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OgMacielSeveas, ping05:01
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anandaputraHalloo.. is this room loged?05:29
jsgotangcoyes05:29
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anandaputraI just want to say that I can't join the meeting today (tonite)..05:30
jsgotangcodid you list yourself in the wiki?05:30
anandaputra15:00 UTC is 10:00 PM in Jakarta, Indonesia..05:30
anandaputrayes i am..05:31
anandaputrabut unfortunately i couldn't join the meeting.. it will be at nite in Jakarta..05:31
anandaputraand i have no internet connection tonite.. :(05:32
jsgotangcoahh too bad just in case i'm at the meeting i'll inform the guys then05:33
anandaputranice.. thank you jerome.. :)05:34
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raphinkhi Simira 12:21
Simirahello12:21
sivangmeeting soon?12:24
Seveas3.5 hours12:24
sivangCC ?12:24
Seveasyep12:25
Simiraoh, no12:26
raphink:)12:27
SimiraI'll just make a part of it, going to the dentist at 17(16 utc)12:27
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raphinkor quite alphabetically12:28
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SimiraI'm not gonna live through this meeting. I'm so tired I'll drop off any time03:43
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SeveasSimira, it did not even start yet :)03:45
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jsgotangco:D03:46
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jsgotangcohi mako 03:46
mhzjsgotangco: hi, there03:47
jsgotangcolo mhz 03:47
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mhzI must leave now, to the Pharmacy and so, I won't be able to get back before meeting. Family need :(03:47
mhzjsgotangco: Yagisan: sorry03:48
jsgotangcono worries03:48
Yagisanmhz: no need to be sorry03:48
mhzI'll do my best to get back ASAP03:48
raphinkhi there03:49
sivanghi all03:50
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makogreetings 03:54
Simiramako :)03:55
jsgotangcoyo03:55
raphink:)03:55
ubuntuser_baHi!03:55
lucasdaloha03:55
Madpilotmorning everyone03:56
twilighthi all03:56
makoergh03:57
makoi just spilled coffee03:57
makothe second time in 10 minutes03:57
jsgotangcoclassic mako!03:57
Madpilotmissed the keyboard, I hope? :P03:57
ealdenhi all03:58
lguerrahi all03:59
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makoyeah03:59
makojust the carpet :)04:00
dholbachhello04:00
ubuntuser_bano problem.. :)04:00
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mhzjsgotangco: lguerra is a colombian 'ubuntero' and has been one of the very few active and willing to help guys in #edubuntu-es04:00
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Seveasbye04:02
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jsgotangcoahhh04:02
ealdenbye mhz 04:02
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ubuntuser_bahi OgMaciel 04:03
OgMaciel[morning/afternoon/evening]  all04:03
ubuntuser_ba;)04:03
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OgMacielubuntuser_ba hey dude04:03
OgMacieljsgotangco how are ya?04:04
ubuntuser_ba"tranquillo"04:04
OgMacielubuntuser_ba yup...  ;)04:04
Seveas16:04 here04:04
Seveasmako, poke04:04
twilightubuntuser_ba, italian?04:04
jsgotangcopretty good04:04
raphinksame here :)04:04
Seveasis the rest of the CC around?04:04
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OgMacielSeveas hey bud... long time don't see ya04:04
raphinkwho is that for Treenaks ?04:04
ubuntuser_baBrazilian04:04
Kamionhi04:05
byteunixhi04:05
ealdenlol04:05
Treenaks16:04 <      Seveas> is the rest of the CC around?04:05
makoSeveas: i've been here the whole time04:05
ubuntuser_batwilight, and you?04:05
Seveasmako, but we need at least 2 more CC members for quorum ;)04:05
twilightubuntuser_ba, the word "tranquillo" is italan, too..I'm italian :) sorry04:05
lucasdOgMaciel, hi there.. :)04:05
twilight*italian04:05
makowell, quit poking me..  i'm the one hwo actually showed up :)04:05
OgMaciellucasd sup bud?04:06
ubuntuser_batwilight, i like italian words... capisci?04:06
ubuntuser_ba;)04:06
Simiraelmo was just alive om #-devel04:06
twilightubuntuser_ba, capisco :)04:06
ogra_ibookKamion was seen today as well already ...04:06
byteunixI like girl italian :), capisci ;) ubuntuser_ba04:06
lucasdOgMaciel, i'll grab my lunch and will be right back04:06
Kamionogra_ibook: dude I said "hi" just up above04:06
Kamionlay off :)04:06
ogra_ibookoops04:06
Seveasmako, hehe, I just hoped you knew where the rest is04:06
OgMaciellucads k04:06
SeveasKamion, poke04:07
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Kamionok, elmo's in channel so I imagine he'll pop up when something happens04:10
Kamionlet's start04:10
Kamionwe have no locoteam business this meeting04:10
Kamionand a bunch of member candidates04:10
Seveasand some other business04:10
MarioMeyer:)04:11
Seveasah, no ther business04:11
Kamionnone on the agenda04:11
KamionAnandaPutra: here?04:11
KamionFRNSantos: here?04:11
KamionLorenzoSfarra: here?04:11
ubuntuser_bayes, I am FRNSantos04:11
twilightyes04:11
twilight<- LorenzoSfarra04:11
Seveasubuntuser_ba, hi there04:11
makotwilight: ok.. hold on.. lets deal with ubuntuser_ba  first04:11
ubuntuser_baok04:12
Seveasubuntuser_ba, give us the 3-liner please :)04:12
twilightmako, no problem04:12
ubuntuser_baMy name is Fabio Nogueira, a 30 year-old Brazilian living in Salvador, Bahia.  I currently work for the State Justice Court as a computer technician and as an assistant to the system administrator, mostly handling the support of users and hardware.04:12
Seveasthat's line 1 :)04:12
raphink;)04:12
ubuntuser_baMy relationship with Linux started with a few Live CDs (Kurumin, Kalango, etc), eventually moving through Fedora and Mandrake.  It was only after I tried Ubuntu that I first experienced true nirvana!04:12
OgMacielhehe04:13
ubuntuser_baThis feeling has stayed with me now... the entire "Ubuntu way of life" appeals to me and I want to share it with the whole world.  I often find myself "spreading the word" at every place I go to... supermarkets, butcher shop, etc..04:13
ubuntuser_baand...04:13
ubuntuser_baI strongly believe that I'm ready and willing to take the responsibility that comes with being part of the Ubuntu Family!04:13
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OgMacielKamion hehehe04:14
raphink:)04:14
jsgotangcoheh04:14
MarioMeyer:P04:14
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Kamionhow many are there on the pt_BR translation team now?04:14
makoOgMaciel: thanks for the testimonial04:14
makoit's helpful04:14
OgMacielhere04:14
OgMacielmako my pleasure to endorse him04:14
MarioMeyerabout 62, Kamion 04:14
makowow04:14
lucasdOgMaciel, back :)04:14
Seveasthat's... a LOT04:15
jsgotangcowow04:15
Kamion*62*?04:15
OgMacieland many more awaiting approval04:15
Seveashow many active members?04:15
MarioMeyerbut not all active04:15
Madpilotthey're busy down in BR!04:15
OgMacielSeveas 6204:15
Kamionhow do you coordinate that many people?04:15
Seveasare they alla ctively translating?04:15
OgMacielKamion we sometimes hold "sweepstakes"... hehehe04:15
MarioMeyerwe are planing some "application" process04:15
MarioMeyerlike tutoring the new ones..04:15
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KamionI suppose translation work divides up easily enough, but you still have to ensure consistency of vocabulary and stuff04:16
OgMacielSeveas somewhat04:16
makoMarioMeyer: lightweight with support for those that need it or want it is always good04:16
MarioMeyeri say we have about 10 to 15 active translators04:16
OgMacielKamion absolutely04:16
SeveasKamion, exactly, we kicked out lots of people in -nl that made crap translations04:16
ubuntuser_baand bad translations....04:16
Treenaksand just plain wrong translations04:17
=== Treenaks Martijn van de Streek, btw
MarioMeyeryeah.. ubuntuser_ba has been doing a LOT of revisions of bad translations04:17
MarioMeyerhe has made rosetta all blue.. :P04:17
Seveashaha04:17
OgMacielubuntuser_ba has actually won a sweepstake I sponsored for translators... he's scored the highest karma04:17
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ubuntuser_bablue translations is necessary04:18
makokiller :)04:18
OgMacielhe won an upcoming Ubuntu book whicj I'll be mailing to him soon04:18
makovery excellent04:18
raphinkoo nice :)04:18
makoubuntuser_ba: how long have you been involved?04:18
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OgMacielyup... he seems to have no life... hehehe04:18
ubuntuser_bawith translations or Ubuntu?04:18
OgMacielKamion we've been busy spreading the word... ;)04:19
MarioMeyerKamion, we've been working a lot on that04:19
OgMacielour wiki has been getting bigger too, thanks to people like ubuntuser_ba and lucasd04:19
Kamionwell, I'm happy with ubuntuser_ba for membership; you're clearly working hard and it's a strong community04:20
OgMaciel2 workhorses of the team04:20
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Kamionelmo: ?04:20
makoabsolutely04:20
ubuntuser_baKamion, thanks04:20
SeveasLorenzoSfarra, keep your 3-liner nearby, you're up soon04:20
elmoack04:21
OgMacielubuntuser_ba congrats my friend!!!  =)04:21
MarioMeyercongrats, ubuntuser_ba :P04:21
Seveaswelcome!04:21
ubuntuser_bathank you04:21
twilightSeveas, ok..just tell me when I have to past them. (congrats ubuntuser_ba :) )04:21
lucasdubuntulog, congrats.. :)04:21
ubuntuser_baI am very happy now..04:21
Seveastwilight, about now would be ok :)04:21
Seveasubuntuser_ba, you deserved it, keep up the good work04:21
makoubuntuser_ba: your wikipage was excellent as well04:22
twilightPages: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LorenzoSfarra - https://launchpad.net/people/lorenzosfarra04:22
OgMacielSeveas I'll make sure he does  ;)04:22
twilightI'm 20 years old Italian guy. I'm student of Computer Science Department of L'Aquila University(Ita). I'm LocoTeam member of Ubuntu Italian Community, Member of Ubuntu Italian Translators, Member of Italian Documentation's group, Member of Italian Forum's group, Member of Italian Web's group and Member of Ubuntu Italian Planet.04:22
makogood combination of testimonials, description, and evidence of contributions04:22
ubuntuser_bamako, thanks!04:22
twilightWith some friends, I've carry out a reorganization of Ubuntu Italian Community. I'm very interested in programming, expecially with python. In python, I've written a simple program to move Italian Page from wiki.ubuntu.com to our (Italian) wiki.ubuntu-it.org.04:22
Kamion07:53 <mdke> LorenzoSfarra (twilight) - he's the 4th member of the Italian locoteam group, and the only one not a member yet. he contributes heavily to translation work, on the italian wiki, he edits the main italian website and is a forum moderator. He has given a lot of time to the project for many months now, and is a really vital part of our team.04:23
Kamion(from /msg earlier today)04:23
Seveasmako, the NewMemberHowto seems to work, more of the people to show up this week show excellent pages :)04:23
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makoexcellent04:24
Seveashmm, quite a good testimonial from mdke, that's not bad :)04:24
makoyes, also a very good page04:24
KamionItalian Planet not quite so active but still not doing too bad04:24
twilightthank you mako04:24
makoquite a lot of text04:24
twilightKamion, planet it's a new project..so it's in "development":)04:25
jsgotangcojust like en planet lol04:25
twilightI believe that it will be more active soon04:25
Kamionit's only about as active as the English one. :-)04:25
makohey.. i post something on planet.u.o every day :)04:25
Kamionsame as above really, I'm happy, especially with mdke's testimonial04:26
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Kamionbrb, coffee underflow04:26
Seveaslol04:26
Seveas"coffee underflow" :)04:26
makotwilight: very excellent document of very excellent contributioons04:26
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makoi'm thrilled to have you on board04:26
Seveasthe italian team should be proud of itself :)04:27
twilightthank you very much04:27
raphink:)04:27
makoelmo: ?04:28
elmoack04:28
Seveasnow we wait for the coffee :)04:28
makokiller04:28
makowe can keep things moving.. kamion will catch up04:28
Seveasok04:28
makolucasd: go ahead04:28
lucasdMy name is Lucas. I live in Maranho/Brazil. I've ever been a big fan of free software and I wanted to actually live it. So I started using Linux. Before Ubuntu, I have already used Slackware, Red Hat and Debian, and then, 6 months ago, I met Ubuntu.04:29
lucasdAs an engaged community person, I did a lot of things I could to Ubuntu. For instance, I've been a constant helper at IRC and at Mailing lists, and tried to help with tasks related to our community. Also, I've translated a lot of packages to my native language at Rosetta.04:29
lucasdIn the future, I wanna dedicate more of my time to Ubuntu, start to work with things I haven't helped at all. As an Ubuntu official member, I'll have more support  to organize and participate of events about Ubuntu, help with Brazil' regional sub-teams. And, of course, spread Ubuntu everywhere I can.04:29
Seveastwilight, please hang around, kamion still has to vote and will do that soon04:29
ogra_ibookSeveas, he did04:29
ogra_ibookSeveas, "Kamion same as above really, I'm happy, especially with mdke's testimonial"04:30
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Seveasah ok04:30
Seveasin that case: welcome aboard twilight ! congratulations!04:30
twilightThanks all04:30
Kamionback04:30
dholbachcongratulations! :)04:30
MarioMeyercongrats twilight 04:30
ubuntuser_baCongratulations twilight 04:30
ogra_ibookcongrats04:30
Seveaslucas, what is STOPy?04:31
jsgotangcono ponies as throphies though04:31
lucasSeveas: lucasd != lucas04:31
ubuntuser_bacongratulazioni, twilight 04:31
raphink;)04:31
Seveaslucasd, what is STOPy?04:31
lucasdSeveas, it's a game where a word is choosen and everybody who is playing has to give words starting with that word04:31
Seveasone of you, change your nickname :p04:31
lucas(but I expected to be highlighted quite a lot today ;p)04:31
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lucasdso.. the STOPy is a game written in Python using GTK that simulates this game04:32
twilightubuntuser_ba, grazie mille! and congratulations for your italian :)04:32
lucasdand, it uses the IRC to the communication04:32
ogra_ibookhmm, sounds intresting for edubuntu :)04:32
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MarioMeyerogra_ibook, brazillians actually play that a lot in schools04:32
ogra_ibookcool !04:33
MarioMeyerinstead of watching the classes.. lol04:33
Seveashehe04:33
OgMacielhehe04:33
ubuntuser_bain out of school too.. ;)04:33
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Seveaslucasd, you should either avoid ogra the coming weeks or get that game into Ubuntu ;)04:33
ogra_ibooklol04:33
OgMaciellucasd has, as they say in the street, some "mad programming skillz"  ;)04:33
MarioMeyerhe tought me everything i know about PyGTK04:34
lucasdSeveas, we have a plan to include this in Ubuntu, but the project not quite mature yet04:34
MarioMeyerlol04:34
lucasdhehe04:34
Seveaslucasd, then now you have one more reason to complete it04:34
ubuntuser_bahehehehe04:34
ogra_ibookyeah04:34
lucasdfor sure..04:34
MarioMeyer:P04:34
makothe translations work looks very good04:34
Seveasyup04:35
makoas does the other loco team work04:35
ubuntuser_baUbuntu here in Brazil is very serious uf us.. ;)04:35
Seveasand the Brazil team is rocking quite hard04:35
ubuntuser_bato us..04:35
MarioMeyeri think, together with ubuntuser_ba, lucasd  is the "real active translation team"04:35
OgMacielSeveas right on!04:35
OgMacielMarioMeyer agreed!04:35
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makoOgMaciel, MarioMeyer: your feedback is helpful04:36
Seveaswb mhz 04:36
mhz;)04:36
MarioMeyer:P04:36
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KamionI hope we'll be seeing a few more .br people move into at least MOTU, with this number of people interested04:36
makofine even04:36
OgMacielmako thanks04:36
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Kamionyeah, also fine with lucasd04:36
Seveaslucasd, so join the MOTU :)04:36
elmoack04:36
OgMacielKamion it is one of my resolutions for 2006!  ;)04:36
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MarioMeyeri'll start packaging soon04:37
ogra_ibooklucasd, welcome aboard04:37
Seveaslucasd, Congrats!04:37
OgMaciellucasd congrats!04:37
lucasdthanks very much :)04:37
jsgotangcocongratulations04:37
MarioMeyercongrats lucasd 04:37
lucasdall of you =] 04:37
Seveasubuntu-br++ :)04:37
raphink:)04:37
ubuntuser_ba"Parabns"  Lucas04:37
makolets move on04:37
SeveasBrian Burger / Madpilot 04:37
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makoMadpilot04:37
OgMacieljsgotangco hehehe04:37
MadpilotI'm here, have caffeine even... :P04:37
ubuntuser_bajsgotangco, you are welcome!04:38
OgMacieljsgotangco we can always use help04:38
MarioMeyerjsgotangco, u'll be welcome here :P04:38
MadpilotMadpilot's Obligatory Three-Liner... Ubuntu wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Madpilot LP: https://launchpad.net/people/yh72804:38
SeveasMadpilot cool, then give us the 3-liner :)04:38
MadpilotMy name is Brian Burger. I've been using Linux only since May/05, and contributing to the Ubuntu project nearly as long, mostly on the wiki and DocTeam projects - I can't program, but I *can* proofread, edit and document. I've helped rewrite a couple of sections of the Desktop Guide, including the whole CD burning section. I'm also involved in the Canadian LoCo Team & Marketing.04:38
MadpilotI try to provide intelligent feedback from a new-to-Linux-but-learning-fast perspective, and in between that there's always typos on the wiki to hunt down and kill!04:38
dholbachMadpilot: so you're responsible for those 24679246 wiki mails i get from you per week? :)04:38
SeveasMadpilot is also quite active on IRC04:38
Seveasactive and helpful even :)04:38
jsgotangcono that's the other Burger heh04:39
Madpilothmm, yeah, I left the IRC stuff out of the three liner, didn't I?04:39
=== OgMaciel has to go now... congrats to all new members and good luck to remaining candidates
makoOgMaciel: thanks for showing up04:39
ubuntuser_baThansk OgMaciel 04:39
OgMacielmako always a pleasurew04:39
ubuntuser_ba*thanks04:39
SeveasMadpilot, how active are you on the forums?04:39
Madpilotdholbach: that's probably my younger brother, Corey/Burgundavia - he's noisier that me...04:39
lucasdOgMaciel, thanks very much :)04:39
raphinkbye OgMaciel 04:39
OgMaciellater guys...04:39
MadpilotSeveas: middling active, mostly on the Gnome Desktop & Absolute Beginners sections04:39
dholbachMadpilot: you're quite active too :)04:40
makois there anyone from the docteam with a testimonial?04:40
jsgotangco+1 he's been very active in doc/wiki04:40
Seveaswe need more forum - CC meeting interaction, it would help if you join the CC meetings more often when there are forum issues so you can feed them back there04:40
mhzAs a Moin fan, I can tell Madpilot has been doing a really awsome work on wiki keeping04:40
Kamionthe wiki being what it is, it's hard to tell exactly which parts of that are your writing style, but I like it anyway04:40
jsgotangcohe may not be the greatest docbook author out there, but he does help everyday04:40
Kamion(-> Madpilot)04:40
Seveasjsgotangco, nice04:40
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jsgotangcoanother Burger won't hurt04:41
jsgotangco:D04:41
Madpilotjsgotangco: :P04:41
raphinklol04:41
jsgotangcodholbach, make that x2 of the mails we receive then04:41
ogra_ibookheh04:41
dholbach:)04:42
makojsgotangco: nepotism has no place in our project04:42
jsgotangcolol04:42
Seveashmm04:43
=== mhz would like to have a mad pilot and a burger as a fella memeber
Kamionwell, the things I've been browsing through on the wiki for five minutes look pretty good04:43
makoditto04:44
Kamionand I'm definitely keen to encourage people who are relatively new to free software and are writing documentation04:44
mhzI think Madpilot has been very efficient04:44
jsgotangcooh he's been here for a very long time04:44
makoi also appreciate the irc support work althought that's harder for me to gugage04:44
jsgotangcohe's been very very visible as well04:44
Kamionsince the programmers here will know that it's very very hard to try to think yourself back to the point where you *didn't* understand things when writing documentation04:44
Seveasmako, he's one of the good guys in #ubuntu 04:44
=== mako is happy with membership
Kamion<aol>04:45
elmoack04:45
=== Seveas actually wants to propose him as op as soon as we need more (with a channel growing this hard, that point will be reached soon)
jsgotangcoweeee04:45
makois manu around?04:45
KamionSeveas: I certainly wouldn't object if he's willing04:46
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elmois the stuff on http://www.manucornet.net/ubuntu/ getting integrated into gnome?04:46
ogra_ibookdoesnt look like04:46
makoalright04:46
ogra_ibookelmo, yup04:46
KamionMadpilot: could you please visit https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntumembers/+join to propose yourself for membership of the relevant team?04:46
makonice hackergotchi picture04:46
Seveaslllmanulll04:46
MadpilotSeveas: let me know, I'm willing to op if needed...04:46
makoelmo: no idea04:46
MadpilotKamion: doing that right now04:46
SeveasMadpilot, when needed, I'll poke :)04:47
makoalright...04:47
makoazeem is next?04:47
ogra_ibookelmo, its all in already ...04:47
KamionMadpilot: thanks04:47
dholbachlllmanulll can't be here - did the meeting time change?04:47
Seveasno04:47
MadpilotKamion: done04:47
makoi feel like i've approved azeem as a member like 3 times04:47
elmoogra: sweet04:47
Seveasthere was an error at the wiki though04:47
raphinkdholbach: yes a few weeks ago04:48
mako:)04:48
KamionI thought we'd approved azeem before, but maybe it was only 2/404:48
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azeemKamion: one time, we timed out04:48
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azeemthe other time, I was /away04:48
dholbachthat's at least, what he said. If he'd been here, I'd been happy to give a testimonial.04:48
azeemI never got to even paste my 3-liner04:48
makoazeem: we can make it official then04:48
Seveasazeem, ah right, you were ok with postponing04:48
makoazeem: well hurry up :)04:48
Seveasazeem, well, give us the 3-lineer now then :)04:48
Kamionoh, you were at a christmas party last time04:48
azeemI am Michael Banck, a 28 year old chemistry PhD student from Munich, Germany.  My wiki page is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MichaelBanck and my LaunchPad page at https://launchpad.net/people/mbanck04:48
azeemI have been using GNU/Linux for almost ten years and Ubuntu for about one year now (and maintain my parent's desktop since October 2004).  I am a Debian Developer as well. I do various things for Debian but plan to do mainly scientific/chemistry related work for Ubuntu as part of MOTUScience.04:49
azeemI have done so for some chemistry packages for a while now, by merging back Ubuntu changes to Debian and making sure the Debian packages build fine on Ubuntu as well. I also cared for multisync in Ubuntu in the past and recently joined lifeless and ajmitch for a more ambitious opensync/multisync effort for Ubuntu/Debian.04:49
azeemthere.04:49
elmoI object04:49
Seveashttp://www.manucornet.net/ubuntu/JPEG/xmms.png <-- the jdub icon!04:49
elmohis name is not Michael Banck, it's Ben Affleck04:49
azeemelmo: figures04:49
ogra_ibooklol04:49
jsgotangcolol04:49
dholbachhaha :)04:49
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ogra_ibookelmo, old one :)04:49
azeemelmo: I prefer to be called Josh Hartnett these days04:49
=== azeem likes Scarlett
azeemanyway04:49
dholbachLet's call him Scarlett then.04:50
sivangelmo: LOL04:50
=== azeem feels reduced to his looks
=== mako has been watching azeem contribute since nearly day one
ubuntuser_baFriends... i have to go..04:50
Seveasubuntuser_ba, bye04:50
makobut is happy to have ben affleck on board04:50
ubuntuser_baI'm hungry04:50
raphinkciao ubuntuser_ba 04:50
jsgotangcoanother celebrity won't hurt eh04:50
sistpotyif I could vote: make azeem a motu tonight ;)04:50
ubuntuser_ba[] 's04:50
=== sivang wonders how azeem is still not a member, recalls him from way way back
ubuntuser_baThank you... see u soon04:51
ogra_ibooksistpoty++04:51
sivangand what sistpoty said04:51
elmo(more seriously) happy to ack azeem04:51
SeveasKamion, do you want Josh Hartnett on board?04:51
Seveasif so, then all of his personalities are welcome :)04:51
sivangwho's Josh Hartnett ?04:51
Kamionyeah, I'm happy with azeem obviously, he's been low-level-around in Ubuntu since pre-warty and I'm glad he's wanting to contribute to MOTU now04:51
Seveascool!04:52
makoexcellent04:52
Seveasmuchos welcome, azeem!04:52
azeemthanks04:52
Kamion(and he's clearly one of the good guys)04:52
ogra_ibookwelcome azeem !!04:52
lucasdazeem, congrats! :)04:52
sistpotycongrats azeem04:52
mhzazeem: congrats04:52
makoi think RaphaelPinson has the first wiki page that has, and needs, a table of contents04:52
raphinkI'm Raphal Pinson, a 23 years old french guy. (WikiPage : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaphaelPinson ; LP Profile : http://launchpad.net/people/raphink ). After having used GNU/Linux for about 3 years (mostly Mandrake and Debian), I tried Ubuntu in January 2005, but definitely switched to it in October.04:52
MarioMeyercongrats azeem 04:52
raphinkI've been involved in Ubuntu as a MOTU Helpful for more than 2 months, uploading packages to REVU, merging packages and reviewing packages on REVU. I've got 8 packages in Dapper through REVU. I also work on improving the MOTU documentation on the wiki, and help on IRC channels. I'm admin on #kubuntu-fr and #kubuntu-it. I'm part of the MOTU-Reviewers, Ubuntu French Translators and Kubuntu teams on LP.04:52
raphinkI share the Ubuntu spirit and distro around me all the time ;) I'd like to become a MOTU to make more helpful contributions to Ubuntu, and just to be a member to feel more involved in the community :)04:52
raphink:)04:52
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Kamionok, see you in ten minutes when I've read that wiki page04:53
jsgotangcolol04:53
Seveassince the previous meeting, I've seen raphink being active a lot04:53
dholbachraphink ROCKs!04:53
ogra_ibooki'm astonished it took you this long to apply for member :)04:53
raphinklol04:53
sistpotyfrom raphink's work on motu-side, it's quite a shame he isn't even a member yet04:53
Kamionichthux> I am INEXORABLY reminded of Jesux04:53
Kamionsorry :)04:53
=== lucas thinks the same as everybody here
raphinkKamion: argh no ;)04:53
raphinksistpoty: couldn't apply before, hadn't been involved long enough ;)04:53
makoKamion: hm...04:54
Riddellraphink has done some great KDE MOTU work including reviewing others packages (much needed) so I fully support his membership04:54
sistpotyraphink: that was meant as praise ;)04:54
raphink;)04:54
Seveasraphink, please review my package, i need one more advocate :)04:55
raphinkSeveas: can't advocate yet I'm afraid ;)04:55
RiddellSeveas: he can't advocate yet, not a MOTU04:55
dholbachraphink didn't need to be told what to do, he just was there and started working in the team. I'm completely happy with him as a member (and MOTU soon) too.04:55
Seveasraphink, Riddell that'll change pretty soon I guess ;)04:56
Kamioncertainly more Kubuntu-based MOTU work seems like a good thing; I haven't followed up all the links to packages but if Riddell's happy with him on that front then that's good enough for me04:56
raphink:)04:56
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ogra_ibooki'm always impressed how he jumps in to help others 04:57
makosounds great04:57
elmoI'm happy with raphink for membershipbased on what I've seen of his packaging04:57
raphink:D04:57
Kamionraphink: could you please visit https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntumembers/+join to propose yourself for membership of the relevant team?04:58
makopatrick davies?04:58
raphinksure :)04:59
raphinkwith pleasure :)04:59
Seveasraphink, welcome on board :)04:59
raphinkthank you guys :)04:59
raphinkty Seveas :)04:59
lucasdraphink, congratis! :] 04:59
lucasd*congrats04:59
MarioMeyercongrats raphink 04:59
raphinkI'm pleased to be part of such a great community :)04:59
sistpotycongrats raphink04:59
dholbachraphink: i'm glad you're in the team. :-)04:59
ogra_ibookwe are happy to have you around04:59
KamionBrian Shumate?04:59
raphink:)04:59
jsgotangcobshumate, ping04:59
bshumatehi04:59
KamionI have a testimonial for Brian from mdke, if he's here05:00
bshumateGreetings everyone! My name is Brian Shumate; I'm a 32 year-old IT guy, with about two decades of computing experience, and half of that in a professional capacity as a IT Consultant, System Administrator, and Technologist. 05:00
bshumateI am also an Artist, a father of 2 wonderful children, and the husband of a charming wife.  I've used GNU/Linux now for about twelve years now, and Ubuntu is what prompted me to show my appreciation by giving back to the FLOSS world! :-)05:00
bshumateIn the last two months+ I have been active almost exclusively in the Documentation Team, having contributed eight patches, and authored five Wiki pages.  I've provided some help in the #ubuntu IRC channel for the past two months as well. I am also in the final stages of preparing an Art Project which I sincerely hope will garner Ubuntu plenty of positive free press in the coming months! 05:00
mhzraphink: yahoo!05:00
raphinkmhz: :)05:00
bshumateIn the future, I plan to author more Wiki pages, and guides for those new to Ubuntu, and assist the Documentation Team in any capacity required. I hope to also conclude the writing of an Ubuntu-related book that I have in progress at present. ;-) 05:00
Kamion07:54 <mdke> BrianShumate (bshumate) - has been contributing regularly to the documentation team for the last couple of months and in that time has produced more documentation than anyone else. He has contributed several passages to the serverguide for dapper, and several extremely high class wiki pages, mainly about security. He is a incredibly valuable member of the doc team.05:01
Seveassecurity documentation++05:01
makonice05:01
jsgotangcoOpenSSL wiki page05:01
=== Seveas feeds ubotu these pages
Madpilotbshumate's wiki pages are excellent - the Bastille Linux one & Strong Passwords ones especially.05:02
Seveasi'm browsing through a few of them, they are great05:02
makoexcellent work05:02
=== Kamion goes off to read the openssh ones
makoand mdke's recommendation is a strong point as well05:02
SeveasAllowUsers jhendrix svaughan05:03
SeveasDenyUsers wgates sballmer05:03
SeveasLOL!05:03
=== bshumate enjoys helping a truly noble cause
bshumateSeveas: ;-)05:04
Kamionbshumate: in the modern world you probably want PubkeyAuthentication rather than RSAAuthentication - the latter's protocol 1 only05:04
Kamion(reading the server guide)05:04
bshumateKamion: good point there! I'll adjust it.05:05
sivangSeveas: ubotu ?05:05
Seveassivang, the resident cluebot in #ubuntu05:05
sivangSeveas: ah nice05:05
KamionI disagree with you about PermitRootLogin, but that's a long-standing argument we certainly aren't going to resolve here. :)05:05
bshumateKamion: i personally use "without-password" ;-)05:06
Kamionalso X11Forwarding is not a risk to the server, it's a risk to the client05:06
ogra_ibookand disabling it would break ltsp :)05:06
Kamionogra_ibook: nobody's talking about the defaults05:07
ogra_ibooki know05:07
Kamionanyway, while I have some quibbles with the details, on the whole it's very clear and good documentation05:07
sivangKamion: how so?05:08
Kamionso yeah, I'm fine with bshumate for membership based on what I'm seeing. More of the same would rock. :-)05:08
Kamionsivang: aboe05:08
Kamionabove05:08
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sivangeh05:08
makosame from me05:08
makothe docs i've looked through look great05:08
Kamionbshumate: oh, also, disabling password prompts can also involve disabling keyboard-interactive auth05:08
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Seveasgreat documentation05:08
mhzMadpilot: so, I never got the part were you were accepted but ogra told me you were, so Congrats!!!05:08
Kamion(ChallengeResponseAuthentication no)05:08
Madpilotmhz: thanks!05:09
bshumateKamion: noted. I'll spruce it up accordingly. ;-)05:09
Kamionbshumate: yeah, without-password is pretty reasonable and useful since you can configure sshd to give you an audit trail of the public key used to log in as root05:09
Kamionwhich can be useful on boxes with multiple admins05:10
makoelmo: ?05:10
Kamion(though you can do similar things with sudo of course)05:10
elmoack05:10
makothat's it for my list05:10
Seveasok, cool05:10
Seveaswelcome aboard bshumate!05:10
makoanyone else here have other business for the council?05:10
jsgotangcoweeee05:10
lucasdbshumate, congratulations! :)05:10
Seveas(and please keep on writing such good documentation)05:11
bshumateThanks everyone!05:11
makospeak now or hold your peace for 2 weeks05:11
ogra_ibookcongrats bshumate 05:11
MarioMeyercongrats bshumate 05:11
twilightbshumate, congratulations!05:11
Kamionbshumate: thanks!05:11
makogoing once!05:11
MarioMeyermeeting ending early :P05:11
makogoing twice!05:11
MarioMeyernot usual05:11
bshumateCongrats to all the new members! :-)05:11
mako*gavel*05:11
raphink:)05:11
raphinkthanks bshumate 05:11
Kamionhang on05:11
KamionI have one thing05:11
makodamnit05:11
dholbachgrats!05:11
mako:)05:11
jsgotangcolol05:11
SeveasI'm gonna make dinner, will write the summary later05:11
makoKamion: ok05:11
Madpilotyeah, congrats to all, and thanks!05:11
mhzbshumate: google!!!05:11
Seveasahm Kamion has to spoil it :p 05:11
Kamionwe have some, er, notable people on the lp proposed members list05:12
bshumatemhz: hmm?05:12
makoKamion: ahh.. good point05:12
MarioMeyerjust 1 thing.. a brazillian member wants to buy kubuntu-br.org and start using it.. does the CC have anything agains it?05:12
KamionJane Weideman, Jeff Waugh05:12
makoah,05:12
Kamionanyone object to me just setting those to approved?05:12
mhzbshumate: congrats! it's just that i told raphink 'yahoo' :D05:12
elmono05:12
dholbachKamion: we should interrogate both of them. :-)05:12
makojeff and jane sound fine05:13
Seveasdholbach, agreed05:13
KamionI think it's pretty obvious they've been making sustained and significant contributions :-)05:13
ogra_ibookheh05:13
SeveasKamion, someone should prune that list too05:13
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RiddellMarioMeyer: ideally they'd get canonical to buy it05:13
makoi think we can bend the rules for those two :)05:13
SeveasI've been poking them a few months ago05:13
bshumatemhz: ahh. thanks! :-)05:13
=== mhz must leave now
makoKamion: are you approving folks?05:14
mhzbye all05:14
makoKamion: in lp?05:14
Kamionmako: yeah, I think I've done everyone approved this meeting05:14
mhzCongrats to everyone in05:14
RiddellMarioMeyer: who wants to buy it and for what purpose?05:14
Kamionif I've missed anyone as of now, please let me know05:14
twilightbye mhz, thank you05:14
makoKamion: cool05:14
MarioMeyerit's a new member..05:14
makoalright then05:14
makoi should find my way to work05:14
Seveashave fun05:14
MarioMeyerhe says he uses kubuntu and havend seen any kubuntu work in the brazillian group05:15
jsgotangcook good night i gotta sleep05:15
raphinkdon't get lost mako 05:15
raphink;)05:15
makoi might as well have lunch first05:15
raphink"night jsgotangco 05:15
makoone of those days :)05:15
Seveassee you all in 2 weeks05:15
MarioMeyeri just thought i should say something before he buys it05:15
raphinkhehe05:15
jsgotangcoerrr what time?05:15
Seveasjan 2405:15
makolets do it a bit later05:15
KamionRiddell: can I get you to discuss this with MarioMeyer offline, and pass him on to silbs or whoever if need be?05:15
RiddellMarioMeyer: sounds great but please send him my way, jriddell@ubuntu.com or IRC05:15
makowe've beenhaviing morning meetings 05:15
RiddellKamion: yep05:15
Seveasmako, propose a time :)05:15
mako21UTC?05:15
makois that as late as we can go for the UKer's?05:16
makooh wait05:16
Seveas21UTC is fine to me, that's 21:00 UK05:16
makothe GPLv3 meetiing is that day05:16
makolet me looks05:16
Seveasah05:16
MarioMeyerok Kamion 05:16
makono it's not05:16
MarioMeyerok Riddell 05:16
Seveasso, 24 jan 21:00 UTC?05:16
makothat time should be fine05:16
makoyes05:16
SeveasOK, then goodbye all :)05:16
raphinkbye Seveas 05:17
Kamionthat's fine05:17
Kamionsee you next fortnight05:17
Madpilotlater, all05:18
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bshumategood day all!05:18
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dholbachlater05:18
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raphink:s05:21
raphinkit just finished :s05:21
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