[05:01] <OgMaciel> Seveas, ping
[05:29] <anandaputra> Halloo.. is this room loged?
[05:29] <jsgotangco> yes
[05:30] <anandaputra> I just want to say that I can't join the meeting today (tonite)..
[05:30] <jsgotangco> did you list yourself in the wiki?
[05:30] <anandaputra> 15:00 UTC is 10:00 PM in Jakarta, Indonesia..
[05:31] <anandaputra> yes i am..
[05:31] <anandaputra> but unfortunately i couldn't join the meeting.. it will be at nite in Jakarta..
[05:32] <anandaputra> and i have no internet connection tonite.. :(
[05:33] <jsgotangco> ahh too bad just in case i'm at the meeting i'll inform the guys then
[05:34] <anandaputra> nice.. thank you jerome.. :)
[12:21] <raphink> hi Simira 
[12:21] <Simira> hello
[12:24] <sivang> meeting soon?
[12:24] <Seveas> 3.5 hours
[12:24] <sivang> CC ?
[12:25] <Seveas> yep
[12:26] <Simira> oh, no
[12:27] <raphink> :)
[12:27] <Simira> I'll just make a part of it, going to the dentist at 17(16 utc)
[12:28] <raphink> or quite alphabetically
[03:43] <Simira> I'm not gonna live through this meeting. I'm so tired I'll drop off any time
[03:45] <Seveas> Simira, it did not even start yet :)
[03:46] <jsgotangco> :D
[03:46] <jsgotangco> hi mako 
[03:47] <mhz> jsgotangco: hi, there
[03:47] <jsgotangco> lo mhz 
[03:47] <mhz> I must leave now, to the Pharmacy and so, I won't be able to get back before meeting. Family need :(
[03:48] <mhz> jsgotangco: Yagisan: sorry
[03:48] <jsgotangco> no worries
[03:48] <Yagisan> mhz: no need to be sorry
[03:48] <mhz> I'll do my best to get back ASAP
[03:49] <raphink> hi there
[03:50] <sivang> hi all
[03:54] <mako> greetings 
[03:55] <Simira> mako :)
[03:55] <jsgotangco> yo
[03:55] <raphink> :)
[03:55] <ubuntuser_ba> Hi!
[03:55] <lucasd> aloha
[03:56] <Madpilot> morning everyone
[03:56] <twilight> hi all
[03:57] <mako> ergh
[03:57] <mako> i just spilled coffee
[03:57] <mako> the second time in 10 minutes
[03:57] <jsgotangco> classic mako!
[03:57] <Madpilot> missed the keyboard, I hope? :P
[03:58] <ealden> hi all
[03:59] <lguerra> hi all
[03:59] <mako> yeah
[04:00] <mako> just the carpet :)
[04:00] <dholbach> hello
[04:00] <ubuntuser_ba> no problem.. :)
[04:00] <mhz> jsgotangco: lguerra is a colombian 'ubuntero' and has been one of the very few active and willing to help guys in #edubuntu-es
[04:00] <Seveas> * mako has quit (Read error: Keyboard reset by coffee)
[04:02] <Seveas> bye
[04:02] <jsgotangco> ahhh
[04:02] <ealden> bye mhz 
[04:03] <ubuntuser_ba> hi OgMaciel 
[04:03] <OgMaciel> [morning/afternoon/evening]  all
[04:03] <ubuntuser_ba> ;)
[04:03] <OgMaciel> ubuntuser_ba hey dude
[04:04] <OgMaciel> jsgotangco how are ya?
[04:04] <ubuntuser_ba> "tranquillo"
[04:04] <OgMaciel> ubuntuser_ba yup...  ;)
[04:04] <Seveas> 16:04 here
[04:04] <Seveas> mako, poke
[04:04] <twilight> ubuntuser_ba, italian?
[04:04] <jsgotangco> pretty good
[04:04] <raphink> same here :)
[04:04] <Seveas> is the rest of the CC around?
[04:04] <OgMaciel> Seveas hey bud... long time don't see ya
[04:04] <raphink> who is that for Treenaks ?
[04:04] <ubuntuser_ba> Brazilian
[04:05] <Kamion> hi
[04:05] <byteunix> hi
[04:05] <ealden> lol
[04:05] <Treenaks> 16:04 <      Seveas> is the rest of the CC around?
[04:05] <mako> Seveas: i've been here the whole time
[04:05] <ubuntuser_ba> twilight, and you?
[04:05] <Seveas> mako, but we need at least 2 more CC members for quorum ;)
[04:05] <twilight> ubuntuser_ba, the word "tranquillo" is italan, too..I'm italian :) sorry
[04:05] <lucasd> OgMaciel, hi there.. :)
[04:05] <twilight> *italian
[04:05] <mako> well, quit poking me..  i'm the one hwo actually showed up :)
[04:06] <OgMaciel> lucasd sup bud?
[04:06] <ubuntuser_ba> twilight, i like italian words... capisci?
[04:06] <ubuntuser_ba> ;)
[04:06] <Simira> elmo was just alive om #-devel
[04:06] <twilight> ubuntuser_ba, capisco :)
[04:06] <ogra_ibook> Kamion was seen today as well already ...
[04:06] <byteunix> I like girl italian :), capisci ;) ubuntuser_ba
[04:06] <lucasd> OgMaciel, i'll grab my lunch and will be right back
[04:06] <Kamion> ogra_ibook: dude I said "hi" just up above
[04:06] <Kamion> lay off :)
[04:06] <ogra_ibook> oops
[04:06] <Seveas> mako, hehe, I just hoped you knew where the rest is
[04:06] <OgMaciel> lucads k
[04:07] <Seveas> Kamion, poke
[04:10] <Kamion> ok, elmo's in channel so I imagine he'll pop up when something happens
[04:10] <Kamion> let's start
[04:10] <Kamion> we have no locoteam business this meeting
[04:10] <Kamion> and a bunch of member candidates
[04:10] <Seveas> and some other business
[04:11] <MarioMeyer> :)
[04:11] <Seveas> ah, no ther business
[04:11] <Kamion> none on the agenda
[04:11] <Kamion> AnandaPutra: here?
[04:11] <Kamion> FRNSantos: here?
[04:11] <Kamion> LorenzoSfarra: here?
[04:11] <ubuntuser_ba> yes, I am FRNSantos
[04:11] <twilight> yes
[04:11] <twilight> <- LorenzoSfarra
[04:11] <Seveas> ubuntuser_ba, hi there
[04:11] <mako> twilight: ok.. hold on.. lets deal with ubuntuser_ba  first
[04:12] <ubuntuser_ba> ok
[04:12] <Seveas> ubuntuser_ba, give us the 3-liner please :)
[04:12] <twilight> mako, no problem
[04:12] <ubuntuser_ba> My name is Fabio Nogueira, a 30 year-old Brazilian living in Salvador, Bahia.  I currently work for the State Justice Court as a computer technician and as an assistant to the system administrator, mostly handling the support of users and hardware.
[04:12] <Seveas> that's line 1 :)
[04:12] <raphink> ;)
[04:12] <ubuntuser_ba> My relationship with Linux started with a few Live CDs (Kurumin, Kalango, etc), eventually moving through Fedora and Mandrake.  It was only after I tried Ubuntu that I first experienced true nirvana!
[04:13] <OgMaciel> hehe
[04:13] <ubuntuser_ba> This feeling has stayed with me now... the entire "Ubuntu way of life" appeals to me and I want to share it with the whole world.  I often find myself "spreading the word" at every place I go to... supermarkets, butcher shop, etc..
[04:13] <ubuntuser_ba> and...
[04:13] <ubuntuser_ba> I strongly believe that I'm ready and willing to take the responsibility that comes with being part of the Ubuntu Family!
[04:14] <OgMaciel> Kamion hehehe
[04:14] <raphink> :)
[04:14] <jsgotangco> heh
[04:14] <MarioMeyer> :P
[04:14] <Kamion> how many are there on the pt_BR translation team now?
[04:14] <mako> OgMaciel: thanks for the testimonial
[04:14] <mako> it's helpful
[04:14] <OgMaciel> here
[04:14] <OgMaciel> mako my pleasure to endorse him
[04:14] <MarioMeyer> about 62, Kamion 
[04:14] <mako> wow
[04:14] <lucasd> OgMaciel, back :)
[04:15] <Seveas> that's... a LOT
[04:15] <jsgotangco> wow
[04:15] <Kamion> *62*?
[04:15] <OgMaciel> and many more awaiting approval
[04:15] <Seveas> how many active members?
[04:15] <MarioMeyer> but not all active
[04:15] <Madpilot> they're busy down in BR!
[04:15] <OgMaciel> Seveas 62
[04:15] <Kamion> how do you coordinate that many people?
[04:15] <Seveas> are they alla ctively translating?
[04:15] <OgMaciel> Kamion we sometimes hold "sweepstakes"... hehehe
[04:15] <MarioMeyer> we are planing some "application" process
[04:15] <MarioMeyer> like tutoring the new ones..
[04:16] <Kamion> I suppose translation work divides up easily enough, but you still have to ensure consistency of vocabulary and stuff
[04:16] <OgMaciel> Seveas somewhat
[04:16] <mako> MarioMeyer: lightweight with support for those that need it or want it is always good
[04:16] <MarioMeyer> i say we have about 10 to 15 active translators
[04:16] <OgMaciel> Kamion absolutely
[04:16] <Seveas> Kamion, exactly, we kicked out lots of people in -nl that made crap translations
[04:16] <ubuntuser_ba> and bad translations....
[04:17] <Treenaks> and just plain wrong translations
[04:17] <MarioMeyer> yeah.. ubuntuser_ba has been doing a LOT of revisions of bad translations
[04:17] <MarioMeyer> he has made rosetta all blue.. :P
[04:17] <Seveas> haha
[04:17] <OgMaciel> ubuntuser_ba has actually won a sweepstake I sponsored for translators... he's scored the highest karma
[04:18] <ubuntuser_ba> blue translations is necessary
[04:18] <mako> killer :)
[04:18] <OgMaciel> he won an upcoming Ubuntu book whicj I'll be mailing to him soon
[04:18] <mako> very excellent
[04:18] <raphink> oo nice :)
[04:18] <mako> ubuntuser_ba: how long have you been involved?
[04:18] <OgMaciel> yup... he seems to have no life... hehehe
[04:18] <ubuntuser_ba> with translations or Ubuntu?
[04:19] <OgMaciel> Kamion we've been busy spreading the word... ;)
[04:19] <MarioMeyer> Kamion, we've been working a lot on that
[04:19] <OgMaciel> our wiki has been getting bigger too, thanks to people like ubuntuser_ba and lucasd
[04:20] <Kamion> well, I'm happy with ubuntuser_ba for membership; you're clearly working hard and it's a strong community
[04:20] <OgMaciel> 2 workhorses of the team
[04:20] <Kamion> elmo: ?
[04:20] <mako> absolutely
[04:20] <ubuntuser_ba> Kamion, thanks
[04:20] <Seveas> LorenzoSfarra, keep your 3-liner nearby, you're up soon
[04:21] <elmo> ack
[04:21] <OgMaciel> ubuntuser_ba congrats my friend!!!  =)
[04:21] <MarioMeyer> congrats, ubuntuser_ba :P
[04:21] <Seveas> welcome!
[04:21] <ubuntuser_ba> thank you
[04:21] <twilight> Seveas, ok..just tell me when I have to past them. (congrats ubuntuser_ba :) )
[04:21] <lucasd> ubuntulog, congrats.. :)
[04:21] <ubuntuser_ba> I am very happy now..
[04:21] <Seveas> twilight, about now would be ok :)
[04:21] <Seveas> ubuntuser_ba, you deserved it, keep up the good work
[04:22] <mako> ubuntuser_ba: your wikipage was excellent as well
[04:22] <twilight> Pages: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LorenzoSfarra - https://launchpad.net/people/lorenzosfarra
[04:22] <OgMaciel> Seveas I'll make sure he does  ;)
[04:22] <twilight> I'm 20 years old Italian guy. I'm student of Computer Science Department of L'Aquila University(Ita). I'm LocoTeam member of Ubuntu Italian Community, Member of Ubuntu Italian Translators, Member of Italian Documentation's group, Member of Italian Forum's group, Member of Italian Web's group and Member of Ubuntu Italian Planet.
[04:22] <mako> good combination of testimonials, description, and evidence of contributions
[04:22] <ubuntuser_ba> mako, thanks!
[04:22] <twilight> With some friends, I've carry out a reorganization of Ubuntu Italian Community. I'm very interested in programming, expecially with python. In python, I've written a simple program to move Italian Page from wiki.ubuntu.com to our (Italian) wiki.ubuntu-it.org.
[04:23] <Kamion> 07:53 <mdke> LorenzoSfarra (twilight) - he's the 4th member of the Italian locoteam group, and the only one not a member yet. he contributes heavily to translation work, on the italian wiki, he edits the main italian website and is a forum moderator. He has given a lot of time to the project for many months now, and is a really vital part of our team.
[04:23] <Kamion> (from /msg earlier today)
[04:23] <Seveas> mako, the NewMemberHowto seems to work, more of the people to show up this week show excellent pages :)
[04:24] <mako> excellent
[04:24] <Seveas> hmm, quite a good testimonial from mdke, that's not bad :)
[04:24] <mako> yes, also a very good page
[04:24] <Kamion> Italian Planet not quite so active but still not doing too bad
[04:24] <twilight> thank you mako
[04:24] <mako> quite a lot of text
[04:25] <twilight> Kamion, planet it's a new project..so it's in "development":)
[04:25] <jsgotangco> just like en planet lol
[04:25] <twilight> I believe that it will be more active soon
[04:25] <Kamion> it's only about as active as the English one. :-)
[04:25] <mako> hey.. i post something on planet.u.o every day :)
[04:26] <Kamion> same as above really, I'm happy, especially with mdke's testimonial
[04:26] <Kamion> brb, coffee underflow
[04:26] <Seveas> lol
[04:26] <Seveas> "coffee underflow" :)
[04:26] <mako> twilight: very excellent document of very excellent contributioons
[04:26] <mako> i'm thrilled to have you on board
[04:27] <Seveas> the italian team should be proud of itself :)
[04:27] <twilight> thank you very much
[04:27] <raphink> :)
[04:28] <mako> elmo: ?
[04:28] <elmo> ack
[04:28] <Seveas> now we wait for the coffee :)
[04:28] <mako> killer
[04:28] <mako> we can keep things moving.. kamion will catch up
[04:28] <Seveas> ok
[04:28] <mako> lucasd: go ahead
[04:29] <lucasd> My name is Lucas. I live in Maranho/Brazil. I've ever been a big fan of free software and I wanted to actually live it. So I started using Linux. Before Ubuntu, I have already used Slackware, Red Hat and Debian, and then, 6 months ago, I met Ubuntu.
[04:29] <lucasd> As an engaged community person, I did a lot of things I could to Ubuntu. For instance, I've been a constant helper at IRC and at Mailing lists, and tried to help with tasks related to our community. Also, I've translated a lot of packages to my native language at Rosetta.
[04:29] <lucasd> In the future, I wanna dedicate more of my time to Ubuntu, start to work with things I haven't helped at all. As an Ubuntu official member, I'll have more support  to organize and participate of events about Ubuntu, help with Brazil' regional sub-teams. And, of course, spread Ubuntu everywhere I can.
[04:29] <Seveas> twilight, please hang around, kamion still has to vote and will do that soon
[04:29] <ogra_ibook> Seveas, he did
[04:30] <ogra_ibook> Seveas, "Kamion same as above really, I'm happy, especially with mdke's testimonial"
[04:30] <Seveas> ah ok
[04:30] <Seveas> in that case: welcome aboard twilight ! congratulations!
[04:30] <twilight> Thanks all
[04:30] <Kamion> back
[04:30] <dholbach> congratulations! :)
[04:30] <MarioMeyer> congrats twilight 
[04:30] <ubuntuser_ba> Congratulations twilight 
[04:30] <ogra_ibook> congrats
[04:31] <Seveas> lucas, what is STOPy?
[04:31] <jsgotangco> no ponies as throphies though
[04:31] <lucas> Seveas: lucasd != lucas
[04:31] <ubuntuser_ba> congratulazioni, twilight 
[04:31] <raphink> ;)
[04:31] <Seveas> lucasd, what is STOPy?
[04:31] <lucasd> Seveas, it's a game where a word is choosen and everybody who is playing has to give words starting with that word
[04:31] <Seveas> one of you, change your nickname :p
[04:31] <lucas> (but I expected to be highlighted quite a lot today ;p)
[04:32] <lucasd> so.. the STOPy is a game written in Python using GTK that simulates this game
[04:32] <twilight> ubuntuser_ba, grazie mille! and congratulations for your italian :)
[04:32] <lucasd> and, it uses the IRC to the communication
[04:32] <ogra_ibook> hmm, sounds intresting for edubuntu :)
[04:32] <MarioMeyer> ogra_ibook, brazillians actually play that a lot in schools
[04:33] <ogra_ibook> cool !
[04:33] <MarioMeyer> instead of watching the classes.. lol
[04:33] <Seveas> hehe
[04:33] <OgMaciel> hehe
[04:33] <ubuntuser_ba> in out of school too.. ;)
[04:33] <Seveas> lucasd, you should either avoid ogra the coming weeks or get that game into Ubuntu ;)
[04:33] <ogra_ibook> lol
[04:33] <OgMaciel> lucasd has, as they say in the street, some "mad programming skillz"  ;)
[04:34] <MarioMeyer> he tought me everything i know about PyGTK
[04:34] <lucasd> Seveas, we have a plan to include this in Ubuntu, but the project not quite mature yet
[04:34] <MarioMeyer> lol
[04:34] <lucasd> hehe
[04:34] <Seveas> lucasd, then now you have one more reason to complete it
[04:34] <ubuntuser_ba> hehehehe
[04:34] <ogra_ibook> yeah
[04:34] <lucasd> for sure..
[04:34] <MarioMeyer> :P
[04:34] <mako> the translations work looks very good
[04:35] <Seveas> yup
[04:35] <mako> as does the other loco team work
[04:35] <ubuntuser_ba> Ubuntu here in Brazil is very serious uf us.. ;)
[04:35] <Seveas> and the Brazil team is rocking quite hard
[04:35] <ubuntuser_ba> to us..
[04:35] <MarioMeyer> i think, together with ubuntuser_ba, lucasd  is the "real active translation team"
[04:35] <OgMaciel> Seveas right on!
[04:35] <OgMaciel> MarioMeyer agreed!
[04:36] <mako> OgMaciel, MarioMeyer: your feedback is helpful
[04:36] <Seveas> wb mhz 
[04:36] <mhz> ;)
[04:36] <MarioMeyer> :P
[04:36] <Kamion> I hope we'll be seeing a few more .br people move into at least MOTU, with this number of people interested
[04:36] <mako> fine even
[04:36] <OgMaciel> mako thanks
[04:36] <Kamion> yeah, also fine with lucasd
[04:36] <Seveas> lucasd, so join the MOTU :)
[04:36] <elmo> ack
[04:36] <OgMaciel> Kamion it is one of my resolutions for 2006!  ;)
[04:37] <MarioMeyer> i'll start packaging soon
[04:37] <ogra_ibook> lucasd, welcome aboard
[04:37] <Seveas> lucasd, Congrats!
[04:37] <OgMaciel> lucasd congrats!
[04:37] <lucasd> thanks very much :)
[04:37] <jsgotangco> congratulations
[04:37] <MarioMeyer> congrats lucasd 
[04:37] <lucasd> all of you =] 
[04:37] <Seveas> ubuntu-br++ :)
[04:37] <raphink> :)
[04:37] <ubuntuser_ba> "Parabns"  Lucas
[04:37] <mako> lets move on
[04:37] <Seveas> Brian Burger / Madpilot 
[04:37] <mako> Madpilot
[04:37] <OgMaciel> jsgotangco hehehe
[04:37] <Madpilot> I'm here, have caffeine even... :P
[04:38] <ubuntuser_ba> jsgotangco, you are welcome!
[04:38] <OgMaciel> jsgotangco we can always use help
[04:38] <MarioMeyer> jsgotangco, u'll be welcome here :P
[04:38] <Madpilot> Madpilot's Obligatory Three-Liner... Ubuntu wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Madpilot LP: https://launchpad.net/people/yh728
[04:38] <Seveas> Madpilot cool, then give us the 3-liner :)
[04:38] <Madpilot> My name is Brian Burger. I've been using Linux only since May/05, and contributing to the Ubuntu project nearly as long, mostly on the wiki and DocTeam projects - I can't program, but I *can* proofread, edit and document. I've helped rewrite a couple of sections of the Desktop Guide, including the whole CD burning section. I'm also involved in the Canadian LoCo Team & Marketing.
[04:38] <Madpilot> I try to provide intelligent feedback from a new-to-Linux-but-learning-fast perspective, and in between that there's always typos on the wiki to hunt down and kill!
[04:38] <dholbach> Madpilot: so you're responsible for those 24679246 wiki mails i get from you per week? :)
[04:38] <Seveas> Madpilot is also quite active on IRC
[04:38] <Seveas> active and helpful even :)
[04:39] <jsgotangco> no that's the other Burger heh
[04:39] <Madpilot> hmm, yeah, I left the IRC stuff out of the three liner, didn't I?
[04:39] <mako> OgMaciel: thanks for showing up
[04:39] <ubuntuser_ba> Thansk OgMaciel 
[04:39] <OgMaciel> mako always a pleasurew
[04:39] <ubuntuser_ba> *thanks
[04:39] <Seveas> Madpilot, how active are you on the forums?
[04:39] <Madpilot> dholbach: that's probably my younger brother, Corey/Burgundavia - he's noisier that me...
[04:39] <lucasd> OgMaciel, thanks very much :)
[04:39] <raphink> bye OgMaciel 
[04:39] <OgMaciel> later guys...
[04:39] <Madpilot> Seveas: middling active, mostly on the Gnome Desktop & Absolute Beginners sections
[04:40] <dholbach> Madpilot: you're quite active too :)
[04:40] <mako> is there anyone from the docteam with a testimonial?
[04:40] <jsgotangco> +1 he's been very active in doc/wiki
[04:40] <Seveas> we need more forum - CC meeting interaction, it would help if you join the CC meetings more often when there are forum issues so you can feed them back there
[04:40] <mhz> As a Moin fan, I can tell Madpilot has been doing a really awsome work on wiki keeping
[04:40] <Kamion> the wiki being what it is, it's hard to tell exactly which parts of that are your writing style, but I like it anyway
[04:40] <jsgotangco> he may not be the greatest docbook author out there, but he does help everyday
[04:40] <Kamion> (-> Madpilot)
[04:40] <Seveas> jsgotangco, nice
[04:41] <jsgotangco> another Burger won't hurt
[04:41] <jsgotangco> :D
[04:41] <Madpilot> jsgotangco: :P
[04:41] <raphink> lol
[04:41] <jsgotangco> dholbach, make that x2 of the mails we receive then
[04:41] <ogra_ibook> heh
[04:42] <dholbach> :)
[04:42] <mako> jsgotangco: nepotism has no place in our project
[04:42] <jsgotangco> lol
[04:43] <Seveas> hmm
[04:43] <Kamion> well, the things I've been browsing through on the wiki for five minutes look pretty good
[04:44] <mako> ditto
[04:44] <Kamion> and I'm definitely keen to encourage people who are relatively new to free software and are writing documentation
[04:44] <mhz> I think Madpilot has been very efficient
[04:44] <jsgotangco> oh he's been here for a very long time
[04:44] <mako> i also appreciate the irc support work althought that's harder for me to gugage
[04:44] <jsgotangco> he's been very very visible as well
[04:44] <Kamion> since the programmers here will know that it's very very hard to try to think yourself back to the point where you *didn't* understand things when writing documentation
[04:44] <Seveas> mako, he's one of the good guys in #ubuntu 
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[04:45] <elmo> ack
[04:45] <jsgotangco> weeee
[04:45] <mako> is manu around?
[04:46] <Kamion> Seveas: I certainly wouldn't object if he's willing
[04:46] <elmo> is the stuff on http://www.manucornet.net/ubuntu/ getting integrated into gnome?
[04:46] <ogra_ibook> doesnt look like
[04:46] <mako> alright
[04:46] <ogra_ibook> elmo, yup
[04:46] <Kamion> Madpilot: could you please visit https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntumembers/+join to propose yourself for membership of the relevant team?
[04:46] <mako> nice hackergotchi picture
[04:46] <Seveas> lllmanulll
[04:46] <Madpilot> Seveas: let me know, I'm willing to op if needed...
[04:46] <mako> elmo: no idea
[04:46] <Madpilot> Kamion: doing that right now
[04:47] <Seveas> Madpilot, when needed, I'll poke :)
[04:47] <mako> alright...
[04:47] <mako> azeem is next?
[04:47] <ogra_ibook> elmo, its all in already ...
[04:47] <Kamion> Madpilot: thanks
[04:47] <dholbach> lllmanulll can't be here - did the meeting time change?
[04:47] <Seveas> no
[04:47] <Madpilot> Kamion: done
[04:47] <mako> i feel like i've approved azeem as a member like 3 times
[04:47] <elmo> ogra: sweet
[04:47] <Seveas> there was an error at the wiki though
[04:48] <raphink> dholbach: yes a few weeks ago
[04:48] <mako> :)
[04:48] <Kamion> I thought we'd approved azeem before, but maybe it was only 2/4
[04:48] <azeem> Kamion: one time, we timed out
[04:48] <azeem> the other time, I was /away
[04:48] <dholbach> that's at least, what he said. If he'd been here, I'd been happy to give a testimonial.
[04:48] <azeem> I never got to even paste my 3-liner
[04:48] <mako> azeem: we can make it official then
[04:48] <Seveas> azeem, ah right, you were ok with postponing
[04:48] <mako> azeem: well hurry up :)
[04:48] <Seveas> azeem, well, give us the 3-lineer now then :)
[04:48] <Kamion> oh, you were at a christmas party last time
[04:48] <azeem> I am Michael Banck, a 28 year old chemistry PhD student from Munich, Germany.  My wiki page is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MichaelBanck and my LaunchPad page at https://launchpad.net/people/mbanck
[04:49] <azeem> I have been using GNU/Linux for almost ten years and Ubuntu for about one year now (and maintain my parent's desktop since October 2004).  I am a Debian Developer as well. I do various things for Debian but plan to do mainly scientific/chemistry related work for Ubuntu as part of MOTUScience.
[04:49] <azeem> I have done so for some chemistry packages for a while now, by merging back Ubuntu changes to Debian and making sure the Debian packages build fine on Ubuntu as well. I also cared for multisync in Ubuntu in the past and recently joined lifeless and ajmitch for a more ambitious opensync/multisync effort for Ubuntu/Debian.
[04:49] <azeem> there.
[04:49] <elmo> I object
[04:49] <Seveas> http://www.manucornet.net/ubuntu/JPEG/xmms.png <-- the jdub icon!
[04:49] <elmo> his name is not Michael Banck, it's Ben Affleck
[04:49] <azeem> elmo: figures
[04:49] <ogra_ibook> lol
[04:49] <jsgotangco> lol
[04:49] <dholbach> haha :)
[04:49] <ogra_ibook> elmo, old one :)
[04:49] <azeem> elmo: I prefer to be called Josh Hartnett these days
[04:49] <azeem> anyway
[04:50] <dholbach> Let's call him Scarlett then.
[04:50] <sivang> elmo: LOL
[04:50] <ubuntuser_ba> Friends... i have to go..
[04:50] <Seveas> ubuntuser_ba, bye
[04:50] <mako> but is happy to have ben affleck on board
[04:50] <ubuntuser_ba> I'm hungry
[04:50] <raphink> ciao ubuntuser_ba 
[04:50] <jsgotangco> another celebrity won't hurt eh
[04:50] <sistpoty> if I could vote: make azeem a motu tonight ;)
[04:50] <ubuntuser_ba> [] 's
[04:51] <ubuntuser_ba> Thank you... see u soon
[04:51] <ogra_ibook> sistpoty++
[04:51] <sivang> and what sistpoty said
[04:51] <elmo> (more seriously) happy to ack azeem
[04:51] <Seveas> Kamion, do you want Josh Hartnett on board?
[04:51] <Seveas> if so, then all of his personalities are welcome :)
[04:51] <sivang> who's Josh Hartnett ?
[04:51] <Kamion> yeah, I'm happy with azeem obviously, he's been low-level-around in Ubuntu since pre-warty and I'm glad he's wanting to contribute to MOTU now
[04:52] <Seveas> cool!
[04:52] <mako> excellent
[04:52] <Seveas> muchos welcome, azeem!
[04:52] <azeem> thanks
[04:52] <Kamion> (and he's clearly one of the good guys)
[04:52] <ogra_ibook> welcome azeem !!
[04:52] <lucasd> azeem, congrats! :)
[04:52] <sistpoty> congrats azeem
[04:52] <mhz> azeem: congrats
[04:52] <mako> i think RaphaelPinson has the first wiki page that has, and needs, a table of contents
[04:52] <raphink> I'm Raphal Pinson, a 23 years old french guy. (WikiPage : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaphaelPinson ; LP Profile : http://launchpad.net/people/raphink ). After having used GNU/Linux for about 3 years (mostly Mandrake and Debian), I tried Ubuntu in January 2005, but definitely switched to it in October.
[04:52] <MarioMeyer> congrats azeem 
[04:52] <raphink> I've been involved in Ubuntu as a MOTU Helpful for more than 2 months, uploading packages to REVU, merging packages and reviewing packages on REVU. I've got 8 packages in Dapper through REVU. I also work on improving the MOTU documentation on the wiki, and help on IRC channels. I'm admin on #kubuntu-fr and #kubuntu-it. I'm part of the MOTU-Reviewers, Ubuntu French Translators and Kubuntu teams on LP.
[04:52] <raphink> I share the Ubuntu spirit and distro around me all the time ;) I'd like to become a MOTU to make more helpful contributions to Ubuntu, and just to be a member to feel more involved in the community :)
[04:52] <raphink> :)
[04:53] <Kamion> ok, see you in ten minutes when I've read that wiki page
[04:53] <jsgotangco> lol
[04:53] <Seveas> since the previous meeting, I've seen raphink being active a lot
[04:53] <dholbach> raphink ROCKs!
[04:53] <ogra_ibook> i'm astonished it took you this long to apply for member :)
[04:53] <raphink> lol
[04:53] <sistpoty> from raphink's work on motu-side, it's quite a shame he isn't even a member yet
[04:53] <Kamion> ichthux> I am INEXORABLY reminded of Jesux
[04:53] <Kamion> sorry :)
[04:53] <raphink> Kamion: argh no ;)
[04:53] <raphink> sistpoty: couldn't apply before, hadn't been involved long enough ;)
[04:54] <mako> Kamion: hm...
[04:54] <Riddell> raphink has done some great KDE MOTU work including reviewing others packages (much needed) so I fully support his membership
[04:54] <sistpoty> raphink: that was meant as praise ;)
[04:54] <raphink> ;)
[04:55] <Seveas> raphink, please review my package, i need one more advocate :)
[04:55] <raphink> Seveas: can't advocate yet I'm afraid ;)
[04:55] <Riddell> Seveas: he can't advocate yet, not a MOTU
[04:55] <dholbach> raphink didn't need to be told what to do, he just was there and started working in the team. I'm completely happy with him as a member (and MOTU soon) too.
[04:56] <Seveas> raphink, Riddell that'll change pretty soon I guess ;)
[04:56] <Kamion> certainly more Kubuntu-based MOTU work seems like a good thing; I haven't followed up all the links to packages but if Riddell's happy with him on that front then that's good enough for me
[04:56] <raphink> :)
[04:57] <ogra_ibook> i'm always impressed how he jumps in to help others 
[04:57] <mako> sounds great
[04:57] <elmo> I'm happy with raphink for membershipbased on what I've seen of his packaging
[04:57] <raphink> :D
[04:58] <Kamion> raphink: could you please visit https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntumembers/+join to propose yourself for membership of the relevant team?
[04:58] <mako> patrick davies?
[04:59] <raphink> sure :)
[04:59] <raphink> with pleasure :)
[04:59] <Seveas> raphink, welcome on board :)
[04:59] <raphink> thank you guys :)
[04:59] <raphink> ty Seveas :)
[04:59] <lucasd> raphink, congratis! :] 
[04:59] <lucasd> *congrats
[04:59] <MarioMeyer> congrats raphink 
[04:59] <raphink> I'm pleased to be part of such a great community :)
[04:59] <sistpoty> congrats raphink
[04:59] <dholbach> raphink: i'm glad you're in the team. :-)
[04:59] <ogra_ibook> we are happy to have you around
[04:59] <Kamion> Brian Shumate?
[04:59] <raphink> :)
[04:59] <jsgotangco> bshumate, ping
[04:59] <bshumate> hi
[05:00] <Kamion> I have a testimonial for Brian from mdke, if he's here
[05:00] <bshumate> Greetings everyone! My name is Brian Shumate; I'm a 32 year-old IT guy, with about two decades of computing experience, and half of that in a professional capacity as a IT Consultant, System Administrator, and Technologist. 
[05:00] <bshumate> I am also an Artist, a father of 2 wonderful children, and the husband of a charming wife.  I've used GNU/Linux now for about twelve years now, and Ubuntu is what prompted me to show my appreciation by giving back to the FLOSS world! :-)
[05:00] <bshumate> In the last two months+ I have been active almost exclusively in the Documentation Team, having contributed eight patches, and authored five Wiki pages.  I've provided some help in the #ubuntu IRC channel for the past two months as well. I am also in the final stages of preparing an Art Project which I sincerely hope will garner Ubuntu plenty of positive free press in the coming months! 
[05:00] <mhz> raphink: yahoo!
[05:00] <raphink> mhz: :)
[05:00] <bshumate> In the future, I plan to author more Wiki pages, and guides for those new to Ubuntu, and assist the Documentation Team in any capacity required. I hope to also conclude the writing of an Ubuntu-related book that I have in progress at present. ;-) 
[05:01] <Kamion> 07:54 <mdke> BrianShumate (bshumate) - has been contributing regularly to the documentation team for the last couple of months and in that time has produced more documentation than anyone else. He has contributed several passages to the serverguide for dapper, and several extremely high class wiki pages, mainly about security. He is a incredibly valuable member of the doc team.
[05:01] <Seveas> security documentation++
[05:01] <mako> nice
[05:01] <jsgotangco> OpenSSL wiki page
[05:02] <Madpilot> bshumate's wiki pages are excellent - the Bastille Linux one & Strong Passwords ones especially.
[05:02] <Seveas> i'm browsing through a few of them, they are great
[05:02] <mako> excellent work
[05:02] <mako> and mdke's recommendation is a strong point as well
[05:03] <Seveas> AllowUsers jhendrix svaughan
[05:03] <Seveas> DenyUsers wgates sballmer
[05:03] <Seveas> LOL!
[05:04] <bshumate> Seveas: ;-)
[05:04] <Kamion> bshumate: in the modern world you probably want PubkeyAuthentication rather than RSAAuthentication - the latter's protocol 1 only
[05:04] <Kamion> (reading the server guide)
[05:05] <bshumate> Kamion: good point there! I'll adjust it.
[05:05] <sivang> Seveas: ubotu ?
[05:05] <Seveas> sivang, the resident cluebot in #ubuntu
[05:05] <sivang> Seveas: ah nice
[05:05] <Kamion> I disagree with you about PermitRootLogin, but that's a long-standing argument we certainly aren't going to resolve here. :)
[05:06] <bshumate> Kamion: i personally use "without-password" ;-)
[05:06] <Kamion> also X11Forwarding is not a risk to the server, it's a risk to the client
[05:06] <ogra_ibook> and disabling it would break ltsp :)
[05:07] <Kamion> ogra_ibook: nobody's talking about the defaults
[05:07] <ogra_ibook> i know
[05:07] <Kamion> anyway, while I have some quibbles with the details, on the whole it's very clear and good documentation
[05:08] <sivang> Kamion: how so?
[05:08] <Kamion> so yeah, I'm fine with bshumate for membership based on what I'm seeing. More of the same would rock. :-)
[05:08] <Kamion> sivang: aboe
[05:08] <Kamion> above
[05:08] <sivang> eh
[05:08] <mako> same from me
[05:08] <mako> the docs i've looked through look great
[05:08] <Kamion> bshumate: oh, also, disabling password prompts can also involve disabling keyboard-interactive auth
[05:08] <Seveas> great documentation
[05:08] <mhz> Madpilot: so, I never got the part were you were accepted but ogra told me you were, so Congrats!!!
[05:08] <Kamion> (ChallengeResponseAuthentication no)
[05:09] <Madpilot> mhz: thanks!
[05:09] <bshumate> Kamion: noted. I'll spruce it up accordingly. ;-)
[05:09] <Kamion> bshumate: yeah, without-password is pretty reasonable and useful since you can configure sshd to give you an audit trail of the public key used to log in as root
[05:10] <Kamion> which can be useful on boxes with multiple admins
[05:10] <mako> elmo: ?
[05:10] <Kamion> (though you can do similar things with sudo of course)
[05:10] <elmo> ack
[05:10] <mako> that's it for my list
[05:10] <Seveas> ok, cool
[05:10] <Seveas> welcome aboard bshumate!
[05:10] <mako> anyone else here have other business for the council?
[05:10] <jsgotangco> weeee
[05:10] <lucasd> bshumate, congratulations! :)
[05:11] <Seveas> (and please keep on writing such good documentation)
[05:11] <bshumate> Thanks everyone!
[05:11] <mako> speak now or hold your peace for 2 weeks
[05:11] <ogra_ibook> congrats bshumate 
[05:11] <MarioMeyer> congrats bshumate 
[05:11] <twilight> bshumate, congratulations!
[05:11] <Kamion> bshumate: thanks!
[05:11] <mako> going once!
[05:11] <MarioMeyer> meeting ending early :P
[05:11] <mako> going twice!
[05:11] <MarioMeyer> not usual
[05:11] <bshumate> Congrats to all the new members! :-)
[05:11] <mako> *gavel*
[05:11] <raphink> :)
[05:11] <raphink> thanks bshumate 
[05:11] <Kamion> hang on
[05:11] <Kamion> I have one thing
[05:11] <mako> damnit
[05:11] <dholbach> grats!
[05:11] <mako> :)
[05:11] <jsgotangco> lol
[05:11] <Seveas> I'm gonna make dinner, will write the summary later
[05:11] <mako> Kamion: ok
[05:11] <Madpilot> yeah, congrats to all, and thanks!
[05:11] <mhz> bshumate: google!!!
[05:11] <Seveas> ahm Kamion has to spoil it :p 
[05:12] <Kamion> we have some, er, notable people on the lp proposed members list
[05:12] <bshumate> mhz: hmm?
[05:12] <mako> Kamion: ahh.. good point
[05:12] <MarioMeyer> just 1 thing.. a brazillian member wants to buy kubuntu-br.org and start using it.. does the CC have anything agains it?
[05:12] <Kamion> Jane Weideman, Jeff Waugh
[05:12] <mako> ah,
[05:12] <Kamion> anyone object to me just setting those to approved?
[05:12] <mhz> bshumate: congrats! it's just that i told raphink 'yahoo' :D
[05:12] <elmo> no
[05:12] <dholbach> Kamion: we should interrogate both of them. :-)
[05:13] <mako> jeff and jane sound fine
[05:13] <Seveas> dholbach, agreed
[05:13] <Kamion> I think it's pretty obvious they've been making sustained and significant contributions :-)
[05:13] <ogra_ibook> heh
[05:13] <Seveas> Kamion, someone should prune that list too
[05:13] <Riddell> MarioMeyer: ideally they'd get canonical to buy it
[05:13] <mako> i think we can bend the rules for those two :)
[05:13] <Seveas> I've been poking them a few months ago
[05:13] <bshumate> mhz: ahh. thanks! :-)
[05:14] <mako> Kamion: are you approving folks?
[05:14] <mhz> bye all
[05:14] <mako> Kamion: in lp?
[05:14] <Kamion> mako: yeah, I think I've done everyone approved this meeting
[05:14] <mhz> Congrats to everyone in
[05:14] <Riddell> MarioMeyer: who wants to buy it and for what purpose?
[05:14] <Kamion> if I've missed anyone as of now, please let me know
[05:14] <twilight> bye mhz, thank you
[05:14] <mako> Kamion: cool
[05:14] <MarioMeyer> it's a new member..
[05:14] <mako> alright then
[05:14] <mako> i should find my way to work
[05:14] <Seveas> have fun
[05:15] <MarioMeyer> he says he uses kubuntu and havend seen any kubuntu work in the brazillian group
[05:15] <jsgotangco> ok good night i gotta sleep
[05:15] <raphink> don't get lost mako 
[05:15] <raphink> ;)
[05:15] <mako> i might as well have lunch first
[05:15] <raphink> "night jsgotangco 
[05:15] <mako> one of those days :)
[05:15] <Seveas> see you all in 2 weeks
[05:15] <MarioMeyer> i just thought i should say something before he buys it
[05:15] <raphink> hehe
[05:15] <jsgotangco> errr what time?
[05:15] <Seveas> jan 24
[05:15] <mako> lets do it a bit later
[05:15] <Kamion> Riddell: can I get you to discuss this with MarioMeyer offline, and pass him on to silbs or whoever if need be?
[05:15] <Riddell> MarioMeyer: sounds great but please send him my way, jriddell@ubuntu.com or IRC
[05:15] <mako> we've beenhaviing morning meetings 
[05:15] <Riddell> Kamion: yep
[05:15] <Seveas> mako, propose a time :)
[05:15] <mako> 21UTC?
[05:16] <mako> is that as late as we can go for the UKer's?
[05:16] <mako> oh wait
[05:16] <Seveas> 21UTC is fine to me, that's 21:00 UK
[05:16] <mako> the GPLv3 meetiing is that day
[05:16] <mako> let me looks
[05:16] <Seveas> ah
[05:16] <MarioMeyer> ok Kamion 
[05:16] <mako> no it's not
[05:16] <MarioMeyer> ok Riddell 
[05:16] <Seveas> so, 24 jan 21:00 UTC?
[05:16] <mako> that time should be fine
[05:16] <mako> yes
[05:16] <Seveas> OK, then goodbye all :)
[05:17] <raphink> bye Seveas 
[05:17] <Kamion> that's fine
[05:17] <Kamion> see you next fortnight
[05:18] <Madpilot> later, all
[05:18] <bshumate> good day all!
[05:18] <dholbach> later
[05:21] <raphink> argh just a bit too late jpatrick 
[05:21] <raphink> :s
[05:21] <raphink> it just finished :s
[06:51] <Simira> gluffgluff