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| ds | is there a simple way to build only a subset of packages from linux-source? | 12:42 |
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| === lamont screams at amd64 | ||
| lamont | with an amd64 kernel, and i386 user space, xsane fails to find the scanner - "device busy" | 04:12 |
| mjg59 | Yay 32-bit ioctl emulation | 04:12 |
| mjg59 | That stuff's always broken | 04:13 |
| lamont | sigh. any trivial way to find _which_ ioctl is b0rked? | 04:13 |
| BenC | which is why I am hesitant to provide an amd64 kernel for i386 | 04:14 |
| BenC | lamont: check dmesg | 04:14 |
| lamont | I suppose I could always use 2.6.15, eh? | 04:14 |
| BenC | why not just use i386 kernel? | 04:14 |
| BenC | or 64-bit userspace :) | 04:14 |
| lamont | oh, yeah. plenty of them. | 04:14 |
| lamont | i386 kernel --> double time rate | 04:14 |
| lamont | iz mother board issue that's "fixed" in amd64 kernel, but not in i386 | 04:15 |
| BenC | use noapictimer | 04:15 |
| lamont | that's only implemented in x86_64 | 04:15 |
| BenC | nah, it worked for my sempron notebook (32-bit k8) with -k7 kernel | 04:15 |
| lamont | didn't work for me. | 04:15 |
| lamont | [ 225.362891] ioctl32(xsane:10063): Unknown cmd fd(8) cmd(c00c5512){00} arg(ffff88c0) on /proc/bus/usb/003/001 | 04:15 |
| BenC | weird, did for me | 04:15 |
| BenC | well, you know it's a USB ioctl, just parse cmd to find which one (referencing usb ioctl headers) | 04:16 |
| BenC | gotta run | 04:16 |
| lamont | kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386 root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash noapictimer | 04:16 |
| lamont | like that, I wonder? | 04:16 |
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| lamont | brb | 04:17 |
| mjg59 | noapic nolapic also ought to work | 04:17 |
| lamont | mjg59: which should I use? | 04:17 |
| mjg59 | If noapictimer doesn't work, try noapic nolapic | 04:17 |
| lamont | "noapic nolapic" or each one separately in turn? | 04:17 |
| mjg59 | Both parameters at once | 04:18 |
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| lamont | mjg59: noacpitimer caused the machine to not boot. | 04:45 |
| lamont | noacpi nolacpi gave me doubletime | 04:45 |
| lamont | which gets me back to fixing ioctl's in amd64 | 04:46 |
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| lamont | interesting... chrooting into an amd64 chroot doesn't fix it either... | 04:59 |
| === lamont wonders what all he needs to install in order to have a working breezy/2.6.15 system | ||
| === cjb has a working dapper/2.6.15 amd64 system, fwiw. | ||
| infinity | Meh. | 05:38 |
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| cjb | lamont: Wait, you're seeing double-time? Have you tried acpi_disable_pin_1, or whatever it's called? | 05:39 |
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| cjb | Oh, I see, you're seeing doubletime with noacpi. I'm not helping, then. | 05:40 |
| infinity | mjg59: Feel like thinking more about my scaling problem? | 05:40 |
| infinity | for i in *freq; do echo -n "$i: "; sudo cat $i; done | 05:42 |
| infinity | cpuinfo_cur_freq: 800000 | 05:42 |
| infinity | cpuinfo_max_freq: 2000000 | 05:42 |
| infinity | cpuinfo_min_freq: 800000 | 05:42 |
| infinity | scaling_cur_freq: 800000 | 05:42 |
| infinity | scaling_max_freq: 800000 | 05:42 |
| infinity | scaling_min_freq: 800000 | 05:42 |
| infinity | That would appear to be problematic... | 05:42 |
| mjg59 | Hm. | 05:46 |
| mjg59 | Wonder what scaling_max_freq means | 05:46 |
| infinity | And for reference: | 05:46 |
| infinity | scaling_available_frequencies: 2000000 1600000 1333000 1066000 800000 | 05:46 |
| infinity | So, it sees all the available frequencies, then sets the max to 800000 | 05:47 |
| infinity | AFAICT. | 05:47 |
| infinity | Benchmarks seem to bear this theory out (it's slow as hell right now) | 05:47 |
| mjg59 | On 2.6.5-11, I've got scaling_max_freq: 1200000 | 05:48 |
| mjg59 | Can you echo 2000000 to scaling_max_freq? | 05:48 |
| infinity | That's on a 1.2GHz X40 though, right? | 05:49 |
| mjg59 | Yeah | 05:49 |
| infinity | (base)root@cthulhu:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # echo 2000000 > scaling_max_freq | 05:49 |
| infinity | (base)root@cthulhu:/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq # cat scaling_max_freq | 05:49 |
| infinity | 800000 | 05:49 |
| mjg59 | Right | 05:50 |
| mjg59 | Sounds Dothan specific, then | 05:50 |
| mjg59 | What cpufreq module do you have loaded? | 05:50 |
| infinity | centrino. | 05:50 |
| infinity | Same as always, afaik. | 05:50 |
| mjg59 | Can you stop powernowd, unload that and load acpi-cupfreq? | 05:51 |
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| infinity | Hrm. How can I see what processes are using a module? | 05:52 |
| infinity | (Can't unload speedstep_centrino, in use) | 05:53 |
| mjg59 | Are you still in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq ? | 05:54 |
| infinity | Oh, I could be that retarded... | 05:54 |
| mjg59 | Yay kernel refcounting | 05:55 |
| infinity | Err, no. Leaving did no good. Still a refcount of 1. | 05:55 |
| mjg59 | You didn't cd there, su and then cd out, did you? | 05:57 |
| infinity | No, lsof confirms I'm not that dumb. | 05:58 |
| mjg59 | Ok | 05:58 |
| infinity | (base)root@cthulhu:~ # lsof | grep cpu | 05:59 |
| infinity | nautilus 5407 adconrad 25r REG 0,3 0 4026531851 /proc/cpuinfo | 05:59 |
| mjg59 | Hm. No, it seems I can't unload mine either | 05:59 |
| mjg59 | Bloody thing | 05:59 |
| infinity | Not sure why anything would hold a handle open on /proc/cpuinfo, but that shouldn't matter, I hope. | 05:59 |
| infinity | Go, git, go. | 06:00 |
| infinity | (base)adconrad@cthulhu:~/kernel/ubuntu-2.6$ git pull | 06:01 |
| infinity | [...] | 06:01 |
| infinity | rsync: link_stat "/scm/linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git/refs/heads/for-jgarzik" (in pub) failed: No such file or directory (2) | 06:01 |
| infinity | rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(1173) | 06:01 |
| infinity | Maybe I should just go back to bed. | 06:02 |
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| fabbione | infinity: no, you need to purge the tree and clone it again | 06:23 |
| infinity | Yeah, I'm doing that. | 06:24 |
| infinity | Which is pretty icky, given how much data that is. | 06:24 |
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| zul | heylo | 02:51 |
| BenC | yo chuck | 02:57 |
| zul | yo ben | 03:00 |
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| fabbione | BenC: ping? | 06:28 |
| BenC | fabbione: pong | 06:35 |
| fabbione | BenC: hey | 06:38 |
| fabbione | BenC: did you ever try to boot one of the -server kernels on i386? | 06:38 |
| fabbione | -11- goes foobar on me really badly | 06:38 |
| BenC | yeah, I have a bug report about that | 06:38 |
| fabbione | and i need it for the cluster modules | 06:38 |
| fabbione | ok | 06:38 |
| BenC | going to test -12 on my i386 | 06:38 |
| fabbione | ok thanks | 06:39 |
| fabbione | BenC: we might also need to kill cmirror from our kernel tree | 06:39 |
| fabbione | it's part of redhat-cluster-suite | 06:39 |
| fabbione | i am talking right now with upstream... | 06:40 |
| BenC | feel free, you know all the cluster stuff :) | 06:40 |
| fabbione | yeah sure | 06:41 |
| fabbione | it would also be nice to get ipv6 working on hppa | 06:43 |
| BenC | it's not? | 06:43 |
| BenC | is that a 32-bit userspace, 64-bit kernel issue? | 06:43 |
| fabbione | module ipv6 relocation of symbol in6_dev_finish_destroy is out of range (0x3ffeff7c in 17 bits) | 06:43 |
| fabbione | tons of this | 06:43 |
| fabbione | 32bit kernel | 06:43 |
| BenC | ah | 06:43 |
| fabbione | i still need to try to boot a 64bit kernel on that machine | 06:43 |
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| fabbione | BenC: did zachery died again? | 07:11 |
| fabbione | oh christ | 07:12 |
| mjg59 | "First Mac with Intel processor today." | 07:12 |
| trappist | fellas I sent an email to the kernel-team list per fabbione's suggestion about building iptables against the source of the running kernel and haven't heard a peep out of the list since then. is my subscription busted or does that list really not see that much traffic? | 07:16 |
| cjb` | But it's an iMac. :( | 07:20 |
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| cjb | I think they might throw in an Intel laptop as the "One more thing.." | 07:21 |
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| fabbione | trappist: the mail is there, do you want to give people sometime to read and think about it? | 07:56 |
| fabbione | pushing won't help | 07:56 |
| trappist | fabbione: not trying to push. I just haven't seen *any* traffic on the list and was beginning to wonder if my subscription had gotten lost. | 08:00 |
| zul | trappist: its a very very low volume list | 08:09 |
| trappist | zul: that answers my question, thanks | 08:11 |
| zul | there is also something about in ubuntu-devel mailing list.. | 08:27 |
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| BenC | trapist: I saw it, but I'm no iptables expert | 08:45 |
| Mithrandir | BenC: did you have a chance to track down any of the unionfs bugs? | 08:48 |
| Mithrandir | on ppc | 08:48 |
| BenC | Mith: I was hoping the new unionfs woudl fix it | 08:53 |
| Mithrandir | BenC: I can enable unionfs for ppc again and we can see | 08:54 |
| BenC | Mithrandir: is it still broken with latest daily builds? | 08:54 |
| BenC | I'm willing to test it | 08:54 |
| Mithrandir | I don't have a working PPC, so it's a bit hard for me to test it. :-) | 08:54 |
| BenC | I have G4/G5 so I can test if it's enabled | 08:55 |
| BenC | been meaning to test the new yaboot anyway | 08:55 |
| Mithrandir | ok, assuming the next live fs build works ok, please grab tomorrow's live image and test it. | 08:56 |
| BenC | sure thing | 08:58 |
| cjb | BenC: So, replacing your obsolete PB with a MacBook anytime soon? :) | 09:03 |
| zul | BenC: did you have a chance to do a pull yet? | 09:18 |
| BenC | zul: I tried a pull, but it didn't work | 09:31 |
| zul | blah...ill look at it | 09:37 |
| zul | when? | 09:38 |
| zul | BenC: fixed i just did a pull from my tree.. | 09:55 |
| zul | http://zulinux.homelinux.net/git/ubuntu-2.6.git | 09:55 |
| BenC | ok | 10:02 |
| zul | i dont know what happened apache must have gotten screwed up or something | 10:03 |
| ds | mdz: there's a new release of swfdec out | 10:11 |
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