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| allee | JRe: forgot to mention: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119769 | 12:25 |
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| allee | JRe: Other things I noticed user a on :0 and user b on :1 both get the dialog when usbstorage is plugged in. | 12:26 |
| allee | JRe: dialogs are not closed when other user selects an action and later when device is unpluged | 12:27 |
| JRe | allee: mmm ok | 12:33 |
| JRe | allee: thanks i didn't realized that also | 12:33 |
| JRe | allee: i'll try to manage that kind of configuration. | 12:34 |
| JRe | allee: BTW nice BR, it's well explained | 12:35 |
| allee | JRe: similar happens with one user too. action selection dialog pops up, but one uses konqueror media:/ to mount the device --> dialog is not closed automaticly | 12:35 |
| allee | JRe: thx. | 12:35 |
| JRe | allee: in every cases, medianotifier will use Plasma in next KDE release | 12:36 |
| JRe | allee: so I think these kind of problem will be fixed | 12:36 |
| allee | JRe: I assume a media/mount event should close a dialog for media/unmounted of the same device | 12:36 |
| JRe | allee: yeah you're right | 12:36 |
| JRe | allee: that is a bug that really need to be fix | 12:37 |
| JRe | allee: moreover it shouldn't be hard to fix | 12:37 |
| allee | JRe: every pre kde 4 fix is good news ;) | 12:38 |
| JRe | allee: will try to fix it in next minor | 12:38 |
| JRe | allee: yeah sure | 12:38 |
| JRe | allee: yes i definitively need to fix this bug | 12:39 |
| JRe | allee: it's unlogic | 12:40 |
| JRe | allee: you can post a little BR about that also ? | 12:40 |
| JRe | (just in case I forget :) ) | 12:40 |
| allee | JRe: yes, I'll write the BR | 12:41 |
| JRe | allee: many thanks!!! | 12:41 |
| Riddell | did we find out why cameras don't show in media:/ ? | 12:45 |
| allee | Riddell: for gphoto2 camera JRe guess is a mediamanager bug. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119769 | 12:51 |
| allee | Riddell: usbstorage cameras show up as media/removable_unmounted and not media/camera_unmounted, ervin guess is a bug in hal. | 12:52 |
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| Riddell | hello strider | 12:58 |
| strider | hi there | 01:01 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: profiles are about finished | 01:27 |
| Tonio_ | anyway I found the way to prevent the kio zip from launching.... | 01:27 |
| Tonio_ | only problem, it doesn't work within kubuntu-default-settings whereas the files are in /usr/share..... | 01:28 |
| Tonio_ | I need to hack the 2 desktop files in /usr/share/mimelnk/application/ | 01:28 |
| Tonio_ | I tried to add them in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/mimelnk/application | 01:29 |
| Tonio_ | but that doesn't work | 01:29 |
| Tonio_ | the problem is that konqueror way to work is different for 7z or rar files than for tgz or zip..... | 01:29 |
| Tonio_ | that's not "clean"... | 01:30 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: what needs changed in them? | 01:33 |
| Tonio_ | I simply commented that : | 01:33 |
| Tonio_ | #[Property::X-KDE-LocalProtocol] | 01:34 |
| Tonio_ | #Type=QString | 01:34 |
| Tonio_ | #Value=zip | 01:34 |
| Tonio_ | that way the kio isn't used | 01:34 |
| Tonio_ | what change ? | 01:35 |
| Tonio_ | sorry I read badly... | 01:35 |
| Riddell | that's what I was asking for | 01:35 |
| Tonio_ | okay ;) | 01:35 |
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| Tonio_ | I changed 2 files : x-zip.desktop and x-tar.desktop | 01:36 |
| JRe | bye everyone | 01:38 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that of course can be done via a patch..... but via kubuntu-default-settings should be better no ? | 01:38 |
| Tonio_ | good night JRe | 01:38 |
| Riddell | if you put it in kubuntu-default-settings you have to override the values not comment them out, else it'll fall back to the values in the file in /usr | 01:40 |
| Tonio_ | ah ? | 01:43 |
| Tonio_ | okay :=) | 01:43 |
| Tonio_ | let's test | 01:43 |
| Tonio_ | I did many little changes, like removing DOM options in the view menu (only usefull for super geeks or webdevs) etc... | 01:44 |
| Tonio_ | so the files are merged the first doesn't override the other that's it ? | 01:45 |
| Riddell | yes, merged not overwritten | 01:47 |
| Riddell | well, the keys in one override the other, but if the more important file doesn't have a key it uses the one from the less important file | 01:48 |
| Tonio_ | hum, so if I change Value=zip to Value= | 01:51 |
| Tonio_ | that might work | 01:51 |
| Riddell | it might | 01:51 |
| Tonio_ | okay | 01:51 |
| Riddell | or it might break everything, I'm not really sure how those values work :) | 01:51 |
| Tonio_ | rebuilding the package, reloading kde and let you know | 01:51 |
| Tonio_ | we'll see :) | 01:51 |
| Tonio_ | If you don't see me coming back, second option might unfortunately be right ;) | 01:52 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: works ;) | 02:00 |
| Riddell | groovy | 02:00 |
| Riddell | although I'm still not convinced either way on the kioslave vs embedded ark debate | 02:01 |
| Tonio_ | actually ark isn't embedded | 02:05 |
| Tonio_ | the default config is to use the "application" type config, wich is external use of ark | 02:05 |
| Tonio_ | the problem is that it isn't, if you want something simple, to have the file manager reacting in a different way between the same kind of files.... | 02:06 |
| Tonio_ | if the kio would work for all compressed files, I would be fine with it | 02:07 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: seems to be finished, would you like to test ? | 02:15 |
| Tonio_ | I have a dapper package done for kubuntu-default-settings | 02:15 |
| Riddell | I'd love to but I'm deep into xpdf blurg | 02:18 |
| Riddell | but put it somewhere I can download and I'll look into it probably tomorrow | 02:18 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: no problem, there is no emergency ;) Raphink tried and appreciated it ;) | 02:19 |
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| LaserJock | does kde have an equivilent to gnomefiles.com? | 03:06 |
| Riddell | LaserJock: kde-apps.org | 03:07 |
| LaserJock | doh, I've been on the dark side too long :-) | 03:08 |
| LaserJock | I totally forgot about kde-apps | 03:08 |
| Riddell | if you're luck I might still be on the front page :) | 03:09 |
| LaserJock | where? | 03:11 |
| crimsun | kde-apps | 03:12 |
| LaserJock | right but where on there? | 03:12 |
| crimsun | ...the front page... | 03:12 |
| Riddell | probably not | 03:12 |
| Riddell | oh yes, last one | 03:13 |
| Riddell | KDE HAL Device Manager KDE HAL Device Manager | 03:13 |
| LaserJock | ah, see it now | 03:13 |
| LaserJock | so if I install kubuntu-desktop from Ubuntu will it be any different than installing from a Kubuntu cd? | 03:19 |
| crimsun | yes, you'll have the gnome "cruft," too | 03:21 |
| LaserJock | lol, but the KDE part is the same? Are all the none-DE packages the same? | 03:22 |
| crimsun | yes | 03:22 |
| LaserJock | k, thanks | 03:23 |
| LaserJock | so I am going to try to go through the scientific section of kde-apps and see if there is anything we should have in dapper | 03:26 |
| crimsun | kmatlab, kfortranToPython, kWriteMyDissertationForMe are all candidates | 03:27 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: you mean on UniverseCandidates? | 03:27 |
| Riddell | I think he's joking :) | 03:27 |
| Riddell | LaserJock: cool, please do | 03:27 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: qt should be built with immodule now | 03:28 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: well . I'll try | 03:29 |
| LaserJock | well I think it is only fair since I went through gnomefiles and did the same thing and thanks to Riddel we got 2 packages into universe so far :-) | 03:29 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: it's all right now | 03:35 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: woo! | 03:35 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: sorry that took so long | 03:35 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: shall it be backported to breezy | 03:36 |
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| Riddell | seth: I uploaded klearlooks | 03:37 |
| seth | Riddell, I saw, thanks | 03:37 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: no, it's too big a change for breezy | 03:37 |
| seth | Riddell, you sponsored it, yet katie sent me e-mail, how's that? | 03:37 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: but you said someone had already done it | 03:37 |
| Riddell | klearlook_0.9.7-0ubuntu1_source.changes ACCEPTED | 03:37 |
| Riddell | just came though | 03:38 |
| Riddell | seth: I uploaded with my e-mail in the changelog | 03:38 |
| seth | Riddell, I know, then how did katie send *me* an e-mail too? | 03:38 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: a member of ubuntu-ja, but the release is low than it is in breezy now | 03:38 |
| Riddell | seth: oh, strange | 03:39 |
| Riddell | seth: what did it say? | 03:39 |
| seth | same thing, just a normal katie ACCEPTED e-mail | 03:39 |
| Riddell | weird | 03:39 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: ask him to build another one with an increased number I guess | 03:41 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: what else needs done now for scim support? | 03:41 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: we want it be the defalut input method for CJK users | 03:42 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: is it working for you now? | 03:42 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportscim?highlight=%28scim%29 | 03:42 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: sure , it works fine for all CJK users | 03:43 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: do you have a screenshot of skim working in kubuntu? | 03:44 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: just a moment , I'll show you | 03:45 |
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| === seth pokes arts | ||
| freeflying_ | Riddell: http://ubuntu-zh.3322.org/screenshot/ | 03:53 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: the file named with skim | 03:54 |
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| Riddell | freeflying_: excellent :) | 03:57 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: http://ubuntu-zh.3322.org/screenshot/skim-trayicon.png isn't that the scim icon not skim? | 03:58 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: it's skim ,not scim | 03:58 |
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| Riddell | if you say so :) | 03:59 |
| freeflying | Riddell: sure , I just using skim under kde | 04:00 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: is there a main inclusion report for skim currently? | 04:00 |
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| freeflying | Riddell: no , if need , I'll add it | 04:00 |
| freeflying | Riddell: for scim is still in universe now | 04:00 |
| Riddell | freeflying: yeah, please add one, then I'll talk to the main inclusion reviewer about getting the lot in main | 04:01 |
| freeflying | Riddell: right | 04:01 |
| freeflying | Riddell: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportskim | 04:26 |
| Riddell | freeflying: excellent, thanks | 04:27 |
| Riddell | I'll try and run that past some people tomorrow for comments | 04:28 |
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| poningru | Riddell: drool at the cds | 07:07 |
| poningru | more like: | 07:07 |
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| Tm_T | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=33542 <- good idea, but I have my doubts | 08:30 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: ping | 09:13 |
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| freeflying | looking for reviewers for this http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1434 | 10:34 |
| Tm_T | haha | 10:52 |
| Tm_T | dunno why but my eth0 was not set auto by default | 10:53 |
| Tm_T | breezy installer it is | 10:53 |
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| Tonio_ | Tm_T: I finished the konq profiles | 11:19 |
| Tonio_ | if you wanna test | 11:19 |
| Tonio_ | I can send you the deb file | 11:19 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: ok | 11:21 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: http://ns2708.ovh.net/temp/kubuntu-default-settings_6.04-5_all.deb | 11:25 |
| Tonio_ | hum.... | 11:26 |
| Tm_T | wget doesn't find it | 11:26 |
| Tonio_ | yep | 11:26 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: should be okay now... sorry | 11:27 |
| Tonio_ | the interesting part is if you open a pdf or an image | 11:28 |
| Tm_T | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found | 11:28 |
| Tonio_ | and also, the menu structure is quite different | 11:28 |
| Tonio_ | hu ??????? | 11:28 |
| Tonio_ | http://planetemu.net/temp/kubuntu-default-settings_6.04-5_all.deb | 11:29 |
| Tonio_ | hum......... | 11:29 |
| Tonio_ | need to lok at that, ovh apparently changed something in my apache config..... | 11:30 |
| Tonio_ | default website is badly configured... | 11:30 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: did you get it ? both links are now working.... they removed a ServerAlias entry in apache config.... | 11:34 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: aye | 11:35 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: can that thing wait a moment? | 11:35 |
| Tm_T | I'm fixing and forking shell server up | 11:36 |
| Tm_T | ok, now I test it | 11:44 |
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| Tonio_ | Tm_T: there is no emergency | 11:57 |
| Tonio_ | ;) | 11:57 |
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| Riddell | Tm_T: pong | 01:42 |
| theine | Hi, katapult stopped working after my last `rm -rf ~/.kde'. The katapult widget shows up if I hit <ALT-F2> but nothing happens if I start to type something... | 01:43 |
| theine | This is up-to-date Dapper btw | 01:44 |
| Riddell | theine: run katapult on a console | 01:44 |
| theine | Riddell, ok | 01:44 |
| theine | doesn't give me anything but a few `Ignored duplicate item: ...' | 01:46 |
| Riddell | theine: then alt+space will bring up katapult | 01:46 |
| Hobbsee | theine: same here | 01:46 |
| theine | Riddell, yes it does, but still the same problem | 01:46 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: yes, katapult comes up, then you type something, and it just sits there, and does nothing | 01:47 |
| theine | Hobbsee, nice to know I'm not the only one... | 01:47 |
| Hobbsee | theine: i was going to write a note in here earlier, but was going to try refreshing kde first | 01:47 |
| freeflying | Riddell: ho | 01:48 |
| theine | Hobbsee, refreshing KDE won't help here I'm afraid | 01:48 |
| Hobbsee | yes, i'd suspected that | 01:48 |
| freeflying | Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1436 | 01:48 |
| freeflying | Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1435 | 01:49 |
| Riddell | hmm, I wonder why ttf-arphic-uming is a native package | 01:52 |
| freeflying | Riddell: the author just release a snapshot wich remove the dependant on xdelta | 01:53 |
| freeflying | Riddell: so it can be included in main | 01:54 |
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| freeflying | Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1437 | 01:59 |
| JRe | hi all | 02:01 |
| Riddell | lots to review! :) | 02:01 |
| Riddell | freeflying: where did you download the snapshot from? | 02:02 |
| freeflying | Riddell: the author upload them to apt.debian.org.tw | 02:02 |
| Riddell | freeflying: it's a stange version number "dot" etc, but if that's what upstream uses I guess that's fine | 02:06 |
| freeflying | Riddell: sure , upstreamer use them | 02:07 |
| freeflying | Riddell: http://apt.debian.org.tw/pool/t/ttf-arphic-ukai/ | 02:07 |
| Riddell | yep | 02:08 |
| theine | Are there plans to make the default Kubuntu konsole setup less hideous? | 02:09 |
| JRe | theine: what's bad with these settings ? | 02:12 |
| theine | tiny font, and I dispise white-on-black (although that's a personal preference of course...) | 02:14 |
| theine | but the font is really small | 02:14 |
| hunger | What really annoys me with kde is that the fontsizes vary depending on the driver used for the graphics card. | 02:15 |
| hunger | At least for me:-( | 02:15 |
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| Riddell | it should be possible to get kdm to use a set DPI | 02:18 |
| Riddell | feel free to investigate, it can't be hard | 02:19 |
| theine | May I suggest to make the default "Fixed Width" font size a little bit larger (10 is barely readable on my display)? | 02:20 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: hi, I'm gona send you another source package.... still a few modifications | 02:22 |
| hunger | Riddell: I force the dpi setting in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc. | 02:22 |
| hunger | Riddell: Dunno whether I need to change that someplace else for kdm. | 02:22 |
| Riddell | freeflying: what do you mean by "Sync from dot"? | 02:33 |
| jjesse | allee: i got networking to work w/ qemu so i can now access the internet from my image file | 02:33 |
| freeflying | Riddell: I've coreect this .and reupload agai | 02:33 |
| freeflying | Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1438 | 02:35 |
| jjesse | allee: i will be updating the wiki page and replying to my posts on the mailing list to take care of it | 02:36 |
| allee | jjesse: great! | 02:48 |
| jjesse | allee: i'll let the mailing list know when i document what i had to do on the wiki page | 02:57 |
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| seth | katapult not working for me either | 03:27 |
| seth | and to force dpi settings, you can edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc and change to: | 03:27 |
| seth | ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp -dpi 100 | 03:27 |
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| Riddell | freeflying_: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1435 a few small issues with scim-qtimm | 03:36 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: it will detect wether you've installed skim | 03:37 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: ttf-arphic-uming both Suggests and Conflicats on xdelta, shall I remove the Suggests? | 03:37 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: ok, ignore that then | 03:37 |
| Riddell | s/Conflicats/Conflicts/ | 03:38 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: how about keep that suggests | 03:38 |
| Riddell | yep | 03:38 |
| Riddell | and remove the conflicts? | 03:38 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: I 'd keep it | 03:39 |
| Riddell | but you can't both Suggest and Conflict something | 03:39 |
| Riddell | oh wait | 03:40 |
| Riddell | it conflics on a different version | 03:40 |
| Riddell | that's fine then, ignore me | 03:40 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: no ,remove conglict | 03:40 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: I'm splitting them into .orig and .diff, and changing COMPAT to 4 since 3 is out of date | 03:41 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: otherwise fine, shall I upload ttf-arphic-uming and ttf-arphic-ukai? | 03:42 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: sure ,thx | 03:42 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: so great u r | 03:42 |
| Riddell | well you're the one who knows what needs done here, I just do as you say :) | 03:43 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: thx too much , ^_^ | 03:45 |
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| Tm_T | Riddell: looks like installer have some restrictions | 04:02 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: lowmem support is gone, can't install with 64MB straight away, needed to disable framebuffer | 04:03 |
| mornfall | who needs framebuffer | 04:25 |
| mornfall | :-) | 04:26 |
| Tm_T | nobody | 04:26 |
| Tm_T | but there was no lowmem option that I could see | 04:26 |
| Tm_T | AND 64M should be enough according to documents | 04:26 |
| Tm_T | I was advised to file a bug, I did | 04:27 |
| Tm_T | prolly not clear enough though | 04:27 |
| Riddell | Mez: poke http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22198 | 05:07 |
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| JRe | ok switching to dapper :) | 06:37 |
| seth | haha, probably not the best time, JRe | 06:37 |
| JRe | seth: why ? | 06:37 |
| seth | daniels is starting his X breakage marathon | 06:38 |
| JRe | seth: so X will not be working for long ? | 06:38 |
| seth | he said he would start mid-January. X broke last night according to some people | 06:38 |
| seth | apparently the Jan 7th daily CD is good to upgrade to, but nothing later than that. | 06:38 |
| Tm_T | doesn't happened here though, might be the mirrors I use | 06:38 |
| seth | I just will not reboot for the next month :) | 06:38 |
| JRe | Someone know if X really broken now ? | 06:39 |
| JRe | seth: thanks for the tip, I will try the CD if it's really broken | 06:39 |
| seth | no worries, just didn't want you to experience the same breakage | 06:39 |
| seth | I can't tell you if it's broken for me or not b/c I'm afraid to reboot :) | 06:39 |
| seth | but I have been hearing some reports. | 06:39 |
| JRe | seth: sure I experienced a lot and I don't really appreciate :) | 06:40 |
| JRe | seth: where can I find the daily cd ? | 06:40 |
| Riddell | cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu | 06:41 |
| Riddell | seth: go to a console and run X :1 | 06:41 |
| seth | mm, true | 06:43 |
| jjesse | allee: i sent an email to kubuntu-devel on how i got networking working w/ qemu | 06:43 |
| seth | still working here then, JRe :) | 06:43 |
| JRe | seth: you have updated ? | 06:44 |
| seth | yes, I'm fully up-to-date as of about 10 minutes ago | 06:44 |
| JRe | seth: but you have not rebooted | 06:44 |
| seth | no, but I did run a new copy of X | 06:44 |
| JRe | seth: okay dan it worked fine ? | 06:44 |
| seth | yes it did | 06:44 |
| JRe | seth: ok i quicly update and pray :) | 06:45 |
| JRe | seth: thanks! | 06:45 |
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| Mez | Riddell: ping | 08:18 |
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| JRe | yes dapper mission compete :) | 08:19 |
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| Verwilst | heyheyhey! | 08:33 |
| Verwilst | Riddell: hellow | 08:33 |
| Verwilst | you've made your appy with pyqt eh? | 08:33 |
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| Verwilst | c++, php, python, ... :$ | 08:40 |
| Verwilst | ( with Qt that is ) | 08:40 |
| JRe | Verwilst: if you want maximum KDE tools compatibility, use C++ | 08:42 |
| JRe | Verwilst: otherwise use Python | 08:42 |
| Verwilst | i don't really need kde tools compat | 08:42 |
| Verwilst | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/ <- pyqt project of mine from 3 years ago :d | 08:43 |
| Verwilst | oh | 08:43 |
| Verwilst | http://lokipoki.sourceforge.net/ | 08:43 |
| Verwilst | :) | 08:43 |
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| Tonio_ | re | 08:54 |
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| JRe | re | 08:57 |
| Riddell | hi Verwilst | 09:00 |
| Riddell | hi Mez | 09:01 |
| Mez | Riddell - a couple of things | 09:01 |
| Mez | one I'd rather talk in private about | 09:01 |
| Mez | and - er the other | 09:01 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: may I send you the latest version of kubuntu-default-settings for late testing ? | 09:01 |
| Mez | I cant remember what it is | 09:01 |
| Mez | ah yes | 09:01 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: sure | 09:01 |
| Mez | the other - thnking of getting katapult included in KDE - whats the best way to go about it | 09:02 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I did ome final changes on tabs management and fonts to have something very close to firefox and opera in the default way to work... | 09:02 |
| Riddell | Mez: don't know if it's the best time to include things in KDE, it being all ported to KDE 4 just now | 09:03 |
| Mez | ah yes | 09:03 |
| Mez | and Riddell check /query | 09:03 |
| Riddell | Mez: it could go in extragear, in which case ask helio | 09:04 |
| Riddell | or it could go in kdeutils or something, in which case it would need to be ported to KDE 4 and not released for a year | 09:04 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: mail sent | 09:07 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: what tab options did you modify in kubuntu-default-settings? | 10:00 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: IconText=IconOnly why specify that? | 10:02 |
| Tonio_ | let me check for tabs ;) | 10:02 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: is k3b-i18n meant to work? | 10:03 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: MediumFontSize=10 isn't that quite small? | 10:03 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: nope | 10:03 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: yes and no, what's wrong with it? | 10:03 |
| Tonio_ | concerning IconText=IconOnly, it is just the default action, that can be removed.... It is to just display icons without text... | 10:03 |
| Tonio_ | bad copy paste mabe... | 10:03 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: k3b-i18n: Depends: k3b (= 0.12.10-1) but 0.12.10-0ubuntu3 is to be installed | 10:03 |
| Tonio_ | concerning tabs, I removed the option to open new tabs in background.... | 10:03 |
| Riddell | hmm, right | 10:03 |
| Tonio_ | no browser is doing like that be default.... | 10:04 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: thank you about kubuntu-default settings package, now I lost my own font =) | 10:04 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: though I think it's somewhere safe | 10:04 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: how did you do ? ;) | 10:04 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: also, I think it wasn't set by default, I activated the "back to previous used tab while closing a tab" | 10:05 |
| Tonio_ | same that in firefox by default.... Many users are just don't using konq on kde because they don't want spending time configuring it... | 10:05 |
| Riddell | sounds very confusing, tabs will be jumping around | 10:05 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: just installed, now that font appears as dejavu verasans :p | 10:05 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: might be just confused KDE | 10:06 |
| Tonio_ | hum.............. | 10:06 |
| Tonio_ | firefox does that by default... | 10:06 |
| Tonio_ | goes back to the previous used tab when you close one | 10:06 |
| Tonio_ | also, opera does that too | 10:06 |
| Tonio_ | but anyway, you decide ;) | 10:06 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: ah yes, re-checked settings and it's back, so just KDE | 10:07 |
| Tonio_ | what got me nuts is a strange bug with the newline option.... | 10:07 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: cool ;) | 10:07 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: firefox opens new tabs in the background | 10:07 |
| Riddell | with a middle click | 10:07 |
| Tonio_ | hu ? | 10:07 |
| Tonio_ | yep but with a normal click on a _blank link | 10:07 |
| Tonio_ | no background.... | 10:07 |
| Tonio_ | it does foreground except with using the middle click, I agree ith on that point ;) | 10:08 |
| Riddell | closing a tab in firefox goes to the tab on the right, not the previously used one | 10:08 |
| Tonio_ | hum....... | 10:08 |
| Tonio_ | let me check...... I was sure to have a default config firle. | 10:09 |
| Tonio_ | anyway Riddell remove this, I don't mind ;) | 10:09 |
| Tonio_ | that not a very important feature | 10:09 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: though now it doesn't work everywhere | 10:09 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: TabCloseActivatePrevious=true -> to ve removed in konquerorrc | 10:10 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: did you removed konqurror config files in your profile ? | 10:10 |
| Tonio_ | to start using default ? | 10:11 |
| Tm_T | not yet | 10:11 |
| Tonio_ | that might be the reason.... depending what you have in your profile.... | 10:11 |
| Tm_T | huuh | 10:11 |
| Tonio_ | Tm_T: did you do a killall konqueror ? | 10:12 |
| Tonio_ | konq is keeping a session in memory, even if closed.... | 10:12 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: concerning the menus reoganizing, are you fine with it ? | 10:14 |
| Tm_T | Tonio_: well, now problem is that my font doesn't work in windo title | 10:14 |
| Tonio_ | hu ? there is absolutly no parameter that concerns fonts in what I modified.... | 10:14 |
| Tm_T | aye | 10:15 |
| Tm_T | might be other updates | 10:15 |
| Tonio_ | that the tricky part | 10:15 |
| Tm_T | dapperdapperdapperdapper | 10:15 |
| Tonio_ | ah that's possible.... dunno, I still use breezy | 10:15 |
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| Riddell | theine: when did you notice katapult becoming a problem? | 10:17 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: one minute.. | 10:18 |
| theine | Riddell, 2 days ago if I remember correctly | 10:18 |
| theine | Riddell, it stopped working after I purged my KDE configuration | 10:18 |
| Tm_T | ...because now in that key combination is something else? | 10:19 |
| Tm_T | like here was | 10:19 |
| Riddell | theine: it's stopped working for me too, so something spooky is going on | 10:19 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: why Reload and Stop in view? | 10:19 |
| theine | By the way, apart from not working right now, katapult is awesome I have to say | 10:20 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: because it is like that in IE, firefox.... | 10:21 |
| Tonio_ | doesn't sound loging, but because users don't like the chang... hehe | 10:21 |
| Tonio_ | and because it is like that in the konq default profile too | 10:21 |
| Tonio_ | s/logig/logic | 10:22 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: firefox doesn't have reload and stop, only back and forwards | 10:22 |
| Riddell | and home | 10:22 |
| Tonio_ | hu ? | 10:22 |
| Tonio_ | in "view" ? | 10:23 |
| Riddell | oh, so it does | 10:23 |
| Riddell | hmm, I'm not convinced | 10:23 |
| Tonio_ | yep ;) | 10:23 |
| Tonio_ | I think about all file managers have "reload" in their "view" menu | 10:24 |
| Tonio_ | same for browsers.... | 10:24 |
| Riddell | Duplicate Window, does anyone use that? | 10:28 |
| Tonio_ | hum, Riddell do you have that in the menus ? | 10:28 |
| Tonio_ | I don't.... | 10:28 |
| Riddell | you added it | 10:29 |
| Riddell | <Action name="newtab" /> | 10:29 |
| Riddell | + <Action name="duplicate_window" /> | 10:29 |
| Riddell | <Action name="open_location" /> | 10:29 |
| Tonio_ | which file ? | 10:29 |
| Tonio_ | ho, it is just because I restarted with the full kde profile... | 10:30 |
| Tonio_ | it might be in an hidden toolbar no ? | 10:30 |
| Riddell | it's in your konq-kubuntu.rc | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | yep, in the "file" menu.... | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | that's just because I restarted with the orig.rc file.... | 10:31 |
| Riddell | + <Action name="editMimeType" />, I wonder if people who want to edit mime type settings also all know how to right click | 10:31 |
| Tonio_ | I forgot to remove that.... | 10:32 |
| sealne | Riddell: i use duplicate window/tab | 10:32 |
| Riddell | sealne: whatever for? | 10:33 |
| Riddell | hmm, bookmarks as a sub-menu, I don't like that but then you can't add things to the bookmarks menu, what a pain | 10:33 |
| sealne | after browsing awhile into a site i'll duplicate the tab go back to the original and then i can go back | 10:33 |
| Tonio_ | sealne: I personnaly do with a right click on a tab... I agree Riddell that having that in the "file" menu isn't necessary | 10:33 |
| sealne | ah yeah i use right click, sorry missed that | 10:34 |
| Tonio_ | and concerning editMimeType, same reason, that should be removed.... I should have gone wioth your rc file, but anyway, it is easier removing stuff that adding it ;) | 10:35 |
| sealne | Riddell: do you have any kubuntu cds? it would be nice for my forensics class to get "profesional" looking cds to use | 10:35 |
| Riddell | sealne: yeah, how many do you want | 10:36 |
| Riddell | sealne: I can send you a box of 80 then you can use it for forensics and scotlug? | 10:37 |
| Riddell | configurespellcheck can go, that can be configured in systemsettings | 10:37 |
| sealne | there are only 4 students but i'm sure i could give out a lot more | 10:37 |
| Riddell | sealne: e-mail the postal address to jriddell@ubuntu.com | 10:38 |
| sealne | Riddell: Kenny Duffus, Computer & information Sciences, University of Strathclyde, Glasgow G1 1XH | 10:38 |
| Riddell | or IRC :) | 10:38 |
| sealne | not like its a secret | 10:38 |
| sealne | google dosen't hide things very well | 10:38 |
| Riddell | All the configure menu items in konqueror are evil, there should be configure web browsing and configure filemanager and that's it | 10:38 |
| Tm_T | true | 10:39 |
| Tm_T | now it's bit messy | 10:39 |
| sealne | one thing i miss is i'm sure i used to be able to increase font size when a text webpage is viewed | 10:39 |
| Tm_T | ctrl++ or - | 10:40 |
| Tonio_ | hum.... I agree, but would you remove the shortcut config options ? | 10:40 |
| sealne | Tm_T: that only works with html stuff | 10:40 |
| Tonio_ | the dictionnary ? | 10:40 |
| Tm_T | sealne: ah | 10:40 |
| Tonio_ | it is very usefull.... | 10:40 |
| Verwilst | i miss the split window buttons :p | 10:42 |
| Tonio_ | Verwilst: they are back with that config | 10:42 |
| Riddell | Verwilst: we're adding them back | 10:43 |
| Verwilst | coolness :d | 10:43 |
| Riddell | sealne: on the embedded kate text editor part? | 10:45 |
| sealne | yeah | 10:45 |
| Riddell | kate only seems to have that in the toolbars not the menus so it's missing from konqueror | 10:45 |
| Riddell | shouldn't be too hard to put it in the menu though | 10:45 |
| sealne | i'm pretty sure debian had it somewhere | 10:46 |
| Riddell | might be a KDE 3.5 hting | 10:47 |
| Riddell | thing | 10:47 |
| Riddell | <DefineGroup name="zoom_operations" /> bah, kate uses some weird thing for zoom buttons | 10:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: concerning the profiles in configuration, I'm not pleased to see the 6 files there.... | 10:49 |
| Tonio_ | anyway, do you think the possibility to create profiles should be removed ? | 10:49 |
| Tonio_ | I know many personns that are creating sftp or ftp profiles | 10:50 |
| Tonio_ | I didn't found a way to prevent other profiles from displaying.... mabe patching the concerned package would be better..... | 10:51 |
| sealne | yeah or it could have just been old kde | 10:52 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: I don't understand | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | hum | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | in your profile, You removed the loading and managing profiles options.... | 10:52 |
| Riddell | yes | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | that's nice but forbids the creation of personnal profiles | 10:53 |
| Tonio_ | which can be usefull for ftp for example | 10:53 |
| Riddell | a feature I've never found a need for | 10:53 |
| Riddell | but some people seem to use it | 10:53 |
| Tm_T | aye | 10:53 |
| Tonio_ | well.... creating an ftp profile :) | 10:53 |
| Tm_T | no | 10:53 |
| Riddell | bookmarks? | 10:53 |
| Tonio_ | Am I the only personns that uses this ? | 10:53 |
| Tm_T | plase no hiding functions | 10:53 |
| Tm_T | +e | 10:54 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ? whare are they you mean ? | 10:54 |
| Riddell | what would be in an ftp profile? | 10:54 |
| === Tm_T have seen gnomeism enough ;) | ||
| Tm_T | anyway, good night, school tomorrow -> | 10:54 |
| Tonio_ | a profile with a tab splitted in two... | 10:54 |
| Riddell | right | 10:54 |
| Riddell | and what do you mean "prevent other profiles from displaying"? | 10:55 |
| Tonio_ | tab on the left displaying local, and tab on the right displaying the ftp ;) | 10:55 |
| Tonio_ | ho | 10:55 |
| Tonio_ | It would be nice if there was a possibility to only display kubuntu web and kubuntu filemanagmeent in the profile list.... | 10:55 |
| Tonio_ | not all the other profiles that do all the same thing... | 10:55 |
| Tonio_ | but I didn't found a way to hide them.... | 10:56 |
| Tonio_ | blaking all their value only results in a blank line, but the line is still there | 10:56 |
| Tonio_ | s/blaking/blanking | 10:56 |
| Tonio_ | so maybe they could just no install with the package containing them.... | 10:56 |
| Tonio_ | konqueror package in fact ;) | 10:58 |
| Tonio_ | that way we could keep the creating profiles fonctions with something clean in the menus, no ? | 10:58 |
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| Tonio_ | allee: so I'm not the only one ;) | 11:27 |
| Riddell | allee: what's in that? | 11:39 |
| allee | Riddel: huge icons, I usually use detailed list view | 11:40 |
| Tonio_ | sleeping time | 11:42 |
| Tonio_ | hi allee, Riddell | 11:42 |
| allee | Riddell: I also started profile local/(local|ftp|sftp) profile but never finished it. Neverhteless I miss it. | 11:43 |
| allee | Tonio_: hi or bye ;) | 11:43 |
| allee | Tonio_: nite | 11:43 |
| Tonio_ | ho... bye.... (sounds I'm very tired....) | 11:43 |
| allee | Tonio_: GO TO BED! we need a fresh Tonio_ tomorrow ;) | 11:44 |
| Tonio_ | I didn't sleep from yesterday morning.... | 11:44 |
| Tonio_ | that's the reason my english is so crappy actually ;) | 11:44 |
| Tonio_ | anyway, byebye :) | 11:44 |
| allee | :) | 11:45 |
| Riddell | do we know Carlos Blanquer cblanquer? | 11:46 |
| Riddell | I should set up a kubuntu-users launchpad group for all these people who are joining | 11:48 |
| Riddell | https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-users sign up! | 11:50 |
| Riddell | extra points for whoever makes an emblem | 11:51 |
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