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| damnhil | what apt-get package has "xmllint"? I need it for ubuntu-doc/validate.sh to run | 12:35 |
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| Madpilot | damnhil: libxml2-utils -- Synaptic's search function is useful for this sort of question | 02:20 |
| Madpilot | damnhil: are you also "Hil" on email? | 02:21 |
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| LaserJock | Burgundavia: do you know why a lot (if not all) the Debian documentation is GPL? | 03:14 |
| Burgundavia | LaserJock, yes, I understand the issue. We had extensive talks about it at Mataro | 03:15 |
| Burgundavia | we decided even though our stuff is DFSG-non-free, we would stick with those licenses | 03:15 |
| jsgotangco | issue? | 03:15 |
| LaserJock | our stuff isn't DFSG-non-free? | 03:16 |
| LaserJock | or I mean DFSG-free | 03:16 |
| Burgundavia | GFDL and cc-by-sa 2.0 are DFSG-nonfree | 03:16 |
| LaserJock | I am really starting to dislike licensing. I thought that GFDL was the doc equivilent of GPL | 03:17 |
| Burgundavia | yes, licensing sucks | 03:18 |
| Burgundavia | it is, it just has some nasty bits | 03:18 |
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| bhuvan | doc.ubuntu.com is down ? | 05:05 |
| jsgotangco | seems so | 05:08 |
| jsgotangco | hmmm | 05:08 |
| jsgotangco | that's the virtual server | 05:08 |
| bhuvan | ok | 05:08 |
| jsgotangco | let me look it up if i can find my account | 05:08 |
| bhuvan | great | 05:08 |
| bhuvan | i guess, help.ubuntu.com is down as well ? | 05:09 |
| jsgotangco | i believe they reside on the same server (not sure) | 05:10 |
| bhuvan | oh ok | 05:11 |
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| damnhil | Madpilot: yes | 06:05 |
| Madpilot | just noticed that you've signed up for the wiki now - good | 06:35 |
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| jsgotangco | i saw changes | 06:43 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 06:43 |
| Madpilot | hi jsgotangco | 06:44 |
| Madpilot | was just looking at this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NoSuchFileOrDirectory - nice page but the name sucks | 06:44 |
| jsgotangco | ohhh | 06:44 |
| Madpilot | how about SearchFilesHowto? | 06:44 |
| jsgotangco | wonder if some docs link to that file though | 06:46 |
| Madpilot | I'll create the new page and redirect, rather than just rename | 06:47 |
| Madpilot | the whole page is only a few days old | 06:47 |
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| Burgundavia | Madpilot, just nuke it | 06:59 |
| Madpilot | renamed to FindingFilesHowto... | 07:01 |
| Burgundavia | excellent | 07:01 |
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| jsgotangco | great \sh is being eaten alive in debian-devel list | 07:06 |
| Madpilot | ouch... someone want to tackle this mess? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/windowsusersettings | 07:06 |
| Burgundavia | he is arguing that LP is a good thing, even if non-free | 07:07 |
| Burgundavia | he is doomed | 07:07 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 07:07 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot, you want to email the author of that page? | 07:08 |
| Burgundavia | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Overcast | 07:08 |
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| damnhil | I am building kubuntu/adeptguide by typing make adept. I did not get index.html but index.docbook. I converted the docbook file using docbook2html. Am I doing it right? | 07:14 |
| bhuvan | damnhil, i suggest you to try 'make adept-html' or 'make adept-web' | 07:25 |
| Burgundavia | hmm, if you search for "linux desktop", you get no Ubuntu love | 07:26 |
| Burgundavia | that needs to change | 07:26 |
| jsgotangco | google spam | 07:27 |
| Burgundavia | blogging about it now | 07:29 |
| bshumate | gnu/linux desktop has fun results ;-) | 07:29 |
| bshumate | (heyas all) | 07:29 |
| bhuvan | i'm about to instruct Burgundavia to do that :) | 07:30 |
| Burgundavia | bshumate, hmm | 07:32 |
| damnhil | bhuvan: It is working! is Troy Williams here? | 07:33 |
| jsgotangco | Troy Williams hasn't come here for quite a while im afraid | 07:33 |
| damnhil | jsgotangco: How can I get my name added to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamProjects ? | 07:37 |
| jsgotangco | where are the changes you made? | 07:39 |
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| bshumate | bhuvan: was the validation error the <command></command> inside the <tip></tip> or something else? | 07:39 |
| bshumate | oh, i see it in the commits list now. thanks! | 07:40 |
| bhuvan | it was due to couple of minor reasons: 1) yep, inside tip. 2) you have used para within para tag for one or two listitem entries | 07:41 |
| damnhil | jsgotangco : not yet but I will | 07:41 |
| bshumate | bhuvan: what do you use to edit? i am still looking for an editor that does real-time validation of the xml | 07:42 |
| bhuvan | hum, i use vim. it does not doe real-time validation, i afraid ! | 07:42 |
| bhuvan | s/doe/do/ | 07:42 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, you on planet yet? Blog about your favourite linux desktop, dammit | 07:42 |
| bshumate | bhuvan: ahh...how do you catch the minor errors then? eyeball? i tried it in yelp and it loaded without complaining, so that's why i didn't catch it. | 07:43 |
| jsgotangco | Burgundavia, obviously you haven't been reading planet | 07:43 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, I don't read it, no ;) | 07:43 |
| bhuvan | bshumate, you can run ubuntu-doc/validate.sh your_file.xml. it does the rest | 07:44 |
| bshumate | ahh cool, thanks! | 07:45 |
| damnhil | jsgotangco: Is anyone doing adept guide development? | 07:45 |
| jsgotangco | nope | 07:45 |
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| damnhil | jsgotangco: Can anyone give me some doc work to do? | 07:45 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, Kubuntu | 07:45 |
| jsgotangco | Burgundavia, well i know that, i'm not sure though if its a kubuntu-exclusive thing | 07:46 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, there have been at least 3 attempts at a synaptic style gui for kde | 07:46 |
| jsgotangco | adept is good but i don't find it intuitive | 07:47 |
| Burgundavia | no, but it is the only gui with full support for debtags | 07:48 |
| bshumate | heh heh heh...the curse of rms! j/k ;-) | 07:48 |
| Burgundavia | ok, I think I have posted to enough places (sounder, forums and blogged about it) | 07:49 |
| damnhil | jsgotangco: do you need exim4 for developing ubuntu-doc? | 07:49 |
| jsgotangco | in planet corey? | 07:49 |
| jsgotangco | nope | 07:50 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, I have been slightly easier on blogging recently | 07:50 |
| jsgotangco | Burgundavia, it would be nice if we had a google pack for ubuntu | 07:50 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, big packs are actually quite useless, to be honest | 07:51 |
| jsgotangco | its still good marketing | 07:51 |
| Burgundavia | because they usually contain too much and too little at the same time | 07:51 |
| jsgotangco | you know better | 07:51 |
| damnhil | jsgotangco, the subversion-tools depends on exim4-base. Why is that? | 07:51 |
| jsgotangco | damnhil, you don't need subversion-tools | 07:51 |
| bshumate | jsgotangco: assuming i wanted to, what to do to become more official as an Ubuntu Member and such? i've got a WikiPage, LaunchPad page, signed the CoC, contributed a goodly handful of things over the last few months, and so on. what else do i need to do at this point, besides start bribing people? ;-) | 07:51 |
| jsgotangco | just subversion really | 07:51 |
| jsgotangco | bshumate, CommunityCouncilAgenda | 07:52 |
| damnhil | jsgotangco, what doc are you maintaining? | 07:52 |
| Burgundavia | holy crap, we are not within the frist 200 hits of "linux desktop" | 07:52 |
| jsgotangco | damnhil, kubuntu docs mostly and currently doing g-a-i | 07:53 |
| bhuvan | jsgotangco, i suggest you to approve bshumate as ubuntu-doc member in lp | 07:53 |
| jsgotangco | hrmm | 07:53 |
| jsgotangco | bhuvan, i haven't checked the queue | 07:53 |
| jsgotangco | Burgundavia has approval rights as well btw :P | 07:53 |
| damnhil | jsgotangco: what's g-a-i? | 07:54 |
| bhuvan | ok :) | 07:54 |
| Madpilot | damnhil: gnome-app-install | 07:54 |
| Burgundavia | alright, I will do it | 07:54 |
| bshumate | we still on for freaky friday, the 13th? | 07:54 |
| bhuvan | atlast bshumate have bribed me :) | 07:54 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, shall I approve kevin cole too? | 07:54 |
| jsgotangco | i don't see bshumate | 07:55 |
| damnhil | Do you have any doc that require someone to write? | 07:55 |
| jsgotangco | damnhil, when you checked out svn, every doc there is pretty much open for contributions | 07:55 |
| jsgotangco | Burgundavia, +1 | 07:55 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 07:55 |
| Madpilot | damnhil: if you want to mess with the wiki, there's an entire category of stuff that needs work: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CategoryCleanup | 07:56 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, approved | 07:56 |
| bshumate | jsgotangco: on CommunityCouncilAgenda now... ;-) | 07:56 |
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| jsgotangco | should we remove mako | 07:57 |
| jsgotangco | hehe | 07:57 |
| jsgotangco | joke | 07:57 |
| damnhil | I found something missing in adept guide. Do you know any program in apt-get that gives you a configuration screen? | 07:58 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, mako is about to become far more involved | 07:58 |
| jsgotangco | it was a joke | 07:58 |
| jsgotangco | Burgundavia, can you change topic on this channel? | 07:59 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, you should be able to as well | 08:00 |
| jsgotangco | oh | 08:01 |
| Burgundavia | afaik, there is nobody who is here regularly who has ops | 08:02 |
| jsgotangco | well you're the oldest docguy here i figured you had access | 08:04 |
| bhuvan | bshumate, you should add yourself in launchpad ubuntu-doc queue to let Burgundavia/jsgotangco approve | 08:05 |
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| Burgundavia | robitaille, bon soir | 08:06 |
| robitaille | hi Burgundavia | 08:07 |
| jsgotangco | mr. fridge calendar! | 08:09 |
| bshumate | bhuvan: where is this? i am not finding it. | 08:10 |
| Burgundavia | bshumate, welcome to LP | 08:11 |
| jsgotangco | hahaha | 08:11 |
| jsgotangco | LP is the future!!! | 08:11 |
| jsgotangco | but future is not now | 08:11 |
| bshumate | hahaha | 08:11 |
| bhuvan | bshumate, go to launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-doc and click 'join this team' | 08:11 |
| bshumate | computer store here locally, used to have a sign out front "The Future of Tomorrow is Today!" | 08:11 |
| bshumate | alrighty...clicked join the team...no type of confirmation that my action had any consequence, but i'll put my faith in the future! ;-) | 08:13 |
| Burgundavia | bshumate, you want to report a bug on that | 08:14 |
| Burgundavia | the no-confirmation thing | 08:14 |
| damnhil | do you think reconfigure is a word or re-configure? | 08:14 |
| Burgundavia | damnhil, first, in NA english | 08:14 |
| bshumate | Burgundavia: should i dare click it again? ;-) | 08:14 |
| Burgundavia | bshumate, nah, your there | 08:15 |
| Burgundavia | and now you are approved | 08:15 |
| bshumate | Aha! I clicked it again, and *then* it informed me that I am a "propsed member" nice! | 08:15 |
| jsgotangco | welcome to your doom | 08:15 |
| === bshumate files the boog | ||
| bshumate | thanks! ;-) | 08:15 |
| === Burgundavia wonders why he takes on this responsibilities | ||
| jsgotangco | make sure you're awake at 14UTC on friday | 08:16 |
| === Burgundavia is tempted by the "Leave team" button | ||
| bhuvan | :) | 08:16 |
| === bshumate chuckles | ||
| Madpilot | oh Dog, 14UTC again? Another 0600 meeting... :P | 08:16 |
| jsgotangco | would 15UTC be better? | 08:17 |
| bhuvan | bshumate, fyi, you should correct your wiki link. s/Brianshumate/BrianShumate/ | 08:17 |
| === bshumate smells plone all over the place here | ||
| Burgundavia | bshumate, bingo. Ubuntu/Canonical/Fieldwave is a little python mad | 08:17 |
| bshumate | bhuvan: I created it as BrianShumate, and that is how it appears in some places, but it also shows as Brianshumate when I log in (?!) | 08:18 |
| bhuvan | bshumate, i guess you can go to 'Edit Wiki Names' and correct it | 08:19 |
| bshumate | aha! thanks! | 08:19 |
| robitaille | jsgotangco, and I'm about to put the meeting on the fridge | 08:19 |
| robitaille | is it just me, but it seems the css of planet.u.c seems to be screwed up | 08:19 |
| Burgundavia | robitaille, known bug, due to w.u.c change | 08:20 |
| Madpilot | jsgotangco: actually 14UTC is OK, it seems to work for most people and I do have to work that morning by 0900 | 08:20 |
| bshumate | bhuvan: ok, corrected that. where exactly were you spotting it as Brianshumate ? | 08:20 |
| bhuvan | bshumate, it was in your lp home page. now, it's corrected | 08:21 |
| damnhil | I just added a paragraph in adeptguide. Do I send it to the ubuntu-doc mailing list and the maintainer? | 08:22 |
| damnhil | which is correct: "proceed to install the next package" or "proceed to the next package installtion"? | 08:24 |
| Madpilot | damnhil: create a patch and send it to the list | 08:30 |
| Madpilot | and how about just saying "install the next package"? | 08:30 |
| damnhil | Madpilot: Can I attach the diff file in the email to the ubuntu-doc mailing list? | 08:37 |
| Madpilot | yes | 08:39 |
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| jsgotangco | yeah yeah yeah! | 10:14 |
| jsgotangco | our process as well | 10:14 |
| mdke | mm? | 10:15 |
| mdke | jsgotangco, what do you mean? | 10:22 |
| jsgotangco | well some of those pages are extremely outdated | 10:26 |
| mdke | oh fuck! | 10:27 |
| mdke | auth server goes down, /me loses all work | 10:28 |
| === mpt now instinctively uses Cmd+A, Cmd+C before trying to save any Moin page | ||
| mdke | yeah that's a good idea. I didn't even try to save mine, just "preview" | 10:40 |
| === Kinnison highly recommends using an external editor for large wiki edits | ||
| jsgotangco | i use desktop moin too | 10:41 |
| mdke | i use desktop moin, for my work/personal stuff, but not for working on the Ubuntu wiki | 10:42 |
| mdke | external editor might be an idea | 10:42 |
| mdke | i used to use one on zwiki | 10:43 |
| mdke | because it integrated relatively smoothly | 10:43 |
| mdke | Kinnison, is there a way of integrating an external editor with the moin wiki, do you know? | 10:43 |
| Kinnison | mdke: there are various things people have written, personally I just cut&paste from the textarea into emacs and back when I'm done | 10:44 |
| === mdke nods | ||
| mdke | i'll get into that habit | 10:45 |
| mdke | jsgotangco, do you agree with the idea of using DocumentationTeam/subpage as a format? | 10:49 |
| jsgotangco | sure | 10:51 |
| jsgotangco | at least it'll clean up the namespace of sorts | 10:52 |
| mdke | yes, although there will have to be some redirects at first | 10:52 |
| Burgundavia | the LP guys need to seperate their auth engine from LP itself | 10:57 |
| Burgundavia | so LP just becomes another client of the auth engine. Then they might actually be interested in not breaking the auth engine | 10:57 |
| mdke | it seems they are working on that | 10:57 |
| Burgundavia | mdke, if the next Ubuntu conf is in Europe, will you be able to make it? | 10:59 |
| mdke | unlikely I'll be able to get off work, but it depends | 11:00 |
| Burgundavia | what exactly do you do? | 11:01 |
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| mdke | Burgundavia, i'm a trainee lawyer | 11:01 |
| Burgundavia | what area of law? | 11:01 |
| mdke | commercial law | 11:02 |
| Kinnison | Burgundavia: we *are* interested in not breaking the authserver | 11:02 |
| Burgundavia | Kinnison, yes I knew that. <troll>You have worse uptime that PHP-based Wikipedia</troll> | 11:02 |
| Burgundavia | mdke, are you talking contract law or inter-corp. disputes? | 11:03 |
| === Kinnison gazes blearily at Burgundavia before realising that it's just too early in the working year to cope with trolls | ||
| mdke | Burgundavia, inter-corporation disputes involving contracts | 11:03 |
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| === Kinnison ruffles Burgundavia | ||
| === Kinnison has only been at work for 45 minutes in 2006 and already I've failed to spot Corey playing silly-buggers :-) | ||
| Burgundavia | I have to say, having dealt with the CEO and founder of Userful on Friday, I am glad that he works in Calgary and I in Victoria | 11:04 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia: you butting heads with your boss again? :P | 11:05 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot, no, he is just very very hard to actually have a conversation with | 11:05 |
| jsgotangco | wow so it was a failure | 11:06 |
| mdke | is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuickGuide ok for deletion? | 11:19 |
| Burgundavia | mdke, go nuts | 11:20 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, a failure? | 11:20 |
| jsgotangco | your chat with your ceo? | 11:21 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, we danced around. I need someone to ask for the patches | 11:21 |
| Burgundavia | my company fails to understand the linux community | 11:22 |
| Burgundavia | anyway, I really have to sleep. It is 2am here | 11:23 |
| jsgotangco | night | 11:23 |
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| Madpilot | wow, the things that are lurking in the corners of the wiki, huh? :P | 11:58 |
| mdke | yeah | 12:03 |
| mdke | btw I'm being quite aggressive with deleting things, feel free to let me know if I go a bit too far | 12:03 |
| mdke | we can put in some more redirects, if necessary | 12:03 |
| segfault | morning | 12:06 |
| bhuvan_ | mdke, why did you remove DocteamKubuntu ? | 12:08 |
| mdke | bhuvan_, i gave a reason when I deleted the page | 12:09 |
| mdke | your proposal has been implemented | 12:09 |
| bhuvan_ | ok. but, dont we maintain it for archive reasons ? | 12:10 |
| mdke | i don't see a reason to, you? | 12:11 |
| bhuvan_ | imo, it might be useful for a new comer just in case he wish to view the history behind the implementation | 12:11 |
| bhuvan_ | this is applicable for any wiki page which we may delete | 12:11 |
| Madpilot | bhuvan_: deleting the page doesn't actually remove the history | 12:11 |
| mdke | it is worth documenting meinproc | 12:12 |
| mdke | but i don't think that is the same thing as keeping old proposals which have been implemented | 12:12 |
| bhuvan_ | imo, wiki is meant for knowledge base. so, we should retain it hence new comers/contributors may be benefitted | 12:13 |
| mdke | old proposals are no use as a knowledge base. Newcomers and contributors need clear, obvious explanations | 12:13 |
| bhuvan_ | ok | 12:13 |
| mdke | that's what I think anyhow | 12:14 |
| mdke | we definitely need to add an explanation of meinproc to DocumentationTeam/BuildingDocumentation | 12:14 |
| bhuvan_ | i just dont mean this document. but, be considerate before deleting developer/contributor related documents | 12:14 |
| bhuvan_ | in this context, yep, explanation of meinproc is mandatory | 12:15 |
| mdke | i'll try to be considerate, yes | 12:16 |
| bhuvan_ | ok :) | 12:16 |
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| mdke | oh blimey | 12:27 |
| mdke | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamPasoAPasol10n | 12:27 |
| mdke | someone has translated our translation tools page | 12:27 |
| Madpilot | this is a good thing, or not? | 12:28 |
| mdke | not, i can't see a reason to do that | 12:29 |
| Madpilot | given that translators should already speak reasonable English | 12:30 |
| mdke | yes | 12:30 |
| mdke | translators don't need to know our tools tho | 12:30 |
| mdke | they just need to go to rosetta | 12:31 |
| bhuvan | mdke, i guess i found an issue in breezy->ubuntu-docs package | 01:10 |
| mdke | bhuvan, shoot | 01:10 |
| bhuvan | the package don't contain the sample dir of all documents | 01:11 |
| mdke | ah right | 01:11 |
| bhuvan | for example, generic/faqguide doesn't contain sample dir. so, obviously the sampe file url breaks | 01:11 |
| mdke | i think that is in bugzilla, it's fixed for dapper | 01:11 |
| bhuvan | ok | 01:12 |
| bhuvan | but, ubuntu/Makefile has an entry to copy sample/* for each document | 01:12 |
| bhuvan | not sure whether it was added after the release ? | 01:12 |
| mdke | in branches/breezy? | 01:13 |
| bhuvan | yep | 01:14 |
| mdke | hmm, perhaps it went to the wrong place | 01:16 |
| bhuvan | ? | 01:16 |
| mdke | the wrong directory or something | 01:17 |
| bhuvan | but 'cd /usr/share/ubuntu-docs; find . | grep sample' returns nothing :) | 01:19 |
| bhuvan | in this context, are we providing updates for breezy ? | 01:19 |
| bhuvan | if yes, shall i check and address it for breezy | 01:20 |
| bhuvan | if no, we can double check for dapper | 01:20 |
| mdke | the updates for breezy are a bit dodgy at the moment. I prepared one, but it hasn't been uploaded yet due to some problems | 01:21 |
| mdke | possibly, we can do another one later, fixing that issue | 01:21 |
| mdke | if you figure it out, mail the solution to the list so that we have it archived | 01:21 |
| bhuvan | ok | 01:24 |
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| jjesse | shoot i forgot how apply a diff to the document for the adept guide | 03:04 |
| mdke | patch -p0 < whatever.diff | 03:06 |
| mdke | if you've got them in the same dir | 03:06 |
| jjesse | mdke: thanks :) | 03:06 |
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| jsgotangco | hey Belutz | 03:53 |
| Belutz | hey jsgotangco | 03:53 |
| Belutz | so you're coming to jakarta? | 03:53 |
| jsgotangco | Belutz, hrmmmmm...am been busy lately :/ | 03:54 |
| jsgotangco | i could stay for a day...but that's still a big hrmmm... | 03:54 |
| Belutz | i see | 03:54 |
| jsgotangco | are you back in jakarta? | 03:55 |
| Belutz | yup | 03:56 |
| Belutz | since 28th of december | 03:56 |
| jsgotangco | mdke, awesome wiki editing. thanks | 03:56 |
| jsgotangco | how's the weather there? It's been cold here lately | 03:57 |
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| Belutz | it's still hot, but cold when its raining | 03:59 |
| mdke | jsgotangco, thanks, np | 04:01 |
| Belutz | jsgotangco, you know where you're going to stay yet? | 04:02 |
| jsgotangco | Belutz, not really that would be easy though if its just one day | 04:03 |
| jsgotangco | you'll know :) | 04:03 |
| Belutz | hehehe | 04:04 |
| Belutz | jsgotangco, so who else will be coming to jakarta? | 04:05 |
| jsgotangco | Belutz, oh its mostly canonical staff (its business oriented) | 04:05 |
| jsgotangco | i just wanted to go to jakarta | 04:05 |
| jsgotangco | hehe | 04:05 |
| Belutz | hahaha | 04:05 |
| Belutz | you bring your wife and daughter? | 04:06 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 04:06 |
| jsgotangco | probably stay for a weekend | 04:06 |
| Belutz | great | 04:06 |
| jsgotangco | we're going to talk about it this weekend | 04:06 |
| Belutz | hmm i hope i could skip office at feb 1st | 04:07 |
| jsgotangco | tiger air has this nice package | 04:07 |
| Belutz | i see, shop till you drop in jakarta :D | 04:07 |
| jsgotangco | i wanted to take time out with the family...i couldn't book a decent flight to hongkong disneyland :/ | 04:08 |
| Belutz | that's great to have time with family :) | 04:09 |
| Belutz | maybe you could visit Taman Mini Indonesia Indah (Mini Park of Indonesia) | 04:10 |
| jsgotangco | how much is $1USD right now? | 04:10 |
| Belutz | wait let me check | 04:11 |
| Belutz | hmm it's about Rp.9650 | 04:11 |
| jsgotangco | wow | 04:13 |
| jsgotangco | what would that get? | 04:13 |
| Belutz | what do you have in mind? :D | 04:13 |
| Belutz | with that you can almost have 3 cans of coca cola for $1USD | 04:14 |
| jsgotangco | wow its like korea then | 04:16 |
| jsgotangco | hehe | 04:16 |
| jsgotangco | so its possible for me to have a million in my wallet | 04:16 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 04:16 |
| Belutz | yup :D | 04:17 |
| Belutz | just be careful with your money | 04:17 |
| Belutz | and if you can, don't buy things from sellers on the streets, they might give you higher price | 04:18 |
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| mdke | jsgotangco, oh, one thing I didn't have the stomach to move was the old Meetings stuff, it will be worth doing that at some stage I guess | 04:28 |
| jsgotangco | oh that's a pretty deep hole we're looking on those stuff | 04:31 |
| mdke | there are about 10 pages I guess | 04:37 |
| mdke | not too bad | 04:37 |
| mdke | we should do a DocumentationTeam/Meeting page, then have Agenda and past meetings as subpages of that, I guess | 04:38 |
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| shirish | hi all | 04:52 |
| mdke | hi shirish | 04:55 |
| shirish | hi mdke looking if somebody can clean up this doc https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptMoveHowto as it doesn't give full info. | 04:57 |
| mdke | shirish, anyone is free to alter docs on the wiki, you can login and edit it | 04:58 |
| shirish | I have been trying things out & somethings have not been mentioned as to what the output should come, so would like to know how the actual operation takes place before changing stuff. Stuck at place. | 04:59 |
| mdke | ah, well it is in our cleanup category, hopefully if someone knows something about apt-move, they will improve it | 05:00 |
| shirish | I have been trying to know if somebody knows something about how to do things in apt-move but till now 0 results. Any ideas? | 05:01 |
| mdke | you could try "man apt-move" and see if there is any better information | 05:02 |
| mdke | or post to the mailing list, ask in #ubuntu, etc | 05:02 |
| shirish | I'm there in #ubuntu, which mailing list should I ask stuff on? | 05:04 |
| mdke | ubuntu-users | 05:05 |
| shirish | thanx will do the same. | 05:05 |
| mdke | shirish, np, if you find anything, be sure to add it to the page :) | 05:06 |
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| jsgotangco | good night | 06:18 |
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| LaserJock | hi theCore | 11:09 |
| theCore | hi LaserJock | 11:09 |
| theCore | i am currently working on the guide | 11:10 |
| LaserJock | great, I just got a package into Universe and working on some MOTU Science stuff at the moment but maybe a little later you could send me what you have | 11:11 |
| theCore | ok | 11:12 |
| LaserJock | theCore: what section are you working on | 11:14 |
| theCore | i'm finishing my draft of debhelper, then I'm going to start the w/o helper section | 11:15 |
| LaserJock | I was going to work on the w/o helper section too but I haven't really done much there | 11:16 |
| theCore | i was thinking to convert the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/2005-12-10 page for this section | 11:18 |
| theCore | it's quite complete | 11:18 |
| theCore | it cover most of the topic | 11:19 |
| LaserJock | right, I also have a transcript (I think) of a motu-school session (unoffical) I had with somebody before that one | 11:20 |
| LaserJock | I think I even used hello for that one | 11:21 |
| theCore | yea, I got it | 11:25 |
| LaserJock | from where? | 11:25 |
| theCore | 19:32:14 <LaserJock> selinium: have you seen the Debian New Maintainer's Guide?19:32:34 <selinium> LaserJock, Ok, I have just realised, i have rebuilt my machine since I installed Pbuilder. I will need to install that again! | 11:26 |
| theCore | 19:33:28 <LaserJock> selinium: well, you don't even need to do that first | 11:26 |
| theCore | 19:34:22 <selinium> ok | 11:26 |
| theCore | 19:34:50 <selinium> LaserJock, I am all yours! | 11:26 |
| theCore | ;) | 11:26 |
| LaserJock | yeah, that's it. I just found my copy | 11:26 |
| theCore | my draft is too slim | 11:31 |
| LaserJock | that's ok we can fill it out as we go | 11:32 |
| theCore | did you commited my files ? | 11:35 |
| LaserJock | no, I don't have commit access yet (mdke made a request for me last week) but I was waiting until we have enought to replace what is currently at doc.ubuntu.com | 11:38 |
| theCore | ah ok, good idea | 11:45 |
| Burgwork | revert? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomatedProblemReports?action=diff | 11:51 |
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