=== seth [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:25] JRe: forgot to mention: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119769 === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:26] JRe: Other things I noticed user a on :0 and user b on :1 both get the dialog when usbstorage is plugged in. [12:27] JRe: dialogs are not closed when other user selects an action and later when device is unpluged [12:33] allee: mmm ok [12:33] allee: thanks i didn't realized that also [12:34] allee: i'll try to manage that kind of configuration. [12:35] allee: BTW nice BR, it's well explained [12:35] JRe: similar happens with one user too. action selection dialog pops up, but one uses konqueror media:/ to mount the device --> dialog is not closed automaticly [12:35] JRe: thx. [12:36] allee: in every cases, medianotifier will use Plasma in next KDE release [12:36] allee: so I think these kind of problem will be fixed [12:36] JRe: I assume a media/mount event should close a dialog for media/unmounted of the same device [12:36] allee: yeah you're right [12:37] allee: that is a bug that really need to be fix [12:37] allee: moreover it shouldn't be hard to fix [12:38] JRe: every pre kde 4 fix is good news ;) [12:38] allee: will try to fix it in next minor [12:38] allee: yeah sure [12:39] allee: yes i definitively need to fix this bug [12:40] allee: it's unlogic [12:40] allee: you can post a little BR about that also ? [12:40] (just in case I forget :) ) [12:41] JRe: yes, I'll write the BR [12:41] allee: many thanks!!! [12:45] did we find out why cameras don't show in media:/ ? [12:51] Riddell: for gphoto2 camera JRe guess is a mediamanager bug. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119769 [12:52] Riddell: usbstorage cameras show up as media/removable_unmounted and not media/camera_unmounted, ervin guess is a bug in hal. === strider [n=shrike@cah275.emirates.net.ae] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:58] hello strider [01:01] hi there === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:27] Riddell: profiles are about finished [01:27] anyway I found the way to prevent the kio zip from launching.... [01:28] only problem, it doesn't work within kubuntu-default-settings whereas the files are in /usr/share..... [01:28] I need to hack the 2 desktop files in /usr/share/mimelnk/application/ [01:29] I tried to add them in /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/mimelnk/application [01:29] but that doesn't work [01:29] the problem is that konqueror way to work is different for 7z or rar files than for tgz or zip..... [01:30] that's not "clean"... === crimsun [n=crimsun@216.133.95.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:33] Tonio_: what needs changed in them? [01:33] I simply commented that : [01:34] #[Property::X-KDE-LocalProtocol] [01:34] #Type=QString [01:34] #Value=zip [01:34] that way the kio isn't used [01:35] what change ? [01:35] sorry I read badly... [01:35] that's what I was asking for [01:35] okay ;) === Tonio_ is tired [01:36] I changed 2 files : x-zip.desktop and x-tar.desktop [01:38] bye everyone [01:38] Riddell: that of course can be done via a patch..... but via kubuntu-default-settings should be better no ? [01:38] good night JRe [01:40] if you put it in kubuntu-default-settings you have to override the values not comment them out, else it'll fall back to the values in the file in /usr [01:43] ah ? [01:43] okay :=) [01:43] let's test [01:44] I did many little changes, like removing DOM options in the view menu (only usefull for super geeks or webdevs) etc... [01:45] so the files are merged the first doesn't override the other that's it ? [01:47] yes, merged not overwritten [01:48] well, the keys in one override the other, but if the more important file doesn't have a key it uses the one from the less important file [01:51] hum, so if I change Value=zip to Value= [01:51] that might work [01:51] it might [01:51] okay [01:51] or it might break everything, I'm not really sure how those values work :) [01:51] rebuilding the package, reloading kde and let you know [01:51] we'll see :) [01:52] If you don't see me coming back, second option might unfortunately be right ;) === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:00] Riddell: works ;) [02:00] groovy [02:01] although I'm still not convinced either way on the kioslave vs embedded ark debate [02:05] actually ark isn't embedded [02:05] the default config is to use the "application" type config, wich is external use of ark [02:06] the problem is that it isn't, if you want something simple, to have the file manager reacting in a different way between the same kind of files.... [02:07] if the kio would work for all compressed files, I would be fine with it === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:15] Riddell: seems to be finished, would you like to test ? [02:15] I have a dapper package done for kubuntu-default-settings [02:18] I'd love to but I'm deep into xpdf blurg [02:18] but put it somewhere I can download and I'll look into it probably tomorrow [02:19] Riddell: no problem, there is no emergency ;) Raphink tried and appreciated it ;) === seth [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LaserJock [n=mantha@adsl-69-227-134-50.dsl.renocs.nvbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:06] does kde have an equivilent to gnomefiles.com? [03:07] LaserJock: kde-apps.org [03:08] doh, I've been on the dark side too long :-) [03:08] I totally forgot about kde-apps [03:09] if you're luck I might still be on the front page :) [03:11] where? [03:12] kde-apps [03:12] right but where on there? [03:12] ...the front page... [03:12] probably not [03:13] oh yes, last one [03:13] KDE HAL Device Manager KDE HAL Device Manager [03:13] ah, see it now [03:19] so if I install kubuntu-desktop from Ubuntu will it be any different than installing from a Kubuntu cd? [03:21] yes, you'll have the gnome "cruft," too [03:22] lol, but the KDE part is the same? Are all the none-DE packages the same? [03:22] yes [03:23] k, thanks [03:26] so I am going to try to go through the scientific section of kde-apps and see if there is anything we should have in dapper [03:27] kmatlab, kfortranToPython, kWriteMyDissertationForMe are all candidates [03:27] crimsun: you mean on UniverseCandidates? [03:27] I think he's joking :) [03:27] LaserJock: cool, please do [03:28] freeflying_: qt should be built with immodule now [03:29] Riddell: well . I'll try [03:29] well I think it is only fair since I went through gnomefiles and did the same thing and thanks to Riddel we got 2 packages into universe so far :-) [03:35] Riddell: it's all right now [03:35] freeflying_: woo! [03:35] freeflying_: sorry that took so long [03:36] Riddell: shall it be backported to breezy === seth is working on a new kvIRC and k3dsurf today [03:37] seth: I uploaded klearlooks [03:37] Riddell, I saw, thanks [03:37] freeflying_: no, it's too big a change for breezy [03:37] Riddell, you sponsored it, yet katie sent me e-mail, how's that? [03:37] freeflying_: but you said someone had already done it [03:37] klearlook_0.9.7-0ubuntu1_source.changes ACCEPTED [03:38] just came though [03:38] seth: I uploaded with my e-mail in the changelog [03:38] Riddell, I know, then how did katie send *me* an e-mail too? [03:38] Riddell: a member of ubuntu-ja, but the release is low than it is in breezy now [03:39] seth: oh, strange [03:39] seth: what did it say? [03:39] same thing, just a normal katie ACCEPTED e-mail [03:39] weird [03:41] freeflying_: ask him to build another one with an increased number I guess [03:41] freeflying_: what else needs done now for scim support? [03:42] Riddell: we want it be the defalut input method for CJK users [03:42] freeflying_: is it working for you now? [03:42] Riddell: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportscim?highlight=%28scim%29 [03:43] Riddell: sure , it works fine for all CJK users [03:44] freeflying_: do you have a screenshot of skim working in kubuntu? [03:45] Riddell: just a moment , I'll show you === seth ponders sound not working in KDE === seth pokes arts [03:53] Riddell: http://ubuntu-zh.3322.org/screenshot/ [03:54] Riddell: the file named with skim === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:57] freeflying_: excellent :) [03:58] freeflying_: http://ubuntu-zh.3322.org/screenshot/skim-trayicon.png isn't that the scim icon not skim? [03:58] Riddell: it's skim ,not scim === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:59] if you say so :) [04:00] Riddell: sure , I just using skim under kde [04:00] freeflying_: is there a main inclusion report for skim currently? === seth [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has left #kubuntu-devel ["With] [04:00] Riddell: no , if need , I'll add it [04:00] Riddell: for scim is still in universe now [04:01] freeflying: yeah, please add one, then I'll talk to the main inclusion reviewer about getting the lot in main [04:01] Riddell: right [04:26] Riddell: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportskim [04:27] freeflying: excellent, thanks [04:28] I'll try and run that past some people tomorrow for comments === seth [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === amu [n=amu@kubuntu.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sealne [n=sealne@obelisk.wasters.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === teprrr [i=tpr@kde/developer/rytilahti] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LaserJock [n=mantha@adsl-69-227-134-50.dsl.renocs.nvbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F7EAF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:07] Riddell: drool at the cds [07:07] more like: === poningru drools at the cds === viviersf [n=cain@wbs-196-2-119-91.wbs.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:30] http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=33542 <- good idea, but I have my doubts [09:13] Riddell: ping === viviersf [n=cain@wbs-196-2-119-91.wbs.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@raphink.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@raphink.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cain_ [n=cain@wbs-196-2-119-91.wbs.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo_ [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:34] looking for reviewers for this http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1434 [10:52] haha [10:53] dunno why but my eth0 was not set auto by default [10:53] breezy installer it is === viviersf [n=cain@wbs-196-2-119-91.wbs.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:19] Tm_T: I finished the konq profiles [11:19] if you wanna test [11:19] I can send you the deb file [11:21] Tonio_: ok [11:25] Tm_T: http://ns2708.ovh.net/temp/kubuntu-default-settings_6.04-5_all.deb [11:26] hum.... [11:26] wget doesn't find it [11:26] yep [11:27] Tm_T: should be okay now... sorry [11:28] the interesting part is if you open a pdf or an image [11:28] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found [11:28] and also, the menu structure is quite different [11:28] hu ??????? [11:29] http://planetemu.net/temp/kubuntu-default-settings_6.04-5_all.deb [11:29] hum......... [11:30] need to lok at that, ovh apparently changed something in my apache config..... [11:30] default website is badly configured... [11:34] Tm_T: did you get it ? both links are now working.... they removed a ServerAlias entry in apache config.... [11:35] Tonio_: aye [11:35] Tonio_: can that thing wait a moment? [11:36] I'm fixing and forking shell server up [11:44] ok, now I test it === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:57] Tm_T: there is no emergency [11:57] ;) === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cain_ [n=cain@wbs-196-2-120-66.wbs.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === theine [n=theine@fw2.nbi.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:42] Tm_T: pong [01:43] Hi, katapult stopped working after my last `rm -rf ~/.kde'. The katapult widget shows up if I hit but nothing happens if I start to type something... [01:44] This is up-to-date Dapper btw [01:44] theine: run katapult on a console [01:44] Riddell, ok [01:46] doesn't give me anything but a few `Ignored duplicate item: ...' [01:46] theine: then alt+space will bring up katapult [01:46] theine: same here [01:46] Riddell, yes it does, but still the same problem [01:47] Riddell: yes, katapult comes up, then you type something, and it just sits there, and does nothing [01:47] Hobbsee, nice to know I'm not the only one... [01:47] theine: i was going to write a note in here earlier, but was going to try refreshing kde first [01:48] Riddell: ho [01:48] Hobbsee, refreshing KDE won't help here I'm afraid [01:48] yes, i'd suspected that [01:48] Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1436 [01:49] Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1435 [01:52] hmm, I wonder why ttf-arphic-uming is a native package [01:53] Riddell: the author just release a snapshot wich remove the dependant on xdelta [01:54] Riddell: so it can be included in main === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:59] Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1437 [02:01] hi all [02:01] lots to review! :) [02:02] freeflying: where did you download the snapshot from? [02:02] Riddell: the author upload them to apt.debian.org.tw [02:06] freeflying: it's a stange version number "dot" etc, but if that's what upstream uses I guess that's fine [02:07] Riddell: sure , upstreamer use them [02:07] Riddell: http://apt.debian.org.tw/pool/t/ttf-arphic-ukai/ [02:08] yep [02:09] Are there plans to make the default Kubuntu konsole setup less hideous? [02:12] theine: what's bad with these settings ? [02:14] tiny font, and I dispise white-on-black (although that's a personal preference of course...) [02:14] but the font is really small [02:15] What really annoys me with kde is that the fontsizes vary depending on the driver used for the graphics card. [02:15] At least for me:-( === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:18] it should be possible to get kdm to use a set DPI [02:19] feel free to investigate, it can't be hard [02:20] May I suggest to make the default "Fixed Width" font size a little bit larger (10 is barely readable on my display)? === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:22] Riddell: hi, I'm gona send you another source package.... still a few modifications [02:22] Riddell: I force the dpi setting in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc. [02:22] Riddell: Dunno whether I need to change that someplace else for kdm. [02:33] freeflying: what do you mean by "Sync from dot"? [02:33] allee: i got networking to work w/ qemu so i can now access the internet from my image file [02:33] Riddell: I've coreect this .and reupload agai [02:35] Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1438 [02:36] allee: i will be updating the wiki page and replying to my posts on the mailing list to take care of it [02:48] jjesse: great! [02:57] allee: i'll let the mailing list know when i document what i had to do on the wiki page === freeflyi1g_ [n=rockie@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:27] katapult not working for me either [03:27] and to force dpi settings, you can edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc and change to: [03:27] ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp -dpi 100 === freeflying_ [n=rockie@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:36] freeflying_: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1435 a few small issues with scim-qtimm [03:37] Riddell: it will detect wether you've installed skim [03:37] freeflying_: ttf-arphic-uming both Suggests and Conflicats on xdelta, shall I remove the Suggests? [03:37] freeflying_: ok, ignore that then [03:38] s/Conflicats/Conflicts/ [03:38] Riddell: how about keep that suggests [03:38] yep [03:38] and remove the conflicts? [03:39] Riddell: I 'd keep it [03:39] but you can't both Suggest and Conflict something [03:40] oh wait [03:40] it conflics on a different version [03:40] that's fine then, ignore me [03:40] Riddell: no ,remove conglict [03:41] freeflying_: I'm splitting them into .orig and .diff, and changing COMPAT to 4 since 3 is out of date [03:42] freeflying_: otherwise fine, shall I upload ttf-arphic-uming and ttf-arphic-ukai? [03:42] Riddell: sure ,thx [03:42] Riddell: so great u r [03:43] well you're the one who knows what needs done here, I just do as you say :) [03:45] Riddell: thx too much , ^_^ === theine [n=theine@fw2.nbi.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:02] Riddell: looks like installer have some restrictions [04:03] Riddell: lowmem support is gone, can't install with 64MB straight away, needed to disable framebuffer [04:25] who needs framebuffer [04:26] :-) [04:26] nobody [04:26] but there was no lowmem option that I could see [04:26] AND 64M should be enough according to documents [04:27] I was advised to file a bug, I did [04:27] prolly not clear enough though [05:07] Mez: poke http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22198 === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@server2.polaristar.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:37] ok switching to dapper :) [06:37] haha, probably not the best time, JRe [06:37] seth: why ? [06:38] daniels is starting his X breakage marathon [06:38] seth: so X will not be working for long ? [06:38] he said he would start mid-January. X broke last night according to some people [06:38] apparently the Jan 7th daily CD is good to upgrade to, but nothing later than that. [06:38] doesn't happened here though, might be the mirrors I use [06:38] I just will not reboot for the next month :) [06:39] Someone know if X really broken now ? [06:39] seth: thanks for the tip, I will try the CD if it's really broken [06:39] no worries, just didn't want you to experience the same breakage [06:39] I can't tell you if it's broken for me or not b/c I'm afraid to reboot :) [06:39] but I have been hearing some reports. [06:40] seth: sure I experienced a lot and I don't really appreciate :) [06:40] seth: where can I find the daily cd ? [06:41] cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu [06:41] seth: go to a console and run X :1 [06:43] mm, true [06:43] allee: i sent an email to kubuntu-devel on how i got networking working w/ qemu [06:43] still working here then, JRe :) [06:44] seth: you have updated ? [06:44] yes, I'm fully up-to-date as of about 10 minutes ago [06:44] seth: but you have not rebooted [06:44] no, but I did run a new copy of X [06:44] seth: okay dan it worked fine ? [06:44] yes it did [06:45] seth: ok i quicly update and pray :) [06:45] seth: thanks! === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D22C4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-011-139.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LaserJock [n=mantha@lambda.chem.unr.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:18] Riddell: ping === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:19] yes dapper mission compete :) === Verwilst [n=verwilst@dD5E0099B.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:33] heyheyhey! [08:33] Riddell: hellow [08:33] you've made your appy with pyqt eh? === JRe is waiting for a pykconfig_compiler === Verwilst ponders what language to start coding in again [08:40] c++, php, python, ... :$ [08:40] ( with Qt that is ) [08:42] Verwilst: if you want maximum KDE tools compatibility, use C++ [08:42] Verwilst: otherwise use Python [08:42] i don't really need kde tools compat [08:43] http://cvs.sourceforge.net/ <- pyqt project of mine from 3 years ago :d [08:43] oh [08:43] http://lokipoki.sourceforge.net/ [08:43] :) === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:54] re === hunger [n=hunger@p54A63684.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:57] re [09:00] hi Verwilst [09:01] hi Mez [09:01] Riddell - a couple of things [09:01] one I'd rather talk in private about [09:01] and - er the other [09:01] Riddell: may I send you the latest version of kubuntu-default-settings for late testing ? [09:01] I cant remember what it is [09:01] ah yes [09:01] Tonio_: sure [09:02] the other - thnking of getting katapult included in KDE - whats the best way to go about it [09:02] Riddell: I did ome final changes on tabs management and fonts to have something very close to firefox and opera in the default way to work... [09:03] Mez: don't know if it's the best time to include things in KDE, it being all ported to KDE 4 just now [09:03] ah yes [09:03] and Riddell check /query [09:04] Mez: it could go in extragear, in which case ask helio [09:04] or it could go in kdeutils or something, in which case it would need to be ported to KDE 4 and not released for a year [09:07] Riddell: mail sent === theine [n=theine@fw2.nbi.dk] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === JRe [n=JRe@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === theine [n=theine@fw2.nbi.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:00] Tonio_: what tab options did you modify in kubuntu-default-settings? [10:02] Tonio_: IconText=IconOnly why specify that? [10:02] let me check for tabs ;) [10:03] Riddell: is k3b-i18n meant to work? [10:03] Tonio_: MediumFontSize=10 isn't that quite small? [10:03] Riddell: nope [10:03] Tm_T: yes and no, what's wrong with it? [10:03] concerning IconText=IconOnly, it is just the default action, that can be removed.... It is to just display icons without text... [10:03] bad copy paste mabe... [10:03] Riddell: k3b-i18n: Depends: k3b (= 0.12.10-1) but 0.12.10-0ubuntu3 is to be installed [10:03] concerning tabs, I removed the option to open new tabs in background.... [10:03] hmm, right [10:04] no browser is doing like that be default.... [10:04] Tonio_: thank you about kubuntu-default settings package, now I lost my own font =) [10:04] Tonio_: though I think it's somewhere safe [10:04] Tm_T: how did you do ? ;) [10:05] Riddell: also, I think it wasn't set by default, I activated the "back to previous used tab while closing a tab" [10:05] same that in firefox by default.... Many users are just don't using konq on kde because they don't want spending time configuring it... [10:05] sounds very confusing, tabs will be jumping around [10:05] Tonio_: just installed, now that font appears as dejavu verasans :p [10:06] Tonio_: might be just confused KDE [10:06] hum.............. [10:06] firefox does that by default... [10:06] goes back to the previous used tab when you close one [10:06] also, opera does that too [10:06] but anyway, you decide ;) [10:07] Tonio_: ah yes, re-checked settings and it's back, so just KDE [10:07] what got me nuts is a strange bug with the newline option.... [10:07] Tm_T: cool ;) [10:07] Tonio_: firefox opens new tabs in the background [10:07] with a middle click [10:07] hu ? [10:07] yep but with a normal click on a _blank link [10:07] no background.... [10:08] it does foreground except with using the middle click, I agree ith on that point ;) [10:08] closing a tab in firefox goes to the tab on the right, not the previously used one [10:08] hum....... [10:09] let me check...... I was sure to have a default config firle. [10:09] anyway Riddell remove this, I don't mind ;) [10:09] that not a very important feature [10:09] Tonio_: though now it doesn't work everywhere [10:10] Riddell: TabCloseActivatePrevious=true -> to ve removed in konquerorrc [10:10] Tm_T: did you removed konqurror config files in your profile ? [10:11] to start using default ? [10:11] not yet [10:11] that might be the reason.... depending what you have in your profile.... [10:11] huuh [10:12] Tm_T: did you do a killall konqueror ? [10:12] konq is keeping a session in memory, even if closed.... [10:14] Riddell: concerning the menus reoganizing, are you fine with it ? [10:14] Tonio_: well, now problem is that my font doesn't work in windo title [10:14] hu ? there is absolutly no parameter that concerns fonts in what I modified.... [10:15] aye [10:15] might be other updates [10:15] that the tricky part [10:15] dapperdapperdapperdapper [10:15] ah that's possible.... dunno, I still use breezy === theine [n=theine@fw2.nbi.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:17] theine: when did you notice katapult becoming a problem? [10:18] Tonio_: one minute.. [10:18] Riddell, 2 days ago if I remember correctly [10:18] Riddell, it stopped working after I purged my KDE configuration [10:19] ...because now in that key combination is something else? [10:19] like here was [10:19] theine: it's stopped working for me too, so something spooky is going on [10:19] Tonio_: why Reload and Stop in view? [10:20] By the way, apart from not working right now, katapult is awesome I have to say [10:21] Riddell: because it is like that in IE, firefox.... [10:21] doesn't sound loging, but because users don't like the chang... hehe [10:21] and because it is like that in the konq default profile too [10:22] s/logig/logic [10:22] Tonio_: firefox doesn't have reload and stop, only back and forwards [10:22] and home [10:22] hu ? [10:23] in "view" ? [10:23] oh, so it does [10:23] hmm, I'm not convinced [10:23] yep ;) [10:24] I think about all file managers have "reload" in their "view" menu [10:24] same for browsers.... [10:28] Duplicate Window, does anyone use that? [10:28] hum, Riddell do you have that in the menus ? [10:28] I don't.... [10:29] you added it [10:29] [10:29] + [10:29] [10:29] which file ? [10:30] ho, it is just because I restarted with the full kde profile... [10:30] it might be in an hidden toolbar no ? [10:31] it's in your konq-kubuntu.rc [10:31] yep, in the "file" menu.... [10:31] that's just because I restarted with the orig.rc file.... [10:31] + , I wonder if people who want to edit mime type settings also all know how to right click [10:32] I forgot to remove that.... [10:32] Riddell: i use duplicate window/tab [10:33] sealne: whatever for? [10:33] hmm, bookmarks as a sub-menu, I don't like that but then you can't add things to the bookmarks menu, what a pain [10:33] after browsing awhile into a site i'll duplicate the tab go back to the original and then i can go back [10:33] sealne: I personnaly do with a right click on a tab... I agree Riddell that having that in the "file" menu isn't necessary [10:34] ah yeah i use right click, sorry missed that [10:35] and concerning editMimeType, same reason, that should be removed.... I should have gone wioth your rc file, but anyway, it is easier removing stuff that adding it ;) [10:35] Riddell: do you have any kubuntu cds? it would be nice for my forensics class to get "profesional" looking cds to use [10:36] sealne: yeah, how many do you want [10:37] sealne: I can send you a box of 80 then you can use it for forensics and scotlug? [10:37] configurespellcheck can go, that can be configured in systemsettings [10:37] there are only 4 students but i'm sure i could give out a lot more [10:38] sealne: e-mail the postal address to jriddell@ubuntu.com [10:38] Riddell: Kenny Duffus, Computer & information Sciences, University of Strathclyde, Glasgow G1 1XH [10:38] or IRC :) [10:38] not like its a secret [10:38] google dosen't hide things very well [10:38] All the configure menu items in konqueror are evil, there should be configure web browsing and configure filemanager and that's it [10:39] true [10:39] now it's bit messy [10:39] one thing i miss is i'm sure i used to be able to increase font size when a text webpage is viewed [10:40] ctrl++ or - [10:40] hum.... I agree, but would you remove the shortcut config options ? [10:40] Tm_T: that only works with html stuff [10:40] the dictionnary ? [10:40] sealne: ah [10:40] it is very usefull.... [10:42] i miss the split window buttons :p [10:42] Verwilst: they are back with that config [10:43] Verwilst: we're adding them back [10:43] coolness :d [10:45] sealne: on the embedded kate text editor part? [10:45] yeah [10:45] kate only seems to have that in the toolbars not the menus so it's missing from konqueror [10:45] shouldn't be too hard to put it in the menu though [10:46] i'm pretty sure debian had it somewhere [10:47] might be a KDE 3.5 hting [10:47] thing [10:49] bah, kate uses some weird thing for zoom buttons [10:49] Riddell: concerning the profiles in configuration, I'm not pleased to see the 6 files there.... [10:49] anyway, do you think the possibility to create profiles should be removed ? [10:50] I know many personns that are creating sftp or ftp profiles [10:51] I didn't found a way to prevent other profiles from displaying.... mabe patching the concerned package would be better..... [10:52] yeah or it could have just been old kde [10:52] Tonio_: I don't understand [10:52] hum [10:52] in your profile, You removed the loading and managing profiles options.... [10:52] yes [10:53] that's nice but forbids the creation of personnal profiles [10:53] which can be usefull for ftp for example [10:53] a feature I've never found a need for [10:53] but some people seem to use it [10:53] aye [10:53] well.... creating an ftp profile :) [10:53] no [10:53] bookmarks? [10:53] Am I the only personns that uses this ? [10:53] plase no hiding functions [10:54] +e [10:54] Riddell: ? whare are they you mean ? [10:54] what would be in an ftp profile? === Tm_T have seen gnomeism enough ;) [10:54] anyway, good night, school tomorrow -> [10:54] a profile with a tab splitted in two... [10:54] right [10:55] and what do you mean "prevent other profiles from displaying"? [10:55] tab on the left displaying local, and tab on the right displaying the ftp ;) [10:55] ho [10:55] It would be nice if there was a possibility to only display kubuntu web and kubuntu filemanagmeent in the profile list.... [10:55] not all the other profiles that do all the same thing... [10:56] but I didn't found a way to hide them.... [10:56] blaking all their value only results in a blank line, but the line is still there [10:56] s/blaking/blanking [10:56] so maybe they could just no install with the package containing them.... [10:58] konqueror package in fact ;) [10:58] that way we could keep the creating profiles fonctions with something clean in the menus, no ? === allee created/use a bluetooth profile ;) [11:27] allee: so I'm not the only one ;) [11:39] allee: what's in that? [11:40] Riddel: huge icons, I usually use detailed list view [11:42] sleeping time [11:42] hi allee, Riddell [11:43] Riddell: I also started profile local/(local|ftp|sftp) profile but never finished it. Neverhteless I miss it. [11:43] Tonio_: hi or bye ;) [11:43] Tonio_: nite [11:43] ho... bye.... (sounds I'm very tired....) [11:44] Tonio_: GO TO BED! we need a fresh Tonio_ tomorrow ;) [11:44] I didn't sleep from yesterday morning.... [11:44] that's the reason my english is so crappy actually ;) [11:44] anyway, byebye :) [11:45] :) [11:46] do we know Carlos Blanquer cblanquer? [11:48] I should set up a kubuntu-users launchpad group for all these people who are joining [11:50] https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-users sign up! [11:51] extra points for whoever makes an emblem === theine [n=theine@fw2.nbi.dk] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === Riddell makes kubuntu-team a member of kubuntu-users === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #kubuntu-devel