P
[11:31] <freak> bshumate, ok sorry, i meant just the more popular ones
[11:31] <jacob_> Thanks WildZeck that's awesome
[11:31] <Thorio> mika0800 im guessing youre doing it due to the network card problem?
[11:31] <] m[evilb> _jason i got this error "sudo: unable to lookup kyuubi via gethostname()"
[11:31] <globe> timfrost: awesome. how do I fix the link?
[11:31] <bshumate> freak: really? is it based on mmmmmm, say FreeBSD? that's not news to me.
[11:31] <skon> butcherbird, Pygi, j2re1.4 package is already installed
[11:31] <freak> bshumate solaris is too expensive for most home users
[11:31] <Pygi> skon: what is the problem then?
[11:31] <_jason> ] m[evilb, have your recently changed your hostname?  Check if you have any superuse priveleges at all.  Try: 'sudo echo hi'
[11:31] <bshumate> freak: Solaris is free these days dude
[11:31] <skon> pygi: i can view applets in firefox
[11:32] <freak> bshumate, FreeBSD is not as popular as Linux
[11:32] <skon> pygi: can't*
[11:32] <timfrost> globe, sudo ln -sf gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc
[11:32] <Pygi> skon,just a sec pls...
[11:32] <mika0800> Please do not post links to 5.10 download page! I prefer 5.04, because I want 2.6.10 kernel, not newer than that!
[11:32] <] m[evilb> _jason just installed it today
[11:32] <Pygi> skon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:32] <nightwatch> anybody here have an intel MB with HDA(audio) working???
[11:32] <_jason> ] m[evilb, does 'sudo echo hi' fail with the same error
[11:32] <skon> pygi: thanks, I take a look
[11:32] <freak> bshumate, last i heard it ran on expensive as hell sun microsystems hardware, but, i dont follow up on solaris
[11:32] <Thorio> mika0800 you said earlier that your network card worked with 2.6.10 right?
[11:32] <Pygi> skon: yw
[11:33] <skon> pygi: no, that's exactly what I did already
[11:33] <] m[evilb> _jason i'm in windows now, inet doestn work yet
[11:33] <poningru> !firefoxplugins
[11:33] <ubotu> poningru: Not a clue
[11:33] <Pygi> skon: huh :/
[11:33] <mika0800> I don't want the latest kernel. I want to use 2.6.10, because I believe it is the last kernel where Kylix IDE's integrated debugger works correctly. The kernel developers changed something major after that....
[11:33] <] m[evilb> _jason but other sudo commands same error
[11:33] <skon> pygi: i already did exactly what it says on that site
[11:33] <_jason> ] m[evilb, ok, so right now your ubuntu is on another partition?
[11:33] <huhn_2punkt0> Hmmm
[11:33] <fluvvell> anbody familiar with wpa_supplicant?
[11:33] <Pygi> skon: jre1.4?
[11:33] <] m[evilb> _jason yes
[11:34] <skon> pygi: yes
[11:34] <skon> pygi: and sun java too
[11:34] <bshumate> freak : last you heard is old news man.  solaris has run, and continues to run on cheap x86 as wel...anyways, as far as getting facts straight, i think you're a little off-base, that's all. ;-)
[11:34] <fluvvell> my wireless goes up and down every five seconds
[11:34] <globe> timfrost, do I need to be in the directory that holds gcc-3.4 to do that?
[11:34] <poningru> !firefoxplugins is <reply> if you want to install firefox plugins https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins, if you already have plugins installed but lost them when you upgraded to firefox 1.5 look into !firefox1.5
[11:34] <ubotu> okay, poningru
[11:34] <_jason> ] m[evilb, ok to minimize the amount of restarting you have to do, download 'explore2fs'.  That program will let you read your ubuntu files.  I need you to pastebin the following two files; /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname.
[11:34] <_jason> ubotu, tell ] m[evilb about pastebin
[11:34] <nightwatch> anybody here have an intel Motherboard with HDA(audio) working???
[11:35] <tamale> i can see my linksys EG1032 gigabit PCI card under "device manager", but under "Device Type" and "Capabilities" it says "Unknown"          on the Linksys site I downloaded their drivers and they have a 2.2 and 2.4 folder, but inside these folders are only .RPM's, but ubuntu doesn't seem to know what to do with these RPM files
[11:35] <narles> how do you install gtk+engines
[11:35] <freak> bshumate, well i think you're the only person ive heard of using solaris for jack
[11:35] <mika0800> Thorio: My NIC works perfectly with 2.4.27. But with 2.6.10, the installer leaves the NIC non-working. I was able to get it to work at the wardware level, so ping works and http to LAN by IP's work also. But the public internet still does not work.
[11:35] <skon> poningru, how does that help me?
[11:35] <_jason> ] m[evilb, http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
[11:35] <Thorio> ah ok
[11:35] <Pygi> poningru: !firefox1.5 doesn't exist...it's ff1.5
[11:35] <] m[evilb> _jason ty
[11:35] <Pygi> poningru: and don't use 1.5 :)) use 1.6a1 :))
[11:35] <timfrost> globe, no.  When a symlink has no path, that means "look in the directory the link is in".  That is why the target is just gcc-3.4 not /usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[11:35] <freak> anyone have a non-desktop environment specific file manager?
[11:35] <mika0800> I mean PINGing PC's on my own NAT works. PINGing any outside on the internet does not work.
[11:36] <Thorio> mika0800 ok thanks.. im gonna try to buy another network card tomorrow instead.. seems faster than waiting on a working version of ubuntu:)
[11:36] <butcherbird> freak: mc :)
[11:36] <Thorio> seems like ALOT of people are having issues with 8139-based NICs though and its a pretty common chipset so they need to figure this one out fast..
[11:36] <timfrost> mika0800, do you have a default route set?
[11:36] <freak> butcherbird, whats mc short for?
[11:36] <iKernel> Guys, I've got a big problem. I can't use sudo. >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 19 <<<
[11:36] <iKernel> sudo: parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 19
[11:36] <poningru> skon: it doesnt
[11:36] <butcherbird> freak: midnight commander
[11:36] <Pygi> thorio: you can actually make it work...
[11:37] <tamale> Thorio:  How would I know if this card is 8139-based ?
[11:37] <poningru> !firefox1.5
[11:37] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:37] <bshumate> freak: and you're probably the one person i have talked to who knows the absolute least about 64-bit architectures...isn't this just fun? ;-)
[11:37] <mika0800> timfrost: no idea what/how is that set.
[11:37] <nightwatch> where is the hardware compatibility list???
[11:37] <iKernel> So I need to edit the sudoers file, but I can't get into root. Anyway to fix this apart from reinstalling?
[11:37] <bimberi> iKernel: boot into recovery mode and use the visudo command to edit the file
[11:37] <pundai> hi has anyone used the ipw2200 driver here with ubuntu
[11:37] <_jason> iKernel, boot with the live cd and mount the partition
[11:37] <Pygi> poningru: ah, really, it's there now :/
[11:37] <iKernel> ok thanks
[11:37] <poningru> iKernel: why cant you fix it?
[11:37] <mika0800> (sudo) apt-get install mc should work
[11:37] <iKernel> poningru: I just said why
[11:37] <Pygi> ff1.5
[11:37] <Pygi> !ff1.5
[11:37] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:37] <poningru> iKernel: ignore me
[11:38] <tamale> can anyone just tell me if ubuntu is a bad choice for a fileserver ?
[11:38] <Pygi> now you can ask bud anything about network cards :)))
[11:38] <tamale> i can't find any easy software raid management featuereseither
[11:38] <freak> bshumate, dude, 64bit architecture sucks right now, when microsoft gets their heads out of their asses and get longhorn(Vista) out, then64bit arch will be worth the money
[11:38] <whyameye> It appears that the apps I run which use the KDE library are not seeing the fonts that are available to Gnome. Is there a way to fix this? I notice especially with gpdf vs. kpdf
[11:38] <narles> how do i install a new login graphic??
[11:38] <globe> timfrost: thanks a million. I appreciate your patience with a linux newb.
[11:38] <avalost> google gdm themes
[11:38] <freak> bshumate, but until then, most people are running their AMD 64 3500's on the 32bit version of windows
[11:38] <mika0800> well, I will soon test whether is possible during the install of ubuntu switch to another console and then do sudo modprobe 3c509
[11:39] <WildZeck> yes
[11:39] <timfrost> mika0800, are you using DHCP, or are you setting the IP address manually?
[11:39] <insomnd> anybody here familiar with GAG?
[11:39] <freak> butcherbird, know if it runs under fluxbox?
[11:39] <bshumate> freak: you said it and it must be true! and what you're blathering on about now is OT in hear, so whatever...
[11:39] <mika0800> DHCP from my own hardware NAT firewall
[11:39] <timfrost> globe, glad to have helped.  good luck with the compile
[11:39] <globe> timfrost: the ./configure went way past the compiler detection and now it is failing when looking for gtk+-2.0
[11:39] <powderfinger> Is it possible to select DHCP during install?
[11:39] <Pygi> now who needs help with Wireless cards????
[11:40] <tamale>  i can see my linksys EG1032 gigabit PCI card under "device manager", but under "Device Type" and "Capabilities" it says "Unknown"          on the Linksys site I downloaded their drivers and they have a 2.2 and 2.4 folder, but inside these folders are only .RPM's, but ubuntu doesn't seem to know what to do with these RPM files
[11:40] <insomnd> i need an easy to use bootmanager that will allow me to boot from an external CD drive, that doesnt otherwise boot
[11:40] <butcherbird> freak: runs from console so yes
[11:40] <mika0800> Oh, and several people suggest turning off PnP from that 3c509 ISA NIC card. But cannot do that with 3com's dos utilities: thy do not work as they should!
[11:40] <Pygi> bud: read what tamale said
[11:40] <] m[evilb> _jason http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6818
[11:40] <narles> how do i install a new login graphic??
[11:40] <freak> butcherbird, alright, thanks tons, cuz nautilus doens't agree with fluxbox
[11:40] <insomnd> poningru, SBM seems perfect, however the person i am helping doesnt have linux and is not too familiar with gcc, etc.
[11:40] <mika0800> And, why is it that with 2.4.27 -kernel there is no need to turn off PnP. It works just great leaving the PnP enabled !
[11:41] <timfrost> mika0800, the NAT firewall should be advertising itself as the gateway.  Can you check its setup?
[11:41] <freak> bshumate, does it get you off that you think you're right?
[11:41] <iKernel> Booting into recovery mode doesn't help. I'll need to boot from the live cd.
[11:41] <powderfinger> ALL: Is it possible to select DHCP during install?
[11:41] <pundai> narles, gdmsetup as root
[11:41] <ColonelPanique> hey freak, you clueless microsoft troll, how's about cracking open and chugging a forty ounce of stfu, ok?
[11:42] <_jason> ] m[evilb, one sec on phone
[11:42] <mika0800> timfrost: both Winsows machines and Linux machines with 2.4 -series kernel work just fine with my NAT firewall device. It is only this 2.6 -series kernel and 3c509 network card that is the problem
[11:42] <huhn_2punkt0> fuck
[11:42] <bshumate> freak: drop it man...it's offtopic
[11:42] <huhn_2punkt0> nothing works with this shit
[11:43] <mika0800> And I bet that if I could somehow force the installer to recognize the NIC, that would make the installer autoconfigure the NIC just fine. That would be the best solution !
[11:43] <bshumate> sheesh, rough crowd in here on Sundays! ;-)
[11:43] <huhn_2punkt0> wheres that guy that told me I'd do the server install and then install xubuntu?
[11:43] <huhn_2punkt0> it doesn't work at all
[11:43] <freak> ColonelPanique, how am i a microsoft troll?
[11:43] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: what do you get?
[11:43] <bud_> huhn_2punkt0: whats the problem
[11:43] <huhn_2punkt0> well I did install the server version
[11:43] <butcherbird> huhn_2punkt0: waddya mean doesnt work?
[11:44] <huhn_2punkt0> but I don't get no internet connection
[11:44] <tamale> *sigh*
[11:44] <tamale> i think i'll just go try fegora
[11:44] <mika0800> Someone told me to do server install  as well if don't want the gnome. I will install IceWm instead (limited amount of RAM)
[11:44] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: ubuntu starts up all right?
[11:44] <tamale> fedora
[11:44] <huhn_2punkt0> yes
[11:44] <_jason> ] m[evilb, you can fix your problem by editing your /etc/hosts file.  Change '127.0.0.1 localhost' to '127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost kyuubi'
[11:44] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: what internet connection do you have?
[11:44] <Darky469> lo all
[11:44] <huhn_2punkt0> dsl
[11:44] <huhn_2punkt0> the thing is it won't recognize the card
[11:44] <timfrost> globe, apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[11:45] <] m[evilb> _jason tried that in ubuntu, but cant change that file
[11:45] <Darky469> anyone  has  experience  with wine ?
[11:45] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: what card? your network card?
[11:45] <_jason> ] m[evilb, however you will need superuser access to edit it.  Since you can't get it, you'll have to boot with the live cd and mount the partition.  Then edit it.
[11:45] <mika0800> of Linuxes, I have had the best luck with Debian Sarge with 2.4.27 -kernel. But with the 2.6.8 kernel you are likely to run into problems with that too...
[11:45] <freak> anyone use aDesklets in here?
[11:45] <globe> timfrost, how does everybody know what these packages are called? is there an apt-get search function?
[11:45] <_jason> globe, 'apt-get search'
[11:45] <huhn_2punkt0> sorry for being unprecise. yes my network card. I'm using a laptop which has a pluginable network card
[11:45] <skon> globe: apt-cache search
[11:45] <diablo69> sup guys
[11:45] <bud_> globe: apt-cache search
[11:45] <_jason> globe,  err oops yeah what skon said
[11:46] <] m[evilb> _jason dont have live cd
[11:46] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: hmmm I'm not familiar with laptops
[11:46] <_jason> ] m[evilb, you can download the iso and burn it, or are you on dial-up?
[11:46] <globe> now that will come in handy! ;-)
[11:46] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: you can try #xubuntu and #xfce, especially the latter
[11:46] <Darky469> who knows  how  to get  windows explorer working with Wine ?
[11:46] <tamale> pygi:  I take it "bud's" not here
[11:46] <testmachine> xfce is great
[11:46] <testmachine> :)
[11:46] <freak> that it is
[11:46] <timfrost> globe, the search feature is 'apt-cache search'.  Libraries are generally llibxx, and the development version has -dev on the end of the name.
[11:47] <nightwatch> hi there I get my mp3 playing in amarok but no sound.. can anybody help me? my sound card is Intel HDA
[11:47] <bud_> tamale: whats the problem
[11:47] <mika0800> Now I will see soon, whether PartitionMagic 8.0 can succesfully move and resize a linux partition or just make a big (destructive) mess of it...
[11:47] <diablo69> I was trying to install webcam drivers last night, for my creative nx webcam
[11:47] <diablo69> and there wasn't a -r option
[11:47] <Pygi> tamale: see? he is here :)
[11:47] <mika0800> talking about ext3 here...
[11:47] <huhn_2punkt0> pinkisntwell: so far it is an ubuntu problem on the whole as I don't know how to install the network
[11:47] <] m[evilb> _jason downloading it now, hope i find an empty cd :)
[11:47] <diablo69> should I just get a logotech
[11:47] <tamale> bud_:  I can't get my linksys gigabit PCI adapter to work
[11:47] <midwinter> _jason, is he in win in which case he could edit it..
[11:48] <bud_> tamale: when you plug it, what lspci say
[11:48] <_jason> midwinter, he is.  I don't know how, you can explain it to him :)
[11:48] <narles> how do i install a new login graphic with a tar.bz2 file???
[11:48] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: can you find a networking applet? one that lets you configure your network settings?
[11:48] <] m[evilb> tell me how midwinter
[11:48] <bud_> tamale: does lspci recognize it
[11:48] <whyameye> kpdf has font troubles?
[11:48] <freak> anyone use ADesklets?
[11:48] <huhn_2punkt0> that's the thing. its the server version of ubuntu
[11:48] <tamale> bud_:  it says "Linksys Gigabit Network Adapter (rev 10)"
[11:48] <bud_> ok
[11:48] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: but xfce is running right?
[11:49] <Darky469> oke,i think nobody has any experience with wine
[11:49] <huhn_2punkt0> the laptop is too slow for gnome and kde, so I have to get an inet connection to get the xubuntu gui
[11:49] <RedStalker_Mike> i want to download all debian docs. what .deb package i must to "apt-get" :) ?
[11:49] <pundai> Darky469, whats your problem
[11:49] <RedStalker_Mike> need heeelp )
[11:49] <diablo69> <--has experience with wine
[11:49] <huhn_2punkt0> so far I got nothing more than a console
[11:49] <bud_> tamale: is there kernel module for that card
[11:49] <RedStalker_Mike> i want to download all debian docs. what .deb package i must to "apt-get" :) ?
[11:49] <diablo69> but not windows explorer
[11:49] <midwinter> ] m[evilb, you can access your linux partition in win right? in which case you should be able to write to that file
[11:49] <tamale> bud_:  how could i find that out
[11:49] <diablo69> I heard that if you get a logotech cam, ubuntu will support it..is this true?
[11:49] <] m[evilb> midwinter no i cant
[11:49] <Darky469> i wanna  use  explorer  under  wine
[11:49] <bud_> tamale: do you have kernel source
[11:49] <globe> how do I add gtk-2.0 to my $PKG_CONFIG_PATH ? there is nothing in there
[11:50] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[11:50] <huhn_2punkt0> well
[11:50] <mika0800> poningru: you told me to use lsmod | grep 3c905 ... but hey: if the kernel tries to load that, but the machine does not have the 905 NIC, will it really load a useless module, or will that result in a failed load attempt, and if so, wouldn't that make it to not appear in lsmod ?
[11:50] <Papoose> Do if I install the latest version of Ubuntu ... Samba is not installed with it?
[11:50] <huhn_2punkt0> I read that
[11:50] <tamale> bud_:  not yet, can i install that off the ubuntu cd?
[11:50] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: maybe it'll help you
[11:50] <Darky469>  or a  other  brownser under  windows
[11:50] <huhn_2punkt0> It tells me I need an inet connection
[11:50] <narles> how do i install a new login graphic with a tar.bz2 file???
[11:50] <bud_> tamale: i think you can
[11:50] <midwinter> ] m[evilb, sorry then nevermind I thought you had gone ahead and got the ext2fs driver
[11:50] <bud_> install it
[11:50] <huhn_2punkt0> but I can't get the inet connection to work
[11:50] <huhn_2punkt0> see it's a vicious circle
[11:50] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: sup man didn't see you hear
[11:50] <diablo69> here*
[11:50] <Darky469> i can use  notepad  already under wine  , but can't find  explorer
[11:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hey diablo69
[11:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Wup?
[11:51] <TTilus> looks like my mail doesnt get delivered
[11:51] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: Not shit you?
[11:51] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: so you can't install xubuntu?
[11:51] <poningru> mika0800: could have sworn the module is loaded whether or not it is useful, but you have to ask someone more knowledgable than me for confirmation
[11:51] <TTilus> sudo mailq shows pretty much everything ive sent from this box
[11:51] <Darky469> pundai u have  experience  with it ?
[11:51] <poningru> mika0800: try lsmod
[11:51] <poningru> see which modules you ahve loaded
[11:51] <globe> narles- dbl click on the tar.bz2 file to open it. Its an archive
[11:51] <pundai> Darky469, what is your problem
[11:51] <tamale> bud_:  ok, the ubuntu cd is in, and it came up automatically
[11:52] <] m[evilb> midwinter think i found that driver
[11:52] <bud_> tamale: did you install kernel source of your kernel
[11:52] <timfrost> globe, try re-running configure.  It should find the gtk+ libraries
[11:52] <tamale> bud_:  i'm not sure, I just did a default ubuntu install
[11:52] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: you busy man?
[11:52] <huhn_2punkt0> yes I can't install because in order to do so I need a working inet connection, which I dont have as it wont recognize my network card
[11:52] <mika0800> ok, I will soon boot the machine and try lsmod.... I do not know all about linux modules, but at least in windows I think that a driver module will refuse to load if a corresponding device does not exist !
[11:52] <TTilus> during install i selected smarthost operation and gave my isp's smtp server
[11:52] <Eleaf> lol
[11:52] <globe> timfrost: I did.
[11:53] <TTilus> any suggestions what could be wrong?
[11:53] <mika0800> but I will now go to that bad-luck linux box...
[11:53] <bud_> tamale: how much ethernet or wificards you have in your computer
[11:53] <pinkisntwell> i'm not familiar with your network card... sorry i have not any experience with laptops
[11:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: Not particularly.
[11:53] <tamale> bud_:  just this linksys gigabit pci adapter
[11:53] <priest> In which packages is the program "mail" in?
[11:53] <bud_> tamale: does ifcownfig see your card
[11:53] <pinkisntwell> someone here please help huhn_2punkt0 with his laptop network card
[11:54] <tamale> bud_:  no, ifconfig only shows lo
[11:54] <bud_> tamale: your adapter
[11:54] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: man would you kow by any chance if a logotech cam is supported out of the box on ubuntu, or what cam is
[11:54] <ColonelPanique> priest : mailx
[11:54] <bud_> tamale: try ifconfig -a
[11:54] <priest> ColonelPanique, thanks
[11:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: I can check...
[11:54] <Darky469> pundai, i wanna  use  a browser with  macromedia shock wave from windows in wine  , how  do i make  thgat  possible
[11:54] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: thanx man, I would appreicate, my box keeps freezing when I try to start it
[11:54] <tamale> bud_:  now i see a sit0
[11:54] <priest> ColonelPanique, isn't mailx installed default in breezy?
[11:54] <ColonelPanique> priest : no
[11:54] <tamale> in addition to the lo
[11:54] <timfrost> globe, try 'export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/include/gtk-2.0
[11:54] <timfrost> '
[11:55] <midwinter> ] m[evilb, http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html by the way
[11:55] <priest> ColonelPanique, why? Is it correct that there is no mailserver either?
[11:55] <edoardo> hi gals, hi dudes : )
[11:55] <Darky469> back
[11:55] <Delvien> ATI driver install to get 3d working in DAPPER = FLAWLESS right from synaptic 3d works
[11:55] <kameron> hey edoardo
[11:55] <ColonelPanique> priest : correctamundo...mailx and postfix were in hoary, but gone ine breezy
[11:55] <tamale> bud_:  are you getting my messages?
[11:55] <ColonelPanique> s/ine/in
[11:55] <Pygi> delvion: hehe :)
[11:55] <Darky469> pundai ?
[11:55] <bud_> tamale: yes on private
[11:55] <Darky469> u still there ?
[11:55] <edoardo> you guys, i've got cups on two gnu/linux boxes. i would like to share printer on box a to box b. i've done this before, but forgot how to. help?
[11:55] <] m[evilb> reboot :)
[11:56] <Delvien> how do i see my FPS?
[11:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/
[11:56] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: I tried to install the creative webcam driver this morning, and the guide to do it sucked, so It wouldn't install right
[11:56] <midwinter> Delvien I am surprised if it really is flawless, would be nice though.
[11:56] <Pygi> delvien: what card?
[11:56] <butcherbird> edoardo: well that would be super easy if ubuntu let you use the webbrowser for cups.. forget howto using gnome
[11:57] <tamale> bud_:  I don't think you're getting my private messages
[11:57] <ompaul> !register
[11:57] <ubotu> register is, like, type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[11:57] <Delvien> Pygi Ati Radeon mobility x300 128mb
[11:57] <ColonelPanique> priest : it's a pretty controversial thing, but i am not entirely sure why it was removed.
[11:57] <bud_> tamale: yes i can see
[11:57] <globe> timfrost, that command seemed to work (nothing came back).  However the ./configure still fails
[11:57] <Delvien> pygi you know how i show my FPS from glxgears? i forgot the command
[11:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: That's hardly surprising - a lot of people give half-assed support to linux.
[11:57] <bud_> ok never mind
[11:57] <timfrost> ColonelPanique, priest, there has been a lot of discussion about the absense of mailx/postfix in the mailing lists over the last month or so.
[11:57] <Pygi> delvien: huh, no sorry :/
[11:57] <bud_> tamale: is that a wifi card
[11:58] <tamale> bud_:  no, it's a wired, gigabit PCI adapter  Linksys EG1032
[11:58] <ColonelPanique> timfrost : yeah, tell me about it! ;-) ;-)
[11:58] <bud_> tamale: o wired
[11:58] <Delvien> midwinter aye, i installed it right from synaptic, and glxgears is going and going strong, just dont remember the command to show the FPS
[11:58] <edoardo> butcherbird, i remember you gotta do somethin' in cupsd.conf. what is it?
[11:58] <pinkisntwell> how can someone setup his networking on ubuntu if he doesn't have gnome?
[11:58] <Pygi> huh, wired one?? it should work out of the box then...
[11:58] <huhn_2punkt0> pinkisntwell thanks for the help anyways
[11:58] <bud_> tamale: do you have a linux driver maybe
[11:58] <timfrost> globe, there may be other required development packages that are missing.  I don't know anything about the package you are trying to build, so can't help any more/
[11:58] <bud_> Pygi: yeah i think too
[11:59] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: I think if you ask here or the mailing list you will get some answer
[11:59] <tamale> bud_:  yes, i got it off the linksys site, but it says it's for 2.2 and 2.4
[11:59] <midwinter> Delvien, yeah it's something long and stupid I can't remember either
[11:59] <narles> has anyone found a replacement for my tunes redux on linux?
[11:59] <mjbjr> visiting the ubuntu web pages, I see _tons_ of documentation on the documentation and ubuntu community, but I can't find any technical info on 5.10... what hardware is supported (particularly nic drivers), and what additional software is available.  Any got some decent links?
[11:59] <bud_> tamale: have you try googling
[11:59] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: you can always install normal ubuntu (with gnome) and go from there
[11:59] <tamale> bud_:  yes, no luck
[11:59] <bud_> tamale: for a 2.6 kernel driver
[12:00] <joshua> how do i clear my Creative nano, i deleted the folders but the mp3 player only has 53 mb space and its a 256mb :( can anyone help?i used the creative cd software in windows to clean it before but i dont know an app for linux ??