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kkathmanthen just cd the mount point12:03
kkathmanor put the mount point in konqueror12:03
kkathmanetc12:03
visik7cd is ok12:03
visik7partitions aren't12:03
kkathmanyah12:03
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visik7doI need to use /fullmountpoint/path ?12:03
kkathmanyou mount your partitions yes?12:03
visik7yes they are mounted12:04
kkathmanin my case  /dev/hdb1 mounts to /mnt/music12:04
kkathmancd /mnt/music12:04
kkathmanthere is it12:04
kkathmanit is12:04
kkathmanhehe12:04
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kkathmanor whatever you call it12:04
visik7no media:/ access ?12:04
dipnlikno12:04
visik7:(12:05
dipnlikmedia:/ is for removable media, i think12:05
visik7but a friend of mine using kde3.5 on slackware has it12:05
visik7both removable and fixed devices12:05
kkathmanvisik7: ok you can make it media is you want ...if that is where you mountpoint is12:05
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nikolthe neccesery utils,libs,etc ???12:05
dipnliknikol: yes12:06
visik7kkathman: they are mounted in /media12:06
dipnliknikol: call it automagic if you want :D12:06
dipnlikvisik7: media:/ is different from /media12:06
visik7dipnlik: yes I guess it :)12:06
nikolwarty12:07
nikolhoary12:07
nikolhoary-backports12:07
nikolbreezy12:07
nikolbreezy-backports12:07
nikoldapper12:07
nikolwhat is the difference?12:07
visik7nikol: versions12:08
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visik7warty = 5.06 breezy=5.1012:08
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visik7dapper notyet released12:08
nikolfor 5.04 what?12:08
dipnliknikol: and don't send that many messages in a row, it is not polite :)12:08
nikolsorry! :)12:08
Tm_Tvisik7: warty was 4.10 iirc12:09
visik7Tm_T: yes sorry12:09
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visik7dipnlik:12:10
visik7dipnlik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames?highlight=%28codename%2912:10
nikolvisik7: :D12:11
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dipnlikvisik7: think that was for nikol :)12:11
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visik7dipnlik: yes I think it too :)12:11
nikolhey guys12:12
nikolwhat i have p4 2.4 i must download the package for the powerpc or for i386?12:13
Antikiteis wpa_supplicant and ndiswrapper included on the breezy dvd iso?12:14
joshisscifinikol: i38612:16
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crimsunAntikite: wpasupplicant is not12:16
charwoodQuick Question: Does the Kubuntu 6.02 'Dapper' Flight 2 LIVE CD have the capability of hard drive installation?12:16
charwoodOr do I have to get the install CD?12:16
Antikitethank you crimsun! I have to have it to get my internet connection working, good to know before I install kubuntu ;)12:17
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aleixi38612:18
aleixnikol, i38612:19
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morethi all12:19
Orleanswhy does this OS deny my root password when making changes?12:20
moretwhere is dpkg-reconfigure locales????12:20
nikolafter the installation where i can find and run the app???12:20
apolorleans, you don't have root password i guess12:20
apoltry with sudo12:20
OrleansI do have a root password set12:20
Orleansit just ignores it. Its also active12:21
Orleanswent through all that12:21
OrleansI also cant install and get working a wifi sniffer12:21
apolsudo su works?12:21
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OrleansMy WiFi card works good, (Orinoco) but I cant seem to get Ethereal to work.12:22
OrleansYes it does apol12:22
apolso why do you need su?12:22
OrleansI just have trouble getting the administrator button to take my password, it just defaults back to clicking the button12:22
OrleansI would prefer to run as root12:23
Orleansthis forces me to run as kevin12:23
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nikolafter the installation where i can find and run the app???12:23
Orleanssee here root@antichrist2:/home/kevin#12:23
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Orleansthat works fine12:23
sampanroots are for trees!  save the trees!  use sudo!12:23
apolI don't know if I'm understanding your problem12:24
apolyou can try to reset it with sudo passwd12:24
dipnlikis is possible to have firefox's adblock for konqueror? with a plugin or maybe with another program?12:24
Orleansthe terminal works fine12:24
moretplease, help, I need reconfigure locales, but when I execute sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales happens nothing12:24
Orleansprograms that ask for me to authenticate as root dont work12:25
OrleansI just did a full upgrade, maybe that will help?12:25
apolso this is an ethereal problem, not kubuntu's one...12:25
sampanorleans, there are two possibilities.  (a) (k)ubuntu is designed to use sudo (not root), so when GUI things ask for admin password, you should use your USER pass, not root's pass.  (b) if it's a fresh breezy install (i.e., you haven't updated) then you might have the "admin mode" bug and updating your system will fix it12:25
poningruis there something that utilizes zeroconf in a gui sort of way?12:25
poningrukinda like howl?12:25
OrleansI really like this distro, it jus tdoes not like Ethereal at all12:25
poningruhttp://www.porchdogsoft.com/products/howl/12:25
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OrleansI ran the upgrade just before coming in here12:26
OrleansI read about the bug12:26
sorush20guys after I upgraded to kde 3.5 I can't automount any more files any help pleaes.12:26
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OrleansI do appreciate the feedback12:26
apolfine :)12:27
sampanorleans, if you're all updated, then i suspect you should try admin modes with your USER pass, not root's  -- that's the better way and the way (k)ubuntu is designed to work12:27
limit223Hi! can anyone confirm logging in KDE Flight 2 with latest upgrades gives: Segmentation Fault error?12:28
OrleansI might try and run the updates on my laptop and see if Ethereal works12:28
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OrleansI am really impressed with the distro, it works great out the box with my Orinoco card and WiFi works great.12:29
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limit223Does anyone here run Dapper??12:31
Hobbseelimit223: yes12:31
limit223I try to logg from gdm12:31
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limit223Startkde: Starting up...12:31
limit223/usr/bin/startkde: line280: 5510 Segmentation fault ksplash --nodcop12:31
limit223/usr/bin/startkde: line297: 5511 Segmentation fault LD_BIND_NOW=true kdeinit +kcminit12:31
limit223Startkde: Could not start kdeinit. Check your installation.12:31
NewOrleansbaah12:31
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Orleansbetter I guess. someone took NewOrleans :(12:32
limit223Hobbsee, please tell me, do you have the latest upgrades??12:33
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Hobbseelimit223: ah, i will in a min...12:33
limit223tx12:33
Hobbseethat's a weird error12:34
limit223yeah12:34
Hobbseechecked ubuntuforums.org about it?12:34
limit223from some hours ago12:34
Hobbseeanything there?12:34
limit223I wrote a thread already there12:34
limit223no output..12:35
limit223nobody reply12:35
limit223replied12:35
Orleansreply12:35
limit223I know there were working for some gtk seg fault issues before12:35
Hobbseewhy are you not using kdm?12:36
limit223but I'm not sure about this one12:36
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Hobbseeit may make no difference12:36
OrleansWhat do I need from the package list to get my DVD's playing?12:36
limit223I thing.. is kdeinit12:36
limit223and if so12:36
Hobbsee!dv12:36
Hobbseed12:36
ubotuI don't know, Hobbsee12:36
Hobbsee!dvd12:36
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limit223...wouldn't work either12:36
Hobbsee!tell Orleans about dvd12:36
Hobbseeyeah, exactly12:36
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nikoli run an .deb and i can;t install it, what prog i must select to install it?????12:37
AntikiteWhere would I find kubuntu packages of wpasupplicant and ndiswrapper to download separately? I'm having trouble finding them12:37
limit223all I need is a confirmation..if it is possible12:37
Hobbsee!tell nikol about deb12:37
nalioth!deb12:37
ubotuTo install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb12:37
Hobbsee!info ndiswrapper12:37
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AntikiteWell, the homepage of ndiswrapper only has source, I'm looking for kubuntu packages preferably :)12:38
naliothubotu: tell Antikite about ndiswrapper12:39
Antikitemuch abliged nalioth, thanks :)12:40
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kairu0i have an irq sharing problem. my sound and network card want to share the same irq. how can i fix this?12:46
OrleansI love bots12:46
OrleansLet me try and see if this dvd thingy works12:47
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limit223Hobbsee: are you still upgrading?12:53
Hobbseeno, i upgraded12:53
Hobbseehavent logged out and back in though12:53
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limit223ok...just make sure that you have another DM12:53
Ares-x-i have a quick question12:54
limit223or another OS installed12:54
Ares-x-i have a HP pavilion zv6000 laptop with a intigrated wifi chip.. will i be able to use this with kubuntu?12:54
OrleansThanks!12:54
OrleansEveryone take care and have a great year from New Orleans!12:55
Orleansvisit www.realnola.com for real Katrina pictures!12:55
Orleansl8r12:55
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poningruwtf12:56
poningrukde uses avahi?12:56
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naliothAres-x-: what is the chipset in the wifi?12:58
joedjhi folks, i have what's essentially a KDE questio, but #kde is not helping. attempting to get a borderless window, i set konsole's window type to dock. now konsole can't get the focus at all, so i can't change it back by accessing the Alt+F3 window menu or anything. how can i use konsole again? i have about 10 konsole windows open that i was actively working in, so it would be nice to fix this without reinstalling the OS ;-)12:59
Ares-x-how do i find out what the chipset is?12:59
Antikitelspci Ares-x-12:59
Ares-x-??01:00
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poningruAres-x-: go into a terminal and type lspci01:00
poningrufind your wireless card01:00
Ares-x-i'm in winblows currently01:00
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poningruoh01:00
poningruum not sure then01:01
poningruwhat is the model number01:01
poningruand manufacturer01:01
Ares-x-hp pavilion zv600001:01
poningruum that seems to be the laptop01:01
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poningruoh its integrated?01:01
Ares-x-yeah01:01
Ares-x-yep01:01
poningruoh then go into device manager01:01
Macehow come kubuntu instlalation doesnt let me choose which PARTITION to install, only HARD DRIVE?01:01
sampanjoedj  not sure if i even understand the problem, but, can you try alt-tab to put focus back into those windows?01:01
Antikiteyou might get a tip if you try control-panel->system->hardware->device manager and then find the wificard and see what driver it uses01:02
naliothAres-x-: what OS are you using to talk to us?01:02
poningrunalioth: windows01:02
Ares-x-windows :(01:02
joedjsampan: doesn't work. the konsole windows no longer appear on alt+tab01:02
Ares-x-downloading kubuntu as we speak01:02
douglasis there a eclipse cdt package?01:02
naliothAres-x-: go grab k/ubuntu LiveCD and boot it up01:02
sampanjoedj, ouch :/  /me makes mental note not to set konsole windows to "dock" ;/01:02
joedjsampan: good plan :)01:02
poningruAres-x-: hold on let me do some research01:02
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joedjsampan: i started a new konsole to try it out because i didn't want to break the ones i was using, but it modified all of them :)01:04
Ares-x-broadcom 802.11b/g wlan01:04
poningruAres-x-: its a broadcom01:04
Ares-x-is my chip01:04
poningruoh hehe01:04
Ares-x-hehe01:04
poningruhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=60365801:04
sampanjoedj  i wonder if there's a config file -- you might be able to kill the processes and then alter the configs?01:04
joedjsampan: i'm sure there is, it's gotta store that setting somewhere, i'm just hoping someone can tell me rather than looking for a needle in a haystack :)01:05
Ares-x-poningru thanks much01:05
sampanhehehe -- wish i knew ... did you make the setting IN konsole?  i can't even find that option01:06
joedjsampan: it's in the Advanced -> Special Window Settings dialog of the alt+f3 window menu01:06
joedjsampan: i didn't even want to do it, i was trying to help someone on #kde with their question ;-)01:06
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sampanooooooooh that's even worse -- helping someone CAN bite you in the ass ;x01:07
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poningruAres-x-: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=4b561c45c83c395c3f6176c6a4a7c7b2&t=53578&highlight=zv600001:07
poningrulook into that01:07
poningruAres-x-: are you looking for a 64bit or a 32bit system?01:08
naliothAres-x-: ndiswrapper will certainly drive it (unless the proc is amd64 or ppc) and there is a broadcom linux driver being worked on01:08
Ares-x-i'm ganna put a 32 bit sys on01:08
Ares-x-it's a sempron01:08
Ares-x-just a toy01:08
poningrunalioth: there is 64bit driver for broadcom chipsets01:08
naliothponingru: i dont keep up on how fast they have advanced with that drivr01:09
Ares-x-the way i read that thread there is a 32bit version correct?01:09
poningruhehe :)01:10
poningruAres-x-: yes ofcourse01:10
Ares-x-ok01:11
Ares-x-that was the only real reservations i had about putting n?x on this01:12
Ares-x-i need to have my wifi working01:12
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sampanjoedj  maybe ~/.kde/share/config/konsolerc  ?  dunno if that would have the special-window settings or not01:13
naliothAres-x-: if you're using a 32bit arch, your wifi will work via one method or another01:13
Ares-x-yeah01:13
Ares-x-thanks01:14
Ares-x-you guys have been a huge help01:14
joedjsampan: nope (but thanks ;-)01:14
sampanlol i'm curious now -- 'cause that's one of those little pickles i could see myself getting into too -- i tend to hit buttons for settings on a "let's see what this little thingamajig does!"01:15
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kairu0i have an irq sharing problem. my sound and network card want to share the same irq. how can i fix this?01:17
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Ares-x-is kunbuntu a hard install?01:24
naliothnot at all01:25
nathi, i've a problem : can some one tell me what is the pb and what can I do ?01:25
natan 10 01:24:06 localhost kernel: [4430327.764000]   /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: unable to read partition table01:25
natJan 10 01:24:08 localhost kernel: [4430329.767000]  sda : READ CAPACITY failed.01:25
natJan 10 01:24:08 localhost kernel: [4430329.767000]  sda : status=0, message=00, host=7, driver=0001:25
natJan 10 01:24:08 localhost kernel: [4430329.767000]  sda : sense not available.01:25
naliothnat: read the /topic please and use a pastebin to paste01:25
natsorry nalioth, it was only 4 lines I thinking that it wasn't too much01:26
naliothnat: one line is ok, more than that is considered rude01:26
natok01:26
natsorry01:26
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natand for my pb, so know what can i do ?01:29
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naliothnat: are you in linux now?01:30
ZorlonAnyone know which video card VMWare 5.5 emulates? I have googled and searched VMWare and missed it consistently01:30
natyes01:30
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joedjsampam: well, went for a coffee and nobody on #kde helped while i was gone, time to start looking through that haystack that is ~/.kde/ =P01:30
naliothnat: then use apt-get or synaptic to install 'smartmontools'01:30
natok nalioth01:31
joedjsampan: woohoo, looks like it's .kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc01:32
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natnalioth: i installed it what should i do know ?01:33
sampanjoedj, yay!  glad you found it ... and now i know where those window-specific settings are too :)01:33
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naliothnat: in a terminal type 'smartctl --help' and use it to your needs01:33
natok thks01:34
joedjsampan: looks like i gotta restart kwin, i'll return and let you know if it worked =P01:34
sampank -- good luck!01:34
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joedjsampan: success! wasn't quite as simple as restarting, KDE put the settings back when i logged out, but it did work (once i disabled it again without X running)01:40
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sampanjoedj, nice to know!  glad you got it figured out :)01:41
randletrHi all01:41
randletr<---- newbie with a question01:42
nalioth!ask01:42
naliothi've found another fat factoid01:42
naliothrandletr: don't ask to ask01:43
randletrI just install Kubuntu 5.10 and I'm trying to get ssh installed.  I installed open-ssh client and server, and when I cd to ~/.ssh the directory isn't there01:43
randletrI tried to create it manually and run ssh keygen, but it's saying the commands aren't found01:44
sethyou are sure that openssh-client is installed? That's the package that contains ssh-keygen01:45
randletraccording to adept it is...01:46
randletris there another way to check01:46
randletr?01:46
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randletropenssh-client, openssh-server, and shh01:47
randletrerrr. ssh01:47
naliothrandletr: installing the 'ssh' pkg will install both client and server. until you run ssh once, you won't have an .ssh dir01:49
randletrAhhhhh, gotcha01:52
randletrThat worked... Thanks you very much01:52
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natnalioth: i'm looking the command smartctrl but i don't know what i should do resolve my problem... my actual error is02:09
nathdc : lost interupt02:09
natinterrupt02:09
naliothnat: the smartctl checks your S.M.A.R.T status on your drive02:10
nati'm trying to launch gparted, but it's always in a "scanning all devices" status02:11
nati dont know what can i do02:12
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fatejudgerdoes anyone here get a lot of buffer underrun errors when using k3b?02:13
natand has i've this error in my kernel log, i thing it can be from this error02:13
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naliothnat: fire up a LiveCD02:15
p337So, i got my sound and wireless drivers installed yesterday, they were working great.... i turn on my computer today............ neither works... why would that happen?02:16
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natnalioth: i've another pb, k3b don't work too... i think both problems are linked ... but i don't know what is it and what can i do02:23
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naliothnat: sounds like your drive needs an fsck run on it02:24
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drcurlHi02:27
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natnalioth: what did u tell me ?02:35
natbecause i reboot to test something02:35
natbut it dosen't work better02:35
naliothnat: i told you to get a LiveCD02:35
nati don't have any LiveCD02:35
naliothnat: perhaps getting one would be helpful02:36
natok but when i lauch k3b it the same pb02:36
nati ve a message : localhost kernel: [4295078.557000]  hdc: lost interrupt in my kernel log02:36
natand the apps stay on the windows "scanning device"02:36
naliothnat: i suspect you'll need to boot a liveCD and run fsck on your hard drive02:36
natha ... ok, can i do it with out a livecd ?02:37
drcurlHi, I'm use to kde under slack. It is very fast, use only around 80 megs of ram once loaded. Start fast also. Is it the same under kubuntu?02:37
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natnalioth: is it possible to do it from the kubuntu installation cd ?02:39
naliothnat: it is, but you'll not have any guis02:39
natbut hdc, it's my cdrom02:40
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naliothnat: i don't understand02:41
natin my log i ve02:41
natlocalhost kernel: [4295078.557000]  hdc: lost interrupt in my kernel log02:41
nathdc is my cdrom device02:42
natare u sure that it's my hardrive which need a fsck02:42
drcurlsomeone can give me some spec about kubuntu speed?02:43
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naliothnat: you are right02:43
naliothnat: is it plugged in properly?02:44
natfor the moment there is no disc in my cdrom02:44
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Lord_Athurhi03:00
Hobbseehi03:00
AcXidehi03:01
Lord_Athur:D03:02
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computinchuckhow do i prevent modules from loading03:16
computinchuckon startup03:17
bimbericomputinchuck: try adding them to /etc/hotplug/blacklist03:18
computinchuckbimberi, is that all?  i noticed when i bootup that it loads up hotplug pretty close to the end of the process03:19
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bimbericomputinchuck: it might work (i did say 'try' :) )03:19
computinchuckhehe, alright, i'll see how it works03:20
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poimensomeone kwons if I install flight I can use the sources of breezy?03:24
Hobbseeno, that probably wouldnt work too well03:26
poimen:(03:28
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poimensomeone making packages for it?03:28
poimen??03:29
poimenor can I use the source to make packagaes for it?03:29
Hobbseewhat did you want to install?03:30
poimenw32codecs/libdvdcss03:32
poimenand all that things to play media ;)03:33
Hobbsee*thinks*03:33
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Hobbseei'd imagine that a lot of the things in repos in breezy are there in dapper, or updated versions.  as for the w32codecs that arent in repos, probably try the breezy binaries, or compile them03:33
poimenok03:34
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bbeckIs there a place to find out the intended versions of packages for the next version of Kubuntu?03:44
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Hobbseepackages.ubuntu.com03:45
bbeckthank you.03:45
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charwoodI heard a rumor that there was some kind of ATI graphics driver package for kubuntu but I can't seem to find it.03:54
Hobbsee!ati03:54
ubotuI guess ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1003:54
charwoodActually, it turns out tha tI just spelled fglrx wrong.03:54
charwoodSorry to disturb you.03:54
Hobbseeno problems03:56
naliothcharwood: some of us are already disturbed :/03:58
gangan963Can somebody help me to "activate" my second HDD ... I try it with wiki but it doesnt work04:01
bbeckWhat do you mean activate you second hard drive?04:03
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gangan963I see that it is there "dev/hdc2" but  I cant do anything04:03
bbeckYou can't do a sudo mount -t <filesytem type> /dev/hdc2 ?04:03
gangan963in the "disk &filesystem" (System settings) it is enabled04:04
gangan963bbeck: I got somethink like a man !04:06
gangan963manual04:07
gangan963with "sudo cfdisk /dev/hdc2" I can see it04:09
gangan963with "sudo cfdisk /dev/hdc" I can see it04:09
bbeckgangan963: On that "Disk & Filesystems" screen did /dev/hdc2 have a mount point listed?04:10
gangan963no04:10
bbeckO.k. that just means that we need to mount it somewhere on your filesystem.04:11
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gangan963ok, I read that it is usual to do it in /media  or /mnt   .... right?   (just asking.. I will do what you are telling)04:12
bbeckYeah, /mnt is where I generally mount my second hard drive.04:12
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gangan963ok.. how should I do that?04:13
bbeckAt the command line type sudo mount -t <filesystem type> /dev/hdc2 /mnt/  (For example on my system I type the following... sudo mount -t reiserfs /dev/hdb1 /mnt/)04:14
gangan963I am now root on the disk&filesystem ... yesterday I enabled " "enable at start up"  ... and after this I have to install KUBUNTU new!!!04:15
bbeckYou should be doing this command from Konsole, not the "Disk & Filesystems" screen.04:16
gangan963gg@linux:~$ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hdc2 /mnt/04:17
gangan963gg@linux:~$04:17
gangan963did it  - nothing happens04:17
bbeckWhen you say nothing happens do you mean that you get no response from the command line, or do you mean that when you do a ls /mnt/ you see nothing there?04:18
gangan963no response from the command line04:20
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bbeckDo a ls /mnt/ , do you see the files on that partition?04:20
gangan963now I tipped in "ls/mnt/" ....again no response04:20
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bbeckyou put a space between ls and /mnt/ right?04:21
gangan963yes i tried both -  no response from the command line04:23
gangan963gg@linux:~$ ls /mnt/04:23
gangan963gg@linux:~$ ls /mnt/04:23
gangan963gg@linux:~$04:23
bbeckCan you see if we successfully mounted the partition by typing mount at the command line and looking for the partition?04:24
gangan963/dev/hdc2 on /media/hdd401 type vfat (rw)04:26
gangan963/dev/hdc2 on /mnt type vfat (rw)04:26
gangan963like you can see it is there two times (is this a problem???) ...because I try it before alone with WIKI04:26
bbeckIs there anything on the partition?  I mean when we did the ls, where we expecting to see files there?  Because it looks like it's mounted alright.04:27
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gangan963it is an old windows partition... how should I look with ls?04:29
bbeckIt should list the files that are on the partition, I was just wondering if we were looking at a partition with nothing on it, and therefore ls showed nothing.  (Also are you certain this isn't an NTFS parition?)04:30
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gangan963sorry... no I am not! ....I was shure,but I dont know why :( ....Now: I thing it has to be an ntfw because winXP was probably on this partition04:34
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gangan963so we can format it! .... no important data04:34
gangan963if it is neccessery04:35
bbeckYou can mount a ntfs partition if you like.  I don't know if you can write to it though.04:35
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gangan963no.. because I am shure that this was an XP system partition... I dont need it anymore!04:37
KnowerrorsHey all, just installed opera deb from plf repos, all plugins working except acrobat, can anybody help?  I used the advice on this wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser?highlight=%28opera%29 about it and still didn't work04:37
bbeckgangan963: do you need help from this point, or are you good to go?04:40
gangan963I need help !!!  :(  ...thanx04:40
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gangan963can you explain me my problem? ... do I have to format into a other system and than do the same???04:41
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bbeckI would suggest using a more linux friendly filesystem for your second drive.04:42
alexcamiloHello, How would you go about installing kubuntu (or any linuix distro) onto a PC with no floppy drive, no CD rom drive, no networking and 1 2.5 inch laptop IDE drive.04:42
thelleonola galera04:43
thelleonto precisando de ajuda04:43
thelleonalgum fala portugus aqui????04:43
gangan963bbeck: ok... I want to use it in common with my win-comp (want to share data win - linux) ...should I now format this partition and which kind of (vfat ext2/3.. or??)04:44
bbeckO.k. at this point if anyone here knows better please speak up because I haven't used Windows in years.  I *think* Windows can only see partitions that use the FAT or NTFS filesystems, so if you want to have a common partition that both Windows and Linux can see you are going to have to choose FAT.04:47
sampani -think- i've seen how-tos that mention there are (freeware?) programs that will let winxp read/write to ext2 or ext3, but he'd have to make sure before going that route04:48
gangan963ok.. but if I make it on FAT.. can linux use this kind without problems? ... windows can of course04:49
sampanyes, i have a fat32 partition (external usb hd) that my kubuntu uses just fine04:50
sampan(haven't figured out how, or even if, i need to defrag it, in linux -- but it reads/writes just fine)04:50
gangan963ok.. so I can format this partition with linux and it will be ok04:51
sampanyes04:51
sampanqtparted works just fine04:51
sampanbut you might have to install it04:51
gangan963is this an kde visible program or command line?04:51
sampanit's a kde GUI partitioning app04:52
sampanvery nice04:52
gangan963I look at the homepage screenshot!.. looks very good ... like partitionmagic04:53
gangan963i will try it ...or should I learn it the old way to do this???04:53
sampan:) yeah it's pretty easy to figure out and works well.  just remember to unmount the drive you're formatting/partitioning before you format/partition04:54
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gangan963ooouuu how should I do this?04:55
bbeckgangan963: sudo umount /mnt/ and sudo umount /media/hdd40104:57
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gangan963bbeck: thank you for you help... I will try to format and than I will look for next....05:01
gangan963sampan:  I insalled qtpart and I can see it in my K-menue.... but it dont want to start! .... must I do somethink like apt-get update/upgrate????05:02
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charwoodI'm trying to configure Kaffeine under Dapper Flight 2.  It says it can't find /dev/dvd and it's right.  I don't have a /dev/dvd or a /dev/hdc.05:04
charwoodHow do I get these to appear?05:04
gangan963I insalled qtpart and I can see it in my K-menue.... but it dont want to start! .... must I do somethink like apt-get update/upgrate????05:04
charwoodgangan963: How did you install it/05:04
charwoodgangan963: If you press <alt>-<F2> and type qtparted, it will open.05:05
gangan963i install it with the packeg manager - adept05:06
charwoodOk.  then you don't need to apt-get/update/upgrade anything.  It's there somewhere.05:06
charwoodI just installed it with apt and it put it in KMenu->System->Qtparted05:07
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charwoodIf it isn't there, I recommend opening a console and typing "sudo qtparted".05:07
leafwwhat is out there for video visualization in kubuntu-ppc ?05:07
leafwno xine, no kaffeine, no media player ?!05:07
charwoodleafw: Sadness.  There is probably vlc/videolan.05:08
robotgeekleafw: why no kaffeine?05:08
charwoodleafw: The interface isn't very flash but it gets the job done.  I'm pretty sure there is a ppc port.05:08
leafwcharwood: sounds good, thank you05:08
leafwlet's see what adept lists05:09
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gangan963charwood: I find it in k-menue - system! but it doesn't open --- but it works with sudo qtparted!  thanx05:10
charwoodgangan963: No problem.05:10
_thiagodoes anyone knows good a repository list? For python modules...05:10
charwoodAny ideas why I don't have a /dev/dvd or /dev/hdc or even a /dev/cdrom?05:11
charwood(Yes, the device does exist and works fine in for instance, a stock debian kernel)05:12
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gangan963can I give a name for the HDD while format with qtparted  ...it is asking me... but I dont now if this use for anythink under linux05:12
charwoodgangan963: There is a field for the name.  I05:13
charwoodI've never seen it used anywhere.05:13
charwoodgangan963: hdparm might have some way of telling you but I can't verify this.05:14
gangan963ok...i will not use it too05:14
gangan963bbeck: are you still there?05:14
bbeckgangan963: yup, how's it going?05:16
gangan963I installed qtparted and it is showing that the HDD is fat1605:17
gangan963we thought it was ntfs because it doesnt work ..but it wasnt05:17
bbeckhuh, that's strange.  We had it successfully mounted, it should have files on it, but ls showed nothing.05:19
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leafwcharwood: actually, kaffeine & xine work like a charm in kubuntu-ppc05:19
leafwcharwood: I had assumed that, since they were not installed by default, they were not there.05:19
leafwlike kde 3.5, which is not out yet.05:19
gangan963bbeck: doesnt matter.. I format it and I will try it anothertime again05:20
bbeckI was just googling to see if perhaps the fact that it was mounted twice would cause us not to see the contents of the partition.05:21
gangan963sampan: I now format a 40GB HDD from fat16 to fat32 ... it takes only a few seconds!!! is this normal???05:22
leafwwhat would anyone recommend, mpegdemux or mpeg2dec? Or are they different?05:22
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sampangangan963  yep -- it doesn't take long at all05:23
gangan963sampan: hmmm  thats nice... win takes at least 10 minutes05:23
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sampangangan963  indeed!  :D   efficiency is a good thing05:24
gangan963:)05:25
charwoodgangan963: There are two kinds of formatting, one the whole drive is rewritten with 0s, the other just the allocation table.  The latter is very fast.  (-805:25
leafwand what does kaffeine/xine need to open mpeg and mov files ?05:26
sampanand i'm not sure the double mount would be a problem.  i have a usb-connected HD that shows up (is mounted) twice: as /media/usbdisk and /media/sda1  -- i can write/read to either location and it's there on both05:26
gangan963bbeck:  can you tell me what I have now to do after I have format at fat32 ??? just about... I will try it then later05:26
charwoodleafw: I kind of thought it was weird that those didn't exist...  Glad you got it working.05:27
leafwyeah, now I need video tho05:27
gangan963charwood: if this is enough for mnt the hdd to the system... I am sattisfied :)05:27
charwoodleafw: Codecs can be found here: http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html05:28
leafwxine claims "no demux can be found", but I just apt-get mpegdemux05:28
leafwand where does one copies them: /usr/share ... ?05:28
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charwoodleafw: Not sure if they work with xine.  But I think /usr/local/lib/codecs?  Not sure.05:28
leafwlet's check05:29
leafwit's a start. thanks05:29
charwoodleafw: Nevermind.  That directory doesn't exist on my computer.05:29
dereks_hey, i noticed that avahi isn't working with my kpf, anyway to fix that?05:29
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charwoodleafw: But that is what mplayer recommends as typical.05:29
leafwcharwood: I'm for xine to run, not mplayer05:29
leafwbut I suspect the codecs are shared ?05:29
leafwno dir "*codecs*" exists in my system05:30
charwoodleafw: Mine either.  Seems we're in the same boat.  kaffeine was going to be my next project after I got my drive recognized...05:31
leafwxD05:31
leafwI'm on it05:31
robotgeekleafw: do you mean w32codecs05:32
leafwrobotgeek: kubuntu-ppc here05:32
leafwdon't know how would those work05:32
robotgeekleafw: ah then, no codecs05:32
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robotgeekleafw: you cant play wmv10 files, i guess05:33
leafwI'm trying to see this: http://www.10mph.com/trailer/index.html05:33
leafwa .mov05:33
robotgeekleafw: install vlc, see if it picks it up05:34
leafwwhat is vlc ?05:34
leafwI see05:35
leafwadept info05:35
robotgeekleafw: it's another video player, with most common codecs included05:35
robotgeekleafw: :) , i am on ppc too05:35
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leafwgreat05:35
Kr0ntabheya folks....05:35
robotgeekhey Kr0ntab05:35
Kr0ntab:-)05:36
leafwrobotgeek: how do you plug vlc to konqueror05:36
leafwcan it run embedded ?05:36
robotgeekleafw: nope05:36
leafwhum ,so file association05:36
Kr0ntabvery irritating problem here.   I'm having an issue with GnuCash, and was hoping KDE might be able to help out the situation.  GnuCash does not remember window positioning or size (i.e. maximization, etc)... and I'm trying to figure out how to get KDE's special window settings/behaviour to maximize the GnuCash window upon opening it.   Just kind of curious if anyone's been able to work this out before.05:36
robotgeekKr0ntab: yes, it should be possible to do that05:37
Kr0ntabyeah I thought so too...  but apparently... GnuCash does not like to cooperate.  hehe05:37
leafwWORKS05:37
leafwgreat robotgeek05:37
robotgeekleafw: great!05:37
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leafwthe only thing I need now, is CMYL in gimp, but that's a dream I'll have to work on05:38
leafwsorry, CMYK05:38
robotgeekKr0ntab: not on my kde machine right now, so can't help you05:38
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gangan963THANK you for all help... see you ... this is the way Kubuntu is making happy ;)05:39
cobelloyhi there - can someone help me with broadband connection?05:39
cobelloygot the installation guy here now05:40
cobelloybut my eth0 is not setup yet05:40
robotgeekcobelloy: do you know if your network card is working?05:40
Kr0ntabno prob...   I think it might be related to the way GNU Cash is started.  The process that runs it is "/usr/bin/guile-1.6 -e main -s /usr/lib/gnucash/overrides/gnucash"    so Im not sure if the "window class" is matching correctly or what.05:40
cobelloyit works with windows - i think05:40
cobelloyall in one mobo - fairly new, but never actually used it05:41
cobelloybut windows sees it fine05:41
cobelloywould rather use linux tho05:41
cobelloyit was not setup during ubuntu installation05:41
robotgeekcobelloy: hm, can you paste the output of 'sudo lshw -class NETWORK" to the pastebin05:42
cobelloyrighto - hang on,05:42
cobelloyHarware Lister (lshw) - A.01.0305:42
cobelloyusage: lshw [-options ...] 05:42
cobelloy        -version      print program version05:42
cobelloy        -html         output hardware tree as HTML05:42
cobelloy        -xml          output hardware tree as XML05:42
cobelloy        -short        output hardware paths05:42
cobelloyoh - hang on, thats not right !!05:43
robotgeekcobelloy: to the pastebin05:43
robotgeek!pastebin05:43
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org05:43
robotgeekcobelloy: yes, that's not right05:43
cobelloyright - hang on05:43
cobelloyok - I just keep getting the help instructions ?05:45
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cobelloybrb05:46
robotgeekjust paste sudo lshw then05:46
leafwrobotgeek: what about divx on kubuntu-ppc05:47
robotgeekleafw: vlc shud play, it, maybe not divx6 or the newer one05:47
leafwok, good :)05:48
cobelloyok im back - doing lshw now05:50
naliothleafw: ppc development for things is lacking in some areas05:51
cobelloyright - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/687105:51
cobelloythats the output05:51
cobelloyI have divx movies that play on my daughters imac - ubuntu ppc05:52
cobelloyusing vlc player05:52
leafwnalioth: no wonder, ppc is going to hell soon, since most linxu-ppc are on laptops or high-end G5 (I believE)05:52
leafwcobelloy: that's good news05:52
leafwthere's mplayer-powerpc as well.05:52
naliothleafw: ppc isnt gone yet.05:53
leafwnalioth: I know, I run YDL on my big stations.05:53
leafwnalioth: and IBM is both supporting linux and developing Power chips.05:53
robotgeekleafw: i gave up after dependency hell05:53
leafwYDL ?05:54
naliothand apple has not said they are dropping ppc05:54
naliothleafw: yellow dog linux05:54
leafwfor the laptop it's not worth it.05:54
naliothyellow dog linux = fedora core = redhat = "not on your life"05:54
charwoodSorry to beat everyone over the head with this, but I can't find any way to make /dev/dvd exist.05:54
leafwnalioth: my point was, I've seen most linux-ppc on apple laptops, and these are going to intel.05:54
naliothleafw: true.05:55
leafwnalioth: "not on your life" ?05:55
naliothleafw: i dont have time for RPM-Hell05:55
robotgeekcobelloy: lsmod output also, please05:55
leafwnalioth: I run very limited amount of packages. YDL is not for desktop05:55
charwoodnalioth: I suppose since we're on the hallowed grounds of #kubuntu, I can say 'Preach it brother!' / or sister?05:55
naliothcharwood: i've used many distros. i find i have much to compare with05:56
leafw.by the way: a beatiful desktop: http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/122706main_hurricane_emily1.jpg05:56
leafwwith the moon hovering over the eye.05:56
charwoodleafw: Wow.  That's something.05:56
leafwcharwood: read here http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/multimedia/hurricane_emily1.html05:57
cobelloyright - just consulting tech guy, hng on05:59
leafwtime to go, cy'll06:02
robotgeekcobelloy: i've got to go now, but feel free to ask in #ubuntu as well. good luck06:04
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wsjuniorsup guys, i was thinking about to test kubuntu here. does anybody knows a step-by-step guide to the instalation of the most recent kubuntu? (i mean that one already with kde 3.5 packages)06:11
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naliothwsjunior: that version is not ready for production machines06:13
computinchucki'm using the fglrx kernel driver package and having quite a bit of trouble, i can't get direct rendering enabled and it keeps loading agpgart despite specifying it to use the interal agp driver06:14
wsjuniornalioth: i'm planning to just test it at my desktop machine..06:14
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manveruwsjunior: if you're wanting the new version you might get some trouble, it's not quite finished yet (tho it's more stable than some think)06:15
naliothubotu: tell wsjunior about dapper06:15
cobelloyOK, im back - looks like I missed robotgeek tho - if anyone else can help tho?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/687206:15
wsjuniormanveru: are the kde 3.5 packages reasonable stable?06:16
wsjuniornalioth: thanks06:16
naliothcobelloy: what do you need help with?06:16
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naliothwsjunior: define "reasonable"06:16
manveruwsjunior: 3.5 is 'reasonable' stable, tho not in combination with dapper, i guess06:17
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wsjuniormanveru: so the best thing would be to get the latest stable kubuntu and just updrage kde packages?!06:17
manveruyeah06:18
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manveru!kde3.506:18
ubotuhmm... kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php06:18
wsjuniormanveru: another question.. i have an ubuntu 5.10 cd here.. is there a way to install it and transform it in kubuntu?06:18
manveruhmm, yeah06:19
wsjuniormanveru: how?06:19
manverujust run 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'06:19
manveruwill download some stuff and install kde/kdm/apps and stuff06:19
wsjuniormanveru: simple like that?06:19
manverui hope so06:19
naliothwsjunior: ubuntu is simple06:19
cobelloynalioth - I need to configure my ethernet so I can hook the comp up to broadband06:20
wsjuniori really love slackware, but i wanna stop doing everything by hands06:20
wsjuniori'll install kubuntu right now so. thanks everyone for the help. c ya later06:21
cobelloyI have the installation guy here putting the sattelite and router thing in right now06:21
cobelloynalioth - r u still there?06:22
stevenjCould someone tell me the easiest way to install Tahoma font06:22
stevenjuse cab or install font06:22
cobelloysteven you should have a fonts folder you can put ttf fonts in06:22
cobelloysomething like ///:fonts in konk address bar I think06:22
stevenjinstall fonts from systems systems06:22
stevenjthanks06:23
cobelloyI could B wrong tho06:23
stevenjI can take dejuvo fonts anymore06:23
cobelloycan anyone help me get my ethernet configured?06:23
stevenjcant06:23
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cobelloysteven - put tahoma here - /usr/share/fonts/truetype06:25
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cobelloyjust copy it from a windows fonts folder06:25
cobelloyand it should just work06:25
cobelloyyou can put any ttf fonts you want in there06:26
_charwoodHow do I enabled Superkaramba stuffs in KDE 3.5?  Isn't it built in?06:26
stevenjthanks06:27
naliothcobelloy: yes i'm here06:28
ejofeein kde / kcontrol / appearance and themes / [desktop's]  background: when i press the "get new wallpapers" [from the internet] , a window *immediately* pops up on which is written "empty page" (so it won't download any wallpaper). can anybody please help me?06:28
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naliothcobelloy: click alt-f2 > kdesu network-admin06:29
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cyneanyone know how to find which package sendmail is in?07:10
nalioth!info sendmail07:10
ubotusendmail: (powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent), section universe/mail, is extra. Version: 8.13.4-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 187 kB, Installed size: 244 kB07:10
naliothcyne: easy question07:10
cyne:P07:10
cyneah. it's in the universe repository that's why i can't find it :P07:11
cyne!info universe07:11
naliothubotu: tell cyne about repos07:11
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naliothcyne: enable universe and multiverse07:11
cyneyes07:11
naliothcyne: you have a PM07:11
cynei had it all setup before but i had to reinstall kubunutu07:11
naliothstay away from non official repos07:15
cyne!easysource07:16
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:16
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naliothcyne: be wary of all the repos on the bottom of that page07:19
cyneok nalioth07:19
cynethankyou07:19
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LinuxMonkhelp i got a major problem07:29
LinuxMonki just installed a program to come to find out it copied the root pw as its own yet i had not changed it to my own yet, so I uninstall the package and now when i try to re-install it wont fully install cause it says it was a previously deselected package. how do I fix this07:30
crimsunplease provide the full errors on pastebin07:31
LinuxMonkthere no errors thats the problem07:31
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crimsunthat can't be, otherwise you'd have no issue07:31
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LinuxMonkok it installs some of the files but not all, i get no error, is there a way to tell the install system that it was never installed in the first place07:32
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blackflagI have a question to the network profis08:17
blackflagIs it okay to do IP-aliasing on routers?08:18
blackflagis that a good design?08:18
blackflagOr is it better to have only one IP on the interfaces?08:18
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blackflagcause someone tell me08:19
blackflagIP-aliasing is a bad design and breaks broadcasting08:20
blackflagthat was totally new to me08:20
blackflagnever heard that before08:20
blackflagso, someone is here how can tell something about?08:20
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_DOddoHi! I have the stranges problem when attempting to install mozilla firefox, can someone please help me?08:22
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blackflagwhat is the problem?08:23
_DOddoblackflag: ive downloadet the program from their website, untared the file, but i can't run the firefox file without being sudo, and ./firefox just opens the browser window08:25
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blackflagWhy you dont use adept to install or manually in console?08:26
blackflagapt-get install firefox08:26
_DOddoblackflag: when i apt-get the file it seems to install correctly but when i try to run the file, it loads for a while but it doesn't run08:27
blackflagokay, it is a good idea to start firefox in console08:27
blackflaggo in bash and type onlay firefox08:28
_DOddoblackflag: nothing happens when I do that, except the program loads for a while...08:28
blackflagmay be is it a good idea to begin from new08:29
blackflagin that caases I install "synaptic" cause here here you can remove all cons..08:29
blackflagconfigs^08:29
blackflagafter that you can install firefox new in synaptic08:30
blackflagall should run now08:30
_DOddoblackflag:okay  ill give it a try =)08:30
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blackflagokay , tell when you are succesfull or not08:31
_DOddoblackflag: 'kay08:31
blackflag?08:31
blackflagforgott something08:32
blackflaghave you set your apt to a server in internet?08:32
blackflagto get the files?08:32
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blackflag"apt-setup" ?point to a server near you08:33
blackflagand try the installation08:33
_DOddoblackflag: apt-setup okay ill try that08:34
blackflaghave you done this?08:35
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quangdungxhi, i want use unicode in kubuntu08:40
quangdungxcan you help me?08:40
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doddoblackflag: nah it still wont work properly08:43
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blackflagokay , we try step by step08:43
doddoblackflag: okay08:44
blackflaggo to console08:44
doddodone08:44
blackflagtype "sudo -s"08:44
blackflagenter your password08:44
doddodone08:45
blackflagokay now: "apt-setup"08:45
blackflaga blue screen appear08:45
quangdungxwhat are you doing?08:45
doddoblackflag: done08:46
blackflagnow you should be able to select access via cdrom, ftp, http...08:46
blackflagright?08:47
doddoright08:47
blackflagchoose ftp08:47
blackflagselect a server near your country or in your country08:47
doddookay and country should be sweden for me as i am in sweden.08:47
doddoblackflag: okay now i apt-get update or?08:48
blackflagyou can do that08:49
blackflagjust do be shure08:49
doddoblackflag: okay done =)08:49
blackflagokay, " apt-get install firefox"08:49
blackflagwhat is going on?08:50
doddoits installing ..08:51
doddoblackflag: nah it still wont run!08:51
blackflagyou are in console?08:52
doddoyup08:52
blackflagit could be that you need the package "mozilla-firefox"08:53
blackflagso try " apt-get install mozilla-firefox"08:53
doddoblackflag: i give it a try08:53
ejofeein kde / kcontrol / appearance and themes / [desktop's]  background: when i press the "get new wallpapers" [from the internet] , a window *immediately* pops up on which is written "empty page" (so it won't download any wallpaper). can anybody please help me?08:54
doddoblackflag: still doesn't work08:54
blackflagwhat you are doing?08:54
blackflagtry  in console "firefox"08:54
doddoblackflag: apt-get install mozilla firefox and in console "firefox" doesnt work08:55
blackflagokay we go over synaptic08:56
blackflagtype "synaptic"08:56
doddookay ive started synaptic08:56
blackflagsearch for firefox08:56
doddookay08:57
blackflagohh try typing firfox without the""08:57
doddodone08:57
doddookay08:57
blackflagnow you see if its installed08:57
blackflagif not, select the packages aou need and install it08:57
doddoit says that it is08:58
blackflagokay then try typing again firefox08:58
blackflagwithout the "08:58
blackflagdo it as normal user08:59
doddonothing happened this time either, i do not get an error msg and the program doesnt launch08:59
blackflagis firefox in KDE menu > Internet ?09:00
doddonope09:00
blackflagokay you have a console open as a normal user09:00
blackflagif not open it09:01
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blackflagand try typing again firefox09:01
blackflagis this dont run09:01
blackflagls /usr/bin09:01
blackflagand look if firefox is there09:01
doddo__ok09:02
blackflagfirefox is in ?09:02
doddo__yeah it is there09:02
doddo__yep09:02
doddo__in /usr/bin i have a firefox file09:02
blackflagis it executable?09:03
blackflagls -l09:03
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blackflagyou can try typing in console /usr/bin/firfox09:04
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doddo__lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 30 2006-01-10 08:50 firefox -> ../lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox09:04
blackflagokay try /usr/bin/firefox09:05
doddo__it says there's no such file or cataloge09:06
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viviersferm09:06
blackflagthat can not be09:06
doddo__ah i spelled it wrong09:06
blackflagyou say it is in there09:06
blackflagcheck if you type correctly09:07
doddo__yep its cyan09:07
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doddo__blackflag: same it wont start!09:08
blackflagmay be it a permission thing09:08
blackflaggo in console09:09
blackflagas root09:09
blackflagsudo -s09:09
blackflagand try again /usr/bin/firefox09:09
doddo__okay09:09
doddo__cannot open display. should i try to chown firefox?09:10
blackflagyes09:11
doddo__..same result; nothing happened09:11
blackflagokay , I woul recommend that you remove all firoxes with synaptic09:12
blackflagand installing again with synaptic09:12
doddo__okay im removing all firefoxes09:13
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doddo__and installing...09:15
doddo__naah it still doesnt run :/09:15
ejofeedapper will use xorg 6.9 or xorg 7.0?09:16
blackflagtell me what you are doing09:16
ejofeenothing, i just want to know09:16
ejofeei don't use dapper yet09:16
doddo__blackflag i installed it with synaptic and then i ran console and wrote "firefox" without ""09:17
blackflagtry th whole path: /usr/bin/firefox09:17
doddo__blackflag: same result ..09:18
doddo__blackflag: do i need "firefox-dev" ?09:18
blackflagyou have an error msg?09:18
blackflagno09:19
doddo__blackflag: nah no error message09:19
blackflagwhat happens?09:19
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doddo__blackflag:  nothing at all09:20
s_spiffhello pppl09:20
blackflagthat can not be09:20
s_spiff just got my 5 CD set of Ubuntu!09:20
s_spiff by mail!09:20
doddo__blackflag: doddo@puh:/usr/bin$ /usr/bin/firefox09:21
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doddo__blackflag: doddo@puh:/usr/bin$09:21
doddo__blackflag: thats what happens09:21
rjbhello #kubuntu09:22
rjbgot a question: how do i stop kscd from popping up when an audio cd is inserted?09:22
blackflagokay, try kbuildsycoca in concole09:22
s_spiffrjb, check out its preferences, may have a option for it09:23
blackflagdoddo^09:23
doddo__blackflag: as sudo or as regular user?09:23
blackflagor try a reboot09:23
blackflagas user09:24
doddo__kbuildsycoca: ERROR creating database '/var/tmp/kdecache-doddo/ksycoca'09:25
blackflagdoddo: and as root?09:26
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rjbs_spiff: indeed there is an `autoplay' option, but unchecking it seems to have no effect09:26
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s_spiff umm... did u try the wiki for anything on it rjb?09:27
DreamlessHey i have a problem i get this when i try to run Kdevdesigner: QPainter::begin: Cannot paint null pixmap09:27
Dreamlessim using the fglrx driver..09:27
doddo__blackflag: i get a lot of warning messages and Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-doddo" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.09:27
blackflagokay, th en I would look who is the owner of that file09:30
blackflagIt should you09:30
rjbs_spiff: nuthinn found09:33
doddo__blackflag:  who should be the owner?09:34
blackflagyou, the user09:34
doddo__blackflag: it is now. i changed it09:35
blackflagboth. user and group?09:35
blackflagthen run again as user kbuildsycoca09:36
doddo__blackflag: IT WORKS NOW thanks a lot09:36
blackflagokay :-)09:36
doddo__blackflag:  thanks for letting me waste your time like that :-)09:37
blackflagits okay09:37
blackflagsometimes I have questions too09:38
blackflagand that was Internet and Linux make it great09:38
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blackflagand the people who helping and using it09:38
doddo__blackflag: absolutely09:38
blackflagand how is the wheater in sweden?09:39
blackflagcold09:39
blackflag?09:39
doddo__blackflag: i dont know ive stayed inside but yesturday it was quite cold and they where removing snow from the roofs so you had to walk in the middle of the street09:40
blackflagnice, walking with ski's?09:40
doddo__blackflag: something like that %) How's the weather where you are from?09:41
blackflagIam from germany its cold and grey, no snow here09:42
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doddo__blackflag: i see germany, its quite nice there?09:43
doddo__except for the weather09:43
blackflagits okay, could be better! how everywhere09:44
rjbduh, doesn't anyone know how to disable kscd autostarting ?09:45
doddo__okay =)09:45
doddo__blackflag: i have another question for you; how do i chown all the files in a directory?09:46
rjbchown user:group *09:46
rjbchown -R ... to work down subdirectories09:46
blackflaghave a look to man chown09:47
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doddo__rjb: thanx09:48
rjboh & another q: howto customize kdm login screen in kubuntu?09:49
rjbthe kdm setting module that usually does it in kde doesn't seem to work09:49
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cplusplushi09:54
cpluspluswhats the difference between live and intall cd?09:55
Tm_Tlivecd=you run system from cd without installing anything09:55
ilba7rlive cd for testing. It does not install anything on hard disk but you run the operating system from the cd09:55
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rjbwow. are there no kubuntu users with a clue hanging out here?10:02
rjbtoo bad. CU10:05
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motyHi, new with kubuntu...10:16
ilba7rhi moty10:16
motywhich debian repo's can be used with kubuntu breezy10:16
ilba7r!repos10:16
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource10:16
motybut those r not debian repositories?10:17
ilba7rmoty it is not advisable to add debian for ubunttu rules diff a little from deb10:18
ilba7rmoty some packages work fine some might break your sys10:18
motyyea i know10:18
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motyi just wants some debs that for some reason ubuntu still havent got them10:19
wsjuniorhello guys, i've just installed kubuntu 5.10 and i'd like to upgrade kde to 3.5. does anybody can tell how to do that?10:19
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motyok and what about firefox 1.5 deb? is there any?10:27
ilba7r!FF1510:28
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, ilba7r10:28
ilba7r!FIREFIX10:28
ubotuilba7r: Did you get hit by a windmill?10:28
ilba7r!ff 1.510:28
ubotuilba7r: No idea10:28
motyha?10:28
ilba7rthere is a page on the wiki10:29
ilba7r!ff10:29
ubotuilba7r: What?10:29
cplusplusbut i think you can install all from livecd or no?10:29
motyso is there any?10:29
ilba7rmotty firefox can not be installed without breaking some packages for servers10:29
ilba7rlet me search the link on how to instal it on your pc10:30
motyso the answer is not there arent10:30
cplusplusilba7r install cd right?10:30
ilba7rnope there is one for dapper not for breezy10:30
motywell i use breezy10:30
ilba7rcplusplus, you need the install cd to install ubontu10:30
motyso its still no10:30
motywonder why10:30
ilba7r!firefox10:31
motythe same with debain based distro's10:31
cplusplusilba7r but at gentoo i used live cd to install the system!?10:31
ilba7r!firefox10:31
motyallways 2 years behind10:31
cplusplushm...maybe because i downloaded all packages from internet?10:31
ilba7rt1tell moty about firefox10:31
ilba7r!tell moty about firefox10:31
ilba7rat last10:32
ilba7rfffffffffff10:32
ilba7rmoty you can just download the tar from firefox and run it directly10:32
motyso guys i'm really confused in here10:32
motyr there any 1.5 firefox debs?10:32
ilba7rmoty there is an explanation on distrowatch by the backport guys on why not it is risky to even backport firefox 1.5 on breezy10:33
motyok i see10:33
motyok and another one...10:34
motywhat about some eye candies like taskbarc2 kbfx and such r there any debs?10:34
motyfor breezy10:34
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ilba7rmoty i do not know. you can try synaptic or ubotu10:35
ilba7r!info kbfx10:36
motythere is no one on ubuntu10:36
ilba7rso type it as i did !info and then package name ubotu will search the package list for you10:36
ilba7rmoty if it is not there you can request it be added to drapper10:37
ilba7rsorry dapper now i will be away continue watching my movie take care10:37
DreamlessHey i have a problem i get this when i try to run Kdevdesigner: QPainter::begin: Cannot paint null pixmap is there any way i can upgrade kde and might get the problem to go away?10:38
moty3 years with linux 1.5 with gentoo and i can clearly say there aint not even one distro that can forfill my needs10:38
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josehi all10:39
josei hope someone can help me with my wireless because i'm getting crazy :D10:39
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brosioozanyone known if exist a c/c++ compilator for windows mobile 2005 for pda ?10:52
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keithalexanderhas anyone got speedtouch workin on kubuntu-ppc?10:55
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lotusnethaiiii11:03
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josehi11:05
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ilba7rjose i might help a little11:08
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m0ns00nHey11:37
m0ns00nIsn't it possible to copy a file tree over another one without replacing folders?11:37
m0ns00nI tried Krusader now11:37
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m0ns00nI'm copying a folder "contrib/" over another folder "contrib/" to add files to the folder11:37
m0ns00nBut KDE wants to replace that folder entirely11:37
m0ns00nIs there another way?11:37
ilba7rm0ns00n, try rsync11:38
m0ns00nrsync?11:38
m0ns00nWhy on earth?11:38
ilba7ri guess you are trying to syncornize both folders right11:38
m0ns00nThen I could prolly use copy -R11:38
m0ns00nSure11:38
m0ns00nbut with GUI11:38
m0ns00nKDE can't copy file trees?11:38
ilba7rdo not know a gui one11:39
m0ns00nLOL11:39
m0ns00nhehe11:39
m0ns00nThe KDE developers can't use the GUI they developed much then11:39
m0ns00n=)11:39
ilba7ram not a developer just a user like you11:39
m0ns00nI know11:39
m0ns00nIt's just annoying11:39
m0ns00nOne of the few11:39
dipnlikm0ns00n: you could enter the 1st contrib folder, select all, copy, enter the 2nd contrib then paste :)11:40
m0ns00nWel11:40
m0ns00nThere are other subfolders11:40
m0ns00nin the folder I am copying and the source11:40
dipnlikhm11:40
m0ns00nwhich are the same with different files11:40
ilba7rrsync is just oneliner much faster11:40
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ilba7rlet me give you the syntax11:40
m0ns00nI should file a bug report "wishlist"11:40
dipnlikif they are the same, then rsync! :D11:40
m0ns00nhogne@utvikling:~/Desktop$ rsync contrib aros/contrib11:41
m0ns00nskipping directory contrib11:41
ilba7rrsync -avzog <source> <destination>11:42
m0ns00noki11:42
ilba7rmake a copy beofre you use it then experiment with it11:42
ilba7rzog will preserve ownership11:43
dipnlikm0ns00n: you can always use -n on rsync for it to not commit any changes11:46
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dipnlikm0ns00n: so you can get sure it is doing the right things11:46
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m0ns00nDon't you agree that there should be an option to KDE to use this when copying folders?11:49
m0ns00nIn addition to link?11:49
m0ns00nPerhaps there are already11:49
m0ns00nI haven't checked kde-look/apps11:49
m0ns00nIt's very often that I need this functionality, and it's faster if it would work in a gui11:49
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Krishnautixhey I installed ipmsg, i wanna know, how to get that thing in my menu?11:59
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thegladiatorkde 3.5 is not stable ?12:56
thegladiatorbeep beep12:56
Hobbseeit's reasonably stable - some people have problems, some dont12:57
thegladiatori am having  few problems as well12:57
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thegladiatorlike when I open settings , I might not see the apply button12:58
wsjuniorwhich is the prefix to compile new programs for kde?12:58
wsjuniorkde-config --prefix tells me /usr12:58
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thegladiatorwhen I open system settings I cant see apply button!12:59
wsjuniorbut i get an error like "in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed...."12:59
Hobbseewsjunior: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-devel12:59
wsjuniorHobbsee: thanks12:59
Hobbseeno problems12:59
thegladiatorkaramba is very cool01:00
Hobbseeit is :_01:01
Hobbsee*:)01:01
wsjuniorHobbsee: it doesn't exists... :( is that the right name?01:02
Hobbseeoops!01:02
Hobbseekde-devel01:02
wsjunior:)01:02
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wsjuniorHobbsee: it seems that this package depends on other kde4 packages..01:05
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Hobbseewsjunior: yes, and the problem?01:06
wsjuniorkdelibs4-dev and libkonq4-dev01:06
wsjuniorwell..01:06
mvvHi guys, is there a common way to check a revision number of an already compiled app?01:06
Hobbseemvv: appname --version01:07
Hobbseeusually works01:07
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Hobbseeif it's in the repos, apt-cache show01:07
wsjuniorHobbsee: isn't there any problems since i'm using kde 3.5?01:08
mvvHobbsee: i am sorry, i meant a SVN version01:08
Hobbseewsjunior: it should be fine01:08
Hobbseemvv: no clue then, sorry01:09
mvvHobbsee: aight, thanks anyway :)01:09
wsjuniortoo much complication just to compile a simple program, but i'll try01:09
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jahi01:15
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Hobbseehi01:17
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jawhen I logout of GNOME (running in gdm) I have the option of hibernating my laptop but when I use KDE (running on kdm) I only have the option to end current session, reboot or shutdown.  How can I hibernate from KDE?01:18
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Hobbseeja: the klaptop demon at the bottom corner of your scren01:23
jaHobbsee: Thanks :-)01:23
Hobbseeno problems01:24
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wifi-pulubihelp01:43
wifi-pulubimy kubuntu setup disabled 2 nic cards, error uccurs when i enable it01:44
wifi-pulubii want to setup pppoe on one of the nic01:44
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dec0dingis there any additional ISO to download for people that use Kubuntu without Internet access?01:54
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burepeI am trying to use qtorrent, but it won't show up in the menu and when I start the gui from the command line I can't see how to change the ports. Any suggestions?01:59
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mase!webcam02:03
ubotumethinks webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.02:03
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burepe!qtorrent02:11
ubotuburepe: I give up, what is it?02:11
burepe!ktorrent02:11
ubotu[ktorrent]  a KDE bittorrent client. It is available in breezy/universe, while the latest version is available in breezy-backports/universe.02:11
masemake: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.02:13
masehow do i fix this02:13
ninapina!firefox02:13
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ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion02:14
ninapinahmm. no firefox 1.5 .deb via apt?02:14
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Hobbseeno02:15
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nase!mp302:18
ubotump3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:18
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ninapinaso (k)ubuntu does not offer an apt-get'able .deb for firefox 1.5?? that's really poor!! probably the most used app of all!?!02:27
naseyou can just download the latest  .deb and install it02:28
kkathmanninapina: in fact, (k)ubuntu does have an apt-getable for firefox just not the most recent release02:28
naseCould not connect to mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl:80 (64.5.53.83)02:29
nasecan anyone else connect to it?02:29
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kkathmanninapina: this of course, makes sense. Like, most distros, people working on ubuntu are volunteers and when getting the most recent version of FF1.5 in this case is so easy, its rather stupid to spend resources to create a deb.02:30
jorikhow can i have the text under the icons on my dekstop be white ?02:30
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ninapinakkathman - so you saying that it is more sensible that each and every user of firefox install manually, rather than one .deb is created and install automagically whenever one updates the rest of the system? sounds very non-community like to me - and very individualised - but that is not to say that i don't appreciate that there is a lot of voluntary effort.02:34
kkathmanninapina: in the case of firefox, yes02:35
kkathmanfor crying out loud, you downolad it and untar it, create a symlink and your done...not rocket science02:35
nasemirror2.ubuntulinux.nl not working for me..02:36
nasedoes it work for anyone?02:36
kkathmanworks for me nase02:37
nasewtf... why doesnt it work here02:37
kkathmani dunno02:37
nasealso02:37
nasemake: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.02:37
nasewhy do i keep getting this02:37
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nasei already have linux-kernel-headers installed02:37
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naseany ideas? :/02:39
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kkathmannase you probably need to update using Adept, then do a dist-upgrade on breezy, since the current linux kernel is 2.6.12-1002:39
nasealright02:40
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nasefull upgrade on adept?02:40
kkathmannase, well anything that shows it needs upgrading :)02:40
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crystuferHey, what would I do to solve a printer issue?02:41
nasethrow it at the wall02:42
crystuferThe printer just stopped working.02:42
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kkathmancrystufer: anything done to the system between the time it last worked?02:43
crystuferYeah. I installed a bunch of stuff.02:44
crystuferSunJava, Limewire, gtkpod, amule, bittorent02:44
kkathmancrystufer: is it a direct connect printer or through cups to another printer?02:45
crystufercups to a directly connected printer.02:45
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kkathmancrystufer: ok, first I'd remove the printer completely, reboot, then add the printer back and see if that doesnt solve the problem.02:46
nasekkathman,  how will i remove the previous kernel from GRUB and all after i install the new one?02:46
crystuferAnything I should try after that, or should I just return?02:47
kkathmannase:  you dont have to remove the kernel from GRUB, one of the beauties of (k)ubuntu is that when a new kernel is installed it automatically updates the GRUB for you.02:47
kkathmannase just download the updates, and do a dist-upgrade through sudo apt-get02:47
naseyes..02:47
nasewell02:48
naseadept is installing it for me02:48
naseo_O02:48
kkathmanthere are alot of upgrades today for some reason :)02:48
nasebut i mean02:49
naseleave the OLD kernel off grub02:49
naseand my HD02:49
naseonly leave the new one02:49
kkathmannase the dist-upgrade I believe does this automatically...I've never had to manually adjust my GRUB for a kernel upgrade02:50
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ganymedhallo.02:56
kkathmanhi ganymed :)02:56
ganymedi would like to write from windows to a linux partition. does anybody know whether and how can do that02:58
ganymed?02:58
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ganymedor is there an easy and SAVE way to write to ntfs in linux?03:03
dec0dingis there any additional ISO to download for people that use Kubuntu without Internet access?03:03
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kkathmanganymed: you can copy from windows to a linux partition just fine03:06
dec0dingis there any additional ISO to download for people that use Kubuntu without Internet access?03:06
kkathmandec0ding: not at present03:06
karlwrkganymed: captive is allegedly working well and reliably03:07
ganymedno. then the reverse03:07
dec0dingdamn03:07
karlwrkalso, there's kernel option for ntfs write that claims it is reliable03:07
ganymedeither i copy from win to lin in windows or the reverse in linux... i just want to avoid using fat32 :)03:07
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sps_brhi all! need some help here, my "us_intl" keyboard option is gone in kde, anyone have the same problem?03:08
ganymedand i want to have the /home partition there... so it should be really "linux-proof"03:08
karlwrkit might just have a different name, have you tried system settings->regional and accesibility?03:09
thegladiatorADEPT is crashing after every install/upgrade that I do . what could be the cause of this ? it does till the last stage seemingly of the installation , and closes all by itself ! and kde signals a crash . I am using kde 3.5 using #kubuntu-dektop package03:09
karlwrkyou want to have /home on ntfs?03:09
karlwrkwho are you trying to protect from whom?03:09
thegladiatorcan someone enlighten me about adept crashing every now and then ?03:10
thegladiatori mean after installation  only ?03:11
karlwrkadept is just buggy, best I can tell :)03:11
ganymedi need to have win and linux on one pc... and i wanna use a /home dir that is on a separat partition, that can be accessed from windows (r/w)...03:11
thegladiatorkarlwrk, have you felt it also ?03:11
kkathmanthegladiator: I can tell you its never crashed on me since I installed03:11
thegladiatorkkathman, :(03:11
karlwrkit crashed on me about 5 timss in the first 2 days03:11
kkathmanthegladiator: you can, of course, use other methods03:11
thegladiatorits crashing on me after installation03:12
thegladiatoryes . i have synaptic03:12
sps_brcan someone help? my "us_intl" keyboard option is gone in kde 3.503:12
thegladiatorthe one I prefer03:12
karlwrkit's a much nicer browser than apt-cache search03:12
thegladiatorshud install kynaptic i guess03:12
karlwrksps_br: did you try my suggestion?03:12
kkathmansynaptic should work, or just the apt-get system03:12
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sps_brkarlwrk: its not there anymore, it was called "us with deadkeys"03:13
kkathmansps_br:  K-menu, System Settings, Regional&Accessibility, Keyboard Layouts03:14
karlwrkso it was there?03:14
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sps_brkarlwrk: it was b4 upgrade to kde 3.503:15
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sps_brkarlwrk: i am running kanotix now (dual boot kanotix/kubuntu) same problem after kde 3.5 upgrade03:16
sps_brkarlwrk: don't know if its caused by kde 3.5 or xorg 6.903:16
karlwrkmy only thought would be that it has changed it's name03:16
karlwrkyou upgr5aded xorg as well?03:17
sps_brkarlwrk: yes, i did03:17
sps_brkarlwrk: hehe, in kubuntu and kanotix, so i dont know the cause03:17
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ismailhi all03:17
kkathmanIm not 100% sure that kde3.5 and xorg 7 are in sync :)03:18
thegladiatorhas any one checked out the system settings in KDE 3.5 ?03:18
ismaili m trying to setup kdm theme manager03:18
ismailbut i cant03:18
kkathmanI know, for a fact, that kde3.5 is out of sync with many apps03:18
thegladiatorthere seems  to be some major bugs in kde 3.5 system setting03:18
crystuferOkay, so I can't get my printer going again. Every time I start the printer it looks like it's working, but then as soon as I send it a job, it shows it not working.03:18
kkathmancrystufer: can you print a test page?03:18
crystuferNope.03:19
ismailhow can i change my theme03:19
ismail:'((03:19
kkathmanjsmail systemsettings, appearance03:19
crystuferismail start>system settings03:19
crystuferappearance03:19
crystufertheme manager03:19
ganymedhave to go. thx and ciao03:19
ismaili dont have theme manager03:19
crystuferAre you using kubuntu?03:20
ismailyes03:20
kkathmancrystufer: you went through the printer wizard in the systemsettings?03:20
ismail64 bit03:20
crystuferThen you have theme manager.03:20
crystuferkkathman: Yes.03:20
ismailno really03:20
Prozachow do i setup a user-defined identd?03:20
thegladiatorcan someone using kde 3.5 please help me by checking out a bug ?03:20
crystuferismail it might not be in that menu. Try using the konquerer system settings menu.03:20
thegladiatoron kde 3.5 please open ---> K panel ---> systm settings03:20
ismailok03:21
thegladiatoropen system settings menu and click on appearance03:21
thegladiatorsomeone?03:21
ismailok03:21
ismailthen03:21
crystuferthegladiator: I'm working on it.03:21
kkathmancrystufer: what does the system show as the address to your printer03:21
thegladiatorcrystufer, isnt that a bug ?03:21
crystuferparallel:/dev/lp003:21
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crystuferthegladiator: I don't see anything.03:22
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thegladiatorcrystufer, you dont see no bugs do you mean?03:22
ismaili m looking system settins for 3 days03:22
kkathmancrystufer: hmm, but didnt you tell me that it was on another computer on the network?03:22
ismaili m gettig crayz03:22
crystuferI mean I don't know what I'm looking for, thegladiator. But if I resize I get problems.03:22
kkathmanismail:  alt-f2  type systemsettings03:23
thegladiatorcrystufer, resizing is what I am talking about03:23
crystuferkkathman: No, it's on mine, but I'm using the cupsd.03:23
thegladiatorcrystufer, when U resize the background window overlaps or somrthing correct ?03:23
kkathmancrystufer: oh ok, I just misunderstood03:23
thegladiatorcrystufer, isnt that the nature of the problem ?03:23
ismailkkathman there is no03:23
crystuferthegladiator: No, when I resize, it shows the system settings menu.03:23
crystuferAnd I can't use the back button. I've been using the konquerer menu.03:24
crystuferWay more usable.03:24
thegladiatorexactly thats the problem I am having as well , you cant press apply as well , no ?03:24
kkathmanismail:  you have a some major problems then I'd say03:24
thegladiatorlike the apply button etc is missing , when you resize u see the setting menu03:24
kkathmanismail: did you install from a CD or upgrade?03:24
thegladiatorcorrect crystufer ?03:24
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ismailinstall from a cd03:25
crystuferthegladiator: I'd just open konquerer and use that system menu. You are correct. Big bug.03:25
kkathmanismail: kubuntu CD ?03:25
ismailyes03:25
thegladiatorBig Big Bug . hope they resolve it next tie atleaset . You can use knqueror or kcontrol directly03:25
crystuferkkathman: So I tried that reboot thing. Didn't work.03:26
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crystuferAnd I think cupsd is still running, because the jobs show up on my tray, but no printing occurs.03:26
ismaili open kcontrol03:27
kkathmanismail:  I wonder if you could hit alt-f2 and type   kate /etc/apt/sources.list   and then cut and paste the contents to paste.ubuntu-nl.org please.03:27
ismailthen i changed it03:27
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crystuferPaste bin!!!!03:27
crystufer!paste03:27
ubotuhmm... paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text03:27
crystufersorry, easily excited.03:28
crystuferSo you don't know any solution for me, kkathman?03:29
kkathmancrystufer: not offhand no.03:29
crystuferKnow a route I could go to find it?03:30
ismailanyway thanks for help03:30
ismaili have to go03:30
kkathmancrystufer: it sounds as if maybe your printer isnt being recognized, driverwise03:31
crystuferI'd say that the problem might have something to do with the cupsd, but I don't know how to fix such a thing. Is there a way to re-install cups as though it were a fresh install?03:31
kkathmancrystufer: what kind of printer is it?03:32
crystuferHP Deskjet 842 C. I'm using the foomatic hpjis driver, whatever that is. It is definitely supported, and it used to work fine.03:33
kkathmancrystufer:  thats what I have actually03:33
kkathmancrystufer: see if this helps:  http://www.linuxprinting.org/cups-doc.html03:33
crystuferWow.03:33
crystuferYou have the same printer?03:33
kkathmanyep03:33
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crystuferWhat are the odds?03:34
mazemake: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.03:34
crystufer(rhetorical)03:34
mazei have kernel headers installed03:34
kkathmanexcept mine is on a windows machine on my network and I use cups to printer to it03:34
mazebut keep getting that03:34
kkathmanmaze: are you getting any other errors??  Like directory errors...not being able to access for instance?03:36
mazeno03:37
mazemake -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build SUBDIRS=/home/mase/spca5xx-20060101 CC=cc modules03:37
mazemake: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.03:37
mazemake: *** [default]  Error 203:37
kkathmanmaze: have you downloaded and upgraded to the new kernel?03:38
mazeyes03:38
kkathmandid you do a dist-upgrade?03:38
mazeyes03:38
kkathmancan you verify that this directory does not exist?03:38
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mazeit doesnt03:40
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kkathmani'd say that your -10 install failed then03:41
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mazeuh no03:42
kkathmanmaze: can you please type uname -a and check your kernel version03:42
mazei had the same error on the old kernel03:42
mazeLinux logic 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Thu Dec 22 11:37:10 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux03:42
kkathmanahhhh 68603:42
kkathmanoops03:43
maze?03:43
kkathmanah never mind sorry03:43
kkathmanmaze are you trying to do an install of a WPA ?03:44
mazewhats an WPA03:44
mazeits a webcam driver03:44
kkathmanie a wireless03:44
kkathmanI see only one reference to that error in Google and it had to do with a wireless with WPA03:44
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kkathmanmaze: on my system, all the kernel modules, etc are in that directory03:46
mazeshrug03:46
kkathmanso there's something definitely very wrong03:46
crystuferHey, what's the command for looking at all my devices?03:46
snaggleHey! I have a problem, i just installed Kubuntu to my Fujitsu/Siemens D Amilo 8830 laptop. But i cant get my laptop screen to work, i have to use an external screen. Anyone know what the problem is. I am new to linux03:47
mazelsusb?03:47
karlwrklspci too03:47
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crystufersnaggle, I'd say that your problem is similar to the one I had with this computer.03:50
crystuferI couldn't get my monitor to show more than 800x60003:51
snagglewell i dont get anything on my screen when i boot up. So i have to use my Samsung tft-screen. Do you know how i can get my laptop screen to work?03:52
crystuferhttp://wiki.kubuntu.org/FixVideoResolutionHowto?highlight=%28resolution%2903:52
crystuferThis help me out. You will need to gather all the information about your laptops display setup first though.03:53
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kkathmancrystufer: did that link I sent you on cups help at all?03:54
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crystuferNot really.03:55
crystuferBut I'm not done looking through it.03:56
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thegladiatorwhats the best image viewing program for kde ?04:20
thegladiatorkwickshow ?04:20
thegladiatorplease name it so that I can install04:20
thegladiatori installed kubuntu-dekstop04:20
thegladiatoron ubuntu04:20
thegladiatorsomeone please ?04:21
kkathmanthegladiator: I think there are several already in your graphics menu under k-menu04:21
apokryphosthegladiator: it depends on what you want04:21
thegladiatorthere are but I didnt like gwenview04:21
apokryphosdigiKam and gwenview are both very good04:21
thegladiatoris it ?04:21
apokryphosyes04:21
kkathmanthegladiator: just try them and see which one you like04:21
kkathmanif you dont, uninstall them04:22
thegladiatorits taking more than a split second to load the image of 1600 size04:22
thegladiatorits the normal speed ?04:22
apokryphosthegladiator: on digikam?04:22
apokryphosI've noticed that it's incredibly quick04:22
thegladiatordigiKam ?04:22
thegladiatori will try that04:22
apokryphoswith my graphics card I can't click over fast enough before it regenerates the images :P04:22
thegladiatorheh e04:23
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apokryphosit has a lot of other really nice/handy things too04:23
icedoes anyone have vmware installed ?04:23
sps_branyone using us_intl keyboard layout and kde 3.5?04:23
icehaving problems with it04:24
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dec0dinghello, I am coordinator of a Lug in my town and we are supporting Kubuntu as primary OS that we advice the members of using...we should add logo of Kubuntu on our website, what do u recommend to put?04:25
dec0dingwhich logo I mean04:25
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apokryphosdec0ding: there's the svg source on the Kubuntu wiki entry04:25
apokryphos(of the Kubuntu logo, that is)04:25
dec0dingah04:25
apokryphosdec0ding: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu04:26
dec0dingthanks04:26
dec0dingwe are neighbours u know, I suppose04:26
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apokryphosactually, it was moved to here: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuArtwork04:26
apokryphosdec0ding: we are? :)04:26
dec0dingyour name tells you are from Greece?04:26
dec0dingI am from your north neighbouring country ;)04:27
Blippexorg goes nuts and starts using 20%+ (from 2-3) anytime i start a gnome-app (or xmms) (using kde3.5 from kubuntu packages), is this a fluke or something known?04:27
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apokryphosdec0ding: Greek, but living in England =)04:28
Blippethree gnome-apps quickly makes xorg use more than 60%04:28
dec0dingapokryphos: ahh Yas ou04:28
Jrwahi there from spain04:28
Blippe(of cpu)04:28
JrwaI've just upgraded to dapper, and I've got a problem with locales. Is that because of the unestable or can it be fixed right now?04:28
apokryphosdec0ding: Yia :). Bulgaria?04:28
dec0dingapokryphos: Macedonia04:29
apokryphosJrwa: unstable04:29
apokryphosah, ok; cool :)04:29
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dec0dingahh it is cool :))04:29
apokryphosdec0ding: good to hear that you decided to u se Kubuntu :)04:29
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dec0dinghehe04:29
dec0dingwell we like KDE and Kubuntu is the best KDE Desktop OS we have tested here04:29
Jrwaapokryphos, any hint on when is it being fixed? I just can't type accents on KDE apps04:29
apokryphosJrwa: not really; dapper is unstable and broken; really not recommended that you use it, and certainly not so early in the running.04:30
Jrwaok, just wanted to know that. thanks ^^04:30
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thegladiatoram I connected ?04:34
apokryphosno04:34
thegladiator:(04:34
thegladiatorgoogle is not loading04:35
[1] darkmatterhi, can a complete linux newbie ask for help here? :D04:36
nalioth[1] darkmatter: no you cannot.04:37
[1] darkmatterargh :(04:37
apokryphos[1] darkmatter: unfortunately not.04:37
apokryphos[1] darkmatter: we're kidding :)04:37
apokryphoswe are here to help 8)04:37
[1] darkmatteryeah I know :D04:37
nalioth[1] darkmatter: unfortunately complete newbies can't find their way here, so you must not be one04:37
[1] darkmatterI said I was new to linux, not to the internet :p04:38
[1] darkmatteranyway...so I'm totally new, I installed a dual-boot winxp/kubuntu today...but I can't get any internet from kubuntu, I'm in xp right now04:38
[1] darkmatterduring the install, I just installed the same IP, gateway, name servers etc. as the tcp/ip settings in winXp04:39
apokryphoshow do you connect to the Internet?04:40
[1] darkmatterand when I try to fool around with the network settings thingy, I find that the settings for the ethernet card are disabled. the window says I should click "Administrator Mode", but I do so, and I input my password, but afterthat it's still disabled04:40
[1] darkmatterI have a DSL connection04:40
apokryphosrouter?04:40
[1] darkmatterthis machine connects directly to the modem thingy my DSL provider gave me04:40
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[1] darkmatterlol oh well, tnx anyway :D04:41
trappist[1] darkmatter: once you enter your password you should be able to configure your network device.  you're sure you entered the correct password?04:41
[1] darkmatteryeap, it's the same password as the login one right?04:42
trappistand using the same settings winxp uses should work04:42
trappistyes04:42
[1] darkmatterI'm sure it's correct...and I tried it several times04:42
trappistyou get your ip via dhcp, or it's static?04:42
[1] darkmatterstatic04:42
trappistwell you could do it manually04:42
[1] darkmatterI don't really know what DHCP is :p04:42
[1] darkmatterI should read up on this stuff04:43
trappistsudo ifconfig eth0 <ip>04:43
trappistsudo route add default gw <default gateway ip>04:43
trappistadd "nameserver <nameserver ip>" to /etc/resolv.conf04:43
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trappistand you should be up04:43
[1] darkmatterthanks, I'll try it later :D04:44
trappistlong-term of course we want the kde interface to work, but if you can get online in linux it'll be easier for us to help you from there04:44
[1] darkmatteralthough the settings should be already the same ones as xp...maybe I missed a digit or something04:44
trappistto check, run ifconfig to see your ip, route -n to see your default gateway, and cat /etc/resolv.conf to see your nameserver(s)04:45
[1] darkmatterthanks...I'll print this out for later...can't reboot to kubuntu for a while as I'm waiting on some downloads :D04:45
[1] darkmatterthanks a lot :D04:45
trappistnp04:45
Blippewhat is cat short for?04:46
trappistconcatenate04:46
BlippeI think i need a lexicon...04:46
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jorikor append04:47
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trappistcat isn't short for append :)04:48
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trappistconcatenate is probably in the top 10 best words ever04:48
Blippeso about my xorg problem, is it just my setup, or have others reported it?04:52
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trappistBlippe: well I get the same behavior running dual-head with two instances of kde - you're running two heavy, arguably bloated desktops when you run a gnome app in kde04:53
Blippei see...04:54
naliothubotu: tell Blippe about cli04:55
Blippelovely advace!04:55
Blippeadvice04:55
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diceshello everyone, anyone knows how to install kiosktool in kubuntu ?05:06
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Elsan_How does OSS-ALSA emulation work? Can I hear multiple sounds including from an OSS app?05:07
Riddelldices: sudo apt-get install kiosktool05:07
Riddelldices: it also needs a root password set05:08
RiddellElsan_: alsa drivers have an OSS compatibility layer05:08
RiddellElsan_: it depends on the driver if it can accept multiple inputs05:09
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Elsan_Riddell: I configured my computer ot hear multiple sounds, I can watch a movie with Kaffeine and listen to music with AmaroK...05:09
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dicesRiddell: does that work if i am installing kubuntu from ubuntu ?05:10
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Elsan_Skype, Flashplayer and my NES/SNES emulators use OSS so I can't listen to music at the same time05:10
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Riddelldices: yes, but you need to enable universe05:10
ninnghizidhaHow can i get Flash working in Konqueror 3.5?05:10
ninnghizidhait works in firefox, but not in konqueor...05:13
Elsan_ninnghizidha: Do you have firefox installed? If so you can install flashplayer-mozilla05:13
Elsan_Go in Konqueror's configuration menu... (I don't what it is in English)05:13
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Elsan_Go to External Modules(dunno what it is in english)05:14
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Elsan_Do you use Firefox1.0 or your own 1.5?05:14
ninnghizidhafirefox 1.0x05:15
ninnghizidhathe one that came with ubuntu05:15
Elsan_Ok05:15
Elsan_you should see a small list at the bottom05:15
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Elsan_I move /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins at the top05:16
Elsan_Then click the "Search for plugins" button05:16
dicesRiddell: universe enabled and it cant find kiosktool, maybe is in backports ? where i can find backports url05:16
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Riddelldices: it's definatly in universe, do an apt-get update05:17
=== ninnghizidha finds the shockwave-flash-plugin at the other tab.
Elsan_Ok. Good. :)05:17
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ninnghizidhathanks a lot, fellow :-D05:18
Elsan_I can see my Kaffeine, Adobe Acrobat, Flash and Open Office plugins05:18
Elsan_No prob05:18
Elsan_It should work without rebooting05:18
Elsan_Unlike another OS...05:18
ninnghizidha... thats true ... but whats about sound? does it have the same troubles as the firefox-plugin? O_o05:19
Elsan_Yes, it uses OSS05:19
Elsan_Flash is outdated05:19
Elsan_:(05:19
ninnghizidhaah .. sounds .. thats an endless theme in linux ... :-(05:19
Elsan_Like Skype is05:19
Elsan_They made Linux versions so people would shut up but they didn't update it05:19
ninnghizidhai know .. i know ...05:20
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nlindbladhello05:20
Elsan_Hi05:20
nlindbladis Kubuntu a totally different flavour or is it simply Ubuntu with KDE?05:21
ninnghizidha... but i got two soundcards .. would be nice to tell linux "hey! Ubuntu-Buddy! use the build-in-soundcards for Skype ... you can even use OSS on this device if you cant resist!"05:21
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jpatricknlindblad: Just Ubuntu-base + KDE05:21
ninnghizidhaists a vanilla-flavoured Ubuntu05:21
nlindbladjpatrick: how's the language support in KDE these days?05:21
jpatricknlindblad: excellent05:22
nlindbladjpatrick: even for Swedish?05:22
jpatrickYes05:22
jpatrickthat's the point of KDE-i18n05:22
nlindbladmore than excellent then05:22
Elsan_ninnghizidha: Write it yourself ;) I think you can change the device on Skype. I'd add another sound card but I got a laptop and my parent's desktop is running the other OS.05:22
nlindbladI know, but it lacks in some areas even with KDE-i18n05:22
ninnghizidhaah .. skype is far to propitary to use ....05:23
Elsan_nlindblad: Everything works perfectly in French, all apps I download are automatically in french05:23
nlindbladElsan_: okey05:23
ninnghizidhathats really nice in linux, the internationalism ...05:23
nlindbladbut French is a way bigger language than Swedish05:23
Elsan_ninnghizidha: Yeah, but like MSN(or soon Windows Live Messenger), everyone uses it and most people just know how to do a few things and they wouldn't like to relearn.05:24
Elsan_I don't have to buy another version to change my language :)05:24
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ninnghizidhathats true too :-D05:24
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Elsan_Phew. I was scared I got the dreaded KDE freeze for a second...05:26
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nlindbladso there's no difference at all in downloading the Kubuntu CD for instalation and performing a Ubuntu server-installation and typing apt-get install kde afterwards?05:28
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jpatricktyping: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:28
nlindbladright05:28
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nlindbladno need to download and burn a CD then05:28
Elsan_Yep!05:29
Elsan_That's how you can also install Xubuntu05:29
nlindbladXFCE4 is not for me05:29
nlindbladjust can't explain it, don't like it05:29
Elsan_I prefer KDE and GNOME but if I ever program an app for Linux, I'll test it with a XFCE virtual machine because it's lighter05:30
nlindbladbut Kubuntu _is_ Ubuntu?05:31
nlindbladthey share the same base05:31
Elsan_They share the base05:32
Elsan_Which is a very good base05:32
nlindbladindeed05:32
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nlindbladbut I like the "just works" approach Ubuntu gives me from the core and up05:32
Elsan_I'd just have to see if the new packaging system "conary" is better05:33
nlindbladonly thing I would want to change was KDE instead of GNOME05:33
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slow-motionhallo05:33
nlindbladhi slow-motion05:33
ninnghizidhagr dich.05:33
dicesRiddell: thx it was messed up file05:33
slow-motionhi nlindblad05:33
Elsan_ninnghizidha: You can stop all apps that play sound and maybe restart the sound server then restart flashplayer. It's as fun as that :)05:34
ejofee_in kde / kcontrol / appearance and themes / [desktop's]  background: when i press the "get new wallpapers" [from the internet] , a window *immediately* pops up on which is written "empty page" (so it won't download any wallpaper). can anybody please help me?05:34
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ninnghizidhahow to restart the soundserver?05:34
Elsan_No idea but I doubt you will need to do it05:35
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Elsan_Maybe "killall alsa; alsa" or something similar but I DO NOT GUARANTEE IT!!05:35
ninnghizidhai got it working at my girlfriend today ... without restarting (like on the other OS)05:35
ninnghizidha... but it seems, that Kubuntu doesnt use ESD ... am i right? it uses alsa ...05:36
Elsan_ejofee: I get the same thing then it downloads in a Konqueror-style download window the pages05:36
Elsan_It uses arts05:36
Elsan_I use alsa05:36
Elsan_(I just read up on it for OSS :))05:36
ninnghizidhaarts sounds really bad ...05:37
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ninnghizidhai hope i dont use arts .. that would explain the low latency of my sound05:37
ninnghizidha(i guess)05:37
Elsan_I don't know, It works and I'm all happy, I use alsa with multiple sound outputs05:38
Elsan_And I can test my sound in a 2 clicks, much better than gnome05:40
crystuferHey all.05:40
ninnghizidhamay i ask what the content of your /etc/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefoxrc is?05:40
Elsan_# which /dev/dsp wrapper to use05:41
Elsan_FIREFOX_DSP="auto"05:41
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crystufer# which /dev/dsp wrapper to use05:41
crystuferFIREFOX_DSP="auto"05:41
ninnghizidhathanks for looking :-)05:41
crystufernp05:41
Elsan_you can install the package alsa-oss and start with "aoss *app*"05:42
Elsan_np I just copied the address in Konqueror, works so well :)05:42
ninnghizidhana .. thats gimped ...05:42
ninnghizidhai willg et it working ... one day :-D05:42
crystuferSo can anyone help me set up this stupid printer?05:42
crystuferIt used to work, but now it won't.05:42
ninnghizidhalike mine ...05:43
ninnghizidhasound finally ... ^^05:43
ninnghizidha:-D05:43
Elsan_Good :D05:43
Elsan_crystufer: It's directly on the compuer or in a network?05:43
ninnghizidha... now i can hate AND use flash at the same time!05:44
crystuferDirectly on the computer, but I'm using cupsd anyways.05:44
crystuferyay ninnghizidha!05:44
Elsan_crystufer: Can't hel you much with this, I couldn't do more than check the options...05:45
crystuferElsan_: That's something. I think I've done it though. It just seems like there should be something I'm doing that I'm not.05:46
Elsan_Ok05:46
crystuferCould I use a different daemon to handle it?05:46
crystuferSee if it's a cups thing?05:47
Elsan_Maybe, my printer is on a Win comp on the network so I got no problem05:48
crystuferActually, I just got an error message saying connection refused.05:48
crystuferMaybe I screwed up the permissions?05:48
Elsan_you should be in superuser mode05:48
Elsan_there's a mall  button at the bottom05:49
crystuferYeah, I'm in administrator mode.05:49
Elsan_or you can use "sudo kcontrol"05:49
Elsan_But it may do some errors(did one on my splash screen)05:49
crystuferError: connection refused05:53
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crystuferHow do I make something world readable?05:57
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tech9ineraye me new mates.. ;]  moin 2 all..05:58
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tech9inerjust loaded up ubuntu 5.0.4 then upgraded via apt-get to kubuntu05:59
crystufernm05:59
crystuferMorning.05:59
tech9ineron old Pll 366 panasonic toughbook.. with integrated sound of course..05:59
tech9inerbut upon bootup/login im being told 'sound server informational message: error while initializing the sound driver: device: default cant be opened for playback (on such device) the sound server will continue suing the null output device..06:00
nlindbladtech9iner: a perfect chance for you to learn how to write module-based drivers for the Linux kernel06:00
tech9inerooops.. on/NO such device.. mea culpa ;] 06:01
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nlindblad:D06:02
tech9inerany clues wtf to start troubleshooting me new mates please.. thanks06:02
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nlindbladtech9iner: well, I'd check what it is for a card :D06:02
nlindbladlspci06:02
tech9inershrooms?.. there are mushrooms in here.. i like kubuntu already!! roflf06:02
tech9inerohyea.. been bout yr since lspci use.. thanks nlindblad ;] ] 06:03
crystufertech9iner: You still having that sound issue?06:03
crystufermake sure your user is part of the audio group06:03
tech9inerstill?.. lol.. this one since last evening.. aye crystufer lol06:03
crystuferKinda basic, but it fucked me up for a while.06:04
crystuferAlso, I had my sound card disabled in the bios.06:04
crystufer<- dense06:04
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tech9inerhmmm.. makes sense.. aside from the bit n da middle bout 'whose brite idea was it to NOT default user assign audio' ?.. lol06:05
crystuferMy idea. I never made a new user before.06:05
crystuferOh, not my default.06:05
tech9ineryamaha YMF-744B twould seem nlindblad06:06
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crystuferThat messed me up, too. My admin acount still had it.06:06
nlindbladtech9iner: any idea if it tries to use OSS or ALSA?06:06
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tech9ineradmin acct?.. on ubuntu 'no root' installs?.. hmmm..06:06
crystuferwhy not try both?06:06
crystuferadmin acct, because I only wanted my main user to have admin abilities.06:07
tech9ineri tried choosing alsa via control ctr nlindblad .. but no change.. where to confirm 4 you please chum?06:07
crystuferThe others were family users.06:07
nlindbladtech9iner: I have some bad news :(06:07
tech9ineryepperz.. bit o learning  curve here.. non root based os..06:07
crystuferNah, just sudo su and you're in business.06:08
tech9inerpretty used to 'su -' admin calls here.. but my main os on this pc is still fc4/suse10.. kubuntu is for ebay lappys06:08
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crystuferbesides, if you wanna, you can enable root login through the graphical logggy inny thingy.06:08
tech9inerbad news nlindblad ?.. g r e a t .. hehe06:09
nlindbladtech9iner: "1.10 What cards will NOT be supported by ALSA? Why not?"06:09
nlindblad"Yamaha YMF744B"06:09
nlindbladamong them06:09
crystuferouch.06:09
crystuferLooks like oss for you or esd.06:10
nlindbladbut the _new_ black list doesn't mention them06:10
tech9inerhahaha.. spoken like a true n faithful 'anti-geek' lol.. '''you can enable root login through the graphical logggy inny thingy.'''  jolly good laff guv06:10
nlindbladand that info is from 199906:10
nlindbladso I wouldn't give up06:10
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nlindbladALSA had loads of problems with different vendors back then06:11
tech9inerso just bit o encouragement thrown n 4 good measure eh nlindblad heh06:11
crystufertech9iner: I'm tired. Gimme a break. Through the graphical login manager I guess you would call it.06:11
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nlindbladtech9iner: it's supported06:12
nlindbladtech9iner: lsmod06:12
crystuferAnyways, there is a bit in kcontrol for "convenience" or some garbage like that to enable root login at the prompt.06:12
nlindbladtech9iner: look for a module named snd-ymfpci06:12
nlindbladif you don't have it you'll need to build it06:13
nlindbladpiece of cake06:13
crystuferI kinda want a text mode login. Gives newbs a sense of despair. The comes the kde and the wave of relief.06:13
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tech9inerhmm.. head scratchn bit noted here via your lspci call nlindblad .. noticing highly similar '0000:00:0a.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c478 (rev 03).. AND??.. 0000:00:0a.1 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c478 (rev 03)' ??06:13
nlindbladcrystufer: switch runlevel06:13
gangan963gg@linux:~$ sudo qtparted06:14
gangan963Error: Filesystem was not cleanly unmounted!  You should e2fsck.  Modifying an unclean filesystem could cause severe corruption.06:14
gangan963Could somebody hle me... what does this mean I try to mound a second HDD:06:14
nlindbladtech9iner: but you said Yamaha YMF744B?06:14
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tech9inermy my.. such warm an soft hands ye have whilst changing me overfull noob diapers nlindblad ;] ] 06:14
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slow-motionbbl06:14
tech9ineryamaha YMF-744B06:14
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nlindbladgangan963: just do a fsck on it06:14
gangan963what means on it?06:15
nlindbladit checks the filesystem for errors06:15
nlindbladbad blocks, etc.06:15
gangan963it is a /dev/hdc1 ...thats what I could tell you...06:15
crystufersudo fsck /dev/hdc106:15
gangan963thanx06:15
crystuferI think.06:15
melonipoikahi guys, i am facing a really strange problem with my wireless, and now i'm totally lost. I hope you can help me. I cannot make my ad-hoc connection work anymore, it is working for few minutes, nad then disconnecting06:15
crystuferIs that right?06:15
nlindbladcrystufer: fsck is a general controller to activate the right fsck for the filesystem given06:16
nlindbladfsck should call for e2fsck06:16
tech9inersnd_ymfpci             56768  006:16
tech9inernlindblad: aye.. its there..06:16
nlindbladtech9iner: then it's loaded06:16
nlindbladshould work06:16
melonipoikabefore it was working pretty well, i had configured it using dhcp, and everything was fine06:16
tech9inerhmmm...06:16
nlindbladmight just be your sound daemon being a bloody cunt then06:16
tech9inermaybe configs somewhere?06:16
nlindbladyeah06:16
crystuferso then i did or did not get that command right06:16
crystufer?06:16
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nlindbladcrystufer: you got it right06:17
crystuferK.06:17
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nlindbladmelonipoika: what distance to the AP?06:17
tech9inerbest config tool to start with perhaps nlindblad please?06:17
crystufere2fsck would be the specific command that fsck will just assume since it's ext2 right?06:17
tech9inerfor sound that be06:17
melonipoikafew meters, no more than 3, it is another laptop, i'm not using AP06:17
nlindbladmelonipoika: signal peaks and connection losses is common if you have a WLAN06:17
melonipoikaat the moment i'm using the same computer and everything, but runnig fedora06:18
nlindbladmelonipoika: what cards?06:18
nlindbladvendors/models?06:18
melonipoikad-link and nokia06:18
nlindbladtech9iner: alsamixer06:18
nlindbladtech9iner: and see what if detects06:18
tech9inerahh.. tanx chap..06:18
nlindblad*it06:18
nlindbladmelonipoika: are you attempting to use WPA/WEP?06:18
melonipoikanlindblad, i don't think this is the problem, it has been working pretty well before, and also in fedora and winxp...06:19
nlindblador just plain unencrypted signals06:19
melonipoikano, it is open06:19
nlindbladmelonipoika: weird then06:19
crystuferHow do I check out what is at the end of /dev/lp?06:19
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melonipoikai would like, but it is not possible, i'm using the second pc as internet gateway06:19
tech9ineralsamixer   alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device nlindblad ?.. still scratchn me bloody 4head here ;] 06:19
melonipoikait is connected to the modem06:19
nlindbladcrystufer: how do you mean?06:20
melonipoikaso no another way than rireless (no more net cards or router)06:20
melonipoikais there any good tool to configure the network?06:20
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nlindbladdon't know for KDE06:20
melonipoikai have used the one in ubuntu, but it is not too completed06:20
crystuferIs there a way to check if anything is connected to /dev/lp? that is my printer port, right?06:20
nlindbladbut I'm sure there is06:20
nlindbladmelonipoika: kde-apps.org06:21
melonipoikaand for gnome? i have both deskstops06:21
melonipoikaok, thanks06:21
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nlindbladmelonipoika: the default manager there is pretty simple but does the job06:21
melonipoikait doesn't let me choose the wireless mode (Ad-hoc, managed, etc)06:22
melonipoikaneither the channel, bitrate...06:22
nlindbladmelonipoika: hmm06:22
nlindbladmelonipoika: I'd try airsnort to see if it detects the other computer06:23
melonipoikai had used kwifimanager for that, but for some reason, i had to do it averytime i started the computer06:23
melonipoikaah, god06:23
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melonipoikagood06:23
melonipoikai will try06:23
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gangan963hellou, I have a HDD which I want make activ / mount ... the status is HIDDEN, so I cant do  "sudo mount ....."  can sombedoy help me?  ...sorry..linux-beginner :(06:24
melonipoikanlindblad, thanks for your help06:24
tech9inerany dire warnings bout taking my kubuntu integrated sound failure issues over to #ubuntu mates ?06:24
gangan963i format the HDD with qtparted to fat3206:24
nlindbladgangan963: HIDDEN?06:25
crystuferNah.06:25
crystuferYou still have gnome, right?06:25
tech9inerme crystufer ?06:25
crystuferYeah.06:25
gangan963qtparted says Status: hidden06:25
gangan963nlindblad: qtparted says Status: hidden06:25
tech9inerspose i do.. yes.. just added kde.. and logged into kde environs.. but still gnome onboard too06:26
crystufermake sure your gnome bits are updated so that if they make reference to a menu in gnome you have it. Other than that, should be fine.06:26
nlindbladgangan963: weird06:26
tech9ineras in getting support in #ubuntu crystufer ?06:26
tech9inerarg mea culpa crystufer06:26
tech9inerdidnt read ur last rite thanks chum06:27
tech9iner;] 06:27
crystuferarg mea culpa? Isn't that italian?06:27
crystuferLike for eat my ass?06:27
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tech9inerrofl.. no crystufer .. mea culpa is my fault is all mate06:27
gangan963nlindblad: sorry?weird?06:28
tech9inersnobby way of saying my bad crystufer lol06:28
crystuferKay.06:28
tech9ineran stop calling me Kay ;] ] 06:28
crystuferOkay.06:28
nlindbladgangan963: never heard of a hidden status for partitions06:28
crystufer:p06:28
tech9iner;D06:28
crystufer /dev/.hda506:28
crystuferhehe.06:28
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nlindbladwell06:33
nlindbladI'm gonna install Ubuntu now06:33
nlindbladsee you guys in ~ 15 mintues06:33
nlindblad*minutes06:33
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crystuferOh, shite.06:34
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crystuferI can't get this working.06:34
crystuferIt worked when I started.06:34
crystuferI think I need to just re-install the system.06:34
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Cry_Mac_Ubuntu!java-debs07:01
ubotuCry_Mac_Ubuntu: What?07:01
Cry_Mac_Ubuntu!java07:01
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs07:01
Cry_Mac_Ubuntu!javadebs07:01
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy07:01
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Cry_Mac_Ubuntu!seveas07:02
ubotuSeveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages07:02
Flixor-hi everybody, i was wondering if its possible to limit bandwitch usesages for some users on my computer07:03
Flixor-like know two people are working on my computer one behind and me from another pc through nxclient07:03
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grafterr... has anyone ever gotten translucency working with an ATI Radeon card?07:05
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mase!firefox07:06
mase!firefox1.507:07
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion07:07
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nlindbladback07:20
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gangan963need Help... my second HDD will not mnt. can somenone help me?07:23
gangan963I am new with linux... WIKI and www didn't help07:24
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ProtectYaNeckwhere in Kubuntu can I format a drive to FAT32?07:24
gangan963this I can answer you!  install the app qtparted ....its like Partiotionmagic in Windows07:25
nlindbladgangan963: what does it say when you run the mount command?07:26
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gangan963nlindblad:  dev/hdc1 didn't exist07:27
nlindbladgangan963: reboot, the kernel don't read the new partition table otherwise07:29
nlindblad*doesn't07:29
gangan963just reboot the system?07:29
nlindbladgangan963: partitioning during run is not recommended and it won't find it most times07:29
nlindbladyeah07:29
nlindbladthen you'll have /dev/hdc107:29
gangan963ok.. thanx07:29
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mase!tcl07:33
ubotuI don't know, mase07:33
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masewhats the tcl package name for apt-get ?07:33
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nalioth!info tcl07:34
nlindbladapt-cache search07:34
nlindbladis also good07:34
naliothso it is07:34
nalioththe bot needs work07:34
masejust did that :p07:34
maseapparently i have tcl8.407:34
masebut the eggdrop doesnt compile07:35
masesays i dont have tcl installed07:35
JohnFluxcan i install i386 packages on my amd64 system?07:37
nlindbladyes07:37
naliothmase: you need tcl*-dev07:37
nlindblad32-bit compability07:37
nlindbladJohnFlux: or it really depends07:37
maseok thanks nalioth07:37
nlindbladJohnFlux: if it's native 64-bit (which I doubt) you can't07:37
naliothmase: anytime you compile, and it says "you need x ver 1" you need 'x ver 1 -dev"07:37
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masek thx07:38
maseyoure right..07:38
masethat was it07:38
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gangan963nblindblad: rebooted... but  still a problem with my HDD07:43
poningruJohnFlux: what kind of kubuntu did you install? 32bit? or 64bit?07:43
JohnFluxponingru: 6407:44
poningruoh then no07:45
JohnFluxi can't install a i386 package?07:45
gangan963nlindblad: rebooted... but  still a problem with my HDD07:45
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nlindbladgangan963: still?07:47
nlindbladgangan963: what does fdisk -l /dev/hdc tell you?07:47
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nlindbladJohnFlux: you apperantly did a "native" 64-bit installation, that breaks all compability with 32-bit applications07:48
JohnFluxnlindblad: blah07:48
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gangan963nlindblad:  could not open07:49
nlindbladJohnFlux: although, there is a way07:49
gangan963nlindblad:  could not open /dev/hdc07:50
nlindbladgangan963: dmesg|grep '/dev/hdc'07:50
gangan963nlindblad:  sorry?  what does this mean?07:51
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nlindbladgangan963: dmesg is the output your kernel makes07:54
nlindbladgangan963: grep 'something' is used to find 'something' in the text07:54
nlindblad| means that the commands are piping each other07:54
nlindbladthat means they run at the same time in pipes and effect each others results07:54
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nlindbladso dmesg|grep '/dev/hdc' will return all text the kernel mentioned that contains /dev/hdc07:55
Tm_Tubotu: how are you?07:55
ubotujust great, Tm_T07:55
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gangan963nlindblad:  ok.. I did it... and now?07:55
gangan963nlindblad:  what do you say if I format this HDD with Knoppix-live-cd ...could it be a solution???07:57
nlindbladgangan963: didn't it output anything at all?07:58
gangan963nothing!07:58
nlindbladnot good07:59
gangan963gg@linux:~$ dmesg|grep '/dev/hdc'07:59
gangan963gg@linux:~$ dmesg|grep /dev/hdc07:59
gangan963gg@linux:~$07:59
gangan963nlindblad: was this the right command? ..or should I do it with sudo???08:00
nlindbladunless you have a very security enchanced machine dmesg works for all users08:01
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gangan963nlindblad: just installed normal kubuntu ...beginner, so no security08:01
nlindbladbut of course, if it doesn't mention it might just mean it didn't bother doing anything with it08:01
nlindbladbut still weird fdisk can't open it08:02
gangan963weird?08:02
nlindbladyeah08:02
nlindbladlong time since I use Ubuntu though08:02
gangan963is "weird fdisk" a command?08:02
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jordi_hello, during kubuntu install on an amd64 i got the errormsg "the ext2 filesystem has a rather strange layout", i searched the forum but really found nothing to solve this problem08:02
nlindbladmight be a normal case that it doesn't08:02
nlindbladgangan963: I'd go for the "format with Knoppix" solution08:03
gangan963would it hel to format the disk with a live-cd???08:03
gangan963ok...08:03
gangan963thanx for help08:03
nlindbladdidn't help you :D08:03
nlindbladjust tried08:03
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globehow do I set the active (boot) partition on my hd manually (from fdisk?)?08:21
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nxv_hi, how do i have to reinstall locales?08:26
nlindbladglobe: cfdisk is more user-friendly08:27
globenlindblad: okay...  is that term based or X?08:28
nlindbladterm08:28
globeI get the same error as with fdisk: cannot open disk drive.  Do I have to have the HD mounted before I can do stuff like that?08:29
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nlindbladglobe: well, it shouldn't have to be mounted08:31
nlindbladbut my guess is that Ubuntu doesn't permit it when you're in a high runlevel (network/GUI)08:31
nlindbladto perform such tasks you should reboot into single-user mode08:32
globewell, the problem could also be that I am running a live CD.  I cant boot....a completly unconfigured grub is in the way08:32
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nlindbladglobe: the Ubuntu live-cd?08:33
globeyep08:33
nlindbladokey08:33
imy!skim08:33
ubotuimy: What?08:33
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JohnFlux!scim08:34
ubotuscim is, like, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Language input. http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/08:34
nlindbladdoes the boot-partition really have to be flagged bootable08:34
nlindbladI've forgotten that sometimes and it has worked08:34
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globenlindblad well, no.  but that only works if you have < 1 OS installed.  I used to have FC3 installed and I deleted the partition and reformatted for data.08:35
globesomehow grub remained, but lost all its config data and now it doesnt know where to look for an O/S08:35
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JohnFluxglobe: less than 1 OS?08:36
globelol.... > 1 OS08:36
globe:-)08:36
JohnFlux:)08:36
nlindblad:-)08:36
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globedoes there happen to be a way to tell grub where to look ?  I get a really LIMITED grub command line08:40
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dst20bonsoir a tous08:41
nlindbladyou could set it up from the comand line08:41
Zerlinnajpatrick: hey there.. thanx for adding my blog to your linklist :-)08:41
nlindbladglobe: root (hd0,0)08:41
dst20y a t il une personne ki parle fr08:42
nlindbladglobe: setup (hd0)08:42
jpatrickZerlinna: no problemo08:42
nlindbladglobe: quit08:42
Zerlinnajpatrick: and how's it going with your new blog?08:42
globeUm.... no offense but that all looks like gibberish to me.....08:42
KnowerrorsIs there a setting to make x.org remember monitor settings?  If I turn on my compute with the monitor off, then turn it on later, Im greeted by only one resolution and refresh rate08:42
jpatrickZerlinna: still looking for stuff to post08:42
dst20personne pale francais ici08:43
nlindbladglobe: it tells GRUB that it should install to MBR and the second command actually makes it install08:43
jpatrickZerlinna: although I think I've found something08:43
Zerlinnajpatrick: I'd like to help you but till March I'm very busy at uni...08:43
Zerlinnajpatrick: may I ask you what you've found? ;)08:43
jpatrickZerlinna: I know what mean08:43
globenlindblad, oic....so that needs to be done on command line.08:43
globeI mean grub cmd line08:44
Zerlinnajpatrick: I need the time maintain my own blog ;)08:44
nlindbladglobe: GRUB command line08:44
nlindbladglobe: yeah08:44
jpatrickZerlinna: I have a ton of school work08:44
nlindbladglobe: if it's the same command line you get when you type in 'grub' on a healthy system08:44
globenlindblad.  it appears to be...the same preamble anyways08:44
Zerlinnajpatrick: me too.. and I joined the marketingteam yesterday ;)08:45
nlindbladglobe: okey08:45
Zerlinnajpatrick: they have some interesting projects there.. maybe you should join in, too (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam)08:45
jpatrickZerlinna: I could of joined the Community Council if it hadn't been for school08:45
jpatricktoday08:46
Zerlinnajpatrick: wow :)08:46
Zerlinnajpatrick: I'm just an ordinary user :)08:46
jpatrickZerlinna: but since i had school I arrived too late08:46
Zerlinnajpatrick: do you meet on irc?08:47
jpatrickyep08:47
Zerlinnajpatrick: next time you'll make it, sure08:47
Zerlinnajpatrick: but sure there's somebody who'll send to the logfile08:47
dst20PEUX T ON M AIDER SVP08:48
jpatrickZerlinna: that's what someone said08:48
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jpatrickjust gotta wait two weeks08:49
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dst20Y A T IL UN SEVEUR EN FRANCAIS08:49
jpatrickraphink: poke08:50
Elsan_Canal #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr08:50
jpatrickraphink: someone desparate here08:50
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stimpy997Hi everybody!08:50
slow-motionre08:50
Elsan_dst20: C'est des canal, #kubuntu-fr est presque vide, t'es mieux avec #ubuntu-fr08:50
dst20MERCI ELSAN08:50
jpatrickok... caps...08:51
Elsan_dst20: Enlve les CAPS08:51
claudiuhello, i have a problem installing gstreamer - it is freezing08:51
dst20 dsl08:51
stimpy997On my thinkpad, acpi doesn't work as it should08:51
Elsan_He wanted a french server, I gave him the channels, he won't bother npw :p08:51
jpatrickI know :P08:51
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iantecany one here folding?08:55
JohnFlux!scim08:55
ubotuwell, scim is Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Language input. http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/08:55
JohnFluxiantec: folding?08:55
JohnFluxwhat's dapper?08:56
JohnFluxthe release after breezy?08:56
JohnFlux!dapper08:56
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.08:56
JohnFluxah08:56
iantecfolding at home....http://folding.stanford.edu/  .....because im a newbi at linux....and i tried ubuntu since i cant make suse work on my system.... im fresh from windows and i ahve been folding ever since...08:57
ianteci cant install it though because i have no idea how to install softwares on ubuntu aside from the ones you can get sfrom synaptic08:58
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JohnFluxiantec: go to the download page and get the console one and follow the instructions09:00
iantec....i tried....it wont work...the reason i switched form suse to ubuntu is i cant make folding at home working...as a service just like windows....i really want to migrate,....but folding for me is a must...09:01
claudiuwhat is the use of gstreamer on kubuntu ?09:01
jpatrickclaudiu: music?09:02
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robotgeekclaudiu: gstreamer is the backend, independant of kde/gnome etc09:02
claudiujpatrick: ok, can i use it for notifications ?09:03
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JohnFluxiantec: why doesn't it work09:03
iantecerror message shows up09:03
JohnFlux.......09:03
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akshayroot@aqua-h:/home/akshay# apt-get update09:04
akshay44% [Connecting to in.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)] 09:04
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akshaycan any one help me in this09:04
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akshay44% [Connecting to in.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)] 09:06
KnowerrorsI have a problem with my monitor, if its turned off while booting, then turned back on, the resolution and refresh rate are terrible and can't be changed, is there a way to fix this besides always having monitor on?09:06
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akshayi was doing #apt-get update but i get this message '44% [Connecting to in.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)] '09:06
akshayis ther anyone can help me in this please09:08
claudiujpatrick: can you help me with that ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/691309:08
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vega-how can i manage network profiles in kde?09:10
vega-the default one doesn't seem to be very intuitive...09:10
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vega-pointers to docs on this?09:10
nlindbladvega-: kde-apps.org09:10
nlindbladvega-: go look!09:10
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jpatrickclaudiu: err09:11
jpatrickwell did dpkg fail?09:12
nlindbladvega-: (I don't mean it in an angry way, just a tip)09:12
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claudiujpatrick: i tried to install all the gstreamer plugins with synaptic, but it failed when setting up09:12
jpatrickodd09:12
vega-nlindblad: mmkay, thanks :)09:13
claudiujpatrick: how can i get out of this  ? i cant use apt-get because of this09:13
iantechow do i start xchat automatically when i start up?09:14
jpatrickclaudiu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a09:17
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arrinmurriantec: open konqueror, go to ~/.kde/Autostart/ , open the right mouse button menu and take Create New -> Link to Application...09:23
nlindbladdamnit, girls are hard09:23
nlindbladwhy can't they be as easy as *NIX09:24
vega-actually this is my problem: http://www.kde-forum.org/post/55697/lastpost.html#post5569709:24
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kkathmanwell most girls are a bit nicer to snuggle up to than *nix09:24
vega-can't believe that there is no decent gui for managing network profiles in kde these days09:24
jpatrickkkathman: you're telling me...09:24
nlindbladkkathman: really?09:25
kkathmanohyeah!!09:25
sampankkathman  they're working on a "breast" patch for *nix that will remedy that problem.09:25
kkathmansampan: well try it out for me willya...I'll keep my all-natural interface : )09:25
sampanlol09:25
jpatrickkkathman: :'(09:25
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sampanheck, that's how i ended up here09:26
kkathmancheer up jpatrick  its not the end of the world...trust me...things get better in High School and MUCCCCCCH better in college09:26
sampan"what's this ubuntu cd do anyway?" *insert cd into drive*  "oooooooooooooooooh! nice!"09:26
kkathmanjust remember that these little HS romances arent squat :)09:26
jpatrick:P09:26
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sampanthey're important at the time -- you can learn alot about people and yourself from your hs romances09:27
kkathmansampan you already dont get out enough my man :)09:27
sampanlol kkathman i know :/  dratted research keeps me chained to my desk09:27
kkathmansampan: actually thats true to an extent09:27
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iantecarrinmurr....after that? im in the general tab09:27
sampanlol09:27
jpatrickkkathman: oKay09:28
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omri1hello09:28
stimpy997vega: take a look at netapplet or network manager09:28
kkathmanjust remember the computer is your friend....its logical...women are NOT09:28
nlindbladtrue indeed09:28
arrinmurriantec, well, insert "xchat" there, and also in applications tab in name and command fields09:29
jpatrickkkathman: yes,sir09:29
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kkathmananyone in or near St Louis ??09:30
arrinmurriantec: and remember to write it in lowercase in the command field. and then you're done. next time you log in, xchat will fire up09:30
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vega-stimpy997: network manager as in the package "network-manager" ?09:30
iantecwhat do i have to indicate in the workpath?09:31
arrinmurriantec: nothing09:31
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kkathmanvega whatcha tryin to do, exactly09:31
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iantecthanks i hope it work s...well im gonna try it now09:32
vega-kkathman: i want to be able to switch between different network profiles (home wireless/work lan/work wireless)09:33
stimpy997vega-: yes. it's still a work in progress though. does not work with all NICs yet.09:34
kkathmanahh... I'd steer you to the kde network settings but its got so many bugs that it breaks things rather than doing things right09:34
stimpy997netapplet is another possibility09:34
robotgeekvega-: try using network-manager09:34
vega-kkathman: tried that already09:35
vega-i'll try network-manager and netapplet next09:35
kkathmanvega - yah its pretty bad09:35
claudiukkathman: how can i solve this one ? apt-get says i must do dpkg --reconfigure -a, and dpkg just hangs on forever09:35
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claudiukkathman: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/691309:35
jpatrickclaudiu: it takes a while to unpack those packaegs09:35
kkathmanclaudiu:  Im not sure what you are trying to do09:35
omri1I've installed recently Kubuntu 5.10 and already love it very much! however I do have a small problem that I'm not sure how to address, I'm not even sure how to describe: in many windows where there are multiple lines some appear with dark background, that severly influences my ability to read them. It happens in Koepete, for example, KWrite, in the Disk&Filesystem dialog, and many other places. When I just installed Kubuntu it didn't happen, 09:35
kkathmanahh jpatrick can help you :)09:36
omri1I've played with many display settings without luck...09:36
claudiujpatrick: i think there is a problem some where09:36
jpatrickIt always took a while here09:36
kkathmanomri1: the only settings for that are in the Appearance area of systemsettings through the k-menu09:37
claudiujpatrick: are you talking about gstreamer-plugins ?09:37
jpatrickyeah09:37
omri1kkathman: I think I changed all of those settings without luck.. though I will try again of course..09:37
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claudiujpatrick: its 15 minutes now - this is a barton machine, i think there IS a problem09:38
jpatrickoK09:38
jpatrickthat is odd09:38
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claudiujpatrick: should i rm some stuf ? what exactly ?09:38
iantecwell how do i make the menus smaller in the k menu....when i point my mouse and the menus explode it covers my whole desktop...09:39
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claudiujpatrick: btw ctrl+c does not break dpkg --reconfigure -a09:39
jpatrick:/09:39
omri1do you have any idea where in the Appearance area?09:39
claudiujpatrick: i am forced to ctrl+z and killall09:40
claudiujpatrick: i think i should rm some stuf !!! but dont know what exactly ?09:40
jpatricksudo apt-get install -f ?09:40
nlindbladkkathman: I think I'm in love09:41
nlindbladbut I don't know for sure09:41
nlindbladand I don't have the guts to do anything09:41
claudiu$ sudo apt-get install -f09:41
claudiuE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.09:41
jpatricknlindblad: like me09:41
claudiujpatrick: nope! it sends me back to dpkg09:41
nlindbladjpatrick: do you also feel like you have no qualities whatsoever that would make the opposite sex even bother dealing with you?09:42
omri1ok - I found it, thanks09:42
iantecerrr....somehow i lost the icons near the clock how do i recover them.,...i cant see the icons of applications rtunnign at the background like kopete and gaim09:42
omri1goodbye09:43
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kkathmannlindblad: well, thats part of growing up..you need to develop confidence09:43
kkathmanthats all09:44
nlindbladkkathman: but I suck at everything09:44
nlindbladthat *matters*09:44
kkathmannlindblad: well you need to jettison THAT attitude fast :)09:44
kkathmaneveryone is good at something09:44
nlindbladkkathman: well, I'm a well experienced *NIX user09:44
nlindbladkkathman: and an excellent student09:45
nlindbladbut apart from that09:45
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kkathmannlindblad: there ya go09:45
iantechow do i restore to default my kde desktop?09:46
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claudiujpatrick: i will write it down , man !!! lol09:46
wiiiiiqhou hou09:46
claudiujpatrick: if someone else asks you about this kind of stuff, just teach him this> $ sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/updates/*09:47
claudiujpatrick: it worked beatifully09:47
jpatrickclaudiu: oKay, kool09:47
nlindbladkkathman: but unless she want's me to tweak her Gentoo installation I don't have that much to offer09:47
claudiujpatrick: ok, thanks a lot anyway09:48
kkathmannlindblad: well, I'll tell you what I told jpatrick..be kind, courteous and considerate to all girls and most of them will take notice, cuz everyone else is usually acting like a jerk09:48
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nlindbladkkathman: damnit, you're like the hundred to tell me this09:51
nlindbladkkathman: and that's just on Freenode09:51
jpatricknlindblad: he's godd09:51
jpatrickgood*09:51
kkathmannlindblad: must be something true in it then eh?09:52
claudiukkathman: why does installing gstreamer-vorbis take so long for me ?09:53
kkathmanclaudiu: I dunno09:54
nlindbladkkathman: probably09:54
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mazee!skype09:58
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/09:58
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claudiukkathman: ok thanks man. gtg now. bye all10:01
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nlindbladkkathman: she's three years older, doesn't take any classes I do and she lives in another town, also, I see her like an hour a week because she has very few lessons and I have tons of lessons10:06
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kkathmannlindblad: ya ever talk to her?10:07
nlindbladkkathman: she couldn't be much more unreachable10:07
jpatrickkkathman: she's three years older than him10:08
kkathmanoh nonsense10:08
kkathmanno harm in talking to her!10:08
kkathmanmy goodness10:08
jpatrickhaha10:08
kkathmanwhat lessons do you both take?10:08
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jpatrickkkathman: err, different classes10:09
nxv_hi, i have installed php4 apache and php postgres module but don't know how to aktivate it10:09
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jpatrickHobbsee!10:09
Hobbseehey jpatrick!10:09
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kkathmangee...arrange to talk to her sometime...pass where she does or something...geez a nice "hi...howzit goin...my names blahblah...nice weather..."  whatever :)10:09
nlindbladkkathman: I see her an hour a week and I have no natural way to make a move10:10
kkathmanya gotta break the idea that anyone is unreachable10:10
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nlindbladkkathman: I'd faint10:10
kkathmanso MAKE a natural way10:10
jpatrickHobbsee: care to join us at "Last" (haha)?: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers10:10
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kkathmanask Hobbsee she'll tell you about having confidence10:10
Hobbseekkathman: huh lol?10:11
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sampannlindblad  even an "unnatural" move is better than no move at all10:11
jpatrickkkathman: I've sorta talked to Hobbsee about it10:11
Hobbseehehe!  get a pony!10:11
sampanan unnatural move at least gives you a chance of success ... no move means no chance10:11
jpatricksampan: I f^&%#$ up (sorry guys) there10:12
sampanlol ;)10:12
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Hobbseejpatrick: maybe a little later, once i figure all that out - gotta find something to eat first10:17
jpatrickHobbsee: any later and I probably wouldn't be here to approve you10:18
Hobbseei'll be here tomorrow10:18
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jpatrickI can approve you any time10:18
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mianosre10:18
mianoshey there10:18
mianosi have a problem with flight dapper 2 kubuntu10:19
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mianosis there no hotplug?10:19
ninnghizidhado you know that dapper isnt even beta now?10:19
ninnghizidhaso ... bugs are normal.10:19
mianosthats no bug10:19
Hobbseei dont think there is hotplug, i think they took it out10:19
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mianoshm10:19
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mianoshow can i use my netgear wg511 - prism54-driver - wlan-card? i uses hotplug to upload the firmware10:20
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mianosbut it fails cause there is not hotplug on dapper 2, what could i do?10:20
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mianos?10:22
SeaWolf-so if i did the sudo apt-get kde-desktop on a ubuntu install, how do I get it to load KDE install of gnome on bootup?10:24
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sampanseawolf-  on the login screen there will be a "session" button, click it and choose "kde"10:26
SeaWolf-allright10:26
SeaWolf-let me try that10:26
SeaWolf-thanks10:26
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sampanoops, forgot to tell him it's kubuntu-desktop, not kde10:28
nlindbladnite10:31
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neoncodeIf I can choose when building a new computer between nVidia and ATi, witch should I choose to run games on with linux?10:33
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thegladiator: indicated the user is using konversation as opposed to , ?10:35
thegladiatorwhen someone use dierct chat i.e10:35
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thegladiator":" and "," could be used to identify that ?10:35
thegladiatorweird questioni know :)10:36
thegladiatorbut curiosity10:36
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ninnghizidhaDid there anyone tried the "radeon"-drivers before and can tell me about them?10:41
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Lord_Athuro cambio el color de fondo de bash pa los tty??11:02
Lord_Athurcomo cambio el color de fondo de bash pa los tty??11:02
Lord_Athurnothing11:02
Lord_Athur:P11:02
Lord_Athurwrong channel11:03
Lord_Athur:P11:03
Lord_Athurhow can i chenge the terminal color ?11:03
Lord_Athurfrom black to blue :P?11:05
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Hobbseekonsole, settings, schema11:06
Hobbseeor do you mean a virtual terminal?11:06
Lord_Athuryes11:07
Lord_AthurI've installed only the server11:07
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wimpiesHi all, need some help with getting rid of the suckit rootkit on 5.1011:07
Xemanth^rootkit?11:10
Xemanth^???????????11:10
wimpiesyes11:10
wimpieswhy ???11:10
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Xemanth^what rootkit do you mean =11:11
Xemanth^?11:11
wimpiesthe 'suckit' rootkit (according to chkrootkit)11:11
wimpiesAnd I have an 'sk' file in a hidden directory (currently I boot with a live CD)11:12
Xemanth^thought you meant da sony rootkit ;D11:12
wimpiesAny Idea except reinstall how I can get rid of it ?11:12
TjaFswhich adress should i add in sources.list to be able to get down mplayer and such ?11:13
SkrotTjaFs: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main11:15
Skrot:p11:15
hawkingtjafs : better try automatix11:17
bimberiwimpies: once you find a rootkit you should consider the box compromised - a reinstall is the only way to trust it again :(11:17
Skrothawking: Automatix?11:17
bimberiwimpies: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=181974 (post #3 in particular)11:18
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slow-motionbbl11:18
bimberiubotu tell TjaFs about mplayer11:18
wimpiesSince I have a 5.10, how did it get in the system ? Is there an vulnerability in 5.1 ?11:18
hawkingSkrot : Automatix-Kubuntu graphic installer for KDE... search in ubuntu forums there is a howto about it11:18
SkrotI see :)11:18
nxv_i cant get postgresql installed correctly. i can install it without errors but cant connect to it. nmap localhost doesn't show port 5432 psql should listen to11:19
nxv_running dapper11:19
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bimberiwimpies: very hard to say - installing programs or running scripts from non-trustworthy sources would be the main way11:23
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Skrothawking: Seems ubotu isn't very fond of it ;)11:23
hawkingSkrot : :)11:24
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Skrothawking: But isn't it okay to use nerim to get mplayer?11:24
hawkingSkrot : sure but automatix is just easier11:24
wimpiesso there are no known ubuntu exploits ?11:25
hawkingSkrot : worth a try11:25
SkrotHe's used to debian, so I'm sure that's not going to matter too much :)11:25
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bimberiwimpies: i'm not aware of any list.  Really it's the sum total of exploits for all ubuntu software packages11:29
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bimberioh well11:29
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trappisthow konqueror seems to be looking for a local file if I enter webdav://url or webdavs://url into the address bar.  how to make konqueror webdav-aware?11:44
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