[12:00] <bud_> tamale: than i think it should work on kernel 2.6
[12:00] <bud_> tamale: wait a second
[12:00] <tamale> bud_:  how do i try - it's just two RPM files
[12:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: http://logitech-en-amr.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/logitech_en_amr.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=74&p_created=1083959732&p_sid=1Pwuq7Zh&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MSZwX3Byb2RzPTg0NCw1JnBfY2F0cz0mcF9wdj0yLjUmcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PWxpbnV4&p_li=&p_topview=1
[12:00] <globe> timfrost, I was afraid you would say that (I would).
[12:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> whoa
[12:00] <Papoose> how do I install the Samba package on Ubuntu?
[12:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sorry people
[12:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> I had no idea the link would be that long O_O
[12:01] <bimberi> mjbjr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport and http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[12:01] <mjbjr> thanks
[12:01] <Mitch_Owen> Hey guys, anyone know of a general wireless controller program for ubuntu?
[12:01] <bud_> tamale: thats no good
[12:01] <mika0800> confirmed: the *wrong* 3c905 module is NOT loaded. So, it seems that even if the kernel tries to load a wromg module, it will not be loaded because a 905 NIC does not exist
[12:01] <bimberi> mjbjr: yw :)
[12:01] <Mitch_Owen> like KwifiManager without installing KDE?
[12:01] <IdleOne> !tell Papoose  about samba
[12:01] <tamale> bud_:  well, that's what linksys has on their site
[12:01] <Delvien> Anyone remember how to check your FPS??
[12:01] <bud_> tamale: http://network.free-driver-download.com/Linksys/14924/Linksys-EG1032-v2-Gigabit-Network-Adapter-Driver-1.30-Windows-Linux.html
[12:01] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: here's what it said "bus 001 device 003: ID 041e:401c creative techonology, ltd webcam nx [PD1110] 
[12:01] <bud_> have you tried that
[12:02] <bimberi> ubotu tell Delvien about glxgears
[12:02] <joshua> anyone?
[12:02] <tamale> bud_:  I think that's exactly waht i downloaded
[12:02] <joshua> how do i clear my Creative nano, i deleted the folders but the mp3 player only has 53 mb space and its a 256mb :( can anyone help?i used the creative cd software in windows to clean it before but i dont know an app for linux ??
[12:02] <bud_> tamale: that is zip file
[12:02] <mika0800> And, again the network does not work at all. Last time I got it working using some command I found from a Linux guide book. (And doing so misusing my network, because the book only gave a hint how to assign a permanent IP but not how to order the NIC to get one by DHCP)
[12:02] <bimberi> joshua: empty the Trash ?
[12:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: k
[12:03] <tamale> bud_:  Yes, and in the "linux" folder in that zip file, there are two more folders - 2.2 and 2.4, and in each of those folders are two RPM files
[12:03] <bud_> tamale: ah ok
[12:03] <Delvien> bimberi thanks
[12:03] <huhn_2punkt0> (00:00:07) <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: you can always install normal ubuntu (with gnome) and go from there| I'll try that
[12:03] <egon_> Can anybody give me a pointer at installing Unbuntu (5.10, server install) on a SATA drive?  The install procedure doesn't see it...
[12:03] <huhn_2punkt0> but not today
[12:03] <bimberi> Delvien: np :)
[12:03] <huhn_2punkt0> already late
[12:03] <huhn_2punkt0> thanks
[12:03] <tamale> bud_:  WAIT
[12:03] <tamale> bud_:  there's a install-612.tar.bz2 file too
[12:03] <Delvien> bimberi thats a ridiculous command :p
[12:03] <pinkisntwell> huhn_2punkt0: you might want to check to make sure your network card is supported in ubuntu
[12:04] <tamale> lemme put that on my flash drive and put it on the linux machine
[12:04] <bimberi> Delvien: lol
[12:04] <Orborde> I have a problem involving chroot. I'm on a 64bit system, and since Flash doesn't run 64bit, I set up a chroot to contain Firefox and other 32bit-dependent things. The problem is, however, I cannot get them to share the same /etc/resolv.conf ; the chroot's version never gets updated by the DHCP thing, even though I've tried hardlinking it to the main system copy. Why won't hardlinking work?
[12:04] <globe> thanks all....appreciate your help and patience with an n00b! ;-D
[12:04] <bud_> tamale: untar the package
[12:05] <bango> hoy hoy
[12:05] <OldSpiceAP> hoy ho
[12:05] <bango> what's all this then?
[12:05] <bud_> tamale: what kernel versio do you have
[12:05] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: any idea on which driver I should use
[12:05] <tamale> bud_:  2.6
[12:05] <poningru> !tell bango about ubuntu
[12:06] <bud_> tamale: type uname -r
[12:06] <narles> does firefox play embedded movies with ubuntu using totem ???
[12:06] <OldSpiceAP> Anyone here up for a major helpme challenge? No one else understands my problem.
[12:06] <OldSpiceAP> ?
[12:06] <bango> I just installed ubuntu yesterday
[12:06] <narles> i read on the forums that it doesn't.. so i installed mplayer plugins.. but i am starting to like totem...
[12:06] <IdleOne> OldSpiceAP>  ask
[12:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: Working on it...
[12:06] <sapo> hi all, anyone here using nvidia with 3d in dapper?
[12:06] <_jason> narles, by default it should, but I prefer the mplayerplug-in
[12:06] <Delvien> i wish they had more Mp3 player support other than ipod...
[12:06] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: same here
[12:06] <diablo69> :)
[12:06] <joshua> bimberi: thanks :) such an obvious solution hehe .. had me baffled :D
[12:06] <bud_> tamale: what does uname -r said
[12:06] <tamale> bud_: 2.6.12-8-386
[12:06] <mika0800> yes: the book gives something like this: ifconfig 192.168.0.26 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
[12:06] <OldSpiceAP> Why would the entire contents of my home directory dissappear?  about 10 gigs ?
[12:07] <OldSpiceAP> its not moutned seperately or anything.. it is just gone.
[12:07] <narles> _jason, mplayer works better as a firefox plugin you would say?
[12:07] <mika0800> So, how do I do otherwise the same but I want to use DHCP ?
[12:07] <OldSpiceAP> only the mnt and Desktop directories are left
[12:07] <_jason> narles, yep
[12:07] <bango> jigs, that's unfortunate OldSpiceAP
[12:07] <bud_> tamale: try to upgrade your kernel to 2.6.12-9-386
[12:07] <tamale> bud_:  don't I need a netowkring connection to do that
[12:07] <bimberi> joshua: np (i had the same baffling experience) :)
[12:08] <edoardo> i've done it
[12:08] <edoardo> you guys
[12:08] <mika0800> And, I want to stay at 2.6.10 kernel, but still would like to get my network working !
[12:08] <OldSpiceAP> Well, I know what I was doing when it happened... I attempted to run limewire as root, because running as a regular user failed.  Running as root worked fine.  I decided to log out and in to let bashrc update and my home dir was empty
[12:08] <edoardo> all i had to do was set BroweAddress to IF(eth0)
[12:08] <narles> does anyone know how to check how much space is used and free on your ubuntu partition?
[12:08] <bud_> tamale: yes
[12:08] <bud_> tamale: try this http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=165245&st=0
[12:08] <midwinter> narles: df -h
[12:08] <kameron> New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)
[12:08] <kameron> can i give it just any ttf?
[12:09] <_jason> narles, others swear by the vlc plugin.  Some like using the MediaPlayerConnectivity extension to play embedded videos in there preferred player
[12:09] <_jason> narles, in a terminal: df
[12:09] <mika0800> how come the command ifconfig knows what is "eth0" but the command "ifup" does not ?!
[12:09] <_jason> narles, 'df -h'  may be easier to read
[12:09] <stevr1it> hi
[12:09] <Hendy> narles: of the choices available, I'd probably pick the mplayer plugin for Firefox.
[12:10] <stevr1it> can you help me. I have two problems. I have installe LICQ e gnome ICQ but both do not work
[12:10] <bud_> tamale: is that good link that i gave you
[12:11] <WildZeck> stevr1it, try gaim
[12:11] <egon_> Anybody have experience trying to get a Penguin Computing Relion 1300 to install with Breezy?  Mine won't seem to see the hard drive...
[12:11] <jamie> I am having an Issue with Ubuntu install program. I am installing on sata drives and want to use a custom partitioning scheme. I am used to Gentoo. I am trying /boot as etc3, /home as reiserfs, / as reiserfs and swap. It keeps failing with these custom options. But if I use the automatic options it installs fine. Is it the reiserfs? or does it not like custom options?
[12:11] <tamale> bud_:  It says he got it working using syskonnect
[12:11] <tamale> bud_:  I don't know what that is
[12:11] <bud_> tamale: look that part for kernel
[12:11] <stevr1it> ok
[12:12] <bud_> tamale: which module you have to load or out it in kernel
[12:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: http://zc0302.sourceforge.net/zc0302.php?page=cams and http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html look promising. :)
[12:12] <bud_> tamale: put it in
[12:12] <bud_> tamale: have you ever compiled kernel
[12:12] <tamale> bud_:  Nope
[12:12] <tamale> bud_:  This is my first lnux instal :] 
[12:12] <narles> _jason, i would use VLC.. but i'm having problems with sound.. VLC can't find the audio codec qdm2...
[12:12] <jamie> Help! I am having an Issue with Ubuntu install program. I am installing on sata drives and want to use a custom partitioning scheme. I am used to Gentoo. I am trying /boot as etc3, /home as reiserfs, / as reiserfs and swap. It keeps failing with these custom options. But if I use the automatic options it installs fine. Is it the reiserfs? or does it not like custom options?
[12:13] <bud_> tamale: well this could help
[12:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: Also http://forum.kanotix.net/PNphpBB2-viewtopic-t-4513.html <- this page mainly has instructions that someone else was following, but apparently they have the same camera as you.
[12:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: It's where I picked up the other two links.
[12:13] <mika0800> any idea, how to use ifconfig if I want to configure my NIC  using DHCP ?
[12:13] <Hendikins|Work> jamie: Patience. If somebody can assist you they will do so. Please wait at least 10 minutes before repeating the question.
[12:13] <tamale> bud_:  Unfortunately, I have to run right now... can I reach you via AIM / ICQ / MSN lateR?
[12:13] <johnes123> i cannot mount an external 80GB FAT32 parition in gnome--any ideas?
[12:13] <bud_> tamale: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85064
[12:13] <mika0800> (with fixed IP, I already would know the answer)
[12:13] <narles> _jason, i installed the win32 codecs.. and even the gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.8.7 file which supposdly fixes qdm2, but it didn't help VLC either
[12:13] <bud_> tamale: try with thic
[12:13] <jamie> Hendikins, sorry
[12:14] <Hendikins|Work> jamie: It's just it gets a bit hectic in here, that's all :-)
[12:14] <_jason> narles, according to http://www.videolan.org/vlc/features.html, vlc doesn't have qdm2 as a feature.  I don't know if there is a way to add it in
[12:14] <narles> _jason, ok.. so other forms of media that don't require it should work with VLC?
[12:15] <_jason> narles, should.  Do you have an example file I could try that requires qdm2?
[12:15] <bud_> tamale: have you seen messages
[12:15] <Kr0ntab> whats goin on people...
[12:15] <OldSpiceAP> no one knows eh lol sad times
[12:15] <Kr0ntab> howdy...
[12:15] <tamale> bud_:  yes, i added you to ICQ
[12:15] <tamale> thanks
[12:15] <bdevel> Hello World,  I think i hosed my install... I did a "apt-get -f install" and it removed move like 50 packages... And now I can't install anything new because it complains I have a newer version of cpp-4.0, gcc++4.0 then the default ubuntu install.. So, how do I force it to install packages (even if I have newer verions)
[12:15] <bud_> tamale: np
[12:15] <tamale> bud_: my icq is 123249595
[12:15] <narles> _jason, yes
[12:15] <gnomefreak> OldSpiceAP, what is the issue you are having?
[12:15] <OldSpiceAP> I think I'll just ditch ubuntu then - this crap shouldn't happen.... well.. or at least ditch ext3
[12:15] <edoardo> you guys, does anyone in here use ivman?
[12:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: Try 'sudo modprobe spca5xx'
[12:15] <bud_> tamale: ok i will add you
[12:15] <OldSpiceAP> Why would the entire contents of my home directory dissappear?  about 10 gigs ?
[12:16] <OldSpiceAP> gnomefreak sadly no one has an answer
[12:16] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: can't I install the source code for the kernel with a deb package
[12:16] <gnomefreak> OldSpiceAP, have you done a mv command?
[12:16] <OldSpiceAP> no
[12:16] <johnes123> I cannot mount an external 80GB FAT32 partition in gnome -- any ideas?
[12:16] <gnomefreak> hmmmmm
[12:16] <pundai> OldSpiceAP, i've used linux for 6 years, ext3 for a while now and i've never had that... are you sure you didn't do something stupid
[12:16] <pundai> (i've done that)
[12:16] <gnomefreak> OldSpiceAP, what version of ubuntu?
[12:16] <mika0800> ok, for others who have network problems with 2.6 -series kernels: I previously reported  that I got my NIC at least partially working. True, but I only did it by misusing my network by assigning a fixed IP even when I should have udes DHCP instead, but do not know how
[12:16] <clanpipe> hi
[12:16] <ColonelPanique> OldSpiceAP : hint: whatever happened, is probably your own fault. ;-)
[12:16] <OldSpiceAP> lol its 5.10
[12:16] <OldSpiceAP> I figured that but I know exactly what commands  I did that caused it - but don't see why they did
[12:17] <pundai> well you ran something as root apparently
[12:17] <pundai> and you probably did sudo
[12:17] <johnes123> {i cannot mount an external 80GB FAT32 parition in gnome--any ideas?}
[12:17] <egon_> Anybody have experience trying to get a Penguin Computing Relion 1300 (primary HD is SATA) to install with Breezy?  Mine won't seem to see the hard drive...
[12:18] <mika0800> I think I will try the same again. Or, should I do *almost* the same but get a fixed IP outside of my DCHP area? (I limited the DHCP area so the last byte is always 0..127) so I can use numbers over 128 for fixed IP's, right ?
[12:18] <narles> _jason, this movie won't play in VLC when i downloaded and tried it
[12:18] <narles> _jason, http://www.collegehumor.com/movies/1647089/
[12:18] <thegladiator> #kubuntu
[12:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: Does modprobe spca5xx work?
[12:18] <diablo69> nope
[12:18] <ColonelPanique> pundai : from his exaplanation of the issue, that really has nothing to do with it.  he lost most of his home directory content, which he probably owned anyway, so he wouldn't have needed root privs for that.
[12:18] <diablo69> can't find modporb
[12:18] <diablo69> modprob
[12:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> modprobe
[12:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> 'sudo modprobe spca5xx'
[12:19] <OldSpiceAP> I'm putting together a synopisis of exactly what I did
[12:19] <gnomefreak> OldSpiceAP, 5.10 hasnt had that issue ever as far as i remember seeing. if you did some kind of cp or mv or something commadn than look to where you copied it or moved it to. as for ditching ext3 that wouldnt have caused it it would have caused alot more issue than just that, btw ext2 and 3 are same 3 has journeling. open up a file search and search for a file you had in home dir. it should be somewhere once you find that file yo
[12:19] <gnomefreak> u can bet the rest are same place than just mv it back to /home/username
[12:19] <OldSpiceAP> it'll be in nopaste in a sec
[12:19] <_jason> narles, ha I remember this episode.  Plays fine for me but i compiled vlc8.5 from source
[12:19] <pinkisntwell> OldSpiceAP said that limewire did this after he ran it with sudo
[12:19] <diablo69> ohh one sec
[12:19] <narles> really
[12:19] <OldSpiceAP> searches don't see the files
[12:19] <OldSpiceAP> grep either
[12:20] <gnomefreak> thats not good :(
[12:20] <CodenameKT> l
[12:20] <narles> _jason, haha... was a pretty good episode back in the day
[12:20] <nekostar> eh
[12:20] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: didn't do anything
[12:20] <narles> _jason, so does VLC support most media types.. sans ones that need qdm2?
[12:20] <nekostar> when i use traceroute www.sitehere.com i only get 1 * * * 2 * * *  etc
[12:20] <nekostar> what could possibly be wrong with it
[12:21] <_jason> narles, yeah, won't play wmv either I think
[12:21] <[|Triple|] > !breezy
[12:21] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: k
[12:22] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: what did you do yesterday
[12:22] <narles> _jason, does Totem or mplayer?
[12:22] <Darky469> annyone  has  experience  with  WINE ?
[12:22] <johnes123> i cannot mount an external 80GB FAT32 parition in gnome--any ideas?
[12:22] <mwe> Darky469: well some
[12:22] <OldSpiceAP> http://rafb.net/paste/results/6t9ANy12.nln.html  <--- That is what I did that caused this issue
[12:22] <OldSpiceAP> diablo69 I have some wine expirence yes
[12:23] <Darky469> oke  mwe ,  can u  help  me  with it  ?
[12:23] <_jason> narles, yes, once you install w32codecs.  I'd recommend you install totem-xine though (the default one uses gstreamer)
[12:23] <Kr0ntab> johnes123, connected via USB?
[12:23] <OldSpiceAP> though I'm on a breaking habit today
[12:23] <mwe> Darky469: I don't know. ask and I'll try
[12:23] <johnes123> Kr0ntab, yes
[12:23] <_jason> ubotu, tell narles about w32codecs
[12:23] <egon_> Anybody have experience trying to get a Penguin Computing Relion 1300 (primary HD is SATA) to install with Breezy?  Mine won't seem to see the hard drive...
[12:23] <narles> _jason, i have the w32codecs installed
[12:24] <Darky469> i have  win  installed  on my  ubunbu,  and  now  i wanna  use  a  application  from windows
[12:24] <OldSpiceAP> which app specifically?
[12:24] <mwe> Darky469: yes?
[12:24] <narles> _jason, i would be willing to compile VLC from source.. how did youd o it?
[12:24] <_jason> narles, then you should be able to play wmv's except for the latest version.  I think wmv10?
[12:24] <Darky469>  but  the  only thing  a  get acces  to is  notepad
[12:24] <mwe> Darky469: you know only a very limitid number of programs work?
[12:24] <Darky469>  that works
[12:24] <Kr0ntab> by default ubuntu's kernel has the usb storage modules loaded...  you simply need to mount the drive with the appropriate commands...
[12:24] <Kr0ntab> what have you tried
[12:24] <OldSpiceAP> actually alot os stuff works now
[12:24] <OldSpiceAP> most everything
[12:24] <Darky469>  no  i'm new  under linux
[12:24] <OldSpiceAP> at least somewhat
[12:24] <mwe> um no
[12:24] <Darky469>   tell u what i  want
[12:24] <mwe> like less than 1%
[12:25] <narles> _jason, my goal is to use mplayer for embedded movies.. and VLC for movies on my system
[12:25] <sagarp> every time i boot up, X tries to use nvidia driver 7667 instead of 8168, and i have to reinstall the 8178 module before st arting X...what's going on!?
[12:25] <OldSpiceAP> True I only run maybe 10-20 win apps but they all work
[12:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: yesterday?
[12:25] <Darky469>  i  try to get  the  explorere  or opera  under windows  working in wine
[12:25] <mwe> Darky469: that's probably hard. frankscorner.org has guides
[12:25] <OldSpiceAP> gnomefreak - any ideas on my troubles?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> OldSpiceAP, did you run locate <packagename> by chance by what you said and what i read there is something else wrong
[12:25] <_jason> narles, I just followed this: http://www.nanocrew.net/2005/09/01/compiling-vlc/ .  However when you install something from source do not use 'make install'.  Instead use 'checkinstall'.  Checkinstall will create a package so you can easily remove it in synaptic or apt-get.  I just use mplayer for everything.
[12:26] <OldSpiceAP> opera has a linux native version
[12:26] <damnhil> where can I find the log of apt-get to search the packages I installed?
[12:26] <mjbjr> looking at the package db, I see this:   sylpheed (2.1.1-1ubuntu0.1) [universe]  [security]       what do 'universe' and 'security' mean?
[12:26] <_jason> ubotu, tell narles about checkinstall
[12:26] <johnes123> when i use mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/USB i get mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[12:26] <mwe> Darky469: and I believe winehq has a compatiblity list
[12:26] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: yeah like yesterday I was on the hwy with my underglow on in my 94 eclispe, and I raced a acura rsx and beta it :)
[12:26] <OldSpiceAP> gnomefreak - I'm not sure I understood what you meant?
[12:26] <Darky469> i have the time  to find  out  , the reason i want that  is  that macromedia shockwave  don't work  under linux
[12:26] <mwe> johnes123: so you don't have that hardware. find the right device name
[12:27] <gnomefreak> the command locate use it to see if it can locate a file that was in your homedir
[12:27] <diablo69> beat*
[12:27] <mwe> johnes123: or check that your hardware is recognized
[12:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> diablo69: lol
[12:27] <Darky469> and  my  kids  want to go to some  sites  that needed  macromedia shockwave
[12:27] <OldSpiceAP> I tried locate, find, and grep for some text files that used to be there
[12:27] <narles> _jason, thanks..  i'll play around with it
[12:27] <Darky469>  like  habbohotel.nl
[12:27] <stevr1it> great now gaim works as icq
[12:27] <johnes123> the hardware is not recognized
[12:27] <stevr1it> thank you
[12:27] <Darky469>  to play a  game
[12:27] <gnomefreak> and your background is no longer what it was on your desktop?
[12:27] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: yeah man I googleld it and they ahve around 195 horse stock, and I was ahead of him by a good a 6 ft, and he had exaust, so I guess my non turbo eclipse is rougly 220 hp
[12:27] <mwe> johnes123: duh. then you can't mount it
[12:28] <mwe> johnes123: what is it?
[12:28] <jamie> I am having an Issue with Ubuntu install program. I am installing on sata drives and want to use a custom partitioning scheme. I am trying /boot as etc3 100M , /home as reiserfs 100G, / as reiserfs 50G and swap 2G. It keeps failing with these custom options. But if I use the automatic options it installs fine. Is it the reiserfs? or does it not like custom options?
[12:28] <stevr1it> now the second proble is the modem that does not work, this is a laptop acer 2500 internal modem, who can help me?
[12:28] <OldSpiceAP> gnomefreak my wallpaper was stored in my home folder
[12:28] <McJerry> i am using ubuntu, how would i tell someone to enable remote desktop to allow others to view and connect on kubuntu?
[12:28] <Kr0ntab> johnes123, in one terminal... type "tail -f /var/log/messages"... then plug in yer HD....
[12:28] <OldSpiceAP> and all of my hidden directories are still there
[12:28] <johnes123> mwe, it's Western Digital WD800
[12:28] <OldSpiceAP> just the non dot directories dissappeared
[12:28] <mwe> jamie: custom worked for me with reiserfs
[12:28] <Kr0ntab> this will give you some useful information
[12:29] <mwe> johnes123: what kind of drive is that?
[12:29] <jamie> mwe, what partitions did you use?
[12:29] <nightwatch> !make-kpkg
[12:29] <ubotu> Wish i knew, nightwatch
[12:29] <mwe> jamie: just one big / and a 2GB swap
[12:29] <_jason> narles, np.  You won't be able to find the file to get wmv support, but the comments point you to: http://multimedia.cx/eggs/?p=129 and you can get it there.
[12:29] <gnomefreak> ok OldSpiceAP what did you mean by shortcuts and stuff gone? did you have shortcuts on your desktop for your home dir.?
[12:29] <johnes123> mwe, it's one partition 80GB FAT32
[12:29] <CodenameKT> jamie: it might be best if u make all partitions reiser
[12:29] <stevr1it> who canhelp me to set up my internal modem? how to recognise it and have it working?
[12:29] <mwe> johnes123: yeah but sata or what?
[12:30] <johnes123> mwe, i'm not sure how to check?
[12:30] <CodenameKT> stevr1it it probably is a soft modem and unsupported
[12:30] <jamie> CodenameKT,  I am used to having to use etc3 ad /boot in gentoo you sure that is ok? and is /boot even useful with ubuntu
[12:30] <Darky469> mwe tnx  for that site , have  a  look at it now
[12:30] <bimberi> McJerry: vino-preferences (in a terminal)
[12:30] <OldSpiceAP> No, I had a transparant panel with some icons in it that were links to common apps.. a launcher or dock I suppose... the icons for those programs were in my home dir but when I logged in they are now all default gnome icons as their custom icons are gone gnomefreak
[12:30] <diablo69> PuMpErNiCkLe: will be back later man, I am goign to head up to blockbuster soon and hopefully race on the way there
[12:30] <mwe> johnes123: you don't know if it's scsi or not?
[12:30] <stevr1it> how can i know it?
[12:31] <jamie> CodenameKT, what I really care about is the /home being different partition and reiser on that and /
[12:31] <bimberi> McJerry: ... or via ALT-F2
[12:31] <CodenameKT> jamie: yeah it is ok. and u prob don't need so much swap fyi
[12:31] <mjbjr> johnes123: try 'lshw', tho I'm not sure ubuntu has this utility
[12:31] <Kr0ntab> mwe, he said it was external....  perhaps USB?  firewire?
[12:31] <pundai> how do you revert to an earlier kernel with ubuntu
[12:31] <gnomefreak> mwe, let me know when you get a spare moment to make sure im not missing something on this paste that went wrong :(
[12:31] <jamie> CodenameKT, I am used to the old 2x memory thing. lol
[12:31] <CodenameKT> jamie: just reiser all of it
[12:31] <jamie> CodenameKT, ok i will try tks
[12:32] <johnes123> mjbjr, the command 'lshw' shows 'USB'
[12:32] <mwe> johnes123: try dmesg|less from a terminal and look for your drive
[12:32] <stevr1it> no possibility then to set up my internal modem?
[12:32] <mwe> gnomefreak: yes?
[12:32] <stevr1it> where could i check if thismodem is supported?
[12:32] <CodenameKT> stevr1it: just tell me what kind it is
[12:32] <gnomefreak> mwe http://rafb.net/paste/results/6t9ANy12.nln.html   look at that his hme dir dissappered and i cant see any command he used to do that
[12:33] <OldSpiceAP> gnomefreak what confuses me is that 10 gigs of data would take a good ammount of time to rm.  there was no disk clatter, etc... it vanished quietly.
[12:33] <stevr1it> i don't know
[12:33] <johnes123> mwe, the drive does not show up
[12:33] <stevr1it> how could i know it?
[12:33] <jamie> also what is the best way to get accelleration on my ATI X300 working, I used synaptic to add fglrx then changed ati to "fglrx in xorg.conf, it worked but my fps were not as high as i am used to
[12:33] <CodenameKT> stevr1it: 99% of the time if it is built into mobo it is controllerless and therefor is not supported. unless u have a really old mobo
[12:33] <gnomefreak> OldSpiceAP, takes no time to delete things with right commands
[12:33] <mebaran151> has anyone successfully setup up eclipse for amd64 on Ubuntu
[12:33] <gnomefreak> or wrong ones too lol
[12:33] <mebaran151> it seems like a good ide
[12:33] <mebaran151> by the way
[12:33] <johnes123> mebaran151, i have set up eclipse
[12:33] <OldSpiceAP> yea but to delete something so that its inodes and datablocks are gone...
[12:33] <mjbjr> johnes123: does 'ls /dev' show an /dev/sda1  ?
[12:34] <mebaran151> what is the best simple text editor
[12:34] <mebaran151> johnes123, from the pkg's?
[12:34] <Kr0ntab> johnes123,   you can help us by typing "sudo fdisk -l" and pasting all the output into www.pastebin.com
[12:34] <OldSpiceAP> grep doesnt even find any traces of these files
[12:34] <priest> mebaran151, vi
[12:34] <stevr1it> i will check on the web
[12:34] <mebaran151> priest, other than vim
[12:34] <_jason> mebaran151, nano if you want simple
[12:34] <mebaran151> I need a grpahical
[12:34] <mebaran151> one
[12:34] <mebaran151> I use vim when I can
[12:34] <bimberi> stevr1it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto
[12:34] <priest> mebaran151, I didn't say Vim, i said Vi :P
[12:34] <mebaran151> but in this case I'd like something graphical
[12:34] <OldSpiceAP> I've run limewire before as sudo for testing purposes
[12:34] <gnomefreak> OldSpiceAP, are you sure that is all you did?
[12:34] <Kr0ntab> johnes123, then give us the URL
[12:34] <CodenameKT> jamie: not sure I have ati my self but was only getting 30fps. It is possible it is because i am using default refresh rates that r probably low in comparison to what they actually r on monitor but I don't really know
[12:34] <mebaran151> because I'll be doing a lot of cp and paste
[12:34] <mwe> gnomefreak: that's odd.
[12:34] <OldSpiceAP> YEs because I turned on my pc for that tast
[12:34] <OldSpiceAP> task*
[12:34] <gnomefreak> OldSpiceAP, not a good habit if you dont have to
[12:34] <OldSpiceAP> it was off before
[12:34] <priest> mebaran151,  if you don't like vi, try "ed".
[12:35] <OldSpiceAP> booted up fine, no trouble.
[12:35] <gnomefreak> mwe thats what im saying :)
[12:35] <gnomefreak> :(*
[12:35] <mebaran151> priest, cli?
[12:35] <OldSpiceAP> did that and it died - I did nothing else in between.
[12:35] <priest> mebaran151, yes.
[12:35] <jamie> CodenameKT, tks anyway
[12:35] <mwe> gnomefreak: trojan or something maybe
[12:35] <mebaran151> priest, I like vim for my cli work
[12:35] <OldSpiceAP> except a google search once I figured out what happened.
[12:35] <CodenameKT> jamie: yeah, hope i gave a little direction
[12:35] <mebaran151> but I would like a convenient graphical editor
[12:35] <gnomefreak> OldSpiceAP, what did you use lime for?
[12:35] <mebaran151> kind of like gvim
[12:35] <gnomefreak> mwe i think you hit it
[12:35] <mebaran151> but without all the kludgery
[12:35] <jamie> CodenameKT, I appreciate it.
[12:35] <tuvok302> has anybody had trouble with getting the Intel536 driver to work?
[12:36] <priest> mebaran151, and you want a editor for X?
[12:36] <johnes123> mjbjr, no it does not
[12:36] <OldSpiceAP> Actually I didn't run it all the way.  I started it to see if it would freeze like it did as a regular user.  It asked me to go through the first run wizzard.  I killed it instead.
[12:36] <mebaran151> yeah bascially
[12:36] <OldSpiceAP> well canceled
[12:36] <priest> mebaran151, in that case, gvim is the shit :D
[12:36] <johnes123> mebaran151, i just used sudo apt-get install eclipse
[12:37] <mebaran151> johnes123, yeah
[12:37] <mebaran151> it's giving me classpath errors
[12:37] <stevr1it> yast lo riconosce (il
[12:37] <stevr1it> > modem) come ixp AC'97 aci technologies
[12:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bbiab
[12:37] <mwe> mebaran151: bad java installation?
[12:37] <stevr1it> is it supported?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> im sorry OldSpiceAP i dont see anything you did that would have caused it im truthfully not sure what happpen  mwe  may be right could be trojan ot something
[12:37] <stevr1it> modem ixp AC'97 aci technologies
[12:37] <mwe> mebaran151: or missing CLASS_PATH
[12:37] <CodenameKT> stevr1it: google it
[12:38] <johnes123> Kr0ntab:  here's the output URL: http://pastebin.com/497106
[12:38] <mebaran151> mwe, I think bad Java install
[12:38] <mebaran151> I'm on AMD64
[12:38] <OldSpiceAP> Trojan
[12:38] <OldSpiceAP> that would make me mad
[12:38] <gnomefreak> OldSpiceAP, its possible
[12:38] <mwe> stevr1it: I think ac97 is supported
[12:38] <Kr0ntab> johnes123, is your external drive connected ?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> but OldSpiceAP im not sure what it is
[12:38] <OldSpiceAP> bad java install?
[12:38] <johnes123> Kr0ntab, yes
[12:38] <OldSpiceAP> or was that not directed at me?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> for you i doubt it
[12:39] <stevr1it> thank you but where to find information
[12:39] <gnomefreak> no that was to mwe from mebaran151
[12:39] <OldSpiceAP> wierd that none of the hidden directories are gone.
[12:39] <OldSpiceAP> ok sry
[12:39] <stevr1it> on google tehre are thousands of links
[12:39] <gnomefreak> OldSpiceAP, hidden dirs are just that hidden
[12:39] <mwe> mebaran151: is it installed at all?
[12:39] <CodenameKT> stevr1it: Yeah I went to the first one and it said not supported :o)
[12:39] <mebaran151> priest, you know any editors like Kate but more gnome friendly
[12:39] <mebaran151> I really liked Kate
[12:39] <mwe> mebaran151: sun java
[12:39] <mebaran151> it did function folding too
[12:39] <CodenameKT> stevr1t: like i thought it is a winmodem
[12:39] <mebaran151> mwe, I tried installing it
[12:39] <aggressor> hey
[12:39] <Kr0ntab> johnes123, is your drive USB?  or something else?
[12:40] <mebaran151> but it confused Openoffice
[12:40] <stevr1it> i will check on ubuntu
[12:40] <mebaran151> and I have to type as well
[12:40] <mebaran151> and I don't think it installed correctly
[12:40] <mwe> mebaran151: tried? did it succeed or what?
[12:40] <mjbjr> johnes123: does 'lsusb' show it?
[12:40] <aggressor> can someone help me
[12:40] <mebaran151> eclipse bailed with errors
[12:40] <OldSpiceAP> gnomefreak --- ?????
[12:40] <OldSpiceAP> lol
[12:40] <woodgrain> is there a keystroke to open bash?
[12:40] <mebaran151> but I have feeling gcj was being bad
[12:40] <johnes123> Kr0ntab, it's USB, however, I cannot even get a jump drive to connect (I used to be able to however)
[12:40] <mebaran151> woodgrain ctrl -alt - f[1 - 6] 
[12:41] <mebaran151> you can get yourself a nice little bash terminal that way
[12:41] <mwe> mebaran151: I think you need sun java
[12:41] <mebaran151> mwe
[12:41] <dooglus> OldSpiceAP: do you know that root has a different home directory than your user?
[12:41] <gnomefreak> OldSpiceAP, i dont know i would hate to tell you to re-install without knowing what is wrong :(
[12:41] <mebaran151> how do I disable gcj Java
[12:41] <mwe> mebaran151: I don't think gcj will work with eclipse
[12:41] <Kr0ntab> johnes123, now type in "lsmod | grep usb" and use pastebin
[12:41] <mwe> mebaran151: you have sun jdk?
[12:41] <narles> _jason, compiling from scratch is fun
[12:41] <Kr0ntab> you may be missing usb_storage module...
[12:41] <gnomefreak> mebaran151, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[12:42] <Eleaf> oooeewww~~
[12:42] <Kr0ntab> or something else...
[12:42] <_jason> narles, done already?
[12:42] <narles> _jason, in the process
[12:42] <McJerry> if i were to shell into someones kubuntu install, what config file would i need to edit for their remote desktop options?
[12:42] <_jason> narles, ah, let me know how it turns out
[12:42] <mika0800> still interested in configuring missing network cards ?
[12:43] <johnes123> Kr0ntab, here's the output URL: http://pastebin.com/497114
[12:43] <cello_rasp> are there any graphical batch downloaders available?
[12:43] <narles> _jason, what was that bit about checkinstall again? i forgot where i needed to do that
[12:43] <Tyrsis> Does anyone know if 5.10 supports BroadCOM WLAN ??
[12:43] <_jason> cello_rasp, gwget, d4x, aria I think
[12:44] <Tyrsis> or will I have to configure it with Ndiswrapper ?
[12:44] <OldSpiceAP> there is a wireless compatibility chart somewhere
[12:44] <OldSpiceAP> I just forget wehre
[12:44] <gnomefreak> !hardware
[12:44] <ubotu> from memory, hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[12:44] <gnomefreak> there
[12:44] <Kr0ntab> johnes123, hmm... they're certainly there.   "tail -f /var/log/messages" ... unplug yer device... then plug it back in...  give it a good 15-20 seconds after you plug it in to paste it.
[12:44] <dooglus> OldSpiceAP: did you log in as root instead of as your user?
[12:44] <cello_rasp> _jason: d4x and aria do not, but i will have yet to try gwget. thanks
[12:44] <mwe> Tyrsis: what chip is that?
[12:44] <Tyrsis> I have no clue
[12:44] <Tyrsis> only thing I know its a BroadCOM
[12:45] <_jason> cello_rasp, then gwget won't, it's the simplest one
[12:45] <Tyrsis> Intergrated
[12:45] <_jason> cello_rasp, what do you mean by batch download?
[12:45] <mwe> Tyrsis: no model number or anything?
[12:45] <Tyrsis> Its a Compaq M2000 laptop
[12:45] <mika0800> with a few commands, I could restore my network card to its half-working state. I can PING LAN, I can access HTTP / HTML -pages from local network using direct IP -addresses. But I still cannot access internet and I also cannot mount samba resources from another linux machine.
[12:45] <OldSpiceAP> dogluus root account is disabled
[12:45] <dooglus> OldSpiceAP: ok.
[12:45] <OldSpiceAP> home folder is still /home/brant
[12:45] <mwe> Tyrsis: in that case I'd first try the laptop wiki
[12:45] <mebaran151> mwe, I was boing to use the blackdown sdk
[12:45] <Tyrsis> ok
[12:45] <mebaran151> because it has the nifty firefox plugin
[12:45] <dooglus> OldSpiceAP: do you have 10 gigs more disk space than you used to have?
[12:45] <jamie> I am doing an expert install, my question is which kernel is the newest? is it the 2.6.12-9-386?
[12:46] <cello_rasp> _jason: by batch download I mean downloading by wildcards (effectively regex)
[12:46] <OldSpiceAP> yes it is now free space
[12:46] <OldSpiceAP> it was physically deleted from the disk
[12:46] <dooglus> OldSpiceAP: "df -h" shows you have more free space now?
[12:46] <tolstoy> Tyrsis: did you try the network-manager package yet?
[12:46] <OldSpiceAP> yes
[12:46] <dooglus> OldSpiceAP: that is crazy.
[12:46] <mwe> mebaran151: I don't know if that works. maybe
[12:46] <OldSpiceAP> about 10 gigs extra
[12:46] <dooglus> OldSpiceAP: I've never heard of that happening
[12:46] <OldSpiceAP> right about the size of my home folder
[12:46] <mebaran151> mwe, tried that
[12:46] <Tyrsis> I am just about to install Ubuntu thats why I am asking ahead of time
[12:46] <dooglus> OldSpiceAP: you said that the hidden folders didn't get deleted.  are you sure that they didn't just get recreated when you logged on?
[12:46] <mebaran151> but openoffice still chokes on bad java
[12:47] <tuvok302> I'm having trouble installing my Intel536EP driver, whenever i "make 536" it says "kernel source needed"
[12:47] <OldSpiceAP> no I still have my .wine folder for instance
[12:47] <mwe> Tyrsis: a wiki search came up with this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/CompaqPresarioM2000
[12:47] <woodgrain> whoever told me to c-alt-F1 really screwed me -- go suck an egg, jerk.
[12:47] <OldSpiceAP> programs I installed as user are still there
[12:47] <dooglus> OldSpiceAP: run a "ls -alt" and see what the oldest thing in your home directory is.  it will be the last thing listed
[12:47] <johnes123> Kr0ntab, here's the output URL:http://pastebin.com/497120
[12:47] <narles> _jason, what was that bit about checkinstall again? i forgot where i needed to do that
[12:47] <OldSpiceAP> c alt F1 should get you a login prompt
[12:47] <gnomefreak> woodgrain, what were you trying to do?
[12:47] <tolstoy> Tyrsis: i've generally had good luck, but this ipw2200BG intel wireless device is driving me crazy.  i get an ip, just can't actually connect to any servers.
[12:48] <mika0800> is there something that I should test with this half-broken setup (which I plan to delete from my HD anyway) ... or should I go directly to formatting my linux partition ?
[12:48] <_jason> narles, instead of doing 'make install'.  You do 'checkinstall'.  You need to install checkinstall though.
[12:48] <OldSpiceAP> its .bahshrc
[12:48] <OldSpiceAP> .bashrc*
[12:48] <woodgrain> OldSpiceAP,  it did do that but had no way of getting back, resulting in shut down and loss of data.
[12:48] <dooglus> you probably shouldn't tell people how to Ctl-Alt-F1 without telling them how to Alt-F7 to get back here...
[12:48] <narles> _jason, when do i checkinstall.. with VLC itself?
[12:48] <woodgrain> My fault for trusting blindly.
[12:48] <mwe> Tyrsis: it says the wifi works with ndiswrapper, you probably gotta check the ndiswrapper.sf.net page for the correct driver to use though
[12:48] <OldSpiceAP> it did do what?
[12:48] <OldSpiceAP> shutdown?
[12:49] <Tyrsis> ok nwe
[12:49] <woodgrain> dooglus, thanks, wish I'd known beforehand.
[12:49] <mwe> mebaran151: why don't you just get sun-jdk ?
[12:49] <dooglus> OldSpiceAP: if you don't know how to switch back to X, and you don't know how to run a browser or IRC client in a VC then you have to reboot...
[12:49] <woodgrain> OldSpiceAP,  had to kill machine to get X running again.
[12:49] <Kr0ntab> johnes123, well this shows nothing... I think it's more of a USB port issue.  1. you can check the BIOS to make sure USB ports are enabled.  2. make sure that (if this is a front USB port) that the port is physicaly connected.  3. Check to see if other USB ports (like the ones on the motherboard in back) work.
[12:49] <mika0800> Ctrl-Alt-Fx, where X=1..7 should switch virtual consoles. If you're running X, then try F2 instead of F1. And F7 (or F5 in Knoppix) to get back to X (=GUI)
[12:49] <johnes123> Kr0ntab, I'm using an old gateay laptop so I only have one USB port
[12:50] <OldSpiceAP> woodgrain ahh I see
[12:50] <johnes123> Kr0ntab, it looks like BIOS will be my only option--how would i do that?
[12:50] <mika0800> "you probably shouldn't tell people how to Ctl-Alt-F1 without telling them how to Alt-F7 to get back here..." ... While Alt-F7 may work, why not Ctrl-Alt F7 ... one less thing to remember !
[12:50] <bimberi> woodgrain: that works for most people - although not for me either (causes X to crash like you) - but it was a reasonable piece of advice for someone to give you
[12:50] <woodgrain> mika0800, what I want is to open a bash onscreen in ubuntu/gnome
[12:50] <Kr0ntab> johnes123, I say give it a shot...  running out of options.
[12:50] <OldSpiceAP> woodgrain that would be frustrating I'd guess.
[12:50] <woodgrain> bimberi, yeah, shouldn't have over-reacted.
[12:50] <woodgrain> I admitted that already.
[12:50] <dooglus> OldSpiceAP: it sounds like someone put a "rm -r *" somewhere in one of your files.  that would leave 'hidden' files and folders
[12:50] <OldSpiceAP> brb
[12:50] <mebaran151> mwe, I'm working with blackdown now
[12:50] <mebaran151> just for now
[12:50] <OldSpiceAP> ohh
[12:51] <stevr1it> great it works now, the modem wirks i have found the information on howto wiki ubntu web page, thank you
[12:51] <bimberi> woodgrain: k :)
[12:51] <mebaran151> only because it's in the repos
[12:51] <OldSpiceAP> an rm -r *?
[12:51] <mika0800> wg, oh, you mean in a window? Should find it somewhere in the GUI menu. Henerally known as "Terminal"
[12:51] <Kr0ntab> johnes123, USB ports sometimes get damaged from high ammounts of ESD... or from physical damage....
[12:51] <stevr1it> the last thing to set up is the video accellerator
[12:51] <dooglus> woodgrain: you know about Alt-F2 to get a shell prompt?  you can type 'gnome-terminal' there
[12:51] <Johnny0> gnomefreak:
[12:51] <bimberi> woodgrain: actually it's interesting to see that it's happening to others (for me it's on a Dell Inspiron 500m Laptop)
[12:51] <Johnny0> gnomefreak: you around ?
[12:51] <woodgrain> dooglus, that\s how I do it now ... tooo slowww.
[12:51] <OldSpiceAP> brb for real now
[12:51] <gnomefreak> yes
[12:51] <OldSpiceAP> gotta make a bottle for the baby
[12:52] <mwe> mebaran151: add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list to apt-get/synaptic sun-jdk: deb [WWW]  http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ breezy java
[12:52] <woodgrain> bimberi, I killed my machine c-meta-delete b/c I was stuck at that login and didn't knwo how to get out.
[12:53] <gnomefreak> Johnny0,  what can i do for you?
[12:53] <woodgrain> dooglus, how can I make "singlekey" = open bash shell in gnome?
[12:53] <bimberi> woodgrain: what i see is that when i return with c-a-f7 X will just restart
[12:53] <globe> what are the benefits of using KDE over Gnome?
[12:53] <xeno_> hi guys
[12:53] <globe> Is it worth the hassle to re-install to switch?
[12:53] <woodgrain> bimberi,  I have the proper operation, I just didn't know how to use it when I tried it the first time so I metaflamed b/c.
[12:53] <mwe> globe: you don't need to reinstall
[12:53] <Johnny0> gnomefreak: remember the gnome desktop issue I was having - only coming up to a CLI when I rebooted ? :) somewhere along the line - I had uninstalled gdm
[12:53] <xeno_> hello from switzerland
[12:53] <gnomefreak> globe, just install the one you dont have and just use whatever one you like
[12:53] <woodgrain> xeno_, you're up late.
[12:53] <mwe> globe: just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:54] <globe> mwe. oh snap. okay. :-)
[12:54] <dooglus> woodgrain: you know you can add the terminal as a launcher on your panel?
[12:54] <woodgrain> dooglus, can I run that from the keyboard?
[12:54] <dooglus> woodgrain: that makes "singleclick" open a terminal...
[12:54] <globe> how do I disable GUI login on startup?
[12:54] <mwe> globe: the benefit is you can get rid of the gnome crap. some people would use that same arguement in the opposite direction
[12:55] <dooglus> woodgrain: I don't know how to make a shortcut for running stuff from a key
[12:55] <xeno_> yeah realy late.... i'm gonna go in troubles at work tomorow
[12:55] <mwe> globe: ie use gnome to get rid of kde krap
[12:55] <johnes123> Kr0ntab, thanks for your help, i guess i'm SOL
[12:55] <woodgrain> dooglus, I went 'system-->prefs-->keyboard shortcuts" but the open terminal shortcut is 'disabled' .
[12:55] <bimberi> globe: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[12:55] <Kr0ntab> johnes123, is this a new laptop?  or did you say it was old?
[12:55] <globe> mwe: right.  I am not too worrie about having the extra crap sitting on my HD, as long as its not in memory
[12:56] <johnes123> Kr0ntab, it's from 1997
[12:56] <mwe> globe: good point
[12:56] <woodgrain> how do I enable a shortcut key?
[12:56] <woodgrain> that's disabled now.
[12:56] <Eleaf> What is Ubuntu doing when it is "Calculating Module Dependencies" at boot?
[12:56] <xeno_> beybey and a nice day at all.
[12:56] <dooglus> woodgrain: what if you click on the word "disabled" and then press the key you want to use?
[12:56] <Kr0ntab> johnes123, bummer.  I wonder if you have a USB mouse... optical one would light up for you.  I wonder if there's even any power coming out of that port.
[12:56] <woodgrain> dooglus, will try.
[12:57] <johnes123> Kr0ntab, there is power to it, i haven't tried a mouse, give me a second...
[12:57] <globe> mwe: after apt-get ting kde, how do I start it? Is KDE a different graphics front end for X, or a whole different system?
[12:57] <woodgrain> dooglus, you are a god.
[12:57] <OldSpiceAP> a while different visual interface that runs on top of X
[12:57] <woodgrain> workd like a charm.
[12:57] <johnes123> Kr0ntab, mouse lights up, but does not work...
[12:57] <dooglus> woodgrain: read the sentence at the bottom of that screen...  "to edit a shortcut..." it says.
[12:57] <Eleaf> What is Ubuntu doing when it is "Calculating Module Dependencies" at boot?
[12:57] <Eleaf> lol
[12:58] <mwe> globe: just another window manager. it comes with a lot of apps though. you can still use gnome apps in kde and the other way around as well
[12:58] <dooglus> Eleaf: you'll be pleased to hear that dapper doesn't do that, whatever it is.
[12:58] <woodgrain> dooglus, thanks, I got all hurried and didn't look!
[12:58] <Kr0ntab> johnes123,   "tail -f /var/log/messages" ...   plug in the mouse.  you know the drill....
[12:58] <mwe> globe: are you using graphical login?
[12:58] <globe> mwe: right. I learned that one today.
[12:58] <globe> mwe: yep, but I am trying to figure out how to shut that off....
[12:59] <Kr0ntab> johnes123, if you don't see anything... then it's probably a USB port issue for sure.
[12:59] <Eleaf> dooglus, lol..  Ok.  Because mine is freezing at that..
[12:59] <mwe> globe: sudo update-rc.d -f remove gdm
[12:59] <dooglus> Eleaf: it takes a while.  like 10 or 15 seconds maybe.  is it freezing longer than that?
[12:59] <MrPockets> do they make Objectdock for Linux?
[12:59] <mwe> globe: then you need to echo exec startkde ~/.xinitrc
[12:59] <Eleaf> dooglus, I've waited for an hour...
[12:59] <mwe> globe: then you would use startx to run it
[12:59] <dooglus> Eleaf: that should be long enough (!)
[12:59] <globe> mwe: I saw that posted a minute ago.
[12:59] <globe> Okay
[12:59] <mwe> globe: well I made a typo
[01:00] <Eleaf> dooglus, lol.. yea..  I guess I have to reinstall after 6 months of work getting it just right!! x (
[01:00] <mwe> globe: it's echo exec startkde >~/.xinitrc
[01:00] <Eleaf> now it wont boot after a dist upgrade dooglus because it's missing modules or something.  I have access to the hard drive.  I just don't know what to do..
[01:00] <johnes123> Kr0ntab, no output, must be a port thing...
[01:00] <Kr0ntab> yup
[01:00] <johnes123> thx for your help
[01:00] <Mapionetka> i have a folder called test. test has 775, is owned by root and gentest, josh is a part of gentest but cant do anything to the dir test. any ideas?
[01:00] <johnes123> i appreciaite it
[01:00] <Kr0ntab> well at least you have an answer.
[01:00] <Kr0ntab> no prob
[01:01] <globe> mwe: thanks for you help--its downloading kde now
[01:01] <Eleaf> dooglus, what should I do?
[01:02] <Papageno> What package should I get to be able to play wmv files in xfmedia?
[01:02] <jamie> ubuntu normally seams to have root disabled. I really perfer to have a normal root user I can sign into when I want to, rather than doing sudo. What should I do to enable this
[01:02] <djtrip> got a quick ? someone good wit the gaming
[01:02] <mwe> Mapionetka: does "groups" confirm that josh is member of gentest?
[01:02] <dooglus> Eleaf: I'm not sure.  I guess reinstalling the kernel might fix it.
[01:02] <mwe> globe: np
[01:02] <dooglus> Eleaf: can you boot into 'rescue mode' or whatever it's called?
[01:02] <djtrip> i got neverwinter night it cause my moniter to say invalid mode
[01:02] <Mapionetka> mwe yes
[01:02] <mwe> globe: wait you want kde-3.5?
[01:02] <dooglus> Eleaf: it's an option on the grub boot screen
[01:02] <Eleaf> dooglus, I can boot into the livecd
[01:03] <damsun> noob= how do i mount / format IDE in ubuntu please?
[01:03] <Eleaf> dooglus, the ppc version doesn't use grub and doesn't have a recovery kernel.  But I can use the livecd and can make changes from there
[01:03] <mwe> Mapionetka: an josh can't touch foobar in there to create that file?
[01:03] <dooglus> Eleaf: I guess from the livecd you can "chroot" into your real root partition, and from there run "apt-get" to install stuff?
[01:04] <Eleaf> dooglus, yes
[01:04] <damsun> how do you mount hdc please?
[01:04] <dooglus> Eleaf: I would try reinstalling the kernel and modules - but I'd also get a 2nd opinion.  I've never had this problem, and don't want you to lose your stuff on my account.
[01:04] <Eleaf> dooglus, I found a problem though.  when I'm not chrooted, I can use apt fine.  the network works.  Whenever I chroot into my harddrive.  It doens't recognize my network!!  and I can't use apt because it doesn't think there is internet!
[01:04] <Mapionetka> mwn, vim test.txt with 1 line of text and a wq recieved a E212: cant open file for writing
[01:04] <mwe> damsun: sudo mkdir /mnt/hdc && sudo mount /dev/hdc /mnt/hdc
[01:05] <mwe> Mapionetka: what does ls -l test.txt say?
[01:05] <dooglus> Eleaf: I'm not sure why that would be, but you can always download the .deb files manually from http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and use them after chroot'ing
[01:05] <dooglus> Eleaf: with "dpkg"
[01:05] <rcmiv> if I install ubuntu onto a second HD, will grub see it and be able to boot it?
[01:05] <Eleaf> dooglus, your right!
[01:05] <Eleaf> dooglus, so should I just use firefox and get them?
[01:06] <dooglus> Eleaf: my right?
[01:06] <Eleaf> dooglus, alright yea.  What packages should I get?  I'm in the livecd
[01:06] <damsun> need to mount or format hdc where do i start? :(
[01:06] <mwe> globe:
[01:06] <dooglus> Eleaf: yes.  http://packages.ubuntu.com/ has some search forms to help you find the .deb files you need.
[01:06] <Eleaf> ok
[01:06] <dooglus> Eleaf: which version of ubuntu?
[01:06] <usr13> any tricks to getting realplay to work in ubuntu?
[01:06] <Mapionetka> mwe, the test file was never created, do you want me to sudo and do it?
[01:06] <Eleaf> dooglus, uhh...  I guess breeezy
[01:06] <Sionide> anyone recommend any good webcam software for ubuntu??
[01:06] <Eleaf> dooglus, so I need a new kernel... what else?
[01:07] <mwe> Mapionetka: no
[01:07] <globe> mwe: I dont know...do I?
[01:07] <mwe> globe: heh
[01:07] <alekandr> quick question guys: if i install a bnc server locally, can i use an external vhost ive been offered?
[01:07] <globe> mwe: I would assume that I want the latest
[01:07] <mwe> globe: I use it. it's a little more sleek
[01:07] <damsun> yes and no
[01:07] <radiodog> Sionide: any you can find... ffmpeg'll work, but there are only a couple decent ones... just frontends for video4linux
[01:07] <mwe> Mapionetka: what happens if you touch foobar as josh in that dir?
[01:07] <globe> mwe: okay....
[01:08] <dooglus> Eleaf: which kernel do you use?  linux-powerpc?  linux-powerpc-smp?  linux-powerpc64-smp?
[01:08] <mwe> globe: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[01:08] <Mapionetka> the dir is empty atm, but i cant write to it as josh
[01:08] <jamie> CodenameKT, I appreciate it. Reiser on all partitions and no /boot did it
[01:08] <mwe> globe: add that to the end of /etc/apt/sources.list to get 3.5
[01:08] <stevr1it> no, i cannot find any ingormation about video acellerator ati 9000 video card for acer laptop
[01:08] <Sionide> radiodog, my webcam is pretty generic.. hopefully it'll be ok
[01:08] <mwe> globe: after sudo apt-get update of course
[01:08] <OldSpiceAP> hmmm no rm -r * in any files
[01:08] <OldSpiceAP> so that theory goes kaput :(
[01:08] <dooglus> OldSpiceAP: no files
[01:08] <timfrost> Mapionetka, what are the permissions for the directory?
[01:08] <OldSpiceAP> grepped for it for a long time finally finished
[01:09] <Eleaf> dooglus, linux-powerpc
[01:09] <dooglus> OldSpiceAP: I imagine the "rm -r" would have deleted the file containing the "rm -r"
[01:09] <julio99> hi
[01:09] <Mapionetka> timfrost 775
[01:09] <TCTCH> aye, how many ppl uses Linux?
[01:09] <julio99> who can send-me the CEDEGA 5.0.3?
[01:09] <dooglus> Eleaf: look here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/linux-powerpc and trace down the dependancies
[01:09] <globe> mwe: so, after my dl of kde finishes I need to add deb http://.... breezy main to the end of mp /etc/apt/sources.list and then apt-get again?
[01:09] <dooglus> Eleaf: (the red dots!)
[01:09] <Eleaf> k
[01:09] <dooglus> TCTCH: 31
[01:09] <jamie> ubuntu normally seams to have root disabled. I really perfer to have a normal root user I can sign into when I want to, rather than doing sudo. What should I do to enable this
[01:09] <julio99> Hi xD Who can send-me cedega 5.0.3?
[01:10] <mwe> Mapionetka: groups confirms josh is in gentest and ls -ld test confirms root:gentest and 775?
[01:10] <TCTCH> dooglus: 31 people?....hmm...not mutch :)
[01:10] <dooglus> jamie: "sudo passwd"
[01:10] <mwe> Mapionetka: if so and josh cant write in there it's badly broken
[01:10] <Amaranth> julio99: Please don't talk about illegal activities here.
[01:10] <Mapionetka> mwe that is the case
[01:10] <mwe> globe: no stop it now
[01:10] <dooglus> TCTCH: it's just an estimate
[01:10] <jamie> dooglus, an that will enable me to set a root password? and then I can so su then password like I am used to?
[01:10] <mwe> globe: then add that and sudo apt-get update
[01:10] <julio99> =/ ok
[01:11] <mwe> globe: then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:11] <globe> I see
[01:11] <dooglus> jamie: yes.  it's not recommended, but hey it's your box, fill your boots :)
[01:11] <makkk> can someone help me write to a USB drive? it used to work, but suddenly began to claim it was read-only
[01:11] <TCTCH> dooglus: hmmm....21 million people uses linux....is there some proof? website or something?
[01:11] <globe> mwe: will that make it so that I dont have access to gnome?
[01:11] <djtrip> can any one help bout a game causin invalid mode on my moniter
[01:11] <TCTCH> 31
[01:11] <mwe> jamie: just use sudo -i to get a root prompt if you need one
[01:12] <dooglus> jamie: although "sudo -s" and "sudo -i" will give you root shells without setting a root password
[01:12] <jamie> mwe, ahhhh that will be all I need
[01:12] <Eleaf> dooglus, the files are so small..  The kernel shouldn't be 25 k should it??? o.O
[01:12] <mwe> globe: you have to put somthing else into .xinitrc to use gnome I forgot what
[01:12] <jamie> I just dont want to do sudo before every apt command. lol
[01:12] <dooglus> TCTCH: it's very hard to know, what with it being free and not reporting usage stats anywhere
[01:12] <dooglus> Eleaf: no.
[01:13] <Mapionetka> mwe, im logged in as josh atm, so if i use groups josh i get josh and gentest, but if i just use groups i get the long list of all the various half admin groups aswell
[01:13] <mwe> jamie: yeah that's annoying if you have to do a lot of work as root
[01:13] <Mapionetka> but no gentest
[01:13] <Eleaf> dooglus, how do I download them??? lol..  I'm just clicking the link to download.. and they are only a few K .deb packages
[01:13] <Eleaf> o.o
[01:13] <TCTCH> dooglus: yeah...I see...but all I want to know is: If are more Linux usere out there as Mac users
[01:13] <woodgrain> does anyone here have a shell script for comparing 2 md5sums for two files?
[01:13] <jamie> mwe, yup it is
[01:13] <globe> mwe.  okay.  I am looking at a screenshot of kde and it looks like OSX.  Is that what it is like naturally or after some config.?
[01:13] <mwe> Mapionetka: just groups includes the gentest group?
[01:13] <makkk> does someone know how my USB drive could have suddenly become read-only?
[01:13] <Mapionetka> no :/
[01:13] <Mikl> Hi! I'm trying to begin new life with ubuntu 5.10 :-) now I have problem with free space. i have partition of 9.3 GB and df -h shows that it have only 350 MB of free space. But all files in dirs is smaller then 4GB. So I wonder were space could be? Can anyone give me idea?
[01:13] <mwe> Mapionetka: and what about "id"
[01:14] <dooglus> Eleaf: you have to chase down all the red dots, recursively.  the ones at the top are merely 'metapackages', and are empty
[01:14] <Mapionetka> no gentest with id either
[01:14] <Mapionetka> yet groups josh brings it up
[01:14] <Mapionetka> :/
[01:14] <mwe> globe: I have done some heavy theming I think the default was ugly. that's what I love about kde. you can customize every single bit of it
[01:14] <dooglus> Eleaf: for example, linux-image-powerpc (22k) depends on linux-image-2.6.12-10-powerpc (17582.2k)
[01:15] <Eleaf> ok
[01:15] <timfrost> Mapionetka, log out, then back in again.  The existing session doen't pick up new groups autopmitically.
[01:15] <Eleaf> dooglus, do I need to download those dependencies then? since it's a metapackage...?
[01:15] <mwe> Mapionetka: log out and back in and it will be fixed
[01:15] <dooglus> Eleaf: you need to, yes.
[01:15] <mwe> Mapionetka: you need to do that for group changes to take effect
[01:15] <woodgrain> how do I compute MD5SUM for files excluding the filename?
[01:15] <djtrip> gee all u had to do was say no peace
[01:15] <dooglus> Eleaf: well, I'm not sure, but maybe...  they're only tiny anyway, so why not.
[01:15] <Mapionetka> timfrost, ill have a go at it. im in ssh so im constantly in and out and with screen etc :)
[01:15] <slashx1896> hey all!
[01:16] <sethk> woodgrain, md5sum doesn't use the filename.  You would have to write a program to computer the sum and include the filename
[01:16] <dooglus> Eleaf: it will help keep your dependancies in order
[01:16] <mwe> Mapionetka: did you get that?
[01:16] <mwe> Mapionetka: log out and back in
[01:16] <sethk> s/computer/compute/
[01:16] <slashx1896> My scroll thing on my mouse just stopped working :o :(
[01:16] <globe> mwe: nice...I like customization
[01:16] <dooglus> woodgrain: renaming a file doesn't change its md5sum
[01:16] <woodgrain> sethk, how come when I copy file1.ext to file2.ext echo -n file | md5sum gives different sums?
[01:17] <Mapionetka> yay! we have liftoff!
[01:17] <sethk> woodgrain, I just tried it here, I get exactly the same value
[01:17] <Mapionetka> i think
[01:17] <mwe> globe: yeah
[01:17] <dooglus> woodgrain: because "echo -n file" passes the 4 characters in the word "file" into md5sum!  :)
[01:17] <Mapionetka> expect another cry for help when the next thing breaks :P
[01:17] <sethk> woodgrain, that would be completely useless.  the point of md5sum is to do things like validate downloads
[01:17] <Mapionetka> ls
[01:17] <sethk> woodgrain, so it would appear that you have some other problem.
[01:17] <dooglus> woodgrain: you're looking for "cat file | md5sum".  or better "md5sum < file"
[01:17] <woodgrain> sethk, I know, that's why I'm confused ... did it again, but still diff results.
[01:17] <sethk> woodgrain, someone just noticed that your command is wrong
[01:17] <woodgrain> dooglus, what's cat
[01:18] <sethk> woodgrain, you just do:  md5sum filename
[01:18] <slashx1896> Anyone;... my scroll key doesnt scroll anymore.. it just stopped working
[01:18] <dooglus> woodgrain: it's what you think 'echo' is
[01:18] <sethk> woodgrain, cat is what you apparently think echo is
[01:18] <dooglus> woodgrain: it's like "type" in DOS
[01:18] <dooglus> woodgrain: it opens the file and pipes its contents to stdout
[01:18] <sethk> dooglus, well, ultimately that's going to confuse him ... :)
[01:18] <St0n3-C0l> I am shocked....KDE apps working so smoothly like never before on GNOME!
[01:18] <dooglus> sethk: what's cat?
[01:18] <munkybass> kde rlz :P
[01:18] <woodgrain> oh, so if I use echo, it's using the filenames as though they're text?
[01:18] <damsun> ubuntu is debian?
[01:18] <gnomefreak> echo = echos what you type :)
[01:18] <sethk> dooglus, cat is different than type.  it's primary use is what the name implies, concatenation
[01:18] <St0n3-C0l> credit goes to GNOME Or KDE ?
[01:18] <gnomefreak> damnhil, based yes
[01:18] <St0n3-C0l> damsun: debian-based distro
[01:19] <Amaranth> St0n3-C0l: That's not too unbelieveable, it's just a matter of having the right libraries installed.
[01:19] <damsun> thanks St0n3-c0l
[01:19] <gnomefreak> damn tab :(
[01:19] <St0n3-C0l> Amaranth: Before on Hoary KDE apps used to run very slowly and took alot time to load on GNOME
[01:19] <damsun> so i can use debian commands to format and mount?
[01:19] <slashx1896> gah.. can anyone help me?? like tell me where i can go to see if it got disabled
[01:19] <sethk> gnomefreak, no, damnhil, not damntab  :)
[01:19] <dooglus> woodgrain: yes.
[01:19] <woodgrain> sethk, got it working.
[01:20] <feistel> hi
[01:20] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:20] <woodgrain> dooglus,  you mean it was md5summing the filenames? with echo -n filename | md5sum?
[01:20] <mwe> damsun: yeah. those are standard linux utils
[01:20] <dooglus> woodgrain: run "echo file" on its own.  whatever it puts on the screen is what md5sum sees when you "echo file | md5sum"
[01:20] <Goldfisch> damsun: What do you mean debian? formatting and mounting isn't really distribution specific.
[01:20] <feistel> I need help
[01:20] <Amaranth> St0n3-C0l: That's just because C++ apps and libs take forever to find dependency libs and load them.
[01:20] <feistel> with Ubuntu Linux
[01:20] <dooglus> woodgrain: then try "cat ~/.bashrc"
[01:20] <Amaranth> St0n3-C0l: prelinking helps a lot with C++
[01:20] <feistel> exist a GRAPHIC INSTALLER for Ubuntu?
[01:20] <mwe> !tell feistel about helpme
[01:20] <St0n3-C0l> hmm..
[01:20] <dooglus> woodgrain: it will show you the *contents* of the file, instead of its *name*
[01:20] <damsun> hmm. k thanks. i best learn linux full stop then. laters
[01:20] <damsun> exit
[01:20] <dooglus> woodgrain: of course, usually people just run "md5sum file"
[01:20] <damsun> and irc commands.. blush
[01:20] <mika0800> ok, just formatted my linux partition and now running the ubuntu Hoary 5.04 installer. I can sidestep (Ctrl-Alt-F2) to open a command console. Tried modprobe 3c509 but it only gives me an error msg: "FATAL: Module 3c509 not found".... can I download that module somewhere or direct the loader to the proper directory on the installation CD if it actually IS ther ?
[01:20] <Amaranth> feistel: Nope, but the one that's there is wouldn't be any easier if it was.
[01:21] <slashx1896> gr... =\
[01:21] <St0n3-C0l> and Since I've opened Kopete...ur Menu Editor not starting ehe :>
[01:21] <woodgrain> dooglus, cat is angry with large files -- this is what I should expect, right?
[01:21] <Goldfisch> BTW, why is md5 still out there and cooking? I thought SHA-1 is where everything was heading, due to faults with md5.
[01:21] <Amaranth> St0n3-C0l: lmao, run it from a terminal
[01:21] <sethk> woodgrain, no.  although in this context cat is totally unnecessary
[01:21] <dooglus> woodgrain: no, cat is fine with large files.  the problem is that your terminal doesn't like large binary files being cat'ed to it...
[01:21] <sethk> Goldfisch, the supposed fault with md5 is bogus
[01:21] <Amaranth> Goldfisch: theoretical faults in md5
[01:21] <feistel> Amaranth, is a way of transform the text-based installation program to a graphic-based installation program?
[01:21] <woodgrain> dooglus, so it's just beeping cuz it's not loading fast enough.
[01:22] <St0n3-C0l> Amaranth: can I paste u the reply in private or pastebin?
[01:22] <Goldfisch> Well, tell that to the people producing gpg/pgp and why they are using SHA-1 for digital signatures.
[01:22] <sethk> woodgrain, no, it's beeping because you are sending binary 7 to it
[01:22] <dooglus> woodgrain: no, it's beeping because there's all kinds of non-printable stuff in it.  that's why I suggested "cat ~/.bashrc" - it's a text file.
[01:22] <woodgrain> dooglus, SHUTE!  I c-c'd out of that cat of a 17MB file and now my bash terminal is all screwed up.
[01:22] <Amaranth> St0n3-C0l: pastebin
[01:22] <sethk> woodgrain, the 7 character rings the terminal bell
[01:22] <mwe> afaik it is theretically possible to create a different file with the same md5sum
[01:22] <dooglus> woodgrain: type "reset" in the bash terminal
[01:22] <Amaranth> Goldfisch: For important security things sha-XXX is better than md5
[01:22] <woodgrain> dooglus, cat wll only deal with ascii?
[01:22] <St0n3-C0l> Alright
[01:22] <dooglus> woodgrain: if return doesn't work, try control-j
[01:23] <Amaranth> Goldfisch: For regular things, it's not that important.
[01:23] <dooglus> woodgrain: no, cat deals fine with any file.  but your terminal likes ascii
[01:23] <Amaranth> feistel: No, why do you need to?
[01:23] <sethk> Amaranth, I don't think there is any situation where sha is better than md5
[01:23] <feistel> Amaranth, for a new desktop distribution based on Kubuntu
[01:23] <woodgrain> dooglus,  so I could still cat that file into another command, and if the results aren't put in terminal, the termial won't freak/get broken?
[01:23] <Amaranth> feistel: the CLI installer is not that big of a deal
[01:23] <mika0800> does someone even know: Are there plain files on the Hoary 5.04 installation CD or are the files compressed on the CD ?
[01:23] <narles> _jason, i can't find VC1_reference_decoder_release6.zip for compiling libvc1....
[01:24] <dooglus> doesn't ubuntu use md5 for ensuring packages haven't been tampered with?
[01:24] <Amaranth> feistel: If you didn't know the answer to these questions you don't know enough to make a distrobution.
[01:24] <dooglus> it's that 'important'?
[01:24] <mwe> dooglus: yeah
[01:24] <_jason> narles, You won't be able to find the file to get wmv support, but the comments point you to: http://multimedia.cx/eggs/?p=129 and you can get it there.
[01:24] <mwe> dooglus: I think so
[01:24] <sethk> dooglus, yes, it does use md5, and there is no real problem with md5
[01:24] <nter> I used cat to combine movies so I think you can use it with more than  ASCII
[01:24] <Amaranth> dooglus: Make me a file the exact same size as the package I choose that has the same md5sum but does malicious things.
[01:24] <dooglus> sethk: but it's relatively easy to collide md5sums isn't it?
[01:25] <mwe> dooglus: but I think at least in theory it's possible to create a different file with the same md5sum
[01:25] <dooglus> Amaranth: that's the point - it's doable
[01:25] <woodgrain> nter, explain how to combine files with cat!
[01:25] <sethk> dooglus, no.  that's bogus.  what has been done is to double the key length and create a collision
[01:25] <Amaranth> dooglus: It's not.
[01:25] <sethk> dooglus, if the key length is known, md5 has no collision issues
[01:25] <dooglus> sethk: key length == file size?
[01:25] <sethk> mwe, only by expanding the key length
[01:25] <sethk> dooglus, no, the key length is something that you choose whenever doing a hash, such as md5.
[01:25] <Amaranth> sethk: The attacker has to be able to choose the original input text too.
[01:25] <sethk> dooglus, 1024 bits, for example
[01:25] <mwe> sethk: are you sure?
[01:26] <sethk> mwe, positive
[01:26] <St0n3-C0l> Amaranth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6822
[01:26] <mwe> sethk: all right
[01:26] <sethk> Amaranth, that's another reason, then,
[01:26] <narles> _jason, i have no idea what to do.. i'd rather just skip getting wmv support.. but when i tried to ./configure for compiling VLC, it won't let me because of the missing libvc1.. how can i get around this?
[01:26] <nter> cat fie1 file2 filen >new_file
[01:26] <sethk> the point is that the md5 "problem" is entirely academic and doesn't exist in the real world.
[01:26] <sethk> nter, correct, that's the canonical use of cat
[01:26] <sethk> nter, hence the name, which means concatenate
[01:26] <Amaranth> sethk, dooglus: It's still impossible for an attacker to make a file with the same size and md5sum as a random file that actually _does_ something.
[01:27] <_jason> narles, that site gives you a link to: http://www.multimedia.cx/VC1_reference_decoder_release6.zip
[01:27] <amonkey> how can i mount a vfat partition case insensitivly?
[01:27] <sethk> Amaranth, I agree, that's why I said there is no real problem.
[01:27] <kylevan> hi, could someone tell me what the heck the root password is, since I didn't set it up during setup?
[01:27] <_jason> ubotu, tell kylevan about root
[01:27] <dooglus> sethk: md5 has a constant key length then.
[01:27] <Amaranth> St0n3-C0l: stop using dapper :P
[01:27] <sethk> amonkey, the case significance of a vfat mount is a function of the character set
[01:27] <sethk> dooglus, no, it does not.
[01:27] <mwe> kylevan: root doesn't have a passwd in ubuntu by default
[01:27] <Amaranth> St0n3-C0l: freetype likes to change ABI/API without a new major version number
[01:28] <mwe> kylevan: use sudo to do root stuff
[01:28] <BxL> !tell bxl aboit sudo
[01:28] <narles> thanks
[01:28] <mwe> kylevan: and sudo -i if you need a root prompt
[01:28] <sethk> dooglus, although there are common sizes.  md5 itself doesn't confine the size.  the md5sum utility does have  _default_ key size if you don't override
[01:28] <St0n3-C0l> Amaranth: LOL am back on breezy...just set the repos and updated xchat and gaim and now back on breezy :-D
[01:28] <kylevan> mwe, I did, but it chmod didn't seem to work
[01:28] <mwe> kylevan: did what, sorry?
[01:28] <Amaranth> St0n3-C0l: You need the freetype, cairo, glib, and pango from dapper.
[01:28] <amonkey> sethk, ok, is there a way i can force the right character set?
[01:28] <dooglus> sethk: what's the flag to md5sum to change the key size?
[01:28] <kylevan> mwe, well, I'm having issues with the hotplugging service on my ASUS laptop
[01:28] <sethk> kylevan, it isn't quite true about root.  If you do the default install, there is no root password.  If you do any of the other installs, such as the expert install, the install program will ask you for, and set, the root password
[01:29] <Amaranth> St0n3-C0l:  If you get one you have to get them all.
[01:29] <Goldfisch> sethk: Do you mean "digest" size?
[01:29] <narles> _jason if i have VC1_reference_decoder_release6.zip on my desktop.. how can i move it to ~/videolan?
[01:29] <sorush20> guys i'm unable to mount my floppy,, is there a way that mounting and unmounting could become automatic in ubuntu just like windows?
[01:29] <St0n3-C0l> Amaranth: alright :)
[01:29] <mwe> kylevan: yes? I thought you were talking about root permission
[01:29] <sethk> amonkey, man mount wiill show you the argument
[01:29] <sethk> Goldfisch, digest, hash, key, the terms all mean the same thing
[01:29] <_jason> narles, mv ~/Desktop/VC1_reference_decoder_release6.zip ~/videolan
[01:29] <kylevan> no... I'm just trying to keep hotplugging from running until I can fix it.  I'm using some documentation off of linux-on-laptops.org or whatever
[01:30] <St0n3-C0l> thanks
[01:30] <St0n3-C0l> brb
[01:30] <Ophiocus> does anyone remember offhand what the io  variable name for a utf-8 mount point for fstab?
[01:30] <_jason> ubotu, tell narles about cli
[01:30] <Goldfisch> sethk: Key is a unique value generated for a user. I have a public key used to sign messages. That is not the same as the hash/digests I generate with the public key.
[01:30] <tamale> hey, what's the easiest way to get raid5 up and running on my ubuntu install?   I have 2.6.12 kernel, fresh breezy-badger install, all 8 of my drives show up under disk manager
[01:30] <sorush20> I'm using kubuntu and when I click on the floppy icon I get the message that could not determine the filesystem any help pleaes?
[01:30] <jessica_> how can i upgrade my kubuntu dsitro to kde 3.5?
[01:31] <jessica_> please somebody tell me the terminal command
[01:31] <Amaranth> tamale: software raid?
[01:31] <sethk> Goldfisch, no, that's not true.  the term key has many uses.  In cryptography a key most typically refers to the thing you need to decrypt or encrypt something, but it is perfectly correct to use key in a variety of other ways
[01:31] <dooglus> sethk: if you mean hash, then md5sum generates a 128 bit hash
[01:31] <mwe> kylevan: to disable it temporarely, sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/hotplug. then sudo chmod +x it when you want it to run again
[01:31] <Goldfisch> If you don't download and apt-key an apt source's public key, you can't validate their md5 sums and authenticate their packages.
[01:31] <dooglus> sethk: I don't think you can change that.
[01:31] <Amaranth> tamale: i think you needed to do that in the install, by using LVMS
[01:31] <kylevan> mwe, that's what I did, but it didn't work
[01:31] <tamale> Amaranth:  Correct, I want software raid5 with samba
[01:31] <sorush20> jessica_: are you a girls?
[01:31] <mwe> kylevan: really?
[01:31] <kylevan> yeah
[01:31] <jessica_> hmmmmm yes
[01:31] <sethk> dooglus, I might have patched mine to take a key length.
[01:31] <Amaranth> Goldfisch: Wrong. If you don't have the key you can't verify the pgp signature.
[01:31] <jessica_> i am a girl who loves linux
[01:31] <Amaranth> Goldfisch: The md5sum is seperate.
[01:31] <kylevan> which is why I came in here
[01:32] <OldSpiceAP> exit
[01:32] <_jason> jessica_, you may want to try in #kubuntu as well
[01:32] <sorush20> jessica_: wow I think most guys here would love you
[01:32] <tamale> Amaranth:  I couldn't seem to get it to accept my changes duiring the install
[01:32] <] m[evilb> is there a way to install wine while being offline?
[01:32] <Amaranth> sorush20: Please don't do that.
[01:32] <jessica_> hahaha and why is that?
[01:32] <mwe> kylevan: well then sudo update-rc.d -f remove hotplug but note the number it runs as first so you can put it back
[01:32] <jessica_> because girls and linux are hard t ocome by?
[01:32] <jessica_> lol
[01:32] <tamale> Amaranth:  Do I really need to install all over again?
[01:32] <Goldfisch> I thought their mechanism was to digitally sign the md5sums.
[01:32] <dooglus> sethk: if you're generating hashes which aren't 128 bits long, you're not generating md5 hashes
[01:32] <kylevan> ok... thanks for the help
[01:32] <Hendikins|Work> Question. Does *anyone* use S/MIME?
[01:33] <sethk> dooglus, nonsense.  look at the md5 spec.
[01:33] <Amaranth> ] m[evilb: only if you downloaded the package and it's dependencies already
[01:33] <Amaranth> tamale: dunno, i've never done it
[01:33] <Amaranth> tamale: you might be able to turn the other 7 drives into a raid array
[01:33] <ajmitch> sethk, dooglus: #ubuntu-offtopic, perhaps
[01:33] <narles> _jason, i'm having trouble.. i get this error.. cp: `libvc1-1.0/src/.': specified destination directory does not exist
[01:33] <Amaranth> tamale: but to get that first one in there too you need to reinstall
[01:33] <kylevan> mwe, number as in runlevel?
[01:33] <ajmitch> hey jblack :)
[01:33] <dooglus> sethk: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1321.txt?number=1321 ?  "This document describes the MD5 message-digest algorithm. The algorithm takes as input a message of arbitrary length and produces as output a 128-bit "fingerprint" or "message digest" of the input."
[01:33] <jblack> ajmitch: Hey buddy!
[01:33] <] m[evilb> Amaranth i downloaded the .deb file
[01:33] <narles> _jason, when trying to use this command $ cp VC1_reference_decoder_release6/decoder/*.[ch]  libvc1-1.0/src/.
[01:33] <mwe> kylevan: runlevels and the S and K numbers
[01:34] <Amaranth> ] m[evilb: sudo dpkg -i <name of file>.deb
[01:34] <jblack> ajmitch: I've got a bit of a ppp problem in dapper, interested in hearing about it?
[01:34] <sethk> dooglus, you have to look at the original articles about md5.  Not the spec for an instance of md5 use.
[01:34] <kylevan> thanks again
[01:34] <ajmitch> jblack: I can hear, but I haven't used a modem for years
[01:34] <sethk> dooglus, in fact you'll find a discussion of the lengths, and when different lengths are appropriate
[01:34] <jblack> Ok, well, ppp doesn't go. No logging or anything.
[01:34] <Goldfisch> Sorry I kicked off all this md5 chit chat. Later....
[01:34] <mwe> kylevan: find /etc/rc*.d -name "*hotplug"
[01:34] <Amaranth> sethk, dooglus: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:35] <dooglus> sethk: you're telling me there's more than one MD5 algorithm?
[01:35] <jblack> I can dial out using mgetty without any problems, but pppd doesn't work, and doesn't log anything.
[01:35] <_jason> narles,  what does ls return
[01:35] <] m[evilb> Amaranth anything else i need 2 know, i'm on windows now, dont want to reboot over and over again :)
[01:35] <kameron> i need a font.. subfont.ttf. i installed the msttcorefonts package, but i still don't have it.
[01:35] <Amaranth> ] m[evilb: not really
[01:35] <ajmitch> jblack: nothing at all in syslog?
[01:35] <mwe> kyncani: here it's just /etc/rcS.d/S40hotplug
[01:35] <] m[evilb> k
[01:35] <Amaranth> bbl
[01:35] <sethk> dooglus, no, I'm telling you that the rfp you cited is not the definition of the md5 algorithm
[01:35] <narles> _jason, commands.odt  DEBIAN  Desktop  drivers  music  videolan
[01:35] <jblack> ajmitch: Not a thing at all, which confuses me, as debug is on
[01:35] <ajmitch> sethk: you've been asked twice :P
[01:35] <sorush20> jessica_: did you get the message?
[01:35] <ajmitch> jblack: that was my next question..
[01:35] <dooglus> sethk: where is the definition?
[01:35] <_jason> narles, cd videolan and try again
[01:36] <sorush20> jessica_: did you send the message I sent you?
[01:36] <narles> _jason, i'm already in videolan
[01:36] <sethk> dooglus, sorry, I've been silenced, for some reason.
[01:36] <jblack> I don't know if its a ppp problem or a kernel problem.
[01:36] <sorush20> anyother girls in here?
[01:36] <sethk> dooglus, don't want to be bounced.
[01:36] <_jason> narles, seems like you are in ~ from the output of ls
[01:36] <ajmitch> jblack: hm, the ppp package hasn't been touched for about 4 weeks in dapper
[01:36] <jblack> I searched malone for ppp bugs, and it looks rather empty there.
[01:36] <ajmitch> jblack: search bugzilla
[01:36] <ajmitch> jblack: the official move still hasn't been done
[01:36] <jblack> ajmitch: Yeah. It worked for me 5 days before christmas, then not on the day before christmas.
[01:37] <jblack> ahh
[01:37] <narles> _jason, i opened up a new terminal for ls
[01:37] <jblack> bwhere is bugzilla?
[01:37] <ajmitch> jblack: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[01:37] <ajmitch> last ppp upload was dec 15
[01:37] <jblack> Thats within the window.
[01:37] <_jason> narles, what does ls return for the other terminal then
[01:38] <jblack> I could have easily gone ten days without updating, updated the day before I left, then bam
[01:38] <ajmitch> jblack: not running anything special, it's just a boring old modem?
[01:39] <narles> _jason, faad2-20040923    libvc1-1.0.tar.gz
[01:39] <narles> faad2-20040923.tar.bz2   VC1_reference_decoder_release6
[01:39] <narles>   ffmpeg      VC1_reference_decoder_release6.zip
[01:39] <narles> libdvdcss-1.2.8      vlc-trunk
[01:39] <narles> libdvdcss-1.2.8.tar.bz2
[01:39] <mwe> narles: don't paste here
[01:39] <narles> sorry
[01:39] <mwe> narles: you'll get banned
[01:39] <_jason> narles, next time pastebin for large pastes
[01:39] <jblack> Hmm. http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20920 doesn't look quite right, but somehow feels very close
[01:40] <_jason> narles, looks like you forgot the  'tar -zxvf libvc1-1.0.tar.gz' command.  First line of 'Compile libvc1' section
[01:40] <ajmitch> jblack: how are you online right now? breezy or another box?
[01:40] <jblack> I'm online via 802.11G on my home network.
[01:41] <mika0800> Run4Fun: Please Don't talk to Jessica ....
[01:41] <jblack> I additionally have a verizon wireless dsl card that works through ppp, that I use when not in the house.
[01:41] <narles> _jason, thanks.. good call
[01:42] <jblack> ajmitch: So same computer, but with 802.11G.
[01:42] <jblack> ajmitch: Also in a probably unrelated note from about the same time, my built in dvdrw stopped working.
[01:43] <iKernel> I just can't seem to mount /dev/hda. I keep on getting this error: mount: /dev/hda already mounted or /mnt/hda busy. What I have done: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6823
[01:43] <ajmitch> jblack: right, and running 'pppd call <provider> debug' does what?
[01:43] <jblack> root@pluto:/dev # pppd call provider debug
[01:43] <jblack> root@pluto:/dev #
[01:43] <mika0800> ok, back to business... modprobe cannot find the "3c509" or "3c509.ko" on the installation CD (Ubuntu Hoary 5.04) ... I have the .iso on another Linux machine's HD, so I mounted it R/O with the loopback device. It is full of .deb -files. Maybe one of those includes 3c509 kernel module, but compressed. How do I extract a compressed module from a .deb and how to know which .deb has it inside ?
[01:43] <ajmitch> instantly back the the commandline?
[01:44] <jblack> Yup
[01:44] <Papoose> anyone know how to install SWAT for Samba?
[01:44] <ajmitch> how odd
[01:44] <jblack> ps aux | grep ppp shows: root     17432  0.0  0.1   2684   860 ttyUSB0  Ss+  19:43   0:00 pppd call provider debug
[01:44] <ajmitch> hm
[01:44] <amonkey> what would be the smart way to change a bunch of folder's names to lower case?
[01:44] <ajmitch> so it's still going in the background, and it's usb serial, too?
[01:44] <jblack> If I add nodetaqch, it runs
[01:44] <jblack> Whoah.
[01:44] <jblack> That worked.
[01:44] <ajmitch> interesting
[01:45] <_jason> amonkey, the rename command, I think man rename actually tells you how
[01:45] <jblack> Ok. so if I add nodetach on the command line, it runs.
[01:45] <jblack> Let me try that in the config for provider
[01:45] <mwe> mika0800: it should be included in the linux-image package which is surely installed
[01:45] <JarG0n> can anyone give me direction on how to resolve video issues after installing the 64bit version of Ubuntu.  My screen goes blank after loading the OS, by displaying a solid (nonblinking) cursor at the top left hand of the screen.  I'm using an Nvidia card, but I can't access the Synaptic Package Manager to do anything according to this url: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[01:46] <mika0800> I also tried the cmd "apt-cache search 3c509" on my other linux box (running Debian sarge/2.4.27 kernel). It found only this: "nictools-nopci - Diagnostic tools for many non-PCI ethernet cards"
[01:46] <jblack> Ok.
[01:46] <iKernel> Can anybody help?
[01:46] <Pr1muZ> hi anyone use a linksys router on ubuntu and mind helping me out?
[01:46] <mwe> mika0800: it's not in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net ?
[01:46] <jblack> ajmitch: Ok, adding nodetach to peers/provider makes things work, but it of course keeps the pty
[01:46] <mwe> mika0800: it should be included in the linux-image package which is surely installed like I said
[01:46] <butcherbird> JarG0n: alt-ctrl-f2 then login then from console sudo apt-get install filename for each package
[01:46] <sethk> Pr1muZ, I use a couple of linksys routers, but there are many of them.  Not likely we are using exactly the same one.
[01:47] <JarG0n> thanks!
[01:47] <sethk> Pr1muZ, but there isn't much different between linksys and any other router
[01:47] <Pr1muZ> well
[01:47] <sethk> Pr1muZ, so just ask your question
[01:47] <Pr1muZ> i dont know anything about routers
[01:47] <jblack> amitch: if I remove nodetach, ppp does come on.
[01:47] <Pr1muZ> and im going to have to set one up soon
[01:47] <Pr1muZ> lol
[01:47] <jblack> ajmitch: regardless, syslog doesn't get anything in any case
[01:47] <dooglus> iKernel: what if you "sudo mkdir /media/ntfs" and then try mounting it there?
[01:47] <astray> Does anyone know why the .xinitrc doesn't work in my home directory?
[01:47] <Pr1muZ> i figure i might as well learn something before i just plug it in and see if it works.
[01:47] <sethk> Pr1muZ, in many cases the default settings are fine.
[01:47] <ajmitch> jblack: so it's just logging broken?
[01:47] <dooglus> astray: gnome doesn't use it.  it uses .gnomerc
[01:47] <sethk> Pr1muZ, really a lot depends on the requirements of the service to which you are connecting
[01:47] <mika0800> mwe: possibly. But the problem is, that if I do not manually intervene things, then I will end up in the same situation as in so many other distros using 2.6 -series kernels: The NIC is not found by the installer. It may be manually activated, but then I need to do ALL od the network configuring work by hand, and that is exactlt what I am trying to avoid!
[01:48] <astray> Idon't use gnome
[01:48] <iKernel> dooglus: 3rd time lucky maybe? Ok
[01:48] <dooglus> iKernel: i didn't realise you'd tried using a different mount point already
[01:48] <jblack> ajmitch: Thats what I'm seeing, yes. Before now though, I could have _SWORN_ that ppp0 never comes up though.
[01:48] <Pr1muZ> well, if i just plug everything in and turn the router on, its highly doubtful that everything would just work right and there, i just dont know where i'd go to set everything up.
[01:48] <iKernel> dooglus: I know
[01:48] <JarG0n> butcherbird> wierd, my screen went blank after hitting alt-ctrl-f2, but I see a blinking cursor.  I'm in some sort of safe mode.
[01:48] <mika0800> So, I'd like to force the installer to load the 3c509 module "3c509.ko" so then my NIC would be autoconfigured by the installation program.
[01:48] <dooglus> iKernel: you have to specify which partition the ntfs filesystem is on.  /dev/hda1 or some such
[01:48] <iKernel> dooglus: Well, no difference this time either
[01:48] <St0n3-C0l> after getting KDE repos updated...am doing kde for install
[01:49] <dooglus> iKernel: "sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda" will list the partitions
[01:49] <iKernel> dooglus: Of course :) I've mounted an ntfs filesystem before (different linux)
[01:49] <St0n3-C0l> but it says kdesdk not going to be installed
[01:49] <jblack> ajmitch: So apparently whatever the problem may have been, now its just a case of logging being broken
[01:49] <dooglus> iKernel: your pastebin shows you trying to mount /dev/hda
[01:49] <butcherbird> JarG0n: couple ways to fix. do you have a livecd?
[01:49] <St0n3-C0l> and doesn't install
[01:49] <mwe> mika0800: just blacklist the wrong module and put the name of the right one in /etc/modules
[01:49] <JarG0n> yeah, the video freezes on that one too
[01:49] <JarG0n> same symptoms
[01:49] <ajmitch> jblack: it's an improvement at least - probably still worth a bugreport
[01:49] <mwe> mika0800: like I already said
[01:49] <jblack> ajmitch: Aye.
[01:49] <iKernel> dooglus: Yep. I've already tried mounting /dev/hda1
[01:49] <Pr1muZ> sethk?
[01:50] <dooglus> iKernel: is that the right number?
[01:50] <St0n3-C0l> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:50] <St0n3-C0l>   kde: Depends: kdesdk but it is not going to be installed
[01:50] <St0n3-C0l> E: Broken packages
[01:50] <butcherbird> JarG0n: right at grub booting there should be an option for recovery mode does that work?
[01:50] <JarG0n> let me check
[01:50] <muszek> hi
[01:50] <sethk> Pr1muZ, I'm not sure what you are asking.  Normally you talk to the router by doing http://192.168.0.1  (or 192.168.1.1)
[01:50] <dooglus> iKernel: run "mount | grep hda" to see if it's already mounted
[01:50] <mika0800> So, I want to install the 3c509 module as early as possible (while running the installation program). And yes, the installer lets me use Ctrl-Alt-F2, I do get a console doing that. That is good news !
[01:50] <butcherbird> JarG0n: if not maybe burn a knoppix cd
[01:50] <iKernel> dooglus: I get some errors in dmesg with hda1
[01:50] <JarG0n> butcherbird> i think that's the safe mode i'm describing.  I'm in it now.
[01:51] <sethk> Pr1muZ, by default.  of course you can change it's address, but after a reset to factory defaults, that's where you start
[01:51] <iKernel> dooglus: It's not mounted, because I've already tried umount hda
[01:51] <muszek> can anyone tell me how to change a language used in gnome for just one user?  I know how to change it for all new accounts, but that's not what I want
[01:51] <iKernel> dooglus: umount /dev/hda rather
[01:51] <Pr1muZ> well
[01:51] <Pr1muZ> ok
[01:51] <Pr1muZ> i have the router right here
[01:51] <Pr1muZ> if i just plugged everything in
[01:51] <Pr1muZ> turned it on
[01:51] <Pr1muZ> where would i go from there
[01:51] <mika0800> mwe: But I want to do it during running the installation program, as early as possible. I do not want  to do that after installation!
[01:51] <butcherbird> JarG0n: happen to have another linux livecd around?
[01:52] <iKernel> dooglus: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6824
[01:52] <JarG0n> no, but I can burn a knoppix cd
[01:52] <blood> how do i mount a file
[01:52] <sethk> Pr1muZ, configure a machine to an address on the same subnet (say 192.168.1.10), connect that machine to the router with a crossover cable, bring up your web browser, and type in   http://192.168.1.1
[01:52] <blood> or a drive
[01:52] <jblack> blood: typically, one doesn't.
[01:53] <jblack> blood: mount -t auto /dev/device /where/you/want/it
[01:53] <Pr1muZ> kk
[01:53] <iKernel> blood: mount -t filesystem /dev/drive
[01:53] <mika0800> And, like I told, I can get a console doing Ctrl-Alt-F2 during install. But if I type modprobe 3c509 from there, I only get an error msg telling it cannot find the module
[01:53] <sethk> Pr1muZ, some of the more expensive routers also have an option to use a USB or serial connection to configure it.
[01:53] <JarG0n> can I load the NVidia drivers from http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_1.0-8178.html ?
[01:53] <dooglus> blood: the "mount" command mounts things
[01:53] <iKernel> blood: What device and what filesystem?
[01:53] <blood> devise is like media/sad1?
[01:53] <blood> my windows partiotion
[01:53] <dooglus> blood: the usage is like this: mount [-fnrsvw]  [-t vfstype]  [-o options]  device dir
[01:54] <butcherbird> JarG0n: try burn knoppix cd and boot then mount your ubuntu partiion then chroot to that mountpoint and see if u can install nvida or whatever
[01:54] <dooglus> blood: you have to specify the mount point (dir) as well as the device
[01:54] <McJerry> given the scenario: ubuntu with samba server installed and started..... /media/laptop directory and a laptop running xp with //laptop/laptop-c shared.....how do i mount the xp share to the /media/laptop dir?
[01:54] <JarG0n> butcher> thx
[01:54] <narles> _jason, when trying to use the make command for compiling VLc i get this error
[01:54] <iKernel> blood: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda /mnt/hda
[01:54] <narles> _jason, /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext
[01:54] <blood> do i have to manipulate anyof that then
[01:54] <mika0800> Or maybe I just need to boot another PC using, for example, the Knoppix CD... then I can copy the needed module from the Knoppix system to either a floppy or a USB memory stick (if that is supported during the install phase...)
[01:55] <_jason> narles, I don't know what that is... have you installed build-essentials?
[01:55] <sethk> mika0800, it would have to be identical kernel code for that to work
[01:55] <iKernel> dooglus: Not nessercarily. If he's already put his device in fstab or mntab then it'll just mount the mount point he speficified
[01:55] <jamie> I am trying to install on a dell 8400 with SATA drives. making / partition reiserfs 40Gb, swap, and also /home reiser fs 120 Gb. I keep getting Base system installer error, the dbootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1) whats wrong.
[01:55] <sethk> narles, that's part of X development
[01:56] <narles> _jason, yes
[01:56] <mika0800> But how much difference is between, say, 2.6.10 and 2.6.12? If I use Knoppix with 2.6.12 (or 2.6.8) and the Ubuntu system is 2.6.10 (and I do NOT want to change that), can I still use the same 3c509 module?
[01:56] <St0n3-C0l> anybody help me :((
[01:56] <dooglus> iKernel: you can't specify a device to mount without specifying a mount point.
[01:56] <narles> sethk, how do i fix thsi error
[01:56] <sethk> narles, install X development packages
[01:56] <iKernel> blood: I know.
[01:56] <djs_2_6> St0n3-C0l - What's up?
[01:56] <iKernel> blood: Read my sentence again
[01:56] <St0n3-C0l> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[01:56] <iKernel> whoops
[01:56] <St0n3-C0l>   kde: Depends: kdesdk but it is not going to be installed
[01:56] <St0n3-C0l> E: Broken packages
[01:56] <narles> sethk, what do i want to type for apt-get
[01:56] <blood> whats " /mnt/hda?"
[01:56] <St0n3-C0l> Want to install kde 3.5 :'(
[01:56] <iKernel> That was directed at dooglus sorry
[01:56] <mika0800> So, that means, that for my idea to work, I need a live CD with exactly 2.6.10 kernel as well ?
[01:57] <sethk> narles, I don't memorize the package names.  use synaptic, it has categories for all that stuff.
[01:57] <blood> mount: mount point /mnt/hda does not exist
[01:57] <dooglus> iKernel: you told him to "mount -t filesystem /dev/drive"
[01:57] <dooglus> iKernel: /dev/drive was the mount point?  that might be a little confusing
[01:57] <iKernel> dooglus: nup
[01:57] <iKernel> brb
[01:57] <mika0800> Do any of you have ubuntu Hoary 5.04 installed ?
[01:58] <sethk> blood, create a directory for mounting.  you can even create a directory called /mnt/hda, if you are so inclined
[01:58] <sethk> blood, you can use any name.
[01:58] <_jason> narles, try installing xlibs-dev
[01:58] <dooglus> blood: /mnt/hda is wherever you want to mount the filesystem.  make it wherever you like
[01:58] <mika0800> if so, can you do apt-cache search 3c509 for me ?
[01:58] <dooglus> blood: "sudo mkdir -p /mnt/hda" for example
[01:58] <blood> .  /backup
[01:58] <blood> is what i was gunna use
[01:59] <blood> but okay
[01:59] <djs_2_6> St0n3-C0l - Do you have your universe and multiverse enabled?
[01:59] <dooglus> blood: that's ok too, though people often make a directory for their mount points, to keep them all together.  /mnt or /media is common
[01:59] <mika0800> blood: you might do that, but that is misleading, because you cannot mount hda, but you sure can mount, say, hda1, or hda5 or whatever you wnat to mount in your system
[01:59] <narles> _jason, poo
[01:59] <St0n3-C0l> djs_2_6: everything enabled :)
[02:00] <narles> _jason, i just installed everything that i got from a search in xext with synaptic
[02:00] <dooglus> blood: then "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda" (replace ntfs with the filesystem type, /dev/hda1 with the device and /mnt/hda with the mountpoint)
[02:00] <_jason> narles, lol I guess that could work too... does it work now?
[02:00] <edoardo> hi gals, hi dudes : )
[02:00] <edoardo> do any of you use hal-0.5.x? cause it don't start over here! help! thankyou! : )
[02:01] <djs_2_6> St0n3-C0l - when you do your apt-get, try adding -f...  (apt-get -f install kde)
[02:01] <djs_2_6> St0n3-C0l - Ok?
[02:01] <St0n3-C0l> means ignore ? :P
[02:01] <narles> _jason, so far
[02:01] <St0n3-C0l> then it'll not install kdelibs4-dev :P
[02:02] <djs_2_6> St0n3-C0l - Means fix dependencies, and install/remove needed packages...
[02:02] <narles> jason_, i want to use sudo checkinstall after i 'make' correct?
[02:02] <djs_2_6> St0n3-C0l - Ok?
[02:02] <mika0800> can someone running Ubuntu please do apt-cache search 3c509 for me?
[02:03] <CanadianSnow> huh?
[02:03] <mika0800> can someone running Ubuntu please do sudo apt-cache search 3c509 for me? (soory for missing the 'sudo' 1st time)
[02:03] <crimsun> nictools-nopci?
[02:03] <CanadianSnow> mika0800 is it?
[02:03] <CanadianSnow> alright...
[02:03] <crimsun> you don't need sudo to perform apt-cache search.
[02:03] <crimsun> what are you trying to do?
[02:03] <mika0800> crimsun: was that the ONLY package you found ?
[02:04] <crimsun> mika0800: yes
[02:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mika0800: Shows nictools-nopci
[02:04] <blood> ./mnt is /mount right
[02:04] <mika0800> oh no! I am trying to locate, what .deb -package has the file "3c509.ko" inside it ?
[02:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mika0800: locate 3c509 shows a kernel module, though
[02:05] <blood> so ited be like so like "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1"
[02:05] <mika0800> Yes, the kernel module is what I want to find
[02:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hm
[02:05] <crimsun> linux-image-foo has the kernel module
[02:05] <JarG0n> where can I get a comprehensive list of commands and how to use them for Ubunto, including chroot?
[02:05] <crimsun> JarG0n: man chroot
[02:05] <JarG0n> thx
[02:06] <_jason> mika0800, linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 and linux-image-2.6.12-10-686 for me :)
[02:06] <selinium> Hi guys, I have got a folder full of files, I would like to concatanate another file onto the end of all these. Is there an easy way of doing this?
[02:06] <butcherbird> blood: example: sudo mount -o umask=0000 /dev/whatever /mnt/whatever
[02:07] <mika0800> PuMpErNiCkLe: "crimsun> linux-image-foo has the kernel module" ... so, that must be where it came from to be extracted. Ok, so how do I extract it manually from this linux-image-foo ??
[02:07] <thick-glasses> anyone using an ATI m200 out there?
[02:07] <_jason> selinium, I think: 'for $i in *; do cat foo >> $i; done' may work
[02:08] <sethk> selinium, you can write a shell loop, which is easy.  Is it every file in the directory?
[02:08] <selinium> _jason, I thought something like that might. Thanks for the pointer
[02:08] <selinium> sethk yes
[02:08] <blood> where did this umask=0000 come from now
[02:08] <cap14> am completely new to linux (yesterday)wanted to load on 2nd hd and loaded on primary by mistake. Windows is gone now, so I'll give linux a try
[02:08] <_jason> selinium, well it might if you get rid of the first $, so  'for i in *; do cat foo >> $i; done'
[02:08] <sethk> selinium, for file in *  do  mv $file $file.bak;  cat whatever $file.bak > $file; rm $file.bak; done
[02:09] <sethk> _jason, that loses the original contents of the file
[02:09] <_jason> sethk, good idea on the bcakup but I think he wants >>, not > right?
[02:09] <sethk> _jason, no.  having moved $file to $file.bak, $file no longer exists
[02:10] <selinium> Cool, thanks for help guys!
[02:10] <gerald-volt> how do I make another copy of a file, but have the copied file a different filename?
[02:10] <_jason> sethk, I see what you did, I think both work
[02:10] <sethk> _jason, yes, that's true, you can >> to the end of the existing file
[02:11] <cap14> I thought linux would run faster on this old machine but it runs about like windows did, am i missing anything
[02:11] <_jason> cp file filewithnewname
[02:11] <bimberi> gerald-volt: cp file newfile (in a terminal) or copy&paste the file in Nautilus then rename the copy
[02:11] <_jason> gerald-volt, ^
[02:11] <flannel> hello everyone
[02:11] <mika0800> I found these too debs matching "linux-image":
[02:12] <sethk> cap14, probably not.  You can't say that it will run faster, or slower.  It depends entirely on what you are doing.
[02:12] <mika0800> ./pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.10/linux-image-2.6.10-5-386_2.6.10-34_i386.deb   AND   ./pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-image-386_2.6.10-7_i386.deb
[02:12] <JarG0n> what does tty1 mean?  It looks like virtual desktops to me.
[02:12] <dooglus> JarG0n: it's a terminal
[02:12] <linlin> !quicktime
[02:12] <ubotu> methinks quicktime is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information on quicktime support or just install the "libquicktime1" package.
[02:12] <JarG0n> ah ok
[02:12] <blood> /dev/sda3       /               ext2    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[02:12] <blood> that a good thing?
[02:12] <dooglus> JarG0n: open a few terminals and type "tty" in each.  they'll each be using a different terminal
[02:12] <mika0800> now, how do I extract the 3c509.ko -file from these .deb -files?
[02:12] <flannel> can anyone tell me why ubuntu would hang 2 times dfuring installation at the point where it preparing primary installation repository
[02:12] <sethk> JarG0n, tty1 is usually a serial port, as in /dev/tty1
[02:12] <JarG0n> I have to hit alt-ctrl+2 to get to something I can see.  The first one is blank.  How to I get to Gnome ?
[02:13] <JarG0n> ok
[02:13] <sethk> JarG0n, the name comes from "teletype"
[02:13] <crimsun> mika0800: dpkg-deb -x foo.deb .
[02:13] <dooglus> mika0800: "ar x <deb file>" then "tar xf" on the contents
[02:13] <mika0800> sethk: isn't that ttyS0, ttyS1 etc ?
[02:13] <sethk> JarG0n, control-alt-f7, but if it is blank, you'll just see blank
[02:13] <sethk> mika0800, there are a series, ttys, ttyS, some others
[02:13] <mika0800> thanks, I will try that...
[02:13] <sethk> mika0800, tty by itself is traditional unix
[02:13] <astray> Anyone know why .xinitrc doesn't work?
[02:14] <sethk> mika0800, typically ttyS0 is a modem, ttys0 is a serial port, but that's just a convention, nothing official.
[02:14] <Eleaf> dooglus, ?
[02:14] <crimsun> astray: because you use ~/.xsession instead
[02:14] <JarG0n> sethk> it doesn't seem to do anything.  It freezes.
[02:14] <blood> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 ,<- how does that know where to mount the drive?
[02:14] <sethk> JarG0n, what freezes?
[02:14] <crimsun> astray: if you're not using startx, then ~/.xinitrc is pretty useless
[02:14] <JarG0n> seth> it displays the last terminal screen chosen, but the cursor stops blinking.
[02:15] <Eleaf> dooglus,
[02:15] <sethk> JarG0n, what does, control-alt-f7?
[02:15] <JarG0n> ctrl+alt+f1 to ctrl+alt+f7 shows the first terminal
[02:15] <Eleaf> dooglus, I installed the kernel.  what else do I need?
[02:15] <sethk> JarG0n, oh, you are in single user (maintenance) mode
[02:15] <JarG0n> yes, it acts like it freezes when I choose that
[02:15] <JarG0n> yes
[02:15] <jamie> when I did an expert install, it tells me I have updates that need to be done. However when I click on the update button in gnome, it makes a click sound and does nothing. What could be wrong?
[02:15] <sethk> JarG0n, that's what you are supposed to see in that mode
[02:16] <JarG0n> how do I get to gnome?  I've only seen it on the Live CD.
[02:16] <theconartist> what do you mean?
[02:16] <theconartist> it is on the default install
[02:16] <jamie> JarG0n, did you use ubuntu or kubuntu, it should load automatically in ubuntu
[02:16] <sethk> JarG0n, from maintenance mode you can do init 5.  but the question is, why are you in maintenance mode in the first place?
[02:16] <JarG0n> ubuntu
[02:17] <sethk> JarG0n, when it puts you in maintenance mode, something went wrong during boot
[02:17] <freak> whats the terminal syntax to execute a python script?
[02:17] <JarG0n> I think I chose that option last time I rebooted
[02:17] <JarG0n> right
[02:17] <jamie> JarG0n, what is loading KDE?
[02:17] <theconartist> freak, you use python
[02:17] <JarG0n> says must be superuser
[02:17] <bimberi> freak: python blah.py
[02:18] <freak> thanks
[02:18] <sethk> JarG0n, yes, to go into maintenance mode, you need to be root.
[02:18] <Eleaf> dooglus,
[02:18] <sethk> JarG0n, but you shouldn't need to go into maintenance mode
[02:18] <JarG0n> jamie> I'm sorry, I don't know what KDE is.  I though I was trying to get into Gnome.
[02:18] <JarG0n> let me restart again
[02:18] <sethk> JarG0n, yes, you are booting, and gnome is the default destination
[02:18] <jamie> JarG0n, what are you in? terminal? because Gnome is standard
[02:19] <JarG0n> yes
[02:19] <jamie> type gdm
[02:19] <JarG0n> what's that stand for?
[02:19] <jamie> JarG0n, type gdm does it work?
[02:19] <JarG0n> thx
[02:19] <narles> _jason, success... finally got sound with VLC
[02:19] <djs_2_6> JarG0n - Gnome Desktop Manager...
[02:19] <JarG0n> "Only root wants to run gdm"
[02:19] <JarG0n> doh!
[02:19] <regeya> yeah, there's a really good question:  I've not had fs corruption bad enough that I go into maint mode at boot.  is one prompted for root passwd?  if so, that's got to be a scary moment for the majority who haven't set a password...
[02:19] <_jason> narles, great
[02:19] <jamie> sudo gdm
[02:19] <narles> _jason, thanks for your help bro... i can watch my saved by the bell movie with sound now
[02:19] <JarG0n> behold the newbie folks
[02:20] <blood> why would i not have permision to view my windows partition from linux?
[02:20] <JarG0n> ok
[02:20] <_jason> narles, np
[02:20] <JarG0n> gdm already running. aborting!
[02:20] <jamie> ctk alt F7
[02:20] <jamie> Ctl Alt F7
[02:20] <sethk> JarG0n, ok, then you should see something in control-alt-f7
[02:20] <JarG0n> freezes. .. my cursor disappears!
[02:21] <sethk> JarG0n, please, that is NOT freezing
[02:21] <jamie> go back to terminal
[02:21] <sethk> JarG0n, freezing is when something does nothing at all.  You can switch back to the other VTs.  you are not frozen
[02:21] <jamie> sudo killall gdm  then sudo killall X
[02:21] <JarG0n> ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[02:21] <JarG0n> ok
[02:21] <mika0800> ok, I now have the 3c509.ko extracted. Any idea, are USB memory sticks supported even during installation of Ubuntu, or is it safer just to copy it to a floppy ?
[02:21] <iKernel> JarGOn: killall -9 gdm?
[02:21] <jamie> JarG0n, then try gdm again
[02:21] <cello_rasp> is there any way i can configure the keyboard + mouse so that ctrl+click acts as a right-click? i'm using an apple mac :|
[02:22] <jamie> JarG0n, iKernel is right killall -9 gdm
[02:22] <JarG0n> X: No process killed
[02:22] <mika0800> btw: is it just the 3c509.ko alone or does it need some support files as well ???
[02:22] <jamie> Jargon did you do the gdm one
[02:22] <iKernel> JarGOn: I think it might have been gdm-binary... killall -9 gdm-binary
[02:22] <JarG0n> killall -9 gdm > gdm: no process killed
[02:23] <JarG0n> thx for your patience :)
[02:23] <iKernel> JarGOn: killall -9 gdm-binary
[02:23] <JarG0n> jamie> I believe so yes
[02:23] <JarG0n> ok
[02:23] <jamie> JarG0n, do what iKernel says
[02:23] <selinium> seth, I get unexpected token near cat when I try to run the command... Any ideas?
[02:23] <selinium> sethk, I get unexpected token near cat when I try to run the command... Any ideas?
[02:23] <tbw> Hi
[02:23] <selinium> sorry seth, wrong seth!
[02:24] <seth> selinium, it happens all the time, no worries
[02:24] <tbw> Does anyone here know about using TV out with binary Nvidia driver?
[02:24] <JarG0n> ikernal> no process killed
[02:24] <regeya> I should contact, erm, someone.  Noticed that, when GnomeBaker uses a ext3+dir_index fs for tmp, and you try to copy an audiocd, the tracks are written in "random" order.  temp fix:  use cdrdao, but that's a bit puzzling.
[02:24] <iKernel> JarGOm: Run top, see what gdm's process is called. See if you can beat me :)
[02:24] <JarG0n> sudo killall -9 gdm-binary ??? or without sudo?
[02:24] <sethk> JarG0n, with.
[02:25] <sethk> JarG0n, but I'm not quite sure why you are killing gdm.  when you start it again, exactly the same thing will happen.
[02:25] <JarG0n> same results... going to perform iKernals last request
[02:26] <Papoose> Can anyone tell me now to install SWAT for Samba?
[02:26] <jesseman_> JarG0n: ps -A | grep gdm
[02:26] <iKernel> JarGOn: Strange, I didn't see anything much related to GDM (apart from some other gnome apps). Try running gdm again
[02:27] <JarG0n> I don't see any running process remotely close to gdm in the process monitor
[02:27] <JarG0n> unless I can scroll down somehow
[02:27] <JarG0n> iKernel> ok
[02:27] <JarG0n> how do I exit this screen?
[02:27] <bimberi> Papoose: sudo aptitude install swat (or use Synaptic) - the universe repository needs to be enabled
[02:27] <JarG0n> process list
[02:28] <astray> ctrl+x
[02:28] <astray> or ctrl+c
[02:28] <JarG0n> doh
[02:28] <mika0800> I tried SWAT in spring 2005... and got nowhere with it... so I  just ended up manually editing /etc/samba/smb.conf ... as well as using smbpasswd and (was it) smbadduser
[02:28] <sethk> JarG0n, q will do it also
[02:28] <narles> testing
[02:28] <JarG0n> I typed sudo gdm, and nothing.
[02:29] <JarG0n> it brings up user@ubuntu:~$ and sits
[02:29] <iKernel> JarG0n: That means gdm successfully started.
[02:29] <Eleaf> hello
[02:29] <sethk> JarG0n, of course.  that's what was run during boot.  you'll see, as I said, exactly the same thing if you run it again.
[02:29] <Sapentis> iKernel, nice handle ;)
[02:29] <JarG0n> Maybe I'm just not able to view it
[02:30] <Eleaf> What is Ubuntu doing when "Calculating Module Dependencies" at boot?
[02:30] <sethk> JarG0n, you have to find out what the problem is.  restarting things won't help you.
[02:30] <jamie> JarG0n, did gnome ever work?
[02:30] <Papoose> bimberi how do I enable universal repository?
[02:30] <sethk> Eleaf, calculating module dependencies
[02:30] <JarG0n> jamie> nope
[02:30] <bimberi> ubotu tell Papoose about universe
[02:30] <Sapentis> sethk, probably. :p
[02:30] <JarG0n> sethk> thanks for your help.  I still have to figure out my display problem, as to why I cannot view gnome.
[02:30] <iKernel> JarG0n: Hold down ctrl, alt and f7 and the same time and see what happens.
[02:30] <Eleaf> sethk, what exactly is it doing?  Mine freezes every time at boot.  will replacing the kernel help that?
[02:30] <JarG0n> ok
[02:30] <ron_> anyone know how to get back to the regular opensource drivers after installing fglrx?
[02:31] <iKernel> JarG0n: Hold down ctrl, alt and f7 at the same time and see what happens.
[02:31] <sethk> Eleaf, well, it's possible, but that's not the right way to fix it.
[02:31] <Eleaf> sethk, how do I fix it?
[02:31] <jamie> ron_,  change Xorg.conf "fglrx" back to "ati"
[02:31] <sethk> Eleaf, can you get to a console login?
[02:31] <JarG0n> iKernel> Same effect as running gdm again.  It freezes the screen until I use ctrl+alt+f1 again.
[02:31] <Eleaf> seth, I am in the livecd, I have chroot access to my harddrive
[02:31] <ron_> i did that but glxinfo reports otherwise
[02:31] <Eleaf> sethk ^^
[02:32] <iKernel> JarG0n: Did you recently install any other drivers for your graphics card?
[02:32] <sethk> Eleaf, chroot won't help here.  I was hoping to trace the module thing, but if you can't get to a prompt you can't do that.
[02:32] <JarG0n> iKernel> I've installed nothing but ubuntu.  I have the linux drivers for my Nvidia card (from their website).
[02:32] <sethk> Eleaf, I think it is probably hanging on whatever it does _after_ calculating module dependencies
[02:32] <Eleaf> seth, I'm in the prompt
[02:32] <JarG0n> I'm assuming I have to load them on there somehow, but I have no idea how to do this.  I need a tutorial on chroot. :/
[02:33] <Eleaf> seth, what difference is being in the prompt and being chrooted into the harddrive?  I can change stuff...
[02:33] <iKernel> JarG0n: Right. And did you install these linux drivers.
[02:33] <iKernel> ?
[02:33] <ron_> should i load glcore in xorg.conf?
[02:33] <Unity> what package should i install to get french spellchecking in openoffice?
[02:33] <Eleaf> sethk, what difference is being in the prompt and being chrooted into the harddrive?  I can change stuff...
[02:33] <JarG0n> iKernel> Not yet.  I think that's the next logical step, no?
[02:33] <sethk> Eleaf, you can't find out why something is in an endless loop unless that thing is running
[02:33] <mwe> ron_: not if you inted to use fglrx
[02:33] <JarG0n> I feel like a whitebelt again :/
[02:33] <Eleaf> seth, well it doesn't boot.  I can't get to a prompt.
[02:33] <sethk> Eleaf, right, I know.
[02:34] <iKernel> JarG0n: hmm... did you make any changes to xorg.conf?
[02:34] <ron_> no i don't jamie all fglrx is lock up my sytem regardless
[02:34] <sethk> Eleaf, the live cd boots, and your installed system won't boot?
[02:34] <Eleaf> seth, I can however I have access to it.  what should I reinstall
[02:34] <Eleaf> sethk yes
[02:34] <JarG0n> iKernel> I did not, as I don't know much of anything about linux.
[02:34] <ron_> i'm just trying to get back to the origianl ati drivers and opengl
[02:34] <Eleaf> sethk, I did a distupgrade and it broke something
[02:34] <linlin> i can not install mplayer
[02:34] <Eleaf> and it won't boot sethk
[02:34] <sethk> Eleaf, oh.  You can try reinstalling the kernel.  It can't hurt.
[02:34] <JarG0n> iKernel> As I mentioned before, I think I need an educational guide first.
[02:35] <sethk> Eleaf, and if there truly is a module dependency issue it might help.
[02:35] <Eleaf> seth, what else?  I wanna reinstall as much as I can..
[02:35] <iKernel> JarG0n: Well, try apt-get install nvidia-glx.
[02:35] <linlin> Package mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:35] <linlin> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:35] <linlin> is only available from another source
[02:35] <linlin> E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[02:35] <Eleaf> sethk, what else?  I wanna reinstall as much as I can..
[02:35] <ron_> brb
[02:35] <martman> how can i get rid of the top menu thingy and get the bottom to be like a normal taskbar?
[02:35] <sethk> Eleaf, impossible to say, really.
[02:35] <linlin> i've enabled multiverse
[02:35] <Eleaf> sethk your name is getting really annoying because of the other user seth
[02:35] <Eleaf> lol
[02:35] <iKernel> linlin: Just get mplayer from mplayer's site. I'll provide a download link for you
[02:35] <sethk> Eleaf, sorry, but I was here first.  :)
[02:35] <JarG0n> iKernel> I have it loaded in my CD_ROM.  I just burned the driver: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8178-pkg2.run
[02:35] <bimberi> Unity: (guessing somewhat) - myspell-fr or myspell-fr-gut (OOo uses myspell)
[02:35] <mwe> linlin: is your sources.list sane?
[02:36] <xClayG> I have an image file that is a .B5I , any ideas on what to use to burn it?
[02:36] <Eleaf> lol
[02:36] <Eleaf> sethk, how do I reinstall modules?
[02:36] <sethk> Eleaf, modules are part of the kernel, usually
[02:36] <Eleaf> ok
[02:36] <Linuturk> hey fellas
[02:36] <Eleaf> I'll try rebooting now...
[02:36] <sethk> Eleaf, occasionally, another package will install a module (a video driver, possibly)
[02:36] <Linuturk> got my wireless working without outside help
[02:36] <Eleaf> seth, will it use the new kernel immediately?
[02:36] <bimberi> linlin: it's not called mplayer - it will be mplayer-386 (or -586 or -k7 ...)
[02:37] <iKernel> JarG0n: You need to actually run it. As root, do: ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8178-pkg2.run
[02:37] <JarG0n> iKernel> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 permission denied) E: Unable to lock the list directory
[02:37] <ardchoille> Linuturk: Good job! :)
[02:37] <Linuturk> Is there anyway to have my system modprobe ndiswrapper and connect to any free networks at startup?
[02:37] <iKernel> JarG0n: You need to be root. sudo -s and type in your password.
[02:37] <mwe> Eleaf: his nick is sethk :)
[02:37] <JarG0n> ok!
[02:37] <cello_rasp> how do i get ctrl+click to act as right click?
[02:37] <bimberi> linlin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[02:37] <Eleaf> mwe, omg I know
[02:37] <mwe> Eleaf: rofl
[02:37] <Eleaf> mwe, whenever I hit tab it goes to seth.  It's so freaking annoying
[02:37] <tbw> Anyone know where I can find information about getting my Nvidia card to not use the component out for the main display?
[02:38] <bimberi> Eleaf: hit tab twice :)
[02:38] <Eleaf> bimberi, that takes too long
[02:38] <Eleaf> lol
[02:38] <bimberi> lol
[02:38] <Eleaf> sethk, I added a new kernel.  but that doesn't show up at boot.. How do I select a new kernel?
[02:38] <JarG0n> iKernel> may I msg you?
[02:38] <iKernel> JarG0n: ok
[02:38] <seth> Eleaf, I was seth_k, and that's still alphabetically in front of sethk. Now I'm seth, and it still buggers :) can't win for losing
[02:38] <JarG0n> thx
[02:39] <sethk> Eleaf, you have to add it to the grub menu.
[02:39] <Eleaf> sethk, ppc doesn't use grub
[02:39] <iKernel> dooglus: You still there?
[02:39] <sethk> Eleaf, ok, the boot manager thing then, I forget the ppc name.
[02:39] <Eleaf> Yaboot
[02:39] <lordmundi> looking for some adivce on a edubuntu install
[02:39] <lordmundi> err advice
[02:39] <sethk> Eleaf, unfortunately I haven't used linux on ppc in almost three years
[02:39] <Linuturk> Is there anyway to have my system modprobe ndiswrapper and connect to any free networks at startup?
[02:40] <JarG0n> doh: Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems
[02:40] <Eleaf> OMFG!!
[02:40] <Eleaf> oh yay!!
[02:40] <Eleaf> I fixed it!!!
[02:40] <JarG0n> iKernel>  sudo -s does not prompt me for my password
[02:40] <Eleaf> -DANCES with sethk and everybody else!!-
[02:40] <Eleaf> YAYA
[02:40] <Eleaf> lol
[02:40] <iKernel> JarG0n: But did it change you to root?
[02:40] <mwe> JarG0n: after 10 minutes it will
[02:40] <franky123> jarg0n: it will prompt you for your passs the firs ttime you use it. then it allows you to use it w/o prompt for like 10 minutes
[02:40] <JarG0n> ~# ?
[02:40] <iKernel> mwe: 15.
[02:40] <mwe> JarG0n: if you used sudo within the last 15 minutes it wont ask again
[02:40] <JarG0n> ah
[02:41] <mwe> iKernel: all right 15 minutes then
[02:41] <Linuturk> unless you go, sudo su
[02:41] <JarG0n> then I must be.  What are my indications I have root?
[02:41] <Linuturk> then, it'll be permanent for the entire session
[02:41] <JarG0n> ok
[02:41] <Linuturk> Is there anyway to have my system modprobe ndiswrapper and connect to any free networks at startup?
[02:41] <mwe> JarG0n: a # instead of a $
[02:41] <JarG0n> right. then I'm in root.
[02:41] <Eleaf> it worked... = )
[02:41] <iKernel> Linuturk: First bit is easy
[02:41] <celeborn> What's the default command to unzip a tar.bz2?
[02:41] <JarG0n> whoo hoo!
[02:41] <sethk> celeborn, xvjf filename
[02:42] <sethk> celeborn, the j means uncompress with bunzip2
[02:42] <Niko-formerlyEag> is there a cli program in ubuntu to change what services start up during init?  I know Fedora has a program called chkconfig...anything similar?
[02:42] <iKernel> Linuturk:  nano /etc/modules. Add ndiswapper on a new line.
[02:42] <celeborn> sethk, thank you
[02:42] <Linuturk> iKernel, I want it to sync with the time servers on the boot. Will that work?
[02:42] <JarG0n> iKernel> now I try to install that driver?
[02:42] <Xenguy> Niko-formerlyEag: rcconf  ?
[02:42] <iKernel> Linuturk:  should do, if it does it otherwise
[02:42] <iKernel> JarG0n: First, try apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:43] <linlin> thankyou bimberi
[02:43] <Linuturk> how do i exit nano?
[02:43] <Niko-formerlyEag> Xenguy: I'll try installing it...thanks
[02:43] <bimberi> linlin: np :)
[02:43] <Madpilot> Linuturk: ctrl+X
[02:43] <Xenguy> Niko-formerlyEag: yw
[02:43] <lordmundi> trying to install edubuntu...  I boot cd and in the first phase of "detecting cd roms" it locks up while "loading ide_cd"... any ideas?
[02:43] <Bachstudies> is the ubuntu firewall installed by default or is it only added by installing firestarter?
[02:43] <jumpkick> linuturk: says at the bottom of the screen
[02:43] <iKernel> Linuturk: ctrl-x. press y, then enter.
[02:44] <bimberi> !firewall
[02:44] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter. see !firestarter
[02:44] <JarG0n> iKernel> whoo hoo! it's doing something!
[02:44] <ardchoille> JarG0n: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:44] <Xenguy> Bachstudies: there is no default firewall; shorewall is another firewall option
[02:44] <Linuturk> got it. Forgot the sudo before loading, so I had to do it again
[02:44] <JarG0n> iKernel> Now what ?
[02:44] <Linuturk> how about auto connecting to any available network?
[02:44] <iKernel> JarG0n: Did it install a kernel-module?
[02:44] <GameOver> hello everyone
[02:45] <JarG0n> ardchoille> thanks... I have that, yet it directs me to user menus in gnome (or KDE) i think, which I cannot access yet.
[02:45] <JarG0n> iKernel> Yes, I think so.
[02:45] <JarG0n> no errors
[02:45] <Bachstudies> Xenguy: so if I don't install firestarter I don't have to worry about opening ports for internet apps?
[02:45] <iKernel> JarG0n: Try modprobe nvidia
[02:45] <Linuturk> well, first let me make sure it's going to load right. brb
[02:45] <GameOver> anyone mind helpin a newb out who has a few questions
[02:45] <Bachstudies> GameOver: sure go ahead!
[02:45] <JarG0n> iKernel> Returned me to root after that.
[02:45] <GameOver> thanks
[02:46] <GameOver> for starters... i cant get my linksys wireless card to work
[02:46] <GameOver> i downloaded ndiswrapper
[02:46] <GameOver> followed directions
[02:46] <iKernel> JarG0n: After modprobe nvidia?
[02:46] <GameOver> and get alot of permission denied errors
[02:46] <JarG0n> iKernel> Yep
[02:46] <iKernel> GameOver: You need to be root.
[02:46] <GameOver> but i am
[02:46] <liuc> dgfj
[02:46] <GameOver> by root u mean sudo
[02:46] <jumpkick> what's the best way to load a single package and its dependancies from dapper without dist-upgrading?
[02:46] <iKernel> GameOver: sudo -s
[02:46] <iKernel> JarG0n: Good. nano /etc/xorg.conf
[02:47] <iKernel> JarG0n: wait no sorry
[02:47] <GameOver> ahh
[02:47] <GameOver> ok
[02:47] <lordmundi> trying to install edubuntu...  I boot cd and in the first phase of "detecting cd roms" it locks up while "loading ide_cd"... any ideas?
[02:47] <GameOver> let me see what i can do
[02:47] <linlin> enyc Package mplayer-386 has no installation candidate :(
[02:47] <iKernel> JarG0n: nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[02:47] <linlin> oops
[02:47] <linlin> what the heck
[02:47] <iKernel> JarG0n: nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:47] <JarG0n> ok
[02:47] <linlin> E,,:: Package mplayer-386 has no installation candidate :(
[02:48] <sethk> lordmundi, you can try an install argument to turn off DMA for IDE devices
[02:48] <JarG0n> got it
[02:48] <iKernel> JarG0n: Go down to Section "Device"
[02:48] <linuturk> works
[02:48] <linuturk> thank you fellas
[02:48] <JarG0n> ok
[02:48] <timfrost> linlin, did you do 'apt-get up[date' after adding multiverse?
[02:48] <JarG0n> i'm there
[02:49] <linlin> yes
[02:49] <linlin> ill pastebin my sources.list
[02:49] <iKernel> JarG0n: Change "nv" to "nvidia"
[02:49] <linlin> maybe i did something wrong
[02:49] <Linuturk> I now have a fully functional Ubuntu install
[02:49] <lordmundi> sethk:  which argument should i use?
[02:50] <JarG0n> iKernel> done
[02:50] <sethk> lordmundi, I don't remember the specific string.  f1 should show it to you
[02:50] <lordmundi> k
[02:50] <lordmundi> i'll go give it a shot
[02:50] <iKernel> JarG0n: Saved?
[02:50] <JarG0n> dunno how?
[02:51] <Linuturk> What is the best way to make sure all my hardware is working correctly?
[02:51] <JarG0n> There's no "file" save!!
[02:51] <JarG0n> lol
[02:51] <iKernel> JarG0n: Press ctrl and x at the same time
[02:51] <burnhamd_> hello I have a wireless keyboard/ mouse that connects via one usb plug and I must set usb legacy support in the bios for grub to work
[02:51] <burnhamd_> my problem is that ubuntu doesnt boot when I turn legacy usb on
[02:51] <JarG0n> saved
[02:51] <iKernel> JarG0n: Returned to root?
[02:51] <celeborn> sudo apt-get install mplayer-686 doesn't work?
[02:51] <burnhamd_> cannot allocate pci 5:0:0 or something similar
[02:52] <burnhamd_> anyone know hox to solve this
[02:52] <JarG0n> yes
[02:52] <iKernel> JarG0n: Ok. nano /etc/modules
[02:52] <iKernel> JarG0n: Put nvidia at the bottom, save, and reboot.
[02:53] <Linuturk> iKernel, don't forget to tell them to use sudo in front of that
[02:53] <astray> Anyone know of a way to replace the gnome right-click menu with the one openbox uses?
[02:53] <iKernel> Linuturk: He's on the root account.
[02:53] <mwe> Linuturk: he's at a root prompt
[02:53] <Papoose> how do i edit .conf files?
[02:53] <JarG0n> yeah, but thx
[02:53] <timfrost> celeborn, mplayer-586 is for PentiumPro or better.
[02:53] <iKernel> Papoose: nano foo.conf
[02:53] <celeborn> timfrost, what would be for AMD?
[02:53] <JarG0n> how do I reboot from the command line?
[02:53] <JarG0n> exit?
[02:53] <Linuturk> iKernel, o, well i missed that when you helped me. Just trying to be helpful myself
[02:53] <mwe> Papoose: probably need sudo
[02:54] <_jason> JarG0n, sudo reboot
[02:54] <iKernel> JarG0n: Just type in reboot and hit enter
[02:54] <psusi> JarG0n, shutdown -r now
[02:54] <iKernel> _jason: No need for sudo
[02:54] <mwe> init 6
[02:54] <iKernel> psusi: Don't use shutdown, reboot is easier.
[02:54] <psusi> ahhh
[02:54] <_jason> iKernel, really? mine complains
[02:54] <JarG0n> thx!
[02:54] <mwe> _jason: he's at a root prompt still
[02:55] <_jason> oh
[02:55] <Linuturk> now that I have this working correctly, I don't know what to do with linux lol
[02:55] <psusi> wait a second... you can't run reboot without sudo either
[02:55] <psusi> it isn't suid
[02:55] <mwe> psusi: hello are you sleeping?
[02:55] <celeborn> What's the mplayer-XXX package that works for AMD?
[02:55] <crimsun> it doesn't matter. 'reboot' calls 'shutdown' if runlevel isn't 0 or 6.
[02:55] <mwe> psusi: he's at a root prompt
[02:55] <_jason> ubotu, tell celeborn about mplayer
[02:55] <tamale> Hello, does anyone know much about mdadm here?
[02:55] <iKernel> tamale: Never heard of it
[02:56] <eheitner> Hello all. Can anyone help me figure out why SANE is not recognizing my scanner? It is a UMAX PowerlookII which is a supported model, supposedly.
[02:56] <psusi> I thought someone said no need for sudo with reboot?  maybe I misunderstood
[02:56] <tamale> it's the linux  software raid
[02:56] <iKernel> psusi: I said that.
[02:56] <JarG0n> psusi> if your logged in as root, no need?
[02:56] <JarG0n> iKernel> it's rebooting now.
[02:56] <tamale> I'd like to setup software raid 5 on my ubuntu box
[02:56] <iKernel> psusi: No need for sudo for anything if you're logged on as root.
[02:56] <tamale> and don't know where to start
[02:56] <iKernel> JarG0n: ok
[02:56] <mwe> psusi: yeah :)
[02:56] <psusi> iKernel, ohh, thought you meant no need for sudo with the reboot command ;)
[02:56] <tamale> and another, general question,  what's the default root password in ubuntu ?
[02:57] <mika0800> hmmm... durin installation, modprobe does not work (probably beacause the database it needs to resolve dependencies does not exist yet)... but insmod does. After using that, the NIC is recognised correctly. Even DHCP works. After the install is complete, I would guess there will be no problems with the NIC....
[02:57] <psusi> tamale, there is none
[02:57] <crimsun> tamale: nothing you could probably guess within a lifetime.
[02:57] <JarG0n> iKernel> Ok i'm still getting the same symptoms.  Screen freezes with non blinking cursor in upper left of screen
[02:57] <psusi> ubotu, tell tamale about root
[02:57] <iKernel> JarG0n: Are you sure you have your moniter plugged into your nvidia card?
[02:57] <tamale> how do you do things like mdadm then
[02:57] <mwe> mika0800: i don't know. if there is just do what I told you several times already
[02:57] <Mazin> what media players utilize the w32codecs package?
[02:58] <JarG0n> iKernel> yes, but i'll check just cause you asked me to. :)
[02:58] <edoardo> do any of you guys use hal?
[02:58] <psusi> edoardo, we all do... we use ubuntu
[02:58] <psusi> which uses hal
[02:58] <mika0800> So for all those, who cannot get their network going: this is good news: if you reinstall and use insmod *during* the installation, as early as possible, I'd guess the network will work just fine !
[02:58] <iKernel> Mazin: Mplayer uses w32codecs fine. Just download it from their site, and follow the instructions.
[02:58] <crimsun> Mazin: mplayer, kaffeine, totem, ...
[02:58] <holler> Mazin: totem-xine gxine xine
[02:58] <mwe> mika0800: blacklist or even remove the bad module and put the name of the correct one in /etc/modules
[02:58] <JarG0n> iKernel> it's plugged into a dual card system.  The cards are hooked together.  Maybe I need to load the actual drivers from the website?
[02:59] <Mazin> how do i make totem use it?  is it automatic?
[02:59] <iKernel> JarG0n: Try not using a dual card system.
[02:59] <edoardo> psusi, that's good. do you have any idea as to how it starts, and then after two seconds it stops? i can't run it anymore. behaves like that : )
[02:59] <pundai> hey is nvidia-glx dependent on the kernel version
[02:59] <mwe> mika0800: there was no need to try several distributions or reinstall
[02:59] <JarG0n> iKernel> ok, i'll take one out and see. Thx!
[02:59] <holler> Mazin: yes, if u install it correctly
[02:59] <PuMpErNiCkLe> pundai: yeah
[02:59] <iKernel> JarG0n: Try just plugging it straight into the nvidia card.
[02:59] <holler> theres a couple threads on the forum that have good methods to getting around to it..
[03:00] <pundai> PuMpErNiCkLe, 5ux
[03:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> o_O
[03:00] <iKernel> JarG0n: I mean take out the dual card althogether, and use only the nvidia card.
[03:00] <JarG0n> iKernel> yeah, right now it is hooked directly into one, but internally they're both connected via the motherboard feature, and some bridging device.
[03:00] <holler> Mazin: i think somebody set up a script that does everything for you
[03:00] <edoardo> psusi, i was usin' 0.4.8 and it started fine. then i upgraded to 0.5.5.1, and had that issue. so i downgraded to 0.5.4, then back to 0.4.8... and it don't start! : (
[03:00] <edoardo> psusi, help? : )
[03:00] <Mazin> well, i installed the w32codecs deb package
[03:00] <JarG0n> iKernel> that means I will only be able to use one of them for the purpose of this test, correct?  They are both Nvidia cards. :)
[03:00] <psusi> edoardo, use the most current version in the repositories for one ;)
[03:01] <Mazin> but totem just tells me i don't have the right decoder
[03:01] <iKernel> JarG0n: Yep.
[03:01] <psusi> edoardo, and if you are sure it is dieing, you might try starting it by hand... hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes, and look at the output
[03:01] <mika0800> mwe: With my previous install (now gone because I formatted that partition of hard disk) I could get the NIC half-working. PING would work, and http to local LAN with IP addresses as well. BUt I was unable to configure the network properly. By reinstalling, but forcing the installer to recognize the NIC correctly, I expect to be able to automate all network settings and leave the configuration to the installer, and avoid doing it manually. Your s
[03:01] <JarG0n> IKernel> Working on it now.  I'll let you know if it works.  Thank you!
[03:01] <mwe> Mazin: yes it probably is set to use gstreamer
[03:01] <holler> Maxin: check in synaptic whether u have totem or totem-xine is installed..
[03:02] <holler> Mazin: make sure you have totem-xine installed....totem is just the gstreamer package...which has some issues
[03:02] <edoardo> psusi, 03:01:53.342 [E]  hald_dbus.c:1934: dbus_bus_get(): Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory
[03:02] <mwe> mika0800: probably but it's a lot of unnececary work
[03:02] <edoardo> psusi, dbus issue then?
[03:02] <mika0800> I had other reasons to switch distro as well. I had a Debian Sarge with 2.6.8 kernel, and I wanted 2.6.10 instead.
[03:02] <Mazin> okay, i'll try totem-xine
[03:02] <iKernel> Last time I saw, the nvidia drivers from nvidia's website for geforce2 were for the IA32 cpu arch. Pretty annoying.
[03:02] <mwe> mika0800: you should have just blacklisted or removed the bad module and put the name of the right one in /etc/modules
[03:02] <Mazin> should i remove gstreamer
[03:03] <holler> Mazin: no, gstreamers fine...
[03:03] <iKernel> Mazin: *sigh*
[03:03] <iKernel> Mazin: Lemme see if I can recall how to install w32codecs for mplayer.
[03:03] <holler> Mazin: if it asks u to remove...then remove it..
[03:03] <Mazin> actually, will amarok work, i'm gonna dl it
[03:03] <kameron> !w32codecs
[03:03] <ubotu> w32codecs is probably a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[03:03] <mika0800> mwe: You are right IF you are able to do all network configuration manually. If not, then you're wrong. And the same of course applies to anyone with the same problem... so even if you're able to configure your network all manually, others may not be....
[03:03] <mwe> I've had only bad experiences with gstreamer
[03:04] <mwe> mika0800: it's like dhclient, done
[03:05] <mwe> mika0800: whatever works for you though. it's your machine. fill your boots
[03:05] <holler> Mazin: amarok is for KDE...
[03:05] <Eleaf> holler, I love amarok
[03:05] <mika0800> Well, if I ever have problems like this again, I will test that. But I would not be so sure.... for example ifup would just quit with error msg "unknown alias: eth0" ... whereas ifconfig DOES understand what is eth0 ...
[03:05] <iKernel> Mazin: Install mplayer. download codecs here: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/windows-all-20050412.zip put them in this directory: /usr/local/lib/codecs/
[03:06] <mwe> iKernel: why not use the w32codecs deb?
[03:06] <concept10> !info VLC
[03:06] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[03:06] <holler> !totem-xine
[03:06] <ubotu> [totem-xine]  like, totally, sudo apt-get install totem-xine. To play non-free formats, get the w32codecs. The instructions are at http://https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats section Codecs
[03:06] <psusi> edoardo, looks like it
[03:07] <holler> !totem
[03:07] <ubotu> holler: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:07] <iKernel> mwe: Because I like to do things that work for me. I haven't tried using w32codecs deb, nor am I going to (incase it doesn't work).
[03:07] <woodgrain> .dmrc error reported on boot -- what is .dmrc??
[03:07] <concept10> I wonder what happened to GTK2 VLC, wxwidgets it not so nice
[03:07] <crimsun> concept10: I disabled it in Breezy due to toolkit and vlc borkage.
[03:08] <mwe> iKernel: i see. maybe other people like to use debs instead
[03:08] <crimsun> concept10: if you're interested, read the changelog.
[03:08] <narles> k
[03:08] <crimsun> concept10: if you simply Can't Live Without GTK+ 2.0 VLC, then use the breezy-backports version.
[03:09] <woodgrain> what's .dmrc?
[03:09] <crimsun> woodgrain: a conffile for device-mapper?
[03:09] <iKernel> woodgrain: www.google.com/linux
[03:09] <tamale> i can't believe no one here's used mdadm
[03:09] <tamale> hah
[03:09] <iKernel> tamale: man mdadm
[03:09] <woodgrain> crimsun, how do you think I could have gotten an error in that file?
[03:09] <jamie> I did a expert mode install As I kept getting errors during regular install. (long story) install worked great. However sudo does not seam to work correctly, I do notice I can do an actual root login also. If I am in as a user and I try to open updator or synaptic it will not open. If I type it in from root terminal it will open. I assume I need to assign permissions in sudo how do I do that?
[03:10] <crimsun> woodgrain: -ECONTEXT?
[03:10] <holler> anybody know good source for console applications
[03:10] <holler> ?
[03:10] <woodgrain> iKernel,  thanks will check that.
[03:11] <alekandr> Ok, does linux have webcam support like msn has webcam?
[03:12] <mwe> alekandr: msn is not an os. linux is
[03:12] <mwe> alekandr: and linux has webcam support, yes
[03:12] <alekandr> you know what i meant
[03:12] <alekandr> its 2am
[03:12] <alekandr> my brain doesnt work correctly
[03:12] <mwe> alekandr: :)
[03:13] <alekandr> ok mwe, do any messengers have webcam support?
[03:13] <mwe> alekandr: kopete does
[03:13] <alekandr> mwe: ;)
[03:14] <alekandr> ok, now i need to find out how to install the cam, and where to find drivers for it :|
[03:14] <alekandr> lets start with the wiki
[03:14] <holler> does anybody know wuts a good firewall ?
[03:15] <mwe> alekandr: I think it's generally plug; (enjoy|cry)
[03:15] <alekandr> holler: firestarter
[03:15] <alekandr> man, mwe lsusb detects something, and device manager knows its a webcam
[03:15] <alekandr> so it must be doing something right?
[03:16] <mwe> alekandr: yeah like plugging the thing in :)
[03:16] <alekandr> oh man
[03:16] <alekandr> shh
[03:16] <holler> alekandr: i've been using firestarter...problem is i can't change the configs through ssh, so i need to find another one that lets me edit any files through vi/emacs/nano
[03:17] <alekandr> holler: man iptables
[03:17] <mwe> holler: you can just edit the rules by hand
[03:17] <holler> ooo...
[03:17] <gerald-volt> anyone know where firefox puts all the temporary files/
[03:17] <holler> how do i do that then..?
[03:17] <mwe> holler: firestarter is just a front end to iptables like any linux firewall anyway
[03:17] <StdUrnm> alekandr, -- do any messengers have webcam support? -- amsn does too
[03:17] <holler> mwe: did not know that...
[03:18] <alekandr> StdUrnm: ooo, music too my ears :] 
[03:18] <nter> i think kopete does
[03:18] <mwe> holler: poke around in /etc/firestarter/ and read the iptables manual to understand the basics of iptables rules
[03:19] <DShepherd> I apt-getted the fast-user-switch-applet.. how do i launch it?
[03:20] <holler> mwe: on it...thanks..=)
[03:20] <mwe> holler: you're welcome
[03:20] <GameOver> hey i kern
[03:20] <GameOver> it works now thanks.....
[03:20] <GameOver> but now my question is how do i get it to start everytime i boot
[03:21] <unkn0wn2u> can anyone recommend a tool for loading and unloading modules , like a gui or curses based program?
[03:21] <celeborn> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[03:21] <celeborn>   mplayer-386: Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-20 but it is not installable
[03:21] <celeborn> E: Broken packages
[03:21] <C-O-L-T> does exist a kind of world atlas for linux?
[03:21] <C-O-L-T> so where can I find
[03:21] <celeborn> Does anybody know how to get around this?
[03:21] <C-O-L-T> country maps
[03:21] <C-O-L-T> and so on
[03:21] <GameOver> IKERNAL?
[03:21] <mwe> celeborn: yeah unbreak your sources.list
[03:21] <mwe> celeborn: and sudo apt-get update
[03:22] <unkn0wn2u> GameOver put a startup script in xsession
[03:22] <GameOver> im a newb.... whats xsession
[03:23] <GameOver> and how do i access it
[03:23] <unkn0wn2u> in your home folder .xsession
[03:23] <ilba7r> 1dmix
[03:23] <ilba7r> !dmix
[03:23] <ubotu> somebody said dmix was at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[03:23] <GameOver> its not there
[03:23] <GameOver> in the home folder
[03:23] <hikenboot> in ubunto how do i tell the version of gcc installed I did an echo $CC and dont get anything?
[03:23] <unkn0wn2u> make it
[03:24] <GameOver> how
[03:24] <cafuego> hikenboot: gcc -v
[03:24] <dooglus> GameOver: you want your wireless card to work for all users don't you?
[03:24] <GameOver> yes
[03:24] <celeborn> mwe, well I only get that error when I add deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe multiverse
[03:24] <celeborn> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary universe multiverse
[03:24] <celeborn>  to sources, but without those I get Package mplayer-386 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:24] <dooglus> so whatever needs running should run at boot time, not when a user decides to log in
[03:24] <dooglus> GameOver: stick the line you need to run at the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[03:25] <dooglus> GameOver: then it will run when you boot
[03:25] <mwe> celeborn: of course. don't mix hoary into breezy
[03:25] <hikenboot> I installed the gcc packages but it tells me  gcc: command not found do i have to configure gcc some how or specify an environment variable?
[03:25] <mwe> celeborn: replace hoary with breezy in that line an it should work
[03:25] <dooglus> hikenboot: try gcc-4.0
[03:25] <cafuego> hikenboot: install build-essential. What are you compiling anyway?
[03:26] <lakin> Hi, I'm preparing a laptop with ubuntu and have installed network-manager.  There are no wireless networks nearby, but I didn't expect NM to list only the "wired network" menu option when I click on it.  I'm unsure if that means that it doesn't detect my wireless card or if it just doesn't detect wireless networks.
[03:26] <hikenboot> nvidia drivers
[03:26] <GameOver> just type in ndiswrapper?
[03:26] <GameOver> dooglus?
[03:26] <GameOver> in kate?
[03:26] <hikenboot> i installed gcc-4.0 and 3.4 and 3.3
[03:26] <cafuego> hikenboot: You don't need a compiler, they're pre-built.
[03:26] <dooglus> GameOver: you'll need to use "sudo" to edit it.  in kate, or whatever else
[03:26] <hikenboot> no it compiles if it doesnt find a prebuilt one for the particular kernel
[03:26] <cafuego> hikenboot: Install the restricted-modules-$(uname -r) package and 'nvidia-glx'.
[03:26] <dooglus> hikenboot: I mean try typing "gcc-4.0" instead of "gcc"
[03:26] <hikenboot> oh
[03:27] <cafuego> hikenboot: No, the're IN UBUNTU. Don't go installing shit from nvidia.com
[03:27] <GameOver> so how do i do that... sorry for the noobish questions.... in the command terminal its sudo... then what
[03:27] <hikenboot> gcc-4.0 worked
[03:27] <dooglus> GameOver: I would "sudo kate /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh"
[03:27] <cafuego> Even if it worked, don't go installing shit from nvidia.com
[03:27] <StdUrnm> kate
[03:27] <hikenboot> you mean the real nvidia drivers are included not the nv version?
[03:27] <cafuego> hikenboot: yes.
[03:27] <StdUrnm> whoops
[03:28] <hikenboot> ok hikenboot looks for them
[03:28] <cafuego> hikenboot: They're in the 'restricted' repository.
[03:28] <hikenboot> ah ok
[03:28] <concept10> crimsun, oh thanks for the reply (I was away)
[03:28] <dooglus> hikenboot: there's supposed to be a symlink from /usr/bin/gcc to gcc-4.0 - but sometimes it doesn't get made.  ubuntu's a bit flaky sometimes
[03:28] <unkn0wn2u> what is wrong with the nvidia drivers from nvidia?
[03:28] <cafuego> unkn0wn2u: They're not in the package system.
[03:29] <iKernel> Use kernel frame buffer device for a nvidia card?
[03:29] <unkn0wn2u> ok
[03:29] <crimsun> dooglus: in that case gcc-4.0 needs to be --reinstalled
[03:29] <cafuego> dooglus: Still, gcc-4.0 on breezy shouldn't be used for kernel module builds.
[03:29] <dooglus> crimsun: why would you need to reinstall anything?
[03:29] <unkn0wn2u> I guess no one should ever compile from source
[03:29] <cafuego> unkn0wn2u: Not if there's 1) no need and 2) no experience in doing so.
[03:30] <iKernel> dooglus: I'm still having trouble with the ntfs drive. Please note that anything you said to me after I said "brb", I will not have seen.
[03:30] <dooglus> unkn0wn2u: if nobody ever compiled from source, where would the binaries come from?
[03:30] <danny> Hey any one help me i cant play my mp3s
[03:30] <GameOver> it keeps saying communication problem with kate... it probably crashed
[03:30] <dooglus> iKernel: so there's no need for me to apologise then?
[03:30] <GameOver> dooglus?
[03:31] <JarG0n> While configuring X server, it's asking me "Use kernel framebuffer device interface ?" Y/N? X Server wants to communicate through this interface.  Should I use this?
[03:31] <dooglus> GameOver: yes?
[03:31] <iKernel> dooglus: I'm not sure.
[03:31] <GameOver> sudo kate /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[03:31] <GameOver> opps
[03:31] <cafuego> JarG0n: no
[03:31] <GameOver> well it says that there is a communication problem with kate
[03:31] <GameOver> it probably crashed
[03:31] <JarG0n> yikes
[03:31] <foka> join #ubuntu-zh
[03:31] <dooglus> GameOver: I don't use kate.  It's all a bit too KDE for my tastes.  Do you have gedit?
[03:31] <foka> Oops, sorry.  :-)
[03:31] <JarG0n> IKernel> i'll have to go back
[03:31] <dooglus> GameOver: if so, try "sudo gedit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh"
[03:32] <unkn0wn2u> vi
[03:32] <iKernel> cafuego: Why not?
[03:32] <DShepherd> does anyone know of any program that can open Publisher files...? other than microsoft files?
[03:32] <jnymo> hi
[03:32] <cafuego> iKernel: Can make X wonky.
[03:32] <cafuego> (and slow)
[03:32] <GameOver> no i dont have it
[03:32] <iKernel> cafuego: With a nvidia card? Doesn't seem to be too bad with an ati card...
[03:32] <GameOver> i can get it with adept?
[03:33] <Sapentis> There are Twenty-nine million registered linux users.
[03:33] <jnymo> trying to follow the directions on http://www.vmware.com/community/thread.jspa?messageID=322791&tstart=0 to install vmplayer... but sudo apt-get gcc-3.4 can't be found in the package list
[03:33] <ubuntu> hey you guys, can i get some help?  I can't access my windows files on my hdd (using live CD right now) and when i go to Partition properties of my main HDD, it says Partition 1 - inaccessible and when i click on Enable it does nothing
[03:33] <iKernel> Sapentis: How do I register?
[03:33] <hikenboot> so i should ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 /usr/bin/gcc after creating directory gcc ?
[03:33] <dooglus> GameOver: do you know 'vi' or 'nano'?  they can both edit it
[03:33] <concept10> I havent used backports in a while (since back when backports borked FF 1.05 or something)  Are there any major issue out there now before I grab these apps?
[03:33] <Sapentis> iKernel, http://counter.li.org
[03:33] <cafuego> iKernel: SWitched from X to console recently? On nvidia is can make the console illegible. You only really need it on systems where you ONLY have an fbcon interface, like macs, or possibly embedded devices.
[03:33] <Mez> concept10, as long as you use the official ones - no
[03:33] <edoardo> psusi, can you help me out again dude?
[03:34] <edoardo> psusi, i fixed dbus, and hal now starts. so does ivman
[03:34] <amonkey> what's the opposite of eject?
[03:34] <jnymo> this is a fresh install of ubuntu 5.10 too, and I've installed the 'essentials' package too
[03:34] <dooglus> amonkey: inject
[03:34] <ubuntu> hey you guys, can i get some help?  I can't access my windows files on my hdd (using live CD right now) and when i go to Partition properties of my main HDD, it says Partition 1 - inaccessible and when i click on Enable it does nothing
[03:34] <ubuntu> ^^
[03:34] <edoardo> psusi, the issue is, i plugin a usb key... and nothin' happens!
[03:34] <amonkey> dooglus, i was being serious. the opposite of eject is eject -t but that's not working for my usb drive
[03:35] <hikenboot> dooglus so i should ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 /usr/bin/gcc after creating directory gcc ?
[03:35] <iKernel> cafuego: I'm using an ati card here :) However, at home, on my nvidia card, I don't use kernel frame buffer
[03:36] <dooglus> hikenboot: "sudo ln -s gcc-4.0 /usr/bin/gcc" is how it usually looks
[03:36] <cafuego> iKernel: It's just one of those things, if you don't need it, don't enable it, so it can't break ;-)
[03:36] <unkn0wn2u> amonkey, are you trying to mount your usb
[03:36] <iKernel> cafuego: Well, I got told I should switch it on. So I did. No problems so far.
[03:36] <jnymo> anybody know why apt isn't seeing gcc-3.4 for me?
[03:37] <iKernel> jnymo: apt-get install gcc3
[03:37] <jnymo> I see 3.3 and 4.0 (I have 4.0 installed)
[03:37] <cafuego> !info gcc-3.4
[03:37] <daskog> Yeah..Ubuntu once again proves to be top notch =) This is sooo waird! Second time i install Ubuntu x86-64 now ubuntu decides it suddenly likes my Wireless card! besides all i've talked to says my wifi card is not supported! go figure?? =)
[03:37] <amonkey> unkn0wn2u, neg. it's an ipod, after you eject and try to 'inject' with eject -t (the command to close the cd tray, which does from the ipod's side seem to induce connection) the computer can't find sdb, nor can it re-eject
[03:37] <bimberi> cafuego: even "Package 'ubuntu-desktop' does not exist."
[03:37] <cafuego> bimberi: Mebbe the mirror server the bot is set to use is busted.
[03:38] <cafuego> wouldn't be the first time. I'll check.
[03:38] <jnymo> iKernel: well, the directions say "Verify the version of gcc used to compile your kernel"
[03:38] <hikenboot> oh...hmmm could i also instead of linking it to a particular gcc version do a export CC=gcc-4.0   ?
[03:38] <iKernel> daskog: Perhaps everyone you talked to didn't know much about x86-64 proccessors.
[03:38] <cafuego> hikenboot: That's the preferred way.
[03:38] <bimberi> cafuego: ah ok,  fyi "info gcc-3.4 dapper" does work
[03:38] <iKernel> jnymo: Find out what version of gcc your kernel was compiled with.
[03:38] <unkn0wn2u> amonkey try lsusb
[03:39] <jnymo> so I see 3.4 compiled my kernel. and then the directions tell me to do a sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[03:39] <iKernel> jnymo: You might need to enable more repos.
[03:39] <daskog> I guess i can't always believe the hype. Anyway this time im staying with Ubuntu for real! this is just impresive =) thanks to all who works hard on Ubuntu
[03:39] <cafuego> bimberi: "You don't have permission to access /pub/ubuntu/archive/dists/ on this server."
[03:40] <cafuego> bimberi: I'll switch it over.
[03:40] <jnymo> ah..hm.. k.. what was that sight? auto-repo.ubuntu.comsomething?
[03:40] <jnymo> s/sight/site
[03:40] <cafuego> ubotu: piss off
[03:40] <iKernel> Does EVERYONE use perl here or something?
[03:40] <ubotu> Jawohl!
[03:40] <QMario> Okay, Ubuntu's version of Firefox is freezing my system each time I stay on it for a while?
[03:41] <amonkey> unkn0wn2u, Apple never leaves lsusb, even when ejected
[03:41] <bimberi> cafuego: thanks! :)
[03:41] <QMario> Could it be Flash?
[03:41] <iKernel> Jawohl means yes.
[03:41] <QMario> Hello cafuego!!! :)
[03:41] <cafuego> mornin'
[03:41] <FlannelKing> is there no way to disable screensavers entirely?
[03:41] <Hendikins|Work> QMario: Could be anything. Does the official version have the same problem?
[03:41] <QMario> I don't know. Let me see.
[03:42] <mwe> cafuego: did you sleep yet?
[03:42] <Hendikins|Work> QMario: Does it also hang on particular sites? Is the problem in any way reproducable?
[03:42] <daskog> Say you all tomorrow, night
[03:42] <cafuego> FlannelKing: tell the screensaver to be disbaled in its prefs.
[03:42] <unkn0wn2u> amonkey, thats wierd how about fuser -v /dev/sdb
[03:42] <cafuego> mwe: Yes, all night long.
[03:42] <QMario> Hendikins|Work, yes.
[03:42] <cafuego> Heeeeere bot bot bot!
[03:42] <Hendikins|Work> QMario: And you are running Firefox as a user, not using sudo?
[03:42] <FlannelKing> cafuego, Im looking at that dialog right now, wheres the disabled checkbox?
[03:42] <cafuego> !info gcc-3.4
[03:42] <QMario> http://rinkworks.com/stupid/
[03:42] <QMario> Hendikins|Work, yes.
[03:42] <amonkey> unkn0wn2u, blank
[03:42] <FlannelKing> oh, nevermind, found it cafuego
[03:42] <cafuego> ... trash bad package lists...
[03:42] <FlannelKing> thanks
[03:43] <amonkey> mount reports "does not exist"
[03:43] <GameOver> ok got it to work doobus
[03:43] <GameOver> thanks
[03:43] <Hendikins|Work> QMario: I don't have a release version of Firefox to check that page with.
[03:43] <cafuego> !info gcc-3.4
[03:43] <QMario> Okay, and also my CPU just jumps to 100% for one Firefox process running. :'(
[03:43] <unkn0wn2u> amonkey, what about tail /var/log/messages | grep usb
[03:43] <ubotu> gcc-3.4: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 3.4.4-6ubuntu8 (breezy), Packaged size: 473 kB, Installed size: 4520 kB
[03:43] <GameOver> anyone know how to fix the problem with streaming wmv and real audio in firefox with MPLAYER?
[03:43] <cafuego> There we go.
[03:44] <cafuego> !info gcc-4.0 dapper
[03:44] <mwe> GameOver: what problem?
[03:44] <QMario> Hendikins|Work, version 1.0.7
[03:44] <amonkey> unkn0wn2u, grep usb: nothing but without the grep, lots of failed cdrom closures (which is technically what -t does)
[03:44] <ubotu> gcc-4.0: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 4.0.2-6ubuntu1 (dapper), Packaged size: 498 kB, Installed size: 1276 kB
[03:44] <GameOver> if i go to a site with streaming wmv video it will load play for one second
[03:44] <mwe> GameOver: you need the codecs of course
[03:44] <GameOver> and do nothign else
[03:44] <cafuego> !info gcc-4.0 hoary
[03:44] <GameOver> i have them
[03:44] <QMario> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20051010 Firefox/1.0.4 (Ubuntu package 1.0.7)
[03:44] <cafuego> !info gcc hoary
[03:44] <Hendikins|Work> QMario: I'm saying *I* do not have a release version of Firefox on this computer to check that page with.
[03:44] <ubotu> gcc: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is standard. Version: 4:3.3.5-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[03:44] <ubotu> gcc-4.0: (The GNU C compiler), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 4.0-0pre6ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 458 kB, Installed size: 3116 kB
[03:44] <amonkey> unkn0wn2u, nm, misread. those are errors from when i tried to eject after i injected it
[03:44] <Hendikins|Work> (that, and I'm on an x86_64 SuSE 9.3 box...)
[03:44] <mwe> GameOver: and mplayer plugin works but not with wmv?
[03:45] <GameOver> streaming it doesnt
[03:45] <QMario> Hendikins|Work, so sorry, I assumed you meant that I didn't provide you with enough information. :(
[03:45] <Eugman> how do I deal with a broken package?
[03:45] <GameOver> and doesnt do anythign with real player
[03:45] <bimberi> cafuego: great! thanks again
[03:45] <oclet> yoh
[03:45] <cafuego> no worries
[03:45] <GameOver> will show that mplayer loads for realplayer but doe snothing
[03:45] <cafuego> just caching warty/hoary/breezy/dapper info :-)
[03:45] <oclet> i'm trying to setup dhcpd
[03:45] <oclet> so that it routes
[03:45] <oclet> internet from my wireless
[03:45] <oclet> through my hub to a desktop
[03:45] <unkn0wn2u> amonkey, unplug it and plug it back in (usb)
[03:45] <mwe> GameOver: it works for me. how did you install codecs?
[03:46] <GameOver> with automatrix
[03:46] <oclet> this is becoming more of a hassle than i thought it would be
[03:46] <oclet> my desktop is getting an ip
[03:46] <Hendikins|Work> QMario: Does it misbehave with Firefox 1.5 Official?
[03:46] <oclet> but it isnt getting online
[03:47] <oclet> any ideas?
[03:47] <amonkey> unkn0wn2u, that does work, but i'm trying to do this soft side
[03:47] <GameOver> if it isnt streaming it will work, for the wmv... i just dont know what the problem is
[03:47] <unkn0wn2u> amonkey, rmmod usb-storage
[03:47] <unkn0wn2u> insmod usb-storage
[03:48] <QMario> Hendikins|Work, the Mozilla Suite also has that problem, and yes it does misbehave with Firefox 1.5 Official.
[03:48] <unkn0wn2u> amonkey, that should take the f**ker out , or modprobe -r usb-storage modprobe usb-storage
[03:48] <Hendikins|Work> QMario: Hrm. I'll throw it at CVS HEAD.
[03:49] <Nameeater_> I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers but it says I need gcc 3.4 and breezy has 4, so i have downloaded gcc 3.4 but I need to have it set as the gcc to use, how do I do that?
[03:49] <QMario> There are a number of ads on this page(3), and they all run Flash, so that might be part of the problem... :-/
[03:49] <GameOver> mwe?
[03:49] <edoardo> anyone in here familiar with ivman or gnome-volume-manager?
[03:49] <Nameeater_> some one told me before, but i can't recall what to set, I tried export GCC=gcc-3.4 but it didn't cut it
[03:49] <unkn0wn2u> QMario, xoveroffice does flash
[03:49] <mwe> GameOver: I don't think I can help here
[03:50] <Hendikins|Work> QMario: I'd pin it on Flash
[03:50] <QMario> What is xoveroffice?
[03:50] <unkn0wn2u> crossoveroffice its like $15
[03:50] <Hendikins|Work> unkn0wn2u: I don't advise using cxoffice for Flash, except on x86_64 systems.
[03:50] <QMario> But wait, I have Flash blocker on this version of Firefox, but it keeps freezing my computer.
[03:50] <mwe> QMario: a commercial wine clone that runs some ms office progs and stuff in linux
[03:50] <GameOver> ok, np.... let me ask u this then does kubuntu install ati mobile drivers when it first sets up the computer
[03:50] <oclet> ?
[03:50] <amonkey> unkn0wn2u, that looked like a good idea but now it's just not recognzing it nomater what
[03:50] <Eugman> E: phpmyadmin: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127
[03:51] <unkn0wn2u> amonkey, modprobe usb-storage
[03:51] <Hendikins|Work> QMario: What extensions have you got? Can you pastebin a list for me? (or just type it if it is short)
[03:51] <GameOver> if not how do i go about installing ati radeon mobility 7500 drivers
[03:51] <amonkey> unkn0wn2u, did that, no dice
[03:52] <amonkey> unkn0wn2u, ipod may have gotten pissed, it's not showing that it's getting power from the pc
[03:52] <Eugman> !broken
[03:52] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Eugman
[03:52] <unkn0wn2u> amonkey, you removed the kernel drivers for usb
[03:52] <mwe> GameOver: ati mobile drivers? not the binary driver from ati.com which does 3d
[03:52] <QMario> DOM Inspector 1.8, Talkback 1.5, Adblock 0.5.2.039, MediaPlayerConnectivity 0.4.7.1, Flashblock 1.5, and Session Saver 0.2.
[03:52] <mwe> GameOver: it's quite easy to set up though
[03:52] <GameOver> well im on a ibm thinkpad laptop... thats the name of the graphix card i have
[03:52] <amonkey> unkn0wn2u, lsmod shows it loaded
[03:52] <GameOver> sure, can u tell me how
[03:52] <unkn0wn2u> amonkey, you need usb-storage and more
[03:53] <mwe> !tell GameOver about ati
[03:53] <Hendikins|Work> QMario: Scrap Adblock and Flashblock
[03:53] <unkn0wn2u> modprobe -r removes usb-storage and its dependants
[03:53] <mwe> GameOver: read what ubotu /msg'ed you
[03:53] <Hendikins|Work> QMario: Adblock Plus and Noscript are a far better combination.
[03:53] <unkn0wn2u> amonkey, I forgot what else it removed
[03:53] <amonkey> unkn0wn2u, ... that doesn't sound good
[03:53] <amonkey> unkn0wn2u, suggestions?
[03:54] <GameOver> hey mwe... my card is 7500.. this says for cards over 9500
[03:54] <unkn0wn2u> amonkey, reboot and then lsmod to show you what you need to modprobe back in , or wait while i ssh into my other computer for it
[03:54] <lordmundi> looking for some install help
[03:54] <mwe> GameOver: oh I missed that sorry
[03:54] <amonkey> unkn0wn2u, i'll take wait for 200 alex
[03:54] <Hendikins|Work> QMario: Adblock is known to cause hangs and memory leaks in some versions of Firefox (including 1.5), and noscript gives you Javascript and Flash blocking in one handy package.
[03:55] <QMario> Hendikins|Work, I cannot find Adblock Plus.
[03:55] <QMario> Hendikins|Work, okay.
[03:55] <unkn0wn2u> amonkey, do you have scsi_mod
[03:55] <mwe> GameOver: In that case I don't know about 3d but it will provide at least 2d for you
[03:55] <GameOver> its ok... am i still going to be able to make it work
[03:55] <GameOver> oh
[03:55] <GameOver> :(
[03:55] <amonkey> unkn0wn2u, yes
[03:56] <Eugman> can anyone help me? I can't uninstall phpmyadmin.
[03:56] <unkn0wn2u> amonkey, how about usbcore
[03:56] <Hendikins|Work> QMario: Adblock Plus is available at http://bene.sitesled.com/adblock.htm
[03:56] <GameOver> another question... whenever i play mp3s.. it seems that if i play it slightly loud it sounds staticy
[03:56] <GameOver> like its being played too loud..  but its reall ynot
[03:56] <amonkey> unkn0wn2u, cheeck
[03:57] <alekandr> Should see the smile on my face :] 
[03:57] <GameOver> anyone have an idea?
[03:57] <mwe> GameOver: there are some drivers listed at ati.com. I don't know if one of them will work with your card.
[03:58] <alekandr> I found webcams on the ubuntu wiki, and checked the supported models for easycam ( does all the installing )
[03:58] <unkn0wn2u> huh i dont know
[03:58] <alekandr> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05a9:8519 OmniVision Technologies, Inc
[03:58] <alekandr> lsusb output
[03:58] <Hendikins|Work> That's one thing I've got it easy with
[03:58] <Hendikins|Work> I use my TV tuner instead of a USB webcam
[03:58] <alekandr> http://blognux.free.fr/Liste/ov519 // ID 05a9:8519 OmniVision Technologies, Inc.
[03:58] <alekandr> ID 05a9:4519 OmniVision Technologies, Inc.
[03:58] <alekandr> supported models :] 
[03:58] <amonkey> unkn0wn2u, i'll just restart
[03:58] <Hendikins|Work> Bog standard bt878 card, absolutely no trouble whatsoever (-:
[03:59] <unkn0wn2u> amonkey, it worked for me
[03:59] <mwe> GameOver: did the wiki say 9500 or higher?
[03:59] <GameOver> yeah
[03:59] <QMario> Hendikins|Work, thank you for your assistance!!! :)
[03:59] <mwe> GameOver: that needs to be fixed. it's 8500 or higher
[03:59] <Ophiocus> how can i remove an entry from the ndis drivers entry?
[03:59] <GameOver> oh
[03:59] <GameOver> well still im at 7500
[03:59] <GameOver> so should i not take the chance
[03:59] <Hendikins|Work> QMario: Is it being better behaved?
[04:00] <GameOver> last time i tried something i f'd up linux and had to reinstall
[04:00] <B_166-ER-X> at install... can we put the /home partition in Fat32 ?
[04:00] <lordmundi> looking for some install help
[04:00] <Hendikins|Work> After all, if you're still having the problem after those suggestions, I haven't been of any assistance.
[04:00] <unkn0wn2u> GameOver, vesa
[04:00] <Hendikins|Work> lordmundi: The best way to get an answer is to ask a question :-)
[04:00] <lordmundi> haha.. k :)
[04:00] <mwe> GameOver: I don't think it would be that bad, but I don't think the driver will work either
[04:00] <GameOver> vesa?
[04:00] <GameOver> will one ever be released?
[04:01] <unkn0wn2u> what
[04:01] <GameOver> whats vesa unknown
[04:01] <lordmundi> well, when I start the install of edubuntu, it cranks up and begins detecting hardware to locate cdroms... and then it loads various modules... but it hangs on "loading ide_cd" module.  I don't know hot to get it around this...
[04:02] <unkn0wn2u> that is what I had to use on my radeon 7500 the vesa drivers you might as well have a 20 year old video card in there
[04:02] <cafuego> There we go. Even !dstats now works again.
[04:02] <QMario> Hendikins|Work, yes, but not the Ubuntu version. :)
[04:02] <GameOver> so just forget about it then unknown?
[04:02] <concept10> anyone know what package to use for GTK2 VLC?
[04:02] <Hendikins|Work> QMario: So... what remains broken?
[04:02] <lordmundi> i looked through the boot options, and tried acpi=off... also noapic and nolapic... but still locks up on "loading ide_cd"
[04:03] <unkn0wn2u> lordmundi, mv the kernel binaries like ide_cd to a different directory
[04:03] <QMario> Hendikins|Work, the Ubuntu version still temporarily freezes my computer, but the official release is just dandy.
[04:03] <GameOver> and when kubuntu is installed does it fat32 the HD, or NTFS it
[04:03] <michael> Where can I dload Jon Sevy's AirPort/RC-1000 configurator?? - can't find a link that isn't broken
[04:03] <lordmundi> ???  but I'm installing from a cd... ?
[04:03] <mwe> lordmundi: boot from a live cd, mount the partition and blacklist the module and then try to figure out why it hangs at that point
[04:03] <cafuego> !es
[04:03] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:04] <Hendikins|Work> QMario: Hrm. Interesting. Is it any better than it was with the older extensions, or just as bad?
[04:04] <unkn0wn2u> lordmundi, sorry
[04:04] <Hendikins|Work> I've heard that the Ubuntu-supplied Firefox is rather slow in general.
[04:04] <QMario> Hendikins|Work, just as bad.
[04:04] <unkn0wn2u> firefox sucks
[04:05] <Hendikins|Work> unkn0wn2u: On what grounds?
[04:05] <unkn0wn2u> I'm still using mozilla because it uses half the memory
[04:05] <unkn0wn2u> firefox uses 128meg wtf is that
[04:05] <Hendikins|Work> I use the suite myself, but I would like actual solid criticism of the product.
[04:05] <mwe> um it doesn't here
[04:05] <GameOver> anyone know if kubuntu formats the hd in fat32 or ntfs?
[04:05] <cafuego> Why does firefox suck just coz you're too tight to invest in ram? ;-)
[04:05] <narles> how can i save email attachments to my desktop
[04:05] <Hendikins|Work> or because you won't set a fixed RAM cache size?
[04:06] <mwe> and most of it is cached memory and will be freed if anything needs it
[04:06] <Hendikins|Work> unkn0wn2u: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=354828 may be of interest to you.
[04:06] <cafuego> Thats aid, my firefox uses 19Mb.
[04:06] <unkn0wn2u> cafuego, it doesn't offer anything mozilla doesn't have
[04:06] <narles> how can i save email attachments to my desktop using lotus domino web access email
[04:06] <cafuego> unkn0wn2u: It's a LOT faster for me.
[04:06] <Hendikins|Work> unkn0wn2u: Actually, toolkit *does* offer stuff that xpfe doesn't. Why do you think the plan is to move SeaMonkey to toolkit?
[04:06] <Eugman> unk0wn2u: what about the extensiblity?
[04:06] <Hendikins|Work> unkn0wn2u: and I *do* know what I'm talking about
[04:06] <GameOver> how come ubuntu hasnt released a firefox 1.5 and thunderbird 1.5 version ye t??
[04:07] <Hendikins|Work> GameOver: Major Gecko upgrade breaks stuff that depends on the existing 1.0.7
[04:07] <cafuego> There is no Thunderbird 1.5
[04:07] <Hendikins|Work> Backporting would be non-trivial because of dependencies.
[04:07] <holycow> anyone here ever run into a breezy install where the hardware detection section cannot insmod ide module and hangs?
[04:07] <cafuego> And Firefox 1.5 is in Dapper. Breezy won't get it, because it only gets ecurity fixes.
[04:07] <holycow> just curious if this has been seen before
[04:07] <GameOver> so it will take some time... or we just wont see it released?
[04:07] <Eugman> E: phpmyadmin: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127 . ARGHHHHHHH
[04:08] <mwe> cafuego: 19Mb ?! is that vsz or rss?
[04:08] <tr011> how secure is to move a laptop desktop with brezee to dapper ?
[04:08] <cafuego> mwe: SHR
[04:08] <Hendikins|Work> GameOver: I doubt it will be backported. As I said, it would be non-trivial because of stuff depending on Gecko.
[04:08] <cafuego> 40Mb res
[04:08] <holycow> tr00nd, why don'tyou wait until its officially released?
[04:08] <mwe> ok
[04:08] <unkn0wn2u> what I'm saying is why use firefox , mozilla is fine and it is more stable in my opinion
[04:08] <GameOver> i see
[04:09] <GameOver> hendikins... do u know if when kubuntu is installed... that the HD is formated in fat32 or ntfs
[04:09] <holycow> GameOver, why the hell would anyoen spend time backporting firefox when dapper is 3 months away?
[04:09] <bob832> how can i zip a directory from the command line?
[04:09] <Hendikins|Work> unkn0wn2u: Toolkit provides some benefits in both extensibility and usability. There is also the argument not having code you don't need floating around.
[04:09] <unkn0wn2u> tar -czvf
[04:09] <tr011> dapper
[04:09] <navarone> evening folks
[04:09] <holycow> GameOver, neither, linux doesn't use any ms file systems by default
[04:09] <tr011> !dapper
[04:09] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[04:09] <GameOver> oh i wasnt sure
[04:09] <holycow> GameOver, moreover, it cannot use ntfs, that is proprietary
[04:10] <holycow> GameOver, no one in their right mind would use fat32
[04:10] <GameOver> thanks
[04:10] <GameOver> no i know
[04:10] <Hendikins|Work> unkn0wn2u: and I don't use Firefox myself, but as I said, give me solid criticism and I'll wear it. You're not providing any.
[04:10] <GameOver> just had to ask
[04:10] <Niko-formerlyEag> where does mplayer keep its codecs in ubuntu?  it doesn't seem to have a standard directory like when you install from source
[04:10] <holycow> no worries, just rounding out your knowledge :)
[04:10] <mondi> anyone here using dapper and updated just now?
[04:10] <tr011> deam! 4 months!!!! i will need to wait :P there is nothing in ubuntu like 'debian sid' ?
[04:10] <unkn0wn2u> Hendikins, well if you don't use it then you already know
[04:10] <mondi> just wanna ask if the updates didn't do any damage..
[04:10] <GameOver> does anyone know if staroffice is that much better than openoffice?
[04:11] <George__> i fooked, i transfered my ODT document to another pc and it's corrupted. WHere I have 2 go to get some help?
[04:11] <George__> I feel like saying "f" to openoffice right now
[04:11] <Hendikins|Work> unkn0wn2u: My reasons for not using Firefox have nothing to do with anything that has been brought up in this channel.
[04:11] <holycow> mondi, what the heck do you mean damage? you are installing alpha software, why would you not expect complete loss of data?
[04:11] <tr011> GameOver, is more Microsoft Office style
[04:11] <mondi> I meant if it didn't crash the system or something
[04:11] <michael> What can I use to connect to my airport basestation??
[04:11] <GameOver> staroffice?
[04:11] <Munchkinguy> Hello
[04:12] <michael> ne1, please
[04:12] <George__> HELLPPP
[04:12] <George__> Please
[04:12] <mwe> George__: don't be lame
[04:12] <Hendikins|Work> unkn0wn2u: I am also quite high up in the IRC and forum support chains for Firefox... and that doesn't happen without knowing the ropes.
[04:12] <holycow> George__, there is no difference, star office just comes with spelling and grammar dictionaries and some other proprietary components
[04:12] <RedRose> what is the name of an IRC deamon?
[04:12] <unkn0wn2u> Hendikins, well you must have a reason for not using it and I have a lot of reasons mainly I don't like flaky code
[04:12] <RedRose> that you can use with ubuntu?
[04:12] <unkn0wn2u> ey>
[04:13] <GameOver> so it woudlnt be worth it then?... just stick with open office?
[04:13] <cafuego> RedRose: apt-cache search ircd
[04:13] <tr011> yes... well the lastest version of open office is pretty much like ms office... but.. who cares about that, open office simply works.. and that's fine for me,
[04:13] <Hendikins|Work> unkn0wn2u: My main reason is that the suite suits me (and I've used it for over 6 years now). No more, no less.
[04:13] <tamale> I just tried creating a my raid5 array in mdadm and every device set off the error message "Device or resource busy"
[04:13] <George__> WORKS!
[04:13] <tamale> how can i get around this
[04:13] <jrod> hello
[04:13] <George__> IT CORRUPTED 20 OF MY 40 FREAKEN DOCUMENTS
[04:13] <holycow> George__, no chances are you corrupted them
[04:13] <unkn0wn2u> Hendikins, is mozilla-mail gone now?
[04:13] <holycow> primarily by not keeping backups ....
[04:14] <George__> lol me!
[04:14] <George__> holycow how is that possible
[04:14] <George__> THIS IS MY PAPERS FOR MY FREAKEN school teaching etc
[04:14] <Hendikins|Work> unkn0wn2u: SeaMonkey mail hasn't gone anywhere. I use it on a daily basis at work.
[04:14] <Hendikins|Work> (and home)
[04:14] <holycow> George__, is it worth it? why would you ask that question? if its worth it for you depends on whether you feel the components are worth paying for
[04:14] <George__> ahahha me ruin it HOW!
[04:14] <dooglus> what is the name of the process which draws the gnome menus "applications", "places" and "system"?
[04:14] <George__> what? WORTH IT, THESE FILES MEAN A LOT
[04:14] <whatwhat> i new to unbunto this is cool :p apears to be more easy then they say about linux
[04:14] <unkn0wn2u> Hendikins, what repo is that in?
[04:15] <MonkeyLinux> whatwhat ubuntu is linux
[04:15] <holycow> George__, well based on your questions here, you are neither prepared to handle software nor inclined to learn how.  you just switched to linux without keeping backups?
[04:15] <whatwhat> no need to configure the internet and everything
[04:15] <Hendikins|Work> unkn0wn2u: I would have no idea. I don't use Ubuntu. I'm here to assist with Firefox support/docs.
[04:15] <MonkeyLinux> lol atleast a distro of it, with many skilled hands to make it more automated than most distro's
[04:15] <whatwhat> MonkeuLinux :p
[04:15] <George__> what?
[04:15] <Xenguy> hi - how can I find out the module name for my sound card?
[04:16] <colet> Hi all - I don't suppose anybody here has attached a Coraid AOE box to there Ubuntu system before?
[04:16] <whatwhat> how can i copy text in xchat ? :\
[04:16] <tamale> hello, I just tried creating a my raid5 array in mdadm and every device set off the error message "Device or resource busy"
[04:16] <tamale> how can i get around this
[04:16] <holycow> whatwhat, just highlight then go to new document and middle click
[04:16] <Hendikins|Work> whatwhat: selecting and middle-clicking in target app works well
[04:16] <Munchkinguy> What are the system requirements for Ubuntu?
[04:16] <whatwhat> ok i will try
[04:16] <holycow> Munchkinguy, anything over a p400 and a supported chipset/vidcard/components
[04:17] <navarone> whatwhat you can highlight and ctrl+c
[04:17] <whatwhat> it works thanks :p
[04:17] <MonkeyLinux> holycow now thats funny
[04:17] <George__> help!
[04:17] <George__> what is this gay aspci or wtf it is!
[04:17] <George__> ASCII... why it happen?!
[04:17] <holycow> MonkeyLinux, what is funny?
[04:17] <psusi> hell, you can run ubuntu on a 486SX/25 if you want... just shut off the gui ;)
[04:17] <Hendikins|Work> George__: It would help if you could ask us a question of some sort.
[04:17] <cvt|kde> anyone have a flawless media playing setup?
[04:17] <cafuego> Munchkinguy: P2/300+, 64+MB ram for X (lighteight desktop managers), less for just command line.
[04:18] <Hendikins|Work> cvt|kde: CrossOver works well... ;-)
[04:18] <MonkeyLinux> I had ubuntu working fine on a 486/DX2
[04:18] <holycow> George__, if i may recommend that you save your self the hassle and just go back to windows, your life will be a lot easier
[04:18] <cafuego> Munchkinguy: For Gnome, probably a 500+MHz box with 256Mb ram *absolute minimum*
[04:18] <George__> WEll My Openoffice FILE got CORRUPTED I'm on XP RIght now cant open!
[04:18] <MonkeyLinux> with minimal gui of course
[04:18] <jnymo> whats that auto sources.list generator sight for ubuntu?
[04:18] <jnymo> s/sight/site
[04:18] <holycow> MonkeyLinux, *cough* bullshit *cough* .... and i've run ubuntu on some low end hardware
[04:18] <Munchkinguy> cafuego: thank you
[04:18] <George__> holycow: it doesn't matter shit to me about what I'm on
[04:18] <George__> i can't open the file why?
[04:18] <navarone> George do you use ubuntu or open office in windows?
[04:19] <George__> OPen office
[04:19] <holycow> a 486/dx2 cant even handle more than 32 megs of ram  ... if you mean server thats not even a consideration
[04:19] <Hendikins|Work> George__: Would it kill you to be polite?
[04:19] <George__> KOASJdizxnc
[04:19] <George__> sorrry
[04:19] <MonkeyLinux> cought whatever u want. hell you can run ubuntu on ur toaster if your up to the task
[04:19] <colet> holy_cow:  Sure it can - I used to have one running with a whopping 64MB.  8)
[04:19] <navarone> George this channel does not support windows based problem George
[04:19] <George__> IT ANIT WINDOWS
[04:19] <George__> it's OPENoffice and UBUNTU
[04:20] <jnymo> no yelling allowed
[04:20] <holycow> colet, how long did it take you to find that many simms?
[04:20] <holycow> :)
[04:20] <cafuego> George__: Boot ubuntu, try to open file file.
[04:20] <George__> I DO NOT get what the heck happend
[04:20] <George__> i cant
[04:20] <cvt|kde> what's a CrossOver?
[04:20] <navarone> George has it affected your cap lock as well...?
[04:20] <George__> O ya
[04:20] <cafuego> George__: Can't what? Boot Ubuntu?
[04:20] <George__> anyway, yah i cant open it for crap
[04:20] <Hendikins|Work> cvt|kde: Commercial wine distro. Allows you to use Win32 browser plugins.
[04:20] <MonkeyLinux> he cant open a document
[04:20] <George__> Openoffice f'ked me!
[04:20] <Kr0ntab> wut up peoples
[04:20] <George__> waaa
[04:20] <colet> It only took 4 simms - just bought 'em at a local computer show.  Of course, this was about 8-9 years ago too.  *Only* cost me about $80 per simm.  ;)
[04:20] <psusi> George__, in ubuntu or windows?
[04:21] <George__> both
[04:21] <holycow> colet,  :)
[04:21] <psusi> George__, what do you mean you can't open it?  what happens?
[04:21] <cafuego> George__: Well, unzip the document, see what's in there.
[04:21] <George__> ASPCII or something filter
[04:21] <Hendikins|Work> cvt|kde: mplayer seems to be the preferred choice around here, I don't have much of a chance to play with streaming stuff.
[04:21] <George__> it's a odt document
[04:21] <MonkeyLinux> he cant open a document created in winblows in ubuntu is what I gather
[04:21] <cafuego> George__: copy foo.odt foo.zip; double click foo.zip
[04:21] <George__> ASCII FILTER is the thing that pops up
[04:21] <George__> that doesnt work either
[04:21] <colet> I don't suppose anybody here has attached a Coraid AOE box to their Ubuntu system before?
[04:22] <colet> I'm trying to get pvcreate to recognize the drive and it won't see it.
[04:22] <john_> How do I change every file in a directory to upper-case?
[04:22] <psusi> George__, did you save this file from open office in ubuntu?
[04:22] <George__> what i do with ziP?
[04:22] <George__> yes
[04:22] <George__> ys
[04:22] <psusi> George__, double click on the .zip
[04:22] <George__> yes
[04:22] <insomnd> any ideas on how i can increase column size in netstat? the IP6 address doesnt fit
[04:22] <cvt|kde> Hendikins, i play a ridiculous amount of videos and audio files. it takes vlc, xine, totem, mplayer, etc. to play all the file types i have
[04:22] <cvt|kde> but i get lots of errors and failures
[04:22] <navarone> George perhaps you need to add a filter of being capable of saving filetype? Or maybe you need to select different one?
[04:22] <George__> ! EPfh EPH  is what i get on document! and I click invalid arch
[04:23] <George__> what?
[04:23] <George__> it's odt
[04:23] <Hendikins|Work> cvt|kde: Maybe CrossOver would be a worthwhile investment then? I don't know.
[04:23] <whatwhat> ubunto run divx movies ?
[04:23] <holycow> George__, odt is just a zip file dude
[04:23] <George__> odt?
[04:23] <holycow> with lots of xml files in it
[04:23] <cafuego> odt is a zipped XML file.
[04:23] <George__> ODT = ZIP!?
[04:23] <holycow> correcto
[04:23] <cvt|kde> Hendikins|Work, i'll look into it for sure thx
[04:23] <George__> ok... so how i get my XML file?
[04:23] <cafuego> Like I said, unzip it.
[04:23] <psusi> George__, we've been telling you...rename it to a .zip and unzip it
[04:23] <holycow> unzip it, open it up with an unzip file
[04:23] <George__> I cant
[04:24] <holycow> program
[04:24] <George__> Invalid arch
[04:24] <Hendikins|Work> cvt|kde: It isn't perfect either, but you may have more luck using the Win32 apps/plugins.
[04:24] <JarG0n> butcherbird> iKernel> Thank you for your help.  Gnome is loaded (and more importantly VISIBLE!).
[04:24] <cafuego> George__: Maybe you can try being  abit more useful with you rerror reports.
[04:24] <George__> I CANT, is what i been saing
[04:24] <George__> ok
[04:24] <holycow> George__, we know, your screwed
[04:24] <George__> i click it , and says invalid blah bla
[04:24] <holycow> go back to windows and bug those guys
[04:24] <cafuego> 'mv' never says "Invalid arch".
[04:24] <oclet> so um
[04:24] <jnymo> source-o-matic! that's it.. thank god
[04:24] <oclet> anyone wanna help me w/ my dhcpd issues?
[04:24] <oclet> :)
[04:24] <George__> the archive is damaged
[04:25] <holycow> oclet, just ask
[04:25] <oclet> already did
[04:25] <George__> umm the archieve is either in unkown format or damaged.
[04:25] <George__> Linux says it cant be opened
[04:25] <cafuego> George__: Well, that would be why1) OOo can't open it and 2) Zip can't open it.
[04:25] <sethk> or both
[04:25] <psusi> George__, what does "file foo.odt" say?
[04:25] <oclet> 18:45 < oclet> i'm trying to setup dhcpd
[04:25] <oclet> 18:45 < oclet> so that it routes
[04:25] <oclet> 18:45 < oclet> internet from my wireless
[04:25] <oclet> 18:45 < oclet> through my hub to a desktop
[04:25] <oclet> 18:46 < oclet> this is becoming more of a hassle than i thought it would be
[04:25] <oclet> 18:46 < oclet> my desktop is getting an ip
[04:25] <oclet> 18:46 < oclet> but it isnt getting online
[04:25] <oclet> the desktop is windows
[04:25] <cafuego> oclet: Stop spamming!
[04:25] <thedcm> omg
[04:25] <George__> i anit on linux :(
[04:25] <cafuego> !ops
[04:25] <thedcm> omg
[04:25] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[04:25] <thedcm> omg
[04:25] <George__> ah crack
[04:25] <George__> why does god have to be so mean 2 me
[04:25] <john_> How can I change the title of every file in a directory to upper-case?
[04:25] <thedcm> wat
[04:25] <Amaranth> Yes?
[04:25] <thedcm> wat
[04:25] <Munchkinguy> One more question...
[04:25] <oclet> so
[04:26] <Hendikins|Work> oclet: Please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting in future - people get annoyed by large amounts of text being dumped in the channel.
[04:26] <thedcm> no u r
[04:26] <holycow> George__, then you are in the wrong place, go ask somewhere else
[04:26] <ajmitch> oclet: never, ever do that again
[04:26] <johndarkhorse> oclet: use a pastebin next time
[04:26] <oclet> ok whatever
[04:26] <cafuego> Amaranth: oclet is pasting aliiitle bit too much
[04:26] <Munchkinguy> is there an Ubuntu live CD version that I can download?
[04:26] <thedcm> wat
[04:26] <oclet> can anyone help
[04:26] <oclet> with my problem?
[04:26] <thedcm> wat
[04:26] <George__> so it has nothing 2 do with Ubuntu at all
[04:26] <oclet> kinda
[04:26] <oclet> i'm using ubuntu
[04:26] <oclet> and its not working
[04:26] <holycow> Munchkinguy, indeed, check the website
[04:26] <psusi> Munchkinguy, yes, take a look at the download section on the web site
[04:26] <cafuego> George__: Soiunds like an OOo problem.
[04:26] <sethk> oclet, you have to ask a specific question
[04:26] <oclet> i did
[04:26] <Amaranth> oclet: is the computer getting an IP, gateway, and dns?
[04:26] <thedcm> wat
[04:27] <oclet> Amaranth: yes
[04:27] <oclet> well not dns
[04:27] <oclet> because the dns server is automatically obtained from the isp
[04:27] <Amaranth> oclet: can you get to IP addresses?
[04:27] <thedcm> wat
[04:27] <oclet> no?
[04:27] <thedcm> wat
[04:27] <oclet> yes the desktop is getting an ip
[04:27] <MonkeyLinux> George__ nope just has something to do with you, its all your fault...lol just kidding, seriously check the web for OpenOffice support groups
[04:27] <thedcm> heh
[04:27] <oclet> but its just not getting online
[04:27] <whatwhat> how can i open divx movies in linux?
[04:27] <holycow> George__ so it has nothing 2 do with Ubuntu at all
[04:27] <holycow> * RocketRanch (n=RocketRa@pcp0012137671pcs  <-- awesome  now go ask someone who can actually help you
[04:27] <thedcm> wat
[04:27] <mwe> the dash is not needed with tar
[04:27] <Munchkinguy> excellent! Thanks a lot
[04:27] <thedcm> omg
[04:27] <Amaranth> oclet: can it get to http://64.233.187.99
[04:28] <oclet> the desktop?
[04:28] <thedcm> wat
[04:28] <oclet> lemme check
[04:28] <oclet> plz hold
[04:28] <thedcm> nO!
[04:28] <Amaranth> oclet: ok
[04:28] <navarone> ] 
[04:28] <oclet> Amaranth: no
[04:28] <oclet> i was testing it earlier by pinging www.cisco.com
[04:28] <Amaranth> oclet: can you ping the router?
[04:28] <thedcm> wat
[04:28] <George__> gosh
[04:28] <George__> is there anything i can try
[04:28] <George__> i need this file
[04:28] <oclet> Amaranth: my laptop is my router
[04:28] <Amaranth> oclet: if you don't have DNS cisco.com won't work, only IP addresses
[04:28] <oclet> in this case
[04:29] <Amaranth> oclet: can it ping the laptop?
[04:29] <thedcm> wat
[04:29] <oclet> yes
[04:29] <oclet> like i said
[04:29] <George__> what
[04:29] <oclet> let me re-explain
[04:29] <Amaranth> oclet: i dunno after that
[04:29] <oclet> i have cable internet, thats going into a wireless router, my laptop is running ubuntu and getting online w/out any problems
[04:29] <Amaranth> !info ip_masquerade
[04:29] <thedcm> omg
[04:29] <Amaranth> hrm
[04:30] <oclet> i'm trying to get my desktop (windows)
[04:30] <oclet> online through the network port
[04:30] <oclet> on my laptop
[04:30] <holycow> can someone kick thedcm ? i think its a bot
[04:30] <thedcm> wat
[04:30] <navarone> thecdm are you ok?
[04:30] <thedcm> wat
[04:30] <thedcm> lol yeah
[04:30] <MonkeyLinux> George__ we told you, check OpenOffice support groups
[04:30] <Amaranth> oclet: install the ipmasq package
[04:30] <George__> I am
[04:30] <George__> WHat GROUPS?!
[04:30] <thedcm> omg
[04:30] <George__> the forums?
[04:30] <thedcm> wat
[04:30] <George__> a irc channel?
[04:30] <thedcm> wat
[04:30] <oclet> Amaranth: hold on
[04:30] <holycow> secondly can someone kick George__ ?
[04:30] <thedcm> wat
[04:30] <mwe> oclet: why are you trying to make windows go through the laptop instead of the wireless router?
[04:30] <thedcm> wat
[04:30] <oclet> mwe: yes
[04:30] <Amaranth> thedcm: Are you a bot?
[04:30] <thedcm> wat
[04:30] <oclet> my desktop is getting an ip
[04:30] <thedcm> Amaranth: no.
[04:31] <holycow> it's not helpfull to the conversation
[04:31] <holycow> errr ... help
[04:31] <MonkeyLinux> go to http://www.openoffice.org/ or use google
[04:31] <oclet> so the dhcp is working
[04:31] <Amaranth> thedcm: say 'wat' one more time an i'll ban you
[04:31] <thedcm> nou
[04:31] <George__> i am
[04:31] <thedcm> xd yeah right
[04:31] <thedcm> prove it NIGGER
[04:31] <desrt> George__; hey man
[04:31] <George__> yes
[04:31] <desrt> George__; long time no see
[04:31] <oclet> i've used google to the extent of where i'm frustrated
[04:31] <desrt> George__; what's up?
[04:31] <jbroome> buh-bye
[04:31] <thedcm> wat
[04:31] <oclet> no?
[04:31] <thedcm> wat
[04:31] <thedcm> wat
[04:31] <thedcm> wat
[04:31] <thedcm> wat
[04:31] <thedcm> wat
[04:31] <thedcm> wat
[04:31] <George__> lol
[04:31] <thedcm> heh
[04:31] <thedcm> wat
[04:31] <thedcm> wat
[04:31] <thedcm> wat
[04:31] <thedcm> wat
[04:31] <michael> k, howto install degconf through term?
[04:31] <George__> umm
[04:31] <Amaranth> stupid lag
[04:32] <holycow> thanku
[04:32] <oclet> Amaranth: so ipmasq is just dhcp
[04:32] <MonkeyLinux> cause George__ since its an openoffice issue we cannot assist you here
[04:32] <oclet> am i wrong?
[04:32] <George__> where I GO!
[04:32] <oclet> 19:30 < mwe> oclet: why are you trying to make windows go through the laptop instead of the wireless router?
[04:32] <oclet> ^because it doesnt have a wireless card
[04:32] <oclet> in this room
[04:32] <MonkeyLinux> you'll have to use one of the support options at http://www.openoffice.org/ or google it
[04:32] <George__> they anit helping
[04:33] <Amaranth> George__: We can't help either.
[04:33] <oclet> ;(
[04:33] <George__> WHAT THE 2314
[04:33] <Sapentis> Nice to see you outside efnet.
[04:33] <George__> u put software in there but dont help
[04:33] <psusi> THANK GOD
[04:33] <MonkeyLinux> ty daniels
[04:33] <holycow> finally
[04:33] <holycow> thanku
[04:34] <Amaranth> daniels: heh, i was trying to at least point him in the right direction first
[04:34] <holycow> Amaranth, dude he didn't want to be pointed
[04:34] <oclet> Amaranth: any ideas?
[04:34] <psusi> he got WAY more patience than was deserved
[04:34] <holycow> you told him liek 12 times to go to openoffice.org
[04:34] <Amaranth> oclet: did you install ipmasq?
[04:34] <daniels> Amaranth: ahr.  i was asked about it in #ubuntu-devel, and when I saw WHAT THE 2314 I thought he was just a spammer.  heh.
[04:34] <MonkeyLinux> i swear some people keep getting dumber by the second.
[04:34] <frenchy> hey guys whenever i play a video in mplayer and go to full screen it just fills up the empty space with black space, anyone know how i can make it really fyll screen?
[04:34] <oclet> Amaranth: doesnt dhcpd do ip masquerading
[04:34] <whatwhat> can linux open divx movies to ?
[04:34] <Amaranth> no
[04:34] <oclet> oh
[04:34] <Amaranth> dhcpd assigns IP addresses
[04:34] <oclet> right
[04:35] <Amaranth> ipmasq sets up iptables to do simple web routing
[04:35] <oclet> so i mean its seeing my laptop but nothing beyond it
[04:35] <oclet> oh gotcha
[04:35] <oclet> i have iptables
[04:35] <MonkeyLinux> eigherway daniels we told him many times what his options were for support, we just wanted everything handed to him on a silver platter
[04:35] <john_> How can I change the title of every file in a directory to upper-case?
[04:35] <daniels> Amaranth: looks like you've got it all under control.  sorry for intruding into your territory, had no idea you were here.  enjoy.
[04:35] <Amaranth> oclet: everyone does :P
[04:35] <frenchy> anyone?
[04:35] <oclet> ok
[04:35] <Amaranth> oclet: ipmasq configures iptables
[04:36] <akant> hey all I have a question on compiling source
[04:36] <navarone> frenchy what vidcard are you using?
[04:36] <frenchy> geforce 6800 go on my laptop
[04:37] <Amaranth> !nvidia
[04:37] <ubotu> well, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:37] <Hendikins|Work> MonkeyLinux: There's few things in support that really piss me off. People who won't help themselves are one of them. People who invalidly criticise a product are another.
[04:37] <Amaranth> !info xorg-driver-nvidia
[04:37] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell akant about compile
[04:37] <frenchy> is this a vid card issue though?
[04:37] <navarone> frenchy possibly
[04:37] <billytwowilly> So I'm trying to stream video from my ubuntu file server to an xbox running xbox media center and a windows xp box. When I stream video on both I get jittery video and then the video halts.
[04:37] <billytwowilly> Any suggestions on tweaking samba for streaming?
[04:38] <frenchy> i have a 6800 on my pc and it doesnt do this
[04:38] <Hendikins|Work> MonkeyLinux: and I've been doing FOSS support since 2001.
[04:38] <holycow> billytwowilly, you shouldn't need samba to stream
[04:38] <Amaranth> billytwowilly: sounds like a bandwidth isue
[04:38] <Amaranth> err, issue
[04:38] <MonkeyLinux> nice
[04:38] <holycow> samba is only used for file sharing
[04:38] <billytwowilly> It's a 10/100 network.
[04:38] <billytwowilly> yah, it's sharing the drive that the windows xp box and xbmc are trying to play the video off of.
[04:38] <holycow> billytwowilly, are you trying to open up the file directly over samba via smbfs file sharing?
[04:39] <holycow> ah i see, *hmmm* not sure, i've always found those sorts of things flaky, i don't havy an
[04:39] <billytwowilly> holycow, pretty much. served on the ubuntu box and opened on the windows xp and xbmc box.
[04:39] <Amaranth> holycow: he is sharing a dir with the video in it on a windows network
[04:39] <holycow> any usefull tips for you unfortunately
[04:39] <Xnos> hi everybody
[04:40] <akant> I know this might sound basic, but I have a *.c file which I need to compile.  In the file are some referenced header files (fcntl.h, sys/ioctl.h, sys/stat.h, sys/types.h, stdlib.h, ..etc) are these from the kernel source?
[04:40] <ajmitch> akant: no, libc6-dev
[04:40] <ajmitch> akant: it's best to install build-essential
[04:41] <holycow> billytwowilly, additionally that is a very specific samba question, you ought to look for samba gurus out there for that particular issue
[04:41] <billytwowilly> I also posted in #samba;)
[04:41] <billytwowilly> err, messaged.
[04:41] <holycow> kida quite eh? :)
[04:41] <Xnos> someone knows a tool for join mpeg files
[04:41] <Xnos> to one
[04:42] <nter> you can use cat to join mpg
[04:43] <Xnos> ok thanks nter
[04:43] <nter> xnos: try cat file1.mpg file2.mpg >new.mpg but it won't work of avis
[04:43] <paulproteus> nter: mplayer might be able to do it.
[04:43] <paulproteus> Mplayer can do nearly everything....
[04:44] <runxctry> can you get the mplayer video window to stay-onn-top?
[04:44] <nter> probably can I was able to join mpegs that way but it doesn't work for .avi and .wmv
[04:44] <runxctry> so i can watch a movie while i am working??
[04:44] <akant> thank you again
[04:44] <runxctry> (sorry off topic)
[04:44] <holycow> runedude, right click on the window thingy and select on top
[04:45] <holycow> runxctry, yeah you can run lots of stuff simultaneously for the most part
[04:45] <oclet> Amaranth: sorry to be annoying but do u know where to find a good (up to date) doc on ipmasq
[04:45] <oclet> i cant find any that arent for old kernels
[04:45] <oclet> and such
[04:45] <Amaranth> oclet: oh, whoops
[04:46] <Sapentis> oclet, do you go to EFnet?
[04:46] <Amaranth> oclet: you'll have to do a lot of reading on iptables then
[04:46] <Amaranth> i could have sworn ipmasq setup iptables
[04:46] <oclet> Sapentis: yeh
[04:46] <Sapentis> We've met previously then.
[04:46] <Sapentis> :)
[04:47] <oclet> what channels
[04:47] <Sapentis> #!phrack, #phrack.
[04:48] <vircuser> i need help
[04:48] <oclet> werd
[04:48] <iKernel> vircuser: Tip: Ask your question.
[04:48] <vircuser> ikernel thanks i'm typing
[04:48] <ilba7r> two days not trying to set dmix any ideas
[04:48] <jamie> hey, I am new to Ubuntu, I have used gentoo for years, and at one point used Debian. I have always used Alsa, however the install defaulted to enlightenment sound demon which is better
[04:49] <runxctry> we're talking about "mplayer osx 2" right
[04:49] <runxctry> Copyright 2002-2003 Jan Volf, GUI elements created and binaries compiled by Jan Devera.
[04:49] <iKernel> runxctry: This is #ubuntu, not ##mac.
[04:49] <akant> would the gentleman who just msged me in regard to the build package please send me the name again... I lost your name and the package name when irc prg quit ;) lol
[04:50] <poningru> jamie: depends upon what you prefer
[04:50] <poningru> jamie: you can change it
[04:50] <iKernel> jamie: And?
[04:50] <poningru> system->preference->multimedia selecter
[04:51] <jamie> poningru, what advantages are there one to the other. any info on it. Tks but I know how to change, just wondering about benefits
[04:51] <runxctry> oh crap
[04:51] <akant> was that package called build essentials?
[04:51] <runxctry> sorry, i'm installing both
[04:51] <akant> :D
[04:51] <runxctry> haha
[04:51] <poningru> jamie: I think one of them doesnt allow playing of more than two sounds or something
[04:51] <poningru> err more than sound sources
[04:52] <timfrost> akant, build-essential
[04:52] <iKernel> jamie: Esd lets multiple apps play sound at once.
[04:52] <jamie> poningru, I remember something about firefox issues, sounds screwing up, just dont remember which
[04:52] <jamie> iKernel, thank you
[04:52] <vircuser> ikernel, i loaded live cd ubuntu, i have sbc dsl, during install network device was noticed (i have a usb adapter for my hpna network) in my network tools - network devices it shows "loopback interface" but the configure button is shaded. now in the network setting it show modem connection - interface ppp0 not configured. i have a modem but not using it for dsl. hpna lets my 2nd and 3rd computer access modem/router combo from
[04:53] <alekandr> how do i open a filename.c program for use in term
[04:53] <alekandr> like to run it
[04:53] <alekandr> gcc filename.c ?
[04:53] <ilba7r> iKernel, i do not think so try opening two totem files
[04:53] <ilba7r> iKernel, it will not work with esd
[04:53] <iKernel> ilba7r: sif
[04:54] <ilba7r> iKernel, explain sif do not underst abbrev
[04:54] <vircuser> ikernel look at message from vircuser
[04:54] <iKernel> vircuser: Dunno.
[04:54] <poningru> jamie: just test it out you know
[04:55] <edoardo> you guys? do you know anythin' about gnome-volume-manager? it won't see my usb key
[04:55] <edoardo> help?
[04:55] <poningru> jamie: just use one for couple of days, see if you like it, use the other one
[04:55] <vircuser> anyone using sbc dsl with ubuntu?
[04:55] <jamie> poningru, I will tks. Just have been so set in my ways with gentoo you know
[04:55] <DShepherd> alekandr: vi filename.c maybe
[04:56] <alekandr> that opens it for editing
[04:56] <runxctry> vircuser -- yes, but i have a router providing routing
[04:56] <poningru> jamie: true
[04:56] <runxctry> no ppoe
[04:56] <bob832> edoardo:  i have a similar problem with my volume key. . . not sure how to fix it though
[04:56] <iKernel> ppp0 is adsl gateway interface vircuser.
[04:56] <iKernel> so that would be what you want.
[04:56] <holycow> edoardo, check wiki.ubuntu.org ... that is a know problem with breezy.  there are some solutions available on some threads potentially but the general rule of thumb on the issue is wait for dapper, its getting fixed there
[04:56] <edoardo> wuteva
[04:57] <edoardo> holy_cow, oh really?
[04:57] <poningru> alekandr: its ./foobar.c
[04:57] <vircuser> how can i configure it ikernel
[04:57] <holycow> really
[04:57] <timfrost> alekandr, gcc -o binary-name filename.c
[04:57] <iKernel> vircuser: Try installing ubuntu instead of running it off the live cd (may take a while to install).
[04:57] <alekandr> yeah, i did that timfrost , thanks app built
[04:57] <alekandr> poningru: only if you chmod a+x
[04:58] <poningru> alekandr: yeah ofcourse
[04:58] <poningru> you dont want to do that?
[04:58] <vircuser> ikernel thanks, r u saying the install feature is better than the live?
[04:58] <iKernel> vircuser: Depends. Live feature is purely for testing.
[04:59] <iKernel> vircuser: And live feature is definatly slower.
[04:59] <edoardo> holy_cow, can't find anythin' : (
[04:59] <edoardo> : )
[04:59] <alekandr> how do i un 'modprobe'
[04:59] <Hentai^XPwork> Hello, is unix permissions the only thing ubuntu uses for permissions on files and directorys?
[04:59] <alekandr> something
[04:59] <vircuser> i was wondering why it was so slow i was just thinking man should i leave xp for this?
[04:59] <iKernel> alekandr: Terminal, of course!
[04:59] <alekandr> yeah
[04:59] <iKernel> alekandr: sudo -s, type in your password
[05:00] <alekandr> ok...
[05:00] <alekandr> im logged in as root
[05:00] <holycow> vircuser, you do understand that you are running the from a CD ROM?
[05:00] <holycow> right?
[05:00] <alekandr> man, i never log out :] 
[05:00] <alekandr> sup
[05:00] <iKernel> alekandr: Now, what driver did you want to load?
[05:00] <DShepherd> vircuser: you are running a live cd?
[05:00] <alekandr> modprobe ov511 iKernel
[05:00] <holycow> you do know that a 7200 rpm drive is oh 98% faster than cd rom?
[05:00] <holycow> vircuser, how can you not expect it to be slow?
[05:01] <cafuego> holycow: what cdrom?
[05:01] <iKernel> alekandr: This better not be the DSE webcam...
[05:01] <ortner> hmm, how do i check whats my account and such if i forgot that information on my mysql server? :/
[05:01] <holycow> cafuego, hes running a ubuntu live and mentioning that it's slow
[05:01] <alekandr> iKernel: oh man, you caught me
[05:01] <cafuego> holycow: <heh> yes
[05:01] <dooglus> this is a funny bug report: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22160
[05:01] <alekandr> iKernel: i cant seem to get it to use /dev/video*
[05:02] <iKernel> alekandr: Don't use that piece of crap.
[05:02] <alekandr> omnivision ov519 chip
[05:02] <alekandr> man, its all i got ok
[05:02] <goose> how does one do power management on ubuntu? spinning down hard disks and such?
[05:02] <cafuego> vircuser: Running off cd is infuriatingly slow. Off harddisk it will be at leasta s fast as, but probably fater than, WinXP.
[05:02] <iKernel> alekandr: That webcam was something like 50 dollars australian? Genuis webcam is better
[05:02] <vircuser> cafuego really faster than xp
[05:02] <alekandr> iKernel: I know i know, but i cant be asked to go out and look for another webcam, that linux supports
[05:03] <cafuego> vircuser: Certainly is for me.
[05:03] <alekandr> iKernel: i want to unload the module and reload it
[05:03] <DShepherd> dooglus: that person who made that report needs a dictionary
[05:03] <alekandr> took me forever to find out my usb controllers are ehci-hcd
[05:04] <alekandr> and not uhci or ohci
[05:04] <cafuego> alekandr: usb2 eh?
[05:04] <iKernel> alekandr: modprobe -r ov511
[05:04] <alekandr> cafuego: what is?
[05:04] <iKernel> alekandr: then, modprobe ov511
[05:04] <alekandr> my controllers?
[05:04] <cafuego> alekandr: ehci
[05:04] <alekandr> iKernel: !! :)
[05:04] <iKernel> alekandr: make sure you do modprobe videodev
[05:04] <alekandr> yeah
[05:04] <cafuego> alekandr: ohci and uhci are usb 1.1
[05:04] <iKernel> alekandr: and modprobe video
[05:04] <Hentai^XPwork> Is unix permissions the only thing ubuntu uses for permissions on files and directorys?
[05:05] <cafuego> Hentai^XPwork: You can also use acls.
[05:05] <cafuego> Hentai^XPwork: and attrib settings
[05:05] <vircuser> cafuego wow, thats good i just saw a new distro by mahummad haggar called bingootoo or something i noticed it had a pane on the right side of the screen with the cpu speed and temp and other cool stuff does ubuntu has this?
[05:05] <cafuego> vircuser: if you want it to display that info, you certainly can.
[05:06] <cafuego> mine just displays it next to the clock in the top panel
[05:06] <vircuser> cafuego how?
[05:06] <alekandr> [4426535.300000]  usbcore: registered new driver ov511
[05:06] <alekandr> [4426535.300000]  /usr/share/EasyWebcam/ov511-2.30/ov511_core.c: v2.30 : ov511 USB Camera Driver (V4L2 disabled)
[05:06] <dooglus> DShepherd: really?  it looked ok-ish to me
[05:06] <Hentai^XPwork> cafuego and how can I use these ACLs?
[05:06] <alekandr> Whoo!
[05:06] <cafuego> vircuser: By adding the right application/utility. probably 'gkrellm'.
[05:06] <cafuego> !dstats
[05:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu Distro Stats on breezy... 18229 packages, 1641 maintainers, 35937 MB installed size, 11172 MB compressed size.
[05:07] <Hentai^XPwork> is everything needed there cafuego ?
[05:07] <alekandr> cafuego: if someone had told me ages ago that usb 2 was ehci id have kissed them
[05:07] <cafuego> vircuser: There are 18,229 different tools and apps all package sup, it's unlikely you'll need something that hasn't been processed for you :-)
[05:07] <alekandr> i suppose testing video0 would be cat /dev/video0?
[05:08] <vircuser> cafuego, sup is the app loader or something?
[05:08] <cafuego> Hentai^XPwork: You'll need the acl tools (no idea what they're called). I'm fairly sure they're enabled on ext2/ext3 by default.
[05:08] <cafuego> !find lsacl
[05:08] <holycow> cafuego, you know, strangely that is the truth, i have rarely needed anything that wasnt already in a repo
[05:09] <poningru> and there are so many things that are not on the repos
[05:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'lsacl' returned no results.
[05:09] <cafuego> holycow: Obviously you're not a Gentoo user. ;-)
[05:10] <holycow> *cough* *giggle* :)
[05:10] <alekandr> iKernel: apparently its supposed to be /dev/video or /dev/video0 which its not :(
[05:11] <Hentai^XPwork> cafuego so the tools need aren't there in the standard distro at all
[05:11] <cafuego> Hentai^XPwork: They are, just not *installed* by default, I imagine.
[05:11] <Hentai^XPwork> so how would I install them?
[05:11] <cafuego> !info acl
[05:12] <ubotu> acl: (Access control list utilities), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 2.2.29-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 45 kB, Installed size: 184 kB
[05:12] <cafuego> sudo apt-get install acl
[05:12] <nemik> so what is that key-reading command line program thing? xen? xin?
[05:13] <brownie17> ca anyone tell me why i get this error when trying to convert an mpg file to vcd using mencoder? File not found: 'frameno.avi'
[05:14] <Hentai^XPwork> cafuego so in other wards no tthere like I thought
[05:14] <cafuego> Hentai^XPwork: Seems to contact 'getfacl', 'setfacl' and 'chacl'.
[05:14] <persia> nemik: If you're looking for X key info, you might try xev.  I don't know of something for console.
[05:14] <cafuego> Hentai^XPwork: What do you mean? It's in the 'universe' repository.
[05:14] <cafuego> Hentai^XPwork: I just now installed it, works fine.
[05:15] <Hentai^XPwork> as in
[05:15] <iKernel> alekandr: If you do modprobe video && modprobe videodev, it should create the devices (video0, video1 etc)
[05:15] <Hentai^XPwork> when you a regular ubuntu isntall cafuego
[05:15] <cafuego> Hentai^XPwork: Indeed.
[05:16] <nemik> persia: xev! that's it! thank you
[05:16] <cafuego> Xev was also in 'Lexx'!
[05:16] <vircuser> cafuego, how many linux do u have? r u dual boot? or just ubuntu?
[05:16] <iKernel> alekandr: but seriously, I have never gotton that chip to work under linux. genuis videocam messenger, whoop! works like a charm.
[05:16] <iKernel> bit dark tho
[05:16] <alekandr> iKernel: linkage?
[05:17] <cafuego> vircuser: I have used quite a lot. Currently I only have Ubuntu (i386 and ppc), Debian sarge (i386) and Slackware 3.0.
[05:17] <CuriousCat> hello!
[05:17] <blood> can anyone tell me about xlibs?
[05:17] <CuriousCat> Can someone point to me the URL on how to make my wifi card work on ubuntu using ndiswrapper?
[05:18] <Madpilot> !wifi
[05:18] <ubotu> somebody said wifi was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:18] <Madpilot> !wireless
[05:18] <ubotu> methinks wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:18] <paulproteus> !ndiswrapper
[05:18] <ubotu> I heard ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[05:18] <tkup> I have just changed all references to hoary in my /etc/apt/sources.list file to breezy and ran sudo apt-get update a couple of times. I have rebooted the system since it broke my wireless connection. Now that I'm back to my X session and wireless is working fine should I run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? I just want to avoid nasty results.
[05:18] <blood> !xlibs
[05:18] <ubotu> blood: I give up, what is it?
[05:18] <iKernel> alekandr: http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html
[05:18] <poningru> tkup: yes you should do that
[05:19] <iKernel> alekandr: the website is designed like s**t, but the driver works.
[05:19] <vircuser> cafuego, ive been researching and reading for about 2 weeks now. debian, xandros and ubuntu come top list, however i just muhammed haggar "the egyptian" new linux and it's visually appealing , have u heard of it it's bin......go something.
[05:19] <blood> i donno i need it apparently
[05:19] <iKernel> alekandr: but, alas, there is no video0 created. Works under gnomemeeting, tho
[05:19] <HaiKarate> CuriousCat : not only could somebody point you, but *two somebodys* and a somebody wannabe! how's that for free support?!
[05:19] <tkup> poningru, should I expect any nastiness?
[05:19] <CuriousCat> thank you!!! :D
[05:20] <holycow> vircuser, well first things first, there is never such a thing as a 'new linux'
[05:20] <vircuser> holycow thanks
[05:20] <Madpilot> HaiKarate: as is often the case, the bot did most of the work! :P
[05:20] <holycow> second all distros are just repackaged and reconfigured packages that all distros have access to
[05:20] <vircuser> holycow i see thanks
[05:20] <persia> Would someone be willing to help me troubleshoot the disappearance of my /dev/input/js0 device with the recent udev change?  I'm not sure what info would be useful for a bug report.
[05:20] <holycow> third, if you are looking for a desktop all of them use some of the standard desktop environments, like kde, gnome, enlightenment, etc
[05:21] <holycow> what you really should be paying attention to is not 'new linux' but 'how is this distro configured'
[05:21] <holycow> what is specialy about it
[05:21] <holycow> for example xandros is just a customized debian with kde over top.  what makes them special is they think all users are idiots and need a linux distro to look and work like windows
[05:21] <iKernel> !xlibs is at http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/xlibs
[05:21] <ubotu> iKernel: okay
[05:21] <holycow> for all its worth xandros seems to work easiest for people that want linux to work like windows
[05:22] <vircuser> ohh
[05:22] <holycow> personally i hate that but again, each distro caters to a particular audience
[05:22] <Madpilot> holycow: but it's Gnome users who're the idiots, Torvalds said so! :P
[05:22] <holycow> debian for example is a super powerfull distro that probably gets you the closest to 'customize all you want' without having to compile from source
[05:23] <iKernel> holycow: I MIGHT try that out... nah not worth it
[05:23] <poningru> Madpilot: rofl
[05:23] <sampan> madpilot, he didn't say gnome users were idiots.  he said the gnome developers TREAT their users as idiots. entirely different meaning.
[05:23] <HaiKarate> yeah, so like what does ole leeeenus use, twm? Windows?
[05:23] <holycow> ubuntus strenght is basically taking debian, freezing it every 6 months, and adding lots of elbow grease (and cash) to make the debian packages into a desktop environment that you really don't haveto setup your self for the most part
[05:23] <vircuser> holycow thanks...... that helps. i like ubuntu, community message, unity, freedom and all, i can't get my internet cnnection to work
[05:23] <alekandr> iKernel: http://www.cannings.co.uk/acatalog/logitech_webcams.html ??? which one have you got, i need a webcam that supports any messenger like amsn or kopete
[05:24] <holycow> vircuser, and on and on... but it all the same crap basically
[05:24] <holycow> vircuser, well tell us what you tried and perhaps someone who knows the answer is around
[05:24] <iKernel> alekandr: I don't have a logitech webcam.
[05:24] <vircuser> holycow would u go back to windows
[05:24] <holycow> Madpilot, i'm taking away your stir stick
[05:24] <holycow> >_>
[05:24] <alekandr> what have you got iKernel ?
[05:24] <Madpilot> sampan: yeah, but the way I phrased it is far more flameworthy! :P
[05:24] <holycow> vircuser, never, not in a million years, but my outlook on things and my needs are not the same as others
[05:25] <camo> my speakers are out and my alarm clock is broken, anyone know of a program that uses the system clock for an alarm?
[05:25] <camo> system speaker i mean
[05:25] <vircuser> i want the same windows software but the stability of linux
[05:25] <sampan> madpilot, ahhhhhh indeed.  if provocation, rather than accuracy, was your goal, then your statement makes more sense ;)
[05:25] <cafuego> camo: 'at 6:00 sudo cat /proc/kcore > /dev/console'
[05:26] <holycow> vircuser, let me also backup a sec and mention something fairly important about linux and gnu
[05:26] <cafuego> camo: That should wake you ;-)   [Disclaimer: don't] 
[05:26] <camo> ?
[05:26] <Madpilot> sampan: yeah, and KDE users are all feature sluts, right? :P
[05:26] <holycow> the thing that i like about the platforms is that they cannot die
[05:26] <holycow> as long
[05:26] <poningru> vircuser: start using ubuntu, get your friends to use ubuntu, make it very popular and watch the progs coming in
[05:26] <holycow> as long as the developers are coding for their needs, the platform will survive because ultimately its the core users coding for their needs
[05:26] <sampan> madpilot, yes -- all of us!  i have embraced my sluttiness
[05:27] <camo> cafuego, know of any way to make the system clock beep at 6am without lighting my computer on fire?
[05:27] <iKernel> alkandr: http://www.geniusnet.com.tw/product/product-1.asp?pdtno=528 I haven't got it to work with linux yet. I don't have access to this webcam at this time, and I didn't get it to work under amsn (GAY /dev/video0 NOT THERE!!!)
[05:27] <holycow> which is kinda important, because once you forget about things like 'market share' and 'quareterly reports' you are free to really do some remarkable things, like experiment with ideas
[05:27] <cafuego> camo: You can write a ctrl-G character to /dev/console, that'll make it beep.
[05:27] <holycow> and not get tied up in marketing hypet
[05:27] <holycow> -t
[05:27] <holycow> or fear that if a company cannot find revenue that it will disappear tommorrow
[05:27] <iKernel> alknadr: ls /dev/video0
[05:28] <vircuser> holycow and poningru thanks. heres my problem i loaded the live cd but i can't experiance ubuntu fully, no internet!
[05:28] <holycow> for me at least that is an incredibly important factor in choosing linux / gnu / bsd or whatnot
[05:28] <persia> camo: If you run xmms or bmp, you can use the bmp-alarm or xmms-alarm packages for an alarm.  You'll need to supply the sound files.
[05:28] <camo> persia, the problem is that my speakers are broken, i need something that uses the system speaker
[05:28] <holycow> vircuser, system / administration / networking, setup your network settings for your internal network
[05:29] <iKernel> persia: Lol bmp! I know that as the bitmap file format.
[05:29] <regeya> yeah, that bugs me when people say 'bmp'
[05:29] <regeya> also, bmp as the next-gen xmms is dead in a way.
[05:30] <iKernel> "next-gen xmms"? xmms is pwn
[05:30] <greg__> what up?
[05:31] <jason> nothin what u up to
[05:31] <iKernel> Did you know that there is a way to get access to microsoft source code?
[05:31] <regeya> http://audacious-media-player.org/Main_Page <- XMMS, I mean BMP, I mean Audacious
[05:31] <greg__> I can't figure out this dlink router 713p
[05:31] <camo> im out of here, im just gonna hope i can get my speakers working somehow x.x
[05:31] <greg__> anyone know how to get a router to work with ubuntu?
[05:32] <vircuser> during loadup it saw i have a network interface (usb 2wire for my hpna- basically i have 2nd and 3rd pc connected to the modem/router through the phone line with usb device) but in the network devices it says "loopback interface" but i can't change or configure because the configure option is shaded. also, in the network setting it shows modem connection - interface ppo not configured i can go to properties but the activate a
[05:32] <jason> usually ubuntu configures all your network configs in the install
[05:32] <Mulder> greg__, setting the ubunu machine up as a router?
[05:32] <iKernel> greg__: For goodness's sake, just put a windows machine in charge of the router and put your linux machine behind it.
[05:32] <holycow> vircuser, how are you connected to what?
[05:32] <holycow> you have a router right?
[05:32] <holycow> how are you connected to the router?
[05:33] <greg__> well, I got my dsl coming in to the router and my router directly connected to my desktop unit
[05:33] <greg__> then I have my laptop on wireless
[05:33] <Mulder> how is it connected
[05:33] <jason> i cant get sound out my speakers with ubuntu
[05:33] <holycow> was a question for vircuser greg__ :)
[05:33] <iKernel> Mulder: Wireless.
[05:33] <greg__> I know, but I was midsentence
[05:33] <holycow> oh! hehe :) k jsut making sure
[05:34] <Mulder> iKernel, so he has a hardware router, with ethernet to desktop, and wifi to his ubuntu lap?
[05:34] <greg__> the laptop with wireless is windows and does connect to the  internet
[05:34] <jason> how do i get sound comming out of my speakers with ubuntu. the motherboard has the sound card embedded in it.
[05:34] <greg__> but my desktop unit with ubuntu that is directly connected through a wire won't connect
[05:34] <iKernel> Tell you how dad has it.
[05:34] <iKernel> He got a hub that the DSL box is connected to.
[05:35] <jason> is there a way to load sound drivers to my ubuntu?
[05:35] <iKernel> This linux desktop is connected to the hub through an ethernet connection.
[05:35] <greg__> exactly
[05:35] <sethk> jason, you shouldn't have to do anything separate to do that
[05:35] <cafuego> jason: System -> prefernces -> Sound -> pick a card
[05:35] <sethk> jason, normally the installation program finds and loads the drivers
[05:35] <greg__> as we speak I disconnected the wireless hub so i can talk to you guys
[05:36] <greg__> and i am directly connected through ethernet to the dsl box with the desktop ubuntu
[05:36] <holycow> cafuego, heh, i didn't know that ... weird.  i should try seeing how a system handles multiple cards
[05:36] <Mulder> shoudl just work
[05:36] <iKernel> For wireless, he has a couple of asus (sp?) wireless things that can act as a gateway and a wireless adaptor. The asus things have an ethernet port (they are driverless, these asus things).
[05:37] <iKernel> But you see, my dad is dammned good at networking, so he smart
[05:37] <vircuser> holycow - ok my pc is connected to my external modem/router (combo) by a usb device (2wire usb) using the phone line, during the live cd install it found it as a network device 2wire etc.... but in my network tools - network device - "loopback interface" and the configure button  is shaded. now in the network setting it shw a modem connection - interface ppo not configured ? how can i get  it to show 2wire usb so i can surf?
[05:37] <cafuego> holycow: Just lists multiple in the pull-down there.
[05:37] <cafuego> holycow: Mine lists my sblive and the on-board one.
[05:37] <Mulder> if the desktop is hooked up to the router via wired ethernet, then there's really no reason why ubuntu wouldnt work
[05:37] <iKernel> Oh, I ani't going into it here.
[05:38] <jason> ehh my sound card still does not work for some reason
[05:38] <greg__> maybe my wire is bad
[05:38] <jason> under the sound card it says HDA Intel
[05:38] <poningru> greg__: you sure the router is using ethernet for connecting to the computer? maybe you started using pppoe or something?
[05:38] <gerald-volt> anyone here have a usb joystick?  if so, can you help me test a program?
[05:38] <poningru> greg__: how are you connected right now?
[05:38] <jason> so it looks as if it has found the sound card but the sound will still not work
[05:38] <iKernel> jason: Install new alsa drivers.
[05:38] <Mulder> greg__, make sure you're not using crossover cable
[05:38] <poningru> greg__: using the same wire right?
[05:38] <greg__> well, I am using as far as I know a ethernet cable
[05:38] <poningru> Mulder: todoays nics and routers have autodetect
[05:38] <jason> where do i get the alsa driver
[05:39] <holycow> vircuser, i'm going to haveto plead ignorance on that one, i have no experience with that sort of setup, i am sorry.  maybe someone else knows
[05:39] <poningru> Mulder: todays*
[05:39] <Mulder> poningru, cabling autodetection?
[05:39] <greg__> and the one on the router with WAN is connected to the dsl box and
[05:39] <poningru> Mulder: yes they can detect crossover
[05:39] <vircuser> holycow, how r u connected?
[05:39] <poningru> and compensate accordingly
[05:39] <iKernel> greg__: What color is it? Blue? Yellow? Grey? (usually long patch cables are blue)
[05:39] <Mulder> poningru, i'd be impressed if they can detect and autocorrect heh
[05:39] <greg__> there is 1 2 3 and 4 outputs I guess for multiple
[05:39] <poningru> Mulder: they do
[05:39] <mark105> is there a way to apt-get all the webmin packages at once?
[05:39] <greg__> the cable is grey
[05:39] <cafuego> Mulder: Mine do.
[05:39] <poningru> greg__: how are you connected right now?
[05:39] <iKernel> greg__: So it short?
[05:39] <cafuego> Mulder: They don't care of you use x-over or normal.
[05:39] <Mulder> cafuego, what kind of card do you have?
[05:39] <greg__> yeah using a red cable
[05:40] <Mulder> i wonder if this broadcom can do that
[05:40] <cafuego> Mulder: some d-link router and a yukon gbit in my desktop box
[05:40] <poningru> jason: go to system->pref->media select
[05:40] <iKernel> greg__: um..?
[05:40] <greg__> but I need to cables, one for the dsl box to router and one to desktop
[05:40] <greg__> two cables
[05:40] <poningru> jason: media system selector
[05:40] <vircuser> holycow can i mount it somehow?
[05:40] <cafuego> s/router/switch/
[05:40] <iKernel> poningru: Media Systems Selctor
[05:40] <poningru> yeah what he said
[05:41] <poningru> he left out an e but you know what he meant
[05:41] <holycow> vircuser, i cannot even begin to guess as i have no clue what that usb connection is like
[05:41] <holycow> it sounds like you are trying to network your system via a usb cable of some sort, in which case ethernet over usb is a mystery to me
[05:41] <persia> jason: The ALSA drivers are included in the kernel.  Try running `alsamixer` from a terminal window: for my card, I needed to unmute the "front" speakers before anything would work.
[05:42] <tamale> I'm getting an error message when I run mdadm --create... it says: Cannot open /dev/hde: Device or resource busy   for every one of my hard drives
[05:42] <jason> When i try to run the test it says FAILED TO construct test pipeline for 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture'
[05:42] <iKernel> holycow: It seems that usb ports are multi-functional.
[05:43] <Knowerrors>  anybody using Opera browser know what motif package is needed?
[05:43] <iKernel> holycow: Mouse, wireless adaptor, mic, speaker, hell, there's even a usb desktop light at this house.
[05:43] <cafuego> Knowerrors: Opera uses Qt, not motif.
[05:43] <greg__> i'm downloading the manual from dlnk right now
[05:43] <vircuser> holycow it looks like a line filter, usb on one end and a line filter on the other which is where the phone line plugs in.
[05:43] <holycow> http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/10/31/israel.lenslet.reut/  <-- wow neat
[05:43] <tamale> anyone know anything about mdadm ?
[05:43] <jason> okay i tried the terminal
[05:43] <vircuser> holycow is that link for me?
[05:43] <jason> it say item: PC Speaker [off] 
[05:43] <iKernel> greg__: Ha! I highly doubt that the manual will be linux-speficic.
[05:43] <cafuego> Knowerrors: if you fetch opera-static, this isn't an issue.
[05:43] <jason> what key do i press to change it to on
[05:44] <holycow> vircuser, no, just a general point of interest
[05:44] <holycow> vircuser, i have never routed ethernet over usb, but thats basically what you need to google
[05:44] <holycow> i have seensome notes on this a while back about geting dialup access via a cel phone and usb connection
[05:44] <vircuser> it's working in xp not in linux
[05:44] <holycow> vircuser, is this some sort of weird laptop without an ethernet adapter?
[05:45] <greg__> no doubt ikernel
[05:45] <greg__> I am just looking at it to see some specs
[05:45] <holycow> iKernel, stop the ctcp
[05:45] <cafuego> vircuser: The Linux and XP ethernet-over-usb protocols may also not be compatible.
[05:45] <iKernel> holycow: But it fun! :D
[05:45] <iKernel> ok i stop
[05:45] <Knowerrors> cafuego: the only opera I found was in the plf ubuntu repos
[05:45] <cafuego> !opera
[05:45] <ubotu> Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[05:45] <_jeff> hey guys
[05:45] <persia> vircuser: Take a look at http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/ to determine what module is required for your interface.  There are useful instructions for some devices there, and if nothing else, it can assist you in any searches.
[05:45] <holycow> Knowerrors, its right on theri website
[05:46] <iKernel> !no
[05:46] <ubotu> Ahh, too bad, I really thought so...
[05:46] <Knowerrors> cafuego: and it asked for motif wrapper after I installed it to use mozilla plugins
[05:46] <cafuego> Knowerrors: Oh, plugins. Grr. lesstif is what most linuxes use, as motif istelf is not free.
[05:46] <_jeff> im having a problem with my wlan, i can connect to my home network, i can see my files on the network and everything seems to work fine. but i cant acess the internet
[05:47] <phreak97> ok, azureas cant make files where i want it to download to (some setlength error) but it can on the desktop, the place i want it to save stuff has exactly the same permissions as the desktop
[05:47] <phreak97> help?
[05:47] <Mulder> wow, unicode
[05:47] <vircuser> holycow - no it's a reg tower p4, pc, no nic card, just a usb filter, software installed drivers for sbc dsl. my 1st pc is connected to the modem/router by ethernet and my 2nd and 3rd have the usb  filter thingy (2wire device) plugged in the phone line
[05:47] <pc22> how do i edit resolution. 640x480 is the only choice
[05:47] <cafuego> yh
[05:47] <greg__> I can't figure it out right now, thanks yall. -Greg
[05:47] <_jeff> phreak: how did you install it?
[05:48] <holycow> vircuser, heh, i wish i could actually help solve the problem, perhaps ethernet over usb is the future :) who knows
[05:48] <_jeff> im having a problem with my wlan, i can connect to my home network, i can see my files on the network and everything seems to work fine. but i cant acess the internet
[05:48] <theconartist> what is the default directory for apache2 from the ubuntu repo
[05:48] <Knowerrors> cafuego: yeah, opera is installed and works fine from plf repos, but tells me at startup that it needs motif to use mozilla plugins
[05:48] <phreak97> _jeff, however the guide told me
[05:49] <vircuser> do u think if i download the actual install version it will recognize everything and configure it for me?
[05:49] <_jeff> phreak97: do you have any wierd partitioning?
[05:49] <holycow> download install of what vircuser ?
[05:49] <vircuser> holycow do u think if i install the ubuntu version instead of this live cd.
[05:50] <phreak97> _jeff, the place i want it is /media/s/Bittorrent/incoming
[05:50] <phreak97> its a fat32 partition
[05:50] <phreak97> wouldnt have called it wierd myself
[05:50] <_jeff> phreak97: i think thats because media goes for if u have like a usb stick
[05:50] <holycow> vircuser, not sure actually :/  give it a go ?
[05:50] <phreak97> thats where they auto installed
[05:51] <phreak97> _jeff, can i get around it without changing the mount points of my drives?
[05:51] <vircuser> holycow i read that the ubuntu is linux and it will install unix software, isn't mac unix or linux based. if so i can use itunes and garage band for mac right?
[05:51] <persia> theconartist: /var/www/apache2
[05:52] <_jeff> phreak97: im not sure man. what are you trying to do? dl directly to usb hdd or something?
[05:52] <phreak97> vircuser, ubuntu IS linux, i doubt you can install mac software
[05:52] <tamale> i can't seem to get any real help here (no offence to anyone, it just seems that no one here knows how to use mdadm..)   could anyone here please simply suggest the next best place for me to receive support?
[05:52] <vircuser> phreak97 thanks
[05:52] <phreak97> _jeff,  nope, its a partition on my main drive
[05:53] <phreak97> but thats where it mounted itself
[05:53] <ilba7r> i heared ubuntu used different build rules than debian. My question is can i use dh_make to make a .deb bin from source?
[05:53] <_jeff> phreak97: hmm
[05:53] <cafuego> !find libXm.so
[05:53] <phreak97> vircuser, np
[05:53] <tamale> hello?
[05:54] <vircuser> i wish i can mount this 2wire usb device so i can surf with ubuntu can anyone help?
[05:54] <holycow> tamale, just so that someone answers you, i have no clue what mdam is :)
[05:54] <_jeff> phreak97: dont know man. hopefully somebody else in here does
[05:54] <_jeff> im having a problem with my wlan, i can connect to my home network, i can see my files on the network and everything seems to work fine. but i cant acess the internet
[05:54] <tamale> as far as i understand, it's the software raid manager
[05:54] <holycow> vircuser, try googling ethernet over usb ubuntu or somethign like that
[05:55] <ilba7r> anyone know how deb build rules are diff from ubuntu?
[05:55] <vircuser> holycow thanks
[05:55] <phreak97> anyone know?
[05:55] <holycow> you shouldn't havet compile a kernel just tell ubuntu to use ethernet over that device
[05:55] <tamale> i mean i just can't believe how hard of a time i'm having trying to find some information about these error messages i'm getting... it seems like software raid is something many people use linux for........
[05:55] <persia> vircuser: Check http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/ to see if there are any reports on your device.
[05:55] <phreak97> i really need to download to my s partition
[05:55] <vircuser> holycow how
[05:55] <holycow> vircuser, probably there will be some entry in /etc/network/interfaces that will be haveto created, not sure
[05:56] <holycow> vircuser, the how will haveto be left to google my friend, i
[05:56] <jamie> hey I want to setup a launcher to start a sh file. what should I make the command?
[05:56] <holycow> i've never done that
[05:56] <cafuego> Knowerrors: install `libmotif3' and add `/usr/X11R6/lib' to /etc/ld.so.conf. Then run 'sudo ldconfig'.
[05:56] <garry> It is probably because none of us know why or that the answer would take an age to relate Tamele. sorry, your original question scrolled off the screen or never appeared.
[05:56] <ilba7r> as usaly no one know
[05:56] <vircuser> holycow how can i edit that string, i'm new to linux? from the run command?
[05:56] <phreak97> ok, azureas cant make files where i want it to download to (some setlength error) but it can on the desktop, the place i want it to save stuff has exactly the same permissions as the desktop
[05:57] <cafuego> ilba7r: Just run 'dpkg-buildpackage -b', it will be fine.
[05:57] <tamale> I'm getting an error message when I run mdadm --create... it says: Cannot open /dev/hde: Device or resource busy   for every one of my hard drives
[05:57] <tamale> the error messages are simply saying that my drives are busy
[05:57] <phreak97> the place i want is a fat32 partition on the same drive as my filesystem, but for some reason it's mounted in /media/s
[05:57] <cafuego> tamale: Are they mounted?
[05:57] <phreak97> not /mnt
[05:57] <garry> tamale, is it possible that the drives are mounted.
[05:57] <holycow> vircuser, you are editing a file and you can use a text editor like gedit.  from terminal you want to start gedit with sudo gedit ... so it runs as root
[05:57] <garry> what cafuego said.
[05:57] <tamale> as far as i understand they're not supposed to be be mounted yet
[05:57] <holycow> files in /etc are protected
[05:57] <ilba7r> cafuego just needed to know simple answer are deb rules diif then ubuntu and can i use use dh_make?
[05:58] <cafuego> tamale: That wasn't my question. Are they or are they not?
[05:58] <tweek888> what happened to the ubotu?
[05:58] <tweek888> :<
[05:58] <tamale> how would i know
[05:58] <cafuego> ilba7r: They're not normally different as far as I know.
[05:58] <garry> if it says auto in the fourth field, they would mount automaticallly.
[05:58] <cafuego> !test
[05:58] <ChildrenoftheKor> what up
[05:58] <cafuego> damn bot
[05:58] <cafuego> hold on
[05:58] <garry> that would be in /etc/fstab
[05:58] <ilba7r> thanx cafuego
[05:58] <_jeff> can nobody help me with my wlan problem?
[05:58] <persia> phreak97: All extra filesystems are mounted in /media in ubuntu, rather than /mnt.  If you really want it in /mnt, put an entry in /etc/fstab with your desired location.
[05:58] <alejandro> as I was saying, I have been googling for a while looking the way to play mp3 with amarok, but I can't find anything. Any ideas about it
[05:58] <alejandro> ?
[05:58] <phreak97> persia, i dont
[05:59] <phreak97> i just want azureas to work
[05:59] <en1gma> hi all
[05:59] <vircuser> holycow sudo is like some sort of app loader or something?
[05:59] <ChildrenoftheKor> OKay I have a windows NTFS 80 gig drive that i hooked up to my computer after I installed Ubuntu. Ubuntu sees the drive but will not let me access it
[05:59] <garry> Its a codec you need alejandro I can't remember what the codec is however.
[05:59] <holycow> vircuser, something like it sure, it lets you run applications as root
[06:00] <en1gma> is ubunto.kubunto a live cd
[06:00] <persia> phreak97: Sorry then.  I'm not familiar with azureus.
[06:00] <scottt106> Anyone have time to help a linux newbie?  just a couple quick questions
[06:00] <kyager> Why isn't my .Xdefaults working, even when I restart X?
[06:00] <vircuser> holycow root?
[06:00] <tamale> cafuego: They're listed as 'Inaccessible' in Disks Manager, if that helps
[06:00] <holycow> vircuser, you want to only use it for as few tasks as possible
[06:00] <ChildrenoftheKor> how do i access the 80 gig windows ntfs drive
[06:00] <alejandro> garry: I installed win32codecs but doesn't work with them
[06:00] <cafuego> tamale: Disks manager?
[06:00] <_jeff> vircuser: it mean super user, which tells the system that you are requesting super user privillages
[06:00] <holycow> vircuser, root in unix is like and administrator, everyone runs as a reduced priviledge user by default
[06:00] <tamale> cafuego:  yes, the ubuntu disk manager utility
[06:00] <cafuego> heeeere botty!
[06:00] <vircuser> holycow i need a linux resource code book or bible do u have a file?
[06:00] <_jeff> vircuser: so that you can make important changes to the system
[06:00] <holycow> except on linspire which runs everyone as root, which is beyond idiotic
[06:00] <cafuego> tamale: How are you running that?
[06:00] <lnostdal> ChildrenoftheKor, System -> Administration -> Disks    has worked for me
[06:00] <kyager> Why isn't my .Xdefaults working, even when I restart X?
[06:00] <garry> alejandro nods. it was something I installed via synaptec. Might be media player ora  name like that.
[06:00] <holycow> vircuser, yes, www.google.com :)
[06:01] <tamale> cafuego:  System - Administratrion - Disks
[06:01] <phreak97> anyone know is an amd sempron processor is worth having?
[06:01] <alejandro> garry: will look for it thanks
[06:01] <cafuego> tamale: Running from harddisk?
[06:01] <holycow> phreak97, well since all semprons are now 64 bit, how can you go wrong?
[06:01] <garry> alejandro good luck to you.
[06:01] <tamale> cafuego:  I have ubuntu already installed on a different drive
[06:01] <ChildrenoftheKor> strangely enough when I try press enable under the Status it wont let me
[06:01] <en1gma>  installed ubunto and rebooted and then got DE and then i switched to root and did cfdisk and deleted partitions now what
[06:01] <holycow> i used sempron 64's to build budget pc's all the time
[06:01] <ChildrenoftheKor> Status: Inaccessible
[06:01] <cafuego> tamale: Does 'df' show the other drives?
[06:01] <narles> ubotu tell fealz about checkinstall
[06:02] <tweek888> ubotu tell tweek888 about ntfs mounting
[06:02] <tamale> caf:  no
[06:02] <tweek888> :[
[06:02] <scottt106> Can somebody help me, I'm having terminal troubles.  When using a make command, i get the message "bash: make: command not found".  After a little research it sounds like i need to install the make command... Does anyone know how I could do that?
[06:02] <phreak97> holycow, it's an amd sempron 3000+
[06:02] <phreak97> for a laptop
[06:02] <vircuser> holycow thanks, but i'm scared to dl ubuntu if won't recogize my internet device, can i speak to ubuntu rep or something?
[06:02] <en1gma> wow this channel is way to busy
[06:02] <cafuego> scottt106: What are you compiling?
[06:02] <kyager> Why isn't my .Xdefaults working, even when I restart X?
[06:02] <floam> after building my own .deb from a source package and installing it, apt wants to "upgrade" me to the same thing except from the dapper repository.
[06:02] <floam> The following packages will be upgraded:
[06:02] <floam>    gnome-control-center (2.13.4-0ubuntu1 => 2.13.4-0ubuntu1)
[06:02] <tamale> cafuego:  what, if they WERE mounted you might've been able to help?
[06:02] <ChildrenoftheKor> I also have my mp3 collection on that drive
[06:02] <garry> ChildrenoftheKor, that is odd, usually works for me, I can read, but I can never write to ntfs yet. Linux writing to NTFS is bleeding edge, and sometimes dangerous depending on who you talk to.
[06:02] <sampan> scottt106  you should install the "build-essential" package
[06:03] <cafuego> tamale: Yes, seeing a sunmounting them is easy <heh>
[06:03] <holycow> phreak97, in laptoops only get systems with dedicated mobile cpu's, i wouldn't get a laptop with a sempron, too hot
[06:03] <ChildrenoftheKor> if i enable it will i lose my mp3 collection
[06:03] <scottt106> cafuego: I'm trying to install the drivers for my USB wireless network card, it needs the prism2 drivers through linux wlan ng
[06:03] <tamale> cafuego:  So why are they coming up as 'busy' if they're not even mounted ?
[06:03] <persia> floam: You'll need to "hold" the package.
[06:03] <kyager> Someone has to know...
[06:03] <floam> persia: how do I do that?
[06:03] <ChildrenoftheKor> its weird when i press enable it i see the mouse icon go to a load icon for a second
[06:03] <ChildrenoftheKor> and then nothing happens
[06:03] <holycow> vircuser, well ubuntu is free and doesn't have a rep per se, i'm not sure what the issue is.  download install.  if it doesn't work put whatever else you want on.  just make sure you backup
[06:03] <tweek888> what is the name of the mount script for mounitng other partitions? I forgot it
[06:03] <Hmmmm> hey guys i need some help installing amsn 0.95 on ubuntu breezy
[06:04] <vircuser> scott`106 i have that problem to i have a 2wire usb device for sbc dsl and it won't recognize either.
[06:04] <ChildrenoftheKor> could it be some sort of permissions problem?
[06:04] <Hmmmm> amsn depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.1-9); however:
[06:04] <Hmmmm>   Version of libstdc++6 on system is 4.0.1-4ubuntu9.
[06:04] <kyager> Why isn't my .Xdefaults working, even when I restart X?
[06:04] <cafuego> scottt106: Are you building them via the 'linux-wlan-ng-source' ubuntu package?
[06:04] <sethk> tweek888, I don't think you mean a script.  the /etc/fstab specifies what is mounted
[06:04] <holycow> vircuser, to be perfectly honest, you really would save your self a lot of time if you just bought a $10 network card
[06:04] <sethk> tweek888, and the mount command, with the -a flag, mounts everything in /etc/fstab
[06:04] <tweek888> sethk, thanks
[06:04] <sethk> tweek888, and mount -a is executed during boot up, so I think that's what you want
[06:04] <lnostdal> ChildrenoftheKor, it should be mountet at the path specified just above the enable-button "access path"  .. you should be able look there and the files will be there
[06:04] <scottt106> cafuego:  is there a specific ubuntu package?  i only have the zipped file off the main site
[06:04] <tamale> grawr, ok, so back to my initial question,   if I can't get help here, where should I go next?
[06:04] <floam> persia: if I do that, I'll need to keep an eye out for when a new version is released, right?
[06:05] <cafuego> tamale: no idea. Are they connected to a dodgy controller?
[06:05] <kyager> Why isn't my .Xdefaults working, even when I restart X?
[06:05] <floam> persia: it sort of seems like there should be a way to not make apt care until a newer version comes out
[06:05] <cafuego> tamale: .. or are you running the admin tool as non-root?
[06:05] <floam> persia: since my version is identical to the one from the repo
[06:05] <tamale> no, i'm root
[06:05] <vircuser> holycow i guess my problem is ubuntu isn't recognizing my usb device as my ethernet device any suggestions?
[06:05] <tamale> and the controllers should be fine i'd think.. everything's brand new
[06:05] <tweek888> sethk, I don't have /etc/fstab
[06:05] <tamale> promise controllers
[06:05] <cafuego> tamale: Can you try bootin ght einstall CD and setting up the raid array from that, leaving your normall
[06:06] <cafuego>  install intact...
[06:06] <kyager> Why isn't my .Xdefaults working, even when I restart X?
[06:06] <holycow> vircuser, i gave you general info, i told you to google, and recommended a sane way to solve the problem.  what else are you not clear on?
[06:06] <sethk> tweek888, that's extremely unlikely.  are you sure you didn't look for it as a normal (non-root) user and draw the wrong conclusion from the result?
[06:06] <holycow> vircuser, consider this my last response
[06:06] <tamale> sure, i guess i can give that a shot
[06:06] <vircuser> holycow thanks sorry.......
[06:06] <tamale> i just figured it'd be easier to install first
[06:06] <tweek888> sethk, you're correct ;] 
[06:06] <cafuego> tamale: No, setting 'em up in the installer is dead easy... it's all guided.
[06:06] <sethk> tweek888, good, then, that makes more sense.  :)
[06:06] <tamale> caf:  oh shit really
[06:07] <tamale> lol.. *smacK*
[06:07] <tweek888> sethk, should I restart now?
[06:07] <tweek888> :<
[06:07] <tamale> i'll try that then i guess
[06:07] <kyager> Pretty much a waste of time being here I guess
[06:07] <tamale> how do i tell it to leave my install intact
[06:07] <sethk> tweek888, I don't know, I just got here and the only thing I saw was your question about where the mount points live
[06:07] <tweek888> ah
[06:07] <cafuego> tamale: Just go throuhg the partitioning step and create the raid array, then quit the installer, reboot.. see what happens :-)
[06:07] <persia> floam: `echo package-name hold | dpkg --set-selections` should do it.  Personally, I use aptitude with manual package upgrade selection to avoid the issue.
[06:07] <tamale> rofl  sounds like a plan
[06:08] <tamale> thanks again
[06:08] <cafuego> good luck! :-)
[06:08] <scottt106> cafuego: thanks for the insight, i'm going to check the forums and see what i can find there
[06:08] <alejandro> weird, can' find anything that could help me with amarok playing mp3's
[06:08] <garry> Sometimes, your the windshield, sometimes you are the bug. Kyager. Maybe someone will know later.
[06:10] <phreak97> holycow, pm
[06:10] <holycow> i'm away getting something to eat
[06:10] <ChildrenoftheKor> When i go through the file browser it will not let me access my ntfs hdd
[06:10] <holycow> phreak97, no pm accepted, post in channel
[06:10] <holycow> i'm away
[06:10] <phreak97> damnit
[06:10] <ChildrenoftheKor> it has a little X near the top right corner
[06:11] <phreak97> i want to find out about semprons in laptops without the clutter of the channel
[06:11] <ChildrenoftheKor> do i have to do something with sudo to access it
[06:11] <batman> hello can someone here tell me of a port scanner i can get?
[06:11] <HoboTurtle> hello everyone
[06:11] <persia> batman: nmap
[06:11] <tamale> cafuego:  you're not gonna believe this, but it locked up during the "scanning disks..."  stage of the cd
[06:11] <batman> is the a gui one?
[06:11] <batman> there*
[06:11] <persia> batman: nmapfe
[06:11] <batman> thanks
[06:12] <garry> ChildrenoftheKor, I would recheck the /etc/fstab make sure its is valid.
[06:12] <cafuego> tamale: I wonder if the really new controller is perhaps not supported.
[06:12] <cafuego> (yet)
[06:13] <exclipy> does ubuntu come with any firewalls set up by default?
[06:13] <tamale> cafuego:  Actually, it just failed to find one drive
[06:13] <batman> persia, where can i start it up at?
[06:13] <tamale> cafuego:  I think it's ok now.  Should i go into "edit manually"  ?
[06:13] <cafuego> tamale: Any chance that has a bad jumper or is busted?
[06:13] <cafuego> tamale: yep
[06:13] <cafuego> tamale: Oh, your current install is NOT on the disks you want in the array, right?
[06:14] <tamale> caf:  correct
[06:14] <ChildrenoftheKor> opps i dont even know what i clicked garry
[06:14] <tamale> i'm in the "Configure software raid"  now
[06:14] <persia> batman: You'd do best to read the docs.  `man nmapfe` and `man nmap` are good places to start.
[06:14] <ChildrenoftheKor> i am tryin to pm you
[06:14] <tkup> What do these messages imply? dpkg: warning - unable to delete old directory `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1': Directory not empty
[06:14] <cafuego> tamale: cool
[06:14] <garry> ChildrenoftheKor what you clicked. What happened?
[06:15] <psusi> tamale, you might want to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto... it sounds like you have a fakeraid controller
[06:15] <ChildrenoftheKor> i dont knowth ctcp thing
[06:15] <en1gma> is ubuntu a live cd
[06:16] <tamale> psusi: What's fakeraid ?
[06:16] <garry> There is both live cd and real install avail
[06:16] <tamale> and also, a general question,  should I use LVM over raid?
[06:16] <persia> tkup: A package containing that directory was removed, but files remained in the directory, and so the directory was not deleted.  Usually this means that another package has stored files in the directory.  Sometimes it means there is junk in the directory.  If you are low on disk space, you may wish to investigate these directories to see if they can be deleted.  `dpkg -S filename` is a good way to check if any file is being used b
[06:16] <floam> persia: I'm thinking holding it might not be the best thing. How can I go about bumping the version number?
[06:16] <psusi> tamale, read the wiki, it explains
[06:17] <en1gma> garry thnx
[06:18] <garry> en1gma welcome
[06:18] <tamale> psusi:  I don't think I need this.. I think this is if I want to boot off the raid array
[06:19] <persia> floam: When you build the package, you would make the necessary changes.  Be warned that this method may impact a future version release, and that the packaging tools do poorly with downgrades.  I don't generally create pacakages, but from a quick search, it looks like updating the changelog is sufficient.
[06:19] <psusi> tamale, aye... that is one of the advantages of using that instead of mdraid... another is you can dual boot with windows on the raid...
[06:19] <freak_> anyone know what the command is to open up Synaptics Package Manager?
[06:19] <floam> persia: it parses /debian/changelog? I figured that was just for humans
[06:19] <floam> thanks
[06:19] <p337> hey everybody, how would i view a directory as root?
[06:19] <jip> any apt repository where i could find gtk-engines, gtk-qt-engine and gtk-qt-engine-ui?
[06:19] <tkup> I'm currently doing an apt-get dist-upgrade but this lib libofx2_1 is giving dpkg some problems. I would really appreciate it if somebody could tell what's going on from the errors: http://pastebin.com/497412
[06:19] <tamale> psusi:  I actually have a spare smaller drive in this computer just for the OS
[06:20] <psusi> tamale, if you don't care about booting from it though, then yea... mdraid works fine
[06:20] <freak_> p337, sudo
[06:20] <tkup> persia, thanks
[06:20] <persia> freak_: synaptic
[06:20] <garry> freak_  System/Administration/symantec package manager
[06:20] <tamale> psusi:  I couldn't use it earlier though, I was getting the error message "The disks are busy"
[06:20] <p337> sudo: cd: command not found
[06:20] <freak_> garry, command line
[06:20] <p337> ls
[06:20] <tamale> but i just finished setting it up here in the guided partitioner, so I'll see if this worked
[06:20] <p337> ....oops..
[06:21] <freak_> p337, sudo ls /dir/dir, then it should ask you for password
[06:21] <tkup> my bad. after a apt-get clean the downloading restarted
[06:21] <tamale> What's the best filesystem for a large partition, that will most likely be samba-shared
[06:21] <garry>  freak_ oh If you want to do symantec at command line, most use the apt-get command, but I know almost nothing about that. ye would have to man apt-get
[06:22] <p337> freak_:  thanks
[06:22] <freak_> garry, lol, no i mean starting synaptic from a command line like making an icon for it, but its alright someone else gave me the command
[06:22] <floam> persia: that seemed to work
[06:22] <tamale> ok, it's showing up as 1.1 TB finally,  (YEY!)   so what's the best filesystem for a huge partition??
[06:22] <garry> freak_ cool. :)
[06:22] <floam> persia: it shouldn't mess things up too much, since I changed the -ubuntu1 to -ubuntu1.1
[06:22] <newtype> does anyone else in here have a nforce2 motherboard?
[06:22] <floam> persia: -ubuntu2 will come out and it'll want me to upgrade to that
[06:23] <newtype> im having trouble with finding my ehternet card on it
[06:23] <psusi> tamale, go with ext3 unless you have a reason to do otherwise
[06:23] <tamale> psusi:  I wouldn't know if I had any other reasons :] 
[06:23] <persia> floam: Good to hear.  From what I remember, your new version should match a debian NMU, and so be upgraded once a new ubuntu, debian, or upsteam becomes available.
[06:23] <floam> newtype: the forcedeth driver/module should be what you want
[06:23] <newtype> alright, thanks much
[06:24] <freak_> newtype, i do
[06:24] <cafuego> tamale: I'd probably use ext3. tested & stable.
[06:24] <en1gma> does ubuntu have a 64bit live cd where all apps are compiled in 64bit
[06:25] <cafuego> en1gma: yes
[06:25] <en1gma> why cant i find it on the site
[06:25] <newtype> you see, im new to linux
[06:25] <cafuego> en1gma: Note that there is no workign 64bit flash plugin or decent 64bit java plugin.
[06:25] <newtype> and im not even sure how to install things yet.
[06:25] <cafuego> en1gma: blindity? ;-)
[06:25] <en1gma> i dont care about flash or java as i hate em both
[06:26] <cafuego> and 64bit is also not great for xvid video
[06:26] <newtype> i got as far as compiling the source code for the driver. but that i dont know how to do
[06:26] <regeya> we hates them yes we does
[06:26] <en1gma> ah crap prob dont work with wmv eitjher
[06:26] <tkup> I'm currently doing an apt-get dist-upgrade but this lib libofx2_1 is giving dpkg some problems. I would really appreciate it if somebody could tell what's going on from the errors: http://pastebin.com/497412
[06:26] <cafuego> not really.. they use 32bit windowd codecs
[06:26] <freak_> regeya, nice grammer, lol
[06:26] <jamie> Quick question, the sounds in ubuntu work fine, but when I play a game there is no sound.
[06:26] <persia> cafuego: What's wrong with j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin for 64bit?
[06:26] <cafuego> en1gma: Well, you can run a 32bit chroot.
[06:26] <regeya> freak_, nice spelling
[06:26] <cafuego> persia: Doesn't work with the tax office here
[06:27] <p337> ok, how would i go about deleting a folder as root?
[06:27] <freak_> jamie, check the ingame sound settings
[06:27] <p337> is there a command like deltree
[06:27] <persia> jamie: Make sure you have libsdl1.2debian-alsa installed.  Many games depend on this, and the default libsdl doesn't use ALSA.
[06:27] <cafuego> en1gma: http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-live-amd64.iso
[06:27] <jamie> freak_, it is the same way in all games
[06:27] <en1gma> i didnt think it was possible to get 32bit apps to work in 64bit enviroment...dont forget i dont install compat libraries or i dont have 32bit exe enabled in kernel
[06:27] <en1gma> usually
[06:27] <cafuego> en1gma: Not on Xeon, but amd64 does it fine.
[06:27] <en1gma> someone point me to link for that 64bit ubuntu/kubuntu
[06:27] <persia> cafuego: Thanks.  It worked for my limited use, but I'll not advise it for everything.
[06:28] <en1gma> amd64 here
[06:28] <psusi> en1gma, right now you can setup a 32 bit chroot and install 32bit apps there and run them... in the future, it will be possible to directly install them normally
[06:28] <cafuego> persia: Well, ppl can also find out for themselves :-)
[06:28] <freak_> anyone here experienced with aDesklets?
[06:28] <coz> hello all
[06:28] <narles> i can't get some video to work with sound in a mozilla window.. judging from the progress bar, it seems to be a quicktime player
[06:28] <SweetestSavage> !xfce
[06:28] <ubotu> somebody said xfce was a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[06:28] <en1gma> i want 64bit enviroemnt only even if it means no xvid
[06:28] <regeya> freak_, anytime I hear someone say they *hate* flash or anything along those lines, I think of Gollum, hence my 'we hates them' comment.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gollum
[06:29] <freak_> regeya, heh
[06:29] <en1gma> does the cd install compatible files for 32bit
[06:29] <en1gma> i bet it does
[06:29] <jamie> persia, that was it thank you so much
[06:29] <en1gma> well not install but loda (live cd)
[06:29] <freak_> anyone use aDesklets or gDesklets?
[06:30] <cafuego> en1gma: Only for openOffcie.org. (There is no 64bit version).
[06:30] <coz> freak i did use them why
[06:30] <en1gma> ahhh well on that amd64 bit ubuntu live cd are you telling me there are 32bit compat versions of software on there
[06:30] <cafuego> en1gma: yes
[06:30] <en1gma> crap
[06:30] <en1gma> i dont mess with that
[06:31] <en1gma> i strictly want 64 bit only
[06:31] <freak_> coz, i can't get aDesklets to configure
[06:31] <coz> right click on the icon at the upper right corner
[06:31] <coz> OH sorry you can't configure it???
[06:31] <garry> Sorry en1gma software has to do some catchup to 64 bit stuff.
[06:31] <en1gma> whatever but there are other distros makeing 64bit live cd only (as i speak)
[06:31] <freak_> coz, cant get ./configure to make the executable
[06:32] <en1gma> i know a guy doing it
[06:32] <narles> movies that play in mozilla using macromedia flash player 7 don't play with sound.. how do i go about fixing this???
[06:32] <psusi> en1gma, I'm running the amd64 version
[06:32] <garry> try seeing www.distrowatch.com
[06:32] <coz> freak_ interesting because I have that same problem with another application are you using breezy?
[06:32] <en1gma> its not listed on distrowatch
[06:32] <en1gma> i know the guy
[06:32] <psusi> en1gma, works fine if you don't mind not being able to use 32bit only proprietary software... which I don't... I don't use proprietary software at all
[06:32] <en1gma> well from irc anyhow
[06:32] <freak_> coz, and the version on synaptics doesn't let me load desklets
[06:32] <freak_> coz, yes
[06:32] <cafuego> en1gma: No, there is _some_ software that does not HAVE 64bit versions. IF that is include don the other CDs (Like Openoffice) they will ALSO have a 32bit compat lib.
[06:33] <coz> it won't let you load? what are theerrors?
[06:33] <psusi> ohh, yea... openoffice currently is busted on 64bit, so ubuntu uses the 32 bit version on amd64 instead
[06:33] <en1gma> so on cd1 of ubuntu is there any 32bit software on it at all (dont forget im just gonna use a live cd)
[06:33] <freak_> coz, therrors?
[06:33] <garry> I was meaning to look at distrowatch to see if any distro supports 64bit cpu enough to be acceptable to en1gma
[06:33] <cafuego> en1gma: If you don't want to run that for its own sake, maybe buy an Intel itanic :-)
[06:33] <coz> when you try to load the one from synaptic?
[06:34] <en1gma> intel arggg
[06:34] <freak_> coz, you want the printout?
[06:34] <ajmitch> en1gma: why are you so adamant about having 64-bit only?
[06:34] <en1gma> ;)
[06:34] <dean> what package do I need to install the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website? it says the kernel source, but I got linux-source-2.6.12 and its still not working
[06:34] <cafuego> ajmitch: ignorance prolly
[06:34] <coz> I woulnd't mind seeing it post it and give me the url
[06:34] <en1gma> keep it 64bit makes it alot cleaner and dont slow the proc down using the 32bit exe in the kernel.config
[06:34] <ajmitch> en1gma: eh what?
[06:35] <cafuego> en1gma: No, you're mistaken.
[06:35] <coz> dean I have the same problem I have url if you would like it
[06:35] <en1gma> to run those 32bit compat apps you have to have 32bit support compiled in kernel
[06:35] <en1gma> i compile alot
[06:35] <dean> coz: thanks :>
[06:35] <cafuego> That "guy" is he a gentoo user at all?
[06:35] <garry> On the package manager under System/Administration/package manager search for nvidia. There was a compiled nvidia driver there somewhere.
[06:36] <dean> its old
[06:36] <cafuego> en1gma: 32bit compat doesn't make your kernel run slower.
[06:36] <en1gma> ya think it dont
[06:36] <coz> dean   http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074
[06:36] <cafuego> No, it really doesn't.
[06:36] <en1gma> then why are ppl even switching from 64bit only from 32bit
[06:36] <coz> dean it didn't work for me but give it a try it may screw up the xorg.conf
[06:36] <en1gma> to64bit
[06:36] <dean> coz: righto, thx
[06:36] <freak_> coz, nevermind... it worked.... it actually worked.... YIPEEE!!!
[06:37] <coz> freak what did you do right?
[06:37] <tyler> yup
[06:37] <freak_> coz, well since it not working till now, i installed gDesklets and its dependencies
[06:37] <narles> movies that play in mozilla using macromedia flash player 7 don't play with sound.. how do i go about fixing this???
[06:37] <coz> good going
[06:38] <hobbes_opus> we're trying to get a network printer that was working on Hoary Hedghog running on Breezy badger.  Its on a Windows workstation.
[06:38] <ajmitch> en1gma: on the contrary having a fully 64-bit system can be slower - however it's really getting offtopic even for here
[06:39] <persia> Is anyone familiar with udev magic?  My /dev/input/js0 is missing, and I'd like to restore it.  The device shows on the bus, and usbhid is loaded.
[06:39] <en1gma> CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
[06:39] <en1gma> CONFIG_BINFMT_MISC=y
[06:39] <en1gma> # CONFIG_IA32_EMULATION is not set
[06:39] <cafuego> en1gma: Becuase for a lot of applications 64bit code is faster. Just coz the kernel has a 32bit layer in it (that doesn't actually RUN unless you RUN a 32bit app that that point in time)
[06:40] <brenner> narles: hit the forum. i've heard that one before
[06:40] <cafuego> en1gma: I suggest you get some docs on this issue from people who know what they're talking about.
[06:40] <newtype> i have the patch, but how to I apply it
[06:40] <regeya> just remembered the time I got a kickban from #freebsd for answering a linux abi question
[06:40] <en1gma> well if your gonna say a 64bit version is avail you better say 32bit (not 64bit pure)
[06:40] <ajmitch> en1gma: really, *don't* paste in here
[06:41] <en1gma> i didnt violate any rules that why bot no kick me
[06:41] <gerald-volt> Cansomeone with a usb joystick help me test a programI wrote?
[06:41] <dean> ok thats odd as hell, i thought I had installed my kernel's header files, but checked in case, and they were downloaded but not installed! :o now it works ;)
[06:41] <ajmitch> we don't have bots to kick here
[06:41] <coz> en1gma did you do a pasty?
[06:41] <Madpilot> en1gma: the bots here don't kick...
[06:41] <en1gma> my bad then
[06:41] <en1gma> sorry
[06:41] <coz> lol
[06:42] <dean> coz: cheers ;)
[06:42] <persia> gerald-volt: I'd be happy to test.  Do I need a working /dev/input/js0?
[06:42] <gerald-volt> i don't know
[06:42] <coz> dean did the url help out
[06:42] <newtype> can someone that is willing to help a linux newbie start a private chat with me
[06:42] <en1gma> anyhow i know you guys got a pretty good os (just look at how many ppl are in here (but i gonna wait for 64bit pure live cd)
[06:42] <coz> newtype what is the problem
[06:42] <HoboTurtle> hello everyone
[06:42] <en1gma> hiay
[06:42] <newtype> i need to know how to install a program/apply a patch
[06:43] <coz> newtype are you using breezy?
[06:43] <newtype> breezy?
[06:43] <HoboTurtle> im a newby to linux, real real newbie to ubuntu
[06:43] <coz> newtype do you know the name of the application?
[06:43] <HoboTurtle> i would appreciate if someone could help me out with something
[06:43] <gerald-volt> persia:  http://members.shaw.ca/bokinator/test
[06:43] <sethk> newtype, why not just ask your questions here?
[06:43] <regeya> en1gma, seriously, will you also wait to try MacOS X until Classic Mode is removed?  Will you wait to try Vista until it only runs Vista apps?  I suppose I'm confused about what you're on about.
[06:44] <gerald-volt> it's suppose to just say how many joysticks it found
[06:44] <en1gma> i aint gonna wait to long as i know ppl are working on it as we speak
[06:44] <newtype> its the forcedeth patch
[06:44] <persia> gerald-volt: In that case, it may help with my problem.  Where can I find it?
[06:44] <gerald-volt>  http://members.shaw.ca/bokinator/test
[06:44] <gerald-volt> that's my program
[06:44] <tamale> cafuego: It actually, unbelievably, WORKED!!!   I have a 974 GB /store mount now!!!  Thanks so much man!!
[06:44] <brenner> HoboTurtle: ask away
[06:44] <sethk> HoboTurtle, the best thing to do is ask your question.  Then, if anyone knows the answer, they will answer.
[06:44] <gerald-volt> you can also do a lsusb to see if it detected it
[06:45] <tamale> cafuego:  Tomorrow's project:  Get samba up and running ] 
[06:45] <en1gma> i waited for 225 years for games to get as good as they are now im sure i can wait a few more months for a 64bit only live cd
[06:45] <en1gma> 25years*
[06:45] <HoboTurtle> i downloaded opera ubuntu breezy version
[06:45] <HoboTurtle> and i cant install it
[06:45] <Madpilot> !tell HoboTurtle about opera
[06:45] <coz> HoboTurtle what did you try?
[06:45] <HoboTurtle> um...
[06:45] <HoboTurtle> as a beginner
[06:45] <persia> gerald-volt: Umm..  Is there source?  I'm not running i386.  My joystick does show in lsusb.
[06:45] <HoboTurtle> i typed sudo su in terminal
[06:46] <HoboTurtle> then i typed dpkg -i file.deb
[06:46] <gerald-volt> yup
[06:46] <gerald-volt> hold on, I'll put it up
[06:46] <newtype> so how do i apply the forcedeth patch
[06:46] <gerald-volt> but it's a cprogram
[06:46] <coz> hoboturtle where is the file you downloaded
[06:46] <HoboTurtle> desktop?
[06:46] <Madpilot> HoboTurtle: that should have worked, just make sure you're in the same directory as the .deb
[06:46] <persia> gerald-volt: No problems.  I have a compiler.
[06:46] <gerald-volt> k
[06:46] <coz> Ok open up the terminal
[06:46] <gerald-volt> wait
[06:46] !lilo:*! Restarting a main rotation server that's off rotation; affected users, about 1500
[06:46] <HoboTurtle> ok
[06:46] <gerald-volt> you'll need libsdl-dev
[06:46] <gerald-volt> to compile it
[06:46] <HoboTurtle> -_- ??
[06:47] <gerald-volt> whoah
[06:47] <HoboTurtle> that was beautiful...i think
[06:47] <coz> hoboturtle applicationsaccoessories terminal
[06:47] <newtype> the hell?
[06:47] <coz> applications accessories terminal
[06:47] <gerald-volt> http://members.shaw.ca/bokinator/test.c
[06:47] <gerald-volt> that's the source
[06:47] <newtype> got it
[06:47] <HoboTurtle> i got to it
[06:47] <woodgrain> hey why did all those people get kicked?
[06:47] <woodgrain> hey why did all those people get kicked?
[06:47] <garry> someone tripped over a wire.
[06:47] <HoboTurtle> it says root@ubuntu:/home/...
[06:48] <psusi> woodgrain, it's called a netsplit... the two listed servers in their quit message got disconnected
[06:48] <Madpilot> woodgrain: some server screwed up
[06:48] <coz> Hoboturtle do   ls in the terminal just type ls
[06:48] <Madpilot> HoboTurtle: you don't need to use root - just add sudo in front of the dpkg command
[06:48] <HoboTurtle> okay ls done
[06:48] <persia> gerald-volt: I'll need a bit.  I've installed libsdl-dev, but it's complaining about SDL.h.  My apologies for the delay
[06:48] <newtype> k
[06:49] <coz> HoboTurtle it is installed???
[06:49] <tkup> why is it that an apt-get dist-upgrade REMOVES packages?
[06:49] <HoboTurtle> now i type dpkg -i file.deb?
[06:49] <gerald-volt> no worries
[06:49] <sethk> tkup, usually because a newer, conflicting package is needed
[06:49] <lostblur> i've had it with totem crashing webpages and want to remove it, but removing it in synaptics also wants to remove rhythmbox which i like better than the rest.. why? and how can i avoid this?
[06:49] <coz> sudo  dpkg -i unless you are in the root
[06:49] <jawshoewah> so firefox keeps crashing is there an alternative browser for ubuntu?
[06:49] <TecnoVM64> lostblur, you could just remove that plugin
[06:49] <Madpilot> HoboTurtle: the Opera wiki page will walk you through the install
[06:49] <woodgrain> psusi, why didn't it kick me?
[06:49] <_jason> jawshoewah, epiphany-browser is one
[06:50] <coz> jawshoewah why is it crashing/
[06:50] <Hendikins|Work> You could just nail the plugin file, although that is inelegant
[06:50] <jawshoewah> anytime there is media on a page it quits itself
[06:50] <Hendikins|Work> _jason: That would have the same problem since it is Gecko based.
[06:50] <jawshoewah> ie wmv, mp3
[06:50] <lostblur> lol
[06:50] <_jason> Hendikins|Work, maybe
[06:50] <Steven_M> hi all
[06:50] <lostblur> jaws: same probelm here, its a plugin probelm. not eth browser me thinks
[06:50] <HoboTurtle> um...
[06:50] <HoboTurtle> not have worked
[06:51] <coz> HoboTurtle put the file in your home directory
[06:51] <Hendikins|Work> _jason: If it is Gecko 1.8 based, there's no maybe about it. If it is busted with 1.7...
[06:51] <Madpilot> HoboTurtle: what error message do you get?
[06:51] <TecnoVM64> remove the plugin, and the problem will dissappear
[06:51] <HoboTurtle> cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[06:51] <lostblur> tecno: i dont believ i have one installed (plug in) but why such dependency in the firts place? why would rhythmbox possibly need totem
[06:51] <lostblur> it doenst appear as if they are developed bythe smae peopel
[06:51] <gerald-volt> persia
[06:51] <Madpilot> HoboTurtle: where did you save the Opera .deb? You need to be in that exact directory when you run sudo dpkg
[06:52] <gerald-volt> try looking up the examples on sdl-config man page
[06:52] <Hendikins|Work> lostblur: Things can work strangely.
[06:52] <coz> Hoboturtle type this in terminal     cd /home/yourusername/Desktop
[06:52] <persia> gerald-volt: It doesn't work for me: it depends on my having working devices.  Sorry.  Try someone whose joystick works.
[06:52] <HoboTurtle> coz: its on the desktop
[06:52] <coz> I understand
[06:52] <psusi> woodgrain, nobody actually got kicked... just they were on the other server... you're on this one...
[06:52] <TecnoVM64> lostblur, you have to remove it manually
[06:52] <lostblur> alright in that case, where can i select defaults applications and make totem not play anything, and instead use Mplayer for example
[06:52] <woodgrain> psusi, so weird!
[06:52] <Madpilot> HoboTurtle: the line coz gave you will change directory (cd) to your Desktop directory
[06:52] <coz> just type   cd /home/your user name/ Desktop
[06:53] <Hendikins|Work> lostblur: Open about:plugins, see what the name of the plugin file is, and just remove it.
[06:53] <brenner> or ~/Desktop
[06:53] <coz> HoboTurtle OR you can move the package to your Home directory
[06:53] <newtype> ello?
[06:53] <psusi> woodgrain, the servers split, temporarily creating two isolated irc networks... everyone on the other side of the split appears to quit with the split servers in their quit message
[06:53] <psusi> woodgrain, since those users can not be reached anymore
[06:53] <Hendikins|Work> lostblur: It may be helpful to set plugin.expose_full_path to true using about:config before doing this, that gives you the full path to the plugin file.
[06:53] <HoboTurtle> k moved to home
[06:54] <coz> HoboTurtle in terminal type  sudo dpkg -i opera and then hit the tab button
[06:54] <lostblur> thanks hendikins.. looking into that now
[06:55] <HoboTurtle> yes!
[06:55] <HoboTurtle> coz it worked
[06:55] <coz> HoboTurtle then hit the "enter button
[06:55] <coz> good!!
[06:55] <Hendikins|Work> lostblur: If you need a hand, just yell. I've probably handled more Firefox support questions than you've had hot dinners :)
[06:55] <HoboTurtle> oh wait..
[06:55] <HoboTurtle> it opened the a window
[06:55] <Hendikins|Work> (in addition to plugins being my niche)
[06:55] <HoboTurtle> *file browser....
[06:55] <newtype> still needing help
[06:56] <woodgrain> psusi, did you leave?  I'm going to kick that server!
[06:56] <coz> Ok bacl to the terminal
[06:56] <newtype> me?
[06:56] <woodgrain> newtype, what do you need help with?
[06:56] <HoboTurtle> dependency problems?
[06:56] <newtype> installing the forcdeth patch
[06:56] <coz> HoboTurtle type   sudo dpkg -i opera then HIT the TAB button
[06:56] <sethk> newtype, you'll get better results if you ask a much more specific question
[06:56] <newtype> ok
[06:56] <sethk> newtype, such as "I did _ and it did _ instead of _"
[06:57] <newtype> i have the forcdeth-bk4.patch on my desktop
[06:57] <coz> HoboTurtle when you hit the tab button it should complete thename of the file
[06:57] <Madpilot> HoboTurtle: can you paste the exact error message? (if it's longer than two lines, pastebin it...)
[06:57] <newtype> need to apply it to get my ethernet to work
[06:57] <fredforfaen> morning suckers
[06:57] <coz> wHoboTurtle when the complete name of the file is in the terminal hit the enter buttn
[06:57] <sethk> newtype, ok, tell us specifically what you did, and why the results are unsatisfactory
[06:57] <HoboTurtle> dpkg: error processing opera (--install):
[06:57] <HoboTurtle>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[06:57] <charlie_> hi
[06:57] <newtype> i did nothing because i have no idea how to install anything, as i said earlier, im a complete newb to linux
[06:58] <charlie_> im a new user of ubonto
[06:58] <sethk> HoboTurtle, you can tell it to ignore the dependency problem, but the question is, why do you have dependency problems?
[06:58] <coz> HoboTurtle where did you get the file?
[06:58] <narles> movies that play in mozilla using macromedia flash player 7 don't play with sound.. how do i go about fixing this???
[06:58] <sethk> newtype, it has some instructions with it, no?
[06:58] <narles> they might be in quicktime too
[06:58] <newtype> http://www.hailfinger.org/carldani/linux/patches/forcedeth/
[06:58] <HoboTurtle> i downloaded it straight from opera site
[06:58] <newtype> no
[06:58] <Madpilot> HoboTurtle: Opera should install on Breezy with no problems - you're running x86 & not PPC or 64bit?
[06:58] <newtype> wait
[06:58] <sethk> newtype, ok, then why is it that you believe you need this patch?
[06:58] <coz> HoboTurtle hole on
[06:58] <HoboTurtle> id love to tell you if i knew
[06:58] <coz> hold on
[06:59] <charlie_> is there anyone knows how to install c++ in ubonto platform?
[06:59] <charlie_> is there anyone knows how to install c++ in ubonto platform?
[06:59] <charlie_> is there anyone knows how to install c++ in ubonto platform?
[06:59] <charlie_> is there anyone knows how to install c++ in ubonto platform?
[06:59] <charlie_> is there anyone knows how to install c++ in ubonto platform?
[06:59] <charlie_> is there anyone knows how to install c++ in ubonto platform?
[06:59] <charlie_> is there anyone knows how to install c++ in ubonto platform?
[06:59] <cafuego> !ops
[06:59] <sethk> newtype, it must have something with it, at least a readme, but perhaps you didn't find it?
[06:59] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic or nalioth
[06:59] <cafuego> charlie_: stop spamming
[06:59] <sethk> charlie_, we'll assume, perhaps, once, that you did that by accident
[06:59] <Hendikins|Work> Opera has its merits, but it isn't a solution to a broken Firefox. Just like Firefox isn't a solution to something else being broken.
[06:59] <jawshoewah> where can I hack the firefox module to to see why its quitting?
[06:59] <sethk> well, maybe we won't.  :)
[06:59] <cafuego> johndarkhorse: cheers
[06:59] <newtype> im having problems finding it, but heck, ill look for a bitp
[06:59] <newtype> ill brb
[06:59] <Hendikins|Work> jawshoewah: run firefox from an xterm? That can provide data sometimes.
[07:00] <Hendikins|Work> (Assuming you don't want to go and so something like NSPR logging)
[07:00] <jawshoewah> should i load the site from xtrem that crashes it
[07:00] <zblach> hi. i'm having a strange issue. whenever i disconnect&reconnect to my wireless network, my box locks up completely
[07:00] <sethk> Hendikins, I think he means the install, not firefox itself
[07:00] <cafuego> !ops =~ s/ or nalioth/, johndarkhorse or nalioth./
[07:00] <ubotu> OK, cafuego
[07:00] <zblach> if i do the 'sudo ifdown wlan0 && sudo ifup wlan0' combination, 4of5 times, my computer will die in less than 30 seconds
[07:00] <garry> To install C++ use Settings/Administration/Pakage Manager and look under the development, programming categories.
[07:01] <brenner> narles: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:01] <zblach> garry, he's gone
[07:01] <narles> what type of file is a .swf
[07:01] <narles> ?
[07:01] <hobbes_opus> what is the right way to get Ubuntu to print to a printer shared by a windows computer?
[07:01] <garry> zblach hehe
[07:01] <metrix> when I try to mount an nfs partition with breezy live, it always mounts it read only.. even with mount -w and rw in /etc/exports on the server
[07:01] <brenner> narles: scroll down, there's a ff sound issues section
[07:01] <Hendikins|Work> sethk: I've been up for 27 hours, forgive me if I'm slipping a touch :)
[07:01] <johndarkhorse> cafuego: a, b or c?
[07:01] <zblach> narles, swf is the compiled flash format. i think it stands for 'small web format'
[07:01] <garry> To install C++ use Settings/Administration/Pakage Manager and look under the development, programming categories.
[07:01] <metrix> when I try to mount an nfs partition with breezy live, it always mounts it read only.. even with mount -w and rw in /etc/exports on the server anyone have any good ideas what could cause this?
[07:01] <sethk> Hendikins, you aren't slipping, I just saw what he had written earlier in addition to what he just wrote
[07:01] <cafuego> johndarkhorse: I'll pick door c?
[07:01] <zblach> ubotu, tell hobbes_opus about cups
[07:02] <brenner> narles: they're flash files
[07:02] <jawshoewah> heres the error "Totem could not play 'fd://0'.
[07:02] <Hendikins|Work> sethk: heh. I'm just trying to assist.
[07:02] <Mx16> Ok so after Ubuntu loads, it says X server is not configured right and all I get is just my login
[07:02] <jawshoewah> there were no decoders found to handl;e the stream
[07:02] <coz> HoboTurtle when you downloaded this did you download the Ubuntu version?
[07:02] <sethk> Hendikins|Work, I know, I just meant that I wasn't trying to be critical.
[07:02] <tweek888> sethk, I have figured out hdc1 is my ntfs partition, I'm still unsure of how to mount it
[07:02] <Hendikins|Work> jawshoewah: so you're getting the "totem crashes Firefox" problem?
[07:03] <newtype> because my ethernet on my mobo wasnt detected
[07:03] <jawshoewah> it would appear so
[07:03] <HoboTurtle> coz: yes i did
[07:03] <sethk> tweek888, mount -r -t ntfs /dev/hdc1 /mnt/something
[07:03] <Hendikins|Work> sethk: I know, it wasn't taken as such. I do genuinely miss things from time to time.
[07:03] <hobbes_opus> zblach: I though that smb needs to be used to access windows shares?
[07:03] <coz> HbobTurtle and you are running breezy?
[07:03] <sethk> tweek888, obviously, /mnt/something is not the actual directory
[07:03] <tweek888> sethk, thanks
[07:03] <Hendikins|Work> jawshoewah: remove totem plugin, use mplayer plugin instead.
[07:03] <tweek888> correct
[07:03] <HoboTurtle> i thought i was running breezy
[07:03] <jawshoewah> is there a wiki on that?
[07:03] <HoboTurtle> arnt i? lol
[07:03] <zblach> hobbes_opus, right, but a small extension of that (cups) allows for printing to windows shared printers
[07:03] <Hendikins|Work> jawshoewah: Known issue, although I'll have to do some investigating when I get a chance.
[07:04] <sethk> HoboTurtle, I imagine you are, yes, if you installed the latest released version
[07:04] <narles> how do
[07:04] <narles> i
[07:04] <narles> Add the line:
[07:04] <narles> FIREFOX_DSP="none"
[07:04] <HoboTurtle> yes i did
[07:04] <Hendikins|Work> jawshoewah: removing the plugin is easy. rm -f [whatever is listed in about:plugins] 
[07:04] <HoboTurtle> whatever is the latest
[07:04] <Toma-> narles: whats that for?
[07:04] <tkup> alright this is it. I'm rebooting after a dist-upgrade. if I'm not back after 5 minutes, pray for me.
[07:04] <brenner> Hendikins|Work: familiar with the adblock extension? i get 'Firefox could not install this item because of a failure in Chrom Registration' after restarting
[07:05] <narles> gedit ~/.mozilla/firefox/rc
[07:05] <Hendikins|Work> jawshoewah: Setting plugin.expose_full_path to true in about:config gives you the full path.
[07:05] <Hendikins|Work> brenner: 1.5?
[07:05] <sethk> brenner, that's odd, I installed that a couple of days ago without a problem.
[07:05] <brenner> Hendikins|Work: no, default breezy version
[07:05] <zblach> anyone else having lockup issues with their wireless cards?
[07:05] <Hendikins|Work> sethk: Adblock is one of our biggest 1.5 support headaches. Trust me.
[07:05] <hobbes_opus> zblach: thks, I'll read up on cups
[07:05] <Hendikins|Work> brenner: Hrm. Any luck with AdBlock Plus?
[07:05] <sethk> Hendikins|Work, I believe you, but I haven't run into it on any of my boxes.
[07:06] <brenner> Hendikins|Work: never heard of it...
[07:06] <jawshoewah> hendikins ive copied your posts but im a bit slow
[07:06] <zblach> hobbes_opus, np
[07:06] <narles> Toma-, gedit _/.mozilla/firefox/rc
[07:06] <garry> so strange, tonight, so many seem to be having trouble with some things, most if not all of us have had no problem with.
[07:06] <Toma-> narles: i dont have an rc file there. also, just wondering what that variable sets?
[07:06] <Hendikins|Work> brenner: Don't worry, I have to check my sticky in Firefox Support to find it myself :)
[07:06] <Hendikins|Work> brenner: http://bene.sitesled.com/adblock.htm
[07:07] <brenner> ta
[07:07] <p337>  trying to install drivers for my wireless card, any idea why i get this error? http://pastebin.com/497439
[07:08] <p337> or anyone feel like walking me through the installation
[07:08] <p337> or anyone know of a page that has information on installing http://www.ralinktech.com/supp-1.htm
[07:09] <narles> toma-, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:09] <garry> Have you done apt-get install build-essentials
[07:09] <narles> toma-, i'm following the directions for fixing macromedia sound
[07:09] <p337> i followed the readme exactly.... no luck
[07:09] <Hendikins|Work> brenner: Don't know that it will fix the problem since I haven't used the Ubuntu build much/at all (I'm not an Ubuntu user!), but I wouldn't use the original Adblock in the first place.
[07:10] <brenner> Hendikins|Work: really?  i've never had any problems with it in the past
[07:10] <brenner> i must've borked something somewhere
[07:10] <sethk> p337, it isn't in the correct directory.  Not sure how it got that way, though.
[07:10] <narles> toma-, the section called flash issues, in the flash player section
[07:10] <jawshoewah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6826
[07:11] <jawshoewah> that s my firefox error
[07:11] <jawshoewah> from xterm
[07:11] <Hendikins|Work> brenner: It is known to cause hangs, crashes and memory leaks in 1.5. I personally use squidGuard as an ad blocker...
[07:11] <brenner> Hendikins|Work: i see.  interesting
[07:11] <theblue> Hi all.
[07:12] <theblue> Is there a way to play .gsm files at the command line?
[07:12] <Hendikins|Work> jawshoewah: Yeah. scrap the totem plugin.
[07:12] <sethk> Hendikins, is squidGuard available on the firefox add on site, or do you download it from elsewhere?
[07:13] <Hendikins|Work> brenner: It is also known to interfere with the operation of some plugins. Flash, Java, ActiveX (Win32), QuickTime (Win32)
[07:13] <jawshoewah>  rm -f is that the syntaxt?
[07:13] <jawshoewah> what is the path to the folder?
[07:13] <Hendikins|Work> sethk: squidGuard is a redirector for the squid proxy server. It isn't a firefox addon.
[07:13] <sethk> Hendikins, oh, ok, I guess I wasn't paying attention.  :)
[07:13] <brenner> Hendikins|Work: ab+ installed fine.  thanks for the suggestion
[07:14] <p337> ok... i got past that... http://pastebin.com/497450 the new problem
[07:14] <Hendikins|Work> jawshoewah: Open about:config, enter plugin.expose_full_path in the filter box. Only one item should appear in the list. Double-click it to set it to true. Then load about:plugins and it will tell you the full path to the plugin file.
[07:15] <Hendikins|Work> brenner: Thanks for the heads up, I'll file that tidbit of info away. Never know when it might come in useful.
[07:15] <tkup> how can I check for the currently installed ubuntu version?
[07:16] <sethk> p337, forward slashes on real computers, not back slashes
[07:16] <garry> tkup, in terminal do rname
[07:16] <jawshoewah> about:config command not found in xterm
[07:16] <Hendikins|Work> sethk: Using squid + squidGuard to block ads is somewhat akin to using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut.
[07:16] <Hendikins|Work> jawshoewah: open that *in Firefox*
[07:16] <sethk> Hendikins|Work, I don't use squid, but I'm sure you are correct.
[07:16] <jawshoewah> thats pretty neat
[07:17] <tkup> garry, rname is not a command. apt-get can't find it
[07:17] <p337> sethk: i dont even think i was supposed to use that switch... but even if i dont i get the same error
[07:17] <garry> tkup ok, I am giong to check.
[07:17] <Hendikins|Work> sethk: I use squid for other reasons, squidGuard is just a logical extension. It works very well transparently though. If you need a network-wide or multi-useragent solution, it is great (and the caching is handy too)
[07:17] <sethk> p337, there is no way you can get kerneldriversnet (concatenated like that) without supplying it somewhere.  configure doesn't invent strings of that sort.
[07:18] <garry> tkup uname -r
[07:18] <tkup> garry, not the kernel version, the ubuntu version i.e. 5.10 or 5.04
[07:18] <garry> tkup that will give you the kernel version, breezy version is 5.0 I believe.
[07:18] <HoboTurtle> yes!
[07:19] <HoboTurtle> i got a russian to help me out!
[07:19] <garry> not sure, then sorry.
[07:19] <HoboTurtle> wooooooooot
[07:19] <narles> toma-,  you around?
[07:19] <garry> tkup going to try to find out/
[07:19] <jawshoewah> about:config doesnt have a listing for totem that i see
[07:19] <p337> sethk:  i dont get what you are saying it shows up as Module install directory : /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/net to me
[07:19] <sethk> Hendikins|Work, I don't not use it because I have anything against it, I don't use it because I wrote my own before it existed.
[07:19] <Toma-> i am now. sorta. setting up an NX
[07:19] <tkup> garry, just checked "About Ubuntu" in System it barely mentions that it's 5.10. but thought I would find it somewhere else
[07:19] <Hendikins|Work> sethk: heh.
[07:19] <sethk> p337, in that case, you can't get the same error.
[07:20] <fealz> how view hidden files in a terminal?
[07:20] <Hendikins|Work> jawshoewah: enter plugin.expose_full_path in the filter box. Only one item should appear in the list. Double-click it to set it to true. Then load about:plugins.
[07:20] <p337> ok ill paste this one
[07:20] <sethk> p337, you said you get the same error, which would mean you get an error message with kerneldriversnet with no slashes in it.
[07:20] <Hendikins|Work> about:plugins gives you a list of all your plugins
[07:20] <timfrost> tkup, cat /etc/issue
[07:20] <garry> tkup  doh, yep, you are correct.
[07:20] <fealz> how do i navigate to a hidden directory using the terminal?
[07:20] <jawshoewah> ahh sorry
[07:21] <fealz> anyone know?
[07:21] <timfrost> fealz, ls -a shows the hidden files (ones starting with '.')
[07:21] <fealz> thanks a lot timfrost
[07:21] <p337> sethk: http://pastebin.com/497456
[07:21] <tkup> timfrost, ah thanks!
[07:21] <tkup> garry, thanks as well
[07:22] <sethk> p337, i'd have to see the configure file.  almost always that sort of error is caused by an undefined macro.
[07:22] <p337> should i paste the configure file?
[07:22] <Odus> Alright, goodnight.
[07:23] <sethk> p337, if you like, sure, I'll take a look at it.  it may or may not help, but you have nothing to lose.
[07:23] <p337> aight
[07:24] <jawshoewah> ty that worked like a charm
[07:24] <p337> sethk: http://pastebin.com/497463
[07:24] <Nox_> Hi
[07:24] <Nox_> Anyone have a tv card installed can take a min to help me?
[07:25] <sethk> p337, what was the line number again?  I closed the previous paste.
[07:25] <garry> tkup welcome. I found no info on getting the  version of the OS. I did find an interesting command called info. Seems to give some info on packages installed.
[07:25] <p337> http://pastebin.com/497456
[07:26] <MrPockets> dfsz
[07:26] <p337> sethk:  where is that install directory it is talking about? or i guess where does it expect it to be?
[07:26] <narles> anyone know how to do this?
[07:26] <narles> Open:
[07:26] <narles> gedit ~/.mozilla/firefox/rc
[07:26] <narles> Add the line:
[07:26] <narles> FIREFOX_DSP="none"
[07:26] <sethk> p337, wherever the source is unpacked.
[07:26] <sethk> p337, ordinarily the same directory that configure is run from, although not always
[07:26] <p337> sethk:  cause idont think i ever copied Makefile
[07:26] <Nox_> How do i install a TV card on unbuntu ? I instaled TvTime but i get no signal :(
[07:27] <coz> hell again
[07:27] <sethk> p337, no, the makefile is generated by ./configure
[07:27] <p337> ah
[07:27] <coz> I would like to configure an application and I am really bad at this
[07:27] <brenner> tkup: all due respect, how can you not know what ver. of an OS you've installed?
[07:27] <n0dl> NOOO i broke the install '_________________;
[07:27] <n0dl> coz: i can fold my shirt in three steps! w00t
[07:27] <coz> n0dl hey guy congrats
[07:28] <brenner> narles: open a terminal and type that gedit command
[07:28] <coz> no more T-reex to worry about
[07:28] <sethk> p337, I see what's happening.  when it asks for the linux kernel source directory, you have to give it the linux kernel source directory.  Either you, or some script, is giving it "make install"
[07:28] <brenner> narles: you're basicaly editing a text file
[07:28] <p337> i dont think i ever unpacked the linux source directory...
[07:28] <Nox_> Hi , I need help installing my TV card , i get No siglal error while using TvTime. How do i install the tv card ? Thanks.
[07:28] <p337> i was supposed to earlier.... but then someone said all i needed was the header or something
[07:28] <tritium> Nox_: which card?  Are you sure it's supported?
[07:29] <tkup> brenner, I just went through a dist-upgrade and had received some errors and warnings. After many retries, I wasn't convinced that I fully upgraded hoary to breezy. Hence, the need to know convincingly that it's been updated.
[07:29] <p337> sethk: do i need to unpack that?
[07:29] <sethk> p337, you did, or a script you ran did, because configure is inside the source directory
[07:29] <Nox_> Not sure of the exact model , give me a min i will check but this is a recent tv tuner from a know compagny , sec
[07:29] <sethk> p337, no, you can't get this far without first unpacking
[07:29] <p337> oh ok
[07:29] <brenner> tkup: i see.  good answer. :)
[07:29] <tkup> garry, the file /etc/issue contains the name of the release to some extent
[07:29] <sethk> p337, are you typing "make install" ?
[07:29] <p337> yes
[07:30] <garry> tkup Thanks, n ice to know.
[07:30] <p337> sethk: yes
[07:30] <brenner> tkup: so was the upgrade successul?
[07:30] <sethk> p337, it looks like, where you type that, you should be typing something like /usr/src/..... (wherever the kernel source lives)
[07:31] <brenner> guess so :)
[07:31] <tritium> garry: lsb_release -a also provides release info
[07:31] <sethk> p337, ubuntu keeps the kernel source in a different directory (different than all the other distros)
[07:31] <p337> sethk: -r'\kernel\drivers\net ?
[07:31] <garry> tkup  as long as you have changed your sync and urls in apt-get config from hoary to breezy you syould be fine
[07:31] <sethk> p337, no -r, no backslashes, and that's a _driver_ directory, you want the kernel source directory
[07:31] <garry> tritium thanks. :)
[07:31] <tritium> :)
[07:31] <sethk> p337, first, do you have the kernel source installed?
[07:32] <p337> sethk: .....i dont know
[07:32] <narles> brenner, but that rc is blank when i type in that first 'open
[07:32] <narles> brenner, command
[07:32] <sethk> p337, go into synaptic and find and install it.  If it is already installed, you'll see that in synaptic
[07:32] <p337> sethk, oh.. i am using kubuntu if that matters
[07:33] <p337> sethk: but i know thats the same as adept
[07:33] <sethk> p337, for this case kubuntu and ubuntu are identical
[07:33] <brenner> narles: that's ok, you're creating the file
[07:33] <p337> sethk: is it linux-source?
[07:33] <brenner> *it means you're
[07:34] <sethk> p337, that doesn't sound right.  I'm pretty sure you'll find the word "kernel" in the package name
[07:34] <Nox_> Tritium You still here?
[07:34] <p337> sethk: kernel-package?
[07:35] <sethk> p337, keep going.  the kernel _source_ is in a separate package.
[07:35] <saif> why ubuntu auto dialing at startup
[07:35] <Se7h> hi everyone
[07:35] <saif> i want to disable it
[07:35] <jawshoewah> whats the best way to list all programs installed on a machine
[07:35] <p337> sethk: doesnt find anything for kernel source
[07:35] <sethk> p337, let me check the nname
[07:35] <p337> sethk: ok
[07:36] <brenner> jawshoewah: easy way is thru synaptic
[07:36] <Hendikins|Work> jawshoewah: Wouldn't synaptic be the best bet (assuming you used packages for everything)?
[07:36] <saif> let me know
[07:36] <Nox_> Tritium You here?
[07:36] <Se7h> i have some deb packages that would be great to have on repository (python module)
[07:36] <saif> how can i disable auto dial while starting ubuntu
[07:36] <garry> p337, I am concerned, I'm wondering why you are recompiling source. Many of us  have found it unnecessary to recompile in situations where other distros might require it.
[07:36] <Hendikins|Work> saif: doesn't it do a clock sync on startup? Disable that, because that is probably what triggers the auto-dial. That, or simply don't reboot.
[07:37] <Nox_> My tv card is a WinTV go , How can i install it?
[07:37] <p337> garry: recompiling what? the stuff for wireless?
[07:37] <sethk> p337, on my box I have kernel-source-2.6.11 and kernel-source-2.6.10
[07:37] <p337> sethk: mine says linux-source-2.6.12
[07:37] <HaiKarate> .
[07:37] <sethk> p337, good.  But you said you didn't have one.  :)
[07:37] <sethk> p337, do uname -a, make sure you are running 2.6.12
[07:38] <Se7h> i have some deb packages that would be great to have on repository (python module). Is it possible in any way to get it there by some admins or smthing?
[07:38] <Se7h> (sorry for the copy)
[07:38] <sethk> Se7h, sure.  look at the web page and find someone to email
[07:38] <p337> 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Thu Dec 22 11:37:10 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:38] <garry> p337 there was tlak of kernel compiling, now I see, if i understand, you are wanting to recompile the wireless driver, and need the kernel source avail.
[07:38] <Nox_> can i get some help plz
[07:38] <Nox_> My tv card is a WinTV go , How can i install it?? Thanks.
[07:38] <p337> garry: i think that is it
[07:38] <p337> sethk: it says it is installed though
[07:39] <garry> p337 do you remember installing build-essentials?
[07:39] <p337> garry: yeah
[07:39] <sethk> p337, in that case, you need to type the kernel source path where you were typing "make install" before
[07:39] <sethk> p337, look in /usr/src and find the source directory name
[07:39] <persia> Se7h: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUNewSoftware
[07:39] <holycow> wtf?
[07:39] <holycow> dapper flight 2 cd is kubuntu?
[07:39] <fusionfox> how can i upgrade from Horay to Breezy?
[07:40] <p337> sethk: does it matter if it is just linux headers
[07:40] <holycow> let me check that again
[07:40] <jawshoewah> i guess my real question is when at xtrem one types $firefox and bang firefox is manifested.......where does $ look for these programs?
[07:40] <p337> sethk: linux source is there, but it is compressed
[07:40] <sethk> p337, ok, then extract it.  you know how?
[07:40] <sethk> p337, extract it into /usr/src.  then configure should find it without asking you for the path
[07:40] <persia> fusionfox: Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, and change hoary to breezy everywhere.
[07:40] <garry> p337 good, then all ye need to do is get the source installed and I think you only need to recompile the driver itself, I'm not sure, but its been that way when I had to compile nvidia drivers, it needed kernel source, but not a kernel recompile.
[07:40] <sethk> p337, hopefully, anyway.  you have to extract it regardless.
[07:41] <Nox_> Can i get some kind of answer ..
[07:41] <holycow> hey does anyone want to confirm for me whether or not dapper flight two is supposed to be running kde?
[07:41] <sethk> garry, that's correct.  he needs the source but he doesn't have to build the source.
[07:41] <p337> sethk,  i think last time i tried i got permission denied, how do i do it from command line so i can use sudo
[07:41] <sethk> Nox_, follow the instructions in the readme file
[07:41] <Nox_> How can i install my winTV-Go Tv tuner ? THanks.
[07:41] <sethk> p337, why can't you use sudo?
[07:41] <Myrtti> fusionfox: backup your /home first
[07:41] <Nox_> What readme >< its a hardware card huh
[07:41] <garry> seth yep, if ye mean build the kernel source.
[07:41] <brenner> jawshoewah: it searches dirs such as /usr/bin and other such dirs that store executables.
[07:41] <p337> sethk: from konqueror, i cannot
[07:41] <p337> sethk: how do you unzip something from command line?
[07:41] <sethk> p337, then do it from the command line.
[07:42] <p337> lol.. yeah
[07:42] <persia> Nox_: If your hardware is supported, you'll probably get the best information by searching for v4l and v4l2.
[07:42] <sethk> p337, it is probably a tar.bz2
[07:42] <p337> sethk: yep
[07:42] <sethk> p337, if so, you type:  tar xvjf whatever.tar.bz2
[07:42] <jawshoewah> ahh so I can go through my /usr/bin to see what exactly is installed to start
[07:42] <p337> ah
[07:42] <p337> sethk: what is xvjf for?
[07:42] <jawshoewah> other than obvious places like applications
[07:42] <sethk> p337, x means extract, v means verbose, j means uncompress with bzip2, and f means you have a tar file.
[07:43] <p337> sethk: ah thanks
[07:43] <sethk> p337, f is an anachronism.  tar means "tape archiver" and without an f it looks for a tape drive
[07:43] <scottt106> Can anyone help me setup a MN-510 usb NIC?
[07:43] <p337> sethk: ah...
[07:43] <narles> can't get sound working with macromedia flash player.. ubuntu forum solutions are no help.. any suggestions?
[07:44] <Linuturk> I don't think my video card is working correctly. Can anyone give me some pointers? It's an Nvidia . . .
[07:44] <garry> I am not sure, the sound is supported in flash yet, I think only video when it comes to linux.
[07:44] <p337> sethk: woo extracting
[07:44] <p337> sethk: ok thats all done, do i go and do make install again?
[07:45] <HoboTurtle> YO
[07:45] <HoboTurtle> haha
[07:45] <Kool-Aid> Hey HoboTurtle
[07:45] <brenner> jawshoewah: it's one way i guess.  albeit a really messy one.  why do you need to see every app that's installed?
[07:45] <Kool-Aid> ehhehehehhehe
[07:45] <HoboTurtle> hello
[07:45] <sethk> p337, try it.  ordinarily configure is run first, but if that's what the instructions call for, then yes, do that.
[07:45] <garry> Linuturk system/adminstration/package manager search for nvidia.
[07:45] <Kool-Aid> HoboTurtle, are these people being helpful?
[07:45] <HoboTurtle> yes
[07:45] <HoboTurtle> very
[07:45] <Kool-Aid> =)
[07:45] <p337> sethk: yeah it says make config first
[07:45] <Linuturk> garry, what am I installing?
[07:45] <HoboTurtle> but im stuck at the dependency problem
[07:46] <HoboTurtle> im like reading some man stuff
[07:46] <Kool-Aid> If Slackware died tomorrow then Ubuntu would be my first choice
[07:46] <garry> say Linuturk the driver for nvidia that will enable hardware accelleration.
[07:46] <jawshoewah> i somehow got xawtv into my sound-media folder in desktop it crashes comptuer when I click it while testing tv in card i want to just us e tv time and get rid of it
[07:46] <p337> sethk: seems like the same error
[07:46] <p337> sethk: make: binary operator expected
[07:46] <sethk> p337, then you'll have to type in the directory name.
[07:46] <sethk> p337, if you type "make install" at that point, you'll always get the same result
[07:47] <p337> sethk: ah.. what directory?
[07:47] <garry> Linuturk unless you've already installed it.
[07:47] <Linuturk> garry, does it support the geforce4 440 go?
[07:47] <sethk> p337, it prompts you for the kernel source directory.  give it the kernel source directory
[07:47] <p337> sethk: oh
[07:47] <garry> Linuturk hmmm, I do not know. should be info on getting a driver at www.nvidia.com
[07:47] <p337> sethk: so like make usr/src.linux-source-2.6.12/install ?
[07:48] <sethk> p337, I'm not sure I don't have it in front of me.  However, /usr, not just usr.
[07:48] <narles> can't get sound working with macromedia flash player.. ubuntu forum solutions are no help.. any suggestions?
[07:48] <persia> Linuturk: What sort of problem are you having?
[07:48] <p337> sethk: alright
[07:48] <sethk> p337, normally the argument to make is a target.
[07:48] <scottt106> Can anyone help me setup a MN-510 usb NIC?
[07:48] <sethk> p337, what I saw in the configure script is that it prompts for the kernel path.  that may be hidden within a script.
[07:49] <Linuturk> persia, not any problems, persay, but I want to make sure it's working to it's fullest. It got laggy when I was working on stuff, and that happened in windows before the drivers were installed.
[07:49] <blood> how do i install an rpm?
[07:49] <Hendikins|Work> You could use alien, if that is provided
[07:50] <blood> alien installs rpm?
[07:50] <Linuturk> http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html << are the drivers there already in the package manager?
[07:50] <Hendikins|Work> alien converts to different package formats
[07:51] <blood> is alien free?
[07:51] <persia> Linuturk: Understood.  There are some drivers that are installed by default.  For your card, you would want the nvidia-glx-legacy package for hardware acceleration.  If this doesn't work properly, you may also need to install and compile the nvidia-legacy-kernel-source package.  Best of luck!
[07:51] <Hendikins|Work> Yes.
[07:51] <p337> sethk: nothing is working
[07:51] <paulproteus> blood: apt-get install alien.
[07:51] <Kool-Aid> HoboTurtle, you there?
[07:51] <HoboTurtle> yea
[07:51] <paulproteus> !doesntwork
[07:51] <fusionfox> what was the command to save and quit with vim??
[07:51] <ubotu> paulproteus: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:51] <Kool-Aid> HoboTurtle, which application are you wanting to install?
[07:51] <HoboTurtle> opera
[07:51] <garry> Linuturk, should be. if you choose the wrong driver, it should refuse to install and tell you the card is not supported by the driver you are trying.
[07:51] <HoboTurtle> still
[07:51] <sethk> p337, try the normal way to install source, which is:  ./configure
[07:51] <Kool-Aid> Someone tell HoboTurtle how to use that apt-get thingy
[07:51] <persia> fusionfox: :wq
[07:51] <sethk> p337, as step one.  in the source directory.  assuming you know where that is
[07:51] <Linuturk> garry, from the site, or from the package manager?
[07:51] <Madpilot> HoboTurtle: you still having no joy w/ Opera?
[07:51] <fusionfox> persia, thx
[07:52] <Kool-Aid> I am not too familiar with it since I am on slackware
[07:52] <HoboTurtle> apt-get install opera?
[07:52] <HoboTurtle> no not yet
[07:52] <Madpilot> HoboTurtle: have you read the Opera wiki page?
[07:52] <holycow> HoboTurtle, sudo dpkg -i operapackage.deb
[07:52] <garry> Linuturk the manager, the drivers are pre-compiled and optomized for breezy.
[07:52] <HoboTurtle> its some dependency problem...says
[07:53] <Linuturk> garry, nvidia-glx looks like the right one. or am i way off base?
[07:53] <p337> sethk, http://pastebin.com/497474
[07:53] <holycow> HoboTurtle, then try to install the dependency
[07:53] <garry> I think you are on the right track
[07:53] <Kool-Aid> Doesn't Debian/Ubuntu package management resolve dependencies?
[07:53] <HoboTurtle> how can i do that holycow?
[07:53] <garry> sorry that was meant for Linuturk
[07:53] <persia> Linuturk: You have an older card.  You need the nvidia-glx-legacy package.
[07:53] <fusionfox> persia, i cant get it to work.... cant save with vim...
[07:54] <holycow> look for what dependency it is looking for, then search for it on apt with apt-cache search whatever
[07:54] <sethk> p337, make /usr/src/linux-2.6.12-10-386 a symbolic link to the actually kernel source directory.
[07:54] <holycow> then try to install what you think it needs
[07:54] <Madpilot> HoboTurtle: what's the exact depend error?
[07:54] <liable> p337: why dont you just install the kernel headers? now you need to make your own with the kernel source
[07:54] <garry> Cheers at persia.
[07:54] <p337> sethk: i have that to
[07:54] <Linuturk> persia, the geforce4 440 Go 64mb is older?
[07:54] <p337> err liable i mean
[07:54] <persia> fusionfox: What type of error do you get?  You should be able to press escape, press colon, press w, press q, press enter to save and quit.
[07:54] <sethk> p337, then what you extracted is not the kernel source
[07:54] <garry> it is older.
[07:54] <Kool-Aid> someone explain to HoboTurtle about how to copy and paste in linux
[07:55] <p337> i have both in usr/src
[07:55] <Kool-Aid> HoboTurtle is new as you can get
[07:55] <Kool-Aid> =)
[07:55] <HoboTurtle> oh they know :P
[07:55] <liable> p337: do you have a link from /lib/modules/build, to your kernel-headers?
[07:55] <fusionfox> persia, non error just cant put commads oh let me try like you say
[07:55] <Linuturk> persia, the geforce4 chipset isn't listed under that package. and it says if it isn't listed, don't use that driver
[07:55] <Kool-Aid> HoboTurtle, you can post your errors in here http://www.rafb.net/paste/
[07:55] <persia> Linuturk: I could be mistaken.  There is a note in the package about GeForce.  The newer package may also work for you.
[07:55] <garry> Linuturk, there should be archive categories.
[07:56] <liable> p337: err, i missed adir there /lib/modules/yourkernel/build
[07:56] <Linuturk> persia, i think geforce != geforce4
[07:56] <garry> He has the option of downloading linux driver from nvidia, but I don't recalll how to install it afterwards.
[07:57] <sethk> liable, kernel source, not modules
[07:57] <HoboTurtle> now i am seriously lost
[07:57] <p337> liable: yes there is
[07:57] <liable> sethk: no, this is for the headers.
[07:57] <Madpilot> HoboTurtle: have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser through?
[07:57] <sethk> liable, the headers aren't in /lib/modules
[07:57] <persia> Linuturk: If GeForce ne GeForce4, then nvidia-glx should work for you.
[07:57] <fusionfox> persia, when i try to put apt-get  i get this E: Type 'cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] /' Unknown in line  1 from list sources /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:57] <Linuturk> how do I restart the xserver? there is a key sequence, right?
[07:58] <liable> p337: sethk its a link..
[07:58] <HoboTurtle> says cannot access archive
[07:58] <p337> liable: yeah, its there
[07:58] <narles> can't get sound working with macromedia flash player.. ubuntu forum solutions are no help.. any suggestions?
[07:59] <persia> Linuturk: Ctrl-Alt-Bksp
[07:59] <persia> fusionfox: I don't use the CDs, and am not sure how to solve that.  Sorry.
[07:59] <liable> p337: do a ls in the dir you are in, then run make again, and paste it
[07:59] <p337> liable:
[07:59] <p337> liable: ok
[08:00] <Linuturk> it works way better now
[08:00] <Linuturk> thanks guys
[08:00] <Madpilot> HoboTurtle: what says that? (I'm not trying to be dense, but all the detail you can provide will make things easier to get help...)
[08:00] <garry> Yay, grats!
[08:01] <HoboTurtle> can i paste the whole thing?
[08:01] <p337> liable:  what do you mean by do a make?
[08:01] <Madpilot> !paste
[08:01] <ubotu> well, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[08:01] <p337> liable: ... lol i mean run make
[08:01] <Linuturk> garry, what's a good heavy graphic's program to test it out?
[08:01] <blood> sudo alien /dir/file -d (to change to a .deb?)
[08:01] <Kool-Aid> HoboTurtle, use this site http://www.rafb.net/paste/
[08:01] <gerald-volt> persia, did you get it to work?
[08:01] <HoboTurtle> root@ubuntu:/home/williamjlee# sudo dpkg -i opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb.deb
[08:01] <HoboTurtle> dpkg: error processing opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb.deb (--install):
[08:01] <HoboTurtle>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[08:01] <HoboTurtle> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:01] <HoboTurtle>  opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb.deb
[08:01] <HoboTurtle> root@ubuntu:/home/williamjlee#
[08:01] <Kool-Aid> Oh, that's short enough
[08:02] <Madpilot> HoboTurtle: first of all, you don't need root - just sudo is enough...
[08:02] <garry> Linuturk, Screen Saver Noof, and other intensive ones like atlantis and xfireworks.
[08:02] <HoboTurtle> Madpilot, well i dont know how to get rid of it :P
[08:02] <fusionfox> persia, i just modified my apt-get list sources, is there another thing to do besides "apt-get update and upgrade"?
[08:02] <Madpilot> HoboTurtle: close the terminal window you're using
[08:02] <liable> p337: what are you running to get the error? configure?
[08:02] <Kool-Aid> HoboTurtle, 'exit'
[08:02] <HoboTurtle> haha Kool-Aid
[08:02] <garry> shouldn't that be dist-upgrade. Correct me if I'm wrong folks.
[08:02] <HoboTurtle> thanks lots
[08:03] <HoboTurtle> aigh closed...
[08:03] <Kool-Aid> sudo is same as su, right?
[08:03] <Madpilot> HoboTurtle: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ <-- use that for future pastes, and just provide the URL here
[08:03] <Madpilot> !root
[08:03] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:03] <persia> fusionfox: You probably want to use dist-upgrade instead of upgrade, as otherwise it may not work.  To take advantage of the new features, you probably want to make sure that ubuntu-desktop is installed first, as otherwise you may not get the new packages.
[08:03] <p337> liable: let me get the link to the directions, ill show you the whole thing
[08:04] <gerald-volt> Can someone with a joystick help me test a program I wrote in C?
[08:04] <JoeBlow> hey can someone help me make a swap partition on my harddrive, linux wont let me make more then 4 partitions
[08:05] <HoboTurtle> brb
[08:05] <garry> You should be able to create an extended partition, you can only have four primary partitions.
[08:05] <HoboTurtle> gotta drain the lizzard
[08:05] <liable> JoeBlow: you need to make an extended partition, or you can just make a swapfile
[08:05] <JoeBlow> liable, how do i make an extended partitions?
[08:05] <p337> liable: sethk: http://pastebin.com/497482
[08:05] <garry> yeah, a swapfile sounds like a better idea
[08:05] <writer>  HoboTurtle: I have a problem with Opera too
[08:05] <JoeBlow> how do i do it?
[08:05] <Linuturk> anything else more intense?
[08:06] <liable> JoeBlow: with whatever tool you have for making partitions
[08:06] <JoeBlow> liable, gparted, doesnt work right for me
[08:06] <garry> I I don't know about swap file making, but for partition, cfdisk /dev/devicename
[08:06] <HoboTurtle> okay
[08:06] <HoboTurtle> writer, at least you are more experienced
[08:07] <garry> If you have room for another, if you have to resize you'll have to use a parttion editor
[08:07] <sethk> garry, swap partitions, the same way.  Normally you only use a swap file for an unexpected temporary need for additional virtual memory.
[08:07] <Kool-Aid> JoeBlow, http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Partition.html
[08:07] <JoeBlow> garry, so cfdisk, /dev/sda
[08:07] <Kool-Aid> JoeBlow, google is your friend
[08:07] <Kool-Aid> JoeBlow, learn to use google
[08:07] <Kool-Aid> =)
[08:07] <garry> JoeBlow Yep
[08:08] <garry> seth Yep, going to have to look that up. Thanks for info on the swap file stuff.
[08:08] <writer> HoboTurtle: Opera good work on Ubuntu 5.04 but on 5.10 other library
[08:08] <liable> p337: wow, thats a retarded driver.. where are you getting stuck? paste the output of ls -a
[08:08] <JoeBlow> garry, says fatal error, could open drives or something
[08:08] <HoboTurtle> lucky u at least u know what u are talking about
[08:08] <HoboTurtle> i am lost all the way
[08:08] <p337> liable: well i am starting over
[08:09] <JoeBlow> garry, ohh ok, got it
[08:09] <garry> JoeBlow Good. :)
[08:09] <Madpilot> writer: funny, I had trouble on 5.04 w/ Opera, but none on 5.10...
[08:09] <Linuturk> garry, fireworkx runs slow
[08:09] <JoeBlow> garry, but it reads alot of my empty space as "unusable"
[08:10] <tweek888> I kind of edited /etc/mtab without saving, is there a way to regenerate the file? :\
[08:10] <tweek888> without backing up*
[08:10] <garry> JoeBlow hmmm, that don't sound right. Hmmm, could it be foreign partitions that need to be removed.
[08:11] <liable> p337: well, when you get stuck, paste the entire output from where you started to paster.
[08:11] <writer> I worked with Opera on the Hoary. Very nice
[08:11] <p337> liable: alright
[08:11] <Linuturk> if my card can handle half life 2 on windows, shouldn't it handle the fireworkx screensaver fine?
[08:11] <persia> tweek888: You can find most of the information in /proc/mounts, but the files are a little different.
[08:11] <garry> Linuturk yes, it does, that is normal. It even runs slow on my Nvidia 6800 Ultra OC. That' s why its a good benchmark.
[08:12] <tweek888> ok thanks persia
[08:12] <Linuturk> well, good. I got worried there for a minute
[08:12] <garry> Linuturk different methods of addressing card, one is open gl, other is directx.
[08:12] <HoboTurtle> hey Kool-Aid
[08:13] <HoboTurtle> why isnt this working out for me
[08:13] <HoboTurtle> :(
[08:13] <Linuturk> linux uses open gl
[08:13] <Linuturk> windows uses directx
[08:13] <Madpilot> HoboTurtle: have you installed .debs before?
[08:13] <garry> yep
[08:15] <Linuturk> so, directx > open gl
[08:15] <HoboTurtle> no i have never done it before Madpilot
[08:15] <liable> p337: i am sure i have build modules for that card for someone, and there was a sourceforge project for them. trying to find it now..
[08:15] <p337> liable:  oh ok... cool.. i got stuck btw....
[08:16] <Linuturk> will directx always be windows only?
[08:16] <Madpilot> HoboTurtle: OK - it's not hard, usually, you just have to be exact on the command line - first off, have you read that Opera wiki page?
[08:16] <garry> Might be, but I've seen some truly awesome effects in open-gl
[08:16] <Xnos> hello... i use vcdimager and it seems that generate invalid cue and bin images... this because i try to burn with nerlinux and baker
[08:16] <HoboTurtle> yes
[08:16] <p337> liable: http://pastebin.com/497486
[08:16] <HoboTurtle> oh hold on, i got a new message
[08:16] <Xnos> someone have the same... trouble
[08:16] <Xnos> sorry my english
[08:16] <Linuturk> garry, can you point me to some?
[08:17] <HoboTurtle> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6828
[08:18] <JoeBlow> it doesnt matter waht prog i used, or how many times i do, when i change one of my partitions to swap, afte ri change it, linux puts it back to whatever it was
[08:18] <garry> Linuturk, it runs under kde only, but its called Euphoria. You can have kde and gnome on ubuntu btw. I got the kde from package manager.
[08:18] <Madpilot> HoboTurtle: in a terminal, do "sudo apt-get install xlibs"
[08:18] <timfrost> p337, at the prompt 'Linux kernel source directory [/usr/src/linux-2.6.12-10-386] ', just hit ENTER
[08:18] <Linuturk> i sorta loathe kde, anything that'll run in gnome?
[08:18] <liable> p337: cp ./Makefile ./.
[08:18] <garry> JoeBlow, are you using the w command to write the table when you are done?
[08:19] <JoeBlow> garry, no, how do i do it?
[08:19] <Kool-Aid> HoboTurtle, find Ubuntu packages for xlib6g, xlibs, libqt3-mt and libqt3c102-mt.  Looks as that you'll have to install those packages manually
[08:19] <Madpilot> Linuturk: gnome & kde apps will run in the other DE, no problem
[08:19] <p337> liable: cp: `./Makefile' and `././Makefile' are the same file
[08:19] <garry> JoeBlow if you are using cfdisk just highlight write, or if fdisk just hit the w key.
[08:20] <HoboTurtle> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6829
[08:20] <Linuturk> garry, i just googled Euphoria, but i got lots back. do you have a specific link?
[08:20] <Kool-Aid> HoboTurtle, check this site out.... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78626.html
[08:20] <p337> timfrost: Linux source tree '/usr/src/linux-2.6.12-10-386' is incomplete or missing!
[08:20] <garry> say Linuturk it comes with kde.
[08:20] <p337> liable: says thats the same file
[08:21] <JoeBlow> garry, ok, did that, didnt work
[08:21] <Madpilot> HoboTurtle: hmm, nice set of error messages! :P Sorry, I've got no idea what most of that means...
[08:21] <Linuturk> garry, o i misread
[08:21] <Kool-Aid> HoboTurtle, copy and paste those lines....
[08:21] <garry> JoeBlow ye might have to reboot or do a /sync
[08:21] <timfrost> liable, p337 is issuing p337, try speciifying /usr/src/linux-2.6.12 at that prompt.
[08:22] <HoboTurtle> Kool-Aid: lol, says i need to apt-get -f install something
[08:22] <p337> timfrost: you mean make /usr/src/linux-2.6.12/install
[08:22] <p337> ?
[08:22] <HoboTurtle> Kool-Aid: what the hell am i supposed to fix....
[08:22] <Kool-Aid> HoboTurtle, follow the steps on that link
[08:22] <Kool-Aid> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-78626.html
[08:22] <garry> joeBlow you might have to sudo cfdisk /dev/devicename
[08:23] <p337> timfrost: if so... that gets an error too
[08:23] <timfrost>  p337, no.  the prompt is asking for the directory name.  That is  /usr/src/linux-2.6.12
[08:24] <p337> timfrost: oh ok
[08:24] <garry> joeBlow you might have to sudo cfdisk /dev/devicename
[08:24] <timfrost> p337, the configure process is gathering ionformation, and needs input from you.  You need to answer the questions.
[08:24] <JoeBlow> garry, yea did that
[08:24] <JoeBlow> and did write
[08:25] <sobersabre> hi guys... is there ubuntu developers chan on irc ?
[08:25] <garry> say JoeBlow is it working now?
[08:25] <JoeBlow> garry, it reads it in cfdisk, but not in fstab
[08:25] <garry> JoeBlow it was for a swap file right?
[08:25] <JoeBlow> garry, yea
[08:25] <timfrost> p337, if you are using breezy or hoary, you will need to install gcc-3.4, and set the build up to use that, because the kernel is compiled with 3.4
[08:26] <p337> timfrost: ok, ill do that now
[08:27] <p337> timfrost: i need 3.4 even if 4.0 is installed?
[08:28] <timfrost> p337, yes, because kernel modules need to be built with the 3.4 compiler on hoary and breezy
[08:28] <garry> JoeBlow I think the line needs to say /dev/partitionname none swap sw 0 0 and to insert the line do in terminal sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[08:28] <p337> timfrost: k
[08:30] <p337> timfrost: http://pastebin.com/497491 at least its a different error
[08:30] <JoeBlow> garry, under type, put swap?
[08:31] <JoeBlow> garry, do u have a swap file u can paste the whole thing in here?
[08:31] <JoeBlow> garry, the line for it
[08:31] <HoboTurtle> okay thanks for great help
[08:31] <HoboTurtle> ill be back tomorrow
[08:31] <HoboTurtle> im too tired
[08:31] <p337> timfrost: http://www.ralinktech.com/supp-1.htm am i choosing the wrong one of these??
[08:31] <garry> JoeBlow oh, this line I gave you is for a swap partition.
[08:31] <JoeBlow> garry, yea but it has to many things for me
[08:31] <garry> JoeBlow someone said a swap part would be better.
[08:32] <JoeBlow> garry, none under type?, and the swap sw under options?
[08:32] <garry> JoeBlow oh yes, when you go to create a fifth partition, you get the choice to make an extended one instead of primary.
[08:32] <garry> say JoeBlow  sec, let me copy and paste my line .
[08:32] <JoeBlow> garry, ok
[08:33] <garry> JoeBlow /dev/hdd5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[08:33] <timfrost> HoboTurtle. did you run 'sudo apt-get update' after changing sources.list?
[08:33] <p337> sethk: timfrost should i try this one?
[08:34] <JoeBlow> garry, so none for type?
[08:34] <UncleD> mysql/lighttpd question. For some reason mysql_config didn't come with my "packaged" ubuntu apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client. To compile lighttpd with mysql support, i need that file. Any ideas?
[08:34] <garry> none for mount pount, swap is the file type, sw is the optin and the two zeros I don't know what they do.
[08:34] <JoeBlow> garry, or for mount point?
[08:35] <fusionfox> persia, and how do i make sure that ubuntu-desktop is installed first??
[08:35] <garry> see above
[08:35] <JoeBlow> and then swap for type, and then sw in options?
[08:35] <garry> JoeBlow yep
[08:35] <JoeBlow> garry key
[08:35] <garry> say JoeBlow just make sure you got the swap partition created before adding line and rebooting.
[08:36] <JoeBlow> garry, just checked, its their
[08:36] <JoeBlow> garry, thanks bro
[08:36] <timfrost> p337, I am not sure.  I came in part way through youir attempt to build the driver.
[08:36] <garry> welcome. glad to make a difference
[08:36] <JoeBlow> garry, thats why i came to ubuntu, best community support
[08:36] <p337> timfrost: trust me, you have not missed much, i have accomplished nothing
[08:36] <UncleD> garry: For some reason mysql_config didn't come with my "packaged" ubuntu apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client. To compile lighttpd with mysql support, i need that file. Any ideas? Ubuntu installed: mysql Ver 14.7 Distrib 4.1.12, for pc-linux-gnu (i486) using readline 4.3
[08:36] <persia> fusionfox: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[08:36] <garry> you bet, and one of the most civil groups here.
[08:37] <p337> timfrost: i know that it is a ralink driver.. i am gonna try this source forge one.. to see if it is easier
[08:37] <timfrost> p337, good luck.
[08:37] <p337> thanks
[08:37] <fusionfox> persia, oh oh i see ubuntu desktop on the dist-upgrade list so i think it is getting updated =3
[08:38] <garry> UncleD Sorry, only guess is keep looking for missed or different mysql related packages.
[08:38] <persia> fusionfox: If that is the case, it is being updated, and the dependencies will pull in all the new developer-recommended software for breezy.  Good luck!
[08:38] <UncleD> garry: Does ubuntu support 5.0.18?
[08:39] <sobersabre> hi guys.
[08:39] <sobersabre> does dapper allow one to actually work ?
[08:39] <garry> say UncleD if it is in the regular repositories it should if its in contrib or muliverse or universe, I'm not sure.
[08:40] <Seveas> UncleD, not yet
[08:40] <Madpilot> sobersabre: not sure - but to answer your earlier question, try #ubuntu-devel for the devs
[08:41] <garry> sleepy time, gngiht all. sleep well, ... eventually. :)
[08:41] <Kr0ntab> heya peoples....
[08:41] <fusionfox> persia,  whaaa?? is that good or bad??
[08:42] <p337> timfrost: how do i know if i meet these requirements? http://pastebin.com/497495
[08:42] <persia> fusionfox: I think it is good to get the newer software selections as well as the newer packages.  Your opinion will depend on your experience.
[08:44] <timfrost> p337, you won't meet the kernel restriction on breezy of hoary, as the latest kernel for them is 2.6.12, and that driver is for 2.6.13 and later.
[08:45] <p337> timfrost: so this isnt gonna work....
[08:45] <p337> lame
[08:45] <UncleD> Seveas: my problem is that ubuntu didn't install mysql_config and in order to install lighttpd with mysql support, I need that file w/ mysql installed.
[08:45] <timfrost> p337, sorry.
[08:47] <UncleD> What is the way to uninstall mysql via apt-get?
[08:50] <persia> UncleD: sudo aptitude purge mysql-common
[08:50] <UncleD> what is the diff between aptitude and apt-get? they are the same
[08:50] <UncleD> ?
[08:50] <Turicas> hello. i think that's a bug in nautilus. someone can test it for me?
[08:51] <Turicas> hello. i think that there's a bug in nautilus. can anyone help me on test this bug [and report] ?
[08:51] <Seveas> UncleD, different programs for the same purpose
[08:51] <persia> UncleD: Some syntax is a little different.  Aptitude allows packages to be marked "automatically installed", for automatic uninstallation when they are unused, and aptitude has a dselect-like front-end available.
[08:52] <p337> timfrost: did some looking around.. you ever try ndiswrapper?
[08:53] <persia> UncleD: Also, aptitude does not support source downloads or compiles (that I have found), and there appears to be no direct analog to `apt-get install -f`
[08:54] <timfrost> p337, no.  But there is info in the Wiki and forums.
[08:54] <UncleD> persia: Can you check for a file called mysql_config on your system?
[08:54] <p337> timfrost: maybe ill try that tomorrow... i am frustrated now... im booting windows and going to bed, lol
[08:55] <p337> timfrost: thanks for your help though
[08:55] <brian_> what avi player do u guys use, i normally use mplayer, but its giving me trouble on one of my avi's
[08:55] <persia> UncleD: I don't have mysql installed, but apt-file reports that it should be in libmysqlclient-dev.
[08:55] <liable> p337: the open source drivers dont work?
[08:56] <UncleD> persia, how did you check that?
[08:56] <p337> liable: i couldnt get them to.........
[08:56] <liable> p337: sorry been trying to get the ralink ones to compile. the scripts dont want to play, buti got it to configure at least
[08:56] <persia> UncleD: `apt-file search mysql_config`
[08:56] <UncleD> how come my apt-file search returns no such thing..
[08:57] <liable> p337: couldnt get em to compile?
[08:57] <UncleD> persia: Do you have some special sources uncommented?
[08:57] <p337> liable: i couldnt get them to do anything
[08:57] <holycow> that should be apt-cache
[08:57] <holycow> maybe not :)
[08:57] <holycow> lol
[08:57] <siimo> hi do any of the onboard VGA cards work with ubuntu? like the SiS chipset or the S3 unichrome (i mean any non intel)
[08:58] <liable> p337: what was the errors?
[08:58] <persia> UncleD: Have you run apt-file update recently?  Other than that, it could just be that we have different repositories configured.  Mine are a bit of a mess.
[08:58] <holycow> siimo, there is no single repository of info on that, generally you start with google
[08:58] <brian_> what avi player do u guys use, i normally use mplayer, but its giving me trouble on one of my avi's
[08:59] <p337> liable: http://pastebin.com/497491 was the most recent i think
[08:59] <holycow> i use totem for everything except qt7
[08:59] <persia> slimo: There's a list started at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards
[08:59] <holycow> totem-xine more specifically with w32codecs, not totem-gstreamer
[09:00] <siimo> persia, thanks
[09:01] <liable> p337: no, thats the ralink, what about the open source ones?
[09:01] <p337> liable: oh i was dont meet the pre requesites
[09:01] <p337> -was
[09:02] <liable> p337: which were?  http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Downloads
[09:02] <timfrost> liable, the open-sourfce driver doesn't support kernel 2.6.12 - sse  http://pastebin.com/497495
[09:03] <persia> UncleD: I have all the sources uncommented, and some extra sources configured.  On the other hand, it appears that libmysqlclient12-dev 4,0,24-10ubuntu2 is part of breezy, and contains the file.
[09:03] <errr> Im getting ready to move from gentoo to ubuntu, I have a question about some of my spare disks. When I do the install to hda will I be able to keep the data on hdb and hde and hdf intact w/o problems, or would it be better to unplug those drives for the install then plug them in after?
[09:04] <p337> liable: # Only 2.6.13 and higher kernels are supported
[09:04] <liable> p337: so get a 2.6.13 kernel.
[09:04] <p337> liable: how do i do that?
[09:04] <holycow> errr, plug them in after ... just in case
[09:04] <persia> errr: As long as you arrange for a manual partitioning, you can leave everything plugged in.  If you want automatic arrangement, it may be safer to remove them.
[09:04] <holycow> errr, you will need to manually add them to /etc/fstab when you plug them in, but thats not a prob
[09:04] <errr> holycow, persia ok thanks
[09:05] <liable> p337: ah, you're on hoary?
[09:05] <p337> liable: breezy
[09:05] <errr> after 2 1/2 years of gentoo I think I have had enough. I want the ease my laptop has :) thanks for the advise :)
[09:06] <liable> p337: whats the lates kernel image?
[09:06] <ubuntu> nbm
[09:06] <p337> liable: what does that mean? the version? 2.6.12
[09:06] <liable> p337: sec
[09:06] <p337> liable: ...oh nvm i see what you are saying
[09:07] <p337> liable:  there is another thats higher, but i dont think it is "stable"
[09:07] <liable> p337: a 2.6.13 is more than stable by now..
[09:07] <p337> liable:  oh and im using kubuntu if that makes a differnece
[09:07] <liable> p337: nope
[09:08] <liable> p337: sec, i am sure i have done the driver on a sarge kernel
[09:08] <p337> liable:  ok
[09:13] <liable> p337: where did you see that about needing a 2.6.13 kernel?
[09:13] <liable> p337: i cant see anwhere in the docs about it.
[09:13] <p337> liable:  in the README
[09:14] <liable> p337: p337 where did you get it?   http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Downloads
[09:15] <p337> from source forge, but i think thats the same file
[09:15] <liable> p337: well, it says it works on 2.4...
[09:15] <p337> liable:  rt2x00-2.0.0-b3 right?
[09:16] <liable> p337: 1.1.0
[09:16] <liable> p337: get the r2500 one
[09:17] <p337> liable:  oh ok... i just assumed... the newest version
[09:22] <p337> liable: ..uggh error while doing the make install
[09:22] <p337> liable: ill try with sudo
[09:23] <liable> p337: yeah, you need root privs for install..
[09:23] <p337> liable: i cant tell if it worked or not
[09:23] <topyli> then it usually has worked :)
[09:23] <liable> p337: if you didnt get errors, then it did.
[09:24] <liable> p337: modprobe rt2500
[09:24] <p337> liable:  just this grep: /etc/modprobe.conf: No such file or directory
[09:24] <p337> append 'alias ra0 rt2500' to /etc/modprobe.conf
[09:24] <liable> p337: thats ok
[09:24] <topyli> p337: unix philosophy: don't bother the user with messages, unless you fail (and then, fail loudly) =)
[09:25] <p337> topyli: lol
[09:25] <p337> liable: so what do i do know?
[09:25] <p337> now**
[09:25] <liable> p337: ifconfig -a
[09:25] <liable> should have a wlan0 iirc
[09:26] <gerald-volt> can someone with a joystick help me test my program
[09:26] <liable> p337: you did the modprobe right?
[09:26] <p337> liable: no
[09:26] <p337> liable: lol.. whats that
[09:27] <liable> repeat after me (into the keyboard)   sudo modprobe rt2500
[09:27] <p337> lol.. ok
[09:27] <p337> ...wlan0 still not there
[09:28] <p337> liable:  etho lol ra0 sit0
[09:28] <liable> p337: paste the output from ifconfig -a to #flood
[09:28] <liable> ah, ra0
[09:28] <liable> iwconfig
[09:29] <liable> p337: now just try and configure it with whatever thing you have for doing that stuff
[09:29] <p337> liable: http://pastebin.com/497514
[09:30] <iddy_> can someone remind me of the entry i need to insert into /ect/modules to get a Twinhan DTB-T card working on Ubuntu Breezy? ( the card is also known as a Twinhan 1020a)
[09:30] <brian_> hello, i installed ubuntu a few hours ago and im having a few issues that are frustrating me to no end. is there anyone available to help?
[09:30] <p337> liable: so what should i do now?
[09:31] <liable> p337: use whatever gui thing you have to turn it on.
[09:31] <p337> liable: kwifi manager?
[09:31] <liable> p337: does anything show up in iwconfig?
[09:31] <brian_> hello?
[09:31] <liable> brian_: just ask..
[09:32] <p337> liable: yes
[09:32] <p337> liable: ra0 seems to seem some sort of signal
[09:32] <liable> p337: then try kwifi
[09:32] <blood> how i install a .deb?
[09:32] <liable> dpkg -i foo.deb
[09:33] <liable> p337: if you have wpa (g) turned on for your ap, then make it wep, cause g wont work.
[09:33] <p337> liable:  its open right now
[09:33] <liable> ok
[09:34] <melonipoika> hi all, i have a problem with the wireless and i have no idea what to do anymore, i hope someone could help me...
[09:34] <p337> liable: i scan for networks.. nothing found
[09:34] <p337> liable:  i am 3 feet from my router
[09:34] <melonipoika> i'm connecting to internet trhough another pc, that has the internet connection
[09:34] <liable> p337: i dunno if that card supports scanning, just put your ssid in
[09:34] <melonipoika> so i have an ad-hoc connetcion
[09:34] <p337> oh ok...
[09:34] <liable> p337: actually, iirc it does..
[09:35] <melonipoika> it was working fine, but now i cannot make even a ping
[09:35] <blood> how i browse as root?
[09:35] <melonipoika> any idea?
[09:35] <p337> liable: WOOO connected
[09:35] <liable> :)
[09:35] <p337> liable:  awesome thanks
[09:35] <liable> yw
[09:35] <p337> liable: lol i was ready to give up, boot windows, and go to sleep
[09:35] <melonipoika> #ubuntu-forums
[09:35] <melonipoika> uy
[09:35] <melonipoika> sorry
[09:35] <liable> hah
[09:36] <brian_> alright. im having a hell of a time accessing my internal wireless card. its a broadcom on a compaq r3000. ive loaded ndiswrapper and the option to now load a driver appears, but 1. i cant find the right driver for my card and 2. the driver i did try ,"bcmwl5a", found the device but failed to load it properly. i desperatley need help
[09:37] <liable> p337: now go grab a beer and sit outside with it and drink while you surf the net and watch the sun go down :)
[09:37] <liable> brian_: browse what?
[09:37] <liable> err
[09:38] <p337> liable:  lol.... good idea... except the sun is about to rise
[09:38] <p337> 3:38 am
[09:38] <brian_> liable: im sorry, what do you mean by browse what?
[09:38] <iddy_> 6:38pm here
[09:38] <iddy_> is great
[09:38] <liable> brian_: sorry wrong nick
[09:38] <iddy_> and neighbours has just started
[09:38] <iddy_> woo
[09:38] <liable> iddy_: qld?
[09:39] <brian_> liable: its cool
[09:39] <Seveas> iddy_, where is 'here'?
[09:39] <iddy_> Brissie QLD
[09:39] <liable> brian_: check out tuxmobil.org
[09:40] <brian_> liable: alright ill look through there, thanks
[09:41] <brian_> my other issue is when i go to device manager all of my devices say unknown vendor and status is just "status". my biggest concern is that my laptop is hyperthreaded and its only registering one processor. does anyone know what might be causing all of this??
[09:42] <Fujitsu> brian_: Have you got the smp kernel?
[09:42] <liable> brian_: do you have the smp kernel?
[09:42] <liable> !lose me
[09:42] <ubotu> liable: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:42] <liable> !stupid bot
[09:42] <ubotu> stupid liable
[09:42] <Fujitsu> Apparnelt.y
[09:43] <brian_> fujitsu and liable: imsorry im very new to linux, what is the smp kernel?
[09:43] <trukulo> brian_: multiprocessor
[09:43] <brian_> trukulo: where would i get the smp kernel?
[09:43] <Fujitsu> brian_: Install linux-image-686-smp
[09:43] <trukulo> brian_: aptitude or apt-get
[09:46] <liable> well, the apps go from unstable to testing to stable :)
[09:46] <liable> doh..
[09:46] <Xnos> hi..
[09:47] <brian_> okay great, thanks :]  does anyone know what is accounting for the rest of my devices to show up unknown?
[09:48] <liable> brian_: does lspci show them?
[09:48] <iddy_> never mind the question i asked above, i found the answer here > http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Twinhan_VP-1020A
[09:48] <brian_> liable: yes
[09:49] <liable> brian_: as the right devices? or unknown vendor etc?
[09:49] <highvoltage> Hi. I have a problem with mysql in bugzilla.
[09:50] <highvoltage> when i try to open a page, I get:
[09:50] <highvoltage> install_driver(mysql) failed: DBD::mysql object version 2.9006 does not match bootstrap parameter 2.9007 at /usr/lib/perl/5.8/DynaLoader.pm line 245.
[09:50] <highvoltage> Compilation failed in require at (eval 13) line 3.
[09:50] <highvoltage> any idea on how to fix that?
[09:50] <brian_> liable: its showing 90% unknown devices, but all of the vendors are labled correctly it seems.
[09:50] <liable> brian_: hrm, try    sudo update-pciids
[09:52] <Xnos> i have question friends... why when i convert a cue file to iso with bchunk this make tow files... what image i have to burn iso1 or iso2
[09:53] <brian_> that seemed to fix most of them, an ISA and PCI bridge are both still unknown however.
[09:53] <liable> brian_: is this a very new box?
[09:54] <liable> brian_: give it time for the developers to catch up.
[09:54] <liable> Inzion: not yet anyway
[09:54] <liable> grrr
[09:55] <brian_> liable: the comp's a year old, but i just wasnt sure if it was normal for the device manager to neglect to show any activity or labeling.
[09:55] <p337> hey... i saw this command earlier... for benchmarking or something.. and it was a picture of gears.. anyone know what i am talking about?
[09:55] <liable> glxgears
[09:56] <p337> cool thanks
[09:56] <sudharsh> which one glxgears?
[09:56] <p337> are there any others like it?
[09:56] <brian_> well thanks for the help everyone :] 
[09:57] <Xnos> i have question friends... why when i convert a cue file to iso with bchunk this make tow files... what image i have to burn iso1 or iso2?
[09:57] <Amaranth> glxgears is _NOT_ a benchmarking app
[09:57] <Amaranth> and never say it is around daniels :P
[09:58] <sudharsh> well atleast u get to know the state of affairs with ur video card
[09:58] <p337> lol.... well.. there was some ridiculous parameter at the end of it to make it give fps
[09:58] <p337> what was that?
[09:58] <liable> p337: kill it and it tellls you
[09:59] <midwinter> !glxgears
[09:59] <ubotu> methinks glxgears is To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[09:59] <joesi> hi all
[09:59] <midwinter> but yeah, not a benchmark.
[09:59] <p337> ah.. cool thanks
[10:00] <sudharsh> then a ques arises.....waht benchmark tools are available
[10:00] <SweetestSavage> 252.869 FPS =p
[10:00] <sudharsh> thats pretty slow
[10:00] <sudharsh> 3d accel aint enabled...it seems
[10:00] <SweetestSavage> midwinter, kinda surprising that's the actual command to display the FPS lol
[10:01] <p337> 15020.586 FPS
[10:01] <p337> are there any other apps like that?
[10:01] <sudharsh> glxinfo givs a text output...
[10:01] <p337> or... for actual benchmarking i guess
[10:01] <Amaranth> midwinter: is that really the argument you have to give it to make it output numbers? :P
[10:02] <SweetestSavage> Amaranth, yeah lol
[10:02] <SweetestSavage> Amaranth, try it
[10:02] <Amaranth> yeah, if i wasn't on OS X right now...
[10:02] <SweetestSavage> Ah xD
[10:05] <odat> heya
[10:10] <p337> thanks for the help everyone
[10:11] <sudharsh> hi..i hav a SiS 315 series video onboard
[10:11] <sudharsh> the prop driver offered by SiS didnt work...
[10:11] <sudharsh> Is there by any chance I could make 3d accel work in my card
[10:12] <_max_> yes
[10:12] <_max_> there are usually other drivers than the ones made by manufacturor
[10:12] <_max_> try searching for one of those :)
[10:12] <_max_> the one they supply probably works, you just might have missed something.
[10:12] <odat> sudharsh, did you reconfigure you card first?
[10:12] <sudharsh> i sppose u r refering to the thomas win*
[10:13] <sudharsh> i did get detected outta the box
[10:13] <sudharsh> someguy named winischroffer has built the driver but his website says there aint any support for 3d accl
[10:13] <sudharsh> in 315 series
[10:14] <jad> Hi, guys I'm not able to login to gnome, I'm getting 'your session last more than 10 seconds check ~/.xsession-errors' and in xsessions-error file I got _IceTransNoListen: unable to find transport tcp _IceTansMkdir: uid !=0 /dev/x will not be created
[10:14] <jad> any idea?
[10:14] <odat> sudharsh, try this and read when it asks about dri v4l and stuff mark all of them   in terminal type    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:14] <sudharsh> will do...
[10:15] <odat> jad google it that is where i found the cure   i can't remember it now though
[10:15] <coz> morning all
[10:16] <odat> sup coz
[10:16] <Despen> morning
[10:16] <coz> odat not much
[10:16] <jad> odat: I cannot google, I'm using terminal now with Ircii client
[10:16] <coz> Despen morning
[10:16] <_max_> jad : lynx2
[10:16] <Amaranth> jad: sudo rm ~/.ICEauthority
[10:17] <odat> aha thats it amaranth i couldn't remember
[10:17] <odat> too tired to google lol
[10:17] <coz> Guys I keep trying to configure and install a few apps with ./configure && make && sudo make install
[10:17] <odat> i was playing around with dapper today
[10:17] <jad> Amaranth: it worked! but would you please tell me why it happens so I can avoid being in this situation again ?
[10:17] <odat> wow lots and lots of new stuff
[10:17] <sudharsh> didint work.....got the dri stuff in xorg.conf by default
[10:17] <odat> pretty cool
[10:17] <coz> but nothing installs
[10:18] <Amaranth> jad: Did you run k3b recently?
[10:18] <Friar> Will "Integrated Intel Graphic Media Accelerator 900" graphics card work well with ubuntu?
[10:18] <odat> sudharsh, you have to restart after you reconfigure
[10:18] <johndarkhorse> Amaranth: you're either up early or late
[10:18] <sudharsh> yup
[10:18] <sudharsh> well i did
[10:18] <Amaranth> johndarkhorse: Really late. :P
[10:18] <jad> Amaranth: yes, and I run it as root because I have problem with cdrecord permissions
[10:19] <Amaranth> jad: that's what does it
[10:19] <odat> anyone remember the command to check dri status
[10:19] <jad> Amaranth: running k3b or running it as root ?
[10:19] <sudharsh> try glxinfo
[10:19] <Amaranth> odat: glxinfo, iirc
[10:19] <Amaranth> jad: running it as root
[10:19] <deFrysk> Amaranth, funny had exactly same prob for the same reasons :)
[10:19] <sudharsh> odat, check for direct rendering
[10:19] <odat> sudharsh, if dri is on then you should be good to go
[10:19] <jad> Amaranth: ah than I should find the solution for the cdrecord permissions
[10:20] <Amaranth> jad: k3b should tell you how to fix them
[10:20] <jad> Amaranth: Thank you, lemme get back to this channel with xchat
[10:20] <sudharsh> ok odat...dri isnt enabled..the trouble lies with my card
[10:20] <jad> exit
[10:20] <sudharsh> the open source driver provided by xorg doesnt do any good for SiS 650
[10:20] <Madeye> back
[10:20] <Amaranth> Madeye: jad?
[10:20] <odat> i had problems getting dri enable with onboard graphics    so i just got a cheap nvidia card
[10:20] <sudharsh> is there any way i could emulate different cards
[10:21] <Madeye> Amaranth,  k3b just says 'run k3bsetup' but I didn't know what to do after that
[10:21] <Madeye> Amaranth, yes Jad :-)
[10:21] <odat> you can pick 128 mb nvidia card for almost nothing now
[10:21] <Amaranth> Madeye: run k3bsetup from a terminal? :)
[10:21] <coz> yo soy tu padre
[10:21] <coz> hello again
[10:21] <sudharsh> oh well....jus bought an ngage qd....
[10:21] <odat> hmmm i don't understand the obsession with k3b
[10:21] <sudharsh> and moreover i have to upgrade my whole rig
[10:22] <odat> ngage?
[10:22] <Madeye> Amaranth,  ok, shall I tick the 'use bruning group' ?
[10:22] <Amaranth> Madeye: I guess so...
[10:22] <sudharsh> yup....i live in india and get those things really cheap
[10:22] <odat> i usually buy nvidia just because i know it supported well
[10:22] <Madeye> Amaranth,   there is no burning group
[10:22] <Despen> do ubuntu use alsa?
[10:23] <Amaranth> Madeye: I guess the answer is no. :P
[10:23] <coz> Despen yes
[10:23] <odat> Despen yea
[10:23] <Despen> ok.. thanks
[10:23] <Amaranth> Despen: Every distro that has a 2.6 kernel uses alsa.
[10:23] <sudharsh> try multimedia system selector in System>Preferences
[10:23] <odat> but ubuntu uses it the best lololol
[10:23] <Madeye> Amaranth, heh I mean k3b says 'There is no group burning.'
[10:23] <odat> madeye are you using gnome or kde?
[10:23] <coz> Madeye are you using Kde
[10:23] <odat> beat ya coz lol
[10:24] <Madeye> odat, gnome
[10:24] <coz> yeah lol
[10:24] <coz> use gnomebaker
[10:24] <odat> damn it coz
[10:24] <odat> lol
[10:24] <coz> lol
[10:24] <odat> yea what he said
[10:24] <odat> k3b is overrated in my book
[10:24] <Amaranth> or, you know, use the best burning app on linux :P
[10:24] <odat> i luv gnomebaker and serpentine for that matter
[10:24] <Madeye> k3b is much better guys
[10:24] <coz> Madeye use gnomebaker or nerolinux but nerolinux is a bit quwerky
[10:25] <Amaranth> Madeye: does k3bsetup offer anything else?
[10:25] <Amaranth> !k3b
[10:25] <odat> madeye at doing what?
[10:25] <ubotu> it has been said that k3b is "A sophisticated KDE cd burning application", its said to be the best burning GUI out there!
[10:25] <Amaranth> bleh
[10:25] <Amaranth> !forget k3b
[10:25] <ubotu> Amaranth: i forgot k3b
[10:25] <coz> NO WAY
[10:25] <sudharsh> well it can cr8 bootable cds
[10:25] <odat> lol what can't
[10:25] <sudharsh> i guess gnome-baker cant
[10:25] <Madeye> Amaranth,  no
[10:26] <odat> sorry that was just silly sudharsh
[10:26] <odat> i don't like having all those kde libs on my system
[10:26] <coz> guys just in case i did it wrong initially how do test that my name is registered?
[10:26] <Amaranth> Madeye: make sure you always run k3b with gksudo then
[10:26] <Amaranth> Madeye: instead of sudo
[10:26] <sudharsh> err................sorry why odat
[10:27] <coz> odat I don't blame you
[10:27] <coz> they are slow on gnome
[10:27] <deFrysk> coz Password accepted - you are now recognized when you log in
[10:27] <Madeye> okay Amaranth
[10:27] <coz> deFrysk great but how do I check that?
[10:27] <deFrysk> coz, when you loginto freenode you can see that
[10:27] <Amaranth> coz: just type /ns identify <password>
[10:28] <coz> thanks amaranth
[10:28] <Amaranth> coz: and then you'll be sure
[10:28] <Madeye> so there is no way to fix the cdrecord permissons?
[10:28] <Amaranth> Madeye: I guess not.
[10:28] <UncleD> Amaranth: I'd like to disable apache2 and run lighttpd in its place. I was forced to install apache2 for some dependency (php5 i think?) - how can I properly disable it
[10:28] <deFrysk> Madeye, in dapper ?
[10:28] <Amaranth> Madeye: running with gksudo isn't so bad
[10:28] <odat> kde will survive but far behind gnome simply because why would any real developer want to learn qt when writing software for linux. I mean if they want to eventually create commercial software they have to pay to use QT. When they can create whatever kind of software they want free or commercial for linux for free using gtk. That is why you have seen a sudden push towards Gnome.
[10:29] <Amaranth> UncleD: err, apache2 is only installed if you install libapache2-mod-php5
[10:29] <Amaranth> UncleD: which isn't needed for php5, only for apache2/php5 integration
[10:29] <Madeye> Amaranth,  Okay, thanks :-)
[10:29] <Amaranth> odat: Don't start.
[10:29] <odat> coz kde is just not what i consider to be in the spirit of linux
[10:29] <sudharsh> install from source
[10:29] <UncleD> Amaranth: oops. My mistake. How do I remove it?
[10:29] <odat> Amaranth, sorry
[10:30] <coz> well my first experience with KDE was redHat I hated it there I hate it on ubuntu
[10:30] <Amaranth> UncleD: if you try to remove apache2 it should remove libapache2-mod-php5 too
[10:30] <sudharsh> i guess installin apache n php binaries aint a good idea
[10:30] <polpak> odat: paying for software isn't a "bad thing". Paying for software you can't fix/update/make changes to is.
[10:30] <UncleD> Amaranth - apt-get remove apache2 sound right?
[10:30] <deFrysk> coz, some like this other that , no need to discuss that
[10:30] <odat> coz, i feel more comfortable with gnome and i like gnome philosophy more than kde's
[10:30] <Amaranth> UncleD: sudo apt-get remove apache2, yeah
[10:31] <deicidus> can someone help me connect my external hard drive? it worked until recently, then randomly unmounted, and now wont mount.
[10:31] <polpak> deFrysk: from a end user perspective you're right
[10:31] <sudharsh> UNcleD next time install from tarballs
[10:31] <sudharsh> lol
[10:31] <UncleD> sudarsh: why?
[10:31] <Amaranth> sudharsh: installing from apt works just fine
[10:31] <sudharsh> gives u greater control
[10:31] <polpak> deFrysk: from a developer perspective there are certainly a number of advantages to using gnome
[10:31] <Amaranth> sudharsh: that isn't true
[10:31] <deFrysk> polpak, this is a help channel
[10:32] <deFrysk> not a channel for de wars
[10:32] <odat> polpak, I have no problem paying for software but i'm not paying the developers money to pay for the rights to right software for a platform they could have written to for free
[10:32] <sudharsh> well for one thing u dont get into dependency issues
[10:32] <Amaranth> polpak, deFrysk, odat, coz: GNOME vs KDE to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:32] <odat> Amaranth, again sorry
[10:32] <deFrysk> Amaranth, I just try to end this discussion
[10:32] <odat> anyway how are you amaranth lol
[10:32] <Amaranth> Next comment on the topic gets a +q :P
[10:32] <Amaranth> tired
[10:33] <odat> how about those steelers
[10:33] <odat> lol
[10:33] <odat> just kiddin
[10:33] <Amaranth> did they win?
[10:33] <odat> yea carson palmer got hurt on the second down of the game
[10:33] <odat> that is why they won
[10:33] <coz> Amaranth #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:33] <sudharsh> UncleD are u installin php for learnin
[10:33] <odat> lol
[10:33] <odat> anyway anyone been playing with dapper?
[10:33] <Amaranth> coz: haha
[10:34] <coz> I have played with dapper and uninstalled it pretty fast
[10:34] <Amaranth> coz: football won't get 20 people flaming
[10:34] <coz> I hate football
[10:34] <Amaranth> odat: i have, but not recently
[10:34] <odat> coz, there are some pretty cool new features
[10:34] <sudharsh> like....
[10:34] <coz> right now the live cd offers nothing new or exciting
[10:34] <coz> the install same thing most things are broken
[10:34] <odat> one is the log out dialog box
[10:35] <odat> there aren't any little radio buttons anymore to choose from
[10:35] <Amaranth> another is no more hotplug :)
[10:35] <odat> lol
[10:35] <deicidus> anyone? this is really frustrating me... i don't know why it stopped working
[10:35] <odat> and it is snappier
[10:35] <liable> yeah, and replaced by udev Yay? :(
[10:35] <odat> massive gnome optimizing
[10:35] <coz> deicidus what's up
[10:35] <Pygi> hello peeps :))
[10:36] <sudharsh> whats the diff between the debian way of compiling the kernel and the one in the readme
[10:36] <PuMpErNiCkEl> hey Pygi
[10:36] <sudharsh> i did as mentioned in the readme and screwed up
[10:36] <coz> Pygi you stole my peeps
[10:36] <coz> lol
[10:36] <Pygi> coz: oh? :P
[10:36] <deicidus> coz: i have an external hard drive connected via usb 2.0 formatted as HFS+. it used to mount automatically just fine, but then it started randomly unmounting. now it won't mount at all.
[10:37] <sudharsh> check out /etc/fstab
[10:37] <coz> deicidus I believe that Amaranth can answer this question for you
[10:37] <Amaranth> coz: err
[10:38] <Amaranth> deicidus: get any errors in dmesg when you plug it in?
[10:38] <coz> deicidus just out of curiosity I assume you have already rebotted
[10:38] <deicidus> nothing has changed that i can think of, except updates and using amule
[10:38] <Amaranth> btw, isn't hfsplus read-only?
[10:38] <coz> rebooted
[10:38] <deicidus> yes, error: "VFS: Can't find a HFS filesystem on dev sda"
[10:39] <Pygi> deicidus: as said, check /etc/fstab
[10:39] <deicidus> coz: actually not since it wouldn't mount although i have rebooted a few times to try and get it to stop unmounting at random
[10:39] <Pygi> welcome BenC
[10:39] <deicidus> pygi: its not in fstab
[10:39] <Amaranth> deicidus: ok, sounds like the partition is corrupt
[10:39] <coz> check as they said /etc/fstab
[10:39] <Amaranth> deicidus: does it work on another machine/OS X?
[10:39] <coz> there you go
[10:39] <deicidus> it mounts perfectly on my mac
[10:39] <Amaranth> hrm
[10:39] <odat> i now have personally converted 5 people to ubuntu from windows   yea im the tech guy for them but they friggin luv it lol
[10:40] <deicidus> i tired mounting it manually and adding it to fstab but it didint work
[10:40] <Pygi> odat: ah, well :P
[10:40] <Amaranth> deicidus: what happens when you try to mount it manually?
[10:40] <sudharsh> give us the output of /etc/fstab
[10:40] <Amaranth> deicidus: what command are you running and what's the output?
[10:40] <Amaranth> /etc/fstab has nothing to do with this
[10:40] <sudharsh> ooops....
[10:40] <odat> today my friend had a new cell phone based on palm os and he said i guess i can't use the features with linux
[10:40] <deicidus> here, i should reboot first, right?
[10:41] <odat> i plugged it in and everything synced with evolution lol
[10:41] <Amaranth> deicidus: not needed
[10:41] <odat> he was shocked and happy as hell lol
[10:41] <deicidus> ok then
[10:41] <deicidus> lets see
[10:41] <deicidus> when i just plug it in, it says it can't find a HFS filesystem
[10:42] <Amaranth> ok, what about when you try to mount it manually?
[10:42] <deicidus> the manual command i used was mount -t hfs /dev/sda /media/josef
[10:42] <sudharsh> b4 amaranth kicks me....does ubuntu hav kernel support for these filesysyetms n the first place
[10:42] <Amaranth> (btw, neat trick: mount something manually in /media and it'll show up on your desktop)
[10:42] <deicidus> oh with a sudo
[10:42] <Deanodriver> what would be a good CPU temperature monitor that runs in the gnome panel?
[10:42] <Amaranth> sudharsh: afaik it at least has read-only support for hfs+
[10:43] <Deanodriver> i tried installing lm_sensors with my last install of Ubuntu (which was Hoary), but it never worked properly
[10:43] <Deanodriver> but gkrellm did
[10:43] <sudharsh> well whats the use with a read-only filesystem
[10:43] <deicidus> now that gives an immediate error: wrong fs type, bad option, etc etc etc
[10:43] <Amaranth> sudharsh: reading files from?
[10:43] <Amaranth> deicidus: exact command and exact output please
[10:43] <odat> Amaranth, don't yell at me for this but i have found new people adjust easier to gnome than kde   too many options i guess
[10:43] <sudharsh> Deanodriver..gdesklets has some....
[10:44] <sudharsh> try em
[10:44] <Deanodriver> ok
[10:44] <coz> deucudus can you back this up on your mac then format it with fat
[10:44] <sudharsh> u kno ntfs...
[10:44] <deicidus> amaranth: k, sorry: sudo mount -t hfs /dev/sda /media/josef
[10:44] <sudharsh> that would be a good idea
[10:44] <Deanodriver> better check and see if gdesklets is installed
[10:44] <Amaranth> deicidus: doing what coz said would be your best bet
[10:45] <coz> fat is more universal and can be read by mac/windows/ linux
[10:45] <Amaranth> deicidus: FAT32 might suck, but basically every OS in existence can read/write to it
[10:45] <Deanodriver> and gdesklets-data?
[10:45] <vbgunz> anybody here use Opera?
[10:45] <coz> not fat 32
[10:45] <sudharsh> yes
[10:45] <Amaranth> coz: what else would he use? FAT16?
[10:45] <Deanodriver> cool, i'll download them and see if they work
[10:45] <sudharsh> Deanodriver proceed with the installation
[10:45] <Amaranth> coz: FAT12? (that's for floppies)
[10:45] <coz> it would be more universal
[10:45] <Deanodriver> ok
[10:45] <coz> try it
[10:45] <CarinArr> hey, i have a problem. I use software that needs the latest nvidia drivers to work. I removed the nvidia drivers from my system and installed them using the .run from the nvidia website.. Ended up getting a API Mismatch where it is trying to use the old kernel module with the new driver.. With kernel 12-9 I could fix it by purging the linux restricted modules packages, but with 12-10 i get dependency problems and dpkg refuses to remove them
[10:46] <Deanodriver> it's just downloading them atm
[10:46] <deicidus> output: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda, missing codepage or other error. in some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so
[10:46] <Amaranth> coz: FAT16 has a 2GB partition limit
[10:46] <Deanodriver> i'll cut the torrents for a few min
[10:46] <Amaranth> coz: and lots of other annoying things
[10:46] <coz> true
[10:46] <Amaranth> coz: FAT32 is much better and just as well supported
[10:46] <coz> none the less fat formatting is the best bet for him and you are right about fat32
[10:46] <sudharsh> anyway Deanodriver d/l shoudnt take much time
[10:46] <coz> sorry for my confusion
[10:46] <deicidus> mac os doesnt support it that well
[10:46] <Friar> fat 16 has a limit to the number of folders in a folder doesnt it?
[10:46] <Deanodriver> it's installing now
[10:47] <Amaranth> deicidus: sounds like linux no longer recognizes the version of hfs+ you have on there
[10:47] <Deanodriver> done
[10:47] <Friar> like 256 folders or something like that
[10:47] <deicidus> i believe mac os x cant acces partitions bigger than 60gb or something...
[10:47] <Amaranth> deicidus: Doesn't support FAT32 well? How so?
[10:47] <sudharsh> well try em
[10:47] <CarinArr> anyone?
[10:47] <deicidus> and files cant be bigger than 4gb anyway
[10:47] <Friar> not good if you're a webhost
[10:47] <Amaranth> well, no
[10:47] <deicidus> i think...
[10:47] <Amaranth> deicidus: If you don't have Tiger ext2 is a good choice too.
[10:47] <vbgunz> if anybody here uses the opera web browser... do you know how to launch the opera email client?
[10:47] <coz> deicidus fat32 is the way to go
[10:48] <Amaranth> or ext3, but panther will see it as ext2
[10:48] <sudharsh> dump opera...use evoltuion
[10:48] <deicidus> nope, use tiger
[10:48] <Amaranth> deicidus: Then FAT32 is pretty much your best bet.
[10:48] <deicidus> but i wont have enough space to back it up for at least a week
[10:48] <Amaranth> deicidus: I dunno why/how it worked before and doesn't now, but hfs+ support on linux isn't that good.
[10:48] <fek> moin
[10:49] <Deanodriver> i'll have to install lmsensors, i guess
[10:49] <deicidus> argh
[10:49] <coz> Also osx mayhave done something if you were going bsack asnd forth
[10:49] <Deanodriver> are there any that don't rely on it?
[10:50] <sudharsh> Deanodriver..well....gdesklets didnt work?
[10:50] <Amaranth> Deanodriver: probably not, it's pretty much the standard way of reading sensors
[10:50] <Deanodriver> gdesklets did
[10:50] <Deanodriver> i'm in the shell now
[10:50] <deicidus> bleh well ok i can live without my cool p2p server setup for a week... barely, with enough pesto
[10:50] <deicidus> which leads me to my next question
[10:50] <sudharsh> wait...burm the data on a dvd or somthin
[10:51] <deicidus> no dvd burner, thats coming too
[10:51] <sudharsh> oh well....
[10:51] <deicidus> my brother's getting a nice desktop that i get to mooch off of :
[10:51] <deicidus> :
[10:51] <Friar> can anyone get ares working with gift?
[10:51] <deicidus> stupid smiley _)
[10:51] <coz> gift?
[10:51] <Friar> yeah
[10:52] <deicidus> anyway, i know of equivalents for most of the os x programs im used to
[10:52] <sudharsh> whats that
[10:52] <Friar> I was able to get .deb for fasttrack but not ares
[10:52] <coz> file sharing
[10:52] <sudharsh> how much hd space do u hav
[10:52] <sudharsh> deicidus
[10:53] <Deanodriver> No Temperature sensors were found. Is lmsensors installed and working?
[10:53] <Deanodriver> bah
[10:53] <Deanodriver> i just installed it
[10:53] <deicidus> sudharsh: oh its all over the place. i *do* have enough, but i have to transfer it using my (fat32) ipod, which is slow and inconvenient because of various old technologies... much easier just to wait
[10:53] <Pygi> feraky: ping ping ping
[10:53] <deicidus> sudharsh: like, hours easier, and ill be redoing it again then anyway
[10:53] <coz> deicidus waiting is good idea
[10:54] <theine> Hi, has katapult's behaviour recently changed? If I hit <ALT-SPACE> it appears but it doesn't do anything when I start to type in "xchat" or whatever.
[10:54] <sudharsh> borrow a dvd writer from ur pals
[10:54] <coz> when you get dvd writer make sure it is plextor
[10:54] <Pygi> coz: lol, thats not a good suggestion :P
[10:54] <sudharsh> sony.....
[10:54] <coz> Pygi why is that?
[10:55] <Pygi> coz: cause Plextor is no good anymore :P
[10:55] <Deanodriver> eh, wait a second
[10:55] <Deanodriver> they all ask for lmsensors
[10:55] <deicidus> but im worried/wondering whether there are these apps on linux: seamless encryption, automatic ipod syncing (including directories), and slick personal wiki software
[10:55] <coz> Plextor is still top of line sony and tdk fall second in capabilities
[10:55] <Deanodriver> but the one i installed was lm-sensors
[10:55] <coz> I have all three
[10:56] <sudharsh> well Deanodriver did u try the 'add-2-panel' thing
[10:56] <Deanodriver> in what?
[10:56] <sudharsh> forget it...that tell only the frequency of the CPU
[10:56] <Deanodriver> i know the frequency of the cpu :P
[10:56] <deicidus> any recommendations for those three apps?
[10:57] <coz> Deabidriver what motherboard do you have?
[10:57] <Deanodriver> Asus A7S8X-MX
[10:57] <coz> hold on
[10:57] <Deanodriver> cheapie, but it works
[10:57] <Deanodriver> SiS 741GX chipset
[10:57] <UncleD> saharsh: you really think installing from tarballs lets you customize better?
[10:57] <sudharsh> i hav an ASUS 2
[10:57] <deicidus> on osx i use disk utility for encrypted disk images, itunes, and voodoopad
[10:57] <sudharsh> UncleD: yes
[10:57] <UncleD> Amaranth: sudo apt-get remove apache2 says "package apache2 is not installed" but i know its installed, its running right now!
[10:58] <midwinter_> I don't suppose anyone has had problems running quodlibet and managed to fix it? odd..
[10:58] <UncleD> sudharsh: ah. Do you run the latest version of mysql? 5.0.18?
[10:58] <Amaranth> UncleD: it must be called something else
[10:58] <i-node> anyone know a suitable place to download PDA apps for linux?
[10:58] <Amaranth> UncleD: try 'apache'
[10:58] <sudharsh> i run a 5.1.3 alpha
[10:58] <sudharsh> jus for learnin stuff though
[10:58] <UncleD> sudharsh: how can I install the latest version properly? Can you show me a good tutorial
[10:59] <UncleD> Amaranth: apache didn't work either.
[10:59] <chihuong> alo
[10:59] <sudharsh> ok UncleD giv me ur mail id...i haad don it for my LUG
[10:59] <UncleD> sure
[10:59] <sudharsh> or jus a sec i'll give u the link
[11:01] <Deanodriver> hmm
[11:01] <Deanodriver> it wants i2c kernel modules
[11:01] <Deanodriver> whatever they are :P
[11:01] <UncleD> sudharsh: check msgs
[11:01] <Pygi> anyone tried to use gcc on live cd??? :P
[11:01] <coz> Deanodriver hold on I am still researching the mobo
[11:01] <Deanodriver> ok
[11:01] <chihuong> i want to study about ubuntu system
[11:02] <Friar> any way to install a .ebuild package on ubuntu?
[11:02] <Pygi> friar: yes, there is....
[11:02] <chihuong> how type unicode in ubuntu?
[11:02] <Pygi> friar: you need to manually put portage into ubuntu...
[11:03] <Pygi> so, have anybody tried installing and using gcc  on live cd? :)
[11:03] <Friar> thanks I'll give it whirl
[11:03] <coz> Deanodriver I am not sure there are sensors onboard this mobo
[11:03] <Deanodriver> damn
[11:04] <coz> I stillhaen't found the manual for it
[11:04] <Deanodriver> it's not that old a mobo
[11:04] <coz> but at least you have an Asus mobo
[11:04] <coz> two pci slots right?
[11:04] <Deanodriver> yeah
[11:04] <AndyR> lo all
[11:04] <Deanodriver> SiS 964 southbridge
[11:04] <coz> And an amd slot which processor you using
[11:04] <Deanodriver> 2500+
[11:04] <Deanodriver> xp
[11:05] <Deanodriver> and i'm not using the onboard video :P
[11:05] <coz> I think that this mobo may not have sonsors i am also using amd but mine is K7 600 mgz easily clockable
[11:05] <Madpilot> !sensors
[11:05] <ubotu> it has been said that sensors is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto
[11:05] <coz> but I have no sensors on board
[11:05] <Deanodriver> thanks
[11:05] <Deanodriver> i'll give that a go
[11:05] <Friar> are intel video adapters good with ubuntu?
[11:05] <Deanodriver> thing is, i've had gkrellm working on it
[11:05] <coz> No problem but the sensor thing would be nice
[11:05] <Deanodriver> intel ones should be fine
[11:05] <Friar> thanks
[11:05] <coz> well honestly you have a better board
[11:06] <coz> Asus is top of line intel is stable
[11:06] <Deanodriver> i've only had it a year
[11:06] <coz> asus rocks
[11:06] <Deanodriver> if that
[11:06] <chihuong> thank you
[11:06] <Madpilot> Deanodriver: just reading some of the backscroll - I've got got an Asus mobo too, similar vintage as yours, and lm-sensors + ksensors works just fine
[11:06] <Deanodriver> cool
[11:06] <chihuong> i will try soon
[11:06] <Deanodriver> thanks, i'll give it a go
[11:06] <coz> Mad pilot you have a similar board?
[11:06] <Deanodriver> just it's a hot night, and i'm getting kinda worried about this CPU temp
[11:06] <coz> go water coolled
[11:06] <Deanodriver> even with an aftermarket HSF, I reckon it'd still be nudging 70C
[11:06] <Deanodriver> nah
[11:06] <yeanhoo> j/ #ubuntu-br
[11:07] <Deanodriver> i'd rather buy a new CPU
[11:07] <coz> well the new amd's beat pentiums for thermals
[11:07] <coz> last year anyway
[11:08] <Madpilot> Deanodriver: I've got an XP-M 2500+ too, and it runs at around 39C desktop, up to about 47C loaded, room temp ~18C
[11:08] <UncleD> sudharsh: where'd you go
[11:08] <coz> well guys I am about to go play with my "ubuntu" have a good night all
[11:09] <sudharsh> UncleD
[11:09] <sudharsh> i'll send u an email within 15 minutes....
[11:09] <Steven_M> My kubuntu distro dvd intalled kde by default, tonight I installed gnome, but gnome is not listed in kdm's session type menu. What do I do?
[11:10] <UncleD> sudharsh, ok thank you
[11:10] <UncleD> sudharsh: im just trying to setup a nice web-development machine, you know
[11:10] <Battlestar> hmmm can i get some tech support anyone?
[11:10] <PuMpErNiCkEl> What's the question?
[11:11] <Battlestar> trying to get ubuntu running on a ibook G3
[11:11] <Pygi> UncleD:lol :)
[11:11] <Battlestar> problem is i think the refresh rate or vsync is conflicting with the LCD screen
[11:11] <Battlestar> half the display is on the screen, the other half overlaps what is on the screen or just isn't there
[11:11] <UncleD> How can I see the apt packages installed with the word "apache" in them?
[11:12] <Deanodriver> Madpilot, mine's a desktop 2500+
[11:12] <Steven_M> somebody??
[11:12] <erik__> exit
[11:12] <PuMpErNiCkEl> Battlestar: You can specify refresh rate and colour depth on boot with the 'vmode' and 'cmode' parameters... would that help?
[11:12] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: in a terminal type "apt-cache search apache" or use synaptic
[11:12] <Battlestar> so how do i enter those parameters on boot
[11:13] <UncleD> johndarkhorse: That lists all the apache files that exist. I want to see the ones ive installed
[11:13] <Battlestar> do i just enter them after "linux"
[11:13] <Madpilot> Deanodriver: my XP-M runs in a desktop machine - I guess it might run a bit cooler, being designed for lappies originally
[11:13] <PuMpErNiCkEl> Battlestar: Right at the beginning, it should offer you a prompt for any particular parameters you want to define.
[11:14] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: ah, type in the terminal "dpkg -l|grep "ii apache""  i believe will do it (or use the 'installed' filter in synaptic)
[11:14] <Pygi> UncleD: go to synaptic, search in apache, and you'll see what packages are installed and what not
[11:14] <thoreauputic_> UncleD: dpkg -l *apache* | grep ^ii   <-- from memory
[11:14] <PuMpErNiCkEl> Battlestar: Hang on, I'll find a list of the options and the syntax.
[11:15] <UncleD> that worked good.
[11:16] <UncleD> johndarkhorse: when I tried to uninstall all the apache2 packages, I received this error when phpmyadmin came up
[11:16] <UncleD> dpkg: error processing phpmyadmin (--remove):
[11:16] <UncleD> subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127
[11:16] <Deanodriver> hmm, seems to work
[11:16] <Deanodriver> i'll try the gdesklet app
[11:16] <Deanodriver> :)
[11:16] <Battlestar> a list of options and sytax would be most helpful
[11:16] <Nikusan> hi all, I'm looking for the controversial greeter image from warty. I dont mean the washed out brown images that can be found in universe. Does anyone have a link?
[11:17] <PuMpErNiCkEl> Battlestar: http://www.sharplabs.com:8668/space/video+boot+arguments
[11:17] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: i'm not much on balancing programs. you need to decide what you want.
[11:17] <Deanodriver> hmm
[11:17] <Deanodriver> now sensors come up with info, but the gdesklets don't
[11:18] <UncleD> johndarkhorse: im trying to remove phpmyadmin - its dependent on apache2, but now I cant even remove it.
[11:18] <Madpilot> Deanodriver: try ksensors, it seems to work best - I tried xsensors too, and couldn't get it sorted out...
[11:18] <Deanodriver> ok
[11:18] <Deanodriver> thanks
[11:18] <bungle> hi all
[11:18] <Battlestar> thanks for that pumpernickel
[11:19] <UncleD> johndarkhorse: http://rafb.net/paste/results/goC2bN88.html -- i get this error when I try to unstainll phpmyadmin
[11:19] <UncleD> thoreauputic_: http://rafb.net/paste/results/goC2bN88.html any ideas?
[11:21] <PuMpErNiCkEl> Steven_M: Have you tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kubuntu-desktop' or that but with 'ubuntu-desktop'?
[11:22] <thoreauputic_> UncleD: have you looked at /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm  ? That seems to be where the problem lies
[11:22] <Deanodriver> awesome, thanks a lot
[11:22] <Deanodriver> it works
[11:22] <Deanodriver> :D
[11:22] <Pygi> what's the current user password in live cd???
[11:22] <Deanodriver> sitting on 58C... :p
[11:22] <Seveas> there is no password
[11:23] <UncleD> thoreauputic_ yes, its just a script
[11:23] <Nikusan> the image from the greeter at http://img62.exs.cx/img62/4553/screenshot4.png is the one I'm looking for
[11:23] <Seveas> (yes, screensavr locks on the live cd: known bug, solved in dapper)
[11:23] <PuMpErNiCkEl> Battlestar: np :)
[11:23] <Pygi> Seveas: so empty?
[11:23] <Seveas> Pygi, yes
[11:23] <Seveas> (iirc)
[11:23] <ali__> when i try to download mplayer from nerim repo, i get error, how can i install mplayer?
[11:23] <Pygi> Seveas: but it says it's wrong :/ and I need to lock a computer for a moment :/
[11:23] <thoreauputic_> 1mplayer\
[11:23] <Deanodriver> oh well, it's a warm night, thanks a hell of a lot for that :)
[11:23] <thoreauputic_> !mplayer
[11:23] <ubotu> [mplayer]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[11:23] <Seveas> Pygi, then set a password :)
[11:24] <Deanodriver> been wanting to get it working for ages
[11:24] <Pygi> Seveas: well, I would... . but I need to know current password
[11:24] <Seveas> Pygi, sudo passwd ubuntu
[11:24] <ali__> thoreauputic_: th.x
[11:24] <Seveas> sudo is setup to be NOPASSWD
[11:24] <Pygi> ah, thx seveas
[11:25] <Pygi> seveas: I can't lock screen :/
[11:25] <Seveas> Pygi, xscreensaver --lock
[11:26] <Pygi> this live cd is funny :p
[11:26] <Seveas> :)
[11:26] <Steven_M> PuMpErNiCkEl: no, I'll try that now. Thanks.
[11:26] <PuMpErNiCkEl> Steven_M: np :)
[11:26] <Madpilot> Deanodriver: 58C? Ouch - might want to review your cooling...
[11:27] <Deanodriver> i've got a front and rear fan, and an aftermarket HSF
[11:27] <polpak> Seveas: does the dapper live CD work better for gparted resizing NTFS partitions? It just wouldn't do anything on the breezy live
[11:27] <Deanodriver> but it is the middle of summer on a warm night
[11:27] <CarinArr> lovely
[11:27] <bungle> upgraded to firefox 1.5 and java and realplayer dont work help anyone?
[11:27] <Deanodriver> and the desk it is in is terrible for cooling
[11:27] <Seveas> polpak, ntfsresize has been functional since hoary...
[11:27] <Seveas> polpak, maybe you need to defrag
[11:28] <polpak> Seveas: perhaps, but I could successfully resize on a hoary live CD, or knoppix.
[11:28] <Seveas> polpak, that's weird
[11:28] <polpak> Seveas: yeah
[11:28] <polpak> Seveas: I saw someone else mention something similiar
[11:28] <Pygi> seveas: the command  doesnt work....
[11:28] <Seveas> Pygi, what's the error?
[11:29] <polpak> Seveas: not that it matters to me much since I have no ntfs partitions anymore =))
[11:29] <Seveas> :)
[11:30] <Pygi> seveas: first off all, I need to use xscreensaver-command -lock, and not that thingy you said...
[11:30] <Pygi> and the error is...
[11:30] <Pygi> xscreensaver-command: locking not enabled.
[11:30] <Seveas> ah
[11:30] <Katie> I try and play a game
[11:30] <Seveas> locking has been disabled completely
[11:31] <Seveas> ergo, impossible to lock
[11:31] <Pygi> huh :/
[11:31] <Katie> flash
[11:31] <Katie> and the keys dont work
[11:31] <Katie> why?
[11:31] <Pygi> live cd is weird
[11:31] <Katie> it'll work sometimes but not always
[11:31] <Pygi> thx anyway
[11:31] <UncleD> thoreauputic_: I had to add a line to /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm before the if statement to make it work.
[11:32] <thoreauputic_> UncleD: aha! Well hacked sir !
[11:32] <Seveas> UncleD, file the bug :)
[11:32] <UncleD> how?
[11:33] <rob1> how does a debian base install compare to a ubuntu server install?
[11:33] <thoreauputic_> rob1: pretty much identical afaics
[11:33] <cryptom> hi, how does the system determine to rotate e.g. /var/log/syslog daily, even if in /etc/logrotate.conf "weekly" is globally set?
[11:33] <ilba7r> !dmix
[11:33] <ubotu> somebody said dmix was at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[11:33] <rob1> thoreauputic, oh good.. I was gonna check out packages.debian.org but its down
[11:34] <Madpilot> !bug
[11:34] <ubotu> To file a bug, go to http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ for packages in main or http://launchpad.ubuntu.com/malone/distros/ubuntu for Universe packages
[11:34] <thoreauputic_> rob1: don't use debian packages in ubuntu unless you like fixing broken systems ;)
[11:34] <bart_> Hey i'm a absolute beginner and looking for a program supporting my webcam, gaim doesn't support a webcam unforntunatly...
[11:34] <ilba7r> why not just ubotu say that virtual sound mixing is already supported in ubuntu i lost 4 days cause of bad wiki and bad advice here
[11:35] <PuMpErNiCkEl> bart_: kopete, amsn, and gaim-vv do
[11:35] <rob1> thoreauputic_, no I don't plan to, just looking at using it as a base to make a custom debian/ubuntu install on my kids pc
[11:35] <mika0800> installation: how come I selected server-expert as installation type ... but still it installed the gnome desktop ?
[11:35] <sudharsh> gaim-vv doesnt support webcam broadcasting
[11:35] <ilba7r> why not ubotu respond to !dmix by virtual sound mixing already run out of box
[11:35] <Pygi> seveas: any way i could enable it?
[11:35] <rob1> that should be debian or ubuntu install..
[11:35] <PuMpErNiCkEl> sudharsh: I thought it did for the msn protocol, but not yahoo...
[11:36] <Seveas> Pygi, probably recompiling xscreensaver
[11:36] <thoreauputic_> rob1: when I said pretty much the same I meant functionally - I don't know if using a debian base install wuld work with ubuntu
[11:36] <sudharsh> does it...
[11:36] <Madpilot> ilba7r: the bot only knows what people have told it
[11:36] <thoreauputic_> rob1: I'm guessing it wouldn't
[11:36] <rob1> thoreauputic_, yeah I assumed that much
[11:36] <Pygi> seveas: k, i just installed gcc and build-essential in memory
[11:37] <thoreauputic_> ilba7r: it doesn't always - I needed dmix to get mine set up correctly
[11:37] <ilba7r> i know Madpilot just make me wonder of factoids. I followed a wiki in a factoid from ubotu. Lost considerable time to find i am trying to reinvent the wheel
[11:37] <yatoo> hello  ~~
[11:37] <PuMpErNiCkEl> hey yatoo
[11:38] <Madpilot> ilba7r: which factoid & which wiki page? both can be changed...
[11:38] <Seveas> ilba7r, that's very much explained by the lack of sound experts in here
[11:38] <thoreauputic_> ilba7r: that's open source - different solutions for different circumstances
[11:38] <Seveas> ilba7r, corrections would be very(!) welcome
[11:38] <PuMpErNiCkEl> ilba7r: I'm highlighting you too :D
[11:39] <ilba7r> Madpilot, i think the link to the page have been changed but no hint that virtual mixing can just work. i thought it did not cause i used realplay. turned out it is only prob with real
[11:39] <thoreauputic_> ilba7r: not just real - any OSS app
[11:39] <yatoo> I'm from Chinese....
[11:39] <thoreauputic_> ilba7r: audacity, games like pingus etc
[11:40] <yatoo> Who can help me
[11:40] <ilba7r> thanx all but i found that many of the advices here are either recompile even recompile source. sometimes it does not need to be like that. perhaps a hint would be helpfull
[11:40] <thoreauputic_> ilba7r: what sort of hint? We aren't infallible you know
[11:40] <sudharsh>  /msg nickserv link sudharsh rockinrobin
[11:41] <sudharsh> oooooooooooooops
[11:41] <ilba7r> thoreauputic, i know that now and now the work around aoss realplay. am using xmms and ditch realplay all together
[11:41] <PuMpErNiCkEl> yatoo: #ubuntu-zh is chinese support
[11:41] <thoreauputic_> ilba7r: OK
[11:41] <Seveas> sudharsh, /msg nickserv set password something_new
[11:41] <sudharsh> yes yes...silly me
[11:42] <ilba7r> thoreauputic, something like do not advice to reinstall from source before searching for original package. I have seen people advising to install alsamixer though it is already installed. Sorry for the flame just had to trace back all the steps i done in 4 days
[11:43] <UncleD> sudharsh you sent it yet?
[11:43] <sudharsh> yes
[11:43] <mika0800> with Ubuntu Hoary 5.04, if I do sudo apt-get update, will it cause ubuntu to update the kernel as well ?
[11:43] <thoreauputic_> ilba7r: well, you get some bad advice sometimes, yes - from gentoo refugees often ( /me ducks and runs )
[11:43] <Madpilot> ilba7r: the wiki is easily editable by anyone; if you can correct some of the sound information there please do - as thoreauputic said, we've got a shortage of sound experts...
[11:43] <ilba7r> by the way people here like to help sometimes a little bit of ignorence hurts more than help. nevertheless the community is great
[11:43] <UncleD> sudharsh: you sent me the wrong file.
[11:43] <UncleD> sudharsh: i wanted to know about mysql, not apache&php.
[11:44] <sudharsh> oh sorry.......
[11:44] <thoreauputic_> ilba7r: inevitable that some people will give bad advice - sorr about that
[11:44] <thoreauputic_> *sorry
[11:45] <ilba7r> thanx Madpilot thoreauputic and Seveas and sorry for the steam.
[11:45] <thoreauputic_> ilba7r: heh - I feel your pain ;)
[11:45] <Pygi> lol ;)
[11:45] <Seveas> ilba7r, no sweat dude, comments are just as welcome as compliments
[11:45] <Pygi> use postgre, rather then MySQL if you have a choice....
[11:45] <Seveas> and as said before: if you have improvements to docs/factoids, please, pretty pleasy change them
[11:45] <sudharsh> UncleD what in mysql....
[11:46] <Seveas> Pygi, hear hear :)
[11:46] <Seveas> Pygi, and python instead of php :)
[11:46] <PuMpErNiCkEl> Seveas: Surely you meant Perl? ;)
[11:46] <ilba7r> Seveas, will do as i gain more experience do not want to give bad advice or learn on other people pcs :)
[11:46] <Seveas> eww no
[11:46] <ilba7r> take care guys see ya all later
[11:46] <Seveas> ilba7r, cya
[11:46] <thoreauputic_> Seveas: the dmix factoid is mine I think - I found it useful but if there's a better link then by all means change it someone
[11:47] <Seveas> thoreauputic_, my sound knowledge is extremely limited
[11:47] <yatoo> PuMpErNiCkEl~~  I  heven't found how to input the Chinese ~~help me .. please..
[11:47] <PuMpErNiCkEl> yatoo: type /join #ubuntu-zh
[11:47] <stark-johan> my system frooze up last night and forced me to reboot when I got up this morning, can I trace why by looking at any specific logs? I have a pretty standard system set up.
[11:48] <yatoo> thanx    .. I'm  try  do it ..
[11:48] <Seveas> stark-johan, /var/log/{dmesg,kern.log,emerg.log,messages}
[11:48] <mika0800> there really IS something wrong about ubuntu's character set handling. I accepted the default UTF8 ... and now, with command line, finnish letters  and  function wrong on the command line.
[11:48] <Pygi> Seveas: ofcourse :)  perfectionists use only perfect languages :)
[11:48] <stark-johan> Seveas > Ok, I'll check them out.
[11:48] <Seveas> Pygi, :D
[11:49] <Seveas> Pygi, ever used django?
[11:49] <Pygi> Seveas: yesh
[11:49] <Seveas> it SO rocks :)
[11:49] <Pygi> :))))
[11:49] <serengeti> hello, i'm trying to set up irda on my thinkpad t42. I've found some instructions here: http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/Irda
[11:50] <serengeti> but the problem is that they want me to add some lines to /etc/modprobe.conf
[11:50] <serengeti> and there's no such file in my Breezy
[11:50] <Pygi> Seveas: ever tried C/Assembly combination? :)))
[11:51] <Seveas> yeah
[11:51] <mika0800> serengeti: good luck! I have the same issue. Thank god this is a business PC.... so we'll just hire commercial consultant to configure that.... (using external USB-IrDA Actisys IR-4000U)
[11:51] <Seveas> more often than is good for a person
[11:51] <Seveas> serengeti, that is outdated
[11:51] <Pygi> Seveas: I mostly code that way :P
[11:51] <Seveas> try /etc/modprobe.d/irda (if it does not exist: crate it)
[11:52] <serengeti> mika08000: no chances of hiring a consultant here ;) it's my home machine
[11:52] <theine> serengeti, are you sure you need to do that? try "ifconfig -a | grep irda" and see if that gives you something
[11:52] <serengeti> theine: i'll check
[11:52] <mika0800> In 2.6 -kernel based systems, MUCH of any hardware related documentation (like manpages) are outdated... and still if you ask, many will just tell you to read the manual !
[11:52] <Pygi> people tend not to choose python for web thingyes for mostly 3 reasons: 1)They don't know python well 2)Python is "slow" 3)They don't have a clue about anything :P
[11:53] <dsonc> my problem with garnome2.13.4: cairosimple.o: In function `main':
[11:53] <dsonc> /home/dsonc/garnome-2.13.4/platform/pango/work/main.d/pango-1.11.1/examples/cair osimple.c:82: undefined reference to `cairo_surface_write_to_png'
[11:53] <mika0800> Actually, we plan them to packet the solution inside a .deb package....
[11:53] <serengeti> theine: irda0     Link encap:IrLAP  HWaddr 00:00:00:00
[11:53] <theine> serengeti, looks fine, now try "lsmod | grep nsc_ircc"
[11:53] <karlwrk> is there anything special I need to do if I want to use a vanilla kernel from kernel.org?  I seem to have lost sound.
[11:53] <Seveas> dsonc, ask on #gnome on gimpnetr
[11:54] <Pygi> gimpnet*
[11:54] <enyc> Meep
[11:54] <serengeti> theine: nsc_ircc               21084  0
[11:54] <stark-johan> Seveas > What should I look for to find possible crashreasons in my dmesg-file? The other logs you mentioned seems just fine.
[11:54] <serengeti> irda                  187612  3 nsc_ircc,irtty_sir,sir_dev
[11:54] <dsonc> Thank you Seveas
[11:54] <Seveas> Pygi, 3) is the explanation for why they think 1) and 2) :)
[11:54] <Pygi> Seveas: agrees :)
[11:54] <theine> serengeti, everythings seems to be fine already
[11:55] <Seveas> stark-johan, oopses, crashes, anything that's timestamped just before the crash
[11:55] <serengeti> theine: it seems ok I guess but I don't see anything when I wave my Siemens ME45 in front of the irda port
[11:55] <enyc> Who understands anything about the backend tools for recording DVD iso images or has pointers to appropriate information? -- cdrecord = cd-only ....  ;-) [thanks in advance] 
[11:55] <ptlo> dsonc: you don't have png support compiled in in cairo - no problem, only that test example actually tries to *use it*, the rest of the system will work without it
[11:55] <thoreauputic_> Seveas: actually factinfo says the dmix factoid is apokryphos's - so I'm in the clear on that one ;-)
[11:55] <serengeti> theine: in irdadump I mean
[11:55] <Pygi> oh, welcome ptlo :P
[11:55] <ptlo> Pygi: heya :)
[11:55] <theine> serengeti, I never really used irda so I probably can't help you any further...
[11:55] <theine> sorry
[11:55] <ptlo> Pygi: you forgot to mention ruby on rails as the reason #4 :)
[11:56] <Pygi> ptlo: oh, yes :P
[11:56] <Seveas> ptlo, ruby, eww...
[11:56] <Pygi> ptlo: thats not actually a good reason  tho :/
[11:56] <dsonc> ok plto, but my build process is sttoped at that point, what ca ni do to continue him?
[11:56] <serengeti> theine: thanks anyway :)
[11:56] <Seveas> !beer
[11:56] <Pygi> Seveas: huh :P
[11:56] <thoreauputic_> :D
[11:56] <dsonc> so much typo, sorry? :^P
[11:57] <serengeti> mika0800: that would surely be nice
[11:57] <karlwrk> (what if his favourite is warm beer?)
[11:57] <Seveas> karlwrk, then he is crazy
[11:57] <Pygi> Seveas, you are abusing ubotu.... prepare to be kicked.... 5....4....3....2.... system malfunction.... please restart and reopen windows....thank you
[11:57] <karlwrk> I agree, but...
[11:57] <thoreauputic_> karlwrk: ugh- you have to be British to like warm beer
[11:57] <mika0800> IrDA is fine only after you have something like /dev/IrComm0 AND you are able to treat that as if it were a serial port... and then just send AT <Cr> into that....
[11:57] <JoeBlow> egh, warm beer
[11:57] <Pygi> huh, Seveas, saw my old psot to you? :P
[11:57] <Pygi> Seveas, you are abusing ubotu.... prepare to be kicked.... 5....4....3....2.... system malfunction.... please restart and reopen windows....thank you
[11:58] <JoeBlow> im drinking a cold, cola beer, i dont typically drink real beer before 5
[11:58] <Pygi> and you were kicked after that :P
[11:58] <Seveas> Pygi, why do you think I /cycle'd :)
[11:58] <mika0800> there is a MAKEDEV but I have no idea ahow to use it and will it help with IrDA things...
[11:58] <Seveas> mika0800, MAKEDEV irda
[11:58] <johndarkhorse> !offtopic
[11:58] <ubotu> I guess offtopic is Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[11:59] <JoeBlow> what kinda linux partitions do u guys run, like do u keep just one root, or do u use more ?
[11:59] <mika0800> doesn't it want any other parameters besides irda ???
[11:59] <stark-johan> Seveas > Everything seems to be fine in all those files. I guess I just have to hope that the next (eventual) crash leaves some better traces or is there anything else I could do? I checked my apache logs aswell.
[11:59] <sudharsh> ext3
[11:59] <johndarkhorse> JoeBlow: for a safety net, it's good to have your /home on a seperate partition
[11:59] <thoreauputic_> heh so much for scripts
[11:59] <Seveas> stark-johan, not that I know off
[11:59] <sudharsh> yeah...ur user setting would be intact
[12:00] <stark-johan> Seveas  > Thanks anyway.
[12:01] <JoeBlow> johndarkhorse, ohh alright
[12:01] <JoeBlow> johndarkhorse, for while ive been running one root, and one swap, and that was all
[12:01] <serengeti> Seveas: MAKEDEV irda didn't create anything that looks like /dev/ircomm on my machine
[12:01] <JoeBlow> johndarkhorse, but reinstalling is a bitch
[12:01] <Pygi> Seveas: worked on Mono framework/C#?
[12:02] <Seveas> Pygi, tiny little bit
[12:02] <mika0800> does someone know: what directories must be available, for you to run the chechker agaisnst filesystems(s) ? I think you must unmount the filesystem you want to check ... otherwise it will not work
[12:02] <sudharsh> guyz..which one is the more advantageous xorg or xfree86
[12:02] <thoreauputic_> sudharsh: xorg
[12:03] <thoreauputic_> sudharsh: xfree86 is pretty much dead
[12:03] <Pygi> XORG absolutly
[12:03] <bimberi> sudharsh: xorg - modular not monolithic
[12:03] <Pygi> sudharsh: there are rumors that Y server is better :DDD
[12:03] <sudharsh> but didnt xfree just release a new ver
[12:03] <Pygi> Seveas: and what have you done in django?
[12:03] <thoreauputic_> Pygi: Z server is in pre alpha ;-)
[12:04] <Pygi> lol, Z server?? I havent heard about it :P I heard and "used" Y server
[12:04] <thoreauputic_> sudharsh: xfree is arguably non-free
[12:04] <mika0800> dows Ubuntu detect the amount of RAM correctly on every boot ?
[12:04] <thoreauputic_> Pygi: I was kidding
[12:04] <sudharsh> hows that
[12:04] <Pygi> lol, ok :P
[12:04] <serengeti> Seveas: everything's ok :) I just had to enter MAKEDEV -d irda at fist to clean up after previous attempts
[12:05] <thoreauputic_> sudharsh: there has been extensive debate on the matter - google might help :)
[12:05] <sudharsh> okie dokie
[12:05] <JoeBlow> kubuntu is just visisualy different right?
[12:05] <mika0800> serengeti: did you really get your IrDA working ?
[12:06] <sudharsh> JoeBlow: it uses kde
[12:06] <dell500> anyone know how to install libdvdcss??
[12:06] <thoreauputic_> JoeBlow: KDE is functionall different as well
[12:06] <sudharsh> not just visually differnt
[12:06] <thoreauputic_> *functionally
[12:06] <johndarkhorse> JoeBlow: you can have as many Desktop Environments as you wish
[12:06] <JoeBlow> sudharsh, whats the difference with gnome and kde
[12:06] <karlwrk> so I installed a fresh (k)breezy, and had sound working and all that, and I built a new kernel for it last night, and for some reason I lost sound.  Things like vlc and xmms all run ok, they don't complain, I just don't get any sound out
[12:06] <JoeBlow> im kinda interested in kde
[12:06] <johndarkhorse> JoeBlow: install a few and use them all, keep on using the ones you like
[12:06] <JoeBlow> but i know gnome, and so i dunno what ill have to relearn
[12:06] <sudharsh> then kubuntu
[12:06] <mika0800> at least many (but not all) KDE-applications work fine with IceWm.... how about the Gnome-Apps ?
[12:07] <serengeti> mika0800: I got it to display SIEMENS ME45 in irdadump so I guess I got it working :)
[12:07] <thoreauputic_> JoeBlow: then install kun=buntu-desktop and see
[12:07] <sudharsh> there r others like xfce, fluxbox
[12:07] <thoreauputic_> *kubuntu-desktop
[12:07] <sudharsh> they are light weight
[12:07] <JoeBlow> thoreauputic_, ok , that sounds pretty cool
[12:07] <mika0800> serengeti: do you have any program which is capable of talking to either a serial port or IrDA -port ?
[12:08] <johndarkhorse> JoeBlow: you might also try xubuntu-desktop  (it's xfce4 +)
[12:08] <serengeti> mika0800: not yet - I want to use the GPRS modem through irda
[12:08] <mika0800> and MAKEDEV -d irda and MAKEDEV irda was all you entered ?
[12:08] <serengeti> mika0800: one moment
[12:09] <mika0800> senrengeti: you can do that later. But first you should verify that your mobile phone responds with "OK" when you send it AT <Cr>
[12:10] <JoeBlow> is their a palce i can just download ubuntu themes?
[12:10] <Madpilot> !tell JoeBlow about themes
[12:10] <thoreauputic_> JoeBlow: for gnome, install gnome-themes-extras
[12:11] <serengeti> mika0800: everything I did was adding these (http://paste.getlinuxhelp.org/1886) lines to /etc/modules
[12:11] <Pygi> Seveas: let's start a war: Python/Django vs. Ruby/RoR :)))
[12:11] <Seveas> Pygi, let's not...
[12:11] <serengeti> mika0800: rebooting and then MAKEDEV -d irda MAKEDEV irda
[12:11] <thoreauputic_> !start an irc client war
[12:11] <Seveas> it would be unfair to ruby
[12:11] <ubotu> irssi is better than gaim !
[12:11] <thoreauputic_> *1 for ubotu
[12:11] <Pygi> Seveas: hehe :)
[12:12] <Pygi> well, ubotu is right :)
[12:12] <thoreauputic_> indeed
[12:12] <Pygi> Seveas: well, I saw people doing magnificent things in RoR as well....altought I never tried it...
[12:12] <dell500> is there any way to have two instances of totem movie player?
[12:12] <blackb0x> Moin!
[12:13] <Seveas> Pygi, conceptually RoR and Django do the same
[12:13] <Seveas> so a war between them would depend completely on preference, just like a vim vs emacs war
[12:13] <mika0800> serengeti: btw: I made a serial port / Ir-port client app myself.
[12:14] <Pygi> Seveas: well, thats true...well, after all, everything comes down to prefference.....
[12:14] <mika0800> With serial ports it works fine. With IrDA, I need to test later
[12:14] <Pygi> Seveas: the language is good if the developer is good
[12:14] <Pygi> Seveas: a good coder could make more and better things in "bad" language, then a bad coder in "good" language
[12:15] <errr> I had nvidia drivers working but then I updated my system, and now X will not start, what needs to be reinstalled/configured for them to work again?
[12:15] <Pygi> errr: reconfigure X server
[12:15] <errr> the only thing updated was the kernel image btw
[12:16] <JoeBlow> just got a new 80 gig harddrive at the store, paid 20  for this baby
[12:16] <JoeBlow> 80 gig, maxtor, 8mb cache
[12:16] <mika0800> so /etc/modules is still in use in 2.6 -series kernels ?
[12:16] <thoreauputic_> mika0800: yup
[12:16] <force> errr, recompile the nvidia drivers
[12:17] <karlwrk> and if you upgraded your kernel and lost sound, what do you do then?
[12:17] <errr> force: I didnt compile them to being with, but I did do a reinstall of them from synaptic
[12:17] <mika0800> JoeBlow, 20 what units? Can you specify in letters, the currency symbol you try to use comes out as rubbish
[12:17] <force> errr, just make sure the nvidia drivers are in sync with the kernel you're running
[12:17] <cafuego> Can I just note my machine is using over 500Mb of swap.
[12:17] <errr> force: hmm ok.
[12:17] <Madpilot> cafuego: with now much actual RAM?
[12:17] <serengeti> mika0800: I don't yet have any serial port client app yet but echo "AT <Cr>" > /dev/ircomm0 causes some activity in irdadump
[12:18] <cafuego> Madpilot: 1.5GB
[12:18] <thoreauputic_> cafuego: you poor chap ;)
[12:18] <saif> my swap mem is 2.gb
[12:18] <Madpilot> cafuego: wow - WTF are you doing?!?
[12:18] <saif> well i wanted a mp3 player
[12:18] <cafuego> Madpilot: I think beagle is indexing :-)
[12:18] <saif> let me know
[12:18] <Madpilot> cafuego: heh - guess they haven't fixed all of beagle's memory leaks, then...
[12:19] <cafuego> Madpilot: Nooooooo
[12:19] <mika0800> serengeti: if you use echo, maybe you should use /r to make <Cr> ... which means carriage return (ascii 13 decimal or 0x0D for C programmers)
[12:19] <cafuego> well, the load is back down to 7 at least
[12:19] <cafuego> mika0800: no, \r
[12:19] <mika0800> oh, try it with some freecall number, like echo ATDT0800123456;/r (note the semicolon; that makes a voice call, otherwise it tries to make a data call)
[12:19] <marcin`> hi all
[12:20] <marcin`> got a pretty strange question
[12:20] <marcin`> does ubuntu support mouse connected via COM port?
[12:20] <marcin`> I connected pretty old mouse to my old PC and started Ubuntu Breezy Live
[12:21] <marcin`> and it doesn't support COM mous
[12:21] <marcin`> mouse
[12:21] <cafuego> marcin`: It would, but I doubt it would automatically detect it.
[12:21] <CosminG> hi all
[12:21] <saif> i want to play mp3 file
[12:21] <CosminG> i download the skype package
[12:21] <thoreauputic_> !mp3
[12:21] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:21] <cafuego> saif: so install an mp3 player.
[12:21] <CosminG> how do I install it?
[12:21] <marcin`> what about installed version? (not Live) ?
[12:21] <Pygi> !skype
[12:21] <cafuego> marcin`: 100% identical.
[12:21] <ubotu> from memory, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[12:21] <cafuego> marcin`: Yopu'd have to TELL it you have a serial mouse.
[12:21] <dell500> is there any way to have two instances of totem movie player?
[12:22] <CosminG> ubotu thank you
[12:22] <ubotu> CosminG: de rien
[12:22] <Pygi> !patience
[12:22] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[12:22] <marcin`> cafuego: hmm how can I TELL that I have serial mouse?
[12:22] <saif> any one prefer to tell me
[12:22] <thoreauputic_> dell500: try disabling system sounds - or read about dmix
[12:22] <saif> i want to play mp3 file
[12:22] <thoreauputic_> !dmix
[12:22] <ubotu> hmm... dmix is at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[12:22] <Madpilot> !tell saif about mp3
[12:22] <cafuego> marcin`: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[12:22] <cafuego> marcin`: You probably also need to laod the 'sermouse' module.
[12:23] <Pygi> xfree86??? who has xfree? :/
[12:23] <cafuego> eh
[12:23] <cafuego> xorg
[12:23] <thoreauputic_> cafuego: erm - xserver-xorg ?
[12:23] <thoreauputic_> :)
[12:23] <cafuego> force of habit, 4 years of #debian ;-)
[12:23] <mika0800> marcin: if ubuntu does not use xfree86, then I don't know. With debian it is as easy as booting from KnoppixCD and copying the Knoppix-mad xFree86 conf file over debian's...
[12:23] <thoreauputic_> cafuego: yeah, it becomes a reflex ;-)
[12:24] <marcin`> cafuego: ok thanks got it.... some serial mouse howto
[12:24] <Pygi> cafuego: huh, 8.5 years of Slackaware ... aka series 2.x
[12:24] <marcin`> thanks all
[12:24] <cafuego> Pygi: My penis is also large.
[12:24] <saif> cafuego, what mp3 player should i download?
[12:24] <Pygi> :/
[12:24] <cafuego> saif: On gnome, try 'rhythmbox'. That also required 'gstreamer-0.8-mad'
[12:25] <thoreauputic_> saif: sudo apt-get install beep-media-player is another posssibility
[12:25] <mika0800> well... maybe I will reboot my ubuntu PC... let's see if my network still works after the reboot....
[12:25] <saif> ok let me try this on terminal
[12:25] <saif> i'm new to ubuntu i just move from suse to ubuntu
[12:26] <karlwrk> can anyone even give me a _hint_ as to why I lost sound support when I built my own kernel.  all the alsa _and_ oss stuff is in there, artsd is running, I just don't get any output.  I know I can go back to the stock kernel, but it doesn't support some other things, and it certainly should be possible to run your own kernel
[12:26] <Pygi> !enter
[12:26] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:26] <thoreauputic_> saif: for mp3 preview in the nautilus file manager, install sox and mpg123
[12:26] <mika0800> karlwrk... if you have 2 or more sound cards (motherboard built-ins included) it may pick the wrong one...
[12:26] <karlwrk> mpg321 instead perhaps
[12:26] <] m[evilb> need some help installing wine
[12:26] <saif> will you provide me the link on private msg
[12:26] <Madpilot> saif: with the right codecs, totem or rythymbox can play mp3...
[12:26] <cafuego> saif: Why not use 'Synaptic' ?
[12:26] <Pygi> !wine
[12:27] <] m[evilb> !wine
[12:27] <thoreauputic_> karlwrk: yes, mpg321 probably works too
[12:27] <Pygi> ubotu tell ] m[evilb about wine
[12:27] <saif> ok i will try
[12:27] <Pygi> wine thingy with ubotu has problems :/
[12:27] <karlwrk> mika: no, just the one, it all worked without touching it before hand, my only thought is this "restricted-modules" package, but I don't know what it is reallyt even for, and google isn't forthcoming
[12:27] <saif> !Synaptic
[12:27] <ubotu> from memory, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[12:27] <bimberi> Pygi: nah, it's just long
[12:28] <] m[evilb> Pygi the problem is i cant install it like that, linux cant get on inet
[12:28] <saif> in ubuntu there's not xms player
[12:28] <Madpilot> Pygi: that !wine factiod is too long to display in-channel, that's why you get it as a pm from the bot
[12:28] <thoreauputic_> saif: xmms
[12:28] <Pygi> then compile it off source ] m[evilb
[12:29] <thoreauputic_> !info xmms
[12:29] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 979 kB, Installed size: 7216 kB
[12:29] <] m[evilb> Pygi i'm a complete noob with linux, just installed it yesterday
[12:29] <saif> yeah sorry!
[12:29] <Pygi> ] m[evilb: what do you want to run with wine? it's just for apps, not games....
[12:29] <saif> well, i also wanted to disable auto dialing while my computer starts
[12:30] <errr> well I removed all the things I installed for nvidia to begin with, then reinstalled them and followed all the same steps I did the first time, and I still cant get nvidia to work, X will not start unless I use nv
[12:30] <] m[evilb> pygi apps and steam
[12:30] <flogiston> Why does konsole or gnome-terminal start when i try to start xfterm4?
[12:30] <Pygi> steam: meaning games which support steam?
[12:30] <thoreauputic_> flogiston: as far as I know, xfterm4 uses gnome-terminal
[12:30] <bimberi> ] m[evilb: you could download the deb for local transfer to your ubuntu box - http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/wine_0.9.5-winehq-1_i386.deb
[12:31] <Pygi> and then dpkg -i file.deb
[12:31] <] m[evilb> yeah did all that
[12:31] <] m[evilb> still doesnt work
[12:31] <flogiston> When i don't have gnome-terminal or konsole installed xfterm4 start but if they are xfterm4 does not start.
[12:31] <flo> who plays Battlefield 2: Modern Combat?
[12:31] <bimberi> ] m[evilb: yep, that's a typical wine experience :P
[12:31] <] m[evilb> synaptic says the pakages are broken
[12:32] <] m[evilb> bimberi anyway of getting it to work?
[12:32] <thoreauputic_> flogiston: the pacj=kage appears to be  xfce4-terminal
[12:32] <] m[evilb> or other program i can try
[12:32] <saif> how can i disable
[12:32] <saif> auto dial
[12:32] <flogiston> thooreauputic, how do i fix this?
[12:33] <bimberi> ] m[evilb: need to see the error message really (i realise that isn't easy with no net connection)
[12:33] <thoreauputic_> flogiston: I don't really know to be honest - xfterm4 appears to start gnome-terminal here ( I prefer urxvt mostly)
[12:34] <flogiston> I just have konsole installed becuase i like to use yakuake which uses konsole.
[12:34] <flogiston> Gnome-terminal isn't installed at the moment.
[12:34] <cafuego> There, good boy.
[12:34] <] m[evilb> bimberi if i can get my usb wireless adapter installed i can get on net
[12:35] <bimberi> ] m[evilb: i have had some success using the sidenet wine config utility - http://sidenet.ddo.jp/winetips/config.html
[12:35] <bimberi> !wireless
[12:35] <ubotu> from memory, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[12:35] <thoreauputic_> flogiston: have you tried other terminals? rxvt, aterm, urxvt ( urxvt is in the rxvt-unicode package and supports utf-8)
[12:35] <flogiston> Id like transparancy.
[12:35] <karlwrk> there can be only one! xterm for PM!
[12:36] <thoreauputic_> flogiston: aterm and urxvt do transparency with the -tr flag
[12:36] <thoreauputic_> flogiston: lots of other options in the man pages - and they start *fast*
[12:36] <flogiston> Think i looked fore the config when i hade som of the different terminals.
[12:37] <karlwrk> though I did kinda like the automatic url highlight in gnome-terminal
[12:38] <flogiston> karlwrk, isn't that a feature of the shell?
[12:38] <UncleD> How do I add /usr/local/mysql to my $PATH ?
[12:38] <cafuego> flogiston: no
[12:38] <cafuego> UncleD: Why did you do that?
[12:38] <karlwrk> flogiston: highlighting you could do in xterm, but not adding a rightlcick and "open in browser"
[12:38] <thoreauputic_> UncleD: /usr/local/bin should be in your PATH
[12:38] <flogiston> Aah you mean that.
[12:39] <UncleD> mysql explained to install to /usr/local/mysql though
[12:39] <UncleD> I'm needing to run two versions for testing, 4.1 and 5.0
[12:39] <cafuego> UncleD: WHy not just apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 though?
[12:39] <cafuego> Ah ok.
[12:39] <thoreauputic_> UncleD: just put a symlink in /usr/local/bin then
[12:39] <UncleD> ok i thought about doing that
[12:39] <cafuego> UncleD: You can edit $PATH in /etc/profile or in ~/.bashrc or by symlinking it in /usr/local/bin
[12:40] <UncleD> so a symlink is preferred over changing my $PATH thor?
[12:40] <cafuego> UncleD: You undountedly also want edit ld.so.conf though.
[12:40] <UncleD> and do what to it?
[12:40] <thoreauputic_> UncleD: I prefer it - YMMV
[12:40] <johndarkhorse> UncleD: most definitely do you NOT want to change your path
[12:40] <UncleD> so just make a symlink for mysql in /usr/local/bin
[12:40] <UncleD> and leave it at that?
[12:40] <cafuego> thoreauputic_: I prefer adding ~/.bin to my path and adding symlinks there.
[12:41] <UncleD> cafeugo: what does that do?
[12:41] <thoreauputic_> cafuego: yes that works too of course :)
[12:41] <cafuego> UncleD: Allows me to add stuff for me only.
[12:41] <cafuego> UncleD: and no root access required.
[12:42] <Friar> suggestion of a good rss reader for gnome anyone?
[12:42] <cafuego> Friar: thunderbird is nice
[12:42] <thoreauputic_> Friar: straw or liferea
[12:42] <Seveas> Friar, liferea
[12:42] <olicat> Friar, blam
[12:42] <Friar> thanks... I'll try 'em all
[12:43] <olicat> Friar, blam uses mono, which you may not want - but it's interface is nice and simple
[12:43] <JoeBlow> wheres the offtopic chatroom?
[12:43] <cafuego> JoeBlow: In the basement.
[12:43] <Friar> i dont know what mono is lol
[12:43] <cafuego> JoeBlow: See the door with the biohazard sign?
[12:43] <JoeBlow> cafuego, yea
[12:43] <olicat> Friar, it's linux's implementation of C#
[12:43] <Friar> but i've apt-getted it
[12:43] <Madpilot> JoeBlow: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:44] <Friar> ok
[12:44] <thoreauputic_> JoeBlow: #ubuntu-offtopic  ;)
[12:44] <JoeBlow> Madpilot, :)
[12:44] <Friar> sorry for my ignorance :-)
[12:44] <Friar> u gotta start somewhere
[12:45] <Madpilot> good night, all
[12:45] <cafuego> Just don't start with C# <heh>
[12:45] <Friar> lol
[12:46] <johndarkhorse> see yall later
[12:46] <Friar> and dont start with VB either....
[12:46] <cafuego> VB is a simple beer, but nice.
[12:46] <j2dope> hi. is there anyway to make it so when I click my scroll button on my house, it comes up with a scrolling icon like on windows?
[12:46] <ben_underscore> cafuego, yuk
[12:46] <Friar> i like vb but its not like most other langauges
[12:46] <cafuego> Friar: http://www.fosters.com.au/enjoy/beer/victoria_bitter.htm
[12:46] <UncleD> thoreauputic_: so, if mysql is in /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql do you recommend that i do ln -s /usr/local/bin/mysql /usr/local/mysql/bin/mysql (or is there a way to symlink the whole directory?)
[12:47] <j2dope> VB is grotty
[12:47] <Friar> when i moved on I had to work out what the symbols did lol { }
[12:47] <dell500> where do the files from wget download?
[12:47] <j2dope> fosters is unaustralian!
[12:47] <cafuego> dell500: to the current working dirdctory
[12:47] <thoreauputic_> UncleD: why don't you just symlink the executable?
[12:47] <cafuego> j2dope: so am i!
[12:47] <midwinter> ha fosters.
[12:47] <Friar> is there an ide equivilent to vb for linux though?
[12:47] <UncleD> thoreauputic_: maybe because there are many other programs useful
[12:47] <UncleD> thoreauputic_: in the bin/mysql directory
[12:47] <j2dope> so is there a way to make my scroll button do something when i click it in a browser?
[12:48] <cafuego> Friar: More or less; there's glade...
[12:48] <Friar> I've teied glade
[12:48] <UncleD> thoreauputic_: preferably id like to add the /usr/local/mysql/bin to my $PATH. how can i do that/
[12:48] <cafuego> Friar: anjuta?
[12:48] <Friar> tried glade and anjuta
[12:48] <cafuego> Friar: there's a Jave one, but I can't remember its name.
[12:48] <Friar> they are nice
[12:49] <Friar> but not quite the same as vb/delphi
[12:49] <thoreauputic_> UncleD: globally in /etc/bash.bashrc, but /etc/profile also sources that IIRC
[12:49] <ben_underscore> Friar, for java use netbeans or eclipse. both are ms visual studio equivalent
[12:49] <mwe> what's the debian_chroot part doing in .bashrc: PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$ '
[12:49] <serengeti> mika0800: I got gnome-ppp to talk to the modem in my Siemens
[12:49] <Friar> I would like something like Jdeveloper
[12:49] <ben_underscore> Friar, otherwise there is one for python that you might like...hang on i'll find the name
[12:49] <Friar> with the gui deisgner
[12:49] <cafuego> Friar: There's a non-free one called REALbasic
[12:50] <cafuego> Friar: Eclipse
[12:51] <UncleD> thoreauputic: that worked perfect. All i had to do was change /etc/profile
[12:51] <Mikl> hi! can anyone help me in understanding where my drive space leak? when I do df -h it shows that i have partition 9.2 G with 8.4 G used 395 M free. But when I try du it shows that all dirs are about 4 G so i wonder where is my 4 G of drive space. may be I'm doing something wrong?
[12:51] <mika0800> gnome-ppp? Is that a (serial/Irda) terminal  or, like it name suggests, a program to make ppp -connections over a (mobile) phone line ?
[12:51] <Friar> how do you get eclipse?
[12:51] <cafuego> Friar: via synaptic
[12:51] <cafuego> !info eclipse
[12:52] <Friar> i see a lot of packages but not sure which one
[12:52] <cafuego> grr
[12:52] <serengeti> mika0800: should make a ppp connection
[12:52] <cafuego> Just pick the most liklely one
[12:52] <ben_underscore> Friar, the python one is http://boa-constructor.sourceforge.net/
[12:52] <mika0800> did you try my echo ATDT0800123456;/r trick ?
[12:52] <Bjelleklang> is there a simple way to autostart a consolewindows at startup?
[12:53] <sudharsh> u mean the terminal?
[12:53] <mika0800> oh, in Ubuntu: where do I find the runlevel setting (to prevent X to start automatically, if I want  to start it with "startx" instead at will)
[12:53] <serengeti> mika0800: yes but I'm not sure how to tell if something happened :)
[12:54] <serengeti> mika0800: I did echo -e "ATDT0800123456;\r" > /dev/ircomm
[12:55] <ccooke> mika0800: Debian-derived distributions (like Ubuntu) don't use a particular runlevel to decide whether X runs or not
[12:55] <mika0800> That should make your mobile phone to make a voice call to what ever number you put after ATDT... to avoid extra phone bill, I adviced to use any 0800 -freecall number. And, you should see it from the mobile phone's display if it is calling somewhere...
[12:55] <ccooke> mika0800: you just need to tell the system not to start gdm, the graphical login manager
[12:55] <sudharsh> Bjelleklang : Try System > Preferences >Sessions
[12:55] <Bjelleklang> ok, thanks!
[12:55] <mika0800> ccooke: how ?
[12:55] <sudharsh> there you'll hav a tab called Startup Programs
[12:55] <ccooke> mika0800: In Breezy, you can do that with System->Administration->Services
[12:56] <mika0800> in Hoary, is it the same ?
[12:56] <sudharsh> wont bum do the job?
[12:56] <thoreauputic_> mika0800: update-rc.d gdm -f remove  IIRC
[12:57] <UncleD> thoreauputic_: if I want my test copy of mysql to start on reboots, i need to create a symbolic link for it called S20 etcc... in rc2.d?
[12:57] <serengeti> mika0800: it's not calling anywhere
[12:57] <ccooke> mika0800: In hoary, there's no graphical tool for it. In a terminal, run: 'sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove'
[12:57] <thoreauputic_> UncleD: umm - I'm not familiar with mysql sorry -
[12:57] <ccooke> mika0800: (and if you want to add it in again, you'd run: 'sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults' )
[12:57] <sudharsh> UncleD download webmin
[12:58] <Battlestar> hmm can someone help me with something
[12:58] <UncleD> sudharsh: I have webmin, what now?
[12:58] <Hobbsee> !tell Battlestar about ask
[12:58] <karlwrk> stupid bloody thing just powered off! it was supposed togive me warnings when running on batteries!
[12:58] <Hobbsee> karlwrk: happens to me as well - very annoying!
[12:58] <sudharsh> i guess u need to start mysql while booting right
[12:59] <karlwrk> suspend works pretty well, I guess that's a pluss
[12:59] <serengeti> mika0800: only thing that happens is some stuff appearing in irdadump
[12:59] <UncleD> sudharsh: correct. what do I do?
[12:59] <Battlestar> where do i enter startup paramenters!!!!
[12:59] <Battlestar> i've been stuck on this for about 3 hours now
[12:59] <Battlestar> had to format my machine twice
[12:59] <sudharsh> damn..i dont hav webmin now.....do u hav bum installed
[12:59] <Battlestar> and i haven't got anywehere
[12:59] <pappan> startup parameters for what ?
[12:59] <Battlestar> linux
[12:59] <Battlestar> ubuntu
[12:59] <sudharsh> Battlestar...what kinda startup params
[01:00] <mika0800> I am not very good with "C" converntions. But if /r will make a carriage return even as a parameter to echo, then ATDT0800123456;/r should make a call id your IrDa is ok
[01:00] <chtamina> i'm editing a configuration file, using visudo etc... but i do not know how should I do to save it when done
[01:00] <Battlestar> video=atyfb:vmode:5,cmode:32
[01:00] <Ng> chtamina: hit escape, then type :x and hit enter
[01:01] <Ng> chtamina: that will save and exit
[01:01] <mika0800> oh: if you are not running as root: either use sudo with the command or give everyone R/W permissions on /dev/ircomm0 (or whatever in your system)
[01:01] <Battlestar> i've been typing it into the boot: promt for the last 34 hours with no effect!
[01:01] <sudharsh> UncleD....u need to enable mysqld at startup
[01:01] <Battlestar> and it's really starting to get annoying at 1 in the morning
[01:01] <Battlestar> *3 hours^
[01:02] <chtamina> thanks ng
[01:02] <Battlestar> i really need to know where to enter this or i'm going to soon get to the point of chucking y computer and ubuntu disk out the window
[01:03] <pappan> Battlestar: what are you trying to achieve with that parameter
[01:03] <Battlestar> trying to adjust the screen refresh rate and resultion
[01:03] <sudharsh> Battlestar......Waht problem are you havin exaxctly
[01:03] <mika0800> I think my next task is to shutdown the Ubuntu-PC and add more RAM (only have 64 M) since I plan to Install Borland Kylix3.... (that's why I want Hoary with it's 2.6.10 kernel, not 2.6.12)
[01:03] <Battlestar> curently when i boot my laptop the screen it out of proportion and generally stuffed
[01:04] <sudharsh> try > dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:04] <Battlestar> i can't even navigate the login screen in this state
[01:04] <Battlestar> i can barely manage to hit the shut down button
[01:04] <ccooke> Battlestar: does the text-mode side work?
[01:04] <sudharsh> Battlestar try this command 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[01:04] <Battlestar> plenty of people are giving me commands to use...
[01:04] <Battlestar> but where do i enter them?!
[01:05] <Battlestar> i'm jst utterly confused
[01:05] <Hobbsee> Battlestar: the terminal
[01:05] <Battlestar> ok how do i open the terminal
[01:05] <sudharsh> ok fire up a virtual console 'ctrl+alt+f1'
[01:05] <Battlestar> what's the hotkey
[01:05] <sudharsh> ok fire up a virtual console 'ctrl+alt+f1'
[01:05] <UncleD> Which rc.* directories are iin charge of "bootup" and which are for "shut down?"
[01:05] <irvin> Battlestar, Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[01:05] <Hobbsee> Battlestar: unless someone says otherwise, all commands are to be used in a terminal
[01:05] <Battlestar> oh hey that worked...
[01:05] <mika0800> Battlestar: or use Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get a command screen ... and Ctrl-Alt-F7 to get back to GUI !!!
[01:05] <sudharsh> Battlestar try this command 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[01:05] <Battlestar> ctrl-alt-F1
[01:06] <sudharsh> remember ctrl+alt+f7 back again
[01:06] <coz> hello all
[01:06] <sudharsh> i think we lost him
[01:06] <UncleD> sudharsh: Which rc*.d directories are iin charge of "bootup" and which are for "shut down?"
[01:06] <Battlestar> yay finally got logged in
[01:06] <coz> anyof you familiar with flumotion?
[01:06] <mika0800> Ctrl-Alt-F1 may work with some systems.... but some seem to leave it blocked while GUI is running... that's why I suggest Ctrl-Alt-F2 instead
[01:06] <sudharsh> UncleD....sorry i dunno
[01:07] <Battlestar> it says usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root
[01:07] <sudharsh> try the readme file in the tarball
[01:07] <sudharsh> wait  while i find out
[01:07] <mika0800> Battlestar: put sudo in front of it !
[01:08] <Battlestar> ok as you can tell i'm a linux n00b...
[01:08] <Battlestar> lol
[01:09] <sobersabre> hi. I have both libdb4.2 and libdb4.3 in my breezy. I want all the programs to use 4.3 is this possible ?
[01:09] <Battlestar> ok this seems to be working...
[01:10] <dell500> !dmix
[01:10] <ubotu> from memory, dmix is at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[01:11] <coz> anyone knwo about flumotion???
[01:11] <deanm> Hi all. New to ubuntu,frizzled my graphics card replaced but how do I setup X to new card?
[01:11] <coz> http://users.on.net/~linux.au/bravery.jpg
[01:12] <lowman62> g'mornin room
[01:12] <coz> lowman63 morning to you
[01:12] <sudharsh> deanmthis command 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[01:12] <coz> do you know anything about flumotion
[01:12] <sobersabre> coz, liked that :)
[01:12] <coz> cool pic
[01:13] <lowman62> coz: sorry! honestly have never heard of it
[01:13] <coz> ok
[01:13] <sobersabre> looks more like "hey, bear!! you asked me to wake you uuuup :) well, wake uuuuup!!!"
[01:13] <deanm> thanks sudharsh, I'll go and resurect it now.
[01:14] <lowman62> ya that would be a pretty brave thing to do :P
[01:15] <coz> pic wording courtesy of quail_linux
[01:16] <coz> OK guys anyonone! know about flumotion???
[01:16] <sudharsh> whats dat
[01:16] <coz> streamer server
[01:16] <sudharsh> movement of bied flu
[01:16] <coz> streaming
[01:17] <lowman62> is it flomotion or flumotion?
[01:17] <coz> hey quail_linux welcome
[01:17] <flo> How can i run Gaim Internet Messenger????
[01:17] <sudharsh> UncleD....what mysql are u usin
[01:17] <Battlestar> ok with the xserv reconfiguration i did should that immediately fix things?
[01:17] <flo> Im a lunux noob
[01:17] <pappan> flo: it will be in the Internet menu
[01:17] <Battlestar> or do i have to reboot?
[01:17] <sudharsh> flo: Applications > Internet > Gaim
[01:18] <flo> i know
[01:18] <sudharsh> well...
[01:18] <Belboz99> hey, I'm having a problem with K3B burning DVD's.  The writing speed is too slow and they are failing verification.  Any ideas?
[01:18] <sudharsh> reboot
[01:18] <coz> Belbox99 uninstall K3b and install gnomebaker
[01:18] <sudharsh> BelBoz99: enable DMA , run k3b as sudo
[01:19] <lowman62> Belboz99: try this http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/chap10.php#burn
[01:19] <Belboz99> thanks guys!
[01:19] <coz> enabling dma does help
[01:20] <pappan> flo what problem are you facing then
[01:21] <sudharsh> UncleD....what mysql are u usin...did u d/l from apt
[01:21] <sudharsh> or from the mysql website
[01:21] <sobersabre> what is the difference between multiverse and universe ?
[01:22] <mjr> sobersabre, universe is free stuff, multiverse generally more or less proprietary or dependent on such
[01:22] <s_spiff> hello
[01:22] <flo> when i add a new account and try to connect he shows me that im not connected
[01:22] <sobersabre> mjr, like contrib and non-free in debian ?
[01:23] <sudharsh> flo : in detail plz
[01:23] <s_spiff> mjr : means that u don't gett he source..or you pay for it?
[01:23] <flo> plz? i come from germany
[01:23] <sudharsh> s_spiff : u dont pay forn anything whilest usin apt
[01:24] <s_spiff> ok, so means multiverse stuff , u don't get the source?
[01:24] <sobersabre> bdb q: does ubuntu use both libdb4.3 and libdb4.2 ?
[01:24] <sudharsh> oh sorry...flo which protocol r u usin
[01:24] <mjr> s_spiff, you might get the source (but sometimes not); you just aren't at liberty to do some things with it
[01:25] <s_spiff> achha ok.
[01:25] <mjr> sobersabre, like, yes
[01:25] <flo> aim/icq
[01:25] <Battlestar> ok i've tried reconfixuring xserv but my video is still screwed, can anyone help?
[01:25] <nalioth> !de
[01:25] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[01:25] <Battlestar> i'm on an iBook G3 laptop
[01:25] <Battlestar> with like a 12" LCd screen
[01:25] <sudharsh> can u login through the other protocols
[01:26] <lowman62> flo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto?highlight=%28gaim%29  it is in the wiki
[01:26] <Battlestar> the screen is just out of proportion, place, and overlapping itself
[01:26] <Battlestar> it's extremely weird
[01:26] <sudharsh> Battlestar,,,,do a 'cat /etc/xorg.conf'
[01:26] <Battlestar> ?
[01:26] <Belboz99> Hey, how would I enable DMA for an SATA HD?
[01:26] <Battlestar> i'm a linux n00b, please speak to me like one
[01:27] <sudharsh> k mate
[01:27] <Battlestar> so just type that in the terminal
[01:27] <Battlestar> ?
[01:27] <Belboz99> would it be "sdparm"?
[01:27] <serengeti> mika0800: i've to go now, if I find out something new I'll share :)
[01:27] <sudharsh> Battlestar..tell us the output pf 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:28] <mjr> Belboz99, you shouldn't really have to (but if your drive really isn't communicating with DMA, I don't know how to fix that)
[01:28] <lowman62> Belboz99: are you using a ThinkPad?
[01:28] <Battlestar> it doesn't exist
[01:28] <flo> ok thanks i try it
[01:28] <nalioth> Battlestar: have you been to this page? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:28] <Battlestar> you mean /etc/x11/xorg.conf?
[01:28] <nalioth> Battlestar: those ibooks are usually bulletproof in their settings
[01:29] <sudharsh> its X11 not x11] 
[01:29] <sudharsh> *x11
[01:29] <Ng> Belboz99: an SATA disk ought to have DMA enabled already
[01:29] <sudharsh> remember linux is case sesitive
[01:29] <Belboz99> mjr, lowman62, thanks, I just read that SATA has DMA already enabled
[01:29] <lowman62> Belboz99: i was just gonna say that LOL :P
[01:30] <lowman62> Belboz99: i found this just the same ...http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problems_with_SATA_and_Linux
[01:30] <sudharsh> Battlestar whatcha get
[01:31] <midwinter> how come even when you purge delete apps they still leave all their crap everywhere like in .gconf :\
[01:31] <Battlestar> hmmm not much more luck yet
[01:31] <Battlestar> this thing's still being as stubborn as ever
[01:31] <Battlestar> it's almost got me in tears here
[01:31] <Belboz99> Hey, the FIFO buffer isn't showing any info
[01:31] <sudharsh> Battlestar...cmon mate
[01:31] <lowman62> midwinter: i know what you mean :P
[01:31] <sudharsh> do a 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[01:31] <Belboz99> Niether is the Device Buffer :(
[01:32] <sudharsh> its not x11....its X11
[01:32] <Belboz99> at least I got the DVD to burn at 3x
[01:32] <Battlestar> hmm well as far as i can tell the command worked
[01:32] <lowman62> oi 3x...eww that is slow
[01:33] <theine> Hi, does anybody know where NetworkManager stores information (for instance the essid's of networks one previously connected to)?
[01:33] <Battlestar> but it didn't spit anything out in the terminal
[01:33] <Battlestar> and it hasn't fixed my problem
[01:33] <Ng> midwinter: a --purge removes system config files but never user configs, there is no way of removing a package and having it remove user configs too
[01:33] <sudharsh> Battlestar u should have got some output
[01:33] <sudharsh> xorg.conf is a file
[01:34] <flo> ok, i have it. I didnt know that i need a existing account to log in!!!!
[01:34] <lowman62> Ng: isn't there a script that will do that tho?
[01:34] <midwinter> Ng, hmm ok..
[01:34] <sudharsh> Battlestar copy and paste the command u entered,,
[01:34] <Ng> lowman62: nope
[01:34] <Battlestar> can't lol
[01:35] <lowman62> Ng: would be nice if there was one tho...hmm! :P
[01:35] <Battlestar> but i'll try and accurately read ti into here
[01:35] <melonipoika> hi all, can anyone help me configuring an ad-hoc wireless network? i get the error "connect: network is unreachable" when trying to make a ping tot he other pc...
[01:35] <Ng> midwinter: when I'm testing an application I use a test user in the nested login feature, then I can just vape its entire home directory
[01:35] <Belboz99> Hey, anyone know why my FIFO Buffer and Device Buffer show no info in K3B?
[01:35] <sudharsh> did 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' work
[01:35] <Ng> lowman62: I'm not sure that it would and it'd be really quite complex because it would need to know about every config file that could be produced by every package
[01:35] <Battlestar> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
[01:35] <Battlestar> that's the whole command
[01:36] <jawshoewah> I am toying with an idea...is it possible to test a tar.gz for compatibility before unpacking?
[01:36] <sudharsh> alrite u r backing up the file
[01:36] <midwinter> Ng, okay i'll look into that maybe, thanks
[01:36] <sudharsh> now check the contents of xorg.conf
[01:36] <Ng> jawshoewah: you could use "tar tzf foo.tgz" - that'll list the files in the tarball if it's valid
[01:36] <sudharsh> and see for abnormalities
[01:36] <lowman62> Ng: that is true...but like midwinter said it is irritating that all that does not get cleaned up when you remove an app
[01:37] <alekandr> Anyone got steam to work on breezy?
[01:37] <CosminG> how can I use the webcam on ubuntu???????
[01:37] <melonipoika> does anyone know that can be wrong when i get the error "network is unreachable"? i have no idea where to look for that...
[01:37] <Battlestar> ok so how do i check the file for abnormalities
[01:37] <Ng> alekandr: yes, but I used cedega
[01:37] <CosminG> how can I use the webcam on ubuntu???????
[01:37] <jawshoewah> ng: will that actually test compatibility with a particualr system?
[01:37] <Belboz99> alekander, you mean Steam from Valve?
[01:37] <sudharsh> Battlestar is ur video card and all getting detected correctly
[01:38] <Ng> jawshoewah: only in that if tar doesn't understand the file it will fail to list them, it's not actually a test operation though
[01:38] <alekandr> Ng: does it run well?
[01:38] <sudharsh> CosminG google spca5xx and 'apt-get install camorama'
[01:38] <alekandr> Belboz99: yeah :] 
[01:38] <Ng> alekandr: it runs well enough to play, but it's not as fast or pretty as running in windows. it's enough for me to get my fill of killing terrorists though ;)
[01:38] <CosminG> sudharsh thanks
[01:39] <alekandr> oh man
[01:39] <alekandr> i need to play cs:s :)
[01:39] <UncleD> If im sshd into my machine, is there a reason why I would suddenly get disconnected from the box (reconnecting no problem) ?
[01:39] <sudharsh> alekandr: subscribe for cedega
[01:39] <Belboz99> alekandr, I got it to run.  HL2 didn't have the best FPS though.  AA didn't work, and I still haven't figured out how to get my resolution up to 1152x864 @75hz.
[01:39] <alekandr> well its either wine, or cedega steam and cs:s for a windows server 03 vmware
[01:39] <Ng> UncleD: does it disconnect after a period of inactivity? If so it's a router cutting an idle connection (which ssh can work around)
[01:39] <alekandr> or
[01:39] <ccc_> Belboz99: there is a native linux version for AA
[01:40] <Belboz99> ccc_ can you point me in the right direction?
[01:40] <Ng> alekandr: vmware is useless for games like cs:s
[01:40] <Battlestar> hmm well as far as i can tell it's being detected sorrectly
[01:40] <Battlestar> *correctly
[01:40] <UncleD> Ng: No, it was right after I ran a ./configure script
[01:40] <UncleD> suddenly i got d/c'd
[01:40] <alekandr> :(
[01:40] <sudharsh> ok mate give me the output in pvt
[01:40] <Battlestar> detects it as a ATI mobility M3 or something
[01:40] <ccc_> Belboz99: google for their homepage, it's available there
[01:40] <alekandr> ok, cedega it is
[01:40] <UncleD> Ng: How can I workaround via ssh the inactivity problem though, I have that too.
[01:40] <sudharsh> alekandr: cedega aint free
[01:40] <Battlestar> the problem is i don't know what the vsyc ranges and stuf are for the lcd screen
[01:40] <alekandr> I know :] 
[01:41] <sudharsh> meen either....i dont use lcd...
[01:41] <sudharsh> did 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' work
[01:41] <Ng> UncleD: edit ~/.ssh/config and put two lines at the top, the first with "Host *" on and the second with "ServerAliveInterval 60" - that will make it send a keepalive packet every minute
[01:41] <sudharsh> i mean reconfigure X
[01:42] <Belboz99> ccc_ thanks.  Oddly enough I just rememberd I have nvidia-settings.  In nvidia-settings I was able to increase the AA and AF :)
[01:42] <Krishnautix> can someone help me mount a master hdd?
[01:42] <Battlestar> yes well this is a 12" lcd screen on a lapto
[01:42] <UncleD> Ng.. I don't seem to have an .ssh/config
[01:42] <Battlestar> and atm it's quite messy
[01:42] <Ng> UncleD: that's fine, it's not there by default, so create it :)
[01:43] <ccc_> Belboz99: oh, i thought you meant AA = america's army :O
[01:43] <Belboz99> anyone know how I can get Ubuntu to run on 1152x864 res @ 75Hz
[01:43] <Belboz99> ccc_ lol :)
[01:43] <ccc_> :)
[01:43] <Bjelleklang> ubuntu/kubuntu: is the only difference gnome/kde?
[01:43] <nalioth> Bjelleklang: pretty much, yes. :)
[01:43] <Krishnautix> hey why does it say my nicks already taken?
[01:43] <Rawplayer> good job sherlock
[01:43] <Belboz99> I have xorg configured properly AFAIK, but Ubuntu just won't let me change the res
[01:43] <Krishnautix>  I had registered it...
[01:44] <nalioth> Krishnautix: /msg nickserv help ghost
[01:44] <Krishnautix>  and I can see myself online ..s_spiff! when I'm online via Krishnautix!
[01:45] <UncleD> Ng: is that like some kind of NOOP?
[01:45] <Battlestar> oh i'm so frustrated right now...
[01:45] <Battlestar> i wish i'd never formatted OSX off my laptop
[01:45] <Krishnautix> it gives an error that no channel joined, nalioth .
[01:45] <Ng> UncleD: yup
[01:45] <UncleD> Ng: I'm adding that to my host machine or the remote server I connect too?
[01:45] <Krishnautix>  infact eevn while registering I had the same error
[01:45] <Ng> UncleD: on your host machine
[01:45] <sudharsh> Battlestar dont giv up hope jus yet
[01:45] <Ng> UncleD: the "Host *" means it'll then apply to any remote server you connect to from that machine
[01:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Krishnautix about ghost
[01:46] <alvien> yhyg
[01:47] <sudharsh> Battlestar...jus tell me did  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  work or not
[01:47] <Battlestar> no
[01:47] <Krishnautix> brb
[01:47] <NeF> Hey howzit
[01:47] <sudharsh> what error did u get
[01:47] <Battlestar> no error
[01:47] <sudharsh> wait a sec...did u select the server install
[01:47] <Battlestar> everything should be fine but my screen just looks crazy
[01:47] <NeF> I installed ubuntu and when it loads the Grub it gives an "error 18"
[01:47] <Battlestar> server install?
[01:48] <Krishnautix> last time apparently my nick wasn't registered
[01:48] <Krishnautix>  so now i cant kill that ghost..
[01:48] <Krishnautix>  what to do?
[01:48] <sudharsh> ok Battlestar...plz do this command ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[01:49] <nalioth> Krishnautix: you are stuck if you havent registered your nick, and someone else is using it
[01:49] <sudharsh> mate..did ur installtion go fine or did it complain bout mismathcin resolutions
[01:49] <NeF> who me?
[01:50] <sudharsh> guyz i jus compiled the 2.6.25 kernel but when i boot through it the usplash is all messed up
[01:50] <Battlestar> ok entered the reconfiguration again
[01:50] <misiek> hi there , i have a problem installing ubuntu
[01:50] <sudharsh> *oops 2.6.15
[01:50] <sudharsh> k man tell me whats the 1st screen
[01:50] <sudharsh> i'll go along with ya
[01:50] <NeF> i get an error 18 after installation
[01:50] <Battlestar> title is configuring xserver-xorg
[01:51] <Battlestar> just has the opton for autodectecting video card
[01:51] <concept10> Is it my install, or is Firefox 1.5 full of bugs and memory leaks?
[01:51] <Battlestar> i usually select yes
[01:51] <sudharsh> now dont attempt to detect automatically
[01:51] <Battlestar> k
[01:51] <misiek> first of all when the installer reaches the user and password cration  it seems to go in a never ending loop
[01:51] <sudharsh> tell me whatcha u getting
[01:52] <sudharsh> u'll get the 'Select the desired X-server..
[01:52] <onkarshinde> Can anyone tell me it is at all possible to play dvds using totem-gstreamer by installing varioud gstreamer plugins in breezy?
[01:52] <misiek> its asking me on and on again to type the new user name and password
[01:52] <s_spiff> finally!
[01:53] <sudharsh> onkarshinde: install totem-xine
[01:53] <Battlestar> ok nowit wants me to select the appropriate dirver
[01:53] <s_spiff> hey I want to install new icon set..how do i do it?
[01:53] <sudharsh> bingo...what video card do u hav
[01:53] <sakkew> ubuntu installation should have a big warning message about risks in installing grub. i wonder how many installations it has messed up.
[01:53] <nalioth> onkarshinde: of course it is
[01:53] <onkarshinde> sudharsh: I already know that. I was just wondering why gstreamer lacks the functionality
[01:53] <Battlestar> ati, ships, fbdev, glint, imstt, mga, nv, riva128, s3, etc.
[01:53] <Battlestar> hmmm
[01:53] <s_spiff> icon themes it called on gnome-look.org
[01:53] <Battlestar> well i have no idea
[01:53] <sudharsh> k now select vesa
[01:53] <onkarshinde> nalioth: and which plugins would you suggest in addition to default?
[01:54] <Battlestar> although from memory i think it's an ati of some sort
[01:54] <lordasbach> *tada*
[01:54] <sudharsh> no dont do an ati...select vesa
[01:54] <Battlestar> there is no vesa
[01:54] <Davey`> is there some configuration for the "locate" command to tell it which folders to index?
[01:54] <onkarshinde> Battlestar: do a 'lspci' in console to find out
[01:54] <sudharsh> scroll down
[01:54] <sudharsh> there should be vesa
[01:55] <Battlestar> there is no scolling
[01:55] <Battlestar> the last one on the list is VGA
[01:55] <sudharsh> push the 'down arrow'
[01:55] <Battlestar> that's the only v on the list
[01:55] <s_spiff> can some one help me with installing new icon themes?
[01:55] <sudharsh> k man seems u r havin a Apple computer
[01:55] <nalioth> onkarshinde: ask ubotu about dvd. if totem won't play dvd's, very likely it is looking at the wrong mount point
[01:55] <sudharsh> select vga
[01:55] <onkarshinde> !dvd
[01:56] <Battlestar> k
[01:56] <Battlestar> now it wans me to input an identifier
[01:56] <Battlestar> it already has a ATI card name in there
[01:56] <Battlestar> Rage mobility M3
[01:56] <s_spiff> ! installing icon themes
[01:56] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, s_spiff
[01:56] <misiek> anyone can help me with the new user creation during install problem?
[01:56] <sudharsh> cool...select ok
[01:56] <onkarshinde> nalioth: I can't play dvds very well with totem-gstreamer, i can play them with totem-xine. How to identify if my dvd is encrypted?
[01:56] <misiek> oh and i have a problem with X too
[01:56] <sudharsh> s_spiff u must extract the icon themes in .icons
[01:57] <onkarshinde> misiek: what is problem?
[01:57] <s_spiff> ok.
[01:57] <nalioth> onkarshinde: they all are, have you installed libdvdcss and libdvdread?
[01:57] <s_spiff>  thanks
[01:57] <onkarshinde> nalioth: yes, I have
[01:57] <Battlestar> ok now it is goin on abotu bus entry
[01:57] <nalioth> onkarshinde: then i'm unsure why one won't play but the other will
[01:57] <sudharsh> select ok
[01:57] <misiek>  when the installer reaches the user and password cration  it seems to go in a never ending loop
[01:57] <Battlestar> but says it's not applicable if you only have one video card
[01:57] <misiek> asking for new user on and on
[01:58] <onkarshinde> misiek: can you explain more?
[01:58] <sudharsh> nvr mind,....jus proceed
[01:58] <Battlestar> ok default bus in CPI:0:16:0
[01:58] <onkarshinde> Battlestar: use lspci command which card
[01:58] <Battlestar> i can't onkarshinde, doing recondfig atm
[01:58] <onkarshinde> !gstreamer
[01:58] <ubotu> onkarshinde: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:59] <s_spiff> sudharsh, Once i extract them there, then what?
[01:59] <misiek> when i create a user and a passwrd it will ask for another one and then for another and so on
[01:59] <s_spiff> sorry, I'm a noob to this..
[01:59] <sudharsh> select the theme from System > Preferences > theme
[01:59] <Battlestar> ok next is dedicated memory fromt eh system memory
[01:59] <misiek> i can go back to the main menu and skip user creation but then im whithout a user
[01:59] <onkarshinde> Battlestar: are you not in GUI? Then use Ctrl+Alt+F2 to open another text console
[01:59] <Battlestar> not appliccable cause my card has a whole 4MB of memory or something
[02:00] <sudharsh> k then ju press enter
[02:00] <nalioth> Battlestar: may i ask just what ibook you have? the exact model?
[02:00] <Battlestar> i don't know the exact model ibook
[02:00] <Battlestar> it's like 5 years off
[02:00] <Battlestar> 233MHz
[02:00] <Battlestar> *old
[02:00] <onkarshinde> Is rhythmbox not instaled by default in breezy? Because when I upgraded from hoary to breezy then rhythmbox wasn't upgraded.
[02:00] <Battlestar> 192MB SDRAM
[02:01] <Battlestar> and yea the VGA controller is a ATI Rage mobility M3
[02:01] <sudharsh> vow...Battlestar what r u gettin now
[02:01] <misiek>  when i create a user and a passwrd it will ask for another one and then for another and so on
[02:01] <misiek> i can go back to the main menu and skip user creation but then im whithout a user
[02:01] <Battlestar> kernel frambuffer option
[02:02] <Battlestar> default is yes
[02:02] <sudharsh> enable the thing
[02:02] <Battlestar> then keyboard layout
[02:02] <jessy> #zlatograd
[02:02] <Battlestar> select no to canel redetect?
[02:02] <Battlestar> \*cancel
[02:02] <sudharsh> Battlestar autodetect the keyboard layout
[02:02] <Battlestar> k
[02:03] <Battlestar> eneterd keyboard as "us"
[02:03] <jawshoewah> I installed beep last night and in no time was enjoying listening to my m4a files while playing net panzer...I went to sleep and when I awoke went to start beep then xmms i click nothing happens...any comments?
[02:03] <sudharsh> the followin screens should be self explainatory
[02:03] <Battlestar> XKB rule set...
[02:03] <seishi> what can i do to put a perl script on boot?
[02:03] <Battlestar> default is xorg
[02:03] <sudharsh> follow the default
[02:04] <Battlestar> ok next is keyboard model
[02:04] <Battlestar> default is pc104
[02:04] <seishi> =p
[02:04] <sudharsh> tell me when u get to the select xorg modules
[02:04] <NeF> can some1 help me with my istallation with ubuntu?
[02:04] <Battlestar> ok
[02:04] <Battlestar> flicking thru keyboard and mouse stuff
[02:05] <Battlestar> ok up to xorg modules now
[02:05] <Battlestar> what do i do /me runs around in circles
[02:05] <onkarshinde> seishi: edit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh and add 'perl /path/to/yourscript.pl' to it
[02:05] <seishi> thanks
[02:05] <sudharsh> select ok
[02:06] <onkarshinde> NeF: what is problem
[02:06] <Battlestar> write default files section to configuration files?
[02:06] <NeF> i installed it, it then asks me to reboot and awsners some questions on my pc but b4 it gets there my pc stops at the Grub loading and gives an "error 18"
[02:06] <sudharsh> yup
[02:06] <Battlestar> write default DRI section to configuration file?
[02:06] <sudharsh> ypu
[02:06] <sudharsh> *yup
[02:07] <Battlestar> monitor autodetect?
[02:07] <onkarshinde> NeF: is there any explanation for error? What are you trying to install on? Is it external drive?
[02:07] <s_spiff> someone can help me with mounting a master hdd?
[02:07] <sudharsh> ok mate this may get dirty...dont autodetect
[02:07] <onkarshinde> s_spiff: I suppose I can
[02:07] <Battlestar> enter identifier
[02:07] <s_spiff> i have a master hdd, 120 gb...6 partitions
[02:07] <s_spiff>  all fat 32
[02:07] <Battlestar> i'm jst using "generic monitor
[02:08] <sudharsh> hmm.....
[02:08] <onkarshinde> s_spiff: so what exactly do you want to do?
[02:08] <sudharsh> well select that for now
[02:08] <s_spiff>  and i wanna mount them at boot up ..so that i can read/write and execute the stuff on those partitions
[02:08] <Battlestar> ok video modes?
[02:08] <NeF> onkarshinde: trying to install it on a 30gig hdd, master settings
[02:08] <Battlestar> 1024x768 and down are all selected
[02:08] <lowman62> NeF: error 18 means that your slected cylinder exceeds maximum supported by the BIOS
[02:08] <sudharsh> k..whats the ur screen size
[02:08] <Battlestar> 12"
[02:09] <onkarshinde> s_spiff: Is it master or slave?
[02:09] <sudharsh> what resolution did u use in OSX
[02:09] <onkarshinde> !ntfs
[02:09] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[02:09] <NeF> lowman62: what must i do then
[02:09] <s_spiff> i'm online slave right now... the 120 is a master
[02:09] <s_spiff>  i'm botted via 80 ..
[02:09] <onkarshinde> s_spiff: may be this will help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:09] <lowman62> in short it means that the BIOS is unable to start execution of the kernel because the kernel is not located withiin a block that it can access
[02:09] <Battlestar> 800x600 pretty sure
[02:10] <s_spiff>  in the bio, i changed the second boot device to the 80 gb hdd.
[02:10] <NeF> o
[02:10] <s_spiff> ok
[02:10] <Battlestar> tried that already but didn't make a difference
[02:10] <sudharsh> k then check if its enabled
[02:10] <Battlestar> only enable 640x480?
[02:10] <onkarshinde> NeF: did you do anything weird between the installation and rebbot?
[02:10] <lowman62> NeF: you can find the solution to this in this thread http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=122656&highlight=grub+error+collection
[02:10] <sudharsh> i didnt get you....is only 640x480 enabled?
[02:11] <Battlestar> no 640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768 are all enabled
[02:11] <NeF> onkarshinde: no
[02:11] <lowman62> looks to me like you need to partition your drive into two
[02:11] <Battlestar> do you want me to disable the last 2
[02:11] <NeF> lowman62: ta
[02:11] <s_spiff> hey i just click on the link u gave onkarshinde , and the [ since i've installed KDE just yesterday]  the link opened in Konkueror!
[02:11] <lowman62> NeF: yw :)
[02:11] <s_spiff>  how to i sepearte these two damn envionments!!!!
[02:11] <sudharsh> hmm...finish the configuration
[02:11] <jorge_> algun espaol por ahi?
[02:11] <Battlestar> with or without disabling the two higher resultions?
[02:12] <sudharsh> no dont disable anything
[02:12] <Battlestar> k
[02:12] <ompaul> !es
[02:12] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:12] <sudharsh> as of now
[02:12] <Battlestar> ok next is monitor characteristics
[02:12] <jawshoewah> wouls using two sound sources simultaneously cause xmms and beep to uninstall or not work by themselves?
[02:12] <Battlestar> simple medium or advanced?
[02:12] <onkarshinde> s_spiff: you can set preffered browser in System->Preferences->Prefered Applications
[02:12] <sudharsh> do it simple
[02:13] <Battlestar> lol it has 17 inch monitor selected by default
[02:13] <Battlestar> the lowest it goes it "up to 14""
[02:13] <gypsymauro> hello
[02:13] <lowman62> hello
[02:13] <sudharsh> vow...then i guess we zeroed into the problem
[02:13] <lapducky> jawshoewah, a rootkit can be used to 'mysteriously' uninstall things, but short of that -- no things do not uninstall themselves -- ever.
[02:13] <sudharsh> select the lowest res then
[02:13] <gypsymauro> I can't install emacs-snapshot on breezy it says there is a problem of depencencies on emacs-snapshot-bin-common any hint?
[02:13] <Battlestar> don't think so
[02:13] <NeF> lowman62 ta :D
[02:14] <Battlestar> i selected the lowest res last time lol
[02:14] <s_spiff> onkarshinde, thanks you very much! it worked!
[02:14] <Battlestar> but sure i'll try it again
[02:14] <NeF> onkarshinde thanx sa well :D
[02:14] <NeF> as*
[02:14] <lowman62> NeF: no prob had the same prob on the weekend that solved it for me
[02:14] <sudharsh> well u selected vesa this time...remeber
[02:14] <NeF> hehe
[02:14] <NeF> cheers :D
[02:14] <Battlestar> ok next is write sync ranges to configuration file?
[02:14] <lowman62> cheers
[02:14] <sudharsh> okie dokie
[02:15] <Battlestar> k
[02:15] <Battlestar> colour depth...
[02:15] <Battlestar> 24 bit?
[02:15] <jawshoewah> lapducky: it's strange both bleep and xmms worked flawlessy last night and today i click on the application menu and nothing happens
[02:15] <sudharsh> geez...did OSX support 24 bit?...forgive me mate
[02:15] <Battlestar> lol
[02:15] <Battlestar> it supported 32 bit
[02:16] <lowman62> jawshoewah: do you have any sound at all on your computer?
[02:16] <Battlestar> 24 is selected by feault anyway
[02:16] <sudharsh> did u know 24 n 32 are the same except for the additional alpha channels
[02:16] <Battlestar> yes it says that here
[02:16] <sudharsh> go ahead and select the the 24 bit thingy
[02:16] <Battlestar> ok configuration overwirtten
[02:16] <Battlestar> it should be done
[02:17] <lowman62> jawshoewah: when you boot up do you hear sound?
[02:17] <sudharsh> reboot....
[02:17] <Ng> you generally can't get more than 2^24 colours, but using 32bit instead of 24bit means a) you get some alpha stuff, b) word boundaries line up far better which makes memory access faster
[02:17] <Battlestar> k
[02:17] <Battlestar> how do i reboot in console?
[02:17] <sudharsh> is everythin done
[02:17] <Battlestar> yea
[02:17] <lowman62> rebbot
[02:17] <Battlestar> should be
[02:17] <lowman62> reboot
[02:17] <Fanskapet> Battlestar: sudo -s
[02:17] <lowman62> :P
[02:17] <sudharsh> sudo init 6
[02:17] <jawshoewah> yes sound works fine
[02:17] <Fanskapet> and then reboot
[02:17] <redguy|work> shutdown -r now
[02:17] <nalioth> Battlestar: sudo shutdown -r now
[02:18] <lapducky> jawshoewah, there are several things that can go wrong besides uninstallation.  I think you're barking up the correct tree when looking at the sound server (just confused about *how* it can break).
[02:18] <Fanskapet> or
[02:18] <AIV> does someone know of internet radio that I could play using my ubuntu?
[02:18] <Fanskapet> su -c reboot
[02:18] <Fanskapet> :)
[02:18] <nalioth> AIV: shoutcast.com
[02:18] <Battlestar> ok restarting
[02:18] <Battlestar> hpefully this fixes it
[02:18] <redguy|work> Fanskapet: you need to have a root account enabled to do that
[02:18] <onkarshinde> AIV: install streamtuner and you will have lots of stations
[02:18] <AIV> nalioth, thanks
[02:19] <Battlestar> if it doesn't i'm going to bed and gonna deal with it tomorow
[02:19] <lapducky> jawshoewah, crimsun is the one to ask about weird sound issues.
[02:19] <jawshoewah> for example rythmbox still plays but when called xmms and beep dont respond...so alsa?
[02:19] <sudharsh> k mate...jus tell me if it does
[02:19] <Friar> whats the chmod command to make something executable?
[02:19] <Battlestar> k
[02:19] <jawshoewah> possibly?
[02:19] <onkarshinde> jawshoewah: try to select different plugin in beep and xmms, preferably alsa
[02:19] <AIV> onkarshinde, thanks
[02:20] <lowman62> Friar: yes you can us chmod to change permissions to make something executable or not
[02:20] <lapducky> jawshoewah, have you checked all the 'silly' things that may have gone wrong.  I.e. pathname and executeable are correct, as well as file permissions?
[02:20] <onkarshinde> Friar: chmod 755 filename
[02:20] <lowman62> sudo chmod +x  filename
[02:20] <jawshoewah> errrr I will attempt ..i actueally know not where to look for those settings in the modules
[02:21] <Battlestar> uh oh
[02:21] <Battlestar> blue screen on startup
[02:21] <Battlestar> i didn't think that was possible in linux :P
[02:21] <lowman62> LOL
[02:21] <onkarshinde> jawshoewah: for xmms Ctrl+P is shortcut for preferences, go to output plugins
[02:21] <sudharsh> damn....jus a blue screen
[02:21] <Friar> hhas anyone managed to get Kbasic installed?
[02:21] <sudharsh> nothin else???
[02:22] <Battlestar> "faield to start X server"
[02:22] <Battlestar> "it is likely that it is not set up correctly"
[02:22] <sudharsh> looks like u hav to go through the configuration again
[02:22] <jawshoewah> xmms wont launch though
[02:22] <Battlestar> "would you like to view the x server output to diagnose the problem?"
[02:22] <lowman62> Friar: I used a rpm and alien it into a deb package and installed it
[02:22] <onkarshinde> jawshoewah: try to launch from console to see if there is any error
[02:23] <sudharsh> dont send me to hell.......jus select ati
[02:23] <Friar> nm i think i found a howto on the forums
[02:23] <Battlestar> lol
[02:23] <sudharsh> and go through the process once again
[02:23] <jawshoewah> oh that trick works for more than just firefox...i should experiment more..
[02:23] <Battlestar> do i want to view the Xserver output?
[02:23] <Battlestar> no?
[02:23] <sudharsh> not needed...ur card is the culprit
[02:24] <sudharsh> i suppose u'll be led into a configuration screen
[02:24] <allison_1984> why am I not able to configure my ethernet connection ? some help....
[02:25] <jawshoewah> at $ xmms nothing happens
[02:25] <jawshoewah> blinking cursor no gui
[02:25] <onkarshinde> jawshoewah: ho did you install xmms and beep?
[02:25] <jawshoewah> in gui applications>ADD APlications
[02:26] <Battlestar> ok i'mgoing back thru the config
[02:26] <onkarshinde> jawshoewah: And have you played it at least once after installation?
[02:26] <lapducky> Anyone -- I've just install the binary GL (accelerated) drivers for Nvidia using Synaptic and the package pulled in a 386 kernel image.  I already have the 686 image of that version installed.  Why is this?  When I boot the machine will it change the default kernel in GRUB?  (If not, what good is it doing on my machine?)
[02:26] <Friar> is alien easy to use?
[02:26] <lowman62> jawshoewah: try /usr/bin/xmms & at console and see if that opens it up
[02:26] <sudharsh> Friar: damn easy..
[02:26] <jawshoewah> yes the first time i used beep was last night
[02:26] <jawshoewah> i used it while playing netpanzer
[02:26] <Battlestar> back up to xserver modules
[02:26] <Battlestar> so far
[02:26] <onkarshinde> lapducky: you pulled wrong version of glx driver. You should have pulled one for 686 kernel
[02:27] <deFrysk> Friar, easy to use though the created packages do not always work properly so make sure if there is a .deb available befor you use it
[02:27] <jawshoewah> same responce with /usr/bin/xmms
[02:28] <lowman62> jawshoewah: what is the response please?
[02:28] <sudharsh> ok Battlestar..when u come to seleceting ur video dirver select ati
[02:28] <jawshoewah> two sounds sources one audio card
[02:28] <Battlestar> oh and a note: it says in configuring screen parameters that simple is not useable for LCD screens
[02:28] <onkarshinde> jawshoewah: on console try 'sudo apt-get install xmms'
[02:28] <Battlestar> yea already past there
[02:28] <jawshoewah> at the terminal i type the command it send cursor to next line a blinks
[02:28] <sudharsh> selected sti?
[02:28] <sudharsh> *ati?
[02:28] <Battlestar> yep
[02:28] <Battlestar> i'm up to monitor setings again
[02:29] <lowman62> jawshoewah: try ....  whereis xmms
[02:29] <Battlestar> so wanna try medium or advanced this time?
[02:29] <onkarshinde> jawshoewah: no, first press Ctrl+C
[02:29] <sudharsh> k lets start with advanced
[02:29] <Battlestar> i have no idea what the refresh on this LCD panel is though
[02:29] <StyXman> hi all
[02:29] <Battlestar> says enter horizontal sync rage
[02:29] <Battlestar> already has 28-51 there
[02:29] <misiek> Okey lets sum up my problems with ubuntu installation:
[02:29] <misiek> 1. During install when i create a user and a passwrd it will ask for another one and then for another and so on.
[02:29] <misiek> I can go back to the main menu and skip user creation but then i get errors on logon.
[02:29] <misiek> 2. X-problem: Why the hell does it ask me about the location of graphics card? It is prefilled with PCI:2:0:0 or something. I have an AGP ati radeon card. I dont remember this question installing debian on my laptop...
[02:29] <misiek> Now the driver: i tried autodetect (i think it choose vesa) as well as ati. And i end up with Xerror "cant find a screen" or something... I remember getting the same error on debian when i chose the wrong driver.
[02:30] <nalioth> ar misiek
[02:30] <lapducky> onkarshinde, I checked the repositories -- there is only one version (aside from the various flavours like -dev -dbg).  Did you actually look that up?
[02:30] <lapducky> =P
[02:30] <Battlestar> ok so am i going with what's already there?
[02:30] <sudharsh> k proceed
[02:30] <Munchkinguy> Im testing out Ubuntu on a Live CD. Im trying to set up my PPPoE internet connection.
[02:30] <Munchkinguy> I went to the Network Connections setup program, but the only thing I could do was change the properties of existing connections.
[02:30] <lapducky> ANd, BTW, the other flavours all have the same dependencies?
[02:30] <Battlestar> then same for vertical
[02:30] <Munchkinguy> I couldnt press the add connection button because it wasnt there.
[02:30] <Battlestar> 43-60 already in there
[02:30] <sudharsh> vow....this is interesting u'll b
[02:31] <Munchkinguy> could somebody help?
[02:31] <jawshoewah> what is ctrl-c for?
[02:31] <StyXman> I'm fighting against network manager. it keeps reconfiguring my network to non-working values. and I can't seem to get rid of it. I already stoped hotplug-net and hotplug, killed it, but it's still there fsking my conf.
[02:31] <sudharsh> thats it try rebooting
[02:31] <onkarshinde> lapducky: can you tell me what was package name?
[02:31] <Battlestar> k rebooting now
[02:31] <jawshoewah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6833
[02:32] <StyXman> Munchkinguy: yes, somebody could help. just make your question.
[02:32] <sudharsh> hang on..
[02:32] <Munchkinguy> I just stated my problem above
[02:32] <misiek> Okey lets sum up my problems with ubuntu installation:
[02:32] <misiek> 1. During install when i create a user and a passwrd it will ask for another one and then for another and so on.
[02:32] <misiek> I can go back to the main menu and skip user creation but then i get errors on logon.
[02:32] <misiek> 2. X-problem: Why the hell does it ask me about the location of graphics card? It is prefilled with PCI:2:0:0 or something. I have an AGP ati radeon card. I dont remember this question installing debian on my laptop...
[02:32] <misiek> Now the driver: i tried autodetect (i think it choose vesa) as well as ati. And i end up with Xerror "cant find a screen" or something... I remember getting the same error on debian when i chose the wrong driver.
[02:33] <lowman62> jawshoewah: close synaptic first
[02:33] <nalioth> misiek: read the /topic please
[02:33] <StyXman> misiek: we read you the fisrt time, thanks
[02:33] <jawshoewah> says its already the newest version
[02:33] <Munchkinguy> My problem is that I'm trying to set up a PPPoE internet connection, but the "Add Connection" button has mysteriously disappeared
[02:34] <lowman62> jawshoewah: it is installed already
[02:34] <lowman62> yes you have the latest and greatest
[02:34] <jawshoewah> correct but it wont launch..neither will beep
[02:34] <lapducky> onkarshinde, nvidia-glx (I guess you didn't really consider my question the first time, heh-heh)
[02:34] <nalioth> misiek: we appreciate your efforts to help yourself, but pastebin that stuff and show folks the URL to the pastebin
[02:34] <Battlestar> i can't believe this
[02:34] <thegladiator> kubuntu
[02:34] <sudharsh> waht worked???
[02:34] <onkarshinde> jawshoewah: so the problem lies at some other corner. I mean xmms is properly installed still it won't launch. Not a problem with xmms
[02:34] <Battlestar> it's still saying my x server isn't set up properly
[02:34] <lowman62> one sec jawshoewah am checking into something for you
[02:34] <jawshoewah> ty
[02:35] <lowman62> yw :)
[02:35] <Battlestar> hmmmm
[02:35] <sudharsh> k mate......plz bear with me
[02:35] <onkarshinde> lapducky: just wanted to confirm. I don't understand why it pulled a kernel. Anyways your default option won't change with installation of new kernel.
[02:35] <misiek> i dont undestand pastebin
[02:35] <sudharsh> do an autodetect this time
[02:36] <CanYouHelpMePlz> misiek: pastebin.com
[02:36] <Munchkinguy> StyXman: Do you know how to fix my internet problem?
[02:36] <misiek> thanks
[02:36] <ompaul> misiek, it is a web page paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:36] <Battlestar> hold on i just tried reconfiguring it differently
[02:36] <nalioth> misiek: you copy that stuff you're pasting in here, into the blank space at paste.ubuntulinux.nl   Click "send" and bring us back the URL that comes up
[02:36] <Battlestar> see if this one works
[02:36] <sudharsh> yup
[02:36] <Battlestar> i think i know something that could have caused the problem...
[02:36] <Battlestar> well that time anyway
[02:37] <sudharsh> what...:)
[02:37] <Battlestar> if this doesn't work i dunno what will
[02:37] <lowman62> jawshoewah: have tried just this at prompt since it is already in your path ... "xmms &" without quotes?
[02:37] <jawshoewah> will try
[02:37] <lowman62> ok
[02:37] <lowman62> let me know
[02:37] <lapducky> onkarshinde, whenever I deliberately install a kernel image, it seems too.  I think debconf does this -- but maybe it only prefers newer or more specific architectures when updating GRUB/LILO...   =P
[02:37] <misiek> http://pastebin.com/497709
[02:37] <sudharsh> Battlestar...what wont work..
[02:38] <Battlestar> oh it was a number i changed last time when i went thru the config
[02:38] <Battlestar> i just changed it back to see if i cause yet another problem
[02:38] <jawshoewah> enter text at terminal xmms hit return cursor goes to next line and blinks as if it s running without a gui
[02:38] <Battlestar> lol
[02:38] <jawshoewah> lsmod
[02:38] <jawshoewah> ?
[02:38] <Battlestar> okay i'm not getting an effor message anymore so i was right about theat one
[02:38] <Battlestar> but i'm back at square 1
[02:38] <jawshoewah> will that list it as a process?
[02:39] <Battlestar> back wiht my demented scren
[02:39] <lowman62> jawshoewah: sounds to me like it is running in process kill that process or however many of them you got going
[02:39] <sudharsh> well.....do the same stuff...selecting ati
[02:39] <Battlestar> that's what i just did
[02:39] <jawshoewah> how do i do that?\
[02:39] <lowman62> yes ps -al
[02:39] <sudharsh> k Battlestar......go 2 a termina;
[02:40] <jawshoewah> my linux toys 2 book only has som many abcs of linux in appendix!
[02:40] <lowman62> ctrl+c first to get your prompt back then
[02:40] <Munchkinguy> lowman62: Im testing out Ubuntu on a Live CD. Im trying to set up my PPPoE internet connection.
[02:40] <sylvyo> hello
[02:40] <Battlestar> ok in terminal
[02:40] <Munchkinguy> but the "add connection" button is missing
[02:40] <sylvyo> hey
[02:40] <sylvyo> WHERE ARE YOU FROM?
[02:40] <lowman62> ps -al <--should show you the PID kille'm
[02:40] <sudharsh> u mite feel like killing me
[02:40] <onkarshinde> lapducky: Ahh. I observed once. Its only that your default option is constant but your kernel listing has changed. 386 will be listed before 686 in grub menu
[02:41] <nalioth> sylvyo: join #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting please, #ubuntu is a help and support channel
[02:41] <sylvyo> ok
[02:41] <sudharsh> type 'sudo cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:41] <sylvyo> THANKS SUCKER
[02:41] <AIV> using streamcast, I can't tune into ant stations, the error I get is "failed to execute child processes "xmms" (no such file or directory)"
[02:41] <sylvyo> jkl
[02:41] <sylvyo> d
[02:41] <sylvyo> s
[02:41] <sylvyo> fds
[02:41] <sylvyo> fsd
[02:41] <sylvyo> f
[02:41] <sylvyo> sd
[02:41] <sylvyo> f
[02:41] <sylvyo> sd
[02:41] <misiek> i posted on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6834 as well
[02:41] <AIV> does anyone know what that is all about?
[02:42] <Battlestar> hmm well that made a blur of information pass thru my screen
[02:42] <Munchkinguy> I wouldn't mind some "help and support"
[02:42] <lowman62> thanks nalioth..re sylvyo
[02:42] <nalioth> lowman62: we all do what we can
[02:43] <sudharsh> Battlestar gimme the contents in pvt
[02:43] <lowman62> well i appreciate it :)
[02:43] <Battlestar> how di do it in private
[02:43] <onkarshinde> Munchkinguy: go on.
[02:43] <Battlestar> how do i give u the contents fullstop
[02:43] <nalioth> Battlestar: use a pastebin
[02:43] <sudharsh> well copy em
[02:43] <{{brooklyn}}> Munchkinguy
[02:43] <sudharsh> copy-paste
[02:43] <Battlestar> ok explain copy....
[02:43] <Munchkinguy> Im testing out Ubuntu on a Live CD. Im trying to set up my PPPoE internet connection.
[02:44] <gypsymauro> hello I've doenloaded some packages and then created a cd using dpkg-scanpackages, now I can add my cd  with apt-cdrom add but when I try to install a packages from the CD apt-get says "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" a list of packages and "Install these packages without verification [y/N] ", how I can make them authenticated?
[02:44] <{{brooklyn}}> i also have same problem
[02:44] <Munchkinguy> I went to the Network Connections setup program, but the only thing I could do was change the properties of existing connections. I couldnt press the add connection button because it wasnt there.
[02:44] <Battlestar> i'm chatting on a completely diferent PC to the one i'm trying to get this working on
[02:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gypsymauro about gpgerr
[02:44] <Battlestar> and the output it a coupe of pages long
[02:44] <sudharsh> ohhhh.....
[02:44] <onkarshinde> Munchkinguy: do 'sudo pppeoconf' from terminal
[02:44] <{{brooklyn}}> that how i do it
[02:44] <onkarshinde> Munchkinguy: sorry 'sudo pppoeconf'
[02:44] <nalioth> Battlestar: paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:44] <sudharsh> alrito....now go to the configuration
[02:44] <Friar> my hash key dont work
[02:45] <Munchkinguy> onkarshinde: that's all I have to do?
[02:45] <onkarshinde> Munchkinguy: Yes, it will ask you a couple of questions
[02:45] <Munchkinguy> Thank you.
[02:45] <Battlestar> ok going back to reconfigure...
[02:45] <onkarshinde> Munchkinguy: But I don't know how you can sustain your configurations from live CD
[02:45] <sudharsh> this time attempt to autodetect
[02:45] <lowman62> jawshoewah: yt?
[02:46] <Battlestar> it just fails and asks me to select a dirver anyway
[02:46] <jawshoewah> yes
[02:46] <gypsymauro> nalioth: uh? I suppose isn't the gpg error
[02:46] <misiek> noone can help me? please tell so now, so i dont have to wait here in vain
[02:46] <Battlestar> so i select ATI
[02:46] <lowman62> jawshoewah: did that work?
[02:46] <sudharsh> ok
[02:46] <jawshoewah> i dont know the syntaxt for killing a process
[02:46] <nalioth> gypsymauro: if you follow the instructions, you can put your cd back in and when you apt-get update it'll reverify it
[02:47] <{{brooklyn}}> onkarshinde:can how to disconnect internet connection??
[02:47] <nalioth> gypsymauro: or you can comment out the line in your sources.list and not worry about it anymore
[02:47] <misiek> brooklyn: unplug the cable?
[02:47] <sudharsh> Battlestar.....looks like i cant be of much help now
[02:47] <lowman62> jawshoewah: kill <pid number>
[02:47] <gypsymauro> nalioth: I think maybe the problem is that on my CD I've not a Release file
[02:47] <nalioth> gypsymauro: it is a locally made CD ?
[02:47] <jawshoewah> what will list pid numbers
[02:47] <{{brooklyn}}> other method??
[02:47] <gypsymauro> nalioth: yes
[02:48] <lowman62> jawshoewah: ps -al
[02:48] <nalioth> gypsymauro: ah, then yes. you'll just have to deal with the msgs
[02:48] <Battlestar> lol
[02:48] <jawshoewah> ty
[02:48] <Battlestar> oh well thanks for all ur help sudharsh
[02:48] <Battlestar> and hangin in there with me
[02:48] <lowman62> jawshoewah: yw :)
[02:48] <sudharsh> sorry mate....anyways
[02:48] <onkarshinde> {{brooklyn}}: poff ppp0 or poff dsl-provider
[02:48] <Battlestar> looks like this one aint gonna be solved... for now at least
[02:48] <{{brooklyn}}> thank
[02:48] <Battlestar> i'll have anothr hack at it tomorrow after work
[02:48] <sudharsh> speak with the apple guyz nevertheless
[02:48] <Battlestar> it's 3am here atm lol
[02:49] <sudharsh> alrito...
[02:49] <jawshoewah> ps -al gives me bacl some confusing data
[02:49] <nalioth> Battlestar: come back in about 8-10 hours and ask me then (i just got off work and need to sleep)
[02:49] <Battlestar> anyway thanks again
[02:49] <Battlestar> cya
[02:49] <sudharsh> here in chennai  its 7:30
[02:49] <sudharsh> cya
[02:49] <misiek>  what does "nalioth sets mode: -b %misiek!*@*"
[02:49] <gypsymauro> nalioth: uhm I want to ship that CD to students of a school so I hope to throw away that message, there is an easy way to build that Release file?
[02:49] <misiek> mean
[02:49] <sobersabre> where can I read ubuntu-java installation instruction ?
[02:49] <nalioth> misiek: it means you were quieted (from sending to the channel)
[02:49] <sudharsh> java for firefox?
[02:50] <lowman62> jawshoewah: look to the right hand side of the output for xmms then locate its PID #
[02:50] <sudharsh> jawshoewah...try 'top' and locate xmms
[02:50] <nalioth> gypsymauro: see the debian maintainers guide at debian.org (or visit #ubuntu-motu and ask there)
[02:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sobersabre about java
[02:50] <lowman62> jawshoewah: or you can do it the Windblows way and reboot LOL
[02:50] <gypsymauro> motu?:)
[02:50] <misiek> nalioth: why did you quit me?
[02:50] <nalioth> misiek: the /topic is the first thing you see when you join a channel
[02:50] <kemik> got a problem installing gamin and libgamin, what do i do? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6835     (reasons for intsalling: gamin has a big memoryleak which consumes 100-400mb of memory after a few hours uptime)
[02:51] <jawshoewah> no i need to learn the gnu way!
[02:51] <nalioth> misiek: the /topic provides info for folks in the channel
[02:51] <jawshoewah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6836
[02:51] <nalioth> gypsymauro: motu = masters of the universe (repository)
[02:51] <jawshoewah> xmms isnt listed
[02:51] <misiek> oright. sorry for ingnoring this message. i did use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6834 now
[02:51] <kaos> Anyone know how to add IPv4 to Wireless card??
[02:51] <Ng> kemik: install both packages with one dpkg call, then the dependencies will be satisfied
[02:51] <gypsymauro> tanx:)
[02:51] <lowman62> jawshoewah: or you can Applications>System Tools>System Monitor and at the Processes tab locate xmms and kill it from there
[02:52] <jawshoewah> winblowz
[02:52] <kaos> Please, need some help.....
[02:52] <StyXman> hi all. how can i disable NetworkManager?
[02:52] <sudharsh> kaos: yes
[02:52] <kemik> Ng:  oh.. i see :)
[02:52] <kaos> sudharsh: how do I do it?
[02:52] <jawshoewah> oh my I sure do have a lot of them running!
[02:52] <sobersabre> !javadebs ?
[02:52] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[02:53] <sobersabre> how do I see them ?
[02:53] <WarpedShadow> Is there a way of installing an application when using the lvie CD?
[02:53] <sudharsh> kaos..mayb i mssed somethin....whats ur problem? :
[02:53] <nalioth> sobersabre: you just called them, read what ubotu wrote
[02:53] <nalioth> WarpedShadow: of course, you can do anything you like
[02:53] <WarpedShadow> maybe I should have added, easily
[02:53] <nalioth> brenner: howdy
[02:53] <sobersabre> !javadebs
[02:53] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[02:54] <sobersabre> (question mark messed it... )
[02:54] <nalioth> WarpedShadow: use synaptic or apt-get, it works like a installed ubuntu
[02:54] <brenner> nalioth: hello
[02:54] <WarpedShadow> nalioth: okay.
[02:54] <lowman62> jawshoewah: that is why it is not working :P
[02:54] <jawshoewah> batabing
[02:55] <kaos> sudharsh: cant get wireless to work on my laptop, works on some ruters but not others. I think its because of IPv6.
[02:55] <jawshoewah> i had about twelve of each running no wonder
[02:55] <lowman62> jawshoewah: working now?
[02:55] <jawshoewah> yes
[02:55] <kaos> Anyone else here to help?
[02:55] <kemik> Ng:  thx
[02:55] <lowman62> coolies
[02:55] <lowman62> :)
[02:55] <jawshoewah> :)))))
[02:55] <kaos> sudharsh just quit....
[02:55] <jawshoewah> thats my triple chin smile
[02:55] <ErMenGoL> hey guys!!
[02:55] <lowman62> jawshoewah: now rock on dude..lol :P
[02:56] <jawshoewah> lol here comes my 8am metal!!!!!!!!
[02:56] <kaos> anyone......???
[02:56] <jawshoewah> see you later lowman
[02:56] <misiek> yeah i ask the same question
[02:57] <lowman62> jawshoewah: laters :)
[02:58] <lowman62> for the folks having trouble with their wireless .. here http://flacknews.blogspot.com/2005/11/use-ndiswrapper-to-setup-wireless-in.html
[02:59] <kaos> checking......
[03:00] <definity> hello
[03:00] <lowman62> hello
[03:01] <definity> i have found a nice wireless card but im not sure if it is compatible with ubuntu shall i show you the link?
[03:02] <nalioth> ubotu: tell definity about wireless
[03:02] <nalioth> definity: look to your private messages and have a look for yourself
[03:02] <lowman62> nalioth: that one must get asked at least a gazillion times a day in here LOL
[03:03] <nalioth> lowman62: we have a smart bot to help us
[03:03] <yew_> any body can tell me how to change mount point of hard disk?
[03:03] <nalioth> !botsnack
[03:03] <ubotu> :)
[03:03] <lowman62> lol
[03:03] <Ng> nothing about bloot is smart ;)
[03:04] <UncleD> On bootup I get FAILURE for synchornizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org (failed to resolve name) - how can I fix or remove this (it holds bootup for almost 2 min)
[03:04] <dodo> hello~
[03:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell UncleD about bum
[03:04] <UncleD> thx
[03:05] <CanYouHelpMePlz> !bum
[03:05] <ubotu> it has been said that bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html
[03:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell CanYouHelpMePlz about msg the bot
[03:06] <Pygi> can anybody send me scanModem.gz file? thanks
[03:06] <nalioth> Pygi: can you be a bit more specific ? or should i 'touch' one into existence for you :P
[03:07] <lowman62> LOL
[03:07] <definity> i had a look at that link but the wireless card is not there would it still work in linux?
[03:07] <IG0R> im telneting a server...how can i control its replies on a script?
[03:07] <Pygi> nalioth: I am currently working at tranfering someone from win to ubuntu :P but he needs modem :P
[03:07] <dodo> scim can`t install ! help~
[03:07] <brenner> nalioth: play nice
[03:07] <nalioth> definity: post the URL in here please
[03:07] <lowman62> definity: try here http://flacknews.blogspot.com/2005/11/use-ndiswrapper-to-setup-wireless-in.html
[03:07] <definity> http://www.demarctech.com/products/reliawave-rwu/reliawave-rwu-300mw-atheros-802.11a-b-g-cardbus.html
[03:08] <nalioth> lowman62: definity might not need ndiswrapper, there are quite a few wireless chips that work ootb
[03:08] <nalioth> definity: yes it will work
[03:08] <lowman62> 802.11 yes it will work] 
[03:08] <Pygi> thanks nalioth, I just found it :P
[03:09] <definity> would i ahve to install the drivers manualy then?
[03:09] <misiek> ja
[03:09] <CosmoDad> are there any ubuntu-specific mailing lists, especially security-related ones?
[03:09] <lowman62> definity: it should install no problem in ubuntu without the driver
[03:09] <dodo> ?
[03:10] <nalioth> definity: you probably won't have to install anything
[03:10] <definity> :) thanks guys
[03:10] <nalioth> CosmoDad: on wiki.ubuntu.com there is a link to all the mailing lists
[03:10] <lowman62> yw
[03:11] <CosmoDad> nalioth: didn't know, I'll take a look
[03:11] <gnomefreak> good morning
[03:11] <CosmoDad> nalioth: thx
[03:11] <brenner> Pygi: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/scanModem.gz
[03:11] <lowman62> gnomefreak: hey how are ya?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> lowman62, good and you?
[03:11] <lowman62> gnomefreak: i'm feelin froggy
[03:12] <BigKahuna> reccomendation for ebook (chm) reader?
[03:12] <lowman62> BigKahuna: CHM Viewer
[03:13] <nalioth> BigKahuna: kchm
[03:13] <BigKahuna> thanks.
[03:13] <misiek> So my question again: During install when i create a user and a passwrd it will ask for another one and then for another and so on. I can go back to the main menu and skip user creation but then i get errors on logon.
[03:13] <misiek> maybe now can someone help me please?
[03:13] <Pygi> breener: that package is empty :P
[03:14] <nalioth> misiek: it should only ask once. one is all you need
[03:14] <Pygi> breener: i found it, no worries
[03:14] <gnomefreak> misiek, during install you have to make 1 user and one password
[03:14] <brenner> Pygi: it was?
[03:14] <misiek> nalioth: i know, but it asks on and on
[03:14] <brenner> Pygi: weird.  isn't that the official site?
[03:14] <misiek> thats the *PROBLEM*
[03:14] <nalioth> misiek: you should have the option to continue w/o adding more users
[03:14] <Pygi> breener: it is :P
[03:14] <misiek> i use simple name and password
[03:14] <UncleD> nalioth: I installed bum, and I go to remove ntpdate from startup and it says, "Cannot remove ntpdate from rcS.d symbolic links, this is for deep level administration only"
[03:15] <lowman62> misiek; continue
[03:15] <misiek> i just press continue after typing the pass
[03:15] <lowman62> yes
[03:15] <nalioth> UncleD: may i suggest you utilize your superuser priveleges with care
[03:15] <misiek> and it goes to "enter the full user name"
[03:15] <Delgul_at_work> Question: under breezy I have a greyed-out recent documents button when the home drive is mounted under nfs... Anyone any idea?
[03:16] <karlwrk> if I'm not using any lvm disks, why would I want evms?
[03:17] <misiek> nalioth: i assume the full user name can contain spaces?
[03:17] <nalioth> misiek: yes, it can
[03:17] <misiek> so what happens?
[03:17] <misiek> how do i break the chain?
[03:17] <nalioth> misiek: hit 'esc' and select the next option
[03:18] <misiek> it will lead me to the menu right?
[03:18] <nalioth> misiek: correct
[03:18] <misiek> i did so
[03:18] <misiek> i couldnt login after install
[03:19] <misiek> could not find the user or sth
[03:19] <Ng> did you say you have spaces in the username?
[03:19] <Ng> or just the full name?
[03:19] <misiek> no  not in the username. in the full name of user. my name
[03:19] <Ng> ah ok, nm then
[03:19] <dooglus> misiek: usernames shouldn't be longer than 8 letters really.  what name are you using?
[03:19] <misiek> misiek =P
[03:20] <nalioth> dooglus: not the user name, the full name of user
[03:20] <dooglus> nalioth: the full name can be as long as you like, within reason
[03:20] <nalioth> misiek: i've just gotten off a long long shift at work, so am not much help right now
[03:20] <nalioth> dooglus: yes i was explaining to misiek. misiek is stuck at an endless adduser section of the install
[03:21] <misiek> hmm okey. maybe get some sleep and someone else can help me
[03:21] <nalioth_zZz> misiek: there are plenty of folks here
[03:21] <dooglus> nalioth: right.  i was wondering if it's because the username he specified is illegal - with spaces, or "=P"s or somesuch
[03:21] <nalioth_zZz> dooglus: you'd have to ask misiek
[03:21] <dooglus> nalioth_zZz: I did :)
[03:21] <misiek> hehe no  no my user name is misiek
[03:22] <gnomefreak> dooglus, that could be why it keeps asking him
[03:22] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:22] <nalioth_zZz> misiek: not your user name, your "full name of user"
[03:22] <misiek> the =P is for it being my nick here as well.
[03:22] <misiek> ah , my full name of user is Michal Pomorski thats my name
[03:22] <dooglus> misiek: what are you typing for your full name?  does it have any 'funny' characters in it?
[03:22] <gnomefreak> misiek, they mean the full name like mike sanford
[03:23] <caugier> hi
[03:23] <lowman62> lo
[03:23] <misiek> no no funny characters and the installer is not complaining about anything
[03:23] <misiek> just goes on
[03:23] <dooglus> misiek: is this the basic install, or did you go for 'expert mode' or something?
[03:23] <lowman62> misiek: no option to continue?
[03:23] <caugier> is there some particular place to ask questions about the ubuntu livecd? (i need to change the kernel, and i'have some problems)
[03:23] <misiek> no just basic
[03:23] <misiek> maybe i should try expert
[03:24] <lowman62> misiek: did you select to set partitions yourself?
[03:24] <misiek> yes
[03:24] <s_spiff{AWAY}> hey can some one tell me where i can pick up xmms skins?
[03:25] <lowman62> misiek: try reinstalling and let ubuntu setup partitions that is probably why
[03:25] <dooglus> misiek: you can skip user creation and create a user for yourself afterwards
[03:25] <misiek> i have windows installed and i set a 3.5G partition for root and 4 gb for home
[03:25] <misiek> as well as 300something for swap
[03:25] <gnomefreak> 300 what for swap?
[03:25] <dooglus> gnomefreak: it doesn't matter in this case, right?
[03:26] <dooglus> gnomefreak: the installer isn't wanting to swap
[03:26] <misiek> it is in the end of the disk but there seems to be no problem with sectors too far away from the beginnig of the disk
[03:26] <gnomefreak> dooglus, no but just wondering 300 gigs for swap :(
[03:26] <misiek> 300mb of course
[03:26] <gnomefreak> oh good  :( sorry ive seen people do some odd things
[03:26] <misiek> dooglus: okey how do i do it
[03:26] <lowman62> misiek: it gives you no way to just continue?
[03:26] <brenner> s_spiff{AWAY}: that's googable.  look out for winamp classic skins as well
[03:27] <misiek> tcreate user afterwards?
[03:27] <misiek> lowman: i can skip back to menu but i end up with no user
[03:27] <lowman62> misiek: try creating user after install
[03:27] <s_spiff{AWAY}> brenner, can i use winamp on linux?
[03:28] <misiek> how?
[03:28] <misiek> i cant login
[03:28] <lowman62> use recovery at grub login
[03:28] <brenner> s_spiff{AWAY}: not under some emulation i'd assume
[03:28] <misiek> okey ill try that
[03:28] <lowman62> misiek: let me know
[03:29] <misiek> i have another problem
[03:29] <misiek> x refuses to start
[03:29] <misiek> hehe
[03:29] <misiek> no screen
[03:29] <misiek> looks like bad driver
[03:29] <brenner> s_spiff{AWAY}: *not *without* some emulation
[03:29] <misiek> i have ati radeon
[03:29] <lowman62> misiek: oh man! you got you some troubles...what driver?
[03:29] <s_spiff{AWAY}> umm ok..
[03:29] <misiek> tried vesa and ati
[03:30] <misiek> i had that before when i was installing debian
[03:30] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  so is there some other better player? I didnt like rythm box..or xmms
[03:30] <lowman62> misiek: did you resolve it in debian?
[03:30] <godzzo> Hi!
[03:30] <misiek> i mean the no screen. i chose the wron driver then
[03:30] <misiek> yeah
[03:30] <brenner> ubotu: tell s_spiff{AWAY} about players
[03:31] <misiek> but now its on a different machine
[03:31] <lowman62> misiek: just use the same resolve in ubuntu
[03:31] <misiek> knopix runs on ati i think
[03:31] <jamie_> The gst-engine claims it cannot play MP3 files.
[03:31] <jamie_> You may want to choose a different engine from the Configure Dialog, or examine the installation of the multimedia-framework that the current engine uses.
[03:31] <enkrav> Hello, I messed up the sound configuration with gnome-volume-control and now my microphone won't record any more. How can I reset all the sound settings?
[03:31] <jamie_> ^ Getting this when trying to play mp3's
[03:31] <yew_> help-where can i get linux boot disk??
[03:31] <jorgp> why would I get a root@spock:/etc# [4361483.167000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set
[03:31] <phanter> hello,how can I mount an ftp server?
[03:31] <jorgp> 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0)
[03:31] <lowman62> enkrav: alsa-mixer at console
[03:32] <godzzo> I would like to use a mirroring file system (across network). Which filesystem can mirror file operation accross network? (importan the realtime, rsync mode is not good).
[03:32] <jorgp> when I shift-pageup in a console?
[03:32] <brenner> jamie_: using what app?
[03:32] <jamie_> brenner,  that error is in amarok, however rhythmbox will not work either
[03:32] <brenner> ubotu: tell jamie_ about restricted
[03:33] <brenner> jamie_: rhythmboc requires a codec.  i'm guessing amarok does too
[03:33] <s_spiff{AWAY}> brenner, which one would you say it the 'best'?
[03:33] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  as in ...ur suggestion?
[03:33] <lowman62> jamie_: I had that problem with Amarok...I selected xmms applied then it allowed me to change the configuration
[03:33] <butcherbird> jorgp: try turn on or off numlock.
[03:33] <brenner> s_spiff{AWAY}: i'm happy with bmp.  but it's almost identical to xmms, so you probably won't like it
[03:34] <jamie_> thank  you i am checking this out
[03:34] <dooglus> would someone running an up-to-date dapper please tell me what they see in /usr/X11R6/
[03:34] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  umm ok..
[03:34] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  will check it out..
[03:34] <godzzo> Known anybody a mirroring filesystem (accross network & realtime)?
[03:35] <enkrav> is there any advantage of using alsa-mixer instead of gnome-volume-control?
[03:35] <CosmoDad> godzzo: raid?
[03:35] <czr> godzzo, what about network block device and raid1?
[03:35] <s_spiff{AWAY}> bmp uses winamp skins! cool!
[03:35] <brenner> enkrav: gvc is just a frontend afaik
[03:36] <brenner> s_spiff{AWAY}: winamp *classic* skins.  so does xmms
[03:36] <CosmoDad> enkrav: I could imagine that gnome-volume-control is independent of the underlying sound architecture while alsamixer is specific to alsa
[03:36] <phreak97> how do i install a .deb package?
[03:36] <jorgp> butcherbird: tried that, same thing
[03:36] <_jason> !deb
[03:36] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:36] <phreak97> cool thanks
[03:37] <butcherbird> jorgp: us keyboard? maybe keymapping is messed up
[03:37] <jorgp> butcherbird: yes
[03:37] <caugier> is there some particular place to ask questions about the ubuntu livecd? (i need to change the kernel, and i'have some problems)
[03:38] <mojo_> can some1 send me the /usr/lib/usplash/usplash-artwork.so ? I messed around with my system and i lost that file
[03:38] <yeanhoo> !deb
[03:38] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:38] <yeanhoo> !deb --purge
[03:38] <ubotu> yeanhoo: I haven't a clue
[03:38] <yeanhoo> ok
[03:38] <yeanhoo> :-)
[03:39] <jorgp> butcherbird: it just started a few mins ago, now up and down arrows not working
[03:39] <jorgp> using breezy
[03:39] <mojo_> some1 pls
[03:39] <mojo_> pls pls
[03:39] <mojo_> some1 send me the file pls
[03:39] <yatesy> shut up
[03:39] <mojo_> T_T
[03:39] <marius_> uhm, what does it mean that a file is prompted?
[03:39] <JoeBlow> kameron, do u think quake 2 wouldnt load for me because of my driver?
[03:40] <kameron> JoeBlow, very likely
[03:40] <butcherbird> jorgp: that just in gnome or if you alt-ctrl-f2 to console too?
[03:40] <kameron> JoeBlow, but there's also a million other reasons perhaps it wouldn't launch. i'm very new to wine though. just started with it last night.
[03:40] <JoeBlow> kameron, the wierd thing was, after i installed it,i clicked run, and it ran fine, and then i closed it and clicked the icon it made, and it just opened the quake 2 window and froze and i couldnt even close it
[03:40] <godzzo> CosmoDad, raid accross to server?
[03:40] <kameron> JoeBlow, ah, that's nuts man. try #winehq
[03:40] <marius_> uhm, what does it mean that a file is prompted?
[03:40] <JoeBlow> kameron, oh that was native install
[03:40] <JoeBlow> kameron, no wine at all
[03:41] <kameron> JoeBlow, cedega?
[03:41] <JoeBlow> kameron, runs faster if u can do it without
[03:41] <CosmoDad> godzzo: you'd need some sort of networking above the filesystem level, indeed
[03:41] <kameron> oh, native, gotcha JoeBlow
[03:41] <CosmoDad> godzzo: like nfs
[03:41] <kameron> JoeBlow, but most game makers don't make native installs
[03:41] <JoeBlow> kameron, yep
[03:41] <brenner> marius_: what's the exact wording?
[03:41] <JoeBlow> kameron, but if u can use it, its pretty cool
[03:41] <Ng> CosmoDad: that's pretty ghetto, there are specialist distributed filesystems available ;)
[03:42] <godzzo> czr, what is network block device?
[03:42] <marius_> It just say; if file2 exist, the user is prompted before it is overwritten
[03:42] <czr> godzzo, what is google :-)
[03:42] <godzzo> czr, okok :)
[03:43] <brenner> marius_:  prompted: asked for action
[03:43] <CosmoDad> Ng: indeed, my knowledge about distributed filesystems is pretty ghetto, I was only guessing :)
[03:43] <czr> godzzo, also look for enhanced network block device
[03:43] <Ng> godzzo: you are looking for a distributed filesystem. while you are at google, ask it about ones available for linux
[03:43] <czr> mirrored filesystem is not the same as a distributed filesystem normally
[03:43] <Ng> CosmoDad: hehe, to be fair the few that do exist aren't that great. It's an enormously tricky problem to solve
[03:43] <CosmoDad> godzzo: dump what I said, listen to the others!
[03:43] <marius_> So, ite will ask "do you want to overwritte" before the computer overwritte?
[03:43] <czr> Ng, GFS and lustre are quite ok
[03:44] <czr> AFS was ok at one time, but it's pita to use nowadays
[03:44] <Ng> czr: for varying values of "quite" that go from "barely" to "not at all" ;)
[03:44] <brenner> marius_: exactly
[03:44] <stark-johan> to install a new font I just have to dump it in /usr/share/fonts/ right?
[03:44] <czr> ng, sure. but as you said, it is a difficult problem to solve :-)
[03:44] <Ng> hehe
[03:44] <marius_> Okey, thanks for your help :)
[03:44] <JoeBlow> whats the command to run rm, is it sh?
[03:44] <kameron> JoeBlow, to run the rm command? what?
[03:44] <mwe> stark-johan: what kind of font?
[03:44] <CosmoDad> JoeBlow: the command to run rm is -- rm :)
[03:45] <JoeBlow> kameron, oops, i mean ,run
[03:45] <JoeBlow> kameron, oops, i mean .run
[03:45] <phreak97> what's --prefix /usr ?
[03:45] <mwe> stark-johan: ttf fonts should go to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/
[03:45] <czr> -- rm?
[03:45] <butcherbird> JoeBlow: sh filename.sh?
[03:45] <godzzo> thanks
[03:45] <Ng> JoeBlow: yes, sh ./foo.run
[03:45] <stark-johan> mwe > a ttf. ok. thanks
[03:45] <phreak97> and how do i uninstall an installed .deb package?
[03:45] <CosmoDad> phreak97: dpkg -r
[03:45] <jamie> When I open synaptic I get this (along with all the other repositories listed) However I am getting it on both of my computers, and it was fine yesterday. I am unable to apt-get anything either
[03:46] <mwe> phreak97: also learn to use the "man" command please
[03:46] <bigGrim> how can I enable the sshd?
[03:46] <CosmoDad> phreak97: without the version and extension on the package name
[03:46] <jamie> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:46] <Ng> bigGrim: install the "ssh" package
[03:46] <JoeBlow> kameron, ok reinstalling quake 2
[03:46] <gnomefreak> jamie, put a # infront of the cdrom repo
[03:46] <JoeBlow> kameron, did u look for a half life 2 native install?
[03:46] <kameron> JoeBlow, no, i don't think it exists
[03:46] <jamie> gnomefreak,  ok, but where
[03:47] <JoeBlow> kameron, yea i doubt it, im lucky, i play mostly id games, and u always get them with id games
[03:47] <JoeBlow> kameron, gotta get me another quake 3 key
[03:47] <prem> hi all
[03:47] <kameron> JoeBlow, i don't really play games other than CS:S.. and a little starcraft
[03:47] <JoeBlow> kameron, ill play it with u if u can figure t out
[03:47] <gnomefreak> jamie, in term type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and when open paste your sources list to pastebin and i will look at it
[03:47] <dooglus> would someone running an up-to-date dapper please tell me what they see in /usr/X11R6/
[03:48] <kameron> JoeBlow, yeah, i'll keep you updated
[03:48] <JoeBlow> kameron, where do u live?
[03:48] <prem> has anybody tried helpExplorer ( a .chm and .hlp viewer for linux) on ubuntu-dapper-amd64 ( i know about kchmviewer and xchm/gnochm but still ...)
[03:48] <gib8> hi my xmms crashed and now blocking the soundcard device, knows someone how i can get this blocking away?
[03:48] <kill9> Hi guys, I know this isnt specifically ubuntu related, but could anyone help  me with DNS?
[03:48] <nalioth> JoeBlow: join us in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:48] <jamie> gnomefreak, ok 1 sec
[03:48] <_jason> gib8, try: killall xmms
[03:49] <brenner> gib8: try 'killall esd'
[03:49] <azatoth> i would like to create an ext3 filesystem on a existing partition. when i run "mkfs.ext3 /dev/drbd0" i get the error: "/dev/drbd0 is apparently in use by the system". anyone knows what is wrong?
[03:49] <gib8> _jason, i did killall xmms, no xmms is runing
[03:49] <gib8> brenner, i try
[03:49] <nalioth> azatoth: run it from a liveCD
[03:49] <gib8> brenner, it was the esd
[03:49] <gib8> brenner, thx :)
[03:49] <brenner> np
[03:49] <prem> azatoth, type df(or mount) and see if /dev/drbd0 is mounted
[03:49] <jamie> gnomefreak, pastebin?
[03:50] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[03:50] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:50] <azatoth> prem: no, it isn't mounted.
[03:50] <azatoth> nalioth: isn't there an easier way?
[03:51] <nalioth> azatoth: obviously it is mounted, or you wouldnt get that msg
[03:51] <jamie> gnomefreak,  sent to pastebin
[03:51] <gnomefreak> jamie, can i have the link please
[03:51] <gnomefreak> nm
[03:51] <gnomefreak> i have it
[03:51] <aggressor> HEY , WHERE I CAN CHANGE DESKTOP THEMES
[03:51] <azatoth> nalioth: i guess thats because of drdb. isn't there a way to force it? i have already tried "-F".
[03:51] <jamie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6839
[03:52] <s_spiff{AWAY}> www.gnome-look.org
[03:52] <gnomefreak> jamie, you see the first repo?
[03:52] <phreak97> aggressor, i was wondering that myself
[03:52] <Ng> aggressor: no need to shout ;)   System->Preferences->Themes
[03:52] <jamie> need # i know
[03:52] <jamie> lol tks, is that all?
[03:52] <aggressor> oo tyu
[03:52] <gnomefreak> just put the # infront of the word deb in that one
[03:52] <s_spiff{AWAY}> aggressor, u can find them at www.gnome-look.org
[03:52] <nalioth> azatoth: if you've tried force and it didnt work. you will either need to try other methods
[03:52] <aggressor> ty
[03:52] <gnomefreak> yes jamie that is it
[03:53] <s_spiff{AWAY}> np
[03:53] <jamie> gnomefreak,  thank you.
[03:53] <gnomefreak> jamie save close run sudo apt-get update
[03:53] <jamie> gnome ok
[03:53] <azatoth> nalioth: okay, thank you very much. i will try to stop drbd and then try it again. otherwise i will use a live cd.
[03:53] <gnomefreak> brb i wanna try something
[03:54] <marius_> How do I logg into root with Ubuntu?
[03:54] <AIV> what is the best newsreader for ubuntu?
[03:54] <Ng> AIV: pan is pretty goo
[03:54] <Ng> d
[03:54] <prem> AIV, pan
[03:54] <nalioth> marius_: best that you do not. use 'sudo'
[03:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell marius_ about root
[03:54] <bigGrim> how do i force a... apt-get install ssh 2 source from inernet
[03:55] <nalioth> bigGrim: in a console, type "sudo apt-get source ssh"
[03:55] <gnomefreak> jamie, can i ask where you got that last repo from?
[03:56] <marius_> Nalioth: is uboto a kind of bot? since he sounds retarded :P
[03:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell marius_ about yourself
[03:56] <AIV> ok, I installed pan
[03:56] <AIV> but I can only invoke it from the terminal
[03:56] <nalioth> AIV: it should be in your internet menu
[03:57] <dooglus> would someone running an up-to-date dapper please tell me what they see in /usr/X11R6/
[03:57] <gnomefreak> sorry dooglus i dumped dapper for a lil while :(
[03:58] <Seveas> dooglus, hopefully VERY little :)
[03:58] <CanYouHelpMePlz> can somone help me with a question? i see alot of people have their running windows show up in a kind of bar, like the one in this picture i was wondering how i would do that ? http://mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/20xfce4.jpg
[03:59] <dooglus> Seveas: why do you say that?
[03:59] <Seveas> dooglus, /usr/X11R6 is deprecated
[03:59] <butcherbird> CanYouHelpMePlz: you using gnome or xfce?
[03:59] <CanYouHelpMePlz> butcherbird: gnome
[03:59] <hmrocha> hello
[03:59] <gnomefreak> CanYouHelpMePlz, that is xfce desktop
[03:59] <hmrocha> is it safe to upgrade to dapper now?
[03:59] <dooglus> Seveas: what's the correct ProjectRoot for xorg then?
[04:00] <gnomefreak> hmrocha, no
[04:00] <CanYouHelpMePlz> gnomefreak: is their a way to have the bottom be the same? like with icons instead of full bars for running programs
[04:00] <gnomefreak> safe =april 20
[04:00] <AIV> nalioth, doesn't show up in there
[04:00] <TTilus> CanYouHelpMePlz: do you mean the button bar at to or the workspace bar at "doc" at the bottom
[04:00] <Seveas> dooglus, you should not use the imake build system
[04:00] <hmrocha> gnomefreak, ok, thanks
[04:00] <AIV> nalioth, could it be because I used apt-get to get it?
[04:00] <gnomefreak> CanYouHelpMePlz, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:00] <Seveas> xorg 7 uses an autotoolized build system
[04:00] <thegladiator> !xubuntu
[04:00] <ubotu> I guess xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[04:00] <butcherbird> CanYouHelpMePlz: i much prefer xfce lately
[04:00] <CanYouHelpMePlz> gnomefreak: will i lose everything i have done so far?
[04:00] <nalioth> AIV: in a console, type
[04:00] <gnomefreak> CanYouHelpMePlz, no
[04:00] <dooglus> Seveas: imake reckons that the X stuff is in /usr/X11R6, and it isn't
[04:01] <nalioth> AIV: type "killall gnome-panel"
[04:01] <thegladiator> xfce's nxt release is looking good
[04:01] <thegladiator> how many of you guys except gnomefreak :) run kde ?
[04:01] <gnomefreak> me
[04:01] <thegladiator> just for stats purpose , on ubuntu i.e
[04:01] <s_spiff{AWAY}> i do
[04:01] <butcherbird> CanYouHelpMePlz: after install alt-ctrl-backspace and click sessions at login screen change to xfce and login
[04:01] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, i have a bunch of desktops
[04:01] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  i have both gnome and kde
[04:01] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  bunch? gnomefreak ?
[04:01] <thegladiator> ah and which do you prefer lately ?
[04:01] <AIV> nalioth, that did it
[04:01] <gnomefreak> bunch
[04:02] <s_spiff{AWAY}> i think GNOME's better..
[04:02] <TauReX> question: I have a server install. What do I need to apt-get in order to display GUI apps on my desktop. I installed VMWare player, but it's GUI-only :(
[04:02] <thegladiator> i have almost stlled for kde atm
[04:02] <gnomefreak> gnome kde xfce enlightenment and blackbox
[04:02] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  there are other desktops other than KDE and GNOME?
[04:02] <thegladiator> ah
[04:02] <AIV> nalioth, so killall gnome-panel rebuild the menus or something like that?
[04:02] <s_spiff{AWAY}> wow!
[04:02] <CanYouHelpMePlz> i don't want to start a war... but xfce is better then gnome or..?
[04:02] <thegladiator> so we have many ubuntu user running kde out here
[04:02] <s_spiff{AWAY}> which one's the best gnomefreak ?
[04:02] <thegladiator> no flames please
[04:02] <gnomefreak> s_spiff{AWAY}, there are like 15-20 lol
[04:02] <Ng> you can't ask which desktop is the best
[04:02] <Seveas> dooglus, that's why you should not use the imake build system :)
[04:02] <Ng> it's like asking which fruit is the best
[04:02] <Ng> the answer is: whichever you like most :)
[04:02] <CanYouHelpMePlz> thats easy.
[04:03] <CanYouHelpMePlz> oranges.
[04:03] <dooglus> Seveas: but what if the program I'm trying to install uses it?
[04:03] <gib8> Ng, Bananas ;)
[04:03] <TTilus> CanYouHelpMePlz: NO, APPLES!
[04:03] <s_spiff{AWAY}> :P sorry noob to linux..
[04:03] <thegladiator> XFCE is good on memory , GNOME /KDE good on applications
[04:03] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  so didnt know
[04:03] <prem> anybody want to try HelpExplorer www.kamasoftware.com
[04:03] <CanYouHelpMePlz> TTilus: NO GRAPES.
[04:03] <Ng> no don't start a fruit war, accept the greater truth in my statements ;p
[04:03] <Seveas> dooglus, then the program is broken and should be fixed :)
[04:03] <thegladiator> apple is the best fruit accoring to steve jobs :)
[04:03] <Seveas> dooglus, what is it?
[04:03] <dooglus> Seveas: GNU Emacs
[04:03] <gnomefreak> i like xfce and gnome the most but i like some of kdes apps blackbox iu try not to use very often
[04:04] <Seveas> dooglus, apt-get install emacs21
[04:04] <dooglus> Seveas: it's too old
[04:04] <CanYouHelpMePlz> i can't stand kde.
[04:04] <dooglus> Seveas: I'm looking for the current CVS version
[04:04] <Seveas> dooglus, apt-get source emacs21
[04:04] <Seveas> and use the debian/ dir inside it on the new tarball
[04:04] <dooglus> Seveas: that's the same age as the binary.
[04:04] <Seveas> dooglus, I know, but the debian/ dir should be usable :)
[04:05] <Seveas> !info emacs21 dapper
[04:05] <ubotu> emacs21: (The GNU Emacs editor), section editors, is optional. Version: 21.4a-3 (dapper), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 5900 kB
[04:05] <Seveas> !info emacs21
[04:05] <shirish> hi guys
[04:05] <ubotu> emacs21: (The GNU Emacs editor), section editors, is optional. Version: 21.4a-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 5908 kB
[04:05] <Seveas> !info emacs22 dapper
[04:05] <s_spiff> hi shrisih
[04:05] <dooglus> Seveas: why do the repositories still have imake in them when it doesn't work?
[04:05] <s_spiff>  finally good to see a few indian people around here.
[04:05] <shirish> thanx
[04:05] <s_spiff> shirish* [ sorry, mistype ] 
[04:05] <thegladiator> whose indian s_pif ?
[04:05] <Seveas> dooglus, bugwarts combatability
[04:05] <s_spiff>  i am
[04:05] <thegladiator> ah bloddy indians :)
[04:05] <dooglus> Seveas: what does that mean?
[04:06] <thegladiator> i myself am one :)
[04:06] <s_spiff> haha...
[04:06] <s_spiff>  i didn't know..
[04:06] <shirish> o.k. cool
[04:06] <C-O-L-T> do you know a world atlas for linux? it is necessary for my studies
[04:06] <thegladiator> he he:)
[04:06] <Ubuntu> hi
[04:06] <Ubuntu> from where can I download language support?
[04:06] <Seveas> dooglus, backwarts compatibility that should (and will) be removed
[04:06] <thegladiator> hi ubuntu . you are here ?!
[04:06] <s_spiff>  ubuntu... try changing u nick..
[04:06] <mwe> C-O-L-T: is there any?
[04:06] <Ubuntu> I mean Arabic language
[04:06] <Seveas> Ubuntu, system -> admin -> language selector
 ok
[04:06] <TTilus> Ubuntu: download?  (you did not select it during installation?)
[04:06] <thegladiator> C-O-L-T, what heppened with the otehr program ?
[04:06] <shirish> I posted a query about 2 days back http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114008 but didn't get any answers. Can anybody help here.
[04:07] <CanYouHelpMePlz> heh i don't like xfce, i hought i would.
[04:07] <thegladiator> and google earth is not enuf ?
[04:07] <Seveas> TTilus, the installer + arabic == no-go
[04:07] <TTilus> Mankdim: just go and switch like Seveas told
[04:07] <TTilus> Seveas: ah, not supported yet
[04:07] <shirish> Trying to make a custom repositery
[04:07] <TTilus> Seveas: i thought it was...
[04:07] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: I can not install it
[04:07] <ydramacologic> hello ubuntu gamers
[04:07] <karlwrk> google is never enough
[04:07] <thegladiator> :(not even google earth ?
[04:07] <karlwrk> it's not even remotely standards compliant
[04:08] <karlwrk> and try adding your own imagery
[04:08] <shirish> that's an interesting statement karlwrk, what standards are u talking about?
[04:08] <thegladiator> shirish, it didnt do auton install ?
[04:08] <Mankdim> when I chose arabic fron list that's make 80% from list arabic
[04:08] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: how the hell can I run google earth on linux
[04:08] <Mankdim> but I want to use Arabic font
[04:08] <thegladiator> thats weird , did it get halted in between ?
[04:08] <Seveas> C-O-L-T, vmware + windows
[04:09] <s_spiff> hehe..nice one C-O-L-T
[04:09] <mwe> shirish: I don't understand what you're trying to achieve
[04:09] <thegladiator> mwe, seemingly install xubuntu ?
[04:09] <s_spiff> vmware is not free right?
[04:09] <Ng> correct
[04:09] <thegladiator> mwe, why do you need -d ?
[04:09] <s_spiff>  as in i need to pay something for  a registered non-troal version right?
[04:09] <gnomefreak> google-earth is not made for linux atleast not yet
[04:09] <butcherbird> s_spiff: vmplayer is not free but its free
[04:09] <Ng> I doubt google earth would even run very well in vmware
[04:09] <Ng> it's very 3d intensive
[04:09] <s_spiff> huh?
[04:10] <s_spiff> vmware? vmplayer?
[04:10] <s_spiff> same?
[04:10] <gnomefreak> its a damn ram hog too
[04:10] <thegladiator> no spiff
[04:10] <shirish> hi gladiator, what I'm trying to do is use the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptMoveHowto which explains how to make a CD  which can be used to install stuff later on. Something like Mandriva CD2. xubuntu-desktop is an example which they 've used.
[04:10] <gnomefreak> no
[04:10] <s_spiff> ! vmware
[04:10] <mwe> shirish: you've been doing apt-get -d xubuntu desktop for 3 days?
[04:10] <Ng> it has been suggested that google are porting earth to linux
[04:10] <thegladiator> shirish, ah got you
[04:10] <Ng> but who knows
[04:10] <karlwrk> shirish: all of the OGC standards, that the rest of the geo community uses
[04:10] <Ng> they tend not to make much noise about these things until they are done
[04:10] <karlwrk> even the terraserver is ogc compliant
[04:10] <thegladiator> shirish, did you see the deb files ?
[04:10] <s_spiff> shirish...
[04:11] <s_spiff>  ur post.. what is it exactly about?
[04:11] <Ng> there is a similar tool from NASA though, called Worldwind that does have a basic linux clone
[04:11] <Mankdim> I use live cd, but when I want to download arabic language support I can't, because my modem is not work with ubuntu !
[04:11] <gnomefreak> ng i hope it makes better use of resorces than :(
[04:11] <s_spiff> on the forums?
[04:11] <Ng> gnomefreak: yeah
[04:11] <northie> I'd like a hotkey for switching keyboard layouts. Any thoughts?
[04:11] <mwe> shirish: you're completely unclear about what you want. probably that's why you don't get any respons
[04:11] <thegladiator> shirish, did you get the deb files atleast ?
[04:11] <s_spiff> he must have...
[04:11] <shirish> yup can see the deb files at /var/apt/archives
[04:11] <s_spiff>  cuz he spent like 3 hours downloading them..and has already seen the .deb files..as his post says
[04:11] <C-O-L-T> Ng: what is that I need for my ubuntu, for my studies pls
[04:11] <s_spiff> yeah..
[04:11] <CanYouHelpMePlz> when i want to go back to the way my pc was using gnome, i just select GNOME using session right?
[04:12] <thegladiator> shirish, if you have the deb files , burn it into cd . you can use that for future install using !deb
[04:12] <thegladiator> !deb
[04:12] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[04:12] <shirish> not 3 hrs. almost 9 hrs. 500 MB download
[04:12] <gnomefreak> CanYouHelpMePlz, yes that will bring you into gnome
[04:12] <s_spiff> whats !deb?
[04:12] <s_spiff> gladiator...
 I use live cd, but when I want to download arabic language support I can't, because my modem is not work with ubuntu !
[04:12] <s_spiff>  i just downloaded the update and stuff....
[04:12] <thegladiator> deb is something equivalent to rpm in linux
[04:12] <TTilus> CanYouHelpMePlz: you can select your session from login window, yes
[04:12] <s_spiff>  anyways i can burn them ona  cd? so that when i make a new install of ubuntu..
[04:12] <thegladiator> deb is what apt-get deals with
[04:12] <s_spiff>  i don't have to downloadf all the stuf f all over agin?
[04:12] <TTilus> CanYouHelpMePlz: and gnome will be available there
[04:13] <CanYouHelpMePlz> TTilus: ok, i didn't like XFCE at all
[04:13] <thegladiator> deb is like a package meant for debian systems
[04:13] <s_spiff> Mankdim, when u installed..what did u use as language?
[04:13] <thegladiator> I am not sure when you run apt-get etc where the db files are stoerd though
[04:13] <C-O-L-T> Ng:??????????????
[04:13] <gnomefreak> CanYouHelpMePlz, what was wrong with it?
 arabic
[04:13] <s_spiff> then?
[04:13] <TTilus> CanYouHelpMePlz: the defaults or did you try to config?
[04:13] <CanYouHelpMePlz> gnomefreak: it's just not when i'm use to, and i didn't like the colors etc.
 as 80% onlt fron lists
[04:13] <CanYouHelpMePlz> TTilus: heh, i just prefer my panels on gnoem
 as 80% only fron lists
[04:14] <TTilus> CanYouHelpMePlz: colors are easy to fix  ;)
 but when I want to use arabic font I can't
[04:14] <shirish> whenever u run apt-get they get stored in /var/apt/archives
[04:14] <gnomefreak> CanYouHelpMePlz, xfce is customizable :)) thats what makes linux great
[04:14] <s_spiff>  thegladiator can i burn all the stuff i downloaded from the synaptget... on to a cd? so that when i make a fresh install of ubuntu..i wont hav to download all the crap again?
[04:14] <CanYouHelpMePlz> gnomefreak: i'm sure
[04:14] <TTilus> CanYouHelpMePlz: then you are propably best off with gnome
[04:14] <CanYouHelpMePlz> TTilus: yea i'm sure
[04:14] <s_spiff> umm..wierd..
[04:14] <s_spiff> Mankdim, why don't u post on the forums?
[04:14] <thegladiator> yes it shoud be possible s_spiff
[04:15] <shirish> I'm trying to follow the steps given in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptMoveHowto
 ok I will do
[04:15] <s_spiff> ummmm...where is the stuff saved?
[04:15] <s_spiff> thegladiator,  as in where are the packages saved?
[04:15] <thegladiator> ask shirish , he seems to have done it all
[04:15] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: Ng: told something about Nasa's world wind running on linux. PLs if you know something help me
[04:15] <AIV> during the initial setup of ubuntu, I chose what screen resolutions I would use, and I chose too low, is it too late to change this?
[04:15] <shirish> nope stuck middle way
[04:15] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: I need something like google earth
[04:15] <s_spiff> shirish, did u burn the stuff on to a cd?
[04:15] <thegladiator> s_spiff, i am a big expert
[04:15] <s_spiff>  achha.. so u coudn't?
[04:16] <s_spiff> huh?
[04:16] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, i havent heard of it but goole can only help you
[04:16] <thegladiator> s_spiff, unless yoru hdd crashes or something , its not needed to burn deb's
[04:16] <gnomefreak> google even
[04:16] <shirish> not yet, some little stuff to be understood before going ahead.
[04:16] <thegladiator> s_spiff, the next version ie dapper will have newer stuff
[04:16] <shirish> the debs are at /var/cache/apt/archives
[04:16] <butcherbird> ubotu tell AIV about resolution
[04:16] <s_spiff> arre thegladiator , i make mistakes..since me noob..
[04:16] <shirish> dapper is 3 months away
[04:16] <brenner> s_spiff: that's why you should make a seperate partition for /home
[04:17] <s_spiff> and when i don't know how to correct it
[04:17] <s_spiff>  i just make a new fresh install
[04:17] <thegladiator> s_spiff, and google doesnt crash like windows does , so there is no real need to burn those deb's mayb you can make 3rd party debs and burn
[04:17] <s_spiff> i have a whole 80 gb hdd..
[04:17] <thegladiator> sorry linux* not google :)
[04:17] <s_spiff>  hehe
[04:17] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: I can not tell you that how many times I have tried to search for it. This is one of the most important programs. Can somebody make a clone or something of google earth
[04:17] <C-O-L-T> or Nasa's world wind
[04:17] <thegladiator> s_spiff, how many mb's have you downloaded so far ?
[04:17] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, worldwind is very very similar to celeste
[04:17] <C-O-L-T> or Encarta's Interactive World Atlas
[04:18] <shirish> then use ubuntu live cd & use parted to do any partitioning stuff. Read the man's first
[04:18] <s_spiff>  something like 640 mb for KDE , another 200+ gb for other various updates and setups
[04:18] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: I need country maps not space simulating
[04:18] <gnomefreak> http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial_s&hl=en&q=worldwind+for+linux&btnG=Google+Search
[04:18] <s_spiff>  200+mb
[04:18] <shirish> C-O-L-T first do an apt-get update
[04:18] <s_spiff>  not gb!
[04:18] <AIV> ubotu, yes please, tell me about resolution
[04:18] <ubotu> Wish i knew, AIV
[04:18] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, than worldwind may not be any help to you but look at it
[04:18] <butcherbird> !resolution
[04:18] <ubotu> I guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:18] <s_spiff> ubotu, tell AIV about resolution
[04:18] <shirish>  then do a apt-cache search & 'keyword'
[04:18] <thegladiator> s_spiff, ok :p... i dont know about deb archiving actually
[04:18] <thegladiator> yes
[04:19] <phreak97> someone explain what i type when it says: then use the usual commands:
[04:19] <phreak97>  ./configure --prefix /usr
[04:19] <s_spiff> AIV check your pm's
[04:19] <s_spiff>  ok..will check it out.
[04:19] <mwe> phreak97: that wont work
[04:20] <shirish> phreak97 it's a kind of flag/condition that u're giving when u're compiling things from source
[04:20] <mwe> phreak97: ./configure --prefix=/usr would though
[04:20] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: I like celestia it is good, but I need a program like google earth or Encarta World Atlas. I have Encarta Worrld Atlas 2000 but I can not run it with wine
[04:20] <thegladiator> C-O-L-T, ask in #linux !
[04:20] <mwe> C-O-L-T: I don't think there is such a thing for linux
[04:21] <thegladiator> C-O-L-T, or #gentoo if you cant find help here
[04:21] <CanYouHelpMePlz> eww gentoo
[04:21] <thegladiator> and yes tell them you are on gentoo :)
[04:21] <shirish> C-O-L-T perhaps then u could support celestia to become better like whatever u like, file bugs & enjoy
[04:21] <thegladiator> lol@shirish
[04:21] <shirish> gladiator, who's the big boss around
[04:21] <gnomefreak> wait a min guys let me read this
[04:22] <douglas> How do I switch the default automake version?
[04:22] <lee_> hey boys (n gals) how do i...get firestarter to load at startup with gnome...without clicking the save settings tab at logout?
[04:22] <thegladiator> shirish, there are many . just ask once in a while . sure you will get help
[04:22] <theine> douglas, sudo update-alternatives --config automake
[04:22] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, read this http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2005092802026OSDVNT
[04:22] <s_spiff> i think there is a option for that
[04:22] <Whistler> hello
[04:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hey Whistler
[04:23] <goki-> lee_, AFAIK firestarter will startup with the network device, do you mean the firestarter GUI specifically?
[04:23] <soundray> C-O-L-T, have you tried World Wind in wine?
[04:23] <Whistler> my friend wants to install ubuntu, but his pc doesnt support boot from cd-rom
[04:23] <gnomefreak> ww does both stars and ground
[04:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Whistler about smartboot
[04:23] <goki-> Whistler, is it ancient?
[04:23] <thegladiator> Whistler, thats nto really possible
[04:23] <s_spiff> Whistler, did u check out the bio's setup?
[04:23] <s_spiff>  check if his 1st boot device is CDROM
[04:23] <Whistler> ye thats ancient
[04:23] <thegladiator> Whistler, most of the post 95 BIOS supports CD ROM booting
[04:23] <shirish> anybody knows how to make custom repositery?
[04:23] <s_spiff> then.. is his cd rom working?
[04:23] <lee_> Goki-, well i installed it but the icon that appears in the top right hand corner is no longer there after a reboot
[04:24] <thegladiator> even Windows cannot be istaled without booting from CD!
[04:24] <s_spiff>  or is his cd right?
[04:24] <Ng> thegladiator: sure it can, you can make boot floppies from a windows cd
[04:24] <s_spiff> hehe
[04:24] <soundray> !smartboot
[04:24] <ubotu> smartboot is, like, totally, If you can't boot from your CD-ROM Drive, go here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[04:24] <thegladiator> Ng,yes in my opinion thats only theoreticalstuff ...i mean windows was designed to be insta;led from cd
[04:25] <Whistler> ok ill tell him to chech again
[04:25] <goki-> lee_, firestarter itself should still be running, its just that the GUI for it isn't.
[04:25] <thegladiator> Whistler, check the BIOS , change boot options
[04:25] <butcherbird> Whistler: take a look at smartboot as well
[04:25] <Ng> thegladiator: well it's not just theoretical because you can actually do it, so it's real, but i know what you mean
[04:25] <goki-> lee_, I'm afraid I don't know how to get the GUI to start with gnome, but it should be the same as for any other app you want to run on gnome startup
[04:25] <thegladiator> Ng, yep
[04:25] <Whistler> k
[04:25] <shirish> gladiator, its not theorotical I know of many thin clients which run of smart-boot kind of functionality, network-aware
[04:26] <soundray> !tell Whistler about smartboot
[04:26] <mwe> gnomefreak: the project you referred to seems to be limited to ms windows like goggle earth :|
[04:26] <thegladiator> i see
[04:26] <lee_> ok goki thanks...another question...i noticed on ubuntu (and debian) there is no rc.local file so i cant add commands/scripts to be run at boot up...is there another file i can add to that will do this for me?
[04:26] <soundray> lee_, /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[04:26] <s_spiff> yo what to use to burn cd/DVD?
[04:27] <goki-> lee_, If you select the Sessions tool from 'System --> Preferences --> Sessions', you can enable any program to start automatically when you login to your account.
[04:27] <butcherbird> s_spiff: k3b is probably the best app
[04:27] <thegladiator> s_spiff, k3b wud be perfect
[04:27] <jono> hi all
[04:27] <goki-> lee_, just found that ^
[04:27] <s_spiff> ok..
[04:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> he4y jono
[04:27] <jono> what is the default cd playing app in dapper?
[04:27] <shirish> lee_there is something called BUM boot-up manager that u can download & install & use the same GUI-based.
[04:27] <s_spiff> boss..but thats for KDE na?
[04:27] <lee_> thanks goki! and soundray
[04:27] <goki-> lee_, yes there is, I can't remember where it is :)
[04:27] <Slatibart> Q: ubuntu 5.04 had these nice unoffical addon cd with all these nice missing programms . where can i find an image for 5.10
[04:27] <thegladiator> s_spiff, no it works in gnome also
[04:27] <butcherbird> s_spiff: yes but if you apt-get it it will install necessary stuff. about 50 mb
[04:27] <goki-> lee_, ah cool someoen else knew :)
[04:27] <thegladiator> s_spiff, i was using k3b in my gnome also
[04:28] <s_spiff> crap!!! 50 mb..i hate downloading!
[04:28] <jono> hey PuMpErNiCkLe
[04:28] <s_spiff> achha chal...installing it right now
[04:28] <s_spiff>  thank..
[04:28] <thegladiator> s_spiff, just see in syanptic how much it wud need....first
[04:28] <s_spiff>  now have to go back to studies
[04:28] <s_spiff>  about 10.38 mb being downloaded
[04:28] <thegladiator> chal bye
[04:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jono: Same as in Breezy, I think.
[04:28] <s_spiff> the gui..and the lin
[04:29] <gib8> i get a new apt-source and now apt-get update means there is no publickey available? does i need the key to get it worked?
[04:29] <s_spiff>  thegladiator , feels good when someone says 'chal' bye in these channels
[04:29] <s_spiff>  cya ppl
[04:29] <thegladiator> eh he :)
[04:29] <thegladiator> cya
[04:29] <shirish> gladiator, spiff is also indian?
[04:29] <bart_> does anybody knows where to get DC++ linux version?
[04:29] <lee_> thnks guys
[04:29] <thegladiator> shirish, yep
[04:30] <nalioth> bart_: in the repos is a console and gui dc client
[04:30] <nalioth> !info dcgui
[04:31] <ubotu> dcgui: (Direct Connect Graphical client (GTK+) (peer-based file-sharing)), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.80-1.1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 445 kB, Installed size: 1352 kB
[04:31] <nalioth> bart_: enable the universe repos and grab it with apt-get or synaptic
[04:31] <shirish> I'm sure out of 623 people present here there is somebody who can answer my query, the question is who?
[04:31] <shirish> looking to make a custom cd repositery, cherry-picked packages.
[04:32] <bhearsum> ever since i upgraded to dapper i've had a couple paticular things not work. first of all, gaim crashes when i login to an msn account. secondly, xfce4-panel crashes whenever it starts, gives me a glibc error
[04:32] <TTilus> shirish: could be that she isnt listening right now  :)
[04:32] <nalioth> shirish: what question is that?
[04:32] <shirish> who is she?
[04:32] <nalioth> bhearsum: dapper is a development version, it's not meant for use.
[04:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bhearsum: Report the bugs to the ubuntu devs and wait for Dapper to stabilize? :)
[04:33] <bhearsum> i didn't even know dapper was testing, heh.
[04:33] <TTilus> shirish: dunno, you just sounded so sure that there _is_ one  :)
[04:33] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: there is a program but being a new user in Linux it's too complex for me to install. I have given to one of my friend who is at home in Linux but it was hard to him also. Can you try the program? Would you try to install it under ubuntu cause I think a lot of people would like to use it
[04:33] <butcherbird> bhearsum: you might need to upgrade xfce4 to latest version manually
[04:33] <bhearsum> is there a bug tracking system for it?
[04:33] <shirish> o.k. bhearsum :- if u're having issues preferably file the bug in bugzilla with whatever symptoms u're gettomg
[04:34] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: The link is this http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Introduction
[04:34] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: at gentoo they told me the same program
[04:34] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: they said that it is hard to install
[04:34] <thegladiator> C-O-L-T, i can understand your problem . but i am sorry at the momet , I cant afford to install the program due to some other per-occupations
[04:35] <thegladiator> just keep asking in and around( dont spam) you's get someone to help
[04:35] <shirish> sure, first look at what gaim version is being used, then either at bugzilla.ubuntu.com or bugzilla.gnome whichever is appropriate or both.
[04:35] <ccc_> nalioth: hopefully linuxdc++ (i suppose that was what bart_ was asking about) will be added in the repos sometime soon, as it is getting pretty stable and is superior to dcgui/valknut
[04:35] <AIV> ubotu, thanks for the help with my screen resolution
[04:35] <ubotu> AIV: no problem
[04:35] <AIV> I was able to fix it that way
[04:35] <Slatibart> Q: ubuntu 5.04 had these nice unoffical addon cd with all these nice missing programms . where can i find an image for 5.10. the computer has only a modem line, so synaptic is not an option
[04:36] <Slatibart> universe and so on repositories
[04:36] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: If you know somebody then please tell to him or her, I think that I am not the only person interested in this. I am asking this question for a week but everybody tells me that there is a guide to how to install it. But the guide is nothing.
[04:36] <Slatibart> with 5.04 it was nice
[04:36] <Slatibart> just entering the cd, and nearly everything was automatic
[04:37] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: Being a windows user I can not simply install things, you can not tell to a user who it is using windows for 12 years that it is easy to install
[04:37] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: it is easy to install a deb file
[04:37] <Slatibart> with the guide it's a lot more work
[04:37] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: but not a java file
[04:37] <thegladiator> true I understand
[04:37] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, sure it is use java debs
[04:38] <pinkisntwell> if I don't install gnome and go with xfce, how do I configure networking?
[04:38] <gnomefreak> enable multiverse adn install java from there too :)
[04:38] <thegladiator> C-O-L-T, try pasting the exaclt nature in paste bin and then try out
[04:38] <thegladiator> he has java installed , thats what he said
[04:38] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: It requires java to install jar files of the program. I installed java from seveas repository but it still does not work
[04:38] <shirish> Slatibart : the guy who was supporting the Unofficial 5.04 is sick or something & in-between nobody has shown the initiative to take up the work for everybody.
[04:38] <gib8> what happens when i use LVM and have 2 HDs on the first is a part of home and on the second, when one disk is destroyed? can i get to the data of the other disk or r they lost like in some raidmodes?
[04:38] <mika0800> Ubuntu Hoary: I need to do "modprobe 3c509" to make my network work. Where should I put that command to run it automatically at every reboot and as early as possible in the boot process ?
[04:38] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, did you enable it?
[04:38] <thegladiator> C-O-L-T, just for the record , are you able to use other JAVA programs ?
[04:39] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: I made everything
[04:39] <gnomefreak> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:39] <C-O-L-T> what was required
[04:39] <C-O-L-T> but I could not
[04:39] <C-O-L-T> I gave it to somebody else
[04:39] <bipolar> mika0800: edit /etc/modules and add it to the list
[04:39] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, did you run that commadn?
[04:39] <C-O-L-T> but he could not install also
[04:39] <Slatibart> shirish, that is really bad
[04:39] <C-O-L-T> I have run everything in terminal
[04:39] <Slatibart> shirish: was really cool work
[04:39] <C-O-L-T> as it asked
[04:39] <bipolar> mika0800: on boot ubuntu will modprobe all the modules listed in that file.
[04:40] <Slatibart> shirish: hmm, do you think it would work with the new version still ?
[04:40] <mika0800> shirish: Are you telling me that the Hoary (=5.04 ?) is somehow unofficial ???
[04:41] <shirish> mika0800 u misunderstand me, stalibart was asking me about the Unofficial Add-On 5.04 CD which has some more packages then in the official
[04:41] <shirish> all multimedia stuff
[04:41] <mika0800> ok
[04:41] <gnomefreak> if you go to easysource you can have multimedia repos too
[04:41] <andydavid> hello help in postgres
[04:42] <shirish> I doubt as lots of things keep on changing
[04:42] <Slatibart> shirish: with the bare ubuntu 5.10 you can not even play mp3s ;) really bad
[04:42] <shirish> the kernel has changed so everything
[04:42] <shirish> I know, I know
[04:43] <roderick_> what about automatix?
[04:43] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: just try you or somebody the program, who is at home in linux and make a small wiki to those windows users like me who are using linux http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Introduction
[04:43] <ompaul> !automatix
[04:43] <gnomefreak> roderick_, dont use it
[04:43] <ubotu> [automatix]  messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[04:43] <mika0800> shirish: The kernel changes in 2.6.11 are exactly what I want to avoid. That's why I installed Hoary (with 2.6.10 kernel) and NOT the latest version.
[04:43] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, you want me to install it and write a wiki?
[04:43] <aggressor> can someone help me >?
[04:44] <butcherbird> gnomefreak: get to it!
[04:44] <gnomefreak> lol butcherbird
[04:44] <Myrtti> ubotu: tell aggressor about someone
[04:44] <roderick_> whhhhat if i already have automatix installed, you recommend i uninstall it/
[04:44] <aggressor> i wanna change my theme
[04:45] <Slatibart> shirish: any advise how i can get  a similiar cd/collection with reasonable amount of work ? the computer is on a modem line. so it's the package beforehand
[04:45] <shirish> mika I was explaining to stalibart about the changes between 5.04 & 5.10, if he has an old kernel then it might work, there is also possibility that things break. The great thing would be if he records it somewhere publicly available
[04:45] <gnomefreak> roderick_, yes
[04:45] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: somebody should do it :))) in order to contribute and help the ubuntu / kubuntu community. I am too new in Linxu to do that. If you don't wan't to do than tell to some developer or I don't know
[04:45] <aggressor> i dl theme in gmon/look.org
[04:45] <mika0800> I want to get rid of Gnome (which was accidentally installed even if I commanded server-expert into the installer) and install IceWm. Should I disable the GUI system first ?
[04:45] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do i hide a window in gnome?
[04:46] <CanYouHelpMePlz> then like use a key combo to make it visible.
[04:46] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, its not something that can be done right away but i will look into it
[04:46] <aggressor> kh
[04:46] <gnomefreak> what kind of file is it?
[04:46] <kemik> CanYouHelpMePlz:  minimize the window, then ALT-TAB
[04:46] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: a few jar files http://ww2d.csoft.net/index.php?title=Introduction.
[04:46] <mika0800> I think that kernel 2.6.11's changes break the Borland Kylix IDE's intgrated debugger. So I wanted to install 2.6.10 kernel... and soon I will install first IceWm instead of Gnome, and then Kylix to test  it.
[04:46] <shirish> One of the things is try to bribe a friend who has a fast connection, install ubuntu on his machine, grab all the debs & just burn them on the CD. I'm stickler for doing things right hence looking for somebody's expertise to make it similar to the 5.04 unofficial CD.
[04:46] <CanYouHelpMePlz> kemik: i mean like invisible ..
[04:47] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: I have to go now, but later I will be here again, and if you have managed something then tell me about it. If you don't wan't to do it, no problem just speak to somebody who can do it
[04:47] <kemik> CanYouHelpMePlz:  oi.. donno :)
[04:47] <pinkisntwell> if I do a server install will I have internet?
[04:47] <Slatibart> shirish: hmm, it's an approach, but not an easy one ;)
[04:48] <shirish> CanYouHelpMe* : I think what u're looking for is keybindings, look for keybindings stuff on the wiki there is possibility u might get some clues there.
[04:49] <shirish> I know, the other one is simple whenever u have time grab a few packages, burn them on the CD & slowly have a rough cut then once we have the proper know-how turn the CD into an Unoffical CD
[04:49] <AIV> if I'm going to download software that I can't get via apt-get, should I download a tar or an rpm?
[04:49] <shirish> either with rpm use alien with tar most probably u would need to compile stuff.
[04:50] <jorgp> !win32codecs
[04:50] <ubotu> methinks win32codecs is binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[04:50] <mika0800> shirish: you seem to be interested to cretae an unofficial version of Ubuntu.... Do you have any interest in Kylix?
[04:50] <shirish> what is this Kylix?
[04:52] <mika0800> about Kylix: http://shop.borland.com/dr/sat4/ec_Main.Entry17C?SID=39696&SP=10023&CID=0&PID=750285&PN=1&V1=750285&CUR=840&DSP=&PGRP=0&ABCODE=&CACHE_ID=0
[04:52] <theine> mika0800, what does kylix have to do with an unofficial version of Ubuntu?
[04:52] <thegladiator> !kylix
[04:52] <ubotu> thegladiator: Do they come in packets of five?
[04:52] <thegladiator> yeah they do , why not shut up if dont know ?!:)
[04:53] <mika0800> There should be Kylix Open version as well, which is free (No charge) but does not come with source code either (binary only) and has the additional limitation that anything you do with Kylix Open, is forced to be GPL licensed.
[04:53] <shirish> above my experitse
[04:53] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, are you here?
[04:54] <theine> mika0800, if the source code isn't availabe, it cannot require anybody else to use the GPL as it itself violates it
[04:54] <shirish> I like the KISS attitude, Borland is notorious for making things more complex, I don't need more windows, doors are alright
[04:54] <theine> mika0800, GPL software must not be available in binary only form
[04:54] <shirish> :)
[04:55] <mika0800> Kylix = A nice programming tool, but has some compatibility problems because Borland does not care to provide any updates since 2002. Can be used with kernel 2.6.10, though (so I think and I will test it) and IceWm desktop. Newer versions of KDE or Gnome cause probmlems as well...
[04:55] <Ng> kylix is pretty much a linux port of Delphi
[04:55] <Ng> but as mika0800 says, almost unsupported, so seriously not worth using
[04:56] <Ng> you can't tell your users to use 2.6.10 and an old Gnome ;)
[04:56] <theine> mika0800, that does not imply anything as far as kylix being GPL or not is concerned
[04:56] <mika0800> Kylix itself is not GPL software. Neither is the Kylix Open -version. But although it itself is not GPL -licensed, it (=Kylix Open) is free of charge, but it's license terms tell that any program you make with Kylix open is bound to be GPL licensed. Ig you want to make non-GPL programs with Kylix, then you need to purchase Kylix.
[04:56] <definity> s
[04:57] <theine> mika0800, that's really odd, but ok... I guess I was wrong then
[04:57] <grundo> hi all!
[04:58] <mika0800> Ng: exactly. I am a long time Delphi user, so now IO want to use Kylix with Linux. And, with 2.6.10 kernel (or older) and IceWm that seems perfectly possible.
[04:58] <theine> mika0800, from where did you get that information?
[04:58] <grundo> hwo i can install Icey Tower game on my Ubuntu?
[04:59] <brian_> is their something special i have to ahve to play dvds, i got vlc, but it doesnt seem to work
[05:00] <jamie> What is the best way to get mplayer, it is not in synaptics?
[05:00] <DiogoSoi> tem alguem aqui de mato grosso
[05:00] <grundo> use advence options
[05:00] <brian_> jamie, it is
[05:00] <brian_> jamie, do u have multiverse and universe enabled
[05:00] <mika0800> how is it odd? Borland is a commercial company and so they want to make money. But at the same time, they wanted some goodwill among linux usres. So they released Kylix Open, which allows you to create Kylix programs for free, but only as long as you release those programs you make with the free version of Kylix, as GPL licensed. But if you want to make money with those programs, then Borland obviously wants you to purchase Kylix.
[05:00] <shirish> mplayer has totem-mplayer as well as something else
[05:00] <jamie> brian_, really? doesn't seam to be
[05:00] <grundo> or get libdvdcss
[05:00] <brian_> jamie, i d/l'd it 2 minutes ago
[05:01] <grundo> sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[05:01] <mika0800> At least they used to have Kylix Open. Borland has changed their webpages a lot, so finding Kylix open may need some googling to find the correct page now...
[05:01] <jamie> how is it listed i searched mplayer and it is not there
[05:01] <grundo> :-)
[05:01] <brian_> jamie, how long have u been on linux?
[05:01] <grundo> update maybe?
[05:01] <jamie> did you have to add a repository?
[05:01] <ompaul> !tell DiogoSoi about pr
[05:01] <brian_> jamie, no
[05:01] <jamie> brian_, I have been a Gentoo user for years
[05:01] <grundo> !mplayer
[05:01] <ubotu> I guess mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[05:01] <ompaul> !tell DiogoSoi about br
[05:01] <jamie> brian_, new to ubuntu
[05:02] <brian_> jamie, i just enabled all the ones that come with ubuntu
[05:02] <grundo> :-)
[05:02] <brian_> can someone do the repositories command, i dunno what it is
[05:02] <brian_> rickard, sup man
[05:02] <brian_> rickard, its JoeBlow
[05:02] <rickard> hiho
[05:02] <grundo> hwo i can install Icey Tower game on my Ubuntu?
[05:02] <rickard> :)
[05:02] <jamie> brian_, so did i amnd it is not there. it has mozilla-mplayer but not regular mplayer
[05:03] <rickard> How do I make a dhcp release/renew?
[05:03] <shirish> jamie do a vi /etc/apt/sources.list & uncomment i.e. take out # in front of deb whatever path is given. Just remember don't uncomment the ones with sources which is there in the path as well as back-ports. Otherwise everything else is fine.
[05:03] <ompaul> rickard, the unapproved way is "sudo dhclient"
[05:03] <definity> this is a guess try ifconfig /renew
[05:03] <ompaul> rickard, cos I can't remember the other atm
[05:04] <rickard> unapproved.. but it works?
[05:04] <ompaul> rickard, yeap
[05:04] <brian_> jamie, did u go to all the community maintaied ones and make the multiverse?
[05:04] <mika0800> oh, and for those claiming that Kylix is not worth using: do I have much choice? There is FreePascal (FPC) and Lazarus but are they technically comparable to Kylix? Do they have an IDE with integrated debugger with CPU -View capability as well? - I think not.... so for now, I'll just continue to use Kylix anyway, although it needs some tweaking to get it properly running under new distros of Linux...
[05:04] <jamie> brian_,  yes i did
[05:04] <meursault> hi guys - has anyone used gtkpod?
[05:05] <Seveas> mika0800, you should simply use a better language...
[05:05] <Seveas> pascal/delphi is outdated
[05:05] <jamie> brian_, they are already uncommented, i did that a while ago, then sudo apt-get update, but no mplayer
[05:05] <brian_> jamie, one sec, ill check again
[05:05] <yatesy> kylix is very very buggy
[05:05] <yatesy> delphi was cool tho, i did it at college
[05:05] <aggressor> ON SIIN KEEGI EESTLANE :D >?
[05:05] <brian_> jamie, u have to manually add multiverse u know, to each one
[05:06] <jamie> brian_, I added multiverse to the community ones, that is what you mean right?
[05:06] <brian_> jamie, yea
[05:06] <mika0800> Seveas: only someone who does not know the  language well, can think so. Equally powerful as C++, but a LOT clearer syntax...
[05:06] <brian_> mplayer-386, i see it their
[05:06] <jamie> brian_, that was done but no mplayer. how is it listed in yours, the actual package name?
[05:06] <aggressor> can u help m
[05:07] <Foodcoman> morning
[05:07] <Seveas> mika0800, then ehy is the language practically dead? :)
[05:07] <aggressor> please someone help me
[05:07] <Seveas> !tell aggressor about someone
[05:07] <brian_> !tell brian_ about someone
[05:07] <aggressor> like, i wanna install theme, but iff i add it
[05:08] <aggressor> its costume
[05:08] <aggressor> 2 i need unpack it ormsth
[05:08] <mika0800> on Linux: for commercial reasons. Obviously Borland did not sell enough copies of Kylix. And on MS-Windows: it is not dead. It is very alive there and going on. Now it even can produce .NET apps for those who are interested (on windows)
[05:08] <brian_> jamie, did u select all the boxed on repositories?
[05:08] <Seveas> aggressor, art.gnome.org/faq.php
[05:08] <aggressor> kk ty
[05:08] <jamie> brian yes i did
[05:08] <jamie> mplayer-386 not there
[05:08] <brian_> jamie, do u see about 10 , or like 2 ?
[05:09] <Seveas> !info mplayr-386
[05:09] <Seveas> !info mplayer-386
[05:09] <ubotu> mplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3729 kB, Installed size: 8268 kB
[05:09] <Seveas> there...
[05:09] <jamie> brian_, 11
[05:09] <brian_> jamie, and each that says community maintained, u added multiverse to next to universe
[05:10] <jamie> brian_, yes i did
[05:10] <shirish> jamie try out after doing apt-get update
[05:10] <shirish> apt-cache search mplayer what do u get?
[05:10] <brian_> jamie, do u have dont download upgradable packages?
[05:10] <mod^> how do I mount NTFS partition (/dev/sda1) with readwrite?
[05:10] <mod^> I'm on live-cd
[05:11] <shirish> mod just do a mount -a that should do the trick
[05:11] <soundray> mod^, this is now supported.
[05:11] <soundray> mod^, this is not supported.
[05:11] <jamie> shirish, i did that already
[05:11] <brian_> jamie, u should have show disabled software sources, download upgradable packages, and delete old packged checked, and thats ALL
[05:11] <jamie> brian_, nope
[05:11] <mod^> but fstab doesn't have the sda partition
[05:11] <mod^> so I think mount -a won't do it
[05:12] <mika0800> Oh: and Delphi has much better string handling than C++. String length is limited only by available (virtual) memory and strings can contain also 0x00 -characters. So they are idea to be used as binary buffers also. And, unless you purposefully misuse them, there is no chance of a buffer overflow (which is the primary cause of todays security problems)
[05:12] <brian_> jamie, and make sure u save it
[05:12] <brian_> i did delphi like 10 years ago lol
[05:12] <brian_> i thought it was cool
[05:12] <brian_> i didn tlike the visual prog for it tho
[05:12] <shirish> then slightly more complex go to the cli & see what parted tells u, read the man of parted it'll list stuff
[05:12] <shirish> then from that make the necessary changes in /etc/fstab & then mount -a
[05:12] <butcherbird> mod^: dont think kernel supports ntfs write
[05:13] <soundray> mod^, there are live CDs that attempt to support NTFS read/write, but Ubuntu isn't one of them.
[05:13] <mod^> oh, I have a bit old version of knoppix
[05:13] <mod^> I'll try that
[05:13] <soundray> mod^, it's called Captive IIRC
[05:13] <jamie> brian_, I have it, i am running 686 kernel. but for some reason mplayer-386 does not show, but mplayer-586 showed up
[05:13] <shirish> perhaps u could try gparted.sourceforge.net there's a Live CD there download the iso, burn it, try it I'm not sure but think gparted has got ntfs write
[05:13] <jamie> brian_, i will use that
[05:14] <brian_> jamie, r u sure that will run on your system?
[05:14] <rafael> heyyyyyyyyyyy
[05:14] <soundray> mod^, it's called Captive on Knoppix
[05:14] <mod^> ok
[05:14] <Slatibart> when i doubleclick on the title of a window, how can i switch behaviour from maximising to max horizontial only ? (gnome)
[05:14] <jamie> brian_, i checked mplayer-686 and it automatically used mplayer-586
[05:14] <mod^> I only would need to move Fonts2 folder to "Fonts" folder in c:\windows -directory
[05:14] <brian_> jamie, what r u getting mplayer for?
[05:14] <brian_> jamie, what r u getting mplayer for
[05:14] <brian_> jamie, vlx and gxine are way better
[05:14] <jamie> brian_, I don't like totem
[05:14] <brian_> jamie, vlc and gxine are way better
[05:15] <rafael> hey sombady knows where is the ubuntu  chats in spanish
[05:15] <rafael> ???
[05:15] <soundray> !es
[05:15] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:15] <brian_> jamie, get gxine and vlc for video, and beep for mp3
[05:15] <butcherbird> jamie: dont listen to him!
[05:15] <brian_> butcherbird, ill shoot you!
[05:15] <brian_> !shoot duck
[05:15] <ubotu> brian_: Do they come in packets of five?
[05:15] <brian_> !shoot
[05:15] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, brian_
[05:15] <jamie> i am used to audacious for mp3 I like vlc but i want mplayer
[05:15] <brian_> ehh, dont work
[05:16] <brian_> jamie, alright but its been giving me major problems with mp3s
[05:16] <brian_> jamie, alright but its been giving me major problems with dvd
[05:16] <jamie> mplayer always worked in gentoo perfectly for me
[05:16] <brian_> jamie, make sure u get the fonts package, i get problems with out the mplyer fonts
[05:17] <jamie> brian_, just had that problem
[05:17] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do i remove tar and bz2 from terminal?
[05:17] <jamie> is the font package in synaptic?
[05:17] <brian_> jamie, :)
[05:17] <brian_> jamie, I know
[05:17] <ompaul> brian you can cheat by ln a correct type of font to what it wants in your home directory
[05:18] <ompaul> brian_, one you like :)
[05:18] <soundray> CanYouHelpMePlz, 'rm file.bz2'
[05:18] <jamie> brian, think i got it
[05:18] <soundray> CanYouHelpMePlz, or 'sudo rm file.bz2' if it's owned by root.
[05:18] <CanYouHelpMePlz> soundray: isn't it like tar xcvz ?
[05:18] <jamie> ^ wonders why mplayer-fonts is not automatic when adding mplayer?
[05:19] <soundray> CanYouHelpMePlz, you asked to remove, not open.
[05:19] <brian_> ompaul, waa`
[05:19] <CanYouHelpMePlz> soundray: oh.. lol how do i pen a tar.bz2
[05:19] <brian_> god ,how do i force quit a program
[05:19] <soundray> CanYouHelpMePlz, tar jxvf file.tar.bz2
[05:19] <yut> ci sono italiani?
[05:19] <soundray> !it
[05:19] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:20] <brian_> !es
[05:20] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:20] <jamie> brian_,  I would never use mplayer for mp3 anyway, I use it for the plugin to firefox, and also i use it to play with my tivo
[05:20] <soundray> brian_, god seems to have quit
[05:20] <brian_> soundray, damnitt!! Do u know how to force quit?
[05:21] <shirish> o.k. guys 5 minutes more then I quit
[05:21] <LoPMX> hi, how can i disable the minimize border (while minimizing window) in gnome?
[05:21] <brian_> jamie, i do it all with gxine
[05:21] <soundray> brian_, man kill
[05:21] <soundray> brian_, man killall
[05:21] <brian_> soundray, ....
[05:21] <brian_> soundray, seriously
[05:21] <soundray> brian_, or use the killer applet
[05:21] <s0ciopath> man xkill
[05:22] <soundray> brian_, I am serious
[05:22] <flogiston> Anyone who managed to run wc3 trough wine?
[05:23] <dino_> hi to everyone
[05:23] <shirish> [OT]  I see these cute messages when people leave how do I enable that in GAIM?
[05:23] <Vernon> hello. i'm tryin' to install breezy on a acer travelmate 332t with 64mb ram. system crashes when is probing the ide-cd driver
[05:23] <dino_> someone speaking italia?
[05:23] <dino_> someone speaking italian?
[05:23] <Vernon> what can i do?
[05:23] <Vernon> dino_: io
[05:23] <dino_> ciao
[05:23] <soundray> !it
[05:24] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:24] <dino_> ok grazie!
[05:24] <shirish> thanx ubotu otherwise it would be a pain for us guys who can only speak English
[05:25] <soundray> Vernon, 64MB is a bit tight...
[05:25] <soundray> Vernon, does this crash occur before or after installation?
[05:25] <Vernon> soundray: during the hardware probe
[05:26] <Vernon> 86%
[05:26] <Vernon> now i try the server installation
[05:26] <soundray> Vernon, booting which kernel? The one on the install CD?
[05:27] <Vernon> soundray: i'vr just pressed enter
[05:27] <flogiston> i've succesfully installed warcraft3 with wine. but when i try to run the game wine says that there is no cd in the drive.
[05:27] <soundray> Vernon, I am trying to find out what stage you are at.
[05:28] <Vernon> soundray: i've only chosed the language
[05:28] <Vernon> the it scans for hardware
[05:28] <Vernon> s/the/then
[05:29] <soundray> Vernon, I'll be right back...
[05:29] <Vernon> it freeze in the server installation, too
[05:30] <zwnj> what's equal to "rpm -qf /path/to/file" in dpkg system?
[05:30] <Ng> dpkg -S
[05:33] <kouwe> apt-get install rar doesnt work it gets an error
[05:33] <kouwe> old version etc.
[05:33] <fredforfaen> evening suckers
[05:33] <soundray> Vernon, is your CD drive external?
[05:33] <Vernon> yes
[05:33] <Vernon> is a combo, cd+floppy
[05:33] <w00t> !nvidia
[05:33] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:34] <goog> i'm plugging a monitor into my laptop - is there anyway to set a different resolution for the monitor than the laptop screen?
[05:34] <soundray> Vernon, have you got any other Linux live CDs available -- Knoppix, DSL?
[05:34] <shirish> any gaim expert here?
[05:35] <flogiston> Don't know if im one.
[05:35] <narles> i just downloaded a movie torrent.. and i have two folders with lots of rar files in them and a sfv file... how do i make a movie?
[05:35] <flogiston> Maybe i can help.
[05:35] <flogiston> unrar-nonfree
[05:35] <shirish> flogiston wanna have a nice message when quitting or going away how to do that?
[05:35] <flogiston> Message to who?
[05:35] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrrrr i hate .zip files :(
[05:36] <shirish> Message to you floiston :
[05:36] <Vernon> soundray: now someone answered me. is a bug
[05:36] <j3di> can you do a server install off the standard install disk?
[05:36] <shirish> flogiston typo issues :)
[05:36] <iamdigitalman> how come I cant get my web cam to work?
[05:36] <shirish> j3di you can do a server install
[05:36] <flogiston> I dont know..
[05:37] <kouwe> what app should i get with apt-get install to unrar some rar files.... apt-get install rar doenst work..
[05:37] <soundray> Vernon, you mean a bug of the Ubuntu installer?
[05:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> kouwe: 'sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree'
[05:37] <iamdigitalman> I tryed camorama -d /dev/ttyUSB2
[05:37] <soundray> iamdigitalman, is it supported in Linux?
[05:37] <j3di> ok.. is there any documentation of what the server install is in comparison to the standard install?
[05:37] <flogiston> Shirish srry
[05:37] <kouwe> PuMpErNiCkLe, unavailable that error...
[05:38] <narles> i just downloaded a movie torrent and have no idea how to make it into a movie with the .sfv and .rar files.. can anyone help me?
[05:38] <narles> ^ torrent noob
[05:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> kouwe: You have to have the multiverse repository enabled.
[05:38] <Vernon> soundray: yes. i'll install hoary, then upgrade to breezy
[05:38] <gnomefreak> j3di, server install is basic very very basic has what you would need to run it as a server (no desktop)  normal install installs gnome and most things you will need for home use
[05:38] <shirish> try the wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:39] <soundray> Vernon, good luck... server is a good idea with only 64MB.
[05:39] <Vernon> soundray: i need X
[05:39] <iamdigitalman> I dont know, it's an old Compaq USB rebranded intel YC72
[05:39] <shirish> o.k. guys logging out
[05:39] <Vernon> soundray: i don't care of the swap wastes time
[05:39] <iamdigitalman> my palm is on /dev/ttyUSB1, but only appears during a hotsync.
[05:39] <goog> anyone know how I can use different X settings for the monitor that my laptop is plugged into?
[05:40] <soundray> Vernon, perhaps go for xubuntu then.
[05:40] <joko> dcc chat
[05:40] <Vernon> i'st not my laptop. on mine i've a very bare debian with X and evilwm
[05:40] <soundray> iamdigitalman, when you plug the camera, do you see any related messages in /var/log/syslog ?
[05:40] <joko> #ubuntu
[05:41] <iamdigitalman> Im using the device manager.
[05:41] <j3di> so is there a list of apps installed? apache? proftpd? etc..
[05:41] <Manifold> Hey.
[05:41] <joko> hey u
[05:41] <Manifold> How come the Firefox in the repository is 1.0.7?
[05:42] <Manifold> I thought the latest firefox ws 1.5
[05:42] <iamdigitalman> it is.
[05:42] <Ng> Manifold: ubuntu doesn't release new versions of packages until the next ubuntu release, only security/bugfixes go into the stable branch
[05:42] <Manifold> So where do I look for the latest Firefox then?
[05:42] <iamdigitalman> www.getfirefox.com
[05:43] <Ng> Manifold: there's a page in the wiki called FirefoxNewVersion that will guide you through upgrading by hand
[05:43] <Manifold> Thank you, Ng.
[05:43] <Manifold> !firefox
[05:43] <Manifold> !firefox1.5
[05:43] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:44] <Linuturk> question: I've got a folder i pulled over from my ntfs drive, and it's all read only. What's the easiest way to set these permissions for Owner Write?
[05:44] <narles> rar can only be used in terminal?
[05:44] <sorush20> in the ubuntu forums how do I find a list of all the posts I have made?
[05:44] <sovvy2009> hey all
[05:45] <soundray> Linuturk, 'chmod -R o+w folder/'
[05:45] <Vernon> bye
[05:45] <soundray> Vernon, good luck.
[05:45] <sovvy2009> aha, its Uncle Vernon
[05:46] <Vernon> tnx :)
[05:46] <soundray> sovvy2009, independent as a hog on ice
[05:46] <narles> how do i extract rar files to a new folder using rar?
[05:46] <Linuturk> thanks
[05:47] <Linuturk> crap, i hit "/" when I did that soundray
[05:48] <Linuturk> is that a problem?
[05:48] <UncleD> is there any problems with removing the ntpdate call in /etc/rcS.d/ (it fails every time on bootup)
[05:48] <DontFIND> HI GUYS i really need some help..i recently installed ubuntu and i cant connect to my wifi router...simply cos my wifi adapter isnt installed..linux detects the adapter but doesnt see it in network conections. its is a US ROBOTICS USB WIFI ADAPTER...can any one please tell me how to install this usb adapter??
[05:48] <soundray> Linuturk, did you do this as root or as a regular user?
[05:48] <Linuturk> regular
[05:49] <soundray> Linuturk, and you didn't use sudo?
[05:49] <UncleD> Synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org (It fails every time on bootup) - anyone have this problem?
[05:49] <Linuturk> soundray, no sudo
[05:50] <DontFIND> can anyone help with the problem im having plz????
[05:51] <Linuturk> soundray, I ran this in the terminal from my Home directory "chmod -R o+w FAIA/" and the permissions didn't change. FAIA being the folder in my Home directory where all the subfiles and folders are
[05:51] <soundray> Linuturk, then it won't cause much of a problem. You will only have modified files that were owned by the user. User-owned files that are write-protected are quite rare.
[05:51] <DontFIND> can anyone help with the problem im having plz????
[05:52] <soundray> !anyone
[05:52] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[05:52] <sorush20> guys I keep getting this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6845
[05:52] <DontFIND> HI GUYS i really need some help..i recently installed ubuntu and i cant connect to my wifi router...simply cos my wifi adapter isnt installed..linux detects the adapter but doesnt see it in network conections. its is a US ROBOTICS USB WIFI ADAPTER...can any one please tell me how to install this usb adapter??
[05:52] <w00t> help me !!! how to setup a external monitor on a laptop using nvidia 32 go graphic card? thanks
[05:53] <soundray> Linuturk, sorry, my mistake
[05:53] <soundray> Linuturk, chmod -R u+w FAIA/
[05:53] <gnomefreak> sorush20, without sudo just use make see if that helps
[05:53] <butcherbird> UncleD: if you want it to stop trying to sync then maybe sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[05:53] <Syrus> here's a question: I have a computer at home called mediapc, and I'd like to access it sometimes on my lan via one ip address, and sometimes from work via an internet address, is there any way I can use the same hostname for both IPs (without switching network profiles and all that crap)?
[05:54] <soundray> Linuturk, revert the damage from my mistake by doing 'chmod -R o-w FAIA/'
[05:54] <soundray> Linuturk, u=user, o=others
[05:54] <w00t> help me !!! how to setup a external monitor on a laptop using nvidia 32 go graphic card? thanks
[05:54] <Linuturk> soundray, that did it.thanks buddie
[05:55] <sorush20> gnomefreak: no it dosen't work at all http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6846
[05:55] <soundray> DontFIND, do you happen to know the name of the wifi chipset is in your adapter?
[05:55] <funman> Excuse me, just wondering, I used ubuntuguide.org last time I had ubuntu...and it says to get extra repositories. Of course these won't help much on Breezy, but would anyone know what the new ones in this case would be ?
[05:56] <soundray> !tell funman about easysource
[05:56] <soundray> funman, perhaps ubotu's hint will help.
[05:56] <funman> Thank you =)
[05:56] <Linuturk> !dual monitor
[05:56] <ubotu> Linuturk: I give up, what is it?
[05:57] <tgwj> hi. I have changed "hdd" to "hdb" in /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/device.map and /boot/grub/menu.lst. I am on the ubuntu livecd with ubuntu on disk in chroot. grub-install /dev/hda sais "cannot find device for /boot" /boot is on the / partition. what now ?
[05:57] <Linuturk> !dual display
[05:57] <ubotu> Linuturk: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:57] <tomukas> i just configured wlan at a laptop... now i got the problem: sudo: unable to lookup <name> via gethostbyname()
[05:58] <Linuturk> !dual display
[05:58] <ubotu> Linuturk: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[05:58] <w00t> help me !!! how to setup a external monitor on a laptop using nvidia 32 go graphic card? thanks
[05:58] <w00t> help me !!! how to setup a external monitor on a laptop using nvidia 32 go graphic card? thanks
[05:58] <gnomefreak> !help
[05:58] <tgwj> w00t, check the nvidia redme
[05:59] <Linuturk> tgwj, where is that readme?
[05:59] <Answer> Is there a way to run like a LiveCD from the 5.10 install cd ?
[05:59] <soundray> Linuturk, in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/
[05:59] <tgwj> nvidia.com where you foenload the proprietary dribvetrs
[06:00] <wonderer> I think so
[06:00] <Prozac> where is the openssl located?
[06:00] <soundray> w00t, check out readme's in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/
[06:00] <tgwj> anyone have an idea on my problem ?
[06:00] <soundray> tgwj, what are you trying to achieve?
[06:01] <tgwj> I have changed "hdd" to "hdb" in /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/device.map and /boot/grub/m I have changed "hdd" to "hdb" in /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/device.map and /boot/grub/menu.lst. I am on the ubuntu livecd with ubuntu on disk in chroot. grub-install /dev/hda sais "cannot find device for /boot" /boot is on the / partition. what now ?enu.lst. I am on the ubuntu livecd with ubuntu on disk in chroot. grub-install /dev/hda sais "cannot find device fo
[06:01] <tgwj> r /boot" /boot is on the / partition. what now ?
[06:01] <tomukas> what has to be written in the /etc/hosts?
[06:01] <tgwj> oops copied parts  twice :o
[06:01] <soundray> tgwj, reinstalling grub on the hd?
[06:01] <psusi> Answer: no... you run the livecd like a livecd
[06:01] <tgwj> yes.
[06:03] <TokenBad> ok here is another hard drive problem....as I was downloading ubuntu started showing out..and the file browser locked up..now...trying to download a file it says the drive is full but there is 3.6 gigs free on the drive
[06:03] <tgwj> and it can't find the device for /boot. there is none. how do I tell grub-install that it's on /
[06:04] <Answer> TokenBad: get to a text terminal and type  "df -ah"
[06:04] <soundray> tgwj, still trying to understand your problem. Did you not install grub when you installed Ubuntu?
[06:04] <TokenBad> Answer, ok and I am looking for?
[06:04] <Answer> TokenBad: free space vs used space
[06:04] <tgwj> I am moving the drives from one computer to another. trying to fix windows the mbr got erased.
[06:05] <tgwj> am I trying to fix it.
[06:05] <Answer> TokenBad: Use%
[06:05] <TokenBad> tmpfs                 507M   13M  494M   3% /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile
[06:05] <TokenBad> what is that?
[06:05] <Answer> TokenBad: you can ignore that... look for /dev/hda1 or /dev/hda2
[06:05] <bina> how do I make the computer mount /dev/shm with about 512MB on boot.  at the moment it's mounting it with only 126MB
[06:05] <TokenBad> says only 3.2 gigs free
[06:05] <TokenBad> or 96% used
[06:06] <Answer> TokenBad: then that's how much u have free
[06:06] <TokenBad> and my OS is on a different drive
[06:06] <TokenBad> but why can the file not be saved to it?
[06:06] <Answer> TokenBad: maybe its not mounted or the permissions are incorrect
[06:06] <TokenBad> it was working till the file browser locked up..and all that..
[06:07] <Answer> then kill the file browser
[06:07] <TokenBad> I rebooted
[06:07] <TokenBad> but if I save from like a text editor
[06:07] <TokenBad> it saves
[06:07] <TokenBad> so know its not read only
[06:07] <soundray> tgwj, you have Windows on hda, and Ubuntu on hdb, which in a former machine was hdd?
[06:07] <tgwj> yes.
[06:08] <tgwj> sorry I was unclear
[06:09] <tgwj> I have changed /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/device.map to reflect the hdb/hdd change. but the real problem is now the "cannot find device for /boot" stuff. I have never had that when I recovered grub on a different machine when switching distros
[06:10] <builder> after installing the phpmyadmin package what url should I go to to use it?
[06:10] <soundray> tgwj, have you tried running grub-install with the --root-directory option without chroot?
[06:10] <tgwj> builder, localhost/phpmyadmin
[06:10] <tgwj> soundray, no.
[06:11] <builder> tgwj, when I go there nothing shows up, 404
[06:12] <tgwj> soundray, no error this time. thanks for the tip. I'll be back if there are mor problems.
[06:12] <builder> tgwj, does the symlink to sites-available/default need to be in sites/enabled?
[06:13] <soundray> builder, he's gone...
[06:13] <Kejk_PL> Hi, I have iritating question - when will be firefox 1.5 backport?
[06:13] <Pygi> when dapper is out...
[06:13] <Kejk_PL> ups
[06:13] <Ng> Kejk_PL: have a look at the FirefoxNewVersion wiki page
[06:13] <Pygi> kejk: just compile firefox out of CVS
[06:13] <Ng> out of cvs?!
[06:13] <Ng> why on earth would you say that?!
[06:13] <gnomefreak> Kejk_PL, you can get it from :
[06:13] <Kejk_PL> LOL :)
[06:13] <Pygi> yup, it works good :)
[06:13] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[06:13] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:13] <Ng> really don't do that
[06:13] <joko> dal.net
[06:13] <Pygi> ng: cause cvs firefox works good :))))
[06:13] <Ng> if nothing else you'll be waiting a very long time for it to compile ;)
[06:13] <Pygi> I do it, and it works :)
[06:13] <z4nd|nix> hey all
[06:13] <Pygi> ng: not really :P
[06:14] <Ng> Pygi: how wonderful for you, that's really bloody awful advice to give in here though
[06:14] <Pygi> ng: lol :P
[06:14] <Pygi> !ff1.5
[06:14] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:14] <Kejk_PL> thanks
[06:14] <Pygi> well, 1.5 has a lot of memory leaks....
[06:14] <Kejk_PL> I simpli don't have time to compile... :(
[06:15] <marius_> How do I move a file from its current directory and back to the directory which the directory is positioned? On the terminal
[06:15] <gnomefreak> Kejk_PL, following that wiki took unst an hour for me atleast
[06:15] <gnomefreak> id say about 30 mins
[06:16] <Pygi> freaky: I checked the thingy :P
[06:16] <Kejk_PL> It is quite simple. But I want package :P
[06:16] <Kejk_PL> hehe
[06:16] <Pygi> freaky: thats seems a bit too simple tho :P use a subchapters maybe?
[06:16] <z4nd|nix> anyone know how to install Intel 855GM graphc driver ?
[06:16] <gnomefreak> Pygi oh yes going to i just wanted to start with outline
[06:17] <Pygi> freaky: k, so we could start working on it
[06:17] <Kejk_PL> bye
[06:17] <TokenBad> ok figured it out...
[06:17] <marius_> If I press: "mv filename .." will that make the file go back one folder?
[06:18] <gnomefreak> Pygi, ok thats fine i am at school tonight so i will start on it tomorrow sometime (few hrs to a day) should be done
[06:18] <soundray> marius_, yes.
[06:18] <rc> how do is say or? pls help. thnx.  "if [ $start > $end -a $start = $end ] " is "-a" the way to do or?
[06:18] <gnomefreak> im almost done writing a how to on ww2d that i will finish today i hope
[06:18] <marius_> okey thanks
[06:19] <Linuturk> so, i loaded nvidia-settings. restarted the xserver with control+alt+backspace and now my xserver is screwed up. I can't boot to the gui
[06:19] <jono> I don't have a floppy drive, but if you put a floppy disk in the drive in Breezy, does it automatically mount and a nautilus appear?
[06:20] <gnomefreak> jono, where did you put the floppy disk if you dont have a floppy drive?
[06:20] <Krishnautix> whats a metacity theme?
[06:20] <gnomefreak> !themes
[06:20] <Krishnautix> ! metacity themes
[06:20] <ubotu> Krishnautix: Are you on ritalin?
[06:20] <Krishnautix> ! metacity
[06:20] <ubotu> Krishnautix: Wish i knew
[06:20] <soundray> jono, I don't have a floppy drive either, but I don't think it will.
[06:21] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Krishnautix about themes
[06:21] <jono> gnomefreak, huh?
[06:21] <Krishnautix> thanks
[06:21] <jono> gnomefreak, assuming you have a floppy drive of course
[06:21] <jono> :)
[06:21] <gnomefreak> jono, you said you didnt have a flopy drive but you put a floppt disk in
[06:21] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhhh ok i thought you did that :(
[06:21] <Ng> jono: the hal daemon probes drives regularly, so it should notice i think
[06:22] <Krishnautix> thanks gnomefreak
[06:22] <Ng> or maybe it's g-v-m that does it
[06:22] <gnomefreak> yw Krishnautix
[06:22] <jono> gnomefreak, :P
[06:22] <Ng> something used to make my kernel whinge every few seconds that there was no cd in the drive at least ;)
[06:22] <gnomefreak> ubotu doesnt post my info in room anymore :(
[06:22] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:22] <gnomefreak> ok now he does :(
[06:22] <jono> does anyone have a floppy drive to test this?
[06:22] <St-> hello
[06:22] <St-> my error is sudo: no passwd entry for root
[06:23] <rickard> !cedega
[06:23] <ubotu> cedega is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[06:23] <St-> what can i do ?
[06:23] <psusi> I don't have a floppy drive, but I don't think it can notice it... if it probed it every few seconds to see if a disc was in the drive, you'd constantly be annoyed by hearing the floppy spin up and the light go on with no disc in the drive
[06:23] <jono> psusi, sure, good point :)
[06:24] <CanYouHelpMePlz> hmm i cant seem to get sound in teamspeak to work..
[06:24] <psusi> because if memory serves, you have to actually spin up the floppy to see if there is media in it...
[06:25] <psusi> but who cares?  floppies are as dead as dos... may they both rest in pieces!
[06:25] <St-> my error is sudo: no passwd entry for root | help help me!
[06:25] <Seveas> St-, put your /etc/passwd on the pastebin
[06:26] <yancheng> i was wondering when i perform search using "find ~ -name netbean* 2>/dev/null"
[06:26] <yancheng> i can only get the result "/home/yccheok/netbeans-4.1", although i have /home/yccheok/netbeans-4.1/bin/netbeans
[06:27] <paulproteus> yancheng: netbean\*
[06:27] <paulproteus> or 'netbean*'
[06:27] <paulproteus> yancheng: Try this for me:
[06:27] <paulproteus> yancheng: echo netbean*
[06:27] <paulproteus> Do that in /tmp/ first, and then in your $HOME.
[06:27] <CanYouHelpMePlz> somone here got teamspeak and can do me a favor?
[06:27] <yancheng> paulproteus: cool
[06:28] <yancheng> paulproteus: may i noe the difference of 'netbean*' and "netbean*"?
[06:28] <jamie> how can i get firefox 1.5 in ubuntu, the 1.07 is the only one in synaptic?
[06:28] <Seveas> !ff15
[06:28] <ubotu> Seveas: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:28] <Seveas> !ff1.5
[06:28] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:28] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[06:28] <Mozo> I have troubles to run anyone QuakeWorld client for Linux in my Ubuntu.
[06:28] <paulproteus> yancheng: Have you done the echo in both places?
[06:29] <paulproteus> yancheng: 'netbean*' is not expanded by the shell.  netbean* alone is expanded by the shell.
[06:29] <gnomefreak> i now see what everyone meant stay away from java itsss slow
[06:29] <psusi> yes... I hate all that is java
[06:29] <paulproteus> gnomefreak: Only the Swing Java GUI tool is necessarily slow.
[06:29] <paulproteus> The language's e.g. computation isn't that slow.
[06:30] <gnomefreak> this ww2d thing is very very slow
[06:30] <yancheng> paulproteus: may i noe wat is mean by expanded by shell?
[06:30] <HaiKarate> werd! Sing blows klinks!
[06:30] <paulproteus> yancheng: Did you try the "echo"?
[06:30] <psusi> java is all around slow and bloated... that's what comes from lazy programmers who rely on garbage collectors to clean up their memory
[06:30] <paulproteus> yancheng: In both /tmp/ and $HOME ?
[06:30] <HaiKarate> and sWing too! werd!
[06:30] <paulproteus> yancheng: "echo" simply outputs whatever it's told.  e.g., "echo hi" would output hi.
[06:31] <trappist> psusi: like perl programmers, ruby programmers, python programmers, etc.?
[06:31] <vega-> psusi: that's bs
[06:31] <yancheng> paulproteus: ya, i did tat :)
[06:31] <trappist> there's nothing wrong with the vm/interpreter doing garbage collection
[06:31] <psusi> trappist: which is why those are all scripting languages, not reall suitible for large applications
[06:32] <psusi> trappist: yes... there is... when it decides to collect, it stalls the app, and it uses twice as much memory because of the buddy allocator
[06:32] <yancheng> anywhere, i just wan to find out my long lost netbean, now i get it ;)
[06:32] <hmp> one linux box is running "syslogd -L", how can i receive the syslog remotely ?
[06:32] <polpak> Anyone here play Savage
[06:32] <polpak> ?
[06:32] <trappist> psusi: way I see it, java is for portability, and you should be prepared to make performance sacrifices for write-once-run-anywhere, but I wouldn't call the programmers lazy because the vm does garbage collection for em
[06:32] <rickard> !cedega
[06:32] <ubotu> I guess cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[06:33] <paulproteus> trappist: Python is also for portability. (-:
[06:33] <polpak> oh, drat. I thought this was ubuntu-offtopic. Sorry =p
[06:33] <psusi> trappist: most of the programs on your system write now are written in portable C just fine... and if you really insist on portable binaries, well... you can use mono for that
[06:33] <CanYouHelpMePlz> somone here got teamspeak and can do me a favor?
[06:33] <gnomefreak> psusi, thats over there >>>>
[06:34] <rickard> Anyone knows how to install cedega from a binary package?
[06:34] <mcphail> Is there any major Linux C or C++ app which doesn't have a "lazy" developer by that argument? What major piece of software doesn't have memory leaks?
[06:34] <SteveStevings> how do i enable tv out on xorg?
[06:34] <trappist> rickard: you mean like a .deb?
[06:34] <kemik> psusi:  isnt mono just as bloated as the java vm ?
[06:35] <rickard> trappist - no.. its like a folder with lots of files
[06:35] <psusi> mcphail: memory leaks are rare, not the norm... and they aren't lazy beacuse they actually manage their own memory... sometimes they make mistakes... but most of the time they get it right which results in less memory usage and more responsive applications than using gc
[06:35] <diannawills> hm.. if you disabled eth0 from connecting in the installation, how do you bring make it working afterwards?
[06:35] <trappist> rickard: was it originally a tarball?
[06:35] <paulproteus> yancheng: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/quoting.html may help you
[06:35] <psusi> kemik: it can be... you have the option of using gc with mono... but you can also write unmanaged code
[06:35] <trappist> rickard: if not, what kind of files
[06:35] <paulproteus> kemik: The Java VM isn't all that bloated anymore.
[06:36] <tomukas> have a wlanproblem: im using Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG ... the connection is disconnected automatically after 10 minutes
[06:36] <rickard> trappist - well, first it was zip files, then I extracted them, then there where rar files, then I unrared them.. and now its a folder
[06:36] <trappist> tomukas: there are some issues with the current version of the driver.  it's possible to update the driver, and you probably want to update the firmware as well.
[06:36] <kemik> paulproteus:  well it does allocate a whole lot of memory
[06:36] <paulproteus> kemik: That's true, I suppose.
[06:36] <trappist> rickard: I guarantee you didn't get that from transgaming.
[06:37] <kemik> but i enjoy coding in java
[06:37] <kemik> it's all so easy ;)
[06:37] <mcphail> psusi: A quick glance at a security advisory will show that they make mistakes more often than "sometimes"
[06:37] <rickard> trappist - i did.. sort of
[06:37] <kemik> C++ is nice too, but more timeconsuming and you'll have to be more watchful
[06:38] <trappist> rickard: you didn't.  if you want to steal very nice, very cheap software, kindly don't ask for help with the warez distribution format here.
[06:38] <foxiness> hi,when i do apt-get update it will output this "Could not download all repository indexes ",the reason behind this is wheel i download the index the connection drooped, and to solve this on simple way i will Wait some day to be this index be out date ,is there other way?
[06:38] <tomukas> trappist: i will try to, thx
[06:39] <tore> is there a tarball dist of a minimal ubuntu system?  (for easy installation as a xen domain, chroot, or similar)
[06:39] <psusi> why the hell would someone zip a rar?
[06:40] <tomukas> trappist: i dont know how to use the firmware-i
[06:40] <psusi> tore: you can install the debootstrap package, then debootstrap a chroot
[06:40] <tomukas> files
[06:41] <tore> psusi: ok.  I don't have ubuntu here, see, but would debootstrap work on RHEL if I compiled it there?
[06:43] <Morrowyn> hi
[06:43] <Ng> tore: in theory, yes
[06:44] <Morrowyn> when i try to mount my lexar jumpdrive usb stick , gnome says: Error: given udi is not a mountable device. However the usb stick is in fat32 formatted. Any ideas how i can mount it under ubuntu?
[06:44] <tore> Ng: okay, let's hope so.  I've already fetched the source of debootstrap.  :-)
[06:46] <netstar> how do I change cpu frequencies in ubuntu?
[06:46] <tore> hm.  debootstrap's Makefile wasn't really written for /usr/local-installations :|
[06:46] <kameron> netstar, that's generally a bios level thing to do
[06:47] <kameron> netstar, OS level overclocking is kinda lame, IMO. i don't know of any tools available to do that in linux, though there may be some.
[06:47] <netstar> kameron, heh
[06:48] <netstar> kinda lame?
[06:48] <netstar> for a laptop?
[06:48] <kameron> netstar, it's just cleaner to do it at the bios level. what is your bios
[06:48] <thegladiator> i'd like my mozilla to open new windows in a diff tab and not a new window ! as simple as it seems , but I cant get this done . Can someone help me ?
[06:49] <St-> Seveas, this is my /etc/passwd http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6847 ! where is root:x:... ?
[06:49] <polpak> thegladiator, have you downloaded the 'tabbed browser' preferences extention ?
[06:50] <thegladiator> not sure polpak just default breezy
[06:50] <Seveas> St-, why the hell did you delete it?!?
[06:50] <thegladiator> i'll check in adept
[06:50] <thegladiator> what shud  check for ?
[06:50] <polpak> thegladiator, it's not there
[06:50] <thegladiator> then?
[06:50] <St-> is my error delete root user :\ what can i do ?
[06:50] <polpak> thegladiator, if you go to tools->extentions (in firefox)
[06:51] <polpak> thegladiator, or are you not using firefox?
[06:51] <St-> Seveas,
[06:51] <thegladiator> yes I am
[06:51] <mcphail> !info cpudyn
[06:51] <ubotu> cpudyn: (CPU dynamic frequency control for processors with scaling), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.0-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 23 kB, Installed size: 120 kB
[06:51] <lucasvo> WTF??!!
[06:51] <lucasvo> lucasvo@lama:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[06:51] <lucasvo> Password:
[06:51] <lucasvo> Segmentation faultsts... 92%
[06:51] <Seveas> St-, boot from a live cd, restore root in /etc/passwd, /etc/group and /etc/shadow
[06:51] <St-> tnx
[06:51] <polpak> thegladiator, you can download all kinds of extentions from addons.mozilla.org
[06:51] <thegladiator> yes i am right there
[06:52] <polpak> thegladiator, search for tabbed browsing
[06:52] <thegladiator> its possible for me to brows in tabbed mode polpak but not when I click on a link
[06:52] <polpak> thegladiator, and try the 'tabbed browser preferences'
[06:52] <thegladiator> yes i am installin it
[06:52] <polpak> thegladiator, then you can set your options for tabbed browsing
[06:53] <thegladiator> there are 53 under tabbed browsing
[06:53] <jorgp> how do I search system and find out what package contains prtypes.h
[06:53] <Seveas> !find prtypes.h
[06:53] <lucasvo> E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
[06:53] <lucasvo> E: Error occurred while processing libsigc++-2.0-0c2a (NewVersion1)
[06:53] <lucasvo> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ch.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages
[06:53] <lucasvo> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[06:53] <lucasvo> what does this mean?
[06:53] <Seveas> lucasvo, NEVER paste in here
[06:53] <lucasvo> Seveas: 4 lines?
[06:54] <lucasvo> irssi wasn't even asking
[06:54] <victor_sierra> I had updates come in today, but Software Updates states the packages to be updated are "NOT AUTHENTICATED".  They're pretty important packages, sudo included .. is this a known issue?
[06:54] <Seveas> lucasvo, even 4 lines
[06:54] <thegladiator> any ide polpak which is the exact one ?there are 53 items
[06:54] <thegladiator> i am going through each now
[06:54] <lucasvo> anyway, what's wrong?
[06:54] <Seveas> clean up your sources.list :)
[06:55] <gnomefreak> why not its easy
[06:55] <victor_sierra> I don't mind editing it, but ..  I'm thinking this should work, with the "official" Ubuntu repositories and all
[06:56] <lucasvo> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ch.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages
[06:56] <lucasvo> this error is still there
[06:56] <lowman62> harrow woom
[06:56] <karlwrk> is there a default xmodmap file anywhere on breezy?
[06:56] <Seveas> lucasvo, delete all files (Not folders) from /var/lib/apt/lists
[06:57] <thegladiator> polpak, i installed a few extensions , now what ?
[06:57] <polpak> thegladiator, there are 53 addons, or just 53 different settings for tabbed browsing
[06:57] <thegladiator> yes i installed seeminly 2 that fits my bill
[06:57] <thegladiator> now how does it work ?
[06:57] <thegladiator> or how can I implement it ?
[06:58] <polpak> thegladiator, if you searched for 'tabbed browsing' it should have been the one saying 'Tabbed Browser Preferences' near the bottom of the first pave
[06:58] <polpak> thegladiator, page
[06:58] <ralliart4eva> hey
[06:58] <polpak> thegladiator, to access the options for a particular extension, you just restart firefox
[06:58] <ralliart4eva> i'm new to linux but can say i'm an expert on windows operating systems
[06:58] <thegladiator> polpak, yes thats what I installed
[06:58] <lowman62> that says enuff :P
[06:59] <polpak> thegladiator, then go to tools->extentions click the extension you want to change, then click the options button
[06:59] <ralliart4eva> what i want to do is install ubuntu on a sererate partition
[06:59] <polpak> thegladiator, though for 'tabbed browser preferences' this isn't the way to do it
[06:59] <thegladiator> polpak, then ?
[06:59] <polpak> thegladiator, cause it sets up a menu under edit->preferences
[06:59] <polpak> thegladiator, called 'tabbed browser preferences'
[06:59] <ralliart4eva> but when i'm in expert install i'm not seeing anywhere to direct the install and i don't want to overwrite my windows install
[07:00] <thegladiator> polpak, yep got it . thanks a lot
[07:00] <ralliart4eva> is there any step by step guide i can follow or can someone give me any help in this area
[07:00] <thegladiator> polpak, i feel that shoul be installed with ubuntu by default
[07:01] <polpak> thegladiator, there are a ton of firefox extentions
[07:01] <lowman62> ralliart4eva: here you will love this http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=
[07:01] <polpak> thegladiator, and some people prefer different options
[07:01] <thegladiator> polpak, correct
[07:02] <polpak> thegladiator, you should check out some of the other extensions there. Some of them are quite handy
[07:02] <rickard> !cedega
[07:02] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[07:02] <polpak> thegladiator, I like the 'Mouse Gestures' one
[07:02] <gnomefreak> there was an issue with the tabbed browser option at one time not sure if it was fixed yet
[07:02] <victor_sierra> I posted my sources.list onto the ubuntu pastebin service .. is there something wrong I'm missing?  There's only four active lines -- main, breezy-updates, breezy-backports, breezy-security
[07:02] <thegladiator> polpak, yes i am trying a few cool ones out there...
[07:02] <ralliart4eva> thanks alot lowman
[07:02] <lucasvo> E: Error occurred while processing libsm6-dbg (NewVersion1)
[07:02] <lucasvo> this is strange :(
[07:02] <lowman62> ralliart4eva: yw :)
[07:03] <victor_sierra> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6849
[07:03] <KoN> anyone else have problems with steam and wine 0.9.5?
[07:03] <gnomefreak> rickard,  if you want to keep knowing about cedega just type /msg ubotu cedega  and the bot will im you with the info
[07:03] <theine> Will there ever be a new Skype version for Linux?
[07:04] <loeppel> theine, is the current version very outdated?
[07:04] <theine> Oct 25, 2005
[07:04] <gnomefreak> theine, thats not outdated
[07:05] <finzsch> hi
[07:05] <theine> gnomefreak, considering the bugginess of this version, it is to my taste
[07:06] <lowman62> lucasvo: are you a programmer?
[07:06] <gnomefreak> theine,  i dont use skype and never will so i dont know too much about the bugs but i would say soonest for next verions would be marchish
[07:06] <lucasvo> lowman62: no
[07:06] <Sonderblade> since i added breezy backports to my repositories i have a big problem with automake generating bad Makefiles and im unable to compile anything
[07:06] <woodwizzle> Anyone in here know how to get usb mics to work under linux
[07:06] <Sonderblade> is it just me or has anyone else the same problem?
[07:06] <lowman62> lucasvo: then uninstall that...it is for useful debugging info
[07:06] <theine> gnomefreak, what do you base that prediction on?
[07:07] <lowman62> lucasvo: look here http://www.linuxia.de/packages/Debian/unstable/Source/xfree86
[07:07] <victor_sierra> Ahh.. I musta hit the server just in a freak time or something.  An apt-get update, it's working now .. so ya know.
[07:07] <gnomefreak> time intervals of past versions of other programs and seeing as i dont see it on skype normally people will announce project a few months in advanced
[07:07] <gnomefreak> give me a min il tell you when
[07:07] <rickard> I don't get how to download CVS repository for WineX.. it just shows lots of files but no download option
[07:09] <lowman62> point and click
[07:09] <lowman62> :P
[07:09] <loeppel> i think so too gnomefreak
[07:10] <greenpenguin13> rickard, use the command line version of cvs
[07:11] <rickard> greenpenguin13 - and how do I do that?
[07:12] <gimmulf> Hi, is Ubuntu Breezy 5.10 running smooth on an powermac?
[07:12] <gnomefreak> there is no announcements about next version of skype anywhere so atleast i would say 2 months
[07:12] <greenpenguin13> rickard, man cvs <-read through that :) ive not got the hang yet
[07:12] <loeppel> rickard, look at cvs --help oder man cvs - mostly on the webpage of the project the provide a sample line to log into their cvs repository
[07:13] <enkrav> Hello, I have very limited bandwidth: How can I download only security fixes?  (5.10)
[07:14] <Seveas> enkrav, the only updates to 5.10 ARE security updates
[07:14] <alphy> anybody know wherer I can get a good set of fonts for Linux?
[07:14] <gnomefreak> a new version of skype for win is out but linux isnt win so give it time (its free)
[07:14] <Sonderblade> alphy: install msttcorefonts
[07:15] <lucasvo> enkrav: you need to uncomment the lines with deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted
[07:15] <lucasvo> s/dapper/breezy/g
[07:15] <KoN> enkrav, and as long as you do not use backport repositories, you will only get security updates
[07:16] <loeppel> alphy, or look on any font page for nice fonts and then look them up with google like this: "nameofthefont filetype:ttf" so you get many direct-download results
[07:16] <thomas> hi all
[07:16] <luiz> jjghj
[07:16] <loeppel> hi thomas
[07:17] <thomas> i need help with my gcc and glut libaries, i thought, you can help me ;))
[07:17] <thomas> is this a german or english channel?
[07:17] <loeppel> english
[07:17] <oden1> howzit
[07:17] <loeppel> german look at: #ubuntu-de
[07:18] <oden1> after installation i get a grub error 17
[07:18] <thomas> okay thx
[07:18] <oden1> can some1 hepl me with that
[07:18] <ppd> hi. is it possible to get a list of supported resolutions in sane with just one command?
[07:19] <loeppel> oden1, oh thats bad, are you sure your grub was installed into the right "mbr"/partition?
[07:19] <oden1> no soz ;p
[07:19] <loeppel> hmm, is your linux partition no the first hdd?
[07:19] <oden1> yes
[07:20] <loeppel> hmm, and the question about installing grub into mbr you've answerd yes?
[07:20] <oden1> miss read that one :/ i have noidea about that one
[07:21] <trappist> grub couldn't throw an error if it wasn't installed on the mbr
[07:21] <Friar> Hi... How do i get an application/octet-stream file to run when I double click it in gnome?
[07:22] <oden1> ill try again ta trappist and loeppel
[07:23] <Hum> hi
[07:24] <Hum> i have problem
[07:24] <Hum> can u help me ?
[07:24] <lowman62> Hum: what is the prob?
[07:24] <laurane92> #quizzz
[07:25] <Hum> i use ubuntu 5.10 server install with desktop
[07:25] <laurane92> slt
[07:25] <Hum> and i can change resolution
[07:25] <Hum> * i can't
[07:25] <laurane92> slt
[07:25] <trappist> !tell hum about fixres
[07:26] <Friar> !octet-stream
[07:26] <ubotu> Friar: Wish i knew
[07:26] <laurane92> pkoi
[07:26] <laurane92> vs parlez bizar
[07:32] <Hum> i want to know minimum system requirement for ubuntu 5.10
[07:33] <ompaul> Hum, why not tell us what you have and we might be able to suggest a version or say Nope that won't work
[07:33] <Hum> ok
[07:34] <Hum> PII 350Mhz
[07:34] <Hum> 128mb ram
[07:34] <trappist> that's plenty
[07:34] <woodgrain> Hum,  I ran ubuntu on pII-450 w/ 178 ram.  worked fine
[07:34] <trappist> you won't be playing doom3 on it, and you might want a lightweight window manager
[07:35] <_skbera> Can anyone tell me how can I locate and remove the modem lock file.
[07:36] <tsw> 187Mb ram isnt much even after switching to xfce :/
[07:36] <_skbera> Can anyone tell me how can I locate and remove the modem lock file in Kubuntu Linux?
[07:36] <sas171> hi, how to unpack a password-encrypted ace archive?
[07:37] <jorgp> _skbera, it's it in /var/tmp or /var/ something, like ttyS0.lock or whatever your modem port is
[07:37] <lowman62> _skbera: do you have more than one modem?
[07:38] <_skbera> No I have just one modem connected at USB0 (/dev/ttyACM0)
[07:38] <lowman62> _skbera: okay one moment..seaching for you
[07:39] <jorgp> then it would be ttyACM0.lock
[07:39] <_skbera> My problem is when I connect to internet using my dial up connection, sometimes i gets disconnected automatically and I have to restart my kubuntu system to reconnect. Is there a way to reconnect without restarting?
[07:39] <ompaul> _skbera, to build a locate database you can run >>sudo updatedb<<
[07:40] <_skbera> I can't kill the pppd process even with root permission.
[07:40] <mika0800> "a lightweight window manager" - try IceWm ...
[07:40] <CosmoDad> _skbera: maybe your driver is buggy and reloading it helps..
[07:41] <ompaul> _skbera, >>sudo  /etc/init.d/ppp(d) stop <<might help
[07:41] <lowman62> _skbera: # sudo internet --connect=<connection-name>
[07:41] <lowman62>  then #password:*******
[07:42] <ITRO> alguien habla  espaol??
[07:42] <ompaul> !es
[07:42] <damg> does anyone know how to start a second X instance on a different tty (e.g. on tty8) while standard one is already running on e.g. tty7?
[07:42] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:42] <CosmoDad> lowman62: what package contains that "internet" binary?
[07:42] <CosmoDad> lowman62: never saw that before..
[07:42] <_skbera> lowman62: My problem is when I connect to internet using my dial up connection, sometimes i gets disconnected automatically and I have to restart my kubuntu system to reconnect. Is there a way to reconnect without restarting?
[07:42] <ITRO> gracia el problema es que nadie ayuda y no contestan .
[07:43] <ITRO> gracias
[07:43] <butcherbird> _skbera: might try 'kill -9 whatever' in the future
[07:43] <ompaul> damg, you can lock the existing session and then open a new one with >> system lock-screen<<
[07:43] <lowman62> CosmoDad: am not sure just looked it up and apparently it is installed by default unless other connection type is present in kubuntu
[07:43] <SirKillalot> how do I search for a string in many files?
[07:43] <ompaul> ITRO,  >> /join #ubuntu-es<<
[07:43] <kemik> SirKillalot:  grep
[07:43] <lowman62> <--I use a T1
[07:43] <damg> ompaul, isn't it possible to run two concurrent sessions?
[07:44] <CosmoDad> lowman62: I don't have it installed...
[07:44] <kemik> SirKillalot:  cat filename | grep string    ... or just use grep like "grep files string"
[07:44] <kemik> (or was is string files..)
[07:44] <kevinz> weird, I install eclipse by manually downloading it from eclipse.org and the version works swiftly and smoothly.. frankly i would say it is better than the one got from apt-get
[07:44] <CosmoDad> lowman62: oh wait, you made a restriction
[07:44] <lowman62> CosmoDad: do you use dialup?
[07:44] <CosmoDad> lowman62: nope I don't, that's probably it
[07:44] <lowman62> yes sudo
[07:44] <damg> ompaul, since I have a clanwar in several settings and the quakeengine doesn't release the mouse to lock the screen :/
[07:44] <kemik> kevinz:  apt-get works too, just remove the gcj packages
[07:44] <woodwizzle> does the ubuntu kernel have  USB rate limiting detection turned off
[07:44] <damg> settings->minutes
[07:44] <lowman62> there ya go ;)
[07:44] <CosmoDad> lowman62: concerning the "unless ..." part I meant
[07:44] <kemik> kevinz:  and install the SUN java
[07:45] <ompaul> damg, you can but you have to log in and switch between the users a bit like ctrl + alt + F1-6 however if it is just a real estate thing then down the bottom of the screen you have the option of running 4 virtual desktops in the existing session
[07:45] <lowman62> CosmoDad: ya I understood ;)
[07:45] <CosmoDad> lowman62: :)
[07:45] <ompaul> damg, in other words yes but I don't know how :)
[07:45] <kevinz> kemik: oh, i will try... why apt-get version of eclipse is small. it seems to require 5x mb only
[07:45] <damg> ompaul, ok, thanks ;)
[07:46] <lowman62> _skbera: I would create an alias for that so you don't have to keep typing that in all the time LOL :P
[07:47] <kevinz> kemik: i don't have gcj installed but gij. it seems that eclipse-base package requires gij
[07:47] <lowman62> _skbera: sudo internet --clearcurr  <--you can use that to disconnect
[07:47] <zool2005> can I enqueue songs in xmms?
[07:47] <kemik> kevinz:  i dont remember the exact steps i did, but it was something along the lines of removing the default Java-packages and then i installed SUN java
[07:47] <lowman62> enqueue??
[07:47] <ompaul> zool2005, is that queue ?
[07:48] <kemik> !tell kevinz about java
[07:48] <rickard> Havn't those guys making Linux heard of something called exe files.. They are great, just double click and the program/game will get installed.. It's truly amazing.. Windows have had it for years!
[07:48] <_skbera> lowman62: Thankyou very much for your kind help....
[07:48] <kemik> kevinz:  and then i apt-get'ed eclipse :)
[07:48] <Seveas> rickard, and it's been a broken concept since the beginning...
[07:48] <cello_rasp> rickard they are called packages nub
[07:48] <lowman62> _skbera: you are very welcome :)
[07:48] <kemik> kevinz:  choosing not to install the suggested eclipse-gcj etc
[07:48] <ompaul> rickard, if that is what you want #windows is the last channel on the left hand side of the server
[07:48] <zool2005> ompaul, I remember in RedHat I could use the context menu to queue songs in  xmms, is it possible with Ubuntu?
[07:49] <Seveas> rickard, Ubuntu packages adhere to certain standards, to make sure your system does not break
[07:49] <kemik> kevinz:  see !javadebs for Sun java in .deb format
[07:49] <Seveas> rickard, if you prefere a broken system, follow ompauls advice
[07:49] <kevinz> kemik: oh. thank you :) btw do you install firefox manually?
[07:49] <zool2005> ompaul, I was wondering if there was a plugin, I've searched my repositories but no luck
[07:49] <ompaul> zool2005, click on pl for play list and right click in there - you can be very creative :)
[07:49] <cello_rasp> "help i just installed warcraft and my sound card doesnt work anymore"
[07:49] <butcherbird> rickard: but then youll never learn anything unless u break your system.. :)
[07:49] <rickard> My windows system didn't break, I got a little blue cute screen a little now and than but nothing a format c: couldn't handlle...
[07:49] <kemik> kevinz:  i've installed firefox from the repositories (not using ff 1.5)
[07:50] <Seveas> rickard, ROFL, and you call THAT didn't break?!?
[07:50] <lowman62> butcherbird: LOL ya that is soooo true...:P
[07:50] <kemik> sure rickard is trolling
[07:50] <kemik> :)
[07:50] <kemik> surely
[07:50] <Seveas> yeah
[07:50] <cello_rasp> rickard reformatting on every problem doesnt make for a stable system :))
[07:50] <Seveas> time to end it
[07:50] <ompaul> rickard, byee
[07:50] <cello_rasp> lol
[07:50] <zool2005> ompaul, cheers
[07:50] <ompaul> zool2005, I am here :-)
[07:50] <rickard> Atleast I didn't have to use cryptic bacl woodo magic to get my programs working
[07:50] <turix> my X doesnt start at startup
[07:51] <turix> anyone can help me with that?
[07:51] <Seveas> hmm
[07:51] <sorush20> guys should I set the i/o support for my dvdrw drive to 32 bit with hdparm?
[07:51] <ompaul> turix, what kind of machine, and what kind of video card is it?
[07:51] <lowman62> rickard: problem is you don't know woodoo magick to make installs :P
[07:51] <Seveas> sorush20, sounds logical :)
[07:51] <SirKillalot> how can I see how much free space a drive has in console?
[07:51] <Seveas> SirKillalot, df -h
[07:52] <Seveas> (DiskFree -HumanReadableOutput)
[07:52] <turix> ompaul, its a P4 and a Nvidia geforce4 mmx
[07:52] <ompaul> turix, I have a one size fits all solution that works sometimes ->>sudo dpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<
[07:52] <Seveas> eeeeeeeeep pygi is back
[07:52] <sorush20> Seveas: should i set it to on?
[07:53] <Pygi> Seveas: and that's why you left :P Cause I am back :P I didn't knew I bother you that much :P
[07:53] <turix> "sudo: dpg-reconfigure: command not found"
[07:53] <Pygi> dpkg-reconfigure
[07:53] <St-> gh
[07:54] <woodgrain> how do I toggle desktops w/ keys?
[07:54] <ompaul> turix, sorry >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<
[07:55] <sorush20> how do I find out if my hdd supports i/o 32bit?
[07:56] <drcurl> Hi, just installed breezy, is it normal that the research I make in synaptic take very long time to complete and take uge amount of ressource
[07:56] <Pygi> Seveas: ping?
[07:56] <Seveas> pong
[07:57] <ompaul> drcurl, when it starts up first it has to get a couple of megs of material are you on dialup or dsl?
[07:57] <Pygi> Seveas: you left cause I came back :P
[07:57] <Seveas> :)
[07:57] <mark__> Does anyone know of a website that will make repositories for you?
[07:57] <drcurl> ompaul, t1
[07:57] <woodgrain> !toggle desktops
[07:57] <ubotu> Not a clue, woodgrain
[07:57] <mark__> lists, I mean..
[07:57] <Krishnautix> hey anyone tried installing GNOME Art
[07:57] <Pygi> Seveas: I knew I was botherin' you , but didn't knew I bother you that much :P
[07:57] <ompaul> drcurl, that means nothing to me what is that 56k or something?
[07:57] <Krishnautix> ! toggle desktops
[07:57] <ubotu> Krishnautix: I don't know
[07:57] <drcurl> ompaul, it is lan connection, high speed
[07:58] <butcherbird> woodgrain: do you mean alt-ctrl-arrowbttn or alt-ctrl-f2 etc?
[07:58] !lilo:*! Hi all. Macworld Expo SF channel: ##macworld
[07:58] <drcurl> synaptic use 50% cpu!
[07:58] <ompaul> drcurl, on how big a machine?
[07:58] <drcurl> ompaul, centrino 1.4GhZ, 256 ram
[07:59] <pflanze> Hello. For some reason, the ubuntu ppc live CD hangs after starting X. The kernel works fine (I can move the mouse pointer), but nothing happens anymore.
[08:00] <woodgrain> butcherbird, no to go from one gnome desktop to another.
[08:00] <ompaul> drcurl, it seems to me it is making too much of a load, any chance you could paste the output of /etc/apt/sources.list into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:01] <drcurl> ompaul, just a sec
[08:01] <woodgrain> butcherbird, actually, meta-ctrl-arrows works.  But is there a on-keyboard version of this?
[08:01] <woodgrain> woodgrain, using arrows is against my religion
[08:01] <butcherbird> woodgrain: sorry dunno dont use gnome very much lately
[08:01] <woodgrain> butcherbird,  you up in that kDe?
[08:02] <malefestra> gnome == system hog.
[08:02] <butcherbird> woodgrain: xfce mostly
[08:03] <drcurl> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6850
[08:03] <woodgrain> butcherbird, xfce -- is that okay with ubuntu?
[08:03] <Pygi> ubotu tell woodgrain about xubuntu
[08:03] <ompaul> drcurl, looking at it give me a min
[08:03] <drcurl> ok, thanks ompaul
[08:03] <drcurl> I just enable universe
[08:03] <lowman62> Ctrl+Alt left or right arrow moves through desktops
[08:03] <butcherbird> woodgrain: im liking it.
[08:04] <Pygi> lowman: but not too fast :P
[08:04] <lowman62> :P
[08:04] <Pygi> yw
[08:04] <lowman62> does on mine..fly's
[08:04] <woodgrain> butcherbird, do you reinstall ubuntu for this or can you just synaptic it?
[08:04] <Pygi> lowman: well, I just did it, and X server froze :P
[08:04] <Pygi> woodgrain: just use synaptic
[08:04] <drcurl> ompaul, I closed synaptic and re-opened it, it seems better now
[08:05] <lowman62> Pygi: ouch
[08:05] <drcurl> but openoffice, on the other hand, takes forever to load
[08:05] <Pygi> lowman: I guess the cause behind it is Xorg 7 :/
[08:05] <butcherbird> woodgrain: no reinstall just apt-get u can switch between them
[08:05] <Pygi> lowman: I'll install Y server :P
[08:05] <lowman62> Pygi: :P
[08:05] <Pygi> lowman: ever tried Y server? :P
[08:06] <lowman62> Pygi: no never
[08:06] <lowman62> Pygi: ave never heard of it
[08:06] <Pygi> lowman: well, then better don't try it :P At least for now :)
[08:06] <Evodawg> any Mplayer folks in here?
[08:06] <ompaul> drcurl, just a moment there are some things in there that you might consider changing
[08:06] <ompaul> Seveas, msg?
[08:06] <lowman62> *feels something pulling his leg*
[08:06] <_jason> Evodawg, yes, you can ask a question and we can try to help you
[08:06] <ompaul> drcurl, before you do you should back that file up
[08:07] <drcurl> ompaul, ok
[08:07] <Evodawg> _jason:  Im getting slow video on playback
[08:07] <Evodawg> and jitter
[08:07] <_jason> Evodawg, playback of what
[08:07] <lowman62> Evodawg: enable dma
[08:07] <levander> Is xfce supposed to be lighter weight than gnome?
[08:07] <Evodawg> I did
[08:07] <Evodawg> dvd
[08:07] <ompaul> levander, it is
[08:08] <malefestra> levander - yes
[08:08] <Pygi> levander: yup
[08:08] <levander> when does xubuntu come out?  is that with dapper?
[08:08] <Pygi> levander: blackbox is more lighter :)
[08:08] <Pygi> levander: xubuntu is already out...
[08:08] <sorush20> is unmakirq a good idea ?
[08:08] <Pygi> it just doesn't have a ISO
[08:08] <ompaul> drcurl, if I was you I would remove the reference to the cdrom at the top of the file - open up the two universe sec repos on the bottom
[08:08] <drcurl> ompaul, ok, for security :)
[08:09] <ompaul> yeap
[08:09] <Evodawg> wondering If I should have compiled the mplayer stuff instead of using urpmi
[08:09] <malefestra> evodawg - what kind of machine?
[08:09] <ompaul> they will give you updates if they become available for the universe repos
[08:09] <levander> Pygi: only reason i'm interested in xfce is because it sounds like a lot of configuration work has already been accomplished with ubuntu, haven't heard the same thing about blackbox
[08:09] <mark__> !easysource
[08:09] <Evodawg> man 2006
[08:09] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:09] <_jason> Evodawg, what is urpmi?
[08:09] <Pygi> levander: well, true :P but blackbox is the lightest wm ever :P or is it?
[08:10] <Pygi> you can just use WM, no need for desktop manager :P
[08:10] <malefestra> Pygi - still waiting for e17...
[08:10] <levander> Pygi: you know how far along the xubuntu-desktop package is?  just wondering how mature that package is
[08:10] <Evodawg> _jason: its a rpm source
[08:10] <drcurl> ompaul, thanks, is it normal that openoffice is very slow startup?
[08:10] <Pygi> malefestra: ah, well...
[08:10] <malefestra> heh :)
[08:10] <Pygi> levander: well, it is mature for daily use
[08:10] <ompaul> drcurl, other things are you lack multiverse if you are true gnu you don't want them but if you do you should put it on the end of *only the first* line of universe half way up the file
[08:10] <Evodawg> its kinda like cvs
[08:10] <lowman62> Evodawg: run this if it exists... /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[08:10] <_jason> Evodawg, why aren't you using the mplayer package in the repositories?
[08:10] <levander> Pygi: you know how mature compared to kubuntu-desktop?
[08:11] <Evodawg> urpmi is easier
[08:11] <zim> hi all
[08:11] <Pygi> levander: well, considering it's less maintained, it's not that mature...but everything works...
[08:11] <zim> how can i change the color scheme in vim ?
[08:11] <lowman62> Evodawg: that sped mine up
[08:11] <lowman62> ;P
[08:11] <ompaul> drcurl, with those hardware specs yes, in fact it could be said that it is a dog at starting up but not bad at all once opened I have been editing a single doc here for the last few hours on and off as I review and recreate it and no issue and my box is of similar power to yours
[08:12] <Seveas> zim, :colorscheme blue
[08:12] <Seveas> (or any other scheme)
[08:12] <Pygi> or rainbow scheme :P
[08:12] <Evodawg> lowman62:  no such file or directory
[08:12] <ompaul> Seveas, question >>> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse << that would not work for multiverse am I correct in that
[08:12] <zim> ty
[08:12] <drcurl> ompaul, ok, thank you again :)
[08:13] <lowman62> I believe that came with gxine
[08:13] <malefestra> Evodawg - did you install libdvdread3?
[08:13] <Evodawg> thought I did
[08:13] <Seveas> ompaul, you're not
[08:13] <Pygi> !info libdvdread3
[08:13] <Evodawg> hold on will now
[08:13] <ubotu> libdvdread3: (Simple foundation for reading DVDs), section libs, is optional. Version: 0.9.4-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 52 kB, Installed size: 176 kB
[08:13] <ompaul> drcurl, when the edit is finished on the command line run this >> sudo apt-get update<<
[08:13] <stevr1it> hi some problem with gaim
[08:13] <Pygi> o, well, don't use gaim :))))
[08:14] <stevr1it> i was trying to send a file with it but i crashed
[08:14] <ompaul> Seveas, ahh I did not know that
[08:14] <max_c> I need to make it so I can write to my shared fat32 partition in Ubuntu. Can anyone tell me how to do this?
[08:14] <stevr1it> and now i cannot open it, can you help me?
[08:14] <Pygi> considering that gaim is bad, not a problem :))
[08:14] <stevr1it> i was reinstalling it
[08:14] <Seveas> stevr1it, run 'gaim' in the terminal
[08:14] <Pygi> joking :P reconfigure it
[08:14] <AIV> I want to install a demo version of an app, it comes as an RPM
[08:14] <ompaul> Seveas, or to rephrase it - I do now :)
[08:14] <Seveas> what does that do>
[08:14] <Seveas> ?
[08:14] <mark__> can anyone tell me where the sources list is stored?
[08:14] <stevr1it> could you telll me how
[08:14] <Seveas> mark__, /etc/apt/
[08:14] <_jason> stevr1it, ps aux | grep gaim
[08:14] <Pygi> /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:14] <AIV> where can I find ubuntu specific docs on how to do this
[08:14] <mark__> thx
[08:14] <malefestra> max_c what happens when you try to write to it?
[08:15] <Seveas> AIV, rpm's are bad, but you could try alien -i filename.rpm
[08:15] <Evodawg> malefestra:  shows it's already installed
[08:15] <turix> hmm X still wont start at startup
[08:15] <turix> seriously what's up with that? :p
[08:15] <Pygi> huh, not the RPM :/
[08:15] <Pygi> turix: what's the issue?
[08:15] <AIV> Seveas, why are rpm's bad?
[08:15] <stevr1it> here si the answer:  ps aux | grep gaim
[08:15] <LoPMX84> am i wrong or dapper's X server is much faster using xcompmgr?
[08:15] <AIV> Seveas, am I better off getting it as a tar?
[08:15] <max_c> malefestra: it says I do not have permission to write to the folder
[08:15] <Pygi> cause they are the cause of most dependency hells :P
[08:15] <stevr1it> sorry wait
[08:15] <sk8erboy> i cant get online using my wireless network card , ican connect to the router login but i cant get web pages up
[08:15] <stevr1it> here it is: root      8180  0.0  0.1   3092   804 pts/1    R+   20:15   0:00 grep gaim
[08:16] <stevr1it> any idea?
[08:16] <malefestra> Evodawg - interesting... but no sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh?
[08:16] <Seveas> stevr1it, why are you running gaim as root ?!?!
[08:16] <_jason> stevr1it, try what Seveas suggested.  Type 'gaim' in a terminal and see what happens
[08:16] <Evodawg> let me do a whereis
[08:16] <Seveas> ah nvm, that was grep :)
[08:16] <stevr1it> ok
[08:16] <Pygi> Seveas: lol :P
[08:16] <Seveas> stevr1it, why are you running that as root?
[08:16] <athlon> j #firefox
[08:16] <turix> and everytime i try to open "add applications" and the "package manager" i get "Failed to run /usr/bin/gnome-app-install as user root:
[08:16] <turix>  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file."
[08:16] <athlon> oops
[08:16] <stevr1it> i was runnin it form ubuntu normallyu
[08:17] <malefestra> max_c: it's a permissions issue...try reading this: http://catcode.com/teachmod/
[08:17] <turix> what's with that?
[08:17] <Pygi> ubotu, tell turix about root
[08:17] <stevr1it> sorry  i was running. where do i find a terminal?
[08:17] <Pygi> ubotu, tell turix about kdesu
[08:17] <Pygi> ubotu, tell turix about gksudo
[08:17] <stevr1it> i am quite a beginner
[08:17] <_jason> stevr1it, accessories
[08:17] <C-O-L-T> hello does exist a program for linux which can modify pdf files?
[08:17] <Pygi> in applications, accesories
[08:17] <malefestra> if you can't figure it out, give me a /msg and let me know. :)  i'll help you more.
[08:17] <monzie> hi all
[08:17] <Seveas> C-O-L-T, yes, but no equivalent to adobe acrobat
[08:18] <max_c> malefestra: I've tried chmod on the folders already but I still couldn't wriet to it. I was wondering if I have to do something with fdisk
[08:18] <C-O-L-T> Seveas: I just need to modify a pdf file and print it
[08:18] <turix> Pygi, what shall i do then?
[08:18] <stevr1it> nothing appears
[08:18] <C-O-L-T> Seveas: a formular
[08:18] <Evodawg> malefestra:  you takin to me
[08:18] <malefestra> Evo - yes
[08:18] <Pygi> turix: ubotu told u
[08:18] <malefestra> well, not the last line or two
[08:18] <malefestra> ;)
[08:18] <sk8erboy> can someone help
[08:18] <woodgrain> How can I merge two text files (one after the other) on the command line?
[08:19] <stevr1it> in the terminal nothis appears after :  ps aux | grep gaim
[08:19] <Evodawg> malefestra:  let me go do some rootin around and I'll get back
[08:19] <C-O-L-T> Seveas:???????
[08:19] <stevr1it> it still does not works
[08:19] <malefestra> Evo - alright
[08:19] <Seveas> woodgrain, cat file1 file2 > file3
[08:19] <Pygi> C-O-L-T: he's lost :P
[08:20] <stevr1it> it appears the page with the aDRESS BUT BLOKED
[08:20] <stevr1it> in the terminal no result at all
[08:20] <woodgrain> Seveas, thx so much!
[08:20] <stevr1it> where shoul i look?
[08:20] <stevr1it> should?
[08:20] <malefestra> Evodawg - alright, it's kinda weird that you don't have that script
[08:20] <lowman62> very wierd
[08:20] <C-O-L-T> Pygi: does exist a program for linux that allows me to modify pdf file?
[08:21] <stevr1it> jason any suggestion?
[08:21] <_jason> stevr1it, did 'gaim' tell you anything?
[08:21] <stevr1it> nothing
[08:21] <turix> Pygi, how should i for example open the package manager?
[08:21] <malefestra> max_c is the partition mounted?
[08:21] <sethk> woodgrain, it helps to remember what the command names mean.  you want to concatenate files, so you use the concatenate command which is cat
[08:22] <Pygi> turix: use "gksudo synaptic"
[08:22] <max_c> malefestra, Yes. I can read files from it.
[08:22] <ubuntu> hjhj
[08:22] <stevr1it> it opens an start to enter and it stops, appears some adresses and after a white page
[08:22] <turix> Pygi,  but isn't there anyway i can fix this thing?
[08:22] <ubuntu> fix what
[08:23] <turix> still going thru System>>Administration>>synaptic...
[08:23] <stevr1it> i have 3 commections: msn, messenger and icq on it
[08:23] <LuckyLuke> re all. I wanted to know, if I install from the official ubuntu iso doing a 'server' install and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, do I obtain the same thing as installing from the kubuntu-desktop?
[08:23] <LuckyLuke> from the kubuntu cd, I meant.
[08:23] <Pygi> turix: well, use "apt-get"
[08:23] <stevr1it> is there anythig else i can do?
[08:23] <ubuntu> yes
[08:23] <Evodawg> malefestra:  I have the file /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3-0.9.4 but no examples/install-css.sh
[08:23] <LuckyLuke> ubuntu: was that 'yes' for me? :)
[08:23] <sethk> LuckyLuke, no.  if you do the regular (not server) install, then yes
[08:23] <malefestra> Evodawg - did you get libdvdread3 by sudo apt-get install libdvdread3?  or from elsewhere?
[08:24] <sethk> LuckyLuke, but if you want a desktop, you don't do the server install.
[08:24] <Pygi> Colt: you could openoffice to import pdf file....
[08:24] <sethk> LuckyLuke, I realize you are trying to short circuit gnome, but that's not the way to do it
[08:24] <LuckyLuke> sethk: if I do the regular I get lots of gnome stuff I would prefer to leave out
[08:24] <sethk> LuckyLuke, yes, but unfortunately you also get a bunch of stuff that you need.
[08:24] <LuckyLuke> ok thanks for the info
[08:24] <Evodawg> malefestra:  got it thru a urpmi source
[08:24] <stevr1it> jason any sugegstion? it sees corrupted but i have reinsatlled it already
[08:24] <sethk> LuckyLuke, you have the kubuntu cd built to do exactly what you want, so why not use it?
[08:24] <LuckyLuke> I was just trying to go on without downloading another iso :D
[08:25] <turix> but seriously the one thing i want to get rid of is "Failed to run /usr/bin/gnome-app-install as user root:
[08:25] <turix>  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file."
[08:25] <malefestra> max_c: sudo chmod a+rxw
[08:25] <turix> how to get rid of that error message?
[08:25] <XTR> Hi. I have an Ubuntu Live CD loaded, and I installed sshd. What username/password do I use to ssh to the machine?
[08:25] <LuckyLuke> and we have lots of this oh-so-cool "original" ubuntu CDs at our lug, we give them to people, but people often asks us for kde...
[08:25] <malefestra> Evodawg - try getting it with apt-get, that might be your problem.
[08:25] <Pygi> LuckyLuke: well, kubuntu will ship with dapper....
[08:25] <Evodawg> malefestra:  I will thanks
[08:25] <Pygi> in ship-it
[08:26] <LuckyLuke> Pygi: that's cool, many thanks for the info
[08:26] <stevr1it> sorry: i have tried from the terminal and the reuslt: stefano   8470  0.0  0.1   3096   796 pts/1    R+   20:25   0:00 grep gaim
[08:26] <Pygi> LuckyLuke: yw
[08:26] <stevr1it> jason?
[08:26] <stevr1it> any suggestion?
[08:26] <Pygi> !patience
[08:26] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[08:26] <Pygi> thank you
[08:26] <stevr1it> ok
[08:26] <cello_rasp> how do i install perl modules?
[08:26] <stevr1it> sorry
[08:27] <_null> Why cant I write to a remote folder (Gnome VFS) with gedit?
[08:27] <Pygi> dieffel: please remove public away messages
[08:27] <Pygi> thank you
[08:27] <captainredbeard> is there any kind of remove control I could get for my pc, to use to control music/video playback?
[08:27] <SteveA> hello.  would someone tell me what irc channel the community council meets on?  it isn't on the wiki page  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda  nor http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/council
[08:28] <Pygi> #ubuntu-meeting
[08:28] <ompaul> dieffel, please don't do that there are 651 people here, if they all did that what would it be like
[08:28] <rocketman327> I'm trying to use xconfig (or even menuconfig) but I can't install libncurses-dev or libqt4-dev
[08:28] <SteveA> thanks Pygi
[08:28] <Pygi> yw
[08:28] <malefestra> heh, didn't realize how many people were here.  crazy.
[08:28] <MrPockets> if i have a program,but i dont know where it is, say Xine, is there a command that will run it ?
[08:28] <MrPockets> nevermind
[08:28] <Pygi> well, guess what is it :) run "xine" :)
[08:28] <LuckyLuke> MrPockets: dpkg -l xine | grep bin could help
[08:28] <lowman62> xine
[08:28] <MrPockets> nope,  it was just "xine"
[08:29] <Pygi> well I told you to run just "xine" lol :P
[08:29] <LuckyLuke> or something like that...
[08:29] <_jason> LuckyLuke,  capital L right?
[08:29] <lowman62> and in console ... xine & <--to seperate it from the console
[08:29] <MrPockets> thank you Pygi
[08:29] <LuckyLuke> _jason: probably. It's a lot of time I don't use dpkg anymore...
[08:29] <rocketman327> so anyone got any idea why I can't install libncurses-dev or libqt4-dev
[08:29] <Pygi> yw
[08:29] <stevr1it> Jason don't forget about me. i wait if you can help me
[08:29] <hannya> alguien habla espaol
[08:29] <Pygi> rocketman: any error?
[08:30] <Pygi> hannya: #ubuntu-es
[08:30] <hannya> ok
[08:30] <Pygi> please talk english here
[08:30] <Pygi> thanks
[08:30] <Pygi> Seveas: that's your job, isn't it? :P
[08:30] <rocketman327> Pygi: well libqt2-dev says there are lots of depends that aren't installable and the other one says it doesn't exist
[08:31] <Pygi> rocketman: wha ubuntu? breezy?
[08:31] <Pygi> and why would you want devel files for qt2? there is already qt4 you know :P
[08:31] <rocketman327> Pygi: yea, I just moved from gentoo and i'm trying ubuntu breezy on my lappie
[08:31] <malefestra> max_c - is it working?
[08:31] <thegladiator> s_spiff, your name is krishna ?,
[08:31] <Pygi> afk
[08:31] <rocketman327> Pygi: sorry, that was a typo, its 4
[08:31] <stevr1it> anyone has experience in gaim crash?
[08:32] <s_spiff> no re
[08:32] <malefestra> no stevr
[08:32] <s_spiff>  I go to the ISKCON temple here ..
[08:32] <s_spiff>  there there is the alblum by TKJ [ rock dude ] ...name Krishnautix
[08:32] <stevr1it> any substitute of gaim working with ubuntu?
[08:32] <s_spiff>  I liked the name
[08:32] <LuckyLuke> Pygi: while I download kubuntu iso, I would like to better understand this. Differences between (gnome) ubuntu and (kde) kubuntu are only in the default set of installed packages? if it is so, isn't there a catch-all-with-deps empty package to get a full kubuntu installed on any kind of running ubuntu? (maybe with other stuff in there, like gnome+kde when you install kubuntu-desktop on a plain ubuntu)
[08:33] <lowman62> stevrlit : I think kopete
[08:33] <s_spiff> stevr1it, I wud suggest download aMSN... and Yahoo Messenger
[08:33] <rocketman327> Pygi: I'm really just trying to compile my own kernel...
[08:33] <stevr1it> but for icq?
[08:33] <s_spiff>  kopete doesn't as such work with gnome...unless u download some other files with it
[08:33] <s_spiff>  for icq..there are various messengeres
[08:33] <lowman62> stevrlit: licq
[08:33] <LuckyLuke> stevr1it: I use kopete and it's really good, but gaim is ok also. I just choose gaim for gnome and kopete for kde
[08:33] <stevr1it> it does not work
[08:33] <s_spiff>  go to Synaptic ..and search for ICQ
[08:33] <LuckyLuke> stevr1it: both gaim and kopete do icq
[08:33] <s_spiff>  take your pick
[08:34] <stevr1it> kopete? i try
[08:34] <s_spiff> stevr1it, try, but first i would reccoment to search Synaptic for ICQ, you'll have a lot of options
[08:34] <LuckyLuke> I use AIM, ICQ and MSN on both kopete and gaim, they both work great!
[08:34] <stevr1it> gmail doen't work anymore here
[08:34] <max_c> malefestra: no, "chmod: too few arguments"
[08:34] <s_spiff>  gmail doesnt work as in?
[08:34] <MrPockets> how can i download the DVD decorders for Xine to play Avi or DVDs?
[08:35] <s_spiff>  MrPockets please open the help file..
[08:35] <s_spiff>  and read Starter Guide>Installation
[08:35] <LuckyLuke> MrPockets: they are probably available as xine-something
[08:35] <s_spiff>  or read on wiki..
[08:35] <l-bigboss> MrPockets> ubuntuguide.org
[08:35] <_null> Does anyone know a gedit 2.13 package for breezy?
[08:36] <stevr1it> i am downloading kopete
[08:36] <malefestra> max_c: where is it mounted at?
[08:36] <lowman62> it comes with gedit
[08:36] <stevr1it> but i wonder what has happened
[08:36] <stevr1it> how can i know it?
[08:36] <rocketman327> I'm really starting to find gentoo easier when I want to do anything besides having a basic working computer... I get no errors, just
[08:36] <rocketman327> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:36] <rocketman327>   libqt4-dev: Depends: xlibs-dev (>= 4.2.1) but it is not installable
[08:36] <max_c> malefestra: /media/hda2
[08:36] <Evodawg> stevr1it:  gaim is better
[08:36] <s_spiff>  MrPockets , check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28Media%29%7C%28Formats%29
[08:36] <Doido> E aew blz
[08:36] <rocketman327> and it won't tell me why its not installable... just that it isn't
[08:36] <stevr1it> but it chrash
[08:36] <stevr1it> crash
[08:37] <stevr1it> i cannot open it anymore
[08:37] <malefestra> max_c: sudo chmod a+rxw /media/hda2
[08:37] <lowman62> kopete
[08:37] <Doido> alguem aque fala brasileiro
[08:37] <stevr1it> evodaw any suggestion on how to have it working again?
[08:37] <rocketman327> stevr1it: try reinstalling it?  or does it open on a different user?
[08:37] <s_spiff> stevr1it, what crashed?
[08:37] <stevr1it> i dit it already
[08:37] <stevr1it> gaim
[08:37] <Evodawg> stevr1it:  I use gaim so no I wounldnt
[08:37] <s_spiff> ohh ok.
[08:38] <rocketman327> stevr1it: did what already?
[08:38] <stevr1it> i have tryed to send a file and after that i caould not open it anymore
[08:38] <stevr1it> reinstall it
[08:38] <stevr1it> i di reinstall it already
[08:38] <rocketman327> stevr1it: did you try it with a different user?
[08:38] <stevr1it> how?
[08:38] <stevr1it> i don't know how
[08:38] <malefestra> Evodawg - sudo apt-get work?
[08:39] <Evodawg> malefestra:   I dont have apt-get
[08:39] <stevr1it> when i open it with ubuntu it goes already o the previous users?
[08:39] <Evodawg> so I'm looking at the mplayer site
[08:39] <kameron> Evodawg, sudo apt-get install apt-get :P
[08:39] <rocketman327> stevr1it: well your user data could've been corrupted... if you don't have a multi user system you could delete the .gaim folder and see if gaim runs and reinitializes itself
[08:39] <lowman62> LOL
[08:39] <lounis> Hi, is there ndiswrapper in ubuntu live-cd?
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[08:40] <stevr1it> where i can fint the folder?
[08:40] <rocketman327> in your home directory
[08:40] <stevr1it> unser......
[08:40] <malefestra> kameron - heh
[08:40] <stevr1it> under ...which folder
[08:40] <rocketman327> like mine is under   "/home/jbbowen/.gaim"
[08:40] <lowman62> stevrlit: cd .gaim
[08:41] <malefestra> max_c: how hangs it?
[08:41] <freak_> do you set the startup programs the same in ubuntu 5.10 as in Debian 3.1?
[08:41] <stevr1it> what cd .gaim?
[08:41] <lowman62> obouy
[08:41] <rocketman327> ok so no one can tell my why ubuntu doesn't want to install libqt4-dev?
[08:41] <LoPMX> how can i install thunderbird 1.5 rc on ubuntu?
[08:41] <rocketman327> stevr1it: whats your main user?
[08:42] <max_c> Malefestra: No go. It seems to run the command but doesn't change my permissions when I look the properties of the drive.
[08:42] <_jason> stevr1it, just do 'mv ~/.gaim ~/.gaim.backup' and try opening gaim
[08:42] <s_spiff> LoPMX, check out on wiki
[08:42] <thegladiator> whats the package name for kde developer tools?
[08:42] <s_spiff>  there should be something about thunderbird installation
[08:42] <malefestra> interesting
[08:42] <stevr1it> i was using gaim with msn messenger and icq
[08:42] <freak_> LoPMX, check synaptics
[08:42] <rocketman327> _jason: thanks.  thats what I should've said
[08:42] <s_spiff> thegladiator, search on synaptic
[08:42] <coz> anyone here ever try the application "synfig"?
[08:42] <s_spiff> freak_, synaptic doesn't offer RC packages
[08:42] <malefestra> max_c: do ls -lg | grep hda2
[08:42] <malefestra> tell me what it spits out
[08:42] <s_spiff>  coz whats 'synfig'?
[08:43] <coz> s_spiff film quality animation app
[08:43] <Madeye> guys, is there any tutorial for creating local repos ?
[08:43] <freak_> s_spiff, RC packages?
[08:43] <thegladiator> s_spiff, for kdevelop - i see kdevelop 3?
[08:43] <thegladiator> but is that it ?
[08:43] <rocketman327> so no one has any clue when a package won't install?
[08:43] <s_spiff> read the description na..
[08:43] <stevr1it> it does not work anyway
[08:43] <thegladiator> kdevelop3 and if ys does it support python etc ?
[08:43] <s_spiff> rocketman327, try the forums..
[08:43] <coz> rocketman327 what application?
[08:43] <rocketman327> s_spiff: thanks
[08:44] <rocketman327> coz: libqt4-dev
[08:44] <LoPMX> ok thanks
[08:44] <s_spiff> i'm a noob myself, so can't help much with the commands..
[08:44] <coz> hold on i will check
[08:44] <_jason> rocketman327, what error do you get
[08:44] <thegladiator> np i am my way installing kdevelop3 lets see
[08:44] <rocketman327> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libqt4-dev: Depends: xlibs-dev (>= 4.2.1) but it is not installable
[08:44] <thegladiator> that shdu be i
[08:44] <thegladiator> it*
[08:44] <rocketman327> and such
[08:44] <thegladiator> s_spiff, from ?
[08:44] <MrPockets> can gobox burn CDs, or only rip them?
[08:44] <XTR> Oh hi. I've installed sshd on my Ubuntu Live session. Now what user account/password do I use to login to it?
[08:44] <thegladiator> s_spiff, kahan se ho ?
[08:44] <s_spiff> from what?
[08:44] <s_spiff> mumbai yaar
[08:45] <s_spiff> i prefer to call it bombay :P
[08:45] <_jason> rocketman327, pastebin your sources.list
[08:45] <thegladiator> s_spiff, great yaar ! he he
[08:45] <jenda> MrPockets: read, I think. Use serpuntine for audio
[08:45] <thegladiator> me too
[08:45] <jenda> MrPockets: *serpentine
[08:45] <freak_> s_spiff, so "update-rc.d *program* 345 start ." won't work?
[08:45] <thegladiator> kidhar ? exactly ?
[08:45] <stevr1it> no result
[08:45] <malefestra> max_c: you there?
[08:45] <rocketman327> _jason: i'm new to ubuntu from gentoo... where can I find that file?
[08:45] <stevr1it> it does not work at all
[08:45] <coz> rocketman327 they are in synaptic what errors do yu get
[08:45] <_jason> rocketman327, /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:45] <rocketman327> _jason: thanks
[08:45] <Crema10> i had a problem last night, I installed xine and win32codecs to watch DVD... everything started fine until I got a msg that said that the DVD was restricted or something, not enough something, i forget
[08:46] <stevr1it> jason
[08:46] <thegladiator> libqt4 is there in synaptic
[08:46] <Crema10> the DVD was Start Wars III
[08:46] <MrPockets> does serpentine come with Ubuntu?
[08:46] <freak_> Crema10, check the DVD region
[08:46] <coz> Crema10 I need to know what the something is
[08:46] <s_spiff> freak_, no clue with commands boss
[08:46] <thegladiator> no I guess MrPockets
[08:46] <XTR> Star Wars is rated R.
[08:46] <rocketman327> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy universe
[08:46] <rocketman327> just this
[08:46] <lowman62> Crema10: run this if it exists... /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[08:46] <s_spiff> thegladiator, wher r u from?
[08:46] <Crema10> coz: ok.. but i'll have to try again when i get back home
[08:46] <_jason> rocketman327, well there is your problem :)
[08:47] <thegladiator> MrPockets, not sur but I have it
[08:47] <_jason> ubotu, tell rocketman327 about easysource
[08:47] <coz> how long will that be
[08:47] <thegladiator> MrPockets, check out at distro wacth it shows the packages
[08:47] <Crema10> hmmm not till 11pm EST  :(
[08:47] <Crema10> i have school later today after work
[08:47] <thegladiator> s_spiff, cochin yaar
[08:47] <coz> Ok I will be here then
[08:47] <Crema10> until 10:30 P.M.
[08:47] <Crema10> ok cool!
[08:47] <thegladiator> s_spiff, where in mum exactly ?
[08:47] <Crema10> thansk coz :)
[08:47] <coz> No problem
[08:47] <rocketman327> _jason: awesome dude!
[08:47] <s_spiff> andheri
[08:47] <_jason> rocketman327, take a look at what a regular one looks like (ubotu will send you a link)
[08:47] <Crema10> i'll try to remember what lowman62 wrote also
[08:48] <thegladiator> s_spiff, east / west ?  :)
[08:48] <_jason> ubotu, tell rocketman327 about sources
[08:48] <lowman62> ;)
[08:48] <thegladiator> s_spiff, anyways good yaar . nice place to stay
[08:48] <coz> Ok again anyone ever thru synfig
[08:48] <s_spiff> hehe
[08:49] <coz> ever try synfig
[08:49] <s_spiff>  east
[08:49] <DaSkreec1> Hello
[08:49] <djlilyazi> when i try to access system---admin---and any of the tools there
[08:49] <djlilyazi> i can
[08:49] <djlilyazi> cant
[08:49] <s_spiff>  coz why don't you try the forums?
[08:49] <djlilyazi> even after i put the password nothing happens
[08:49] <djlilyazi> what can i do to slove it ?
[08:49] <DaSkreec1> Why would Firefox tell me that the Java Plugin must be installed manually?
[08:49] <coz> s_spiff nothing aviable that i could see there is even a synfig channel with 8 people there who never answer
[08:50] <unu> hello
[08:50] <_jason> djlilyazi, does sudo work?
[08:50] <unu> i upgraded from warty
[08:50] <s_spiff> yeah...so start a new thread on forums..
[08:50] <djlilyazi> _jason, no
[08:50] <_jason> ubotu, tell DaSkreec1 about java
[08:50] <s_spiff>  someone will surely reply!
[08:50] <lowman62> http://wiki.synfig.com/Main_Page
[08:50] <djlilyazi> _jason, its like i have no permisiion to do anything
[08:50] <thegladiator> Unu gr8 and breezy is better ?
[08:50] <coz> lowmand62 i will look
[08:50] <_jason> djlilyazi, are you using the user account you created when you installed ubuntu?  and has sudo ever worked?
[08:50] <coz> no been there done that
[08:50] <unu> thegladiator: no ads please :) i'm an ubu user for ~8 months now
[08:50] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell gladiator about python
[08:51] <djlilyazi> _jason, oh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh ofcourse
[08:51] <unu> i keep on forgetting how to authenticate packages :)
[08:51] <djlilyazi> _jason, what did u want me to try ?
[08:51] <s_spiff> what did he advert?
[08:51] <unu> because hoary & breezy use apt key or somethin'
[08:51] <DaSkreec1> _jason: Just to be clear Blackdown installs a Mozilla plugin?
[08:51] <rocketman327> _jason: awesome, thanks so much
[08:51] <s_spiff> any idea when the dapper is gonna be released?
[08:51] <_jason> DaSkreec1, I believe so
[08:52] <unu> 6.04 :)
[08:52] <thegladiator> s_spiff, april 20
[08:52] <DaSkreec1> _jason: Thanks
[08:52] <unu> 2006.04
[08:52] <_null> Is there any way to tell this gnome file chooser dialog to remember it's size?
[08:52] <_jason> djlilyazi, so yes it is your first account and sudo has worked in the past?
[08:52] <thegladiator> my adept is crashing of late can mem seg faults cause this problem ?  it happens at the fag end of the installtion process ?
[08:52] <thegladiator> my mem has a few problems
[08:52] <djlilyazi> _jason, yeah that is correct
[08:52] <fusionfox> is there a way to resume apt-get downloads if it gets interrupted??
[08:53] <unu> Install these packages without verification [y/N] ? y
[08:53] <unu> ok, how do i get rid of this?
[08:53] <lowman62> y
[08:53] <AndyR> lo all
[08:53] <_jason> djlilyazi, what happens when you try a command with sudo? anything?  try: sudo echo hi
[08:53] <unu> i did several upgrades to breezy, but i always forget :)
[08:53] <djlilyazi> _jason, nothing happend
[08:53] <DaSkreec1> CanYouHelpMePlz: Nice Nick
[08:54] <_jason> djlilyazi, sudo -K, then try again
[08:54] <djlilyazi> _jason, how do i check what type of user i am ?
[08:54] <CanYouHelpMePlz> DaSkreec1: thanks
[08:54] <stefano_> kopete works but it is quite worst than gaim
[08:54] <_jason> djlilyazi, what do you mean?
[08:54] <stefano_> i mean that if gaim doe not work on my laptop i have to use kopete
[08:54] <djlilyazi> _jason, i dont know i think i am just very frsutrated...sorry...
[08:54] <lowman62> stefano_: what do you use it for? yahoo or what??
[08:55] <jouni__m> fusionfox apt-get upgrade if you are upgrading
[08:55] <djlilyazi> _jason, sudo -K did nothing
[08:55] <stefano_> for work, msn yahoo and icq
[08:55] <coNP> stefano_: what is the problem with gaim?
[08:55] <lowman62> stefano_: how come gaim is not working?
[08:55] <stefano_> conp the proble is that it crashs
[08:55] <fusionfox> jouni__m, (O_o)??? what...??
[08:56] <stefano_> after the first moment it stops and appears a white page
[08:56] <_jason> djlilyazi, ok you are going to have to post the contents of /etc/sudoers.  To do that though you need superuser priveleges.  If you can't get them, pop in a livecd and mount your drive to access it.
[08:56] <thegladiator> does Xchat use GTK can it be configured for KDE ?
[08:56] <lowman62> stefano_: delete your local .gaim folder or rename it and start it should not crash no more
[08:56] <AndyR> does anyone know why the fglrx xserver wont do new logins?
[08:56] <stefano_> i have tryed to find it. do you know where it could be?
[08:56] <tiomo> anyone in here can help me with ndiswrapper stabilility issues? my notebook is hard crashing continuously...
[08:56] <drcurl> I'm having some problems with dvipdf, I get this error: "cmr17 not found..." and the resulting fonts in pdf are ugly
[08:56] <coNP> stefano_: breezy?
[08:56] <stefano_> yes
[08:56] <jouni__m> fusionfox downloaded files are saved to /var/cache/apt/archives. just continnue.
[08:56] <djlilyazi> _jason, so i do sudo .etc/sudoers ?
[08:57] <_jason> djlilyazi, before we do that, paste what the command 'groups' returns
[08:57] <lowman62> stefano_: open console and do this ... mv .gaim .gaim.backup
[08:57] <stefano_> where it could be under breezy?
[08:57] <lowman62> stefano_: open console and do this ... mv .gaim .gaim.backup
[08:57] <djlilyazi> _jason, this is what it gave me yasmeen dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner
[08:57] <stefano_> i did it laready . but nothing
[08:57] <lowman62> stefano_: then start gaim
[08:57] <stefano_> i did it
[08:58] <stefano_> no result
[08:58] <lowman62> stefano_: reinstall it then
[08:58] <_jason> djlilyazi, no 'admin' group.  That's the problem
[08:58] <stefano_> already done
[08:58] <stefano_> twice
[08:58] <djlilyazi> _jason, WOOOOOOW UR RIGHT !!
[08:58] <stefano_> under wchich folder it can be?
[08:58] <lowman62> stefano_: *shrugs* your a mess
[08:58] <djlilyazi> _jason, so my live cd will solve this for me ?
[08:59] <saif> whats Synaptic?
[08:59] <_jason> djlilyazi, you don't have any other users?  yeah we cna use the livecd
[08:59] <CanYouHelpMePlz> !tell saif about synaptic
[08:59] <stefano_> what doe sit means
[08:59] <djlilyazi> _jason, so what do i do when i put the live cd ?
[08:59] <JeremyPrivett> Hey guys, I need some serious help. X has crapped out on me and I can't get logged in.
[08:59] <stefano_> shrugh what does it means?
[08:59] <JeremyPrivett> http://www.omegavortex.com/xsession-errors.txt
[08:59] <JeremyPrivett> That's the error I'm receiving.
[09:00] <sorush20> I'm unable to permanently set the hdparm for my hda, I am configureing the hdparm.conf file but on reboot the settings have not been loaded any ideas? here is my hdparm config file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6851
[09:00] <lowman62> stefano_: *shrugs*
[09:00] <_jason> djlilyazi, the file we want to look at is: /etc/group.  You can read it.  Take a look at it now
[09:00] <stefano_> what does it mean. I am italian
[09:00] <lowman62> stefano_: *shrugs*  means i don't know
[09:00] <stefano_> ok
[09:00] <stefano_> sorry
[09:00] <stefano_>  thank you
[09:00] <lowman62> np ;)
[09:00] <JeremyPrivett> I'm currently in a recovery console ... So, I can't see much.
[09:00] <zim> hi all i have a server install of ubuntu and would like some better colors by default in vim what do i do
[09:01] <Exdaix> Hey guys, I have totem-xine install, libdvdcss2 and libdvdread3 installed, but encrypted commercial DVD's won't play. I've tried VLC, Ogle, you name it.  Nothing works.  Any ideas?
[09:01] <JeremyPrivett> Anyone?
[09:01] <djlilyazi> _jason, thank you jason at least i  know what is my problem
[09:01] <djlilyazi> _jason, u have beensooooooooo much help
[09:01] <djlilyazi> _jason, i have to go to work but thank you for ur help
[09:01] <lowman62> Exdaix: run this if it exists... /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[09:01] <MrPockets> i just want to thank you fellas.  i really epreciate all the help you guys offer.
[09:02] <Exdaix> lowman62: yea I've tried that
[09:02] <jouni__m> JeremyPrivett try startx with normal user as workaround
[09:02] <_jason> djlilyazi, np, just add yourself to the admin group in that file
[09:02] <MaDSeN> I get constant error 16 when Grub is loading
[09:02] <JeremyPrivett> Yes. I already know that works.
[09:02] <lowman62> Exdaix: what happens exactly?
[09:02] <JeremyPrivett> But, I'm not looking for a workaround.
[09:02] <JeremyPrivett> I need a solution.
[09:02] <fr0x> I cannot view  WMV on web, I am getting this error:
[09:02] <fr0x> You are currently not using Microsoft Internet Explorer.
[09:02] <fr0x> For smoother operation, we recommend using Microsoft Internet Explorer with Microsoft Windows Media Player.
[09:02] <fr0x> However, you can still play the CastUP media item by clicking the link below:
[09:02] <ZiX_> hi all, i want to network from ubuntu to gentoo with NFS, any idea how?
[09:02] <fr0x> Anyone has any idea how can I fix it?
[09:02] <_jason> fr0x, click the link below?
[09:02] <zim> hi all i have a server install of ubuntu and would like some better colors by default in vim what do i do
[09:03] <stevr1it> sorry last question. I have found the folder of gaim, howw can i cahnge now the permission to delete it?
[09:03] <coNP> ZiX_: do you want to see ubuntu-hosted things in gentoo?
[09:03] <fr0x> _jason, it opens me a save dialog with a file named gm.asp
[09:03] <_jason> stevr1it, what folder exactly do you want to delete
[09:03] <Exdaix> lowman62: for example, I put in a DVD, fire up totem and tell it to play the DVD... it goes through to the menu, but when I tell it to play the movie it gtells me "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?"
[09:03] <stevr1it> gaim
[09:03] <fr0x> _jason, nothing to do with this file
[09:03] <karlwrk> what's the easiest way to get 2.6.15 kernel source with the ubuntu patches?
[09:04] <coNP> karlwrk: wait :)
[09:04] <jouni__m> JeremyPrivett just guessing: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[09:04] <lowman62> Exdaix: try this here http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/chap10.php#video <--I had the same prob
[09:04] <_jason> fr0x, you can use the 'user agent switcher' extension for firefox to trick it into thinking you are using IE but that may or may not let you view the video anyway
[09:04] <stevr1it> etc/gaim
[09:04] <karlwrk> coNP: that's not really the answer I wanted to hear :)
[09:04] <zim> sudo stevr1it  rm -Rf dir
[09:04] <karlwrk> it can't be that hard, or at least, it shouldn't
[09:04] <zim> stevr1it  sudo rm -Rf dir
[09:04] <_jason> stevr1it, you don't want to do that
[09:04] <stevr1it> why?
[09:04] <karlwrk> I only ask because my own 2.6.15 doesn't give me any sound for some reason
[09:04] <fr0x> _jason, how can I do this user agent switcher?
[09:04] <_jason> stevr1it, remove it with synaptic and make sure you select for 'complete removal'
[09:05] <lowman62> stevrlit: that is not the one to delete
[09:05] <Exdaix> lowman62: the codecs?
[09:05] <zim> true
[09:05] <stevr1it> jason i did it already
[09:05] <lowman62> Exdaix: yes
[09:05] <Exdaix> lowman62: ok thanks ill give it a shot
[09:05] <coNP> karlwrk: dapper has 2.6.15 source and I think some image too, if you really need it, you might try it
[09:05] <lowman62> Exdaix: yw :)
[09:05] <_jason> fr0x, https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=59
[09:05] <karlwrk> I was hoping for a more general procedure :)
[09:06] <stevr1it> it says command not found , in root of course
[09:06] <zim> stevr1it  ok then if its just cleaning up old conf file      sudo rm -Rf dir
[09:06] <lowman62> Exdaix: run that script again after you install the codecs
[09:06] <karlwrk> it seems that ubuntu makes it extremely difficult to use your own kernel
[09:06] <coNP> karlwrk: more general?
[09:06] <stevr1it> i did it
[09:06] <coNP> karlwrk: I use my own 2.6.14, without patches without problems
[09:06] <stevr1it> but it answer command not found
[09:06] <karlwrk> alternatively, I have a kernel I built from 2.6.15, it works in general, but I have no sound
[09:06] <zim> can anyone helpme with my Q
[09:06] <zim> hi all i have a server install of ubuntu and would like some better colors by default in vim what do i do
[09:06] <karlwrk> I have no idea why my sound disappeared though :(
[09:06] <MaDSeN> I get constant error 16 when Grub is loading
[09:07] <coNP> karlwrk: that's why I asked if the sound modules are compiled and loaded properly
[09:07] <_jason> zim, try in #vim
[09:07] <MaDSeN> any solution what to do?
[09:07] <zim> all dead in there
[09:07] <karlwrk> well, I took the config from /boot of a fresh install, from the 2.6.12-386
[09:07] <zim> am in there now
[09:07] <karlwrk> did a a make oldconfig
[09:07] <Exdaix> lowman62: lol nope...   bah Ubuntu used to love me...  now it seems I'm it's worst enemy
[09:07] <fr0x> It works
[09:07] <fr0x> I appreciate it _jason
[09:07] <davey> zim, theres a couple of things you can do, the easiest is to edit ~/.vimrc and add: "color: murphy"
[09:07] <_jason> fr0x, np
[09:07] <karlwrk> then added all the IDE stuff in, and built
[09:07] <davey> zim, replacing murphy with your preferred color scheme :)
[09:07] <coz> Exdaux what is the problem
[09:07] <zim> ty
[09:08] <JeremyPrivett> Now that I can see better ...
[09:08] <lowman62> Exdaix: run that script again after you install the codecs
[09:08] <Exdaix> coz:  I put in a DVD, fire up totem and tell it to play the DVD... it goes through to the menu, but when I tell it to play the movie it gtells me "The source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?"
[09:08] <coNP> karlwrk: okay, are your sound-card modules compiled?
[09:08] <zim> where do u add them
[09:08] <Exdaix> coz: and I have everythign installed
[09:08] <karlwrk> how could I check the sound modules? artsd is running, things like xmms and vlc "play" and do visualisation and stuff, but no sound output
[09:08] <saif> how can i edit sources.list
[09:08] <coz> no you don't
[09:08] <Exdaix> lowman62: yea I did...  :/
[09:08] <davey> zim, just anywhere in that file is fine
[09:08] <coNP> karlwrk: and what about the mixer?
[09:08] <Exdaix> coz: so what am I msising
[09:08] <JeremyPrivett> Can anyone help me with this problem: http://www.omegavortex.com/xsession-errors.txt
[09:08] <lowman62> Exdaix: sudo apt-get install xine <--try that
[09:08] <coNP> karlwrk: I mean volume control
[09:08] <Evodawg> malefestra:  how do I get sudo apt-get or should I use the cvs recommended by mplayer?
[09:08] <coz> libdvdcss
[09:08] <JeremyPrivett> It's not letting me log in.
[09:08] <stevr1it> i have tried : sudo rm -Rf /ect/gaim but it does not work
[09:09] <_Saif_> let me know how can i edit
[09:09] <karlwrk> well I have volume control, kmix is running, I can volume up/down
[09:09] <_Saif_> sources.list
[09:09] <stevr1it> what is worng?
[09:09] <Exdaix> coz: I have that
[09:09] <coNP> stevr1it: sudo rm -Rf /etc/gaim
[09:09] <Exdaix> lowman62: ok
[09:09] <coz> did you restart
[09:09] <karlwrk> it's almost like I have it muted or something, but if I reboot to the stock kernal, it starts working again
[09:09] <davey> zim, you may also want to add: :syn on, for syntax highlighting
[09:09] <coNP> karlwrk: does it find any soundcards (by properties)?
[09:09] <cello_rasp> any good ipod (shuffle) linux interface programs?
[09:09] <Exdaix> coz: no ill try that in a sec after I check xine-lib
[09:09] <zim> davey where do u add new themes
[09:09] <lowman62> Exdaix: totem never worked for me
[09:10] <zim> ty
[09:10] <_Saif_> i want to install audio player on my ubuntu 5.10 breezy
[09:10] <stevr1it> thank you bye
[09:10] <coz> Exdaix run this in the terminal   sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[09:10] <davey> zim, you want to add a new theme? somewhere in .vim :)
[09:10] <fr0x> _jason, I thought that it works because I see no longer this error and instead of it I see the picture of the movie, though when I click on "Play" - Nothing happens. It does not play the movie.
[09:10] <davey> zim ~/.vim - I think.
[09:10] <Exdaix> coz: just did a minute ago
[09:10] <zim> davey .vimrc not there should i just add it
[09:10] <coz> ok
[09:10] <davey> I personally find the defaults to be more than adequate (theres is a lot)
[09:10] <davey> zim, yes, just create it
[09:10] <Exdaix> lowman62: hmm ok hold on gzine is installing
[09:10] <zim> ty
[09:11] <karlwrk> nd_intel8x0 is loaded, and a bunch of other snd_modules.  Kmixer says sound drivers supported, alsa + oss, sound driver in use: alsa
[09:11] <_jason> fr0x, yeah it probably relies on some code only ie understands.  Is this a public thing?  I can try it on my setup and see if I can work around it
[09:11] <coz> Rxdaix If after restart it still doesn't work we can start at the beginning and check thing
[09:11] <_Saif_> i want to install audio player on my ubuntu 5.10 breezy
[09:11] <lowman62> Exdaix: ok
[09:11] <_jason> _Saif_, any audio player in specific?
[09:11] <lowman62> Exdaix: let me know
[09:11] <coz> Exdaix sorry
[09:11] <davey> zim, in vim; if you type <esc> :color <tab>, pressing the <tab> key will go through them all :)
[09:11] <LoPMX> is there any 3d acceleration for a Intel Media Accelerator 900?
[09:11] <fr0x> _jason, sure, thanks: http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3197670,00.html
[09:11] <_Saif_> such as xmms2
[09:11] <davey> zim, and my config line was wrong, its ":color murphy"
[09:12] <_Saif_> tell me any good one, and which has easy setup to install
[09:12] <Kibou> actually it's colorscheme murphy
[09:12] <coz> Saif I havnt tried xmms2 but xmms works fine
[09:12] <cyphase> _Saif_, Rhymbox is a good audio manager
[09:12] <davey> Kibou, I beg your pardon, :color also works
[09:12] <cyphase> Rhythmbox*
[09:12] <coz> Kibou you have coloscheme installed????
[09:12] <lowman62> Amarok
[09:12] <_Saif_> Rhythmbox is fine
[09:12] <_Saif_> i like xmms, i played that on Suse
[09:13] <Exdaix> lowman62: bah gxine gave me a dvd error once it tried to play the ecrpyted part.
[09:13] <coz> Saif xmms is really nice especially with streamtuner and streamripper
[09:13] <lowman62> i have xmms in ubuntu breezy works great
[09:13] <coz> Kibou do you have colorscheme installed?
[09:13] <_Saif_> ok thats great! let me know if any one can help me to install xmms in my breez
[09:13] <_Saif_> y
[09:13] <j-linux> I have a ThinkPad T43 (Centrino).  I can't connect with wireless, either with the Centrino or with an Orinoco Gold.  My signal is good.  My settings look right.  Are there any issues with Breezy and wireless?  Some secret trick?
[09:13] <lowman62> Exdaix: okay have you enabled dma?
[09:13] <Kibou> installed? no..
[09:14] <Exdaix> lowman62: I've never had this much trouble getting DVDs running in the past 6 years using Linux... lol
[09:14] <karlwrk> apt-get install xmms ?
[09:14] <coz> Saif how did youget that thing installed? I have been trying
[09:14] <j-linux> I've tried connecting on many different wireless networks and can't do it.
[09:14] <_jason> ubotu, tell _Saif_ about synaptic
[09:14] <lowman62> Exdaix: I know what you mean i had a hard time with it too
[09:14] <Exdaix> lowman62: yea
[09:14] <lowman62> okay can I msg you?
[09:14] <_Saif_> i have not installed it yet, i wanted to install it
[09:14] <Exdaix> lowman62: yea np
[09:14] <lowman62> ok
[09:14] <coz> Exdaix it is easy if you want to start over to check things
[09:15] <fr0x> _jason, It works for you?
[09:15] <_jason> fr0x, nope, but for some reason it doesn't throw that error at me
[09:15] <fusionfox> Ubuntu does not detect NTFS partitions, what can i do to acces my NTFS partitions?
[09:15] <Eugman> anyone know how to remove an unremovable package?
[09:15] <coz> Exdaix open the terminal
[09:15] <_Saif_> _jason, should i pm you?
[09:15] <coz> I will give you several things to type in
[09:15] <theine> Eugman, what do you mean by 'unremovable'?
[09:15] <Exdaix> coz: fire away
[09:16] <coz> you will alredy have some of these but still type them in
[09:16] <cyphase> has anyone noticed that Google Pack uses the same concept as linux package managers
[09:16] <_jason> _Saif_, read the link ubotu sent you
[09:16] <theine> Eugman, that it will remove lots of other packages too?
[09:16] <fr0x> _jason, once I have installed this agent you gave me I don't get this error anymore, but I simply cannot play the movie. Can you play it?
[09:16] <_jason> fr0x, nope
[09:16] <_Saif_> let me read it twice
[09:16] <fr0x> _jason, Any clue how to fix it?
[09:16] <coz> sudo apt-get install totem-xine gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[09:16] <karlwrk> coNP: ok, both the working and non-working kernels have a bunch of snd_* modules loaded,what else were you suggesting I look for?
[09:16] <jouni__m> JeremyPrivett http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26854.html and search ICEauthority
[09:17] <_Saif_> coz, that command was for me?
[09:17] <fr0x> Anyone has any idea why I cannot play movies over the firefox (wmv movies) - For example, the movie in this link: http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3197670,00.html
[09:17] <butcherbird> fusionfox: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountNTFSonBoot
[09:17] <coz> no that was for exdaix
[09:17] <Eugman> I mean it causes an error in the remove scripts
[09:17] <Exdaix> coz: ok
[09:17] <fusionfox> butcherbird, thx
[09:17] <_Saif_> ok
[09:17] <karlwrk> hmm, what do you know
[09:17] <karlwrk> it's working.
[09:18] <Eugman> I can use paste bin to ecplain better if you'd like
[09:18] <coz> Exdaix sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[09:18] <karlwrk> buggers me what was differen the rest of the day
[09:18] <_jason> fr0x, okay I'm playing it, turns out I was blocking javascript
[09:18] <unl3ss> Hey everyone, I was wondering what I do to switch from KDE to Fluxbox as my window manager after I've installed the package
[09:18] <goldplatedpentiu> hey everyone
[09:18] <fr0x> _jason, It seems like I am blocking Javascript as well, where do I enable this block?
[09:18] <fr0x> disable I mean
[09:18] <mwe> unl3ss: just choose it in the login screen
[09:18] <goldplatedpentiu> how do i install AVG on ubuntu
[09:18] <_jason> fr0x, best way is to not use user agent switcher.  Just click that link they give you "clicking the link below: play"
[09:18] <goldplatedpentiu> ???
[09:18] <jouni__m> unl3ss log out and choose FLuxbox session
[09:19] <_jason> fr0x, I am using mplayerplug-in by the way
[09:19] <Eugman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6853
[09:19] <unl3ss> thanks mwe and jouni
[09:19] <_jason> fr0x, the javascript block just prevented me from seeing that error message about using internet explorer
[09:19] <coNP> karlwrk: does volume-applet or gnome-mixer recognize any sound cards?
[09:19] <fr0x> _jason, how call this plugin in apt-get?
[09:19] <fr0x> maybe I am missing this plugin
[09:20] <goldplatedpentiu> I have rpm and a aliened deb
[09:20] <Exdaix> coz: mmk
[09:20] <coz> Exdaix        gst-register-0.8      no sudo in front of it
[09:20] <_jason> fr0x, mozilla-mplayer
[09:20] <_Saif_> can i open .deb file with Archieve Manager
[09:20] <Exdaix> coz ok
[09:20] <_guest_> Hello - i am trying to install flash player on ubuntu - and need help
[09:20] <_jason> fr0x, you'll need mplayer installed first if you don't have it yet
[09:20] <_jason> ubotu, tell fr0x about mplayer
[09:20] <coz> Exdaix do you have w32codecs?
[09:20] <Exdaix> yea
[09:21] <sovvy2009> Hey, does anyone know any good Accessibility Aids for Gnome?
[09:21] <coz> oExdaix now do   hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[09:21] <sovvy2009> know of*
[09:21] <Blippe> noatun sigsevs when opening something it can't play. How do i stop that?
[09:21] <coz> that is a numbe one not an l
[09:21] <Exdaix> coz: ok
[09:21] <coz> now do sudo gedit /etc/hdparm.conf
[09:21] <Fear_cult> anyone know the min sys requirements for the ubuntu live cd?
[09:22] <_jason> _Saif_, I don't think so, what deb are you trying to open?
[09:22] <_Saif_> modem drivers
[09:22] <mwe> Fear_cult: I think it's listed on the site
[09:22] <iamrunningircasr> hey i can't add a new user
[09:22] <Exdaix> coz:  yea im in
[09:22] <Mykas0> hi everyone
[09:22] <coz> Exdaix  ok at the end of the document
[09:23] <butcherbird> Fear_cult: what kinda system do u want to run it on?
[09:23] <iamrunningircasr> i can't add any users
[09:23] <goldplatedpentiu> Does anyone kno how to install AVG
[09:23] <_jason> _Saif_, you can install .debs, are you following directions specific to ubuntu (not all .deb's will work)
[09:23] <coz> first type in /dev/hdc {
[09:23] <iamrunningircasr> i go to add user and type in my name
[09:23] <mwe> iamrunningircasr: somwhere in settings or useradd from a terminal
[09:23] <Fear_cult> butcherbird, p2 233 mmx 64 megs of ram 6g hdd ati video
[09:23] <iamrunningircasr> and it says something about writing not permitted
[09:23] <butcherbird> Fear_cult: should be ok gnome might be a little slow
[09:23] <iamrunningircasr> mwe
[09:23] <_Saif_> thats okay!
[09:24] <coz> Exdaix did you type that in
[09:24] <Fear_cult> kewl
[09:24] <iamrunningircasr> all i have is the command and one terminal
[09:24] <mwe> iamrunningircasr: what says that?
[09:24] <Exdaix> coz yea keep going
[09:24] <Fear_cult> i havent installed it yet just running the live to guage slowness its been loading for like 5 hours gnome still hasent come up lol
[09:24] <coz> Exdaix Under that type dam = on
[09:24] <mwe> iamrunningircasr: you need to use sudo useradd
[09:24] <lowman62> dma
[09:24] <coz> Exdaix UNDER that type   }
[09:24] <_Saif_> so let me know about xmms how to get it
[09:25] <coz> Exdaix close save
[09:25] <tuxedo_kamen> listen... I got a new ADSL modem and the CD came with USB-APL-1-1.8-0.1.0.1.tar for linux... any idea on how to use this file to install the internet on my ubuntu? (I am a newbie...)
[09:25] <_jason> _Saif_, open synaptic and search for 'xmms'
[09:25] <Exdaix> coz yup
[09:25] <carrere> hello
[09:25] <carrere> :] 
[09:25] <_guest_> How do i install flash player on ubuntu?
[09:25] <Fear_cult> tuxedo_kamen, tar xvf usb-aplblahblahblah
[09:25] <Fear_cult> itll unpack it
[09:25] <_jason> ubotu, tell Lis about flash
[09:25] <coz> Exdaix now run this again  sudo /sur/share/doc/libdvdread3/examp[les/install-css.sh
[09:25] <mwe> installing the internet might be very hard :)
[09:25] <tuxedo_kamen> yeah, i know tha
[09:25] <Fear_cult> unless u wanna do it the graphical way
[09:25] <tuxedo_kamen> t
[09:25] <tuxedo_kamen> but what next?
[09:26] <_Saif_> i search twice for xmms, but 2 result found
[09:26] <Fear_cult> vi README or INSTALL and it should tell you what to do
[09:26] <runniing> mitted
[09:26] <Fear_cult> prolly runs some wierd make options
[09:26] <Exdaix> coz:  ok
[09:26] <Exdaix> coz reboot?
[09:26] <_jason> _Saif_, which two
[09:26] <Morrowyn> why reboot?
[09:26] <runniing> hey it sais chown 1000:1000 /home/(user)   operation not permitted
[09:26] <tuxedo_kamen> ok, i will try
[09:26] <coz> Exdaix that should do it restart to be shure come back and let me know
[09:26] <tuxedo_kamen> thanks
[09:26] <Exdaix> k
[09:26] <runniing> i am having the user problem
[09:26] <mwe> runniing: sudo
[09:26] <Morrowyn> try sudo chown 1000:1000 <dir>
[09:26] <_Saif_> libflac7 and libmpeg0c2
[09:27] <coz> Exdaix when boot back up there should be an update for libdvdcss
[09:27] <runniing> but i am running all of this as root
[09:27] <goldplatedpentiu> Does anyone kno how to install AVG
[09:27] <_jason> _Saif_, read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XMMS
[09:27] <runniing> i don't have any users created
[09:27] <_Saif_> Ok
[09:27] <mwe> why not sudo chown user.group <dir>
[09:27] <runniing> the install F* up
[09:28] <j0bezone> My brother bought himself a NGS Robbie 2.0 webcam, and after finding out that there is no driver for it yet, he e-mailed the seller. They told him the specific chipset used, and after some searching he managed to find a pdf with the specifications of this chipset at its manufacturer website. From looking at it, this seems the stuff needed to develop a driver/module for linux. Unfortunally, neither him
[09:28] <runniing> do i need to run sudo if i am root?
[09:28] <j0bezone> or me know or have the time and motivation to learn device driver developing to create one. So I have this question: where should this info be sent to?
[09:28] <mwe> runniing: right that's what we're saying
[09:28] <runniing> ok
[09:28] <_Saif_> i read that before, the just released xmms2 and for installation all i need to edit the sources.list that is in etc\apt\ sources.list
[09:28] <runniing> i'll try that
[09:28] <coz> j0bezone try ubuntu
[09:29] <coz> send it to the develpers
[09:29] <mwe> runniing: normal users don't have rights to tamper with the system just like that
[09:29] <j0bezone> coz: ahh, good idea. As a bugreport, you mean?
[09:29] <northie> I'm about to exchange my secondary, non-OS, harddrive for a new one. Do I need to prepare ubuntu for this in any way?
[09:29] <coz> that might work
[09:29] <Eugman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6853
[09:29] <koyoda> !sources
[09:29] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:29] <lucasvo> northie: if the old one is still being mounted, remove it from /etc/fstab
[09:30] <lucasvo> northie: just shut down, plug it in, boot up, run gparted
[09:30] <tsw> how can I disable sound in gnome-terminal? --disable-sound didnt help
[09:30] <northie> gparted?
[09:30] <j0bezone> coz: thanks, I'll either do that, or post a message in the linux kernel mailing list. Probably will do the first. Thanks
[09:30] <lucasvo> northie: gnome partition managetr
[09:30] <Di42lo> hello
[09:31] <_Saif_> checking
[09:31] <DaSkreec1> _jason: Much thanks
[09:31] <Eugman> nothrie it's a program you can install using a package manager
[09:31] <_jason> DaSkreec1, np
[09:31] <northie> How do I remove it from /etc/fstab? I just run disks manager and unmount?
[09:31] <tsw> ah found it in the menu ;)
[09:32] <coz> j)bezone also be on the lookout for a  logitech orbit cam on sale they work right out of the box
[09:32] <Di42lo> I have 2 sounds card...and execpt the beep-media-player (which i can configure which driver i want to use) , i cant configure the different sound drive i wanna use (mplayer, games, micromedia flash etc...) how can i fix that ?
[09:32] <northie> lucasvo: How do I remove it from /etc/fstab? I just run disks manager and unmount?
[09:32] <butcherbird> northie: open in a text editor you will need root priv so 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab' the entry should be obvious
[09:33] <Eugman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6853 Ah but it seems noone can help.
[09:33] <j0bezone> coz: yeah, that's what I told him. He should probably return that webcam and get a fully supported one.
[09:34] <coz> j0bezone absolutely the problem with linux is "people, software, hardware"
[09:34] <northie> butcherbird, Thanks. But is it necessary? Not that it's hard, just seems odd to have to leave the gui for such a simple thing.
[09:34] <Kimppa> Hi. I have this weird problem. I was trying to copy a DVD using k3b. I put the DVD I wanted to copy in my dvd-drive and launched dvd copy from k3b. k3b copied the dvd on my hard drive and asked me to insert a blank dvd. I did that, but then I got an error (which I no longer can remember what it was), after that I haven't been able to use my dvd-drive
[09:34] <Kimppa> it doesn't mount any dvd's
[09:34] <Kimppa> even if I try "sudo mount /media/cdrom0/ -o unhide"
[09:34] <Kimppa> any ideas what's wrong and how to fix it?
[09:34] <Exdaix> lowman62: coz:  It works now, I am eternally grateful  :)
[09:34] <mazer> does anyone know how a could force gcc to compile by default with gcc-3.4 and not gcc3.3 ?
[09:34] <coz> Kimppa do you have dma enabled
[09:35] <MrPockets> whats the code to reset the gnome panel?
[09:35] <northie> Thanks, all. Geronimo.
[09:35] <coz> xdaix great sit back and enjoy
[09:35] <coz> Exdaix
[09:35] <Exdaix> lowman62: coz: time to watch some Bruce Willis action..  hahah
[09:35] <coz> Exdais no starwars????
[09:35] <Exdaix> :P
[09:35] <because> ubuntu owns
[09:35] <Kimppa> I've burned DVD's with it earlier today, but they were already as images on my computer. I've copied DVD's before, maybe a week ago
[09:35] <theine> Mr_Milenko, maybe "killall gnome-panel"
[09:35] <because> i have to go
[09:35] <because> i gotta say bye
[09:36] <Kimppa> coz: how do I check it?
[09:36] <why> is the world round?
[09:36] <everybody> says "bye ZiX"
[09:36] <everybody> bye all ;p
[09:36] <cvt|kde> does ubuntu come with an ftp client?
[09:36] <coz> Kimppa open up the terminal
[09:36] <mwe> cvt|kde: yes. it's called ftp
[09:37] <coz> Kimppa type in sudo hdparm /dev/hdc
[09:37] <jelle> can somewhone help me with a little problem that i have
[09:37] <coz> helle what is the probelm
[09:37] <coz> Kimppa you still here?
[09:37] <jelle> I want to install mplayer and i make the ./configure file
[09:38] <Eugman> !en
[09:38] <ubotu> methinks en is Queen's English Speakers; Essex inhabitants who may all go to #ubuntu-uk - anyone from the Island of Great Britain is also welcome.
[09:38] <jelle> but than het doesn't want to make the programma want i type make
[09:38] <mwe> !mplayer
[09:38] <ubotu> I heard mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[09:38] <johnstoj> does 5.10 come with a C++ compiler? I do not find g++
[09:38] <coz> jelle everyone here will hate me but go onto the internet and download automatix
[09:38] <Kimppa> coz: yeah... it's weird, it's taking ages to run that command
[09:38] <lucasvo> johnstoj: sudo apt-get install gcc
[09:38] <butcherbird> cvt|kde: might like gftp for a gui.  I think youll have to install it
[09:38] <mwe> jelle: just enable universe and sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[09:38] <Kimppa> coz: got the result, dma is on
[09:39] <jelle> ok i will do that
[09:39] <coz> ok if it that slow something is up
[09:39] <cvt|kde> butcherbird, thx
[09:39] <Kimppa> coz: I also got this -> HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument
[09:39] <coz> Kimppa that one I am not familiar with
[09:39] <coz> Kimppa sorry
[09:39] <mwe> jelle: or enable multiverse, rather
[09:40] <Kimppa> coz: np.. any ideas what I could try? Except rebootin :)
[09:40] <coz> jelle also download automatix
[09:40] <Kimppa> +g
[09:40] <coz> jelle just follow directions CAREFULLY
[09:40] <mwe> !automatix
[09:40] <ubotu> automatix is probably messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[09:40] <yut> come aggiungo ubuntu italia alla server list
[09:40] <coz> ubotu you need to do more research ti does not break anything unless you have hardware issues
[09:40] <ubotu> coz: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[09:41] <yut> www.ubuntu.it
[09:41] <johnstoj> lucasvo: i am at school and only have access to wireless, so I am trying to get XSupplicant but need gcc to make it. Can I DL gcc and move to laptop via pendrive?
[09:41] <_Saif_> can i disable that auto dial while ubuntu starts?
[09:41] <Sapentis> Heya.
[09:41] <lucasvo> johnstoj: yes
[09:41] <mwe> coz: it enables the root user for one thing and is known to overwrite system files
[09:41] <userasroot> hey guys i' gonna paste to flood
[09:41] <lucasvo> userasroot: ?
[09:42] <Sapentis> userasroot, I advise that you don't.
[09:42] <_Saif_> how
[09:42] <coz> mwe it does not overwrite
[09:42] <_Saif_> can i disable?
[09:42] <unl3ss> Anyone here have experience with Fluxbox?
[09:42] <shrike_00> how can i disable ubuntu trying to synch time when computer starts.  Takes about 4 min and I know its not going to work.
[09:42] <_Saif_> auto dial while computer starts
[09:42] <userasroot> unl3ss, i am
[09:43] <yut> www.ubuntu.it
[09:43] <userasroot> hey i am haivng a heck of a time figuring out how to add a user
[09:43] <userasroot> unl3ss, what is up?
[09:43] <sethk> userasroot, useradd
[09:43] <lsuactiafner> shrike_00 : sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[09:43] <userasroot> sethk, could you look at #flood
[09:43] <sethk> userasroot, wait, let me /join it
[09:43] <unl3ss> userasroot: Great... I would like to make the switch from KDE to Fluxbox, but I'm having a problem getting the GUI set up
[09:43] <mwe> shrike_00: you can press ctrl-c to stop it though
[09:44] <lsuactiafner> shrike_00 : bootup will say ntpdate [fail]  afterward and dont worry about it
[09:44] <sethk> userasroot, ok, I'm in #flood
[09:44] <Madeye> guys, I'm on a network where all PC's connected via DHCP, How can I get their IP's ? actually there is only two computers
[09:44] <unl3ss> userasroot: And by that I mean that I would like to get the same structure as with KDE when I right-click
[09:44] <unl3ss> userasroot: As with the All Applications menu
[09:44] <lsuactiafner> unl3ss : blackbox is even better, find a howto detailing how to configure menus, backgrounds ect
[09:44] <shrike_00> thx
[09:45] <unl3ss> I was just wondering if there was a migration guide so that the menus could transfer over
[09:45] <lsuactiafner> unl3ss : i run blackbox as is, no backgrounds, just a custum menu, just incase you dont know, click the left right middle buttons on the desktop to bring up the various menus you need
[09:45] <_Saif_> i want to disable auto dialing when computer starts
[09:45] <userasroot> unl3ss, you will have to edit the ~/.fluxbox/menu for that
[09:46] <userasroot> unl3ss, just a seck
[09:46] <unl3ss> userasroot: Thanks
[09:46] <lsuactiafner> _Saif_ : sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ppp might do the trick
[09:46] <_Saif_> i want to disable auto dialing when computer starts
[09:47] <mwe> unl3ss: if you install menu and menu-xdg you'll get a fluxbox menu with most apps in it. you'll have to use fluxconf to point it to using the file though
[09:47] <_Saif_> are you sure lsuactiafner
[09:47] <unl3ss> mwe: Ah, alright.... thanks
[09:47] <HaiKarate> Madeye : several ways... look at the logs of the dhcp server device to see what leases have been given.  if you cannot do that, then use something like nmap- for example, if your ip is 192.168.1.10, then do something like this at a terminal prompt: sudo apt-get install nmap && sudo nmap -sP 192.168.1.*
[09:48] <lsuactiafner> _Saif_ : as i said, no am not sure, havent done it myself, since this machine has no modem, but am 95% sure
[09:48] <lsuactiafner> _Saif_ : so test it
[09:48] <_Saif_> Ok
[09:48] <userasroot> unl3ss, http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php/Howto_edit_menu
[09:48] <unl3ss> mwe: I just checked and I have both of those installed, but still there's nothing
[09:49] <exosyst> hey guys, sorry to be rude. I am playing with dapper and it refuses to play mp3s (in totem and rhythmbox) even tho it was fine in breezy. Did something happen to gstreamer i am unaware of?
[09:49] <mwe> unl3ss: you have to use fluxconf like I said
[09:49] <unl3ss> thanks userasroot
[09:49] <mwe> unl3ss: point it to use fluxbox-menu instead of menu
[09:49] <Mithsir> Hi! Ubuntu seems to load usbhid.ko from the initrd, right? How do I change that? I have my own usbhid.ko (recompiled for my wacom graphics tablet).
[09:49] <HaiKarate> exosyst : umm i don't think dapper is supported yet, so if something doesn't work in it, yer own yer own homey
[09:49] <_Saif_> i have save that command, i will test it when i logout from computer
[09:49] <exosyst> oh bum!
[09:50] <mwe> unl3ss: that menu will be update as you install/uninstall programs with apt
[09:50] <Mithsir> In other words: How do I replace files within the initrd image?
[09:50] <unl3ss> mwe: I assume it recognizes the programs already installed, too
[09:51] <mwe> unl3ss: right
[09:51] <mwe> unl3ss: run update-menus from the terminal to make sure
[09:51] <johnstoj> lucasvo: if I need to ask this question elsewhere, let me know: where can I look to DL a gcc package? gcc.gnu offers the source but a package would be much nicer
[09:52] <gimmulf> Whats a good shell hosting service?
[09:52] <unl3ss> mwe: Is fluxconf supposed to be in Mac format?!
[09:52] <mwe> unl3ss: mac format?
[09:52] <mazer> does anyone know how a could force gcc to compile by default with gcc-3.4 and not gcc3.3 ?
[09:53] <unl3ss> mwe: Yeah, I'm opening it with nano and I'm getting heaps of gibberish with the message (Converted from Mac format)
[09:53] <mwe> unl3ss: sudo apt-get install fluxconf if you don't have it
[09:53] <mwe> unl3ss: type fluxconf at the terminal
[09:53] <userasroot> sethk, how do i delete a user?
[09:53] <mwe> unl3ss: it's a program
[09:53] <userasroot> or anyone?
[09:53] <woodgrain> is gdb included in build-essential?
[09:53] <unl3ss> mwe: ohhhhhh, sorry, I'm still thinking it's a text file, sorry ;)
[09:53] <HaiKarate> userasroot : userdel or deluser
[09:53] <sethk> userasroot, userdel
[09:54] <be1st> hi, I havn't used the distri yet, but would you say that it will work on an acer Aspire 5022WMLI laptop?
[09:54] <ompaul> be1st, why not check the live CD the wireless will take a little work but should be okay
[09:55] <be1st> where can I download th live cd?
[09:55] <mwe> be1st: check the laptop wiki at wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:55] <be1st> ok
[09:55] <mwe> be1st: and google
[09:55] <lsuactiafner> johnstoj : apt-get install build-essentials
[09:55] <ompaul> be1st, I got the bot to send you a message about wireless
[09:56] <moodog> Evening all.
[09:56] <XTR> OH hi. Any body see anythign wrong with this syntax, is --exclude in the right place? tar -zcvf foo.tar.gz /path --exclude=/home/user/blah
[09:56] <johnstoj> lsuactiafner: i have no network right now without wireless, and i need gcc to build xsupplicant to get wireless, :(
[09:56] <be1st> thanks
[09:56] <unl3ss> mwe: Where is the menu file normally located?
[09:56] <mwe> unl3ss: /home/<user>/.fluxbox/menu
[09:56] <moret> hi all!
[09:57] <moret> hi all!
[09:57] <moret> please help
[09:57] <moret> My firefox crashes when execute a java applet
[09:57] <mwe> unl3ss: /home/<user>/.fluxbox/fluxbox.menu for the xdg menu
[09:57] <moret> konqueror does not work too
[09:57] <LoPMX> is there any 3d acceleration for a Intel Media Accelerator 900?
[09:57] <moret> I thin it's a library problem
[09:57] <Papageno> Sorry for the silly question. Is it linux editors that do both \r and \n at line ends or is windows editors? If it is linux editors, can I force Kate to do only \n?
[09:57] <computerdude> I've never seen this channel go inactive for more then 5 minutes.
[09:58] <Jeeves2001> hello all, having some trouble setting up a shared drive on ubuntu to be accessed by a windows 98 machine, I am able to see the windows machine in Ubuntu but every time i copy a file it stops after a few seconds saying syntax error any one able to help / advise?
[09:58] <mwe> moret: firefox and java do not alway play nice together
[09:58] <vodnik> hello all, i messed up my partitions and I think i need gpart, I am currently on Ubuntu live CD, is there any way to install it somehow }i have got external harddrive with ext# partition attached, no messed partitions there] 
[09:58] <unl3ss> thanks mwe, I'm going to boot into it and I'll let you know how it's coming
[09:58] <moret> mwe, in Debian it works really fine
[09:58] <johnstoj> exit
[09:58] <mwe> moret: no
[09:58] <lsuactiafner> johnstoj : apt-get install build-essentials
[09:58] <mwe> moret: not always
[09:59] <mwe> moret: ff/java on linux == random crashes
[10:00] <moret> mwe, kaffe?
[10:00] <woodgrain> how do I install build-essentials for ubuntu?
[10:00] <mwe> moret: ?
[10:00] <moret> apt-get install build-essential
[10:00] <woodgrain> !build-essential
[10:00] <butcherbird> woodgrain: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:00] <ubotu> woodgrain: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:00] <woodgrain> butcherbird, how can I add your response to hte bot?
[10:01] <bshumate> Papageno: windoze line ending format is carriage return + linefeed (\r\n) and gnu/linux/unix is linefeed only (\n)
[10:01] <ompaul> !gcc
[10:01] <ubotu> somebody said gcc was the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[10:01] <mwe> !tell woodgrain about help
[10:01] <butcherbird> woodgrain: i believe 'ubotu !build-essential is whateverresponseshouldbe
[10:02] <ompaul> ubotu build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[10:02] <ubotu> okay, ompaul
[10:02] <mwe> butcherbird: leave ot the !
[10:02] <woodgrain> !build-essential
[10:02] <ubotu> I guess build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[10:03] <woodgrain> butcherbird,  is that 'ubotu or /ubotu?
[10:03] <ompaul> !bot
[10:03] <butcherbird> ubotu
[10:03] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[10:04] <Necrosan> does 5.10 come with the wlan-ng drivers for linksys wireless stuff?
[10:04] <ompaul> woodgrain, it is a db that reacts to some simple commands
[10:04] <LittleBoot> is this working?
[10:04] <slashx1896> He yall
[10:04] <ompaul> LittleBoot, define working?
[10:04] <slashx1896> hey all*
[10:04] <LittleBoot> Guess it is
[10:05] <slashx1896> im trying to get a program on linux , called xlink kai..., i have the Linux (x86) file.. and well it says to type sudo /kaid -c kaid.conf, and when i do that it says kaid , no such command
[10:05] <fealz> lol
[10:05] <Necrosan> HELLO
[10:05] <Necrosan> does 5.10 have drivers for d-link dwl-122
[10:06] <LittleBoot> Try to just su , I think it has to do with the path
[10:06] <Necrosan> its a usb wifi card
[10:06] <mwe> slashx1896: and you put the kaid binary in / ?
[10:06] <slashx1896> i have all the files in afolder on my desktop
[10:06] <mwe> slashx1896: sure it'e supposed to be ./kaid
[10:06] <HaiKarate> slashx1896 : maybe it said something like ./kaid ...
[10:06] <slashx1896> yea
[10:06] <slashx1896> thats it
[10:07] <slashx1896> ./kaid -c kaid.conf
[10:07] <e_machinist> Is there a photo editing program similar to iPhoto or Picasa for Linux?
[10:07] <mwe> slashx1896: then cd to where it's located and type that instead
[10:07] <slashx1896> ok
[10:07] <HaiKarate> slashx1896 : mind the period there then...it is important
[10:07] <phanter> hello, can you tell me if there is a small gnome tool which enables me to easily and quickly change the keyboard layout?
[10:07] <shrike_00> e_machinist: gimp
[10:07] <e_machinist> haha, not the gimp silly.
[10:07] <slashx1896> KAID: your not root sorry
[10:08] <e_machinist> One that is easy enough my wife could use it (since I don't allow Windows on this computer).
[10:08] <e_machinist> Gimp is a little over her head admittedly.
[10:08] <mwe> e_machinist: gimp is great IMO if you don't like it I think you about out of options unless you want something simpler
[10:08] <slashx1896> Whats it mean im not on root?
[10:08] <Necrosan> we gon ride, forever stuntin while the pops roll dro, wwoooooaahaho
[10:08] <e_machinist> mwe: I love the GIMP, use it everyday... doesn't mean my wife is capable of doing so though.
[10:08] <ompaul> !tell slashx1896 about root
[10:09] <mwe> e_machinist: to complicated or what?
[10:09] <ompaul> slashx1896, read the message from the bot ubotu
[10:09] <slashx1896> i did
[10:09] <ompaul> follow the link :)
[10:09] <slashx1896> lol will do
[10:09] <butcherbird> e_machinist: maybe digikam?
[10:09] <mwe> e_machinist: there's krita for kde. it's more simple
[10:10] <e_machinist> mwe: simply to complicated for her. I need to find something where she can just, acquire, edit.. print... haha.
[10:10] <slashx1896> also one other thing, how do i change my default web browser?
[10:10] <mwe> e_machinist: I don't know the programs you mentioned
[10:10] <joeljkp> so i'm sitting here at work with some free time; any suggestions on projects i can hack on? solaris 8
[10:10] <e_machinist> mwe: I'll check that out.
[10:10] <e_machinist> butcherbird: I'll check that as well.
[10:10] <TodoDoc> moin
[10:10] <slashx1896> firefox isnt a lil messed up for me, so i wanna change my default brower to epiphany
[10:11] <TodoDoc> Hat sich nix gendert, die Leute auf dem Debian Chanel halten sich immer noch fr die Grten
[10:11] <slashx1896> is*
[10:11] <vodnik> great, so it is only a matter of adding a repository and installing new stuff on live cd...
[10:12] <mwe> slashx1896: tried the looking around in the menus? it's there somewhere. I don't use gnome so I can't tell you where exactly
[10:12] <bshumate> e_machinist: f-spot is a good iPhoto workalike for gnu/linux
[10:12] <malefestra> anyone able to give me a bit of help for running a script on startup?
[10:12] <e_machinist> bshumate: thanks, I will check that out!
[10:12] <slashx1896> ompaul: is root just sudo?
[10:12] <slashx1896> ok
[10:13] <kcantin> hello
[10:13] <malefestra> I wrote wificlient.sh to bring up my pcmcia card and connect to my wireless network (using madwifi drivers) and it works well and all.
[10:13] <malefestra> But the script needs to be run as root
[10:13] <cvt|kde> i'm copying a folder that is only 64mB on a cd but it's copying more than 85mB so far and it says 100% but it keeps copying. know why?
[10:13] <mwe> malefestra: you can put the path into /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[10:13] <e_machinist> bshumate: wow, f-spot might be exactly what I need for her to do her photo stuff on Linux instead of Windows. Mwahahaha.
[10:13] <bshumate> e_machinist: it's still early in dev, but looks promising: http://www.gnome.org/projects/f-spot/
[10:13] <malefestra> mwe - i did that, and also to /etc/rc5.d
[10:14] <malefestra> a symlink, to /etc/rc5.d that is
[10:14] <mwe> malefestra: good
[10:14] <e_machinist> bshumate: yah, I
[10:14] <mwe> malefestra: so?
[10:14] <malefestra> but it won't run correctly, as it doesn't run as root when i put it there
[10:14] <kcantin> can anyone help me setup my print server for an hpdeskjet 960c?
[10:14] <mwe> malefestra: it should
[10:14] <e_machinist> bshumate: I'll give it a try. (Oops on enter)
[10:14] <slashx1896> hey whats the command so i can watch something i did on hte terminal?
[10:14] <malefestra> i get the same error message as i would when i try to run it as a non-root user.
[10:14] <cvt|kde> in my ftp client i can't find the desktop folder. why is that?
[10:14] <slashx1896> cause it said something , now its not doing anything but it hasnt started a new prompt or w/e
[10:15] <kcantin> the client is a windows 2000 box
[10:15] <gee_gee> hi all
[10:15] <kcantin> hello
[10:15] <mwe> kcantin: samba is probably what you're looking for. there is wiki
[10:15] <ulisse> hello tribe
[10:16] <gee_gee> i have a certain problem with my current version of ubuntu (dapper drake)
[10:16] <gee_gee> it wont boot anymore because there are some syntax errors in /etc/init.d/rc
[10:16] <davey> well that was silly
[10:16] <bshumate> e_machinist: it is very raw though right now...may not be usable at this point :-(
[10:16] <davey> gee_gee, insert a livecd and mount it and edit it
[10:16] <gee_gee> i didnt modify it :(
[10:16] <ulisse> anybody knows about gnome-panel crashing continuoisly in breezy?
[10:16] <gee_gee> yep thats my prob... dont have a live cd...
[10:17] <davey> gee_gee, time to download one... :)
[10:17] <e_machinist> bshumate: hmm, after I get this source compiled I'll see... if it isn't stable then definitely not good for the wife. Heh.
[10:17] <flannel> hi can anyone give a newb some help?
[10:17] <davey> I can mail you one, but it'll take about a week to .de (which is where I think you are - if not, oh well)
[10:17] <gee_gee> hmmm.... would take ages. isnt there another possible way?
[10:18] <mwe> gee_gee: if you don't know how to fix problems don't use alfa releases
[10:18] <gee_gee> argh...
[10:18] <flannel> I have downloaded 2 of the 64bit install disks but both have hung whilst setting up primary installation repository
[10:18] <davey> gee_gee, what filesystem do you use?
[10:18] <gee_gee> ext3
[10:18] <davey> gee_gee, OK, you are in windows, right?
[10:18] <mike-e> !source-o-matic
[10:18] <ubotu> mike-e: I give up, what is it?
[10:18] <mike-e> !repositories
[10:18] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:18] <slashx1896> it just says , KAID: Kai engine for linux has started..., and its been like that for 5 minutes... does anyone know if it probbaly is gonna take a while to do  or its frozen or something
[10:18] <gee_gee> (and i know how to fix it, the problem is to access the disk)
[10:18] <gee_gee> yup
[10:18] <mike-e> !easysource
[10:18] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:18] <cvt|kde> how do i send files in gftp?
[10:19] <cvt|kde> there's no copy paste option
[10:19] <davey> OK, gee_gee, google for one of the ext2/3 filesystem drivers, then you *might* be able to at least move the file out of the init.d directory so it can boot
[10:19] <unl3ss> mwe: You still around?
[10:19] <mwe> unl3ss: yeah
[10:19] <gee_gee> hm... sounds good. didnt get that idea. ill try that out.
[10:20] <unl3ss> mwe: Well, I've been trying to point it to the right menu directory
[10:20] <davey> http://www.fs-driver.org/ <--- try that one gee_gee
[10:20] <flannel> anyone...?  I would love to start playing with linux and really liked the look of ubuntu
[10:20] <mwe> davey: do you think it will boot without rc?
[10:20] <mwe> unl3ss: yes
[10:20] <gee_gee> davey: thx... ill have a look.
[10:21] <unl3ss> mwe: And it looks like /usr/share/menu is the right one... but when I do that and reboot fluxbox, it won't even start
[10:21] <bshumate> flannel: you may want to try burning the image to disc at a very slow speed, e.g. 4x
[10:21] <mwe> unl3ss: it's not the one
[10:21] <flannel> ok...  I have one cd left... :(
[10:21] <mwe> unl3ss: /home/unl3ss/.fluxbox/fluxbox-menu is what you want
[10:21] <Battlestar> hmm can anyone help me get the screen to display right...
[10:22] <Battlestar> when i boot into ubuntu
[10:22] <woodgrain> ompaul, yeah I know.  I queried it, but nothing then butcherbird gave me the right answer -- how do I add it to the bot?
[10:22] <flannel> it is wierd coz it looks like it is just finalising a couple of things but bang... it stops
[10:22] <flannel> funny how it is 2 disks
[10:22] <unl3ss> mwe: Alright, I'll try that again, thanks
[10:22] <fusionfox> i recently updated to Breezy, and i cannot open a Root terminal, already tried su command but i dont got a root password.. what can i do??
[10:22] <Battlestar> the screen is beyond the boundries of my LCd screen
[10:22] <Battlestar> and it overlaps itself
[10:22] <bshumate> flannel: yeah, sometimes weird borks during the install like that can be solved by making a disc at a slower speed...believe it, or not! ;-)
[10:22] <Battlestar> the bottom is at the top and the top is at the bottow
[10:22] <Battlestar> *bottom
[10:23] <flannel> bshumate: thanks, will go and try now
[10:23] <bshumate> !tell fusionfox about rootsudo
[10:23] <Battlestar> i already spent 4 or 5 hours early this morning fixing this problem
[10:23] <butcherbird> flannel: could aways order a cd :)
[10:23] <Battlestar> if i can't fix it soon i'm just gonna format and give up
[10:24] <gee_gee> davey: it works fine. thank you very much!
[10:24] <keyhack> Is there a package for MySQL 5?
[10:24] <bshumate> flannel: yeah, you can order pressed cdroms for free!
[10:24] <davey> gee_gee, it does work? cool, Will have to try it out
[10:24] <flannel> last disk... if that fails I may order
[10:24] <cvt|kde> how does ftp work?
[10:24] <bshumate> !tell flannel about shipit
[10:24] <flannel> I had a look at it...
[10:24] <mwe> cvt|kde: by transferring files between hosts
[10:24] <flannel> how long does it take
[10:24] <gee_gee> yup, really fine. no im gonig to make that baby boot again *g*
[10:24] <flannel> I may order one anyway :D
[10:24] <davey> keyhack, sudo apt-get install postgresql - its the deluxe version ;)
[10:25] <unl3ss> mwe: Thanks heaps! It's working perfectly
[10:25] <keyhack> davey: Uhuh... ;-)
[10:25] <cvt|kde> mwe, where is the copy/paste drag/drop feature in an ftp client or how is that done?
[10:25] <scapor> Is there a known problem with teh initscripts in dapper ? my box doesn't boot anymore .. give's errors on /etc/init.d/rc .. like "line 158 * 2: syntax error operand expected error token is "* 2" etc
[10:25] <mwe> unl3ss: great
[10:25] <Battlestar> oh and if it helps anyone who is trying to help me... i got a while lot of "can't find file" errors on startup, they all seem to be video config files
[10:25] <keyhack> davey: I'm compiling on a slow machine, thats why I asked if there is already one out there (apparently not from my rough Googline)
[10:25] <keyhack> g*
[10:25] <slashx1896> What application is used to run exexcutable files?
[10:26] <mwe> slashx1896: bash
[10:26] <errr> I updated my kernel from 2.6.12-9 to 2.6.12-10  and my nvidia stopped working:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114724  <== here is what I have tried doing to this point, Im having no luck, any one able to offer up some support?
[10:26] <SirKillalot> how do I find out which program eats my whole bandwidth?
[10:26] <flannel> bshumate: is 8x slow enough?
[10:26] <slashx1896> i dont see bash
[10:26] <scapor> slashx1896: an executable file is an application itself .. click on it in your filemanager, of run it with bash
[10:26] <flannel> is a slow as my writer goes
[10:26] <slashx1896> i prob dont have it..
[10:26] <kcantin> Ok, I am looking at the wiki docs but, I can't find any drivers or support for setting up a print server
[10:26] <scapor> slashx1896: what executable do you want to run ?N
[10:27] <mwe> slashx1896: of course you do but you don't understand how linux works
[10:27] <slashx1896> Kaid.. its a file for a program im getting
[10:27] <gee_gee> im off. should be booting again. thanks again very much!
[10:27] <mwe> slashx1896: you don't use a program to run a program you just run the program
[10:27] <Manifold> Guys.
[10:27] <slashx1896> it wont let me...
[10:27] <theine> Manifold
[10:28] <Manifold> Does Ubuntu support Asian Language keyboard input?
[10:28] <bpuccio> anyone here have GPRS working on their Ubuntu box?
[10:28] <lsuactiafner> bash is an interface to the kernel/brain of linux/operating system
[10:28] <theine> Slackwise, what does it say?
[10:28] <HaiKarate> scapor: syntax error in support.sh line 10: lsb_release: expecting "Breeezy Badger" but got "Dapper Drake" ;-)
[10:28] <mwe> slashx1896: what exactly are you trying to do?
[10:28] <theine> Slackwise, sorry... I meant slash...
[10:28] <ubuntu_> to much ??????????????///
[10:28] <theine> slashx1896, what does it say?
[10:28] <scapor> HaiKarate: I think I found the bug
[10:28] <scapor> HaiKarate: :)
[10:28] <Battlestar> so can no one help me?
[10:28] <slashx1896> theine: nothing ahppens
[10:28] <slashx1896> happens*
[10:28] <ubuntu_> what is it
[10:28] <slashx1896> mwe: run a program called xlink kai,
[10:28] <lsuactiafner> Bash  is  an sh-compatible command language interpreter that executes commands read from the standard input
[10:29] <CanYouHelpMePlz> if i install kubuntu desktop, on ubuntu i can just choose between it and gnome in session right?
[10:29] <mwe> slashx1896: is it installed and how are you trying to run it?
[10:29] <ompaul> woodgrain, can I message you
[10:29] <Mithsir> Hello! I have replaced a module in /lib/modules with a custom one. Now ubuntu says "module already loaded" during boot and somehow the old module is loaded. but how? does ubuntu load modules from the initrd?
[10:29] <theine> slashx1896, do you know how to work the command line?
[10:29] <slashx1896> http://www.teamxlink.co.uk
[10:29] <bshumate> flannel: should be...if that doesn't work, then it may be hardware glitches which could possibly be worked around by using kernel parameters at boot time prior to installing...
[10:29] <scapor> HaiKarate: progress_size=$(((100 - $PROGRESS_STATE) / 3)) is in an if statement .. so it's not declared before if teat if isn't fulfilled
[10:29] <ompaul> CanYouHelpMePlz, you should be able to yes
[10:29] <scapor> HaiKarate: should I report it somewhere ?
[10:29] <flannel> bshumate: sounds a little complex
[10:29] <butcherbird> Manifold:  see wiki.ubuntu.com but i believe yes
[10:29] <lsuactiafner> Mithsir : put the new module where the old one is currently, locate old_module
[10:30] <slashx1896> mwe: im not sure.. the read me said to to ./kaid -h kaid.conf, and i did that in terminal. and it said some stuff then said KAID: kai engine for linux has started
[10:30] <bshumate> flannel: hopefully it is just the disc...
[10:30] <flannel> was kinda hoping for a nice easy install
[10:30] <Manifold> What should I search for, butcherbird?
[10:30] <slashx1896> theine, yes and no
[10:30] <flannel> yes... hopefully
[10:30] <scapor> HaiKarate: cus it generates the errors the next time it does progress_size=$(($progress_size * 2)) becuase $progress_size is NULL
[10:30] <slashx1896> theine, i kinda do
[10:30] <lsuactiafner> Mithsir : also, you could lsmod then rmmod module and insmod /path/new_one
[10:30] <woodgrain> ompaul, heck yeah!
[10:30] <moret> please help, I can't execute applets in any browser (Konqueror, Firefox), I get the following message: kjas: ERROR: could not parse length out of
[10:30] <scapor> HaiKarate: ?
[10:30] <HaiKarate> scapor : that was a joke.  Dapper is not a supported release homey, so you should not expect everything to work in it yet. ;-)
[10:30] <butcherbird> Manifold: scroll down to languages section of main page
[10:30] <flannel> have never delved too deep with linux before but am looking forward to it
[10:30] <flannel> would like to ditch windows as much as possible...
[10:31] <lsuactiafner> moret : its not the browser's fault, its the programmer of the java applet that screwed up
[10:31] <theine> slashx1896, perhaps that's not even necessary. how do you actually try to run the program?
[10:31] <bshumate> flannel: Ubuntu is a great distribution to begin delving into!
[10:31] <mwe> slashx1896: so it is doing something I don't know what kai is but it's running. you say it said kai engine started
[10:31] <lsuactiafner> moret : contact the programmer and tell him to fix his program
[10:31] <moret> lsuactiafner: oh thanks
[10:31] <Manifold> o_O
[10:31] <Battlestar> ok....
[10:31] <flannel> and run a true 64bit os
[10:31] <slashx1896> mwe: and that it still says that. it hasnt said anything esle or start a new prompt
[10:31] <boxy> hey gnome takes forever to load i tryed installing alsa and that didn't work but with esd disabled gnome loaded like it was nothing, any ideas?
[10:31] <Manifold> I can only make out 10% of that.
[10:31] <Battlestar> is anyone gonna help me with my video problem or not?
[10:31] <boxy> bshumate, and all linux uses for that matter too :P
[10:31] <slashx1896> Theine, the readme said to do that, and to run the actual program i just double click the file, or right click and hit open
[10:31] <CanYouHelpMePlz> flannel: ubuntu 64bit is not very good, because of poor programs
[10:31] <Manifold> It's for my mum. I'm not totally fluent in reading Cantonese, only listening and speaking.
[10:31] <Mithsir> the funny thing is: after boot, if I do a "modprobe -r usbhid" and then "modprobe usbhid" the correct module is loaded...
[10:31] <flannel> what are the image manipulation appz like on linux?
[10:31] <mwe> slashx1896: I don't know that program. what is it supposed to do?
[10:31] <lsuactiafner> Battlestar : ppl will help you when they know an answer
[10:32] <flannel> are they even close to photoshop?
[10:32] <theine> slashx1896, I tried to run it in a terminal and it needs root privileges
[10:32] <flannel> soz if that is a crap question
[10:32] <derrick> somebody that me can offer a CD of ubuntu?
[10:32] <slashx1896> sudo ./kaid -c kaid.conf
[10:32] <Mithsir> lsuactiafner, so I seem to have that module replaced correctly. but somehow another module is loaded that I cannot find...
[10:32] <boxy> derrick shipit.ubuntu.com
[10:32] <Mithsir> so I assumed it's in the initrd.
[10:32] <theine> slashx1896, open up a terminal, go to the directory where you unpacked kaid and type "sudo ./kaid"
[10:33] <butcherbird> Manifold: sorry dunno maybe see http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[10:33] <Battlestar> well i just tried forcing the resolution to 800x600 but surprise surprise the problem just gets worse
[10:33] <Battlestar> all i see is a white blur on my screen
[10:33] <theine> slashx1896, if you think that application can be trusted that is...
[10:33] <Battlestar> so it's gotta be refresh rate
[10:33] <mwe> theine: he did and it said it started, but he missed that
[10:33] <lsuactiafner> Mithsir : you sude the problem has anything to do with the module in question?
[10:33] <errr> I updated my kernel from 2.6.12-9 to 2.6.12-10  and my nvidia stopped working:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114724  <== here is what I have tried doing to this point, Im having no luck, any one able to offer up some support?
[10:33] <slashx1896> yeah it can be.. i have friends who use it
[10:33] <slashx1896> and..
[10:33] <slashx1896> i did that and it said it cant find the conf file
[10:33] <boxy> errrr i had that problem yesterday
[10:33] <mwe> boxy: me too
[10:33] <errr> boxy: how do you solve it?
[10:33] <nerochiaro> i'm trying to setup ubuntu, but while it tries to install the base system it says that it can't find a valid kernel. could it be my installation media that's faulty, or any other idea ?
[10:33] <boxy> errr, i finally got it fixed though can you apt-get install nvidia-glx ?
[10:33] <bshumate> flannel: The Gimp is fairly close to Photoshop in some respects, and actually more advanced in others (built-in scripting language for example) it is definitely a re-learn however, as while Gimp is similar to Photoshop, they do not have the same "feel" at all really...
[10:34] <shrike_00> what is the difference between the regular ubuntu and ubuntu server release
[10:34] <lsuactiafner> Battlestar : edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf find the line with sync, should be two lines
[10:34] <errr> boxy: did you read that link.. it explains everything I have done (yes I have btw)
[10:34] <slashx1896> When its cleary in hte kaid folder
[10:34] <e_machinist> Uhh, error message "C Compiler cannot create executables.. anyone know how to remedy this?
[10:34] <lsuactiafner> Battlestar : then restart X with control alt backspace and dont panic
[10:34] <slashx1896> and i did do a cd to the folder
[10:34] <mwe> shrike_00: the desktop is not installed on server install is one difference
[10:34] <anonee> anyone got any advice for a linux newbie about how to get my soundcard working?
[10:34] <boxy> errr to be honest i dont now exactly how i fixed it but i can help one sec lemme ready that
[10:34] <theine> slashx1896, then "sudo ./kaid -c kaid.conf"
[10:34] <Manifold> Thanks, butcherbird, just what I needed.
[10:34] <Battlestar> yea but i don't know what vsync values to edit it to
[10:34] <Mithsir> lsuactiafner, well, i have prepared a new usbhid that supports my wacom tablet...
[10:34] <lsuactiafner> errr : you need to recompile the nvidia driver module
[10:34] <theine> slashx1896, did you try that?
[10:34] <slashx1896> i did that already
[10:34] <slashx1896> b4
[10:35] <Battlestar> this screen is in an ibook G3 laptop
[10:35] <errr> lsuactiafner: I never compiled it to being with, how do I do that?
[10:35] <boxy> errr can you modprobe nvidia
[10:35] <Manifold> Can anyone tell me why my middle button doesn't close tabs in firefox anymore?
[10:35] <slashx1896> hold on il show u on the paste bin what happens
[10:35] <Battlestar> there is no support on compatibility of the screen
[10:35] <lsuactiafner> errr : i make my own kernels and nvidia module so not sure what the ubuntu way is
[10:35] <Battlestar> other than default res is 800x600
[10:35] <mwe> !tell anonee about sound
[10:35] <flannel> bshumate: I can learn ;-)
[10:35] <errr> lsuactiafner: yes Im used to that from gentoo, now this ubuntu way is starting to get frustrating
[10:35] <lsuactiafner> errr : try whatever you do to get nvdia installed in the first place and then --reinstall
[10:35] <flannel> nothing ever has the same feel these days... always something new to learn
[10:35] <Manifold> Man.
[10:36] <Manifold> ALL the Quakenet servers are down.
[10:36] <slashx1896> theine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6854
[10:36] <boxy> errr can you modprobe nvidia
[10:36] <shrike_00> mwe: is the ubuntu server install and recent release of ubuntu server distro the same?
[10:36] <errr> boxy: yes that went off with out hitch
[10:36] <lsuactiafner> errr : its not a developer's OS like gentoo or slackware, annoyed the living hell out of me, but i think ubuntu is nice, i use it
[10:36] <theine> slashx1896, looks fine, no?
[10:36] <slashx1896> yeah.. but what do i do after that
[10:36] <lsuactiafner> errr : if you tweak ubuntu enough to suit what you have come acustomed to it works well
[10:36] <errr> lsuactiafner: after 2 1/2 years of compileing I just got fed up with waiting
[10:36] <mwe> shrike_00: the installation runs a server install if you type server at the first prompt
[10:37] <Mithsir> lsuactiafner, do you have any idea where the usbhid that is loaded first comes from?
[10:37] <errr> boxy: now this mod is loaded Ill try restarting X
[10:37] <slashx1896> It still says that, no other prompt or w/e
[10:37] <lsuactiafner> errr : not sure what the ubuntu way is to reinstall the correct module but there has to be a wya to do it
[10:37] <theine> slashx1896, I never used kaid (I don't even know what it actually is), so I'm afraid I can't help you with that
[10:37] <lsuactiafner> ubotu tell errr about nvidia
[10:37] <slashx1896> :\
[10:37] <boxy> errr, kay
[10:37] <boxy> btw anyone know where xorgconfig is?
[10:37] <butcherbird> /etc/X11
[10:37] <spacey_ki>  /etc/X11?
[10:37] <slashx1896> Well its a thing like irc.. with arenas so u can play games on psp, xbox,psp,gamecube, online
[10:38] <Manifold> Can anyone tell me why my middle button doesn't close tabs in firefox anymore?
[10:38] <lsuactiafner> Mithsir : i think its probably a module related to usbhid, am not sure, dont think initrd changes will help you
[10:38] <slashx1896> my friend told me about it, but he cant help me casue he has windows
[10:38] <Manifold> I upgraded Firefox to 1.5
[10:38] <boxy> butcherbird, no its a tool. call xorgconfig
[10:38] <boxy> butcherbird, it's suppose to come packages with xorg but odviously not in ubuntu
[10:38] <theine> slashx1896, my guess is that it runs properly though, the 'd' in 'kaid' probably indicates that it is a daemon and what you posted is quite normal behaviour for a daemon.
[10:38] <errr> boxy: wow nvidia loaded..
[10:38] <boxy> errr work now?
[10:38] <butcherbird> boxy: maybe you want sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[10:38] <lsuactiafner> boxy : yeh i used it in slackware, ubuntu has some apt-get command for it, forgot it...
[10:38] <moret> mailto:info@juegon.com?subject=INFO JUEGON
[10:38] <Mithsir> lsuactiafner, but how can there be a module loaded that I overwrote?
[10:38] <mwe> boxy: use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg instaed
[10:38] <errr> yeah
[10:39] <lsuactiafner> boxy : i'll try find it
[10:39] <moret> I have installed amaroK, but it is in english...
[10:39] <moret> how can I set it in my lang?
[10:39] <lsuactiafner> boxy : that one mwe said :)
[10:39] <errr> boxy: I hope I dont have to modprobe every time..
[10:39] <mwe> Manifold: maybe you need to update your extensions or something
[10:39] <Mithsir> I mean, I looked at the sizes in lsmod, they differ (before and after modprobe -r usbhid and modprobe usbhid)
[10:39] <boxy> errr you can add it to a file one sec
[10:39] <flannel> bshumate: wish me luck... here goes again
[10:39] <slashx1896> yeah it is
[10:39] <shrike_00> mwe: I know. I am talking about the server install listed at http://mirror.ovh.net/ftp.ubuntu.com/releases/
[10:39] <flannel> have ordered from ship it just in case this doesnt work
[10:40] <Battlestar> so any more suggestions on how i could fix the video?
[10:40] <flannel> bye.....
[10:40] <sethk> Mithsir, so, yes, they are different versions of the same module as you suggested
[10:40] <Manifold> mwe, "no updates were found for your extensions" Besides, this function should be inbuilt into Firefox, it shouldn't be extension dependant.
[10:40] <e_machinist> Does anyone know why the "C Compiler cannot create executables"? I'll admit I've run into many a compile problem... but not this one.
[10:40] <lsuactiafner> Mithsir : if you made a module you should be able to make your own kernel and skip the initrd thing kinda
[10:40] <ULffuntu> hi anybody here old world mac / ubuntu ppc?
[10:40] <mwe> Manifold: I guess you could file a bug report then
[10:40] <lsuactiafner> e_machinist : just to make sure, is gcc installed?
[10:41] <boxy> errr, echo nvidia >> /etc/modules
[10:41] <theine> e_machinist, install the build-essential package
[10:41] <lsuactiafner> gcc -v
[10:41] <e_machinist> lsuactiafner: yah
[10:41] <boxy> or use your fav. text editor and add nvidia to the bottom of /etc/modules
[10:41] <e_machinist> theine: will do.
[10:41] <Manifold> mwe, in fact, my middle button opens up my last accessed web page.
[10:42] <sethk> Mithsir, the only time you have to worry about initrd (for a module) is if the module is needed early in the bootstrap process.  That usually means a file system driver.
[10:42] <Manifold> Regardless of whether it's the tab or not.
[10:42] <drtydr> why does this keep comming up??? help?? plaese??root@ubuntu:/home/bob# check.sh
[10:42] <drtydr> -bash: check.sh: command not found
[10:42] <sethk> Mithsir, a video driver is certainly not needed in initrd, although putting it there won't hurt either.
[10:42] <Mithsir> lsuactiafner, I dont want to do the work of rebuilding the whole kernel.
[10:42] <drtydr> root@ubuntu:/home/bob# ./check.sh
[10:42] <drtydr> -bash: ./check.sh: Permission denied
[10:42] <sethk> Mithsir, you don't need to rebuild the kernel.  but that's orthogonal to any issue with initrd
[10:42] <mwe> Manifold: if you can't find any settings for it and creating a new profile doesn't fix it and you know for sure it should work like that, file a bug is all I can say
[10:42] <theine> drtydr, did you do "chmod +x ./check.sh"
[10:43] <theine> ?
[10:43] <Manifold> Okies, mwe
[10:43] <drtydr> nope
[10:43] <Mithsir> seth, I am using the initrd image from breezy... the module in question is usbhid. How can I check if thats in the initrd?
[10:43] <theine> drtydr, do that and try again
[10:43] <Stormx2> Hey all
[10:43] <Stormx2> Been on windows for about a week >_<
[10:43] <sethk> Mithsir, you can list the files in the initrd.  do you know how or do you need instructions?
[10:43] <slashx1896> theine, what does it mean that its a daemon file
[10:43] <Stormx2> Still when I get a new monitor I'll coup with GNOME ;-)
[10:43] <Telemachus> shrike_00: Have a look here http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051215-5777.html
[10:43] <Mithsir> seth, I don't know how.
[10:44] <lsuactiafner> Mithsir : just an idea, boot with nousb or something like that and check if you can insert your module before the other one is loaded?
[10:44] <sethk> Mithsir, the initrd is compressed with gzip.  So:  copy the initrd file somewhere, rename it to whatever.gz, run gunzip on it, then run cpio --list < initrd.filename
[10:44] <errr> boxy: it was already there. I rebooted to make sure it would work fine, I guess I should have known this part would have been the same as gentoo but I figured that when I did the reinstalls of the driver it would modprobe for me.. lesson learned, and thanks for the help
[10:44] <sethk> Mithsir, easier...
[10:44] <theine> slashx1896, http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=daemon
[10:44] <sethk> Mithsir, you can gunzip it to standard out and pipe that to cpio --list
[10:45] <lsuactiafner> its weird that nvidia module aint loaded on xstart
[10:45] <ULffuntu> hi anybody here old world mac / ubuntu ppc?
[10:45] <Mithsir> seth, thanks!
[10:45] <slashx1896> oh so its justgonna sit idely.?
[10:45] <shrike_00> Telemachus: thx
[10:45] <sethk> Mithsir, if you wish to look at the actual file, instead of just the name, you can use cpio to extract the files
[10:45] <Mithsir> seth, the module is in there. how can I overwrite that?
[10:45] <Mithsir> seth, I suppose I can overwrite the file inside that archive. can you tell me how`
[10:45] <Mithsir> ?
[10:45] <sethk> Mithsir, you extract all the files into a directory, copy in the new one, and then use cpio to create a new archive.  Then you gzip it and copy it into /boot
[10:46] <theine> slashx1896, at least up to a point where someone communicates to the daemon through a client program
[10:46] <e_machinist> Anybody know of some little known but well developed Distributions?
[10:46] <drtydr> what am i suppost to tell chmod to do?
[10:46] <slashx1896> ?
[10:46] <lsuactiafner> sethk : should he update his bootmanager grub/lilo after that?
[10:46] <linh> hi
[10:46] <drtydr> -c -f -v -r
[10:46] <sethk> lsuactiafner, only if he changes the initrd file name
[10:46] <theine> drtydr, -x
[10:46] <linh> do you know what is the link for 5.10 source apt list mirror?
[10:46] <theine> drtydr, sorry
[10:46] <theine> drtydr, +x
[10:47] <Stormx2> w00tar c0mputar! I found a book on C Programming =D
[10:47] <lsuactiafner> ubotu tell linh about repos
[10:47] <slashx1896> theine, what do u mean through a client program? so its gonna sit idely untill i run the kaid exe file?
[10:47] <ompaul> shrike_00, there are several different packages different between the two at the end of the day you can install all the same stuff, but there are more server things on the server CD like [don't laugh]   UUCP is on the server one but you would need to take a look at the pool directory on both
[10:47] <theine> slashx1896, probably
[10:47] <mips> Help, anybody here with pptp vpn knowledge ?
[10:47] <slashx1896> which it wont let me run..
[10:47] <slashx1896> just great lol
[10:47] <drtydr> works thanks. one more thing what does +x actually do
[10:47] <lsuactiafner> easysource rocks
[10:47] <theine> drtydr, it makes the file executable
[10:48] <CanYouHelpMePlz> does xmms work on KDE ?
[10:48] <drtydr> thanks for the help (*-*)
[10:48] <slashx1896> =\
[10:48] <kill9> hi, I've just recompiled kernel 2.6.14-5 on my box using make-kpkg - when i try boot the kernel I get "ALERT!" /dev/sda5 does not exist.  Dropping to shell! Im using reiserfs, which ive built in aswell as my sata driver... any ideas?
[10:48] <lsuactiafner> drtydr : you can use sh file.sh also, but +x is permanent
[10:48] <kcantin> I already have my hpdeskjet setup on ubuntu locally however, I need to setup it up this machine as a print server.  Can anyone help?
[10:48] <mwe> ompaul: I thought UUCP hadn't been used since like the 70's or something :)
[10:48] <theine> drtydr, try "ls -l check.sh", there should be a few x's in the first column which indicate that the file is executable. those were  not there before you did "chmod +x check.sh"
[10:48] <ompaul> mwe, see what thought did
[10:49] <mwe> ompaul: he's a buggar
[10:49] <_oP> hello all
[10:49] <ilba7r> !dmix
[10:49] <ubotu> dmix is, like, at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:49] <linh> how do i update from 5.04 to 5.10? :)
[10:49] <lsuactiafner> kill9 : did you configure the related options, sata driver ect as * and not M
[10:49] <theine> drtydr, see for instance "man chmod"
[10:49] <slashx1896> i posted a question o he teamxlink fourm.. hope they help
[10:49] <slashx1896> since no one out of the 50 people talk..
[10:49] <kill9> lsuactiafner: yeah
[10:49] <slashx1896> well i gtg bbl
[10:49] <_marius_> How do I logg onto root?
[10:49] <_oP> @linh why u want to update , i say never touch a running system
[10:50] <greenpenguin13> linh, change all references to breezy to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:50] <shrike_00> ompaul: thx
[10:50] <ompaul> shrike_00, np
[10:50] <lsuactiafner> kill9 : check that your bootmanager, probably grub is configured correctly, i use lilo so cant help you
[10:50] <linh> thanks
[10:50] <butcherbird> linh: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list then replace all instances of hoary with breezy save and quit and type sudo apt-get update then type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:50] <_marius_> How do I logg onto root in ubuntu?
[10:51] <greenpenguin13> sudo bash
[10:51] <linh> thank you butcherbird
[10:51] <nerochiaro> so, no one has any idea on why the installation gives me the error message "no valid kernel found" ?
[10:51] <lsuactiafner> _marius_ : sudo su
[10:51] <drtydr> ummm what do I do about this You are either not running this script from the console
[10:51] <drtydr> or simply do not have console ownership.  Requirement failed.
[10:51] <drtydr> Unable to determine XFree86 Version. Stopping now.
[10:51] <butcherbird> linh: maybe it works maybe you end up with a paperweight..good luck man
[10:51] <mwe> _marius_: you don't logon as root
[10:51] <Battlestar> how and where do i enter kernel arguments?
[10:51] <mwe> _marius_: you can use sudo -i to get a root prompt
[10:51] <vermoos> _marius_: type sudo passwd root to set your su password (if you havn't already done so)
[10:52] <mwe> vermoos: please don't recommend that
[10:52] <lsuactiafner> _marius_ : ubuntu ppl prefer ppl not to run as root, but if you make kernels ect like me just enable it and get it over with
[10:52] <mwe> vermoos: it's disabled for a reason
[10:52] <Manifold> Ah, fixed it, thanks anyway, mwe
[10:52] <greenpenguin13> you can copy sh to ~ and chown root.root; chmod 4777 it, but taht would be a large security flaw ;-)
[10:53] <lsuactiafner> mwe : and it kinda screws ppl that do development over, gets very annoying to sudo all day whilest a root console does it better
[10:53] <vermoos> ah... so sudo is more secure... (but presumably if *you* dont at least set your own su password, someone else could?)
[10:53] <theine> drtydr, what is this script supposed to do
[10:53] <theine> ?
[10:53] <mwe> lsuactiafner: that's where sudo -i comes in handy
[10:53] <Battlestar> hmm can someone help me to find where and when i enter kernel aruments
[10:53] <Battlestar> so then i can be done with this damn graphics problem
[10:53] <vermoos> mwe: is not setting your su insecure?
[10:54] <mwe> lsuactiafner: of course it's a royal PITA to type sudo all day if you need to work as root
[10:54] <drtydr> its suppost to tell you which version of XFree86 you have
[10:54] <lsuactiafner> Battlestar : when you boot the pc up and grub for permanent options
[10:54] <mwe> vermoos: what's that?
[10:54] <_marius_> is it a default preset password at the sudo?
[10:54] <theine> drtydr, have you tried running it as ordinary user?
[10:54] <lsuactiafner> drtydr : i got 11 consoles and only this one aint root
[10:54] <greenpenguin13> _marius_, its your password
[10:54] <lsuactiafner> and console 11 for x
[10:54] <vermoos> are your saying sudo is always preferable to su?
[10:54] <theine> drtydr, but you can easily find out about that through other means
[10:55] <mwe> vermoos: basically. and if you do need a root prompt, use sudo -i
[10:55] <drtydr> do tell
[10:55] <Battlestar> grub for permanent options?
[10:55] <lsuactiafner> mwe : doesnt it time out?
[10:55] <mwe> lsuactiafner: no
[10:55] <theine> drtydr, take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:55] <greenpenguin13> mwe, hey i didnt know that one :)
[10:55] <Battlestar> i don't quite get ya
[10:55] <vermoos> mwe: but if you fail to set your own su password, someone else could get root access and bypass sudo completely?
[10:55] <bpuccio> anyone here have GPRS working on their Ubuntu box?
[10:56] <mwe> vermoos: I don't follow that logic.
[10:56] <vermoos> mwe: so better to at least set your su password (even if you dont use it :) )
[10:56] <lsuactiafner> mwe : not having root annoyed me so much when i came from slackware i didnt run ubuntu for weeks
[10:56] <mwe> vermoos: how would someone gain root access to do that?
[10:56] <theine> lsuactiafner, why didn't you simply enable the root account?
[10:56] <mwe> vermoos: it only opens another potetial security hole
[10:56] <lsuactiafner> root=/bin/sh
[10:56] <lsuactiafner> heh
[10:57] <_oP> someone here, who has enlightenment E17 running, or what would u suggest? I  need more comfort under x
[10:57] <theine> lsuactiafner, what?
[10:57] <sethk> lsuactiafner, you may mean  init=/bin/sh
[10:57] <greenpenguin13> _oP, e17 is nice, but not for work :)
[10:57] <lsuactiafner> no, if you say root= then you are booted into a root console.
[10:57] <sethk> lsuactiafner, you have root access if you want it
[10:57] <greenpenguin13> crashes every 5 minutes
[10:57] <_marius_> how do I quite the sudo bash/root thing again?
[10:57] <greenpenguin13> exit
[10:57] <Battlestar> Isuactiafner, where exactly do i enter the kernel arguments, in the terminal or the boot: prompts?
[10:57] <vermoos> mwe: but all someone has to do is type "su passwd root" and set their own password, to get root access, if you didn't already do it, no?
[10:57] <sethk> _marius_, sudo -i   I think you mean
[10:57] <greenpenguin13> or Ctrl-D
[10:57] <lsuactiafner> i prefer blackbox to anything
[10:58] <myumyun> hi
[10:58] <sethk> lsuactiafner, to fluxbox?
[10:58] <lsuactiafner> Battlestar : boot prompt when grub loads
[10:58] <lsuactiafner> yeh blackbox has a nicer menu system
[10:58] <_oP> @greenpenguin13 i need something really easy to handle like windows, trying to convince a windows fan
[10:58] <_oP> :p
[10:58] <myumyun> can you help me?
[10:58] <Battlestar> ok what's grub?
[10:58] <vermoos> mwe: like if a newbe doesnt know how to use sudo, better tell them about that
[10:58] <Battlestar> and which boot prompts
[10:58] <greenpenguin13> _oP, try iceWM
[10:58] <Battlestar> there 1 that boots to the disk then another one that boots the linux kernel
[10:58] <lsuactiafner> Battlestar : if you dont know then dont do what you want to do
[10:59] <lsuactiafner> linux kernel boot prompt
[10:59] <mwe> vermoos: why I don't get you
[10:59] <_oP> @greenpenguin13 hmm, yes looks good, thank u
[10:59] <mips> anyone here know pptp ?
[10:59] <mwe> vermoos: using sudo -i is sufficient to get a root prompt
[10:59] <theine> lsuactiafner, grub is not the linux kernel boot prompt (whatever that is...)
[10:59] <Battlestar> i tried entering that command in the linux kernel boot prompts but it gave me an error
[10:59] <mwe> vermoos: how would "someone" just set the root password if you don't?
[10:59] <_oP> can i also apply this to ubuntu?
[11:00] <_oP> i guess
[11:00] <greenpenguin13> _oP, its probably easier to stick w/ gnome untill you're used to it :)
[11:00] <mwe> vermoos: "someone" would need an account there with full sudo access
[11:00] <lsuactiafner> theine : then what is it
[11:00] <vermoos> wme: actually, you are right, since you need your ordinary password to set the su... sorry for being thick
[11:00] <theine> lsuactiafner, a boot manager
[11:00] <sethk> _oP, that's usually a waste of time.  Let people who like windows use windows.
[11:00] <lsuactiafner> Battlestar : what are you trying to do?
[11:00] <_oP> @sethk never!!!
[11:00] <_oP> :)
[11:00] <Battlestar> i'm trying to reset the video mode
[11:00] <Battlestar> by using the video: kernel argument
[11:00] <keyhack> What is the partitioner program's name again?
[11:00] <myumyun> guys, can you help me?
[11:01] <_oP> da suckerz going doooownn!
[11:01] <keyhack> the console based one
[11:01] <vermoos> mwe: so its sudo -i   thanx
[11:01] <_oP> i hope!
[11:01] <Cintia> hi everybody
[11:01] <lsuactiafner> theine : bootloader command shell, but for clarity sake, linux boot loader since it loads linux on ubuntu systems
[11:01] <sethk> myumyun, only if you ask a question
[11:01] <lsuactiafner> keyhack : gparted
[11:01] <mwe> vermoos: well it's your machine. fill your own boots, but I recommend against setting the root password
[11:01] <Cintia> I need help to set my home network
[11:01] <TTilus> a problem with /etc/sudoers (i think).  I want to let everybody on my computer run mythfrontend as user mythtv by running sudo -u mythtv /usr/bin/mythfrontend.  I have added ALL     ALL=(mythtv) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/mythfrontend to my sudoers and one of two accounts has this working but another one doesnt (it asks password even, which it should not do
[11:01] <lsuactiafner> Battlestar : the video the kernel can set is for the console, dont use it
[11:01] <keyhack> lsuactiafner: I thought there was a different one other than parted
[11:01] <theine> lsuactiafner, it also loads windows, so does that make it a windows kernel boot prompt?
[11:01] <lsuactiafner> Battlestar : use the xorg.conf file to change things
[11:02] <lsuactiafner> keyhack : no idea, i used cfdisk
[11:02] <vermoos> mwe: they dont actually make that explicit in the docos that ive read
[11:02] <lsuactiafner> theine : if you load windows with it, yes
[11:02] <TTilus> that "ALL     ALL=(mythtv) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/mythfrontend" is the only line ive added
[11:02] <mwe> vermoos: maybe not.
[11:02] <theine> lsuactiafner, no
[11:02] <keyhack> Yeah, I'm getting this: "ALERT! /dev/ida/c0d0p1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!", trying to figure whats going on. This is after an Ubuntu install on a RAID array in a Compaq server.
[11:02] <Battlestar> i've tried changing the cofig a million times!!!!!
[11:03] <lsuactiafner> theine : stop being difficult, he understood me
[11:03] <Battlestar> it just isn't working
[11:03] <myumyun> I've added the digital camera to the computer which is runing Ubuntu linux, but it hasn't recognized it! I couldn't find it in the list with the given models. How can I update this list?
[11:03] <TTilus> the both users belong to same groups and are (methinks) similar in every other way too
[11:03] <Battlestar> i spent 3 hours resetting the sonfig but it didn't work
[11:03] <Battlestar> it would really help if i knew what the vsync ranges for this screen actually were
[11:03] <theine> lsuactiafner, ... and is probably confused at the same time
[11:03] <Battlestar> but no i don't
[11:03] <lsuactiafner> Battlestar : use control alt + and - (plus and minus ar far end right side of keyboard) to change resolutions
[11:04] <TTilus> still sudo asks always password for the other user and for the other does not (ever)
[11:04] <Battlestar> i really don't think it's resolutions that's the problem
[11:04] <_oP> cy all later doing good job all of u, but now i need some good old "frag them" :)
[11:04] <lsuactiafner> Battlestar : check the sticker on the back of the monitor
[11:04] <Battlestar> i've tried switching between 640x480 and 800x600
[11:04] <Battlestar> it's a laptop... there is no back of the monitor
[11:04] <greenpenguin13> :) fragging on ubuntu i hope? :D
[11:05] <lsuactiafner> Battlestar : dont know then.
[11:05] <CortoMaltese> Please, help me. I need help with kubuntu. I have made an great error. Query me. please
[11:05] <mwe> TTilus: did you use visudo to edit the config?
[11:05] <TTilus> mwe: yes
[11:05] <sethk> TTilus, the configuration that controls when sudo asks for passwords is in /etc/sudoers.  You edit that file using the command  visudo
[11:05] <TTilus> every time
[11:05] <mwe> TTilus: good
[11:05] <Battlestar> hmm and that change resultion thing doesn't do anything
[11:05] <Battlestar> well doesn't appear to anyways
[11:05] <TTilus> sethk: thats what ive done
[11:05] <TTilus> that "ALL     ALL=(mythtv) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/mythfrontend" is the only line ive added
[11:06] <sethk> CortoMaltese, that's not how things work here, usually.  you'll get the best results by asking the question where everyone can see it.
[11:06] <lsuactiafner> CortoMaltese : nobody will send a private msg, you have to ask in this channel and someone might help you if they feel like it and know the answer
[11:06] <zeromod> greets
[11:06] <zeromod> ok i have a simple question
[11:06] <CortoMaltese> ok
[11:06] <zeromod> i have a ssh connection between two hoary machines
[11:06] <sethk> TTilus, ok, so that controls one program, when run with a particular user alias.
[11:06] <theine> TTilus, /usr/bin/mythfrontend has to be run with root privileges?
[11:06] <zeromod> and would like to move files from my tower to my laptop using ssh what command ?
[11:06] <lsuactiafner> zeromod : same counts for you, dont ask to ask or state you want to ask just ASK!
[11:06] <large2000> hi
[11:06] <TTilus> theine: not root, mythtv
[11:06] <myumyun> will you help me?
[11:07] <zeromod> ok i asked
[11:07] <lowman62> zeromod: scp
[11:07] <CortoMaltese> I have erased with kUser the root acccount. Now I am not able to re-create it. Can I?
[11:07] <lsuactiafner> zeromod : scp files user@gw:/home/user
[11:07] <zeromod> ok both home dir have same name
[11:07] <zeromod> and it keeps trying to copy to same target machine
[11:07] <TTilus> sethk: "particular user alias" ?
[11:07] <sethk> myumyun, first place to check is in the kernel configuration.  Check in the USB sections, look for your camera
[11:07] <simonvc> hi all, anyone know anything about hotplug, usb drives with no partitions and pmount?
[11:07] <sethk> TTilus, yes, mythtv I think you used
[11:07] <lsuactiafner> CortoMaltese : try sudo su then run passwd ?
[11:08] <CortoMaltese> yes
[11:08] <CortoMaltese> other ideas?
[11:08] <TTilus> sethk: ah, got it (just went thinking it the other way round)
[11:08] <zeromod> what about remote desktop that works any way to copy files with vnc?
[11:08] <large2000> i don't know
[11:08] <theine> zeromod, the user's home dir is accessed by user@gw: without a need for a specific path
[11:08] <lsuactiafner> CortoMaltese : or just somehow add the same entry your user has to the passwd and shadow files and change the username to root
[11:08] <sethk> zeromod, you don't need remote desktop for file transfer.  there are various ways to transfer files.
[11:09] <lowman62> zeromod: perhaps winscp using wine?
[11:09] <lsuactiafner> gw.net is the address btw
[11:09] <mwe> CortoMaltese: why on earth did you erase the root account? your system will not work without it
[11:09] <sethk> zeromod, even if the remote desktop is capable of transferring files, it is usually not the best way.
[11:09] <myumyun> In the usb section I can see it, but when I try to export the pictures from the camera the system tells me that the camera could'nt be recognized
[11:09] <zeromod> i dont even like cedega im kinda morally opposed to wine
[11:09] <zeromod> id love to get ssh to work
[11:09] <timfrost> CortoMaltese, does sudo still work?
[11:09] <sethk> CortoMaltese, you can recreate it but you'll have to boot a rescue cd.  if, in fact, you really deleted it.
[11:09] <lsuactiafner> zeromod : scp is great, i use it all the time
[11:09] <zeromod> im just having trouble specifying that i want to move it from /user/home on target to /user/home remote
[11:09] <TTilus> sethk: any idea why it works for one use and does not work for the other (asks password regardless of NOPASSWD:
[11:10] <lowman62> zeromod: beyond scp dunno...works for me :)
[11:10] <mwe> CortoMaltese: I don't think you can actually erase the root account in linux though
[11:10] <theine> zeromod, what's the name of the remote server?
[11:10] <zeromod> spitfire
[11:10] <timfrost> zeromod, what command line are you using?
[11:10] <zeromod> bash
[11:10] <sethk> TTilus, hold on, I have a phone call
[11:10] <theine> zeromod, that's it? so you can do "ping spitfire"?
[11:10] <lsuactiafner> CortoMaltese : when you boot linux, add root=/bin/sh to the grub prompt, then run passwd when you are booted up
[11:10] <zeromod> i can connect problem is..
[11:11] <myumyun> ok, thanks. I won't find any help here :-(
[11:11] <CortoMaltese> lsuaciafner:In my Pc I have two partition (windows and Linux). I windows I have modified shadow and passwd to recreate root account. It works, but the system in a not undertood way change password (root and user) e so I can enter the system, eve if there are no errors
[11:11] <sethk> TTilus, ok.  You want to enter a line for each user that you want to be able to use the program without a password
[11:11] <zeromod> both machines are same hostname and directory main user names
[11:11] <mwe> lsuactiafner: you mean init=/bin/sh I guess
[11:11] <lsuactiafner> Tue Jan 10 00:11:15 SAST 2006
[11:11] <_Saif_> i have installed xmms
[11:11] <lsuactiafner> nigt
[11:11] <sethk> TTilus, the first entry in the line is the user name.
[11:11] <mwe> lsuactiafner: I don't thing root=/bin/sh will work
[11:11] <_Saif_> now i want to install vdo player
[11:11] <zeromod> i go to cp a file and it copies to the same machine
[11:11] <lsuactiafner> _Saif_ : mplayer is best
[11:11] <sethk> TTilus, so     foo ALL = NOPASSWD: /path/to/program
[11:11] <lsuactiafner> mwe : try it
[11:11] <mwe> lsuactiafner: I don't have a device by that name at least
[11:11] <theine> zeromod, you should probably give the two machines different names
[11:11] <sethk> TTilus, one of those for each user who is to have NOPASSWD access
[11:11] <Stormx2> whats the equivilent of "emerge -C debian" on ubuntu?
[11:11] <_Saif_> i just search in Synaptic
[11:12] <zeromod> well the laptop was at work but i need to backup so i can upgrade with ease of mind to breezy
[11:12] <zeromod> but my cd drive died on tower
[11:12] <CortoMaltese> lsuaciafner
[11:12] <CortoMaltese> lsuaciafner
[11:12] <_Saif_> just showed mozzila plugins
[11:12] <theine> zeromod, ok, so do you know the ip address of the remote server?
[11:12] <mwe> Stormx2: sudo apt-get remove debian?
[11:12] <sethk> zeromod, scp -r is quite easy to use
[11:12] <CortoMaltese> lsuaciafner:In my Pc I have two partition (windows and Linux). I windows I have modified shadow and passwd to recreate root account. It works, but the system in a not undertood way change password (root and user) e so I can enter the system, eve if there are no errors
[11:12] <Stormx2> mwe: What?
[11:12] <zeromod> ok so if im using scp...
[11:12] <Stormx2> mwe: >_<
[11:12] <Stormx2> mwe: Someone told me to do that
[11:12] <Stormx2> mwe: Gah.
[11:12] <sethk> zeromod, you do something like   scp -r hostname:/home/whatever    or    scp -r ###.###.###.###:/home/whatever
[11:13] <sethk> zeromod, that's copying from a remote host.  to copy to, it is:  scp -r /home/whatever hostname:/home/whatever
[11:13] <Stormx2> mwe: its one of those jokes which people who live in their mother's basement find funny >.<
[11:13] <Battlestar> OMG!!!!!
[11:13] <Battlestar> I actually did it!!!!
[11:13] <zeromod> whats the -r flag?
[11:13] <Battlestar> I FIXED MY LAPTOP!!!!
[11:13] <Stormx2> Battlestar: With whom?
[11:13] <Battlestar> YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
[11:13] <Stormx2> Battlestar: Oh.
[11:13] <_Saif_> when i'm playing audio i'm having problem its not playing
[11:13] <sethk> zeromod,  recursive (copies subdirectories, if you want that)
[11:13] <lsuactiafner> Battlestar : how?
[11:13] <theine> zeromod, -r is recursive, you don't need that if you don't want to copy entire folders
[11:13] <_Saif_> sometimes not always
[11:13] <lsuactiafner> CortoMaltese : no idea what you meant
[11:13] <sethk> zeromod, if you don't want recursive, of course, then don't use it, but to back up a home directory you would normally want it
[11:13] <Battlestar> played around with the reconfig xserv some more
[11:14] <zeromod> yes i def need that flag
[11:14] <zeromod> ok one sec let me see
[11:14] <flannel> bshumate: u still there?
[11:14] <Battlestar> set the max res to 640x480x72
[11:14] <lsuactiafner> rsync works better than scp for bacups
[11:14] <_Saif_> how can i get mplayer?
[11:14] <Battlestar> and that must have sorted out the vsync
[11:14] <Battlestar> yay!
[11:14] <Battlestar> ok thanks for your help, now i'm off to finally use my laptop
[11:14] <sethk> CortoMaltese, modify things to create root with no password at all, then boot linux and create the root password the normal way
[11:14] <theine> zeromod, if you just want to copy a file "foo" from you home directory to a remote server with ip address 192.168.0.2, you do "scp ~/foo 192.168.0.1:"
[11:14] <Battlestar> bya
[11:14] <gahan> !ubuntu
[11:14] <ubotu> [ubuntu]  an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards.
[11:14] <mwe> !tell _Saif_ about mplayer
[11:14] <theine> zeromod, that's  "scp ~/foo 192.168.0.2:" of course
[11:14] <zeromod> ok
[11:15] <zeromod> i changed laptop hostname to fireball lol
[11:15] <lsuactiafner> _Saif_ : the ubuntu mplayer package sucks so much its just very terrible, i use the cvs. vlc is also a media player
[11:15] <flannel> can anyone tell me why my grub boot loader never showed after installing ubuntu?
[11:15] <tolstoy> gnome-launch-box seems cool.  um.  is it supposed to sit in the background and wait for a key combo?  which key combo?
[11:15] <zeromod> now the tower is spitfire and im on fireball ssh into directory
[11:15] <gil-> is there any software to randonmly change the desktop background?
[11:15] <butcherbird> flannel: did you kill a chicken?
[11:15] <lsuactiafner> flannel : i had the same problem, havent managed to solve it
[11:15] <_Saif_> ok let me know which one you recommended me to install
[11:15] <mwe> !grub
[11:15] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:15] <flannel> well that is a pain
[11:16] <TTilus> sethk: should %group work too if all the users will be belonging to the same gourp?
[11:16] <mwe> read that to install grub manually
[11:16] <flannel> it sucks that I have made 3 disks, battle through umpteen installs#
[11:16] <flannel> then have failure even when it installs
[11:16] <CortoMaltese> sethk, arleady done. I have erased in shadow file the symbol in the first line that represents root password, but the system tell me that there is a root password, different from the old one
[11:16] <flannel> kinda puts u off a little
[11:16] <CortoMaltese> sethk, arleady done. I have erased in shadow file the symbol in the first line that represents root password, but the system tell me that there is a root password, different from the old one
[11:17] <sethk> CortoMaltese, did you also delete the corresponding field in /etc/passwd?
[11:17] <cr1stobal> hello, I was wondering if someone might help me with a network/ethernet issue?
[11:17] <sethk> CortoMaltese, the other thing you can do is boot a rescue CD, then do a chroot, then set the root password.
[11:17] <flannel> I had to skip copying remaining packages also coz the disk was borking out
[11:17] <theine> flannel, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and comment the line that says "hiddenmenu"
[11:17] <CortoMaltese> yes, and I have rewrite it
[11:17] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how does KOPETE compare to GAIM?
[11:17] <sethk> cr1stobal, ask and you'll find out.
[11:17] <CortoMaltese> sethk, yes, and I have rewrite it
[11:17] <sethk> CortoMaltese, try the chroot method
[11:17] <flannel> theine: where?
[11:17] <CortoMaltese> explain me
[11:18] <flannel> sorry I am a newb
[11:18] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: it's differetn. it has full webcam support but gaim doesn't
[11:18] <flannel> :(
[11:18] <theine> flannel, what do you mean "where?" ?
[11:18] <CortoMaltese> sethk, explain me
[11:18] <flannel> well how do I edit that?
[11:18] <CortoMaltese> sethk, explain me
[11:18] <flannel> how do i get to the file i need to edit?
[11:18] <cr1stobal> after booting into my thinkpad (t30) I need to restart my networking stuff (/etc/init.d/network restart) in order to get ethernet working
[11:18] <CortoMaltese> I am not good in Linux
[11:18] <cr1stobal> i have hoary running on a different laptop and networking works fine
[11:18] <_Saif_>  32-bit PC (i386)
[11:18] <_Saif_> 
[11:18] <_Saif_> all
[11:18] <_Saif_> 
[11:18] <_Saif_> mplayer-386
[11:18] <_Saif_> 
[11:18] <_Saif_> sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[11:19] <_Saif_> 
[11:19] <theine> flannel, in a terminal type "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[11:19] <_Saif_> intel
[11:19] <_Saif_> 
[11:19] <_Saif_> mplayer-586
[11:19] <_Saif_> 
[11:19] <_Saif_> sudo apt-get install mplayer-586
[11:19] <mwe> _Saif_: press ctrl-c
[11:19] <_Saif_> which one i should install?
[11:19] <CodenameKT> _Saif_: don't do that again
[11:19] <sethk> CortoMaltese, you boot a rescue cd.  the rescue cd has its own root file system.  You move to the real root file system (the one on the hard drive) using the chroot command.  Then you can use passwd, as if you had booted and become root normally
[11:19] <flannel> theine: will that work in windows coz thats where i am just now
[11:19] <mwe> _Saif_: that will get you banned
[11:19] <yatesy> _Saif_: don't spam
[11:19] <lsuactiafner> _Saif_ : dont paste like that
[11:19] <lsuactiafner> mplayer-586
[11:19] <_Saif_> ok sorry for that.
[11:19] <TTilus> _Saif_: go google pastebin
[11:19] <theine> flannel, no
[11:19] <mwe> _Saif_: you're lucky no ops were around and looking
[11:20] <flannel> so how do i get into ubuntu?
[11:20] <theine> flannel, well you can, but it's not worth it...
[11:20] <_Saif_> yeah i'm.
[11:20] <flannel> what do you mean its not worth it?
[11:20] <theine> flannel, wait a minute...
[11:20] <flannel> k
[11:20] <_Saif_> well how can i resize the desktop icons ?
[11:20] <theine> flannel, I think I misunderstood your problem....
[11:20] <CortoMaltese> sethk, how cani i create a rescue cd
[11:20] <flannel> ah okay
[11:20] <flannel> no worries
[11:20] <CodenameKT> _Saif_: with gimp
[11:21] <sethk> CortoMaltese, the install cd is also a rescue cd
[11:21] <sethk> CortoMaltese, boot the install cd and press f1, you'll see instructions for using it as a rescue cd
[11:21] <theine> flannel, do you see anything boot manager related when you switch on your computer?
[11:21] <_Saif_> how
[11:21] <flannel> i didnt there
[11:21] <_Saif_> i'm newbie
[11:21] <sethk> CortoMaltese, an easier way, you can download the fedora rescue cd
[11:21] <flannel> went straight to windows
[11:21] <theine> flannel, ok, than ignore me...
[11:21] <CodenameKT> _Saif_: u find out where the icon png or xpm file is and then open it with gimp and blow it up and then save it
[11:22] <flannel> the ubuntu install said remove cd and reboot
[11:22] <mwe> flannel: so follow the links ubotu sent you to learn how to manually install grub
[11:22] <_Saif_> Ok..
[11:22] <flannel> i installed the boot loader
[11:22] <CortoMaltese> sethk, thank u, i try
[11:22] <zeromod> cp: omitting directory /home/modzero/docs/'
[11:22] <_Saif_> i got error while i tried to download mplayer via terminal
[11:22] <zeromod> nada
[11:22] <mwe> flannel: but appearently it's not installed
[11:22] <_Saif_> it says, mplayer 586 has no installation candidate
[11:22] <lowman62> flannel: where did you install the boot loader? mbr?
[11:22] <zeromod> thats after running scp /home/modzero/docs/ 192.168.x x
[11:22] <theine> zeromod, what was the command that failed like that?
[11:22] <theine> :)
[11:22] <flannel> lowman62: yes
[11:23] <lowman62> flannel: with xp?
[11:23] <seymour> i am having trouble getting rythumbox and totem to play music
[11:23] <zeromod> giving the network ip of the remote server
[11:23] <flannel> yes
[11:23] <zeromod> not the local ip
[11:23] <theine> zeromod, try "scp -r ~/docs 192.168.x.x:"
[11:23] <cr1stobal> should i repeate my networking question? or does no response mean no one can help me?
[11:23] <_Saif_>  sudo apt-get install mplayer-386  can i try this
[11:23] <theine> zeromod, note the colon at the end
[11:23] <flannel> it picked it up during install and asked me if I want to install grub loader to mbr
[11:23] <zeromod> should i be in the working directory?
[11:23] <CodenameKT> _Saif_: yes
[11:23] <TTilus> _Saif_: do you have the repo in your /etc/apt/sources.list where the package should be coming from
[11:23] <lowman62> flannel: and it just bypasses any bootloader directly into windows?
[11:23] <theine> zeromod, what? the docs folder?
[11:23] <zeromod> yeah
[11:23] <flannel> yes
[11:23] <TTilus> is mplayer from universe?
[11:23] <zeromod> ill try it either way
[11:23] <mwe> flannel: it's not installed on the mbr
[11:24] <theine> zeromod, not necessarily, but if it is, ~/docs refers to it
[11:24] <mwe> flannel: install it
[11:24] <seymour> i get a message saying that it failed to colse audio output sink
[11:24] <_Saif_> i just update the repo
[11:24] <flannel> okay ... is that easy enough?
[11:24] <CodenameKT> TTilus: i think multiverse
[11:24] <_Saif_> and search it not found
[11:24] <theine> zeromod, in general, ~ refers to your home directory. try "cd ~"
[11:24] <lowman62> flannel: it could not have installed on the mbr..more likely the disk
[11:24] <TTilus> CodenameKT: is it really non-free?
[11:24] <lowman62> drive rather
[11:24] <TTilus> CodenameKT: (or did the multiverse mean that)
[11:24] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do i completely get rid of kubuntu-desktop?
[11:24] <CodenameKT> TTilus: it is debated because of the formats it plays
[11:24] <zeromod> wait i thinks she is workin
[11:25] <seymour> i am having trouble getting rythumbox and totem to play music i get a message saying that it failed to colse audio output sink
[11:25] <_Saif_> let me know is there other way to install mplayer
[11:25] <flannel> okay... so if i google for manually installing grub bootloader
[11:25] <TTilus> CodenameKT: ah, thats right
[11:25] <mwe> _Saif_: what's wrong with sudo apt-get install mplayer-386?
[11:25] <CodenameKT> _Saif_: open aptitude do a search for mplayer
[11:25] <zeromod> ok now i have a >
[11:25] <_Saif_> i want to show you logs in pvt can i?
[11:26] <zeromod> where would that place the folder on the target server?
[11:26] <TTilus> _Saif_: put universe and multiverse and apt-get update; apt-get install mplayer-586
[11:26] <CodenameKT> _Saif_: not really. because i am telling u what to do already'
[11:26] <mwe> flannel: read what ubotu /msg'ed you instead
[11:26] <flannel> I cant see that
[11:26] <mwe> flannel: read what he says now
[11:26] <lsuactiafner> flannel : i installed lilo in some insane juggling effort. if you can find the bug please report it, i didnt want to bother after getting told with hoary and breezy it didnt exist.
[11:26] <flannel> where is it?
[11:26] <mwe> !grub
[11:26] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:26] <theine> zeromod, in your home directory on the remote server
[11:26] <lowman62> flannel: one second am searching for you
[11:26] <mwe> flannel: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[11:26] <zeromod> modzero@spitfire:~$ scp ~/home/modzero/docs/' 192.168.1.x
[11:26] <zeromod> then i got and still have a
[11:26] <zeromod> >
[11:26] <mwe> flannel: read what ubotu just said
[11:26] <_Saif_> !universe multiverse
[11:26] <ubotu> _Saif_: What?
[11:26] <mwe> !multiverse
[11:26] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:27] <zeromod> not on home dir on server
[11:27] <zeromod> sigh
[11:27] <_Saif_> TTilus, i don't know how to put unverse and multiverse
[11:27] <flannel> I appreciate the help btw folks :D
[11:27] <CodenameKT> _Saif_: TTilus is right you probably don't have the lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list un commented to search the right repository for package u need to un comment the multiverse and then do an apt-get update and search again
[11:27] <kiwipoo> anyone using doko's package of OOO 2.0.1?
[11:27] <mwe> _Saif_: then follow the links ubotu posted
[11:27] <lsuactiafner> zeromod : i told you before scp file user@ip:/home/user    where ip is the numerical address of the machine or the hostname like google.com then
[11:27] <theine> zeromod, not "scp ~/home/modzero/docs 192.168.1.x" but "scp -r ~/docs 192.168.1.x:"
[11:27] <mwe> *sigh*
[11:27] <_Saif_> yeah let me follow
[11:28] <CodenameKT> mwe: always the same thing isn't it?
[11:28] <TTilus> _Saif_: you can also use synaptic and the nice gui for repo config
[11:28] <fberetta> Hello. I have a problem booting my kubunto 5.10 DVD in my BenQ 1640. Anyone has a way to avoit the DVD to hang up at boot?
[11:28] <mwe> CodenameKT: yeah
[11:28] <CodenameKT> TTilus: it has a repo config?
[11:28] <theine> zeromod, just copy and paste what's between the second pair of quotation marks and replace 'x' by the correct digit
[11:28] <_Saif_> i tried synaptic
[11:28] <_Saif_> but did'nt found mplayer in that
[11:28] <_Saif_> i update all the repo
[11:28] <mwe> _Saif_: hello
[11:28] <TTilus> CodenameKT: synaptic does
[11:29] <theine> zeromod, again, the colon at the end *is* important
[11:29] <mwe> _Saif_: wake up
[11:29] <CodenameKT> _Saif_: because u need to reconfigure it
[11:29] <mwe> _Saif_: read the freakin' links ubotu posted
[11:29] <_Saif_> mwe, i'm visiting the link
[11:29] <seymour> how do i check to see what program is using my audio output.  I am having trouble starting totem and its telling me that my audio output is in use
[11:29] <mwe> _Saif_: good
[11:29] <mwe> _Saif_: then read before asking anymore
[11:29] <CortoMaltese> sethk, my cd can't be a rescue cd. Can i create it?
[11:29] <Malaprop> What's the program that gets run when you select System -> Administration -> Printing?
[11:29] <theine> zeromod, and you can either use "scp -r /home/modzero/docs ..." or "scp -r ~/docs ...". same thing
[11:29] <_Saif_> no ppl asking question thats why i prefer to tell'em my problem
[11:29] <girl20> check my hot pics here http://urlsnip.com/659055
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[11:29] <ScottG> I need help with a tv tuner..
[11:29] <Michael_aust> i was wiondering if anyone could tell me about the stability of the ubuntu repos, do they often go mental like the debian ones? wanting to remove almost everything?
[11:30] <theine> zeromod, but ~/home/modzero/docs most likely doesn't exist
[11:30] <CodenameKT> _Saif_: we know what ur prob is this is very common
[11:30] <sethk> CortoMaltese, sure.  You burn the downloaded image.  the bootable install cd is also the rescue cd.  The rescue cd from fedora is a lot smaller (because it isn't also an install cd) and easier to use for this particular problem
[11:30] <CodenameKT> _Saif_: no sense to repeat unless u wanna piss us off like we r the dumb ones
[11:30] <_Saif_> CodenameKT, thats cool!
[11:30] <CortoMaltese> ok
[11:31] <CodenameKT> _Saif_: I shouldn't say dumb. just uneducated. I been there
[11:31] <lsuactiafner> _Saif_ : apt-get update after you change the sources.list
[11:31] <kiwipoo> Malaprop: gnome-cups-manager
[11:31] <Malaprop> kiwipoo: Thanks.
[11:31] <_Saif_> i just asked for help, not for being disgrace by you
[11:32] <_Saif_> lsuactiafner,  ok bro!
[11:32] <tech9iner> twould seem gnome is default desktop when installing 5.0.4 eh mates?..
[11:32] <GTroy> tech9iner: yes
[11:32] <CodenameKT> _Saif_: U wanna me to disgrace u? I havn't done that yet
[11:32] <fberetta> Hello. I have a problem booting my kubunto 5.10 DVD in my BenQ 1640. Anyone has a way to avoit the DVD to hang up at boot?
[11:32] <zeromod> eureka
[11:32] <nikol> hello
[11:32] <GTroy> tech9iner: I've installed kde, and e17 too though
[11:33] <nikol> from greece
[11:33] <zeromod> thanks guys
[11:33] <lsuactiafner> _Saif_ : just remember we help for free and we help many ppl in many channels at the same time, i dont help anymore since i get annoyed. so keep that in mind if someone fights with you, and since i help ppl i try to be patient
[11:33] <Eugman> !dpkg
[11:33] <_Saif_> CodenameKT, i don't like your attitude
[11:33] <CodenameKT> _Saif_: because u know before bothering all us u could easily found ur answer on the web with google or at the ubuntu official homepage or user blogs or or ect ect
[11:33] <GTroy> and it's not difficult
[11:33] <TTilus> _Saif_: have you got your repo conf to include multiverse?
[11:33] <pm> i don't understand why this distro is so popular?
[11:33] <girl20> xAorJim now has 674 fans!
[11:33] <girl20> xAorJim now has 674 fans!
[11:33] <zeromod> beautiful ill be backed up in no time
[11:33] <GTroy> pm: the support for noobs
[11:33] <_Saif_> its ok
[11:33] <CodenameKT> _Saif_: I thought u would have liked my attitude. darn
[11:34] <nikol> my problem!: i can't install rpm's at ubuntu ver. 5.04
[11:34] <_Saif_> CodenameKT,  its ok bro anyway thanks for you help!
[11:34] <flannel> man I am having no joy finding the info
[11:34] <pm> who's a noob?
[11:34] <zeromod> and for the record.. yes i did not pay attention to the colon
[11:34] <pm> or what? :)
[11:34] <TTilus> pm: cool name and sleek outfit  :)
[11:34] <ScottG> I'm a noob.. where's noob support? :)
[11:34] <CodenameKT> _Saif_: oh, no prob. glad i could be of assistance
[11:34] <theine> CodenameKT, please wither change your attitude or leave
[11:35] <pm> cool name? i don't think so :P
[11:35] <nikol> do u know how you can install rpm at ubuntu???
[11:35] <nikol> do u know how yo install rpm at ubuntu???
[11:35] <Michael_aust> nikol you have to use alien to convert it into a .deb package
[11:36] <CodenameKT> theine: I leave ur comment alone.
[11:36] <zeromod> nikol you mean install rpm files
[11:36] <bimberi> nikol: using "alien" - are you sure there's no ubuntu package for whatever it is
[11:36] <CodenameKT> ScottG: u need help with tv tuner?
[11:36] <theine> CodenameKT, sad to hear that
[11:36] <lupz> hi, how i can change the default language ?
[11:36] <mwe> installing an rpm by creating a deb with alien could break things though
[11:36] <ScottG> yeah
[11:36] <CodenameKT> ScottG: what is your prob
[11:36] <bulio> is it possible to get a SMC wireless USB adapter working under Linux?
[11:37] <ScottG> I'm just new and the commands themselves in terminal are new to me..
[11:37] <ScottG> installing this: http://usbvision.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=documentation
[11:37] <zeromod> im not sure bulio. but i got my belkin wifi pcmcia to work using ndiswrapper and it was a breeze
[11:38] <Michael_aust> the linuxcook book from no starch press is pretty good about commands most of it is command oriantated
[11:38] <zeromod> maybe ndis could wrap the adapter as well?
[11:38] <ScottG> "make" "make install" "make modprobe"
[11:38] <zeromod> man scp is nifty command indeed
[11:38] <mwe> make modprobe?
[11:38] <MrRio> Why is it that Java doesnt intergrate with GTK2 under Ubuntu? They look like native GTK apps under fedora
[11:38] <adam_wolgor> hello
[11:39] <flannel> mwe: This page says I need the live cd which I do not havehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:39] <lupz> hi, how i can change the default language ?
[11:39] <Michael_aust> was wondering if anyone could tell me about the ubuntu repos, do they often go all crazy like the debian ones wanting to remove everything or are the pretty much ok all the time?
[11:40] <CodenameKT> ScottG: I cannot explain it any better than the doc. Your going to hafta read carefully and follow directions. I suggest you read the entire doc and then go through the steps
[11:40] <mwe> flannel: I haven't used the install cd for recovery but I beleive it's possible. press f1 when it boot and read what it says
[11:40] <sorush20> I can't mount a floppy cause I keep getting the message that the could not determine the file system.. any help please. .
[11:40] <ScottG> ok but just inputting the commands with no identifiers doesn't work..
[11:40] <flannel> okay... will give that a go then
[11:40] <TTilus> lupz: system -> control -> language (or something like that)
[11:40] <lupz> TTilus: i need to do that from a shell
[11:40] <flannel> where should i be installing grub to then?
[11:40] <theine> ScottG, what do you mean by no identifiers?
[11:40] <ScottG> it's as if Im supposed to know what else to add and I don't
[11:40] <flannel> mbr when it asks?
[11:41] <flannel> or did that install it to the linux drives mbr?
[11:41] <mwe> flannel: it doesn't ask. you tell it at the shell
[11:41] <Manifold> Guys.
[11:41] <fberetta> anyone of you has a DVD BenQ 1640?
[11:41] <flannel> I have installed on a separate drive
[11:41] <Manifold> Is there a way to set a program to a hot key?
[11:41] <nikol> where i can find the utility alien??
[11:41] <theine> ScottG, the documentation is indeed rather cryptic for somebody who has never done this before
[11:41] <QMario> Hello thoreauputic and Seveas!!! :)
[11:41] <Manifold> Is there a way to set a program to a hot key alt + z opens xterm
[11:41] <mwe> flannel: you still need grub at the mbr
[11:42] <Michael_aust> it shoudl be in the repos nikol
[11:42] <bimberi> sorush20: see my reply in #kubuntu :)
[11:42] <flannel> ok...  I will go and have another try
[11:42] <flannel> thanks
[11:42] <HaiKarate> nikol : apt-get that shizzle!
[11:42] <Manifold> !keybindings
[11:42] <ubotu> Manifold: What?
[11:42] <Manifold> !keybind
[11:42] <ubotu> Manifold: Are you on ritalin?
[11:42] <Manifold> !hotkey
[11:42] <ubotu> Manifold: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[11:42] <Manifold> :E
[11:43] <mwe> Manifold: please /msg the bot
[11:43] <CodenameKT> ScottG: if u cannot configure using top method then use the second method as written in doc.
[11:44] <Mx16> Everytime I try to start Ubunti 5.10 I get "Failed to start X Server (graphical interface) blah blah what does this mean????
[11:44] <mwe> Mx16: it means it's misconfigured
[11:44] <theine> ScottG, you will need to install the linux-headers-686 package for this to work
[11:44] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[11:45] <Pygi> mx16: just start "sudo dexconf"
[11:45] <ScottG> I did install the headers
[11:45] <theine> ScottG, actually linux-headers-ARCH, where ARCH is your architecture
[11:45] <TTilus> lupz: language settings are done by setting LANG and LC_* environment variables
[11:45] <johntravouta> oi
[11:45] <theine> ScottG, ah, ok
[11:45] <ScottG> I guess this is all just too far over my head..
[11:45] <johntravouta> oooooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[11:46] <theine> ScottG, but where does it fail?
[11:46] <johntravouta> alguem aqui fala em portugues?
[11:46] <lupz> TTilus: that aren't reboot persistent
[11:46] <theine> ScottG, you downloaded and unpacked the tarball, right?
[11:46] <ScottG> I tried the first one.. in the directory "make" worked.. "make install" didn't
[11:46] <mwe> !pt
[11:46] <ScottG> yes
[11:46] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[11:46] <Manifold> Is there a way to set a program to a hot key alt + z opens xterm (hotkey)
[11:46] <theine> ScottG, try "sudo make install"
[11:46] <TTilus> lupz: /etc/environment
[11:46] <Pygi> mwe: now your changing seveas :P
[11:47] <mwe> Pygi: ?
[11:47] <lupz> TTilus: i will try with that
[11:47] <lupz> TTilus: thanjs
[11:47] <TTilus> lupz: /etc/default/gdm
[11:47] <Pygi> mwe: bah, nothing :P
[11:47] <sorush20> what file system should a windows xp floppy be ?
[11:47] <sorush20> I'm having problems mounting any floppy please help .
[11:47] <theine> ScottG, "make install" is the easy part, if "make" didn't give any errors, that's great
[11:47] <TTilus> lupz: of course editing those wont directly affect you current environment, so you have to "export LANG=buah" anyway
[11:48] <|37th|Trigger> Hello all :)
[11:48] <mwe> sorush20: probably vfat
[11:48] <jman> I have a dynamic IP address. How would i setup ubuntu to email me the IP when it changes/or as a job in cron?
[11:48] <lupz> TTilus: yep :)
[11:48] <CodenameKT> theine: if he wasn't su for make install i will shoot myself now
[11:48] <Belgain> right.... apologies for reasking this question, but i tried asking in #debian, and got told to ask here instead:  does anyone know how to disable autostarting of software RAID arrays at boot time?  my md devices are getting autostarted, and it's interfering with EVMS array detection
[11:48] <theine> CodenameKT, :)
[11:48] <johntravouta> ooooooooooooiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[11:48] <ScottG> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build SUBDIRS=/home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src modules
[11:48] <ScottG> make[1] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386'
[11:48] <ScottG>   CC [M]   /home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src/i2c-algo-usb.o
[11:48] <ScottG>   CC [M]   /home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.o
[11:48] <ScottG> /home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.c: In function `attach_inform':
[11:48] <ScottG> /home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.c:3134: error: storage size of 'tun_addr' isn't known
[11:48] <ScottG> /home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.c:3154: error: `T_ANALOG_TV' undeclared (first use in this function)
[11:48] <ScottG> /home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.c:3154: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
[11:48] <sorush20> I keep getting unknown file type please help .
[11:48] <ScottG> /home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.c:3154: error: for each function it appears in.)
[11:48] <Solitario_RJ> johntravouta eaeeeee!!!!!
[11:49] <Pygi> Scott:: STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP
[11:49] <ScottG> /home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.c:3156: error: `ADDR_UNSET' undeclared (first use in this function)
[11:49] <TTilus> ScottG: learn pastebin
[11:49] <ScottG> /home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.c:3157: error: `TUNER_SET_TYPE_ADDR' undeclared (first use in this function)
[11:49] <CodenameKT> ah crap another paster
[11:49] <Pygi> NOW STOP IT
[11:49] <ScottG> /home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.c:3134: warning: unused variable `tun_addr'
[11:49] <ScottG> make[2] : *** [/home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src/usbvision.o]  Error 1
[11:49] <Pygi> STOP IT SCOOOT
[11:49] <Pygi> NOW
[11:49] <ScottG> make[1] : *** [_module_/home/scott/Desktop/usbvision/src]  Error 2
[11:49] <ScottG> make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386'
[11:49] <Solitario_RJ> EH NOIX Q TA, johntravouta!
[11:49] <ScottG> make: *** [default]  Error 2
[11:49] <Pygi> PLEASE SEVEAS
[11:49] <ScottG> sorry :)
[11:49] <mwe> ScottG: press ctrl-c NOW!
[11:49] <ScottG> I did already..
[11:49] <TTilus> ScottG: SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
[11:49] <jorgp> wow
[11:49] <theine> TTilus, easy buddy...
[11:49] <TTilus> ScottG: good
[11:49] <QMario> TTilus, whoa!!!
[11:49] <sorush20> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6855
[11:49] <QMario> Yeah.
[11:49] <ScottG> woah.. guess some people's connection is slow..
[11:49] <Pygi> omg :/
[11:49] <_Saif_> whaahahooo
[11:49] <Belgain> i've made sure the partitions aren't type 0xfd, and i've made sure that mdamd isn't being called in my /etc/init.d/ scripts
[11:49] <|37th|Trigger> Does anyone know much about swapping files?
[11:50] <CodenameKT> gotta love the pasters
[11:50] <_Saif_> i can't login as Super User
[11:50] <mwe> _Saif_: you shouldn't
[11:50] <Belgain> how else are RAID arrays detected and started in the boot process?
[11:50] <mwe> _Saif_: use sudo
[11:50] <CodenameKT> _Saif_: lol is this ur computer?
[11:50] <_Saif_> lol yeah!
[11:50] <TTilus> ScottG: not slow connection, flood is plain annoying
[11:50] <Pygi> ubotu tell _Saif_ about root
[11:50] <johntravouta> alguem com msn
[11:50] <nikol> where i can find ubuntu's packages??
[11:50] <Pygi> scott: read title
[11:50] <Pygi> nikol: in repositories?
[11:50] <Manifold> Is there a way to set a program to a hot key alt + z opens xterm (hotkey program?)
[11:50] <_Saif_> let me follow the link
[11:51] <jman> I have a dynamic IP address. How would i setup ubuntu to email me the IP when it changes/or as a job in cron?
[11:51] <sorush20> I can't mount in kde any help please http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6855
[11:51] <mwe> Manifold: look around in the menus. it's there. I don't use gnome so I can't tell you where
[11:51] <TTilus> nikol: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:51] <Pygi> sorush: please #kubuntu
[11:51] <TTilus> nikol: if you want to browse and search
[11:51] <Pygi> ttilus: don't suggest that, no regular user can solve dependencies on its own :/
[11:52] <Manifold> mwe, I use Xcfe 4, I know there's a way in Metacity..
[11:52] <theine> ScottG, ok, so make didn't actually work, but I'd keep trying, you're not very far from success I believe
[11:52] <TTilus> Pygi: "if you want to browse and search", nothing about installing, is there  :P
[11:52] <Pygi> ttilus: ah, true that
[11:52] <theine> but I have to go now...
[11:52] <mwe> sorush20: you need to learn the mount command
[11:53] <mwe> sorush20: you need to tell it a mount point
[11:53] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell sorush20 about mount
[11:53] <neofilo> buenas
[11:53] <neofilo> alguienhabla espaol
[11:54] <mwe> !es
[11:54] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:54] <zeromod> mount /media/cdrom or if its an iso file use loopback mount -o loop nameof.iso /media/cdrom  im using media cdrom but yours may differ according to fstab i beleive and you probably need to be sudo to mount using command line
[11:54] <Cintia> ahhhhhhhh I just want to set my network.
[11:55] <neofilo> alguien sabe decirme un scannedor de vulnerabilidades para ubuntu
[11:55] <cafuego> !es
[11:55] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:55] <mwe> cafuego: I told him
[11:55] <cafuego> neofilo: kun je dat lezen?
[11:55] <Cintia> the linux will be the client and the xp the server
[11:55] <neofilo> cafuego, k iduoma usas
[11:55] <cafuego> mwe: Soemtimes you need a bludgeon
[11:55] <neofilo> spain
[11:55] <neofilo> spanish
[11:55] <cafuego> neofilo: Wat? Waar heb je het over?
[11:55] <sorush20> guys how do I mount
[11:55] <QMario> Hello cafuego!!! :)
[11:55] <spacey_ki> !nl
[11:55] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[11:56] <cafuego> neofilo: Als je spaans wilt praten moet je naar #ubuntu-es gaan.
[11:56] <mwe> sorush20: read what ubotu told you
[11:56] <_Saif_> is this correct command, somebody told me to disable auto dialing when ubuntu starts "chmod -x /etc/init.d/ppp"
[11:56] <|37th|Trigger> Can somebody help me to moveing files please?
[11:56] <cafuego> _Saif_: No.
[11:56] <Cintia> somebody help me to set my network, please
[11:56] <cafuego> _Saif_: There should be a file called /etc/ppp_on_boot
[11:56] <Stormx2> Anyone here use Audacious?
[11:56] <sorush20> mwe its taking about mounting a hard disk I want to mount an fdd
[11:56] <sorush20> fdd
[11:56] <sorush20> f
[11:56] <neofilo> cafuego, thenq
[11:57] <_Saif_> Ok, let me know because i wanted to disable auto dial
[11:57] <mwe> sorush20: same procedure
[11:57] <Da> hey
[11:57] <Da> heyhey
[11:57] <Da> hey hey hey hey
[11:57] <Da> yeah baby
[11:57] <Da> hey hey hey hey
[11:57] <_Saif_> cafuego, what should be the correct command
[11:57] <mwe> sorush20: probably sudo mkdir -p /mnt/floppy && sudo mount /dev/fd0 -t vfat /mnt/floppy or something like that
[11:58] <cafuego> _Saif_: rm /etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot
[11:58] <_Saif_> 100% sure!
[11:58] <_Saif_> ?
[11:58] <cafuego> _Saif_: According to /etc/init.d/ppp, it won'yt dila if that file's not there.
[11:59] <Cintia> :(
[11:59] <phoghawk> Hey guys. Who's got problems?
[11:59] <_Saif_> according to ppp on boot its just indicate
[11:59] <flannel> hello again
[11:59] <Cintia> I got!
[11:59] <_Saif_> but its ok let me give a try
[11:59] <_Saif_> should i?
[11:59] <cafuego> _Saif_: Whereas "chmod -x /etc/init.d/ppp" will give you an error on bootup.
[11:59] <flannel> I managed to get into ubuntu but had no graphical environment at all...
[12:00] <flannel> i changed the boot order of my hd's in the bios and got the grub loader
[12:00] <cafuego> _Saif_: Look at line 7 of /etc/init.d/ppp