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zeromodok im out of here. thanks again for the backup help gentlemen12:00
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punkrockguy318is the sound broken in dapper?12:00
flannelbut i am stuck in the least newb friendly environment ever lol12:00
mweflannel: you probably gotta reconfigure xwindows12:00
cafuego_Saif_: That says: "If pppd is not executable, or if /etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot is not a file, then exit".12:00
flannelhow do I do that...  I thought this was supposed to be newb friendly12:01
mweflannel: maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and fill in _correct_ info12:01
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flannelyikes...12:01
_Saif_ok tell me fianlly what command i should try on terminal12:01
crimsunpunkrockguy318: no, it works fine, why?12:01
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cafuego_Saif_: " if /etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot is not a file, then exit" -> Delete that file, so the script would exit.12:01
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punkrockguy318crimsun, hmm, it's broken for me.. I installed kubuntu-desktop and removed it, and now my sound is broken12:02
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flanneldont want to really ditch this but I was told by several people that this distro "just works"12:02
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_Saif_Ok12:02
crimsunpunkrockguy318: removing that metapackage wouldn't affect sound at all.12:02
_Saif_let me check12:02
crimsunpunkrockguy318: cat /proc/asound/cards  --> pastebin12:02
punkrockguy318crimsun, no, i removed it all togehter12:02
flanneland it is giving me a headache :(12:02
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tech9inersimple ?buntu taster here matesNlassies..12:03
navaroneflannel what is the problem you are having?12:03
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punkrockguy3180 [Live           ] : EMU10K1 - SB Live 5.1           SB Live 5.1 (rev.7, serial:0x80641102) at 0xdf80, irq 17712:03
butcherbirdflannel: you can pretty much just enter through defaults during reconfigure12:03
ateveshi! is there a way to start a normal software as a process?12:03
atevesvia shell12:03
crimsunpunkrockguy318: ``amixer''  --> pastebin12:03
flannelI have finally managed to get into ubuntu but have no gui at all12:03
mweateves: just run it12:03
_Saif_theres a file name " pppoe_on_boot12:03
tech9inerrealizing im loading up off ubuntu 5.0.4.. which is default gnome environment..12:04
cafuego_Saif_: Check if that is referenced anywhere in /etc/init.d/ and then read the script that uses it.12:04
flannelbutcherbird, how do I reconfigure....  mwe said a command but there were blanks :(12:04
nikolthe neccesery utils,libs,etc ???12:04
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tech9inercan one convert ubuntu to kubuntu via synaptic with apropos sources/repositories perchance please?12:04
punkrockguy318crimsun, http://pastebin.com/49850212:04
brl4nAfter booting with the LiveCD version AMD64 my monitor shows nothing.  I'm assuming that it can't display the resolution so I checked off everything but 800x600.  Still just a black screen.  Any suggestions?  I have an ATI All-in-wonder 600x12:04
mweflannel: ?12:04
butcherbirdflannel: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver12:04
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cafuegotech9iner: Normal repos, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.12:05
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flannelmaybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and fill in _correct_ info12:05
mwebutcherbird: xserver-xorg, isn't it12:05
flannelthe fill in correct info got me mwe ... sorry :(12:05
navaronetech9iner, you can install kubuntu-desktop to get kubuntu on ubuntu...then you chose kde at log-in session12:05
sorush20mwe there is nothin mentioned about a floppy on this page at all .. bad link in ubotu12:05
cafuegoOoh, new usplash?12:05
butcherbirdmwe: probably not on ubuntu right now12:05
_Saif_init.d , in this folder theres a file named , PPP12:05
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mwesorush20: it's the same procudure12:05
ManifoldAch.12:05
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flannelbutcherbird: u sure that'll work if i run it once I log in?12:06
TTilusI have "johanna     tavi = (mythtv) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/mythfrontend" in sudoers but "sudo -u mythtv /usr/bin/mythfrontend" still asks password for johanna12:06
sorush20mwe not the same procedure..12:06
mwesorush20: sudo mkdir -p /media/floppy && sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy, probably12:06
cafuego_Saif_: What does /etc/init.d/ppp say about pppoe_on_boot?12:06
mwesorush20: indeed12:06
butcherbirdflannel: abolutely 20% sure12:06
_Saif_so what do you think, should i delete that pppoe boot file or this one12:06
flannellmao12:06
Mx16Ok so sorry, it says "Unable to start X Server (your graphical interface) blah blah and what do I do???12:06
crimsunpunkrockguy318: your PCM is set very slow, and you need to mute 'IEC958 Optical Raw'12:06
flannelis that a jk or truth12:06
butcherbirdflannel: mostly joke12:07
flannelhehe12:07
butcherbirdflannel: should work12:07
flannelwill go try now...12:07
brl4nhelp! help!12:07
_Saif_it says about ppoe_on_boot12:07
brl4nhee12:07
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_Saif_i can show you the script on your private12:07
Pygifreaky: ping12:07
slew!java12:07
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ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs12:07
Mx16someone said I need to type "sudo dexconf"??12:07
sorush20mew there is not need to cread a floppy dr any where since it is alredy there and also there is no need to format your floppy if you are try to view the files on a floppy12:07
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cafuego_Saif_: Use the pastebin12:07
cafuego!paste12:07
ubotumethinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text12:07
brl4n!ATI12:07
ubotufrom memory, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1012:07
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wogiQuestion: Is there a way to undo your last apt-get install? A package had a lot of dependancies, and didn't install properly anyhow, and it added a bunch of stuff like slapd and mailman and exim, and I just kind of want to go back to the previous state. If I apt-get remove gforge (the package), it doesn't free up nearly as much space as it took, so I guess its not removing all of its dependancies?12:07
_Saif_cafuego, i'm in flood12:08
thick-glassesis anyone running the latest ati driver with breezy?12:08
sorush20mew there is also no mention of vfat12:08
Ngwogi: unfortunately, not really12:08
mwewogi: sudo debfoster. install it if you haven't got it12:08
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sorush20how do I find out what is the file system of a floppy?12:08
bryanfdoes anyone know why /dev/rtc would be missing on dapper?12:08
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brl4nsweet12:08
mwewogi: it will ask a lot the first time you run it though12:08
wogimwe: mkay :)12:09
crimsunbryanf: because the module isn't loaded?12:09
bryanfcrimsun: what module?12:09
mwewogi: go with defaults with anything you're unsure about12:09
crimsunbryanf: rtc12:09
tech9inerg r e a t12:09
bryanfcrimsun: sudo modprobe rtc12:09
bryanfFATAL: Module rtc not found.12:09
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crimsunbryanf: uname -r12:10
Mx16it says "Unable to start X Server (your graphical interface) blah blah and what do I do12:10
bryanfcrimsun: 2.6.15-11-powerpc12:10
tech9inerjust finished installing off 5.0.4 cd and messed up username / password.. and now realizing wasnt offered opportunity to assign root password was i mates?12:10
mweMx16: yeah reconfigure it12:10
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wogimwe: uh oh..Now any apt-get install or remove I do gives me a list of errors in regards to gforge related packages, and is returning an error code..12:10
bryanftech9iner: no, ubuntu doesn't use root12:10
mweMx16: probably sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and fill in _correct_ info12:10
crimsunbryanf: you probably don't have a kernel/drivers/char/rtc.ko12:10
tech9inerat all bryanf ?12:10
cOff3ebuZzhello. How do you start the networking interface so that eth0 can get an IP from the dhcp server?12:10
KillerKiwi2005i've installed the simias ifolder server how to i start it as a serivce ?12:10
bryanftech9iner: you use sudo to do all root stuff12:10
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cOff3ebuZz/etc/init.d/networking ?12:11
mwewogi: pastebin the errors12:11
bryanfcrimsun: nope12:11
Mx16do i type that when i log in?12:11
wogimwe: but its telling me a bunch of stuff, so let me read a bit first..12:11
trappistbryanf: try genrtc12:11
tech9inerso any pointers mates on howto fix typo'ed username password on 1st unbuntu install please?12:11
bryanftrappist: awesome12:11
Mx16becuase i can't even start it and it;s just my username and password and it says welcome to Ubuntu12:11
wogimew: 9 not fully installed or removed.12:12
mweMx16: yeah12:12
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wogimwe: thats the jist of it.12:12
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tech9inerso way bryanf to use sudo access to users to reset password maybe?.. failsafe ?12:12
mweMx16: type if after login at the console12:12
Mx16ok thanks I'll try it12:12
bryanftech9iner: huh?12:12
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brl4nlinux is too much trouble for what it is worth....ugg.12:12
Pygibrl4n: lol12:13
mwewogi: I'd try sudo apt-get -f12:13
Pygilinux is no trouble at all12:13
Pygiwindows is the trouble12:13
tech9inerat very 1st ever login upon 1st completed ubuntu install.. i obviously typoed the installs username and/or password during install12:13
brl4ni've never been able to install a working system.12:13
bryanftrappist: now, if I can just get X to draw progress bars correctly12:13
brl4nalways graphics problems12:13
Pygibrl4n: well, get a friend to install it for you at first time12:13
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Pygithen you'll learn12:13
Pygibrl4n: no graphics problem at all12:13
Pygibrl4n: you or your friend just needs to know *tm*12:13
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brl4nwell I have wireless so I can't get drivers.12:14
Pygibrl4n: drivers for what? wireless? oh, you surely can12:14
KillerKiwi2005how do i start something as a service?12:14
mwebrl4n: ndiswrapper solves that in most cases12:14
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nikoli have p4 2.4 i must download the package for the powerpc or for i386?12:14
Cintiahow to configure the samba as client?12:14
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gauroscan i have some help with ubuntu12:14
tech9inerbrl4n: hmm.. sad guv.. i buggered me password during installation's username configs.. but ubuntu 5.0.4 cd installed like a breeze on this antique panasonic toughbook.. Pll 366 w just 128ram..12:14
Avenhow do I open the 113 port?12:14
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mwenikol: if you don't have a mac don't get the ppc12:15
tech9inerso mates..12:15
gauroshow do i log in as root12:15
brl4nyeah but how am I supposed to get the drivers if I can't get on the internet?  The liveCD doesn't work so i'm pretty stuck12:15
Pygibrl4n: well, make the friend download it for u :P12:15
Avenubotu tell gauros about root12:15
Pygiubotu tell gauros about root12:15
Pygi:/12:15
Aven:P12:15
gauroswell i justed installed ubuntu12:16
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gaurosand i am trying to mate a folder /var/bin12:16
Pygigauros: ubotu just told u12:16
brl4ni find it funny that you need another computer to install.12:16
gaurosbut it does not let me12:16
Avenuse sudo12:16
mwebrl4n: of course the live cd works. i'd say this is probably a typical PEBKAC12:16
brl4nPEBKAC?12:16
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Pygibrl4n: I find it funny that you are even considering linux if you don't want to activate "grey matter" (TM)12:16
Aventhe url that ubotu give ya explains everything :D12:16
Stormx2What packages do I need for the "svn" command?12:16
TTilusgauros: why do you want to create that?12:16
tech9inerany ref url's for fugdeupps like yours truly please.. 1st ubuntu installed with typoed username / password during install.. cant login..12:16
gauroswell i need it for my dreambox12:16
Pygibrl4n: come out of Windows philosophy....this is Linux :P12:16
punkrockguy318crimsun, i muted the optical raw and brought up pcm, still no sound.. any ideas?12:16
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tech9inertiniest of clues appreciated muchly mates.. thanks12:16
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navaronetech9iner, I take it you are not on ubuntu now?12:17
brl4npygi:yeah i know.  every time I attempt it doesn't work.  I've given up on it12:17
Stormx2I've tried installing libsvn0 but that seems to have done absolutely nothing,12:17
gaurosTTilus:how can i do it12:17
mwebrl4n: just go back to windows then12:17
crimsunpunkrockguy318: mute 'Sigmatel Surround Phase Inversion Playback '12:17
Pygibrl4n: huh :/12:17
brl4nmwe:blah12:17
tech9inernavarone: aye.. spot on chum.. u install is on lappy side my suse10 main workstation.. ;] 12:17
mwebrl4n: you said you've given up12:17
Pygimwe: we are here to help, but we can't help someone who doesn't want help :P12:18
crimsunpunkrockguy318: possibly 'Sigmatel Surround', too12:18
TTilusgauros: have you checked if dreambox is available as .deb package?12:18
Pygibrl4n: we are here to help, but we can't help someone who doesn't want help :P12:18
crimsunpunkrockguy318: and have you adjusted the Headphones* elements?12:18
TTilusgauros: always first check that12:18
brl4nOK.  maybe I'll try on my other system.  thanks12:18
punkrockguy318crimsun, no, where should they be?12:18
ketasetlaunching gnome applications is really slow on a new install - everything else seems fine, just launching new apps - e.g. calculator takes 6 secs to load, anyone know what might cause this?12:18
TTilusgauros: packages.ubuntu.com, or better yet synaptic, aptitude or like12:18
Pygiketaset: how much memory u have? swap?12:18
gaurosTTilus: mate i have a plugin called gbox that will help me connect dreambox with PC, but it need to be on /var/bin to run12:19
IdleOne!eggdrop12:19
crimsunpunkrockguy318: use any standard mixer12:19
ubotuIdleOne: Are you smoking crack?12:19
Cintiapygi, help me then :)12:19
TTilusketaset: hd performance, do you have dma enabled, chec hdparm /dev/hd*12:19
ketaset1gb mem, 2gb swap - the machine seems responsived except for launching apps from gnome12:19
PygiCintia: what's the problem??12:19
punkrockguy318crimsun, yeah, i know.. but where should the headphone levels be?12:19
tech9inerhowto reset 1st run username / password please.. thanks12:19
Pygiketaset: lol, 2gb swap :P12:19
crimsunpunkrockguy318: what level?12:19
CintiaIm trying to set my samba as client12:19
crimsunpunkrockguy318: whatever you find comfortable12:19
punkrockguy318crimsun, yeah, you asked if i had changed them12:19
Pygicintia: huh, and why you caught me for that? :P12:20
Cintiathe linux as client and the xp as server12:20
punkrockguy318crimsun, i've muted the surround and i'm still getting no sound12:20
Cintialol12:20
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Cintiacause u r the best12:20
gaurosTTilus:tahts why i need to login as root to make taht folder12:20
morethi!12:20
moretplease12:20
brl4npygi:i'm confused obviously.  If i can't get my display to work how do I even issue commands?12:20
crimsunpunkrockguy318: so adjust the Headphones* ones12:20
Pygicintia: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/book/ch10_04.html12:20
moretwhere is dpkg-reconfigure locales?12:20
ketasetdma is enabled ttilus12:20
navaronetech9iner, you can use install cd to do a rescue...boot up and type "rescue" at prompt...perhaps then you will be able to add a  user and NOT fudge the name and passwords12:20
TTilus!root12:20
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.12:20
gaurosTTilus:because as member it does not let me either to copy or paste on /var12:20
Pygibrl4n: well, can you use a shell???12:20
CintiaPygi, cheers, I'll try12:20
crimsunpunkrockguy318: oh, and more importantly, the Wave* ones12:20
Stormx2I have a dependancy problem! libsvn0-dev:12:20
Stormx2 Depends: libdb4.2-dev but it is not going to be installed12:20
Pygicintia: k, say if it doesnt work12:20
wogimwe: apt-get -f remove gforge-db-postgresq gives me Removing gforge-db-postgresql ...cp: cannot stat `/etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf': No such file or directory  dpkg: error processing gforge-db-postgresql (--remove): subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1 :/ I think I broke it.. (Thank you for helping me!)12:20
Pygi!enter12:21
TTilusgauros: listen to ubotu ...12:21
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!12:21
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brl4nPygi:nothing shows up on the display.  not even a shell.12:21
Pygiwogi, refrain from that :P12:21
crimsunpunkrockguy318: 'Wave' is also muted. Fix that.12:21
wogiPygi: Mm?12:21
Pygibrl4n: hm, u using ubuntu 5.10? and installation passes ok?12:21
Pygiwogi, read....12:21
Pygi!enter12:21
mwewogi: sudo apt-get -f with no arguement. just sudo apt-get -f12:21
Stormx2>_< I feel so invisible tonight.12:21
Pygi!enter12:21
punkrockguy318crimsun, still no sound :(12:21
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ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!12:21
mwewogi: that's what I wanted you to try12:21
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PygiStormx2: lol :P12:21
crimsunpunkrockguy318: did you unmute and increase Wave*, too?12:21
Pygicintia: tell iif it doesnt work12:21
Stormx2Pygi: Maybe you could help?12:21
nikolafter the installation where i can find and run the app???12:22
Cintiaok12:22
PygiStormx2: huh, what do you need?12:22
punkrockguy318crimsun, yes12:22
crimsunpunkrockguy318: _all_ of them?12:22
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punkrockguy318yes12:22
punkrockguy318and Wave is muted12:22
brl4npygi:well the LiveCD.  it seems to boot fine but nothing appears on the display.  I figured it is trying to start X and it is failing.  how can I access just a shell from the LiveCD.  (AMD64 too)12:22
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Stormx2Pygi: I have a dependancy problem.12:22
Pygibrl4n: please try again, and if you get shell, then everything else is easy :)12:22
cyphasecan someone give me the link to a nytimes.com article that requires a username?12:22
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crimsunpunkrockguy318: it's supposed to be _unmuted_12:22
Pygistormx: k, please post the problem on a pm, thanks12:22
moretI run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" and I don't get nothing! I need reconfigure locales12:22
cyphasei want to try to get past it (not with BugMeNot)12:22
nikolafter the installation where i can find and run the app???12:22
punkrockguy318crimsun, alright, it's still the same behavior12:23
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navaronetech9iner, I would do a "man adduser" in terminal first to see what parameters are needed. I think "adduser" by itself will mean a prompt for name and password12:23
gaurosubuntu:what are other wasy of making folders12:23
Pygibrl4n: huh, live cd :/ u should have said so :P live cd is kinda tricky and doesnt work as it should but still....12:23
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Pygibrl4n: try using CTRL + ALT + F212:23
Stormx2Pygi: Check your PM12:23
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brl4nkool thanks12:23
punkrockguy318crimsun, any other ideas?12:23
mwenavarone: and probably no homedir created :)12:23
brl4nbbl12:23
Pygistormx2: I am, I am just busy :P12:23
crimsunpunkrockguy318: sigh. sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload && sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo modprobe snd-emu10k112:24
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Pygistormx2: responded12:24
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nikolafter the installation where i can find and run the app???12:25
henrik__Anybody up for helping me getting my Radeon 9600 TX to work? Tried the how-tos, no cigar...12:25
mwenikol: what app?12:25
slewhi, whats the program that installs icons and themes from art.gnome.org?12:25
Pygihenrik: I'll help, just a sec :P12:25
punkrockguy318crimsun, no luck (12:25
henrik__cool12:25
navaronemwe...possibly...I never used the command beforebut man adduser says it will create homwe direcvtory subject to DHOME..blah blah...I guess defaults12:25
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moretplease, help, I need reconfigure locales, but when I execute sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales happens nothing12:25
mwenikol: most programs add a shorcut to the menu, but it wont appear until you log out and back in I think12:25
saifcafuego, problem remains12:26
crimsunpunkrockguy318: after you reloaded snd-emu10k1, did you unmute anything?12:26
saifits dial auto12:26
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punkrockguy318no12:26
saifanyway thx for the help12:26
crimsun...12:26
punkrockguy318crimsun, my mixer is at the same level12:26
saifi will push out the phone pin while i start ubuntu12:26
Pygiubotu tell henrik__ about ati12:26
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Pygihenrik__, tried that??12:26
crimsunpunkrockguy318: amixer output12:26
wogimwe: So that gives me a help file, yeah? But I'm not seeing I guess what I need. I'll keep looking. Thanks!12:26
mwenavarone: yeah. I was thinking of useradd12:26
punkrockguy318amixer: Unkown command 'output'12:27
crimsunpunkrockguy318: no, I want the amixer output on pastebin12:27
Pygicintia: does it work now?12:27
mwewogi: or install the broken package then uninstall it to clean it up12:27
PygiI am booked for the next 10 years, please call later if u need any help :P12:27
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gauroshow to make file with sodu12:27
ompaulpunkrockguy318, >>amixer<< and put it into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org12:27
wogimwe: ooh clever. :)12:28
Pygigauros: what kind of file?12:28
jamieI installed Enlightenment, and somehow ended up with entranced as my login I would perfer to go back to the default, GDM? How can I do this12:28
Pygigauros: sudo vim ja.txt :))))12:28
Pygiubotu tell jamie about GDM12:28
mwewogi: yeah sometimes windows logic works in linux too12:28
punkrockguy318crimsun, http://pastebin.com/49853012:28
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navaronemwe...but update is better...<s>12:28
wogimwe: heh I think I was mising sudo apt-get -f install (the "install")12:29
gaurosfolder i meant12:29
punkrockguy318 my sound has been working fine until just recently.  I don't know if it was a dapper dist-upgrade, or the kubuntu install12:29
bimberijamie: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm12:29
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crimsunpunkrockguy318: amixer sset 'SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack' on12:29
jamiebimberi, tks12:29
mwewogi: so it's fixed?12:29
navaronepunkrockguy318, perhaps you'd be better served visiting a dapper support channel...?12:29
mamadragonboyIs anyone there who can help me with installation?12:29
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bimberijamie: yw :)12:29
punkrockguy318navarone, like what?12:30
Pyginavarone: there is no dapper support channel :/12:30
crimsunpunkrockguy318: ugh, you could have told me it was a dist-upgrade.12:30
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navaroneno? oy vey12:30
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gauroshow to make a folder12:30
punkrockguy318crimsun, I thought i mentioned it12:30
gauroson sudo12:30
Pyginavarone: except #dapper :PPP12:30
mwegauros: sudo mkdir12:30
navaronecarry on punkrockguy318 ...<s>12:30
mamadragonboyplease?12:30
gaurostahnx12:30
mamadragonboyor direct me to where I can get help?12:30
Pygi!patience12:30
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.12:30
wogimwe: Not totally no, but I'm getting some slightly different messages :D12:30
mwewogi: ok12:30
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tech9inercan one convert ubuntu to kubuntu via synaptic with apropos sources/repositories perchance please?12:31
mamadragonboyok12:31
mwewogi: what is it complaining about?12:31
Pygitech: ofcourse12:31
crimsunpunkrockguy318: not that I see. Anyhow...12:31
sethktech9iner, you can, but it is easier to just have both gnome and kde installed12:31
tech9inerPygi: thanks12:31
sethktech9iner, that's trivial12:31
Pygitech: use sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:31
Stormx2According to the good folks in #audacious, my SVN is broken. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/685612:31
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alekandrtech9iner: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :]  the rest is the same, apart from kde and gnome :] 12:31
tech9inercomforting indeedy mates..12:31
punkrockguy318crimsun, any other ideas? i've tried two different pairs of speakers... and it seems to work on my win install12:31
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crimsunpunkrockguy318: did you unmute what I siad?12:31
crimsunsaid12:31
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punkrockguy318crimsun, yes12:31
bimberimamadragonboy: tell us what the problem is, hopefully someone can help12:32
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crimsunpunkrockguy318: now unmute 'Wave' and 'Wave Front' and adjust them12:32
wogimwe: Well the pkg its having trouble removing (even after reinstalling) is gforge-db-postgresql. And it first said it couldn't find /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf (I guess removed in a previous uninstall attempt?) and died, so I touch /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf, and now its saying cannot open /var/lib/postgres/data/postmaster.pid for reading: no file or directory, so thats where its dying.12:32
gauroshow can my user have full root permisions, copy, paste, delete, new etc12:33
michael__might flood - sorry, this is the terminal report of my problem12:33
mamadragonboyWhen I boot from the cd, it give me this message "isolinux 2.04 2003-04-16 isolinux: loading spec packet failed, trying to wing it... isolinux: failed to locate cd-rom devide; boot failed"  But I know my cd rom is working12:33
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crimsunpunkrockguy318: sorry, 'Wave' and 'Front'12:33
mwewogi: and you can't remove it either?12:33
kitty_my ubuntu doesnt recognize music off cd's... its doing my nut in12:33
michael__nope have to type it12:33
Pygidragonboy: media is bad or corupted12:33
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wogithats what i'm trying to do..12:33
punkrockguy318crimsun, done, same thing :-\12:33
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gauroshow can my user have full root permisions, copy, paste, delete, new etc12:34
mamadragonboyshould I try finding a new driver? or what?12:34
crimsunpunkrockguy318: mute 'External Amplifier'12:34
kitty_can some on help me... my computer wont make any sound come out...12:34
crimsungod I hate broken emu10k1 chipsets.12:34
Pygidragonboy: no get new media12:34
wogimwe: its like -f isn't powerful enough :P12:34
mwewogi: but sudo apt-get --purge remove gforge-db-postgresql wont work?12:34
Pygicrimsun: hehe :)12:34
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Pygi!patience12:34
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.12:34
mamadragonboyok, thanks- this was my last attempt to get an old computer to work-12:34
punkrockguy318crimsun, done, no speaker output :(12:34
wogimwe: nope. exactly same thing :/12:35
henrik__I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but I seem to be missing some of the fonts under the "files"-section (meaning I don't have them on my comp) in my xorg.conf. Where do I go about getting those?12:35
navaronegaurus why not simply use sudo instead of root account? Or do you enjoy your time here so much you want a reason to copme back?12:35
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wogihehe12:35
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punkrockguy318crimsun, what do you think the problem could be?12:35
Pygi!font12:35
ubotu[font]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto12:35
henrik__thanks12:35
Doomhammercan someone help me out a bit with QEMU? I can't seem to get the network working12:35
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gaurosnavarone:mate i am new in here, i have no idea about sodu12:36
Pygidoomhammer: what is ur problem exactly?12:36
kitty_who runs this thing12:36
crimsunpunkrockguy318: ok, here's what you need to do: unmute anything that has a 'Front', 'Headphone', or 'Wave' in the title, then toggle 'External Amplifier' until you get a combination that works.12:36
Pygiubotu tell gauros about sudo12:36
Pygiubotu tell gauros about gksudo12:36
Pygiubotu tell gauros about kdesu12:36
gaurosnavarone:where can i get a list with al the commands12:36
Pygithere gauros12:36
mwewogi: well I'd try sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/gforge-db-post<tab> then sudo dpkg --purge gforge-db-postgresql then12:36
pschulz01Greetings: I'm getting a 'can't display' error when using 'sftp:' on the desktop.12:36
DoomhammerPygi: any OS i install in QEMU (windows xp, ubuntu, whatever) can't access the network12:36
navaronepunkrockguy318, sorry if you've done this but have you looked at the System Multimedia selector in System preferences and seen if it looks ok?12:36
DoomhammerPygi: although, qemu can access /dev/net/tun and the kernel module is properly configured12:36
nikoli run an .deb and i can;t install it, what prog i must select to install it?????12:37
Pygidpkg -i package.deb12:37
Pygidoomhammer: I am guessing that you cant run two instances of a network :/ the host OS is using network, but the guest cant use it12:37
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mwenikol: installing random debs could break the system though12:37
michael__E: Cannot get debconf sersion. Is debconf Installed?        debconf: apt-extracttemplates failed: Argument list too long <-- REPEATS        Preconfiguring packages...        dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 2 package `dpkg': error in Version string`': version string is empty12:37
Stormx2Ack. Reinstalling SVN did not help at all!12:37
Pygimichael: do not enter12:37
nikolpygi: in console?12:37
navaronegaurus, sudo is simply a way to limit the time people spend on their systems with root privileges. Running root all the time is insecure and potentially can make a simple mistake costly12:37
Pygi!enter12:37
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!12:37
theinenikol, or probably rather "sudo dpkg -i package.deb"12:38
punkrockguy318navarone, there's no such thing in Dapper12:38
nikolpygi: in console?12:38
wogimwe: That <tab> doesn't completefor me.. I don't have that file..12:38
Pyginikol: yesh12:38
michael__-while trying to install debconf12:38
punkrockguy318crimsun, still no luck12:38
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DoomhammerPygi: the host OS (ubuntu hoary) shouldn't be using /dev/net/tun, afaik ?12:38
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bobbyI need to install via graphics drivers (I believe viafb) ...does any one know the aptitude deb package for it because the precompiled binary doesn't work12:38
Pyginikol: but don't try to do that unless u are familiar with all types of things12:38
pschulz01I have mounted a server system using ssh, and can browse, but get the erro when 'double clicking'. Can copy the file to local filesystem, and view it there though. Any ideas?12:38
wogimwe: Let me see what I Do have in there.12:38
bettong_BOFHok i had installed kubuntu via apt get later i removed it and i want to get the kubuntu crap outta my menu's?12:38
Pygidoomhammer: hm.....12:38
gaurosnavarone: i just need root for one think, is it possible to get the root pass12:38
bettong_BOFHis there a menu editor for ubuntu?12:38
Pygibettong: #kubuntu12:38
crimsunpunkrockguy318: ok, use the Volume Control (in OSS perspective)12:38
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wogimwe: aha, one more dir, "archives"12:38
Pygigauros: USE SUDO12:38
bettong_BOFHthere no help there12:38
gaurosnavarone:i cannot use sudo as i am new with linux12:38
PygiNO ROOT12:38
nikolpygi: it is not neccesery to give the whole path?12:38
Pygigauros: ubotu told u12:38
bettong_BOFHthats why i came here12:38
bettong_BOFHlol12:38
theinepschulz01, what error do you get?12:38
Pyginikol: no12:38
punkrockguy318crimsun, okay12:39
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Pygigauros: ubotu told u about sudo12:39
navaronegaurus what command are you trying to run that needs root? sudo can be used for it I am sure12:39
theinepschulz01, and how did you mount it?12:39
phoghawkHey guys, I just installed GAIM 2.0 via CVS. I wanna know how to tell apt-get that it's already the newest version and that it doesn't need to be upgraded. Can anyone help me12:39
gaurosPygi:ubotu told me and u think its so easy to understand12:39
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bimberibettong_BOFH: Applications -> System Tools -> Applications Menu Editor12:39
Pygigauros: well, it is easy :P12:39
Pygijust type "sudo" :P12:39
Pygiwhat is a problem?12:39
bettong_BOFHbimberi: thank you12:39
bimberibettong_BOFH: np :)12:39
theinenikol, you need to give the whole path to package.deb, yes12:39
gaurosPygi: ok make a folder, i did, copy a file form external hard driver to theta folder and run that file12:40
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bimberinikol: you'll also need to use sudo12:40
Pygigauros: and whats the problem?12:40
gaurosnavarone:thats what i want to do12:40
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phoghawkHey guys, I just installed GAIM 2.0 via CVS. I wanna know how to tell apt-get that it's already the newest version and that it doesn't need to be upgraded. Can anyone help me12:40
naliothubotu: tell phoghawk about pinning12:40
gaurosPygi: do you think its linux so easy for everyone12:40
moretplease, help, I need reconfigure locales, but when I execute sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales happens nothing12:40
phoghawkthanks nalioth12:40
moretplease, help, I need reconfigure locales, but when I execute sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales happens nothing, I use Dapper12:40
Pygigauros: not actually, but "sudo" shouldnt be a problem :P12:40
Pygimoret, visit #ubuntu-devel12:41
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bimberiphoghawk: you can use synaptic to lock the version (Package menu)12:41
punkrockguy318crimsun, what should i do with the oss volume controls?12:41
Pygi!patience12:41
pschulz01Couldn't display "sftp://blue/<path-goes-here>/file.PDF" - in a popup box.12:41
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.12:41
navaronegaurus so in terminal it would be sudo cp /path to file to copy  /folder you made12:41
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navaronegaurus you need to mount external harddrive as well in order to access the file to copy12:42
gaurosthats what i am trying to find12:42
gaurosall the sodu commands12:42
gaurosi have12:42
Pygisudo*12:42
gaurosand it works12:42
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Pygiwell you can run anything with sudo :/12:42
theinepschulz01, hmm, and you can view the file locally if you double click it?12:42
Pygihuh, should I just quit :P12:42
wogimwe: Good gravy.From that dpkg --purge /var... one, it tells me /etc/init.d/postgresql was notfound, and just errors out. Ok.. I'll just need to start over maybe.. install the whole thing again and try debfoster again or something *droop* h8 gforge12:42
navaronegaurus try "man sudo" in terminal or "sudo -help"12:42
crimsunpunkrockguy318: adjust them til you find a combination that works. I'm busy atm.12:42
nekostaris there a package like cksfv that does md5's of files and saves or something?12:42
pschulz01theine: I think I've found my problem...12:42
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mwewogi: did you reinstall it first?12:43
mwewogi: with dpkg12:43
punkrockguy318crimsun, alright. thank you for all your time.. i've adjusted them as much as i could, i really don't think it's a problem with the mixer, it was working fine and I don't see what would have changed the mixer... thanks a lot for your help and if you have any more ideas, let me know12:44
pschulz01theine: it works on my workstation, not my co-workers. I had to change the '/etc/ssh/ssh_config' file to allow X11 apps to work, but he hasn't logged out and logged back in.. does this sound plausable?12:44
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theinenekostar, like md5sum?12:44
Stormx2This sucks big time. Problem with subversion and I have no idea what it is.....12:44
wogimwe: hmm.. With apt I think. But I've tried what you've said. I was just thinking gforge-db-postgresql is depending on something else that Did get successfully uninstalled..12:44
theinepschulz01, yes, very12:44
Stormx2And no-one else has it.12:44
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gauroslast question, why couple of manths ago, when i had ubuntu, i could do all these things12:45
mwewogi: sudo apt-get -d install --reinstall gforge-db-postgresql should re-download the .deb12:45
nekostarah thanx theine12:45
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theinenekostar, welcome12:45
navaroneStormx2, what is subversion?12:45
tuppagah  @ OO.o2 on dapper12:45
pschulz01theine: How does gnome use the ssh client? Does it use a library and read the 'config' first time?12:45
theinenavarone, it's a revision control system for code management12:45
mwewogi: the sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/gforge-db-post<tab> <enter>12:45
Stormx2navarone: svn, from my understanding its a way of running two versions of a package at the same time.12:45
wogimwe: did it put it in that /var/cache dir..?12:45
navarone...ahhh...over my head...lol12:45
wogimwe: k12:45
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mwewogi: then sudo dpkg --purge gforge-db-postgresql12:46
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theinepschulz01, it probably reads the config, yes12:46
kairu0i have an irq sharing problem. my sound and network card want to share the same irq. how can i fix this?12:46
wogimwe: The install is failing due to absent /etc/init.d/postgresql12:46
theinepschulz01, what exactly Gnome it does under the hood I don't know...12:46
mwewogi: even with --force-all?12:47
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nekostargzip: stdout: No space left on device12:47
nekostarwhat does that mean theine ?12:47
wogimwe: yeah :(12:47
nekostari was trying to check manual on it and its fuxaserwerweord12:47
nekostari think i messed something up somewhere lol12:47
theinenekostar, what does what mean?12:47
wogimwe: dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/gforge-db-postgresql_3.1-31_all.deb12:47
nekostargzip: stdout: No space left on device <<--12:47
wogimwe: Its right, isn't it?12:47
nekostarman: command '/bin/gzip -dc /usr/share/man/man1/md5sum.1.gz' failed with exit status 25612:48
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theinenekostar, that probably means that your hard drive is full...12:48
nekostarthats the rest of the error12:48
nekostarnope not at12:48
nekostaro: the root hdd12:48
mwewogi: sudo it12:48
nekostaryeah12:48
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pschulz01theine: I'm gessing that it would be the 'gnome-volume-manager' that does the 'stuff'12:48
wogimwe: well I was naughty and sudo su'd earlier.. But I will.12:48
nekostaris there a way to increase the size of my root hdd?12:48
theinenekostar, clear /tmp or something...12:48
mwewogi: that's ok12:49
theinepschulz01, if that's the same as gnome-vfs, then probably yes12:49
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nekostaryeah thats a fix for now./..12:49
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pschulz01theine: I'm looking at the output from 'ps'. What is the ... ah nautilus12:50
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theinepschulz01, yes12:50
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wogimwe: we're trying all the forceful things aren't we.. :/ Maybe there's some manual way I can remove it..12:50
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mwewogi: I'd go over man dpkg. there are other options12:51
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wogimwe: kk12:51
yanishello12:51
mwewogi: I just told you what usually works for me12:51
yaniscan anybody help me with ssh authentication with rsa keys.......12:51
theinepschulz01, by the way, you might want to have a look at http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html . That's really cool12:51
tech9inernavarone rulz ;] ] ..12:51
jp-is there a meta package that install xorg, all the drivers and libs required to configure and run it? i've tried xorg-common xserver-xorg-core... still i cannot configure the X server, it dies with Missing output drivers12:52
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theinepschulz01, you are then able to access files on a remote server both through nautilus and command line as if they existed on your local system12:52
Pygitech: well, you can use root...12:52
bimberijp-: xserver-xorg ?12:52
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Pygibut not advisable12:52
jp-in debian there was an x-window-system meta package that did it.12:52
jp-no, have that one installed too.12:52
edoardohi gals, hi dudes : )12:53
edoardoyou guys12:53
theinepschulz01, don't know how X forwarding is handled in that case though12:53
mwetech9iner: just use sudo -i if you need a root prompt12:53
tech9inerhow does one access root Pygi .. and thanks chap for input fwiw ;] ] .. via konsole/terminal ?..12:53
edoardoyou guys, i'm havin' trouble with gnome-volume-manager, hal, and such. like, when i connect my usb key, ain't scsi.agent supposed to pop up and do somethin'? cause it don't appear in /var/log/messages to me! help! : ) thankyou! : )12:53
navaronetech9iner, don't applaud ...throw money12:53
tech9inermwe: coolness.. thanx12:53
michael__What do I add to the repository to make it take from the CD as well?12:53
Pygitech9iner: well, first set a pass using "sudo root passwd"12:54
pschulz01theine: Looking in '/proc/<process-id>' for nautilus.. 'cat maps' I can see that the 'libsftp' library is being used...12:54
Pygithen u can login as root12:54
Pygiubotu tell tech9iner about root12:54
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mwebut that not needed when you can just sudo -i to get a root shell12:54
=== tech9iner and navarone too ;]
bimberijp-: x-window-system-core ?12:54
Pygitech: lol :P12:54
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theinepschulz01, I see...12:55
navaroneI hope that's American money...<s>12:55
pschulz01theine: I don't see why it would need to be used either... unless it is needed for mime-types?12:55
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jp-bimberi: yes, that one too.12:55
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pschulz01theine: X11 that is.12:55
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bimberijp-: ok, i'll give up now :P12:55
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tech9inerhell.. got me printing overhead down to just .065 per sheet.. wthell i say.. share w the community ;] ] .. livn up to ubuntu is all lol12:55
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edoardoyou guys? help with hotplug! : )12:55
Pygibye all people12:56
jp-yeah, i give up too.12:56
CodenameKTbye12:56
Pygisee ya12:56
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jp-later on12:56
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tech9inerciao 4 now Pygi ;] 12:56
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theinepschulz01, wait a minute... you're right of course. Why would it need X forwarding? The PDF viewer runs locally after all...12:56
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joedjhi folks, i have what's essentially a KDE question (running kubuntu), but #kde is not helping. attempting to get a borderless window, i set konsole's window type to dock. now konsole can't get the focus at all, so i can't change it back by accessing the Alt+F3 window menu or anything. how can i use konsole again?12:56
duckdownAre there more current versions of ubuntu than 5.10 ?12:57
phoghawkduckdown, no12:57
joedji have about 10 konsole windows open that i was actively working in, so it would be nice if i can fix this without reinstalling my OS ;-)12:57
bimberi!dapper12:57
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.12:57
phoghawkduckdown, not until April12:57
duckdownphoghawk its not like Debian Stable using really old software is it?12:57
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phoghawkphoghawk, I have no idea. I just know when the next version is coming out12:58
yanisdo I need to use any special option when I run ssh client and I want to authenticate with rsa keys?12:58
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theinepschulz01, it's too late for me thinking properly...12:58
CodenameKTduckdown: no it will use the latest ver if it can12:58
navaronehmm...I just found a webpage  entry with someone telling how they got ipod nano working if anyone is interested http://www.ubuntux.org/forums/ubuntu-linux/installation-0    <--- scroll down12:58
pschulz01theine: Hmmm tricky... Thanks for your thoughts.12:58
duckdownCodenameKT I hope so.. Debian-STABLE is way too old12:58
mweyanis: you need the authorized_keys to contain your public key12:58
duckdownthanks.12:59
CodenameKTduckdown: np12:59
pschulz01theine: Where are you?12:59
yanismwe: I have done that.it still askes me for password.12:59
mweyanis: and go over /etc/ssh/sshd_config12:59
boogiehas anybody seen king kong yet?12:59
CodenameKTyes i dled it12:59
mweyanis: because that's the first method it tries I guess12:59
CodenameKTboogie: nice fx12:59
yanismwe: no its the last according to the man ssh01:00
mweyanis: I don't know then01:00
viecilihi all, i just want to enable the latin keyboard behavior. can anyone help me?01:00
boogiewas it as good as they say it is?01:00
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yanismwe: do I need to change anything in sshd_config?01:00
navaroneCodenameKT, Peter Jackson doesn't look like the same person though...he has lost a lot of weight since LOTR01:00
theinepschulz01, you mean physically?01:00
CodenameKTboogie: i don't know what the say it was but i think it was a decent movie to go see it again in theatres01:00
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boogiethanks01:01
CodenameKTboogie: np01:01
tech9inerk mates.. riddle me this please01:01
CodenameKTthat was a little off tpic tho01:01
theinepschulz01, in any case, I would suggest you try sshfs01:01
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viecilihi all, i just want to enable the latin keyboard behavior. can anyone help me? (~a "u 'e `a)01:02
tech9inerin logged in under new username i created via rescue from install cd since i fckd up my 1st ever username/pw somehow ;[.. but the only sudo approved user is the one lost now..01:02
tech9inerso..01:02
tech9inerhow doth one work round this bugger please..01:02
tech9inerthanks01:02
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tech9iner??? is not in the duoers file. this incident will be reported.... is all im getting mates..01:03
Macehow come ubuntu installation doesnt let me choose which PARTITION to install in, but only HARD DRIVE?01:03
theinepschulz01, a simple "apt-get install sshfs" will get you in shape01:03
mweMace: it does. just don't choose default01:03
michael__what line do I add to sources.list to make it look on the install CD????01:04
pschulz01theine: On the client or server?01:04
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janoliapt-cdrom add creo pschulz0101:04
janolii think01:04
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tech9ineri need root access to reset or edit installation cd's 1st username / pw config i buggered..01:05
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pschulz01janoli: ???01:05
theinepschulz01, on the client01:05
edoardoyou guys01:05
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michael__E: Type 'apt-cdrom' is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list01:05
edoardodo you have a scsi.rc file in your system?01:05
wogimwe: do yo uthink the --nocheck option from dpkg-deb might help me?01:06
joannehaving trouble with dual booot of ubuntu and os 9 yaboot configured  to dual boot added the line macos line and ran ybin? hit m in yaboot promt and go to flashing qestion mark.01:06
joanneanybody know what to do?01:06
michael__can ne1 help me?01:07
wogimichael: Uhm. I'm really a bad person to get help from. but can you comment out that line for now?01:07
pschulz01theine: That works better  :-)01:07
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michael__I need the debconf package - how can i get it installed?01:08
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Monkhi people. Now I know this is a seemingly random question, but... does anyone know anyone in Poland?01:08
crimsunmichael__: install it.01:08
wogimichael__: Can you do apt-get update, apt-get install debconf?01:08
michael__http://pastebin.com/49856001:08
theinepschulz01, yeah, I felt that I was living under rock when I learned that sshfs existed...01:09
mwewogi: try it01:09
Monkpreferably linux fans01:09
michael__there's my problem -^ that link01:09
naliothjoanne: what line did you add in yaboot.conf for macos ?01:09
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joannethe line that is in the yaboot file suggested with partiton # for os 9 location01:09
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edoardocan anyone help me settin' hotplug up?01:10
Monkno Polish conections?01:10
naliothjoanne: can you pastebin your yaboot.conf and the output of "sudo fdisk -l" please01:10
gah000what is the program for partitioning01:10
joannei'll try will take me a bit01:10
naliothgah000: you can use gparted01:10
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gah000thanks01:10
LiNoHdoes somebody help me please..01:11
mwe!helpme01:11
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.01:11
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michael__!helpme - question above01:11
ubotumichael__: I give up, what is it?01:11
LiNoHif i use hoary, i can upgrade it to breezy only changing repositories?01:11
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wogimichael__: Eep. I wonder what is in that file /var/lib/dpkg/status ?01:11
michael__hon, i get01:11
hikenbootis there an environment variable for specifying the python version such as export python=python2.3  ?01:11
mweLiNoH: you should be able to01:12
naliothhikenboot: there is if you specify one01:12
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mweLiNoH: it broke for me though01:12
allan_hey, is there a python IDE preinstalled on Ubuntu?01:12
hikenbootwhat do you mean nalioth...?01:12
mweallan_: not preinstalled I think01:13
hikenbootwhat is the environment variable ????01:13
naliothhikenboot: you have a .bashrc in your home directory. you can set any environment variables there that you desire01:13
Cintiahello: How Can I configure my linux as client??????01:13
allan_is there one you can download? if so, whats the name?01:13
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mweCintia: client for what?01:13
Cintianetwork01:13
naliothallan_: 'eric' is in the repos01:13
hikenbootright i realize that but  i am trying to specify one specifically for python...so would the varialble be called python ?01:13
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LiNoHhow is the most secure method to upgrade hoary to breezy? if i use only hoary repositories i will de updated? or the breezy has latest packs and hoary not?01:14
Cintiathe pc w winxp will be the server01:14
mweCintia: you want to mount a windows share or what?01:14
naliothhikenboot: idk about python stuff, you may google "export python bashrc" or something like that01:14
hikenbootok thanks01:14
naliothubotu: tell LiNoH about breezy01:14
CintiaI want to linux x xp in network01:14
wogimwe: Ok. I noticed in upper right corner that I had updates. Clicked on it and it told me to update postgres. Exclaimed "Oh i found a broken pkg!" did some stuff, and now the problem is all gone.. I wonder if I dare try uninstalling postgres. . . >:)01:14
Cintiaand share the internet connection01:14
Cintiabut the dsl modem is connected to the xp01:15
LiNoHnalioth: thakns01:15
LiNoHthanks*01:15
madewokherdhikenboot: you can use $PYTHONSTARTUP to specify a file that python executes when it starts01:15
mweCintia: well configure windows and you dhclient from linux I guess01:15
allan_what exactly are universe and multiverse?01:15
Cintiashould be samba,shouldn't it?01:15
mwewogi: oh01:15
naliothallan_: repositories holding packages with non free /other patent encumbered pkgs01:15
CintiaI have another computer w xp conected to the server01:16
mwewogi: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade would probably have fixed it then01:16
allan_when i was looking at installing some things, it said make sure to install universe/multiverse first01:16
CintiaI just need to set the linux. I was told I had to set the samba01:16
mwewogi: I thinks it's safe to sudo apt-get remove postgresql now01:16
allan_is there a point to that?01:16
wogimwe: i So love this distribution.01:17
irvinallan_, yes there is01:17
cyphaseat the end of an article about Vista at CES01:17
cyphase"But I think that what most people want from the next Windows isn't more stuff added, but rather stuff to be taken away--like crashes, lockups, viruses, error messages and security holes."01:17
allan_does it cost money though?01:17
mwewogi: did you interupt apt or synaptic at some point since it broke?01:17
naliothallan_: yes, you'll need universe and multiverse, they offer over 10,000 more programs for you01:17
naliothallan_: no it does not.01:17
irvinallan_, no it's comes free of charge01:17
navaronewogi...this beats the socks off any mandrake I have used (dunno if that says much tho...)01:17
wogimwe: I don't think so. But I went to apt-get remove postgres I'm back to cannot open somesuch file, it isn't there.  hehe interesting.01:18
allan_so you guys recommend installing universe and multiverse anyways?01:18
LiNoHwhy ubuntu don't create a central repository? like debian (stable/testing/unstable)01:18
Cintiathat is it?01:18
mwewogi: annoying01:18
navaroneallan you don't install universe and multiverse...you enable them so that you can install packages that are in those repos01:18
wogimwe: so I try to remove it, and now the gforge-db-postgresql errors are back, but in the upper right hand corner is that red icon that I'm sure when I click on is going to tell me to update postgres..01:18
mwewogi: and you can't sudo apt-get --reinstall install it?01:19
naliothallan_: yes, certainly enable uni and multi01:19
LiNoHinstead of a rep to wwarty, other to hoary, other to breezy..01:19
allan_ohhhh01:19
allan_ok01:19
allan_thanks a lot01:19
naliothLiNoH: because we're not debian01:19
navaroneallan multi and uni have a lot of packages that you may find useful or neccessary01:19
mwewogi: maybe try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:19
LiNoHbut i didnt want to say to be a debian..01:20
LiNoHbut to create a central repository with all upgrades01:20
Cintiasomebody here knows how to set a network - linux x windows?01:20
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allan_one question though, why do they call multiverse non free?01:20
michaelsorry, got disconnected01:20
Need_urgent_helphi, anyone got a sec?01:21
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michaelwhere was i?01:21
michaelheck, i'll find it01:21
gpmhey folks. i was wondering if i might be able to get a newer version of logjam here on breezy? the one i have doesn't do tags. yes i've updated and dist-upgraded01:21
navaroneallan probably because the licences for the software in multi are not covered under gpl or open source agreements...so they are not technically free01:22
madewokherdallan_: I would assume they mean it's not free software (which means more than being available free of charge)01:22
mwewogi: then sudo apt-get --reinstall install postgresql. did you try that. then sudo apt-get --purge remove postgresql01:22
LiNoHwhy i cant change resolution to 1024x768? i edited xorg.conf but it don't supports.. ubuntu was the only that didnt supported.. kubuntu breezy supported too01:22
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LiNoHit was because was ubuntu live?01:22
navaronemadewokherd, your nick is gonna give me nightmares...<s>01:22
mwe!tell LiNoH about fixres01:22
wogimwe: actually the update/dist-upgrade did Not work (just fyi)01:22
Need_urgent_helpwhat do you do if X wont start, and you cant even login?01:22
madewokherdwhat's wrong with woks?01:22
mweLiNoH: read /msg from ubotu01:23
mwewogi: what failed?01:23
mwewogi: pastebin errors01:23
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joanne## yaboot.conf generated by the Ubuntu installer01:24
joanne##01:24
joanne## run: "man yaboot.conf" for details. Do not make changes until you have!!01:24
joanne## see also: /usr/share/doc/yaboot/examples for example configurations.01:24
joanne##01:24
joanne## For a dual-boot menu, add one or more of:01:24
joanne## bsd=/dev/hdaX, macos=/dev/hdaY, macosx=/dev/hdaZ01:24
joanneboot=/dev/hda601:24
joannedevice=/pci@80000000/mac-io@10/ide@20000/disk@0:01:24
joannepartition=801:24
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wogimwe what does that mean, pastebin errors?01:24
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mwe!tell wogi about pastebin01:24
mwewogi: read /msg from ubotu01:24
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naliothCintia: ask in the channel please, i don't accept PMs01:25
CintiaI've asked many times01:25
mweCintia: you shouldn't pm without permission no matter what01:26
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Cintiawhat?01:26
naliothCintia: we are not ignoring you, but if you get no answers, it's highly likely nobody knows atm01:26
damotorhello01:26
kairu0i have an irq sharing problem. my sound and network card want to share the same irq. how can i fix this?01:26
gpmis dapper safe to use? more or less?01:26
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Cintiaok guys, tks anyway01:27
naliothgpm: not for your production machine, no01:27
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damotordo u know how can I convert from a firewire video source (/dev/raw1394) to a v4l source (/dev/video0)?01:27
holy_cowdapper installer is weird, lots of strange errors *hmmm*01:27
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gpmnalioth: so, it's more or less like using sid on debian?01:27
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holy_cowtime to help out with some of the bugs01:27
wogimwe: I think you want this?: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/685901:27
joanne        #                    type name                 length   base     ( size )  system01:27
joanne/dev/hda1     Apple_partition_map Apple                    63 @ 1        ( 31.5k)  Partition map01:27
joanne/dev/hda2        Apple_Driver_ATA Macintosh                54 @ 64       ( 27.0k)  Unknown01:27
joanne/dev/hda3        Apple_Driver_ATA Macintosh                74 @ 118      ( 37.0k)  Unknown01:27
joanne/dev/hda4      Apple_Driver_IOKit Macintosh               512 @ 192      (256.0k)  Unknown01:27
joanne/dev/hda5           Apple_Patches Patch Partition         512 @ 704      (256.0k)  Unknown01:27
joanne/dev/hda6         Apple_Bootstrap untitled               1954 @ 1216     (977.0k)  NewWorld bootblock01:27
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mwenalioth: thanks01:28
naliothjoanne: visit paste.ubuntulinux.nl and paste both of those things please01:28
naliothubotu: tell joanne about paste01:28
naliothjoanne: or the URL ubotu just sent you01:28
MrRioanyone know how to make java apps take on my gtk theme like they do in fedora?01:29
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martin_Need some help - I messed up: I was trying to make an ext2 volume that I plugged in writable, so I typed "sudo chmod og=rw /mnt/data"...  Now I can only see the top level directory and files but the system does not know what they are, so it seems that I have lost all of the data on that drive.  How can I fix this?01:29
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MattwestMok, what do I need to put in the grub.conf file to get ubuntu 5.10 to boot. I just installed it and I am using Fedora's grub01:30
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mwewogi: now that postgresql is installed try apt-get dist-upgrade again01:30
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wogimwe: It says its up to date. :)01:32
mwewogi: so no broken things anymore I guess?01:33
StringBladeall: a little help with apt-get and python2.4?  I screwed up and got rid of python2.4 and now it says it can't configure it if I try to install again01:33
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naliothStringBlade: in a terminal, type "sudo apt-get -f install"01:33
wogimwe: hehe until I type apt-get remove gforge-db-postgres or apt-get remove postgres i imagine.01:33
mwewogi: go ahead and apt-get remove gforge-db-postgresql if you like01:33
mwewogi: I doubt it will break now01:34
mwewogi: if it does pastebin the errors01:34
StringBladenalioth: says 0 packages to upgrade01:34
wogimwe: au contraire.01:34
wogimwe: mkay.01:34
sexcopter8000mif i have a mass of files in a hierarchy of folders, is there a means of finding duplicates? i mean like spotting identical md5sums or something?01:34
naliothStringBlade: then "sudo apt-get -f install python2.4" or w/e the name of the pkg was01:34
LiNoHwhere goes window border themes in home folder?01:34
LiNoHicons to .icons.. themes to .themes..01:35
StringBlade> Compiling python modules in /usr/lib/python2.4 ...01:35
StringBlade> /usr/bin/python2.4: can't open file '/usr/lib/python2.4/compileall.py': [Errno 2]  No such file or directory01:35
wogimwe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/686101:35
holy_cowhttp://www.linuxedge.org/?q=node/40  <-- filezilla on linux?01:35
MattwestMall: ok, what do I need to put in the grub.conf file to get ubuntu 5.10 to boot. I just installed it and I am using Fedora's grub01:35
holy_cowoh thats neat, finally a competitor to gftp01:35
naliothStringBlade: sudo apt-get install --reinstall python2.401:35
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StringBladenalioth: same problem01:35
michaelhttp://pastebin.com/498560 - http://pastebin.com/49860701:36
StringBladenalioth: clearly it's missing something it needs and doesn't know how to install it01:36
naliothStringBlade: i'm out of ideas at this point.01:36
michaeladding "1.13.10 (i386)" to version01:36
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mwewogi: this is getting over my head. maybe nailoth knows. it looks like it expects postgresql to be running I don't know if starting postgresql would help01:37
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tonisiushow do i not use sudo?01:37
tonisiusi want to use the real su01:37
StringBladenalioth: got it...sudo apt-get --reinstall python2.4-minimal01:37
SeveasStringBlade, did you install python2.4-dev?01:37
tonisiusand what the hell is the password to get on as root?01:37
athlontonisius, sudo su01:38
mwewogi: is this breezy?01:38
tonisiusno01:38
tonisiuswithout using sudo01:38
tonisiusis there a such thing?01:38
athlonsudo su then passwd01:38
tonisiusno01:38
tonisiuswithout using sudo01:38
naliothubotu: tell tonisius about root01:38
wogimwe: yes breezy badger.01:38
naliothtonisius: read your PM from ubotu01:38
tonisiusnalioth: thank you01:38
Seveaswogi, is gforge-db-postgresql still running?01:38
Seveaswogi, if not: start it01:38
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Seveasen then try the removal01:39
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wogiSeveas: Welll.. I'm not really sure how to start it. It was a component of gforge. Which Never installed properly.01:39
Seveaswogi, ah01:39
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wogiSeveas: I can try starting Postgres tho.01:39
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Seveaswogi, please do01:39
SeveasI think that's the problem01:39
wogiseveas: alright its failing to start. Let me check the logs.01:40
zblachhi. quick question. my keyboard is not listed under keyboard layout options. can I add it somehow?01:40
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cozhey guys01:40
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wogiseveas: hmm.. tcp/ip connections must be enabled for ssl.... I wonder if it wants me to open up my firewall for postgres ports..01:41
MattwestM all: ok, what do I need to put in the grub.conf file to get ubuntu 5.10 to boot. I just installed it and I am using Fedora's grub01:41
cozI have an old hp 820c deskjet printer that is recognized by ubuntu but will not work] 01:41
cozany suggestions01:41
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fm-2Good evening all!01:41
zblachregardless of what I try, i still have half a dozen dead keys01:42
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fm-2I was wondering if someone could help me with a boot-up script. Mainly, at what S* is the filesystem (/proc/) mounted?01:42
Seveasfm-2, my guess is mountall.sh in rcS.d01:43
zblachand the kb is brand new01:43
freak_anyone know where the ubuntu equivelent of the xinitrc file is?01:43
joannei pasted it over where you said nalioth, but i don't know what happens to it or to me then. do i go over there to see a response or hang out here?01:44
naliothjoanne: bring us the URL to the page you pasted it into01:44
fm-2Seveas: right, and S7xorg-common is what starts up X, right?01:44
fm-2(add a 0 after S7)01:44
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tonisiusnalioth: thanks for the link, now i can do things as needed01:45
joanneokay here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/686201:45
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freak_anyone know where xinitrc is? the X11 startup list01:45
theverantso... ok... I'm trying out this Ubuntu thing... why did install not let me pick what packages I installed?01:45
kameronxfce is part of what package?01:45
freak_kameron, xfce401:45
bimberikameron: xfce401:45
kameronfreak_, thank you muchly01:45
fm-2theverant: Because Ubuntu only installs a base-system.01:45
Seveaskameron, xubuntu-desktop01:46
theverantuhh... how is Gnome games part of a base system though?01:46
fm-2theverant: You can use Synaptic to change your install (sudo synaptic)01:46
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wogiSeveas: Hmm.. It looks like I need to have some SSH keys configured before it will start..01:46
theverantis that at install time?01:46
wogiSeveas: You're pretty sure this might be it?01:46
theverantor afterwards01:46
fm-2theverant: Beats me, I guess it's a 'basic operational system' :P01:46
freak_anyone know where xinitrc is?01:46
kameron!xubuntu-desktop01:46
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, kameron01:46
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navaronejoanne you are ona  mac right?01:47
kameronwhat's in that package other than just xfce, seveas?01:47
bimberitheverant: gnome is part of the default desktop install01:47
Seveaswogi, postgres should not need that...01:47
fm-2brb, gonna see if this mtrr fix works.01:47
theverantmy other question was - why no root password?01:47
naliothjoanne: is this a new world mac?01:47
bimberitheverant: but not the "server" install01:47
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joanneyes imac g3 333 tray loader01:47
bimberiubotu tell theverant about root01:47
Seveas!tell theverant about root01:47
nalioththeverant: security reason01:47
kamerontheverant, sevurity reasons.01:47
wogiSeveas: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/interactive/ssl-tcp.html01:47
mwewogi: you can't dpkg --force-all --purge gforge-db-postgresql then dpkg --force-all --purge postgresql to get rid of it?01:47
Seveastheverant, read the wikipage ubotu sends01:47
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joanneyes new world01:47
theverantah ok, thanks!01:47
Seveasah, ss*L* keys01:47
naliothjoanne: can you access os9 by holding the alt-option key and selecting the os9 partition?01:47
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Seveasbtw, I work with 7.4, not 8 :/01:47
freak_anyone know where the X11 startup program list is? (xinit)01:47
wogiSeveas: Thats where I'm getting the idea from, because the only thing in the postgres logs when it failed when I trie dto start it was: /usr/lib/postgresql/7.4/bin/postmaster: TCP/IP connections must be enabled for SSL01:48
theverantthis channel is way more active than #mandriva (the last distro I tested out)01:48
joanneyou mean when i start up?01:48
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fm-2theverant: Welcome to Ubuntu :)01:48
theveranttanx01:48
theverantI'm still not %100 sure about linux01:48
theverantbut after a month windows free it's hard to justify going back, despite the quirks I'm finding01:49
gratefulwhat command do you issue to tell ubuntu where your dvd drive is?01:49
mwewogi: you can't dpkg --force-all --purge gforge-db-postgresql then dpkg --force-all --purge postgresql to get rid of it?01:49
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fm-2grateful: sudo mount?01:49
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wogimwe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/686301:49
bimberifreak_: locate xinit    ?01:49
navaronethereverant> I still use windows for some things...but I check maila nd do most surfing in ubuntu now...feels safer01:49
CosmoDadwhat would I need to do to make another user be capable of shutting down the machine, going into standby, etc. without him being able to sudo to root?01:49
freak_bimberi, locate is a command?01:50
gratefulbut how do you create the link to your DVD01:50
naliothjoanne: yes, when the chime sounds, hold the alt-option key until you get boot options01:50
bimberifreak_: yes01:50
theverantnavarone - dual boot is not an option for me01:50
wogiSeveas: heh ooops. yeah..01:50
fm-2grateful: It's there... after mount, it'll be in the /media/ folder01:50
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theverantI want something fully functional or not at all01:50
wogiSeveas: Let me try to figure out how to make these key things, and i'll get back to you..01:50
gratefulk thx01:50
fm-2grateful: /media/cdrom, I do believe01:50
navaronethereverant...then you have come to the right place for guidance then should you need it01:50
MrRiograteful: doesnt it do this 'automagicaly'?01:50
mwewogi: what the heck. it's like a virus it wont go away :|01:50
Seveaswogi, probably not, I'm goging to sleep :)01:50
joanneokay i'll try that and come back thanks01:50
gratefulchecking01:51
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bimberiCosmoDad: you can configure sudo to only work for particular commands - man sudoers (although google will be a better option)01:51
wogiSeveas: Probably not..?01:51
wogiSeveas: Oh, and thanks for the help, goodnight!01:51
mwewogi: I know you can manually manipulate the apt database but I don't know how or if you dare do it01:51
theverantIs Dapper Drake stable?  It's what I've installed... I guess I'll find out the hard way :)01:51
CodenameKT!dapper01:52
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.01:52
bimberitheverant: no - you are now an alpha tester :)01:52
wogimwe: :/ I really love this computer. except for this weird thing.. I could probbbably just live with postgres on there..but..urgh. kinda irritating huh.01:52
theverantso pretty much like running WinXP, eh01:52
bimberilol01:52
nics_theverant: depends what you use it for, fine for me at present though flashplayer plugin for firefox nows causes it to crash01:52
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CosmoDadbimberi: that wouldn't make the shutdown options show up in KDE's menu, unfortunately01:52
theverantnics_ - I want to use it for GIMP mostly01:52
wogimwe: You mentioned someone you thought might have ideas..? nalioth ?01:53
theverantI would like to find decent video editing too, which I guess would be Cinelerra01:53
theverantother than that it's just gravy :)01:53
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naliothwogi: seveas is more knowledgable than i on this subject, but i agree with him.01:53
nics_theverant: has been fine for me with gimp, though just down screenshots and a few touchups, the thing to remember is that is is ALPHA, all bets are off :-)01:53
bimberiCosmoDad: no, it's about access to shell command.  Not sure about how _that's_ done sorry01:53
theverantnics_ -praps I should go back to last stable01:53
theverantwhich uses less resources - Gnome or KDE?01:54
CosmoDadbimberi: yeah I know, I just wanna restrict root right but enable hibernating. anyways, thx01:54
nics_theverant: always an option or just make sure you save all work often just in case, filesystems are rock solid but the odd app may suddenly break as things get upgraded, like flash in firefox at present01:55
woginalioth: mkay. But he's sleeping. :)01:55
MrRiotheverant: my opinion is gnome, but the differences in resouces are negligable01:55
bimberitheverant: another video editor is kino01:55
naliothwogi: he answered you with the same things i would have01:55
MrRiothe clearlooks theme engine on gnome (ubuntu default) is lightning fast01:55
theverantbimberi - I don't think Kino will cut it for my uses :)01:55
theverantthough I heard Cinelerra sux for capture, so I will probably use it for that01:56
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freak_anyone know if you can pass terminal command in the fluxbox init file?01:56
bimberitheverant: k :)01:56
theverantbimberi - I like compositing and special effects :)01:56
woginalioth: to get postgres starting properly, and then to try removing it again, right..?01:56
CodenameKTfreak_: i pass some term commands through the style01:56
CodenameKTfreak_: the default style that loads01:56
hikenbootanyone know what the python-dev package is I did an sudo apt-cache search python  | grep -i dev and dont see one01:57
naliothfreak_: in your init "bash command_goes_here &"01:57
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navaronetheverant, do you have enough free space for that kind of work...for swap I mean?01:57
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freak_CodenameKT, so like "bash pypanel &" ?01:57
CodenameKTfreak_: yes that is what nalioth said01:58
theverantnavarone - I have a WD Raptor for system, a 200GB, and a removable 250GB that I can swap in as many drives as I need for backup purposes... so... yes... I think... :)01:58
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bimberi!info python-dev01:58
ubotupython-dev: (Header files and a static library for Python (default)), section python, is optional. Version: 2.4.2-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 48 kB01:58
hikenbootsorry mean glibc-dev what an idiot01:58
CodenameKTfreak_: basically bash is letting it know it is term command and then u have the command plus & to let it know to keep reading rest of file01:58
hikenbootalready found the python ones01:58
freak_CodenameKT, sorry, all i saw was red from xchat, didn't realize i was getting replies from 2 people01:58
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theverantright now my actual swap size is not huge, but I can fix that if I need to01:58
firebird619I installed Ubuntu 5.10 about a month or so ago. I installed it over 5.04. Since then it seems that Ubuntu is slower than it was before the upgrade. Would it have been better to do a clean install of 5.10 rather than installing it over 5.04?01:58
navaronetheverant, I'll be waiting to see your first feature...lol01:59
CodenameKTfreak_: My reply sounded rude but yeah I was implying that it wasn't me with the correct answer :o)01:59
freak_CodenameKT, & really means run as background process :-p, heh01:59
theverantnavarone - I make shorts :) you'll be waiting a while :)01:59
holy_cowbtw dudes, ubuntu breezy is a smash success in our pilot.  just got back our reports, they only complaint at all has been that they arent' familiar with open office01:59
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holy_cowfor us we can just upgrade to ubuntu from windows and no ones the wiser essentially02:00
holy_cowyey for mark and the ubuntu team :)02:00
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navaronetheverant, animated or real life?02:00
CodenameKTfreak_: I thought it was a continue or like an and so that it keeps reading the next lines like if I were to have two commands i needed to run02:00
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punkrockguy318How can I change the usplash decoration from kubuntu to ubuntu?02:00
theverantnavarone - real life in the past, but I'm working on a stop motion animation right now02:00
theverantit's a surreal character sketch02:00
boxyhey if i compile my own kernel say 2.6.15 i wont have a problem with the modules in the repos such as nvidia will i?02:01
navaronekinda like wallace and grommit...?02:01
naliothfirebird619: it really should make no difference (this isnt windows)02:01
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naliothboxy: you will probably have to recompile all modules02:01
theverantmore like the Quay brothers... not so cutesie02:01
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freak_CodenameKT, nah, its pretty cool, if you have 5 programs on startup, without the "&" with the first 4 it would just hang on each till you closed it, its basically multitasking02:01
firebird619nalioth: Yes, I know it isn't windows, it's much better than Windows, but I thought I would ask. Thanks02:02
punkrockguy318Will using a USB hub decrease USB preformance?02:02
theverantthe protagonist sees Uncle Sam cut off Barbies face in a dark alley in one scene... :o !!02:02
naliothfirebird619: i've been running the same homedir since warty warthog, and havent had any trouble02:02
boxynalioth, can i have apt-get do that and btw im trying to build a module and it fails at make before it even starts i take it im misisng some packages?02:02
holy_cowpunkrockguy318, there is very little you can do to saturate a usb 2.0 port ... unless you are streaming video over it you don't have much to worry about02:03
naliothboxy: have you gotten "build-essential" ?02:03
joannecan't get into 9 using alt/opt key at start up, selected the m and still go to folder with question mark. this morning i booted from os 9 cd. i do not have the disk selected as startup disk and in order to see anything on the desktop i had to mount the disk. it is a clean install and i have run the assistant for any apps. and more suggestions?02:03
bimberitheverant: LOL (but offtopic)02:03
navaronetheverant, going for the heavy symbolism eh?02:03
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joannecorrection i have NOT run the assistant02:03
B1zzhello all i am trying to add a printer to my ubuntu system, how do i get the system to read the printer?02:03
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theverantnavarone - very much so.  All the character the protagonist comes across are actually extensions of his own persona02:04
theverantbimberi - sorry :)02:04
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naliothjoanne: did the OS9 start before you did the yaboot modifications?02:04
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bimberitheverant: np :)02:05
navaroneOkay i am off to play Halo...if I see barbie I'll let her know you need her on set theverant ... : )02:05
navaronecya folkies take care02:05
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B1zzhello all i am trying to add a printer to my ubuntu system, how do i get the system to read the printer?02:06
joanneyes, well actually i didn't go back into it after i installed 9. i just went ahead and installed ubuntu.02:06
theverantooo it's the leaders debate... time to decide who to vote for in 14 days02:06
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bimberiB1zz: System -> Administration -> Printing02:06
naliothjoanne: perhaps something went awry during the installation(s) ?02:06
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joannethis is probably my 5th attempt to get both going together. the install of 9 proceed without incident? and so did ubuntu.02:07
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bobbyI ned to know how to install via graphics drivers under linux02:07
naliothjoanne: did you load os9 before you installed ubuntu?02:07
bobbyis there a package for it?02:08
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joanneyes02:08
naliothjoanne: did you run "sudo ybin" ?02:08
joanneyes, after i change the yaboot conf02:08
DoomhammerWhy am I getting "Packet filtered" when attempting to ping some sites on the internet?02:08
waxedanyone here tried salome-platform an sucessfully installed it?...need som help here...02:08
Doomhammeri can ping www.google.com, but not www.newegg.com for example02:09
naliothjoanne: then you've puzzled me.02:09
joanneoh dear02:09
bobbyDoomhammer, because the packet is filtered by a router along the way02:09
joannei'm new to mac as well as linux02:09
Doomhammerbobby: as in my dsl gateway / router ?02:09
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naliothjoanne: if you hold the alt-option key right after the chime, and don't have the option for os9 and linux, then perhaps the os9 partition got borked somehow?02:09
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bobbyDoomhammer, that is possible yes02:09
joanneshould i go into 9 and let it be a startup disk?02:09
wogiAlright, thanks for all your help guys.. For some reason my postgres key and cert aren't really working so I can't start up pg but I need to get going for now. Thanks again!02:10
Doomhammerbobby: what else could it be ?02:10
boxynalioth, yes build-essential is installed02:10
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naliothboxy: more information is needed (keep pastebin in mind)02:10
bobbyDoomhammer, some isp's do it to avoid DDoS (a type of attack) attacks from happening from within their network02:10
joannemaybe start over. actually i'm waiting for 10.3 to arrive, and fear that's when trouble really starts02:10
naliothjoanne: i thought you said you couldnt get into os9?02:10
boxyoh wait nvm i see the prob sry Nakkel02:11
boxynalioth, * sorry autocomplete02:11
bobbyDoomhammer, if you got your dsl router preconfigured from your isp give them a ring and check it isn't a setting they have put in02:11
joannei can get in using install disk02:11
boxykay maybe i dont02:11
boxywait02:11
boxyyeah02:11
boxyhaha02:11
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Doomhammerbobby: i got it preconfigured, but it's been reset and changed since...02:11
naliothjoanne: but that doesnt help your apparent yaboot prob02:11
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Doomhammerbobby: i configured it myself, it's no longer using the factory defaults02:11
Doomhammerbobby: although, it is a piece of crap (actiontec) :O02:11
boxyhrm maybe not nalioth make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.02:11
zblachi know its a msft keyboard, but...02:11
bobbyDoomhammer, then I suggest it isn't your router then - unless this started since you configured it yourself02:11
Doomhammerbobby: no, it didn't start, i haven't changed the config for months02:12
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joannei know i wish i could figure out what's going wrong, when it appears to be set up correctly02:12
naliothboxy: you'll need linux-source and kernel-headers, moste likely02:12
bobbythough it wouldn't be a linux problem unless you were running smoothwall or some thing... depends on your personal setup02:12
Doomhammerbobby: i'm thinking it might have something to do with my attempts to get networking running via QEMU02:12
bobbyask your isp is the easiest solution :)02:12
P-NuTHey all can I ask questions about dapper drake here?02:12
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boxyPackage linux-source is a virtual package provided by:02:12
boxy  linux-source-2.6.12 2.6.12-10.2502:12
bobbyDoomhammer, I've never had that problem before...and I've stuffed up networking many a time under qemu :P02:12
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boxywhich one i have 2.6.12-10 idk about .25 though?02:13
Doomhammerbobby: could "/sbin/ifconfig $1 172.20.0.1" be the culprit ?02:13
robertjP-NuT: this is _the_ place02:13
P-NuTLOL02:13
P-NuTok02:13
bobbyDoomhammer, does it happen for all things you ping in and outside your network?"02:13
Doomhammerbobby: no, as far as I can tell only www.newegg.com :S02:13
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bobbyDoomhammer, mmm confusing...out of ideas sorry - though I doubt it could be that ifconfig line02:14
P-NuTkickstart files and ubuntu, I want to make an CD that installs ubuntu and then installs a bunch of stuff via scripts. Can I include the kickstarat file on the CD?02:14
naliothboxy: linux-source reflects your current kernel, iirc02:14
boxy2.6.12-10-68602:14
P-NuTinstead of using install CD and flopy with kickstart?02:14
Doomhammerbobby: yeah, it's almost certainly only newegg (216.52.208.185)... yahoo, google, dogpile, digg, and the verizon dns servers (4.2.2.1 + 4.2.2.2) all work :S02:14
joannenaioth, thanks for suggestions and letting me know what to do with paste bin etc. tomorrow is another day with new ideas maybe.02:15
Doomhammerbobby: maybe i'll try resetting eth0... :S02:15
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naliothjoanne: yes it is02:15
joannegot to go for food, before it's time for indigestion. see again i hope02:15
Doomhammerbobby: nope, still the same thing02:15
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bobbyDoomhammer, just tried from here and I get packet filtered as well...I would suggest it is a routing issue or a anti-DDoS messaure on their end02:16
Doomhammerbobby: ah, good, so it's not my problem then. thanks :)02:16
bobbyDoomhammer, I don't think it has anything to do with you :)02:16
bobbyany time02:16
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p337So, i got my sound and wireless drivers installed yesterday, they were working great.... i turn on my computer today............ neither works... why would that happen?02:18
drcurlHello, I installed Ubuntu today and I'm impressed by the fact that everything works on my laptop :D02:19
duckdownHey all.. I need to have /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build, but it doesn't exist on my new install.. what package do I need for those?02:19
drcurlBut i have a few issues02:19
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bobbydrcurl, list them and we'll try to help :)02:19
robotgeekduckdown, sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)02:19
boxynalioth, what should i do about this i guess breezy installs gcc 4.0 by default but these modules want 3.402:19
duckdownrobotgeek: ahhh linux-headers.. perfect, thanks man02:19
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naliothboxy: install gcc-3.402:20
drcurlWhy is it so SLOW! I installed sarge wich have gnome 2.8. Under Deb, it uses about 80 megs of ram and was very fast, now, it's more 170 megs of ram and much slower to start and often slow down02:20
boxyi can have both and it wont cause a problem02:20
naliothboxy: you can have as many versions of gcc as you like02:21
nailbiterboxy: On Ubuntu, /usr/bin/gcc is a symlink to gcc-4.0; installing gcc-3.4 won't change that at all.02:21
boxyah02:21
bobbyoh silly ubuntu...who released it without it having traceroute preinstalled?02:21
nailbiterboxy: Instead, you may have to set CC (or HOSTCC) to gcc-3.4 to specify a particular version02:21
HaiKarateboxy : yeah for totally homey! use CC environment variable to determine your preferred version and shizzle02:21
boxyna it works now02:21
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bobbyunder debian we just change the gcc symlinks02:22
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Xenguybobby: I like mtr instead :-)02:22
sambagirli am an kubuntu user now since i get the cds in the mail.  It's a wonderful environment.  It has revolutoinized things, but there is just 1 problem with ubuntu, there needs to be a video for to learn how to use things in it.  It's so frustrating to have to type so much in shells when you just dont have permissions on your own computer to move from 1 folder something to the other. So i am going to make available free like ubuntu simple02:22
sambagirlhe end of month.02:22
bobbymtr? never tried it *does*02:22
bimberibobby: there is tracepath02:22
drcurlIn addition, OpenOffice start at least 4 time slower than under slackware :|02:22
bobbyXenguy, to bulky for the task we use it for02:22
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sambagirldoes this sound like a good idea or not?02:22
Xenguybobby: heh02:23
boxytheres finally people in here that have given me intelligent answers <3 lol02:23
Suki`woah does exist.02:23
bobbytracepath is good though02:23
adilsoni need some help to set my evolution to use a gmail account, can someone help me?02:23
Suki`okay, someone mind helping me with a compiling problem?02:23
nailbitersambagirl: You want to make a set of training videos for Kubuntu?02:23
bobbyboxy, this is ubuntu...don't expect people here to know much outside the gui lol :P02:23
drcurlbobby, is it nromal that ubuntu is so slow?02:23
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boxyheh bobby02:23
sambagirlyes you need smomething this is to nuts otherwise.02:23
bobbydrcurl, not at all...what cpu/ram do you have?02:23
drcurlcentrino 1.4 ghz02:24
drcurl256 ram02:24
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nailbiteradilson: gmail provides POP-3 access; just create an Evolution account with that02:24
boxyspeaking of which bobby i've been using the command prompt mostly anywas cause im use to it from gentoo and all this automation isn't helping. lo02:24
sambagirlneeds to be for all parts, setting up samba, apache, how to move a directory, what is a permissoin how does it look what are simple commands. things nobody knows like me.02:24
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bobbydrcurl, do you ahve all of the gnome updates installed for ubuntu? and your graphics card setup correctly02:24
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zblachgoogle doesn't seem to have much in the way of help. found a review and some tech. stuff I couldn't understand02:24
robotgeekadilson: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/t41552-the-complete-guide-to-using-gmail-with-thunderbird-mozilla-mail-evolution-and-kmail.html first link on google02:25
duckdownSorry, I'm also missing all of my compilers and such after a brand new install, is there a major apt-get install I have to do?02:25
TokenBadis it easy to setup vhost on ubuntu?02:25
XIIIhi, how can i use broken filter?02:25
boxyI dont think ima be staying on ubuntu for much longer02:25
drcurlbobby, yes, I like the way that ubuntu works perfectly, but it is so much slower than slack or debian, mainly to start app, I can't accept that :|02:25
bobbyboxy, not a fan of a lot of the ubuntu automation (makes it hard for me to help in here cause I do most things from the cli) though it is great for users like my mother and father ^_^ ...though I'm happy sticking with debian02:25
duckdownI only used the 650MB image02:25
Riddellsambagirl: you got kubuntu CDs?02:25
nailbiterduckdown: 'build-essential' is a virtual package that will pull in most of the build tools you need02:25
sambagirlnobody wants read those crpytic manuals or pdf files. anyway if anyone is interested you can email riosambagirl@yahoo.com02:25
sambagirlcya02:25
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miketechHi02:25
robotgeekduckdown: what are you compiling?02:25
boxybobby, heh02:25
duckdownnailbiter: odd, ive done build-essential..02:25
boxybobby, true that02:25
duckdownrobotgeek: ndiswrapper, and its complaining about not finding gcc-3.4 or something02:25
rabidsnailWhen I installed mysql I told it to be localhost-only, and now I want to allow all ip-addresses. How do I do this?02:26
adilsonrobotgeek,  thank you!02:26
robotgeekduckdown: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 then02:26
drcurljoin #kubuntu02:26
miketechJust one question: I'm thinking about installing an ubuntu breezy on an amd 64 server system. Is there a 64 bit version of ubuntu?02:26
nailbiterduckdown: That's in the 'gcc-3.4' package. 'gcc-4.0' is the default on Ubuntu02:26
drcurloups02:26
bobbydrcurl, mmm it shouldn't be laggy, in fact gnome 2.12 should be faster than 2.402:26
Suki`anyone know why proftpd won't seem to show up when I try "apt-get install proftpd" ?02:26
boxybobby, im thinking about going back to gentoo or maybe trying archlinux or maybe ill take debian for a spin who knows.02:26
duckdownAhhh great.  Thanks nailbiter , robotgeek .02:26
duckdownI better keep this client open :S02:26
boxybobby, wanna sell me on debian :P02:26
sambagirlif nothing else someone needs to explain the wars between gnome and kde so people know what to loook for.02:26
robotgeekmiketech: yes02:26
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drcurlgnome 2.8 under debian bobby, only use 80 megs of ram once loaded and respond faster02:27
bobbyboxy, vector, arch and debian etch/sid are very nice distros...and ubuntu is great for newer users (instead of that rpm mdk/rh/suse rubbish)02:27
HaiKarateSuki` : uhhh show up where?02:27
Suki`like02:27
MazinHow do I get amaroK to play mp3s?02:27
Suki`HaiKarate, I type apt-get install proftd and it says it couldn't find the package.02:27
TokenBadanyone know about how to do vhost on ubuntu?02:27
miketechand what is the difference? is every application working on the 64 bit machine?02:27
p337no one has a clue as to why my sound/wireless drivers would stop working after reboot?02:27
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boxythanks bobby, last question why debian over arch?02:27
miketechis there a different repository for application?02:27
HaiKarateubotu: tell Suki` about repos02:28
robotgeekp337: lsmod and see if the drivers have been loaded02:28
bobbydrcurl, sorry mate I haven't heard or seen anything even similar to your issue....and haven't had it on any of the laptops I've put ubuntu on (some that are lower speced than yours) ...maybe some one else can help02:28
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HaiKarateSuki` : you need to enable additional repositories most likely...werd!02:28
slashx1896Hey all, how do i change my default web browser?02:28
bobbyboxy, far more packages, erm...arch tends to be 'cleaner' cause it doesn't have years of dev behind it...but debian just feels better, less gritty02:28
XIIIhi, how can i use broken filter?02:28
liablep337: sudo echo rt2500 >> /etc/modules02:28
Doomhammermiketech: i tried 64-bit ubuntu for a while, but flash player isn't availible, and the one that is availible to build from source did not work after a successful build02:28
Doomhammermiketech: plus, no WINE02:28
nailbiterMazin: Are you installing KDE piecemeal (instead of a whole Kubuntu installation)?  If so, try the 'kdemultimedia' package; it'll pull in what you need to play MP3 audio and MPEG2 video02:28
p337robotgeek, ok.... let me boot linux then02:28
miketechso:02:28
Suki`HaiKarate, well, its listed as one of the packages on the website.02:29
userasroothey when i add a new user it should create a /home/user directory right?02:29
drcurlbobby, maybe I'm just used to the speed of slack02:29
p337liable... i thought i was done!02:29
Suki`Which is why I was wondering02:29
boxybobby, thanks i think ima check it out since linux has finally got my wifi down pat02:29
miketechDoomhammer, is the ubuntu 64 a different repository? all application precompiled for 64 bit?02:29
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robotgeekmiketech: apps compiled wirh 64 bit stuff, i presume. the repos are the same, apt handles it for you02:29
bobbyboxy, any good at installing viafb graphics drivers by any chance? lol02:29
Doomhammermiketech: point is, there are a few apps scattered around that don't quite work... but for the most part, 64-bit is awesome02:29
Doomhammermiketech: no, same repository, but the applications are native 64-bit02:29
p337Liable, everything was working so well..... anyways... brb...02:29
miketechhm?02:29
miketechsame repository?02:29
liablep337: all you need to do is modprobe it, i thought hotplug would do it for you..02:29
MrPocketsin some of the Ubuntu screen shots ive seen, windows in the bachground appear to be transparent. is this possible in Ubuntu?02:29
boxybobby, mmm i havn't used anything but nvidia but i can give it a whirrle where are you stuck at?02:29
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bobbydrcurl, debian is comparable to slackware speed wise, ubuntu is a bit slower (not sure why...more eyecandy? :P)02:29
slashx1896Anyone?? i wanna change my default browser.. i cant use firefox without some box popping up liek a wizard. but when i try to complete it it freazes02:29
miketechand apt can choose 32 bit or 64 bit?02:29
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timfrostSuki`, add the universe repository02:30
nailbitermiketech: Yes, Ubuntu breezy has a 64-bit build.02:30
miketechand what about security updates? debian had some problems with security updates for the 64 bit versions02:30
nailbitermiketech: But it'll still run 32-bit applications02:30
Suki`timfrost, alrighty.02:30
bobbyboxy, mmm just trying to use their install script to isntall the viafb.ko binary driver...but their script doesn't work under ubuntu and I can't fix it...I'm used to nvidia as well so I'm stuck02:30
XIIItimfrost how can i use the "broken" filter??02:30
bobbyoh well, 60hz for my eyes!02:30
rabidsnailHow to I change mysql from localhost-only to all ip-addresses allowed02:30
HaiKarateSuki` : proftpd is in universe homey!02:30
boxybobby, try m-a ?02:30
naliothXIII: open synaptic and use it02:30
bobbyma?02:30
slashx1896ugg guess no 1 knows how02:30
Doomhammernailbiter: from my 4 week or so experience with it, it will only if you use the one designed for x86_64... if you use the native k8 64 bit version, 32 bit apps will not run02:31
boxybobby, type m-a in the command prompt just like that02:31
XIIInalioth how??02:31
Suki`HaiKarate, Thanks, just one more question and im done. How to apply a root password to mysql?02:31
bobbyslashx1896, I've got no idea02:31
miketechso if i have an application, that does not work with 64 bit i can use the 32 bit version?02:31
boxybobby, its a nice little tool for compiling modules02:31
miketechor doesn't it compile at all?02:31
naliothXIII: click alt-f2 > gksudo synaptic02:31
bobbyboxy, thx, I'll try it02:31
naliothXIII: synaptic is pretty self-explanatory02:31
bobbyslashx1896, found it02:31
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bobbyslashx1896, system -> prefferences -> prefered applications02:32
userasroothey when i add a new user it should create a /home/user directory right?02:32
hikenbootwhy would i get permission denied when trying to compile with sudo ?02:32
XIIInalioth it doesn't tell anything02:32
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kameronuserasroot, yes, it should be02:32
slashx1896thanks bobby02:32
wojthow do you ssh in terminal?02:33
naliothubotu: tell XIII about synaptic02:33
wojti've used nutty for windows before02:33
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XIIInalioth i mean it dosen't solve the issue02:33
naliothXIII: i dont know what issue you have, i was just answering your 'broken packages' question02:33
rabidsnailwojt, if ssh is installed just type ssh and the url/ip address02:34
bobbylol boxy found the problem, the install script checks if it is suse, mdk, or fedora and if it isn't any of them exists02:34
bobbyhaha02:34
boxybobby, haha nice02:34
XIIInalioth the problem is:02:34
XIIIE: /var/cache/apt/archives/lilypond-data_2.6.3-9~breezy1_all.deb: subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 102:34
XIIIE: /var/cache/apt/archives/lilypond_2.6.3-9~breezy1_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 102:34
bobbyso much for clicking the 'generic linux' box02:34
boxybobby, im lookin for my debian cd i thought i had a recent one but i can only find 3.0 r102:34
HaiKarateSuki` : sudo mysqladmin -u root password "your_password_for_root"  werd!02:34
XIIIi can't install or remove this songwriter02:34
naliothXIII: in a terminal, type "sudo apt-get -f install"02:34
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bobbyboxy, even if you had sarge it is still a huge 500meg+ update to etch or sid02:35
XIIIi did nalioth and also it didn't solve it02:35
boxybobby, huh?02:35
Suki`HaiKarate, thanks. Just need to check a few more things to make sure I don't have anymore problems.02:35
boxybobby, is sarge their 3.1 release?02:35
bobbyboxy, since sarge was released they have updated a lot of the distro02:35
HaiKarateSuki` : hain't no thang! tippi tai!02:35
bobbyI think so02:35
userasrootmy install fubared   i can't creat a user that has a /home directory, help me please02:36
bobbybut since then they have moved to x.org and new versions of gnome and most other apps02:36
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Suki`o.O02:36
wojtCan you change the resolution to higher than 1024x768 although you did not "mark" the higher resolutions when installing?02:36
apokryphoswojt: yes02:36
naliothubotu: tell wojt about fixres02:36
userasrootmy / and /home are on two different dirs02:36
userasrootrather partitions02:36
bobbywojt, yes, update the configure file ...though I'm sure ubuntu has a nice gui way to do it02:36
boxybobby, eh 5 mb down wouldn't take long to update02:36
apokryphosuserasroot: you can't create a user that has a home directory?02:36
hikenbootto put it another way i get unable to execute gcc: Permission denied02:36
hikenbootwhen executing a script as root02:37
boxyits just i dont wanna have to take all my hardware downstairs so i can plug into the network cause im on wifi right now02:37
nics_wojt: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server02:37
bobbyboxy, 500meg is my guess02:37
hikenbootis it possible it changes user inside the script02:37
bobbydist-upgrade02:37
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boxyplus i have no blank cd's02:37
mkyb14beep don't do it02:37
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userasrootapokryphos, yeah i keep trying to and i can't change the permissions with chmod or chown02:37
mkyb14is there a media player for mp3s that can play over my lan here at home to stream my mp3s from my windows machine to my linux box...xmms and beep don't do it02:37
boxybobby, i could do that but i'd have all this mess from ubuntu on here wouldn't i?02:37
XIIInalioth it even prevents me from installing/removing any other application02:37
boxybobby, is there a way to make this strip back down to the base install then do that/02:37
bobbyboxy, it is probably best to get sarge and then do a fresh install and upgrade to etch or sid02:38
apokryphosuserasroot: you're going to have to describe the exact situation. / and /home are on different partitions, right. Now, what/why are you trying to chmod/chown anything?02:38
bobbyboxy, it wouldn't work to well...02:38
boxyhaha02:38
boxythats what i thought02:38
wojtnics_: "x-org server is not installed"02:38
wojt:/02:38
boxywhich is stable and unstable for debian bobby?02:38
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bobbythough you probably could for a bit of fun :)02:38
powderfingermkybl4 xmms will do it if you mount a samba share02:38
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mkyb14i have one mounted02:38
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boxybobby, fun is trying to fix your system after apt-get dep's screw up.02:38
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bobbyboxy, stable = sarge, testing = etch, unstable = sid, experimental = experimental02:39
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lwsexcuse me, I'm new to ubuntu and i'm trying to setup cups.02:39
Obywanssal all02:39
Obywanswenas02:39
rabidsnailhow do I change the allowed ip-addresses in mysql to all ip's02:39
powderfingerAnd you're sure it won't play?02:39
p337Liable, I do not have permissions to enable either network connection02:39
bobbyI run a mixture of sid and experimental...though I recommend others use etch and maybe sid if they are brave :P02:39
mkyb14i go to places > connect to server > windows share02:39
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kameronwhy when i 'startx -- :1' from virtual console, it doesn't work, but when i do it from a command line terminal, it works/02:39
boxysid is "stable" for the most part for a desktop isn't it?02:39
userasrootapokryphos, the installation didn't allow me to create a user  some problem with passwords02:39
mkyb14yea i can drag it to the list but it just won't play02:39
powderfingerNo you probably need to do a proper mount02:39
liablep337: eh? i dunno how to help you with the gui stuff.02:39
apokryphosuserasroot: huh? :/02:39
mkyb14proper?02:39
userasrootso i skipped that and set up the system with root02:39
lwsI'm wondering why I /dev/usb missing02:39
powderfinger!mount02:40
ubotumount is probably the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f02:40
apokryphosuserasroot: and now you can't add a new user? Why?02:40
lwsand also, why is configuring cups through the web interface disabled?02:40
p337liable.... how do i enable network connections from console then?02:40
apokryphosuserasroot: sudo adduser username02:40
bobbyboxy, yes, myself and several friends run it as our desktops, haven't had any broken package or dependancy problems for months02:40
liablep337: did you load the module, or reboot after adding it to the file?02:40
boxybobby, that's good02:40
p337liable, what do you mean load the module?02:40
bobbyboxy, though I'm using experimental for gnome 2.12...but I think that moved to sid last night cause I noticed a bunch of new gnome updates02:40
mkyb14i'll give that a shot.... i'm doing this over a lan though not a hd in my computer02:40
liablep337: remember doing modprobe rt2500?02:41
bobbyeither way gnome 2.12 will be in sid in the next two weeks or so02:41
boxybobby, eh i've about had it with gnome.02:41
powderfingerThat's what samba is for.  It will work02:41
bobbyboxy, lol02:41
liablep337: when you reboot it will be loaded next time02:41
p337liable yeah i did that02:41
userasrootapokryphos, yeah i can add a user but it won't create a /home/(user)02:41
boxybobby, bulk bulk bulk.02:41
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powderfingerKnow anything about sharing under windows?02:41
mkyb14i'm looking at the !mount instructions and it's for a hard drive02:41
apokryphosuserasroot: it produces no error?02:41
mkyb14yea02:41
boxybobby, it makes me wanna cry02:41
userasrootjust a sec02:41
bobbyboxy, xfce is what I use when I get sick of gnome...it is nearly nice and polished, else I use blackbox :)02:41
boxybobby, not to mention that esd on ubuntu is screwed up so gnome takes like 10 minutes to load02:41
mkyb14i'm a windows person before linux... i'm learning linux and have shared it other flavors02:41
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p337Liable i have rebooted several times, i am using the same computer right now02:42
powderfingerTry adding something like "//neon/Disk-1/mnt/neon/disk1smbfsguest,fmask=0777,dmask=0777"02:42
boxybobby, i use to use fluxbox02:42
powderfingerto your /etc/fstab file02:42
liablep337: does it show up in ifconfig -a02:42
p337liable yeah02:42
liablep337: in iwconfig?02:42
bobbyboxy, is it? mmm I just use alsa on all pc's I have control over02:42
powderfinger!samba02:42
uboturumour has it, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently02:42
liablep337: ifup ra0   (if thats the name, cant remember)02:42
tech9ineralas mates..02:42
p337liable i think it shows up... it sees my network and everything, but wont jon it02:43
bobbyesd was stuffed on debian sid last week but it is working again now :)02:43
boxybobby, yeah i tryed installing alsa but the ubuntu wiki wasn't much help so i didnt bother02:43
bobbyboxy, mmm02:43
liablep337: oh02:43
dp---!shred02:43
ubotudp---: Are you smoking crack?02:43
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powderfingerTry that line up there ^^^^02:43
bobbyanyway I've got to try and get this viafb working, back later all02:43
wojt128mb is 128 000 isn't it? :P02:43
powderfingerSorry link!02:43
wojtkb02:43
wojtthat is02:43
userasrooto i get a chown 1001:1001 opperation not permitted02:43
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boxybobby, no worries im about to hit up debia anyways lol02:43
boxydebian*02:43
liablep337: try dhclient ra002:43
bobby:P02:43
lwsIs the cups binary modified on ubuntu?  How do i re-enable the web administration features?02:43
bobbyhope you like it02:43
userasrootwith adduser02:43
p337liable, whats weird is it doesn't even do my ethernet connection now02:43
apokryphosuserasroot: cat /etc/fstab|grep home    ...gives?02:43
Jasoni have  a odd question for you all linux pros02:44
alphyanybody know if there is a good chess game for linux somewhere?02:44
tech9iner1st ever install not bringing joy here.. messed up damned default non root gibberish and cannot reset root/default sudo user password .. spent last 2 hours googling and trying knoppix resets blah blah.. all to no avail..02:44
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boxybobby, i think ima just do a network install02:44
bobbyboxy, the debian help channel has a lot of users who are good at troubleshooting advanced problems02:44
apokryphosalphy: apt-cache search chess02:44
powderfingergnuchess?02:44
bobbyboxy, cleanest way02:44
Jasonwhat is diff between  ubuntu linux and  other linux like mepis02:44
liablep337: strange. check your router and make sure dhcp server is on.02:44
bobbygnome02:44
bobbygone*02:44
bobbylol02:44
p337liable  it is, cause i am using it right now02:44
tech9ineri could have completely reinstalled entire os in less time..02:44
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boxybobby, im sure couldn't be worst then this ;) heh i made a post on ubuntuforums, that was a joke trying to get a reply02:44
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tech9inerquite the culture shock/learning curve to change from root/user os chums..02:45
powderfingermkybl4 You still listening02:45
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HaiKarateJason : all the other Linux distributions suffer from the gum diseases known as <peter_griffin>GINGIVITIS!</peter_griffin> ;-)02:45
Suki`o.O;;02:45
boxybobby, do you have aim?02:45
userasrooti get dev blah home VFAT02:45
userasrootapokryphos,02:45
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apokryphosuserasroot: why is your /home on vfat? :/02:45
tech9inerdoes any bloke present have a clue.. aside from entire reinstallation for another 2 hours please?02:45
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slashx1896What are .class files?02:46
zblachHaiKarate, isn't that what the dreated plac users get?02:46
tech9ineron how to reset sudo password or ?? other work around please .. thanks02:46
boxyslashx1896, compiled java files02:46
Jasonfact resons or are all linux the same02:46
apokryphosuserasroot: not sure if that's entirely supported. Might well be fine; might not be.02:46
zblachslashx1896, compiled java files02:46
slashx1896hmm02:46
apokryphosuserasroot: and the blah blah is important info 8). Always good to paste.02:46
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powderfingerHow rude is that?  You ofer someone advice, then he f*cks of without a word.02:46
mshhu02:46
mshhi02:46
userasrooti am trying too set up a dual boot for my buddy but i think i will02:46
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HaiKaratetech9iner : what's a bloke, homey? it sounds like a dirty word! werd!02:46
bimberitech9iner: can you log in?02:46
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p337liable i think i am gonna format those partitions and start from the beginning02:46
mkyb14sayss that it can't resolve mount point02:47
Doomhammerslashx1896: if you're trying to run them, java <class name without the .class>02:47
liablep337: err, i dont think thats quite neccesary02:47
powderfingerCreate a directory02:47
apokryphosuserasroot: so why would you want /home as vfat? You can dualboot without that.02:47
boxybobby?02:47
slashx1896i dont want to run 102:47
slashx1896i have a folder with a whole bunch of em02:47
powderfingereg.  "mkdir /mnt/somedirname"02:47
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Doomhammerslashx: any idea what they're for ? :P02:47
userasrootyeah it must not be fully supported02:47
tech9inerbimberi: thanks.. yes i have, on others advice here created a new user to login..02:47
slashx1896yeah..02:47
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slashx1896a program02:47
slashx1896lol02:47
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slashx1896a java based program02:47
userasrootthanks02:47
slashx1896or something..02:47
bimberitech9iner: but no sudo access?02:47
userasrooti go run fdisk02:47
p337liable... its just if i cant get it to even connect to ethernet.. i cant even get help02:47
shinuhey02:47
Doomhammerslashx1896: well i could've told you that lol02:47
userasrootthankyou02:47
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slashx1896the readme type file said where the main class folder is, and then said Main-Class will be added automatically by build02:48
slashx1896lol02:48
liablep337: is your etherenet called eth0?02:48
zblachwould another channel be better for ubuntu hardware support?02:48
apokryphoszblach: nope02:48
p337liable i think so02:48
liablep337: from a terminal run, sudo ifup eth002:48
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zblachslashx1896, best bet: try this. javac *.02:48
zblachwell, no .02:48
zblachbut meh02:48
slashx1896o.O02:48
slashx1896lol02:48
Wilfred-_-Lauriewhen i install something with synaptic packet manager.... should it not create a launcher in my applications shortcuts02:49
michaelLast thing I'll annoy you about02:49
michaelhttp://pastebin.com/49868602:49
p337liable.. lol alright let me reboot02:49
liablep337: if that fails, run , ifconfig eth0 up && dhclient eth002:49
tech9inernay bimberi .. i buggered the password during install of u 5.0.4 ;[.. and since ubuntu decided to not offer root access.. /me bays to the fckg moon..02:49
shinufor midnight commander, how do i change the default program used for opening say.. a .avi file?02:49
bimberitech9iner: try booting into recovery mode - "adduser <user> admin", then that account should have sudo access02:49
zblachp337, beware that combination!02:49
Doomhammerwilfred: it does for most apps, but not all the time... if it didn't create one, look in /usr/bin and /usr/sbin02:49
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liablezblach: ??02:49
michaelo, and how do i configure the network interfaces that startup?02:49
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timfrostWilfred-_-Laurie, only if the application packager included the desktop file that is needed02:49
powderfingermk How we doin?02:49
zblachp337, liable, often when my network dies, i try that combination02:49
slashx1896doomhammer, what it means the main class will automaticale be added by build?02:49
bimberiWilfred-_-Laurie: not for all apps unfortunately, there's always Applications -> System Tools -> Applications Menu Editor02:49
blood_how can i play me some mp3's02:49
blood_?02:50
p337zblach beware?02:50
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zblachp337, liable, and when I do, 9/10 times, my computer locks up totally02:50
bimberiubotu tell blood_ about mp302:50
powderfingerblood xmms02:50
rubenwo bin ich02:50
Doomhammerslashx: i don't have THAT much experience with java, but I believe it means it will be automatically packaged in a JAR02:50
zblachso, watchout02:50
p337zblach well i don't have much to lose02:50
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p337but thanks02:50
liablezblach: then your computer is stuffed..02:50
slashx1896well it came with a jar file that i extracted02:50
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zblachp337, kk. i just found it irritation02:50
Doomhammerslashx: ah the jar was what you were supposed to run02:50
mkyb14smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)02:50
mkyb14smbmnt failed: 102:50
tech9inerbimberi .. and thanks muchly guv ;] ] ..02:50
mkyb14wtf is taht02:50
zblachliable, what better place to get unstuffed? so i used to think02:50
bimberitech9iner: not yet, wait till it works :)02:51
zblachmkyb14, its cockney english02:51
kestasworkaccanyone know how you switch chans in irssi?02:51
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mkyb14what02:51
powderfingerMount it a s root02:51
slashx1896anyone here good with java and can help me out?02:51
chihuonghelp me02:51
liablezblach: it is the *only* way i bring up my infaces, and never locks my computer up.02:51
slashx1896chihuong, what u need?02:51
apokryphoskestas: alt+1/2/3/4/5 etc etc02:51
kestasworkaccapokryphos: thanks02:51
zblachslashx1896, i've got 2 years in java, just HS stuff, but maybe02:51
HaiKaratemkyb14 : sudo mount -t smbfs ...  werd!02:51
Doomhammerslashx: the jar is like an exe... it's the executable portion of a java application... e.g. java -jar something.jar02:51
norcenhaving a problem booting the ubuntu cd on my hp latop, can anyone offer help?02:51
Jasonwell my boss want me to pic a ez to use linux for these older pc so he can sell them02:51
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tech9ineraye that bimberi .. indeed lol02:52
zblachnorcen, not use hp? lol02:52
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chihuongi can't intalls x-unikey on ubuntu02:52
Jasonit came down 3 disros02:52
slashx1896doomhammer, its meant to be extracted though rite?02:52
lwsI would really appreciate some kind of information about the cups package included with ubuntu.02:52
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norcenzblach: heh02:52
Jasonubunttu  mepis  and pclinux02:52
_jasonubotu, tell Jason about enter02:52
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Doomhammerslashx: not normally, unless you have some need to look at the actual binaries02:52
rubeni seem to have installed breezy correctly :)02:52
Koruptanybody know if the dapper updates today are safe to run...... ?02:52
Wilfred-_-Lauriethanks Doomhammer02:52
slashx1896oh02:52
tech9inermisfit_toy: whaszzzuuuuuppp ;] ] .. pokey chap02:52
rubenso02:52
DoomhammerWilfred: no problem :)02:52
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slashx1896doomhammer, what do u do with it then?02:52
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Doomhammerslashx: run it ... java -jar the_jar_name.jar02:53
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jansel001hey02:53
michael!help http://pastebin.com/498686 <- problem listed here02:53
jansel001Aquien que hable en espa;o02:53
_jason!es02:53
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:53
HaiKarate!es02:53
norceni'm getting an 'image checksum error' when booting from ubuntu install cd, help anyone?02:53
jansel001Necesito Ayuda02:53
Doomhammerslashx: unless it just contains class files that are meant to be imported by another jar program... it can be used similarly to C header files, but i don't think that's what yours is for02:53
rubenso no questions for you, all :)02:53
Doomhammerslashx: you're not a java developer, are you ?02:53
mkyb14to login as root is just su02:53
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mkyb14then password02:53
HaiKarateblootbot indeed. werd!02:53
somerville32I'm back02:54
slashx1896Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from jKaiUI02:54
Doomhammerjason: i'd try ubuntu, debian, maybe fedora, perhaps mandrake02:54
Doomhammerjason: if you want an easy linux02:54
rubenboy o02:54
slashx1896ahh02:54
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slashx1896forgot to do .jar02:54
slashx1896;)02:54
_jasonubotu, tell mkyb14 about root02:54
powderfingerI always do "su -" then password02:54
benplautif all computers on a network have software firewalls, is it safe to turn off the router DoS firewall? none are servers, and i think it's slowing down the internet02:54
powderfinger!root02:54
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.02:54
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powderfingerAggh, I'm on Debian02:54
apokryphospowderfinger: of course, however, sudo is the recommended method.02:54
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p337liable: well the ethernet worked this time when i booted02:54
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Jasonyes ez linux would be vary nice    doomkaper02:54
mkyb14ha ok that did it02:55
powderfingerMounted?02:55
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ruben the sound of ubuntu gives trouble02:55
liablep337: interesting..02:55
slashx1896doomhammer, ok i did that and a whole bunch of stuff popped up and it loks like 1 error02:55
mkyb14but its bugg like its cutting in and out02:55
p337liable: so i can work on the wireles though02:55
powderfingerAre you wireless?02:55
Doomhammerslashx: a stack trace ?02:55
mkyb14yea 54g02:55
slashx1896whats a stack trace? :P02:55
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powderfingerSignal Strength?02:55
liablep337: you cant turn it on through the gui?02:55
Doomhammerslashx: it's java's way of handling errors (exceptions)02:55
Jasondoomhammer   ez disro be good thing02:55
Doomhammerslashx: do this for me, java --version02:55
p337liable: it isnt giving me an ip address... but it sees it and has full signal strength02:56
Doomhammerslashx: if it's the GNU java interpretor, you should get the official JRE from http://java.sun.com02:56
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mkyb14good/exelent.. i'm on a ethernet bridge02:56
liablep337: paste your /etc/network/interfaces file to a paster02:56
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slashx1896java version "1.4.2"02:56
slashx1896gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)02:56
p337liable: ok02:56
mkyb14wet54g by linksys02:56
jansel001_HOLA02:56
Doomhammerjason: look here: www.ubuntulinux.org02:56
jansel001_que tal02:56
powderfingerI would suspect you have wireless problems02:56
apokryphos!es02:56
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:56
jansel001_Necesito AYuda02:56
jansel001_PLEASE AYUDA02:56
liablejansel001_: /join #ubuntu-es02:57
slashx1896doomhammer, thats what i got.. then somethin about warranty02:57
Doomhammerslashx: yes, that's the gnu java interpretor... download the JRE from http://java.sun.com02:57
UncleDSynchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org (It fails every time on bootup) - anyone have this problem? How can I fix it02:57
jansel001_ayuda02:57
mkyb14hm i could do a cross over cable02:57
jansel001_help02:57
eXSiRhi may i ask a question, why cant i join #debian02:57
eXSiR* Cannot join #debian (You are banned).02:57
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Doomhammerslashx: i haven't been able to get java applications compiled with the sun compile to run with the gnu interpretor02:57
eXSiRit says u are banned02:57
jansel001_aquien que sepa hablar espanol02:57
jansel001_necesito ayuda02:57
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eXSiR??02:57
eXSiRany idea02:57
apokryphosjansel001: English only in here02:57
jansel001_con mi ubuntu02:57
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liableeXSiR: /msg an op and ask02:57
jansel001_I no can speak in english02:57
jansel001_Sorry02:57
eXSiRi dont who are ops02:57
powderfingerTry that to eliminate potential wireless SNAFUs02:57
norcenis there an alternate bootable cd image like with suse that i can use? i can't seem to boot to the disk (image checksum error)02:57
apokryphosjansel001: then join the respective channel02:57
apokryphoseXSiR: what is the problem?02:58
p337liable: http://pastebin.com/49869902:58
mkyb14there shouldn't be any problems with the wireless02:58
p337doesnt seem to say much02:58
eXSiRi cant join #debian02:58
jansel001_help me my ubunto i want account of user my ubuntu 5.1002:58
chihuongthank you, but i can't do it02:58
mkyb14hm02:58
liableeXSiR: try dondelecaro or caphuso (fairly often on channel)02:58
Doomhammerjansel: No soy seguro all soy un canal espaol.02:58
eXSiRoke liable02:58
jansel001_a want root user recovery password02:58
apokryphoseXSiR: that is off-topic.02:58
michaelwhat is the lo network interface for??? and can I comment it out of the /etc/network/interfaces02:58
Doomhammerjansel: Si estoy utilizando espaol incorrecto, apesadumbrado, estoy utilizando Babelfish. :P02:58
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jansel001_jansel02:59
powderfingerMove closer to the access point and see if things improve02:59
Toma-!es02:59
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:59
jansel001_aquien que hable espanol que pueda ayudarme02:59
jansel001_mi email es este02:59
liablep337: is your ap still open?02:59
slashx1896doomhammer, so what am i looking for at the site02:59
Obywans!ro02:59
ubotuObywans: I haven't a clue02:59
jansel001_jansel_gt@hotmail.com02:59
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p337liable: ap?02:59
Doomhammerslashx: here, i'll find you a link02:59
jansel001_mmgbo02:59
mkyb14the device says 100%02:59
liablep337: access point02:59
p337liable: oh yeah02:59
Obywans!op02:59
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, Obywans02:59
Doomhammerslashx: here's the page: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp02:59
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Doomhammerslashx: you want the JRE 5.0 Update 603:00
UncleDapokryphos: When I bootup, synchronizing ntpdate to ntp.ubuntulinux.org fails (and it takes 3 minutes to fail at that) - what can i do?03:00
apokryphosObywans: ??03:00
Toma-UncleD, disable it03:00
liablep337: add these lines to your interfaces file.03:00
scragglybeardok, so my homey ubotu no longer recognizes the bang syntx now? werd?03:00
apokryphosUncleD: or press Ctrl+C to cancel it at the time03:00
liablep337: actually /j #flood03:00
powderfingerWell if you're ruling out connectivity I don't know what other probs you migh be having03:00
DoomhammerUncleD: you could also configure ntpdate to sync with a different server, although I don't know how to do that03:00
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userasroothey how do i format a partition ext3?03:01
UncleDToma-: disable it by removing the file from rcS.d?03:01
Doomhammeruserasroot: mke2fs -j /dev/hda1 (replace /dev/hda1 with the partition you want)03:01
slashx1896doomhammer, whats the rpm 1?03:01
apokryphosuserasroot: mkfs.ext3 /dev/somepartition03:01
Doomhammerslashx: get the self extracting one03:01
Toma-UncleD, Id say use update-rc.d, but alot of people will say to use chmod. so im stayiong out of this.03:01
slashx1896they both are03:02
slashx1896except one is a rpm self extracting03:02
Doomhammerslashx: don't get the RPM, get the .bin03:02
p337liable: ok... now what?03:02
mkyb14yea... like most things i'm running into problems with linux03:02
scragglybeard+1 update-rc.d werd! proper!03:02
slashx1896there both .bin but i udnerstand lol03:02
p337liable was #flood a comment03:02
Doomhammerslashx: okay lol sorry03:02
powderfingerIt's worth persevering, but only U can decide03:02
slashx1896its ok lol03:02
liablep337: /j #flood03:02
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Doomhammerslashx: once it's downloaded, move it to /usr/local (or wherever you want to install it)03:03
Doomhammerslashx: and then do "sudo sh <name of .bin archive>"03:03
Toma-last time i said to use update-rc.d, about 5 debain users started biting my head off saying chmod is easier03:03
p337liable: Ok, done03:03
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somerville32Ubuntu didn't detect my sound card by default but modprove sb finds it, what do I have to do to make it detect it everytime I log on?03:04
tech9inerhmmm... k mates.. bimberi ;] ] .. useradd <username> admin no worky?03:04
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Toma-somerville32, is it an old ISA card?03:04
starscallingi need an ultralight browser for openbox w/o too many gnome dependancies03:04
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somerville32Toma: I think so03:04
Doomhammerstarscalling: links2 is very light weight... but it's text based :P03:04
scragglybeardstarscalling : lynx! hype!03:04
liablep337: no, your not there..03:04
UncleDToma-: sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove | sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate | cd /etc/rcS.d ; sudo mv S51ntpdate _S51ntpdate | Which one?03:04
tech9inersitting at shell prompt via rescue mode on install cd of u 5.0.4..03:05
Toma-somerville32, yeh i think SB = soundblaster 16 right?03:05
liablep337: type /j #flood in your irc client03:05
starscallingyeah i want a gui .. guess ill go with mozilla-browser for that03:05
somerville32Toma: I'm pretty sure.03:05
p337liable: haha ohh03:05
tech9inertwould seem adduser doesnt like admin as command typed please03:05
Doomhammerstarscalling: i like firefox03:05
mkyb14how do you kill a process03:05
Toma-UncleD, id like to say "sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove", but ill probably get alot of complains from debain users :)03:05
mkyb14like xmms03:05
bimberitech9iner: adduser (not useradd) - but the intention was to make that account a member of the admin group - you could confirm that by typing "groups" in a terminal03:05
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tech9ineraha.. may be relative eh bimberi ..03:05
Doomhammerstarscalling: there's another tiny gui browser called "ijini", but i belive it's windows only... been so long since i used it, might want to google it03:05
tech9inerlol03:05
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mkrenzI'm writing an ssh document and I don't have Ubuntu installed anywhere right now.  Can someone tell me if ssh-agent starts automatically when you login to X from gdm?03:06
Toma-somerville32, ok, well you could add "sb" to your /etc/modules file (let me check a moment)03:06
powderfingerJust close it03:06
mkyb14can't03:06
tech9ineralas.. i look damned good in color 'dumkopf' eh mates.. lol03:06
mkyb14it's froze03:06
powderfingerWhy?03:06
mkyb14i dunno03:06
powderfinger!kill03:06
ubotumethinks kill is a command for getting rid of unwanted processes, usage: kill [-signal]  PID.  Signals are numbers: -15 is general exit, -9 forces quit.  See manual page for more.03:06
norcencan anyone offer an alternative to installing ubuntu (other than booting off the CD)03:06
Toma-somerville32, yeh. add sb to /etc/modules03:06
starscallingo:03:06
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starscallingthanx Doomhammer03:06
Toma-mkrenz, nope03:06
starscallingill check that out03:06
Doomhammerstarscalling: no problem :)03:06
starscalling;)03:07
bimberinorcen: various methods described at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation03:07
norcenty bimberi03:07
mkyb14nope03:07
slashx1896doomhammer, it wont let me move it to /usr/local03:07
bimberinorcen: np :)03:07
starscallinghow about an ultralight text editor?03:07
starscalling[gui] 03:07
Toma-vi03:07
starscallingnot vi03:07
starscallingi dont get along with that one03:07
Toma-im sure theres a gui vi :/03:07
Toma-neither03:07
starscallingthere is03:07
_jasongvim03:07
starscallingi dont like vi !_!03:07
starscallingany others?03:07
_jasonstarscalling, whats wrong with gedit03:08
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mkrenzToma-: Really?  I'm surprised.  Especially since Debian does.03:08
starscallingim trying to stay away from gnome dependancies03:08
powderfingerWhat did U type?03:08
_jasonstarscalling, oh I see03:08
starscallingand that has lots03:08
somerville32!mp303:08
ubotuI heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:08
starscallingdoing um03:08
Toma-mkrenz, i didnt know ubuntu WAS debian. i thought it was only based on it?03:08
mkyb14!samba03:08
tech9inerwell bimberi .. your cli correction seemed to work 'adding user '???' to group 'admin'...' but.. groups returned only root?03:08
Toma-;)03:08
ubotusamba is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently03:08
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kameron!tell Toma- about debian03:09
starscalling so server install >> openbox gdm xserver-xorg x-window-system-core mozilla-browser xterminal03:09
starscalling+nvidia-glx03:09
starscallinghehe is all i got in so far03:09
Toma-kameron, i know.03:09
bimberitech9iner: how about "groups <user>"03:09
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tech9inerthanks bimberi03:09
Doomhammerstarscalling: if you don't mind my asking, what is this minimal system going to be used for ?03:09
necrotechrmm03:09
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powderfingerNeed to go zzzzzz. Night everyone03:10
tech9inerNOW u rulz bit more bimberi heh03:10
bimberitech9iner: lol03:10
starscallingheh its my daily system03:10
Toma-starscalling, why not use xdm?03:10
starscallingim just tired of the usual gnome setup with everything03:10
starscallingi dont like xdm ??03:10
starscallingwait03:10
starscallingxdm?03:10
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Toma-haha03:10
starscallingused gdm already >.<03:10
starscallingthought u were going for xfce03:11
apokryphos!enter03:11
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!03:11
starscallingbut i had problems with xdm before03:11
starscallingb/c i couldnt confi03:11
starscallingg03:11
Toma-or even wdm :O thats pretty cool.03:11
starscallingthough i should have tried again03:11
starscallingwdm??03:11
Toma-WINGs display manager03:11
Doomhammerhmm neat03:11
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Toma-http://voins.program.ru/wdm03:11
scragglybeardstarscalling : ye be puttin hormel's processed meat in the channel too much homey! :-(03:11
Doomhammeri just figured screw it, and did a base install with kubuntu-desktop03:11
slashx1896doomhammer, it wont let me move it to /usr/local03:11
Doomhammerslashx: you need to sudo it03:11
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slashx1896how do i move it to there thruogh terminal?03:12
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Travis_hi, I have an install of Ubuntu that I had dual booted with Windows XP I recently got rid of the XP partition and have extra space on the drive, how can I resize / to get the extra space without losing my data03:12
Toma-Travis_, was the XP drive infront of the ext3 drive?03:13
Gunfusdoes anyone have tried to compile lm_sensors on Ubuntus..?03:13
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Toma-Gunfus, why compile?03:13
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slashx1896i know i need to sudo it to install but i cant even move the .bin file to /usr/local03:13
GunfusToma-, I couldn't find it on the servers..03:13
Toma-!info lm-sensors03:14
ubotulm-sensors: (utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors), section utils, is extra. Version: 1:2.9.1-4ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 460 kB, Installed size: 1476 kB03:14
bimberic/_/-/03:14
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Travis_Toma- yes03:14
starscallingwhat03:14
GunfusToma-, ohh look at that.. now I found it.. nevermind then03:14
Toma-Travis_, not sure if its possible...03:14
starscallingarg its the keyboard; what's emacs?03:14
Toma-Gunfus, hehe ;)03:14
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Toma-emacs is ecrap.03:15
starscallingeh03:15
Toma-imho.03:15
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bimberih?03:15
starscallingok im gonna try leafpad then :)03:15
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UncleDToma-: Doing a chmod -x on the /etc/init.d/ntpdate worked fine.03:16
slashx1896Hmmm doom?03:16
Toma-UncleD, k.03:16
scragglybeard!funky03:16
Travis_I have 32gb of data on the XP drive03:16
ubotufunky is, like, totally, Get up,  (git awn up),   Get up,  (git awn up),  Stay on the scene (git awn up)..... like an ubuntu machine,  (git awn up). yeah granddaddy of funk :] 03:16
Travis_and I need to get that to my linux drive03:16
MalachiCan anyone guide me through the process of installing windows software on Linux using wine?03:16
Travis_and then I want the rest of the space that I have now03:16
Travis_just need to find a way to resize /03:16
Doomhammerslashx: sorry, was in the bathroom... whatcha need ?03:17
Doomhammermalachi: do you have wine setup  ?03:17
slashx1896lol its cool03:17
Toma-Malachi, you openup a terminal, then run "wine the-program-you-want.exe"03:17
MalachiDoomhammer: Installed? Yeah...03:17
slashx1896doomhammer, i cant move the .bin file to /usr/local, u said to sudo it.. how do i move it to /usr/local through terminal03:17
Doomhammermalachi: "wine some-program.exe"03:17
MalachiToma- : I've done that, but I don't know about installing it.03:17
Doomhammerslashx: sudo mv <the .bin file> /usr/local/03:17
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Travis_don't you just install like you would on windows03:17
Toma-Malachi, did it install? and is it supported?03:17
MalachiLike running an setup program03:17
MalachiI doubt it's supported03:18
Toma-Malachi, what program is it?03:18
MalachiRiva Encoder Setup03:18
Travis_actually is it possible to merge to ext3 drives?03:18
Travis_err partitions03:18
GunfusToma-, For lm-sensor.. do I still got to configure it and run sensors-detect and all of that.. I assume yes correct..?!03:18
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Travis_like / and /home merge them as one?03:18
Toma-Gunfus, id say so03:18
GunfusToma-, Sorry I am new to this ubuntus.. and after today.. I must say.. hmm is starting to impress me even more..!!!03:19
Toma-Malachi, looks like its not listed... http://appdb.winehq.org/ ...but it might still work03:19
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Toma-mmm brb03:19
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MalachiToma-: Mkay.03:20
slashx1896doomhammer, k i did sudo sh <.bin file> now it says alot of stuff03:20
Doomhammeryeah that's the license agreement :P03:20
slashx1896:D03:20
slashx1896i knew that03:20
Doomhammerjust hold down enter until it prompts you to say "yes"03:20
slashx1896its unpacking and what not noww03:20
Doomhammerwhen it's done, it's done installing03:20
Doomhammeryou need to specify the exact path to java03:20
Doomhammere.g. /usr/local/jdk-1.5.0_06/bin/java -jar <your .jar file>03:21
slashx1896ah03:21
slashx1896ok03:21
Doomhammerunless you add it to your path... and i'm not exactly sure how to do that correctly03:21
slashx1896do i do a cd to where the jar file is?03:21
Doomhammereither that or specify the exact path to the .jar03:21
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Doomhammer/usr/local/jdk1.5.0_06/bin/java -jar /some/path/something.jar03:22
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tech9inerahhhhh bimberi .. confirmed chum.. ye doth rule ;] ] .. one less wedgie in me knickers 4sure.. thanks..03:22
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Travis_I have a main ext3 / and a /home partition how can I merge them as one? is that possible?03:22
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bimberitech9iner: great!03:22
Toma-slashx1896, why not just use one of these? http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/dists/breezy/java/binary-i386/03:23
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DoomhammerToma-: i think that's the GNU java interpretor... which doesn't work correctly for java applications compiled with the Sun JDK in my experience03:23
Obywans!es03:23
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:23
slashx1896Toma- its ok03:23
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slashx1896doomhammer, thanks it worked!03:24
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Doomhammerslashx: sweet, congrats :)03:24
Toma-ahh................ slashx1896 what do you need java for? websites?03:24
shadeofgreyhey everybody03:24
Toma-nevermind03:24
shadeofgreyhows it goin03:24
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Doomhammertoma-: he was trying to run some .jar application03:24
Toma-ahh.03:24
kaszhey, can someone help me setup a pci ide extension card?03:24
shadeofgreyi have a very simple question for today...  i downloaded a whole bunch of kick ass .tff fonts that i wantto make globally available to all my installed programs...  what directory should i put them in?03:25
slashx1896Yea03:25
Toma-/usr/share/fonts03:25
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shadeofgreythanks!'03:25
kaszthe card shows up on lspci, but the harddrive that is connected to it won't show up in /dev03:25
shadeofgreyand do i have to be root to do that?03:25
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slashx1896i got all this working.. now i need to wait for my friend to get on and help me use this program03:25
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Jollyhello people03:26
Toma-shadeofgrey, you need to put sudo infront of the mv command03:26
Doomhammerslashx: what program is it, if i may ask ?03:26
Jollyhow can i get totem to actually play video files03:26
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Toma-Jolly, if is an avi wmv or rm, youll need w32codecs03:26
Toma-ubotu, tell Jolly about w32codecs03:27
Jollyhow do i get those03:27
DoomhammerJolly: i've never used totem... i much prefer VideoLAN VLC (apt-get install vlc) ... i'd highly reccommend that you try it :/03:27
DoomhammerJolly: VLC can play avi and wmv files right out of the box :)03:27
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UncleDToma-: How can I track down a memory leak? It seems over the course of 24hours my systems memory went from 800mb available to 600mb available?03:28
somerville32When does Ubuntu plan to update firefox?03:28
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Toma-UncleD, you sure its not getting cached?03:28
UncleDToma-: Explain what you mean by cached please?03:29
UncleDToma-: I'm going off the reading in "top" btw.03:29
sproingiesomerville32: in dapper.  updating ff means updating everything that links to gecko03:29
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sharnhello i have a big problem with installing ubuntu03:29
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Jollyvls is in repostiories03:29
Jollyhow do i get it03:29
Jollyits greyed out03:29
Jollyi would like vlc for Gnome03:29
sharnneither of the boot loaders work and now i cant even get into my original windows me03:30
Toma-UncleD, linux does a cool thing with memory, it caches it. meaning it gets it ready to be used... kinda like saying "On ya marks, get set....". try running "free" and see how much is cached03:30
tech9inerk mates.. new tact / challenge here.. shortest path to kubuntu conversion/upgrade from fresh ubuntu 5.0.4 please? bot cover this perhaps?03:30
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somerville32Why doesn't Ubuntu automatically redetect hardware?03:30
sharncan someone help?03:30
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sharnall i am getting when i start up my pc is a hp pic and then a bunch of 9's03:31
Toma-tech9iner, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop (iirc)03:31
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UncleDToma-: I have 82744 cached at this time, with 843mb free.03:31
tech9inerbravo Toma- ;] .. more than enough to mss google guv ;] ] 03:31
sharnanyone?03:31
UncleDToma-: How can I set my ubuntu system by default not to come up with the Xwindows login unless I specify it from a terminal? I'd rather it boot into a "Server like" mode and let me boot xwindows manually.03:32
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Toma-UncleD, like runlevel 3?03:32
UncleDI guess?03:32
liablesharn: not even a bios screen?03:32
sharnwell i can get into a bios screen but will that ehlp?03:32
sharnf1 will get me to a bios screen03:32
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UncleDToma-: I rarely plan on using X with this system. I only need it occasionally, so I think having it bootup is using excessive amounts of memory?03:32
liablesharn: can you boot from a cd?03:32
indoUncleD: uninstall gdm03:33
sharnummm i have tried reinstalling it with the other boot loader and and without one at all so yeah03:33
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UncleDindo: will do.03:33
Toma-UncleD, yeh it would. i think you need to (from looking at /etc/initab) to set the runlevel to 1.03:33
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indolol nvmd03:33
tech9ineryour iirc is spot on Toma- ;] .. thanks.. ;] 03:34
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UncleDindo: should I remove gdm via synaptic?03:34
Toma-tech9iner, np :)03:34
liablesharn: boot alive cd and see if you can access your drive03:34
pashawUncleD,   sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove03:34
sharnok..... hang on a few03:34
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gnaiknew to ubuntu...how to prevent specific kernel modules from loading (I don't want the sound drivers to be loaded when I boot)...i checked /etc/modules already03:34
pashawUncleD,  it just removes the boot script link03:34
Toma-UncleD, i think youll have to remove xdm aswell as gdm03:34
UncleDpashaw, is BUM just a graphical version of update-rc.d ??03:34
sharni just put it in and am starting it up03:35
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Toma-UncleD, the sensible way would be to edit /etc/inittab and change the line id:2:initdefault to id:1:initdefault03:36
Toma-at least, thats what id do.03:36
p337liable: it seems to be working.. but i had a hell of a time connecting with kopete03:36
Toma-(ps, im not trying to start a debate.)03:36
p337liable i am using konversation now03:36
liablep337: i was wondering where you got to.03:37
p337heh...03:37
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liablep337: i seen you join then part straight after03:37
sharnits preparing live session03:37
p337ah...03:37
p337liable: how do i tell if i am connected wirelessly or through ethernet.. since both are plugged in03:37
pashawUncleD,   never used it03:37
koruptprydewhat startup script can I put additional commands in?03:37
UncleDToma-: By changing it from d to 1, what happens?03:37
liablep337: type, sudo route    and look for the UG and whatever iface is on that line03:38
somerville32Hey03:38
UncleDToma-: never mind, I see.03:38
Toma-UncleD, from 2 to 1.... it'll start at a single-user run level, meaning no X, and only the 1 runlevel scripts will be run, which will almost alwasy be just the server inits03:38
somerville32It takes forever for my card to get an ip address from windows xp with ICS.03:38
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p337liable: its on eth003:38
somerville32Is there anything I can do to make it work correctly (and with haste)03:39
UncleDToma-: cool. Going to give it a shot.03:39
liablep337: then thats what you are connected through.03:39
sharnalmost done liable03:39
Toma-UncleD, ive never used it in ubuntu tho. so im hoping it works :|03:39
p337liable: lol.. yeah... guess so03:39
pashawsomerville32,  buy a router and dont use ICS03:39
p337liable: what happens if i unplug my ethernet cable then03:39
p337liable: will it connect wirelessly?03:39
pashawsomerville32,   or use an old pc with  ipcop/smoothwall/moonwall03:39
koruptprydeQuestion... what startup script can I put additional commands in?03:39
Toma-UncleD, and yes, BUM is a gui for update-rc.d03:40
somerville32pashaw: Is it my box or the windows box?03:40
Toma-koruptpryde, you might need to make your own03:40
koruptprydeI'm not familiar with Ubuntu's init script style03:40
liablep337: i doubt it. run ifdown eth0 then ifconfig ra0 up then dhclient ra003:40
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sharnliable: i have the live almost started03:40
koruptprydeToma-: most distros have a generic script where you can just dump a few extra commands03:40
liablesharn: ok03:40
Toma-koruptpryde, yeh i know. dunno why they left out rc.local :/03:41
pashawsomerville32,   no idea  but sharing a connection like that has to be the worst way IMHO03:41
koruptprydeToma: rcS looks promising but i don't know if it gets parsed on every runlevel03:41
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cozhello all03:42
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Toma-koruptpryde, try "cd /etc/init.d/ && sudo touch extra-stuff && sudo chmod +x extra-stuff && sudo update-rc.d extra-stuff defaults"03:42
cozanyone here tried gruler or colorscheme03:42
johnnybezakhey guys, my old mac monitor (on my imac) has darkened over the years. I'm not sure of a hardware way to fix this, but is there anyway i can make X brighten the screen up?03:42
Toma-then youll have a little script you can control with update-rc.d03:43
kaszis there a module i need to load to be able to use my pci ide expandion card?03:43
sharnk the bars are loading03:43
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Toma-johnnybezak, try xgamma -gamma 1.303:43
sharnlike the background03:43
gnaikanyone know?03:43
Toma-or something higher. dont use anything over 2.0, youll go blind :D03:44
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Toma-or under 0.8, youll not see anything03:44
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sharnliable:ok its loaded03:44
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cozgnaik I came in late what wasyourquestion03:45
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liablesharn: can you look around in your drive?03:45
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sharnyeah i can03:45
cozdaddy coz has arrived03:45
Toma-johnnybezak, ive added "xgamma -gamma 1.35" to my System>Preferences>Sessions:Startup Programs03:45
narlesdoes anyone know a good linux replacement for mytunes redux?03:45
sharnim not used to the linux setup though03:45
gnaikcoz: My kernel loads like 23434 modules upon boot...i'm trying to get rid of the sound drivers from loading -- removed alsa from rc2 and checked /etc/modules03:45
_p337liable: did you get any of what i just said?03:45
liablesharn: ok, right click and see if the drive is writable03:45
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liablep337: nope03:46
_p337lol.. oh... ok...03:46
Toma-gnaik, you might need to add the modules you dont like to /etc/hotplug/blacklist03:46
sharnummm03:46
cozgnaik I think apokryphos can help on thi sone03:46
_p337liable: cool thanks... now what about making that sound work even after i reboot?03:46
_p337liable: do i need to do modprobe or whatever it is again03:46
ethanuhh03:46
gnaikahh...hotplug...can I disable hotplug all together?03:46
sharnok so right click filesystem and click properties?03:46
ethanWhy is ubuntu always using my harddisk every 8 seconds or so??03:47
ethan>?,.03:47
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Toma-gnaik, if you have hardware in your PC, id reccomend you leave it on03:47
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liable_p337: i dunno about your sound. run lsmod and see if there are any snd modules there.03:47
Toma-ethan, have you run "top" and seen if anything is running every 8 seconds?03:47
benplautcoz: having trouble? :P03:47
liable_p337: the wireless works though?03:47
_p337ok03:47
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liablesharn: yep03:47
_p337liable: yeah i think it does03:47
ethanToma-, .o.o...03:48
_p337thanks03:48
liable_p337: think?03:48
gnaikToma-: ??....under ubuntu...is hotplug responsible for loading everything?03:48
liable_p337: sudo route03:48
sharnliable: ok i am looking at the properties of filesystem what sub catagorie should i look it?03:48
ethanToma-, I guess it's ext3 isn't it?  somebody told me that it has to always stay in "check".  This prevents my disk from sleeping03:48
Toma-gnaik, pretty sure its a part of the backbone03:48
liablesharn: i just want to know if its writable03:48
_p337liable: yeah i am sure now.. just pulled out the ethernet cable03:48
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gnaikToma-: it loads a lot of nonsense...like vesafb03:48
liablehah03:48
ethanToma-, no.  a process isn't accessing the harddrive like that, obviously... lol.  It does this on the 8 computers I've installed ubuntu on.  The harddrive is always being accessed every little bit.03:49
Toma-gnaik, vesafb is loaded from the usplash. have you disabled that?03:49
gnaikToma-: under other distros...hotplug is used for things like USB devices, etc.03:49
_p337liable: i get an error message when i first boot03:49
_p337liable: about the sound03:49
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liable_p337: whats it say?03:49
Toma-!hotplug03:49
ubotuWish i knew, Toma-03:49
Toma-damn bot03:49
sharnunder permissions it says that it is not for anyone03:49
gnaikToma-: nope...where is that -- i apologize, I've been a FreeBSD user for years03:49
liablesharn: ok, what is your ubuntu ppartition on? /dev/hda1?03:50
_p337device /dev/dsp cant be opened server will continue using null output device03:50
ethanToma-, lol03:50
Toma-gnaik, im pretty sure that hotplug, along with hal, load everything you need03:50
sharnummm no /dev/hda2 i believe03:50
gnaikToma-: thats sucks...cause I don't need everything :)03:50
ethanToma-, can you get your harddrive to sleep?03:50
liable_p337: do the lsmod thing03:50
Toma-ethan, someone had that problem before in here.... my long term memory sux. tho. :(03:50
sharni have a 250 gb hard drive and windows is using the first half and it is on the second03:50
Toma-ethan, never tried03:51
liablesharn: sudo mount -o remount rw /dev/hda203:51
sharnubuntu is on the second03:51
sambagirlit's interesting but many these commands look like amiga commands.03:51
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sambagirlhd1:03:51
Toma-gnaik, are you trying to make an uber-minimal system?03:51
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ethanToma-, lol..  It does this for everybody I think.  I guess it is ext3.  it always has to talk to the disk.03:51
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_p337liable: well i dont see it03:52
errris it possible to have desktop scrolling in gnome like fluxbox has?03:52
liable_p337: no snd_xxx modules?03:52
gnaikToma-: nope, I just don't want useless kernel modules...I don't use the sound on this machine...and I don't care for pretty boot splashes (who reboots?)03:52
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_p337liable: i am not sure what i am looking for though03:52
sharnok im new to this so do i type that in somewhere?03:52
liable_p337: lsmod |grep snd03:52
liablesharn: yes, in a terminal03:52
sharnhow do i get to that?03:52
_p337liable: reutrns nothing03:53
Toma-gnaik, well get rid of "usplash" or "splash" in the grub menu (/boot/grub/menu.1st) and disable sound with your bios?03:53
liable_p337: whats your soundcard?03:53
_p337euh.... intel hign definition03:53
liablesharn: in the menu, a picture of a monitor03:53
sharnok.....03:53
_p337i used these als drivers or something03:53
Toma-err menu.lst03:53
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liable_p337: lspci |grep Audio03:54
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gnaikToma-: thats a start..what about ipv6?03:54
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_p337Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definiti03:55
_p337on Audio Controller (rev 03)03:55
aenthey... my menu disappears whenever I open it after like a couple milliseconds03:55
aenthow do I fix it?03:55
marcsterhi. i just did an update of my ubuntu installation and i noticed my pc automatically shutting down after idling for a few mins. where should i check ?03:55
sharnliable: in system tools?03:55
_p337liable: thats the one but, it didnt return that when i used the grep thing03:55
Toma-gnaik, ahhhhh i did that on my machine... hang on, ill brb.03:55
_p337liable: i just remember finding it when i did lspci yesterday03:56
aentits happening on dapper03:56
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sharnliable:nevermind i found it03:56
sharnand i type everything you said?03:56
aentanyone have any ideas on how to fix it?03:56
liablesharn: yeah03:56
narlesis it possible to reduce the space of my windows partition, and increase the size of my linux partition?03:56
naliothnarles: yes it is. use a gparted03:57
marcsterhi. i just did an update of my ubuntu installation and i noticed my pc automatically shutting down after idling for a few mins. where should i check ?03:57
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_p337well good the other version of me is gone now03:58
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sharnliable: it say's you must specify the filesystem type03:58
Toma-gnaik: ok, open up /etc/modprobe.d/aliases03:59
gnaikim there03:59
gnaikToma-: just comment it out?03:59
Toma-gnaik: ok, comment out alias net-pf-10 ipv603:59
liablep337: sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel03:59
Toma-no03:59
Toma-then add alias net-pf-10 ipv6 off04:00
Toma-then add alias net-pf-10 off04:00
Toma-then add alias ipv6 off04:00
p337liable: this is the driver i used http://tinyurl.com/ctsom04:00
liablesharn: erm, is your filesystem ext3?04:00
Toma-should cover it all.04:00
narlesdoes rhythm box music player support m4a?04:00
sharni think so04:00
gnaikToma-: thanks, i'll try to follow the same pattern with the others04:00
sharnis that what the defualt install does?04:00
sharni just did the defualt install04:00
Toma-gnaik: ok. but be very careful.04:00
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ethanok04:01
liablesharn: try this, sudo mount -o remount rw -t ext3 /dev/hda204:01
Toma-gnaik: the blacklist if the better way04:01
ethanCan somebody walk me though getting my hard drive to sleep then?04:01
ethan-cough-04:01
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theverantwhat should I use with my iPod?04:01
liablep337: try that modprobe i gave you04:01
Toma-theverant: your ears :O04:01
p337liable: modprobe rt2500?04:01
narleshow do i install java?04:02
theverantToma- :|04:02
gnaikToma-: I think im gonna try the blacklist first :)...thanks for all yer help04:02
liablep337: no, snd-hda-intel04:02
sharnok one minute04:02
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Toma-theverant: alot of people use gtkpod04:02
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Toma-gnaik: no problem!04:02
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Toma-bbl.04:03
p337liable: Module snd_hda_intel not found.04:03
ethanCan somebody walk me though getting my hard drive to sleep then?04:03
liablep337: hrm..04:03
theverantsystem - administration - Add programs = nothing happens04:03
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sharnliable: it says not mounted already or bad option now04:04
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liablesharn: sudo mkdir rescue04:05
liablesharn: sudo mount /dev/hda2 /rescue04:05
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liablep337: p337 whats the driver name again?04:06
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p337http://tinyurl.com/ctsom04:06
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C0LDI30oThey, quick question...i'm setting up a server for two ubuntu clients to connect to...can I use samba or do I have to use NFS?04:06
p337liable: has to do with realtek i think\04:06
liablesharn: sorry, sudo mkdir /rescue04:06
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sharnok it didnt do anything last time04:07
GameOver69can somene plz help me as none of my internet connections work on my kubuntu pc?04:07
GameOver69i installed the ndiswrapper and did everything to the point that my external wireless card was working perfectly... when i restarted my pc... that didnt work... nor did my internal wireless card or ethernet04:07
GameOver69and everytime i click enable in network settings04:08
liablesharn: thats good actually04:08
sharnthat didnt do anything either04:08
GameOver69it quickly goes back to being disabled04:08
liablesharn: did you do the mount one?04:08
sharnoh hang on04:08
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C0LDI30oTgameover, add auto wlan0 (or whatever you card is called) to etc/network/interfaces and restart04:08
GameOver69but how come none of my internet connections dont work anymore?04:09
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liablep337: can you paste the entire contents of lspci to a paster?04:09
sharnyep it said the same thing04:09
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p337liable: sure04:09
C0LDI30oTyou got aim or yahoo, gameover?04:09
liablesharn: sudo umount /dev/hda204:09
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sethkGameOver69, if none of your internet connections don't work anymore, than all of your internet connections are working04:09
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GameOver69i have aim04:09
GameOver69and yahoo04:09
C0LDI30oTim this screen name with one of them04:10
sharnit says /dev/hda2 not mounted04:10
p337liable: http://pastebin.com/49876704:10
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tolstoyDamn!  My iwp2200 set up works perfectly in fedora core 4!  But unbuntu is so much nicer in every other respect!  Grrrrrrrrr!04:10
bobbymmm how does one upgrade to x.org 6.9 under breezy badger?04:11
sharnwhich would mean that it didnt mount it to hd204:11
jawshoewahhi everyone i really need a basic how to on installing tar.gz programs04:11
sharnhda2*04:11
GameOver69seth how is that possible04:11
GameOver69what do i do to fix it04:11
sethkjawshoewah, a tar.gz is an archive format.  it can contain anything04:11
bobbyjawshoewah, tar -xzvf file.tar.gz && cd file/ && ./configure && make && sudo make install04:11
bobbyassuming it is a program04:11
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bobbyfile being whatever04:11
jawshoewahcool and to run after those commands?04:12
bobbyerm...depends on what the program is04:12
sethkjawshoewah, whatever you installed, of course.04:12
bimberis/make install/checkinstall/ ?04:12
bobbythough really you should get all of your programs through synaptic04:12
liablesharn: wahts the error when you try and mount it?04:12
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bobbybimberi, well if you've got time I guess...I normally skip it04:12
liablesharn: and whats the exact command you are using (paste it)04:12
bobbyjawshoewah, what program are you installing?04:12
sharnthe umount says /dev/hda2 not mounted04:13
jawshoewahastrolog and audioscrobbler04:13
GameOver69liable can i IM you so maybe u can help me?04:13
sharnsudo mount -o remount rw -t ext3 /dev/hda204:13
sharnthat was that one04:13
sharnas far as i know04:13
bobbyjawshoewah, mmmm astrolog is a package you can isntall04:14
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liableGameOver69: no, keep it in channel. (please)04:14
edoardohi gals, hi dudes : )04:14
edoardoyou guys, do you have an /etc/sysconfig/hotplug file in your tree? it's important : )04:14
jawshoewahyou are familiar with it bobby?04:14
GameOver69what was that ocmmand for interfaces im supposed to enter04:14
p337liable: am i supposed to modprobe something else?04:14
liablesharn: no.  sudo mount /dev/hda2 /rescue04:14
bobbyjawshoewah, not at all, just did aptitude search astrolog (similiar to searching for it in synaptic)04:14
liablep337: yes, but i cant find what driver it uses.04:14
sharnok...04:14
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GameOver69auto wlan?04:14
jawshoewahhmm im not familiar with aptitude04:15
liableGameOver69: in your interfaces file?04:15
GameOver69yes04:15
bobbyjawshoewah, it is just a command line version of synaptic04:15
jawshoewahapt-get?04:15
p337http://tinyurl.com/ctsom  thats the one i installed04:15
liablea\\\gto have it come up at boot with dhcp?04:15
bobbyjawshoewah, it is another (more advanced imo) version of apt-get04:15
liablep337: yes, but what is the module called?04:15
p337liable: something to do with realtek04:15
jawshoewahso will it check compatibility without installing?04:16
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bobbyjawshoewah, of course04:16
GameOver69what do i enter in interfaces liable?04:16
p337liable: i think it was rt250004:16
jawshoewahwow04:16
jawshoewahi need to learn that04:16
theverantwhoa... help crashed04:16
liablep337: thts for your wireless..04:16
sharnthat one didnt do anything do i need to do the remount afterwards too?04:16
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liableGameOver69: to come up at boot with dhcp?04:16
LaserJockwhat do I need to send email via console?04:16
p337liable: lol... oh really04:16
bobbyjawshoewah, aptitude also checks to see if there are any packages that you aren't using any more either, so it tends to keep your system cleaner - but it is a bit confusing for newer users04:16
p337liable: then i haveno idea....04:17
jawshoewahis there a good wiki for it?04:17
flodineanyone have a intel 945 chip running ubuntu04:17
GameOver69i dont see any of that04:17
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GameOver69im a newb sorry if i sound stupid04:17
bobbyjawshoewah, I am not aware, man aptitude has all you need, but it is basically the same as apt-get...so like aptitude install package, aptitude search package etc04:17
benplautthere one big, huge, fatal flaw in middle-click paste04:17
benplautyou highlight something, then highlight what you want it to replace, and it gets rid of the first highlight >_>04:18
jawshoewahis it included in ubuntu kernel04:18
liablep337: poke around in /lib/modules/(your kernel)04:18
bobbyjawshoewah, included in the kernel? no...but it comes with ubuntu04:18
p337liable: alright04:18
liablesharn: no04:18
liablesharn: thats fine04:18
flodineanyone have a intel 945 chip running ubuntu need to know if it works ok04:18
sharnif i reinstall windows with keeping all the old stuff is it going to do that or is it gonna be cinfused?04:18
liablesharn: please address me so i dont miss your comments04:18
jawshoewahso what is the command line for it?04:18
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GameOver69liable: i dont see aynthing aobut boot in interfaces04:19
flodineanyone have pci express on ubuntu04:19
slashxhey04:19
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p337liable: well i am in there, what should i be looking for?04:19
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slashx1896forgot i was on this one04:19
slashx1896:P04:19
Gunfusdoes anyone know how to put my computer in standby?04:19
flodineok is ubuntu for old computers or what04:19
Gunfusor suspend it..?04:19
korptix_hi i need help i just installed linux and i wanna install GCC04:19
korptix_i download it and cant seem to work it out.04:19
slashx1896how do i make a certian file executable on root through terminal?04:19
Gunfuskorptix_, execute 'sudo apt-get gcc'04:20
slashx1896cause i cant normmaly so i gotta do sudo something04:20
korptix_sorry?04:20
Gunfusanyone..? computer to standby..?04:20
jawshoewahbobby: what is the command line text to run it?04:20
korptix_file name is gcc-4.0.2.tar.bz204:20
liablep337: /lib/modules/2.6.14.2/kernel/sound/pci/    look for rlt or something04:20
Gunfuskorptix_, if you have ubuntus just open a terminal and execute 'sudo apt-get gcc'04:20
liablesharn: sudo chroot /rescue04:20
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korptix_k04:20
slashx1896whats the sudo command to edit files and make it exexcutable, ?04:20
GameOver69liable?04:21
liablesharn: chmod04:21
liableslashx1896: ^^04:21
korptix_execute 'sudo apt-get gcc'04:21
korptix_korptix@korptix:~/Desktop/objdir$ execute 'sudo apt-get gcc'04:21
korptix_bash: execute: command not found04:21
liableslashx1896: ignore that last comment04:21
slashx1896lol04:21
flodinecan someone tell me if ubuntu will load on new 64 bit dual core stuff04:21
SweetestSavagekorptix04:21
slashx1896wasnt for me..04:21
SweetestSavagekorptix, just type sudo apt-get gcc04:21
slashx1896:\04:21
liableslashx1896: shit, sorry, you do it.04:21
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GameOver69liable: i dont see anything about boot in interfaces?04:21
korptix_k04:21
liablesharn: you ignore the last comment04:21
slashx1896liable, im confused lol04:21
p337liable: http://pastebin.com/49877304:21
slashx1896ahh04:21
slashx1896so04:21
slashx1896chmod?04:22
liableslashx1896: nick tab misfires..04:22
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korptix_korptix@korptix:~/Desktop/objdir$ sudo apt-get gcc04:22
korptix_Password:04:22
korptix_E: Invalid operation gcc04:22
korptix_korptix@korptix:~/Desktop/objdir$04:22
liablesharn: ???04:22
slashx1896liable, was chmod sent to me?04:22
korptix_..04:22
liableslashx1896: yes04:22
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SweetestSavagekorptix_, oh whoops sorry, sudo apt-get install gcc04:22
Gunfuskorptix_, type int eh password for your user ID04:22
sharnliable: i dunno if this helps but when i installed it with the default loader it said error 16 or 1704:22
liablep337: you need to go kernel/sound/pci ls04:23
Gunfusanyone suspend my PC..?04:23
liablesharn: where are you up to?04:23
korptix_k04:23
gpmhi. i just upgraded to dapper. my ipod used to mount automagically, now it shows up fine, but i have to mount it myself. is there anything i can do to get it to automount like it used to?04:23
korptix_how do i upgrad e ubuntu04:23
korptix_?04:23
p337liable: i didnt see a sound directory04:23
slashx1896liable, chmod, what?04:23
liableGameOver69: you want it load at boot or not?04:23
GameOver69yes04:23
liableslashx1896: whatever file you want04:23
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narlesi have no idea how to open this file... blank.jar04:23
liableGameOver69: with dhcp?04:23
sharnliable: am i supposed to type chmod?04:23
liablesharn: no04:24
gpmnarles: man java04:24
korptix_how do i upgrade ubuntu?04:24
GameOver69liable: but i dont see anything of what ur talking about in interfaces04:24
sharnliable: dangit im lost04:24
liablesharn: did you do the chroot?04:24
SweetestSavagekorptix_, what version are you running?04:24
Madpilotnarles: "java -jar foo.jar" in a terminal04:24
sharnliable: i didnt see that04:24
gpmnarles: basically, java -jar blank.jar04:24
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liableGameOver69: just answer my question and i'll tell you what to add.04:24
LittleBootIs it just me?  It seems like Ubuntu has no root account.04:24
slashx1896liable: chmod: too few arguments04:24
GameOver69liable: yes i want it at boot04:24
liableGameOver69: /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz04:24
gpmLittleBoot: yes04:24
_jasonubotu, tell LittleBoot about root04:25
liableslashx1896: chmod +x04:25
korptix_i dotn know04:25
korptix_*dont know04:25
liableGameOver69: you use dhcp?04:25
narlesFailed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from OT44src.jar04:25
GameOver69yes04:25
GameOver69liable:yes04:25
liableGameOver69: whats the iface name? wlan0?04:25
sharnliable: so type chroot?04:25
GameOver69liable: yes04:26
liablesharn: no04:26
narleswhen i do java -jar blank,jar.. i get Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from OT44src.jar04:26
sharndangit04:26
liablesharn: sudo chroot /rescue04:26
korptix_SweetestSavage: i dont know!!!04:26
sharnok ty04:26
liableGameOver69: two lines04:26
SweetestSavagekorptix_, to update use sudo apt-get update, and then type sudo apt-get upgrade04:26
liableGameOver69: auto wlan004:26
slashx1896liable, k thanks, and also the file has a lil lock sign how do i get rid of it04:26
korptix_k04:26
liableGameOver69: ifacw wlan0 inet dhcp04:26
liableGameOver69: err iface04:26
SweetestSavageQuestion: How stable is Dapper Drake? I've been pondering in dist-updgrading04:27
GameOver69liable: put this at the end of the document04:27
SweetestSavageupgrading*04:27
sharnliable: k now it says root@ubuntu04:27
slashx1896liable, or what does it mean04:27
liableslashx1896: you dont have read perm04:27
sharnliable: is that what it was supposed to do?04:27
liablesharn: yep04:27
sharnok04:27
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liablesharn: grub-install /dev/hda04:27
liablesharn: sudo in front of that04:28
nemikhave any of you attending university gotten wpa_supplicant to work with your network? driving me crazy over here04:28
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liablep337: ??04:28
korptix_korptix@korptix:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get update04:28
korptix_Reading package lists... Done04:28
korptix_korptix@korptix:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get upgrade04:28
korptix_Reading package lists... Done04:28
korptix_Building dependency tree... Done04:28
korptix_0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.04:28
korptix_korptix@korptix:~/Desktop$04:28
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GameOver69liable: this all goes at the end of th document?04:28
korptix_and04:28
korptix_korptix@korptix:~/Desktop$ uname -a04:28
korptix_Linux korptix 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux04:28
korptix_korptix@korptix:~/Desktop$04:28
kyncani#FLOOD !!!04:29
narleswhen i do java -jar blank,jar.. i get Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from OT44src.jar04:29
korptix_..04:29
liableGameOver69: under the eth0 stuff04:29
liableGameOver69: doesnt really matter actually04:29
GameOver69liable: ok i will try now04:29
liableGameOver69: then paste it04:29
korptix_well?04:30
sharnliable: unable to lookup ubunto vie gethostbyname()04:30
sharnliable: via*04:30
korptix_also is there any p2p software for linux ?04:30
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liablesharn: ok, thats when you ran grub-install?04:31
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alekandrI beg of someone, needed help before explosion :(04:31
sharnliable: yes04:31
_jasonalekandr, we can try if you ask a question04:31
timfrostubotu tell korptix_ about pastebin04:31
alekandrI just rebooted after being a dick and trying to open a 500mb sh file and freezing pretty much everything due to cpuoverload04:31
narleswhen i do java -jar blank,jar.. i get Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from OT44src.jar... how do i fix this04:31
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alekandrand now ive logged back in (breezy gnome) and it keeps fucking making this noise04:32
liablesharn: ok, sudo mount /proc04:32
alekandrlike a fairy tinkle04:32
p337liable: lol... i accidently switched over to the kubuntu channle and i thought you had left....04:32
alekandrand wont go away04:32
alekandrnothing is running, so where is this sound coming from?04:32
korptix_..04:32
timfrostkorptix_, can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list (see the message from ubotu).04:32
_jasonalekandr, you try rebooting?04:32
goosehey guys... http://www.ubuntu.com/Screenshots   <-- i am pretty sure this did not look like this earlier04:32
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alekandri just did _jason04:33
p337liable: there is no /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-286/sound though04:33
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goosehas it been hacked or something?04:33
liablep337: did you find anything?04:33
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sharnliable: says the same thing as grub-install04:33
liablep337: /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/sound...04:33
p337hahaha04:33
p337oh...04:33
p337man.. i am a little slow today04:33
GameOver69liable: didnt work04:34
p337liable: ok im there04:34
p337liable: drivers?04:34
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liablep337: pci04:34
alekandroh man04:34
alekandr:( tinkled again04:34
sharnyou know im om a diff comp let me get on on the one im working on04:34
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liableGameOver69: buuger, try ifup wlan0 (paste the file)04:34
_jasonalekandr, you heard the twinkle and then rebooted again and it persisted?  have you tried a different user?04:34
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p337liable: i dont see a pci maybe pcmcia?04:34
Linux2how stable is kubuntu?04:35
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alekandr_jason: there is only one account ;)04:35
liablep337: not pcmcia, but poka around anyway..04:35
GameOver69liable: what do u mean paste the file?04:35
liableGameOver69: put it on a paster04:35
liableGameOver69: the contents04:35
puffAnybody remember where in /etc the iptables config would be?04:35
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p337liable: should i paste the ls?04:36
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sampanlinuxmonk  kubuntu is stable as long as you don't install the testing version (dapper) -- stick with breezy and it's fine04:36
_jasonalekandr, get rid of the ubuntu startup sound and see if it goes away when you restart X.  The twinkle sounds like that could be it04:36
koruptprydeanybody know the package name to get the perl package manager installed   (ppm)04:36
liablep337: no, just look for realtek looking modules :)04:36
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LinuxMonkyeah im debating between gentoo and kubuntu04:36
puffSpecifically, I'm trying to use a local proxy server and it seems to be having trouble getting out, I'm wondering if maybe I have a tcp/ip level firewall blocking it.04:37
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GameOver69liable: i cant find the file you speak of04:37
liablepuff: ubuntu doesnt have one by default04:37
sampanlinuxmonk  well kubuntu will be installed faster that's for sure -- no need to compile it all ;)04:37
LinuxMonki got the base of gentoo installed but seing how many apps id have to manually install has me scared04:37
ubuntu_ok liable i am on the comp im having troubles on04:37
KnowerrorsHey all, just installed opera deb from plf repos, all plugins working except acrobat, can anybody help?  I used the advice on this wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser?highlight=%28opera%29 about it and still didn't work04:37
liableGameOver69: the interfaces file! where did you write those two lines i gave you?04:37
johnnybezakToma: ok i'll give xgamma a go04:37
puffI don't see anything obvious in "sudo iptables --list"04:38
GameOver69liable: the interacfe file04:38
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gpmhi. i just upgraded to dapper. my ipod used to mount automagically, now it shows up fine, but i have to mount it myself. is there anything i can do to get it to automount like it used to?04:38
necroni'm trying to make a bootdisk with sbootmgr.disk with rawritewin, why is my disk still not booting04:38
jdcaserockiesWhat's the right driver to use for an ATI radeon 9800 pro?04:38
liablesharn: why did you leave?04:38
p337liable:  well... im gonna work on this later... i am too tired right now04:38
LinuxMonksince im gonna wanna do some different stuff with my server i'll just go forward to kubuntu04:38
p337liable: thanks for your help04:38
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liablep337: righto, no problem04:39
jdcaserockieswhat driver should be used for ati video cards?04:39
puffliable: Ah, thanks... any other reason it would be blocked?  I'm getting an answer from the local proxy server, but the proxy is reporting unable to get through on port 80 to anhwere.04:39
errranyone happen to know which font package contains "matto"04:39
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liableGameOver69: paste the contents of your interfaces file04:39
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jawshoewahusing tar is extremley frustrating04:39
GameOver69liable: paste it into the command terminal?04:39
liablepuff: not your isp??04:39
liable!paste04:39
ubotupaste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text04:39
sharn8liable: ok this is sharn on the compi am working on04:39
liableGameOver69: ^^04:39
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johnnybezakToma: haha it's much brighter, it's hard to tell if it's too bright though because I'm not used to it looking so bright04:39
liablesharn8: on the ubuntu one?04:40
LinuxMonksampan does kubuntu support software raid fairly easely?04:40
sharn8yes04:40
GameOver69liable: im on another computer if u want me to paste it in here for you04:40
puffliable: Yeah, pretty sure not.  From the networks' point of view it's just another http client, no?04:40
sharn8liable: yes in case you didnt catch it04:40
sampanlinuxmonk  i dunno about raid -- but the software support seems good to me04:41
liablesharn8: /j #liable04:41
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liablepuff: hrm dunno04:41
Toma-johnnybezak: cool :) try different number values04:41
necronusing rawritewin - and i choose 'sbootmgr.dsk' - click 'write' - disk doesn't boot - am i missing something?04:41
liableGameOver69: ifup wlan0 does nothing?04:41
LinuxMonki guess its like ubuntu but kde instead of gnome right04:41
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sampanlinuxmonk  yep.  you can get there either by just installing kubuntu or by installing ubuntu and then installing kubuntu-desktop (metapackage).  second way gives you kde and gnome.04:42
johnnybezakToma-: it seems like it's mainly my blacks that are so dark, do you know any other things to tweek?04:42
GameOver69liable: i put that in interfaces or in the terminal?04:42
LinuxMonkyeah i dont like gnome as much04:43
LinuxMonkim used to kde04:43
Toma-johnnybezak: yeh, that xgamma command can turnup just individual colours too, eg, r g b04:43
LinuxMonkhehe being i'm on it at work 7 to 8 hours a day thanks to me.04:43
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sampanlinuxmonk  me too, flexibility is a good thing!  :)  #kubuntu is a smaller chan (which is both good and bad -- less frenetic than here, but sometimes less people around to help too)04:44
liableGameOver69: terminal, sudo first04:44
johnnybezakToma-: wow you're a life saver man, i was considering cracking the top off it04:44
jawshoewahok I really need help installing programs from tar.gz it's insanely unorthodox04:44
LinuxMonkyeah see if I need any support it be regarding the base system and kernel so no worries there04:44
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damasta./configure04:45
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Toma-haha. my monitor went on the brink a few months ago and i just put up with it, till i cranked the gamma, it had a new lease on life ;)04:45
GameOver69liable: says too few paramaters for iface line04:45
damastamake04:45
damastasudo make install04:45
GameOver69liable: ifup: coudlnt read interfaces file04:45
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nekostaroi :D04:45
timfrostjawshoewah, what are you trying to install?04:45
johnnybezakToma-: what do you think i should tweak for making the darker colours brighter?04:45
Toma-gimp ;)04:45
liableGameOver69: well, i need to see that file04:45
nekostaranyone got a good link for custom openbox menus and a panel?04:45
jawshoewahastrolog and a plugin for rythmbox04:46
Toma-johnnybezak: you mean like contrast?04:46
nekostar[a way to autoexecute the panel with openbox plz]  :D04:46
GameOver69liable: well if we can get any of my 2 wireless connectiosn to work or my ethernet then i can04:46
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timfrostjawshoewah, have you built software on othe linux/unix systems before?04:46
liableGameOver69: plug in your ethernet, run ifconfig eth0 up, dhclient eth004:46
jawshoewahno04:46
duckdownHey all.. I'm trying to compile a KDE ftp client, but its saying KDE headers not found04:47
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duckdownwhich package is that04:47
GameOver69liable: in terminal w/. sudo?04:47
liableGameOver69: yes04:47
jawshoewahi aspire to be able to write software someday04:47
necronwhen i do "rawrite -f sboogmgr.dsk" why does my floppy still not boot04:47
johnnybezakToma-: yeah i suppose so :P04:47
duckdownAlso, is there any way to get more packages?  Tons of KDE apps I'm interested in aren't in aptitude :(04:47
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johnnybezakduckdown: like what?04:48
revmoohey guys.......I have a really annoying problem. When i took out my soundcard and switched back to the motherboards builtin soundcard I lost the ability to control the volume with the volume slider in the tray. None of the items I select(there is master mono but no stereo wtf?) enable me to adjust the volume. Please help this has been bothering me for a while now.04:48
Toma-johnnybezak: you could probably use a different colour map? never done that before04:48
duckdownjohnnybezak: for starters an FTP client.. kbear or kasablanca04:48
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duckdownneither are in adept04:48
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Toma-duckdown: have you enabled universe?04:48
Toma-!info kbear04:48
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ubotukbear: (graphical ftp client for KDE), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.1.1-9build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2416 kB, Installed size: 8568 kB04:48
duckdowni just did a bare 650mb install and im missing TONS of stuff from aptitude and i dont know why04:48
johnnybezakduckdown: you haven't set up apt properly04:48
duckdownToma-: ohh i knew i was missing something huge04:49
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Toma-duckdown: teeehehehe ;D04:49
duckdownToma-: where can I read up on how to do that?04:49
Toma-!universe04:49
johnnybezakduckdown: open up your sources.list and uncomment universe and multiverse04:49
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource04:49
duckdownI'm a new user =)04:49
duckdownThank you sir04:49
Toma-no probs chap04:49
timfrostIf you have installed build-essential, the steps are: extract (tar xvzf file.tgz or tar xvjf file.tar.bz2); configure (./configure); compile (make); install (sudo make install)04:49
GameOver69liable: can u give me that command again plz for the ethernet04:49
johnnybezakToma-: how do you do that?04:49
Toma-pssssssst, dont use make isntall. use "checkinstall"04:49
Toma-johnnybezak: no idea. :/04:50
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revmoohey guys.......I have a really annoying problem. When i took out my soundcard and switched back to the motherboards builtin soundcard I lost the ability to control the volume with the volume slider in the tray. None of the items I select(there is master mono but no stereo wtf?) enable me to adjust the volume. Please help this has been bothering me for a while now.04:50
liableGameOver69: sudo ifconfig eth0 up && dhclient eth004:50
stormthis is one good page http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9267204:51
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stormGood afternoon everyone04:51
Toma-plf make debs now?04:51
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stormthis is my first time in Ubuntu IRC04:51
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__mikemCould someone help me with a bit of printer trouble04:52
uber_spacedis there an mplayer apt package?04:52
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_jasonubotu, tell uber_spaced about mplayer04:52
bimberirevmoo: System -> Preferences -> Sound, is Default Sound Card set right?04:52
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stormi dont know about sources.list, but the link i pasted above (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92672)04:52
uber_spaced_jason, thanks04:52
stormgives very good one04:52
__mikemI need help with a bit if printer trouble04:52
necronoh crud, it hurts so bad... 3 hours later and i still don't have the system booted... might as well buy suse04:53
jawshoewahok the help file in the package has NO information on installation neither does website....i have verified it is an authenitc program functional on my system i have done the tar unpake i am in its directory there is no ./configure available04:53
__mikemanyone?04:53
GameOver69liable: two things.... one my wireless light just went on my laptop.. but still doesnt work...s ame problem04:53
stormwhat is your printer trouble04:53
_jasonjawshoewah, what are you installing?04:53
GameOver69liable: and i get this after i did what u told me04:53
jawshoewahastrolog04:53
_jason__mikem, have you tried linuxprinting.org?04:53
GameOver69liable: no DHCPoffers received04:53
GameOver69liable: no working leases in persistant database - sleeping04:53
liableGameOver69: then double check your router has dhcp server running04:53
__mikemThankyou, basicly, I installed the printer, and it wouldn't print a test page, so I went into the printer properties04:53
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tr011_hi every body04:54
__mikemand found that the user name and password supplied (this printer is over a LAN) was not what I specified when installing the printer04:54
__mikemso I reset the password, and printed the test page, and it worked fine04:54
Toma-jawshoewah: what package did you download?04:54
__mikemthen I opened OpenOffice and tried to print from there, and it didn't work04:54
timfrostjawshoewah, astrolog is in the breezy repositroy, if you enable multiverse.04:54
jawshoewahits version 5.2004:55
__mikemI went back tothe printer properties (on a hunch) and found that the user name/ password was again nolonger set to what I specified04:55
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Frederickfolks wich is ubuntu equivalent to dhcpcd?04:55
jawshoewahI have multiverse enabled but im noob when it comes to finding what I want i also have breezy i believe04:55
Toma-oh no! im late for work :/ *gone*04:55
__mikemdid you get all that04:55
LinuxMonklmao04:56
duckdownCool I just had to click some stuff in Synaptic for Universe?04:56
duckdownHow convenient :-D04:56
uber_spacedi have my sources.list open and I cant find multiverse in there; where do i enable multiverse?04:56
__mikemdid anyone read all that04:56
jawshoewahso i can find it in update manager?04:56
damastaAdd it to the end of the universe line04:56
stormyeah i read04:56
_jasonuber_spaced, pastebin your sources.list04:56
duckdownDo I need MULTIVERSE too?04:56
stormi am still thinking04:56
_jasonubotu, tell uber_spaced about pastebin04:56
Frederickduckdown, nope04:56
damastaYou don't need it but it may be of use04:57
duckdownhmm.04:57
__mikemany ideas how to get it to use the username/password I specify rather than reseting it every time I close properties?04:57
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duckdownno multiverse entries in Synaptic04:57
duckdown:-(04:57
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necrondoes anyone have a guide for creating a bootable smart boot manager floppy other than the one at wiki.ubuntu.com?04:57
_jasonduckdown, you have to go to "add" when you are selecting repos and enable multiverse04:57
_jasonubotu, tell duckdown about repos04:57
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narleswhen i do java -jar blank,jar.. i get Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from OT44src.jar... how do i fix this?04:58
duckdownThanks I'll do some reading :)04:58
__mikemplease, I really need this printer up04:58
jawshoewahubot, tell jawshoewah about repos04:58
uber_spacedhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d686904:58
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jawshoewahubotu, tell jawshoewah about repos04:58
__mikemstorm04:58
__mikem?04:58
stormyeah04:59
uber_spacedrather, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/686904:59
stormgive me a while04:59
stormby the way, have u google for help04:59
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__mikemYup, I got nothing on the problem04:59
__mikemfrom google04:59
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_jasonuber_spaced, add the word " multiverse" to the end of lines 20,21,26, and 2704:59
necroncan anyone give me help with a non-standard problematic install? can't boot off CD! only been working on this for 3 hours now!05:00
stormwhat is your smb.conf05:00
z|banditoare there known issues with ubuntu live on amd64 dual core cpu's?05:00
__mikemhow do I find out05:00
z|banditoi can't get the live cd to boot05:00
uber_spacedsweet05:00
uber_spacedthanks05:00
_jasonuber_spaced,  be sure to run 'sudo apt-get update' once you finish05:00
Frederickfolks wich is the equivalent to pump at ubuntu?05:00
_jasonuber_spaced, np05:01
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revmoobimberi: yes, the sound card is set as default as it should be (sorry for the delay)05:01
kyncaniFrederick: dhclient :D05:01
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kyncani:))05:01
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revmooim getting sound, listening to mp3s now, i just cant use the volume slider applet to control anything05:01
__mikemstorm, how do I check smb.conf05:02
jawshoewahany help with this install would be awesomely recieved05:02
jawshoewahhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6870\05:02
bimberirevmoo: ok (it was a bit of a guess) and np (i lost my connection anyway :) )05:02
jawshoewahhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/687005:02
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revmoohehe05:02
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ethanhi05:02
ethanhi05:02
ethanhi05:02
revmoosup ethan05:02
uber_spaced_jason, it's getting the multiverse stuff :)05:02
ethanhi revmoo = )05:02
uber_spacedif you have any perl questions or anything, lemme know.05:03
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__mikemgetting tech support from this room is about as easy as performing dental work on an aligator05:03
stormi think it is under /usr/share/samba05:03
revmooalso while im here, does anyone know a good multi-monitor guide? i have a dualhead 680005:03
__mikemthanks05:03
necron__mikem: i agree05:03
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__mikemyes it is05:03
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_jasonjawshoewah, have you read the readme?05:04
__mikemok, I have it open, what line specificly do you want me to check05:04
robotgeek__mikem: i'll bite, what are you having problems with?05:04
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jawshoewahyes theree is no instructions for install im at synaptic i found it there I am going to see if it will do it for me as much as i want to learn how to use tar05:05
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__mikemI am trying to install a printer over a lan, and I can't get it to save the username/password I type in05:05
saotome_ok05:05
saotome_disclaimer:05:05
GameOver69liable: it works because im on a computer thats running off it now... this05:05
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saotome_please stop me when i start saying something very stupid05:05
_jasonjawshoewah, try cd src and then run make05:06
z|banditostop!!05:06
__mikemevery time, I enter the correct username/password in the properties, I can print a test page fine, but the moment I close properties, the changes are disguarded05:06
MrPocketswhats the command to restart the gnome panel?05:06
jawshoewahthanks jason will do05:06
pschulz01Is there a 'nice' way to copy files between systems as root? I'm used to 'tar' but how do I get access to a system as root to do this?05:06
MrPocketskillall -hu gnome-panel?05:06
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_jasonMrPockets, killall gnome-panel will do just fine too05:06
z|banditohi.  are there any known issues with ubuntu on amd 64, specifically dual core cpu?05:07
liableGameOver69: well, its not getting a lease from the server.. try another client05:07
pschulz01eg. ssh root@host tar cjvf - -C dir . | tar xjpvf -05:07
z|banditoand is this the real #ubuntu or the 'not identified' channel?  or is it all the same now?05:07
MrPocketsthanks05:07
DJLILYAZI_jason, hi jason i dont know what to do with the live cd from the last time u told me05:07
GameOver69liable: by antoher client what od u mean?05:07
liabledh3client, pump05:07
DJLILYAZI_jason, since i had no admin when i typed the "groups" command05:07
GameOver69liable: i had no problems yestyerday with my internal wireless card... worked perefectly05:07
_jasonDJLILYAZI, were you the one that need to add himself to the admin group05:07
Kr0ntabanyone using Kubuntu abd GnuCash?  GnuCash does not remember window positioning or size... and I'm trying to figure out how to get KDE's window specific properties to maximize the GnuCash window upon opening it.05:07
liableGameOver69: i dunno if you have them installed05:07
GameOver69liable: when i installed the new card... worked perfectly05:08
liableGameOver69: dunno then sorry05:08
_jasonDJLILYAZI, are you on the livecd now?05:08
GameOver69liable: when i restarted.... nothing05:08
DJLILYAZI_jason, "herself" but yes05:08
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DJLILYAZI_jason, no i will do will be in one min05:08
DJLILYAZI_jason, wait ok ?05:08
_jasonDJLILYAZI, sure05:08
GameOver69liable: is there anyway i can enable it without boot..... i dont understand why it doesnt work anymore05:08
K_DallasHi guys! I read about dyne:bolic (http://dynebolic.org/) on /. today, downloaded it and boot from it and got this question: what have i to change in ubuntu to get at least the same speed on launching programs and .. as I get from a live dynebolic distro? (knoppix does not offer the same speed) thanks05:08
Kr0ntabI talked to the deveoper... and window positioning will be introduced in the next major release....  so Im trying to find a way to do it otherwise until then.05:09
__mikemI expected that Robotgeek would try helping me when I told him what the problem was, but I guess its foolish to have such optomistic preminissions around here05:09
Kr0ntabdeveloper*05:09
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robotgeek__mikem: hmm, did you hilite me?05:09
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stormHAHAH05:09
liableGameOver69: the only thing i can think of is to set a static ip.05:09
stormby the way, are u sharing the printer with window user05:09
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Lockewhat is the best distro of Linux for a slow computer.... and i mean... SLOOOOW, 133 MHz, all i'm looking for is command line and internet capable05:09
drcurl /join #kde05:09
robotgeek__mikem: anyways, i scrolled up, i dunno anything about printers, sorry05:09
stormrobo05:10
GameOver69liable: how do i do that05:10
necronrobotgeek: can i got next?05:10
sethkLocke, it isn't a distro.  it's just a matter of installing only the minimal amount of stuff05:10
__mikemyes05:10
__mikemI am05:10
liableGameOver69: with ifconfig and route.05:10
robotgeeknecron: sure :)05:10
Lockesethk: well, when i installed Ubuntu it didn't have the largest selection of options05:10
stormcheck out this site: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/30005:10
sethkLocke, you didn't install in expert mode05:10
liableGameOver69: ifconfig 192.168.x.x wlan0 up05:11
stormpersonally i am not using ANY window machine on my network05:11
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necronrobotgeek: heh, thanks - trying to get sbootmgr onto a cd so i can start my install05:11
Lockesethk: ah, true, ok05:11
stormwindow sometimes suck05:11
liableGameOver69: route add default gw 192.168.x.105:11
sethkLocke, I like slackware for minimal05:11
robotgeeknecron: sbootmgr?05:11
stormso i dont face printer problem yer05:11
stormyet05:11
sethkLocke, but, really, if you are careful you'll get about the same results from all05:11
necronrobotgeek: smart boot manager, if you have a way to get the cd going without a bootable cd drive i'd welcome suggestions05:12
__mikemThis artical, doesn't address the problem I am having05:12
stormmikem, did u get my link?05:12
necronrobotgeek: the cd is bootable, just not from the ubuntu cd05:12
__mikemyES05:12
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__mikemI looked at it05:12
Lockesethk: well, i just want something to put as a file server, i have an ooooold Dell optiron and i was just gonna use it to hold all my music05:12
GameOver69liable: do u think uninstalling ndiswrapper would help05:12
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anandaputratalking bout printer.. how to share a printer in my ubuntu box using cups? when i add a new printer in ubuntu box, is tahat automaticaly shared by cups??05:12
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robotgeeknecron: bootable cdrom or *cd*. AFAIK, there's nothing like a bootable cdrom05:13
revmoosomeone tell me about dual displays on nvidia05:13
Crema10hello, do i have to download a css package to watch DVDs on Xine?05:13
liableGameOver69: i dunno. run ifconfig -a and take down all the cards except your wired one (ifconfig eth0 down)05:13
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robotgeekrevmoo: xinerama, i think. i dunno more than that05:13
revmook05:13
lemurWhat is the package name for all the dev tools?05:13
necronrobotgeek: sorry, my cd drive is bootable, but i can't boot the ubuntu cd with it (nor can i boot an XP cd) I can boot SuSE 9.105:13
__mikemI will say again, the problem is, I go into properties, I give it the correct username/password, successfully print a test page. THen I close properties. SUddenly, printing doesn't work. I go back into properties, and find that it is still not using the username/password I specified05:14
robotgeeknecron: did you burn the cd yourself??05:14
cafuegolemur: the basics are in build-essential.05:14
necronrobogeek: yes, and it boots on my main machine just fine05:14
cafuegolemur: You may aso need dpkg-dev05:14
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lemurcafuego: why thank you05:14
stormhey mikem, i think you type your problem into a text editor. Then whenever u need to repeat, just copy and paste05:14
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robotgeeknecron: interesting, so it doesn't work on the PC you are trying to installing?05:15
GameOver69liable: for iconfig it says command not found05:15
__mikemyes very nice, but a solution to my problem would be good05:15
liableGameOver69: sudo05:15
robotgeekGameOver69: ifconfig05:15
DJLILYAZI_jason, hi05:15
necronrobotgeek: correct, i've been trying to make a bootdisk that lets me use the cd drive, but can't get it to boot (sbootmgr.dsk to a floppy using rawrite)05:15
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storm*hahha... unfortunately i didnt meet this problem... so i am just helping you with what i know05:16
dooglusthe unrar-nonfree package has disappeared.  it was in breezy, but not in dapper.  is that deliberate?  and if so, where can I find it?05:16
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_jasonDJLILYAZI, hi, can you mount your partition ok?05:16
WhyvasLTTHE ANSWER IS 7!!!!!05:16
benplautis there any way to compile notepad2 for linux? it looks like an awesome editor05:16
cafuegolemur: because I helped?05:16
lemurcafuego: of course05:16
_jasonWhyvasLT, 7*6 you mean05:16
DJLILYAZI_jason, i am on LIVEEE CD NOW :)05:16
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GameOver69liable: ok it shows a list of my internet connectiosn05:17
WhyvasLTNO05:17
DJLILYAZI_jason, so what do i have to do now ?05:17
WhyvasLTTHE ANSWER IS 7!!!!!05:17
robotgeeknecron: so, you are trying to make a boot flopppy05:17
w00tzhi05:17
w00tzi download WINR05:17
robotgeekWhyvasLT: please stop spamming05:17
cafuegobenplaut: Does it use gtk?05:17
w00tz*WINE05:17
saotome_any mysql knowledgeable people here?05:17
Crema10damn, Xine froze on me.. my DVD wont even eject.. what do i do?05:17
benplautcafuego: i doubt it05:17
w00tzand i get this error when i go to edit the file05:17
saotome_the poeople in the mysql channel aren't very warm05:17
liableGameOver69: ifconfig xxx0 down, except the wired one05:17
dooglussaotome_: some, but not as many as in #mysql...05:17
w00tz [ Error writing /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied ] 05:17
liableGameOver69: and except lo05:17
necronrobotgeek: only because i saw it as my only alternative to trying to get a cd to boot... i think i can boot off the network card too but i've never attepted it05:17
MadpilotCrema10: try "sudo eject" in a terminal] 05:17
saotome_dooglus: precisely my problem05:17
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_jasonDJLILYAZI, do you know where your linux partition is? hda1? hda2? etc?05:17
w00tzhttp://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb05:17
saotome_dooglus: just came from there05:17
dooglusw00tz: use "sudo gedit" to edit it05:17
w00tzk05:18
benplautmy holy-grail text editor: gedit + option to disable tabs +option to rename tabs + movable toolbar icons + windows support05:18
dooglussaotome_: so what's up?05:18
stormone more thing mikem, are u using gnome?05:18
w00tzso whats the whole command ?05:18
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Crema10Madpilot: i'm a newbie, whats the command?05:18
FlannelKingsaotome_, Ive found #sql to be more friendly than mysql, but whats the problem?05:18
DJLILYAZI_jason, hda205:18
necronrobotgeek: i'm just trying to install, if you have other options to what i'm doing i'm open to suggestion05:18
robotgeeknecron: www.etherboot.org, i think05:18
cafuegobenplaut: Too bad bbedit only runs on OSX :-(05:18
saotome_dooglus: can i put a case statement inside a create view05:18
saotome_is that legal?05:18
_jasonDJLILYAZI, ok, mount that somewhere05:18
DJLILYAZI_jason, sorry but how i am a newbie...sorry...05:18
dooglussaotome_: that's more advanced than me :)05:18
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GameOver69liable: do i also put "lo" down as well05:19
saotome_lol05:19
benplautcafuego: aye :(05:19
saotome_don't underestimate yourself05:19
dooglussaotome_: I didn't know SQL had a case statement...05:19
liableGameOver69: nope05:19
saotome_not very advanced myself05:19
saotome_yep05:19
saotome_basically it's an if05:19
GameOver69liable: ok done then05:19
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saotome_just different syntax05:19
necronrobotgeek: right on, i'll give that a whirl... thanks for the help05:19
robotgeeknecron: try the netinstall, i guess. i havent managedto get it install that way when i tried 6 months ago05:19
_jasonDJLILYAZI, np, open up a terminal and do: sudo mkdir /mnt/linux05:19
liableGameOver69: the wired one is still up?05:19
w00tzdone05:19
saotome_FlannelKing: how about you?05:19
w00tznow i get this error05:19
w00tzE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)05:19
w00tzE: Unable to lock the list directory05:19
robotgeeknecron: no problem, keep me updated05:19
w00tzafter i typed "apt-get update"05:19
tr011w00tz, did you used 'sudo' ?05:19
w00tzyes05:20
robotgeekubotu: tell w00tz about sudo05:20
w00tzi edited it05:20
DJLILYAZI_jason, ok i did that05:20
w00tz..05:20
GameOver69liable: they all still show05:20
stormmikem, u still there?05:20
_jasonDJLILYAZI, ok now: mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/linux05:20
robotgeekw00tz: the sudoers file?05:20
w00tzwtf u on about ?05:20
w00tzit sayz i dont have root05:20
w00tzwhen i just installed the thing05:20
liableGameOver69: with ifconfig -a? or just ifconfig?05:20
__mikemyes05:20
tr011w00tz, and are you shure that you are not runing any other appz that use the apt ? like sinaptic ?05:20
w00tzi added myself i am root owner05:20
w00tzno05:20
GameOver69liable: with -a05:21
liableGameOver69: thats ok05:21
dooglussaotome_: what statements can you use 'case' with?05:21
damastatry sudo killall synaptic05:21
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GameOver69liable: so whats next05:21
damastathen apt-get update again05:21
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w00tzk05:21
liableGameOver69: what iface is left?05:21
robotgeekw00tz: what do you mean, " iadded myself to root"05:21
w00tzwtf do u mean05:21
w00tzi instaleld linux05:21
w00tzso arnt i root ?05:21
DJLILYAZI_jason, this is what i got ....mount: can't find /dev/hda2/mnt/linux in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab05:21
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sampanroots are for trees!  save the trees! use sudo!05:21
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robotgeeksampan: :)05:22
GameOver69liable: if by iface u mean ethernet... the only one i didnt get rid of is eth105:22
w00tzdamasta: not working05:22
sampan;X05:22
_jasonDJLILYAZI, you forgot the space after hda205:22
cafuegow00tz: You are root after you run 'sudo -i'05:22
saotome_dooglus: basically anything you can select05:22
dooglussaotome_: it looks like "create view" is very basic.  the syntax is simply "CREATE VIEW `test`.`v` AS select 1 AS `a`,2 AS `b`"05:22
saotome_dooglus: yep05:22
w00tzk one sec.05:22
damastaand you're typing sudo apt-get update right?05:22
liableGameOver69: actually, take it down for now05:22
sampanrobotgeek  it's a nice slogan, but a shame that it isn't more explanatory ;x05:22
dooglussaotome_: so that would suggest that the answer to your question is a resounding "no"05:22
DJLILYAZI_jason, you so right so i added it and i got .....mount: only root can do that05:22
liableGameOver69: whats your routers ip?05:23
_jasonDJLILYAZI, oops, use sudo05:23
w00tzok05:23
w00tzit worked05:23
w00tzit downloaded all the files now what?05:23
robotgeeksampan: heh, can't have everything05:23
GameOver69liable: ok took it odwn05:23
DJLILYAZI_jason, LOL we forgot lol05:23
FlannelKingno, create VIEW can have any select statement, but there are restrictions, does CASE count as a subquery?05:23
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damastaYou should be able to do whatever you downloaded.05:23
damastaWhat did you download?05:24
sampanrobotgeek  true!  compromises compromises.  ;D  i'll sloganize and leave the technical explanations to those who are actually qualified to give them! everyone wins!05:24
DJLILYAZI_jason, YAYYYYYYYY IT WORKED05:24
robotgeeksampan: :)05:24
_jasonDJLILYAZI, great now do: sudo gedit /mnt/linux/etc/group05:24
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w00tzso how do i use wine ?05:24
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FlannelKingsaotome_, as far as I can tell, CASE in a view is perfectly legal.05:25
liableGameOver69: sudo ifconfig eth0 up05:25
saotome_flannelking: yeah, i finally got it to work05:25
DJLILYAZI_jason, ok it opened gedit with that file too...05:25
saotome_flannelking: which brings me to my second question05:25
_jasonDJLILYAZI, do you see a line that starts with 'admin'05:25
damastaWine is difficult to use because it needs parameters alot of the time. But you type wine then whatever you're trying to run05:25
saotome_flannelking: i've heard that case statments can use up a lot of cpu05:25
damastawine iexplore.exe for erexample05:25
saotome_flannelking: in your experience, or from what you've heard, how true is this?05:26
saotome_flannelking: how much might this affect my performance?05:26
DJLILYAZI_jason, ya this one....admin:x:106:05:26
GameOver69liablrz; ok05:26
damastaw0005:26
_jasonDJLILYAZI, add your username to the end of that05:26
DJLILYAZI_jason, ok i did that05:27
damastaw00tz, I never had much success with basic wine. I always use crossover office's app.05:27
damastaor cedega05:27
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Crema10hey coz you there?05:27
FlannelKingsaotome_, no idea, I dont use mysql, benchmark and find out, that's probably the eisest way.05:27
DJLILYAZI_jason, so thats it ???05:27
_jasonDJLILYAZI, while we are on the livecd we can check sudoers, do: sudo grep admin /mnt/linux/etc/sudoers05:28
saotome_flannelking: yeah, you are probably right05:28
jeebesdoes anyone else have a problem where when they update the kernel is keeps removing windows from grub,05:28
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Crema10damn, he left  :(05:28
damastajeebes, yes I do05:28
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saotome_flannelking: do i need something in particular to check out the contents of the view?05:28
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damastaAnnoying05:28
jeebesya05:28
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koruptprydeokay, how do i mount an nfs share if the nfs server doesn't allow root but the mount command doesn't allow user level access?05:28
jeebesfor whatever reason it didn't happen last time I updated it05:28
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DJLILYAZI_jason, this is what i got...# Members of the admin group may gain root privileges05:28
DJLILYAZI%admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL05:28
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saotome_flannelking: i'm trying to select from it, and mysql is saying i can't perform that operation cuz it's not a talbe05:28
saotome_table*05:28
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Crema10I got an error in Xine: "The source can't be read. Maybe you dont have enough rights for this, or source doesnt contain data (e.g. not disc in drive). (Erro reading from DVD)"  can anybody tell me what that error is?05:29
_jasonDJLILYAZI, ok you should be good to go then.  reboot and try it out05:29
damastaIt did on mine. Still haven't check to see if I properly put the windows option back in05:29
saotome_mysql documentation on views is very limited, just a couple of paragrafs con the site05:29
DJLILYAZI_jason do i have to unmount ?05:29
_jasonDJLILYAZI, nah just reboot05:29
DJLILYAZI_jason, ok brb in 1 min05:29
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w00tzdamasta: Ok05:30
FlannelKingsaotome_, what's your SQL command?05:30
jeebesI've been trying to make a freind of mine think he was on a reality show for years, if anyone wants to help me drive him nuts post comments on http://freewilliam.blogspot.com/05:30
w00tzso any tips on linux can one can give me ME?05:30
saotome_select * from v;05:30
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robotgeekjeebes: /j #ubuntu-offtopic05:31
FlannelKingsaotome_, what did you name your view?05:31
jeebessry05:31
saotome_v05:32
FlannelKingthats created in the default database, you probably want to use db_name.v05:32
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ColonelPaniqueselect users from ubuntu where topic != "ubuntu" into ubuntu-offtopic;05:32
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saotome_nope05:33
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saotome_not working either05:33
theverantCan I use debian packages in ubuntu?05:33
theverantor is that a nono05:33
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WhyvasLTyeah05:33
w00tzsorry05:33
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w00tzwell any one can tell me tips on linux05:33
saotome_theverant: in my limited experience, yes05:33
damastatheverant, yes05:33
djlilyazi_jason, you the mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn05:34
damastaw00tz, like what are you looking for?05:34
Dr_Willisabout any thing in debian - ya should be aboe to find packages in for ubuntu05:34
w00tzi duno05:34
WhyvasLTtheverant, dpkg -i fart.deb05:34
_jasondjlilyazi, i guess it worked huh05:34
w00tzbut can i paste an error ?05:34
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damastaw00tz, yeah05:34
w00tz  Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection05:34
w00tzFailed to fetch http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/wine_0.9.5-winehq-1_i386.deb  Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection05:34
w00tzE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-mi05:34
djlilyazi_jason, yeah i tried 100000000 right now they are all working wow05:34
_jasonw00tz, if it is large, pastebin05:34
w00tzWHY >=\05:34
theverantjust trying to find gtkpod to install05:34
w00tzoops05:34
damastaw00tz, that's a bad entry into your sources.list05:34
djlilyazi_jason, without life would of been super hard ...thank u so much my freind05:35
w00tzwhy did it refuse connection.05:35
damastaor it's just down right now05:35
w00tzsorry?05:35
Dr_Willisserver may be down05:35
_jasondjlilyazi, np05:35
djlilyazi_jason, i have a quick question05:35
damastaDid you add the winhq entry though synaptic or manually?05:35
djlilyazi_jason, i mounted my windows partions but how do i unmount them ?05:35
Madpilottheverant: gtkpod is in Universe repo - do you have Universe/Multiverse installed?05:36
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w00tzumm Syantic05:36
_jasondjlilyazi, umount /mnt/windows, assuming you mounted it to /mnt/windows05:36
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w00tzthen added it src.list05:36
Crema10hello.. i need help please...05:36
kameroni installed limewire.. it's sitting in a folder in my home directory. how do i make it so that if i type "limewire" from anywhere, it will run limewire?05:36
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Crema10I got an error in Xine: "The source can't be read. Maybe you dont have enough rights for this, or source doesnt contain data (e.g. not disc in drive). (Erro reading from DVD)"  can anybody tell me what that error is?05:36
theverantMadpilot - I think I just did05:36
Dr_Williskameron,  put a link to it in your PATH somewhere.05:36
damastaEither the server could be down, or they changed the repository or you entered it incorrectly05:36
djlilyazi_jason, i used media insted of mnt and windows05:36
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w00tzok05:36
_jasondjlilyazi, that's fine just change it appropriately05:37
kameronDr_Acemaster, just a symbolic link to it, and that should be fine?05:37
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Madpilottheverant: in Synpatic, hit the Reload button, that forces an update of your packages list05:37
w00tzhow do i install the scanners05:37
w00tzsuch as umm05:37
w00tznmap..05:37
gratefulis it possible to hook a harddrive with windoows XP qand plug it in to ubuntu and see the files?05:37
damastasudo apt-get install namp05:37
damastanmap05:37
w00tzcheers big ears!05:37
kameronDr_Willis, , just a symbolic link to it, and that should be fine?05:37
theverantMadpilot - just trying to get the hang of how packaging works in ubuntu :)05:37
damastagrateful, yes05:37
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gratefuldamas do u know the mounting command?05:38
w00tzummm how can i  change my theme ?05:38
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w00tzto somthing SexY05:38
Dr_Williskameron,  yep05:38
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sethkgrateful, mount -r -t ntfs /dev/whatever /somewhere05:38
Madpilot!tell theverant about synaptic05:38
djlilyazi_jason, sorry i got d/c what did u say the last thing ?05:38
theverantThanks Madpilot!05:38
damastaw00tz, you in gnome or kde05:38
Dr_Willisw00tz,  try the theme control panel tool?05:39
Madpilottheverant: np05:39
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mehere1worked thx05:39
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_jasondjlilyazi, you just use the mount point.  So if you used /media/windows like you said, you would just do: umount /media/windows05:39
Crema10where can i find libdvdcss2?05:39
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_jason!info  libdvdcss205:39
saotome_anyone knows why ubuntu uses /media instead of the normal /mnt ???05:40
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w00tzi have05:40
w00tzgnomeeeee05:40
w00tzor gnomeee05:40
w00tzwhich ever..05:40
djlilyazi_jason, will it go away forever since everytime i restart they come back05:40
saotome_gnome rulez!!05:40
_jasondjlilyazi, nope that only unmounts it until you reboot.  You'll have to edit /etc/fstab to stop it from mounting everytime you boot-up05:41
liablewhat is the meta package for installing gnome?05:41
_jasonliable, ubuntu-desktop05:41
liablethanks05:41
damastaw00tz, there is a theme option in the settings menu. Or you can run gnome-control-center05:41
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w00tzE: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)05:41
w00tzE: Unable to lock the list directory05:41
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w00tzwhen i try to install namp05:41
damastaYou need to close synaptic05:41
_jasonubotu, tell Crema10 about libdvdcss05:41
theverantit's alive! It's aliiiiiiiiive! (my iPod) :p05:42
w00tzits not open?05:42
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damastaOkay, try to install nmap through synaptic05:43
_jasonw00tz, is the update thing using it?  that usually means *something* is using it05:43
orethi'm using ircii.. where is the ircrc file usually located?05:43
jawshoewahok is there a way to tell your processor how much of it's resources to devote to a particular task? ie copying files from a cdrom drive while listening to music...multitasking managament05:43
Dr_Willisin the users home dir05:43
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w00tzno nuffin is usin it05:43
orethDr_Willis: so... ~/home ?05:43
saotome_anyone knows why ubuntu uses /media instead of the normal /mnt ???05:44
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Dr_Willisoreth,  yep..  ~/username/05:44
orethawesp,e05:44
orether.. awesome05:44
Dr_Willisoreth,  or /home/username :P05:44
Dr_Willissaotome_,  /mnt is getting not as common on many disrtos these days. :p05:44
_jasonw00tz, well it'll probably be faster to just reboot than track down why the file isn't accessible05:44
saotome_i thought ~ = /home/username05:44
Dr_Willissaotome_,  yea thats right :P05:45
Dr_Willisor just use 'cd' to get home :p05:45
damastaI prefer /mnt05:45
saotome_so every distro has it's own standard?05:45
damastaover /media05:45
djlilyazi_jason, wow one problem after the other05:45
saotome_windows will always have that advantage05:45
Dr_Willisdamasta,  so what.. change it then :P05:45
saotome_even thought we won't admit in public05:45
w00tznah05:45
damastaDr_Willis, alread have05:46
w00tzaye05:46
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Dr_Willisi tend to cd /m<tab> anyway :p05:46
w00tzwell05:46
w00tzi have this running05:46
w00tzehh cant paste05:46
w00tzim downloading wine05:46
Dr_Willis!wine05:46
w00tzdoes that make any diff's ?05:46
damastaw00tz, what is downloading it?05:47
w00tzE: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)05:47
w00tzE: Unable to lock the list directory05:47
damastaIf you have apt-get running, you can't apt-get anything else05:47
w00tzahh fuck me dead.05:47
w00tzohh k05:47
w00tzi see05:47
Dr_WillisLogical eh?05:48
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w00tzanywayz its not running anymore05:48
w00tzand i still cant install namp05:49
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w00tz*nmap05:49
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Sapentisw00tz, www.insecure.org/nmap05:49
w00tzwait wait05:49
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w00tzi got this now05:49
w00tz ColonelPanique05:49
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w00tzahh fuck me sidewayz05:49
w00tzone sec.05:49
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w00tzReading package lists... Done05:49
w00tzBuilding dependency tree... Done05:49
w00tzE: Couldn't find package namp05:49
robotgeekw00tz: mind your language, and don't pate here05:49
Dr_Willisit helps to spell the package name right.05:49
ColonelPaniquekeep the language on a professional level w00tz05:50
robotgeekubotu: tell w00tz about coc05:50
_jasonw00tz, try nmap not namp05:50
Josh43I have a general question: Has anyone made a small-scale distributed computing app? like so you can offload things like transcoding and compiling to your own personal network?05:50
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w00tzdoes that make u cool ?05:50
LazyAcecan somebody help me out with java?05:50
LazyAcecan't get java to work on mozilla -_-05:50
w00tzubotu: tell w00tz about coc05:50
AcidReign... so I maxed out my HD doing `apt-get dist-upgrade` after changing my sources.list from hoary to breezy..... can anyone suggest how/what to clear out so my system is usable ?05:50
w00tzi mean05:50
w00tzubotu: tell robotgeek about coc05:50
AcidReigncan I empty /var/cache/apt safely??05:51
narleshey i can't get sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5. to work... any suggestions?05:51
robotgeekw00tz: welcome to my /ignore list05:51
AcidReign(apt was in the middle of installing packages, and dumped out due to the lack of space)05:51
w00tzubotu: tell robotgeek about cock haha05:51
Josh43AcidReign, In the middle of installing? or downloading?05:51
Dr_WillisJosh43,  i was thinking theres a process/tool that lets you sort of do that with all apps.  But  it may not be what you are looking for. (i forget the name.. OpenMosix i think)05:51
AcidReignJosh43: installing05:51
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AcidReignJosh43: it died on a supplementary python package05:52
_jasonubotu, tell narles about java05:52
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HilBillyHello05:52
djlilyazi_jason, I GOT IT05:52
robotgeekAcidReign: do you have space on another partition05:52
LazyAcecan somebody help me with the mozilla-firefox plugin lines for java runtime ??05:52
Lockewhere can i get an Ubuntu boot disk?05:52
AcidReignrobotgeek: sure, but it's NTFS05:52
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djlilyazi_jason, they are all gone i did umount and it worked wooohoo...05:52
robotgeekAcidReign: hmm, then nvm05:52
HilBillyI am trying to help a friend install ubuntu on a laptop with no CD drive.  does ubuntu have a net-install available?05:52
w00tzok  i got both working :D05:52
_jasondjlilyazi, great05:52
w00tzcan i delete the tar files now ?05:52
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djlilyazi_jason, i want to make a partion in win like fat32 so i can read/write my files all the time05:53
AcidReignrobotgeek: apt had said that it was going to use like 600M more space after installing05:53
damastaI'm new to chat, what is ubotu ?05:53
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AcidReignwhich seems silly05:53
Lockewhere can i get an Ubuntu boot disk?05:53
w00tz  ubotu is a homo05:53
ubotuw00tz: I don't know, could you explain it?05:53
robotgeekAcidReign: hmm, dist-upgrade, maybe not05:53
_jasonubotu, tell damasta about yourself05:53
w00tzsee05:53
AcidReigndamasta: probabpy a "bot" hence u'bot'u05:53
Dr_Willisdjlilyazi,  its possible to get windows to read/write your linux parittions.05:53
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djlilyazi_jason, ok i will stop bugging you..ur such a great person tho..thanks for all ur help05:53
MiyomeiCan I ask a few questions about Ubuntu?05:54
Dr_Willisdjlilyazi,  http://www.fs-driver.org/05:54
w00tzsure05:54
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b1shopany ideas if MonoDevelop 0.9 will make it as an update?  0.7 is all that is current05:54
Dr_WillisMiyomei,  you just did. :P care to ask another?05:54
Josh43AcidReign, SUrprising that your install is not broken, yikes05:54
AcidReignrobotgeek: shouldn't it have replaced existing stuff, then, not taking up twice my previous installation size05:54
damastaAcidReign, yeah, I get that. Not 100% of the definition of a bot05:54
MiyomeiI just decided to swtich from WinXP to Linux, and heard Ubuntu was a good choice.05:54
MiyomeiDr_Willis: ;p05:54
Dr_WillisMiyomei,  yes. ubuntu is very well done.05:54
djlilyaziDr_Willis, no i want it the other way since i am 24/7 on llinux and my bro uses windows and he always wants my music and stuff...so i have to share with him ..he uses my computer...05:54
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robotgeekAcidReign: it probably downloads, and then replaces05:54
MiyomeiI'm having problems with installation, though.05:54
AcidReignJosh43: its luck that things are currently still working (some things....)05:54
kameronrun i type "limewire" from anywhere, it runs limewire, a link in /usr/bin, pointing to where limewire is installed it ~/bin/Limewire. but it complains it can't find a .jar file that's in the folder. when i run it from that folder, it works.05:55
Josh43Dr_Willis, Hrm.. looks like that might be kind of what I'm looking for, but linux only - I was hoping maybe cross-platform05:55
LazyAcecan anybody help me out with running java on mozilla firefox?! i did most the commands in the guides i have found, but when i get to the last one ''sudo update-alternatives install /usr/bin/java java /usr/local/jre1.5.0_05/bin/java 1'' it says -install isn't a known variable05:55
cyphasehow can you have a vnc server which allows you to log on to any one of multiple currently running X sessions, not just the current one?05:55
MiyomeiIt seems that the install will get to 6% setup, and slows down terribly, taking an hour to process single packages.05:55
Dr_WillisJosh43,  i never actually used it. :P ive just read a few articals on it..  sort of a nifty tool.05:55
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Lockedoes anyone know how to install Ubuntu from a computer that won't boot from the CD-Rom drive?05:56
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Dr_WillisMiyomei,  that sounds liek it could be a bad/dirty cd.. try the 'alt-ctrl-f1' through f8 keys and see if any errror messages or other info is showing up.05:56
Josh43Dr_Willis, I may have to add another thing to my wish list of apps.. I think it's about time you could use your home network as one unit for cpu intensive stuff05:56
mustard5Locke, you got a floppy drive?05:56
naliothubotu: tell Locke about smartboot05:56
robotgeekLocke: sudo update-alternatives --config java05:56
MiyomeiHrm. Is it a bad idea to burn the disc at 24x?05:56
Dr_WillisJosh43,  with 'distcc' you can sort of do that now :) for compilng at least05:56
bshumateLazyAce: it's --install instead of -install05:56
robotgeekoops,05:56
LazyAcethanks bshumate05:56
naliothMiyomei: yes. burn ubuntu isos at the slowest possible speed05:56
AcidReignMiyomei: only if the disk is rated for less than 24x05:56
Dr_WillisJosh43,  my home network is 1 BIG machine and lots of old junk. lol.05:56
kameronLazyAce, there's no '-' in -install, just install05:56
MiyomeiI see, then. I'll go try another burn now.05:57
robotgeekLazyAc: sudo update-alternatives --config java05:57
djlilyaziDr_Willis, how do i delete a file that i made but wont delete only from root05:57
mustard5Locke, also have you tried changing the BIOS settings?05:57
Dr_Willisdjlilyazi,  that sort of made no sence. :P05:57
MiyomeiAlso, another question: Will Linux be able to read my NTFS-formatted HDD?05:57
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djlilyaziDr_Willis, it told me only root can delete that05:57
b1shopany ideas how the remove the dvd from the package list?05:57
Dr_Willisdjlilyazi,  try 'sudo rm filetodelete'05:57
AcidReignMiyomei: yes, but Read Only05:57
naliothMiyomei: read yes, write no05:57
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djlilyaziDr_Willis, ok lets see05:58
psusiMiyomei, read yes... write, no05:58
MiyomeiAh. Can I convert the files in some way?05:58
AcidReignMiyomei: and you'll have to make sure the right kernel module is installed05:58
b1shopif i install a package through synaptic, i want it to stop asking for the dvd05:58
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naliothMiyomei: if you purchase Partition Magic05:58
AcidReignMiyomei: you can copy them to the Linux partition05:58
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theveranthas anyone here used removable SATA cages w/ Unbuntu?05:58
AcidReignMiyomei: or you can use a commerical tool too change the FS to FAT3205:58
psusiMiyomei, yes... you can copy them from the ntfs partition to your linux partition05:58
AcidReignactually there maybe a non-commercial tool for it05:58
djlilyaziDr_Willis, nope it says its a directory05:58
Dr_WillisMiyomei,  it may be wrorth while to get a 2nd hd just for linux. :) make it a LOT easier.05:58
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AcidReignbut I cant think of one05:58
Lockemustard5: yes, i have05:58
Dr_Willisdjlilyazi,  then use the rmdir command :P05:59
b1shopacidrainy: gpartd?05:59
Lockemustard5: and i do have a floppy drive05:59
naliothAcidReign: to my knowledge, there is none05:59
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psusipartition magic is for the birds.. seen it trash too many hard drives, and why pay for something that is free in ubuntu?  ( gparted )05:59
MiyomeiHrm. I'm going to run into problems, then. I have a 40GB drive that I'm going to use for Linux, and two more drives full of stuff (60GB and 40GB) that I want to access.05:59
LazyAcebshumate: the command its wanting me to type is sudo update-alternatives install /usr/bin/java java /usr/local/jre1.5.0_05/bin/java 105:59
naliothLocke: read your private msg from ubotu. he has a way for you05:59
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jawshoewahok is there a way to tell your processor how much of it's resources to devote to a particular task? ie copying files from a cdrom drive while listening to music...multitasking managament05:59
Dr_WillisI tend to use that "system rescue" live cd - it has parted   on it also.05:59
Josh43Dr_Willis, Distcc looks promising.. needs to be expanded tho.. My home network used to be like yours, but now I have like 4 <1Ghz machines, and one out of commission big machine.. I tell you, it makes you appreciate cpu time quickly05:59
LazyAcebshumate: but still wont load java based sites05:59
mustard5Locke, k..well there is a way of doing it via floppy if you can boot from floppy...I don't recall where the instructions are atm though05:59
mustard5Locke, I'm trying to find them..but I don't like my chances :)05:59
robotgeekLazyAce: sudo update-alternatives --config java06:00
AcidReignMiyomei: I'm with Dr_Willis there, BUT make sure you make the Linux HD your Primary Master, and move the Windows drive to Secondary, otherwise the boot loader replaces ntloader, then your windows disk will never boot on its own again.06:00
Dr_WillisJosh43,  of course - in ubuntu  - i rarely compile stuff.. all my little box's are file servers06:00
spencerkis there no o/s speech dictation applications?06:00
Josh43jawshoewah, The process manager; you can set the music player to high priority :)06:00
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w00tzok06:00
Kirceso what is thuis cahnnel anyhow lol06:00
spencerkdoes anyone know of any? im getting carpal tunner06:00
w00tznow how do i complie a file with gCC ?06:00
theverantis there a way to tell the system a time to turn off?06:00
bshumateLazyAce: when you type: about:plugins  in the FF address bar, do you see mention of Java Plug-in at all?06:00
MiyomeiAh, I see. Does the linux boot loader allow me to boot into Windows?06:00
theverantit's updating now and I wanna go to beddddzzzzz06:00
jawshoewahsweet thanks josh06:00
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kamerontheverant, man shutdown06:01
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AcidReignMiyomei: yes06:01
Josh43Dr_Willis, Yeah, same here, which is why distcc is not quite right.. I transcode alot of video ;)06:01
Dr_WillisJosh43,  actually i THINK that dvd:rip stuff can do that...06:01
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MiyomeiGreat. Last question for a bit: Is Ubuntu 5.10 the one I should use?06:01
LazyAcebshumate, ?06:01
AcidReignMiyomei: the installer will find your windows drive and add it as a boot option06:01
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jawshoewahso my city doesnt have a linux users group, im super noob but devoted, whats the best way to start one?06:01
Dr_WillisJosh43,  or i seemt orecall some mention of a similer feature in dvd::rip docs06:01
AcidReignMiyomei: yes, always used the newest release06:01
naliothMiyomei: of course it is. it is the current version06:01
Lockenalioth: it won't let me download smartboot06:01
MiyomeiAlright.06:01
AcidReign(unless there is a compelling reason to do otherwise)06:01
mustard5oops, didnt see your message to Locke, nalioth :)06:01
naliothLocke: you dont download, you visit it06:02
bshumateLazyAce: in FireFox, type : about:plugins in the address bar, and press enter.  Does it mention Java Plug-in in there?06:02
Josh43Dr_Willis, It's for output to psp, ufortunately - dvd::rip wont do it; that's cool tho, I will have to look that uip for later06:02
Lockenalioth: ...?06:02
LazyAcebshumate: nope, no plugins of java06:02
naliothLocke: it's a URL, iirc06:02
w00tzok06:02
w00tznow how do i complie a file with gCC ?06:02
AcidReignanyway... is it safe to delete everything under /var/cache/apt/archives?06:02
naliothLocke: unless someone has changed the factoid06:02
MiyomeiWill I be able to read protected Windows folders, like user-specific document folders that are normally locked to everyone but that user?06:02
LazyAcebshumate: got most of the others, just not java06:02
AcidReignI'm rather new to apt-get06:02
hikenbooti have installed gcc-4.0, make, build-essentials and made a simlink ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 /usr/bin/gcc and still when i type gcc -v i get command not found and when compiling it tells me access is denied.../usr/bin/gcc-4.0/ has rwx for owner group world ...what am i missing06:02
naliothAcidReign: if you do it properly, it's ok06:02
Lockenalioth: i did that, the wiki, i clicked on the download it here thing and it say cannot contact server06:02
AcidReign(I usually compile)06:02
MiyomeiI forgot to back up my Firefox bookmarks, so they're stuck in my personal folder.06:02
bshumateLazyAce: did you try closing, and restarting Firefox?  If it was running when you did all the commands to install, you'll likely have to restart iy06:02
naliothLocke: hang on a minute06:02
AcidReignnalioth: "do it properly" ?06:03
Dr_WillisJosh43,  Hmm.. i think i did that once with dvd-rip.. actually I think i just ripped the videos and then used pspvideo9 to convert :P lol06:03
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bshumateit, rather06:03
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LazyAcebshumate: yes06:03
bob832hi there...how do i go about setting up a web server (apache2) so that it requires a password to access certain pages?  (i.e. photos of family)06:03
w00tzok06:03
w00tznow how do i complie a file with gCC ?06:03
Josh43Dr_Willis, Pretty much the same thing I am doing :P (You have a psp? Have you seen the pmp-mod?06:03
Alltaken_should synaptic package manager have gcc 3.4 on it (it is nowhere to be seen on mine)06:03
siimohi i have a motherboard with SiS760GX onboard video :( how do i get it higher than 1024x768? is it not possible06:03
z|banditois there a corrupt .udeb on amd64 live cd iso?06:03
AcidReignw00tz: usually 'you' don't, you use make06:03
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z|banditoi have done md5 checks on the download and the burn and compared to posted md5, and it's good06:04
naliothAcidReign: in a terminal type "man apt-get"06:04
z|banditobut it won't boot06:04
naliothLocke: do you have a breezy install cd ?06:04
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hikenbootanyone...i am in a real bind here06:04
bshumateLazyAce: which guide are you using for this?06:04
Dr_WillisJosh43,  not herad of that one.06:04
AcidReignw00tz: if you downloaded a source package it comes with configure script, run `./configure`, then `make`, then `make install`06:04
Dr_WillisJosh43,  psp is getting me mad. all the new games are like $50!06:04
AcidReignnalioth: that's useless06:04
w00tzinstall ?06:04
Lockenalioth: i'm downloading... ummm... 5.10 atm, whichever that one is, i'll have it in about 20 min06:04
w00tzi already installed GCC06:04
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naliothAcidReign: advise "checkinstall" instead of 'make install' please06:05
w00tzgcc file.c "output" ?06:05
Josh43Dr_Willis, It gives you full res video.. better than umd quality if you do it right.. you need a 1.5 firmware psp tho06:05
naliothLocke: then you'll have the smartbootmanager on it06:05
jawshoewahok so how do i give priority to the process that copies the files?06:05
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Lockenaloith: alright, thx06:05
Josh43Dr_Willis, And most of the new games are not that great; yeah, I know06:05
Dr_WillisJosh43,  well thats out of the question then. :P i aint about to mess with downgrading06:05
AcidReignnalioth: 1) my HD is completely full, so man errors, 2) that wont tell me if its safe to rm -f /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb06:05
Kr0ntabhikenboot: sudo apt-get install gcc06:05
Lockebtw, what is Ubuntu Server 5.10?06:05
Kr0ntabperhaps?06:05
Dr_WillisJosh43,  most of my video is stuff ive captuted from the tv anyway06:05
theverant'nite all... thanks for all the fish.. I mean... help... hopefully I can give somethign back soon!06:05
Kr0ntab:-)06:05
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MiyomeiAlright, I'm gonna' reburn the ISO. Thanks for all of the fast help, guys. I'll probably be back soon. ;p06:06
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sudharshLocke: Ubuntu sevrer doesnt hav a gdm06:06
LazyAcebshumate: sorry, had ot find it ''http://chads.homelinux.org/blog/?m=20051225''06:06
naliothAcidReign: look to deleting things in your /tmp and your browser and other personal caches first06:06
hikenbootKr0ntab: gcc is already the newest version.06:06
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AcidReignnalioth: /tmp is 18K06:06
jawshoewahok so how do i give priority to the process that copies the files?06:06
Josh43Dr_Willis, Most of the stuff I've been doing is tv rips and fansubbed anime; 20-30min is about the sweet spot for me in terms of amoutn of time per video06:07
hikenbootKr0ntab: thats what it says06:07
AcidReignnalioth: and I KNOW this is the problem apt JUST ate over 600MB06:07
narlesdoes anyone use ourtunes... it seems to run shitty when i use java -jar06:07
naliothAcidReign: what is in ~/.stuff  ?06:07
Kr0ntabhikenboot: type "which gcc"06:07
LazyAcebshumate: it was the most recent i could find for the new java 1.5, plus it was the top of my search engine -_-06:07
AcidReignand that directory is about 800M currently06:07
naliothnarles: language please06:07
AcidReigndu -sh ~/.stuff06:07
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hikenbootcomes back with nothing06:07
jawshoewahany tv config guys on tonight?06:07
AcidReignoops06:07
Dr_WillisJosh43,  ive been recording tv shows with my HDVR copy them to dvd.. rip to psp :P cooking shows. lol06:07
Dr_WillisJosh43,  its almost easier to just use a portable dvd player for me.06:07
AcidReignnalioth: No such file or directory06:07
Dr_Willisactually it is easier.  :)06:07
naliothAcidReign: please use your head. ~/.EXAMPLE_FOLDER06:08
z|banditois there a corrupt .udeb on amd64 live cd iso?  or a known issue that it won't boot on some mobo or chipset or something?06:08
duckdownCan someone tell me if there is a package for a MUD client?  Apparently KMUD and KMUDDY aren't available, or are my sources misconfigured still? :-(06:08
Josh43Dr_Willis, Yeah, after that point, lol.. you could almost justify using that video recorder that burns to ms duo06:08
jawshoewahtvtime cant open the capture device but lsmod sees it06:08
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sudharshz|bandito: r u havin an ati?06:08
naliothduckdown: your sources may still be misconfigured06:08
w00tznow how do i complie a file with gCC ?06:08
AcidReignnalioth: well I've actually seen things use such names. so its not unreasonable to assume you were being literal06:08
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Kr0ntabthen gcc is missing....06:08
duckdownnalioth: I apparently activated UNIVERSE through Synaptic06:08
Dr_WillisJosh43,  been looking at the Nokia770 - but not sure how well it does video.. heh06:08
HoboTurtlexcuse me06:08
HobzI also have a gcc problem06:09
duckdownnalioth: Do you have any kmud* packages?06:09
hikenbootKr0ntab: it comes back with nothing06:09
naliothduckdown: enable multiverse, too06:09
AcidReignnalioth: and besides my entire home directory is only a few MB06:09
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naliothduckdown: i do not.06:09
HoboTurtlecan anyone help me how to burn an iso to CD?06:09
Kr0ntabhikenboot: the gcc is missing....06:09
sudharshw00tz: gcc <filename? -o <execname>06:09
w00tzcheers06:09
naliothAcidReign: sudo apt-get clean06:09
duckdownI had trouble with multiverse.. My Synaptic didn't have one I could just check off06:09
hikenbootKr0ntab: there is a simlink to /usr/bin/gcc /usr/bin/gcc-4.006:09
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duckdownI don't know the source for it06:09
Dr_WillisHoboTurtle,  under windows or linux?06:09
Josh43Dr_Willis, mmm, the internet tablet, that thing is cool; not so hot on video tho06:09
Lockesudharsh: whats a gdm?06:09
HoboTurtleDr_Willis, under ubuntu06:09
Dr_WillisJosh43,  yea.. a fancy toy. :P06:09
Kr0ntabhikenboot: "dpkg -l gcc"06:09
errr_does anyone know what package the "matto" fonts are a part of?06:10
Dr_WillisHoboTurtle,  i tend to cheat and use 'k3b'06:10
naliothubotu: tell duckdown about repos06:10
jawshoewahtvtime cant open the capture device but lsmod sees it06:10
naliothduckdown: ubotu has blessed you with knowledge06:10
garrygdm command to start gnome.06:10
hikenbootii  gcc                      4.0.1-3                  The GNU C compiler06:10
AcidReignnalioth: Thank You, that cleared over 530MB.06:10
duckdownnalioth:  im pretty sure ive seen that, but ill look again06:10
HoboTurtleDr_Willis, is the the easiest...noob-friendly choice?06:10
duckdownthanks06:10
sudharshLocke: Gnome display manager06:10
hikenboot/usr/bin/gcc-4.0 -v comes back with the version06:10
z|banditosudharsh no it's an nvidia 6600 pcie06:10
sudharshkubuntu use kdm06:10
naliothAcidReign: just wiping things that don't belong to you (the user) causes trouble.06:10
StudyUrNmehikenboot, is /usr/bin still in your $PATH ?06:10
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Natashahow old is everyone here, u all seem much older than i am06:10
Josh43Dr_Willis, howabout the new polaroid 80gb portable video player ;)06:10
hikenbootI think i got it06:10
jawshoewahany tv config guys on tonight?06:11
z|banditoon an asus a8n-sli delux06:11
AcidReignnalioth: so does having 0 free space06:11
garryI am too old.06:11
sudharshz|bandito: did u get any errors06:11
hikenbootits a directory not a file I must have made an error06:11
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dooglushikenboot: you're missing the symbolic link from /usr/bin/gcc to gcc-4.0?06:11
gregneed a lil help i'm tring to modify the server.list and it won't let me change it from read only but i know i'm signed in as the admin...any ideas06:11
Kr0ntabhikenboot: sudo rm /usr/bin/gcc; sudo ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 /usr/bin/gcc06:11
Dr_WillisJosh43,  heh - i just watch stuff a little at work. and the boss's are getting mad.. easier for me to just go buy a book or 3 now a days06:11
Natashai think im in the wrong place, this is like some computer club06:12
AcidReignnalioth: and it seems that did exactly what I wanted to do manually...06:12
Dr_WillisJosh43,  no battery needed!06:12
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MadpilotHoboTurtle: find your ISO in the file manager - right click on it, select "Burn To Disc" - done06:12
sudharshhikenboot: see whether typing 'gc' and a <tab> fills up the command for ya06:12
naliothAcidReign: it did more than you think06:12
w00tzahh dammit man06:12
w00tzkaiten.c:60:19: error: errno.h: No such file or directory06:12
w00tzkaiten.c:61:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory06:12
w00tzkaiten.c:62:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory06:12
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w00tzwhy?06:12
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Dr_Willis:P06:12
sudharshhey u hjav to install the stdc++06:12
hikenbootgcc         gcc-3.3     gcc-3.4     gcc-4.0     gccbug      gccbug-3.3  gccbug-3.4  gccbug-4.006:12
garrygreg from command line sudo gedit filename06:12
AcidReignnalioth: I know that06:12
HoboTurtleMadpilot, thanks alot, Dr_Willis too, u are so smart06:12
naliothLadies and Gentlemen: there is a /topic for the channel06:12
dooglushikenboot: what happens if you just run "gcc" on its own?06:12
benplautcan someone write a very simple script for me?06:13
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Madpilotnalioth: yeah, but it only exists so people can complain about everyone ignoring it! :P06:13
benplaut to open a dialog box that says (whatever... for me to edit), with the OK button just closing to window?06:13
hikenbootcommand not found06:13
HoboTurtleMadpilot, but wouldnt it write it as a data disc?06:13
dooglushikenboot: "ls -l /usr/bin/gcc".  what about that?06:13
jb_ubuntu sucks, i cant even get my WMP54gs pci card installed06:13
Kr0ntabhikenboot: echo $PATH06:13
Josh43Dr_Willis, no battery needed /yet/ ;)06:13
naliothbenplaut: look up "zenity" on google06:14
hikenboot sudo rm /usr/bin/gcc06:14
hikenboot/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games06:14
Dr_WillisJosh43,  yet another big failure - the electronic-book....06:14
MadpilotHoboTurtle: Nautilus is smart enough to write ISOs in the right way06:14
jb_hell it wont even find it06:14
benplautnalioth: thanks06:14
dooglusKr0ntab: if he doesn't have /usr/bin in $PATH then he's gonna have bigger problems than gcc not working...06:14
Kr0ntabcourse....06:14
dooglushikenboot: "ls -l /usr/bin/gcc".  what about that?06:14
sudharshjb_: does lsmod, lspci work06:14
hikenbootlrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 16 2006-01-09 23:55 gcc-4.0 -> /usr/bin/gcc-4.006:14
jb_yeah06:14
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HoboTurtleMadpilot, i guess.. i forgot this is not windows06:14
sudharshjb_: is getting detected properly06:15
dooglushikenboot: was that addressed to me?06:15
jb_it shows it as a broadcom network controller but it is unknown06:15
HoboTurtleMadpilot, nautilus? and where is this file manager06:15
z|banditosudharsh yes it says a file doesn't match md5 and might be corrupt...06:15
MadpilotHoboTurtle: no, it's usually smarter than Windows :P06:15
naliothjb_: use ndiswrapper06:15
hikenbootdouglus: yes sorry06:15
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z|banditoan amd64 ide .udeb, let me get the full name06:15
hikenbootdooglus: yes sorry06:15
sudharshz|bandito: try reinstalling the whole systesm then>06:15
dooglushikenboot: that can't possibly be the output of the command I asked you to run06:15
z|banditoit's on the live cd06:15
jb_i have it set up, but it only says that the drive is installed06:15
_charwoodPlease help: I don't have a /dev/dvd or a /dev/hdc or anything of the sort though the device does exist.  Why is this?06:15
HoboTurtleMadpilot, im giving up on linux for now, its too hard for me06:15
jb_not the card06:16
_charwood(I'm using dapper flight 2)06:16
z|banditoi was trying to see if it would boot at all before installing06:16
dooglushikenboot: could you try again, but copy/paste this time?06:16
Kr0ntabhikenboot: "ls -l /usr/bin/gcc*"    we want to see everything that has gcc in yer path...06:16
sudharshoh...so the live cd wont boot into the desktop in the first place?06:16
Hobzpackages.debian.org is down, is there another place where I can find .deb packages?06:16
Kr0ntabsorry... you ahve two people heling at same time.... I'll hang back for a sec06:16
hikenbootdooglus: ls -l /usr/bin/gcc06:16
hikenboottotal 006:16
hikenbootlrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 16 2006-01-09 23:55 gcc-4.0 -> /usr/bin/gcc-4.006:16
z|banditobut i verified the md5 of the burnt iso with the posted md506:16
sudharshpackages.ubuntu.com06:16
z|banditoyeah, it's during the boot process and then hangs06:16
dooglushikenboot: so /usr/bin/gcc is a directory?06:17
sudharshk now do u have some uncommaon hardware06:17
sudharshdid u try the cd in someone else's oc06:17
sudharsh*pc06:17
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hikenbootits a simlink to /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 unless i have done it wrong06:17
jb_i mean it shows that it is there as a broadcom network controller, but it is uknown, and when i use ndiswrapper it says the driver is present but says noting about the card06:17
z|banditono, dunno anyone with amd64... uncommon hardware.. hmm, pcie and sata ..06:18
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dooglushikenboot: you need to do this:  "sudo bash -c '/bin/rm -r /usr/bin/gcc; ln -s gcc-4.0 /usr/bin/gcc'"06:18
manilsoh snap i had that problem06:18
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HoboTurtlewhere is the file manager...06:18
Plazmahas anyone had any luck getting an ipod to work with firewire in ubuntu?06:18
manilswhat kinda machine is this?06:18
dooglushikenboot: to see that it's really a directory, do this: "ls -ld /usr/bin/gcc"06:18
z|banditoi'll reboot and check the name of the corrupt .udeb06:18
manilsi had a broadcom 1370 mini wlan06:18
_charwoodSorry, does anyone know why udev might not detect my second ide drive (my DVD drive?)06:18
duckdownI am trying to use something that requires Qt >=3.1.0 .. What can I do?06:18
hikenbootthanks  drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2006-01-09 23:55 /usr/bin/gcc06:18
jb_its an amd 64 but its on the i38606:18
naliothHoboTurtle: applications > accesories > file mangler06:18
duckdownShould I compile frmo source?06:18
dooglushikenboot: see the initial 'd'?  that means it's a directory06:19
hikenbootim not sure how that happend06:19
naliothduckdown: no. search synaptic for 'libqt3'06:19
sudharshduckdown: what r un tryin to install06:19
z|banditowill the i386 version boot on amd64?06:19
Alltaken_why is gcc3.4 not available to download via apt-get any longer?06:19
dooglushikenboot: I've got my suspicions :)06:19
HoboTurtleu mean FILEBROWSER?06:19
jb_yeah06:19
duckdownnalioth: I've installed the libqt3 stuff06:19
sudharshit will mate06:19
duckdownsudharsh: a MUD client for KDE06:19
sigI currently back my system up, I just cp'd the old .evolution file back to /home/me/.evolution and all went well. I opened evolution and when I click on inbox or anything else it says permission denied. How would I chown this to the current user now?06:19
z|banditohmm, that wouldn't boot either06:19
regeya_I just want to know how someone accidentally ends up in this here computer club06:19
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duckdownsudharsh: there arent any in my synaptic :S06:19
dooglushikenboot: I reckon it was a combination of you, sudo and mkdir :)06:19
crimsunduckdown: install libqt3-mt-dev and qt3-dev-tools06:20
hikenbootwell thanks...I will fix it06:20
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sudharshduckdown: synatpic might have handled the dependencies for u06:20
naliothduckdown: obviously you've missed something06:20
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hikenbootit must have been a typo06:20
duckdowncrimsun: Hang on, let me try that, thanks06:20
duckdownnalioth: Let me check again06:20
ejofeein kde / kcontrol (desktop settings) / background: when i press the "get new wallpapers" (from the internet), a window pops up on which is written "empty page" (so it won't download any wallpaper). can anybody please help me?06:20
crimsunAlltaken_: the package name is 'gcc-3.4', and it's in main.06:20
michael__I'm in here again. Hopefully somebody can help me this time. But to fight the spite, I'm going to ask before hand - will anybody help me?06:20
Dr_Willisejofee,  just fire up a browser and go look for wallpaper web sites :P06:20
dooglus!ask06:20
sudharshmichael__ whats ur prob06:20
jb_so does anyone know whats going on with my wifi card or should i either switch back to windows or buy a bridge06:20
michael__http://pastebin.com/49886606:20
dooglusum - just ask michael06:21
ejofeeDr_Willis: yes, but it used to work06:21
ejofeeDr_Willis: it all happened overnight06:21
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Dr_Williscould be their server is down or they are changeing somthing06:21
garryejofee, perhaps the server handling the wallpaper is down at the moment06:21
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duckdowncrimsun: libqt3-mt-dev is already the newest version and qt3-dev-tools is already the newest version. according to apt-get06:21
michael__jb, i needed to use dniswrapper with the driver from the windows install cd06:21
hikenbootthanks have a great evening!06:21
garryhehe, Dr_Willis wins the race. :)06:22
AcidReignso, is XMMS broken for anyone else? mine doesn't play a damn thing...06:22
damastaAcid06:22
AcidReignmp3 and ogg make it freeze06:22
duckdownnalioth: apparently i have libqt3-mt-dev and qt3-dev-tools06:22
crimsunduckdown: then you may need 'qt3-dev-tools-compat'06:22
Crema10can i use amarok even if its a kde app?06:22
z|banditoon the amd64 version it fails the cdrom integrity test...  /pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/ipv6-modules-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic-di_2.6.12-9.23_amd64.udeb06:22
sudharshchange the sound server06:22
Crema10i'm using gnome06:22
duckdowncrimsun: ok thanks hang on06:22
jb_ive already done that and when i get the drivers installed with it and do "ndiswrapper -l" it shows that my driver is present but not hte hardware06:22
z|banditobut last time it was a different file that failed md5 check06:22
sudharshmaybe u didnt burn it right06:22
oorah22anyone know why i can't seem to install codecs using synaptic?06:22
Alltaken_crimsun, yes it states that gcc-3.4 has no available location to download, and it is not listed in any of my synaptic lists06:22
ejofeegarry, Dr_Willis: oh, didn't know it would behave like this on server unavailability. are you sure? (i thought it would give me a more proper message, like "server unaccessible".)06:22
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z|banditowhen i make an iso and run md5 on the iso it's the same as the download and of the posted md5!  :(06:23
sudharshoorah22 u need 2 enable multiverse and universe repos first06:23
michael__jb_, did you do $modprobe ndiswrapper06:23
jb_yeah06:23
oorah22sudharsh, is there a link on how to do that?06:23
Alltaken_it may be because of the country i am in, since all my downloads are trying to go through the NZ servers, does anyone know a location i could get gcc-3.4 from and have it automatically installed?06:23
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garryejofee No, I'm not sure, but if hte server is dodgey, who knows what ye get.06:23
crimsunAlltaken_: please reenable the main repository06:23
oorah22sudharsh, googling it...06:23
sudharshenableing the repos os easy mate06:23
ejofeegarry: i see. thanks.06:23
Dr_Willisejofee,  'error 404' :P06:23
bimberiubotu tell oorah22 about w32codecs06:24
duckdowncrimsun: Crap..checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!   during ./configure still :-(06:24
sudharshoorah22 open synaptic06:24
jb_when i do an lspci i get this06:24
jb_0000:00:0c.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4318 (rev 02)06:24
garryejofee welcome, IN fact, I think I'll try and see if more wallpapers are avail. are ye using gnome?06:24
crimsunduckdown: oh, you're not providing the correct Qt path06:24
jb_its like its there but its not reconized06:24
LazyAcei got java installed, can somebody private message me the commands that will associate java with mozilla firefox? this is for a i386 system.06:24
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ejofeegarry: no, it is all happening in kde06:24
duckdownhmm?06:24
michael__jb, sorry, not experienced nuf to help you then - i'm in here in hopes of getting helped too - did you try ubuntu wiki06:24
Alltaken_crimsun,  how do i reenable the main repository? i am using the default respository that it has used since install06:25
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garryok, I can switch over to kde. just a sec. I'll be back and let ye know, if you still around.06:25
crimsunduckdown: you need to pass "--with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt3" to ./configure06:25
LazyAcei got java installed, can somebody private message me the commands that will associate java with mozilla firefox? this is for a i386 system.06:25
jb_yeah man ive tried alot but i cant find anyone with the same problem so i think im juust gonna buy a network brindge06:25
crimsun!tell Alltaken_ about repos06:25
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Dr_Willis'get new wallpaper' works for my kde desktp06:25
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jb_that will work but there 89 bucks06:25
regeya_I tried bmpx earlier.  what a weird direction bmp has taken06:25
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sudharshLazyAce what did about:plugins tell u for the plugins06:25
starscallinghiiiiiii ;) i was wondering how i can get openbox to automagically execute things like fbpanel ??06:26
regeya_Dr_Willis,06:26
LazyAcenothing about java06:26
duckdowncrimsun: cool, trying now06:26
michael__so, do i get help in here??06:26
crimsunduckdown: that's a FAQ, btw06:26
sudharshLazyAce u missed the symbolic link06:26
regeya_Dr_Willis, are you a former gentoo user?   forgive me if I've asked before06:26
LazyAcesudharsh: nothing about java, just some acrobat ready, flash, and a fwe other things06:26
Dr_Willisregeya_, yep06:26
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duckdowncrimsun: I read the README and INSTALL :(06:26
sudharshLazyAce go to the java installation06:26
Dr_Willisregeya_,  aint messed with gentoo in a long time06:26
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sudharshthrough nautilus a s root06:26
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duckdownsweet man it worked, I'll write that down.. thanks crimsun sir06:27
cobelloyhello there - can anyone help me with configuring ethernet?06:27
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oorah22Thanks everyone! i'm new to ubuntu... switched over from gentoo06:27
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jeramycobelloy, possibly... :)06:27
oorah22thanks for being so helpful06:27
regeya_Dr_Willis, oh come now, how long could it have been?06:27
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palomerhello06:27
palomerwhon's the next ubuntu coming out?06:27
sudharshApril06:27
sudharshi thinl06:27
regeya_and apologies to any ops; I promise to stop asking now.06:28
bimberioorah22: np and welcome :)06:28
michael__feels ignored.*06:28
jeramyYeah, I think it's April06:28
cobelloyI have some outputs from lsmod and stuff here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/687206:28
timfrostmichael__, ask your question06:28
naliothduckdown: what is your program calling for in the way of libqt3 ?06:28
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michael__I DID, It's at http://pastebin.com/49886606:28
cobelloynalioth - you came here?06:28
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Dr_Willisregeya_,  year+ at least?06:29
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cobelloystill trying to get eth going06:29
sudharshmicheal__ did u use gcc406:29
naliothcobelloy: i'm always here  :) (i'm in many channels06:29
Dr_Willisregeya_,  i rember when emerge -U was 'standard' i think lol..  and stage1/2 was still supported.06:29
palomeris it going to be 6.0?06:29
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michael__idk, it's a proggy sum1 else made06:30
cobelloyyes - I keep running away and then I get left behind in the threads...06:30
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michael__shud i install it?06:30
cobelloyI had to go an build a shelf under my desk for the modem/router thing06:30
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duckdownnalioth: what do you mean?06:30
cobelloyfor the tech guy06:30
jeramyso cobelloy, what's the problem?06:30
sudharshmicheal__ forgive me...i didnt get u06:30
naliothduckdown: why do you need libqt3 ?06:30
cobelloymy ethernet card is not configured and I need it asap06:30
michael__k, sry for being arrogant06:31
regeya_Dr_Willis, same here, iirc.  Well, a brief return to gentoo about 6 months ago.  I found I didn't have the time and wanted to do things other than updating/troubleshooting.  in other words, I wanted to be a user for a change, not a wannabe dev ;-)06:31
cobelloyfor broadband installation - the tech guy is here now06:31
duckdownbecause there seems to be many KDE apps that arent in my aptitude/synaptic :(06:31
duckdownduckdown: so Im trying to configure KMuddy06:31
duckdowndoh06:31
duckdownnalioth: I meant, im trying to compile KMuddy, but other programs have asked for it too..06:31
sudharshduckdown: b4 me kick me....did u eanble all ya repos06:31
naliothduckdown: join #kubuntu-offtopic please06:31
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Hobzhow do I find out what kernel version I have?06:32
michael__I have gcc-4.0 base installed06:32
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duckdownsudharsh: Only UNIVERSE, i didnt find out Multiverse sources for synaptic and they arent includedf06:32
bimberiHobz: uname -r06:32
garrywhoever got empy page error trying to download new wallpaper in kde, I just tried it, I got the empty page for a second, and then a selection of new wallpapers appeared. It could be that there is a large number of new files to choose from and its just taking longer to download the thumbnails than usual.06:32
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duckdownnalioth: OK sir06:32
Hobzthanks bimberi06:32
bimberiHobz: yw :)06:33
sudharshduckdown: u also need to install the corresponding dev packages06:33
jeramycobelloy, so you're using dialup atm and you're connecting to a DSL modem, or cable modem?06:33
jeramycobelloy, or are you having trouble loading a driver?06:33
sudharshif u r installing from source that is06:33
cobelloyno - i am  switching to sattelite broadband today06:33
cobelloythe roter thing connects to the eth card06:34
cobelloy but it is not configured06:34
jeramycobelloy, and do you connect with DHCP?06:34
gil-is there any software to randonmly change the desktop background?06:34
michael__timfrost: sudharsh: approx. how long 'till you get to me?06:34
cobelloynot dhcp, hang on06:34
z|banditothe amd64 install cd also fails at Load Installer COmponents from CD06:34
cobelloyit is tcp/ip06:35
garrygil-, what gui are you using, gnome or kde?06:35
z|banditois there an issue with dual layer dvdrw drives?06:35
gil-garry, gnome06:35
jeramycobelloy, DHCP is a protocol that runs over TCP/IP06:35
timfrostmichael__, I can't help.  The only Java stuff I deal with is the java pluigin in my browser.06:35
sudharshoh sorry...its my cellphone06:35
michael__k06:35
jeramyIs it satellite<->router<->PC?06:36
garrygil- ok, let me switch back to gnome and see if I can find an option for that.06:36
sudharshmicheal try compileng the thingy with gcc-3.406:36
michael__what channel might i find help for java on?06:36
Hobz#java06:36
michael__ow fo i do that?06:36
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z|bandito"The ./pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-image-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic_2.6.12-9.23_amd64.deb file failed the md5 checksum verification.  Your CDROM or this file may have been corrupted06:36
jeramycobelloy, I mean satellite modem<->router<->PC?06:36
michael__how do*06:36
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jawshoewahnautilus is a pig that hogs all my cpu even though I give priority to rythmbox06:37
z|banditobut it verified ok.. :(06:37
cobelloyno router, fixed ip modem06:37
cobelloysorry - my mistake06:37
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sudharsh micheal__ try gij-4.006:37
jawshoewahI should be able to tell my computer to reserve enough memory and cpu to keep my mp3's from skipping when I mulittask06:37
LetterRip_afkHi all - how do we ensure that the latest version of our software will be in the next Ubunutu release?06:38
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sudharshjawshoewah: tell me the amt of ram u r havin06:38
jawshoewah25606:38
sudharshhmm....06:38
damastajaw06:38
jawshoewahyaw?06:38
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damastajawshoewah, look into nice values06:38
sudharshjawshoewah: tr u usin xmms06:38
michael__san error w/ gij06:38
B_166-ER-X!easysource06:38
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:38
LetterRipwe currently are at the 2.40 version of Blender, and at the end of the week will be at 2.41 whereas Ubuntu lists 2.37a06:39
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michael__.join #java06:39
jawshoewahxmms doesnt support rbscroller06:39
jeramycobelloy, hm.. so you mean that your computer is assigned a static IP, and you just connect directly through the satellite modem?06:39
jawshoewahi like the feel of rythmbox06:39
cobelloyyep06:39
mjbjra friend I'm helping has been running u5.10 and using a modem to connect to the net.  Later this week, I will install a nic for dsl.  On the reboot, will ubuntu see the nic and do the dhcp thing, or will I have to do this manually via some sort of net admin app?06:39
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jawshoewahI would like to help in it's development06:39
LetterRip2.40 and 2.41 have 200 significant bug fixes or so relative to the previous versions06:39
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jawshoewahmy nice val;ues are set to give rythmbox highest priority nautilus keeps stealing all the cpu though06:40
jeramycobelloy, ok.  Go to System->Administration->Networking06:40
karlani know that linux does not support ntfs-partitions in the linux kernel, but is there any easy way to get access etc? does anyone know if there are any plans in migrating ntfs in the linux kernel in the future?06:40
michael__shit, how do i id myswlf w/ the server>06:40
jawshoewahis nice a true representation of priority06:40
crimsunLetterRip: we're fast approaching Upstream Version Freeze (UVF), so we'd like to avoid unnecessary version splits with Debian unstable unless absolutely critical06:40
cobelloyok, then what06:40
sudharshmichael__ /join #java06:41
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brennerkarlan: you *ca* access, you just can't write safely06:41
LetterRipcrimsun - ok Debian unstable will have the version end of the week06:41
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brenners/ca/can06:41
jeramyyou enter your password, and is there an "Ethernet connection" there?06:41
michael__tells me i need to be idetified to join that channel06:41
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karlanbrenner, how?06:41
sudharshu need 2 register first06:41
crimsunLetterRip: then that's a no brainer; it will auto-sync into Dapper06:41
garryHere is info on a python script to set up gnome background switching for whoever asked about it. http://chakravyuh.blogspot.com/2005/10/gnome-wallpaper-switcher.html06:41
MiyomeiOkay, back. With more problems. ;p06:41
brennerubotu: tell karlan about ntfs06:41
LetterRipcrimsun ok06:41
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michael__how do i register??06:41
LetterRipwhen is UVF06:42
jawshoewahI am trying to divide my cpu amongst most common tasks 1. Mp3 2. Xchat 3. Firefox 4. Terminal I switch between these apps quickly and want to keep everything smooth06:42
LetterRipso I can make sure things aren't delayed beyond then?06:42
timfrostmjbjr, you will have to do some configuring.  If his DSL provides a DHCP server, you can just configure the eth0 for DHCP. System->Administration->Ntworking is where you dio the config06:42
sudharshtry http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup06:42
mjbjrtimfrost: thanks06:42
karlanbrenner, when i access my ntfs partition in System -> Administration -> Disks -> Browse, i can see the files, but not execute them06:42
damastajawshoewah, did you try nice value assinging?06:42
brennerkarlan: that'll give you ro access...if you want a shareable partition, at this stage the best option is still fat06:42
jeramycobelloy, do you see an "Ethernet connection" The interface eth0 is not configured?  (or something like that?)06:42
cobelloysorry - yes, ethernet06:42
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cobelloyhang on06:43
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crimsunLetterRip: Jan 19th.06:43
jeramyok, click on it, and then click Properties06:43
LetterRipcrimsun another related question - we have some out of tree translations occurring for the Chinese language and they would like Rosetta pointed to their site06:43
MiyomeiNow the first installation CD messed up at 6%, and it was burned at 24x. This one was done at 4x and and it gave me a a CRC error in the DOS-like pre-setup while it was unpacking, then a 'kernel panic' error shortly afterwards, and it stopped responding.06:43
karlanbrenner, i know about fat32, but there is a limit for filesizes around 4 gigs, right? my dvd's :<06:43
garryand be sure to not put spaces before the registering commands like I got when I copied and pasted. The result was that IRC broadcast my password to the entire forum. use the server window for the setup.06:43
LetterRipis such possible?06:43
cobelloydevice eth0 the check box for configured is not checked06:43
jawshoewahdamasta: yes but it still sacrifices mp3 quality while copying files to harddrive06:43
jeramyOk, click the checkbox06:44
LetterRipalso we have a substantial manual for our project - does it need to be similarly packaged?06:44
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crimsunLetterRip: Rosetta's not in my expertise; try #launchpad, #ubuntu-devel, or #rosetta06:44
cobelloyyep - then06:44
LetterRipok thank you06:44
brennerkarlan: i'm not sure on the size limit.  how'd you mount the ntfs partition?06:44
damastaoh06:44
jeramyset your Configuration to Static IP address06:44
jeramyEnter your IP, Subnet, and Gateway address06:44
cobelloydone, does that mean that my ethernet card does actually work?06:44
jeramyLooks like it.06:44
karlanbrenner, ubuntu mounted it automaticly i think. in my filemanager, i have Home, Filesystem, hdc1, hdb1, hda106:45
cobelloythe tech guy will do that for me when he is finished installing the hardware06:45
sudharshbrenner: check out /et/cfstab06:45
sudharsh*/fstab06:45
karlanbut when i try to access any of the hd*1, i get an error06:45
cobelloyso it was this easy all along then?06:45
jeramy99% of the Ethernet cards I've used work in Linux.06:45
jeramyYep, it's that easy.  :)06:45
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cobelloyit is an onboard mobo one tho06:45
sudharshbrenner: check whether u hav read access in fstab06:45
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brennerkarlan: do what sudharsh is saying :)06:46
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jeramycobelloy, in that pastebin that you posted, it shows your eth0 as a listed device, so chances are it was detected.  ;)06:46
brennerkarlan: paste the output of /etcfstab to a pastebin and we'll have a look06:47
karlanbrenner, pm for long paste06:47
jeramyI encountered one board with an on-board NIC that didn't work in Linux.06:47
brenner/etc/fstab06:47
cobelloyoh I see, I really am not as linux savvy as I think I am, thatnk goodness for forums and irc!!06:47
jawshoewah1.3 ghz proc 256 mb ram should be enough to copy files and listen to music without mp3's lagging right?06:47
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shadowplayhas anyone had trouble getting the nvidia driver to work with a geforce2 after a kernel upgrade?06:47
brennerkarlan: pastebin's better....that way everyone can have a look-see06:47
jeramyYep, what would we do w/o the community?06:47
karlanthere is only one line in the bash script06:47
karlanIgnoring /dev/hda1 - already in /etc/fstab06:47
karlanIgnoring /dev/hdb1 - already in /etc/fstab06:47
karlanIgnoring /dev/hdc1 - already in /etc/fstab06:47
karlanNo usable windows/mac partitions found06:47
_ian_is kubuntu jsut like ubuntu only with kde?06:47
karlanoops06:47
jeramy_ian_, yes06:47
karlan:)06:48
marcsteri think normally you should recompile your nvidia drivers after a kernel upgrade06:48
cobelloyI am going away from the4 computer for a bit - the tech guy will need me for a bit - thanks guys!! (especially jeramy)06:48
cobelloybrb06:48
garryshadowplay, thiat is a possibility, ye might try reinstalling the nvidia.06:48
karlanthe partitions is already mounted, but i cant access them properly :\06:48
jawshoewah1.3 ghz proc 256 mb ram should be enough to copy files and listen to music without mp3's lagging right?06:48
jeramycobelloy, np  :)06:48
sudharshgive us the out put karlan06:48
brennerkarlan: that's why we're gonna look at the settings in fstab06:49
_ian_what if i alreayd installed regular ubuntu and want to get the kubuntu isntead do i have to reinstall all over agian and download kubuntu?06:49
karlanok, w806:49
jawshoewahdoes ubuntu truley allow for cpu mangagment?06:49
timfrostkarlan, pastebin /etc/fstab06:49
sudharsh_ian_ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:49
brennersudharsh: i'm deferring to you06:49
karlanhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/687306:49
karlanthere is fstab06:49
sudharshk06:49
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shadowplaymarcster: that could be it.  I have it working in gentoo, but ubuntu being difficult.06:50
garry_ian_, I just backed up my ubuntu and installed kde too. Now I have both kde and gnome availalable to me on ubunto breezy.06:50
jawshoewahhmmm06:50
shadowplaygarry: i reinstalled everything to do with nvidia via apt-get, but maybe I should recompile instead.06:50
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sudharshkaraln how many harddisks di u hav06:50
karlansudharsh, 306:51
karlan2 80 gb, 1 12006:51
garryYes, that should help.06:51
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marcsteri wish ubuntu had something like dkm06:51
garryshadowplay yes, that would be a good second step to try.06:51
jawshoewahdoes system monitor noce settings really work?06:51
marcsteror does ubuntu have it already?06:51
jawshoewahnice06:51
sudharshkarlan u dont hav any extended ntfs partitions06:52
karlansudharsh, huh?06:52
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Zenhow much space does a fresh install of Ubuntu 5.10 take?06:53
Zendefault06:53
mustard5Zen, about 2.5 gigs I think06:53
MadpilotZen: about 1.8Gb06:53
sudharshk letme guess....u have C:,D:E: on separate partitions06:53
mustard5oh..hehe06:53
_ian_hi did you do that garry...sorry im a real noob....just jumped to linux last week06:54
ZenLinux for me is like the Crusades06:54
garrysay _ian_ do what?06:54
karlansudharsh, yeah, something like that06:54
shadowplayZen: ? how so ?06:54
karlandont remember the exact driveletters06:54
ZenI'm always trying to get games to work and VB.NET development in linux for what I truely love (linux)06:54
_ian_to switch to kde....because i really like kde....i tried many distros before but only ubuntu worked fine for me....but what i miss is the kde interface06:55
Zenif I could do both of those, I think I could use it exclusively06:55
Zenand I want to06:55
karlan_ian_, kubuntu? ubuntu with KDE06:55
garry_ian_ yes, I did install kde from the package manager, it worked fine, it's been over a week.06:55
timfrost_ain_ , sudo apt-get kubuntu_desktop to add KDE06:56
sudharshkarlan...i dont think therss anythin rong with ur fstab06:56
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z|banditoare there any known issues with nforce4 chipsets?06:56
karlansudharsh, me neither :\ but it still wont work :\06:56
karlani can access the disks via System -> Administration -> Disks -> Browse06:56
brenner_ian_: what timfrost said.  then choose kde from the sessions menu at login06:56
garryI used package manager after backking things up, and now have both gnome and kde on Ubuntu. its been over a week, and it still seems to work ok.06:56
karlanbut i can only see the files there, not execute them nor copy them06:56
Zen_ian_: I had good luck with Debian, but it was like the AlwaysSave of linux--what is there is fine, but you just don't get much06:57
sudharshkarlan...maybe i  missed all the fun....but u wont hav write access to ntfs partitions06:57
Zen_ian_: I like Ubuntu too :)06:57
_ian_hmmm the package manager is the add application in the menu right?06:57
sudharshkarlan else...do a umount and try again06:57
garrywhat brenner said is important about switching between windows managers.06:57
Zen_ian_: That's one--you still have synaptic06:57
karlansudharsh, i just want to copy over some mp3's, not write to the ntfs.that i have understood that there is a compability issue06:58
neoxitehi, installed ubuntu 5.10 in server-expert mode, but now i'd like to manually set up usplash again, i haven't found a tutorial for that though06:58
sudharshtry doing it as root06:58
karlansudharsh, just umount in terminal?06:58
z|banditois there a place to see hardware support issues?  like known issues with a given chipset or mobo06:58
shadowplayZen: don't get much? Debian's got a lot of packages.  But not as slick or uptodate a Ubuntu, yes06:58
sudharshno...umount /dev/<whatever>06:58
Zenkarlan: When you mount your ntfs partition, use the options ro,umask=0222 and it will prevent write damage to it06:59
sudharshand then try mounting the partitions one by one06:59
brenner_ian_: no.  that's just a small frontend to common apps people may want.  the "real" package mgr is synaptic06:59
karlansudharsh, it has been like this since i installed ubuntu. never got any permissions to the ntfs part. it remounts every time it starts, right?06:59
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sudharshkarlan....i dont hav ntfs partitins06:59
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karlansudharsh, ok :\06:59
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_ian_ok im here now which oen do i choose?06:59
sudharshtry unmounting everything...u have to be root for that06:59
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timfrost_ian_, no, System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager07:00
Pygihe can "unmount" everything07:00
nemikso any of your universities use EAP-TTLS with PAP? WPA_supplicant just won't work for me...07:00
_ian_all the klde desktop envioronment?07:00
_ian_kde?07:00
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Zenshadowplay: yeah, that's pretty much what I mean...except for the base install has a lot less stuff (like ALSA--dunno why anybody would still use OSS as the default)07:00
garryyes, all that starts with kde.07:00
karlando you know if it is possible to convert a disk from ntfs to fat32 without deleting the files? ;D07:00
sudharshmaybe partition magic works :D07:01
karlansudharsh, even the ext3 part.?07:01
liablekarlan: you cant do that.07:01
sudharshnoo...jus the ntfs part ur havin trouble with07:01
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karlanliable, didnt think so :)07:01
karlansudharsh, ok, w807:01
elw00tello07:01
garryI wonder if extX and reiserfs and other linux partitions ever need defragging.07:01
nemikwell transfer the files from one partition to the other, then format it and change, then put the files back,....07:02
timfrost_ian_, the meta-packlage kubuntu_desktop will pull in all the packages you need07:02
brenner_ian_: search button, then find kubuntu-desktop07:02
meshekarlan: i had to do that yesterday, i copied the files from my ntfs D drive to my ntfs C drive then reformatted D to ntfs and copied the files back07:02
karlanmeshe, yeah, but i got like 1 gig free space now :)07:02
garrynice timfrost that is much simpler07:02
meshethen blew away the C drive and installed ubuntu on it :)07:02
shadowplaykarlan: if you are only concerned with accessing data from linux though, you dont need to convert.  Just shrink the NTFS, make a new vfat partition, and copy the data over.  if you have the space.07:02
karlanso that isnt an option for me at this time :\07:02
meshe:(07:02
meshehave a dvd burner?07:02
brennergarry: not sure on reiser, but i'm pretty sure ext* don't need to07:03
karlanmeshe, yeah, but not the time or dvd-r's to burn out 150 gigs of files ;D07:03
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garrybrenner :) Thanks!07:03
shadowplaygarry: reiser doesn't either07:03
karlanwell, thank you for your time and help :)07:03
_ian_ok found it ill install it now07:03
garrythanks kindly07:03
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BradMdude07:03
karlanwill try to borrow a new disk to get all my files so i can copy it over to ext307:04
BradMwhile connected to an FTP server via terminal..if i type chmod -R 777 dir ..it doesn't work07:04
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garrybrenner shadowplay says reiserfs doesn't need it either.07:04
meshego to a store that has a good return policy and buy a hard drive, copy the data to it, reformat the drive, copy the data back and return the drive?07:04
garryhaha07:04
sudharshBradM use gftp07:04
BradMno07:04
karlanwhat is the biggest filesize ext3 capable of?07:04
BradMi want to use a terminal07:04
timfrostgarry, there are packages like that for each of the different desktop enmvironments - ubuntu-desktop for gnome, xubuntu-desktop for XFCE07:04
BradMnow answer my question according to what i asked, or dont say shit to me07:05
sudharshwell u cant chmod a public server07:05
BradMerm07:05
shadowplaykarlan: also look to see if cygwin can mount ext3.  Then you can boot to windows, and use cygwin for the copy.07:05
BradMwho said it was public?07:05
BradMits my person webserver07:05
BradMpersonal*07:05
BradMso hwo do you fucking do it07:05
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karlancygwin?07:05
peejevery now and then my ubuntu freezes. Maybe 3 or 4 times a day. Knoppix seems fine though, so it is probably not a hardware problem.07:05
meshecygwin can mount ext307:05
garrytimfrost,  Yep, found em. Sure is nice to have them so handy. :)07:05
Myrttiplease watch your language07:05
sudharshdude u gotta need some decency07:05
BradMMyrtti, okay..sorry07:05
Myrttithank you.07:06
Myrtti--> hot shower07:06
sudharshk u missed the *07:06
_ian_ok im downloading now....after the downlaod of the kubuntu desk top all i have to do is log in as kde right?07:06
BradMMyrtti, no problem07:06
_ian_uysing the same password and log in name?07:06
shadowplayBradM: ssh to the server instead.07:06
BradMplease and thank you tend to have a better affect07:06
sudharsh_ian_ yes07:06
B_166-ER-X!win3207:06
ubotuB_166-ER-X: Did you get hit by a windmill?07:06
BradMshadowplay, ever think that the server might not support SSH?07:06
karlanshadowplay, have patient with me, i recently came home from work :) So if i got this right, use Cygwin under Windows, and mount my ext3 partition and copy over the files there?07:06
garryLOg out, log in after clicking session, as brenner mentioned.07:06
mark_Hey guys, any idea why the installation process and then the boot process could be soooo slow (on P-M with 1 gig of memory), thanks07:07
B_166-ER-X!win32codecs07:07
ubotuwin32codecs is, like, totally, binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/07:07
sethkmark_, shouldn't be.07:07
sethkmark_, that's plenty of ram.  the P-M isn't a screamer, but I have one here and it isn't noticably slow07:08
peejbradm: what's your query?07:08
brennermark_: breezy?07:08
BradMpeej, erm07:08
mark_yep07:08
BradMmy query?07:08
sudharshBr,07:08
sudharshBradM u missed the *07:08
shadowplayBradM: ok, well my guess is (and I haven't done it in a long time) you will need to send a server command via ftp07:08
BradMif i go to a terminal and type ftp www.whatever.com and want to chmod somethign with the recursive switch..how do i do it? .....07:08
palomerdoes ubuntu use unstable?07:08
sethkmark_, not much you can do to investigate install, but the boot process you can investigate07:08
BradMchmod -R 777 dir07:08
BradMdoesn't work07:08
sudharshu should use *07:08
peejbradm : how do you fucking do it ? do what?07:08
BradMi believe i have already stated that07:09
BradMsudharsh, use * for what?07:09
timfrostBradM, are you trying to change things on the remote server07:09
BradM.....07:09
BradMits a webserver07:09
BradMnot mine, i dont run it07:09
BradMi want to chmod a directory07:09
peejbradm: yup. You have ftp access? web access?07:09
BradMand all files under it07:09
BradMYES IM NOT THAT STUPID07:09
BradMi just need the correct chmoding syntax07:10
brennerpalomer: as in debian repos? no07:10
Zenwhat kind of themes do I look for to use with Ubuntu?07:10
mark_sethk: Hmm, how? It seems that each individual element of the boot process is very slow...07:10
sudharshu need to change the permissions all the files u need to use chmod 777 * -R07:10
BradMahh07:10
peejok, so run a cgi that does it for you.07:10
BradMwait07:10
crimsunI don't think you want to give the files the same mask as the directory.07:10
BradM* ??07:10
BradMthat is a wildcard07:10
BradMand it will do it to all files07:10
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palomerbrenner: is it dangerous to upgrade ubuntu with unstable?07:10
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sudharshZen gotot gnome-look.org07:10
BradMnvm07:10
sethkmark_, I would boot into maintenance mode and run each one.  If they are all slow, then there is a common cause, but the only way to find it is to investigate one slow part07:10
BradMchmod 777 DIRECTORY -R07:10
sudharshBradM i thought thats what u r tryin 2 do07:10
peejbradm : chmod -R whateverdirectory    from within backticks in perl will do it.07:11
crimsunI _really_ don't think you want 0777.07:11
BradMstill didn't work07:11
_ian_will the packages that oi have installed using gnome be detected when i run kde?07:11
mark_-- furthermore, I know it sounds silly, but even grub seems to take more than it should (e.g. it takes 3-4 seconds to load, whereas on similar laptop it takes less than a second)07:11
brennerpalomer: dunno sorry07:11
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sudharsh_ian_ it will07:11
sethkmark_, it doesn't sound silly, but unfortunately it also doesn't sound obvious07:11
peejbradm: your syntax is fucked up. Here is a literal example: chmod -R 777 directorywhatever07:11
crimsunBradM: not all ftpds allow that. You need to ssh in.07:12
BradMthat dont work07:12
sethkmark_, you mean the part of grub before the boot splash?07:12
BradMcrimsun, can't07:12
mark_seth: yep07:12
sudharshgotta use sudo07:12
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sethkmark_, about the only thing of any load at that point is reading the disk07:13
shadowplayBradM: look at the quote and site commands07:13
BradMftp> chmod -R 777 cutenews07:13
BradM550 Could not change perms on 777: No such file or directory07:13
BradMftp> chmod 777 -R cutenews07:13
sethkmark_, which certainly could slow everything up07:13
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sethkmark_, after it boots, try using the IDE drive test program and get a read rate on the disk07:13
varsendaggeranyone from bozeman mt?07:13
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peejbradm: you're probably not in the right directory. Look, if you have web access, run it as a cgi script, so you can specify the full path etc.07:14
mark_sethk: ok, thanks, any standard names here?07:14
BradMyou're an idiot07:14
sethkmark_, hdparm?  let me check07:14
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ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion07:15
garryBradM, please, politeness here has been so refreshing. It would be wonderful to keep it that way.07:15
sethkmark_, yes, hdparm has flags to test the drive performance.  Of course use a read only non-destructive test07:15
kaszhow do you apply a unified diff that has been made with the recursive option?07:15
shadowplayBradM: why in the world is he an idiot?  That would work fine as long as your cgi scripts have perms07:15
BradMdont07:16
BradMsay07:16
BradMmy07:16
BradMnick07:16
BradMagain07:16
tescoilawright.  Inadvertently deleted the lower panel on the desktop.  Got it back, but nothing will minimize to it now.07:16
Myrttioh please07:16
mark_sethk: well bufered disk reads seem to be fine: 17Mb/S07:16
sethkmark_, that's quite low, but not low enough to cause what you are seeing, I agree07:16
garryWhy? Nothing wrong with your nick.07:16
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sethkmark_, you just don't have enough data.  You have to gather more.07:16
sethkmark_, the SAR toolkit has a lot of performance measuring utilities07:17
BradMyes07:17
BradMit makes me beep07:17
BradMand its annoying07:17
tescoilThat is, minimizing a window just disappears off to the bottom of the screen, to no icon limbo.07:17
garryoh wow07:17
sethkBradM, we can help you get rid of the beep.  which irc client do you use?  :)07:17
garrythat would be annoying.07:17
BradMhaha07:17
BradMi dont want you to help me07:17
peejbradm: if you can't figure it out, say why. Leaving out the insults will help you get help.07:17
BradMdont say it07:17
sethkpeej, just assume he is frustrated and ignore him.07:18
Zensudharsh: this is so weird--I stumbled over this last time07:18
Myrttihe doesn't want us to help him, so let's leave him be.07:18
B_166-ER-Xis there an other way to get w32codecs ? the repos from seveas are not working07:18
Zensudharsh: Now I can't figure out how to download any themes07:18
MyrttiI don't like people being rude here07:18
sethkMyrtti, neither do I, and I try not to be rude, but it happens occasionally.07:18
sudharshZen......i didnt get u07:19
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mark_sethk:  ok, i will try to check... But it is still weird - XP works fine...07:20
garrysystem/preferences/art manager to download more themes.07:20
sethkmark_, it is definitely weird.  unfortunately weird doesn't help us fix it.  :)07:20
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sethkmark_, the drive not using dma is something that can cause what you are seeing, but hdparm would show a lower rate07:20
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sethkmark_, what processor?  which install did you use?07:21
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chihuonghelp me07:21
damastaB_166-ER-X, get them from mplayer's website07:21
rollohow do you install firefox 1.5 on ubuntu?07:21
_ian_anyone can paste a good tutorial for ubuntu beginners07:21
chihuongx-unikey in ubuntu07:21
sethkchihuong, ask question, get help.07:21
damastarollo, I'm using the download from mozilla's site07:21
shadowplayrollo: just download it from mozilla, and unzip it.  I don't think there's a pkg for it yet07:21
BradMdude07:21
sudharsh_ian_ check ubuntuguide07:22
BradMwith gftp you can't chmod one folder and make it chmod EVERYTHING under it07:22
rollook thanks damasta and shadowplay07:22
sudharshrollo try this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion07:22
mark_sethk: centrino 1.4Ghz, (I am not sure about which variation of centrino), i've used the last install from ubunto07:22
Myrtti!ubuntuguide07:22
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ubotufrom memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead07:22
tescoilIs there somewhere I have to define the general behavior of the minimize button on application windows?07:22
sethkmark_, the 386 version, then.07:22
rolloThanks sudharsh07:22
mark_sethk:  yep07:22
sethkmark_, I wonder if power management (ACPI) is throttling the cpu07:23
sethkmark_, that doesn't help us with grub, though07:23
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kaszhow do you apply a unified diff that has been made with the recursive option?07:23
sethkmark_, just for a test, disable power management in the bios, see if there is any noticable change in the performance.07:23
mark_possibly, the cpufreq says the frequency is 600000...07:24
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sethkmark_, that's a weird number.  But you still have the XP doesn't do it to account for07:24
gregi need a lil help again i'm tring to install a program and it is telling me to sign in as the super user and i just finished installing it. and i signed in as the admin07:25
palomergreg: that sounds awful:O!07:25
mark_sethk: why is it weird?07:25
garrygreg, ye used sudo before the command to install?07:25
sethkmark_, 600000 for a 1.4 M?07:25
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shadowplaygreg: you installed it using synaptic?07:26
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sudharshgreg use sudo07:26
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gregok i will07:26
_ian_ok im done downlaoding the kubuntu desktop in synaptic...then it asked me what manager to be default i chose kdm would that pose a problem?07:26
Myrttinope07:26
sudharshits ur wish _ian_ whichever u think looks good07:26
sethk_ian_, probably not, but it isn't necessary.07:27
mark_sethk: the cpuinfo_min/max freq says 600/140007:27
sethk_ian_, why use kdm if gdm is installed and working?07:27
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ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion07:27
sethkmark_, oh, I thought you meant 600 fixed07:27
garryHe misses some of the goodies in kde07:27
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peejevery now and then my ubuntu freezes. Maybe 3 or 4 times a day. Knoppix seems fine though, so it is probably not a hardware problem. Just running on knoppix for now to see if I get a freeze.07:28
sethkgarry, by not using kdm?  I doubt it.  kdm only starts kde, it doesn't help it run.07:28
sethkgarry, unless you mean start options or something like that07:28
Myrttipeej: try running memtest at startup07:28
mark_sethk: no, just the cpu_cur_freq is set to it...  I dunno, but the speed of processor should not affect it that mcuh, I think hard drive is more likely to be the reason...07:28
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garrysethk sounds like I misread something.07:28
sudharshsethk....is that so07:29
sethkgarry, ok07:29
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mark_sethk: is there any easy way to see if DMA is enabled?07:29
Myrttipeej: since knoppix reads everything from the disk the RAM problems might not show with it07:29
sethkmark_, I agree that the disk is more likely, but you measured the rate and that measurement is usually fairly accurate.07:29
BradMim going to fucking sleep07:29
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sethkmark_, yes, the SMART utility will show you that07:29
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mark_sethk: what package is it in?07:30
greghas anyone ever installed showeq with ubuntu?07:30
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sethkmark_, smartctl07:30
shadowplaypeej: you're running knopixx off the livecd?  The freezing with ubuntu could be a drive problem then?07:30
mark_sethk: what package is it in?07:30
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sethkmark_, not sure, I installed it from source.07:30
sethkmark_, should be in a disk utilities package07:31
LinuxMonki just installed a program to come to find out it copied the root pw as its own yet i had not changed it to my own yet, so I uninstall the package and now when i try to re-install it wont fully install cause it says it was a previously deselected package. how do I fix this07:31
garryOh yes, shadowplay , I had same issue, it was the hard drive going bad.07:31
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sudharshLinuxMonk...try apt-get update07:31
_ian_for me i think i just want kde better....im a newbie on ;linux but i feel its easier to use07:32
sudharshand then apt-get install -f07:32
sudharsh_ian_ go for it07:32
shadowplayLinuxMonk: if that doesn't work, you might try purging the package first.07:32
LinuxMonkshadowplay how do I do that?07:33
shadowplay_ian_: you're in good company.  Linus likes it too.07:33
mark_sethk: can't seem to find it...07:33
timfrostLinuxMonk, try sudo apt-get remove --purge <package>07:33
sethkmark_, it's a very small thing, download and build the source07:33
sethkmark_, it won't bother the package manager.07:33
garryI installed dropline gnome on my slack, its lovely, its precompiled for 686 as opposed to the kde which was for 386 or 48607:33
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sethkmark_, look for smartd, that should be part of the same package07:33
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sudharshgarry: the url?07:33
odathi everyone07:34
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sudharshbrb07:34
garrysudharsh I had to google dropline and gnome. I think i tmight be www.dropline.net07:34
LinuxMonkoh crap, im running kubuntu is it the same thing?07:34
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polpakLinuxMonk: essentially07:35
polpakLinuxMonk: just a different desktop environment07:35
_ian_okim gonna log out and log in again see if it works!:)07:35
shadowplayodat: we're not being rude... ppl just drop in and ask questions, mostly, without the greetings07:35
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cozmorning all07:35
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garrysudharsh Its not much different if at all from ubuntu's gnome, so I'm not sure it will install right, but worth a look I suppose.07:35
odati like to say hi07:35
cozhello odat07:36
rabeldableanyone know anything about burning dvd's?  I'm trying to copy a movie and it hangs at 50%07:36
odatcoz, sup07:36
sethkLinuxMonk, look at the force flags to dpkg07:36
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cozrabeldable what app are you using to burn07:36
garryDrat, Coz says its already teusday and I've not recovered from last monday yet!07:36
sethkLinuxMonk, I think apt-get can force some things; dpkg can definitely force it to complete the install and ignore the message07:36
cozgarry dude sorry07:36
rabeldablegnomebaker07:36
garryhehe.07:36
cozthat is the one to use07:37
cozwhat are your trying to burn07:37
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garrycoz I remember a garfield where he says he hates mondays and rips all the mondays out of a calendar and the next frame, its totally blank.07:37
cozwho was the guy that needed to install dvd capablilities earlier?07:38
iantecits working:)))))))07:38
rabeldableits an old war movie... green barret07:38
cobelloyhello again all07:38
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rabeldableI can watch movies all day long with no problems07:38
garrygrats iantec07:38
cozrebeldable there should be no reason hold on07:38
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rabeldablei wonder if there is some chip in my laptop preventing burning dvd's07:39
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duuudedoes anyone have experience installing the SDL_mixer?07:39
cobelloyhey does anyone have the correct apt lines for the hoary backports?07:39
cozprbably not do you have dma enabled07:39
LinuxMonkTY TY guys it worked07:39
rabeldablei heard compaq puts chips in their desktops to prevent copyright...07:39
nemikwell transfer the files from one partition to the other, then format it and change, then put the files back,....07:39
nemikso any of your universities use EAP-TTLS with PAP? WPA_supplicant just won't work for me...07:39
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cozif it isd anew motherboard maybe so07:40
Mez!tell cobelloy about backports07:40
crimsun!info libsdl-mixer1.207:40
rabeldablewhere would I check for dma?07:40
ubotulibsdl-mixer1.2: (mixer library for Simple DirectMedia Layer 1.2), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.2.6-1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 128 kB, Installed size: 332 kB07:40
odatcobelloy, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:40
cozNO no t compaq07:40
cobelloywhat about backports?07:40
sethkrabeldable, smartctl, hdparm07:40
cozok open the terminal07:40
odatcobelloy, go to that site07:40
cobelloythank you odat - brb07:40
sudharsh_rabeldabe hdparm -d /dev/<awhatever>07:40
iantechmmm its kinda weird though....why are some windows too long?07:40
jclintonWhoa!? Look at this! http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/?p=15907:40
rabeldableits a new laptop... toshiba07:40
jclintonMono going in to RedHat!07:40
cozrabeldable open a terminal07:40
jclintonhell is freezing somewhere07:41
cozsudo hdparm /dev/hdc07:41
coztell me what it says07:41
shadowplayjclinton: what's Mono?07:41
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coznuleosis?07:41
odatanyone heard anything more about Apple releasing their OS for all hardware?07:41
cozodat that is like windows going open source07:42
iantecok anyway how do i put gnome as the efault startup again?07:42
LinuxMonkyeah odat its not gonna happen07:42
jclintonshadowplay, a controversial implementation of MS's .Net architecture07:42
cozrabeldable did you do the terminal thing07:42
garry!tell jclinton about mono.07:42
odatLinuxMonk, dunno they have OS X for intel07:42
odatya know07:42
sethkodat, they agreed to do it, then backed out several times.  It comes up occasionally but it doesn't happen.07:42
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cozrabeldable you still here????07:42
rabeldablecoz: yeah out put shows IO_support, readonly, readahead and geometry.. btw its /dev/sda for me07:42
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iantecanyone?07:43
cozok type in sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc07:43
sudharsh_rabeldabe hdparm -d /dev/<awhatever>07:43
odatsethk, yea but i mean they really have OS X for intel they are using intel chips soon  you can actually get OS X for intel on certain "cough" sites07:43
cozthat is a one not an l07:43
LinuxMonkyeah but its hardware locked down and that steve said that his OS would not be released for other hardware other than what u buy from apple07:43
!lilo:*! Looks as if we'll be restarting another main rotation server soon; this time about 1,300 users affected. If you're on the server in question, your status/notices window should have information on it.07:43
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cozrabeldable now sudo gedit /etc/hdparm.conf07:44
cozrabeldable tell when that opens07:44
sethkodat, yes, but I think the question was about apple doing what IBM did with opening up the hardware architecture.07:44
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sethkodat, unless I misunderstood07:44
odatLinuxMonk, i think that is a smoke screen more than anything    just like he used to say we don't have or are working on os x for intel07:44
rabeldablecoz: HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device07:44
iantecwell i have to go now thanks guys!07:44
LinuxMonknow odat if yer gonna do something illegal dont tell us about and make sure to call the local law enforcement agency in your country :)07:44
cozcheck to see where your dvd is07:44
cobelloyodat - that was cool!07:44
cobelloyI never find these things when I look :(07:45
odatsethk, i think they may just start selliing the OS for what ever machine now since they have a new bread and butter the ipod and the music store07:45
LinuxMonklol cracking osX for intel, just run linux :)07:45
odatLinuxMonk, lol07:45
odatcobelloy, oh you got your sources07:45
rabeldable/etc/hdparm.conf is all commented out except one line that says quiet07:45
karlani dont have any sound in VLC :( sound in Beep-media-player works fine. what is wrong?07:46
shadowplayodat: all I know is our uni replaced their aging G4's with Dual G5's with cinema displays.  Crazy overpowered for labs where people mostly use Word.  Maybe they're donated tho.07:46
odatkarlan, use mplayer07:46
cozVLC on linux is the worst great on windows07:46
karlanodat, my mplayer dont work. crashes etc07:46
sudharsh_rabledable try adding /dev/cdrom {07:46
sudharsh_       dma = on07:46
sudharsh_}07:46
cozI use both totem-xine and mplayer but only totem-xine for movies07:47
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shadowplaykarlan: are they both configured to use esd?07:47
LinuxMonka friend of mine works for a small programming company and they got hired by apple to create some apps for the intel base, so he showed me the running osx on intel, it was preaty sharp but was missing a whole lot of stuff since it was being developped07:47
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signbarnIs there any way I can make changes that i make to /dev (creating symlinks and changing permissions) permanent? When I restart my computer, everything just reverts to the way it was.07:47
sudharsh_jus sub /dev/cdrom with /dev/<whatever>07:47
cozrabeldable sudharsh is right about the insers for hdparm07:47
odatShadowline, they are going to intel   steve said during a conference and he ran the whole show on os x running on intel  :)   anyway it would be interesting to see07:47
karlan"Audio Output module: Linux OSS audio output"07:47
rabeldablesudharsh_: what about io32_support = 0 and interupt_unmask = on  ??07:47
cozrabeldable there are many links to problems enabling dma on laptops I have to look into this more07:48
odatkarlan, then change your preferences of mplayer to esd and get rid of vlc07:48
cobelloyI use vlc on my daughters ppc07:48
cobelloyonly one that works right07:48
sudharsh_it'll work07:48
cozppc yes for vls not linux07:48
karlanodat, i cant even start  mplayer, less configure it :\07:48
odati have found mplayer to be the best for linux by far07:48
cozwhat os on ppc07:48
sudharsh_i dont hav any o those stuff07:48
cobelloygot it through synaptic - had all the codecs and everything built in I think07:48
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cobelloyubuntu on ppc07:49
shadowplaykarlan: you should probably set them both to use esd.  Otherwise it's first come first server on /dev/dsp and only one program can use sound at a time07:49
duuudeso , has anyone here successfully installed SDL Mixer?07:49
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cozoh well still think totem-xine is best07:49
odatkarlan, you should get your self some new repos  and probably reinstall it07:49
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odatkarlan, go here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:49
duuudei'm trying to install SDL mixer on a fresh hoary install on a powerbook (ppc)07:49
cozduuude I haven't07:49
cobelloyhang on I had a sound prob with vlc07:49
cobelloythat I solved07:49
cozsound prob with VLC how unusual07:49
cozlol07:49
odatanyone see this bible code thing07:49
rabeldableok07:50
odatwatching on history channel now07:50
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cobelloyI think you have to select the correct sound output or something, in the options or preferences07:50
odatpretty weird '07:50
karlanbrb07:50
cozrabeldable did you get dma on07:50
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burstnetmaybe somebody here knows the fix to this, but everytime i click applications menu it shows for less then a second and then dissapears07:50
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cobelloylike OSD or alsa - you know07:50
starscallingok really wierd thing here07:50
odatcobelloy, did you get a cool repositories list?07:50
cobelloytotally dude!07:51
signbarnodat: it's neat, but until it makes testable predictions, it's just 20/20 hindsight07:51
burstnetbut the places and system menus work fine07:51
xhaleanyone free? a noob (me) needs some help with a fresh install.07:51
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cozburstnet oh boy thi sis where I usually reboot and if that doesn't work reinstall07:51
cobelloyxhale - I am free07:51
starscallingi go to azureus.sourceforge.com and i have mozilla installed. when i click on the links that are *.php like download.php it crashes.... any clue why that might be??07:51
xhalepm?07:51
shadowplayodat: if it makes their prices come down, it'll help.  Otoh, they've spent their whole history claiming that their hardware is better, and if they go to intel, it hurts their credibility07:51
odatsignbarn, yea but pretty cool none the less07:51
cobelloymaybe I can help07:51
burstnetcoz crap afraid somebody was gonna say that... rebooted already that didn't fix problem07:51
lilothere'll be a small server restart in a few moments; affected users, about 1,30007:51
cozOk what did you last install?07:51
starscallingnothing shows up when i run from a terminal07:51
signbarnodat: i'd like to see them do the same thing with Crime and Punishment :-)07:51
cozburstnet last installation?07:51
burstnetcoz uhh... don't remember  nothing really07:52
cobelloyoh right - yeah if you like07:52
burstnetmaybe gaim-encryption  but that was it07:52
odatShadowplay  most of their claim was that they made the whole widget that the left hand knows what the right hand is doing hence a better pc   i think they could do both07:52
burstnetoh wait07:52
burstnetit started happening when i installed kde07:52
cozOk best route to figure things out is to backtrack metally to just before the problem07:52
duuudenoob question:  how do you open an RPM?  i have a fresh hoary install, can't figure it out07:52
odatsignbarn, lol07:52
cobelloyduuude alien07:52
rabeldablei keep getting this in my hdparm output: HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device07:52
shadowplayduuude: instal the alien package07:52
cozapt-get install alien07:52
cobelloylook up how to use alien in google - it is easy07:53
cobelloybut cant remember off top of head07:53
cozalien package name07:53
cobelloyxhale did u want help?07:53
shadowplayfakeroot alien <dir with rpms>|rpmfile07:53
cobelloycoz - don't u specify an output name too ?07:53
starscallingany clue anyone?07:53
signbarnis there any way I can make changes that i make to /dev (creating symlinks and changing permissions) permanent? when i restart my computer, everything just reverts to the way it was.07:53
xhaleI pm'd you cobelloy07:53
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cozburstnet get rid of KDE07:54
cobelloyoh - sorry, I didn't get it - hang on07:54
cozcobelloy I don't thnk so07:54
cozput it into your home folder and alien it from there07:54
shadowplaycobelloy: no, the rpms get turned into debs.07:54
cozit should put it right in the home folder or do it on the desktop07:54
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batmanhey does anyone know why after i installed a new dvd drive why ubuntu won't boot up? all of my hard drives etc.. do have power07:54
cobelloyxhale I have pm'd you now07:54
shadowplaycobelloy: (meaning aliean uses it's own filenames for the debs)07:55
cobelloyI think...07:55
cozburstnet did  you install KDE after installing the gnome ubuntu?07:55
cobelloyyeah, I think last time I used it I specified an output directory different to the input dir, I think...07:55
shadowplaybatman: you have the jumpers set properly for master/slaves?07:55
xhaleI didnt get anything cobel07:55
batmanshadowplay, yes i have both the disc drives set to cs07:56
cobelloyxhale why don't you post your issue in the main window instead?07:56
cozcobelloy not necessary it will put the file where the original is aliened from07:56
peejbatman,: at what point in boot up is it failing?07:56
batmanpeej, module loading07:56
xhalesyre07:56
xhalesure07:56
cobelloyooooooh07:56
xhale[22:52:04]  <xhale> I dont know exactly what I did wrong07:56
xhale[22:52:20]  <xhale> but I make it all the way to the log in screen07:56
xhale[22:52:47]  <xhale> put my user/pass in and then it plays the login sound but the background is all pixelated and the gui never loads07:56
peejbatman: what's the last module you see loading?07:56
sethkbatman, if you have sata, adding the dvd can change the /dev names for drives07:56
cozOk I am now officially lost in the conversation07:56
GURTis it safe to uninstall kernels that i don't use? and in doing that will it remove allt he entries in GRUB?07:56
cobelloymmm think Ive had a similar prob, let me think...07:56
batmanpeej, it just says loading modules and doesn't load any07:57
signbarnxhale, what caused that?07:57
odatso does anyone see this SCO thing as a threat?07:57
batmansethk, it isn't sata its ata07:57
sethkGURT, safer to just erase them07:57
xhalenothing, fresh install07:57
cozGURT if it isn't broken leave it alone07:57
sudharsh_GURT yup jus dont remov the default kernel07:57
cozI know that sounds like I amj joking but I am not07:57
cobelloyit is probably a video issue - do you get back to the cmd line07:57
shadowplayodat: gawd, i spent hours reading about that this weekend07:57
GURTi dont think i have a default one07:57
sethkbatman, two possibilities.  Either the /dev names changed or the dvd thing is screwing up dma07:57
odatshadowplay, and?07:57
cozGURT what you can do is sudo apt-get autoclean07:57
sethkGURT, the first one is the default if you don't explicitly specify default07:58
cobelloyyou can edit your x11 config from there using vi editor - it is quite easy, believe it or not07:58
signbarnxhale, do you have an nvidia or ati video card?07:58
batmansethk, what do you suggest me doing?07:58
xhaleactually if I click on the session button then the screen goes pixelated too and it seems to freeze up07:58
xhalenvidia 7800GT07:58
peejbatman: dunno, but I'd go with sethk on this.07:58
odatxhale, did you install glx?07:58
cozxhale what is the problem again i got lost07:58
sethkbatman, boot the install cd in rescue mode and look at the /dev names, to start07:58
allison_1984peej....07:58
shadowplayodat: Morgan Stanley did a survey showing that many cio's have experienced sales 'pressure' to not use linux.  The good news is they didn't let it affect their decisions07:58
sethkbatman, you can try turning off DMA in the bios for all the drives.  You won't want to do that permanently, but it is a good test07:59
peejbatman: fdisk -l is useful for that07:59
GURTcoz: ok, i got it07:59
cobelloycan anyone remember how to launch the vi tutorial from cmd line?07:59
cozOK good07:59
xhaleI went through a fresh install, 64-bit from the cd they shipped me07:59
cobelloysorry dude gotta go for a bit07:59
cobelloybrb07:59
odatshadowplay, yea but you think SCO's claim holds and water?07:59
batmansethk, also is there a way i can set my sound card back to the defaults?07:59
shadowplayodat: but as for the cases themselves, who knows, but I think SCO's full of it07:59
signbarnxhale, you just need to install the nvidia-glx07:59
peejbatman: the -l option just lists the drives it sees and how they're labled. useful.07:59
xhaleI made it all the way through the install, then got to the login screen, put in my L/P and the background goes pixelated07:59
cozxhale there is not a bunch of things for the 64 bit ubuntu drivers, flash, etc07:59
xhaleand wont respond07:59
signbarnt xhale, ctrl+alt+f1 into the terminal08:00
sethkbatman, you mean the software configuration for your sound card?  I'm not sure how to do that.   It can be done08:00
GURTwhat do i do with autoclean? anything?08:00
cozI amy be wrong but my nephew is upstairs installing 64 butubntu now I will let you know08:00
coznot bubuntu just ubuntu08:00
xhalehow do I install the drivers? are there 64 bit drivers for linux?08:00
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odatshadowplay, well the fact that they used to support linux and sell linux based systems is kind of a shot in the foot08:00
peejbatman: you mean the volume levels for the various bits?08:00
xhaleI'm very new to this08:00
cozxhale there may not be08:00
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batmanpeej, yes like the settings for volume etc..08:00
ice_1963well yes08:00
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cozthat is one of the many things wrong with it right now08:00
signbarnhmm... i'm not familiar with ubuntu 6408:01
shadowplayodat: One problem being that during the berkley/ATT decision, the judge found that AT&T had improperly incorporated outside code (I think even berkley code).08:01
cozbut do not take my word for that08:01
signbarnt xhale it's worth a try08:01
xhaleshould I instead install the 32 bit version cd I got?08:01
cozyes you can always go windows 64 bit if all else fails08:01
signbarnwoops. too much MUDding08:01
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errolhello08:01
sethkxhale, I would do the 32 bit, get comfortable, then move to 6408:01
xhaledoesnt matter to me either way, I thought since I have a 64bit cpu I would try the 64 bit ubuntu08:01
cozerrol hello08:01
erroli am new to Ubuntu08:01
errolmy first hour08:01
errol:)08:01
peejbatman: man aumix tells you stuff that way - I use it to set a default volume I am happy with during the last stages of boot. Otherwise, if you are using alsa, I think it saves and restores stuff automagically.08:01
cozxhale try it dude nothing to lose08:01
shadowplayodat: so the UNIX sources themselves have copyright probs.08:02
odatShadowplay  so they might have a case?08:02
peejerrol: cool. Are you logged in using it?08:02
errolyes08:02
cozerrol welcome to ubuntu08:02
erroli am using x chat08:02
xhalealright, I'm rebooting now08:02
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errolthank you coz08:02
cozerrol so am I08:02
errolthis is different08:02
cozerrol do you like it so far???08:02
batmanpeej, thanks ill mess with the dvd drive for now brb in like 10 mins08:02
erroli can get my wireless card to work08:02
GURTsethk: how do i set one to be my default?08:02
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cozerrol you can or you can't08:03
errolWG311v308:03
erroli cant08:03
erroli am using LAN08:03
erroli tried NDISWRAPPER08:03
sethkGURT, in the grub config?   a line like this:        default 008:03
odaterrol, again welcome to ubuntu lol08:03
signbarnlol08:03
cozah well join the crowd I am not an expert in networking perios08:03
errollol08:03
sethkGURT, that's the first in the file.  default 1 for the second, etc.08:03
GURTok08:03
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odatshadowplay, ?08:03
cozstay onlan errol it is faster anyway08:03
JoeBlowhey guys08:03
shadowplayodat: no the oposite... it undermines SCO's claim that linux stole from UNIX, because there's legal precedent that UNIX's copyrights aren't watertight08:03
xhaleI hope this works, the live cd boots up fine and I like it a lot08:03
rabeldableanyone ever play americas army?08:03
cozJoeBlow welcome08:04
cozrabeldable no t I guy08:04
JoeBlowrabeldable, I used to play it08:04
cozanyone here into animation?08:04
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sethkcoz, no, I'm organic08:04
cozsethk cute!08:04
rabeldablei'm burnng an image currently at 32%...08:05
JoeBlowrabeldable, why r u trying to get it to run on linux?08:05
shadowplayodat: AFAIK, they've dropped the 'trade secret' part of the suit, and they're suing IBM over IBM's continued use of AIX, when SCO suposedly revoked their licence.  Only SCO probably didn't have the right to revoke the licence.08:05
rabeldablei was thinking about putting it on ubuntu08:05
erroldoes anyone know if i will be able to play games on Ubuntu?08:05
errolLike Windoze08:05
cozerrol yes some games like what did you have in mind?08:05
sudharsh_errol: cedega08:05
sudharsh_its not free though08:05
erroli have counter strike08:05
errolwill it work08:05
xhalewhen I am doing the partitions manually, what do I set the "bootable flag" to?08:05
errolcedega08:05
rabeldableI had it running just fine with version 2.3 on redhat but now I got this ubuntu laptop... just thinking when I get bored it would be nice to get on and kill some noobs... :)08:05
errolpoint to play?!08:05
polpakerrol: yes08:06
sudharsh_purfect will work.....08:06
cozooo I can't answer that one I am ot really a gamer08:06
signbarnCedega works pretty well, yeah08:06
JoeBlowrabeldable, Ive been trying to get quake 2 to work on ubuntu, it does really funny things with it08:06
errollol08:06
odatShadowplay, i read that they never got the full rights from suse and novell08:06
sudharsh_yeah08:06
ice_1963well i like bzflag for a game08:06
polpakrabeldable: I don't think you need an ISO08:06
errolok guys i will leave you08:06
rabeldableyeah the last thing I want to do is break my box08:06
cozerrol nooo stay08:06
erroli want to check out the different channels08:06
polpakrabeldable: I just installed to the fs08:06
errolsorry coz08:06
xhalewhen I am doing the partitions manually, what do I set the "bootable flag" to?08:06
cozwell Ok go then08:06
erroli will be back!08:06
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cozguys the extent of my gaming is njam08:07
Kr0ntabanyone have quicktime content playing with xine (background info:  I already have all plugins working great with firefox... but am trying kubuntu/konqueror.... and apparently mplayer-plugin doesn't work with konq.)08:07
polpakxhale: you don't need to set anything bootable. Grub will handle it08:07
rabeldablepolpak: I want to make an ISO first just to be cleaner... I have one cd drive08:07
xhalek08:07
cozexcept on windows08:07
xhalethx08:07
sudharsh_guyz when i do apt-get update....soem repos gets 'Hit' what does that mean08:07
cozthe Myst series are my favorite and doom III08:07
shadowplayodat: bottom line i think is that SCO is taking on IBM, of all companies, *and* Novell.  IBM isn't exactly naive when it comes to legal matters!08:07
rabeldablei'm dong two things at once... 1) thinking about americas army install and 2) trying to burn a dvd08:07
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cozrabeldable right and left brain actibity08:08
cozactivity08:08
JoeBlowis their a prog like kazaa for linux, so i can download LEGAL files p2p08:08
shadowplayodat: yeah, exactly, that's the SCO vs Novell suit, which ironically is scheduled for after the sco v IBM (both in 2007)08:08
cozamule08:08
sudharsh_frostwire08:08
sethkShadowline, the whole sco thing is a joke, and as you said ibm has the resources to call their bluff08:08
cozJoeBlow amule08:08
signbarndoes SCO make money legitimately?08:08
rabeldableSCO is just trying to prolong death at this point08:08
starscallingeh new problem ;)08:09
cozstarscalling what is it08:09
rabeldablewell prolong the process anyways08:09
starscallingtrying to make my fat32 drive rw for all users [though there is only one atm] 08:09
odatshadowplay, well if it would by some dumbass chance be a hit to linux do they not know that freebsd is out there lol08:09
starscallingi cant seem to umount the device... says its busy08:09
starscallinghow can i do so so i can test the new settings w/o rebooting08:09
cozdid you rebott and try again?08:09
cozreboot08:09
JoeBlowcoz, ill try it out08:09
JoeBlowstarscalling, close /etc/fstab and try08:10
sethkstarscalling, man mount, look for vfat mount options uid= and gid=08:10
cozdownload it now JoeBlow if you have trouble conecting let me knw08:10
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starscallingsethk, those dont seem to work to well and JoeBlow its closed08:10
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batmanok does anyone here know how to set a sound card back to the default settings?08:10
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sethkstarscalling, they do work, so I think the people who said you didn't really remount are correct.08:11
odatit is just impossible to kill open source at this point08:11
cozdefault settings as in volume etc08:11
odatwill never happen08:11
JoeBlowcoz, so far its working08:11
cozgreat did you get all the servers to download08:11
sethkstarscalling, if it is busy and won't umount you have to kill whatever has a file open in it.08:11
batmancoz, yes default volume etc..08:11
starscallingoic08:11
starscallingcrap08:11
cozterminal  type alsa08:11
JoeBlowstarscalling, all i do is type , sudo nano /etc/fstab, then find the defaults part of the vfat partition, and change it to umask=000, works for me daily08:11
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starscallingyeah gonna try that then08:11
starscallingthanx08:11
starscallingprobably xchat keeping it open08:12
cozbatman did you get the miser open08:12
cozmixer08:12
batmanyes08:12
JoeBlowcoz, yea i got it working08:12
cozis that what you wanted???08:12
cozJoeBlow great it a good thing08:12
batmancoz, i want all the settings to default08:12
JoeBlowstarscalling, x chat should be on your root system,and so you shouldnt have to close it08:12
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JoeBlowcoz, yea thanks for the help08:12
JoeBlowcoz, time to go to work....08:13
JoeBlowtime to go to work........08:13
cozjoeBlow no prolbme08:13
shadowplayodat: It's more a question of making open-source licences stronger and more legally defined.08:13
JoeBlow:(08:13
cozbatman you will have to adjust thoses to your liking08:13
cozbatman what is happneing that you need to do this?08:13
odatshadowplay, odat nods08:13
cozJoeBlow it is money :)08:13
shadowplayodat: it's not going to hurt, it'll probably help.  Some ppl think sco just wants to get bought out.  It's the only thing that makes sense.08:13
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sudharsh_isnt gpl fine as it is08:14
batmancoz, i adjusted them to max on everything and its not playing through the sound card now i'm using a soundblaster 5.1 pci08:14
JoeBlowcoz, yea, and it all goes to my wife08:14
cozbatman I use the same card put everythnig back to middle values first08:14
JoeBlowcoz, ALL OF IT08:14
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cozYes I will send you a picture of my alsa if you want08:14
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cozseveral pics08:14
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JoeBlowcoz, I got take off tho, later bro08:15
cozbatman hold on08:15
kemikalsHi08:15
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cozok dude08:15
odatnetsplit?08:15
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batmancoz, so on yours it says alsa sb live [unknown] 08:15
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cozyes it does08:15
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cozit works fine though08:15
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coz let me make a few pics of the alsa mixer and send it to you08:15
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cozhold on08:15
shadowplaysudharsh_: sco claims it's unconstitutional and unenforcable (because FSF has sole authority to enforce it, while say IBM, can't enforce it even though they use it).  It's an argument, probably not a good one, but an argument that GPL is going to have to refute.08:16
shadowplaysudharsh_: it == gpl08:16
kemikalsif I use the default installation for a desktop, does it use /etc/X11/xorg.conf for the xorg default config file?08:16
GURTsethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6875 would i set default=4 if i want to use Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-686 as my default?08:16
Myrttiyes08:16
sudharsh_hows that gonna affect the curren tscheme o things anyway08:16
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sudharsh_i mean the end users in general08:17
!lilo:*! in the middle of preparations, we had one of our hubbing problems in Australia.... affected users, about 32008:17
odati would imagine the IBM linux alliance would then just buy SCO and be done with it08:17
!lilo:*! those users are now back....meanwhile, the scheduled server restart has been performed, and we're about 500 users short....they're slowly trickling back08:18
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sudharsh_k me off08:18
starscallingeh forgot about rox08:19
shadowplayodat: you'd think.  sco aquired unix from old-sco for under 100mil.  MSFT and Sun have paid more than that to sco in licencing fees!08:19
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shadowplayodat: i mean well under 100mil.  60's or 40's iirc.08:19
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odatshadowplay, then they are really afraid of death after sun playing around with linux now08:20
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cozbatmn hold on almost there08:21
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duuudehas anyone else had trouble with the JPEG library?  i try to instal SDL_image but it can't find the jpeg library08:22
rabeldablei think its halarious that SCO got so many people to give them money... even lately.  They must have some real god sales people... :)08:22
!lilo:*! looks as if we're just about back up to speed.... thanks everyone08:22
CaptainMorganwhere do I begin ?08:22
batmancoz, it works but it sounds all distorted from the settings i have it set to08:22
starscallinghum08:22
cozbatman I can send one pic at a time there are seven do you still want these?08:22
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starscallingcuriouser and curiouser08:23
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batmansure08:23
chuggaany lispers here?08:23
cozok hold on08:23
batmancoz, i have cable connection so no problem :P08:23
batmancoz, why don't you just compress them in a gzip?08:23
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cozbatman alrady started08:24
CaptainMorgansimply running vmplayer returns bin errors...08:24
cozbatman http://rapidshare.de/files/10762907/one.jpg.html08:24
shadowplayodat: http://www.catb.org/~esr/halloween/halloween9.html08:24
cozhttp://rapidshare.de/files/10762939/two.jpg.html08:25
cozhttp://rapidshare.de/files/10762949/three.jpg.html08:25
chuggawhere can i see a list of packages for ubuntu?08:25
cozhttp://rapidshare.de/files/10762950/four.jpg.html08:25
CaptainMorganwhy do I need the browser-appliance.zip ?08:25
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cozhttp://rapidshare.de/files/10762966/five.jpg.html08:26
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cozhttp://rapidshare.de/files/10762971/six.jpg.html08:26
signbarnhow do i go about scripting admin tasks? like changing permissions and making symlinks in the /dev directory08:26
cozhttp://rapidshare.de/files/10762980/seven.jpg.html08:26
shadowplayodat: eric raymond & co. have at the complaint that sco filed.  It's long and tedious (and funny), but the most interesting part is the appendix where they talk about how Intel's screw up with Itanium is what preciptated Caldera's slide to becoming sco08:26
Zen2, no 6, no 12; baker's dozen08:26
cozbatman next time I will compress08:26
ubuntuhello, i fubared my perfectly stable 5.10 installed with a dapper upgrade attempt. now i'm on a live dvd trying to access my previous home folder so i can recover my dcouments and do a clean reinstall, but it wont let me mount that partiona as file system 'linux' what am i supposed to use instead?08:27
starscallingarg08:27
starscallingwhere did they put azureus packages now08:27
signbarncupcakes?08:27
ubuntustar: i THINK its in multiverse08:27
shadowplayubuntu: it's either ext3 or reiserfs08:27
ubuntuthansk shadow08:27
batmancoz, umm does it matter about the emuk10k1 pcm send routing settings?08:27
starscallingi dont see it there lol08:27
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shadowplayubuntu: mount -t ext3 /dev/hdx /mount08:27
cozbatman what I have there is what works for me I make small adjustmets every now and then08:28
CaptainMorganI downloaded th player and attempted the run the file 'vmplayer' and nada happened...08:28
cozbut basically that is it08:28
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cozbatman you can also go to synaptic and download the alsamixer-gui08:28
starscallingyeah its not in multiverse08:28
cozit is many times more readable and there is also gnomealsa mixer as well08:28
starscallingor in backports08:28
starscalling!_!08:29
ubotustarscalling: Bugger all, i dunno08:29
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cozbut that one is a bit awkward08:29
batmancoz, thats what i'm using08:29
signbarnanyone have some insight? this is burning my brain. i need to automate the task of making symlinks and chaning permissions in the /dev directory, but each time i restart, none of my changes stick.08:29
cozoh good08:29
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CaptainMorgan!vmplayer08:29
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, CaptainMorgan08:29
CaptainMorgan!emulate08:29
ubotuCaptainMorgan: I don't know, could you explain it?08:29
cozme too i should have picked tat08:29
cozthat08:29
liablesignbarn: why are you doing that in the first place?08:30
CaptainMorgan!emulator08:30
ubotuCaptainMorgan: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:30
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CaptainMorgan!virtual08:30
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, CaptainMorgan08:30
signbarni'm having trouble with lirc for my mythtv box08:30
cafuegoCaptainMorgan: You need to install & configure vmware player first.08:30
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CaptainMorganinstalled it.. but how do I configure it ?08:30
signbarni have to link /dev/lirc0 to /dev/lirc and change the permissions of /dev/lircd so that i don't have to be an admin to run it08:30
cafuegoSpamming the bot with random commands isn't going to help.08:30
CaptainMorganIve tried running it and nothing happens08:30
cozanyone here insto animation08:30
cozinto08:30
cafuegoCaptainMorgan: Did you read the documentation that came with the download?08:31
cafuegoCaptainMorgan: ... did you also download a vm definition?08:31
CaptainMorganyou call it spamming, I call it searching for legitimate info08:31
CaptainMorganvm definition?08:31
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cafuegoCaptainMorgan: You need to have a fully configured vm otherwise the player is useless.08:32
nyktovusi just installed ubuntu server08:32
GURThttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6875 if i want to use Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-686 as my default would i set default=4 ?08:32
nyktovushow can i look at what packages are already installed08:32
rabeldableanyone know where to listen to satelite radio on the web? like a stream?08:32
nyktovusin synaptic you can see whats installed and what the next available upgrade is.. can you do this from command line?08:32
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cafuegoGURT: Is it number 5 in the listing?08:32
ubuntuis there any hack to setting my mounted drives to be shared on the network from a LIVE DVD ? going to plain share everything is REDed ou, presumable because i'm on live dvd?08:32
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signbarnis there any startup script that i can edit that runs with admin/superuser privelidges?08:33
crimsunnyktovus: apt-cache policy08:33
lillpellenyktovus: dpkg -l | grep ^ii may work08:33
nyktovusapt-cache policy?08:33
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GURTi think so, but i'm not sure08:33
CaptainMorgancafuego, ther is no docs that came with it... config files? - then yes, but I can't make sense of them.. there's no directions..08:33
nyktovuswhen i do a dpkg -l it makes a huge list that scrolls off the screen.. how can i view this one page at a time?08:33
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cafuegonyktovus: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | less08:34
lillpellenyktovus: pipe it with less08:34
GURTits the 5th one on the page, but 2 or three look different08:34
nyktovustight08:34
nyktovusthanx08:34
nyktovuswhats grep ^ii do?08:34
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odatshadowplay  then its over we win lol08:35
cafuegoGURT: Looks to be the fourth definition, so it would be 'default=3' (Linux start counting with 0)08:35
lillpelleit grabs all lines that start with "ii"08:35
lillpellenyktovus: try man grep and you will find out some more about regexps08:35
nyktovuskool08:35
nyktovusthanx08:35
nyktovusi'm building a cheap NAS box. heheh08:35
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nyktovusso i wanna put samba, netatalk, proftpd and httpd on it08:35
GURTcafuego: thanks08:36
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wckdkl0wncan someone tell me how to burn an iso to a dvd ?08:36
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cafuegowckdkl0wn: right click it, select 'Burn ...'08:36
starscallingwckdkl0wn, how nice do you want the experience to be08:36
batmancoz, do you happen do know anything about codecs for dvd players?08:36
starscallingpersonally i prefer k3b for that particular task08:37
CaptainMorganwhat is there to configure with vmware??? it's said to be 'pre-built' and I can't find diddly squat concerning 'readme', 'install' or 'configure' files.. this thing is junk08:37
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jack|ass!ipmasq08:37
ubotujack|ass: I don't know08:37
jack|assaww08:37
nyktovusdoes ubuntu server have any of those preinstalled?08:37
jack|assso i'm trying to set up masquerading08:37
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wckdkl0wnso just right click it and burn and thats it?08:37
jack|assdo i need to have two physical adapters?08:37
nyktovusdoes ubuntu server have samba?08:37
jack|assor can i use a single with a virtual?08:37
cafuegoCaptainMorgan: vmware player does just that, it "plays" virtual machines. You cannot create any new ones. So you'll also need a pre-built virtual machine.08:37
cafuegonyktovus: If you did a server install, you have just the base. No services.08:38
nyktovuscrap08:38
nyktovuswhats samba called?08:38
nyktovusthe pacakge..08:38
cafuegonyktovus: 'sudo apt-get install samba'08:38
wckdkl0wnhrmm this is weird i downloaded an iso of a linux distro and it got to 100% and now its going backwards its at -97% and going down08:38
slyslickanyone in here know how to solve this problem. I'm using breezy badger live cd and everytime i boot i have to setup my wireless card but if i leave the pc for 5 minutes and the screensaver comes on, the wireless connection drops and i have to reboot which takes a very long08:39
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wckdkl0wnnow it says its done and i right click on it on the desktop and go to properties and the file dissapeared08:39
slyslickim using a netgear wg31108:39
slyslickv208:39
wckdkl0wnwtf is up with that08:39
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Zenyou know, it's kinda funny to think that this OS would be compatible with a 38608:40
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Zenit would take like a week to boot, but it would run08:40
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batmandoes anyone here know about configuring codecs for a dvd player08:43
Zenyou need the css library I think it is called08:43
sudharshlibdvdcss to be exact08:43
wckdkl0wnnow hopefully it is extracting the iso to the dvd and not putting the iso on the dvd lol08:43
wckdkl0wni miss nero08:44
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sudharshthers nero for linux08:44
Zennero makes a linux version08:44
Myrttithen use it08:44
wckdkl0wnreally?08:44
wckdkl0wnlol08:44
Myrttiyes08:44
narlesanyone who has ourtunes... have you found that it runs very choppy on linux??08:44
ZenIndeed, sir08:44
sudharshif u hav a valid Windows ver u need not buy it again08:44
limguohong91I have install WINE, but may I know where is that program located?08:44
narleshow do i fix ourtunes so that it runs smooth..?08:44
narlesi'm opening it with java -jar08:45
sudharshlimguohong look in usr/bin08:45
limguohong91Alright :)08:45
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wckdkl0wnrpm or deb  nero install?08:46
sudharshboth mate08:46
MyrttiI'd say deb for Ubuntu08:46
CaptainMorgan"What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your runningkernel? "08:46
CaptainMorganI haven't a clue...08:46
CaptainMorganit offered /usr/src/linux/include but it won't accept it..08:47
wckdkl0wnok now how do i install nero?08:47
sudharshi dunno maybe check /include08:47
liableCaptainMorgan: /usr/src/kernel-headers08:47
sudharshu hav to go to the official site and download em08:47
liableCaptainMorgan: you need to install them..08:47
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wckdkl0wni downloaded it08:48
AMCDeathKnightHow do I get Ubuntu to remember my command history even when I have closed the terminal08:48
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sudharshwhats the fromat deb or rpm08:48
wckdkl0wndeb08:48
batmandoes anyone here know about configuring codecs for a dvd player08:48
Myrttibatman: yeah, install vlc and use it08:48
sudharshsudo dpkg -i <name of the pck>08:48
liablebatman: you dont need to "configure" them, just install em08:49
wckdkl0wnits on the desktop does that matter?08:49
sudharshit doesnt08:49
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wckdkl0wnk08:49
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liableCaptainMorgan: once installed, you might not even have to supply a dir.08:49
jack|assanyone have IPMASQ expertise?08:49
kestasworkacccan you export a table from OO.o base into excel? I'm making a software inventory at work but I'll need to export it into MS products eventually08:50
AMCDeathKnightHow do I remove cedega?08:50
kestasworkaccthough I don't have a copy of access handy08:50
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kestasworkaccAMCDeathKnight: depends how you added it08:50
sudharshsudo dpkg -r cedega08:50
limguohong91After I install Wine, may I know how do I even start it?08:50
AMCDeathKnightManuelly08:50
wckdkl0wnsays error while processing nerolinux08:50
AMCDeathKnightfrom a tar fike08:50
AMCDeathKnight*file08:51
sudharshwhat errors does it give08:51
AMCDeathKnightdpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove cedega which isn't installed.08:51
wckdkl0wncan i pm u08:51
liablejack|ass: what are you wanting to do?08:51
wckdkl0wni will post the eror there08:51
sudharshalrito08:51
batmanlaible, where can i find codecs?08:51
liable!w32codecs08:52
ubotusomebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install08:52
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UncleDsudharsh: how can i fix this: invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/mysql not found.08:52
jawshoewahwhere are ttf fonts located?08:52
jack|assliable: i've got a lan with a couple workstations and a dsl line.  I want to use the linux machine to give out private IP addresses that get NAT'd through the linux machine which has a public ip address.08:52
kestasworkacccan you copy a database in OO.o into a MSSQL database maybe?08:52
kestasworkaccanyone got any ideas?08:52
kestasworkaccgetting a table or 5 from OO.o to an MS product?08:53
jack|assliable:  i'm not really sure how to set up the NAT though.  IPMASQ didn't really like any of my attempts at telling it to route packets. :)08:53
liablejack|ass: http://www.shorewall.net/two-interface.htm08:53
crimsunUncleD: you need to install mysql-server08:53
liablejack|ass: have a read of that, its a nice easily configurabe NAT/firewall package08:53
jack|assliable: does IPMASQ require two physical?  or can i use one real aliased to a virtual?08:53
sudharshyes.....08:53
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jawshoewahwhere are ttf fonts located?08:54
liablejack|ass: i think you need two ifaces.08:54
UncleDcrimsun: how can I reinstall it properly? I tried apt-get remove and apt-get install, and it gives me the same error.08:54
jack|assliable: dammit, wish i'd known that before i'd dropped off the computer. :)08:54
kestasworkacc.. because I have a sneaking suspicion MS Access won't import OpenDatabase files08:54
liablejack|ass: easy to put another in :)08:54
jack|assliable: although why wouldn't you be able to use a real and a virtual?08:54
crimsunjawshoewah: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/, /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d/, /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/, [..] 08:55
CaptainMorgan!headers08:55
ubotuCaptainMorgan: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:55
jack|assliable: yeah, but it's a 30 minute drive over a nasty stretch of highway. :)08:55
sudharshUncleD did u use synaptic to install synaptic08:55
CaptainMorgan!kernel-headers08:55
ubotuCaptainMorgan: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:55
liablejack|ass: i have never tried it, so i am not positive.08:55
sudharsh*mysql08:55
kestasworkaccand Base doesn't seem to export even to excel files, or even comma seperated value files for christs sake08:55
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jawshoewahcrimsun you are so very helpful always your nice ;)08:55
kestasworkaccare they /trying/ to minimise their market share?08:55
batmananyone know of a good program i can download music?08:55
sudharshbatman: like p2p?08:56
batmansudharsh, yes other than amule08:56
liableCaptainMorgan: apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)08:56
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crimsuns/kernel-headers/linux-headers/08:57
sudharshfrostwire08:57
allison_1984batman: nicotine08:57
CaptainMorganthanks liable  , but E: Couldn't find package kernel-headers-2.6.12-10-38608:57
CaptainMorganrepo's ?08:58
liableCaptainMorgan: see crimsun 's comment08:58
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CaptainMorganwhere ?08:58
liableerrr, 7 lines up?08:58
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CaptainMorganuhm.. what do I do with s/kernel-headers/linux-headers/08:59
Pygirepos? :P08:59
Pygiinstall it, well :P08:59
liableCaptainMorgan: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)08:59
Pygiliable: just use synaptic09:01
jawshoewahmplayer gives an error New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supplky the font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)09:01
jawshoewah?09:02
Zenso, when is the next kernel image due?09:02
sudharshjawshoewah: rename the .mplayer folder <dont del it> and try again09:02
liablePygi: you tell him to fix it your way, and i'll tell him mine :P09:02
Zenseems we've been on 1.6.12-10 forever :)09:02
sudharshcheck out kernel.org09:02
jawshoewahshould I just search for it09:02
jawshoewahkernel.org?09:03
sudharshZen..check out kernel.org latest is 2..6.1509:03
jawshoewahoh09:03
Pygiliable: well, apt get is surely better but don't you think that he should use synaptic when he doesn't know apt-get :P09:03
sudharshthats the home page for the linux kernel09:03
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jawshoewahsearch doesnt find the .mplayer folder09:04
liablePygi: sure, whatever. as long as it gets done..09:04
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jack|assliable: thanks, i think i'll check out Shorewall next time i'm up there.09:04
sudharshjawshoewah: else try this in the home folder09:05
liablejack|ass: yw09:05
sudharshcp .mplayer .mplayer-backup09:05
sudharshand then start mplayer09:05
jawshoewahsudo?09:05
sudharshnot needed09:05
Zensudharsh: is it hard to upgrade manually?09:06
sudharshu r meddling in ur home..dats why09:06
sudharshZen: upgrade what09:06
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jawshoewahsats command not found09:06
Pygiliable: agrees09:06
sudharshcp shoud exist09:06
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jawshoewahoh i translated cp as command promt09:07
Blippebatman: bittornado09:07
jawshoewahlol09:07
sudharshZen: when u install a new kernel....09:07
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sudharsh....u hav actually 2 os to boot into09:07
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jawshoewahdid that restarted same error09:07
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sudharshoh and delete the .mplayer09:08
sudharshrm -f .mplayer09:08
jawshoewahjust rm .mplayer09:08
sudharshrm -f .mplayer * -R09:08
LemLapLinhow do i reload fstab?09:08
kestasworkacchold on09:08
sudharshrm -f .mplayer/* -R09:08
kestasworkaccI hope he didnt run that first one sudharsh09:09
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CaptainMorganok, I have vmware installed... now how do I run it to test a Win app? I navigated to some apps in mounted Win.. but nothing happened..09:09
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jawshoewahthat tried to delet all my m4a files!09:09
sudharshooooooooopsssss.09:09
sudharshvery sorry09:09
Pygisudharsh: advices, advices :P09:10
kestasworkaccalias rm='rm -i' saves the day09:10
sudharshhas the damage been done???????09:10
iKernelCaptainMorgan: You gotta install windows using vmware first09:10
jadamserm09:10
jadamsso making migrate add a table called "references" bombs out09:10
jawshoewahi dont know it says permission denied09:10
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jadamsif I change the table name to "reference" it's ok09:10
jadamsoh gawd09:10
jadamswrong chan, sorry09:10
CaptainMorganiKernel, i installed it in Linux, now I have to install it in win ??? can you clarify please ?09:10
sudharshcheck just check in the home folder and see for it09:10
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elshaahi09:11
sudharshsorry....jawshoewah09:11
LemLapLinwhy do files i copy from an ntfs partition have a padlock on them?09:11
iKernelCaptainMorgan: No, I'm saying you have to install windows on vmware. Vmware is a product for running a full blown os virtually.09:11
jawshoewahit's ok  have a backup of all my files..im not sure they are deleted checking now09:11
sudharshLemLapLin u gotta change the permissions09:11
odatLemLapLin, right click on the file go to properties and change the permissions09:12
LemLapLinpermissions are fine as far as i can see09:12
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iKernelCaptainMorgan: Rtm.09:12
jawshoewahit's all there09:12
sudharshthen cheange it 2 writable09:12
sudharsh:P09:12
LemLapLinah ok09:12
GauntletWizardIs there any way to get a root terminal off the livecd?09:12
sudharshjawshoewah..09:12
LemLapLindon't actually want to write it so that's all good09:12
jawshoewahyes09:12
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LemLapLinntfs writing is experimental yes?09:12
iKernelGauntleWizard: sudo -s09:12
sudharshgo to Places > Home09:12
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jawshoewahok09:13
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sudharshand press 'Ctrl + H'09:13
johnjohnsorry to barge in... how do i know what my 192.168.... addy is ?09:13
CaptainMorganif people read manuals there'd be no support channels :))09:13
jawshoewahahhh09:13
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iKernelGauntleWizard: Vmware WorkStation 5 manual: http://www.vmware.com/support/ws55/doc/index.html09:13
jawshoewahthat displays hidden09:13
GauntletWizardahh. Annoying, but I can see why it's that way09:13
sudharshit will show u the hidden files09:13
jawshoewahbackup??09:14
sudharshif a file or folder starts with . it will be gidden09:14
sudharsh*hidden09:14
jawshoewahi learned that from dsl09:14
sudharshdelete .mplayer09:14
jawshoewahdidnt know shortcut though09:14
CaptainMorgank, how do I install windows on vmplayer ?09:14
sudharshme 2 jus learned it last week :D09:14
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johnjohni just got a stupid voip router and it don't show the local dhcp adresses.09:14
jawshoewahsame error09:14
iKernelCaptainMorgan: Ah right, vmplayer.09:14
ubuntuany idead on how to mount my windows drive while running ubuntu live... no starter guide tells me how..09:14
ejofeedapper will use xorg 6.9 or xorg 7.0?09:15
iKernelCaptainMorgan: There's a guide to it somewhere...09:15
sudharsheven after deleeting .mplayer09:15
sudharsh?09:15
jawshoewahyes09:15
elshaaI'm not root on my machine, and I can't change the screen resolution through the "system"->"administration"->"screen resolution" (french translation) I have no choice but 640x480. But I remember a teacher tells us a command to enlarge the screen resolution. any idea ?09:15
iKernelCaptainMorgan: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-84275.html09:15
johnjohni am trying to open port 5900 for vncserver09:15
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jawshoewahelsha i had that problem too09:15
johnjohnbut i need to know my ip09:15
jawshoewahits an easy fix09:15
CaptainMorgansee, you said vmware... what the firgs the diff between a ware and a player? now I forget which I installe...09:15
iKerneljohnjohn: ifconfig09:15
jawshoewahit's yuour xorg.conf file settings09:16
ubuntusudo -s -H09:16
johnjohnthank you ikernel... i was doing ipconfig09:16
sudharshk check what ur xorg.conf says09:16
ubuntuah wrong channel :D09:16
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odatvagegast linux?09:16
odatlol09:16
jawshoewahsudharsh me>?09:16
elshaajawshoewah: I know, but since I'm not root on the machine, I can't change it09:16
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sudharshjawshoewah: sry try reinstalling mplayer09:17
iKernelCaptainMorgan: Vmplayer == Free. Vmware Work Station == Expensive.09:17
sudharshtry sudo..elshaa09:17
GauntletWizardhow do I mount my real hard drive for read/write access?09:17
johnjohnis edubuntu available in spanish?09:18
iKernelGauntletWizard: #vmware09:18
sudharshGauntletWizard: change the permissions in fstab09:18
CaptainMorganthis is too much work...09:18
elshaasudharsh: I can't. It's a machine at the univ, and I can't get root perms09:18
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iKernelCaptainMorgan: Whinge, whinge, whinge. You'll have to do this. I did.09:18
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CaptainMorganwhinge ?09:19
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sudharshoh ok...check 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf'09:19
CaptainMorganwhat's whinge ?09:19
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CaptainMorganactually, no I don't :) in the amount of time Ive attempted this I could've rebooted to Win 30 times09:19
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MiyomeiCan I have one monitor running off of an AGP card and one running off of onboard video?09:19
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iKernelCaptainMorgan: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-84275.html09:19
Xnoshi...09:20
iKernelread the instructions. This is farily simple09:20
Xnosikernel09:20
sudharshMiyomei set the onboard video in BIOS to on09:20
MiyomeiHrm. What if I'm locked out of the BIOS?09:20
elshaasudharsh: all the display dubsection have 1280x1024 to 640x48009:20
MiyomeiIt's an old school Dell PC, so it's passworded.09:21
CaptainMorgan'read the instructions' don't not constitute adequate time leftover..09:21
Xnoscan you help me... with a issue on nautilus?09:21
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CaptainMorganpoint - too much wasted time09:21
iKernelXnos: Maybe...09:21
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s_spiffjust got my 5 cd set of ubuntu ! by mail!09:21
sudharshelshaa....check if ur montor is getting detecte dproperly09:21
iKernelXnos: It's a rather easy to use program...09:21
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Xnosok... is that nautilus dont refresh the cd09:21
Xnosi eject this09:22
sudharshMiyomei: thats the only way u can do it09:22
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iKernelXnos: Don't worry about it.09:22
MiyomeiI see.09:22
iKernelWhoa lag XD09:22
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sudharshu gotta tell the bios u r not gonna use the agp card09:22
Xnosand when insert another one... this still say music cd09:22
iKernelXnos: View --> Reload09:22
MiyomeiHow can I get ubuntu to recognize my ntfs drive and files?09:22
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sudharshMiyomei check out fstab09:22
Miyomeifstab? Where?09:23
Xnosbut this open sound jiucer09:23
iKernelMiyomei: /etc/fstab09:23
MiyomeiKeep in mind, I JUST switch to Ubuntu from WinXP today.09:23
sudharshits in etc09:23
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MiyomeiAh, okay.09:23
sudharshdoesnt matter09:23
Xnosbut this open sound juicer... i09:23
s_spiffMiyomei, do check out the wikim its given over there09:23
sudharshwhatcha get09:23
Xnosand this is not a music cd09:23
iKernelMiyomei: Then you should spend some time reading the manual.09:23
odatMiyomei, you would have been better off just starting fresh09:24
sudharshodat :O09:24
MiyomeiI did start fresh. It's a new drive and all.09:24
s_spiffhey is there a way, by which i can have the x-irc client start flashin in the task pane, everytime my name is mentioned?09:24
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odati totally wiped everything and said bye windows i've hated you long enough lol09:24
s_spiff nice one odat .09:24
MiyomeiWell, I may do that once I get my files. ;p09:24
sudharshMiyomei rmber ntfs in linux is experimental09:25
odathowever i was a mac freak for years and years before i used windows for a couple of monts sooo i already hated it lol09:25
s_spiffnever tried mac09:25
sudharshtoo bad we dont macs over here09:25
liablehah, that pretty much sums up mac users :)09:25
sudharshtoo pricey09:25
s_spiffquite expensive in india09:25
s_spiff sudarsh we do have macs...but very expensive09:25
revmoocan someone please help me with dual displays? i have an nvidia dualhead card and I have gotten it to where i can see the same desktop on both screens but i want to be able to use the other screen as a seperate desktop, when i used a different xorg.conf, I got two seperate desktops but no way to get the mouse to the second display(it was like a completely seperate copy of the gnome desktop) anyone know how to fix this stuff?09:25
sudharshtell me bout it..09:25
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odats_spiff, mac os x is now unix and / or bsd with one hell of a GUI on top09:26
CaptainMorgantime is a commodity09:26
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odats_spiff, its guts are open source09:26
CaptainMorganunless you don't work :)09:26
sudharshsudharsh is from Chennai09:26
john_anyone running vnc?  i need to see if someone can get to a password screen on my pc09:26
s_spiffhmm.. mumbai here09:26
iKerneljohn_: Remember to let port tcp 5900 through your firewall and router.09:27
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john_ooo it's ok..... I can remote desktop into the kids xp box09:27
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john_and run vnc from there to me09:27
john_thanks ikernel... yes i did that09:27
sudharshtiny vnc works well09:28
john_this whole installation under linux is mindboggling09:28
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john_ahhhh the good old setup.exe09:28
victor3dhi there i need help with ubuntu09:28
odatk09:28
sudharshjohn_ : oh well what will ya do if u lose ur driver discs09:28
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iKerneljohn_: ok09:28
iKerneljohn_: I won't09:29
Insidiousvictor3d: that's what this channel is here for :)09:29
s_spiff hey in ubuntu, there is nothing like a slide show of images stored in a folder?09:29
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sudharshthats possible in kde09:30
s_spiffa slide show>?09:30
sudharshu hav to build a gallery or somethin....forgot though09:30
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sudharshgee...i dont remember..09:30
s_spiffachha will check it out09:30
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sudharshbut havin a faint memory of doin it09:30
iKernelI'm not at all impressed. Ubuntu breezy doesn't come with make.09:30
s_spiff sudharsh , u know whats DC++ na?09:30
Beleys Poy09:31
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sudharshnope09:31
s_spiffumm ok09:31
s_spiff anyone here can help me with joining online DC++ hubs?09:31
crimsuniKernel: you mean you didn't install 'build-essential', rather. A desktop distro doesn't need compilation tools installed by default.09:31
s_spiff! DC++09:31
ubotus_spiff: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about09:31
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s_spiff! oDC09:31
ubotus_spiff: I give up, what is it?09:31
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s_spiffdamn!09:31
sudharshhav any1 installed the latest vanilla kernel here09:32
sudharsh2.6.1509:32
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s_spiffhey anyone knows how to config a pppoe, as in i wanna add ip add's...09:33
odatgnome rocks!09:33
s_spiffand ertra gateways09:33
sudharshu gotta add em in resolv.conf09:33
iKernelcrimsun: Ah.09:33
iKernelcrimsun: ok09:34
iKernelcrimsun: Once dpkg has finished installing make, I'll install build-essential.09:34
s_spiffwhere is it located sudharsh ?09:34
s_spiffhold on i'll check it out09:34
sudharshetc09:34
fekmoin09:34
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Pygicrimsun: it should have development tools installed by default :P09:37
crimsunPygi: it's not my decision, and I don't necessarily agree09:38
s_spiffbrb09:38
Pygicrimsun: yes, yes, I know09:38
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john_woah...  all these windows in linux is freaking me out09:38
sudharshjohn_ what windows09:39
Pygiwell, use shell09:39
iKernelsudharsh: Different GUI apps09:39
john_xchat,,, terminal..... filebrowser... firefox09:39
sudharshdistribute along the workplaces09:39
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sudharshu know terminals in one desktop,09:40
john_ahhh09:40
sudharsh:)09:40
iKerneljohn_: I have two xchat windows, one firefox windows, one game windows, 3 file browser windows and one terminal window. there are two tabs in the terminal window.09:40
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sudharshme have 5 terminals......3 firefox windows 1 xchar 2 synaptic09:40
bodanyone got a dlink dwl650+ ?  acx100...   no workee under 5.1009:41
iKernelsudharsh: Why have 5 terminal *windows* open? use tabs.09:41
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john_i get it.... i just right click on the taskbar and say move to another workspace09:41
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sudharshsay..i didnt think bout that....lol09:41
zdux0012could I ask someone for help installing mythtv on ubento ?09:42
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segreteriarcimola@libero.it09:42
sudharshzdux0012 yup whats the prob u r havin09:42
zdux0012Thanks! I was following the directions I found here: http://www.quietglow.com/docs/ubuntumythtv.html09:42
zdux0012until I got to a command "make" I recieved an error message: "*** [all]  Error 2"09:44
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zdux0012 *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.09:44
sudharshaahh u need to install the kernel sources09:44
zdux0012sorry I am a linux newbie09:44
zdux0012I did enter a command: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-38609:45
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sudharshwhat did it say09:45
liableerr, headers hould do..09:45
zdux0012but perhaps 386 is wrong for this computer? It is a pentium 409:45
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sudharshnaaa....got em for my amd athlon-xp09:46
sudharshdoesnt matter09:46
liablezdux0012: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)09:46
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zdux0012should I type that exactly as you wrote it or change "uname -r" to something else?09:46
liableexactly09:47
liablewith sudo..09:47
zdux0012ok I'll try it  thanks09:47
heewaThis may be a stupid question, but if I download a cd image, can I burn it onto a dvd? (I only have blank dvds and I want to install ubuntu now!)09:47
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liablestupid sudo..09:47
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jawshoewahis there gnu equivalent to flash or dreamweaver?09:47
Pygiheewa: sure u can...09:47
Pygijaws: fl4 if I am not mistaken or somethin' like that09:47
john_ikernel... did you say you can try to vnc to me?09:47
iKerneljohn_: I tried, but it wouldn't work.09:48
john_you know my ip?>09:48
sudharshjawshoewah tried installing in wine09:48
iKerneljohn_: Yeah, it's plainly obvious.09:48
ompaulliable, was that not >>sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) << :)09:48
liablemake sure 5900 is forwarded..09:48
john_5900 is forwarded09:48
jawshoewahi dont have the progs09:48
iKernel(n=john@216.187.78.173.novuscom.net): john09:48
liableompaul: see my next comment :)09:48
john_doh!09:49
jawshoewahlooking for an alternative09:49
zdux0012I did it (with sudo) it installed,, I'll try make now ...09:49
ompaulliable, I saw them all :-)09:49
iKerneljohn_: Forwarded to YOU'RE computer, right?09:49
sudharshtheres synfig09:49
iKernelyour*09:49
jawshoewahsynfig?09:49
john_yes.. my 192.168.xx.x09:49
sudharshfor vector animations, screem fo09:49
sudharshanalogous to dreamweaver09:49
iKerneljohn_: That's not what you actually put in, is it?09:49
john_no09:49
iKernelgood09:49
zdux0012thanks!! it is working,09:49
john_192.168.15.709:50
jawshoewahwhat about for making swf files?09:50
sudharshdunno09:50
john_i aint too sure about my vnc install09:50
john_i just right clicked a perl file and said Run09:50
iKerneljawshoewah: There's a thing called vnc2swf...09:50
heewajawshoewah: no, I don't think there's a content creation tool for linux at all09:50
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heewaor, maybe there is!09:50
iKernelheewa: They're going to make a linux version of flash.09:51
jawshoewahis because swf is copywritten like mp3 and dvd?09:51
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heewaiKernel: I thought they said they wouldn't do that! That'd be great if they did.09:52
liablejohn_: just install vncserver and run it... whats the problem?09:53
john_i am new to ubuntu.... day209:53
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john_terminal server client is no problem... i am running it to log into my kids xp box09:54
liablejohn_: thats ok, just run vncserver. it asks you for a password, and voila09:54
ozgurgerillais ubuntu more professional then debian?09:54
sudharshalrito me off09:54
john_the only way i "think" i can get vncserver to run is to right click a vncserver file (perl) and say "run"09:55
liablehah, define professional..09:55
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liablejohn_: no. type vncserver in a term..09:55
odatanyone into gdesklets?09:55
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john_k09:55
iKernelheewa: Adobe has aquried macromedia.09:56
odatreally>?09:56
iKernelYeah.09:56
john_command not found09:56
Myrttiold news ;-)09:56
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liablejohn_: then install it.. :)09:56
iKernelMyrtti: Indeed it is.09:56
heewaI didn't get the feeling that Adobe cared about the Linux userbase up to now.09:57
john_:(09:57
liablejohn_: not sad... happy..09:58
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odatlinux is hard to ignore anymore09:58
rawler__heya ppl.. I recently install dapper, it has more or less worked like a charm..09:58
liabledpends if you read slashdot or buy computer mags..09:58
heewaodat: for some markets, it's really not that hard. Photoshop (and Illustrator even more) being a prime example.09:58
rawler__however, right now it fails on init, failing to start networking..09:58
liablejohn_: really, its easy..09:59
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odatheewa, ahhh but this is why Apple is so important and such good friends to have now09:59
jawshoewahcant find synfig on synaptic09:59
odatheewa, since the guts of os x are unix ish and open source09:59
rawler__the only interface defined as auto is loopback, and indeed, when I reboot with init=/bin/bash, "ifup lo" gives me the same beaviour.. it just freezes and waits..10:00
john_i'm sure it is.  i downloaded a .deb file10:00
rawler__any ideas, someone?10:00
jawshoewahhmmm10:00
liablejohn_: use apt-get/synaptic..10:00
odatlinux will benefit from Apple's software and vice a verca10:00
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ompaulrawler__, well it is a development operating system it will break and be  fixed many times from now until april 20 when it is declared stable and released10:00
startu_netcharming new years wish: http://purl.oclc.org/NET/NewYear-2005-text10:00
jawshoewahsynfig is on apt get?10:00
john_did a sudo dpkg -i vnc*.deb10:01
heewaodat: That helps, but OS X applications are written in obj-c. Not so for Linux. That's a big one right there. Pile on that they'd have to teach their development staff something like GTK, and the licensing issues that come up, and it's enough to scare away upper management.10:01
liablejohn_: no, sudo apt-get install vncserver10:01
rawler__ompaul: absolutely.. I completely aware of that.. :) however, right now I need a solution to get my laptop back up running.. any ideas?10:01
john_in the directory where the vncserver is?10:01
heewa(well, you could write it in obj-c in linux, but it's not the norm)10:01
ompaulrawler__, how much ram have you got, or have you a second machine?10:02
liablejohn_: yes, it doesnt matter..10:02
odatheewa, but steve jobs is a visionary he knows its best to be buddies with open source than to be enemies10:02
iKernelgcc gonna take a while to compile..10:02
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liablecompile gcc??10:02
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rawler__ompaul: actually, not sure of how much ram on that machine, but I do got an extra machine.. why?10:02
iKernelliable: Yeah, I need gcc-3.4.5.10:02
liableiKernel: why?10:03
iKernelliable: Vmware10:03
liableiKernel: why?10:03
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godzzoHi10:03
jawshoewahcant find synfig on synaptic10:04
iKernelliable: My kernel was compiled with gcc-3.4.510:04
heewaodat: Steve Jobs isn't associated with Adobe. And, you don't have to be enemies to ignore.10:04
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liableiKernel: gcc -v?10:04
john_Package vncserver is not available, but is referred to by another package.10:04
john_This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or10:04
john_is only available from another source10:04
john_E: Package vncserver has no installation candidate10:04
rawler__ompaul: 512 mb ram, btw10:04
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ompaulrawler__, well if there is enough ram you can use it build a new install disk when the next one is built, in the mean time have a look at this >> http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/dapper-changes << when they have changed what you want you can go forward there I wonder if you can chroot with a live breezy CD and do an update for the pool on your machine those are my only thoughts other than put breezy on it after backing up using10:04
ompaul a live cd over wire for speed and stability10:04
liablejohn_: sudo apt-cache search vnc10:04
ilba7rjohn_, use the paste bin10:05
odatheewa, true but adobe didn't forget that steve jobs created their market10:05
iKernelliable: 4.0.2. I haven't run into any issues that I need help with yet.10:05
liablejohn_: paste the results in #flood10:05
iKernelsorry for the bold... :S10:05
ilba7r!tell john_  about pastebin10:05
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liableiKernel: but i bet you have 3.4 installed.. dpkg -l |grep gcc10:05
rawler__ompaul: I can run a dist-upgrade on it..10:05
rawler__rawler__: I just have to init directly into a shell and manually kick up networking..10:06
iKernelliable: Nope. :)10:06
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ompaulrawler__, there is that, see you had a solution all along :-)10:06
heewaodat: It just seems so far removed. It's seems like it isn't necessarily bad for them to create a Linux client, but I just don't see enough incentive or enough of a market for it.10:06
heewaodat: How many Linux users do you really think would *buy* it?10:07
odatheewa, maybe not yet10:07
liableiKernel: so install it! :)10:07
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iKernelliable: But I am.10:07
rawler__ompaul: well, yes.. I were mostly looking for info, if someone else have seen the problem, if there were a proposed hotfix or similar.. (found no bugs in bugzilla, and nothing in the forums)10:07
liableiKernel: meh.. :P10:08
heewaodat: It sounds odd, but I'd really like to see more commercial software on the Linux desktop.10:08
iKernelliable: I'm not a complete and absouloute linux rookie :)))10:08
odatheewa, first commercial software for linux should be games10:08
ompaulrawler__, well forums is not as close to the devs as http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel10:08
john_vnc-common - Virtual network computing server software10:08
liableiKernel: i realise this, i just dont understand why you would compile gcc10:08
liablejohn_: you want a server10:09
iKernelliable: Because I can't find gcc-3.4.5 in the repos.10:09
john_xvncviewer - Virtual network computing client software for X10:09
john_yes... a server10:09
heewaodat: It seems like that, at least, is slowly happening.10:09
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liablejohn_: /j #liable for a sec10:10
odatheewa, i believe ubuntu and of course gnome will be the desktop linux of choice by far    gnome especially because of liscensing10:10
iKerneljohn_: vnc4server, vncserver, tightvncserver... they are servers. xvncviewer is merely a viewer.10:10
rawler__ompaul: oh, that's a good idea of course.. :) I'll check the recent archives.. :)10:11
odatheewa, i have found with the people i have converted to linux that they find gnome easier10:11
heewaodat: Seems like a lot of people are drawn to KDE lately. Gnome has a bit of an image problem right now.10:11
ompaulrawler__, I aim to please, sometimes I have to take time off for target practice :)10:11
jawshoewahcant find synfig on synaptic10:11
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odatheewa, ahhh but developers are really drawn to kde especially when it comes to commercial software because of liscensing  why pay to develope for a particular crowd when you could develop for that same crowd without paying10:12
iKerneljawshoewah: You know, there's such thing as a search engine. www.google.com10:12
odatare=are not10:12
iKerneljawshoewah: Ubuntu deb repos are not the only source for programs/libs and the rest.10:13
jawshoewahyeah i found the page everytime I click the dl link it crashes firefox...thought someone might know of an alternative\10:13
heewaodat: Gnome certainly has a more professional feel to it.10:13
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jawshoewahthanks for pointing out the obvious though ikernel10:13
ilba7rjawshoewah, do you have all repos enabled/10:13
ilba7r!repos10:13
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource10:13
jawshoewahilba yes I have binaries for uni and multi enabled for breezy10:14
odatheewa, i don't like how kde wants you to use all of their special programs   sorta like MS10:14
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heewaodat: I really don't like a lot about KDE. I don't even file like getting into it.10:15
odatheewa, lol that whole friggin thing feels like MS to me10:16
heewaYes! I completely agree.10:16
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odatheewa, just went to pick on them lol10:17
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iKerneljawshoewah: Try finding another download link.10:17
iKernelwaiting for something to finish compiling is so boring!10:18
odati'll be kicked out of kde room soon lol10:18
sudharshlol10:18
HendikinsTsk tsk :P10:18
jawshoewahthanks ikernel I did find one....I have had very little success makeing tarballs functional so i was hoping to find it easier somehow10:18
heewaaww, don't be mean. They're just doing things the way they think is best. I fully support that.10:18
iKerneljawshoewah: You have build-essential installed?10:18
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jawshoewahim not sure10:18
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iKerneljawshoewah: dpkg -l | grep build-essential10:19
odatheewa, yea true but to have someone be truthful even when it hurts can be a good thing10:19
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jawshoewahsudo?10:19
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heewaAlright, Ima go install Ubuntu. Hope this goes better than last try I gave it over summer.10:20
xoredi can mount a USB-stick, but iam failing on mounting a USB-drive. Somehow there is a sdb (sda is my SATA HDD) when i plug in a usb-stick, but there is no one with the drive. Can someone help ?10:20
rawler__ompaul: well, dug through the lists and found nothing of value.. :S10:20
ompaulheewa, got 5.10 ?10:20
zdux0012thanks for the help,, I am going to reboot10:20
HendikinsA different point of view is simply a result of seeing things in a different way to you. I do see some merit to the way KDE handles that, and I do like the integration, but that doesn't mean I disagree with other views on the matter.10:20
rawler__ompaul: the bug probably got introduced yesterday, and well, let's say I'm eagerly awaiting a fix.. ;)10:21
ompaulrawler__, my silly question of the day for you is why do you need dapper?10:21
heewaompaul: yea10:21
Hendikinskioslaves are particularly neat :)10:21
jawshoewahlaunch builessential?10:22
ompaulheewa, it is just it came out after the summer so you have the latest stable10:22
iKernel................when ya wake up in da morning and it's quarter to two........10:22
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ompauliKernel, am or pm :-)10:22
iKernelompaul: am of course. it's the morning, after all10:22
Hendikinsrawler__: Do you plan on doing Real Work[TM]  with the machine?10:22
chalcedonyproblem: when i reconnect to an IRC server, or my husband restarted his box, our Xchat changes it's user@  the host is produced as a random string of letters.. i don't want to look like a bot/ HELP ?10:22
sudharshmaybe someone is online with ur id10:23
jawshoewahhow do I launch build essintial?10:23
ompauliKernel, was I being funny? or just 12 hours later ...10:23
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sudharshwhy would u want o launch buildessential10:23
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ompauljawshoewah, you don't gcc is the main item in it, you install it with >> sudo apt-get install build-essential<<10:24
iKerneljawshoewah: you don't. build essential is a set of tools that are essential to build stuff from source (hence, build-essential)10:24
jawshoewahto help me make tarballs install10:24
sudharshthats not an app10:24
odatheewa, geez most of these guys are unaware of the liscense10:24
jawshoewahahh10:24
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ompauljawshoewah, what program has a tar ball that you want to install ?10:24
sudharshjawshoewah: if make works....fine10:24
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iKerneljawshoeway: extract the tarballs, cd into the directory they extracted to and type ./configure10:24
jawshoewahwell maybe I can build this synfigstudio now10:24
HendikinsThat actually brings me to something I've been wondering about. Does anyone here use Linux at work, for general office type duties?10:25
jawshoewahyeah make wasnt making10:25
iKerneljawshoewah: why not?10:25
sudharshoh that extract the tar balls first10:25
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chalcedonysudharsh maybe someone is online with ur id <<---- nick would go to the next in line, Hostname never.10:25
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jawshoewahi tried it on a couple unpacked tarball programs and nothing happened10:25
sudharshsry i didnt know that10:25
kemikuh.. my Applications menu is acting up.. when i click on it it's briefly displayed ( 1<second) then it just minimizes to a small pixel.. this doesnt happen to Places or System10:26
jawshoewahi had to go back and find what i wanted through synaptic10:26
sudharshtarballs are like zip files10:26
iKerneljawshoewah: a tarball isn't a program.10:26
jawshoewahinstead of web10:26
sudharshthey are not programs10:26
jawshoewahi realize its like zip10:26
ompauljawshoewah, what is the full extention of the file you are looking at ?10:26
chalcedonyHendikins: thousands of companies and millions of people use Linux for work applications, they are why Linux is so great.10:26
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iKerneljawshoewah: tarballs contain sources to build programs.10:26
POpenScrhey can you start ubuntu live with docache so you can take the cd out?10:26
sudharshu gotta extract it first10:26
jawshoewahsynfigstudio-0.61.01.tar.gz10:26
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sudharshtar -xvf synfig*10:26
iKerneltar -xvf synfigstudio-0.61.01.tar.gz10:27
jawshoewahi recognize that tar is a way of compressing files10:27
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s_spiffhey. someone help me with installing DC++ for linux10:27
raphaHi all!10:27
Hendikinschalcedony: I'm thinking more in a whip poll capacity. I use Linux at work because I provide my own computer gear. I actually don't know anyone else who uses it on the work desktop outside of software development.10:27
jawshoewahdoes the astrik work?10:27
rawler__ompaul: the reason is actually quite simple.. I could never get Breezy to use my bluetooth phone as a GPRS modem..10:27
s_spiff i tried the howto.. but gettin errors i cant figure out..10:27
rawler__ompaul: the reason is actually quite simple.. I could never get Breezy to use my bluetooth phone as a GPRS modem..10:27
sudharshatrik is an wildcard10:27
raphaWhat release is ShipIt currently shipping?10:27
POpenScriKernel: arn't your missing the z?10:27
rawler__damn arrow-keys..10:27
ompauljawshoewah, tar xvzf synfigstudio-0.61.01.tar.gz10:27
sudharshrapha 5.1010:27
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POpenScrxzvf10:27
iKernelPOpenScr: No.10:27
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s_spiff posted the rror here : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28378&highlight=dc10:28
raphasudharsh: Thanks! Any idea when shipping of 6.04 will begin?10:28
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jawshoewahhave to cd first guys10:28
rawler__Hendikins: Actually, I hope to get it usable ASAP.. I have a feeling my boss wouldn't like me to sit on my hands waiting.. ;)10:28
s_spiffsomeone help!!!10:28
sudharshApril10:28
ompaulrawler__, that seems reasonable10:28
raphasudharsh: Kay, thanks!10:28
ilba7r.10:28
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deFryskrapha, around 06.0410:28
raphadeFrysk: thanks :-)10:28
deFryskrapha, hence the version numbers10:28
iKerneljawshoewah: Of course you do. That is obvious obviously obvious thing that is obviously required (obviously).10:28
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Hendikinsrawler__: I'd personally see if it was possible to drop in replacement parts, rather than conversion to an unstable distro10:28
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rawler__ompaul: I think so.. A laptop is a LOT more versatile in combination with a cell-phone modem.. ;)10:29
raphadeFrysk: Yeah, that's pretty obvious. I was just wondering whether it would accept pre-orders.10:29
ompaulrapha, april 20th to be exact with the release name being 6.04 the 04 being the month and the 6 being the year10:29
rawler__and I need it for business.. :)10:29
iKerneljawshoewah: Of course you do. That is the most obvious obviously obvious thing that is obviously required (obviously).10:29
jawshoewahright but imagine me being totally rodent dependant and illiterate10:29
iKernelsorry, missed out "the most"10:29
raphaompaul: I know, I know :-)10:29
jawshoewahobvious10:29
trnqul1t1hi all10:29
ompaulrapha, so good you know it twice :)10:29
sudharshjawshoewah: do a ./configure10:29
jawshoewahi spell with phonics.....is there a repo for phonics?10:29
rawler__Hendikins: well, I tried.. but after a day of fiddling with package dependecies, various conflicts here and there, and not getting a bit closer to a working setup, I gave in and tried installing dapper..10:30
jawshoewahtranslater10:30
iKerneljawshoewah: don't you mean a debian pacakge?10:30
iKernelmaybe not...10:30
trnqul1t1does anyone know where the downloaded packages get saved? i need to update a system not online with packages from another system.. would appreciate ant help!10:30
ompauljawshoewah, it is a deb that does X from a repo10:30
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sophtpawhow do i change password for NickServ?10:31
iKerneltrnqul1t1: i don't know if they DO get saved...10:31
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sudharshchek the faq mate10:31
ompaulsophtpaw  /ns help  and read the results10:31
iKernel!gnu10:31
ubotuiKernel: I give up, what is it?10:31
iKernelyou gotta be kidding me!10:32
raphaompaul: thrice I think ... more people responded with how the version numbers work than whether ShipIt would accept pre-orders.10:32
jawshoewah$ sudo cd home/joshua/10:32
jawshoewahPassword:10:32
jawshoewahsudo: cd: command not found10:32
ompaul!gnu10:32
ubotumethinks gnu is gnu's not unix, see http://www.gnu.org10:32
trnqul1t1iKernel: hmm.. okies10:32
iKerneltrnqul1t1: but RTM10:32
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ozgurgerillaubunu is an african name right?10:33
ozgurgerillaubuntu*10:33
iKernelI thought I already told ubotu what gnu was...10:33
ompaulrapha, shipit is a mystery shrouded in magic and with a production system that is big and fast10:33
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ompaulrapha, however numbers go against them10:34
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ompaulozgurgerilla, it is10:34
trnqul1t1iKernel: thx10:34
iKernelozurgerilla: nope.10:34
iKernelozurgerilla: ubuntu is an african word...10:34
jawshoewahwow thats the first time a ./configure command has worked!10:35
ompaul!ubuntu10:35
ubotuI guess ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards.10:35
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rawler__Hendikins, ompaul: *ahh* splendid! Who needs loopback anyways? ;)10:35
sudharshjawshoewah ./configure isnt a command10:35
jawshoewahits the first time it has done anything10:35
sudharshits a script10:35
ozgurgerillathanks.10:35
sophtpawi'm using the commands given for /msg NickServ help and i keep getting 'no help'10:35
iKernelok ubotu, since you told (..?) to10:36
iKernel!awards10:36
ubotuawards is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks10:36
sudharshcheck the root of ur extracted tarball10:36
iKernelok, ubotu10:36
zdux0012what does ubuntu mean?10:36
sudharshthere will be a file called configure10:36
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ozgurgerilladoes anyone program ubuntu in here?10:36
iKernelzdux0012: Humanity to others.10:36
albackerwhat should i do ? http://pastebin.com/49899510:36
jawshoewahso ./configure than type make?10:36
ompaulHendikins, all development platforms break, it is not unstable it is dev - stable is breezy if people can't wait then they risk broken software - harsh but true10:36
iKernelsudharsh: A script, to be more precise.10:36
iKerneljawshoewah: yep10:37
jawshoewah;)10:37
iKerneljawshoewah: then type make install10:37
sophtpawzdux0012: "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "humanity to others". Ubuntu also means "I am what I am because of who we all are". The Ubuntu Linux distribution brings the spirit of Ubuntu to the software world.10:37
Hendikinsompaul: I run Mozilla CVS HEAD, have done so for several years. I know the caveats of such things.10:37
jawshoewahsays command not found?10:37
sudharshsudo make install10:37
sudharshu dont have make installed then10:37
ompaulzdux0012, scroll back a little ubotu told us all the meaning10:37
sudharshi mean automake10:37
odatwow this if fun10:37
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odatthese guys don';t know the pitfalls to kde10:38
jawshoewaharrrr apt-get | grep makeinstall?10:38
odatlol10:38
iKernelShould install with build-essential10:38
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iKerneljawshoewah: no10:38
iKerneljawshoewah: apt-get install build-essential10:38
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jawshoewahk10:38
chalcedonyis there something weird about ubuntu that would make Xchat change it's hostmask every time it connects???10:38
sudharshno works for me10:38
sophtpawanyone tell me how i can change or recover my password which i have forgotten (it seems)10:38
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zdux0012could I ask for more help (mythtv following directions at http://www.quietglow.com/docs/ubuntumythtv.html)10:38
ompaulodat, that is why sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop exists that works then add to it10:38
jawshoewahshould i cd out of synfigstudios dir?10:38
sudharshfor what10:39
iKernelsphtpaw: /nickserv help10:39
sudharshu need to be in the extracted dir to make10:39
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odatompaul, nah i can't stand kde10:39
sophtpawiKernel: i followed the commands <command> and none of them opened up10:39
ompaulodat, yahgu happy gnome user :)10:40
jawshoewahright but to do apt-get install build-essential10:40
jawshoewah?10:40
LemLapLinhow do i enable APM support in the kernel?10:40
sudharshsudo apt-get install buils-essential10:40
sophtpawiKernel: besides i don't see listed the command for changing passwords10:40
sudharshjawshoewah: must have misssed the sudo aprt10:40
sudharsh*part10:40
jawshoewahi did ;) now it says make command not found it dowloaded sudo apt-get install buils-essential10:41
jawshoewahooops10:41
iKernelchalcedony: /j #freenode. And no, that has nothing to do with X-Chat, x-chat is just a client.10:41
ompaulsophtpaw, /ns help is the start then you see set and you end up with >>/ns set password NEWPASSWORD<<10:41
iKerneland he sets his password as NEWPASWORD I bet.10:41
sudharshu also need to install automake and autoconf10:41
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ompauliKernel, hehe10:42
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jawshoewahthere we go darn typos10:42
iKernelsudharsh: That should come with build-essential. Make seems to be working fine for me.10:42
sophtpawompaul: ok, so how do i get into 'SET'?10:42
sudharshi didnt no dat sry10:42
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sudharshthen whats automake and autoconf10:42
LemLapLinhow do i enable APM support in the kernel?10:42
iKernelsophtpaw: type /ns set password [password] 10:42
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ompaulsophtpaw, I gave you the command  how hard can it be maybe don't change it if you can't cope with it10:43
iKernelsudharsh: I don't know, something to do with compilation.10:43
sudharshLemLapLin: r u building a vanilla kernel10:43
sudharshokie10:43
odatlol they kicked me out10:43
raphaBye!10:43
ompaulsophtpaw,  >>/ns set password NEWPASSWORD<< where you choose what NEWPASSWORD is10:43
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jawshoewahdo i need to define make when in the proper directory?10:43
odatfriggin kde morons10:43
iKernelman, what is this vanilla crap?10:43
odatgod i swear they want to turn linux into a payfor desktop10:43
iKernel!vanilla10:43
ubotuiKernel: What?10:43
jawshoewahie make synfigstudio-0.61.01?10:43
iKernel:(10:43
sudharshthats the original kernel10:43
ompauliKernel, now I am not putting that in there10:44
j2daoshwhats up people? would anyone happen to know a program that will list all user's logged into a comp and give options to kick them off? possibly with a gui but not necessessary. i am going to be working on one since im learning perl but one in C would look beter i think10:44
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iKernelodat: Some companies have commercial versions of their distros. RedHat, Novell...10:44
jawshoewahie make synfigstudio-0.61.01?10:44
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Myrttifinger :->10:44
iKerneljawshoewah: no.10:44
iKerneljawshoewah: just cd to the source dir and type make10:44
j2daoshfinger tels me who they are10:45
odatiKernel, but that whole kde  QT thing is really slimey10:45
ompaulMyrtti, w10:45
j2daoshim talking like the who command10:45
jawshoewah:~/Desktop/synfigstudio-0.61.01$ make10:45
jawshoewahmake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.10:45
iKernelodat: meh10:45
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LemLapLincan someone please tell me how do i enable APM support in the kernel?10:45
sophtpawgod this is frustrating10:45
sudharshguess what had my error myselves10:45
LemLapLini need it so i can read the battery level of my lappy10:45
odatiKernel, ?10:45
sophtpawi can't recover or change my password10:45
iKerneljawshoewah: cd to the extracted folder for christ's sake!10:45
j2daoshsophtpaw, wjats going on?10:45
ompauljawshoewah, if you have a lot of output make sure you do not post it here >> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org<< is for that10:45
jawshoewahit looks like i am10:46
sudharshjawshoewah: u need to be 'in' the dir u extrcated10:46
sophtpawi forgot my password10:46
sudharshtell the output of pwd10:46
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ompaulsophtpaw, then you can't reset the password for irc10:46
j2daoshthe root password? or just an account password?10:46
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j2daoshoh its on here10:46
j2daoshlol10:46
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iKernelj2dosh: yes.10:47
sophtpawompaul: that is what it seems like, so i got to ditch my handle then10:47
zdux0012Can I ask for help installing mythTv, I'm following directions at http://www.quietglow.com/docs/ubuntumythtv.html10:47
j2daoshmaybe /msg nickserv reregister password10:47
zdux0012I'm not getting the results I expected from dmesg, I get an error message about a firmware update: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw10:47
j2daoshlol10:47
iKerneljawshoewah: See the file called INSTALL? read it.10:47
ompaulsophtpaw, no join #freenode wait a long time to be given voice and then explain your problem10:47
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zdux0012I can paste the entire text on the paste page10:48
iKernelzdux0012: yep.10:48
ompaulzdux0012, paste.ubuntu-nl.org is your friend10:48
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marc_Where can I report bugs in dapper ?10:48
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iKernelhurry up... :(10:49
crimsunmarc_: bugzilla.ubuntu.com (main), launchpad.net/malone (universe/multiverse)10:49
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jawshoewahim sorry if I am inexperienced i have never done this operation before and the guidance is teaching me....i am in the dir i created...nevermind thanks for getting me this far though10:49
marc_crimsun, ah ok .. I guessed the bugzilla was for released only .. stupid me :p10:50
j2daoshwhat the hell is dapper? everyone is always talking about it but i have no idea what it is10:50
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Nameeateri've installed a 2nd hdd in my ubuntu box, how can I mount it/add it to fstab?10:50
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iKerneljawshoewah: Usually when you do things for the first time, you read the manual. I did.10:50
Myrttij2daosh: the next stable release of April10:50
Ngj2daosh: the current development version of ubuntu, it will be released in april10:50
jawshoewahok10:50
j2daoshoh... ok10:50
iKernelcept make didn't come with suse personal... so annoying10:50
sudharshlol10:50
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j2daoshNameeater, sudo vi /etc/fstab10:50
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Nameeaterand then? :|10:51
j2daoshadd it and then do mount "whatever you named it"10:51
j2daoshor mount -a10:51
NgNameeater: does the disk have any partitions on it yet? If it's a completely new and blank disk you probably want to use something like the Disk administrator or gparted to set up some partitions10:51
iKernelj2daosh: Some how I don't think he knows how to edit fstab.10:51
heewaj2daosh: Try "who -uH". That'll give you the users logged on, and the PID of the init process. You can then kill the process to kick them off.10:51
Nameeaterooo automounter sounds interesting10:51
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Ngthen you can add them to he fstab in the style of the existing entries10:52
nikolwhere can i find the plugins for ubuntu 5.04 to play mp3,mpg,mpeg,dvd etc...????10:52
NameeaterNg: its a fat32 disk i think10:52
sudharshnikol: install xmms, xine10:52
iKernelNameeater: format it to ext3.10:52
jawshoewahall of the documentation says its "just a placeholder for now" i assume that sense make does nothing ie command not found I just skip to makefile10:52
marc_crimsun, ok .. it's already reported ;) http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22204  .. my patch was not htat right it seems after all eithr :)10:52
j2daoshok i got another question... whats the pts stand for? u got tty for actually being at the console and pts... im assuming something concerning rlogin but what does it mean exactly10:53
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j2daoshand if im siting here at the computer shouldn't i have a tty instead of a pts for my name?10:54
NameeateriKernel: is there any reason to?10:54
j2daoshhow big is your drive Nameeater10:54
iKernelNameeater: Yes... ext3 is better.10:54
Nameeaterthe drive is a tiny 1.2gig10:55
j2daoshdo you have windows installed also?10:55
Nameeaterno10:55
darkkyokusanagihow to make ubuntu sound output to SPDIF?10:55
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j2daoshok... well if it is such a small drive i dont see where it would matter10:55
iKernelhmm k10:55
j2daoshext3 is more stable but fat is recognized by all sys10:55
darkkyokusanagii have only XMMS via ALSA for use SPDIF10:55
iKernelwhen is this gonna finish?!10:55
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nikolwhere can i find the plugins for ubuntu 5.04 to play mp3,mpg,mpeg,dvd etc...????10:55
Nameeatertried to use the automounter but it doesn't see it, how can i list hdd's and partitions?10:56
pornsurferHow can i setup dual monitor with Ubuntu? I have nvidia ti4400 dual output.10:56
j2daoshso if your gonna be sharing it just use fat and a windows/nix box will recognize it...10:56
Nameeater!mp310:56
ubotusomebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:56
j2daoshsystem...administration...disks10:56
iKernelnikol: Install xmms and xine. Open up synaptic, and use it to install xmms, and also use it to install xine.10:56
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victor3dhello10:57
nikoliKernel: i looked in synaptic but i did not find xmms and xine!!!10:57
j2daoshok another question... i can touch a file in my home directory but nowhere else without having to do a sudo... even if i create a directory in the / directory10:57
cozhello10:57
j2daoshwhy is that? if i make the file and directory i should be able to mod anytime anyway i want correct?10:58
odatiKernel, xine  nah mplayer10:58
victor3dplease tell me how to add application to gnome menu?10:58
cozNikol you have to have all ther respositories activated10:58
j2daoshhow so i make it so i can mod anything without sudo unless it is specifically owned by root10:58
j2daosh?10:58
pornsurferdoes ubuntu even have capability to do dual monitor?10:58
sudharshj2daosh: u have write access only yo ur home dir10:58
blue-frogj2daosh, root made the directory and it's owned by rooot10:58
cozprnsurfer yes10:58
j2daoshgo to applications... system tools... menu editor10:58
odatnikol, go with mplayer  just does stuff better   xine mozilla plugin stinks10:58
coznikol do you need help with this10:58
iKernelj2daosh: You mean other users' stuff?10:59
j2daoshno i mean my stuff10:59
coznickol what are you trying to sso10:59
cozdo10:59
iKernelj2daosh: Oh ok. Already done for you.10:59
zdux0012could I ask for help on how to do a firmware upgrade on a capture card10:59
iKernelj2daosh: Unless you installed some stuffs in your home dir as root, no problem.10:59
pornsurfercan someone point me in the right direction to get dual monitor setup on ubuntu?10:59
cozodat is right nikol10:59
j2daoshi had to sudo mkdir and all that because it wouldn't let me create one... but now i gotta sudo anytime i make a file... mod a file or want to del a file...10:59
darkkyokusanagiWhere can i found a good how-to for installing and configuring ubuntu 5.10?10:59
odatcoz, thanx10:59
odat:)10:59
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coz:) nor prob guy11:00
jawshoewahhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6880 make problems11:00
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blue-frogj2daosh, sudo makes root owner...11:00
coznikol are you still here11:00
j2daoshwhat group do i need to be apart of to make/mod/del files11:00
nikolwhat is odat coz?11:00
victor3dj2daosh: Add/Remove programs?11:00
j2daoshwithout root11:00
cozodat is one person here11:00
geraldhow do I disable teh computer speaker?11:00
odati'm a guy nikol11:00
odatlol11:00
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j2daoshvic... u on ubuntu?11:00
odatnikol you need a good repositories list11:00
iKernelj2daosh: Sounds like the stuff in your home dir is owned by root. What a shame.11:00
coznikol do you need help with this and what are you trying to do11:00
blue-frogj2daosh, you create your folder/files in your home directory11:00
victor3dj2daosh: i don't have menu editor in ubuntu11:00
coznikol hello?11:01
nikoli;m trying11:01
j2daoshu dont have an icon for applications... then system tools... then application menu editor?11:01
coztrying what?11:01
nikolto play mp3's and11:01
nikoldvd,mpeg11:01
liablej2daosh: so change the perme/owner/group for it..11:01
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j2daoshwhat if i dont want the files in my home directory though11:01
pornsurferdoes ubuntu have built in support for dual monitor, or do i have to get something?11:01
cozOH well that may take a bit more time unless you want to use automatix11:01
cozbut some people don't like that11:01
j2daoshwith the chown command?11:02
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nikol...11:02
victor3dj2daosh: no i don't have this one.... please tell me which command should i execute to configure the menu?11:02
liablechown chgrp chmod.. whatever is neccsary11:02
coznikol we could have ypu uo and running in about 15 minutes maybe more11:02
nikolautomatix is what???11:02
cozatomatix a script to download an isntal many fo the things youwant11:02
cozhold on I will get it for you11:03
nikol...11:03
geraldhow do I turn off the computer speaker/11:03
j2daoshno idea from the command line11:03
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=== liable loves that cmd :)
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liabledoh11:03
odatcoz, that thing is a little too much i think but for a newbie i guess its cool11:03
j2daoshgerald... u talking about the beep or muting?11:03
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liablenot the 64 one!11:03
jawshoewahhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6880 make problems11:04
j2daoshbimberi, hows it haning guy... long time no see11:04
nikoli'm the newbie11:04
nikol!!11:04
ubotu??11:04
pornsurferanyway to force ubuntu to use the other monitor connected to my video card?11:04
geraldi want to get rid of the beeping11:04
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j2daoshopen a terminal11:04
josehi guys, can anyone help me setting up my wireless? i'm getting crazy :D11:04
rawler__ompaul, Hendikins: I'll be damned.. seems like the problem were in zeroconf.. damn zeroconf crap.. *pissed*11:04
bimberihey j2daosh, not too bad :) you?11:04
coznikol are you using ubuntu breezy?11:04
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nikolnop11:04
josei don't know how to configure the file /etc/network/interfaces11:04
j2daoshgo to edit... current profile... change the tinkerbell option11:04
cozwhat are you using11:04
nikolhoary11:04
geraldnot too bad :) you?11:04
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cozOh well I don't know abouthoary and automatix11:05
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rawler__ompaul, Hendikins: when bringing lo up, as far as I understand, zeroconf tried to negotiate link-local address over a loopback interface.. :S11:05
ompaulrawler__, exactly what was the problem11:05
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cozif you want to try it that;s ok but I haven't11:05
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odatNikol, go here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:05
coznikol here http://rapidshare.de/files/8990420/automatix-ubuntu_v3.4.8.tar.gz.html11:05
cozjust incase you want to try it11:05
j2daoshbimberi, not a whole lot... im helping people lol... only had this like 3 weeks and im somewhat knowledgeable now lol... crazy aint it. im gonna start working on learning perl today... supposedly i can learn it in 21 days. lets see if the book lies11:05
rawler__ompaul: well, seems like ifup lo triggered an attempt to negotiate link-local address on it.. I'm not surprised that did not work.. ;)11:06
odatcoz, guess what11:06
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iKernelwoot woot! finished compileing. now for make install11:06
j2daoshrawler... ssh with freenx problem?11:06
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nikolcoz can we have a private conversation?11:07
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j2daoshjenda, whats up... had your coffee yet11:07
j2daoshlol11:07
odatcoz, i went into kde room got in a fight they tried to tell me you didn't need to liscense QT to write commercial software i sent them to this link http://www.trolltech.com/developer/faqs/index.html?catid=1953&id=159     and they banned me from talking to the channel lolololol11:07
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Ngtroll11:08
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j2daoshand what the hell man... ur over in europe... u should be up already... lol its like almost noon there11:08
kemikNg:  yeah, it says so in the link "trolltech" ;)11:08
kemikhihi11:08
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johnjohncoffee... hmmm it's 2am here...... tempting but i'll pass11:08
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ompaulj2daosh, no it is like ------- 10:08 am11:08
iKernelj2daosh: I knew a guy who slept till 1 pm11:08
j2daosh4 am here11:08
j2daoshand ill be getting some of that on the way to work lol11:09
iKernel9 pm here11:09
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jendaj2daosh hey there. You're right - but I'm sick. I got the right to be in bed :)11:09
j2daoshoh ok well if your sick its ok... i wont give you too much flak for being lazy11:09
j2daoshom... not in the uk11:09
iKernelwoot woot gcc finished install. bout time.11:10
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j2daoshjenda aren't u in like german or somewhere around that timezone?11:10
jendaj2daosh: Czech Rep. - yup, that TZ11:10
jendaMega OT11:10
j2daoshyeah that one lol11:10
iKernelGuys, why did the penguin cross the ice?11:11
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j2daoshbecause it got pushed?11:11
iKernelj2daosh: nope11:11
iKernelgive up?11:11
j2daoshit slipped and couldn't stop?11:11
iKernellol nup11:11
j2daoshbecause there was a windows box on the other side it wanted to break?11:11
iKernelheh heh... nup11:11
j2daoshuhh... no idea11:12
iKernelTo get to the other side! XD11:12
j2daoshlol11:12
nikolis there anyone who want's a private conversation with me? (i have 1002 questions :(  )11:12
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cozhe wanted to11:12
coznikol I will11:12
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coznikol are you registered?11:13
nikolnop11:13
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cozcan't do it11:13
nikol:(11:14
cozOk nikol lsets start11:14
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nikolokz11:14
mikeloi get this when i apt-cache search "Couldn't stat source package list"11:14
cozdid you get all of the sources list11:14
nikolat first i wanna play mp3,mpg etc but i am in internet cafe and the os is winxp!11:15
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nikoli must download the plugins etc...11:15
cozoh can't help unless it is your xp machine11:15
cozand that is all by default in xp11:15
iKernelThis better work this time, I have done CC=gcc311:15
iKernelAWW WHAT?!!?11:15
kemikiKernel:  ?11:16
iKerneloh wait... here's the problem11:16
iKernelUnable to find the compiler specified in the CC environnment variable: "gcc3".11:16
iKernelhmm11:16
kemikgcc-3.X11:16
kemiki guess11:16
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Ngnikol: the RestrictedFormats wiki page explains how to obtain the plugins for mp3, etc.11:16
jendanikol: eeww.... Are you asking US about XP? No offence, but try asking in ##windows11:16
nikolbut i can download the packages and install them to my pc11:16
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iKernelI'll try CC=gcc-3.4.511:16
kemikiKernel:  use the compiler that you've installed11:16
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jendanikol: oh I get it now. sorry.11:16
nikolno i say about ubuntu11:16
nikol:)11:17
kemikgc<tab> will give you a filename list11:17
iKernelkemik: yeah11:17
iKernelhmm k11:17
iKernelonly gcc 4 there :(11:17
jendanikol: that is rather difficult. You will need a complete list of packages + dependencies and then DL them all manually.11:17
Nameeaterikernel: nvidia drivers?11:17
iKernelthis is gay, I've waited ages for this to compile11:17
kemikapt-get the version of gcc you need then11:17
iKernelNameeater: nope11:18
Nameeatero11:18
Nameeaterare you using sudo?11:18
iKernelkemik: No gcc-3.4.5 in the repos. There's gcc-3.4.4 tho11:18
NgiKernel: there's no need to be homophobic11:18
iKernelNaeeater: Root prompt.11:18
darkkyokusanagiWhere can i find a good guide for ubuntu breezy?11:18
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Nameeaterwierd :<11:18
iKernelNg: What's homophobic?11:18
s_spiffcrap! i couldn't install Linux DC++!11:18
iKernel:P11:18
NgiKernel: "this is gay" - that's a really stupid insult11:18
nikoljenda: and what i must do???11:19
iKernelNg: It wasn't an insult :)11:19
Ngeither way it was irrelevant11:19
iKernelmeh11:19
iKernelI'll install gcc-3.4.4 and hope it works.11:19
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Ngwhat are you trying to do? compile a kernel module?11:20
Ngif so 3.4.4 is the right one11:20
iKernelNg: ok11:20
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iKerneleven though my kernel was compiled with gcc-3.4.5? cool11:20
kemikit's gay = it's jolly11:20
kemikheh11:20
Ngif it's the ubuntu stock kernel then it was compiled with 3.4.4 :)11:20
Ngcat /proc/version11:20
nikolkaneis ellinas edw??11:21
mikeloi get this when i apt-cache search "Couldn't stat source package list"11:21
jendawell... my guess is that the best way to do this all is 1) write a list of all the stuff you want to install 2) check HOWTOs on all of them... 3) and when you get home, type sudo apt-get install <all the packages> and then apt will list all the packages that it will install. You should copy that and go download them all from the cafe...11:21
ilba7rmikelo, try sudo apt-get update first11:22
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mikelook11:22
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iKernelI like it how synaptic install locally :)11:23
jendanikol: then you will need to put all these packages in the apt/cache directory or simply add the CD as a repo. Yeah that's better. then remove all the internet repos and run sudo apt-get update, and the install all the packages with the command you used before.11:23
iKernelinstead of having to download stuff11:23
odatcoz, still here?11:24
jendanikol: and perhaps doing this with a live CD would be easier... try asking if they mind.11:24
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cozcos is here sorry11:25
cozwhat is it odat11:25
caugierhi11:25
iKernelWhat is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running11:25
iKernelkernel?11:25
odatcoz, did you see my message earlier about the kde channel11:25
cozno ididn't sorry I was in ubuntuforums11:25
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iKernelUh oh, does this mean I have to download kernel sources?11:25
cozwhat was it11:25
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nikoli have and another prblm... i install apps,etc, and if it is not appears in the menu , i can't find and run this app!!!!11:25
nikolwhere is it??11:26
caugierdoes anyone have pointers on how to change the kernel in the livecd?11:26
coznikol if you install debian menu you will see it11:26
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coz however go to places and search for files11:26
odatcoz, i went in there and they tried to tell me you didn't have to pay to use Qt for commercial software and i posted this link http://www.trolltech.com/developer/faqs/index.html?catid=1953&id=159   and they banned me from commenting in the room lolololololol11:26
nikoli don't find them11:26
cozsearch in ust11:26
kemikiKernel:  yes probably11:26
cozodat hold on I will look11:27
coznikol search in usr11:27
nikoli must install debian menu???11:27
kemikiKernel:  linux-headers-kernelversion11:27
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cozno but do search for the application11:27
limguohong91Is it possible to install Photoshop CS 2 on Ubuntu?11:27
iKernelkemik: Got that installed. Where are the kernel headers installed to?11:27
cozunder places search for files and lookin usr11:27
odatcoz, oops sorry its this link http://www.trolltech.com/developer/faqs/index.html?catid=1953&id=17911:27
nikoland it says to me ...11:27
nikolempty11:27
nikolnothing11:27
kemikiKernel:  never looked...11:27
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iKernelhmm11:27
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aeghmm11:28
nnonixHow would I go about finding the version of an installed kernel module (ibm_acpi)?11:28
coznikol you have search open11:28
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iKernelfound them i think11:28
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Ngodat: software can be commercial and gpl, but this is all off-topic for here, you want #ubuntu-offtopic or another channel ;)11:28
cozyou areon hoary so i assume it is the same as breezy for this11:28
pornsurferi downloaded this:    http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb   where do i put it to run this:   sudo dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb11:28
cozodat I will have to look at this later11:29
odatcoz, cool11:29
odatNg, just letting everyone here know they made the right choice11:29
coznikol did you open find files11:29
kemikpornsurfer:  in a terminal11:29
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cozodat waht is this about?11:30
Ngodat: I expect there are plenty of KDE users here and that nobody feels the need for your validation of their choices, but ok ;)11:30
coz I didn't read it yet11:30
iKernel*gulp* I need kernel-source package installed. There isn't one in repos for 2.6.1211:30
pornsurferkemik, i tried typing that in a trtminal , and it says it cant find the file11:30
kemikpornsurfer:  dont have to put the file in a specific location aslong as your user can aceess it11:30
iKernelWhere can I download the kernel sources?11:30
kemikpornsurfer:  make sure you're in the directory where you downloaded the .deb11:30
cozsynaptic  ikernel11:30
NgiKernel: there's a package called linux-source-2.6.1211:30
pornsurferi am absolutely new to linix so, what exactly does that mean for me?11:30
Glutinouskernel.org11:30
iKernelNg: Ah k11:30
odatNg, sorry get a little proactive about things i believe in11:30
NgiKernel: or there's linux-tree-2.6.12 which also grabs the ubuntu patches11:30
iKernelkk11:30
nikolsynaptic yes11:31
cozwhat did you type pornsurfer11:31
aegjust did a install of ubunto   "boot: linux"   it didn't ask for a root paswd ... or did i miss something ?11:31
nikolikernel nop11:31
kemikpornsurfer:  in what directory did you put the file ?11:31
pornsurferkemik, desktop11:31
cozI am lost again11:31
Ngaeg: by default there is no root password, the account is disabled and you use "sudo" to perform root-level tasks11:31
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kemikpornsurfer:  in a terminal do this: "cd ~/Desktop" "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb"11:31
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kemik(where foo is the name of the file )11:31
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pornsurferkemik, thanks, i will try11:31
burbzanybody got a good java install tut for ubuntu? found some, but unable to track down java-package.11:31
iKernelNg: ok, which one is recommended?11:32
kemik!tell burbz about java11:32
kemik!tell burbz about javadebs11:32
NgiKernel: probably linux-tree-2.6.1211:32
iKernelk11:32
jendanikol: you can always run thm through the command line11:32
burbzkemik: thanks alot11:32
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jendanikol: and you can usually find the executables in /bin /usr/bin /usr/share/bin etc.11:33
cozI have not slept, drinking coffee, and chewing on a peach cigar11:33
victor3dj2daosh: one more question to u?11:33
cozi am ready to help if I can11:33
jendayo me too11:33
victor3dj2daosh: when i run ./configure for the Licq it says that X couldn't be found.... but it exists.... what to do??11:34
s_spiffanyone here tried installing LinuxDC++?11:34
nikolcoz: :D11:34
kemiks_spiff:  mmh think it's the one im using11:34
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kemiks_spiff:  there's a .deb for it11:34
s_spiffwhere?11:34
pornsurferkemik, i tried that and all i got is    >11:34
jendas_spiff I did...11:34
coznikol :K11:34
s_spiff i've been trying like a nut...i simply cant get one!11:34
s_spiff wher can i get a .deb!11:34
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cozthanks jenda11:35
s_spiff jenda , where can i find a .deb of it?11:35
nikolthe executables are in the bin's heh?11:35
kemikpornsurfer:  without the quotes right ?11:35
nikolmmmm11:35
cozs_spiff of what?11:35
mikeloi can't connect to my dsl provider with pppoeconfig11:35
kemikpornsurfer:  ctrl-c will escape you from the >11:35
jendas_spiff: /dev/jenda is searching11:35
pornsurferkemik, i dont know anything about this stuff yet.... can you type like i should do it ?11:35
kemikpornsurfer:  and dont use the "" ;)11:36
iKernelhmm, ubuntu don't come with wine.11:36
victor3dpeople howto make Licq program if ./configure says what i don't have X???11:36
aegI'm loggedin as the default user from the install: sudo  and su - ask's for a password (sorry for the dump question)11:36
nikoland hah what is the extension for executables??11:36
s_spiffLinuxDC++11:36
coznikol no extension to be seen11:36
s_spiffjenda and kemik have installed it...so askin them, wher i can find a .deb for it11:36
iKernelaeg: Just type in your password11:36
pornsurferkemik, i will try without ""11:36
kemikpornsurfer:  in a terminal do this: "cd ~/Desktop<ENTER>" "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb<ENTER>" and no quotes! ;)11:36
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kemiks_spiff:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42084&page=1&pp=1011:36
aegiKernel: Ok sorry it works thx11:37
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pornsurferkemik, thanks !11:37
cozs_spiff here you go http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76643.html11:37
iKernelaeg: No problem.11:37
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LemLapLinhow do i install an app from source?11:38
nikolfrom where i can download xine????11:38
cozOk people this coffe and cigar are really makeing me hyper, so I want to help even though i don't know aything11:38
s_spiffyeah kemik i tried it11:38
kemikLemLapLin:  you compile it11:38
s_spiff didnt work11:38
kemikLemLapLin:  usually ./configure | make | make install11:38
jendanikol: it's in the repos : xine-ui11:38
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LemLapLinany wiki entries about it kemik ?11:38
pornsurferkemik, it says it cannot find the file, is there a better place i can put it to do this other than desk?11:38
kemikLemLapLin:  and you'll need the build-essential package installed11:38
kemik!compile11:38
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware11:39
coznikol sudo apt-get install totem-xine11:39
victor3dplease please help me!! how to compile the program that says i don't have X but i have one!!!11:39
cozin the terminal11:39
kemikpornsurfer:  the location should not matter11:39
kemikpornsurfer:  type "ls"  and see if the file is there even11:39
Glutinousvictor3d, you probably need to install the X11 development packages11:39
s_spiff coz, thank you...i finally got the deb package!!! ya!11:39
s_spiffyay!*11:39
cozgreat11:39
thoreauputic_victor3d: not sure what you mean but try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:39
pornsurferkemik, do i do this while i am in the desk directory?11:40
kemikpornsurfer:  yes11:40
pornsurferkemik, ok , i appreciate the help11:40
cozthoreauputic_ type that into the terminal11:40
nikolahhhhhhhh! i installed the totem but it needs plugins to play movies11:40
kemikpornsurfer:  'ls' lists files in a directory11:40
nnonixHow would I go about finding the version of an installed kernel module (ibm_acpi)? Anyone?11:40
thoreauputic_coz: erm...11:40
coznikol yes it does you want to get them11:40
nikolfrom?11:40
thoreauputic_coz: didi you mean that for victor3d ?11:41
cozhold on oepn the terminal11:41
coztherputic I really don't remember now11:41
nikol(sorry, but am newbie in linux)11:41
pornsurferkemik, i did what you said and it found this on the desktop  :   libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb11:41
cozapplications11:41
pornsurferI beeez stumped11:41
cozaccessories I think''11:41
Pygifreaky: ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping11:41
kemikpornsurfer:  and what are you typing when using dpkg ?11:42
coznikol did you find it the terminal11:42
Pygidpkg -i package.deb11:42
pornsurferwhat you said to do earlier11:42
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pornsurferkemik, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb"11:42
kemikpornsurfer:  well, replace foo.deb with the actual filename ;)11:42
pornsurfer"actual filename"11:42
pornsurferi did, sorry11:42
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iKernelOne problem after the next. >:(11:43
pornsurferit didnt work11:43
cozguys in hoary is the terminal under applications /accessories11:43
ludiHow do I get greek text to show up in Greek letters instead of characters that look like boxes with numbers and letters in them?11:43
kemikhmmmmmm.. that should work11:43
Ngthe quickest way to install libdvdcss is: sudo apt-get install libdvdread3 ; sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh11:43
ludiHow do I get greek text to show up in Greek letters instead of characters that look like boxes with numbers and letters in them?11:43
nikolludi ellinas??11:43
ludisorry for double-post11:43
kemikpornsurfer:  take Ng's advice.. im of to eat11:43
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jendas_spiff: You said you tried the howto on the fora?11:43
ludinikol:  what?11:43
coznikol did you open the terminal?11:43
pornsurferkemik, thanks for the help !11:43
sorush20what is the command for adding a line to a file?11:44
nikolnop i can't i'm running xp :(11:44
kemikpornsurfer:  np, just keep trying :)11:44
cozoh that's right11:44
thoreauputic_sorush20: echo "your line here" >> file11:44
cozi don't know anything but I will help you anyway11:44
iKernelbah, I'll just change vermagic.h to version.h11:44
thoreauputic_sorush20: if I understood you correctly11:44
sorush20thoreauputic what about tee11:44
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pornsurferNg,  i did that and it returned this :   0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 478 not upgraded.11:45
thoreauputic_sorush20:  tee -a  (adds rather than clobbering the file)11:45
pornsurferNg, what does this mean>?11:45
jawshoewahpreface....i know that most of you hate helping noobs with simple procedures butincase someone has some patience left...11:45
Ngpornsurfer: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh11:45
Ngpornsurfer: you probably missed that bit11:45
cozjawshoewah what is up11:45
thoreauputic_sorush20: you pipe through tee -->  echo foo | tee -a file11:45
jawshoewahhowto do anunzip?11:46
pornsurferNg, i miss everything, i am new !11:46
s_spiffyeah11:46
s_spiff didnt work for me..jenda11:46
sorush20thoreauputic interesting11:46
cozjawshoewah anunzip11:46
jendas_spiff: I have no idea then...11:46
jawshoewahI was on the ubuntu forum I found a mmorpg that was in Native11:46
iKernelm11:46
cozyou mean unzip something11:46
jawshoewahanunzip is the command?11:46
sorush20thoreauputic I think I'm gonna like command line.. if only it had predictive abilities11:46
s_spiffin windows I could set a certain ip for my pc11:46
ilba7rthoreauputic, hi how are you.11:46
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s_spiff how to do that in linux?11:46
s_spiffi'11:46
s_spiffi'm using pppoe11:46
iKerneltake hammer to this program in a minute!!11:46
burbzthis java crap is making me wanna kill somebody.. it WONT install java-package, so im pretty much fucked. have added the main restrictive universe multiverse through adept gui, but it refuses to work.11:47
jendaAnyone know why my kernel won't upgrade to 2.6.12-10 and is stuck at -9?11:47
thoreauputic_!javadeb11:47
ubotuJava can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/11:47
cozbubz you want help11:47
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jawshoewahcoz: an unzip11:47
pornsurferNg, is this normal?     warning: downgrading libdvdcss2 from 1.2.9-1 to 1.2.5-1.11:47
cozright click and expand here11:47
burbzcoz, you talking to me?11:47
cozburbz yes11:47
burbzcoz, yes please11:48
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iKerneljenda: :D I'm pretty sure 2.6.12 comes with ubuntu-breezy11:48
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Ngpornsurfer: that probably means you had installed the other version you downloaded, but it shouldn't matter11:48
cozok I will send you the official sun java hold on11:48
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iKerneljenda: 2.6.12-10 sorry11:48
jawshoewahwow that filled my desktop pretty good11:48
cozburbz are you running breezy?11:48
pornsurferNg, thats a wonder, i thought i DIDNT install it....11:48
Ngjenda: what does a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" say? (please use a pastebin for the output)11:48
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s_spiffneed help! hey is there somehthing like a GUI for adding extra ip's ad..or gateways..or subnet masks?11:48
burbzcoz, i've got the jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin, and im running breezy, 5.10 or something11:48
pornsurferNg, thanks for the help !11:49
Ngpornsurfer: no probs :)11:49
cozOk put the packae into your home folder11:49
blue-frogs_spiff, to what?11:49
jendaiKernel: well apt-get most definitely downgraded mine, then... it's at -911:49
burbzcoz, could we do this in msg?11:49
jawshoewahi just made a folder now put that in home?11:49
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Seveascoz, install java-package from multiverse and use make-jpkg to turn the .bin into a .deb which you can install11:49
cozyou mean i private?11:49
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jendaNg: is it safe to do that?11:49
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cozI will try11:49
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burbzSeveas: i've tried that one, but it cant find java-package, i've added the respotitories11:50
s_spiffblue-frog  in windows i could right click on my connectiong say properties/... >TCP/IP and then add ip add, dns servers..anyways in linux to do it?11:50
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burbzcoz, yes, private11:50
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jawshoewahwhat would the command chmod to 775 do?11:50
blue-frogs_spiff, system>adminstration>network11:50
xoredis there a way to get xchat tunning with a psybnc ?11:50
s_spiffok..then?11:50
cozwell I am trying it is waiting for you it says11:50
Ngjenda: should be, yes11:50
aegs_spiff: thats all set in /etc/network/interfaces ...    but i don't know about pppoe11:50
Pygicoz: the dcc doesnt work lately :PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPppppppp11:51
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Pygixchat problems11:51
cozburbz hold on I will send you the .deb package11:51
Seveas!info java-package11:51
ubotujava-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.26 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 308 kB11:51
burbzokay, thanks11:51
Seveasit's there though :)11:51
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Pygioh, seveas is back :P11:51
burbzi dont think that java-package likes me11:51
SeveasPygi, indeed. Beware11:51
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mikelohi how do i update my jdk and jre to 1.5?11:51
pornsurferNg, Thank you !!! it is playing my dvd now !11:51
Seveas!tell mikelo about javadebs11:51
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PygiSeveas: yes, now I shall be kick/banned forever :P11:52
Seveasburbz, you can also grab a pre-cooked java .deb file11:52
Ngpornsurfer: :)11:52
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burbzSeveas: from adept/apt-get?11:52
Pygiubotu tell bubrz about javadebs11:52
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pornsurfer<----    :)11:52
Seveasburbz, yep11:52
burbzits the wrong version, just 1.4.211:52
supernoobchmod to 775?????????11:52
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Seveasburbz, you need another repository ;)11:52
burbzindeed i do11:53
Seveas!tell burbz about javadebs11:53
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dortowhich version of ubuntu is being sent by 'shipit' currently? breezy badger?11:53
Seveasdorto, correct11:53
Pygiseveas, ubotu told him that laready :P11:53
Pygiread up :P11:53
dortok, thx11:53
superannoyingnoois chmod to 775 a command?11:53
Seveassuperannoyingnoo, yes11:53
Pygichmod 775 is command11:53
geokkerguys, Ubuntu open office Impress, how do I anti-alias shapes?11:53
superannoyingnoocool ty11:53
pornsurferNg, heres one more:  how can i make ubuntu use my other attached monitor as the primary?11:53
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blue-frogsuperannoyingnoo, man chmod11:53
superannoyingnook11:53
geokkerthey are horrifically jaggy a la 198211:53
Ngpornsurfer: what kind of graphics card(s) do you have?11:53
pornsurferi have nvidia ti440011:53
cozburbz hold on it is uploading11:53
superannoyingnooman hardely ever works for the progs I like11:54
superannoyingnoousually nothing in them11:54
Pygisurfer: installed drivers?11:54
Ngpornsurfer: with two monitors connected to that single card? you can use both monitors if you want :)11:54
cozburbz actually you already have the one package lets go from there11:54
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pornsurferNg, i use them both with XP, but i dont know how with ubuntu :(11:54
burbzcoz, got the .bin file from java.sun.com11:54
cozburbz in a terminal type the folowing11:54
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burbzcoz, as root or regular user11:54
burbz?11:54
cozburbz chmod +x jre-1 wahtever your file name is11:55
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r0skhi ppl11:55
cozroot11:55
Ngpornsurfer: I wrote a quick description of how I did it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaMultipleMonitors11:55
burbzdone11:55
xoredis there a way to get xchat tunning with a psybnc ?11:55
burbzcoz, and its a jdk package11:55
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r0skis there any backport to install java-1.5 on hoary please?11:55
ludiHow do I get greek text to show up in Greek letters instead of characters that look like boxes with numbers and letters in them?11:55
cozok hold on11:55
Ngpornsurfer: start reading at "Quick and dirty guide to using nVidia TwinView"11:55
carlos_jo11:55
cozyou want the whole shebang11:55
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jendaNg: yuck.... reminds me of QDOS11:56
burbzyes, need the javac command and all11:56
ubuntubah11:56
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pornsurferNg, awesome! i will give it a read .   also, do you know why when i set my monitors to be centered with XP , the screen is offset with ubuntu? tghis is weird, and the primary monitor is switched11:56
burbzcoz, we're compiling java scripts via term11:56
vagegastubuntu refuses to mount my hdd :(11:56
bimberir0sk: http://www.giannaros.org/buntu/hoary/i386/11:56
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Ngpornsurfer: it's probably picked slightly different default refresh rates, you might be able to set them to the same as XP with the Screen Resolution tool in System->Preferences11:57
Pygivegavest: what hdd? /etc/fstab?11:57
cozV ok guy11:57
Glutinouspornsurfer, try using the official nvidia drivers too11:57
cozburbz ok guy11:57
pornsurferNg, nt know how to install the nvidia drivers11:57
ludiHow do I set my locale?11:58
Pygiubotu tell pornsurfer about nvidia11:58
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pornsurferShaweeeee!!11:58
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r0skbimberi: thanks a lot!11:59
pornsurferNg, i will try to do the nvidia drivers now11:59
Ngpornsurfer: yeah, make sure you have the nvidia drivers working fine first :)11:59
burbzcoz, need to get the whole java-package thingy to work, or else i cant do shit11:59
bimberir0sk: np :)11:59
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cozI am still waiting for the upload to finish11:59
cozburbz hold on11:59
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burbzokay11:59
Krishnautixhey I installed xipmsg, a lan messenger, wanted to know, how to add it to my Applications Menu?11:59
burbzcoz, ill hold, no problem.12:00
pornsurferNg, i will be at this one a while i think ;)12:00
nikoli have log in as administrator but it says that i have no permission to write etc to many folders and files.. how i can get the permission to do everything???12:00
jendaNg: I'm apting something that'll take a long time, so I'll run the dist upgrade then. I'll be back! :)12:00
Ngpornsurfer: it's pretty easy if you follow the wiki instructions :)12:00
coz you can always automatix12:00
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Ngjenda: ok12:00
thoreauputic_!automatix12:00
ubotuit has been said that automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!12:00
burbzcoz, automatix?12:00
cozV yes hold on that is smaller12:00
superannoyingnoowould chmod 775 be a valid argument?12:00
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burbzsuperannoyingnoo: yes, if you apply it to a folder or a file12:01
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bimberisuperannoyingnoo: yes, for example "chmod 775 file"12:01
cozburbz http://rapidshare.de/files/8990420/automatix-ubuntu_v3.4.8.tar.gz.html12:01
nikoli have log in as administrator but it says that i have no permission to write etc to many folders and files.. how i can get the permission to do everything???12:01
superannoyingnoofile being the name of the file?12:01
vagegasttype sudo -s -H12:02
bimberisuperannoyingnoo: yes (or directory)12:02
thoreauputic_!tell nikol about sudo12:02
burbzcoz, can i apt-get automatix?12:02
cozburbz tell me when you have it12:02
cozNO12:02
cozcan you get that url12:02
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burbzdownloading12:02
burbzdone12:02
jenda!tell burbz about automatix12:02
cozok right click and extract here12:03
redguynikol: what do you mean by "i have log in as administrator" ?12:03
cozsome people don't like automatix burbz12:03
jendacoz...12:03
thoreauputic_coz: for good reasons12:03
redguyjenda: coz it might break things12:03
cozburbz lthoreauputic and redguy12:03
burbzi just want my java JDK to work12:03
jendaredguy no need telling me :(12:04
cozI have NEVER had anything machine or install break because of this12:04
thoreauputic_coz: which proves absolutely nothing12:04
coz burbz it is up to you12:04
redguyjenda: erm, got a little bit confused there :-)12:04
jendacoz: we've had MANY reinstalls in #ubuntu because of aut'x12:04
Pygi!automatix12:04
ubotu[automatix]  messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!12:04
burbzcoz, lets doo it12:04
cozOK burbz right click and extract here12:04
burbzcoz, done12:04
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cozV ok open the file12:05
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thoreauputic_*sigh*12:05
burbzcoz, im in the folder12:05
cozlook for the instll sh and click it and run12:05
jendaSeveas: I wasn't allowed to promote easyubuntu and automatix pushing is OK???12:05
burbzjenda, have you got a better way for making my jdk work, let me know12:05
coz hold on12:06
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cozguys I do this for a living residential and coporate installs12:06
Seveascoz, NEVER promote automatix in here12:06
thoreauputic_coz: so what ?12:06
cozNEVER a break on any machine commercial or built12:06
Seveasit is broken, stupid and horrible12:06
Seveasnxt time will be properly rewarded.12:06
nikoli have install themes but i can't find them from themes...12:06
cozwell we have started already12:07
Ngburbz: the best way to install a jdk is to follow the Sun Java instructions on the RestrictedFormats wiki page12:07
burbzthat 'make your own' .deb package of the jdk seemed like a good tutorial, but without the java-package file im lost12:07
Seveasjenda, pushing automatix is very much NOT ok12:07
vagegastis there a linux command i could give to format a ntfs HDD containing my old XP bootdrive12:07
cozyes it is12:07
Ngburbz: you will turn the .bin download into a .deb and install it in very few steps :)12:07
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Seveasbye coz12:07
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burbzNg, that 'make your own' .deb package of the jdk seemed like a good tutorial, but without the java-package file im lost12:07
Seveaswe try to help people here, not help them break their system12:07
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nikoli have install themes but i can't find them from themes...12:07
Ngburbz: java-package is a package in ubuntu, you can get it with "sudo apt-get install java-package", you may need to enable the Multiverse repository first though12:07
nikolany idea?12:07
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vagegastbreak their systems? mine is already broken why the h*ll else would i be on ubuntu live cd12:08
burbzNg, yeah, i went through the howto that someone gave me, added the multiverse repository, but it still wouldnt work12:08
thoreauputic_nikol: how did you install them? And have you looked in the "details" tabs ?12:08
Seveasburbz, put your sources.list on the pastebin12:08
Seveaslet's see if you added it correctly12:09
Pygiyup, it's probably in details12:09
burbzSeveas: dumb question, but how do i do that?12:09
vagegasthmmmz12:09
Ngit's not a dumb question :)12:09
Pygi!pastebin12:09
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org12:09
thoreauputic_nikol: if it was a tarball, you can install by drag-drop onto the themes dialogue12:09
Pygiand sources.list is here: /etc/apt/sources.list12:09
Seveasburbz, open the file in a text editor and paste the contents on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl12:09
PygiSeveas: huh, I posted it already :P12:10
Pygito be precise, ubotu did :P12:10
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burbzokay, hold on :)12:10
nikoli install apps etc and i can't find the executable to run!12:10
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burbzhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/688212:11
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burbzthere you go12:11
Pygik, lookin'12:11
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Seveasburbz, dif you do an apt-get update after editing that file?12:11
thoreauputic_nikol: which apps? You can find the executable by running  dpkg -L <packagename> | grep bin  (usually)12:11
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burbzSeveas: no12:11
Seveasburbz, then do :)12:12
Pygihuh, ran that :p12:12
Pygisudo apt-get update12:12
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burbzand then apt-get install java-package?12:12
Seveasburbz, the file is still incomplet though, look at paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 for a more complete one12:12
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s_spifffinally!12:12
nboundeverytime i install ubuntu x-64 it will boot to a black screen and freeze12:13
burbzSeveas: so i can add more mirrors to the list? not just have .no mirrors?12:13
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s_spiffhey people, i need help aghain...12:13
Pyginbound: dapper?12:13
nbounddapper?12:14
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s_spiff i just installed xipmsg [ a lan msngr]  and i cant c it in the menu, though i installed it via syanptic12:14
burbzSetting up java-package (0.26) ...12:14
burbz:DD12:14
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Seveasburbz, no paste 6047 is a complete replacement for what you have, just change www.archive into no.archive for the nrsk mirrors12:14
Pygiburbz: :P12:14
flodineanyone have pci express on ubuntu?12:14
Pygiflodine: issues?12:15
nboundPygi: dapper?? :S12:15
burbzSeveas: ah, i see12:15
Pygiubotu tell nbound about dapper12:15
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burbzand after getting java-package installed, i just follow the howto?12:15
s_spiffbrb12:15
Pygido you have dapper or what?12:15
nboundnope12:15
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nbound5.1012:15
Ngburbz: yep12:16
Seveasburbz, the 'howto' is: fakeroot make-jpkg bla.bin && sudo dpkg -i bla.deb12:16
Seveas:)12:16
Pygihuh, that x64 has a lot of problems :P12:16
thoreauputic_burbz: yes - make sure you have the right java file of course12:16
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flodinePygi so dont get one pciexpress12:16
Pygiseveas: you are faking howto's12:16
Seveas(of course replace 'bla' with the appropriate filename)12:16
nboundPygi: what one should i use12:16
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nboundget dapper before its released perhaps?12:16
Pyginbound: does the 32 bit ubuntu does same?12:16
burbzSeveas: okay, and should I run this from /usr/local/ or whereever?12:16
Pyginbound: u can try :P12:16
thoreauputic_Seveas: bla: file not found *grin*12:16
Pygilol, don't write "bla"12:17
Seveasburbz, n'importe ou12:17
licre|AFKbla12:17
nboundPygi: dont wanna spend another 7hrs dloading ubuntu 32bit12:17
Seveas(wherever)12:17
burbzhehe, okay12:17
PygiSeveas: see what happens? :P12:17
Seveasbla :p12:17
licre|AFKbra12:17
Pyginbound: you can order one :P12:17
PygiSeveas: bla :p12:17
Seveas /nick bla12:17
thoreauputic_Pygi: I was kidding in cse you missed the *grin* ;-)12:18
licre|AFKbala12:18
nboundPygi:  that cost money and time :-( :P12:18
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licre|AFKtriva!12:18
Pyginbound: no ubuntu ships medias for free12:18
burbzseveas: i get an error when trying apt-get update / sudo apt-get update now, with that example file12:18
Seveasnbound, ubuntu cd's are free12:18
nboundeven to australia???12:18
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Seveasburbz, errors at the pastebin12:18
Seveasnbound, worldwide12:19
Pyginbound: even to australia12:19
burbzroger that, hold12:19
nboundjebus12:19
Seveasnbound, http://shipit.ubuntu.com12:19
thoreauputic_nbound: I'm in .au and I got mine a while ago :)12:19
burbzi think i made a mistake when adding no. to all the mirrors12:19
nboundthoreauputic_: how long does it take?12:19
liableadding no?12:19
thoreauputic_nbound: 4 to 6 weeks12:19
licre|AFKIs there a special version for .au?12:20
Seveasburbz, put all the error output on the pastebin and we'll see :)12:20
nboundhmmm :-/12:20
thoreauputic_licre|AFK: why would there be?12:20
nboundlicre|AFK:  i cant see why there would be...12:20
Seveaslicre|AFK, yeah, the "G'day mate" version ;)12:20
UncleDIf I want to give ownership to /home/www/* to all users in group "www" what is the proper chown syntax - I want to make sure they own12:20
UncleDall files following /www/12:20
burbzSeveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/688312:20
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licre|AFKGee?12:20
SeveasUncleD, chown -R :www /var/www/*12:20
UncleDgracias12:20
thoreauputic_Seveas: that's the PPC version - the i386 version is the "no worries" version ;)12:20
nboundhehe12:21
Seveasburbz, there is no 'no.security.ubuntu.com', that should simply be 'security.ubuntu.com'12:21
UncleDSeveas: what would case this error: www is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.12:21
nboundhe'll spend all this week wondering what "no worries" even means ;-)12:21
burbzSeveas: but other than that it looks good?12:21
SeveasUncleD, user www can't use sudo12:21
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UncleDah12:21
Seveasonly the user you created during the install can do that12:21
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Seveasburbz, yes12:22
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burbzSeveas: it worked12:22
pornsurferNg, i managed to do something wrong. Now ubuntu wont boot, i have no gui. where should i start to fix this?12:22
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UncleDSeveas: Ok, I performed that command and it properly assigned all files in the directory structure /var/www/ to group www - however, a user in my group cannot delete them (is this because they also belong to userid www?)12:23
Ngpornsurfer: how far does it get into booting?12:23
neoxitehi, i installed ubuntu 5.10 with server-expert, and now i want to install the usplash loader, but i can't figure out how to get it to display the splashscreen12:23
UncleD-rw-r--r-- 1 www www 458399 2006-01-10 02:19 testfile.tar.gz12:23
SeveasUncleD, is that user in the www group?12:23
UncleDThe user www isn't in the www group12:23
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UncleDbut the user im trying to delete the file with is12:23
Seveaswell, that explains :)12:23
SeveasUncleD, ah12:23
SeveasUncleD, chmod -R g+w /var/www/*12:24
UncleDis there some kind of conflict?12:24
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Seveas(to make it all group-writable)12:24
neoxitemy kernel does have the 'splash' option set, and it's using the vesafb framebuffer12:24
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pornsurferNg, it gets pretty far, then says something about X ... i am not really sure what i did wrong. I was trying to install the nvidia drivers. any way to undo what i did? i tried recovery mode, but i dont know any commands12:24
thoreauputic_UncleD: you need group writable as Seveas says12:24
nboundPygi: would using kubuntu instead fix my prob?12:24
Ngpornsurfer: you can boot into recovery mode and run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" - that will reconfigure X and that should fix it12:24
UncleDaha12:24
burbzSeveas: it seems to be working now, but i had to run it as a regular user, will this not make the installation global?12:25
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s_spiffhello..need help..12:25
neoxiteanybody know how else is nesessary for usplash to work, maybe some lines in the initrd?12:25
Pyginbound: nop12:25
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nbounddamn12:25
pornsurferNg, thanks!  i will try that. gotta reboot.12:25
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Seveasneoxite, 'splash' in the kernel commandline and maybe a dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)12:26
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neoxiteSeveas, ok, i'll try dpkg-reconfigure, is that going to modify the init-ramdisk?12:27
UncleDSeveas: very small paste - http://rafb.net/paste/results/siIynt90.html12:28
Seveasyes12:28
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elyoenaihi there12:28
SeveasUncleD, that's in /home/www not /var/www12:28
elyoenaiI need some help with my keyboard12:28
UncleDwhy should it make a difference Seveas?12:28
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PuMpErNiCkLeelyoenai: Sure.. what's the problem?12:28
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SeveasUncleD, nothing, misread the rest :)12:29
elyoenaiI cannot type the "at" symbol or other third level symbols12:29
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UncleDSeveas: any idea what's going on there?12:29
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SeveasUncleD, hmm, I don't get it..12:29
nboundso shipit is definately free :S12:29
elyoenaiI have tried to change the keyboard third level features but wasn't able12:29
noakiHi! Can sb help me with the ati driver installation? I found an error in the "Xorg.0.log after configuring the "xorg.conf"12:30
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UncleDSeveas: One thing to notice is that the user 'www' owns the file, yet the user 'www' is not a member of /etc/group (^_^) - any thoughts?12:30
SeveasUncleD, what's the output of 'id'?12:30
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PuMpErNiCkLeelyoenai: Have you tried changing the keyboard ruleset?  System -> preferences -> keyboard ?12:30
UncleDah..12:30
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Seveasif 'www' is not in there, try in a new terminal :)12:30
UncleDI see the problem now :)12:30
UncleDgood fix :)12:30
UncleDlogged in/ logged out, problem solved12:30
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elyoenaiyep I have tried changing the distribution options. U meant that?12:31
UncleDOk you earned your @ for the day!12:31
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elyoenaibut I get an error12:31
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PuMpErNiCkLeelyoenai: What's the error?12:31
Seveashehe :)12:31
burbzanother problem has occured, cant run a java installer as root, but it works fine as regular user, just echos lots of errors when i try..12:31
Seveasburbz, haw are you running the installer?12:32
burbz./file12:32
burbzafter chmod +x'n it12:32
Seveasdon't12:32
PygiSeveas: I got a new thingy yesterday that needs to be done... guess in what "language"/framework I am doing it :)12:32
Seveasit's: fakeroot make-jpkg bla.bin12:32
SeveasPygi, brainfuck?12:33
Seveas(yes, that is a language...)12:33
burbzSeveas: no, its not the java installation anymore, its a program for linux12:33
elyoenaierror activating XKB due to some kind of error in libxklavier or in X server (xkbcomp, xmodmap utilities) or X server with an incompatible libxkbfile implementation12:33
Seveasburbz, ah :)12:33
joachim-nwhat does "bash: alias: policy: not found12:33
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joachim-n" mean?12:33
Seveasjoachim-n, probably an error in your .bashrc :)12:34
burbzSeveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/688412:34
UncleDSeveas: How can i make my bashrc leet?12:34
renedoxrm -rf ~/.bashrc --leet12:34
UncleDsweet12:34
Ngerr12:35
elyoenaimaybe it is usuful to know that I have a Compaq R4000 notebook12:35
UncleDhey why cant i login to my machine now!12:35
SeveasUncleD, echo 'echo 1337' >> ~/.bashrc12:35
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Ngrenedox: that might be "funny", but it's really not useful12:35
PygiSeveas: huh, ok, I won't talk to you anymore then..........12:35
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SeveasPygi, ?12:35
renedoxNg: well, I don't think he's really going to do it12:35
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UncleDhow do i get back my old .bashrc12:36
Seveasburbz, as normal user run this: sudo ./bla12:36
Ngrenedox: how wonderful for you, let's hope he thinks that too and everyone else reading12:36
PygiSeveas: nvm12:36
renedoxNg: :|12:36
renedoxNg: that just took the fun out of everything...12:36
burbzSeveas: but if i run it as a normal user i cant install it to /usr/local/12:36
SeveasPygi, did you ever use brainfuck or whitespace?12:36
burbzoh, i see, nevermind12:36
Seveasburbz, that's where the sudo comes in: that makes it run as root in the users environment (ie: with working X)12:37
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burbzah, learned something new today then :)12:37
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PygiSeveas: no, whatever that is....12:37
PuMpErNiCkLeelyoenai: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75052.html and http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15372 seem to offer an explanation and a solution for your problem.12:37
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redguyPygi: obscure programming languages12:38
SeveasPygi, they're evil programming languages you should google them for fun :)12:38
joachim-ndo spaces on the RHS of an alias command in the bash profile need to be quoted or escaped?12:38
s_spiffboss, someone help!12:38
Seveasjoachim-n, yes12:38
s_spiff i just installed xipmg via synaptic12:38
joachim-neg alias isinstalled=apt-cache policy12:38
s_spiff and i cant c the icon in my App. Menu12:38
s_spiff any way to add it there?12:38
joachim-nshould be: alias isinstalled="apt-cache policy"12:38
Seveasjoachim-n, alias foo="ls -al 'something with spaces'"12:38
joachim-nok thanks :)12:38
elyoenaithanx a lot I'll have a look12:39
PygiSeveaas: huh :/ I'd rather stick to "regular" languages12:39
Seveass_spiff, applications -> system tools -> menu editor12:39
elyoenaiPuMpErNiCkLe, thanx a lot I'll have a look12:39
SeveasPygi, /me too12:39
Seveasbut it's fun to know about them12:39
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UncleDSeveas, are you using dapper?12:39
s_spiffok12:39
SeveasUncleD, not yet12:40
nikolwho is the best dvd-player, mp3 player and mpg,avi player ???12:40
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renedoxvlc12:40
renedoxvideolan.org12:40
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Seveasxine*12:41
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noakiHi! Can somebody help me to solve a problem with my ati driver?12:41
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alvintnoaki: maybe12:41
Seveas!tell noaki about somebody12:41
Seveas!tell noaki about someone12:41
s_spiffSeveas, but even in the menu editor i cant see the program12:41
noakiyes12:41
noakiso..12:41
nikolseveas where i can find the plugins for xine?12:41
s_spiffin installed via synaptic, so i don't exactly know where it got installed12:42
Seveass_spiff, bad luck then, you need to create the .desktop file yourself12:42
Seveas(or just run it from the terminal12:42
Seveas)12:42
noakii loaded new kernel headers and after doing step by step of a tutorial i configured the xorg.conf with an auto script12:42
s_spiffok12:42
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noakithen i had to check the Xorg.0.log for errors12:42
noakiand i found an fglrx error12:42
noaki(EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work12:42
s_spiffSeveas, when we install a program, where is it installed as such?12:43
Seveass_spiff, all over the system12:43
Seveass_spiff, linux uses functional folders, not per-program folders12:43
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Seveasie: /usr/share/applications contains all menu entries, /usr/lib all libraries and /usr/bin all executables and so on...12:43
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s_spiffhmmm12:44
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s_spiff i used 'Locate' command, but can't find it..12:44
renedoxuptime12:44
renedox 00:45:00 up 1 day,  9:20,  2 users,  load average: 0.19, 0.49, 0.5812:44
Seveass_spiff, the locate database is only updated daily12:44
thoreauputic_s_spiff: try  dpkg -L <packagename>12:45
Seveass_spiff, try: dpkg -L $packagename12:45
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Seveas!lart thoreauputic12:45
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thoreauputic_Seveas: here i got in ahead : by one second ;)12:45
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blue-frogs_spiff, look in synaptic at the installed files tab, it will tell you what it installed and where12:46
alvintnoaki: the only thing you should need to do is install the 'xorg-driver-fglrx' package in synaptic and change the 'Driver' reference in your 'xorg.conf'  to 'fglrx'. did you try that?12:46
s_spiffachha ok..12:47
alvintnoaki: you may also want to verify the appropriate 'linux-restricted-modules' package for your kernel is installed (it should be).12:47
noakino i will try12:47
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noakialvint: but how to change the 'driver reference' ?12:48
renedoxdoes anyone here run k3b and is able to help me with it?12:48
phos-phoros"sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx ; fglrxconfig" works to?12:48
noakialvint: sorry i started using ubuntu today :)12:48
s_spiffblue-frog, where is the Installed Files tab?12:48
s_spiff cant c it12:48
alvintnoaki: are you using Breezy or Dapper?12:49
phos-phorosnoaki, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:49
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noakialvint: breezy12:49
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blue-frogs_spiff, right click on installed package > properties12:50
nikolwhen i try to install a package i got the error about gcc.. what i must to do?12:51
alvintnoaki: in file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf', go to the section that starts with: Section "Device"12:51
nikolgcc=no c=no and something about compiler12:52
phos-phorosnikol, sudo apt-get install build-essential12:52
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s_spiffblue-frog .. ok i sound retarded..but i cant find installed packages it self12:52
alvintnoaki: under that, change the line that starts with 'Device' to read 'Device "fglrx"'...12:52
noakiok i now install xorg-driver-fglrx in synaptic12:52
blue-frogs_spiff, synaptic?12:53
Seveas!tell nikol about compiling12:53
noakithen i will change that line12:53
ludiis this the latest ubuntu ubuntu-5.10-install-i38612:53
ludiis there an i686 version?12:53
thoreauputic_ludi: no12:53
ludino to latest or no to i68612:53
alvintnoaki:  CORRECTION the line that starts with DRIVER to DRIVER "fglrx"12:53
thoreauputic_no to i68612:53
s_spiffyeah12:53
noakialvint: ok i will do... but in that in the xorg.conf and not in the logfile, of course ?12:54
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noaki*but that12:55
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alvintnoaki: also for breezy, you may need to comment out the line that reads 'Load "Int10"' under 'Section "Module"'12:55
nikolseveas: need i internet connection for that???12:55
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lowman62g'mornin techsupport room :)12:55
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thegladiatorkde 3.5 is not stable ?12:55
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Seveasnikol, yes...12:55
thegladiatortestig state ?12:55
nikolseveas: but i have not... a12:56
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thegladiatordoes anyone know if kde 3.5 is stable or not ?12:57
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renedoxdoes anyone here run k3b and is able to help me with it?12:57
thegladiatori already see kde 4.0 at kde-looks site , but kde 3.5 looks buggy12:57
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nikolwhat i must download now and install later to fix it???12:57
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Seveasnikol, ubuntu is not the best distro to use without internet connection I'm afraid12:57
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thoreauputic_renedox: tell us the problem12:57
alvintnoaki: yes in xorg.conf12:57
renedoxum..12:57
noakialvint: is it the line Driver "vga" which i should change to Driver "flgrx" ?12:57
renedoxwhen I first started k3b, it told me I needed something to run as root12:57
alvintnoaki: yes12:58
renedoxbut, i've forgotten what it is12:58
alexandreHi guys! How can I tell how much free space I've got left on a mounted floppy disk?12:58
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s_spiffbrb12:58
renedoxat the moment, I'm trying to burn something to a DVD12:58
thoreauputic_renedox: did you run k3b setup ?12:58
Gunfusdoes anyone know if can I suspend/standby my computer..12:58
renedoxk3b setup?12:58
mwealexandre: df12:58
bakwalhey guys, a little help with kubuntu  here please?12:58
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thoreauputic_renedox: I don't have it here atm, but there's a setup option in the menus12:59
renedoxwhere do I run k3b setup?12:59
renedoxoh ok12:59
lowman62df -h12:59
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alvintnoaki: first ensure the package 'xorg-driver-fglrx' is installed and also the right 'linux-restricted-modules' for your kernel12:59
phos-phoros?12:59
alexandremwe: great, thanks!12:59
mwebakwal: ask away but maybe they know more at #kubuntu12:59
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Gunfushow can I suspend/standby my computer..01:00
renedoxthe md5 check is taking ages...01:00
thoreauputic_renedox: settings - k3b setup01:00
alvintnoaki: also remember to comment out the 'Load "int10"' line.01:00
noakialvint: i installed 'xorg-driver-fglrx'01:00
bakwali just installed kubuntu (after downloading the latest)  i was able to install it without any problems. but i cant change settings. it says i must be in root level to perform changes. But it didnt require me any password for root during installation, what can I do?01:00
noakialvint: how to check wether the 'linux-restricted-modules' is installed?01:00
renedoxthoreauputic_: cool, thanks, i'll check it once k3b is finished01:00
alexandrelowman62: even better with the human readable sizes! ;-)01:00
mwebakwal: use sudo01:00
alvintnoaki: search for it in synaptic01:00
mwe!tell bakwal about rootsudo01:01
renedoxthoreauputic_: um.. asks me for a password...01:01
lowman62alexandre: I thought so to I personally use a script ;)01:01
noakialvint: oh ok i should have known that :)01:01
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thoreauputic_renedox: your user password01:01
renedoxok01:01
bakwalmwe: how do i use sudo? i just type on terminal:  sudo01:01
Gunfusdoes anyone where I can ask about standby/shutdown/suspend..?01:01
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mwebakwal: read /msg from ubotu01:01
alvintnoaki: if you previously modified your 'xorg.conf' make sure you revert those changes01:01
thoreauputic_!tell bakwal about sudo01:01
renedoxthoreauputic_: right, so what do I do there?01:02
SeicherlBoBhi there! My syslog is exploding cause i get millions of pptp anon log-errors about "disduplicate or old packet xxxxx (expecting yyyyy)" Whats happening there?!01:02
j2daoshanyone know if it is possible to use the cut command to cut 2 seprate fields from the who -uH command? i want to cut the name and the pid fields and drop them into a seprate field for a script im working on01:02
mwebakwal: sudo <command> followed by your user password01:02
thoreauputic_renedox: erm - foolow the directions? I haven't done it for ages...01:02
thoreauputic_*follow01:02
renedoxthere are no instructions01:02
SeicherlBoBI googled for the error and all i found was a couple of unanswered question and some advice i don't understand - something about LCP config. can anybody help me with that?01:02
alvintnoaki: make sure the restricted modules version matches the kernel version you boot with01:03
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bakwalmwe  i want to enable the network adapters.01:03
noakialvint: ok i found it ... it is the right version01:03
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mwebakwal: yes01:03
lowman62j2daosh: what is the script that are working on do?01:03
renedoxthoreauputic_: it's just for setting permissions or something01:03
mwebakwal: go ahead01:03
noakialvint: now i'll comment out that 'Load "int10' line01:03
mwebakwal: I don't use gnome but I believe there's a gui to do it somewhere in the menus01:04
j2daoshlog all users currently on when the script runs, match against user running the script and if other users dont match, kill them01:04
pornsurferNg, i am having problems recovering from my error. i cannot boot kernel 2.6.12-10-386   I can boot to 2.6.12-8-386 though and i see the nvidia splash screen. the only errors i could pick out were: failed to load the nvidia kernel module, and : fatal server error: no screens found .  i tried to reconfigure 4 times without success :(01:04
thoreauputic_renedox: yes, well among other things I think cdrecord has to run suid root01:04
thoreauputic_renedox: but that's from memory01:04
alvintnoaki: yup. once you're up and running you can see if it works with it01:04
renedoxthoreauputic_: hang on, i'll give you a screen shot01:04
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Ngpornsurfer: hmm, that would suggest you are missing the restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386 package01:04
j2daoshso i want to cut the name and pid but i need them on the same line in the output file the script runs on01:04
pornsurferNg, any way i can undo my error?01:05
lowman62j2daosh: I think there is a ready made script for that...want me to check for you?01:05
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renedoxthoreauputic_: http://60.234.155.87/~cheng/screenshots/Screenshot-1.png01:05
renedoxthoreauputic_: sorry for the slow connection :|01:05
blue-frogj2daosh, who -uH | awk '{print $1" " $3}'  for example01:05
thoreauputic_renedox: I'm on dialup anyway :)01:05
Ngpornsurfer: try installing that package and see if that helps01:05
j2daoshim sure there is... but since im trying to learn/scripting and programming i wanna see what i can do01:06
renedoxthoreauputic_: oh ok :)01:06
j2daoshawk?01:06
pornsurferNg, can i install from here? i am booted into 2.6.12-8-38601:06
Ngpornsurfer: yep01:06
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lowman62j2daosh: oh okay i understand that fully...good luck on that ;) <--is a programmer01:06
pornsurferNg, ok i will try , thanks a million !!01:06
mwerenedox: are you on dialup or something? I couldn't resist following the link to the screenshot01:07
Ngj2daosh: that does sound a bit like a job for awk, yeah :)01:07
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renedoxmwe: no, we have slow upload speeds in NZ (128)01:07
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noakialvint: sorry but theres another problem... i looked for that line but this line couldn't be found01:07
mwerenedox: all right01:07
renedoxmwe: :)01:08
j2daoshlol but i dont know awk... but thats ok i suppose... ill need to learn it anyway... and its interchangeable with perl right?01:08
alvintnoaki: it's there under 'Section "Module"'01:08
pornsurferNg, which version do i need? there are many01:08
thoreauputic_renedox: I have -rwsr-xr--  1 root cdrom 323508 2005-09-13 23:10 /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap  ( your's appears not to be set suid )01:08
jahow do I hibernate my laptop from the commandline (or fluxbox)?01:08
pornsurferNg, oops ...disregard01:08
lowman62j2daosh: man awk01:08
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Gunfusdoes anyone where I can ask about standby/shutdown/suspend..?01:08
j2daosh:) thank you01:09
j2daoshbrb01:09
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mweGunfus: ask here01:09
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thoreauputic_renedox: also mine is group cdrom, yours appears to be root01:10
renedoxthoreauputic_: um... how do I change it...?01:10
GunfusI have.. but noone has answered.. so I figure that noone knew...in anycase.. how can I  standby/shutdown/suspend..?01:10
pornsurferNg, i believe i have successfully installed the  restricted modules for 2.6.12-10-386.    is there anythhing i have to do before i reboot?01:10
bakwali think im still stuck with my problem01:11
sudharshSystem > Logout > Hibrenate01:11
Ngpornsurfer: I dont think so :)01:11
noakialvint: i wrote a personal message or however u call this how u wrote to me some time ago01:11
Gunfussudharsh, I don't have that options..01:11
bakwalwhen i go to system settings>network settings (KUBUNTU) it says your flatform is not supported, then gives me a list to chose from. Whats Next?01:11
pornsurfer<---- crosses fingers :)-01:11
sudharsh...01:11
Gunfussudharsh, is there a way to do it from inside the desktop..?01:11
lowman62<--plugs ears01:12
sudharshGunfus i m telling this within the desktop01:12
alvintnoaki: hmm didn't get it...01:12
thoreauputic_renedox: sudo chown root:cdrom /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap && sudo  chmod 4754 /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap   <-- should do it01:12
Gunfusthen I totally don't have that option.. I only see shutdown01:12
jasudharsh: is there a way to hibernate from the fluxbox WM?01:12
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Gunfussudharsh, then I totally don't have that option.. I only see shutdown01:12
sudharshja: sorry mate dunno01:12
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sudharshGunfus: Did ur monitor get detected properly01:13
Gunfusmy monitor yes01:13
mwebakwal: ask in the channel please01:13
Gunfussudharsh, yes it did..01:13
renedoxthoreauputic_: 4754? thought there were only three numbers01:13
SeicherlBoBhi there! My syslog is exploding cause i get millions of pptp anon log-errors about "disduplicate or old packet xxxxx (expecting yyyyy)" Whats happening there?!01:13
SeicherlBoBI googled for the error and all i found was a couple of unanswered question and some advice i don't understand - something about LCP config. can anybody help me with that?01:13
sudharshno problems...there?01:13
noakialvint: i get yours ... hm then i'll write it here01:13
jasudharsh: thanks, I guess I'll have to use GNOME then01:13
bakwalwhen i go to system settings>network settings (KUBUNTU) it says your flatform is not supported, then gives me a list to chose from. Whats Next?01:13
thoreauputic_renedox: the 4 is for suid01:13
renedoxah.. ic01:13
noakiSection "Module"01:13
noaki# This loads the DBE extension module.01:13
noaki    Load        "dbe"  # Double buffer extension01:13
noaki# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables01:13
noaki# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.01:13
noaki    SubSection  "extmod"01:13
noaki      Option    "omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension01:13
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noaki    EndSubSection01:14
noaki# This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules01:14
sudharshcheck the xorg.conf for anomalies01:14
noaki    Load        "type1"01:14
noaki    Load        "freetype"01:14
noaki# This loads the GLX module01:14
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noaki    Load        "glx"   # libglx.a01:14
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noaki    Load        "dri"   # libdri.a01:14
noakiEndSection01:14
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Gunfusnoaki, use paste bin01:14
rambo3nice01:14
sudharshnoaki: paste this output in pastebin01:14
azatothhi!01:14
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Gunfussudharsh, so what else can I do to enable the standby??01:15
noakisudharsch & gunfus: what? sorry i don't understand what you mean or how to do01:15
sudharshwhat kinda card do u use01:15
Gunfussudharsh, for the video card..?!01:15
sudharshyeah..sry01:15
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thoreauputic_!paste01:16
ubotupaste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text01:16
alvintnoaki: if you modified your 'xorg.conf' previously you should change it back. but it may work as is.01:16
renedoxthoreauputic_: I don't get what the problem is01:16
renedoxthoreauputic_: I have a DVD +- reader/writer01:16
renedoxthoreauputic_: thought every kind of DVD can be written on01:16
renedoxthoreauputic_: + or -01:16
thoreauputic_renedox: it looks like your k3b wasn't set up right01:16
thoreauputic_renedox: you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure k3b01:17
noakialvint: i have a backup of the xorg.conf, but i made it before installing the driver01:17
Zedmanrenedox: try modpobe sg01:17
jendaNg: OK, I did the dist-upgrade, and I got all zeros01:17
lowman62renedox: your solution may be here http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/chap10.php01:17
alvintnoaki: that's even better. just make those 2 changes to the backup01:17
blue-frogrenedox, isn't sudo k3b solving your pb?01:17
Ngjenda: sounds like it's working then, was that it or was there another error to solve (I forgot, sorry)01:18
noakialvint: ok i'll do01:18
Gunfussudharsh, my video is a NVIDIA GeForce 660001:18
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renedoxsudo k3b>01:18
renedoxwhy would I run k3b as root?01:18
sudharshdid u install the drivers01:18
thoreauputic_blue-frog: sudo k3b is a bad idea - it can lock up your ~/.ICEauthority01:18
renedoxor need to01:18
Gunfussudharsh, It got detected automaticly01:18
sudharshsupplied by ur vendor01:18
jendaNg: the problem is that my kernel, according to uname -r, is 2.6.12-9, not -1001:18
sudharshok...now fire up synaptic01:19
Gunfussudharsh, I didn't even check if they had linux drivers..01:19
blue-frogrenedox, so u will know if it's a permission pb01:19
Ngjenda: ah yes01:19
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Gunfussudharsh, okay01:19
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sudharshwell nvidia provide thier own drivers01:19
jendaNg: ah no...01:19
sudharshmight as well check that01:19
thoreauputic_blue-frog: renedox  kdesu k3b is a safer option01:19
Gunfussudharsh, okay so launch synaptic and..?!01:20
renedoxthoreauputic_: kdesu?01:20
blue-frogthoreauputic, am using gnome...01:20
noakialvint: How can i delete the xorg.conf01:20
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blue-frogthoreauputic, and i don't have any pb with k3b...01:20
sudharshsearch for nvidia01:20
thoreauputic_renedox: just type kdesu k3b -  it should ask for a password01:20
noakialvint: i have to be root - how can i do that over terminal01:21
thoreauputic_blue-frog: I know - but you were suggesting sudo k3b, which isn't a good idea :)01:21
renedoxI get the following error:01:21
renedoxcdrecord = 2.6.801:21
renedoxSince Linux kernel 2.6.8 cdrecord Solution: Use K3bSetup to solve this problem01:21
jawhen I logout of GNOME (running in gdm) I have the option of hibernating my laptop but when I use KDE (running on kdm) I only have the option to end current session, reboot or shutdown.  How can I hibernate from KDE?01:21
noakialvint: i want to learn a bit how to use it01:21
sudharshu'll need to install nvidia-glx01:21
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thoreauputic_renedox: which is where we came in - run k3bsetup01:21
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renedoxthoreauputic_: yeah, but it only says use k3bsetup01:22
Gunfussudharsh, okay.. marked for install as well as nvidia-settings01:22
renedoxdoesn't tell exactly what to do :|01:22
Ngjenda: have you done a "sudo apt-get update" recently? If not, do that and then see if "apt-cache search 2.6.12-10" returns anything01:22
sudharshk install the stuff01:22
sudharshshould work01:22
noakialvint: what is the command to delete a file01:22
thoreauputic_renedox: did you try   sudo dpkg-reconfigure k3b  ?01:22
sudharshrm01:22
lowman62noaki: Applications>System Tools> Run as different user type in gnome-terminal or whatever terminal you use and you are root voila!01:22
UncleDthoreauputic_: I'm sshd into my ubuntu box and occasionally I get "randomly" disconnected. Sometimes while Idle for 10 minutes, other times while MID-TYPING something. Any idea whats going on?01:23
Gunfussudharsh, COOL! MAN!! THANKS A LOT!!01:23
renedoxthoreauputic_: yip01:23
sudharshit worked?01:23
renedoxthoreauputic_: is any output meant to show? because I didn't get anything01:23
Gunfussudharsh, yes it works, Now I see the option.. I don't understand what the video card has to do with the hybernate or any of those.. but sure01:23
UncleDthoreauputic_: Then, when I log back in, my ttypid is still alive, like, "im still connected".. I don't get it.01:23
sudharshwell it does...01:23
thoreauputic_renedox: hmm - sorry I think I'm out of ideas - the only other thing I can think of is to purge k3b and reinstall it01:24
sudharshnvidia provide their own drivers01:24
lowman62noaki: rm <filename>01:24
thoreauputic_UncleD: weird :|01:24
sudharshlucky u dont hav an ati01:24
renedoxthoreauputic_: last time I did that, I had to reinstall :(01:24
Gunfussudharsh, I figure you have an ATI.. ;P.. okay.. well thanks for that help01:24
sudharshno i dont ,....i hav an SiS :O01:25
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Gunfussudharsh, one last question.. then.. while we were doing this.. I burned a CD of the utils froM intel for linux..01:25
thoreauputic_renedox:  sudo apt-get remove --purge k3b && sudo apt-get install k3b  <-- should be safe I think01:25
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renedoxthoreauputic_: cool01:25
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sudharshk Gnufus check the output of glxinfo and see if direct rendering is enabled01:26
trincamckeegood morning/evening01:26
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Steve|does anyone here have a "skymaster ethernet adapter"01:26
noakilowman62: thank you01:26
sudharshk...yes01:26
Steve|10/10001:26
lowman62noaki: yw :)01:26
thoreauputic_renedox: I think you should get a setup on first run after reinstalling, from memory01:26
Steve|100/10 sorry01:26
Gunfussudharsh, but I can't execute anything out of the new burned CD because they are all owned by root, even if I do a sudo ./autorun.sh it doesn't work it says "sudo: unable toe xecute ./autorun: permission denied"01:26
renedoxthoreauputic_: oh ok01:26
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trincamckeedoes someone knows where can i find the smoke screensaver?01:26
noakilowman62: i only know DOS command 'del' ;-)01:26
sudharshinclude sudo sh ./<whatever>01:27
renedoxthoreauputic_: I just restarted k3b, see if that helps, because of the things I've been asked to do01:27
jendaNg: OK. Found tons of stuff for -10, but a sudo apt-get upgrade won't install anything...01:27
Gunfussudharsh, okay.. direct rendering is not enabled01:27
trincamckeei had this screensaver in warty and hoary, but in breezy i think its not installed01:27
lowman62noaki: once upon a time I was in same pair of shoes. :)01:27
sudharshhmmm...k then reboot to enable it...thats all01:27
Zedmanrenedox: burning cd's is working on your machine, isn't it? I had the problem, that I can't burn cd, because there was an kernel module that wasn't loaded.01:27
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thoreauputic_renedox: worth a shot - but the command I gave you should work OK if you need it01:27
mweGunfus: mount it with right options and users will be able to execute as well01:27
renedoxZedman: yeah, it works, but I think it might be this kind of DVD01:28
renedoxthoreauputic_: yeah, I've saved it :)01:28
sudharshwell i thught u would get the hibernate options only after u reboot01:28
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sudharshbut in ur case it cam rite away01:28
Gunfussudharsh, how about Hybernating.. ;P.. I know it doesn't work.. I am just happy the options is there..01:28
renedoxZedman: I can burn other DVDs and CDs just fine, I think it's just this brand01:28
Gunfusmwe, okay.. I will unmount and mount it again01:28
sudharshwell u gotta reboot anyway01:28
Zedmanrenedox, ok, thats fine. :)01:29
mweGunfus: use -o umask=022201:29
renedoxZedman: :)01:29
sudharshGunfs u must include the 'sh' after sudo01:29
thoreauputic_renedox: if that's the case, then why mess with what works? Just use another dvd type ...01:29
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mweGunfus: then you should be able to execute without sudo or sh01:30
renedoxthoreauputic_: hm.. yeah, good point01:30
j2daoshok... awk didn't work... it expected a bunch of other stuff01:30
sudharshmwe..thanx i didnt know that01:30
renedoxanyone want 25 blank DVDs?01:30
renedoxlol01:30
sudharshcount me in01:30
j2daoshdual layer?01:30
j2daoshlol01:30
thoreauputic_renedox: "If it ain't broke... " you know the rest ;)01:30
renedoxhaha01:30
renedoxno01:30
renedoxthoreauputic_: yeah...01:30
aeon17xI wish I had a burner. :(01:30
renedoxthoreauputic_: just hope I haven't "fixed" it :|01:31
j2daoshi wish mine was recognized by ubuntu01:31
lowman62j2daosh: you would have to use it within a testing statement...like an "if" type statement01:31
thoreauputic_renedox: if you have "fixed" it - do the purge and reinstall01:31
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thoreauputic_for k3b01:31
noakialvint: ok i commented out that load line and changed the driver part01:31
j2daoshreally? crap... i dont know that much yet....01:31
renedoxthoreauputic_: yeah01:31
josephwhy does ubuntu not ask to set root password during installation?01:31
thoreauputic_!root01:31
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.01:31
noakialvint: can i know just reboot and everything works?01:31
j2daoshjos... because its disabled by default01:31
renedoxthoreauputic_: but didn't I change permissions on some files too?01:31
bakwalERROR: The module: USERS & GROUPS could not be loaded....  (I cant add new users to kubuntu)  how do i fix it?01:32
thoreauputic_renedox: yes, but that shouldn't break it01:32
renedoxthoreauputic_: cool :)01:32
lowman62j2daosh: kind of like if this do this if that do that type statement then have a fall back else do this01:32
sudharshbakwal: try rebooting01:32
Ngjenda: does "uname -a" exactly for the kernel version? 2.6.12-9-386?01:32
bakwalthanks sudharsh ill try01:32
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j2daoshhmm... looks like ill have to read somemore before i make this script01:33
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j2daoshok... ill be back in a few hours and let you know how it turned out01:33
Gunfusmwe, you mean for mouting the CD.. (sorry my wife called me)01:33
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j2daoshthanks for thelp help so far... dont run off though01:33
j2daoshlol01:33
lowman62j2daosh: careful...test test test...can cause damage real easy01:33
Gunfussudharsh, Thanks all the help man.. I really appreciate it01:33
sudharshGunfus....check the permissions...and see whtr its executable01:34
ishohai friend..i want sex01:34
j2daoshoh i know... i just have to remember now to kill sys and hal and other user processes01:34
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lowman62;)01:34
josephwhen I first login to ubuntu, in the upper-right corner there is a message "There are 39 updates available".  When I click on this icon, a prompt asks me for the root password.  However, when I installed ubuntu it never asked me to set the root password.  Therefore, how am I going to proceed?01:34
j2daoshjos01:34
Gunfussudharsh, it is executable..01:34
jendaNg: 2.6.12-9-38601:34
j2daosh!root01:34
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.01:34
ccookejoseph: it's asking for your own password, not the root password01:34
theinejoseph, it asks you for your user password01:34
sudharshwell is it executable by you01:35
j2daoshjos... look at that link01:35
theinejoseph, just type in that01:35
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lowman62joseph what is the password you used to login to your profile ...that is the one it is asking for01:35
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Gunfusmwe, you meant to use that option "-o umask=0222" when mouting..?01:35
josephccooke: theine: so I never get to set the root password?01:35
ishojoin me..to sexs party01:35
pornsurferNg, sorry to keep bugging you!   I still cant boot 2.6.12-10-386    i THINK i got the required restricted libraries and tried to reconfigure x but no luck. Any ideas how i should proceed?01:35
theine!sudo01:35
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.01:35
Ngjenda: ok, try "sudo apt-get install linux-386" - does that pull in the 2.6.12-10 ones?01:35
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theinejoseph, what ubotu said...01:35
thoreauputicjoseph: did you read the URL ubotu posted?01:35
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ccookejoseph: no,not by default. You can if you have a reason for it. Otherwise, everything uses sudo or a graphical sudo01:35
Ngpornsurfer: erk, well you could change the graphics driver from "nvidia" to "nv" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf - it's not an ideal solution but at least it'll get you running 2.6.12-10 and maybe we can figure out what's going on01:36
jendaNg: newest version... gotta be in my sources.list - will check01:36
hejuxls01:36
hejuxclear01:36
sudharshpornsurfer: did u install nvidia-glx01:36
jendaNg: OK, I think I'm missing the main repos :)01:37
hejuxhi, is there a room to flooding ?01:37
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jendahejux; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:37
pornsurferNg, i tried that, as well as other things while reconfiguring , nothing worked. :( is there a way to just completely undo what i have done and start again?01:37
thoreauputichejux: #flood01:37
dutchhejux: #flood01:37
josephccooke: or I have to use Run and enter gksudo01:37
pornsurfersudharsh, i dont think so, its necessary?01:37
Ngjenda: that might explain it ;)01:37
mweGunfus: well mount /media/cdrom as user should be sufficient01:37
sudharshwell it solved the problem for Gunfus01:37
pornsurfersudharsh , i remember seeing it checked while reconfiguring x , maybe i need a different version ?01:38
mweGunfus: At second thought I'm not sure umask works for cds01:38
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sudharshno dats different01:38
Gunfusmwe, okay.. so just mount the CD as the user instead of root01:38
sudharshcheck if its installed in synaptic01:38
mweGunfus: yeah01:38
ccookejoseph: Applications -> System Tools -> Run as different user01:38
Ngpornsurfer: hmm, not easily. I'm really quite surprised that didn't work though, if the config works on 2.6.12-8 and the modules for -10 are available then it should still all Just Work :/01:39
mweGunfus: provied it's in fstab and has option user in there01:39
jendaNg: No, I have all of what source-o-matic gives...01:39
mweGunfus: should be by default I think01:39
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pornsurferNg, figures, i have broken it beyond repair or reason :)01:39
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Gunfusmwe, I was just checking my fstab and it seems to be there... so I guess automount is mounting the cdrom as soon as I put it in01:39
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thoreauputicjenda: did you  sudo apt-get update ?01:39
sudharshGunfus give the long ls in the flood01:40
sudharshi mean in #flood01:40
jack_Helloo! I have some pretty out dated versions of software on my system.. How can I uodate these,, for example Banshee and GTK-Gnutella are not quite current..01:40
mweGunfus: yeah01:40
sudharshjack_ apt-get update and u r rokin01:40
jendathoreauputic: about three gazillion times...01:40
Gunfusmwe, i tried mounting it as a user.. it still mounts as root..01:40
thoreauputicjenda: OK :)01:40
Gunfussudharsh, what.. where ks in the flood..?01:40
Ngjenda: the only other thing I can think of is that it is installed, but GRUB isn't showing/selecting it, does "dpkg -l | grep 2.6.12" show any -10 stuff? If it does then reboot and hit Escape when grub starts so you can see its menu01:40
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Gunfussudharsh, ls in the flood..?01:40
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pornsurferNg, sudharsh , there are 4 avilable things for nvidia-glx   ,  how do i know which i need?01:41
Gunfussudharsh, what is the flood01:41
sudharshflood is another channel01:41
omerhi guys01:41
thoreauputicGunfus:  /join #flood01:41
Gunfussudharsh, ohh okay.. hehe01:41
Ngpornsurfer: unless you have a very old nvidia card you want "nvidia-glx". the -dev ones are for compiling01:41
omeri want to build debian ubuntu on to my winxp with vmware workstation so which one i prefer live cd or install cd?01:41
sudharshpornsurfer: select evrythin: jus make sure it doesnt remove anythin imp01:41
jack_sudharsh, yes.. but that won't help.. I really would like GTK-Gnutella to be more current.. I have universe and multiverse and all..01:41
pornsurferNg, i have ti440001:41
Steve|will ubuntu auto detect a hardware and install it for me?01:41
Gunfussudharsh, so you want the ls.. of the cdrom..?!01:41
omeri want to build debian ubuntu on to my winxp with vmware workstation so which one i prefer live cd or install cd?01:41
jendaNg: darn... I just didn't reboot yet :). That's the thing. Thanks a bunch.01:42
sudharshyes01:42
pornsurfersudharsh, ok i will try. thanks !!01:42
thoreauputicSteve|: if it is supported01:42
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theineomer, install cd01:42
mweGunfus: sudo mount -o uid=1000 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom then if your uid 100001:42
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pornsurferNg, is ti4400 an "very old" card??01:42
omerinstall cd ok,my pc is x8601:42
mweGunfus: "id" will show01:42
thoreauputicSteve|: most lan cards (nics) are well supported01:43
Ngpornsurfer: no, I think that should work with the nvidia-glx package01:43
pornsurferNg , ok thanx01:43
thoreauputicSteve|: I don't know particular ones :)01:43
Steve|ho :|01:43
Steve|thoreauputic: so if i just put in this lan card, it will install it automatically without me having to do anything?01:43
Steve|if it is supported that is01:43
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thoreauputicSteve|: easiest way is to try it, I guess :) chances are it willbe fine01:43
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Steve|okey dokey01:44
josephis it ok to use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:44
Steve|thanks :)01:44
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mweGunfus: however when my cd is mounted as root it still gives everyone permission to execute from it01:44
theinejoseph,  very ok :)01:44
thoreauputicjoseph: sure - that's the right way to reconfigre X01:44
thoreauputic*reconfigure01:44
mweGunfus: what file system is it?01:44
josephwasn't sure if there was an ubuntu-specific GUI method or something else01:44
omerexcuse me theine, are you sure ?i am new in ubuntu so i want to be sure01:44
pornsurferNg, when reconfiguring X it asks about the bus location...?   it says PCI 1.0.0   is this right for agp card?01:44
theineomer, that you should use the install CD to install Ubuntu under Vmware? Yes01:45
thoreauputicjoseph: don't forget to use sudo in front of that command01:45
Gunfusmwe, iso966001:45
omeryes i will use vmware01:45
theineomer, than use the install CD.01:45
renedoxNow listening to: Bob Carlisle - Butterfly kisses01:45
josephI find a flaw with the sudo method.  since user does not have root access, the Tab completion fails.01:46
omerok thanx theine01:46
thoreauputicjoseph: in ~/.bashrc, uncomment programmable completion01:46
theinejoseph, try "source /etc/bash_completion"01:46
mweGunfus: I don't know why it's not mounted with permissions for everyone to execute. is is here. however I think the -o uid= will work01:46
rambo3no it doesnt01:46
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limguohong91Hi, How do i start running wine?01:47
theinejoseph, you might wanna uncomment that line in your ~/.bashrc01:47
mwelimguohong91: type wine notepad.exe for example01:47
pornsurferanybody............when reconfiguring X it asks about the bus location...?   it says PCI 1.0.0   is this right for agp card?01:47
limguohong91Type it at where?01:47
mwelimguohong91: in a terminal01:48
theinejoseph, yeah, what thoreauputic said...01:48
thoreauputictheine: the lines are there in ,bashrc - just a question of removing the #01:48
limguohong91mwe : Ok :) I will try it :)01:48
theinethoreauputic, I know01:48
thoreauputictheine: OK :)01:48
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theinethoreauputic, that's why I said `uncomment that line' :)01:48
limguohong91mwe: It gave me $ /usr/local/bin/winecfg01:48
sudharshpornsurfer...jus see what happens01:49
mwelimguohong91: yes?01:49
limguohong91mwe: It gave me Base: Wine Command not found.01:49
thoreauputictheine: actually it is an if statement ( 3 lines ) to be pedantic :)01:49
mwelimguohong91: it's wine. not Wine01:49
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mwelimguohong91: watch the caps01:49
theinethoreauputic, you're right01:49
limguohong91mew: it is still the same thing01:49
Gunfusmwe.. oky.. I will give that a try in a copuple of sec01:50
limguohong91bash: wine : command not found01:50
mwelimguohong91: have you installed wine?01:50
sudharshinstalled it? winelib01:50
pornsurfersudharsh, see what happens how? after reinstalling nvidia-glx ??01:50
limguohong91Yes through Synaptic01:50
limguohong91I just install it and I can use it right?01:50
sudharshu know the pci*** stuff01:50
sudharshjus proceed01:50
\shlimguohong91: dapper or breezy?01:50
limguohong91Breezy01:50
pornsurfersudharsh , i tried it with the default value and had no joy.  thats why i was asking if 1.0.0 is the correct bus location for agp cards01:51
sudharshlimguohong...try /usr/bin/wine01:51
\shlimguohong91: sudo apt-get install wine...and you should have wine 0.0.20050725 or something like this01:51
theineIs anybody working on a Qt front end to NetworkManager?01:51
sudharshi dont hv agp cards...:(01:51
mwelimguohong91: it shouldn't say command not found at least. I think you need to run winecfg though01:51
sudharshsorry i dunno01:51
\shmwe: in the new wine versions there is no winecfg anymore01:51
limguohong91Ok Thanks for the 3 guiys who help me I will have a shot at it.01:51
pornsurfersudharsh, cool, thanks anyway01:51
mwe\sh: oh01:52
\shmwe: it's configuring when during its first run01:52
mwe\sh: so you just run wine then?01:52
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\shwell...anyways..wait for the security update of wine for breezy...my security patch is waiting for pittis ok to upload01:52
\shmwe: yes...wine <foobar.exe<01:52
joachim-nI'm trying to install IEs4Linux, but I get a timeout whenthe script downloads from MS01:53
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BradMunt dah niclcht nien bragachastar01:53
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joachim-n> Connecting to activex.microsoft.com|207.46.249.55|:80...01:53
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mwe\sh: all right01:53
BradMunt dah niclcht nien bragachastar01:53
theineBradM, word...01:53
\shthe upcoming security patch will fix the wmf issue of wine...brrr01:53
BradMhaha01:53
BradMi have no idea what im saying01:53
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josephI like spatial nautilus.  How do I set it that way.01:54
thoreauputic\sh: I heard the wmf vulnerability was "designed in" by MS - is that right?01:55
BradMMS01:55
BradM!01:55
ubotuBradM: I don't know, could you explain it?01:55
BradM!01:55
sudharshjoseph: go to Preferences > file management01:55
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\shthoreauputic: no clue...but it's funny that wine has the same problem...01:55
josephsudharsh: yes, and then?01:55
thoreauputicBradM: don't play with the bot please01:55
BradMbot = gay01:55
BradMi wasn't you fucknut01:55
BradMi just discovered it01:55
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\shthoreauputic: cedega doesn't have this issue because they were not implementing the wmf stuff somehow...01:55
BradMdamn01:55
sudharshjoseph: go to behaviour tab01:55
mwethoreauputic: designed in? how do you mean?01:55
BradMthoreauputic, i love you01:55
josephsudharsh: not seeing what I think I want to see in behaviour tab.01:56
sudharshwait mate01:56
josephk01:56
BradMerm01:56
BradMi thought wine came in the package manager01:56
sudharshuncheck th 'always open in browser windowa'01:56
josephsudharsh: does this make nautilus behave the way that it does in debian by default?01:58
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sudharshtry it01:58
limguohong91It gave me this when I use usr/bin/wine (wine: cannot open (null)01:58
limguohong91)01:58
josephwhy does not ubuntu have a home folder on desktop01:58
mwelimguohong91: you can't just run wine01:58
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sudharshjus drag it from Places01:58
mwelimguohong91: you need wine <some.exe>01:58
limguohong91mwe: do I have to type where is it?01:59
josephsudharsh:  I unchecked "always open in browser window" but it is still not spatial nautilus01:59
mwelimguohong91: where <some.exe> is an actual exe file01:59
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sudharshu must close any open nautilus windows and reopn it01:59
limguohong91mwe Ok :)01:59
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mwelimguohong91: try wine notepad.exe01:59
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pornsurferNg, here is a question... under the restricted libraries , there aer some for 386 and some for amd K7  , i have athlon 2800 non 64 bit. is the k7 the one i need?02:00
limguohong91mwe : Warning: Language 'en_SG' was not recognized, defaulting to 'en_US'.02:00
limguohong91Warning: Language 'en_SG' was not recognized, defaulting to 'en_US'.02:00
limguohong91Warning: Language 'en_SG' was not recognized, defaulting to 'en_US'.02:00
limguohong91Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.02:00
limguohong91Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system" is not accessible.02:00
limguohong91Warning: could not find DOS drive for current working directory '/home/limguohong91', starting in the Windows directory.02:00
Gunfusmwe, your technique did worked02:00
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josephhow do I reconfigure my system locale to use US-UTF-802:00
Gunfusmwe, THANK!02:00
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mwe\sh: do you know if it's somehow possible to change the default font size for wine? it's tiny here.02:01
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mweGunfus: the -o uid= ?02:01
\shmwe: sorry no..I'm packaging this stuff ... I'm not using it :)02:01
mwe\sh: ok02:01
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limguohong91mwe : It did not work......02:02
theinejoseph,  what is your current locale?02:02
\shmwe: or let me say it in other words: I don't need to use it, because I have everything on linux :)02:02
josephI don't know how to tell02:03
josephtheine: ^02:03
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pornsurfersudharsh, under the restricted nvidia libraries , there aer some for 386 and some for amd K7  , i have older athlon 2800 non 64 bit. is the k7 the one i need?02:03
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theinejoseph, try "echo ${LANG}"02:03
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sudharshgo for 386...dats safer02:03
viviersfpornsurfer, yes02:03
viviersfor02:03
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pornsurferOk, thanks all !!!02:03
josephtheine: en_US.UTF-802:03
josephthanks102:03
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theinejoseph, no problem02:04
josephnow how do I set it to spatial nautilus?02:04
pornsurferviviersf, you saying i need the k7?02:04
pornsurferoops , 38602:04
viviersfyou can use 386 or k702:04
viviersfwhat kernel you using ?02:04
duncanmi'm having some problems running Firefox 1.5 on Breezy02:04
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viviersfk7 or 386 ?02:04
duncanm./run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  9621 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}02:04
duncanm -- what's this about?02:04
duncanmi installed libstdc++ already02:04
pornsurfer2.6.12-10-38602:04
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viviersfpornsurfer, then use 386 drivers02:04
_jasonduncanm, don't run that.  Run firefox02:04
pornsurferviviersf, ok, thank you !02:05
mweduncanm: how did you install it?02:05
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duncanmmwe: i'm just running the binary tarball02:05
viviersfduncanm,02:05
viviersfyou are running the wrong executable02:05
viviersfdont run the .sh02:05
mweduncanm: yes. so you unpacked it and ran the firefox binary?02:06
duncanmmwe: yeah, which is a shell script02:06
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mweduncanm: right02:06
_jasonduncanm, see if './firefox' results in the same error02:06
sudharshduncanm check this out.....https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion02:06
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sudharshduncanm check this out.....https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion02:06
duncanmthat's what i'm doing02:06
duncanm_jason: i'm running ./firefox02:06
sudharsh:)02:06
thegladiatoropen office is a big mem hog ?  it takes long to load02:06
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mweduncanm: that's odd. check logs02:07
_jasonduncanm, are you running SCIM?02:07
jendathegladiator: yeah... but you can just leae the core open.02:07
duncanm_jason: i'm, 1.4, though02:07
jendaleave even02:07
thegladiatorjenda, how can I leave the core open ?02:07
sudharshthegladiator...thers oo quick starter02:07
thegladiatorsudharsh, where ?02:07
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thegladiator!oo02:08
josephhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/ ---> spatial nautilus ---> 0 results of about 7189 pages02:08
ubotuthegladiator: Wish i knew02:08
sudharshclick add to panel in panel02:08
thegladiator!ooepnoffice02:08
ubotuWish i knew, thegladiator02:08
_jasonduncanm, you may want to check if that is the problem if you can't think of anything else02:08
mwecan't you wait ten secons for it to start?02:08
sudharshu can add that to the panel02:08
lowman62duncanm: I just came in here ...are you installing version 1.5?02:08
thegladiatormwe, I could but what if every doc takes the same time02:08
duncanmlowman62: yeah02:08
thegladiator?02:09
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lowman62duncanm: there is a special way to install that ...hold on I have it for you02:09
duncanm_jason: i guess so, the scim in breezy is really botched02:09
lowman62duncanm: do this http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/45917/index.html02:09
sudharshthegladiator right click on the top panel02:09
duncanmlowman62: if you're talking about the wiki, that i know already, thanks02:09
thegladiatorsudharsh, ok and ?02:09
lowman62is not the wiki duncanm02:09
sudharshAdd to panel OO quick starter02:10
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thegladiatori am on kde02:10
thegladiatorits not there for kde?02:10
duncanmi fear the problem is with scim, though02:10
sudharshoops sorry.i dont use kde02:10
thegladiatornp.02:10
jendathegladiator: you can just close all the documents open and leave the blank window open.02:10
jenda!openoffice02:10
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, jenda02:10
sudharshthegladiator..anyways open up a terminal02:10
thegladiatorjenda, yes and?02:11
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jendathegladiator: that's it - if you just leave it open - it won't have to load every time.02:11
thegladiatoryes got you02:11
sudharshthegladiator....i remember seeing oo quick starter in synaptic02:11
thegladiatori shall check it out02:11
thegladiatorits a package ?02:12
sudharshtry that...my synaptic is now busy02:12
jendathegladiator: but if there's a better solution, then don't pay me any attention :)02:12
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josephI need information on how to get nautilus into spatial mode02:12
ninapinahi - where do i get a .deb for Firefox 1.5?02:12
sudharshjoseph: thats didnt work?02:12
josephno02:12
thegladiatorjenda, i can assess both mothods , so yoru opinion is valued02:12
sudharshjoseph: it works for me??02:13
thegladiatorsudharsh, how much does a 512 MB DDR cost in Ind ?02:13
sudharsh!!02:13
ubotu??02:13
jendathegladiator: alrighty (ATM, I'm looking to install the quick starter as well02:13
thegladiatorsudharsh, my mem is 25602:13
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sudharshcosts around 2300/- in chennai02:13
josephsudharsh: I just did a brand-new fresh install of ubuntu, so...02:13
thegladiatorsudharsh, thanks02:13
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josephsudharsh: do I need to restart X for this to work?02:13
sudharshjoseph: no not needed02:13
sudharshwhat did u do...?02:14
sudharshu must uncheck the 'open in browser windows'02:14
sudharshin behaviour tab02:14
thegladiatorooqs is there for kde and gnome . good02:14
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sudharshthegladiator: tell me if it works02:14
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thegladiatoryes02:14
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thegladiatorwill do that02:14
josephI unchecked the following:  System ---> File System ---> Behavior --->  Always open in browser windows02:15
sudharshno....02:15
sudharshpreferences02:15
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thegladiatorjoseph, whats the problem again  ?  i missed the conversation02:15
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josephI want to enable spatial nautilus02:15
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thegladiatori have been toggling with these things02:15
nasemake: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.02:15
nasehow do i fix this02:15
thegladiatorah.02:15
sudharshnase..install kernel headers02:15
thegladiatorit is by default spatial you changed it ?02:16
nasei did02:16
nasealong with libsdl-dev02:16
thegladiatoror am I wrong?02:16
josephthegladiator: it is by default spatial?02:16
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sudharshjoseph: dont kick me....u must uncheck it02:16
caugieris there someone working on the livecd here?02:16
sudharshno not in breezy02:16
theineIs /etc/locale.gen somehow deprecated in Dapper?02:16
nasesudharsh, how do i do that then02:16
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theineIt does not exist anymore on my system and therefore nothing happens if I do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales"...02:17
sudharshsorry...did u install kernel headers02:17
josephSystem ---> Preferences ---> File Management ---> Behavior---> Always open in browser windows02:17
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nasesudharsh, whats the apt-get thing for that?02:17
theineor "sudo locale-gen" for that matter02:17
josephsudharsh: ^ that is what I did02:17
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sudharshah wait02:17
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sudharshh\joseph try restarting X02:17
sudharshworked for me outta box02:17
josephoh wait02:17
josephsudharsh: it works, unless I choose Applications -->  Accessories ---> File Browser02:18
josephbut that is normal02:18
thegladiatormy  comp has started to upgrade oo02:18
jendathegladiator: can't find oo quickstarter in the repos. any luck yet?02:18
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thegladiatori can find it jenda02:18
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jendathegladiator: and what's it called?02:18
sudharshnase: try apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)02:18
thegladiatorooqs02:19
josephsudharsh: thanks02:19
phlaxhi there - ive upgraded to dapper, and my second xinerama screen (os radeon driver) has ceased to work. I was wondering if anyone knows of changes in X that might have caused this, or should i file a bug?02:19
naseE: Couldn't find package kernel-headers-2.6.12-9-38602:19
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thegladiatorseacrh for ooqsgnome /ooqskde02:19
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thegladiatoryou can find it ?02:19
star07hiall02:19
sudharshoh do an apt-get update02:19
thegladiatorstar07, hi02:19
star07first time here02:19
josephon to my next question:  why does ubuntu show ESD as audio output and OSS for input?  shouldn't it be ALSA for both?02:19
thegladiatorjenda, its there ?02:19
jendathegladiator: OK, got it02:19
thegladiatorkl02:19
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sudharshjoseph: u just change it if u wnat :)02:20
star07i got a question to ask02:20
sudharshask...02:20
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thegladiator!ask02:20
sophtpawcan someone tell me how to unrar02:20
star07is it possible i remote access windows PC from ubuntu?02:20
Myrttiunrar -e02:21
sudharshsudo apt-get rar02:21
sudharshsudo apt-get install rar02:21
sudharshsorry02:21
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star07will remote thru the VPN02:21
phlaxstar07: tightvnc02:21
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sudharshtinyvnc!02:21
nasesudharsh, so whats up? why cant i install kernel headers02:21
shaggy_bjphello everyone02:21
sophtpawok, then unrar -e02:21
phlaxstar07: *vnc02:21
josephsudharsh: what are the differences between ESD and ALSA02:21
star07oh02:21
sudharshESD -> Enlightenment Sound Demon02:21
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star07any version of VNC will do, is it? then windows PC must have VNC also?02:21
sudharshnase: go to synaptic then02:22
josephsudharsh:  but isn't ESD just a front-end for ALSA?02:22
nasesudharsh, Unpacking linux-kernel-headers (from .../linux-kernel-headers_2.6.11.2-0ubuntu13_i386.deb) ...02:22
Hoxzerwhat would be good direct connect client?02:22
nasethats in my konsole history02:22
phlaxstar07: install *vnc on windows then use terminal server client on ubuntu02:22
sudharshcool mate02:22
naseso i already have it installed... right?02:22
sudharshjoseph oh i didnt know that02:22
josephI don't know either02:22
star07oh, so this is the software that MUST install on windows PC lo?02:22
phlaxstar07: i think its called that - my apps menu is broken!02:23
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sudharshterminal server client02:23
star07wat u means, phlax?02:23
phlaxstar07: tsclient02:23
star07oh02:23
sudharshstar07 terminal server client02:23
thegladiatorwhen dapper comes , I can  upgrade or something ? rather than doing a fresh install ?02:23
nasesudharsh, linux-kernel-headers is already the newest version.02:23
nasesudharsh,  still doesnt work though.02:23
thegladiatori dont wanna lose my present config02:23
phlaxstar07: ...is the program to use on ubuntu to connect to a windows vnc box.02:23
thegladiatorand all those third party support02:24
star07oic, now understand....thx everyone02:24
sudharshnase: i suggest d/l the vanilla kernel and compile it02:24
nasewhy..02:24
star07is all of u using breezy now?02:24
thegladiatorlike pop in the CD and hit UPGRADE as does Windows XP , over a win 98 :)02:24
sudharshwell breezy does that02:24
sudharshupgraded from hoary to breezy02:25
thegladiatori see . i did a fresh install02:25
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sudharshof coure u must put the cd while 'in' the desktop02:25
thegladiatorthats cool02:25
jendathegladiator: change your sources list and type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and you're done02:25
thegladiatorjenda, not even the cd is required in that case ?02:26
jendaYeah02:26
sudharshthat broke my bud's system02:26
jendaI think02:26
jendaBut yes - it's a little unpolished02:26
phos-phoros"sudo apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade ?02:26
star07how's the breezy?02:26
sudharshgladiator dat broke my friends installation02:26
star07i still using hoary02:26
sudharshstar07 go for it02:26
thegladiatorsudharsh, as jenda said , is it possible to do it online without the cd even ?02:26
star07Mm..ok...02:26
sudharshit is but broke my friends pc02:26
thegladiatorstar07, always the newer version is better02:26
star07so, i just use apt-get will update to breezy?02:27
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sudharshbut results may vary and its not recommended02:27
star07need to change any at sources.list?02:27
sudharshyes02:27
_jasonubotu, tell star07 about breezy02:27
josephwhy does synaptic show 2 instances of "linux-image-2.6.12-10-386"02:27
sudharshchange all instances of hoary to breezy....02:27
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jendastar07: yes, definitely. Youcan get a complete sources.list here:02:27
jenda!easysource02:27
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:27
sudharshmust be of diff architecture02:28
cr4ck5h07whats the command to run wine on ubuntu i forgot :(02:28
sudharshcr4ck5h07 u cant run wine as it is02:28
ccookecr4ck5h07: have you installed it?02:28
j2daoshok... back... how do i add multiple commands to a line? not with the | command...02:28
sudharshuse  wine <name of the exe>02:28
cr4ck5h07I think i lauched it before02:28
ccookecr4ck5h07: sudo apt-get install wine02:28
ccookecr4ck5h07: that'll install it02:28
cr4ck5h07just to install wine i mean02:28
sudharshseparate the command with ;02:29
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cr4ck5h07just to type in alt + F2 i mean the command02:29
phlaxcr4ck5h07: its worth checking out the wine repository at sourceforge for recent versions - they have debs.02:29
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sudharshcr4ck5h07 open up a terminal02:29
j2daoshso i can do a cut -f1 -d' ' ; cut -f5 -d' ' > User and that will cut field 1 and 5 and drop them into a file called user?02:29
sudharshyes but it'll be taken as separate commands if thats what u want02:30
josephwhat is the difference between ESD and ALSA?02:30
star07Mm...still very new on ubuntu....  so, dunno wat can do under the ubuntu...:)02:30
ccookej2daosh: better would be to use: awk '{print $1" "$5}'02:30
sudharshstar07 are a wannabe developer like me02:30
cr4ck5h07I think it was  "wine progman" or something i just need a  little correction02:30
thegladiatorsudharsh, are there many in chn who uses ubuntu , hows the popularity there ? are you a student02:30
sudharsh*u02:30
j2daoshwell i want the name and the pid side by side when they get dropped into the file02:30
sudharshyes....02:30
j2daoshyeah i tried that ccooke but i need other parameters... it wouldn't take that command02:31
sudharshour LUG once gave away bout 50 o them in a school02:31
thegladiatorsudharsh, thats great .02:31
star07what is wanabe developer means?02:31
sudharsh:D...u bet..my mom's school has 5 pcs runnin em02:32
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j2daoshu wanna be a devloper02:32
JoeBlowstar07, it means u wanna be a developer02:32
j2daoshlol02:32
JoeBlowstar07, its in english02:32
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star07oh02:32
lowman62I know ubuntu became real popular in my neighborhood...my cds are making their way up the block :)02:32
star07heehee02:32
JoeBlowstar07, jp02:32
thegladiatorthats simply amazing, a school using something as coo as ubuntu in India . wow02:32
star07i still in blur02:32
star07jp?02:32
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JoeBlowlowman62, thats great, i got my father in law to try it the other day02:32
sophtpawcan someone help me02:32
sophtpawi'm puzzled02:32
thegladiator!someone02:32
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>02:32
sophtpawtrying to unrar files in a folder02:32
JoeBlowlowman62, kinda wich i hadnt tho, because he calls me constantly now with quesations02:33
sudharshChennai is known for the open source practice..02:33
sophtpawbut it wont let me cd into the folder - says it isn't there!02:33
JoeBlowsophtpaw, just use the program02:33
lowman62JoeBlow: my neighbors are all fed up with windows...not that i blame them :P02:33
j2daoshtar -vft file02:33
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sophtpawbut it clearly is because i can see it02:33
thegladiatorsudharsh, good. are you working or student?02:33
sudharshsopthpaw did u install rar02:33
sudharshstudent02:33
JoeBlowlowman62, I hate windows, peice of shit, but i gotta play games somehow02:33
sophtpawJoeBlow: the program?02:33
et0I keep getting "No Symbols found" when I try to run X after I installed Ubuntu. dpkg-reconfigure doesnt work. Any clues or hints?02:33
JoeBlowsophtpaw, my ubuntu 5.10 came with a program for .rar02:34
lowman62JoeBlow: I know what you mean...my neighborhood is in my icq list errr :P02:34
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sudharshJoeBlow it doesnt02:34
JoeBlowlowman62, my neighborhood in america wouldnt even know what ICQ was02:34
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sudharshthats in the repos...its the non-free thingy02:34
sophtpawJoeBlow: so tell me how you'd unrar files in a folder /home/JoeBlow for eg02:34
superantehi02:34
JoeBlowsophtpaw, if i find it real fast on synaptic, im gonna punch u in the face02:35
superantenew ubuntu user02:35
superante;)02:35
thegladiatorsudharsh, !new02:35
JoeBlow* punches supernate02:35
thegladiator!new02:35
ubotuthegladiator: I don't know, could you explain it?02:35
thegladiator:)02:35
lowman62JoeBlow: I am so glad I am not a gamer...not to say anything wrong with that..it is just that I can just step away from windows completely...I told my wife that the breezy version I put on her laptop was the new windows version and she loves it LOL ...but she hates linux ;)02:35
j2daoshuntar -vft filename /home/joeblow02:35
JoeBlowsophtpaw, its called unrar free02:35
caugierhi, is there anyone who knows who i should contact for questions about the livecd ?02:35
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sophtpaw:o02:35
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JoeBlowlowman62, my wife loves linux , cause now she can say fuc windows, thats the only reason why02:35
lowman62JoeBlow: I am the neighborhood computer repair guy LOL02:35
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sudharshcaugier uv come to the rite [lace02:36
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sophtpawJoeBlow: ok, so you don't do it from command line. I still find it odd that i cant cd into a folder that is clearly there02:36
JoeBlowlowman62, im the neighberhood drunkj02:36
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JoeBlowsophtpaw, i always can02:36
j2daoshsoph... any of it capped?02:36
sudharshi m the neighbourhood brat :)02:36
lowman62JoeBlow: beats being the town idiot tho huh ? LOL02:36
j2daoshbecause linux is picky about that02:36
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geforceternewbie says:  I want to try the ubuntu 5.1 live cd but i dono how to configure my graphic settings so its works...02:36
caugiersudharsh: ah good :-) so you know (or someone else) how th change the kernel (package) in a livecd?02:36
JoeBlowlowman62 , now , he even gets his own cards!02:36
JoeBlowlowman62 , no , he even gets his own cards!02:37
sudharshu cant02:37
j2daoshi hate my nieghbors so i dont go outside02:37
j2daoshlol02:37
JoeBlowlowman62 , I just get arrested02:37
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Guardianhi ppl02:37
JoeBlowI hate my neighbors too, but i only hang around outswide my house if im grilling, otherwise im in town02:37
sophtpawj2daosh: yes, i have kept to the correct sizes02:37
geforceterit loads up until the logo and all but when it shu go to the desktop it shows purplish lines02:37
JoeBlowHI GUARDIAN!!!02:37
j2daoshsizes?02:37
sudharshcaugier..u cant change the kernel pkg in live cds02:37
j2daoshim talking capitol letters02:37
sudharshgeforceter check the xorg.conf02:38
sophtpawyes, capital letters02:38
Guardianhi just installed ubuntu, the grub menu does not respond to the up/down keys, any idea :) ? (i'm on a dell inspiron 8600 laptop)02:38
j2daoshcan u get to it in the gui?02:38
JoeBlowtime to smoke a ciggarette02:38
j2daoshjoe... damn u02:38
lowman62JoeBlow: I am bringing in on average of $500 extra from neighbors insisting on installing norton futilities...and destroying their systems for lack of knowledge on how to use it properly :P02:38
j2daoshnow i need one02:38
caugiersudharsh: i meant making a custom livecd with a custom kernel ;-)02:38
geforcetersudharsh: ya i came here before and they told me to do the sudo thing02:38
JoeBlowlowman62, dude, i shuld do that, but its hard to do here, u have to get a+. and its in german here02:38
sophtpawyes,02:38
sudharshcaugier...i m not that advanced user :002:39
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rraajjGuardian: Does it happen all the time? Even at a fresh boot?02:39
sudharshubuntu-dev channels may help u02:39
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geforceterbut i tried setting the frequency for my crt monitor maualy but with no avail02:39
lowman62JoeBlow: I have been working on computers for years long before the internet went public...I refuse to get certs based on windblowz02:39
Guardianrraajj: before i had gentoo, and grub worked correctly02:39
sophtpawj2daosh: one of my folders is Desktop iwth a capital 'D' and i can access that in CLI. why not Hikaru?02:40
caugiersudharsh: k, that's why i was asking about the place, i guess some kind of #ubuntu-dev must exist. do you know?02:40
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Guardianrraajj: in fact keyboard is not working at all, when on the grub menu02:40
sudharshubuntu-developer02:40
rraajjGuardian: I mean does it happen even at powerup? It also happens to me, but only when I "soft reboot". (ctrl+alt+del)02:40
sudharshcheck the website for the list02:40
lowman62<--smoke break :)02:41
et0I keep getting "No Symbols found" when I try to run X after I installed Ubuntu. dpkg-reconfigure doesnt work. Any clues or hints?02:41
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Guardianrraajj: weird, gonna try with power up :)02:41
caugiersudharsh: i was looking for something more interactive but thx :-)02:41
geforceter...?02:41
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sudharshgeforceter install the nvidia glx package02:42
sudharshif u r havin nvidia that is02:42
geforceterya i am having it02:42
geforceterxfx 6600gt02:42
geforceterso its not a problem with the monitor?02:43
sudharshno..i dont think so02:43
star07after i upgrade to breezy, will all my previous setting gone??02:43
nasejust do a dist-upgrade02:43
naseo_O02:43
star07^_^02:43
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tvohm, in which package(s) is /usr/include/GL/gl.h supposed to be? (dapper)02:44
sudharshstar07 r u havin a separate home partiton02:44
karlwrkI realise this might be kinda vague, but has anyone reported serious USB storage performance issues with recent kernels?02:44
star07wat means?02:44
sudharshkarlwrk..me yess with unbranded roadside devices02:45
star07i think i dun hav02:45
karlwrkrsync from a usb drive with the 2.6.12 breezy stock kernel reports 20meg a second, and takes a real time of about 1minute02:45
karlwrkbut with 2.6.15, rsync still reports around 20meg/sec, but a real time of nearly 6 minutes,02:45
star07how i seperate it?02:45
sudharshstar07 it doesnt matter....but it helps while switching between distros02:45
star07oh02:45
karlwrkduring which time the load average gets up to about 6, and the system is almost unresponsive02:45
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star07can explain to me how it help?02:46
geforceter2i was disconnected02:46
karlwrkI've tried using the anticipatory and the cfq IO schedulers, but they don't seem to be the culprit02:46
star07i not very understand on it.02:46
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karlwrksudharsh: what do you mean by unbranded roadside drivers?02:46
sudharshstar07 lets suppose u migrate from ubuntu to fedora02:46
sudharshu know the cheap unbrande stuff02:47
JoeBlowsudharsh, we are just supposing tho02:47
star07ok02:47
karlwrkcheap unbranded hardware you mean?02:47
karlwrkI'dbuy that if it was just always bad,02:47
sudharshyup,,,o i meant devices02:47
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geforceter2sudharsh : how do i intall the glx package?02:47
karlwrkbut it was perfectly acceptable and normal with 2.6.12, but abyssmal with 2.6.1502:47
lowman62ok am back02:47
lowman62what i miss ;P02:47
sudharshtry apt-get install nvidia-glx02:47
JoeBlowthe funny thing is, we all have our own hands, but we come from different moms02:48
renedoxlowman62: not a lot02:48
karlwrknvidia-glx for the usb storage problems?02:48
lowman62renedox: ty :P02:48
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sudharshno it wasnt meant for u karwlk02:48
geforceter2the package come with the live cd?02:48
sudharshdoes all other hw work02:48
karlwrksorry, yeah, saw it was for geforceter202:48
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karlwrksudharsh: yeah, everything else is cool02:49
sudharshno it doesnt..02:49
star07so, sudharsh, means if i migrate from unbuntu to fedora, the home won't change, is it?02:49
sudharshkarlwrk what about lsusb and all02:49
karlwrkstill have the kubuntu automount bug, but that's the same as it was with both kernels02:49
sudharshbungo star0702:49
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star07if seperate, then means still a bit troublesome, is it?02:49
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sudharshwell u still egt ur themes and all02:50
sudharshit aint troiblesome02:50
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star07i'm not apt-get updating the breezy....^_^02:50
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joseph"Open in new tab" does not work in Xchat02:51
star07*now, typo02:51
star07:)02:51
geforceter2how can i install the nvidia glx packgae using a live cd02:51
sudharshwell done...02:51
geforceter2hope i am not irritating02:51
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sudharshgeforceter2 u cant..02:51
et0I keep getting "No Symbols found" when I try to run X after I installed Ubuntu. dpkg-reconfigure doesnt work. Any clues or hints?02:51
sudharshnvidia glx in available only in online repos02:51
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karlwrksudharsh: and?02:52
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karlwrkyou can still edit sources.list and apt-get while running02:52
karlwrkjust that I don't think you can actually _use_ the new driver :)02:52
sudharshyeah but whats the use02:52
star07how come in gnome, capture screen need to use GIMP to capture?02:52
josephfor example:  "addons.mozilla.org"  <---right-click and choose "Mozilla Firefox" and then "Open in new tab".  The tab does not open ever.02:52
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star07any other ways more easy?02:52
geforceter2ping02:52
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karlwrkwell, it's more useful for other packages :)02:53
_jasonstar07, Prn Scr button02:53
sudharshu can use the 'print screen' in ur keyboard02:53
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geforceter3shit dc again02:53
sudharshand paste it wherever u want02:53
_jasonstar07, or system -> take screenshot02:53
Sionideon02:53
Sionideoops02:53
Catch22hello, im currently downloading ubuntu, but ive got a question; ive got an SMC wlan PCI card which wasnt supported by mandrake 10.. is it possible to see if this card is supported by ubuntu?02:53
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star07after i press, when want to paste somewhere, the "paste" is disable one02:53
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sudharshu gotta paste in gimp lol02:53
netstarWhere's the best place to get ubuntu wallpapers from?02:53
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yanchengwhere can i get the dos2unix tool in ubuntu?02:53
sudharshtry gnome-look.org02:54
star07_jason, i got it02:54
sudharshdosbox02:54
karlwrkCatch22: given how clearly wlan cards are marked, the only reliable way is to try it out02:54
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Catch22mkay..02:54
karlwrkwith 5.04, you often couldn't even try it out with a live cd :(02:54
geforceter3suddahrsh i might install the full ubuntu version but i am hesistant because i fear the graphic might not be supported again02:54
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star07sudharsh, i had try paste on gimp, it still in disable mode02:54
Catch22i tried it with a wrapper in mandrake but that didnt work so well02:54
Catch22ndiswrapper02:54
Catch22caused a lot of troubles02:54
sudharshwell it should work02:54
star07that's what i confuse how i going to do02:54
geforceter3the last two times i installed debian and ubuntu i coundnt get the graphical interface and gave up02:54
karlwrkyeah, the wrapper normally works, but it's extremely hard to make sure you are wrapping the right driver :(02:54
Catch22(im really a linux n00b so dont kill me when i say something newbie)02:54
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Catch22k karlwrk02:55
Madpilotstar07: what happens when you just hit your "Print Screen" button?02:55
sudharshgeforceter show the output of xorg.conf in #flood02:55
star07after i press02:55
sexcopter8000mi've just changed the sound settings to not make that (annoying) sound when i click on things, but it's still there. do i need to restart the sound engine or something? if so, how?02:55
star07then i open GIMP, think to paste it out02:55
karlwrkCatch22: on the bright side, it's a lot easier now that it was 6 months ago :)02:55
star07but it can't02:55
josephfor example:  "addons.mozilla.org"  <---right-click and choose "Mozilla Firefox" and then "Open in new tab".  The tab does not open ever.02:55
lowman62you can get wallpapers here http://www.linuxhotbox.com/fun/linuxwallpapers/linux-wallpaper.26.htm02:55
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Catch22oke, my last expierence was about a year ago02:55
star07i need to use File->Acquire-> ... to get the screen shot02:55
Catch22i still have to use the ndiswrapper ?02:56
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netstarthanks man02:57
josephhow do I install nvidia openGL driver?02:57
et0Hello, I get "No symbols found" when I try to run X. Just installed Ubuntu. reconfiguring doesnt work.02:58
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sudharshsudo apt-get install nvidia-glx02:58
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josephsudharsh:  does that give 3D support?02:58
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Madpilotstar07: are you running Ubuntu w/ Gnome? There should be a screenshot util that pops up when you hit Print Screen...02:59
sudharshyes it does...mostly02:59
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star07is it? madpilot?02:59
josephsudharsh: what does this mean 'mostly'? is this an open-source reverse-engineering of the nvidia driver?02:59
sudharshknow nvidia's own driver02:59
sudharshits propeitory..03:00
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Kibou..03:00
josephsudharsh: so it's just an ubuntu packaging of the nvidia proprietary driver...03:00
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sudharshwell it is in non-free section..so must be03:00
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josephsudharsh: it's non-free?03:01
Madpilotstar07: try System menu --> Take Screenshot - what happens with that?03:01
sudharshwait i blaberred somthin03:01
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Catch22the downloads for ubuntu are slow :/03:01
sudharshits in restrictive03:01
sudharshnot nonfree03:02
sudharshsee under Graphics(restrictive)03:02
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josephsudharsh:  I haven't touched my sources.list so this is just what I see as available by default installation of ubuntu03:02
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sudharshoh...then edit em03:02
josephwhy does nvidia-glx depend on linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386?  I am using 2.6.12-10-686-smp so won't this cause a problem?03:03
josephwhy should I edit them?03:03
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sudharshdear o dear u hav a dual core processor03:03
sudharsh?03:04
josephno03:04
josephHyper-Threading P403:04
Dr_WillisHmmm.03:04
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sudharshjoseph check nvidia's site03:04
Q_Cont|UbuntuIs it possible to install the 1.5 version of FF via the update manager, or must one break from the Ubuntu upgrade cycle to do so now?03:04
star07_scared me....look like hang just now03:04
josephIsn't 2.6.12-10-686-smp proper for hyperthreading?03:04
sudharshyes yes03:04
Q_Cont|UbuntuIs https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion the instructions I want to follow?03:04
star07back03:04
sudharshyes03:04
josephsudharsh: I don't want to use the nvidia proprietary installer.  Isn't there an ubuntu way of doing this?03:05
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geforceter.03:05
Q_Cont|Ubuntujoseph: hyperthreading is seen by the OS as dual proc, so any SMP-enabled package is correct.03:05
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sudharshthere is...if u dont hav any probs03:05
geforceterhow come i am alwys disconnected?03:05
star07madpilot, i got it....there really will prompt out the screen after press03:05
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et0Hello, I get "No symbols found" when I try to run X. Just installed Ubuntu. reconfiguring doesnt work.03:05
josephso why does nvidia-glx depend upon linux-image-2.6.12-10-386?03:05
RustyJamesis it possible to restore a file which has been remove with rm on fat32 file system and on a ext3 filesystem?03:06
josephand linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-38603:06
Madpilotstar07: sorry? there really will what?03:06
sudharshthe nvidia-glx must be a 386 compilation03:06
geforcetersuddarsh: if i install ubuntu in my hd will it support my gfx card out of the box?03:06
sudharshgeforceter i think u have xfx card03:06
star07really will pop ou a windows after i press prn scr button03:06
geforceterya03:06
josephsudharsh: why must I be running a 386 kernel to use nvidia-glx?03:07
star07*pop out03:07
sudharshworks mostly...if not install nvidia-glx03:07
geforceterxfx geforce 6600 gt03:07
sudharshdunno joseph..i use a stupid sis03:07
geforceterbut why doesnt the live cd not work03:07
star07yeah, upgrating dist now...will it effect i chat here? it need restart?03:07
josephargh..I was hoping ubuntu had an answer for a basic question like nvidia driver installation103:08
sudharshwaht is ur problem..03:08
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karlwrk(it might, remember this is irc, quality of help is variable)03:08
thegladiatorADEPT is crashing after every install/upgrade that I do . what could be the cause of this ? it does till the last stage seemingly of the installation , and closes all by itself ! and kde signals a crash . I am using kde 3.5 using #kubuntu-dektop package03:08
sudharshadept?03:09
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thegladiatoradept package manager03:09
josephI do not understand why nvidia-glx package depends on linux-image-2.6.12-10-38603:09
sudharshi use gnome03:09
thegladiatoradpet is there in default breezy installation03:09
sudharshjoseph..it will work03:09
hunter_hi03:09
star07how can i check now i'm using breezy or hoary?03:10
thegladiatoreven in  gnome03:10
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hunter_German here?03:10
hunter_??03:10
josephsudharsh: but it will require that I install a kernel that is not the one that I want to use, correct?03:10
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sudharshforce nvidia-glx.....to install03:10
josephwithout dependencies?03:11
sudharshyup try it...03:11
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josephack...it's so unsophisticated03:11
josephI'm dubious03:11
sophtpaw03:12
sudharshjoseph...nvidia-glx in my box doesnt depend on 386 kernel03:12
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josephsudharsh: I am using synaptic03:12
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sudharshjoseph add all the repos first..03:13
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et0Hello, I get "No symbols found" when I try to run X. Just installed Ubuntu. reconfiguring doesnt work.03:13
josephwhich ones?  why aren't the default repos acceptable for this task?03:13
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sophtpawam i right in thinking that if a website has media    which reuqires quicktime, i cannot watch it03:13
sudharshjus enable all of them...03:13
sudharshnot in linux...using firefox03:14
Genius16sophtpaw: i dont believe so03:14
sophtpawshux03:14
sudharshinstall libquicktime03:14
netstaranyone got a screenshot of their desktop I can look at?03:14
sudharshnetstar u want mine03:14
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Prozachow can i install an ident, and how would i define what it should reply on ident request, if maybe an ftp asks for ident03:15
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netstaryeah as long as it isn't too big.03:15
josephwhy does ubuntu only have firefox version 1.0.7?03:15
sudharshnetstar where do i send em?03:15
netstarbecause they're a pain in the butt joseph03:15
mad_phoenixhowdy...so i've been trying to set up a webserver, and when things started heading south i checked to see if i could ping 127.0.0.1...and I couldn't.  Would apache or wordpress affect this?03:15
netstar!firefox03:15
sudharshcoz breexy was release b4 firefox 1.503:15
netstar!firefox1.503:15
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion03:15
Genius16its a good walkthrough03:16
netstarthat works fine, imo.03:16
lowman62joseph: you can install 1.5 but do what ubotu sent you03:16
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Madpilotjoseph: because 1.5 was released after Breezy was released - 1.5 will be in Dapper in a few months, though03:16
lowman62Madpilot: is dapper going to be the upgrade to breezy?03:17
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sudharshnetstar where can i send u the screenshot03:18
renedoxspeaking of firefox03:18
renedoxhow do I update to 1.5?03:18
netstarerm via IRC03:18
netstar /dcc send netstar filename03:18
sudharshhow..i m new to irc03:18
sophtpawshame, libquicktime, didn't do it. Not in Opera, Firefox or Epiphany03:18
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lowman62sophtpaw: what are you trying to do?03:19
netstarsophtpaw, linux quicktime MOV support?03:19
sophtpawunder what circumstances does libquicktime make quicktime media available?03:19
netstarsophtpaw, about none.03:19
netstar:P03:19
sophtpawi am trying to watch a vid on a website which requires quicktime03:19
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sudharshtry pasting the url in totem-03:20
lowman62what is the web site sophtpaw?03:20
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Genius16i believe i installed the firefox media player to get it working?03:20
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Sh4d0xhi all03:20
Sh4d0xhappy new year btw03:20
GuardianI just installed xubuntu, where is the xfce desktop directory ? i just downloaded a file with firefox to the desktop but nothing shows up. when i click on "open" in the firefox downloads dialog nothing happens, seems that the file has been downloaded to /dev/null03:20
lowman62sh4d0x: hi, happy new year03:21
star07hi, sh4d0x03:21
sophtpawlowan62: http://johnderuiter.com/Seminar_Excerpts.html03:21
netstarGuardian, $HOME/Desktop03:21
sudharshlook in .xfce03:21
Sh4d0xi got a question: when i start my bittorend it asks me for a "metafile" what should i select there?03:21
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netstarxfce doesn't understand the concept of  Desktop afaik,03:21
sudharshSh4d0x the torrent file03:21
Sh4d0xsudharsh, and where can i find that one :$03:22
lowman62sophtpaw: mplayer-plugin...it is working for me03:22
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sophtpawhuh!03:22
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sudharshu gotta d/l torrents from torrentsearch.com03:23
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maze!java03:23
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs03:23
netstaranyone know a site where you can upload images?03:23
lowman62sophtpaw: get the mplayer-plugin...that will work03:23
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Guardiannetstar: i don't have $HOME/Desktop :/03:23
sophtpawlowman62: directly from the website? or did you as sudharsh suggested, paste it into totem?03:23
Sh4d0xsudharsh thnxx i'll give it a try03:23
Sh4d0xcya03:23
lowman62no it is running in firefox for me now using mplayer-plugin03:24
sophtpawlowman62: pretty sure i already have it, but i'll try again03:24
karlwrknetstar: photobucket might work?03:24
karlwrkbut it's not as simple as a pastebin03:24
sudharshokies03:24
lowman62sophtpaw: then you do not have it configured properly if you do03:24
netstarthanks kafeine03:24
netstarkarlwk even03:24
errr_What package do I need to install to get ./compile: line 6: ucs2any: command not found  this error fixed???  I cant find ucs2any in synaptic anywhere..03:24
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maze!diskmounter03:24
ubotudiskmounter is, like, totally, to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter03:24
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lowman62sophtpaw: the mplayer-plugin not just mplayer03:25
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sophtpawlowman62: synaptic doesn't show mplayer-plugin03:26
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sudharshgtg03:26
_jasonsophtpaw, mozilla-mplayer I think03:26
sudharshbye03:26
s_spiffhey are the repo's working?03:26
lowman62sophtpaw: If memory serves me correctly...I got mine from the mplayer website03:26
s_spiff i cant seem to download any of the stuff!03:26
thegladiatori did a memtest86+ on my system . how can I explain this to my vendor that the memory is having problems ? normal cases reported are complete memory crashings like windows not booting etc.03:27
sophtpawok03:27
_jason!info mozilla-mplayer03:27
ubotumozilla-mplayer: (MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 3.05-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 366 kB, Installed size: 1340 kB03:27
s_spiffok now they are03:27
netstarthegladiator, tell them you run memtest86 as it's acceptable industry-wide as a valuable resource.03:27
thegladiatoror the computer rebooting all of a sudden , as for me my aps crash due to seg faults03:27
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jonoa while back I tried to load a file from a windows share into OpenOffice.org and it would not allow it - I want to be able to load the file into OpenOffice.org from the remote share, be able to edit it and save it to the share - sounds reasonable? Can this be done in Breezy?03:27
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lowman62sophtpaw: check what ubotu just said03:28
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thegladiatornetstar, thank you and besides , when you do a memtest you are expected to get no bad bits correct ?03:28
thegladiatorin my memtest I see some bad bits being mentioned .03:28
netstarthegladiator, right.03:28
Genius16hey guys ive got a laptop. how to i configure power management? is there a utility automatically installed? im trying to get my system to suspend upon lid closure. would it be laptop dependent?03:28
netstarAny inconsitencies and your RAM should be thrown in the bin.03:28
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thegladiatornetstar, when you do a memtest , somethign comes written below ?  o just blank ?03:28
star078181, sudharsh03:29
netstarit will inform you of errors thegladiator03:29
sophtpawubotu: where do i get that?03:29
ubotusophtpaw: What?03:29
thegladiatornetstar, it doesnt come as pop ups ...under false but ...i gues I can see something03:29
karlwrkGenius16: yes, it does depend on the laptop.03:29
sophtpawmozilla-mplayer03:29
karlwrkfor some of us it "just works"03:29
_jasonsophtpaw, he told you multiverse :)03:30
thegladiatornetstar, i acn see many mem bits being written as good and something under bad as well03:30
karlwrkand for some it works in varying levels03:30
thegladiatornetstar, in ur case nothing comes written under bad ?03:30
sophtpawi have multiverse ticked03:30
netstarright.03:30
Genius16karlwrk: i figured so. you wouldnt also know if theres a way to get it to automatically restart the dhcp daemon after suspend. seems to be a problem with this laptop03:30
_jasonsophtpaw, then just sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer, make sure you install mplayer first though03:30
karlwrkGenius16: apt-get laptop-net is _meant_ to do some of this03:31
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karlwrkfor me it at least made it clever enough not to hang trying to dhcp on a linkdown port, but your mileage may vary03:31
sophtpawubotu: i aplogogize. i found mozilla-mplayer in synaptic after all. was looking for mplayer only before03:31
ubotusophtpaw: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about03:31
_jasonubotu, tell sophtpaw about mplayer03:31
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josephsudharsh joseph add all the repos first..03:31
_jasonubotu, tell sophtpaw about yourself03:31
josephwhat repos?03:31
Genius16thanks ill check that out03:31
thegladiatornetstar, http://pjarillon.free.fr/docs/memory-fail.jpg ... this is almost like what I get . so I can safely say it is a case of failure ? what do you say ?03:32
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bur[n] eranyone using azureus or gnome-btdownload ??  neither of them seem to be working for me lately.  They load up fine, pass the nat test, but just won't get passed 0%03:32
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alekandrHow do I start ssh, or check if its running, i checked /etrc(0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7).d/ for the ssh file and couldnt find it03:32
Seveasalekandr, apt-get install openssh-server03:32
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josephdoes anyone know how to install the nvidia driver on ubuntu?03:32
thegladiator!+nvidia03:33
alekandrSeveas: thanks mate03:33
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736803:33
netstarUnder Errorswhat number do you get?03:33
et0Hello, I get "No symbols found" when I try to run X. Just installed Ubuntu. reconfiguring doesnt work.03:33
thegladiatorI didnt check that03:33
netstarwell check it03:33
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thegladiatoryes i will check and brb03:33
netstarmore than one and your RAM is broken and needs throwing away.03:33
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thegladiatoris the the important parameter ?03:33
netstardamn straight it is.03:33
mazemake: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.03:33
mazewhy do i get this error03:33
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mazei do already have kernel headers installed..03:34
thegladiatoryes i will check and brb , even it has more than one , it cud still run a OS , yes ?03:34
alekandrOh man, <3 xchat03:34
_jasonmaze, you installed build-essential?03:34
netstarthegladiator, Nope, not reliably anyway.03:34
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alekandrNo need to open terminals just /exec -o03:34
thegladiatoryep03:34
thegladiatorbrb03:34
maze_jason, yes03:34
alekandr_jason: hey mate :)03:34
thegladiatorubotu, tell joseph about nvidia03:34
_jasonalekandr, hi03:34
sophtpawlowman62: got a result. mozilla-mplayer installed the mplayer-plugin needed. Now i can watch my exerpt! thank you. (however, still doesn't work in opera, hmm...)03:34
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Q_ContinuumQuestion: Why is Ubuntu still running on a beta of OO.org 2.0, and the previous incantation of Firefox?03:35
olicathow can i check the size of a swap partition?03:35
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SeveasQ_Continuum, breezy is stable and does not receive new versions03:36
_jasonQ_Continuum, the way I understand it, ubuntu is a stable release.  So the only updates provided are security related.03:36
lowman62sophtpaw: sometimes in linux..you just can't have it all...but maybe in time ;)03:36
Seveasapart from security updates03:36
josephthegladiator:  why does nvidia-glx depend upon linux-image-2.6.12-10-386?03:36
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Q_ContinuumI assume the next version is in testing...is it possible to use that and get the 'current releases'?03:36
Q_Continuum(AKA Firefox 1.5, Oo.org 2.0 final...)03:37
jendaQ_Continuum: It's the debian policy which Ubunut adopted: no updates in the main repos after the release. And exactly what you just said is called backporting and it works on Ubuntu03:37
jenda!backports03:37
ubotusomebody said backports was Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports03:37
sophtpawlowman62: i think you're right. And i got too excited. It was downloaded/buffering and got up to 99% but now it has stopped and doesn't open. Seems yet more plugins of sorts are required to finally view the exerpt03:37
Q_ContinuumThanks.03:37
jendanp03:37
crimsunjoseph: it doesn't; it depends on a virtual package that is provided by the linux-image you mentioned, among others03:37
sophtpawlowman62: but it is possible to view on Linux as you have proved but not on mine for the time being it seems03:38
josephcrimsun: I'm reading it right there in front of me.03:38
alekandrSeveas: I suppose I have to write the ssh_config file?03:38
lowman62sophtpaw: I also installed the w32codecs and that may be the difference03:38
Seveasalekandr, no03:38
Seveasit should work out of the box03:38
sophtpawlowman62: no, i have those installed too03:39
alekandrroot@deprivation:~# /etc/rc0.d/K20ssh start03:39
alekandr * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                                                         [fail] 03:39
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crimsunjoseph: what are you reading?03:39
alekandr:(03:39
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et0I keep getting "No Symbols found" when I try to run X after I installed Ubuntu. dpkg-reconfigure doesnt work. Any clues or hints?03:39
lowman62sophtpaw: if you take the browser out of focus it will stop playing...is that what happened?03:39
alekandrSeveas: It fails to start03:39
Seveasalekandr, errors on the pastebin please03:40
josephcrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/688703:40
crimsunjoseph: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/688803:40
alekandrAll two lines of it :*03:40
crimsunjoseph: note how nvidia-kernel* is a virtual package that those linux-image packages each provide03:41
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sophtpawlowman62: browser out of focus? i don't understand03:41
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josephcrimsun: it is?  how do I tell that it is a "virtual package"03:41
alekandrOk, Seveas Its on pastebin, any ideas?03:41
lowman62sophtpaw: if you switch from one open program to another during playback it will stop the video and you will have to start it over again03:41
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C-O-L-Twhere to get cedega deb format?03:41
josephcrimsun:  The following NEW packages will be installed:03:42
joseph  linux-image-2.6.12-10-38603:42
crimsunjoseph: it's surrounded by <>s, and packages that satisfy it are listed immediately below.03:42
josephcrimsun: what am I missing?03:42
mazeSeveas, i keep getting this: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.03:42
maze , but i already have kernel headers installed, any ideas?03:42
crimsunjoseph: uname -r03:42
Seveasalekandr, /etc/init.d/ssh restart03:42
joseph2.6.12-10-686-smp03:42
Seveasalekandr, as root or with sudo :)03:42
crimsunjoseph: dpkg -l linux-686-smp|grep ^ii03:43
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lowman62sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart03:43
alekandrSeveas: lol, i only have a root account on this pc :] 03:43
josephcrimsun: dpkg -l linux-686-smp|grep ^ii03:43
josephNo packages found matching linux-686-smp.03:43
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crimsunjoseph: install it.03:43
josephcrimsun: install what?03:43
lowman62<--smoke break03:43
alekandrSeveas: Restarted03:43
crimsunjoseph: linux-686-smp03:43
sophtpawlowman62: i don't know. Same thing in Epiphany. It buffers fine till 99% and then stops03:44
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Seveasalekandr, that worked?03:44
alekandrSeveas: indeed, thanks03:45
josephcrimsun:  why linux-686-smp and not linux-image-686-smp03:45
crimsunjoseph: because linux-686-smp pulls in the appropriate l-r-m, too.03:45
josephso why is linux-image-686-smp even provided as a package?03:46
s_spiff any reccomendations for a bittorrent client?03:46
crimsunjoseph: why shouldn't it be?03:46
star07hi, if the network got proxy03:46
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josephcrimsun: should I remove linux-image-686-smp?03:46
crimsunjoseph: case in point: some of us don't need l-r-m.03:46
mazeSeveas, i keep getting this: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop. but i have kernel modules installed, would u kno whats wrong ? :o03:46
star07is it possible that i can use apt-get again?03:46
Madpilots_spiff: the default gnome-bittorrent is OK03:46
crimsunjoseph: it doesn't hurt to have it03:46
Seveasmaze: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.03:47
josephcrimsun: wouldn't it be installing 2 kernels then?03:47
crimsunjoseph: no, they're both metapackages.03:47
s_spiffhmm ok03:47
josephcrimsun; what is l-r-m03:47
crimsunjoseph: linux-restricted-modules03:47
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alekandrmaze: ls /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-38603:48
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mazewhat about it alekandr , theres no build folder.03:48
mazebut there is kernel, bunch of modules03:48
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alekandrthere is on mine03:48
mazevolatile, initrd03:49
josephcrimsun: okay I removed linux-image-686-smp and just installed linux-686-smp03:49
josephcrimsu: that should work right?03:49
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MacSlowGreetings everybody!03:49
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josephcrimsun: oh wait, linux-686-smp depends upon linux-image-686-smp03:50
u^Ahello i have a question which is not technically related, i have ordered some cd and waiting for the shipping,but i still did not received official confirmation03:50
alekandrmaze: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/689003:50
josephcrimsun: so basically all I've accomplished is to install the l-r-m03:50
MacSlowHow to enable a daily apt-get update under Ubuntu?03:50
michukcron it03:50
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MacSlowIs this already in place in a stock 5.10 install (and only needs to be switched on)?03:51
mipsHi anybody here familair with pptp ?03:51
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mazealekandr, yeah i have everything minus build03:51
MacSlowmichuk, sure thing... just wanted to ask for the proper apt-get command, I'm only familiar with yum and rpm03:51
michukapt-get dist-upgrade03:52
lowman62sorry sophtpaw i was out for a smoke03:52
sophtpawno worries03:52
soundrayI'm looking for an HTML photo gallery generator. Synaptic throws up a few package names -- any experiences? Recommendations?03:52
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sophtpawjust trying other stuff out03:52
josephcrimsun: what else do I have to do besides installing the nvidia-glx03:52
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sophtpawbut it don't look do-able03:52
PerversusBuenas tardes a todos03:52
MadpilotMacSlow: your system should check for updates once a day or so, a red icon will appear in the notification area03:52
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Catch22moment of thruth03:53
Madpilotsoundray: gThumb has a decent basic gallery maker03:53
michukMacSlow: or: apt-get -y dist-upgrade (this will assume yes to all questions)03:53
lowman62sophtpaw: I also have internet explorer installed with quicktime and windows media player...I dunno maybe that is why it works for me03:53
Catch22about to install ubuntu03:53
alekandrmaze: apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386 linux-kernel-headers03:53
et0I keep getting "No Symbols found" when I try to run X after I installed Ubuntu. dpkg-reconfigure doesnt work. Any clues or hints?03:53
sophtpawic lowman62, is that with wine that you IE installed?03:53
soundrayMadpilot, is it reasonably easy to customize the HTML templates?03:54
josephCouldn't find package nvidia-glx-config03:54
lowman62sophtpaw: no I use crossover office pro03:54
MacSlowMadpilot, michuk: I'm currently helping a friend, a fresh win-lin convert, with her box-setup.03:54
Madpilotsoundray: I don't know, actually, I've used it once just to test03:54
mazealekandr, was missing linux-headers, but already had kernel headers O_O03:54
mazealekandr,  thx for the help03:54
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alekandr:] 03:54
sophtpawlowman62: oh, i have IE installed with wine, which i hadn't thought of as i never use it. I'll check that out03:54
soundrayMadpilot, thanks, I'll have a look.03:55
lowman62sophtpaw: try it and see03:55
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josephhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia mentions to do this command " sudo apt-get install sudo nvidia-glx-config enable03:55
joseph" but I get an error "Couldn't find package nvidia-glx-config"03:55
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lowman62probably will crash in wine tho :P03:55
meborcok, i need advice... i have no sound in my breezy box... i can get my music and everything working, but sounds in ubuntu are not working... i went system>preferences>sound, tried to change my VIA motherboard sound device to a SB live... but whenever i go back to that menu, the VIA is still selected... i guess there is something wrong... how can configure what card ubuntu uses?03:55
MacSlowMadpilot, michuk: Ah... she just told me that after the first reboot after the install she was asked if she wanted "automatic updates" she answerd that with "yes". So I guess she has that stuff in place now.03:56
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SeicherlBoBanybody knows what to do with a screwed lcp-setting for pppd? can anybody help me?03:56
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CarinArris there a way to give local users priveleges that remote users don't have?03:56
soundrayIs anyone here familiar with zoph or KimDaBa? I'm looking for a recommendation for web image gallery generators.03:56
Catch22shit.. doesnt recognise my WLAN card03:56
CarinArri.e. say i want local users to be able to use shutdown and reboot but i dont want remote users to03:57
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blue-frogCarinArr, are remote and local users the same?03:57
CarinArryes03:57
CarinArri only want those physically at the machine to be able to reboot it etc03:58
jorgpwhere do I define a default editor, when I visudo it uses nano I want to switch to vim03:58
alekandrmaze: all working?03:58
soundrayCarinArr, I think you'll have to write a wrapper for shutdown that checks the users remote/local status.03:58
s_spiffare there no  other otrrent clients? other the the bittorrent ?03:58
sophtpawlowman62: can i install quicktime in I.E or would wine come into it??03:58
jorgps_spiff: there are tons of clients03:59
nalioth_zZzjorgp: in your ~/.bashrc   export EDITOR=blah03:59
s_spifflike?03:59
CarinArrsoundray, do you know where i can find any more information on it?03:59
MacSlowMadpilot, michuk: Would you recommend to enable those "universe"-repositories for apt-get for a "just user"-type of person?03:59
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soundrayCarinArr, how do you give remote access? ssh or XDMCP?04:00
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CarinArrssh04:00
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MadpilotMacSlow: yes - there is all sorts of useful stuff in Universe/Multiverse04:00
jorgps_spiff: ktorrent, ctorrent, azureus, qtorrent, rtorrent, etc..04:00
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s_spiffok... which ones good? every time i start bittorrent..it keeps asking me the metafile and crap..are there none like abc [ for windows ]  or the windows version bittorrent client?04:01
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Catch22mayb utorrent, dont know whether theres a linux client04:02
Catch22im currently using that for winxp04:02
s_spiffok..04:02
josephwhy does this command fail? "sudo ./armyops250linux.run".  I get this error:  "sudo: ./armyops250linux.run: command not found04:02
joseph"04:02
s_spiff thanks..will try some of these04:02
s_spiff cya04:02
trappistjoseph: sudo sh ./armyops250linux.run04:02
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trappistjoseph: also try: scp armyops250linux.run trappist@linuxkungfu.org (just kidding)04:03
soundrayCarinArr, a simple solution might be to stick with the Ubuntu default. That way, local non-privileged users can still reboot by changing to a text console and hitting Ctrl-Alt-Del.04:03
josephwhat is the time-out for sudo to remember my password so I don't have to re-enter it?04:03
trappist15 minutes04:04
Madpilotjoseph: I think it's 15min04:04
soundrayCarinArr, you can change the Ctrl-Alt-Del behavior to shutdown by editing /etc/inittab04:04
CarinArrsoundray, yeah.. i was just wondering how they do it in gnome/kde..04:04
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miroproba04:04
apokryphosjoseph: 15 mins04:04
soundrayCarinArr, I don't know... If all else fails, you can always look at the source code.04:05
CarinArrheh04:05
CarinArrweeee04:05
CarinArr;)04:05
soundrayCarinArr, found something?04:05
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CarinArrno, just happy at the prospect04:05
CarinArrheh04:05
Laittegood morning04:05
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SeicherlBoBcan anybody help me with my pppd? I need to fix some lcp-settings. i get pptp[29669] : anon log[decaps_gre:pptp_gre.c:395] : discarding duplicate or old packet 29317 (expecting 107009)04:06
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SeicherlBoBall the time!04:06
soundrayCarinArr, this isn't really my turf, but there are ways to check user status through commands like w and who04:06
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CarinArrthanks soundray04:07
CarinArrlittle bit wiser now;)04:07
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soundrayCarinArr, also check out 'man 5 utmp'04:08
CarinArrthanks04:09
fsdHi! I've changed my firts drive with grub and linux to other one. How to reinstall grub on it using linux installation cd?04:09
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lowman62sophtpaw: did that work?04:09
fsdI have already linux on second one04:09
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soundrayfsd, do you have the live CD by any chance?04:09
fsdyes, default ubuntu04:10
apokryphosfsd: /msg ubotu grub04:10
soundray!grub04:10
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting04:10
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b1shopdamn.  realvnc enterprise viewer for linux tosses libc errors04:10
edoardohi gals, hi dudes : )04:11
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edoardoyou guys, with gnome-volume-manager on, i still need to unmount say a usb connected ogg/mp3 player or can i simply unplug it, and it'll self-unmount?04:11
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soundrayedoardo, always better to unmount. You might have dirty buffers otherwise.04:13
SeicherlBoBis there nobody in here that knows about lcp for pppd???04:13
edoardosoundray, it's not for me. i unmount stuff. it's actually for my father's office. he's got a usb key and might forget to unmount. what would happen?04:13
edoardosoundray, and also, would it automatically unmount?04:13
soundrayedoardo, if he's written to it, and the write hasn't completed, he might lose data.04:14
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edoardosoundray, how would he know if the write has completed?04:14
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soundrayedoardo, best way is to unmount... The unmount only finishes after all writes are complete.04:15
soundrayedoardo, i.e. buffers flushed.04:15
edoardosoundray, like say he copies a bunch of documents, and then the copy process is over. is it *actually* over or is it like floppies, where stuff gets loaded into the floppies the moment you unmount?04:16
soundrayedoardo, you could reduce his risk by mounting removable devices with the sync option.04:16
soundrayedoardo, it's similar to the floppy situation.04:16
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nutcaseHi , im asking, is there anyway to know about ubuntu's processor management? Any documents at all?04:16
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edoardosoundray, how do iset the sync option?04:17
soundrayedoardo, dirty buffers are flushed when the system is idle, when you issue a 'sync' or 'unmount', or forced after a certain timeout.04:17
soundrayedoardo, in /etc/fstab04:17
edoardosoundray, thought so but... i'm usin' gnome-volume-manager04:17
edoardosoundray, i think it avoids fstab04:17
soundrayedoardo, give me two minutes...04:17
edoardosoundray, awright : )04:18
tokyoaheadhi guys, I just installed the live CD on my laptop, and activated the WLan interface, but how can I actually connect now?04:18
gnomefreaktokyoahead, you didnt install the live-cd and if you have rebooted since you activated the wlan you need to re-activate it04:19
tokyoaheadgnomefreak: actually I juist found out it works already... its just the newtork icon on the taskbar only shows the lo04:20
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klipHi there04:20
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Storkhi, the X server (gdm) gives me this error: "Error: API mismatch: The NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but this X module is version 1.0.7667. Please be sure that your kernel module and all nvidia driver files have the same driver version"04:21
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klipdid you check the versions yourself?04:21
tokyoaheadis there anything to be careful about when changing from gentoo to ubuntu? I have a parallel windows partition that I dont want to be touched either...04:21
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Storkanyone?04:22
klipSo: are the versions really different from each other @Stork?04:22
enkravWhat's the easiest way (for moms) to prevent the annoying find process that slows down the system daily from being started?04:22
Storkklip, that's what it says, how do i check?04:22
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klipoh, okay, give me a second, ok?04:22
Storkoh thanks04:22
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mjrenkrav, sudo rm /etc/cron.daily/slocate04:23
soundrayedoardo, there doesn't seem to be a gnome-volume-manager option for sync mounting.04:23
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klipStork: Use this command:04:23
soundrayedoardo, probably best to educate your father...04:23
klipuname -a04:23
Storkok04:23
klipin the shell and you will see which kernel version you have.04:23
MacSlowhow is sshd enabled under Ubuntu?04:24
Storkklip, "Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Thu Dec 22 11:37: UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux"04:24
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soundrayMacSlow, by default if you install openssh-server04:24
mjrMacSlow, sudo apt-get install openssh-server04:24
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Linfanguinis there a website with screenshots and info on all the linux distros? i want to see what the diffrence in all of them04:25
klipDo you have the latest driver for nVidia?04:25
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cyberzacki have a probleme with drapper04:25
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MadpilotLinfanguin: try distrowatch, they've got some of that info04:25
cyberzacksome one for help04:25
dirkvdbroekHello, I am still having trouble getting dri to work any help in here?04:25
soundrayLinfanguin, also, http://lwn.net/Distributions/04:26
Storkklip, using "apt-get install nvidia-glx" says i do04:26
klipokay.04:26
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Madpilothttp://distrowatch.com/04:26
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Linfanguinthanks alot04:26
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grundohi all!04:26
klipso the x module is too old, as the version number says.04:26
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klipI am a beginner myself and I don't really know how to update the x module.04:27
grundoi tryed to launch my America's army game after installing it but i get this error:04:27
grundo./armyops-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:27
cyberzackthe dist-upgrade is succesfu exept firefox but lot of packets are corrupted04:27
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klipgrundo: do you have the lib? check synaptics.04:27
Storkklip, i'd guess sudo apt-get install gdm ?04:27
grundook04:27
grundowhat do i search for there?04:27
grundowhat lib?04:28
cyberzackand i can't use eagle for using apt-get04:28
cleogrundo: libstdc++504:28
Storkklip, nope, i have the latest version :|04:28
grundook04:28
grundo:-)04:28
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gnomefreakcyberzack, what version of ubuntu04:28
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cyberzacki had breezy and i dist-upgrade to drappr04:28
klipWell search for the libstdc++04:28
dirkvdbroekmy X is giving me the following error: (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_EINVAL"04:29
dirkvdbroekI'm trying to get dri working with the fgl drivers04:29
dirkvdbroekI have reverted to using the synaptic tool to get them04:29
dirkvdbroekhowever, that did not solve any of my problems04:29
joseph_is it okay to have both libstdc++5 and libstdc++6 at the same time04:29
gnomefreakcyberzack, seeing as that dapper is not released not even in beta yet your gonna find alot of packages that dont work04:29
dirkvdbroekI'm really end of line - and I got this running on slackware in no time!04:29
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dirkvdbroekwhat is wrong with my ubuntu?04:30
Storkhi, the X server (gdm) gives me this error: "Error: API mismatch: The NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but this X module is version 1.0.7667. Please be sure that your kernel module and all nvidia driver files have the same driver version"04:30
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cyberzackyes i know that drapper is developpement but just for example X doesnt work04:30
cyberzackeagle usb also04:30
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cyberzackim in trouble04:30
cyberzackand no way too got my breezy snif snif04:31
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dirkvdbroekcyberzack, did you try switching to console?04:31
gnomefreakcyberzack, i would file a bug with bugzilla and wait or go back to breezy if you cant or if they cant help04:31
cleodirkvdbroek: try Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" in xorg.conf under Device section04:32
klipgtg now, do some homework.04:32
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klip4 pm in germany04:32
klipsee you all.04:32
Storkhi, the X server (gdm) gives me this error: "Error: API mismatch: The NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but this X module is version 1.0.7667. Please be sure that your kernel module and all nvidia driver files have the same driver version"? if i remove and re-install gdm would that work? or maybe if i installed kde instead?04:32
ccookedirkvdbroek: How did you install the ATI drivers?04:32
gnomefreakbye klip04:32
dirkvdbroekccooke, I used synaptic the last time04:32
cyberzackhow to go back to breezy without lost of data04:32
ccookedirkvdbroek: you must have changed the xorg.conf file, though04:32
ccookedirkvdbroek: how did you do that?04:33
dirkvdbroekI have assumed it has overwritten the previous drivers in /lib/modules04:33
Storkanyone?04:33
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dirkvdbroekI modified by hand and using fglconfig04:33
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dirkvdbroekI have found no way to properly edit my x config in the gui of ubuntu unfortunately04:33
Storkhi, the X server (gdm) gives me this error: "Error: API mismatch: The NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but this X module is version 1.0.7667. Please be sure that your kernel module and all nvidia driver files have the same driver version"? if i remove and re-install gdm would that work? or maybe if i installed kde instead?04:33
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ccookecyberzack: 1) If /home is a seperate partition, you're fine. 2) If not, back it up. 3) If you can't, split / into /home and / (but be aware that this *does* have some risk)04:33
thegladiatoram I connected ?04:34
thegladiatortest*04:34
gnomefreakthegladiator, yes04:34
Madpilotthegladiator: you seem to be04:34
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dirkvdbroekthegladiator, please, you are connected stop spamming :)04:34
Linfanguini have a question-with all this linux dsitros whats the diffrence? it seems like they all run on either kde or gnome? the only diffrence i see is the name-logo am i wrong?04:34
thegladiatoryo yes04:34
Madpilot... or we're all hallucinating... :P04:34
ccookeStork: the error says there's a version mismatch. Either you have the wrong kernel or the wrong version of the xorg drivers04:34
cyberzackok ok but no probleme with /home partition04:34
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thegladiatorhe he thats a possibility04:34
ccookeStork: is this the first time you've tried using the nvidia drivers?04:35
gnomefreakLinfanguin,  the packages are different from distro to distro04:35
dirkvdbroekccooke, do you agree not to use the internal agpgart? that's not reccomended by ati04:35
cyberzacki thought that is a possible way to recover , like apt-get recover loooooooool04:35
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cleodirkvdbroek: do it and it will work04:35
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Storkccooke, i've had them for a while, but i only just restarted ubuntu with them recently. i restarted gnome before though04:35
ccookedirkvdbroek: yes, quite. whatever is in your config, try reversing the line.04:35
ccookeStork: have you upgraded your system recently?04:36
dirkvdbroekcleo, I can start xinit after killing off gdb, but gdb does not seem to load my new xorg.conf  - what config file is gdb looking at?04:36
ccookeStork: updated, rather04:36
dirkvdbroekI'm currently starting X from a remote ssh session so I can observe without getting locked out.04:36
Storkccooke, i have updated the kernel a few days ago using the "show-updates" thing04:36
dirkvdbroek(WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found04:37
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dirkvdbroekseems wrong too doens't it04:37
ccookeStork: hmm. perhaps you didn't update the restricted modules patch04:38
astronauthi04:38
ccookedirkvdbroek: that's fine.04:38
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Storkccooke, how can i do that?04:38
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ccookestork: ssh in, then try: sudo apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade04:38
ccookeStork: sorry, sudo in front of both apt-get commands04:39
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Storkccooke, the onle ones it wants to update are "info" and "sudo" :(04:39
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dirkvdbroekI get no improvement with either internal or external04:40
ccookeStork: right, so everything seems fine there. what does 'dpkg -l linux-image*' do?04:40
dirkvdbroekbuggy stuff!04:40
ccookedirkvdbroek: you probably have a broken configuration, that's all04:40
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dirkvdbroekccooke, I KNOW I have a broken config04:40
dirkvdbroekhwo to fix it!04:41
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ccookedirkvdbroek: try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:41
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ccookedirkvdbroek: select the *ati* driver - not fglrx04:41
ccookedirkvdbroek: make sure that works04:41
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Storkccooke, gives me a table with 5 entries04:41
ccookedirkvdbroek: once it does, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change:04:41
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ccookedirkvdbroek: the 'ati' driver to 'fglrx'04:41
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ccookedirkvdbroek: and into the Device section add : Option "VideoOverlay" "on"04:42
Storkccooke, "un linux-image, un linux-imgage-2., ii linux-image-2." etc04:42
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ccookedirkvdbroek: try that. if it doesn't work, add: Option          "UseInternalAGPGART"    "off"04:42
dirkvdbroekok, in the x config, should glx be on and GL core?04:42
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ccookedirkvdbroek: you want the *default* config.04:43
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sam_Hello04:43
dirkvdbroekok, so I'm pressing enter at the ok's nothing more :)(04:43
sam_I'm having a small problem, could anybody help me please?04:43
ccookedirkvdbroek: hell, if you can find the original config - dpkg usually backs it up - in /etc/X11/ ?04:43
_jasonsam_, we can try if you ask a question04:43
ccookedirkvdbroek: the one dpkg generated when you first installed the system04:44
Storkccooke, should i un-install the nvidia drivers?04:44
ccookeStork: certainly for now.04:44
ccookeI'm not sure how you've got the mismatched version04:44
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ccookeStork: have you installed any drivers from a third party site?04:44
jaekanyone know if there are firefox 1.5 packages?04:44
gnomefreak!ff1.504:45
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ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion04:45
_jasonjaek, I don't believe there are any04:45
Storkccooke, nope04:45
ccookeStork: very odd.04:45
jaekdebian unstable uses 1.5... is ubuntu behind debian?04:45
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Catch22installing the packages takes forever04:45
gnomefreakubuntu unstable uses 1.504:45
gnomefreakmind you the term unstable means different than debian unstable tho :(04:46
dirkvdbroekit was called default.conf04:46
jaekso i cant set it to use the unstable package for ff1.5 only?04:46
sam_I installed Ubuntu yesterday, and I have had just one problem. I have an nVidia FX5200 Graphics card on my computer, but the highest resolution it will reach is 1024*768. I have used this card in windows at 1280*1024, no problems. It seems ubuntu wont let me even higher the resolution, the highest availiable is 1024*768, any ideas why?04:46
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dirkvdbroekok thateoneworked04:46
gnomefreakjaek, no04:46
gnomefreakjaek, the wiki is self explantory and isnt that hard to upgrade to 1.504:47
dirkvdbroekccooke, my problems are not resulting from the fact I installed breezy before official release?04:47
Storkccooke, still doesn't help. i did "sudp apt-get remove nvidia-glx"04:47
jaeksam_, install the restricted kernel modules04:47
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dirkvdbroekI thought it's updated fully by now04:47
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drmrwhere is kernel source in ubuntu?04:47
ccookedirkvdbroek: probably not. I did the same.04:48
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dirkvdbroeklinux-headers, in /usr/src04:48
Storkccooke, any ideas?04:48
jaekgnomefreak, that method still seems messy in comparsison with a package04:48
sam_What are the Restricted kernel modules? I'm a bit of a newby, you see.04:48
drmrlinux-headers is kernel source?04:48
ccookeStork: you need to reconfigure X - 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'04:48
dirkvdbroekarg. I changed ati to fglrx, gives me exactely the same error!04:48
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gnomefreakjaek, its really not bad but its up to you04:48
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dirkvdbroek(EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP04:48
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ccookedirkvdbroek: okay, a quick check: lsmod | grep agp04:49
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ccookedirkvdbroek: anything there?04:49
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dirkvdbroekintel_agp              23420  104:50
dirkvdbroekagpgart                35436  2 fglrx,intel_agp04:50
Storkccooke, ooh, it worked04:50
dirkvdbroekI don't want agpgart, but it gets loaded04:50
dirkvdbroekcannot unload it04:50
dirkvdbroekintel agp shouldn't be there either04:50
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sam_Can somebody tell me what "the resticted kernel modules" are? And how do I run / install them?04:50
dirkvdbroekshould be taken care of by the internal agpgart04:50
ccookedirkvdbroek: it's fine. That means you *must* turn off the internal AGP support in the ATI driver04:50
steven__hey how do i get my burner working?04:50
mindlacehello ... I am compiling openldap from scratch because it is effectively orphaned and the ubuntu/debian versions are *extremely slow* running under 2.6.+ kernels04:50
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dirkvdbroekccooke, well, it's turned off afaik04:51
Catch22nice, screen is fucked up in gui mode04:51
ccookedirkvdbroek: you have: Option          "UseInternalAGPGART"    "off"04:51
jbroomethat's a feature04:51
dirkvdbroekccooke, would you be so kind to post your xorg.conf  so I can compare?04:51
ccookedirkvdbroek: in your xorg.conf?04:51
dirkvdbroekyes04:51
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Storkccooke, now my game doesn't work04:52
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mindlaceso i'm wondering what addl level of work i should do -04:52
ccookedirkvdbroek: sure. Mine's a two monitor setup for my laptop (so it works fine without two)04:52
Weskerhttp://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8250349906&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=104:52
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mindlacetry to make my own deb?04:52
mindlacetry to talk to the maintainers?04:52
dirkvdbroekI'm on a pc here, but shouldnt differ04:52
dirkvdbroekis there a file dump on this channel somewhere?04:52
MacSlowMadpilot, michuk: ehm... how to enable sshd under Ubuntu 5.10?04:53
mindlaceMacSlow: apt-get install ssh04:53
mindlaceor04:53
mindlacesudo /etc/init.d/sshd start04:53
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dirkvdbroekccooke, would you know how to conveniently dump a config file here?04:54
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ccookedirkvdbroek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/689304:54
steven__when running k3b to burn cds should i be a superuser or ?04:54
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robotsghey folks, settin up ndiswrap to bring up wlan0 on boot. I added ndiswrapper to /etc/modules and added iface wlan0 inet and 2 lines for essid/mode below in /etc/network/interfaces... anything else?04:54
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Madpilotsteven__: you shouldn't have to be04:55
ccookedirkvdbroek: try using that file as-is (the resolutions are likely wrong, but X should auto-detect and correct that for you)04:55
ccookedirkvdbroek: (if not... just change them)04:55
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mindlacedirirkvdbrook: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting04:55
steven__Madpilot, ok ty04:55
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n00dleHi there. Was just wondering how i might find out if I have apache installed on my ubuntu box.04:56
dirkvdbroekccooke, I will know enough when I get the same error - that it's not in the xorg.conf files04:56
dirkvdbroekand that I should start 'cleaning up'04:56
Madpilotn00dle: it's not there by default, AFAIK...04:56
ccookedirkvdbroek: ah, wait - you'll need to change the PCI entries, I expect04:56
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gnomefreakn00dle, locate apache04:56
mindlacen00dle: dpkg -l | grep apache04:56
ccookedirkvdbroek: you can get the correct ones from lspci04:56
n00dlemaddler - Cool.04:56
n00dlebut yeah, dpkg is what i was looking for.04:56
dirkvdbroekccooke, I know04:56
ccookedirkvdbroek: if there's only one entry there, use the same twice.04:57
mindlaceI am also suddenly fond of "wajig", n00dle - it is kind of like a super-apt04:57
steven__if i may ask, what is openoffice? from what i can tell its a Microsoft Word for linux but what extensions are the files saved in, and can they be opened in microsoft word?04:57
n00dlehm wajig..04:57
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mindlacesudo apt-get install wajig && wajig list-commands04:57
n00dlei sees.04:57
n00dlei'll grab that, thanks.04:57
Madpilotsteven__: OpenOffice can read MS formats, MSOffice can't read OOo04:58
steven__Madpilot, aw :(04:58
Madpilotsteven__: but OOo can save in MS formats if you need it to...04:58
gnomefreakMadpilot, and peopel wonder why OOo is better :)04:58
steven__Madpilot, just asking because i have alot of reports to do under MSOffice for a class im taking04:58
Myrtti"MS formats"04:58
steven__yes thats what i need04:58
mindlaceIt is very hard to maintain a php5 machine and use debian/ubuntu packages04:58
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n00dleErrrr.04:59
Ngit's not that hard04:59
steven__and i would rather use something on linux than having to pirate a copy of MSOffice because i damn sure as hell am not going to go buy it04:59
Catch22well, it DOES recognize my wlan card _O_04:59
Ngthere are php5 packages knocking about04:59
Madpilotsteven__: OOo for Windows exists too04:59
steven__Madpilot, no windows. i want linux ;)04:59
Ngin fact php5 is in ubuntu04:59
edoardosoundray, dude, you still there?05:00
steven__Madpilot, but OOo can save in MSOffice types so i can open the files in MSOffice in school to print it?05:00
n00dleerr.05:00
edoardosoundray, had to leave, prolly missed your answer : )05:00
n00dlewhy can't a su to root.05:00
n00dlei dont even remember setting a root password in installation.05:00
Madpilotn00dle: use sudo, not su05:00
mindlaceI have no problem with the php5 packages, it's the dependencies of other php software like horde and whatnot that are obnoxious05:00
jordo23n00dle: sudo sh05:00
n00dlei did.. and it failed.05:00
Madpilot!tell n00dle about sudo05:00
n00dlepackage wajig has no installation candidate.05:00
Madpilotn00dle: use your own user pw05:00
n00dlesudo fails with it.05:01
netstarwhat font does the ubuntu logo use?05:01
n00dlefor some other reason, probably unrelated.05:01
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_jasonn00dle, do sudo -s05:01
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dirkvdbroekccooke, just as I was afraid of: I have more severe problems than these05:01
dirkvdbroek(EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENODEV"05:01
dirkvdbroek(EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP05:01
dirkvdbroekagain!05:01
mindlacedunno, might want to update, n00dle?05:01
dirkvdbroekthis is with your config05:01
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mathewnetstar, they don't have a font.. it's a custom logo05:01
kane__hey everybody...05:01
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mathewfrom the faq on the site05:02
ccookedirkvdbroek: ... heh. ls -l /dev/agpgart?05:02
netstarthanks matthew05:02
mathewsure05:02
kane__does anyone know how to use jackd ???05:02
n00dleokay, that works05:02
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ccookedirkvdbroek: are you in the video group?05:02
n00dlebut still05:02
mathewlet me look for the link just to make sure I'm not lying to you by mistake05:02
n00dlei think wajig is broken.05:02
mindlaceprobably want to update your /etc/apt/sources.list to include universe n00dle05:02
dirkvdbroekcrw-rw----  1 root video 10, 175 2006-01-10 16:05 /dev/agpgart05:02
n00dlehm, ok05:02
dirkvdbroekdefinately there05:02
dirkvdbroekroot is05:02
ccookedirkvdbroek: (although that shouldn't matter)05:02
dirkvdbroekand my username too05:02
Madpilotnetstar: there's a font called "Ubuntu Title" that you can get off the Ubuntu wiki05:02
dirkvdbroekI guess that's setup ok05:02
mindlacemaybe also that other place (basically uncomment out the lines)05:02
mindlacethen apt-get update05:02
netstarthank Madpilot05:02
dirkvdbroekarg. weird, stuff05:03
_jasonubotu, tell netstar about art05:03
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_jasonnetstar, I think it is somewhere around there05:03
Catch22how can i change my network name in ubuntu ?05:03
ccookedirkvdbroek: right. try a reboot. The ATI cards can get a touch odd after you've tried strange things with them05:03
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soundrayCatch22, do you mean the domain name or the hostname?05:04
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n00dleokay, i uncommented the lines in sources.list and am updating.05:04
Catch22host05:04
Madpilotnetstar: Ubuntu Title is on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing05:04
n00dleit's kinda strange.. making a connection to something takes absolutely ages.05:04
soundrayCatch22, edit /etc/hostname05:04
alekandrAnyone know how to add something too run on boot?05:04
n00dlei'm getting full speed downloads, but even http get's take like 10 seconds.05:04
thegladiator!image05:04
ubotuI haven't a clue, thegladiator05:04
dirkvdbroekccooke, I'll try. however, according to a quick google, the error I'm getting is related to bad kernel agp drivers.05:05
soundrayn00dle, sounds like your first DNS entry times out.05:05
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_jasonn00dle, disable ipv605:05
dirkvdbroekI might try to reinstall breezy tonight - i never intended to spend much time on that system, just try out stuff and run mplayer05:05
dirkvdbroekgetting quite sick of this ;)05:05
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mindlacealekandr: add a script to /etc/rc.5.d05:06
alekandrthanks05:06
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gnomefreak_jason, is there a dapper artwork?05:06
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mindlaceor, to be a little more "proper", add a script to /etc/init.d that accepts "start" "stop" "restart" as arguments and link it to /etc/rc.5.d05:06
mathewnetstar .. I knew I had read it somewhere... find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for /proc: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver.  Automatically turning on find's -noleaf option.  Earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched.05:06
mathewshit.. sorry05:06
_jasongnomefreak, no idea05:06
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mathewhttp://lists.ubuntulinux.org/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-May/036103.html05:07
gnomefreakok ty just checking05:07
Elsan_How does OSS-ALSA emulation work? Can I hear multiple sounds including from an OSS app?05:07
kane__after I install any program it writes this:   E: lilypond-data: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1. What is it??? how can I get rid of it???05:07
mindlaceCan anyone tell me what to do to get the stable current version of slapd (that actually works with a 2.6x kernel) into ubuntu?05:07
mindlaceLike, what my next step should be?05:07
Seveasnvidia05:08
Seveas!nvidia05:08
ubotuI heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736805:08
Seveas!password05:08
ubotuSeveas: I haven't a clue05:08
Seveas!passwords05:08
ubotuSeveas: Are you on ritalin?05:08
mindlaceI could try to make a replacement package for the current 2.2.23 that is in ubuntu05:08
Seveas!password is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StrongPasswords05:08
ubotuSeveas: okay05:08
Ngmindlace: I'm just running the one that's in main and it seems fine05:08
n00dleCool.05:08
Ng2.2.2605:08
Catch22soundray how do i edit that file?05:08
Seveas!passwords is <reply> see password05:08
ubotuokay, Seveas05:08
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n00dleWajig installed, and now i'm running install apache205:08
mindlaceDo you have multiple CPU's, Ng?05:08
n00dleseems to be going okay.05:08
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Ngmindlace: nope05:08
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mindlacecool!05:08
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soundrayCatch22, e.g. 'sudo gedit /etc/hostname'05:09
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aegis there a vpn package installed on 5.10 ?05:09
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tokyoaheadwhat is the standard root password for new ubuntu installs??05:10
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n00dleits locked.05:10
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mindlaceNg: it's a concurrency problem with multiple accesses & multiple processes involving slapd and sched_yield()05:10
ccooketokyoahead: there isn't one.05:10
ccooke!root05:10
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.05:10
mindlaceNg: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0508.2/0511.html05:10
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Madpilottokyoahead: use sudo & your user pw instead05:10
mindlaceAnyway, on my dual athlon it takes many, many seconds to respond to queries if >1 user is bound05:10
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gnomefreakapg looks cool :)05:10
Catch22where do i set the resolution for the login screen ?05:11
Storkmehi, i am having trouble playing quake4 on ubuntu. it keeps telling me it "Couldn't find matching GLX visual". I have the latest nvidia drivers installed, i don't know what the problem is05:11
lowman62hey gnomefreak wassup?05:11
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gnomefreakCatch22, i dont think you can atleast the only way i found was to set a different log-in screen05:11
gnomefreakgm lowman6205:11
aegpls advice a address for my sources.list !05:11
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gnomefreak!easysource05:12
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ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic05:12
Madpilot!tell aeg about sources05:12
lowman62gnomefreak: gm :)05:12
j2daoshok... just noticed something that might explain why my comp just up and restarts on its own on me... i have the i686 kernel... next to the distro info it says testing/unstable.... why is that?05:12
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aegthx05:12
gnomefreakj2daosh, what version ar eyou running?05:13
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Storkmehi, i am having trouble playing quake4 on ubuntu. it keeps telling me it "Couldn't find matching GLX visual". I have the latest nvidia drivers installed, i don't know what the problem is. How can i tell what my graphics card drivers are? i did "apt-get install nvidia-glx" and it worked fine, but i still can't get them to work05:13
j2daoshand what sys log do i need to turn on to find out what is going on when it just decides to restart05:13
j2daosh2.6.12-10-38605:13
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gnomefreakj2daosh, any dapper or etch repos enabled?05:13
CarinArrstorkme, do you have the latest drivers or the latest ones available through synaptic?05:13
j2daoshlol any wha?05:14
Catch22is there some tools which allows me to view and connect available networks?05:14
Storkmeyeh, i just said05:14
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CarinArrheh you can't answer yes to an or question05:14
j2daoshi dont know about dapper but i got the multiverse and universe repos05:14
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Storkmeoh sorry i misread05:14
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StorkmeCarinArr, from synaptic05:14
gnomefreakj2daosh, than im not sure :(05:14
j2daoshdapper comes out in april eh?05:15
thegladiatornetstar, are you there ?05:15
gnomefreak20th05:15
netstaryeah05:15
gnomefreakgive or take05:15
CarinArrthere are actually ones that are much more recent, you might want to try those.. but you'd have to get them from nvidia05:15
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j2daoshis that when its stable for final release or will it still be in beta phase?05:15
thegladiatorhere is the photo I took with my digital cam , for my memtest86+ ------------- > http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc002956kh.jp05:15
soundrayStorkme, have you changed /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?05:15
thegladiatorcan someone tell me if the memory is really damaged ?05:15
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Storkmesoundray, what do i change it to?05:15
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thegladiatora full block of 256 looks destroyed05:16
cellulenoireplz i need help05:16
soundrayStorkme, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:16
thegladiatorhttp://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc002956kh.jpg05:16
soundrayStorkme, select nvidia instead of nv for the drivers.05:16
CarinArryou can just run glxconfig...05:16
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Storkmeok05:16
thegladiatortypo before ... the real thing is ^05:16
soundrayStorkme, ubotu also has some info...05:17
CarinArrmight be easier:)05:17
soundrayubotu, tell Storkme about nvidia05:17
tokyoaheadhow do I get aditional software like thunderbird? is ther something like yum or emerge in ubuntu?05:17
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thegladiatoris my memory damaged netstar ?05:17
yggdrasil_tokyoahead sudo synaptic05:17
yggdrasil_or sudo apt-get05:17
yggdrasil_is the cmd line version05:17
Catch22is there some tools which allows me to view and connect available networks?05:18
thegladiatorcan someone see this memtest86+ result and tell me  if it is damaged ?05:18
netstaryes thegladiator05:18
wogiGood morning, ubuntuians!05:18
thegladiatorI can ask for a replacement correct ? its a case of damaged mem right ?05:18
Storkmesoundray, do i need to restart the xserver now?05:18
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lowman62wogi: gm :)05:18
Madpilotthegladiator: it's new memory?05:19
thegladiatoryeah less than a year05:19
thegladiatori bought it in FEB 200505:19
thegladiatorand this is how it fares05:19
MacSlowMadpilot: after apt-get install ssh openssh-server /etc/init.d/sshd is still not found05:19
thegladiatorits almost completely damaged05:19
MacSlowMadpilot, is there another package still needed?05:19
soundrayStorkme, yes. Best to also run 'sudo depmod -a' and reboot if you haven't done so since the nvidia package install.05:19
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thegladiatorcould this be caused due to dust or something ?05:19
thegladiatorMadpilot, that cud be caused due to dust05:20
thegladiator?05:20
soundraythegladiator, very unlikely. I think your memory is properly fouled up.05:20
thegladiatorah05:20
Storksoundray, after doing that, the xserver gives me this error: "Error: API mismatch: The NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but this X module is version 1.0.7667. Please be sure that your kernel module and all nvidia driver files have the same driver version"05:21
thegladiatorso i am gonna ask for replacement05:21
Madpilot!tell MacSlow about ssh05:21
n00dlehm, how do i restart apache?05:21
MadpilotMacSlow: I've only set SSH up once, have a look at that wiki page for more05:21
edoardosoundray, awright, i'm here : )05:21
MacSlowMadpilot, cool thanks for the pointer!05:21
edoardosoundray, also, can i have a tip about rsync?05:21
thegladiatori have been having many inconsistencies with Win XP and ubuntu . thank god ubuntu has a memtest enabled , othersie I would have never found out this problem05:22
soundrayStork, okay, this is probably fixed by 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)' and rebooting.05:22
Madpilot!tell n00dle about apache05:22
soundrayStorkme, okay, this is probably fixed by 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)' and rebooting.05:22
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thegladiatormemtest86+ is a must feature for every desk/laptop05:22
soundraySorry Stork, if you're listening.05:22
Madpilotn00dle: that link has start/stop/restart comands for Apache05:22
soundrayedoardo, I'll to help if I can.05:22
soundray*try to05:22
meepy!tell meepy about ssh05:23
Storksoundray, i'm already on the latest version, it says05:23
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soundrayStork, have you rebooted after installing linux-restri...05:23
tokyoaheadwhat package type do usually need for ubuntu when downloading software? redhat? debian?05:23
soundray?05:23
Storksoundray, yeh05:24
dirkvdbroekccooke, ok, thanks for you help, off to do other things!05:24
Storksoundray, i just did05:24
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lowman62n00dle: I believe it is /etc/init.d/apache2 restart05:24
ccookedirkvdbroek: no problem. Good luck.05:24
Catch22is there some tools which allows me to view and connect available networks?05:24
edoardosoundray, like if i do rsync -az /media/IAUDIO/VOICE . and in '.' there's a directory called VOICE, will it overwrite the files with new ones if they have the same name, or if some files are identical will it notice that and not update'em? it's an efficiency question really : )05:24
soundrayStork, did you do the depmod thing?05:24
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John138671ho05:25
lowman62be back after lunch..laterz05:25
tokyoaheadis there a rpm packaga of thunderbird I can download on ubuntu? there is nothing on syanptic and apt-get05:25
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soundrayedoardo, rsync overwrites target files with same-name source files, unless they are identical already. That's its big advantage over cp.05:26
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kane__How do I run JACK server???05:27
edoardosoundray, that's what i wanted to know : )05:27
edoardosoundray, thankyou dude! : )05:27
soundrayedoardo, note the --dry-run and --backup options for when you're playing with rsync.05:27
edoardosoundray, uh, and about the sync option with gnome-volume-manager?05:27
computerdudeWhat does checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables05:28
computerdude mean? I'm trying to get eggdrop working.05:28
Storksoundray, no i didn't, i'll try that now05:28
wbtokyoahead: sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird05:28
soundrayedoardo, you must have not been listening... I couldn't find any way to mount -o sync with gnome-volume-manager.05:28
Madpilotcomputerdude: have you installed build-essential?05:28
edoardosoundray, yeah, was away for a while : ) too bad you couldn't find any : )05:29
computerdudeProblay not, Do i need build-essential?05:29
soundrayedoardo, you will need to educate your dad about not removing USB sticks too early...05:29
computerdudeI'm installing it now. I'll see what it does.05:29
Madpilotcomputerdude: it's got the compilers & stuff05:29
computerdudeOk05:29
edoardosoundray, well... how early? does it change every time?05:29
tokyoaheadwb I just found that out but I get some error saying its not avail. but is referred to by another package... what does that mean?05:29
jordo23Anyone here from Canada?  I have a question about canadian ISP's.05:29
thegladiatorc compiler problems are caused mainly due to lack of essentials05:29
Sannekane__: hold on05:29
soundrayedoardo, the safe answer is: Remove after unmounting, not before.05:30
kane__Sanne, OK05:30
edoardosoundray, awright, i'll just tell him then : )05:30
edoardosoundray, thankyou dude! : )05:30
Madpilotjordo23: .ca here - what's up?05:30
soundrayedoardo, unmounting is easy enough.05:30
soundrayedoardo, welcome.05:30
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simon_ive just installed ubuntu.05:30
simon_looks very nice. goodjob05:30
computerdudeThanks, it's compiling now.05:30
jordo23MadPilot: I am a network admin and we have a company in canada, do you know who are the major players there as far as T1 service?05:31
wbtokyoahead, i am not sure, it should be available, cause it is in a ubuntu support repository05:31
Storksoundray, same problem05:31
Elsan_How does OSS-ALSA emulation work? Can I hear multiple sounds including from an OSS app?05:31
Madpilotjordo23: no idea, actually...05:31
tokyoaheadwb is there a way to search at-get?05:31
alekandrAnyone know how to change the server signature on apache?05:32
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Elsan_jordo23: The one I know of is Sympatico in Quebec, I don't know if Videotron offers T105:32
Madpilottokyoahead: use Synaptic, it's got search05:32
Storksoundray, "Error: API mismatch: The NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but this X module is version 1.0.7667. Please be sure that your kernel module and all nvidia driver files have the same driver version"05:32
soundrayStork, you seem to have found a bug, then.05:32
Sannekane__: just to clarify: you mean the low latency audio server?05:32
wbtokyoahaed, try synaptic05:32
kane__Sanne, yes.05:32
tokyoaheadwb I ried out but its greyed out05:32
Sannekane__: I'm finding a forum post for you, sec05:32
tokyoaheadthunderbid that is05:32
Storksoundray, congrats for me05:32
soundrayStork, I have a laptop with nvidia stuff here, I'll boot it and try the update on it if you're patient.05:33
Storkok thanks05:33
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jordo23Thanks guys05:33
Storki'm getting annoyed with ubuntu now, it's soo difficult to game05:33
wbtokyoahead, sry I don't know why it is greyed out.05:33
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tokyoaheadok05:33
soundrayStork, no reason to get annoyed with Ubuntu.05:33
Storkwell i'm considering going back to windows05:34
soundrayStork, your ire should go to NVidia. Things would be so much easier if they opened their hw specs.05:34
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Storkall i really want to do is game, and it takes hours to set up quake405:34
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ejofee_in kde / kcontrol / appearance and themes / [desktop's]  background: when i press the "get new wallpapers" [from the internet] , a window *immediately* pops up on which is written "empty page" (so it won't download any wallpaper). can anybody please help me?05:34
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Sannekane__: setup instructions: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=562993#post56299305:35
Sannekane__: background: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=552543#post55254305:35
soundrayStork, what made you go to Ubuntu in the first place?05:35
Sannekane__: that's it :)05:36
kane__Sanne, thanx a lot...05:36
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Sannekane__: you're welcome05:36
soundrayStork, btw, did you run apt-get update before you installed the glx and restricted stuff?05:36
Storksoundray, because i'm too poor for windows05:36
CarinArrstork, it might very well be you need newer drivers.. but linux still involves a certain amount of work when things go wrong.. it isn't windows.05:37
ManifoldHey05:37
grundoim on linux side!05:37
soundrayStork, I can sympathize with that :)05:37
Storkit's curious, it worked a while ago05:37
ManifoldI'm using Sylpheed 2.1.1, how do I view my inbox on a POP3 server without downloading from it?05:37
Storkthen i reboot and it stops working05:37
CarinArrStork, hmm.. have you updated the linux kernel?05:37
Storkyes05:38
Storkcan i get the old kernel back?05:38
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soundrayCarinArr, at least it's possible to do the work. In Windows, when you're stuck, you're stuck (often enough).05:38
Sannekane__: if you don't care for realtime audio, you can start jack comfortably with the qjackctl gui, though, and won't need rtlimits.05:38
soundrayStork, what's your uname -r output?05:38
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Lockewhat is a good program for writing floppy images?05:39
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Stork2.6.12-10-38605:39
Dr_WillisLocke,  'dd'    is normally used for that05:39
computerdudeWhat all do i install to have TCL running right?05:39
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kane__Sanne, OK I'll try that and see...05:39
Sannekane__: good luck05:39
LockeDr_Willis: and that is?05:39
Storksoundray, 2.6.12-10-38605:39
soundrayStork, do you use synaptic for package management?05:39
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Storknope05:39
Dr_WillisLocke,  thats the name of the command  ' dd '05:39
Storkwell i did05:39
CarinArrstork, if you upgraded from 2.6.12-9 to 2.6.12-10 you will probably have the earlier kernel as an option in grub05:40
Storksoundray, i did when i had xserver working05:40
LockeDr_Willis: i tried it and nothing happened05:40
CarinArrwhen you boot05:40
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StorkCarinArr, originally i had the one that came on the 5.10 install disk05:40
Dr_WillisLocke,  dd if=floppy.image of=/dev/fd0 or similer. Its used all the time to make and write images like that05:40
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CarinArrStork, try rebooting, and seeing what options you have in grub05:40
Storkhmm ok05:40
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CarinArrthe top one would be the most recent one, try going down one version number from that if you can05:41
LockeDr_Willis: anything else to use?05:42
CarinArri'm using the latest kernel, but it doesn't work with the nvidia drivers in synaptic, i had to get the ones from nvidia05:42
chris_hi all, new to ubuntu and linux, but its very rewarding if you make the effort.05:42
soundrayStork, good hint from CarinArr. You may have to hit Esc during boot to see the grub menu.05:42
Dr_WillisLocke,  never really needed anything else :P05:42
Storksoundray, CarinArr, VICTORY! the old kernel works fine05:42
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Dr_WillisLocke,  could use cat, or cp also i guess05:42
LockeDr_Willis: then your gonna have to help me a little :-\05:42
Storksoundray, CarinArr, so i guess the new kernel just doesn't have a supporting nvidia driver yet?05:43
Dr_WillisLocke,  'dd' is a simple 'data dump' type tool. it just takes data from one source and copies it to another.  whats the exact issue you are having.05:43
soundrayStork, you can probably just uninstall the newer one then, and grub will boot into the working one by default.05:43
soundrayStork, yes, it looks like it.05:43
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CarinArrStork, i dunno.. it might be we're just unlucky and it works to others.. i got it working with the new nvidia drivers, but it's more faffing about than using the ones in synaptic05:43
LockeDr_Willis: i'm trying to make a floppy disk with Smartboot on it05:44
CarinArrbut i have to use software that needs drivers that are newer than the synaptic ones, so i don't have much choice;)05:44
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Dr_WillisLocke,  not siure what you mean by 'make'  and not sure what 'smartboot' is.   you mean  you are just tryring to get some floppy.image you downloaded to a real floppy disk?05:45
Storkmy game still doesn't work lol05:45
monyetzmake05:45
CarinArrstork, did the game use to work?05:45
LockeDr_Willis: in a nutshell, yes05:45
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Dr_WillisLocke,  that takes us back to the orginal dd command line i gave.05:45
StorkCarinArr, yeah05:45
CarinArrstork, weird.. same error as before?05:46
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LockeDr_Willis: well i played with it a little and now my floppy drive SOUNDS like it's working... but it has been sounding like that for a little while now05:46
StorkCarinArr, nope, a wierd new one05:46
CarinArrwhat's it say now?05:46
Storkone sec05:46
Dr_WillisLocke,  not much i can help ya with till it either gets done - or spits out an error. :P it can take some time..05:47
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LockeDr_Willis: well, it says done, so lets try this thing out05:47
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soundrayStork, do you get sensible output from glxinfo? You could put it up on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for us to see. Your weird error, too.05:47
Storkmeok05:47
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Guardianhow to have suspend to disk working on my laptop ? do i need to recompile the kernel ?05:48
LockeDr_Willis: sweet, it worked (btw, smartboot is a disk that is used to boot Ubuntu from older computers that don't support booting from a CD Drive, it just boots from the floppy and tells the PC to go to the CD drive instead)05:48
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LockeDr_Willis: thanks05:48
Storkmesoundray, CarinArr, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/689505:49
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Dr_WillisLocke,  :P i imatgine theres a smarttool wiki page then that detailed exactly what i told  ya :P05:49
soundrayGuardian, no. Just look at the laptop-mode-tools package.05:49
Dr_WillisLocke,  heh - i have exactly 1 pc now that has a floppy disk.. out of like 505:49
Storkmesoundray, and i can't use glxinfo - it says "Segmentation fault"05:49
Guardiansoundray: thx05:49
alekandrWhy are the forums not working :|05:49
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LockeDr_Willis: yeah, well i'm going to college and paying rent, so computers are hard to come by for me05:50
soundrayStorkme, uh oh.05:50
Storkmeuh oh?05:50
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Dr_WillisLocke,  Linux helps ya save $$ :p05:50
tokyoaheadwhat is the std. boot manager of ubuntu?05:50
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alekandrgnome TokenBad05:51
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Dr_WillisForums seem to be down.05:51
alekandrgnome tokyoahead05:51
alekandrthats what i just said Dr_Willis05:51
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Dr_WillisI think he may mean GRUB. :P05:51
soundrayStorkme, that won't be easy to track down and/or fix. Could even be a hardware fault.05:51
alekandrnot gnome05:51
alekandrGRUB05:51
alekandrman :/05:51
Dr_Willis:P05:51
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Storkmesoundray, oh good05:51
alekandroh man05:51
tokyoaheadalekandr thanks :-)05:51
alekandrlost it there05:51
soundrayStorkme, at least you're taking it in good spirit.05:51
CarinArrstorkme, i reckon there are two things you can try.. you can try uninstalling the newer kernel, and then reinstalling the nvidia driver05:51
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tokyoaheadHow do I set up grub? I cannot find a conf ind /etc05:52
Storkmehow do i uninstall the newer kernel?05:52
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computerdudeWhere can I get TCL for eggdrop?05:52
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Dr_Willistokyoahead,  because its in /boot/grub :P05:52
tokyoaheadhehe thanks :-)05:52
nate2006hi everyone05:52
Dr_Willistokyoahead,  it may be worth wile  to read a few grub tutorials :)05:52
CarinArrStorkme, second thing you can try to do is remove everything to do with nvidia, including the linux-restricted-modules. go back to the newer kernel, and install the drivers you get from nvidia directly..05:52
nate2006I'm new to this linux based OS05:53
soundrayStorkme, 'sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.6.12-10-386' I think...05:53
Dr_Willistokyoahead,  heh heh. lilo config is normally in /etc/lilo.conf05:53
zAo^forum down?05:53
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Ngcomputerdude: tcl8.4 is in main, so sudo apt-get install tcl8.405:53
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LockeDr_Willis: Linux helps you save $$ and sanity05:53
soundraynate2006, welcome to Ubuntu then.05:53
nate2006is there a chat or some info that would be good for a newbie05:53
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computerdudeThanks Ng05:53
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nate2006ty05:53
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Dr_WillisLocke,  yep. and it ups your Leet-Level!05:54
computerdudeNg: Do I need to restart?05:54
Madpilotnate2006: right here, or ubuntuforums.org05:54
Ngcomputerdude: no :)05:54
nate2006cool05:54
Dr_Willisnate2006,  also #linux, and #linuxhelp05:54
LockeDr_Willis: wow... lol05:54
e_machinistI had to move my linux box into my bedroom... cause there is a leak in the roof above my desk... yikes.05:54
computerdudeHmm, well it's already installed on, but I still can compile eggdrop. It says   Tcl cannot be found on this system.05:54
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nate2006I just found out today that I can get source code and alter it to anything I want05:54
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narlesanyone know how to fix this problem when i open up a . jar file...? /usr/share/themes/ish-Smooth/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:103: Engine "smooth" is unsupported, ignoring05:55
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nate2006that sound cool05:55
tokyoaheadis there a gnome application to setup grub ? (what is default etc)05:55
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soundraynate2006, it is. Even if you never actually do it, the benefits of free source availability are massive.05:55
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StorkCarinArr, soundray: you guys are my gods05:56
e_machinisttokyoahead: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=grub&titlesearch=Titles05:56
studentDuring the "Copy remaining packages to hard disk" stage, I receive an error:  "archive-copier: error: `cp -a "/cdrom/pool/main/x/xscreensaver/xscreensaver-data_4.21-4ubuntu17_i386.deb" "/target/var/cache/archive-copier/desktop/xscreensaver-data_4.21-4ubuntu17_i386.deb"` failed with code 1".05:56
studentDoes anyone know what this is?05:56
soundrayStork, careful!05:56
StorkCarinArr, soundray: it works fine. Beers & curry on me!05:56
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CarinArrStork, cool, glad that my hours of trying to bloody figure out why the damn things don't work could be of help05:57
soundrayStork, you might get struck by lightning from another god.05:57
CarinArrheh05:57
Storkmeh, oh well05:57
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n00dleHm.05:57
soundrayStork, so you're quaking now?05:58
n00dleOkay, so apache is running and i've set a directory with Options Indexes05:58
Storkindeed05:58
n00dlei can see the html files inside the folder showing up fine on the webserver05:58
Storkmy pc is "leet"05:58
Storkfor gaming05:58
n00dlebut i get 'permission denied' trying to access any file.05:58
Storkexcept the cpu :\05:58
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soundrayStork, well done. Good work, CarinArr!05:58
studentI think ubuntu is not created enough space in the tmpfs during installation.  How can I increase it?05:58
CarinArrlol soundray i'm still astonished i wasn't the one going "HELP ME" for once05:59
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nooneojla05:59
Storkheh05:59
nooneej a je gdo gor05:59
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nooneprvic uporablam to rec05:59
narlesanyone know how to fix this problem when i open up a . jar file...? /usr/share/themes/ish-Smooth/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:103: Engine "smooth" is unsupported, ignoring06:00
netstarnarles, yes06:00
studentwhat is an LVM volume and do I need it?06:00
netstarInstall the gtk engine smooth06:00
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netstarart.gnome.org under engines06:00
narlesnetstar, thanks, i'll chec it out06:00
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netstarlet's see your screenshot man06:01
soundraystudent, LVM = logical volume management.06:01
studentsoundray: how do I know if I should select this option during installation?06:01
soundraystudent, if you're unsure, don't do it.06:01
Storkthis game is AWESOME on high graphics :)06:01
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netstarwhich game?06:01
BxLwhere is the official ubuntu starter guide?06:02
narlesnetstar, is this what i need.. http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk_engines/67306:02
soundraystudent, the default works well enough, and if one day you find that you need LVM, e.g. for accessing multiple hd's as one large pseudo-partition, you can still read up on it and add it on.06:02
studentokay.  well during installation, during "copying remaining packages to hard disk" I apparently have run out of room on the tmpfs.06:02
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netstarnarles yes06:02
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netstarnarles, wait06:02
netstarapt-get install gtk2-engines-smooth06:02
studentsoundray:  it requires 400MB, but I see my tmpfs does not have that much available.  Is there a way to increase the size of the tmpfs during installation?  Or is there a way to workaround this issue?  Thanks.06:03
narlesnetstar, aight thanks06:03
soundraystudent, not sure - haven't heard of such a problem before.06:03
soundraystudent, how much RAM do you have?06:03
BxLwhere is the official ubuntu starter guide?06:04
studentyou are aware of the "copying remaining files to hard disk" portion of the ubuntu install?06:04
Storkquake406:04
soundraystudent, yes.06:04
Guardiani'm trying to install java. the wiki says "install the java-package package with Synaptic, Miscellaneous - Text Based (multiverse) > java-package"  but i don't have multiverse, what should i do?06:04
netstarStork,  on linux?06:04
narlesnetstar, it says gtk2-engines-smooth is up to date.. but i still get that error when i open up a jar file06:04
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studentsoundray: well, it requires 400MB, but I do a df command and see that I have only 70MB allocated on tmpfs.06:04
kitty_Can Somebody help06:04
studentsoundray:  memtotal = 192016 kB06:04
netstarnarles not sure then sorry06:05
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_jasonkitty_, we can try if you aska  quesiton06:05
Storknetstar, yeah, it's supported06:05
narlesnetstar, ok thanks06:05
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netstarStork, what spec do you have to be able to play it so nicely?06:05
soundraystudent, I don't think this is a tmpfs issue.06:05
kitty_I need to get MP3s Running on my UBUNTU but i just cant seem to get it workin. ive done everything im supposd to but it just wont work...06:05
psusiwhat the hell needs 400 MB in /tmp?06:05
Storki've got an amd x2 4200+, 1gig 400mhz ram, and a nvidia 6600GT with 256mb06:06
_jasonubotu, tell kitty_ about mp306:06
studentsoundray:  well where else would the installation copy the packages to?06:06
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narlesanyone know how to fix this problem when i open up a . jar file...? /usr/share/themes/ish-Smooth/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:103: Engine "smooth" is unsupported, ignoring06:06
soundraystudent, to your root partition.06:06
netstarThat's my ideal machine06:06
tokyoaheadguys I want to install skype. They list a .deb-package for ubuntu. I downloaded and its associated with archive manager which does not open it (Arhcive type not supported) so how can I sintall it?06:06
_jasonkitty_, elaborate on "done everything im supposed to"06:06
netstarI'm stuck with a VERY dodgy laptop and an imac06:06
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studentsoundray: during installation the root partition has not been created as far as I can tell06:06
Storkhehehe06:07
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netstarback tommorow, night all06:07
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psusistudent: the installation creates it obviously, or you wouldn't have a place to install to now would you?06:07
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_xetWhy isnt there any direcotry named /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/06:07
_xet?06:07
soundraystudent, it must have, it wouldn't be copying packages otherwise. Sorry student, have to go. I'll check if you're still around in half an hour.06:07
studentsoundray: psusi:  During the "Copy remaining packages to hard disk" stage, I receive an error:  "archive-copier: error: `cp -a "/cdrom/pool/main/x/xscreensaver/xscreensaver-data_4.21-4ubuntu17_i386.deb" "/target/var/cache/archive-copier/desktop/xscreensaver-data_4.21-4ubuntu17_i386.deb"` failed with code 1".06:08
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tokyoaheadhow do I install a .deb-package in ubuntu?06:08
_xetdpkg -i06:08
tokyoaheador do I need a rpm?06:08
psusistudent: how large did you have the setup program make your root partition?06:08
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studentpsusi:  I chose the default, so I assume the maximum space06:09
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psusistudent: what does df show?06:09
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student During the "Copy remaining packages to hard disk" stage, I receive an error:  "archive-copier: error: `cp -a "/cdrom/pool/main/x/xscreensaver/xscreensaver-data_4.21-4ubuntu17_i386.deb" "/target/var/cache/archive-copier/desktop/xscreensaver-data_4.21-4ubuntu17_i386.deb"` failed with code 1".06:09
studentoops sorry06:09
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student/dev/hda1             12808136   1773288  1038422006:09
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studentit's a 12GB hard drive06:09
studentshould be plenty of space06:09
tokyoaheadthanks _x06:09
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psusistudent: what are the last two columns on that line?  you cut them off06:10
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studentpsusi:  well I have to manually copy this since I am using another computer06:11
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psusistudent: what's the % used space on the one mounted in /target?06:11
student/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 5905972 918044 4687916 16% /target06:11
psusistudent: also do a df -T and make sure the filesystem type is ext306:12
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studentdf: invalid option -- T06:12
psusihrm... that's odd06:13
studentcould it be that my CD is defective on this one spot06:13
psusidid you check it's md5 sum?06:13
studenthow do I do that06:13
psusiwhich block device is it on?  /dev/hdc?06:14
psusithen do md5sum /dev/hdc06:14
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cleostudent: df -T not df --T06:14
psusiand make sure the value matches what it should be according to the web site you downloaded the image from06:15
studentcleo: yes I wrote the command that way.  the error line added the extra - (I don't know why)06:15
tokyoaheadhow can I set my clock in ubuntu to 24hrs- format?06:15
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narlesanyone with ourtunes... from experience.. what controls theme is supported the most with itunes?06:16
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Dreamglideri just opend synaptic, every single package there is marked as installed! i didnt install all of them, what could cause this ?06:18
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psusiDreamglider: you are looking at the list of installed packages, so all of the packages in that list are obviouly installed06:19
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maxhi06:20
Dreamgliderno i'm lookina at the "all" list06:20
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psusiwell that's just weird06:20
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maxhow can i delet the whole kde-desktop06:20
max?06:20
Dreamgliderno problem, i reloaded the list, it looks better now06:21
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_jasonmax, what did you install it with?06:21
Dreamglidermax i belive you can do it in synaptic package manager06:22
deFrysksudp apt-get remove kdebase06:22
deFrysksudo apt-get remove kdebase06:22
tokyoaheadhow can I install a "dynamic binary" .tar.bz2 ?06:22
maxsynaptic06:22
_jasonmax, then you can do 'sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt'.  I've done that personally.  deFrysk's method will probably work too06:23
tokyoaheadok I try06:23
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kitty_My Repositorys wil not update and i keep getting a Warning msg when i try to...can someone tell me whats wrong or wht to do06:23
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deFrysk_jason, your way is fine too06:23
deFryskmore drastic even06:23
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maxthx06:23
max;)06:23
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Baderhi, I got a huge issue with dapper but I'm on a screen console and don't know understand how to copy the output of the dmesg message then paste it..06:24
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gnomefreakkitty_, can you paste the output of sudo apt-get update in pastebin please06:24
Guard] [an[VO] .06:24
kitty_i dunno how06:24
gnomefreak!pastebin06:25
ubotusomebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:25
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Badera shell client for pastebin woul be great in that moment :(06:25
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deFryskkitty_, be more specific (or use pastebin)06:25
Badereverytime I start X it crashes my computer, so I'm stuck with on the terminal06:25
gnomefreakkitty_, just copy and paste the output on that site of sudo apt-get update and put name in than hit send and give us the link to the page after you hit send06:25
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kitty_ok06:26
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gnomefreakBader, did you try gksudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to make sure it sees your video card?06:27
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narlescan you add songs from your PC to your ipod using rhythmbox music player?06:27
Seveas!away06:27
ubotuhmm... away is http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html06:27
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Badergnomefreak: X start successfully, even GNOME start06:28
kitty_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/689806:28
Badergnomefreak: the problem is that then it become freezed06:28
Baderdmesg neither x.org logs told me what had happen :(06:29
monyetzls06:29
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tech9inermoin uMates.. ;] ..06:29
gnomefreakkitty_, can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin please06:29
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gnomefreakBader, did you look on bugzilla for that issue in dapper?06:30
tech9inerso installed off of u 5.0.4 cd's last eve.. then aptgot kde environs and logged into kde side of the u realms ;] ] 06:30
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Badergnomefreak: I'm on a screen. I've now web browser except links/w3m...06:30
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Baderscreen (= GNU Screen)06:30
Syrusd06:30
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tech9inerbut alas.. upon bootup/login im being told 'sound server informational message: error while initializing the sound driver: device: default cant be opened for playback (on such device) the sound server will continue suing the null output device.. '''06:31
kitty_when itry to it ses permision denied06:31
gnomefreakBader, run w3m bugzilla.ubuntu.com06:31
narlescan you add songs from your PC to your ipod using rhythmbox music player?06:31
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gnomefreakkitty_, the command it sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list06:31
tech9inerothers in kubuntu have helped me via lsmod confirm my yamaha YMF-744B is the mobo sound..06:32
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tech9inerany clues muchly appreciated matesNlassies..06:32
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kitty_should i paste the whole file in to pastebin06:33
tech9inermisfit_toy: are ye dead n gone these days mang?... ;] ] ] ] 06:33
Badergnomefreak: bugzilla.ubuntu.org doesn't exists...06:33
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gnomefreakkitty_, yes06:34
Baderdoh! .com !06:34
kitty_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/690006:34
Badersorry!06:34
drayenIm trying to  get SSH tunneling working, i need to tunnel an mySQL connection.06:34
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deFryskdoh!.com ?06:34
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s_spiffhey pppl06:35
gnomefreakkitty_, why do you have more than one sources list06:35
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tech9inermoin s_spiff06:35
kitty_i have no idia06:35
drayeni think i've connected okay, as the network tools active services shows the port being open, but the ip source is set to ::1 - not 127.0.0.1 and it seems to be useing tcp6 - help06:35
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s_spiffhey tech9iner06:35
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narlesdoes anyone know how to safely remove an IPOD using ubuntu??06:36
gnomefreakok kitty hold on let me see if i can fix this and you can get rid of everything in sources list and paste the one that i give you06:36
s_spiff damn, why does this list of names come when i press tab, instead of doin the auto complete crap!06:36
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s_spiffsmall mj joints?06:36
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Badergnomefreak: it's a pain to surf with w3m or links on bugzilla. Could you give me directly the bug number you're thinking about ?06:37
Novatahello06:37
Bader+please :D06:37
gnomefreakBader, give me a few06:37
tokyoaheadcan I install RPMs on ubuntu?06:37
s_spiffhey what client to use to download torrents man?06:38
fusionfoxanyone know  a good web to download GNOME themes??06:38
Seveas!+themes06:38
uboturumour has it, themes is try installing gnome-art (sudo apt-get install gnome-art) and running it from System -> Preferences -> Art Manager (On Breezy). It downloads and installs themes from http://art.gnome.org/ Some other sites with various themes include: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com See also !KDEThemes06:38
NovataCan anyone help me with a little problem that i have???06:38
Elsan_You can use the "alien" package to convert to .deb, tokyoahead.06:38
s_spiff i tried bit-torrent ..its crappy ..in comparison to windows bit-torrent client06:38
Elsan_tokyoahead: But it's not guaranteed to work06:38
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tokyoaheadElsan_ thanks06:38
Dr_Willisgee the original bit-torrent clients i though were about identical under windows and linux. :P06:38
Dr_Williss_spiff,  theres dozens of bittorrent clients out however.06:39
Baderhmm, i'm currently dist-upgrading. udev upgrade is stalled since 5 minutes...06:39
Elsan_tokyoahead: "alien package.rpm"06:39
Elsan_is the command06:39
s_spiffhowever?06:39
BaderIs there any bug report about udev upgrading ?06:39
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Dr_Willisso go find one06:39
Dr_Willis:P06:39
NovataCan anyone help me with a little problem that i have???06:39
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tech9iners_spiff: ive found azureus to be my fav here chum06:39
Dr_WillisNovata,  state the problem and find out.06:39
Catch22-srvwhats the default root pass in ubuntu ?06:39
CarinArrnovata, noone will commit themselves before you ask;)06:39
Catch22-srvor cant i log in as root in the terminal ?06:39
Dr_WillisCatch22-srv,  there is none. its  set to use 'sudo'06:40
Dr_Willis!sudo06:40
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.06:40
s_spiffachha ok..will try that out06:40
Baderdpkg fail to install the new version of /etc/init.d/udev, any ideas for this issue ?06:40
s_spiffwill i get azureus on synaptic?06:40
Novatai dnt understand very well ur english sorry06:40
Dr_Willis!azureus06:40
uboturumour has it, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo06:40
Baderif I kill dpkg now, would it broke udev ?06:40
gnomefreakkitty_, here is a full list of sources please get rid of your and add these http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/690206:41
Dr_WillisNovata,  dont ask to ask.. just state the problem.06:41
tech9inerno clue here s_spiff .. sorry guv.. been on u/kubuntu less than 24 hours.. not sure what synaptic sources have available thusfar mate06:41
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s_spiffhehe ok.. np06:41
tech9inernice bot mates.. kudos to it's keepers ;] ] 06:41
s_spiffwill check it out06:41
kitty_ok..thanks06:41
CarinArr!es06:41
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:41
Bader!i'm somehow in panic :[ (maybe ubotu got help for this)06:41
ubotuBader: Are you smoking crack?06:41
CarinArrheh06:41
Baderhuhu06:42
gnomefreakkitty_, alot of your sources do not exsist any more and not good to use debian repos in ubuntu06:42
gnomefreak!dapper06:42
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.06:42
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gnomefreaktheres a good place to start06:42
Baderubotu: I rather prefer to smoke crack than having my OS broken the day I've a very important work to do... (ok i'm speaking to a bot, it's suspicous...)06:42
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Bader06:42
gnomefreakBader, you dont want broken os use breezy06:43
cjdrayen: any luck tunneling that mysql connection?06:43
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: hello06:43
kitty_do i just delete the whole source list and paste the new one into it06:43
gnomefreakhi C-O-L-T06:43
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C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: could you install the program06:43
tech9inermoin C-O-L-T06:43
gnomefreakC-O-L-T, yes but i didnt do the plug-ins06:43
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: but it worked for you?06:43
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gnomefreakthe install procedure is at www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc06:43
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: you could see the globe and so on?06:44
studentmd5sum /dev/hdc06:44
studentmd5sum: /dev/hdc: Input/output error06:44
gnomefreakgo to the page called worldwind06:44
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Badergnomefreak: yes, I'll do in the future, but actually I thought that broken just mean that some features are broken (like the encoding, btw I don't find how to change my default encoding from utf-8 to iso-8859-15 because my main term don't support it (dpkg-reconfigure locales don't give me the hand)) but not the whole system.06:44
gnomefreakC-O-L-T, i will remind you its in jave and will be very very slow also the package that it comes as has very minimal add-ons to it06:45
gnomefreakBader, dapper is broken06:45
gnomefreaknot packages the whole dapper os06:45
chris_total noob question alert -  how do i delete files in file browser, specifically a file in /var/www/?06:45
BaderI understand know why it's called dapper _drake_ (it reminds me an old distribution I got used with...)06:45
mweBader: what do you expect 1/3 of the way to the final release?06:46
gnomefreakBader, it wont be realed for another 3-4 months06:46
gnomefreakreleased06:46
Badermwe: gnomefreak, I was hypnotised by the hype.06:46
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: anyway i will try it06:46
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gnomefreakok C-O-L-T good luck06:46
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Baderanyhow, could I stop dpkg-reconfigure without big risk ?06:46
HappyFoolchris_: you can't delete stuff in /var/www using nautilus (not usually, at least)06:47
Baderduring the install of udev which is stalled...06:47
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chris_ah. so how would I do it via a terminal?06:47
gnomefreakBader, seeing as dapper is a big risk i dont see a difference06:47
j3diok, where is the ntp.conf file?06:47
Badergnomefreak: wise :)06:47
HappyFoolchris_: either use the 'Run as' dialog box to run nautilus as root, or use the command line06:47
j3dii looked in etc and couldnt find it06:47
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kemikchris_:  if you really want to do it via nautilus, start nautilus as sudo (sudo nautilus)06:47
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: I hope it will wokr06:47
kemiks/as/with06:47
HappyFoolj3di: /etc/ntp.conf ?06:47
j3dinope06:47
gnomefreakmy instructions work fine i installed it as i wrote it06:48
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HappyFoolj3di: hmm, i have one, but it's empty06:48
HappyFoolj3di: you want to change th default time server?06:48
j3diyep06:48
kitty_when i use apt-get update.... iit works but i get this msg.. "Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.06:48
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: ok I will try06:48
kitty_" is this ok06:48
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: I am so excited :)06:48
HappyFoollook in /etc/default/ntpdate06:48
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C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: I hope it is something like google earth06:48
mwej3di: /etc/default/ntpdate06:49
chris_thanks very much.  I did sudo nautilus and deleted that way. Im guessing thats not the neatest way, but it worked. so thanks06:49
tech9inerso mates.. any hints on my failing integrated sound please..06:49
mwe!sound06:49
tech9inerothers in kubuntu have helped me via lsmod confirm my yamaha YMF-744B is the mobo sound..06:49
ubotuI guess sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary06:49
Dreamgliderkde has posibility to have diffrent wallpapers'on each workspace, can this be done with gnome ?06:49
j3ditight thanx06:49
tech9inerbut alas.. upon bootup/login im being told 'sound server informational message: error while initializing the sound driver: device: default cant be opened for playback (on such device) the sound server will continue suing the null output device.. '''06:49
bipolarhas anyone here used hot swap sata in linux?06:49
tech9inertanx mwe ;] ] 06:50
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kitty_Does anyone here know if i can change from gnome to KDE cos its sound alot better06:50
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_jasonkitty_, you can install kubuntu-desktop06:50
bipolarkitty_: join #kubuntu for more info06:50
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gnomefreakC-O-L-T, i never used google earth it was way too heavy06:50
Dreamgliderkitty_, use synaptic to install it06:50
dirkvdbroekhey there what was again that command that configured xorg?06:50
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_jasonkitty_, out of curiousity, what sounds so much better?06:51
j3diok i just installed openssh, and i cant seem to ssh in06:51
Baderdirkvdbroek: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:51
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_jasonj3di, is port 22 being blocked by anything?06:51
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: I like it a lot, I would like some non-online thing but it does not exists as I have seen. For Linux does not06:51
Bader_jason: KDE begins with a K. This letter sounds so good!06:51
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gnomefreakBader, close but i think perfered is gksudo06:51
j3dinope06:51
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: anyway can I get a cedega in deb format?06:51
cello_raspoh dear. i seem to be getting a bunch of problems with synaptic: http://pastebin.com/49952506:51
gnomefreakC-O-L-T, dont know i dont use it06:52
gnomefreak!cedega06:52
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/06:52
j3diit tries to connect but says it was "unable to connect using the preconfigured authentication methods"06:52
cello_raspand i cant find many packages with spm either..06:52
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Badergnomefreak: why a graphical stuff when the configuration tool is only text ? Doesn't this confuse the user ?06:52
j3disorry "configured"06:52
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_jasoncello_rasp, sudo apt-get update, what's that do?06:52
gnomefreakBader, the xsever-xorg is not text its graphical kind of06:52
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gnomefreak!gksudo06:53
ubotusomebody said gksudo was Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root priveleges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.06:53
Baderdpkg-reconfigure isn't gtk, no ?06:53
cello_rasp_jason: it updates but let's see if spm is still affected06:53
Baderneither X, isn't it ?06:53
Catch22-srvwhen i do sudo ifconfig eth1 up it says timer expired?06:53
gnomefreakBader, it is but than again its not its not a plain text config06:53
bipolarBader: no. it's not running in X, it's a console app06:54
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cello_raspthanks _jason that fixed it06:54
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lowman62g'aftnoon room :)06:55
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Badergnomefreak: well, It isn't graphical too, it's an ncurse app, I don't understand why you'll use gksudo which use X when X is unconfigured...06:56
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_jasonwhen I do gksudo nautilus, the icon set seems to be missing.  Everything has a blank page or a red x as an icon.  Anyone know what's going on and what I can do to fix it?06:56
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skeffhi! How can I install the _latest_ nvidia driver?  There is only v7667 in the Ubuntu repository, though the latest is v817806:56
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Bader_jason: If you find tell me :)06:56
trappistskeff: get it from nvidia.com06:56
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s_spiffhey how to install a .tar.gz?06:57
s_spiffi downloaded abc client for linux06:57
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trappists_spiff: first, you extract its contents06:57
s_spiffits in a .tar.gz file06:57
s_spiffok..then?06:57
trappisttar zxf file.tar.gz06:57
trappistthen it depends on what's in it06:57
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studentare there any net-nanny type programs available for ubuntu?  also, are there any lock-down type applications so I can control a public station?  Thanks.06:58
s_spifftrappist, http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/download.php06:58
trappiststudent: dansguardian06:58
s_spiffcan u check it out?06:58
s_spiffand walk me through it?06:58
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C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: You are my hero, it works. You saved me :))) Thanks you again, it works, slower than google earth but it has a lot more details in some point of view06:58
trappists_spiff: no.  look for a README or INSTALL file in the extracted tarball.06:58
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s_spiffok06:58
alekandrC-O-L-T: google earth?06:58
alekandrwhat program you using06:59
NilssonHarHundI've got a Dell latitude X1 and was wondering if someone has yet managed to get the sd-reader to work?06:59
gnomefreakC-O-L-T, im glad your happy if you add on the add-ons it will do more06:59
gnomefreakalekandr, ww2d06:59
alekandrCan I spy on people?06:59
trappiststudent: that is, dansguardian for the first question and bastille-linux for the second06:59
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NilssonHarHundfound a patch, but I'm unsure about how to istall it, and wheter or not it works on my machine06:59
alekandroh noes06:59
Dreamglideris there anything like Cedega that is free of charge ?07:00
alekandrtrappist: i wouldnt suggest bastille, its a bit combersome, and more int-adv and could fuck things up07:00
alekandrDreamglider: wine is free07:00
lowman62gnomefreak: ww2d is like google earth?07:00
trappistDreamglider: there's the cvs version of cedega07:00
Cry_Mac_Ubuntu!java-debs07:00
ubotuCry_Mac_Ubuntu: Not a clue07:00
Baderfine, I did a dist-upgrade, It works n07:00
gnomefreaklowman62, yes similar07:00
Baderthanks gnomefreak07:00
C-O-L-Talekandr: http://www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc/worldwind.htm07:00
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gnomefreakBader, yw07:00
Baderand about encoding, why dpkg-reconfigure locales don't let me change the encoding ?07:01
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Baderand how to change the default encoding ?07:01
lowman62is that available through sudo apt-get install ?07:01
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C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: thanks again and who asks about google earth just say to him or her your page, because you have done a good step by step easy guide07:01
s_spifftrappist, it has quite a few .py files07:01
gnomefreaklowman62, no07:01
studenttrappist: neither one of those packages show up in my synaptic.  Do I need to enable a certain repository?07:01
s_spiffone names setupabc.py07:01
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trappists_spiff: try sudo python setupabc.py07:01
s_spiffbut when i try it ./setupabc , it doesn't work07:01
lowman62gnomefreak: may I know where you can get it?07:02
gnomefreaklowman62, hold on let me get the dirct page to my site the site for it is on there07:02
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lowman62ok thanks :)07:02
s_spifftrappist, it gave me an error..  ImportError: No module named py2exe07:03
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gnomefreaklowman62, http://www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc/worldwind.htm07:03
trappists_spiff: can't help ya there.  you'll need to refer to the documentation.07:03
zAo^can some1 plz sent me his metacity-theme-1.xml ?07:03
lowman62gnomefreak: thank you :)07:04
gnomefreaki will be putting the site in html on the webpages page07:04
gnomefreakyw07:04
trappistzAo^: I have a dozen of those07:04
zAo^:)07:04
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zAo^where I start gnome-theme-manager I get:07:04
trappistzAo^: one for each theme07:04
s_spifftrappist, it says : in bash shell set "export BROWSER=$BROWSER:Konqueror"  if i use Konqueror07:04
s_spiffwhat will that do?07:04
zAo^indowmanager waarschuwing:Kan thema niet uit bestand /usr/share/themes/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml lezen: Openen van bestand '/usr/share/themes/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml' mislukt: No such file or directory07:04
mcphailA question for the panel: fetchmail or getmail? Which do you trust on your box?07:05
trappists_spiff: that will add konqueror to your $BROWSER environment variable07:05
trappistfetchmail if I were to run either07:05
zAo^trappist, you know what is wrong? need the default metacity one :)07:05
bluefoxicyhttp://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326496  Here's something ridiculous for you07:05
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C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: I will always hava to open the program with java -jar?07:06
bluefoxicyCan you believe these tards actually put the userlist in as a pop-up instead of a list?07:06
trappistzAo^: I have no idea which is the default07:06
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: I can not get an icon07:06
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bluefoxicy(and the new ubuntu desktop in dapper installs xchat-gnome)07:06
trappistC-O-L-T: you could write a small wrapper script07:06
_jasonBader, ok I figured it out :) (the icon thing).  You have to create a symlink to your user's ~/.icon in /root/07:06
s_spiffand what does that do?07:06
zAo^trappist, plz send me /usr/share/themes/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml07:06
mcphailI hadn't heard of getmail until today. The FAQ is vitriolic about fetchmail07:06
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gnomefreakC-O-L-T, that how i was running it if you give me some more time i can prolly find out how to make that a launcher for you panel07:06
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C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: thanks. Why this small program is so complicated? Why simply can not be a deb file like other normal application07:07
gnomefreakC-O-L-T, what is the full command?07:07
gnomefreakto run it07:07
trappistzAo^: closest match I have is usr/share/themes/Human/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml07:07
trappistzAo^: provided by ubuntu-artwork07:08
Bader_jason: you mean .icons, thanks :)07:08
zAo^trappist, hmm.. thnx. Try something here first :)07:08
trappistzAo^: maybe apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-artwork07:08
_jasonBader, yep07:08
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gnomefreakC-O-L-T, i will attempt to write a fast lil script to cd to the places and this way you just run the script name07:08
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C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: ok\07:09
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: thanks again07:09
zAo^trappist, I'll try that, thnx07:09
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bipolaris there a way to stop ssh from encrypting the ip/hostname in the known_hosts file?07:09
gnomefreakC-O-L-T, it will more than likey be tomorrow07:09
C-O-L-Tgnomefreak: no problem07:09
trappistbipolar: it's not encrypted07:09
Teskupoi got a problem with the azureus and the path :(07:09
trappistbipolar: those are host keys07:09
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jawshoewahwhat is the command to see what video card is?07:10
Teskupohave any the azureus installed?07:10
jawshoewahwhat my video card is?07:10
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bipolartrappist: no, I mean the IP/Hostname. it's all encripted. It started doing this in dapper.07:10
DreamgliderTeskupo, i do07:10
soundraybipolar, I know what you mean, I see this in breezy, too.07:10
cello_raspTeskupo: all the cool kis use mutorrent on wine07:10
trappistbipolar: check /etc/ssh/ssh_config or ~/.ssh/config and look for HashKnownHosts07:10
jawshoewahis it xorg.conf?07:11
Teskupoand how you do it Dreamglider ?07:11
soundrayahuman01, cool, trappist, thanks.07:11
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bipolartrappist: thanks. I'll look into it07:11
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eccfwhat package is the cmd 'import' packaged in?07:11
DreamgliderTeskupo, i installed it using automatrix07:11
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trappisteccf: imagemagick I believe07:12
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TeskupoAnd what is taht Dreamglider , i new in ubuntu :$ sorry07:12
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jawshoewahdoes anyone know the terminal command to have your video hardware listed?07:12
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eccftrappist, ok. let me try.07:12
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trappisteccf: confirmed.  imagemagick.07:12
Gn0m3spanish?07:12
trappistjawshoewah: lspci07:12
jawshoewahtyty07:13
trappistGn0m3: #ubuntu-es07:13
Gn0m3thnx07:13
eccftrappist, cool. installing now.07:13
tech9inerarg.. ive installed several distros on these old Pll 366 toughbooks.. ubuntu 1st one that doesnt like my yamaha YMF-744B mobo sound arch.. ;[[.. 'aplay -l' gets me 'aplay: device_list:200: no soundcards found...' ;[...07:13
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eccfhmm. is there a way to get rid of the ubuntu logo at gnome taskbar? i like footprint better :)07:13
tech9ineryet the yamaha modules are loaded.. scratching bloody spot on 4head here..07:13
trappisttech9iner: ymfpci?07:13
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trappisttech9iner: snd-ymfpci?07:14
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wicht1wi mach ich verknpfungen auf den desktop?07:15
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tech9ineraye trappist .. thanks mate.. may i pm ya the 7-10 lines of lsmod snd refs mate?07:15
wicht1z.B von dem firefox07:15
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tech9ineror pastebin.. ur call trappist07:15
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eccftrappist, you have any idea how to get rid of ubuntu logo at gnome taskbar? like change it to the original footprint logo instead, or did you use other WM?07:16
tech9iner!themes07:16
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trappisttech9iner: pastebin is preferred07:16
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trappisteccf: I don't use gnome07:17
tech9ineraye trappist .. brb w url mate thanks07:17
eccftrappist, ok.07:17
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trappisteccf: when you have a new question, you'll generally have better luck addressing the channel.  if someone who knows sees a line starting with 'trappist' he may not read the rest.07:18
tech9inertrappist: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=499577.. ur time appreciated muchly guv ;] ] 07:18
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topylieccf: i don't know how to change it really, but it's not any business of the window manager (in gnome that is)07:19
tech9inermy bad trappist http://pastebin.com/499577 even ;[07:19
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trappisttech9iner: much better, thanks :)07:19
tech9inergrabbed wrong url mate07:19
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eccfok. it seems that i might go for other alternative beside gnome. this laptop has a low 900mhz CPU and 256MB of RAM. i might try openbox or xfce.07:20
tech9inertwould seem here alls in place for sound.. yet u just doesnt like current configs?07:20
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tech9inerxfce is nice where lean is needed eccf07:20
eccfbut honestly, gnome is very user-friendly by the default installation.07:21
trappisttech9iner: looks pretty good to me.  I've never seen your soundcard, I was just making sure you knew which modules to look for.  do other sound apps work?07:21
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eccftech9iner, yeah. i might try that. i saw an article on ubuntuforums that teach step by step to change over to xfce :)07:21
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osfameronany hints on setting up a umts card?07:22
osfameronrunning the provider script, it stops on the "ATZ" command07:22
osfameronalso, I don't appear to have a ppp0 device07:22
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osfameronI'm lost in treacle and without much clue - pointers?07:22
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bluefoxicydude07:22
TeskupoDreamglider, are you still there?07:23
bluefoxicyI just installed ubuntu and upgraded to dapper in qemu07:23
tech9inertrappist: well sys notifications like beeps here on irc messgs inbound.. and error beeps n such.. havent tried any mp3's n such or music playback yet..07:23
bluefoxicylogged into gnome after a reboot07:23
jawshoewahlspci lists SiS as video controller but not specs it's an on-board video unit and im trying to figure out it's specs07:23
bluefoxicyit uses 90 megs of ram, including gnome-terminal07:23
bluefoxicyto get to the desktop07:23
juan32for a windows partition i need fat32 no?07:23
Teskupontfs too no?07:23
tech9inerkind of assumed if im getting upon bootup/login 'sound server informational message: error while initializing the sound driver: device: default cant be opened for playback (on such device) the sound server will continue suing the null output device.. '''.. trying mp3's was wasted effort no?07:24
juan32teskupo whats is better?07:24
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mwetech9iner: yeah07:24
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mwetech9iner: fix the error first07:24
mwe!tell tech9iner about sound07:24
juan32Teskupo, whats is better ntfs or fat32?07:24
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jawshoewahwhats strange about having a dual boot is linux "sees" the winblows partition but windoze wont recognize unix07:24
mwetech9iner: read /msg from ubotu07:24
studenthas anyone used dansguardian before?07:24
tech9inerbtw trappist .. #kubuntu guru did mention some bit bout proper user perms assignments for audio had been a problem..07:24
osfameron!umts07:25
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, osfameron07:25
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jawshoewahany terminal commands more informative than lspci?07:25
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_jasonjawshoewah, lshw07:25
gnomefreaklspci is the command07:25
tech9ineragain.. thanks chap mwe ;] ] 07:25
Teskupojuan32 do you know spanish?07:25
juan32si07:25
Teskupovale toma este link jje07:25
trappisttech9iner: check out the permissions on /dev/dsp07:25
Teskupohttp://www.configurarequipos.com/tema774-7-0.html07:25
tech9inerk trappist .. thanks..07:25
_jasonjawshoewah, sudo lshw -C display, if you want display info07:25
Teskupoque yo me explico muy mal juan32 , si no te keda claro dime07:26
slewi have a windows partition on this drive, and it shows up in ubuntu as an icon on the desktop. im not able to see the contents of this partition, how do i remove the icon?07:26
juan32ok vale Teskupo07:26
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trappistslew: you'd rather remove the icon, or fix permissions on the drive?07:26
DreamgliderTeskupo, i'm still here07:26
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graftslew, is the drive automounted?07:27
Teskupocan you read the private Dreamglider ?07:27
Teskupoespero que te sirva juan3207:27
slewtrappist, id rather just not have the icon at all07:27
DreamgliderTeskupo, i msg'd you but no reply07:27
trappistjuan32, Teskupo: #ubuntu-es por favor07:27
eccfwhen i tried to sudo apt-get install ssh, it said please insert disc. isn't it force to d/l the latest version w/ patches or whatever from the repo?07:28
slewits in /etc/fstab as default, i changed it to noauto and its still there07:28
Teskupoi reply you....07:28
mcphaileccf: remove the disk from your sources list07:28
trappisteccf: get rid of the cdrom line in your /etc/apt/sources.list07:28
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graftslew, is it still mounted?07:29
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eccfah. that explains. thanks guy :)07:29
Teskupoi reply you....again... i have to do something to could reply?? :S Dreamglider07:29
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slewgraft, i suppose. i look at it and it tells me i have no permissions to view it07:29
tech9inertrappist: okaaaaay.... weird.. there IS NO '/dev/dsp' according to konqeuror.. hmmmmmm??07:29
gorskihello, i have problems playbacking recorded sound!07:29
_jasonTeskupo, you have to be registered to send /msg07:29
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tech9inercould be relative eh mates?.. rofl07:29
Dreamglideranyone, why cant i see Teskupo reply in private ?07:29
graftslew, does it show up when you type "mount"? i mean if you haven't rebooted since you changed 'default' to 'noauto', it'll probably still be mounted07:29
_jasonDreamglider, he's not registered07:30
Teskupoo i see _jason... and where i can do that??07:30
trappisttech9iner: well that explains a little.  it should appear when the correct driver gets loaded.  do you see your sound card in the output of lspci?07:30
_jasonubotu, tell Teskupo about register07:30
Dreamgliderallroght07:30
gorskihello, i have problems playbacking recorded sound!07:30
slewgraft, naw i changed fstab last night and shut it down. its still here this morning07:30
tech9inernow only way i could be missing /dev/dsp is via the aptget upgrade of unbuntu 5.0.5 to kubuntu maybe?..07:30
tech9inerarg.. 5.0.5/.4 dammit07:30
graftwell, what does "mount" say?07:30
DreamgliderTeskupo, you need to register your nick in order to talk in private mate07:31
trappisttech9iner: no, /dev/dsp is a device.  not provided by a package.07:31
Teskupoo i see07:31
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Teskupoi will do it07:31
slewgraft, dosent mention the ntfs drive07:31
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grafthrmrmrmrm07:31
graftyou're running gnome?07:31
slewyeah07:31
computerdudeWhen I use apt-get where does it save the files too?07:31
graftmaybe it shows icons for all mount points by default... dunno much about gnome, unfortunately07:31
slewi think i'll just take the line out of fstab.07:32
graftyeah just comment it out07:32
jawshoewahim trying to figure out if my on board video is hardware accelerated and what it's memory rating is07:32
jawshoewahhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/690607:32
slewk that seemed to do it. =] 07:32
jawshoewahcan someone help  me decipher?07:32
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Catch22-srvis there a c compiler in ubuntu which i can easily install ?07:33
gorskihello, i have problems playbacking recorded sound!07:33
Seveas!tell Catch22-srv about compiling07:34
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BxLwhere is the official ubuntu starter guide?07:34
_jasonBxL, help.ubuntu.com07:34
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BxLthanks _jason07:35
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omerWhat is the gcc version the kernel conpile with? (5.10)07:35
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tech9inerso trappist .. how doth one check perms on /dev/dsp if not seen by konqueror please?07:35
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Seveasomer, 3.407:35
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omerthank07:35
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trappisttech9iner: if it doesn't exist it has no perms.  step 1: make it exist.07:35
jawshoewahhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/690607:36
jawshoewahcan someone help  me decipher?07:36
jawshoewahim trying to figure out if my on board video is hardware accelerated and what it's memory rating is07:36
trappisttech9iner: or if it's a potential konqueror issue, ls -l /dev/dsp on the command line07:36
wolfcan ne bod tell what is DEBIAN07:36
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Seveas!tell wolf about debian07:36
juan23!tell juan23 about debian07:37
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gnomefreakits a 128mb video care jawshoewah07:38
graftjawshoewah: post lspci -v instead of lshw, please07:38
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gnomefreakim not sure what maker it is though :(07:39
gnomefreakother than sis07:39
gnomefreak!sis07:39
ubotugnomefreak: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about07:39
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soundrayDo you know of anyone who has deb-packaged Gnash?07:41
kkathmangood day - just did an adept update, rebooted and have no connectivity to my network (system is up and running).. dhclient eth0 shows no discovery, no leases - sleeping07:41
kkathmancould someone offer some ideas on how to possibly rectify this>07:41
kkathmanbtw pinging my gateway gives Network is unreachable07:42
graftkkathman: does eth0 get recognized by your kernel?07:42
trappistkkathman: if you ifconfig eth0 does it show an ip address?07:42
jawshoewahi ran glxinfo it gave me a warning 3d driver returned no fbconfigs07:42
kkathmangraft I did a lspci and the ethernet does show07:42
kkathmangraft:  is there something else you had in mind?07:42
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jawshoewahis fbconfigs a module i need?07:43
graftyeah... that just means it's on the PCI bus... doesn't mean the appropriate kernel module finds it07:43
tech9inerk trappist .. sorry.. ups at door ;] .. anyhoo.. running ls -l /dev/dsp now07:43
kkathmansudo /etc/init.d/ifupdown   and inetd  restart all work properly07:43
graftwhat's ifconfig -a tell you?07:44
grafterr... what do you mean "all work properly"?07:44
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tech9inerls: /dev/dsp: No such file or directory07:44
kkathmangraft - eth0 shows a haw addr, but no IP07:44
tech9inerhmmm.. strange days trappist ...07:44
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kkathmanthere is a sit0 there now that wasnt there before07:45
tech9inernever even installed any distro b4 that removed the standard dev/dsp .. wierd no doubt ;] 07:45
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kkathmangraft:   what I mean by that those processes were ok...was that they return [ok] 07:46
trappisttech9iner: there's no standard /dev/dsp being removed - it doesn't exist until the proper drivers are loaded for an existing sound card07:46
mwetech9iner: missing /dev/dsp probably means the sound driver is not loaded07:46
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kkathmangraft:  I now have 3 entries there:  eth0, lo, and sit0  (dont remember the sit0 before)07:46
trappisttech9iner: modprobe -r your sound card drivers, re-modprobe them, and check dmesg for any errors07:46
graftkkathman: is the eth0 address the same as the one for your card in lspci?07:46
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kkathmangraft there is no eth0 IP address07:47
kkathmangraft you mean the HWaddr ??07:47
graftyeah, the HWaddr07:47
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kkathmangraft lspci doesnt show me any HW address that I can see07:48
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tech9inerk trappist .. modprobe cli'z now..07:48
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grafterr... yeah that's right, sorry...07:49
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kkathmangraft well I say that...the Ethernet line is preceded by 0000:00:12.007:49
tech9inerassuming here trappist mwe that syntax = 'modprobe -r snd-ympci' the 'modprobe snd-ympci'.. ?.. aye please?.. [quite buggered n gui dependent foo here mates ;] ] here ;] ] 07:49
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tech9inerthe/then07:49
jawshoewahfbconfigs???07:49
trappisttech9iner: yes07:50
tech9inertanx chum07:50
bsn_uahello everybody)07:50
trappisttech9iner: preceded by 'sudo' so it will run as root07:50
davixhttp://www.pwned.nl/ayb/07:50
kkathmangraft I tried the sudo network-admin... it shows that the eth0 is active, and I was able to deactivate and reactivate07:50
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bsn_uai have a little question07:50
graftkkathman: yeah, that's just the bus line... you're right, lspci doesn't tell you the mac address.. my memory was bad07:50
tech9ineraye.. actually had that in mind 2 my rare credit lol07:50
mwekkathman: did you try sudo dhclient eth0?07:50
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kkathmanmwe  yes... the result is that there is no DHCPDISCOVERY... and no leases - all sleeping07:51
yggdrasil_Awesome guys07:51
yggdrasil_ive got linux installed07:51
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yggdrasil_what do i do now07:51
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naliothyggdrasil_: enjoy the internet with no thought of viruses or trojans07:51
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graftkkathman: does it do DHCPREQUESTs?07:52
trappisttech9iner: bbiaf, lunch07:52
grafti mean wtf is it doing?07:52
tech9inertanx trappist 4 headsup guv.. enjoy ye meal mate07:53
yggdrasil_is that it ?!!07:53
graftyggdrasil_: play galaga07:53
yggdrasil_oooh now your talking07:53
bsn_uawhere can i find package pkg-config?07:53
yggdrasil_actualy that xsabre thing is pretty cool07:53
graftalso get snes9x!07:53
tech9inerPCI: Enabling device 0000:00:09.0 (0000 -> 0003)    ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:09.0[A]  -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11    codec_ready: codec 0 is not ready [0x801a]     Yamaha DS-XG PCI: probe of 0000:00:09.0 failed with error -507:53
kkathmangraft  it reports first that sit0 - unknown hardware address type 776 (twice)  then does only DHCPDISCOVERs on eth0  no DHCPOFFERS received No working leases in persistent database - sleeping07:53
mwekkathman: I don't know. can you ping the router?07:54
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yggdrasil_will this linux help me impress the womens ?07:54
tech9inerhmmm.. dmesg snd ref bit interesting..07:54
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kkathmanmwe no - it says Network is unreachable07:54
graftergh... kkathman, did you build your own kernel?07:54
mwekkathman: are the cables plugged in? :)07:54
kkathmangraft no --- all I did was install the updates to breezy for today07:54
kkathmanthats it07:54
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kkathmanthen rebooted07:55
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mwekkathman: breezy?07:55
kkathmanmwe yes breezy07:55
decafanyone has a via km266? or tries to use usb mouse with via8233 south chip?07:55
mweoh yeah you said so07:55
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tech9ineryggdrasil_ of course it helps w womens!! ;] ] ... please review http://www.nata2.info/humor/flash/switchlinux3.swf rofl07:55
graftyggdrasil_ - if you hang around MIT, maybe07:55
mwekkathman: what updates did it install?07:56
mwekkathman: new kernel or what?07:56
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graftmust have done something07:56
graftthat sit0 thing, btw, is some ipv6-related thing07:56
graftyou almost definitely don't want it07:56
tech9inergeorgeous femme bots an all yggdrasil_ rofl07:56
yggdrasil_hahha07:57
kkathmangraft I imagine I dont07:57
yggdrasil_yall are a group of good guys07:57
graftyggdrasil_, who says we're all guys?07:57
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Pygiseveas: ping07:57
kkathmanaha07:57
yggdrasil_a thousand pardons miss07:57
graftwell, i'm a guy, i'm just saying..07:57
SeveasPygi, ICMP ECHO REPLY07:58
Pygiseveas: that whitespace thingy is erghhhh...07:58
yggdrasil_ohaha07:58
kkathmangraft well I went to network-admin  and set it to static - and that works fine07:58
yggdrasil_ok now im confused07:58
graftguhuh?07:58
SeveasPygi, :D07:58
graftokay that's fucking wierd07:58
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gorskihow to restart apache2?07:59
graftkkathman: what modules have oyu got loaded?07:59
mwegorski: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart07:59
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kkathmangraft:  well quite a few Im sure08:00
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gorskicommand not found?08:00
mwewhat's a teql interface?08:00
mimiuy08:00
mweifconfig -a shows teql108:00
Pygiseveas: and this .... Brainfuck .... huh, I shall not even comment08:00
graftkkathman: you oughta find whatever module inserts sit0 and kill it08:00
kkathmangraft:  interesting that network-admin was able to setup that eth0 for static08:00
graftyeah, that is interesting, and annoying08:00
SeveasPygi, it's all just turing machines :)08:00
kkathmangraft would that be in the /etc/network/interfaces?08:01
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tech9iner> codec_ready: codec 0 is not ready [0x801a]      Yamaha DS-XG PCI: probe of 0000:00:09.0 failed with error -508:01
tech9inerk.. ran modprobe -r snd-ymfpci and then reloaded module.. then dmesg's last lines include08:01
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tech9inerabove that is08:01
EdgeLnxHi guys08:01
gorskiplease?08:01
graftno no08:01
kkathmangraft  nope it isnt in that file08:01
tech9iner /me is still gettn used to new chat client ;] 08:01
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EdgeLnxDoes anyone know how I could update my Firefox under Ubuntu 5.10? plz08:01
graftkkathman you have to get it out of the kernel08:01
jordi_hello, during kubuntu install on an amd64 i got the errormsg "the ext2 filesystem has a rather strange layout", i searched the forum but really found nothing to solve this problem08:02
tech9iner!ftp08:02
ubotuGood FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP server: proftpd08:02
mwe!tell EdgeLnx about ff1.508:02
gorskihow to restart apache2?08:02
tech9iner!ftp-install08:02
mwegorski: I told you08:02
graftand make sure you're not aliasing eth0 in /etc/modules.conf and such08:02
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, tech9iner08:02
mwegorski: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart08:02
EdgeLnxThanx mwe08:02
kkathmangraft let me check rc3d08:02
kkathmanerrr.. sorry rc2d08:02
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tech9iner!ftp install08:02
ubotutech9iner: Are you smoking crack?08:02
gorskiok, sorry08:03
gorskitnx08:03
graftcheck for eth0 in /etc/modules.conf08:03
tech9inerk.. so mates.. is there ftp installs available for kubuntu please?08:03
insomndhow can i find the hostname of an IP address?08:03
gnomefreakubotu tell tech9iner about install08:03
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tech9inertanx gnomefreak ;] ] 08:03
gnomefreakyw08:03
Pygifreaky: Have you wrote it?08:03
mwemodules.conf? I don't have that file on my machine08:03
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gnomefreakInsidious, whois <ip address>08:03
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gnomefreakPygi, yes and i think i oh damn08:04
gaertnerjemand von den foren admins da ? user nalfein kann nicht posten ...08:04
gnomefreaksorry i forgot to send it :(08:04
kkathmangraft modules   or modules.conf?08:04
cantspeakslowlyHi, I'm looking to set up a network of computers running ubuntu that share a common set of user accounts (university computer lab style.) I don't want thin clients -- the individual computers can handle the OS, but I do need a users desktop environment and home directory to be consistent regardless of which computer they log in to. Can anybody give me some help on where to start looking for this  kind of information?08:04
Pygifreaky: ah, can you send now?08:04
Pygicant: Use NIS08:04
gorskihow to correctly configure MySQL server's socket?08:04
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yosefCan someone help me understand where mt cd drives are? how are cd drives mounted in linux?08:04
Pygicant: or NIS+08:04
kkathmangraft  there is not a modules.conf in /etc/08:05
graftkkathman: err first do lsmod and see if you have an ipv6 module loading08:05
soundrayinsomnd, man host, man dig08:05
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kkathmangraft yes I do08:05
gnomefreakim sending it now08:05
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Pygifreaky: kk08:05
gnomefreakwati error08:05
kkathmanipv6 is in the lsmod list08:05
graftkkathman: rmmod that shit08:06
mwecantspeakslowly: you _need_ a common server for that. /home should be on a shared drive08:06
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KeiserAnybody here have any experience with Breezy on the Sparc platform?08:06
knewti'm trying to install breezy, but base-config is failing during the first boot with this error in the log: libesd-alsa0: Conflicts: libesd0 but 0.2.36-1ubuntu5 is to be installed08:06
kkathmangraft  just rmmod ipv6 ??08:06
knewtany ideas?08:06
graftyeh08:06
graftthen do sudo dhclient eth008:06
jordi_hello, during (k)ubuntu install on an amd64 system, i tried reiserfs and ext3 filesystems, i got the errormsg "the ext2 filesystem has a rather strange layout", i searched the forum but really found nothing to solve this problem08:06
gorskihow to configure MySQL server's socket?08:06
kkathmanaha... graft - says its in use :)08:06
Blippeis there any difference between the server install on kubuntu and ubuntu?08:06
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graftgoo! mother of pearl08:07
Pygiblippe: no08:07
mwegorski: configure it's socket?08:07
soundrayjordi_, is this error associated with a failure, or is it just a warning?08:07
gnomefreakPygi, its still erroring might have to wait08:07
Blippethanks Pygi08:07
mwegorski: what exactly are you trying to do?08:07
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goograft: uh, sorry?08:07
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Pygifreaky: huh, what kind of error?08:07
jordi_a warning, but when it can't copy files08:07
grafthehe... err, sorry, goo08:07
gnomefreak4.3.0 mail server rejected it08:07
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grafti was just cursing08:07
jordi_a failure is coming08:07
wicht1kann ich mit gnome eigentlich auch transparenz machen?08:08
graftkkathman: well, you have to get that ipv6 out of there somehow08:08
soundray!de08:08
mwe!de08:08
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de08:08
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wicht1also bei fenstern08:08
graftyou say you don't have an /etc/modules.conf?08:08
omerHello08:08
graftwhat about an /etc/modules?08:08
gorskiconfiguring mythtv, i am in firefox now on localhost phpmyadmin08:08
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kkathmangraft I didnt have an /etc/modules.conf either08:08
grafterr... well try /etc/modprobe.d/aliases08:08
soundrayjordi_, I'm not sure I understand. What is the problem you're trying to solve right now?08:08
Zerlinna#fedora08:08
Zerlinnaups08:08
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gorskihow to configure mysql socket?08:09
elvinHey08:09
omerI have header files just for 2.6.12-9-386 when my kernel is 2.6.12-10-386. How I fix it?08:09
mwegorski: configure it's socket?08:09
mwegorski: what exactly are you trying to do?08:09
jordi_soundray my problem is that i cant install on my partition and this above is the only errormsg08:09
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mwegorski: IIRC I already asked that08:09
gorskiyes, but how?08:09
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cantspeakslowlymwe: I assume I'll need one server for data storage, but all the stuff I'm finding on thin clients has the server doing all the processing, which seems pointless if the clients  have enough power... any ideas on howtos or similar for getting my head around the problem?08:10
gorskicommand, please!08:10
mwegorski: please tell me what exactly your trying to do08:10
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gorskii want to set the password for mysql08:10
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elvinIve just started linux for the first time and Im looking for a website with lots of applications for linux to install08:10
soundrayjordi_, did you format the partition as part of the install?08:10
mwecantspeakslowly: just mount /home as a nfs share on the machines08:10
IAmAIHello.08:10
knewtgrr. this is annoying08:10
_jasonubotu, tell elvin about synaptic08:11
cantspeakslowlyPygi: any particuarly good resources for getting started with NIS/NIS+ ?08:11
mwecantspeakslowly: at least that's my advice08:11
Pygicant: yes, just a sec pls, ok?08:11
cantspeakslowlymwe: how about login info (/etc/passwd) that should be shared ?08:11
mwegorski: yes08:11
elvinthanks08:11
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jordi_soundray i tried both. once i format it myself with fdisk on gentoo, and i tried to let kubuntu format it08:11
mwegorski: you don't need to confuse socket issues into that08:11
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IAmAICould anyone help me install ndiswrapper?08:11
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graftkkathman: what kernel do you have installed anyway?08:12
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gorskii have problem: #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)08:12
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graftseems really weird that this module would be loading...08:12
ITSa341elvin  look here also http://directory.fsf.org/08:12
mwecantspeakslowly: I don't remember how to do that properly08:12
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Pygicant: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/NIS-HOWTO/index.html08:13
gk1980Hey, does anyone here have experience with FreeNX on ubuntu?08:13
kitty_can somebody help me...i have absolutly no Audio playback.. i think ive got all the codecs i need but no sound comes from the speakers, ive tried all my audio ports so it must be a software problem.08:13
ompaul?ama? whatever you have around your name I can't read08:13
_jasonubotu, tell elvin about repos08:13
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jordi_soundray any idea?08:13
mwecantspeakslowly: you're obviously need to centralize the login somehow08:13
soundrayjordi_, not sure...08:13
toggleswitchelvin: see the ubuntu help  icon on your top bar. Go for the ubuntu starter guide. Lots of stuff there.08:13
Pygimwe: well NIS is used for that....08:13
_jasongk1980, probably a lot of people, do you have a particular question?08:13
soundrayjordi_, at what stage do you get the error?08:13
Pygicantspeakslowly:08:14
Pygihttp://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/NIS-HOWTO/index.html08:14
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jordi_soundray at the beginning, "formating the partition"08:14
ompaulIAmAI, ahh it was the letter I heh the ndiswrapper page is very specific about what to do to get it working08:14
Storkmehmm, i can't get any sound on my pc08:14
kitty_can somebody help me...i have absolutly no Audio playback.. i think ive got all the codecs i need but no sound comes from the speakers, ive tried all my audio ports so it must be a software problem.08:14
cantspeakslowlythx Pygi, mwe08:14
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CarinArrStorkme, ouch.. heh.. did it use to work but doesn't anymore?;)08:14
IAmAIompaul: This one? http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation08:14
ompaulIAmAI, no08:15
Pygicantspeakslowly: yw08:15
StorkmeCarinArr, i think it works in the game, let me test08:15
ompaul!tell IAmAI about ndiswrapper08:15
gk1980_jason, I use freeNX client from a WindowsXP box to a xubuntu box running latest FreeNX server. Is there anyway to control the size of the actual desktop size? Changing the size of the screen in the client (even to full-screen) doesn't seem to help and I'm stuck with a small desktop with lots of black area surrounding it.08:15
ompaulIAmAI, I got the bot to send you a msg it is the "ubuntu" way08:15
soundrayjordi_, it doesn't really make sense to me. Sorry.08:15
IAmAIompaul: Thanks. I'll have a look at that.08:15
ompaulIAmAI, they should be the same but I know the ubuntu page works for lots of people08:16
jordi_ok thanks08:16
knewtno-one has any ideas to help me?08:16
bsn_uawhere can i find gtk-config for download????08:16
soundrayjordi_, small hint: ompaul may be your man...08:16
StorkmeCarinArr, nothing has sound - XMMS tells me to check that "MY soundcard is configured properly, there are no audio devices blocking the output", etc08:16
yggdrasil_i think my linux got microsft in it08:16
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ompaulsoundray, whaaaaa08:16
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kitty_ can somebody help me...i have absolutly no Audio playback.. i think ive got all the codecs i need but no sound comes from the speakers, ive tried all my audio ports so it must be a software problem.08:16
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g3ffhi08:16
ompaulsoundray, I see - okay08:16
CarinArrStorkme, what soundcard do you have?08:16
thegladiator85 seconds is my boot time , whats yours ?08:16
soundraySorry ompaul, I know you're busy already.08:17
thegladiatorisnt 85 seconds too long for an OS ?08:17
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bsn_uawhere can i find gtk-config for download????08:17
StorkmeCarinArr, a97 realtek audoi built into my mobo08:17
StorkmeCarinArr, but it worked fine a few minutes ago08:17
Pygiseveas: tried that flashy thingy?08:17
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ompaulsoundray, s/he quit08:17
CarinArrack.. what have you changed in the last few minutes?08:17
gnomefreakPygi, i sent it i have to go for now ill be back though08:17
_jasongk1980, I haven't had that problem so i am just guessing here, but can you change the resolution on the ubuntu box?08:17
SeveasPygi, gnash you mean?08:18
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Pygiseveas: yes08:18
Pygifreaky: k, thanks08:18
thegladiatorwhats the boot time you guys get ?08:18
kitty_ please can somebody help me...i have absolutly no Audio playback.. i think ive got all the codecs i need but no sound comes from the speakers, ive tried all my audio ports so it must be a software problem.08:18
SeveasPygi, not yet, I'm working at 10 (yes, 10) things simultaneously now08:18
CarinArrStorkme, just to rule it out.. can you start alsamixer and make sure you haven't managed to mute it somehow?08:18
PygiSeveas: well, as I said, me too :)08:18
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kkathmangraft  one answer here is to do an rmmod --force ipv6   but I really hate doing forces :)08:18
soundrayompaul, too bad for h{im|er}08:18
CarinArri've muted mine before unknowingly.. (still haven't managed to figure out what i do to mute it)08:18
StorkmeCarinArr, it's not muted :)08:18
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PygiSeveas: k, just go work then.... I have to as well :P08:18
ompaulsoundray, :)08:18
gk1980_jason, I can, however its a laptop and I do want to use it without FreeNX. Changing the resolution back and forth doesn't seem to way to go. Anyhow, using X over XDMCP works fine. Full screen and all.08:18
ompaulthegladiator, what do you mean?08:19
thegladiatorompaul, boot time , the time taken to boot into ubuntu08:19
CarinArrStorkme, and you haven't changed anything knowingly since the sound was last working?08:19
kitty_please can somebody help me...i have absolutly no Audio playback.. i think ive got all the codecs i need but no sound comes from the speakers, ive tried all my audio ports so it must be a software problem.08:19
thegladiatormine is 85 seconds , wondering if its a good speed08:19
globeHow do I set the active partition on my hard drive manually?08:19
CarinArrack.. bbias08:20
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Blippe15-20 seconds thegladiator08:20
thegladiatorreally BLIPE ?08:20
soundraythegladiator, that is a reasonable time.08:20
ompaulthegladiator, that depends on hardware, if a partition needs to be fscked, so I just let it happen and grab a glass of water between when I turn it on an sit down08:20
thegladiatorBlippe, you have an amazing speed then08:20
Blippeit's tweaked...08:21
soundrayBlippe, that's with a bit of fine-tuning isn't it.08:21
soundrayBlippe, LinuxBIOS?08:21
thegladiatorhmm...like whats the tweak  ? diabiling few many things ?08:21
StorkmeCarinArr, nope :\08:22
thegladiatori'd love to get it down to 30-40 seconds . I have an AMD Sempron 2400 , but 256 RAM only . Will 512 RAM make any considerable difference ?08:22
StorkmeCarinArr, is it just a random problem that i could solve with ctrl+alt+backspace?08:22
ITSa341I have a p4 running at 4.5ghz and can't boot in 20 seconds with a GB ram.08:22
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soundraythegladiator, not on boot.08:22
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StorkmeITSa341, intels suck ;)08:22
thegladiatoraaah. so it sems mine is a bit slow08:23
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BlippeI don't know, I didn't do it...08:23
federicahi08:23
ompaulI used to have a 486 33dx boot FreeBSD in 40 seconds and at 1:05 the X login screen was there - now that was hacked08:23
soundraythegladiator, do you measure from power up or from grub loading the kernel?08:23
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thegladiatorpower up . after the grub is loaded08:23
Blippeactually i wouldn't call it tweaked, i would call it not working08:23
thegladiatorwhen the ubuntu splash comes08:23
thegladiatoris there any tweak guides available ?08:24
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soundrayAll this booting cr*p would be unnecessary if there was a decent static RAM technology.08:24
thegladiatorsoundray, :)08:24
thegladiatorsoundray, whats your time ?08:24
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s_spiff{asleep}good night people08:25
s_spiff{asleep}hey thegladiator08:25
thegladiatoreevn mobile OS takes around 5 seconds to load08:25
ITSa341Storkme   I agree my Athlon 3000+ outperforms my P4 3.0 overclocked to 4.5ghz at -40f. The athlon is stock speeds.08:25
soundraythegladiator, uptime: 40 days... can't remember :)08:25
s_spiff{asleep}what mobile os?08:25
thegladiators_spiff{asleep}, hey :) sleep well :)08:25
s_spiff{asleep}hehe08:25
s_spiff{asleep}not sleeping re..08:25
thegladiatormobile OS ...yaar , in the normal mobiles we have OS08:25
soundraythegladiator, my laptop takes about 2 minutes, though.08:25
globethegladiator, you have to remember that everything that you disable in order to boot faster makes you loose a feature....windows achives a good boot time by doing as little as possible before setting up the GUI08:25
s_spiff{asleep}have to install azuerus08:25
pirxis it only for me that it doesnt work to jump between words in the adress bar in firefox with ctrl-arrow?08:25
s_spiff{asleep}and the download some 'stuff'08:26
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thegladiatorhe he :)08:26
thegladiatorgood08:26
gk1980Does anyone know when there will be an official FireFox 1.5 package for ubuntu?08:26
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elvinHey again, are there a way to see NTFS files in ubuntu?08:26
soundraygk1980, when dapper is out.08:26
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thegladiatorok , so is there somewhere I can remove unwanted things during boot ?08:26
soundray!firefox1.508:26
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion08:26
thegladiatorelvin, yes08:26
ITSa341bbiab08:26
thegladiator!ntfs08:26
ubotu[ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK08:26
s_spiff{asleep}gk1980, i think i read somewhere there isn't gonna be any package for FF now on08:26
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s_spiff{asleep}but you should read abt it on wiki08:26
thegladiatorelvin, read what ubotu says ^08:26
elvinthanks08:27
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gk1980ok, thanks...08:27
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s_spiff{asleep}np08:27
brian_can someone please help me with dual monitors?08:27
brian_ive bene trying for a while now and i cant find ANY help08:27
thegladiatorso is there something in GUI that can help me configure this bootin ? lik I can remove unwanted things08:27
brian_all the docs are outdated, irrelevant, or just plain wrong08:27
thegladiators_spiff{asleep}, what time you sleep ?08:27
s_spiff{asleep}brian_, i think there is a thread on the forums abt it08:27
s_spiff{asleep}check it out08:27
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brian_got a link? because i was searching the forums last nite and found nothing helpful08:28
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s_spiff{asleep}no specific time man...now exams commin up..so will sleep later08:28
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thegladiators_spiff{asleep}, ah which class ?:) or semester ?08:28
brian_i dont need an xorg.conf i need someone that can actually explain to me how this stuff works08:28
Blippebrian_ look for xinerama and X.org !!!08:28
s_spiff{asleep}brian_, nopes, sorry, i didn't do any reading on it08:28
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s_spiff{asleep}semester 4..08:28
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newdleErr.08:28
s_spiff{asleep}engg.08:28
s_spiff{asleep}B.Tech actually08:28
brian_Blippe: i have been....for days08:28
thegladiatorkool! comp sci ?08:28
newdleim logged into root and i just typed make, it says command not found.08:28
thegladiatorme too b.tech08:28
s_spiff{asleep}no Chemistry08:28
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newdledoes ubuntu not come default with compiling stuff?08:29
thegladiatorelectronix kl...iit ?08:29
brian_im sitting here with two displays showing the same thing(the left display is missing a cursor), but i cant get anything else to work08:29
thegladiatoriit mum ?08:29
s_spiff{asleep}Dyes and Intermediates at UDCT08:29
andrewdhttp://www.socialstudiesforkids.com/articles/ushistory/13massachusetts.htm08:29
thegladiatorkl08:29
s_spiff{asleep}no man..UDCT08:29
brian_anyone know a channel where people would be knowledgeable about dual displays and Xinerama?08:29
s_spiff{asleep}iit sucks at chem..:P08:29
ompaulnewdle, no do this >>sudo apt-get install build-essential<< it will install all you want08:29
thegladiatorhehe :o sure08:29
s_spiff{asleep}what abt u thegladiator ?08:29
newdleawesome, thanks paul.08:29
ompaulnp08:29
thegladiatormyself did tronix engg from cochin univ of sci tech :p08:30
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s_spiff{asleep}neat08:30
s_spiff{asleep}and u're working now?08:30
ompauls_spiff{asleep}, please take the conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic this is supposed to be for help :)08:30
s_spiff{asleep}sorry ompaul .08:30
s_spiff{asleep}will do that.08:30
brian_http://www.brianwitha.be/xorg.conf can i PLEASE have some help08:30
thegladiatorhey yes sorry :)08:30
Blippebrian_ graphics-card?08:30
brian_6800 dual-head08:30
trappistbrian_: love the domain08:30
s_spiff{asleep}some other time thegladiator08:30
brian_thx08:31
thegladiatorompaul, so ...how can I remoe unwanted things from boot?08:31
s_spiff{asleep}have to finish this crap..and sleep!08:31
thegladiatorlater s_spiff{asleep}08:31
Blippe6800?08:31
s_spiff{asleep}cya08:31
thegladiatorciao08:31
brian_nvidia geforce08:31
newdleI think this is going to take me a while to get used to, the whole linux thing, but i think it will be easier to do what i want to do.08:31
newdlemmm, home automation.08:31
Blippeah08:31
tech9ineralas... not 2 be 'korn'fused with 'a l s a' .. downloading kubuntu iso and reinstalling.. hoping sound will be found upon complete ARG! reinstallation vs kubuntu upgraded unbuntu 5.0.4 ;[..08:31
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thegladiatornewdle, sure . once your get it done , you'll feel a lot better . thats how linux workds08:31
Blippehttp://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors08:31
brian_with that xorg.conf i have a cloned display(minus cursor on one) but i want to be able to have two seperate screens08:31
newdleyeah08:31
brian_Blippe: already been there08:31
ompaulthegladiator, start by installing bum and be careful what you do :-)08:31
brian_that info is old08:31
newdlejust gotta figure out why mysql is crapping out, phpgroupware is wierd to install.08:32
thegladiatoryes! bum ok08:32
Blippewell, it does work!08:32
brian_not for me..08:32
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thegladiatordont worry I have deleted command.com once in my very OLD DOS systems . so I am used to botching up real hard08:32
Blippewell, if you got it running, it is probably the serverlayout part that needs tweaking!08:32
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globethegladiator :-)08:33
ompaulthegladiator, make sure you have a live cd before you go breaking things08:33
ompauland an install one08:33
brian_how do i make it have two screens and not a cloned one08:33
thegladiatoryes I do . yep08:33
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brian_i have an xorg.conf where i get two distinct gnome desktops, but i cant mouse to the second screen, its like a second pc i cant touch almost08:33
brian_its really frustrating, why is it soooo hard to setup dual display under linux?08:34
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thegladiatorbrian_, hold your pateience , you will get help :)08:34
Blippepaste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file in the "channel"/"private message" i sent you!08:34
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brian_not seeing a pm08:34
ompaulBlippe, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org08:34
ompaulbrian_, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org08:34
brian_for what?08:34
brian_i already uploaded my xorg.conf08:35
ompaulahh08:35
Blippeompaul, i didn't tell him to paste it in the channel!08:35
brian_http://www.brianwitha.be/xorg.conf08:35
trappistbrian_: I have a dual display with separate instances of kde on each screen, but I set it up with ati's fglrxconfig which pretty much did it for me08:35
brian_im using nvidia see08:35
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trappistbrian_: I know nvidia recently released something similar08:35
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ompaulBlippe, I know he said did not see pm :)08:35
tech9inerbrian_: consider linux configs your sacrifice for giving up all those vundebar trojans n spy/malwares n hourly security patches on windBLOWz guv! wink wink08:35
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brian_yeah....ok, whatever08:36
trappistbrian_: if you install the latest driver package from nvidia.com, you'll have a 'nvidia-xconfig' which may simplify things for you08:36
brian_ok, awesome ill try that08:36
IAmAIompaul: Hey, I just found some Linux drivers for my card, when I went looking for Windows ones :P08:37
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brian_brevity is acceptable but your comment lacked substance08:37
ompaulIAmAI, enjoy08:37
trappisttech9iner: well, your comment pretty much amounted to "suck it up, whiner"08:37
IAmAIompaul: Hopes it's easier :P08:37
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brian_anyway im gonna go try these nvidia drivers and see what i can find, appreciate the help guys ill pry be back :x08:38
tech9inertrappist: wb chum.. my bad then.. even with the winks at da end eh..08:38
trappisttech9iner: sometimes not even a smiley can alter the substance of a comment ;)08:38
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Sionideanyone good with hard drives??08:38
Blippedammit, i just wiped out my xorg.conf instead...08:38
trappistSionide: I can spin them on my finger for an hour at a time08:39
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tech9ineragreed trappist .. point noted.. hence the mea culpas where deemed guv08:39
Sionidetrappist, :D cool08:39
soundrayIs there a proven strategy to track down signal 11 errors?08:39
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Blippesionide, yeah, they love me until i put them into peices08:39
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narlesanyone know if you can add and take off songs from an ipod using rhythmbox... or any program in general?08:39
trappistsoundray: I usually start with strace08:39
tech9inergiven up fwiw trappist on fixing sound.. bout 7 mins from kubuntu iso down.. fresh install seems apropos this juncture mate08:39
Sionidei just bought a new hard drive, formatted it as ext3, now i can't paste files to it in nautilus - but i can do touch foobar, then pico foobar and edit it without a problem - any ideas why nautilus can't write to it?08:39
trappisttech9iner: it's pretty much the same distro, but you might get lucky.  your sound card is definitely supposed to work.08:40
soundraytrappist, are signal 11s usually programming errors?08:40
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trappistsoundray: erm, if by programming errors you mean the programmer failed to foresee some obscure condition found on your machine, yes.  but I wouldn't call that a programming error.08:41
tech9inerby the by me new 'buntuMates'.. any CAD/CAM/3d drafters hang round here please?.. as in CAD apps on linux for custruction industry applications please?..08:41
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confliktcould someone help me when i try to start gAIM  i get this gaim: error while loading shared libraries: libdbus-glib-1.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory08:41
BlippeSionide, check owner on the dirs on the drive...08:42
xored!tell xored package08:42
soundraytrappist, so I should go and find a machine to run on that conforms better with the programmer's ideas?08:42
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Sionideah08:42
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trappistconflikt: try sudo apt-get install libdbus-glib-1-108:42
SionideBlippe, lost+found is owned by root :s08:42
Sionidecan i change that?08:42
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trappistsoundray: we don't know what the problem is yet.08:42
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Storkmehow on ubuntu can i see how much disk space i have left?08:42
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Storkmefrom the command line08:42
soundraytrappist, neither do I...08:42
trappistStorkme: df -h08:42
KnowerrorsIs there a setting to make x.org remember monitor settings?  If I turn on my compute with the monitor off, then turn it on later, Im greeted by only one resolution and refresh rate08:42
sTo0zDoes anyone know an ubuntu command to flush routes?08:42
confliktcant find the package08:43
xoredsorry guys, but where to get the current packages ? i want to update udev to a current version08:43
tech9ineror.. likewise.. any mates here stumbled cross any active CAD / drafting / architecture irc channels ?..08:43
narlesanyone know if you can add and take off songs from an ipod using rhythmbox... or any program in general?08:43
Storkmewierd08:43
Kremonte!tell narles about ipod08:43
Storkmecan anyone think of a reason that "scp" would give me "- stalled -" and stop?08:43
Blippebrian_ start with removing the leftof "Screen 1"08:43
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soundraytrappist, I'll talk to the developers of the prog I'm using. It's not really a Ubuntu support issue. Thanks for your hints.08:43
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sTo0zas far as i can tell you can't save the routes so i need to like flush them so i can repopulate with what i want?08:44
trappistconflikt: what version of ubuntu, and where'd you get gaim?08:44
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trappistStorkme: lost connectivity08:44
Storkmeoh, right08:45
Storkmethat's bad - router problems08:45
conflikttrappist: 2.0 in a .deb ubuntu 5.0408:45
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tech9inerthanks for the warm hands trappist n mwe ;] ] .. ciao 4 now chums..08:45
tech9inertanx all for 'bean' here mateyzzzz.. ;] ] 08:45
trappistconflikt: sounds like the .deb you got was for breezy (or at least would work on breezy)08:45
thefamousnomohello people, question re: usb drive mounting...08:46
Storkmethaks08:46
Storkmethanks*08:46
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iantechow do i update my firefox to 1.5?08:46
ProzacHow can i setup identd, with a user defined reply ?08:46
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trappist!tell iantec about firefox1508:46
paladinewok guys, I need to know how to make a SECURE/ENCRYPTED remote desktop connection from one ubuntu system to another08:46
mwe!tell iantec about ff1.508:46
trappistProzac: I think that's what pidentd is for08:46
robbsterlo all. I've just installed breezy on my old compaq presario 700. You guys have done a REALLY great job. Everything (so far) has 'just work'ed :) Thanks!08:46
trappistpaladinew: look into freenx08:46
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conflikttrappist: might have been but even when i get the one from the synaptic manager it still gives same error08:46
iantecthanks08:46
Prozacyeah ive installed pidentd but i cant figure out how i set the reply08:47
thegladiatoris it okay if I remove GDM ( using boot up manager)  when i am using #kubuntu-dektop package on ubuntu ?08:47
trappistconflikt: once you install a .deb it appears in synaptic.  it's probably the same package.08:47
thefamousnomoshould i cuddle up a bit before throeing out the questions...?08:47
robbster!tell robbster about ff1.508:47
trappistconflikt: uninstall, grab the .deb for hoary, and install that.08:47
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trappistthefamousnomo: nope08:47
soundraythegladiator, yes, but make sure you have a replacement (kdm probably).08:47
paladinewtrappist: know where I can find some good info on it ?08:47
thegladiatorthank you . yes it is there08:48
thefamousnomo@trappist: sound man08:48
trappistpaladinew: google knows all08:48
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thefamousnomohaving probs finding anything on this08:48
thefamousnomohave a 256mb flash drive, mounts off the bat...08:48
mwepaladinew: freenx.berlios.de08:48
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iantecare there many people here using kde?08:48
thegladiatorand no printer I have , so I can remove HP Linux printing and Imagins system ? also PPP , since I dont use a telephone modem , I use cable modem08:48
thefamousnomoalso a 1gb flash drive, same make, cannot get it to mount...08:48
trappistiantec: I use kde, but most kde users are in #kubuntu08:49
mweiantec: most are in #kubuntu I recon08:49
thegladiatoriantec, there are many actually08:49
trappistthefamousnomo: any interesting output in dmesg when you insert it?08:49
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soundraythegladiator, don't remove ppp. It doesn't take up too much space, and may come in handy.08:49
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thegladiatoryep08:49
thefamousnomosorry man, not up on irc ettiquette (or spelling there of!!)08:49
iantecsorry im new to linux...how do i connect to another channel ?08:49
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thegladiatorhplip can be removed yes?08:49
thefamousnomohold on my friend...08:50
conflikttrappist: i fixed but i have to start with sudo ?08:50
thegladiatoriantec, /join #<channel name>08:50
Blippeiantec "/j #kubuntu"08:50
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dannym_hi08:50
thegladiatorthisn is ubuntu help so stick to ubuntu topics08:50
trappistconflikt: sorry, I forgot what your problem is.  I hope you're not the gaim guy.08:50
Josh43quick q; what is the commandline for the gnome system manager?08:50
Blippehi08:50
mwewhat's a teql device?08:50
claudiuhello, i have a problem installing gstreamer - it is freezing08:50
mweifconfig shows teql108:50
thefamousnomonot sure what you mean man, to expand, i am new to ubuntu...08:50
iantecthnx!! man its really amuzing how innocent you can get when you first try linux:)08:50
mweand I have no idea what it is08:50
thegladiatorsoundray, if there is no printer , I can safwely remove HP Linux prininting and Image system ? or is it something else ?08:50
conflikttrappist: that would be me08:50
thefamousnomoand loving it muchly, considering using as my main os, started as a test you see...08:51
soundraythegladiator, I think you can.08:51
trappistthefamousnomo: insert device; run 'dmesg' in a console; look at the last half-dozen or so lines08:51
trappistconflikt: please don't run gaim as root08:51
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thefamousnomoanyway, all i see is drive unable to mount message08:51
iantecwell....just a thought though....since i really dont know anything about linux would it be better if i try using xandros first before i go ubuntu? because i read from many reviews that xandros is for the total newbie like me08:51
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thefamousnomowill do man!08:51
thegladiatordoes anyone know what pupose does HP Linux printing and imaging process does ? is it necessary to have it while booting if you dont have a  printer ? :)08:52
Josh43iantec, xandros sucks08:52
ianteclol08:52
trappistiantec: ubuntu is an excellent newbie distro08:52
trappistJosh43: don't distro-bash please08:52
mweiantec: ubuntu is great for n00bs, I second that08:52
thegladiatoriantec, yes it will be a good idea08:52
thegladiatori second that XANDROS can be tried before you make a shift to ubuntu .08:52
Josh43iantec, It /used/ to be a good newbie distro, but that was before ubuntu existed.. ubuntu has been an awesome newbie distro for like 180 months08:52
thegladiatorbut make sure you dont get stuck :)08:52
trappistJosh43: 15 years, eh?08:53
Josh43Ahem.. 18 months08:53
Josh43:P08:53
Prozacdoes anybody know how to set the user defined reply with pidentd?08:53
claudiuhello, i have a problem installing gstreamer - it is freezing08:53
thegladiatorubuntu has certain defects like mp3 support etc which could be preplexing for a nwebie , i myself felt it . so Xandros wouldnt be bad , ofcourse it has to have these features08:53
thegladiatorjust IMHO08:53
lowman62warm it up?08:54
Josh43anyone know what the commandline is for the gnome system manager?08:54
thegladiatorgnome-system-manager ?08:54
iantecwell im a real fresh linux user....i think i have the savvy for windows....but since i "think" i know it too well and read so many things about linux i think it is the right os for me...but i find it hard to learn even if i am reading a LOT of things about it...really confusing ....08:54
Josh43thegladiator, That's what the auto-script is for08:54
thegladiatorprobably ?08:54
trappistProzac: sorry I meant oidentd08:54
soundraythegladiator, the defect is in the MP3 licensing though, not in Ubuntu.08:54
Prozacoh08:54
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Prozacill try to google that then :)08:54
mwesoundray: yeah :)08:54
thegladiatorsoundray, yes agree i shud have said "defect" :)08:54
Josh43gnome-system-monitor ; perfect - your hint and tab-completion, thanks :)08:55
thegladiatorwelcome :)08:55
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claudiu"Setting up gstreamer0.8-vorbis" takes forever08:55
Blippeiantec, just install ubuntu, and screw around with it, it is the best way to learn!08:55
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claudiucould anyone help me please ?08:55
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thegladiator!anyone08:55
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>08:55
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soundraythegladiator, he has asked his question.08:56
Blippeclaudiu, define "forever"...08:56
eSPetehow do i boot the vol in general?08:56
iantecyep im using it now....jsut isntalled the kde desktop.:) i find it more friendly than the gnome...well just an opinion08:56
mweman, performanc or ssh X forwarding sucks08:56
Josh43mwe, Try nxserver08:56
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trappistmwe: it doesn't have to08:56
mwetrappist: but it does here though08:56
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brian_ok, need help again.........I cannot get the nvidia driver to install, the script tells me that i have nvidiafb enabled for my kernel......I've removed all nvidia kernel and glx stuff but im still getting this error, how do i disable this? Do i HAVE to recompile my kernel or can i apt-get one without this nvidiafb business?08:57
trappistmwe: try with -c blowfish08:57
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Josh43mwe, Instructions are in the forums, and the benefit is that it complresses the x-session before sending it.. I was pleasantly surprised08:57
mwetrappist: I'll try it, thanks for the tip08:57
claudiu"Setting up gstreamer0.8-vorbis" takes forever like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/690808:57
trappistmwe: blowfish is plenty secure and much faster than the default08:57
claudiuBlippe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/690808:57
mwetrappist: ok08:57
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thegladiatorlet me check if the boot speed has increasde brb08:58
studenthow do I get root access and make the user a regular user?08:58
iantecanyways.... is there anyone here folding?08:58
paladinewhow do I edit my /etc/apt/sources.list?  it only allows me read access08:58
trappiststudent: huh?08:58
mweiantec: use sudo08:58
claudiuBlippe: i am using kde and wanted to install gstreamer, maybe i shouldn't08:58
brian_How do i get a kernel without nvidiafb support?08:58
mwe!tell iantec about rootsudo08:58
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Josh43iantec, commandline: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list08:58
trappistpaladinew: sudo <editor> /etc/apt/sources.list08:58
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studenttrappist:  I have no access to root account.  I want to get access to the root account, and make it so that the regular user cannot behave like an administrator.08:59
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Blippeclaudio, i used gstreamer on kde...08:59
mwestudent: use sudo -i when you need a root prompt08:59
trappiststudent: that's accomplised via sudo - sudo <command> to execute just that command as root08:59
trappist*accomplished08:59
soundraystudent, glad you got this far. Set up an additional user if you need a non-privileged one.08:59
thefamousnomo_sorry man, lost it there. demsg not found!!08:59
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claudiuBlippe: what is the use of gstreamer on kde really ?08:59
mwestudent: regular users don't have root access08:59
brian_dmesg, not demsg08:59
iantecjosh43 what wiull that command do? i typed it in the terminal all it did was to produce another line (empty)09:00
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mwestudent: only users in the admin group can use sudo by default09:00
Blippeclaudio, i really don't know!09:00
studentmwe:  oh, admin group huh?09:00
mwestudent: yeah09:00
dannym_hola!09:00
jorgeuhi, i have problems installing nvidia drivers. Can anyone help?09:00
trappiststudent: sudo visudo to see the current sudo config09:00
brian_jorgeu: join the club man09:00
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dannym_lol09:00
mwestudent: users who a member of the admin group09:00
brian_i have the same problem09:00
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jorgeucan't find the precompiled kernel interface09:01
soundraybrian_, jorgeu, have you RTFM?09:01
soundray!nvidia09:01
ubotumethinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736809:01
thefamousnomo_@trappist: bash: demsg: command not found09:01
jorgeui have installed the kernel headers but no progress09:01
brian_i cant, because i cant get into X now09:01
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brian_and lynx wont load the nvidia manual proper09:01
mwestudent: setting the root password defeats basic ubuntu security policy09:01
studentoops I should have added a new admin user before disabling the current one09:01
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studentmwe: am I screwed?09:01
mwestudent: why?09:01
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Blippeclaudiu why don't you apt-get it?09:02
brian_anyway, I was just asking how i get a kernel without nvidiafb09:02
brian_because the nvidia driver installer requires it09:02
brian_its failing now09:02
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brian_i apt-get removed all nvidia stuff, glx and the kernel thing09:02
studentmwe: I removed my user account from the admin group, before adding a new one that belongs to the admin group09:02
brian_but its still giving me the same error09:02
mwestudent: you can work around it09:02
iantecanyways...i read that i user account is needed for paly and for work.... what if i started out with a native user account... and now i have a new one for my daily task...how do i get my bookmarks from that other user account that i was using before09:02
studentmwe: howso?09:02
mwestudent: using grub?09:02
studentyes I am09:03
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studentthis is fresh install of ubuntu09:03
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paladinewI keep getting the folowing error when trying to install FreeNX "   Couldn't stat source package list http://kanotix.com ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kanotix.com_files_debian_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)09:03
paladinew"09:03
mwestudent: breezy?09:03
studentmwe: yes09:03
studentmwe: breezy is latest, yes?09:03
thefamousnomo_hey guys, probs mounting 1gb flash when 256mb of same model mounts off the bat. any ideas????09:03
misiuklowman62: are you there?09:03
mwestudent: hilight the entry you usually boot. then press "e" to edit it09:03
monziecan someone please suggest a cool-looking desktop environment09:04
studentmwe: alright, and then?09:04
monziesorry, window manager09:04
mwestudent: then "e" again. go the end of the line and type init=/bin/sh09:04
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trappistthefamousnomo_: it's spelled dmesg09:04
thefamousnomo_im a twat!09:04
studentmwe: got that, anything else?09:04
mwestudent: that will boot you into a console only root prompt09:04
soundraymonzie, Enlightenment. So cool you can't really use it seriously :)09:04
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studentmwe: oh and then just add the user back to admin group09:05
mx-rhi. could someone help?09:05
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mwestudent: then use gpasswd -a <username> admin09:05
trappistsoundray: e17 even more so09:05
studentmwe: thanks09:05
moodogevening all?09:05
mx-rjust installed ubuntu... boot stops at Starting Hotplug09:05
studentmwe: brb09:05
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paladinewI keep getting the folowing error when trying to install FreeNX "   Couldn't stat source package list http://kanotix.com ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kanotix.com_files_debian_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)09:05
claudiuBlippe: i try apt-get something but it keeps complaining about some error, it says E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.09:05
soundraypaladinew, are you on Ubuntu?09:05
DRAGONCIAO09:06
the_eyegcc-question: how do I get version 3.4.5? the ubuntu i have here has 4.0.1-3 .. i need 3.4.5 .. how do i apt-get old versions of programs? apt-get install gcc-3.4.5 doesn't work ..09:06
paladinewyes, 5.1009:06
trappistclaudiu: it tells you exactly how to solve the problem man09:06
KnowerrorsI have a problem with my monitor, if its turned off while booting, then turned back on, the resolution and refresh rate are terrible and can't be changed, is there a way to fix this besides always having monitor on?09:06
claudiutrappist: ok but dpkg hangs forever09:06
claudiutrappist: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/691009:06
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thefamousnomo_@trappist: seems ok, but im a dos-to-windows fumbling idiot (see earlier spelling error!)09:06
soundraypaladinew, can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org pls.09:07
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thefamousnomo_unknown partition table...?09:07
paladinewsoundray: sure, sec09:07
AskHLGood evening. I'm trying to get an ssh tunnel running, and it works. But I cannot start up X windows through it. Most of the applications say something along the lines of: "Can't open display". I have done this in Mandrake, but now I use ubuntu. Does anyone have a clue of what might be going on?09:07
thefamousnomo_message box says *given udi is not a mountable volume*09:07
soundrayAskHL, you need to configure ssh to forward X. Possibly using -X option.09:08
AskHLLike ssh -X -somethingSomthing ?09:08
thefamousnomo_im guessing partition issue, though both run on my windows machines no worries. parition size issues...?09:08
AskHL(where somethingSomething is what I already wrote)09:08
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paladinewsoundray: pasted09:08
soundrayAskHL, either that, or edit config files in /etc/ssh/09:08
AskHLsoundray: it works perfectly! Thanks a lot!09:09
the_eyei found the "transition to gcc-4" page in the wiki .. still: how do I get old gcc installed?09:09
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claudiucan ayone help me with dpkg > jpatrick: i use xine-lib in kaffeine for audio-video09:09
trappistthefamousnomo_: http://www.ubuntux.org/node/20109:09
gorskihow to uninstall phpmyadmin?09:09
claudiucan ayone help me with dpkg >http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/691309:09
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mx-rgorski - you cannot uninstall php my admin per se... you simply delete the directory09:10
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claudiupls help me with dpkg >http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/691309:10
andrewdhttp://encarta.msn.com/map_701514536/Massachusetts.html09:10
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akshayi was doing #apt-get update & i get this error '44% [Connecting to in.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)] '09:10
studentmwe:  did not work yet.09:11
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=== rayyyys :is there anyway i can run ubutu live in ram?
gorskiwich one09:11
rayyyyskernal options?09:11
gorski?09:11
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rayyyysor horry spose09:11
mwestudent: what happened?09:11
thefamousnomo_@trappist: thank you very much. i am finding terminology / user enviroment a bit difficult to get to grips with, but i WILL persevere. this is the first os ive ever been excited about! (*blush*)09:11
studentmwe:  booted to grub.  highlighted default entry.  pressed 'e'.  pressed 'e' again.  typed in 'init=/bin/sh'.  then pressed 'b' to boot.  system just booted up like normal.09:11
EugmanAnyone here well acquainted with the MBR?09:11
akshayis there anyone who can help me i searched  google but the stuff was posted there was not workin09:11
rayyyys!nocache09:12
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ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, rayyyys09:12
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mwestudent: it's the kernel line you're supossed to edit09:12
studentmwe: oh not the root line?09:12
soundraypaladinew, still here?09:12
rayyyys!live ram09:12
ubotuI haven't a clue, rayyyys09:12
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rayyyys:s09:12
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hkaishello09:12
soundraypaladinew, try replacing the last line in your sources.list with deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas all09:12
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studentmwe: kernel line is the second one I believe?09:12
mwestudent: no09:12
mwestudent: yes the second or third09:13
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studentmwe: do I make a space before typing in init=/bin/sh, or just type it in without making a space in front.09:13
Maqs__hi09:13
paladinewok, sec09:13
rayyyyscan anyone here tell me if theres a comon way to run live in ram?09:13
mwestudent: the one that begins with the word kernel09:13
hkaishas anyone experience with the ati propritary driver? i have problems with the clonemode for the second screen09:13
andrewderr... what the heck are you guys talking about...09:13
mwestudent: space first09:13
studentmwe: brb09:13
soundraypaladinew, then 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install freenx'09:13
gorskihow to restart apache209:13
cello_raspgnome forgets my network settings every time i reboot ubuntu.. help!09:13
soundrayrayyyys, you mean like knoppix toram ?09:14
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autosuggestedcello_rasp: what does your /etc/network/interfaces file look like?09:15
hkaisgorski: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart09:15
rayyyyssoundray: some live cd you can put enought in to ram that you can unmout and eject the cd09:15
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paladinewsoundray: GPG error: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D46609:15
rayyyyssoundray: thats all I want to do09:15
monziehow do i change the window manager in GNOME?09:15
monzieI am using Breezy09:15
paladinewsoundray: got that when I was doing apt-get update09:15
gorskiok, how to solve this, please: #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)09:15
mwegorski: it's the third time you ask within an hour09:15
rayyyyswell and then mount other stuff09:15
rayyyysofcoures09:16
hkaishas anyone experience with the ati propritary driver? i have problems with the clonemode for the second screen?09:16
gorskiyes, i didn't get the answer for mysql.09:16
soundrayrayyyys, I don't think there is a "common way", but if they can do it with live CDs it should be possible to do it with a HD installation...09:16
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monziecan anyone please tell me how i should get rid of metacity and install sawfish?09:16
trappisthkais: did you run fglrxconfig?09:16
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Prozacany way to test what my comp will respond on identd request? like make a "fake" identd request? (useing oidentd)09:16
soundraypaladinew, give me two min's pls.09:16
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cello_raspnooo09:17
hkaistrappist: fglrxconfig?09:17
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monziehelp please!09:17
rayyyyssoundray: well yeah if i installed it to harddrive that would do it but i want to use the live cd at someones elses house and swap cds while I at it09:17
trappisthkais: a script that ships with the ati drivers.  it's a wizard to build xorg.conf and it will handle your dual display.09:17
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_oPhello all09:17
bluesignhi all, I am trying to fully migrate to linux, but I have a problem. I _have to_ use vs.net for my job. So I am planning to run vmware, can I boot existing windows partition under VMwave?09:18
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monziehow can i use sawfish in GNOME? I am on Ubuntu Breezu09:18
hkaistrappist: thx i will try it09:18
cello_raspgnome never remembers my network settings, and i have to manually switch to the loaction config every time.. my /etc/network/interfaces > http://pastebin.com/49973609:18
paladinewok09:18
_oP@bluesign why not install windows on hd leave some space and install ubuntu or what ever as dual boot?09:18
rayyyysbluesign: I wouldn't09:18
trappistProzac: see /etc/oidentd.conf09:18
bluesign_oP: I don't wanna leave linux, ie: have to office apps etc09:19
rayyyysbluesign: go to there website they have heaps of warnings about doing that way09:19
bluesignrayyyys: why?09:19
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admin_hi09:20
admin_i'm an italian boy, i have a problem....who can help me?09:20
studentmwe: okay I got it to boot into the root console.  but the 'vi' command does not work.  what is the command to add user 'student' to the admin group?09:20
mweI heard you should be able to make tvout work with ati more or less by just plugging the cable in an reboot. Is that correct?09:20
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bluesignrayyyys: what can I do, other than dual boot?09:20
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mwestudent: gpasswd -a student admin09:20
rayyyysbluesign: it might have been in there forums but they do tell you if your not expereanced use a virtual drive thing09:20
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thefamousnomo_@trappist: added line to /etc/apt/sources.list09:20
thefamousnomo_, tried to apt-get install pmount but getting errors! do i have to (hate myself) restart for changes to take effect?09:20
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rayyyysbluesign: um09:21
omerHello09:21
studentmwe: thanks brb09:21
admin_WHO CAN HELP ME, PLEASE?09:21
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mwestudent: and you should never just edit the group/passwd file. use vipw/vigr09:21
trappistthefamousnomo_: you have to 'sudo apt-get update' for the changes to take effect09:21
omerI need hellp with kernel headers.09:21
rayyyysbluesign: im no expert but id say try ghosting it to a virtual drive thing09:21
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JulioHbuenas09:21
_jasonubotu, tell admin about ask09:21
rayyyysrayyyys: go to vmware help forums09:21
bluesignrayyyys: oh nice idea09:21
mweomer: what kind of help do you need with those headers?09:21
_oP@mwe u need to change ur xorg.conf file under /etc/X11/xorg.conf but make a backup first ! ill post my config also its not allowed ill do wait09:22
rayyyysbluesign: :)09:22
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thefamousnomo_i have just read this, i am a windoze loser man, i can believe it! restart.... doh!09:22
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_oP09:22
_oP        Option          "VideoOverlay"          "on"09:22
_oP        Option          "OpenGLOverlay"         "off"09:22
_oP        Option          "UseInternalAGPGART"    "no"09:22
_jasonadmin_, ubotu tell _oP about pastebin09:22
mwe_oP: press ctrl-c09:22
_oP        Option          "no_accel"              "no"09:22
_oP        Option          "no_dri"                "no"09:22
_oP        Option          "mtrr"                  "on"09:22
rayyyysbluesign, I think i may have remebmered people doing it  thay way (I think)09:22
_oPEndSection09:22
mwe_oP: youll get banned09:22
_oP##Driver1##09:22
kitty_please can somebody help me...i have absolutly no Audio playback.. i think ive got all the codecs i need but no sound comes from the speakers, ive tried all my audio ports so it must be a software problem.09:22
_oPSection "Device"09:23
_jasonubotu tell _oP about pastebin09:23
_oPIdentifier "TV Radeon 9800 Pro"09:23
mwe_oP: press ctrl-c09:23
mwe_oP: press ctrl-c09:23
mwe_oP: press ctrl-c09:23
mwe_oP: press ctrl-c09:23
_oPDriver "fglrx"09:23
mlalkakadoes anyone know why mplayer depends on xmms in the ubuntu repositories? it doesn't make sense to me.09:23
_oPBusID "PCI:2:0:0"09:23
_oP  Screen109:23
soundraypaladinew, you should be able to install freenx nevertheless. It just means that you're placing some trust in Seveas.09:23
_oP        Option          "VideoOverlay"          "on"09:23
_oP        Option          "OpenGLOverlay"         "off"09:23
_oP        Option          "UseInternalAGPGART"    "no"09:23
_oP        Option          "no_accel"              "no"09:23
mwe_oP: hello STOP IT09:23
_oP        Option          "no_dri"                "no"09:23
_oP        Option          "mtrr"                  "on"09:23
omerI need modversions.h and irq_vectors.h I try to compile the kernel headers by make prepare-all but those file don't exite at my kernel version09:23
mwe_oP: youll get banned09:23
_oPEndSection09:23
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_oPIdentifier "CompaqP1210"09:23
PygiOP STOP IT09:23
_oPHorizSync 30.0-121.009:23
mwe_oP: hello STOP IT09:23
mwe_oP: hello STOP IT09:23
rayyyysbluesign, I while ago since I got involved with vmware09:23
_oPVertRefresh 50.0-160.009:23
PygiOMG09:23
_oPOption "DPMS"09:23
PygiSTOP IT09:23
_oPEndSection09:23
PygiSTOP09:23
_oP##Monitor 1##09:23
_oPSection "Monitor"09:23
PygiSTOP I SAID09:23
_jason_oP, quit irc and come back!09:23
_oPIdentifier"Daewoo TV"09:23
_oPHorizSync31.509:23
PygiSTOP NOW OR FACE IT09:23
mwe_oP: youll get banned09:23
yggdrasil_gay09:23
PygiSTOP09:23
PygiSTOP09:23
mwe!ops09:23
PygiSTOP09:23
_oPVertRefresh 20-6009:23
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, johndarkhorse or nalioth.09:23
_oPOption "DPMS"09:23
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PygiSTOP09:23
paladinewsoundray: It wont let me do a apt-get install freenx09:23
CodenameKT_oP: quit09:23
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PygiSTOP09:23
soundrayPygi, how can he stop once he pasted...09:23
PygiSTOP09:23
_oPIdentifier"CTR"09:24
_oPDevice"CTR Radeon 9800 Pro"09:24
_oPMonitor"CompaqP1210"09:24
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newdleWEEWHOO09:24
Pygisoundray: still :/09:24
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paladinewsoundray:  Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)09:24
paladinewE: Unable to lock the list directory09:24
_oPModes"1600x1200"09:24
admin_OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO09:24
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Pygiomg OP QUIT NOW09:24
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Pygiomg OP QUIT NOW09:24
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Pygiomg OP QUIT NOW09:24
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Pygiomg OP QUIT NOW09:24
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ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, johndarkhorse or nalioth.09:24
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_oPDevice"TV Radeon 9800 Pro"09:24
newdleI LIKE MONKEYS09:24
mlalkakai don't think _oP can stop. once you paste a file into the chat, it'll keep coming until its done09:24
_oPMonitor "Daewoo TV"09:24
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soundraypaladinew, need to do it with sudo then.09:24
_oPModes"800x600"09:24
_jasonPygi, you're just spamming more, just let it be.  He pasted the entire buffer09:24
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kitty_please can somebody help me...i have absolutly no Audio playback.. i think ive got all the codecs i need but no sound comes from the speakers, ive tried all my audio ports so it must be a software problem.09:24
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newdleyou can disable the buffer with ctrl+break09:24
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newdleor ctrl+c usually09:24
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newdleor /stop09:24
_oPInputDevice"Generic Keyboard"09:24
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_oPsorry09:25
_oPsorry again09:25
yggdrasil_thank god09:25
_oPdo like obove and u have two seperate screens with no problems09:25
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CodenameKTlol09:25
CodenameKTwow so late09:25
paladinewsoundray:  ~$ sudo apt-get install freenx09:25
paladinewReading package lists... Done09:25
paladinewBuilding dependency tree... Done09:25
paladinewSome packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have09:25
paladinewrequested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable09:25
_jasonyggdrasil, firefox -profilemanager, maybe profile-manager... try both09:25
JulioHejejje09:25
kitty_WEL DONE09:25
paladinewdistribution that some required packages have not yet been created09:25
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mlalkakakitty_, what type of file are you trying to play (mp3, ogg, etc)?09:25
mwecrackhead09:25
paladinewor been moved out of Incoming.09:25
paladinewSince you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that09:25
kitty_MP309:25
paladinewthe package is simply not installable and a bug report against09:25
paladinewthat package should be filed.09:25
paladinewThe following information may help to resolve the situation:09:25
fabbioneJEEE09:25
mwepaladinew: don't paste in here09:25
kitty_AND OGG09:25
paladinewThe following packages have unmet dependencies:09:25
paladinew  freenx: Depends: expect but it is not installable09:25
paladinewE: Broken packages09:25
paladinewsorry09:25
rayyyysbluesign: allthough installing from scratch in a vm would be the easyest outside of time inconvenince, if you know what i mean09:25
yggdrasil_can somone tell me how to start up the firefox profile manager09:25
mlalkakadoes anyone know why mplayer depends on xmms in the ubuntu repositories? is there a way to install mplayer without xmms?09:25
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fabbioneSTOP FLOODING THIS CHANNEL09:26
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fabbioneUSE PASTEBIN09:26
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_jasonyggdrasil, i just did, scroll up09:26
mwefabbione: we should make ubotu autokick and warn spammers :)09:26
admin_i'm italian and i have a problem with ubuntu!!! who can help me, please please please??09:26
yggdrasil_k jason09:26
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Pygi!it09:26
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:26
_oPsorry again09:26
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Ophiocusargh, plastic bugs gimpshop file link is broken,. anyone knows where else i could get giumpshop?09:27
mwe_oP: don't do that again09:27
admin_ah grazie ubotu :)09:27
TyrsisCan someone help me with WLAN installation ?09:27
Pyginever again09:27
_oPno no09:27
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mwe_oP: please use the pastebin09:27
rayyyysmwe: mwe could i pick you for knowlage? is there any semi normal way to run live in ram?09:27
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yggdrasil_it was the first one jason09:27
yggdrasil_htank09:27
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mwe_oP: do you know pastebin?09:27
omerWhich kerenel ubuntu 5.10 came with?09:27
Pygi!pastebin09:27
ubotupastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org09:27
studentmwe:  gpasswd:  can't get lock09:27
Pygi!kernel09:27
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TyrsisI have used ndiswrapper as stated in the support page, but I still cant connect to the wireless connection ?09:27
Pygi!kernel09:28
mwestudent: um. hmm09:28
Seveasugh09:28
yggdrasil_i cant believe they let him back in09:28
_oPi have heard about it ..09:28
mwestudent: well09:28
Seveassomeone just tried to lose all hope at getting help...09:28
mwestudent: try vigr then09:28
Pygiseveas: huh?09:28
_oP@yggdrasil i have dynamic ip09:28
_oP:)09:28
studentmwe: I typed in gpasswd -a student admin.  it said "Adding user student to group admin." And then "gpasswd: can't get lock".09:28
studentmwe: what is vigr09:28
rayyyysmwe: should i take that as a no? :/09:28
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mwestudent: if it doesn't work nano or whatever editor /etc/passwd _carefully_09:28
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SeveasPygi, that pasting ***09:28
omercan you help me with my kernel? I have problem with the headers.09:29
ubuntuhello09:29
mlalkakai think i've found some sort of error in dependencies. mplayer depends on xmms, but doesn't use xmms for anything, as far as i can tell. has anyone else noticed this? should i report it to developers or something?09:29
Pygiseveas: true :/09:29
yggdrasil__op im intersted in seeng your pastebin09:29
studentmwe: nano may not work since vi did not09:29
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paladinewsoundray: oops09:29
soundraypaladinew, that wasn't very smart of you, after you used pastebin earlier...09:29
mwestudent: vigr uses $EDITOR to edit the groups file and wont let you save if the syntax is bad09:29
yggdrasil__op let me know when its done09:29
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rayyyysubuntu: hi ubuntu wellcome09:29
ubuntuwow linux wat to do hmm help09:29
gorskiplease, why does thisnot work: mysqladmin -u root password db_user_password?09:29
paladinewsoundray: I didn't relaize it would flood the channel09:29
CyfrHi, im using gparted from the ubuntu live cd, trying to resize my HDA3 which is usualy /home, I get an error that its busy once it finishs and it reverts back to normal?09:29
studentmwe: hell, I'm just going to reinstall09:29
mwestudent: are some partitions not mounted or something?09:29
mwestudent: no09:29
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mwestudent: it should be easy to fix09:30
studentmwe: I don't know, I assume they are mounted09:30
mwestudent: don't reinstall09:30
mwestudent: type mount09:30
paladinewsoundray: am I able to add the packages using synaptics manager ?09:30
mwestudent: you're on that machine now?09:30
soundraypaladinew, no, hold on a sec...09:30
studentmwe: yes09:30
thefamousnomo_@trappist: things are getting a little bit crazy now...09:30
mwestudent: pastebin the output of mount09:30
studentmwe: /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)09:30
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studentmwe: is that good enough?09:31
mwestudent: that's all?09:31
studentmwe: one sec I'll pastebin09:31
yatesythis channel needs the S service from QuakeNet ;P09:31
TyrsisAnyone know what I am doing wrong trying to get my WLAN to work ?09:31
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rayyyysSeveas : can i ask you is there any way to run the live cd in ram?09:31
yatesythats what it does?09:32
yggdrasil_selinium-p90009:32
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studentmwe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/691509:32
mwestudent: is vi installed?09:32
thefamousnomo_@trappist: now synaptic is telling me i have broken packages. 3 i think cannot be retrieved...09:32
studentmwe: yes it is09:32
studentmwe: and it's my preferred console config file editor09:32
mwestudent: all right so you probably need to type the full path09:33
mwestudent: /usr/bin/vi09:33
studentmwe: to vi you mean09:33
_oP@rayyyys if u have the live cd u have to setup ur bios to boot from cd, but u dont have to worry it will not install over ur os, the ubuntu live  cd creates a ram drive and copies the needed files there09:33
studentmwe: /usr/bin/vi /etc/group09:33
studentmwe: like that?09:33
mwestudent: no wait09:33
hkaistrappist: I have set up my xorg.conf now but anyway the second display is only available if it is connected during boot09:33
seliniumyggdrasil, Hi there, off the P900 now!09:33
studentmwe: alright09:33
yggdrasil__op whats your pastebin url ?09:33
yggdrasil_selinium09:33
mwestudent: try vigr09:33
yggdrasil_ive gota 91009:33
mwestudent: /usr/sbin/vigr09:34
studentmwe: what should be the command using vigr?09:34
_oP@yggdrasil_ how do i set u up a pastebin?09:34
seliniumyggdrasil, I was just connected using irssi via PUTTY for the 900!09:34
rayyyys_oP: what im try to do is run it in ram so i can umount and eject the cd09:34
studentmwe:  and what happens next?09:34
yggdrasil_ahh right on09:34
mwestudent: but try /usr/bin/gpasswd -a student admin first09:34
yggdrasil_what putty client do you use ?09:34
mwestudent: or then /usr/sbin/vigr09:34
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Tyrsishmmmm09:34
yggdrasil__op just go the ther and u sign in09:34
mwestudent: or as the last resort /usr/bin/vi /etc/group09:34
studentmwe: alright I'll try that09:35
mwestudent: and be careful with the last one09:35
yggdrasil_mwe uboto tell _op about pastebin09:35
yggdrasil_uboto tell _op about pastebin09:35
soundraypaladinew, remove all the # signs from the lines beginning with deb http in your /etc/apt/sources.list, then run 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo dpkg --configure -a'09:35
rayyyys_oP: i am fully aware it won't afect my hd09:35
yggdrasil_selenium msg me if you want09:35
_oP@rayyyys okay :)09:35
omerwhich gcc is the gcc of 2.6.2.12.10-386?09:35
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seliniumyggdrasil, http://matrix.tmit.bme.hu/putty/   :) I have a irc client as well!09:35
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yggdrasil_ive got irc09:35
yggdrasil_but didnt have an ssh09:35
yggdrasil_well the ssh i have is um09:35
paladinewsoundray: ok, sec09:35
mwe_oP: can you use pastebin to paste your xorg.conf for me, please?09:36
yggdrasil_not free09:36
rayyyys_oP so do you understand what i mean ?09:36
mwe!pastebin09:36
uboturumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org09:36
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mwe_oP: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org there09:36
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rayyyys_oP: I just can't beleave know one has an answer :?09:36
creatixhi, wei jemand wie man quicktime streams speichern kann?09:36
soundray!de09:36
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de09:36
creatixoh, sry09:37
thefamousnomo_hey, seem to have some issues retreiving 3 packages while attempting to upgrade to pmount 0.9.6-1. any ideas?09:37
_oP@rayyyys yes i guess u want to set up a ram drive witch will need no cd , but then what happens if u want to turn off ur pc ?09:37
soundraycreatix, klein plobrem :)09:37
mwecreatix: look into installing w32codecs09:37
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paladinewsoundray: updating...09:37
mwe!tell creatix about w32codecs09:37
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seliniumyggdrasil, the phantom rebooter...... :)09:37
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_Adam_yay09:37
_Adam_help please :)09:37
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_oP<-- noob needs to know how to set up a pastebin hehe09:38
mwe_oP: would you show me your xorg.conf?09:38
soundraymwe, he wants to *save* streams...09:38
Pygi!pastebin09:38
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org09:38
yggdrasil_yea me 209:38
paladinewsoundray: installing...09:38
mwesoundray: oh09:38
thefamousnomo_@trappist: sweating here man.....09:38
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mwesoundray: I guess my german could be better :)09:38
_Adam_i need help with header files for vmware tools09:38
ompaulrayyyys, as far as I know the answer is you can't09:38
mrd`How do I tell synaptic I'm not interested in ever upgrading a certain package?09:39
mwesoundray: speichern means save?09:39
Reiki-(antiQrist) [where can I find info about games / apps .. for ubuntu] 09:39
robotgeekmrd`: apt pinning09:39
soundraymwe, yes, save or store.09:39
mjrmrd`, not sure in synaptic, but you can say echo "package hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections09:39
mweI see09:39
mrd`mjr: I already marked it hold in aptitude.09:39
mrd`mjr: Does that do the same thing?09:39
mjryes09:40
nerochiarohi, ubuntu and gnome newbie here. i'm having problem with audio input. everytime i use audio recorder or the input test in "multimedia systems selector" the whole application hangs and i'm forced to kill it. anyone has any suggestions ?09:40
mjr(well, should, to my knowledge)09:40
rayyyysompaul: ok I wish some off the logtimers would repliy on this09:40
_Adam_i need help with header files for vmware tools anyone?09:40
rayyyysompaul: thanks ompaul09:40
_oP@mwe why cant i send u a file?09:40
soundraypaladinew, sounds like you're well on the way. Hope you get it set up -- I have to go.09:40
_oP:)09:40
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thefamousnomo_thanks all the same man, think i have kinda ruined this install..... scared to restart09:40
mwe!pastebin09:40
ubotuwell, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org09:40
mrd`mjr: Well, I'll check just to be sure.  (I know I marked it hold on this machine, I *thought* I marked it hold on the other one too.)09:40
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mwe_oP: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org09:40
mwe_oP: just go there and paste09:41
paladinewsoundray: thank you very much09:41
mwe_oP: then post the url here09:41
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soundrayCheers, good night everyone.09:41
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Reiki-..Q: where can I find info about games / apps .. for ubuntu09:41
seliniumReiki-, In synaptic you can choose Sections (bottom left) then Games. Or you can try www.linuxgames.com09:41
Reiki-k  thanks09:41
mweReiki-: or happypenguin.org09:41
_Adam_i need help with header files for vmware tools anyone?09:41
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_oPdohh i am to drunk to , okay cool i will do09:41
Reiki-:)09:41
rayyyysso unfriendly here09:41
yggdrasil_great09:41
Pygi!patience09:41
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.09:41
LinDongerman ??09:41
LinDonchannel ??09:42
ompaulrayyyys, no, your question is unusual and maybe that no one has the answer09:42
_jason!de09:42
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de09:42
IAmAICan only suggest a package for quickly convertin multiple DOS formated files to Unix/Linux formated files in the shell?09:42
EdgeLnxHow do I update the X lol?09:42
IAmAI*anyone09:42
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yggdrasil_rayyyys actualy this is like the most forgiving linux chan ive ever seen09:42
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mwerayyyys: if no one answers, probably nobody knows right now09:42
rayyyysyggdrasil: hmm yeah i have seen harsher09:42
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_Adam_:(09:42
IAmAIThink I found one: http://www.thefreecountry.com/tofrodos/index.shtml09:43
rayyyysmwe: is that a don't no from you to?09:43
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mweyggdrasil_: linux chans are usually like BOFH: WHAT! you havnen't administered *nix servers for 15 years? Go back to windows :)09:44
yggdrasil_rayys thats what im saying this is the most easy going oone ive seen09:44
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yggdrasil_mwe yea totaly09:44
ompaulrayyyys, no, he is explaining why you got no answer, because no one knows, but I think I read somewhere and I trying to remember where that it does not09:44
iantecerrr....somehow i lost the icons near the clock how do i recover them.,...i cant see the icons of applications rtunnign at the background like kopete and gaim09:44
rayyyysyggdrasil: have some tips on irc edicate09:44
_Adam_i'm a windows admin :)09:44
yggdrasil_haha09:44
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_oPokay09:44
yggdrasil_rayyys first start by asking if anyone wants to cyber09:44
ompaul_Adam_, welcome to the bright side :-)09:45
_oPneed to adjust the file of course09:45
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yggdrasil_op post us your url ?09:45
_Adam_i just cant get the header files i need09:45
odathi everyone09:45
_oPservas09:46
trappist_Adam_: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)09:46
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trappist_Adam_: oh oops you didn't mean kernel headers09:46
rayyyysyggdrasil_:  yeah him that'll break the ice09:46
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mwe_oP: what's the pastebin address?09:46
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trappistIAmAI: dos2unix09:46
_oPhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/691709:46
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_Adam_i did i need the ones for the kernal09:47
IAmAItrappist: I though that was just for Unix?09:47
iantechow do i restore my kde desktop/09:47
yggdrasil__op yes!!!!i knew you could do it09:47
iantec?09:47
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ompaul_Adam_, >> sudo apt-get install build-essential << is the command that I think you want09:47
_oPthis if u want to set up two seperate screens so .. "no clone"09:47
IAmAItrappist: Or Solaris, or whatever...09:47
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_oPi am also using a ati radeon 9800 pro09:47
trappistIAmAI: there's no difference09:47
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IAmAIOK.09:47
mwe_oP: ok09:48
IAmAIGonna try tofrodos09:48
ompaul_Adam_, do you want Ubuntu to tbe the host or guest ?09:48
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trappistIAmAI: it's part of the sysutils package, if you don't have it09:48
IAmAIOK09:48
_Adam_ok... cos i need files in the usr/scr/linux/included/  dirctory09:48
_Adam_the guest09:48
mwe_oP: do you know what line tells it to use tvout?09:48
trappist_Adam_: oh, you DO want kernel headers.  do what I said then :)09:48
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mwe_oP: "VideoOverlay" ?09:48
IAmAItrappist: I got some Linxus drivers from a manufacturer's website and all the scripts are in DOS format!09:48
IAmAItrappist: The idiots...09:48
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mweIAmAI: lol09:49
trappistIAmAI: that's the worst thing I've ever heard09:49
mweIAmAI: perl -pi -e 's/\r\n$/\n/' dos.txt09:49
trappistthat could work too09:49
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trappistor perl -pi -e 's/\r\n$/\n/' $(find /path/to/files -name '*.c' -o -name '*.h')09:50
omerCan you help me with compaile kernel headers?09:50
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trappistomer: you don't compile kernel headers09:51
rseeberhey09:51
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_Adam_sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) didnt work09:51
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hkaistrappist: sorry tried a restart09:51
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omerI have problem with them.09:51
rseeberi just installed unbuntu and love it, but how do i get firefox 1.509:51
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_Adam_its unable to lock stuff09:51
hkaistrappist: i have the same problem again. my second display won't run09:51
trappist!tell rseeber about firefox1509:51
_Adam_oh hang on09:51
hkaishave I to do something special?09:51
omerThere is two files I need that exicte only at my old kernel. What can I do?09:51
_Adam_working now09:51
trappisthkais: remind me - you're the nvidia guy or the ati guy?09:52
_oP@@mwe hmm dunno here i have my pc plus tv running, with two independent screens running, so i can watch movie on tv and play games on ctr09:52
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trappistomer: what specifically are you trying to do09:52
hkaisati09:52
rseeberthanks09:52
trappisthkais: you ran fglrxconfig?09:52
hkaistrappist: ati09:52
hkaistrappist: yes09:52
_oP@trappist i wouldent do that !!09:52
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trappisthkais: I'm afraid that's all I can do for ya.  it worked flawlessly for me.09:53
kestrahey, I want to set up a 32 bit chroot on my 64 bit installation... as I understand i'd have to get gnome/xserver .. but how do you then work in that 32 environment? I mean you don't have to restart or anything?.. is it in a seperate window or what? :)09:53
hkaistrappist: the second display works, but only if i restart the gdm than connected the second display09:53
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trappistkestra: you chroot to your chroot, basically09:53
_Adam_thats no good, the installer is being fussy and wants them in usr/scr/linux/include/09:53
hkaistrappist: but it is an problem if i want to make presentations via a projector09:53
_oPlol, dohh! i am to tiddly :)09:54
omerTodo apt somehow update my kernel. So I need to run from the start the acx script, and it don't work, because of kernel headers. I have kernel headers on the computer, what I need to do now?09:54
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_oPcheers!09:54
trappistomer: sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)09:54
kestraokay.09:54
trappist_Adam_: what installer?09:54
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omerI done that09:55
_Adam_vmware-tools-config.pl09:55
mrd`mjr: Thanks, that worked.09:55
hkaistrappist: could you post me your xorg.conf?09:55
trappist_Adam_: iirc it prompts you for the location of your kernel headers09:55
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omerI have linux headers. I just now notice that. Thanks any way.09:55
_oPwhat do smokers say if they light a cigarette ? "cheers" ? hmm...?09:55
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hkaistrappist: does your ati control displays the selected desktop setup?09:56
holonghello every109:56
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trappisthkais: www.linuxkungfu.org/tmp/xorg.conf09:56
SetI'm going insane over this09:56
trappisthkais: can't quite parse that last question09:56
ompaulSet, over what?09:56
_oP@Set yes what is the prob`?09:56
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_Adam_yes trappist, but it complains it cant find the linux directory09:56
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bakkkI am installing FCGI and I am getting configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH09:57
icarosl09:57
ompaul_oP, you really don't need the @ most clients change colour when a users name is used09:57
Guest8438hi how do i change the keyboard layout in fluxbox / UBUNTU09:57
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trappist_Adam_: it's not insisting on a location.  it's prompting you and providing its best guess.  just tell it the path to your real headers.09:57
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hkaistrappist: if you start your ati control, what is selected in the dual screen tab\desktop setup?09:57
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_Adam_i tried that and it siad there isnt a directory called linux like it expected09:58
Set_oP, well. to make it short. I am fiddling with a server setup. First I tried SUSE. But the community is quite arrogant and unhelpful towards n00bs, it seems. All I want to do is to setup a server with ssh, sftp, a server called TwonkyVision. that's the core things I need for it, all other things I can fiddle with for years, if it takes that.09:58
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_oP@ompaul okay but i like it, its more personal09:58
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SetSo, having had *very* good experiences with k/ubuntu earlier, with the helpfulness of you guys, I'm wondering if ubuntu can do this09:58
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_Adam_my misstake09:58
_Adam_i just tried restarting the config.pl and its found them :P09:59
_Adam_sorrys09:59
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Guest8438any 1, keyboard layout in ubuntu, how to change?09:59
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kerub88hello all!09:59
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omerHello09:59
_Adam_thanks trappist09:59
pansonichello09:59
kerub88can anybody help to me?10:00
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_oPsuse there u only find noobs like me, u are right here10:00
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gnomefreakkerub88, not if we dont know whats wrong10:00
kerub88:)10:00
_oPgood people good help :)10:00
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tonyyarussoGuest8438, One moment, I may be able to find that.  (I'm using Gnome, which has a GUI for it, but I don't know anything about Fluxbox.)10:00
TeskupoDreamglider!!10:00
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kerub88I install ubuntu an hour ago...10:00
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trappisthkais: that was the first time I ever used ati control, and if I enable tv-out I get the same behavior you're seeing.  screwed me all up :)10:00
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hkaislol10:01
_oP@@@@@@@@@10:01
kerub88and i cant set the monitor resolution higher then 640*48010:01
hkaistrappist: sorry10:01
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trappistnp10:01
_oP@10:01
cvt|kdeno shockwave?10:01
hkaistrappist: i will try your xorg.conf10:01
_oP:)10:01
hkaiswhich card do you have?10:01
trappistI dunno, some laptop card10:01
kerub88nvidia10:01
gnomefreakkerub88, does your monitor or vc support over 640 480?10:01
Set_oP, I didn't say you were a n00b. I said SUSE is unhelpful towards n00bs, like me (to my experience)10:01
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tonyyarussoGuest8438, Okay, I have something.  Keyboard layouts for X are defined in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, in the InputDevice | Keyboard section.10:02
Guest8438tonyyarusso i also have Gnome can i change the layout in gnom would it change in fluxbox too?10:02
trappistkerub88: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:02
kerub88yes of course (1024*768)10:02
tonyyarussoGuest8438, Maybe.  Worth a try.10:02
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odatSCO is gonna lose lololo hooray lol10:02
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gnomefreakkerub88, use the command trappist just gave and change it10:02
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studentokay how do I make it so that when I am logged in as a non-admin user, I can use the "su" program to run programs if I need to.  I don't necessarily want to log-off the user and re-login with the admin account.10:02
trappiststudent: you want to use sudo for that10:03
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gnomefreakstudent, use sudo than the command10:03
ompaulSet, is there a linux client or sever for this twonkyserver10:03
Guest8438but when i do it i think i loos my graphic setting on my comp i have a vaio with a wired resolution10:03
tonyyarussoGuest8438, If you have to edit that file, look for the lines with XkbModel and XkbLayout (mine are pc104 and us, respectively).10:03
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studenttrappist: gnomefreak: I can't use sudo because the user is not in the admin group.10:03
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Setompaul, Yes, it is. I don't have a problem running it, but I'm having problems making it run at startup (not being started manually)10:03
tonyyarussoGuest8438, No idea about the graphics setting.10:04
ompaulSet, how do you start it on the command line?10:04
trappiststudent: to do that you'd have to enable the root account, which can be done but it defeats the purpose of how ubuntu handles root access10:04
Set./TwonkyMedia10:05
trappistgah.10:05
_omerlhHow can I switch the kernel to my old and good one?10:05
Pygifreaky: please read ur mail10:05
ompaulSet, heh, okay so is it fair to say that it is in your home directory10:05
tonyyarusso_omerlh, Do you still have the old one installed, or did you delete after upgrading?10:05
Pygifreaky: ping10:05
gnomefreaki just did im sending it back10:05
_oPSet what i meant is that if u had suse running u cant expect experts :) ubuntu is build up on debian which has proven it self over many years espessialy in forums and help channels10:05
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Pygifreaky:k,I'll look10:05
gnomefreaki hope :(10:05
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_omerlhNo, I think I have. I don't  delete anything.10:06
Shackleton1986hi10:06
tonyyarusso_omerlh, Also, do you use Grub, Lilo, or something else for your bootloader?10:06
gnomefreakdamnit thunderbird is down let me re-send this :(10:06
_omerlhI think grub.10:06
ompaul_oP, conversation in #ubuntu-offtopic please this is a support channel and altough interesting chats elsewhere please as we have over 650 here10:06
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odatwho wants a kick ass sources list?10:06
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Blacken__Howdy, folks. Anyone have any experience trying to install 5.10 under VMware 4?10:07
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tonyyarusso_omerlh, Okay, take a look at /boot/grub/menu.lst, see if it has multiple entries, with each of the kernels.10:07
woodgrainhow do I find out what version of JRE is on my system?10:07
_oPhee`10:07
Setompaul, do you think you could be able to help me with setting up an anonymous ftp server that allows anonymous users upload into an upload directory in ubuntu?...10:07
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woodgrainIs JRE part of the ubuntu base install?10:07
tonyyarusso_omerlh, If it does, you'll just have to change the default one.  If not, I think update-grub will check the system for kernels and add them.10:08
_oPpff :))10:08
ompaulSet, shall we sort one thing at a time10:08
tonyyarussowoodgrain, No, it wouldn't be legal.10:08
odatwoodgrain, no10:08
john_Anybody run ubuntu on vmware?10:08
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tonyyarussowoodgrain, A good way to find if you have it though is locate j2re.10:08
Blackenjohn_: I'm trying to, at least.10:08
Ribsjohn_: I do.10:08
paladinewwhere do I find my IP ?10:08
RibsWhat's up?10:08
john_How's it going10:08
odattonyyarusso, sup10:08
Pygipaladinew: ifconfig10:08
paladinewty10:08
john_Mine is a bit sluggish10:08
tonyyarussoodat, Back and school, and liking not having to use dialup anymore!10:09
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Setompaul, yes. of course. but I haven't installed ubuntu yet, so maybe it's rude to ask then? I was just wondering if ubuntu is a better choice for my needs10:09
Blackenjohn_: Terrible. I can't even install the Christing thing.10:09
woodgraintonyyarusso, but I can put it on if I want to, eh?10:09
Ribsjohn_: The virtual machine will always be slower than the real one.10:09
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odattonyyarusso, i bet!!10:09
tonyyarussowoodgrain, Yep.10:09
_omerlhyes, there is two kernels there.10:09
tonyyarusso!tell woodgrain about java10:09
tonyyarusso!tell woodgrain about javadebs10:09
tonyyarussowoodgrain, Those should help.10:09
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woodgraintonyyarusso,  do people commonly put JRE on ubuntu boxes or is it weird?10:09
_omerlhthanks you10:09
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tonyyarussowoodgrain, I don't know about everyone else, but I do because I need it for applets on certain web sites.10:10
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Itz  got ptoblem with apache 2.0.54 (ubuntu)  not showing my native language correct and yes my html got: <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">  but it aint working anyway... if i open the content on my harddrive its showing correct10:10
woodgraintonyyarusso, big help thatnks a lot -- I'm trying to run eclipse, which requires jre.10:10
tonyyarussowoodgrain, Also, PLF repos have current jre versions, if you want to check out those.10:10
ompaulSet, not really, the thing is that if you have the box in front of you then we can do one thing at a time however before you go to do that let me give you a URL you should read about adding packages in ubuntu10:10
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ompaul!tell set about repos10:10
woodgraintonyyarusso,  what's the PLF repository?10:10
odatwoodgrain, my ubuntu has everything you would fine in a commercial desktop OS  you pretty much have to add java,flash,mplayer,w32, etc etc. But once that stuff is installed   my ubuntu is bad ass10:10
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ompaul!tell set about synaptic10:11
BlackenUbuntu on VMware 4 is giving me trouble -- "Cannot install base system to /target/".10:11
BlackenIDE and SCSI emulation both bork.10:11
woodgrainodat, what's w32?10:11
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tonyyarussowoodgrain, Penguin Liberation Front.  They put together packages that are of, um, questionable legality to release.10:11
kerub88this works!!! many thanks!!10:11
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ompaulSet, read the stuff from ubotu before you start if you want to build a server with all sorts of extras in it10:11
tonyyarusso!tell woodgrain about plf10:11
trappistItz: is it a php file?10:11
odatwoodgrain, the codecs/dll for windows media video10:11
odatkerub88, what works?10:12
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gnomefreakthe res works now?10:12
Setompaul, I'll start installing it now :) Got the server right here and have an ubuntu cd10:12
Itztrappist,   http://vernus.mine.nu/VERNUS/10:12
ompaulSet, :-)10:12
woodgraintonyyarusso, does re-booting make an ubuntu box run faster?10:12
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Itztrappist,  ordinary html.. nothing fancy10:13
odatwoodgrain, no10:13
tonyyarussowoodgrain, I doubt it.10:13
trappistItz: it looks good to me.  you might check your browser settings, font, things like that10:13
Blackenodat, tonyyarusso: Untrue. Firefox leaks.10:13
mchasardis there an ubuntu lite version ?10:13
Setubuntu is able to apt-get dist-upgrade, from any version=10:13
BlackenA lot of memory gets chewed up.10:13
odattonyyarusso, wow there are newbies then there are NEWBIES   whew10:13
tonyyarussoBlacken, Explain?10:13
woodgrainodat, if I have 20 evince documents open and open office, that _should_ make my box run slower, right?10:13
gnomefreakubuntu lite? is that like miller lite?10:14
Blackentonyyarusso: Fx never releases all its image data and eventually you'll run out of memory.10:14
Blackenafk10:14
woodgrainodat, just trying to keep an eye out for instabilities.10:14
trappistwoodgrain: rebooting is not the solution for that10:14
mchasardlike mepis lite10:14
woodgraintrappist, what is?10:14
odatwoodgrain, depends on your hardware but prolly  YES10:14
Itztrappist,  it aint working on three computers... nor mozilla. ff . opera or internet explorer except when opening from harddrive... my native language  doesnt show correctly10:14
kerub88now, i can modify the monitor resolution:)10:14
tonyyarussoodat, Yeah, well, I was one of those VERY recently.10:14
trappistwoodgrain: closing what's open?10:14
mchasardjust in order to use it with older config10:14
kerub88(odat)10:14
odatBlacken, what did i say about firefox?10:14
woodgraintrappist, no joke, smarty!10:14
odattonyyarusso, lol i also forget how quickly i caught on10:14
odatlol10:14
gnomefreakmchasard, you can install server mode that is text only no GUI than install a lightweight desktop app like fluxbox or xfce10:15
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odatkerub88, ?10:15
trappistItz: whatever you just typed there as your language showed up as gibberish here, but your website looks great.  I do have a *lot* of fonts installed, though.10:15
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mchasardyes but for the moment i just want to use as livecd10:15
mchasardis there a lite version on live cd10:15
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Itztrappist, yeah but somehow it aint choosing correct charset so i cant see my swedish words. but it works from my harddrive so its obviously something with apache... also works on my pals webbserver under windows ms.10:16
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trappistItz: er wait, there doesn't seem to be any text here.  just images.10:16
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BlackenBack.10:16
trappistnm, not true10:16
tonyyarussoodat, Yeah, that still amazes me.  When I was first looking at things, they talked about the "steeper learning curve", and how that would make it harder to catch on initially.  Recently though, I saw another article that suggested that it should be looked at as you will know more sooner, and that seemed about right.10:16
kerub88five minutes ago, i ask for my problem here, trappist answer that.....  (odat)10:16
trappistItz: the O's look like diamonds, but that looks like maybe it's deliberate?10:17
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Itztrappist, no the o is a swedish latter that you cant see.. and neither am i but im suppose to do that ;)10:17
odatkerub88, ok10:17
trappistah hah.10:18
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kerub88so thx for answer, by all10:18
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thegladiatorthis is my memtest86+ result , do you think this could cause crashing of many applications esp firefox which crashes witout any error ?10:19
thegladiatorhttp://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6973/dsc002952sh.jpg10:19
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nerochiaroif anyone is willing to help, i have this problem with audio input: everytime i use audio recorder or the input test in "multimedia systems selector" the whole application hangs and i'm forced to kill it. this happens with both alsa and esd inputs.10:19
svb_moeJemand aus Deutschland da?10:19
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Profichillasvb_moe >> #ubuntu-de10:20
trappistItz: it may be a compile-time problem.  I'm checking.10:20
Itztrappist, ok thx10:20
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thegladiatorsomeone pleasE?10:20
trappistItz: also try this: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/core.html#adddefaultcharset10:20
Itztrappist,  i also changed my  sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales10:21
Itz since i was running utf-8before10:21
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Itztrappist, ok reading10:21
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thegladiatorgoing by the result of memtest http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6973/dsc002952sh.jpg , do you think this cud be causin applications like firefox to crash  ? it crashes many times . wondering if a mem replace can help . is it time to replace my mem ?10:21
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hkaistrappist: have you reconfigured something in the ati control?10:22
thegladiatorif its internal prog bug i'd save upgrading my RAM10:22
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Blacken "The base system install into /target/ failed." Anyone ever seen this error in VMware?10:22
trappisthkais: no, never used it before today10:22
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hkaisanyway is something preselected in dualscreen\desktop setup?10:23
greghey all i'v been here a few times lol has anyone ever install ShowEQ on ubuntu? if so plz msg me10:23
josephI have a regular user who does not belong to the admin group.  I want to be able to run admin programs while this user is logged in.  how can I accomplish this?10:23
hkaistrappist: anyway is something preselected in dualscreen\desktop setup?10:23
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kitty_can someone help me.. i cant get any audio in KDE or Gnome10:23
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mofomikemanI need help10:23
Itztrappist, sounds like your into something... whough i dont understand where i should change this syntax?10:23
trappisthkais: I don't have anything matching that description in my ati control10:24
tonyyarussokitty_, Can you get audio outside of the DEs?10:24
kitty_i dont know what that means...10:24
hkaistrappist: no tab dualscreen?10:24
mofomikemanPM me if you can offer support, please.10:24
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_jasonjoseph, add him to the admin group 'adduser USERNAME admin'10:24
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joseph_jason: I don't want to add him to the admin group...these are children students.10:24
trappistItz: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default10:24
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joseph_jason: I need to maintain separate admin and user accounts.  But when logged in as user, I want to be able to run admin programs optionally.10:25
josephis this impossible in ubuntu?10:25
trappistjoseph: if you're logged in as one of those guys, su - to your own account and then sudo10:25
_jasonjoseph, hrmm I don't know, you could 'su' to your user and then run them I suppose10:25
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Itztrappist,  ok looking into that now then10:26
trappistmofomikeman: you're not going to get any until you ask a question.  guaranteed.10:26
thegladiatorhttp://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6973/dsc002952sh.jpg  can someone tell me how good is memtest result ? is it time for immediate replacement ?10:26
SmasSiveAnyone have /var/run mounted with tmpfs?10:26
kitty_im not sure what you mean10:26
thegladiatorthe machine boots well. some apps crash though10:26
tonyyarussojoseph, You can define sudo for each user to allow them to run only certain programs.  Use visudo to edit the sudoers file, and you can add whatever you need them to be able to do to that.10:26
josephtrappist: _jason: okay but then what about the gnome system programs, would I have to launch them from console?  I wouldn't be able to just launch them from menu and have a dialogue come up asking me for the admin password.10:26
odatjoseph, its all in permisssion which you can find and change in user and groups10:26
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_jasonjoseph, launch them with 'gksudo' would work (if they need admin rights)10:27
_jasonjoseph, one sec, let em try something10:27
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ompaulthegladiator, new ram perhaps10:27
josephodat: tonyyarusso:  I want my user to have no admin permissions at all, and I want my admin user to have all the admin permissions.  When the user is logged on to his gnome session, I want to be able to launch programs that require admin permissions and have a dialogue come up asking me for appropriate password.10:27
ompaulthegladiator, you don't know what it will corrupt next10:27
thegladiatorit cud be causing many apps to crash in your opinion ?10:27
thegladiatori see'256 is a high number in 256MB ram ?10:28
thegladiator256 errors I mean10:28
ompauljoseph, just set up a second user and they don't have those permissions10:28
cyphasehttp://www.ucomics.com/foxtrot/2006/01/09/10:28
tonyyarussojoseph, Which do you mean by the "appropriate password"?  That of the normal user, or admin?10:28
erUSULhikenboot, i need to get a newer version of wireless-tools than the one shipped with breezy. i have googled to no avail. anyone knows how or whre to get it?10:28
ompaulthegladiator, that is an erro in the 108k location in ram10:28
josephtonyyarusso: that of the admin10:28
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mofomikemanregister10:28
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erUSULhikenboot, i need to get a newer version of wireless-tools than the one shipped with breezy. i have googled to no avail. anyone knows how or whre to get it?10:29
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thegladiatoraaah...so firefox etc could be using this location ?10:29
mofomikemanHow do I register?10:29
hkaisanyone else here with ati propritary driver and dual screen mode?10:29
thegladiatordoent these progs skip bad mem locations ?10:29
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josephtonyyarusso: the way it works in Debian, if you've ever used it....when regular users launch programs requiring root permission, a dialogue comes up asking for the password.10:29
gnomefreakmofomikeman, register what?10:29
thegladiatorthese programs  cant use good locations ? or such a feature is not available ?10:29
mofomikemanon mIRC10:29
tonyyarussojoseph, I haven't used Debian, but there are one or two things in Ubuntu that have asked for the root password, rather than the user password of a full sudoer.10:30
thegladiatormofomikeman, this is no MIRC HELP dude10:30
gnomefreaktype /msg nickserv register your password10:30
_jasonjoseph, you can lock the screen and then switch user, login as yourself, and then when you log out you'll return to the locked screen (the user would have to then type their password to unlock it)10:30
misiehsee http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup10:30
kitty_can someone help me to get my audio working...10:30
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joseph_jason: that's such an ordeal10:30
thegladiatorgnomefreak, does he mean mirc or freenode ?10:30
mofomikemanok ill ask my ubuntu questions then10:30
gnomefreakim assuming mirc works same way as xchat10:30
mofomikemanHOLD ON10:30
tonyyarussojoseph, Why do you need these things run by the admin but under another users login?  (I'm assuming the user in question would not know the admin password?)10:31
thegladiatormirc registration is for software...as sucj10:31
thegladiatorsuch*10:31
mofomikemanTwo questions:  My gui will not load, I have just installed it.  Right now I am booted to windows, as I don't know how to use the linux console (i was told ubuntu was more windows-like, for beginners).  And my other question, I do not know the password to the root account! I do not ever remember setting one up.10:31
gnomefreakthegladiator, dont have a clue mirc would be when he makes his name so i assumed freenode10:31
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_jasonjoseph, I agree with you, you are better off using 'su' in a terminal.  But I don't see how else you can get a menu etc.10:31
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ompaul!tell mofomikeman about root10:31
Sansulo everyone10:31
Itztrappist, ok i changed: AddDefaultCharset iso-8859-1    what do i need to do to get it enabled? apache2 restart?10:31
thegladiatorompaul, ah10:31
josephtonyyarusso: because these are student library computers that will be logged in as regular users.  In case something happens I might want to walk-up to it and launch a program that requires admin permissions.10:31
trappistItz: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart10:31
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mofomikemanthe password is locked as in "locked" ?10:32
thegladiatorompaul, wud the location 108k be used by firefox? or other applications ?10:32
ompaulmofomikeman run this  >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<10:32
gnomefreakmofomikeman, you use sudo and user password for "root" access10:32
ompaulmofomikeman, what said that?10:32
thegladiatortherer is no feture to skip damaged mem as hard disk does ?10:32
thegladiatorfeature*10:32
TTilusthegladiator: afaik no10:32
misiehwhat do you have to do to set up a ubuntu mashine as a router (i have both netcards working, i can connect to the internet from ubuntu, i can ping computers on my local network BUT they cannot go out to the internet)10:33
hkaisthegladiator: how do you wish to detect the defect ram?10:33
joseph_jason: is there a way to turn off this ubuntu sudo stuff and just go back to the regular way of doing things?10:33
tonyyarussojoseph, How often does "something happen"?  A new login seems like the simplest way, but I'll grant that it would be annoying to have to do a lot.  Also, is it absolutely necessary to have menu access, or could you live with launching from a command line?10:33
mofomikemanDAMNIT this is too confusing, too much talk10:33
TTilusthegladiator: other than totally skipping it off from the computer10:33
ompaulmofomikeman, read the full page it will be obvious, in using Ubuntu for a year and a good bit I have not had to use "root" all done through sudo10:33
_jasonjoseph, what's the regular way? using root?10:33
thegladiatorhkais, i dont know , it wud have been gr8 if its there10:33
thegladiatorTTilus, i see10:33
pramzjoseph: what benefit do you see from using a root account ?10:33
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Itztrappist,  same shit but i got a warning: [warn]  NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts10:33
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joseph_jason: yes, using root.  and having a gui dialogue prompt for root password if you launch a program that is priviledged.10:33
pramzjoseph: if you really need to work _as_ root , try sudo -s10:33
thegladiatorTTilus, so common applications will be using it ?10:33
ompaulmofomikeman, it gets easy hang there for a little while it is fast but there are over 600 people here :)10:33
thegladiatorlike say FIREFOX and the likes wud be using 108K ?10:34
thegladiatorits crashing quite often10:34
hkaisthegladiator: i have seen such an project, but it is very odd... do not know anymore the name10:34
ompaulthegladiator, random programs would be10:34
TTilusthegladiator: eventually somebody will be using it10:34
josephpramz: the benefit is that when launching a priviledged program from within a non-admin session, it would prompt for root password and I could get work done fast.10:34
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ninnghizidhaanyone tried the "radeon"-drivers before and can give me an idea about their usability?10:34
thegladiatorah . yeah I hope the same10:34
hkaisanyone else here with ati propritary driver and dual screen mode?10:34
mofomikemanso lets say my password for my user "mofomikeman" is eggs, then id logon with "sudo" and password eggs?10:34
josephpramz: but I want not only console root/admin, but also gui dialogue prompt for root/admin10:34
GoRoDeKhi, since i update ubuntu dapper today to kernel 2.6.15-11 and upgrad all new packages i experience some major performance issues. anyone knows this kind of problem?10:34
ninnghizidhahkais: i did, and it was horrible10:34
pramzjoseph: how exactly does the current way prevent you from doing that ? sudo runs the command _as_ root10:35
ninnghizidhai switched back to the ati-drivers10:35
trappistItz: it sounds like your apache config is not the way it shipped with ubuntu, or you put your directive in the wrong place.10:35
TTilusjoseph: what do you need that for?10:35
hkaisninnghizidha: have you an dualscreen setup?10:35
josephpramz: sudo is disabled unless you belong to admin group.10:35
ninnghizidhasure, hkais ...10:35
_jasonjoseph, I don't know about that.  I know that enabling root supposedly 'breaks the gui admin tools' but I don't know if that means they won't give you access at all or if they request the root password.  You can try it and if it doesn't do what you like you can disable the root account again10:35
ninnghizidhabut not xinerama10:35
mofomikemanis sudo a command or user logon?10:35
pramzjoseph: as it should be, only certain users should have sudo enabled. And the user created during install is part of the admin group10:35
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hkaisninnghizidha: is it an setup for an beamer?10:36
josephTTilus: because the session will be as a non-admin user.  I don't want to have to log-off and re-login to get access to admin stuff.  and launching from console with funny commands is tiresome.  I want dialogue prompt for root/admin password.10:36
trappistItz: it should go inside a block with <Directory />10:36
TTilusmofomikeman: its not logon10:36
kitty_can some one please help me... my audio wont work for KDE or Gnome... whats going on...10:36
mofomikemanso i logon as mofomikeman and type in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" without the quotes?10:36
thegladiatorkitty_, do a sound test10:36
TTilusjoseph: use sudo10:36
odatgnome rocks!10:36
kitty_how do i do that...10:36
mofomikemanis sudo a command or what?10:36
pramzjoseph: having every user have access to su and sudo would be security nightmare, hell on servers I have the su binary chmodded 660 so only people belonging to the wheel group or admin group can run it10:36
TTilusmofomikeman: command10:36
thegladiatorkitty_, in kde now ?10:36
_jasonubotu, tell mofomikeman about sudo10:36
kitty_yer10:37
josephpramz: I have a user without sudo enabled.  I want it that way.  But I want to be able to use a SEPARATE admin account to run programs from within that non-admin users session.10:37
tonyyarussojoseph, _jason: I have root enabled, but 95% of things ask for my password like before; one or two asked for root's.10:37
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josephpramz: if it's a nightmare why does Debian stable function this way?10:37
ninnghizidhahkais, a beamer is just like any other monitor ... just modify you xorg.conf10:37
TTilusmofomikeman: try $ whoami and then $ sudo whoami10:37
thegladiatorkitty_, K menu---> system settings ---> sound10:37
Itztrappist, block inside what?10:37
kitty_hang on10:37
TTilusmofomikeman: go ti?10:37
thegladiatorjust try a test10:37
tonyyarussomofomikeman, Yes, saying to run something as root (SuperUser DO).10:37
TTilusmofomikeman: got it?10:37
hkaisninnghizidha: could you do an test for me?10:37
mofomikeman is sudo a console command?10:37
mofomikemanwhat does it do?10:37
ninnghizidhasure, but i guess i cant help you.10:37
thegladiatorwhat sound are you talking about ? if its mp3 etc , the format is not suported default on ubuntu10:37
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hkaisninnghizidha: have you an clone mode setup?10:38
ninnghizidhano.10:38
ninnghizidhai got xinerama working.10:38
josephpramz: as it stands now, when logged in as non-admin user, I have no way of making admin configuration changes.  I have to completely log-off the user session, interrupting his work, and then log-on as admin and then make the change.....10:38
thegladiatorkitty_, tell me what are you trying to play ?10:38
TTilusmofomikeman: yes, tonyyarusso just told what it does10:38
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josephpramz:  how is that tenable?10:38
hkaisninnghizidha: what is your grafikcard?10:38
kitty_mp3, oggs everything10:38
Itztrappist,  now i changed in the config to vernus.mine.nu then it said:  NameVirtualHost vernus.mine.nu:0 has no VirtualHosts10:38
TTilusjoseph: no, you dont10:38
hkaisninnghizidha: sorry which card do you have?10:38
josephTTilus: there is another solution?10:38
ninnghizidhaati radeon 960010:38
mofomikemanit sent me a non-functional wiki link10:38
pramzjoseph: if you would tell me what type of configuration changes require you to logout and not use sudo that would help10:38
odatkitty_, kde is your problem    ooops sorry couldn't resist10:39
TTilusjoseph: tell me what is the admin thing you want to do?10:39
rseeberhmmm, how do i get mp3's to work?10:39
hkaisninnghizidha: could you post me the xorg.conf?10:39
TTilusjoseph: installing packages?10:39
josephpramz: just about everythin in the System ---> Administration menu10:39
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kitty_it doesnt work in Gnome either10:39
ninnghizidhawait a second.10:39
tonyyarussojoseph, Applications > System > New Login allows you to login another user without breaking the first's session.10:39
thegladiatorodat, no flame wars or distro wars please thank ou10:39
thegladiatoryou*10:39
odatthegladiator, k sorry10:39
pramzjoseph: thats funny, I can do all that without logging out of the system10:39
Sansuwassup freaks and geeks10:39
josephtonyyarusso: I don't have an "Applications --> System" menu.10:39
thegladiatorkitty_, tell me whats the app you are trying first ?10:39
pramzjoseph: so unless your configuration is messed up I dont see why you would have to log off10:40
mofomikemanHELP10:40
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mofomikemanwhat is sudo10:40
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josephpramz: how do you do it without logging out of the system?  (assuming you are logged in as user that does not belong to admin group).10:40
mofomikemantell mofomikeman about sudo10:40
thegladiator!sudo10:40
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.10:40
kitty_i've got loads of different ones mainly amarok10:40
mofomikeman!sudo10:40
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_jasonmofomikeman, read the link ubotu sent you10:40
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mofomikemanTHAT LINK DOESNT WORK10:40
wngI just changed the DNS on a domain, and the changes arent showing up on my laptop running Ubuntu 5.10, On my WinXP box I did "ipconfig /flushdns" to flush the DNS cache, and the changes are appearing, is there any way to do this on Ubuntu?10:40
thegladiatoryeah10:40
mofomikeman40410:40
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pramzjoseph: I am in the admin group , administration tasks should be performed by the person in the admin group. Hence the reason there is an admin group10:40
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mofomikemann00b10:40
TTilusjoseph: hum, you don have it?  maybe theres something weird with your conf10:40
ninnghizidhahkais, look at http://pastebin.com/49985010:40
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mofomikemanthat link 404's10:41
_jasonmofomikeman, make it https instead of http10:41
odatkitty_, and what is the main audio driver your using   OSS, alsa, esd ???10:41
josephpramz: but I want to have non-admin users logged on....these computers are for children students.10:41
tonyyarussojoseph, That's a Gnome thing, not sure what you're using.  Might have something similar though, if you look around for new login.10:41
pramzjoseph: if the person is not in the admin group, you can start a seperate X login to login under your credentials and run the command yourself10:41
kitty_i dont know10:41
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hkaisninnghizidha: thx i will try your setup10:41
odatkitty_, oh thats right kde i'm not sure how to check it in kde10:41
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sharn8ok i need some help10:41
odatsorry10:41
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ninnghizidhagood luck.10:41
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mofomikemanwow, jason, thanks, that did absolutley DICK10:41
_jasonmofomikeman, actually wiki seems to be down at the moment10:41
kitty_i can go back to gnome if its easier10:42
_jasonmofomikeman, watch your language10:42
josephpramz: I shouldn't have to create a separate X session or use the "New Login" command, just to get access to admin permissions!10:42
mofomikeman...sorry10:42
mofomikemanok well can you PM me about sudo?10:42
sharn8i installed ubuntu on hda2 with windows me on hda1 and when i dome to the boot screen it says error 1710:42
josephpramz: I should be able to just launch the program, and have a dialogue box come up and ask me for admin password10:42
odatkitty_, you don't have to i am biased but i can't help with kde10:42
thick-glassesI need some partition resizing help10:42
_jasonmofomikeman, it means SuperUser DO, and basically lets you do stuff that requires root privileges.  The wiki should be back up soon and you can read more about it10:42
kitty_i'll be back in a sec10:42
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sharn8come*|10:43
mofomikemani dont know anything about linux10:43
pramzjoseph: this might help you: http://xsu.sourceforge.net/10:43
sharn8can someone help me?10:43
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TTilusjoseph: or you could do the same with console, ssh -X adminuser@localhost10:43
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mofomikemanthat is why i came to ubuntu10:43
TTilusjoseph: then do your thing10:43
Itztrappist, so it seems that it might be a problem with it not recognizing where my virtual host is? though i havent configured any?10:43
sharn8i guess i need help reinstalling grub bootloader10:43
thick-glassesI'm deleting my windows ntfs part, is there a way to resize my ubuntu root part to use that space?10:43
wngIs there  any way to flush the DNS cache on Ubuntu 5.10?10:43
josephTTilus:  shouldn't have to ssh -X it's too complicated10:43
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odatmofomikeman, what are you trying to do?10:43
mofomikemanfix my gui10:43
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misiehmofomikeman: did you install ubuntu without problems?10:44
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BradMlumps10:44
TTilusjoseph: sorry, cant make it less complicated10:44
pramzhi mofomikeman10:44
mofomikemani installed it without problems10:44
odatmofomikeman, how so?10:44
sharn8hello?10:44
mofomikemanbut it says some stupid error about your gui x something or other couldnt load10:44
BlackenSo nobody's familiar with VMware and Ubuntu?10:44
sharn8can someone help me reinsall grub bootloader?10:44
josephpramz: that program requires access to su and the root account, which is NOT AVAILABLE to me on ubuntu.10:44
tonyyarussojoseph, What breadth of things are we classifying as too complicated?  I checked out ssh for the first time over break, and it didn't seem too bad.10:44
TTilusjoseph: tried to enable root acoount?10:44
misiehthen just use sudo <your command>. should work10:44
Itztrappist,  hmm i try to get help irl. hard to sort this problem out it seems like :/10:45
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thick-glassesBlacken: yes, I installed it10:45
misiehtry sudo -v10:45
kitty_im back in gnome now10:45
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pramzjoseph: you CAN set a password for root10:45
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pramzjoseph: under your account10:45
odatmofomikeman, reconfigure your xserver  the command is     sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:45
pramzthe admin account that is10:45
misiehto check if you have the permissions10:45
pramzsudo passwd root10:45
pramzand voila10:45
pramzyou have su and root access10:45
thick-glassesBlacken: what are you trying to do?10:45
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josephtonyyarusso: I don't want ssh just to get access to root priviledge from a non-admin session....10:45
odatkitty_, find the multimedia system selector in your preferences10:45
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sharn8hello i need some help10:46
kitty_what do i do with it..10:46
josephpramz: I can get access to root?  then when I launch a program from non-admin session, will a dialogue come up and ask for root password?10:46
josephpramz: no because ubuntu is hardcoded for the sudo thingy10:46
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meepyHow do I change the language in GNOME?10:46
sharn8knock knock10:47
kitty_i tested them... nothing...10:47
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weedarwho's there?10:47
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tonyyarussojoseph, You will be able to su in a command line and do whatever you want from there.10:47
mysticyxDoes10:47
mysticyxhi?10:47
sharn8omg i need some help10:47
Setit seems I got 4.1010:47
Setis that new?10:47
dieffelhi! What kind of Web-editor do you recommend for Ubuntu/GNOME?10:47
Blackengedit.10:47
odatkitty_, what happens when you go to sound and video then volume control?10:47
pramzjoseph: at this point I dont believe you are looking for a solution to your issue but just arguing for the sake of argument (which isnt bad, just an observation).10:47
_jasondieffel, I ehar good things about nvu10:47
sharn8i have a big problem10:47
trappistjoseph: configured, not hardcoded.  you can enable the root account by setting his password.  for most purposes it's not recommended, but it might not be a bad solution for you.10:47
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ninnghizidhawanna have a wysiwyg-editor o r just aplain-text-editor?10:47
odatdieffel, nvu10:47
_jasonubotu, tell sharn8 about enter10:47
TTilusjoseph: could sudo-chaining help?10:48
dieffel_jason, ok... how about Bluefish???10:48
pramzjoseph: id the issue was administration you _could_ open a shell and su to root and run it under there10:48
mysticyxDoes anyone know how to change the logg in pasword in ubunto hhh?10:48
blue-frogjoseph, from non-admin session u su to your admin user then you sudo10:48
_jasondieffel, I hear good things about that too10:48
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mysticyxand if yes10:48
kitty_a panel comes up10:48
hkaisninnghizidha: i will try my restart10:48
odatdieffel, NVU10:48
mysticyxplease answer me :)10:48
tonyyarussoDo anyone know / have a link for how to create metapackages?10:48
josephblue-frog: which requires dropping a console.  I want to click on menu item and have gui dialogue prompting for admin password10:48
sharn8when i start my pc up it starts grub then says error 17 and just stops10:48
trappistmysticyx: run 'passwd' in a console10:48
TTilusjoseph: set everybody to be able to sudo to user Z and Z to root privileges and you only know "root" password for Z10:48
TTilusjoseph: then sudo -u Z sudo yourthing10:49
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meepyNobody know how to change language in GNOME? :/10:49
TTilusjoseph: (just a wild guess)10:49
blue-frogjoseph, gksu10:49
Blackenmeepy: Google is your friend.10:49
josephblue-frog: gksu requires console command?10:49
sharn8i got help yesterday why cant i today?10:49
josephblue-frog: what is gksu?10:49
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Blackensharn8: Google the damn thing. "grub error 17".10:49
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TTilusjoseph: and of course you can wrap that chaining inside one command10:50
sharn8good i dea10:50
Blackensharn8: I just did and I got a very good answer from the top of the list.10:50
odatBlacken, here here10:50
sharn8ok illlook10:50
odatkitty_, ?10:50
TTilusjoseph: its just another su10:50
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blue-frogjoseph, the thing you want..10:50
tonyyarussomeepy, System > Administration > Language Selector.10:50
josephblue-frog: how is gksu different from su?10:50
pramzjoseph: http://www.nongnu.org/gksu/10:50
erUSULi need to get a newer version of wireless-tools than the one shipped with breezy. i have googled to no avail. anyone knows how or whre to get it?10:50
kitty_the settings are all on... but it still doesnt work...10:50
TTilusjoseph: graphical10:50
blue-frogjoseph, man gksu10:50
_jasonjoseph, you may be able to edit the shortcut and add the '--user YOUR_ADMIN_USERNAME' switch.  Haven't tried this though10:51
TTilusjoseph: in your case, its no different10:51
gregok i'm having some problems i'm tring  to install the vmtools but it says i need to be on as su well I am lol but it keeps tellin me i'm not...10:51
tonyyarussoerUSUL, apt-get upgrade will always keep you with the newest versions of things.10:51
josephblue-frog: but why would I want to gksu instead of regular su?10:51
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TTilusjoseph: i tell you, its no better than regular su in your case10:52
thierry_is wiki.ubuntu.com down?10:52
bakkkI am getting a configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH when I try to ./configure FCGI10:52
blue-frogjoseph, you are the one bitching about icon and not terminal, you tell me..10:52
TTilusjoseph: if i have understood you situation10:52
bakkkwhere is cc supposed to be?10:52
josephTTilus: gksu just switches user like su?  or does it require a command like gksu synaptic admin10:52
TTilusjoseph: how do you like that sudo-chain?10:52
blue-frogjoseph, man gksu10:52
tonyyarussobakkk: Do you have gcc installed?10:53
pramzTTilus: its not about the situation, its about the behavior, there is no right answer we can give him. At this point its his best interest to ask a developer rather than people in the irc channel10:53
TTilusjoseph: switches user10:53
odatkitty_, any idea what kind of audio chip?10:53
bakkktonyyarusso, I do10:53
pramzblue-frog , TTilus : its not about the situation, its about the behavior, there is no right answer we can give him. At this point its his best interest to ask a developer rather than people in the irc channel10:53
TTilusjoseph: asks pw on a gui prompt10:53
timfrostgreg, is this a ubuntu install in a VMWare virtual machine?10:53
tonyyarussobakkk, What about the rest of build-essential?10:53
yggdrasil_selinium10:53
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josephTTilus: oh, I don't care about that then.  as long as I'm on console anyway...10:53
yggdrasil_selinium you still around ?10:53
seliniumyggdrasil, yep!10:54
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blue-frogjoseph, so joseph explain to me with a simple example what you want to achieve..10:54
yggdrasil_i was just wondering if you had any sort of interface with the px00 and linux ?10:54
pozdiy there are few other users on the system I am logged into, how can I (nonprivileged user) get to know name of my group and names of groups other users belong to?10:54
bakkktonyyarusso, the cd started to spin and ubuntu took my desktop =)10:54
TTiluspramz: i think sudo-chain would do the thing, but asking devels would definitely be the best option since the situation he is in, is quite common in say public libraries and schools10:54
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kitty_we've had it working before but it only played oggs that had been ripped off cds... we had to reinstall it and now sound doesnt work.10:54
blue-frogpozdiy, id user10:54
seliniumyggdrasil, I have been trying to get mine to work, but no. there is a site where someone has done it... One Moment...10:54
josephblue-frog: have a non-admin user logged in.  walk-up to this session and click on the menu and run a program that requires admin priviledges, and have a gui dialogue prompt me for my admin password.10:55
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pozdiyblue-frog, tnx!10:55
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TTilusjoseph: would sudo-chain do that?10:55
blue-frogjoseph, by admin privileges you mean root privileges?10:55
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pramzTTilus: yea, thats what I thought as well.10:55
Eugmancan I get internet explorer using wine?10:56
TTilusjoseph: sudo -u fakeroot gksudo adminapp10:56
josephblue-frog: maybe root yes, or maybe just an admin-enabled user.10:56
tonyyarussobakkk, So you don't know?  Okay, Applications > Accessories > Terminal, then sudo apt-get install build-essential, Enter, give it your password, and let it go.10:56
pramzEugman: any reason you need IE on a LInux machine ?10:56
hkaisninnghizidha: no success...10:56
Eugmanto use a certian website type thing10:56
TTiluspramz: i dont really know if its nice solution and does it have possible caveats, but still it could work10:56
pramzjoseph: your best bet at this point is to pose the question to the developers on the mailing lists10:57
josephblue-frog: do I make sense?10:57
trappistEugman: I don't know if ye olde wine will do it, but crossover office will (www.codeweavers.com)10:57
EugmanYou must use Internet Explorer to print your certificates.10:57
seliniumyggdrasil, http://www.alfonsomartone.itb.it/bauodg.html       http://www.sbellon.de/p900.html     Take a look at these10:57
gnomefreakEugman, FF will bring up IE pages10:57
mike-eanyone recommend any peer to peer software for my music pirating needs10:57
tonyyarussoEugman, Which one?  The only thing I know of the NEEDS it is Windows Update.10:57
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pramzjoseph: since they can provide you with a reason why it isnt set up that way10:57
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BlackenWoah--segfaults everywhere from the Ubuntu installer under VMware 4.10:57
pramzjoseph: and if there is any possible way to implement that in the future releases10:57
yggdrasil_k let me see whats up10:57
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blue-frogjoseph, am sry i don't see the point. in any case you are not going to provide them with your admin password. so you will have to be in front of the screen or by ssh and you will type the password you need to type10:57
EugmanI need to print out something and it needs internet explorer ro be read10:57
mike-eanyone recommend any peer to peer software for my music pirating needs10:57
TTilusjoseph: tell them you were told to do sudo chaining and ask if its "the right thing" to do or not10:57
bakkktonyyarusso, thanks a lot, I was reading about it10:57
blue-frogjoseph, meaning you will do yourself the su admin  in a terminal then sudo10:58
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Kyral!pastebin10:58
ubotuI heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:58
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josephblue-frog: this is the way it works in debian stable, as well as other distributions.  when logged in as regular user, and attempt to access program requiring root priviledge, a dialogue comes up asking for that password.10:58
tonyyarussoEugman, I'm doubting that claim that it needs IE to be read.  What's the URL, so people can check it out?10:58
mike-ewhat's a pastebin?10:58
Eugmanit's in an email10:58
tonyyarusso!tell mike-e about pastebin10:58
josephblue-frog: so it's hard for me to believe that you "dont' see the point", since this is the way it works in countless other distributions.10:58
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Steve^hello people. Is ubuntu mainly gnome?10:58
GhostFreemanHow can I configure the way GTK/Gnome displays fonts from Xfce?10:58
pramzEugman: what exactly do you need IE to print out ?10:59
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blue-frogjoseph, then include them in the sudoers10:59
ompauljoseph, and blue-frog this is a rather busy channel can you take the conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic where you will be welcome10:59
josephblue-frog: yes that su admin sudo thing requires console access.  what about clicking on menu item and running program?10:59
trappistSteve^: ubuntu uses gnome out of the box.  you can get kubuntu, or install kubuntu-desktop, to use kde.10:59
LasseLSteve^, yes, but there is Kubuntu too10:59
yggdrasil_mmm10:59
tonyyarussoSteve^, By default, yes.  You can get Kubuntu to have it with KDE, Xubuntu for xfce, and can download any wm of your choice if you'd rather use those.10:59
yggdrasil_blue toot hsucks10:59
blue-frogompaul, offtopic?10:59
josephblue-frog: can't add them to sudoers, they are student children users...'10:59
gnomefreakxubuntu is nice too :)10:59
jatoshi10:59
odatkitty_, i would find out what type of audio chip is in there to track down the problem better10:59
Steve^that sounds very complicated. Installing Gnome on my KDE Suse 10 didn't go well10:59
kitty_how do i do that?11:00
ompaulblue-frog, don't worry about the channel name it is for all sorts of discussions11:00
TTilusjoseph: afaik the major reason for root to be disabled is that adminn access should be administrable without "changing the locks" everytime admin leaves the house and a new one is hired11:00
Steve^I guess I'll try gnome and I can always start again11:00
trappistSteve^: I've done it a zillion times.  works flawlessly.11:00
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gnomefreakSteve^, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop is eassy11:00
ompaulblue-frog, including on topic ones :)-11:00
Steve^gnomefreak: but what happens to the gnome bits?11:00
blue-frogjoseph, then you are in charge, they only run unpriviledge apps11:00
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jmhodgesin a block, if i want to pass on an item in the array, do i just check if its nil and if so toss in 'next'11:00
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jmhodgesi seem to be experiencing problems with that11:00
gnomefreakSteve^, nothing they stay there and work :)11:00
odatSteve^, just install regular ol ubuntu and be done with it  :)11:01
jmhodgeswhoopos, wrong chat11:01
bakkktonyyarusso, its working! thanks again, I will spend some time on docs next week end11:01
TTilusjoseph: have you tried if the sudo-chain does what you need?11:01
josephblue-frog: yes, but I may need to walk-up to their session and run admin programs, in order to configure something-or-the-other.11:01
gnomefreakon the log-in screen you can choose what desktop you want to use Steve^11:01
Steve^triple booting is a reasonable thing to do?11:01
tonyyarussoSteve^, You don't need to start again if you don't like Gnome.  Just add something else, and choose it from the Sessions menu.11:01
tonyyarussobakkk, Good stuff.11:01
Steve^ok, you guys are being too helpful11:01
josephTTilus: I'm happy with su and then sudo :)11:01
Steve^it's not normal11:01
gnomefreaki am what i call normal11:01
gnomefreaki think11:01
tonyyarussoSteve^, Meh, I don't mind being a little abnormal now and then.11:02
gnomefreaksteve i have 4 desktops for ubuntu11:02
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tonyyarussognomefreak, Which four?11:02
gnomefreakgnome kde xfce and enlightemnet and blackbox make that 511:02
Steve^I was just browsing over my magazine and it said something about HDDs having up to 4 primary partitions. I presume XP and Suse only use 2 of those and I can install ubuntu with no problems11:03
gnomefreaksomething like that lol11:03
dribblehey all - just decided to give ubuntu a shot, however, upon finishing the install it seems the gstreamer libraries are borked.  totem can't play mpegs, rythmbox reports "unexpected end of stream" for all radio stations, yet the relevent gstreamer libs ARE installed.  i'm at somewhat of a loss.  any ubuntu gurus wanna lend a hand?11:03
odatgnomefreak, ever use ede?11:03
gnomefreaksuse i think uses 2 partions windows 1 and ubuntu 211:03
gnomefreakodat, no11:03
BlackenYou can make logical partitions for, say, swaps.11:04
BlackenAnd if you have enough RAM (512+), you probably don't need a swap.11:04
gnomefreakubotu tell dribble about restricted11:04
odatgnomefreak, looks great for older hardware,  i personally don't see a giant difference between xfce and gnome   at least no enough to warrant the lack of features11:04
Blackenodat: Take a gander at Fluxbox?11:04
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wngIs there an easy way to clear the DNS cache in Ubuntu?11:05
odatBlacken, i like destkop icons and not desktop icons made with little hacks lol11:05
kitty_how do i find out what audio chip im using11:05
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gnomefreak<<can live without icons11:05
ninnghizidhahkais, "no sucees" at what? :-D11:05
tonyyarussoSteve^, Definitely.  I have 4 primaries and 5 logical right now.11:05
gnomefreakbrb11:05
dribblegnomefreak, i'll check the link.  thanks.11:05
Steve^well, no coursework for a while, so if things go bad, I won't be too screwed11:06
odatgnomefreak, yes but i set a lot of these linux systems up for people that aren't computer savvy in any way possible so desktop icons are a must11:06
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Steve^I guess KDE programs won't run in gnome very well?11:08
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gnomefreakSteve^, they run fine in gnome11:09
trappistthey'll run, but they'll start a good chunk of kde11:09
odatSteve^, i'm trying not to say anything11:09
Steve^odat: you are failing :P11:09
gnomefreaklol11:09
odatlol11:09
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Steve^I just use Kontact quite alot and would need a nice replacement11:09
cafuegoSteve^: They run just as well in Gnome as they do in KDE.11:09
NightwishFreakanyone using PPC?11:09
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tonyyarussoSteve^, Sometimes it depends on the program.  They're designed to run best in KDE, but I've run a few in Gnome and they were just fine.11:09
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cafuegoNightwishFreak: Yes.11:10
dribblegnomefreak, the link ain't wharkin'11:10
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_jasonthe wiki is currently down (for me at least)11:11
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kitty_can some one tell me how to find what audio chip im using11:11
alexissofthi11:11
NightwishFreakcafuego, right on, i just installed breezy on my powerbook.11:11
tonyyarussoTrying to make sure I've covered the bases for non-defaults: Flash, w32, Java, what else?11:11
cafuegokitty_: 'lspci' should tell you.11:11
gnomefreakdribble, if you add one of Seveas repositories in your sources.list file than most of your multimedia needs are in synaptic11:11
ompaul_jason, it is up11:11
odatkitty_, i think lspci should do it11:11
gnomefreakubotu tell dribble about Seveas11:11
odatcafuego, son of a11:11
odatlol11:11
yggdrasil_selinium i wish we could install lin on this phone :(11:11
yggdrasil_that woudl rock11:12
yggdrasil_might eve roxor11:12
seliniumindeed!11:12
cafuegoNightwishFreak: B&W G3 here and a Mac Mini.11:12
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yggdrasil_gay symbian11:12
cafuegoWaiting for decent wifi support before the iBook gets it too.11:12
yggdrasil_its so lame11:12
BlackenGawd...anyone know if there's a better installer in the pipe?11:12
cafuegoBlacken: By better I assume you mean "with buttons and mouse support" ?11:13
tonyyarussoI actually kind of liked the simplicity of the installer, but maybe that's just me.11:13
seliniumyggdrasil,  But i am still earning my Geek point with SSH and IRC through the old P900 :)  Only pressure from users will get the manufacturers to release linux compatible stuff....11:13
kitty_in using creative labs SB live audio chip... how do i get it working11:13
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Blackencafuego: Bingo. This one has trouble in VMware, as does RedHat's text installer; oddly enough, RHL's GUI installer does not.11:13
NightwishFreakcafuego: wi-fi?11:13
cafuegokitty_: 'sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1'11:13
Ophiocusyeah i want a computer with a gui that consist of one big red button that says "do my work for me"11:14
B|4ckm0r3please someone help me!!!Nvidia drivers are killing me...they don't work at all!this is my xorg.log http://pastebin.com/499844 it doesn't have any EE line but X crashes and the screen goes black!11:14
cafuegoBlacken: The curses installs work fine in vmware for me.11:14
Blackencafuego: Well, the install has borked five times in a row, so maybe it's my VMware, but hey.11:14
cafuegoBlacken: I think that could be said to be a vmware issue anyway, not an installer one.11:14
kitty_it didnt do anything11:14
Blackencafuego: Sure, it's a VMware issue--but a GUI install is still nice.11:14
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cafuegokitty_: good, that means the driver loaded :-)11:14
Blackencafuego: Any idea why 5.10 might be giving me "cannot install /target/"11:15
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Blackenerrors on VMware?11:15
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kitty_how come im experiencing no audio playback11:15
cafuegokitty_: Now have a look in System -> Preferences -> Sound11:15
cafuegokitty_: Is the SBLive selected there?11:16
Lord_Athurhi, i've installed the ubuntu server... can I change the color of the virtual terminals (tty)? from black to blue :P11:16
kitty_yeah11:16
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cafuegokitty_: Ok, make sure the sound volume is set to non-zero11:16
LiNoHhow can i put a trash icon in the gnome desktop?11:16
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kitty_done11:16
cafuegokitty_: Sound yet?11:16
sharn8uhg this is driving me nuts11:16
Lord_Athurhey all , i've installed the ubuntu server... can I change the color of the virtual terminals (tty)? from black to blue :P11:17
kitty_hang on11:17
_willcooke_sharn8, steering wheel in your underpants?11:17
blue-frogLiNoH, applications>system tools> gconf editor >nautilus > desktop11:17
cafuegoLiNoH: sudo apt-get install gtweakui; System -> Preferences -> gtweakui - Nautilus.11:17
sharn8pretty close yeah11:17
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kitty_nope... not working11:18
odatkitty_, go back to that multimedia selector and select alsa for output and then restart your computer and if that doens't work select the next one and restart and so on11:18
sharn8i cant a bootloader to work11:18
LiNoHhow can i put a trash icon in the gnome desktop?11:18
cafuegoodat: THis isn't #windows, you know.11:18
blue-frogLiNoH, applications>system tools> conf editor >nautilus > desktop11:18
cafuegoodat: We don't restart computers willy-nilly.11:18
LiNoHblue-frog: thanks11:18
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uFo-Zhi all. i have a question. i use mingw32 for cross compiling some source. sdl is working. now, is there something i could use to install dev files to my normal include and also to my crosscompile include/lib directories ?11:19
B|4ckm0r3please someone help me!!!Nvidia drivers are killing me...they don't work at all!this is my xorg.log http://pastebin.com/499844 it doesn't have any EE line but X crashes and the screen goes black!anyone?11:19
sharn8can someone walkthrough on installing lilo or sometihng?11:19
blue-frogLiNoH, apps before nautilus11:19
odatcafuego, i'm telling her that from experience the audio setting don't take affect until a restart11:19
odatthat simple11:19
woodgrainhey, how can I make icons?11:19
cafuegoodat: Unload module, load module.11:19
Profichillanormally, they do without any restarting.11:19
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cafuegoodat: That said, the alsa sblive mopdule is automagically loaded anyway.11:19
LiNoHblue-frog: thanks!! :] 11:19
sharn8when i start my pc up i get error 1711:20
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sharn8and it wont do anyhing11:20
ompaulB|4ckm0r3, what does >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<< do for you?11:20
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odatcafuego, so what i have an alsa module loaded upstairs but only the oss output selection produces sound not the alsa setting11:20
B|4ckm0r3ompaul:  it does reconfigure xorg ompaul :D i've tried once...but nothing useful...11:20
odatupstairs= other computer11:20
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Blackencafuego: ...the installer keeps locking at "Verifying zlib1g" on VMware 4. Have you ever encountered/heard of this sort of problem?11:21
B|4ckm0r3ompaul:  i've tried bot apt driver and nvidia official drivers (8178)11:21
B|4ckm0r3they install correctly11:21
cafuegoodat: Then the system is using oss-on-alsa emulation. No restarts are required to switch those.11:21
B|4ckm0r3but when x starts everything goes black and i've to reboot (i can't switch to console...)11:22
cafuegoBlacken: Did you burn the install cd yourself?11:22
ompaulB|4ckm0r3, there are two sets of offical nvidia drivers depending on chip of the card11:22
Blackencafuego: Neg, these are ordered CDs.11:22
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vincenzHello11:22
BlackenI've never used Ubuntu before. My school had a box, I swiped one.11:22
odatcafuego, then why does it work with esd but not alsa?11:22
cafuegoBlacken: .. coz it sounds like a corruption. Can you check the md5sum of the one you're using?11:22
cafuegoodat: karma?11:22
vincenzI'm about to install ubuntu as dualboot on my laptop, any suggestiosn11:22
odatcafuego, right11:22
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Blackencafeugo: Lemme see if I remember how to do that...11:22
B|4ckm0r3ompaul:  i've a geforce 2 mx400 i've read that the standard drivers are ok for me!11:22
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cafuegoBlacken: There should be an option in the advanced install menu on the cd.11:23
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Blackencafuego: Ah, there is something. Thanks.11:23
dribblemm, apt-get is nice11:23
ompaulB|4ckm0r3, I don't know if I read it on the ubuntu page or the nvidia site, I presume that you have read the output of !nvidia ?11:23
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BlackenIt seems to check it automagically.11:23
BlackenThis is really, really pissing me off, though. I'm tempted to go get DSL and just build my own distro.11:24
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cafuegoBlacken: Not the CD, it verifies the packages though... then it might break if one fails.11:24
dribblehaving a crisis of gentoo loyalty11:24
cafuegoBlacken: It's not impossible that you swiped a dud ;-)11:24
B|4ckm0r3ompaul:  !nvidia is just a call to nvidia-xconfig11:24
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vincenz...11:24
Blackencafuego: I'm sure, but I'm a Windows user who dabbles in Linux.  I want the damned thing to Just Work.11:24
sharn8same as above11:25
Blackencafuego: If I could get the Christing thing working right, I'd just install DSL.11:25
dribblecafuego, haha - went debian->gentoo.  just installed ubuntu on an old PIII i found lyin' around.  And I like what i see!11:25
BlackenOr if I had a spare box around.11:25
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ompaulB|4ckm0r3, are we at cross purposes have a look at the message from the bot11:25
cafuegoBlacken: I'm sure 99 out of 100 cds do "just work" :-)  Just swipe another one, it's what they're for.11:25
gfxstylerhi11:25
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cafuegodribble: That's exactly what I mean.11:25
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vincenzAny hints for me before I try to install ubuntu dualboot on my laptop11:26
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bluefoxicycafuego:  dude, do we have to tweak out our ubuntus?11:26
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cafuegovincenz: got wifi?11:26
studentis it correct that firefox is version 1.0.7?11:26
vincenzcafuego: yeah11:26
tonyyarussovincenz, Yeah, see !dualboot11:26
studenthow do I update firefox?11:26
vincenz!dualboot11:26
ubotufrom memory, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo11:26
cafuegovincenz: what chip?11:26
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vincenzcafuego: it's a latitude dell d61011:26
cafuegostudent: 1.0.7 is currect, yes.11:26
gfxstyleris there a special reason why when i install the newest ati drivers (8.20.8) from the ati homepage a ati 8.16.20 module gets build on a fresh ubuntu install? so without fglrx installed ever before11:26
staticsage1.5 is current...?11:27
tonyyarussovincenz, And google linux on laptops, and look around on some of those sites to see if anyone has tried it on your model.11:27
cafuegovincenz: Ah ok, just pcmcia then? Should all just work.11:27
studentcafuego: when will there be an update in breezy?11:27
vincenzcafuego: iti ain't pcmia11:27
cafuegostudent: Never :-)11:27
vincenztonyyarusso: they have11:27
tonyyarusso!tell student about firefox1511:27
vincenzcan I resize my NTFS11:27
vincenz?11:27
studentcafuego: seriously never?11:27
tonyyarussovincenz, Yep.11:27
cafuegovincenz: Yes11:27
vincenzsafely?11:27
tonyyarussovincenz, Were they successful?11:27
vincenztonyyarusso: yes11:27
Blackenvincenz: Yes. Defrag first to be safe, however.11:27
cafuegostudent: indeed. it's a stable release, so only gets ecurity fixes, no major upgrades.11:27
tonyyarussovincenz, Yes, I've done it on two.11:27
vincenzBlacken: did that ;)11:27
vincenzok11:28
vincenzwell11:28
Blackenvincenz: Then you should be fine.11:28
studentcafuego: oh man, I'm dissapointed.11:28
Stormx2Whats wrong with 1.5?11:28
vincenzok11:28
vincenztime to try :)11:28
cafuegostudent: What is wrong with 1.0.7?11:28
B|4ckm0r3ompaul:  i've read them all!i've tried everything...i don't know what to do!11:28
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studentcafuego: it's .43 less than 1.5?11:28
studentcafuego: just kidding11:28
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BlackenOf course, the suspected broken package is at the end of the alphabet...11:28
cafuego!tell student -about ff1.511:28
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cafuegostudent: Check the link ubotu gave you, it has a howto for getting 1.5 on breezy safely.11:29
vincenzwhat do you reccomend as partition sizes on 80gb11:29
vincenzand that site of !dualboot won't work11:29
studentcafuego: okay I am checking it now thanks11:29
tonyyarussostudent, Which I actually just did again; it's not too bad.11:29
sharn8can i make a boot floppy from my live cd for my normal ubuntu?11:29
mhey11:29
mcan anyone help me with a wlan problem?11:29
cafuegovincenz: 5gb absolute minimum for Ubuntu. I suggest 5Gb for / and 10GB (or more) for /home.11:29
vincenz5gb is enough??11:30
studenttonyyarusso: you did what again and it's not too bad?11:30
sharn8can i make a boot cd for my normal ubuntu in my live?11:30
staticsagei'm looking to install bnc on ubuntu, i can't find a package using apt-get and i can't find too much documentation11:30
cafuegovincenz: The base is 2GB.11:30
vincenzah11:30
mim using a dlink dwl-g650+11:30
gfxstylerwhy 5gb? my ubuntu used to use only 2gb11:30
cafuegovincenz: (and that includes Office)11:30
sharn8ugh11:30
sharn8fdgjfdgjs11:30
sharn8fd11:30
sharn8f11:30
psusiit's good to have some free space11:30
tonyyarussostudent, Get ff1.511:30
ompaulB|4ckm0r3, I can't remember what to do with nvidia (don't have one myself), but perhaps start again, as it is a standard set of commands - so unless you card is documented as not working which I doubt it will just be slow about it11:30
cafuegogfxstyler: Space for more kernels and additional software.11:30
mwich driver do i have to use for wpa supplicant?11:30
studenttonyyarusso: and it's better?11:30
vincenz20gb ntfs, 1 gb swap, 5gb /, 10gb /home ... still leaves me with space11:30
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erUSULi need to get a newer version of wireless-tools than the one shipped with breezy. i have googled to no avail. anyone knows how or whre to get it?11:30
robbtcan anyone tell me why the mod_mime module isn't included anywhere in apache2 ?11:31
cafuegovincenz: Just make /home however much you have left.11:31
BlackenerUSUL: Did you check synaptic?11:31
vincenzhow about a fat3211:31
vincenzfor sharing11:31
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Blackenvincenz: Got a flash-drive?11:31
psusiis there a reason you are going for a seperate /home?11:31
tonyyarussostudent, In some respects.  If 1.07 was doing it for you, then you probably don't need to, but it seems a little bit faster, and has some cool new extensions, which I am WAY too amused by.11:31
cafuegovincenz: You can make XP read and write ext3.11:31
vincenzcafuego: you can?11:31
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vincenzI meant for my music11:31
Blackencafuego: You can? Stably?11:31
cafuegovincenz: Yep11:31
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tonyyarussoerUSUL, What's apt-cache policy wireless-tools tell you right now?11:31
gfxstylerworks for me too (ext3 on windows)11:31
cafuegoBlacken: Never failed for me sofar. ext2fsd.sf.net11:31
vincenzcafuego: I thought only ext2fs11:31
studentcafuego is a debian guru11:31
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cafuegostudent: you'11:32
tonyyarussovincenz, I have a fat for sharing, I think I made it about 5G.11:32
cafuegore too kind11:32
psusiext3 IS ext2... just with a journal... ignore the journal and you can use it as ext2 just fine11:32
dtsI just installed the newest Ubuntu and it's taking a lot longer to boot on my machine (1 ghz, 500 mb ram) than it used to, has there been any major changes that could make the boot process significantly longer?11:32
vincenzput swap as last partition?11:32
psusijust will require a full fsck and might clobber som data if the system crashes or power fails while accessing it11:32
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cafuegovincenz: Put it wherever you like :-)11:32
tonyyarussopsusi, What exactly does the journal bit mean anyway?  Never really understood that.11:32
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brian_someone11:33
gfxstyleris there a special reason why when i install the newest ati drivers (8.20.8) from the ati homepage a ati 8.16.20 module gets build on a fresh ubuntu install?11:33
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vincenzhow about: [20gb ntfs] [5 gb /] [20gb /home] [20gb fat32] [1gb swap] 11:33
Lord_Athurhey all , i've installed the ubuntu server... can I change the color of the virtual terminals (tty)? from black to blue :P11:33
cafuegotonyyarusso: The journal is a bit like a log of changes made to the filesystem. Any changes get added to the journal, then written to disk and removed from the journal.11:33
psusitonyyarusso: it's a scratch place for the kernel to make note about important changes it is about to make, so that if it doesn't get to finish making those changes, it knows about it when it boots up again adn can either finish the changes, or undo them... so the change either gets all done, or not done at all11:33
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cafuegotonyyarusso: if you crash, all that needs to happen is a journal replay, so any pending changes get processed.11:33
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vincenzwish me luck11:34
tonyyarussoLord_Athur, I believe it is indeed possible, but don't know how myself.11:34
tonyyarussovincenz, Good luck!11:34
vincenzI'll remain logged in here, cause it's an ssh -> screen on desktop11:34
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tonyyarussocafuego, psusi: Wow.  This thing is smart, that's a really cool idea.11:34
sharncan someone help me get to the spot where i edit where grub loads from?11:35
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tonyyarussosharn, You mean editing its menu options?  sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst11:35
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rseeberhello11:36
gfxstylerhi11:36
psusitonyyarusso: the net result is certain operations are slowed down a bit ( because more data has to be written to the disk, once to the journal, and once to the real location ) but if the system crashes, you don't end up with a damaged filesystem11:36
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sharnty ill see11:36
psusiand don't have to wait an hour for fsck to try and repair it on the next boot11:36
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dooglusLord_Athur: "setterm -background blue"11:36
tonyyarussopsusi, Sounds like a worthwhile sacrifice to me.11:37
rseeberi have a ntfs partition that i'd like to be able to use, i have it mounted at /media/cdrive but i can't access it, it says it's read only and i can't change any privledges11:37
sharnit opened gedit but there is othing there11:37
tonyyarussodooglus, It's that easy?11:37
lightbrightwhenever I get a message an update is available and chose install: It gives me ERRORS saying servers cant be found etc!  Any fix?11:37
dooglustonyyarusso: it's quite a bright blue.  only 8 colours are allowed: black, red, green, yellow, blue, magenta, cyan, or white11:37
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ReWind^Hi:)11:37
wildesera a tutti!c' qualcuno che parli italiano'??11:37
psusitonyyarusso: I can't wait for the reiser4 filesystem to get merged into the stock kernel... it uses a wandering journal so it gets the benefits without the slowdown.. looks really cool11:38
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wildeheiiiiiiii11:38
wildequalcuno legge??11:38
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ReWind^I'm having a few problems with my fresh Ubuntu install, whenever I log in nothing happens, but I can log in with the emergency terminal and start programs manually.. Anyone have any experience with this?11:38
wildehol11:38
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dooglus!it11:38
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:38
foxinesshi , from long time now i can not see flash on ff ,i read the wiki about how to install flash but it the same big pic of empty flash ,am using ff 1.5 how can help me on this please :)?11:38
xtant_26hello}11:38
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Ophiocus!es11:39
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:39
xtant_26please give me the winmac_fstab url11:39
ompaulsomone asked about starting something in X sorry can't find your username - in ubuntu - system preferences sessions11:39
dooglusOphiocus: I'm pretty sure that was Italian he was speaking11:39
Pygi!hr11:39
ubotusomebody said hr was za hrvatski dodjite na #ubuntu-hr, da ne zbunjujete engleze.11:39
foxinessis the flash not work on last ff 1.5 ?11:39
wildeok11:39
Ophiocusyou are outstandingly right,. my call was for wilde11:40
wildeI can speak in english11:40
Ophiocus;)11:40
Pygilol ubotu :P11:40
tonyyarussofoxiness, It was fine for me, but doesn't come installed by default.11:40
xtant_26anyone please give me the winmac_fstab url11:40
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lightbrightwhats a uptodate and LATEST Breezy sources.list that works?11:40
ReWind^ompaul: That was probably me, I've got X-Chat up and running now, but I have to start everything manually, and I don't know where everything is, lol11:40
foxinesstonyyarusso, how you get it please?11:40
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wildewho can help me???11:40
ompaulin ubuntu - system preferences sessions there is a startup tab there11:40
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Lord_Athurdooglus, it's the wrong command11:40
dooglusLord_Athur: it is?11:40
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Ophiocuswilde, if you dont ask a question, no one can help you11:41
ReWind^ompaul: Cool, you woldn't happen to know where I could find the start-menu lookalike binary though, I don't have it running atm11:41
Jeeves_Mossdpkg:  transfer from one Samba share to another, howto11:41
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gfxstylerwell seems that no one here uses the 8.20.9 ati fglrx driver...11:41
ReWind^ompaul: Just an xterm, firefox and x-chat11:41
wildeyes11:41
dooglusLord_Athur: you asked how to change the background colour, and I told you a command that does it.  how is that "the wrong command" pray tell?11:41
wildeyes11:41
wildesorry11:41
wildeok11:41
rseeberhow can i get privledges to access an NTFS folder as my user and not just root11:41
xtant_26I need to mount the windows partition11:41
wildeI have only two weeks ubuntu11:41
sharnhi i just installed ubuntu and when i start my pc up it just says error 17 and stops can someone help me?? (BTW: i am in live on the pc in question)11:41
wildeand11:41
Lord_Athurdooglus, it is :D11:41
tonyyarussofoxiness, Um, it might depend on your repos, but you can apt-cache search flash, and look for things that look good to install.  (I have PLF enabled, so I'd have to check which ones are from them and which are official.)11:42
wildeI can't use the cam in the messenger11:42
ompaulwilde, ask it all on one line no enters it is easier for someone to follow - thus easier for them to help you11:42
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dooglusrseeber: you mount it with option "umask=0"11:42
wildeok11:42
Jeeves_Mosswilde:  there is a channel for Ubuntu.  #ubuntu11:42
sharnhi i just installed ubuntu and when i start my pc up it just says error 17 and stops can someone help me?? (BTW: i am in live on the pc in question)11:42
rseeberwhat option do i use in the /etc/fstab11:42
Jeeves_Mosssharn:  does it give you that error when you boot, or when the OS is up and stable?11:43
wildeis this, or not?11:43
dooglusrseeber: "umask=0"11:43
OphiocusJeeves_Moss, you travel in a lot of channels dont you?11:43
rseeberok, thanks11:43
ompaulReWind^, xchat, firefox, and xterm but you may prefer gnome-terminal11:43
wildejeeves11:43
sharnJeeves_moss: when i boot11:43
dooglusrseeber: the line I use is:11:43
dooglus/dev/hda1   /mnt/c           ntfs        noauto,umask=0 0      011:43
Jeeves_MossOphiocus:  yes I do.  I run a mix of Ubuntu and Debian.  all my main servers are Debian, my laptop and desktop are ubuntulog11:43
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tonyyarussofoxiness, Looks like mainly universe and multiverse, including flashplayer-mozilla and flashplugin-nonfree.11:43
_Antar_hey guys11:44
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wildehei11:44
Ophiocuscool, now look at the channel name11:44
Ophiocus:D11:44
sharnjeeves_Moss:i think grub is not cinfigured right orsometihng11:44
wildenobody give me an answer11:44
wilde?11:44
Ophiocuswilde i have not tried to plug a usb device yet11:44
yggdrasil_anyone here play flightgear ?11:44
Ophiocusbut i bet thats what you need to do11:44
Jeeves_Mosssharn:  just a sec.  I'll go look @ my error logs.11:44
_Antar_can anyone here tell me how to remove modules i dont need?11:44
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Ophiocuslet me see if i find a link for you11:44
ReWind^ompaul: Ah yeah, that looks nice:) Looking around to find the basic gnome-interface still, think I have found the binaries now but there's a ton of them so troubling a bit finding the right ones11:44
foxinesstonyyarusso, i have this one after i read about it from wiki but not work with me11:45
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Jeeves_Mosssharn: I think its because your BIOS dosen't like the size of your disk.11:45
ompaul_Antar_, modules should only load if needed11:45
sharnoh it could be11:45
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_Antar_I want to get rid of the ones i am not using11:45
_Antar_that i will never use11:45
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xtant_26Seveas, I need to mount my windows partition11:45
dooglus_Antar_: I wouldn't bother if I was you11:45
Jeeves_Mosssharn: its because grub can't mount the selected partition.  Go run LVM when you partition your diskes11:45
Pygi!ntfs11:46
ubotuhmm... ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK11:46
_Antar_you arnt me, do you know a way to do it?11:46
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ReWind^ompaul: Awesome, gnome-panel did the trick, have menus now, checking the settings you mentioned11:46
ompaul_Antar_, rmmod is the program11:46
dooglus_Antar_: "rm" will get rid of them11:46
Seveas!tell xtant_26 about diskmounter11:46
_Antar_thank you for the information11:46
sharnJeeves_Moss: i have a 250gb hard drive with windows ME on hda1 (130gb) and ybuntu on hda2 (113 gb)11:46
dooglusompaul: rmmod gets rid of modules you *are* using11:46
_Antar_so...11:46
Jeeves_Mosssharn:  so M$ is @ the start of your drive?11:46
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wildeophiocus:how I do for speak to you only?11:47
sharnyes11:47
xtant_26seveas, thank you11:47
lightbrightwhats a uptodate and LATEST Breezy sources.list that works?11:47
_Antar_i dont want to get rid of the ones i am using11:47
j3diso somehow i fucked myself out of the sudoers file11:47
_Antar_....(sigH)....11:47
Seveas!tell lightbright about sources11:47
Ophiocusyou cant11:47
dooglusj3di: reboot into rescue mode to fuck yourself back into it11:47
tonyyarussowilde: /msg nick Your message here, but always ask for permission first.11:47
Ophiocus:)11:47
sharnJeeves_Moss: yes11:47
j3dihow?11:47
Ophiocuswell yes you can,. but you have to register a nick first11:47
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dooglusj3di: if you use grub you should see an option at boot time for "rescue" or something like that11:48
j3dik11:48
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dooglusj3di: once there, undo whatever you did to the sudoers file11:48
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dooglusj3di: use "visudo" to edit the file rather than editing it manually11:48
ReWind^ompaul: I can't seem to start the sessions settings, does it depend on anything that Ubuntu would normally start in X on a functioning system?11:48
Jeeves_Mosssharn:  Every time I tried to do that, it caused my problems.  If I rember corectly, I had to install M$, resize the partition with partition magic, then toss in the Ubuntu CD.  Once it started to chew on things, I had to make sure that it ignored the M$ partition, installed Grub, and made sure th BIOS could read a disk that large.11:48
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wildeI have some problem to follow the discussion11:48
wildeis the first time that I speak in this chat11:49
wildeand I don't know if is possible to speak in mp11:49
psusiubuntu will resize ntfs just fine... I don't trust partition magic any further than I can throw it... seen it trash too many drives11:49
bryanli need one of those new macs11:49
bryanlreal bad11:49
doogluswilde: if you type "/query dooglus" you'll get a separate tab for talking to just one person11:49
sharnJeeves_Moss: now you have me scared because i dont have a clue how todo that11:49
Prozacanybody able to help me with oidentd? i cant get it to work :(11:49
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Jeeves_Mosspsusi:  I'm just telling you from MY personal experiance.  I did it while I was sitting in a physics lecture.11:50
SeveasProzac, try pidentd, works out of the box11:50
wildeak, let me try........11:50
Prozacs11:50
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ProzacSeveas but can i set a user defined reply?11:50
Seveasyes11:50
Prozachmmm how?11:50
Jeeves_Mosssharn:  just figure out if your BIOS can handle the large drive (read past the 8Gb mark), then have fun resizing your partition.  Once thats done, then its a peice of cake.11:50
chrisx1.repos11:50
j3diok i found a recovery mode11:51
j3diis that it?11:51
sharnJeeves_Moss: so how can i find out if my bois can do that?11:51
chrisx1Whats The Latest Ubuntu?11:51
wilde"/query ophiocus"11:51
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dooglusj3di: did you reboot?11:51
navaronesharn the ubuntu installer can resize partition that windows is on to make room for itself...jsut make sure you have defragged windows first11:51
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j3diyes i rebooted11:51
Ophiocuswithout the quotes11:51
doogluswilde: without the quotes (")11:51
ReWind^There wouldn't happen to be any startup logs for X slushing around on my drive that someone could point me to? :)11:51
Jeeves_Mosswhen the system boots, copy down the make and BIOS revision, then google.11:51
wildeok ok ahahahahhhh11:51
sharnJeeves_Moss: i cant get into windows now11:51
j3diok i'm root11:51
j3diso how do i get myself so i can be a sudoer again?11:52
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Ophiocusand as i said,. unregistered users cannot send private messages11:52
dooglusj3di: you're IRCing as root?  that would get you evicted from some freenode channels I could mention :)11:52
wildewhat's happened???11:52
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sharnJeeves_Moss: so do i have to put it n the spot ms is?11:52
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dooglusj3di: first you need to work out what's wrong11:52
j3dino dude.. its another box i'm root on.11:52
Jeeves_Mosssharn: <rolls eyes>   I don't supose you read how to set up Grub for a M$ partition?11:52
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Ophiocuswilde click where it says freenode,. you will understand11:52
dooglusj3di: what did you change to mess it up?11:52
j3dii think i swtiched the group i was in11:53
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wildewhere is frenode???11:53
j3dii was trying to add myself to a "users" group11:53
wogiwilde: You're here. :)11:53
timfrostReWind^, /var/log/Xorg.0.log*11:53
wildewhere I am???11:53
sharnJeeves_Moss: ok if i reinstall ubuntu in the first partition will that fix it?11:53
chrisx1Whats The Latest Ubuntu?11:53
wildeI understand nothing.........11:53
dooglusj3di: you need to be in the "admin" group.  run "adduser j3di admin" to add yourself to it11:53
Seveaswilde, freenode is the name of this chat network :)11:53
ReWind^timfrost: Thanks a lot, checking it out:)11:53
wogiwilde: Its this irc server..11:53
Seveaschrisx1, Breezy (5.10)11:53
navaronewilde freenode is the name of the chat server network11:53
tonyyarussoWhy does update-grub not recognize that my /boot is on a separate partition?11:53
yggdrasil_tha gawgles they do nawthing!!!!11:53
Jeeves_Mosssharn:  here ya go.  first search artical.  http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=grub+%22dual+boot%22&meta=11:53
wildemmmm11:54
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j3dithanx11:54
chrisx1ah k11:54
chrisx1dapper not released yet?11:54
wildeand so???11:54
dooglusj3di: what do you see if you run "grep ^% /etc/sudoers" as root?11:54
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tonyyarussochrisx1, Flight 2 yes, final is in April.11:54
navaronedapper is to be released in April chris11:54
ompaul!dapper11:54
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.11:54
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Ophiocusone sec web is slow this side of the world11:54
Ophiocus:)11:54
wogiwilde: What is your question again?11:54
navaronewilde> perhaps you'd be more comfortable in #ubuntu-it...?11:55
Lord_Athurdooglus, but the colour cannot be saved for the next boot time11:55
Ophiocuswilde wants to connect a webcam (for gaim i suppose)11:55
wildeis that I can't use the cam11:55
wildeno with gaim11:55
wildeand no with gnomemeeting11:55
wogiwilde: Oh, right. I don't know Anything about cameras :( Have you used that camera with Linux before?11:56
wildeI didn't found11:56
wildeno11:56
Ophiocusis it just me the wiki painfully slow for?11:56
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tonyyarussoOphiocus, I had the same problem.11:56
yggdrasil_wilde i think he wants to use his webcam like he used to do for msn mesenger in windows11:56
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Jeeves_Mosssharn:  did you look @ that link?11:56
SeveasOphiocus, no11:56
Lord_Athurdooglus, but the colour cannot be saved for the next boot time, is there a way to do it?11:57
wogiwilde: What did you not find?11:57
Seveasit's dead slow since a few hours11:57
dooglusLord_Athur: I don't kno11:57
dooglusw11:57
wildewho is "he"?11:57
blue-frogLord_Athur, what if you put a script in /etc/init.d/11:57
yggdrasil_well you11:57
yggdrasil_you are he11:57
yggdrasil_am i correct11:57
lightbrightwhats a uptodate and LATEST Breezy sources.list that works?  anyone?11:57
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wildenothing about ubuntu.it11:57
lightbrightSeveas: ok thanks :)11:57
wogiwilde: Can you just type /join #ubuntu-it ?11:57
Ophiocuswilde heres a treat,. its in spanish,. your webcam may not be a genius but its a good starting point11:57
Ophiocushttp://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/404111:58
ReWind^Doesn't really look like there's anything seriously wrong in the Xorg log, is there any log that will tell me about what's happening with the startup scripts that run after the ubuntu login screen?11:58
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palomerit = ithuania?11:58
Seveaspalomer, italia11:58
wildeno, italy11:58
palomeroh, I was close11:58
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Jeeves_Mossall: Ok guys, I'm outta here.  time to make some supper.11:58
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Ophiocushehe "your webcam may not be a genius", that works on so many levels XD11:58
navaronebye Jeeves11:59
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yggdrasil_hah is there even an ithuania ?11:59
tonyyarussopalomer, Well, except for the non-existant country bit, but sure.11:59
tonyyarussoyggdrasil, No.  Lithuania, yes.11:59
yggdrasil_is therea pager for gnome and thunderbird ?11:59
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GhostFreemanHow do I upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10?11:59
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palomerithuania existed before they changed their name to something else12:00

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