=== poningru wishes malone were as good as bugzilla [12:05] poningru: in which way isn't it? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru shrugs [12:09] I cant put my hand on it [12:09] poningru: well that's not use :) [12:09] Riddell: Did I sign up for work with joining kubuntu-users? [12:09] its just something about bugzilla that seems 'better' [12:09] I dont know its probably being used to it [12:09] https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-users/ yep you're there [12:09] poningru: Yeah... launchpad is absolutely confusing to me! [12:09] hunger: that is [12:10] Riddell: What is having a team good for? [12:11] hunger: well kubuntu-team is for a) assigning bugs to and b) keeping track of all kubuntu developers === hunger thinks launchpad is a good way to waste time trying to figure out how to use it. [12:11] kubuntu-users is just to let all these unknown people who keep trying to join kubuntu-team have a team that they can join [12:11] Riddell: I can not count myself as a kubuntu developer:-( [12:12] hunger: want a job to do? :) [12:12] Riddell: Nope, I'm happy with being a kubuntu-user;-) [12:12] fair enough [12:12] Riddell: I do not understand QT anyway. === hunger should stop joining stuff just because people tell him to. [12:13] At least kubuntu-users seems to come without an added fee;-) [12:15] no need to know qt to be a kubuntu dev [12:15] ;) [12:15] kubuntu dev != kde dev [12:16] raphink: Well, you need to build stuff... and so far I ended up patching stuff whenever I needed to do that. [12:16] so you know how to patch ;) [12:16] very useful knowledge ;) [12:17] raphink: Spend a couple of years writing C++ code and hacking autotools:-) [12:17] that's quite of an advanced user ;) [12:17] I'm afraid I couldn't write a line of c++ [12:17] raphink: So I can get round... but I just do not have the time to regularly contribute. [12:17] hardly reading it [12:17] wow, autotools, I still have no clue about them [12:18] :) [12:18] Riddell: They are not too hard to work with and kde is moving away from them anyway IIRC. [12:18] yep [12:18] autotools is a world of hurt. [12:19] hi raphink [12:19] hi LaserJock [12:19] raphink: I can test things and do small assignments if I have the time, but that is all for the time being:-( [12:19] mhm [12:19] crimsun: Everything that is suppesed to allow for crossplattform building is a world of hurt. [12:21] crimsun: I have to admit that m4 hurts a bit more;-) === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-011-139.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [12:24] By the way: Is ksysguard's cpufreq thingy working with the 2.6.15 kernel? [12:25] It did work fine with the 2.6.12 kernels and fails for me with the new one. But maybe I just messed the config up again. === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-011-139.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-011-139.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === theine [n=theine@0x535d6f0b.bynxx17.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bobesponja [i=pat@bas75-1-81-57-4-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:53] k [12:53] that's just my opinion [12:53] locate is default partly because we had a summer of code project to improve it and wanted to give it prominance [12:54] I think it should depend on if it's running a file manager part of an html part [12:54] I like to copy some text with the mouse and then past it on konqueror with the mouse wheel [12:54] Riddell: agree [12:54] s/of/or/ [12:54] same with the google search box [12:55] when I use it as html and that I select some word on a webpage, I don't want it to locate a file on my comp [12:56] I'll poke tvo when he's around, he's the one that set it up, maybe he can change it to be more clever [12:57] also i like a showimg better than gwenview, but then again it's just my opinion, also showfoto from digikam is reaaally getting great [12:58] I've been meaning to evaluate digikam and possibly showimg [12:59] Riddell: yes, it would be nice if digikam could be in the default install too, it's really a very usefull app === macgyver2 [n=eric@pdpc/supporter/student/macgyver2] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:15] Riddell: how do you like Tonio's work on konqueror? [01:16] raphink: I've uploaded a new kubuntu-default-settings with most of his changes [01:17] what changes did you keep ? [01:17] most of them :) [01:17] hmm [01:17] which ones did no you not keep then? [01:17] ;) === raphink would really like to see Tonio's profile in dapper :) [01:18] raphink: the one he didn't like :) [01:18] bobesponja: that's a good answer I guess, but it doesnt' help ;) [01:19] I put Splitting stuff into a sub-menu of View [01:19] stopped the tabs from jumping around [01:20] ok [01:20] raphink: what's the new profile about? [01:21] bobesponja: Tonio spent two days working on a new konqui's profile [01:21] so it would keep looking as simple as now [01:21] but potentially contain all the features you could have in konqui [01:21] now, fixed DPI settings in kdm or not? that is the question [01:21] what do you mean Riddell ? === raphink is looking at dapper changes to see the changes in kubuntu-default-settings [01:23] well currently KDM sets the X dots per inch based on what the monitor tells it which isn't always right, and we get people saying "fonts are too large" and "fonts are too small" [01:23] so I could set it to a fixed 100 DPI like I thought gdm used but seems GDM also just uses whatever the monitor tells X [01:23] Riddell: I hope I fixed this for good with giving the DisplaySize in xorg.conf. [01:24] Riddell: Adding a dpi-swith here and there is not a good solution IMHO. [01:25] Riddell: To do it properly you need to add it to xdm, kdm, gdm and the startx config file (plus whatever *dm the user installs). [01:26] Riddell: So I opt for "not" === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:48] Riddell: I read bookmarks in "go" don't seem to work for you, works for me though [01:50] doesnt work for you Riddell ? [01:51] raphink: it works but it's a sub-menu [01:51] what wrong with a submenu? [01:51] I want the bookmarks stuff on a top level menu [01:51] too hard to navigate with the mouse [01:51] hmm ok === raphink never uses bookmarks in menus [01:52] people use bookmarks quite a lot, you want them to be there [01:52] how do you use bookmarks? [01:52] I don't ;) [01:52] I keep all the pages I really want to keep opened in tabs [01:52] and set kde to remember my session [01:52] ;) [01:53] when I don't mind about a page anymore I close the tab [01:53] and the sites I need the most I try to remember ;) [01:53] yeah, I use bookmarks for important pages but less common ones [01:53] ok [01:53] so you don't need them so much ;) [01:53] or so often ;) [01:54] but when I do I want them right there [01:54] :) [02:03] Riddell: I've reuploaded scim-qtimm [02:04] cool [02:04] URL? [02:05] Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1449 [02:09] bobesponja, Riddell: fwiw showfoto will never be a real replacement for gwenview or showimg as it will be focus on image editing and not on displaying it (according to upstream) [02:10] bobesponja, Riddell: due to all this plugin loading showfoto as is is also way to slow on startup for a viewer [02:10] hmm? never herad of showfoto [02:11] Riddell: you did an hour ago ;) [02:11] [00:57] also i like a showimg better than gwenview, but then again it's just my opinion, also showfoto from digikam is reaaally getting great [02:11] allee: are yo sure showimg is about editing? [02:12] allee: sure it allows some editing but I use it mainly for displaying, it's faster at thumbnailing than gwenview here [02:12] Riddell: no, showimg is about viewing. Showfoto is about editing. [02:12] right [02:12] sorry if my explanation was misleading [02:12] allee: ok I got it :) [02:14] Riddell: ah, and showfoto in included in digikam pkg [02:15] allee: http://digikam3rdparty.free.fr/Screenshots/showfoto_and_horizontal_thumbbar.png that looks great though [02:17] bobesponja: Yeah. That's the svn version. They work like hell currently. Lots of people already waiting for digkam 0.9. But this is for sure post dapper material. [02:18] bobesponja: but you will find a dapper backport in my repo when 0.9 will be released ;) [02:18] allee: then it could be use like showimg and gwenview eventually? [02:18] cool [02:19] freeflying: still a couple of issues http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1449 [02:20] bobesponja: yeah but startup time sucks. There are patches for libkipi to delay loading to speed up loading no one has the energy currently to design/work the next generation kipi API [02:21] allee: but itll be done eventually? :) [02:22] bobesponja: yes I'm sure. Post 0.9 I assume when the rewrite of digikam core for 16bit image support and ICC profiles is done. [02:23] cool [02:23] bobesponja: btw I take the liberty to quote your encouraging words on #digikam. Okay? [02:24] allee: sure [02:26] bobesponja: done [02:26] im there too [02:27] Riddell: awesome, go tthe first box of cds [02:27] Lathiat: woo! [02:27] Riddell: amusingly just left on my verandah and not signed :) [02:28] despite the big signature required sticker on the front ;) [02:30] thanks for that [02:30] was quick [02:31] yeah, especially for the other side of the world [02:31] good thing they didn't send it to Perthshire Perth [02:37] heh === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:07] Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1451 [03:12] thanks [03:16] freeflying: approved! [03:16] need to find 1 more reviewer [03:17] \sh: fancy taking a look? [03:17] <\sh> Riddell: just looking :) [03:19] <\sh> freeflying: can you quite in debian/copyright the three paragraphs of the GPL as pointed out in the license file itself? [03:19] <\sh> s/quite/quote/ [03:19] \sh I'd check it now [03:19] <\sh> and the line towards the common license should be GPL-2 [03:21] Riddell, there comes that discrepancy again :P [03:21] \sh picked GPL-2 instead of GPL, just like slomo [03:23] <\sh> seth: well..actually it doesn't matter... [03:23] actually the sources don't say it's GPL 2 or later so debian/copyright should be changed to just say GPL 2 [03:23] ah, so no discrepancy [03:25] freeflying: please change the "GPL 2 or later" to be "GPL 2" [03:30] Riddell: \sh corrected , and reuploading [03:36] Riddell: \sh upload finished .plz check it again [03:37] <\sh> freeflying: no :) [03:37] <\sh> freeflying: you have to quote at least 3 paragraphs of the gpl [03:38] <\sh> argl...wait [03:38] <\sh> shit cache [03:38] <\sh> actually wrong.. [03:39] <\sh> freeflying: read hte comment :) [03:40] seth: this subject is planned for next MOTU meeting [03:40] that's the only thing in the agenda actually iirc [03:40] lol [03:40] gonna be a fast meeting if nothing else is added [03:40] <\sh> freeflying: search for this in /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL-2 [03:40] \sh: got it . thx .reuploading [03:40] <\sh> "How to Apply These Terms to Your New Programs" [03:41] \sh: I checked in Policy last time [03:41] there's no mention of GPL-2 file [03:41] although it obviously existed when policy was last rewritten ;) [03:41] <\sh> then it's GPL..which is a symlink to GPL-2 [03:42] yes \sh I believe so [03:42] and I believe we need to get to agree on this [03:42] since it is said on the streets that the FSF plans to release GPL-3 very very soon [03:42] so we'll need to deal with programs on GPL-2 and programs on GPL-3 [03:43] <\sh> i'm not a lawyer but if we have now two versions of the GPL, there has to be some changes...and when there are old sources which are complying with GPL v1 and never relicensed to GPL v2...what are they doing? [03:43] I believe GPL will then point to GPL-3 [03:43] so it'll be fine for programs under "GPL 2 or later" [03:43] while programs under "GPL 2" must point to GPL-2 file [03:44] <\sh> yes...and what about old sources? which are licensed towards GPL v1? [03:44] \sh: iirc GPL 2 was released in 1991 [03:44] even before linux was released [03:44] I don't think many programs are released under v1 [03:44] if any still [03:44] <\sh> well...sendmail was released before linux :) [03:44] <\sh> but I don't know if sendmail was ever GPL :) [03:44] but maybe its license has been updated since [03:45] or maybe it was "GPL 1 or later" [03:45] so then it can point to the GPL file in Debian [03:45] which seems to always be a symlink to the last version of the GPL [03:45] so to GPL-3 when it's v3 is out [03:46] v1 was released in 1989 and v2 in 1991 [03:46] hardly any chance to get lost of apps under v1 ;) [03:46] (source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPL#History ) [03:46] s/lost/lots/ [03:47] anyway [03:47] I should go to bed ;) [03:47] later guys [03:49] <\sh> freeflying: advocated [03:50] \sh: thx [03:55] I'll upload then [03:55] <\sh> Riddell: beware the numbering....which is wrong in the actual revu upload :) [03:56] <\sh> should be ubuntu1 not ...2 or 3 :) [03:57] <\sh> Riddell: whenever you uploaded..please archive scim-qtimm on revu :) [03:57] yes, changing [04:00] Riddell: how about main inclusion of scim and skim === LaserJock [n=mantha@ppp-69-239-158-126.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:12] if I may insert something even though IANAL I believe most software released under GPL releases itself under 'V2 or later' [04:12] so it would not matter if we released under v3 [04:15] after reading scrollback [04:16] I realize I am an idiot [04:20] <\sh> going to bed :) === freeflying [i=zhengpen@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=JRe@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D3D93.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@65.99.186.191] has joined #kubuntu-devel === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:36] Riddell: ping [06:36] (it's very early morning for him) [06:36] I know [06:36] it's not [06:37] It's 5:30 am for him [06:37] everybody should be up after 5 [06:37] lol [06:37] ;) [06:38] it's 0737 here [06:38] been up almost an hour already, weird === Mez growls at Riddell for adding things to qt [07:03] QKeyEvent === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F77DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@wbs-196-2-120-66.wbs.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:34] Riddell : ping === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:41] awww! [07:41] I hate this [07:42] now things never goes to one toolbar in konqueror [07:42] looks _ugly_ [07:42] ok, school -> === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:52] wha === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lathiat [i=lathiat@ubuntu/member/lathiat] has joined #kubuntu-devel === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@wbs-196-2-105-30.wbs.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:48] \sh: fancy removing a patch from riddell's version of qt?seeing as it's a broken patch ? [08:48] <\sh> Mez: which one? [08:49] immodule [08:49] <\sh> what's wrong with it? [08:49] with immodule - keyReleaseEvent returns 0 for all QKeyEvents [08:49] http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22198 [08:50] more info bout the bug is on redhat bugzilla here https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=156572 [08:50] <\sh> give me one sec to read :) [08:51] np :D [09:01] <\sh> did you check the fedora qt package? [09:01] <\sh> i'll check if there is another patch inside :) [09:03] I havent got round to that yet lol [09:03] mainly cause i'm having trouble finding it [09:05] Mez: this patch has been used in gentoo and suse , it seems that no bugs have found in gentoo for this patch [09:06] freeflying :( === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:10] <\sh> I found some patches towards immodule from redhat..trying them [09:10] <\sh> actually there are 3 patches from redhat for immodule...the one riddel applied [09:10] <\sh> then a -quiet patch [09:11] <\sh> and a patch from 3.3.4 im-free [09:11] <\sh> well..let me build the qt with the quiet patch and see if I can reproduce something [09:12] \sh: Riddell's patch is from here http://freedesktop.org/~daisuke/ [09:12] <\sh> freeflying: i know :) redhat uses the same base patch [09:12] <\sh> s/redhat/fedora/ :) [09:28] \sh: use katapult as a test - this problem is manifesting itself in katapult [09:29] <\sh> Mez: ok...i have the bugreport and i can test it when qt is build now.. [09:29] kk - no probs :D [09:29] <\sh> i've added the -quiet patch...and see if there is an advantage :) [09:29] <\sh> ah well..during the build I can go and have a shower [09:31] have fun === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:23] morning [10:23] is there a way to see which version of ubuntu i'm running? [10:23] there is no /etc/ubuntu_release file or anything ;) [10:24] lsb_release -r [10:25] sweet [10:25] didn't know that :) thanks === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has left #kubuntu-devel ["So] [10:37] <\sh> Mez: works with the newly applied patch [10:37] \sh: w00t :D [10:37] <\sh> I have to get my build machine up and running again to upload..something is wrong with the kernel I think [10:37] <\sh> brb === Huahua [n=hua@221.172.49.212] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:47] <\sh> Mez: if i'm uploading now...we have to rebuild the whole kde stuff [10:49] \sh: wouldnt that have been the case anyway for riddells upload to add that in ? [10:49] 2 days ago [10:50] <\sh> to be honest... [10:50] http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2006-January/004394.html [10:50] <\sh> what the bugreporter was reporting.works for me... [10:50] with the latest qt stuff? [10:50] <\sh> Mez: the quiet patch is only to shut the immodule up...so it makes no noise on the console anymore :) [10:51] <\sh> but what the reporter did... [10:51] <\sh> starting katapult [10:51] \sh: this issue only came about with the 1ubuntu10 version ... [10:51] of qt-x11-free [10:51] and it's affecting me too [10:51] and I've tested it and thats the reason why :D [10:52] well - QKeyEvent is returning 0 [10:52] <\sh> Mez: ok..again...you started katapult [10:52] I assume it's cause of the immodule bug [10:52] <\sh> alt-space shows it's running [10:52] start katapult with the latest dapper libqt3-mt [10:52] alt space [10:52] type soemthing [10:52] it doesnt take it [10:52] enter works - cause thats bound to a hot keu [10:53] <\sh> ok..una momenta [10:53] which is picked up by something else- not the KeyReleasedEvent [10:53] I've had 3-4 people (including myself, Riddell, Seth, and the bug reporter) confirm the bug exists [10:55] <\sh> well...the only other patch which fedora applied is im-key which removes some conditionals [10:56] hmmles [10:56] it's definately working for you though ? [10:56] you cant reproduce the bug ? [10:59] <\sh> well...what should I press... [10:59] <\sh> alt-space and then? [10:59] alt+space [10:59] and then type somethign [10:59] for example,type konsole [11:00] does it say "konsole" and the konsole icon [11:00] or does it still show the katapult icon [11:01] <\sh> I only see a big katapult logo [11:01] yeah [11:01] thats the problem! [11:01] it shoudl be showing the konsole logo after you've typed konsole [11:01] <\sh> well...other apps which are affected? [11:01] \sh: anything which uses keyReleaseEvent [11:02] apparent,opera is affected [11:03] http://lists.trolltech.com/qt-interest/2005-05/thread00041-0.html [11:04] and [11:04] http://lists.trolltech.com/qt-interest/2005-04/thread00927-0.html [11:06] <\sh> well... === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:06] <\sh> I can't get even an svn checkout [11:07] lol [11:08] I'm off to bed [11:08] I'm knackered been up all night [11:08] talk later [11:10] <\sh> well...gentoo never enabled immodule [11:10] <\sh> for 3.3.5 [11:10] hence why it doesnt show in gentoo :d [11:12] apparently the Debian people will file it as RC [11:13] <\sh> hmmm [11:13] <\sh> opera should be fixed [11:13] <\sh> http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=70673&t=1136887983&page=1#comment725549 [11:17] hmm [11:17] will have to look at that to check what they patched [11:18] will you post that in the bug as info please? [11:21] <\sh> i found one patch for this problem [11:21] <\sh> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/immodule-qt/2005-June/000732.html [11:22] hmm [11:22] that explains the problem better :D [11:23] <\sh> i'm checking... [11:23] but - yeah - that patch sounds as if it might cause problems [11:25] anyways [11:25] bed [11:25] night [11:30] <\sh> ok checking [11:52] <\sh> moins Hobbsee [11:52] hey \sh! === Hobbsee is still finding out all sorts of things that she never wanted to know about routers [11:53] <\sh> e.g.? [11:54] earth/ground pin on our router got smashed to one side, so the power plug of the router keeps falling out === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee will try to get pictures, when she finds the digital camera again. [11:55] <\sh> hehe...nice one...just like my cisco machine in my early beginnings...where one manufacturing guy forget a screw for the powersupply on the motherboard [11:56] hehe [11:56] <\sh> so the pins on the board were shortcutting every time someone was jumping next to this cisco [11:56] i've got no idea how the heck this happened! [11:56] LOL great! [11:56] and worse still, dad has all the passwords for the current router, and he's currently in the US [11:56] so it's left to me to fix, cos mum wants to use the phone :P [11:56] <\sh> call dad and ask him :) [11:56] we dont have his number [11:57] <\sh> hmm..cellphone? [12:02] good point, that works over in the US === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:11] <\sh> YAY....fixed [12:11] <\sh> Mez: fixed qt..:) === raphink [n=raphink@raphink.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:14] <\sh> ok...uploading the fixed qt :) katapult works now L:) [12:14] \sh: woohoo! when do i get the fixed version? [12:14] <\sh> in the next couple of hours :) I'm just uploading the fix for qt :) [12:16] nyah! i want it now! === Hobbsee loves the katapult functionality :P === raphink [n=raphink@raphink.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:23] \sh :D cool - you used that patch I take ? [12:23] <\sh> Mez: yes...uploaded already :) [12:23] cool :D === Mez marks bug as pendingupload [12:24] good work on finding that patch :D [12:24] <\sh> google is my friend :) [12:24] hehe [12:24] i googles but musta been for something else [12:25] and am glad that i wrked out where it was coming from [12:25] was very frustrating at first [12:25] <\sh> Mez: the search words were: "qt immodule KeyRelease" === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:25] <\sh> first link on the result page :) [12:26] lol [12:26] who'd lubos lumak ? [12:26] lunak * [12:26] oh [12:26] nvm [12:26] i read as approved not provided by [12:26] \sh how about qt now ? [12:27] <\sh> freeflying_: as I said...the patch I found works...katapult actually is working [12:28] <\sh> Mez: even if the patch is not official, it fixes a bug...and if there is in the near future a new release of this immodule patch, then we can take this and not the work around [12:28] :P [12:28] yeah [12:28] tis good it's fixed :D === Mez pats \sh on the back and promises to buy him a pint of something if we ever meet again === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-007-034.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:29] <\sh> czessi: hi :) [12:29] Morgen sh [12:32] 223 merges to go o_O [12:33] in less than 10 days :s [12:34] hehe just a few! [12:34] indeed just a few :s === raphink is going for superkaramba [12:36] ah [12:36] \sh will you upload latest patched qt [12:36] seems superkaramba shouldn't be merged since we switched to kde 3.5, so it's not standalone anymore [12:36] <\sh> is already [12:36] \sh: shouldn't the superkaramba source package be removed from dapper? [12:37] <\sh> freeflying_: Accepted qt-x11-free 3:3.3.5-1ubuntu11 (source) [12:37] <\sh> raphink: dunno :) [12:37] \sh: in kde 3.5, superkaramba is built from kdeutils it seems [12:37] even in debian it is so [12:38] since kde 3.5 is default in dapper [12:38] I think the superkaramba source is obsolete [12:39] <\sh> let's wait for riddell...if he tells us that elmo can kill superkaramba for dapper...then elmo can do this :) [12:39] ok [12:39] :) [12:40] hmm [12:40] weird [12:40] siretart began to sync it a month ago or so [12:41] but it was never synced it seems [12:41] <\sh> ok..gajim is fixed, too :) [12:42] :) [12:42] <\sh> libnotify bug in last gajim upload...applied a new patch for 0.9.1 [12:42] <\sh> Czessi: did you apply for a revu account? [12:44] iirc in policy, two source packages should never build the same bin [12:44] \sh: yes, but I have a problem [12:44] what's your problem Czessi ? [12:44] <\sh> Czessi: a key? [12:44] Riddell: are you there? [12:45] \sh: no, i have a key. today i habe a meeting with dholbach to sign my key [12:45] <\sh> ah :) good :) [12:45] oh nice :) [12:46] you're gonna be sure to be in the strongset ;) [12:46] <\sh> Czessi: because we have to get your packages which are not neither in ubuntu nor in debian into revu...we have only 9 days left [12:46] <\sh> s/not// [12:46] what's the pb if it's not your key then Czessi ? [12:47] <\sh> Czessi: it means we have to change all changelog files :) to match the ubuntu versioning scheme :) [12:48] \sh: I write a shell script for upload to revu and I undesigned execute this script. So I can't upload my first sources again to activate my account. [12:48] ?? [12:48] Czessi: you can use dput to upload to REVU [12:49] dput -f yourpackage_source.changes [12:49] that uploads to REVU ;) [12:49] why would you need to write a script for that Czessi ? [12:50] i have sort my sources in different dirs [12:51] ah ok [12:51] so you wrote a script that uploads all the sources at once ;) [12:51] instead of having to cd to each [12:51] ? [12:51] yes [12:52] lazy :p === raphink had written a script to automatically pbuild all his packages at once [12:53] and i have undesigned execute this script one day before i was add to the updoader and now dput says the files already exists. So I can't upload my sources again to activate my account. [12:53] oooh ic [12:53] well if you kindly ask to the REVU admins I'm sure they can do something for you ;) [12:54] at time i wrote a mail to siretart [12:54] wait that dholbach is here [12:56] oh well he's on #ubuntu-motu it seems [01:01] <\sh> ok...preparing a bug report with the immodule patch towards debian...so nobody can complain ubuntu is not giving back [01:01] \sh: do you think I should file a bug saying I'm merging superkaramba so people don't begin to merge it ? [01:01] <\sh> raphink: jepp [01:02] :) [01:02] hmm [01:03] interesting [01:03] \sh: [01:03] $ ./lpbugs.py -n superkaramba [01:03] E: superkaramba is not a known source package [01:03] ;) [01:03] <\sh> ah then it's gone from the archives for dapper :) [01:03] which is good :) [01:03] it's still listed on LP though [01:04] I'll send a mail to the list to tell people to not merge it === theine [n=theine@fw2.nbi.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:05] Hi, are the fixes for Katapult already uploaded to the Dapper repos? [01:06] theine: checking [01:07] <\sh> theine: it's a fix for qt..and yes i uploaded it a couple of minutes ago [01:08] \sh: part of libc6 libc6-dev libc6-i686 udev? [01:08] <\sh> theine: if you think about the keys not working [01:08] or am i living in wishful thinking? [01:08] \sh, yes [01:08] *in the land of wishful thinking [01:08] <\sh> Hobbsee: well..it has nothing to do with libc6 ;) [01:08] The bug report mentions that it's a problem with qt-x11-free, but I can't really find that package... [01:09] damn [01:09] <\sh> theine: the fixed qt was uploaded at 11:20 UTC [01:09] <\sh> theine: it's the source package...for libqt3-mt etc. [01:09] \sh, ah, I see [01:10] \sh, so which package corresponds to the `fixed qt' [01:10] <\sh> theine: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2006-January/004490.html === JRe [n=JRe@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:11] <\sh> theine: and I see from our buildlogs..that i386 and amd64 is just build...so it's only a matter of 30 mins when the new binaries reaching the archives [01:11] \sh, alright, thanks [01:12] <\sh> theine: oh it's already in the archives...for dapper :) [01:12] \sh, indeed, upgrading now... [01:14] It works! Thanks again [01:14] <\sh> I wonder, if I have to send all kde packages to the buildds after the new qt compile...my styles and themes are just gone :) [01:14] <\sh> theine: do you have problems with your styles and window decorations? [01:15] \sh, not that I'm aware of [01:15] <\sh> hmm..strange...why do I have the problem...oh..moment [01:15] <\sh> brb [01:16] yes!!! the update!!! === Hobbsee dances around happily - this katapult bug has been driving me NUTS! [01:20] <\sh> well..it was just me with the problems...phew [01:21] YAY! [01:21] thanks \sh! [01:21] <\sh> thx to mez that he found out what problem it was :) [01:22] true, well thanks to both of you, we now have a slightly saner hobbsee :P [01:22] who can launch all her programs again [01:23] Will Qt 4.1 make its way into the Dapper repos by the way? [01:26] <\sh> theine: it's in universe [01:27] <\sh> theine: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2006-January/004492.html [01:27] <\sh> fresh and hot :) [01:27] \sh, fantastic [01:27] <\sh> theine: but not compiled [01:27] \sh, it will be soon I guess? [01:27] <\sh> buildds have to work hard right now :) [01:28] \sh, sure, I understand [01:28] <\sh> theine: yeah..it's in the buildd queue and I think in one or two hours it's in the archives [01:28] \sh, great, I hope I'll finally be able to build yzis svn then... [01:32] <\sh> theine: what is it? [01:32] \sh, more or less kvim-ng... http://www.yzis.org/ [01:33] <\sh> theine: ah..yes..I remember [01:42] Riddell, Mez [01:42] the knetworkconf is still not working 100% === JRe [n=JRe@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:59] <\sh> JRe: you are a motu, right? please review http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1458 [02:00] <\sh> JRe: it's an easy one...everything is correct :) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@wbs-196-2-105-30.wbs.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === theine [n=theine@fw2.nbi.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:15] What happened to /etc/locale.gen in Kubuntu Dapper? [02:19] good question theine === hunger [n=hunger@p54A62542.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:19] I'm wondering the same [02:19] theine: and it seems to be linked to some serious problems to me, too [02:20] theine: [02:20] [2006-01-10 14:18] not only it does not work properly, but when I type ^+e for example, several times, I get nothing ; but then if I try to use the backspace key, it deletes the prompt! [02:20] I'm wondering if this is not linked to the new locales package [02:20]