| theCore | should we cover the basics of the filesystem, in the intro ? | 12:05 |
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| LaserJock | like what? | 12:09 |
| theCore | does doc.ubuntu is down ? | 12:16 |
| LaserJock | I believe it is | 12:16 |
| theCore | it look like the webmasters are doing some background changes ... (check the buttons on ubuntu.com, they're now smaller :/ ) | 12:18 |
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| mdke | jdub, any progress been made on start.ubuntu.com or the yelp customisations? | 08:48 |
| jsgotangco | yelp upstream changes? | 08:48 |
| mdke | no... | 08:48 |
| mdke | the plan is to do some ubuntu customisations of the yelp stylesheets | 08:49 |
| jsgotangco | won't it bork upstream docs? | 08:49 |
| mdke | bork? | 08:50 |
| mdke | they would have the customisations too | 08:50 |
| mdke | jdub? | 09:09 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, mdke you saw the plates shift in the gnome world today? | 09:17 |
| jsgotangco | yep | 09:17 |
| mdke | nope | 09:18 |
| Burgundavia | mdke, FC5 will include mono | 09:18 |
| Burgundavia | wonder what this means for beagle and 2.16 | 09:18 |
| mdke | is that a big deal? | 09:18 |
| Burgundavia | mdke, up until now they have refused to ship it | 09:18 |
| jsgotangco | http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/?p=159 | 09:19 |
| Burgundavia | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ForbiddenItems#head-3b240142fcfa3e417734f6f5338bf20c61ceec14 | 09:19 |
| mdke | i had gathered that from the first thing you said | 09:21 |
| mdke | is it a big deal? | 09:21 |
| Burgundavia | yes, a huge one | 09:21 |
| mdke | ah | 09:21 |
| jsgotangco | yes | 09:21 |
| Burgundavia | because without RH's support, nothing mono would have gone into GNOME proper | 09:21 |
| jsgotangco | the next rhel might include it then | 09:21 |
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| Burgundavia | hence creating a huge divide | 09:21 |
| jsgotangco | hehe more mono crack to come! | 09:22 |
| Burgundavia | I expect f-spot for 2.16 and maybe beagle | 09:22 |
| Burgundavia | then comes the showdown between rb and banshee | 09:23 |
| jsgotangco | id go for banshee | 09:23 |
| Burgundavia | it is crazy that there are two, with the same bloody UI | 09:24 |
| Burgundavia | whichever gets chosen basically kills the other | 09:24 |
| Burgundavia | anyway, I have to sleep | 09:25 |
| jsgotangco | night | 09:26 |
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| Madpilot | good morning | 02:46 |
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| theCore | LaserJock, hi | 08:11 |
| theCore | LaserJock, i don't think we need the ``Simple Packaging Walkthrough'' section | 08:12 |
| theCore | we should concentrate more on the ``Learn by doing'' part | 08:12 |
| LaserJock | theCore: you could be right, I just don't quite have a feeling for that yet | 08:14 |
| LaserJock | theCore: if in the end we need it then we can easily add it | 08:14 |
| mdke | bshumate, success? | 08:15 |
| theCore | so, do we remove the ``Simple Packaging Walkthrough'' chapter from the outline | 08:15 |
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| LaserJock | theCore: well, we can leave it there for now and just not do it ;-) | 08:17 |
| theCore | ok then , I will just comment it out | 08:17 |
| LaserJock | oh yeah, I didn't make it to the CC meeting this morning | 08:17 |
| mdke | LaserJock, no progress on commit access i suppose? | 08:18 |
| LaserJock | mdke: no, I would like to poke elmo a little but I know he is very busy and might bite back ;-) | 08:19 |
| LaserJock | mdke: so I have been biting my tongue | 08:19 |
| mdke | i'll poke | 08:28 |
| mdke | LaserJock, ^ | 08:28 |
| LaserJock | mdke: thanks, I just don't want to be a problem | 08:31 |
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| theCore | LaserJock, I made some changes to the outline, you may want to check it out | 08:46 |
| LaserJock | theCore: ok, will do | 08:48 |
| theCore | LaserJock, what is the difference between ``Packaging Scenarios'' and ``Building Scenarios'' ? | 09:01 |
| LaserJock | well packaging just has to do with making the source package | 09:02 |
| LaserJock | and building would be the various was to make the source package into binary packages | 09:02 |
| LaserJock | like pbuilder | 09:02 |
| theCore | okay | 09:03 |
| theCore | thanks | 09:03 |
| theCore | so, what do think of my changes ? | 09:27 |
| LaserJock | theCore: just a sec | 09:30 |
| LaserJock | theCore: not sure about the filesystem and apt overview. What did you have planned there? | 09:32 |
| theCore | so the reader can have a basic knowledge about those important things | 09:35 |
| theCore | when you make a package, it's important to know things like where the man page is stored, where the bin goes, etc ... | 09:36 |
| LaserJock | theCore: well, I would worry that it would create too much introductory material | 09:36 |
| LaserJock | theCore: maybe we could just reference something | 09:36 |
| theCore | yea, maybe | 09:36 |
| LaserJock | theCore: but you are right in that people will need to know where to but docs etc. | 09:40 |
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| theCore | LaserJock, a quick intro about the -dev packages would be nice too | 09:45 |
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| Kyral | yo | 09:48 |
| Kyral | sorry I dropped off the face of the Net, my router decided to hate me | 09:49 |
| mdke | Kyral, we forgive you | 09:49 |
| theCore | Kyral, put linux on it | 09:49 |
| Kyral | lol | 09:49 |
| Kyral | I should actuallu | 09:49 |
| Kyral | Summer project, build my own router | 09:49 |
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| theCore | LaserJock, I finished a really rough draft of the debhelper section in xml | 09:59 |
| LaserJock | theCore: ok, email me what you've got | 09:59 |
| theCore | LaserJock, is it okay if I send you my whole dir ? | 10:01 |
| theCore | ls | 10:01 |
| theCore | oups | 10:01 |
| theCore | it's 290K big | 10:02 |
| LaserJock | fine | 10:02 |
| theCore | just a sec, so i can rip off the .svn dir | 10:03 |
| mdke | theCore, LaserJock, in case no one has said this yet, thanks for working on this | 10:07 |
| theCore | LaserJock, send | 10:07 |
| Burgwork | bshumate, I approved your wiki team membership | 10:08 |
| theCore | mdke, thanks | 10:08 |
| LaserJock | mdke: well, thanks for letting us help Ubuntu | 10:09 |
| mdke | not me guv | 10:09 |
| mdke | ubuntu is open :) | 10:09 |
| LaserJock | I have been turned off of so many distros because it was so difficult to just help | 10:10 |
| bshumate | Heya, and thanks for that Burgwork! :-) | 10:10 |
| Burgwork | LaserJock, I hear what you are saying | 10:10 |
| mdke | ah :) hope you stay with us then LaserJock | 10:10 |
| Burgwork | bshumate, np | 10:10 |
| Burgwork | we gained two members at this CC meeting, Madpilot and bshumate | 10:11 |
| LaserJock | mdke: well, I'm a member now so I can't just leave ;-) | 10:11 |
| mdke | oh shit was Madpilot up today? | 10:11 |
| mdke | didn't see that | 10:11 |
| Burgwork | mdke, he passed, even without either of us being here | 10:11 |
| Burgwork | there | 10:11 |
| theCore | I hope will be member some day | 10:11 |
| mdke | Burgwork, i had no doubt, but I like leaving fanmail when I can't make it ;) | 10:12 |
| mdke | theCore, sure you will, just keep helping us :) | 10:12 |
| LaserJock | theCore: have you started a wiki page for you work? | 10:14 |
| theCore | LaserJock, yes, but its still quite empty | 10:14 |
| theCore | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlexandreVassalotti | 10:15 |
| LaserJock | theCore: well, as long as you keep it up to date before long you will have enough | 10:16 |
| theCore | should I include irc support log ? | 10:19 |
| mdke | theCore, no, but mention that you help out | 10:19 |
| mdke | theCore, nice splash screen btw, did you push it to the artwork people? | 10:20 |
| LaserJock | theCore: yeah, usually the CC doesn't want to read a bunch they just want to see the areas you are involved in and briefly what you have been working on | 10:20 |
| theCore | nah, I just posted it on the art forums | 10:20 |
| mdke | theCore, i like it | 10:21 |
| LaserJock | me too | 10:21 |
| theCore | thanks, so where should I send it ? | 10:22 |
| LaserJock | I suppose you could try the ubuntu-art mailing list | 10:24 |
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| bshumate | mdke: hello, and thanks for the vote of confidence! i appreciate the fanmail! ;-) | 10:33 |
| theCore | could someone send me a email at storm.kbot+test@gmail.com ? | 10:36 |
| theCore | okay then ... | 10:39 |
| theCore | nevermind | 10:39 |
| LaserJock | theCore: sorry, I was working on something else | 10:39 |
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| Burgwork | mdke, what the status of doc.u.c and help.u.c? | 10:57 |
| mdke | bshumate, np | 11:33 |
| mdke | Burgwork, ? | 11:33 |
| mdke | responds here | 11:34 |
| Burgwork | mdke, it was slow | 11:34 |
| Burgwork | never mind | 11:34 |
| mdke | yeah it's slow | 11:34 |
| mdke | -> bed | 11:37 |
| Burgwork | night | 11:39 |
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