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bud_tamale: than i think it should work on kernel 2.612:00
bud_tamale: wait a second12:00
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tamalebud_:  how do i try - it's just two RPM files12:00
PuMpErNiCkLediablo69: http://logitech-en-amr.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/logitech_en_amr.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=74&p_created=1083959732&p_sid=1Pwuq7Zh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MSZwX3Byb2RzPTg0NCw1JnBfY2F0cz0mcF9wdj0yLjUmcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PWxpbnV4&p_li=&p_topview=112:00
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globetimfrost, I was afraid you would say that (I would).12:00
PuMpErNiCkLewhoa12:00
Papoosehow do I install the Samba package on Ubuntu?12:00
PuMpErNiCkLesorry people12:00
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PuMpErNiCkLeI had no idea the link would be that long O_O12:00
bimberimjbjr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport and http://packages.ubuntu.com/12:01
mjbjrthanks12:01
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Mitch_OwenHey guys, anyone know of a general wireless controller program for ubuntu?12:01
bud_tamale: thats no good12:01
mika0800confirmed: the *wrong* 3c905 module is NOT loaded. So, it seems that even if the kernel tries to load a wromg module, it will not be loaded because a 905 NIC does not exist12:01
bimberimjbjr: yw :)12:01
Mitch_Owenlike KwifiManager without installing KDE?12:01
IdleOne!tell Papoose  about samba12:01
tamalebud_:  well, that's what linksys has on their site12:01
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DelvienAnyone remember how to check your FPS??12:01
bud_tamale: http://network.free-driver-download.com/Linksys/14924/Linksys-EG1032-v2-Gigabit-Network-Adapter-Driver-1.30-Windows-Linux.html12:01
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diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: here's what it said "bus 001 device 003: ID 041e:401c creative techonology, ltd webcam nx [PD1110] 12:01
bud_have you tried that12:01
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bimberiubotu tell Delvien about glxgears12:02
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joshuaanyone?12:02
tamalebud_:  I think that's exactly waht i downloaded12:02
joshuahow do i clear my Creative nano, i deleted the folders but the mp3 player only has 53 mb space and its a 256mb :( can anyone help?i used the creative cd software in windows to clean it before but i dont know an app for linux ??12:02
bud_tamale: that is zip file12:02
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mika0800And, again the network does not work at all. Last time I got it working using some command I found from a Linux guide book. (And doing so misusing my network, because the book only gave a hint how to assign a permanent IP but not how to order the NIC to get one by DHCP)12:02
bimberijoshua: empty the Trash ?12:02
PuMpErNiCkLediablo69: k12:03
tamalebud_:  Yes, and in the "linux" folder in that zip file, there are two more folders - 2.2 and 2.4, and in each of those folders are two RPM files12:03
bud_tamale: ah ok12:03
Delvienbimberi thanks12:03
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huhn_2punkt0(00:00:07) <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: you can always install normal ubuntu (with gnome) and go from there| I'll try that12:03
egon_Can anybody give me a pointer at installing Unbuntu (5.10, server install) on a SATA drive?  The install procedure doesn't see it...12:03
huhn_2punkt0but not today12:03
bimberiDelvien: np :)12:03
huhn_2punkt0already late12:03
huhn_2punkt0thanks12:03
tamalebud_:  WAIT12:03
tamalebud_:  there's a install-612.tar.bz2 file too12:03
Delvienbimberi thats a ridiculous command :p12:03
pinkisntwellhuhn_2punkt0: you might want to check to make sure your network card is supported in ubuntu12:03
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tamalelemme put that on my flash drive and put it on the linux machine12:04
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bimberiDelvien: lol12:04
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OrbordeI have a problem involving chroot. I'm on a 64bit system, and since Flash doesn't run 64bit, I set up a chroot to contain Firefox and other 32bit-dependent things. The problem is, however, I cannot get them to share the same /etc/resolv.conf ; the chroot's version never gets updated by the DHCP thing, even though I've tried hardlinking it to the main system copy. Why won't hardlinking work?12:04
globethanks all....appreciate your help and patience with an n00b! ;-D12:04
bud_tamale: untar the package12:04
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bangohoy hoy12:05
OldSpiceAPhoy ho12:05
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bangowhat's all this then?12:05
bud_tamale: what kernel versio do you have12:05
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diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: any idea on which driver I should use12:05
tamalebud_:  2.612:05
poningru!tell bango about ubuntu12:05
bud_tamale: type uname -r12:06
narlesdoes firefox play embedded movies with ubuntu using totem ???12:06
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OldSpiceAPAnyone here up for a major helpme challenge? No one else understands my problem.12:06
OldSpiceAP?12:06
bangoI just installed ubuntu yesterday12:06
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narlesi read on the forums that it doesn't.. so i installed mplayer plugins.. but i am starting to like totem...12:06
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IdleOneOldSpiceAP>  ask12:06
PuMpErNiCkLediablo69: Working on it...12:06
sapohi all, anyone here using nvidia with 3d in dapper?12:06
_jasonnarles, by default it should, but I prefer the mplayerplug-in12:06
Delvieni wish they had more Mp3 player support other than ipod...12:06
diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: same here12:06
diablo69:)12:06
joshuabimberi: thanks :) such an obvious solution hehe .. had me baffled :D12:06
bud_tamale: what does uname -r said12:06
tamalebud_: 2.6.12-8-38612:06
mika0800yes: the book gives something like this: ifconfig 192.168.0.26 netmask 255.255.255.0 up12:06
OldSpiceAPWhy would the entire contents of my home directory dissappear?  about 10 gigs ?12:06
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OldSpiceAPits not moutned seperately or anything.. it is just gone.12:07
narles_jason, mplayer works better as a firefox plugin you would say?12:07
mika0800So, how do I do otherwise the same but I want to use DHCP ?12:07
OldSpiceAPonly the mnt and Desktop directories are left12:07
_jasonnarles, yep12:07
bangojigs, that's unfortunate OldSpiceAP12:07
bud_tamale: try to upgrade your kernel to 2.6.12-9-38612:07
tamalebud_:  don't I need a netowkring connection to do that12:07
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bimberijoshua: np (i had the same baffling experience) :)12:07
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edoardoi've done it12:08
edoardoyou guys12:08
mika0800And, I want to stay at 2.6.10 kernel, but still would like to get my network working !12:08
OldSpiceAPWell, I know what I was doing when it happened... I attempted to run limewire as root, because running as a regular user failed.  Running as root worked fine.  I decided to log out and in to let bashrc update and my home dir was empty12:08
edoardoall i had to do was set BroweAddress to IF(eth0)12:08
narlesdoes anyone know how to check how much space is used and free on your ubuntu partition?12:08
bud_tamale: yes12:08
bud_tamale: try this http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=165245&st=012:08
midwinternarles: df -h12:08
kameronNew_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)12:08
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kameroncan i give it just any ttf?12:08
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_jasonnarles, others swear by the vlc plugin.  Some like using the MediaPlayerConnectivity extension to play embedded videos in there preferred player12:09
_jasonnarles, in a terminal: df12:09
mika0800how come the command ifconfig knows what is "eth0" but the command "ifup" does not ?!12:09
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_jasonnarles, 'df -h'  may be easier to read12:09
stevr1ithi12:09
Hendynarles: of the choices available, I'd probably pick the mplayer plugin for Firefox.12:09
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stevr1itcan you help me. I have two problems. I have installe LICQ e gnome ICQ but both do not work12:10
bud_tamale: is that good link that i gave you12:10
WildZeckstevr1it, try gaim12:11
egon_Anybody have experience trying to get a Penguin Computing Relion 1300 to install with Breezy?  Mine won't seem to see the hard drive...12:11
jamieI am having an Issue with Ubuntu install program. I am installing on sata drives and want to use a custom partitioning scheme. I am used to Gentoo. I am trying /boot as etc3, /home as reiserfs, / as reiserfs and swap. It keeps failing with these custom options. But if I use the automatic options it installs fine. Is it the reiserfs? or does it not like custom options?12:11
tamalebud_:  It says he got it working using syskonnect12:11
tamalebud_:  I don't know what that is12:11
bud_tamale: look that part for kernel12:11
stevr1itok12:11
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bud_tamale: which module you have to load or out it in kernel12:12
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PuMpErNiCkLediablo69: http://zc0302.sourceforge.net/zc0302.php?page=cams and http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html look promising. :)12:12
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bud_tamale: put it in12:12
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bud_tamale: have you ever compiled kernel12:12
tamalebud_:  Nope12:12
tamalebud_:  This is my first lnux instal :] 12:12
narles_jason, i would use VLC.. but i'm having problems with sound.. VLC can't find the audio codec qdm2...12:12
jamieHelp! I am having an Issue with Ubuntu install program. I am installing on sata drives and want to use a custom partitioning scheme. I am used to Gentoo. I am trying /boot as etc3, /home as reiserfs, / as reiserfs and swap. It keeps failing with these custom options. But if I use the automatic options it installs fine. Is it the reiserfs? or does it not like custom options?12:12
bud_tamale: well this could help12:13
PuMpErNiCkLediablo69: Also http://forum.kanotix.net/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-4513.html <- this page mainly has instructions that someone else was following, but apparently they have the same camera as you.12:13
PuMpErNiCkLediablo69: It's where I picked up the other two links.12:13
mika0800any idea, how to use ifconfig if I want to configure my NIC  using DHCP ?12:13
Hendikins|Workjamie: Patience. If somebody can assist you they will do so. Please wait at least 10 minutes before repeating the question.12:13
tamalebud_:  Unfortunately, I have to run right now... can I reach you via AIM / ICQ / MSN lateR?12:13
johnes123i cannot mount an external 80GB FAT32 parition in gnome--any ideas?12:13
bud_tamale: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8506412:13
mika0800(with fixed IP, I already would know the answer)12:13
narles_jason, i installed the win32 codecs.. and even the gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.8.7 file which supposdly fixes qdm2, but it didn't help VLC either12:13
bud_tamale: try with thic12:13
jamieHendikins, sorry12:13
Hendikins|Workjamie: It's just it gets a bit hectic in here, that's all :-)12:14
_jasonnarles, according to http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html, vlc doesn't have qdm2 as a feature.  I don't know if there is a way to add it in12:14
narles_jason, ok.. so other forms of media that don't require it should work with VLC?12:14
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_jasonnarles, should.  Do you have an example file I could try that requires qdm2?12:15
bud_tamale: have you seen messages12:15
Kr0ntabwhats goin on people...12:15
OldSpiceAPno one knows eh lol sad times12:15
Kr0ntabhowdy...12:15
tamalebud_:  yes, i added you to ICQ12:15
tamalethanks12:15
bdevelHello World,  I think i hosed my install... I did a "apt-get -f install" and it removed move like 50 packages... And now I can't install anything new because it complains I have a newer version of cpp-4.0, gcc++4.0 then the default ubuntu install.. So, how do I force it to install packages (even if I have newer verions)12:15
bud_tamale: np12:15
tamalebud_: my icq is 12324959512:15
narles_jason, yes12:15
gnomefreakOldSpiceAP, what is the issue you are having?12:15
OldSpiceAPI think I'll just ditch ubuntu then - this crap shouldn't happen.... well.. or at least ditch ext312:15
edoardoyou guys, does anyone in here use ivman?12:15
PuMpErNiCkLediablo69: Try 'sudo modprobe spca5xx'12:15
bud_tamale: ok i will add you12:15
OldSpiceAPWhy would the entire contents of my home directory dissappear?  about 10 gigs ?12:15
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OldSpiceAPgnomefreak sadly no one has an answer12:16
diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: can't I install the source code for the kernel with a deb package12:16
gnomefreakOldSpiceAP, have you done a mv command?12:16
OldSpiceAPno12:16
johnes123I cannot mount an external 80GB FAT32 partition in gnome -- any ideas?12:16
gnomefreakhmmmmm12:16
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pundaiOldSpiceAP, i've used linux for 6 years, ext3 for a while now and i've never had that... are you sure you didn't do something stupid12:16
pundai(i've done that)12:16
gnomefreakOldSpiceAP, what version of ubuntu?12:16
mika0800ok, for others who have network problems with 2.6 -series kernels: I previously reported  that I got my NIC at least partially working. True, but I only did it by misusing my network by assigning a fixed IP even when I should have udes DHCP instead, but do not know how12:16
clanpipehi12:16
ColonelPaniqueOldSpiceAP : hint: whatever happened, is probably your own fault. ;-)12:16
OldSpiceAPlol its 5.1012:16
OldSpiceAPI figured that but I know exactly what commands  I did that caused it - but don't see why they did12:16
pundaiwell you ran something as root apparently12:17
pundaiand you probably did sudo12:17
johnes123{i cannot mount an external 80GB FAT32 parition in gnome--any ideas?}12:17
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egon_Anybody have experience trying to get a Penguin Computing Relion 1300 (primary HD is SATA) to install with Breezy?  Mine won't seem to see the hard drive...12:17
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mika0800I think I will try the same again. Or, should I do *almost* the same but get a fixed IP outside of my DCHP area? (I limited the DHCP area so the last byte is always 0..127) so I can use numbers over 128 for fixed IP's, right ?12:18
narles_jason, this movie won't play in VLC when i downloaded and tried it12:18
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narles_jason, http://www.collegehumor.com/movies/1647089/12:18
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thegladiator#kubuntu12:18
PuMpErNiCkLediablo69: Does modprobe spca5xx work?12:18
diablo69nope12:18
ColonelPaniquepundai : from his exaplanation of the issue, that really has nothing to do with it.  he lost most of his home directory content, which he probably owned anyway, so he wouldn't have needed root privs for that.12:18
diablo69can't find modporb12:18
diablo69modprob12:18
PuMpErNiCkLemodprobe12:19
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PuMpErNiCkLe'sudo modprobe spca5xx'12:19
OldSpiceAPI'm putting together a synopisis of exactly what I did12:19
gnomefreakOldSpiceAP, 5.10 hasnt had that issue ever as far as i remember seeing. if you did some kind of cp or mv or something commadn than look to where you copied it or moved it to. as for ditching ext3 that wouldnt have caused it it would have caused alot more issue than just that, btw ext2 and 3 are same 3 has journeling. open up a file search and search for a file you had in home dir. it should be somewhere once you find that file yo12:19
gnomefreaku can bet the rest are same place than just mv it back to /home/username12:19
OldSpiceAPit'll be in nopaste in a sec12:19
_jasonnarles, ha I remember this episode.  Plays fine for me but i compiled vlc8.5 from source12:19
pinkisntwellOldSpiceAP said that limewire did this after he ran it with sudo12:19
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diablo69ohh one sec12:19
narlesreally12:19
OldSpiceAPsearches don't see the files12:19
OldSpiceAPgrep either12:19
gnomefreakthats not good :(12:20
CodenameKTl12:20
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narles_jason, haha... was a pretty good episode back in the day12:20
nekostareh12:20
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diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: didn't do anything12:20
narles_jason, so does VLC support most media types.. sans ones that need qdm2?12:20
nekostarwhen i use traceroute www.sitehere.com i only get 1 * * * 2 * * *  etc12:20
nekostarwhat could possibly be wrong with it12:20
_jasonnarles, yeah, won't play wmv either I think12:21
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[|Triple|] !breezy12:21
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade12:21
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PuMpErNiCkLediablo69: k12:21
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diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: what did you do yesterday12:22
narles_jason, does Totem or mplayer?12:22
Darky469annyone  has  experience  with  WINE ?12:22
johnes123i cannot mount an external 80GB FAT32 parition in gnome--any ideas?12:22
mweDarky469: well some12:22
OldSpiceAPhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/6t9ANy12.nln.html  <--- That is what I did that caused this issue12:22
OldSpiceAPdiablo69 I have some wine expirence yes12:22
Darky469oke  mwe ,  can u  help  me  with it  ?12:23
_jasonnarles, yes, once you install w32codecs.  I'd recommend you install totem-xine though (the default one uses gstreamer)12:23
Kr0ntabjohnes123, connected via USB?12:23
OldSpiceAPthough I'm on a breaking habit today12:23
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mweDarky469: I don't know. ask and I'll try12:23
johnes123Kr0ntab, yes12:23
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_jasonubotu, tell narles about w32codecs12:23
egon_Anybody have experience trying to get a Penguin Computing Relion 1300 (primary HD is SATA) to install with Breezy?  Mine won't seem to see the hard drive...12:23
narles_jason, i have the w32codecs installed12:23
Darky469i have  win  installed  on my  ubunbu,  and  now  i wanna  use  a  application  from windows12:24
OldSpiceAPwhich app specifically?12:24
mweDarky469: yes?12:24
narles_jason, i would be willing to compile VLC from source.. how did youd o it?12:24
_jasonnarles, then you should be able to play wmv's except for the latest version.  I think wmv10?12:24
Darky469 but  the  only thing  a  get acces  to is  notepad12:24
mweDarky469: you know only a very limitid number of programs work?12:24
Darky469 that works12:24
Kr0ntabby default ubuntu's kernel has the usb storage modules loaded...  you simply need to mount the drive with the appropriate commands...12:24
Kr0ntabwhat have you tried12:24
OldSpiceAPactually alot os stuff works now12:24
OldSpiceAPmost everything12:24
Darky469 no  i'm new  under linux12:24
OldSpiceAPat least somewhat12:24
mweum no12:24
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Darky469  tell u what i  want12:24
mwelike less than 1%12:24
narles_jason, my goal is to use mplayer for embedded movies.. and VLC for movies on my system12:25
sagarpevery time i boot up, X tries to use nvidia driver 7667 instead of 8168, and i have to reinstall the 8178 module before st arting X...what's going on!?12:25
OldSpiceAPTrue I only run maybe 10-20 win apps but they all work12:25
PuMpErNiCkLediablo69: yesterday?12:25
Darky469 i  try to get  the  explorere  or opera  under windows  working in wine12:25
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mweDarky469: that's probably hard. frankscorner.org has guides12:25
OldSpiceAPgnomefreak - any ideas on my troubles?12:25
gnomefreakOldSpiceAP, did you run locate <packagename> by chance by what you said and what i read there is something else wrong12:25
_jasonnarles, I just followed this: http://www.nanocrew.net/2005/09/01/compiling-vlc/ .  However when you install something from source do not use 'make install'.  Instead use 'checkinstall'.  Checkinstall will create a package so you can easily remove it in synaptic or apt-get.  I just use mplayer for everything.12:25
OldSpiceAPopera has a linux native version12:26
damnhilwhere can I find the log of apt-get to search the packages I installed?12:26
mjbjrlooking at the package db, I see this:   sylpheed (2.1.1-1ubuntu0.1) [universe]  [security]       what do 'universe' and 'security' mean?12:26
_jasonubotu, tell narles about checkinstall12:26
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johnes123when i use mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/USB i get mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist12:26
mweDarky469: and I believe winehq has a compatiblity list12:26
diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: yeah like yesterday I was on the hwy with my underglow on in my 94 eclispe, and I raced a acura rsx and beta it :)12:26
OldSpiceAPgnomefreak - I'm not sure I understood what you meant?12:26
Darky469i have the time  to find  out  , the reason i want that  is  that macromedia shockwave  don't work  under linux12:26
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mwejohnes123: so you don't have that hardware. find the right device name12:26
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gnomefreakthe command locate use it to see if it can locate a file that was in your homedir12:27
diablo69beat*12:27
mwejohnes123: or check that your hardware is recognized12:27
PuMpErNiCkLediablo69: lol12:27
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Darky469and  my  kids  want to go to some  sites  that needed  macromedia shockwave12:27
OldSpiceAPI tried locate, find, and grep for some text files that used to be there12:27
narles_jason, thanks..  i'll play around with it12:27
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Darky469 like  habbohotel.nl12:27
stevr1itgreat now gaim works as icq12:27
johnes123the hardware is not recognized12:27
stevr1itthank you12:27
Darky469 to play a  game12:27
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gnomefreakand your background is no longer what it was on your desktop?12:27
diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: yeah man I googleld it and they ahve around 195 horse stock, and I was ahead of him by a good a 6 ft, and he had exaust, so I guess my non turbo eclipse is rougly 220 hp12:27
mwejohnes123: duh. then you can't mount it12:27
mwejohnes123: what is it?12:28
jamieI am having an Issue with Ubuntu install program. I am installing on sata drives and want to use a custom partitioning scheme. I am trying /boot as etc3 100M , /home as reiserfs 100G, / as reiserfs 50G and swap 2G. It keeps failing with these custom options. But if I use the automatic options it installs fine. Is it the reiserfs? or does it not like custom options?12:28
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stevr1itnow the second proble is the modem that does not work, this is a laptop acer 2500 internal modem, who can help me?12:28
OldSpiceAPgnomefreak my wallpaper was stored in my home folder12:28
McJerryi am using ubuntu, how would i tell someone to enable remote desktop to allow others to view and connect on kubuntu?12:28
Kr0ntabjohnes123, in one terminal... type "tail -f /var/log/messages"... then plug in yer HD....12:28
OldSpiceAPand all of my hidden directories are still there12:28
johnes123mwe, it's Western Digital WD80012:28
OldSpiceAPjust the non dot directories dissappeared12:28
mwejamie: custom worked for me with reiserfs12:28
Kr0ntabthis will give you some useful information12:28
mwejohnes123: what kind of drive is that?12:29
jamiemwe, what partitions did you use?12:29
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nightwatch!make-kpkg12:29
ubotuWish i knew, nightwatch12:29
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mwejamie: just one big / and a 2GB swap12:29
_jasonnarles, np.  You won't be able to find the file to get wmv support, but the comments point you to: http://multimedia.cx/eggs/?p=129 and you can get it there.12:29
gnomefreakok OldSpiceAP what did you mean by shortcuts and stuff gone? did you have shortcuts on your desktop for your home dir.?12:29
johnes123mwe, it's one partition 80GB FAT3212:29
CodenameKTjamie: it might be best if u make all partitions reiser12:29
stevr1itwho canhelp me to set up my internal modem? how to recognise it and have it working?12:29
mwejohnes123: yeah but sata or what?12:29
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johnes123mwe, i'm not sure how to check?12:30
CodenameKTstevr1it it probably is a soft modem and unsupported12:30
jamieCodenameKT,  I am used to having to use etc3 ad /boot in gentoo you sure that is ok? and is /boot even useful with ubuntu12:30
Darky469mwe tnx  for that site , have  a  look at it now12:30
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bimberiMcJerry: vino-preferences (in a terminal)12:30
OldSpiceAPNo, I had a transparant panel with some icons in it that were links to common apps.. a launcher or dock I suppose... the icons for those programs were in my home dir but when I logged in they are now all default gnome icons as their custom icons are gone gnomefreak12:30
diablo69PuMpErNiCkLe: will be back later man, I am goign to head up to blockbuster soon and hopefully race on the way there12:30
mwejohnes123: you don't know if it's scsi or not?12:30
stevr1ithow can i know it?12:30
jamieCodenameKT, what I really care about is the /home being different partition and reiser on that and /12:31
bimberiMcJerry: ... or via ALT-F212:31
CodenameKTjamie: yeah it is ok. and u prob don't need so much swap fyi12:31
mjbjrjohnes123: try 'lshw', tho I'm not sure ubuntu has this utility12:31
Kr0ntabmwe, he said it was external....  perhaps USB?  firewire?12:31
pundaihow do you revert to an earlier kernel with ubuntu12:31
gnomefreakmwe, let me know when you get a spare moment to make sure im not missing something on this paste that went wrong :(12:31
jamieCodenameKT, I am used to the old 2x memory thing. lol12:31
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CodenameKTjamie: just reiser all of it12:31
jamieCodenameKT, ok i will try tks12:31
johnes123mjbjr, the command 'lshw' shows 'USB'12:32
mwejohnes123: try dmesg|less from a terminal and look for your drive12:32
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stevr1itno possibility then to set up my internal modem?12:32
mwegnomefreak: yes?12:32
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stevr1itwhere could i check if thismodem is supported?12:32
CodenameKTstevr1it: just tell me what kind it is12:32
gnomefreakmwe http://rafb.net/paste/results/6t9ANy12.nln.html   look at that his hme dir dissappered and i cant see any command he used to do that12:32
OldSpiceAPgnomefreak what confuses me is that 10 gigs of data would take a good ammount of time to rm.  there was no disk clatter, etc... it vanished quietly.12:33
stevr1iti don't know12:33
johnes123mwe, the drive does not show up12:33
stevr1ithow could i know it?12:33
jamiealso what is the best way to get accelleration on my ATI X300 working, I used synaptic to add fglrx then changed ati to "fglrx in xorg.conf, it worked but my fps were not as high as i am used to12:33
CodenameKTstevr1it: 99% of the time if it is built into mobo it is controllerless and therefor is not supported. unless u have a really old mobo12:33
gnomefreakOldSpiceAP, takes no time to delete things with right commands12:33
mebaran151has anyone successfully setup up eclipse for amd64 on Ubuntu12:33
gnomefreakor wrong ones too lol12:33
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mebaran151it seems like a good ide12:33
mebaran151by the way12:33
johnes123mebaran151, i have set up eclipse12:33
OldSpiceAPyea but to delete something so that its inodes and datablocks are gone...12:33
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mjbjrjohnes123: does 'ls /dev' show an /dev/sda1  ?12:33
mebaran151what is the best simple text editor12:34
mebaran151johnes123, from the pkg's?12:34
Kr0ntabjohnes123,   you can help us by typing "sudo fdisk -l" and pasting all the output into www.pastebin.com12:34
OldSpiceAPgrep doesnt even find any traces of these files12:34
priestmebaran151, vi12:34
stevr1iti will check on the web12:34
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mebaran151priest, other than vim12:34
_jasonmebaran151, nano if you want simple12:34
mebaran151I need a grpahical12:34
mebaran151one12:34
mebaran151I use vim when I can12:34
bimberistevr1it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto12:34
priestmebaran151, I didn't say Vim, i said Vi :P12:34
mebaran151but in this case I'd like something graphical12:34
OldSpiceAPI've run limewire before as sudo for testing purposes12:34
gnomefreakOldSpiceAP, are you sure that is all you did?12:34
Kr0ntabjohnes123, then give us the URL12:34
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CodenameKTjamie: not sure I have ati my self but was only getting 30fps. It is possible it is because i am using default refresh rates that r probably low in comparison to what they actually r on monitor but I don't really know12:34
mebaran151because I'll be doing a lot of cp and paste12:34
mwegnomefreak: that's odd.12:34
OldSpiceAPYEs because I turned on my pc for that tast12:34
OldSpiceAPtask*12:34
gnomefreakOldSpiceAP, not a good habit if you dont have to12:34
OldSpiceAPit was off before12:34
priestmebaran151,  if you don't like vi, try "ed".12:34
OldSpiceAPbooted up fine, no trouble.12:35
gnomefreakmwe thats what im saying :)12:35
gnomefreak:(*12:35
mebaran151priest, cli?12:35
OldSpiceAPdid that and it died - I did nothing else in between.12:35
priestmebaran151, yes.12:35
jamieCodenameKT, tks anyway12:35
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mwegnomefreak: trojan or something maybe12:35
mebaran151priest, I like vim for my cli work12:35
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OldSpiceAPexcept a google search once I figured out what happened.12:35
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CodenameKTjamie: yeah, hope i gave a little direction12:35
mebaran151but I would like a convenient graphical editor12:35
gnomefreakOldSpiceAP, what did you use lime for?12:35
mebaran151kind of like gvim12:35
gnomefreakmwe i think you hit it12:35
mebaran151but without all the kludgery12:35
jamieCodenameKT, I appreciate it.12:35
tuvok302has anybody had trouble with getting the Intel536 driver to work?12:35
priestmebaran151, and you want a editor for X?12:36
johnes123mjbjr, no it does not12:36
OldSpiceAPActually I didn't run it all the way.  I started it to see if it would freeze like it did as a regular user.  It asked me to go through the first run wizzard.  I killed it instead.12:36
mebaran151yeah bascially12:36
OldSpiceAPwell canceled12:36
priestmebaran151, in that case, gvim is the shit :D12:36
johnes123mebaran151, i just used sudo apt-get install eclipse12:36
mebaran151johnes123, yeah12:37
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mebaran151it's giving me classpath errors12:37
stevr1ityast lo riconosce (il12:37
stevr1it> modem) come ixp AC'97 aci technologies12:37
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PuMpErNiCkLebbiab12:37
mwemebaran151: bad java installation?12:37
stevr1itis it supported?12:37
gnomefreakim sorry OldSpiceAP i dont see anything you did that would have caused it im truthfully not sure what happpen  mwe  may be right could be trojan ot something12:37
stevr1itmodem ixp AC'97 aci technologies12:37
mwemebaran151: or missing CLASS_PATH12:37
CodenameKTstevr1it: google it12:37
johnes123Kr0ntab:  here's the output URL: http://pastebin.com/49710612:38
mebaran151mwe, I think bad Java install12:38
mebaran151I'm on AMD6412:38
OldSpiceAPTrojan12:38
OldSpiceAPthat would make me mad12:38
gnomefreakOldSpiceAP, its possible12:38
mwestevr1it: I think ac97 is supported12:38
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Kr0ntabjohnes123, is your external drive connected ?12:38
gnomefreakbut OldSpiceAP im not sure what it is12:38
OldSpiceAPbad java install?12:38
johnes123Kr0ntab, yes12:38
OldSpiceAPor was that not directed at me?12:38
gnomefreakfor you i doubt it12:38
stevr1itthank you but where to find information12:39
gnomefreakno that was to mwe from mebaran15112:39
OldSpiceAPwierd that none of the hidden directories are gone.12:39
OldSpiceAPok sry12:39
stevr1iton google tehre are thousands of links12:39
gnomefreakOldSpiceAP, hidden dirs are just that hidden12:39
mwemebaran151: is it installed at all?12:39
CodenameKTstevr1it: Yeah I went to the first one and it said not supported :o)12:39
mebaran151priest, you know any editors like Kate but more gnome friendly12:39
mebaran151I really liked Kate12:39
mwemebaran151: sun java12:39
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mebaran151it did function folding too12:39
CodenameKTstevr1t: like i thought it is a winmodem12:39
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mebaran151mwe, I tried installing it12:39
aggressorhey12:39
Kr0ntabjohnes123, is your drive USB?  or something else?12:39
mebaran151but it confused Openoffice12:40
stevr1iti will check on ubuntu12:40
mebaran151and I have to type as well12:40
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mebaran151and I don't think it installed correctly12:40
mwemebaran151: tried? did it succeed or what?12:40
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mjbjrjohnes123: does 'lsusb' show it?12:40
aggressorcan someone help me12:40
mebaran151eclipse bailed with errors12:40
OldSpiceAPgnomefreak --- ?????12:40
OldSpiceAPlol12:40
woodgrainis there a keystroke to open bash?12:40
mebaran151but I have feeling gcj was being bad12:40
johnes123Kr0ntab, it's USB, however, I cannot even get a jump drive to connect (I used to be able to however)12:40
mebaran151woodgrain ctrl -alt - f[1 - 6] 12:40
mebaran151you can get yourself a nice little bash terminal that way12:41
mwemebaran151: I think you need sun java12:41
mebaran151mwe12:41
dooglusOldSpiceAP: do you know that root has a different home directory than your user?12:41
gnomefreakOldSpiceAP, i dont know i would hate to tell you to re-install without knowing what is wrong :(12:41
mebaran151how do I disable gcj Java12:41
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mwemebaran151: I don't think gcj will work with eclipse12:41
Kr0ntabjohnes123, now type in "lsmod | grep usb" and use pastebin12:41
mwemebaran151: you have sun jdk?12:41
narles_jason, compiling from scratch is fun12:41
Kr0ntabyou may be missing usb_storage module...12:41
gnomefreakmebaran151, sudo update-alternatives --config java12:41
Eleafoooeewww~~12:42
Kr0ntabor something else...12:42
_jasonnarles, done already?12:42
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narles_jason, in the process12:42
McJerryif i were to shell into someones kubuntu install, what config file would i need to edit for their remote desktop options?12:42
_jasonnarles, ah, let me know how it turns out12:42
mika0800still interested in configuring missing network cards ?12:42
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johnes123Kr0ntab, here's the output URL: http://pastebin.com/49711412:43
cello_raspare there any graphical batch downloaders available?12:43
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narles_jason, what was that bit about checkinstall again? i forgot where i needed to do that12:43
TyrsisDoes anyone know if 5.10 supports BroadCOM WLAN ??12:43
_jasoncello_rasp, gwget, d4x, aria I think12:43
Tyrsisor will I have to configure it with Ndiswrapper ?12:44
OldSpiceAPthere is a wireless compatibility chart somewhere12:44
OldSpiceAPI just forget wehre12:44
gnomefreak!hardware12:44
ubotufrom memory, hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport12:44
gnomefreakthere12:44
Kr0ntabjohnes123, hmm... they're certainly there.   "tail -f /var/log/messages" ... unplug yer device... then plug it back in...  give it a good 15-20 seconds after you plug it in to paste it.12:44
dooglusOldSpiceAP: did you log in as root instead of as your user?12:44
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cello_rasp_jason: d4x and aria do not, but i will have yet to try gwget. thanks12:44
mweTyrsis: what chip is that?12:44
TyrsisI have no clue12:44
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Tyrsisonly thing I know its a BroadCOM12:44
_jasoncello_rasp, then gwget won't, it's the simplest one12:45
TyrsisIntergrated12:45
_jasoncello_rasp, what do you mean by batch download?12:45
mweTyrsis: no model number or anything?12:45
TyrsisIts a Compaq M2000 laptop12:45
mika0800with a few commands, I could restore my network card to its half-working state. I can PING LAN, I can access HTTP / HTML -pages from local network using direct IP -addresses. But I still cannot access internet and I also cannot mount samba resources from another linux machine.12:45
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OldSpiceAPdogluus root account is disabled12:45
dooglusOldSpiceAP: ok.12:45
OldSpiceAPhome folder is still /home/brant12:45
mweTyrsis: in that case I'd first try the laptop wiki12:45
mebaran151mwe, I was boing to use the blackdown sdk12:45
Tyrsisok12:45
mebaran151because it has the nifty firefox plugin12:45
dooglusOldSpiceAP: do you have 10 gigs more disk space than you used to have?12:45
jamieI am doing an expert install, my question is which kernel is the newest? is it the 2.6.12-9-386?12:45
cello_rasp_jason: by batch download I mean downloading by wildcards (effectively regex)12:46
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OldSpiceAPyes it is now free space12:46
OldSpiceAPit was physically deleted from the disk12:46
dooglusOldSpiceAP: "df -h" shows you have more free space now?12:46
tolstoyTyrsis: did you try the network-manager package yet?12:46
OldSpiceAPyes12:46
dooglusOldSpiceAP: that is crazy.12:46
mwemebaran151: I don't know if that works. maybe12:46
OldSpiceAPabout 10 gigs extra12:46
dooglusOldSpiceAP: I've never heard of that happening12:46
OldSpiceAPright about the size of my home folder12:46
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mebaran151mwe, tried that12:46
TyrsisI am just about to install Ubuntu thats why I am asking ahead of time12:46
dooglusOldSpiceAP: you said that the hidden folders didn't get deleted.  are you sure that they didn't just get recreated when you logged on?12:46
mebaran151but openoffice still chokes on bad java12:46
tuvok302I'm having trouble installing my Intel536EP driver, whenever i "make 536" it says "kernel source needed"12:47
OldSpiceAPno I still have my .wine folder for instance12:47
mweTyrsis: a wiki search came up with this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/CompaqPresarioM200012:47
woodgrainwhoever told me to c-alt-F1 really screwed me -- go suck an egg, jerk.12:47
OldSpiceAPprograms I installed as user are still there12:47
dooglusOldSpiceAP: run a "ls -alt" and see what the oldest thing in your home directory is.  it will be the last thing listed12:47
johnes123Kr0ntab, here's the output URL:http://pastebin.com/49712012:47
narles_jason, what was that bit about checkinstall again? i forgot where i needed to do that12:47
OldSpiceAPc alt F1 should get you a login prompt12:47
gnomefreakwoodgrain, what were you trying to do?12:47
tolstoyTyrsis: i've generally had good luck, but this ipw2200BG intel wireless device is driving me crazy.  i get an ip, just can't actually connect to any servers.12:47
mika0800is there something that I should test with this half-broken setup (which I plan to delete from my HD anyway) ... or should I go directly to formatting my linux partition ?12:48
_jasonnarles, instead of doing 'make install'.  You do 'checkinstall'.  You need to install checkinstall though.12:48
OldSpiceAPits .bahshrc12:48
OldSpiceAP.bashrc*12:48
woodgrainOldSpiceAP,  it did do that but had no way of getting back, resulting in shut down and loss of data.12:48
dooglusyou probably shouldn't tell people how to Ctl-Alt-F1 without telling them how to Alt-F7 to get back here...12:48
narles_jason, when do i checkinstall.. with VLC itself?12:48
woodgrainMy fault for trusting blindly.12:48
mweTyrsis: it says the wifi works with ndiswrapper, you probably gotta check the ndiswrapper.sf.net page for the correct driver to use though12:48
OldSpiceAPit did do what?12:48
OldSpiceAPshutdown?12:48
Tyrsisok nwe12:49
woodgraindooglus, thanks, wish I'd known beforehand.12:49
mwemebaran151: why don't you just get sun-jdk ?12:49
dooglusOldSpiceAP: if you don't know how to switch back to X, and you don't know how to run a browser or IRC client in a VC then you have to reboot...12:49
woodgrainOldSpiceAP,  had to kill machine to get X running again.12:49
Kr0ntabjohnes123, well this shows nothing... I think it's more of a USB port issue.  1. you can check the BIOS to make sure USB ports are enabled.  2. make sure that (if this is a front USB port) that the port is physicaly connected.  3. Check to see if other USB ports (like the ones on the motherboard in back) work.12:49
mika0800Ctrl-Alt-Fx, where X=1..7 should switch virtual consoles. If you're running X, then try F2 instead of F1. And F7 (or F5 in Knoppix) to get back to X (=GUI)12:49
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johnes123Kr0ntab, I'm using an old gateay laptop so I only have one USB port12:49
OldSpiceAPwoodgrain ahh I see12:50
johnes123Kr0ntab, it looks like BIOS will be my only option--how would i do that?12:50
mika0800"you probably shouldn't tell people how to Ctl-Alt-F1 without telling them how to Alt-F7 to get back here..." ... While Alt-F7 may work, why not Ctrl-Alt F7 ... one less thing to remember !12:50
bimberiwoodgrain: that works for most people - although not for me either (causes X to crash like you) - but it was a reasonable piece of advice for someone to give you12:50
woodgrainmika0800, what I want is to open a bash onscreen in ubuntu/gnome12:50
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Kr0ntabjohnes123, I say give it a shot...  running out of options.12:50
OldSpiceAPwoodgrain that would be frustrating I'd guess.12:50
woodgrainbimberi, yeah, shouldn't have over-reacted.12:50
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woodgrainI admitted that already.12:50
dooglusOldSpiceAP: it sounds like someone put a "rm -r *" somewhere in one of your files.  that would leave 'hidden' files and folders12:50
OldSpiceAPbrb12:50
mebaran151mwe, I'm working with blackdown now12:50
mebaran151just for now12:50
OldSpiceAPohh12:50
stevr1itgreat it works now, the modem wirks i have found the information on howto wiki ubntu web page, thank you12:51
bimberiwoodgrain: k :)12:51
mebaran151only because it's in the repos12:51
OldSpiceAPan rm -r *?12:51
mika0800wg, oh, you mean in a window? Should find it somewhere in the GUI menu. Henerally known as "Terminal"12:51
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Kr0ntabjohnes123, USB ports sometimes get damaged from high ammounts of ESD... or from physical damage....12:51
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stevr1itthe last thing to set up is the video accellerator12:51
doogluswoodgrain: you know about Alt-F2 to get a shell prompt?  you can type 'gnome-terminal' there12:51
Johnny0gnomefreak:12:51
bimberiwoodgrain: actually it's interesting to see that it's happening to others (for me it's on a Dell Inspiron 500m Laptop)12:51
Johnny0gnomefreak: you around ?12:51
woodgraindooglus, that\s how I do it now ... tooo slowww.12:51
OldSpiceAPbrb for real now12:51
gnomefreakyes12:51
OldSpiceAPgotta make a bottle for the baby12:51
mwemebaran151: add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list to apt-get/synaptic sun-jdk: deb [WWW]  http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ breezy java12:52
woodgrainbimberi, I killed my machine c-meta-delete b/c I was stuck at that login and didn't knwo how to get out.12:52
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gnomefreakJohnny0,  what can i do for you?12:53
woodgraindooglus, how can I make "singlekey" = open bash shell in gnome?12:53
bimberiwoodgrain: what i see is that when i return with c-a-f7 X will just restart12:53
globewhat are the benefits of using KDE over Gnome?12:53
xeno_hi guys12:53
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globeIs it worth the hassle to re-install to switch?12:53
woodgrainbimberi,  I have the proper operation, I just didn't know how to use it when I tried it the first time so I metaflamed b/c.12:53
mweglobe: you don't need to reinstall12:53
Johnny0gnomefreak: remember the gnome desktop issue I was having - only coming up to a CLI when I rebooted ? :) somewhere along the line - I had uninstalled gdm12:53
xeno_hello from switzerland12:53
gnomefreakglobe, just install the one you dont have and just use whatever one you like12:53
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woodgrainxeno_, you're up late.12:53
mweglobe: just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:53
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globemwe. oh snap. okay. :-)12:54
doogluswoodgrain: you know you can add the terminal as a launcher on your panel?12:54
woodgraindooglus, can I run that from the keyboard?12:54
doogluswoodgrain: that makes "singleclick" open a terminal...12:54
globehow do I disable GUI login on startup?12:54
mweglobe: the benefit is you can get rid of the gnome crap. some people would use that same arguement in the opposite direction12:54
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doogluswoodgrain: I don't know how to make a shortcut for running stuff from a key12:55
xeno_yeah realy late.... i'm gonna go in troubles at work tomorow12:55
mweglobe: ie use gnome to get rid of kde krap12:55
johnes123Kr0ntab, thanks for your help, i guess i'm SOL12:55
woodgraindooglus, I went 'system-->prefs-->keyboard shortcuts" but the open terminal shortcut is 'disabled' .12:55
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bimberiglobe: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove12:55
Kr0ntabjohnes123, is this a new laptop?  or did you say it was old?12:55
globemwe: right.  I am not too worrie about having the extra crap sitting on my HD, as long as its not in memory12:55
johnes123Kr0ntab, it's from 199712:56
mweglobe: good point12:56
woodgrainhow do I enable a shortcut key?12:56
woodgrainthat's disabled now.12:56
EleafWhat is Ubuntu doing when it is "Calculating Module Dependencies" at boot?12:56
xeno_beybey and a nice day at all.12:56
doogluswoodgrain: what if you click on the word "disabled" and then press the key you want to use?12:56
Kr0ntabjohnes123, bummer.  I wonder if you have a USB mouse... optical one would light up for you.  I wonder if there's even any power coming out of that port.12:56
woodgraindooglus, will try.12:56
johnes123Kr0ntab, there is power to it, i haven't tried a mouse, give me a second...12:57
globemwe: after apt-get ting kde, how do I start it? Is KDE a different graphics front end for X, or a whole different system?12:57
woodgraindooglus, you are a god.12:57
OldSpiceAPa while different visual interface that runs on top of X12:57
woodgrainworkd like a charm.12:57
johnes123Kr0ntab, mouse lights up, but does not work...12:57
doogluswoodgrain: read the sentence at the bottom of that screen...  "to edit a shortcut..." it says.12:57
EleafWhat is Ubuntu doing when it is "Calculating Module Dependencies" at boot?12:57
Eleaflol12:57
mweglobe: just another window manager. it comes with a lot of apps though. you can still use gnome apps in kde and the other way around as well12:58
dooglusEleaf: you'll be pleased to hear that dapper doesn't do that, whatever it is.12:58
woodgraindooglus, thanks, I got all hurried and didn't look!12:58
Kr0ntabjohnes123,   "tail -f /var/log/messages" ...   plug in the mouse.  you know the drill....12:58
mweglobe: are you using graphical login?12:58
globemwe: right. I learned that one today.12:58
globemwe: yep, but I am trying to figure out how to shut that off....12:58
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Kr0ntabjohnes123, if you don't see anything... then it's probably a USB port issue for sure.12:59
Eleafdooglus, lol..  Ok.  Because mine is freezing at that..12:59
mweglobe: sudo update-rc.d -f remove gdm12:59
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dooglusEleaf: it takes a while.  like 10 or 15 seconds maybe.  is it freezing longer than that?12:59
MrPocketsdo they make Objectdock for Linux?12:59
mweglobe: then you need to echo exec startkde ~/.xinitrc12:59
Eleafdooglus, I've waited for an hour...12:59
mweglobe: then you would use startx to run it12:59
dooglusEleaf: that should be long enough (!)12:59
globemwe: I saw that posted a minute ago.12:59
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globeOkay12:59
mweglobe: well I made a typo12:59
Eleafdooglus, lol.. yea..  I guess I have to reinstall after 6 months of work getting it just right!! x (01:00
mweglobe: it's echo exec startkde >~/.xinitrc01:00
Eleafnow it wont boot after a dist upgrade dooglus because it's missing modules or something.  I have access to the hard drive.  I just don't know what to do..01:00
johnes123Kr0ntab, no output, must be a port thing...01:00
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Kr0ntabyup01:00
johnes123thx for your help01:00
Mapionetkai have a folder called test. test has 775, is owned by root and gentest, josh is a part of gentest but cant do anything to the dir test. any ideas?01:00
johnes123i appreciaite it01:00
Kr0ntabwell at least you have an answer.01:00
Kr0ntabno prob01:00
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globemwe: thanks for you help--its downloading kde now01:01
Eleafdooglus, what should I do?01:01
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PapagenoWhat package should I get to be able to play wmv files in xfmedia?01:02
jamieubuntu normally seams to have root disabled. I really perfer to have a normal root user I can sign into when I want to, rather than doing sudo. What should I do to enable this01:02
djtripgot a quick ? someone good wit the gaming01:02
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mweMapionetka: does "groups" confirm that josh is member of gentest?01:02
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dooglusEleaf: I'm not sure.  I guess reinstalling the kernel might fix it.01:02
mweglobe: np01:02
dooglusEleaf: can you boot into 'rescue mode' or whatever it's called?01:02
djtripi got neverwinter night it cause my moniter to say invalid mode01:02
Mapionetkamwe yes01:02
mweglobe: wait you want kde-3.5?01:02
dooglusEleaf: it's an option on the grub boot screen01:02
Eleafdooglus, I can boot into the livecd01:02
damsunnoob= how do i mount / format IDE in ubuntu please?01:03
Eleafdooglus, the ppc version doesn't use grub and doesn't have a recovery kernel.  But I can use the livecd and can make changes from there01:03
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mweMapionetka: an josh can't touch foobar in there to create that file?01:03
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dooglusEleaf: I guess from the livecd you can "chroot" into your real root partition, and from there run "apt-get" to install stuff?01:03
Eleafdooglus, yes01:04
damsunhow do you mount hdc please?01:04
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dooglusEleaf: I would try reinstalling the kernel and modules - but I'd also get a 2nd opinion.  I've never had this problem, and don't want you to lose your stuff on my account.01:04
Eleafdooglus, I found a problem though.  when I'm not chrooted, I can use apt fine.  the network works.  Whenever I chroot into my harddrive.  It doens't recognize my network!!  and I can't use apt because it doesn't think there is internet!01:04
Mapionetkamwn, vim test.txt with 1 line of text and a wq recieved a E212: cant open file for writing01:04
mwedamsun: sudo mkdir /mnt/hdc && sudo mount /dev/hdc /mnt/hdc01:04
mweMapionetka: what does ls -l test.txt say?01:05
dooglusEleaf: I'm not sure why that would be, but you can always download the .deb files manually from http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and use them after chroot'ing01:05
dooglusEleaf: with "dpkg"01:05
rcmivif I install ubuntu onto a second HD, will grub see it and be able to boot it?01:05
Eleafdooglus, your right!01:05
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Eleafdooglus, so should I just use firefox and get them?01:05
dooglusEleaf: my right?01:06
Eleafdooglus, alright yea.  What packages should I get?  I'm in the livecd01:06
damsunneed to mount or format hdc where do i start? :(01:06
mweglobe:01:06
dooglusEleaf: yes.  http://packages.ubuntu.com/ has some search forms to help you find the .deb files you need.01:06
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Eleafok01:06
dooglusEleaf: which version of ubuntu?01:06
usr13any tricks to getting realplay to work in ubuntu?01:06
Mapionetkamwe, the test file was never created, do you want me to sudo and do it?01:06
Eleafdooglus, uhh...  I guess breeezy01:06
Sionideanyone recommend any good webcam software for ubuntu??01:06
Eleafdooglus, so I need a new kernel... what else?01:06
mweMapionetka: no01:07
globemwe: I dont know...do I?01:07
mweglobe: heh01:07
alekandrquick question guys: if i install a bnc server locally, can i use an external vhost ive been offered?01:07
globemwe: I would assume that I want the latest01:07
mweglobe: I use it. it's a little more sleek01:07
damsunyes and no01:07
radiodogSionide: any you can find... ffmpeg'll work, but there are only a couple decent ones... just frontends for video4linux01:07
mweMapionetka: what happens if you touch foobar as josh in that dir?01:07
globemwe: okay....01:07
dooglusEleaf: which kernel do you use?  linux-powerpc?  linux-powerpc-smp?  linux-powerpc64-smp?01:08
mweglobe: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main01:08
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Mapionetkathe dir is empty atm, but i cant write to it as josh01:08
jamieCodenameKT, I appreciate it. Reiser on all partitions and no /boot did it01:08
mweglobe: add that to the end of /etc/apt/sources.list to get 3.501:08
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stevr1itno, i cannot find any ingormation about video acellerator ati 9000 video card for acer laptop01:08
Sionideradiodog, my webcam is pretty generic.. hopefully it'll be ok01:08
mweglobe: after sudo apt-get update of course01:08
OldSpiceAPhmmm no rm -r * in any files01:08
OldSpiceAPso that theory goes kaput :(01:08
dooglusOldSpiceAP: no files01:08
timfrostMapionetka, what are the permissions for the directory?01:08
OldSpiceAPgrepped for it for a long time finally finished01:08
Eleafdooglus, linux-powerpc01:09
dooglusOldSpiceAP: I imagine the "rm -r" would have deleted the file containing the "rm -r"01:09
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julio99hi01:09
Mapionetkatimfrost 77501:09
TCTCHaye, how many ppl uses Linux?01:09
julio99who can send-me the CEDEGA 5.0.3?01:09
dooglusEleaf: look here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/linux-powerpc and trace down the dependancies01:09
globemwe: so, after my dl of kde finishes I need to add deb http://.... breezy main to the end of mp /etc/apt/sources.list and then apt-get again?01:09
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dooglusEleaf: (the red dots!)01:09
Eleafk01:09
dooglusTCTCH: 3101:09
jamieubuntu normally seams to have root disabled. I really perfer to have a normal root user I can sign into when I want to, rather than doing sudo. What should I do to enable this01:09
julio99Hi xD Who can send-me cedega 5.0.3?01:09
mweMapionetka: groups confirms josh is in gentest and ls -ld test confirms root:gentest and 775?01:10
TCTCHdooglus: 31 people?....hmm...not mutch :)01:10
dooglusjamie: "sudo passwd"01:10
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mweMapionetka: if so and josh cant write in there it's badly broken01:10
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Amaranthjulio99: Please don't talk about illegal activities here.01:10
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Mapionetkamwe that is the case01:10
mweglobe: no stop it now01:10
dooglusTCTCH: it's just an estimate01:10
jamiedooglus, an that will enable me to set a root password? and then I can so su then password like I am used to?01:10
mweglobe: then add that and sudo apt-get update01:10
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julio99=/ ok01:10
mweglobe: then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:11
globeI see01:11
dooglusjamie: yes.  it's not recommended, but hey it's your box, fill your boots :)01:11
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makkkcan someone help me write to a USB drive? it used to work, but suddenly began to claim it was read-only01:11
TCTCHdooglus: hmmm....21 million people uses linux....is there some proof? website or something?01:11
globemwe: will that make it so that I dont have access to gnome?01:11
djtripcan any one help bout a game causin invalid mode on my moniter01:11
TCTCH3101:11
mwejamie: just use sudo -i to get a root prompt if you need one01:11
dooglusjamie: although "sudo -s" and "sudo -i" will give you root shells without setting a root password01:12
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jamiemwe, ahhhh that will be all I need01:12
Eleafdooglus, the files are so small..  The kernel shouldn't be 25 k should it??? o.O01:12
mweglobe: you have to put somthing else into .xinitrc to use gnome I forgot what01:12
jamieI just dont want to do sudo before every apt command. lol01:12
dooglusTCTCH: it's very hard to know, what with it being free and not reporting usage stats anywhere01:12
dooglusEleaf: no.01:12
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Mapionetkamwe, im logged in as josh atm, so if i use groups josh i get josh and gentest, but if i just use groups i get the long list of all the various half admin groups aswell01:13
mwejamie: yeah that's annoying if you have to do a lot of work as root01:13
Mapionetkabut no gentest01:13
Eleafdooglus, how do I download them??? lol..  I'm just clicking the link to download.. and they are only a few K .deb packages01:13
Eleafo.o01:13
TCTCHdooglus: yeah...I see...but all I want to know is: If are more Linux usere out there as Mac users01:13
woodgraindoes anyone here have a shell script for comparing 2 md5sums for two files?01:13
jamiemwe, yup it is01:13
globemwe.  okay.  I am looking at a screenshot of kde and it looks like OSX.  Is that what it is like naturally or after some config.?01:13
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mweMapionetka: just groups includes the gentest group?01:13
makkkdoes someone know how my USB drive could have suddenly become read-only?01:13
Mapionetkano :/01:13
MiklHi! I'm trying to begin new life with ubuntu 5.10 :-) now I have problem with free space. i have partition of 9.3 GB and df -h shows that it have only 350 MB of free space. But all files in dirs is smaller then 4GB. So I wonder were space could be? Can anyone give me idea?01:13
mweMapionetka: and what about "id"01:13
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dooglusEleaf: you have to chase down all the red dots, recursively.  the ones at the top are merely 'metapackages', and are empty01:14
Mapionetkano gentest with id either01:14
Mapionetkayet groups josh brings it up01:14
Mapionetka:/01:14
mweglobe: I have done some heavy theming I think the default was ugly. that's what I love about kde. you can customize every single bit of it01:14
dooglusEleaf: for example, linux-image-powerpc (22k) depends on linux-image-2.6.12-10-powerpc (17582.2k)01:14
Eleafok01:15
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timfrostMapionetka, log out, then back in again.  The existing session doen't pick up new groups autopmitically.01:15
Eleafdooglus, do I need to download those dependencies then? since it's a metapackage...?01:15
mweMapionetka: log out and back in and it will be fixed01:15
dooglusEleaf: you need to, yes.01:15
mweMapionetka: you need to do that for group changes to take effect01:15
woodgrainhow do I compute MD5SUM for files excluding the filename?01:15
djtripgee all u had to do was say no peace01:15
dooglusEleaf: well, I'm not sure, but maybe...  they're only tiny anyway, so why not.01:15
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Mapionetkatimfrost, ill have a go at it. im in ssh so im constantly in and out and with screen etc :)01:15
slashx1896hey all!01:15
sethkwoodgrain, md5sum doesn't use the filename.  You would have to write a program to computer the sum and include the filename01:16
dooglusEleaf: it will help keep your dependancies in order01:16
mweMapionetka: did you get that?01:16
mweMapionetka: log out and back in01:16
sethks/computer/compute/01:16
slashx1896My scroll thing on my mouse just stopped working :o :(01:16
globemwe: nice...I like customization01:16
doogluswoodgrain: renaming a file doesn't change its md5sum01:16
woodgrainsethk, how come when I copy file1.ext to file2.ext echo -n file | md5sum gives different sums?01:16
Mapionetkayay! we have liftoff!01:17
sethkwoodgrain, I just tried it here, I get exactly the same value01:17
Mapionetkai think01:17
mweglobe: yeah01:17
doogluswoodgrain: because "echo -n file" passes the 4 characters in the word "file" into md5sum!  :)01:17
Mapionetkaexpect another cry for help when the next thing breaks :P01:17
sethkwoodgrain, that would be completely useless.  the point of md5sum is to do things like validate downloads01:17
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Mapionetkals01:17
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sethkwoodgrain, so it would appear that you have some other problem.01:17
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doogluswoodgrain: you're looking for "cat file | md5sum".  or better "md5sum < file"01:17
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woodgrainsethk, I know, that's why I'm confused ... did it again, but still diff results.01:17
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sethkwoodgrain, someone just noticed that your command is wrong01:17
woodgraindooglus, what's cat01:17
sethkwoodgrain, you just do:  md5sum filename01:18
slashx1896Anyone;... my scroll key doesnt scroll anymore.. it just stopped working01:18
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doogluswoodgrain: it's what you think 'echo' is01:18
sethkwoodgrain, cat is what you apparently think echo is01:18
doogluswoodgrain: it's like "type" in DOS01:18
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doogluswoodgrain: it opens the file and pipes its contents to stdout01:18
sethkdooglus, well, ultimately that's going to confuse him ... :)01:18
St0n3-C0lI am shocked....KDE apps working so smoothly like never before on GNOME!01:18
dooglussethk: what's cat?01:18
munkybasskde rlz :P01:18
woodgrainoh, so if I use echo, it's using the filenames as though they're text?01:18
damsunubuntu is debian?01:18
gnomefreakecho = echos what you type :)01:18
sethkdooglus, cat is different than type.  it's primary use is what the name implies, concatenation01:18
St0n3-C0lcredit goes to GNOME Or KDE ?01:18
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gnomefreakdamnhil, based yes01:18
St0n3-C0ldamsun: debian-based distro01:18
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AmaranthSt0n3-C0l: That's not too unbelieveable, it's just a matter of having the right libraries installed.01:19
damsunthanks St0n3-c0l01:19
gnomefreakdamn tab :(01:19
St0n3-C0lAmaranth: Before on Hoary KDE apps used to run very slowly and took alot time to load on GNOME01:19
damsunso i can use debian commands to format and mount?01:19
slashx1896gah.. can anyone help me?? like tell me where i can go to see if it got disabled01:19
sethkgnomefreak, no, damnhil, not damntab  :)01:19
doogluswoodgrain: yes.01:19
woodgrainsethk, got it working.01:19
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feistelhi01:20
gnomefreaklol01:20
woodgraindooglus,  you mean it was md5summing the filenames? with echo -n filename | md5sum?01:20
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mwedamsun: yeah. those are standard linux utils01:20
doogluswoodgrain: run "echo file" on its own.  whatever it puts on the screen is what md5sum sees when you "echo file | md5sum"01:20
Goldfischdamsun: What do you mean debian? formatting and mounting isn't really distribution specific.01:20
feistelI need help01:20
AmaranthSt0n3-C0l: That's just because C++ apps and libs take forever to find dependency libs and load them.01:20
feistelwith Ubuntu Linux01:20
doogluswoodgrain: then try "cat ~/.bashrc"01:20
AmaranthSt0n3-C0l: prelinking helps a lot with C++01:20
feistelexist a GRAPHIC INSTALLER for Ubuntu?01:20
mwe!tell feistel about helpme01:20
St0n3-C0lhmm..01:20
doogluswoodgrain: it will show you the *contents* of the file, instead of its *name*01:20
damsunhmm. k thanks. i best learn linux full stop then. laters01:20
damsunexit01:20
doogluswoodgrain: of course, usually people just run "md5sum file"01:20
damsunand irc commands.. blush01:20
mika0800ok, just formatted my linux partition and now running the ubuntu Hoary 5.04 installer. I can sidestep (Ctrl-Alt-F2) to open a command console. Tried modprobe 3c509 but it only gives me an error msg: "FATAL: Module 3c509 not found".... can I download that module somewhere or direct the loader to the proper directory on the installation CD if it actually IS ther ?01:20
Amaranthfeistel: Nope, but the one that's there is wouldn't be any easier if it was.01:20
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slashx1896gr... =\01:21
St0n3-C0land Since I've opened Kopete...ur Menu Editor not starting ehe :>01:21
woodgraindooglus, cat is angry with large files -- this is what I should expect, right?01:21
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GoldfischBTW, why is md5 still out there and cooking? I thought SHA-1 is where everything was heading, due to faults with md5.01:21
AmaranthSt0n3-C0l: lmao, run it from a terminal01:21
sethkwoodgrain, no.  although in this context cat is totally unnecessary01:21
doogluswoodgrain: no, cat is fine with large files.  the problem is that your terminal doesn't like large binary files being cat'ed to it...01:21
sethkGoldfisch, the supposed fault with md5 is bogus01:21
AmaranthGoldfisch: theoretical faults in md501:21
feistelAmaranth, is a way of transform the text-based installation program to a graphic-based installation program?01:21
woodgraindooglus, so it's just beeping cuz it's not loading fast enough.01:21
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St0n3-C0lAmaranth: can I paste u the reply in private or pastebin?01:22
GoldfischWell, tell that to the people producing gpg/pgp and why they are using SHA-1 for digital signatures.01:22
sethkwoodgrain, no, it's beeping because you are sending binary 7 to it01:22
doogluswoodgrain: no, it's beeping because there's all kinds of non-printable stuff in it.  that's why I suggested "cat ~/.bashrc" - it's a text file.01:22
woodgraindooglus, SHUTE!  I c-c'd out of that cat of a 17MB file and now my bash terminal is all screwed up.01:22
AmaranthSt0n3-C0l: pastebin01:22
sethkwoodgrain, the 7 character rings the terminal bell01:22
mweafaik it is theretically possible to create a different file with the same md5sum01:22
doogluswoodgrain: type "reset" in the bash terminal01:22
AmaranthGoldfisch: For important security things sha-XXX is better than md501:22
woodgraindooglus, cat wll only deal with ascii?01:22
St0n3-C0lAlright01:22
doogluswoodgrain: if return doesn't work, try control-j01:22
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AmaranthGoldfisch: For regular things, it's not that important.01:23
doogluswoodgrain: no, cat deals fine with any file.  but your terminal likes ascii01:23
Amaranthfeistel: No, why do you need to?01:23
sethkAmaranth, I don't think there is any situation where sha is better than md501:23
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feistelAmaranth, for a new desktop distribution based on Kubuntu01:23
woodgraindooglus,  so I could still cat that file into another command, and if the results aren't put in terminal, the termial won't freak/get broken?01:23
Amaranthfeistel: the CLI installer is not that big of a deal01:23
mika0800does someone even know: Are there plain files on the Hoary 5.04 installation CD or are the files compressed on the CD ?01:23
narles_jason, i can't find VC1_reference_decoder_release6.zip for compiling libvc1....01:23
dooglusdoesn't ubuntu use md5 for ensuring packages haven't been tampered with?01:24
Amaranthfeistel: If you didn't know the answer to these questions you don't know enough to make a distrobution.01:24
dooglusit's that 'important'?01:24
mwedooglus: yeah01:24
_jasonnarles, You won't be able to find the file to get wmv support, but the comments point you to: http://multimedia.cx/eggs/?p=129 and you can get it there.01:24
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mwedooglus: I think so01:24
sethkdooglus, yes, it does use md5, and there is no real problem with md501:24
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nterI used cat to combine movies so I think you can use it with more than  ASCII01:24
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Amaranthdooglus: Make me a file the exact same size as the package I choose that has the same md5sum but does malicious things.01:24
dooglussethk: but it's relatively easy to collide md5sums isn't it?01:24
mwedooglus: but I think at least in theory it's possible to create a different file with the same md5sum01:25
dooglusAmaranth: that's the point - it's doable01:25
woodgrainnter, explain how to combine files with cat!01:25
sethkdooglus, no.  that's bogus.  what has been done is to double the key length and create a collision01:25
Amaranthdooglus: It's not.01:25
sethkdooglus, if the key length is known, md5 has no collision issues01:25
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dooglussethk: key length == file size?01:25
sethkmwe, only by expanding the key length01:25
sethkdooglus, no, the key length is something that you choose whenever doing a hash, such as md5.01:25
Amaranthsethk: The attacker has to be able to choose the original input text too.01:25
sethkdooglus, 1024 bits, for example01:25
mwesethk: are you sure?01:25
sethkmwe, positive01:26
St0n3-C0lAmaranth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/682201:26
mwesethk: all right01:26
sethkAmaranth, that's another reason, then,01:26
narles_jason, i have no idea what to do.. i'd rather just skip getting wmv support.. but when i tried to ./configure for compiling VLC, it won't let me because of the missing libvc1.. how can i get around this?01:26
ntercat fie1 file2 filen >new_file01:26
sethkthe point is that the md5 "problem" is entirely academic and doesn't exist in the real world.01:26
sethknter, correct, that's the canonical use of cat01:26
sethknter, hence the name, which means concatenate01:26
Amaranthsethk, dooglus: It's still impossible for an attacker to make a file with the same size and md5sum as a random file that actually _does_ something.01:26
_jasonnarles, that site gives you a link to: http://www.multimedia.cx/VC1_reference_decoder_release6.zip01:27
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amonkeyhow can i mount a vfat partition case insensitivly?01:27
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sethkAmaranth, I agree, that's why I said there is no real problem.01:27
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kylevanhi, could someone tell me what the heck the root password is, since I didn't set it up during setup?01:27
_jasonubotu, tell kylevan about root01:27
dooglussethk: md5 has a constant key length then.01:27
AmaranthSt0n3-C0l: stop using dapper :P01:27
sethkamonkey, the case significance of a vfat mount is a function of the character set01:27
sethkdooglus, no, it does not.01:27
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mwekylevan: root doesn't have a passwd in ubuntu by default01:27
AmaranthSt0n3-C0l: freetype likes to change ABI/API without a new major version number01:27
mwekylevan: use sudo to do root stuff01:28
BxL!tell bxl aboit sudo01:28
narlesthanks01:28
mwekylevan: and sudo -i if you need a root prompt01:28
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sethkdooglus, although there are common sizes.  md5 itself doesn't confine the size.  the md5sum utility does have  _default_ key size if you don't override01:28
St0n3-C0lAmaranth: LOL am back on breezy...just set the repos and updated xchat and gaim and now back on breezy :-D01:28
kylevanmwe, I did, but it chmod didn't seem to work01:28
mwekylevan: did what, sorry?01:28
AmaranthSt0n3-C0l: You need the freetype, cairo, glib, and pango from dapper.01:28
amonkeysethk, ok, is there a way i can force the right character set?01:28
dooglussethk: what's the flag to md5sum to change the key size?01:28
kylevanmwe, well, I'm having issues with the hotplugging service on my ASUS laptop01:28
sethkkylevan, it isn't quite true about root.  If you do the default install, there is no root password.  If you do any of the other installs, such as the expert install, the install program will ask you for, and set, the root password01:28
AmaranthSt0n3-C0l:  If you get one you have to get them all.01:29
Goldfischsethk: Do you mean "digest" size?01:29
narles_jason if i have VC1_reference_decoder_release6.zip on my desktop.. how can i move it to ~/videolan?01:29
sorush20guys i'm unable to mount my floppy,, is there a way that mounting and unmounting could become automatic in ubuntu just like windows?01:29
St0n3-C0lAmaranth: alright :)01:29
mwekylevan: yes? I thought you were talking about root permission01:29
sethkamonkey, man mount wiill show you the argument01:29
sethkGoldfisch, digest, hash, key, the terms all mean the same thing01:29
_jasonnarles, mv ~/Desktop/VC1_reference_decoder_release6.zip ~/videolan01:29
kylevanno... I'm just trying to keep hotplugging from running until I can fix it.  I'm using some documentation off of linux-on-laptops.org or whatever01:29
St0n3-C0lthanks01:30
St0n3-C0lbrb01:30
Ophiocusdoes anyone remember offhand what the io  variable name for a utf-8 mount point for fstab?01:30
_jasonubotu, tell narles about cli01:30
Goldfischsethk: Key is a unique value generated for a user. I have a public key used to sign messages. That is not the same as the hash/digests I generate with the public key.01:30
tamalehey, what's the easiest way to get raid5 up and running on my ubuntu install?   I have 2.6.12 kernel, fresh breezy-badger install, all 8 of my drives show up under disk manager01:30
sorush20I'm using kubuntu and when I click on the floppy icon I get the message that could not determine the filesystem any help pleaes?01:30
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jessica_how can i upgrade my kubuntu dsitro to kde 3.5?01:30
jessica_please somebody tell me the terminal command01:31
Amaranthtamale: software raid?01:31
sethkGoldfisch, no, that's not true.  the term key has many uses.  In cryptography a key most typically refers to the thing you need to decrypt or encrypt something, but it is perfectly correct to use key in a variety of other ways01:31
dooglussethk: if you mean hash, then md5sum generates a 128 bit hash01:31
mwekylevan: to disable it temporarely, sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/hotplug. then sudo chmod +x it when you want it to run again01:31
GoldfischIf you don't download and apt-key an apt source's public key, you can't validate their md5 sums and authenticate their packages.01:31
dooglussethk: I don't think you can change that.01:31
Amaranthtamale: i think you needed to do that in the install, by using LVMS01:31
kylevanmwe, that's what I did, but it didn't work01:31
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tamaleAmaranth:  Correct, I want software raid5 with samba01:31
sorush20jessica_: are you a girls?01:31
mwekylevan: really?01:31
kylevanyeah01:31
jessica_hmmmmm yes01:31
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sethkdooglus, I might have patched mine to take a key length.01:31
AmaranthGoldfisch: Wrong. If you don't have the key you can't verify the pgp signature.01:31
jessica_i am a girl who loves linux01:31
AmaranthGoldfisch: The md5sum is seperate.01:31
kylevanwhich is why I came in here01:31
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OldSpiceAPexit01:32
_jasonjessica_, you may want to try in #kubuntu as well01:32
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sorush20jessica_: wow I think most guys here would love you01:32
tamaleAmaranth:  I couldn't seem to get it to accept my changes duiring the install01:32
] m[evilbis there a way to install wine while being offline?01:32
Amaranthsorush20: Please don't do that.01:32
jessica_hahaha and why is that?01:32
mwekylevan: well then sudo update-rc.d -f remove hotplug but note the number it runs as first so you can put it back01:32
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jessica_because girls and linux are hard t ocome by?01:32
jessica_lol01:32
tamaleAmaranth:  Do I really need to install all over again?01:32
GoldfischI thought their mechanism was to digitally sign the md5sums.01:32
dooglussethk: if you're generating hashes which aren't 128 bits long, you're not generating md5 hashes01:32
kylevanok... thanks for the help01:32
Hendikins|WorkQuestion. Does *anyone* use S/MIME?01:32
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sethkdooglus, nonsense.  look at the md5 spec.01:33
Amaranth] m[evilb: only if you downloaded the package and it's dependencies already01:33
Amaranthtamale: dunno, i've never done it01:33
Amaranthtamale: you might be able to turn the other 7 drives into a raid array01:33
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ajmitchsethk, dooglus: #ubuntu-offtopic, perhaps01:33
narles_jason, i'm having trouble.. i get this error.. cp: `libvc1-1.0/src/.': specified destination directory does not exist01:33
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Amaranthtamale: but to get that first one in there too you need to reinstall01:33
kylevanmwe, number as in runlevel?01:33
ajmitchhey jblack :)01:33
dooglussethk: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1321.txt?number=1321 ?  "This document describes the MD5 message-digest algorithm. The algorithm takes as input a message of arbitrary length and produces as output a 128-bit "fingerprint" or "message digest" of the input."01:33
jblackajmitch: Hey buddy!01:33
] m[evilbAmaranth i downloaded the .deb file01:33
narles_jason, when trying to use this command $ cp VC1_reference_decoder_release6/decoder/*.[ch]  libvc1-1.0/src/.01:33
mwekylevan: runlevels and the S and K numbers01:33
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Amaranth] m[evilb: sudo dpkg -i <name of file>.deb01:34
jblackajmitch: I've got a bit of a ppp problem in dapper, interested in hearing about it?01:34
sethkdooglus, you have to look at the original articles about md5.  Not the spec for an instance of md5 use.01:34
kylevanthanks again01:34
ajmitchjblack: I can hear, but I haven't used a modem for years01:34
sethkdooglus, in fact you'll find a discussion of the lengths, and when different lengths are appropriate01:34
jblackOk, well, ppp doesn't go. No logging or anything.01:34
GoldfischSorry I kicked off all this md5 chit chat. Later....01:34
mwekylevan: find /etc/rc*.d -name "*hotplug"01:34
Amaranthsethk, dooglus: #ubuntu-offtopic please01:34
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dooglussethk: you're telling me there's more than one MD5 algorithm?01:35
jblackI can dial out using mgetty without any problems, but pppd doesn't work, and doesn't log anything.01:35
_jasonnarles,  what does ls return01:35
] m[evilbAmaranth anything else i need 2 know, i'm on windows now, dont want to reboot over and over again :)01:35
kameroni need a font.. subfont.ttf. i installed the msttcorefonts package, but i still don't have it.01:35
Amaranth] m[evilb: not really01:35
ajmitchjblack: nothing at all in syslog?01:35
mwekyncani: here it's just /etc/rcS.d/S40hotplug01:35
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Amaranthbbl01:35
sethkdooglus, no, I'm telling you that the rfp you cited is not the definition of the md5 algorithm01:35
narles_jason, commands.odt  DEBIAN  Desktop  drivers  music  videolan01:35
jblackajmitch: Not a thing at all, which confuses me, as debug is on01:35
ajmitchsethk: you've been asked twice :P01:35
sorush20jessica_: did you get the message?01:35
ajmitchjblack: that was my next question..01:35
dooglussethk: where is the definition?01:35
_jasonnarles, cd videolan and try again01:35
sorush20jessica_: did you send the message I sent you?01:36
narles_jason, i'm already in videolan01:36
sethkdooglus, sorry, I've been silenced, for some reason.01:36
jblackI don't know if its a ppp problem or a kernel problem.01:36
sorush20anyother girls in here?01:36
sethkdooglus, don't want to be bounced.01:36
_jasonnarles, seems like you are in ~ from the output of ls01:36
ajmitchjblack: hm, the ppp package hasn't been touched for about 4 weeks in dapper01:36
jblackI searched malone for ppp bugs, and it looks rather empty there.01:36
ajmitchjblack: search bugzilla01:36
ajmitchjblack: the official move still hasn't been done01:36
jblackajmitch: Yeah. It worked for me 5 days before christmas, then not on the day before christmas.01:36
jblackahh01:37
narles_jason, i opened up a new terminal for ls01:37
jblackbwhere is bugzilla?01:37
ajmitchjblack: bugzilla.ubuntu.com01:37
ajmitchlast ppp upload was dec 1501:37
jblackThats within the window.01:37
_jasonnarles, what does ls return for the other terminal then01:37
jblackI could have easily gone ten days without updating, updated the day before I left, then bam01:38
ajmitchjblack: not running anything special, it's just a boring old modem?01:38
narles_jason, faad2-20040923    libvc1-1.0.tar.gz01:39
narlesfaad2-20040923.tar.bz2   VC1_reference_decoder_release601:39
narles  ffmpeg      VC1_reference_decoder_release6.zip01:39
narleslibdvdcss-1.2.8      vlc-trunk01:39
narleslibdvdcss-1.2.8.tar.bz201:39
mwenarles: don't paste here01:39
narlessorry01:39
mwenarles: you'll get banned01:39
_jasonnarles, next time pastebin for large pastes01:39
jblackHmm. http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20920 doesn't look quite right, but somehow feels very close01:39
_jasonnarles, looks like you forgot the  'tar -zxvf libvc1-1.0.tar.gz' command.  First line of 'Compile libvc1' section01:40
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ajmitchjblack: how are you online right now? breezy or another box?01:40
jblackI'm online via 802.11G on my home network.01:40
mika0800Run4Fun: Please Don't talk to Jessica ....01:41
jblackI additionally have a verizon wireless dsl card that works through ppp, that I use when not in the house.01:41
narles_jason, thanks.. good call01:41
jblackajmitch: So same computer, but with 802.11G.01:42
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jblackajmitch: Also in a probably unrelated note from about the same time, my built in dvdrw stopped working.01:42
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iKernelI just can't seem to mount /dev/hda. I keep on getting this error: mount: /dev/hda already mounted or /mnt/hda busy. What I have done: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/682301:43
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ajmitchjblack: right, and running 'pppd call <provider> debug' does what?01:43
jblackroot@pluto:/dev # pppd call provider debug01:43
jblackroot@pluto:/dev #01:43
mika0800ok, back to business... modprobe cannot find the "3c509" or "3c509.ko" on the installation CD (Ubuntu Hoary 5.04) ... I have the .iso on another Linux machine's HD, so I mounted it R/O with the loopback device. It is full of .deb -files. Maybe one of those includes 3c509 kernel module, but compressed. How do I extract a compressed module from a .deb and how to know which .deb has it inside ?01:43
ajmitchinstantly back the the commandline?01:43
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jblackYup01:44
Papooseanyone know how to install SWAT for Samba?01:44
ajmitchhow odd01:44
jblackps aux | grep ppp shows: root     17432  0.0  0.1   2684   860 ttyUSB0  Ss+  19:43   0:00 pppd call provider debug01:44
ajmitchhm01:44
amonkeywhat would be the smart way to change a bunch of folder's names to lower case?01:44
ajmitchso it's still going in the background, and it's usb serial, too?01:44
jblackIf I add nodetaqch, it runs01:44
jblackWhoah.01:44
jblackThat worked.01:44
ajmitchinteresting01:44
_jasonamonkey, the rename command, I think man rename actually tells you how01:45
jblackOk. so if I add nodetach on the command line, it runs.01:45
jblackLet me try that in the config for provider01:45
mwemika0800: it should be included in the linux-image package which is surely installed01:45
JarG0ncan anyone give me direction on how to resolve video issues after installing the 64bit version of Ubuntu.  My screen goes blank after loading the OS, by displaying a solid (nonblinking) cursor at the top left hand of the screen.  I'm using an Nvidia card, but I can't access the Synaptic Package Manager to do anything according to this url: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%2901:45
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mika0800I also tried the cmd "apt-cache search 3c509" on my other linux box (running Debian sarge/2.4.27 kernel). It found only this: "nictools-nopci - Diagnostic tools for many non-PCI ethernet cards"01:46
jblackOk.01:46
iKernelCan anybody help?01:46
Pr1muZhi anyone use a linksys router on ubuntu and mind helping me out?01:46
mwemika0800: it's not in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net ?01:46
jblackajmitch: Ok, adding nodetach to peers/provider makes things work, but it of course keeps the pty01:46
mwemika0800: it should be included in the linux-image package which is surely installed like I said01:46
butcherbirdJarG0n: alt-ctrl-f2 then login then from console sudo apt-get install filename for each package01:46
sethkPr1muZ, I use a couple of linksys routers, but there are many of them.  Not likely we are using exactly the same one.01:46
JarG0nthanks!01:47
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sethkPr1muZ, but there isn't much different between linksys and any other router01:47
Pr1muZwell01:47
sethkPr1muZ, so just ask your question01:47
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Pr1muZi dont know anything about routers01:47
jblackamitch: if I remove nodetach, ppp does come on.01:47
Pr1muZand im going to have to set one up soon01:47
Pr1muZlol01:47
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jblackajmitch: regardless, syslog doesn't get anything in any case01:47
dooglusiKernel: what if you "sudo mkdir /media/ntfs" and then try mounting it there?01:47
astrayDoes anyone know why the .xinitrc doesn't work in my home directory?01:47
Pr1muZi figure i might as well learn something before i just plug it in and see if it works.01:47
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sethkPr1muZ, in many cases the default settings are fine.01:47
ajmitchjblack: so it's just logging broken?01:47
dooglusastray: gnome doesn't use it.  it uses .gnomerc01:47
sethkPr1muZ, really a lot depends on the requirements of the service to which you are connecting01:47
mika0800mwe: possibly. But the problem is, that if I do not manually intervene things, then I will end up in the same situation as in so many other distros using 2.6 -series kernels: The NIC is not found by the installer. It may be manually activated, but then I need to do ALL od the network configuring work by hand, and that is exactlt what I am trying to avoid!01:47
astrayIdon't use gnome01:48
iKerneldooglus: 3rd time lucky maybe? Ok01:48
dooglusiKernel: i didn't realise you'd tried using a different mount point already01:48
jblackajmitch: Thats what I'm seeing, yes. Before now though, I could have _SWORN_ that ppp0 never comes up though.01:48
Pr1muZwell, if i just plug everything in and turn the router on, its highly doubtful that everything would just work right and there, i just dont know where i'd go to set everything up.01:48
iKerneldooglus: I know01:48
JarG0nbutcherbird> wierd, my screen went blank after hitting alt-ctrl-f2, but I see a blinking cursor.  I'm in some sort of safe mode.01:48
mika0800So, I'd like to force the installer to load the 3c509 module "3c509.ko" so then my NIC would be autoconfigured by the installation program.01:48
dooglusiKernel: you have to specify which partition the ntfs filesystem is on.  /dev/hda1 or some such01:48
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iKerneldooglus: Well, no difference this time either01:48
St0n3-C0lafter getting KDE repos updated...am doing kde for install01:48
dooglusiKernel: "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda" will list the partitions01:49
iKerneldooglus: Of course :) I've mounted an ntfs filesystem before (different linux)01:49
St0n3-C0lbut it says kdesdk not going to be installed01:49
jblackajmitch: So apparently whatever the problem may have been, now its just a case of logging being broken01:49
dooglusiKernel: your pastebin shows you trying to mount /dev/hda01:49
butcherbirdJarG0n: couple ways to fix. do you have a livecd?01:49
St0n3-C0land doesn't install01:49
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mwemika0800: just blacklist the wrong module and put the name of the right one in /etc/modules01:49
JarG0nyeah, the video freezes on that one too01:49
JarG0nsame symptoms01:49
ajmitchjblack: it's an improvement at least - probably still worth a bugreport01:49
mwemika0800: like I already said01:49
jblackajmitch: Aye.01:49
iKerneldooglus: Yep. I've already tried mounting /dev/hda101:49
Pr1muZsethk?01:49
dooglusiKernel: is that the right number?01:50
St0n3-C0lThe following packages have unmet dependencies:01:50
St0n3-C0l  kde: Depends: kdesdk but it is not going to be installed01:50
St0n3-C0lE: Broken packages01:50
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butcherbirdJarG0n: right at grub booting there should be an option for recovery mode does that work?01:50
JarG0nlet me check01:50
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muszekhi01:50
sethkPr1muZ, I'm not sure what you are asking.  Normally you talk to the router by doing http://192.168.0.1  (or 192.168.1.1)01:50
dooglusiKernel: run "mount | grep hda" to see if it's already mounted01:50
mika0800So, I want to install the 3c509 module as early as possible (while running the installation program). And yes, the installer lets me use Ctrl-Alt-F2, I do get a console doing that. That is good news !01:50
butcherbirdJarG0n: if not maybe burn a knoppix cd01:50
iKerneldooglus: I get some errors in dmesg with hda101:50
JarG0nbutcherbird> i think that's the safe mode i'm describing.  I'm in it now.01:50
sethkPr1muZ, by default.  of course you can change it's address, but after a reset to factory defaults, that's where you start01:51
iKerneldooglus: It's not mounted, because I've already tried umount hda01:51
muszekcan anyone tell me how to change a language used in gnome for just one user?  I know how to change it for all new accounts, but that's not what I want01:51
iKerneldooglus: umount /dev/hda rather01:51
Pr1muZwell01:51
Pr1muZok01:51
Pr1muZi have the router right here01:51
Pr1muZif i just plugged everything in01:51
Pr1muZturned it on01:51
Pr1muZwhere would i go from there01:51
mika0800mwe: But I want to do it during running the installation program, as early as possible. I do not want  to do that after installation!01:51
butcherbirdJarG0n: happen to have another linux livecd around?01:51
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iKerneldooglus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/682401:52
JarG0nno, but I can burn a knoppix cd01:52
bloodhow do i mount a file01:52
sethkPr1muZ, configure a machine to an address on the same subnet (say 192.168.1.10), connect that machine to the router with a crossover cable, bring up your web browser, and type in   http://192.168.1.101:52
bloodor a drive01:52
jblackblood: typically, one doesn't.01:52
jblackblood: mount -t auto /dev/device /where/you/want/it01:53
Pr1muZkk01:53
iKernelblood: mount -t filesystem /dev/drive01:53
mika0800And, like I told, I can get a console doing Ctrl-Alt-F2 during install. But if I type modprobe 3c509 from there, I only get an error msg telling it cannot find the module01:53
sethkPr1muZ, some of the more expensive routers also have an option to use a USB or serial connection to configure it.01:53
JarG0ncan I load the NVidia drivers from http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_1.0-8178.html ?01:53
dooglusblood: the "mount" command mounts things01:53
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iKernelblood: What device and what filesystem?01:53
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blooddevise is like media/sad1?01:53
bloodmy windows partiotion01:53
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dooglusblood: the usage is like this: mount [-fnrsvw]  [-t vfstype]  [-o options]  device dir01:53
butcherbirdJarG0n: try burn knoppix cd and boot then mount your ubuntu partiion then chroot to that mountpoint and see if u can install nvida or whatever01:54
dooglusblood: you have to specify the mount point (dir) as well as the device01:54
McJerrygiven the scenario: ubuntu with samba server installed and started..... /media/laptop directory and a laptop running xp with //laptop/laptop-c shared.....how do i mount the xp share to the /media/laptop dir?01:54
JarG0nbutcher> thx01:54
narles_jason, when trying to use the make command for compiling VLc i get this error01:54
iKernelblood: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda /mnt/hda01:54
narles_jason, /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext01:54
blooddo i have to manipulate anyof that then01:54
mika0800Or maybe I just need to boot another PC using, for example, the Knoppix CD... then I can copy the needed module from the Knoppix system to either a floppy or a USB memory stick (if that is supported during the install phase...)01:54
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_jasonnarles, I don't know what that is... have you installed build-essentials?01:55
sethkmika0800, it would have to be identical kernel code for that to work01:55
iKerneldooglus: Not nessercarily. If he's already put his device in fstab or mntab then it'll just mount the mount point he speficified01:55
jamieI am trying to install on a dell 8400 with SATA drives. making / partition reiserfs 40Gb, swap, and also /home reiser fs 120 Gb. I keep getting Base system installer error, the dbootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1) whats wrong.01:55
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sethknarles, that's part of X development01:55
narles_jason, yes01:56
mika0800But how much difference is between, say, 2.6.10 and 2.6.12? If I use Knoppix with 2.6.12 (or 2.6.8) and the Ubuntu system is 2.6.10 (and I do NOT want to change that), can I still use the same 3c509 module?01:56
St0n3-C0lanybody help me :((01:56
dooglusiKernel: you can't specify a device to mount without specifying a mount point.01:56
narlessethk, how do i fix thsi error01:56
sethknarles, install X development packages01:56
iKernelblood: I know.01:56
djs_2_6St0n3-C0l - What's up?01:56
iKernelblood: Read my sentence again01:56
St0n3-C0lThe following packages have unmet dependencies:01:56
iKernelwhoops01:56
St0n3-C0l  kde: Depends: kdesdk but it is not going to be installed01:56
St0n3-C0lE: Broken packages01:56
narlessethk, what do i want to type for apt-get01:56
bloodwhats " /mnt/hda?"01:56
St0n3-C0lWant to install kde 3.5 :'(01:56
iKernelThat was directed at dooglus sorry01:56
mika0800So, that means, that for my idea to work, I need a live CD with exactly 2.6.10 kernel as well ?01:56
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sethknarles, I don't memorize the package names.  use synaptic, it has categories for all that stuff.01:57
bloodmount: mount point /mnt/hda does not exist01:57
dooglusiKernel: you told him to "mount -t filesystem /dev/drive"01:57
dooglusiKernel: /dev/drive was the mount point?  that might be a little confusing01:57
iKerneldooglus: nup01:57
iKernelbrb01:57
mika0800Do any of you have ubuntu Hoary 5.04 installed ?01:57
sethkblood, create a directory for mounting.  you can even create a directory called /mnt/hda, if you are so inclined01:58
sethkblood, you can use any name.01:58
_jasonnarles, try installing xlibs-dev01:58
dooglusblood: /mnt/hda is wherever you want to mount the filesystem.  make it wherever you like01:58
mika0800if so, can you do apt-cache search 3c509 for me ?01:58
dooglusblood: "sudo mkdir -p /mnt/hda" for example01:58
blood.  /backup01:58
bloodis what i was gunna use01:58
bloodbut okay01:59
djs_2_6St0n3-C0l - Do you have your universe and multiverse enabled?01:59
dooglusblood: that's ok too, though people often make a directory for their mount points, to keep them all together.  /mnt or /media is common01:59
mika0800blood: you might do that, but that is misleading, because you cannot mount hda, but you sure can mount, say, hda1, or hda5 or whatever you wnat to mount in your system01:59
narles_jason, poo01:59
St0n3-C0ldjs_2_6: everything enabled :)01:59
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narles_jason, i just installed everything that i got from a search in xext with synaptic02:00
dooglusblood: then "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda" (replace ntfs with the filesystem type, /dev/hda1 with the device and /mnt/hda with the mountpoint)02:00
_jasonnarles, lol I guess that could work too... does it work now?02:00
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edoardohi gals, hi dudes : )02:00
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edoardodo any of you use hal-0.5.x? cause it don't start over here! help! thankyou! : )02:00
djs_2_6St0n3-C0l - when you do your apt-get, try adding -f...  (apt-get -f install kde)02:01
djs_2_6St0n3-C0l - Ok?02:01
St0n3-C0lmeans ignore ? :P02:01
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narles_jason, so far02:01
St0n3-C0lthen it'll not install kdelibs4-dev :P02:01
djs_2_6St0n3-C0l - Means fix dependencies, and install/remove needed packages...02:02
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narlesjason_, i want to use sudo checkinstall after i 'make' correct?02:02
djs_2_6St0n3-C0l - Ok?02:02
mika0800can someone running Ubuntu please do apt-cache search 3c509 for me?02:02
CanadianSnowhuh?02:03
mika0800can someone running Ubuntu please do sudo apt-cache search 3c509 for me? (soory for missing the 'sudo' 1st time)02:03
crimsunnictools-nopci?02:03
CanadianSnowmika0800 is it?02:03
CanadianSnowalright...02:03
crimsunyou don't need sudo to perform apt-cache search.02:03
crimsunwhat are you trying to do?02:03
mika0800crimsun: was that the ONLY package you found ?02:03
crimsunmika0800: yes02:04
PuMpErNiCkLemika0800: Shows nictools-nopci02:04
blood./mnt is /mount right02:04
mika0800oh no! I am trying to locate, what .deb -package has the file "3c509.ko" inside it ?02:04
PuMpErNiCkLemika0800: locate 3c509 shows a kernel module, though02:04
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bloodso ited be like so like "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1"02:05
mika0800Yes, the kernel module is what I want to find02:05
PuMpErNiCkLehm02:05
crimsunlinux-image-foo has the kernel module02:05
JarG0nwhere can I get a comprehensive list of commands and how to use them for Ubunto, including chroot?02:05
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crimsunJarG0n: man chroot02:05
JarG0nthx02:05
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_jasonmika0800, linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 and linux-image-2.6.12-10-686 for me :)02:06
seliniumHi guys, I have got a folder full of files, I would like to concatanate another file onto the end of all these. Is there an easy way of doing this?02:06
butcherbirdblood: example: sudo mount -o umask=0000 /dev/whatever /mnt/whatever02:06
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mika0800PuMpErNiCkLe: "crimsun> linux-image-foo has the kernel module" ... so, that must be where it came from to be extracted. Ok, so how do I extract it manually from this linux-image-foo ??02:07
thick-glassesanyone using an ATI m200 out there?02:07
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_jasonselinium, I think: 'for $i in *; do cat foo >> $i; done' may work02:07
sethkselinium, you can write a shell loop, which is easy.  Is it every file in the directory?02:08
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selinium_jason, I thought something like that might. Thanks for the pointer02:08
seliniumsethk yes02:08
bloodwhere did this umask=0000 come from now02:08
cap14am completely new to linux (yesterday)wanted to load on 2nd hd and loaded on primary by mistake. Windows is gone now, so I'll give linux a try02:08
_jasonselinium, well it might if you get rid of the first $, so  'for i in *; do cat foo >> $i; done'02:08
sethkselinium, for file in *  do  mv $file $file.bak;  cat whatever $file.bak > $file; rm $file.bak; done02:08
sethk_jason, that loses the original contents of the file02:09
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_jasonsethk, good idea on the bcakup but I think he wants >>, not > right?02:09
sethk_jason, no.  having moved $file to $file.bak, $file no longer exists02:09
seliniumCool, thanks for help guys!02:10
gerald-volthow do I make another copy of a file, but have the copied file a different filename?02:10
_jasonsethk, I see what you did, I think both work02:10
sethk_jason, yes, that's true, you can >> to the end of the existing file02:10
cap14I thought linux would run faster on this old machine but it runs about like windows did, am i missing anything02:11
_jasoncp file filewithnewname02:11
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bimberigerald-volt: cp file newfile (in a terminal) or copy&paste the file in Nautilus then rename the copy02:11
_jasongerald-volt, ^02:11
flannelhello everyone02:11
mika0800I found these too debs matching "linux-image":02:11
sethkcap14, probably not.  You can't say that it will run faster, or slower.  It depends entirely on what you are doing.02:12
mika0800./pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.10/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34_i386.deb   AND   ./pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-image-386_2.6.10-7_i386.deb02:12
JarG0nwhat does tty1 mean?  It looks like virtual desktops to me.02:12
dooglusJarG0n: it's a terminal02:12
linlin!quicktime02:12
ubotumethinks quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.02:12
JarG0nah ok02:12
blood/dev/sda3       /               ext2    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       102:12
bloodthat a good thing?02:12
dooglusJarG0n: open a few terminals and type "tty" in each.  they'll each be using a different terminal02:12
mika0800now, how do I extract the 3c509.ko -file from these .deb -files?02:12
flannelcan anyone tell me why ubuntu would hang 2 times dfuring installation at the point where it preparing primary installation repository02:12
sethkJarG0n, tty1 is usually a serial port, as in /dev/tty102:12
JarG0nI have to hit alt-ctrl+2 to get to something I can see.  The first one is blank.  How to I get to Gnome ?02:12
JarG0nok02:13
sethkJarG0n, the name comes from "teletype"02:13
crimsunmika0800: dpkg-deb -x foo.deb .02:13
dooglusmika0800: "ar x <deb file>" then "tar xf" on the contents02:13
mika0800sethk: isn't that ttyS0, ttyS1 etc ?02:13
sethkJarG0n, control-alt-f7, but if it is blank, you'll just see blank02:13
sethkmika0800, there are a series, ttys, ttyS, some others02:13
mika0800thanks, I will try that...02:13
sethkmika0800, tty by itself is traditional unix02:13
astrayAnyone know why .xinitrc doesn't work?02:13
sethkmika0800, typically ttyS0 is a modem, ttys0 is a serial port, but that's just a convention, nothing official.02:14
Eleafdooglus, ?02:14
crimsunastray: because you use ~/.xsession instead02:14
JarG0nsethk> it doesn't seem to do anything.  It freezes.02:14
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bloodsudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 ,<- how does that know where to mount the drive?02:14
sethkJarG0n, what freezes?02:14
crimsunastray: if you're not using startx, then ~/.xinitrc is pretty useless02:14
JarG0nseth> it displays the last terminal screen chosen, but the cursor stops blinking.02:14
Eleafdooglus,02:15
sethkJarG0n, what does, control-alt-f7?02:15
JarG0nctrl+alt+f1 to ctrl+alt+f7 shows the first terminal02:15
Eleafdooglus, I installed the kernel.  what else do I need?02:15
sethkJarG0n, oh, you are in single user (maintenance) mode02:15
JarG0nyes, it acts like it freezes when I choose that02:15
JarG0nyes02:15
jamiewhen I did an expert install, it tells me I have updates that need to be done. However when I click on the update button in gnome, it makes a click sound and does nothing. What could be wrong?02:15
sethkJarG0n, that's what you are supposed to see in that mode02:15
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JarG0nhow do I get to gnome?  I've only seen it on the Live CD.02:16
theconartistwhat do you mean?02:16
theconartistit is on the default install02:16
jamieJarG0n, did you use ubuntu or kubuntu, it should load automatically in ubuntu02:16
sethkJarG0n, from maintenance mode you can do init 5.  but the question is, why are you in maintenance mode in the first place?02:16
JarG0nubuntu02:16
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sethkJarG0n, when it puts you in maintenance mode, something went wrong during boot02:17
freakwhats the terminal syntax to execute a python script?02:17
JarG0nI think I chose that option last time I rebooted02:17
JarG0nright02:17
jamieJarG0n, what is loading KDE?02:17
theconartistfreak, you use python02:17
JarG0nsays must be superuser02:17
bimberifreak: python blah.py02:17
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freakthanks02:18
sethkJarG0n, yes, to go into maintenance mode, you need to be root.02:18
Eleafdooglus,02:18
sethkJarG0n, but you shouldn't need to go into maintenance mode02:18
JarG0njamie> I'm sorry, I don't know what KDE is.  I though I was trying to get into Gnome.02:18
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JarG0nlet me restart again02:18
sethkJarG0n, yes, you are booting, and gnome is the default destination02:18
jamieJarG0n, what are you in? terminal? because Gnome is standard02:18
JarG0nyes02:19
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jamietype gdm02:19
JarG0nwhat's that stand for?02:19
jamieJarG0n, type gdm does it work?02:19
JarG0nthx02:19
narles_jason, success... finally got sound with VLC02:19
djs_2_6JarG0n - Gnome Desktop Manager...02:19
JarG0n"Only root wants to run gdm"02:19
JarG0ndoh!02:19
regeyayeah, there's a really good question:  I've not had fs corruption bad enough that I go into maint mode at boot.  is one prompted for root passwd?  if so, that's got to be a scary moment for the majority who haven't set a password...02:19
_jasonnarles, great02:19
jamiesudo gdm02:19
narles_jason, thanks for your help bro... i can watch my saved by the bell movie with sound now02:19
JarG0nbehold the newbie folks02:19
bloodwhy would i not have permision to view my windows partition from linux?02:20
JarG0nok02:20
_jasonnarles, np02:20
JarG0ngdm already running. aborting!02:20
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jamiectk alt F702:20
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jamieCtl Alt F702:20
sethkJarG0n, ok, then you should see something in control-alt-f702:20
JarG0nfreezes. .. my cursor disappears!02:20
sethkJarG0n, please, that is NOT freezing02:21
jamiego back to terminal02:21
sethkJarG0n, freezing is when something does nothing at all.  You can switch back to the other VTs.  you are not frozen02:21
jamiesudo killall gdm  then sudo killall X02:21
JarG0nctrl+alt+f1 ?02:21
JarG0nok02:21
mika0800ok, I now have the 3c509.ko extracted. Any idea, are USB memory sticks supported even during installation of Ubuntu, or is it safer just to copy it to a floppy ?02:21
iKernelJarGOn: killall -9 gdm?02:21
jamieJarG0n, then try gdm again02:21
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cello_raspis there any way i can configure the keyboard + mouse so that ctrl+click acts as a right-click? i'm using an apple mac :|02:21
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jamieJarG0n, iKernel is right killall -9 gdm02:22
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JarG0nX: No process killed02:22
mika0800btw: is it just the 3c509.ko alone or does it need some support files as well ???02:22
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jamieJargon did you do the gdm one02:22
iKernelJarGOn: I think it might have been gdm-binary... killall -9 gdm-binary02:22
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JarG0nkillall -9 gdm > gdm: no process killed02:22
JarG0nthx for your patience :)02:23
iKernelJarGOn: killall -9 gdm-binary02:23
JarG0njamie> I believe so yes02:23
JarG0nok02:23
jamieJarG0n, do what iKernel says02:23
seliniumseth, I get unexpected token near cat when I try to run the command... Any ideas?02:23
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seliniumsethk, I get unexpected token near cat when I try to run the command... Any ideas?02:23
tbwHi02:23
seliniumsorry seth, wrong seth!02:23
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sethselinium, it happens all the time, no worries02:24
tbwDoes anyone here know about using TV out with binary Nvidia driver?02:24
JarG0nikernal> no process killed02:24
regeyaI should contact, erm, someone.  Noticed that, when GnomeBaker uses a ext3+dir_index fs for tmp, and you try to copy an audiocd, the tracks are written in "random" order.  temp fix:  use cdrdao, but that's a bit puzzling.02:24
iKernelJarGOm: Run top, see what gdm's process is called. See if you can beat me :)02:24
JarG0nsudo killall -9 gdm-binary ??? or without sudo?02:24
sethkJarG0n, with.02:24
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sethkJarG0n, but I'm not quite sure why you are killing gdm.  when you start it again, exactly the same thing will happen.02:25
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JarG0nsame results... going to perform iKernals last request02:25
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PapooseCan anyone tell me now to install SWAT for Samba?02:26
jesseman_JarG0n: ps -A | grep gdm02:26
iKernelJarGOn: Strange, I didn't see anything much related to GDM (apart from some other gnome apps). Try running gdm again02:26
JarG0nI don't see any running process remotely close to gdm in the process monitor02:27
JarG0nunless I can scroll down somehow02:27
JarG0niKernel> ok02:27
JarG0nhow do I exit this screen?02:27
bimberiPapoose: sudo aptitude install swat (or use Synaptic) - the universe repository needs to be enabled02:27
JarG0nprocess list02:27
astrayctrl+x02:28
astrayor ctrl+c02:28
JarG0ndoh02:28
mika0800I tried SWAT in spring 2005... and got nowhere with it... so I  just ended up manually editing /etc/samba/smb.conf ... as well as using smbpasswd and (was it) smbadduser02:28
sethkJarG0n, q will do it also02:28
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narlestesting02:28
JarG0nI typed sudo gdm, and nothing.02:28
JarG0nit brings up user@ubuntu:~$ and sits02:29
iKernelJarG0n: That means gdm successfully started.02:29
Eleafhello02:29
sethkJarG0n, of course.  that's what was run during boot.  you'll see, as I said, exactly the same thing if you run it again.02:29
SapentisiKernel, nice handle ;)02:29
JarG0nMaybe I'm just not able to view it02:29
EleafWhat is Ubuntu doing when "Calculating Module Dependencies" at boot?02:30
sethkJarG0n, you have to find out what the problem is.  restarting things won't help you.02:30
jamieJarG0n, did gnome ever work?02:30
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Papoosebimberi how do I enable universal repository?02:30
sethkEleaf, calculating module dependencies02:30
JarG0njamie> nope02:30
bimberiubotu tell Papoose about universe02:30
Sapentissethk, probably. :p02:30
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JarG0nsethk> thanks for your help.  I still have to figure out my display problem, as to why I cannot view gnome.02:30
iKernelJarG0n: Hold down ctrl, alt and f7 and the same time and see what happens.02:30
Eleafsethk, what exactly is it doing?  Mine freezes every time at boot.  will replacing the kernel help that?02:30
JarG0nok02:30
ron_anyone know how to get back to the regular opensource drivers after installing fglrx?02:30
iKernelJarG0n: Hold down ctrl, alt and f7 at the same time and see what happens.02:31
sethkEleaf, well, it's possible, but that's not the right way to fix it.02:31
Eleafsethk, how do I fix it?02:31
jamieron_,  change Xorg.conf "fglrx" back to "ati"02:31
sethkEleaf, can you get to a console login?02:31
JarG0niKernel> Same effect as running gdm again.  It freezes the screen until I use ctrl+alt+f1 again.02:31
Eleafseth, I am in the livecd, I have chroot access to my harddrive02:31
ron_i did that but glxinfo reports otherwise02:31
Eleafsethk ^^02:31
iKernelJarG0n: Did you recently install any other drivers for your graphics card?02:32
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sethkEleaf, chroot won't help here.  I was hoping to trace the module thing, but if you can't get to a prompt you can't do that.02:32
JarG0niKernel> I've installed nothing but ubuntu.  I have the linux drivers for my Nvidia card (from their website).02:32
sethkEleaf, I think it is probably hanging on whatever it does _after_ calculating module dependencies02:32
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Eleafseth, I'm in the prompt02:32
JarG0nI'm assuming I have to load them on there somehow, but I have no idea how to do this.  I need a tutorial on chroot. :/02:32
Eleafseth, what difference is being in the prompt and being chrooted into the harddrive?  I can change stuff...02:33
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iKernelJarG0n: Right. And did you install these linux drivers.02:33
iKernel?02:33
ron_should i load glcore in xorg.conf?02:33
Unitywhat package should i install to get french spellchecking in openoffice?02:33
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Eleafsethk, what difference is being in the prompt and being chrooted into the harddrive?  I can change stuff...02:33
JarG0niKernel> Not yet.  I think that's the next logical step, no?02:33
sethkEleaf, you can't find out why something is in an endless loop unless that thing is running02:33
mweron_: not if you inted to use fglrx02:33
JarG0nI feel like a whitebelt again :/02:33
Eleafseth, well it doesn't boot.  I can't get to a prompt.02:33
sethkEleaf, right, I know.02:33
iKernelJarG0n: hmm... did you make any changes to xorg.conf?02:34
ron_no i don't jamie all fglrx is lock up my sytem regardless02:34
sethkEleaf, the live cd boots, and your installed system won't boot?02:34
Eleafseth, I can however I have access to it.  what should I reinstall02:34
Eleafsethk yes02:34
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JarG0niKernel> I did not, as I don't know much of anything about linux.02:34
ron_i'm just trying to get back to the origianl ati drivers and opengl02:34
Eleafsethk, I did a distupgrade and it broke something02:34
linlini can not install mplayer02:34
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Eleafand it won't boot sethk02:34
sethkEleaf, oh.  You can try reinstalling the kernel.  It can't hurt.02:34
JarG0niKernel> As I mentioned before, I think I need an educational guide first.02:34
sethkEleaf, and if there truly is a module dependency issue it might help.02:35
Eleafseth, what else?  I wanna reinstall as much as I can..02:35
iKernelJarG0n: Well, try apt-get install nvidia-glx.02:35
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linlinPackage mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:35
linlinThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:35
linlinis only available from another source02:35
linlinE: Package mplayer has no installation candidate02:35
Eleafsethk, what else?  I wanna reinstall as much as I can..02:35
ron_brb02:35
martmanhow can i get rid of the top menu thingy and get the bottom to be like a normal taskbar?02:35
sethkEleaf, impossible to say, really.02:35
linlini've enabled multiverse02:35
Eleafsethk your name is getting really annoying because of the other user seth02:35
Eleaflol02:35
iKernellinlin: Just get mplayer from mplayer's site. I'll provide a download link for you02:35
sethkEleaf, sorry, but I was here first.  :)02:35
JarG0niKernel> I have it loaded in my CD_ROM.  I just burned the driver: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8178-pkg2.run02:35
bimberiUnity: (guessing somewhat) - myspell-fr or myspell-fr-gut (OOo uses myspell)02:35
mwelinlin: is your sources.list sane?02:35
xClayGI have an image file that is a .B5I , any ideas on what to use to burn it?02:36
Eleaflol02:36
Eleafsethk, how do I reinstall modules?02:36
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sethkEleaf, modules are part of the kernel, usually02:36
Eleafok02:36
Linuturkhey fellas02:36
EleafI'll try rebooting now...02:36
sethkEleaf, occasionally, another package will install a module (a video driver, possibly)02:36
Linuturkgot my wireless working without outside help02:36
Eleafseth, will it use the new kernel immediately?02:36
bimberilinlin: it's not called mplayer - it will be mplayer-386 (or -586 or -k7 ...)02:36
iKernelJarG0n: You need to actually run it. As root, do: ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8178-pkg2.run02:37
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JarG0niKernel> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 permission denied) E: Unable to lock the list directory02:37
ardchoilleLinuturk: Good job! :)02:37
LinuturkIs there anyway to have my system modprobe ndiswrapper and connect to any free networks at startup?02:37
iKernelJarG0n: You need to be root. sudo -s and type in your password.02:37
mweEleaf: his nick is sethk :)02:37
JarG0nok!02:37
cello_rasphow do i get ctrl+click to act as right click?02:37
bimberilinlin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto02:37
Eleafmwe, omg I know02:37
mweEleaf: rofl02:37
Eleafmwe, whenever I hit tab it goes to seth.  It's so freaking annoying02:37
tbwAnyone know where I can find information about getting my Nvidia card to not use the component out for the main display?02:37
bimberiEleaf: hit tab twice :)02:38
Eleafbimberi, that takes too long02:38
Eleaflol02:38
bimberilol02:38
Eleafsethk, I added a new kernel.  but that doesn't show up at boot.. How do I select a new kernel?02:38
JarG0niKernel> may I msg you?02:38
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iKernelJarG0n: ok02:38
sethEleaf, I was seth_k, and that's still alphabetically in front of sethk. Now I'm seth, and it still buggers :) can't win for losing02:38
JarG0nthx02:38
sethkEleaf, you have to add it to the grub menu.02:39
Eleafsethk, ppc doesn't use grub02:39
iKerneldooglus: You still there?02:39
sethkEleaf, ok, the boot manager thing then, I forget the ppc name.02:39
EleafYaboot02:39
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lordmundilooking for some adivce on a edubuntu install02:39
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lordmundierr advice02:39
sethkEleaf, unfortunately I haven't used linux on ppc in almost three years02:39
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LinuturkIs there anyway to have my system modprobe ndiswrapper and connect to any free networks at startup?02:39
JarG0ndoh: Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems02:40
EleafOMFG!!02:40
Eleafoh yay!!02:40
EleafI fixed it!!!02:40
JarG0niKernel>  sudo -s does not prompt me for my password02:40
Eleaf-DANCES with sethk and everybody else!!-02:40
EleafYAYA02:40
Eleaflol02:40
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iKernelJarG0n: But did it change you to root?02:40
mweJarG0n: after 10 minutes it will02:40
franky123jarg0n: it will prompt you for your passs the firs ttime you use it. then it allows you to use it w/o prompt for like 10 minutes02:40
JarG0n~# ?02:40
iKernelmwe: 15.02:40
mweJarG0n: if you used sudo within the last 15 minutes it wont ask again02:40
JarG0nah02:40
mweiKernel: all right 15 minutes then02:41
Linuturkunless you go, sudo su02:41
JarG0nthen I must be.  What are my indications I have root?02:41
Linuturkthen, it'll be permanent for the entire session02:41
JarG0nok02:41
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LinuturkIs there anyway to have my system modprobe ndiswrapper and connect to any free networks at startup?02:41
mweJarG0n: a # instead of a $02:41
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JarG0nright. then I'm in root.02:41
Eleafit worked... = )02:41
iKernelLinuturk: First bit is easy02:41
celebornWhat's the default command to unzip a tar.bz2?02:41
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JarG0nwhoo hoo!02:41
sethkceleborn, xvjf filename02:41
sethkceleborn, the j means uncompress with bunzip202:42
Niko-formerlyEagis there a cli program in ubuntu to change what services start up during init?  I know Fedora has a program called chkconfig...anything similar?02:42
iKernelLinuturk:  nano /etc/modules. Add ndiswapper on a new line.02:42
celebornsethk, thank you02:42
LinuturkiKernel, I want it to sync with the time servers on the boot. Will that work?02:42
JarG0niKernel> now I try to install that driver?02:42
XenguyNiko-formerlyEag: rcconf  ?02:42
iKernelLinuturk:  should do, if it does it otherwise02:42
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iKernelJarG0n: First, try apt-get install nvidia-glx02:42
linlinthankyou bimberi02:43
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Linuturkhow do i exit nano?02:43
Niko-formerlyEagXenguy: I'll try installing it...thanks02:43
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bimberilinlin: np :)02:43
MadpilotLinuturk: ctrl+X02:43
XenguyNiko-formerlyEag: yw02:43
lordmunditrying to install edubuntu...  I boot cd and in the first phase of "detecting cd roms" it locks up while "loading ide_cd"... any ideas?02:43
Bachstudiesis the ubuntu firewall installed by default or is it only added by installing firestarter?02:43
jumpkicklinuturk: says at the bottom of the screen02:43
iKernelLinuturk: ctrl-x. press y, then enter.02:43
bimberi!firewall02:44
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter. see !firestarter02:44
JarG0niKernel> whoo hoo! it's doing something!02:44
ardchoilleJarG0n: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:44
XenguyBachstudies: there is no default firewall; shorewall is another firewall option02:44
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Linuturkgot it. Forgot the sudo before loading, so I had to do it again02:44
JarG0niKernel> Now what ?02:44
Linuturkhow about auto connecting to any available network?02:44
iKernelJarG0n: Did it install a kernel-module?02:44
GameOverhello everyone02:44
JarG0nardchoille> thanks... I have that, yet it directs me to user menus in gnome (or KDE) i think, which I cannot access yet.02:45
JarG0niKernel> Yes, I think so.02:45
JarG0nno errors02:45
BachstudiesXenguy: so if I don't install firestarter I don't have to worry about opening ports for internet apps?02:45
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iKernelJarG0n: Try modprobe nvidia02:45
Linuturkwell, first let me make sure it's going to load right. brb02:45
GameOveranyone mind helpin a newb out who has a few questions02:45
BachstudiesGameOver: sure go ahead!02:45
JarG0niKernel> Returned me to root after that.02:45
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GameOverthanks02:45
GameOverfor starters... i cant get my linksys wireless card to work02:46
GameOveri downloaded ndiswrapper02:46
GameOverfollowed directions02:46
iKernelJarG0n: After modprobe nvidia?02:46
GameOverand get alot of permission denied errors02:46
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JarG0niKernel> Yep02:46
iKernelGameOver: You need to be root.02:46
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GameOverbut i am02:46
liucdgfj02:46
GameOverby root u mean sudo02:46
jumpkickwhat's the best way to load a single package and its dependancies from dapper without dist-upgrading?02:46
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iKernelGameOver: sudo -s02:46
iKernelJarG0n: Good. nano /etc/xorg.conf02:46
iKernelJarG0n: wait no sorry02:47
GameOverahh02:47
GameOverok02:47
lordmunditrying to install edubuntu...  I boot cd and in the first phase of "detecting cd roms" it locks up while "loading ide_cd"... any ideas?02:47
GameOverlet me see what i can do02:47
linlinenyc Package mplayer-386 has no installation candidate :(02:47
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iKernelJarG0n: nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf02:47
linlinoops02:47
linlinwhat the heck02:47
iKernelJarG0n: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:47
JarG0nok02:47
linlinE,,:: Package mplayer-386 has no installation candidate :(02:47
sethklordmundi, you can try an install argument to turn off DMA for IDE devices02:48
JarG0ngot it02:48
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iKernelJarG0n: Go down to Section "Device"02:48
linuturkworks02:48
linuturkthank you fellas02:48
JarG0nok02:48
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timfrostlinlin, did you do 'apt-get up[date' after adding multiverse?02:48
JarG0ni'm there02:48
linlinyes02:49
linlinill pastebin my sources.list02:49
iKernelJarG0n: Change "nv" to "nvidia"02:49
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linlinmaybe i did something wrong02:49
LinuturkI now have a fully functional Ubuntu install02:49
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lordmundisethk:  which argument should i use?02:49
JarG0niKernel> done02:50
sethklordmundi, I don't remember the specific string.  f1 should show it to you02:50
lordmundik02:50
lordmundii'll go give it a shot02:50
iKernelJarG0n: Saved?02:50
JarG0ndunno how?02:50
LinuturkWhat is the best way to make sure all my hardware is working correctly?02:51
JarG0nThere's no "file" save!!02:51
JarG0nlol02:51
iKernelJarG0n: Press ctrl and x at the same time02:51
burnhamd_hello I have a wireless keyboard/ mouse that connects via one usb plug and I must set usb legacy support in the bios for grub to work02:51
burnhamd_my problem is that ubuntu doesnt boot when I turn legacy usb on02:51
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JarG0nsaved02:51
iKernelJarG0n: Returned to root?02:51
celebornsudo apt-get install mplayer-686 doesn't work?02:51
burnhamd_cannot allocate pci 5:0:0 or something similar02:51
burnhamd_anyone know hox to solve this02:52
JarG0nyes02:52
iKernelJarG0n: Ok. nano /etc/modules02:52
iKernelJarG0n: Put nvidia at the bottom, save, and reboot.02:52
LinuturkiKernel, don't forget to tell them to use sudo in front of that02:53
astrayAnyone know of a way to replace the gnome right-click menu with the one openbox uses?02:53
iKernelLinuturk: He's on the root account.02:53
mweLinuturk: he's at a root prompt02:53
Papoosehow do i edit .conf files?02:53
JarG0nyeah, but thx02:53
timfrostceleborn, mplayer-586 is for PentiumPro or better.02:53
iKernelPapoose: nano foo.conf02:53
celeborntimfrost, what would be for AMD?02:53
JarG0nhow do I reboot from the command line?02:53
JarG0nexit?02:53
LinuturkiKernel, o, well i missed that when you helped me. Just trying to be helpful myself02:53
mwePapoose: probably need sudo02:53
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_jasonJarG0n, sudo reboot02:54
iKernelJarG0n: Just type in reboot and hit enter02:54
psusiJarG0n, shutdown -r now02:54
iKernel_jason: No need for sudo02:54
mweinit 602:54
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iKernelpsusi: Don't use shutdown, reboot is easier.02:54
psusiahhh02:54
_jasoniKernel, really? mine complains02:54
JarG0nthx!02:54
mwe_jason: he's at a root prompt still02:54
_jasonoh02:55
Linuturknow that I have this working correctly, I don't know what to do with linux lol02:55
psusiwait a second... you can't run reboot without sudo either02:55
psusiit isn't suid02:55
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mwepsusi: hello are you sleeping?02:55
celebornWhat's the mplayer-XXX package that works for AMD?02:55
crimsunit doesn't matter. 'reboot' calls 'shutdown' if runlevel isn't 0 or 6.02:55
mwepsusi: he's at a root prompt02:55
_jasonubotu, tell celeborn about mplayer02:55
tamaleHello, does anyone know much about mdadm here?02:55
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iKerneltamale: Never heard of it02:55
eheitnerHello all. Can anyone help me figure out why SANE is not recognizing my scanner? It is a UMAX PowerlookII which is a supported model, supposedly.02:56
psusiI thought someone said no need for sudo with reboot?  maybe I misunderstood02:56
tamaleit's the linux  software raid02:56
iKernelpsusi: I said that.02:56
JarG0npsusi> if your logged in as root, no need?02:56
JarG0niKernel> it's rebooting now.02:56
tamaleI'd like to setup software raid 5 on my ubuntu box02:56
iKernelpsusi: No need for sudo for anything if you're logged on as root.02:56
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tamaleand don't know where to start02:56
iKernelJarG0n: ok02:56
mwepsusi: yeah :)02:56
psusiiKernel, ohh, thought you meant no need for sudo with the reboot command ;)02:56
tamaleand another, general question,  what's the default root password in ubuntu ?02:56
mika0800hmmm... durin installation, modprobe does not work (probably beacause the database it needs to resolve dependencies does not exist yet)... but insmod does. After using that, the NIC is recognised correctly. Even DHCP works. After the install is complete, I would guess there will be no problems with the NIC....02:57
psusitamale, there is none02:57
crimsuntamale: nothing you could probably guess within a lifetime.02:57
JarG0niKernel> Ok i'm still getting the same symptoms.  Screen freezes with non blinking cursor in upper left of screen02:57
psusiubotu, tell tamale about root02:57
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iKernelJarG0n: Are you sure you have your moniter plugged into your nvidia card?02:57
tamalehow do you do things like mdadm then02:57
mwemika0800: i don't know. if there is just do what I told you several times already02:57
Mazinwhat media players utilize the w32codecs package?02:57
JarG0niKernel> yes, but i'll check just cause you asked me to. :)02:58
edoardodo any of you guys use hal?02:58
psusiedoardo, we all do... we use ubuntu02:58
psusiwhich uses hal02:58
mika0800So for all those, who cannot get their network going: this is good news: if you reinstall and use insmod *during* the installation, as early as possible, I'd guess the network will work just fine !02:58
iKernelMazin: Mplayer uses w32codecs fine. Just download it from their site, and follow the instructions.02:58
crimsunMazin: mplayer, kaffeine, totem, ...02:58
hollerMazin: totem-xine gxine xine02:58
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mwemika0800: blacklist or even remove the bad module and put the name of the correct one in /etc/modules02:58
JarG0niKernel> it's plugged into a dual card system.  The cards are hooked together.  Maybe I need to load the actual drivers from the website?02:58
Mazinhow do i make totem use it?  is it automatic?02:59
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iKernelJarG0n: Try not using a dual card system.02:59
edoardopsusi, that's good. do you have any idea as to how it starts, and then after two seconds it stops? i can't run it anymore. behaves like that : )02:59
pundaihey is nvidia-glx dependent on the kernel version02:59
mwemika0800: there was no need to try several distributions or reinstall02:59
JarG0niKernel> ok, i'll take one out and see. Thx!02:59
hollerMazin: yes, if u install it correctly02:59
PuMpErNiCkLepundai: yeah02:59
iKernelJarG0n: Try just plugging it straight into the nvidia card.02:59
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hollertheres a couple threads on the forum that have good methods to getting around to it..02:59
pundaiPuMpErNiCkLe, 5ux03:00
PuMpErNiCkLeo_O03:00
iKernelJarG0n: I mean take out the dual card althogether, and use only the nvidia card.03:00
JarG0niKernel> yeah, right now it is hooked directly into one, but internally they're both connected via the motherboard feature, and some bridging device.03:00
hollerMazin: i think somebody set up a script that does everything for you03:00
edoardopsusi, i was usin' 0.4.8 and it started fine. then i upgraded to 0.5.5.1, and had that issue. so i downgraded to 0.5.4, then back to 0.4.8... and it don't start! : (03:00
edoardopsusi, help? : )03:00
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Mazinwell, i installed the w32codecs deb package03:00
JarG0niKernel> that means I will only be able to use one of them for the purpose of this test, correct?  They are both Nvidia cards. :)03:00
psusiedoardo, use the most current version in the repositories for one ;)03:00
Mazinbut totem just tells me i don't have the right decoder03:01
iKernelJarG0n: Yep.03:01
psusiedoardo, and if you are sure it is dieing, you might try starting it by hand... hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes, and look at the output03:01
mika0800mwe: With my previous install (now gone because I formatted that partition of hard disk) I could get the NIC half-working. PING would work, and http to local LAN with IP addresses as well. BUt I was unable to configure the network properly. By reinstalling, but forcing the installer to recognize the NIC correctly, I expect to be able to automate all network settings and leave the configuration to the installer, and avoid doing it manually. Your s03:01
JarG0nIKernel> Working on it now.  I'll let you know if it works.  Thank you!03:01
mweMazin: yes it probably is set to use gstreamer03:01
hollerMaxin: check in synaptic whether u have totem or totem-xine is installed..03:01
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hollerMazin: make sure you have totem-xine installed....totem is just the gstreamer package...which has some issues03:02
edoardopsusi, 03:01:53.342 [E]  hald_dbus.c:1934: dbus_bus_get(): Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory03:02
mwemika0800: probably but it's a lot of unnececary work03:02
edoardopsusi, dbus issue then?03:02
mika0800I had other reasons to switch distro as well. I had a Debian Sarge with 2.6.8 kernel, and I wanted 2.6.10 instead.03:02
Mazinokay, i'll try totem-xine03:02
iKernelLast time I saw, the nvidia drivers from nvidia's website for geforce2 were for the IA32 cpu arch. Pretty annoying.03:02
mwemika0800: you should have just blacklisted or removed the bad module and put the name of the right one in /etc/modules03:02
Mazinshould i remove gstreamer03:02
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hollerMazin: no, gstreamers fine...03:03
iKernelMazin: *sigh*03:03
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iKernelMazin: Lemme see if I can recall how to install w32codecs for mplayer.03:03
hollerMazin: if it asks u to remove...then remove it..03:03
Mazinactually, will amarok work, i'm gonna dl it03:03
kameron!w32codecs03:03
ubotuw32codecs is probably a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install03:03
mika0800mwe: You are right IF you are able to do all network configuration manually. If not, then you're wrong. And the same of course applies to anyone with the same problem... so even if you're able to configure your network all manually, others may not be....03:03
mweI've had only bad experiences with gstreamer03:03
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mwemika0800: it's like dhclient, done03:04
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mwemika0800: whatever works for you though. it's your machine. fill your boots03:05
hollerMazin: amarok is for KDE...03:05
Eleafholler, I love amarok03:05
mika0800Well, if I ever have problems like this again, I will test that. But I would not be so sure.... for example ifup would just quit with error msg "unknown alias: eth0" ... whereas ifconfig DOES understand what is eth0 ...03:05
iKernelMazin: Install mplayer. download codecs here: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/windows-all-20050412.zip put them in this directory: /usr/local/lib/codecs/03:05
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mweiKernel: why not use the w32codecs deb?03:06
concept10!info VLC03:06
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB03:06
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holler!totem-xine03:06
ubotu[totem-xine]  like, totally, sudo apt-get install totem-xine. To play non-free formats, get the w32codecs. The instructions are at http://https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats section Codecs03:06
psusiedoardo, looks like it03:06
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holler!totem03:07
ubotuholler: I don't know, could you explain it?03:07
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iKernelmwe: Because I like to do things that work for me. I haven't tried using w32codecs deb, nor am I going to (incase it doesn't work).03:07
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woodgrain.dmrc error reported on boot -- what is .dmrc??03:07
concept10I wonder what happened to GTK2 VLC, wxwidgets it not so nice03:07
crimsunconcept10: I disabled it in Breezy due to toolkit and vlc borkage.03:07
mweiKernel: i see. maybe other people like to use debs instead03:08
crimsunconcept10: if you're interested, read the changelog.03:08
narlesk03:08
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crimsunconcept10: if you simply Can't Live Without GTK+ 2.0 VLC, then use the breezy-backports version.03:08
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woodgrainwhat's .dmrc?03:09
crimsunwoodgrain: a conffile for device-mapper?03:09
iKernelwoodgrain: www.google.com/linux03:09
tamalei can't believe no one here's used mdadm03:09
tamalehah03:09
iKerneltamale: man mdadm03:09
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woodgraincrimsun, how do you think I could have gotten an error in that file?03:09
jamieI did a expert mode install As I kept getting errors during regular install. (long story) install worked great. However sudo does not seam to work correctly, I do notice I can do an actual root login also. If I am in as a user and I try to open updator or synaptic it will not open. If I type it in from root terminal it will open. I assume I need to assign permissions in sudo how do I do that?03:09
crimsunwoodgrain: -ECONTEXT?03:10
holleranybody know good source for console applications03:10
holler?03:10
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woodgrainiKernel,  thanks will check that.03:10
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alekandrOk, does linux have webcam support like msn has webcam?03:11
mwealekandr: msn is not an os. linux is03:12
mwealekandr: and linux has webcam support, yes03:12
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alekandryou know what i meant03:12
alekandrits 2am03:12
alekandrmy brain doesnt work correctly03:12
mwealekandr: :)03:12
alekandrok mwe, do any messengers have webcam support?03:13
mwealekandr: kopete does03:13
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alekandrmwe: ;)03:13
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alekandrok, now i need to find out how to install the cam, and where to find drivers for it :|03:14
alekandrlets start with the wiki03:14
hollerdoes anybody know wuts a good firewall ?03:14
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mwealekandr: I think it's generally plug; (enjoy|cry)03:15
alekandrholler: firestarter03:15
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alekandrman, mwe lsusb detects something, and device manager knows its a webcam03:15
alekandrso it must be doing something right?03:15
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mwealekandr: yeah like plugging the thing in :)03:16
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alekandroh man03:16
alekandrshh03:16
holleralekandr: i've been using firestarter...problem is i can't change the configs through ssh, so i need to find another one that lets me edit any files through vi/emacs/nano03:16
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alekandrholler: man iptables03:17
mweholler: you can just edit the rules by hand03:17
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hollerooo...03:17
gerald-voltanyone know where firefox puts all the temporary files/03:17
hollerhow do i do that then..?03:17
mweholler: firestarter is just a front end to iptables like any linux firewall anyway03:17
StdUrnmalekandr, -- do any messengers have webcam support? -- amsn does too03:17
hollermwe: did not know that...03:17
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alekandrStdUrnm: ooo, music too my ears :] 03:18
nteri think kopete does03:18
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mweholler: poke around in /etc/firestarter/ and read the iptables manual to understand the basics of iptables rules03:18
DShepherdI apt-getted the fast-user-switch-applet.. how do i launch it?03:19
hollermwe: on it...thanks..=)03:20
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mweholler: you're welcome03:20
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GameOverhey i kern03:20
GameOverit works now thanks.....03:20
GameOverbut now my question is how do i get it to start everytime i boot03:20
unkn0wn2ucan anyone recommend a tool for loading and unloading modules , like a gui or curses based program?03:21
celebornThe following packages have unmet dependencies:03:21
celeborn  mplayer-386: Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-20 but it is not installable03:21
celebornE: Broken packages03:21
C-O-L-Tdoes exist a kind of world atlas for linux?03:21
C-O-L-Tso where can I find03:21
celebornDoes anybody know how to get around this?03:21
C-O-L-Tcountry maps03:21
C-O-L-Tand so on03:21
GameOverIKERNAL?03:21
mweceleborn: yeah unbreak your sources.list03:21
mweceleborn: and sudo apt-get update03:21
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unkn0wn2uGameOver put a startup script in xsession03:22
GameOverim a newb.... whats xsession03:22
GameOverand how do i access it03:23
unkn0wn2uin your home folder .xsession03:23
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ilba7r1dmix03:23
ilba7r!dmix03:23
ubotusomebody said dmix was at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin03:23
GameOverits not there03:23
GameOverin the home folder03:23
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hikenbootin ubunto how do i tell the version of gcc installed I did an echo $CC and dont get anything?03:23
unkn0wn2umake it03:23
GameOverhow03:24
cafuegohikenboot: gcc -v03:24
dooglusGameOver: you want your wireless card to work for all users don't you?03:24
GameOveryes03:24
celebornmwe, well I only get that error when I add deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe multiverse03:24
celeborndeb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe multiverse03:24
celeborn to sources, but without those I get Package mplayer-386 is not available, but is referred to by another package.03:24
dooglusso whatever needs running should run at boot time, not when a user decides to log in03:24
dooglusGameOver: stick the line you need to run at the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh03:24
dooglusGameOver: then it will run when you boot03:25
mweceleborn: of course. don't mix hoary into breezy03:25
hikenbootI installed the gcc packages but it tells me  gcc: command not found do i have to configure gcc some how or specify an environment variable?03:25
mweceleborn: replace hoary with breezy in that line an it should work03:25
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dooglushikenboot: try gcc-4.003:25
cafuegohikenboot: install build-essential. What are you compiling anyway?03:25
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lakinHi, I'm preparing a laptop with ubuntu and have installed network-manager.  There are no wireless networks nearby, but I didn't expect NM to list only the "wired network" menu option when I click on it.  I'm unsure if that means that it doesn't detect my wireless card or if it just doesn't detect wireless networks.03:26
hikenbootnvidia drivers03:26
GameOverjust type in ndiswrapper?03:26
GameOverdooglus?03:26
GameOverin kate?03:26
hikenbooti installed gcc-4.0 and 3.4 and 3.303:26
cafuegohikenboot: You don't need a compiler, they're pre-built.03:26
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dooglusGameOver: you'll need to use "sudo" to edit it.  in kate, or whatever else03:26
hikenbootno it compiles if it doesnt find a prebuilt one for the particular kernel03:26
cafuegohikenboot: Install the restricted-modules-$(uname -r) package and 'nvidia-glx'.03:26
dooglushikenboot: I mean try typing "gcc-4.0" instead of "gcc"03:26
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hikenbootoh03:26
cafuegohikenboot: No, the're IN UBUNTU. Don't go installing shit from nvidia.com03:27
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GameOverso how do i do that... sorry for the noobish questions.... in the command terminal its sudo... then what03:27
hikenbootgcc-4.0 worked03:27
dooglusGameOver: I would "sudo kate /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh"03:27
cafuegoEven if it worked, don't go installing shit from nvidia.com03:27
StdUrnmkate03:27
hikenbootyou mean the real nvidia drivers are included not the nv version?03:27
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cafuegohikenboot: yes.03:27
StdUrnmwhoops03:27
hikenbootok hikenboot looks for them03:28
cafuegohikenboot: They're in the 'restricted' repository.03:28
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hikenbootah ok03:28
concept10crimsun, oh thanks for the reply (I was away)03:28
dooglushikenboot: there's supposed to be a symlink from /usr/bin/gcc to gcc-4.0 - but sometimes it doesn't get made.  ubuntu's a bit flaky sometimes03:28
unkn0wn2uwhat is wrong with the nvidia drivers from nvidia?03:28
cafuegounkn0wn2u: They're not in the package system.03:28
iKernelUse kernel frame buffer device for a nvidia card?03:29
unkn0wn2uok03:29
crimsundooglus: in that case gcc-4.0 needs to be --reinstalled03:29
cafuegodooglus: Still, gcc-4.0 on breezy shouldn't be used for kernel module builds.03:29
doogluscrimsun: why would you need to reinstall anything?03:29
unkn0wn2uI guess no one should ever compile from source03:29
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cafuegounkn0wn2u: Not if there's 1) no need and 2) no experience in doing so.03:29
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iKerneldooglus: I'm still having trouble with the ntfs drive. Please note that anything you said to me after I said "brb", I will not have seen.03:30
dooglusunkn0wn2u: if nobody ever compiled from source, where would the binaries come from?03:30
dannyHey any one help me i cant play my mp3s03:30
GameOverit keeps saying communication problem with kate... it probably crashed03:30
dooglusiKernel: so there's no need for me to apologise then?03:30
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GameOverdooglus?03:30
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JarG0nWhile configuring X server, it's asking me "Use kernel framebuffer device interface ?" Y/N? X Server wants to communicate through this interface.  Should I use this?03:31
dooglusGameOver: yes?03:31
iKerneldooglus: I'm not sure.03:31
GameOversudo kate /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh03:31
GameOveropps03:31
cafuegoJarG0n: no03:31
GameOverwell it says that there is a communication problem with kate03:31
GameOverit probably crashed03:31
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JarG0nyikes03:31
fokajoin #ubuntu-zh03:31
dooglusGameOver: I don't use kate.  It's all a bit too KDE for my tastes.  Do you have gedit?03:31
fokaOops, sorry.  :-)03:31
JarG0nIKernel> i'll have to go back03:31
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dooglusGameOver: if so, try "sudo gedit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh"03:31
unkn0wn2uvi03:32
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iKernelcafuego: Why not?03:32
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DShepherddoes anyone know of any program that can open Publisher files...? other than microsoft files?03:32
jnymohi03:32
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cafuegoiKernel: Can make X wonky.03:32
cafuego(and slow)03:32
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GameOverno i dont have it03:32
iKernelcafuego: With a nvidia card? Doesn't seem to be too bad with an ati card...03:32
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GameOveri can get it with adept?03:32
SapentisThere are Twenty-nine million registered linux users.03:33
jnymotrying to follow the directions on http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?messageID=322791&tstart=0 to install vmplayer... but sudo apt-get gcc-3.4 can't be found in the package list03:33
ubuntuhey you guys, can i get some help?  I can't access my windows files on my hdd (using live CD right now) and when i go to Partition properties of my main HDD, it says Partition 1 - inaccessible and when i click on Enable it does nothing03:33
iKernelSapentis: How do I register?03:33
hikenbootso i should ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 /usr/bin/gcc after creating directory gcc ?03:33
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dooglusGameOver: do you know 'vi' or 'nano'?  they can both edit it03:33
concept10I havent used backports in a while (since back when backports borked FF 1.05 or something)  Are there any major issue out there now before I grab these apps?03:33
SapentisiKernel, http://counter.li.org03:33
cafuegoiKernel: SWitched from X to console recently? On nvidia is can make the console illegible. You only really need it on systems where you ONLY have an fbcon interface, like macs, or possibly embedded devices.03:33
Mezconcept10, as long as you use the official ones - no03:33
edoardopsusi, can you help me out again dude?03:33
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edoardopsusi, i fixed dbus, and hal now starts. so does ivman03:34
amonkeywhat's the opposite of eject?03:34
jnymothis is a fresh install of ubuntu 5.10 too, and I've installed the 'essentials' package too03:34
dooglusamonkey: inject03:34
ubuntuhey you guys, can i get some help?  I can't access my windows files on my hdd (using live CD right now) and when i go to Partition properties of my main HDD, it says Partition 1 - inaccessible and when i click on Enable it does nothing03:34
ubuntu^^03:34
edoardopsusi, the issue is, i plugin a usb key... and nothin' happens!03:34
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amonkeydooglus, i was being serious. the opposite of eject is eject -t but that's not working for my usb drive03:34
hikenbootdooglus so i should ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 /usr/bin/gcc after creating directory gcc ?03:35
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iKernelcafuego: I'm using an ati card here :) However, at home, on my nvidia card, I don't use kernel frame buffer03:35
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dooglushikenboot: "sudo ln -s gcc-4.0 /usr/bin/gcc" is how it usually looks03:36
cafuegoiKernel: It's just one of those things, if you don't need it, don't enable it, so it can't break ;-)03:36
unkn0wn2uamonkey, are you trying to mount your usb03:36
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iKernelcafuego: Well, I got told I should switch it on. So I did. No problems so far.03:36
jnymoanybody know why apt isn't seeing gcc-3.4 for me?03:36
iKerneljnymo: apt-get install gcc303:37
jnymoI see 3.3 and 4.0 (I have 4.0 installed)03:37
cafuego!info gcc-3.403:37
daskogYeah..Ubuntu once again proves to be top notch =) This is sooo waird! Second time i install Ubuntu x86-64 now ubuntu decides it suddenly likes my Wireless card! besides all i've talked to says my wifi card is not supported! go figure?? =)03:37
amonkeyunkn0wn2u, neg. it's an ipod, after you eject and try to 'inject' with eject -t (the command to close the cd tray, which does from the ipod's side seem to induce connection) the computer can't find sdb, nor can it re-eject03:37
bimbericafuego: even "Package 'ubuntu-desktop' does not exist."03:37
cafuegobimberi: Mebbe the mirror server the bot is set to use is busted.03:37
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cafuegowouldn't be the first time. I'll check.03:38
jnymoiKernel: well, the directions say "Verify the version of gcc used to compile your kernel"03:38
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hikenbootoh...hmmm could i also instead of linking it to a particular gcc version do a export CC=gcc-4.0   ?03:38
iKerneldaskog: Perhaps everyone you talked to didn't know much about x86-64 proccessors.03:38
cafuegohikenboot: That's the preferred way.03:38
bimbericafuego: ah ok,  fyi "info gcc-3.4 dapper" does work03:38
iKerneljnymo: Find out what version of gcc your kernel was compiled with.03:38
unkn0wn2uamonkey try lsusb03:38
jnymoso I see 3.4 compiled my kernel. and then the directions tell me to do a sudo apt-get install gcc-3.403:39
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iKerneljnymo: You might need to enable more repos.03:39
daskogI guess i can't always believe the hype. Anyway this time im staying with Ubuntu for real! this is just impresive =) thanks to all who works hard on Ubuntu03:39
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cafuegobimberi: "You don't have permission to access /pub/ubuntu/archive/dists/ on this server."03:39
cafuegobimberi: I'll switch it over.03:40
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jnymoah..hm.. k.. what was that sight? auto-repo.ubuntu.comsomething?03:40
jnymos/sight/site03:40
cafuegoubotu: piss off03:40
iKernelDoes EVERYONE use perl here or something?03:40
ubotuJawohl!03:40
QMarioOkay, Ubuntu's version of Firefox is freezing my system each time I stay on it for a while?03:40
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amonkeyunkn0wn2u, Apple never leaves lsusb, even when ejected03:41
bimbericafuego: thanks! :)03:41
QMarioCould it be Flash?03:41
iKernelJawohl means yes.03:41
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QMarioHello cafuego!!! :)03:41
cafuegomornin'03:41
FlannelKingis there no way to disable screensavers entirely?03:41
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Hendikins|WorkQMario: Could be anything. Does the official version have the same problem?03:41
QMarioI don't know. Let me see.03:41
mwecafuego: did you sleep yet?03:42
Hendikins|WorkQMario: Does it also hang on particular sites? Is the problem in any way reproducable?03:42
daskogSay you all tomorrow, night03:42
cafuegoFlannelKing: tell the screensaver to be disbaled in its prefs.03:42
unkn0wn2uamonkey, thats wierd how about fuser -v /dev/sdb03:42
cafuegomwe: Yes, all night long.03:42
QMarioHendikins|Work, yes.03:42
cafuegoHeeeeere bot bot bot!03:42
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Hendikins|WorkQMario: And you are running Firefox as a user, not using sudo?03:42
FlannelKingcafuego, Im looking at that dialog right now, wheres the disabled checkbox?03:42
cafuego!info gcc-3.403:42
QMariohttp://rinkworks.com/stupid/03:42
QMarioHendikins|Work, yes.03:42
amonkeyunkn0wn2u, blank03:42
FlannelKingoh, nevermind, found it cafuego03:42
cafuego... trash bad package lists...03:42
FlannelKingthanks03:42
amonkeymount reports "does not exist"03:43
GameOverok got it to work doobus03:43
GameOverthanks03:43
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Hendikins|WorkQMario: I don't have a release version of Firefox to check that page with.03:43
cafuego!info gcc-3.403:43
QMarioOkay, and also my CPU just jumps to 100% for one Firefox process running. :'(03:43
unkn0wn2uamonkey, what about tail /var/log/messages | grep usb03:43
ubotugcc-3.4: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 3.4.4-6ubuntu8 (breezy), Packaged size: 473 kB, Installed size: 4520 kB03:43
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GameOveranyone know how to fix the problem with streaming wmv and real audio in firefox with MPLAYER?03:43
cafuegoThere we go.03:43
cafuego!info gcc-4.0 dapper03:44
mweGameOver: what problem?03:44
QMarioHendikins|Work, version 1.0.703:44
amonkeyunkn0wn2u, grep usb: nothing but without the grep, lots of failed cdrom closures (which is technically what -t does)03:44
ubotugcc-4.0: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 4.0.2-6ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 498 kB, Installed size: 1276 kB03:44
GameOverif i go to a site with streaming wmv video it will load play for one second03:44
mweGameOver: you need the codecs of course03:44
GameOverand do nothign else03:44
cafuego!info gcc-4.0 hoary03:44
GameOveri have them03:44
QMarioMozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051010 Firefox/1.0.4 (Ubuntu package 1.0.7)03:44
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cafuego!info gcc hoary03:44
Hendikins|WorkQMario: I'm saying *I* do not have a release version of Firefox on this computer to check that page with.03:44
ubotugcc: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is standard. Version: 4:3.3.5-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB03:44
ubotugcc-4.0: (The GNU C compiler), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 4.0-0pre6ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 458 kB, Installed size: 3116 kB03:44
amonkeyunkn0wn2u, nm, misread. those are errors from when i tried to eject after i injected it03:44
Hendikins|Work(that, and I'm on an x86_64 SuSE 9.3 box...)03:44
mweGameOver: and mplayer plugin works but not with wmv?03:44
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GameOverstreaming it doesnt03:45
QMarioHendikins|Work, so sorry, I assumed you meant that I didn't provide you with enough information. :(03:45
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Eugmanhow do I deal with a broken package?03:45
GameOverand doesnt do anythign with real player03:45
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bimbericafuego: great! thanks again03:45
ocletyoh03:45
cafuegono worries03:45
GameOverwill show that mplayer loads for realplayer but doe snothing03:45
cafuegojust caching warty/hoary/breezy/dapper info :-)03:45
ocleti'm trying to setup dhcpd03:45
ocletso that it routes03:45
ocletinternet from my wireless03:45
ocletthrough my hub to a desktop03:45
unkn0wn2uamonkey, unplug it and plug it back in (usb)03:45
mweGameOver: it works for me. how did you install codecs?03:45
GameOverwith automatrix03:46
ocletthis is becoming more of a hassle than i thought it would be03:46
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ocletmy desktop is getting an ip03:46
Hendikins|WorkQMario: Does it misbehave with Firefox 1.5 Official?03:46
ocletbut it isnt getting online03:46
ocletany ideas?03:47
amonkeyunkn0wn2u, that does work, but i'm trying to do this soft side03:47
GameOverif it isnt streaming it will work, for the wmv... i just dont know what the problem is03:47
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unkn0wn2uamonkey, rmmod usb-storage03:47
unkn0wn2uinsmod usb-storage03:47
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QMarioHendikins|Work, the Mozilla Suite also has that problem, and yes it does misbehave with Firefox 1.5 Official.03:48
unkn0wn2uamonkey, that should take the f**ker out , or modprobe -r usb-storage modprobe usb-storage03:48
Hendikins|WorkQMario: Hrm. I'll throw it at CVS HEAD.03:48
Nameeater_I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers but it says I need gcc 3.4 and breezy has 4, so i have downloaded gcc 3.4 but I need to have it set as the gcc to use, how do I do that?03:49
QMarioThere are a number of ads on this page(3), and they all run Flash, so that might be part of the problem... :-/03:49
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GameOvermwe?03:49
edoardoanyone in here familiar with ivman or gnome-volume-manager?03:49
Nameeater_some one told me before, but i can't recall what to set, I tried export GCC=gcc-3.4 but it didn't cut it03:49
unkn0wn2uQMario, xoveroffice does flash03:49
mweGameOver: I don't think I can help here03:49
Hendikins|WorkQMario: I'd pin it on Flash03:50
QMarioWhat is xoveroffice?03:50
unkn0wn2ucrossoveroffice its like $1503:50
Hendikins|Workunkn0wn2u: I don't advise using cxoffice for Flash, except on x86_64 systems.03:50
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QMarioBut wait, I have Flash blocker on this version of Firefox, but it keeps freezing my computer.03:50
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mweQMario: a commercial wine clone that runs some ms office progs and stuff in linux03:50
GameOverok, np.... let me ask u this then does kubuntu install ati mobile drivers when it first sets up the computer03:50
oclet?03:50
amonkeyunkn0wn2u, that looked like a good idea but now it's just not recognzing it nomater what03:50
EugmanE: phpmyadmin: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 12703:50
unkn0wn2uamonkey, modprobe usb-storage03:51
Hendikins|WorkQMario: What extensions have you got? Can you pastebin a list for me? (or just type it if it is short)03:51
GameOverif not how do i go about installing ati radeon mobility 7500 drivers03:51
amonkeyunkn0wn2u, did that, no dice03:51
amonkeyunkn0wn2u, ipod may have gotten pissed, it's not showing that it's getting power from the pc03:52
Eugman!broken03:52
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Eugman03:52
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unkn0wn2uamonkey, you removed the kernel drivers for usb03:52
mweGameOver: ati mobile drivers? not the binary driver from ati.com which does 3d03:52
QMarioDOM Inspector 1.8, Talkback 1.5, Adblock 0.5.2.039, MediaPlayerConnectivity 0.4.7.1, Flashblock 1.5, and Session Saver 0.2.03:52
mweGameOver: it's quite easy to set up though03:52
GameOverwell im on a ibm thinkpad laptop... thats the name of the graphix card i have03:52
amonkeyunkn0wn2u, lsmod shows it loaded03:52
GameOversure, can u tell me how03:52
unkn0wn2uamonkey, you need usb-storage and more03:52
mwe!tell GameOver about ati03:53
Hendikins|WorkQMario: Scrap Adblock and Flashblock03:53
unkn0wn2umodprobe -r removes usb-storage and its dependants03:53
mweGameOver: read what ubotu /msg'ed you03:53
Hendikins|WorkQMario: Adblock Plus and Noscript are a far better combination.03:53
unkn0wn2uamonkey, I forgot what else it removed03:53
amonkeyunkn0wn2u, ... that doesn't sound good03:53
amonkeyunkn0wn2u, suggestions?03:53
GameOverhey mwe... my card is 7500.. this says for cards over 950003:54
unkn0wn2uamonkey, reboot and then lsmod to show you what you need to modprobe back in , or wait while i ssh into my other computer for it03:54
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lordmundilooking for some install help03:54
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mweGameOver: oh I missed that sorry03:54
amonkeyunkn0wn2u, i'll take wait for 200 alex03:54
Hendikins|WorkQMario: Adblock is known to cause hangs and memory leaks in some versions of Firefox (including 1.5), and noscript gives you Javascript and Flash blocking in one handy package.03:54
QMarioHendikins|Work, I cannot find Adblock Plus.03:55
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QMarioHendikins|Work, okay.03:55
unkn0wn2uamonkey, do you have scsi_mod03:55
mweGameOver: In that case I don't know about 3d but it will provide at least 2d for you03:55
GameOverits ok... am i still going to be able to make it work03:55
GameOveroh03:55
GameOver:(03:55
amonkeyunkn0wn2u, yes03:55
Eugmancan anyone help me? I can't uninstall phpmyadmin.03:56
unkn0wn2uamonkey, how about usbcore03:56
Hendikins|WorkQMario: Adblock Plus is available at http://bene.sitesled.com/adblock.htm03:56
GameOveranother question... whenever i play mp3s.. it seems that if i play it slightly loud it sounds staticy03:56
GameOverlike its being played too loud..  but its reall ynot03:56
amonkeyunkn0wn2u, cheeck03:56
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alekandrShould see the smile on my face :] 03:57
GameOveranyone have an idea?03:57
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mweGameOver: there are some drivers listed at ati.com. I don't know if one of them will work with your card.03:57
alekandrI found webcams on the ubuntu wiki, and checked the supported models for easycam ( does all the installing )03:58
unkn0wn2uhuh i dont know03:58
alekandrBus 001 Device 002: ID 05a9:8519 OmniVision Technologies, Inc03:58
alekandrlsusb output03:58
Hendikins|WorkThat's one thing I've got it easy with03:58
Hendikins|WorkI use my TV tuner instead of a USB webcam03:58
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alekandrhttp://blognux.free.fr/Liste/ov519 // ID 05a9:8519 OmniVision Technologies, Inc.03:58
alekandrID 05a9:4519 OmniVision Technologies, Inc.03:58
alekandrsupported models :] 03:58
amonkeyunkn0wn2u, i'll just restart03:58
Hendikins|WorkBog standard bt878 card, absolutely no trouble whatsoever (-:03:58
unkn0wn2uamonkey, it worked for me03:59
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mweGameOver: did the wiki say 9500 or higher?03:59
GameOveryeah03:59
QMarioHendikins|Work, thank you for your assistance!!! :)03:59
mweGameOver: that needs to be fixed. it's 8500 or higher03:59
Ophiocushow can i remove an entry from the ndis drivers entry?03:59
GameOveroh03:59
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GameOverwell still im at 750003:59
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GameOverso should i not take the chance03:59
Hendikins|WorkQMario: Is it being better behaved?03:59
GameOverlast time i tried something i f'd up linux and had to reinstall04:00
B_166-ER-Xat install... can we put the /home partition in Fat32 ?04:00
lordmundilooking for some install help04:00
Hendikins|WorkAfter all, if you're still having the problem after those suggestions, I haven't been of any assistance.04:00
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unkn0wn2uGameOver, vesa04:00
Hendikins|Worklordmundi: The best way to get an answer is to ask a question :-)04:00
lordmundihaha.. k :)04:00
mweGameOver: I don't think it would be that bad, but I don't think the driver will work either04:00
GameOvervesa?04:00
GameOverwill one ever be released?04:00
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unkn0wn2uwhat04:01
GameOverwhats vesa unknown04:01
lordmundiwell, when I start the install of edubuntu, it cranks up and begins detecting hardware to locate cdroms... and then it loads various modules... but it hangs on "loading ide_cd" module.  I don't know hot to get it around this...04:01
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unkn0wn2uthat is what I had to use on my radeon 7500 the vesa drivers you might as well have a 20 year old video card in there04:02
cafuegoThere we go. Even !dstats now works again.04:02
QMarioHendikins|Work, yes, but not the Ubuntu version. :)04:02
GameOverso just forget about it then unknown?04:02
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concept10anyone know what package to use for GTK2 VLC?04:02
Hendikins|WorkQMario: So... what remains broken?04:02
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lordmundii looked through the boot options, and tried acpi=off... also noapic and nolapic... but still locks up on "loading ide_cd"04:02
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unkn0wn2ulordmundi, mv the kernel binaries like ide_cd to a different directory04:03
QMarioHendikins|Work, the Ubuntu version still temporarily freezes my computer, but the official release is just dandy.04:03
GameOverand when kubuntu is installed does it fat32 the HD, or NTFS it04:03
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michaelWhere can I dload Jon Sevy's AirPort/RC-1000 configurator?? - can't find a link that isn't broken04:03
lordmundi???  but I'm installing from a cd... ?04:03
mwelordmundi: boot from a live cd, mount the partition and blacklist the module and then try to figure out why it hangs at that point04:03
cafuego!es04:03
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:03
Hendikins|WorkQMario: Hrm. Interesting. Is it any better than it was with the older extensions, or just as bad?04:04
unkn0wn2ulordmundi, sorry04:04
Hendikins|WorkI've heard that the Ubuntu-supplied Firefox is rather slow in general.04:04
QMarioHendikins|Work, just as bad.04:04
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unkn0wn2ufirefox sucks04:04
Hendikins|Workunkn0wn2u: On what grounds?04:05
unkn0wn2uI'm still using mozilla because it uses half the memory04:05
unkn0wn2ufirefox uses 128meg wtf is that04:05
Hendikins|WorkI use the suite myself, but I would like actual solid criticism of the product.04:05
mweum it doesn't here04:05
GameOveranyone know if kubuntu formats the hd in fat32 or ntfs?04:05
cafuegoWhy does firefox suck just coz you're too tight to invest in ram? ;-)04:05
narleshow can i save email attachments to my desktop04:05
Hendikins|Workor because you won't set a fixed RAM cache size?04:05
mweand most of it is cached memory and will be freed if anything needs it04:06
Hendikins|Workunkn0wn2u: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=354828 may be of interest to you.04:06
cafuegoThats aid, my firefox uses 19Mb.04:06
unkn0wn2ucafuego, it doesn't offer anything mozilla doesn't have04:06
narleshow can i save email attachments to my desktop using lotus domino web access email04:06
cafuegounkn0wn2u: It's a LOT faster for me.04:06
Hendikins|Workunkn0wn2u: Actually, toolkit *does* offer stuff that xpfe doesn't. Why do you think the plan is to move SeaMonkey to toolkit?04:06
Eugmanunk0wn2u: what about the extensiblity?04:06
Hendikins|Workunkn0wn2u: and I *do* know what I'm talking about04:06
GameOverhow come ubuntu hasnt released a firefox 1.5 and thunderbird 1.5 version ye t??04:06
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Hendikins|WorkGameOver: Major Gecko upgrade breaks stuff that depends on the existing 1.0.704:07
cafuegoThere is no Thunderbird 1.504:07
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Hendikins|WorkBackporting would be non-trivial because of dependencies.04:07
holycowanyone here ever run into a breezy install where the hardware detection section cannot insmod ide module and hangs?04:07
cafuegoAnd Firefox 1.5 is in Dapper. Breezy won't get it, because it only gets ecurity fixes.04:07
holycowjust curious if this has been seen before04:07
GameOverso it will take some time... or we just wont see it released?04:07
EugmanE: phpmyadmin: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127 . ARGHHHHHHH04:07
mwecafuego: 19Mb ?! is that vsz or rss?04:08
tr011how secure is to move a laptop desktop with brezee to dapper ?04:08
cafuegomwe: SHR04:08
Hendikins|WorkGameOver: I doubt it will be backported. As I said, it would be non-trivial because of stuff depending on Gecko.04:08
cafuego40Mb res04:08
holycowtr00nd, why don'tyou wait until its officially released?04:08
mweok04:08
unkn0wn2uwhat I'm saying is why use firefox , mozilla is fine and it is more stable in my opinion04:08
GameOveri see04:08
GameOverhendikins... do u know if when kubuntu is installed... that the HD is formated in fat32 or ntfs04:09
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holycowGameOver, why the hell would anyoen spend time backporting firefox when dapper is 3 months away?04:09
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bob832how can i zip a directory from the command line?04:09
Hendikins|Workunkn0wn2u: Toolkit provides some benefits in both extensibility and usability. There is also the argument not having code you don't need floating around.04:09
unkn0wn2utar -czvf04:09
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tr011dapper04:09
navaroneevening folks04:09
holycowGameOver, neither, linux doesn't use any ms file systems by default04:09
tr011!dapper04:09
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.04:09
GameOveroh i wasnt sure04:09
holycowGameOver, moreover, it cannot use ntfs, that is proprietary04:09
holycowGameOver, no one in their right mind would use fat3204:10
GameOverthanks04:10
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GameOverno i know04:10
Hendikins|Workunkn0wn2u: and I don't use Firefox myself, but as I said, give me solid criticism and I'll wear it. You're not providing any.04:10
GameOverjust had to ask04:10
Niko-formerlyEagwhere does mplayer keep its codecs in ubuntu?  it doesn't seem to have a standard directory like when you install from source04:10
holycowno worries, just rounding out your knowledge :)04:10
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mondianyone here using dapper and updated just now?04:10
tr011deam! 4 months!!!! i will need to wait :P there is nothing in ubuntu like 'debian sid' ?04:10
unkn0wn2uHendikins, well if you don't use it then you already know04:10
mondijust wanna ask if the updates didn't do any damage..04:10
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GameOverdoes anyone know if staroffice is that much better than openoffice?04:10
George__i fooked, i transfered my ODT document to another pc and it's corrupted. WHere I have 2 go to get some help?04:11
George__I feel like saying "f" to openoffice right now04:11
Hendikins|Workunkn0wn2u: My reasons for not using Firefox have nothing to do with anything that has been brought up in this channel.04:11
holycowmondi, what the heck do you mean damage? you are installing alpha software, why would you not expect complete loss of data?04:11
tr011GameOver, is more Microsoft Office style04:11
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mondiI meant if it didn't crash the system or something04:11
michaelWhat can I use to connect to my airport basestation??04:11
GameOverstaroffice?04:11
MunchkinguyHello04:11
michaelne1, please04:12
George__HELLPPP04:12
George__Please04:12
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mweGeorge__: don't be lame04:12
Hendikins|Workunkn0wn2u: I am also quite high up in the IRC and forum support chains for Firefox... and that doesn't happen without knowing the ropes.04:12
holycowGeorge__, there is no difference, star office just comes with spelling and grammar dictionaries and some other proprietary components04:12
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RedRosewhat is the name of an IRC deamon?04:12
unkn0wn2uHendikins, well you must have a reason for not using it and I have a lot of reasons mainly I don't like flaky code04:12
RedRosethat you can use with ubuntu?04:12
unkn0wn2uey>04:12
GameOverso it woudlnt be worth it then?... just stick with open office?04:13
cafuegoRedRose: apt-cache search ircd04:13
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tr011yes... well the lastest version of open office is pretty much like ms office... but.. who cares about that, open office simply works.. and that's fine for me,04:13
Hendikins|Workunkn0wn2u: My main reason is that the suite suits me (and I've used it for over 6 years now). No more, no less.04:13
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tamaleI just tried creating a my raid5 array in mdadm and every device set off the error message "Device or resource busy"04:13
George__WORKS!04:13
tamalehow can i get around this04:13
jrodhello04:13
George__IT CORRUPTED 20 OF MY 40 FREAKEN DOCUMENTS04:13
holycowGeorge__, no chances are you corrupted them04:13
unkn0wn2uHendikins, is mozilla-mail gone now?04:13
holycowprimarily by not keeping backups ....04:13
George__lol me!04:14
George__holycow how is that possible04:14
George__THIS IS MY PAPERS FOR MY FREAKEN school teaching etc04:14
Hendikins|Workunkn0wn2u: SeaMonkey mail hasn't gone anywhere. I use it on a daily basis at work.04:14
Hendikins|Work(and home)04:14
holycowGeorge__, is it worth it? why would you ask that question? if its worth it for you depends on whether you feel the components are worth paying for04:14
George__ahahha me ruin it HOW!04:14
doogluswhat is the name of the process which draws the gnome menus "applications", "places" and "system"?04:14
George__what? WORTH IT, THESE FILES MEAN A LOT04:14
whatwhati new to unbunto this is cool :p apears to be more easy then they say about linux04:14
unkn0wn2uHendikins, what repo is that in?04:14
MonkeyLinuxwhatwhat ubuntu is linux04:15
holycowGeorge__, well based on your questions here, you are neither prepared to handle software nor inclined to learn how.  you just switched to linux without keeping backups?04:15
whatwhatno need to configure the internet and everything04:15
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Hendikins|Workunkn0wn2u: I would have no idea. I don't use Ubuntu. I'm here to assist with Firefox support/docs.04:15
MonkeyLinuxlol atleast a distro of it, with many skilled hands to make it more automated than most distro's04:15
whatwhatMonkeuLinux :p04:15
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George__what?04:15
Xenguyhi - how can I find out the module name for my sound card?04:15
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coletHi all - I don't suppose anybody here has attached a Coraid AOE box to there Ubuntu system before?04:16
whatwhathow can i copy text in xchat ? :\04:16
tamalehello, I just tried creating a my raid5 array in mdadm and every device set off the error message "Device or resource busy"04:16
tamalehow can i get around this04:16
holycowwhatwhat, just highlight then go to new document and middle click04:16
Hendikins|Workwhatwhat: selecting and middle-clicking in target app works well04:16
MunchkinguyWhat are the system requirements for Ubuntu?04:16
whatwhatok i will try04:16
holycowMunchkinguy, anything over a p400 and a supported chipset/vidcard/components04:16
navaronewhatwhat you can highlight and ctrl+c04:17
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whatwhatit works thanks :p04:17
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MonkeyLinuxholycow now thats funny04:17
George__help!04:17
George__what is this gay aspci or wtf it is!04:17
George__ASCII... why it happen?!04:17
holycowMonkeyLinux, what is funny?04:17
psusihell, you can run ubuntu on a 486SX/25 if you want... just shut off the gui ;)04:17
Hendikins|WorkGeorge__: It would help if you could ask us a question of some sort.04:17
cvt|kdeanyone have a flawless media playing setup?04:17
cafuegoMunchkinguy: P2/300+, 64+MB ram for X (lighteight desktop managers), less for just command line.04:17
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Hendikins|Workcvt|kde: CrossOver works well... ;-)04:18
MonkeyLinuxI had ubuntu working fine on a 486/DX204:18
holycowGeorge__, if i may recommend that you save your self the hassle and just go back to windows, your life will be a lot easier04:18
cafuegoMunchkinguy: For Gnome, probably a 500+MHz box with 256Mb ram *absolute minimum*04:18
George__WEll My Openoffice FILE got CORRUPTED I'm on XP RIght now cant open!04:18
MonkeyLinuxwith minimal gui of course04:18
jnymowhats that auto sources.list generator sight for ubuntu?04:18
jnymos/sight/site04:18
holycowMonkeyLinux, *cough* bullshit *cough* .... and i've run ubuntu on some low end hardware04:18
Munchkinguycafuego: thank you04:18
George__holycow: it doesn't matter shit to me about what I'm on04:18
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George__i can't open the file why?04:18
navaroneGeorge do you use ubuntu or open office in windows?04:18
George__OPen office04:19
holycowa 486/dx2 cant even handle more than 32 megs of ram  ... if you mean server thats not even a consideration04:19
Hendikins|WorkGeorge__: Would it kill you to be polite?04:19
George__KOASJdizxnc04:19
George__sorrry04:19
MonkeyLinuxcought whatever u want. hell you can run ubuntu on ur toaster if your up to the task04:19
coletholy_cow:  Sure it can - I used to have one running with a whopping 64MB.  8)04:19
navaroneGeorge this channel does not support windows based problem George04:19
George__IT ANIT WINDOWS04:19
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George__it's OPENoffice and UBUNTU04:19
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jnymono yelling allowed04:20
holycowcolet, how long did it take you to find that many simms?04:20
holycow:)04:20
cafuegoGeorge__: Boot ubuntu, try to open file file.04:20
George__I DO NOT get what the heck happend04:20
George__i cant04:20
cvt|kdewhat's a CrossOver?04:20
navaroneGeorge has it affected your cap lock as well...?04:20
George__O ya04:20
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cafuegoGeorge__: Can't what? Boot Ubuntu?04:20
George__anyway, yah i cant open it for crap04:20
Hendikins|Workcvt|kde: Commercial wine distro. Allows you to use Win32 browser plugins.04:20
MonkeyLinuxhe cant open a document04:20
George__Openoffice f'ked me!04:20
Kr0ntabwut up peoples04:20
George__waaa04:20
coletIt only took 4 simms - just bought 'em at a local computer show.  Of course, this was about 8-9 years ago too.  *Only* cost me about $80 per simm.  ;)04:20
psusiGeorge__, in ubuntu or windows?04:20
George__both04:21
holycowcolet,  :)04:21
psusiGeorge__, what do you mean you can't open it?  what happens?04:21
cafuegoGeorge__: Well, unzip the document, see what's in there.04:21
George__ASPCII or something filter04:21
Hendikins|Workcvt|kde: mplayer seems to be the preferred choice around here, I don't have much of a chance to play with streaming stuff.04:21
George__it's a odt document04:21
MonkeyLinuxhe cant open a document created in winblows in ubuntu is what I gather04:21
cafuegoGeorge__: copy foo.odt foo.zip; double click foo.zip04:21
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George__ASCII FILTER is the thing that pops up04:21
George__that doesnt work either04:21
coletI don't suppose anybody here has attached a Coraid AOE box to their Ubuntu system before?04:21
coletI'm trying to get pvcreate to recognize the drive and it won't see it.04:22
john_How do I change every file in a directory to upper-case?04:22
psusiGeorge__, did you save this file from open office in ubuntu?04:22
George__what i do with ziP?04:22
George__yes04:22
George__ys04:22
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psusiGeorge__, double click on the .zip04:22
George__yes04:22
insomndany ideas on how i can increase column size in netstat? the IP6 address doesnt fit04:22
cvt|kdeHendikins, i play a ridiculous amount of videos and audio files. it takes vlc, xine, totem, mplayer, etc. to play all the file types i have04:22
cvt|kdebut i get lots of errors and failures04:22
navaroneGeorge perhaps you need to add a filter of being capable of saving filetype? Or maybe you need to select different one?04:22
George__! EPfh EPH  is what i get on document! and I click invalid arch04:22
George__what?04:23
George__it's odt04:23
Hendikins|Workcvt|kde: Maybe CrossOver would be a worthwhile investment then? I don't know.04:23
whatwhatubunto run divx movies ?04:23
holycowGeorge__, odt is just a zip file dude04:23
George__odt?04:23
holycowwith lots of xml files in it04:23
cafuegoodt is a zipped XML file.04:23
George__ODT = ZIP!?04:23
holycowcorrecto04:23
cvt|kdeHendikins|Work, i'll look into it for sure thx04:23
George__ok... so how i get my XML file?04:23
cafuegoLike I said, unzip it.04:23
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psusiGeorge__, we've been telling you...rename it to a .zip and unzip it04:23
holycowunzip it, open it up with an unzip file04:23
George__I cant04:23
holycowprogram04:24
George__Invalid arch04:24
Hendikins|Workcvt|kde: It isn't perfect either, but you may have more luck using the Win32 apps/plugins.04:24
JarG0nbutcherbird> iKernel> Thank you for your help.  Gnome is loaded (and more importantly VISIBLE!).04:24
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cafuegoGeorge__: Maybe you can try being  abit more useful with you rerror reports.04:24
George__I CANT, is what i been saing04:24
George__ok04:24
holycowGeorge__, we know, your screwed04:24
George__i click it , and says invalid blah bla04:24
holycowgo back to windows and bug those guys04:24
cafuego'mv' never says "Invalid arch".04:24
ocletso um04:24
jnymosource-o-matic! that's it.. thank god04:24
ocletanyone wanna help me w/ my dhcpd issues?04:24
oclet:)04:24
George__the archive is damaged04:24
holycowoclet, just ask04:25
ocletalready did04:25
George__umm the archieve is either in unkown format or damaged.04:25
George__Linux says it cant be opened04:25
cafuegoGeorge__: Well, that would be why1) OOo can't open it and 2) Zip can't open it.04:25
sethkor both04:25
psusiGeorge__, what does "file foo.odt" say?04:25
oclet18:45 < oclet> i'm trying to setup dhcpd04:25
oclet18:45 < oclet> so that it routes04:25
oclet18:45 < oclet> internet from my wireless04:25
oclet18:45 < oclet> through my hub to a desktop04:25
oclet18:46 < oclet> this is becoming more of a hassle than i thought it would be04:25
oclet18:46 < oclet> my desktop is getting an ip04:25
oclet18:46 < oclet> but it isnt getting online04:25
ocletthe desktop is windows04:25
cafuegooclet: Stop spamming!04:25
thedcmomg04:25
George__i anit on linux :(04:25
cafuego!ops04:25
thedcmomg04:25
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thedcmomg04:25
George__ah crack04:25
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George__why does god have to be so mean 2 me04:25
john_How can I change the title of every file in a directory to upper-case?04:25
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thedcmwat04:25
AmaranthYes?04:25
thedcmwat04:25
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MunchkinguyOne more question...04:25
ocletso04:25
Hendikins|Workoclet: Please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting in future - people get annoyed by large amounts of text being dumped in the channel.04:26
thedcmno u r04:26
holycowGeorge__, then you are in the wrong place, go ask somewhere else04:26
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ajmitchoclet: never, ever do that again04:26
johndarkhorseoclet: use a pastebin next time04:26
ocletok whatever04:26
cafuegoAmaranth: oclet is pasting aliiitle bit too much04:26
Munchkinguyis there an Ubuntu live CD version that I can download?04:26
thedcmwat04:26
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ocletcan anyone help04:26
ocletwith my problem?04:26
thedcmwat04:26
George__so it has nothing 2 do with Ubuntu at all04:26
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ocletkinda04:26
ocleti'm using ubuntu04:26
ocletand its not working04:26
holycowMunchkinguy, indeed, check the website04:26
psusiMunchkinguy, yes, take a look at the download section on the web site04:26
cafuegoGeorge__: Soiunds like an OOo problem.04:26
sethkoclet, you have to ask a specific question04:26
ocleti did04:26
Amaranthoclet: is the computer getting an IP, gateway, and dns?04:26
thedcmwat04:26
ocletAmaranth: yes04:27
ocletwell not dns04:27
ocletbecause the dns server is automatically obtained from the isp04:27
Amaranthoclet: can you get to IP addresses?04:27
thedcmwat04:27
ocletno?04:27
thedcmwat04:27
ocletyes the desktop is getting an ip04:27
MonkeyLinuxGeorge__ nope just has something to do with you, its all your fault...lol just kidding, seriously check the web for OpenOffice support groups04:27
thedcmheh04:27
ocletbut its just not getting online04:27
whatwhathow can i open divx movies in linux?04:27
holycowGeorge__ so it has nothing 2 do with Ubuntu at all04:27
holycow* RocketRanch (n=RocketRa@pcp0012137671pcs  <-- awesome  now go ask someone who can actually help you04:27
thedcmwat04:27
mwethe dash is not needed with tar04:27
Munchkinguyexcellent! Thanks a lot04:27
thedcmomg04:27
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Amaranthoclet: can it get to http://64.233.187.9904:27
ocletthe desktop?04:28
thedcmwat04:28
ocletlemme check04:28
ocletplz hold04:28
thedcmnO!04:28
Amaranthoclet: ok04:28
navarone] 04:28
ocletAmaranth: no04:28
ocleti was testing it earlier by pinging www.cisco.com04:28
Amaranthoclet: can you ping the router?04:28
thedcmwat04:28
George__gosh04:28
George__is there anything i can try04:28
George__i need this file04:28
ocletAmaranth: my laptop is my router04:28
Amaranthoclet: if you don't have DNS cisco.com won't work, only IP addresses04:28
ocletin this case04:28
Amaranthoclet: can it ping the laptop?04:29
thedcmwat04:29
ocletyes04:29
ocletlike i said04:29
George__what04:29
ocletlet me re-explain04:29
Amaranthoclet: i dunno after that04:29
ocleti have cable internet, thats going into a wireless router, my laptop is running ubuntu and getting online w/out any problems04:29
Amaranth!info ip_masquerade04:29
thedcmomg04:29
Amaranthhrm04:29
ocleti'm trying to get my desktop (windows)04:30
ocletonline through the network port04:30
ocleton my laptop04:30
holycowcan someone kick thedcm ? i think its a bot04:30
thedcmwat04:30
navaronethecdm are you ok?04:30
thedcmwat04:30
thedcmlol yeah04:30
MonkeyLinuxGeorge__ we told you, check OpenOffice support groups04:30
Amaranthoclet: install the ipmasq package04:30
George__I am04:30
George__WHat GROUPS?!04:30
thedcmomg04:30
George__the forums?04:30
thedcmwat04:30
George__a irc channel?04:30
thedcmwat04:30
ocletAmaranth: hold on04:30
holycowsecondly can someone kick George__ ?04:30
thedcmwat04:30
mweoclet: why are you trying to make windows go through the laptop instead of the wireless router?04:30
thedcmwat04:30
ocletmwe: yes04:30
Amaranththedcm: Are you a bot?04:30
thedcmwat04:30
ocletmy desktop is getting an ip04:30
thedcmAmaranth: no.04:30
holycowit's not helpfull to the conversation04:31
holycowerrr ... help04:31
MonkeyLinuxgo to http://www.openoffice.org/ or use google04:31
ocletso the dhcp is working04:31
Amaranththedcm: say 'wat' one more time an i'll ban you04:31
thedcmnou04:31
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George__i am04:31
thedcmxd yeah right04:31
thedcmprove it NIGGER04:31
desrtGeorge__; hey man04:31
George__yes04:31
desrtGeorge__; long time no see04:31
ocleti've used google to the extent of where i'm frustrated04:31
desrtGeorge__; what's up?04:31
jbroomebuh-bye04:31
thedcmwat04:31
ocletno?04:31
thedcmwat04:31
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George__lol04:31
thedcmheh04:31
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michaelk, howto install degconf through term?04:31
George__umm04:31
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Amaranthstupid lag04:31
=== George__ lol
holycowthanku04:32
ocletAmaranth: so ipmasq is just dhcp04:32
MonkeyLinuxcause George__ since its an openoffice issue we cannot assist you here04:32
ocletam i wrong?04:32
George__where I GO!04:32
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oclet19:30 < mwe> oclet: why are you trying to make windows go through the laptop instead of the wireless router?04:32
oclet^because it doesnt have a wireless card04:32
ocletin this room04:32
MonkeyLinuxyou'll have to use one of the support options at http://www.openoffice.org/ or google it04:32
George__they anit helping04:32
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AmaranthGeorge__: We can't help either.04:33
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oclet;(04:33
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George__WHAT THE 231404:33
SapentisNice to see you outside efnet.04:33
George__u put software in there but dont help04:33
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psusiTHANK GOD04:33
MonkeyLinuxty daniels04:33
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holycowfinally04:33
holycowthanku04:33
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Amaranthdaniels: heh, i was trying to at least point him in the right direction first04:34
holycowAmaranth, dude he didn't want to be pointed04:34
ocletAmaranth: any ideas?04:34
psusihe got WAY more patience than was deserved04:34
holycowyou told him liek 12 times to go to openoffice.org04:34
Amaranthoclet: did you install ipmasq?04:34
danielsAmaranth: ahr.  i was asked about it in #ubuntu-devel, and when I saw WHAT THE 2314 I thought he was just a spammer.  heh.04:34
MonkeyLinuxi swear some people keep getting dumber by the second.04:34
frenchyhey guys whenever i play a video in mplayer and go to full screen it just fills up the empty space with black space, anyone know how i can make it really fyll screen?04:34
ocletAmaranth: doesnt dhcpd do ip masquerading04:34
whatwhatcan linux open divx movies to ?04:34
Amaranthno04:34
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ocletoh04:34
Amaranthdhcpd assigns IP addresses04:34
ocletright04:34
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Amaranthipmasq sets up iptables to do simple web routing04:35
ocletso i mean its seeing my laptop but nothing beyond it04:35
ocletoh gotcha04:35
ocleti have iptables04:35
MonkeyLinuxeigherway daniels we told him many times what his options were for support, we just wanted everything handed to him on a silver platter04:35
john_How can I change the title of every file in a directory to upper-case?04:35
danielsAmaranth: looks like you've got it all under control.  sorry for intruding into your territory, had no idea you were here.  enjoy.04:35
Amaranthoclet: everyone does :P04:35
frenchyanyone?04:35
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ocletok04:35
Amaranthoclet: ipmasq configures iptables04:35
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akanthey all I have a question on compiling source04:36
navaronefrenchy what vidcard are you using?04:36
frenchygeforce 6800 go on my laptop04:36
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Amaranth!nvidia04:37
ubotuwell, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736804:37
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Hendikins|WorkMonkeyLinux: There's few things in support that really piss me off. People who won't help themselves are one of them. People who invalidly criticise a product are another.04:37
Amaranth!info xorg-driver-nvidia04:37
johndarkhorseubotu: tell akant about compile04:37
frenchyis this a vid card issue though?04:37
navaronefrenchy possibly04:37
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billytwowillySo I'm trying to stream video from my ubuntu file server to an xbox running xbox media center and a windows xp box. When I stream video on both I get jittery video and then the video halts.04:37
billytwowillyAny suggestions on tweaking samba for streaming?04:37
frenchyi have a 6800 on my pc and it doesnt do this04:38
Hendikins|WorkMonkeyLinux: and I've been doing FOSS support since 2001.04:38
holycowbillytwowilly, you shouldn't need samba to stream04:38
Amaranthbillytwowilly: sounds like a bandwidth isue04:38
Amarantherr, issue04:38
MonkeyLinuxnice04:38
holycowsamba is only used for file sharing04:38
billytwowillyIt's a 10/100 network.04:38
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billytwowillyyah, it's sharing the drive that the windows xp box and xbmc are trying to play the video off of.04:38
holycowbillytwowilly, are you trying to open up the file directly over samba via smbfs file sharing?04:38
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holycowah i see, *hmmm* not sure, i've always found those sorts of things flaky, i don't havy an04:39
billytwowillyholycow, pretty much. served on the ubuntu box and opened on the windows xp and xbmc box.04:39
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Amaranthholycow: he is sharing a dir with the video in it on a windows network04:39
holycowany usefull tips for you unfortunately04:39
Xnoshi everybody04:39
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akantI know this might sound basic, but I have a *.c file which I need to compile.  In the file are some referenced header files (fcntl.h, sys/ioctl.h, sys/stat.h, sys/types.h, stdlib.h, ..etc) are these from the kernel source?04:40
ajmitchakant: no, libc6-dev04:40
ajmitchakant: it's best to install build-essential04:40
holycowbillytwowilly, additionally that is a very specific samba question, you ought to look for samba gurus out there for that particular issue04:41
billytwowillyI also posted in #samba;)04:41
billytwowillyerr, messaged.04:41
holycowkida quite eh? :)04:41
Xnossomeone knows a tool for join mpeg files04:41
Xnosto one04:41
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nteryou can use cat to join mpg04:42
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Xnosok thanks nter04:43
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nterxnos: try cat file1.mpg file2.mpg >new.mpg but it won't work of avis04:43
paulproteusnter: mplayer might be able to do it.04:43
paulproteusMplayer can do nearly everything....04:43
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runxctrycan you get the mplayer video window to stay-onn-top?04:44
nterprobably can I was able to join mpegs that way but it doesn't work for .avi and .wmv04:44
runxctryso i can watch a movie while i am working??04:44
akantthank you again04:44
runxctry(sorry off topic)04:44
holycowrunedude, right click on the window thingy and select on top04:44
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holycowrunxctry, yeah you can run lots of stuff simultaneously for the most part04:45
ocletAmaranth: sorry to be annoying but do u know where to find a good (up to date) doc on ipmasq04:45
ocleti cant find any that arent for old kernels04:45
ocletand such04:45
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Amaranthoclet: oh, whoops04:45
Sapentisoclet, do you go to EFnet?04:46
Amaranthoclet: you'll have to do a lot of reading on iptables then04:46
Amaranthi could have sworn ipmasq setup iptables04:46
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ocletSapentis: yeh04:46
SapentisWe've met previously then.04:46
Sapentis:)04:46
ocletwhat channels04:47
Sapentis#!phrack, #phrack.04:47
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vircuseri need help04:48
ocletwerd04:48
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iKernelvircuser: Tip: Ask your question.04:48
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vircuserikernel thanks i'm typing04:48
ilba7rtwo days not trying to set dmix any ideas04:48
jamiehey, I am new to Ubuntu, I have used gentoo for years, and at one point used Debian. I have always used Alsa, however the install defaulted to enlightenment sound demon which is better04:48
runxctrywe're talking about "mplayer osx 2" right04:49
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runxctryCopyright 2002-2003 Jan Volf, GUI elements created and binaries compiled by Jan Devera.04:49
iKernelrunxctry: This is #ubuntu, not ##mac.04:49
akantwould the gentleman who just msged me in regard to the build package please send me the name again... I lost your name and the package name when irc prg quit ;) lol04:49
poningrujamie: depends upon what you prefer04:50
poningrujamie: you can change it04:50
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iKerneljamie: And?04:50
poningrusystem->preference->multimedia selecter04:50
jamieponingru, what advantages are there one to the other. any info on it. Tks but I know how to change, just wondering about benefits04:51
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runxctryoh crap04:51
akantwas that package called build essentials?04:51
runxctrysorry, i'm installing both04:51
akant:D04:51
runxctryhaha04:51
poningrujamie: I think one of them doesnt allow playing of more than two sounds or something04:51
poningruerr more than sound sources04:51
timfrostakant, build-essential04:52
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iKerneljamie: Esd lets multiple apps play sound at once.04:52
jamieponingru, I remember something about firefox issues, sounds screwing up, just dont remember which04:52
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jamieiKernel, thank you04:52
vircuserikernel, i loaded live cd ubuntu, i have sbc dsl, during install network device was noticed (i have a usb adapter for my hpna network) in my network tools - network devices it shows "loopback interface" but the configure button is shaded. now in the network setting it show modem connection - interface ppp0 not configured. i have a modem but not using it for dsl. hpna lets my 2nd and 3rd computer access modem/router combo from04:52
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alekandrhow do i open a filename.c program for use in term04:53
alekandrlike to run it04:53
alekandrgcc filename.c ?04:53
ilba7riKernel, i do not think so try opening two totem files04:53
ilba7riKernel, it will not work with esd04:53
iKernelilba7r: sif04:53
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ilba7riKernel, explain sif do not underst abbrev04:54
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vircuserikernel look at message from vircuser04:54
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iKernelvircuser: Dunno.04:54
poningrujamie: just test it out you know04:54
edoardoyou guys? do you know anythin' about gnome-volume-manager? it won't see my usb key04:55
edoardohelp?04:55
poningrujamie: just use one for couple of days, see if you like it, use the other one04:55
vircuseranyone using sbc dsl with ubuntu?04:55
jamieponingru, I will tks. Just have been so set in my ways with gentoo you know04:55
DShepherdalekandr: vi filename.c maybe04:55
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alekandrthat opens it for editing04:56
runxctryvircuser -- yes, but i have a router providing routing04:56
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poningrujamie: true04:56
runxctryno ppoe04:56
bob832edoardo:  i have a similar problem with my volume key. . . not sure how to fix it though04:56
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iKernelppp0 is adsl gateway interface vircuser.04:56
iKernelso that would be what you want.04:56
holycowedoardo, check wiki.ubuntu.org ... that is a know problem with breezy.  there are some solutions available on some threads potentially but the general rule of thumb on the issue is wait for dapper, its getting fixed there04:56
edoardowuteva04:56
edoardoholy_cow, oh really?04:57
poningrualekandr: its ./foobar.c04:57
vircuserhow can i configure it ikernel04:57
holycowreally04:57
timfrostalekandr, gcc -o binary-name filename.c04:57
iKernelvircuser: Try installing ubuntu instead of running it off the live cd (may take a while to install).04:57
alekandryeah, i did that timfrost , thanks app built04:57
alekandrponingru: only if you chmod a+x04:57
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poningrualekandr: yeah ofcourse04:58
poningruyou dont want to do that?04:58
vircuserikernel thanks, r u saying the install feature is better than the live?04:58
iKernelvircuser: Depends. Live feature is purely for testing.04:58
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iKernelvircuser: And live feature is definatly slower.04:59
edoardoholy_cow, can't find anythin' : (04:59
edoardo: )04:59
alekandrhow do i un 'modprobe'04:59
Hentai^XPworkHello, is unix permissions the only thing ubuntu uses for permissions on files and directorys?04:59
alekandrsomething04:59
vircuseri was wondering why it was so slow i was just thinking man should i leave xp for this?04:59
iKernelalekandr: Terminal, of course!04:59
alekandryeah04:59
iKernelalekandr: sudo -s, type in your password04:59
alekandrok...05:00
alekandrim logged in as root05:00
holycowvircuser, you do understand that you are running the from a CD ROM?05:00
holycowright?05:00
alekandrman, i never log out :] 05:00
alekandrsup05:00
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iKernelalekandr: Now, what driver did you want to load?05:00
DShepherdvircuser: you are running a live cd?05:00
alekandrmodprobe ov511 iKernel05:00
holycowyou do know that a 7200 rpm drive is oh 98% faster than cd rom?05:00
holycowvircuser, how can you not expect it to be slow?05:00
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cafuegoholycow: what cdrom?05:01
iKernelalekandr: This better not be the DSE webcam...05:01
ortnerhmm, how do i check whats my account and such if i forgot that information on my mysql server? :/05:01
holycowcafuego, hes running a ubuntu live and mentioning that it's slow05:01
alekandriKernel: oh man, you caught me05:01
cafuegoholycow: <heh> yes05:01
dooglusthis is a funny bug report: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2216005:01
alekandriKernel: i cant seem to get it to use /dev/video*05:01
iKernelalekandr: Don't use that piece of crap.05:02
alekandromnivision ov519 chip05:02
alekandrman, its all i got ok05:02
goosehow does one do power management on ubuntu? spinning down hard disks and such?05:02
cafuegovircuser: Running off cd is infuriatingly slow. Off harddisk it will be at leasta s fast as, but probably fater than, WinXP.05:02
iKernelalekandr: That webcam was something like 50 dollars australian? Genuis webcam is better05:02
vircusercafuego really faster than xp05:02
alekandriKernel: I know i know, but i cant be asked to go out and look for another webcam, that linux supports05:02
cafuegovircuser: Certainly is for me.05:03
alekandriKernel: i want to unload the module and reload it05:03
DShepherddooglus: that person who made that report needs a dictionary05:03
alekandrtook me forever to find out my usb controllers are ehci-hcd05:03
alekandrand not uhci or ohci05:04
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cafuegoalekandr: usb2 eh?05:04
iKernelalekandr: modprobe -r ov51105:04
alekandrcafuego: what is?05:04
iKernelalekandr: then, modprobe ov51105:04
alekandrmy controllers?05:04
cafuegoalekandr: ehci05:04
alekandriKernel: !! :)05:04
iKernelalekandr: make sure you do modprobe videodev05:04
alekandryeah05:04
cafuegoalekandr: ohci and uhci are usb 1.105:04
iKernelalekandr: and modprobe video05:04
Hentai^XPworkIs unix permissions the only thing ubuntu uses for permissions on files and directorys?05:04
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cafuegoHentai^XPwork: You can also use acls.05:05
cafuegoHentai^XPwork: and attrib settings05:05
vircusercafuego wow, thats good i just saw a new distro by mahummad haggar called bingootoo or something i noticed it had a pane on the right side of the screen with the cpu speed and temp and other cool stuff does ubuntu has this?05:05
cafuegovircuser: if you want it to display that info, you certainly can.05:05
cafuegomine just displays it next to the clock in the top panel05:06
vircusercafuego how?05:06
alekandr[4426535.300000]  usbcore: registered new driver ov51105:06
alekandr[4426535.300000]  /usr/share/EasyWebcam/ov511-2.30/ov511_core.c: v2.30 : ov511 USB Camera Driver (V4L2 disabled)05:06
dooglusDShepherd: really?  it looked ok-ish to me05:06
Hentai^XPworkcafuego and how can I use these ACLs?05:06
alekandrWhoo!05:06
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cafuegovircuser: By adding the right application/utility. probably 'gkrellm'.05:06
cafuego!dstats05:06
ubotuUbuntu Distro Stats on breezy... 18229 packages, 1641 maintainers, 35937 MB installed size, 11172 MB compressed size.05:07
Hentai^XPworkis everything needed there cafuego ?05:07
alekandrcafuego: if someone had told me ages ago that usb 2 was ehci id have kissed them05:07
cafuegovircuser: There are 18,229 different tools and apps all package sup, it's unlikely you'll need something that hasn't been processed for you :-)05:07
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alekandri suppose testing video0 would be cat /dev/video0?05:07
vircusercafuego, sup is the app loader or something?05:08
cafuegoHentai^XPwork: You'll need the acl tools (no idea what they're called). I'm fairly sure they're enabled on ext2/ext3 by default.05:08
cafuego!find lsacl05:08
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holycowcafuego, you know, strangely that is the truth, i have rarely needed anything that wasnt already in a repo05:08
poningruand there are so many things that are not on the repos05:09
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ubotuUbuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'lsacl' returned no results.05:09
cafuegoholycow: Obviously you're not a Gentoo user. ;-)05:09
holycow*cough* *giggle* :)05:10
alekandriKernel: apparently its supposed to be /dev/video or /dev/video0 which its not :(05:10
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Hentai^XPworkcafuego so the tools need aren't there in the standard distro at all05:11
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cafuegoHentai^XPwork: They are, just not *installed* by default, I imagine.05:11
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Hentai^XPworkso how would I install them?05:11
cafuego!info acl05:11
ubotuacl: (Access control list utilities), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 2.2.29-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 45 kB, Installed size: 184 kB05:12
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cafuegosudo apt-get install acl05:12
nemikso what is that key-reading command line program thing? xen? xin?05:12
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brownie17ca anyone tell me why i get this error when trying to convert an mpg file to vcd using mencoder? File not found: 'frameno.avi'05:13
Hentai^XPworkcafuego so in other wards no tthere like I thought05:14
cafuegoHentai^XPwork: Seems to contact 'getfacl', 'setfacl' and 'chacl'.05:14
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persianemik: If you're looking for X key info, you might try xev.  I don't know of something for console.05:14
cafuegoHentai^XPwork: What do you mean? It's in the 'universe' repository.05:14
cafuegoHentai^XPwork: I just now installed it, works fine.05:14
Hentai^XPworkas in05:15
iKernelalekandr: If you do modprobe video && modprobe videodev, it should create the devices (video0, video1 etc)05:15
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Hentai^XPworkwhen you a regular ubuntu isntall cafuego05:15
cafuegoHentai^XPwork: Indeed.05:15
nemikpersia: xev! that's it! thank you05:16
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cafuegoXev was also in 'Lexx'!05:16
vircusercafuego, how many linux do u have? r u dual boot? or just ubuntu?05:16
iKernelalekandr: but seriously, I have never gotton that chip to work under linux. genuis videocam messenger, whoop! works like a charm.05:16
iKernelbit dark tho05:16
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alekandriKernel: linkage?05:16
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cafuegovircuser: I have used quite a lot. Currently I only have Ubuntu (i386 and ppc), Debian sarge (i386) and Slackware 3.0.05:17
CuriousCathello!05:17
bloodcan anyone tell me about xlibs?05:17
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CuriousCatCan someone point to me the URL on how to make my wifi card work on ubuntu using ndiswrapper?05:17
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Madpilot!wifi05:18
ubotusomebody said wifi was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto05:18
Madpilot!wireless05:18
ubotumethinks wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards05:18
paulproteus!ndiswrapper05:18
ubotuI heard ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper05:18
tkupI have just changed all references to hoary in my /etc/apt/sources.list file to breezy and ran sudo apt-get update a couple of times. I have rebooted the system since it broke my wireless connection. Now that I'm back to my X session and wireless is working fine should I run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? I just want to avoid nasty results.05:18
blood!xlibs05:18
ubotublood: I give up, what is it?05:18
iKernelalekandr: http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html05:18
poningrutkup: yes you should do that05:18
iKernelalekandr: the website is designed like s**t, but the driver works.05:19
vircusercafuego, ive been researching and reading for about 2 weeks now. debian, xandros and ubuntu come top list, however i just muhammed haggar "the egyptian" new linux and it's visually appealing , have u heard of it it's bin......go something.05:19
bloodi donno i need it apparently05:19
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iKernelalekandr: but, alas, there is no video0 created. Works under gnomemeeting, tho05:19
HaiKarateCuriousCat : not only could somebody point you, but *two somebodys* and a somebody wannabe! how's that for free support?!05:19
tkupponingru, should I expect any nastiness?05:19
CuriousCatthank you!!! :D05:19
holycowvircuser, well first things first, there is never such a thing as a 'new linux'05:20
vircuserholycow thanks05:20
MadpilotHaiKarate: as is often the case, the bot did most of the work! :P05:20
holycowsecond all distros are just repackaged and reconfigured packages that all distros have access to05:20
vircuserholycow i see thanks05:20
persiaWould someone be willing to help me troubleshoot the disappearance of my /dev/input/js0 device with the recent udev change?  I'm not sure what info would be useful for a bug report.05:20
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holycowthird, if you are looking for a desktop all of them use some of the standard desktop environments, like kde, gnome, enlightenment, etc05:20
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holycowwhat you really should be paying attention to is not 'new linux' but 'how is this distro configured'05:21
holycowwhat is specialy about it05:21
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holycowfor example xandros is just a customized debian with kde over top.  what makes them special is they think all users are idiots and need a linux distro to look and work like windows05:21
iKernel!xlibs is at http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/xlibs05:21
ubotuiKernel: okay05:21
holycowfor all its worth xandros seems to work easiest for people that want linux to work like windows05:21
vircuserohh05:22
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holycowpersonally i hate that but again, each distro caters to a particular audience05:22
Madpilotholycow: but it's Gnome users who're the idiots, Torvalds said so! :P05:22
holycowdebian for example is a super powerfull distro that probably gets you the closest to 'customize all you want' without having to compile from source05:22
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iKernelholycow: I MIGHT try that out... nah not worth it05:23
poningruMadpilot: rofl05:23
sampanmadpilot, he didn't say gnome users were idiots.  he said the gnome developers TREAT their users as idiots. entirely different meaning.05:23
HaiKarateyeah, so like what does ole leeeenus use, twm? Windows?05:23
holycowubuntus strenght is basically taking debian, freezing it every 6 months, and adding lots of elbow grease (and cash) to make the debian packages into a desktop environment that you really don't haveto setup your self for the most part05:23
vircuserholycow thanks...... that helps. i like ubuntu, community message, unity, freedom and all, i can't get my internet cnnection to work05:23
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alekandriKernel: http://www.cannings.co.uk/acatalog/logitech_webcams.html ??? which one have you got, i need a webcam that supports any messenger like amsn or kopete05:23
holycowvircuser, and on and on... but it all the same crap basically05:24
holycowvircuser, well tell us what you tried and perhaps someone who knows the answer is around05:24
iKernelalekandr: I don't have a logitech webcam.05:24
vircuserholycow would u go back to windows05:24
holycowMadpilot, i'm taking away your stir stick05:24
holycow>_>05:24
alekandrwhat have you got iKernel ?05:24
Madpilotsampan: yeah, but the way I phrased it is far more flameworthy! :P05:24
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holycowvircuser, never, not in a million years, but my outlook on things and my needs are not the same as others05:24
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camomy speakers are out and my alarm clock is broken, anyone know of a program that uses the system clock for an alarm?05:25
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camosystem speaker i mean05:25
vircuseri want the same windows software but the stability of linux05:25
sampanmadpilot, ahhhhhh indeed.  if provocation, rather than accuracy, was your goal, then your statement makes more sense ;)05:25
cafuegocamo: 'at 6:00 sudo cat /proc/kcore > /dev/console'05:25
holycowvircuser, let me also backup a sec and mention something fairly important about linux and gnu05:26
cafuegocamo: That should wake you ;-)   [Disclaimer: don't] 05:26
camo?05:26
Madpilotsampan: yeah, and KDE users are all feature sluts, right? :P05:26
holycowthe thing that i like about the platforms is that they cannot die05:26
holycowas long05:26
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poningruvircuser: start using ubuntu, get your friends to use ubuntu, make it very popular and watch the progs coming in05:26
holycowas long as the developers are coding for their needs, the platform will survive because ultimately its the core users coding for their needs05:26
sampanmadpilot, yes -- all of us!  i have embraced my sluttiness05:26
camocafuego, know of any way to make the system clock beep at 6am without lighting my computer on fire?05:27
iKernelalkandr: http://www.geniusnet.com.tw/product/product-1.asp?pdtno=528 I haven't got it to work with linux yet. I don't have access to this webcam at this time, and I didn't get it to work under amsn (GAY /dev/video0 NOT THERE!!!)05:27
holycowwhich is kinda important, because once you forget about things like 'market share' and 'quareterly reports' you are free to really do some remarkable things, like experiment with ideas05:27
cafuegocamo: You can write a ctrl-G character to /dev/console, that'll make it beep.05:27
holycowand not get tied up in marketing hypet05:27
holycow-t05:27
holycowor fear that if a company cannot find revenue that it will disappear tommorrow05:27
iKernelalknadr: ls /dev/video005:27
vircuserholycow and poningru thanks. heres my problem i loaded the live cd but i can't experiance ubuntu fully, no internet!05:28
holycowfor me at least that is an incredibly important factor in choosing linux / gnu / bsd or whatnot05:28
persiacamo: If you run xmms or bmp, you can use the bmp-alarm or xmms-alarm packages for an alarm.  You'll need to supply the sound files.05:28
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camopersia, the problem is that my speakers are broken, i need something that uses the system speaker05:28
holycowvircuser, system / administration / networking, setup your network settings for your internal network05:28
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iKernelpersia: Lol bmp! I know that as the bitmap file format.05:29
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regeyayeah, that bugs me when people say 'bmp'05:29
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regeyaalso, bmp as the next-gen xmms is dead in a way.05:29
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iKernel"next-gen xmms"? xmms is pwn05:30
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greg__what up?05:30
jasonnothin what u up to05:31
iKernelDid you know that there is a way to get access to microsoft source code?05:31
regeyahttp://audacious-media-player.org/Main_Page <- XMMS, I mean BMP, I mean Audacious05:31
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greg__I can't figure out this dlink router 713p05:31
camoim out of here, im just gonna hope i can get my speakers working somehow x.x05:31
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greg__anyone know how to get a router to work with ubuntu?05:31
vircuserduring loadup it saw i have a network interface (usb 2wire for my hpna- basically i have 2nd and 3rd pc connected to the modem/router through the phone line with usb device) but in the network devices it says "loopback interface" but i can't change or configure because the configure option is shaded. also, in the network setting it shows modem connection - interface ppo not configured i can go to properties but the activate a05:32
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jasonusually ubuntu configures all your network configs in the install05:32
Muldergreg__, setting the ubunu machine up as a router?05:32
iKernelgreg__: For goodness's sake, just put a windows machine in charge of the router and put your linux machine behind it.05:32
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holycowvircuser, how are you connected to what?05:32
holycowyou have a router right?05:32
holycowhow are you connected to the router?05:32
greg__well, I got my dsl coming in to the router and my router directly connected to my desktop unit05:33
greg__then I have my laptop on wireless05:33
Mulderhow is it connected05:33
jasoni cant get sound out my speakers with ubuntu05:33
holycowwas a question for vircuser greg__ :)05:33
iKernelMulder: Wireless.05:33
greg__I know, but I was midsentence05:33
holycowoh! hehe :) k jsut making sure05:33
MulderiKernel, so he has a hardware router, with ethernet to desktop, and wifi to his ubuntu lap?05:34
greg__the laptop with wireless is windows and does connect to the  internet05:34
jasonhow do i get sound comming out of my speakers with ubuntu. the motherboard has the sound card embedded in it.05:34
greg__but my desktop unit with ubuntu that is directly connected through a wire won't connect05:34
iKernelTell you how dad has it.05:34
iKernelHe got a hub that the DSL box is connected to.05:34
jasonis there a way to load sound drivers to my ubuntu?05:35
iKernelThis linux desktop is connected to the hub through an ethernet connection.05:35
greg__exactly05:35
sethkjason, you shouldn't have to do anything separate to do that05:35
cafuegojason: System -> prefernces -> Sound -> pick a card05:35
sethkjason, normally the installation program finds and loads the drivers05:35
greg__as we speak I disconnected the wireless hub so i can talk to you guys05:35
greg__and i am directly connected through ethernet to the dsl box with the desktop ubuntu05:36
holycowcafuego, heh, i didn't know that ... weird.  i should try seeing how a system handles multiple cards05:36
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Muldershoudl just work05:36
iKernelFor wireless, he has a couple of asus (sp?) wireless things that can act as a gateway and a wireless adaptor. The asus things have an ethernet port (they are driverless, these asus things).05:36
iKernelBut you see, my dad is dammned good at networking, so he smart05:37
vircuserholycow - ok my pc is connected to my external modem/router (combo) by a usb device (2wire usb) using the phone line, during the live cd install it found it as a network device 2wire etc.... but in my network tools - network device - "loopback interface" and the configure button  is shaded. now in the network setting it shw a modem connection - interface ppo not configured ? how can i get  it to show 2wire usb so i can surf?05:37
cafuegoholycow: Just lists multiple in the pull-down there.05:37
cafuegoholycow: Mine lists my sblive and the on-board one.05:37
Mulderif the desktop is hooked up to the router via wired ethernet, then there's really no reason why ubuntu wouldnt work05:37
iKernelOh, I ani't going into it here.05:37
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jasonehh my sound card still does not work for some reason05:38
greg__maybe my wire is bad05:38
jasonunder the sound card it says HDA Intel05:38
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poningrugreg__: you sure the router is using ethernet for connecting to the computer? maybe you started using pppoe or something?05:38
gerald-voltanyone here have a usb joystick?  if so, can you help me test a program?05:38
poningrugreg__: how are you connected right now?05:38
jasonso it looks as if it has found the sound card but the sound will still not work05:38
iKerneljason: Install new alsa drivers.05:38
Muldergreg__, make sure you're not using crossover cable05:38
poningrugreg__: using the same wire right?05:38
greg__well, I am using as far as I know a ethernet cable05:38
poningruMulder: todoays nics and routers have autodetect05:38
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jasonwhere do i get the alsa driver05:38
holycowvircuser, i'm going to haveto plead ignorance on that one, i have no experience with that sort of setup, i am sorry.  maybe someone else knows05:39
poningruMulder: todays*05:39
Mulderponingru, cabling autodetection?05:39
greg__and the one on the router with WAN is connected to the dsl box and05:39
poningruMulder: yes they can detect crossover05:39
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vircuserholycow, how r u connected?05:39
poningruand compensate accordingly05:39
iKernelgreg__: What color is it? Blue? Yellow? Grey? (usually long patch cables are blue)05:39
Mulderponingru, i'd be impressed if they can detect and autocorrect heh05:39
greg__there is 1 2 3 and 4 outputs I guess for multiple05:39
poningruMulder: they do05:39
mark105is there a way to apt-get all the webmin packages at once?05:39
greg__the cable is grey05:39
cafuegoMulder: Mine do.05:39
poningrugreg__: how are you connected right now?05:39
iKernelgreg__: So it short?05:39
cafuegoMulder: They don't care of you use x-over or normal.05:39
Muldercafuego, what kind of card do you have?05:39
greg__yeah using a red cable05:39
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Mulderi wonder if this broadcom can do that05:40
cafuegoMulder: some d-link router and a yukon gbit in my desktop box05:40
poningrujason: go to system->pref->media select05:40
iKernelgreg__: um..?05:40
greg__but I need to cables, one for the dsl box to router and one to desktop05:40
greg__two cables05:40
poningrujason: media system selector05:40
vircuserholycow can i mount it somehow?05:40
cafuegos/router/switch/05:40
iKernelponingru: Media Systems Selctor05:40
poningruyeah what he said05:40
poningruhe left out an e but you know what he meant05:41
holycowvircuser, i cannot even begin to guess as i have no clue what that usb connection is like05:41
holycowit sounds like you are trying to network your system via a usb cable of some sort, in which case ethernet over usb is a mystery to me05:41
persiajason: The ALSA drivers are included in the kernel.  Try running `alsamixer` from a terminal window: for my card, I needed to unmute the "front" speakers before anything would work.05:41
tamaleI'm getting an error message when I run mdadm --create... it says: Cannot open /dev/hde: Device or resource busy   for every one of my hard drives05:42
jasonWhen i try to run the test it says FAILED TO construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture'05:42
iKernelholycow: It seems that usb ports are multi-functional.05:42
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Knowerrors anybody using Opera browser know what motif package is needed?05:43
iKernelholycow: Mouse, wireless adaptor, mic, speaker, hell, there's even a usb desktop light at this house.05:43
cafuegoKnowerrors: Opera uses Qt, not motif.05:43
greg__i'm downloading the manual from dlnk right now05:43
vircuserholycow it looks like a line filter, usb on one end and a line filter on the other which is where the phone line plugs in.05:43
holycowhttp://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/10/31/israel.lenslet.reut/  <-- wow neat05:43
tamaleanyone know anything about mdadm ?05:43
jasonokay i tried the terminal05:43
vircuserholycow is that link for me?05:43
jasonit say item: PC Speaker [off] 05:43
iKernelgreg__: Ha! I highly doubt that the manual will be linux-speficic.05:43
cafuegoKnowerrors: if you fetch opera-static, this isn't an issue.05:43
jasonwhat key do i press to change it to on05:43
holycowvircuser, no, just a general point of interest05:44
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holycowvircuser, i have never routed ethernet over usb, but thats basically what you need to google05:44
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holycowi have seensome notes on this a while back about geting dialup access via a cel phone and usb connection05:44
vircuserit's working in xp not in linux05:44
holycowvircuser, is this some sort of weird laptop without an ethernet adapter?05:44
greg__no doubt ikernel05:45
greg__I am just looking at it to see some specs05:45
holycowiKernel, stop the ctcp05:45
cafuegovircuser: The Linux and XP ethernet-over-usb protocols may also not be compatible.05:45
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iKernelholycow: But it fun! :D05:45
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iKernelok i stop05:45
Knowerrorscafuego: the only opera I found was in the plf ubuntu repos05:45
cafuego!opera05:45
ubotuOpera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser05:45
_jeffhey guys05:45
persiavircuser: Take a look at http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/ to determine what module is required for your interface.  There are useful instructions for some devices there, and if nothing else, it can assist you in any searches.05:45
holycowKnowerrors, its right on theri website05:45
iKernel!no05:46
ubotuAhh, too bad, I really thought so...05:46
Knowerrorscafuego: and it asked for motif wrapper after I installed it to use mozilla plugins05:46
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cafuegoKnowerrors: Oh, plugins. Grr. lesstif is what most linuxes use, as motif istelf is not free.05:46
_jeffim having a problem with my wlan, i can connect to my home network, i can see my files on the network and everything seems to work fine. but i cant acess the internet05:46
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phreak97ok, azureas cant make files where i want it to download to (some setlength error) but it can on the desktop, the place i want it to save stuff has exactly the same permissions as the desktop05:47
phreak97help?05:47
Mulderwow, unicode05:47
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vircuserholycow - no it's a reg tower p4, pc, no nic card, just a usb filter, software installed drivers for sbc dsl. my 1st pc is connected to the modem/router by ethernet and my 2nd and 3rd have the usb  filter thingy (2wire device) plugged in the phone line05:47
pc22how do i edit resolution. 640x480 is the only choice05:47
cafuegoyh05:47
greg__I can't figure it out right now, thanks yall. -Greg05:47
_jeffphreak: how did you install it?05:47
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holycowvircuser, heh, i wish i could actually help solve the problem, perhaps ethernet over usb is the future :) who knows05:48
_jeffim having a problem with my wlan, i can connect to my home network, i can see my files on the network and everything seems to work fine. but i cant acess the internet05:48
theconartistwhat is the default directory for apache2 from the ubuntu repo05:48
Knowerrorscafuego: yeah, opera is installed and works fine from plf repos, but tells me at startup that it needs motif to use mozilla plugins05:48
phreak97_jeff, however the guide told me05:48
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vircuserdo u think if i download the actual install version it will recognize everything and configure it for me?05:49
_jeffphreak97: do you have any wierd partitioning?05:49
holycowdownload install of what vircuser ?05:49
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vircuserholycow do u think if i install the ubuntu version instead of this live cd.05:49
phreak97_jeff, the place i want it is /media/s/Bittorrent/incoming05:50
phreak97its a fat32 partition05:50
phreak97wouldnt have called it wierd myself05:50
_jeffphreak97: i think thats because media goes for if u have like a usb stick05:50
holycowvircuser, not sure actually :/  give it a go ?05:50
phreak97thats where they auto installed05:50
phreak97_jeff, can i get around it without changing the mount points of my drives?05:51
vircuserholycow i read that the ubuntu is linux and it will install unix software, isn't mac unix or linux based. if so i can use itunes and garage band for mac right?05:51
persiatheconartist: /var/www/apache205:51
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_jeffphreak97: im not sure man. what are you trying to do? dl directly to usb hdd or something?05:52
phreak97vircuser, ubuntu IS linux, i doubt you can install mac software05:52
tamalei can't seem to get any real help here (no offence to anyone, it just seems that no one here knows how to use mdadm..)   could anyone here please simply suggest the next best place for me to receive support?05:52
vircuserphreak97 thanks05:52
phreak97_jeff,  nope, its a partition on my main drive05:52
phreak97but thats where it mounted itself05:53
ilba7ri heared ubuntu used different build rules than debian. My question is can i use dh_make to make a .deb bin from source?05:53
_jeffphreak97: hmm05:53
cafuego!find libXm.so05:53
phreak97vircuser, np05:53
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tamalehello?05:53
vircuseri wish i can mount this 2wire usb device so i can surf with ubuntu can anyone help?05:54
holycowtamale, just so that someone answers you, i have no clue what mdam is :)05:54
_jeffphreak97: dont know man. hopefully somebody else in here does05:54
_jeffim having a problem with my wlan, i can connect to my home network, i can see my files on the network and everything seems to work fine. but i cant acess the internet05:54
tamaleas far as i understand, it's the software raid manager05:54
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holycowvircuser, try googling ethernet over usb ubuntu or somethign like that05:54
ilba7ranyone know how deb build rules are diff from ubuntu?05:55
vircuserholycow thanks05:55
phreak97anyone know?05:55
holycowyou shouldn't havet compile a kernel just tell ubuntu to use ethernet over that device05:55
tamalei mean i just can't believe how hard of a time i'm having trying to find some information about these error messages i'm getting... it seems like software raid is something many people use linux for........05:55
persiavircuser: Check http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/ to see if there are any reports on your device.05:55
phreak97i really need to download to my s partition05:55
vircuserholycow how05:55
holycowvircuser, probably there will be some entry in /etc/network/interfaces that will be haveto created, not sure05:55
holycowvircuser, the how will haveto be left to google my friend, i05:56
jamiehey I want to setup a launcher to start a sh file. what should I make the command?05:56
holycowi've never done that05:56
cafuegoKnowerrors: install `libmotif3' and add `/usr/X11R6/lib' to /etc/ld.so.conf. Then run 'sudo ldconfig'.05:56
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garryIt is probably because none of us know why or that the answer would take an age to relate Tamele. sorry, your original question scrolled off the screen or never appeared.05:56
ilba7ras usaly no one know05:56
vircuserholycow how can i edit that string, i'm new to linux? from the run command?05:56
phreak97ok, azureas cant make files where i want it to download to (some setlength error) but it can on the desktop, the place i want it to save stuff has exactly the same permissions as the desktop05:56
cafuegoilba7r: Just run 'dpkg-buildpackage -b', it will be fine.05:57
tamaleI'm getting an error message when I run mdadm --create... it says: Cannot open /dev/hde: Device or resource busy   for every one of my hard drives05:57
tamalethe error messages are simply saying that my drives are busy05:57
phreak97the place i want is a fat32 partition on the same drive as my filesystem, but for some reason it's mounted in /media/s05:57
cafuegotamale: Are they mounted?05:57
phreak97not /mnt05:57
garrytamale, is it possible that the drives are mounted.05:57
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holycowvircuser, you are editing a file and you can use a text editor like gedit.  from terminal you want to start gedit with sudo gedit ... so it runs as root05:57
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garrywhat cafuego said.05:57
tamaleas far as i understand they're not supposed to be be mounted yet05:57
holycowfiles in /etc are protected05:57
ilba7rcafuego just needed to know simple answer are deb rules diif then ubuntu and can i use use dh_make?05:57
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cafuegotamale: That wasn't my question. Are they or are they not?05:58
tweek888what happened to the ubotu?05:58
tweek888:<05:58
tamalehow would i know05:58
cafuegoilba7r: They're not normally different as far as I know.05:58
garryif it says auto in the fourth field, they would mount automaticallly.05:58
cafuego!test05:58
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ChildrenoftheKorwhat up05:58
cafuegodamn bot05:58
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cafuegohold on05:58
garrythat would be in /etc/fstab05:58
ilba7rthanx cafuego05:58
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_jeffcan nobody help me with my wlan problem?05:58
persiaphreak97: All extra filesystems are mounted in /media in ubuntu, rather than /mnt.  If you really want it in /mnt, put an entry in /etc/fstab with your desired location.05:58
alejandroas I was saying, I have been googling for a while looking the way to play mp3 with amarok, but I can't find anything. Any ideas about it05:58
alejandro?05:58
phreak97persia, i dont05:58
phreak97i just want azureas to work05:59
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en1gmahi all05:59
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vircuserholycow sudo is like some sort of app loader or something?05:59
ChildrenoftheKorOKay I have a windows NTFS 80 gig drive that i hooked up to my computer after I installed Ubuntu. Ubuntu sees the drive but will not let me access it05:59
garryIts a codec you need alejandro I can't remember what the codec is however.05:59
holycowvircuser, something like it sure, it lets you run applications as root05:59
en1gmais ubunto.kubunto a live cd06:00
persiaphreak97: Sorry then.  I'm not familiar with azureus.06:00
scottt106Anyone have time to help a linux newbie?  just a couple quick questions06:00
kyagerWhy isn't my .Xdefaults working, even when I restart X?06:00
vircuserholycow root?06:00
tamalecafuego: They're listed as 'Inaccessible' in Disks Manager, if that helps06:00
holycowvircuser, you want to only use it for as few tasks as possible06:00
ChildrenoftheKorhow do i access the 80 gig windows ntfs drive06:00
alejandrogarry: I installed win32codecs but doesn't work with them06:00
cafuegotamale: Disks manager?06:00
_jeffvircuser: it mean super user, which tells the system that you are requesting super user privillages06:00
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holycowvircuser, root in unix is like and administrator, everyone runs as a reduced priviledge user by default06:00
tamalecafuego:  yes, the ubuntu disk manager utility06:00
cafuegoheeeere botty!06:00
vircuserholycow i need a linux resource code book or bible do u have a file?06:00
_jeffvircuser: so that you can make important changes to the system06:00
holycowexcept on linspire which runs everyone as root, which is beyond idiotic06:00
cafuegotamale: How are you running that?06:00
lnostdalChildrenoftheKor, System -> Administration -> Disks    has worked for me06:00
kyagerWhy isn't my .Xdefaults working, even when I restart X?06:00
garryalejandro nods. it was something I installed via synaptec. Might be media player ora  name like that.06:00
holycowvircuser, yes, www.google.com :)06:00
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tamalecafuego:  System - Administratrion - Disks06:01
phreak97anyone know is an amd sempron processor is worth having?06:01
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alejandrogarry: will look for it thanks06:01
cafuegotamale: Running from harddisk?06:01
holycowphreak97, well since all semprons are now 64 bit, how can you go wrong?06:01
garryalejandro good luck to you.06:01
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tamalecafuego:  I have ubuntu already installed on a different drive06:01
ChildrenoftheKorstrangely enough when I try press enable under the Status it wont let me06:01
en1gma installed ubunto and rebooted and then got DE and then i switched to root and did cfdisk and deleted partitions now what06:01
holycowi used sempron 64's to build budget pc's all the time06:01
ChildrenoftheKorStatus: Inaccessible06:01
cafuegotamale: Does 'df' show the other drives?06:01
narlesubotu tell fealz about checkinstall06:01
tweek888ubotu tell tweek888 about ntfs mounting06:02
tamalecaf:  no06:02
tweek888:[06:02
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scottt106Can somebody help me, I'm having terminal troubles.  When using a make command, i get the message "bash: make: command not found".  After a little research it sounds like i need to install the make command... Does anyone know how I could do that?06:02
phreak97holycow, it's an amd sempron 3000+06:02
phreak97for a laptop06:02
vircuserholycow thanks, but i'm scared to dl ubuntu if won't recogize my internet device, can i speak to ubuntu rep or something?06:02
en1gmawow this channel is way to busy06:02
cafuegoscottt106: What are you compiling?06:02
kyagerWhy isn't my .Xdefaults working, even when I restart X?06:02
floamafter building my own .deb from a source package and installing it, apt wants to "upgrade" me to the same thing except from the dapper repository.06:02
floamThe following packages will be upgraded:06:02
floam   gnome-control-center (2.13.4-0ubuntu1 => 2.13.4-0ubuntu1)06:02
tamalecafuego:  what, if they WERE mounted you might've been able to help?06:02
ChildrenoftheKorI also have my mp3 collection on that drive06:02
garryChildrenoftheKor, that is odd, usually works for me, I can read, but I can never write to ntfs yet. Linux writing to NTFS is bleeding edge, and sometimes dangerous depending on who you talk to.06:02
sampanscottt106  you should install the "build-essential" package06:02
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cafuegotamale: Yes, seeing a sunmounting them is easy <heh>06:03
holycowphreak97, in laptoops only get systems with dedicated mobile cpu's, i wouldn't get a laptop with a sempron, too hot06:03
ChildrenoftheKorif i enable it will i lose my mp3 collection06:03
scottt106cafuego: I'm trying to install the drivers for my USB wireless network card, it needs the prism2 drivers through linux wlan ng06:03
tamalecafuego:  So why are they coming up as 'busy' if they're not even mounted ?06:03
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persiafloam: You'll need to "hold" the package.06:03
kyagerSomeone has to know...06:03
floampersia: how do I do that?06:03
ChildrenoftheKorits weird when i press enable it i see the mouse icon go to a load icon for a second06:03
ChildrenoftheKorand then nothing happens06:03
holycowvircuser, well ubuntu is free and doesn't have a rep per se, i'm not sure what the issue is.  download install.  if it doesn't work put whatever else you want on.  just make sure you backup06:03
tweek888what is the name of the mount script for mounitng other partitions? I forgot it06:03
Hmmmmhey guys i need some help installing amsn 0.95 on ubuntu breezy06:03
vircuserscott`106 i have that problem to i have a 2wire usb device for sbc dsl and it won't recognize either.06:04
ChildrenoftheKorcould it be some sort of permissions problem?06:04
Hmmmmamsn depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.1-9); however:06:04
Hmmmm  Version of libstdc++6 on system is 4.0.1-4ubuntu9.06:04
kyagerWhy isn't my .Xdefaults working, even when I restart X?06:04
cafuegoscottt106: Are you building them via the 'linux-wlan-ng-source' ubuntu package?06:04
sethktweek888, I don't think you mean a script.  the /etc/fstab specifies what is mounted06:04
holycowvircuser, to be perfectly honest, you really would save your self a lot of time if you just bought a $10 network card06:04
sethktweek888, and the mount command, with the -a flag, mounts everything in /etc/fstab06:04
tweek888sethk, thanks06:04
sethktweek888, and mount -a is executed during boot up, so I think that's what you want06:04
lnostdalChildrenoftheKor, it should be mountet at the path specified just above the enable-button "access path"  .. you should be able look there and the files will be there06:04
scottt106cafuego:  is there a specific ubuntu package?  i only have the zipped file off the main site06:04
tamalegrawr, ok, so back to my initial question,   if I can't get help here, where should I go next?06:04
floampersia: if I do that, I'll need to keep an eye out for when a new version is released, right?06:04
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cafuegotamale: no idea. Are they connected to a dodgy controller?06:05
kyagerWhy isn't my .Xdefaults working, even when I restart X?06:05
floampersia: it sort of seems like there should be a way to not make apt care until a newer version comes out06:05
cafuegotamale: .. or are you running the admin tool as non-root?06:05
floampersia: since my version is identical to the one from the repo06:05
tamaleno, i'm root06:05
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vircuserholycow i guess my problem is ubuntu isn't recognizing my usb device as my ethernet device any suggestions?06:05
tamaleand the controllers should be fine i'd think.. everything's brand new06:05
tweek888sethk, I don't have /etc/fstab06:05
tamalepromise controllers06:05
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cafuegotamale: Can you try bootin ght einstall CD and setting up the raid array from that, leaving your normall06:05
cafuego install intact...06:06
kyagerWhy isn't my .Xdefaults working, even when I restart X?06:06
holycowvircuser, i gave you general info, i told you to google, and recommended a sane way to solve the problem.  what else are you not clear on?06:06
sethktweek888, that's extremely unlikely.  are you sure you didn't look for it as a normal (non-root) user and draw the wrong conclusion from the result?06:06
holycowvircuser, consider this my last response06:06
tamalesure, i guess i can give that a shot06:06
vircuserholycow thanks sorry.......06:06
tamalei just figured it'd be easier to install first06:06
tweek888sethk, you're correct ;] 06:06
cafuegotamale: No, setting 'em up in the installer is dead easy... it's all guided.06:06
sethktweek888, good, then, that makes more sense.  :)06:06
tamalecaf:  oh shit really06:06
tamalelol.. *smacK*06:07
tweek888sethk, should I restart now?06:07
tweek888:<06:07
tamalei'll try that then i guess06:07
kyagerPretty much a waste of time being here I guess06:07
tamalehow do i tell it to leave my install intact06:07
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sethktweek888, I don't know, I just got here and the only thing I saw was your question about where the mount points live06:07
tweek888ah06:07
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cafuegotamale: Just go throuhg the partitioning step and create the raid array, then quit the installer, reboot.. see what happens :-)06:07
persiafloam: `echo package-name hold | dpkg --set-selections` should do it.  Personally, I use aptitude with manual package upgrade selection to avoid the issue.06:07
tamalerofl  sounds like a plan06:07
tamalethanks again06:08
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cafuegogood luck! :-)06:08
scottt106cafuego: thanks for the insight, i'm going to check the forums and see what i can find there06:08
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alejandroweird, can' find anything that could help me with amarok playing mp3's06:08
garrySometimes, your the windshield, sometimes you are the bug. Kyager. Maybe someone will know later.06:08
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phreak97holycow, pm06:10
holycowi'm away getting something to eat06:10
ChildrenoftheKorWhen i go through the file browser it will not let me access my ntfs hdd06:10
holycowphreak97, no pm accepted, post in channel06:10
holycowi'm away06:10
phreak97damnit06:10
ChildrenoftheKorit has a little X near the top right corner06:10
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phreak97i want to find out about semprons in laptops without the clutter of the channel06:11
ChildrenoftheKordo i have to do something with sudo to access it06:11
batmanhello can someone here tell me of a port scanner i can get?06:11
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HoboTurtlehello everyone06:11
persiabatman: nmap06:11
tamalecafuego:  you're not gonna believe this, but it locked up during the "scanning disks..."  stage of the cd06:11
batmanis the a gui one?06:11
batmanthere*06:11
persiabatman: nmapfe06:11
batmanthanks06:11
garryChildrenoftheKor, I would recheck the /etc/fstab make sure its is valid.06:12
cafuegotamale: I wonder if the really new controller is perhaps not supported.06:12
cafuego(yet)06:12
exclipydoes ubuntu come with any firewalls set up by default?06:13
tamalecafuego:  Actually, it just failed to find one drive06:13
batmanpersia, where can i start it up at?06:13
tamalecafuego:  I think it's ok now.  Should i go into "edit manually"  ?06:13
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cafuegotamale: Any chance that has a bad jumper or is busted?06:13
cafuegotamale: yep06:13
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cafuegotamale: Oh, your current install is NOT on the disks you want in the array, right?06:13
tamalecaf:  correct06:14
ChildrenoftheKoropps i dont even know what i clicked garry06:14
tamalei'm in the "Configure software raid"  now06:14
persiabatman: You'd do best to read the docs.  `man nmapfe` and `man nmap` are good places to start.06:14
ChildrenoftheKori am tryin to pm you06:14
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tkupWhat do these messages imply? dpkg: warning - unable to delete old directory `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1': Directory not empty06:14
cafuegotamale: cool06:14
garryChildrenoftheKor what you clicked. What happened?06:14
psusitamale, you might want to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto... it sounds like you have a fakeraid controller06:15
ChildrenoftheKori dont knowth ctcp thing06:15
en1gmais ubuntu a live cd06:15
tamalepsusi: What's fakeraid ?06:16
garryThere is both live cd and real install avail06:16
tamaleand also, a general question,  should I use LVM over raid?06:16
persiatkup: A package containing that directory was removed, but files remained in the directory, and so the directory was not deleted.  Usually this means that another package has stored files in the directory.  Sometimes it means there is junk in the directory.  If you are low on disk space, you may wish to investigate these directories to see if they can be deleted.  `dpkg -S filename` is a good way to check if any file is being used b06:16
floampersia: I'm thinking holding it might not be the best thing. How can I go about bumping the version number?06:16
psusitamale, read the wiki, it explains06:16
en1gmagarry thnx06:17
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garryen1gma welcome06:18
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tamalepsusi:  I don't think I need this.. I think this is if I want to boot off the raid array06:18
persiafloam: When you build the package, you would make the necessary changes.  Be warned that this method may impact a future version release, and that the packaging tools do poorly with downgrades.  I don't generally create pacakages, but from a quick search, it looks like updating the changelog is sufficient.06:19
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psusitamale, aye... that is one of the advantages of using that instead of mdraid... another is you can dual boot with windows on the raid...06:19
freak_anyone know what the command is to open up Synaptics Package Manager?06:19
floampersia: it parses /debian/changelog? I figured that was just for humans06:19
floamthanks06:19
p337hey everybody, how would i view a directory as root?06:19
jipany apt repository where i could find gtk-engines, gtk-qt-engine and gtk-qt-engine-ui?06:19
tkupI'm currently doing an apt-get dist-upgrade but this lib libofx2_1 is giving dpkg some problems. I would really appreciate it if somebody could tell what's going on from the errors: http://pastebin.com/49741206:19
tamalepsusi:  I actually have a spare smaller drive in this computer just for the OS06:19
psusitamale, if you don't care about booting from it though, then yea... mdraid works fine06:20
freak_p337, sudo06:20
tkuppersia, thanks06:20
persiafreak_: synaptic06:20
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garryfreak_  System/Administration/symantec package manager06:20
tamalepsusi:  I couldn't use it earlier though, I was getting the error message "The disks are busy"06:20
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p337sudo: cd: command not found06:20
freak_garry, command line06:20
p337ls06:20
tamalebut i just finished setting it up here in the guided partitioner, so I'll see if this worked06:20
p337....oops..06:20
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freak_p337, sudo ls /dir/dir, then it should ask you for password06:21
tkupmy bad. after a apt-get clean the downloading restarted06:21
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tamaleWhat's the best filesystem for a large partition, that will most likely be samba-shared06:21
garry freak_ oh If you want to do symantec at command line, most use the apt-get command, but I know almost nothing about that. ye would have to man apt-get06:21
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p337freak_:  thanks06:22
freak_garry, lol, no i mean starting synaptic from a command line like making an icon for it, but its alright someone else gave me the command06:22
floampersia: that seemed to work06:22
tamaleok, it's showing up as 1.1 TB finally,  (YEY!)   so what's the best filesystem for a huge partition??06:22
garryfreak_ cool. :)06:22
floampersia: it shouldn't mess things up too much, since I changed the -ubuntu1 to -ubuntu1.106:22
newtypedoes anyone else in here have a nforce2 motherboard?06:22
floampersia: -ubuntu2 will come out and it'll want me to upgrade to that06:22
newtypeim having trouble with finding my ehternet card on it06:23
psusitamale, go with ext3 unless you have a reason to do otherwise06:23
tamalepsusi:  I wouldn't know if I had any other reasons :] 06:23
persiafloam: Good to hear.  From what I remember, your new version should match a debian NMU, and so be upgraded once a new ubuntu, debian, or upsteam becomes available.06:23
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floamnewtype: the forcedeth driver/module should be what you want06:23
newtypealright, thanks much06:23
freak_newtype, i do06:24
cafuegotamale: I'd probably use ext3. tested & stable.06:24
en1gmadoes ubuntu have a 64bit live cd where all apps are compiled in 64bit06:24
cafuegoen1gma: yes06:25
en1gmawhy cant i find it on the site06:25
newtypeyou see, im new to linux06:25
cafuegoen1gma: Note that there is no workign 64bit flash plugin or decent 64bit java plugin.06:25
newtypeand im not even sure how to install things yet.06:25
cafuegoen1gma: blindity? ;-)06:25
en1gmai dont care about flash or java as i hate em both06:25
cafuegoand 64bit is also not great for xvid video06:26
newtypei got as far as compiling the source code for the driver. but that i dont know how to do06:26
regeyawe hates them yes we does06:26
en1gmaah crap prob dont work with wmv eitjher06:26
tkupI'm currently doing an apt-get dist-upgrade but this lib libofx2_1 is giving dpkg some problems. I would really appreciate it if somebody could tell what's going on from the errors: http://pastebin.com/49741206:26
cafuegonot really.. they use 32bit windowd codecs06:26
freak_regeya, nice grammer, lol06:26
jamieQuick question, the sounds in ubuntu work fine, but when I play a game there is no sound.06:26
persiacafuego: What's wrong with j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin for 64bit?06:26
cafuegoen1gma: Well, you can run a 32bit chroot.06:26
regeyafreak_, nice spelling06:26
cafuegopersia: Doesn't work with the tax office here06:26
p337ok, how would i go about deleting a folder as root?06:27
freak_jamie, check the ingame sound settings06:27
p337is there a command like deltree06:27
persiajamie: Make sure you have libsdl1.2debian-alsa installed.  Many games depend on this, and the default libsdl doesn't use ALSA.06:27
cafuegoen1gma: http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-live-amd64.iso06:27
jamiefreak_, it is the same way in all games06:27
en1gmai didnt think it was possible to get 32bit apps to work in 64bit enviroment...dont forget i dont install compat libraries or i dont have 32bit exe enabled in kernel06:27
en1gmausually06:27
cafuegoen1gma: Not on Xeon, but amd64 does it fine.06:27
en1gmasomeone point me to link for that 64bit ubuntu/kubuntu06:27
persiacafuego: Thanks.  It worked for my limited use, but I'll not advise it for everything.06:27
en1gmaamd64 here06:28
psusien1gma, right now you can setup a 32 bit chroot and install 32bit apps there and run them... in the future, it will be possible to directly install them normally06:28
cafuegopersia: Well, ppl can also find out for themselves :-)06:28
freak_anyone here experienced with aDesklets?06:28
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cozhello all06:28
narlesi can't get some video to work with sound in a mozilla window.. judging from the progress bar, it seems to be a quicktime player06:28
SweetestSavage!xfce06:28
ubotusomebody said xfce was a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/06:28
en1gmai want 64bit enviroemnt only even if it means no xvid06:28
regeyafreak_, anytime I hear someone say they *hate* flash or anything along those lines, I think of Gollum, hence my 'we hates them' comment.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gollum06:28
freak_regeya, heh06:29
en1gmadoes the cd install compatible files for 32bit06:29
en1gmai bet it does06:29
jamiepersia, that was it thank you so much06:29
en1gmawell not install but loda (live cd)06:29
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freak_anyone use aDesklets or gDesklets?06:29
cafuegoen1gma: Only for openOffcie.org. (There is no 64bit version).06:30
cozfreak i did use them why06:30
en1gmaahhh well on that amd64 bit ubuntu live cd are you telling me there are 32bit compat versions of software on there06:30
cafuegoen1gma: yes06:30
en1gmacrap06:30
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en1gmai dont mess with that06:30
en1gmai strictly want 64 bit only06:31
freak_coz, i can't get aDesklets to configure06:31
cozright click on the icon at the upper right corner06:31
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cozOH sorry you can't configure it???06:31
garrySorry en1gma software has to do some catchup to 64 bit stuff.06:31
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en1gmawhatever but there are other distros makeing 64bit live cd only (as i speak)06:31
freak_coz, cant get ./configure to make the executable06:31
en1gmai know a guy doing it06:32
narlesmovies that play in mozilla using macromedia flash player 7 don't play with sound.. how do i go about fixing this???06:32
psusien1gma, I'm running the amd64 version06:32
garrytry seeing www.distrowatch.com06:32
cozfreak_ interesting because I have that same problem with another application are you using breezy?06:32
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en1gmaits not listed on distrowatch06:32
en1gmai know the guy06:32
psusien1gma, works fine if you don't mind not being able to use 32bit only proprietary software... which I don't... I don't use proprietary software at all06:32
en1gmawell from irc anyhow06:32
freak_coz, and the version on synaptics doesn't let me load desklets06:32
freak_coz, yes06:32
cafuegoen1gma: No, there is _some_ software that does not HAVE 64bit versions. IF that is include don the other CDs (Like Openoffice) they will ALSO have a 32bit compat lib.06:32
cozit won't let you load? what are theerrors?06:33
psusiohh, yea... openoffice currently is busted on 64bit, so ubuntu uses the 32 bit version on amd64 instead06:33
en1gmaso on cd1 of ubuntu is there any 32bit software on it at all (dont forget im just gonna use a live cd)06:33
freak_coz, therrors?06:33
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garryI was meaning to look at distrowatch to see if any distro supports 64bit cpu enough to be acceptable to en1gma06:33
cafuegoen1gma: If you don't want to run that for its own sake, maybe buy an Intel itanic :-)06:33
cozwhen you try to load the one from synaptic?06:33
en1gmaintel arggg06:34
freak_coz, you want the printout?06:34
ajmitchen1gma: why are you so adamant about having 64-bit only?06:34
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en1gma;)06:34
deanwhat package do I need to install the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website? it says the kernel source, but I got linux-source-2.6.12 and its still not working06:34
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cafuegoajmitch: ignorance prolly06:34
cozI woulnd't mind seeing it post it and give me the url06:34
en1gmakeep it 64bit makes it alot cleaner and dont slow the proc down using the 32bit exe in the kernel.config06:34
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ajmitchen1gma: eh what?06:34
cafuegoen1gma: No, you're mistaken.06:35
cozdean I have the same problem I have url if you would like it06:35
en1gmato run those 32bit compat apps you have to have 32bit support compiled in kernel06:35
en1gmai compile alot06:35
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deancoz: thanks :>06:35
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cafuegoThat "guy" is he a gentoo user at all?06:35
garryOn the package manager under System/Administration/package manager search for nvidia. There was a compiled nvidia driver there somewhere.06:35
deanits old06:36
cafuegoen1gma: 32bit compat doesn't make your kernel run slower.06:36
en1gmaya think it dont06:36
cozdean   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7507406:36
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cafuegoNo, it really doesn't.06:36
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en1gmathen why are ppl even switching from 64bit only from 32bit06:36
cozdean it didn't work for me but give it a try it may screw up the xorg.conf06:36
en1gmato64bit06:36
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deancoz: righto, thx06:36
freak_coz, nevermind... it worked.... it actually worked.... YIPEEE!!!06:36
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cozfreak what did you do right?06:37
tyleryup06:37
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freak_coz, well since it not working till now, i installed gDesklets and its dependencies06:37
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narlesmovies that play in mozilla using macromedia flash player 7 don't play with sound.. how do i go about fixing this???06:37
cozgood going06:37
hobbes_opuswe're trying to get a network printer that was working on Hoary Hedghog running on Breezy badger.  Its on a Windows workstation.06:38
ajmitchen1gma: on the contrary having a fully 64-bit system can be slower - however it's really getting offtopic even for here06:38
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persiaIs anyone familiar with udev magic?  My /dev/input/js0 is missing, and I'd like to restore it.  The device shows on the bus, and usbhid is loaded.06:39
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en1gmaCONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y06:39
en1gmaCONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=y06:39
en1gma# CONFIG_IA32_EMULATION is not set06:39
cafuegoen1gma: Becuase for a lot of applications 64bit code is faster. Just coz the kernel has a 32bit layer in it (that doesn't actually RUN unless you RUN a 32bit app that that point in time)06:39
brennernarles: hit the forum. i've heard that one before06:40
cafuegoen1gma: I suggest you get some docs on this issue from people who know what they're talking about.06:40
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newtypei have the patch, but how to I apply it06:40
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regeyajust remembered the time I got a kickban from #freebsd for answering a linux abi question06:40
en1gmawell if your gonna say a 64bit version is avail you better say 32bit (not 64bit pure)06:40
ajmitchen1gma: really, *don't* paste in here06:40
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en1gmai didnt violate any rules that why bot no kick me06:41
gerald-voltCansomeone with a usb joystick help me test a programI wrote?06:41
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deanok thats odd as hell, i thought I had installed my kernel's header files, but checked in case, and they were downloaded but not installed! :o now it works ;)06:41
ajmitchwe don't have bots to kick here06:41
cozen1gma did you do a pasty?06:41
Madpiloten1gma: the bots here don't kick...06:41
en1gmamy bad then06:41
en1gmasorry06:41
cozlol06:41
deancoz: cheers ;)06:42
persiagerald-volt: I'd be happy to test.  Do I need a working /dev/input/js0?06:42
gerald-volti don't know06:42
cozdean did the url help out06:42
newtypecan someone that is willing to help a linux newbie start a private chat with me06:42
en1gmaanyhow i know you guys got a pretty good os (just look at how many ppl are in here (but i gonna wait for 64bit pure live cd)06:42
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coznewtype what is the problem06:42
HoboTurtlehello everyone06:42
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en1gmahiay06:42
newtypei need to know how to install a program/apply a patch06:42
coznewtype are you using breezy?06:43
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newtypebreezy?06:43
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HoboTurtleim a newby to linux, real real newbie to ubuntu06:43
coznewtype do you know the name of the application?06:43
HoboTurtlei would appreciate if someone could help me out with something06:43
gerald-voltpersia:  http://members.shaw.ca/bokinator/test06:43
sethknewtype, why not just ask your questions here?06:43
regeyaen1gma, seriously, will you also wait to try MacOS X until Classic Mode is removed?  Will you wait to try Vista until it only runs Vista apps?  I suppose I'm confused about what you're on about.06:43
gerald-voltit's suppose to just say how many joysticks it found06:44
en1gmai aint gonna wait to long as i know ppl are working on it as we speak06:44
newtypeits the forcedeth patch06:44
persiagerald-volt: In that case, it may help with my problem.  Where can I find it?06:44
gerald-volt http://members.shaw.ca/bokinator/test06:44
gerald-voltthat's my program06:44
tamalecafuego: It actually, unbelievably, WORKED!!!   I have a 974 GB /store mount now!!!  Thanks so much man!!06:44
brennerHoboTurtle: ask away06:44
sethkHoboTurtle, the best thing to do is ask your question.  Then, if anyone knows the answer, they will answer.06:44
gerald-voltyou can also do a lsusb to see if it detected it06:44
tamalecafuego:  Tomorrow's project:  Get samba up and running ] 06:45
en1gmai waited for 225 years for games to get as good as they are now im sure i can wait a few more months for a 64bit only live cd06:45
en1gma25years*06:45
HoboTurtlei downloaded opera ubuntu breezy version06:45
HoboTurtleand i cant install it06:45
Madpilot!tell HoboTurtle about opera06:45
cozHoboTurtle what did you try?06:45
HoboTurtleum...06:45
HoboTurtleas a beginner06:45
persiagerald-volt: Umm..  Is there source?  I'm not running i386.  My joystick does show in lsusb.06:45
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HoboTurtlei typed sudo su in terminal06:45
HoboTurtlethen i typed dpkg -i file.deb06:46
gerald-voltyup06:46
gerald-volthold on, I'll put it up06:46
newtypeso how do i apply the forcedeth patch06:46
gerald-voltbut it's a cprogram06:46
cozhoboturtle where is the file you downloaded06:46
HoboTurtledesktop?06:46
MadpilotHoboTurtle: that should have worked, just make sure you're in the same directory as the .deb06:46
persiagerald-volt: No problems.  I have a compiler.06:46
gerald-voltk06:46
cozOk open up the terminal06:46
gerald-voltwait06:46
!lilo:*! Restarting a main rotation server that's off rotation; affected users, about 150006:46
HoboTurtleok06:46
gerald-voltyou'll need libsdl-dev06:46
gerald-voltto compile it06:46
HoboTurtle-_- ??06:46
gerald-voltwhoah06:47
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HoboTurtlethat was beautiful...i think06:47
cozhoboturtle applicationsaccoessories terminal06:47
newtypethe hell?06:47
cozapplications accessories terminal06:47
gerald-volthttp://members.shaw.ca/bokinator/test.c06:47
gerald-voltthat's the source06:47
newtypegot it06:47
HoboTurtlei got to it06:47
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woodgrainhey why did all those people get kicked?06:47
woodgrainhey why did all those people get kicked?06:47
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garrysomeone tripped over a wire.06:47
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HoboTurtleit says root@ubuntu:/home/...06:47
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psusiwoodgrain, it's called a netsplit... the two listed servers in their quit message got disconnected06:48
Madpilotwoodgrain: some server screwed up06:48
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cozHoboturtle do   ls in the terminal just type ls06:48
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MadpilotHoboTurtle: you don't need to use root - just add sudo in front of the dpkg command06:48
HoboTurtleokay ls done06:48
persiagerald-volt: I'll need a bit.  I've installed libsdl-dev, but it's complaining about SDL.h.  My apologies for the delay06:48
newtypek06:48
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cozHoboTurtle it is installed???06:49
tkupwhy is it that an apt-get dist-upgrade REMOVES packages?06:49
HoboTurtlenow i type dpkg -i file.deb?06:49
gerald-voltno worries06:49
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sethktkup, usually because a newer, conflicting package is needed06:49
lostbluri've had it with totem crashing webpages and want to remove it, but removing it in synaptics also wants to remove rhythmbox which i like better than the rest.. why? and how can i avoid this?06:49
cozsudo  dpkg -i unless you are in the root06:49
jawshoewahso firefox keeps crashing is there an alternative browser for ubuntu?06:49
TecnoVM64lostblur, you could just remove that plugin06:49
MadpilotHoboTurtle: the Opera wiki page will walk you through the install06:49
woodgrainpsusi, why didn't it kick me?06:49
_jasonjawshoewah, epiphany-browser is one06:49
cozjawshoewah why is it crashing/06:50
Hendikins|WorkYou could just nail the plugin file, although that is inelegant06:50
jawshoewahanytime there is media on a page it quits itself06:50
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Hendikins|Work_jason: That would have the same problem since it is Gecko based.06:50
jawshoewahie wmv, mp306:50
lostblurlol06:50
_jasonHendikins|Work, maybe06:50
Steven_Mhi all06:50
lostblurjaws: same probelm here, its a plugin probelm. not eth browser me thinks06:50
HoboTurtleum...06:50
HoboTurtlenot have worked06:50
cozHoboTurtle put the file in your home directory06:51
Hendikins|Work_jason: If it is Gecko 1.8 based, there's no maybe about it. If it is busted with 1.7...06:51
MadpilotHoboTurtle: what error message do you get?06:51
TecnoVM64remove the plugin, and the problem will dissappear06:51
HoboTurtlecannot access archive: No such file or directory06:51
lostblurtecno: i dont believ i have one installed (plug in) but why such dependency in the firts place? why would rhythmbox possibly need totem06:51
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lostblurit doenst appear as if they are developed bythe smae peopel06:51
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MadpilotHoboTurtle: where did you save the Opera .deb? You need to be in that exact directory when you run sudo dpkg06:51
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gerald-volttry looking up the examples on sdl-config man page06:52
Hendikins|Worklostblur: Things can work strangely.06:52
cozHoboturtle type this in terminal     cd /home/yourusername/Desktop06:52
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persiagerald-volt: It doesn't work for me: it depends on my having working devices.  Sorry.  Try someone whose joystick works.06:52
HoboTurtlecoz: its on the desktop06:52
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cozI understand06:52
psusiwoodgrain, nobody actually got kicked... just they were on the other server... you're on this one...06:52
TecnoVM64lostblur, you have to remove it manually06:52
lostbluralright in that case, where can i select defaults applications and make totem not play anything, and instead use Mplayer for example06:52
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woodgrainpsusi, so weird!06:52
MadpilotHoboTurtle: the line coz gave you will change directory (cd) to your Desktop directory06:52
cozjust type   cd /home/your user name/ Desktop06:52
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Hendikins|Worklostblur: Open about:plugins, see what the name of the plugin file is, and just remove it.06:53
brenneror ~/Desktop06:53
cozHoboTurtle OR you can move the package to your Home directory06:53
newtypeello?06:53
psusiwoodgrain, the servers split, temporarily creating two isolated irc networks... everyone on the other side of the split appears to quit with the split servers in their quit message06:53
psusiwoodgrain, since those users can not be reached anymore06:53
Hendikins|Worklostblur: It may be helpful to set plugin.expose_full_path to true using about:config before doing this, that gives you the full path to the plugin file.06:53
HoboTurtlek moved to home06:53
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cozHoboTurtle in terminal type  sudo dpkg -i opera and then hit the tab button06:54
lostblurthanks hendikins.. looking into that now06:54
HoboTurtleyes!06:55
HoboTurtlecoz it worked06:55
cozHoboTurtle then hit the "enter button06:55
cozgood!!06:55
Hendikins|Worklostblur: If you need a hand, just yell. I've probably handled more Firefox support questions than you've had hot dinners :)06:55
HoboTurtleoh wait..06:55
HoboTurtleit opened the a window06:55
Hendikins|Work(in addition to plugins being my niche)06:55
HoboTurtle*file browser....06:55
newtypestill needing help06:55
woodgrainpsusi, did you leave?  I'm going to kick that server!06:56
cozOk bacl to the terminal06:56
newtypeme?06:56
woodgrainnewtype, what do you need help with?06:56
HoboTurtledependency problems?06:56
newtypeinstalling the forcdeth patch06:56
cozHoboTurtle type   sudo dpkg -i opera then HIT the TAB button06:56
sethknewtype, you'll get better results if you ask a much more specific question06:56
newtypeok06:56
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sethknewtype, such as "I did _ and it did _ instead of _"06:56
newtypei have the forcdeth-bk4.patch on my desktop06:57
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cozHoboTurtle when you hit the tab button it should complete thename of the file06:57
MadpilotHoboTurtle: can you paste the exact error message? (if it's longer than two lines, pastebin it...)06:57
newtypeneed to apply it to get my ethernet to work06:57
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fredforfaenmorning suckers06:57
cozwHoboTurtle when the complete name of the file is in the terminal hit the enter buttn06:57
sethknewtype, ok, tell us specifically what you did, and why the results are unsatisfactory06:57
HoboTurtledpkg: error processing opera (--install):06:57
HoboTurtle dependency problems - leaving unconfigured06:57
charlie_hi06:57
newtypei did nothing because i have no idea how to install anything, as i said earlier, im a complete newb to linux06:57
charlie_im a new user of ubonto06:58
sethkHoboTurtle, you can tell it to ignore the dependency problem, but the question is, why do you have dependency problems?06:58
cozHoboTurtle where did you get the file?06:58
narlesmovies that play in mozilla using macromedia flash player 7 don't play with sound.. how do i go about fixing this???06:58
sethknewtype, it has some instructions with it, no?06:58
narlesthey might be in quicktime too06:58
newtypehttp://www.hailfinger.org/carldani/linux/patches/forcedeth/06:58
HoboTurtlei downloaded it straight from opera site06:58
newtypeno06:58
MadpilotHoboTurtle: Opera should install on Breezy with no problems - you're running x86 & not PPC or 64bit?06:58
newtypewait06:58
sethknewtype, ok, then why is it that you believe you need this patch?06:58
cozHoboTurtle hole on06:58
HoboTurtleid love to tell you if i knew06:58
cozhold on06:58
charlie_is there anyone knows how to install c++ in ubonto platform?06:59
charlie_is there anyone knows how to install c++ in ubonto platform?06:59
charlie_is there anyone knows how to install c++ in ubonto platform?06:59
charlie_is there anyone knows how to install c++ in ubonto platform?06:59
charlie_is there anyone knows how to install c++ in ubonto platform?06:59
charlie_is there anyone knows how to install c++ in ubonto platform?06:59
charlie_is there anyone knows how to install c++ in ubonto platform?06:59
cafuego!ops06:59
sethknewtype, it must have something with it, at least a readme, but perhaps you didn't find it?06:59
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth06:59
cafuegocharlie_: stop spamming06:59
sethkcharlie_, we'll assume, perhaps, once, that you did that by accident06:59
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Hendikins|WorkOpera has its merits, but it isn't a solution to a broken Firefox. Just like Firefox isn't a solution to something else being broken.06:59
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jawshoewahwhere can I hack the firefox module to to see why its quitting?06:59
sethkwell, maybe we won't.  :)06:59
cafuegojohndarkhorse: cheers06:59
newtypeim having problems finding it, but heck, ill look for a bitp06:59
newtypeill brb06:59
Hendikins|Workjawshoewah: run firefox from an xterm? That can provide data sometimes.06:59
Hendikins|Work(Assuming you don't want to go and so something like NSPR logging)07:00
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jawshoewahshould i load the site from xtrem that crashes it07:00
zblachhi. i'm having a strange issue. whenever i disconnect&reconnect to my wireless network, my box locks up completely07:00
sethkHendikins, I think he means the install, not firefox itself07:00
cafuego!ops =~ s/ or nalioth/, johndarkhorse or nalioth./07:00
ubotuOK, cafuego07:00
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zblachif i do the 'sudo ifdown wlan0 && sudo ifup wlan0' combination, 4of5 times, my computer will die in less than 30 seconds07:00
garryTo install C++ use Settings/Administration/Pakage Manager and look under the development, programming categories.07:00
brennernarles: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:01
zblachgarry, he's gone07:01
narleswhat type of file is a .swf07:01
narles?07:01
hobbes_opuswhat is the right way to get Ubuntu to print to a printer shared by a windows computer?07:01
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garryzblach hehe07:01
metrixwhen I try to mount an nfs partition with breezy live, it always mounts it read only.. even with mount -w and rw in /etc/exports on the server07:01
brennernarles: scroll down, there's a ff sound issues section07:01
Hendikins|Worksethk: I've been up for 27 hours, forgive me if I'm slipping a touch :)07:01
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johndarkhorsecafuego: a, b or c?07:01
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zblachnarles, swf is the compiled flash format. i think it stands for 'small web format'07:01
garryTo install C++ use Settings/Administration/Pakage Manager and look under the development, programming categories.07:01
metrixwhen I try to mount an nfs partition with breezy live, it always mounts it read only.. even with mount -w and rw in /etc/exports on the server anyone have any good ideas what could cause this?07:01
sethkHendikins, you aren't slipping, I just saw what he had written earlier in addition to what he just wrote07:01
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cafuegojohndarkhorse: I'll pick door c?07:01
zblachubotu, tell hobbes_opus about cups07:01
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brennernarles: they're flash files07:02
jawshoewahheres the error "Totem could not play 'fd://0'.07:02
Hendikins|Worksethk: heh. I'm just trying to assist.07:02
Mx16Ok so after Ubuntu loads, it says X server is not configured right and all I get is just my login07:02
jawshoewahthere were no decoders found to handl;e the stream07:02
cozHoboTurtle when you downloaded this did you download the Ubuntu version?07:02
sethkHendikins|Work, I know, I just meant that I wasn't trying to be critical.07:02
tweek888sethk, I have figured out hdc1 is my ntfs partition, I'm still unsure of how to mount it07:02
Hendikins|Workjawshoewah: so you're getting the "totem crashes Firefox" problem?07:02
newtypebecause my ethernet on my mobo wasnt detected07:03
jawshoewahit would appear so07:03
HoboTurtlecoz: yes i did07:03
sethktweek888, mount -r -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 /mnt/something07:03
Hendikins|Worksethk: I know, it wasn't taken as such. I do genuinely miss things from time to time.07:03
hobbes_opuszblach: I though that smb needs to be used to access windows shares?07:03
cozHbobTurtle and you are running breezy?07:03
sethktweek888, obviously, /mnt/something is not the actual directory07:03
tweek888sethk, thanks07:03
Hendikins|Workjawshoewah: remove totem plugin, use mplayer plugin instead.07:03
tweek888correct07:03
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HoboTurtlei thought i was running breezy07:03
jawshoewahis there a wiki on that?07:03
HoboTurtlearnt i? lol07:03
zblachhobbes_opus, right, but a small extension of that (cups) allows for printing to windows shared printers07:03
Hendikins|Workjawshoewah: Known issue, although I'll have to do some investigating when I get a chance.07:03
sethkHoboTurtle, I imagine you are, yes, if you installed the latest released version07:04
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narleshow do07:04
narlesi07:04
narlesAdd the line:07:04
narlesFIREFOX_DSP="none"07:04
HoboTurtleyes i did07:04
Hendikins|Workjawshoewah: removing the plugin is easy. rm -f [whatever is listed in about:plugins] 07:04
HoboTurtlewhatever is the latest07:04
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Toma-narles: whats that for?07:04
tkupalright this is it. I'm rebooting after a dist-upgrade. if I'm not back after 5 minutes, pray for me.07:04
brennerHendikins|Work: familiar with the adblock extension? i get 'Firefox could not install this item because of a failure in Chrom Registration' after restarting07:04
narlesgedit ~/.mozilla/firefox/rc07:05
Hendikins|Workjawshoewah: Setting plugin.expose_full_path to true in about:config gives you the full path.07:05
Hendikins|Workbrenner: 1.5?07:05
sethkbrenner, that's odd, I installed that a couple of days ago without a problem.07:05
brennerHendikins|Work: no, default breezy version07:05
zblachanyone else having lockup issues with their wireless cards?07:05
Hendikins|Worksethk: Adblock is one of our biggest 1.5 support headaches. Trust me.07:05
hobbes_opuszblach: thks, I'll read up on cups07:05
Hendikins|Workbrenner: Hrm. Any luck with AdBlock Plus?07:05
sethkHendikins|Work, I believe you, but I haven't run into it on any of my boxes.07:05
brennerHendikins|Work: never heard of it...07:06
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jawshoewahhendikins ive copied your posts but im a bit slow07:06
zblachhobbes_opus, np07:06
narlesToma-, gedit _/.mozilla/firefox/rc07:06
garryso strange, tonight, so many seem to be having trouble with some things, most if not all of us have had no problem with.07:06
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Toma-narles: i dont have an rc file there. also, just wondering what that variable sets?07:06
Hendikins|Workbrenner: Don't worry, I have to check my sticky in Firefox Support to find it myself :)07:06
Hendikins|Workbrenner: http://bene.sitesled.com/adblock.htm07:06
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brennerta07:07
p337 trying to install drivers for my wireless card, any idea why i get this error? http://pastebin.com/49743907:07
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p337or anyone feel like walking me through the installation07:08
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p337or anyone know of a page that has information on installing http://www.ralinktech.com/supp-1.htm07:08
narlestoma-, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:09
garryHave you done apt-get install build-essentials07:09
narlestoma-, i'm following the directions for fixing macromedia sound07:09
p337i followed the readme exactly.... no luck07:09
Hendikins|Workbrenner: Don't know that it will fix the problem since I haven't used the Ubuntu build much/at all (I'm not an Ubuntu user!), but I wouldn't use the original Adblock in the first place.07:09
brennerHendikins|Work: really?  i've never had any problems with it in the past07:10
brenneri must've borked something somewhere07:10
sethkp337, it isn't in the correct directory.  Not sure how it got that way, though.07:10
narlestoma-, the section called flash issues, in the flash player section07:10
jawshoewahhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/682607:10
jawshoewahthat s my firefox error07:11
jawshoewahfrom xterm07:11
Hendikins|Workbrenner: It is known to cause hangs, crashes and memory leaks in 1.5. I personally use squidGuard as an ad blocker...07:11
brennerHendikins|Work: i see.  interesting07:11
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theblueHi all.07:11
theblueIs there a way to play .gsm files at the command line?07:12
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Hendikins|Workjawshoewah: Yeah. scrap the totem plugin.07:12
sethkHendikins, is squidGuard available on the firefox add on site, or do you download it from elsewhere?07:12
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Hendikins|Workbrenner: It is also known to interfere with the operation of some plugins. Flash, Java, ActiveX (Win32), QuickTime (Win32)07:13
jawshoewah rm -f is that the syntaxt?07:13
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jawshoewahwhat is the path to the folder?07:13
Hendikins|Worksethk: squidGuard is a redirector for the squid proxy server. It isn't a firefox addon.07:13
sethkHendikins, oh, ok, I guess I wasn't paying attention.  :)07:13
brennerHendikins|Work: ab+ installed fine.  thanks for the suggestion07:13
p337ok... i got past that... http://pastebin.com/497450 the new problem07:14
Hendikins|Workjawshoewah: Open about:config, enter plugin.expose_full_path in the filter box. Only one item should appear in the list. Double-click it to set it to true. Then load about:plugins and it will tell you the full path to the plugin file.07:14
Hendikins|Workbrenner: Thanks for the heads up, I'll file that tidbit of info away. Never know when it might come in useful.07:15
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tkuphow can I check for the currently installed ubuntu version?07:15
sethkp337, forward slashes on real computers, not back slashes07:16
garrytkup, in terminal do rname07:16
jawshoewahabout:config command not found in xterm07:16
Hendikins|Worksethk: Using squid + squidGuard to block ads is somewhat akin to using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut.07:16
Hendikins|Workjawshoewah: open that *in Firefox*07:16
sethkHendikins|Work, I don't use squid, but I'm sure you are correct.07:16
jawshoewahthats pretty neat07:16
tkupgarry, rname is not a command. apt-get can't find it07:17
p337sethk: i dont even think i was supposed to use that switch... but even if i dont i get the same error07:17
garrytkup ok, I am giong to check.07:17
Hendikins|Worksethk: I use squid for other reasons, squidGuard is just a logical extension. It works very well transparently though. If you need a network-wide or multi-useragent solution, it is great (and the caching is handy too)07:17
sethkp337, there is no way you can get kerneldriversnet (concatenated like that) without supplying it somewhere.  configure doesn't invent strings of that sort.07:17
garrytkup uname -r07:18
tkupgarry, not the kernel version, the ubuntu version i.e. 5.10 or 5.0407:18
garrytkup that will give you the kernel version, breezy version is 5.0 I believe.07:18
HoboTurtleyes!07:18
HoboTurtlei got a russian to help me out!07:19
garrynot sure, then sorry.07:19
HoboTurtlewooooooooot07:19
narlestoma-,  you around?07:19
garrytkup going to try to find out/07:19
jawshoewahabout:config doesnt have a listing for totem that i see07:19
p337sethk:  i dont get what you are saying it shows up as Module install directory : /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/net to me07:19
sethkHendikins|Work, I don't not use it because I have anything against it, I don't use it because I wrote my own before it existed.07:19
Toma-i am now. sorta. setting up an NX07:19
tkupgarry, just checked "About Ubuntu" in System it barely mentions that it's 5.10. but thought I would find it somewhere else07:19
Hendikins|Worksethk: heh.07:19
sethkp337, in that case, you can't get the same error.07:19
fealzhow view hidden files in a terminal?07:20
Hendikins|Workjawshoewah: enter plugin.expose_full_path in the filter box. Only one item should appear in the list. Double-click it to set it to true. Then load about:plugins.07:20
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p337ok ill paste this one07:20
sethkp337, you said you get the same error, which would mean you get an error message with kerneldriversnet with no slashes in it.07:20
Hendikins|Workabout:plugins gives you a list of all your plugins07:20
timfrosttkup, cat /etc/issue07:20
garrytkup  doh, yep, you are correct.07:20
fealzhow do i navigate to a hidden directory using the terminal?07:20
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jawshoewahahh sorry07:20
fealzanyone know?07:21
timfrostfealz, ls -a shows the hidden files (ones starting with '.')07:21
fealzthanks a lot timfrost07:21
p337sethk: http://pastebin.com/49745607:21
tkuptimfrost, ah thanks!07:21
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tkupgarry, thanks as well07:21
sethkp337, i'd have to see the configure file.  almost always that sort of error is caused by an undefined macro.07:22
p337should i paste the configure file?07:22
OdusAlright, goodnight.07:22
sethkp337, if you like, sure, I'll take a look at it.  it may or may not help, but you have nothing to lose.07:23
p337aight07:23
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jawshoewahty that worked like a charm07:24
p337sethk: http://pastebin.com/49746307:24
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Nox_Hi07:24
Nox_Anyone have a tv card installed can take a min to help me?07:24
sethkp337, what was the line number again?  I closed the previous paste.07:25
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garrytkup welcome. I found no info on getting the  version of the OS. I did find an interesting command called info. Seems to give some info on packages installed.07:25
p337http://pastebin.com/49745607:25
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MrPocketsdfsz07:26
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p337sethk:  where is that install directory it is talking about? or i guess where does it expect it to be?07:26
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narlesanyone know how to do this?07:26
narlesOpen:07:26
narlesgedit ~/.mozilla/firefox/rc07:26
narlesAdd the line:07:26
narlesFIREFOX_DSP="none"07:26
sethkp337, wherever the source is unpacked.07:26
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sethkp337, ordinarily the same directory that configure is run from, although not always07:26
p337sethk:  cause idont think i ever copied Makefile07:26
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Nox_How do i install a TV card on unbuntu ? I instaled TvTime but i get no signal :(07:26
cozhell again07:27
sethkp337, no, the makefile is generated by ./configure07:27
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p337ah07:27
cozI would like to configure an application and I am really bad at this07:27
brennertkup: all due respect, how can you not know what ver. of an OS you've installed?07:27
n0dlNOOO i broke the install '_________________;07:27
n0dlcoz: i can fold my shirt in three steps! w00t07:27
cozn0dl hey guy congrats07:27
brennernarles: open a terminal and type that gedit command07:28
cozno more T-reex to worry about07:28
sethkp337, I see what's happening.  when it asks for the linux kernel source directory, you have to give it the linux kernel source directory.  Either you, or some script, is giving it "make install"07:28
brennernarles: you're basicaly editing a text file07:28
p337i dont think i ever unpacked the linux source directory...07:28
Nox_Hi , I need help installing my TV card , i get No siglal error while using TvTime. How do i install the tv card ? Thanks.07:28
p337i was supposed to earlier.... but then someone said all i needed was the header or something07:28
tritiumNox_: which card?  Are you sure it's supported?07:28
tkupbrenner, I just went through a dist-upgrade and had received some errors and warnings. After many retries, I wasn't convinced that I fully upgraded hoary to breezy. Hence, the need to know convincingly that it's been updated.07:29
p337sethk: do i need to unpack that?07:29
sethkp337, you did, or a script you ran did, because configure is inside the source directory07:29
Nox_Not sure of the exact model , give me a min i will check but this is a recent tv tuner from a know compagny , sec07:29
sethkp337, no, you can't get this far without first unpacking07:29
p337oh ok07:29
brennertkup: i see.  good answer. :)07:29
tkupgarry, the file /etc/issue contains the name of the release to some extent07:29
sethkp337, are you typing "make install" ?07:29
p337yes07:29
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garrytkup Thanks, n ice to know.07:30
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p337sethk: yes07:30
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brennertkup: so was the upgrade successul?07:30
sethkp337, it looks like, where you type that, you should be typing something like /usr/src/..... (wherever the kernel source lives)07:30
brennerguess so :)07:31
tritiumgarry: lsb_release -a also provides release info07:31
sethkp337, ubuntu keeps the kernel source in a different directory (different than all the other distros)07:31
p337sethk: -r'\kernel\drivers\net ?07:31
garrytkup  as long as you have changed your sync and urls in apt-get config from hoary to breezy you syould be fine07:31
sethkp337, no -r, no backslashes, and that's a _driver_ directory, you want the kernel source directory07:31
garrytritium thanks. :)07:31
tritium:)07:31
sethkp337, first, do you have the kernel source installed?07:31
p337sethk: .....i dont know07:32
narlesbrenner, but that rc is blank when i type in that first 'open07:32
narlesbrenner, command07:32
sethkp337, go into synaptic and find and install it.  If it is already installed, you'll see that in synaptic07:32
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p337sethk, oh.. i am using kubuntu if that matters07:32
p337sethk: but i know thats the same as adept07:33
sethkp337, for this case kubuntu and ubuntu are identical07:33
brennernarles: that's ok, you're creating the file07:33
p337sethk: is it linux-source?07:33
brenner*it means you're07:33
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sethkp337, that doesn't sound right.  I'm pretty sure you'll find the word "kernel" in the package name07:34
Nox_Tritium You still here?07:34
p337sethk: kernel-package?07:34
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sethkp337, keep going.  the kernel _source_ is in a separate package.07:35
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saifwhy ubuntu auto dialing at startup07:35
Se7hhi everyone07:35
saifi want to disable it07:35
jawshoewahwhats the best way to list all programs installed on a machine07:35
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p337sethk: doesnt find anything for kernel source07:35
sethkp337, let me check the nname07:35
p337sethk: ok07:35
brennerjawshoewah: easy way is thru synaptic07:36
Hendikins|Workjawshoewah: Wouldn't synaptic be the best bet (assuming you used packages for everything)?07:36
saiflet me know07:36
Nox_Tritium You here?07:36
Se7hi have some deb packages that would be great to have on repository (python module)07:36
saifhow can i disable auto dial while starting ubuntu07:36
garryp337, I am concerned, I'm wondering why you are recompiling source. Many of us  have found it unnecessary to recompile in situations where other distros might require it.07:36
Hendikins|Worksaif: doesn't it do a clock sync on startup? Disable that, because that is probably what triggers the auto-dial. That, or simply don't reboot.07:36
Nox_My tv card is a WinTV go , How can i install it?07:37
p337garry: recompiling what? the stuff for wireless?07:37
sethkp337, on my box I have kernel-source-2.6.11 and kernel-source-2.6.1007:37
p337sethk: mine says linux-source-2.6.1207:37
HaiKarate.07:37
sethkp337, good.  But you said you didn't have one.  :)07:37
sethkp337, do uname -a, make sure you are running 2.6.1207:37
Se7hi have some deb packages that would be great to have on repository (python module). Is it possible in any way to get it there by some admins or smthing?07:38
Se7h(sorry for the copy)07:38
sethkSe7h, sure.  look at the web page and find someone to email07:38
p3372.6.12-10-386 #1 Thu Dec 22 11:37:10 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux07:38
garryp337 there was tlak of kernel compiling, now I see, if i understand, you are wanting to recompile the wireless driver, and need the kernel source avail.07:38
Nox_can i get some help plz07:38
Nox_My tv card is a WinTV go , How can i install it?? Thanks.07:38
p337garry: i think that is it07:38
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p337sethk: it says it is installed though07:38
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garryp337 do you remember installing build-essentials?07:39
p337garry: yeah07:39
sethkp337, in that case, you need to type the kernel source path where you were typing "make install" before07:39
sethkp337, look in /usr/src and find the source directory name07:39
persiaSe7h: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUNewSoftware07:39
holycowwtf?07:39
holycowdapper flight 2 cd is kubuntu?07:39
fusionfoxhow can i upgrade from Horay to Breezy?07:39
p337sethk: does it matter if it is just linux headers07:40
holycowlet me check that again07:40
jawshoewahi guess my real question is when at xtrem one types $firefox and bang firefox is manifested.......where does $ look for these programs?07:40
p337sethk: linux source is there, but it is compressed07:40
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sethkp337, ok, then extract it.  you know how?07:40
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sethkp337, extract it into /usr/src.  then configure should find it without asking you for the path07:40
persiafusionfox: Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and change hoary to breezy everywhere.07:40
garryp337 good, then all ye need to do is get the source installed and I think you only need to recompile the driver itself, I'm not sure, but its been that way when I had to compile nvidia drivers, it needed kernel source, but not a kernel recompile.07:40
sethkp337, hopefully, anyway.  you have to extract it regardless.07:40
Nox_Can i get some kind of answer ..07:41
holycowhey does anyone want to confirm for me whether or not dapper flight two is supposed to be running kde?07:41
sethkgarry, that's correct.  he needs the source but he doesn't have to build the source.07:41
p337sethk,  i think last time i tried i got permission denied, how do i do it from command line so i can use sudo07:41
sethkNox_, follow the instructions in the readme file07:41
Nox_How can i install my winTV-Go Tv tuner ? THanks.07:41
sethkp337, why can't you use sudo?07:41
Myrttifusionfox: backup your /home first07:41
Nox_What readme >< its a hardware card huh07:41
garryseth yep, if ye mean build the kernel source.07:41
brennerjawshoewah: it searches dirs such as /usr/bin and other such dirs that store executables.07:41
p337sethk: from konqueror, i cannot07:41
p337sethk: how do you unzip something from command line?07:41
sethkp337, then do it from the command line.07:41
p337lol.. yeah07:42
persiaNox_: If your hardware is supported, you'll probably get the best information by searching for v4l and v4l2.07:42
sethkp337, it is probably a tar.bz207:42
p337sethk: yep07:42
sethkp337, if so, you type:  tar xvjf whatever.tar.bz207:42
jawshoewahahh so I can go through my /usr/bin to see what exactly is installed to start07:42
p337ah07:42
p337sethk: what is xvjf for?07:42
jawshoewahother than obvious places like applications07:42
sethkp337, x means extract, v means verbose, j means uncompress with bzip2, and f means you have a tar file.07:42
p337sethk: ah thanks07:43
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sethkp337, f is an anachronism.  tar means "tape archiver" and without an f it looks for a tape drive07:43
scottt106Can anyone help me setup a MN-510 usb NIC?07:43
p337sethk: ah...07:43
narlescan't get sound working with macromedia flash player.. ubuntu forum solutions are no help.. any suggestions?07:43
LinuturkI don't think my video card is working correctly. Can anyone give me some pointers? It's an Nvidia . . .07:44
garryI am not sure, the sound is supported in flash yet, I think only video when it comes to linux.07:44
p337sethk: woo extracting07:44
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p337sethk: ok thats all done, do i go and do make install again?07:44
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HoboTurtleYO07:45
HoboTurtlehaha07:45
Kool-AidHey HoboTurtle07:45
brennerjawshoewah: it's one way i guess.  albeit a really messy one.  why do you need to see every app that's installed?07:45
Kool-Aidehhehehehhehe07:45
HoboTurtlehello07:45
sethkp337, try it.  ordinarily configure is run first, but if that's what the instructions call for, then yes, do that.07:45
garryLinuturk system/adminstration/package manager search for nvidia.07:45
Kool-AidHoboTurtle, are these people being helpful?07:45
HoboTurtleyes07:45
HoboTurtlevery07:45
Kool-Aid=)07:45
p337sethk: yeah it says make config first07:45
Linuturkgarry, what am I installing?07:45
HoboTurtlebut im stuck at the dependency problem07:45
HoboTurtleim like reading some man stuff07:46
Kool-AidIf Slackware died tomorrow then Ubuntu would be my first choice07:46
garrysay Linuturk the driver for nvidia that will enable hardware accelleration.07:46
jawshoewahi somehow got xawtv into my sound-media folder in desktop it crashes comptuer when I click it while testing tv in card i want to just us e tv time and get rid of it07:46
p337sethk: seems like the same error07:46
p337sethk: make: binary operator expected07:46
sethkp337, then you'll have to type in the directory name.07:46
sethkp337, if you type "make install" at that point, you'll always get the same result07:46
p337sethk: ah.. what directory?07:47
garryLinuturk unless you've already installed it.07:47
Linuturkgarry, does it support the geforce4 440 go?07:47
sethkp337, it prompts you for the kernel source directory.  give it the kernel source directory07:47
p337sethk: oh07:47
garryLinuturk hmmm, I do not know. should be info on getting a driver at www.nvidia.com07:47
p337sethk: so like make usr/src.linux-source-2.6.12/install ?07:47
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sethkp337, I'm not sure I don't have it in front of me.  However, /usr, not just usr.07:48
narlescan't get sound working with macromedia flash player.. ubuntu forum solutions are no help.. any suggestions?07:48
persiaLinuturk: What sort of problem are you having?07:48
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p337sethk: alright07:48
sethkp337, normally the argument to make is a target.07:48
scottt106Can anyone help me setup a MN-510 usb NIC?07:48
sethkp337, what I saw in the configure script is that it prompts for the kernel path.  that may be hidden within a script.07:48
Linuturkpersia, not any problems, persay, but I want to make sure it's working to it's fullest. It got laggy when I was working on stuff, and that happened in windows before the drivers were installed.07:49
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bloodhow do i install an rpm?07:49
Hendikins|WorkYou could use alien, if that is provided07:49
bloodalien installs rpm?07:50
Linuturkhttp://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html << are the drivers there already in the package manager?07:50
Hendikins|Workalien converts to different package formats07:50
bloodis alien free?07:51
persiaLinuturk: Understood.  There are some drivers that are installed by default.  For your card, you would want the nvidia-glx-legacy package for hardware acceleration.  If this doesn't work properly, you may also need to install and compile the nvidia-legacy-kernel-source package.  Best of luck!07:51
Hendikins|WorkYes.07:51
p337sethk: nothing is working07:51
paulproteusblood: apt-get install alien.07:51
Kool-AidHoboTurtle, you there?07:51
HoboTurtleyea07:51
paulproteus!doesntwork07:51
fusionfoxwhat was the command to save and quit with vim??07:51
ubotupaulproteus: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?07:51
Kool-AidHoboTurtle, which application are you wanting to install?07:51
HoboTurtleopera07:51
garryLinuturk, should be. if you choose the wrong driver, it should refuse to install and tell you the card is not supported by the driver you are trying.07:51
HoboTurtlestill07:51
sethkp337, try the normal way to install source, which is:  ./configure07:51
Kool-AidSomeone tell HoboTurtle how to use that apt-get thingy07:51
persiafusionfox: :wq07:51
sethkp337, as step one.  in the source directory.  assuming you know where that is07:51
Linuturkgarry, from the site, or from the package manager?07:51
MadpilotHoboTurtle: you still having no joy w/ Opera?07:51
fusionfoxpersia, thx07:51
Kool-AidI am not too familiar with it since I am on slackware07:52
HoboTurtleapt-get install opera?07:52
HoboTurtleno not yet07:52
MadpilotHoboTurtle: have you read the Opera wiki page?07:52
holycowHoboTurtle, sudo dpkg -i operapackage.deb07:52
garryLinuturk the manager, the drivers are pre-compiled and optomized for breezy.07:52
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HoboTurtleits some dependency problem...says07:52
Linuturkgarry, nvidia-glx looks like the right one. or am i way off base?07:53
p337sethk, http://pastebin.com/49747407:53
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holycowHoboTurtle, then try to install the dependency07:53
garryI think you are on the right track07:53
Kool-AidDoesn't Debian/Ubuntu package management resolve dependencies?07:53
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HoboTurtlehow can i do that holycow?07:53
garrysorry that was meant for Linuturk07:53
persiaLinuturk: You have an older card.  You need the nvidia-glx-legacy package.07:53
fusionfoxpersia, i cant get it to work.... cant save with vim...07:53
holycowlook for what dependency it is looking for, then search for it on apt with apt-cache search whatever07:54
sethkp337, make /usr/src/linux-2.6.12-10-386 a symbolic link to the actually kernel source directory.07:54
holycowthen try to install what you think it needs07:54
MadpilotHoboTurtle: what's the exact depend error?07:54
liablep337: why dont you just install the kernel headers? now you need to make your own with the kernel source07:54
garryCheers at persia.07:54
p337sethk: i have that to07:54
Linuturkpersia, the geforce4 440 Go 64mb is older?07:54
p337err liable i mean07:54
persiafusionfox: What type of error do you get?  You should be able to press escape, press colon, press w, press q, press enter to save and quit.07:54
sethkp337, then what you extracted is not the kernel source07:54
garryit is older.07:54
Kool-Aidsomeone explain to HoboTurtle about how to copy and paste in linux07:54
p337i have both in usr/src07:55
Kool-AidHoboTurtle is new as you can get07:55
Kool-Aid=)07:55
HoboTurtleoh they know :P07:55
liablep337: do you have a link from /lib/modules/build, to your kernel-headers?07:55
fusionfoxpersia, non error just cant put commads oh let me try like you say07:55
Linuturkpersia, the geforce4 chipset isn't listed under that package. and it says if it isn't listed, don't use that driver07:55
Kool-AidHoboTurtle, you can post your errors in here http://www.rafb.net/paste/07:55
persiaLinuturk: I could be mistaken.  There is a note in the package about GeForce.  The newer package may also work for you.07:55
garryLinuturk, there should be archive categories.07:55
liablep337: err, i missed adir there /lib/modules/yourkernel/build07:56
Linuturkpersia, i think geforce != geforce407:56
garryHe has the option of downloading linux driver from nvidia, but I don't recalll how to install it afterwards.07:56
sethkliable, kernel source, not modules07:57
HoboTurtlenow i am seriously lost07:57
p337liable: yes there is07:57
liablesethk: no, this is for the headers.07:57
MadpilotHoboTurtle: have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser through?07:57
sethkliable, the headers aren't in /lib/modules07:57
persiaLinuturk: If GeForce ne GeForce4, then nvidia-glx should work for you.07:57
fusionfoxpersia, when i try to put apt-get  i get this E: Type 'cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] /' Unknown in line  1 from list sources /etc/apt/sources.list07:57
Linuturkhow do I restart the xserver? there is a key sequence, right?07:57
liablep337: sethk its a link..07:58
HoboTurtlesays cannot access archive07:58
p337liable: yeah, its there07:58
narlescan't get sound working with macromedia flash player.. ubuntu forum solutions are no help.. any suggestions?07:58
persiaLinuturk: Ctrl-Alt-Bksp07:59
persiafusionfox: I don't use the CDs, and am not sure how to solve that.  Sorry.07:59
liablep337: do a ls in the dir you are in, then run make again, and paste it07:59
p337liable:07:59
p337liable: ok07:59
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Linuturkit works way better now08:00
Linuturkthanks guys08:00
MadpilotHoboTurtle: what says that? (I'm not trying to be dense, but all the detail you can provide will make things easier to get help...)08:00
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garryYay, grats!08:00
HoboTurtlecan i paste the whole thing?08:01
p337liable:  what do you mean by do a make?08:01
Madpilot!paste08:01
ubotuwell, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text08:01
p337liable: ... lol i mean run make08:01
Linuturkgarry, what's a good heavy graphic's program to test it out?08:01
bloodsudo alien /dir/file -d (to change to a .deb?)08:01
Kool-AidHoboTurtle, use this site http://www.rafb.net/paste/08:01
gerald-voltpersia, did you get it to work?08:01
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HoboTurtleroot@ubuntu:/home/williamjlee# sudo dpkg -i opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb.deb08:01
HoboTurtledpkg: error processing opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb.deb (--install):08:01
HoboTurtle cannot access archive: No such file or directory08:01
HoboTurtleErrors were encountered while processing:08:01
HoboTurtle opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb.deb08:01
HoboTurtleroot@ubuntu:/home/williamjlee#08:01
Kool-AidOh, that's short enough08:01
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MadpilotHoboTurtle: first of all, you don't need root - just sudo is enough...08:02
garryLinuturk, Screen Saver Noof, and other intensive ones like atlantis and xfireworks.08:02
HoboTurtleMadpilot, well i dont know how to get rid of it :P08:02
fusionfoxpersia, i just modified my apt-get list sources, is there another thing to do besides "apt-get update and upgrade"?08:02
MadpilotHoboTurtle: close the terminal window you're using08:02
liablep337: what are you running to get the error? configure?08:02
Kool-AidHoboTurtle, 'exit'08:02
HoboTurtlehaha Kool-Aid08:02
garryshouldn't that be dist-upgrade. Correct me if I'm wrong folks.08:02
HoboTurtlethanks lots08:02
HoboTurtleaigh closed...08:03
Kool-Aidsudo is same as su, right?08:03
MadpilotHoboTurtle: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ <-- use that for future pastes, and just provide the URL here08:03
Madpilot!root08:03
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.08:03
persiafusionfox: You probably want to use dist-upgrade instead of upgrade, as otherwise it may not work.  To take advantage of the new features, you probably want to make sure that ubuntu-desktop is installed first, as otherwise you may not get the new packages.08:03
p337liable: let me get the link to the directions, ill show you the whole thing08:03
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gerald-voltCan someone with a joystick help me test a program I wrote in C?08:04
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JoeBlowhey can someone help me make a swap partition on my harddrive, linux wont let me make more then 4 partitions08:04
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HoboTurtlebrb08:05
garryYou should be able to create an extended partition, you can only have four primary partitions.08:05
HoboTurtlegotta drain the lizzard08:05
liableJoeBlow: you need to make an extended partition, or you can just make a swapfile08:05
JoeBlowliable, how do i make an extended partitions?08:05
p337liable: sethk: http://pastebin.com/49748208:05
garryyeah, a swapfile sounds like a better idea08:05
writer HoboTurtle: I have a problem with Opera too08:05
JoeBlowhow do i do it?08:05
Linuturkanything else more intense?08:05
liableJoeBlow: with whatever tool you have for making partitions08:06
JoeBlowliable, gparted, doesnt work right for me08:06
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garryI I don't know about swap file making, but for partition, cfdisk /dev/devicename08:06
HoboTurtleokay08:06
HoboTurtlewriter, at least you are more experienced08:06
garryIf you have room for another, if you have to resize you'll have to use a parttion editor08:07
sethkgarry, swap partitions, the same way.  Normally you only use a swap file for an unexpected temporary need for additional virtual memory.08:07
Kool-AidJoeBlow, http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Partition.html08:07
JoeBlowgarry, so cfdisk, /dev/sda08:07
Kool-AidJoeBlow, google is your friend08:07
Kool-AidJoeBlow, learn to use google08:07
Kool-Aid=)08:07
garryJoeBlow Yep08:07
garryseth Yep, going to have to look that up. Thanks for info on the swap file stuff.08:08
writerHoboTurtle: Opera good work on Ubuntu 5.04 but on 5.10 other library08:08
liablep337: wow, thats a retarded driver.. where are you getting stuck? paste the output of ls -a08:08
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JoeBlowgarry, says fatal error, could open drives or something08:08
HoboTurtlelucky u at least u know what u are talking about08:08
HoboTurtlei am lost all the way08:08
p337liable: well i am starting over08:08
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JoeBlowgarry, ohh ok, got it08:09
garryJoeBlow Good. :)08:09
Madpilotwriter: funny, I had trouble on 5.04 w/ Opera, but none on 5.10...08:09
Linuturkgarry, fireworkx runs slow08:09
JoeBlowgarry, but it reads alot of my empty space as "unusable"08:09
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tweek888I kind of edited /etc/mtab without saving, is there a way to regenerate the file? :\08:10
tweek888without backing up*08:10
garryJoeBlow hmmm, that don't sound right. Hmmm, could it be foreign partitions that need to be removed.08:10
liablep337: well, when you get stuck, paste the entire output from where you started to paster.08:11
writerI worked with Opera on the Hoary. Very nice08:11
p337liable: alright08:11
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Linuturkif my card can handle half life 2 on windows, shouldn't it handle the fireworkx screensaver fine?08:11
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persiatweek888: You can find most of the information in /proc/mounts, but the files are a little different.08:11
garryLinuturk yes, it does, that is normal. It even runs slow on my Nvidia 6800 Ultra OC. That' s why its a good benchmark.08:11
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tweek888ok thanks persia08:12
Linuturkwell, good. I got worried there for a minute08:12
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garryLinuturk different methods of addressing card, one is open gl, other is directx.08:12
HoboTurtlehey Kool-Aid08:12
HoboTurtlewhy isnt this working out for me08:13
HoboTurtle:(08:13
Linuturklinux uses open gl08:13
Linuturkwindows uses directx08:13
MadpilotHoboTurtle: have you installed .debs before?08:13
garryyep08:13
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Linuturkso, directx > open gl08:15
HoboTurtleno i have never done it before Madpilot08:15
liablep337: i am sure i have build modules for that card for someone, and there was a sourceforge project for them. trying to find it now..08:15
p337liable:  oh ok... cool.. i got stuck btw....08:15
Linuturkwill directx always be windows only?08:16
MadpilotHoboTurtle: OK - it's not hard, usually, you just have to be exact on the command line - first off, have you read that Opera wiki page?08:16
garryMight be, but I've seen some truly awesome effects in open-gl08:16
Xnoshello... i use vcdimager and it seems that generate invalid cue and bin images... this because i try to burn with nerlinux and baker08:16
HoboTurtleyes08:16
p337liable: http://pastebin.com/49748608:16
HoboTurtleoh hold on, i got a new message08:16
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Xnossomeone have the same... trouble08:16
Xnossorry my english08:16
Linuturkgarry, can you point me to some?08:16
HoboTurtlehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/682808:17
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JoeBlowit doesnt matter waht prog i used, or how many times i do, when i change one of my partitions to swap, afte ri change it, linux puts it back to whatever it was08:18
garryLinuturk, it runs under kde only, but its called Euphoria. You can have kde and gnome on ubuntu btw. I got the kde from package manager.08:18
MadpilotHoboTurtle: in a terminal, do "sudo apt-get install xlibs"08:18
timfrostp337, at the prompt 'Linux kernel source directory [/usr/src/linux-2.6.12-10-386] ', just hit ENTER08:18
Linuturki sorta loathe kde, anything that'll run in gnome?08:18
liablep337: cp ./Makefile ./.08:18
garryJoeBlow, are you using the w command to write the table when you are done?08:18
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JoeBlowgarry, no, how do i do it?08:19
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Kool-AidHoboTurtle, find Ubuntu packages for xlib6g, xlibs, libqt3-mt and libqt3c102-mt.  Looks as that you'll have to install those packages manually08:19
MadpilotLinuturk: gnome & kde apps will run in the other DE, no problem08:19
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p337liable: cp: `./Makefile' and `././Makefile' are the same file08:19
garryJoeBlow if you are using cfdisk just highlight write, or if fdisk just hit the w key.08:19
HoboTurtlehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/682908:20
Linuturkgarry, i just googled Euphoria, but i got lots back. do you have a specific link?08:20
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Kool-AidHoboTurtle, check this site out.... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78626.html08:20
p337timfrost: Linux source tree '/usr/src/linux-2.6.12-10-386' is incomplete or missing!08:20
garrysay Linuturk it comes with kde.08:20
p337liable: says thats the same file08:20
JoeBlowgarry, ok, did that, didnt work08:21
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MadpilotHoboTurtle: hmm, nice set of error messages! :P Sorry, I've got no idea what most of that means...08:21
Linuturkgarry, o i misread08:21
Kool-AidHoboTurtle, copy and paste those lines....08:21
garryJoeBlow ye might have to reboot or do a /sync08:21
timfrostliable, p337 is issuing p337, try speciifying /usr/src/linux-2.6.12 at that prompt.08:21
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HoboTurtleKool-Aid: lol, says i need to apt-get -f install something08:22
p337timfrost: you mean make /usr/src/linux-2.6.12/install08:22
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p337?08:22
HoboTurtleKool-Aid: what the hell am i supposed to fix....08:22
Kool-AidHoboTurtle, follow the steps on that link08:22
Kool-Aidhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78626.html08:22
garryjoeBlow you might have to sudo cfdisk /dev/devicename08:22
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p337timfrost: if so... that gets an error too08:23
timfrost p337, no.  the prompt is asking for the directory name.  That is  /usr/src/linux-2.6.1208:23
p337timfrost: oh ok08:24
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garryjoeBlow you might have to sudo cfdisk /dev/devicename08:24
timfrostp337, the configure process is gathering ionformation, and needs input from you.  You need to answer the questions.08:24
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JoeBlowgarry, yea did that08:24
JoeBlowand did write08:24
sobersabrehi guys... is there ubuntu developers chan on irc ?08:25
garrysay JoeBlow is it working now?08:25
JoeBlowgarry, it reads it in cfdisk, but not in fstab08:25
garryJoeBlow it was for a swap file right?08:25
JoeBlowgarry, yea08:25
timfrostp337, if you are using breezy or hoary, you will need to install gcc-3.4, and set the build up to use that, because the kernel is compiled with 3.408:25
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p337timfrost: ok, ill do that now08:26
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p337timfrost: i need 3.4 even if 4.0 is installed?08:27
timfrostp337, yes, because kernel modules need to be built with the 3.4 compiler on hoary and breezy08:28
garryJoeBlow I think the line needs to say /dev/partitionname none swap sw 0 0 and to insert the line do in terminal sudo gedit /etc/fstab08:28
p337timfrost: k08:28
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p337timfrost: http://pastebin.com/497491 at least its a different error08:30
JoeBlowgarry, under type, put swap?08:30
JoeBlowgarry, do u have a swap file u can paste the whole thing in here?08:31
JoeBlowgarry, the line for it08:31
HoboTurtleokay thanks for great help08:31
HoboTurtleill be back tomorrow08:31
HoboTurtleim too tired08:31
p337timfrost: http://www.ralinktech.com/supp-1.htm am i choosing the wrong one of these??08:31
garryJoeBlow oh, this line I gave you is for a swap partition.08:31
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JoeBlowgarry, yea but it has to many things for me08:31
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garryJoeBlow someone said a swap part would be better.08:31
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JoeBlowgarry, none under type?, and the swap sw under options?08:32
garryJoeBlow oh yes, when you go to create a fifth partition, you get the choice to make an extended one instead of primary.08:32
garrysay JoeBlow  sec, let me copy and paste my line .08:32
JoeBlowgarry, ok08:32
garryJoeBlow /dev/hdd5       none            swap    sw              0       008:33
timfrostHoboTurtle. did you run 'sudo apt-get update' after changing sources.list?08:33
p337sethk: timfrost should i try this one?08:33
JoeBlowgarry, so none for type?08:34
UncleDmysql/lighttpd question. For some reason mysql_config didn't come with my "packaged" ubuntu apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client. To compile lighttpd with mysql support, i need that file. Any ideas?08:34
garrynone for mount pount, swap is the file type, sw is the optin and the two zeros I don't know what they do.08:34
JoeBlowgarry, or for mount point?08:34
fusionfoxpersia, and how do i make sure that ubuntu-desktop is installed first??08:35
garrysee above08:35
JoeBlowand then swap for type, and then sw in options?08:35
garryJoeBlow yep08:35
JoeBlowgarry key08:35
garrysay JoeBlow just make sure you got the swap partition created before adding line and rebooting.08:35
JoeBlowgarry, just checked, its their08:36
JoeBlowgarry, thanks bro08:36
timfrostp337, I am not sure.  I came in part way through youir attempt to build the driver.08:36
garrywelcome. glad to make a difference08:36
JoeBlowgarry, thats why i came to ubuntu, best community support08:36
p337timfrost: trust me, you have not missed much, i have accomplished nothing08:36
UncleDgarry: For some reason mysql_config didn't come with my "packaged" ubuntu apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client. To compile lighttpd with mysql support, i need that file. Any ideas? Ubuntu installed: mysql Ver 14.7 Distrib 4.1.12, for pc-linux-gnu (i486) using readline 4.308:36
persiafusionfox: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop08:36
garryyou bet, and one of the most civil groups here.08:36
p337timfrost: i know that it is a ralink driver.. i am gonna try this source forge one.. to see if it is easier08:37
timfrostp337, good luck.08:37
p337thanks08:37
fusionfoxpersia, oh oh i see ubuntu desktop on the dist-upgrade list so i think it is getting updated =308:37
garryUncleD Sorry, only guess is keep looking for missed or different mysql related packages.08:38
persiafusionfox: If that is the case, it is being updated, and the dependencies will pull in all the new developer-recommended software for breezy.  Good luck!08:38
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UncleDgarry: Does ubuntu support 5.0.18?08:38
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sobersabrehi guys.08:39
sobersabredoes dapper allow one to actually work ?08:39
garrysay UncleD if it is in the regular repositories it should if its in contrib or muliverse or universe, I'm not sure.08:39
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SeveasUncleD, not yet08:40
Madpilotsobersabre: not sure - but to answer your earlier question, try #ubuntu-devel for the devs08:40
garrysleepy time, gngiht all. sleep well, ... eventually. :)08:41
Kr0ntabheya peoples....08:41
fusionfoxpersia,  whaaa?? is that good or bad??08:41
p337timfrost: how do i know if i meet these requirements? http://pastebin.com/49749508:42
persiafusionfox: I think it is good to get the newer software selections as well as the newer packages.  Your opinion will depend on your experience.08:42
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timfrostp337, you won't meet the kernel restriction on breezy of hoary, as the latest kernel for them is 2.6.12, and that driver is for 2.6.13 and later.08:44
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p337timfrost: so this isnt gonna work....08:45
p337lame08:45
UncleDSeveas: my problem is that ubuntu didn't install mysql_config and in order to install lighttpd with mysql support, I need that file w/ mysql installed.08:45
timfrostp337, sorry.08:45
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UncleDWhat is the way to uninstall mysql via apt-get?08:47
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persiaUncleD: sudo aptitude purge mysql-common08:50
UncleDwhat is the diff between aptitude and apt-get? they are the same08:50
UncleD?08:50
Turicashello. i think that's a bug in nautilus. someone can test it for me?08:50
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Turicashello. i think that there's a bug in nautilus. can anyone help me on test this bug [and report] ?08:51
SeveasUncleD, different programs for the same purpose08:51
persiaUncleD: Some syntax is a little different.  Aptitude allows packages to be marked "automatically installed", for automatic uninstallation when they are unused, and aptitude has a dselect-like front-end available.08:51
p337timfrost: did some looking around.. you ever try ndiswrapper?08:52
persiaUncleD: Also, aptitude does not support source downloads or compiles (that I have found), and there appears to be no direct analog to `apt-get install -f`08:53
timfrostp337, no.  But there is info in the Wiki and forums.08:54
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UncleDpersia: Can you check for a file called mysql_config on your system?08:54
p337timfrost: maybe ill try that tomorrow... i am frustrated now... im booting windows and going to bed, lol08:54
p337timfrost: thanks for your help though08:55
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brian_what avi player do u guys use, i normally use mplayer, but its giving me trouble on one of my avi's08:55
persiaUncleD: I don't have mysql installed, but apt-file reports that it should be in libmysqlclient-dev.08:55
liablep337: the open source drivers dont work?08:55
UncleDpersia, how did you check that?08:56
p337liable: i couldnt get them to.........08:56
liablep337: sorry been trying to get the ralink ones to compile. the scripts dont want to play, buti got it to configure at least08:56
persiaUncleD: `apt-file search mysql_config`08:56
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UncleDhow come my apt-file search returns no such thing..08:56
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liablep337: couldnt get em to compile?08:57
UncleDpersia: Do you have some special sources uncommented?08:57
p337liable: i couldnt get them to do anything08:57
holycowthat should be apt-cache08:57
holycowmaybe not :)08:57
holycowlol08:57
siimohi do any of the onboard VGA cards work with ubuntu? like the SiS chipset or the S3 unichrome (i mean any non intel)08:57
liablep337: what was the errors?08:58
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persiaUncleD: Have you run apt-file update recently?  Other than that, it could just be that we have different repositories configured.  Mine are a bit of a mess.08:58
holycowsiimo, there is no single repository of info on that, generally you start with google08:58
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brian_what avi player do u guys use, i normally use mplayer, but its giving me trouble on one of my avi's08:58
p337liable: http://pastebin.com/497491 was the most recent i think08:59
holycowi use totem for everything except qt708:59
persiaslimo: There's a list started at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards08:59
holycowtotem-xine more specifically with w32codecs, not totem-gstreamer08:59
siimopersia, thanks09:00
liablep337: no, thats the ralink, what about the open source ones?09:01
p337liable: oh i was dont meet the pre requesites09:01
p337-was09:01
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liablep337: which were?  http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Downloads09:02
timfrostliable, the open-sourfce driver doesn't support kernel 2.6.12 - sse  http://pastebin.com/49749509:02
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persiaUncleD: I have all the sources uncommented, and some extra sources configured.  On the other hand, it appears that libmysqlclient12-dev 4,0,24-10ubuntu2 is part of breezy, and contains the file.09:03
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errrIm getting ready to move from gentoo to ubuntu, I have a question about some of my spare disks. When I do the install to hda will I be able to keep the data on hdb and hde and hdf intact w/o problems, or would it be better to unplug those drives for the install then plug them in after?09:03
p337liable: # Only 2.6.13 and higher kernels are supported09:04
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liablep337: so get a 2.6.13 kernel.09:04
p337liable: how do i do that?09:04
holycowerrr, plug them in after ... just in case09:04
persiaerrr: As long as you arrange for a manual partitioning, you can leave everything plugged in.  If you want automatic arrangement, it may be safer to remove them.09:04
holycowerrr, you will need to manually add them to /etc/fstab when you plug them in, but thats not a prob09:04
errrholycow, persia ok thanks09:04
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liablep337: ah, you're on hoary?09:05
p337liable: breezy09:05
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errrafter 2 1/2 years of gentoo I think I have had enough. I want the ease my laptop has :) thanks for the advise :)09:05
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liablep337: whats the lates kernel image?09:06
ubuntunbm09:06
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p337liable: what does that mean? the version? 2.6.1209:06
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liablep337: sec09:06
p337liable: ...oh nvm i see what you are saying09:06
p337liable:  there is another thats higher, but i dont think it is "stable"09:07
liablep337: a 2.6.13 is more than stable by now..09:07
p337liable:  oh and im using kubuntu if that makes a differnece09:07
liablep337: nope09:07
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liablep337: sec, i am sure i have done the driver on a sarge kernel09:08
p337liable:  ok09:08
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liablep337: where did you see that about needing a 2.6.13 kernel?09:13
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liablep337: i cant see anwhere in the docs about it.09:13
p337liable:  in the README09:13
liablep337: p337 where did you get it?   http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Downloads09:14
p337from source forge, but i think thats the same file09:15
liablep337: well, it says it works on 2.4...09:15
p337liable:  rt2x00-2.0.0-b3 right?09:15
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liablep337: 1.1.009:16
liablep337: get the r2500 one09:16
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p337liable:  oh ok... i just assumed... the newest version09:17
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p337liable: ..uggh error while doing the make install09:22
p337liable: ill try with sudo09:22
liablep337: yeah, you need root privs for install..09:23
p337liable: i cant tell if it worked or not09:23
topylithen it usually has worked :)09:23
liablep337: if you didnt get errors, then it did.09:23
liablep337: modprobe rt250009:24
p337liable:  just this grep: /etc/modprobe.conf: No such file or directory09:24
p337append 'alias ra0 rt2500' to /etc/modprobe.conf09:24
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liablep337: thats ok09:24
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topylip337: unix philosophy: don't bother the user with messages, unless you fail (and then, fail loudly) =)09:24
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p337topyli: lol09:25
p337liable: so what do i do know?09:25
p337now**09:25
liablep337: ifconfig -a09:25
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liableshould have a wlan0 iirc09:25
gerald-voltcan someone with a joystick help me test my program09:26
liablep337: you did the modprobe right?09:26
p337liable: no09:26
p337liable: lol.. whats that09:26
liablerepeat after me (into the keyboard)   sudo modprobe rt250009:27
p337lol.. ok09:27
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p337...wlan0 still not there09:27
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p337liable:  etho lol ra0 sit009:28
liablep337: paste the output from ifconfig -a to #flood09:28
liableah, ra009:28
liableiwconfig09:28
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liablep337: now just try and configure it with whatever thing you have for doing that stuff09:29
p337liable: http://pastebin.com/49751409:29
iddy_can someone remind me of the entry i need to insert into /ect/modules to get a Twinhan DTB-T card working on Ubuntu Breezy? ( the card is also known as a Twinhan 1020a)09:30
brian_hello, i installed ubuntu a few hours ago and im having a few issues that are frustrating me to no end. is there anyone available to help?09:30
p337liable: so what should i do now?09:30
liablep337: use whatever gui thing you have to turn it on.09:31
p337liable: kwifi manager?09:31
liablep337: does anything show up in iwconfig?09:31
brian_hello?09:31
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liablebrian_: just ask..09:31
p337liable: yes09:32
p337liable: ra0 seems to seem some sort of signal09:32
liablep337: then try kwifi09:32
bloodhow i install a .deb?09:32
liabledpkg -i foo.deb09:32
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liablep337: if you have wpa (g) turned on for your ap, then make it wep, cause g wont work.09:33
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p337liable:  its open right now09:33
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liableok09:33
melonipoikahi all, i have a problem with the wireless and i have no idea what to do anymore, i hope someone could help me...09:34
p337liable: i scan for networks.. nothing found09:34
p337liable:  i am 3 feet from my router09:34
melonipoikai'm connecting to internet trhough another pc, that has the internet connection09:34
liablep337: i dunno if that card supports scanning, just put your ssid in09:34
melonipoikaso i have an ad-hoc connetcion09:34
p337oh ok...09:34
liablep337: actually, iirc it does..09:34
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melonipoikait was working fine, but now i cannot make even a ping09:35
bloodhow i browse as root?09:35
melonipoikaany idea?09:35
p337liable: WOOO connected09:35
liable:)09:35
p337liable:  awesome thanks09:35
liableyw09:35
p337liable: lol i was ready to give up, boot windows, and go to sleep09:35
melonipoika#ubuntu-forums09:35
melonipoikauy09:35
melonipoikasorry09:35
liablehah09:35
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brian_alright. im having a hell of a time accessing my internal wireless card. its a broadcom on a compaq r3000. ive loaded ndiswrapper and the option to now load a driver appears, but 1. i cant find the right driver for my card and 2. the driver i did try ,"bcmwl5a", found the device but failed to load it properly. i desperatley need help09:36
liablep337: now go grab a beer and sit outside with it and drink while you surf the net and watch the sun go down :)09:37
liablebrian_: browse what?09:37
liableerr09:37
p337liable:  lol.... good idea... except the sun is about to rise09:38
p3373:38 am09:38
brian_liable: im sorry, what do you mean by browse what?09:38
iddy_6:38pm here09:38
iddy_is great09:38
liablebrian_: sorry wrong nick09:38
iddy_and neighbours has just started09:38
iddy_woo09:38
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liableiddy_: qld?09:38
brian_liable: its cool09:39
Seveasiddy_, where is 'here'?09:39
iddy_Brissie QLD09:39
liablebrian_: check out tuxmobil.org09:39
brian_liable: alright ill look through there, thanks09:40
brian_my other issue is when i go to device manager all of my devices say unknown vendor and status is just "status". my biggest concern is that my laptop is hyperthreaded and its only registering one processor. does anyone know what might be causing all of this??09:41
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Fujitsubrian_: Have you got the smp kernel?09:42
liablebrian_: do you have the smp kernel?09:42
liable!lose me09:42
ubotuliable: Did you get hit by a windmill?09:42
liable!stupid bot09:42
ubotustupid liable09:42
FujitsuApparnelt.y09:42
brian_fujitsu and liable: imsorry im very new to linux, what is the smp kernel?09:43
trukulobrian_: multiprocessor09:43
brian_trukulo: where would i get the smp kernel?09:43
Fujitsubrian_: Install linux-image-686-smp09:43
trukulobrian_: aptitude or apt-get09:43
liablewell, the apps go from unstable to testing to stable :)09:46
liabledoh..09:46
Xnoshi..09:46
brian_okay great, thanks :]  does anyone know what is accounting for the rest of my devices to show up unknown?09:47
liablebrian_: does lspci show them?09:48
iddy_never mind the question i asked above, i found the answer here > http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Twinhan_VP-1020A09:48
brian_liable: yes09:48
liablebrian_: as the right devices? or unknown vendor etc?09:49
highvoltageHi. I have a problem with mysql in bugzilla.09:49
highvoltagewhen i try to open a page, I get:09:50
highvoltageinstall_driver(mysql) failed: DBD::mysql object version 2.9006 does not match bootstrap parameter 2.9007 at /usr/lib/perl/5.8/DynaLoader.pm line 245.09:50
highvoltageCompilation failed in require at (eval 13) line 3.09:50
highvoltageany idea on how to fix that?09:50
brian_liable: its showing 90% unknown devices, but all of the vendors are labled correctly it seems.09:50
liablebrian_: hrm, try    sudo update-pciids09:50
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Xnosi have question friends... why when i convert a cue file to iso with bchunk this make tow files... what image i have to burn iso1 or iso209:52
brian_that seemed to fix most of them, an ISA and PCI bridge are both still unknown however.09:53
liablebrian_: is this a very new box?09:53
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liablebrian_: give it time for the developers to catch up.09:54
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liableInzion: not yet anyway09:54
liablegrrr09:54
brian_liable: the comp's a year old, but i just wasnt sure if it was normal for the device manager to neglect to show any activity or labeling.09:55
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p337hey... i saw this command earlier... for benchmarking or something.. and it was a picture of gears.. anyone know what i am talking about?09:55
liableglxgears09:55
p337cool thanks09:56
sudharshwhich one glxgears?09:56
p337are there any others like it?09:56
brian_well thanks for the help everyone :] 09:56
Xnosi have question friends... why when i convert a cue file to iso with bchunk this make tow files... what image i have to burn iso1 or iso2?09:57
Amaranthglxgears is _NOT_ a benchmarking app09:57
Amaranthand never say it is around daniels :P09:57
sudharshwell atleast u get to know the state of affairs with ur video card09:58
p337lol.... well.. there was some ridiculous parameter at the end of it to make it give fps09:58
p337what was that?09:58
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liablep337: kill it and it tellls you09:58
midwinter!glxgears09:59
ubotumethinks glxgears is To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"09:59
joesihi all09:59
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midwinterbut yeah, not a benchmark.09:59
p337ah.. cool thanks09:59
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sudharshthen a ques arises.....waht benchmark tools are available10:00
SweetestSavage252.869 FPS =p10:00
sudharshthats pretty slow10:00
sudharsh3d accel aint enabled...it seems10:00
SweetestSavagemidwinter, kinda surprising that's the actual command to display the FPS lol10:00
p33715020.586 FPS10:01
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p337are there any other apps like that?10:01
sudharshglxinfo givs a text output...10:01
p337or... for actual benchmarking i guess10:01
Amaranthmidwinter: is that really the argument you have to give it to make it output numbers? :P10:01
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SweetestSavageAmaranth, yeah lol10:02
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SweetestSavageAmaranth, try it10:02
Amaranthyeah, if i wasn't on OS X right now...10:02
SweetestSavageAh xD10:02
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odatheya10:05
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p337thanks for the help everyone10:10
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sudharshhi..i hav a SiS 315 series video onboard10:11
sudharshthe prop driver offered by SiS didnt work...10:11
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sudharshIs there by any chance I could make 3d accel work in my card10:11
_max_yes10:12
_max_there are usually other drivers than the ones made by manufacturor10:12
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_max_try searching for one of those :)10:12
_max_the one they supply probably works, you just might have missed something.10:12
odatsudharsh, did you reconfigure you card first?10:12
sudharshi sppose u r refering to the thomas win*10:12
sudharshi did get detected outta the box10:13
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sudharshsomeguy named winischroffer has built the driver but his website says there aint any support for 3d accl10:13
sudharshin 315 series10:13
jadHi, guys I'm not able to login to gnome, I'm getting 'your session last more than 10 seconds check ~/.xsession-errors' and in xsessions-error file I got _IceTransNoListen: unable to find transport tcp _IceTansMkdir: uid !=0 /dev/x will not be created10:14
jadany idea?10:14
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odatsudharsh, try this and read when it asks about dri v4l and stuff mark all of them   in terminal type    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:14
sudharshwill do...10:14
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odatjad google it that is where i found the cure   i can't remember it now though10:15
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cozmorning all10:15
odatsup coz10:16
Despenmorning10:16
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cozodat not much10:16
jadodat: I cannot google, I'm using terminal now with Ircii client10:16
cozDespen morning10:16
_max_jad : lynx210:16
Amaranthjad: sudo rm ~/.ICEauthority10:16
odataha thats it amaranth i couldn't remember10:17
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odattoo tired to google lol10:17
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cozGuys I keep trying to configure and install a few apps with ./configure && make && sudo make install10:17
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odati was playing around with dapper today10:17
jadAmaranth: it worked! but would you please tell me why it happens so I can avoid being in this situation again ?10:17
odatwow lots and lots of new stuff10:17
sudharshdidint work.....got the dri stuff in xorg.conf by default10:17
odatpretty cool10:17
cozbut nothing installs10:17
Amaranthjad: Did you run k3b recently?10:18
FriarWill "Integrated Intel Graphic Media Accelerator 900" graphics card work well with ubuntu?10:18
odatsudharsh, you have to restart after you reconfigure10:18
johndarkhorseAmaranth: you're either up early or late10:18
sudharshyup10:18
sudharshwell i did10:18
Amaranthjohndarkhorse: Really late. :P10:18
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jadAmaranth: yes, and I run it as root because I have problem with cdrecord permissions10:18
Amaranthjad: that's what does it10:19
odatanyone remember the command to check dri status10:19
jadAmaranth: running k3b or running it as root ?10:19
sudharshtry glxinfo10:19
Amaranthodat: glxinfo, iirc10:19
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Amaranthjad: running it as root10:19
deFryskAmaranth, funny had exactly same prob for the same reasons :)10:19
sudharshodat, check for direct rendering10:19
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odatsudharsh, if dri is on then you should be good to go10:19
jadAmaranth: ah than I should find the solution for the cdrecord permissions10:19
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Amaranthjad: k3b should tell you how to fix them10:20
jadAmaranth: Thank you, lemme get back to this channel with xchat10:20
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sudharshok odat...dri isnt enabled..the trouble lies with my card10:20
jadexit10:20
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sudharshthe open source driver provided by xorg doesnt do any good for SiS 65010:20
Madeyeback10:20
AmaranthMadeye: jad?10:20
odati had problems getting dri enable with onboard graphics    so i just got a cheap nvidia card10:20
sudharshis there any way i could emulate different cards10:20
MadeyeAmaranth,  k3b just says 'run k3bsetup' but I didn't know what to do after that10:21
MadeyeAmaranth, yes Jad :-)10:21
odatyou can pick 128 mb nvidia card for almost nothing now10:21
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AmaranthMadeye: run k3bsetup from a terminal? :)10:21
cozyo soy tu padre10:21
cozhello again10:21
sudharshoh well....jus bought an ngage qd....10:21
odathmmm i don't understand the obsession with k3b10:21
sudharshand moreover i have to upgrade my whole rig10:21
odatngage?10:22
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MadeyeAmaranth,  ok, shall I tick the 'use bruning group' ?10:22
AmaranthMadeye: I guess so...10:22
sudharshyup....i live in india and get those things really cheap10:22
odati usually buy nvidia just because i know it supported well10:22
MadeyeAmaranth,   there is no burning group10:22
Despendo ubuntu use alsa?10:22
AmaranthMadeye: I guess the answer is no. :P10:23
cozDespen yes10:23
odatDespen yea10:23
Despenok.. thanks10:23
AmaranthDespen: Every distro that has a 2.6 kernel uses alsa.10:23
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sudharshtry multimedia system selector in System>Preferences10:23
odatbut ubuntu uses it the best lololol10:23
MadeyeAmaranth, heh I mean k3b says 'There is no group burning.'10:23
odatmadeye are you using gnome or kde?10:23
cozMadeye are you using Kde10:23
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odatbeat ya coz lol10:23
Madeyeodat, gnome10:24
cozyeah lol10:24
cozuse gnomebaker10:24
odatdamn it coz10:24
odatlol10:24
cozlol10:24
odatyea what he said10:24
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odatk3b is overrated in my book10:24
Amaranthor, you know, use the best burning app on linux :P10:24
odati luv gnomebaker and serpentine for that matter10:24
Madeyek3b is much better guys10:24
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cozMadeye use gnomebaker or nerolinux but nerolinux is a bit quwerky10:24
AmaranthMadeye: does k3bsetup offer anything else?10:25
Amaranth!k3b10:25
odatmadeye at doing what?10:25
ubotuit has been said that k3b is "A sophisticated KDE cd burning application", its said to be the best burning GUI out there!10:25
Amaranthbleh10:25
Amaranth!forget k3b10:25
ubotuAmaranth: i forgot k3b10:25
cozNO WAY10:25
sudharshwell it can cr8 bootable cds10:25
odatlol what can't10:25
sudharshi guess gnome-baker cant10:25
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MadeyeAmaranth,  no10:25
odatsorry that was just silly sudharsh10:26
odati don't like having all those kde libs on my system10:26
cozguys just in case i did it wrong initially how do test that my name is registered?10:26
AmaranthMadeye: make sure you always run k3b with gksudo then10:26
AmaranthMadeye: instead of sudo10:26
sudharsherr................sorry why odat10:26
cozodat I don't blame you10:27
cozthey are slow on gnome10:27
deFryskcoz Password accepted - you are now recognized when you log in10:27
Madeyeokay Amaranth10:27
cozdeFrysk great but how do I check that?10:27
deFryskcoz, when you loginto freenode you can see that10:27
Amaranthcoz: just type /ns identify <password>10:27
cozthanks amaranth10:28
Amaranthcoz: and then you'll be sure10:28
Madeyeso there is no way to fix the cdrecord permissons?10:28
AmaranthMadeye: I guess not.10:28
UncleDAmaranth: I'd like to disable apache2 and run lighttpd in its place. I was forced to install apache2 for some dependency (php5 i think?) - how can I properly disable it10:28
deFryskMadeye, in dapper ?10:28
AmaranthMadeye: running with gksudo isn't so bad10:28
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odatkde will survive but far behind gnome simply because why would any real developer want to learn qt when writing software for linux. I mean if they want to eventually create commercial software they have to pay to use QT. When they can create whatever kind of software they want free or commercial for linux for free using gtk. That is why you have seen a sudden push towards Gnome.10:28
AmaranthUncleD: err, apache2 is only installed if you install libapache2-mod-php510:29
AmaranthUncleD: which isn't needed for php5, only for apache2/php5 integration10:29
MadeyeAmaranth,  Okay, thanks :-)10:29
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Amaranthodat: Don't start.10:29
odatcoz kde is just not what i consider to be in the spirit of linux10:29
sudharshinstall from source10:29
UncleDAmaranth: oops. My mistake. How do I remove it?10:29
odatAmaranth, sorry10:29
cozwell my first experience with KDE was redHat I hated it there I hate it on ubuntu10:30
AmaranthUncleD: if you try to remove apache2 it should remove libapache2-mod-php5 too10:30
sudharshi guess installin apache n php binaries aint a good idea10:30
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polpakodat: paying for software isn't a "bad thing". Paying for software you can't fix/update/make changes to is.10:30
UncleDAmaranth - apt-get remove apache2 sound right?10:30
deFryskcoz, some like this other that , no need to discuss that10:30
odatcoz, i feel more comfortable with gnome and i like gnome philosophy more than kde's10:30
AmaranthUncleD: sudo apt-get remove apache2, yeah10:30
deiciduscan someone help me connect my external hard drive? it worked until recently, then randomly unmounted, and now wont mount.10:31
polpakdeFrysk: from a end user perspective you're right10:31
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sudharshUNcleD next time install from tarballs10:31
sudharshlol10:31
UncleDsudarsh: why?10:31
Amaranthsudharsh: installing from apt works just fine10:31
sudharshgives u greater control10:31
polpakdeFrysk: from a developer perspective there are certainly a number of advantages to using gnome10:31
Amaranthsudharsh: that isn't true10:31
deFryskpolpak, this is a help channel10:31
deFrysknot a channel for de wars10:32
odatpolpak, I have no problem paying for software but i'm not paying the developers money to pay for the rights to right software for a platform they could have written to for free10:32
sudharshwell for one thing u dont get into dependency issues10:32
Amaranthpolpak, deFrysk, odat, coz: GNOME vs KDE to #ubuntu-offtopic10:32
odatAmaranth, again sorry10:32
deFryskAmaranth, I just try to end this discussion10:32
odatanyway how are you amaranth lol10:32
AmaranthNext comment on the topic gets a +q :P10:32
Amaranthtired10:32
odathow about those steelers10:33
odatlol10:33
odatjust kiddin10:33
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Amaranthdid they win?10:33
odatyea carson palmer got hurt on the second down of the game10:33
odatthat is why they won10:33
cozAmaranth #ubuntu-offtopic10:33
sudharshUncleD are u installin php for learnin10:33
odatlol10:33
odatanyway anyone been playing with dapper?10:33
Amaranthcoz: haha10:33
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cozI have played with dapper and uninstalled it pretty fast10:34
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Amaranthcoz: football won't get 20 people flaming10:34
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cozI hate football10:34
Amaranthodat: i have, but not recently10:34
odatcoz, there are some pretty cool new features10:34
sudharshlike....10:34
cozright now the live cd offers nothing new or exciting10:34
cozthe install same thing most things are broken10:34
odatone is the log out dialog box10:34
odatthere aren't any little radio buttons anymore to choose from10:35
Amaranthanother is no more hotplug :)10:35
odatlol10:35
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deicidusanyone? this is really frustrating me... i don't know why it stopped working10:35
odatand it is snappier10:35
liableyeah, and replaced by udev Yay? :(10:35
odatmassive gnome optimizing10:35
cozdeicidus what's up10:35
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Pygihello peeps :))10:35
sudharshwhats the diff between the debian way of compiling the kernel and the one in the readme10:36
PuMpErNiCkElhey Pygi10:36
sudharshi did as mentioned in the readme and screwed up10:36
cozPygi you stole my peeps10:36
cozlol10:36
Pygicoz: oh? :P10:36
deiciduscoz: i have an external hard drive connected via usb 2.0 formatted as HFS+. it used to mount automatically just fine, but then it started randomly unmounting. now it won't mount at all.10:36
sudharshcheck out /etc/fstab10:37
cozdeicidus I believe that Amaranth can answer this question for you10:37
Amaranthcoz: err10:37
Amaranthdeicidus: get any errors in dmesg when you plug it in?10:38
cozdeicidus just out of curiosity I assume you have already rebotted10:38
deicidusnothing has changed that i can think of, except updates and using amule10:38
Amaranthbtw, isn't hfsplus read-only?10:38
cozrebooted10:38
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deicidusyes, error: "VFS: Can't find a HFS filesystem on dev sda"10:38
Pygideicidus: as said, check /etc/fstab10:39
deiciduscoz: actually not since it wouldn't mount although i have rebooted a few times to try and get it to stop unmounting at random10:39
Pygiwelcome BenC10:39
deiciduspygi: its not in fstab10:39
Amaranthdeicidus: ok, sounds like the partition is corrupt10:39
cozcheck as they said /etc/fstab10:39
Amaranthdeicidus: does it work on another machine/OS X?10:39
cozthere you go10:39
deicidusit mounts perfectly on my mac10:39
Amaranthhrm10:39
odati now have personally converted 5 people to ubuntu from windows   yea im the tech guy for them but they friggin luv it lol10:39
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deicidusi tired mounting it manually and adding it to fstab but it didint work10:40
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Pygiodat: ah, well :P10:40
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Amaranthdeicidus: what happens when you try to mount it manually?10:40
sudharshgive us the output of /etc/fstab10:40
Amaranthdeicidus: what command are you running and what's the output?10:40
Amaranth/etc/fstab has nothing to do with this10:40
sudharshooops....10:40
odattoday my friend had a new cell phone based on palm os and he said i guess i can't use the features with linux10:40
deicidushere, i should reboot first, right?10:40
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odati plugged it in and everything synced with evolution lol10:41
Amaranthdeicidus: not needed10:41
odathe was shocked and happy as hell lol10:41
deicidusok then10:41
deiciduslets see10:41
deiciduswhen i just plug it in, it says it can't find a HFS filesystem10:41
Amaranthok, what about when you try to mount it manually?10:42
deicidusthe manual command i used was mount -t hfs /dev/sda /media/josef10:42
sudharshb4 amaranth kicks me....does ubuntu hav kernel support for these filesysyetms n the first place10:42
Amaranth(btw, neat trick: mount something manually in /media and it'll show up on your desktop)10:42
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deicidusoh with a sudo10:42
Deanodriverwhat would be a good CPU temperature monitor that runs in the gnome panel?10:42
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Amaranthsudharsh: afaik it at least has read-only support for hfs+10:42
Deanodriveri tried installing lm_sensors with my last install of Ubuntu (which was Hoary), but it never worked properly10:43
Deanodriverbut gkrellm did10:43
sudharshwell whats the use with a read-only filesystem10:43
deicidusnow that gives an immediate error: wrong fs type, bad option, etc etc etc10:43
Amaranthsudharsh: reading files from?10:43
Amaranthdeicidus: exact command and exact output please10:43
odatAmaranth, don't yell at me for this but i have found new people adjust easier to gnome than kde   too many options i guess10:43
sudharshDeanodriver..gdesklets has some....10:43
sudharshtry em10:44
Deanodriverok10:44
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cozdeucudus can you back this up on your mac then format it with fat10:44
sudharshu kno ntfs...10:44
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deicidusamaranth: k, sorry: sudo mount -t hfs /dev/sda /media/josef10:44
sudharshthat would be a good idea10:44
Deanodriverbetter check and see if gdesklets is installed10:44
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Amaranthdeicidus: doing what coz said would be your best bet10:44
cozfat is more universal and can be read by mac/windows/ linux10:45
Amaranthdeicidus: FAT32 might suck, but basically every OS in existence can read/write to it10:45
Deanodriverand gdesklets-data?10:45
vbgunzanybody here use Opera?10:45
coznot fat 3210:45
sudharshyes10:45
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Amaranthcoz: what else would he use? FAT16?10:45
Deanodrivercool, i'll download them and see if they work10:45
sudharshDeanodriver proceed with the installation10:45
Amaranthcoz: FAT12? (that's for floppies)10:45
cozit would be more universal10:45
Deanodriverok10:45
coztry it10:45
CarinArrhey, i have a problem. I use software that needs the latest nvidia drivers to work. I removed the nvidia drivers from my system and installed them using the .run from the nvidia website.. Ended up getting a API Mismatch where it is trying to use the old kernel module with the new driver.. With kernel 12-9 I could fix it by purging the linux restricted modules packages, but with 12-10 i get dependency problems and dpkg refuses to remove them10:45
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Deanodriverit's just downloading them atm10:46
deicidusoutput: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda, missing codepage or other error. in some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so10:46
Amaranthcoz: FAT16 has a 2GB partition limit10:46
Deanodriveri'll cut the torrents for a few min10:46
Amaranthcoz: and lots of other annoying things10:46
coztrue10:46
Amaranthcoz: FAT32 is much better and just as well supported10:46
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coznone the less fat formatting is the best bet for him and you are right about fat3210:46
sudharshanyway Deanodriver d/l shoudnt take much time10:46
cozsorry for my confusion10:46
deicidusmac os doesnt support it that well10:46
Friarfat 16 has a limit to the number of folders in a folder doesnt it?10:46
Deanodriverit's installing now10:46
Amaranthdeicidus: sounds like linux no longer recognizes the version of hfs+ you have on there10:47
Deanodriverdone10:47
Friarlike 256 folders or something like that10:47
deicidusi believe mac os x cant acces partitions bigger than 60gb or something...10:47
Amaranthdeicidus: Doesn't support FAT32 well? How so?10:47
sudharshwell try em10:47
CarinArranyone?10:47
deicidusand files cant be bigger than 4gb anyway10:47
Friarnot good if you're a webhost10:47
Amaranthwell, no10:47
deicidusi think...10:47
Amaranthdeicidus: If you don't have Tiger ext2 is a good choice too.10:47
vbgunzif anybody here uses the opera web browser... do you know how to launch the opera email client?10:47
cozdeicidus fat32 is the way to go10:47
Amaranthor ext3, but panther will see it as ext210:48
sudharshdump opera...use evoltuion10:48
deicidusnope, use tiger10:48
Amaranthdeicidus: Then FAT32 is pretty much your best bet.10:48
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deicidusbut i wont have enough space to back it up for at least a week10:48
Amaranthdeicidus: I dunno why/how it worked before and doesn't now, but hfs+ support on linux isn't that good.10:48
fekmoin10:48
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Deanodriveri'll have to install lmsensors, i guess10:49
deicidusargh10:49
cozAlso osx mayhave done something if you were going bsack asnd forth10:49
Deanodriverare there any that don't rely on it?10:49
sudharshDeanodriver..well....gdesklets didnt work?10:50
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AmaranthDeanodriver: probably not, it's pretty much the standard way of reading sensors10:50
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Deanodrivergdesklets did10:50
Deanodriveri'm in the shell now10:50
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deicidusbleh well ok i can live without my cool p2p server setup for a week... barely, with enough pesto10:50
deiciduswhich leads me to my next question10:50
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sudharshwait...burm the data on a dvd or somthin10:50
deicidusno dvd burner, thats coming too10:51
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sudharshoh well....10:51
deicidusmy brother's getting a nice desktop that i get to mooch off of :10:51
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deicidus:10:51
Friarcan anyone get ares working with gift?10:51
deicidusstupid smiley _)10:51
cozgift?10:51
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Friaryeah10:51
deicidusanyway, i know of equivalents for most of the os x programs im used to10:52
sudharshwhats that10:52
FriarI was able to get .deb for fasttrack but not ares10:52
cozfile sharing10:52
sudharshhow much hd space do u hav10:52
sudharshdeicidus10:52
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DeanodriverNo Temperature sensors were found. Is lmsensors installed and working?10:53
Deanodriverbah10:53
Deanodriveri just installed it10:53
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deicidussudharsh: oh its all over the place. i *do* have enough, but i have to transfer it using my (fat32) ipod, which is slow and inconvenient because of various old technologies... much easier just to wait10:53
Pygiferaky: ping ping ping10:53
deicidussudharsh: like, hours easier, and ill be redoing it again then anyway10:53
cozdeicidus waiting is good idea10:53
theineHi, has katapult's behaviour recently changed? If I hit <ALT-SPACE> it appears but it doesn't do anything when I start to type in "xchat" or whatever.10:54
sudharshborrow a dvd writer from ur pals10:54
cozwhen you get dvd writer make sure it is plextor10:54
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Pygicoz: lol, thats not a good suggestion :P10:54
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sudharshsony.....10:54
cozPygi why is that?10:54
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Pygicoz: cause Plextor is no good anymore :P10:55
Deanodrivereh, wait a second10:55
Deanodriverthey all ask for lmsensors10:55
deicidusbut im worried/wondering whether there are these apps on linux: seamless encryption, automatic ipod syncing (including directories), and slick personal wiki software10:55
cozPlextor is still top of line sony and tdk fall second in capabilities10:55
Deanodriverbut the one i installed was lm-sensors10:55
cozI have all three10:55
sudharshwell Deanodriver did u try the 'add-2-panel' thing10:56
Deanodriverin what?10:56
sudharshforget it...that tell only the frequency of the CPU10:56
Deanodriveri know the frequency of the cpu :P10:56
deicidusany recommendations for those three apps?10:56
cozDeabidriver what motherboard do you have?10:57
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DeanodriverAsus A7S8X-MX10:57
cozhold on10:57
Deanodrivercheapie, but it works10:57
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DeanodriverSiS 741GX chipset10:57
UncleDsaharsh: you really think installing from tarballs lets you customize better?10:57
sudharshi hav an ASUS 210:57
deiciduson osx i use disk utility for encrypted disk images, itunes, and voodoopad10:57
sudharshUncleD: yes10:57
UncleDAmaranth: sudo apt-get remove apache2 says "package apache2 is not installed" but i know its installed, its running right now!10:57
midwinter_I don't suppose anyone has had problems running quodlibet and managed to fix it? odd..10:58
UncleDsudharsh: ah. Do you run the latest version of mysql? 5.0.18?10:58
AmaranthUncleD: it must be called something else10:58
i-nodeanyone know a suitable place to download PDA apps for linux?10:58
AmaranthUncleD: try 'apache'10:58
sudharshi run a 5.1.3 alpha10:58
sudharshjus for learnin stuff though10:58
UncleDsudharsh: how can I install the latest version properly? Can you show me a good tutorial10:58
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UncleDAmaranth: apache didn't work either.10:59
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chihuongalo10:59
sudharshok UncleD giv me ur mail id...i haad don it for my LUG10:59
UncleDsure10:59
sudharshor jus a sec i'll give u the link10:59
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Deanodriverhmm11:01
Deanodriverit wants i2c kernel modules11:01
Deanodriverwhatever they are :P11:01
UncleDsudharsh: check msgs11:01
Pygianyone tried to use gcc on live cd??? :P11:01
cozDeanodriver hold on I am still researching the mobo11:01
Deanodriverok11:01
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chihuongi want to study about ubuntu system11:01
Friarany way to install a .ebuild package on ubuntu?11:02
Pygifriar: yes, there is....11:02
chihuonghow type unicode in ubuntu?11:02
Pygifriar: you need to manually put portage into ubuntu...11:02
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Pygiso, have anybody tried installing and using gcc  on live cd? :)11:03
Friarthanks I'll give it whirl11:03
cozDeanodriver I am not sure there are sensors onboard this mobo11:03
Deanodriverdamn11:03
cozI stillhaen't found the manual for it11:04
Deanodriverit's not that old a mobo11:04
cozbut at least you have an Asus mobo11:04
coztwo pci slots right?11:04
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Deanodriveryeah11:04
AndyRlo all11:04
DeanodriverSiS 964 southbridge11:04
cozAnd an amd slot which processor you using11:04
Deanodriver2500+11:04
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Deanodriverxp11:04
Deanodriverand i'm not using the onboard video :P11:05
cozI think that this mobo may not have sonsors i am also using amd but mine is K7 600 mgz easily clockable11:05
Madpilot!sensors11:05
ubotuit has been said that sensors is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto11:05
cozbut I have no sensors on board11:05
Deanodriverthanks11:05
Deanodriveri'll give that a go11:05
Friarare intel video adapters good with ubuntu?11:05
Deanodriverthing is, i've had gkrellm working on it11:05
cozNo problem but the sensor thing would be nice11:05
Deanodriverintel ones should be fine11:05
Friarthanks11:05
cozwell honestly you have a better board11:05
cozAsus is top of line intel is stable11:06
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Deanodriveri've only had it a year11:06
cozasus rocks11:06
Deanodriverif that11:06
chihuongthank you11:06
MadpilotDeanodriver: just reading some of the backscroll - I've got got an Asus mobo too, similar vintage as yours, and lm-sensors + ksensors works just fine11:06
Deanodrivercool11:06
chihuongi will try soon11:06
Deanodriverthanks, i'll give it a go11:06
cozMad pilot you have a similar board?11:06
Deanodriverjust it's a hot night, and i'm getting kinda worried about this CPU temp11:06
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cozgo water coolled11:06
Deanodrivereven with an aftermarket HSF, I reckon it'd still be nudging 70C11:06
Deanodrivernah11:06
yeanhooj/ #ubuntu-br11:06
Deanodriveri'd rather buy a new CPU11:07
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cozwell the new amd's beat pentiums for thermals11:07
cozlast year anyway11:07
MadpilotDeanodriver: I've got an XP-M 2500+ too, and it runs at around 39C desktop, up to about 47C loaded, room temp ~18C11:08
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UncleDsudharsh: where'd you go11:08
cozwell guys I am about to go play with my "ubuntu" have a good night all11:08
sudharshUncleD11:09
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sudharshi'll send u an email within 15 minutes....11:09
Steven_MMy kubuntu distro dvd intalled kde by default, tonight I installed gnome, but gnome is not listed in kdm's session type menu. What do I do?11:09
UncleDsudharsh, ok thank you11:10
UncleDsudharsh: im just trying to setup a nice web-development machine, you know11:10
Battlestarhmmm can i get some tech support anyone?11:10
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PuMpErNiCkElWhat's the question?11:10
Battlestartrying to get ubuntu running on a ibook G311:11
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PygiUncleD:lol :)11:11
Battlestarproblem is i think the refresh rate or vsync is conflicting with the LCD screen11:11
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Battlestarhalf the display is on the screen, the other half overlaps what is on the screen or just isn't there11:11
UncleDHow can I see the apt packages installed with the word "apache" in them?11:11
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DeanodriverMadpilot, mine's a desktop 2500+11:12
Steven_Msomebody??11:12
erik__exit11:12
PuMpErNiCkElBattlestar: You can specify refresh rate and colour depth on boot with the 'vmode' and 'cmode' parameters... would that help?11:12
johndarkhorseUncleD: in a terminal type "apt-cache search apache" or use synaptic11:12
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Battlestarso how do i enter those parameters on boot11:12
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UncleDjohndarkhorse: That lists all the apache files that exist. I want to see the ones ive installed11:13
Battlestardo i just enter them after "linux"11:13
MadpilotDeanodriver: my XP-M runs in a desktop machine - I guess it might run a bit cooler, being designed for lappies originally11:13
PuMpErNiCkElBattlestar: Right at the beginning, it should offer you a prompt for any particular parameters you want to define.11:13
johndarkhorseUncleD: ah, type in the terminal "dpkg -l|grep "ii apache""  i believe will do it (or use the 'installed' filter in synaptic)11:14
PygiUncleD: go to synaptic, search in apache, and you'll see what packages are installed and what not11:14
thoreauputic_UncleD: dpkg -l *apache* | grep ^ii   <-- from memory11:14
PuMpErNiCkElBattlestar: Hang on, I'll find a list of the options and the syntax.11:14
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UncleDthat worked good.11:15
UncleDjohndarkhorse: when I tried to uninstall all the apache2 packages, I received this error when phpmyadmin came up11:16
UncleDdpkg: error processing phpmyadmin (--remove):11:16
UncleDsubprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 12711:16
Deanodriverhmm, seems to work11:16
Deanodriveri'll try the gdesklet app11:16
Deanodriver:)11:16
Battlestara list of options and sytax would be most helpful11:16
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Nikusanhi all, I'm looking for the controversial greeter image from warty. I dont mean the washed out brown images that can be found in universe. Does anyone have a link?11:16
PuMpErNiCkElBattlestar: http://www.sharplabs.com:8668/space/video+boot+arguments11:17
johndarkhorseUncleD: i'm not much on balancing programs. you need to decide what you want.11:17
Deanodriverhmm11:17
Deanodrivernow sensors come up with info, but the gdesklets don't11:17
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UncleDjohndarkhorse: im trying to remove phpmyadmin - its dependent on apache2, but now I cant even remove it.11:18
MadpilotDeanodriver: try ksensors, it seems to work best - I tried xsensors too, and couldn't get it sorted out...11:18
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Deanodriverok11:18
Deanodriverthanks11:18
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bunglehi all11:18
Battlestarthanks for that pumpernickel11:18
UncleDjohndarkhorse: http://rafb.net/paste/results/goC2bN88.html -- i get this error when I try to unstainll phpmyadmin11:19
UncleDthoreauputic_: http://rafb.net/paste/results/goC2bN88.html any ideas?11:19
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PuMpErNiCkElSteven_M: Have you tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kubuntu-desktop' or that but with 'ubuntu-desktop'?11:21
thoreauputic_UncleD: have you looked at /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm  ? That seems to be where the problem lies11:22
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Deanodriverawesome, thanks a lot11:22
Deanodriverit works11:22
Deanodriver:D11:22
Pygiwhat's the current user password in live cd???11:22
Deanodriversitting on 58C... :p11:22
Seveasthere is no password11:22
UncleDthoreauputic_ yes, its just a script11:23
Nikusanthe image from the greeter at http://img62.exs.cx/img62/4553/screenshot4.png is the one I'm looking for11:23
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Seveas(yes, screensavr locks on the live cd: known bug, solved in dapper)11:23
PuMpErNiCkElBattlestar: np :)11:23
PygiSeveas: so empty?11:23
SeveasPygi, yes11:23
Seveas(iirc)11:23
ali__when i try to download mplayer from nerim repo, i get error, how can i install mplayer?11:23
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PygiSeveas: but it says it's wrong :/ and I need to lock a computer for a moment :/11:23
thoreauputic_1mplayer\11:23
Deanodriveroh well, it's a warm night, thanks a hell of a lot for that :)11:23
thoreauputic_!mplayer11:23
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ubotu[mplayer]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106111:23
SeveasPygi, then set a password :)11:23
Deanodriverbeen wanting to get it working for ages11:24
PygiSeveas: well, I would... . but I need to know current password11:24
SeveasPygi, sudo passwd ubuntu11:24
ali__thoreauputic_: th.x11:24
Seveassudo is setup to be NOPASSWD11:24
Pygiah, thx seveas11:24
Pygiseveas: I can't lock screen :/11:25
SeveasPygi, xscreensaver --lock11:25
Pygithis live cd is funny :p11:26
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Seveas:)11:26
Steven_MPuMpErNiCkEl: no, I'll try that now. Thanks.11:26
PuMpErNiCkElSteven_M: np :)11:26
MadpilotDeanodriver: 58C? Ouch - might want to review your cooling...11:26
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Deanodriveri've got a front and rear fan, and an aftermarket HSF11:27
polpakSeveas: does the dapper live CD work better for gparted resizing NTFS partitions? It just wouldn't do anything on the breezy live11:27
Deanodriverbut it is the middle of summer on a warm night11:27
CarinArrlovely11:27
bungleupgraded to firefox 1.5 and java and realplayer dont work help anyone?11:27
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Deanodriverand the desk it is in is terrible for cooling11:27
Seveaspolpak, ntfsresize has been functional since hoary...11:27
Seveaspolpak, maybe you need to defrag11:27
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polpakSeveas: perhaps, but I could successfully resize on a hoary live CD, or knoppix.11:28
Seveaspolpak, that's weird11:28
polpakSeveas: yeah11:28
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polpakSeveas: I saw someone else mention something similiar11:28
Pygiseveas: the command  doesnt work....11:28
SeveasPygi, what's the error?11:28
polpakSeveas: not that it matters to me much since I have no ntfs partitions anymore =))11:29
Seveas:)11:29
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Pygiseveas: first off all, I need to use xscreensaver-command -lock, and not that thingy you said...11:30
Pygiand the error is...11:30
Pygixscreensaver-command: locking not enabled.11:30
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Seveasah11:30
KatieI try and play a game11:30
Seveaslocking has been disabled completely11:30
Seveasergo, impossible to lock11:31
Pygihuh :/11:31
Katieflash11:31
Katieand the keys dont work11:31
Katiewhy?11:31
Pygilive cd is weird11:31
Katieit'll work sometimes but not always11:31
Pygithx anyway11:31
UncleDthoreauputic_: I had to add a line to /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm before the if statement to make it work.11:31
thoreauputic_UncleD: aha! Well hacked sir !11:32
SeveasUncleD, file the bug :)11:32
UncleDhow?11:32
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rob1how does a debian base install compare to a ubuntu server install?11:33
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thoreauputic_rob1: pretty much identical afaics11:33
cryptomhi, how does the system determine to rotate e.g. /var/log/syslog daily, even if in /etc/logrotate.conf "weekly" is globally set?11:33
ilba7r!dmix11:33
ubotusomebody said dmix was at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin11:33
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rob1thoreauputic, oh good.. I was gonna check out packages.debian.org but its down11:33
Madpilot!bug11:34
ubotuTo file a bug, go to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ for packages in main or http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu for Universe packages11:34
thoreauputic_rob1: don't use debian packages in ubuntu unless you like fixing broken systems ;)11:34
bart_Hey i'm a absolute beginner and looking for a program supporting my webcam, gaim doesn't support a webcam unforntunatly...11:34
ilba7rwhy not just ubotu say that virtual sound mixing is already supported in ubuntu i lost 4 days cause of bad wiki and bad advice here11:34
PuMpErNiCkElbart_: kopete, amsn, and gaim-vv do11:35
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rob1thoreauputic_, no I don't plan to, just looking at using it as a base to make a custom debian/ubuntu install on my kids pc11:35
mika0800installation: how come I selected server-expert as installation type ... but still it installed the gnome desktop ?11:35
sudharshgaim-vv doesnt support webcam broadcasting11:35
ilba7rwhy not ubotu respond to !dmix by virtual sound mixing already run out of box11:35
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Pygiseveas: any way i could enable it?11:35
rob1that should be debian or ubuntu install..11:35
PuMpErNiCkElsudharsh: I thought it did for the msn protocol, but not yahoo...11:35
SeveasPygi, probably recompiling xscreensaver11:36
thoreauputic_rob1: when I said pretty much the same I meant functionally - I don't know if using a debian base install wuld work with ubuntu11:36
sudharshdoes it...11:36
Madpilotilba7r: the bot only knows what people have told it11:36
thoreauputic_rob1: I'm guessing it wouldn't11:36
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rob1thoreauputic_, yeah I assumed that much11:36
Pygiseveas: k, i just installed gcc and build-essential in memory11:36
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thoreauputic_ilba7r: it doesn't always - I needed dmix to get mine set up correctly11:37
ilba7ri know Madpilot just make me wonder of factoids. I followed a wiki in a factoid from ubotu. Lost considerable time to find i am trying to reinvent the wheel11:37
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yatoohello  ~~11:37
PuMpErNiCkElhey yatoo11:37
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Madpilotilba7r: which factoid & which wiki page? both can be changed...11:38
Seveasilba7r, that's very much explained by the lack of sound experts in here11:38
thoreauputic_ilba7r: that's open source - different solutions for different circumstances11:38
Seveasilba7r, corrections would be very(!) welcome11:38
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PuMpErNiCkElilba7r: I'm highlighting you too :D11:38
ilba7rMadpilot, i think the link to the page have been changed but no hint that virtual mixing can just work. i thought it did not cause i used realplay. turned out it is only prob with real11:39
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thoreauputic_ilba7r: not just real - any OSS app11:39
yatooI'm from Chinese....11:39
thoreauputic_ilba7r: audacity, games like pingus etc11:39
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yatooWho can help me11:40
ilba7rthanx all but i found that many of the advices here are either recompile even recompile source. sometimes it does not need to be like that. perhaps a hint would be helpfull11:40
thoreauputic_ilba7r: what sort of hint? We aren't infallible you know11:40
sudharsh /msg nickserv link sudharsh rockinrobin11:40
sudharshoooooooooooooops11:41
ilba7rthoreauputic, i know that now and now the work around aoss realplay. am using xmms and ditch realplay all together11:41
PuMpErNiCkElyatoo: #ubuntu-zh is chinese support11:41
thoreauputic_ilba7r: OK11:41
Seveassudharsh, /msg nickserv set password something_new11:41
sudharshyes yes...silly me11:41
ilba7rthoreauputic, something like do not advice to reinstall from source before searching for original package. I have seen people advising to install alsamixer though it is already installed. Sorry for the flame just had to trace back all the steps i done in 4 days11:42
UncleDsudharsh you sent it yet?11:43
sudharshyes11:43
mika0800with Ubuntu Hoary 5.04, if I do sudo apt-get update, will it cause ubuntu to update the kernel as well ?11:43
thoreauputic_ilba7r: well, you get some bad advice sometimes, yes - from gentoo refugees often ( /me ducks and runs )11:43
Madpilotilba7r: the wiki is easily editable by anyone; if you can correct some of the sound information there please do - as thoreauputic said, we've got a shortage of sound experts...11:43
ilba7rby the way people here like to help sometimes a little bit of ignorence hurts more than help. nevertheless the community is great11:43
UncleDsudharsh: you sent me the wrong file.11:43
UncleDsudharsh: i wanted to know about mysql, not apache&php.11:43
sudharshoh sorry.......11:44
thoreauputic_ilba7r: inevitable that some people will give bad advice - sorr about that11:44
thoreauputic_*sorry11:44
ilba7rthanx Madpilot thoreauputic and Seveas and sorry for the steam.11:45
thoreauputic_ilba7r: heh - I feel your pain ;)11:45
Pygilol ;)11:45
Seveasilba7r, no sweat dude, comments are just as welcome as compliments11:45
Pygiuse postgre, rather then MySQL if you have a choice....11:45
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Seveasand as said before: if you have improvements to docs/factoids, please, pretty pleasy change them11:45
sudharshUncleD what in mysql....11:45
SeveasPygi, hear hear :)11:46
SeveasPygi, and python instead of php :)11:46
PuMpErNiCkElSeveas: Surely you meant Perl? ;)11:46
ilba7rSeveas, will do as i gain more experience do not want to give bad advice or learn on other people pcs :)11:46
Seveaseww no11:46
ilba7rtake care guys see ya all later11:46
Seveasilba7r, cya11:46
thoreauputic_Seveas: the dmix factoid is mine I think - I found it useful but if there's a better link then by all means change it someone11:46
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Seveasthoreauputic_, my sound knowledge is extremely limited11:47
yatooPuMpErNiCkEl~~  I  heven't found how to input the Chinese ~~help me .. please..11:47
PuMpErNiCkElyatoo: type /join #ubuntu-zh11:47
stark-johanmy system frooze up last night and forced me to reboot when I got up this morning, can I trace why by looking at any specific logs? I have a pretty standard system set up.11:47
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yatoothanx    .. I'm  try  do it ..11:48
Seveasstark-johan, /var/log/{dmesg,kern.log,emerg.log,messages}11:48
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mika0800there really IS something wrong about ubuntu's character set handling. I accepted the default UTF8 ... and now, with command line, finnish letters  and  function wrong on the command line.11:48
PygiSeveas: ofcourse :)  perfectionists use only perfect languages :)11:48
stark-johanSeveas > Ok, I'll check them out.11:48
SeveasPygi, :D11:48
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SeveasPygi, ever used django?11:49
PygiSeveas: yesh11:49
Seveasit SO rocks :)11:49
Pygi:))))11:49
serengetihello, i'm trying to set up irda on my thinkpad t42. I've found some instructions here: http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/Irda11:49
serengetibut the problem is that they want me to add some lines to /etc/modprobe.conf11:50
serengetiand there's no such file in my Breezy11:50
PygiSeveas: ever tried C/Assembly combination? :)))11:50
Seveasyeah11:51
mika0800serengeti: good luck! I have the same issue. Thank god this is a business PC.... so we'll just hire commercial consultant to configure that.... (using external USB-IrDA Actisys IR-4000U)11:51
Seveasmore often than is good for a person11:51
Seveasserengeti, that is outdated11:51
PygiSeveas: I mostly code that way :P11:51
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Seveastry /etc/modprobe.d/irda (if it does not exist: crate it)11:51
serengetimika08000: no chances of hiring a consultant here ;) it's my home machine11:52
theineserengeti, are you sure you need to do that? try "ifconfig -a | grep irda" and see if that gives you something11:52
serengetitheine: i'll check11:52
mika0800In 2.6 -kernel based systems, MUCH of any hardware related documentation (like manpages) are outdated... and still if you ask, many will just tell you to read the manual !11:52
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Pygipeople tend not to choose python for web thingyes for mostly 3 reasons: 1)They don't know python well 2)Python is "slow" 3)They don't have a clue about anything :P11:52
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dsoncmy problem with garnome2.13.4: cairosimple.o: In function `main':11:53
dsonc/home/dsonc/garnome-2.13.4/platform/pango/work/main.d/pango-1.11.1/examples/cair osimple.c:82: undefined reference to `cairo_surface_write_to_png'11:53
mika0800Actually, we plan them to packet the solution inside a .deb package....11:53
serengetitheine: irda0     Link encap:IrLAP  HWaddr 00:00:00:0011:53
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theineserengeti, looks fine, now try "lsmod | grep nsc_ircc"11:53
karlwrkis there anything special I need to do if I want to use a vanilla kernel from kernel.org?  I seem to have lost sound.11:53
Seveasdsonc, ask on #gnome on gimpnetr11:53
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Pygigimpnet*11:54
enycMeep11:54
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serengetitheine: nsc_ircc               21084  011:54
stark-johanSeveas > What should I look for to find possible crashreasons in my dmesg-file? The other logs you mentioned seems just fine.11:54
serengetiirda                  187612  3 nsc_ircc,irtty_sir,sir_dev11:54
dsoncThank you Seveas11:54
SeveasPygi, 3) is the explanation for why they think 1) and 2) :)11:54
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PygiSeveas: agrees :)11:54
theineserengeti, everythings seems to be fine already11:54
Seveasstark-johan, oopses, crashes, anything that's timestamped just before the crash11:55
serengetitheine: it seems ok I guess but I don't see anything when I wave my Siemens ME45 in front of the irda port11:55
enycWho understands anything about the backend tools for recording DVD iso images or has pointers to appropriate information? -- cdrecord = cd-only ....  ;-) [thanks in advance] 11:55
ptlodsonc: you don't have png support compiled in in cairo - no problem, only that test example actually tries to *use it*, the rest of the system will work without it11:55
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thoreauputic_Seveas: actually factinfo says the dmix factoid is apokryphos's - so I'm in the clear on that one ;-)11:55
serengetitheine: in irdadump I mean11:55
Pygioh, welcome ptlo :P11:55
ptloPygi: heya :)11:55
theineserengeti, I never really used irda so I probably can't help you any further...11:55
theinesorry11:55
ptloPygi: you forgot to mention ruby on rails as the reason #4 :)11:55
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Pygiptlo: oh, yes :P11:56
Seveasptlo, ruby, eww...11:56
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Pygiptlo: thats not actually a good reason  tho :/11:56
dsoncok plto, but my build process is sttoped at that point, what ca ni do to continue him?11:56
serengetitheine: thanks anyway :)11:56
Seveas!beer11:56
PygiSeveas: huh :P11:56
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thoreauputic_:D11:56
dsoncso much typo, sorry? :^P11:56
serengetimika0800: that would surely be nice11:57
karlwrk(what if his favourite is warm beer?)11:57
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Seveaskarlwrk, then he is crazy11:57
PygiSeveas, you are abusing ubotu.... prepare to be kicked.... 5....4....3....2.... system malfunction.... please restart and reopen windows....thank you11:57
karlwrkI agree, but...11:57
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thoreauputic_karlwrk: ugh- you have to be British to like warm beer11:57
mika0800IrDA is fine only after you have something like /dev/IrComm0 AND you are able to treat that as if it were a serial port... and then just send AT <Cr> into that....11:57
JoeBlowegh, warm beer11:57
Pygihuh, Seveas, saw my old psot to you? :P11:57
PygiSeveas, you are abusing ubotu.... prepare to be kicked.... 5....4....3....2.... system malfunction.... please restart and reopen windows....thank you11:57
JoeBlowim drinking a cold, cola beer, i dont typically drink real beer before 511:58
Pygiand you were kicked after that :P11:58
SeveasPygi, why do you think I /cycle'd :)11:58
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mika0800there is a MAKEDEV but I have no idea ahow to use it and will it help with IrDA things...11:58
Seveasmika0800, MAKEDEV irda11:58
johndarkhorse!offtopic11:58
ubotuI guess offtopic is Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!11:58
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JoeBlowwhat kinda linux partitions do u guys run, like do u keep just one root, or do u use more ?11:59
mika0800doesn't it want any other parameters besides irda ???11:59
stark-johanSeveas > Everything seems to be fine in all those files. I guess I just have to hope that the next (eventual) crash leaves some better traces or is there anything else I could do? I checked my apache logs aswell.11:59
sudharshext311:59
johndarkhorseJoeBlow: for a safety net, it's good to have your /home on a seperate partition11:59
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thoreauputic_heh so much for scripts11:59
Seveasstark-johan, not that I know off11:59
sudharshyeah...ur user setting would be intact11:59
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stark-johanSeveas  > Thanks anyway.12:00
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JoeBlowjohndarkhorse, ohh alright12:01
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JoeBlowjohndarkhorse, for while ive been running one root, and one swap, and that was all12:01
serengetiSeveas: MAKEDEV irda didn't create anything that looks like /dev/ircomm on my machine12:01
JoeBlowjohndarkhorse, but reinstalling is a bitch12:01
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PygiSeveas: worked on Mono framework/C#?12:01
SeveasPygi, tiny little bit12:02
mika0800does someone know: what directories must be available, for you to run the chechker agaisnst filesystems(s) ? I think you must unmount the filesystem you want to check ... otherwise it will not work12:02
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sudharshguyz..which one is the more advantageous xorg or xfree8612:02
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thoreauputic_sudharsh: xorg12:02
thoreauputic_sudharsh: xfree86 is pretty much dead12:03
PygiXORG absolutly12:03
bimberisudharsh: xorg - modular not monolithic12:03
Pygisudharsh: there are rumors that Y server is better :DDD12:03
sudharshbut didnt xfree just release a new ver12:03
PygiSeveas: and what have you done in django?12:03
thoreauputic_Pygi: Z server is in pre alpha ;-)12:03
Pygilol, Z server?? I havent heard about it :P I heard and "used" Y server12:04
thoreauputic_sudharsh: xfree is arguably non-free12:04
mika0800dows Ubuntu detect the amount of RAM correctly on every boot ?12:04
thoreauputic_Pygi: I was kidding12:04
sudharshhows that12:04
Pygilol, ok :P12:04
serengetiSeveas: everything's ok :) I just had to enter MAKEDEV -d irda at fist to clean up after previous attempts12:04
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thoreauputic_sudharsh: there has been extensive debate on the matter - google might help :)12:05
sudharshokie dokie12:05
JoeBlowkubuntu is just visisualy different right?12:05
mika0800serengeti: did you really get your IrDA working ?12:05
sudharshJoeBlow: it uses kde12:06
dell500anyone know how to install libdvdcss??12:06
thoreauputic_JoeBlow: KDE is functionall different as well12:06
sudharshnot just visually differnt12:06
thoreauputic_*functionally12:06
johndarkhorseJoeBlow: you can have as many Desktop Environments as you wish12:06
JoeBlowsudharsh, whats the difference with gnome and kde12:06
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karlwrkso I installed a fresh (k)breezy, and had sound working and all that, and I built a new kernel for it last night, and for some reason I lost sound.  Things like vlc and xmms all run ok, they don't complain, I just don't get any sound out12:06
JoeBlowim kinda interested in kde12:06
johndarkhorseJoeBlow: install a few and use them all, keep on using the ones you like12:06
JoeBlowbut i know gnome, and so i dunno what ill have to relearn12:06
sudharshthen kubuntu12:06
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mika0800at least many (but not all) KDE-applications work fine with IceWm.... how about the Gnome-Apps ?12:06
serengetimika0800: I got it to display SIEMENS ME45 in irdadump so I guess I got it working :)12:07
thoreauputic_JoeBlow: then install kun=buntu-desktop and see12:07
sudharshthere r others like xfce, fluxbox12:07
thoreauputic_*kubuntu-desktop12:07
sudharshthey are light weight12:07
JoeBlowthoreauputic_, ok , that sounds pretty cool12:07
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mika0800serengeti: do you have any program which is capable of talking to either a serial port or IrDA -port ?12:07
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johndarkhorseJoeBlow: you might also try xubuntu-desktop  (it's xfce4 +)12:08
serengetimika0800: not yet - I want to use the GPRS modem through irda12:08
mika0800and MAKEDEV -d irda and MAKEDEV irda was all you entered ?12:08
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serengetimika0800: one moment12:08
mika0800senrengeti: you can do that later. But first you should verify that your mobile phone responds with "OK" when you send it AT <Cr>12:09
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JoeBlowis their a palce i can just download ubuntu themes?12:10
Madpilot!tell JoeBlow about themes12:10
thoreauputic_JoeBlow: for gnome, install gnome-themes-extras12:10
serengetimika0800: everything I did was adding these (http://paste.getlinuxhelp.org/1886) lines to /etc/modules12:11
PygiSeveas: let's start a war: Python/Django vs. Ruby/RoR :)))12:11
SeveasPygi, let's not...12:11
serengetimika0800: rebooting and then MAKEDEV -d irda MAKEDEV irda12:11
thoreauputic_!start an irc client war12:11
Seveasit would be unfair to ruby12:11
ubotuirssi is better than gaim !12:11
thoreauputic_*1 for ubotu12:11
PygiSeveas: hehe :)12:11
Pygiwell, ubotu is right :)12:12
thoreauputic_indeed12:12
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PygiSeveas: well, I saw people doing magnificent things in RoR as well....altought I never tried it...12:12
dell500is there any way to have two instances of totem movie player?12:12
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blackb0xMoin!12:12
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SeveasPygi, conceptually RoR and Django do the same12:13
Seveasso a war between them would depend completely on preference, just like a vim vs emacs war12:13
mika0800serengeti: btw: I made a serial port / Ir-port client app myself.12:13
PygiSeveas: well, thats true...well, after all, everything comes down to prefference.....12:14
mika0800With serial ports it works fine. With IrDA, I need to test later12:14
PygiSeveas: the language is good if the developer is good12:14
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PygiSeveas: a good coder could make more and better things in "bad" language, then a bad coder in "good" language12:14
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errrI had nvidia drivers working but then I updated my system, and now X will not start, what needs to be reinstalled/configured for them to work again?12:15
Pygierrr: reconfigure X server12:15
errrthe only thing updated was the kernel image btw12:15
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JoeBlowjust got a new 80 gig harddrive at the store, paid 20  for this baby12:16
JoeBlow80 gig, maxtor, 8mb cache12:16
mika0800so /etc/modules is still in use in 2.6 -series kernels ?12:16
thoreauputic_mika0800: yup12:16
forceerrr, recompile the nvidia drivers12:16
karlwrkand if you upgraded your kernel and lost sound, what do you do then?12:17
errrforce: I didnt compile them to being with, but I did do a reinstall of them from synaptic12:17
mika0800JoeBlow, 20 what units? Can you specify in letters, the currency symbol you try to use comes out as rubbish12:17
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forceerrr, just make sure the nvidia drivers are in sync with the kernel you're running12:17
cafuegoCan I just note my machine is using over 500Mb of swap.12:17
errrforce: hmm ok.12:17
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Madpilotcafuego: with now much actual RAM?12:17
serengetimika0800: I don't yet have any serial port client app yet but echo "AT <Cr>" > /dev/ircomm0 causes some activity in irdadump12:17
cafuegoMadpilot: 1.5GB12:18
thoreauputic_cafuego: you poor chap ;)12:18
saifmy swap mem is 2.gb12:18
Madpilotcafuego: wow - WTF are you doing?!?12:18
saifwell i wanted a mp3 player12:18
cafuegoMadpilot: I think beagle is indexing :-)12:18
saiflet me know12:18
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Madpilotcafuego: heh - guess they haven't fixed all of beagle's memory leaks, then...12:18
cafuegoMadpilot: Nooooooo12:19
mika0800serengeti: if you use echo, maybe you should use /r to make <Cr> ... which means carriage return (ascii 13 decimal or 0x0D for C programmers)12:19
cafuegowell, the load is back down to 7 at least12:19
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cafuegomika0800: no, \r12:19
mika0800oh, try it with some freecall number, like echo ATDT0800123456;/r (note the semicolon; that makes a voice call, otherwise it tries to make a data call)12:19
marcin`hi all12:19
marcin`got a pretty strange question12:20
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marcin`does ubuntu support mouse connected via COM port?12:20
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marcin`I connected pretty old mouse to my old PC and started Ubuntu Breezy Live12:20
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marcin`and it doesn't support COM mous12:21
marcin`mouse12:21
cafuegomarcin`: It would, but I doubt it would automatically detect it.12:21
CosminGhi all12:21
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saifi want to play mp3 file12:21
CosminGi download the skype package12:21
thoreauputic_!mp312:21
ubotump3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:21
cafuegosaif: so install an mp3 player.12:21
CosminGhow do I install it?12:21
marcin`what about installed version? (not Live) ?12:21
Pygi!skype12:21
cafuegomarcin`: 100% identical.12:21
ubotufrom memory, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/12:21
cafuegomarcin`: Yopu'd have to TELL it you have a serial mouse.12:21
dell500is there any way to have two instances of totem movie player?12:21
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CosminGubotu thank you12:22
ubotuCosminG: de rien12:22
Pygi!patience12:22
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.12:22
marcin`cafuego: hmm how can I TELL that I have serial mouse?12:22
saifany one prefer to tell me12:22
thoreauputic_dell500: try disabling system sounds - or read about dmix12:22
saifi want to play mp3 file12:22
thoreauputic_!dmix12:22
ubotuhmm... dmix is at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin12:22
Madpilot!tell saif about mp312:22
cafuegomarcin`: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8612:22
cafuegomarcin`: You probably also need to laod the 'sermouse' module.12:22
Pygixfree86??? who has xfree? :/12:23
cafuegoeh12:23
cafuegoxorg12:23
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thoreauputic_cafuego: erm - xserver-xorg ?12:23
thoreauputic_:)12:23
cafuegoforce of habit, 4 years of #debian ;-)12:23
mika0800marcin: if ubuntu does not use xfree86, then I don't know. With debian it is as easy as booting from KnoppixCD and copying the Knoppix-mad xFree86 conf file over debian's...12:23
thoreauputic_cafuego: yeah, it becomes a reflex ;-)12:23
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marcin`cafuego: ok thanks got it.... some serial mouse howto12:24
Pygicafuego: huh, 8.5 years of Slackaware ... aka series 2.x12:24
marcin`thanks all12:24
cafuegoPygi: My penis is also large.12:24
saifcafuego, what mp3 player should i download?12:24
Pygi:/12:24
cafuegosaif: On gnome, try 'rhythmbox'. That also required 'gstreamer-0.8-mad'12:24
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thoreauputic_saif: sudo apt-get install beep-media-player is another posssibility12:25
mika0800well... maybe I will reboot my ubuntu PC... let's see if my network still works after the reboot....12:25
saifok let me try this on terminal12:25
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saifi'm new to ubuntu i just move from suse to ubuntu12:25
karlwrkcan anyone even give me a _hint_ as to why I lost sound support when I built my own kernel.  all the alsa _and_ oss stuff is in there, artsd is running, I just don't get any output.  I know I can go back to the stock kernel, but it doesn't support some other things, and it certainly should be possible to run your own kernel12:26
Pygi!enter12:26
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!12:26
thoreauputic_saif: for mp3 preview in the nautilus file manager, install sox and mpg12312:26
mika0800karlwrk... if you have 2 or more sound cards (motherboard built-ins included) it may pick the wrong one...12:26
karlwrkmpg321 instead perhaps12:26
] m[evilbneed some help installing wine12:26
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saifwill you provide me the link on private msg12:26
Madpilotsaif: with the right codecs, totem or rythymbox can play mp3...12:26
cafuegosaif: Why not use 'Synaptic' ?12:26
Pygi!wine12:26
] m[evilb!wine12:27
thoreauputic_karlwrk: yes, mpg321 probably works too12:27
Pygiubotu tell ] m[evilb about wine12:27
saifok i will try12:27
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Pygiwine thingy with ubotu has problems :/12:27
karlwrkmika: no, just the one, it all worked without touching it before hand, my only thought is this "restricted-modules" package, but I don't know what it is reallyt even for, and google isn't forthcoming12:27
saif!Synaptic12:27
ubotufrom memory, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto12:27
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bimberiPygi: nah, it's just long12:27
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] m[evilbPygi the problem is i cant install it like that, linux cant get on inet12:28
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saifin ubuntu there's not xms player12:28
MadpilotPygi: that !wine factiod is too long to display in-channel, that's why you get it as a pm from the bot12:28
thoreauputic_saif: xmms12:28
Pygithen compile it off source ] m[evilb12:28
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thoreauputic_!info xmms12:29
ubotuxmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 979 kB, Installed size: 7216 kB12:29
] m[evilbPygi i'm a complete noob with linux, just installed it yesterday12:29
saifyeah sorry!12:29
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Pygi] m[evilb: what do you want to run with wine? it's just for apps, not games....12:29
saifwell, i also wanted to disable auto dialing while my computer starts12:29
errrwell I removed all the things I installed for nvidia to begin with, then reinstalled them and followed all the same steps I did the first time, and I still cant get nvidia to work, X will not start unless I use nv12:30
] m[evilbpygi apps and steam12:30
flogistonWhy does konsole or gnome-terminal start when i try to start xfterm4?12:30
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Pygisteam: meaning games which support steam?12:30
thoreauputic_flogiston: as far as I know, xfterm4 uses gnome-terminal12:30
bimberi] m[evilb: you could download the deb for local transfer to your ubuntu box - http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/wine_0.9.5-winehq-1_i386.deb12:30
Pygiand then dpkg -i file.deb12:31
] m[evilbyeah did all that12:31
] m[evilbstill doesnt work12:31
flogistonWhen i don't have gnome-terminal or konsole installed xfterm4 start but if they are xfterm4 does not start.12:31
flowho plays Battlefield 2: Modern Combat?12:31
bimberi] m[evilb: yep, that's a typical wine experience :P12:31
] m[evilbsynaptic says the pakages are broken12:31
] m[evilbbimberi anyway of getting it to work?12:32
thoreauputic_flogiston: the pacj=kage appears to be  xfce4-terminal12:32
] m[evilbor other program i can try12:32
saifhow can i disable12:32
saifauto dial12:32
flogistonthooreauputic, how do i fix this?12:32
bimberi] m[evilb: need to see the error message really (i realise that isn't easy with no net connection)12:33
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thoreauputic_flogiston: I don't really know to be honest - xfterm4 appears to start gnome-terminal here ( I prefer urxvt mostly)12:33
flogistonI just have konsole installed becuase i like to use yakuake which uses konsole.12:34
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flogistonGnome-terminal isn't installed at the moment.12:34
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cafuegoThere, good boy.12:34
] m[evilbbimberi if i can get my usb wireless adapter installed i can get on net12:34
bimberi] m[evilb: i have had some success using the sidenet wine config utility - http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html12:35
bimberi!wireless12:35
ubotufrom memory, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards12:35
thoreauputic_flogiston: have you tried other terminals? rxvt, aterm, urxvt ( urxvt is in the rxvt-unicode package and supports utf-8)12:35
flogistonId like transparancy.12:35
karlwrkthere can be only one! xterm for PM!12:35
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thoreauputic_flogiston: aterm and urxvt do transparency with the -tr flag12:36
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thoreauputic_flogiston: lots of other options in the man pages - and they start *fast*12:36
flogistonThink i looked fore the config when i hade som of the different terminals.12:36
karlwrkthough I did kinda like the automatic url highlight in gnome-terminal12:37
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flogistonkarlwrk, isn't that a feature of the shell?12:38
UncleDHow do I add /usr/local/mysql to my $PATH ?12:38
cafuegoflogiston: no12:38
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cafuegoUncleD: Why did you do that?12:38
karlwrkflogiston: highlighting you could do in xterm, but not adding a rightlcick and "open in browser"12:38
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thoreauputic_UncleD: /usr/local/bin should be in your PATH12:38
flogistonAah you mean that.12:38
UncleDmysql explained to install to /usr/local/mysql though12:39
UncleDI'm needing to run two versions for testing, 4.1 and 5.012:39
cafuegoUncleD: WHy not just apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 though?12:39
cafuegoAh ok.12:39
thoreauputic_UncleD: just put a symlink in /usr/local/bin then12:39
UncleDok i thought about doing that12:39
cafuegoUncleD: You can edit $PATH in /etc/profile or in ~/.bashrc or by symlinking it in /usr/local/bin12:39
UncleDso a symlink is preferred over changing my $PATH thor?12:40
cafuegoUncleD: You undountedly also want edit ld.so.conf though.12:40
UncleDand do what to it?12:40
thoreauputic_UncleD: I prefer it - YMMV12:40
johndarkhorseUncleD: most definitely do you NOT want to change your path12:40
UncleDso just make a symlink for mysql in /usr/local/bin12:40
UncleDand leave it at that?12:40
cafuegothoreauputic_: I prefer adding ~/.bin to my path and adding symlinks there.12:40
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UncleDcafeugo: what does that do?12:41
thoreauputic_cafuego: yes that works too of course :)12:41
cafuegoUncleD: Allows me to add stuff for me only.12:41
cafuegoUncleD: and no root access required.12:41
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Friarsuggestion of a good rss reader for gnome anyone?12:42
cafuegoFriar: thunderbird is nice12:42
thoreauputic_Friar: straw or liferea12:42
SeveasFriar, liferea12:42
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olicatFriar, blam12:42
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Friarthanks... I'll try 'em all12:42
olicatFriar, blam uses mono, which you may not want - but it's interface is nice and simple12:43
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JoeBlowwheres the offtopic chatroom?12:43
cafuegoJoeBlow: In the basement.12:43
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Friari dont know what mono is lol12:43
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cafuegoJoeBlow: See the door with the biohazard sign?12:43
JoeBlowcafuego, yea12:43
olicatFriar, it's linux's implementation of C#12:43
Friarbut i've apt-getted it12:43
MadpilotJoeBlow: #ubuntu-offtopic12:43
Friarok12:44
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thoreauputic_JoeBlow: #ubuntu-offtopic  ;)12:44
JoeBlowMadpilot, :)12:44
Friarsorry for my ignorance :-)12:44
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Friaru gotta start somewhere12:44
Madpilotgood night, all12:45
cafuegoJust don't start with C# <heh>12:45
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Friarlol12:45
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johndarkhorsesee yall later12:46
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Friarand dont start with VB either....12:46
cafuegoVB is a simple beer, but nice.12:46
j2dopehi. is there anyway to make it so when I click my scroll button on my house, it comes up with a scrolling icon like on windows?12:46
ben_underscorecafuego, yuk12:46
Friari like vb but its not like most other langauges12:46
cafuegoFriar: http://www.fosters.com.au/enjoy/beer/victoria_bitter.htm12:46
UncleDthoreauputic_: so, if mysql is in /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql do you recommend that i do ln -s /usr/local/bin/mysql /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql (or is there a way to symlink the whole directory?)12:46
j2dopeVB is grotty12:47
Friarwhen i moved on I had to work out what the symbols did lol { }12:47
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dell500where do the files from wget download?12:47
j2dopefosters is unaustralian!12:47
cafuegodell500: to the current working dirdctory12:47
thoreauputic_UncleD: why don't you just symlink the executable?12:47
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cafuegoj2dope: so am i!12:47
midwinterha fosters.12:47
Friaris there an ide equivilent to vb for linux though?12:47
UncleDthoreauputic_: maybe because there are many other programs useful12:47
UncleDthoreauputic_: in the bin/mysql directory12:47
j2dopeso is there a way to make my scroll button do something when i click it in a browser?12:47
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cafuegoFriar: More or less; there's glade...12:48
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FriarI've teied glade12:48
UncleDthoreauputic_: preferably id like to add the /usr/local/mysql/bin to my $PATH. how can i do that/12:48
cafuegoFriar: anjuta?12:48
Friartried glade and anjuta12:48
cafuegoFriar: there's a Jave one, but I can't remember its name.12:48
Friarthey are nice12:48
Friarbut not quite the same as vb/delphi12:49
thoreauputic_UncleD: globally in /etc/bash.bashrc, but /etc/profile also sources that IIRC12:49
ben_underscoreFriar, for java use netbeans or eclipse. both are ms visual studio equivalent12:49
mwewhat's the debian_chroot part doing in .bashrc: PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$ '12:49
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serengetimika0800: I got gnome-ppp to talk to the modem in my Siemens12:49
FriarI would like something like Jdeveloper12:49
ben_underscoreFriar, otherwise there is one for python that you might like...hang on i'll find the name12:49
Friarwith the gui deisgner12:49
cafuegoFriar: There's a non-free one called REALbasic12:49
cafuegoFriar: Eclipse12:50
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UncleDthoreauputic: that worked perfect. All i had to do was change /etc/profile12:51
Miklhi! can anyone help me in understanding where my drive space leak? when I do df -h it shows that i have partition 9.2 G with 8.4 G used 395 M free. But when I try du it shows that all dirs are about 4 G so i wonder where is my 4 G of drive space. may be I'm doing something wrong?12:51
mika0800gnome-ppp? Is that a (serial/Irda) terminal  or, like it name suggests, a program to make ppp -connections over a (mobile) phone line ?12:51
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Friarhow do you get eclipse?12:51
cafuegoFriar: via synaptic12:51
cafuego!info eclipse12:51
Friari see a lot of packages but not sure which one12:52
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cafuegogrr12:52
serengetimika0800: should make a ppp connection12:52
cafuegoJust pick the most liklely one12:52
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ben_underscoreFriar, the python one is http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net/12:52
mika0800did you try my echo ATDT0800123456;/r trick ?12:52
Bjelleklangis there a simple way to autostart a consolewindows at startup?12:52
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sudharshu mean the terminal?12:53
mika0800oh, in Ubuntu: where do I find the runlevel setting (to prevent X to start automatically, if I want  to start it with "startx" instead at will)12:53
serengetimika0800: yes but I'm not sure how to tell if something happened :)12:53
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serengetimika0800: I did echo -e "ATDT0800123456;\r" > /dev/ircomm12:54
ccookemika0800: Debian-derived distributions (like Ubuntu) don't use a particular runlevel to decide whether X runs or not12:55
mika0800That should make your mobile phone to make a voice call to what ever number you put after ATDT... to avoid extra phone bill, I adviced to use any 0800 -freecall number. And, you should see it from the mobile phone's display if it is calling somewhere...12:55
ccookemika0800: you just need to tell the system not to start gdm, the graphical login manager12:55
sudharshBjelleklang : Try System > Preferences >Sessions12:55
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Bjelleklangok, thanks!12:55
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mika0800ccooke: how ?12:55
sudharshthere you'll hav a tab called Startup Programs12:55
ccookemika0800: In Breezy, you can do that with System->Administration->Services12:55
mika0800in Hoary, is it the same ?12:56
sudharshwont bum do the job?12:56
thoreauputic_mika0800: update-rc.d gdm -f remove  IIRC12:56
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UncleDthoreauputic_: if I want my test copy of mysql to start on reboots, i need to create a symbolic link for it called S20 etcc... in rc2.d?12:57
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serengetimika0800: it's not calling anywhere12:57
ccookemika0800: In hoary, there's no graphical tool for it. In a terminal, run: 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove'12:57
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thoreauputic_UncleD: umm - I'm not familiar with mysql sorry -12:57
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ccookemika0800: (and if you want to add it in again, you'd run: 'sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults' )12:57
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sudharshUncleD download webmin12:57
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Battlestarhmm can someone help me with something12:58
UncleDsudharsh: I have webmin, what now?12:58
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Hobbsee!tell Battlestar about ask12:58
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karlwrkstupid bloody thing just powered off! it was supposed togive me warnings when running on batteries!12:58
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Hobbseekarlwrk: happens to me as well - very annoying!12:58
sudharshi guess u need to start mysql while booting right12:58
karlwrksuspend works pretty well, I guess that's a pluss12:59
serengetimika0800: only thing that happens is some stuff appearing in irdadump12:59
UncleDsudharsh: correct. what do I do?12:59
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Battlestarwhere do i enter startup paramenters!!!!12:59
Battlestari've been stuck on this for about 3 hours now12:59
Battlestarhad to format my machine twice12:59
sudharshdamn..i dont hav webmin now.....do u hav bum installed12:59
Battlestarand i haven't got anywehere12:59
pappanstartup parameters for what ?12:59
Battlestarlinux12:59
Battlestarubuntu12:59
sudharshBattlestar...what kinda startup params12:59
mika0800I am not very good with "C" converntions. But if /r will make a carriage return even as a parameter to echo, then ATDT0800123456;/r should make a call id your IrDa is ok01:00
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chtaminai'm editing a configuration file, using visudo etc... but i do not know how should I do to save it when done01:00
Battlestarvideo=atyfb:vmode:5,cmode:3201:00
Ngchtamina: hit escape, then type :x and hit enter01:00
Ngchtamina: that will save and exit01:01
mika0800oh: if you are not running as root: either use sudo with the command or give everyone R/W permissions on /dev/ircomm0 (or whatever in your system)01:01
Battlestari've been typing it into the boot: promt for the last 34 hours with no effect!01:01
sudharshUncleD....u need to enable mysqld at startup01:01
Battlestarand it's really starting to get annoying at 1 in the morning01:01
Battlestar*3 hours^01:01
chtaminathanks ng01:02
Battlestari really need to know where to enter this or i'm going to soon get to the point of chucking y computer and ubuntu disk out the window01:02
pappanBattlestar: what are you trying to achieve with that parameter01:03
Battlestartrying to adjust the screen refresh rate and resultion01:03
sudharshBattlestar......Waht problem are you havin exaxctly01:03
mika0800I think my next task is to shutdown the Ubuntu-PC and add more RAM (only have 64 M) since I plan to Install Borland Kylix3.... (that's why I want Hoary with it's 2.6.10 kernel, not 2.6.12)01:03
Battlestarcurently when i boot my laptop the screen it out of proportion and generally stuffed01:03
sudharshtry > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:04
Battlestari can't even navigate the login screen in this state01:04
Battlestari can barely manage to hit the shut down button01:04
ccookeBattlestar: does the text-mode side work?01:04
sudharshBattlestar try this command 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'01:04
Battlestarplenty of people are giving me commands to use...01:04
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Battlestarbut where do i enter them?!01:04
Battlestari'm jst utterly confused01:05
HobbseeBattlestar: the terminal01:05
Battlestarok how do i open the terminal01:05
sudharshok fire up a virtual console 'ctrl+alt+f1'01:05
Battlestarwhat's the hotkey01:05
sudharshok fire up a virtual console 'ctrl+alt+f1'01:05
UncleDWhich rc.* directories are iin charge of "bootup" and which are for "shut down?"01:05
irvinBattlestar, Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal01:05
HobbseeBattlestar: unless someone says otherwise, all commands are to be used in a terminal01:05
Battlestaroh hey that worked...01:05
mika0800Battlestar: or use Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get a command screen ... and Ctrl-Alt-F7 to get back to GUI !!!01:05
sudharshBattlestar try this command 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'01:05
Battlestarctrl-alt-F101:05
sudharshremember ctrl+alt+f7 back again01:06
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cozhello all01:06
sudharshi think we lost him01:06
UncleDsudharsh: Which rc*.d directories are iin charge of "bootup" and which are for "shut down?"01:06
Battlestaryay finally got logged in01:06
cozanyof you familiar with flumotion?01:06
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mika0800Ctrl-Alt-F1 may work with some systems.... but some seem to leave it blocked while GUI is running... that's why I suggest Ctrl-Alt-F2 instead01:06
sudharshUncleD....sorry i dunno01:06
Battlestarit says usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root01:07
sudharshtry the readme file in the tarball01:07
sudharshwait  while i find out01:07
mika0800Battlestar: put sudo in front of it !01:07
Battlestarok as you can tell i'm a linux n00b...01:08
Battlestarlol01:08
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sobersabrehi. I have both libdb4.2 and libdb4.3 in my breezy. I want all the programs to use 4.3 is this possible ?01:09
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Battlestarok this seems to be working...01:09
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dell500!dmix01:10
ubotufrom memory, dmix is at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin01:10
cozanyone knwo about flumotion???01:11
deanmHi all. New to ubuntu,frizzled my graphics card replaced but how do I setup X to new card?01:11
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cozhttp://users.on.net/~linux.au/bravery.jpg01:11
lowman62g'mornin room01:12
cozlowman63 morning to you01:12
sudharshdeanmthis command 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'01:12
cozdo you know anything about flumotion01:12
sobersabrecoz, liked that :)01:12
cozcool pic01:12
lowman62coz: sorry! honestly have never heard of it01:13
cozok01:13
sobersabrelooks more like "hey, bear!! you asked me to wake you uuuup :) well, wake uuuuup!!!"01:13
deanmthanks sudharsh, I'll go and resurect it now.01:13
lowman62ya that would be a pretty brave thing to do :P01:14
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cozpic wording courtesy of quail_linux01:15
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cozOK guys anyonone! know about flumotion???01:16
sudharshwhats dat01:16
cozstreamer server01:16
sudharshmovement of bied flu01:16
cozstreaming01:16
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lowman62is it flomotion or flumotion?01:17
cozhey quail_linux welcome01:17
floHow can i run Gaim Internet Messenger????01:17
sudharshUncleD....what mysql are u usin01:17
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Battlestarok with the xserv reconfiguration i did should that immediately fix things?01:17
floIm a lunux noob01:17
pappanflo: it will be in the Internet menu01:17
Battlestaror do i have to reboot?01:17
sudharshflo: Applications > Internet > Gaim01:17
floi know01:18
sudharshwell...01:18
Belboz99hey, I'm having a problem with K3B burning DVD's.  The writing speed is too slow and they are failing verification.  Any ideas?01:18
sudharshreboot01:18
cozBelbox99 uninstall K3b and install gnomebaker01:18
sudharshBelBoz99: enable DMA , run k3b as sudo01:18
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lowman62Belboz99: try this http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/chap10.php#burn01:19
Belboz99thanks guys!01:19
cozenabling dma does help01:19
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pappanflo what problem are you facing then01:20
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sudharshUncleD....what mysql are u usin...did u d/l from apt01:21
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sudharshor from the mysql website01:21
sobersabrewhat is the difference between multiverse and universe ?01:21
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mjrsobersabre, universe is free stuff, multiverse generally more or less proprietary or dependent on such01:22
s_spiffhello01:22
flowhen i add a new account and try to connect he shows me that im not connected01:22
sobersabremjr, like contrib and non-free in debian ?01:22
sudharshflo : in detail plz01:23
s_spiffmjr : means that u don't gett he source..or you pay for it?01:23
floplz? i come from germany01:23
sudharshs_spiff : u dont pay forn anything whilest usin apt01:23
s_spiffok, so means multiverse stuff , u don't get the source?01:24
sobersabrebdb q: does ubuntu use both libdb4.3 and libdb4.2 ?01:24
sudharshoh sorry...flo which protocol r u usin01:24
mjrs_spiff, you might get the source (but sometimes not); you just aren't at liberty to do some things with it01:24
s_spiffachha ok.01:25
mjrsobersabre, like, yes01:25
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floaim/icq01:25
Battlestarok i've tried reconfixuring xserv but my video is still screwed, can anyone help?01:25
nalioth!de01:25
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de01:25
Battlestari'm on an iBook G3 laptop01:25
Battlestarwith like a 12" LCd screen01:25
sudharshcan u login through the other protocols01:25
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lowman62flo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto?highlight=%28gaim%29  it is in the wiki01:26
Battlestarthe screen is just out of proportion, place, and overlapping itself01:26
Battlestarit's extremely weird01:26
sudharshBattlestar,,,,do a 'cat /etc/xorg.conf'01:26
Battlestar?01:26
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Belboz99Hey, how would I enable DMA for an SATA HD?01:26
Battlestari'm a linux n00b, please speak to me like one01:26
sudharshk mate01:27
Battlestarso just type that in the terminal01:27
Battlestar?01:27
Belboz99would it be "sdparm"?01:27
serengetimika0800: i've to go now, if I find out something new I'll share :)01:27
sudharshBattlestar..tell us the output pf 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:27
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mjrBelboz99, you shouldn't really have to (but if your drive really isn't communicating with DMA, I don't know how to fix that)01:28
lowman62Belboz99: are you using a ThinkPad?01:28
Battlestarit doesn't exist01:28
flook thanks i try it01:28
naliothBattlestar: have you been to this page? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:28
Battlestaryou mean /etc/x11/xorg.conf?01:28
naliothBattlestar: those ibooks are usually bulletproof in their settings01:28
sudharshits X11 not x11] 01:29
sudharsh*x1101:29
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NgBelboz99: an SATA disk ought to have DMA enabled already01:29
sudharshremember linux is case sesitive01:29
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Belboz99mjr, lowman62, thanks, I just read that SATA has DMA already enabled01:29
lowman62Belboz99: i was just gonna say that LOL :P01:29
lowman62Belboz99: i found this just the same ...http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problems_with_SATA_and_Linux01:30
sudharshBattlestar whatcha get01:30
midwinterhow come even when you purge delete apps they still leave all their crap everywhere like in .gconf :\01:31
Battlestarhmmm not much more luck yet01:31
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Battlestarthis thing's still being as stubborn as ever01:31
Battlestarit's almost got me in tears here01:31
Belboz99Hey, the FIFO buffer isn't showing any info01:31
sudharshBattlestar...cmon mate01:31
lowman62midwinter: i know what you mean :P01:31
sudharshdo a 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf'01:31
Belboz99Niether is the Device Buffer :(01:31
sudharshits not x11....its X1101:32
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Belboz99at least I got the DVD to burn at 3x01:32
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Battlestarhmm well as far as i can tell the command worked01:32
lowman62oi 3x...eww that is slow01:32
theineHi, does anybody know where NetworkManager stores information (for instance the essid's of networks one previously connected to)?01:33
Battlestarbut it didn't spit anything out in the terminal01:33
Battlestarand it hasn't fixed my problem01:33
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Ngmidwinter: a --purge removes system config files but never user configs, there is no way of removing a package and having it remove user configs too01:33
sudharshBattlestar u should have got some output01:33
sudharshxorg.conf is a file01:33
flook, i have it. I didnt know that i need a existing account to log in!!!!01:34
lowman62Ng: isn't there a script that will do that tho?01:34
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midwinterNg, hmm ok..01:34
sudharshBattlestar copy and paste the command u entered,,01:34
Nglowman62: nope01:34
Battlestarcan't lol01:34
lowman62Ng: would be nice if there was one tho...hmm! :P01:35
Battlestarbut i'll try and accurately read ti into here01:35
melonipoikahi all, can anyone help me configuring an ad-hoc wireless network? i get the error "connect: network is unreachable" when trying to make a ping tot he other pc...01:35
Ngmidwinter: when I'm testing an application I use a test user in the nested login feature, then I can just vape its entire home directory01:35
Belboz99Hey, anyone know why my FIFO Buffer and Device Buffer show no info in K3B?01:35
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sudharshdid 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' work01:35
Nglowman62: I'm not sure that it would and it'd be really quite complex because it would need to know about every config file that could be produced by every package01:35
Battlestarsudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom01:35
Battlestarthat's the whole command01:35
jawshoewahI am toying with an idea...is it possible to test a tar.gz for compatibility before unpacking?01:36
sudharshalrite u r backing up the file01:36
midwinterNg, okay i'll look into that maybe, thanks01:36
sudharshnow check the contents of xorg.conf01:36
Ngjawshoewah: you could use "tar tzf foo.tgz" - that'll list the files in the tarball if it's valid01:36
sudharshand see for abnormalities01:36
lowman62Ng: that is true...but like midwinter said it is irritating that all that does not get cleaned up when you remove an app01:36
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alekandrAnyone got steam to work on breezy?01:37
CosminGhow can I use the webcam on ubuntu???????01:37
melonipoikadoes anyone know that can be wrong when i get the error "network is unreachable"? i have no idea where to look for that...01:37
Battlestarok so how do i check the file for abnormalities01:37
Ngalekandr: yes, but I used cedega01:37
CosminGhow can I use the webcam on ubuntu???????01:37
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jawshoewahng: will that actually test compatibility with a particualr system?01:37
Belboz99alekander, you mean Steam from Valve?01:37
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sudharshBattlestar is ur video card and all getting detected correctly01:37
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Ngjawshoewah: only in that if tar doesn't understand the file it will fail to list them, it's not actually a test operation though01:38
alekandrNg: does it run well?01:38
sudharshCosminG google spca5xx and 'apt-get install camorama'01:38
alekandrBelboz99: yeah :] 01:38
Ngalekandr: it runs well enough to play, but it's not as fast or pretty as running in windows. it's enough for me to get my fill of killing terrorists though ;)01:38
CosminGsudharsh thanks01:38
alekandroh man01:39
alekandri need to play cs:s :)01:39
UncleDIf im sshd into my machine, is there a reason why I would suddenly get disconnected from the box (reconnecting no problem) ?01:39
sudharshalekandr: subscribe for cedega01:39
Belboz99alekandr, I got it to run.  HL2 didn't have the best FPS though.  AA didn't work, and I still haven't figured out how to get my resolution up to 1152x864 @75hz.01:39
alekandrwell its either wine, or cedega steam and cs:s for a windows server 03 vmware01:39
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NgUncleD: does it disconnect after a period of inactivity? If so it's a router cutting an idle connection (which ssh can work around)01:39
alekandror01:39
ccc_Belboz99: there is a native linux version for AA01:39
Belboz99ccc_ can you point me in the right direction?01:40
Ngalekandr: vmware is useless for games like cs:s01:40
Battlestarhmm well as far as i can tell it's being detected sorrectly01:40
Battlestar*correctly01:40
UncleDNg: No, it was right after I ran a ./configure script01:40
UncleDsuddenly i got d/c'd01:40
alekandr:(01:40
sudharshok mate give me the output in pvt01:40
Battlestardetects it as a ATI mobility M3 or something01:40
ccc_Belboz99: google for their homepage, it's available there01:40
alekandrok, cedega it is01:40
UncleDNg: How can I workaround via ssh the inactivity problem though, I have that too.01:40
sudharshalekandr: cedega aint free01:40
Battlestarthe problem is i don't know what the vsyc ranges and stuf are for the lcd screen01:40
alekandrI know :] 01:40
sudharshmeen either....i dont use lcd...01:41
sudharshdid 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' work01:41
NgUncleD: edit ~/.ssh/config and put two lines at the top, the first with "Host *" on and the second with "ServerAliveInterval 60" - that will make it send a keepalive packet every minute01:41
sudharshi mean reconfigure X01:41
Belboz99ccc_ thanks.  Oddly enough I just rememberd I have nvidia-settings.  In nvidia-settings I was able to increase the AA and AF :)01:42
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Krishnautixcan someone help me mount a master hdd?01:42
Battlestaryes well this is a 12" lcd screen on a lapto01:42
UncleDNg.. I don't seem to have an .ssh/config01:42
Battlestarand atm it's quite messy01:42
NgUncleD: that's fine, it's not there by default, so create it :)01:42
ccc_Belboz99: oh, i thought you meant AA = america's army :O01:43
Belboz99anyone know how I can get Ubuntu to run on 1152x864 res @ 75Hz01:43
Belboz99ccc_ lol :)01:43
ccc_:)01:43
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Bjelleklangubuntu/kubuntu: is the only difference gnome/kde?01:43
naliothBjelleklang: pretty much, yes. :)01:43
Krishnautixhey why does it say my nicks already taken?01:43
Rawplayergood job sherlock01:43
Belboz99I have xorg configured properly AFAIK, but Ubuntu just won't let me change the res01:43
Krishnautix I had registered it...01:43
naliothKrishnautix: /msg nickserv help ghost01:44
Krishnautix and I can see myself online ..s_spiff! when I'm online via Krishnautix!01:44
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UncleDNg: is that like some kind of NOOP?01:45
Battlestaroh i'm so frustrated right now...01:45
Battlestari wish i'd never formatted OSX off my laptop01:45
Krishnautixit gives an error that no channel joined, nalioth .01:45
NgUncleD: yup01:45
UncleDNg: I'm adding that to my host machine or the remote server I connect too?01:45
Krishnautix infact eevn while registering I had the same error01:45
NgUncleD: on your host machine01:45
sudharshBattlestar dont giv up hope jus yet01:45
NgUncleD: the "Host *" means it'll then apply to any remote server you connect to from that machine01:45
naliothubotu: tell Krishnautix about ghost01:45
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alvienyhyg01:46
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sudharshBattlestar...jus tell me did  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  work or not01:47
Battlestarno01:47
Krishnautixbrb01:47
NeFHey howzit01:47
sudharshwhat error did u get01:47
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Battlestarno error01:47
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sudharshwait a sec...did u select the server install01:47
Battlestareverything should be fine but my screen just looks crazy01:47
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NeFI installed ubuntu and when it loads the Grub it gives an "error 18"01:47
Battlestarserver install?01:47
Krishnautixlast time apparently my nick wasn't registered01:48
Krishnautix so now i cant kill that ghost..01:48
Krishnautix what to do?01:48
sudharshok Battlestar...plz do this command ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'01:48
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naliothKrishnautix: you are stuck if you havent registered your nick, and someone else is using it01:49
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sudharshmate..did ur installtion go fine or did it complain bout mismathcin resolutions01:49
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NeFwho me?01:49
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sudharshguyz i jus compiled the 2.6.25 kernel but when i boot through it the usplash is all messed up01:50
Battlestarok entered the reconfiguration again01:50
misiekhi there , i have a problem installing ubuntu01:50
sudharsh*oops 2.6.1501:50
sudharshk man tell me whats the 1st screen01:50
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sudharshi'll go along with ya01:50
NeFi get an error 18 after installation01:50
Battlestartitle is configuring xserver-xorg01:50
Battlestarjust has the opton for autodectecting video card01:51
concept10Is it my install, or is Firefox 1.5 full of bugs and memory leaks?01:51
Battlestari usually select yes01:51
sudharshnow dont attempt to detect automatically01:51
Battlestark01:51
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misiekfirst of all when the installer reaches the user and password cration  it seems to go in a never ending loop01:51
sudharshtell me whatcha u getting01:51
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sudharshu'll get the 'Select the desired X-server..01:52
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onkarshindeCan anyone tell me it is at all possible to play dvds using totem-gstreamer by installing varioud gstreamer plugins in breezy?01:52
misiekits asking me on and on again to type the new user name and password01:52
s_spifffinally!01:52
sudharshonkarshinde: install totem-xine01:53
Battlestarok nowit wants me to select the appropriate dirver01:53
s_spiffhey I want to install new icon set..how do i do it?01:53
sudharshbingo...what video card do u hav01:53
sakkewubuntu installation should have a big warning message about risks in installing grub. i wonder how many installations it has messed up.01:53
naliothonkarshinde: of course it is01:53
onkarshindesudharsh: I already know that. I was just wondering why gstreamer lacks the functionality01:53
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Battlestarati, ships, fbdev, glint, imstt, mga, nv, riva128, s3, etc.01:53
Battlestarhmmm01:53
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s_spifficon themes it called on gnome-look.org01:53
Battlestarwell i have no idea01:53
sudharshk now select vesa01:53
onkarshindenalioth: and which plugins would you suggest in addition to default?01:53
Battlestaralthough from memory i think it's an ati of some sort01:54
lordasbach*tada*01:54
sudharshno dont do an ati...select vesa01:54
Battlestarthere is no vesa01:54
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Davey`is there some configuration for the "locate" command to tell it which folders to index?01:54
onkarshindeBattlestar: do a 'lspci' in console to find out01:54
sudharshscroll down01:54
sudharshthere should be vesa01:54
Battlestarthere is no scolling01:55
Battlestarthe last one on the list is VGA01:55
sudharshpush the 'down arrow'01:55
Battlestarthat's the only v on the list01:55
s_spiffcan some one help me with installing new icon themes?01:55
sudharshk man seems u r havin a Apple computer01:55
naliothonkarshinde: ask ubotu about dvd. if totem won't play dvd's, very likely it is looking at the wrong mount point01:55
sudharshselect vga01:55
onkarshinde!dvd01:55
Battlestark01:56
Battlestarnow it wans me to input an identifier01:56
Battlestarit already has a ATI card name in there01:56
BattlestarRage mobility M301:56
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s_spiff! installing icon themes01:56
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, s_spiff01:56
misiekanyone can help me with the new user creation during install problem?01:56
sudharshcool...select ok01:56
onkarshindenalioth: I can't play dvds very well with totem-gstreamer, i can play them with totem-xine. How to identify if my dvd is encrypted?01:56
misiekoh and i have a problem with X too01:56
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sudharshs_spiff u must extract the icon themes in .icons01:56
onkarshindemisiek: what is problem?01:57
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s_spiffok.01:57
naliothonkarshinde: they all are, have you installed libdvdcss and libdvdread?01:57
s_spiff thanks01:57
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onkarshindenalioth: yes, I have01:57
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Battlestarok now it is goin on abotu bus entry01:57
naliothonkarshinde: then i'm unsure why one won't play but the other will01:57
sudharshselect ok01:57
misiek when the installer reaches the user and password cration  it seems to go in a never ending loop01:57
Battlestarbut says it's not applicable if you only have one video card01:57
misiekasking for new user on and on01:57
onkarshindemisiek: can you explain more?01:58
sudharshnvr mind,....jus proceed01:58
Battlestarok default bus in CPI:0:16:001:58
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onkarshindeBattlestar: use lspci command which card01:58
Battlestari can't onkarshinde, doing recondfig atm01:58
onkarshinde!gstreamer01:58
ubotuonkarshinde: I don't know, could you explain it?01:58
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s_spiffsudharsh, Once i extract them there, then what?01:59
misiekwhen i create a user and a passwrd it will ask for another one and then for another and so on01:59
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s_spiffsorry, I'm a noob to this..01:59
sudharshselect the theme from System > Preferences > theme01:59
Battlestarok next is dedicated memory fromt eh system memory01:59
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misieki can go back to the main menu and skip user creation but then im whithout a user01:59
onkarshindeBattlestar: are you not in GUI? Then use Ctrl+Alt+F2 to open another text console01:59
Battlestarnot appliccable cause my card has a whole 4MB of memory or something01:59
sudharshk then ju press enter02:00
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naliothBattlestar: may i ask just what ibook you have? the exact model?02:00
Battlestari don't know the exact model ibook02:00
Battlestarit's like 5 years off02:00
Battlestar233MHz02:00
Battlestar*old02:00
onkarshindeIs rhythmbox not instaled by default in breezy? Because when I upgraded from hoary to breezy then rhythmbox wasn't upgraded.02:00
Battlestar192MB SDRAM02:00
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Battlestarand yea the VGA controller is a ATI Rage mobility M302:01
sudharshvow...Battlestar what r u gettin now02:01
misiek when i create a user and a passwrd it will ask for another one and then for another and so on02:01
misieki can go back to the main menu and skip user creation but then im whithout a user02:01
Battlestarkernel frambuffer option02:01
Battlestardefault is yes02:02
sudharshenable the thing02:02
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Battlestarthen keyboard layout02:02
jessy#zlatograd02:02
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Battlestarselect no to canel redetect?02:02
Battlestar\*cancel02:02
sudharshBattlestar autodetect the keyboard layout02:02
Battlestark02:02
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Battlestareneterd keyboard as "us"02:03
jawshoewahI installed beep last night and in no time was enjoying listening to my m4a files while playing net panzer...I went to sleep and when I awoke went to start beep then xmms i click nothing happens...any comments?02:03
sudharshthe followin screens should be self explainatory02:03
BattlestarXKB rule set...02:03
seishiwhat can i do to put a perl script on boot?02:03
Battlestardefault is xorg02:03
sudharshfollow the default02:03
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Battlestarok next is keyboard model02:04
Battlestardefault is pc10402:04
seishi=p02:04
sudharshtell me when u get to the select xorg modules02:04
NeFcan some1 help me with my istallation with ubuntu?02:04
Battlestarok02:04
Battlestarflicking thru keyboard and mouse stuff02:04
Battlestarok up to xorg modules now02:05
Battlestarwhat do i do /me runs around in circles02:05
onkarshindeseishi: edit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh and add 'perl /path/to/yourscript.pl' to it02:05
seishithanks02:05
sudharshselect ok02:05
onkarshindeNeF: what is problem02:06
Battlestarwrite default files section to configuration files?02:06
NeFi installed it, it then asks me to reboot and awsners some questions on my pc but b4 it gets there my pc stops at the Grub loading and gives an "error 18"02:06
sudharshyup02:06
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Battlestarwrite default DRI section to configuration file?02:06
sudharshypu02:06
sudharsh*yup02:06
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Battlestarmonitor autodetect?02:07
onkarshindeNeF: is there any explanation for error? What are you trying to install on? Is it external drive?02:07
s_spiffsomeone can help me with mounting a master hdd?02:07
sudharshok mate this may get dirty...dont autodetect02:07
onkarshindes_spiff: I suppose I can02:07
Battlestarenter identifier02:07
s_spiffi have a master hdd, 120 gb...6 partitions02:07
s_spiff all fat 3202:07
Battlestari'm jst using "generic monitor02:07
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sudharshhmm.....02:08
onkarshindes_spiff: so what exactly do you want to do?02:08
sudharshwell select that for now02:08
s_spiff and i wanna mount them at boot up ..so that i can read/write and execute the stuff on those partitions02:08
Battlestarok video modes?02:08
NeFonkarshinde: trying to install it on a 30gig hdd, master settings02:08
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Battlestar1024x768 and down are all selected02:08
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lowman62NeF: error 18 means that your slected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by the BIOS02:08
sudharshk..whats the ur screen size02:08
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Battlestar12"02:08
onkarshindes_spiff: Is it master or slave?02:09
sudharshwhat resolution did u use in OSX02:09
onkarshinde!ntfs02:09
ubotuwell, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK02:09
NeFlowman62: what must i do then02:09
s_spiffi'm online slave right now... the 120 is a master02:09
s_spiff i'm botted via 80 ..02:09
onkarshindes_spiff: may be this will help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions02:09
lowman62in short it means that the BIOS is unable to start execution of the kernel because the kernel is not located withiin a block that it can access02:09
Battlestar800x600 pretty sure02:09
s_spiff in the bio, i changed the second boot device to the 80 gb hdd.02:10
NeFo02:10
s_spiffok02:10
Battlestartried that already but didn't make a difference02:10
sudharshk then check if its enabled02:10
Battlestaronly enable 640x480?02:10
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onkarshindeNeF: did you do anything weird between the installation and rebbot?02:10
lowman62NeF: you can find the solution to this in this thread http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=122656&highlight=grub+error+collection02:10
sudharshi didnt get you....is only 640x480 enabled?02:10
Battlestarno 640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768 are all enabled02:11
NeFonkarshinde: no02:11
lowman62looks to me like you need to partition your drive into two02:11
Battlestardo you want me to disable the last 202:11
NeFlowman62: ta02:11
s_spiffhey i just click on the link u gave onkarshinde , and the [ since i've installed KDE just yesterday]  the link opened in Konkueror!02:11
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lowman62NeF: yw :)02:11
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s_spiff how to i sepearte these two damn envionments!!!!02:11
sudharshhmm...finish the configuration02:11
jorge_algun espaol por ahi?02:11
Battlestarwith or without disabling the two higher resultions?02:11
sudharshno dont disable anything02:12
Battlestark02:12
ompaul!es02:12
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:12
sudharshas of now02:12
Battlestarok next is monitor characteristics02:12
jawshoewahwouls using two sound sources simultaneously cause xmms and beep to uninstall or not work by themselves?02:12
Battlestarsimple medium or advanced?02:12
onkarshindes_spiff: you can set preffered browser in System->Preferences->Prefered Applications02:12
sudharshdo it simple02:12
Battlestarlol it has 17 inch monitor selected by default02:13
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Battlestarthe lowest it goes it "up to 14""02:13
gypsymaurohello02:13
lowman62hello02:13
sudharshvow...then i guess we zeroed into the problem02:13
lapduckyjawshoewah, a rootkit can be used to 'mysteriously' uninstall things, but short of that -- no things do not uninstall themselves -- ever.02:13
sudharshselect the lowest res then02:13
gypsymauroI can't install emacs-snapshot on breezy it says there is a problem of depencencies on emacs-snapshot-bin-common any hint?02:13
Battlestardon't think so02:13
NeFlowman62 ta :D02:13
Battlestari selected the lowest res last time lol02:14
s_spiffonkarshinde, thanks you very much! it worked!02:14
Battlestarbut sure i'll try it again02:14
NeFonkarshinde thanx sa well :D02:14
NeFas*02:14
lowman62NeF: no prob had the same prob on the weekend that solved it for me02:14
sudharshwell u selected vesa this time...remeber02:14
NeFhehe02:14
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NeFcheers :D02:14
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Battlestarok next is write sync ranges to configuration file?02:14
lowman62cheers02:14
sudharshokie dokie02:14
Battlestark02:15
Battlestarcolour depth...02:15
Battlestar24 bit?02:15
jawshoewahlapducky: it's strange both bleep and xmms worked flawlessy last night and today i click on the application menu and nothing happens02:15
sudharshgeez...did OSX support 24 bit?...forgive me mate02:15
Battlestarlol02:15
Battlestarit supported 32 bit02:15
lowman62jawshoewah: do you have any sound at all on your computer?02:16
Battlestar24 is selected by feault anyway02:16
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sudharshdid u know 24 n 32 are the same except for the additional alpha channels02:16
Battlestaryes it says that here02:16
sudharshgo ahead and select the the 24 bit thingy02:16
Battlestarok configuration overwirtten02:16
Battlestarit should be done02:16
lowman62jawshoewah: when you boot up do you hear sound?02:17
sudharshreboot....02:17
Ngyou generally can't get more than 2^24 colours, but using 32bit instead of 24bit means a) you get some alpha stuff, b) word boundaries line up far better which makes memory access faster02:17
Battlestark02:17
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Battlestarhow do i reboot in console?02:17
sudharshis everythin done02:17
Battlestaryea02:17
lowman62rebbot02:17
Battlestarshould be02:17
lowman62reboot02:17
FanskapetBattlestar: sudo -s02:17
lowman62:P02:17
sudharshsudo init 602:17
jawshoewahyes sound works fine02:17
Fanskapetand then reboot02:17
redguy|workshutdown -r now02:17
naliothBattlestar: sudo shutdown -r now02:17
lapduckyjawshoewah, there are several things that can go wrong besides uninstallation.  I think you're barking up the correct tree when looking at the sound server (just confused about *how* it can break).02:18
Fanskapetor02:18
AIVdoes someone know of internet radio that I could play using my ubuntu?02:18
Fanskapetsu -c reboot02:18
Fanskapet:)02:18
naliothAIV: shoutcast.com02:18
Battlestarok restarting02:18
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Battlestarhpefully this fixes it02:18
redguy|workFanskapet: you need to have a root account enabled to do that02:18
onkarshindeAIV: install streamtuner and you will have lots of stations02:18
AIVnalioth, thanks02:18
Battlestarif it doesn't i'm going to bed and gonna deal with it tomorow02:19
lapduckyjawshoewah, crimsun is the one to ask about weird sound issues.02:19
jawshoewahfor example rythmbox still plays but when called xmms and beep dont respond...so alsa?02:19
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sudharshk mate...jus tell me if it does02:19
Friarwhats the chmod command to make something executable?02:19
Battlestark02:19
jawshoewahpossibly?02:19
onkarshindejawshoewah: try to select different plugin in beep and xmms, preferably alsa02:19
AIVonkarshinde, thanks02:19
lowman62Friar: yes you can us chmod to change permissions to make something executable or not02:20
lapduckyjawshoewah, have you checked all the 'silly' things that may have gone wrong.  I.e. pathname and executeable are correct, as well as file permissions?02:20
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onkarshindeFriar: chmod 755 filename02:20
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lowman62sudo chmod +x  filename02:20
jawshoewaherrrr I will attempt ..i actueally know not where to look for those settings in the modules02:20
Battlestaruh oh02:21
Battlestarblue screen on startup02:21
Battlestari didn't think that was possible in linux :P02:21
lowman62LOL02:21
onkarshindejawshoewah: for xmms Ctrl+P is shortcut for preferences, go to output plugins02:21
sudharshdamn....jus a blue screen02:21
Friarhhas anyone managed to get Kbasic installed?02:21
sudharshnothin else???02:21
Battlestar"faield to start X server"02:22
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Battlestar"it is likely that it is not set up correctly"02:22
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sudharshlooks like u hav to go through the configuration again02:22
jawshoewahxmms wont launch though02:22
Battlestar"would you like to view the x server output to diagnose the problem?"02:22
lowman62Friar: I used a rpm and alien it into a deb package and installed it02:22
onkarshindejawshoewah: try to launch from console to see if there is any error02:22
sudharshdont send me to hell.......jus select ati02:23
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Friarnm i think i found a howto on the forums02:23
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Battlestarlol02:23
sudharshand go through the process once again02:23
jawshoewahoh that trick works for more than just firefox...i should experiment more..02:23
Battlestardo i want to view the Xserver output?02:23
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Battlestarno?02:23
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sudharshnot needed...ur card is the culprit02:23
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sudharshi suppose u'll be led into a configuration screen02:24
allison_1984why am I not able to configure my ethernet connection ? some help....02:24
jawshoewahat $ xmms nothing happens02:25
jawshoewahblinking cursor no gui02:25
onkarshindejawshoewah: ho did you install xmms and beep?02:25
jawshoewahin gui applications>ADD APlications02:25
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Battlestarok i'mgoing back thru the config02:26
onkarshindejawshoewah: And have you played it at least once after installation?02:26
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lapduckyAnyone -- I've just install the binary GL (accelerated) drivers for Nvidia using Synaptic and the package pulled in a 386 kernel image.  I already have the 686 image of that version installed.  Why is this?  When I boot the machine will it change the default kernel in GRUB?  (If not, what good is it doing on my machine?)02:26
Friaris alien easy to use?02:26
lowman62jawshoewah: try /usr/bin/xmms & at console and see if that opens it up02:26
sudharshFriar: damn easy..02:26
jawshoewahyes the first time i used beep was last night02:26
jawshoewahi used it while playing netpanzer02:26
Battlestarback up to xserver modules02:26
Battlestarso far02:26
onkarshindelapducky: you pulled wrong version of glx driver. You should have pulled one for 686 kernel02:26
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deFryskFriar, easy to use though the created packages do not always work properly so make sure if there is a .deb available befor you use it02:27
jawshoewahsame responce with /usr/bin/xmms02:27
lowman62jawshoewah: what is the response please?02:28
sudharshok Battlestar..when u come to seleceting ur video dirver select ati02:28
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jawshoewahtwo sounds sources one audio card02:28
Battlestaroh and a note: it says in configuring screen parameters that simple is not useable for LCD screens02:28
onkarshindejawshoewah: on console try 'sudo apt-get install xmms'02:28
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Battlestaryea already past there02:28
jawshoewahat the terminal i type the command it send cursor to next line a blinks02:28
sudharshselected sti?02:28
sudharsh*ati?02:28
Battlestaryep02:28
Battlestari'm up to monitor setings again02:28
lowman62jawshoewah: try ....  whereis xmms02:29
Battlestarso wanna try medium or advanced this time?02:29
onkarshindejawshoewah: no, first press Ctrl+C02:29
sudharshk lets start with advanced02:29
Battlestari have no idea what the refresh on this LCD panel is though02:29
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StyXmanhi all02:29
Battlestarsays enter horizontal sync rage02:29
Battlestaralready has 28-51 there02:29
misiekOkey lets sum up my problems with ubuntu installation:02:29
misiek1. During install when i create a user and a passwrd it will ask for another one and then for another and so on.02:29
misiekI can go back to the main menu and skip user creation but then i get errors on logon.02:29
misiek2. X-problem: Why the hell does it ask me about the location of graphics card? It is prefilled with PCI:2:0:0 or something. I have an AGP ati radeon card. I dont remember this question installing debian on my laptop...02:29
misiekNow the driver: i tried autodetect (i think it choose vesa) as well as ati. And i end up with Xerror "cant find a screen" or something... I remember getting the same error on debian when i chose the wrong driver.02:29
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naliothar misiek02:30
lapduckyonkarshinde, I checked the repositories -- there is only one version (aside from the various flavours like -dev -dbg).  Did you actually look that up?02:30
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Battlestarok so am i going with what's already there?02:30
sudharshk proceed02:30
MunchkinguyIm testing out Ubuntu on a Live CD. Im trying to set up my PPPoE internet connection.02:30
MunchkinguyI went to the Network Connections setup program, but the only thing I could do was change the properties of existing connections.02:30
lapduckyANd, BTW, the other flavours all have the same dependencies?02:30
Battlestarthen same for vertical02:30
MunchkinguyI couldnt press the add connection button because it wasnt there.02:30
Battlestar43-60 already in there02:30
sudharshvow....this is interesting u'll b02:30
Munchkinguycould somebody help?02:31
jawshoewahwhat is ctrl-c for?02:31
StyXmanI'm fighting against network manager. it keeps reconfiguring my network to non-working values. and I can't seem to get rid of it. I already stoped hotplug-net and hotplug, killed it, but it's still there fsking my conf.02:31
sudharshthats it try rebooting02:31
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onkarshindelapducky: can you tell me what was package name?02:31
Battlestark rebooting now02:31
jawshoewahhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/683302:31
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StyXmanMunchkinguy: yes, somebody could help. just make your question.02:32
sudharshhang on..02:32
MunchkinguyI just stated my problem above02:32
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misiekOkey lets sum up my problems with ubuntu installation:02:32
misiek1. During install when i create a user and a passwrd it will ask for another one and then for another and so on.02:32
misiekI can go back to the main menu and skip user creation but then i get errors on logon.02:32
misiek2. X-problem: Why the hell does it ask me about the location of graphics card? It is prefilled with PCI:2:0:0 or something. I have an AGP ati radeon card. I dont remember this question installing debian on my laptop...02:32
misiekNow the driver: i tried autodetect (i think it choose vesa) as well as ati. And i end up with Xerror "cant find a screen" or something... I remember getting the same error on debian when i chose the wrong driver.02:32
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lowman62jawshoewah: close synaptic first02:33
naliothmisiek: read the /topic please02:33
StyXmanmisiek: we read you the fisrt time, thanks02:33
jawshoewahsays its already the newest version02:33
MunchkinguyMy problem is that I'm trying to set up a PPPoE internet connection, but the "Add Connection" button has mysteriously disappeared02:33
lowman62jawshoewah: it is installed already02:34
lowman62yes you have the latest and greatest02:34
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jawshoewahcorrect but it wont launch..neither will beep02:34
lapduckyonkarshinde, nvidia-glx (I guess you didn't really consider my question the first time, heh-heh)02:34
naliothmisiek: we appreciate your efforts to help yourself, but pastebin that stuff and show folks the URL to the pastebin02:34
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Battlestari can't believe this02:34
thegladiatorkubuntu02:34
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sudharshwaht worked???02:34
onkarshindejawshoewah: so the problem lies at some other corner. I mean xmms is properly installed still it won't launch. Not a problem with xmms02:34
Battlestarit's still saying my x server isn't set up properly02:34
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lowman62one sec jawshoewah am checking into something for you02:34
jawshoewahty02:34
lowman62yw :)02:35
Battlestarhmmmm02:35
sudharshk mate......plz bear with me02:35
onkarshindelapducky: just wanted to confirm. I don't understand why it pulled a kernel. Anyways your default option won't change with installation of new kernel.02:35
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misieki dont undestand pastebin02:35
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sudharshdo an autodetect this time02:35
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CanYouHelpMePlzmisiek: pastebin.com02:36
MunchkinguyStyXman: Do you know how to fix my internet problem?02:36
misiekthanks02:36
ompaulmisiek, it is a web page paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:36
Battlestarhold on i just tried reconfiguring it differently02:36
naliothmisiek: you copy that stuff you're pasting in here, into the blank space at paste.ubuntulinux.nl   Click "send" and bring us back the URL that comes up02:36
Battlestarsee if this one works02:36
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sudharshyup02:36
Battlestari think i know something that could have caused the problem...02:36
Battlestarwell that time anyway02:36
sudharshwhat...:)02:37
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Battlestarif this doesn't work i dunno what will02:37
lowman62jawshoewah: have tried just this at prompt since it is already in your path ... "xmms &" without quotes?02:37
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jawshoewahwill try02:37
lowman62ok02:37
lowman62let me know02:37
lapduckyonkarshinde, whenever I deliberately install a kernel image, it seems too.  I think debconf does this -- but maybe it only prefers newer or more specific architectures when updating GRUB/LILO...   =P02:37
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misiekhttp://pastebin.com/49770902:37
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sudharshBattlestar...what wont work..02:37
Battlestaroh it was a number i changed last time when i went thru the config02:38
Battlestari just changed it back to see if i cause yet another problem02:38
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jawshoewahenter text at terminal xmms hit return cursor goes to next line and blinks as if it s running without a gui02:38
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Battlestarlol02:38
jawshoewahlsmod02:38
jawshoewah?02:38
Battlestarokay i'm not getting an effor message anymore so i was right about theat one02:38
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Battlestarbut i'm back at square 102:38
jawshoewahwill that list it as a process?02:38
Battlestarback wiht my demented scren02:39
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lowman62jawshoewah: sounds to me like it is running in process kill that process or however many of them you got going02:39
sudharshwell.....do the same stuff...selecting ati02:39
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Battlestarthat's what i just did02:39
jawshoewahhow do i do that?\02:39
lowman62yes ps -al02:39
sudharshk Battlestar......go 2 a termina;02:39
jawshoewahmy linux toys 2 book only has som many abcs of linux in appendix!02:40
lowman62ctrl+c first to get your prompt back then02:40
Munchkinguylowman62: Im testing out Ubuntu on a Live CD. Im trying to set up my PPPoE internet connection.02:40
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sylvyohello02:40
Battlestarok in terminal02:40
Munchkinguybut the "add connection" button is missing02:40
sylvyohey02:40
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sylvyoWHERE ARE YOU FROM?02:40
lowman62ps -al <--should show you the PID kille'm02:40
sudharshu mite feel like killing me02:40
onkarshindelapducky: Ahh. I observed once. Its only that your default option is constant but your kernel listing has changed. 386 will be listed before 686 in grub menu02:40
naliothsylvyo: join #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting please, #ubuntu is a help and support channel02:41
sylvyook02:41
sudharshtype 'sudo cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:41
sylvyoTHANKS SUCKER02:41
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AIVusing streamcast, I can't tune into ant stations, the error I get is "failed to execute child processes "xmms" (no such file or directory)"02:41
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misieki posted on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6834 as well02:41
AIVdoes anyone know what that is all about?02:41
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Battlestarhmm well that made a blur of information pass thru my screen02:42
MunchkinguyI wouldn't mind some "help and support"02:42
lowman62thanks nalioth..re sylvyo02:42
naliothlowman62: we all do what we can02:42
sudharshBattlestar gimme the contents in pvt02:43
lowman62well i appreciate it :)02:43
Battlestarhow di do it in private02:43
onkarshindeMunchkinguy: go on.02:43
Battlestarhow do i give u the contents fullstop02:43
naliothBattlestar: use a pastebin02:43
sudharshwell copy em02:43
{{brooklyn}}Munchkinguy02:43
sudharshcopy-paste02:43
Battlestarok explain copy....02:43
MunchkinguyIm testing out Ubuntu on a Live CD. Im trying to set up my PPPoE internet connection.02:43
gypsymaurohello I've doenloaded some packages and then created a cd using dpkg-scanpackages, now I can add my cd  with apt-cdrom add but when I try to install a packages from the CD apt-get says "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" a list of packages and "Install these packages without verification [y/N] ", how I can make them authenticated?02:44
{{brooklyn}}i also have same problem02:44
MunchkinguyI went to the Network Connections setup program, but the only thing I could do was change the properties of existing connections. I couldnt press the add connection button because it wasnt there.02:44
Battlestari'm chatting on a completely diferent PC to the one i'm trying to get this working on02:44
naliothubotu: tell gypsymauro about gpgerr02:44
Battlestarand the output it a coupe of pages long02:44
sudharshohhhh.....02:44
onkarshindeMunchkinguy: do 'sudo pppeoconf' from terminal02:44
{{brooklyn}}that how i do it02:44
onkarshindeMunchkinguy: sorry 'sudo pppoeconf'02:44
naliothBattlestar: paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:44
sudharshalrito....now go to the configuration02:44
Friarmy hash key dont work02:44
Munchkinguyonkarshinde: that's all I have to do?02:45
onkarshindeMunchkinguy: Yes, it will ask you a couple of questions02:45
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MunchkinguyThank you.02:45
Battlestarok going back to reconfigure...02:45
onkarshindeMunchkinguy: But I don't know how you can sustain your configurations from live CD02:45
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sudharshthis time attempt to autodetect02:45
lowman62jawshoewah: yt?02:45
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Battlestarit just fails and asks me to select a dirver anyway02:46
jawshoewahyes02:46
gypsymauronalioth: uh? I suppose isn't the gpg error02:46
misieknoone can help me? please tell so now, so i dont have to wait here in vain02:46
Battlestarso i select ATI02:46
lowman62jawshoewah: did that work?02:46
sudharshok02:46
jawshoewahi dont know the syntaxt for killing a process02:46
naliothgypsymauro: if you follow the instructions, you can put your cd back in and when you apt-get update it'll reverify it02:46
{{brooklyn}}onkarshinde:can how to disconnect internet connection??02:47
naliothgypsymauro: or you can comment out the line in your sources.list and not worry about it anymore02:47
misiekbrooklyn: unplug the cable?02:47
sudharshBattlestar.....looks like i cant be of much help now02:47
lowman62jawshoewah: kill <pid number>02:47
gypsymauronalioth: I think maybe the problem is that on my CD I've not a Release file02:47
naliothgypsymauro: it is a locally made CD ?02:47
jawshoewahwhat will list pid numbers02:47
{{brooklyn}}other method??02:47
gypsymauronalioth: yes02:47
lowman62jawshoewah: ps -al02:48
naliothgypsymauro: ah, then yes. you'll just have to deal with the msgs02:48
Battlestarlol02:48
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Battlestaroh well thanks for all ur help sudharsh02:48
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Battlestarand hangin in there with me02:48
lowman62jawshoewah: yw :)02:48
sudharshsorry mate....anyways02:48
onkarshinde{{brooklyn}}: poff ppp0 or poff dsl-provider02:48
Battlestarlooks like this one aint gonna be solved... for now at least02:48
{{brooklyn}}thank02:48
Battlestari'll have anothr hack at it tomorrow after work02:48
sudharshspeak with the apple guyz nevertheless02:48
Battlestarit's 3am here atm lol02:48
sudharshalrito...02:49
jawshoewahps -al gives me bacl some confusing data02:49
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naliothBattlestar: come back in about 8-10 hours and ask me then (i just got off work and need to sleep)02:49
Battlestaranyway thanks again02:49
Battlestarcya02:49
sudharshhere in chennai  its 7:3002:49
sudharshcya02:49
misiek what does "nalioth sets mode: -b %misiek!*@*"02:49
gypsymauronalioth: uhm I want to ship that CD to students of a school so I hope to throw away that message, there is an easy way to build that Release file?02:49
misiekmean02:49
sobersabrewhere can I read ubuntu-java installation instruction ?02:49
naliothmisiek: it means you were quieted (from sending to the channel)02:49
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sudharshjava for firefox?02:49
lowman62jawshoewah: look to the right hand side of the output for xmms then locate its PID #02:50
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sudharshjawshoewah...try 'top' and locate xmms02:50
naliothgypsymauro: see the debian maintainers guide at debian.org (or visit #ubuntu-motu and ask there)02:50
naliothubotu: tell sobersabre about java02:50
lowman62jawshoewah: or you can do it the Windblows way and reboot LOL02:50
gypsymauromotu?:)02:50
misieknalioth: why did you quit me?02:50
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naliothmisiek: the /topic is the first thing you see when you join a channel02:50
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kemikgot a problem installing gamin and libgamin, what do i do? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6835     (reasons for intsalling: gamin has a big memoryleak which consumes 100-400mb of memory after a few hours uptime)02:50
jawshoewahno i need to learn the gnu way!02:51
naliothmisiek: the /topic provides info for folks in the channel02:51
jawshoewahhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/683602:51
naliothgypsymauro: motu = masters of the universe (repository)02:51
jawshoewahxmms isnt listed02:51
misiekoright. sorry for ingnoring this message. i did use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6834 now02:51
kaosAnyone know how to add IPv4 to Wireless card??02:51
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Ngkemik: install both packages with one dpkg call, then the dependencies will be satisfied02:51
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gypsymaurotanx:)02:51
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lowman62jawshoewah: or you can Applications>System Tools>System Monitor and at the Processes tab locate xmms and kill it from there02:51
jawshoewahwinblowz02:52
kaosPlease, need some help.....02:52
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StyXmanhi all. how can i disable NetworkManager?02:52
sudharshkaos: yes02:52
kemikNg:  oh.. i see :)02:52
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kaossudharsh: how do I do it?02:52
jawshoewahoh my I sure do have a lot of them running!02:52
sobersabre!javadebs ?02:52
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy02:52
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sobersabrehow do I see them ?02:53
WarpedShadowIs there a way of installing an application when using the lvie CD?02:53
sudharshkaos..mayb i mssed somethin....whats ur problem? :02:53
naliothsobersabre: you just called them, read what ubotu wrote02:53
naliothWarpedShadow: of course, you can do anything you like02:53
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WarpedShadowmaybe I should have added, easily02:53
naliothbrenner: howdy02:53
sobersabre!javadebs02:53
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy02:53
sobersabre(question mark messed it... )02:54
naliothWarpedShadow: use synaptic or apt-get, it works like a installed ubuntu02:54
brennernalioth: hello02:54
WarpedShadownalioth: okay.02:54
lowman62jawshoewah: that is why it is not working :P02:54
jawshoewahbatabing02:54
kaossudharsh: cant get wireless to work on my laptop, works on some ruters but not others. I think its because of IPv6.02:55
jawshoewahi had about twelve of each running no wonder02:55
lowman62jawshoewah: working now?02:55
jawshoewahyes02:55
kaosAnyone else here to help?02:55
kemikNg:  thx02:55
lowman62coolies02:55
lowman62:)02:55
jawshoewah:)))))02:55
kaossudharsh just quit....02:55
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jawshoewahthats my triple chin smile02:55
ErMenGoLhey guys!!02:55
lowman62jawshoewah: now rock on dude..lol :P02:55
jawshoewahlol here comes my 8am metal!!!!!!!!02:56
kaosanyone......???02:56
jawshoewahsee you later lowman02:56
misiekyeah i ask the same question02:56
lowman62jawshoewah: laters :)02:57
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lowman62for the folks having trouble with their wireless .. here http://flacknews.blogspot.com/2005/11/use-ndiswrapper-to-setup-wireless-in.html02:58
kaoschecking......02:59
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definityhello03:00
lowman62hello03:00
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definityi have found a nice wireless card but im not sure if it is compatible with ubuntu shall i show you the link?03:01
naliothubotu: tell definity about wireless03:02
naliothdefinity: look to your private messages and have a look for yourself03:02
lowman62nalioth: that one must get asked at least a gazillion times a day in here LOL03:02
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naliothlowman62: we have a smart bot to help us03:03
yew_any body can tell me how to change mount point of hard disk?03:03
nalioth!botsnack03:03
ubotu:)03:03
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lowman62lol03:03
Ngnothing about bloot is smart ;)03:03
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UncleDOn bootup I get FAILURE for synchornizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org (failed to resolve name) - how can I fix or remove this (it holds bootup for almost 2 min)03:04
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dodohello~03:04
naliothubotu: tell UncleD about bum03:04
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UncleDthx03:04
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CanYouHelpMePlz!bum03:05
ubotuit has been said that bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html03:05
naliothubotu: tell CanYouHelpMePlz about msg the bot03:06
Pygican anybody send me scanModem.gz file? thanks03:06
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naliothPygi: can you be a bit more specific ? or should i 'touch' one into existence for you :P03:06
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lowman62LOL03:07
definityi had a look at that link but the wireless card is not there would it still work in linux?03:07
IG0Rim telneting a server...how can i control its replies on a script?03:07
Pyginalioth: I am currently working at tranfering someone from win to ubuntu :P but he needs modem :P03:07
dodoscim can`t install ! help~03:07
brennernalioth: play nice03:07
naliothdefinity: post the URL in here please03:07
lowman62definity: try here http://flacknews.blogspot.com/2005/11/use-ndiswrapper-to-setup-wireless-in.html03:07
definityhttp://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwu/reliawave-rwu-300mw-atheros-802.11a-b-g-cardbus.html03:07
naliothlowman62: definity might not need ndiswrapper, there are quite a few wireless chips that work ootb03:08
naliothdefinity: yes it will work03:08
lowman62802.11 yes it will work] 03:08
Pygithanks nalioth, I just found it :P03:08
definitywould i ahve to install the drivers manualy then?03:09
misiekja03:09
CosmoDadare there any ubuntu-specific mailing lists, especially security-related ones?03:09
lowman62definity: it should install no problem in ubuntu without the driver03:09
dodo?03:09
naliothdefinity: you probably won't have to install anything03:10
definity:) thanks guys03:10
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naliothCosmoDad: on wiki.ubuntu.com there is a link to all the mailing lists03:10
lowman62yw03:10
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CosmoDadnalioth: didn't know, I'll take a look03:11
gnomefreakgood morning03:11
CosmoDadnalioth: thx03:11
brennerPygi: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/scanModem.gz03:11
lowman62gnomefreak: hey how are ya?03:11
gnomefreaklowman62, good and you?03:11
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lowman62gnomefreak: i'm feelin froggy03:11
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BigKahunareccomendation for ebook (chm) reader?03:12
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lowman62BigKahuna: CHM Viewer03:12
naliothBigKahuna: kchm03:13
BigKahunathanks.03:13
misiekSo my question again: During install when i create a user and a passwrd it will ask for another one and then for another and so on. I can go back to the main menu and skip user creation but then i get errors on logon.03:13
misiekmaybe now can someone help me please?03:13
Pygibreener: that package is empty :P03:13
naliothmisiek: it should only ask once. one is all you need03:14
Pygibreener: i found it, no worries03:14
gnomefreakmisiek, during install you have to make 1 user and one password03:14
brennerPygi: it was?03:14
misieknalioth: i know, but it asks on and on03:14
brennerPygi: weird.  isn't that the official site?03:14
misiekthats the *PROBLEM*03:14
naliothmisiek: you should have the option to continue w/o adding more users03:14
Pygibreener: it is :P03:14
misieki use simple name and password03:14
UncleDnalioth: I installed bum, and I go to remove ntpdate from startup and it says, "Cannot remove ntpdate from rcS.d symbolic links, this is for deep level administration only"03:14
lowman62misiek; continue03:15
misieki just press continue after typing the pass03:15
lowman62yes03:15
naliothUncleD: may i suggest you utilize your superuser priveleges with care03:15
misiekand it goes to "enter the full user name"03:15
Delgul_at_workQuestion: under breezy I have a greyed-out recent documents button when the home drive is mounted under nfs... Anyone any idea?03:15
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karlwrkif I'm not using any lvm disks, why would I want evms?03:16
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misieknalioth: i assume the full user name can contain spaces?03:17
naliothmisiek: yes, it can03:17
misiekso what happens?03:17
misiekhow do i break the chain?03:17
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naliothmisiek: hit 'esc' and select the next option03:17
misiekit will lead me to the menu right?03:18
naliothmisiek: correct03:18
misieki did so03:18
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misieki couldnt login after install03:18
misiekcould not find the user or sth03:19
Ngdid you say you have spaces in the username?03:19
Ngor just the full name?03:19
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misiekno  not in the username. in the full name of user. my name03:19
Ngah ok, nm then03:19
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dooglusmisiek: usernames shouldn't be longer than 8 letters really.  what name are you using?03:19
misiekmisiek =P03:19
naliothdooglus: not the user name, the full name of user03:20
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dooglusnalioth: the full name can be as long as you like, within reason03:20
naliothmisiek: i've just gotten off a long long shift at work, so am not much help right now03:20
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naliothdooglus: yes i was explaining to misiek. misiek is stuck at an endless adduser section of the install03:20
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misiekhmm okey. maybe get some sleep and someone else can help me03:21
nalioth_zZzmisiek: there are plenty of folks here03:21
dooglusnalioth: right.  i was wondering if it's because the username he specified is illegal - with spaces, or "=P"s or somesuch03:21
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nalioth_zZzdooglus: you'd have to ask misiek03:21
dooglusnalioth_zZz: I did :)03:21
misiekhehe no  no my user name is misiek03:21
gnomefreakdooglus, that could be why it keeps asking him03:22
gnomefreaklol03:22
nalioth_zZzmisiek: not your user name, your "full name of user"03:22
misiekthe =P is for it being my nick here as well.03:22
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misiekah , my full name of user is Michal Pomorski thats my name03:22
dooglusmisiek: what are you typing for your full name?  does it have any 'funny' characters in it?03:22
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gnomefreakmisiek, they mean the full name like mike sanford03:22
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caugierhi03:23
lowman62lo03:23
misiekno no funny characters and the installer is not complaining about anything03:23
misiekjust goes on03:23
dooglusmisiek: is this the basic install, or did you go for 'expert mode' or something?03:23
lowman62misiek: no option to continue?03:23
caugieris there some particular place to ask questions about the ubuntu livecd? (i need to change the kernel, and i'have some problems)03:23
misiekno just basic03:23
misiekmaybe i should try expert03:23
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lowman62misiek: did you select to set partitions yourself?03:24
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misiekyes03:24
s_spiff{AWAY}hey can some one tell me where i can pick up xmms skins?03:24
lowman62misiek: try reinstalling and let ubuntu setup partitions that is probably why03:25
dooglusmisiek: you can skip user creation and create a user for yourself afterwards03:25
misieki have windows installed and i set a 3.5G partition for root and 4 gb for home03:25
misiekas well as 300something for swap03:25
gnomefreak300 what for swap?03:25
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dooglusgnomefreak: it doesn't matter in this case, right?03:25
dooglusgnomefreak: the installer isn't wanting to swap03:26
misiekit is in the end of the disk but there seems to be no problem with sectors too far away from the beginnig of the disk03:26
gnomefreakdooglus, no but just wondering 300 gigs for swap :(03:26
misiek300mb of course03:26
gnomefreakoh good  :( sorry ive seen people do some odd things03:26
misiekdooglus: okey how do i do it03:26
lowman62misiek: it gives you no way to just continue?03:26
brenners_spiff{AWAY}: that's googable.  look out for winamp classic skins as well03:26
misiektcreate user afterwards?03:27
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misieklowman: i can skip back to menu but i end up with no user03:27
lowman62misiek: try creating user after install03:27
s_spiff{AWAY}brenner, can i use winamp on linux?03:27
misiekhow?03:28
misieki cant login03:28
lowman62use recovery at grub login03:28
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brenners_spiff{AWAY}: not under some emulation i'd assume03:28
misiekokey ill try that03:28
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lowman62misiek: let me know03:28
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misieki have another problem03:29
misiekx refuses to start03:29
misiekhehe03:29
misiekno screen03:29
misieklooks like bad driver03:29
brenners_spiff{AWAY}: *not *without* some emulation03:29
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misieki have ati radeon03:29
lowman62misiek: oh man! you got you some troubles...what driver?03:29
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s_spiff{AWAY}umm ok..03:29
misiektried vesa and ati03:29
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misieki had that before when i was installing debian03:30
s_spiff{AWAY} so is there some other better player? I didnt like rythm box..or xmms03:30
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lowman62misiek: did you resolve it in debian?03:30
godzzoHi!03:30
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misieki mean the no screen. i chose the wron driver then03:30
misiekyeah03:30
brennerubotu: tell s_spiff{AWAY} about players03:30
misiekbut now its on a different machine03:31
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lowman62misiek: just use the same resolve in ubuntu03:31
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misiekknopix runs on ati i think03:31
jamie_The gst-engine claims it cannot play MP3 files.03:31
jamie_You may want to choose a different engine from the Configure Dialog, or examine the installation of the multimedia-framework that the current engine uses.03:31
enkravHello, I messed up the sound configuration with gnome-volume-control and now my microphone won't record any more. How can I reset all the sound settings?03:31
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jamie_^ Getting this when trying to play mp3's03:31
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yew_help-where can i get linux boot disk??03:31
jorgpwhy would I get a root@spock:/etc# [4361483.167000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set03:31
phanterhello,how can I mount an ftp server?03:31
jorgp2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0)03:31
lowman62enkrav: alsa-mixer at console03:31
godzzoI would like to use a mirroring file system (across network). Which filesystem can mirror file operation accross network? (importan the realtime, rsync mode is not good).03:32
jorgpwhen I shift-pageup in a console?03:32
brennerjamie_: using what app?03:32
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jamie_brenner,  that error is in amarok, however rhythmbox will not work either03:32
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brennerubotu: tell jamie_ about restricted03:32
brennerjamie_: rhythmboc requires a codec.  i'm guessing amarok does too03:33
s_spiff{AWAY}brenner, which one would you say it the 'best'?03:33
s_spiff{AWAY} as in ...ur suggestion?03:33
lowman62jamie_: I had that problem with Amarok...I selected xmms applied then it allowed me to change the configuration03:33
butcherbirdjorgp: try turn on or off numlock.03:33
brenners_spiff{AWAY}: i'm happy with bmp.  but it's almost identical to xmms, so you probably won't like it03:33
jamie_thank  you i am checking this out03:34
doogluswould someone running an up-to-date dapper please tell me what they see in /usr/X11R6/03:34
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s_spiff{AWAY} umm ok..03:34
s_spiff{AWAY} will check it out..03:34
godzzoKnown anybody a mirroring filesystem (accross network & realtime)?03:34
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enkravis there any advantage of using alsa-mixer instead of gnome-volume-control?03:35
CosmoDadgodzzo: raid?03:35
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czrgodzzo, what about network block device and raid1?03:35
s_spiff{AWAY}bmp uses winamp skins! cool!03:35
brennerenkrav: gvc is just a frontend afaik03:35
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brenners_spiff{AWAY}: winamp *classic* skins.  so does xmms03:36
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CosmoDadenkrav: I could imagine that gnome-volume-control is independent of the underlying sound architecture while alsamixer is specific to alsa03:36
phreak97how do i install a .deb package?03:36
jorgpbutcherbird: tried that, same thing03:36
_jason!deb03:36
ubotuTo install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb03:36
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phreak97cool thanks03:36
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butcherbirdjorgp: us keyboard? maybe keymapping is messed up03:37
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jorgpbutcherbird: yes03:37
caugieris there some particular place to ask questions about the ubuntu livecd? (i need to change the kernel, and i'have some problems)03:37
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mojo_can some1 send me the /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so ? I messed around with my system and i lost that file03:38
yeanhoo!deb03:38
ubotuTo install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb03:38
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yeanhoo!deb --purge03:38
ubotuyeanhoo: I haven't a clue03:38
yeanhoook03:38
yeanhoo:-)03:38
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jorgpbutcherbird: it just started a few mins ago, now up and down arrows not working03:39
jorgpusing breezy03:39
mojo_some1 pls03:39
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mojo_pls pls03:39
mojo_some1 send me the file pls03:39
yatesyshut up03:39
mojo_T_T03:39
marius_uhm, what does it mean that a file is prompted?03:39
JoeBlowkameron, do u think quake 2 wouldnt load for me because of my driver?03:39
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kameronJoeBlow, very likely03:40
butcherbirdjorgp: that just in gnome or if you alt-ctrl-f2 to console too?03:40
kameronJoeBlow, but there's also a million other reasons perhaps it wouldn't launch. i'm very new to wine though. just started with it last night.03:40
JoeBlowkameron, the wierd thing was, after i installed it,i clicked run, and it ran fine, and then i closed it and clicked the icon it made, and it just opened the quake 2 window and froze and i couldnt even close it03:40
godzzoCosmoDad, raid accross to server?03:40
kameronJoeBlow, ah, that's nuts man. try #winehq03:40
marius_uhm, what does it mean that a file is prompted?03:40
JoeBlowkameron, oh that was native install03:40
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JoeBlowkameron, no wine at all03:40
kameronJoeBlow, cedega?03:41
JoeBlowkameron, runs faster if u can do it without03:41
CosmoDadgodzzo: you'd need some sort of networking above the filesystem level, indeed03:41
kameronoh, native, gotcha JoeBlow03:41
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CosmoDadgodzzo: like nfs03:41
kameronJoeBlow, but most game makers don't make native installs03:41
JoeBlowkameron, yep03:41
brennermarius_: what's the exact wording?03:41
JoeBlowkameron, but if u can use it, its pretty cool03:41
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NgCosmoDad: that's pretty ghetto, there are specialist distributed filesystems available ;)03:41
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godzzoczr, what is network block device?03:42
marius_It just say; if file2 exist, the user is prompted before it is overwritten03:42
czrgodzzo, what is google :-)03:42
godzzoczr, okok :)03:42
brennermarius_:  prompted: asked for action03:43
CosmoDadNg: indeed, my knowledge about distributed filesystems is pretty ghetto, I was only guessing :)03:43
czrgodzzo, also look for enhanced network block device03:43
Nggodzzo: you are looking for a distributed filesystem. while you are at google, ask it about ones available for linux03:43
czrmirrored filesystem is not the same as a distributed filesystem normally03:43
NgCosmoDad: hehe, to be fair the few that do exist aren't that great. It's an enormously tricky problem to solve03:43
CosmoDadgodzzo: dump what I said, listen to the others!03:43
marius_So, ite will ask "do you want to overwritte" before the computer overwritte?03:43
czrNg, GFS and lustre are quite ok03:43
czrAFS was ok at one time, but it's pita to use nowadays03:44
Ngczr: for varying values of "quite" that go from "barely" to "not at all" ;)03:44
brennermarius_: exactly03:44
stark-johanto install a new font I just have to dump it in /usr/share/fonts/ right?03:44
czrng, sure. but as you said, it is a difficult problem to solve :-)03:44
Nghehe03:44
marius_Okey, thanks for your help :)03:44
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JoeBlowwhats the command to run rm, is it sh?03:44
kameronJoeBlow, to run the rm command? what?03:44
mwestark-johan: what kind of font?03:44
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CosmoDadJoeBlow: the command to run rm is -- rm :)03:44
JoeBlowkameron, oops, i mean ,run03:45
JoeBlowkameron, oops, i mean .run03:45
phreak97what's --prefix /usr ?03:45
mwestark-johan: ttf fonts should go to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/03:45
czr-- rm?03:45
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butcherbirdJoeBlow: sh filename.sh?03:45
godzzothanks03:45
NgJoeBlow: yes, sh ./foo.run03:45
stark-johanmwe > a ttf. ok. thanks03:45
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phreak97and how do i uninstall an installed .deb package?03:45
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CosmoDadphreak97: dpkg -r03:45
jamieWhen I open synaptic I get this (along with all the other repositories listed) However I am getting it on both of my computers, and it was fine yesterday. I am unable to apt-get anything either03:45
mwephreak97: also learn to use the "man" command please03:46
bigGrimhow can I enable the sshd?03:46
CosmoDadphreak97: without the version and extension on the package name03:46
jamieW: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:46
NgbigGrim: install the "ssh" package03:46
JoeBlowkameron, ok reinstalling quake 203:46
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gnomefreakjamie, put a # infront of the cdrom repo03:46
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JoeBlowkameron, did u look for a half life 2 native install?03:46
kameronJoeBlow, no, i don't think it exists03:46
jamiegnomefreak,  ok, but where03:46
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JoeBlowkameron, yea i doubt it, im lucky, i play mostly id games, and u always get them with id games03:47
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JoeBlowkameron, gotta get me another quake 3 key03:47
premhi all03:47
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kameronJoeBlow, i don't really play games other than CS:S.. and a little starcraft03:47
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JoeBlowkameron, ill play it with u if u can figure t out03:47
gnomefreakjamie, in term type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and when open paste your sources list to pastebin and i will look at it03:47
doogluswould someone running an up-to-date dapper please tell me what they see in /usr/X11R6/03:47
kameronJoeBlow, yeah, i'll keep you updated03:48
JoeBlowkameron, where do u live?03:48
premhas anybody tried helpExplorer ( a .chm and .hlp viewer for linux) on ubuntu-dapper-amd64 ( i know about kchmviewer and xchm/gnochm but still ...)03:48
gib8hi my xmms crashed and now blocking the soundcard device, knows someone how i can get this blocking away?03:48
kill9Hi guys, I know this isnt specifically ubuntu related, but could anyone help  me with DNS?03:48
naliothJoeBlow: join us in #ubuntu-offtopic please03:48
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jamiegnomefreak, ok 1 sec03:48
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_jasongib8, try: killall xmms03:48
brennergib8: try 'killall esd'03:49
azatothi would like to create an ext3 filesystem on a existing partition. when i run "mkfs.ext3 /dev/drbd0" i get the error: "/dev/drbd0 is apparently in use by the system". anyone knows what is wrong?03:49
gib8_jason, i did killall xmms, no xmms is runing03:49
gib8brenner, i try03:49
naliothazatoth: run it from a liveCD03:49
gib8brenner, it was the esd03:49
gib8brenner, thx :)03:49
brennernp03:49
premazatoth, type df(or mount) and see if /dev/drbd0 is mounted03:49
jamiegnomefreak, pastebin?03:49
gnomefreak!pastebin03:50
ubotuI heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org03:50
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azatothprem: no, it isn't mounted.03:50
azatothnalioth: isn't there an easier way?03:50
naliothazatoth: obviously it is mounted, or you wouldnt get that msg03:51
jamiegnomefreak,  sent to pastebin03:51
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gnomefreakjamie, can i have the link please03:51
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gnomefreaknm03:51
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gnomefreaki have it03:51
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aggressorHEY , WHERE I CAN CHANGE DESKTOP THEMES03:51
azatothnalioth: i guess thats because of drdb. isn't there a way to force it? i have already tried "-F".03:51
jamiehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/683903:51
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s_spiff{AWAY}www.gnome-look.org03:52
gnomefreakjamie, you see the first repo?03:52
phreak97aggressor, i was wondering that myself03:52
Ngaggressor: no need to shout ;)   System->Preferences->Themes03:52
jamieneed # i know03:52
jamielol tks, is that all?03:52
aggressoroo tyu03:52
gnomefreakjust put the # infront of the word deb in that one03:52
s_spiff{AWAY}aggressor, u can find them at www.gnome-look.org03:52
naliothazatoth: if you've tried force and it didnt work. you will either need to try other methods03:52
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aggressorty03:52
gnomefreakyes jamie that is it03:52
s_spiff{AWAY}np03:53
jamiegnomefreak,  thank you.03:53
gnomefreakjamie save close run sudo apt-get update03:53
jamiegnome ok03:53
azatothnalioth: okay, thank you very much. i will try to stop drbd and then try it again. otherwise i will use a live cd.03:53
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gnomefreakbrb i wanna try something03:53
marius_How do I logg into root with Ubuntu?03:54
AIVwhat is the best newsreader for ubuntu?03:54
NgAIV: pan is pretty goo03:54
Ngd03:54
premAIV, pan03:54
naliothmarius_: best that you do not. use 'sudo'03:54
naliothubotu: tell marius_ about root03:54
bigGrimhow do i force a... apt-get install ssh 2 source from inernet03:54
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naliothbigGrim: in a console, type "sudo apt-get source ssh"03:55
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gnomefreakjamie, can i ask where you got that last repo from?03:55
marius_Nalioth: is uboto a kind of bot? since he sounds retarded :P03:56
naliothubotu: tell marius_ about yourself03:56
AIVok, I installed pan03:56
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AIVbut I can only invoke it from the terminal03:56
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naliothAIV: it should be in your internet menu03:56
doogluswould someone running an up-to-date dapper please tell me what they see in /usr/X11R6/03:57
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gnomefreaksorry dooglus i dumped dapper for a lil while :(03:57
Seveasdooglus, hopefully VERY little :)03:58
CanYouHelpMePlzcan somone help me with a question? i see alot of people have their running windows show up in a kind of bar, like the one in this picture i was wondering how i would do that ? http://mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/20xfce4.jpg03:58
dooglusSeveas: why do you say that?03:59
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Seveasdooglus, /usr/X11R6 is deprecated03:59
butcherbirdCanYouHelpMePlz: you using gnome or xfce?03:59
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CanYouHelpMePlzbutcherbird: gnome03:59
hmrochahello03:59
gnomefreakCanYouHelpMePlz, that is xfce desktop03:59
hmrochais it safe to upgrade to dapper now?03:59
dooglusSeveas: what's the correct ProjectRoot for xorg then?03:59
gnomefreakhmrocha, no04:00
CanYouHelpMePlzgnomefreak: is their a way to have the bottom be the same? like with icons instead of full bars for running programs04:00
gnomefreaksafe =april 2004:00
AIVnalioth, doesn't show up in there04:00
TTilusCanYouHelpMePlz: do you mean the button bar at to or the workspace bar at "doc" at the bottom04:00
Seveasdooglus, you should not use the imake build system04:00
hmrochagnomefreak, ok, thanks04:00
AIVnalioth, could it be because I used apt-get to get it?04:00
gnomefreakCanYouHelpMePlz, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop04:00
Seveasxorg 7 uses an autotoolized build system04:00
thegladiator!xubuntu04:00
ubotuI guess xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu04:00
butcherbirdCanYouHelpMePlz: i much prefer xfce lately04:00
CanYouHelpMePlzgnomefreak: will i lose everything i have done so far?04:00
naliothAIV: in a console, type04:00
gnomefreakCanYouHelpMePlz, no04:00
dooglusSeveas: imake reckons that the X stuff is in /usr/X11R6, and it isn't04:00
naliothAIV: type "killall gnome-panel"04:01
thegladiatorxfce's nxt release is looking good04:01
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thegladiatorhow many of you guys except gnomefreak :) run kde ?04:01
gnomefreakme04:01
thegladiatorjust for stats purpose , on ubuntu i.e04:01
s_spiff{AWAY}i do04:01
butcherbirdCanYouHelpMePlz: after install alt-ctrl-backspace and click sessions at login screen change to xfce and login04:01
gnomefreakthegladiator, i have a bunch of desktops04:01
s_spiff{AWAY} i have both gnome and kde04:01
s_spiff{AWAY} bunch? gnomefreak ?04:01
thegladiatorah and which do you prefer lately ?04:01
AIVnalioth, that did it04:01
gnomefreakbunch04:01
s_spiff{AWAY}i think GNOME's better..04:02
TauReXquestion: I have a server install. What do I need to apt-get in order to display GUI apps on my desktop. I installed VMWare player, but it's GUI-only :(04:02
thegladiatori have almost stlled for kde atm04:02
gnomefreakgnome kde xfce enlightenment and blackbox04:02
s_spiff{AWAY} there are other desktops other than KDE and GNOME?04:02
thegladiatorah04:02
AIVnalioth, so killall gnome-panel rebuild the menus or something like that?04:02
s_spiff{AWAY}wow!04:02
CanYouHelpMePlzi don't want to start a war... but xfce is better then gnome or..?04:02
thegladiatorso we have many ubuntu user running kde out here04:02
s_spiff{AWAY}which one's the best gnomefreak ?04:02
thegladiatorno flames please04:02
gnomefreaks_spiff{AWAY}, there are like 15-20 lol04:02
Ngyou can't ask which desktop is the best04:02
Seveasdooglus, that's why you should not use the imake build system :)04:02
Ngit's like asking which fruit is the best04:02
Ngthe answer is: whichever you like most :)04:02
CanYouHelpMePlzthats easy.04:02
CanYouHelpMePlzoranges.04:03
dooglusSeveas: but what if the program I'm trying to install uses it?04:03
gib8Ng, Bananas ;)04:03
TTilusCanYouHelpMePlz: NO, APPLES!04:03
s_spiff{AWAY}:P sorry noob to linux..04:03
thegladiatorXFCE is good on memory , GNOME /KDE good on applications04:03
s_spiff{AWAY} so didnt know04:03
premanybody want to try HelpExplorer www.kamasoftware.com04:03
CanYouHelpMePlzTTilus: NO GRAPES.04:03
Ngno don't start a fruit war, accept the greater truth in my statements ;p04:03
Seveasdooglus, then the program is broken and should be fixed :)04:03
thegladiatorapple is the best fruit accoring to steve jobs :)04:03
Seveasdooglus, what is it?04:03
dooglusSeveas: GNU Emacs04:03
gnomefreaki like xfce and gnome the most but i like some of kdes apps blackbox iu try not to use very often04:03
Seveasdooglus, apt-get install emacs2104:04
dooglusSeveas: it's too old04:04
CanYouHelpMePlzi can't stand kde.04:04
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dooglusSeveas: I'm looking for the current CVS version04:04
Seveasdooglus, apt-get source emacs2104:04
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Seveasand use the debian/ dir inside it on the new tarball04:04
dooglusSeveas: that's the same age as the binary.04:04
Seveasdooglus, I know, but the debian/ dir should be usable :)04:04
Seveas!info emacs21 dapper04:05
ubotuemacs21: (The GNU Emacs editor), section editors, is optional. Version: 21.4a-3 (dapper), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 5900 kB04:05
Seveas!info emacs2104:05
shirishhi guys04:05
ubotuemacs21: (The GNU Emacs editor), section editors, is optional. Version: 21.4a-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 5908 kB04:05
Seveas!info emacs22 dapper04:05
s_spiffhi shrisih04:05
dooglusSeveas: why do the repositories still have imake in them when it doesn't work?04:05
s_spiff finally good to see a few indian people around here.04:05
shirishthanx04:05
s_spiffshirish* [ sorry, mistype ] 04:05
thegladiatorwhose indian s_pif ?04:05
Seveasdooglus, bugwarts combatability04:05
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s_spiff i am04:05
thegladiatorah bloddy indians :)04:05
dooglusSeveas: what does that mean?04:05
thegladiatori myself am one :)04:06
s_spiffhaha...04:06
s_spiff i didn't know..04:06
shirisho.k. cool04:06
C-O-L-Tdo you know a world atlas for linux? it is necessary for my studies04:06
thegladiatorhe he:)04:06
Ubuntuhi04:06
Ubuntufrom where can I download language support?04:06
Seveasdooglus, backwarts compatibility that should (and will) be removed04:06
thegladiatorhi ubuntu . you are here ?!04:06
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s_spiff ubuntu... try changing u nick..04:06
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mweC-O-L-T: is there any?04:06
UbuntuI mean Arabic language04:06
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SeveasUbuntu, system -> admin -> language selector04:06
Ubuntu<s_spiff> ok04:06
TTilusUbuntu: download?  (you did not select it during installation?)04:06
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thegladiatorC-O-L-T, what heppened with the otehr program ?04:06
shirishI posted a query about 2 days back http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114008 but didn't get any answers. Can anybody help here.04:06
CanYouHelpMePlzheh i don't like xfce, i hought i would.04:07
thegladiatorand google earth is not enuf ?04:07
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SeveasTTilus, the installer + arabic == no-go04:07
TTilusMankdim: just go and switch like Seveas told04:07
TTilusSeveas: ah, not supported yet04:07
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shirishTrying to make a custom repositery04:07
TTilusSeveas: i thought it was...04:07
C-O-L-Tthegladiator: I can not install it04:07
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ydramacologichello ubuntu gamers04:07
karlwrkgoogle is never enough04:07
thegladiator:(not even google earth ?04:07
karlwrkit's not even remotely standards compliant04:07
karlwrkand try adding your own imagery04:08
shirishthat's an interesting statement karlwrk, what standards are u talking about?04:08
thegladiatorshirish, it didnt do auton install ?04:08
Mankdimwhen I chose arabic fron list that's make 80% from list arabic04:08
C-O-L-Tthegladiator: how the hell can I run google earth on linux04:08
Mankdimbut I want to use Arabic font04:08
thegladiatorthats weird , did it get halted in between ?04:08
SeveasC-O-L-T, vmware + windows04:08
s_spiffhehe..nice one C-O-L-T04:09
mweshirish: I don't understand what you're trying to achieve04:09
thegladiatormwe, seemingly install xubuntu ?04:09
s_spiffvmware is not free right?04:09
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Ngcorrect04:09
thegladiatormwe, why do you need -d ?04:09
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s_spiff as in i need to pay something for  a registered non-troal version right?04:09
gnomefreakgoogle-earth is not made for linux atleast not yet04:09
butcherbirds_spiff: vmplayer is not free but its free04:09
NgI doubt google earth would even run very well in vmware04:09
Ngit's very 3d intensive04:09
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s_spiffhuh?04:09
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s_spiffvmware? vmplayer?04:10
s_spiffsame?04:10
gnomefreakits a damn ram hog too04:10
thegladiatorno spiff04:10
shirishhi gladiator, what I'm trying to do is use the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptMoveHowto which explains how to make a CD  which can be used to install stuff later on. Something like Mandriva CD2. xubuntu-desktop is an example which they 've used.04:10
gnomefreakno04:10
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s_spiff! vmware04:10
mweshirish: you've been doing apt-get -d xubuntu desktop for 3 days?04:10
Ngit has been suggested that google are porting earth to linux04:10
thegladiatorshirish, ah got you04:10
Ngbut who knows04:10
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karlwrkshirish: all of the OGC standards, that the rest of the geo community uses04:10
Ngthey tend not to make much noise about these things until they are done04:10
karlwrkeven the terraserver is ogc compliant04:10
thegladiatorshirish, did you see the deb files ?04:10
s_spiffshirish...04:10
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s_spiff ur post.. what is it exactly about?04:11
Ngthere is a similar tool from NASA though, called Worldwind that does have a basic linux clone04:11
MankdimI use live cd, but when I want to download arabic language support I can't, because my modem is not work with ubuntu !04:11
gnomefreakng i hope it makes better use of resorces than :(04:11
s_spiffon the forums?04:11
Nggnomefreak: yeah04:11
northieI'd like a hotkey for switching keyboard layouts. Any thoughts?04:11
mweshirish: you're completely unclear about what you want. probably that's why you don't get any respons04:11
thegladiatorshirish, did you get the deb files atleast ?04:11
s_spiffhe must have...04:11
shirishyup can see the deb files at /var/apt/archives04:11
s_spiff cuz he spent like 3 hours downloading them..and has already seen the .deb files..as his post says04:11
C-O-L-TNg: what is that I need for my ubuntu, for my studies pls04:11
s_spiffyeah..04:11
CanYouHelpMePlzwhen i want to go back to the way my pc was using gnome, i just select GNOME using session right?04:11
thegladiatorshirish, if you have the deb files , burn it into cd . you can use that for future install using !deb04:12
thegladiator!deb04:12
ubotuTo install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb04:12
shirishnot 3 hrs. almost 9 hrs. 500 MB download04:12
gnomefreakCanYouHelpMePlz, yes that will bring you into gnome04:12
s_spiffwhats !deb?04:12
s_spiffgladiator...04:12
Mankdim<s_spiff> I use live cd, but when I want to download arabic language support I can't, because my modem is not work with ubuntu !04:12
s_spiff i just downloaded the update and stuff....04:12
thegladiatordeb is something equivalent to rpm in linux04:12
TTilusCanYouHelpMePlz: you can select your session from login window, yes04:12
s_spiff anyways i can burn them ona  cd? so that when i make a new install of ubuntu..04:12
thegladiatordeb is what apt-get deals with04:12
s_spiff i don't have to downloadf all the stuf f all over agin?04:12
TTilusCanYouHelpMePlz: and gnome will be available there04:12
CanYouHelpMePlzTTilus: ok, i didn't like XFCE at all04:13
thegladiatordeb is like a package meant for debian systems04:13
s_spiffMankdim, when u installed..what did u use as language?04:13
thegladiatorI am not sure when you run apt-get etc where the db files are stoerd though04:13
C-O-L-TNg:??????????????04:13
gnomefreakCanYouHelpMePlz, what was wrong with it?04:13
Mankdim<s_spiff> arabic04:13
s_spiffthen?04:13
TTilusCanYouHelpMePlz: the defaults or did you try to config?04:13
CanYouHelpMePlzgnomefreak: it's just not when i'm use to, and i didn't like the colors etc.04:13
Mankdim<s_spiff> as 80% onlt fron lists04:13
CanYouHelpMePlzTTilus: heh, i just prefer my panels on gnoem04:13
Mankdim<s_spiff> as 80% only fron lists04:13
TTilusCanYouHelpMePlz: colors are easy to fix  ;)04:14
Mankdim<s_spiff> but when I want to use arabic font I can't04:14
shirishwhenever u run apt-get they get stored in /var/apt/archives04:14
gnomefreakCanYouHelpMePlz, xfce is customizable :)) thats what makes linux great04:14
s_spiff thegladiator can i burn all the stuff i downloaded from the synaptget... on to a cd? so that when i make a fresh install of ubuntu..i wont hav to download all the crap again?04:14
CanYouHelpMePlzgnomefreak: i'm sure04:14
TTilusCanYouHelpMePlz: then you are propably best off with gnome04:14
CanYouHelpMePlzTTilus: yea i'm sure04:14
s_spiffumm..wierd..04:14
s_spiffMankdim, why don't u post on the forums?04:14
thegladiatoryes it shoud be possible s_spiff04:14
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shirishI'm trying to follow the steps given in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptMoveHowto04:15
Mankdim<s_spiff> ok I will do04:15
s_spiffummmm...where is the stuff saved?04:15
s_spiffthegladiator,  as in where are the packages saved?04:15
thegladiatorask shirish , he seems to have done it all04:15
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: Ng: told something about Nasa's world wind running on linux. PLs if you know something help me04:15
AIVduring the initial setup of ubuntu, I chose what screen resolutions I would use, and I chose too low, is it too late to change this?04:15
shirishnope stuck middle way04:15
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: I need something like google earth04:15
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s_spiffshirish, did u burn the stuff on to a cd?04:15
thegladiators_spiff, i am a big expert04:15
s_spiff achha.. so u coudn't?04:15
s_spiffhuh?04:16
gnomefreakC-O-L-T, i havent heard of it but goole can only help you04:16
thegladiators_spiff, unless yoru hdd crashes or something , its not needed to burn deb's04:16
gnomefreakgoogle even04:16
shirishnot yet, some little stuff to be understood before going ahead.04:16
thegladiators_spiff, the next version ie dapper will have newer stuff04:16
shirishthe debs are at /var/cache/apt/archives04:16
butcherbirdubotu tell AIV about resolution04:16
s_spiffarre thegladiator , i make mistakes..since me noob..04:16
shirishdapper is 3 months away04:16
brenners_spiff: that's why you should make a seperate partition for /home04:16
s_spiffand when i don't know how to correct it04:17
s_spiff i just make a new fresh install04:17
thegladiators_spiff, and google doesnt crash like windows does , so there is no real need to burn those deb's mayb you can make 3rd party debs and burn04:17
s_spiffi have a whole 80 gb hdd..04:17
thegladiatorsorry linux* not google :)04:17
s_spiff hehe04:17
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: I can not tell you that how many times I have tried to search for it. This is one of the most important programs. Can somebody make a clone or something of google earth04:17
C-O-L-Tor Nasa's world wind04:17
thegladiators_spiff, how many mb's have you downloaded so far ?04:17
gnomefreakC-O-L-T, worldwind is very very similar to celeste04:17
C-O-L-Tor Encarta's Interactive World Atlas04:17
shirishthen use ubuntu live cd & use parted to do any partitioning stuff. Read the man's first04:18
s_spiff something like 640 mb for KDE , another 200+ gb for other various updates and setups04:18
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: I need country maps not space simulating04:18
gnomefreakhttp://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&hl=en&q=worldwind+for+linux&btnG=Google+Search04:18
s_spiff 200+mb04:18
shirishC-O-L-T first do an apt-get update04:18
s_spiff not gb!04:18
AIVubotu, yes please, tell me about resolution04:18
ubotuWish i knew, AIV04:18
gnomefreakC-O-L-T, than worldwind may not be any help to you but look at it04:18
butcherbird!resolution04:18
ubotuI guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:18
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s_spiffubotu, tell AIV about resolution04:18
shirish then do a apt-cache search & 'keyword'04:18
thegladiators_spiff, ok :p... i dont know about deb archiving actually04:18
thegladiatoryes04:18
phreak97someone explain what i type when it says: then use the usual commands:04:19
phreak97 ./configure --prefix /usr04:19
s_spiffAIV check your pm's04:19
s_spiff ok..will check it out.04:19
mwephreak97: that wont work04:19
shirishphreak97 it's a kind of flag/condition that u're giving when u're compiling things from source04:20
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mwephreak97: ./configure --prefix=/usr would though04:20
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C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: I like celestia it is good, but I need a program like google earth or Encarta World Atlas. I have Encarta Worrld Atlas 2000 but I can not run it with wine04:20
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thegladiatorC-O-L-T, ask in #linux !04:20
mweC-O-L-T: I don't think there is such a thing for linux04:20
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thegladiatorC-O-L-T, or #gentoo if you cant find help here04:21
CanYouHelpMePlzeww gentoo04:21
thegladiatorand yes tell them you are on gentoo :)04:21
shirishC-O-L-T perhaps then u could support celestia to become better like whatever u like, file bugs & enjoy04:21
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thegladiatorlol@shirish04:21
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shirishgladiator, who's the big boss around04:21
gnomefreakwait a min guys let me read this04:21
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douglasHow do I switch the default automake version?04:22
lee_hey boys (n gals) how do i...get firestarter to load at startup with gnome...without clicking the save settings tab at logout?04:22
thegladiatorshirish, there are many . just ask once in a while . sure you will get help04:22
theinedouglas, sudo update-alternatives --config automake04:22
gnomefreakC-O-L-T, read this http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2005092802026OSDVNT04:22
s_spiffi think there is a option for that04:22
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Whistlerhello04:22
PuMpErNiCkLehey Whistler04:22
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goki-lee_, AFAIK firestarter will startup with the network device, do you mean the firestarter GUI specifically?04:23
soundrayC-O-L-T, have you tried World Wind in wine?04:23
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Whistlermy friend wants to install ubuntu, but his pc doesnt support boot from cd-rom04:23
gnomefreakww does both stars and ground04:23
naliothubotu: tell Whistler about smartboot04:23
goki-Whistler, is it ancient?04:23
thegladiatorWhistler, thats nto really possible04:23
s_spiffWhistler, did u check out the bio's setup?04:23
s_spiff check if his 1st boot device is CDROM04:23
Whistlerye thats ancient04:23
thegladiatorWhistler, most of the post 95 BIOS supports CD ROM booting04:23
shirishanybody knows how to make custom repositery?04:23
s_spiffthen.. is his cd rom working?04:23
lee_Goki-, well i installed it but the icon that appears in the top right hand corner is no longer there after a reboot04:23
thegladiatoreven Windows cannot be istaled without booting from CD!04:24
s_spiff or is his cd right?04:24
Ngthegladiator: sure it can, you can make boot floppies from a windows cd04:24
s_spiffhehe04:24
soundray!smartboot04:24
ubotusmartboot is, like, totally, If you can't boot from your CD-ROM Drive, go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto04:24
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thegladiatorNg,yes in my opinion thats only theoreticalstuff ...i mean windows was designed to be insta;led from cd04:24
Whistlerok ill tell him to chech again04:25
goki-lee_, firestarter itself should still be running, its just that the GUI for it isn't.04:25
thegladiatorWhistler, check the BIOS , change boot options04:25
butcherbirdWhistler: take a look at smartboot as well04:25
Ngthegladiator: well it's not just theoretical because you can actually do it, so it's real, but i know what you mean04:25
goki-lee_, I'm afraid I don't know how to get the GUI to start with gnome, but it should be the same as for any other app you want to run on gnome startup04:25
thegladiatorNg, yep04:25
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shirishgladiator, its not theorotical I know of many thin clients which run of smart-boot kind of functionality, network-aware04:25
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soundray!tell Whistler about smartboot04:26
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mwegnomefreak: the project you referred to seems to be limited to ms windows like goggle earth :|04:26
thegladiatori see04:26
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lee_ok goki thanks...another question...i noticed on ubuntu (and debian) there is no rc.local file so i cant add commands/scripts to be run at boot up...is there another file i can add to that will do this for me?04:26
soundraylee_, /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh04:26
s_spiffyo what to use to burn cd/DVD?04:26
goki-lee_, If you select the Sessions tool from 'System --> Preferences --> Sessions', you can enable any program to start automatically when you login to your account.04:27
butcherbirds_spiff: k3b is probably the best app04:27
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thegladiators_spiff, k3b wud be perfect04:27
jonohi all04:27
goki-lee_, just found that ^04:27
s_spiffok..04:27
PuMpErNiCkLehe4y jono04:27
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jonowhat is the default cd playing app in dapper?04:27
shirishlee_there is something called BUM boot-up manager that u can download & install & use the same GUI-based.04:27
s_spiffboss..but thats for KDE na?04:27
lee_thanks goki! and soundray04:27
goki-lee_, yes there is, I can't remember where it is :)04:27
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SlatibartQ: ubuntu 5.04 had these nice unoffical addon cd with all these nice missing programms . where can i find an image for 5.1004:27
thegladiators_spiff, no it works in gnome also04:27
butcherbirds_spiff: yes but if you apt-get it it will install necessary stuff. about 50 mb04:27
goki-lee_, ah cool someoen else knew :)04:27
thegladiators_spiff, i was using k3b in my gnome also04:27
s_spiffcrap!!! 50 mb..i hate downloading!04:28
jonohey PuMpErNiCkLe04:28
s_spiffachha chal...installing it right now04:28
s_spiff thank..04:28
thegladiators_spiff, just see in syanptic how much it wud need....first04:28
s_spiff now have to go back to studies04:28
s_spiff about 10.38 mb being downloaded04:28
thegladiatorchal bye04:28
PuMpErNiCkLejono: Same as in Breezy, I think.04:28
s_spiffthe gui..and the lin04:28
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gib8i get a new apt-source and now apt-get update means there is no publickey available? does i need the key to get it worked?04:29
s_spiff thegladiator , feels good when someone says 'chal' bye in these channels04:29
s_spiff cya ppl04:29
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thegladiatoreh he :)04:29
thegladiatorcya04:29
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shirishgladiator, spiff is also indian?04:29
bart_does anybody knows where to get DC++ linux version?04:29
lee_thnks guys04:29
thegladiatorshirish, yep04:29
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naliothbart_: in the repos is a console and gui dc client04:30
nalioth!info dcgui04:30
ubotudcgui: (Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing)), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.80-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 445 kB, Installed size: 1352 kB04:31
naliothbart_: enable the universe repos and grab it with apt-get or synaptic04:31
shirishI'm sure out of 623 people present here there is somebody who can answer my query, the question is who?04:31
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shirishlooking to make a custom cd repositery, cherry-picked packages.04:31
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bhearsumever since i upgraded to dapper i've had a couple paticular things not work. first of all, gaim crashes when i login to an msn account. secondly, xfce4-panel crashes whenever it starts, gives me a glibc error04:32
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TTilusshirish: could be that she isnt listening right now  :)04:32
naliothshirish: what question is that?04:32
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shirishwho is she?04:32
naliothbhearsum: dapper is a development version, it's not meant for use.04:32
PuMpErNiCkLebhearsum: Report the bugs to the ubuntu devs and wait for Dapper to stabilize? :)04:33
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bhearsumi didn't even know dapper was testing, heh.04:33
TTilusshirish: dunno, you just sounded so sure that there _is_ one  :)04:33
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C-O-L-Tthegladiator: there is a program but being a new user in Linux it's too complex for me to install. I have given to one of my friend who is at home in Linux but it was hard to him also. Can you try the program? Would you try to install it under ubuntu cause I think a lot of people would like to use it04:33
butcherbirdbhearsum: you might need to upgrade xfce4 to latest version manually04:33
bhearsumis there a bug tracking system for it?04:33
shirisho.k. bhearsum :- if u're having issues preferably file the bug in bugzilla with whatever symptoms u're gettomg04:33
C-O-L-Tthegladiator: The link is this http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Introduction04:34
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C-O-L-Tthegladiator: at gentoo they told me the same program04:34
C-O-L-Tthegladiator: they said that it is hard to install04:34
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thegladiatorC-O-L-T, i can understand your problem . but i am sorry at the momet , I cant afford to install the program due to some other per-occupations04:34
thegladiatorjust keep asking in and around( dont spam) you's get someone to help04:35
shirishsure, first look at what gaim version is being used, then either at bugzilla.ubuntu.com or bugzilla.gnome whichever is appropriate or both.04:35
ccc_nalioth: hopefully linuxdc++ (i suppose that was what bart_ was asking about) will be added in the repos sometime soon, as it is getting pretty stable and is superior to dcgui/valknut04:35
AIVubotu, thanks for the help with my screen resolution04:35
ubotuAIV: no problem04:35
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AIVI was able to fix it that way04:35
SlatibartQ: ubuntu 5.04 had these nice unoffical addon cd with all these nice missing programms . where can i find an image for 5.10. the computer has only a modem line, so synaptic is not an option04:35
Slatibartuniverse and so on repositories04:36
C-O-L-Tthegladiator: If you know somebody then please tell to him or her, I think that I am not the only person interested in this. I am asking this question for a week but everybody tells me that there is a guide to how to install it. But the guide is nothing.04:36
Slatibartwith 5.04 it was nice04:36
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Slatibartjust entering the cd, and nearly everything was automatic04:36
C-O-L-Tthegladiator: Being a windows user I can not simply install things, you can not tell to a user who it is using windows for 12 years that it is easy to install04:37
C-O-L-Tthegladiator: it is easy to install a deb file04:37
Slatibartwith the guide it's a lot more work04:37
C-O-L-Tthegladiator: but not a java file04:37
thegladiatortrue I understand04:37
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gnomefreakC-O-L-T, sure it is use java debs04:37
pinkisntwellif I don't install gnome and go with xfce, how do I configure networking?04:38
gnomefreakenable multiverse adn install java from there too :)04:38
thegladiatorC-O-L-T, try pasting the exaclt nature in paste bin and then try out04:38
thegladiatorhe has java installed , thats what he said04:38
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: It requires java to install jar files of the program. I installed java from seveas repository but it still does not work04:38
shirishSlatibart : the guy who was supporting the Unofficial 5.04 is sick or something & in-between nobody has shown the initiative to take up the work for everybody.04:38
gib8what happens when i use LVM and have 2 HDs on the first is a part of home and on the second, when one disk is destroyed? can i get to the data of the other disk or r they lost like in some raidmodes?04:38
mika0800Ubuntu Hoary: I need to do "modprobe 3c509" to make my network work. Where should I put that command to run it automatically at every reboot and as early as possible in the boot process ?04:38
gnomefreakC-O-L-T, did you enable it?04:38
thegladiatorC-O-L-T, just for the record , are you able to use other JAVA programs ?04:38
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: I made everything04:39
gnomefreaksudo update-alternatives --config java04:39
C-O-L-Twhat was required04:39
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C-O-L-Tbut I could not04:39
C-O-L-TI gave it to somebody else04:39
bipolarmika0800: edit /etc/modules and add it to the list04:39
gnomefreakC-O-L-T, did you run that commadn?04:39
C-O-L-Tbut he could not install also04:39
Slatibartshirish, that is really bad04:39
C-O-L-TI have run everything in terminal04:39
Slatibartshirish: was really cool work04:39
C-O-L-Tas it asked04:39
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bipolarmika0800: on boot ubuntu will modprobe all the modules listed in that file.04:39
Slatibartshirish: hmm, do you think it would work with the new version still ?04:40
mika0800shirish: Are you telling me that the Hoary (=5.04 ?) is somehow unofficial ???04:40
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=== gnomefreak doesnt know what it asks i havent installed java from deb or from sunjava in a long time
shirishmika0800 u misunderstand me, stalibart was asking me about the Unofficial Add-On 5.04 CD which has some more packages then in the official04:41
shirishall multimedia stuff04:41
mika0800ok04:41
gnomefreakif you go to easysource you can have multimedia repos too04:41
andydavidhello help in postgres04:41
shirishI doubt as lots of things keep on changing04:42
Slatibartshirish: with the bare ubuntu 5.10 you can not even play mp3s ;) really bad04:42
shirishthe kernel has changed so everything04:42
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shirishI know, I know04:42
roderick_what about automatix?04:43
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: just try you or somebody the program, who is at home in linux and make a small wiki to those windows users like me who are using linux http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Introduction04:43
ompaul!automatix04:43
gnomefreakroderick_, dont use it04:43
ubotu[automatix]  messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!04:43
mika0800shirish: The kernel changes in 2.6.11 are exactly what I want to avoid. That's why I installed Hoary (with 2.6.10 kernel) and NOT the latest version.04:43
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gnomefreakC-O-L-T, you want me to install it and write a wiki?04:43
aggressorcan someone help me >?04:43
butcherbirdgnomefreak: get to it!04:44
gnomefreaklol butcherbird04:44
Myrttiubotu: tell aggressor about someone04:44
roderick_whhhhat if i already have automatix installed, you recommend i uninstall it/04:44
aggressori wanna change my theme04:44
Slatibartshirish: any advise how i can get  a similiar cd/collection with reasonable amount of work ? the computer is on a modem line. so it's the package beforehand04:45
shirishmika I was explaining to stalibart about the changes between 5.04 & 5.10, if he has an old kernel then it might work, there is also possibility that things break. The great thing would be if he records it somewhere publicly available04:45
gnomefreakroderick_, yes04:45
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: somebody should do it :))) in order to contribute and help the ubuntu / kubuntu community. I am too new in Linxu to do that. If you don't wan't to do than tell to some developer or I don't know04:45
aggressori dl theme in gmon/look.org04:45
mika0800I want to get rid of Gnome (which was accidentally installed even if I commanded server-expert into the installer) and install IceWm. Should I disable the GUI system first ?04:45
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CanYouHelpMePlzhow do i hide a window in gnome?04:45
CanYouHelpMePlzthen like use a key combo to make it visible.04:46
gnomefreakC-O-L-T, its not something that can be done right away but i will look into it04:46
aggressorkh04:46
gnomefreakwhat kind of file is it?04:46
kemikCanYouHelpMePlz:  minimize the window, then ALT-TAB04:46
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: a few jar files http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Introduction.04:46
mika0800I think that kernel 2.6.11's changes break the Borland Kylix IDE's intgrated debugger. So I wanted to install 2.6.10 kernel... and soon I will install first IceWm instead of Gnome, and then Kylix to test  it.04:46
shirishOne of the things is try to bribe a friend who has a fast connection, install ubuntu on his machine, grab all the debs & just burn them on the CD. I'm stickler for doing things right hence looking for somebody's expertise to make it similar to the 5.04 unofficial CD.04:46
CanYouHelpMePlzkemik: i mean like invisible ..04:46
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: I have to go now, but later I will be here again, and if you have managed something then tell me about it. If you don't wan't to do it, no problem just speak to somebody who can do it04:47
kemikCanYouHelpMePlz:  oi.. donno :)04:47
pinkisntwellif I do a server install will I have internet?04:47
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Slatibartshirish: hmm, it's an approach, but not an easy one ;)04:47
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shirishCanYouHelpMe* : I think what u're looking for is keybindings, look for keybindings stuff on the wiki there is possibility u might get some clues there.04:48
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shirishI know, the other one is simple whenever u have time grab a few packages, burn them on the CD & slowly have a rough cut then once we have the proper know-how turn the CD into an Unoffical CD04:49
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AIVif I'm going to download software that I can't get via apt-get, should I download a tar or an rpm?04:49
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shirisheither with rpm use alien with tar most probably u would need to compile stuff.04:49
jorgp!win32codecs04:50
ubotumethinks win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/04:50
mika0800shirish: you seem to be interested to cretae an unofficial version of Ubuntu.... Do you have any interest in Kylix?04:50
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shirishwhat is this Kylix?04:50
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mika0800about Kylix: http://shop.borland.com/dr/sat4/ec_Main.Entry17C?SID=39696&SP=10023&CID=0&PID=750285&PN=1&V1=750285&CUR=840&DSP=&PGRP=0&ABCODE=&CACHE_ID=004:52
theinemika0800, what does kylix have to do with an unofficial version of Ubuntu?04:52
thegladiator!kylix04:52
ubotuthegladiator: Do they come in packets of five?04:52
thegladiatoryeah they do , why not shut up if dont know ?!:)04:52
mika0800There should be Kylix Open version as well, which is free (No charge) but does not come with source code either (binary only) and has the additional limitation that anything you do with Kylix Open, is forced to be GPL licensed.04:53
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shirishabove my experitse04:53
gnomefreakC-O-L-T, are you here?04:53
theinemika0800, if the source code isn't availabe, it cannot require anybody else to use the GPL as it itself violates it04:54
shirishI like the KISS attitude, Borland is notorious for making things more complex, I don't need more windows, doors are alright04:54
theinemika0800, GPL software must not be available in binary only form04:54
shirish:)04:54
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mika0800Kylix = A nice programming tool, but has some compatibility problems because Borland does not care to provide any updates since 2002. Can be used with kernel 2.6.10, though (so I think and I will test it) and IceWm desktop. Newer versions of KDE or Gnome cause probmlems as well...04:55
Ngkylix is pretty much a linux port of Delphi04:55
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Ngbut as mika0800 says, almost unsupported, so seriously not worth using04:55
Ngyou can't tell your users to use 2.6.10 and an old Gnome ;)04:56
theinemika0800, that does not imply anything as far as kylix being GPL or not is concerned04:56
mika0800Kylix itself is not GPL software. Neither is the Kylix Open -version. But although it itself is not GPL -licensed, it (=Kylix Open) is free of charge, but it's license terms tell that any program you make with Kylix open is bound to be GPL licensed. Ig you want to make non-GPL programs with Kylix, then you need to purchase Kylix.04:56
definitys04:56
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theinemika0800, that's really odd, but ok... I guess I was wrong then04:57
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grundohi all!04:57
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mika0800Ng: exactly. I am a long time Delphi user, so now IO want to use Kylix with Linux. And, with 2.6.10 kernel (or older) and IceWm that seems perfectly possible.04:58
theinemika0800, from where did you get that information?04:58
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grundohwo i can install Icey Tower game on my Ubuntu?04:58
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brian_is their something special i have to ahve to play dvds, i got vlc, but it doesnt seem to work04:59
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jamieWhat is the best way to get mplayer, it is not in synaptics?05:00
DiogoSoitem alguem aqui de mato grosso05:00
grundouse advence options05:00
brian_jamie, it is05:00
brian_jamie, do u have multiverse and universe enabled05:00
mika0800how is it odd? Borland is a commercial company and so they want to make money. But at the same time, they wanted some goodwill among linux usres. So they released Kylix Open, which allows you to create Kylix programs for free, but only as long as you release those programs you make with the free version of Kylix, as GPL licensed. But if you want to make money with those programs, then Borland obviously wants you to purchase Kylix.05:00
shirishmplayer has totem-mplayer as well as something else05:00
jamiebrian_, really? doesn't seam to be05:00
grundoor get libdvdcss05:00
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brian_jamie, i d/l'd it 2 minutes ago05:00
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grundosudo apt-get install libdvdcss205:01
mika0800At least they used to have Kylix Open. Borland has changed their webpages a lot, so finding Kylix open may need some googling to find the correct page now...05:01
jamiehow is it listed i searched mplayer and it is not there05:01
grundo:-)05:01
brian_jamie, how long have u been on linux?05:01
grundoupdate maybe?05:01
jamiedid you have to add a repository?05:01
ompaul!tell DiogoSoi about pr05:01
brian_jamie, no05:01
jamiebrian_, I have been a Gentoo user for years05:01
grundo!mplayer05:01
ubotuI guess mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106105:01
ompaul!tell DiogoSoi about br05:01
jamiebrian_, new to ubuntu05:01
brian_jamie, i just enabled all the ones that come with ubuntu05:02
grundo:-)05:02
brian_can someone do the repositories command, i dunno what it is05:02
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brian_rickard, sup man05:02
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brian_rickard, its JoeBlow05:02
rickardhiho05:02
grundohwo i can install Icey Tower game on my Ubuntu?05:02
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rickard:)05:02
jamiebrian_, so did i amnd it is not there. it has mozilla-mplayer but not regular mplayer05:02
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rickardHow do I make a dhcp release/renew?05:03
shirishjamie do a vi /etc/apt/sources.list & uncomment i.e. take out # in front of deb whatever path is given. Just remember don't uncomment the ones with sources which is there in the path as well as back-ports. Otherwise everything else is fine.05:03
ompaulrickard, the unapproved way is "sudo dhclient"05:03
definitythis is a guess try ifconfig /renew05:03
ompaulrickard, cos I can't remember the other atm05:03
rickardunapproved.. but it works?05:04
ompaulrickard, yeap05:04
brian_jamie, did u go to all the community maintaied ones and make the multiverse?05:04
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mika0800oh, and for those claiming that Kylix is not worth using: do I have much choice? There is FreePascal (FPC) and Lazarus but are they technically comparable to Kylix? Do they have an IDE with integrated debugger with CPU -View capability as well? - I think not.... so for now, I'll just continue to use Kylix anyway, although it needs some tweaking to get it properly running under new distros of Linux...05:04
jamiebrian_,  yes i did05:04
meursaulthi guys - has anyone used gtkpod?05:04
Seveasmika0800, you should simply use a better language...05:05
Seveaspascal/delphi is outdated05:05
jamiebrian_, they are already uncommented, i did that a while ago, then sudo apt-get update, but no mplayer05:05
brian_jamie, one sec, ill check again05:05
yatesykylix is very very buggy05:05
yatesydelphi was cool tho, i did it at college05:05
aggressorON SIIN KEEGI EESTLANE :D >?05:05
brian_jamie, u have to manually add multiverse u know, to each one05:05
jamiebrian_, I added multiverse to the community ones, that is what you mean right?05:06
brian_jamie, yea05:06
mika0800Seveas: only someone who does not know the  language well, can think so. Equally powerful as C++, but a LOT clearer syntax...05:06
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brian_mplayer-386, i see it their05:06
jamiebrian_, that was done but no mplayer. how is it listed in yours, the actual package name?05:06
aggressorcan u help m05:06
Foodcomanmorning05:07
Seveasmika0800, then ehy is the language practically dead? :)05:07
aggressorplease someone help me05:07
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Seveas!tell aggressor about someone05:07
brian_!tell brian_ about someone05:07
aggressorlike, i wanna install theme, but iff i add it05:07
aggressorits costume05:08
aggressor2 i need unpack it ormsth05:08
mika0800on Linux: for commercial reasons. Obviously Borland did not sell enough copies of Kylix. And on MS-Windows: it is not dead. It is very alive there and going on. Now it even can produce .NET apps for those who are interested (on windows)05:08
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brian_jamie, did u select all the boxed on repositories?05:08
Seveasaggressor, art.gnome.org/faq.php05:08
aggressorkk ty05:08
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jamiebrian yes i did05:08
jamiemplayer-386 not there05:08
brian_jamie, do u see about 10 , or like 2 ?05:08
Seveas!info mplayr-38605:09
Seveas!info mplayer-38605:09
ubotumplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3729 kB, Installed size: 8268 kB05:09
Seveasthere...05:09
jamiebrian_, 1105:09
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brian_jamie, and each that says community maintained, u added multiverse to next to universe05:09
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jamiebrian_, yes i did05:10
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shirishjamie try out after doing apt-get update05:10
shirishapt-cache search mplayer what do u get?05:10
brian_jamie, do u have dont download upgradable packages?05:10
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mod^how do I mount NTFS partition (/dev/sda1) with readwrite?05:10
mod^I'm on live-cd05:10
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shirishmod just do a mount -a that should do the trick05:11
soundraymod^, this is now supported.05:11
soundraymod^, this is not supported.05:11
jamieshirish, i did that already05:11
brian_jamie, u should have show disabled software sources, download upgradable packages, and delete old packged checked, and thats ALL05:11
jamiebrian_, nope05:11
mod^but fstab doesn't have the sda partition05:11
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mod^so I think mount -a won't do it05:11
mika0800Oh: and Delphi has much better string handling than C++. String length is limited only by available (virtual) memory and strings can contain also 0x00 -characters. So they are idea to be used as binary buffers also. And, unless you purposefully misuse them, there is no chance of a buffer overflow (which is the primary cause of todays security problems)05:12
brian_jamie, and make sure u save it05:12
brian_i did delphi like 10 years ago lol05:12
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brian_i thought it was cool05:12
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brian_i didn tlike the visual prog for it tho05:12
shirishthen slightly more complex go to the cli & see what parted tells u, read the man of parted it'll list stuff05:12
shirishthen from that make the necessary changes in /etc/fstab & then mount -a05:12
butcherbirdmod^: dont think kernel supports ntfs write05:12
soundraymod^, there are live CDs that attempt to support NTFS read/write, but Ubuntu isn't one of them.05:13
mod^oh, I have a bit old version of knoppix05:13
mod^I'll try that05:13
soundraymod^, it's called Captive IIRC05:13
jamiebrian_, I have it, i am running 686 kernel. but for some reason mplayer-386 does not show, but mplayer-586 showed up05:13
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shirishperhaps u could try gparted.sourceforge.net there's a Live CD there download the iso, burn it, try it I'm not sure but think gparted has got ntfs write05:13
jamiebrian_, i will use that05:13
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brian_jamie, r u sure that will run on your system?05:14
rafaelheyyyyyyyyyyy05:14
soundraymod^, it's called Captive on Knoppix05:14
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mod^ok05:14
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Slatibartwhen i doubleclick on the title of a window, how can i switch behaviour from maximising to max horizontial only ? (gnome)05:14
jamiebrian_, i checked mplayer-686 and it automatically used mplayer-58605:14
mod^I only would need to move Fonts2 folder to "Fonts" folder in c:\windows -directory05:14
brian_jamie, what r u getting mplayer for?05:14
brian_jamie, what r u getting mplayer for05:14
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brian_jamie, vlx and gxine are way better05:14
jamiebrian_, I don't like totem05:14
brian_jamie, vlc and gxine are way better05:14
rafaelhey sombady knows where is the ubuntu  chats in spanish05:15
rafael???05:15
soundray!es05:15
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:15
brian_jamie, get gxine and vlc for video, and beep for mp305:15
butcherbirdjamie: dont listen to him!05:15
brian_butcherbird, ill shoot you!05:15
brian_!shoot duck05:15
ubotubrian_: Do they come in packets of five?05:15
brian_!shoot05:15
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, brian_05:15
jamiei am used to audacious for mp3 I like vlc but i want mplayer05:15
brian_ehh, dont work05:15
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brian_jamie, alright but its been giving me major problems with mp3s05:16
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brian_jamie, alright but its been giving me major problems with dvd05:16
jamiemplayer always worked in gentoo perfectly for me05:16
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brian_jamie, make sure u get the fonts package, i get problems with out the mplyer fonts05:16
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jamiebrian_, just had that problem05:17
CanYouHelpMePlzhow do i remove tar and bz2 from terminal?05:17
jamieis the font package in synaptic?05:17
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brian_jamie, :)05:17
brian_jamie, I know05:17
ompaulbrian you can cheat by ln a correct type of font to what it wants in your home directory05:17
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ompaulbrian_, one you like :)05:18
soundrayCanYouHelpMePlz, 'rm file.bz2'05:18
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jamiebrian, think i got it05:18
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soundrayCanYouHelpMePlz, or 'sudo rm file.bz2' if it's owned by root.05:18
CanYouHelpMePlzsoundray: isn't it like tar xcvz ?05:18
jamie^ wonders why mplayer-fonts is not automatic when adding mplayer?05:18
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soundrayCanYouHelpMePlz, you asked to remove, not open.05:19
brian_ompaul, waa`05:19
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CanYouHelpMePlzsoundray: oh.. lol how do i pen a tar.bz205:19
brian_god ,how do i force quit a program05:19
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soundrayCanYouHelpMePlz, tar jxvf file.tar.bz205:19
yutci sono italiani?05:19
soundray!it05:19
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:19
brian_!es05:20
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:20
jamiebrian_,  I would never use mplayer for mp3 anyway, I use it for the plugin to firefox, and also i use it to play with my tivo05:20
soundraybrian_, god seems to have quit05:20
brian_soundray, damnitt!! Do u know how to force quit?05:20
shirisho.k. guys 5 minutes more then I quit05:21
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LoPMXhi, how can i disable the minimize border (while minimizing window) in gnome?05:21
brian_jamie, i do it all with gxine05:21
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soundraybrian_, man kill05:21
soundraybrian_, man killall05:21
brian_soundray, ....05:21
brian_soundray, seriously05:21
soundraybrian_, or use the killer applet05:21
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s0ciopathman xkill05:21
soundraybrian_, I am serious05:22
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flogistonAnyone who managed to run wc3 trough wine?05:22
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dino_hi to everyone05:23
shirish[OT]  I see these cute messages when people leave how do I enable that in GAIM?05:23
Vernonhello. i'm tryin' to install breezy on a acer travelmate 332t with 64mb ram. system crashes when is probing the ide-cd driver05:23
dino_someone speaking italia?05:23
dino_someone speaking italian?05:23
Vernonwhat can i do?05:23
Vernondino_: io05:23
dino_ciao05:23
soundray!it05:23
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:24
dino_ok grazie!05:24
shirishthanx ubotu otherwise it would be a pain for us guys who can only speak English05:24
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soundrayVernon, 64MB is a bit tight...05:25
soundrayVernon, does this crash occur before or after installation?05:25
Vernonsoundray: during the hardware probe05:25
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Vernon86%05:26
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Vernonnow i try the server installation05:26
soundrayVernon, booting which kernel? The one on the install CD?05:26
Vernonsoundray: i'vr just pressed enter05:27
flogistoni've succesfully installed warcraft3 with wine. but when i try to run the game wine says that there is no cd in the drive.05:27
soundrayVernon, I am trying to find out what stage you are at.05:27
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Vernonsoundray: i've only chosed the language05:28
Vernonthe it scans for hardware05:28
Vernons/the/then05:28
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soundrayVernon, I'll be right back...05:29
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Vernonit freeze in the server installation, too05:29
zwnjwhat's equal to "rpm -qf /path/to/file" in dpkg system?05:30
Ngdpkg -S05:30
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kouweapt-get install rar doesnt work it gets an error05:33
kouweold version etc.05:33
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fredforfaenevening suckers05:33
soundrayVernon, is your CD drive external?05:33
Vernonyes05:33
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Vernonis a combo, cd+floppy05:33
w00t!nvidia05:33
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736805:33
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googi'm plugging a monitor into my laptop - is there anyway to set a different resolution for the monitor than the laptop screen?05:34
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soundrayVernon, have you got any other Linux live CDs available -- Knoppix, DSL?05:34
shirishany gaim expert here?05:34
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flogistonDon't know if im one.05:35
narlesi just downloaded a movie torrent.. and i have two folders with lots of rar files in them and a sfv file... how do i make a movie?05:35
flogistonMaybe i can help.05:35
flogistonunrar-nonfree05:35
shirishflogiston wanna have a nice message when quitting or going away how to do that?05:35
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flogistonMessage to who?05:35
gnomefreakgrrrrrrrrr i hate .zip files :(05:35
shirishMessage to you floiston :05:36
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Vernonsoundray: now someone answered me. is a bug05:36
j3dican you do a server install off the standard install disk?05:36
shirishflogiston typo issues :)05:36
iamdigitalmanhow come I cant get my web cam to work?05:36
shirishj3di you can do a server install05:36
flogistonI dont know..05:36
kouwewhat app should i get with apt-get install to unrar some rar files.... apt-get install rar doenst work..05:37
soundrayVernon, you mean a bug of the Ubuntu installer?05:37
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PuMpErNiCkLekouwe: 'sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree'05:37
iamdigitalmanI tryed camorama -d /dev/ttyUSB205:37
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soundrayiamdigitalman, is it supported in Linux?05:37
j3diok.. is there any documentation of what the server install is in comparison to the standard install?05:37
flogistonShirish srry05:37
kouwePuMpErNiCkLe, unavailable that error...05:37
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narlesi just downloaded a movie torrent and have no idea how to make it into a movie with the .sfv and .rar files.. can anyone help me?05:38
narles^ torrent noob05:38
PuMpErNiCkLekouwe: You have to have the multiverse repository enabled.05:38
Vernonsoundray: yes. i'll install hoary, then upgrade to breezy05:38
gnomefreakj3di, server install is basic very very basic has what you would need to run it as a server (no desktop)  normal install installs gnome and most things you will need for home use05:38
shirishtry the wiki.ubuntu.com05:38
soundrayVernon, good luck... server is a good idea with only 64MB.05:39
Vernonsoundray: i need X05:39
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iamdigitalmanI dont know, it's an old Compaq USB rebranded intel YC7205:39
shirisho.k. guys logging out05:39
Vernonsoundray: i don't care of the swap wastes time05:39
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iamdigitalmanmy palm is on /dev/ttyUSB1, but only appears during a hotsync.05:39
googanyone know how I can use different X settings for the monitor that my laptop is plugged into?05:39
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soundrayVernon, perhaps go for xubuntu then.05:40
jokodcc chat05:40
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Vernoni'st not my laptop. on mine i've a very bare debian with X and evilwm05:40
soundrayiamdigitalman, when you plug the camera, do you see any related messages in /var/log/syslog ?05:40
joko#ubuntu05:40
iamdigitalmanIm using the device manager.05:41
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j3diso is there a list of apps installed? apache? proftpd? etc..05:41
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ManifoldHey.05:41
jokohey u05:41
ManifoldHow come the Firefox in the repository is 1.0.7?05:41
ManifoldI thought the latest firefox ws 1.505:42
iamdigitalmanit is.05:42
NgManifold: ubuntu doesn't release new versions of packages until the next ubuntu release, only security/bugfixes go into the stable branch05:42
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ManifoldSo where do I look for the latest Firefox then?05:42
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iamdigitalmanwww.getfirefox.com05:42
NgManifold: there's a page in the wiki called FirefoxNewVersion that will guide you through upgrading by hand05:43
ManifoldThank you, Ng.05:43
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Manifold!firefox05:43
Manifold!firefox1.505:43
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion05:43
Linuturkquestion: I've got a folder i pulled over from my ntfs drive, and it's all read only. What's the easiest way to set these permissions for Owner Write?05:44
narlesrar can only be used in terminal?05:44
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sorush20in the ubuntu forums how do I find a list of all the posts I have made?05:44
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sovvy2009hey all05:44
soundrayLinuturk, 'chmod -R o+w folder/'05:45
Vernonbye05:45
soundrayVernon, good luck.05:45
sovvy2009aha, its Uncle Vernon05:45
Vernontnx :)05:46
soundraysovvy2009, independent as a hog on ice05:46
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narleshow do i extract rar files to a new folder using rar?05:46
Linuturkthanks05:46
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Linuturkcrap, i hit "/" when I did that soundray05:47
Linuturkis that a problem?05:48
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UncleDis there any problems with removing the ntpdate call in /etc/rcS.d/ (it fails every time on bootup)05:48
DontFINDHI GUYS i really need some help..i recently installed ubuntu and i cant connect to my wifi router...simply cos my wifi adapter isnt installed..linux detects the adapter but doesnt see it in network conections. its is a US ROBOTICS USB WIFI ADAPTER...can any one please tell me how to install this usb adapter??05:48
soundrayLinuturk, did you do this as root or as a regular user?05:48
Linuturkregular05:48
soundrayLinuturk, and you didn't use sudo?05:49
UncleDSynchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org (It fails every time on bootup) - anyone have this problem?05:49
Linuturksoundray, no sudo05:49
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DontFINDcan anyone help with the problem im having plz????05:50
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Linuturksoundray, I ran this in the terminal from my Home directory "chmod -R o+w FAIA/" and the permissions didn't change. FAIA being the folder in my Home directory where all the subfiles and folders are05:51
soundrayLinuturk, then it won't cause much of a problem. You will only have modified files that were owned by the user. User-owned files that are write-protected are quite rare.05:51
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DontFINDcan anyone help with the problem im having plz????05:51
soundray!anyone05:52
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>05:52
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sorush20guys I keep getting this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/684505:52
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DontFINDHI GUYS i really need some help..i recently installed ubuntu and i cant connect to my wifi router...simply cos my wifi adapter isnt installed..linux detects the adapter but doesnt see it in network conections. its is a US ROBOTICS USB WIFI ADAPTER...can any one please tell me how to install this usb adapter??05:52
w00thelp me !!! how to setup a external monitor on a laptop using nvidia 32 go graphic card? thanks05:52
soundrayLinuturk, sorry, my mistake05:53
soundrayLinuturk, chmod -R u+w FAIA/05:53
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gnomefreaksorush20, without sudo just use make see if that helps05:53
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butcherbirdUncleD: if you want it to stop trying to sync then maybe sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate05:53
Syrushere's a question: I have a computer at home called mediapc, and I'd like to access it sometimes on my lan via one ip address, and sometimes from work via an internet address, is there any way I can use the same hostname for both IPs (without switching network profiles and all that crap)?05:53
soundrayLinuturk, revert the damage from my mistake by doing 'chmod -R o-w FAIA/'05:54
soundrayLinuturk, u=user, o=others05:54
w00thelp me !!! how to setup a external monitor on a laptop using nvidia 32 go graphic card? thanks05:54
Linuturksoundray, that did it.thanks buddie05:54
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sorush20gnomefreak: no it dosen't work at all http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/684605:55
soundrayDontFIND, do you happen to know the name of the wifi chipset is in your adapter?05:55
funmanExcuse me, just wondering, I used ubuntuguide.org last time I had ubuntu...and it says to get extra repositories. Of course these won't help much on Breezy, but would anyone know what the new ones in this case would be ?05:55
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soundray!tell funman about easysource05:56
soundrayfunman, perhaps ubotu's hint will help.05:56
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funmanThank you =)05:56
Linuturk!dual monitor05:56
ubotuLinuturk: I give up, what is it?05:56
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tgwjhi. I have changed "hdd" to "hdb" in /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/device.map and /boot/grub/menu.lst. I am on the ubuntu livecd with ubuntu on disk in chroot. grub-install /dev/hda sais "cannot find device for /boot" /boot is on the / partition. what now ?05:57
Linuturk!dual display05:57
ubotuLinuturk: Did you get hit by a windmill?05:57
tomukasi just configured wlan at a laptop... now i got the problem: sudo: unable to lookup <name> via gethostbyname()05:57
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Linuturk!dual display05:58
ubotuLinuturk: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!05:58
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w00thelp me !!! how to setup a external monitor on a laptop using nvidia 32 go graphic card? thanks05:58
w00thelp me !!! how to setup a external monitor on a laptop using nvidia 32 go graphic card? thanks05:58
gnomefreak!help05:58
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tgwjw00t, check the nvidia redme05:58
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Linuturktgwj, where is that readme?05:59
AnswerIs there a way to run like a LiveCD from the 5.10 install cd ?05:59
soundrayLinuturk, in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/05:59
tgwjnvidia.com where you foenload the proprietary dribvetrs05:59
wondererI think so06:00
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Prozacwhere is the openssl located?06:00
soundrayw00t, check out readme's in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/06:00
tgwjanyone have an idea on my problem ?06:00
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soundraytgwj, what are you trying to achieve?06:00
tgwjI have changed "hdd" to "hdb" in /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/device.map and /boot/grub/m I have changed "hdd" to "hdb" in /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/device.map and /boot/grub/menu.lst. I am on the ubuntu livecd with ubuntu on disk in chroot. grub-install /dev/hda sais "cannot find device for /boot" /boot is on the / partition. what now ?enu.lst. I am on the ubuntu livecd with ubuntu on disk in chroot. grub-install /dev/hda sais "cannot find device fo06:01
tgwjr /boot" /boot is on the / partition. what now ?06:01
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tomukaswhat has to be written in the /etc/hosts?06:01
tgwjoops copied parts  twice :o06:01
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soundraytgwj, reinstalling grub on the hd?06:01
psusiAnswer: no... you run the livecd like a livecd06:01
tgwjyes.06:01
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TokenBadok here is another hard drive problem....as I was downloading ubuntu started showing out..and the file browser locked up..now...trying to download a file it says the drive is full but there is 3.6 gigs free on the drive06:03
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tgwjand it can't find the device for /boot. there is none. how do I tell grub-install that it's on /06:03
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AnswerTokenBad: get to a text terminal and type  "df -ah"06:04
soundraytgwj, still trying to understand your problem. Did you not install grub when you installed Ubuntu?06:04
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TokenBadAnswer, ok and I am looking for?06:04
AnswerTokenBad: free space vs used space06:04
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tgwjI am moving the drives from one computer to another. trying to fix windows the mbr got erased.06:04
tgwjam I trying to fix it.06:05
AnswerTokenBad: Use%06:05
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TokenBadtmpfs                 507M   13M  494M   3% /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile06:05
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TokenBadwhat is that?06:05
AnswerTokenBad: you can ignore that... look for /dev/hda1 or /dev/hda206:05
binahow do I make the computer mount /dev/shm with about 512MB on boot.  at the moment it's mounting it with only 126MB06:05
TokenBadsays only 3.2 gigs free06:05
TokenBador 96% used06:05
AnswerTokenBad: then that's how much u have free06:06
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TokenBadand my OS is on a different drive06:06
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TokenBadbut why can the file not be saved to it?06:06
AnswerTokenBad: maybe its not mounted or the permissions are incorrect06:06
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TokenBadit was working till the file browser locked up..and all that..06:06
Answerthen kill the file browser06:07
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TokenBadI rebooted06:07
TokenBadbut if I save from like a text editor06:07
TokenBadit saves06:07
TokenBadso know its not read only06:07
soundraytgwj, you have Windows on hda, and Ubuntu on hdb, which in a former machine was hdd?06:07
tgwjyes.06:07
tgwjsorry I was unclear06:08
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tgwjI have changed /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/device.map to reflect the hdb/hdd change. but the real problem is now the "cannot find device for /boot" stuff. I have never had that when I recovered grub on a different machine when switching distros06:09
builderafter installing the phpmyadmin package what url should I go to to use it?06:10
soundraytgwj, have you tried running grub-install with the --root-directory option without chroot?06:10
tgwjbuilder, localhost/phpmyadmin06:10
tgwjsoundray, no.06:10
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buildertgwj, when I go there nothing shows up, 40406:11
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tgwjsoundray, no error this time. thanks for the tip. I'll be back if there are mor problems.06:12
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buildertgwj, does the symlink to sites-available/default need to be in sites/enabled?06:12
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soundraybuilder, he's gone...06:13
Kejk_PLHi, I have iritating question - when will be firefox 1.5 backport?06:13
Pygiwhen dapper is out...06:13
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Kejk_PLups06:13
NgKejk_PL: have a look at the FirefoxNewVersion wiki page06:13
Pygikejk: just compile firefox out of CVS06:13
Ngout of cvs?!06:13
Ngwhy on earth would you say that?!06:13
gnomefreakKejk_PL, you can get it from :06:13
Kejk_PLLOL :)06:13
Pygiyup, it works good :)06:13
gnomefreak!ff1.506:13
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:13
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Ngreally don't do that06:13
jokodal.net06:13
Pyging: cause cvs firefox works good :))))06:13
Ngif nothing else you'll be waiting a very long time for it to compile ;)06:13
PygiI do it, and it works :)06:13
z4nd|nixhey all06:13
Pyging: not really :P06:13
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NgPygi: how wonderful for you, that's really bloody awful advice to give in here though06:14
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Pyging: lol :P06:14
Pygi!ff1.506:14
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:14
Kejk_PLthanks06:14
Pygiwell, 1.5 has a lot of memory leaks....06:14
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Kejk_PLI simpli don't have time to compile... :(06:14
marius_How do I move a file from its current directory and back to the directory which the directory is positioned? On the terminal06:15
gnomefreakKejk_PL, following that wiki took unst an hour for me atleast06:15
gnomefreakid say about 30 mins06:15
Pygifreaky: I checked the thingy :P06:16
Kejk_PLIt is quite simple. But I want package :P06:16
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Kejk_PLhehe06:16
Pygifreaky: thats seems a bit too simple tho :P use a subchapters maybe?06:16
z4nd|nixanyone know how to install Intel 855GM graphc driver ?06:16
gnomefreakPygi oh yes going to i just wanted to start with outline06:16
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Pygifreaky: k, so we could start working on it06:17
Kejk_PLbye06:17
TokenBadok figured it out...06:17
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marius_If I press: "mv filename .." will that make the file go back one folder?06:17
gnomefreakPygi, ok thats fine i am at school tonight so i will start on it tomorrow sometime (few hrs to a day) should be done06:18
soundraymarius_, yes.06:18
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rchow do is say or? pls help. thnx.  "if [ $start > $end -a $start = $end ] " is "-a" the way to do or?06:18
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gnomefreakim almost done writing a how to on ww2d that i will finish today i hope06:18
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marius_okey thanks06:18
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Linuturkso, i loaded nvidia-settings. restarted the xserver with control+alt+backspace and now my xserver is screwed up. I can't boot to the gui06:19
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jonoI don't have a floppy drive, but if you put a floppy disk in the drive in Breezy, does it automatically mount and a nautilus appear?06:19
gnomefreakjono, where did you put the floppy disk if you dont have a floppy drive?06:20
Krishnautixwhats a metacity theme?06:20
gnomefreak!themes06:20
Krishnautix! metacity themes06:20
ubotuKrishnautix: Are you on ritalin?06:20
Krishnautix! metacity06:20
ubotuKrishnautix: Wish i knew06:20
soundrayjono, I don't have a floppy drive either, but I don't think it will.06:20
gnomefreakubotu tell Krishnautix about themes06:21
jonognomefreak, huh?06:21
Krishnautixthanks06:21
jonognomefreak, assuming you have a floppy drive of course06:21
jono:)06:21
gnomefreakjono, you said you didnt have a flopy drive but you put a floppt disk in06:21
gnomefreakohhhhhhh ok i thought you did that :(06:21
Ngjono: the hal daemon probes drives regularly, so it should notice i think06:21
Krishnautixthanks gnomefreak06:22
Ngor maybe it's g-v-m that does it06:22
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gnomefreakyw Krishnautix06:22
jonognomefreak, :P06:22
Ngsomething used to make my kernel whinge every few seconds that there was no cd in the drive at least ;)06:22
gnomefreakubotu doesnt post my info in room anymore :(06:22
ubotugnomefreak: Do they come in packets of five?06:22
gnomefreakok now he does :(06:22
jonodoes anyone have a floppy drive to test this?06:22
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St-hello06:22
St-my error is sudo: no passwd entry for root06:22
rickard!cedega06:23
ubotucedega is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/06:23
St-what can i do ?06:23
psusiI don't have a floppy drive, but I don't think it can notice it... if it probed it every few seconds to see if a disc was in the drive, you'd constantly be annoyed by hearing the floppy spin up and the light go on with no disc in the drive06:23
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jonopsusi, sure, good point :)06:23
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CanYouHelpMePlzhmm i cant seem to get sound in teamspeak to work..06:24
psusibecause if memory serves, you have to actually spin up the floppy to see if there is media in it...06:24
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psusibut who cares?  floppies are as dead as dos... may they both rest in pieces!06:25
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St-my error is sudo: no passwd entry for root | help help me!06:25
SeveasSt-, put your /etc/passwd on the pastebin06:25
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yanchengi was wondering when i perform search using "find ~ -name netbean* 2>/dev/null"06:26
yanchengi can only get the result "/home/yccheok/netbeans-4.1", although i have /home/yccheok/netbeans-4.1/bin/netbeans06:26
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paulproteusyancheng: netbean\*06:27
paulproteusor 'netbean*'06:27
paulproteusyancheng: Try this for me:06:27
paulproteusyancheng: echo netbean*06:27
paulproteusDo that in /tmp/ first, and then in your $HOME.06:27
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CanYouHelpMePlzsomone here got teamspeak and can do me a favor?06:27
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yanchengpaulproteus: cool06:27
yanchengpaulproteus: may i noe the difference of 'netbean*' and "netbean*"?06:28
jamiehow can i get firefox 1.5 in ubuntu, the 1.07 is the only one in synaptic?06:28
Seveas!ff1506:28
ubotuSeveas: Did you get hit by a windmill?06:28
Seveas!ff1.506:28
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:28
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MozoI have troubles to run anyone QuakeWorld client for Linux in my Ubuntu.06:28
paulproteusyancheng: Have you done the echo in both places?06:28
paulproteusyancheng: 'netbean*' is not expanded by the shell.  netbean* alone is expanded by the shell.06:29
gnomefreaki now see what everyone meant stay away from java itsss slow06:29
psusiyes... I hate all that is java06:29
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paulproteusgnomefreak: Only the Swing Java GUI tool is necessarily slow.06:29
paulproteusThe language's e.g. computation isn't that slow.06:29
gnomefreakthis ww2d thing is very very slow06:30
yanchengpaulproteus: may i noe wat is mean by expanded by shell?06:30
HaiKaratewerd! Sing blows klinks!06:30
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paulproteusyancheng: Did you try the "echo"?06:30
psusijava is all around slow and bloated... that's what comes from lazy programmers who rely on garbage collectors to clean up their memory06:30
paulproteusyancheng: In both /tmp/ and $HOME ?06:30
HaiKarateand sWing too! werd!06:30
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paulproteusyancheng: "echo" simply outputs whatever it's told.  e.g., "echo hi" would output hi.06:30
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trappistpsusi: like perl programmers, ruby programmers, python programmers, etc.?06:31
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vega-psusi: that's bs06:31
yanchengpaulproteus: ya, i did tat :)06:31
trappistthere's nothing wrong with the vm/interpreter doing garbage collection06:31
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psusitrappist: which is why those are all scripting languages, not reall suitible for large applications06:31
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psusitrappist: yes... there is... when it decides to collect, it stalls the app, and it uses twice as much memory because of the buddy allocator06:32
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yanchenganywhere, i just wan to find out my long lost netbean, now i get it ;)06:32
hmpone linux box is running "syslogd -L", how can i receive the syslog remotely ?06:32
polpakAnyone here play Savage06:32
polpak?06:32
trappistpsusi: way I see it, java is for portability, and you should be prepared to make performance sacrifices for write-once-run-anywhere, but I wouldn't call the programmers lazy because the vm does garbage collection for em06:32
rickard!cedega06:32
ubotuI guess cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/06:32
paulproteustrappist: Python is also for portability. (-:06:33
polpakoh, drat. I thought this was ubuntu-offtopic. Sorry =p06:33
psusitrappist: most of the programs on your system write now are written in portable C just fine... and if you really insist on portable binaries, well... you can use mono for that06:33
CanYouHelpMePlzsomone here got teamspeak and can do me a favor?06:33
gnomefreakpsusi, thats over there >>>>06:33
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rickardAnyone knows how to install cedega from a binary package?06:34
mcphailIs there any major Linux C or C++ app which doesn't have a "lazy" developer by that argument? What major piece of software doesn't have memory leaks?06:34
SteveStevingshow do i enable tv out on xorg?06:34
trappistrickard: you mean like a .deb?06:34
kemikpsusi:  isnt mono just as bloated as the java vm ?06:34
rickardtrappist - no.. its like a folder with lots of files06:35
psusimcphail: memory leaks are rare, not the norm... and they aren't lazy beacuse they actually manage their own memory... sometimes they make mistakes... but most of the time they get it right which results in less memory usage and more responsive applications than using gc06:35
diannawillshm.. if you disabled eth0 from connecting in the installation, how do you bring make it working afterwards?06:35
trappistrickard: was it originally a tarball?06:35
paulproteusyancheng: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/quoting.html may help you06:35
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psusikemik: it can be... you have the option of using gc with mono... but you can also write unmanaged code06:35
trappistrickard: if not, what kind of files06:35
paulproteuskemik: The Java VM isn't all that bloated anymore.06:35
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tomukashave a wlanproblem: im using Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG ... the connection is disconnected automatically after 10 minutes06:36
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rickardtrappist - well, first it was zip files, then I extracted them, then there where rar files, then I unrared them.. and now its a folder06:36
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trappisttomukas: there are some issues with the current version of the driver.  it's possible to update the driver, and you probably want to update the firmware as well.06:36
kemikpaulproteus:  well it does allocate a whole lot of memory06:36
paulproteuskemik: That's true, I suppose.06:36
trappistrickard: I guarantee you didn't get that from transgaming.06:36
kemikbut i enjoy coding in java06:37
kemikit's all so easy ;)06:37
mcphailpsusi: A quick glance at a security advisory will show that they make mistakes more often than "sometimes"06:37
rickardtrappist - i did.. sort of06:37
kemikC++ is nice too, but more timeconsuming and you'll have to be more watchful06:37
trappistrickard: you didn't.  if you want to steal very nice, very cheap software, kindly don't ask for help with the warez distribution format here.06:38
foxinesshi,when i do apt-get update it will output this "Could not download all repository indexes ",the reason behind this is wheel i download the index the connection drooped, and to solve this on simple way i will Wait some day to be this index be out date ,is there other way?06:38
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tomukastrappist: i will try to, thx06:38
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toreis there a tarball dist of a minimal ubuntu system?  (for easy installation as a xen domain, chroot, or similar)06:39
psusiwhy the hell would someone zip a rar?06:39
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tomukastrappist: i dont know how to use the firmware-i06:40
psusitore: you can install the debootstrap package, then debootstrap a chroot06:40
tomukasfiles06:40
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torepsusi: ok.  I don't have ubuntu here, see, but would debootstrap work on RHEL if I compiled it there?06:41
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Morrowynhi06:43
Ngtore: in theory, yes06:43
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Morrowynwhen i try to mount my lexar jumpdrive usb stick , gnome says: Error: given udi is not a mountable device. However the usb stick is in fat32 formatted. Any ideas how i can mount it under ubuntu?06:44
toreNg: okay, let's hope so.  I've already fetched the source of debootstrap.  :-)06:44
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netstarhow do I change cpu frequencies in ubuntu?06:46
torehm.  debootstrap's Makefile wasn't really written for /usr/local-installations :|06:46
kameronnetstar, that's generally a bios level thing to do06:46
kameronnetstar, OS level overclocking is kinda lame, IMO. i don't know of any tools available to do that in linux, though there may be some.06:47
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netstarkameron, heh06:47
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netstarkinda lame?06:48
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netstarfor a laptop?06:48
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kameronnetstar, it's just cleaner to do it at the bios level. what is your bios06:48
thegladiatori'd like my mozilla to open new windows in a diff tab and not a new window ! as simple as it seems , but I cant get this done . Can someone help me ?06:48
St-Seveas, this is my /etc/passwd http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6847 ! where is root:x:... ?06:49
polpakthegladiator, have you downloaded the 'tabbed browser' preferences extention ?06:49
thegladiatornot sure polpak just default breezy06:50
SeveasSt-, why the hell did you delete it?!?06:50
thegladiatori'll check in adept06:50
thegladiatorwhat shud  check for ?06:50
polpakthegladiator, it's not there06:50
thegladiatorthen?06:50
St-is my error delete root user :\ what can i do ?06:50
polpakthegladiator, if you go to tools->extentions (in firefox)06:50
polpakthegladiator, or are you not using firefox?06:51
St-Seveas,06:51
thegladiatoryes I am06:51
mcphail!info cpudyn06:51
ubotucpudyn: (CPU dynamic frequency control for processors with scaling), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 23 kB, Installed size: 120 kB06:51
lucasvoWTF??!!06:51
lucasvolucasvo@lama:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts06:51
lucasvoPassword:06:51
lucasvoSegmentation faultsts... 92%06:51
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SeveasSt-, boot from a live cd, restore root in /etc/passwd, /etc/group and /etc/shadow06:51
St-tnx06:51
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polpakthegladiator, you can download all kinds of extentions from addons.mozilla.org06:51
thegladiatoryes i am right there06:51
polpakthegladiator, search for tabbed browsing06:52
thegladiatorits possible for me to brows in tabbed mode polpak but not when I click on a link06:52
polpakthegladiator, and try the 'tabbed browser preferences'06:52
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thegladiatoryes i am installin it06:52
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polpakthegladiator, then you can set your options for tabbed browsing06:52
thegladiatorthere are 53 under tabbed browsing06:53
jorgphow do I search system and find out what package contains prtypes.h06:53
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Seveas!find prtypes.h06:53
lucasvoE: Dynamic MMap ran out of room06:53
lucasvoE: Error occurred while processing libsigc++-2.0-0c2a (NewVersion1)06:53
lucasvoE: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ch.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages06:53
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lucasvoE: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.06:53
lucasvowhat does this mean?06:53
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Seveaslucasvo, NEVER paste in here06:53
lucasvoSeveas: 4 lines?06:53
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lucasvoirssi wasn't even asking06:54
victor_sierraI had updates come in today, but Software Updates states the packages to be updated are "NOT AUTHENTICATED".  They're pretty important packages, sudo included .. is this a known issue?06:54
Seveaslucasvo, even 4 lines06:54
thegladiatorany ide polpak which is the exact one ?there are 53 items06:54
thegladiatori am going through each now06:54
lucasvoanyway, what's wrong?06:54
Seveasclean up your sources.list :)06:54
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gnomefreakwhy not its easy06:55
victor_sierraI don't mind editing it, but ..  I'm thinking this should work, with the "official" Ubuntu repositories and all06:55
lucasvoE: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ch.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages06:56
lucasvothis error is still there06:56
lowman62harrow woom06:56
karlwrkis there a default xmodmap file anywhere on breezy?06:56
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Seveaslucasvo, delete all files (Not folders) from /var/lib/apt/lists06:56
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thegladiatorpolpak, i installed a few extensions , now what ?06:57
polpakthegladiator, there are 53 addons, or just 53 different settings for tabbed browsing06:57
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thegladiatoryes i installed seeminly 2 that fits my bill06:57
thegladiatornow how does it work ?06:57
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thegladiatoror how can I implement it ?06:57
polpakthegladiator, if you searched for 'tabbed browsing' it should have been the one saying 'Tabbed Browser Preferences' near the bottom of the first pave06:58
polpakthegladiator, page06:58
ralliart4evahey06:58
polpakthegladiator, to access the options for a particular extension, you just restart firefox06:58
ralliart4evai'm new to linux but can say i'm an expert on windows operating systems06:58
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thegladiatorpolpak, yes thats what I installed06:58
lowman62that says enuff :P06:58
polpakthegladiator, then go to tools->extentions click the extension you want to change, then click the options button06:59
ralliart4evawhat i want to do is install ubuntu on a sererate partition06:59
polpakthegladiator, though for 'tabbed browser preferences' this isn't the way to do it06:59
thegladiatorpolpak, then ?06:59
polpakthegladiator, cause it sets up a menu under edit->preferences06:59
polpakthegladiator, called 'tabbed browser preferences'06:59
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ralliart4evabut when i'm in expert install i'm not seeing anywhere to direct the install and i don't want to overwrite my windows install06:59
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thegladiatorpolpak, yep got it . thanks a lot07:00
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ralliart4evais there any step by step guide i can follow or can someone give me any help in this area07:00
thegladiatorpolpak, i feel that shoul be installed with ubuntu by default07:00
polpakthegladiator, there are a ton of firefox extentions07:01
lowman62ralliart4eva: here you will love this http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=07:01
polpakthegladiator, and some people prefer different options07:01
thegladiatorpolpak, correct07:01
polpakthegladiator, you should check out some of the other extensions there. Some of them are quite handy07:02
rickard!cedega07:02
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/07:02
polpakthegladiator, I like the 'Mouse Gestures' one07:02
gnomefreakthere was an issue with the tabbed browser option at one time not sure if it was fixed yet07:02
victor_sierraI posted my sources.list onto the ubuntu pastebin service .. is there something wrong I'm missing?  There's only four active lines -- main, breezy-updates, breezy-backports, breezy-security07:02
thegladiatorpolpak, yes i am trying a few cool ones out there...07:02
ralliart4evathanks alot lowman07:02
lucasvoE: Error occurred while processing libsm6-dbg (NewVersion1)07:02
lucasvothis is strange :(07:02
lowman62ralliart4eva: yw :)07:02
victor_sierrahttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/684907:03
KoNanyone else have problems with steam and wine 0.9.5?07:03
gnomefreakrickard,  if you want to keep knowing about cedega just type /msg ubotu cedega  and the bot will im you with the info07:03
theineWill there ever be a new Skype version for Linux?07:03
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loeppeltheine, is the current version very outdated?07:04
theineOct 25, 200507:04
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gnomefreaktheine, thats not outdated07:04
finzschhi07:05
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theinegnomefreak, considering the bugginess of this version, it is to my taste07:05
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lowman62lucasvo: are you a programmer?07:06
gnomefreaktheine,  i dont use skype and never will so i dont know too much about the bugs but i would say soonest for next verions would be marchish07:06
lucasvolowman62: no07:06
Sonderbladesince i added breezy backports to my repositories i have a big problem with automake generating bad Makefiles and im unable to compile anything07:06
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woodwizzleAnyone in here know how to get usb mics to work under linux07:06
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Sonderbladeis it just me or has anyone else the same problem?07:06
lowman62lucasvo: then uninstall that...it is for useful debugging info07:06
theinegnomefreak, what do you base that prediction on?07:06
lowman62lucasvo: look here http://www.linuxia.de/packages/Debian/unstable/Source/xfree8607:07
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victor_sierraAhh.. I musta hit the server just in a freak time or something.  An apt-get update, it's working now .. so ya know.07:07
gnomefreaktime intervals of past versions of other programs and seeing as i dont see it on skype normally people will announce project a few months in advanced07:07
gnomefreakgive me a min il tell you when07:07
rickardI don't get how to download CVS repository for WineX.. it just shows lots of files but no download option07:07
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lowman62point and click07:09
lowman62:P07:09
loeppeli think so too gnomefreak07:09
greenpenguin13rickard, use the command line version of cvs07:10
rickardgreenpenguin13 - and how do I do that?07:11
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gimmulfHi, is Ubuntu Breezy 5.10 running smooth on an powermac?07:12
gnomefreakthere is no announcements about next version of skype anywhere so atleast i would say 2 months07:12
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greenpenguin13rickard, man cvs <-read through that :) ive not got the hang yet07:12
loeppelrickard, look at cvs --help oder man cvs - mostly on the webpage of the project the provide a sample line to log into their cvs repository07:12
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enkravHello, I have very limited bandwidth: How can I download only security fixes?  (5.10)07:13
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Seveasenkrav, the only updates to 5.10 ARE security updates07:14
alphyanybody know wherer I can get a good set of fonts for Linux?07:14
gnomefreaka new version of skype for win is out but linux isnt win so give it time (its free)07:14
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Sonderbladealphy: install msttcorefonts07:14
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lucasvoenkrav: you need to uncomment the lines with deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted07:15
lucasvos/dapper/breezy/g07:15
KoNenkrav, and as long as you do not use backport repositories, you will only get security updates07:15
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loeppelalphy, or look on any font page for nice fonts and then look them up with google like this: "nameofthefont filetype:ttf" so you get many direct-download results07:16
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thomashi all07:16
luizjjghj07:16
loeppelhi thomas07:16
thomasi need help with my gcc and glut libaries, i thought, you can help me ;))07:17
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thomasis this a german or english channel?07:17
loeppelenglish07:17
oden1howzit07:17
loeppelgerman look at: #ubuntu-de07:17
oden1after installation i get a grub error 1707:18
thomasokay thx07:18
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oden1can some1 hepl me with that07:18
ppdhi. is it possible to get a list of supported resolutions in sane with just one command?07:18
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loeppeloden1, oh thats bad, are you sure your grub was installed into the right "mbr"/partition?07:19
oden1no soz ;p07:19
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loeppelhmm, is your linux partition no the first hdd?07:19
oden1yes07:19
loeppelhmm, and the question about installing grub into mbr you've answerd yes?07:20
oden1miss read that one :/ i have noidea about that one07:20
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trappistgrub couldn't throw an error if it wasn't installed on the mbr07:21
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FriarHi... How do i get an application/octet-stream file to run when I double click it in gnome?07:21
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oden1ill try again ta trappist and loeppel07:22
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Humhi07:23
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Humi have problem07:24
Humcan u help me ?07:24
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lowman62Hum: what is the prob?07:24
laurane92#quizzz07:24
Humi use ubuntu 5.10 server install with desktop07:25
laurane92slt07:25
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Humand i can change resolution07:25
Hum* i can't07:25
laurane92slt07:25
trappist!tell hum about fixres07:25
Friar!octet-stream07:26
ubotuFriar: Wish i knew07:26
laurane92pkoi07:26
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laurane92vs parlez bizar07:26
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Humi want to know minimum system requirement for ubuntu 5.1007:32
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ompaulHum, why not tell us what you have and we might be able to suggest a version or say Nope that won't work07:33
Humok07:33
HumPII 350Mhz07:34
Hum128mb ram07:34
trappistthat's plenty07:34
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woodgrainHum,  I ran ubuntu on pII-450 w/ 178 ram.  worked fine07:34
trappistyou won't be playing doom3 on it, and you might want a lightweight window manager07:34
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_skberaCan anyone tell me how can I locate and remove the modem lock file.07:35
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tsw187Mb ram isnt much even after switching to xfce :/07:36
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_skberaCan anyone tell me how can I locate and remove the modem lock file in Kubuntu Linux?07:36
sas171hi, how to unpack a password-encrypted ace archive?07:36
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jorgp_skbera, it's it in /var/tmp or /var/ something, like ttyS0.lock or whatever your modem port is07:37
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lowman62_skbera: do you have more than one modem?07:37
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_skberaNo I have just one modem connected at USB0 (/dev/ttyACM0)07:38
lowman62_skbera: okay one moment..seaching for you07:38
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jorgpthen it would be ttyACM0.lock07:39
_skberaMy problem is when I connect to internet using my dial up connection, sometimes i gets disconnected automatically and I have to restart my kubuntu system to reconnect. Is there a way to reconnect without restarting?07:39
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ompaul_skbera, to build a locate database you can run >>sudo updatedb<<07:39
_skberaI can't kill the pppd process even with root permission.07:40
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mika0800"a lightweight window manager" - try IceWm ...07:40
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CosmoDad_skbera: maybe your driver is buggy and reloading it helps..07:40
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ompaul_skbera, >>sudo  /etc/init.d/ppp(d) stop <<might help07:41
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lowman62_skbera: # sudo internet --connect=<connection-name>07:41
lowman62 then #password:*******07:41
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ITROalguien habla  espaol??07:42
ompaul!es07:42
damgdoes anyone know how to start a second X instance on a different tty (e.g. on tty8) while standard one is already running on e.g. tty7?07:42
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:42
CosmoDadlowman62: what package contains that "internet" binary?07:42
CosmoDadlowman62: never saw that before..07:42
_skberalowman62: My problem is when I connect to internet using my dial up connection, sometimes i gets disconnected automatically and I have to restart my kubuntu system to reconnect. Is there a way to reconnect without restarting?07:42
ITROgracia el problema es que nadie ayuda y no contestan .07:42
ITROgracias07:43
butcherbird_skbera: might try 'kill -9 whatever' in the future07:43
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ompauldamg, you can lock the existing session and then open a new one with >> system lock-screen<<07:43
lowman62CosmoDad: am not sure just looked it up and apparently it is installed by default unless other connection type is present in kubuntu07:43
SirKillalothow do I search for a string in many files?07:43
ompaulITRO,  >> /join #ubuntu-es<<07:43
kemikSirKillalot:  grep07:43
lowman62<--I use a T107:43
damgompaul, isn't it possible to run two concurrent sessions?07:43
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CosmoDadlowman62: I don't have it installed...07:44
kemikSirKillalot:  cat filename | grep string    ... or just use grep like "grep files string"07:44
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kemik(or was is string files..)07:44
kevinzweird, I install eclipse by manually downloading it from eclipse.org and the version works swiftly and smoothly.. frankly i would say it is better than the one got from apt-get07:44
CosmoDadlowman62: oh wait, you made a restriction07:44
lowman62CosmoDad: do you use dialup?07:44
CosmoDadlowman62: nope I don't, that's probably it07:44
lowman62yes sudo07:44
damgompaul, since I have a clanwar in several settings and the quakeengine doesn't release the mouse to lock the screen :/07:44
kemikkevinz:  apt-get works too, just remove the gcj packages07:44
woodwizzledoes the ubuntu kernel have  USB rate limiting detection turned off07:44
damgsettings->minutes07:44
lowman62there ya go ;)07:44
CosmoDadlowman62: concerning the "unless ..." part I meant07:44
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kemikkevinz:  and install the SUN java07:44
ompauldamg, you can but you have to log in and switch between the users a bit like ctrl + alt + F1-6 however if it is just a real estate thing then down the bottom of the screen you have the option of running 4 virtual desktops in the existing session07:45
lowman62CosmoDad: ya I understood ;)07:45
CosmoDadlowman62: :)07:45
ompauldamg, in other words yes but I don't know how :)07:45
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kevinzkemik: oh, i will try... why apt-get version of eclipse is small. it seems to require 5x mb only07:45
damgompaul, ok, thanks ;)07:45
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lowman62_skbera: I would create an alias for that so you don't have to keep typing that in all the time LOL :P07:46
kevinzkemik: i don't have gcj installed but gij. it seems that eclipse-base package requires gij07:47
lowman62_skbera: sudo internet --clearcurr  <--you can use that to disconnect07:47
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zool2005can I enqueue songs in xmms?07:47
kemikkevinz:  i dont remember the exact steps i did, but it was something along the lines of removing the default Java-packages and then i installed SUN java07:47
lowman62enqueue??07:47
ompaulzool2005, is that queue ?07:47
kemik!tell kevinz about java07:48
rickardHavn't those guys making Linux heard of something called exe files.. They are great, just double click and the program/game will get installed.. It's truly amazing.. Windows have had it for years!07:48
_skberalowman62: Thankyou very much for your kind help....07:48
kemikkevinz:  and then i apt-get'ed eclipse :)07:48
Seveasrickard, and it's been a broken concept since the beginning...07:48
cello_rasprickard they are called packages nub07:48
lowman62_skbera: you are very welcome :)07:48
kemikkevinz:  choosing not to install the suggested eclipse-gcj etc07:48
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ompaulrickard, if that is what you want #windows is the last channel on the left hand side of the server07:48
zool2005ompaul, I remember in RedHat I could use the context menu to queue songs in  xmms, is it possible with Ubuntu?07:48
Seveasrickard, Ubuntu packages adhere to certain standards, to make sure your system does not break07:49
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kemikkevinz:  see !javadebs for Sun java in .deb format07:49
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Seveasrickard, if you prefere a broken system, follow ompauls advice07:49
kevinzkemik: oh. thank you :) btw do you install firefox manually?07:49
zool2005ompaul, I was wondering if there was a plugin, I've searched my repositories but no luck07:49
ompaulzool2005, click on pl for play list and right click in there - you can be very creative :)07:49
cello_rasp"help i just installed warcraft and my sound card doesnt work anymore"07:49
butcherbirdrickard: but then youll never learn anything unless u break your system.. :)07:49
rickardMy windows system didn't break, I got a little blue cute screen a little now and than but nothing a format c: couldn't handlle...07:49
kemikkevinz:  i've installed firefox from the repositories (not using ff 1.5)07:49
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Seveasrickard, ROFL, and you call THAT didn't break?!?07:50
lowman62butcherbird: LOL ya that is soooo true...:P07:50
kemiksure rickard is trolling07:50
kemik:)07:50
kemiksurely07:50
Seveasyeah07:50
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cello_rasprickard reformatting on every problem doesnt make for a stable system :))07:50
Seveastime to end it07:50
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ompaulrickard, byee07:50
cello_rasplol07:50
zool2005ompaul, cheers07:50
ompaulzool2005, I am here :-)07:50
rickardAtleast I didn't have to use cryptic bacl woodo magic to get my programs working07:50
turixmy X doesnt start at startup07:50
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turixanyone can help me with that?07:51
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Seveashmm07:51
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sorush20guys should I set the i/o support for my dvdrw drive to 32 bit with hdparm?07:51
ompaulturix, what kind of machine, and what kind of video card is it?07:51
lowman62rickard: problem is you don't know woodoo magick to make installs :P07:51
Seveassorush20, sounds logical :)07:51
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SirKillalothow can I see how much free space a drive has in console?07:51
SeveasSirKillalot, df -h07:51
Seveas(DiskFree -HumanReadableOutput)07:52
turixompaul, its a P4 and a Nvidia geforce4 mmx07:52
ompaulturix, I have a one size fits all solution that works sometimes ->>sudo dpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<07:52
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Seveaseeeeeeeeep pygi is back07:52
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sorush20Seveas: should i set it to on?07:52
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PygiSeveas: and that's why you left :P Cause I am back :P I didn't knew I bother you that much :P07:53
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turix"sudo: dpg-reconfigure: command not found"07:53
Pygidpkg-reconfigure07:53
St-gh07:53
woodgrainhow do I toggle desktops w/ keys?07:54
ompaulturix, sorry >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<07:54
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sorush20how do I find out if my hdd supports i/o 32bit?07:55
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drcurlHi, just installed breezy, is it normal that the research I make in synaptic take very long time to complete and take uge amount of ressource07:56
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PygiSeveas: ping?07:56
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Seveaspong07:56
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ompauldrcurl, when it starts up first it has to get a couple of megs of material are you on dialup or dsl?07:57
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PygiSeveas: you left cause I came back :P07:57
Seveas:)07:57
mark__Does anyone know of a website that will make repositories for you?07:57
drcurlompaul, t107:57
woodgrain!toggle desktops07:57
ubotuNot a clue, woodgrain07:57
mark__lists, I mean..07:57
Krishnautixhey anyone tried installing GNOME Art07:57
PygiSeveas: I knew I was botherin' you , but didn't knew I bother you that much :P07:57
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ompauldrcurl, that means nothing to me what is that 56k or something?07:57
Krishnautix! toggle desktops07:57
ubotuKrishnautix: I don't know07:57
drcurlompaul, it is lan connection, high speed07:57
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butcherbirdwoodgrain: do you mean alt-ctrl-arrowbttn or alt-ctrl-f2 etc?07:58
!lilo:*! Hi all. Macworld Expo SF channel: ##macworld07:58
drcurlsynaptic use 50% cpu!07:58
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ompauldrcurl, on how big a machine?07:58
drcurlompaul, centrino 1.4GhZ, 256 ram07:58
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pflanzeHello. For some reason, the ubuntu ppc live CD hangs after starting X. The kernel works fine (I can move the mouse pointer), but nothing happens anymore.07:59
woodgrainbutcherbird, no to go from one gnome desktop to another.08:00
ompauldrcurl, it seems to me it is making too much of a load, any chance you could paste the output of /etc/apt/sources.list into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org08:00
drcurlompaul, just a sec08:01
woodgrainbutcherbird, actually, meta-ctrl-arrows works.  But is there a on-keyboard version of this?08:01
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woodgrainwoodgrain, using arrows is against my religion08:01
butcherbirdwoodgrain: sorry dunno dont use gnome very much lately08:01
woodgrainbutcherbird,  you up in that kDe?08:01
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malefestragnome == system hog.08:02
butcherbirdwoodgrain: xfce mostly08:02
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drcurlompaul, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/685008:03
woodgrainbutcherbird, xfce -- is that okay with ubuntu?08:03
Pygiubotu tell woodgrain about xubuntu08:03
ompauldrcurl, looking at it give me a min08:03
drcurlok, thanks ompaul08:03
drcurlI just enable universe08:03
lowman62Ctrl+Alt left or right arrow moves through desktops08:03
butcherbirdwoodgrain: im liking it.08:03
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Pygilowman: but not too fast :P08:04
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lowman62:P08:04
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Pygiyw08:04
lowman62does on mine..fly's08:04
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woodgrainbutcherbird, do you reinstall ubuntu for this or can you just synaptic it?08:04
Pygilowman: well, I just did it, and X server froze :P08:04
Pygiwoodgrain: just use synaptic08:04
drcurlompaul, I closed synaptic and re-opened it, it seems better now08:04
lowman62Pygi: ouch08:05
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drcurlbut openoffice, on the other hand, takes forever to load08:05
Pygilowman: I guess the cause behind it is Xorg 7 :/08:05
butcherbirdwoodgrain: no reinstall just apt-get u can switch between them08:05
Pygilowman: I'll install Y server :P08:05
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lowman62Pygi: :P08:05
Pygilowman: ever tried Y server? :P08:05
lowman62Pygi: no never08:06
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lowman62Pygi: ave never heard of it08:06
Pygilowman: well, then better don't try it :P At least for now :)08:06
Evodawgany Mplayer folks in here?08:06
ompauldrcurl, just a moment there are some things in there that you might consider changing08:06
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ompaulSeveas, msg?08:06
lowman62*feels something pulling his leg*08:06
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_jasonEvodawg, yes, you can ask a question and we can try to help you08:06
ompauldrcurl, before you do you should back that file up08:06
drcurlompaul, ok08:07
Evodawg_jason:  Im getting slow video on playback08:07
Evodawgand jitter08:07
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_jasonEvodawg, playback of what08:07
lowman62Evodawg: enable dma08:07
levanderIs xfce supposed to be lighter weight than gnome?08:07
EvodawgI did08:07
Evodawgdvd08:07
ompaullevander, it is08:07
malefestralevander - yes08:08
Pygilevander: yup08:08
levanderwhen does xubuntu come out?  is that with dapper?08:08
Pygilevander: blackbox is more lighter :)08:08
Pygilevander: xubuntu is already out...08:08
sorush20is unmakirq a good idea ?08:08
Pygiit just doesn't have a ISO08:08
ompauldrcurl, if I was you I would remove the reference to the cdrom at the top of the file - open up the two universe sec repos on the bottom08:08
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drcurlompaul, ok, for security :)08:08
ompaulyeap08:09
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Evodawgwondering If I should have compiled the mplayer stuff instead of using urpmi08:09
malefestraevodawg - what kind of machine?08:09
ompaulthey will give you updates if they become available for the universe repos08:09
levanderPygi: only reason i'm interested in xfce is because it sounds like a lot of configuration work has already been accomplished with ubuntu, haven't heard the same thing about blackbox08:09
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mark__!easysource08:09
Evodawgman 200608:09
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:09
_jasonEvodawg, what is urpmi?08:09
Pygilevander: well, true :P but blackbox is the lightest wm ever :P or is it?08:09
Pygiyou can just use WM, no need for desktop manager :P08:10
malefestraPygi - still waiting for e17...08:10
levanderPygi: you know how far along the xubuntu-desktop package is?  just wondering how mature that package is08:10
Evodawg_jason: its a rpm source08:10
drcurlompaul, thanks, is it normal that openoffice is very slow startup?08:10
Pygimalefestra: ah, well...08:10
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malefestraheh :)08:10
Pygilevander: well, it is mature for daily use08:10
ompauldrcurl, other things are you lack multiverse if you are true gnu you don't want them but if you do you should put it on the end of *only the first* line of universe half way up the file08:10
Evodawgits kinda like cvs08:10
lowman62Evodawg: run this if it exists... /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh08:10
_jasonEvodawg, why aren't you using the mplayer package in the repositories?08:10
levanderPygi: you know how mature compared to kubuntu-desktop?08:10
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Evodawgurpmi is easier08:11
zimhi all08:11
Pygilevander: well, considering it's less maintained, it's not that mature...but everything works...08:11
zimhow can i change the color scheme in vim ?08:11
lowman62Evodawg: that sped mine up08:11
lowman62;P08:11
ompauldrcurl, with those hardware specs yes, in fact it could be said that it is a dog at starting up but not bad at all once opened I have been editing a single doc here for the last few hours on and off as I review and recreate it and no issue and my box is of similar power to yours08:11
Seveaszim, :colorscheme blue08:12
Seveas(or any other scheme)08:12
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Pygior rainbow scheme :P08:12
Evodawglowman62:  no such file or directory08:12
ompaulSeveas, question >>> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse << that would not work for multiverse am I correct in that08:12
zimty08:12
drcurlompaul, ok, thank you again :)08:12
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lowman62I believe that came with gxine08:13
malefestraEvodawg - did you install libdvdread3?08:13
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Evodawgthought I did08:13
Seveasompaul, you're not08:13
Pygi!info libdvdread308:13
Evodawghold on will now08:13
ubotulibdvdread3: (Simple foundation for reading DVDs), section libs, is optional. Version: 0.9.4-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 52 kB, Installed size: 176 kB08:13
ompauldrcurl, when the edit is finished on the command line run this >> sudo apt-get update<<08:13
stevr1ithi some problem with gaim08:13
Pygio, well, don't use gaim :))))08:13
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stevr1iti was trying to send a file with it but i crashed08:14
ompaulSeveas, ahh I did not know that08:14
max_cI need to make it so I can write to my shared fat32 partition in Ubuntu. Can anyone tell me how to do this?08:14
stevr1itand now i cannot open it, can you help me?08:14
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Pygiconsidering that gaim is bad, not a problem :))08:14
stevr1iti was reinstalling it08:14
Seveasstevr1it, run 'gaim' in the terminal08:14
Pygijoking :P reconfigure it08:14
AIVI want to install a demo version of an app, it comes as an RPM08:14
ompaulSeveas, or to rephrase it - I do now :)08:14
Seveaswhat does that do>08:14
Seveas?08:14
mark__can anyone tell me where the sources list is stored?08:14
stevr1itcould you telll me how08:14
Seveasmark__, /etc/apt/08:14
_jasonstevr1it, ps aux | grep gaim08:14
Pygi/etc/apt/sources.list08:14
AIVwhere can I find ubuntu specific docs on how to do this08:14
mark__thx08:14
malefestramax_c what happens when you try to write to it?08:14
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SeveasAIV, rpm's are bad, but you could try alien -i filename.rpm08:15
Evodawgmalefestra:  shows it's already installed08:15
turixhmm X still wont start at startup08:15
turixseriously what's up with that? :p08:15
Pygihuh, not the RPM :/08:15
Pygiturix: what's the issue?08:15
AIVSeveas, why are rpm's bad?08:15
stevr1ithere si the answer:  ps aux | grep gaim08:15
LoPMX84am i wrong or dapper's X server is much faster using xcompmgr?08:15
AIVSeveas, am I better off getting it as a tar?08:15
max_cmalefestra: it says I do not have permission to write to the folder08:15
Pygicause they are the cause of most dependency hells :P08:15
stevr1itsorry wait08:15
sk8erboyi cant get online using my wireless network card , ican connect to the router login but i cant get web pages up08:15
stevr1ithere it is: root      8180  0.0  0.1   3092   804 pts/1    R+   20:15   0:00 grep gaim08:15
stevr1itany idea?08:16
malefestraEvodawg - interesting... but no sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh?08:16
Seveasstevr1it, why are you running gaim as root ?!?!08:16
_jasonstevr1it, try what Seveas suggested.  Type 'gaim' in a terminal and see what happens08:16
Evodawglet me do a whereis08:16
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Seveasah nvm, that was grep :)08:16
stevr1itok08:16
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PygiSeveas: lol :P08:16
Seveasstevr1it, why are you running that as root?08:16
athlonj #firefox08:16
turixand everytime i try to open "add applications" and the "package manager" i get "Failed to run /usr/bin/gnome-app-install as user root:08:16
turix Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file."08:16
athlonoops08:16
stevr1iti was runnin it form ubuntu normallyu08:16
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malefestramax_c: it's a permissions issue...try reading this: http://catcode.com/teachmod/08:17
turixwhat's with that?08:17
Pygiubotu, tell turix about root08:17
stevr1itsorry  i was running. where do i find a terminal?08:17
Pygiubotu, tell turix about kdesu08:17
Pygiubotu, tell turix about gksudo08:17
stevr1iti am quite a beginner08:17
_jasonstevr1it, accessories08:17
C-O-L-Thello does exist a program for linux which can modify pdf files?08:17
Pygiin applications, accesories08:17
malefestraif you can't figure it out, give me a /msg and let me know. :)  i'll help you more.08:17
monziehi all08:17
SeveasC-O-L-T, yes, but no equivalent to adobe acrobat08:17
max_cmalefestra: I've tried chmod on the folders already but I still couldn't wriet to it. I was wondering if I have to do something with fdisk08:18
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C-O-L-TSeveas: I just need to modify a pdf file and print it08:18
turixPygi, what shall i do then?08:18
stevr1itnothing appears08:18
C-O-L-TSeveas: a formular08:18
Evodawgmalefestra:  you takin to me08:18
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malefestraEvo - yes08:18
Pygiturix: ubotu told u08:18
malefestrawell, not the last line or two08:18
malefestra;)08:18
sk8erboycan someone help08:18
woodgrainHow can I merge two text files (one after the other) on the command line?08:18
stevr1itin the terminal nothis appears after :  ps aux | grep gaim08:19
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Evodawgmalefestra:  let me go do some rootin around and I'll get back08:19
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C-O-L-TSeveas:???????08:19
stevr1itit still does not works08:19
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malefestraEvo - alright08:19
Seveaswoodgrain, cat file1 file2 > file308:19
PygiC-O-L-T: he's lost :P08:19
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stevr1itit appears the page with the aDRESS BUT BLOKED08:20
stevr1itin the terminal no result at all08:20
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woodgrainSeveas, thx so much!08:20
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stevr1itwhere shoul i look?08:20
stevr1itshould?08:20
malefestraEvodawg - alright, it's kinda weird that you don't have that script08:20
lowman62very wierd08:20
C-O-L-TPygi: does exist a program for linux that allows me to modify pdf file?08:20
stevr1itjason any suggestion?08:21
_jasonstevr1it, did 'gaim' tell you anything?08:21
stevr1itnothing08:21
turixPygi, how should i for example open the package manager?08:21
malefestramax_c is the partition mounted?08:21
sethkwoodgrain, it helps to remember what the command names mean.  you want to concatenate files, so you use the concatenate command which is cat08:21
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Pygiturix: use "gksudo synaptic"08:22
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max_cmalefestra, Yes. I can read files from it.08:22
ubuntuhjhj08:22
stevr1itit opens an start to enter and it stops, appears some adresses and after a white page08:22
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turixPygi,  but isn't there anyway i can fix this thing?08:22
ubuntufix what08:22
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turixstill going thru System>>Administration>>synaptic...08:23
stevr1iti have 3 commections: msn, messenger and icq on it08:23
LuckyLukere all. I wanted to know, if I install from the official ubuntu iso doing a 'server' install and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, do I obtain the same thing as installing from the kubuntu-desktop?08:23
LuckyLukefrom the kubuntu cd, I meant.08:23
Pygiturix: well, use "apt-get"08:23
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stevr1itis there anythig else i can do?08:23
ubuntuyes08:23
Evodawgmalefestra:  I have the file /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3-0.9.4 but no examples/install-css.sh08:23
LuckyLukeubuntu: was that 'yes' for me? :)08:23
sethkLuckyLuke, no.  if you do the regular (not server) install, then yes08:23
malefestraEvodawg - did you get libdvdread3 by sudo apt-get install libdvdread3?  or from elsewhere?08:23
sethkLuckyLuke, but if you want a desktop, you don't do the server install.08:24
PygiColt: you could openoffice to import pdf file....08:24
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sethkLuckyLuke, I realize you are trying to short circuit gnome, but that's not the way to do it08:24
LuckyLukesethk: if I do the regular I get lots of gnome stuff I would prefer to leave out08:24
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sethkLuckyLuke, yes, but unfortunately you also get a bunch of stuff that you need.08:24
LuckyLukeok thanks for the info08:24
Evodawgmalefestra:  got it thru a urpmi source08:24
stevr1itjason any sugegstion? it sees corrupted but i have reinsatlled it already08:24
sethkLuckyLuke, you have the kubuntu cd built to do exactly what you want, so why not use it?08:24
LuckyLukeI was just trying to go on without downloading another iso :D08:24
turixbut seriously the one thing i want to get rid of is "Failed to run /usr/bin/gnome-app-install as user root:08:25
turix Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file."08:25
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malefestramax_c: sudo chmod a+rxw08:25
turixhow to get rid of that error message?08:25
XTRHi. I have an Ubuntu Live CD loaded, and I installed sshd. What username/password do I use to ssh to the machine?08:25
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LuckyLukeand we have lots of this oh-so-cool "original" ubuntu CDs at our lug, we give them to people, but people often asks us for kde...08:25
malefestraEvodawg - try getting it with apt-get, that might be your problem.08:25
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PygiLuckyLuke: well, kubuntu will ship with dapper....08:25
Evodawgmalefestra:  I will thanks08:25
Pygiin ship-it08:25
LuckyLukePygi: that's cool, many thanks for the info08:26
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stevr1itsorry: i have tried from the terminal and the reuslt: stefano   8470  0.0  0.1   3096   796 pts/1    R+   20:25   0:00 grep gaim08:26
PygiLuckyLuke: yw08:26
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stevr1itjason?08:26
stevr1itany suggestion?08:26
Pygi!patience08:26
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.08:26
Pygithank you08:26
stevr1itok08:26
cello_rasphow do i install perl modules?08:26
stevr1itsorry08:26
_nullWhy cant I write to a remote folder (Gnome VFS) with gedit?08:27
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Pygidieffel: please remove public away messages08:27
Pygithank you08:27
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captainredbeardis there any kind of remove control I could get for my pc, to use to control music/video playback?08:27
SteveAhello.  would someone tell me what irc channel the community council meets on?  it isn't on the wiki page  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda  nor http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/council08:27
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Pygi#ubuntu-meeting08:28
ompauldieffel, please don't do that there are 651 people here, if they all did that what would it be like08:28
rocketman327I'm trying to use xconfig (or even menuconfig) but I can't install libncurses-dev or libqt4-dev08:28
SteveAthanks Pygi08:28
Pygiyw08:28
malefestraheh, didn't realize how many people were here.  crazy.08:28
MrPocketsif i have a program,but i dont know where it is, say Xine, is there a command that will run it ?08:28
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MrPocketsnevermind08:28
Pygiwell, guess what is it :) run "xine" :)08:28
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LuckyLukeMrPockets: dpkg -l xine | grep bin could help08:28
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lowman62xine08:28
MrPocketsnope,  it was just "xine"08:28
Pygiwell I told you to run just "xine" lol :P08:29
LuckyLukeor something like that...08:29
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_jasonLuckyLuke,  capital L right?08:29
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lowman62and in console ... xine & <--to seperate it from the console08:29
MrPocketsthank you Pygi08:29
LuckyLuke_jason: probably. It's a lot of time I don't use dpkg anymore...08:29
rocketman327so anyone got any idea why I can't install libncurses-dev or libqt4-dev08:29
Pygiyw08:29
stevr1itJason don't forget about me. i wait if you can help me08:29
hannyaalguien habla espaol08:29
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Pygirocketman: any error?08:29
Pygihannya: #ubuntu-es08:30
hannyaok08:30
Pygiplease talk english here08:30
Pygithanks08:30
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PygiSeveas: that's your job, isn't it? :P08:30
rocketman327Pygi: well libqt2-dev says there are lots of depends that aren't installable and the other one says it doesn't exist08:30
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Pygirocketman: wha ubuntu? breezy?08:31
Pygiand why would you want devel files for qt2? there is already qt4 you know :P08:31
rocketman327Pygi: yea, I just moved from gentoo and i'm trying ubuntu breezy on my lappie08:31
malefestramax_c - is it working?08:31
thegladiators_spiff, your name is krishna ?,08:31
Pygiafk08:31
rocketman327Pygi: sorry, that was a typo, its 408:31
stevr1itanyone has experience in gaim crash?08:31
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s_spiffno re08:32
malefestrano stevr08:32
s_spiff I go to the ISKCON temple here ..08:32
s_spiff there there is the alblum by TKJ [ rock dude ] ...name Krishnautix08:32
stevr1itany substitute of gaim working with ubuntu?08:32
s_spiff I liked the name08:32
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LuckyLukePygi: while I download kubuntu iso, I would like to better understand this. Differences between (gnome) ubuntu and (kde) kubuntu are only in the default set of installed packages? if it is so, isn't there a catch-all-with-deps empty package to get a full kubuntu installed on any kind of running ubuntu? (maybe with other stuff in there, like gnome+kde when you install kubuntu-desktop on a plain ubuntu)08:32
lowman62stevrlit : I think kopete08:33
s_spiffstevr1it, I wud suggest download aMSN... and Yahoo Messenger08:33
rocketman327Pygi: I'm really just trying to compile my own kernel...08:33
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stevr1itbut for icq?08:33
s_spiff kopete doesn't as such work with gnome...unless u download some other files with it08:33
s_spiff for icq..there are various messengeres08:33
lowman62stevrlit: licq08:33
LuckyLukestevr1it: I use kopete and it's really good, but gaim is ok also. I just choose gaim for gnome and kopete for kde08:33
stevr1itit does not work08:33
s_spiff go to Synaptic ..and search for ICQ08:33
LuckyLukestevr1it: both gaim and kopete do icq08:33
s_spiff take your pick08:33
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stevr1itkopete? i try08:34
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s_spiffstevr1it, try, but first i would reccoment to search Synaptic for ICQ, you'll have a lot of options08:34
LuckyLukeI use AIM, ICQ and MSN on both kopete and gaim, they both work great!08:34
stevr1itgmail doen't work anymore here08:34
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max_cmalefestra: no, "chmod: too few arguments"08:34
s_spiff gmail doesnt work as in?08:34
MrPocketshow can i download the DVD decorders for Xine to play Avi or DVDs?08:34
s_spiff MrPockets please open the help file..08:35
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s_spiff and read Starter Guide>Installation08:35
LuckyLukeMrPockets: they are probably available as xine-something08:35
s_spiff or read on wiki..08:35
l-bigbossMrPockets> ubuntuguide.org08:35
_nullDoes anyone know a gedit 2.13 package for breezy?08:35
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stevr1iti am downloading kopete08:36
malefestramax_c: where is it mounted at?08:36
lowman62it comes with gedit08:36
stevr1itbut i wonder what has happened08:36
stevr1ithow can i know it?08:36
rocketman327I'm really starting to find gentoo easier when I want to do anything besides having a basic working computer... I get no errors, just08:36
rocketman327The following packages have unmet dependencies:08:36
rocketman327  libqt4-dev: Depends: xlibs-dev (>= 4.2.1) but it is not installable08:36
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max_cmalefestra: /media/hda208:36
Evodawgstevr1it:  gaim is better08:36
s_spiff MrPockets , check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28Media%29%7C%28Formats%2908:36
DoidoE aew blz08:36
rocketman327and it won't tell me why its not installable... just that it isn't08:36
stevr1itbut it chrash08:36
stevr1itcrash08:36
stevr1iti cannot open it anymore08:37
malefestramax_c: sudo chmod a+rxw /media/hda208:37
lowman62kopete08:37
Doidoalguem aque fala brasileiro08:37
stevr1itevodaw any suggestion on how to have it working again?08:37
rocketman327stevr1it: try reinstalling it?  or does it open on a different user?08:37
s_spiffstevr1it, what crashed?08:37
stevr1iti dit it already08:37
stevr1itgaim08:37
Evodawgstevr1it:  I use gaim so no I wounldnt08:37
s_spiffohh ok.08:37
rocketman327stevr1it: did what already?08:38
stevr1iti have tryed to send a file and after that i caould not open it anymore08:38
stevr1itreinstall it08:38
stevr1iti di reinstall it already08:38
rocketman327stevr1it: did you try it with a different user?08:38
stevr1ithow?08:38
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stevr1iti don't know how08:38
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malefestraEvodawg - sudo apt-get work?08:38
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Evodawgmalefestra:   I dont have apt-get08:39
stevr1itwhen i open it with ubuntu it goes already o the previous users?08:39
Evodawgso I'm looking at the mplayer site08:39
kameronEvodawg, sudo apt-get install apt-get :P08:39
rocketman327stevr1it: well your user data could've been corrupted... if you don't have a multi user system you could delete the .gaim folder and see if gaim runs and reinitializes itself08:39
lowman62LOL08:39
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lounisHi, is there ndiswrapper in ubuntu live-cd?08:39
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-lilo(i=levin@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin)- [Server Notice] Hi all. The server you're on, brown.freenode.net, has been removed from rotation and will be restarted for maintenance on a non-urgent basis. Please help us get there a bit sooner by disconnecting and reconnecting to chat.freenode.net when you get a moment.... thanks!08:40
stevr1itwhere i can fint the folder?08:40
rocketman327in your home directory08:40
stevr1itunser......08:40
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malefestrakameron - heh08:40
stevr1itunder ...which folder08:40
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rocketman327like mine is under   "/home/jbbowen/.gaim"08:40
lowman62stevrlit: cd .gaim08:40
malefestramax_c: how hangs it?08:41
freak_do you set the startup programs the same in ubuntu 5.10 as in Debian 3.1?08:41
stevr1itwhat cd .gaim?08:41
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lowman62obouy08:41
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rocketman327ok so no one can tell my why ubuntu doesn't want to install libqt4-dev?08:41
LoPMXhow can i install thunderbird 1.5 rc on ubuntu?08:41
rocketman327stevr1it: whats your main user?08:41
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max_cMalefestra: No go. It seems to run the command but doesn't change my permissions when I look the properties of the drive.08:42
_jasonstevr1it, just do 'mv ~/.gaim ~/.gaim.backup' and try opening gaim08:42
s_spiffLoPMX, check out on wiki08:42
thegladiatorwhats the package name for kde developer tools?08:42
s_spiff there should be something about thunderbird installation08:42
malefestrainteresting08:42
stevr1iti was using gaim with msn messenger and icq08:42
freak_LoPMX, check synaptics08:42
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rocketman327_jason: thanks.  thats what I should've said08:42
s_spiffthegladiator, search on synaptic08:42
cozanyone here ever try the application "synfig"?08:42
s_spifffreak_, synaptic doesn't offer RC packages08:42
malefestramax_c: do ls -lg | grep hda208:42
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malefestratell me what it spits out08:42
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s_spiff coz whats 'synfig'?08:42
cozs_spiff film quality animation app08:43
Madeyeguys, is there any tutorial for creating local repos ?08:43
freak_s_spiff, RC packages?08:43
thegladiators_spiff, for kdevelop - i see kdevelop 3?08:43
thegladiatorbut is that it ?08:43
rocketman327so no one has any clue when a package won't install?08:43
s_spiffread the description na..08:43
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stevr1itit does not work anyway08:43
thegladiatorkdevelop3 and if ys does it support python etc ?08:43
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s_spiffrocketman327, try the forums..08:43
cozrocketman327 what application?08:43
rocketman327s_spiff: thanks08:43
rocketman327coz: libqt4-dev08:44
LoPMXok thanks08:44
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s_spiffi'm a noob myself, so can't help much with the commands..08:44
cozhold on i will check08:44
_jasonrocketman327, what error do you get08:44
thegladiatornp i am my way installing kdevelop3 lets see08:44
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rocketman327The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libqt4-dev: Depends: xlibs-dev (>= 4.2.1) but it is not installable08:44
thegladiatorthat shdu be i08:44
thegladiatorit*08:44
rocketman327and such08:44
thegladiators_spiff, from ?08:44
MrPocketscan gobox burn CDs, or only rip them?08:44
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XTROh hi. I've installed sshd on my Ubuntu Live session. Now what user account/password do I use to login to it?08:44
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thegladiators_spiff, kahan se ho ?08:44
s_spifffrom what?08:44
s_spiffmumbai yaar08:44
s_spiffi prefer to call it bombay :P08:45
_jasonrocketman327, pastebin your sources.list08:45
thegladiators_spiff, great yaar ! he he08:45
jendaMrPockets: read, I think. Use serpuntine for audio08:45
thegladiatorme too08:45
jendaMrPockets: *serpentine08:45
freak_s_spiff, so "update-rc.d *program* 345 start ." won't work?08:45
thegladiatorkidhar ? exactly ?08:45
stevr1itno result08:45
malefestramax_c: you there?08:45
rocketman327_jason: i'm new to ubuntu from gentoo... where can I find that file?08:45
stevr1itit does not work at all08:45
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cozrocketman327 they are in synaptic what errors do yu get08:45
_jasonrocketman327, /etc/apt/sources.list08:45
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rocketman327_jason: thanks08:45
Crema10i had a problem last night, I installed xine and win32codecs to watch DVD... everything started fine until I got a msg that said that the DVD was restricted or something, not enough something, i forget08:45
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stevr1itjason08:46
thegladiatorlibqt4 is there in synaptic08:46
Crema10the DVD was Start Wars III08:46
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MrPocketsdoes serpentine come with Ubuntu?08:46
freak_Crema10, check the DVD region08:46
cozCrema10 I need to know what the something is08:46
s_spifffreak_, no clue with commands boss08:46
thegladiatorno I guess MrPockets08:46
XTRStar Wars is rated R.08:46
rocketman327deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy universe08:46
rocketman327just this08:46
lowman62Crema10: run this if it exists... /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh08:46
s_spiffthegladiator, wher r u from?08:46
Crema10coz: ok.. but i'll have to try again when i get back home08:46
_jasonrocketman327, well there is your problem :)08:46
thegladiatorMrPockets, not sur but I have it08:47
_jasonubotu, tell rocketman327 about easysource08:47
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cozhow long will that be08:47
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thegladiatorMrPockets, check out at distro wacth it shows the packages08:47
Crema10hmmm not till 11pm EST  :(08:47
Crema10i have school later today after work08:47
thegladiators_spiff, cochin yaar08:47
cozOk I will be here then08:47
Crema10until 10:30 P.M.08:47
Crema10ok cool!08:47
thegladiators_spiff, where in mum exactly ?08:47
Crema10thansk coz :)08:47
cozNo problem08:47
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rocketman327_jason: awesome dude!08:47
s_spiffandheri08:47
_jasonrocketman327, take a look at what a regular one looks like (ubotu will send you a link)08:47
Crema10i'll try to remember what lowman62 wrote also08:47
thegladiators_spiff, east / west ?  :)08:48
_jasonubotu, tell rocketman327 about sources08:48
lowman62;)08:48
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thegladiators_spiff, anyways good yaar . nice place to stay08:48
cozOk again anyone ever thru synfig08:48
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s_spiffhehe08:48
cozever try synfig08:49
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s_spiff east08:49
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DaSkreec1Hello08:49
djlilyaziwhen i try to access system---admin---and any of the tools there08:49
djlilyazii can08:49
djlilyazicant08:49
s_spiff coz why don't you try the forums?08:49
djlilyazieven after i put the password nothing happens08:49
djlilyaziwhat can i do to slove it ?08:49
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DaSkreec1Why would Firefox tell me that the Java Plugin must be installed manually?08:49
cozs_spiff nothing aviable that i could see there is even a synfig channel with 8 people there who never answer08:49
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unuhello08:50
_jasondjlilyazi, does sudo work?08:50
unui upgraded from warty08:50
s_spiffyeah...so start a new thread on forums..08:50
djlilyazi_jason, no08:50
_jasonubotu, tell DaSkreec1 about java08:50
s_spiff someone will surely reply!08:50
lowman62http://wiki.synfig.com/Main_Page08:50
djlilyazi_jason, its like i have no permisiion to do anything08:50
thegladiatorUnu gr8 and breezy is better ?08:50
cozlowmand62 i will look08:50
_jasondjlilyazi, are you using the user account you created when you installed ubuntu?  and has sudo ever worked?08:50
cozno been there done that08:50
unuthegladiator: no ads please :) i'm an ubu user for ~8 months now08:50
thegladiatorubotu, tell gladiator about python08:50
djlilyazi_jason, oh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh ofcourse08:51
unui keep on forgetting how to authenticate packages :)08:51
djlilyazi_jason, what did u want me to try ?08:51
s_spiffwhat did he advert?08:51
unubecause hoary & breezy use apt key or somethin'08:51
DaSkreec1_jason: Just to be clear Blackdown installs a Mozilla plugin?08:51
rocketman327_jason: awesome, thanks so much08:51
s_spiffany idea when the dapper is gonna be released?08:51
_jasonDaSkreec1, I believe so08:51
unu6.04 :)08:52
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thegladiators_spiff, april 2008:52
DaSkreec1_jason: Thanks08:52
unu2006.0408:52
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_nullIs there any way to tell this gnome file chooser dialog to remember it's size?08:52
_jasondjlilyazi, so yes it is your first account and sudo has worked in the past?08:52
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thegladiatormy adept is crashing of late can mem seg faults cause this problem ?  it happens at the fag end of the installtion process ?08:52
thegladiatormy mem has a few problems08:52
djlilyazi_jason, yeah that is correct08:52
fusionfoxis there a way to resume apt-get downloads if it gets interrupted??08:52
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unuInstall these packages without verification [y/N] ? y08:53
unuok, how do i get rid of this?08:53
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lowman62y08:53
AndyRlo all08:53
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_jasondjlilyazi, what happens when you try a command with sudo? anything?  try: sudo echo hi08:53
unui did several upgrades to breezy, but i always forget :)08:53
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djlilyazi_jason, nothing happend08:53
DaSkreec1CanYouHelpMePlz: Nice Nick08:53
_jasondjlilyazi, sudo -K, then try again08:54
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djlilyazi_jason, how do i check what type of user i am ?08:54
CanYouHelpMePlzDaSkreec1: thanks08:54
stefano_kopete works but it is quite worst than gaim08:54
_jasondjlilyazi, what do you mean?08:54
stefano_i mean that if gaim doe not work on my laptop i have to use kopete08:54
djlilyazi_jason, i dont know i think i am just very frsutrated...sorry...08:54
lowman62stefano_: what do you use it for? yahoo or what??08:54
jouni__mfusionfox apt-get upgrade if you are upgrading08:55
djlilyazi_jason, sudo -K did nothing08:55
stefano_for work, msn yahoo and icq08:55
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coNPstefano_: what is the problem with gaim?08:55
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lowman62stefano_: how come gaim is not working?08:55
stefano_conp the proble is that it crashs08:55
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fusionfoxjouni__m, (O_o)??? what...??08:55
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stefano_after the first moment it stops and appears a white page08:56
_jasondjlilyazi, ok you are going to have to post the contents of /etc/sudoers.  To do that though you need superuser priveleges.  If you can't get them, pop in a livecd and mount your drive to access it.08:56
thegladiatordoes Xchat use GTK can it be configured for KDE ?08:56
lowman62stefano_: delete your local .gaim folder or rename it and start it should not crash no more08:56
AndyRdoes anyone know why the fglrx xserver wont do new logins?08:56
stefano_i have tryed to find it. do you know where it could be?08:56
tiomoanyone in here can help me with ndiswrapper stabilility issues? my notebook is hard crashing continuously...08:56
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drcurlI'm having some problems with dvipdf, I get this error: "cmr17 not found..." and the resulting fonts in pdf are ugly08:56
coNPstefano_: breezy?08:56
stefano_yes08:56
jouni__mfusionfox downloaded files are saved to /var/cache/apt/archives. just continnue.08:56
djlilyazi_jason, so i do sudo .etc/sudoers ?08:56
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_jasondjlilyazi, before we do that, paste what the command 'groups' returns08:57
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lowman62stefano_: open console and do this ... mv .gaim .gaim.backup08:57
stefano_where it could be under breezy?08:57
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lowman62stefano_: open console and do this ... mv .gaim .gaim.backup08:57
djlilyazi_jason, this is what it gave me yasmeen dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner08:57
stefano_i did it laready . but nothing08:57
lowman62stefano_: then start gaim08:57
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stefano_i did it08:57
stefano_no result08:58
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lowman62stefano_: reinstall it then08:58
_jasondjlilyazi, no 'admin' group.  That's the problem08:58
stefano_already done08:58
stefano_twice08:58
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djlilyazi_jason, WOOOOOOW UR RIGHT !!08:58
stefano_under wchich folder it can be?08:58
lowman62stefano_: *shrugs* your a mess08:58
djlilyazi_jason, so my live cd will solve this for me ?08:58
saifwhats Synaptic?08:59
_jasondjlilyazi, you don't have any other users?  yeah we cna use the livecd08:59
CanYouHelpMePlz!tell saif about synaptic08:59
stefano_what doe sit means08:59
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djlilyazi_jason, so what do i do when i put the live cd ?08:59
JeremyPrivettHey guys, I need some serious help. X has crapped out on me and I can't get logged in.08:59
stefano_shrugh what does it means?08:59
JeremyPrivetthttp://www.omegavortex.com/xsession-errors.txt08:59
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JeremyPrivettThat's the error I'm receiving.08:59
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sorush20I'm unable to permanently set the hdparm for my hda, I am configureing the hdparm.conf file but on reboot the settings have not been loaded any ideas? here is my hdparm config file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/685109:00
lowman62stefano_: *shrugs*09:00
_jasondjlilyazi, the file we want to look at is: /etc/group.  You can read it.  Take a look at it now09:00
stefano_what does it mean. I am italian09:00
lowman62stefano_: *shrugs*  means i don't know09:00
stefano_ok09:00
stefano_sorry09:00
stefano_ thank you09:00
lowman62np ;)09:00
JeremyPrivettI'm currently in a recovery console ... So, I can't see much.09:00
zimhi all i have a server install of ubuntu and would like some better colors by default in vim what do i do09:00
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ExdaixHey guys, I have totem-xine install, libdvdcss2 and libdvdread3 installed, but encrypted commercial DVD's won't play. I've tried VLC, Ogle, you name it.  Nothing works.  Any ideas?09:01
JeremyPrivettAnyone?09:01
djlilyazi_jason, thank you jason at least i  know what is my problem09:01
djlilyazi_jason, u have beensooooooooo much help09:01
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djlilyazi_jason, i have to go to work but thank you for ur help09:01
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lowman62Exdaix: run this if it exists... /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh09:01
MrPocketsi just want to thank you fellas.  i really epreciate all the help you guys offer.09:01
Exdaixlowman62: yea I've tried that09:02
jouni__mJeremyPrivett try startx with normal user as workaround09:02
_jasondjlilyazi, np, just add yourself to the admin group in that file09:02
MaDSeNI get constant error 16 when Grub is loading09:02
JeremyPrivettYes. I already know that works.09:02
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lowman62Exdaix: what happens exactly?09:02
JeremyPrivettBut, I'm not looking for a workaround.09:02
JeremyPrivettI need a solution.09:02
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fr0xI cannot view  WMV on web, I am getting this error:09:02
fr0xYou are currently not using Microsoft Internet Explorer.09:02
fr0xFor smoother operation, we recommend using Microsoft Internet Explorer with Microsoft Windows Media Player.09:02
fr0xHowever, you can still play the CastUP media item by clicking the link below:09:02
ZiX_hi all, i want to network from ubuntu to gentoo with NFS, any idea how?09:02
fr0xAnyone has any idea how can I fix it?09:02
_jasonfr0x, click the link below?09:02
zimhi all i have a server install of ubuntu and would like some better colors by default in vim what do i do09:02
stevr1itsorry last question. I have found the folder of gaim, howw can i cahnge now the permission to delete it?09:03
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coNPZiX_: do you want to see ubuntu-hosted things in gentoo?09:03
fr0x_jason, it opens me a save dialog with a file named gm.asp09:03
_jasonstevr1it, what folder exactly do you want to delete09:03
Exdaixlowman62: for example, I put in a DVD, fire up totem and tell it to play the DVD... it goes through to the menu, but when I tell it to play the movie it gtells me "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?"09:03
stevr1itgaim09:03
fr0x_jason, nothing to do with this file09:03
karlwrkwhat's the easiest way to get 2.6.15 kernel source with the ubuntu patches?09:03
coNPkarlwrk: wait :)09:04
jouni__mJeremyPrivett just guessing: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm09:04
lowman62Exdaix: try this here http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/chap10.php#video <--I had the same prob09:04
_jasonfr0x, you can use the 'user agent switcher' extension for firefox to trick it into thinking you are using IE but that may or may not let you view the video anyway09:04
stevr1itetc/gaim09:04
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karlwrkcoNP: that's not really the answer I wanted to hear :)09:04
zimsudo stevr1it  rm -Rf dir09:04
karlwrkit can't be that hard, or at least, it shouldn't09:04
zimstevr1it  sudo rm -Rf dir09:04
_jasonstevr1it, you don't want to do that09:04
stevr1itwhy?09:04
karlwrkI only ask because my own 2.6.15 doesn't give me any sound for some reason09:04
fr0x_jason, how can I do this user agent switcher?09:04
_jasonstevr1it, remove it with synaptic and make sure you select for 'complete removal'09:04
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lowman62stevrlit: that is not the one to delete09:05
Exdaixlowman62: the codecs?09:05
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zimtrue09:05
stevr1itjason i did it already09:05
lowman62Exdaix: yes09:05
Exdaixlowman62: ok thanks ill give it a shot09:05
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coNPkarlwrk: dapper has 2.6.15 source and I think some image too, if you really need it, you might try it09:05
lowman62Exdaix: yw :)09:05
_jasonfr0x, https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=5909:05
karlwrkI was hoping for a more general procedure :)09:05
stevr1itit says command not found , in root of course09:06
zimstevr1it  ok then if its just cleaning up old conf file      sudo rm -Rf dir09:06
lowman62Exdaix: run that script again after you install the codecs09:06
karlwrkit seems that ubuntu makes it extremely difficult to use your own kernel09:06
coNPkarlwrk: more general?09:06
stevr1iti did it09:06
coNPkarlwrk: I use my own 2.6.14, without patches without problems09:06
stevr1itbut it answer command not found09:06
karlwrkalternatively, I have a kernel I built from 2.6.15, it works in general, but I have no sound09:06
zimcan anyone helpme with my Q09:06
zimhi all i have a server install of ubuntu and would like some better colors by default in vim what do i do09:06
karlwrkI have no idea why my sound disappeared though :(09:06
MaDSeNI get constant error 16 when Grub is loading09:06
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coNPkarlwrk: that's why I asked if the sound modules are compiled and loaded properly09:07
_jasonzim, try in #vim09:07
MaDSeNany solution what to do?09:07
zimall dead in there09:07
karlwrkwell, I took the config from /boot of a fresh install, from the 2.6.12-38609:07
zimam in there now09:07
karlwrkdid a a make oldconfig09:07
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Exdaixlowman62: lol nope...   bah Ubuntu used to love me...  now it seems I'm it's worst enemy09:07
fr0xIt works09:07
fr0xI appreciate it _jason09:07
daveyzim, theres a couple of things you can do, the easiest is to edit ~/.vimrc and add: "color: murphy"09:07
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_jasonfr0x, np09:07
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karlwrkthen added all the IDE stuff in, and built09:07
daveyzim, replacing murphy with your preferred color scheme :)09:07
cozExdaux what is the problem09:07
zimty09:07
JeremyPrivettNow that I can see better ...09:08
lowman62Exdaix: run that script again after you install the codecs09:08
Exdaixcoz:  I put in a DVD, fire up totem and tell it to play the DVD... it goes through to the menu, but when I tell it to play the movie it gtells me "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?"09:08
coNPkarlwrk: okay, are your sound-card modules compiled?09:08
zimwhere do u add them09:08
Exdaixcoz: and I have everythign installed09:08
karlwrkhow could I check the sound modules? artsd is running, things like xmms and vlc "play" and do visualisation and stuff, but no sound output09:08
saifhow can i edit sources.list09:08
cozno you don't09:08
Exdaixlowman62: yea I did...  :/09:08
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daveyzim, just anywhere in that file is fine09:08
coNPkarlwrk: and what about the mixer?09:08
Exdaixcoz: so what am I msising09:08
JeremyPrivettCan anyone help me with this problem: http://www.omegavortex.com/xsession-errors.txt09:08
lowman62Exdaix: sudo apt-get install xine <--try that09:08
coNPkarlwrk: I mean volume control09:08
Evodawgmalefestra:  how do I get sudo apt-get or should I use the cvs recommended by mplayer?09:08
cozlibdvdcss09:08
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JeremyPrivettIt's not letting me log in.09:08
stevr1iti have tried : sudo rm -Rf /ect/gaim but it does not work09:08
_Saif_let me know how can i edit09:09
karlwrkwell I have volume control, kmix is running, I can volume up/down09:09
_Saif_sources.list09:09
stevr1itwhat is worng?09:09
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Exdaixcoz: I have that09:09
coNPstevr1it: sudo rm -Rf /etc/gaim09:09
Exdaixlowman62: ok09:09
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cozdid you restart09:09
karlwrkit's almost like I have it muted or something, but if I reboot to the stock kernal, it starts working again09:09
daveyzim, you may also want to add: :syn on, for syntax highlighting09:09
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coNPkarlwrk: does it find any soundcards (by properties)?09:09
cello_raspany good ipod (shuffle) linux interface programs?09:09
Exdaixcoz: no ill try that in a sec after I check xine-lib09:09
zimdavey where do u add new themes09:09
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lowman62Exdaix: totem never worked for me09:09
zimty09:10
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_Saif_i want to install audio player on my ubuntu 5.10 breezy09:10
stevr1itthank you bye09:10
cozExdaix run this in the terminal   sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh09:10
daveyzim, you want to add a new theme? somewhere in .vim :)09:10
fr0x_jason, I thought that it works because I see no longer this error and instead of it I see the picture of the movie, though when I click on "Play" - Nothing happens. It does not play the movie.09:10
daveyzim ~/.vim - I think.09:10
Exdaixcoz: just did a minute ago09:10
zimdavey .vimrc not there should i just add it09:10
cozok09:10
daveyI personally find the defaults to be more than adequate (theres is a lot)09:10
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daveyzim, yes, just create it09:10
Exdaixlowman62: hmm ok hold on gzine is installing09:10
zimty09:10
karlwrknd_intel8x0 is loaded, and a bunch of other snd_modules.  Kmixer says sound drivers supported, alsa + oss, sound driver in use: alsa09:11
_jasonfr0x, yeah it probably relies on some code only ie understands.  Is this a public thing?  I can try it on my setup and see if I can work around it09:11
cozRxdaix If after restart it still doesn't work we can start at the beginning and check thing09:11
_Saif_i want to install audio player on my ubuntu 5.10 breezy09:11
lowman62Exdaix: ok09:11
_jason_Saif_, any audio player in specific?09:11
lowman62Exdaix: let me know09:11
cozExdaix sorry09:11
daveyzim, in vim; if you type <esc> :color <tab>, pressing the <tab> key will go through them all :)09:11
LoPMXis there any 3d acceleration for a Intel Media Accelerator 900?09:11
fr0x_jason, sure, thanks: http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3197670,00.html09:11
_Saif_such as xmms209:11
daveyzim, and my config line was wrong, its ":color murphy"09:11
_Saif_tell me any good one, and which has easy setup to install09:12
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Kibouactually it's colorscheme murphy09:12
cozSaif I havnt tried xmms2 but xmms works fine09:12
cyphase_Saif_, Rhymbox is a good audio manager09:12
daveyKibou, I beg your pardon, :color also works09:12
cyphaseRhythmbox*09:12
cozKibou you have coloscheme installed????09:12
lowman62Amarok09:12
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_Saif_Rhythmbox is fine09:12
_Saif_i like xmms, i played that on Suse09:12
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Exdaixlowman62: bah gxine gave me a dvd error once it tried to play the ecrpyted part.09:13
cozSaif xmms is really nice especially with streamtuner and streamripper09:13
lowman62i have xmms in ubuntu breezy works great09:13
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cozKibou do you have colorscheme installed?09:13
_Saif_ok thats great! let me know if any one can help me to install xmms in my breez09:13
_Saif_y09:13
j-linuxI have a ThinkPad T43 (Centrino).  I can't connect with wireless, either with the Centrino or with an Orinoco Gold.  My signal is good.  My settings look right.  Are there any issues with Breezy and wireless?  Some secret trick?09:13
lowman62Exdaix: okay have you enabled dma?09:13
Kibouinstalled? no..09:13
Exdaixlowman62: I've never had this much trouble getting DVDs running in the past 6 years using Linux... lol09:14
karlwrkapt-get install xmms ?09:14
cozSaif how did youget that thing installed? I have been trying09:14
j-linuxI've tried connecting on many different wireless networks and can't do it.09:14
_jasonubotu, tell _Saif_ about synaptic09:14
lowman62Exdaix: I know what you mean i had a hard time with it too09:14
Exdaixlowman62: yea09:14
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lowman62okay can I msg you?09:14
_Saif_i have not installed it yet, i wanted to install it09:14
Exdaixlowman62: yea np09:14
lowman62ok09:14
cozExdaix it is easy if you want to start over to check things09:14
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fr0x_jason, It works for you?09:15
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_jasonfr0x, nope, but for some reason it doesn't throw that error at me09:15
fusionfoxUbuntu does not detect NTFS partitions, what can i do to acces my NTFS partitions?09:15
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Eugmananyone know how to remove an unremovable package?09:15
cozExdaix open the terminal09:15
_Saif__jason, should i pm you?09:15
cozI will give you several things to type in09:15
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theineEugman, what do you mean by 'unremovable'?09:15
Exdaixcoz: fire away09:15
cozyou will alredy have some of these but still type them in09:16
cyphasehas anyone noticed that Google Pack uses the same concept as linux package managers09:16
_jason_Saif_, read the link ubotu sent you09:16
theineEugman, that it will remove lots of other packages too?09:16
fr0x_jason, once I have installed this agent you gave me I don't get this error anymore, but I simply cannot play the movie. Can you play it?09:16
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_jasonfr0x, nope09:16
_Saif_let me read it twice09:16
fr0x_jason, Any clue how to fix it?09:16
cozsudo apt-get install totem-xine gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse09:16
karlwrkcoNP: ok, both the working and non-working kernels have a bunch of snd_* modules loaded,what else were you suggesting I look for?09:16
jouni__mJeremyPrivett http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26854.html and search ICEauthority09:16
_Saif_coz, that command was for me?09:17
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fr0xAnyone has any idea why I cannot play movies over the firefox (wmv movies) - For example, the movie in this link: http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3197670,00.html09:17
butcherbirdfusionfox: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountNTFSonBoot09:17
cozno that was for exdaix09:17
EugmanI mean it causes an error in the remove scripts09:17
Exdaixcoz: ok09:17
fusionfoxbutcherbird, thx09:17
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_Saif_ok09:17
karlwrkhmm, what do you know09:17
karlwrkit's working.09:17
EugmanI can use paste bin to ecplain better if you'd like09:18
cozExdaix sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts09:18
karlwrkbuggers me what was differen the rest of the day09:18
_jasonfr0x, okay I'm playing it, turns out I was blocking javascript09:18
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unl3ssHey everyone, I was wondering what I do to switch from KDE to Fluxbox as my window manager after I've installed the package09:18
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goldplatedpentiuhey everyone09:18
fr0x_jason, It seems like I am blocking Javascript as well, where do I enable this block?09:18
fr0xdisable I mean09:18
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mweunl3ss: just choose it in the login screen09:18
goldplatedpentiuhow do i install AVG on ubuntu09:18
_jasonfr0x, best way is to not use user agent switcher.  Just click that link they give you "clicking the link below: play"09:18
goldplatedpentiu???09:18
jouni__munl3ss log out and choose FLuxbox session09:18
_jasonfr0x, I am using mplayerplug-in by the way09:19
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Eugmanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/685309:19
unl3ssthanks mwe and jouni09:19
_jasonfr0x, the javascript block just prevented me from seeing that error message about using internet explorer09:19
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coNPkarlwrk: does volume-applet or gnome-mixer recognize any sound cards?09:19
fr0x_jason, how call this plugin in apt-get?09:19
fr0xmaybe I am missing this plugin09:19
goldplatedpentiuI have rpm and a aliened deb09:20
Exdaixcoz: mmk09:20
cozExdaix        gst-register-0.8      no sudo in front of it09:20
_jasonfr0x, mozilla-mplayer09:20
_Saif_can i open .deb file with Archieve Manager09:20
Exdaixcoz ok09:20
_guest_Hello - i am trying to install flash player on ubuntu - and need help09:20
_jasonfr0x, you'll need mplayer installed first if you don't have it yet09:20
_jasonubotu, tell fr0x about mplayer09:20
cozExdaix do you have w32codecs?09:20
Exdaixyea09:20
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sovvy2009Hey, does anyone know any good Accessibility Aids for Gnome?09:21
cozoExdaix now do   hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc09:21
sovvy2009know of*09:21
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Blippenoatun sigsevs when opening something it can't play. How do i stop that?09:21
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cozthat is a numbe one not an l09:21
Exdaixcoz: ok09:21
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coznow do sudo gedit /etc/hdparm.conf09:21
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Fear_cultanyone know the min sys requirements for the ubuntu live cd?09:21
_jason_Saif_, I don't think so, what deb are you trying to open?09:22
_Saif_modem drivers09:22
mweFear_cult: I think it's listed on the site09:22
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iamrunningircasrhey i can't add a new user09:22
Exdaixcoz:  yea im in09:22
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Mykas0hi everyone09:22
cozExdaix  ok at the end of the document09:22
butcherbirdFear_cult: what kinda system do u want to run it on?09:23
iamrunningircasri can't add any users09:23
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goldplatedpentiuDoes anyone kno how to install AVG09:23
_jason_Saif_, you can install .debs, are you following directions specific to ubuntu (not all .deb's will work)09:23
cozfirst type in /dev/hdc {09:23
iamrunningircasri go to add user and type in my name09:23
mweiamrunningircasr: somwhere in settings or useradd from a terminal09:23
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Fear_cultbutcherbird, p2 233 mmx 64 megs of ram 6g hdd ati video09:23
iamrunningircasrand it says something about writing not permitted09:23
butcherbirdFear_cult: should be ok gnome might be a little slow09:23
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iamrunningircasrmwe09:23
_Saif_thats okay!09:23
cozExdaix did you type that in09:24
Fear_cultkewl09:24
iamrunningircasrall i have is the command and one terminal09:24
mweiamrunningircasr: what says that?09:24
Exdaixcoz yea keep going09:24
Fear_culti havent installed it yet just running the live to guage slowness its been loading for like 5 hours gnome still hasent come up lol09:24
cozExdaix Under that type dam = on09:24
mweiamrunningircasr: you need to use sudo useradd09:24
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lowman62dma09:24
cozExdaix UNDER that type   }09:24
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_Saif_so let me know about xmms how to get it09:24
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cozExdaix close save09:25
tuxedo_kamenlisten... I got a new ADSL modem and the CD came with USB-APL-1-1.8-0.1.0.1.tar for linux... any idea on how to use this file to install the internet on my ubuntu? (I am a newbie...)09:25
_jason_Saif_, open synaptic and search for 'xmms'09:25
Exdaixcoz yup09:25
carrerehello09:25
carrere:] 09:25
_guest_How do i install flash player on ubuntu?09:25
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Fear_culttuxedo_kamen, tar xvf usb-aplblahblahblah09:25
Fear_cultitll unpack it09:25
_jasonubotu, tell Lis about flash09:25
cozExdaix now run this again  sudo /sur/share/doc/libdvdread3/examp[les/install-css.sh09:25
mweinstalling the internet might be very hard :)09:25
tuxedo_kamenyeah, i know tha09:25
Fear_cultunless u wanna do it the graphical way09:25
tuxedo_kament09:25
tuxedo_kamenbut what next?09:25
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_Saif_i search twice for xmms, but 2 result found09:26
Fear_cultvi README or INSTALL and it should tell you what to do09:26
runniingmitted09:26
Fear_cultprolly runs some wierd make options09:26
Exdaixcoz:  ok09:26
Exdaixcoz reboot?09:26
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_jason_Saif_, which two09:26
Morrowynwhy reboot?09:26
runniinghey it sais chown 1000:1000 /home/(user)   operation not permitted09:26
tuxedo_kamenok, i will try09:26
cozExdaix that should do it restart to be shure come back and let me know09:26
tuxedo_kamenthanks09:26
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Exdaixk09:26
runniingi am having the user problem09:26
mwerunniing: sudo09:26
Morrowyntry sudo chown 1000:1000 <dir>09:26
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_Saif_libflac7 and libmpeg0c209:26
cozExdaix when boot back up there should be an update for libdvdcss09:27
runniingbut i am running all of this as root09:27
goldplatedpentiuDoes anyone kno how to install AVG09:27
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_jason_Saif_, read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XMMS09:27
runniingi don't have any users created09:27
_Saif_Ok09:27
mwewhy not sudo chown user.group <dir>09:27
runniingthe install F* up09:27
j0bezoneMy brother bought himself a NGS Robbie 2.0 webcam, and after finding out that there is no driver for it yet, he e-mailed the seller. They told him the specific chipset used, and after some searching he managed to find a pdf with the specifications of this chipset at its manufacturer website. From looking at it, this seems the stuff needed to develop a driver/module for linux. Unfortunally, neither him09:28
runniingdo i need to run sudo if i am root?09:28
j0bezoneor me know or have the time and motivation to learn device driver developing to create one. So I have this question: where should this info be sent to?09:28
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mwerunniing: right that's what we're saying09:28
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runniingok09:28
_Saif_i read that before, the just released xmms2 and for installation all i need to edit the sources.list that is in etc\apt\ sources.list09:28
runniingi'll try that09:28
cozj0bezone try ubuntu09:28
cozsend it to the develpers09:29
mwerunniing: normal users don't have rights to tamper with the system just like that09:29
j0bezonecoz: ahh, good idea. As a bugreport, you mean?09:29
northieI'm about to exchange my secondary, non-OS, harddrive for a new one. Do I need to prepare ubuntu for this in any way?09:29
cozthat might work09:29
Eugmanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/685309:29
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koyoda!sources09:29
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource09:29
lucasvonorthie: if the old one is still being mounted, remove it from /etc/fstab09:29
lucasvonorthie: just shut down, plug it in, boot up, run gparted09:30
tswhow can I disable sound in gnome-terminal? --disable-sound didnt help09:30
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northiegparted?09:30
j0bezonecoz: thanks, I'll either do that, or post a message in the linux kernel mailing list. Probably will do the first. Thanks09:30
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lucasvonorthie: gnome partition managetr09:30
Di42lohello09:30
_Saif_checking09:31
DaSkreec1_jason: Much thanks09:31
Eugmannothrie it's a program you can install using a package manager09:31
_jasonDaSkreec1, np09:31
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northieHow do I remove it from /etc/fstab? I just run disks manager and unmount?09:31
tswah found it in the menu ;)09:31
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cozj)bezone also be on the lookout for a  logitech orbit cam on sale they work right out of the box09:32
Di42loI have 2 sounds card...and execpt the beep-media-player (which i can configure which driver i want to use) , i cant configure the different sound drive i wanna use (mplayer, games, micromedia flash etc...) how can i fix that ?09:32
northielucasvo: How do I remove it from /etc/fstab? I just run disks manager and unmount?09:32
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butcherbirdnorthie: open in a text editor you will need root priv so 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab' the entry should be obvious09:32
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Eugmanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6853 Ah but it seems noone can help.09:33
j0bezonecoz: yeah, that's what I told him. He should probably return that webcam and get a fully supported one.09:33
cozj0bezone absolutely the problem with linux is "people, software, hardware"09:34
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northiebutcherbird, Thanks. But is it necessary? Not that it's hard, just seems odd to have to leave the gui for such a simple thing.09:34
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KimppaHi. I have this weird problem. I was trying to copy a DVD using k3b. I put the DVD I wanted to copy in my dvd-drive and launched dvd copy from k3b. k3b copied the dvd on my hard drive and asked me to insert a blank dvd. I did that, but then I got an error (which I no longer can remember what it was), after that I haven't been able to use my dvd-drive09:34
Kimppait doesn't mount any dvd's09:34
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Kimppaeven if I try "sudo mount /media/cdrom0/ -o unhide"09:34
Kimppaany ideas what's wrong and how to fix it?09:34
Exdaixlowman62: coz:  It works now, I am eternally grateful  :)09:34
mazerdoes anyone know how a could force gcc to compile by default with gcc-3.4 and not gcc3.3 ?09:34
cozKimppa do you have dma enabled09:34
MrPocketswhats the code to reset the gnome panel?09:35
northieThanks, all. Geronimo.09:35
cozxdaix great sit back and enjoy09:35
cozExdaix09:35
Exdaixlowman62: coz: time to watch some Bruce Willis action..  hahah09:35
cozExdais no starwars????09:35
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Exdaix:P09:35
becauseubuntu owns09:35
KimppaI've burned DVD's with it earlier today, but they were already as images on my computer. I've copied DVD's before, maybe a week ago09:35
theineMr_Milenko, maybe "killall gnome-panel"09:35
becausei have to go09:35
becausei gotta say bye09:35
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Kimppacoz: how do I check it?09:36
whyis the world round?09:36
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everybodysays "bye ZiX"09:36
everybodybye all ;p09:36
cvt|kdedoes ubuntu come with an ftp client?09:36
cozKimppa open up the terminal09:36
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mwecvt|kde: yes. it's called ftp09:36
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cozKimppa type in sudo hdparm /dev/hdc09:37
jellecan somewhone help me with a little problem that i have09:37
cozhelle what is the probelm09:37
cozKimppa you still here?09:37
jelleI want to install mplayer and i make the ./configure file09:37
Eugman!en09:38
ubotumethinks en is Queen's English Speakers; Essex inhabitants who may all go to #ubuntu-uk - anyone from the Island of Great Britain is also welcome.09:38
jellebut than het doesn't want to make the programma want i type make09:38
mwe!mplayer09:38
ubotuI heard mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106109:38
johnstojdoes 5.10 come with a C++ compiler? I do not find g++09:38
cozjelle everyone here will hate me but go onto the internet and download automatix09:38
Kimppacoz: yeah... it's weird, it's taking ages to run that command09:38
lucasvojohnstoj: sudo apt-get install gcc09:38
butcherbirdcvt|kde: might like gftp for a gui.  I think youll have to install it09:38
mwejelle: just enable universe and sudo apt-get install mplayer-38609:38
Kimppacoz: got the result, dma is on09:38
jelleok i will do that09:39
cozok if it that slow something is up09:39
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cvt|kdebutcherbird, thx09:39
Kimppacoz: I also got this -> HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument09:39
cozKimppa that one I am not familiar with09:39
cozKimppa sorry09:39
mwejelle: or enable multiverse, rather09:39
Kimppacoz: np.. any ideas what I could try? Except rebootin :)09:40
cozjelle also download automatix09:40
Kimppa+g09:40
cozjelle just follow directions CAREFULLY09:40
mwe!automatix09:40
ubotuautomatix is probably messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!09:40
yutcome aggiungo ubuntu italia alla server list09:40
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cozubotu you need to do more research ti does not break anything unless you have hardware issues09:40
ubotucoz: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about09:40
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yutwww.ubuntu.it09:41
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johnstojlucasvo: i am at school and only have access to wireless, so I am trying to get XSupplicant but need gcc to make it. Can I DL gcc and move to laptop via pendrive?09:41
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_Saif_can i disable that auto dial while ubuntu starts?09:41
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SapentisHeya.09:41
lucasvojohnstoj: yes09:41
mwecoz: it enables the root user for one thing and is known to overwrite system files09:41
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userasroothey guys i' gonna paste to flood09:41
lucasvouserasroot: ?09:41
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Sapentisuserasroot, I advise that you don't.09:42
_Saif_how09:42
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cozmwe it does not overwrite09:42
_Saif_can i disable?09:42
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unl3ssAnyone here have experience with Fluxbox?09:42
shrike_00how can i disable ubuntu trying to synch time when computer starts.  Takes about 4 min and I know its not going to work.09:42
_Saif_auto dial while computer starts09:42
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userasrootunl3ss, i am09:42
yutwww.ubuntu.it09:43
userasroothey i am haivng a heck of a time figuring out how to add a user09:43
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userasrootunl3ss, what is up?09:43
sethkuserasroot, useradd09:43
lsuactiafnershrike_00 : sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate09:43
userasrootsethk, could you look at #flood09:43
sethkuserasroot, wait, let me /join it09:43
unl3ssuserasroot: Great... I would like to make the switch from KDE to Fluxbox, but I'm having a problem getting the GUI set up09:43
mweshrike_00: you can press ctrl-c to stop it though09:43
lsuactiafnershrike_00 : bootup will say ntpdate [fail]  afterward and dont worry about it09:44
sethkuserasroot, ok, I'm in #flood09:44
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Madeyeguys, I'm on a network where all PC's connected via DHCP, How can I get their IP's ? actually there is only two computers09:44
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unl3ssuserasroot: And by that I mean that I would like to get the same structure as with KDE when I right-click09:44
unl3ssuserasroot: As with the All Applications menu09:44
lsuactiafnerunl3ss : blackbox is even better, find a howto detailing how to configure menus, backgrounds ect09:44
shrike_00thx09:44
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unl3ssI was just wondering if there was a migration guide so that the menus could transfer over09:45
lsuactiafnerunl3ss : i run blackbox as is, no backgrounds, just a custum menu, just incase you dont know, click the left right middle buttons on the desktop to bring up the various menus you need09:45
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_Saif_i want to disable auto dialing when computer starts09:45
userasrootunl3ss, you will have to edit the ~/.fluxbox/menu for that09:45
userasrootunl3ss, just a seck09:46
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unl3ssuserasroot: Thanks09:46
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lsuactiafner_Saif_ : sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ppp might do the trick09:46
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_Saif_i want to disable auto dialing when computer starts09:46
mweunl3ss: if you install menu and menu-xdg you'll get a fluxbox menu with most apps in it. you'll have to use fluxconf to point it to using the file though09:47
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_Saif_are you sure lsuactiafner09:47
unl3ssmwe: Ah, alright.... thanks09:47
HaiKarateMadeye : several ways... look at the logs of the dhcp server device to see what leases have been given.  if you cannot do that, then use something like nmap- for example, if your ip is 192.168.1.10, then do something like this at a terminal prompt: sudo apt-get install nmap && sudo nmap -sP 192.168.1.*09:47
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lsuactiafner_Saif_ : as i said, no am not sure, havent done it myself, since this machine has no modem, but am 95% sure09:48
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lsuactiafner_Saif_ : so test it09:48
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_Saif_Ok09:48
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userasrootunl3ss, http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php/Howto_edit_menu09:48
unl3ssmwe: I just checked and I have both of those installed, but still there's nothing09:48
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exosysthey guys, sorry to be rude. I am playing with dapper and it refuses to play mp3s (in totem and rhythmbox) even tho it was fine in breezy. Did something happen to gstreamer i am unaware of?09:49
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mweunl3ss: you have to use fluxconf like I said09:49
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unl3ssthanks userasroot09:49
mweunl3ss: point it to use fluxbox-menu instead of menu09:49
MithsirHi! Ubuntu seems to load usbhid.ko from the initrd, right? How do I change that? I have my own usbhid.ko (recompiled for my wacom graphics tablet).09:49
HaiKarateexosyst : umm i don't think dapper is supported yet, so if something doesn't work in it, yer own yer own homey09:49
_Saif_i have save that command, i will test it when i logout from computer09:49
exosystoh bum!09:49
mweunl3ss: that menu will be update as you install/uninstall programs with apt09:50
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MithsirIn other words: How do I replace files within the initrd image?09:50
unl3ssmwe: I assume it recognizes the programs already installed, too09:50
mweunl3ss: right09:51
mweunl3ss: run update-menus from the terminal to make sure09:51
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johnstojlucasvo: if I need to ask this question elsewhere, let me know: where can I look to DL a gcc package? gcc.gnu offers the source but a package would be much nicer09:51
gimmulfWhats a good shell hosting service?09:52
unl3ssmwe: Is fluxconf supposed to be in Mac format?!09:52
mweunl3ss: mac format?09:52
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mazerdoes anyone know how a could force gcc to compile by default with gcc-3.4 and not gcc3.3 ?09:52
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unl3ssmwe: Yeah, I'm opening it with nano and I'm getting heaps of gibberish with the message (Converted from Mac format)09:53
mweunl3ss: sudo apt-get install fluxconf if you don't have it09:53
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mweunl3ss: type fluxconf at the terminal09:53
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userasrootsethk, how do i delete a user?09:53
mweunl3ss: it's a program09:53
userasrootor anyone?09:53
woodgrainis gdb included in build-essential?09:53
unl3ssmwe: ohhhhhh, sorry, I'm still thinking it's a text file, sorry ;)09:53
HaiKarateuserasroot : userdel or deluser09:53
sethkuserasroot, userdel09:53
be1sthi, I havn't used the distri yet, but would you say that it will work on an acer Aspire 5022WMLI laptop?09:54
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ompaulbe1st, why not check the live CD the wireless will take a little work but should be okay09:54
be1stwhere can I download th live cd?09:55
mwebe1st: check the laptop wiki at wiki.ubuntu.com09:55
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be1stok09:55
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mwebe1st: and google09:55
lsuactiafnerjohnstoj : apt-get install build-essentials09:55
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ompaulbe1st, I got the bot to send you a message about wireless09:55
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moodogEvening all.09:56
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XTROH hi. Any body see anythign wrong with this syntax, is --exclude in the right place? tar -zcvf foo.tar.gz /path --exclude=/home/user/blah09:56
johnstojlsuactiafner: i have no network right now without wireless, and i need gcc to build xsupplicant to get wireless, :(09:56
be1stthanks09:56
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unl3ssmwe: Where is the menu file normally located?09:56
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mweunl3ss: /home/<user>/.fluxbox/menu09:56
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morethi all!09:56
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morethi all!09:57
moretplease help09:57
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moretMy firefox crashes when execute a java applet09:57
mweunl3ss: /home/<user>/.fluxbox/fluxbox.menu for the xdg menu09:57
moretkonqueror does not work too09:57
LoPMXis there any 3d acceleration for a Intel Media Accelerator 900?09:57
moretI thin it's a library problem09:57
PapagenoSorry for the silly question. Is it linux editors that do both \r and \n at line ends or is windows editors? If it is linux editors, can I force Kate to do only \n?09:57
computerdudeI've never seen this channel go inactive for more then 5 minutes.09:57
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Jeeves2001hello all, having some trouble setting up a shared drive on ubuntu to be accessed by a windows 98 machine, I am able to see the windows machine in Ubuntu but every time i copy a file it stops after a few seconds saying syntax error any one able to help / advise?09:58
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mwemoret: firefox and java do not alway play nice together09:58
vodnikhello all, i messed up my partitions and I think i need gpart, I am currently on Ubuntu live CD, is there any way to install it somehow }i have got external harddrive with ext# partition attached, no messed partitions there] 09:58
unl3ssthanks mwe, I'm going to boot into it and I'll let you know how it's coming09:58
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moretmwe, in Debian it works really fine09:58
johnstojexit09:58
mwemoret: no09:58
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lsuactiafnerjohnstoj : apt-get install build-essentials09:58
mwemoret: not always09:58
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mwemoret: ff/java on linux == random crashes09:59
moretmwe, kaffe?10:00
woodgrainhow do I install build-essentials for ubuntu?10:00
mwemoret: ?10:00
moretapt-get install build-essential10:00
woodgrain!build-essential10:00
butcherbirdwoodgrain: sudo apt-get install build-essential10:00
ubotuwoodgrain: I don't know, could you explain it?10:00
woodgrainbutcherbird, how can I add your response to hte bot?10:00
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bshumatePapageno: windoze line ending format is carriage return + linefeed (\r\n) and gnu/linux/unix is linefeed only (\n)10:01
ompaul!gcc10:01
ubotusomebody said gcc was the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'10:01
mwe!tell woodgrain about help10:01
butcherbirdwoodgrain: i believe 'ubotu !build-essential is whateverresponseshouldbe10:01
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ompaulubotu build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info10:02
ubotuokay, ompaul10:02
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mwebutcherbird: leave ot the !10:02
woodgrain!build-essential10:02
ubotuI guess build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info10:02
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woodgrainbutcherbird,  is that 'ubotu or /ubotu?10:03
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ompaul!bot10:03
butcherbirdubotu10:03
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.10:03
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Necrosandoes 5.10 come with the wlan-ng drivers for linksys wireless stuff?10:04
ompaulwoodgrain, it is a db that reacts to some simple commands10:04
LittleBootis this working?10:04
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slashx1896He yall10:04
ompaulLittleBoot, define working?10:04
slashx1896hey all*10:04
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LittleBootGuess it is10:04
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slashx1896im trying to get a program on linux , called xlink kai..., i have the Linux (x86) file.. and well it says to type sudo /kaid -c kaid.conf, and when i do that it says kaid , no such command10:05
fealzlol10:05
NecrosanHELLO10:05
Necrosandoes 5.10 have drivers for d-link dwl-12210:05
LittleBootTry to just su , I think it has to do with the path10:06
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Necrosanits a usb wifi card10:06
mweslashx1896: and you put the kaid binary in / ?10:06
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slashx1896i have all the files in afolder on my desktop10:06
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mweslashx1896: sure it'e supposed to be ./kaid10:06
HaiKarateslashx1896 : maybe it said something like ./kaid ...10:06
slashx1896yea10:06
slashx1896thats it10:06
slashx1896./kaid -c kaid.conf10:07
e_machinistIs there a photo editing program similar to iPhoto or Picasa for Linux?10:07
mweslashx1896: then cd to where it's located and type that instead10:07
slashx1896ok10:07
HaiKarateslashx1896 : mind the period there then...it is important10:07
phanterhello, can you tell me if there is a small gnome tool which enables me to easily and quickly change the keyboard layout?10:07
shrike_00e_machinist: gimp10:07
e_machinisthaha, not the gimp silly.10:07
slashx1896KAID: your not root sorry10:07
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e_machinistOne that is easy enough my wife could use it (since I don't allow Windows on this computer).10:08
e_machinistGimp is a little over her head admittedly.10:08
mwee_machinist: gimp is great IMO if you don't like it I think you about out of options unless you want something simpler10:08
slashx1896Whats it mean im not on root?10:08
Necrosanwe gon ride, forever stuntin while the pops roll dro, wwoooooaahaho10:08
e_machinistmwe: I love the GIMP, use it everyday... doesn't mean my wife is capable of doing so though.10:08
ompaul!tell slashx1896 about root10:08
mwee_machinist: to complicated or what?10:09
ompaulslashx1896, read the message from the bot ubotu10:09
slashx1896i did10:09
ompaulfollow the link :)10:09
slashx1896lol will do10:09
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butcherbirde_machinist: maybe digikam?10:09
mwee_machinist: there's krita for kde. it's more simple10:09
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e_machinistmwe: simply to complicated for her. I need to find something where she can just, acquire, edit.. print... haha.10:10
slashx1896also one other thing, how do i change my default web browser?10:10
mwee_machinist: I don't know the programs you mentioned10:10
joeljkpso i'm sitting here at work with some free time; any suggestions on projects i can hack on? solaris 810:10
e_machinistmwe: I'll check that out.10:10
e_machinistbutcherbird: I'll check that as well.10:10
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TodoDocmoin10:10
slashx1896firefox isnt a lil messed up for me, so i wanna change my default brower to epiphany10:10
TodoDocHat sich nix gendert, die Leute auf dem Debian Chanel halten sich immer noch fr die Grten10:11
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slashx1896is*10:11
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vodnikgreat, so it is only a matter of adding a repository and installing new stuff on live cd...10:11
mweslashx1896: tried the looking around in the menus? it's there somewhere. I don't use gnome so I can't tell you where exactly10:12
bshumatee_machinist: f-spot is a good iPhoto workalike for gnu/linux10:12
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malefestraanyone able to give me a bit of help for running a script on startup?10:12
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e_machinistbshumate: thanks, I will check that out!10:12
slashx1896ompaul: is root just sudo?10:12
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slashx1896ok10:12
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kcantinhello10:13
malefestraI wrote wificlient.sh to bring up my pcmcia card and connect to my wireless network (using madwifi drivers) and it works well and all.10:13
malefestraBut the script needs to be run as root10:13
cvt|kdei'm copying a folder that is only 64mB on a cd but it's copying more than 85mB so far and it says 100% but it keeps copying. know why?10:13
mwemalefestra: you can put the path into /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh10:13
e_machinistbshumate: wow, f-spot might be exactly what I need for her to do her photo stuff on Linux instead of Windows. Mwahahaha.10:13
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bshumatee_machinist: it's still early in dev, but looks promising: http://www.gnome.org/projects/f-spot/10:13
malefestramwe - i did that, and also to /etc/rc5.d10:13
malefestraa symlink, to /etc/rc5.d that is10:14
mwemalefestra: good10:14
e_machinistbshumate: yah, I10:14
mwemalefestra: so?10:14
malefestrabut it won't run correctly, as it doesn't run as root when i put it there10:14
kcantincan anyone help me setup my print server for an hpdeskjet 960c?10:14
mwemalefestra: it should10:14
e_machinistbshumate: I'll give it a try. (Oops on enter)10:14
slashx1896hey whats the command so i can watch something i did on hte terminal?10:14
malefestrai get the same error message as i would when i try to run it as a non-root user.10:14
cvt|kdein my ftp client i can't find the desktop folder. why is that?10:14
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slashx1896cause it said something , now its not doing anything but it hasnt started a new prompt or w/e10:14
kcantinthe client is a windows 2000 box10:15
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gee_geehi all10:15
kcantinhello10:15
mwekcantin: samba is probably what you're looking for. there is wiki10:15
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ulissehello tribe10:15
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gee_geei have a certain problem with my current version of ubuntu (dapper drake)10:16
gee_geeit wont boot anymore because there are some syntax errors in /etc/init.d/rc10:16
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daveywell that was silly10:16
bshumatee_machinist: it is very raw though right now...may not be usable at this point :-(10:16
daveygee_gee, insert a livecd and mount it and edit it10:16
gee_geei didnt modify it :(10:16
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ulisseanybody knows about gnome-panel crashing continuoisly in breezy?10:16
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gee_geeyep thats my prob... dont have a live cd...10:16
daveygee_gee, time to download one... :)10:17
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e_machinistbshumate: hmm, after I get this source compiled I'll see... if it isn't stable then definitely not good for the wife. Heh.10:17
flannelhi can anyone give a newb some help?10:17
daveyI can mail you one, but it'll take about a week to .de (which is where I think you are - if not, oh well)10:17
gee_geehmmm.... would take ages. isnt there another possible way?10:17
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mwegee_gee: if you don't know how to fix problems don't use alfa releases10:18
gee_geeargh...10:18
flannelI have downloaded 2 of the 64bit install disks but both have hung whilst setting up primary installation repository10:18
daveygee_gee, what filesystem do you use?10:18
gee_geeext310:18
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daveygee_gee, OK, you are in windows, right?10:18
mike-e!source-o-matic10:18
ubotumike-e: I give up, what is it?10:18
mike-e!repositories10:18
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource10:18
slashx1896it just says , KAID: Kai engine for linux has started..., and its been like that for 5 minutes... does anyone know if it probbaly is gonna take a while to do  or its frozen or something10:18
gee_gee(and i know how to fix it, the problem is to access the disk)10:18
gee_geeyup10:18
mike-e!easysource10:18
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:18
cvt|kdehow do i send files in gftp?10:18
cvt|kdethere's no copy paste option10:19
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daveyOK, gee_gee, google for one of the ext2/3 filesystem drivers, then you *might* be able to at least move the file out of the init.d directory so it can boot10:19
unl3ssmwe: You still around?10:19
mweunl3ss: yeah10:19
gee_geehm... sounds good. didnt get that idea. ill try that out.10:19
unl3ssmwe: Well, I've been trying to point it to the right menu directory10:20
daveyhttp://www.fs-driver.org/ <--- try that one gee_gee10:20
flannelanyone...?  I would love to start playing with linux and really liked the look of ubuntu10:20
mwedavey: do you think it will boot without rc?10:20
mweunl3ss: yes10:20
gee_geedavey: thx... ill have a look.10:20
unl3ssmwe: And it looks like /usr/share/menu is the right one... but when I do that and reboot fluxbox, it won't even start10:21
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bshumateflannel: you may want to try burning the image to disc at a very slow speed, e.g. 4x10:21
mweunl3ss: it's not the one10:21
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flannelok...  I have one cd left... :(10:21
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mweunl3ss: /home/unl3ss/.fluxbox/fluxbox-menu is what you want10:21
Battlestarhmm can anyone help me get the screen to display right...10:21
Battlestarwhen i boot into ubuntu10:22
woodgrainompaul, yeah I know.  I queried it, but nothing then butcherbird gave me the right answer -- how do I add it to the bot?10:22
flannelit is wierd coz it looks like it is just finalising a couple of things but bang... it stops10:22
flannelfunny how it is 2 disks10:22
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unl3ssmwe: Alright, I'll try that again, thanks10:22
fusionfoxi recently updated to Breezy, and i cannot open a Root terminal, already tried su command but i dont got a root password.. what can i do??10:22
Battlestarthe screen is beyond the boundries of my LCd screen10:22
Battlestarand it overlaps itself10:22
bshumateflannel: yeah, sometimes weird borks during the install like that can be solved by making a disc at a slower speed...believe it, or not! ;-)10:22
Battlestarthe bottom is at the top and the top is at the bottow10:22
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Battlestar*bottom10:22
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flannelbshumate: thanks, will go and try now10:23
bshumate!tell fusionfox about rootsudo10:23
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Battlestari already spent 4 or 5 hours early this morning fixing this problem10:23
butcherbirdflannel: could aways order a cd :)10:23
Battlestarif i can't fix it soon i'm just gonna format and give up10:23
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gee_geedavey: it works fine. thank you very much!10:24
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keyhackIs there a package for MySQL 5?10:24
bshumateflannel: yeah, you can order pressed cdroms for free!10:24
daveygee_gee, it does work? cool, Will have to try it out10:24
flannellast disk... if that fails I may order10:24
cvt|kdehow does ftp work?10:24
bshumate!tell flannel about shipit10:24
flannelI had a look at it...10:24
mwecvt|kde: by transferring files between hosts10:24
flannelhow long does it take10:24
gee_geeyup, really fine. no im gonig to make that baby boot again *g*10:24
flannelI may order one anyway :D10:24
daveykeyhack, sudo apt-get install postgresql - its the deluxe version ;)10:24
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unl3ssmwe: Thanks heaps! It's working perfectly10:25
keyhackdavey: Uhuh... ;-)10:25
cvt|kdemwe, where is the copy/paste drag/drop feature in an ftp client or how is that done?10:25
scaporIs there a known problem with teh initscripts in dapper ? my box doesn't boot anymore .. give's errors on /etc/init.d/rc .. like "line 158 * 2: syntax error operand expected error token is "* 2" etc10:25
mweunl3ss: great10:25
Battlestaroh and if it helps anyone who is trying to help me... i got a while lot of "can't find file" errors on startup, they all seem to be video config files10:25
keyhackdavey: I'm compiling on a slow machine, thats why I asked if there is already one out there (apparently not from my rough Googline)10:25
keyhackg*10:25
slashx1896What application is used to run exexcutable files?10:25
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mweslashx1896: bash10:26
errrI updated my kernel from 2.6.12-9 to 2.6.12-10  and my nvidia stopped working:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114724  <== here is what I have tried doing to this point, Im having no luck, any one able to offer up some support?10:26
SirKillalothow do I find out which program eats my whole bandwidth?10:26
flannelbshumate: is 8x slow enough?10:26
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slashx1896i dont see bash10:26
scaporslashx1896: an executable file is an application itself .. click on it in your filemanager, of run it with bash10:26
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flannelis a slow as my writer goes10:26
slashx1896i prob dont have it..10:26
kcantinOk, I am looking at the wiki docs but, I can't find any drivers or support for setting up a print server10:26
scaporslashx1896: what executable do you want to run ?N10:26
mweslashx1896: of course you do but you don't understand how linux works10:27
slashx1896Kaid.. its a file for a program im getting10:27
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gee_geeim off. should be booting again. thanks again very much!10:27
mweslashx1896: you don't use a program to run a program you just run the program10:27
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ManifoldGuys.10:27
slashx1896it wont let me...10:27
theineManifold10:27
ManifoldDoes Ubuntu support Asian Language keyboard input?10:28
bpuccioanyone here have GPRS working on their Ubuntu box?10:28
lsuactiafnerbash is an interface to the kernel/brain of linux/operating system10:28
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theineSlackwise, what does it say?10:28
HaiKaratescapor: syntax error in support.sh line 10: lsb_release: expecting "Breeezy Badger" but got "Dapper Drake" ;-)10:28
mweslashx1896: what exactly are you trying to do?10:28
theineSlackwise, sorry... I meant slash...10:28
ubuntu_to much ??????????????///10:28
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theineslashx1896, what does it say?10:28
scaporHaiKarate: I think I found the bug10:28
scaporHaiKarate: :)10:28
Battlestarso can no one help me?10:28
slashx1896theine: nothing ahppens10:28
slashx1896happens*10:28
ubuntu_what is it10:28
slashx1896mwe: run a program called xlink kai,10:28
lsuactiafnerBash  is  an sh-compatible command language interpreter that executes commands read from the standard input10:28
CanYouHelpMePlzif i install kubuntu desktop, on ubuntu i can just choose between it and gnome in session right?10:29
mweslashx1896: is it installed and how are you trying to run it?10:29
ompaulwoodgrain, can I message you10:29
MithsirHello! I have replaced a module in /lib/modules with a custom one. Now ubuntu says "module already loaded" during boot and somehow the old module is loaded. but how? does ubuntu load modules from the initrd?10:29
theineslashx1896, do you know how to work the command line?10:29
slashx1896http://www.teamxlink.co.uk10:29
bshumateflannel: should be...if that doesn't work, then it may be hardware glitches which could possibly be worked around by using kernel parameters at boot time prior to installing...10:29
scaporHaiKarate: progress_size=$(((100 - $PROGRESS_STATE) / 3)) is in an if statement .. so it's not declared before if teat if isn't fulfilled10:29
ompaulCanYouHelpMePlz, you should be able to yes10:29
scaporHaiKarate: should I report it somewhere ?10:29
flannelbshumate: sounds a little complex10:29
butcherbirdManifold:  see wiki.ubuntu.com but i believe yes10:29
lsuactiafnerMithsir : put the new module where the old one is currently, locate old_module10:29
slashx1896mwe: im not sure.. the read me said to to ./kaid -h kaid.conf, and i did that in terminal. and it said some stuff then said KAID: kai engine for linux has started10:30
bshumateflannel: hopefully it is just the disc...10:30
flannelwas kinda hoping for a nice easy install10:30
ManifoldWhat should I search for, butcherbird?10:30
slashx1896theine, yes and no10:30
flannelyes... hopefully10:30
scaporHaiKarate: cus it generates the errors the next time it does progress_size=$(($progress_size * 2)) becuase $progress_size is NULL10:30
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slashx1896theine, i kinda do10:30
lsuactiafnerMithsir : also, you could lsmod then rmmod module and insmod /path/new_one10:30
woodgrainompaul, heck yeah!10:30
moretplease help, I can't execute applets in any browser (Konqueror, Firefox), I get the following message: kjas: ERROR: could not parse length out of10:30
scaporHaiKarate: ?10:30
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HaiKaratescapor : that was a joke.  Dapper is not a supported release homey, so you should not expect everything to work in it yet. ;-)10:30
butcherbirdManifold: scroll down to languages section of main page10:30
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flannelhave never delved too deep with linux before but am looking forward to it10:30
flannelwould like to ditch windows as much as possible...10:30
lsuactiafnermoret : its not the browser's fault, its the programmer of the java applet that screwed up10:31
theineslashx1896, perhaps that's not even necessary. how do you actually try to run the program?10:31
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bshumateflannel: Ubuntu is a great distribution to begin delving into!10:31
mweslashx1896: so it is doing something I don't know what kai is but it's running. you say it said kai engine started10:31
lsuactiafnermoret : contact the programmer and tell him to fix his program10:31
moretlsuactiafner: oh thanks10:31
Manifoldo_O10:31
Battlestarok....10:31
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flanneland run a true 64bit os10:31
slashx1896mwe: and that it still says that. it hasnt said anything esle or start a new prompt10:31
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boxyhey gnome takes forever to load i tryed installing alsa and that didn't work but with esd disabled gnome loaded like it was nothing, any ideas?10:31
ManifoldI can only make out 10% of that.10:31
Battlestaris anyone gonna help me with my video problem or not?10:31
boxybshumate, and all linux uses for that matter too :P10:31
slashx1896Theine, the readme said to do that, and to run the actual program i just double click the file, or right click and hit open10:31
CanYouHelpMePlzflannel: ubuntu 64bit is not very good, because of poor programs10:31
ManifoldIt's for my mum. I'm not totally fluent in reading Cantonese, only listening and speaking.10:31
Mithsirthe funny thing is: after boot, if I do a "modprobe -r usbhid" and then "modprobe usbhid" the correct module is loaded...10:31
flannelwhat are the image manipulation appz like on linux?10:31
mweslashx1896: I don't know that program. what is it supposed to do?10:31
lsuactiafnerBattlestar : ppl will help you when they know an answer10:31
flannelare they even close to photoshop?10:32
theineslashx1896, I tried to run it in a terminal and it needs root privileges10:32
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flannelsoz if that is a crap question10:32
derricksomebody that me can offer a CD of ubuntu?10:32
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slashx1896sudo ./kaid -c kaid.conf10:32
Mithsirlsuactiafner, so I seem to have that module replaced correctly. but somehow another module is loaded that I cannot find...10:32
boxyderrick shipit.ubuntu.com10:32
Mithsirso I assumed it's in the initrd.10:32
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theineslashx1896, open up a terminal, go to the directory where you unpacked kaid and type "sudo ./kaid"10:32
butcherbirdManifold: sorry dunno maybe see http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/10:33
Battlestarwell i just tried forcing the resolution to 800x600 but surprise surprise the problem just gets worse10:33
Battlestarall i see is a white blur on my screen10:33
theineslashx1896, if you think that application can be trusted that is...10:33
Battlestarso it's gotta be refresh rate10:33
mwetheine: he did and it said it started, but he missed that10:33
lsuactiafnerMithsir : you sude the problem has anything to do with the module in question?10:33
errrI updated my kernel from 2.6.12-9 to 2.6.12-10  and my nvidia stopped working:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114724  <== here is what I have tried doing to this point, Im having no luck, any one able to offer up some support?10:33
slashx1896yeah it can be.. i have friends who use it10:33
slashx1896and..10:33
slashx1896i did that and it said it cant find the conf file10:33
boxyerrrr i had that problem yesterday10:33
mweboxy: me too10:33
errrboxy: how do you solve it?10:33
nerochiaroi'm trying to setup ubuntu, but while it tries to install the base system it says that it can't find a valid kernel. could it be my installation media that's faulty, or any other idea ?10:33
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boxyerrr, i finally got it fixed though can you apt-get install nvidia-glx ?10:33
bshumateflannel: The Gimp is fairly close to Photoshop in some respects, and actually more advanced in others (built-in scripting language for example) it is definitely a re-learn however, as while Gimp is similar to Photoshop, they do not have the same "feel" at all really...10:33
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shrike_00what is the difference between the regular ubuntu and ubuntu server release10:34
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lsuactiafnerBattlestar : edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf find the line with sync, should be two lines10:34
errrboxy: did you read that link.. it explains everything I have done (yes I have btw)10:34
slashx1896When its cleary in hte kaid folder10:34
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e_machinistUhh, error message "C Compiler cannot create executables.. anyone know how to remedy this?10:34
lsuactiafnerBattlestar : then restart X with control alt backspace and dont panic10:34
slashx1896and i did do a cd to the folder10:34
mweshrike_00: the desktop is not installed on server install is one difference10:34
anoneeanyone got any advice for a linux newbie about how to get my soundcard working?10:34
boxyerrr to be honest i dont now exactly how i fixed it but i can help one sec lemme ready that10:34
theineslashx1896, then "sudo ./kaid -c kaid.conf"10:34
ManifoldThanks, butcherbird, just what I needed.10:34
Battlestaryea but i don't know what vsync values to edit it to10:34
Mithsirlsuactiafner, well, i have prepared a new usbhid that supports my wacom tablet...10:34
lsuactiafnererrr : you need to recompile the nvidia driver module10:34
theineslashx1896, did you try that?10:34
slashx1896i did that already10:34
slashx1896b410:34
Battlestarthis screen is in an ibook G3 laptop10:35
errrlsuactiafner: I never compiled it to being with, how do I do that?10:35
boxyerrr can you modprobe nvidia10:35
ManifoldCan anyone tell me why my middle button doesn't close tabs in firefox anymore?10:35
slashx1896hold on il show u on the paste bin what happens10:35
Battlestarthere is no support on compatibility of the screen10:35
lsuactiafnererrr : i make my own kernels and nvidia module so not sure what the ubuntu way is10:35
Battlestarother than default res is 800x60010:35
mwe!tell anonee about sound10:35
flannelbshumate: I can learn ;-)10:35
errrlsuactiafner: yes Im used to that from gentoo, now this ubuntu way is starting to get frustrating10:35
lsuactiafnererrr : try whatever you do to get nvdia installed in the first place and then --reinstall10:35
flannelnothing ever has the same feel these days... always something new to learn10:35
ManifoldMan.10:35
ManifoldALL the Quakenet servers are down.10:36
slashx1896theine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/685410:36
boxyerrr can you modprobe nvidia10:36
shrike_00mwe: is the ubuntu server install and recent release of ubuntu server distro the same?10:36
errrboxy: yes that went off with out hitch10:36
lsuactiafnererrr : its not a developer's OS like gentoo or slackware, annoyed the living hell out of me, but i think ubuntu is nice, i use it10:36
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theineslashx1896, looks fine, no?10:36
slashx1896yeah.. but what do i do after that10:36
lsuactiafnererrr : if you tweak ubuntu enough to suit what you have come acustomed to it works well10:36
errrlsuactiafner: after 2 1/2 years of compileing I just got fed up with waiting10:36
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mweshrike_00: the installation runs a server install if you type server at the first prompt10:36
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Mithsirlsuactiafner, do you have any idea where the usbhid that is loaded first comes from?10:37
errrboxy: now this mod is loaded Ill try restarting X10:37
slashx1896It still says that, no other prompt or w/e10:37
lsuactiafnererrr : not sure what the ubuntu way is to reinstall the correct module but there has to be a wya to do it10:37
theineslashx1896, I never used kaid (I don't even know what it actually is), so I'm afraid I can't help you with that10:37
lsuactiafnerubotu tell errr about nvidia10:37
slashx1896:\10:37
boxyerrr, kay10:37
boxybtw anyone know where xorgconfig is?10:37
butcherbird/etc/X1110:37
spacey_ki /etc/X11?10:37
slashx1896Well its a thing like irc.. with arenas so u can play games on psp, xbox,psp,gamecube, online10:37
ManifoldCan anyone tell me why my middle button doesn't close tabs in firefox anymore?10:38
lsuactiafnerMithsir : i think its probably a module related to usbhid, am not sure, dont think initrd changes will help you10:38
slashx1896my friend told me about it, but he cant help me casue he has windows10:38
ManifoldI upgraded Firefox to 1.510:38
boxybutcherbird, no its a tool. call xorgconfig10:38
boxybutcherbird, it's suppose to come packages with xorg but odviously not in ubuntu10:38
theineslashx1896, my guess is that it runs properly though, the 'd' in 'kaid' probably indicates that it is a daemon and what you posted is quite normal behaviour for a daemon.10:38
errrboxy: wow nvidia loaded..10:38
boxyerrr work now?10:38
butcherbirdboxy: maybe you want sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver10:38
lsuactiafnerboxy : yeh i used it in slackware, ubuntu has some apt-get command for it, forgot it...10:38
moretmailto:info@juegon.com?subject=INFO JUEGON10:38
Mithsirlsuactiafner, but how can there be a module loaded that I overwrote?10:38
mweboxy: use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg instaed10:38
errryeah10:38
lsuactiafnerboxy : i'll try find it10:39
moretI have installed amaroK, but it is in english...10:39
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morethow can I set it in my lang?10:39
lsuactiafnerboxy : that one mwe said :)10:39
errrboxy: I hope I dont have to modprobe every time..10:39
mweManifold: maybe you need to update your extensions or something10:39
MithsirI mean, I looked at the sizes in lsmod, they differ (before and after modprobe -r usbhid and modprobe usbhid)10:39
boxyerrr you can add it to a file one sec10:39
flannelbshumate: wish me luck... here goes again10:39
slashx1896yeah it is10:39
shrike_00mwe: I know. I am talking about the server install listed at http://mirror.ovh.net/ftp.ubuntu.com/releases/10:39
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flannelhave ordered from ship it just in case this doesnt work10:39
Battlestarso any more suggestions on how i could fix the video?10:40
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flannelbye.....10:40
sethkMithsir, so, yes, they are different versions of the same module as you suggested10:40
Manifoldmwe, "no updates were found for your extensions" Besides, this function should be inbuilt into Firefox, it shouldn't be extension dependant.10:40
e_machinistDoes anyone know why the "C Compiler cannot create executables"? I'll admit I've run into many a compile problem... but not this one.10:40
lsuactiafnerMithsir : if you made a module you should be able to make your own kernel and skip the initrd thing kinda10:40
ULffuntuhi anybody here old world mac / ubuntu ppc?10:40
mweManifold: I guess you could file a bug report then10:40
lsuactiafnere_machinist : just to make sure, is gcc installed?10:40
boxyerrr, echo nvidia >> /etc/modules10:41
theinee_machinist, install the build-essential package10:41
lsuactiafnergcc -v10:41
e_machinistlsuactiafner: yah10:41
boxyor use your fav. text editor and add nvidia to the bottom of /etc/modules10:41
e_machinisttheine: will do.10:41
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Manifoldmwe, in fact, my middle button opens up my last accessed web page.10:41
sethkMithsir, the only time you have to worry about initrd (for a module) is if the module is needed early in the bootstrap process.  That usually means a file system driver.10:42
ManifoldRegardless of whether it's the tab or not.10:42
drtydrwhy does this keep comming up??? help?? plaese??root@ubuntu:/home/bob# check.sh10:42
drtydr-bash: check.sh: command not found10:42
sethkMithsir, a video driver is certainly not needed in initrd, although putting it there won't hurt either.10:42
Mithsirlsuactiafner, I dont want to do the work of rebuilding the whole kernel.10:42
drtydrroot@ubuntu:/home/bob# ./check.sh10:42
drtydr-bash: ./check.sh: Permission denied10:42
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sethkMithsir, you don't need to rebuild the kernel.  but that's orthogonal to any issue with initrd10:42
mweManifold: if you can't find any settings for it and creating a new profile doesn't fix it and you know for sure it should work like that, file a bug is all I can say10:42
theinedrtydr, did you do "chmod +x ./check.sh"10:42
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theine?10:43
ManifoldOkies, mwe10:43
drtydrnope10:43
Mithsirseth, I am using the initrd image from breezy... the module in question is usbhid. How can I check if thats in the initrd?10:43
theinedrtydr, do that and try again10:43
Stormx2Hey all10:43
Stormx2Been on windows for about a week >_<10:43
sethkMithsir, you can list the files in the initrd.  do you know how or do you need instructions?10:43
slashx1896theine, what does it mean that its a daemon file10:43
Stormx2Still when I get a new monitor I'll coup with GNOME ;-)10:43
Telemachusshrike_00: Have a look here http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051215-5777.html10:43
Mithsirseth, I don't know how.10:43
lsuactiafnerMithsir : just an idea, boot with nousb or something like that and check if you can insert your module before the other one is loaded?10:44
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sethkMithsir, the initrd is compressed with gzip.  So:  copy the initrd file somewhere, rename it to whatever.gz, run gunzip on it, then run cpio --list < initrd.filename10:44
errrboxy: it was already there. I rebooted to make sure it would work fine, I guess I should have known this part would have been the same as gentoo but I figured that when I did the reinstalls of the driver it would modprobe for me.. lesson learned, and thanks for the help10:44
sethkMithsir, easier...10:44
theineslashx1896, http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=daemon10:44
sethkMithsir, you can gunzip it to standard out and pipe that to cpio --list10:44
lsuactiafnerits weird that nvidia module aint loaded on xstart10:45
ULffuntuhi anybody here old world mac / ubuntu ppc?10:45
Mithsirseth, thanks!10:45
slashx1896oh so its justgonna sit idely.?10:45
shrike_00Telemachus: thx10:45
sethkMithsir, if you wish to look at the actual file, instead of just the name, you can use cpio to extract the files10:45
Mithsirseth, the module is in there. how can I overwrite that?10:45
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Mithsirseth, I suppose I can overwrite the file inside that archive. can you tell me how`10:45
Mithsir?10:45
sethkMithsir, you extract all the files into a directory, copy in the new one, and then use cpio to create a new archive.  Then you gzip it and copy it into /boot10:45
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theineslashx1896, at least up to a point where someone communicates to the daemon through a client program10:46
e_machinistAnybody know of some little known but well developed Distributions?10:46
drtydrwhat am i suppost to tell chmod to do?10:46
slashx1896?10:46
lsuactiafnersethk : should he update his bootmanager grub/lilo after that?10:46
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linhhi10:46
drtydr-c -f -v -r10:46
sethklsuactiafner, only if he changes the initrd file name10:46
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theinedrtydr, -x10:46
linhdo you know what is the link for 5.10 source apt list mirror?10:46
theinedrtydr, sorry10:46
theinedrtydr, +x10:46
Stormx2w00tar c0mputar! I found a book on C Programming =D10:47
lsuactiafnerubotu tell linh about repos10:47
slashx1896theine, what do u mean through a client program? so its gonna sit idely untill i run the kaid exe file?10:47
ompaulshrike_00, there are several different packages different between the two at the end of the day you can install all the same stuff, but there are more server things on the server CD like [don't laugh]   UUCP is on the server one but you would need to take a look at the pool directory on both10:47
theineslashx1896, probably10:47
mipsHelp, anybody here with pptp vpn knowledge ?10:47
slashx1896which it wont let me run..10:47
slashx1896just great lol10:47
drtydrworks thanks. one more thing what does +x actually do10:47
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lsuactiafnereasysource rocks10:47
theinedrtydr, it makes the file executable10:47
CanYouHelpMePlzdoes xmms work on KDE ?10:48
drtydrthanks for the help (*-*)10:48
slashx1896=\10:48
kill9hi, I've just recompiled kernel 2.6.14-5 on my box using make-kpkg - when i try boot the kernel I get "ALERT!" /dev/sda5 does not exist.  Dropping to shell! Im using reiserfs, which ive built in aswell as my sata driver... any ideas?10:48
lsuactiafnerdrtydr : you can use sh file.sh also, but +x is permanent10:48
kcantinI already have my hpdeskjet setup on ubuntu locally however, I need to setup it up this machine as a print server.  Can anyone help?10:48
mweompaul: I thought UUCP hadn't been used since like the 70's or something :)10:48
theinedrtydr, try "ls -l check.sh", there should be a few x's in the first column which indicate that the file is executable. those were  not there before you did "chmod +x check.sh"10:48
ompaulmwe, see what thought did10:48
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mweompaul: he's a buggar10:49
_oPhello all10:49
ilba7r!dmix10:49
ubotudmix is, like, at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin10:49
linhhow do i update from 5.04 to 5.10? :)10:49
lsuactiafnerkill9 : did you configure the related options, sata driver ect as * and not M10:49
theinedrtydr, see for instance "man chmod"10:49
slashx1896i posted a question o he teamxlink fourm.. hope they help10:49
slashx1896since no one out of the 50 people talk..10:49
kill9lsuactiafner: yeah10:49
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slashx1896well i gtg bbl10:49
_marius_How do I logg onto root?10:49
_oP@linh why u want to update , i say never touch a running system10:49
greenpenguin13linh, change all references to breezy to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list10:50
shrike_00ompaul: thx10:50
ompaulshrike_00, np10:50
lsuactiafnerkill9 : check that your bootmanager, probably grub is configured correctly, i use lilo so cant help you10:50
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linhthanks10:50
butcherbirdlinh: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then replace all instances of hoary with breezy save and quit and type sudo apt-get update then type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:50
_marius_How do I logg onto root in ubuntu?10:50
greenpenguin13sudo bash10:51
linhthank you butcherbird10:51
nerochiaroso, no one has any idea on why the installation gives me the error message "no valid kernel found" ?10:51
lsuactiafner_marius_ : sudo su10:51
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drtydrummm what do I do about this You are either not running this script from the console10:51
drtydror simply do not have console ownership.  Requirement failed.10:51
drtydrUnable to determine XFree86 Version. Stopping now.10:51
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butcherbirdlinh: maybe it works maybe you end up with a paperweight..good luck man10:51
mwe_marius_: you don't logon as root10:51
Battlestarhow and where do i enter kernel arguments?10:51
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mwe_marius_: you can use sudo -i to get a root prompt10:51
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vermoos_marius_: type sudo passwd root to set your su password (if you havn't already done so)10:51
mwevermoos: please don't recommend that10:52
lsuactiafner_marius_ : ubuntu ppl prefer ppl not to run as root, but if you make kernels ect like me just enable it and get it over with10:52
mwevermoos: it's disabled for a reason10:52
ManifoldAh, fixed it, thanks anyway, mwe10:52
greenpenguin13you can copy sh to ~ and chown root.root; chmod 4777 it, but taht would be a large security flaw ;-)10:52
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lsuactiafnermwe : and it kinda screws ppl that do development over, gets very annoying to sudo all day whilest a root console does it better10:53
vermoosah... so sudo is more secure... (but presumably if *you* dont at least set your own su password, someone else could?)10:53
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theinedrtydr, what is this script supposed to do10:53
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theine?10:53
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mwelsuactiafner: that's where sudo -i comes in handy10:53
Battlestarhmm can someone help me to find where and when i enter kernel aruments10:53
Battlestarso then i can be done with this damn graphics problem10:53
vermoosmwe: is not setting your su insecure?10:53
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mwelsuactiafner: of course it's a royal PITA to type sudo all day if you need to work as root10:54
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drtydrits suppost to tell you which version of XFree86 you have10:54
lsuactiafnerBattlestar : when you boot the pc up and grub for permanent options10:54
mwevermoos: what's that?10:54
_marius_is it a default preset password at the sudo?10:54
theinedrtydr, have you tried running it as ordinary user?10:54
lsuactiafnerdrtydr : i got 11 consoles and only this one aint root10:54
greenpenguin13_marius_, its your password10:54
lsuactiafnerand console 11 for x10:54
vermoosare your saying sudo is always preferable to su?10:54
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theinedrtydr, but you can easily find out about that through other means10:54
mwevermoos: basically. and if you do need a root prompt, use sudo -i10:55
drtydrdo tell10:55
Battlestargrub for permanent options?10:55
lsuactiafnermwe : doesnt it time out?10:55
mwelsuactiafner: no10:55
theinedrtydr, take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:55
greenpenguin13mwe, hey i didnt know that one :)10:55
Battlestari don't quite get ya10:55
vermoosmwe: but if you fail to set your own su password, someone else could get root access and bypass sudo completely?10:55
bpuccioanyone here have GPRS working on their Ubuntu box?10:55
mwevermoos: I don't follow that logic.10:56
vermoosmwe: so better to at least set your su password (even if you dont use it :) )10:56
lsuactiafnermwe : not having root annoyed me so much when i came from slackware i didnt run ubuntu for weeks10:56
mwevermoos: how would someone gain root access to do that?10:56
theinelsuactiafner, why didn't you simply enable the root account?10:56
mwevermoos: it only opens another potetial security hole10:56
lsuactiafnerroot=/bin/sh10:56
lsuactiafnerheh10:56
_oPsomeone here, who has enlightenment E17 running, or what would u suggest? I  need more comfort under x10:57
theinelsuactiafner, what?10:57
sethklsuactiafner, you may mean  init=/bin/sh10:57
greenpenguin13_oP, e17 is nice, but not for work :)10:57
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lsuactiafnerno, if you say root= then you are booted into a root console.10:57
sethklsuactiafner, you have root access if you want it10:57
greenpenguin13crashes every 5 minutes10:57
_marius_how do I quite the sudo bash/root thing again?10:57
greenpenguin13exit10:57
BattlestarIsuactiafner, where exactly do i enter the kernel arguments, in the terminal or the boot: prompts?10:57
vermoosmwe: but all someone has to do is type "su passwd root" and set their own password, to get root access, if you didn't already do it, no?10:57
sethk_marius_, sudo -i   I think you mean10:57
greenpenguin13or Ctrl-D10:57
lsuactiafneri prefer blackbox to anything10:57
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myumyunhi10:58
sethklsuactiafner, to fluxbox?10:58
lsuactiafnerBattlestar : boot prompt when grub loads10:58
lsuactiafneryeh blackbox has a nicer menu system10:58
_oP@greenpenguin13 i need something really easy to handle like windows, trying to convince a windows fan10:58
_oP:p10:58
myumyuncan you help me?10:58
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Battlestarok what's grub?10:58
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vermoosmwe: like if a newbe doesnt know how to use sudo, better tell them about that10:58
Battlestarand which boot prompts10:58
greenpenguin13_oP, try iceWM10:58
Battlestarthere 1 that boots to the disk then another one that boots the linux kernel10:58
lsuactiafnerBattlestar : if you dont know then dont do what you want to do10:58
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lsuactiafnerlinux kernel boot prompt10:59
mwevermoos: why I don't get you10:59
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_oP@greenpenguin13 hmm, yes looks good, thank u10:59
mipsanyone here know pptp ?10:59
mwevermoos: using sudo -i is sufficient to get a root prompt10:59
theinelsuactiafner, grub is not the linux kernel boot prompt (whatever that is...)10:59
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Battlestari tried entering that command in the linux kernel boot prompts but it gave me an error10:59
mwevermoos: how would "someone" just set the root password if you don't?10:59
_oPcan i also apply this to ubuntu?10:59
_oPi guess11:00
greenpenguin13_oP, its probably easier to stick w/ gnome untill you're used to it :)11:00
mwevermoos: "someone" would need an account there with full sudo access11:00
lsuactiafnertheine : then what is it11:00
vermooswme: actually, you are right, since you need your ordinary password to set the su... sorry for being thick11:00
theinelsuactiafner, a boot manager11:00
sethk_oP, that's usually a waste of time.  Let people who like windows use windows.11:00
lsuactiafnerBattlestar : what are you trying to do?11:00
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_oP@sethk never!!!11:00
_oP:)11:00
Battlestari'm trying to reset the video mode11:00
Battlestarby using the video: kernel argument11:00
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keyhackWhat is the partitioner program's name again?11:00
myumyunguys, can you help me?11:00
_oPda suckerz going doooownn!11:01
keyhackthe console based one11:01
vermoosmwe: so its sudo -i   thanx11:01
_oPi hope!11:01
Cintiahi everybody11:01
lsuactiafnertheine : bootloader command shell, but for clarity sake, linux boot loader since it loads linux on ubuntu systems11:01
sethkmyumyun, only if you ask a question11:01
lsuactiafnerkeyhack : gparted11:01
mwevermoos: well it's your machine. fill your own boots, but I recommend against setting the root password11:01
CintiaI need help to set my home network11:01
TTilusa problem with /etc/sudoers (i think).  I want to let everybody on my computer run mythfrontend as user mythtv by running sudo -u mythtv /usr/bin/mythfrontend.  I have added ALL     ALL=(mythtv) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/mythfrontend to my sudoers and one of two accounts has this working but another one doesnt (it asks password even, which it should not do11:01
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lsuactiafnerBattlestar : the video the kernel can set is for the console, dont use it11:01
keyhacklsuactiafner: I thought there was a different one other than parted11:01
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theinelsuactiafner, it also loads windows, so does that make it a windows kernel boot prompt?11:01
lsuactiafnerBattlestar : use the xorg.conf file to change things11:01
lsuactiafnerkeyhack : no idea, i used cfdisk11:02
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vermoosmwe: they dont actually make that explicit in the docos that ive read11:02
lsuactiafnertheine : if you load windows with it, yes11:02
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TTilusthat "ALL     ALL=(mythtv) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/mythfrontend" is the only line ive added11:02
mwevermoos: maybe not.11:02
theinelsuactiafner, no11:02
keyhackYeah, I'm getting this: "ALERT! /dev/ida/c0d0p1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!", trying to figure whats going on. This is after an Ubuntu install on a RAID array in a Compaq server.11:02
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Battlestari've tried changing the cofig a million times!!!!!11:02
lsuactiafnertheine : stop being difficult, he understood me11:03
Battlestarit just isn't working11:03
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myumyunI've added the digital camera to the computer which is runing Ubuntu linux, but it hasn't recognized it! I couldn't find it in the list with the given models. How can I update this list?11:03
TTilusthe both users belong to same groups and are (methinks) similar in every other way too11:03
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Battlestari spent 3 hours resetting the sonfig but it didn't work11:03
Battlestarit would really help if i knew what the vsync ranges for this screen actually were11:03
theinelsuactiafner, ... and is probably confused at the same time11:03
Battlestarbut no i don't11:03
lsuactiafnerBattlestar : use control alt + and - (plus and minus ar far end right side of keyboard) to change resolutions11:03
TTilusstill sudo asks always password for the other user and for the other does not (ever)11:04
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Battlestari really don't think it's resolutions that's the problem11:04
_oPcy all later doing good job all of u, but now i need some good old "frag them" :)11:04
lsuactiafnerBattlestar : check the sticker on the back of the monitor11:04
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Battlestari've tried switching between 640x480 and 800x60011:04
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Battlestarit's a laptop... there is no back of the monitor11:04
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greenpenguin13:) fragging on ubuntu i hope? :D11:04
lsuactiafnerBattlestar : dont know then.11:05
CortoMaltesePlease, help me. I need help with kubuntu. I have made an great error. Query me. please11:05
mweTTilus: did you use visudo to edit the config?11:05
TTilusmwe: yes11:05
sethkTTilus, the configuration that controls when sudo asks for passwords is in /etc/sudoers.  You edit that file using the command  visudo11:05
TTilusevery time11:05
mweTTilus: good11:05
Battlestarhmm and that change resultion thing doesn't do anything11:05
Battlestarwell doesn't appear to anyways11:05
TTilussethk: thats what ive done11:05
TTilusthat "ALL     ALL=(mythtv) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/mythfrontend" is the only line ive added11:05
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sethkCortoMaltese, that's not how things work here, usually.  you'll get the best results by asking the question where everyone can see it.11:06
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lsuactiafnerCortoMaltese : nobody will send a private msg, you have to ask in this channel and someone might help you if they feel like it and know the answer11:06
zeromodgreets11:06
zeromodok i have a simple question11:06
CortoMalteseok11:06
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zeromodi have a ssh connection between two hoary machines11:06
sethkTTilus, ok, so that controls one program, when run with a particular user alias.11:06
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theineTTilus, /usr/bin/mythfrontend has to be run with root privileges?11:06
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zeromodand would like to move files from my tower to my laptop using ssh what command ?11:06
lsuactiafnerzeromod : same counts for you, dont ask to ask or state you want to ask just ASK!11:06
large2000hi11:06
TTilustheine: not root, mythtv11:06
myumyunwill you help me?11:06
zeromodok i asked11:07
lowman62zeromod: scp11:07
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CortoMalteseI have erased with kUser the root acccount. Now I am not able to re-create it. Can I?11:07
lsuactiafnerzeromod : scp files user@gw:/home/user11:07
zeromodok both home dir have same name11:07
zeromodand it keeps trying to copy to same target machine11:07
TTilussethk: "particular user alias" ?11:07
sethkmyumyun, first place to check is in the kernel configuration.  Check in the USB sections, look for your camera11:07
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simonvchi all, anyone know anything about hotplug, usb drives with no partitions and pmount?11:07
sethkTTilus, yes, mythtv I think you used11:07
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lsuactiafnerCortoMaltese : try sudo su then run passwd ?11:07
CortoMalteseyes11:08
CortoMalteseother ideas?11:08
TTilussethk: ah, got it (just went thinking it the other way round)11:08
zeromodwhat about remote desktop that works any way to copy files with vnc?11:08
large2000i don't know11:08
theinezeromod, the user's home dir is accessed by user@gw: without a need for a specific path11:08
lsuactiafnerCortoMaltese : or just somehow add the same entry your user has to the passwd and shadow files and change the username to root11:08
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sethkzeromod, you don't need remote desktop for file transfer.  there are various ways to transfer files.11:08
lowman62zeromod: perhaps winscp using wine?11:09
lsuactiafnergw.net is the address btw11:09
mweCortoMaltese: why on earth did you erase the root account? your system will not work without it11:09
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sethkzeromod, even if the remote desktop is capable of transferring files, it is usually not the best way.11:09
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myumyunIn the usb section I can see it, but when I try to export the pictures from the camera the system tells me that the camera could'nt be recognized11:09
zeromodi dont even like cedega im kinda morally opposed to wine11:09
zeromodid love to get ssh to work11:09
timfrostCortoMaltese, does sudo still work?11:09
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sethkCortoMaltese, you can recreate it but you'll have to boot a rescue cd.  if, in fact, you really deleted it.11:09
lsuactiafnerzeromod : scp is great, i use it all the time11:09
zeromodim just having trouble specifying that i want to move it from /user/home on target to /user/home remote11:09
TTilussethk: any idea why it works for one use and does not work for the other (asks password regardless of NOPASSWD:11:09
lowman62zeromod: beyond scp dunno...works for me :)11:10
mweCortoMaltese: I don't think you can actually erase the root account in linux though11:10
theinezeromod, what's the name of the remote server?11:10
zeromodspitfire11:10
timfrostzeromod, what command line are you using?11:10
zeromodbash11:10
sethkTTilus, hold on, I have a phone call11:10
theinezeromod, that's it? so you can do "ping spitfire"?11:10
lsuactiafnerCortoMaltese : when you boot linux, add root=/bin/sh to the grub prompt, then run passwd when you are booted up11:10
zeromodi can connect problem is..11:10
myumyunok, thanks. I won't find any help here :-(11:11
CortoMalteselsuaciafner:In my Pc I have two partition (windows and Linux). I windows I have modified shadow and passwd to recreate root account. It works, but the system in a not undertood way change password (root and user) e so I can enter the system, eve if there are no errors11:11
sethkTTilus, ok.  You want to enter a line for each user that you want to be able to use the program without a password11:11
zeromodboth machines are same hostname and directory main user names11:11
mwelsuactiafner: you mean init=/bin/sh I guess11:11
lsuactiafnerTue Jan 10 00:11:15 SAST 200611:11
_Saif_i have installed xmms11:11
lsuactiafnernigt11:11
sethkTTilus, the first entry in the line is the user name.11:11
mwelsuactiafner: I don't thing root=/bin/sh will work11:11
_Saif_now i want to install vdo player11:11
zeromodi go to cp a file and it copies to the same machine11:11
lsuactiafner_Saif_ : mplayer is best11:11
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sethkTTilus, so     foo ALL = NOPASSWD: /path/to/program11:11
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lsuactiafnermwe : try it11:11
mwelsuactiafner: I don't have a device by that name at least11:11
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theinezeromod, you should probably give the two machines different names11:11
sethkTTilus, one of those for each user who is to have NOPASSWD access11:11
Stormx2whats the equivilent of "emerge -C debian" on ubuntu?11:11
_Saif_i just search in Synaptic11:11
zeromodwell the laptop was at work but i need to backup so i can upgrade with ease of mind to breezy11:12
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zeromodbut my cd drive died on tower11:12
CortoMalteselsuaciafner11:12
CortoMalteselsuaciafner11:12
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_Saif_just showed mozzila plugins11:12
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theinezeromod, ok, so do you know the ip address of the remote server?11:12
mweStormx2: sudo apt-get remove debian?11:12
sethkzeromod, scp -r is quite easy to use11:12
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CortoMalteselsuaciafner:In my Pc I have two partition (windows and Linux). I windows I have modified shadow and passwd to recreate root account. It works, but the system in a not undertood way change password (root and user) e so I can enter the system, eve if there are no errors11:12
Stormx2mwe: What?11:12
zeromodok so if im using scp...11:12
Stormx2mwe: >_<11:12
Stormx2mwe: Someone told me to do that11:12
Stormx2mwe: Gah.11:12
sethkzeromod, you do something like   scp -r hostname:/home/whatever    or    scp -r ###.###.###.###:/home/whatever11:12
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sethkzeromod, that's copying from a remote host.  to copy to, it is:  scp -r /home/whatever hostname:/home/whatever11:13
Stormx2mwe: its one of those jokes which people who live in their mother's basement find funny >.<11:13
BattlestarOMG!!!!!11:13
BattlestarI actually did it!!!!11:13
zeromodwhats the -r flag?11:13
BattlestarI FIXED MY LAPTOP!!!!11:13
Stormx2Battlestar: With whom?11:13
BattlestarYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY11:13
Stormx2Battlestar: Oh.11:13
_Saif_when i'm playing audio i'm having problem its not playing11:13
sethkzeromod,  recursive (copies subdirectories, if you want that)11:13
lsuactiafnerBattlestar : how?11:13
theinezeromod, -r is recursive, you don't need that if you don't want to copy entire folders11:13
_Saif_sometimes not always11:13
lsuactiafnerCortoMaltese : no idea what you meant11:13
sethkzeromod, if you don't want recursive, of course, then don't use it, but to back up a home directory you would normally want it11:13
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Battlestarplayed around with the reconfig xserv some more11:13
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zeromodyes i def need that flag11:14
zeromodok one sec let me see11:14
flannelbshumate: u still there?11:14
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Battlestarset the max res to 640x480x7211:14
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lsuactiafnerrsync works better than scp for bacups11:14
_Saif_how can i get mplayer?11:14
Battlestarand that must have sorted out the vsync11:14
Battlestaryay!11:14
Battlestarok thanks for your help, now i'm off to finally use my laptop11:14
sethkCortoMaltese, modify things to create root with no password at all, then boot linux and create the root password the normal way11:14
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theinezeromod, if you just want to copy a file "foo" from you home directory to a remote server with ip address 192.168.0.2, you do "scp ~/foo 192.168.0.1:"11:14
Battlestarbya11:14
gahan!ubuntu11:14
ubotu[ubuntu]  an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards.11:14
mwe!tell _Saif_ about mplayer11:14
theinezeromod, that's  "scp ~/foo 192.168.0.2:" of course11:14
zeromodok11:14
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zeromodi changed laptop hostname to fireball lol11:15
lsuactiafner_Saif_ : the ubuntu mplayer package sucks so much its just very terrible, i use the cvs. vlc is also a media player11:15
flannelcan anyone tell me why my grub boot loader never showed after installing ubuntu?11:15
tolstoygnome-launch-box seems cool.  um.  is it supposed to sit in the background and wait for a key combo?  which key combo?11:15
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zeromodnow the tower is spitfire and im on fireball ssh into directory11:15
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gil-is there any software to randonmly change the desktop background?11:15
butcherbirdflannel: did you kill a chicken?11:15
lsuactiafnerflannel : i had the same problem, havent managed to solve it11:15
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_Saif_ok let me know which one you recommended me to install11:15
mwe!grub11:15
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting11:15
flannelwell that is a pain11:15
TTilussethk: should %group work too if all the users will be belonging to the same gourp?11:16
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mweread that to install grub manually11:16
flannelit sucks that I have made 3 disks, battle through umpteen installs#11:16
flannelthen have failure even when it installs11:16
CortoMaltesesethk, arleady done. I have erased in shadow file the symbol in the first line that represents root password, but the system tell me that there is a root password, different from the old one11:16
flannelkinda puts u off a little11:16
CortoMaltesesethk, arleady done. I have erased in shadow file the symbol in the first line that represents root password, but the system tell me that there is a root password, different from the old one11:16
sethkCortoMaltese, did you also delete the corresponding field in /etc/passwd?11:17
cr1stobalhello, I was wondering if someone might help me with a network/ethernet issue?11:17
sethkCortoMaltese, the other thing you can do is boot a rescue CD, then do a chroot, then set the root password.11:17
flannelI had to skip copying remaining packages also coz the disk was borking out11:17
theineflannel, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and comment the line that says "hiddenmenu"11:17
CortoMalteseyes, and I have rewrite it11:17
CanYouHelpMePlzhow does KOPETE compare to GAIM?11:17
sethkcr1stobal, ask and you'll find out.11:17
CortoMaltesesethk, yes, and I have rewrite it11:17
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sethkCortoMaltese, try the chroot method11:17
flanneltheine: where?11:17
CortoMalteseexplain me11:17
flannelsorry I am a newb11:18
mweCanYouHelpMePlz: it's differetn. it has full webcam support but gaim doesn't11:18
flannel:(11:18
theineflannel, what do you mean "where?" ?11:18
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CortoMaltesesethk, explain me11:18
flannelwell how do I edit that?11:18
CortoMaltesesethk, explain me11:18
flannelhow do i get to the file i need to edit?11:18
cr1stobalafter booting into my thinkpad (t30) I need to restart my networking stuff (/etc/init.d/network restart) in order to get ethernet working11:18
CortoMalteseI am not good in Linux11:18
cr1stobali have hoary running on a different laptop and networking works fine11:18
_Saif_ 32-bit PC (i386)11:18
_Saif_11:18
_Saif_all11:18
_Saif_11:18
_Saif_mplayer-38611:18
_Saif_11:18
_Saif_sudo apt-get install mplayer-38611:18
_Saif_11:19
theineflannel, in a terminal type "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"11:19
_Saif_intel11:19
_Saif_11:19
_Saif_mplayer-58611:19
_Saif_11:19
_Saif_sudo apt-get install mplayer-58611:19
mwe_Saif_: press ctrl-c11:19
_Saif_which one i should install?11:19
CodenameKT_Saif_: don't do that again11:19
sethkCortoMaltese, you boot a rescue cd.  the rescue cd has its own root file system.  You move to the real root file system (the one on the hard drive) using the chroot command.  Then you can use passwd, as if you had booted and become root normally11:19
flanneltheine: will that work in windows coz thats where i am just now11:19
mwe_Saif_: that will get you banned11:19
yatesy_Saif_: don't spam11:19
lsuactiafner_Saif_ : dont paste like that11:19
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lsuactiafnermplayer-58611:19
_Saif_ok sorry for that.11:19
TTilus_Saif_: go google pastebin11:19
theineflannel, no11:19
mwe_Saif_: you're lucky no ops were around and looking11:19
flannelso how do i get into ubuntu?11:20
theineflannel, well you can, but it's not worth it...11:20
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_Saif_yeah i'm.11:20
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flannelwhat do you mean its not worth it?11:20
theineflannel, wait a minute...11:20
flannelk11:20
_Saif_well how can i resize the desktop icons ?11:20
theineflannel, I think I misunderstood your problem....11:20
CortoMaltesesethk, how cani i create a rescue cd11:20
flannelah okay11:20
flannelno worries11:20
CodenameKT_Saif_: with gimp11:20
sethkCortoMaltese, the install cd is also a rescue cd11:21
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sethkCortoMaltese, boot the install cd and press f1, you'll see instructions for using it as a rescue cd11:21
theineflannel, do you see anything boot manager related when you switch on your computer?11:21
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_Saif_how11:21
flanneli didnt there11:21
_Saif_i'm newbie11:21
sethkCortoMaltese, an easier way, you can download the fedora rescue cd11:21
flannelwent straight to windows11:21
theineflannel, ok, than ignore me...11:21
CodenameKT_Saif_: u find out where the icon png or xpm file is and then open it with gimp and blow it up and then save it11:21
flannelthe ubuntu install said remove cd and reboot11:22
mweflannel: so follow the links ubotu sent you to learn how to manually install grub11:22
_Saif_Ok..11:22
flanneli installed the boot loader11:22
CortoMaltesesethk, thank u, i try11:22
zeromodcp: omitting directory /home/modzero/docs/'11:22
_Saif_i got error while i tried to download mplayer via terminal11:22
zeromodnada11:22
mweflannel: but appearently it's not installed11:22
_Saif_it says, mplayer 586 has no installation candidate11:22
lowman62flannel: where did you install the boot loader? mbr?11:22
zeromodthats after running scp /home/modzero/docs/ 192.168.x x11:22
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theinezeromod, what was the command that failed like that?11:22
theine:)11:22
flannellowman62: yes11:22
lowman62flannel: with xp?11:23
seymouri am having trouble getting rythumbox and totem to play music11:23
zeromodgiving the network ip of the remote server11:23
flannelyes11:23
zeromodnot the local ip11:23
theinezeromod, try "scp -r ~/docs 192.168.x.x:"11:23
cr1stobalshould i repeate my networking question? or does no response mean no one can help me?11:23
_Saif_ sudo apt-get install mplayer-386  can i try this11:23
theinezeromod, note the colon at the end11:23
flannelit picked it up during install and asked me if I want to install grub loader to mbr11:23
zeromodshould i be in the working directory?11:23
CodenameKT_Saif_: yes11:23
TTilus_Saif_: do you have the repo in your /etc/apt/sources.list where the package should be coming from11:23
lowman62flannel: and it just bypasses any bootloader directly into windows?11:23
theinezeromod, what? the docs folder?11:23
zeromodyeah11:23
flannelyes11:23
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TTilusis mplayer from universe?11:23
zeromodill try it either way11:23
mweflannel: it's not installed on the mbr11:23
theinezeromod, not necessarily, but if it is, ~/docs refers to it11:24
mweflannel: install it11:24
seymouri get a message saying that it failed to colse audio output sink11:24
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_Saif_i just update the repo11:24
flannelokay ... is that easy enough?11:24
CodenameKTTTilus: i think multiverse11:24
_Saif_and search it not found11:24
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theinezeromod, in general, ~ refers to your home directory. try "cd ~"11:24
lowman62flannel: it could not have installed on the mbr..more likely the disk11:24
TTilusCodenameKT: is it really non-free?11:24
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lowman62drive rather11:24
TTilusCodenameKT: (or did the multiverse mean that)11:24
CanYouHelpMePlzhow do i completely get rid of kubuntu-desktop?11:24
CodenameKTTTilus: it is debated because of the formats it plays11:24
zeromodwait i thinks she is workin11:24
seymouri am having trouble getting rythumbox and totem to play music i get a message saying that it failed to colse audio output sink11:25
_Saif_let me know is there other way to install mplayer11:25
flannelokay... so if i google for manually installing grub bootloader11:25
TTilusCodenameKT: ah, thats right11:25
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mwe_Saif_: what's wrong with sudo apt-get install mplayer-386?11:25
CodenameKT_Saif_: open aptitude do a search for mplayer11:25
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zeromodok now i have a >11:25
_Saif_i want to show you logs in pvt can i?11:25
zeromodwhere would that place the folder on the target server?11:26
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TTilus_Saif_: put universe and multiverse and apt-get update; apt-get install mplayer-58611:26
CodenameKT_Saif_: not really. because i am telling u what to do already'11:26
mweflannel: read what ubotu /msg'ed you instead11:26
flannelI cant see that11:26
mweflannel: read what he says now11:26
lsuactiafnerflannel : i installed lilo in some insane juggling effort. if you can find the bug please report it, i didnt want to bother after getting told with hoary and breezy it didnt exist.11:26
flannelwhere is it?11:26
mwe!grub11:26
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting11:26
theinezeromod, in your home directory on the remote server11:26
lowman62flannel: one second am searching for you11:26
mweflannel: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^11:26
zeromodmodzero@spitfire:~$ scp ~/home/modzero/docs/' 192.168.1.x11:26
zeromodthen i got and still have a11:26
zeromod>11:26
mweflannel: read what ubotu just said11:26
_Saif_!universe multiverse11:26
ubotu_Saif_: What?11:26
mwe!multiverse11:26
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource11:26
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zeromodnot on home dir on server11:27
zeromodsigh11:27
_Saif_TTilus, i don't know how to put unverse and multiverse11:27
flannelI appreciate the help btw folks :D11:27
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CodenameKT_Saif_: TTilus is right you probably don't have the lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list un commented to search the right repository for package u need to un comment the multiverse and then do an apt-get update and search again11:27
kiwipooanyone using doko's package of OOO 2.0.1?11:27
mwe_Saif_: then follow the links ubotu posted11:27
lsuactiafnerzeromod : i told you before scp file user@ip:/home/user    where ip is the numerical address of the machine or the hostname like google.com then11:27
theinezeromod, not "scp ~/home/modzero/docs 192.168.1.x" but "scp -r ~/docs 192.168.1.x:"11:27
mwe*sigh*11:27
_Saif_yeah let me follow11:27
CodenameKTmwe: always the same thing isn't it?11:28
TTilus_Saif_: you can also use synaptic and the nice gui for repo config11:28
fberettaHello. I have a problem booting my kubunto 5.10 DVD in my BenQ 1640. Anyone has a way to avoit the DVD to hang up at boot?11:28
mweCodenameKT: yeah11:28
CodenameKTTTilus: it has a repo config?11:28
theinezeromod, just copy and paste what's between the second pair of quotation marks and replace 'x' by the correct digit11:28
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_Saif_i tried synaptic11:28
_Saif_but did'nt found mplayer in that11:28
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_Saif_i update all the repo11:28
mwe_Saif_: hello11:28
TTilusCodenameKT: synaptic does11:28
theinezeromod, again, the colon at the end *is* important11:29
mwe_Saif_: wake up11:29
CodenameKT_Saif_: because u need to reconfigure it11:29
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mwe_Saif_: read the freakin' links ubotu posted11:29
_Saif_mwe, i'm visiting the link11:29
seymourhow do i check to see what program is using my audio output.  I am having trouble starting totem and its telling me that my audio output is in use11:29
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mwe_Saif_: good11:29
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mwe_Saif_: then read before asking anymore11:29
CortoMaltesesethk, my cd can't be a rescue cd. Can i create it?11:29
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MalapropWhat's the program that gets run when you select System -> Administration -> Printing?11:29
theinezeromod, and you can either use "scp -r /home/modzero/docs ..." or "scp -r ~/docs ...". same thing11:29
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_Saif_no ppl asking question thats why i prefer to tell'em my problem11:29
girl20check my hot pics here http://urlsnip.com/65905511:29
girl20check my hot pics here http://urlsnip.com/65905511:29
ScottGI need help with a tv tuner..11:29
Michael_austi was wiondering if anyone could tell me about the stability of the ubuntu repos, do they often go mental like the debian ones? wanting to remove almost everything?11:29
theinezeromod, but ~/home/modzero/docs most likely doesn't exist11:30
CodenameKT_Saif_: we know what ur prob is this is very common11:30
sethkCortoMaltese, sure.  You burn the downloaded image.  the bootable install cd is also the rescue cd.  The rescue cd from fedora is a lot smaller (because it isn't also an install cd) and easier to use for this particular problem11:30
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CodenameKT_Saif_: no sense to repeat unless u wanna piss us off like we r the dumb ones11:30
_Saif_CodenameKT, thats cool!11:30
CortoMalteseok11:30
CodenameKT_Saif_: I shouldn't say dumb. just uneducated. I been there11:31
lsuactiafner_Saif_ : apt-get update after you change the sources.list11:31
kiwipooMalaprop: gnome-cups-manager11:31
Malapropkiwipoo: Thanks.11:31
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_Saif_i just asked for help, not for being disgrace by you11:31
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_Saif_lsuactiafner,  ok bro!11:32
tech9inertwould seem gnome is default desktop when installing 5.0.4 eh mates?..11:32
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GTroytech9iner: yes11:32
CodenameKT_Saif_: U wanna me to disgrace u? I havn't done that yet11:32
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fberettaHello. I have a problem booting my kubunto 5.10 DVD in my BenQ 1640. Anyone has a way to avoit the DVD to hang up at boot?11:32
zeromodeureka11:32
nikolhello11:32
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GTroytech9iner: I've installed kde, and e17 too though11:32
nikolfrom greece11:33
zeromodthanks guys11:33
lsuactiafner_Saif_ : just remember we help for free and we help many ppl in many channels at the same time, i dont help anymore since i get annoyed. so keep that in mind if someone fights with you, and since i help ppl i try to be patient11:33
Eugman!dpkg11:33
_Saif_CodenameKT, i don't like your attitude11:33
CodenameKT_Saif_: because u know before bothering all us u could easily found ur answer on the web with google or at the ubuntu official homepage or user blogs or or ect ect11:33
GTroyand it's not difficult11:33
TTilus_Saif_: have you got your repo conf to include multiverse?11:33
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pmi don't understand why this distro is so popular?11:33
girl20xAorJim now has 674 fans!11:33
girl20xAorJim now has 674 fans!11:33
zeromodbeautiful ill be backed up in no time11:33
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GTroypm: the support for noobs11:33
_Saif_its ok11:33
CodenameKT_Saif_: I thought u would have liked my attitude. darn11:33
nikolmy problem!: i can't install rpm's at ubuntu ver. 5.0411:34
_Saif_CodenameKT,  its ok bro anyway thanks for you help!11:34
flannelman I am having no joy finding the info11:34
pmwho's a noob?11:34
zeromodand for the record.. yes i did not pay attention to the colon11:34
pmor what? :)11:34
TTiluspm: cool name and sleek outfit  :)11:34
ScottGI'm a noob.. where's noob support? :)11:34
CodenameKT_Saif_: oh, no prob. glad i could be of assistance11:34
theineCodenameKT, please wither change your attitude or leave11:34
pmcool name? i don't think so :P11:35
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nikoldo u know how you can install rpm at ubuntu???11:35
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nikoldo u know how yo install rpm at ubuntu???11:35
Michael_austnikol you have to use alien to convert it into a .deb package11:35
CodenameKTtheine: I leave ur comment alone.11:36
zeromodnikol you mean install rpm files11:36
bimberinikol: using "alien" - are you sure there's no ubuntu package for whatever it is11:36
CodenameKTScottG: u need help with tv tuner?11:36
theineCodenameKT, sad to hear that11:36
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lupzhi, how i can change the default language ?11:36
mweinstalling an rpm by creating a deb with alien could break things though11:36
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ScottGyeah11:36
CodenameKTScottG: what is your prob11:36
buliois it possible to get a SMC wireless USB adapter working under Linux?11:36
ScottGI'm just new and the commands themselves in terminal are new to me..11:37
ScottGinstalling this: http://usbvision.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=documentation11:37
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zeromodim not sure bulio. but i got my belkin wifi pcmcia to work using ndiswrapper and it was a breeze11:37
Michael_austthe linuxcook book from no starch press is pretty good about commands most of it is command oriantated11:38
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zeromodmaybe ndis could wrap the adapter as well?11:38
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ScottG"make" "make install" "make modprobe"11:38
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zeromodman scp is nifty command indeed11:38
mwemake modprobe?11:38
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MrRioWhy is it that Java doesnt intergrate with GTK2 under Ubuntu? They look like native GTK apps under fedora11:38
adam_wolgorhello11:38
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flannelmwe: This page says I need the live cd which I do not havehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows11:39
lupzhi, how i can change the default language ?11:39
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Michael_austwas wondering if anyone could tell me about the ubuntu repos, do they often go all crazy like the debian ones wanting to remove everything or are the pretty much ok all the time?11:39
CodenameKTScottG: I cannot explain it any better than the doc. Your going to hafta read carefully and follow directions. I suggest you read the entire doc and then go through the steps11:40
mweflannel: I haven't used the install cd for recovery but I beleive it's possible. press f1 when it boot and read what it says11:40
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sorush20I can't mount a floppy cause I keep getting the message that the could not determine the file system.. any help please. .11:40
ScottGok but just inputting the commands with no identifiers doesn't work..11:40
flannelokay... will give that a go then11:40
TTiluslupz: system -> control -> language (or something like that)11:40
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lupzTTilus: i need to do that from a shell11:40
flannelwhere should i be installing grub to then?11:40
theineScottG, what do you mean by no identifiers?11:40
ScottGit's as if Im supposed to know what else to add and I don't11:40
flannelmbr when it asks?11:40
flannelor did that install it to the linux drives mbr?11:41
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mweflannel: it doesn't ask. you tell it at the shell11:41
ManifoldGuys.11:41
fberettaanyone of you has a DVD BenQ 1640?11:41
flannelI have installed on a separate drive11:41
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ManifoldIs there a way to set a program to a hot key?11:41
nikolwhere i can find the utility alien??11:41
theineScottG, the documentation is indeed rather cryptic for somebody who has never done this before11:41
QMarioHello thoreauputic and Seveas!!! :)11:41
ManifoldIs there a way to set a program to a hot key alt + z opens xterm11:41
mweflannel: you still need grub at the mbr11:41
Michael_austit shoudl be in the repos nikol11:42
bimberisorush20: see my reply in #kubuntu :)11:42
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flannelok...  I will go and have another try11:42
flannelthanks11:42
HaiKaratenikol : apt-get that shizzle!11:42
Manifold!keybindings11:42
ubotuManifold: What?11:42
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Manifold!keybind11:42
ubotuManifold: Are you on ritalin?11:42
Manifold!hotkey11:42
ubotuManifold: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about11:42
Manifold:E11:42
mweManifold: please /msg the bot11:43
CodenameKTScottG: if u cannot configure using top method then use the second method as written in doc.11:43
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Mx16Everytime I try to start Ubunti 5.10 I get "Failed to start X Server (graphical interface) blah blah what does this mean????11:44
mweMx16: it means it's misconfigured11:44
theineScottG, you will need to install the linux-headers-686 package for this to work11:44
Pygifreaky: ping11:44
Pygimx16: just start "sudo dexconf"11:45
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ScottGI did install the headers11:45
theineScottG, actually linux-headers-ARCH, where ARCH is your architecture11:45
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TTiluslupz: language settings are done by setting LANG and LC_* environment variables11:45
johntravoutaoi11:45
theineScottG, ah, ok11:45
ScottGI guess this is all just too far over my head..11:45
johntravoutaoooooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii11:45
theineScottG, but where does it fail?11:46
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johntravoutaalguem aqui fala em portugues?11:46
lupzTTilus: that aren't reboot persistent11:46
theineScottG, you downloaded and unpacked the tarball, right?11:46
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ScottGI tried the first one.. in the directory "make" worked.. "make install" didn't11:46
mwe!pt11:46
ScottGyes11:46
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.11:46
ManifoldIs there a way to set a program to a hot key alt + z opens xterm (hotkey)11:46
theineScottG, try "sudo make install"11:46
TTiluslupz: /etc/environment11:46
Pygimwe: now your changing seveas :P11:46
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mwePygi: ?11:47
lupzTTilus: i will try with that11:47
lupzTTilus: thanjs11:47
TTiluslupz: /etc/default/gdm11:47
Pygimwe: bah, nothing :P11:47
sorush20what file system should a windows xp floppy be ?11:47
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sorush20I'm having problems mounting any floppy please help .11:47
theineScottG, "make install" is the easy part, if "make" didn't give any errors, that's great11:47
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TTiluslupz: of course editing those wont directly affect you current environment, so you have to "export LANG=buah" anyway11:47
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|37th|TriggerHello all :)11:48
mwesorush20: probably vfat11:48
jmanI have a dynamic IP address. How would i setup ubuntu to email me the IP when it changes/or as a job in cron?11:48
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lupzTTilus: yep :)11:48
CodenameKTtheine: if he wasn't su for make install i will shoot myself now11:48
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Belgainright.... apologies for reasking this question, but i tried asking in #debian, and got told to ask here instead:  does anyone know how to disable autostarting of software RAID arrays at boot time?  my md devices are getting autostarted, and it's interfering with EVMS array detection11:48
theineCodenameKT, :)11:48
johntravoutaooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee11:48
ScottGmake -C /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build SUBDIRS=/home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src modules11:48
ScottGmake[1] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386'11:48
ScottG  CC [M]   /home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src/i2c-algo-usb.o11:48
ScottG  CC [M]   /home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.o11:48
ScottG/home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.c: In function `attach_inform':11:48
ScottG/home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.c:3134: error: storage size of 'tun_addr' isn't known11:48
ScottG/home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.c:3154: error: `T_ANALOG_TV' undeclared (first use in this function)11:48
ScottG/home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.c:3154: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once11:48
sorush20I keep getting unknown file type please help .11:48
ScottG/home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.c:3154: error: for each function it appears in.)11:48
Solitario_RJjohntravouta eaeeeee!!!!!11:48
PygiScott:: STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP11:49
ScottG/home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.c:3156: error: `ADDR_UNSET' undeclared (first use in this function)11:49
TTilusScottG: learn pastebin11:49
ScottG/home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.c:3157: error: `TUNER_SET_TYPE_ADDR' undeclared (first use in this function)11:49
CodenameKTah crap another paster11:49
PygiNOW STOP IT11:49
ScottG/home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.c:3134: warning: unused variable `tun_addr'11:49
ScottGmake[2] : *** [/home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.o]  Error 111:49
PygiSTOP IT SCOOOT11:49
PygiNOW11:49
ScottGmake[1] : *** [_module_/home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src]  Error 211:49
ScottGmake[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386'11:49
Solitario_RJEH NOIX Q TA, johntravouta!11:49
ScottGmake: *** [default]  Error 211:49
PygiPLEASE SEVEAS11:49
ScottGsorry :)11:49
mweScottG: press ctrl-c NOW!11:49
ScottGI did already..11:49
TTilusScottG: SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!11:49
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jorgpwow11:49
theineTTilus, easy buddy...11:49
TTilusScottG: good11:49
QMarioTTilus, whoa!!!11:49
sorush20http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/685511:49
QMarioYeah.11:49
ScottGwoah.. guess some people's connection is slow..11:49
Pygiomg :/11:49
_Saif_whaahahooo11:49
Belgaini've made sure the partitions aren't type 0xfd, and i've made sure that mdamd isn't being called in my /etc/init.d/ scripts11:49
|37th|TriggerDoes anyone know much about swapping files?11:49
CodenameKTgotta love the pasters11:50
_Saif_i can't login as Super User11:50
mwe_Saif_: you shouldn't11:50
Belgainhow else are RAID arrays detected and started in the boot process?11:50
mwe_Saif_: use sudo11:50
CodenameKT_Saif_: lol is this ur computer?11:50
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_Saif_lol yeah!11:50
TTilusScottG: not slow connection, flood is plain annoying11:50
Pygiubotu tell _Saif_ about root11:50
johntravoutaalguem com msn11:50
nikolwhere i can find ubuntu's packages??11:50
Pygiscott: read title11:50
Pyginikol: in repositories?11:50
ManifoldIs there a way to set a program to a hot key alt + z opens xterm (hotkey program?)11:50
_Saif_let me follow the link11:50
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jmanI have a dynamic IP address. How would i setup ubuntu to email me the IP when it changes/or as a job in cron?11:51
sorush20I can't mount in kde any help please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/685511:51
mweManifold: look around in the menus. it's there. I don't use gnome so I can't tell you where11:51
TTilusnikol: packages.ubuntu.com11:51
Pygisorush: please #kubuntu11:51
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TTilusnikol: if you want to browse and search11:51
Pygittilus: don't suggest that, no regular user can solve dependencies on its own :/11:51
Manifoldmwe, I use Xcfe 4, I know there's a way in Metacity..11:52
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theineScottG, ok, so make didn't actually work, but I'd keep trying, you're not very far from success I believe11:52
TTilusPygi: "if you want to browse and search", nothing about installing, is there  :P11:52
Pygittilus: ah, true that11:52
theinebut I have to go now...11:52
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mwesorush20: you need to learn the mount command11:52
mwesorush20: you need to tell it a mount point11:53
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thegladiatorubotu, tell sorush20 about mount11:53
neofilobuenas11:53
neofiloalguienhabla espaol11:53
mwe!es11:54
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:54
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zeromodmount /media/cdrom or if its an iso file use loopback mount -o loop nameof.iso /media/cdrom  im using media cdrom but yours may differ according to fstab i beleive and you probably need to be sudo to mount using command line11:54
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Cintiaahhhhhhhh I just want to set my network.11:54
neofiloalguien sabe decirme un scannedor de vulnerabilidades para ubuntu11:55
cafuego!es11:55
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:55
mwecafuego: I told him11:55
cafuegoneofilo: kun je dat lezen?11:55
Cintiathe linux will be the client and the xp the server11:55
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neofilocafuego, k iduoma usas11:55
cafuegomwe: Soemtimes you need a bludgeon11:55
neofilospain11:55
neofilospanish11:55
cafuegoneofilo: Wat? Waar heb je het over?11:55
sorush20guys how do I mount11:55
QMarioHello cafuego!!! :)11:55
spacey_ki!nl11:55
ubotuOp #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.11:55
cafuegoneofilo: Als je spaans wilt praten moet je naar #ubuntu-es gaan.11:56
mwesorush20: read what ubotu told you11:56
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_Saif_is this correct command, somebody told me to disable auto dialing when ubuntu starts "chmod -x /etc/init.d/ppp"11:56
|37th|TriggerCan somebody help me to moveing files please?11:56
cafuego_Saif_: No.11:56
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Cintiasomebody help me to set my network, please11:56
cafuego_Saif_: There should be a file called /etc/ppp_on_boot11:56
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Stormx2Anyone here use Audacious?11:56
sorush20mwe its taking about mounting a hard disk I want to mount an fdd11:56
sorush20fdd11:56
sorush20f11:56
neofilocafuego, thenq11:56
_Saif_Ok, let me know because i wanted to disable auto dial11:57
mwesorush20: same procedure11:57
Dahey11:57
Daheyhey11:57
Dahey hey hey hey11:57
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Dayeah baby11:57
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Dahey hey hey hey11:57
_Saif_cafuego, what should be the correct command11:57
mwesorush20: probably sudo mkdir -p /mnt/floppy && sudo mount /dev/fd0 -t vfat /mnt/floppy or something like that11:57
cafuego_Saif_: rm /etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot11:58
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_Saif_100% sure!11:58
_Saif_?11:58
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cafuego_Saif_: According to /etc/init.d/ppp, it won'yt dila if that file's not there.11:58
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Cintia:(11:59
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phoghawkHey guys. Who's got problems?11:59
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_Saif_according to ppp on boot its just indicate11:59
flannelhello again11:59
CintiaI got!11:59
_Saif_but its ok let me give a try11:59
_Saif_should i?11:59
cafuego_Saif_: Whereas "chmod -x /etc/init.d/ppp" will give you an error on bootup.11:59
flannelI managed to get into ubuntu but had no graphical environment at all...11:59
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flanneli changed the boot order of my hd's in the bios and got the grub loader12:00
cafuego_Saif_: Look at line 7 of /etc/init.d/ppp12:00

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