[12:00] <zeromod> ok im out of here. thanks again for the backup help gentlemen
[12:00] <punkrockguy318> is the sound broken in dapper?
[12:00] <flannel> but i am stuck in the least newb friendly environment ever lol
[12:00] <mwe> flannel: you probably gotta reconfigure xwindows
[12:00] <cafuego> _Saif_: That says: "If pppd is not executable, or if /etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot is not a file, then exit".
[12:01] <flannel> how do I do that...  I thought this was supposed to be newb friendly
[12:01] <mwe> flannel: maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and fill in _correct_ info
[12:01] <flannel> yikes...
[12:01] <_Saif_> ok tell me fianlly what command i should try on terminal
[12:01] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: no, it works fine, why?
[12:01] <cafuego> _Saif_: " if /etc/ppp/ppp_on_boot is not a file, then exit" -> Delete that file, so the script would exit.
[12:02] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, hmm, it's broken for me.. I installed kubuntu-desktop and removed it, and now my sound is broken
[12:02] <flannel> dont want to really ditch this but I was told by several people that this distro "just works"
[12:02] <_Saif_> Ok
[12:02] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: removing that metapackage wouldn't affect sound at all.
[12:02] <_Saif_> let me check
[12:02] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: cat /proc/asound/cards  --> pastebin
[12:02] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, no, i removed it all togehter
[12:02] <flannel> and it is giving me a headache :(
[12:03] <tech9iner> simple ?buntu taster here matesNlassies..
[12:03] <navarone> flannel what is the problem you are having?
[12:03] <punkrockguy318> 0 [Live           ] : EMU10K1 - SB Live 5.1           SB Live 5.1 (rev.7, serial:0x80641102) at 0xdf80, irq 177
[12:03] <butcherbird> flannel: you can pretty much just enter through defaults during reconfigure
[12:03] <ateves> hi! is there a way to start a normal software as a process?
[12:03] <ateves> via shell
[12:03] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: ``amixer''  --> pastebin
[12:03] <flannel> I have finally managed to get into ubuntu but have no gui at all
[12:03] <mwe> ateves: just run it
[12:03] <_Saif_> theres a file name " pppoe_on_boot
[12:04] <tech9iner> realizing im loading up off ubuntu 5.0.4.. which is default gnome environment..
[12:04] <cafuego> _Saif_: Check if that is referenced anywhere in /etc/init.d/ and then read the script that uses it.
[12:04] <flannel> butcherbird, how do I reconfigure....  mwe said a command but there were blanks :(
[12:04] <nikol> the neccesery utils,libs,etc ???
[12:04] <tech9iner> can one convert ubuntu to kubuntu via synaptic with apropos sources/repositories perchance please?
[12:04] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/498502
[12:04] <brl4n> After booting with the LiveCD version AMD64 my monitor shows nothing.  I'm assuming that it can't display the resolution so I checked off everything but 800x600.  Still just a black screen.  Any suggestions?  I have an ATI All-in-wonder 600x
[12:04] <mwe> flannel: ?
[12:04] <butcherbird> flannel: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[12:05] <cafuego> tech9iner: Normal repos, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.
[12:05] <flannel> maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and fill in _correct_ info
[12:05] <mwe> butcherbird: xserver-xorg, isn't it
[12:05] <flannel> the fill in correct info got me mwe ... sorry :(
[12:05] <navarone> tech9iner, you can install kubuntu-desktop to get kubuntu on ubuntu...then you chose kde at log-in session
[12:05] <sorush20> mwe there is nothin mentioned about a floppy on this page at all .. bad link in ubotu
[12:05] <cafuego> Ooh, new usplash?
[12:05] <butcherbird> mwe: probably not on ubuntu right now
[12:05] <_Saif_> init.d , in this folder theres a file named , PPP
[12:05] <mwe> sorush20: it's the same procudure
[12:05] <Manifold> Ach.
[12:06] <flannel> butcherbird: u sure that'll work if i run it once I log in?
[12:06] <TTilus> I have "johanna     tavi = (mythtv) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/mythfrontend" in sudoers but "sudo -u mythtv /usr/bin/mythfrontend" still asks password for johanna
[12:06] <sorush20> mwe not the same procedure..
[12:06] <mwe> sorush20: sudo mkdir -p /media/floppy && sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy, probably
[12:06] <cafuego> _Saif_: What does /etc/init.d/ppp say about pppoe_on_boot?
[12:06] <mwe> sorush20: indeed
[12:06] <butcherbird> flannel: abolutely 20% sure
[12:06] <_Saif_> so what do you think, should i delete that pppoe boot file or this one
[12:06] <flannel> lmao
[12:06] <Mx16> Ok so sorry, it says "Unable to start X Server (your graphical interface) blah blah and what do I do???
[12:06] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: your PCM is set very slow, and you need to mute 'IEC958 Optical Raw'
[12:06] <flannel> is that a jk or truth
[12:07] <butcherbird> flannel: mostly joke
[12:07] <flannel> hehe
[12:07] <butcherbird> flannel: should work
[12:07] <flannel> will go try now...
[12:07] <brl4n> help! help!
[12:07] <_Saif_> it says about ppoe_on_boot
[12:07] <brl4n> hee
[12:07] <_Saif_> i can show you the script on your private
[12:07] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[12:07] <slew> !java
[12:07] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:07] <Mx16> someone said I need to type "sudo dexconf"??
[12:07] <sorush20> mew there is not need to cread a floppy dr any where since it is alredy there and also there is no need to format your floppy if you are try to view the files on a floppy
[12:07] <cafuego> _Saif_: Use the pastebin
[12:07] <cafuego> !paste
[12:07] <ubotu> methinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[12:07] <brl4n> !ATI
[12:07] <ubotu> from memory, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[12:07] <wogi> Question: Is there a way to undo your last apt-get install? A package had a lot of dependancies, and didn't install properly anyhow, and it added a bunch of stuff like slapd and mailman and exim, and I just kind of want to go back to the previous state. If I apt-get remove gforge (the package), it doesn't free up nearly as much space as it took, so I guess its not removing all of its dependancies?
[12:08] <_Saif_> cafuego, i'm in flood
[12:08] <thick-glasses> is anyone running the latest ati driver with breezy?
[12:08] <sorush20> mew there is also no mention of vfat
[12:08] <Ng> wogi: unfortunately, not really
[12:08] <mwe> wogi: sudo debfoster. install it if you haven't got it
[12:08] <sorush20> how do I find out what is the file system of a floppy?
[12:08] <bryanf> does anyone know why /dev/rtc would be missing on dapper?
[12:08] <brl4n> sweet
[12:08] <mwe> wogi: it will ask a lot the first time you run it though
[12:09] <wogi> mwe: mkay :)
[12:09] <crimsun> bryanf: because the module isn't loaded?
[12:09] <bryanf> crimsun: what module?
[12:09] <mwe> wogi: go with defaults with anything you're unsure about
[12:09] <crimsun> bryanf: rtc
[12:09] <tech9iner> g r e a t
[12:09] <bryanf> crimsun: sudo modprobe rtc
[12:09] <bryanf> FATAL: Module rtc not found.
[12:10] <crimsun> bryanf: uname -r
[12:10] <Mx16> it says "Unable to start X Server (your graphical interface) blah blah and what do I do
[12:10] <bryanf> crimsun: 2.6.15-11-powerpc
[12:10] <tech9iner> just finished installing off 5.0.4 cd and messed up username / password.. and now realizing wasnt offered opportunity to assign root password was i mates?
[12:10] <mwe> Mx16: yeah reconfigure it
[12:10] <wogi> mwe: uh oh..Now any apt-get install or remove I do gives me a list of errors in regards to gforge related packages, and is returning an error code..
[12:10] <bryanf> tech9iner: no, ubuntu doesn't use root
[12:10] <mwe> Mx16: probably sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and fill in _correct_ info
[12:10] <crimsun> bryanf: you probably don't have a kernel/drivers/char/rtc.ko
[12:10] <tech9iner> at all bryanf ?
[12:10] <cOff3ebuZz> hello. How do you start the networking interface so that eth0 can get an IP from the dhcp server?
[12:10] <KillerKiwi2005> i've installed the simias ifolder server how to i start it as a serivce ?
[12:10] <bryanf> tech9iner: you use sudo to do all root stuff
[12:11] <cOff3ebuZz> /etc/init.d/networking ?
[12:11] <mwe> wogi: pastebin the errors
[12:11] <bryanf> crimsun: nope
[12:11] <Mx16> do i type that when i log in?
[12:11] <wogi> mwe: but its telling me a bunch of stuff, so let me read a bit first..
[12:11] <trappist> bryanf: try genrtc
[12:11] <tech9iner> so any pointers mates on howto fix typo'ed username password on 1st unbuntu install please?
[12:11] <bryanf> trappist: awesome
[12:11] <Mx16> becuase i can't even start it and it;s just my username and password and it says welcome to Ubuntu
[12:12] <wogi> mew: 9 not fully installed or removed.
[12:12] <mwe> Mx16: yeah
[12:12] <wogi> mwe: thats the jist of it.
[12:12] <tech9iner> so way bryanf to use sudo access to users to reset password maybe?.. failsafe ?
[12:12] <mwe> Mx16: type if after login at the console
[12:12] <Mx16> ok thanks I'll try it
[12:12] <bryanf> tech9iner: huh?
[12:12] <brl4n> linux is too much trouble for what it is worth....ugg.
[12:13] <Pygi> brl4n: lol
[12:13] <mwe> wogi: I'd try sudo apt-get -f
[12:13] <Pygi> linux is no trouble at all
[12:13] <Pygi> windows is the trouble
[12:13] <tech9iner> at very 1st ever login upon 1st completed ubuntu install.. i obviously typoed the installs username and/or password during install
[12:13] <brl4n> i've never been able to install a working system.
[12:13] <bryanf> trappist: now, if I can just get X to draw progress bars correctly
[12:13] <brl4n> always graphics problems
[12:13] <Pygi> brl4n: well, get a friend to install it for you at first time
[12:13] <Pygi> then you'll learn
[12:13] <Pygi> brl4n: no graphics problem at all
[12:13] <Pygi> brl4n: you or your friend just needs to know *tm*
[12:14] <brl4n> well I have wireless so I can't get drivers.
[12:14] <Pygi> brl4n: drivers for what? wireless? oh, you surely can
[12:14] <KillerKiwi2005> how do i start something as a service?
[12:14] <mwe> brl4n: ndiswrapper solves that in most cases
[12:14] <nikol> i have p4 2.4 i must download the package for the powerpc or for i386?
[12:14] <Cintia> how to configure the samba as client?
[12:14] <gauros> can i have some help with ubuntu
[12:14] <tech9iner> brl4n: hmm.. sad guv.. i buggered me password during installation's username configs.. but ubuntu 5.0.4 cd installed like a breeze on this antique panasonic toughbook.. Pll 366 w just 128ram..
[12:14] <Aven> how do I open the 113 port?
[12:15] <mwe> nikol: if you don't have a mac don't get the ppc
[12:15] <tech9iner> so mates..
[12:15] <gauros> how do i log in as root
[12:15] <brl4n> yeah but how am I supposed to get the drivers if I can't get on the internet?  The liveCD doesn't work so i'm pretty stuck
[12:15] <Pygi> brl4n: well, make the friend download it for u :P
[12:15] <Aven> ubotu tell gauros about root
[12:15] <Pygi> ubotu tell gauros about root
[12:15] <Pygi> :/
[12:15] <Aven> :P
[12:16] <gauros> well i justed installed ubuntu
[12:16] <gauros> and i am trying to mate a folder /var/bin
[12:16] <Pygi> gauros: ubotu just told u
[12:16] <brl4n> i find it funny that you need another computer to install.
[12:16] <gauros> but it does not let me
[12:16] <Aven> use sudo
[12:16] <mwe> brl4n: of course the live cd works. i'd say this is probably a typical PEBKAC
[12:16] <brl4n> PEBKAC?
[12:16] <Pygi> brl4n: I find it funny that you are even considering linux if you don't want to activate "grey matter" (TM)
[12:16] <Aven> the url that ubotu give ya explains everything :D
[12:16] <Stormx2> What packages do I need for the "svn" command?
[12:16] <TTilus> gauros: why do you want to create that?
[12:16] <tech9iner> any ref url's for fugdeupps like yours truly please.. 1st ubuntu installed with typoed username / password during install.. cant login..
[12:16] <gauros> well i need it for my dreambox
[12:16] <Pygi> brl4n: come out of Windows philosophy....this is Linux :P
[12:16] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, i muted the optical raw and brought up pcm, still no sound.. any ideas?
[12:16] <tech9iner> tiniest of clues appreciated muchly mates.. thanks
[12:17] <navarone> tech9iner, I take it you are not on ubuntu now?
[12:17] <brl4n> pygi:yeah i know.  every time I attempt it doesn't work.  I've given up on it
[12:17] <Stormx2> I've tried installing libsvn0 but that seems to have done absolutely nothing,
[12:17] <gauros> TTilus:how can i do it
[12:17] <mwe> brl4n: just go back to windows then
[12:17] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: mute 'Sigmatel Surround Phase Inversion Playback '
[12:17] <Pygi> brl4n: huh :/
[12:17] <brl4n> mwe:blah
[12:17] <tech9iner> navarone: aye.. spot on chum.. u install is on lappy side my suse10 main workstation.. ;] 
[12:17] <mwe> brl4n: you said you've given up
[12:18] <Pygi> mwe: we are here to help, but we can't help someone who doesn't want help :P
[12:18] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: possibly 'Sigmatel Surround', too
[12:18] <TTilus> gauros: have you checked if dreambox is available as .deb package?
[12:18] <Pygi> brl4n: we are here to help, but we can't help someone who doesn't want help :P
[12:18] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: and have you adjusted the Headphones* elements?
[12:18] <TTilus> gauros: always first check that
[12:18] <brl4n> OK.  maybe I'll try on my other system.  thanks
[12:18] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, no, where should they be?
[12:18] <ketaset> launching gnome applications is really slow on a new install - everything else seems fine, just launching new apps - e.g. calculator takes 6 secs to load, anyone know what might cause this?
[12:18] <TTilus> gauros: packages.ubuntu.com, or better yet synaptic, aptitude or like
[12:18] <Pygi> ketaset: how much memory u have? swap?
[12:19] <gauros> TTilus: mate i have a plugin called gbox that will help me connect dreambox with PC, but it need to be on /var/bin to run
[12:19] <IdleOne> !eggdrop
[12:19] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: use any standard mixer
[12:19] <ubotu> IdleOne: Are you smoking crack?
[12:19] <Cintia> pygi, help me then :)
[12:19] <TTilus> ketaset: hd performance, do you have dma enabled, chec hdparm /dev/hd*
[12:19] <ketaset> 1gb mem, 2gb swap - the machine seems responsived except for launching apps from gnome
[12:19] <Pygi> Cintia: what's the problem??
[12:19] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, yeah, i know.. but where should the headphone levels be?
[12:19] <tech9iner> howto reset 1st run username / password please.. thanks
[12:19] <Pygi> ketaset: lol, 2gb swap :P
[12:19] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: what level?
[12:19] <Cintia> Im trying to set my samba as client
[12:19] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: whatever you find comfortable
[12:19] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, yeah, you asked if i had changed them
[12:20] <Pygi> cintia: huh, and why you caught me for that? :P
[12:20] <Cintia> the linux as client and the xp as server
[12:20] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, i've muted the surround and i'm still getting no sound
[12:20] <Cintia> lol
[12:20] <Cintia> cause u r the best
[12:20] <gauros> TTilus:tahts why i need to login as root to make taht folder
[12:20] <moret> hi!
[12:20] <moret> please
[12:20] <brl4n> pygi:i'm confused obviously.  If i can't get my display to work how do I even issue commands?
[12:20] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: so adjust the Headphones* ones
[12:20] <Pygi> cintia: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/book/ch10_04.html
[12:20] <moret> where is dpkg-reconfigure locales?
[12:20] <ketaset> dma is enabled ttilus
[12:20] <navarone> tech9iner, you can use install cd to do a rescue...boot up and type "rescue" at prompt...perhaps then you will be able to add a  user and NOT fudge the name and passwords
[12:20] <TTilus> !root
[12:20] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:20] <gauros> TTilus:because as member it does not let me either to copy or paste on /var
[12:20] <Pygi> brl4n: well, can you use a shell???
[12:20] <Cintia> Pygi, cheers, I'll try
[12:20] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: oh, and more importantly, the Wave* ones
[12:20] <Stormx2> I have a dependancy problem! libsvn0-dev:
[12:20] <Stormx2>  Depends: libdb4.2-dev but it is not going to be installed
[12:20] <Pygi> cintia: k, say if it doesnt work
[12:20] <wogi> mwe: apt-get -f remove gforge-db-postgresq gives me Removing gforge-db-postgresql ...cp: cannot stat `/etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf': No such file or directory  dpkg: error processing gforge-db-postgresql (--remove): subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1 :/ I think I broke it.. (Thank you for helping me!)
[12:21] <Pygi> !enter
[12:21] <TTilus> gauros: listen to ubotu ...
[12:21] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:21] <brl4n> Pygi:nothing shows up on the display.  not even a shell.
[12:21] <Pygi> wogi, refrain from that :P
[12:21] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: 'Wave' is also muted. Fix that.
[12:21] <wogi> Pygi: Mm?
[12:21] <Pygi> brl4n: hm, u using ubuntu 5.10? and installation passes ok?
[12:21] <Pygi> wogi, read....
[12:21] <Pygi> !enter
[12:21] <mwe> wogi: sudo apt-get -f with no arguement. just sudo apt-get -f
[12:21] <Stormx2> >_< I feel so invisible tonight.
[12:21] <Pygi> !enter
[12:21] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, still no sound :(
[12:21] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:21] <mwe> wogi: that's what I wanted you to try
[12:21] <Pygi> Stormx2: lol :P
[12:21] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: did you unmute and increase Wave*, too?
[12:21] <Pygi> cintia: tell iif it doesnt work
[12:21] <Stormx2> Pygi: Maybe you could help?
[12:22] <nikol> after the installation where i can find and run the app???
[12:22] <Cintia> ok
[12:22] <Pygi> Stormx2: huh, what do you need?
[12:22] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, yes
[12:22] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: _all_ of them?
[12:22] <punkrockguy318> yes
[12:22] <punkrockguy318> and Wave is muted
[12:22] <brl4n> pygi:well the LiveCD.  it seems to boot fine but nothing appears on the display.  I figured it is trying to start X and it is failing.  how can I access just a shell from the LiveCD.  (AMD64 too)
[12:22] <Stormx2> Pygi: I have a dependancy problem.
[12:22] <Pygi> brl4n: please try again, and if you get shell, then everything else is easy :)
[12:22] <cyphase> can someone give me the link to a nytimes.com article that requires a username?
[12:22] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: it's supposed to be _unmuted_
[12:22] <Pygi> stormx: k, please post the problem on a pm, thanks
[12:22] <moret> I run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" and I don't get nothing! I need reconfigure locales
[12:22] <cyphase> i want to try to get past it (not with BugMeNot)
[12:22] <nikol> after the installation where i can find and run the app???
[12:23] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, alright, it's still the same behavior
[12:23] <navarone> tech9iner, I would do a "man adduser" in terminal first to see what parameters are needed. I think "adduser" by itself will mean a prompt for name and password
[12:23] <gauros> ubuntu:what are other wasy of making folders
[12:23] <Pygi> brl4n: huh, live cd :/ u should have said so :P live cd is kinda tricky and doesnt work as it should but still....
[12:23] <Pygi> brl4n: try using CTRL + ALT + F2
[12:23] <Stormx2> Pygi: Check your PM
[12:23] <brl4n> kool thanks
[12:23] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, any other ideas?
[12:23] <mwe> navarone: and probably no homedir created :)
[12:23] <brl4n> bbl
[12:23] <Pygi> stormx2: I am, I am just busy :P
[12:24] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: sigh. sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload && sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1
[12:24] <Pygi> stormx2: responded
[12:25] <nikol> after the installation where i can find and run the app???
[12:25] <henrik__> Anybody up for helping me getting my Radeon 9600 TX to work? Tried the how-tos, no cigar...
[12:25] <mwe> nikol: what app?
[12:25] <slew> hi, whats the program that installs icons and themes from art.gnome.org?
[12:25] <Pygi> henrik: I'll help, just a sec :P
[12:25] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, no luck (
[12:25] <henrik__> cool
[12:25] <navarone> mwe...possibly...I never used the command beforebut man adduser says it will create homwe direcvtory subject to DHOME..blah blah...I guess defaults
[12:25] <moret> please, help, I need reconfigure locales, but when I execute sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales happens nothing
[12:25] <mwe> nikol: most programs add a shorcut to the menu, but it wont appear until you log out and back in I think
[12:26] <saif> cafuego, problem remains
[12:26] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: after you reloaded snd-emu10k1, did you unmute anything?
[12:26] <saif> its dial auto
[12:26] <punkrockguy318> no
[12:26] <saif> anyway thx for the help
[12:26] <crimsun> ...
[12:26] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, my mixer is at the same level
[12:26] <saif> i will push out the phone pin while i start ubuntu
[12:26] <Pygi> ubotu tell henrik__ about ati
[12:26] <Pygi> henrik__, tried that??
[12:26] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: amixer output
[12:26] <wogi> mwe: So that gives me a help file, yeah? But I'm not seeing I guess what I need. I'll keep looking. Thanks!
[12:26] <mwe> navarone: yeah. I was thinking of useradd
[12:27] <punkrockguy318> amixer: Unkown command 'output'
[12:27] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: no, I want the amixer output on pastebin
[12:27] <Pygi> cintia: does it work now?
[12:27] <mwe> wogi: or install the broken package then uninstall it to clean it up
[12:27] <Pygi> I am booked for the next 10 years, please call later if u need any help :P
[12:27] <gauros> how to make file with sodu
[12:27] <ompaul> punkrockguy318, >>amixer<< and put it into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:28] <wogi> mwe: ooh clever. :)
[12:28] <Pygi> gauros: what kind of file?
[12:28] <jamie> I installed Enlightenment, and somehow ended up with entranced as my login I would perfer to go back to the default, GDM? How can I do this
[12:28] <Pygi> gauros: sudo vim ja.txt :))))
[12:28] <Pygi> ubotu tell jamie about GDM
[12:28] <mwe> wogi: yeah sometimes windows logic works in linux too
[12:28] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/498530
[12:28] <navarone> mwe...but update is better...<s>
[12:29] <wogi> mwe: heh I think I was mising sudo apt-get -f install (the "install")
[12:29] <gauros> folder i meant
[12:29] <punkrockguy318>  my sound has been working fine until just recently.  I don't know if it was a dapper dist-upgrade, or the kubuntu install
[12:29] <bimberi> jamie: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[12:29] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: amixer sset 'SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack' on
[12:29] <jamie> bimberi, tks
[12:29] <mwe> wogi: so it's fixed?
[12:29] <navarone> punkrockguy318, perhaps you'd be better served visiting a dapper support channel...?
[12:29] <mamadragonboy> Is anyone there who can help me with installation?
[12:29] <bimberi> jamie: yw :)
[12:30] <punkrockguy318> navarone, like what?
[12:30] <Pygi> navarone: there is no dapper support channel :/
[12:30] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: ugh, you could have told me it was a dist-upgrade.
[12:30] <navarone> no? oy vey
[12:30] <gauros> how to make a folder
[12:30] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, I thought i mentioned it
[12:30] <gauros> on sudo
[12:30] <Pygi> navarone: except #dapper :PPP
[12:30] <mwe> gauros: sudo mkdir
[12:30] <navarone> carry on punkrockguy318 ...<s>
[12:30] <mamadragonboy> please?
[12:30] <gauros> tahnx
[12:30] <mamadragonboy> or direct me to where I can get help?
[12:30] <Pygi> !patience
[12:30] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[12:30] <wogi> mwe: Not totally no, but I'm getting some slightly different messages :D
[12:30] <mwe> wogi: ok
[12:31] <tech9iner> can one convert ubuntu to kubuntu via synaptic with apropos sources/repositories perchance please?
[12:31] <mamadragonboy> ok
[12:31] <mwe> wogi: what is it complaining about?
[12:31] <Pygi> tech: ofcourse
[12:31] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: not that I see. Anyhow...
[12:31] <sethk> tech9iner, you can, but it is easier to just have both gnome and kde installed
[12:31] <tech9iner> Pygi: thanks
[12:31] <sethk> tech9iner, that's trivial
[12:31] <Pygi> tech: use sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:31] <Stormx2> According to the good folks in #audacious, my SVN is broken. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6856
[12:31] <alekandr> tech9iner: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :]  the rest is the same, apart from kde and gnome :] 
[12:31] <tech9iner> comforting indeedy mates..
[12:31] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, any other ideas? i've tried two different pairs of speakers... and it seems to work on my win install
[12:31] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: did you unmute what I siad?
[12:31] <crimsun> said
[12:31] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, yes
[12:32] <bimberi> mamadragonboy: tell us what the problem is, hopefully someone can help
[12:32] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: now unmute 'Wave' and 'Wave Front' and adjust them
[12:32] <wogi> mwe: Well the pkg its having trouble removing (even after reinstalling) is gforge-db-postgresql. And it first said it couldn't find /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf (I guess removed in a previous uninstall attempt?) and died, so I touch /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf, and now its saying cannot open /var/lib/postgres/data/postmaster.pid for reading: no file or directory, so thats where its dying.
[12:33] <gauros> how can my user have full root permisions, copy, paste, delete, new etc
[12:33] <michael__> might flood - sorry, this is the terminal report of my problem
[12:33] <mamadragonboy> When I boot from the cd, it give me this message "isolinux 2.04 2003-04-16 isolinux: loading spec packet failed, trying to wing it... isolinux: failed to locate cd-rom devide; boot failed"  But I know my cd rom is working
[12:33] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: sorry, 'Wave' and 'Front'
[12:33] <mwe> wogi: and you can't remove it either?
[12:33] <kitty_> my ubuntu doesnt recognize music off cd's... its doing my nut in
[12:33] <michael__> nope have to type it
[12:33] <Pygi> dragonboy: media is bad or corupted
[12:33] <wogi> thats what i'm trying to do..
[12:33] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, done, same thing :-\
[12:34] <gauros> how can my user have full root permisions, copy, paste, delete, new etc
[12:34] <mamadragonboy> should I try finding a new driver? or what?
[12:34] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: mute 'External Amplifier'
[12:34] <kitty_> can some on help me... my computer wont make any sound come out...
[12:34] <crimsun> god I hate broken emu10k1 chipsets.
[12:34] <Pygi> dragonboy: no get new media
[12:34] <wogi> mwe: its like -f isn't powerful enough :P
[12:34] <mwe> wogi: but sudo apt-get --purge remove gforge-db-postgresql wont work?
[12:34] <Pygi> crimsun: hehe :)
[12:34] <Pygi> !patience
[12:34] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[12:34] <mamadragonboy> ok, thanks- this was my last attempt to get an old computer to work-
[12:34] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, done, no speaker output :(
[12:35] <wogi> mwe: nope. exactly same thing :/
[12:35] <henrik__> I don't know if this has anything to do with it, but I seem to be missing some of the fonts under the "files"-section (meaning I don't have them on my comp) in my xorg.conf. Where do I go about getting those?
[12:35] <navarone> gaurus why not simply use sudo instead of root account? Or do you enjoy your time here so much you want a reason to copme back?
[12:35] <wogi> hehe
[12:35] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, what do you think the problem could be?
[12:35] <Pygi> !font
[12:35] <ubotu> [font]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[12:35] <henrik__> thanks
[12:35] <Doomhammer> can someone help me out a bit with QEMU? I can't seem to get the network working
[12:36] <gauros> navarone:mate i am new in here, i have no idea about sodu
[12:36] <Pygi> doomhammer: what is ur problem exactly?
[12:36] <kitty_> who runs this thing
[12:36] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: ok, here's what you need to do: unmute anything that has a 'Front', 'Headphone', or 'Wave' in the title, then toggle 'External Amplifier' until you get a combination that works.
[12:36] <Pygi> ubotu tell gauros about sudo
[12:36] <Pygi> ubotu tell gauros about gksudo
[12:36] <Pygi> ubotu tell gauros about kdesu
[12:36] <gauros> navarone:where can i get a list with al the commands
[12:36] <Pygi> there gauros
[12:36] <mwe> wogi: well I'd try sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/gforge-db-post<tab> then sudo dpkg --purge gforge-db-postgresql then
[12:36] <pschulz01> Greetings: I'm getting a 'can't display' error when using 'sftp:' on the desktop.
[12:36] <Doomhammer> Pygi: any OS i install in QEMU (windows xp, ubuntu, whatever) can't access the network
[12:36] <navarone> punkrockguy318, sorry if you've done this but have you looked at the System Multimedia selector in System preferences and seen if it looks ok?
[12:36] <Doomhammer> Pygi: although, qemu can access /dev/net/tun and the kernel module is properly configured
[12:37] <nikol> i run an .deb and i can;t install it, what prog i must select to install it?????
[12:37] <Pygi> dpkg -i package.deb
[12:37] <Pygi> doomhammer: I am guessing that you cant run two instances of a network :/ the host OS is using network, but the guest cant use it
[12:37] <mwe> nikol: installing random debs could break the system though
[12:37] <michael__> E: Cannot get debconf sersion. Is debconf Installed?        debconf: apt-extracttemplates failed: Argument list too long <-- REPEATS        Preconfiguring packages...        dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 2 package `dpkg': error in Version string`': version string is empty
[12:37] <Stormx2> Ack. Reinstalling SVN did not help at all!
[12:37] <Pygi> michael: do not enter
[12:37] <nikol> pygi: in console?
[12:37] <navarone> gaurus, sudo is simply a way to limit the time people spend on their systems with root privileges. Running root all the time is insecure and potentially can make a simple mistake costly
[12:37] <Pygi> !enter
[12:37] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[12:38] <theine> nikol, or probably rather "sudo dpkg -i package.deb"
[12:38] <punkrockguy318> navarone, there's no such thing in Dapper
[12:38] <nikol> pygi: in console?
[12:38] <wogi> mwe: That <tab> doesn't completefor me.. I don't have that file..
[12:38] <Pygi> nikol: yesh
[12:38] <michael__> -while trying to install debconf
[12:38] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, still no luck
[12:38] <Doomhammer> Pygi: the host OS (ubuntu hoary) shouldn't be using /dev/net/tun, afaik ?
[12:38] <bobby> I need to install via graphics drivers (I believe viafb) ...does any one know the aptitude deb package for it because the precompiled binary doesn't work
[12:38] <Pygi> nikol: but don't try to do that unless u are familiar with all types of things
[12:38] <pschulz01> I have mounted a server system using ssh, and can browse, but get the erro when 'double clicking'. Can copy the file to local filesystem, and view it there though. Any ideas?
[12:38] <wogi> mwe: Let me see what I Do have in there.
[12:38] <bettong_BOFH> ok i had installed kubuntu via apt get later i removed it and i want to get the kubuntu crap outta my menu's?
[12:38] <Pygi> doomhammer: hm.....
[12:38] <gauros> navarone: i just need root for one think, is it possible to get the root pass
[12:38] <bettong_BOFH> is there a menu editor for ubuntu?
[12:38] <Pygi> bettong: #kubuntu
[12:38] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: ok, use the Volume Control (in OSS perspective)
[12:38] <wogi> mwe: aha, one more dir, "archives"
[12:38] <Pygi> gauros: USE SUDO
[12:38] <bettong_BOFH> there no help there
[12:38] <gauros> navarone:i cannot use sudo as i am new with linux
[12:38] <Pygi> NO ROOT
[12:38] <nikol> pygi: it is not neccesery to give the whole path?
[12:38] <Pygi> gauros: ubotu told u
[12:38] <bettong_BOFH> thats why i came here
[12:38] <bettong_BOFH> lol
[12:38] <theine> pschulz01, what error do you get?
[12:38] <Pygi> nikol: no
[12:39] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, okay
[12:39] <Pygi> gauros: ubotu told u about sudo
[12:39] <navarone> gaurus what command are you trying to run that needs root? sudo can be used for it I am sure
[12:39] <theine> pschulz01, and how did you mount it?
[12:39] <phoghawk> Hey guys, I just installed GAIM 2.0 via CVS. I wanna know how to tell apt-get that it's already the newest version and that it doesn't need to be upgraded. Can anyone help me
[12:39] <gauros> Pygi:ubotu told me and u think its so easy to understand
[12:39] <bimberi> bettong_BOFH: Applications -> System Tools -> Applications Menu Editor
[12:39] <Pygi> gauros: well, it is easy :P
[12:39] <Pygi> just type "sudo" :P
[12:39] <Pygi> what is a problem?
[12:39] <bettong_BOFH> bimberi: thank you
[12:39] <bimberi> bettong_BOFH: np :)
[12:39] <theine> nikol, you need to give the whole path to package.deb, yes
[12:40] <gauros> Pygi: ok make a folder, i did, copy a file form external hard driver to theta folder and run that file
[12:40] <bimberi> nikol: you'll also need to use sudo
[12:40] <Pygi> gauros: and whats the problem?
[12:40] <gauros> navarone:thats what i want to do
[12:40] <phoghawk> Hey guys, I just installed GAIM 2.0 via CVS. I wanna know how to tell apt-get that it's already the newest version and that it doesn't need to be upgraded. Can anyone help me
[12:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell phoghawk about pinning
[12:40] <gauros> Pygi: do you think its linux so easy for everyone
[12:40] <moret> please, help, I need reconfigure locales, but when I execute sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales happens nothing
[12:40] <phoghawk> thanks nalioth
[12:40] <moret> please, help, I need reconfigure locales, but when I execute sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales happens nothing, I use Dapper
[12:40] <Pygi> gauros: not actually, but "sudo" shouldnt be a problem :P
[12:41] <Pygi> moret, visit #ubuntu-devel
[12:41] <bimberi> phoghawk: you can use synaptic to lock the version (Package menu)
[12:41] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, what should i do with the oss volume controls?
[12:41] <Pygi> !patience
[12:41] <pschulz01> Couldn't display "sftp://blue/<path-goes-here>/file.PDF" - in a popup box.
[12:41] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[12:41] <navarone> gaurus so in terminal it would be sudo cp /path to file to copy  /folder you made
[12:42] <navarone> gaurus you need to mount external harddrive as well in order to access the file to copy
[12:42] <gauros> thats what i am trying to find
[12:42] <gauros> all the sodu commands
[12:42] <gauros> i have
[12:42] <Pygi> sudo*
[12:42] <gauros> and it works
[12:42] <Pygi> well you can run anything with sudo :/
[12:42] <theine> pschulz01, hmm, and you can view the file locally if you double click it?
[12:42] <Pygi> huh, should I just quit :P
[12:42] <wogi> mwe: Good gravy.From that dpkg --purge /var... one, it tells me /etc/init.d/postgresql was notfound, and just errors out. Ok.. I'll just need to start over maybe.. install the whole thing again and try debfoster again or something *droop* h8 gforge
[12:42] <navarone> gaurus try "man sudo" in terminal or "sudo -help"
[12:42] <crimsun> punkrockguy318: adjust them til you find a combination that works. I'm busy atm.
[12:42] <nekostar> is there a package like cksfv that does md5's of files and saves or something?
[12:42] <pschulz01> theine: I think I've found my problem...
[12:43] <mwe> wogi: did you reinstall it first?
[12:43] <mwe> wogi: with dpkg
[12:44] <punkrockguy318> crimsun, alright. thank you for all your time.. i've adjusted them as much as i could, i really don't think it's a problem with the mixer, it was working fine and I don't see what would have changed the mixer... thanks a lot for your help and if you have any more ideas, let me know
[12:44] <pschulz01> theine: it works on my workstation, not my co-workers. I had to change the '/etc/ssh/ssh_config' file to allow X11 apps to work, but he hasn't logged out and logged back in.. does this sound plausable?
[12:44] <theine> nekostar, like md5sum?
[12:44] <Stormx2> This sucks big time. Problem with subversion and I have no idea what it is.....
[12:44] <wogi> mwe: hmm.. With apt I think. But I've tried what you've said. I was just thinking gforge-db-postgresql is depending on something else that Did get successfully uninstalled..
[12:44] <theine> pschulz01, yes, very
[12:44] <Stormx2> And no-one else has it.
[12:45] <gauros> last question, why couple of manths ago, when i had ubuntu, i could do all these things
[12:45] <mwe> wogi: sudo apt-get -d install --reinstall gforge-db-postgresql should re-download the .deb
[12:45] <nekostar> ah thanx theine
[12:45] <theine> nekostar, welcome
[12:45] <navarone> Stormx2, what is subversion?
[12:45] <tuppa> gah  @ OO.o2 on dapper
[12:45] <pschulz01> theine: How does gnome use the ssh client? Does it use a library and read the 'config' first time?
[12:45] <theine> navarone, it's a revision control system for code management
[12:45] <mwe> wogi: the sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/gforge-db-post<tab> <enter>
[12:45] <Stormx2> navarone: svn, from my understanding its a way of running two versions of a package at the same time.
[12:45] <wogi> mwe: did it put it in that /var/cache dir..?
[12:45] <navarone> ...ahhh...over my head...lol
[12:45] <wogi> mwe: k
[12:46] <mwe> wogi: then sudo dpkg --purge gforge-db-postgresql
[12:46] <theine> pschulz01, it probably reads the config, yes
[12:46] <kairu0> i have an irq sharing problem. my sound and network card want to share the same irq. how can i fix this?
[12:46] <wogi> mwe: The install is failing due to absent /etc/init.d/postgresql
[12:46] <theine> pschulz01, what exactly Gnome it does under the hood I don't know...
[12:47] <mwe> wogi: even with --force-all?
[12:47] <nekostar> gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[12:47] <nekostar> what does that mean theine ?
[12:47] <wogi> mwe: yeah :(
[12:47] <nekostar> i was trying to check manual on it and its fuxaserwerweord
[12:47] <nekostar> i think i messed something up somewhere lol
[12:47] <theine> nekostar, what does what mean?
[12:47] <wogi> mwe: dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/gforge-db-postgresql_3.1-31_all.deb
[12:47] <nekostar> gzip: stdout: No space left on device <<--
[12:47] <wogi> mwe: Its right, isn't it?
[12:48] <nekostar> man: command '/bin/gzip -dc /usr/share/man/man1/md5sum.1.gz' failed with exit status 256
[12:48] <theine> nekostar, that probably means that your hard drive is full...
[12:48] <nekostar> thats the rest of the error
[12:48] <nekostar> nope not at
[12:48] <nekostar> o: the root hdd
[12:48] <mwe> wogi: sudo it
[12:48] <nekostar> yeah
[12:48] <pschulz01> theine: I'm gessing that it would be the 'gnome-volume-manager' that does the 'stuff'
[12:48] <wogi> mwe: well I was naughty and sudo su'd earlier.. But I will.
[12:48] <nekostar> is there a way to increase the size of my root hdd?
[12:48] <theine> nekostar, clear /tmp or something...
[12:49] <mwe> wogi: that's ok
[12:49] <theine> pschulz01, if that's the same as gnome-vfs, then probably yes
[12:49] <nekostar> yeah thats a fix for now./..
[12:50] <pschulz01> theine: I'm looking at the output from 'ps'. What is the ... ah nautilus
[12:50] <theine> pschulz01, yes
[12:50] <wogi> mwe: we're trying all the forceful things aren't we.. :/ Maybe there's some manual way I can remove it..
[12:51] <mwe> wogi: I'd go over man dpkg. there are other options
[12:51] <wogi> mwe: kk
[12:51] <yanis> hello
[12:51] <mwe> wogi: I just told you what usually works for me
[12:51] <yanis> can anybody help me with ssh authentication with rsa keys.......
[12:51] <theine> pschulz01, by the way, you might want to have a look at http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html . That's really cool
[12:51] <tech9iner> navarone rulz ;] ] ..
[12:52] <jp-> is there a meta package that install xorg, all the drivers and libs required to configure and run it? i've tried xorg-common xserver-xorg-core... still i cannot configure the X server, it dies with Missing output drivers
[12:52] <theine> pschulz01, you are then able to access files on a remote server both through nautilus and command line as if they existed on your local system
[12:52] <Pygi> tech: well, you can use root...
[12:52] <bimberi> jp-: xserver-xorg ?
[12:52] <Pygi> but not advisable
[12:52] <jp-> in debian there was an x-window-system meta package that did it.
[12:52] <jp-> no, have that one installed too.
[12:53] <edoardo> hi gals, hi dudes : )
[12:53] <edoardo> you guys
[12:53] <theine> pschulz01, don't know how X forwarding is handled in that case though
[12:53] <mwe> tech9iner: just use sudo -i if you need a root prompt
[12:53] <tech9iner> how does one access root Pygi .. and thanks chap for input fwiw ;] ] .. via konsole/terminal ?..
[12:53] <edoardo> you guys, i'm havin' trouble with gnome-volume-manager, hal, and such. like, when i connect my usb key, ain't scsi.agent supposed to pop up and do somethin'? cause it don't appear in /var/log/messages to me! help! : ) thankyou! : )
[12:53] <navarone> tech9iner, don't applaud ...throw money
[12:53] <tech9iner> mwe: coolness.. thanx
[12:53] <michael__> What do I add to the repository to make it take from the CD as well?
[12:54] <Pygi> tech9iner: well, first set a pass using "sudo root passwd"
[12:54] <pschulz01> theine: Looking in '/proc/<process-id>' for nautilus.. 'cat maps' I can see that the 'libsftp' library is being used...
[12:54] <Pygi> then u can login as root
[12:54] <Pygi> ubotu tell tech9iner about root
[12:54] <mwe> but that not needed when you can just sudo -i to get a root shell
[12:54] <bimberi> jp-: x-window-system-core ?
[12:54] <Pygi> tech: lol :P
[12:55] <theine> pschulz01, I see...
[12:55] <navarone> I hope that's American money...<s>
[12:55] <pschulz01> theine: I don't see why it would need to be used either... unless it is needed for mime-types?
[12:55] <jp-> bimberi: yes, that one too.
[12:55] <pschulz01> theine: X11 that is.
[12:55] <bimberi> jp-: ok, i'll give up now :P
[12:55] <tech9iner> hell.. got me printing overhead down to just .065 per sheet.. wthell i say.. share w the community ;] ] .. livn up to ubuntu is all lol
[12:55] <edoardo> you guys? help with hotplug! : )
[12:56] <Pygi> bye all people
[12:56] <jp-> yeah, i give up too.
[12:56] <CodenameKT> bye
[12:56] <Pygi> see ya
[12:56] <jp-> later on
[12:56] <tech9iner> ciao 4 now Pygi ;] 
[12:56] <theine> pschulz01, wait a minute... you're right of course. Why would it need X forwarding? The PDF viewer runs locally after all...
[12:56] <joedj> hi folks, i have what's essentially a KDE question (running kubuntu), but #kde is not helping. attempting to get a borderless window, i set konsole's window type to dock. now konsole can't get the focus at all, so i can't change it back by accessing the Alt+F3 window menu or anything. how can i use konsole again?
[12:57] <duckdown> Are there more current versions of ubuntu than 5.10 ?
[12:57] <phoghawk> duckdown, no
[12:57] <joedj> i have about 10 konsole windows open that i was actively working in, so it would be nice if i can fix this without reinstalling my OS ;-)
[12:57] <bimberi> !dapper
[12:57] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[12:57] <phoghawk> duckdown, not until April
[12:57] <duckdown> phoghawk its not like Debian Stable using really old software is it?
[12:58] <phoghawk> phoghawk, I have no idea. I just know when the next version is coming out
[12:58] <yanis> do I need to use any special option when I run ssh client and I want to authenticate with rsa keys?
[12:58] <theine> pschulz01, it's too late for me thinking properly...
[12:58] <CodenameKT> duckdown: no it will use the latest ver if it can
[12:58] <navarone> hmm...I just found a webpage  entry with someone telling how they got ipod nano working if anyone is interested http://www.ubuntux.org/forums/ubuntu-linux/installation-0    <--- scroll down
[12:58] <pschulz01> theine: Hmmm tricky... Thanks for your thoughts.
[12:58] <duckdown> CodenameKT I hope so.. Debian-STABLE is way too old
[12:58] <mwe> yanis: you need the authorized_keys to contain your public key
[12:59] <duckdown> thanks.
[12:59] <CodenameKT> duckdown: np
[12:59] <pschulz01> theine: Where are you?
[12:59] <yanis> mwe: I have done that.it still askes me for password.
[12:59] <mwe> yanis: and go over /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[12:59] <boogie> has anybody seen king kong yet?
[12:59] <CodenameKT> yes i dled it
[12:59] <mwe> yanis: because that's the first method it tries I guess
[12:59] <CodenameKT> boogie: nice fx
[01:00] <yanis> mwe: no its the last according to the man ssh
[01:00] <mwe> yanis: I don't know then
[01:00] <viecili> hi all, i just want to enable the latin keyboard behavior. can anyone help me?
[01:00] <boogie> was it as good as they say it is?
[01:00] <yanis> mwe: do I need to change anything in sshd_config?
[01:00] <navarone> CodenameKT, Peter Jackson doesn't look like the same person though...he has lost a lot of weight since LOTR
[01:00] <theine> pschulz01, you mean physically?
[01:00] <CodenameKT> boogie: i don't know what the say it was but i think it was a decent movie to go see it again in theatres
[01:01] <boogie> thanks
[01:01] <CodenameKT> boogie: np
[01:01] <tech9iner> k mates.. riddle me this please
[01:01] <CodenameKT> that was a little off tpic tho
[01:01] <theine> pschulz01, in any case, I would suggest you try sshfs
[01:02] <viecili> hi all, i just want to enable the latin keyboard behavior. can anyone help me? (~a "u 'e `a)
[01:02] <tech9iner> in logged in under new username i created via rescue from install cd since i fckd up my 1st ever username/pw somehow ;[.. but the only sudo approved user is the one lost now..
[01:02] <tech9iner> so..
[01:02] <tech9iner> how doth one work round this bugger please..
[01:02] <tech9iner> thanks
[01:03] <tech9iner> ??? is not in the duoers file. this incident will be reported.... is all im getting mates..
[01:03] <Mace> how come ubuntu installation doesnt let me choose which PARTITION to install in, but only HARD DRIVE?
[01:03] <theine> pschulz01, a simple "apt-get install sshfs" will get you in shape
[01:03] <mwe> Mace: it does. just don't choose default
[01:04] <michael__> what line do I add to sources.list to make it look on the install CD????
[01:04] <pschulz01> theine: On the client or server?
[01:04] <janoli> apt-cdrom add creo pschulz01
[01:04] <janoli> i think
[01:05] <tech9iner> i need root access to reset or edit installation cd's 1st username / pw config i buggered..
[01:05] <pschulz01> janoli: ???
[01:05] <theine> pschulz01, on the client
[01:05] <edoardo> you guys
[01:05] <michael__> E: Type 'apt-cdrom' is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:05] <edoardo> do you have a scsi.rc file in your system?
[01:06] <wogi> mwe: do yo uthink the --nocheck option from dpkg-deb might help me?
[01:06] <joanne> having trouble with dual booot of ubuntu and os 9 yaboot configured  to dual boot added the line macos line and ran ybin? hit m in yaboot promt and go to flashing qestion mark.
[01:06] <joanne> anybody know what to do?
[01:07] <michael__> can ne1 help me?
[01:07] <wogi> michael: Uhm. I'm really a bad person to get help from. but can you comment out that line for now?
[01:07] <pschulz01> theine: That works better  :-)
[01:08] <michael__> I need the debconf package - how can i get it installed?
[01:08] <Monk> hi people. Now I know this is a seemingly random question, but... does anyone know anyone in Poland?
[01:08] <crimsun> michael__: install it.
[01:08] <wogi> michael__: Can you do apt-get update, apt-get install debconf?
[01:08] <michael__> http://pastebin.com/498560
[01:09] <theine> pschulz01, yeah, I felt that I was living under rock when I learned that sshfs existed...
[01:09] <mwe> wogi: try it
[01:09] <Monk> preferably linux fans
[01:09] <michael__> there's my problem -^ that link
[01:09] <nalioth> joanne: what line did you add in yaboot.conf for macos ?
[01:09] <joanne> the line that is in the yaboot file suggested with partiton # for os 9 location
[01:10] <edoardo> can anyone help me settin' hotplug up?
[01:10] <Monk> no Polish conections?
[01:10] <nalioth> joanne: can you pastebin your yaboot.conf and the output of "sudo fdisk -l" please
[01:10] <gah000> what is the program for partitioning
[01:10] <joanne> i'll try will take me a bit
[01:10] <nalioth> gah000: you can use gparted
[01:10] <gah000> thanks
[01:11] <LiNoH> does somebody help me please..
[01:11] <mwe> !helpme
[01:11] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[01:11] <michael__> !helpme - question above
[01:11] <ubotu> michael__: I give up, what is it?
[01:11] <LiNoH> if i use hoary, i can upgrade it to breezy only changing repositories?
[01:11] <wogi> michael__: Eep. I wonder what is in that file /var/lib/dpkg/status ?
[01:11] <michael__> hon, i get
[01:11] <hikenboot> is there an environment variable for specifying the python version such as export python=python2.3  ?
[01:12] <mwe> LiNoH: you should be able to
[01:12] <nalioth> hikenboot: there is if you specify one
[01:12] <mwe> LiNoH: it broke for me though
[01:12] <allan_> hey, is there a python IDE preinstalled on Ubuntu?
[01:12] <hikenboot> what do you mean nalioth...?
[01:13] <mwe> allan_: not preinstalled I think
[01:13] <hikenboot> what is the environment variable ????
[01:13] <nalioth> hikenboot: you have a .bashrc in your home directory. you can set any environment variables there that you desire
[01:13] <Cintia> hello: How Can I configure my linux as client??????
[01:13] <allan_> is there one you can download? if so, whats the name?
[01:13] <mwe> Cintia: client for what?
[01:13] <Cintia> network
[01:13] <nalioth> allan_: 'eric' is in the repos
[01:13] <hikenboot> right i realize that but  i am trying to specify one specifically for python...so would the varialble be called python ?
[01:14] <LiNoH> how is the most secure method to upgrade hoary to breezy? if i use only hoary repositories i will de updated? or the breezy has latest packs and hoary not?
[01:14] <Cintia> the pc w winxp will be the server
[01:14] <mwe> Cintia: you want to mount a windows share or what?
[01:14] <nalioth> hikenboot: idk about python stuff, you may google "export python bashrc" or something like that
[01:14] <hikenboot> ok thanks
[01:14] <nalioth> ubotu: tell LiNoH about breezy
[01:14] <Cintia> I want to linux x xp in network
[01:14] <wogi> mwe: Ok. I noticed in upper right corner that I had updates. Clicked on it and it told me to update postgres. Exclaimed "Oh i found a broken pkg!" did some stuff, and now the problem is all gone.. I wonder if I dare try uninstalling postgres. . . >:)
[01:14] <Cintia> and share the internet connection
[01:15] <Cintia> but the dsl modem is connected to the xp
[01:15] <LiNoH> nalioth: thakns
[01:15] <LiNoH> thanks*
[01:15] <madewokherd> hikenboot: you can use $PYTHONSTARTUP to specify a file that python executes when it starts
[01:15] <mwe> Cintia: well configure windows and you dhclient from linux I guess
[01:15] <allan_> what exactly are universe and multiverse?
[01:15] <Cintia> should be samba,shouldn't it?
[01:15] <mwe> wogi: oh
[01:15] <nalioth> allan_: repositories holding packages with non free /other patent encumbered pkgs
[01:16] <Cintia> I have another computer w xp conected to the server
[01:16] <mwe> wogi: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade would probably have fixed it then
[01:16] <allan_> when i was looking at installing some things, it said make sure to install universe/multiverse first
[01:16] <Cintia> I just need to set the linux. I was told I had to set the samba
[01:16] <mwe> wogi: I thinks it's safe to sudo apt-get remove postgresql now
[01:16] <allan_> is there a point to that?
[01:17] <wogi> mwe: i So love this distribution.
[01:17] <irvin> allan_, yes there is
[01:17] <cyphase> at the end of an article about Vista at CES
[01:17] <cyphase> "But I think that what most people want from the next Windows isn't more stuff added, but rather stuff to be taken away--like crashes, lockups, viruses, error messages and security holes."
[01:17] <allan_> does it cost money though?
[01:17] <mwe> wogi: did you interupt apt or synaptic at some point since it broke?
[01:17] <nalioth> allan_: yes, you'll need universe and multiverse, they offer over 10,000 more programs for you
[01:17] <nalioth> allan_: no it does not.
[01:17] <irvin> allan_, no it's comes free of charge
[01:17] <navarone> wogi...this beats the socks off any mandrake I have used (dunno if that says much tho...)
[01:18] <wogi> mwe: I don't think so. But I went to apt-get remove postgres I'm back to cannot open somesuch file, it isn't there.  hehe interesting.
[01:18] <allan_> so you guys recommend installing universe and multiverse anyways?
[01:18] <LiNoH> why ubuntu don't create a central repository? like debian (stable/testing/unstable)
[01:18] <Cintia> that is it?
[01:18] <mwe> wogi: annoying
[01:18] <navarone> allan you don't install universe and multiverse...you enable them so that you can install packages that are in those repos
[01:18] <wogi> mwe: so I try to remove it, and now the gforge-db-postgresql errors are back, but in the upper right hand corner is that red icon that I'm sure when I click on is going to tell me to update postgres..
[01:19] <mwe> wogi: and you can't sudo apt-get --reinstall install it?
[01:19] <nalioth> allan_: yes, certainly enable uni and multi
[01:19] <LiNoH> instead of a rep to wwarty, other to hoary, other to breezy..
[01:19] <allan_> ohhhh
[01:19] <allan_> ok
[01:19] <allan_> thanks a lot
[01:19] <nalioth> LiNoH: because we're not debian
[01:19] <navarone> allan multi and uni have a lot of packages that you may find useful or neccessary
[01:19] <mwe> wogi: maybe try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:20] <LiNoH> but i didnt want to say to be a debian..
[01:20] <LiNoH> but to create a central repository with all upgrades
[01:20] <Cintia> somebody here knows how to set a network - linux x windows?
[01:20] <allan_> one question though, why do they call multiverse non free?
[01:20] <michael> sorry, got disconnected
[01:21] <Need_urgent_help> hi, anyone got a sec?
[01:21] <michael> where was i?
[01:21] <michael> heck, i'll find it
[01:21] <gpm> hey folks. i was wondering if i might be able to get a newer version of logjam here on breezy? the one i have doesn't do tags. yes i've updated and dist-upgraded
[01:22] <navarone> allan probably because the licences for the software in multi are not covered under gpl or open source agreements...so they are not technically free
[01:22] <madewokherd> allan_: I would assume they mean it's not free software (which means more than being available free of charge)
[01:22] <mwe> wogi: then sudo apt-get --reinstall install postgresql. did you try that. then sudo apt-get --purge remove postgresql
[01:22] <LiNoH> why i cant change resolution to 1024x768? i edited xorg.conf but it don't supports.. ubuntu was the only that didnt supported.. kubuntu breezy supported too
[01:22] <LiNoH> it was because was ubuntu live?
[01:22] <navarone> madewokherd, your nick is gonna give me nightmares...<s>
[01:22] <mwe> !tell LiNoH about fixres
[01:22] <wogi> mwe: actually the update/dist-upgrade did Not work (just fyi)
[01:22] <Need_urgent_help> what do you do if X wont start, and you cant even login?
[01:22] <madewokherd> what's wrong with woks?
[01:23] <mwe> LiNoH: read /msg from ubotu
[01:23] <mwe> wogi: what failed?
[01:23] <mwe> wogi: pastebin errors
[01:24] <joanne> ## yaboot.conf generated by the Ubuntu installer
[01:24] <joanne> ##
[01:24] <joanne> ## run: "man yaboot.conf" for details. Do not make changes until you have!!
[01:24] <joanne> ## see also: /usr/share/doc/yaboot/examples for example configurations.
[01:24] <joanne> ##
[01:24] <joanne> ## For a dual-boot menu, add one or more of:
[01:24] <joanne> ## bsd=/dev/hdaX, macos=/dev/hdaY, macosx=/dev/hdaZ
[01:24] <joanne> boot=/dev/hda6
[01:24] <joanne> device=/pci@80000000/mac-io@10/ide@20000/disk@0:
[01:24] <joanne> partition=8
[01:24] <wogi> mwe what does that mean, pastebin errors?
[01:24] <mwe> !tell wogi about pastebin
[01:24] <mwe> wogi: read /msg from ubotu
[01:25] <nalioth> Cintia: ask in the channel please, i don't accept PMs
[01:25] <Cintia> I've asked many times
[01:26] <mwe> Cintia: you shouldn't pm without permission no matter what
[01:26] <Cintia> what?
[01:26] <nalioth> Cintia: we are not ignoring you, but if you get no answers, it's highly likely nobody knows atm
[01:26] <damotor> hello
[01:26] <kairu0> i have an irq sharing problem. my sound and network card want to share the same irq. how can i fix this?
[01:26] <gpm> is dapper safe to use? more or less?
[01:27] <Cintia> ok guys, tks anyway
[01:27] <nalioth> gpm: not for your production machine, no
[01:27] <damotor> do u know how can I convert from a firewire video source (/dev/raw1394) to a v4l source (/dev/video0)?
[01:27] <holy_cow> dapper installer is weird, lots of strange errors *hmmm*
[01:27] <gpm> nalioth: so, it's more or less like using sid on debian?
[01:27] <holy_cow> time to help out with some of the bugs
[01:27] <wogi> mwe: I think you want this?: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6859
[01:27] <joanne>         #                    type name                 length   base     ( size )  system
[01:27] <joanne> /dev/hda1     Apple_partition_map Apple                    63 @ 1        ( 31.5k)  Partition map
[01:27] <joanne> /dev/hda2        Apple_Driver_ATA Macintosh                54 @ 64       ( 27.0k)  Unknown
[01:27] <joanne> /dev/hda3        Apple_Driver_ATA Macintosh                74 @ 118      ( 37.0k)  Unknown
[01:27] <joanne> /dev/hda4      Apple_Driver_IOKit Macintosh               512 @ 192      (256.0k)  Unknown
[01:27] <joanne> /dev/hda5           Apple_Patches Patch Partition         512 @ 704      (256.0k)  Unknown
[01:27] <joanne> /dev/hda6         Apple_Bootstrap untitled               1954 @ 1216     (977.0k)  NewWorld bootblock
[01:27] <joanne> /dev/hda7               Apple_HFS untitled 2         30306304 @ 9826189  ( 14.5G)  HFS
[01:28] <mwe> nalioth: thanks
[01:28] <nalioth> joanne: visit paste.ubuntulinux.nl and paste both of those things please
[01:28] <nalioth> ubotu: tell joanne about paste
[01:28] <nalioth> joanne: or the URL ubotu just sent you
[01:29] <MrRio> anyone know how to make java apps take on my gtk theme like they do in fedora?
[01:29] <martin_> Need some help - I messed up: I was trying to make an ext2 volume that I plugged in writable, so I typed "sudo chmod og=rw /mnt/data"...  Now I can only see the top level directory and files but the system does not know what they are, so it seems that I have lost all of the data on that drive.  How can I fix this?
[01:30] <MattwestM> ok, what do I need to put in the grub.conf file to get ubuntu 5.10 to boot. I just installed it and I am using Fedora's grub
[01:30] <mwe> wogi: now that postgresql is installed try apt-get dist-upgrade again
[01:32] <wogi> mwe: It says its up to date. :)
[01:33] <mwe> wogi: so no broken things anymore I guess?
[01:33] <StringBlade> all: a little help with apt-get and python2.4?  I screwed up and got rid of python2.4 and now it says it can't configure it if I try to install again
[01:33] <nalioth> StringBlade: in a terminal, type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[01:33] <wogi> mwe: hehe until I type apt-get remove gforge-db-postgres or apt-get remove postgres i imagine.
[01:33] <mwe> wogi: go ahead and apt-get remove gforge-db-postgresql if you like
[01:34] <mwe> wogi: I doubt it will break now
[01:34] <mwe> wogi: if it does pastebin the errors
[01:34] <StringBlade> nalioth: says 0 packages to upgrade
[01:34] <wogi> mwe: au contraire.
[01:34] <wogi> mwe: mkay.
[01:34] <sexcopter8000m> if i have a mass of files in a hierarchy of folders, is there a means of finding duplicates? i mean like spotting identical md5sums or something?
[01:34] <nalioth> StringBlade: then "sudo apt-get -f install python2.4" or w/e the name of the pkg was
[01:34] <LiNoH> where goes window border themes in home folder?
[01:35] <LiNoH> icons to .icons.. themes to .themes..
[01:35] <StringBlade> > Compiling python modules in /usr/lib/python2.4 ...
[01:35] <StringBlade> > /usr/bin/python2.4: can't open file '/usr/lib/python2.4/compileall.py': [Errno 2]  No such file or directory
[01:35] <wogi> mwe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6861
[01:35] <holy_cow> http://www.linuxedge.org/?q=node/40  <-- filezilla on linux?
[01:35] <MattwestM> all: ok, what do I need to put in the grub.conf file to get ubuntu 5.10 to boot. I just installed it and I am using Fedora's grub
[01:35] <holy_cow> oh thats neat, finally a competitor to gftp
[01:35] <nalioth> StringBlade: sudo apt-get install --reinstall python2.4
[01:35] <StringBlade> nalioth: same problem
[01:36] <michael> http://pastebin.com/498560 - http://pastebin.com/498607
[01:36] <StringBlade> nalioth: clearly it's missing something it needs and doesn't know how to install it
[01:36] <nalioth> StringBlade: i'm out of ideas at this point.
[01:36] <michael> adding "1.13.10 (i386)" to version
[01:37] <mwe> wogi: this is getting over my head. maybe nailoth knows. it looks like it expects postgresql to be running I don't know if starting postgresql would help
[01:37] <tonisius> how do i not use sudo?
[01:37] <tonisius> i want to use the real su
[01:37] <StringBlade> nalioth: got it...sudo apt-get --reinstall python2.4-minimal
[01:37] <Seveas> StringBlade, did you install python2.4-dev?
[01:37] <tonisius> and what the hell is the password to get on as root?
[01:38] <athlon> tonisius, sudo su
[01:38] <mwe> wogi: is this breezy?
[01:38] <tonisius> no
[01:38] <tonisius> without using sudo
[01:38] <tonisius> is there a such thing?
[01:38] <athlon> sudo su then passwd
[01:38] <tonisius> no
[01:38] <tonisius> without using sudo
[01:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tonisius about root
[01:38] <wogi> mwe: yes breezy badger.
[01:38] <nalioth> tonisius: read your PM from ubotu
[01:38] <tonisius> nalioth: thank you
[01:38] <Seveas> wogi, is gforge-db-postgresql still running?
[01:38] <Seveas> wogi, if not: start it
[01:39] <Seveas> en then try the removal
[01:39] <wogi> Seveas: Welll.. I'm not really sure how to start it. It was a component of gforge. Which Never installed properly.
[01:39] <Seveas> wogi, ah
[01:39] <wogi> Seveas: I can try starting Postgres tho.
[01:39] <Seveas> wogi, please do
[01:39] <Seveas> I think that's the problem
[01:40] <wogi> seveas: alright its failing to start. Let me check the logs.
[01:40] <zblach> hi. quick question. my keyboard is not listed under keyboard layout options. can I add it somehow?
[01:40] <coz> hey guys
[01:41] <wogi> seveas: hmm.. tcp/ip connections must be enabled for ssl.... I wonder if it wants me to open up my firewall for postgres ports..
[01:41] <MattwestM>  all: ok, what do I need to put in the grub.conf file to get ubuntu 5.10 to boot. I just installed it and I am using Fedora's grub
[01:41] <coz> I have an old hp 820c deskjet printer that is recognized by ubuntu but will not work] 
[01:41] <coz> any suggestions
[01:41] <fm-2> Good evening all!
[01:42] <zblach> regardless of what I try, i still have half a dozen dead keys
[01:42] <fm-2> I was wondering if someone could help me with a boot-up script. Mainly, at what S* is the filesystem (/proc/) mounted?
[01:43] <Seveas> fm-2, my guess is mountall.sh in rcS.d
[01:43] <zblach> and the kb is brand new
[01:43] <freak_> anyone know where the ubuntu equivelent of the xinitrc file is?
[01:44] <joanne> i pasted it over where you said nalioth, but i don't know what happens to it or to me then. do i go over there to see a response or hang out here?
[01:44] <nalioth> joanne: bring us the URL to the page you pasted it into
[01:44] <fm-2> Seveas: right, and S7xorg-common is what starts up X, right?
[01:44] <fm-2> (add a 0 after S7)
[01:45] <tonisius> nalioth: thanks for the link, now i can do things as needed
[01:45] <joanne> okay here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6862
[01:45] <freak_> anyone know where xinitrc is? the X11 startup list
[01:45] <theverant> so... ok... I'm trying out this Ubuntu thing... why did install not let me pick what packages I installed?
[01:45] <kameron> xfce is part of what package?
[01:45] <freak_> kameron, xfce4
[01:45] <bimberi> kameron: xfce4
[01:45] <kameron> freak_, thank you muchly
[01:45] <fm-2> theverant: Because Ubuntu only installs a base-system.
[01:46] <Seveas> kameron, xubuntu-desktop
[01:46] <theverant> uhh... how is Gnome games part of a base system though?
[01:46] <fm-2> theverant: You can use Synaptic to change your install (sudo synaptic)
[01:46] <wogi> Seveas: Hmm.. It looks like I need to have some SSH keys configured before it will start..
[01:46] <theverant> is that at install time?
[01:46] <wogi> Seveas: You're pretty sure this might be it?
[01:46] <theverant> or afterwards
[01:46] <fm-2> theverant: Beats me, I guess it's a 'basic operational system' :P
[01:46] <freak_> anyone know where xinitrc is?
[01:46] <kameron> !xubuntu-desktop
[01:46] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, kameron
[01:47] <navarone> joanne you are ona  mac right?
[01:47] <kameron> what's in that package other than just xfce, seveas?
[01:47] <bimberi> theverant: gnome is part of the default desktop install
[01:47] <Seveas> wogi, postgres should not need that...
[01:47] <fm-2> brb, gonna see if this mtrr fix works.
[01:47] <theverant> my other question was - why no root password?
[01:47] <nalioth> joanne: is this a new world mac?
[01:47] <bimberi> theverant: but not the "server" install
[01:47] <joanne> yes imac g3 333 tray loader
[01:47] <bimberi> ubotu tell theverant about root
[01:47] <Seveas> !tell theverant about root
[01:47] <nalioth> theverant: security reason
[01:47] <kameron> theverant, sevurity reasons.
[01:47] <wogi> Seveas: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/interactive/ssl-tcp.html
[01:47] <mwe> wogi: you can't dpkg --force-all --purge gforge-db-postgresql then dpkg --force-all --purge postgresql to get rid of it?
[01:47] <Seveas> theverant, read the wikipage ubotu sends
[01:47] <joanne> yes new world
[01:47] <theverant> ah ok, thanks!
[01:47] <Seveas> ah, ss*L* keys
[01:47] <nalioth> joanne: can you access os9 by holding the alt-option key and selecting the os9 partition?
[01:47] <Seveas> btw, I work with 7.4, not 8 :/
[01:47] <freak_> anyone know where the X11 startup program list is? (xinit)
[01:48] <wogi> Seveas: Thats where I'm getting the idea from, because the only thing in the postgres logs when it failed when I trie dto start it was: /usr/lib/postgresql/7.4/bin/postmaster: TCP/IP connections must be enabled for SSL
[01:48] <theverant> this channel is way more active than #mandriva (the last distro I tested out)
[01:48] <joanne> you mean when i start up?
[01:48] <fm-2> theverant: Welcome to Ubuntu :)
[01:48] <theverant> tanx
[01:48] <theverant> I'm still not %100 sure about linux
[01:49] <theverant> but after a month windows free it's hard to justify going back, despite the quirks I'm finding
[01:49] <grateful> what command do you issue to tell ubuntu where your dvd drive is?
[01:49] <mwe> wogi: you can't dpkg --force-all --purge gforge-db-postgresql then dpkg --force-all --purge postgresql to get rid of it?
[01:49] <fm-2> grateful: sudo mount?
[01:49] <wogi> mwe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6863
[01:49] <bimberi> freak_: locate xinit    ?
[01:49] <navarone> thereverant> I still use windows for some things...but I check maila nd do most surfing in ubuntu now...feels safer
[01:49] <CosmoDad> what would I need to do to make another user be capable of shutting down the machine, going into standby, etc. without him being able to sudo to root?
[01:50] <freak_> bimberi, locate is a command?
[01:50] <grateful> but how do you create the link to your DVD
[01:50] <nalioth> joanne: yes, when the chime sounds, hold the alt-option key until you get boot options
[01:50] <bimberi> freak_: yes
[01:50] <theverant> navarone - dual boot is not an option for me
[01:50] <wogi> Seveas: heh ooops. yeah..
[01:50] <fm-2> grateful: It's there... after mount, it'll be in the /media/ folder
[01:50] <theverant> I want something fully functional or not at all
[01:50] <wogi> Seveas: Let me try to figure out how to make these key things, and i'll get back to you..
[01:50] <grateful> k thx
[01:50] <fm-2> grateful: /media/cdrom, I do believe
[01:50] <navarone> thereverant...then you have come to the right place for guidance then should you need it
[01:50] <MrRio> grateful: doesnt it do this 'automagicaly'?
[01:50] <mwe> wogi: what the heck. it's like a virus it wont go away :|
[01:50] <Seveas> wogi, probably not, I'm goging to sleep :)
[01:50] <joanne> okay i'll try that and come back thanks
[01:51] <grateful> checking
[01:51] <bimberi> CosmoDad: you can configure sudo to only work for particular commands - man sudoers (although google will be a better option)
[01:51] <wogi> Seveas: Probably not..?
[01:51] <wogi> Seveas: Oh, and thanks for the help, goodnight!
[01:51] <mwe> wogi: I know you can manually manipulate the apt database but I don't know how or if you dare do it
[01:51] <theverant> Is Dapper Drake stable?  It's what I've installed... I guess I'll find out the hard way :)
[01:52] <CodenameKT> !dapper
[01:52] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[01:52] <bimberi> theverant: no - you are now an alpha tester :)
[01:52] <wogi> mwe: :/ I really love this computer. except for this weird thing.. I could probbbably just live with postgres on there..but..urgh. kinda irritating huh.
[01:52] <theverant> so pretty much like running WinXP, eh
[01:52] <bimberi> lol
[01:52] <nics_> theverant: depends what you use it for, fine for me at present though flashplayer plugin for firefox nows causes it to crash
[01:52] <CosmoDad> bimberi: that wouldn't make the shutdown options show up in KDE's menu, unfortunately
[01:52] <theverant> nics_ - I want to use it for GIMP mostly
[01:53] <wogi> mwe: You mentioned someone you thought might have ideas..? nalioth ?
[01:53] <theverant> I would like to find decent video editing too, which I guess would be Cinelerra
[01:53] <theverant> other than that it's just gravy :)
[01:53] <nalioth> wogi: seveas is more knowledgable than i on this subject, but i agree with him.
[01:53] <nics_> theverant: has been fine for me with gimp, though just down screenshots and a few touchups, the thing to remember is that is is ALPHA, all bets are off :-)
[01:53] <bimberi> CosmoDad: no, it's about access to shell command.  Not sure about how _that's_ done sorry
[01:53] <theverant> nics_ -praps I should go back to last stable
[01:54] <theverant> which uses less resources - Gnome or KDE?
[01:54] <CosmoDad> bimberi: yeah I know, I just wanna restrict root right but enable hibernating. anyways, thx
[01:55] <nics_> theverant: always an option or just make sure you save all work often just in case, filesystems are rock solid but the odd app may suddenly break as things get upgraded, like flash in firefox at present
[01:55] <wogi> nalioth: mkay. But he's sleeping. :)
[01:55] <MrRio> theverant: my opinion is gnome, but the differences in resouces are negligable
[01:55] <bimberi> theverant: another video editor is kino
[01:55] <nalioth> wogi: he answered you with the same things i would have
[01:55] <MrRio> the clearlooks theme engine on gnome (ubuntu default) is lightning fast
[01:55] <theverant> bimberi - I don't think Kino will cut it for my uses :)
[01:56] <theverant> though I heard Cinelerra sux for capture, so I will probably use it for that
[01:56] <freak_> anyone know if you can pass terminal command in the fluxbox init file?
[01:56] <bimberi> theverant: k :)
[01:56] <theverant> bimberi - I like compositing and special effects :)
[01:56] <wogi> nalioth: to get postgres starting properly, and then to try removing it again, right..?
[01:56] <CodenameKT> freak_: i pass some term commands through the style
[01:56] <CodenameKT> freak_: the default style that loads
[01:57] <hikenboot> anyone know what the python-dev package is I did an sudo apt-cache search python  | grep -i dev and dont see one
[01:57] <nalioth> freak_: in your init "bash command_goes_here &"
[01:57] <navarone> theverant, do you have enough free space for that kind of work...for swap I mean?
[01:57] <freak_> CodenameKT, so like "bash pypanel &" ?
[01:58] <CodenameKT> freak_: yes that is what nalioth said
[01:58] <theverant> navarone - I have a WD Raptor for system, a 200GB, and a removable 250GB that I can swap in as many drives as I need for backup purposes... so... yes... I think... :)
[01:58] <bimberi> !info python-dev
[01:58] <ubotu> python-dev: (Header files and a static library for Python (default)), section python, is optional. Version: 2.4.2-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[01:58] <hikenboot> sorry mean glibc-dev what an idiot
[01:58] <CodenameKT> freak_: basically bash is letting it know it is term command and then u have the command plus & to let it know to keep reading rest of file
[01:58] <hikenboot> already found the python ones
[01:58] <freak_> CodenameKT, sorry, all i saw was red from xchat, didn't realize i was getting replies from 2 people
[01:58] <theverant> right now my actual swap size is not huge, but I can fix that if I need to
[01:58] <firebird619> I installed Ubuntu 5.10 about a month or so ago. I installed it over 5.04. Since then it seems that Ubuntu is slower than it was before the upgrade. Would it have been better to do a clean install of 5.10 rather than installing it over 5.04?
[01:59] <navarone> theverant, I'll be waiting to see your first feature...lol
[01:59] <CodenameKT> freak_: My reply sounded rude but yeah I was implying that it wasn't me with the correct answer :o)
[01:59] <freak_> CodenameKT, & really means run as background process :-p, heh
[01:59] <theverant> navarone - I make shorts :) you'll be waiting a while :)
[01:59] <holy_cow> btw dudes, ubuntu breezy is a smash success in our pilot.  just got back our reports, they only complaint at all has been that they arent' familiar with open office
[02:00] <holy_cow> for us we can just upgrade to ubuntu from windows and no ones the wiser essentially
[02:00] <holy_cow> yey for mark and the ubuntu team :)
[02:00] <navarone> theverant, animated or real life?
[02:00] <CodenameKT> freak_: I thought it was a continue or like an and so that it keeps reading the next lines like if I were to have two commands i needed to run
[02:00] <punkrockguy318> How can I change the usplash decoration from kubuntu to ubuntu?
[02:00] <theverant> navarone - real life in the past, but I'm working on a stop motion animation right now
[02:00] <theverant> it's a surreal character sketch
[02:01] <boxy> hey if i compile my own kernel say 2.6.15 i wont have a problem with the modules in the repos such as nvidia will i?
[02:01] <navarone> kinda like wallace and grommit...?
[02:01] <nalioth> firebird619: it really should make no difference (this isnt windows)
[02:01] <nalioth> boxy: you will probably have to recompile all modules
[02:01] <theverant> more like the Quay brothers... not so cutesie
[02:01] <freak_> CodenameKT, nah, its pretty cool, if you have 5 programs on startup, without the "&" with the first 4 it would just hang on each till you closed it, its basically multitasking
[02:02] <firebird619> nalioth: Yes, I know it isn't windows, it's much better than Windows, but I thought I would ask. Thanks
[02:02] <punkrockguy318> Will using a USB hub decrease USB preformance?
[02:02] <theverant> the protagonist sees Uncle Sam cut off Barbies face in a dark alley in one scene... :o !!
[02:02] <nalioth> firebird619: i've been running the same homedir since warty warthog, and havent had any trouble
[02:02] <boxy> nalioth, can i have apt-get do that and btw im trying to build a module and it fails at make before it even starts i take it im misisng some packages?
[02:03] <holy_cow> punkrockguy318, there is very little you can do to saturate a usb 2.0 port ... unless you are streaming video over it you don't have much to worry about
[02:03] <nalioth> boxy: have you gotten "build-essential" ?
[02:03] <joanne> can't get into 9 using alt/opt key at start up, selected the m and still go to folder with question mark. this morning i booted from os 9 cd. i do not have the disk selected as startup disk and in order to see anything on the desktop i had to mount the disk. it is a clean install and i have run the assistant for any apps. and more suggestions?
[02:03] <bimberi> theverant: LOL (but offtopic)
[02:03] <navarone> theverant, going for the heavy symbolism eh?
[02:03] <joanne> correction i have NOT run the assistant
[02:03] <B1zz> hello all i am trying to add a printer to my ubuntu system, how do i get the system to read the printer?
[02:04] <theverant> navarone - very much so.  All the character the protagonist comes across are actually extensions of his own persona
[02:04] <theverant> bimberi - sorry :)
[02:04] <nalioth> joanne: did the OS9 start before you did the yaboot modifications?
[02:05] <bimberi> theverant: np :)
[02:05] <navarone> Okay i am off to play Halo...if I see barbie I'll let her know you need her on set theverant ... : )
[02:05] <navarone> cya folkies take care
[02:06] <B1zz> hello all i am trying to add a printer to my ubuntu system, how do i get the system to read the printer?
[02:06] <joanne> yes, well actually i didn't go back into it after i installed 9. i just went ahead and installed ubuntu.
[02:06] <theverant> ooo it's the leaders debate... time to decide who to vote for in 14 days
[02:06] <bimberi> B1zz: System -> Administration -> Printing
[02:06] <nalioth> joanne: perhaps something went awry during the installation(s) ?
[02:07] <joanne> this is probably my 5th attempt to get both going together. the install of 9 proceed without incident? and so did ubuntu.
[02:07] <bobby> I ned to know how to install via graphics drivers under linux
[02:07] <nalioth> joanne: did you load os9 before you installed ubuntu?
[02:08] <bobby> is there a package for it?
[02:08] <joanne> yes
[02:08] <nalioth> joanne: did you run "sudo ybin" ?
[02:08] <joanne> yes, after i change the yaboot conf
[02:08] <Doomhammer> Why am I getting "Packet filtered" when attempting to ping some sites on the internet?
[02:08] <waxed> anyone here tried salome-platform an sucessfully installed it?...need som help here...
[02:09] <Doomhammer> i can ping www.google.com, but not www.newegg.com for example
[02:09] <nalioth> joanne: then you've puzzled me.
[02:09] <joanne> oh dear
[02:09] <bobby> Doomhammer, because the packet is filtered by a router along the way
[02:09] <joanne> i'm new to mac as well as linux
[02:09] <Doomhammer> bobby: as in my dsl gateway / router ?
[02:09] <nalioth> joanne: if you hold the alt-option key right after the chime, and don't have the option for os9 and linux, then perhaps the os9 partition got borked somehow?
[02:09] <bobby> Doomhammer, that is possible yes
[02:09] <joanne> should i go into 9 and let it be a startup disk?
[02:10] <wogi> Alright, thanks for all your help guys.. For some reason my postgres key and cert aren't really working so I can't start up pg but I need to get going for now. Thanks again!
[02:10] <Doomhammer> bobby: what else could it be ?
[02:10] <boxy> nalioth, yes build-essential is installed
[02:10] <nalioth> boxy: more information is needed (keep pastebin in mind)
[02:10] <bobby> Doomhammer, some isp's do it to avoid DDoS (a type of attack) attacks from happening from within their network
[02:10] <joanne> maybe start over. actually i'm waiting for 10.3 to arrive, and fear that's when trouble really starts
[02:10] <nalioth> joanne: i thought you said you couldnt get into os9?
[02:11] <boxy> oh wait nvm i see the prob sry Nakkel
[02:11] <boxy> nalioth, * sorry autocomplete
[02:11] <bobby> Doomhammer, if you got your dsl router preconfigured from your isp give them a ring and check it isn't a setting they have put in
[02:11] <joanne> i can get in using install disk
[02:11] <boxy> kay maybe i dont
[02:11] <boxy> wait
[02:11] <boxy> yeah
[02:11] <boxy> haha
[02:11] <Doomhammer> bobby: i got it preconfigured, but it's been reset and changed since...
[02:11] <nalioth> joanne: but that doesnt help your apparent yaboot prob
[02:11] <Doomhammer> bobby: i configured it myself, it's no longer using the factory defaults
[02:11] <Doomhammer> bobby: although, it is a piece of crap (actiontec) :O
[02:11] <boxy> hrm maybe not nalioth make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[02:11] <zblach> i know its a msft keyboard, but...
[02:11] <bobby> Doomhammer, then I suggest it isn't your router then - unless this started since you configured it yourself
[02:12] <Doomhammer> bobby: no, it didn't start, i haven't changed the config for months
[02:12] <joanne> i know i wish i could figure out what's going wrong, when it appears to be set up correctly
[02:12] <nalioth> boxy: you'll need linux-source and kernel-headers, moste likely
[02:12] <bobby> though it wouldn't be a linux problem unless you were running smoothwall or some thing... depends on your personal setup
[02:12] <Doomhammer> bobby: i'm thinking it might have something to do with my attempts to get networking running via QEMU
[02:12] <bobby> ask your isp is the easiest solution :)
[02:12] <P-NuT> Hey all can I ask questions about dapper drake here?
[02:12] <boxy> Package linux-source is a virtual package provided by:
[02:12] <boxy>   linux-source-2.6.12 2.6.12-10.25
[02:12] <bobby> Doomhammer, I've never had that problem before...and I've stuffed up networking many a time under qemu :P
[02:13] <boxy> which one i have 2.6.12-10 idk about .25 though?
[02:13] <Doomhammer> bobby: could "/sbin/ifconfig $1 172.20.0.1" be the culprit ?
[02:13] <robertj> P-NuT: this is _the_ place
[02:13] <P-NuT> LOL
[02:13] <P-NuT> ok
[02:13] <bobby> Doomhammer, does it happen for all things you ping in and outside your network?"
[02:13] <Doomhammer> bobby: no, as far as I can tell only www.newegg.com :S
[02:14] <bobby> Doomhammer, mmm confusing...out of ideas sorry - though I doubt it could be that ifconfig line
[02:14] <P-NuT> kickstart files and ubuntu, I want to make an CD that installs ubuntu and then installs a bunch of stuff via scripts. Can I include the kickstarat file on the CD?
[02:14] <nalioth> boxy: linux-source reflects your current kernel, iirc
[02:14] <boxy> 2.6.12-10-686
[02:14] <P-NuT> instead of using install CD and flopy with kickstart?
[02:14] <Doomhammer> bobby: yeah, it's almost certainly only newegg (216.52.208.185)... yahoo, google, dogpile, digg, and the verizon dns servers (4.2.2.1 + 4.2.2.2) all work :S
[02:15] <joanne> naioth, thanks for suggestions and letting me know what to do with paste bin etc. tomorrow is another day with new ideas maybe.
[02:15] <Doomhammer> bobby: maybe i'll try resetting eth0... :S
[02:15] <nalioth> joanne: yes it is
[02:15] <joanne> got to go for food, before it's time for indigestion. see again i hope
[02:15] <Doomhammer> bobby: nope, still the same thing
[02:16] <bobby> Doomhammer, just tried from here and I get packet filtered as well...I would suggest it is a routing issue or a anti-DDoS messaure on their end
[02:16] <Doomhammer> bobby: ah, good, so it's not my problem then. thanks :)
[02:16] <bobby> Doomhammer, I don't think it has anything to do with you :)
[02:16] <bobby> any time
[02:18] <p337> So, i got my sound and wireless drivers installed yesterday, they were working great.... i turn on my computer today............ neither works... why would that happen?
[02:19] <drcurl> Hello, I installed Ubuntu today and I'm impressed by the fact that everything works on my laptop :D
[02:19] <duckdown> Hey all.. I need to have /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build, but it doesn't exist on my new install.. what package do I need for those?
[02:19] <drcurl> But i have a few issues
[02:19] <bobby> drcurl, list them and we'll try to help :)
[02:19] <robotgeek> duckdown, sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:19] <boxy> nalioth, what should i do about this i guess breezy installs gcc 4.0 by default but these modules want 3.4
[02:19] <duckdown> robotgeek: ahhh linux-headers.. perfect, thanks man
[02:20] <nalioth> boxy: install gcc-3.4
[02:20] <drcurl> Why is it so SLOW! I installed sarge wich have gnome 2.8. Under Deb, it uses about 80 megs of ram and was very fast, now, it's more 170 megs of ram and much slower to start and often slow down
[02:20] <boxy> i can have both and it wont cause a problem
[02:21] <nalioth> boxy: you can have as many versions of gcc as you like
[02:21] <nailbiter> boxy: On Ubuntu, /usr/bin/gcc is a symlink to gcc-4.0; installing gcc-3.4 won't change that at all.
[02:21] <boxy> ah
[02:21] <bobby> oh silly ubuntu...who released it without it having traceroute preinstalled?
[02:21] <nailbiter> boxy: Instead, you may have to set CC (or HOSTCC) to gcc-3.4 to specify a particular version
[02:21] <HaiKarate> boxy : yeah for totally homey! use CC environment variable to determine your preferred version and shizzle
[02:21] <boxy> na it works now
[02:22] <bobby> under debian we just change the gcc symlinks
[02:22] <Xenguy> bobby: I like mtr instead :-)
[02:22] <sambagirl> i am an kubuntu user now since i get the cds in the mail.  It's a wonderful environment.  It has revolutoinized things, but there is just 1 problem with ubuntu, there needs to be a video for to learn how to use things in it.  It's so frustrating to have to type so much in shells when you just dont have permissions on your own computer to move from 1 folder something to the other. So i am going to make available free like ubuntu simple
[02:22] <sambagirl> he end of month.
[02:22] <bobby> mtr? never tried it *does*
[02:22] <bimberi> bobby: there is tracepath
[02:22] <drcurl> In addition, OpenOffice start at least 4 time slower than under slackware :|
[02:22] <bobby> Xenguy, to bulky for the task we use it for
[02:22] <sambagirl> does this sound like a good idea or not?
[02:23] <Xenguy> bobby: heh
[02:23] <boxy> theres finally people in here that have given me intelligent answers <3 lol
[02:23] <Suki`> woah does exist.
[02:23] <bobby> tracepath is good though
[02:23] <adilson> i need some help to set my evolution to use a gmail account, can someone help me?
[02:23] <Suki`> okay, someone mind helping me with a compiling problem?
[02:23] <nailbiter> sambagirl: You want to make a set of training videos for Kubuntu?
[02:23] <bobby> boxy, this is ubuntu...don't expect people here to know much outside the gui lol :P
[02:23] <drcurl> bobby, is it nromal that ubuntu is so slow?
[02:23] <boxy> heh bobby
[02:23] <sambagirl> yes you need smomething this is to nuts otherwise.
[02:23] <bobby> drcurl, not at all...what cpu/ram do you have?
[02:24] <drcurl> centrino 1.4 ghz
[02:24] <drcurl> 256 ram
[02:24] <nailbiter> adilson: gmail provides POP-3 access; just create an Evolution account with that
[02:24] <boxy> speaking of which bobby i've been using the command prompt mostly anywas cause im use to it from gentoo and all this automation isn't helping. lo
[02:24] <sambagirl> needs to be for all parts, setting up samba, apache, how to move a directory, what is a permissoin how does it look what are simple commands. things nobody knows like me.
[02:24] <bobby> drcurl, do you ahve all of the gnome updates installed for ubuntu? and your graphics card setup correctly
[02:24] <zblach> google doesn't seem to have much in the way of help. found a review and some tech. stuff I couldn't understand
[02:25] <robotgeek> adilson: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/t41552-the-complete-guide-to-using-gmail-with-thunderbird-mozilla-mail-evolution-and-kmail.html first link on google
[02:25] <duckdown> Sorry, I'm also missing all of my compilers and such after a brand new install, is there a major apt-get install I have to do?
[02:25] <TokenBad> is it easy to setup vhost on ubuntu?
[02:25] <XIII> hi, how can i use broken filter?
[02:25] <boxy> I dont think ima be staying on ubuntu for much longer
[02:25] <drcurl> bobby, yes, I like the way that ubuntu works perfectly, but it is so much slower than slack or debian, mainly to start app, I can't accept that :|
[02:25] <bobby> boxy, not a fan of a lot of the ubuntu automation (makes it hard for me to help in here cause I do most things from the cli) though it is great for users like my mother and father ^_^ ...though I'm happy sticking with debian
[02:25] <duckdown> I only used the 650MB image
[02:25] <Riddell> sambagirl: you got kubuntu CDs?
[02:25] <nailbiter> duckdown: 'build-essential' is a virtual package that will pull in most of the build tools you need
[02:25] <sambagirl> nobody wants read those crpytic manuals or pdf files. anyway if anyone is interested you can email riosambagirl@yahoo.com
[02:25] <sambagirl> cya
[02:25] <miketech> Hi
[02:25] <robotgeek> duckdown: what are you compiling?
[02:25] <boxy> bobby, heh
[02:25] <duckdown> nailbiter: odd, ive done build-essential..
[02:25] <boxy> bobby, true that
[02:25] <duckdown> robotgeek: ndiswrapper, and its complaining about not finding gcc-3.4 or something
[02:26] <rabidsnail> When I installed mysql I told it to be localhost-only, and now I want to allow all ip-addresses. How do I do this?
[02:26] <adilson> robotgeek,  thank you!
[02:26] <robotgeek> duckdown: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 then
[02:26] <drcurl> join #kubuntu
[02:26] <miketech> Just one question: I'm thinking about installing an ubuntu breezy on an amd 64 server system. Is there a 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[02:26] <nailbiter> duckdown: That's in the 'gcc-3.4' package. 'gcc-4.0' is the default on Ubuntu
[02:26] <drcurl> oups
[02:26] <bobby> drcurl, mmm it shouldn't be laggy, in fact gnome 2.12 should be faster than 2.4
[02:26] <Suki`> anyone know why proftpd won't seem to show up when I try "apt-get install proftpd" ?
[02:26] <boxy> bobby, im thinking about going back to gentoo or maybe trying archlinux or maybe ill take debian for a spin who knows.
[02:26] <duckdown> Ahhh great.  Thanks nailbiter , robotgeek .
[02:26] <duckdown> I better keep this client open :S
[02:26] <boxy> bobby, wanna sell me on debian :P
[02:26] <sambagirl> if nothing else someone needs to explain the wars between gnome and kde so people know what to loook for.
[02:26] <robotgeek> miketech: yes
[02:27] <drcurl> gnome 2.8 under debian bobby, only use 80 megs of ram once loaded and respond faster
[02:27] <bobby> boxy, vector, arch and debian etch/sid are very nice distros...and ubuntu is great for newer users (instead of that rpm mdk/rh/suse rubbish)
[02:27] <HaiKarate> Suki` : uhhh show up where?
[02:27] <Suki`> like
[02:27] <Mazin> How do I get amaroK to play mp3s?
[02:27] <Suki`> HaiKarate, I type apt-get install proftd and it says it couldn't find the package.
[02:27] <TokenBad> anyone know about how to do vhost on ubuntu?
[02:27] <miketech> and what is the difference? is every application working on the 64 bit machine?
[02:27] <p337> no one has a clue as to why my sound/wireless drivers would stop working after reboot?
[02:27] <boxy> thanks bobby, last question why debian over arch?
[02:27] <miketech> is there a different repository for application?
[02:28] <HaiKarate> ubotu: tell Suki` about repos
[02:28] <robotgeek> p337: lsmod and see if the drivers have been loaded
[02:28] <bobby> drcurl, sorry mate I haven't heard or seen anything even similar to your issue....and haven't had it on any of the laptops I've put ubuntu on (some that are lower speced than yours) ...maybe some one else can help
[02:28] <HaiKarate> Suki` : you need to enable additional repositories most likely...werd!
[02:28] <slashx1896> Hey all, how do i change my default web browser?
[02:28] <bobby> boxy, far more packages, erm...arch tends to be 'cleaner' cause it doesn't have years of dev behind it...but debian just feels better, less gritty
[02:28] <XIII> hi, how can i use broken filter?
[02:28] <liable> p337: sudo echo rt2500 >> /etc/modules
[02:28] <Doomhammer> miketech: i tried 64-bit ubuntu for a while, but flash player isn't availible, and the one that is availible to build from source did not work after a successful build
[02:28] <Doomhammer> miketech: plus, no WINE
[02:28] <nailbiter> Mazin: Are you installing KDE piecemeal (instead of a whole Kubuntu installation)?  If so, try the 'kdemultimedia' package; it'll pull in what you need to play MP3 audio and MPEG2 video
[02:28] <p337> robotgeek, ok.... let me boot linux then
[02:28] <miketech> so:
[02:29] <Suki`> HaiKarate, well, its listed as one of the packages on the website.
[02:29] <userasroot> hey when i add a new user it should create a /home/user directory right?
[02:29] <drcurl> bobby, maybe I'm just used to the speed of slack
[02:29] <p337> liable... i thought i was done!
[02:29] <Suki`> Which is why I was wondering
[02:29] <boxy> bobby, thanks i think ima check it out since linux has finally got my wifi down pat
[02:29] <miketech> Doomhammer, is the ubuntu 64 a different repository? all application precompiled for 64 bit?
[02:29] <robotgeek> miketech: apps compiled wirh 64 bit stuff, i presume. the repos are the same, apt handles it for you
[02:29] <bobby> boxy, any good at installing viafb graphics drivers by any chance? lol
[02:29] <Doomhammer> miketech: point is, there are a few apps scattered around that don't quite work... but for the most part, 64-bit is awesome
[02:29] <Doomhammer> miketech: no, same repository, but the applications are native 64-bit
[02:29] <p337> Liable, everything was working so well..... anyways... brb...
[02:29] <miketech> hm?
[02:29] <miketech> same repository?
[02:29] <liable> p337: all you need to do is modprobe it, i thought hotplug would do it for you..
[02:29] <MrPockets> in some of the Ubuntu screen shots ive seen, windows in the bachground appear to be transparent. is this possible in Ubuntu?
[02:29] <boxy> bobby, mmm i havn't used anything but nvidia but i can give it a whirrle where are you stuck at?
[02:29] <bobby> drcurl, debian is comparable to slackware speed wise, ubuntu is a bit slower (not sure why...more eyecandy? :P)
[02:29] <slashx1896> Anyone?? i wanna change my default browser.. i cant use firefox without some box popping up liek a wizard. but when i try to complete it it freazes
[02:29] <miketech> and apt can choose 32 bit or 64 bit?
[02:30] <timfrost> Suki`, add the universe repository
[02:30] <nailbiter> miketech: Yes, Ubuntu breezy has a 64-bit build.
[02:30] <miketech> and what about security updates? debian had some problems with security updates for the 64 bit versions
[02:30] <nailbiter> miketech: But it'll still run 32-bit applications
[02:30] <Suki`> timfrost, alrighty.
[02:30] <bobby> boxy, mmm just trying to use their install script to isntall the viafb.ko binary driver...but their script doesn't work under ubuntu and I can't fix it...I'm used to nvidia as well so I'm stuck
[02:30] <XIII> timfrost how can i use the "broken" filter??
[02:30] <bobby> oh well, 60hz for my eyes!
[02:30] <rabidsnail> How to I change mysql from localhost-only to all ip-addresses allowed
[02:30] <HaiKarate> Suki` : proftpd is in universe homey!
[02:30] <boxy> bobby, try m-a ?
[02:30] <nalioth> XIII: open synaptic and use it
[02:30] <bobby> ma?
[02:30] <slashx1896> ugg guess no 1 knows how
[02:31] <Doomhammer> nailbiter: from my 4 week or so experience with it, it will only if you use the one designed for x86_64... if you use the native k8 64 bit version, 32 bit apps will not run
[02:31] <boxy> bobby, type m-a in the command prompt just like that
[02:31] <XIII> nalioth how??
[02:31] <Suki`> HaiKarate, Thanks, just one more question and im done. How to apply a root password to mysql?
[02:31] <bobby> slashx1896, I've got no idea
[02:31] <miketech> so if i have an application, that does not work with 64 bit i can use the 32 bit version?
[02:31] <boxy> bobby, its a nice little tool for compiling modules
[02:31] <miketech> or doesn't it compile at all?
[02:31] <nalioth> XIII: click alt-f2 > gksudo synaptic
[02:31] <bobby> boxy, thx, I'll try it
[02:31] <nalioth> XIII: synaptic is pretty self-explanatory
[02:31] <bobby> slashx1896, found it
[02:32] <bobby> slashx1896, system -> prefferences -> prefered applications
[02:32] <userasroot> hey when i add a new user it should create a /home/user directory right?
[02:32] <hikenboot> why would i get permission denied when trying to compile with sudo ?
[02:32] <XIII> nalioth it doesn't tell anything
[02:32] <kameron> userasroot, yes, it should be
[02:32] <slashx1896> thanks bobby
[02:33] <wojt> how do you ssh in terminal?
[02:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell XIII about synaptic
[02:33] <wojt> i've used nutty for windows before
[02:33] <XIII> nalioth i mean it dosen't solve the issue
[02:33] <nalioth> XIII: i dont know what issue you have, i was just answering your 'broken packages' question
[02:34] <rabidsnail> wojt, if ssh is installed just type ssh and the url/ip address
[02:34] <bobby> lol boxy found the problem, the install script checks if it is suse, mdk, or fedora and if it isn't any of them exists
[02:34] <bobby> haha
[02:34] <boxy> bobby, haha nice
[02:34] <XIII> nalioth the problem is:
[02:34] <XIII> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/lilypond-data_2.6.3-9~breezy1_all.deb: subprocess new post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[02:34] <XIII> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/lilypond_2.6.3-9~breezy1_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[02:34] <bobby> so much for clicking the 'generic linux' box
[02:34] <boxy> bobby, im lookin for my debian cd i thought i had a recent one but i can only find 3.0 r1
[02:34] <HaiKarate> Suki` : sudo mysqladmin -u root password "your_password_for_root"  werd!
[02:34] <XIII> i can't install or remove this songwriter
[02:34] <nalioth> XIII: in a terminal, type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[02:35] <bobby> boxy, even if you had sarge it is still a huge 500meg+ update to etch or sid
[02:35] <XIII> i did nalioth and also it didn't solve it
[02:35] <boxy> bobby, huh?
[02:35] <Suki`> HaiKarate, thanks. Just need to check a few more things to make sure I don't have anymore problems.
[02:35] <boxy> bobby, is sarge their 3.1 release?
[02:35] <bobby> boxy, since sarge was released they have updated a lot of the distro
[02:35] <HaiKarate> Suki` : hain't no thang! tippi tai!
[02:35] <bobby> I think so
[02:36] <userasroot> my install fubared   i can't creat a user that has a /home directory, help me please
[02:36] <bobby> but since then they have moved to x.org and new versions of gnome and most other apps
[02:36] <Suki`> o.O
[02:36] <wojt> Can you change the resolution to higher than 1024x768 although you did not "mark" the higher resolutions when installing?
[02:36] <apokryphos> wojt: yes
[02:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell wojt about fixres
[02:36] <userasroot> my / and /home are on two different dirs
[02:36] <userasroot> rather partitions
[02:36] <bobby> wojt, yes, update the configure file ...though I'm sure ubuntu has a nice gui way to do it
[02:36] <boxy> bobby, eh 5 mb down wouldn't take long to update
[02:36] <apokryphos> userasroot: you can't create a user that has a home directory?
[02:36] <hikenboot> to put it another way i get unable to execute gcc: Permission denied
[02:37] <hikenboot> when executing a script as root
[02:37] <boxy> its just i dont wanna have to take all my hardware downstairs so i can plug into the network cause im on wifi right now
[02:37] <nics_> wojt: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server
[02:37] <bobby> boxy, 500meg is my guess
[02:37] <hikenboot> is it possible it changes user inside the script
[02:37] <bobby> dist-upgrade
[02:37] <boxy> plus i have no blank cd's
[02:37] <mkyb14> beep don't do it
[02:37] <userasroot> apokryphos, yeah i keep trying to and i can't change the permissions with chmod or chown
[02:37] <mkyb14> is there a media player for mp3s that can play over my lan here at home to stream my mp3s from my windows machine to my linux box...xmms and beep don't do it
[02:37] <boxy> bobby, i could do that but i'd have all this mess from ubuntu on here wouldn't i?
[02:37] <XIII> nalioth it even prevents me from installing/removing any other application
[02:37] <boxy> bobby, is there a way to make this strip back down to the base install then do that/
[02:38] <bobby> boxy, it is probably best to get sarge and then do a fresh install and upgrade to etch or sid
[02:38] <apokryphos> userasroot: you're going to have to describe the exact situation. / and /home are on different partitions, right. Now, what/why are you trying to chmod/chown anything?
[02:38] <bobby> boxy, it wouldn't work to well...
[02:38] <boxy> haha
[02:38] <boxy> thats what i thought
[02:38] <wojt> nics_: "x-org server is not installed"
[02:38] <wojt> :/
[02:38] <boxy> which is stable and unstable for debian bobby?
[02:38] <bobby> though you probably could for a bit of fun :)
[02:38] <powderfinger> mkybl4 xmms will do it if you mount a samba share
[02:38] <mkyb14> i have one mounted
[02:38] <boxy> bobby, fun is trying to fix your system after apt-get dep's screw up.
[02:39] <bobby> boxy, stable = sarge, testing = etch, unstable = sid, experimental = experimental
[02:39] <lws> excuse me, I'm new to ubuntu and i'm trying to setup cups.
[02:39] <Obywans> sal all
[02:39] <Obywans> wenas
[02:39] <rabidsnail> how do I change the allowed ip-addresses in mysql to all ip's
[02:39] <powderfinger> And you're sure it won't play?
[02:39] <p337> Liable, I do not have permissions to enable either network connection
[02:39] <bobby> I run a mixture of sid and experimental...though I recommend others use etch and maybe sid if they are brave :P
[02:39] <mkyb14> i go to places > connect to server > windows share
[02:39] <kameron> why when i 'startx -- :1' from virtual console, it doesn't work, but when i do it from a command line terminal, it works/
[02:39] <boxy> sid is "stable" for the most part for a desktop isn't it?
[02:39] <userasroot> apokryphos, the installation didn't allow me to create a user  some problem with passwords
[02:39] <mkyb14> yea i can drag it to the list but it just won't play
[02:39] <powderfinger> No you probably need to do a proper mount
[02:39] <liable> p337: eh? i dunno how to help you with the gui stuff.
[02:39] <apokryphos> userasroot: huh? :/
[02:39] <mkyb14> proper?
[02:39] <userasroot> so i skipped that and set up the system with root
[02:39] <lws> I'm wondering why I /dev/usb missing
[02:40] <powderfinger> !mount
[02:40] <ubotu> mount is probably the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[02:40] <apokryphos> userasroot: and now you can't add a new user? Why?
[02:40] <lws> and also, why is configuring cups through the web interface disabled?
[02:40] <p337> liable.... how do i enable network connections from console then?
[02:40] <apokryphos> userasroot: sudo adduser username
[02:40] <bobby> boxy, yes, myself and several friends run it as our desktops, haven't had any broken package or dependancy problems for months
[02:40] <liable> p337: did you load the module, or reboot after adding it to the file?
[02:40] <boxy> bobby, that's good
[02:40] <p337> liable, what do you mean load the module?
[02:40] <bobby> boxy, though I'm using experimental for gnome 2.12...but I think that moved to sid last night cause I noticed a bunch of new gnome updates
[02:40] <mkyb14> i'll give that a shot.... i'm doing this over a lan though not a hd in my computer
[02:41] <liable> p337: remember doing modprobe rt2500?
[02:41] <bobby> either way gnome 2.12 will be in sid in the next two weeks or so
[02:41] <boxy> bobby, eh i've about had it with gnome.
[02:41] <powderfinger> That's what samba is for.  It will work
[02:41] <bobby> boxy, lol
[02:41] <liable> p337: when you reboot it will be loaded next time
[02:41] <p337> liable yeah i did that
[02:41] <userasroot> apokryphos, yeah i can add a user but it won't create a /home/(user)
[02:41] <boxy> bobby, bulk bulk bulk.
[02:41] <powderfinger> Know anything about sharing under windows?
[02:41] <mkyb14> i'm looking at the !mount instructions and it's for a hard drive
[02:41] <apokryphos> userasroot: it produces no error?
[02:41] <mkyb14> yea
[02:41] <boxy> bobby, it makes me wanna cry
[02:41] <userasroot> just a sec
[02:41] <bobby> boxy, xfce is what I use when I get sick of gnome...it is nearly nice and polished, else I use blackbox :)
[02:41] <boxy> bobby, not to mention that esd on ubuntu is screwed up so gnome takes like 10 minutes to load
[02:41] <mkyb14> i'm a windows person before linux... i'm learning linux and have shared it other flavors
[02:42] <p337> Liable i have rebooted several times, i am using the same computer right now
[02:42] <powderfinger> Try adding something like "//neon/Disk-1			/mnt/neon/disk1		smbfs	guest,fmask=0777,dmask=0777"
[02:42] <boxy> bobby, i use to use fluxbox
[02:42] <powderfinger> to your /etc/fstab file
[02:42] <liable> p337: does it show up in ifconfig -a
[02:42] <p337> liable yeah
[02:42] <liable> p337: in iwconfig?
[02:42] <bobby> boxy, is it? mmm I just use alsa on all pc's I have control over
[02:42] <powderfinger> !samba
[02:42] <ubotu> rumour has it, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[02:42] <liable> p337: ifup ra0   (if thats the name, cant remember)
[02:42] <tech9iner> alas mates..
[02:43] <p337> liable i think it shows up... it sees my network and everything, but wont jon it
[02:43] <bobby> esd was stuffed on debian sid last week but it is working again now :)
[02:43] <boxy> bobby, yeah i tryed installing alsa but the ubuntu wiki wasn't much help so i didnt bother
[02:43] <bobby> boxy, mmm
[02:43] <liable> p337: oh
[02:43] <dp---> !shred
[02:43] <ubotu> dp---: Are you smoking crack?
[02:43] <powderfinger> Try that line up there ^^^^
[02:43] <bobby> anyway I've got to try and get this viafb working, back later all
[02:43] <wojt> 128mb is 128 000 isn't it? :P
[02:43] <powderfinger> Sorry link!
[02:43] <wojt> kb
[02:43] <wojt> that is
[02:43] <userasroot> o i get a chown 1001:1001 opperation not permitted
[02:43] <boxy> bobby, no worries im about to hit up debia anyways lol
[02:43] <boxy> debian*
[02:43] <liable> p337: try dhclient ra0
[02:43] <bobby> :P
[02:43] <lws> Is the cups binary modified on ubuntu?  How do i re-enable the web administration features?
[02:43] <bobby> hope you like it
[02:43] <userasroot> with adduser
[02:43] <p337> liable, whats weird is it doesn't even do my ethernet connection now
[02:43] <apokryphos> userasroot: cat /etc/fstab|grep home    ...gives?
[02:44] <Jason> i have  a odd question for you all linux pros
[02:44] <alphy> anybody know if there is a good chess game for linux somewhere?
[02:44] <tech9iner> 1st ever install not bringing joy here.. messed up damned default non root gibberish and cannot reset root/default sudo user password .. spent last 2 hours googling and trying knoppix resets blah blah.. all to no avail..
[02:44] <boxy> bobby, i think ima just do a network install
[02:44] <bobby> boxy, the debian help channel has a lot of users who are good at troubleshooting advanced problems
[02:44] <apokryphos> alphy: apt-cache search chess
[02:44] <powderfinger> gnuchess?
[02:44] <bobby> boxy, cleanest way
[02:44] <Jason> what is diff between  ubuntu linux and  other linux like mepis
[02:44] <liable> p337: strange. check your router and make sure dhcp server is on.
[02:44] <bobby> gnome
[02:44] <bobby> gone*
[02:44] <bobby> lol
[02:44] <p337> liable  it is, cause i am using it right now
[02:44] <tech9iner> i could have completely reinstalled entire os in less time..
[02:44] <boxy> bobby, im sure couldn't be worst then this ;) heh i made a post on ubuntuforums, that was a joke trying to get a reply
[02:45] <tech9iner> quite the culture shock/learning curve to change from root/user os chums..
[02:45] <powderfinger> mkybl4 You still listening
[02:45] <HaiKarate> Jason : all the other Linux distributions suffer from the gum diseases known as <peter_griffin>GINGIVITIS!</peter_griffin> ;-)
[02:45] <Suki`> o.O;;
[02:45] <boxy> bobby, do you have aim?
[02:45] <userasroot> i get dev blah home VFAT
[02:45] <userasroot> apokryphos,
[02:45] <apokryphos> userasroot: why is your /home on vfat? :/
[02:45] <tech9iner> does any bloke present have a clue.. aside from entire reinstallation for another 2 hours please?
[02:46] <slashx1896> What are .class files?
[02:46] <zblach> HaiKarate, isn't that what the dreated plac users get?
[02:46] <tech9iner> on how to reset sudo password or ?? other work around please .. thanks
[02:46] <boxy> slashx1896, compiled java files
[02:46] <Jason> fact resons or are all linux the same
[02:46] <apokryphos> userasroot: not sure if that's entirely supported. Might well be fine; might not be.
[02:46] <zblach> slashx1896, compiled java files
[02:46] <slashx1896> hmm
[02:46] <apokryphos> userasroot: and the blah blah is important info 8). Always good to paste.
[02:46] <powderfinger> How rude is that?  You ofer someone advice, then he f*cks of without a word.
[02:46] <msh> hu
[02:46] <msh> hi
[02:46] <userasroot> i am trying too set up a dual boot for my buddy but i think i will
[02:46] <HaiKarate> tech9iner : what's a bloke, homey? it sounds like a dirty word! werd!
[02:46] <bimberi> tech9iner: can you log in?
[02:46] <p337> liable i think i am gonna format those partitions and start from the beginning
[02:47] <mkyb14> sayss that it can't resolve mount point
[02:47] <Doomhammer> slashx1896: if you're trying to run them, java <class name without the .class>
[02:47] <liable> p337: err, i dont think thats quite neccesary
[02:47] <powderfinger> Create a directory
[02:47] <apokryphos> userasroot: so why would you want /home as vfat? You can dualboot without that.
[02:47] <boxy> bobby?
[02:47] <slashx1896> i dont want to run 1
[02:47] <slashx1896> i have a folder with a whole bunch of em
[02:47] <powderfinger> eg.  "mkdir /mnt/somedirname"
[02:47] <Doomhammer> slashx: any idea what they're for ? :P
[02:47] <userasroot> yeah it must not be fully supported
[02:47] <tech9iner> bimberi: thanks.. yes i have, on others advice here created a new user to login..
[02:47] <slashx1896> yeah..
[02:47] <slashx1896> a program
[02:47] <slashx1896> lol
[02:47] <slashx1896> a java based program
[02:47] <userasroot> thanks
[02:47] <slashx1896> or something..
[02:47] <bimberi> tech9iner: but no sudo access?
[02:47] <userasroot> i go run fdisk
[02:47] <p337> liable... its just if i cant get it to even connect to ethernet.. i cant even get help
[02:47] <shinu> hey
[02:47] <Doomhammer> slashx1896: well i could've told you that lol
[02:47] <userasroot> thankyou
[02:48] <slashx1896> the readme type file said where the main class folder is, and then said Main-Class will be added automatically by build
[02:48] <slashx1896> lol
[02:48] <liable> p337: is your etherenet called eth0?
[02:48] <zblach> would another channel be better for ubuntu hardware support?
[02:48] <apokryphos> zblach: nope
[02:48] <p337> liable i think so
[02:48] <liable> p337: from a terminal run, sudo ifup eth0
[02:48] <zblach> slashx1896, best bet: try this. javac *.
[02:48] <zblach> well, no .
[02:48] <zblach> but meh
[02:48] <slashx1896> o.O
[02:48] <slashx1896> lol
[02:49] <Wilfred-_-Laurie> when i install something with synaptic packet manager.... should it not create a launcher in my applications shortcuts
[02:49] <michael> Last thing I'll annoy you about
[02:49] <michael> http://pastebin.com/498686
[02:49] <p337> liable.. lol alright let me reboot
[02:49] <liable> p337: if that fails, run , ifconfig eth0 up && dhclient eth0
[02:49] <tech9iner> nay bimberi .. i buggered the password during install of u 5.0.4 ;[.. and since ubuntu decided to not offer root access.. /me bays to the fckg moon..
[02:49] <shinu> for midnight commander, how do i change the default program used for opening say.. a .avi file?
[02:49] <bimberi> tech9iner: try booting into recovery mode - "adduser <user> admin", then that account should have sudo access
[02:49] <zblach> p337, beware that combination!
[02:49] <Doomhammer> wilfred: it does for most apps, but not all the time... if it didn't create one, look in /usr/bin and /usr/sbin
[02:49] <liable> zblach: ??
[02:49] <michael> o, and how do i configure the network interfaces that startup?
[02:49] <timfrost> Wilfred-_-Laurie, only if the application packager included the desktop file that is needed
[02:49] <powderfinger> mk How we doin?
[02:49] <zblach> p337, liable, often when my network dies, i try that combination
[02:49] <slashx1896> doomhammer, what it means the main class will automaticale be added by build?
[02:49] <bimberi> Wilfred-_-Laurie: not for all apps unfortunately, there's always Applications -> System Tools -> Applications Menu Editor
[02:49] <blood_> how can i play me some mp3's
[02:50] <blood_> ?
[02:50] <p337> zblach beware?
[02:50] <zblach> p337, liable, and when I do, 9/10 times, my computer locks up totally
[02:50] <bimberi> ubotu tell blood_ about mp3
[02:50] <powderfinger> blood xmms
[02:50] <ruben> wo bin ich
[02:50] <Doomhammer> slashx: i don't have THAT much experience with java, but I believe it means it will be automatically packaged in a JAR
[02:50] <zblach> so, watchout
[02:50] <p337> zblach well i don't have much to lose
[02:50] <p337> but thanks
[02:50] <liable> zblach: then your computer is stuffed..
[02:50] <slashx1896> well it came with a jar file that i extracted
[02:50] <zblach> p337, kk. i just found it irritation
[02:50] <Doomhammer> slashx: ah the jar was what you were supposed to run
[02:50] <mkyb14> smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)
[02:50] <mkyb14> smbmnt failed: 1
[02:50] <tech9iner> bimberi .. and thanks muchly guv ;] ] ..
[02:50] <mkyb14> wtf is taht
[02:50] <zblach> liable, what better place to get unstuffed? so i used to think
[02:51] <bimberi> tech9iner: not yet, wait till it works :)
[02:51] <zblach> mkyb14, its cockney english
[02:51] <kestasworkacc> anyone know how you switch chans in irssi?
[02:51] <mkyb14> what
[02:51] <powderfinger> Mount it a s root
[02:51] <slashx1896> anyone here good with java and can help me out?
[02:51] <chihuong> help me
[02:51] <liable> zblach: it is the *only* way i bring up my infaces, and never locks my computer up.
[02:51] <slashx1896> chihuong, what u need?
[02:51] <apokryphos> kestas: alt+1/2/3/4/5 etc etc
[02:51] <kestasworkacc> apokryphos: thanks
[02:51] <zblach> slashx1896, i've got 2 years in java, just HS stuff, but maybe
[02:51] <HaiKarate> mkyb14 : sudo mount -t smbfs ...  werd!
[02:51] <Doomhammer> slashx: the jar is like an exe... it's the executable portion of a java application... e.g. java -jar something.jar
[02:51] <norcen> having a problem booting the ubuntu cd on my hp latop, can anyone offer help?
[02:51] <Jason> well my boss want me to pic a ez to use linux for these older pc so he can sell them
[02:52] <tech9iner> aye that bimberi .. indeed lol
[02:52] <zblach> norcen, not use hp? lol
[02:52] <chihuong> i can't intalls x-unikey on ubuntu
[02:52] <Jason> it came down 3 disros
[02:52] <slashx1896> doomhammer, its meant to be extracted though rite?
[02:52] <lws> I would really appreciate some kind of information about the cups package included with ubuntu.
[02:52] <norcen> zblach: heh
[02:52] <Jason> ubunttu  mepis  and pclinux
[02:52] <_jason> ubotu, tell Jason about enter
[02:52] <Doomhammer> slashx: not normally, unless you have some need to look at the actual binaries
[02:52] <ruben> i seem to have installed breezy correctly :)
[02:52] <Korupt> anybody know if the dapper updates today are safe to run...... ?
[02:52] <Wilfred-_-Laurie> thanks Doomhammer
[02:52] <slashx1896> oh
[02:52] <tech9iner> misfit_toy: whaszzzuuuuuppp ;] ] .. pokey chap
[02:52] <ruben> so
[02:52] <Doomhammer> Wilfred: no problem :)
[02:52] <slashx1896> doomhammer, what do u do with it then?
[02:53] <Doomhammer> slashx: run it ... java -jar the_jar_name.jar
[02:53] <jansel001> hey
[02:53] <michael> !help http://pastebin.com/498686 <- problem listed here
[02:53] <jansel001> Aquien que hable en espa;o
[02:53] <_jason> !es
[02:53] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:53] <HaiKarate> !es
[02:53] <norcen> i'm getting an 'image checksum error' when booting from ubuntu install cd, help anyone?
[02:53] <jansel001> Necesito Ayuda
[02:53] <Doomhammer> slashx: unless it just contains class files that are meant to be imported by another jar program... it can be used similarly to C header files, but i don't think that's what yours is for
[02:53] <ruben> so no questions for you, all :)
[02:53] <Doomhammer> slashx: you're not a java developer, are you ?
[02:53] <mkyb14> to login as root is just su
[02:53] <mkyb14> then password
[02:53] <HaiKarate> blootbot indeed. werd!
[02:54] <somerville32> I'm back
[02:54] <slashx1896> Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from jKaiUI
[02:54] <Doomhammer> jason: i'd try ubuntu, debian, maybe fedora, perhaps mandrake
[02:54] <Doomhammer> jason: if you want an easy linux
[02:54] <ruben> boy o
[02:54] <slashx1896> ahh
[02:54] <slashx1896> forgot to do .jar
[02:54] <slashx1896> ;)
[02:54] <_jason> ubotu, tell mkyb14 about root
[02:54] <powderfinger> I always do "su -" then password
[02:54] <benplaut> if all computers on a network have software firewalls, is it safe to turn off the router DoS firewall? none are servers, and i think it's slowing down the internet
[02:54] <powderfinger> !root
[02:54] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:54] <powderfinger> Aggh, I'm on Debian
[02:54] <apokryphos> powderfinger: of course, however, sudo is the recommended method.
[02:54] <p337> liable: well the ethernet worked this time when i booted
[02:54] <Jason> yes ez linux would be vary nice    doomkaper
[02:55] <mkyb14> ha ok that did it
[02:55] <powderfinger> Mounted?
[02:55] <ruben>  the sound of ubuntu gives trouble
[02:55] <liable> p337: interesting..
[02:55] <slashx1896> doomhammer, ok i did that and a whole bunch of stuff popped up and it loks like 1 error
[02:55] <mkyb14> but its bugg like its cutting in and out
[02:55] <p337> liable: so i can work on the wireles though
[02:55] <powderfinger> Are you wireless?
[02:55] <Doomhammer> slashx: a stack trace ?
[02:55] <mkyb14> yea 54g
[02:55] <slashx1896> whats a stack trace? :P
[02:55] <powderfinger> Signal Strength?
[02:55] <liable> p337: you cant turn it on through the gui?
[02:55] <Doomhammer> slashx: it's java's way of handling errors (exceptions)
[02:55] <Jason> doomhammer   ez disro be good thing
[02:55] <Doomhammer> slashx: do this for me, java --version
[02:56] <p337> liable: it isnt giving me an ip address... but it sees it and has full signal strength
[02:56] <Doomhammer> slashx: if it's the GNU java interpretor, you should get the official JRE from http://java.sun.com
[02:56] <mkyb14> good/exelent.. i'm on a ethernet bridge
[02:56] <liable> p337: paste your /etc/network/interfaces file to a paster
[02:56] <slashx1896> java version "1.4.2"
[02:56] <slashx1896> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[02:56] <p337> liable: ok
[02:56] <mkyb14> wet54g by linksys
[02:56] <jansel001_> HOLA
[02:56] <Doomhammer> jason: look here: www.ubuntulinux.org
[02:56] <jansel001_> que tal
[02:56] <powderfinger> I would suspect you have wireless problems
[02:56] <apokryphos> !es
[02:56] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:56] <jansel001_> Necesito AYuda
[02:56] <jansel001_> PLEASE AYUDA
[02:57] <liable> jansel001_: /join #ubuntu-es
[02:57] <slashx1896> doomhammer, thats what i got.. then somethin about warranty
[02:57] <Doomhammer> slashx: yes, that's the gnu java interpretor... download the JRE from http://java.sun.com
[02:57] <UncleD> Synchronizing clock to ntp.ubuntulinux.org (It fails every time on bootup) - anyone have this problem? How can I fix it
[02:57] <jansel001_> ayuda
[02:57] <mkyb14> hm i could do a cross over cable
[02:57] <jansel001_> help
[02:57] <eXSiR> hi may i ask a question, why cant i join #debian
[02:57] <eXSiR> * Cannot join #debian (You are banned).
[02:57] <Doomhammer> slashx: i haven't been able to get java applications compiled with the sun compile to run with the gnu interpretor
[02:57] <eXSiR> it says u are banned
[02:57] <jansel001_> aquien que sepa hablar espanol
[02:57] <jansel001_> necesito ayuda
[02:57] <eXSiR> ??
[02:57] <eXSiR> any idea
[02:57] <apokryphos> jansel001: English only in here
[02:57] <jansel001_> con mi ubuntu
[02:57] <liable> eXSiR: /msg an op and ask
[02:57] <jansel001_> I no can speak in english
[02:57] <jansel001_> Sorry
[02:57] <eXSiR> i dont who are ops
[02:57] <powderfinger> Try that to eliminate potential wireless SNAFUs
[02:57] <norcen> is there an alternate bootable cd image like with suse that i can use? i can't seem to boot to the disk (image checksum error)
[02:57] <apokryphos> jansel001: then join the respective channel
[02:58] <apokryphos> eXSiR: what is the problem?
[02:58] <p337> liable: http://pastebin.com/498699
[02:58] <mkyb14> there shouldn't be any problems with the wireless
[02:58] <p337> doesnt seem to say much
[02:58] <eXSiR> i cant join #debian
[02:58] <jansel001_> help me my ubunto i want account of user my ubuntu 5.10
[02:58] <chihuong> thank you, but i can't do it
[02:58] <mkyb14> hm
[02:58] <liable> eXSiR: try dondelecaro or caphuso (fairly often on channel)
[02:58] <Doomhammer> jansel: No soy seguro all soy un canal espaol.
[02:58] <eXSiR> oke liable
[02:58] <jansel001_> a want root user recovery password
[02:58] <apokryphos> eXSiR: that is off-topic.
[02:58] <michael> what is the lo network interface for??? and can I comment it out of the /etc/network/interfaces
[02:58] <Doomhammer> jansel: Si estoy utilizando espaol incorrecto, apesadumbrado, estoy utilizando Babelfish. :P
[02:59] <jansel001_> jansel
[02:59] <powderfinger> Move closer to the access point and see if things improve
[02:59] <Toma-> !es
[02:59] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:59] <jansel001_> aquien que hable espanol que pueda ayudarme
[02:59] <jansel001_> mi email es este
[02:59] <liable> p337: is your ap still open?
[02:59] <slashx1896> doomhammer, so what am i looking for at the site
[02:59] <Obywans> !ro
[02:59] <ubotu> Obywans: I haven't a clue
[02:59] <jansel001_> jansel_gt@hotmail.com
[02:59] <p337> liable: ap?
[02:59] <Doomhammer> slashx: here, i'll find you a link
[02:59] <jansel001_> mmgbo
[02:59] <mkyb14> the device says 100%
[02:59] <liable> p337: access point
[02:59] <p337> liable: oh yeah
[02:59] <Obywans> !op
[02:59] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Obywans
[02:59] <Doomhammer> slashx: here's the page: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp
[03:00] <Doomhammer> slashx: you want the JRE 5.0 Update 6
[03:00] <UncleD> apokryphos: When I bootup, synchronizing ntpdate to ntp.ubuntulinux.org fails (and it takes 3 minutes to fail at that) - what can i do?
[03:00] <apokryphos> Obywans: ??
[03:00] <Toma-> UncleD, disable it
[03:00] <liable> p337: add these lines to your interfaces file.
[03:00] <scragglybeard> ok, so my homey ubotu no longer recognizes the bang syntx now? werd?
[03:00] <apokryphos> UncleD: or press Ctrl+C to cancel it at the time
[03:00] <liable> p337: actually /j #flood
[03:00] <powderfinger> Well if you're ruling out connectivity I don't know what other probs you migh be having
[03:00] <Doomhammer> UncleD: you could also configure ntpdate to sync with a different server, although I don't know how to do that
[03:01] <userasroot> hey how do i format a partition ext3?
[03:01] <UncleD> Toma-: disable it by removing the file from rcS.d?
[03:01] <Doomhammer> userasroot: mke2fs -j /dev/hda1 (replace /dev/hda1 with the partition you want)
[03:01] <slashx1896> doomhammer, whats the rpm 1?
[03:01] <apokryphos> userasroot: mkfs.ext3 /dev/somepartition
[03:01] <Doomhammer> slashx: get the self extracting one
[03:01] <Toma-> UncleD, Id say use update-rc.d, but alot of people will say to use chmod. so im stayiong out of this.
[03:02] <slashx1896> they both are
[03:02] <slashx1896> except one is a rpm self extracting
[03:02] <Doomhammer> slashx: don't get the RPM, get the .bin
[03:02] <p337> liable: ok... now what?
[03:02] <mkyb14> yea... like most things i'm running into problems with linux
[03:02] <scragglybeard> +1 update-rc.d werd! proper!
[03:02] <slashx1896> there both .bin but i udnerstand lol
[03:02] <p337> liable was #flood a comment
[03:02] <Doomhammer> slashx: okay lol sorry
[03:02] <powderfinger> It's worth persevering, but only U can decide
[03:02] <slashx1896> its ok lol
[03:02] <liable> p337: /j #flood
[03:03] <Doomhammer> slashx: once it's downloaded, move it to /usr/local (or wherever you want to install it)
[03:03] <Doomhammer> slashx: and then do "sudo sh <name of .bin archive>"
[03:03] <Toma-> last time i said to use update-rc.d, about 5 debain users started biting my head off saying chmod is easier
[03:03] <p337> liable: Ok, done
[03:04] <somerville32> Ubuntu didn't detect my sound card by default but modprove sb finds it, what do I have to do to make it detect it everytime I log on?
[03:04] <tech9iner> hmmm... k mates.. bimberi ;] ] .. useradd <username> admin no worky?
[03:04] <Toma-> somerville32, is it an old ISA card?
[03:04] <starscalling> i need an ultralight browser for openbox w/o too many gnome dependancies
[03:04] <somerville32> Toma: I think so
[03:04] <Doomhammer> starscalling: links2 is very light weight... but it's text based :P
[03:04] <scragglybeard> starscalling : lynx! hype!
[03:04] <liable> p337: no, your not there..
[03:04] <UncleD> Toma-: sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove | sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate | cd /etc/rcS.d ; sudo mv S51ntpdate _S51ntpdate | Which one?
[03:05] <tech9iner> sitting at shell prompt via rescue mode on install cd of u 5.0.4..
[03:05] <Toma-> somerville32, yeh i think SB = soundblaster 16 right?
[03:05] <liable> p337: type /j #flood in your irc client
[03:05] <starscalling> yeah i want a gui .. guess ill go with mozilla-browser for that
[03:05] <somerville32> Toma: I'm pretty sure.
[03:05] <p337> liable: haha ohh
[03:05] <tech9iner> twould seem adduser doesnt like admin as command typed please
[03:05] <Doomhammer> starscalling: i like firefox
[03:05] <mkyb14> how do you kill a process
[03:05] <Toma-> UncleD, id like to say "sudo update-rc.d -f ntpdate remove", but ill probably get alot of complains from debain users :)
[03:05] <mkyb14> like xmms
[03:05] <bimberi> tech9iner: adduser (not useradd) - but the intention was to make that account a member of the admin group - you could confirm that by typing "groups" in a terminal
[03:05] <tech9iner> aha.. may be relative eh bimberi ..
[03:05] <Doomhammer> starscalling: there's another tiny gui browser called "ijini", but i belive it's windows only... been so long since i used it, might want to google it
[03:05] <tech9iner> lol
[03:06] <mkrenz> I'm writing an ssh document and I don't have Ubuntu installed anywhere right now.  Can someone tell me if ssh-agent starts automatically when you login to X from gdm?
[03:06] <Toma-> somerville32, ok, well you could add "sb" to your /etc/modules file (let me check a moment)
[03:06] <powderfinger> Just close it
[03:06] <mkyb14> can't
[03:06] <tech9iner> alas.. i look damned good in color 'dumkopf' eh mates.. lol
[03:06] <mkyb14> it's froze
[03:06] <powderfinger> Why?
[03:06] <mkyb14> i dunno
[03:06] <powderfinger> !kill
[03:06] <ubotu> methinks kill is a command for getting rid of unwanted processes, usage: kill [-signal]  PID.  Signals are numbers: -15 is general exit, -9 forces quit.  See manual page for more.
[03:06] <norcen> can anyone offer an alternative to installing ubuntu (other than booting off the CD)
[03:06] <Toma-> somerville32, yeh. add sb to /etc/modules
[03:06] <starscalling> o:
[03:06] <starscalling> thanx Doomhammer
[03:06] <Toma-> mkrenz, nope
[03:06] <starscalling> ill check that out
[03:06] <Doomhammer> starscalling: no problem :)
[03:07] <starscalling> ;)
[03:07] <bimberi> norcen: various methods described at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[03:07] <norcen> ty bimberi
[03:07] <mkyb14> nope
[03:07] <slashx1896> doomhammer, it wont let me move it to /usr/local
[03:07] <bimberi> norcen: np :)
[03:07] <starscalling> how about an ultralight text editor?
[03:07] <starscalling> [gui] 
[03:07] <Toma-> vi
[03:07] <starscalling> not vi
[03:07] <starscalling> i dont get along with that one
[03:07] <Toma-> im sure theres a gui vi :/
[03:07] <Toma-> neither
[03:07] <starscalling> there is
[03:07] <_jason> gvim
[03:07] <starscalling> i dont like vi !_!
[03:07] <starscalling> any others?
[03:08] <_jason> starscalling, whats wrong with gedit
[03:08] <mkrenz> Toma-: Really?  I'm surprised.  Especially since Debian does.
[03:08] <starscalling> im trying to stay away from gnome dependancies
[03:08] <powderfinger> What did U type?
[03:08] <_jason> starscalling, oh I see
[03:08] <starscalling> and that has lots
[03:08] <somerville32> !mp3
[03:08] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:08] <starscalling> doing um
[03:08] <Toma-> mkrenz, i didnt know ubuntu WAS debian. i thought it was only based on it?
[03:08] <mkyb14> !samba
[03:08] <tech9iner> well bimberi .. your cli correction seemed to work 'adding user '???' to group 'admin'...' but.. groups returned only root?
[03:08] <Toma-> ;)
[03:08] <ubotu> samba is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[03:09] <kameron> !tell Toma- about debian
[03:09] <starscalling>  so server install >> openbox gdm xserver-xorg x-window-system-core mozilla-browser xterminal
[03:09] <starscalling> +nvidia-glx
[03:09] <starscalling> hehe is all i got in so far
[03:09] <Toma-> kameron, i know.
[03:09] <bimberi> tech9iner: how about "groups <user>"
[03:09] <tech9iner> thanks bimberi
[03:09] <Doomhammer> starscalling: if you don't mind my asking, what is this minimal system going to be used for ?
[03:09] <necrotec> hrmm
[03:10] <powderfinger> Need to go zzzzzz. Night everyone
[03:10] <tech9iner> NOW u rulz bit more bimberi heh
[03:10] <bimberi> tech9iner: lol
[03:10] <starscalling> heh its my daily system
[03:10] <Toma-> starscalling, why not use xdm?
[03:10] <starscalling> im just tired of the usual gnome setup with everything
[03:10] <starscalling> i dont like xdm ??
[03:10] <starscalling> wait
[03:10] <starscalling> xdm?
[03:10] <Toma-> haha
[03:10] <starscalling> used gdm already >.<
[03:11] <starscalling> thought u were going for xfce
[03:11] <apokryphos> !enter
[03:11] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[03:11] <starscalling> but i had problems with xdm before
[03:11] <starscalling> b/c i couldnt confi
[03:11] <starscalling> g
[03:11] <Toma-> or even wdm :O thats pretty cool.
[03:11] <starscalling> though i should have tried again
[03:11] <starscalling> wdm??
[03:11] <Toma-> WINGs display manager
[03:11] <Doomhammer> hmm neat
[03:11] <Toma-> http://voins.program.ru/wdm
[03:11] <scragglybeard> starscalling : ye be puttin hormel's processed meat in the channel too much homey! :-(
[03:11] <Doomhammer> i just figured screw it, and did a base install with kubuntu-desktop
[03:11] <slashx1896> doomhammer, it wont let me move it to /usr/local
[03:11] <Doomhammer> slashx: you need to sudo it
[03:12] <slashx1896> how do i move it to there thruogh terminal?
[03:12] <Travis_> hi, I have an install of Ubuntu that I had dual booted with Windows XP I recently got rid of the XP partition and have extra space on the drive, how can I resize / to get the extra space without losing my data
[03:13] <Toma-> Travis_, was the XP drive infront of the ext3 drive?
[03:13] <Gunfus> does anyone have tried to compile lm_sensors on Ubuntus..?
[03:13] <Toma-> Gunfus, why compile?
[03:13] <slashx1896> i know i need to sudo it to install but i cant even move the .bin file to /usr/local
[03:13] <Gunfus> Toma-, I couldn't find it on the servers..
[03:14] <Toma-> !info lm-sensors
[03:14] <ubotu> lm-sensors: (utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors), section utils, is extra. Version: 1:2.9.1-4ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 460 kB, Installed size: 1476 kB
[03:14] <bimberi> c/_/-/
[03:14] <Travis_> Toma- yes
[03:14] <starscalling> what
[03:14] <Gunfus> Toma-, ohh look at that.. now I found it.. nevermind then
[03:14] <Toma-> Travis_, not sure if its possible...
[03:14] <starscalling> arg its the keyboard; what's emacs?
[03:14] <Toma-> Gunfus, hehe ;)
[03:15] <Toma-> emacs is ecrap.
[03:15] <starscalling> eh
[03:15] <Toma-> imho.
[03:15] <bimberi> h?
[03:15] <starscalling> ok im gonna try leafpad then :)
[03:16] <UncleD> Toma-: Doing a chmod -x on the /etc/init.d/ntpdate worked fine.
[03:16] <slashx1896> Hmmm doom?
[03:16] <Toma-> UncleD, k.
[03:16] <scragglybeard> !funky
[03:16] <Travis_> I have 32gb of data on the XP drive
[03:16] <ubotu> funky is, like, totally, Get up,  (git awn up),   Get up,  (git awn up),  Stay on the scene (git awn up)..... like an ubuntu machine,  (git awn up). yeah granddaddy of funk :] 
[03:16] <Travis_> and I need to get that to my linux drive
[03:16] <Malachi> Can anyone guide me through the process of installing windows software on Linux using wine?
[03:16] <Travis_> and then I want the rest of the space that I have now
[03:16] <Travis_> just need to find a way to resize /
[03:17] <Doomhammer> slashx: sorry, was in the bathroom... whatcha need ?
[03:17] <Doomhammer> malachi: do you have wine setup  ?
[03:17] <slashx1896> lol its cool
[03:17] <Toma-> Malachi, you openup a terminal, then run "wine the-program-you-want.exe"
[03:17] <Malachi> Doomhammer: Installed? Yeah...
[03:17] <slashx1896> doomhammer, i cant move the .bin file to /usr/local, u said to sudo it.. how do i move it to /usr/local through terminal
[03:17] <Doomhammer> malachi: "wine some-program.exe"
[03:17] <Malachi> Toma- : I've done that, but I don't know about installing it.
[03:17] <Doomhammer> slashx: sudo mv <the .bin file> /usr/local/
[03:17] <Travis_> don't you just install like you would on windows
[03:17] <Toma-> Malachi, did it install? and is it supported?
[03:17] <Malachi> Like running an setup program
[03:18] <Malachi> I doubt it's supported
[03:18] <Toma-> Malachi, what program is it?
[03:18] <Malachi> Riva Encoder Setup
[03:18] <Travis_> actually is it possible to merge to ext3 drives?
[03:18] <Travis_> err partitions
[03:18] <Gunfus> Toma-, For lm-sensor.. do I still got to configure it and run sensors-detect and all of that.. I assume yes correct..?!
[03:18] <Travis_> like / and /home merge them as one?
[03:18] <Toma-> Gunfus, id say so
[03:19] <Gunfus> Toma-, Sorry I am new to this ubuntus.. and after today.. I must say.. hmm is starting to impress me even more..!!!
[03:19] <Toma-> Malachi, looks like its not listed... http://appdb.winehq.org/ ...but it might still work
[03:19] <Toma-> mmm brb
[03:20] <Malachi> Toma-: Mkay.
[03:20] <slashx1896> doomhammer, k i did sudo sh <.bin file> now it says alot of stuff
[03:20] <Doomhammer> yeah that's the license agreement :P
[03:20] <slashx1896> :D
[03:20] <slashx1896> i knew that
[03:20] <Doomhammer> just hold down enter until it prompts you to say "yes"
[03:20] <slashx1896> its unpacking and what not noww
[03:20] <Doomhammer> when it's done, it's done installing
[03:20] <Doomhammer> you need to specify the exact path to java
[03:21] <Doomhammer> e.g. /usr/local/jdk-1.5.0_06/bin/java -jar <your .jar file>
[03:21] <slashx1896> ah
[03:21] <slashx1896> ok
[03:21] <Doomhammer> unless you add it to your path... and i'm not exactly sure how to do that correctly
[03:21] <slashx1896> do i do a cd to where the jar file is?
[03:21] <Doomhammer> either that or specify the exact path to the .jar
[03:22] <Doomhammer> /usr/local/jdk1.5.0_06/bin/java -jar /some/path/something.jar
[03:22] <tech9iner> ahhhhh bimberi .. confirmed chum.. ye doth rule ;] ] .. one less wedgie in me knickers 4sure.. thanks..
[03:22] <Travis_> I have a main ext3 / and a /home partition how can I merge them as one? is that possible?
[03:22] <bimberi> tech9iner: great!
[03:23] <Toma-> slashx1896, why not just use one of these? http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/dists/breezy/java/binary-i386/
[03:23] <Doomhammer> Toma-: i think that's the GNU java interpretor... which doesn't work correctly for java applications compiled with the Sun JDK in my experience
[03:23] <Obywans> !es
[03:23] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:23] <slashx1896> Toma- its ok
[03:24] <slashx1896> doomhammer, thanks it worked!
[03:24] <Doomhammer> slashx: sweet, congrats :)
[03:24] <Toma-> ahh................ slashx1896 what do you need java for? websites?
[03:24] <shadeofgrey> hey everybody
[03:24] <Toma-> nevermind
[03:24] <shadeofgrey> hows it goin
[03:24] <Doomhammer> toma-: he was trying to run some .jar application
[03:24] <Toma-> ahh.
[03:24] <kasz> hey, can someone help me setup a pci ide extension card?
[03:25] <shadeofgrey> i have a very simple question for today...  i downloaded a whole bunch of kick ass .tff fonts that i wantto make globally available to all my installed programs...  what directory should i put them in?
[03:25] <slashx1896> Yea
[03:25] <Toma-> /usr/share/fonts
[03:25] <shadeofgrey> thanks!'
[03:25] <kasz> the card shows up on lspci, but the harddrive that is connected to it won't show up in /dev
[03:25] <shadeofgrey> and do i have to be root to do that?
[03:25] <slashx1896> i got all this working.. now i need to wait for my friend to get on and help me use this program
[03:26] <Jolly> hello people
[03:26] <Toma-> shadeofgrey, you need to put sudo infront of the mv command
[03:26] <Doomhammer> slashx: what program is it, if i may ask ?
[03:26] <Jolly> how can i get totem to actually play video files
[03:26] <Toma-> Jolly, if is an avi wmv or rm, youll need w32codecs
[03:27] <Toma-> ubotu, tell Jolly about w32codecs
[03:27] <Jolly> how do i get those
[03:27] <Doomhammer> Jolly: i've never used totem... i much prefer VideoLAN VLC (apt-get install vlc) ... i'd highly reccommend that you try it :/
[03:27] <Doomhammer> Jolly: VLC can play avi and wmv files right out of the box :)
[03:28] <UncleD> Toma-: How can I track down a memory leak? It seems over the course of 24hours my systems memory went from 800mb available to 600mb available?
[03:28] <somerville32> When does Ubuntu plan to update firefox?
[03:28] <Toma-> UncleD, you sure its not getting cached?
[03:29] <UncleD> Toma-: Explain what you mean by cached please?
[03:29] <UncleD> Toma-: I'm going off the reading in "top" btw.
[03:29] <sproingie> somerville32: in dapper.  updating ff means updating everything that links to gecko
[03:29] <sharn> hello i have a big problem with installing ubuntu
[03:29] <Jolly> vls is in repostiories
[03:29] <Jolly> how do i get it
[03:29] <Jolly> its greyed out
[03:29] <Jolly> i would like vlc for Gnome
[03:30] <sharn> neither of the boot loaders work and now i cant even get into my original windows me
[03:30] <Toma-> UncleD, linux does a cool thing with memory, it caches it. meaning it gets it ready to be used... kinda like saying "On ya marks, get set....". try running "free" and see how much is cached
[03:30] <tech9iner> k mates.. new tact / challenge here.. shortest path to kubuntu conversion/upgrade from fresh ubuntu 5.0.4 please? bot cover this perhaps?
[03:30] <somerville32> Why doesn't Ubuntu automatically redetect hardware?
[03:30] <sharn> can someone help?
[03:31] <sharn> all i am getting when i start up my pc is a hp pic and then a bunch of 9's
[03:31] <Toma-> tech9iner, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop (iirc)
[03:31] <UncleD> Toma-: I have 82744 cached at this time, with 843mb free.
[03:31] <tech9iner> bravo Toma- ;] .. more than enough to mss google guv ;] ] 
[03:31] <sharn> anyone?
[03:32] <UncleD> Toma-: How can I set my ubuntu system by default not to come up with the Xwindows login unless I specify it from a terminal? I'd rather it boot into a "Server like" mode and let me boot xwindows manually.
[03:32] <Toma-> UncleD, like runlevel 3?
[03:32] <UncleD> I guess?
[03:32] <liable> sharn: not even a bios screen?
[03:32] <sharn> well i can get into a bios screen but will that ehlp?
[03:32] <sharn> f1 will get me to a bios screen
[03:32] <UncleD> Toma-: I rarely plan on using X with this system. I only need it occasionally, so I think having it bootup is using excessive amounts of memory?
[03:32] <liable> sharn: can you boot from a cd?
[03:33] <indo> UncleD: uninstall gdm
[03:33] <sharn> ummm i have tried reinstalling it with the other boot loader and and without one at all so yeah
[03:33] <UncleD> indo: will do.
[03:33] <Toma-> UncleD, yeh it would. i think you need to (from looking at /etc/initab) to set the runlevel to 1.
[03:33] <indo> lol nvmd
[03:34] <tech9iner> your iirc is spot on Toma- ;] .. thanks.. ;] 
[03:34] <UncleD> indo: should I remove gdm via synaptic?
[03:34] <Toma-> tech9iner, np :)
[03:34] <liable> sharn: boot alive cd and see if you can access your drive
[03:34] <pashaw> UncleD,   sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[03:34] <sharn> ok..... hang on a few
[03:34] <gnaik> new to ubuntu...how to prevent specific kernel modules from loading (I don't want the sound drivers to be loaded when I boot)...i checked /etc/modules already
[03:34] <pashaw> UncleD,  it just removes the boot script link
[03:34] <Toma-> UncleD, i think youll have to remove xdm aswell as gdm
[03:34] <UncleD> pashaw, is BUM just a graphical version of update-rc.d ??
[03:35] <sharn> i just put it in and am starting it up
[03:36] <Toma-> UncleD, the sensible way would be to edit /etc/inittab and change the line id:2:initdefault to id:1:initdefault
[03:36] <Toma-> at least, thats what id do.
[03:36] <p337> liable: it seems to be working.. but i had a hell of a time connecting with kopete
[03:36] <Toma-> (ps, im not trying to start a debate.)
[03:36] <p337> liable i am using konversation now
[03:37] <liable> p337: i was wondering where you got to.
[03:37] <p337> heh...
[03:37] <liable> p337: i seen you join then part straight after
[03:37] <sharn> its preparing live session
[03:37] <p337> ah...
[03:37] <p337> liable: how do i tell if i am connected wirelessly or through ethernet.. since both are plugged in
[03:37] <pashaw> UncleD,   never used it
[03:37] <koruptpryde> what startup script can I put additional commands in?
[03:37] <UncleD> Toma-: By changing it from d to 1, what happens?
[03:38] <liable> p337: type, sudo route    and look for the UG and whatever iface is on that line
[03:38] <somerville32> Hey
[03:38] <UncleD> Toma-: never mind, I see.
[03:38] <Toma-> UncleD, from 2 to 1.... it'll start at a single-user run level, meaning no X, and only the 1 runlevel scripts will be run, which will almost alwasy be just the server inits
[03:38] <somerville32> It takes forever for my card to get an ip address from windows xp with ICS.
[03:38] <p337> liable: its on eth0
[03:39] <somerville32> Is there anything I can do to make it work correctly (and with haste)
[03:39] <UncleD> Toma-: cool. Going to give it a shot.
[03:39] <liable> p337: then thats what you are connected through.
[03:39] <sharn> almost done liable
[03:39] <Toma-> UncleD, ive never used it in ubuntu tho. so im hoping it works :|
[03:39] <p337> liable: lol.. yeah... guess so
[03:39] <pashaw> somerville32,  buy a router and dont use ICS
[03:39] <p337> liable: what happens if i unplug my ethernet cable then
[03:39] <p337> liable: will it connect wirelessly?
[03:39] <pashaw> somerville32,   or use an old pc with  ipcop/smoothwall/moonwall
[03:39] <koruptpryde> Question... what startup script can I put additional commands in?
[03:40] <Toma-> UncleD, and yes, BUM is a gui for update-rc.d
[03:40] <somerville32> pashaw: Is it my box or the windows box?
[03:40] <Toma-> koruptpryde, you might need to make your own
[03:40] <koruptpryde> I'm not familiar with Ubuntu's init script style
[03:40] <liable> p337: i doubt it. run ifdown eth0 then ifconfig ra0 up then dhclient ra0
[03:40] <sharn> liable: i have the live almost started
[03:40] <koruptpryde> Toma-: most distros have a generic script where you can just dump a few extra commands
[03:40] <liable> sharn: ok
[03:41] <Toma-> koruptpryde, yeh i know. dunno why they left out rc.local :/
[03:41] <pashaw> somerville32,   no idea  but sharing a connection like that has to be the worst way IMHO
[03:41] <koruptpryde> Toma: rcS looks promising but i don't know if it gets parsed on every runlevel
[03:42] <coz> hello all
[03:42] <Toma-> koruptpryde, try "cd /etc/init.d/ && sudo touch extra-stuff && sudo chmod +x extra-stuff && sudo update-rc.d extra-stuff defaults"
[03:42] <coz> anyone here tried gruler or colorscheme
[03:42] <johnnybezak> hey guys, my old mac monitor (on my imac) has darkened over the years. I'm not sure of a hardware way to fix this, but is there anyway i can make X brighten the screen up?
[03:43] <Toma-> then youll have a little script you can control with update-rc.d
[03:43] <kasz> is there a module i need to load to be able to use my pci ide expandion card?
[03:43] <sharn> k the bars are loading
[03:43] <Toma-> johnnybezak, try xgamma -gamma 1.3
[03:43] <sharn> like the background
[03:43] <gnaik> anyone know?
[03:44] <Toma-> or something higher. dont use anything over 2.0, youll go blind :D
[03:44] <Toma-> or under 0.8, youll not see anything
[03:44] <sharn> liable:ok its loaded
[03:45] <coz> gnaik I came in late what wasyourquestion
[03:45] <liable> sharn: can you look around in your drive?
[03:45] <sharn> yeah i can
[03:45] <coz> daddy coz has arrived
[03:45] <Toma-> johnnybezak, ive added "xgamma -gamma 1.35" to my System>Preferences>Sessions:Startup Programs
[03:45] <narles> does anyone know a good linux replacement for mytunes redux?
[03:45] <sharn> im not used to the linux setup though
[03:45] <gnaik> coz: My kernel loads like 23434 modules upon boot...i'm trying to get rid of the sound drivers from loading -- removed alsa from rc2 and checked /etc/modules
[03:45] <_p337> liable: did you get any of what i just said?
[03:45] <liable> sharn: ok, right click and see if the drive is writable
[03:46] <liable> p337: nope
[03:46] <_p337> lol.. oh... ok...
[03:46] <Toma-> gnaik, you might need to add the modules you dont like to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[03:46] <sharn> ummm
[03:46] <coz> gnaik I think apokryphos can help on thi sone
[03:46] <_p337> liable: cool thanks... now what about making that sound work even after i reboot?
[03:46] <_p337> liable: do i need to do modprobe or whatever it is again
[03:46] <ethan> uhh
[03:46] <gnaik> ahh...hotplug...can I disable hotplug all together?
[03:46] <sharn> ok so right click filesystem and click properties?
[03:47] <ethan> Why is ubuntu always using my harddisk every 8 seconds or so??
[03:47] <ethan> >?,.
[03:47] <Toma-> gnaik, if you have hardware in your PC, id reccomend you leave it on
[03:47] <liable> _p337: i dunno about your sound. run lsmod and see if there are any snd modules there.
[03:47] <Toma-> ethan, have you run "top" and seen if anything is running every 8 seconds?
[03:47] <benplaut> coz: having trouble? :P
[03:47] <liable> _p337: the wireless works though?
[03:47] <_p337> ok
[03:47] <liable> sharn: yep
[03:47] <_p337> liable: yeah i think it does
[03:48] <ethan> Toma-, .o.o...
[03:48] <_p337> thanks
[03:48] <liable> _p337: think?
[03:48] <gnaik> Toma-: ??....under ubuntu...is hotplug responsible for loading everything?
[03:48] <liable> _p337: sudo route
[03:48] <sharn> liable: ok i am looking at the properties of filesystem what sub catagorie should i look it?
[03:48] <ethan> Toma-, I guess it's ext3 isn't it?  somebody told me that it has to always stay in "check".  This prevents my disk from sleeping
[03:48] <Toma-> gnaik, pretty sure its a part of the backbone
[03:48] <liable> sharn: i just want to know if its writable
[03:48] <_p337> liable: yeah i am sure now.. just pulled out the ethernet cable
[03:48] <gnaik> Toma-: it loads a lot of nonsense...like vesafb
[03:48] <liable> hah
[03:49] <ethan> Toma-, no.  a process isn't accessing the harddrive like that, obviously... lol.  It does this on the 8 computers I've installed ubuntu on.  The harddrive is always being accessed every little bit.
[03:49] <Toma-> gnaik, vesafb is loaded from the usplash. have you disabled that?
[03:49] <gnaik> Toma-: under other distros...hotplug is used for things like USB devices, etc.
[03:49] <_p337> liable: i get an error message when i first boot
[03:49] <_p337> liable: about the sound
[03:49] <liable> _p337: whats it say?
[03:49] <Toma-> !hotplug
[03:49] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Toma-
[03:49] <Toma-> damn bot
[03:49] <sharn> under permissions it says that it is not for anyone
[03:49] <gnaik> Toma-: nope...where is that -- i apologize, I've been a FreeBSD user for years
[03:50] <liable> sharn: ok, what is your ubuntu ppartition on? /dev/hda1?
[03:50] <_p337> device /dev/dsp cant be opened server will continue using null output device
[03:50] <ethan> Toma-, lol
[03:50] <Toma-> gnaik, im pretty sure that hotplug, along with hal, load everything you need
[03:50] <sharn> ummm no /dev/hda2 i believe
[03:50] <gnaik> Toma-: thats sucks...cause I don't need everything :)
[03:50] <ethan> Toma-, can you get your harddrive to sleep?
[03:50] <liable> _p337: do the lsmod thing
[03:50] <Toma-> ethan, someone had that problem before in here.... my long term memory sux. tho. :(
[03:50] <sharn> i have a 250 gb hard drive and windows is using the first half and it is on the second
[03:51] <Toma-> ethan, never tried
[03:51] <liable> sharn: sudo mount -o remount rw /dev/hda2
[03:51] <sharn> ubuntu is on the second
[03:51] <sambagirl> it's interesting but many these commands look like amiga commands.
[03:51] <sambagirl> hd1:
[03:51] <Toma-> gnaik, are you trying to make an uber-minimal system?
[03:51] <ethan> Toma-, lol..  It does this for everybody I think.  I guess it is ext3.  it always has to talk to the disk.
[03:52] <_p337> liable: well i dont see it
[03:52] <errr> is it possible to have desktop scrolling in gnome like fluxbox has?
[03:52] <liable> _p337: no snd_xxx modules?
[03:52] <gnaik> Toma-: nope, I just don't want useless kernel modules...I don't use the sound on this machine...and I don't care for pretty boot splashes (who reboots?)
[03:52] <_p337> liable: i am not sure what i am looking for though
[03:52] <sharn> ok im new to this so do i type that in somewhere?
[03:52] <liable> _p337: lsmod |grep snd
[03:52] <liable> sharn: yes, in a terminal
[03:52] <sharn> how do i get to that?
[03:53] <_p337> liable: reutrns nothing
[03:53] <Toma-> gnaik, well get rid of "usplash" or "splash" in the grub menu (/boot/grub/menu.1st) and disable sound with your bios?
[03:53] <liable> _p337: whats your soundcard?
[03:53] <_p337> euh.... intel hign definition
[03:53] <liable> sharn: in the menu, a picture of a monitor
[03:53] <sharn> ok.....
[03:53] <_p337> i used these als drivers or something
[03:53] <Toma-> err menu.lst
[03:54] <liable> _p337: lspci |grep Audio
[03:54] <gnaik> Toma-: thats a start..what about ipv6?
[03:55] <_p337> Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definiti
[03:55] <_p337> on Audio Controller (rev 03)
[03:55] <aent> hey... my menu disappears whenever I open it after like a couple milliseconds
[03:55] <aent> how do I fix it?
[03:55] <marcster> hi. i just did an update of my ubuntu installation and i noticed my pc automatically shutting down after idling for a few mins. where should i check ?
[03:55] <sharn> liable: in system tools?
[03:55] <_p337> liable: thats the one but, it didnt return that when i used the grep thing
[03:55] <Toma-> gnaik, ahhhhh i did that on my machine... hang on, ill brb.
[03:56] <_p337> liable: i just remember finding it when i did lspci yesterday
[03:56] <aent> its happening on dapper
[03:56] <sharn> liable:nevermind i found it
[03:56] <sharn> and i type everything you said?
[03:56] <aent> anyone have any ideas on how to fix it?
[03:56] <liable> sharn: yeah
[03:56] <narles> is it possible to reduce the space of my windows partition, and increase the size of my linux partition?
[03:57] <nalioth> narles: yes it is. use a gparted
[03:57] <marcster> hi. i just did an update of my ubuntu installation and i noticed my pc automatically shutting down after idling for a few mins. where should i check ?
[03:58] <_p337> well good the other version of me is gone now
[03:58] <sharn> liable: it say's you must specify the filesystem type
[03:59] <Toma-> gnaik: ok, open up /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[03:59] <gnaik> im there
[03:59] <gnaik> Toma-: just comment it out?
[03:59] <Toma-> gnaik: ok, comment out alias net-pf-10 ipv6
[03:59] <liable> p337: sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel
[03:59] <Toma-> no
[04:00] <Toma-> then add alias net-pf-10 ipv6 off
[04:00] <Toma-> then add alias net-pf-10 off
[04:00] <Toma-> then add alias ipv6 off
[04:00] <p337> liable: this is the driver i used http://tinyurl.com/ctsom
[04:00] <liable> sharn: erm, is your filesystem ext3?
[04:00] <Toma-> should cover it all.
[04:00] <narles> does rhythm box music player support m4a?
[04:00] <sharn> i think so
[04:00] <gnaik> Toma-: thanks, i'll try to follow the same pattern with the others
[04:00] <sharn> is that what the defualt install does?
[04:00] <sharn> i just did the defualt install
[04:00] <Toma-> gnaik: ok. but be very careful.
[04:01] <ethan> ok
[04:01] <liable> sharn: try this, sudo mount -o remount rw -t ext3 /dev/hda2
[04:01] <Toma-> gnaik: the blacklist if the better way
[04:01] <ethan> Can somebody walk me though getting my hard drive to sleep then?
[04:01] <ethan> -cough-
[04:01] <theverant> what should I use with my iPod?
[04:01] <liable> p337: try that modprobe i gave you
[04:01] <Toma-> theverant: your ears :O
[04:01] <p337> liable: modprobe rt2500?
[04:02] <narles> how do i install java?
[04:02] <theverant> Toma- :|
[04:02] <gnaik> Toma-: I think im gonna try the blacklist first :)...thanks for all yer help
[04:02] <liable> p337: no, snd-hda-intel
[04:02] <sharn> ok one minute
[04:02] <Toma-> theverant: alot of people use gtkpod
[04:02] <Toma-> gnaik: no problem!
[04:03] <Toma-> bbl.
[04:03] <p337> liable: Module snd_hda_intel not found.
[04:03] <ethan> Can somebody walk me though getting my hard drive to sleep then?
[04:03] <liable> p337: hrm..
[04:03] <theverant> system - administration - Add programs = nothing happens
[04:04] <sharn> liable: it says not mounted already or bad option now
[04:05] <liable> sharn: sudo mkdir rescue
[04:05] <liable> sharn: sudo mount /dev/hda2 /rescue
[04:06] <liable> p337: p337 whats the driver name again?
[04:06] <p337> http://tinyurl.com/ctsom
[04:06] <C0LDI30oT> hey, quick question...i'm setting up a server for two ubuntu clients to connect to...can I use samba or do I have to use NFS?
[04:06] <p337> liable: has to do with realtek i think\
[04:06] <liable> sharn: sorry, sudo mkdir /rescue
[04:07] <sharn> ok it didnt do anything last time
[04:07] <GameOver69> can somene plz help me as none of my internet connections work on my kubuntu pc?
[04:07] <GameOver69> i installed the ndiswrapper and did everything to the point that my external wireless card was working perfectly... when i restarted my pc... that didnt work... nor did my internal wireless card or ethernet
[04:08] <GameOver69> and everytime i click enable in network settings
[04:08] <liable> sharn: thats good actually
[04:08] <sharn> that didnt do anything either
[04:08] <GameOver69> it quickly goes back to being disabled
[04:08] <liable> sharn: did you do the mount one?
[04:08] <sharn> oh hang on
[04:08] <C0LDI30oT> gameover, add auto wlan0 (or whatever you card is called) to etc/network/interfaces and restart
[04:09] <GameOver69> but how come none of my internet connections dont work anymore?
[04:09] <liable> p337: can you paste the entire contents of lspci to a paster?
[04:09] <sharn> yep it said the same thing
[04:09] <p337> liable: sure
[04:09] <C0LDI30oT> you got aim or yahoo, gameover?
[04:09] <liable> sharn: sudo umount /dev/hda2
[04:09] <sethk> GameOver69, if none of your internet connections don't work anymore, than all of your internet connections are working
[04:09] <GameOver69> i have aim
[04:09] <GameOver69> and yahoo
[04:10] <C0LDI30oT> im this screen name with one of them
[04:10] <sharn> it says /dev/hda2 not mounted
[04:10] <p337> liable: http://pastebin.com/498767
[04:10] <tolstoy> Damn!  My iwp2200 set up works perfectly in fedora core 4!  But unbuntu is so much nicer in every other respect!  Grrrrrrrrr!
[04:11] <bobby> mmm how does one upgrade to x.org 6.9 under breezy badger?
[04:11] <sharn> which would mean that it didnt mount it to hd2
[04:11] <jawshoewah> hi everyone i really need a basic how to on installing tar.gz programs
[04:11] <sharn> hda2*
[04:11] <GameOver69> seth how is that possible
[04:11] <GameOver69> what do i do to fix it
[04:11] <sethk> jawshoewah, a tar.gz is an archive format.  it can contain anything
[04:11] <bobby> jawshoewah, tar -xzvf file.tar.gz && cd file/ && ./configure && make && sudo make install
[04:11] <bobby> assuming it is a program
[04:11] <bobby> file being whatever
[04:12] <jawshoewah> cool and to run after those commands?
[04:12] <bobby> erm...depends on what the program is
[04:12] <sethk> jawshoewah, whatever you installed, of course.
[04:12] <bimberi> s/make install/checkinstall/ ?
[04:12] <bobby> though really you should get all of your programs through synaptic
[04:12] <liable> sharn: wahts the error when you try and mount it?
[04:12] <bobby> bimberi, well if you've got time I guess...I normally skip it
[04:12] <liable> sharn: and whats the exact command you are using (paste it)
[04:12] <bobby> jawshoewah, what program are you installing?
[04:13] <sharn> the umount says /dev/hda2 not mounted
[04:13] <jawshoewah> astrolog and audioscrobbler
[04:13] <GameOver69> liable can i IM you so maybe u can help me?
[04:13] <sharn> sudo mount -o remount rw -t ext3 /dev/hda2
[04:13] <sharn> that was that one
[04:13] <sharn> as far as i know
[04:14] <bobby> jawshoewah, mmmm astrolog is a package you can isntall
[04:14] <liable> GameOver69: no, keep it in channel. (please)
[04:14] <edoardo> hi gals, hi dudes : )
[04:14] <edoardo> you guys, do you have an /etc/sysconfig/hotplug file in your tree? it's important : )
[04:14] <jawshoewah> you are familiar with it bobby?
[04:14] <GameOver69> what was that ocmmand for interfaces im supposed to enter
[04:14] <p337> liable: am i supposed to modprobe something else?
[04:14] <liable> sharn: no.  sudo mount /dev/hda2 /rescue
[04:14] <bobby> jawshoewah, not at all, just did aptitude search astrolog (similiar to searching for it in synaptic)
[04:14] <liable> p337: yes, but i cant find what driver it uses.
[04:14] <sharn> ok...
[04:14] <GameOver69> auto wlan?
[04:15] <jawshoewah> hmm im not familiar with aptitude
[04:15] <liable> GameOver69: in your interfaces file?
[04:15] <GameOver69> yes
[04:15] <bobby> jawshoewah, it is just a command line version of synaptic
[04:15] <jawshoewah> apt-get?
[04:15] <p337> http://tinyurl.com/ctsom  thats the one i installed
[04:15] <liable> a\\\gto have it come up at boot with dhcp?
[04:15] <bobby> jawshoewah, it is another (more advanced imo) version of apt-get
[04:15] <liable> p337: yes, but what is the module called?
[04:15] <p337> liable: something to do with realtek
[04:16] <jawshoewah> so will it check compatibility without installing?
[04:16] <bobby> jawshoewah, of course
[04:16] <GameOver69> what do i enter in interfaces liable?
[04:16] <p337> liable: i think it was rt2500
[04:16] <jawshoewah> wow
[04:16] <jawshoewah> i need to learn that
[04:16] <theverant> whoa... help crashed
[04:16] <liable> p337: thts for your wireless..
[04:16] <sharn> that one didnt do anything do i need to do the remount afterwards too?
[04:16] <liable> GameOver69: to come up at boot with dhcp?
[04:16] <LaserJock> what do I need to send email via console?
[04:16] <p337> liable: lol... oh really
[04:16] <bobby> jawshoewah, aptitude also checks to see if there are any packages that you aren't using any more either, so it tends to keep your system cleaner - but it is a bit confusing for newer users
[04:17] <p337> liable: then i haveno idea....
[04:17] <jawshoewah> is there a good wiki for it?
[04:17] <flodine> anyone have a intel 945 chip running ubuntu
[04:17] <GameOver69> i dont see any of that
[04:17] <GameOver69> im a newb sorry if i sound stupid
[04:17] <bobby> jawshoewah, I am not aware, man aptitude has all you need, but it is basically the same as apt-get...so like aptitude install package, aptitude search package etc
[04:17] <benplaut> there one big, huge, fatal flaw in middle-click paste
[04:18] <benplaut> you highlight something, then highlight what you want it to replace, and it gets rid of the first highlight >_>
[04:18] <jawshoewah> is it included in ubuntu kernel
[04:18] <liable> p337: poke around in /lib/modules/(your kernel)
[04:18] <bobby> jawshoewah, included in the kernel? no...but it comes with ubuntu
[04:18] <p337> liable: alright
[04:18] <liable> sharn: no
[04:18] <liable> sharn: thats fine
[04:18] <flodine> anyone have a intel 945 chip running ubuntu need to know if it works ok
[04:18] <sharn> if i reinstall windows with keeping all the old stuff is it going to do that or is it gonna be cinfused?
[04:18] <liable> sharn: please address me so i dont miss your comments
[04:18] <jawshoewah> so what is the command line for it?
[04:19] <GameOver69> liable: i dont see aynthing aobut boot in interfaces
[04:19] <flodine> anyone have pci express on ubuntu
[04:19] <slashx> hey
[04:19] <p337> liable: well i am in there, what should i be looking for?
[04:19] <slashx1896> forgot i was on this one
[04:19] <slashx1896> :P
[04:19] <Gunfus> does anyone know how to put my computer in standby?
[04:19] <flodine> ok is ubuntu for old computers or what
[04:19] <Gunfus> or suspend it..?
[04:19] <korptix_> hi i need help i just installed linux and i wanna install GCC
[04:19] <korptix_> i download it and cant seem to work it out.
[04:19] <slashx1896> how do i make a certian file executable on root through terminal?
[04:20] <Gunfus> korptix_, execute 'sudo apt-get gcc'
[04:20] <slashx1896> cause i cant normmaly so i gotta do sudo something
[04:20] <korptix_> sorry?
[04:20] <Gunfus> anyone..? computer to standby..?
[04:20] <jawshoewah> bobby: what is the command line text to run it?
[04:20] <korptix_> file name is gcc-4.0.2.tar.bz2
[04:20] <liable> p337: /lib/modules/2.6.14.2/kernel/sound/pci/    look for rlt or something
[04:20] <Gunfus> korptix_, if you have ubuntus just open a terminal and execute 'sudo apt-get gcc'
[04:20] <liable> sharn: sudo chroot /rescue
[04:20] <korptix_> k
[04:20] <slashx1896> whats the sudo command to edit files and make it exexcutable, ?
[04:21] <GameOver69> liable?
[04:21] <liable> sharn: chmod
[04:21] <liable> slashx1896: ^^
[04:21] <korptix_> execute 'sudo apt-get gcc'
[04:21] <korptix_> korptix@korptix:~/Desktop/objdir$ execute 'sudo apt-get gcc'
[04:21] <korptix_> bash: execute: command not found
[04:21] <liable> slashx1896: ignore that last comment
[04:21] <slashx1896> lol
[04:21] <flodine> can someone tell me if ubuntu will load on new 64 bit dual core stuff
[04:21] <SweetestSavage> korptix
[04:21] <slashx1896> wasnt for me..
[04:21] <SweetestSavage> korptix, just type sudo apt-get gcc
[04:21] <slashx1896> :\
[04:21] <liable> slashx1896: shit, sorry, you do it.
[04:21] <GameOver69> liable: i dont see anything about boot in interfaces?
[04:21] <korptix_> k
[04:21] <liable> sharn: you ignore the last comment
[04:21] <slashx1896> liable, im confused lol
[04:21] <p337> liable: http://pastebin.com/498773
[04:21] <slashx1896> ahh
[04:21] <slashx1896> so
[04:22] <slashx1896> chmod?
[04:22] <liable> slashx1896: nick tab misfires..
[04:22] <korptix_> korptix@korptix:~/Desktop/objdir$ sudo apt-get gcc
[04:22] <korptix_> Password:
[04:22] <korptix_> E: Invalid operation gcc
[04:22] <korptix_> korptix@korptix:~/Desktop/objdir$
[04:22] <liable> sharn: ???
[04:22] <slashx1896> liable, was chmod sent to me?
[04:22] <korptix_> ..
[04:22] <liable> slashx1896: yes
[04:22] <SweetestSavage> korptix_, oh whoops sorry, sudo apt-get install gcc
[04:22] <Gunfus> korptix_, type int eh password for your user ID
[04:22] <sharn> liable: i dunno if this helps but when i installed it with the default loader it said error 16 or 17
[04:23] <liable> p337: you need to go kernel/sound/pci ls
[04:23] <Gunfus> anyone suspend my PC..?
[04:23] <liable> sharn: where are you up to?
[04:23] <korptix_> k
[04:23] <gpm> hi. i just upgraded to dapper. my ipod used to mount automagically, now it shows up fine, but i have to mount it myself. is there anything i can do to get it to automount like it used to?
[04:23] <korptix_> how do i upgrad e ubuntu
[04:23] <korptix_> ?
[04:23] <p337> liable: i didnt see a sound directory
[04:23] <slashx1896> liable, chmod, what?
[04:23] <liable> GameOver69: you want it load at boot or not?
[04:23] <GameOver69> yes
[04:23] <liable> slashx1896: whatever file you want
[04:23] <narles> i have no idea how to open this file... blank.jar
[04:23] <liable> GameOver69: with dhcp?
[04:23] <sharn> liable: am i supposed to type chmod?
[04:24] <liable> sharn: no
[04:24] <gpm> narles: man java
[04:24] <korptix_> how do i upgrade ubuntu?
[04:24] <GameOver69> liable: but i dont see anything of what ur talking about in interfaces
[04:24] <sharn> liable: dangit im lost
[04:24] <liable> sharn: did you do the chroot?
[04:24] <SweetestSavage> korptix_, what version are you running?
[04:24] <Madpilot> narles: "java -jar foo.jar" in a terminal
[04:24] <sharn> liable: i didnt see that
[04:24] <gpm> narles: basically, java -jar blank.jar
[04:24] <liable> GameOver69: just answer my question and i'll tell you what to add.
[04:24] <LittleBoot> Is it just me?  It seems like Ubuntu has no root account.
[04:24] <slashx1896> liable: chmod: too few arguments
[04:24] <GameOver69> liable: yes i want it at boot
[04:24] <liable> GameOver69: /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz
[04:24] <gpm> LittleBoot: yes
[04:25] <_jason> ubotu, tell LittleBoot about root
[04:25] <liable> slashx1896: chmod +x
[04:25] <korptix_> i dotn know
[04:25] <korptix_> *dont know
[04:25] <liable> GameOver69: you use dhcp?
[04:25] <narles> Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from OT44src.jar
[04:25] <GameOver69> yes
[04:25] <GameOver69> liable:yes
[04:25] <liable> GameOver69: whats the iface name? wlan0?
[04:25] <sharn> liable: so type chroot?
[04:26] <GameOver69> liable: yes
[04:26] <liable> sharn: no
[04:26] <narles> when i do java -jar blank,jar.. i get Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from OT44src.jar
[04:26] <sharn> dangit
[04:26] <liable> sharn: sudo chroot /rescue
[04:26] <korptix_> SweetestSavage: i dont know!!!
[04:26] <sharn> ok ty
[04:26] <liable> GameOver69: two lines
[04:26] <SweetestSavage> korptix_, to update use sudo apt-get update, and then type sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:26] <liable> GameOver69: auto wlan0
[04:26] <slashx1896> liable, k thanks, and also the file has a lil lock sign how do i get rid of it
[04:26] <korptix_> k
[04:26] <liable> GameOver69: ifacw wlan0 inet dhcp
[04:26] <liable> GameOver69: err iface
[04:27] <SweetestSavage> Question: How stable is Dapper Drake? I've been pondering in dist-updgrading
[04:27] <GameOver69> liable: put this at the end of the document
[04:27] <SweetestSavage> upgrading*
[04:27] <sharn> liable: k now it says root@ubuntu
[04:27] <slashx1896> liable, or what does it mean
[04:27] <liable> slashx1896: you dont have read perm
[04:27] <sharn> liable: is that what it was supposed to do?
[04:27] <liable> sharn: yep
[04:27] <sharn> ok
[04:27] <liable> sharn: grub-install /dev/hda
[04:28] <liable> sharn: sudo in front of that
[04:28] <nemik> have any of you attending university gotten wpa_supplicant to work with your network? driving me crazy over here
[04:28] <liable> p337: ??
[04:28] <korptix_> korptix@korptix:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get update
[04:28] <korptix_> Reading package lists... Done
[04:28] <korptix_> korptix@korptix:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:28] <korptix_> Reading package lists... Done
[04:28] <korptix_> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:28] <korptix_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:28] <korptix_> korptix@korptix:~/Desktop$
[04:28] <GameOver69> liable: this all goes at the end of th document?
[04:28] <korptix_> and
[04:28] <korptix_> korptix@korptix:~/Desktop$ uname -a
[04:28] <korptix_> Linux korptix 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:28] <korptix_> korptix@korptix:~/Desktop$
[04:29] <kyncani> #FLOOD !!!
[04:29] <narles> when i do java -jar blank,jar.. i get Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from OT44src.jar
[04:29] <korptix_> ..
[04:29] <liable> GameOver69: under the eth0 stuff
[04:29] <liable> GameOver69: doesnt really matter actually
[04:29] <GameOver69> liable: ok i will try now
[04:29] <liable> GameOver69: then paste it
[04:30] <korptix_> well?
[04:30] <sharn> liable: unable to lookup ubunto vie gethostbyname()
[04:30] <sharn> liable: via*
[04:30] <korptix_> also is there any p2p software for linux ?
[04:31] <liable> sharn: ok, thats when you ran grub-install?
[04:31] <alekandr> I beg of someone, needed help before explosion :(
[04:31] <sharn> liable: yes
[04:31] <_jason> alekandr, we can try if you ask a question
[04:31] <timfrost> ubotu tell korptix_ about pastebin
[04:31] <alekandr> I just rebooted after being a dick and trying to open a 500mb sh file and freezing pretty much everything due to cpuoverload
[04:31] <narles> when i do java -jar blank,jar.. i get Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from OT44src.jar... how do i fix this
[04:32] <alekandr> and now ive logged back in (breezy gnome) and it keeps fucking making this noise
[04:32] <liable> sharn: ok, sudo mount /proc
[04:32] <alekandr> like a fairy tinkle
[04:32] <p337> liable: lol... i accidently switched over to the kubuntu channle and i thought you had left....
[04:32] <alekandr> and wont go away
[04:32] <alekandr> nothing is running, so where is this sound coming from?
[04:32] <korptix_> ..
[04:32] <timfrost> korptix_, can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list (see the message from ubotu).
[04:32] <_jason> alekandr, you try rebooting?
[04:32] <goose> hey guys... http://www.ubuntu.com/Screenshots   <-- i am pretty sure this did not look like this earlier
[04:33] <alekandr> i just did _jason
[04:33] <p337> liable: there is no /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-286/sound though
[04:33] <goose> has it been hacked or something?
[04:33] <liable> p337: did you find anything?
[04:33] <sharn> liable: says the same thing as grub-install
[04:33] <liable> p337: /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/sound...
[04:33] <p337> hahaha
[04:33] <p337> oh...
[04:33] <p337> man.. i am a little slow today
[04:34] <GameOver69> liable: didnt work
[04:34] <p337> liable: ok im there
[04:34] <p337> liable: drivers?
[04:34] <liable> p337: pci
[04:34] <alekandr> oh man
[04:34] <alekandr> :( tinkled again
[04:34] <sharn> you know im om a diff comp let me get on on the one im working on
[04:34] <liable> GameOver69: buuger, try ifup wlan0 (paste the file)
[04:34] <_jason> alekandr, you heard the twinkle and then rebooted again and it persisted?  have you tried a different user?
[04:34] <p337> liable: i dont see a pci maybe pcmcia?
[04:35] <Linux2> how stable is kubuntu?
[04:35] <alekandr> _jason: there is only one account ;)
[04:35] <liable> p337: not pcmcia, but poka around anyway..
[04:35] <GameOver69> liable: what do u mean paste the file?
[04:35] <liable> GameOver69: put it on a paster
[04:35] <liable> GameOver69: the contents
[04:35] <puff> Anybody remember where in /etc the iptables config would be?
[04:36] <p337> liable: should i paste the ls?
[04:36] <sampan> linuxmonk  kubuntu is stable as long as you don't install the testing version (dapper) -- stick with breezy and it's fine
[04:36] <_jason> alekandr, get rid of the ubuntu startup sound and see if it goes away when you restart X.  The twinkle sounds like that could be it
[04:36] <koruptpryde> anybody know the package name to get the perl package manager installed   (ppm)
[04:36] <liable> p337: no, just look for realtek looking modules :)
[04:36] <LinuxMonk> yeah im debating between gentoo and kubuntu
[04:37] <puff> Specifically, I'm trying to use a local proxy server and it seems to be having trouble getting out, I'm wondering if maybe I have a tcp/ip level firewall blocking it.
[04:37] <GameOver69> liable: i cant find the file you speak of
[04:37] <liable> puff: ubuntu doesnt have one by default
[04:37] <sampan> linuxmonk  well kubuntu will be installed faster that's for sure -- no need to compile it all ;)
[04:37] <LinuxMonk> i got the base of gentoo installed but seing how many apps id have to manually install has me scared
[04:37] <ubuntu_> ok liable i am on the comp im having troubles on
[04:37] <Knowerrors> Hey all, just installed opera deb from plf repos, all plugins working except acrobat, can anybody help?  I used the advice on this wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser?highlight=%28opera%29 about it and still didn't work
[04:37] <liable> GameOver69: the interfaces file! where did you write those two lines i gave you?
[04:37] <johnnybezak> Toma: ok i'll give xgamma a go
[04:38] <puff> I don't see anything obvious in "sudo iptables --list"
[04:38] <GameOver69> liable: the interacfe file
[04:38] <gpm> hi. i just upgraded to dapper. my ipod used to mount automagically, now it shows up fine, but i have to mount it myself. is there anything i can do to get it to automount like it used to?
[04:38] <necron> i'm trying to make a bootdisk with sbootmgr.disk with rawritewin, why is my disk still not booting
[04:38] <jdcaserockies> What's the right driver to use for an ATI radeon 9800 pro?
[04:38] <liable> sharn: why did you leave?
[04:38] <p337> liable:  well... im gonna work on this later... i am too tired right now
[04:38] <LinuxMonk> since im gonna wanna do some different stuff with my server i'll just go forward to kubuntu
[04:38] <p337> liable: thanks for your help
[04:39] <liable> p337: righto, no problem
[04:39] <jdcaserockies> what driver should be used for ati video cards?
[04:39] <puff> liable: Ah, thanks... any other reason it would be blocked?  I'm getting an answer from the local proxy server, but the proxy is reporting unable to get through on port 80 to anhwere.
[04:39] <errr> anyone happen to know which font package contains "matto"
[04:39] <liable> GameOver69: paste the contents of your interfaces file
[04:39] <jawshoewah> using tar is extremley frustrating
[04:39] <GameOver69> liable: paste it into the command terminal?
[04:39] <liable> puff: not your isp??
[04:39] <liable> !paste
[04:39] <ubotu> paste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[04:39] <sharn8> liable: ok this is sharn on the compi am working on
[04:39] <liable> GameOver69: ^^
[04:39] <johnnybezak> Toma: haha it's much brighter, it's hard to tell if it's too bright though because I'm not used to it looking so bright
[04:40] <liable> sharn8: on the ubuntu one?
[04:40] <LinuxMonk> sampan does kubuntu support software raid fairly easely?
[04:40] <sharn8> yes
[04:40] <GameOver69> liable: im on another computer if u want me to paste it in here for you
[04:40] <puff> liable: Yeah, pretty sure not.  From the networks' point of view it's just another http client, no?
[04:40] <sharn8> liable: yes in case you didnt catch it
[04:41] <sampan> linuxmonk  i dunno about raid -- but the software support seems good to me
[04:41] <liable> sharn8: /j #liable
[04:41] <liable> puff: hrm dunno
[04:41] <Toma-> johnnybezak: cool :) try different number values
[04:41] <necron> using rawritewin - and i choose 'sbootmgr.dsk' - click 'write' - disk doesn't boot - am i missing something?
[04:41] <liable> GameOver69: ifup wlan0 does nothing?
[04:41] <LinuxMonk> i guess its like ubuntu but kde instead of gnome right
[04:42] <sampan> linuxmonk  yep.  you can get there either by just installing kubuntu or by installing ubuntu and then installing kubuntu-desktop (metapackage).  second way gives you kde and gnome.
[04:42] <johnnybezak> Toma-: it seems like it's mainly my blacks that are so dark, do you know any other things to tweek?
[04:42] <GameOver69> liable: i put that in interfaces or in the terminal?
[04:43] <LinuxMonk> yeah i dont like gnome as much
[04:43] <LinuxMonk> im used to kde
[04:43] <Toma-> johnnybezak: yeh, that xgamma command can turnup just individual colours too, eg, r g b
[04:43] <LinuxMonk> hehe being i'm on it at work 7 to 8 hours a day thanks to me.
[04:44] <sampan> linuxmonk  me too, flexibility is a good thing!  :)  #kubuntu is a smaller chan (which is both good and bad -- less frenetic than here, but sometimes less people around to help too)
[04:44] <liable> GameOver69: terminal, sudo first
[04:44] <johnnybezak> Toma-: wow you're a life saver man, i was considering cracking the top off it
[04:44] <jawshoewah> ok I really need help installing programs from tar.gz it's insanely unorthodox
[04:44] <LinuxMonk> yeah see if I need any support it be regarding the base system and kernel so no worries there
[04:45] <damasta> ./configure
[04:45] <Toma-> haha. my monitor went on the brink a few months ago and i just put up with it, till i cranked the gamma, it had a new lease on life ;)
[04:45] <GameOver69> liable: says too few paramaters for iface line
[04:45] <damasta> make
[04:45] <damasta> sudo make install
[04:45] <GameOver69> liable: ifup: coudlnt read interfaces file
[04:45] <nekostar> oi :D
[04:45] <timfrost> jawshoewah, what are you trying to install?
[04:45] <johnnybezak> Toma-: what do you think i should tweak for making the darker colours brighter?
[04:45] <Toma-> gimp ;)
[04:45] <liable> GameOver69: well, i need to see that file
[04:45] <nekostar> anyone got a good link for custom openbox menus and a panel?
[04:46] <jawshoewah> astrolog and a plugin for rythmbox
[04:46] <Toma-> johnnybezak: you mean like contrast?
[04:46] <nekostar> [a way to autoexecute the panel with openbox plz]  :D
[04:46] <GameOver69> liable: well if we can get any of my 2 wireless connectiosn to work or my ethernet then i can
[04:46] <timfrost> jawshoewah, have you built software on othe linux/unix systems before?
[04:46] <liable> GameOver69: plug in your ethernet, run ifconfig eth0 up, dhclient eth0
[04:46] <jawshoewah> no
[04:47] <duckdown> Hey all.. I'm trying to compile a KDE ftp client, but its saying KDE headers not found
[04:47] <duckdown> which package is that
[04:47] <GameOver69> liable: in terminal w/. sudo?
[04:47] <liable> GameOver69: yes
[04:47] <jawshoewah> i aspire to be able to write software someday
[04:47] <necron> when i do "rawrite -f sboogmgr.dsk" why does my floppy still not boot
[04:47] <johnnybezak> Toma-: yeah i suppose so :P
[04:47] <duckdown> Also, is there any way to get more packages?  Tons of KDE apps I'm interested in aren't in aptitude :(
[04:48] <johnnybezak> duckdown: like what?
[04:48] <revmoo> hey guys.......I have a really annoying problem. When i took out my soundcard and switched back to the motherboards builtin soundcard I lost the ability to control the volume with the volume slider in the tray. None of the items I select(there is master mono but no stereo wtf?) enable me to adjust the volume. Please help this has been bothering me for a while now.
[04:48] <Toma-> johnnybezak: you could probably use a different colour map? never done that before
[04:48] <duckdown> johnnybezak: for starters an FTP client.. kbear or kasablanca
[04:48] <duckdown> neither are in adept
[04:48] <Toma-> duckdown: have you enabled universe?
[04:48] <Toma-> !info kbear
[04:48] <ubotu> kbear: (graphical ftp client for KDE), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.1.1-9build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 2416 kB, Installed size: 8568 kB
[04:48] <duckdown> i just did a bare 650mb install and im missing TONS of stuff from aptitude and i dont know why
[04:48] <johnnybezak> duckdown: you haven't set up apt properly
[04:49] <duckdown> Toma-: ohh i knew i was missing something huge
[04:49] <Toma-> duckdown: teeehehehe ;D
[04:49] <duckdown> Toma-: where can I read up on how to do that?
[04:49] <Toma-> !universe
[04:49] <johnnybezak> duckdown: open up your sources.list and uncomment universe and multiverse
[04:49] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:49] <duckdown> I'm a new user =)
[04:49] <duckdown> Thank you sir
[04:49] <Toma-> no probs chap
[04:49] <timfrost> If you have installed build-essential, the steps are: extract (tar xvzf file.tgz or tar xvjf file.tar.bz2); configure (./configure); compile (make); install (sudo make install)
[04:49] <GameOver69> liable: can u give me that command again plz for the ethernet
[04:49] <johnnybezak> Toma-: how do you do that?
[04:49] <Toma-> pssssssst, dont use make isntall. use "checkinstall"
[04:50] <Toma-> johnnybezak: no idea. :/
[04:50] <revmoo> hey guys.......I have a really annoying problem. When i took out my soundcard and switched back to the motherboards builtin soundcard I lost the ability to control the volume with the volume slider in the tray. None of the items I select(there is master mono but no stereo wtf?) enable me to adjust the volume. Please help this has been bothering me for a while now.
[04:50] <liable> GameOver69: sudo ifconfig eth0 up && dhclient eth0
[04:51] <storm> this is one good page http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92672
[04:51] <storm> Good afternoon everyone
[04:51] <Toma-> plf make debs now?
[04:51] <storm> this is my first time in Ubuntu IRC
[04:52] <__mikem> Could someone help me with a bit of printer trouble
[04:52] <uber_spaced> is there an mplayer apt package?
[04:52] <_jason> ubotu, tell uber_spaced about mplayer
[04:52] <bimberi> revmoo: System -> Preferences -> Sound, is Default Sound Card set right?
[04:52] <storm> i dont know about sources.list, but the link i pasted above (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92672)
[04:52] <uber_spaced> _jason, thanks
[04:52] <storm> gives very good one
[04:52] <__mikem> I need help with a bit if printer trouble
[04:53] <necron> oh crud, it hurts so bad... 3 hours later and i still don't have the system booted... might as well buy suse
[04:53] <jawshoewah> ok the help file in the package has NO information on installation neither does website....i have verified it is an authenitc program functional on my system i have done the tar unpake i am in its directory there is no ./configure available
[04:53] <__mikem> anyone?
[04:53] <GameOver69> liable: two things.... one my wireless light just went on my laptop.. but still doesnt work...s ame problem
[04:53] <storm> what is your printer trouble
[04:53] <_jason> jawshoewah, what are you installing?
[04:53] <GameOver69> liable: and i get this after i did what u told me
[04:53] <jawshoewah> astrolog
[04:53] <_jason> __mikem, have you tried linuxprinting.org?
[04:53] <GameOver69> liable: no DHCPoffers received
[04:53] <GameOver69> liable: no working leases in persistant database - sleeping
[04:53] <liable> GameOver69: then double check your router has dhcp server running
[04:53] <__mikem> Thankyou, basicly, I installed the printer, and it wouldn't print a test page, so I went into the printer properties
[04:54] <tr011_> hi every body
[04:54] <__mikem> and found that the user name and password supplied (this printer is over a LAN) was not what I specified when installing the printer
[04:54] <__mikem> so I reset the password, and printed the test page, and it worked fine
[04:54] <Toma-> jawshoewah: what package did you download?
[04:54] <__mikem> then I opened OpenOffice and tried to print from there, and it didn't work
[04:54] <timfrost> jawshoewah, astrolog is in the breezy repositroy, if you enable multiverse.
[04:55] <jawshoewah> its version 5.20
[04:55] <__mikem> I went back tothe printer properties (on a hunch) and found that the user name/ password was again nolonger set to what I specified
[04:55] <Frederick> folks wich is ubuntu equivalent to dhcpcd?
[04:55] <jawshoewah> I have multiverse enabled but im noob when it comes to finding what I want i also have breezy i believe
[04:55] <Toma-> oh no! im late for work :/ *gone*
[04:55] <__mikem> did you get all that
[04:56] <LinuxMonk> lmao
[04:56] <duckdown> Cool I just had to click some stuff in Synaptic for Universe?
[04:56] <duckdown> How convenient :-D
[04:56] <uber_spaced> i have my sources.list open and I cant find multiverse in there; where do i enable multiverse?
[04:56] <__mikem> did anyone read all that
[04:56] <jawshoewah> so i can find it in update manager?
[04:56] <damasta> Add it to the end of the universe line
[04:56] <storm> yeah i read
[04:56] <_jason> uber_spaced, pastebin your sources.list
[04:56] <duckdown> Do I need MULTIVERSE too?
[04:56] <storm> i am still thinking
[04:56] <_jason> ubotu, tell uber_spaced about pastebin
[04:56] <Frederick> duckdown, nope
[04:57] <damasta> You don't need it but it may be of use
[04:57] <duckdown> hmm.
[04:57] <__mikem> any ideas how to get it to use the username/password I specify rather than reseting it every time I close properties?
[04:57] <duckdown> no multiverse entries in Synaptic
[04:57] <duckdown> :-(
[04:57] <necron> does anyone have a guide for creating a bootable smart boot manager floppy other than the one at wiki.ubuntu.com?
[04:57] <_jason> duckdown, you have to go to "add" when you are selecting repos and enable multiverse
[04:57] <_jason> ubotu, tell duckdown about repos
[04:58] <narles> when i do java -jar blank,jar.. i get Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from OT44src.jar... how do i fix this?
[04:58] <duckdown> Thanks I'll do some reading :)
[04:58] <__mikem> please, I really need this printer up
[04:58] <jawshoewah> ubot, tell jawshoewah about repos
[04:58] <uber_spaced> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6869
[04:58] <jawshoewah> ubotu, tell jawshoewah about repos
[04:58] <__mikem> storm
[04:58] <__mikem> ?
[04:59] <storm> yeah
[04:59] <uber_spaced> rather, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6869
[04:59] <storm> give me a while
[04:59] <storm> by the way, have u google for help
[04:59] <__mikem> Yup, I got nothing on the problem
[04:59] <__mikem> from google
[04:59] <_jason> uber_spaced, add the word " multiverse" to the end of lines 20,21,26, and 27
[05:00] <necron> can anyone give me help with a non-standard problematic install? can't boot off CD! only been working on this for 3 hours now!
[05:00] <storm> what is your smb.conf
[05:00] <z|bandito> are there known issues with ubuntu live on amd64 dual core cpu's?
[05:00] <__mikem> how do I find out
[05:00] <z|bandito> i can't get the live cd to boot
[05:00] <uber_spaced> sweet
[05:00] <uber_spaced> thanks
[05:00] <_jason> uber_spaced,  be sure to run 'sudo apt-get update' once you finish
[05:00] <Frederick> folks wich is the equivalent to pump at ubuntu?
[05:01] <_jason> uber_spaced, np
[05:01] <revmoo> bimberi: yes, the sound card is set as default as it should be (sorry for the delay)
[05:01] <kyncani> Frederick: dhclient :D
[05:01] <kyncani> :))
[05:01] <revmoo> im getting sound, listening to mp3s now, i just cant use the volume slider applet to control anything
[05:02] <__mikem> storm, how do I check smb.conf
[05:02] <jawshoewah> any help with this install would be awesomely recieved
[05:02] <jawshoewah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6870\
[05:02] <bimberi> revmoo: ok (it was a bit of a guess) and np (i lost my connection anyway :) )
[05:02] <jawshoewah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6870
[05:02] <revmoo> hehe
[05:02] <ethan> hi
[05:02] <ethan> hi
[05:02] <ethan> hi
[05:02] <revmoo> sup ethan
[05:02] <uber_spaced> _jason, it's getting the multiverse stuff :)
[05:02] <ethan> hi revmoo = )
[05:03] <uber_spaced> if you have any perl questions or anything, lemme know.
[05:03] <__mikem> getting tech support from this room is about as easy as performing dental work on an aligator
[05:03] <storm> i think it is under /usr/share/samba
[05:03] <revmoo> also while im here, does anyone know a good multi-monitor guide? i have a dualhead 6800
[05:03] <__mikem> thanks
[05:03] <necron> __mikem: i agree
[05:03] <__mikem> yes it is
[05:04] <_jason> jawshoewah, have you read the readme?
[05:04] <__mikem> ok, I have it open, what line specificly do you want me to check
[05:04] <robotgeek> __mikem: i'll bite, what are you having problems with?
[05:05] <jawshoewah> yes theree is no instructions for install im at synaptic i found it there I am going to see if it will do it for me as much as i want to learn how to use tar
[05:05] <__mikem> I am trying to install a printer over a lan, and I can't get it to save the username/password I type in
[05:05] <saotome_> ok
[05:05] <saotome_> disclaimer:
[05:05] <GameOver69> liable: it works because im on a computer thats running off it now... this
[05:05] <saotome_> please stop me when i start saying something very stupid
[05:06] <_jason> jawshoewah, try cd src and then run make
[05:06] <z|bandito> stop!!
[05:06] <__mikem> every time, I enter the correct username/password in the properties, I can print a test page fine, but the moment I close properties, the changes are disguarded
[05:06] <MrPockets> whats the command to restart the gnome panel?
[05:06] <jawshoewah> thanks jason will do
[05:06] <pschulz01> Is there a 'nice' way to copy files between systems as root? I'm used to 'tar' but how do I get access to a system as root to do this?
[05:06] <MrPockets> killall -hu gnome-panel?
[05:06] <_jason> MrPockets, killall gnome-panel will do just fine too
[05:07] <z|bandito> hi.  are there any known issues with ubuntu on amd 64, specifically dual core cpu?
[05:07] <liable> GameOver69: well, its not getting a lease from the server.. try another client
[05:07] <pschulz01> eg. ssh root@host tar cjvf - -C dir . | tar xjpvf -
[05:07] <z|bandito> and is this the real #ubuntu or the 'not identified' channel?  or is it all the same now?
[05:07] <MrPockets> thanks
[05:07] <DJLILYAZI> _jason, hi jason i dont know what to do with the live cd from the last time u told me
[05:07] <GameOver69> liable: by antoher client what od u mean?
[05:07] <liable> dh3client, pump
[05:07] <DJLILYAZI> _jason, since i had no admin when i typed the "groups" command
[05:07] <GameOver69> liable: i had no problems yestyerday with my internal wireless card... worked perefectly
[05:07] <_jason> DJLILYAZI, were you the one that need to add himself to the admin group
[05:07] <Kr0ntab> anyone using Kubuntu abd GnuCash?  GnuCash does not remember window positioning or size... and I'm trying to figure out how to get KDE's window specific properties to maximize the GnuCash window upon opening it.
[05:07] <liable> GameOver69: i dunno if you have them installed
[05:08] <GameOver69> liable: when i installed the new card... worked perfectly
[05:08] <liable> GameOver69: dunno then sorry
[05:08] <_jason> DJLILYAZI, are you on the livecd now?
[05:08] <GameOver69> liable: when i restarted.... nothing
[05:08] <DJLILYAZI> _jason, "herself" but yes
[05:08] <DJLILYAZI> _jason, no i will do will be in one min
[05:08] <DJLILYAZI> _jason, wait ok ?
[05:08] <_jason> DJLILYAZI, sure
[05:08] <GameOver69> liable: is there anyway i can enable it without boot..... i dont understand why it doesnt work anymore
[05:08] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! I read about dyne:bolic (http://dynebolic.org/) on /. today, downloaded it and boot from it and got this question: what have i to change in ubuntu to get at least the same speed on launching programs and .. as I get from a live dynebolic distro? (knoppix does not offer the same speed) thanks
[05:09] <Kr0ntab> I talked to the deveoper... and window positioning will be introduced in the next major release....  so Im trying to find a way to do it otherwise until then.
[05:09] <__mikem> I expected that Robotgeek would try helping me when I told him what the problem was, but I guess its foolish to have such optomistic preminissions around here
[05:09] <Kr0ntab> developer*
[05:09] <robotgeek> __mikem: hmm, did you hilite me?
[05:09] <storm> HAHAH
[05:09] <liable> GameOver69: the only thing i can think of is to set a static ip.
[05:09] <storm> by the way, are u sharing the printer with window user
[05:09] <Locke> what is the best distro of Linux for a slow computer.... and i mean... SLOOOOW, 133 MHz, all i'm looking for is command line and internet capable
[05:09] <drcurl>  /join #kde
[05:09] <robotgeek> __mikem: anyways, i scrolled up, i dunno anything about printers, sorry
[05:10] <storm> robo
[05:10] <GameOver69> liable: how do i do that
[05:10] <necron> robotgeek: can i got next?
[05:10] <sethk> Locke, it isn't a distro.  it's just a matter of installing only the minimal amount of stuff
[05:10] <__mikem> yes
[05:10] <__mikem> I am
[05:10] <liable> GameOver69: with ifconfig and route.
[05:10] <robotgeek> necron: sure :)
[05:10] <Locke> sethk: well, when i installed Ubuntu it didn't have the largest selection of options
[05:10] <storm> check out this site: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/300
[05:10] <sethk> Locke, you didn't install in expert mode
[05:11] <liable> GameOver69: ifconfig 192.168.x.x wlan0 up
[05:11] <storm> personally i am not using ANY window machine on my network
[05:11] <necron> robotgeek: heh, thanks - trying to get sbootmgr onto a cd so i can start my install
[05:11] <Locke> sethk: ah, true, ok
[05:11] <storm> window sometimes suck
[05:11] <liable> GameOver69: route add default gw 192.168.x.1
[05:11] <sethk> Locke, I like slackware for minimal
[05:11] <robotgeek> necron: sbootmgr?
[05:11] <storm> so i dont face printer problem yer
[05:11] <storm> yet
[05:11] <sethk> Locke, but, really, if you are careful you'll get about the same results from all
[05:12] <necron> robotgeek: smart boot manager, if you have a way to get the cd going without a bootable cd drive i'd welcome suggestions
[05:12] <__mikem> This artical, doesn't address the problem I am having
[05:12] <storm> mikem, did u get my link?
[05:12] <necron> robotgeek: the cd is bootable, just not from the ubuntu cd
[05:12] <__mikem> yES
[05:12] <__mikem> I looked at it
[05:12] <Locke> sethk: well, i just want something to put as a file server, i have an ooooold Dell optiron and i was just gonna use it to hold all my music
[05:12] <GameOver69> liable: do u think uninstalling ndiswrapper would help
[05:12] <anandaputra> talking bout printer.. how to share a printer in my ubuntu box using cups? when i add a new printer in ubuntu box, is tahat automaticaly shared by cups??
[05:13] <robotgeek> necron: bootable cdrom or *cd*. AFAIK, there's nothing like a bootable cdrom
[05:13] <revmoo> someone tell me about dual displays on nvidia
[05:13] <Crema10> hello, do i have to download a css package to watch DVDs on Xine?
[05:13] <liable> GameOver69: i dunno. run ifconfig -a and take down all the cards except your wired one (ifconfig eth0 down)
[05:13] <robotgeek> revmoo: xinerama, i think. i dunno more than that
[05:13] <revmoo> k
[05:13] <lemur> What is the package name for all the dev tools?
[05:13] <necron> robotgeek: sorry, my cd drive is bootable, but i can't boot the ubuntu cd with it (nor can i boot an XP cd) I can boot SuSE 9.1
[05:14] <__mikem> I will say again, the problem is, I go into properties, I give it the correct username/password, successfully print a test page. THen I close properties. SUddenly, printing doesn't work. I go back into properties, and find that it is still not using the username/password I specified
[05:14] <robotgeek> necron: did you burn the cd yourself??
[05:14] <cafuego> lemur: the basics are in build-essential.
[05:14] <necron> robogeek: yes, and it boots on my main machine just fine
[05:14] <cafuego> lemur: You may aso need dpkg-dev
[05:14] <lemur> cafuego: why thank you
[05:14] <storm> hey mikem, i think you type your problem into a text editor. Then whenever u need to repeat, just copy and paste
[05:15] <robotgeek> necron: interesting, so it doesn't work on the PC you are trying to installing?
[05:15] <GameOver69> liable: for iconfig it says command not found
[05:15] <__mikem> yes very nice, but a solution to my problem would be good
[05:15] <liable> GameOver69: sudo
[05:15] <robotgeek> GameOver69: ifconfig
[05:15] <DJLILYAZI> _jason, hi
[05:15] <necron> robotgeek: correct, i've been trying to make a bootdisk that lets me use the cd drive, but can't get it to boot (sbootmgr.dsk to a floppy using rawrite)
[05:16] <storm> *hahha... unfortunately i didnt meet this problem... so i am just helping you with what i know
[05:16] <dooglus> the unrar-nonfree package has disappeared.  it was in breezy, but not in dapper.  is that deliberate?  and if so, where can I find it?
[05:16] <_jason> DJLILYAZI, hi, can you mount your partition ok?
[05:16] <WhyvasLT> THE ANSWER IS 7!!!!!
[05:16] <benplaut> is there any way to compile notepad2 for linux? it looks like an awesome editor
[05:16] <cafuego> lemur: because I helped?
[05:16] <lemur> cafuego: of course
[05:16] <_jason> WhyvasLT, 7*6 you mean
[05:16] <DJLILYAZI> _jason, i am on LIVEEE CD NOW :)
[05:17] <GameOver69> liable: ok it shows a list of my internet connectiosn
[05:17] <WhyvasLT> NO
[05:17] <DJLILYAZI> _jason, so what do i have to do now ?
[05:17] <WhyvasLT> THE ANSWER IS 7!!!!!
[05:17] <robotgeek> necron: so, you are trying to make a boot flopppy
[05:17] <w00tz> hi
[05:17] <w00tz> i download WINR
[05:17] <robotgeek> WhyvasLT: please stop spamming
[05:17] <cafuego> benplaut: Does it use gtk?
[05:17] <w00tz> *WINE
[05:17] <saotome_> any mysql knowledgeable people here?
[05:17] <Crema10> damn, Xine froze on me.. my DVD wont even eject.. what do i do?
[05:17] <benplaut> cafuego: i doubt it
[05:17] <w00tz> and i get this error when i go to edit the file
[05:17] <saotome_> the poeople in the mysql channel aren't very warm
[05:17] <liable> GameOver69: ifconfig xxx0 down, except the wired one
[05:17] <dooglus> saotome_: some, but not as many as in #mysql...
[05:17] <w00tz>  [ Error writing /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied ] 
[05:17] <liable> GameOver69: and except lo
[05:17] <necron> robotgeek: only because i saw it as my only alternative to trying to get a cd to boot... i think i can boot off the network card too but i've never attepted it
[05:17] <Madpilot> Crema10: try "sudo eject" in a terminal] 
[05:17] <saotome_> dooglus: precisely my problem
[05:17] <_jason> DJLILYAZI, do you know where your linux partition is? hda1? hda2? etc?
[05:17] <w00tz> http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[05:17] <saotome_> dooglus: just came from there
[05:17] <dooglus> w00tz: use "sudo gedit" to edit it
[05:18] <w00tz> k
[05:18] <benplaut> my holy-grail text editor: gedit + option to disable tabs +option to rename tabs + movable toolbar icons + windows support
[05:18] <dooglus> saotome_: so what's up?
[05:18] <storm> one more thing mikem, are u using gnome?
[05:18] <w00tz> so whats the whole command ?
[05:18] <Crema10> Madpilot: i'm a newbie, whats the command?
[05:18] <FlannelKing> saotome_, Ive found #sql to be more friendly than mysql, but whats the problem?
[05:18] <DJLILYAZI> _jason, hda2
[05:18] <necron> robotgeek: i'm just trying to install, if you have other options to what i'm doing i'm open to suggestion
[05:18] <robotgeek> necron: www.etherboot.org, i think
[05:18] <cafuego> benplaut: Too bad bbedit only runs on OSX :-(
[05:18] <saotome_> dooglus: can i put a case statement inside a create view
[05:18] <saotome_> is that legal?
[05:18] <_jason> DJLILYAZI, ok, mount that somewhere
[05:18] <DJLILYAZI> _jason, sorry but how i am a newbie...sorry...
[05:18] <dooglus> saotome_: that's more advanced than me :)
[05:19] <GameOver69> liable: do i also put "lo" down as well
[05:19] <saotome_> lol
[05:19] <benplaut> cafuego: aye :(
[05:19] <saotome_> don't underestimate yourself
[05:19] <dooglus> saotome_: I didn't know SQL had a case statement...
[05:19] <liable> GameOver69: nope
[05:19] <saotome_> not very advanced myself
[05:19] <saotome_> yep
[05:19] <saotome_> basically it's an if
[05:19] <GameOver69> liable: ok done then
[05:19] <saotome_> just different syntax
[05:19] <necron> robotgeek: right on, i'll give that a whirl... thanks for the help
[05:19] <robotgeek> necron: try the netinstall, i guess. i havent managedto get it install that way when i tried 6 months ago
[05:19] <_jason> DJLILYAZI, np, open up a terminal and do: sudo mkdir /mnt/linux
[05:19] <liable> GameOver69: the wired one is still up?
[05:19] <w00tz> done
[05:19] <saotome_> FlannelKing: how about you?
[05:19] <w00tz> now i get this error
[05:19] <w00tz> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:19] <w00tz> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[05:19] <robotgeek> necron: no problem, keep me updated
[05:19] <w00tz> after i typed "apt-get update"
[05:19] <tr011> w00tz, did you used 'sudo' ?
[05:20] <w00tz> yes
[05:20] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell w00tz about sudo
[05:20] <w00tz> i edited it
[05:20] <DJLILYAZI> _jason, ok i did that
[05:20] <w00tz> ..
[05:20] <GameOver69> liable: they all still show
[05:20] <storm> mikem, u still there?
[05:20] <_jason> DJLILYAZI, ok now: mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/linux
[05:20] <robotgeek> w00tz: the sudoers file?
[05:20] <w00tz> wtf u on about ?
[05:20] <w00tz> it sayz i dont have root
[05:20] <w00tz> when i just installed the thing
[05:20] <liable> GameOver69: with ifconfig -a? or just ifconfig?
[05:20] <__mikem> yes
[05:20] <tr011> w00tz, and are you shure that you are not runing any other appz that use the apt ? like sinaptic ?
[05:20] <w00tz> i added myself i am root owner
[05:20] <w00tz> no
[05:21] <GameOver69> liable: with -a
[05:21] <liable> GameOver69: thats ok
[05:21] <dooglus> saotome_: what statements can you use 'case' with?
[05:21] <damasta> try sudo killall synaptic
[05:21] <GameOver69> liable: so whats next
[05:21] <damasta> then apt-get update again
[05:21] <w00tz> k
[05:21] <liable> GameOver69: what iface is left?
[05:21] <robotgeek> w00tz: what do you mean, " iadded myself to root"
[05:21] <w00tz> wtf do u mean
[05:21] <w00tz> i instaleld linux
[05:21] <w00tz> so arnt i root ?
[05:21] <DJLILYAZI> _jason, this is what i got ....mount: can't find /dev/hda2/mnt/linux in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[05:21] <sampan> roots are for trees!  save the trees! use sudo!
[05:22] <robotgeek> sampan: :)
[05:22] <GameOver69> liable: if by iface u mean ethernet... the only one i didnt get rid of is eth1
[05:22] <w00tz> damasta: not working
[05:22] <sampan> ;X
[05:22] <_jason> DJLILYAZI, you forgot the space after hda2
[05:22] <cafuego> w00tz: You are root after you run 'sudo -i'
[05:22] <saotome_> dooglus: basically anything you can select
[05:22] <dooglus> saotome_: it looks like "create view" is very basic.  the syntax is simply "CREATE VIEW `test`.`v` AS select 1 AS `a`,2 AS `b`"
[05:22] <saotome_> dooglus: yep
[05:22] <w00tz> k one sec.
[05:22] <damasta> and you're typing sudo apt-get update right?
[05:22] <liable> GameOver69: actually, take it down for now
[05:22] <sampan> robotgeek  it's a nice slogan, but a shame that it isn't more explanatory ;x
[05:22] <dooglus> saotome_: so that would suggest that the answer to your question is a resounding "no"
[05:22] <DJLILYAZI> _jason, you so right so i added it and i got .....mount: only root can do that
[05:23] <liable> GameOver69: whats your routers ip?
[05:23] <_jason> DJLILYAZI, oops, use sudo
[05:23] <w00tz> ok
[05:23] <w00tz> it worked
[05:23] <w00tz> it downloaded all the files now what?
[05:23] <robotgeek> sampan: heh, can't have everything
[05:23] <GameOver69> liable: ok took it odwn
[05:23] <DJLILYAZI> _jason, LOL we forgot lol
[05:23] <FlannelKing> no, create VIEW can have any select statement, but there are restrictions, does CASE count as a subquery?
[05:23] <damasta> You should be able to do whatever you downloaded.
[05:24] <damasta> What did you download?
[05:24] <sampan> robotgeek  true!  compromises compromises.  ;D  i'll sloganize and leave the technical explanations to those who are actually qualified to give them! everyone wins!
[05:24] <DJLILYAZI> _jason, YAYYYYYYYY IT WORKED
[05:24] <robotgeek> sampan: :)
[05:24] <_jason> DJLILYAZI, great now do: sudo gedit /mnt/linux/etc/group
[05:24] <w00tz> so how do i use wine ?
[05:25] <FlannelKing> saotome_, as far as I can tell, CASE in a view is perfectly legal.
[05:25] <liable> GameOver69: sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[05:25] <saotome_> flannelking: yeah, i finally got it to work
[05:25] <DJLILYAZI> _jason, ok it opened gedit with that file too...
[05:25] <saotome_> flannelking: which brings me to my second question
[05:25] <_jason> DJLILYAZI, do you see a line that starts with 'admin'
[05:25] <damasta> Wine is difficult to use because it needs parameters alot of the time. But you type wine then whatever you're trying to run
[05:25] <saotome_> flannelking: i've heard that case statments can use up a lot of cpu
[05:25] <damasta> wine iexplore.exe for erexample
[05:26] <saotome_> flannelking: in your experience, or from what you've heard, how true is this?
[05:26] <saotome_> flannelking: how much might this affect my performance?
[05:26] <DJLILYAZI> _jason, ya this one....admin:x:106:
[05:26] <GameOver69> liablrz; ok
[05:26] <damasta> w00
[05:26] <_jason> DJLILYAZI, add your username to the end of that
[05:27] <DJLILYAZI> _jason, ok i did that
[05:27] <damasta> w00tz, I never had much success with basic wine. I always use crossover office's app.
[05:27] <damasta> or cedega
[05:27] <Crema10> hey coz you there?
[05:27] <FlannelKing> saotome_, no idea, I dont use mysql, benchmark and find out, that's probably the eisest way.
[05:27] <DJLILYAZI> _jason, so thats it ???
[05:28] <_jason> DJLILYAZI, while we are on the livecd we can check sudoers, do: sudo grep admin /mnt/linux/etc/sudoers
[05:28] <saotome_> flannelking: yeah, you are probably right
[05:28] <jeebes> does anyone else have a problem where when they update the kernel is keeps removing windows from grub,
[05:28] <Crema10> damn, he left  :(
[05:28] <damasta> jeebes, yes I do
[05:28] <saotome_> flannelking: do i need something in particular to check out the contents of the view?
[05:28] <damasta> Annoying
[05:28] <jeebes> ya
[05:28] <koruptpryde> okay, how do i mount an nfs share if the nfs server doesn't allow root but the mount command doesn't allow user level access?
[05:28] <jeebes> for whatever reason it didn't happen last time I updated it
[05:28] <DJLILYAZI> _jason, this is what i got...# Members of the admin group may gain root privileges
[05:28] <DJLILYAZI> %admin  ALL=(ALL) ALL
[05:28] <saotome_> flannelking: i'm trying to select from it, and mysql is saying i can't perform that operation cuz it's not a talbe
[05:28] <saotome_> table*
[05:29] <Crema10> I got an error in Xine: "The source can't be read. Maybe you dont have enough rights for this, or source doesnt contain data (e.g. not disc in drive). (Erro reading from DVD)"  can anybody tell me what that error is?
[05:29] <_jason> DJLILYAZI, ok you should be good to go then.  reboot and try it out
[05:29] <damasta> It did on mine. Still haven't check to see if I properly put the windows option back in
[05:29] <saotome_> mysql documentation on views is very limited, just a couple of paragrafs con the site
[05:29] <DJLILYAZI> _jason do i have to unmount ?
[05:29] <_jason> DJLILYAZI, nah just reboot
[05:29] <DJLILYAZI> _jason, ok brb in 1 min
[05:30] <w00tz> damasta: Ok
[05:30] <FlannelKing> saotome_, what's your SQL command?
[05:30] <jeebes> I've been trying to make a freind of mine think he was on a reality show for years, if anyone wants to help me drive him nuts post comments on http://freewilliam.blogspot.com/
[05:30] <w00tz> so any tips on linux can one can give me ME?
[05:30] <saotome_> select * from v;
[05:31] <robotgeek> jeebes: /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:31] <FlannelKing> saotome_, what did you name your view?
[05:31] <jeebes> sry
[05:32] <saotome_> v
[05:32] <FlannelKing> thats created in the default database, you probably want to use db_name.v
[05:32] <ColonelPanique> select users from ubuntu where topic != "ubuntu" into ubuntu-offtopic;
[05:33] <saotome_> nope
[05:33] <saotome_> not working either
[05:33] <theverant> Can I use debian packages in ubuntu?
[05:33] <theverant> or is that a nono
[05:33] <WhyvasLT> yeah
[05:33] <w00tz> sorry
[05:33] <w00tz> well any one can tell me tips on linux
[05:33] <saotome_> theverant: in my limited experience, yes
[05:33] <damasta> theverant, yes
[05:34] <djlilyazi> _jason, you the mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
[05:34] <damasta> w00tz, like what are you looking for?
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> about any thing in debian - ya should be aboe to find packages in for ubuntu
[05:34] <w00tz> i duno
[05:34] <WhyvasLT> theverant, dpkg -i fart.deb
[05:34] <_jason> djlilyazi, i guess it worked huh
[05:34] <w00tz> but can i paste an error ?
[05:34] <damasta> w00tz, yeah
[05:34] <w00tz>   Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection
[05:34] <w00tz> Failed to fetch http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/wine_0.9.5-winehq-1_i386.deb  Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection
[05:34] <w00tz> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-mi
[05:34] <djlilyazi> _jason, yeah i tried 100000000 right now they are all working wow
[05:34] <_jason> w00tz, if it is large, pastebin
[05:34] <w00tz> WHY >=\
[05:34] <theverant> just trying to find gtkpod to install
[05:34] <w00tz> oops
[05:34] <damasta> w00tz, that's a bad entry into your sources.list
[05:35] <djlilyazi> _jason, without life would of been super hard ...thank u so much my freind
[05:35] <w00tz> why did it refuse connection.
[05:35] <damasta> or it's just down right now
[05:35] <w00tz> sorry?
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> server may be down
[05:35] <_jason> djlilyazi, np
[05:35] <djlilyazi> _jason, i have a quick question
[05:35] <damasta> Did you add the winhq entry though synaptic or manually?
[05:35] <djlilyazi> _jason, i mounted my windows partions but how do i unmount them ?
[05:36] <Madpilot> theverant: gtkpod is in Universe repo - do you have Universe/Multiverse installed?
[05:36] <w00tz> umm Syantic
[05:36] <_jason> djlilyazi, umount /mnt/windows, assuming you mounted it to /mnt/windows
[05:36] <w00tz> then added it src.list
[05:36] <Crema10> hello.. i need help please...
[05:36] <kameron> i installed limewire.. it's sitting in a folder in my home directory. how do i make it so that if i type "limewire" from anywhere, it will run limewire?
[05:36] <Crema10> I got an error in Xine: "The source can't be read. Maybe you dont have enough rights for this, or source doesnt contain data (e.g. not disc in drive). (Erro reading from DVD)"  can anybody tell me what that error is?
[05:36] <theverant> Madpilot - I think I just did
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> kameron,  put a link to it in your PATH somewhere.
[05:36] <damasta> Either the server could be down, or they changed the repository or you entered it incorrectly
[05:36] <djlilyazi> _jason, i used media insted of mnt and windows
[05:36] <w00tz> ok
[05:37] <_jason> djlilyazi, that's fine just change it appropriately
[05:37] <kameron> Dr_Acemaster, just a symbolic link to it, and that should be fine?
[05:37] <Madpilot> theverant: in Synpatic, hit the Reload button, that forces an update of your packages list
[05:37] <w00tz> how do i install the scanners
[05:37] <w00tz> such as umm
[05:37] <w00tz> nmap..
[05:37] <grateful> is it possible to hook a harddrive with windoows XP qand plug it in to ubuntu and see the files?
[05:37] <damasta> sudo apt-get install namp
[05:37] <damasta> nmap
[05:37] <w00tz> cheers big ears!
[05:37] <kameron> Dr_Willis, , just a symbolic link to it, and that should be fine?
[05:37] <theverant> Madpilot - just trying to get the hang of how packaging works in ubuntu :)
[05:37] <damasta> grateful, yes
[05:38] <grateful> damas do u know the mounting command?
[05:38] <w00tz> ummm how can i  change my theme ?
[05:38] <w00tz> to somthing SexY
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> kameron,  yep
[05:38] <sethk> grateful, mount -r -t ntfs /dev/whatever /somewhere
[05:38] <Madpilot> !tell theverant about synaptic
[05:38] <djlilyazi> _jason, sorry i got d/c what did u say the last thing ?
[05:38] <theverant> Thanks Madpilot!
[05:38] <damasta> w00tz, you in gnome or kde
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> w00tz,  try the theme control panel tool?
[05:39] <Madpilot> theverant: np
[05:39] <mehere1> worked thx
[05:39] <_jason> djlilyazi, you just use the mount point.  So if you used /media/windows like you said, you would just do: umount /media/windows
[05:39] <Crema10> where can i find libdvdcss2?
[05:39] <_jason> !info  libdvdcss2
[05:40] <saotome_> anyone knows why ubuntu uses /media instead of the normal /mnt ???
[05:40] <w00tz> i have
[05:40] <w00tz> gnomeeeee
[05:40] <w00tz> or gnomeee
[05:40] <w00tz> which ever..
[05:40] <djlilyazi> _jason, will it go away forever since everytime i restart they come back
[05:40] <saotome_> gnome rulez!!
[05:41] <_jason> djlilyazi, nope that only unmounts it until you reboot.  You'll have to edit /etc/fstab to stop it from mounting everytime you boot-up
[05:41] <liable> what is the meta package for installing gnome?
[05:41] <_jason> liable, ubuntu-desktop
[05:41] <liable> thanks
[05:41] <damasta> w00tz, there is a theme option in the settings menu. Or you can run gnome-control-center
[05:41] <w00tz> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:41] <w00tz> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[05:41] <w00tz> when i try to install namp
[05:41] <damasta> You need to close synaptic
[05:41] <_jason> ubotu, tell Crema10 about libdvdcss
[05:42] <theverant> it's alive! It's aliiiiiiiiive! (my iPod) :p
[05:42] <w00tz> its not open?
[05:43] <damasta> Okay, try to install nmap through synaptic
[05:43] <_jason> w00tz, is the update thing using it?  that usually means *something* is using it
[05:43] <oreth> i'm using ircii.. where is the ircrc file usually located?
[05:43] <jawshoewah> ok is there a way to tell your processor how much of it's resources to devote to a particular task? ie copying files from a cdrom drive while listening to music...multitasking managament
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> in the users home dir
[05:43] <w00tz> no nuffin is usin it
[05:43] <oreth> Dr_Willis: so... ~/home ?
[05:44] <saotome_> anyone knows why ubuntu uses /media instead of the normal /mnt ???
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> oreth,  yep..  ~/username/
[05:44] <oreth> awesp,e
[05:44] <oreth> er.. awesome
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> oreth,  or /home/username :P
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> saotome_,  /mnt is getting not as common on many disrtos these days. :p
[05:44] <_jason> w00tz, well it'll probably be faster to just reboot than track down why the file isn't accessible
[05:44] <saotome_> i thought ~ = /home/username
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> saotome_,  yea thats right :P
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> or just use 'cd' to get home :p
[05:45] <damasta> I prefer /mnt
[05:45] <saotome_> so every distro has it's own standard?
[05:45] <damasta> over /media
[05:45] <djlilyazi> _jason, wow one problem after the other
[05:45] <saotome_> windows will always have that advantage
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> damasta,  so what.. change it then :P
[05:45] <saotome_> even thought we won't admit in public
[05:45] <w00tz> nah
[05:46] <damasta> Dr_Willis, alread have
[05:46] <w00tz> aye
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> i tend to cd /m<tab> anyway :p
[05:46] <w00tz> well
[05:46] <w00tz> i have this running
[05:46] <w00tz> ehh cant paste
[05:46] <w00tz> im downloading wine
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> !wine
[05:46] <w00tz> does that make any diff's ?
[05:47] <damasta> w00tz, what is downloading it?
[05:47] <w00tz> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:47] <w00tz> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[05:47] <damasta> If you have apt-get running, you can't apt-get anything else
[05:47] <w00tz> ahh fuck me dead.
[05:47] <w00tz> ohh k
[05:47] <w00tz> i see
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> Logical eh?
[05:48] <w00tz> anywayz its not running anymore
[05:49] <w00tz> and i still cant install namp
[05:49] <w00tz> *nmap
[05:49] <Sapentis> w00tz, www.insecure.org/nmap
[05:49] <w00tz> wait wait
[05:49] <w00tz> i got this now
[05:49] <w00tz>  ColonelPanique
[05:49] <w00tz> ahh fuck me sidewayz
[05:49] <w00tz> one sec.
[05:49] <w00tz> Reading package lists... Done
[05:49] <w00tz> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:49] <w00tz> E: Couldn't find package namp
[05:49] <robotgeek> w00tz: mind your language, and don't pate here
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> it helps to spell the package name right.
[05:50] <ColonelPanique> keep the language on a professional level w00tz
[05:50] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell w00tz about coc
[05:50] <_jason> w00tz, try nmap not namp
[05:50] <Josh43> I have a general question: Has anyone made a small-scale distributed computing app? like so you can offload things like transcoding and compiling to your own personal network?
[05:50] <w00tz> does that make u cool ?
[05:50] <LazyAce> can somebody help me out with java?
[05:50] <LazyAce> can't get java to work on mozilla -_-
[05:50] <w00tz> ubotu: tell w00tz about coc
[05:50] <AcidReign> ... so I maxed out my HD doing `apt-get dist-upgrade` after changing my sources.list from hoary to breezy..... can anyone suggest how/what to clear out so my system is usable ?
[05:50] <w00tz> i mean
[05:50] <w00tz> ubotu: tell robotgeek about coc
[05:51] <AcidReign> can I empty /var/cache/apt safely??
[05:51] <narles> hey i can't get sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5. to work... any suggestions?
[05:51] <robotgeek> w00tz: welcome to my /ignore list
[05:51] <AcidReign> (apt was in the middle of installing packages, and dumped out due to the lack of space)
[05:51] <w00tz> ubotu: tell robotgeek about cock haha
[05:51] <Josh43> AcidReign, In the middle of installing? or downloading?
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> Josh43,  i was thinking theres a process/tool that lets you sort of do that with all apps.  But  it may not be what you are looking for. (i forget the name.. OpenMosix i think)
[05:51] <AcidReign> Josh43: installing
[05:52] <AcidReign> Josh43: it died on a supplementary python package
[05:52] <_jason> ubotu, tell narles about java
[05:52] <HilBilly> Hello
[05:52] <djlilyazi> _jason, I GOT IT
[05:52] <robotgeek> AcidReign: do you have space on another partition
[05:52] <LazyAce> can somebody help me with the mozilla-firefox plugin lines for java runtime ??
[05:52] <Locke> where can i get an Ubuntu boot disk?
[05:52] <AcidReign> robotgeek: sure, but it's NTFS
[05:52] <djlilyazi> _jason, they are all gone i did umount and it worked wooohoo...
[05:52] <robotgeek> AcidReign: hmm, then nvm
[05:52] <HilBilly> I am trying to help a friend install ubuntu on a laptop with no CD drive.  does ubuntu have a net-install available?
[05:52] <w00tz> ok  i got both working :D
[05:52] <_jason> djlilyazi, great
[05:52] <w00tz> can i delete the tar files now ?
[05:53] <djlilyazi> _jason, i want to make a partion in win like fat32 so i can read/write my files all the time
[05:53] <AcidReign> robotgeek: apt had said that it was going to use like 600M more space after installing
[05:53] <damasta> I'm new to chat, what is ubotu ?
[05:53] <AcidReign> which seems silly
[05:53] <Locke> where can i get an Ubuntu boot disk?
[05:53] <w00tz>   ubotu is a homo
[05:53] <ubotu> w00tz: I don't know, could you explain it?
[05:53] <robotgeek> AcidReign: hmm, dist-upgrade, maybe not
[05:53] <_jason> ubotu, tell damasta about yourself
[05:53] <w00tz> see
[05:53] <AcidReign> damasta: probabpy a "bot" hence u'bot'u
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> djlilyazi,  its possible to get windows to read/write your linux parittions.
[05:53] <djlilyazi> _jason, ok i will stop bugging you..ur such a great person tho..thanks for all ur help
[05:54] <Miyomei> Can I ask a few questions about Ubuntu?
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> djlilyazi,  http://www.fs-driver.org/
[05:54] <w00tz> sure
[05:54] <b1shop> any ideas if MonoDevelop 0.9 will make it as an update?  0.7 is all that is current
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> Miyomei,  you just did. :P care to ask another?
[05:54] <Josh43> AcidReign, SUrprising that your install is not broken, yikes
[05:54] <AcidReign> robotgeek: shouldn't it have replaced existing stuff, then, not taking up twice my previous installation size
[05:54] <damasta> AcidReign, yeah, I get that. Not 100% of the definition of a bot
[05:54] <Miyomei> I just decided to swtich from WinXP to Linux, and heard Ubuntu was a good choice.
[05:54] <Miyomei> Dr_Willis: ;p
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> Miyomei,  yes. ubuntu is very well done.
[05:54] <djlilyazi> Dr_Willis, no i want it the other way since i am 24/7 on llinux and my bro uses windows and he always wants my music and stuff...so i have to share with him ..he uses my computer...
[05:54] <robotgeek> AcidReign: it probably downloads, and then replaces
[05:54] <Miyomei> I'm having problems with installation, though.
[05:54] <AcidReign> Josh43: its luck that things are currently still working (some things....)
[05:55] <kameron> run i type "limewire" from anywhere, it runs limewire, a link in /usr/bin, pointing to where limewire is installed it ~/bin/Limewire. but it complains it can't find a .jar file that's in the folder. when i run it from that folder, it works.
[05:55] <Josh43> Dr_Willis, Hrm.. looks like that might be kind of what I'm looking for, but linux only - I was hoping maybe cross-platform
[05:55] <LazyAce> can anybody help me out with running java on mozilla firefox?! i did most the commands in the guides i have found, but when i get to the last one ''sudo update-alternatives install /usr/bin/java java /usr/local/jre1.5.0_05/bin/java 1'' it says -install isn't a known variable
[05:55] <cyphase> how can you have a vnc server which allows you to log on to any one of multiple currently running X sessions, not just the current one?
[05:55] <Miyomei> It seems that the install will get to 6% setup, and slows down terribly, taking an hour to process single packages.
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> Josh43,  i never actually used it. :P ive just read a few articals on it..  sort of a nifty tool.
[05:56] <Locke> does anyone know how to install Ubuntu from a computer that won't boot from the CD-Rom drive?
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> Miyomei,  that sounds liek it could be a bad/dirty cd.. try the 'alt-ctrl-f1' through f8 keys and see if any errror messages or other info is showing up.
[05:56] <Josh43> Dr_Willis, I may have to add another thing to my wish list of apps.. I think it's about time you could use your home network as one unit for cpu intensive stuff
[05:56] <mustard5> Locke, you got a floppy drive?
[05:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Locke about smartboot
[05:56] <robotgeek> Locke: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:56] <Miyomei> Hrm. Is it a bad idea to burn the disc at 24x?
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> Josh43,  with 'distcc' you can sort of do that now :) for compilng at least
[05:56] <bshumate> LazyAce: it's --install instead of -install
[05:56] <robotgeek> oops,
[05:56] <LazyAce> thanks bshumate
[05:56] <nalioth> Miyomei: yes. burn ubuntu isos at the slowest possible speed
[05:56] <AcidReign> Miyomei: only if the disk is rated for less than 24x
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> Josh43,  my home network is 1 BIG machine and lots of old junk. lol.
[05:56] <kameron> LazyAce, there's no '-' in -install, just install
[05:57] <Miyomei> I see, then. I'll go try another burn now.
[05:57] <robotgeek> LazyAc: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[05:57] <djlilyazi> Dr_Willis, how do i delete a file that i made but wont delete only from root
[05:57] <mustard5> Locke, also have you tried changing the BIOS settings?
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> djlilyazi,  that sort of made no sence. :P
[05:57] <Miyomei> Also, another question: Will Linux be able to read my NTFS-formatted HDD?
[05:57] <djlilyazi> Dr_Willis, it told me only root can delete that
[05:57] <b1shop> any ideas how the remove the dvd from the package list?
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> djlilyazi,  try 'sudo rm filetodelete'
[05:57] <AcidReign> Miyomei: yes, but Read Only
[05:57] <nalioth> Miyomei: read yes, write no
[05:58] <djlilyazi> Dr_Willis, ok lets see
[05:58] <psusi> Miyomei, read yes... write, no
[05:58] <Miyomei> Ah. Can I convert the files in some way?
[05:58] <AcidReign> Miyomei: and you'll have to make sure the right kernel module is installed
[05:58] <b1shop> if i install a package through synaptic, i want it to stop asking for the dvd
[05:58] <nalioth> Miyomei: if you purchase Partition Magic
[05:58] <AcidReign> Miyomei: you can copy them to the Linux partition
[05:58] <theverant> has anyone here used removable SATA cages w/ Unbuntu?
[05:58] <AcidReign> Miyomei: or you can use a commerical tool too change the FS to FAT32
[05:58] <psusi> Miyomei, yes... you can copy them from the ntfs partition to your linux partition
[05:58] <AcidReign> actually there maybe a non-commercial tool for it
[05:58] <djlilyazi> Dr_Willis, nope it says its a directory
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> Miyomei,  it may be wrorth while to get a 2nd hd just for linux. :) make it a LOT easier.
[05:58] <AcidReign> but I cant think of one
[05:58] <Locke> mustard5: yes, i have
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> djlilyazi,  then use the rmdir command :P
[05:59] <b1shop> acidrainy: gpartd?
[05:59] <Locke> mustard5: and i do have a floppy drive
[05:59] <nalioth> AcidReign: to my knowledge, there is none
[05:59] <psusi> partition magic is for the birds.. seen it trash too many hard drives, and why pay for something that is free in ubuntu?  ( gparted )
[05:59] <Miyomei> Hrm. I'm going to run into problems, then. I have a 40GB drive that I'm going to use for Linux, and two more drives full of stuff (60GB and 40GB) that I want to access.
[05:59] <LazyAce> bshumate: the command its wanting me to type is sudo update-alternatives install /usr/bin/java java /usr/local/jre1.5.0_05/bin/java 1
[05:59] <nalioth> Locke: read your private msg from ubotu. he has a way for you
[05:59] <jawshoewah> ok is there a way to tell your processor how much of it's resources to devote to a particular task? ie copying files from a cdrom drive while listening to music...multitasking managament
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> I tend to use that "system rescue" live cd - it has parted   on it also.
[05:59] <Josh43> Dr_Willis, Distcc looks promising.. needs to be expanded tho.. My home network used to be like yours, but now I have like 4 <1Ghz machines, and one out of commission big machine.. I tell you, it makes you appreciate cpu time quickly
[05:59] <LazyAce> bshumate: but still wont load java based sites
[05:59] <mustard5> Locke, k..well there is a way of doing it via floppy if you can boot from floppy...I don't recall where the instructions are atm though
[05:59] <mustard5> Locke, I'm trying to find them..but I don't like my chances :)
[06:00] <robotgeek> LazyAce: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[06:00] <AcidReign> Miyomei: I'm with Dr_Willis there, BUT make sure you make the Linux HD your Primary Master, and move the Windows drive to Secondary, otherwise the boot loader replaces ntloader, then your windows disk will never boot on its own again.
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> Josh43,  of course - in ubuntu  - i rarely compile stuff.. all my little box's are file servers
[06:00] <spencerk> is there no o/s speech dictation applications?
[06:00] <Josh43> jawshoewah, The process manager; you can set the music player to high priority :)
[06:00] <w00tz> ok
[06:00] <Kirce> so what is thuis cahnnel anyhow lol
[06:00] <spencerk> does anyone know of any? im getting carpal tunner
[06:00] <w00tz> now how do i complie a file with gCC ?
[06:00] <theverant> is there a way to tell the system a time to turn off?
[06:00] <bshumate> LazyAce: when you type: about:plugins  in the FF address bar, do you see mention of Java Plug-in at all?
[06:00] <Miyomei> Ah, I see. Does the linux boot loader allow me to boot into Windows?
[06:00] <theverant> it's updating now and I wanna go to beddddzzzzz
[06:00] <jawshoewah> sweet thanks josh
[06:01] <kameron> theverant, man shutdown
[06:01] <AcidReign> Miyomei: yes
[06:01] <Josh43> Dr_Willis, Yeah, same here, which is why distcc is not quite right.. I transcode alot of video ;)
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> Josh43,  actually i THINK that dvd:rip stuff can do that...
[06:01] <Miyomei> Great. Last question for a bit: Is Ubuntu 5.10 the one I should use?
[06:01] <LazyAce> bshumate, ?
[06:01] <AcidReign> Miyomei: the installer will find your windows drive and add it as a boot option
[06:01] <jawshoewah> so my city doesnt have a linux users group, im super noob but devoted, whats the best way to start one?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> Josh43,  or i seemt orecall some mention of a similer feature in dvd::rip docs
[06:01] <AcidReign> Miyomei: yes, always used the newest release
[06:01] <nalioth> Miyomei: of course it is. it is the current version
[06:01] <Locke> nalioth: it won't let me download smartboot
[06:01] <Miyomei> Alright.
[06:01] <AcidReign> (unless there is a compelling reason to do otherwise)
[06:01] <mustard5> oops, didnt see your message to Locke, nalioth :)
[06:02] <nalioth> Locke: you dont download, you visit it
[06:02] <bshumate> LazyAce: in FireFox, type : about:plugins in the address bar, and press enter.  Does it mention Java Plug-in in there?
[06:02] <Josh43> Dr_Willis, It's for output to psp, ufortunately - dvd::rip wont do it; that's cool tho, I will have to look that uip for later
[06:02] <Locke> nalioth: ...?
[06:02] <LazyAce> bshumate: nope, no plugins of java
[06:02] <nalioth> Locke: it's a URL, iirc
[06:02] <w00tz> ok
[06:02] <w00tz> now how do i complie a file with gCC ?
[06:02] <AcidReign> anyway... is it safe to delete everything under /var/cache/apt/archives?
[06:02] <nalioth> Locke: unless someone has changed the factoid
[06:02] <Miyomei> Will I be able to read protected Windows folders, like user-specific document folders that are normally locked to everyone but that user?
[06:02] <LazyAce> bshumate: got most of the others, just not java
[06:02] <AcidReign> I'm rather new to apt-get
[06:02] <hikenboot> i have installed gcc-4.0, make, build-essentials and made a simlink ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 /usr/bin/gcc and still when i type gcc -v i get command not found and when compiling it tells me access is denied.../usr/bin/gcc-4.0/ has rwx for owner group world ...what am i missing
[06:02] <nalioth> AcidReign: if you do it properly, it's ok
[06:02] <Locke> nalioth: i did that, the wiki, i clicked on the download it here thing and it say cannot contact server
[06:02] <AcidReign> (I usually compile)
[06:02] <Miyomei> I forgot to back up my Firefox bookmarks, so they're stuck in my personal folder.
[06:02] <bshumate> LazyAce: did you try closing, and restarting Firefox?  If it was running when you did all the commands to install, you'll likely have to restart iy
[06:02] <nalioth> Locke: hang on a minute
[06:03] <AcidReign> nalioth: "do it properly" ?
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> Josh43,  Hmm.. i think i did that once with dvd-rip.. actually I think i just ripped the videos and then used pspvideo9 to convert :P lol
[06:03] <bshumate> it, rather
[06:03] <LazyAce> bshumate: yes
[06:03] <bob832> hi there...how do i go about setting up a web server (apache2) so that it requires a password to access certain pages?  (i.e. photos of family)
[06:03] <w00tz> ok
[06:03] <w00tz> now how do i complie a file with gCC ?
[06:03] <Josh43> Dr_Willis, Pretty much the same thing I am doing :P (You have a psp? Have you seen the pmp-mod?
[06:03] <Alltaken_> should synaptic package manager have gcc 3.4 on it (it is nowhere to be seen on mine)
[06:03] <siimo> hi i have a motherboard with SiS760GX onboard video :( how do i get it higher than 1024x768? is it not possible
[06:03] <z|bandito> is there a corrupt .udeb on amd64 live cd iso?
[06:03] <AcidReign> w00tz: usually 'you' don't, you use make
[06:04] <z|bandito> i have done md5 checks on the download and the burn and compared to posted md5, and it's good
[06:04] <nalioth> AcidReign: in a terminal type "man apt-get"
[06:04] <z|bandito> but it won't boot
[06:04] <nalioth> Locke: do you have a breezy install cd ?
[06:04] <hikenboot> anyone...i am in a real bind here
[06:04] <bshumate> LazyAce: which guide are you using for this?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> Josh43,  not herad of that one.
[06:04] <AcidReign> w00tz: if you downloaded a source package it comes with configure script, run `./configure`, then `make`, then `make install`
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> Josh43,  psp is getting me mad. all the new games are like $50!
[06:04] <AcidReign> nalioth: that's useless
[06:04] <w00tz> install ?
[06:04] <Locke> nalioth: i'm downloading... ummm... 5.10 atm, whichever that one is, i'll have it in about 20 min
[06:04] <w00tz> i already installed GCC
[06:05] <nalioth> AcidReign: advise "checkinstall" instead of 'make install' please
[06:05] <w00tz> gcc file.c "output" ?
[06:05] <Josh43> Dr_Willis, It gives you full res video.. better than umd quality if you do it right.. you need a 1.5 firmware psp tho
[06:05] <nalioth> Locke: then you'll have the smartbootmanager on it
[06:05] <jawshoewah> ok so how do i give priority to the process that copies the files?
[06:05] <Locke> naloith: alright, thx
[06:05] <Josh43> Dr_Willis, And most of the new games are not that great; yeah, I know
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> Josh43,  well thats out of the question then. :P i aint about to mess with downgrading
[06:05] <AcidReign> nalioth: 1) my HD is completely full, so man errors, 2) that wont tell me if its safe to rm -f /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb
[06:05] <Kr0ntab> hikenboot: sudo apt-get install gcc
[06:05] <Locke> btw, what is Ubuntu Server 5.10?
[06:05] <Kr0ntab> perhaps?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> Josh43,  most of my video is stuff ive captuted from the tv anyway
[06:05] <theverant> 'nite all... thanks for all the fish.. I mean... help... hopefully I can give somethign back soon!
[06:05] <Kr0ntab> :-)
[06:06] <Miyomei> Alright, I'm gonna' reburn the ISO. Thanks for all of the fast help, guys. I'll probably be back soon. ;p
[06:06] <sudharsh> Locke: Ubuntu sevrer doesnt hav a gdm
[06:06] <LazyAce> bshumate: sorry, had ot find it ''http://chads.homelinux.org/blog/?m=20051225''
[06:06] <nalioth> AcidReign: look to deleting things in your /tmp and your browser and other personal caches first
[06:06] <hikenboot> Kr0ntab: gcc is already the newest version.
[06:06] <AcidReign> nalioth: /tmp is 18K
[06:06] <jawshoewah> ok so how do i give priority to the process that copies the files?
[06:07] <Josh43> Dr_Willis, Most of the stuff I've been doing is tv rips and fansubbed anime; 20-30min is about the sweet spot for me in terms of amoutn of time per video
[06:07] <hikenboot> Kr0ntab: thats what it says
[06:07] <AcidReign> nalioth: and I KNOW this is the problem apt JUST ate over 600MB
[06:07] <narles> does anyone use ourtunes... it seems to run shitty when i use java -jar
[06:07] <nalioth> AcidReign: what is in ~/.stuff  ?
[06:07] <Kr0ntab> hikenboot: type "which gcc"
[06:07] <LazyAce> bshumate: it was the most recent i could find for the new java 1.5, plus it was the top of my search engine -_-
[06:07] <AcidReign> and that directory is about 800M currently
[06:07] <nalioth> narles: language please
[06:07] <AcidReign> du -sh ~/.stuff
[06:07] <hikenboot> comes back with nothing
[06:07] <jawshoewah> any tv config guys on tonight?
[06:07] <AcidReign> oops
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Josh43,  ive been recording tv shows with my HDVR copy them to dvd.. rip to psp :P cooking shows. lol
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Josh43,  its almost easier to just use a portable dvd player for me.
[06:07] <AcidReign> nalioth: No such file or directory
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> actually it is easier.  :)
[06:08] <nalioth> AcidReign: please use your head. ~/.EXAMPLE_FOLDER
[06:08] <z|bandito> is there a corrupt .udeb on amd64 live cd iso?  or a known issue that it won't boot on some mobo or chipset or something?
[06:08] <duckdown> Can someone tell me if there is a package for a MUD client?  Apparently KMUD and KMUDDY aren't available, or are my sources misconfigured still? :-(
[06:08] <Josh43> Dr_Willis, Yeah, after that point, lol.. you could almost justify using that video recorder that burns to ms duo
[06:08] <jawshoewah> tvtime cant open the capture device but lsmod sees it
[06:08] <sudharsh> z|bandito: r u havin an ati?
[06:08] <nalioth> duckdown: your sources may still be misconfigured
[06:08] <w00tz> now how do i complie a file with gCC ?
[06:08] <AcidReign> nalioth: well I've actually seen things use such names. so its not unreasonable to assume you were being literal
[06:08] <Kr0ntab> then gcc is missing....
[06:08] <duckdown> nalioth: I apparently activated UNIVERSE through Synaptic
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> Josh43,  been looking at the Nokia770 - but not sure how well it does video.. heh
[06:08] <HoboTurtle> xcuse me
[06:09] <Hobz> I also have a gcc problem
[06:09] <duckdown> nalioth: Do you have any kmud* packages?
[06:09] <hikenboot> Kr0ntab: it comes back with nothing
[06:09] <nalioth> duckdown: enable multiverse, too
[06:09] <AcidReign> nalioth: and besides my entire home directory is only a few MB
[06:09] <nalioth> duckdown: i do not.
[06:09] <HoboTurtle> can anyone help me how to burn an iso to CD?
[06:09] <Kr0ntab> hikenboot: the gcc is missing....
[06:09] <sudharsh> w00tz: gcc <filename? -o <execname>
[06:09] <w00tz> cheers
[06:09] <nalioth> AcidReign: sudo apt-get clean
[06:09] <duckdown> I had trouble with multiverse.. My Synaptic didn't have one I could just check off
[06:09] <hikenboot> Kr0ntab: there is a simlink to /usr/bin/gcc /usr/bin/gcc-4.0
[06:09] <duckdown> I don't know the source for it
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> HoboTurtle,  under windows or linux?
[06:09] <Josh43> Dr_Willis, mmm, the internet tablet, that thing is cool; not so hot on video tho
[06:09] <Locke> sudharsh: whats a gdm?
[06:09] <HoboTurtle> Dr_Willis, under ubuntu
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> Josh43,  yea.. a fancy toy. :P
[06:09] <Kr0ntab> hikenboot: "dpkg -l gcc"
[06:10] <errr_> does anyone know what package the "matto" fonts are a part of?
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> HoboTurtle,  i tend to cheat and use 'k3b'
[06:10] <nalioth> ubotu: tell duckdown about repos
[06:10] <jawshoewah> tvtime cant open the capture device but lsmod sees it
[06:10] <nalioth> duckdown: ubotu has blessed you with knowledge
[06:10] <garry> gdm command to start gnome.
[06:10] <hikenboot> ii  gcc                      4.0.1-3                  The GNU C compiler
[06:10] <AcidReign> nalioth: Thank You, that cleared over 530MB.
[06:10] <duckdown> nalioth:  im pretty sure ive seen that, but ill look again
[06:10] <HoboTurtle> Dr_Willis, is the the easiest...noob-friendly choice?
[06:10] <duckdown> thanks
[06:10] <sudharsh> Locke: Gnome display manager
[06:10] <hikenboot> /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 -v comes back with the version
[06:10] <z|bandito> sudharsh no it's an nvidia 6600 pcie
[06:10] <sudharsh> kubuntu use kdm
[06:10] <nalioth> AcidReign: just wiping things that don't belong to you (the user) causes trouble.
[06:10] <StudyUrNme> hikenboot, is /usr/bin still in your $PATH ?
[06:10] <Natasha> how old is everyone here, u all seem much older than i am
[06:10] <Josh43> Dr_Willis, howabout the new polaroid 80gb portable video player ;)
[06:10] <hikenboot> I think i got it
[06:11] <jawshoewah> any tv config guys on tonight?
[06:11] <z|bandito> on an asus a8n-sli delux
[06:11] <AcidReign> nalioth: so does having 0 free space
[06:11] <garry> I am too old.
[06:11] <sudharsh> z|bandito: did u get any errors
[06:11] <hikenboot> its a directory not a file I must have made an error
[06:11] <dooglus> hikenboot: you're missing the symbolic link from /usr/bin/gcc to gcc-4.0?
[06:11] <greg> need a lil help i'm tring to modify the server.list and it won't let me change it from read only but i know i'm signed in as the admin...any ideas
[06:11] <Kr0ntab> hikenboot: sudo rm /usr/bin/gcc; sudo ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 /usr/bin/gcc
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> Josh43,  heh - i just watch stuff a little at work. and the boss's are getting mad.. easier for me to just go buy a book or 3 now a days
[06:12] <Natasha> i think im in the wrong place, this is like some computer club
[06:12] <AcidReign> nalioth: and it seems that did exactly what I wanted to do manually...
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> Josh43,  no battery needed!
[06:12] <Madpilot> HoboTurtle: find your ISO in the file manager - right click on it, select "Burn To Disc" - done
[06:12] <sudharsh> hikenboot: see whether typing 'gc' and a <tab> fills up the command for ya
[06:12] <nalioth> AcidReign: it did more than you think
[06:12] <w00tz> ahh dammit man
[06:12] <w00tz> kaiten.c:60:19: error: errno.h: No such file or directory
[06:12] <w00tz> kaiten.c:61:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory
[06:12] <w00tz> kaiten.c:62:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory
[06:12] <w00tz> why?
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:12] <sudharsh> hey u hjav to install the stdc++
[06:12] <hikenboot> gcc         gcc-3.3     gcc-3.4     gcc-4.0     gccbug      gccbug-3.3  gccbug-3.4  gccbug-4.0
[06:12] <garry> greg from command line sudo gedit filename
[06:12] <AcidReign> nalioth: I know that
[06:12] <HoboTurtle> Madpilot, thanks alot, Dr_Willis too, u are so smart
[06:12] <nalioth> Ladies and Gentlemen: there is a /topic for the channel
[06:12] <dooglus> hikenboot: what happens if you just run "gcc" on its own?
[06:13] <benplaut> can someone write a very simple script for me?
[06:13] <Madpilot> nalioth: yeah, but it only exists so people can complain about everyone ignoring it! :P
[06:13] <benplaut>  to open a dialog box that says (whatever... for me to edit), with the OK button just closing to window?
[06:13] <hikenboot> command not found
[06:13] <HoboTurtle> Madpilot, but wouldnt it write it as a data disc?
[06:13] <dooglus> hikenboot: "ls -l /usr/bin/gcc".  what about that?
[06:13] <jb_> ubuntu sucks, i cant even get my WMP54gs pci card installed
[06:13] <Kr0ntab> hikenboot: echo $PATH
[06:13] <Josh43> Dr_Willis, no battery needed /yet/ ;)
[06:14] <nalioth> benplaut: look up "zenity" on google
[06:14] <hikenboot>  sudo rm /usr/bin/gcc
[06:14] <hikenboot> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> Josh43,  yet another big failure - the electronic-book....
[06:14] <Madpilot> HoboTurtle: Nautilus is smart enough to write ISOs in the right way
[06:14] <jb_> hell it wont even find it
[06:14] <benplaut> nalioth: thanks
[06:14] <dooglus> Kr0ntab: if he doesn't have /usr/bin in $PATH then he's gonna have bigger problems than gcc not working...
[06:14] <Kr0ntab> course....
[06:14] <dooglus> hikenboot: "ls -l /usr/bin/gcc".  what about that?
[06:14] <sudharsh> jb_: does lsmod, lspci work
[06:14] <hikenboot> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 16 2006-01-09 23:55 gcc-4.0 -> /usr/bin/gcc-4.0
[06:14] <jb_> yeah
[06:14] <HoboTurtle> Madpilot, i guess.. i forgot this is not windows
[06:15] <sudharsh> jb_: is getting detected properly
[06:15] <dooglus> hikenboot: was that addressed to me?
[06:15] <jb_> it shows it as a broadcom network controller but it is unknown
[06:15] <HoboTurtle> Madpilot, nautilus? and where is this file manager
[06:15] <z|bandito> sudharsh yes it says a file doesn't match md5 and might be corrupt...
[06:15] <Madpilot> HoboTurtle: no, it's usually smarter than Windows :P
[06:15] <nalioth> jb_: use ndiswrapper
[06:15] <hikenboot> douglus: yes sorry
[06:15] <z|bandito> an amd64 ide .udeb, let me get the full name
[06:15] <hikenboot> dooglus: yes sorry
[06:15] <sudharsh> z|bandito: try reinstalling the whole systesm then>
[06:15] <dooglus> hikenboot: that can't possibly be the output of the command I asked you to run
[06:15] <z|bandito> it's on the live cd
[06:15] <jb_> i have it set up, but it only says that the drive is installed
[06:15] <_charwood> Please help: I don't have a /dev/dvd or a /dev/hdc or anything of the sort though the device does exist.  Why is this?
[06:15] <HoboTurtle> Madpilot, im giving up on linux for now, its too hard for me
[06:16] <jb_> not the card
[06:16] <_charwood> (I'm using dapper flight 2)
[06:16] <z|bandito> i was trying to see if it would boot at all before installing
[06:16] <dooglus> hikenboot: could you try again, but copy/paste this time?
[06:16] <Kr0ntab> hikenboot: "ls -l /usr/bin/gcc*"    we want to see everything that has gcc in yer path...
[06:16] <sudharsh> oh...so the live cd wont boot into the desktop in the first place?
[06:16] <Hobz> packages.debian.org is down, is there another place where I can find .deb packages?
[06:16] <Kr0ntab> sorry... you ahve two people heling at same time.... I'll hang back for a sec
[06:16] <hikenboot> dooglus: ls -l /usr/bin/gcc
[06:16] <hikenboot> total 0
[06:16] <hikenboot> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 16 2006-01-09 23:55 gcc-4.0 -> /usr/bin/gcc-4.0
[06:16] <z|bandito> but i verified the md5 of the burnt iso with the posted md5
[06:16] <sudharsh> packages.ubuntu.com
[06:16] <z|bandito> yeah, it's during the boot process and then hangs
[06:17] <dooglus> hikenboot: so /usr/bin/gcc is a directory?
[06:17] <sudharsh> k now do u have some uncommaon hardware
[06:17] <sudharsh> did u try the cd in someone else's oc
[06:17] <sudharsh> *pc
[06:17] <hikenboot> its a simlink to /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 unless i have done it wrong
[06:17] <jb_> i mean it shows that it is there as a broadcom network controller, but it is uknown, and when i use ndiswrapper it says the driver is present but says noting about the card
[06:18] <z|bandito> no, dunno anyone with amd64... uncommon hardware.. hmm, pcie and sata ..
[06:18] <dooglus> hikenboot: you need to do this:  "sudo bash -c '/bin/rm -r /usr/bin/gcc; ln -s gcc-4.0 /usr/bin/gcc'"
[06:18] <manils> oh snap i had that problem
[06:18] <HoboTurtle> where is the file manager...
[06:18] <Plazma> has anyone had any luck getting an ipod to work with firewire in ubuntu?
[06:18] <manils> what kinda machine is this?
[06:18] <dooglus> hikenboot: to see that it's really a directory, do this: "ls -ld /usr/bin/gcc"
[06:18] <z|bandito> i'll reboot and check the name of the corrupt .udeb
[06:18] <manils> i had a broadcom 1370 mini wlan
[06:18] <_charwood> Sorry, does anyone know why udev might not detect my second ide drive (my DVD drive?)
[06:18] <duckdown> I am trying to use something that requires Qt >=3.1.0 .. What can I do?
[06:18] <hikenboot> thanks  drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2006-01-09 23:55 /usr/bin/gcc
[06:18] <jb_> its an amd 64 but its on the i386
[06:18] <nalioth> HoboTurtle: applications > accesories > file mangler
[06:18] <duckdown> Should I compile frmo source?
[06:19] <dooglus> hikenboot: see the initial 'd'?  that means it's a directory
[06:19] <hikenboot> im not sure how that happend
[06:19] <nalioth> duckdown: no. search synaptic for 'libqt3'
[06:19] <sudharsh> duckdown: what r un tryin to install
[06:19] <z|bandito> will the i386 version boot on amd64?
[06:19] <Alltaken_> why is gcc3.4 not available to download via apt-get any longer?
[06:19] <dooglus> hikenboot: I've got my suspicions :)
[06:19] <HoboTurtle> u mean FILEBROWSER?
[06:19] <jb_> yeah
[06:19] <duckdown> nalioth: I've installed the libqt3 stuff
[06:19] <sudharsh> it will mate
[06:19] <duckdown> sudharsh: a MUD client for KDE
[06:19] <sig> I currently back my system up, I just cp'd the old .evolution file back to /home/me/.evolution and all went well. I opened evolution and when I click on inbox or anything else it says permission denied. How would I chown this to the current user now?
[06:19] <z|bandito> hmm, that wouldn't boot either
[06:19] <regeya_> I just want to know how someone accidentally ends up in this here computer club
[06:19] <duckdown> sudharsh: there arent any in my synaptic :S
[06:19] <dooglus> hikenboot: I reckon it was a combination of you, sudo and mkdir :)
[06:20] <crimsun> duckdown: install libqt3-mt-dev and qt3-dev-tools
[06:20] <hikenboot> well thanks...I will fix it
[06:20] <sudharsh> duckdown: synatpic might have handled the dependencies for u
[06:20] <nalioth> duckdown: obviously you've missed something
[06:20] <hikenboot> it must have been a typo
[06:20] <duckdown> crimsun: Hang on, let me try that, thanks
[06:20] <duckdown> nalioth: Let me check again
[06:20] <ejofee> in kde / kcontrol (desktop settings) / background: when i press the "get new wallpapers" (from the internet), a window pops up on which is written "empty page" (so it won't download any wallpaper). can anybody please help me?
[06:20] <crimsun> Alltaken_: the package name is 'gcc-3.4', and it's in main.
[06:20] <michael__> I'm in here again. Hopefully somebody can help me this time. But to fight the spite, I'm going to ask before hand - will anybody help me?
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> ejofee,  just fire up a browser and go look for wallpaper web sites :P
[06:20] <dooglus> !ask
[06:20] <sudharsh> michael__ whats ur prob
[06:20] <jb_> so does anyone know whats going on with my wifi card or should i either switch back to windows or buy a bridge
[06:20] <michael__> http://pastebin.com/498866
[06:21] <dooglus> um - just ask michael
[06:21] <ejofee> Dr_Willis: yes, but it used to work
[06:21] <ejofee> Dr_Willis: it all happened overnight
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> could be their server is down or they are changeing somthing
[06:21] <garry> ejofee, perhaps the server handling the wallpaper is down at the moment
[06:21] <duckdown> crimsun: libqt3-mt-dev is already the newest version and qt3-dev-tools is already the newest version. according to apt-get
[06:21] <michael__> jb, i needed to use dniswrapper with the driver from the windows install cd
[06:21] <hikenboot> thanks have a great evening!
[06:22] <garry> hehe, Dr_Willis wins the race. :)
[06:22] <AcidReign> so, is XMMS broken for anyone else? mine doesn't play a damn thing...
[06:22] <damasta> Acid
[06:22] <AcidReign> mp3 and ogg make it freeze
[06:22] <duckdown> nalioth: apparently i have libqt3-mt-dev and qt3-dev-tools
[06:22] <crimsun> duckdown: then you may need 'qt3-dev-tools-compat'
[06:22] <Crema10> can i use amarok even if its a kde app?
[06:22] <z|bandito> on the amd64 version it fails the cdrom integrity test...  /pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/ipv6-modules-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic-di_2.6.12-9.23_amd64.udeb
[06:22] <sudharsh> change the sound server
[06:22] <Crema10> i'm using gnome
[06:22] <duckdown> crimsun: ok thanks hang on
[06:22] <jb_> ive already done that and when i get the drivers installed with it and do "ndiswrapper -l" it shows that my driver is present but not hte hardware
[06:22] <z|bandito> but last time it was a different file that failed md5 check
[06:22] <sudharsh> maybe u didnt burn it right
[06:22] <oorah22> anyone know why i can't seem to install codecs using synaptic?
[06:22] <Alltaken_> crimsun, yes it states that gcc-3.4 has no available location to download, and it is not listed in any of my synaptic lists
[06:22] <ejofee> garry, Dr_Willis: oh, didn't know it would behave like this on server unavailability. are you sure? (i thought it would give me a more proper message, like "server unaccessible".)
[06:23] <z|bandito> when i make an iso and run md5 on the iso it's the same as the download and of the posted md5!  :(
[06:23] <sudharsh> oorah22 u need 2 enable multiverse and universe repos first
[06:23] <michael__> jb_, did you do $modprobe ndiswrapper
[06:23] <jb_> yeah
[06:23] <oorah22> sudharsh, is there a link on how to do that?
[06:23] <Alltaken_> it may be because of the country i am in, since all my downloads are trying to go through the NZ servers, does anyone know a location i could get gcc-3.4 from and have it automatically installed?
[06:23] <garry> ejofee No, I'm not sure, but if hte server is dodgey, who knows what ye get.
[06:23] <crimsun> Alltaken_: please reenable the main repository
[06:23] <oorah22> sudharsh, googling it...
[06:23] <sudharsh> enableing the repos os easy mate
[06:23] <ejofee> garry: i see. thanks.
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> ejofee,  'error 404' :P
[06:24] <bimberi> ubotu tell oorah22 about w32codecs
[06:24] <duckdown> crimsun: Crap..checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!   during ./configure still :-(
[06:24] <sudharsh> oorah22 open synaptic
[06:24] <jb_> when i do an lspci i get this
[06:24] <jb_> 0000:00:0c.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation: Unknown device 4318 (rev 02)
[06:24] <garry> ejofee welcome, IN fact, I think I'll try and see if more wallpapers are avail. are ye using gnome?
[06:24] <crimsun> duckdown: oh, you're not providing the correct Qt path
[06:24] <jb_> its like its there but its not reconized
[06:24] <LazyAce> i got java installed, can somebody private message me the commands that will associate java with mozilla firefox? this is for a i386 system.
[06:24] <ejofee> garry: no, it is all happening in kde
[06:24] <duckdown> hmm?
[06:24] <michael__> jb, sorry, not experienced nuf to help you then - i'm in here in hopes of getting helped too - did you try ubuntu wiki
[06:25] <Alltaken_> crimsun,  how do i reenable the main repository? i am using the default respository that it has used since install
[06:25] <garry> ok, I can switch over to kde. just a sec. I'll be back and let ye know, if you still around.
[06:25] <crimsun> duckdown: you need to pass "--with-qt-dir=/usr/share/qt3" to ./configure
[06:25] <LazyAce> i got java installed, can somebody private message me the commands that will associate java with mozilla firefox? this is for a i386 system.
[06:25] <jb_> yeah man ive tried alot but i cant find anyone with the same problem so i think im juust gonna buy a network brindge
[06:25] <crimsun> !tell Alltaken_ about repos
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> 'get new wallpaper' works for my kde desktp
[06:25] <jb_> that will work but there 89 bucks
[06:25] <regeya_> I tried bmpx earlier.  what a weird direction bmp has taken
[06:25] <sudharsh> LazyAce what did about:plugins tell u for the plugins
[06:26] <starscalling> hiiiiiii ;) i was wondering how i can get openbox to automagically execute things like fbpanel ??
[06:26] <regeya_> Dr_Willis,
[06:26] <LazyAce> nothing about java
[06:26] <duckdown> crimsun: cool, trying now
[06:26] <michael__> so, do i get help in here??
[06:26] <crimsun> duckdown: that's a FAQ, btw
[06:26] <sudharsh> LazyAce u missed the symbolic link
[06:26] <regeya_> Dr_Willis, are you a former gentoo user?   forgive me if I've asked before
[06:26] <LazyAce> sudharsh: nothing about java, just some acrobat ready, flash, and a fwe other things
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> regeya_, yep
[06:26] <duckdown> crimsun: I read the README and INSTALL :(
[06:26] <sudharsh> LazyAce go to the java installation
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> regeya_,  aint messed with gentoo in a long time
[06:26] <sudharsh> through nautilus a s root
[06:27] <duckdown> sweet man it worked, I'll write that down.. thanks crimsun sir
[06:27] <cobelloy> hello there - can anyone help me with configuring ethernet?
[06:27] <oorah22> Thanks everyone! i'm new to ubuntu... switched over from gentoo
[06:27] <jeramy> cobelloy, possibly... :)
[06:27] <oorah22> thanks for being so helpful
[06:27] <regeya_> Dr_Willis, oh come now, how long could it have been?
[06:27] <palomer> hello
[06:27] <palomer> whon's the next ubuntu coming out?
[06:27] <sudharsh> April
[06:27] <sudharsh> i thinl
[06:28] <regeya_> and apologies to any ops; I promise to stop asking now.
[06:28] <bimberi> oorah22: np and welcome :)
[06:28] <michael__> feels ignored.*
[06:28] <jeramy> Yeah, I think it's April
[06:28] <cobelloy> I have some outputs from lsmod and stuff here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6872
[06:28] <timfrost> michael__, ask your question
[06:28] <nalioth> duckdown: what is your program calling for in the way of libqt3 ?
[06:28] <michael__> I DID, It's at http://pastebin.com/498866
[06:28] <cobelloy> nalioth - you came here?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> regeya_,  year+ at least?
[06:29] <cobelloy> still trying to get eth going
[06:29] <sudharsh> micheal__ did u use gcc4
[06:29] <nalioth> cobelloy: i'm always here  :) (i'm in many channels
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> regeya_,  i rember when emerge -U was 'standard' i think lol..  and stage1/2 was still supported.
[06:29] <palomer> is it going to be 6.0?
[06:30] <michael__> idk, it's a proggy sum1 else made
[06:30] <cobelloy> yes - I keep running away and then I get left behind in the threads...
[06:30] <michael__> shud i install it?
[06:30] <cobelloy> I had to go an build a shelf under my desk for the modem/router thing
[06:30] <duckdown> nalioth: what do you mean?
[06:30] <cobelloy> for the tech guy
[06:30] <jeramy> so cobelloy, what's the problem?
[06:30] <sudharsh> micheal__ forgive me...i didnt get u
[06:30] <nalioth> duckdown: why do you need libqt3 ?
[06:30] <cobelloy> my ethernet card is not configured and I need it asap
[06:31] <michael__> k, sry for being arrogant
[06:31] <regeya_> Dr_Willis, same here, iirc.  Well, a brief return to gentoo about 6 months ago.  I found I didn't have the time and wanted to do things other than updating/troubleshooting.  in other words, I wanted to be a user for a change, not a wannabe dev ;-)
[06:31] <cobelloy> for broadband installation - the tech guy is here now
[06:31] <duckdown> because there seems to be many KDE apps that arent in my aptitude/synaptic :(
[06:31] <duckdown> duckdown: so Im trying to configure KMuddy
[06:31] <duckdown> doh
[06:31] <duckdown> nalioth: I meant, im trying to compile KMuddy, but other programs have asked for it too..
[06:31] <sudharsh> duckdown: b4 me kick me....did u eanble all ya repos
[06:31] <nalioth> duckdown: join #kubuntu-offtopic please
[06:32] <Hobz> how do I find out what kernel version I have?
[06:32] <michael__> I have gcc-4.0 base installed
[06:32] <duckdown> sudharsh: Only UNIVERSE, i didnt find out Multiverse sources for synaptic and they arent includedf
[06:32] <bimberi> Hobz: uname -r
[06:32] <garry> whoever got empy page error trying to download new wallpaper in kde, I just tried it, I got the empty page for a second, and then a selection of new wallpapers appeared. It could be that there is a large number of new files to choose from and its just taking longer to download the thumbnails than usual.
[06:32] <duckdown> nalioth: OK sir
[06:32] <Hobz> thanks bimberi
[06:33] <bimberi> Hobz: yw :)
[06:33] <sudharsh> duckdown: u also need to install the corresponding dev packages
[06:33] <jeramy> cobelloy, so you're using dialup atm and you're connecting to a DSL modem, or cable modem?
[06:33] <jeramy> cobelloy, or are you having trouble loading a driver?
[06:33] <sudharsh> if u r installing from source that is
[06:33] <cobelloy> no - i am  switching to sattelite broadband today
[06:34] <cobelloy> the roter thing connects to the eth card
[06:34] <cobelloy>  but it is not configured
[06:34] <jeramy> cobelloy, and do you connect with DHCP?
[06:34] <gil-> is there any software to randonmly change the desktop background?
[06:34] <michael__> timfrost: sudharsh: approx. how long 'till you get to me?
[06:34] <cobelloy> not dhcp, hang on
[06:34] <z|bandito> the amd64 install cd also fails at Load Installer COmponents from CD
[06:35] <cobelloy> it is tcp/ip
[06:35] <garry> gil-, what gui are you using, gnome or kde?
[06:35] <z|bandito> is there an issue with dual layer dvdrw drives?
[06:35] <gil-> garry, gnome
[06:35] <jeramy> cobelloy, DHCP is a protocol that runs over TCP/IP
[06:35] <timfrost> michael__, I can't help.  The only Java stuff I deal with is the java pluigin in my browser.
[06:35] <sudharsh> oh sorry...its my cellphone
[06:35] <michael__> k
[06:36] <jeramy> Is it satellite<->router<->PC?
[06:36] <garry> gil- ok, let me switch back to gnome and see if I can find an option for that.
[06:36] <sudharsh> micheal try compileng the thingy with gcc-3.4
[06:36] <michael__> what channel might i find help for java on?
[06:36] <Hobz> #java
[06:36] <michael__> ow fo i do that?
[06:36] <z|bandito> "The ./pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-image-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic_2.6.12-9.23_amd64.deb file failed the md5 checksum verification.  Your CDROM or this file may have been corrupted
[06:36] <jeramy> cobelloy, I mean satellite modem<->router<->PC?
[06:36] <michael__> how do*
[06:37] <jawshoewah> nautilus is a pig that hogs all my cpu even though I give priority to rythmbox
[06:37] <z|bandito> but it verified ok.. :(
[06:37] <cobelloy> no router, fixed ip modem
[06:37] <cobelloy> sorry - my mistake
[06:37] <sudharsh>  micheal__ try gij-4.0
[06:37] <jawshoewah> I should be able to tell my computer to reserve enough memory and cpu to keep my mp3's from skipping when I mulittask
[06:38] <LetterRip_afk> Hi all - how do we ensure that the latest version of our software will be in the next Ubunutu release?
[06:38] <sudharsh> jawshoewah: tell me the amt of ram u r havin
[06:38] <jawshoewah> 256
[06:38] <sudharsh> hmm....
[06:38] <damasta> jaw
[06:38] <jawshoewah> yaw?
[06:38] <damasta> jawshoewah, look into nice values
[06:38] <sudharsh> jawshoewah: tr u usin xmms
[06:38] <michael__> san error w/ gij
[06:38] <B_166-ER-X> !easysource
[06:38] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:39] <LetterRip> we currently are at the 2.40 version of Blender, and at the end of the week will be at 2.41 whereas Ubuntu lists 2.37a
[06:39] <michael__> .join #java
[06:39] <jawshoewah> xmms doesnt support rbscroller
[06:39] <jeramy> cobelloy, hm.. so you mean that your computer is assigned a static IP, and you just connect directly through the satellite modem?
[06:39] <jawshoewah> i like the feel of rythmbox
[06:39] <cobelloy> yep
[06:39] <mjbjr> a friend I'm helping has been running u5.10 and using a modem to connect to the net.  Later this week, I will install a nic for dsl.  On the reboot, will ubuntu see the nic and do the dhcp thing, or will I have to do this manually via some sort of net admin app?
[06:39] <jawshoewah> I would like to help in it's development
[06:39] <LetterRip> 2.40 and 2.41 have 200 significant bug fixes or so relative to the previous versions
[06:40] <jawshoewah> my nice val;ues are set to give rythmbox highest priority nautilus keeps stealing all the cpu though
[06:40] <jeramy> cobelloy, ok.  Go to System->Administration->Networking
[06:40] <karlan> i know that linux does not support ntfs-partitions in the linux kernel, but is there any easy way to get access etc? does anyone know if there are any plans in migrating ntfs in the linux kernel in the future?
[06:40] <michael__> shit, how do i id myswlf w/ the server>
[06:40] <jawshoewah> is nice a true representation of priority
[06:40] <crimsun> LetterRip: we're fast approaching Upstream Version Freeze (UVF), so we'd like to avoid unnecessary version splits with Debian unstable unless absolutely critical
[06:40] <cobelloy> ok, then what
[06:41] <sudharsh> michael__ /join #java
[06:41] <brenner> karlan: you *ca* access, you just can't write safely
[06:41] <LetterRip> crimsun - ok Debian unstable will have the version end of the week
[06:41] <brenner> s/ca/can
[06:41] <jeramy> you enter your password, and is there an "Ethernet connection" there?
[06:41] <michael__> tells me i need to be idetified to join that channel
[06:41] <karlan> brenner, how?
[06:41] <sudharsh> u need 2 register first
[06:41] <crimsun> LetterRip: then that's a no brainer; it will auto-sync into Dapper
[06:41] <garry> Here is info on a python script to set up gnome background switching for whoever asked about it. http://chakravyuh.blogspot.com/2005/10/gnome-wallpaper-switcher.html
[06:41] <Miyomei> Okay, back. With more problems. ;p
[06:41] <brenner> ubotu: tell karlan about ntfs
[06:41] <LetterRip> crimsun ok
[06:41] <michael__> how do i register??
[06:42] <LetterRip> when is UVF
[06:42] <jawshoewah> I am trying to divide my cpu amongst most common tasks 1. Mp3 2. Xchat 3. Firefox 4. Terminal I switch between these apps quickly and want to keep everything smooth
[06:42] <LetterRip> so I can make sure things aren't delayed beyond then?
[06:42] <timfrost> mjbjr, you will have to do some configuring.  If his DSL provides a DHCP server, you can just configure the eth0 for DHCP. System->Administration->Ntworking is where you dio the config
[06:42] <sudharsh> try http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[06:42] <mjbjr> timfrost: thanks
[06:42] <karlan> brenner, when i access my ntfs partition in System -> Administration -> Disks -> Browse, i can see the files, but not execute them
[06:42] <damasta> jawshoewah, did you try nice value assinging?
[06:42] <brenner> karlan: that'll give you ro access...if you want a shareable partition, at this stage the best option is still fat
[06:42] <jeramy> cobelloy, do you see an "Ethernet connection" The interface eth0 is not configured?  (or something like that?)
[06:42] <cobelloy> sorry - yes, ethernet
[06:43] <cobelloy> hang on
[06:43] <crimsun> LetterRip: Jan 19th.
[06:43] <jeramy> ok, click on it, and then click Properties
[06:43] <LetterRip> crimsun another related question - we have some out of tree translations occurring for the Chinese language and they would like Rosetta pointed to their site
[06:43] <Miyomei> Now the first installation CD messed up at 6%, and it was burned at 24x. This one was done at 4x and and it gave me a a CRC error in the DOS-like pre-setup while it was unpacking, then a 'kernel panic' error shortly afterwards, and it stopped responding.
[06:43] <karlan> brenner, i know about fat32, but there is a limit for filesizes around 4 gigs, right? my dvd's :<
[06:43] <garry> and be sure to not put spaces before the registering commands like I got when I copied and pasted. The result was that IRC broadcast my password to the entire forum. use the server window for the setup.
[06:43] <LetterRip> is such possible?
[06:43] <cobelloy> device eth0 the check box for configured is not checked
[06:43] <jawshoewah> damasta: yes but it still sacrifices mp3 quality while copying files to harddrive
[06:44] <jeramy> Ok, click the checkbox
[06:44] <LetterRip> also we have a substantial manual for our project - does it need to be similarly packaged?
[06:44] <crimsun> LetterRip: Rosetta's not in my expertise; try #launchpad, #ubuntu-devel, or #rosetta
[06:44] <cobelloy> yep - then
[06:44] <LetterRip> ok thank you
[06:44] <brenner> karlan: i'm not sure on the size limit.  how'd you mount the ntfs partition?
[06:44] <damasta> oh
[06:44] <jeramy> set your Configuration to Static IP address
[06:44] <jeramy> Enter your IP, Subnet, and Gateway address
[06:44] <cobelloy> done, does that mean that my ethernet card does actually work?
[06:44] <jeramy> Looks like it.
[06:45] <karlan> brenner, ubuntu mounted it automaticly i think. in my filemanager, i have Home, Filesystem, hdc1, hdb1, hda1
[06:45] <cobelloy> the tech guy will do that for me when he is finished installing the hardware
[06:45] <sudharsh> brenner: check out /et/cfstab
[06:45] <sudharsh> */fstab
[06:45] <karlan> but when i try to access any of the hd*1, i get an error
[06:45] <cobelloy> so it was this easy all along then?
[06:45] <jeramy> 99% of the Ethernet cards I've used work in Linux.
[06:45] <jeramy> Yep, it's that easy.  :)
[06:45] <cobelloy> it is an onboard mobo one tho
[06:45] <sudharsh> brenner: check whether u hav read access in fstab
[06:46] <brenner> karlan: do what sudharsh is saying :)
[06:46] <jeramy> cobelloy, in that pastebin that you posted, it shows your eth0 as a listed device, so chances are it was detected.  ;)
[06:47] <brenner> karlan: paste the output of /etcfstab to a pastebin and we'll have a look
[06:47] <karlan> brenner, pm for long paste
[06:47] <jeramy> I encountered one board with an on-board NIC that didn't work in Linux.
[06:47] <brenner> /etc/fstab
[06:47] <cobelloy> oh I see, I really am not as linux savvy as I think I am, thatnk goodness for forums and irc!!
[06:47] <jawshoewah> 1.3 ghz proc 256 mb ram should be enough to copy files and listen to music without mp3's lagging right?
[06:47] <shadowplay> has anyone had trouble getting the nvidia driver to work with a geforce2 after a kernel upgrade?
[06:47] <brenner> karlan: pastebin's better....that way everyone can have a look-see
[06:47] <jeramy> Yep, what would we do w/o the community?
[06:47] <karlan> there is only one line in the bash script
[06:47] <karlan> Ignoring /dev/hda1 - already in /etc/fstab
[06:47] <karlan> Ignoring /dev/hdb1 - already in /etc/fstab
[06:47] <karlan> Ignoring /dev/hdc1 - already in /etc/fstab
[06:47] <karlan> No usable windows/mac partitions found
[06:47] <_ian_> is kubuntu jsut like ubuntu only with kde?
[06:47] <karlan> oops
[06:47] <jeramy> _ian_, yes
[06:48] <karlan> :)
[06:48] <marcster> i think normally you should recompile your nvidia drivers after a kernel upgrade
[06:48] <cobelloy> I am going away from the4 computer for a bit - the tech guy will need me for a bit - thanks guys!! (especially jeramy)
[06:48] <cobelloy> brb
[06:48] <garry> shadowplay, thiat is a possibility, ye might try reinstalling the nvidia.
[06:48] <karlan> the partitions is already mounted, but i cant access them properly :\
[06:48] <jawshoewah> 1.3 ghz proc 256 mb ram should be enough to copy files and listen to music without mp3's lagging right?
[06:48] <jeramy> cobelloy, np  :)
[06:48] <sudharsh> give us the out put karlan
[06:49] <brenner> karlan: that's why we're gonna look at the settings in fstab
[06:49] <_ian_> what if i alreayd installed regular ubuntu and want to get the kubuntu isntead do i have to reinstall all over agian and download kubuntu?
[06:49] <karlan> ok, w8
[06:49] <jawshoewah> does ubuntu truley allow for cpu mangagment?
[06:49] <timfrost> karlan, pastebin /etc/fstab
[06:49] <sudharsh> _ian_ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:49] <brenner> sudharsh: i'm deferring to you
[06:49] <karlan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6873
[06:49] <karlan> there is fstab
[06:49] <sudharsh> k
[06:50] <shadowplay> marcster: that could be it.  I have it working in gentoo, but ubuntu being difficult.
[06:50] <garry> _ian_, I just backed up my ubuntu and installed kde too. Now I have both kde and gnome availalable to me on ubunto breezy.
[06:50] <jawshoewah> hmmm
[06:50] <shadowplay> garry: i reinstalled everything to do with nvidia via apt-get, but maybe I should recompile instead.
[06:50] <sudharsh> karaln how many harddisks di u hav
[06:51] <karlan> sudharsh, 3
[06:51] <karlan> 2 80 gb, 1 120
[06:51] <garry> Yes, that should help.
[06:51] <marcster> i wish ubuntu had something like dkm
[06:51] <garry> shadowplay yes, that would be a good second step to try.
[06:51] <jawshoewah> does system monitor noce settings really work?
[06:51] <marcster> or does ubuntu have it already?
[06:51] <jawshoewah> nice
[06:52] <sudharsh> karlan u dont hav any extended ntfs partitions
[06:52] <karlan> sudharsh, huh?
[06:53] <Zen> how much space does a fresh install of Ubuntu 5.10 take?
[06:53] <Zen> default
[06:53] <mustard5> Zen, about 2.5 gigs I think
[06:53] <Madpilot> Zen: about 1.8Gb
[06:53] <sudharsh> k letme guess....u have C:,D:E: on separate partitions
[06:53] <mustard5> oh..hehe
[06:54] <_ian_> hi did you do that garry...sorry im a real noob....just jumped to linux last week
[06:54] <Zen> Linux for me is like the Crusades
[06:54] <garry> say _ian_ do what?
[06:54] <karlan> sudharsh, yeah, something like that
[06:54] <shadowplay> Zen: ? how so ?
[06:54] <karlan> dont remember the exact driveletters
[06:54] <Zen> I'm always trying to get games to work and VB.NET development in linux for what I truely love (linux)
[06:55] <_ian_> to switch to kde....because i really like kde....i tried many distros before but only ubuntu worked fine for me....but what i miss is the kde interface
[06:55] <Zen> if I could do both of those, I think I could use it exclusively
[06:55] <Zen> and I want to
[06:55] <karlan> _ian_, kubuntu? ubuntu with KDE
[06:55] <garry> _ian_ yes, I did install kde from the package manager, it worked fine, it's been over a week.
[06:56] <timfrost> _ain_ , sudo apt-get kubuntu_desktop to add KDE
[06:56] <sudharsh> karlan...i dont think therss anythin rong with ur fstab
[06:56] <z|bandito> are there any known issues with nforce4 chipsets?
[06:56] <karlan> sudharsh, me neither :\ but it still wont work :\
[06:56] <karlan> i can access the disks via System -> Administration -> Disks -> Browse
[06:56] <brenner> _ian_: what timfrost said.  then choose kde from the sessions menu at login
[06:56] <garry> I used package manager after backking things up, and now have both gnome and kde on Ubuntu. its been over a week, and it still seems to work ok.
[06:56] <karlan> but i can only see the files there, not execute them nor copy them
[06:57] <Zen> _ian_: I had good luck with Debian, but it was like the AlwaysSave of linux--what is there is fine, but you just don't get much
[06:57] <sudharsh> karlan...maybe i  missed all the fun....but u wont hav write access to ntfs partitions
[06:57] <Zen> _ian_: I like Ubuntu too :)
[06:57] <_ian_> hmmm the package manager is the add application in the menu right?
[06:57] <sudharsh> karlan else...do a umount and try again
[06:57] <garry> what brenner said is important about switching between windows managers.
[06:57] <Zen> _ian_: That's one--you still have synaptic
[06:58] <karlan> sudharsh, i just want to copy over some mp3's, not write to the ntfs.that i have understood that there is a compability issue
[06:58] <neoxite> hi, installed ubuntu 5.10 in server-expert mode, but now i'd like to manually set up usplash again, i haven't found a tutorial for that though
[06:58] <sudharsh> try doing it as root
[06:58] <karlan> sudharsh, just umount in terminal?
[06:58] <z|bandito> is there a place to see hardware support issues?  like known issues with a given chipset or mobo
[06:58] <shadowplay> Zen: don't get much? Debian's got a lot of packages.  But not as slick or uptodate a Ubuntu, yes
[06:58] <sudharsh> no...umount /dev/<whatever>
[06:59] <Zen> karlan: When you mount your ntfs partition, use the options ro,umask=0222 and it will prevent write damage to it
[06:59] <sudharsh> and then try mounting the partitions one by one
[06:59] <brenner> _ian_: no.  that's just a small frontend to common apps people may want.  the "real" package mgr is synaptic
[06:59] <karlan> sudharsh, it has been like this since i installed ubuntu. never got any permissions to the ntfs part. it remounts every time it starts, right?
[06:59] <sudharsh> karlan....i dont hav ntfs partitins
[06:59] <karlan> sudharsh, ok :\
[06:59] <_ian_> ok im here now which oen do i choose?
[06:59] <sudharsh> try unmounting everything...u have to be root for that
[07:00] <timfrost> _ian_, no, System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[07:00] <Pygi> he can "unmount" everything
[07:00] <nemik> so any of your universities use EAP-TTLS with PAP? WPA_supplicant just won't work for me...
[07:00] <_ian_> all the klde desktop envioronment?
[07:00] <_ian_> kde?
[07:00] <Zen> shadowplay: yeah, that's pretty much what I mean...except for the base install has a lot less stuff (like ALSA--dunno why anybody would still use OSS as the default)
[07:00] <garry> yes, all that starts with kde.
[07:00] <karlan> do you know if it is possible to convert a disk from ntfs to fat32 without deleting the files? ;D
[07:01] <sudharsh> maybe partition magic works :D
[07:01] <karlan> sudharsh, even the ext3 part.?
[07:01] <liable> karlan: you cant do that.
[07:01] <sudharsh> noo...jus the ntfs part ur havin trouble with
[07:01] <karlan> liable, didnt think so :)
[07:01] <karlan> sudharsh, ok, w8
[07:01] <elw00t> ello
[07:01] <garry> I wonder if extX and reiserfs and other linux partitions ever need defragging.
[07:02] <nemik> well transfer the files from one partition to the other, then format it and change, then put the files back,....
[07:02] <timfrost> _ian_, the meta-packlage kubuntu_desktop will pull in all the packages you need
[07:02] <brenner> _ian_: search button, then find kubuntu-desktop
[07:02] <meshe> karlan: i had to do that yesterday, i copied the files from my ntfs D drive to my ntfs C drive then reformatted D to ntfs and copied the files back
[07:02] <karlan> meshe, yeah, but i got like 1 gig free space now :)
[07:02] <garry> nice timfrost that is much simpler
[07:02] <meshe> then blew away the C drive and installed ubuntu on it :)
[07:02] <shadowplay> karlan: if you are only concerned with accessing data from linux though, you dont need to convert.  Just shrink the NTFS, make a new vfat partition, and copy the data over.  if you have the space.
[07:02] <karlan> so that isnt an option for me at this time :\
[07:02] <meshe> :(
[07:02] <meshe> have a dvd burner?
[07:03] <brenner> garry: not sure on reiser, but i'm pretty sure ext* don't need to
[07:03] <karlan> meshe, yeah, but not the time or dvd-r's to burn out 150 gigs of files ;D
[07:03] <garry> brenner :) Thanks!
[07:03] <shadowplay> garry: reiser doesn't either
[07:03] <karlan> well, thank you for your time and help :)
[07:03] <_ian_> ok found it ill install it now
[07:03] <garry> thanks kindly
[07:03] <BradM> dude
[07:04] <karlan> will try to borrow a new disk to get all my files so i can copy it over to ext3
[07:04] <BradM> while connected to an FTP server via terminal..if i type chmod -R 777 dir ..it doesn't work
[07:04] <garry> brenner shadowplay says reiserfs doesn't need it either.
[07:04] <meshe> go to a store that has a good return policy and buy a hard drive, copy the data to it, reformat the drive, copy the data back and return the drive?
[07:04] <garry> haha
[07:04] <sudharsh> BradM use gftp
[07:04] <BradM> no
[07:04] <karlan> what is the biggest filesize ext3 capable of?
[07:04] <BradM> i want to use a terminal
[07:04] <timfrost> garry, there are packages like that for each of the different desktop enmvironments - ubuntu-desktop for gnome, xubuntu-desktop for XFCE
[07:05] <BradM> now answer my question according to what i asked, or dont say shit to me
[07:05] <sudharsh> well u cant chmod a public server
[07:05] <BradM> erm
[07:05] <shadowplay> karlan: also look to see if cygwin can mount ext3.  Then you can boot to windows, and use cygwin for the copy.
[07:05] <BradM> who said it was public?
[07:05] <BradM> its my person webserver
[07:05] <BradM> personal*
[07:05] <BradM> so hwo do you fucking do it
[07:05] <karlan> cygwin?
[07:05] <peej> every now and then my ubuntu freezes. Maybe 3 or 4 times a day. Knoppix seems fine though, so it is probably not a hardware problem.
[07:05] <meshe> cygwin can mount ext3
[07:05] <garry> timfrost,  Yep, found em. Sure is nice to have them so handy. :)
[07:05] <Myrtti> please watch your language
[07:05] <sudharsh> dude u gotta need some decency
[07:05] <BradM> Myrtti, okay..sorry
[07:06] <Myrtti> thank you.
[07:06] <Myrtti> --> hot shower
[07:06] <sudharsh> k u missed the *
[07:06] <_ian_> ok im downloading now....after the downlaod of the kubuntu desk top all i have to do is log in as kde right?
[07:06] <BradM> Myrtti, no problem
[07:06] <_ian_> uysing the same password and log in name?
[07:06] <shadowplay> BradM: ssh to the server instead.
[07:06] <BradM> please and thank you tend to have a better affect
[07:06] <sudharsh> _ian_ yes
[07:06] <B_166-ER-X> !win32
[07:06] <ubotu> B_166-ER-X: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:06] <BradM> shadowplay, ever think that the server might not support SSH?
[07:06] <karlan> shadowplay, have patient with me, i recently came home from work :) So if i got this right, use Cygwin under Windows, and mount my ext3 partition and copy over the files there?
[07:06] <garry> LOg out, log in after clicking session, as brenner mentioned.
[07:07] <mark_> Hey guys, any idea why the installation process and then the boot process could be soooo slow (on P-M with 1 gig of memory), thanks
[07:07] <B_166-ER-X> !win32codecs
[07:07] <ubotu> win32codecs is, like, totally, binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[07:07] <sethk> mark_, shouldn't be.
[07:08] <sethk> mark_, that's plenty of ram.  the P-M isn't a screamer, but I have one here and it isn't noticably slow
[07:08] <peej> bradm: what's your query?
[07:08] <brenner> mark_: breezy?
[07:08] <BradM> peej, erm
[07:08] <mark_> yep
[07:08] <BradM> my query?
[07:08] <sudharsh> Br,
[07:08] <sudharsh> BradM u missed the *
[07:08] <shadowplay> BradM: ok, well my guess is (and I haven't done it in a long time) you will need to send a server command via ftp
[07:08] <BradM> if i go to a terminal and type ftp www.whatever.com and want to chmod somethign with the recursive switch..how do i do it? .....
[07:08] <palomer> does ubuntu use unstable?
[07:08] <sethk> mark_, not much you can do to investigate install, but the boot process you can investigate
[07:08] <BradM> chmod -R 777 dir
[07:08] <BradM> doesn't work
[07:08] <sudharsh> u should use *
[07:08] <peej> bradm : how do you fucking do it ? do what?
[07:09] <BradM> i believe i have already stated that
[07:09] <BradM> sudharsh, use * for what?
[07:09] <timfrost> BradM, are you trying to change things on the remote server
[07:09] <BradM> .....
[07:09] <BradM> its a webserver
[07:09] <BradM> not mine, i dont run it
[07:09] <BradM> i want to chmod a directory
[07:09] <peej> bradm: yup. You have ftp access? web access?
[07:09] <BradM> and all files under it
[07:09] <BradM> YES IM NOT THAT STUPID
[07:10] <BradM> i just need the correct chmoding syntax
[07:10] <brenner> palomer: as in debian repos? no
[07:10] <Zen> what kind of themes do I look for to use with Ubuntu?
[07:10] <mark_> sethk: Hmm, how? It seems that each individual element of the boot process is very slow...
[07:10] <sudharsh> u need to change the permissions all the files u need to use chmod 777 * -R
[07:10] <BradM> ahh
[07:10] <peej> ok, so run a cgi that does it for you.
[07:10] <BradM> wait
[07:10] <crimsun> I don't think you want to give the files the same mask as the directory.
[07:10] <BradM> * ??
[07:10] <BradM> that is a wildcard
[07:10] <BradM> and it will do it to all files
[07:10] <palomer> brenner: is it dangerous to upgrade ubuntu with unstable?
[07:10] <sudharsh> Zen gotot gnome-look.org
[07:10] <BradM> nvm
[07:10] <sethk> mark_, I would boot into maintenance mode and run each one.  If they are all slow, then there is a common cause, but the only way to find it is to investigate one slow part
[07:10] <BradM> chmod 777 DIRECTORY -R
[07:10] <sudharsh> BradM i thought thats what u r tryin 2 do
[07:11] <peej> bradm : chmod -R whateverdirectory    from within backticks in perl will do it.
[07:11] <crimsun> I _really_ don't think you want 0777.
[07:11] <BradM> still didn't work
[07:11] <_ian_> will the packages that oi have installed using gnome be detected when i run kde?
[07:11] <mark_> -- furthermore, I know it sounds silly, but even grub seems to take more than it should (e.g. it takes 3-4 seconds to load, whereas on similar laptop it takes less than a second)
[07:11] <brenner> palomer: dunno sorry
[07:11] <sudharsh> _ian_ it will
[07:11] <sethk> mark_, it doesn't sound silly, but unfortunately it also doesn't sound obvious
[07:11] <peej> bradm: your syntax is fucked up. Here is a literal example: chmod -R 777 directorywhatever
[07:12] <crimsun> BradM: not all ftpds allow that. You need to ssh in.
[07:12] <BradM> that dont work
[07:12] <sethk> mark_, you mean the part of grub before the boot splash?
[07:12] <BradM> crimsun, can't
[07:12] <mark_> seth: yep
[07:12] <sudharsh> gotta use sudo
[07:13] <sethk> mark_, about the only thing of any load at that point is reading the disk
[07:13] <shadowplay> BradM: look at the quote and site commands
[07:13] <BradM> ftp> chmod -R 777 cutenews
[07:13] <BradM> 550 Could not change perms on 777: No such file or directory
[07:13] <BradM> ftp> chmod 777 -R cutenews
[07:13] <sethk> mark_, which certainly could slow everything up
[07:13] <sethk> mark_, after it boots, try using the IDE drive test program and get a read rate on the disk
[07:13] <varsendagger> anyone from bozeman mt?
[07:14] <peej> bradm: you're probably not in the right directory. Look, if you have web access, run it as a cgi script, so you can specify the full path etc.
[07:14] <mark_> sethk: ok, thanks, any standard names here?
[07:14] <BradM> you're an idiot
[07:14] <sethk> mark_, hdparm?  let me check
[07:15] <varsendagger> !ff1.5
[07:15] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:15] <garry> BradM, please, politeness here has been so refreshing. It would be wonderful to keep it that way.
[07:15] <sethk> mark_, yes, hdparm has flags to test the drive performance.  Of course use a read only non-destructive test
[07:15] <kasz> how do you apply a unified diff that has been made with the recursive option?
[07:15] <shadowplay> BradM: why in the world is he an idiot?  That would work fine as long as your cgi scripts have perms
[07:16] <BradM> dont
[07:16] <BradM> say
[07:16] <BradM> my
[07:16] <BradM> nick
[07:16] <BradM> again
[07:16] <tescoil> awright.  Inadvertently deleted the lower panel on the desktop.  Got it back, but nothing will minimize to it now.
[07:16] <Myrtti> oh please
[07:16] <mark_> sethk: well bufered disk reads seem to be fine: 17Mb/S
[07:16] <sethk> mark_, that's quite low, but not low enough to cause what you are seeing, I agree
[07:16] <garry> Why? Nothing wrong with your nick.
[07:16] <sethk> mark_, you just don't have enough data.  You have to gather more.
[07:17] <sethk> mark_, the SAR toolkit has a lot of performance measuring utilities
[07:17] <BradM> yes
[07:17] <BradM> it makes me beep
[07:17] <BradM> and its annoying
[07:17] <tescoil> That is, minimizing a window just disappears off to the bottom of the screen, to no icon limbo.
[07:17] <garry> oh wow
[07:17] <sethk> BradM, we can help you get rid of the beep.  which irc client do you use?  :)
[07:17] <garry> that would be annoying.
[07:17] <BradM> haha
[07:17] <BradM> i dont want you to help me
[07:17] <peej> bradm: if you can't figure it out, say why. Leaving out the insults will help you get help.
[07:17] <BradM> dont say it
[07:18] <sethk> peej, just assume he is frustrated and ignore him.
[07:18] <Zen> sudharsh: this is so weird--I stumbled over this last time
[07:18] <Myrtti> he doesn't want us to help him, so let's leave him be.
[07:18] <B_166-ER-X> is there an other way to get w32codecs ? the repos from seveas are not working
[07:18] <Zen> sudharsh: Now I can't figure out how to download any themes
[07:18] <Myrtti> I don't like people being rude here
[07:18] <sethk> Myrtti, neither do I, and I try not to be rude, but it happens occasionally.
[07:19] <sudharsh> Zen......i didnt get u
[07:20] <mark_> sethk:  ok, i will try to check... But it is still weird - XP works fine...
[07:20] <garry> system/preferences/art manager to download more themes.
[07:20] <sethk> mark_, it is definitely weird.  unfortunately weird doesn't help us fix it.  :)
[07:20] <sethk> mark_, the drive not using dma is something that can cause what you are seeing, but hdparm would show a lower rate
[07:21] <sethk> mark_, what processor?  which install did you use?
[07:21] <chihuong> help me
[07:21] <damasta> B_166-ER-X, get them from mplayer's website
[07:21] <rollo> how do you install firefox 1.5 on ubuntu?
[07:21] <_ian_> anyone can paste a good tutorial for ubuntu beginners
[07:21] <chihuong> x-unikey in ubuntu
[07:21] <sethk> chihuong, ask question, get help.
[07:21] <damasta> rollo, I'm using the download from mozilla's site
[07:21] <shadowplay> rollo: just download it from mozilla, and unzip it.  I don't think there's a pkg for it yet
[07:21] <BradM> dude
[07:22] <sudharsh> _ian_ check ubuntuguide
[07:22] <BradM> with gftp you can't chmod one folder and make it chmod EVERYTHING under it
[07:22] <rollo> ok thanks damasta and shadowplay
[07:22] <sudharsh> rollo try this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:22] <mark_> sethk: centrino 1.4Ghz, (I am not sure about which variation of centrino), i've used the last install from ubunto
[07:22] <Myrtti> !ubuntuguide
[07:22] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[07:22] <tescoil> Is there somewhere I have to define the general behavior of the minimize button on application windows?
[07:22] <sethk> mark_, the 386 version, then.
[07:22] <rollo> Thanks sudharsh
[07:22] <mark_> sethk:  yep
[07:23] <sethk> mark_, I wonder if power management (ACPI) is throttling the cpu
[07:23] <sethk> mark_, that doesn't help us with grub, though
[07:23] <kasz> how do you apply a unified diff that has been made with the recursive option?
[07:23] <sethk> mark_, just for a test, disable power management in the bios, see if there is any noticable change in the performance.
[07:24] <mark_> possibly, the cpufreq says the frequency is 600000...
[07:24] <sethk> mark_, that's a weird number.  But you still have the XP doesn't do it to account for
[07:25] <greg> i need a lil help again i'm tring to install a program and it is telling me to sign in as the super user and i just finished installing it. and i signed in as the admin
[07:25] <palomer> greg: that sounds awful:O!
[07:25] <mark_> sethk: why is it weird?
[07:25] <garry> greg, ye used sudo before the command to install?
[07:25] <sethk> mark_, 600000 for a 1.4 M?
[07:26] <shadowplay> greg: you installed it using synaptic?
[07:26] <sudharsh> greg use sudo
[07:26] <greg> ok i will
[07:26] <_ian_> ok im done downlaoding the kubuntu desktop in synaptic...then it asked me what manager to be default i chose kdm would that pose a problem?
[07:26] <Myrtti> nope
[07:26] <sudharsh> its ur wish _ian_ whichever u think looks good
[07:27] <sethk> _ian_, probably not, but it isn't necessary.
[07:27] <mark_> sethk: the cpuinfo_min/max freq says 600/1400
[07:27] <sethk> _ian_, why use kdm if gdm is installed and working?
[07:27] <varsendagger> !ff1.5
[07:27] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:27] <sethk> mark_, oh, I thought you meant 600 fixed
[07:27] <garry> He misses some of the goodies in kde
[07:28] <peej> every now and then my ubuntu freezes. Maybe 3 or 4 times a day. Knoppix seems fine though, so it is probably not a hardware problem. Just running on knoppix for now to see if I get a freeze.
[07:28] <sethk> garry, by not using kdm?  I doubt it.  kdm only starts kde, it doesn't help it run.
[07:28] <sethk> garry, unless you mean start options or something like that
[07:28] <Myrtti> peej: try running memtest at startup
[07:28] <mark_> sethk: no, just the cpu_cur_freq is set to it...  I dunno, but the speed of processor should not affect it that mcuh, I think hard drive is more likely to be the reason...
[07:28] <garry> sethk sounds like I misread something.
[07:29] <sudharsh> sethk....is that so
[07:29] <sethk> garry, ok
[07:29] <mark_> sethk: is there any easy way to see if DMA is enabled?
[07:29] <Myrtti> peej: since knoppix reads everything from the disk the RAM problems might not show with it
[07:29] <sethk> mark_, I agree that the disk is more likely, but you measured the rate and that measurement is usually fairly accurate.
[07:29] <BradM> im going to fucking sleep
[07:29] <sethk> mark_, yes, the SMART utility will show you that
[07:30] <mark_> sethk: what package is it in?
[07:30] <greg> has anyone ever installed showeq with ubuntu?
[07:30] <sethk> mark_, smartctl
[07:30] <shadowplay> peej: you're running knopixx off the livecd?  The freezing with ubuntu could be a drive problem then?
[07:30] <mark_> sethk: what package is it in?
[07:30] <sethk> mark_, not sure, I installed it from source.
[07:31] <sethk> mark_, should be in a disk utilities package
[07:31] <LinuxMonk> i just installed a program to come to find out it copied the root pw as its own yet i had not changed it to my own yet, so I uninstall the package and now when i try to re-install it wont fully install cause it says it was a previously deselected package. how do I fix this
[07:31] <garry> Oh yes, shadowplay , I had same issue, it was the hard drive going bad.
[07:31] <sudharsh> LinuxMonk...try apt-get update
[07:32] <_ian_> for me i think i just want kde better....im a newbie on ;linux but i feel its easier to use
[07:32] <sudharsh> and then apt-get install -f
[07:32] <sudharsh> _ian_ go for it
[07:32] <shadowplay> LinuxMonk: if that doesn't work, you might try purging the package first.
[07:33] <LinuxMonk> shadowplay how do I do that?
[07:33] <shadowplay> _ian_: you're in good company.  Linus likes it too.
[07:33] <mark_> sethk: can't seem to find it...
[07:33] <timfrost> LinuxMonk, try sudo apt-get remove --purge <package>
[07:33] <sethk> mark_, it's a very small thing, download and build the source
[07:33] <sethk> mark_, it won't bother the package manager.
[07:33] <garry> I installed dropline gnome on my slack, its lovely, its precompiled for 686 as opposed to the kde which was for 386 or 486
[07:33] <sethk> mark_, look for smartd, that should be part of the same package
[07:33] <sudharsh> garry: the url?
[07:34] <odat> hi everyone
[07:34] <sudharsh> brb
[07:34] <garry> sudharsh I had to google dropline and gnome. I think i tmight be www.dropline.net
[07:34] <LinuxMonk> oh crap, im running kubuntu is it the same thing?
[07:35] <polpak> LinuxMonk: essentially
[07:35] <polpak> LinuxMonk: just a different desktop environment
[07:35] <_ian_> okim gonna log out and log in again see if it works!:)
[07:35] <shadowplay> odat: we're not being rude... ppl just drop in and ask questions, mostly, without the greetings
[07:35] <coz> morning all
[07:35] <garry> sudharsh Its not much different if at all from ubuntu's gnome, so I'm not sure it will install right, but worth a look I suppose.
[07:35] <odat> i like to say hi
[07:36] <coz> hello odat
[07:36] <rabeldable> anyone know anything about burning dvd's?  I'm trying to copy a movie and it hangs at 50%
[07:36] <odat> coz, sup
[07:36] <sethk> LinuxMonk, look at the force flags to dpkg
[07:36] <coz> rabeldable what app are you using to burn
[07:36] <garry> Drat, Coz says its already teusday and I've not recovered from last monday yet!
[07:36] <sethk> LinuxMonk, I think apt-get can force some things; dpkg can definitely force it to complete the install and ignore the message
[07:36] <coz> garry dude sorry
[07:36] <rabeldable> gnomebaker
[07:36] <garry> hehe.
[07:37] <coz> that is the one to use
[07:37] <coz> what are your trying to burn
[07:37] <garry> coz I remember a garfield where he says he hates mondays and rips all the mondays out of a calendar and the next frame, its totally blank.
[07:38] <coz> who was the guy that needed to install dvd capablilities earlier?
[07:38] <iantec> its working:)))))))
[07:38] <rabeldable> its an old war movie... green barret
[07:38] <cobelloy> hello again all
[07:38] <rabeldable> I can watch movies all day long with no problems
[07:38] <garry> grats iantec
[07:38] <coz> rebeldable there should be no reason hold on
[07:39] <rabeldable> i wonder if there is some chip in my laptop preventing burning dvd's
[07:39] <duuude> does anyone have experience installing the SDL_mixer?
[07:39] <cobelloy> hey does anyone have the correct apt lines for the hoary backports?
[07:39] <coz> prbably not do you have dma enabled
[07:39] <LinuxMonk> TY TY guys it worked
[07:39] <rabeldable> i heard compaq puts chips in their desktops to prevent copyright...
[07:39] <nemik> well transfer the files from one partition to the other, then format it and change, then put the files back,....
[07:39] <nemik> so any of your universities use EAP-TTLS with PAP? WPA_supplicant just won't work for me...
[07:40] <coz> if it isd anew motherboard maybe so
[07:40] <Mez> !tell cobelloy about backports
[07:40] <crimsun> !info libsdl-mixer1.2
[07:40] <rabeldable> where would I check for dma?
[07:40] <ubotu> libsdl-mixer1.2: (mixer library for Simple DirectMedia Layer 1.2), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.2.6-1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 128 kB, Installed size: 332 kB
[07:40] <odat> cobelloy, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:40] <coz> NO no t compaq
[07:40] <cobelloy> what about backports?
[07:40] <sethk> rabeldable, smartctl, hdparm
[07:40] <coz> ok open the terminal
[07:40] <odat> cobelloy, go to that site
[07:40] <cobelloy> thank you odat - brb
[07:40] <sudharsh_> rabeldabe hdparm -d /dev/<awhatever>
[07:40] <iantec> hmmm its kinda weird though....why are some windows too long?
[07:40] <jclinton> Whoa!? Look at this! http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/?p=159
[07:40] <rabeldable> its a new laptop... toshiba
[07:40] <jclinton> Mono going in to RedHat!
[07:40] <coz> rabeldable open a terminal
[07:41] <jclinton> hell is freezing somewhere
[07:41] <coz> sudo hdparm /dev/hdc
[07:41] <coz> tell me what it says
[07:41] <shadowplay> jclinton: what's Mono?
[07:41] <coz> nuleosis?
[07:41] <odat> anyone heard anything more about Apple releasing their OS for all hardware?
[07:42] <coz> odat that is like windows going open source
[07:42] <iantec> ok anyway how do i put gnome as the efault startup again?
[07:42] <LinuxMonk> yeah odat its not gonna happen
[07:42] <jclinton> shadowplay, a controversial implementation of MS's .Net architecture
[07:42] <coz> rabeldable did you do the terminal thing
[07:42] <garry> !tell jclinton about mono.
[07:42] <odat> LinuxMonk, dunno they have OS X for intel
[07:42] <odat> ya know
[07:42] <sethk> odat, they agreed to do it, then backed out several times.  It comes up occasionally but it doesn't happen.
[07:42] <coz> rabeldable you still here????
[07:42] <rabeldable> coz: yeah out put shows IO_support, readonly, readahead and geometry.. btw its /dev/sda for me
[07:43] <iantec> anyone?
[07:43] <coz> ok type in sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc
[07:43] <sudharsh_> rabeldabe hdparm -d /dev/<awhatever>
[07:43] <odat> sethk, yea but i mean they really have OS X for intel they are using intel chips soon  you can actually get OS X for intel on certain "cough" sites
[07:43] <coz> that is a one not an l
[07:43] <LinuxMonk> yeah but its hardware locked down and that steve said that his OS would not be released for other hardware other than what u buy from apple
[07:43] !lilo:*! Looks as if we'll be restarting another main rotation server soon; this time about 1,300 users affected. If you're on the server in question, your status/notices window should have information on it.
[07:44] <coz> rabeldable now sudo gedit /etc/hdparm.conf
[07:44] <coz> rabeldable tell when that opens
[07:44] <sethk> odat, yes, but I think the question was about apple doing what IBM did with opening up the hardware architecture.
[07:44] <sethk> odat, unless I misunderstood
[07:44] <odat> LinuxMonk, i think that is a smoke screen more than anything    just like he used to say we don't have or are working on os x for intel
[07:44] <rabeldable> coz: HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[07:44] <iantec> well i have to go now thanks guys!
[07:44] <LinuxMonk> now odat if yer gonna do something illegal dont tell us about and make sure to call the local law enforcement agency in your country :)
[07:44] <coz> check to see where your dvd is
[07:44] <cobelloy> odat - that was cool!
[07:45] <cobelloy> I never find these things when I look :(
[07:45] <odat> sethk, i think they may just start selliing the OS for what ever machine now since they have a new bread and butter the ipod and the music store
[07:45] <LinuxMonk> lol cracking osX for intel, just run linux :)
[07:45] <odat> LinuxMonk, lol
[07:45] <odat> cobelloy, oh you got your sources
[07:45] <rabeldable> /etc/hdparm.conf is all commented out except one line that says quiet
[07:46] <karlan> i dont have any sound in VLC :( sound in Beep-media-player works fine. what is wrong?
[07:46] <shadowplay> odat: all I know is our uni replaced their aging G4's with Dual G5's with cinema displays.  Crazy overpowered for labs where people mostly use Word.  Maybe they're donated tho.
[07:46] <odat> karlan, use mplayer
[07:46] <coz> VLC on linux is the worst great on windows
[07:46] <karlan> odat, my mplayer dont work. crashes etc
[07:46] <sudharsh_> rabledable try adding /dev/cdrom {
[07:46] <sudharsh_>        dma = on
[07:46] <sudharsh_> }
[07:47] <coz> I use both totem-xine and mplayer but only totem-xine for movies
[07:47] <shadowplay> karlan: are they both configured to use esd?
[07:47] <LinuxMonk> a friend of mine works for a small programming company and they got hired by apple to create some apps for the intel base, so he showed me the running osx on intel, it was preaty sharp but was missing a whole lot of stuff since it was being developped
[07:47] <signbarn> Is there any way I can make changes that i make to /dev (creating symlinks and changing permissions) permanent? When I restart my computer, everything just reverts to the way it was.
[07:47] <sudharsh_> jus sub /dev/cdrom with /dev/<whatever>
[07:47] <coz> rabeldable sudharsh is right about the insers for hdparm
[07:47] <odat> Shadowline, they are going to intel   steve said during a conference and he ran the whole show on os x running on intel  :)   anyway it would be interesting to see
[07:47] <karlan> "Audio Output module: Linux OSS audio output"
[07:47] <rabeldable> sudharsh_: what about io32_support = 0 and interupt_unmask = on  ??
[07:48] <coz> rabeldable there are many links to problems enabling dma on laptops I have to look into this more
[07:48] <odat> karlan, then change your preferences of mplayer to esd and get rid of vlc
[07:48] <cobelloy> I use vlc on my daughters ppc
[07:48] <cobelloy> only one that works right
[07:48] <sudharsh_> it'll work
[07:48] <coz> ppc yes for vls not linux
[07:48] <karlan> odat, i cant even start  mplayer, less configure it :\
[07:48] <odat> i have found mplayer to be the best for linux by far
[07:48] <coz> what os on ppc
[07:48] <sudharsh_> i dont hav any o those stuff
[07:48] <cobelloy> got it through synaptic - had all the codecs and everything built in I think
[07:49] <cobelloy> ubuntu on ppc
[07:49] <shadowplay> karlan: you should probably set them both to use esd.  Otherwise it's first come first server on /dev/dsp and only one program can use sound at a time
[07:49] <duuude> so , has anyone here successfully installed SDL Mixer?
[07:49] <coz> oh well still think totem-xine is best
[07:49] <odat> karlan, you should get your self some new repos  and probably reinstall it
[07:49] <odat> karlan, go here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:49] <duuude> i'm trying to install SDL mixer on a fresh hoary install on a powerbook (ppc)
[07:49] <coz> duuude I haven't
[07:49] <cobelloy> hang on I had a sound prob with vlc
[07:49] <cobelloy> that I solved
[07:49] <coz> sound prob with VLC how unusual
[07:49] <coz> lol
[07:49] <odat> anyone see this bible code thing
[07:50] <rabeldable> ok
[07:50] <odat> watching on history channel now
[07:50] <cobelloy> I think you have to select the correct sound output or something, in the options or preferences
[07:50] <odat> pretty weird '
[07:50] <karlan> brb
[07:50] <coz> rabeldable did you get dma on
[07:50] <burstnet> maybe somebody here knows the fix to this, but everytime i click applications menu it shows for less then a second and then dissapears
[07:50] <cobelloy> like OSD or alsa - you know
[07:50] <starscalling> ok really wierd thing here
[07:50] <odat> cobelloy, did you get a cool repositories list?
[07:51] <cobelloy> totally dude!
[07:51] <signbarn> odat: it's neat, but until it makes testable predictions, it's just 20/20 hindsight
[07:51] <burstnet> but the places and system menus work fine
[07:51] <xhale> anyone free? a noob (me) needs some help with a fresh install.
[07:51] <coz> burstnet oh boy thi sis where I usually reboot and if that doesn't work reinstall
[07:51] <cobelloy> xhale - I am free
[07:51] <starscalling> i go to azureus.sourceforge.com and i have mozilla installed. when i click on the links that are *.php like download.php it crashes.... any clue why that might be??
[07:51] <xhale> pm?
[07:51] <shadowplay> odat: if it makes their prices come down, it'll help.  Otoh, they've spent their whole history claiming that their hardware is better, and if they go to intel, it hurts their credibility
[07:51] <odat> signbarn, yea but pretty cool none the less
[07:51] <cobelloy> maybe I can help
[07:51] <burstnet> coz crap afraid somebody was gonna say that... rebooted already that didn't fix problem
[07:51] <lilo> there'll be a small server restart in a few moments; affected users, about 1,300
[07:51] <coz> Ok what did you last install?
[07:51] <starscalling> nothing shows up when i run from a terminal
[07:51] <signbarn> odat: i'd like to see them do the same thing with Crime and Punishment :-)
[07:51] <coz> burstnet last installation?
[07:52] <burstnet> coz uhh... don't remember  nothing really
[07:52] <cobelloy> oh right - yeah if you like
[07:52] <burstnet> maybe gaim-encryption  but that was it
[07:52] <odat> Shadowplay  most of their claim was that they made the whole widget that the left hand knows what the right hand is doing hence a better pc   i think they could do both
[07:52] <burstnet> oh wait
[07:52] <burstnet> it started happening when i installed kde
[07:52] <coz> Ok best route to figure things out is to backtrack metally to just before the problem
[07:52] <duuude> noob question:  how do you open an RPM?  i have a fresh hoary install, can't figure it out
[07:52] <odat> signbarn, lol
[07:52] <cobelloy> duuude alien
[07:52] <rabeldable> i keep getting this in my hdparm output: HDIO_GETGEO failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[07:52] <shadowplay> duuude: instal the alien package
[07:52] <coz> apt-get install alien
[07:53] <cobelloy> look up how to use alien in google - it is easy
[07:53] <cobelloy> but cant remember off top of head
[07:53] <coz> alien package name
[07:53] <cobelloy> xhale did u want help?
[07:53] <shadowplay> fakeroot alien <dir with rpms>|rpmfile
[07:53] <cobelloy> coz - don't u specify an output name too ?
[07:53] <starscalling> any clue anyone?
[07:53] <signbarn> is there any way I can make changes that i make to /dev (creating symlinks and changing permissions) permanent? when i restart my computer, everything just reverts to the way it was.
[07:53] <xhale> I pm'd you cobelloy
[07:54] <coz> burstnet get rid of KDE
[07:54] <cobelloy> oh - sorry, I didn't get it - hang on
[07:54] <coz> cobelloy I don't thnk so
[07:54] <coz> put it into your home folder and alien it from there
[07:54] <shadowplay> cobelloy: no, the rpms get turned into debs.
[07:54] <coz> it should put it right in the home folder or do it on the desktop
[07:54] <batman> hey does anyone know why after i installed a new dvd drive why ubuntu won't boot up? all of my hard drives etc.. do have power
[07:54] <cobelloy> xhale I have pm'd you now
[07:55] <shadowplay> cobelloy: (meaning aliean uses it's own filenames for the debs)
[07:55] <cobelloy> I think...
[07:55] <coz> burstnet did  you install KDE after installing the gnome ubuntu?
[07:55] <cobelloy> yeah, I think last time I used it I specified an output directory different to the input dir, I think...
[07:55] <shadowplay> batman: you have the jumpers set properly for master/slaves?
[07:55] <xhale> I didnt get anything cobel
[07:56] <batman> shadowplay, yes i have both the disc drives set to cs
[07:56] <cobelloy> xhale why don't you post your issue in the main window instead?
[07:56] <coz> cobelloy not necessary it will put the file where the original is aliened from
[07:56] <peej> batman,: at what point in boot up is it failing?
[07:56] <batman> peej, module loading
[07:56] <xhale> syre
[07:56] <xhale> sure
[07:56] <cobelloy> ooooooh
[07:56] <xhale> [22:52:04]  <xhale> I dont know exactly what I did wrong
[07:56] <xhale> [22:52:20]  <xhale> but I make it all the way to the log in screen
[07:56] <xhale> [22:52:47]  <xhale> put my user/pass in and then it plays the login sound but the background is all pixelated and the gui never loads
[07:56] <peej> batman: what's the last module you see loading?
[07:56] <sethk> batman, if you have sata, adding the dvd can change the /dev names for drives
[07:56] <coz> Ok I am now officially lost in the conversation
[07:56] <GURT> is it safe to uninstall kernels that i don't use? and in doing that will it remove allt he entries in GRUB?
[07:56] <cobelloy> mmm think Ive had a similar prob, let me think...
[07:57] <batman> peej, it just says loading modules and doesn't load any
[07:57] <signbarn> xhale, what caused that?
[07:57] <odat> so does anyone see this SCO thing as a threat?
[07:57] <batman> sethk, it isn't sata its ata
[07:57] <sethk> GURT, safer to just erase them
[07:57] <xhale> nothing, fresh install
[07:57] <coz> GURT if it isn't broken leave it alone
[07:57] <sudharsh_> GURT yup jus dont remov the default kernel
[07:57] <coz> I know that sounds like I amj joking but I am not
[07:57] <cobelloy> it is probably a video issue - do you get back to the cmd line
[07:57] <shadowplay> odat: gawd, i spent hours reading about that this weekend
[07:57] <GURT> i dont think i have a default one
[07:57] <sethk> batman, two possibilities.  Either the /dev names changed or the dvd thing is screwing up dma
[07:57] <odat> shadowplay, and?
[07:57] <coz> GURT what you can do is sudo apt-get autoclean
[07:58] <sethk> GURT, the first one is the default if you don't explicitly specify default
[07:58] <cobelloy> you can edit your x11 config from there using vi editor - it is quite easy, believe it or not
[07:58] <signbarn> xhale, do you have an nvidia or ati video card?
[07:58] <batman> sethk, what do you suggest me doing?
[07:58] <xhale> actually if I click on the session button then the screen goes pixelated too and it seems to freeze up
[07:58] <xhale> nvidia 7800GT
[07:58] <peej> batman: dunno, but I'd go with sethk on this.
[07:58] <odat> xhale, did you install glx?
[07:58] <coz> xhale what is the problem again i got lost
[07:58] <sethk> batman, boot the install cd in rescue mode and look at the /dev names, to start
[07:58] <allison_1984> peej....
[07:58] <shadowplay> odat: Morgan Stanley did a survey showing that many cio's have experienced sales 'pressure' to not use linux.  The good news is they didn't let it affect their decisions
[07:59] <sethk> batman, you can try turning off DMA in the bios for all the drives.  You won't want to do that permanently, but it is a good test
[07:59] <peej> batman: fdisk -l is useful for that
[07:59] <GURT> coz: ok, i got it
[07:59] <cobelloy> can anyone remember how to launch the vi tutorial from cmd line?
[07:59] <coz> OK good
[07:59] <xhale> I went through a fresh install, 64-bit from the cd they shipped me
[07:59] <cobelloy> sorry dude gotta go for a bit
[07:59] <cobelloy> brb
[07:59] <odat> shadowplay, yea but you think SCO's claim holds and water?
[07:59] <batman> sethk, also is there a way i can set my sound card back to the defaults?
[07:59] <shadowplay> odat: but as for the cases themselves, who knows, but I think SCO's full of it
[07:59] <signbarn> xhale, you just need to install the nvidia-glx
[07:59] <peej> batman: the -l option just lists the drives it sees and how they're labled. useful.
[07:59] <xhale> I made it all the way through the install, then got to the login screen, put in my L/P and the background goes pixelated
[07:59] <coz> xhale there is not a bunch of things for the 64 bit ubuntu drivers, flash, etc
[07:59] <xhale> and wont respond
[08:00] <signbarn> t xhale, ctrl+alt+f1 into the terminal
[08:00] <sethk> batman, you mean the software configuration for your sound card?  I'm not sure how to do that.   It can be done
[08:00] <GURT> what do i do with autoclean? anything?
[08:00] <coz> I amy be wrong but my nephew is upstairs installing 64 butubntu now I will let you know
[08:00] <coz> not bubuntu just ubuntu
[08:00] <xhale> how do I install the drivers? are there 64 bit drivers for linux?
[08:00] <odat> shadowplay, well the fact that they used to support linux and sell linux based systems is kind of a shot in the foot
[08:00] <peej> batman: you mean the volume levels for the various bits?
[08:00] <xhale> I'm very new to this
[08:00] <coz> xhale there may not be
[08:00] <batman> peej, yes like the settings for volume etc..
[08:00] <ice_1963> well yes
[08:00] <coz> that is one of the many things wrong with it right now
[08:01] <signbarn> hmm... i'm not familiar with ubuntu 64
[08:01] <shadowplay> odat: One problem being that during the berkley/ATT decision, the judge found that AT&T had improperly incorporated outside code (I think even berkley code).
[08:01] <coz> but do not take my word for that
[08:01] <signbarn> t xhale it's worth a try
[08:01] <xhale> should I instead install the 32 bit version cd I got?
[08:01] <coz> yes you can always go windows 64 bit if all else fails
[08:01] <signbarn> woops. too much MUDding
[08:01] <errol> hello
[08:01] <sethk> xhale, I would do the 32 bit, get comfortable, then move to 64
[08:01] <xhale> doesnt matter to me either way, I thought since I have a 64bit cpu I would try the 64 bit ubuntu
[08:01] <coz> errol hello
[08:01] <errol> i am new to Ubuntu
[08:01] <errol> my first hour
[08:01] <errol> :)
[08:01] <peej> batman: man aumix tells you stuff that way - I use it to set a default volume I am happy with during the last stages of boot. Otherwise, if you are using alsa, I think it saves and restores stuff automagically.
[08:01] <coz> xhale try it dude nothing to lose
[08:02] <shadowplay> odat: so the UNIX sources themselves have copyright probs.
[08:02] <odat> Shadowplay  so they might have a case?
[08:02] <peej> errol: cool. Are you logged in using it?
[08:02] <errol> yes
[08:02] <coz> errol welcome to ubuntu
[08:02] <errol> i am using x chat
[08:02] <xhale> alright, I'm rebooting now
[08:02] <errol> thank you coz
[08:02] <coz> errol so am I
[08:02] <errol> this is different
[08:02] <coz> errol do you like it so far???
[08:02] <batman> peej, thanks ill mess with the dvd drive for now brb in like 10 mins
[08:02] <errol> i can get my wireless card to work
[08:02] <GURT> sethk: how do i set one to be my default?
[08:03] <coz> errol you can or you can't
[08:03] <errol> WG311v3
[08:03] <errol> i cant
[08:03] <errol> i am using LAN
[08:03] <errol> i tried NDISWRAPPER
[08:03] <sethk> GURT, in the grub config?   a line like this:        default 0
[08:03] <odat> errol, again welcome to ubuntu lol
[08:03] <signbarn> lol
[08:03] <coz> ah well join the crowd I am not an expert in networking perios
[08:03] <errol> lol
[08:03] <sethk> GURT, that's the first in the file.  default 1 for the second, etc.
[08:03] <GURT> ok
[08:03] <odat> shadowplay, ?
[08:03] <coz> stay onlan errol it is faster anyway
[08:03] <JoeBlow> hey guys
[08:03] <shadowplay> odat: no the oposite... it undermines SCO's claim that linux stole from UNIX, because there's legal precedent that UNIX's copyrights aren't watertight
[08:03] <xhale> I hope this works, the live cd boots up fine and I like it a lot
[08:03] <rabeldable> anyone ever play americas army?
[08:04] <coz> JoeBlow welcome
[08:04] <coz> rabeldable no t I guy
[08:04] <JoeBlow> rabeldable, I used to play it
[08:04] <coz> anyone here into animation?
[08:04] <sethk> coz, no, I'm organic
[08:04] <coz> sethk cute!
[08:05] <rabeldable> i'm burnng an image currently at 32%...
[08:05] <JoeBlow> rabeldable, why r u trying to get it to run on linux?
[08:05] <shadowplay> odat: AFAIK, they've dropped the 'trade secret' part of the suit, and they're suing IBM over IBM's continued use of AIX, when SCO suposedly revoked their licence.  Only SCO probably didn't have the right to revoke the licence.
[08:05] <rabeldable> i was thinking about putting it on ubuntu
[08:05] <errol> does anyone know if i will be able to play games on Ubuntu?
[08:05] <errol> Like Windoze
[08:05] <coz> errol yes some games like what did you have in mind?
[08:05] <sudharsh_> errol: cedega
[08:05] <sudharsh_> its not free though
[08:05] <errol> i have counter strike
[08:05] <errol> will it work
[08:05] <xhale> when I am doing the partitions manually, what do I set the "bootable flag" to?
[08:05] <errol> cedega
[08:05] <rabeldable> I had it running just fine with version 2.3 on redhat but now I got this ubuntu laptop... just thinking when I get bored it would be nice to get on and kill some noobs... :)
[08:05] <errol> point to play?!
[08:06] <polpak> errol: yes
[08:06] <sudharsh_> purfect will work.....
[08:06] <coz> ooo I can't answer that one I am ot really a gamer
[08:06] <signbarn> Cedega works pretty well, yeah
[08:06] <JoeBlow> rabeldable, Ive been trying to get quake 2 to work on ubuntu, it does really funny things with it
[08:06] <errol> lol
[08:06] <odat> Shadowplay, i read that they never got the full rights from suse and novell
[08:06] <sudharsh_> yeah
[08:06] <ice_1963> well i like bzflag for a game
[08:06] <polpak> rabeldable: I don't think you need an ISO
[08:06] <errol> ok guys i will leave you
[08:06] <rabeldable> yeah the last thing I want to do is break my box
[08:06] <coz> errol nooo stay
[08:06] <errol> i want to check out the different channels
[08:06] <polpak> rabeldable: I just installed to the fs
[08:06] <errol> sorry coz
[08:06] <xhale> when I am doing the partitions manually, what do I set the "bootable flag" to?
[08:06] <coz> well Ok go then
[08:06] <errol> i will be back!
[08:07] <coz> guys the extent of my gaming is njam
[08:07] <Kr0ntab> anyone have quicktime content playing with xine (background info:  I already have all plugins working great with firefox... but am trying kubuntu/konqueror.... and apparently mplayer-plugin doesn't work with konq.)
[08:07] <polpak> xhale: you don't need to set anything bootable. Grub will handle it
[08:07] <rabeldable> polpak: I want to make an ISO first just to be cleaner... I have one cd drive
[08:07] <xhale> k
[08:07] <coz> except on windows
[08:07] <xhale> thx
[08:07] <sudharsh_> guyz when i do apt-get update....soem repos gets 'Hit' what does that mean
[08:07] <coz> the Myst series are my favorite and doom III
[08:07] <shadowplay> odat: bottom line i think is that SCO is taking on IBM, of all companies, *and* Novell.  IBM isn't exactly naive when it comes to legal matters!
[08:07] <rabeldable> i'm dong two things at once... 1) thinking about americas army install and 2) trying to burn a dvd
[08:08] <coz> rabeldable right and left brain actibity
[08:08] <coz> activity
[08:08] <JoeBlow> is their a prog like kazaa for linux, so i can download LEGAL files p2p
[08:08] <shadowplay> odat: yeah, exactly, that's the SCO vs Novell suit, which ironically is scheduled for after the sco v IBM (both in 2007)
[08:08] <coz> amule
[08:08] <sudharsh_> frostwire
[08:08] <sethk> Shadowline, the whole sco thing is a joke, and as you said ibm has the resources to call their bluff
[08:08] <coz> JoeBlow amule
[08:08] <signbarn> does SCO make money legitimately?
[08:08] <rabeldable> SCO is just trying to prolong death at this point
[08:09] <starscalling> eh new problem ;)
[08:09] <coz> starscalling what is it
[08:09] <rabeldable> well prolong the process anyways
[08:09] <starscalling> trying to make my fat32 drive rw for all users [though there is only one atm] 
[08:09] <odat> shadowplay, well if it would by some dumbass chance be a hit to linux do they not know that freebsd is out there lol
[08:09] <starscalling> i cant seem to umount the device... says its busy
[08:09] <starscalling> how can i do so so i can test the new settings w/o rebooting
[08:09] <coz> did you rebott and try again?
[08:09] <coz> reboot
[08:09] <JoeBlow> coz, ill try it out
[08:10] <JoeBlow> starscalling, close /etc/fstab and try
[08:10] <sethk> starscalling, man mount, look for vfat mount options uid= and gid=
[08:10] <coz> download it now JoeBlow if you have trouble conecting let me knw
[08:10] <starscalling> sethk, those dont seem to work to well and JoeBlow its closed
[08:10] <batman> ok does anyone here know how to set a sound card back to the default settings?
[08:11] <sethk> starscalling, they do work, so I think the people who said you didn't really remount are correct.
[08:11] <odat> it is just impossible to kill open source at this point
[08:11] <coz> default settings as in volume etc
[08:11] <odat> will never happen
[08:11] <JoeBlow> coz, so far its working
[08:11] <coz> great did you get all the servers to download
[08:11] <sethk> starscalling, if it is busy and won't umount you have to kill whatever has a file open in it.
[08:11] <batman> coz, yes default volume etc..
[08:11] <starscalling> oic
[08:11] <starscalling> crap
[08:11] <coz> terminal  type alsa
[08:11] <JoeBlow> starscalling, all i do is type , sudo nano /etc/fstab, then find the defaults part of the vfat partition, and change it to umask=000, works for me daily
[08:11] <starscalling> yeah gonna try that then
[08:11] <starscalling> thanx
[08:12] <starscalling> probably xchat keeping it open
[08:12] <coz> batman did you get the miser open
[08:12] <coz> mixer
[08:12] <batman> yes
[08:12] <JoeBlow> coz, yea i got it working
[08:12] <coz> is that what you wanted???
[08:12] <coz> JoeBlow great it a good thing
[08:12] <batman> coz, i want all the settings to default
[08:12] <JoeBlow> starscalling, x chat should be on your root system,and so you shouldnt have to close it
[08:12] <JoeBlow> coz, yea thanks for the help
[08:13] <JoeBlow> coz, time to go to work....
[08:13] <JoeBlow> time to go to work........
[08:13] <coz> joeBlow no prolbme
[08:13] <shadowplay> odat: It's more a question of making open-source licences stronger and more legally defined.
[08:13] <JoeBlow> :(
[08:13] <coz> batman you will have to adjust thoses to your liking
[08:13] <coz> batman what is happneing that you need to do this?
[08:13] <odat> shadowplay, odat nods
[08:13] <coz> JoeBlow it is money :)
[08:13] <shadowplay> odat: it's not going to hurt, it'll probably help.  Some ppl think sco just wants to get bought out.  It's the only thing that makes sense.
[08:14] <sudharsh_> isnt gpl fine as it is
[08:14] <batman> coz, i adjusted them to max on everything and its not playing through the sound card now i'm using a soundblaster 5.1 pci
[08:14] <JoeBlow> coz, yea, and it all goes to my wife
[08:14] <coz> batman I use the same card put everythnig back to middle values first
[08:14] <JoeBlow> coz, ALL OF IT
[08:14] <coz> Yes I will send you a picture of my alsa if you want
[08:14] <coz> several pics
[08:15] <JoeBlow> coz, I got take off tho, later bro
[08:15] <coz> batman hold on
[08:15] <kemikals> Hi
[08:15] <coz> ok dude
[08:15] <odat> netsplit?
[08:15] <batman> coz, so on yours it says alsa sb live [unknown] 
[08:15] <coz> yes it does
[08:15] <coz> it works fine though
[08:15] <coz>  let me make a few pics of the alsa mixer and send it to you
[08:15] <coz> hold on
[08:16] <shadowplay> sudharsh_: sco claims it's unconstitutional and unenforcable (because FSF has sole authority to enforce it, while say IBM, can't enforce it even though they use it).  It's an argument, probably not a good one, but an argument that GPL is going to have to refute.
[08:16] <shadowplay> sudharsh_: it == gpl
[08:16] <kemikals> if I use the default installation for a desktop, does it use /etc/X11/xorg.conf for the xorg default config file?
[08:16] <GURT> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6875 would i set default=4 if i want to use Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-686 as my default?
[08:16] <Myrtti> yes
[08:16] <sudharsh_> hows that gonna affect the curren tscheme o things anyway
[08:17] <sudharsh_> i mean the end users in general
[08:17] !lilo:*! in the middle of preparations, we had one of our hubbing problems in Australia.... affected users, about 320
[08:17] <odat> i would imagine the IBM linux alliance would then just buy SCO and be done with it
[08:18] !lilo:*! those users are now back....meanwhile, the scheduled server restart has been performed, and we're about 500 users short....they're slowly trickling back
[08:18] <sudharsh_> k me off
[08:19] <starscalling> eh forgot about rox
[08:19] <shadowplay> odat: you'd think.  sco aquired unix from old-sco for under 100mil.  MSFT and Sun have paid more than that to sco in licencing fees!
[08:19] <shadowplay> odat: i mean well under 100mil.  60's or 40's iirc.
[08:20] <odat> shadowplay, then they are really afraid of death after sun playing around with linux now
[08:21] <coz> batmn hold on almost there
[08:22] <duuude> has anyone else had trouble with the JPEG library?  i try to instal SDL_image but it can't find the jpeg library
[08:22] <rabeldable> i think its halarious that SCO got so many people to give them money... even lately.  They must have some real god sales people... :)
[08:22] !lilo:*! looks as if we're just about back up to speed.... thanks everyone
[08:22] <CaptainMorgan> where do I begin ?
[08:22] <batman> coz, it works but it sounds all distorted from the settings i have it set to
[08:22] <starscalling> hum
[08:22] <coz> batman I can send one pic at a time there are seven do you still want these?
[08:23] <starscalling> curiouser and curiouser
[08:23] <batman> sure
[08:23] <chugga> any lispers here?
[08:23] <coz> ok hold on
[08:23] <batman> coz, i have cable connection so no problem :P
[08:23] <batman> coz, why don't you just compress them in a gzip?
[08:24] <coz> batman alrady started
[08:24] <CaptainMorgan> simply running vmplayer returns bin errors...
[08:24] <coz> batman 	http://rapidshare.de/files/10762907/one.jpg.html
[08:24] <shadowplay> odat: http://www.catb.org/~esr/halloween/halloween9.html
[08:25] <coz> http://rapidshare.de/files/10762939/two.jpg.html
[08:25] <coz> 	http://rapidshare.de/files/10762949/three.jpg.html
[08:25] <chugga> where can i see a list of packages for ubuntu?
[08:25] <coz> 	http://rapidshare.de/files/10762950/four.jpg.html
[08:25] <CaptainMorgan> why do I need the browser-appliance.zip ?
[08:26] <coz> 	http://rapidshare.de/files/10762966/five.jpg.html
[08:26] <coz> http://rapidshare.de/files/10762971/six.jpg.html
[08:26] <signbarn> how do i go about scripting admin tasks? like changing permissions and making symlinks in the /dev directory
[08:26] <coz> 	http://rapidshare.de/files/10762980/seven.jpg.html
[08:26] <shadowplay> odat: eric raymond & co. have at the complaint that sco filed.  It's long and tedious (and funny), but the most interesting part is the appendix where they talk about how Intel's screw up with Itanium is what preciptated Caldera's slide to becoming sco
[08:26] <Zen> 2, no 6, no 12; baker's dozen
[08:26] <coz> batman next time I will compress
[08:27] <ubuntu> hello, i fubared my perfectly stable 5.10 installed with a dapper upgrade attempt. now i'm on a live dvd trying to access my previous home folder so i can recover my dcouments and do a clean reinstall, but it wont let me mount that partiona as file system 'linux' what am i supposed to use instead?
[08:27] <starscalling> arg
[08:27] <starscalling> where did they put azureus packages now
[08:27] <signbarn> cupcakes?
[08:27] <ubuntu> star: i THINK its in multiverse
[08:27] <shadowplay> ubuntu: it's either ext3 or reiserfs
[08:27] <ubuntu> thansk shadow
[08:27] <batman> coz, umm does it matter about the emuk10k1 pcm send routing settings?
[08:27] <starscalling> i dont see it there lol
[08:27] <shadowplay> ubuntu: mount -t ext3 /dev/hdx /mount
[08:28] <coz> batman what I have there is what works for me I make small adjustmets every now and then
[08:28] <CaptainMorgan> I downloaded th player and attempted the run the file 'vmplayer' and nada happened...
[08:28] <coz> but basically that is it
[08:28] <coz> batman you can also go to synaptic and download the alsamixer-gui
[08:28] <starscalling> yeah its not in multiverse
[08:28] <coz> it is many times more readable and there is also gnomealsa mixer as well
[08:28] <starscalling> or in backports
[08:29] <starscalling> !_!
[08:29] <ubotu> starscalling: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:29] <coz> but that one is a bit awkward
[08:29] <batman> coz, thats what i'm using
[08:29] <signbarn> anyone have some insight? this is burning my brain. i need to automate the task of making symlinks and chaning permissions in the /dev directory, but each time i restart, none of my changes stick.
[08:29] <coz> oh good
[08:29] <CaptainMorgan> !vmplayer
[08:29] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, CaptainMorgan
[08:29] <CaptainMorgan> !emulate
[08:29] <ubotu> CaptainMorgan: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:29] <coz> me too i should have picked tat
[08:29] <coz> that
[08:30] <liable> signbarn: why are you doing that in the first place?
[08:30] <CaptainMorgan> !emulator
[08:30] <ubotu> CaptainMorgan: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:30] <CaptainMorgan> !virtual
[08:30] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, CaptainMorgan
[08:30] <signbarn> i'm having trouble with lirc for my mythtv box
[08:30] <cafuego> CaptainMorgan: You need to install & configure vmware player first.
[08:30] <CaptainMorgan> installed it.. but how do I configure it ?
[08:30] <signbarn> i have to link /dev/lirc0 to /dev/lirc and change the permissions of /dev/lircd so that i don't have to be an admin to run it
[08:30] <cafuego> Spamming the bot with random commands isn't going to help.
[08:30] <CaptainMorgan> Ive tried running it and nothing happens
[08:30] <coz> anyone here insto animation
[08:30] <coz> into
[08:31] <cafuego> CaptainMorgan: Did you read the documentation that came with the download?
[08:31] <cafuego> CaptainMorgan: ... did you also download a vm definition?
[08:31] <CaptainMorgan> you call it spamming, I call it searching for legitimate info
[08:31] <CaptainMorgan> vm definition?
[08:32] <cafuego> CaptainMorgan: You need to have a fully configured vm otherwise the player is useless.
[08:32] <nyktovus> i just installed ubuntu server
[08:32] <GURT> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6875 if i want to use Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-686 as my default would i set default=4 ?
[08:32] <nyktovus> how can i look at what packages are already installed
[08:32] <rabeldable> anyone know where to listen to satelite radio on the web? like a stream?
[08:32] <nyktovus> in synaptic you can see whats installed and what the next available upgrade is.. can you do this from command line?
[08:32] <cafuego> GURT: Is it number 5 in the listing?
[08:32] <ubuntu> is there any hack to setting my mounted drives to be shared on the network from a LIVE DVD ? going to plain share everything is REDed ou, presumable because i'm on live dvd?
[08:33] <signbarn> is there any startup script that i can edit that runs with admin/superuser privelidges?
[08:33] <crimsun> nyktovus: apt-cache policy
[08:33] <lillpelle> nyktovus: dpkg -l | grep ^ii may work
[08:33] <nyktovus> apt-cache policy?
[08:33] <GURT> i think so, but i'm not sure
[08:33] <CaptainMorgan> cafuego, ther is no docs that came with it... config files? - then yes, but I can't make sense of them.. there's no directions..
[08:33] <nyktovus> when i do a dpkg -l it makes a huge list that scrolls off the screen.. how can i view this one page at a time?
[08:34] <cafuego> nyktovus: dpkg -l | grep ^ii | less
[08:34] <lillpelle> nyktovus: pipe it with less
[08:34] <GURT> its the 5th one on the page, but 2 or three look different
[08:34] <nyktovus> tight
[08:34] <nyktovus> thanx
[08:34] <nyktovus> whats grep ^ii do?
[08:35] <odat> shadowplay  then its over we win lol
[08:35] <cafuego> GURT: Looks to be the fourth definition, so it would be 'default=3' (Linux start counting with 0)
[08:35] <lillpelle> it grabs all lines that start with "ii"
[08:35] <lillpelle> nyktovus: try man grep and you will find out some more about regexps
[08:35] <nyktovus> kool
[08:35] <nyktovus> thanx
[08:35] <nyktovus> i'm building a cheap NAS box. heheh
[08:35] <nyktovus> so i wanna put samba, netatalk, proftpd and httpd on it
[08:36] <GURT> cafuego: thanks
[08:36] <wckdkl0wn> can someone tell me how to burn an iso to a dvd ?
[08:36] <cafuego> wckdkl0wn: right click it, select 'Burn ...'
[08:36] <starscalling> wckdkl0wn, how nice do you want the experience to be
[08:36] <batman> coz, do you happen do know anything about codecs for dvd players?
[08:37] <starscalling> personally i prefer k3b for that particular task
[08:37] <CaptainMorgan> what is there to configure with vmware??? it's said to be 'pre-built' and I can't find diddly squat concerning 'readme', 'install' or 'configure' files.. this thing is junk
[08:37] <jack|ass> !ipmasq
[08:37] <ubotu> jack|ass: I don't know
[08:37] <jack|ass> aww
[08:37] <nyktovus> does ubuntu server have any of those preinstalled?
[08:37] <jack|ass> so i'm trying to set up masquerading
[08:37] <wckdkl0wn> so just right click it and burn and thats it?
[08:37] <jack|ass> do i need to have two physical adapters?
[08:37] <nyktovus> does ubuntu server have samba?
[08:37] <jack|ass> or can i use a single with a virtual?
[08:37] <cafuego> CaptainMorgan: vmware player does just that, it "plays" virtual machines. You cannot create any new ones. So you'll also need a pre-built virtual machine.
[08:38] <cafuego> nyktovus: If you did a server install, you have just the base. No services.
[08:38] <nyktovus> crap
[08:38] <nyktovus> whats samba called?
[08:38] <nyktovus> the pacakge..
[08:38] <cafuego> nyktovus: 'sudo apt-get install samba'
[08:38] <wckdkl0wn> hrmm this is weird i downloaded an iso of a linux distro and it got to 100% and now its going backwards its at -97% and going down
[08:39] <slyslick> anyone in here know how to solve this problem. I'm using breezy badger live cd and everytime i boot i have to setup my wireless card but if i leave the pc for 5 minutes and the screensaver comes on, the wireless connection drops and i have to reboot which takes a very long
[08:39] <wckdkl0wn> now it says its done and i right click on it on the desktop and go to properties and the file dissapeared
[08:39] <slyslick> im using a netgear wg311
[08:39] <slyslick> v2
[08:39] <wckdkl0wn> wtf is up with that
[08:40] <Zen> you know, it's kinda funny to think that this OS would be compatible with a 386
[08:40] <Zen> it would take like a week to boot, but it would run
[08:43] <batman> does anyone here know about configuring codecs for a dvd player
[08:43] <Zen> you need the css library I think it is called
[08:43] <sudharsh> libdvdcss to be exact
[08:43] <wckdkl0wn> now hopefully it is extracting the iso to the dvd and not putting the iso on the dvd lol
[08:44] <wckdkl0wn> i miss nero
[08:44] <sudharsh> thers nero for linux
[08:44] <Zen> nero makes a linux version
[08:44] <Myrtti> then use it
[08:44] <wckdkl0wn> really?
[08:44] <wckdkl0wn> lol
[08:44] <Myrtti> yes
[08:44] <narles> anyone who has ourtunes... have you found that it runs very choppy on linux??
[08:44] <Zen> Indeed, sir
[08:44] <sudharsh> if u hav a valid Windows ver u need not buy it again
[08:44] <limguohong91> I have install WINE, but may I know where is that program located?
[08:44] <narles> how do i fix ourtunes so that it runs smooth..?
[08:45] <narles> i'm opening it with java -jar
[08:45] <sudharsh> limguohong look in usr/bin
[08:45] <limguohong91> Alright :)
[08:46] <wckdkl0wn> rpm or deb  nero install?
[08:46] <sudharsh> both mate
[08:46] <Myrtti> I'd say deb for Ubuntu
[08:46] <CaptainMorgan> "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your runningkernel? "
[08:46] <CaptainMorgan> I haven't a clue...
[08:47] <CaptainMorgan> it offered /usr/src/linux/include but it won't accept it..
[08:47] <wckdkl0wn> ok now how do i install nero?
[08:47] <sudharsh> i dunno maybe check /include
[08:47] <liable> CaptainMorgan: /usr/src/kernel-headers
[08:47] <sudharsh> u hav to go to the official site and download em
[08:47] <liable> CaptainMorgan: you need to install them..
[08:48] <wckdkl0wn> i downloaded it
[08:48] <AMCDeathKnight> How do I get Ubuntu to remember my command history even when I have closed the terminal
[08:48] <sudharsh> whats the fromat deb or rpm
[08:48] <wckdkl0wn> deb
[08:48] <batman> does anyone here know about configuring codecs for a dvd player
[08:48] <Myrtti> batman: yeah, install vlc and use it
[08:48] <sudharsh> sudo dpkg -i <name of the pck>
[08:49] <liable> batman: you dont need to "configure" them, just install em
[08:49] <wckdkl0wn> its on the desktop does that matter?
[08:49] <sudharsh> it doesnt
[08:49] <wckdkl0wn> k
[08:49] <liable> CaptainMorgan: once installed, you might not even have to supply a dir.
[08:49] <jack|ass> anyone have IPMASQ expertise?
[08:50] <kestasworkacc> can you export a table from OO.o base into excel? I'm making a software inventory at work but I'll need to export it into MS products eventually
[08:50] <AMCDeathKnight> How do I remove cedega?
[08:50] <kestasworkacc> though I don't have a copy of access handy
[08:50] <kestasworkacc> AMCDeathKnight: depends how you added it
[08:50] <sudharsh> sudo dpkg -r cedega
[08:50] <limguohong91> After I install Wine, may I know how do I even start it?
[08:50] <AMCDeathKnight> Manuelly
[08:50] <wckdkl0wn> says error while processing nerolinux
[08:50] <AMCDeathKnight> from a tar fike
[08:51] <AMCDeathKnight> *file
[08:51] <sudharsh> what errors does it give
[08:51] <AMCDeathKnight> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove cedega which isn't installed.
[08:51] <wckdkl0wn> can i pm u
[08:51] <liable> jack|ass: what are you wanting to do?
[08:51] <wckdkl0wn> i will post the eror there
[08:51] <sudharsh> alrito
[08:51] <batman> laible, where can i find codecs?
[08:52] <liable> !w32codecs
[08:52] <ubotu> somebody said w32codecs was a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[08:52] <UncleD> sudharsh: how can i fix this: invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/mysql not found.
[08:52] <jawshoewah> where are ttf fonts located?
[08:52] <jack|ass> liable: i've got a lan with a couple workstations and a dsl line.  I want to use the linux machine to give out private IP addresses that get NAT'd through the linux machine which has a public ip address.
[08:52] <kestasworkacc> can you copy a database in OO.o into a MSSQL database maybe?
[08:52] <kestasworkacc> anyone got any ideas?
[08:53] <kestasworkacc> getting a table or 5 from OO.o to an MS product?
[08:53] <jack|ass> liable:  i'm not really sure how to set up the NAT though.  IPMASQ didn't really like any of my attempts at telling it to route packets. :)
[08:53] <liable> jack|ass: http://www.shorewall.net/two-interface.htm
[08:53] <crimsun> UncleD: you need to install mysql-server
[08:53] <liable> jack|ass: have a read of that, its a nice easily configurabe NAT/firewall package
[08:53] <jack|ass> liable: does IPMASQ require two physical?  or can i use one real aliased to a virtual?
[08:53] <sudharsh> yes.....
[08:54] <jawshoewah> where are ttf fonts located?
[08:54] <liable> jack|ass: i think you need two ifaces.
[08:54] <UncleD> crimsun: how can I reinstall it properly? I tried apt-get remove and apt-get install, and it gives me the same error.
[08:54] <jack|ass> liable: dammit, wish i'd known that before i'd dropped off the computer. :)
[08:54] <kestasworkacc> .. because I have a sneaking suspicion MS Access won't import OpenDatabase files
[08:54] <liable> jack|ass: easy to put another in :)
[08:54] <jack|ass> liable: although why wouldn't you be able to use a real and a virtual?
[08:55] <crimsun> jawshoewah: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/, /var/lib/defoma/fontconfig.d/, /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/, [..] 
[08:55] <CaptainMorgan> !headers
[08:55] <ubotu> CaptainMorgan: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:55] <jack|ass> liable: yeah, but it's a 30 minute drive over a nasty stretch of highway. :)
[08:55] <sudharsh> UncleD did u use synaptic to install synaptic
[08:55] <CaptainMorgan> !kernel-headers
[08:55] <ubotu> CaptainMorgan: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:55] <liable> jack|ass: i have never tried it, so i am not positive.
[08:55] <sudharsh> *mysql
[08:55] <kestasworkacc> and Base doesn't seem to export even to excel files, or even comma seperated value files for christs sake
[08:55] <jawshoewah> crimsun you are so very helpful always your nice ;)
[08:55] <kestasworkacc> are they /trying/ to minimise their market share?
[08:55] <batman> anyone know of a good program i can download music?
[08:56] <sudharsh> batman: like p2p?
[08:56] <batman> sudharsh, yes other than amule
[08:56] <liable> CaptainMorgan: apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)
[08:57] <crimsun> s/kernel-headers/linux-headers/
[08:57] <sudharsh> frostwire
[08:57] <allison_1984> batman: nicotine
[08:57] <CaptainMorgan> thanks liable  , but E: Couldn't find package kernel-headers-2.6.12-10-386
[08:58] <CaptainMorgan> repo's ?
[08:58] <liable> CaptainMorgan: see crimsun 's comment
[08:58] <CaptainMorgan> where ?
[08:58] <liable> errr, 7 lines up?
[08:59] <CaptainMorgan> uhm.. what do I do with s/kernel-headers/linux-headers/
[08:59] <Pygi> repos? :P
[08:59] <Pygi> install it, well :P
[08:59] <liable> CaptainMorgan: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:01] <Pygi> liable: just use synaptic
[09:01] <jawshoewah> mplayer gives an error New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supplky the font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf)
[09:02] <jawshoewah> ?
[09:02] <Zen> so, when is the next kernel image due?
[09:02] <sudharsh> jawshoewah: rename the .mplayer folder <dont del it> and try again
[09:02] <liable> Pygi: you tell him to fix it your way, and i'll tell him mine :P
[09:02] <Zen> seems we've been on 1.6.12-10 forever :)
[09:02] <sudharsh> check out kernel.org
[09:02] <jawshoewah> should I just search for it
[09:03] <jawshoewah> kernel.org?
[09:03] <sudharsh> Zen..check out kernel.org latest is 2..6.15
[09:03] <jawshoewah> oh
[09:03] <Pygi> liable: well, apt get is surely better but don't you think that he should use synaptic when he doesn't know apt-get :P
[09:03] <sudharsh> thats the home page for the linux kernel
[09:04] <jawshoewah> search doesnt find the .mplayer folder
[09:04] <liable> Pygi: sure, whatever. as long as it gets done..
[09:04] <jack|ass> liable: thanks, i think i'll check out Shorewall next time i'm up there.
[09:05] <sudharsh> jawshoewah: else try this in the home folder
[09:05] <liable> jack|ass: yw
[09:05] <sudharsh> cp .mplayer .mplayer-backup
[09:05] <sudharsh> and then start mplayer
[09:05] <jawshoewah> sudo?
[09:05] <sudharsh> not needed
[09:06] <Zen> sudharsh: is it hard to upgrade manually?
[09:06] <sudharsh> u r meddling in ur home..dats why
[09:06] <sudharsh> Zen: upgrade what
[09:06] <jawshoewah> sats command not found
[09:06] <Pygi> liable: agrees
[09:06] <sudharsh> cp shoud exist
[09:07] <jawshoewah> oh i translated cp as command promt
[09:07] <Blippe> batman: bittornado
[09:07] <jawshoewah> lol
[09:07] <sudharsh> Zen: when u install a new kernel....
[09:07] <sudharsh> ....u hav actually 2 os to boot into
[09:07] <jawshoewah> did that restarted same error
[09:08] <sudharsh> oh and delete the .mplayer
[09:08] <sudharsh> rm -f .mplayer
[09:08] <jawshoewah> just rm .mplayer
[09:08] <sudharsh> rm -f .mplayer * -R
[09:08] <LemLapLin> how do i reload fstab?
[09:08] <kestasworkacc> hold on
[09:08] <sudharsh> rm -f .mplayer/* -R
[09:09] <kestasworkacc> I hope he didnt run that first one sudharsh
[09:09] <CaptainMorgan> ok, I have vmware installed... now how do I run it to test a Win app? I navigated to some apps in mounted Win.. but nothing happened..
[09:09] <jawshoewah> that tried to delet all my m4a files!
[09:09] <sudharsh> ooooooooopsssss.
[09:09] <sudharsh> very sorry
[09:10] <Pygi> sudharsh: advices, advices :P
[09:10] <kestasworkacc> alias rm='rm -i' saves the day
[09:10] <sudharsh> has the damage been done???????
[09:10] <iKernel> CaptainMorgan: You gotta install windows using vmware first
[09:10] <jadams> erm
[09:10] <jadams> so making migrate add a table called "references" bombs out
[09:10] <jawshoewah> i dont know it says permission denied
[09:10] <jadams> if I change the table name to "reference" it's ok
[09:10] <jadams> oh gawd
[09:10] <jadams> wrong chan, sorry
[09:10] <CaptainMorgan> iKernel, i installed it in Linux, now I have to install it in win ??? can you clarify please ?
[09:10] <sudharsh> check just check in the home folder and see for it
[09:11] <elshaa> hi
[09:11] <sudharsh> sorry....jawshoewah
[09:11] <LemLapLin> why do files i copy from an ntfs partition have a padlock on them?
[09:11] <iKernel> CaptainMorgan: No, I'm saying you have to install windows on vmware. Vmware is a product for running a full blown os virtually.
[09:11] <jawshoewah> it's ok  have a backup of all my files..im not sure they are deleted checking now
[09:11] <sudharsh> LemLapLin u gotta change the permissions
[09:12] <odat> LemLapLin, right click on the file go to properties and change the permissions
[09:12] <LemLapLin> permissions are fine as far as i can see
[09:12] <iKernel> CaptainMorgan: Rtm.
[09:12] <jawshoewah> it's all there
[09:12] <sudharsh> then cheange it 2 writable
[09:12] <sudharsh> :P
[09:12] <LemLapLin> ah ok
[09:12] <GauntletWizard> Is there any way to get a root terminal off the livecd?
[09:12] <sudharsh> jawshoewah..
[09:12] <LemLapLin> don't actually want to write it so that's all good
[09:12] <jawshoewah> yes
[09:12] <LemLapLin> ntfs writing is experimental yes?
[09:12] <iKernel> GauntleWizard: sudo -s
[09:12] <sudharsh> go to Places > Home
[09:13] <jawshoewah> ok
[09:13] <sudharsh> and press 'Ctrl + H'
[09:13] <johnjohn> sorry to barge in... how do i know what my 192.168.... addy is ?
[09:13] <CaptainMorgan> if people read manuals there'd be no support channels :))
[09:13] <jawshoewah> ahhh
[09:13] <iKernel> GauntleWizard: Vmware WorkStation 5 manual: http://www.vmware.com/support/ws55/doc/index.html
[09:13] <jawshoewah> that displays hidden
[09:13] <GauntletWizard> ahh. Annoying, but I can see why it's that way
[09:13] <sudharsh> it will show u the hidden files
[09:14] <jawshoewah> backup??
[09:14] <sudharsh> if a file or folder starts with . it will be gidden
[09:14] <sudharsh> *hidden
[09:14] <jawshoewah> i learned that from dsl
[09:14] <sudharsh> delete .mplayer
[09:14] <jawshoewah> didnt know shortcut though
[09:14] <CaptainMorgan> k, how do I install windows on vmplayer ?
[09:14] <sudharsh> me 2 jus learned it last week :D
[09:14] <johnjohn> i just got a stupid voip router and it don't show the local dhcp adresses.
[09:14] <jawshoewah> same error
[09:14] <iKernel> CaptainMorgan: Ah right, vmplayer.
[09:14] <ubuntu> any idead on how to mount my windows drive while running ubuntu live... no starter guide tells me how..
[09:15] <ejofee> dapper will use xorg 6.9 or xorg 7.0?
[09:15] <iKernel> CaptainMorgan: There's a guide to it somewhere...
[09:15] <sudharsh> even after deleeting .mplayer
[09:15] <sudharsh> ?
[09:15] <jawshoewah> yes
[09:15] <elshaa> I'm not root on my machine, and I can't change the screen resolution through the "system"->"administration"->"screen resolution" (french translation) I have no choice but 640x480. But I remember a teacher tells us a command to enlarge the screen resolution. any idea ?
[09:15] <iKernel> CaptainMorgan: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-84275.html
[09:15] <johnjohn> i am trying to open port 5900 for vncserver
[09:15] <jawshoewah> elsha i had that problem too
[09:15] <johnjohn> but i need to know my ip
[09:15] <jawshoewah> its an easy fix
[09:15] <CaptainMorgan> see, you said vmware... what the firgs the diff between a ware and a player? now I forget which I installe...
[09:15] <iKernel> johnjohn: ifconfig
[09:16] <jawshoewah> it's yuour xorg.conf file settings
[09:16] <ubuntu> sudo -s -H
[09:16] <johnjohn> thank you ikernel... i was doing ipconfig
[09:16] <sudharsh> k check what ur xorg.conf says
[09:16] <ubuntu> ah wrong channel :D
[09:16] <odat> vagegast linux?
[09:16] <odat> lol
[09:16] <jawshoewah> sudharsh me>?
[09:16] <elshaa> jawshoewah: I know, but since I'm not root on the machine, I can't change it
[09:17] <sudharsh> jawshoewah: sry try reinstalling mplayer
[09:17] <iKernel> CaptainMorgan: Vmplayer == Free. Vmware Work Station == Expensive.
[09:17] <sudharsh> try sudo..elshaa
[09:17] <GauntletWizard> how do I mount my real hard drive for read/write access?
[09:18] <johnjohn> is edubuntu available in spanish?
[09:18] <iKernel> GauntletWizard: #vmware
[09:18] <sudharsh> GauntletWizard: change the permissions in fstab
[09:18] <CaptainMorgan> this is too much work...
[09:18] <elshaa> sudharsh: I can't. It's a machine at the univ, and I can't get root perms
[09:18] <iKernel> CaptainMorgan: Whinge, whinge, whinge. You'll have to do this. I did.
[09:19] <CaptainMorgan> whinge ?
[09:19] <sudharsh> oh ok...check 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[09:19] <CaptainMorgan> what's whinge ?
[09:19] <CaptainMorgan> actually, no I don't :) in the amount of time Ive attempted this I could've rebooted to Win 30 times
[09:19] <Miyomei> Can I have one monitor running off of an AGP card and one running off of onboard video?
[09:19] <iKernel> CaptainMorgan: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-84275.html
[09:20] <Xnos> hi...
[09:20] <iKernel> read the instructions. This is farily simple
[09:20] <Xnos> ikernel
[09:20] <sudharsh> Miyomei set the onboard video in BIOS to on
[09:20] <Miyomei> Hrm. What if I'm locked out of the BIOS?
[09:20] <elshaa> sudharsh: all the display dubsection have 1280x1024 to 640x480
[09:21] <Miyomei> It's an old school Dell PC, so it's passworded.
[09:21] <CaptainMorgan> 'read the instructions' don't not constitute adequate time leftover..
[09:21] <Xnos> can you help me... with a issue on nautilus?
[09:21] <CaptainMorgan> point - too much wasted time
[09:21] <iKernel> Xnos: Maybe...
[09:21] <s_spiff> just got my 5 cd set of ubuntu ! by mail!
[09:21] <sudharsh> elshaa....check if ur montor is getting detecte dproperly
[09:21] <iKernel> Xnos: It's a rather easy to use program...
[09:21] <Xnos> ok... is that nautilus dont refresh the cd
[09:22] <Xnos> i eject this
[09:22] <sudharsh> Miyomei: thats the only way u can do it
[09:22] <iKernel> Xnos: Don't worry about it.
[09:22] <Miyomei> I see.
[09:22] <iKernel> Whoa lag XD
[09:22] <sudharsh> u gotta tell the bios u r not gonna use the agp card
[09:22] <Xnos> and when insert another one... this still say music cd
[09:22] <iKernel> Xnos: View --> Reload
[09:22] <Miyomei> How can I get ubuntu to recognize my ntfs drive and files?
[09:22] <sudharsh> Miyomei check out fstab
[09:23] <Miyomei> fstab? Where?
[09:23] <Xnos> but this open sound jiucer
[09:23] <iKernel> Miyomei: /etc/fstab
[09:23] <Miyomei> Keep in mind, I JUST switch to Ubuntu from WinXP today.
[09:23] <sudharsh> its in etc
[09:23] <Miyomei> Ah, okay.
[09:23] <sudharsh> doesnt matter
[09:23] <Xnos> but this open sound juicer... i
[09:23] <s_spiff> Miyomei, do check out the wikim its given over there
[09:23] <sudharsh> whatcha get
[09:23] <Xnos> and this is not a music cd
[09:23] <iKernel> Miyomei: Then you should spend some time reading the manual.
[09:24] <odat> Miyomei, you would have been better off just starting fresh
[09:24] <sudharsh> odat :O
[09:24] <Miyomei> I did start fresh. It's a new drive and all.
[09:24] <s_spiff> hey is there a way, by which i can have the x-irc client start flashin in the task pane, everytime my name is mentioned?
[09:24] <odat> i totally wiped everything and said bye windows i've hated you long enough lol
[09:24] <s_spiff>  nice one odat .
[09:24] <Miyomei> Well, I may do that once I get my files. ;p
[09:25] <sudharsh> Miyomei rmber ntfs in linux is experimental
[09:25] <odat> however i was a mac freak for years and years before i used windows for a couple of monts sooo i already hated it lol
[09:25] <s_spiff> never tried mac
[09:25] <sudharsh> too bad we dont macs over here
[09:25] <liable> hah, that pretty much sums up mac users :)
[09:25] <sudharsh> too pricey
[09:25] <s_spiff> quite expensive in india
[09:25] <s_spiff>  sudarsh we do have macs...but very expensive
[09:25] <revmoo> can someone please help me with dual displays? i have an nvidia dualhead card and I have gotten it to where i can see the same desktop on both screens but i want to be able to use the other screen as a seperate desktop, when i used a different xorg.conf, I got two seperate desktops but no way to get the mouse to the second display(it was like a completely seperate copy of the gnome desktop) anyone know how to fix this stuff?
[09:25] <sudharsh> tell me bout it..
[09:26] <odat> s_spiff, mac os x is now unix and / or bsd with one hell of a GUI on top
[09:26] <CaptainMorgan> time is a commodity
[09:26] <odat> s_spiff, its guts are open source
[09:26] <CaptainMorgan> unless you don't work :)
[09:26] <sudharsh> sudharsh is from Chennai
[09:26] <john_> anyone running vnc?  i need to see if someone can get to a password screen on my pc
[09:26] <s_spiff> hmm.. mumbai here
[09:27] <iKernel> john_: Remember to let port tcp 5900 through your firewall and router.
[09:27] <john_> ooo it's ok..... I can remote desktop into the kids xp box
[09:27] <john_> and run vnc from there to me
[09:27] <john_> thanks ikernel... yes i did that
[09:28] <sudharsh> tiny vnc works well
[09:28] <john_> this whole installation under linux is mindboggling
[09:28] <john_> ahhhh the good old setup.exe
[09:28] <victor3d> hi there i need help with ubuntu
[09:28] <odat> k
[09:28] <sudharsh> john_ : oh well what will ya do if u lose ur driver discs
[09:28] <iKernel> john_: ok
[09:29] <iKernel> john_: I won't
[09:29] <Insidious> victor3d: that's what this channel is here for :)
[09:29] <s_spiff>  hey in ubuntu, there is nothing like a slide show of images stored in a folder?
[09:30] <sudharsh> thats possible in kde
[09:30] <s_spiff> a slide show>?
[09:30] <sudharsh> u hav to build a gallery or somethin....forgot though
[09:30] <sudharsh> gee...i dont remember..
[09:30] <s_spiff> achha will check it out
[09:30] <sudharsh> but havin a faint memory of doin it
[09:30] <iKernel> I'm not at all impressed. Ubuntu breezy doesn't come with make.
[09:30] <s_spiff>  sudharsh , u know whats DC++ na?
[09:31] <Beleys>  Poy
[09:31] <sudharsh> nope
[09:31] <s_spiff> umm ok
[09:31] <s_spiff>  anyone here can help me with joining online DC++ hubs?
[09:31] <crimsun> iKernel: you mean you didn't install 'build-essential', rather. A desktop distro doesn't need compilation tools installed by default.
[09:31] <s_spiff> ! DC++
[09:31] <ubotu> s_spiff: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:31] <s_spiff> ! oDC
[09:31] <ubotu> s_spiff: I give up, what is it?
[09:31] <s_spiff> damn!
[09:32] <sudharsh> hav any1 installed the latest vanilla kernel here
[09:32] <sudharsh> 2.6.15
[09:33] <s_spiff> hey anyone knows how to config a pppoe, as in i wanna add ip add's...
[09:33] <odat> gnome rocks!
[09:33] <s_spiff> and ertra gateways
[09:33] <sudharsh> u gotta add em in resolv.conf
[09:33] <iKernel> crimsun: Ah.
[09:34] <iKernel> crimsun: ok
[09:34] <iKernel> crimsun: Once dpkg has finished installing make, I'll install build-essential.
[09:34] <s_spiff> where is it located sudharsh ?
[09:34] <s_spiff> hold on i'll check it out
[09:34] <sudharsh> etc
[09:34] <fek> moin
[09:37] <Pygi> crimsun: it should have development tools installed by default :P
[09:38] <crimsun> Pygi: it's not my decision, and I don't necessarily agree
[09:38] <s_spiff> brb
[09:38] <Pygi> crimsun: yes, yes, I know
[09:38] <john_> woah...  all these windows in linux is freaking me out
[09:39] <sudharsh> john_ what windows
[09:39] <Pygi> well, use shell
[09:39] <iKernel> sudharsh: Different GUI apps
[09:39] <john_> xchat,,, terminal..... filebrowser... firefox
[09:39] <sudharsh> distribute along the workplaces
[09:40] <sudharsh> u know terminals in one desktop,
[09:40] <john_> ahhh
[09:40] <sudharsh> :)
[09:40] <iKernel> john_: I have two xchat windows, one firefox windows, one game windows, 3 file browser windows and one terminal window. there are two tabs in the terminal window.
[09:40] <sudharsh> me have 5 terminals......3 firefox windows 1 xchar 2 synaptic
[09:41] <bod> anyone got a dlink dwl650+ ?  acx100...   no workee under 5.10
[09:41] <iKernel> sudharsh: Why have 5 terminal *windows* open? use tabs.
[09:41] <john_> i get it.... i just right click on the taskbar and say move to another workspace
[09:41] <sudharsh> say..i didnt think bout that....lol
[09:42] <zdux0012> could I ask someone for help installing mythtv on ubento ?
[09:42] <segreteria> rcimola@libero.it
[09:42] <sudharsh> zdux0012 yup whats the prob u r havin
[09:42] <zdux0012> Thanks! I was following the directions I found here: http://www.quietglow.com/docs/ubuntumythtv.html
[09:44] <zdux0012> until I got to a command "make" I recieved an error message: "*** [all]  Error 2"
[09:44] <zdux0012>  *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[09:44] <sudharsh> aahh u need to install the kernel sources
[09:44] <zdux0012> sorry I am a linux newbie
[09:45] <zdux0012> I did enter a command: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-386
[09:45] <sudharsh> what did it say
[09:45] <liable> err, headers hould do..
[09:45] <zdux0012> but perhaps 386 is wrong for this computer? It is a pentium 4
[09:46] <sudharsh> naaa....got em for my amd athlon-xp
[09:46] <sudharsh> doesnt matter
[09:46] <liable> zdux0012: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:46] <zdux0012> should I type that exactly as you wrote it or change "uname -r" to something else?
[09:47] <liable> exactly
[09:47] <liable> with sudo..
[09:47] <zdux0012> ok I'll try it  thanks
[09:47] <heewa> This may be a stupid question, but if I download a cd image, can I burn it onto a dvd? (I only have blank dvds and I want to install ubuntu now!)
[09:47] <liable> stupid sudo..
[09:47] <jawshoewah> is there gnu equivalent to flash or dreamweaver?
[09:47] <Pygi> heewa: sure u can...
[09:47] <Pygi> jaws: fl4 if I am not mistaken or somethin' like that
[09:47] <john_> ikernel... did you say you can try to vnc to me?
[09:48] <iKernel> john_: I tried, but it wouldn't work.
[09:48] <john_> you know my ip?>
[09:48] <sudharsh> jawshoewah tried installing in wine
[09:48] <iKernel> john_: Yeah, it's plainly obvious.
[09:48] <ompaul> liable, was that not >>sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) << :)
[09:48] <liable> make sure 5900 is forwarded..
[09:48] <john_> 5900 is forwarded
[09:48] <jawshoewah> i dont have the progs
[09:48] <iKernel> (n=john@216.187.78.173.novuscom.net): john
[09:48] <liable> ompaul: see my next comment :)
[09:49] <john_> doh!
[09:49] <jawshoewah> looking for an alternative
[09:49] <zdux0012> I did it (with sudo) it installed,, I'll try make now ...
[09:49] <ompaul> liable, I saw them all :-)
[09:49] <iKernel> john_: Forwarded to YOU'RE computer, right?
[09:49] <sudharsh> theres synfig
[09:49] <iKernel> your*
[09:49] <jawshoewah> synfig?
[09:49] <john_> yes.. my 192.168.xx.x
[09:49] <sudharsh> for vector animations, screem fo
[09:49] <sudharsh> analogous to dreamweaver
[09:49] <iKernel> john_: That's not what you actually put in, is it?
[09:49] <john_> no
[09:49] <iKernel> good
[09:49] <zdux0012> thanks!! it is working,
[09:50] <john_> 192.168.15.7
[09:50] <jawshoewah> what about for making swf files?
[09:50] <sudharsh> dunno
[09:50] <john_> i aint too sure about my vnc install
[09:50] <john_> i just right clicked a perl file and said Run
[09:50] <iKernel> jawshoewah: There's a thing called vnc2swf...
[09:50] <heewa> jawshoewah: no, I don't think there's a content creation tool for linux at all
[09:50] <heewa> or, maybe there is!
[09:51] <iKernel> heewa: They're going to make a linux version of flash.
[09:51] <jawshoewah> is because swf is copywritten like mp3 and dvd?
[09:52] <heewa> iKernel: I thought they said they wouldn't do that! That'd be great if they did.
[09:53] <liable> john_: just install vncserver and run it... whats the problem?
[09:53] <john_> i am new to ubuntu.... day2
[09:54] <john_> terminal server client is no problem... i am running it to log into my kids xp box
[09:54] <liable> john_: thats ok, just run vncserver. it asks you for a password, and voila
[09:54] <ozgurgerilla> is ubuntu more professional then debian?
[09:54] <sudharsh> alrito me off
[09:55] <john_> the only way i "think" i can get vncserver to run is to right click a vncserver file (perl) and say "run"
[09:55] <liable> hah, define professional..
[09:55] <liable> john_: no. type vncserver in a term..
[09:55] <odat> anyone into gdesklets?
[09:55] <john_> k
[09:56] <iKernel> heewa: Adobe has aquried macromedia.
[09:56] <odat> really>?
[09:56] <iKernel> Yeah.
[09:56] <john_> command not found
[09:56] <Myrtti> old news ;-)
[09:56] <liable> john_: then install it.. :)
[09:56] <iKernel> Myrtti: Indeed it is.
[09:57] <heewa> I didn't get the feeling that Adobe cared about the Linux userbase up to now.
[09:57] <john_> :(
[09:58] <liable> john_: not sad... happy..
[09:58] <odat> linux is hard to ignore anymore
[09:58] <rawler__> heya ppl.. I recently install dapper, it has more or less worked like a charm..
[09:58] <liable> dpends if you read slashdot or buy computer mags..
[09:58] <heewa> odat: for some markets, it's really not that hard. Photoshop (and Illustrator even more) being a prime example.
[09:58] <rawler__> however, right now it fails on init, failing to start networking..
[09:59] <liable> john_: really, its easy..
[09:59] <odat> heewa, ahhh but this is why Apple is so important and such good friends to have now
[09:59] <jawshoewah> cant find synfig on synaptic
[09:59] <odat> heewa, since the guts of os x are unix ish and open source
[10:00] <rawler__> the only interface defined as auto is loopback, and indeed, when I reboot with init=/bin/bash, "ifup lo" gives me the same beaviour.. it just freezes and waits..
[10:00] <john_> i'm sure it is.  i downloaded a .deb file
[10:00] <rawler__> any ideas, someone?
[10:00] <jawshoewah> hmmm
[10:00] <liable> john_: use apt-get/synaptic..
[10:00] <odat> linux will benefit from Apple's software and vice a verca
[10:00] <ompaul> rawler__, well it is a development operating system it will break and be  fixed many times from now until april 20 when it is declared stable and released
[10:00] <startu_net> charming new years wish: http://purl.oclc.org/NET/NewYear-2005-text
[10:00] <jawshoewah> synfig is on apt get?
[10:01] <john_> did a sudo dpkg -i vnc*.deb
[10:01] <heewa> odat: That helps, but OS X applications are written in obj-c. Not so for Linux. That's a big one right there. Pile on that they'd have to teach their development staff something like GTK, and the licensing issues that come up, and it's enough to scare away upper management.
[10:01] <liable> john_: no, sudo apt-get install vncserver
[10:01] <rawler__> ompaul: absolutely.. I completely aware of that.. :) however, right now I need a solution to get my laptop back up running.. any ideas?
[10:01] <john_> in the directory where the vncserver is?
[10:01] <heewa> (well, you could write it in obj-c in linux, but it's not the norm)
[10:02] <ompaul> rawler__, how much ram have you got, or have you a second machine?
[10:02] <liable> john_: yes, it doesnt matter..
[10:02] <odat> heewa, but steve jobs is a visionary he knows its best to be buddies with open source than to be enemies
[10:02] <iKernel> gcc gonna take a while to compile..
[10:02] <liable> compile gcc??
[10:02] <rawler__> ompaul: actually, not sure of how much ram on that machine, but I do got an extra machine.. why?
[10:02] <iKernel> liable: Yeah, I need gcc-3.4.5.
[10:03] <liable> iKernel: why?
[10:03] <iKernel> liable: Vmware
[10:03] <liable> iKernel: why?
[10:03] <godzzo> Hi
[10:04] <jawshoewah> cant find synfig on synaptic
[10:04] <iKernel> liable: My kernel was compiled with gcc-3.4.5
[10:04] <heewa> odat: Steve Jobs isn't associated with Adobe. And, you don't have to be enemies to ignore.
[10:04] <liable> iKernel: gcc -v?
[10:04] <john_> Package vncserver is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:04] <john_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:04] <john_> is only available from another source
[10:04] <john_> E: Package vncserver has no installation candidate
[10:04] <rawler__> ompaul: 512 mb ram, btw
[10:04] <ompaul> rawler__, well if there is enough ram you can use it build a new install disk when the next one is built, in the mean time have a look at this >> http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/dapper-changes << when they have changed what you want you can go forward there I wonder if you can chroot with a live breezy CD and do an update for the pool on your machine those are my only thoughts other than put breezy on it after backing up using
[10:04] <ompaul>  a live cd over wire for speed and stability
[10:04] <liable> john_: sudo apt-cache search vnc
[10:05] <ilba7r> john_, use the paste bin
[10:05] <odat> heewa, true but adobe didn't forget that steve jobs created their market
[10:05] <iKernel> liable: 4.0.2. I haven't run into any issues that I need help with yet.
[10:05] <liable> john_: paste the results in #flood
[10:05] <iKernel> sorry for the bold... :S
[10:05] <ilba7r> !tell john_  about pastebin
[10:05] <liable> iKernel: but i bet you have 3.4 installed.. dpkg -l |grep gcc
[10:05] <rawler__> ompaul: I can run a dist-upgrade on it..
[10:06] <rawler__> rawler__: I just have to init directly into a shell and manually kick up networking..
[10:06] <iKernel> liable: Nope. :)
[10:06] <ompaul> rawler__, there is that, see you had a solution all along :-)
[10:06] <heewa> odat: It just seems so far removed. It's seems like it isn't necessarily bad for them to create a Linux client, but I just don't see enough incentive or enough of a market for it.
[10:07] <heewa> odat: How many Linux users do you really think would *buy* it?
[10:07] <odat> heewa, maybe not yet
[10:07] <liable> iKernel: so install it! :)
[10:07] <iKernel> liable: But I am.
[10:07] <rawler__> ompaul: well, yes.. I were mostly looking for info, if someone else have seen the problem, if there were a proposed hotfix or similar.. (found no bugs in bugzilla, and nothing in the forums)
[10:08] <liable> iKernel: meh.. :P
[10:08] <heewa> odat: It sounds odd, but I'd really like to see more commercial software on the Linux desktop.
[10:08] <iKernel> liable: I'm not a complete and absouloute linux rookie :)))
[10:08] <odat> heewa, first commercial software for linux should be games
[10:08] <ompaul> rawler__, well forums is not as close to the devs as http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
[10:08] <john_> vnc-common - Virtual network computing server software
[10:08] <liable> iKernel: i realise this, i just dont understand why you would compile gcc
[10:09] <liable> john_: you want a server
[10:09] <iKernel> liable: Because I can't find gcc-3.4.5 in the repos.
[10:09] <john_> xvncviewer - Virtual network computing client software for X
[10:09] <john_> yes... a server
[10:09] <heewa> odat: It seems like that, at least, is slowly happening.
[10:10] <liable> john_: /j #liable for a sec
[10:10] <odat> heewa, i believe ubuntu and of course gnome will be the desktop linux of choice by far    gnome especially because of liscensing
[10:10] <iKernel> john_: vnc4server, vncserver, tightvncserver... they are servers. xvncviewer is merely a viewer.
[10:11] <rawler__> ompaul: oh, that's a good idea of course.. :) I'll check the recent archives.. :)
[10:11] <odat> heewa, i have found with the people i have converted to linux that they find gnome easier
[10:11] <heewa> odat: Seems like a lot of people are drawn to KDE lately. Gnome has a bit of an image problem right now.
[10:11] <ompaul> rawler__, I aim to please, sometimes I have to take time off for target practice :)
[10:11] <jawshoewah> cant find synfig on synaptic
[10:12] <odat> heewa, ahhh but developers are really drawn to kde especially when it comes to commercial software because of liscensing  why pay to develope for a particular crowd when you could develop for that same crowd without paying
[10:12] <iKernel> jawshoewah: You know, there's such thing as a search engine. www.google.com
[10:12] <odat> are=are not
[10:13] <iKernel> jawshoewah: Ubuntu deb repos are not the only source for programs/libs and the rest.
[10:13] <jawshoewah> yeah i found the page everytime I click the dl link it crashes firefox...thought someone might know of an alternative\
[10:13] <heewa> odat: Gnome certainly has a more professional feel to it.
[10:13] <jawshoewah> thanks for pointing out the obvious though ikernel
[10:13] <ilba7r> jawshoewah, do you have all repos enabled/
[10:13] <ilba7r> !repos
[10:13] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:14] <jawshoewah> ilba yes I have binaries for uni and multi enabled for breezy
[10:14] <odat> heewa, i don't like how kde wants you to use all of their special programs   sorta like MS
[10:15] <heewa> odat: I really don't like a lot about KDE. I don't even file like getting into it.
[10:16] <odat> heewa, lol that whole friggin thing feels like MS to me
[10:16] <heewa> Yes! I completely agree.
[10:17] <odat> heewa, just went to pick on them lol
[10:17] <iKernel> jawshoewah: Try finding another download link.
[10:18] <iKernel> waiting for something to finish compiling is so boring!
[10:18] <odat> i'll be kicked out of kde room soon lol
[10:18] <sudharsh> lol
[10:18] <Hendikins> Tsk tsk :P
[10:18] <jawshoewah> thanks ikernel I did find one....I have had very little success makeing tarballs functional so i was hoping to find it easier somehow
[10:18] <heewa> aww, don't be mean. They're just doing things the way they think is best. I fully support that.
[10:18] <iKernel> jawshoewah: You have build-essential installed?
[10:18] <jawshoewah> im not sure
[10:19] <iKernel> jawshoewah: dpkg -l | grep build-essential
[10:19] <odat> heewa, yea true but to have someone be truthful even when it hurts can be a good thing
[10:19] <jawshoewah> sudo?
[10:20] <heewa> Alright, Ima go install Ubuntu. Hope this goes better than last try I gave it over summer.
[10:20] <xored> i can mount a USB-stick, but iam failing on mounting a USB-drive. Somehow there is a sdb (sda is my SATA HDD) when i plug in a usb-stick, but there is no one with the drive. Can someone help ?
[10:20] <rawler__> ompaul: well, dug through the lists and found nothing of value.. :S
[10:20] <ompaul> heewa, got 5.10 ?
[10:20] <zdux0012> thanks for the help,, I am going to reboot
[10:20] <Hendikins> A different point of view is simply a result of seeing things in a different way to you. I do see some merit to the way KDE handles that, and I do like the integration, but that doesn't mean I disagree with other views on the matter.
[10:21] <rawler__> ompaul: the bug probably got introduced yesterday, and well, let's say I'm eagerly awaiting a fix.. ;)
[10:21] <ompaul> rawler__, my silly question of the day for you is why do you need dapper?
[10:21] <heewa> ompaul: yea
[10:21] <Hendikins> kioslaves are particularly neat :)
[10:22] <jawshoewah> launch builessential?
[10:22] <ompaul> heewa, it is just it came out after the summer so you have the latest stable
[10:22] <iKernel> ................when ya wake up in da morning and it's quarter to two........
[10:22] <ompaul> iKernel, am or pm :-)
[10:22] <iKernel> ompaul: am of course. it's the morning, after all
[10:22] <Hendikins> rawler__: Do you plan on doing Real Work[TM]  with the machine?
[10:22] <chalcedony> problem: when i reconnect to an IRC server, or my husband restarted his box, our Xchat changes it's user@  the host is produced as a random string of letters.. i don't want to look like a bot/ HELP ?
[10:23] <sudharsh> maybe someone is online with ur id
[10:23] <jawshoewah> how do I launch build essintial?
[10:23] <ompaul> iKernel, was I being funny? or just 12 hours later ...
[10:23] <sudharsh> why would u want o launch buildessential
[10:24] <ompaul> jawshoewah, you don't gcc is the main item in it, you install it with >> sudo apt-get install build-essential<<
[10:24] <iKernel> jawshoewah: you don't. build essential is a set of tools that are essential to build stuff from source (hence, build-essential)
[10:24] <jawshoewah> to help me make tarballs install
[10:24] <sudharsh> thats not an app
[10:24] <odat> heewa, geez most of these guys are unaware of the liscense
[10:24] <jawshoewah> ahh
[10:24] <ompaul> jawshoewah, what program has a tar ball that you want to install ?
[10:24] <sudharsh> jawshoewah: if make works....fine
[10:24] <iKernel> jawshoeway: extract the tarballs, cd into the directory they extracted to and type ./configure
[10:24] <jawshoewah> well maybe I can build this synfigstudio now
[10:25] <Hendikins> That actually brings me to something I've been wondering about. Does anyone here use Linux at work, for general office type duties?
[10:25] <jawshoewah> yeah make wasnt making
[10:25] <iKernel> jawshoewah: why not?
[10:25] <sudharsh> oh that extract the tar balls first
[10:25] <chalcedony> sudharsh maybe someone is online with ur id <<---- nick would go to the next in line, Hostname never.
[10:25] <jawshoewah> i tried it on a couple unpacked tarball programs and nothing happened
[10:25] <sudharsh> sry i didnt know that
[10:26] <kemik> uh.. my Applications menu is acting up.. when i click on it it's briefly displayed ( 1<second) then it just minimizes to a small pixel.. this doesnt happen to Places or System
[10:26] <jawshoewah> i had to go back and find what i wanted through synaptic
[10:26] <sudharsh> tarballs are like zip files
[10:26] <iKernel> jawshoewah: a tarball isn't a program.
[10:26] <jawshoewah> instead of web
[10:26] <sudharsh> they are not programs
[10:26] <jawshoewah> i realize its like zip
[10:26] <ompaul> jawshoewah, what is the full extention of the file you are looking at ?
[10:26] <chalcedony> Hendikins: thousands of companies and millions of people use Linux for work applications, they are why Linux is so great.
[10:26] <iKernel> jawshoewah: tarballs contain sources to build programs.
[10:26] <POpenScr> hey can you start ubuntu live with docache so you can take the cd out?
[10:26] <sudharsh> u gotta extract it first
[10:26] <jawshoewah> synfigstudio-0.61.01.tar.gz
[10:26] <sudharsh> tar -xvf synfig*
[10:27] <iKernel> tar -xvf synfigstudio-0.61.01.tar.gz
[10:27] <jawshoewah> i recognize that tar is a way of compressing files
[10:27] <s_spiff> hey. someone help me with installing DC++ for linux
[10:27] <rapha> Hi all!
[10:27] <Hendikins> chalcedony: I'm thinking more in a whip poll capacity. I use Linux at work because I provide my own computer gear. I actually don't know anyone else who uses it on the work desktop outside of software development.
[10:27] <jawshoewah> does the astrik work?
[10:27] <rawler__> ompaul: the reason is actually quite simple.. I could never get Breezy to use my bluetooth phone as a GPRS modem..
[10:27] <s_spiff>  i tried the howto.. but gettin errors i cant figure out..
[10:27] <rawler__> ompaul: the reason is actually quite simple.. I could never get Breezy to use my bluetooth phone as a GPRS modem..
[10:27] <sudharsh> atrik is an wildcard
[10:27] <rapha> What release is ShipIt currently shipping?
[10:27] <POpenScr> iKernel: arn't your missing the z?
[10:27] <rawler__> damn arrow-keys..
[10:27] <ompaul> jawshoewah, tar xvzf synfigstudio-0.61.01.tar.gz
[10:27] <sudharsh> rapha 5.10
[10:27] <POpenScr> xzvf
[10:27] <iKernel> POpenScr: No.
[10:28] <s_spiff>  posted the rror here : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=28378&highlight=dc
[10:28] <rapha> sudharsh: Thanks! Any idea when shipping of 6.04 will begin?
[10:28] <jawshoewah> have to cd first guys
[10:28] <rawler__> Hendikins: Actually, I hope to get it usable ASAP.. I have a feeling my boss wouldn't like me to sit on my hands waiting.. ;)
[10:28] <s_spiff> someone help!!!
[10:28] <sudharsh> April
[10:28] <ompaul> rawler__, that seems reasonable
[10:28] <rapha> sudharsh: Kay, thanks!
[10:28] <ilba7r> .
[10:28] <deFrysk> rapha, around 06.04
[10:28] <rapha> deFrysk: thanks :-)
[10:28] <deFrysk> rapha, hence the version numbers
[10:28] <iKernel> jawshoewah: Of course you do. That is obvious obviously obvious thing that is obviously required (obviously).
[10:28] <Hendikins> rawler__: I'd personally see if it was possible to drop in replacement parts, rather than conversion to an unstable distro
[10:29] <rawler__> ompaul: I think so.. A laptop is a LOT more versatile in combination with a cell-phone modem.. ;)
[10:29] <rapha> deFrysk: Yeah, that's pretty obvious. I was just wondering whether it would accept pre-orders.
[10:29] <ompaul> rapha, april 20th to be exact with the release name being 6.04 the 04 being the month and the 6 being the year
[10:29] <rawler__> and I need it for business.. :)
[10:29] <iKernel> jawshoewah: Of course you do. That is the most obvious obviously obvious thing that is obviously required (obviously).
[10:29] <jawshoewah> right but imagine me being totally rodent dependant and illiterate
[10:29] <iKernel> sorry, missed out "the most"
[10:29] <rapha> ompaul: I know, I know :-)
[10:29] <jawshoewah> obvious
[10:29] <trnqul1t1> hi all
[10:29] <ompaul> rapha, so good you know it twice :)
[10:29] <sudharsh> jawshoewah: do a ./configure
[10:29] <jawshoewah> i spell with phonics.....is there a repo for phonics?
[10:30] <rawler__> Hendikins: well, I tried.. but after a day of fiddling with package dependecies, various conflicts here and there, and not getting a bit closer to a working setup, I gave in and tried installing dapper..
[10:30] <jawshoewah> translater
[10:30] <iKernel> jawshoewah: don't you mean a debian pacakge?
[10:30] <iKernel> maybe not...
[10:30] <trnqul1t1> does anyone know where the downloaded packages get saved? i need to update a system not online with packages from another system.. would appreciate ant help!
[10:30] <ompaul> jawshoewah, it is a deb that does X from a repo
[10:31] <sophtpaw> how do i change password for NickServ?
[10:31] <iKernel> trnqul1t1: i don't know if they DO get saved...
[10:31] <sudharsh> chek the faq mate
[10:31] <ompaul> sophtpaw  /ns help  and read the results
[10:31] <iKernel> !gnu
[10:31] <ubotu> iKernel: I give up, what is it?
[10:32] <iKernel> you gotta be kidding me!
[10:32] <rapha> ompaul: thrice I think ... more people responded with how the version numbers work than whether ShipIt would accept pre-orders.
[10:32] <jawshoewah> $ sudo cd home/joshua/
[10:32] <jawshoewah> Password:
[10:32] <jawshoewah> sudo: cd: command not found
[10:32] <ompaul> !gnu
[10:32] <ubotu> methinks gnu is gnu's not unix, see http://www.gnu.org
[10:32] <trnqul1t1> iKernel: hmm.. okies
[10:32] <iKernel> trnqul1t1: but RTM
[10:33] <ozgurgerilla> ubunu is an african name right?
[10:33] <ozgurgerilla> ubuntu*
[10:33] <iKernel> I thought I already told ubotu what gnu was...
[10:33] <ompaul> rapha, shipit is a mystery shrouded in magic and with a production system that is big and fast
[10:34] <ompaul> rapha, however numbers go against them
[10:34] <ompaul> ozgurgerilla, it is
[10:34] <trnqul1t1> iKernel: thx
[10:34] <iKernel> ozurgerilla: nope.
[10:34] <iKernel> ozurgerilla: ubuntu is an african word...
[10:35] <jawshoewah> wow thats the first time a ./configure command has worked!
[10:35] <ompaul> !ubuntu
[10:35] <ubotu> I guess ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards.
[10:35] <rawler__> Hendikins, ompaul: *ahh* splendid! Who needs loopback anyways? ;)
[10:35] <sudharsh> jawshoewah ./configure isnt a command
[10:35] <jawshoewah> its the first time it has done anything
[10:35] <sudharsh> its a script
[10:35] <ozgurgerilla> thanks.
[10:35] <sophtpaw> i'm using the commands given for /msg NickServ help and i keep getting 'no help'
[10:36] <iKernel> ok ubotu, since you told (..?) to
[10:36] <iKernel> !awards
[10:36] <ubotu> awards is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks
[10:36] <sudharsh> check the root of ur extracted tarball
[10:36] <iKernel> ok, ubotu
[10:36] <zdux0012> what does ubuntu mean?
[10:36] <sudharsh> there will be a file called configure
[10:36] <ozgurgerilla> does anyone program ubuntu in here?
[10:36] <iKernel> zdux0012: Humanity to others.
[10:36] <albacker> what should i do ? http://pastebin.com/498995
[10:36] <jawshoewah> so ./configure than type make?
[10:36] <ompaul> Hendikins, all development platforms break, it is not unstable it is dev - stable is breezy if people can't wait then they risk broken software - harsh but true
[10:36] <iKernel> sudharsh: A script, to be more precise.
[10:37] <iKernel> jawshoewah: yep
[10:37] <jawshoewah> ;)
[10:37] <iKernel> jawshoewah: then type make install
[10:37] <sophtpaw> zdux0012: "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "humanity to others". Ubuntu also means "I am what I am because of who we all are". The Ubuntu Linux distribution brings the spirit of Ubuntu to the software world.
[10:37] <Hendikins> ompaul: I run Mozilla CVS HEAD, have done so for several years. I know the caveats of such things.
[10:37] <jawshoewah> says command not found?
[10:37] <sudharsh> sudo make install
[10:37] <sudharsh> u dont have make installed then
[10:37] <ompaul> zdux0012, scroll back a little ubotu told us all the meaning
[10:37] <sudharsh> i mean automake
[10:37] <odat> wow this if fun
[10:38] <odat> these guys don';t know the pitfalls to kde
[10:38] <jawshoewah> arrrr apt-get | grep makeinstall?
[10:38] <odat> lol
[10:38] <iKernel> Should install with build-essential
[10:38] <iKernel> jawshoewah: no
[10:38] <iKernel> jawshoewah: apt-get install build-essential
[10:38] <jawshoewah> k
[10:38] <chalcedony> is there something weird about ubuntu that would make Xchat change it's hostmask every time it connects???
[10:38] <sudharsh> no works for me
[10:38] <sophtpaw> anyone tell me how i can change or recover my password which i have forgotten (it seems)
[10:38] <zdux0012> could I ask for more help (mythtv following directions at http://www.quietglow.com/docs/ubuntumythtv.html)
[10:38] <ompaul> odat, that is why sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop exists that works then add to it
[10:38] <jawshoewah> should i cd out of synfigstudios dir?
[10:39] <sudharsh> for what
[10:39] <iKernel> sphtpaw: /nickserv help
[10:39] <sudharsh> u need to be in the extracted dir to make
[10:39] <odat> ompaul, nah i can't stand kde
[10:39] <sophtpaw> iKernel: i followed the commands <command> and none of them opened up
[10:40] <ompaul> odat, yahgu happy gnome user :)
[10:40] <jawshoewah> right but to do apt-get install build-essential
[10:40] <jawshoewah> ?
[10:40] <LemLapLin> how do i enable APM support in the kernel?
[10:40] <sudharsh> sudo apt-get install buils-essential
[10:40] <sophtpaw> iKernel: besides i don't see listed the command for changing passwords
[10:40] <sudharsh> jawshoewah: must have misssed the sudo aprt
[10:40] <sudharsh> *part
[10:41] <jawshoewah> i did ;) now it says make command not found it dowloaded sudo apt-get install buils-essential
[10:41] <jawshoewah> ooops
[10:41] <iKernel> chalcedony: /j #freenode. And no, that has nothing to do with X-Chat, x-chat is just a client.
[10:41] <ompaul> sophtpaw, /ns help is the start then you see set and you end up with >>/ns set password NEWPASSWORD<<
[10:41] <iKernel> and he sets his password as NEWPASWORD I bet.
[10:41] <sudharsh> u also need to install automake and autoconf
[10:42] <ompaul> iKernel, hehe
[10:42] <jawshoewah> there we go darn typos
[10:42] <iKernel> sudharsh: That should come with build-essential. Make seems to be working fine for me.
[10:42] <sophtpaw> ompaul: ok, so how do i get into 'SET'?
[10:42] <sudharsh> i didnt no dat sry
[10:42] <sudharsh> then whats automake and autoconf
[10:42] <LemLapLin> how do i enable APM support in the kernel?
[10:42] <iKernel> sophtpaw: type /ns set password [password] 
[10:43] <ompaul> sophtpaw, I gave you the command  how hard can it be maybe don't change it if you can't cope with it
[10:43] <iKernel> sudharsh: I don't know, something to do with compilation.
[10:43] <sudharsh> LemLapLin: r u building a vanilla kernel
[10:43] <sudharsh> okie
[10:43] <odat> lol they kicked me out
[10:43] <rapha> Bye!
[10:43] <ompaul> sophtpaw,  >>/ns set password NEWPASSWORD<< where you choose what NEWPASSWORD is
[10:43] <jawshoewah> do i need to define make when in the proper directory?
[10:43] <odat> friggin kde morons
[10:43] <iKernel> man, what is this vanilla crap?
[10:43] <odat> god i swear they want to turn linux into a payfor desktop
[10:43] <iKernel> !vanilla
[10:43] <ubotu> iKernel: What?
[10:43] <jawshoewah> ie make synfigstudio-0.61.01?
[10:43] <iKernel> :(
[10:43] <sudharsh> thats the original kernel
[10:44] <ompaul> iKernel, now I am not putting that in there
[10:44] <j2daosh> whats up people? would anyone happen to know a program that will list all user's logged into a comp and give options to kick them off? possibly with a gui but not necessessary. i am going to be working on one since im learning perl but one in C would look beter i think
[10:44] <iKernel> odat: Some companies have commercial versions of their distros. RedHat, Novell...
[10:44] <jawshoewah> ie make synfigstudio-0.61.01?
[10:44] <Myrtti> finger :->
[10:44] <iKernel> jawshoewah: no.
[10:44] <iKernel> jawshoewah: just cd to the source dir and type make
[10:45] <j2daosh> finger tels me who they are
[10:45] <odat> iKernel, but that whole kde  QT thing is really slimey
[10:45] <ompaul> Myrtti, w
[10:45] <j2daosh> im talking like the who command
[10:45] <jawshoewah> :~/Desktop/synfigstudio-0.61.01$ make
[10:45] <jawshoewah> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[10:45] <iKernel> odat: meh
[10:45] <LemLapLin> can someone please tell me how do i enable APM support in the kernel?
[10:45] <sophtpaw> god this is frustrating
[10:45] <sudharsh> guess what had my error myselves
[10:45] <LemLapLin> i need it so i can read the battery level of my lappy
[10:45] <odat> iKernel, ?
[10:45] <sophtpaw> i can't recover or change my password
[10:45] <iKernel> jawshoewah: cd to the extracted folder for christ's sake!
[10:45] <j2daosh> sophtpaw, wjats going on?
[10:45] <ompaul> jawshoewah, if you have a lot of output make sure you do not post it here >> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org<< is for that
[10:46] <jawshoewah> it looks like i am
[10:46] <sudharsh> jawshoewah: u need to be 'in' the dir u extrcated
[10:46] <sophtpaw> i forgot my password
[10:46] <sudharsh> tell the output of pwd
[10:46] <ompaul> sophtpaw, then you can't reset the password for irc
[10:46] <j2daosh> the root password? or just an account password?
[10:46] <j2daosh> oh its on here
[10:46] <j2daosh> lol
[10:47] <iKernel> j2dosh: yes.
[10:47] <sophtpaw> ompaul: that is what it seems like, so i got to ditch my handle then
[10:47] <zdux0012> Can I ask for help installing mythTv, I'm following directions at http://www.quietglow.com/docs/ubuntumythtv.html
[10:47] <j2daosh> maybe /msg nickserv reregister password
[10:47] <zdux0012> I'm not getting the results I expected from dmesg, I get an error message about a firmware update: unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
[10:47] <j2daosh> lol
[10:47] <iKernel> jawshoewah: See the file called INSTALL? read it.
[10:47] <ompaul> sophtpaw, no join #freenode wait a long time to be given voice and then explain your problem
[10:48] <zdux0012> I can paste the entire text on the paste page
[10:48] <iKernel> zdux0012: yep.
[10:48] <ompaul> zdux0012, paste.ubuntu-nl.org is your friend
[10:48] <marc_> Where can I report bugs in dapper ?
[10:49] <iKernel> hurry up... :(
[10:49] <crimsun> marc_: bugzilla.ubuntu.com (main), launchpad.net/malone (universe/multiverse)
[10:49] <jawshoewah> im sorry if I am inexperienced i have never done this operation before and the guidance is teaching me....i am in the dir i created...nevermind thanks for getting me this far though
[10:50] <marc_> crimsun, ah ok .. I guessed the bugzilla was for released only .. stupid me :p
[10:50] <j2daosh> what the hell is dapper? everyone is always talking about it but i have no idea what it is
[10:50] <Nameeater> i've installed a 2nd hdd in my ubuntu box, how can I mount it/add it to fstab?
[10:50] <iKernel> jawshoewah: Usually when you do things for the first time, you read the manual. I did.
[10:50] <Myrtti> j2daosh: the next stable release of April
[10:50] <Ng> j2daosh: the current development version of ubuntu, it will be released in april
[10:50] <jawshoewah> ok
[10:50] <j2daosh> oh... ok
[10:50] <iKernel> cept make didn't come with suse personal... so annoying
[10:50] <sudharsh> lol
[10:50] <j2daosh> Nameeater, sudo vi /etc/fstab
[10:51] <Nameeater> and then? :|
[10:51] <j2daosh> add it and then do mount "whatever you named it"
[10:51] <j2daosh> or mount -a
[10:51] <Ng> Nameeater: does the disk have any partitions on it yet? If it's a completely new and blank disk you probably want to use something like the Disk administrator or gparted to set up some partitions
[10:51] <iKernel> j2daosh: Some how I don't think he knows how to edit fstab.
[10:51] <heewa> j2daosh: Try "who -uH". That'll give you the users logged on, and the PID of the init process. You can then kill the process to kick them off.
[10:51] <Nameeater> ooo automounter sounds interesting
[10:52] <Ng> then you can add them to he fstab in the style of the existing entries
[10:52] <nikol> where can i find the plugins for ubuntu 5.04 to play mp3,mpg,mpeg,dvd etc...????
[10:52] <Nameeater> Ng: its a fat32 disk i think
[10:52] <sudharsh> nikol: install xmms, xine
[10:52] <iKernel> Nameeater: format it to ext3.
[10:52] <jawshoewah> all of the documentation says its "just a placeholder for now" i assume that sense make does nothing ie command not found I just skip to makefile
[10:52] <marc_> crimsun, ok .. it's already reported ;) http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22204  .. my patch was not htat right it seems after all eithr :)
[10:53] <j2daosh> ok i got another question... whats the pts stand for? u got tty for actually being at the console and pts... im assuming something concerning rlogin but what does it mean exactly
[10:54] <j2daosh> and if im siting here at the computer shouldn't i have a tty instead of a pts for my name?
[10:54] <Nameeater> iKernel: is there any reason to?
[10:54] <j2daosh> how big is your drive Nameeater
[10:54] <iKernel> Nameeater: Yes... ext3 is better.
[10:55] <Nameeater> the drive is a tiny 1.2gig
[10:55] <j2daosh> do you have windows installed also?
[10:55] <Nameeater> no
[10:55] <darkkyokusanagi> how to make ubuntu sound output to SPDIF?
[10:55] <j2daosh> ok... well if it is such a small drive i dont see where it would matter
[10:55] <iKernel> hmm k
[10:55] <j2daosh> ext3 is more stable but fat is recognized by all sys
[10:55] <darkkyokusanagi> i have only XMMS via ALSA for use SPDIF
[10:55] <iKernel> when is this gonna finish?!
[10:55] <nikol> where can i find the plugins for ubuntu 5.04 to play mp3,mpg,mpeg,dvd etc...????
[10:56] <Nameeater> tried to use the automounter but it doesn't see it, how can i list hdd's and partitions?
[10:56] <pornsurfer> How can i setup dual monitor with Ubuntu? I have nvidia ti4400 dual output.
[10:56] <j2daosh> so if your gonna be sharing it just use fat and a windows/nix box will recognize it...
[10:56] <Nameeater> !mp3
[10:56] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:56] <j2daosh> system...administration...disks
[10:56] <iKernel> nikol: Install xmms and xine. Open up synaptic, and use it to install xmms, and also use it to install xine.
[10:57] <victor3d> hello
[10:57] <nikol> iKernel: i looked in synaptic but i did not find xmms and xine!!!
[10:57] <j2daosh> ok another question... i can touch a file in my home directory but nowhere else without having to do a sudo... even if i create a directory in the / directory
[10:57] <coz> hello
[10:58] <j2daosh> why is that? if i make the file and directory i should be able to mod anytime anyway i want correct?
[10:58] <odat> iKernel, xine  nah mplayer
[10:58] <victor3d> please tell me how to add application to gnome menu?
[10:58] <coz> Nikol you have to have all ther respositories activated
[10:58] <j2daosh> how so i make it so i can mod anything without sudo unless it is specifically owned by root
[10:58] <j2daosh> ?
[10:58] <pornsurfer> does ubuntu even have capability to do dual monitor?
[10:58] <sudharsh> j2daosh: u have write access only yo ur home dir
[10:58] <blue-frog> j2daosh, root made the directory and it's owned by rooot
[10:58] <coz> prnsurfer yes
[10:58] <j2daosh> go to applications... system tools... menu editor
[10:58] <odat> nikol, go with mplayer  just does stuff better   xine mozilla plugin stinks
[10:58] <coz> nikol do you need help with this
[10:59] <iKernel> j2daosh: You mean other users' stuff?
[10:59] <j2daosh> no i mean my stuff
[10:59] <coz> nickol what are you trying to sso
[10:59] <coz> do
[10:59] <iKernel> j2daosh: Oh ok. Already done for you.
[10:59] <zdux0012> could I ask for help on how to do a firmware upgrade on a capture card
[10:59] <iKernel> j2daosh: Unless you installed some stuffs in your home dir as root, no problem.
[10:59] <pornsurfer> can someone point me in the right direction to get dual monitor setup on ubuntu?
[10:59] <coz> odat is right nikol
[10:59] <j2daosh> i had to sudo mkdir and all that because it wouldn't let me create one... but now i gotta sudo anytime i make a file... mod a file or want to del a file...
[10:59] <darkkyokusanagi> Where can i found a good how-to for installing and configuring ubuntu 5.10?
[10:59] <odat> coz, thanx
[10:59] <odat> :)
[11:00] <coz> :) nor prob guy
[11:00] <jawshoewah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6880 make problems
[11:00] <blue-frog> j2daosh, sudo makes root owner...
[11:00] <coz> nikol are you still here
[11:00] <j2daosh> what group do i need to be apart of to make/mod/del files
[11:00] <nikol> what is odat coz?
[11:00] <victor3d> j2daosh: Add/Remove programs?
[11:00] <j2daosh> without root
[11:00] <coz> odat is one person here
[11:00] <gerald> how do I disable teh computer speaker?
[11:00] <odat> i'm a guy nikol
[11:00] <odat> lol
[11:00] <j2daosh> vic... u on ubuntu?
[11:00] <odat> nikol you need a good repositories list
[11:00] <iKernel> j2daosh: Sounds like the stuff in your home dir is owned by root. What a shame.
[11:00] <coz> nikol do you need help with this and what are you trying to do
[11:00] <blue-frog> j2daosh, you create your folder/files in your home directory
[11:00] <victor3d> j2daosh: i don't have menu editor in ubuntu
[11:01] <coz> nikol hello?
[11:01] <nikol> i;m trying
[11:01] <j2daosh> u dont have an icon for applications... then system tools... then application menu editor?
[11:01] <coz> trying what?
[11:01] <nikol> to play mp3's and
[11:01] <nikol> dvd,mpeg
[11:01] <liable> j2daosh: so change the perme/owner/group for it..
[11:01] <j2daosh> what if i dont want the files in my home directory though
[11:01] <pornsurfer> does ubuntu have built in support for dual monitor, or do i have to get something?
[11:01] <coz> OH well that may take a bit more time unless you want to use automatix
[11:01] <coz> but some people don't like that
[11:02] <j2daosh> with the chown command?
[11:02] <nikol> ...
[11:02] <victor3d> j2daosh: no i don't have this one.... please tell me which command should i execute to configure the menu?
[11:02] <liable> chown chgrp chmod.. whatever is neccsary
[11:02] <coz> nikol we could have ypu uo and running in about 15 minutes maybe more
[11:02] <nikol> automatix is what???
[11:02] <coz> atomatix a script to download an isntal many fo the things youwant
[11:03] <coz> hold on I will get it for you
[11:03] <nikol> ...
[11:03] <gerald> how do I turn off the computer speaker/
[11:03] <j2daosh> no idea from the command line
[11:03] <liable> doh
[11:03] <odat> coz, that thing is a little too much i think but for a newbie i guess its cool
[11:03] <j2daosh> gerald... u talking about the beep or muting?
[11:03] <liable> not the 64 one!
[11:04] <jawshoewah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6880 make problems
[11:04] <j2daosh> bimberi, hows it haning guy... long time no see
[11:04] <nikol> i'm the newbie
[11:04] <nikol> !!
[11:04] <ubotu> ??
[11:04] <pornsurfer> anyway to force ubuntu to use the other monitor connected to my video card?
[11:04] <gerald> i want to get rid of the beeping
[11:04] <j2daosh> open a terminal
[11:04] <jose> hi guys, can anyone help me setting up my wireless? i'm getting crazy :D
[11:04] <rawler__> ompaul, Hendikins: I'll be damned.. seems like the problem were in zeroconf.. damn zeroconf crap.. *pissed*
[11:04] <bimberi> hey j2daosh, not too bad :) you?
[11:04] <coz> nikol are you using ubuntu breezy?
[11:04] <nikol> nop
[11:04] <jose> i don't know how to configure the file /etc/network/interfaces
[11:04] <j2daosh> go to edit... current profile... change the tinkerbell option
[11:04] <coz> what are you using
[11:04] <nikol> hoary
[11:04] <gerald> not too bad :) you?
[11:05] <coz> Oh well I don't know abouthoary and automatix
[11:05] <rawler__> ompaul, Hendikins: when bringing lo up, as far as I understand, zeroconf tried to negotiate link-local address over a loopback interface.. :S
[11:05] <ompaul> rawler__, exactly what was the problem
[11:05] <coz> if you want to try it that;s ok but I haven't
[11:05] <odat> Nikol, go here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:05] <coz> nikol here http://rapidshare.de/files/8990420/automatix-ubuntu_v3.4.8.tar.gz.html
[11:05] <coz> just incase you want to try it
[11:05] <j2daosh> bimberi, not a whole lot... im helping people lol... only had this like 3 weeks and im somewhat knowledgeable now lol... crazy aint it. im gonna start working on learning perl today... supposedly i can learn it in 21 days. lets see if the book lies
[11:06] <rawler__> ompaul: well, seems like ifup lo triggered an attempt to negotiate link-local address on it.. I'm not surprised that did not work.. ;)
[11:06] <odat> coz, guess what
[11:06] <iKernel> woot woot! finished compileing. now for make install
[11:06] <j2daosh> rawler... ssh with freenx problem?
[11:07] <nikol> coz can we have a private conversation?
[11:07] <j2daosh> jenda, whats up... had your coffee yet
[11:07] <j2daosh> lol
[11:07] <odat> coz, i went into kde room got in a fight they tried to tell me you didn't need to liscense QT to write commercial software i sent them to this link http://www.trolltech.com/developer/faqs/index.html?catid=1953&id=159     and they banned me from talking to the channel lolololol
[11:08] <Ng> troll
[11:08] <j2daosh> and what the hell man... ur over in europe... u should be up already... lol its like almost noon there
[11:08] <kemik> Ng:  yeah, it says so in the link "trolltech" ;)
[11:08] <kemik> hihi
[11:08] <johnjohn> coffee... hmmm it's 2am here...... tempting but i'll pass
[11:08] <ompaul> j2daosh, no it is like ------- 10:08 am
[11:08] <iKernel> j2daosh: I knew a guy who slept till 1 pm
[11:08] <j2daosh> 4 am here
[11:09] <j2daosh> and ill be getting some of that on the way to work lol
[11:09] <iKernel> 9 pm here
[11:09] <jenda> j2daosh hey there. You're right - but I'm sick. I got the right to be in bed :)
[11:09] <j2daosh> oh ok well if your sick its ok... i wont give you too much flak for being lazy
[11:09] <j2daosh> om... not in the uk
[11:10] <iKernel> woot woot gcc finished install. bout time.
[11:10] <j2daosh> jenda aren't u in like german or somewhere around that timezone?
[11:10] <jenda> j2daosh: Czech Rep. - yup, that TZ
[11:10] <jenda> Mega OT
[11:10] <j2daosh> yeah that one lol
[11:11] <iKernel> Guys, why did the penguin cross the ice?
[11:11] <j2daosh> because it got pushed?
[11:11] <iKernel> j2daosh: nope
[11:11] <iKernel> give up?
[11:11] <j2daosh> it slipped and couldn't stop?
[11:11] <iKernel> lol nup
[11:11] <j2daosh> because there was a windows box on the other side it wanted to break?
[11:11] <iKernel> heh heh... nup
[11:12] <j2daosh> uhh... no idea
[11:12] <iKernel> To get to the other side! XD
[11:12] <j2daosh> lol
[11:12] <nikol> is there anyone who want's a private conversation with me? (i have 1002 questions :(  )
[11:12] <coz> he wanted to
[11:12] <coz> nikol I will
[11:13] <coz> nikol are you registered?
[11:13] <nikol> nop
[11:13] <coz> can't do it
[11:14] <nikol> :(
[11:14] <coz> Ok nikol lsets start
[11:14] <nikol> okz
[11:14] <mikelo> i get this when i apt-cache search "Couldn't stat source package list"
[11:14] <coz> did you get all of the sources list
[11:15] <nikol> at first i wanna play mp3,mpg etc but i am in internet cafe and the os is winxp!
[11:15] <nikol> i must download the plugins etc...
[11:15] <coz> oh can't help unless it is your xp machine
[11:15] <coz> and that is all by default in xp
[11:15] <iKernel> This better work this time, I have done CC=gcc3
[11:15] <iKernel> AWW WHAT?!!?
[11:16] <kemik> iKernel:  ?
[11:16] <iKernel> oh wait... here's the problem
[11:16] <iKernel> Unable to find the compiler specified in the CC environnment variable: "gcc3".
[11:16] <iKernel> hmm
[11:16] <kemik> gcc-3.X
[11:16] <kemik> i guess
[11:16] <Ng> nikol: the RestrictedFormats wiki page explains how to obtain the plugins for mp3, etc.
[11:16] <jenda> nikol: eeww.... Are you asking US about XP? No offence, but try asking in ##windows
[11:16] <nikol> but i can download the packages and install them to my pc
[11:16] <iKernel> I'll try CC=gcc-3.4.5
[11:16] <kemik> iKernel:  use the compiler that you've installed
[11:16] <jenda> nikol: oh I get it now. sorry.
[11:16] <nikol> no i say about ubuntu
[11:17] <nikol> :)
[11:17] <kemik> gc<tab> will give you a filename list
[11:17] <iKernel> kemik: yeah
[11:17] <iKernel> hmm k
[11:17] <iKernel> only gcc 4 there :(
[11:17] <jenda> nikol: that is rather difficult. You will need a complete list of packages + dependencies and then DL them all manually.
[11:17] <Nameeater> ikernel: nvidia drivers?
[11:17] <iKernel> this is gay, I've waited ages for this to compile
[11:17] <kemik> apt-get the version of gcc you need then
[11:18] <iKernel> Nameeater: nope
[11:18] <Nameeater> o
[11:18] <Nameeater> are you using sudo?
[11:18] <iKernel> kemik: No gcc-3.4.5 in the repos. There's gcc-3.4.4 tho
[11:18] <Ng> iKernel: there's no need to be homophobic
[11:18] <iKernel> Naeeater: Root prompt.
[11:18] <darkkyokusanagi> Where can i find a good guide for ubuntu breezy?
[11:18] <Nameeater> wierd :<
[11:18] <iKernel> Ng: What's homophobic?
[11:18] <s_spiff> crap! i couldn't install Linux DC++!
[11:18] <iKernel> :P
[11:18] <Ng> iKernel: "this is gay" - that's a really stupid insult
[11:19] <nikol> jenda: and what i must do???
[11:19] <iKernel> Ng: It wasn't an insult :)
[11:19] <Ng> either way it was irrelevant
[11:19] <iKernel> meh
[11:19] <iKernel> I'll install gcc-3.4.4 and hope it works.
[11:20] <Ng> what are you trying to do? compile a kernel module?
[11:20] <Ng> if so 3.4.4 is the right one
[11:20] <iKernel> Ng: ok
[11:20] <iKernel> even though my kernel was compiled with gcc-3.4.5? cool
[11:20] <kemik> it's gay = it's jolly
[11:20] <kemik> heh
[11:20] <Ng> if it's the ubuntu stock kernel then it was compiled with 3.4.4 :)
[11:20] <Ng> cat /proc/version
[11:21] <nikol> kaneis ellinas edw??
[11:21] <mikelo> i get this when i apt-cache search "Couldn't stat source package list"
[11:21] <jenda> well... my guess is that the best way to do this all is 1) write a list of all the stuff you want to install 2) check HOWTOs on all of them... 3) and when you get home, type sudo apt-get install <all the packages> and then apt will list all the packages that it will install. You should copy that and go download them all from the cafe...
[11:22] <ilba7r> mikelo, try sudo apt-get update first
[11:22] <mikelo> ok
[11:23] <iKernel> I like it how synaptic install locally :)
[11:23] <jenda> nikol: then you will need to put all these packages in the apt/cache directory or simply add the CD as a repo. Yeah that's better. then remove all the internet repos and run sudo apt-get update, and the install all the packages with the command you used before.
[11:23] <iKernel> instead of having to download stuff
[11:24] <odat> coz, still here?
[11:24] <jenda> nikol: and perhaps doing this with a live CD would be easier... try asking if they mind.
[11:25] <coz> cos is here sorry
[11:25] <coz> what is it odat
[11:25] <caugier> hi
[11:25] <iKernel> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[11:25] <iKernel> kernel?
[11:25] <odat> coz, did you see my message earlier about the kde channel
[11:25] <coz> no ididn't sorry I was in ubuntuforums
[11:25] <iKernel> Uh oh, does this mean I have to download kernel sources?
[11:25] <coz> what was it
[11:25] <nikol> i have and another prblm... i install apps,etc, and if it is not appears in the menu , i can't find and run this app!!!!
[11:26] <nikol> where is it??
[11:26] <caugier> does anyone have pointers on how to change the kernel in the livecd?
[11:26] <coz> nikol if you install debian menu you will see it
[11:26] <coz>  however go to places and search for files
[11:26] <odat> coz, i went in there and they tried to tell me you didn't have to pay to use Qt for commercial software and i posted this link http://www.trolltech.com/developer/faqs/index.html?catid=1953&id=159   and they banned me from commenting in the room lolololololol
[11:26] <nikol> i don't find them
[11:26] <coz> search in ust
[11:26] <kemik> iKernel:  yes probably
[11:27] <coz> odat hold on I will look
[11:27] <coz> nikol search in usr
[11:27] <nikol> i must install debian menu???
[11:27] <kemik> iKernel:  linux-headers-kernelversion
[11:27] <coz> no but do search for the application
[11:27] <limguohong91> Is it possible to install Photoshop CS 2 on Ubuntu?
[11:27] <iKernel> kemik: Got that installed. Where are the kernel headers installed to?
[11:27] <coz> under places search for files and lookin usr
[11:27] <odat> coz, oops sorry its this link http://www.trolltech.com/developer/faqs/index.html?catid=1953&id=179
[11:27] <nikol> and it says to me ...
[11:27] <nikol> empty
[11:27] <nikol> nothing
[11:27] <kemik> iKernel:  never looked...
[11:27] <iKernel> hmm
[11:28] <aeg> hmm
[11:28] <nnonix> How would I go about finding the version of an installed kernel module (ibm_acpi)?
[11:28] <coz> nikol you have search open
[11:28] <iKernel> found them i think
[11:28] <Ng> odat: software can be commercial and gpl, but this is all off-topic for here, you want #ubuntu-offtopic or another channel ;)
[11:28] <coz> you areon hoary so i assume it is the same as breezy for this
[11:28] <pornsurfer> i downloaded this:    http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb   where do i put it to run this:   sudo dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb
[11:29] <coz> odat I will have to look at this later
[11:29] <odat> coz, cool
[11:29] <odat> Ng, just letting everyone here know they made the right choice
[11:29] <coz> nikol did you open find files
[11:29] <kemik> pornsurfer:  in a terminal
[11:30] <coz> odat waht is this about?
[11:30] <Ng> odat: I expect there are plenty of KDE users here and that nobody feels the need for your validation of their choices, but ok ;)
[11:30] <coz>  I didn't read it yet
[11:30] <iKernel> *gulp* I need kernel-source package installed. There isn't one in repos for 2.6.12
[11:30] <pornsurfer> kemik, i tried typing that in a trtminal , and it says it cant find the file
[11:30] <kemik> pornsurfer:  dont have to put the file in a specific location aslong as your user can aceess it
[11:30] <iKernel> Where can I download the kernel sources?
[11:30] <kemik> pornsurfer:  make sure you're in the directory where you downloaded the .deb
[11:30] <coz> synaptic  ikernel
[11:30] <Ng> iKernel: there's a package called linux-source-2.6.12
[11:30] <pornsurfer> i am absolutely new to linix so, what exactly does that mean for me?
[11:30] <Glutinous> kernel.org
[11:30] <iKernel> Ng: Ah k
[11:30] <odat> Ng, sorry get a little proactive about things i believe in
[11:30] <Ng> iKernel: or there's linux-tree-2.6.12 which also grabs the ubuntu patches
[11:30] <iKernel> kk
[11:31] <nikol> synaptic yes
[11:31] <coz> what did you type pornsurfer
[11:31] <aeg> just did a install of ubunto   "boot: linux"   it didn't ask for a root paswd ... or did i miss something ?
[11:31] <nikol> ikernel nop
[11:31] <kemik> pornsurfer:  in what directory did you put the file ?
[11:31] <pornsurfer> kemik, desktop
[11:31] <coz> I am lost again
[11:31] <Ng> aeg: by default there is no root password, the account is disabled and you use "sudo" to perform root-level tasks
[11:31] <kemik> pornsurfer:  in a terminal do this: "cd ~/Desktop" "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb"
[11:31] <kemik> (where foo is the name of the file )
[11:31] <pornsurfer> kemik, thanks, i will try
[11:31] <burbz> anybody got a good java install tut for ubuntu? found some, but unable to track down java-package.
[11:32] <iKernel> Ng: ok, which one is recommended?
[11:32] <kemik> !tell burbz about java
[11:32] <kemik> !tell burbz about javadebs
[11:32] <Ng> iKernel: probably linux-tree-2.6.12
[11:32] <iKernel> k
[11:32] <jenda> nikol: you can always run thm through the command line
[11:32] <burbz> kemik: thanks alot
[11:33] <jenda> nikol: and you can usually find the executables in /bin /usr/bin /usr/share/bin etc.
[11:33] <coz> I have not slept, drinking coffee, and chewing on a peach cigar
[11:33] <victor3d> j2daosh: one more question to u?
[11:33] <coz> i am ready to help if I can
[11:33] <jenda> yo me too
[11:34] <victor3d> j2daosh: when i run ./configure for the Licq it says that X couldn't be found.... but it exists.... what to do??
[11:34] <s_spiff> anyone here tried installing LinuxDC++?
[11:34] <nikol> coz: :D
[11:34] <kemik> s_spiff:  mmh think it's the one im using
[11:34] <kemik> s_spiff:  there's a .deb for it
[11:34] <s_spiff> where?
[11:34] <pornsurfer> kemik, i tried that and all i got is    >
[11:34] <jenda> s_spiff I did...
[11:34] <coz> nikol :K
[11:34] <s_spiff>  i've been trying like a nut...i simply cant get one!
[11:34] <s_spiff>  wher can i get a .deb!
[11:35] <coz> thanks jenda
[11:35] <s_spiff>  jenda , where can i find a .deb of it?
[11:35] <nikol> the executables are in the bin's heh?
[11:35] <kemik> pornsurfer:  without the quotes right ?
[11:35] <nikol> mmmm
[11:35] <coz> s_spiff of what?
[11:35] <mikelo> i can't connect to my dsl provider with pppoeconfig
[11:35] <kemik> pornsurfer:  ctrl-c will escape you from the >
[11:35] <jenda> s_spiff: /dev/jenda is searching
[11:35] <pornsurfer> kemik, i dont know anything about this stuff yet.... can you type like i should do it ?
[11:36] <kemik> pornsurfer:  and dont use the "" ;)
[11:36] <iKernel> hmm, ubuntu don't come with wine.
[11:36] <victor3d> people howto make Licq program if ./configure says what i don't have X???
[11:36] <aeg> I'm loggedin as the default user from the install: sudo  and su - ask's for a password (sorry for the dump question)
[11:36] <nikol> and hah what is the extension for executables??
[11:36] <s_spiff> LinuxDC++
[11:36] <coz> nikol no extension to be seen
[11:36] <s_spiff> jenda and kemik have installed it...so askin them, wher i can find a .deb for it
[11:36] <iKernel> aeg: Just type in your password
[11:36] <pornsurfer> kemik, i will try without ""
[11:36] <kemik> pornsurfer:  in a terminal do this: "cd ~/Desktop<ENTER>" "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb<ENTER>" and no quotes! ;)
[11:36] <kemik> s_spiff:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42084&page=1&pp=10
[11:37] <aeg> iKernel: Ok sorry it works thx
[11:37] <pornsurfer> kemik, thanks !
[11:37] <coz> s_spiff here you go http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76643.html
[11:37] <iKernel> aeg: No problem.
[11:38] <LemLapLin> how do i install an app from source?
[11:38] <nikol> from where i can download xine????
[11:38] <coz> Ok people this coffe and cigar are really makeing me hyper, so I want to help even though i don't know aything
[11:38] <s_spiff> yeah kemik i tried it
[11:38] <kemik> LemLapLin:  you compile it
[11:38] <s_spiff>  didnt work
[11:38] <kemik> LemLapLin:  usually ./configure | make | make install
[11:38] <jenda> nikol: it's in the repos : xine-ui
[11:38] <LemLapLin> any wiki entries about it kemik ?
[11:38] <pornsurfer> kemik, it says it cannot find the file, is there a better place i can put it to do this other than desk?
[11:38] <kemik> LemLapLin:  and you'll need the build-essential package installed
[11:38] <kemik> !compile
[11:39] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[11:39] <coz> nikol sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[11:39] <victor3d> please please help me!! how to compile the program that says i don't have X but i have one!!!
[11:39] <coz> in the terminal
[11:39] <kemik> pornsurfer:  the location should not matter
[11:39] <kemik> pornsurfer:  type "ls"  and see if the file is there even
[11:39] <Glutinous> victor3d, you probably need to install the X11 development packages
[11:39] <s_spiff>  coz, thank you...i finally got the deb package!!! ya!
[11:39] <s_spiff> yay!*
[11:39] <coz> great
[11:39] <thoreauputic_> victor3d: not sure what you mean but try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:40] <pornsurfer> kemik, do i do this while i am in the desk directory?
[11:40] <kemik> pornsurfer:  yes
[11:40] <pornsurfer> kemik, ok , i appreciate the help
[11:40] <coz> thoreauputic_ type that into the terminal
[11:40] <nikol> ahhhhhhhh! i installed the totem but it needs plugins to play movies
[11:40] <kemik> pornsurfer:  'ls' lists files in a directory
[11:40] <nnonix> How would I go about finding the version of an installed kernel module (ibm_acpi)? Anyone?
[11:40] <thoreauputic_> coz: erm...
[11:40] <coz> nikol yes it does you want to get them
[11:40] <nikol> from?
[11:41] <thoreauputic_> coz: didi you mean that for victor3d ?
[11:41] <coz> hold on oepn the terminal
[11:41] <coz> therputic I really don't remember now
[11:41] <nikol> (sorry, but am newbie in linux)
[11:41] <pornsurfer> kemik, i did what you said and it found this on the desktop  :   libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb
[11:41] <coz> applications
[11:41] <pornsurfer> I beeez stumped
[11:41] <coz> accessories I think''
[11:41] <Pygi> freaky: ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping
[11:42] <kemik> pornsurfer:  and what are you typing when using dpkg ?
[11:42] <coz> nikol did you find it the terminal
[11:42] <Pygi> dpkg -i package.deb
[11:42] <pornsurfer> what you said to do earlier
[11:42] <pornsurfer> kemik, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb"
[11:42] <kemik> pornsurfer:  well, replace foo.deb with the actual filename ;)
[11:42] <pornsurfer> "actual filename"
[11:42] <pornsurfer> i did, sorry
[11:43] <iKernel> One problem after the next. >:(
[11:43] <pornsurfer> it didnt work
[11:43] <coz> guys in hoary is the terminal under applications /accessories
[11:43] <ludi> How do I get greek text to show up in Greek letters instead of characters that look like boxes with numbers and letters in them?
[11:43] <kemik> hmmmmmm.. that should work
[11:43] <Ng> the quickest way to install libdvdcss is: sudo apt-get install libdvdread3 ; sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[11:43] <ludi> How do I get greek text to show up in Greek letters instead of characters that look like boxes with numbers and letters in them?
[11:43] <nikol> ludi ellinas??
[11:43] <ludi> sorry for double-post
[11:43] <kemik> pornsurfer:  take Ng's advice.. im of to eat
[11:43] <jenda> s_spiff: You said you tried the howto on the fora?
[11:43] <ludi> nikol:  what?
[11:43] <coz> nikol did you open the terminal?
[11:43] <pornsurfer> kemik, thanks for the help !
[11:44] <sorush20> what is the command for adding a line to a file?
[11:44] <nikol> nop i can't i'm running xp :(
[11:44] <kemik> pornsurfer:  np, just keep trying :)
[11:44] <coz> oh that's right
[11:44] <thoreauputic_> sorush20: echo "your line here" >> file
[11:44] <coz> i don't know anything but I will help you anyway
[11:44] <iKernel> bah, I'll just change vermagic.h to version.h
[11:44] <thoreauputic_> sorush20: if I understood you correctly
[11:44] <sorush20> thoreauputic what about tee
[11:45] <pornsurfer> Ng,  i did that and it returned this :   0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 478 not upgraded.
[11:45] <thoreauputic_> sorush20:  tee -a  (adds rather than clobbering the file)
[11:45] <pornsurfer> Ng, what does this mean>?
[11:45] <jawshoewah> preface....i know that most of you hate helping noobs with simple procedures butincase someone has some patience left...
[11:45] <Ng> pornsurfer: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[11:45] <Ng> pornsurfer: you probably missed that bit
[11:45] <coz> jawshoewah what is up
[11:45] <thoreauputic_> sorush20: you pipe through tee -->  echo foo | tee -a file
[11:46] <jawshoewah> howto do anunzip?
[11:46] <pornsurfer> Ng, i miss everything, i am new !
[11:46] <s_spiff> yeah
[11:46] <s_spiff>  didnt work for me..jenda
[11:46] <sorush20> thoreauputic interesting
[11:46] <coz> jawshoewah anunzip
[11:46] <jenda> s_spiff: I have no idea then...
[11:46] <jawshoewah> I was on the ubuntu forum I found a mmorpg that was in Native
[11:46] <iKernel> m
[11:46] <coz> you mean unzip something
[11:46] <jawshoewah> anunzip is the command?
[11:46] <sorush20> thoreauputic I think I'm gonna like command line.. if only it had predictive abilities
[11:46] <s_spiff> in windows I could set a certain ip for my pc
[11:46] <ilba7r> thoreauputic, hi how are you.
[11:46] <s_spiff>  how to do that in linux?
[11:46] <s_spiff> i'
[11:46] <s_spiff> i'm using pppoe
[11:46] <iKernel> take hammer to this program in a minute!!
[11:47] <burbz> this java crap is making me wanna kill somebody.. it WONT install java-package, so im pretty much fucked. have added the main restrictive universe multiverse through adept gui, but it refuses to work.
[11:47] <jenda> Anyone know why my kernel won't upgrade to 2.6.12-10 and is stuck at -9?
[11:47] <thoreauputic_> !javadeb
[11:47] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/
[11:47] <coz> bubz you want help
[11:47] <jawshoewah> coz: an unzip
[11:47] <pornsurfer> Ng, is this normal?     warning: downgrading libdvdcss2 from 1.2.9-1 to 1.2.5-1.
[11:47] <coz> right click and expand here
[11:47] <burbz> coz, you talking to me?
[11:47] <coz> burbz yes
[11:48] <burbz> coz, yes please
[11:48] <iKernel> jenda: :D I'm pretty sure 2.6.12 comes with ubuntu-breezy
[11:48] <Ng> pornsurfer: that probably means you had installed the other version you downloaded, but it shouldn't matter
[11:48] <coz> ok I will send you the official sun java hold on
[11:48] <iKernel> jenda: 2.6.12-10 sorry
[11:48] <jawshoewah> wow that filled my desktop pretty good
[11:48] <coz> burbz are you running breezy?
[11:48] <pornsurfer> Ng, thats a wonder, i thought i DIDNT install it....
[11:48] <Ng> jenda: what does a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" say? (please use a pastebin for the output)
[11:48] <s_spiff> need help! hey is there somehthing like a GUI for adding extra ip's ad..or gateways..or subnet masks?
[11:48] <burbz> coz, i've got the jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin, and im running breezy, 5.10 or something
[11:49] <pornsurfer> Ng, thanks for the help !
[11:49] <Ng> pornsurfer: no probs :)
[11:49] <coz> Ok put the packae into your home folder
[11:49] <blue-frog> s_spiff, to what?
[11:49] <jenda> iKernel: well apt-get most definitely downgraded mine, then... it's at -9
[11:49] <burbz> coz, could we do this in msg?
[11:49] <jawshoewah> i just made a folder now put that in home?
[11:49] <Seveas> coz, install java-package from multiverse and use make-jpkg to turn the .bin into a .deb which you can install
[11:49] <coz> you mean i private?
[11:49] <jenda> Ng: is it safe to do that?
[11:49] <coz> I will try
[11:50] <burbz> Seveas: i've tried that one, but it cant find java-package, i've added the respotitories
[11:50] <s_spiff> blue-frog  in windows i could right click on my connectiong say properties/... >TCP/IP and then add ip add, dns servers..anyways in linux to do it?
[11:50] <burbz> coz, yes, private
[11:50] <jawshoewah> what would the command chmod to 775 do?
[11:50] <blue-frog> s_spiff, system>adminstration>network
[11:50] <xored> is there a way to get xchat tunning with a psybnc ?
[11:50] <s_spiff> ok..then?
[11:50] <coz> well I am trying it is waiting for you it says
[11:50] <Ng> jenda: should be, yes
[11:50] <aeg> s_spiff: thats all set in /etc/network/interfaces ...    but i don't know about pppoe
[11:51] <Pygi> coz: the dcc doesnt work lately :PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPppppppp
[11:51] <Pygi> xchat problems
[11:51] <coz> burbz hold on I will send you the .deb package
[11:51] <Seveas> !info java-package
[11:51] <ubotu> java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.26 (breezy), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[11:51] <burbz> okay, thanks
[11:51] <Seveas> it's there though :)
[11:51] <Pygi> oh, seveas is back :P
[11:51] <burbz> i dont think that java-package likes me
[11:51] <Seveas> Pygi, indeed. Beware
[11:51] <mikelo> hi how do i update my jdk and jre to 1.5?
[11:51] <pornsurfer> Ng, Thank you !!! it is playing my dvd now !
[11:51] <Seveas> !tell mikelo about javadebs
[11:52] <Pygi> Seveas: yes, now I shall be kick/banned forever :P
[11:52] <Seveas> burbz, you can also grab a pre-cooked java .deb file
[11:52] <Ng> pornsurfer: :)
[11:52] <burbz> Seveas: from adept/apt-get?
[11:52] <Pygi> ubotu tell bubrz about javadebs
[11:52] <pornsurfer> <----    :)
[11:52] <Seveas> burbz, yep
[11:52] <burbz> its the wrong version, just 1.4.2
[11:52] <supernoob> chmod to 775?????????
[11:52] <Seveas> burbz, you need another repository ;)
[11:53] <burbz> indeed i do
[11:53] <Seveas> !tell burbz about javadebs
[11:53] <dorto> which version of ubuntu is being sent by 'shipit' currently? breezy badger?
[11:53] <Seveas> dorto, correct
[11:53] <Pygi> seveas, ubotu told him that laready :P
[11:53] <Pygi> read up :P
[11:53] <dorto> k, thx
[11:53] <superannoyingnoo> is chmod to 775 a command?
[11:53] <Seveas> superannoyingnoo, yes
[11:53] <Pygi> chmod 775 is command
[11:53] <geokker> guys, Ubuntu open office Impress, how do I anti-alias shapes?
[11:53] <superannoyingnoo> cool ty
[11:53] <pornsurfer> Ng, heres one more:  how can i make ubuntu use my other attached monitor as the primary?
[11:53] <blue-frog> superannoyingnoo, man chmod
[11:53] <superannoyingnoo> k
[11:53] <geokker> they are horrifically jaggy a la 1982
[11:53] <Ng> pornsurfer: what kind of graphics card(s) do you have?
[11:53] <pornsurfer> i have nvidia ti4400
[11:53] <coz> burbz hold on it is uploading
[11:54] <superannoyingnoo> man hardely ever works for the progs I like
[11:54] <superannoyingnoo> usually nothing in them
[11:54] <Pygi> surfer: installed drivers?
[11:54] <Ng> pornsurfer: with two monitors connected to that single card? you can use both monitors if you want :)
[11:54] <coz> burbz actually you already have the one package lets go from there
[11:54] <pornsurfer> Ng, i use them both with XP, but i dont know how with ubuntu :(
[11:54] <burbz> coz, got the .bin file from java.sun.com
[11:54] <coz> burbz in a terminal type the folowing
[11:54] <burbz> coz, as root or regular user
[11:54] <burbz> ?
[11:55] <coz> burbz chmod +x jre-1 wahtever your file name is
[11:55] <r0sk> hi ppl
[11:55] <coz> root
[11:55] <Ng> pornsurfer: I wrote a quick description of how I did it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaMultipleMonitors
[11:55] <burbz> done
[11:55] <xored> is there a way to get xchat tunning with a psybnc ?
[11:55] <burbz> coz, and its a jdk package
[11:55] <r0sk> is there any backport to install java-1.5 on hoary please?
[11:55] <ludi> How do I get greek text to show up in Greek letters instead of characters that look like boxes with numbers and letters in them?
[11:55] <coz> ok hold on
[11:55] <Ng> pornsurfer: start reading at "Quick and dirty guide to using nVidia TwinView"
[11:55] <carlos_> jo
[11:55] <coz> you want the whole shebang
[11:56] <jenda> Ng: yuck.... reminds me of QDOS
[11:56] <burbz> yes, need the javac command and all
[11:56] <ubuntu> bah
[11:56] <pornsurfer> Ng, awesome! i will give it a read .   also, do you know why when i set my monitors to be centered with XP , the screen is offset with ubuntu? tghis is weird, and the primary monitor is switched
[11:56] <burbz> coz, we're compiling java scripts via term
[11:56] <vagegast> ubuntu refuses to mount my hdd :(
[11:56] <bimberi> r0sk: http://www.giannaros.org/buntu/hoary/i386/
[11:57] <Ng> pornsurfer: it's probably picked slightly different default refresh rates, you might be able to set them to the same as XP with the Screen Resolution tool in System->Preferences
[11:57] <Pygi> vegavest: what hdd? /etc/fstab?
[11:57] <coz> V ok guy
[11:57] <Glutinous> pornsurfer, try using the official nvidia drivers too
[11:57] <coz> burbz ok guy
[11:57] <pornsurfer> Ng, nt know how to install the nvidia drivers
[11:58] <ludi> How do I set my locale?
[11:58] <Pygi> ubotu tell pornsurfer about nvidia
[11:58] <pornsurfer> Shaweeeee!!
[11:59] <r0sk> bimberi: thanks a lot!
[11:59] <pornsurfer> Ng, i will try to do the nvidia drivers now
[11:59] <Ng> pornsurfer: yeah, make sure you have the nvidia drivers working fine first :)
[11:59] <burbz> coz, need to get the whole java-package thingy to work, or else i cant do shit
[11:59] <bimberi> r0sk: np :)
[11:59] <coz> I am still waiting for the upload to finish
[11:59] <coz> burbz hold on
[11:59] <burbz> okay
[11:59] <Krishnautix> hey I installed xipmsg, a lan messenger, wanted to know, how to add it to my Applications Menu?
[12:00] <burbz> coz, ill hold, no problem.
[12:00] <pornsurfer> Ng, i will be at this one a while i think ;)
[12:00] <nikol> i have log in as administrator but it says that i have no permission to write etc to many folders and files.. how i can get the permission to do everything???
[12:00] <jenda> Ng: I'm apting something that'll take a long time, so I'll run the dist upgrade then. I'll be back! :)
[12:00] <Ng> pornsurfer: it's pretty easy if you follow the wiki instructions :)
[12:00] <coz>  you can always automatix
[12:00] <Ng> jenda: ok
[12:00] <thoreauputic_> !automatix
[12:00] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[12:00] <burbz> coz, automatix?
[12:00] <coz> V yes hold on that is smaller
[12:00] <superannoyingnoo> would chmod 775 be a valid argument?
[12:01] <burbz> superannoyingnoo: yes, if you apply it to a folder or a file
[12:01] <bimberi> superannoyingnoo: yes, for example "chmod 775 file"
[12:01] <coz> burbz http://rapidshare.de/files/8990420/automatix-ubuntu_v3.4.8.tar.gz.html
[12:01] <nikol> i have log in as administrator but it says that i have no permission to write etc to many folders and files.. how i can get the permission to do everything???
[12:01] <superannoyingnoo> file being the name of the file?
[12:02] <vagegast> type sudo -s -H
[12:02] <bimberi> superannoyingnoo: yes (or directory)
[12:02] <thoreauputic_> !tell nikol about sudo
[12:02] <burbz> coz, can i apt-get automatix?
[12:02] <coz> burbz tell me when you have it
[12:02] <coz> NO
[12:02] <coz> can you get that url
[12:02] <burbz> downloading
[12:02] <burbz> done
[12:02] <jenda> !tell burbz about automatix
[12:03] <coz> ok right click and extract here
[12:03] <redguy> nikol: what do you mean by "i have log in as administrator" ?
[12:03] <coz> some people don't like automatix burbz
[12:03] <jenda> coz...
[12:03] <thoreauputic_> coz: for good reasons
[12:03] <redguy> jenda: coz it might break things
[12:03] <coz> burbz lthoreauputic and redguy
[12:03] <burbz> i just want my java JDK to work
[12:04] <jenda> redguy no need telling me :(
[12:04] <coz> I have NEVER had anything machine or install break because of this
[12:04] <thoreauputic_> coz: which proves absolutely nothing
[12:04] <coz>  burbz it is up to you
[12:04] <redguy> jenda: erm, got a little bit confused there :-)
[12:04] <jenda> coz: we've had MANY reinstalls in #ubuntu because of aut'x
[12:04] <Pygi> !automatix
[12:04] <ubotu> [automatix]  messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[12:04] <burbz> coz, lets doo it
[12:04] <coz> OK burbz right click and extract here
[12:04] <burbz> coz, done
[12:05] <coz> V ok open the file
[12:05] <thoreauputic_> *sigh*
[12:05] <burbz> coz, im in the folder
[12:05] <coz> look for the instll sh and click it and run
[12:05] <jenda> Seveas: I wasn't allowed to promote easyubuntu and automatix pushing is OK???
[12:05] <burbz> jenda, have you got a better way for making my jdk work, let me know
[12:06] <coz>  hold on
[12:06] <coz> guys I do this for a living residential and coporate installs
[12:06] <Seveas> coz, NEVER promote automatix in here
[12:06] <thoreauputic_> coz: so what ?
[12:06] <coz> NEVER a break on any machine commercial or built
[12:06] <Seveas> it is broken, stupid and horrible
[12:06] <Seveas> nxt time will be properly rewarded.
[12:06] <nikol> i have install themes but i can't find them from themes...
[12:07] <coz> well we have started already
[12:07] <Ng> burbz: the best way to install a jdk is to follow the Sun Java instructions on the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[12:07] <burbz> that 'make your own' .deb package of the jdk seemed like a good tutorial, but without the java-package file im lost
[12:07] <Seveas> jenda, pushing automatix is very much NOT ok
[12:07] <vagegast> is there a linux command i could give to format a ntfs HDD containing my old XP bootdrive
[12:07] <coz> yes it is
[12:07] <Ng> burbz: you will turn the .bin download into a .deb and install it in very few steps :)
[12:07] <Seveas> bye coz
[12:07] <burbz> Ng, that 'make your own' .deb package of the jdk seemed like a good tutorial, but without the java-package file im lost
[12:07] <Seveas> we try to help people here, not help them break their system
[12:07] <nikol> i have install themes but i can't find them from themes...
[12:07] <Ng> burbz: java-package is a package in ubuntu, you can get it with "sudo apt-get install java-package", you may need to enable the Multiverse repository first though
[12:07] <nikol> any idea?
[12:08] <vagegast> break their systems? mine is already broken why the h*ll else would i be on ubuntu live cd
[12:08] <burbz> Ng, yeah, i went through the howto that someone gave me, added the multiverse repository, but it still wouldnt work
[12:08] <thoreauputic_> nikol: how did you install them? And have you looked in the "details" tabs ?
[12:08] <Seveas> burbz, put your sources.list on the pastebin
[12:09] <Seveas> let's see if you added it correctly
[12:09] <Pygi> yup, it's probably in details
[12:09] <burbz> Seveas: dumb question, but how do i do that?
[12:09] <vagegast> hmmmz
[12:09] <Ng> it's not a dumb question :)
[12:09] <Pygi> !pastebin
[12:09] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:09] <thoreauputic_> nikol: if it was a tarball, you can install by drag-drop onto the themes dialogue
[12:09] <Pygi> and sources.list is here: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:09] <Seveas> burbz, open the file in a text editor and paste the contents on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:10] <Pygi> Seveas: huh, I posted it already :P
[12:10] <Pygi> to be precise, ubotu did :P
[12:10] <burbz> okay, hold on :)
[12:10] <nikol> i install apps etc and i can't find the executable to run!
[12:11] <burbz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6882
[12:11] <burbz> there you go
[12:11] <Pygi> k, lookin'
[12:11] <Seveas> burbz, dif you do an apt-get update after editing that file?
[12:11] <thoreauputic_> nikol: which apps? You can find the executable by running  dpkg -L <packagename> | grep bin  (usually)
[12:11] <burbz> Seveas: no
[12:12] <Seveas> burbz, then do :)
[12:12] <Pygi> huh, ran that :p
[12:12] <Pygi> sudo apt-get update
[12:12] <burbz> and then apt-get install java-package?
[12:12] <Seveas> burbz, the file is still incomplet though, look at paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 for a more complete one
[12:12] <s_spiff> finally!
[12:13] <nbound> everytime i install ubuntu x-64 it will boot to a black screen and freeze
[12:13] <burbz> Seveas: so i can add more mirrors to the list? not just have .no mirrors?
[12:13] <s_spiff> hey people, i need help aghain...
[12:13] <Pygi> nbound: dapper?
[12:14] <nbound> dapper?
[12:14] <s_spiff>  i just installed xipmsg [ a lan msngr]  and i cant c it in the menu, though i installed it via syanptic
[12:14] <burbz> Setting up java-package (0.26) ...
[12:14] <burbz> :DD
[12:14] <Seveas> burbz, no paste 6047 is a complete replacement for what you have, just change www.archive into no.archive for the nrsk mirrors
[12:14] <Pygi> burbz: :P
[12:14] <flodine> anyone have pci express on ubuntu?
[12:15] <Pygi> flodine: issues?
[12:15] <nbound> Pygi: dapper?? :S
[12:15] <burbz> Seveas: ah, i see
[12:15] <Pygi> ubotu tell nbound about dapper
[12:15] <burbz> and after getting java-package installed, i just follow the howto?
[12:15] <s_spiff> brb
[12:15] <Pygi> do you have dapper or what?
[12:15] <nbound> nope
[12:15] <nbound> 5.10
[12:16] <Ng> burbz: yep
[12:16] <Seveas> burbz, the 'howto' is: fakeroot make-jpkg bla.bin && sudo dpkg -i bla.deb
[12:16] <Seveas> :)
[12:16] <Pygi> huh, that x64 has a lot of problems :P
[12:16] <thoreauputic_> burbz: yes - make sure you have the right java file of course
[12:16] <flodine> Pygi so dont get one pciexpress
[12:16] <Pygi> seveas: you are faking howto's
[12:16] <Seveas> (of course replace 'bla' with the appropriate filename)
[12:16] <nbound> Pygi: what one should i use
[12:16] <nbound> get dapper before its released perhaps?
[12:16] <Pygi> nbound: does the 32 bit ubuntu does same?
[12:16] <burbz> Seveas: okay, and should I run this from /usr/local/ or whereever?
[12:16] <Pygi> nbound: u can try :P
[12:16] <thoreauputic_> Seveas: bla: file not found *grin*
[12:17] <Pygi> lol, don't write "bla"
[12:17] <Seveas> burbz, n'importe ou
[12:17] <licre|AFK> bla
[12:17] <nbound> Pygi: dont wanna spend another 7hrs dloading ubuntu 32bit
[12:17] <Seveas> (wherever)
[12:17] <burbz> hehe, okay
[12:17] <Pygi> Seveas: see what happens? :P
[12:17] <Seveas> bla :p
[12:17] <licre|AFK> bra
[12:17] <Pygi> nbound: you can order one :P
[12:17] <Pygi> Seveas: bla :p
[12:17] <Seveas>  /nick bla
[12:18] <thoreauputic_> Pygi: I was kidding in cse you missed the *grin* ;-)
[12:18] <licre|AFK> bala
[12:18] <nbound> Pygi:  that cost money and time :-( :P
[12:18] <licre|AFK> triva!
[12:18] <Pygi> nbound: no ubuntu ships medias for free
[12:18] <burbz> seveas: i get an error when trying apt-get update / sudo apt-get update now, with that example file
[12:18] <Seveas> nbound, ubuntu cd's are free
[12:18] <nbound> even to australia???
[12:18] <Seveas> burbz, errors at the pastebin
[12:19] <Seveas> nbound, worldwide
[12:19] <Pygi> nbound: even to australia
[12:19] <burbz> roger that, hold
[12:19] <nbound> jebus
[12:19] <Seveas> nbound, http://shipit.ubuntu.com
[12:19] <thoreauputic_> nbound: I'm in .au and I got mine a while ago :)
[12:19] <burbz> i think i made a mistake when adding no. to all the mirrors
[12:19] <nbound> thoreauputic_: how long does it take?
[12:19] <liable> adding no?
[12:19] <thoreauputic_> nbound: 4 to 6 weeks
[12:20] <licre|AFK> Is there a special version for .au?
[12:20] <Seveas> burbz, put all the error output on the pastebin and we'll see :)
[12:20] <nbound> hmmm :-/
[12:20] <thoreauputic_> licre|AFK: why would there be?
[12:20] <nbound> licre|AFK:  i cant see why there would be...
[12:20] <Seveas> licre|AFK, yeah, the "G'day mate" version ;)
[12:20] <UncleD> If I want to give ownership to /home/www/* to all users in group "www" what is the proper chown syntax - I want to make sure they own
[12:20] <UncleD> all files following /www/
[12:20] <burbz> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6883
[12:20] <licre|AFK> Gee?
[12:20] <Seveas> UncleD, chown -R :www /var/www/*
[12:20] <UncleD> gracias
[12:20] <thoreauputic_> Seveas: that's the PPC version - the i386 version is the "no worries" version ;)
[12:21] <nbound> hehe
[12:21] <Seveas> burbz, there is no 'no.security.ubuntu.com', that should simply be 'security.ubuntu.com'
[12:21] <UncleD> Seveas: what would case this error: www is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
[12:21] <nbound> he'll spend all this week wondering what "no worries" even means ;-)
[12:21] <burbz> Seveas: but other than that it looks good?
[12:21] <Seveas> UncleD, user www can't use sudo
[12:21] <UncleD> ah
[12:21] <Seveas> only the user you created during the install can do that
[12:22] <Seveas> burbz, yes
[12:22] <burbz> Seveas: it worked
[12:22] <pornsurfer> Ng, i managed to do something wrong. Now ubuntu wont boot, i have no gui. where should i start to fix this?
[12:23] <UncleD> Seveas: Ok, I performed that command and it properly assigned all files in the directory structure /var/www/ to group www - however, a user in my group cannot delete them (is this because they also belong to userid www?)
[12:23] <Ng> pornsurfer: how far does it get into booting?
[12:23] <neoxite> hi, i installed ubuntu 5.10 with server-expert, and now i want to install the usplash loader, but i can't figure out how to get it to display the splashscreen
[12:23] <UncleD> -rw-r--r-- 1 www www 458399 2006-01-10 02:19 testfile.tar.gz
[12:23] <Seveas> UncleD, is that user in the www group?
[12:23] <UncleD> The user www isn't in the www group
[12:23] <UncleD> but the user im trying to delete the file with is
[12:23] <Seveas> well, that explains :)
[12:23] <Seveas> UncleD, ah
[12:24] <Seveas> UncleD, chmod -R g+w /var/www/*
[12:24] <UncleD> is there some kind of conflict?
[12:24] <Seveas> (to make it all group-writable)
[12:24] <neoxite> my kernel does have the 'splash' option set, and it's using the vesafb framebuffer
[12:24] <pornsurfer> Ng, it gets pretty far, then says something about X ... i am not really sure what i did wrong. I was trying to install the nvidia drivers. any way to undo what i did? i tried recovery mode, but i dont know any commands
[12:24] <thoreauputic_> UncleD: you need group writable as Seveas says
[12:24] <nbound> Pygi: would using kubuntu instead fix my prob?
[12:24] <Ng> pornsurfer: you can boot into recovery mode and run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" - that will reconfigure X and that should fix it
[12:24] <UncleD> aha
[12:25] <burbz> Seveas: it seems to be working now, but i had to run it as a regular user, will this not make the installation global?
[12:25] <s_spiff> hello..need help..
[12:25] <neoxite> anybody know how else is nesessary for usplash to work, maybe some lines in the initrd?
[12:25] <Pygi> nbound: nop
[12:25] <nbound> damn
[12:25] <pornsurfer> Ng, thanks!  i will try that. gotta reboot.
[12:26] <Seveas> neoxite, 'splash' in the kernel commandline and maybe a dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[12:27] <neoxite> Seveas, ok, i'll try dpkg-reconfigure, is that going to modify the init-ramdisk?
[12:28] <UncleD> Seveas: very small paste - http://rafb.net/paste/results/siIynt90.html
[12:28] <Seveas> yes
[12:28] <elyoenai> hi there
[12:28] <Seveas> UncleD, that's in /home/www not /var/www
[12:28] <elyoenai> I need some help with my keyboard
[12:28] <UncleD> why should it make a difference Seveas?
[12:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> elyoenai: Sure.. what's the problem?
[12:29] <Seveas> UncleD, nothing, misread the rest :)
[12:29] <elyoenai> I cannot type the "at" symbol or other third level symbols
[12:29] <UncleD> Seveas: any idea what's going on there?
[12:29] <Seveas> UncleD, hmm, I don't get it..
[12:29] <nbound> so shipit is definately free :S
[12:29] <elyoenai> I have tried to change the keyboard third level features but wasn't able
[12:30] <noaki> Hi! Can sb help me with the ati driver installation? I found an error in the "Xorg.0.log after configuring the "xorg.conf"
[12:30] <UncleD> Seveas: One thing to notice is that the user 'www' owns the file, yet the user 'www' is not a member of /etc/group (^_^) - any thoughts?
[12:30] <Seveas> UncleD, what's the output of 'id'?
[12:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> elyoenai: Have you tried changing the keyboard ruleset?  System -> preferences -> keyboard ?
[12:30] <UncleD> ah..
[12:30] <Seveas> if 'www' is not in there, try in a new terminal :)
[12:30] <UncleD> I see the problem now :)
[12:30] <UncleD> good fix :)
[12:30] <UncleD> logged in/ logged out, problem solved
[12:31] <elyoenai> yep I have tried changing the distribution options. U meant that?
[12:31] <UncleD> Ok you earned your @ for the day!
[12:31] <elyoenai> but I get an error
[12:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> elyoenai: What's the error?
[12:31] <Seveas> hehe :)
[12:31] <burbz> another problem has occured, cant run a java installer as root, but it works fine as regular user, just echos lots of errors when i try..
[12:32] <Seveas> burbz, haw are you running the installer?
[12:32] <burbz> ./file
[12:32] <burbz> after chmod +x'n it
[12:32] <Seveas> don't
[12:32] <Pygi> Seveas: I got a new thingy yesterday that needs to be done... guess in what "language"/framework I am doing it :)
[12:32] <Seveas> it's: fakeroot make-jpkg bla.bin
[12:33] <Seveas> Pygi, brainfuck?
[12:33] <Seveas> (yes, that is a language...)
[12:33] <burbz> Seveas: no, its not the java installation anymore, its a program for linux
[12:33] <elyoenai> error activating XKB due to some kind of error in libxklavier or in X server (xkbcomp, xmodmap utilities) or X server with an incompatible libxkbfile implementation
[12:33] <Seveas> burbz, ah :)
[12:33] <joachim-n> what does "bash: alias: policy: not found
[12:33] <joachim-n> " mean?
[12:34] <Seveas> joachim-n, probably an error in your .bashrc :)
[12:34] <burbz> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6884
[12:34] <UncleD> Seveas: How can i make my bashrc leet?
[12:34] <renedox> rm -rf ~/.bashrc --leet
[12:34] <UncleD> sweet
[12:35] <Ng> err
[12:35] <elyoenai> maybe it is usuful to know that I have a Compaq R4000 notebook
[12:35] <UncleD> hey why cant i login to my machine now!
[12:35] <Seveas> UncleD, echo 'echo 1337' >> ~/.bashrc
[12:35] <Ng> renedox: that might be "funny", but it's really not useful
[12:35] <Pygi> Seveas: huh, ok, I won't talk to you anymore then..........
[12:35] <Seveas> Pygi, ?
[12:35] <renedox> Ng: well, I don't think he's really going to do it
[12:36] <UncleD> how do i get back my old .bashrc
[12:36] <Seveas> burbz, as normal user run this: sudo ./bla
[12:36] <Ng> renedox: how wonderful for you, let's hope he thinks that too and everyone else reading
[12:36] <Pygi> Seveas: nvm
[12:36] <renedox> Ng: :|
[12:36] <renedox> Ng: that just took the fun out of everything...
[12:36] <burbz> Seveas: but if i run it as a normal user i cant install it to /usr/local/
[12:36] <Seveas> Pygi, did you ever use brainfuck or whitespace?
[12:36] <burbz> oh, i see, nevermind
[12:37] <Seveas> burbz, that's where the sudo comes in: that makes it run as root in the users environment (ie: with working X)
[12:37] <burbz> ah, learned something new today then :)
[12:37] <Pygi> Seveas: no, whatever that is....
[12:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> elyoenai: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75052.html and http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15372 seem to offer an explanation and a solution for your problem.
[12:38] <redguy> Pygi: obscure programming languages
[12:38] <Seveas> Pygi, they're evil programming languages you should google them for fun :)
[12:38] <joachim-n> do spaces on the RHS of an alias command in the bash profile need to be quoted or escaped?
[12:38] <s_spiff> boss, someone help!
[12:38] <Seveas> joachim-n, yes
[12:38] <s_spiff>  i just installed xipmg via synaptic
[12:38] <joachim-n> eg alias isinstalled=apt-cache policy
[12:38] <s_spiff>  and i cant c the icon in my App. Menu
[12:38] <s_spiff>  any way to add it there?
[12:38] <joachim-n> should be: alias isinstalled="apt-cache policy"
[12:38] <Seveas> joachim-n, alias foo="ls -al 'something with spaces'"
[12:38] <joachim-n> ok thanks :)
[12:39] <elyoenai> thanx a lot I'll have a look
[12:39] <Pygi> Seveaas: huh :/ I'd rather stick to "regular" languages
[12:39] <Seveas> s_spiff, applications -> system tools -> menu editor
[12:39] <elyoenai> PuMpErNiCkLe, thanx a lot I'll have a look
[12:39] <Seveas> Pygi, /me too
[12:39] <Seveas> but it's fun to know about them
[12:39] <UncleD> Seveas, are you using dapper?
[12:39] <s_spiff> ok
[12:40] <Seveas> UncleD, not yet
[12:40] <nikol> who is the best dvd-player, mp3 player and mpg,avi player ???
[12:40] <renedox> vlc
[12:40] <renedox> videolan.org
[12:41] <Seveas> xine*
[12:41] <noaki> Hi! Can somebody help me to solve a problem with my ati driver?
[12:41] <alvint> noaki: maybe
[12:41] <Seveas> !tell noaki about somebody
[12:41] <Seveas> !tell noaki about someone
[12:41] <s_spiff> Seveas, but even in the menu editor i cant see the program
[12:41] <noaki> yes
[12:41] <noaki> so..
[12:41] <nikol> seveas where i can find the plugins for xine?
[12:42] <s_spiff> in installed via synaptic, so i don't exactly know where it got installed
[12:42] <Seveas> s_spiff, bad luck then, you need to create the .desktop file yourself
[12:42] <Seveas> (or just run it from the terminal
[12:42] <Seveas> )
[12:42] <noaki> i loaded new kernel headers and after doing step by step of a tutorial i configured the xorg.conf with an auto script
[12:42] <s_spiff> ok
[12:42] <noaki> then i had to check the Xorg.0.log for errors
[12:42] <noaki> and i found an fglrx error
[12:42] <noaki> (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[12:43] <s_spiff> Seveas, when we install a program, where is it installed as such?
[12:43] <Seveas> s_spiff, all over the system
[12:43] <Seveas> s_spiff, linux uses functional folders, not per-program folders
[12:43] <Seveas> ie: /usr/share/applications contains all menu entries, /usr/lib all libraries and /usr/bin all executables and so on...
[12:44] <s_spiff> hmmm
[12:44] <s_spiff>  i used 'Locate' command, but can't find it..
[12:44] <renedox> uptime
[12:44] <renedox>  00:45:00 up 1 day,  9:20,  2 users,  load average: 0.19, 0.49, 0.58
[12:44] <Seveas> s_spiff, the locate database is only updated daily
[12:45] <thoreauputic_> s_spiff: try  dpkg -L <packagename>
[12:45] <Seveas> s_spiff, try: dpkg -L $packagename
[12:45] <Seveas> !lart thoreauputic
[12:45] <thoreauputic_> Seveas: here i got in ahead : by one second ;)
[12:46] <blue-frog> s_spiff, look in synaptic at the installed files tab, it will tell you what it installed and where
[12:46] <alvint> noaki: the only thing you should need to do is install the 'xorg-driver-fglrx' package in synaptic and change the 'Driver' reference in your 'xorg.conf'  to 'fglrx'. did you try that?
[12:47] <s_spiff> achha ok..
[12:47] <alvint> noaki: you may also want to verify the appropriate 'linux-restricted-modules' package for your kernel is installed (it should be).
[12:47] <noaki> no i will try
[12:48] <noaki> alvint: but how to change the 'driver reference' ?
[12:48] <renedox> does anyone here run k3b and is able to help me with it?
[12:48] <phos-phoros> "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx ; fglrxconfig" works to?
[12:48] <noaki> alvint: sorry i started using ubuntu today :)
[12:48] <s_spiff> blue-frog, where is the Installed Files tab?
[12:48] <s_spiff>  cant c it
[12:49] <alvint> noaki: are you using Breezy or Dapper?
[12:49] <phos-phoros> noaki, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:49] <noaki> alvint: breezy
[12:50] <blue-frog> s_spiff, right click on installed package > properties
[12:51] <nikol> when i try to install a package i got the error about gcc.. what i must to do?
[12:51] <alvint> noaki: in file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf', go to the section that starts with: Section "Device"
[12:52] <nikol> gcc=no c=no and something about compiler
[12:52] <phos-phoros> nikol, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:52] <s_spiff> blue-frog .. ok i sound retarded..but i cant find installed packages it self
[12:52] <alvint> noaki: under that, change the line that starts with 'Device' to read 'Device "fglrx"'...
[12:52] <noaki> ok i now install xorg-driver-fglrx in synaptic
[12:53] <blue-frog> s_spiff, synaptic?
[12:53] <Seveas> !tell nikol about compiling
[12:53] <noaki> then i will change that line
[12:53] <ludi> is this the latest ubuntu ubuntu-5.10-install-i386
[12:53] <ludi> is there an i686 version?
[12:53] <thoreauputic_> ludi: no
[12:53] <ludi> no to latest or no to i686
[12:53] <alvint> noaki:  CORRECTION the line that starts with DRIVER to DRIVER "fglrx"
[12:53] <thoreauputic_> no to i686
[12:53] <s_spiff> yeah
[12:54] <noaki> alvint: ok i will do... but in that in the xorg.conf and not in the logfile, of course ?
[12:55] <noaki> *but that
[12:55] <alvint> noaki: also for breezy, you may need to comment out the line that reads 'Load "Int10"' under 'Section "Module"'
[12:55] <nikol> seveas: need i internet connection for that???
[12:55] <lowman62> g'mornin techsupport room :)
[12:55] <thegladiator> kde 3.5 is not stable ?
[12:55] <Seveas> nikol, yes...
[12:55] <thegladiator> testig state ?
[12:56] <nikol> seveas: but i have not... a
[12:57] <thegladiator> does anyone know if kde 3.5 is stable or not ?
[12:57] <renedox> does anyone here run k3b and is able to help me with it?
[12:57] <thegladiator> i already see kde 4.0 at kde-looks site , but kde 3.5 looks buggy
[12:57] <nikol> what i must download now and install later to fix it???
[12:57] <Seveas> nikol, ubuntu is not the best distro to use without internet connection I'm afraid
[12:57] <thoreauputic_> renedox: tell us the problem
[12:57] <alvint> noaki: yes in xorg.conf
[12:57] <renedox> um..
[12:57] <noaki> alvint: is it the line Driver "vga" which i should change to Driver "flgrx" ?
[12:57] <renedox> when I first started k3b, it told me I needed something to run as root
[12:58] <alvint> noaki: yes
[12:58] <renedox> but, i've forgotten what it is
[12:58] <alexandre> Hi guys! How can I tell how much free space I've got left on a mounted floppy disk?
[12:58] <s_spiff> brb
[12:58] <renedox> at the moment, I'm trying to burn something to a DVD
[12:58] <thoreauputic_> renedox: did you run k3b setup ?
[12:58] <Gunfus> does anyone know if can I suspend/standby my computer..
[12:58] <renedox> k3b setup?
[12:58] <mwe> alexandre: df
[12:58] <bakwal> hey guys, a little help with kubuntu  here please?
[12:59] <thoreauputic_> renedox: I don't have it here atm, but there's a setup option in the menus
[12:59] <renedox> where do I run k3b setup?
[12:59] <renedox> oh ok
[12:59] <lowman62> df -h
[12:59] <alvint> noaki: first ensure the package 'xorg-driver-fglrx' is installed and also the right 'linux-restricted-modules' for your kernel
[12:59] <phos-phoros> ?
[12:59] <alexandre> mwe: great, thanks!
[12:59] <mwe> bakwal: ask away but maybe they know more at #kubuntu
[01:00] <Gunfus> how can I suspend/standby my computer..
[01:00] <renedox> the md5 check is taking ages...
[01:00] <thoreauputic_> renedox: settings - k3b setup
[01:00] <alvint> noaki: also remember to comment out the 'Load "int10"' line.
[01:00] <noaki> alvint: i installed 'xorg-driver-fglrx'
[01:00] <bakwal> i just installed kubuntu (after downloading the latest)  i was able to install it without any problems. but i cant change settings. it says i must be in root level to perform changes. But it didnt require me any password for root during installation, what can I do?
[01:00] <noaki> alvint: how to check wether the 'linux-restricted-modules' is installed?
[01:00] <renedox> thoreauputic_: cool, thanks, i'll check it once k3b is finished
[01:00] <alexandre> lowman62: even better with the human readable sizes! ;-)
[01:00] <mwe> bakwal: use sudo
[01:00] <alvint> noaki: search for it in synaptic
[01:01] <mwe> !tell bakwal about rootsudo
[01:01] <renedox> thoreauputic_: um.. asks me for a password...
[01:01] <lowman62> alexandre: I thought so to I personally use a script ;)
[01:01] <noaki> alvint: oh ok i should have known that :)
[01:01] <thoreauputic_> renedox: your user password
[01:01] <renedox> ok
[01:01] <bakwal> mwe: how do i use sudo? i just type on terminal:  sudo
[01:01] <Gunfus> does anyone where I can ask about standby/shutdown/suspend..?
[01:01] <mwe> bakwal: read /msg from ubotu
[01:01] <alvint> noaki: if you previously modified your 'xorg.conf' make sure you revert those changes
[01:01] <thoreauputic_> !tell bakwal about sudo
[01:02] <renedox> thoreauputic_: right, so what do I do there?
[01:02] <SeicherlBoB> hi there! My syslog is exploding cause i get millions of pptp anon log-errors about "disduplicate or old packet xxxxx (expecting yyyyy)" Whats happening there?!
[01:02] <j2daosh> anyone know if it is possible to use the cut command to cut 2 seprate fields from the who -uH command? i want to cut the name and the pid fields and drop them into a seprate field for a script im working on
[01:02] <mwe> bakwal: sudo <command> followed by your user password
[01:02] <thoreauputic_> renedox: erm - foolow the directions? I haven't done it for ages...
[01:02] <thoreauputic_> *follow
[01:02] <renedox> there are no instructions
[01:02] <SeicherlBoB> I googled for the error and all i found was a couple of unanswered question and some advice i don't understand - something about LCP config. can anybody help me with that?
[01:03] <alvint> noaki: make sure the restricted modules version matches the kernel version you boot with
[01:03] <bakwal> mwe  i want to enable the network adapters.
[01:03] <noaki> alvint: ok i found it ... it is the right version
[01:03] <mwe> bakwal: yes
[01:03] <lowman62> j2daosh: what is the script that are working on do?
[01:03] <renedox> thoreauputic_: it's just for setting permissions or something
[01:03] <mwe> bakwal: go ahead
[01:03] <noaki> alvint: now i'll comment out that 'Load "int10' line
[01:04] <mwe> bakwal: I don't use gnome but I believe there's a gui to do it somewhere in the menus
[01:04] <j2daosh> log all users currently on when the script runs, match against user running the script and if other users dont match, kill them
[01:04] <pornsurfer> Ng, i am having problems recovering from my error. i cannot boot kernel 2.6.12-10-386   I can boot to 2.6.12-8-386 though and i see the nvidia splash screen. the only errors i could pick out were: failed to load the nvidia kernel module, and : fatal server error: no screens found .  i tried to reconfigure 4 times without success :(
[01:04] <thoreauputic_> renedox: yes, well among other things I think cdrecord has to run suid root
[01:04] <thoreauputic_> renedox: but that's from memory
[01:04] <alvint> noaki: yup. once you're up and running you can see if it works with it
[01:04] <renedox> thoreauputic_: hang on, i'll give you a screen shot
[01:04] <Ng> pornsurfer: hmm, that would suggest you are missing the restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386 package
[01:04] <j2daosh> so i want to cut the name and pid but i need them on the same line in the output file the script runs on
[01:05] <pornsurfer> Ng, any way i can undo my error?
[01:05] <lowman62> j2daosh: I think there is a ready made script for that...want me to check for you?
[01:05] <renedox> thoreauputic_: http://60.234.155.87/~cheng/screenshots/Screenshot-1.png
[01:05] <renedox> thoreauputic_: sorry for the slow connection :|
[01:05] <blue-frog> j2daosh, who -uH | awk '{print $1" " $3}'  for example
[01:05] <thoreauputic_> renedox: I'm on dialup anyway :)
[01:05] <Ng> pornsurfer: try installing that package and see if that helps
[01:06] <j2daosh> im sure there is... but since im trying to learn/scripting and programming i wanna see what i can do
[01:06] <renedox> thoreauputic_: oh ok :)
[01:06] <j2daosh> awk?
[01:06] <pornsurfer> Ng, can i install from here? i am booted into 2.6.12-8-386
[01:06] <Ng> pornsurfer: yep
[01:06] <lowman62> j2daosh: oh okay i understand that fully...good luck on that ;) <--is a programmer
[01:06] <pornsurfer> Ng, ok i will try , thanks a million !!
[01:07] <mwe> renedox: are you on dialup or something? I couldn't resist following the link to the screenshot
[01:07] <Ng> j2daosh: that does sound a bit like a job for awk, yeah :)
[01:07] <renedox> mwe: no, we have slow upload speeds in NZ (128)
[01:07] <noaki> alvint: sorry but theres another problem... i looked for that line but this line couldn't be found
[01:07] <mwe> renedox: all right
[01:08] <renedox> mwe: :)
[01:08] <j2daosh> lol but i dont know awk... but thats ok i suppose... ill need to learn it anyway... and its interchangeable with perl right?
[01:08] <alvint> noaki: it's there under 'Section "Module"'
[01:08] <pornsurfer> Ng, which version do i need? there are many
[01:08] <thoreauputic_> renedox: I have -rwsr-xr--  1 root cdrom 323508 2005-09-13 23:10 /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap  ( your's appears not to be set suid )
[01:08] <ja> how do I hibernate my laptop from the commandline (or fluxbox)?
[01:08] <pornsurfer> Ng, oops ...disregard
[01:08] <lowman62> j2daosh: man awk
[01:08] <Gunfus> does anyone where I can ask about standby/shutdown/suspend..?
[01:09] <j2daosh> :) thank you
[01:09] <j2daosh> brb
[01:09] <jerome__> quit
[01:09] <mwe> Gunfus: ask here
[01:10] <thoreauputic_> renedox: also mine is group cdrom, yours appears to be root
[01:10] <renedox> thoreauputic_: um... how do I change it...?
[01:10] <Gunfus> I have.. but noone has answered.. so I figure that noone knew...in anycase.. how can I  standby/shutdown/suspend..?
[01:10] <pornsurfer> Ng, i believe i have successfully installed the  restricted modules for 2.6.12-10-386.    is there anythhing i have to do before i reboot?
[01:11] <bakwal> i think im still stuck with my problem
[01:11] <sudharsh> System > Logout > Hibrenate
[01:11] <Ng> pornsurfer: I dont think so :)
[01:11] <noaki> alvint: i wrote a personal message or however u call this how u wrote to me some time ago
[01:11] <Gunfus> sudharsh, I don't have that options..
[01:11] <bakwal> when i go to system settings>network settings (KUBUNTU) it says your flatform is not supported, then gives me a list to chose from. Whats Next?
[01:11] <pornsurfer> <---- crosses fingers :)-
[01:11] <sudharsh> ...
[01:11] <Gunfus> sudharsh, is there a way to do it from inside the desktop..?
[01:12] <lowman62> <--plugs ears
[01:12] <sudharsh> Gunfus i m telling this within the desktop
[01:12] <alvint> noaki: hmm didn't get it...
[01:12] <thoreauputic_> renedox: sudo chown root:cdrom /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap && sudo  chmod 4754 /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap   <-- should do it
[01:12] <Gunfus> then I totally don't have that option.. I only see shutdown
[01:12] <ja> sudharsh: is there a way to hibernate from the fluxbox WM?
[01:12] <Gunfus> sudharsh, then I totally don't have that option.. I only see shutdown
[01:12] <sudharsh> ja: sorry mate dunno
[01:13] <sudharsh> Gunfus: Did ur monitor get detected properly
[01:13] <Gunfus> my monitor yes
[01:13] <mwe> bakwal: ask in the channel please
[01:13] <Gunfus> sudharsh, yes it did..
[01:13] <renedox> thoreauputic_: 4754? thought there were only three numbers
[01:13] <SeicherlBoB> hi there! My syslog is exploding cause i get millions of pptp anon log-errors about "disduplicate or old packet xxxxx (expecting yyyyy)" Whats happening there?!
[01:13] <SeicherlBoB> I googled for the error and all i found was a couple of unanswered question and some advice i don't understand - something about LCP config. can anybody help me with that?
[01:13] <sudharsh> no problems...there?
[01:13] <noaki> alvint: i get yours ... hm then i'll write it here
[01:13] <ja> sudharsh: thanks, I guess I'll have to use GNOME then
[01:13] <bakwal> when i go to system settings>network settings (KUBUNTU) it says your flatform is not supported, then gives me a list to chose from. Whats Next?
[01:13] <thoreauputic_> renedox: the 4 is for suid
[01:13] <renedox> ah.. ic
[01:13] <noaki> Section "Module"
[01:13] <noaki> # This loads the DBE extension module.
[01:13] <noaki>     Load        "dbe"  	# Double buffer extension
[01:13] <noaki> # This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
[01:13] <noaki> # initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
[01:13] <noaki>     SubSection  "extmod"
[01:13] <noaki>       Option    "omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
[01:14] <noaki>     EndSubSection
[01:14] <noaki> # This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules
[01:14] <sudharsh> check the xorg.conf for anomalies
[01:14] <noaki>     Load        "type1"
[01:14] <noaki>     Load        "freetype"
[01:14] <noaki> # This loads the GLX module
[01:14] <noaki>     Load        "glx"   # libglx.a
[01:14] <noaki>     Load        "dri"   # libdri.a
[01:14] <noaki> EndSection
[01:14] <Gunfus> noaki, use paste bin
[01:14] <rambo3> nice
[01:14] <sudharsh> noaki: paste this output in pastebin
[01:14] <azatoth> hi!
[01:15] <Gunfus> sudharsh, so what else can I do to enable the standby??
[01:15] <noaki> sudharsch & gunfus: what? sorry i don't understand what you mean or how to do
[01:15] <sudharsh> what kinda card do u use
[01:15] <Gunfus> sudharsh, for the video card..?!
[01:15] <sudharsh> yeah..sry
[01:16] <thoreauputic_> !paste
[01:16] <ubotu> paste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:16] <alvint> noaki: if you modified your 'xorg.conf' previously you should change it back. but it may work as is.
[01:16] <renedox> thoreauputic_: I don't get what the problem is
[01:16] <renedox> thoreauputic_: I have a DVD +- reader/writer
[01:16] <renedox> thoreauputic_: thought every kind of DVD can be written on
[01:16] <renedox> thoreauputic_: + or -
[01:16] <thoreauputic_> renedox: it looks like your k3b wasn't set up right
[01:17] <thoreauputic_> renedox: you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure k3b
[01:17] <noaki> alvint: i have a backup of the xorg.conf, but i made it before installing the driver
[01:17] <Zedman> renedox: try modpobe sg
[01:17] <jenda> Ng: OK, I did the dist-upgrade, and I got all zeros
[01:17] <lowman62> renedox: your solution may be here http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/chap10.php
[01:17] <alvint> noaki: that's even better. just make those 2 changes to the backup
[01:17] <blue-frog> renedox, isn't sudo k3b solving your pb?
[01:18] <Ng> jenda: sounds like it's working then, was that it or was there another error to solve (I forgot, sorry)
[01:18] <noaki> alvint: ok i'll do
[01:18] <Gunfus> sudharsh, my video is a NVIDIA GeForce 6600
[01:18] <renedox> sudo k3b>
[01:18] <renedox> why would I run k3b as root?
[01:18] <sudharsh> did u install the drivers
[01:18] <thoreauputic_> blue-frog: sudo k3b is a bad idea - it can lock up your ~/.ICEauthority
[01:18] <renedox> or need to
[01:18] <Gunfus> sudharsh, It got detected automaticly
[01:18] <sudharsh> supplied by ur vendor
[01:18] <jenda> Ng: the problem is that my kernel, according to uname -r, is 2.6.12-9, not -10
[01:19] <sudharsh> ok...now fire up synaptic
[01:19] <Gunfus> sudharsh, I didn't even check if they had linux drivers..
[01:19] <blue-frog> renedox, so u will know if it's a permission pb
[01:19] <Ng> jenda: ah yes
[01:19] <Gunfus> sudharsh, okay
[01:19] <sudharsh> well nvidia provide thier own drivers
[01:19] <jenda> Ng: ah no...
[01:19] <sudharsh> might as well check that
[01:19] <thoreauputic_> blue-frog: renedox  kdesu k3b is a safer option
[01:20] <Gunfus> sudharsh, okay so launch synaptic and..?!
[01:20] <renedox> thoreauputic_: kdesu?
[01:20] <blue-frog> thoreauputic, am using gnome...
[01:20] <noaki> alvint: How can i delete the xorg.conf
[01:20] <blue-frog> thoreauputic, and i don't have any pb with k3b...
[01:20] <sudharsh> search for nvidia
[01:20] <thoreauputic_> renedox: just type kdesu k3b -  it should ask for a password
[01:21] <noaki> alvint: i have to be root - how can i do that over terminal
[01:21] <thoreauputic_> blue-frog: I know - but you were suggesting sudo k3b, which isn't a good idea :)
[01:21] <renedox> I get the following error:
[01:21] <renedox> cdrecord = 2.6.8
[01:21] <renedox> Since Linux kernel 2.6.8 cdrecord Solution: Use K3bSetup to solve this problem
[01:21] <ja> when I logout of GNOME (running in gdm) I have the option of hibernating my laptop but when I use KDE (running on kdm) I only have the option to end current session, reboot or shutdown.  How can I hibernate from KDE?
[01:21] <noaki> alvint: i want to learn a bit how to use it
[01:21] <sudharsh> u'll need to install nvidia-glx
[01:21] <thoreauputic_> renedox: which is where we came in - run k3bsetup
[01:22] <renedox> thoreauputic_: yeah, but it only says use k3bsetup
[01:22] <Gunfus> sudharsh, okay.. marked for install as well as nvidia-settings
[01:22] <renedox> doesn't tell exactly what to do :|
[01:22] <Ng> jenda: have you done a "sudo apt-get update" recently? If not, do that and then see if "apt-cache search 2.6.12-10" returns anything
[01:22] <sudharsh> k install the stuff
[01:22] <sudharsh> should work
[01:22] <noaki> alvint: what is the command to delete a file
[01:22] <thoreauputic_> renedox: did you try   sudo dpkg-reconfigure k3b  ?
[01:22] <sudharsh> rm
[01:22] <lowman62> noaki: Applications>System Tools> Run as different user type in gnome-terminal or whatever terminal you use and you are root voila!
[01:23] <UncleD> thoreauputic_: I'm sshd into my ubuntu box and occasionally I get "randomly" disconnected. Sometimes while Idle for 10 minutes, other times while MID-TYPING something. Any idea whats going on?
[01:23] <Gunfus> sudharsh, COOL! MAN!! THANKS A LOT!!
[01:23] <renedox> thoreauputic_: yip
[01:23] <sudharsh> it worked?
[01:23] <renedox> thoreauputic_: is any output meant to show? because I didn't get anything
[01:23] <Gunfus> sudharsh, yes it works, Now I see the option.. I don't understand what the video card has to do with the hybernate or any of those.. but sure
[01:23] <UncleD> thoreauputic_: Then, when I log back in, my ttypid is still alive, like, "im still connected".. I don't get it.
[01:23] <sudharsh> well it does...
[01:24] <thoreauputic_> renedox: hmm - sorry I think I'm out of ideas - the only other thing I can think of is to purge k3b and reinstall it
[01:24] <sudharsh> nvidia provide their own drivers
[01:24] <lowman62> noaki: rm <filename>
[01:24] <thoreauputic_> UncleD: weird :|
[01:24] <sudharsh> lucky u dont hav an ati
[01:24] <renedox> thoreauputic_: last time I did that, I had to reinstall :(
[01:24] <Gunfus> sudharsh, I figure you have an ATI.. ;P.. okay.. well thanks for that help
[01:25] <sudharsh> no i dont ,....i hav an SiS :O
[01:25] <Gunfus> sudharsh, one last question.. then.. while we were doing this.. I burned a CD of the utils froM intel for linux..
[01:25] <thoreauputic_> renedox:  sudo apt-get remove --purge k3b && sudo apt-get install k3b  <-- should be safe I think
[01:25] <renedox> thoreauputic_: cool
[01:26] <sudharsh> k Gnufus check the output of glxinfo and see if direct rendering is enabled
[01:26] <trincamckee> good morning/evening
[01:26] <Steve|> does anyone here have a "skymaster ethernet adapter"
[01:26] <noaki> lowman62: thank you
[01:26] <sudharsh> k...yes
[01:26] <Steve|> 10/100
[01:26] <lowman62> noaki: yw :)
[01:26] <thoreauputic_> renedox: I think you should get a setup on first run after reinstalling, from memory
[01:26] <Steve|> 100/10 sorry
[01:26] <Gunfus> sudharsh, but I can't execute anything out of the new burned CD because they are all owned by root, even if I do a sudo ./autorun.sh it doesn't work it says "sudo: unable toe xecute ./autorun: permission denied"
[01:26] <renedox> thoreauputic_: oh ok
[01:26] <trincamckee> does someone knows where can i find the smoke screensaver?
[01:26] <noaki> lowman62: i only know DOS command 'del' ;-)
[01:27] <sudharsh> include sudo sh ./<whatever>
[01:27] <renedox> thoreauputic_: I just restarted k3b, see if that helps, because of the things I've been asked to do
[01:27] <jenda> Ng: OK. Found tons of stuff for -10, but a sudo apt-get upgrade won't install anything...
[01:27] <Gunfus> sudharsh, okay.. direct rendering is not enabled
[01:27] <trincamckee> i had this screensaver in warty and hoary, but in breezy i think its not installed
[01:27] <lowman62> noaki: once upon a time I was in same pair of shoes. :)
[01:27] <sudharsh> hmmm...k then reboot to enable it...thats all
[01:27] <Zedman> renedox: burning cd's is working on your machine, isn't it? I had the problem, that I can't burn cd, because there was an kernel module that wasn't loaded.
[01:27] <thoreauputic_> renedox: worth a shot - but the command I gave you should work OK if you need it
[01:27] <mwe> Gunfus: mount it with right options and users will be able to execute as well
[01:28] <renedox> Zedman: yeah, it works, but I think it might be this kind of DVD
[01:28] <renedox> thoreauputic_: yeah, I've saved it :)
[01:28] <sudharsh> well i thught u would get the hibernate options only after u reboot
[01:28] <sudharsh> but in ur case it cam rite away
[01:28] <Gunfus> sudharsh, how about Hybernating.. ;P.. I know it doesn't work.. I am just happy the options is there..
[01:28] <renedox> Zedman: I can burn other DVDs and CDs just fine, I think it's just this brand
[01:28] <Gunfus> mwe, okay.. I will unmount and mount it again
[01:28] <sudharsh> well u gotta reboot anyway
[01:29] <Zedman> renedox, ok, thats fine. :)
[01:29] <mwe> Gunfus: use -o umask=0222
[01:29] <renedox> Zedman: :)
[01:29] <sudharsh> Gunfs u must include the 'sh' after sudo
[01:29] <thoreauputic_> renedox: if that's the case, then why mess with what works? Just use another dvd type ...
[01:30] <mwe> Gunfus: then you should be able to execute without sudo or sh
[01:30] <renedox> thoreauputic_: hm.. yeah, good point
[01:30] <j2daosh> ok... awk didn't work... it expected a bunch of other stuff
[01:30] <sudharsh> mwe..thanx i didnt know that
[01:30] <renedox> anyone want 25 blank DVDs?
[01:30] <renedox> lol
[01:30] <sudharsh> count me in
[01:30] <j2daosh> dual layer?
[01:30] <j2daosh> lol
[01:30] <thoreauputic_> renedox: "If it ain't broke... " you know the rest ;)
[01:30] <renedox> haha
[01:30] <renedox> no
[01:30] <renedox> thoreauputic_: yeah...
[01:30] <aeon17x> I wish I had a burner. :(
[01:31] <renedox> thoreauputic_: just hope I haven't "fixed" it :|
[01:31] <j2daosh> i wish mine was recognized by ubuntu
[01:31] <lowman62> j2daosh: you would have to use it within a testing statement...like an "if" type statement
[01:31] <thoreauputic_> renedox: if you have "fixed" it - do the purge and reinstall
[01:31] <thoreauputic_> for k3b
[01:31] <noaki> alvint: ok i commented out that load line and changed the driver part
[01:31] <j2daosh> really? crap... i dont know that much yet....
[01:31] <renedox> thoreauputic_: yeah
[01:31] <joseph> why does ubuntu not ask to set root password during installation?
[01:31] <thoreauputic_> !root
[01:31] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:31] <noaki> alvint: can i know just reboot and everything works?
[01:31] <j2daosh> jos... because its disabled by default
[01:31] <renedox> thoreauputic_: but didn't I change permissions on some files too?
[01:32] <bakwal> ERROR: The module: USERS & GROUPS could not be loaded....  (I cant add new users to kubuntu)  how do i fix it?
[01:32] <thoreauputic_> renedox: yes, but that shouldn't break it
[01:32] <renedox> thoreauputic_: cool :)
[01:32] <lowman62> j2daosh: kind of like if this do this if that do that type statement then have a fall back else do this
[01:32] <sudharsh> bakwal: try rebooting
[01:32] <Ng> jenda: does "uname -a" exactly for the kernel version? 2.6.12-9-386?
[01:32] <bakwal> thanks sudharsh ill try
[01:33] <j2daosh> hmm... looks like ill have to read somemore before i make this script
[01:33] <j2daosh> ok... ill be back in a few hours and let you know how it turned out
[01:33] <Gunfus> mwe, you mean for mouting the CD.. (sorry my wife called me)
[01:33] <j2daosh> thanks for thelp help so far... dont run off though
[01:33] <j2daosh> lol
[01:33] <lowman62> j2daosh: careful...test test test...can cause damage real easy
[01:33] <Gunfus> sudharsh, Thanks all the help man.. I really appreciate it
[01:34] <sudharsh> Gunfus....check the permissions...and see whtr its executable
[01:34] <isho> hai friend..i want sex
[01:34] <j2daosh> oh i know... i just have to remember now to kill sys and hal and other user processes
[01:34] <lowman62> ;)
[01:34] <joseph> when I first login to ubuntu, in the upper-right corner there is a message "There are 39 updates available".  When I click on this icon, a prompt asks me for the root password.  However, when I installed ubuntu it never asked me to set the root password.  Therefore, how am I going to proceed?
[01:34] <j2daosh> jos
[01:34] <Gunfus> sudharsh, it is executable..
[01:34] <jenda> Ng: 2.6.12-9-386
[01:34] <j2daosh> !root
[01:34] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:34] <ccooke> joseph: it's asking for your own password, not the root password
[01:34] <theine> joseph, it asks you for your user password
[01:35] <sudharsh> well is it executable by you
[01:35] <j2daosh> jos... look at that link
[01:35] <theine> joseph, just type in that
[01:35] <lowman62> joseph what is the password you used to login to your profile ...that is the one it is asking for
[01:35] <Gunfus> mwe, you meant to use that option "-o umask=0222" when mouting..?
[01:35] <joseph> ccooke: theine: so I never get to set the root password?
[01:35] <isho> join me..to sexs party
[01:35] <pornsurfer> Ng, sorry to keep bugging you!   I still cant boot 2.6.12-10-386    i THINK i got the required restricted libraries and tried to reconfigure x but no luck. Any ideas how i should proceed?
[01:35] <theine> !sudo
[01:35] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:35] <Ng> jenda: ok, try "sudo apt-get install linux-386" - does that pull in the 2.6.12-10 ones?
[01:35] <theine> joseph, what ubotu said...
[01:35] <thoreauputic> joseph: did you read the URL ubotu posted?
[01:35] <ccooke> joseph: no,not by default. You can if you have a reason for it. Otherwise, everything uses sudo or a graphical sudo
[01:36] <Ng> pornsurfer: erk, well you could change the graphics driver from "nvidia" to "nv" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf - it's not an ideal solution but at least it'll get you running 2.6.12-10 and maybe we can figure out what's going on
[01:36] <jenda> Ng: newest version... gotta be in my sources.list - will check
[01:36] <hejux> ls
[01:36] <hejux> clear
[01:36] <sudharsh> pornsurfer: did u install nvidia-glx
[01:37] <jenda> Ng: OK, I think I'm missing the main repos :)
[01:37] <hejux> hi, is there a room to flooding ?
[01:37] <jenda> hejux; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:37] <pornsurfer> Ng, i tried that, as well as other things while reconfiguring , nothing worked. :( is there a way to just completely undo what i have done and start again?
[01:37] <thoreauputic> hejux: #flood
[01:37] <dutch> hejux: #flood
[01:37] <joseph> ccooke: or I have to use Run and enter gksudo
[01:37] <pornsurfer> sudharsh, i dont think so, its necessary?
[01:37] <Ng> jenda: that might explain it ;)
[01:37] <mwe> Gunfus: well mount /media/cdrom as user should be sufficient
[01:37] <sudharsh> well it solved the problem for Gunfus
[01:38] <pornsurfer> sudharsh , i remember seeing it checked while reconfiguring x , maybe i need a different version ?
[01:38] <mwe> Gunfus: At second thought I'm not sure umask works for cds
[01:38] <sudharsh> no dats different
[01:38] <Gunfus> mwe, okay.. so just mount the CD as the user instead of root
[01:38] <sudharsh> check if its installed in synaptic
[01:38] <mwe> Gunfus: yeah
[01:38] <ccooke> joseph: Applications -> System Tools -> Run as different user
[01:39] <Ng> pornsurfer: hmm, not easily. I'm really quite surprised that didn't work though, if the config works on 2.6.12-8 and the modules for -10 are available then it should still all Just Work :/
[01:39] <mwe> Gunfus: provied it's in fstab and has option user in there
[01:39] <jenda> Ng: No, I have all of what source-o-matic gives...
[01:39] <mwe> Gunfus: should be by default I think
[01:39] <pornsurfer> Ng, figures, i have broken it beyond repair or reason :)
[01:39] <Gunfus> mwe, I was just checking my fstab and it seems to be there... so I guess automount is mounting the cdrom as soon as I put it in
[01:39] <thoreauputic> jenda: did you  sudo apt-get update ?
[01:40] <sudharsh> Gunfus give the long ls in the flood
[01:40] <sudharsh> i mean in #flood
[01:40] <jack_> Helloo! I have some pretty out dated versions of software on my system.. How can I uodate these,, for example Banshee and GTK-Gnutella are not quite current..
[01:40] <mwe> Gunfus: yeah
[01:40] <sudharsh> jack_ apt-get update and u r rokin
[01:40] <jenda> thoreauputic: about three gazillion times...
[01:40] <Gunfus> mwe, i tried mounting it as a user.. it still mounts as root..
[01:40] <thoreauputic> jenda: OK :)
[01:40] <Gunfus> sudharsh, what.. where ks in the flood..?
[01:40] <Ng> jenda: the only other thing I can think of is that it is installed, but GRUB isn't showing/selecting it, does "dpkg -l | grep 2.6.12" show any -10 stuff? If it does then reboot and hit Escape when grub starts so you can see its menu
[01:40] <Gunfus> sudharsh, ls in the flood..?
[01:41] <pornsurfer> Ng, sudharsh , there are 4 avilable things for nvidia-glx   ,  how do i know which i need?
[01:41] <Gunfus> sudharsh, what is the flood
[01:41] <sudharsh> flood is another channel
[01:41] <omer> hi guys
[01:41] <thoreauputic> Gunfus:  /join #flood
[01:41] <Gunfus> sudharsh, ohh okay.. hehe
[01:41] <Ng> pornsurfer: unless you have a very old nvidia card you want "nvidia-glx". the -dev ones are for compiling
[01:41] <omer> i want to build debian ubuntu on to my winxp with vmware workstation so which one i prefer live cd or install cd?
[01:41] <sudharsh> pornsurfer: select evrythin: jus make sure it doesnt remove anythin imp
[01:41] <jack_> sudharsh, yes.. but that won't help.. I really would like GTK-Gnutella to be more current.. I have universe and multiverse and all..
[01:41] <pornsurfer> Ng, i have ti4400
[01:41] <Steve|> will ubuntu auto detect a hardware and install it for me?
[01:41] <Gunfus> sudharsh, so you want the ls.. of the cdrom..?!
[01:41] <omer> i want to build debian ubuntu on to my winxp with vmware workstation so which one i prefer live cd or install cd?
[01:42] <jenda> Ng: darn... I just didn't reboot yet :). That's the thing. Thanks a bunch.
[01:42] <sudharsh> yes
[01:42] <pornsurfer> sudharsh, ok i will try. thanks !!
[01:42] <thoreauputic> Steve|: if it is supported
[01:42] <theine> omer, install cd
[01:42] <mwe> Gunfus: sudo mount -o uid=1000 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom then if your uid 1000
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[01:42] <Steve|> thoreauputic: well what i'm talking about specifically is a skymaster 100/10 lan acrd
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[01:42] <pornsurfer> Ng, is ti4400 an "very old" card??
[01:42] <omer> install cd ok,my pc is x86
[01:42] <mwe> Gunfus: "id" will show
[01:43] <thoreauputic> Steve|: most lan cards (nics) are well supported
[01:43] <Ng> pornsurfer: no, I think that should work with the nvidia-glx package
[01:43] <pornsurfer> Ng , ok thanx
[01:43] <thoreauputic> Steve|: I don't know particular ones :)
[01:43] <Steve|> ho :|
[01:43] <Steve|> thoreauputic: so if i just put in this lan card, it will install it automatically without me having to do anything?
[01:43] <Steve|> if it is supported that is
[01:43] <thoreauputic> Steve|: easiest way is to try it, I guess :) chances are it willbe fine
[01:44] <Steve|> okey dokey
[01:44] <joseph> is it ok to use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:44] <Steve|> thanks :)
[01:44] <mwe> Gunfus: however when my cd is mounted as root it still gives everyone permission to execute from it
[01:44] <theine> joseph,  very ok :)
[01:44] <thoreauputic> joseph: sure - that's the right way to reconfigre X
[01:44] <thoreauputic> *reconfigure
[01:44] <mwe> Gunfus: what file system is it?
[01:44] <joseph> wasn't sure if there was an ubuntu-specific GUI method or something else
[01:44] <omer> excuse me theine, are you sure ?i am new in ubuntu so i want to be sure
[01:44] <pornsurfer> Ng, when reconfiguring X it asks about the bus location...?   it says PCI 1.0.0   is this right for agp card?
[01:45] <theine> omer, that you should use the install CD to install Ubuntu under Vmware? Yes
[01:45] <thoreauputic> joseph: don't forget to use sudo in front of that command
[01:45] <Gunfus> mwe, iso9660
[01:45] <omer> yes i will use vmware
[01:45] <theine> omer, than use the install CD.
[01:45] <renedox> Now listening to: Bob Carlisle - Butterfly kisses
[01:46] <joseph> I find a flaw with the sudo method.  since user does not have root access, the Tab completion fails.
[01:46] <omer> ok thanx theine
[01:46] <thoreauputic> joseph: in ~/.bashrc, uncomment programmable completion
[01:46] <theine> joseph, try "source /etc/bash_completion"
[01:46] <mwe> Gunfus: I don't know why it's not mounted with permissions for everyone to execute. is is here. however I think the -o uid= will work
[01:46] <rambo3> no it doesnt
[01:47] <limguohong91> Hi, How do i start running wine?
[01:47] <theine> joseph, you might wanna uncomment that line in your ~/.bashrc
[01:47] <mwe> limguohong91: type wine notepad.exe for example
[01:47] <pornsurfer> anybody............when reconfiguring X it asks about the bus location...?   it says PCI 1.0.0   is this right for agp card?
[01:47] <limguohong91> Type it at where?
[01:48] <mwe> limguohong91: in a terminal
[01:48] <theine> joseph, yeah, what thoreauputic said...
[01:48] <thoreauputic> theine: the lines are there in ,bashrc - just a question of removing the #
[01:48] <limguohong91> mwe : Ok :) I will try it :)
[01:48] <theine> thoreauputic, I know
[01:48] <thoreauputic> theine: OK :)
[01:48] <theine> thoreauputic, that's why I said `uncomment that line' :)
[01:48] <limguohong91> mwe: It gave me $ /usr/local/bin/winecfg
[01:49] <sudharsh> pornsurfer...jus see what happens
[01:49] <mwe> limguohong91: yes?
[01:49] <limguohong91> mwe: It gave me Base: Wine Command not found.
[01:49] <thoreauputic> theine: actually it is an if statement ( 3 lines ) to be pedantic :)
[01:49] <mwe> limguohong91: it's wine. not Wine
[01:49] <mwe> limguohong91: watch the caps
[01:49] <theine> thoreauputic, you're right
[01:49] <limguohong91> mew: it is still the same thing
[01:50] <Gunfus> mwe.. oky.. I will give that a try in a copuple of sec
[01:50] <limguohong91> bash: wine : command not found
[01:50] <mwe> limguohong91: have you installed wine?
[01:50] <sudharsh> installed it? winelib
[01:50] <pornsurfer> sudharsh, see what happens how? after reinstalling nvidia-glx ??
[01:50] <limguohong91> Yes through Synaptic
[01:50] <limguohong91> I just install it and I can use it right?
[01:50] <sudharsh> u know the pci*** stuff
[01:50] <sudharsh> jus proceed
[01:50] <\sh> limguohong91: dapper or breezy?
[01:50] <limguohong91> Breezy
[01:51] <pornsurfer> sudharsh , i tried it with the default value and had no joy.  thats why i was asking if 1.0.0 is the correct bus location for agp cards
[01:51] <sudharsh> limguohong...try /usr/bin/wine
[01:51] <\sh> limguohong91: sudo apt-get install wine...and you should have wine 0.0.20050725 or something like this
[01:51] <theine> Is anybody working on a Qt front end to NetworkManager?
[01:51] <sudharsh> i dont hv agp cards...:(
[01:51] <mwe> limguohong91: it shouldn't say command not found at least. I think you need to run winecfg though
[01:51] <sudharsh> sorry i dunno
[01:51] <\sh> mwe: in the new wine versions there is no winecfg anymore
[01:51] <limguohong91> Ok Thanks for the 3 guiys who help me I will have a shot at it.
[01:51] <pornsurfer> sudharsh, cool, thanks anyway
[01:52] <mwe> \sh: oh
[01:52] <\sh> mwe: it's configuring when during its first run
[01:52] <mwe> \sh: so you just run wine then?
[01:52] <\sh> well...anyways..wait for the security update of wine for breezy...my security patch is waiting for pittis ok to upload
[01:52] <\sh> mwe: yes...wine <foobar.exe<
[01:53] <joachim-n> I'm trying to install IEs4Linux, but I get a timeout whenthe script downloads from MS
[01:53] <BradM> unt dah niclcht nien bragachastar
[01:53] <joachim-n> > Connecting to activex.microsoft.com|207.46.249.55|:80...
[01:53] <mwe> \sh: all right
[01:53] <BradM> unt dah niclcht nien bragachastar
[01:53] <theine> BradM, word...
[01:53] <\sh> the upcoming security patch will fix the wmf issue of wine...brrr
[01:53] <BradM> haha
[01:53] <BradM> i have no idea what im saying
[01:54] <joseph> I like spatial nautilus.  How do I set it that way.
[01:55] <thoreauputic> \sh: I heard the wmf vulnerability was "designed in" by MS - is that right?
[01:55] <BradM> MS
[01:55] <BradM> !
[01:55] <ubotu> BradM: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:55] <BradM> !
[01:55] <sudharsh> joseph: go to Preferences > file management
[01:55] <\sh> thoreauputic: no clue...but it's funny that wine has the same problem...
[01:55] <joseph> sudharsh: yes, and then?
[01:55] <thoreauputic> BradM: don't play with the bot please
[01:55] <BradM> bot = gay
[01:55] <BradM> i wasn't you fucknut
[01:55] <BradM> i just discovered it
[01:55] <\sh> thoreauputic: cedega doesn't have this issue because they were not implementing the wmf stuff somehow...
[01:55] <BradM> damn
[01:55] <sudharsh> joseph: go to behaviour tab
[01:55] <mwe> thoreauputic: designed in? how do you mean?
[01:55] <BradM> thoreauputic, i love you
[01:56] <joseph> sudharsh: not seeing what I think I want to see in behaviour tab.
[01:56] <sudharsh> wait mate
[01:56] <joseph> k
[01:56] <BradM> erm
[01:56] <BradM> i thought wine came in the package manager
[01:56] <sudharsh> uncheck th 'always open in browser windowa'
[01:58] <joseph> sudharsh: does this make nautilus behave the way that it does in debian by default?
[01:58] <sudharsh> try it
[01:58] <limguohong91> It gave me this when I use usr/bin/wine (wine: cannot open (null)
[01:58] <limguohong91> )
[01:58] <joseph> why does not ubuntu have a home folder on desktop
[01:58] <mwe> limguohong91: you can't just run wine
[01:58] <sudharsh> jus drag it from Places
[01:58] <mwe> limguohong91: you need wine <some.exe>
[01:59] <limguohong91> mwe: do I have to type where is it?
[01:59] <joseph> sudharsh:  I unchecked "always open in browser window" but it is still not spatial nautilus
[01:59] <mwe> limguohong91: where <some.exe> is an actual exe file
[01:59] <sudharsh> u must close any open nautilus windows and reopn it
[01:59] <limguohong91> mwe Ok :)
[01:59] <mwe> limguohong91: try wine notepad.exe
[02:00] <pornsurfer> Ng, here is a question... under the restricted libraries , there aer some for 386 and some for amd K7  , i have athlon 2800 non 64 bit. is the k7 the one i need?
[02:00] <limguohong91> mwe : Warning: Language 'en_SG' was not recognized, defaulting to 'en_US'.
[02:00] <limguohong91> Warning: Language 'en_SG' was not recognized, defaulting to 'en_US'.
[02:00] <limguohong91> Warning: Language 'en_SG' was not recognized, defaulting to 'en_US'.
[02:00] <limguohong91> Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.
[02:00] <limguohong91> Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system" is not accessible.
[02:00] <limguohong91> Warning: could not find DOS drive for current working directory '/home/limguohong91', starting in the Windows directory.
[02:00] <Gunfus> mwe, your technique did worked
[02:00] <joseph> how do I reconfigure my system locale to use US-UTF-8
[02:00] <Gunfus> mwe, THANK!
[02:01] <mwe> \sh: do you know if it's somehow possible to change the default font size for wine? it's tiny here.
[02:01] <mwe> Gunfus: the -o uid= ?
[02:01] <\sh> mwe: sorry no..I'm packaging this stuff ... I'm not using it :)
[02:01] <mwe> \sh: ok
[02:02] <limguohong91> mwe : It did not work......
[02:02] <theine> joseph,  what is your current locale?
[02:02] <\sh> mwe: or let me say it in other words: I don't need to use it, because I have everything on linux :)
[02:03] <joseph> I don't know how to tell
[02:03] <joseph> theine: ^
[02:03] <pornsurfer> sudharsh, under the restricted nvidia libraries , there aer some for 386 and some for amd K7  , i have older athlon 2800 non 64 bit. is the k7 the one i need?
[02:03] <theine> joseph, try "echo ${LANG}"
[02:03] <sudharsh> go for 386...dats safer
[02:03] <viviersf> pornsurfer, yes
[02:03] <viviersf> or
[02:03] <viviersf> 386
[02:03] <pornsurfer> Ok, thanks all !!!
[02:03] <joseph> theine: en_US.UTF-8
[02:03] <joseph> thanks1
[02:04] <theine> joseph, no problem
[02:04] <joseph> now how do I set it to spatial nautilus?
[02:04] <pornsurfer> viviersf, you saying i need the k7?
[02:04] <pornsurfer> oops , 386
[02:04] <viviersf> you can use 386 or k7
[02:04] <viviersf> what kernel you using ?
[02:04] <duncanm> i'm having some problems running Firefox 1.5 on Breezy
[02:04] <viviersf> k7 or 386 ?
[02:04] <duncanm> ./run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  9621 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[02:04] <duncanm>  -- what's this about?
[02:04] <duncanm> i installed libstdc++ already
[02:04] <pornsurfer> 2.6.12-10-386
[02:04] <viviersf> pornsurfer, then use 386 drivers
[02:04] <_jason> duncanm, don't run that.  Run firefox
[02:05] <pornsurfer> viviersf, ok, thank you !
[02:05] <mwe> duncanm: how did you install it?
[02:05] <duncanm> mwe: i'm just running the binary tarball
[02:05] <viviersf> duncanm,
[02:05] <viviersf> you are running the wrong executable
[02:05] <viviersf> dont run the .sh
[02:06] <mwe> duncanm: yes. so you unpacked it and ran the firefox binary?
[02:06] <duncanm> mwe: yeah, which is a shell script
[02:06] <mwe> duncanm: right
[02:06] <_jason> duncanm, see if './firefox' results in the same error
[02:06] <sudharsh> duncanm check this out.....https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:06] <sudharsh> duncanm check this out.....https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:06] <duncanm> that's what i'm doing
[02:06] <duncanm> _jason: i'm running ./firefox
[02:06] <sudharsh> :)
[02:06] <thegladiator> open office is a big mem hog ?  it takes long to load
[02:07] <mwe> duncanm: that's odd. check logs
[02:07] <_jason> duncanm, are you running SCIM?
[02:07] <jenda> thegladiator: yeah... but you can just leae the core open.
[02:07] <duncanm> _jason: i'm, 1.4, though
[02:07] <jenda> leave even
[02:07] <thegladiator> jenda, how can I leave the core open ?
[02:07] <sudharsh> thegladiator...thers oo quick starter
[02:07] <thegladiator> sudharsh, where ?
[02:08] <thegladiator> !oo
[02:08] <joseph> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ ---> spatial nautilus ---> 0 results of about 7189 pages
[02:08] <ubotu> thegladiator: Wish i knew
[02:08] <sudharsh> click add to panel in panel
[02:08] <thegladiator> !ooepnoffice
[02:08] <ubotu> Wish i knew, thegladiator
[02:08] <_jason> duncanm, you may want to check if that is the problem if you can't think of anything else
[02:08] <mwe> can't you wait ten secons for it to start?
[02:08] <sudharsh> u can add that to the panel
[02:08] <lowman62> duncanm: I just came in here ...are you installing version 1.5?
[02:08] <thegladiator> mwe, I could but what if every doc takes the same time
[02:08] <duncanm> lowman62: yeah
[02:09] <thegladiator> ?
[02:09] <lowman62> duncanm: there is a special way to install that ...hold on I have it for you
[02:09] <duncanm> _jason: i guess so, the scim in breezy is really botched
[02:09] <lowman62> duncanm: do this http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/45917/index.html
[02:09] <sudharsh> thegladiator right click on the top panel
[02:09] <duncanm> lowman62: if you're talking about the wiki, that i know already, thanks
[02:09] <thegladiator> sudharsh, ok and ?
[02:09] <lowman62> is not the wiki duncanm
[02:10] <sudharsh> Add to panel OO quick starter
[02:10] <thegladiator> i am on kde
[02:10] <thegladiator> its not there for kde?
[02:10] <duncanm> i fear the problem is with scim, though
[02:10] <sudharsh> oops sorry.i dont use kde
[02:10] <thegladiator> np.
[02:10] <jenda> thegladiator: you can just close all the documents open and leave the blank window open.
[02:10] <jenda> !openoffice
[02:10] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, jenda
[02:10] <sudharsh> thegladiator..anyways open up a terminal
[02:11] <thegladiator> jenda, yes and?
[02:11] <jenda> thegladiator: that's it - if you just leave it open - it won't have to load every time.
[02:11] <thegladiator> yes got you
[02:11] <sudharsh> thegladiator....i remember seeing oo quick starter in synaptic
[02:11] <thegladiator> i shall check it out
[02:12] <thegladiator> its a package ?
[02:12] <sudharsh> try that...my synaptic is now busy
[02:12] <jenda> thegladiator: but if there's a better solution, then don't pay me any attention :)
[02:12] <joseph> I need information on how to get nautilus into spatial mode
[02:12] <ninapina> hi - where do i get a .deb for Firefox 1.5?
[02:12] <sudharsh> joseph: thats didnt work?
[02:12] <joseph> no
[02:12] <thegladiator> jenda, i can assess both mothods , so yoru opinion is valued
[02:13] <sudharsh> joseph: it works for me??
[02:13] <thegladiator> sudharsh, how much does a 512 MB DDR cost in Ind ?
[02:13] <sudharsh> !!
[02:13] <ubotu> ??
[02:13] <jenda> thegladiator: alrighty (ATM, I'm looking to install the quick starter as well
[02:13] <thegladiator> sudharsh, my mem is 256
[02:13] <sudharsh> costs around 2300/- in chennai
[02:13] <joseph> sudharsh: I just did a brand-new fresh install of ubuntu, so...
[02:13] <thegladiator> sudharsh, thanks
[02:13] <joseph> sudharsh: do I need to restart X for this to work?
[02:13] <sudharsh> joseph: no not needed
[02:14] <sudharsh> what did u do...?
[02:14] <sudharsh> u must uncheck the 'open in browser windows'
[02:14] <sudharsh> in behaviour tab
[02:14] <thegladiator> ooqs is there for kde and gnome . good
[02:14] <sudharsh> thegladiator: tell me if it works
[02:14] <thegladiator> yes
[02:14] <thegladiator> will do that
[02:15] <joseph> I unchecked the following:  System ---> File System ---> Behavior --->  Always open in browser windows
[02:15] <sudharsh> no....
[02:15] <sudharsh> preferences
[02:15] <thegladiator> joseph, whats the problem again  ?  i missed the conversation
[02:15] <joseph> I want to enable spatial nautilus
[02:15] <thegladiator> i have been toggling with these things
[02:15] <nase> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[02:15] <nase> how do i fix this
[02:15] <thegladiator> ah.
[02:15] <sudharsh> nase..install kernel headers
[02:16] <thegladiator> it is by default spatial you changed it ?
[02:16] <nase> i did
[02:16] <nase> along with libsdl-dev
[02:16] <thegladiator> or am I wrong?
[02:16] <joseph> thegladiator: it is by default spatial?
[02:16] <sudharsh> joseph: dont kick me....u must uncheck it
[02:16] <caugier> is there someone working on the livecd here?
[02:16] <sudharsh> no not in breezy
[02:16] <theine> Is /etc/locale.gen somehow deprecated in Dapper?
[02:16] <nase> sudharsh, how do i do that then
[02:17] <theine> It does not exist anymore on my system and therefore nothing happens if I do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales"...
[02:17] <sudharsh> sorry...did u install kernel headers
[02:17] <joseph> System ---> Preferences ---> File Management ---> Behavior---> Always open in browser windows
[02:17] <nase> sudharsh, whats the apt-get thing for that?
[02:17] <theine> or "sudo locale-gen" for that matter
[02:17] <joseph> sudharsh: ^ that is what I did
[02:17] <sudharsh> ah wait
[02:17] <sudharsh> h\joseph try restarting X
[02:17] <sudharsh> worked for me outta box
[02:17] <joseph> oh wait
[02:18] <joseph> sudharsh: it works, unless I choose Applications -->  Accessories ---> File Browser
[02:18] <joseph> but that is normal
[02:18] <thegladiator> my  comp has started to upgrade oo
[02:18] <jenda> thegladiator: can't find oo quickstarter in the repos. any luck yet?
[02:18] <thegladiator> i can find it jenda
[02:18] <jenda> thegladiator: and what's it called?
[02:18] <sudharsh> nase: try apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:19] <thegladiator> ooqs
[02:19] <joseph> sudharsh: thanks
[02:19] <phlax> hi there - ive upgraded to dapper, and my second xinerama screen (os radeon driver) has ceased to work. I was wondering if anyone knows of changes in X that might have caused this, or should i file a bug?
[02:19] <nase> E: Couldn't find package kernel-headers-2.6.12-9-386
[02:19] <thegladiator> seacrh for ooqsgnome /ooqskde
[02:19] <thegladiator> you can find it ?
[02:19] <star07> hiall
[02:19] <sudharsh> oh do an apt-get update
[02:19] <thegladiator> star07, hi
[02:19] <star07> first time here
[02:19] <joseph> on to my next question:  why does ubuntu show ESD as audio output and OSS for input?  shouldn't it be ALSA for both?
[02:19] <thegladiator> jenda, its there ?
[02:19] <jenda> thegladiator: OK, got it
[02:19] <thegladiator> kl
[02:20] <sudharsh> joseph: u just change it if u wnat :)
[02:20] <star07> i got a question to ask
[02:20] <sudharsh> ask...
[02:20] <thegladiator> !ask
[02:20] <sophtpaw> can someone tell me how to unrar
[02:20] <star07> is it possible i remote access windows PC from ubuntu?
[02:21] <Myrtti> unrar -e
[02:21] <sudharsh> sudo apt-get rar
[02:21] <sudharsh> sudo apt-get install rar
[02:21] <sudharsh> sorry
[02:21] <star07> will remote thru the VPN
[02:21] <phlax> star07: tightvnc
[02:21] <sudharsh> tinyvnc!
[02:21] <nase> sudharsh, so whats up? why cant i install kernel headers
[02:21] <shaggy_bjp> hello everyone
[02:21] <sophtpaw> ok, then unrar -e
[02:21] <phlax> star07: *vnc
[02:21] <joseph> sudharsh: what are the differences between ESD and ALSA
[02:21] <star07> oh
[02:21] <sudharsh> ESD -> Enlightenment Sound Demon
[02:21] <star07> any version of VNC will do, is it? then windows PC must have VNC also?
[02:22] <sudharsh> nase: go to synaptic then
[02:22] <joseph> sudharsh:  but isn't ESD just a front-end for ALSA?
[02:22] <nase> sudharsh, Unpacking linux-kernel-headers (from .../linux-kernel-headers_2.6.11.2-0ubuntu13_i386.deb) ...
[02:22] <Hoxzer> what would be good direct connect client?
[02:22] <nase> thats in my konsole history
[02:22] <phlax> star07: install *vnc on windows then use terminal server client on ubuntu
[02:22] <sudharsh> cool mate
[02:22] <nase> so i already have it installed... right?
[02:22] <sudharsh> joseph oh i didnt know that
[02:22] <joseph> I don't know either
[02:22] <star07> oh, so this is the software that MUST install on windows PC lo?
[02:23] <phlax> star07: i think its called that - my apps menu is broken!
[02:23] <sudharsh> terminal server client
[02:23] <star07> wat u means, phlax?
[02:23] <phlax> star07: tsclient
[02:23] <star07> oh
[02:23] <sudharsh> star07 terminal server client
[02:23] <thegladiator> when dapper comes , I can  upgrade or something ? rather than doing a fresh install ?
[02:23] <nase> sudharsh, linux-kernel-headers is already the newest version.
[02:23] <nase> sudharsh,  still doesnt work though.
[02:23] <thegladiator> i dont wanna lose my present config
[02:23] <phlax> star07: ...is the program to use on ubuntu to connect to a windows vnc box.
[02:24] <thegladiator> and all those third party support
[02:24] <star07> oic, now understand....thx everyone
[02:24] <sudharsh> nase: i suggest d/l the vanilla kernel and compile it
[02:24] <nase> why..
[02:24] <star07> is all of u using breezy now?
[02:24] <thegladiator> like pop in the CD and hit UPGRADE as does Windows XP , over a win 98 :)
[02:24] <sudharsh> well breezy does that
[02:25] <sudharsh> upgraded from hoary to breezy
[02:25] <thegladiator> i see . i did a fresh install
[02:25] <sudharsh> of coure u must put the cd while 'in' the desktop
[02:25] <thegladiator> thats cool
[02:25] <jenda> thegladiator: change your sources list and type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and you're done
[02:26] <thegladiator> jenda, not even the cd is required in that case ?
[02:26] <jenda> Yeah
[02:26] <sudharsh> that broke my bud's system
[02:26] <jenda> I think
[02:26] <jenda> But yes - it's a little unpolished
[02:26] <phos-phoros> "sudo apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade ?
[02:26] <star07> how's the breezy?
[02:26] <sudharsh> gladiator dat broke my friends installation
[02:26] <star07> i still using hoary
[02:26] <sudharsh> star07 go for it
[02:26] <thegladiator> sudharsh, as jenda said , is it possible to do it online without the cd even ?
[02:26] <star07> Mm..ok...
[02:26] <sudharsh> it is but broke my friends pc
[02:26] <thegladiator> star07, always the newer version is better
[02:27] <star07> so, i just use apt-get will update to breezy?
[02:27] <sudharsh> but results may vary and its not recommended
[02:27] <star07> need to change any at sources.list?
[02:27] <sudharsh> yes
[02:27] <_jason> ubotu, tell star07 about breezy
[02:27] <joseph> why does synaptic show 2 instances of "linux-image-2.6.12-10-386"
[02:27] <sudharsh> change all instances of hoary to breezy....
[02:27] <jenda> star07: yes, definitely. Youcan get a complete sources.list here:
[02:27] <jenda> !easysource
[02:27] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:28] <sudharsh> must be of diff architecture
[02:28] <cr4ck5h07> whats the command to run wine on ubuntu i forgot :(
[02:28] <sudharsh> cr4ck5h07 u cant run wine as it is
[02:28] <ccooke> cr4ck5h07: have you installed it?
[02:28] <j2daosh> ok... back... how do i add multiple commands to a line? not with the | command...
[02:28] <sudharsh> use  wine <name of the exe>
[02:28] <cr4ck5h07> I think i lauched it before
[02:28] <ccooke> cr4ck5h07: sudo apt-get install wine
[02:28] <ccooke> cr4ck5h07: that'll install it
[02:28] <cr4ck5h07> just to install wine i mean
[02:29] <sudharsh> separate the command with ;
[02:29] <cr4ck5h07> just to type in alt + F2 i mean the command
[02:29] <phlax> cr4ck5h07: its worth checking out the wine repository at sourceforge for recent versions - they have debs.
[02:29] <sudharsh> cr4ck5h07 open up a terminal
[02:29] <j2daosh> so i can do a cut -f1 -d' ' ; cut -f5 -d' ' > User and that will cut field 1 and 5 and drop them into a file called user?
[02:30] <sudharsh> yes but it'll be taken as separate commands if thats what u want
[02:30] <joseph> what is the difference between ESD and ALSA?
[02:30] <star07> Mm...still very new on ubuntu....  so, dunno wat can do under the ubuntu...:)
[02:30] <ccooke> j2daosh: better would be to use: awk '{print $1" "$5}'
[02:30] <sudharsh> star07 are a wannabe developer like me
[02:30] <cr4ck5h07> I think it was  "wine progman" or something i just need a  little correction
[02:30] <thegladiator> sudharsh, are there many in chn who uses ubuntu , hows the popularity there ? are you a student
[02:30] <sudharsh> *u
[02:30] <j2daosh> well i want the name and the pid side by side when they get dropped into the file
[02:30] <sudharsh> yes....
[02:31] <j2daosh> yeah i tried that ccooke but i need other parameters... it wouldn't take that command
[02:31] <sudharsh> our LUG once gave away bout 50 o them in a school
[02:31] <thegladiator> sudharsh, thats great .
[02:31] <star07> what is wanabe developer means?
[02:32] <sudharsh> :D...u bet..my mom's school has 5 pcs runnin em
[02:32] <j2daosh> u wanna be a devloper
[02:32] <JoeBlow> star07, it means u wanna be a developer
[02:32] <j2daosh> lol
[02:32] <JoeBlow> star07, its in english
[02:32] <star07> oh
[02:32] <lowman62> I know ubuntu became real popular in my neighborhood...my cds are making their way up the block :)
[02:32] <star07> heehee
[02:32] <JoeBlow> star07, jp
[02:32] <thegladiator> thats simply amazing, a school using something as coo as ubuntu in India . wow
[02:32] <star07> i still in blur
[02:32] <star07> jp?
[02:32] <JoeBlow> lowman62, thats great, i got my father in law to try it the other day
[02:32] <sophtpaw> can someone help me
[02:32] <sophtpaw> i'm puzzled
[02:32] <thegladiator> !someone
[02:32] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[02:32] <sophtpaw> trying to unrar files in a folder
[02:33] <JoeBlow> lowman62, kinda wich i hadnt tho, because he calls me constantly now with quesations
[02:33] <sudharsh> Chennai is known for the open source practice..
[02:33] <sophtpaw> but it wont let me cd into the folder - says it isn't there!
[02:33] <JoeBlow> sophtpaw, just use the program
[02:33] <lowman62> JoeBlow: my neighbors are all fed up with windows...not that i blame them :P
[02:33] <j2daosh> tar -vft file
[02:33] <sophtpaw> but it clearly is because i can see it
[02:33] <thegladiator> sudharsh, good. are you working or student?
[02:33] <sudharsh> sopthpaw did u install rar
[02:33] <sudharsh> student
[02:33] <JoeBlow> lowman62, I hate windows, peice of shit, but i gotta play games somehow
[02:33] <sophtpaw> JoeBlow: the program?
[02:33] <et0> I keep getting "No Symbols found" when I try to run X after I installed Ubuntu. dpkg-reconfigure doesnt work. Any clues or hints?
[02:34] <JoeBlow> sophtpaw, my ubuntu 5.10 came with a program for .rar
[02:34] <lowman62> JoeBlow: I know what you mean...my neighborhood is in my icq list errr :P
[02:34] <sudharsh> JoeBlow it doesnt
[02:34] <JoeBlow> lowman62, my neighborhood in america wouldnt even know what ICQ was
[02:34] <sudharsh> thats in the repos...its the non-free thingy
[02:34] <sophtpaw> JoeBlow: so tell me how you'd unrar files in a folder /home/JoeBlow for eg
[02:34] <superante> hi
[02:35] <JoeBlow> sophtpaw, if i find it real fast on synaptic, im gonna punch u in the face
[02:35] <superante> new ubuntu user
[02:35] <superante> ;)
[02:35] <thegladiator> sudharsh, !new
[02:35] <JoeBlow> * punches supernate
[02:35] <thegladiator> !new
[02:35] <ubotu> thegladiator: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:35] <thegladiator> :)
[02:35] <lowman62> JoeBlow: I am so glad I am not a gamer...not to say anything wrong with that..it is just that I can just step away from windows completely...I told my wife that the breezy version I put on her laptop was the new windows version and she loves it LOL ...but she hates linux ;)
[02:35] <j2daosh> untar -vft filename /home/joeblow
[02:35] <JoeBlow> sophtpaw, its called unrar free
[02:35] <caugier> hi, is there anyone who knows who i should contact for questions about the livecd ?
[02:35] <sophtpaw> :o
[02:35] <JoeBlow> lowman62, my wife loves linux , cause now she can say fuc windows, thats the only reason why
[02:35] <lowman62> JoeBlow: I am the neighborhood computer repair guy LOL
[02:36] <sudharsh> caugier uv come to the rite [lace
[02:36] <sophtpaw> JoeBlow: ok, so you don't do it from command line. I still find it odd that i cant cd into a folder that is clearly there
[02:36] <JoeBlow> lowman62, im the neighberhood drunkj
[02:36] <JoeBlow> sophtpaw, i always can
[02:36] <j2daosh> soph... any of it capped?
[02:36] <sudharsh> i m the neighbourhood brat :)
[02:36] <lowman62> JoeBlow: beats being the town idiot tho huh ? LOL
[02:36] <j2daosh> because linux is picky about that
[02:36] <geforceter> newbie says:  I want to try the ubuntu 5.1 live cd but i dono how to configure my graphic settings so its works...
[02:36] <caugier> sudharsh: ah good :-) so you know (or someone else) how th change the kernel (package) in a livecd?
[02:36] <JoeBlow> lowman62 , now , he even gets his own cards!
[02:37] <JoeBlow> lowman62 , no , he even gets his own cards!
[02:37] <sudharsh> u cant
[02:37] <j2daosh> i hate my nieghbors so i dont go outside
[02:37] <j2daosh> lol
[02:37] <JoeBlow> lowman62 , I just get arrested
[02:37] <Guardian> hi ppl
[02:37] <JoeBlow> I hate my neighbors too, but i only hang around outswide my house if im grilling, otherwise im in town
[02:37] <sophtpaw> j2daosh: yes, i have kept to the correct sizes
[02:37] <geforceter> it loads up until the logo and all but when it shu go to the desktop it shows purplish lines
[02:37] <JoeBlow> HI GUARDIAN!!!
[02:37] <j2daosh> sizes?
[02:37] <sudharsh> caugier..u cant change the kernel pkg in live cds
[02:37] <j2daosh> im talking capitol letters
[02:38] <sudharsh> geforceter check the xorg.conf
[02:38] <sophtpaw> yes, capital letters
[02:38] <Guardian> hi just installed ubuntu, the grub menu does not respond to the up/down keys, any idea :) ? (i'm on a dell inspiron 8600 laptop)
[02:38] <j2daosh> can u get to it in the gui?
[02:38] <JoeBlow> time to smoke a ciggarette
[02:38] <j2daosh> joe... damn u
[02:38] <lowman62> JoeBlow: I am bringing in on average of $500 extra from neighbors insisting on installing norton futilities...and destroying their systems for lack of knowledge on how to use it properly :P
[02:38] <j2daosh> now i need one
[02:38] <caugier> sudharsh: i meant making a custom livecd with a custom kernel ;-)
[02:38] <geforceter> sudharsh: ya i came here before and they told me to do the sudo thing
[02:38] <JoeBlow> lowman62, dude, i shuld do that, but its hard to do here, u have to get a+. and its in german here
[02:38] <sophtpaw> yes,
[02:39] <sudharsh> caugier...i m not that advanced user :0
[02:39] <rraajj> Guardian: Does it happen all the time? Even at a fresh boot?
[02:39] <sudharsh> ubuntu-dev channels may help u
[02:39] <geforceter> but i tried setting the frequency for my crt monitor maualy but with no avail
[02:39] <lowman62> JoeBlow: I have been working on computers for years long before the internet went public...I refuse to get certs based on windblowz
[02:39] <Guardian> rraajj: before i had gentoo, and grub worked correctly
[02:40] <sophtpaw> j2daosh: one of my folders is Desktop iwth a capital 'D' and i can access that in CLI. why not Hikaru?
[02:40] <caugier> sudharsh: k, that's why i was asking about the place, i guess some kind of #ubuntu-dev must exist. do you know?
[02:40] <Guardian> rraajj: in fact keyboard is not working at all, when on the grub menu
[02:40] <sudharsh> ubuntu-developer
[02:40] <rraajj> Guardian: I mean does it happen even at powerup? It also happens to me, but only when I "soft reboot". (ctrl+alt+del)
[02:40] <sudharsh> check the website for the list
[02:41] <lowman62> <--smoke break :)
[02:41] <et0> I keep getting "No Symbols found" when I try to run X after I installed Ubuntu. dpkg-reconfigure doesnt work. Any clues or hints?
[02:41] <Guardian> rraajj: weird, gonna try with power up :)
[02:41] <caugier> sudharsh: i was looking for something more interactive but thx :-)
[02:41] <geforceter> ...?
[02:42] <sudharsh> geforceter install the nvidia glx package
[02:42] <sudharsh> if u r havin nvidia that is
[02:42] <geforceter> ya i am having it
[02:42] <geforceter> xfx 6600gt
[02:43] <geforceter> so its not a problem with the monitor?
[02:43] <sudharsh> no..i dont think so
[02:43] <star07> after i upgrade to breezy, will all my previous setting gone??
[02:43] <nase> just do a dist-upgrade
[02:43] <nase> o_O
[02:43] <star07> ^_^
[02:44] <tvo> hm, in which package(s) is /usr/include/GL/gl.h supposed to be? (dapper)
[02:44] <sudharsh> star07 r u havin a separate home partiton
[02:44] <karlwrk> I realise this might be kinda vague, but has anyone reported serious USB storage performance issues with recent kernels?
[02:44] <star07> wat means?
[02:45] <sudharsh> karlwrk..me yess with unbranded roadside devices
[02:45] <star07> i think i dun hav
[02:45] <karlwrk> rsync from a usb drive with the 2.6.12 breezy stock kernel reports 20meg a second, and takes a real time of about 1minute
[02:45] <karlwrk> but with 2.6.15, rsync still reports around 20meg/sec, but a real time of nearly 6 minutes,
[02:45] <star07> how i seperate it?
[02:45] <sudharsh> star07 it doesnt matter....but it helps while switching between distros
[02:45] <star07> oh
[02:45] <karlwrk> during which time the load average gets up to about 6, and the system is almost unresponsive
[02:46] <star07> can explain to me how it help?
[02:46] <geforceter2> i was disconnected
[02:46] <karlwrk> I've tried using the anticipatory and the cfq IO schedulers, but they don't seem to be the culprit
[02:46] <star07> i not very understand on it.
[02:46] <karlwrk> sudharsh: what do you mean by unbranded roadside drivers?
[02:46] <sudharsh> star07 lets suppose u migrate from ubuntu to fedora
[02:47] <sudharsh> u know the cheap unbrande stuff
[02:47] <JoeBlow> sudharsh, we are just supposing tho
[02:47] <star07> ok
[02:47] <karlwrk> cheap unbranded hardware you mean?
[02:47] <karlwrk> I'dbuy that if it was just always bad,
[02:47] <sudharsh> yup,,,o i meant devices
[02:47] <geforceter2> sudharsh : how do i intall the glx package?
[02:47] <karlwrk> but it was perfectly acceptable and normal with 2.6.12, but abyssmal with 2.6.15
[02:47] <lowman62> ok am back
[02:47] <lowman62> what i miss ;P
[02:47] <sudharsh> try apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:48] <JoeBlow> the funny thing is, we all have our own hands, but we come from different moms
[02:48] <renedox> lowman62: not a lot
[02:48] <karlwrk> nvidia-glx for the usb storage problems?
[02:48] <lowman62> renedox: ty :P
[02:48] <sudharsh> no it wasnt meant for u karwlk
[02:48] <geforceter2> the package come with the live cd?
[02:48] <sudharsh> does all other hw work
[02:48] <karlwrk> sorry, yeah, saw it was for geforceter2
[02:49] <karlwrk> sudharsh: yeah, everything else is cool
[02:49] <sudharsh> no it doesnt..
[02:49] <star07> so, sudharsh, means if i migrate from unbuntu to fedora, the home won't change, is it?
[02:49] <sudharsh> karlwrk what about lsusb and all
[02:49] <karlwrk> still have the kubuntu automount bug, but that's the same as it was with both kernels
[02:49] <sudharsh> bungo star07
[02:49] <star07> if seperate, then means still a bit troublesome, is it?
[02:50] <sudharsh> well u still egt ur themes and all
[02:50] <sudharsh> it aint troiblesome
[02:50] <star07> i'm not apt-get updating the breezy....^_^
[02:51] <joseph> "Open in new tab" does not work in Xchat
[02:51] <star07> *now, typo
[02:51] <star07> :)
[02:51] <geforceter2> how can i install the nvidia glx packgae using a live cd
[02:51] <sudharsh> well done...
[02:51] <geforceter2> hope i am not irritating
[02:51] <sudharsh> geforceter2 u cant..
[02:51] <et0> I keep getting "No Symbols found" when I try to run X after I installed Ubuntu. dpkg-reconfigure doesnt work. Any clues or hints?
[02:51] <sudharsh> nvidia glx in available only in online repos
[02:52] <karlwrk> sudharsh: and?
[02:52] <karlwrk> you can still edit sources.list and apt-get while running
[02:52] <karlwrk> just that I don't think you can actually _use_ the new driver :)
[02:52] <sudharsh> yeah but whats the use
[02:52] <star07> how come in gnome, capture screen need to use GIMP to capture?
[02:52] <joseph> for example:  "addons.mozilla.org"  <---right-click and choose "Mozilla Firefox" and then "Open in new tab".  The tab does not open ever.
[02:52] <star07> any other ways more easy?
[02:52] <geforceter2> ping
[02:53] <karlwrk> well, it's more useful for other packages :)
[02:53] <_jason> star07, Prn Scr button
[02:53] <sudharsh> u can use the 'print screen' in ur keyboard
[02:53] <geforceter3> shit dc again
[02:53] <sudharsh> and paste it wherever u want
[02:53] <_jason> star07, or system -> take screenshot
[02:53] <Sionide> on
[02:53] <Sionide> oops
[02:53] <Catch22> hello, im currently downloading ubuntu, but ive got a question; ive got an SMC wlan PCI card which wasnt supported by mandrake 10.. is it possible to see if this card is supported by ubuntu?
[02:53] <star07> after i press, when want to paste somewhere, the "paste" is disable one
[02:53] <sudharsh> u gotta paste in gimp lol
[02:53] <netstar> Where's the best place to get ubuntu wallpapers from?
[02:53] <yancheng> where can i get the dos2unix tool in ubuntu?
[02:54] <sudharsh> try gnome-look.org
[02:54] <star07> _jason, i got it
[02:54] <sudharsh> dosbox
[02:54] <karlwrk> Catch22: given how clearly wlan cards are marked, the only reliable way is to try it out
[02:54] <Catch22> mkay..
[02:54] <karlwrk> with 5.04, you often couldn't even try it out with a live cd :(
[02:54] <geforceter3> suddahrsh i might install the full ubuntu version but i am hesistant because i fear the graphic might not be supported again
[02:54] <star07> sudharsh, i had try paste on gimp, it still in disable mode
[02:54] <Catch22> i tried it with a wrapper in mandrake but that didnt work so well
[02:54] <Catch22> ndiswrapper
[02:54] <Catch22> caused a lot of troubles
[02:54] <sudharsh> well it should work
[02:54] <star07> that's what i confuse how i going to do
[02:54] <geforceter3> the last two times i installed debian and ubuntu i coundnt get the graphical interface and gave up
[02:54] <karlwrk> yeah, the wrapper normally works, but it's extremely hard to make sure you are wrapping the right driver :(
[02:54] <Catch22> (im really a linux n00b so dont kill me when i say something newbie)
[02:55] <Catch22> k karlwrk
[02:55] <Madpilot> star07: what happens when you just hit your "Print Screen" button?
[02:55] <sudharsh> geforceter show the output of xorg.conf in #flood
[02:55] <star07> after i press
[02:55] <sexcopter8000m> i've just changed the sound settings to not make that (annoying) sound when i click on things, but it's still there. do i need to restart the sound engine or something? if so, how?
[02:55] <star07> then i open GIMP, think to paste it out
[02:55] <karlwrk> Catch22: on the bright side, it's a lot easier now that it was 6 months ago :)
[02:55] <star07> but it can't
[02:55] <joseph> for example:  "addons.mozilla.org"  <---right-click and choose "Mozilla Firefox" and then "Open in new tab".  The tab does not open ever.
[02:55] <lowman62> you can get wallpapers here http://www.linuxhotbox.com/fun/linuxwallpapers/linux-wallpaper.26.htm
[02:55] <Catch22> oke, my last expierence was about a year ago
[02:55] <star07> i need to use File->Acquire-> ... to get the screen shot
[02:56] <Catch22> i still have to use the ndiswrapper ?
[02:57] <netstar> thanks man
[02:57] <joseph> how do I install nvidia openGL driver?
[02:58] <et0> Hello, I get "No symbols found" when I try to run X. Just installed Ubuntu. reconfiguring doesnt work.
[02:58] <sudharsh> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:58] <joseph> sudharsh:  does that give 3D support?
[02:59] <Madpilot> star07: are you running Ubuntu w/ Gnome? There should be a screenshot util that pops up when you hit Print Screen...
[02:59] <sudharsh> yes it does...mostly
[02:59] <star07> is it? madpilot?
[02:59] <joseph> sudharsh: what does this mean 'mostly'? is this an open-source reverse-engineering of the nvidia driver?
[02:59] <sudharsh> know nvidia's own driver
[03:00] <sudharsh> its propeitory..
[03:00] <Kibou> ..
[03:00] <joseph> sudharsh: so it's just an ubuntu packaging of the nvidia proprietary driver...
[03:00] <sudharsh> well it is in non-free section..so must be
[03:01] <joseph> sudharsh: it's non-free?
[03:01] <Madpilot> star07: try System menu --> Take Screenshot - what happens with that?
[03:01] <sudharsh> wait i blaberred somthin
[03:01] <Catch22> the downloads for ubuntu are slow :/
[03:01] <sudharsh> its in restrictive
[03:02] <sudharsh> not nonfree
[03:02] <sudharsh> see under Graphics(restrictive)
[03:02] <joseph> sudharsh:  I haven't touched my sources.list so this is just what I see as available by default installation of ubuntu
[03:02] <sudharsh> oh...then edit em
[03:03] <joseph> why does nvidia-glx depend on linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386?  I am using 2.6.12-10-686-smp so won't this cause a problem?
[03:03] <joseph> why should I edit them?
[03:03] <sudharsh> dear o dear u hav a dual core processor
[03:04] <sudharsh> ?
[03:04] <joseph> no
[03:04] <joseph> Hyper-Threading P4
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> Hmmm.
[03:04] <sudharsh> joseph check nvidia's site
[03:04] <Q_Cont|Ubuntu> Is it possible to install the 1.5 version of FF via the update manager, or must one break from the Ubuntu upgrade cycle to do so now?
[03:04] <star07_> scared me....look like hang just now
[03:04] <joseph> Isn't 2.6.12-10-686-smp proper for hyperthreading?
[03:04] <sudharsh> yes yes
[03:04] <Q_Cont|Ubuntu> Is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion the instructions I want to follow?
[03:04] <star07> back
[03:04] <sudharsh> yes
[03:05] <joseph> sudharsh: I don't want to use the nvidia proprietary installer.  Isn't there an ubuntu way of doing this?
[03:05] <geforceter> .
[03:05] <Q_Cont|Ubuntu> joseph: hyperthreading is seen by the OS as dual proc, so any SMP-enabled package is correct.
[03:05] <sudharsh> there is...if u dont hav any probs
[03:05] <geforceter> how come i am alwys disconnected?
[03:05] <star07> madpilot, i got it....there really will prompt out the screen after press
[03:05] <et0> Hello, I get "No symbols found" when I try to run X. Just installed Ubuntu. reconfiguring doesnt work.
[03:05] <joseph> so why does nvidia-glx depend upon linux-image-2.6.12-10-386?
[03:06] <RustyJames> is it possible to restore a file which has been remove with rm on fat32 file system and on a ext3 filesystem?
[03:06] <joseph> and linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386
[03:06] <Madpilot> star07: sorry? there really will what?
[03:06] <sudharsh> the nvidia-glx must be a 386 compilation
[03:06] <geforceter> suddarsh: if i install ubuntu in my hd will it support my gfx card out of the box?
[03:06] <sudharsh> geforceter i think u have xfx card
[03:06] <star07> really will pop ou a windows after i press prn scr button
[03:06] <geforceter> ya
[03:07] <joseph> sudharsh: why must I be running a 386 kernel to use nvidia-glx?
[03:07] <star07> *pop out
[03:07] <sudharsh> works mostly...if not install nvidia-glx
[03:07] <geforceter> xfx geforce 6600 gt
[03:07] <sudharsh> dunno joseph..i use a stupid sis
[03:07] <geforceter> but why doesnt the live cd not work
[03:07] <star07> yeah, upgrating dist now...will it effect i chat here? it need restart?
[03:08] <joseph> argh..I was hoping ubuntu had an answer for a basic question like nvidia driver installation1
[03:08] <sudharsh> waht is ur problem..
[03:08] <karlwrk> (it might, remember this is irc, quality of help is variable)
[03:08] <thegladiator> ADEPT is crashing after every install/upgrade that I do . what could be the cause of this ? it does till the last stage seemingly of the installation , and closes all by itself ! and kde signals a crash . I am using kde 3.5 using #kubuntu-dektop package
[03:09] <sudharsh> adept?
[03:09] <thegladiator> adept package manager
[03:09] <joseph> I do not understand why nvidia-glx package depends on linux-image-2.6.12-10-386
[03:09] <sudharsh> i use gnome
[03:09] <thegladiator> adpet is there in default breezy installation
[03:09] <sudharsh> joseph..it will work
[03:09] <hunter_> hi
[03:10] <star07> how can i check now i'm using breezy or hoary?
[03:10] <thegladiator> even in  gnome
[03:10] <hunter_> German here?
[03:10] <hunter_> ??
[03:10] <joseph> sudharsh: but it will require that I install a kernel that is not the one that I want to use, correct?
[03:10] <sudharsh> force nvidia-glx.....to install
[03:11] <joseph> without dependencies?
[03:11] <sudharsh> yup try it...
[03:11] <joseph> ack...it's so unsophisticated
[03:11] <joseph> I'm dubious
[03:12] <sophtpaw> 
[03:12] <sudharsh> joseph...nvidia-glx in my box doesnt depend on 386 kernel
[03:12] <joseph> sudharsh: I am using synaptic
[03:13] <sudharsh> joseph add all the repos first..
[03:13] <et0> Hello, I get "No symbols found" when I try to run X. Just installed Ubuntu. reconfiguring doesnt work.
[03:13] <joseph> which ones?  why aren't the default repos acceptable for this task?
[03:13] <sophtpaw> am i right in thinking that if a website has media    which reuqires quicktime, i cannot watch it
[03:13] <sudharsh> jus enable all of them...
[03:14] <sudharsh> not in linux...using firefox
[03:14] <Genius16> sophtpaw: i dont believe so
[03:14] <sophtpaw> shux
[03:14] <sudharsh> install libquicktime
[03:14] <netstar> anyone got a screenshot of their desktop I can look at?
[03:14] <sudharsh> netstar u want mine
[03:15] <Prozac> how can i install an ident, and how would i define what it should reply on ident request, if maybe an ftp asks for ident
[03:15] <netstar> yeah as long as it isn't too big.
[03:15] <joseph> why does ubuntu only have firefox version 1.0.7?
[03:15] <sudharsh> netstar where do i send em?
[03:15] <netstar> because they're a pain in the butt joseph
[03:15] <mad_phoenix> howdy...so i've been trying to set up a webserver, and when things started heading south i checked to see if i could ping 127.0.0.1...and I couldn't.  Would apache or wordpress affect this?
[03:15] <netstar> !firefox
[03:15] <sudharsh> coz breexy was release b4 firefox 1.5
[03:15] <netstar> !firefox1.5
[03:15] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:16] <Genius16> its a good walkthrough
[03:16] <netstar> that works fine, imo.
[03:16] <lowman62> joseph: you can install 1.5 but do what ubotu sent you
[03:16] <Madpilot> joseph: because 1.5 was released after Breezy was released - 1.5 will be in Dapper in a few months, though
[03:17] <lowman62> Madpilot: is dapper going to be the upgrade to breezy?
[03:18] <sudharsh> netstar where can i send u the screenshot
[03:18] <renedox> speaking of firefox
[03:18] <renedox> how do I update to 1.5?
[03:18] <netstar> erm via IRC
[03:18] <netstar>  /dcc send netstar filename
[03:18] <sudharsh> how..i m new to irc
[03:18] <sophtpaw> shame, libquicktime, didn't do it. Not in Opera, Firefox or Epiphany
[03:19] <lowman62> sophtpaw: what are you trying to do?
[03:19] <netstar> sophtpaw, linux quicktime MOV support?
[03:19] <sophtpaw> under what circumstances does libquicktime make quicktime media available?
[03:19] <netstar> sophtpaw, about none.
[03:19] <netstar> :P
[03:19] <sophtpaw> i am trying to watch a vid on a website which requires quicktime
[03:20] <sudharsh> try pasting the url in totem-
[03:20] <lowman62> what is the web site sophtpaw?
[03:20] <Genius16> i believe i installed the firefox media player to get it working?
[03:20] <Sh4d0x> hi all
[03:20] <Sh4d0x> happy new year btw
[03:20] <Guardian> I just installed xubuntu, where is the xfce desktop directory ? i just downloaded a file with firefox to the desktop but nothing shows up. when i click on "open" in the firefox downloads dialog nothing happens, seems that the file has been downloaded to /dev/null
[03:21] <lowman62> sh4d0x: hi, happy new year
[03:21] <star07> hi, sh4d0x
[03:21] <sophtpaw> lowan62: http://johnderuiter.com/Seminar_Excerpts.html
[03:21] <netstar> Guardian, $HOME/Desktop
[03:21] <sudharsh> look in .xfce
[03:21] <Sh4d0x> i got a question: when i start my bittorend it asks me for a "metafile" what should i select there?
[03:21] <netstar> xfce doesn't understand the concept of  Desktop afaik,
[03:21] <sudharsh> Sh4d0x the torrent file
[03:22] <Sh4d0x> sudharsh, and where can i find that one :$
[03:22] <lowman62> sophtpaw: mplayer-plugin...it is working for me
[03:22] <sophtpaw> huh!
[03:23] <sudharsh> u gotta d/l torrents from torrentsearch.com
[03:23] <maze> !java
[03:23] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:23] <netstar> anyone know a site where you can upload images?
[03:23] <lowman62> sophtpaw: get the mplayer-plugin...that will work
[03:23] <Guardian> netstar: i don't have $HOME/Desktop :/
[03:23] <sophtpaw> lowman62: directly from the website? or did you as sudharsh suggested, paste it into totem?
[03:23] <Sh4d0x> sudharsh thnxx i'll give it a try
[03:23] <Sh4d0x> cya
[03:24] <lowman62> no it is running in firefox for me now using mplayer-plugin
[03:24] <sophtpaw> lowman62: pretty sure i already have it, but i'll try again
[03:24] <karlwrk> netstar: photobucket might work?
[03:24] <karlwrk> but it's not as simple as a pastebin
[03:24] <sudharsh> okies
[03:24] <lowman62> sophtpaw: then you do not have it configured properly if you do
[03:24] <netstar> thanks kafeine
[03:24] <netstar> karlwk even
[03:24] <errr_> What package do I need to install to get ./compile: line 6: ucs2any: command not found  this error fixed???  I cant find ucs2any in synaptic anywhere..
[03:24] <maze> !diskmounter
[03:24] <ubotu> diskmounter is, like, totally, to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[03:25] <lowman62> sophtpaw: the mplayer-plugin not just mplayer
[03:26] <sophtpaw> lowman62: synaptic doesn't show mplayer-plugin
[03:26] <sudharsh> gtg
[03:26] <_jason> sophtpaw, mozilla-mplayer I think
[03:26] <sudharsh> bye
[03:26] <s_spiff> hey are the repo's working?
[03:26] <lowman62> sophtpaw: If memory serves me correctly...I got mine from the mplayer website
[03:26] <s_spiff>  i cant seem to download any of the stuff!
[03:27] <thegladiator> i did a memtest86+ on my system . how can I explain this to my vendor that the memory is having problems ? normal cases reported are complete memory crashings like windows not booting etc.
[03:27] <sophtpaw> ok
[03:27] <_jason> !info mozilla-mplayer
[03:27] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: (MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 3.05-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 366 kB, Installed size: 1340 kB
[03:27] <s_spiff> ok now they are
[03:27] <netstar> thegladiator, tell them you run memtest86 as it's acceptable industry-wide as a valuable resource.
[03:27] <thegladiator> or the computer rebooting all of a sudden , as for me my aps crash due to seg faults
[03:27] <jono> a while back I tried to load a file from a windows share into OpenOffice.org and it would not allow it - I want to be able to load the file into OpenOffice.org from the remote share, be able to edit it and save it to the share - sounds reasonable? Can this be done in Breezy?
[03:28] <lowman62> sophtpaw: check what ubotu just said
[03:28] <thegladiator> netstar, thank you and besides , when you do a memtest you are expected to get no bad bits correct ?
[03:28] <thegladiator> in my memtest I see some bad bits being mentioned .
[03:28] <netstar> thegladiator, right.
[03:28] <Genius16> hey guys ive got a laptop. how to i configure power management? is there a utility automatically installed? im trying to get my system to suspend upon lid closure. would it be laptop dependent?
[03:28] <netstar> Any inconsitencies and your RAM should be thrown in the bin.
[03:28] <thegladiator> netstar, when you do a memtest , somethign comes written below ?  o just blank ?
[03:29] <star07> 8181, sudharsh
[03:29] <netstar> it will inform you of errors thegladiator
[03:29] <sophtpaw> ubotu: where do i get that?
[03:29] <ubotu> sophtpaw: What?
[03:29] <thegladiator> netstar, it doesnt come as pop ups ...under false but ...i gues I can see something
[03:29] <karlwrk> Genius16: yes, it does depend on the laptop.
[03:29] <sophtpaw> mozilla-mplayer
[03:29] <karlwrk> for some of us it "just works"
[03:30] <_jason> sophtpaw, he told you multiverse :)
[03:30] <thegladiator> netstar, i acn see many mem bits being written as good and something under bad as well
[03:30] <karlwrk> and for some it works in varying levels
[03:30] <thegladiator> netstar, in ur case nothing comes written under bad ?
[03:30] <sophtpaw> i have multiverse ticked
[03:30] <netstar> right.
[03:30] <Genius16> karlwrk: i figured so. you wouldnt also know if theres a way to get it to automatically restart the dhcp daemon after suspend. seems to be a problem with this laptop
[03:30] <_jason> sophtpaw, then just sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer, make sure you install mplayer first though
[03:31] <karlwrk> Genius16: apt-get laptop-net is _meant_ to do some of this
[03:31] <karlwrk> for me it at least made it clever enough not to hang trying to dhcp on a linkdown port, but your mileage may vary
[03:31] <sophtpaw> ubotu: i aplogogize. i found mozilla-mplayer in synaptic after all. was looking for mplayer only before
[03:31] <ubotu> sophtpaw: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[03:31] <_jason> ubotu, tell sophtpaw about mplayer
[03:31] <joseph> sudharsh joseph add all the repos first..
[03:31] <_jason> ubotu, tell sophtpaw about yourself
[03:31] <joseph> what repos?
[03:31] <Genius16> thanks ill check that out
[03:32] <thegladiator> netstar, http://pjarillon.free.fr/docs/memory-fail.jpg ... this is almost like what I get . so I can safely say it is a case of failure ? what do you say ?
[03:32] <bur[n] er> anyone using azureus or gnome-btdownload ??  neither of them seem to be working for me lately.  They load up fine, pass the nat test, but just won't get passed 0%
[03:32] <alekandr> How do I start ssh, or check if its running, i checked /etrc(0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7).d/ for the ssh file and couldnt find it
[03:32] <Seveas> alekandr, apt-get install openssh-server
[03:32] <joseph> does anyone know how to install the nvidia driver on ubuntu?
[03:33] <thegladiator> !+nvidia
[03:33] <alekandr> Seveas: thanks mate
[03:33] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[03:33] <netstar> Under Errorswhat number do you get?
[03:33] <et0> Hello, I get "No symbols found" when I try to run X. Just installed Ubuntu. reconfiguring doesnt work.
[03:33] <thegladiator> I didnt check that
[03:33] <netstar> well check it
[03:33] <thegladiator> yes i will check and brb
[03:33] <netstar> more than one and your RAM is broken and needs throwing away.
[03:33] <thegladiator> is the the important parameter ?
[03:33] <netstar> damn straight it is.
[03:33] <maze> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[03:33] <maze> why do i get this error
[03:34] <maze> i do already have kernel headers installed..
[03:34] <thegladiator> yes i will check and brb , even it has more than one , it cud still run a OS , yes ?
[03:34] <alekandr> Oh man, <3 xchat
[03:34] <_jason> maze, you installed build-essential?
[03:34] <netstar> thegladiator, Nope, not reliably anyway.
[03:34] <alekandr> No need to open terminals just /exec -o
[03:34] <thegladiator> yep
[03:34] <thegladiator> brb
[03:34] <maze> _jason, yes
[03:34] <alekandr> _jason: hey mate :)
[03:34] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell joseph about nvidia
[03:34] <_jason> alekandr, hi
[03:34] <sophtpaw> lowman62: got a result. mozilla-mplayer installed the mplayer-plugin needed. Now i can watch my exerpt! thank you. (however, still doesn't work in opera, hmm...)
[03:35] <Q_Continuum> Question: Why is Ubuntu still running on a beta of OO.org 2.0, and the previous incantation of Firefox?
[03:35] <olicat> how can i check the size of a swap partition?
[03:36] <Seveas> Q_Continuum, breezy is stable and does not receive new versions
[03:36] <_jason> Q_Continuum, the way I understand it, ubuntu is a stable release.  So the only updates provided are security related.
[03:36] <lowman62> sophtpaw: sometimes in linux..you just can't have it all...but maybe in time ;)
[03:36] <Seveas> apart from security updates
[03:36] <joseph> thegladiator:  why does nvidia-glx depend upon linux-image-2.6.12-10-386?
[03:36] <Q_Continuum> I assume the next version is in testing...is it possible to use that and get the 'current releases'?
[03:37] <Q_Continuum> (AKA Firefox 1.5, Oo.org 2.0 final...)
[03:37] <jenda> Q_Continuum: It's the debian policy which Ubunut adopted: no updates in the main repos after the release. And exactly what you just said is called backporting and it works on Ubuntu
[03:37] <jenda> !backports
[03:37] <ubotu> somebody said backports was Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[03:37] <sophtpaw> lowman62: i think you're right. And i got too excited. It was downloaded/buffering and got up to 99% but now it has stopped and doesn't open. Seems yet more plugins of sorts are required to finally view the exerpt
[03:37] <Q_Continuum> Thanks.
[03:37] <jenda> np
[03:37] <crimsun> joseph: it doesn't; it depends on a virtual package that is provided by the linux-image you mentioned, among others
[03:38] <sophtpaw> lowman62: but it is possible to view on Linux as you have proved but not on mine for the time being it seems
[03:38] <joseph> crimsun: I'm reading it right there in front of me.
[03:38] <alekandr> Seveas: I suppose I have to write the ssh_config file?
[03:38] <lowman62> sophtpaw: I also installed the w32codecs and that may be the difference
[03:38] <Seveas> alekandr, no
[03:38] <Seveas> it should work out of the box
[03:39] <sophtpaw> lowman62: no, i have those installed too
[03:39] <alekandr> root@deprivation:~# /etc/rc0.d/K20ssh start
[03:39] <alekandr>  * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                                                         [fail] 
[03:39] <crimsun> joseph: what are you reading?
[03:39] <alekandr> :(
[03:39] <et0> I keep getting "No Symbols found" when I try to run X after I installed Ubuntu. dpkg-reconfigure doesnt work. Any clues or hints?
[03:39] <lowman62> sophtpaw: if you take the browser out of focus it will stop playing...is that what happened?
[03:39] <alekandr> Seveas: It fails to start
[03:40] <Seveas> alekandr, errors on the pastebin please
[03:40] <joseph> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6887
[03:40] <crimsun> joseph: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6888
[03:40] <alekandr> All two lines of it :*
[03:41] <crimsun> joseph: note how nvidia-kernel* is a virtual package that those linux-image packages each provide
[03:41] <sophtpaw> lowman62: browser out of focus? i don't understand
[03:41] <joseph> crimsun: it is?  how do I tell that it is a "virtual package"
[03:41] <alekandr> Ok, Seveas Its on pastebin, any ideas?
[03:41] <lowman62> sophtpaw: if you switch from one open program to another during playback it will stop the video and you will have to start it over again
[03:41] <C-O-L-T> where to get cedega deb format?
[03:42] <joseph> crimsun:  The following NEW packages will be installed:
[03:42] <joseph>   linux-image-2.6.12-10-386
[03:42] <crimsun> joseph: it's surrounded by <>s, and packages that satisfy it are listed immediately below.
[03:42] <joseph> crimsun: what am I missing?
[03:42] <maze> Seveas, i keep getting this: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[03:42] <maze>  , but i already have kernel headers installed, any ideas?
[03:42] <crimsun> joseph: uname -r
[03:42] <Seveas> alekandr, /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[03:42] <joseph> 2.6.12-10-686-smp
[03:42] <Seveas> alekandr, as root or with sudo :)
[03:43] <crimsun> joseph: dpkg -l linux-686-smp|grep ^ii
[03:43] <lowman62> sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[03:43] <alekandr> Seveas: lol, i only have a root account on this pc :] 
[03:43] <joseph> crimsun: dpkg -l linux-686-smp|grep ^ii
[03:43] <joseph> No packages found matching linux-686-smp.
[03:43] <crimsun> joseph: install it.
[03:43] <joseph> crimsun: install what?
[03:43] <lowman62> <--smoke break
[03:43] <alekandr> Seveas: Restarted
[03:43] <crimsun> joseph: linux-686-smp
[03:44] <sophtpaw> lowman62: i don't know. Same thing in Epiphany. It buffers fine till 99% and then stops
[03:44] <Seveas> alekandr, that worked?
[03:45] <alekandr> Seveas: indeed, thanks
[03:45] <joseph> crimsun:  why linux-686-smp and not linux-image-686-smp
[03:45] <crimsun> joseph: because linux-686-smp pulls in the appropriate l-r-m, too.
[03:46] <joseph> so why is linux-image-686-smp even provided as a package?
[03:46] <s_spiff>  any reccomendations for a bittorrent client?
[03:46] <crimsun> joseph: why shouldn't it be?
[03:46] <star07> hi, if the network got proxy
[03:46] <joseph> crimsun: should I remove linux-image-686-smp?
[03:46] <crimsun> joseph: case in point: some of us don't need l-r-m.
[03:46] <maze> Seveas, i keep getting this: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop. but i have kernel modules installed, would u kno whats wrong ? :o
[03:46] <star07> is it possible that i can use apt-get again?
[03:46] <Madpilot> s_spiff: the default gnome-bittorrent is OK
[03:46] <crimsun> joseph: it doesn't hurt to have it
[03:47] <Seveas> maze: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[03:47] <joseph> crimsun: wouldn't it be installing 2 kernels then?
[03:47] <crimsun> joseph: no, they're both metapackages.
[03:47] <s_spiff> hmm ok
[03:47] <joseph> crimsun; what is l-r-m
[03:47] <crimsun> joseph: linux-restricted-modules
[03:48] <alekandr> maze: ls /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386
[03:48] <maze> what about it alekandr , theres no build folder.
[03:48] <maze> but there is kernel, bunch of modules
[03:48] <alekandr> there is on mine
[03:49] <maze> volatile, initrd
[03:49] <joseph> crimsun: okay I removed linux-image-686-smp and just installed linux-686-smp
[03:49] <joseph> crimsu: that should work right?
[03:49] <MacSlow> Greetings everybody!
[03:50] <joseph> crimsun: oh wait, linux-686-smp depends upon linux-image-686-smp
[03:50] <u^A> hello i have a question which is not technically related, i have ordered some cd and waiting for the shipping,but i still did not received official confirmation
[03:50] <alekandr> maze: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6890
[03:50] <joseph> crimsun: so basically all I've accomplished is to install the l-r-m
[03:50] <MacSlow> How to enable a daily apt-get update under Ubuntu?
[03:50] <michuk> cron it
[03:51] <MacSlow> Is this already in place in a stock 5.10 install (and only needs to be switched on)?
[03:51] <mips> Hi anybody here familair with pptp ?
[03:51] <maze> alekandr, yeah i have everything minus build
[03:51] <MacSlow> michuk, sure thing... just wanted to ask for the proper apt-get command, I'm only familiar with yum and rpm
[03:52] <michuk> apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:52] <lowman62> sorry sophtpaw i was out for a smoke
[03:52] <sophtpaw> no worries
[03:52] <soundray> I'm looking for an HTML photo gallery generator. Synaptic throws up a few package names -- any experiences? Recommendations?
[03:52] <sophtpaw> just trying other stuff out
[03:52] <joseph> crimsun: what else do I have to do besides installing the nvidia-glx
[03:52] <sophtpaw> but it don't look do-able
[03:52] <Perversus> Buenas tardes a todos
[03:52] <Madpilot> MacSlow: your system should check for updates once a day or so, a red icon will appear in the notification area
[03:53] <Catch22> moment of thruth
[03:53] <Madpilot> soundray: gThumb has a decent basic gallery maker
[03:53] <michuk> MacSlow: or: apt-get -y dist-upgrade (this will assume yes to all questions)
[03:53] <lowman62> sophtpaw: I also have internet explorer installed with quicktime and windows media player...I dunno maybe that is why it works for me
[03:53] <Catch22> about to install ubuntu
[03:53] <alekandr> maze: apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386 linux-kernel-headers
[03:53] <et0> I keep getting "No Symbols found" when I try to run X after I installed Ubuntu. dpkg-reconfigure doesnt work. Any clues or hints?
[03:53] <sophtpaw> ic lowman62, is that with wine that you IE installed?
[03:54] <soundray> Madpilot, is it reasonably easy to customize the HTML templates?
[03:54] <joseph> Couldn't find package nvidia-glx-config
[03:54] <lowman62> sophtpaw: no I use crossover office pro
[03:54] <MacSlow> Madpilot, michuk: I'm currently helping a friend, a fresh win-lin convert, with her box-setup.
[03:54] <Madpilot> soundray: I don't know, actually, I've used it once just to test
[03:54] <maze> alekandr, was missing linux-headers, but already had kernel headers O_O
[03:54] <maze> alekandr,  thx for the help
[03:54] <alekandr> :] 
[03:54] <sophtpaw> lowman62: oh, i have IE installed with wine, which i hadn't thought of as i never use it. I'll check that out
[03:55] <soundray> Madpilot, thanks, I'll have a look.
[03:55] <lowman62> sophtpaw: try it and see
[03:55] <joseph> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia mentions to do this command " sudo apt-get install sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:55] <joseph> " but I get an error "Couldn't find package nvidia-glx-config"
[03:55] <lowman62> probably will crash in wine tho :P
[03:55] <meborc> ok, i need advice... i have no sound in my breezy box... i can get my music and everything working, but sounds in ubuntu are not working... i went system>preferences>sound, tried to change my VIA motherboard sound device to a SB live... but whenever i go back to that menu, the VIA is still selected... i guess there is something wrong... how can configure what card ubuntu uses?
[03:56] <MacSlow> Madpilot, michuk: Ah... she just told me that after the first reboot after the install she was asked if she wanted "automatic updates" she answerd that with "yes". So I guess she has that stuff in place now.
[03:56] <SeicherlBoB> anybody knows what to do with a screwed lcp-setting for pppd? can anybody help me?
[03:56] <CarinArr> is there a way to give local users priveleges that remote users don't have?
[03:56] <soundray> Is anyone here familiar with zoph or KimDaBa? I'm looking for a recommendation for web image gallery generators.
[03:56] <Catch22> shit.. doesnt recognise my WLAN card
[03:57] <CarinArr> i.e. say i want local users to be able to use shutdown and reboot but i dont want remote users to
[03:57] <blue-frog> CarinArr, are remote and local users the same?
[03:57] <CarinArr> yes
[03:58] <CarinArr> i only want those physically at the machine to be able to reboot it etc
[03:58] <jorgp> where do I define a default editor, when I visudo it uses nano I want to switch to vim
[03:58] <alekandr> maze: all working?
[03:58] <soundray> CarinArr, I think you'll have to write a wrapper for shutdown that checks the users remote/local status.
[03:58] <s_spiff> are there no  other otrrent clients? other the the bittorrent ?
[03:58] <sophtpaw> lowman62: can i install quicktime in I.E or would wine come into it??
[03:59] <jorgp> s_spiff: there are tons of clients
[03:59] <nalioth_zZz> jorgp: in your ~/.bashrc   export EDITOR=blah
[03:59] <s_spiff> like?
[03:59] <CarinArr> soundray, do you know where i can find any more information on it?
[03:59] <MacSlow> Madpilot, michuk: Would you recommend to enable those "universe"-repositories for apt-get for a "just user"-type of person?
[04:00] <soundray> CarinArr, how do you give remote access? ssh or XDMCP?
[04:00] <CarinArr> ssh
[04:00] <Madpilot> MacSlow: yes - there is all sorts of useful stuff in Universe/Multiverse
[04:00] <jorgp> s_spiff: ktorrent, ctorrent, azureus, qtorrent, rtorrent, etc..
[04:01] <s_spiff> ok... which ones good? every time i start bittorrent..it keeps asking me the metafile and crap..are there none like abc [ for windows ]  or the windows version bittorrent client?
[04:02] <Catch22> mayb utorrent, dont know whether theres a linux client
[04:02] <Catch22> im currently using that for winxp
[04:02] <s_spiff> ok..
[04:02] <joseph> why does this command fail? "sudo ./armyops250linux.run".  I get this error:  "sudo: ./armyops250linux.run: command not found
[04:02] <joseph> "
[04:02] <s_spiff>  thanks..will try some of these
[04:02] <s_spiff>  cya
[04:02] <trappist> joseph: sudo sh ./armyops250linux.run
[04:03] <trappist> joseph: also try: scp armyops250linux.run trappist@linuxkungfu.org (just kidding)
[04:03] <soundray> CarinArr, a simple solution might be to stick with the Ubuntu default. That way, local non-privileged users can still reboot by changing to a text console and hitting Ctrl-Alt-Del.
[04:03] <joseph> what is the time-out for sudo to remember my password so I don't have to re-enter it?
[04:04] <trappist> 15 minutes
[04:04] <Madpilot> joseph: I think it's 15min
[04:04] <soundray> CarinArr, you can change the Ctrl-Alt-Del behavior to shutdown by editing /etc/inittab
[04:04] <CarinArr> soundray, yeah.. i was just wondering how they do it in gnome/kde..
[04:04] <miro> proba
[04:04] <apokryphos> joseph: 15 mins
[04:05] <soundray> CarinArr, I don't know... If all else fails, you can always look at the source code.
[04:05] <CarinArr> heh
[04:05] <CarinArr> weeee
[04:05] <CarinArr> ;)
[04:05] <soundray> CarinArr, found something?
[04:05] <CarinArr> no, just happy at the prospect
[04:05] <CarinArr> heh
[04:05] <Laitte> good morning
[04:06] <SeicherlBoB> can anybody help me with my pppd? I need to fix some lcp-settings. i get pptp[29669] : anon log[decaps_gre:pptp_gre.c:395] : discarding duplicate or old packet 29317 (expecting 107009)
[04:06] <SeicherlBoB> all the time!
[04:06] <soundray> CarinArr, this isn't really my turf, but there are ways to check user status through commands like w and who
[04:07] <CarinArr> thanks soundray
[04:07] <CarinArr> little bit wiser now;)
[04:08] <soundray> CarinArr, also check out 'man 5 utmp'
[04:09] <CarinArr> thanks
[04:09] <fsd> Hi! I've changed my firts drive with grub and linux to other one. How to reinstall grub on it using linux installation cd?
[04:09] <lowman62> sophtpaw: did that work?
[04:09] <fsd> I have already linux on second one
[04:09] <soundray> fsd, do you have the live CD by any chance?
[04:10] <fsd> yes, default ubuntu
[04:10] <apokryphos> fsd: /msg ubotu grub
[04:10] <soundray> !grub
[04:10] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:10] <b1shop> damn.  realvnc enterprise viewer for linux tosses libc errors
[04:11] <edoardo> hi gals, hi dudes : )
[04:11] <edoardo> you guys, with gnome-volume-manager on, i still need to unmount say a usb connected ogg/mp3 player or can i simply unplug it, and it'll self-unmount?
[04:13] <soundray> edoardo, always better to unmount. You might have dirty buffers otherwise.
[04:13] <SeicherlBoB> is there nobody in here that knows about lcp for pppd???
[04:13] <edoardo> soundray, it's not for me. i unmount stuff. it's actually for my father's office. he's got a usb key and might forget to unmount. what would happen?
[04:13] <edoardo> soundray, and also, would it automatically unmount?
[04:14] <soundray> edoardo, if he's written to it, and the write hasn't completed, he might lose data.
[04:14] <edoardo> soundray, how would he know if the write has completed?
[04:15] <soundray> edoardo, best way is to unmount... The unmount only finishes after all writes are complete.
[04:15] <soundray> edoardo, i.e. buffers flushed.
[04:16] <edoardo> soundray, like say he copies a bunch of documents, and then the copy process is over. is it *actually* over or is it like floppies, where stuff gets loaded into the floppies the moment you unmount?
[04:16] <soundray> edoardo, you could reduce his risk by mounting removable devices with the sync option.
[04:16] <soundray> edoardo, it's similar to the floppy situation.
[04:16] <nutcase> Hi , im asking, is there anyway to know about ubuntu's processor management? Any documents at all?
[04:17] <edoardo> soundray, how do iset the sync option?
[04:17] <soundray> edoardo, dirty buffers are flushed when the system is idle, when you issue a 'sync' or 'unmount', or forced after a certain timeout.
[04:17] <soundray> edoardo, in /etc/fstab
[04:17] <edoardo> soundray, thought so but... i'm usin' gnome-volume-manager
[04:17] <edoardo> soundray, i think it avoids fstab
[04:17] <soundray> edoardo, give me two minutes...
[04:18] <edoardo> soundray, awright : )
[04:18] <tokyoahead> hi guys, I just installed the live CD on my laptop, and activated the WLan interface, but how can I actually connect now?
[04:19] <gnomefreak> tokyoahead, you didnt install the live-cd and if you have rebooted since you activated the wlan you need to re-activate it
[04:20] <tokyoahead> gnomefreak: actually I juist found out it works already... its just the newtork icon on the taskbar only shows the lo
[04:20] <klip> Hi there
[04:21] <Stork> hi, the X server (gdm) gives me this error: "Error: API mismatch: The NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but this X module is version 1.0.7667. Please be sure that your kernel module and all nvidia driver files have the same driver version"
[04:21] <klip> did you check the versions yourself?
[04:21] <tokyoahead> is there anything to be careful about when changing from gentoo to ubuntu? I have a parallel windows partition that I dont want to be touched either...
[04:22] <Stork> anyone?
[04:22] <klip> So: are the versions really different from each other @Stork?
[04:22] <enkrav> What's the easiest way (for moms) to prevent the annoying find process that slows down the system daily from being started?
[04:22] <Stork> klip, that's what it says, how do i check?
[04:22] <klip> oh, okay, give me a second, ok?
[04:22] <Stork> oh thanks
[04:23] <mjr> enkrav, sudo rm /etc/cron.daily/slocate
[04:23] <soundray> edoardo, there doesn't seem to be a gnome-volume-manager option for sync mounting.
[04:23] <klip> Stork: Use this command:
[04:23] <soundray> edoardo, probably best to educate your father...
[04:23] <klip> uname -a
[04:23] <Stork> ok
[04:23] <klip> in the shell and you will see which kernel version you have.
[04:24] <MacSlow> how is sshd enabled under Ubuntu?
[04:24] <Stork> klip, "Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Thu Dec 22 11:37: UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux"
[04:24] <soundray> MacSlow, by default if you install openssh-server
[04:24] <mjr> MacSlow, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[04:25] <Linfanguin> is there a website with screenshots and info on all the linux distros? i want to see what the diffrence in all of them
[04:25] <klip> Do you have the latest driver for nVidia?
[04:25] <cyberzack> i have a probleme with drapper
[04:25] <Madpilot> Linfanguin: try distrowatch, they've got some of that info
[04:25] <cyberzack> some one for help
[04:25] <dirkvdbroek> Hello, I am still having trouble getting dri to work any help in here?
[04:26] <soundray> Linfanguin, also, http://lwn.net/Distributions/
[04:26] <Stork> klip, using "apt-get install nvidia-glx" says i do
[04:26] <klip> okay.
[04:26] <Madpilot> http://distrowatch.com/
[04:26] <Linfanguin> thanks alot
[04:26] <grundo> hi all!
[04:26] <klip> so the x module is too old, as the version number says.
[04:27] <klip> I am a beginner myself and I don't really know how to update the x module.
[04:27] <grundo> i tryed to launch my America's army game after installing it but i get this error:
[04:27] <grundo> ./armyops-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:27] <cyberzack> the dist-upgrade is succesfu exept firefox but lot of packets are corrupted
[04:27] <klip> grundo: do you have the lib? check synaptics.
[04:27] <Stork> klip, i'd guess sudo apt-get install gdm ?
[04:27] <grundo> ok
[04:27] <grundo> what do i search for there?
[04:28] <grundo> what lib?
[04:28] <cyberzack> and i can't use eagle for using apt-get
[04:28] <cleo> grundo: libstdc++5
[04:28] <Stork> klip, nope, i have the latest version :|
[04:28] <grundo> ok
[04:28] <grundo> :-)
[04:28] <gnomefreak> cyberzack, what version of ubuntu
[04:28] <cyberzack> i had breezy and i dist-upgrade to drappr
[04:28] <klip> Well search for the libstdc++
[04:29] <dirkvdbroek> my X is giving me the following error: (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_EINVAL"
[04:29] <dirkvdbroek> I'm trying to get dri working with the fgl drivers
[04:29] <dirkvdbroek> I have reverted to using the synaptic tool to get them
[04:29] <dirkvdbroek> however, that did not solve any of my problems
[04:29] <joseph_> is it okay to have both libstdc++5 and libstdc++6 at the same time
[04:29] <gnomefreak> cyberzack, seeing as that dapper is not released not even in beta yet your gonna find alot of packages that dont work
[04:29] <dirkvdbroek> I'm really end of line - and I got this running on slackware in no time!
[04:30] <dirkvdbroek> what is wrong with my ubuntu?
[04:30] <Stork> hi, the X server (gdm) gives me this error: "Error: API mismatch: The NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but this X module is version 1.0.7667. Please be sure that your kernel module and all nvidia driver files have the same driver version"
[04:30] <cyberzack> yes i know that drapper is developpement but just for example X doesnt work
[04:30] <cyberzack> eagle usb also
[04:30] <cyberzack> im in trouble
[04:31] <cyberzack> and no way too got my breezy snif snif
[04:31] <dirkvdbroek> cyberzack, did you try switching to console?
[04:31] <gnomefreak> cyberzack, i would file a bug with bugzilla and wait or go back to breezy if you cant or if they cant help
[04:32] <cleo> dirkvdbroek: try Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no" in xorg.conf under Device section
[04:32] <klip> gtg now, do some homework.
[04:32] <klip> 4 pm in germany
[04:32] <klip> see you all.
[04:32] <Stork> hi, the X server (gdm) gives me this error: "Error: API mismatch: The NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but this X module is version 1.0.7667. Please be sure that your kernel module and all nvidia driver files have the same driver version"? if i remove and re-install gdm would that work? or maybe if i installed kde instead?
[04:32] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: How did you install the ATI drivers?
[04:32] <gnomefreak> bye klip
[04:32] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, I used synaptic the last time
[04:32] <cyberzack> how to go back to breezy without lost of data
[04:32] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: you must have changed the xorg.conf file, though
[04:33] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: how did you do that?
[04:33] <dirkvdbroek> I have assumed it has overwritten the previous drivers in /lib/modules
[04:33] <Stork> anyone?
[04:33] <dirkvdbroek> I modified by hand and using fglconfig
[04:33] <dirkvdbroek> I have found no way to properly edit my x config in the gui of ubuntu unfortunately
[04:33] <Stork> hi, the X server (gdm) gives me this error: "Error: API mismatch: The NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but this X module is version 1.0.7667. Please be sure that your kernel module and all nvidia driver files have the same driver version"? if i remove and re-install gdm would that work? or maybe if i installed kde instead?
[04:33] <ccooke> cyberzack: 1) If /home is a seperate partition, you're fine. 2) If not, back it up. 3) If you can't, split / into /home and / (but be aware that this *does* have some risk)
[04:34] <thegladiator> am I connected ?
[04:34] <thegladiator> test*
[04:34] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, yes
[04:34] <Madpilot> thegladiator: you seem to be
[04:34] <dirkvdbroek> thegladiator, please, you are connected stop spamming :)
[04:34] <Linfanguin> i have a question-with all this linux dsitros whats the diffrence? it seems like they all run on either kde or gnome? the only diffrence i see is the name-logo am i wrong?
[04:34] <thegladiator> yo yes
[04:34] <Madpilot> ... or we're all hallucinating... :P
[04:34] <ccooke> Stork: the error says there's a version mismatch. Either you have the wrong kernel or the wrong version of the xorg drivers
[04:34] <cyberzack> ok ok but no probleme with /home partition
[04:34] <thegladiator> he he thats a possibility
[04:35] <ccooke> Stork: is this the first time you've tried using the nvidia drivers?
[04:35] <gnomefreak> Linfanguin,  the packages are different from distro to distro
[04:35] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, do you agree not to use the internal agpgart? that's not reccomended by ati
[04:35] <cyberzack> i thought that is a possible way to recover , like apt-get recover loooooooool
[04:35] <cleo> dirkvdbroek: do it and it will work
[04:35] <Stork> ccooke, i've had them for a while, but i only just restarted ubuntu with them recently. i restarted gnome before though
[04:35] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: yes, quite. whatever is in your config, try reversing the line.
[04:36] <ccooke> Stork: have you upgraded your system recently?
[04:36] <dirkvdbroek> cleo, I can start xinit after killing off gdb, but gdb does not seem to load my new xorg.conf  - what config file is gdb looking at?
[04:36] <ccooke> Stork: updated, rather
[04:36] <dirkvdbroek> I'm currently starting X from a remote ssh session so I can observe without getting locked out.
[04:36] <Stork> ccooke, i have updated the kernel a few days ago using the "show-updates" thing
[04:37] <dirkvdbroek> (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found
[04:37] <dirkvdbroek> seems wrong too doens't it
[04:38] <ccooke> Stork: hmm. perhaps you didn't update the restricted modules patch
[04:38] <astronaut> hi
[04:38] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: that's fine.
[04:38] <Stork> ccooke, how can i do that?
[04:38] <ccooke> stork: ssh in, then try: sudo apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:39] <ccooke> Stork: sorry, sudo in front of both apt-get commands
[04:39] <Stork> ccooke, the onle ones it wants to update are "info" and "sudo" :(
[04:40] <dirkvdbroek> I get no improvement with either internal or external
[04:40] <ccooke> Stork: right, so everything seems fine there. what does 'dpkg -l linux-image*' do?
[04:40] <dirkvdbroek> buggy stuff!
[04:40] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: you probably have a broken configuration, that's all
[04:40] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, I KNOW I have a broken config
[04:41] <dirkvdbroek> hwo to fix it!
[04:41] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:41] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: select the *ati* driver - not fglrx
[04:41] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: make sure that works
[04:41] <Stork> ccooke, gives me a table with 5 entries
[04:41] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: once it does, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change:
[04:41] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: the 'ati' driver to 'fglrx'
[04:42] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: and into the Device section add : Option "VideoOverlay" "on"
[04:42] <Stork> ccooke, "un linux-image, un linux-imgage-2., ii linux-image-2." etc
[04:42] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: try that. if it doesn't work, add: Option          "UseInternalAGPGART"    "off"
[04:42] <dirkvdbroek> ok, in the x config, should glx be on and GL core?
[04:43] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: you want the *default* config.
[04:43] <sam_> Hello
[04:43] <dirkvdbroek> ok, so I'm pressing enter at the ok's nothing more :)(
[04:43] <sam_> I'm having a small problem, could anybody help me please?
[04:43] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: hell, if you can find the original config - dpkg usually backs it up - in /etc/X11/ ?
[04:43] <_jason> sam_, we can try if you ask a question
[04:44] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: the one dpkg generated when you first installed the system
[04:44] <Stork> ccooke, should i un-install the nvidia drivers?
[04:44] <ccooke> Stork: certainly for now.
[04:44] <ccooke> I'm not sure how you've got the mismatched version
[04:44] <ccooke> Stork: have you installed any drivers from a third party site?
[04:44] <jaek> anyone know if there are firefox 1.5 packages?
[04:45] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[04:45] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:45] <_jason> jaek, I don't believe there are any
[04:45] <Stork> ccooke, nope
[04:45] <ccooke> Stork: very odd.
[04:45] <jaek> debian unstable uses 1.5... is ubuntu behind debian?
[04:45] <Catch22> installing the packages takes forever
[04:45] <gnomefreak> ubuntu unstable uses 1.5
[04:46] <gnomefreak> mind you the term unstable means different than debian unstable tho :(
[04:46] <dirkvdbroek> it was called default.conf
[04:46] <jaek> so i cant set it to use the unstable package for ff1.5 only?
[04:46] <sam_> I installed Ubuntu yesterday, and I have had just one problem. I have an nVidia FX5200 Graphics card on my computer, but the highest resolution it will reach is 1024*768. I have used this card in windows at 1280*1024, no problems. It seems ubuntu wont let me even higher the resolution, the highest availiable is 1024*768, any ideas why?
[04:46] <dirkvdbroek> ok thateoneworked
[04:46] <gnomefreak> jaek, no
[04:47] <gnomefreak> jaek, the wiki is self explantory and isnt that hard to upgrade to 1.5
[04:47] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, my problems are not resulting from the fact I installed breezy before official release?
[04:47] <Stork> ccooke, still doesn't help. i did "sudp apt-get remove nvidia-glx"
[04:47] <jaek> sam_, install the restricted kernel modules
[04:47] <dirkvdbroek> I thought it's updated fully by now
[04:47] <drmr> where is kernel source in ubuntu?
[04:48] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: probably not. I did the same.
[04:48] <dirkvdbroek> linux-headers, in /usr/src
[04:48] <Stork> ccooke, any ideas?
[04:48] <jaek> gnomefreak, that method still seems messy in comparsison with a package
[04:48] <sam_> What are the Restricted kernel modules? I'm a bit of a newby, you see.
[04:48] <drmr> linux-headers is kernel source?
[04:48] <ccooke> Stork: you need to reconfigure X - 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[04:48] <dirkvdbroek> arg. I changed ati to fglrx, gives me exactely the same error!
[04:48] <gnomefreak> jaek, its really not bad but its up to you
[04:48] <dirkvdbroek> (EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP
[04:49] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: okay, a quick check: lsmod | grep agp
[04:49] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: anything there?
[04:50] <dirkvdbroek> intel_agp              23420  1
[04:50] <dirkvdbroek> agpgart                35436  2 fglrx,intel_agp
[04:50] <Stork> ccooke, ooh, it worked
[04:50] <dirkvdbroek> I don't want agpgart, but it gets loaded
[04:50] <dirkvdbroek> cannot unload it
[04:50] <dirkvdbroek> intel agp shouldn't be there either
[04:50] <sam_> Can somebody tell me what "the resticted kernel modules" are? And how do I run / install them?
[04:50] <dirkvdbroek> should be taken care of by the internal agpgart
[04:50] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: it's fine. That means you *must* turn off the internal AGP support in the ATI driver
[04:50] <steven__> hey how do i get my burner working?
[04:50] <mindlace> hello ... I am compiling openldap from scratch because it is effectively orphaned and the ubuntu/debian versions are *extremely slow* running under 2.6.+ kernels
[04:51] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, well, it's turned off afaik
[04:51] <Catch22> nice, screen is fucked up in gui mode
[04:51] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: you have: Option          "UseInternalAGPGART"    "off"
[04:51] <jbroome> that's a feature
[04:51] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, would you be so kind to post your xorg.conf  so I can compare?
[04:51] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: in your xorg.conf?
[04:51] <dirkvdbroek> yes
[04:52] <Stork> ccooke, now my game doesn't work
[04:52] <mindlace> so i'm wondering what addl level of work i should do -
[04:52] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: sure. Mine's a two monitor setup for my laptop (so it works fine without two)
[04:52] <Wesker> http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8250349906&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1
[04:52] <mindlace> try to make my own deb?
[04:52] <mindlace> try to talk to the maintainers?
[04:52] <dirkvdbroek> I'm on a pc here, but shouldnt differ
[04:52] <dirkvdbroek> is there a file dump on this channel somewhere?
[04:53] <MacSlow> Madpilot, michuk: ehm... how to enable sshd under Ubuntu 5.10?
[04:53] <mindlace> MacSlow: apt-get install ssh
[04:53] <mindlace> or
[04:53] <mindlace> sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start
[04:54] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, would you know how to conveniently dump a config file here?
[04:54] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6893
[04:54] <steven__> when running k3b to burn cds should i be a superuser or ?
[04:54] <robotsg> hey folks, settin up ndiswrap to bring up wlan0 on boot. I added ndiswrapper to /etc/modules and added iface wlan0 inet and 2 lines for essid/mode below in /etc/network/interfaces... anything else?
[04:55] <Madpilot> steven__: you shouldn't have to be
[04:55] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: try using that file as-is (the resolutions are likely wrong, but X should auto-detect and correct that for you)
[04:55] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: (if not... just change them)
[04:55] <mindlace> dirirkvdbrook: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting
[04:55] <steven__> Madpilot, ok ty
[04:56] <n00dle> Hi there. Was just wondering how i might find out if I have apache installed on my ubuntu box.
[04:56] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, I will know enough when I get the same error - that it's not in the xorg.conf files
[04:56] <dirkvdbroek> and that I should start 'cleaning up'
[04:56] <Madpilot> n00dle: it's not there by default, AFAIK...
[04:56] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: ah, wait - you'll need to change the PCI entries, I expect
[04:56] <gnomefreak> n00dle, locate apache
[04:56] <mindlace> n00dle: dpkg -l | grep apache
[04:56] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: you can get the correct ones from lspci
[04:56] <n00dle> maddler - Cool.
[04:56] <n00dle> but yeah, dpkg is what i was looking for.
[04:56] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, I know
[04:57] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: if there's only one entry there, use the same twice.
[04:57] <mindlace> I am also suddenly fond of "wajig", n00dle - it is kind of like a super-apt
[04:57] <steven__> if i may ask, what is openoffice? from what i can tell its a Microsoft Word for linux but what extensions are the files saved in, and can they be opened in microsoft word?
[04:57] <n00dle> hm wajig..
[04:57] <mindlace> sudo apt-get install wajig && wajig list-commands
[04:57] <n00dle> i sees.
[04:57] <n00dle> i'll grab that, thanks.
[04:58] <Madpilot> steven__: OpenOffice can read MS formats, MSOffice can't read OOo
[04:58] <steven__> Madpilot, aw :(
[04:58] <Madpilot> steven__: but OOo can save in MS formats if you need it to...
[04:58] <gnomefreak> Madpilot, and peopel wonder why OOo is better :)
[04:58] <steven__> Madpilot, just asking because i have alot of reports to do under MSOffice for a class im taking
[04:58] <Myrtti> "MS formats"
[04:58] <steven__> yes thats what i need
[04:58] <mindlace> It is very hard to maintain a php5 machine and use debian/ubuntu packages
[04:59] <n00dle> Errrr.
[04:59] <Ng> it's not that hard
[04:59] <steven__> and i would rather use something on linux than having to pirate a copy of MSOffice because i damn sure as hell am not going to go buy it
[04:59] <Catch22> well, it DOES recognize my wlan card _O_
[04:59] <Ng> there are php5 packages knocking about
[04:59] <Madpilot> steven__: OOo for Windows exists too
[04:59] <steven__> Madpilot, no windows. i want linux ;)
[04:59] <Ng> in fact php5 is in ubuntu
[05:00] <edoardo> soundray, dude, you still there?
[05:00] <steven__> Madpilot, but OOo can save in MSOffice types so i can open the files in MSOffice in school to print it?
[05:00] <n00dle> err.
[05:00] <edoardo> soundray, had to leave, prolly missed your answer : )
[05:00] <n00dle> why can't a su to root.
[05:00] <n00dle> i dont even remember setting a root password in installation.
[05:00] <Madpilot> n00dle: use sudo, not su
[05:00] <mindlace> I have no problem with the php5 packages, it's the dependencies of other php software like horde and whatnot that are obnoxious
[05:00] <jordo23> n00dle: sudo sh
[05:00] <n00dle> i did.. and it failed.
[05:00] <Madpilot> !tell n00dle about sudo
[05:00] <n00dle> package wajig has no installation candidate.
[05:00] <Madpilot> n00dle: use your own user pw
[05:01] <n00dle> sudo fails with it.
[05:01] <netstar> what font does the ubuntu logo use?
[05:01] <n00dle> for some other reason, probably unrelated.
[05:01] <_jason> n00dle, do sudo -s
[05:01] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, just as I was afraid of: I have more severe problems than these
[05:01] <dirkvdbroek> (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENODEV"
[05:01] <dirkvdbroek> (EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP
[05:01] <dirkvdbroek> again!
[05:01] <mindlace> dunno, might want to update, n00dle?
[05:01] <dirkvdbroek> this is with your config
[05:01] <mathew> netstar, they don't have a font.. it's a custom logo
[05:01] <kane__> hey everybody...
[05:02] <mathew> from the faq on the site
[05:02] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: ... heh. ls -l /dev/agpgart?
[05:02] <netstar> thanks matthew
[05:02] <mathew> sure
[05:02] <kane__> does anyone know how to use jackd ???
[05:02] <n00dle> okay, that works
[05:02] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: are you in the video group?
[05:02] <n00dle> but still
[05:02] <mathew> let me look for the link just to make sure I'm not lying to you by mistake
[05:02] <n00dle> i think wajig is broken.
[05:02] <mindlace> probably want to update your /etc/apt/sources.list to include universe n00dle
[05:02] <dirkvdbroek> crw-rw----  1 root video 10, 175 2006-01-10 16:05 /dev/agpgart
[05:02] <n00dle> hm, ok
[05:02] <dirkvdbroek> definately there
[05:02] <dirkvdbroek> root is
[05:02] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: (although that shouldn't matter)
[05:02] <dirkvdbroek> and my username too
[05:02] <Madpilot> netstar: there's a font called "Ubuntu Title" that you can get off the Ubuntu wiki
[05:02] <dirkvdbroek> I guess that's setup ok
[05:02] <mindlace> maybe also that other place (basically uncomment out the lines)
[05:02] <mindlace> then apt-get update
[05:02] <netstar> thank Madpilot
[05:03] <dirkvdbroek> arg. weird, stuff
[05:03] <_jason> ubotu, tell netstar about art
[05:03] <_jason> netstar, I think it is somewhere around there
[05:03] <Catch22> how can i change my network name in ubuntu ?
[05:03] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: right. try a reboot. The ATI cards can get a touch odd after you've tried strange things with them
[05:04] <soundray> Catch22, do you mean the domain name or the hostname?
[05:04] <n00dle> okay, i uncommented the lines in sources.list and am updating.
[05:04] <Catch22> host
[05:04] <Madpilot> netstar: Ubuntu Title is on this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing
[05:04] <n00dle> it's kinda strange.. making a connection to something takes absolutely ages.
[05:04] <soundray> Catch22, edit /etc/hostname
[05:04] <alekandr> Anyone know how to add something too run on boot?
[05:04] <n00dle> i'm getting full speed downloads, but even http get's take like 10 seconds.
[05:04] <thegladiator> !image
[05:04] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, thegladiator
[05:05] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, I'll try. however, according to a quick google, the error I'm getting is related to bad kernel agp drivers.
[05:05] <soundray> n00dle, sounds like your first DNS entry times out.
[05:05] <_jason> n00dle, disable ipv6
[05:05] <dirkvdbroek> I might try to reinstall breezy tonight - i never intended to spend much time on that system, just try out stuff and run mplayer
[05:05] <dirkvdbroek> getting quite sick of this ;)
[05:06] <mindlace> alekandr: add a script to /etc/rc.5.d
[05:06] <alekandr> thanks
[05:06] <gnomefreak> _jason, is there a dapper artwork?
[05:06] <mindlace> or, to be a little more "proper", add a script to /etc/init.d that accepts "start" "stop" "restart" as arguments and link it to /etc/rc.5.d
[05:06] <mathew> netstar .. I knew I had read it somewhere... find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for /proc: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver.  Automatically turning on find's -noleaf option.  Earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched.
[05:06] <mathew> shit.. sorry
[05:06] <_jason> gnomefreak, no idea
[05:07] <mathew> http://lists.ubuntulinux.org/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-May/036103.html
[05:07] <gnomefreak> ok ty just checking
[05:07] <Elsan_> How does OSS-ALSA emulation work? Can I hear multiple sounds including from an OSS app?
[05:07] <kane__> after I install any program it writes this:   E: lilypond-data: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1. What is it??? how can I get rid of it???
[05:07] <mindlace> Can anyone tell me what to do to get the stable current version of slapd (that actually works with a 2.6x kernel) into ubuntu?
[05:07] <mindlace> Like, what my next step should be?
[05:08] <Seveas> nvidia
[05:08] <Seveas> !nvidia
[05:08] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[05:08] <Seveas> !password
[05:08] <ubotu> Seveas: I haven't a clue
[05:08] <Seveas> !passwords
[05:08] <ubotu> Seveas: Are you on ritalin?
[05:08] <mindlace> I could try to make a replacement package for the current 2.2.23 that is in ubuntu
[05:08] <Seveas> !password is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StrongPasswords
[05:08] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[05:08] <Ng> mindlace: I'm just running the one that's in main and it seems fine
[05:08] <n00dle> Cool.
[05:08] <Ng> 2.2.26
[05:08] <Catch22> soundray how do i edit that file?
[05:08] <Seveas> !passwords is <reply> see password
[05:08] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[05:08] <n00dle> Wajig installed, and now i'm running install apache2
[05:08] <mindlace> Do you have multiple CPU's, Ng?
[05:08] <n00dle> seems to be going okay.
[05:08] <Ng> mindlace: nope
[05:08] <mindlace> cool!
[05:09] <soundray> Catch22, e.g. 'sudo gedit /etc/hostname'
[05:09] <aeg> is there a vpn package installed on 5.10 ?
[05:10] <tokyoahead> what is the standard root password for new ubuntu installs??
[05:10] <n00dle> its locked.
[05:10] <mindlace> Ng: it's a concurrency problem with multiple accesses & multiple processes involving slapd and sched_yield()
[05:10] <ccooke> tokyoahead: there isn't one.
[05:10] <ccooke> !root
[05:10] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:10] <mindlace> Ng: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0508.2/0511.html
[05:10] <Madpilot> tokyoahead: use sudo & your user pw instead
[05:10] <mindlace> Anyway, on my dual athlon it takes many, many seconds to respond to queries if >1 user is bound
[05:10] <gnomefreak> apg looks cool :)
[05:11] <Catch22> where do i set the resolution for the login screen ?
[05:11] <Storkme> hi, i am having trouble playing quake4 on ubuntu. it keeps telling me it "Couldn't find matching GLX visual". I have the latest nvidia drivers installed, i don't know what the problem is
[05:11] <lowman62> hey gnomefreak wassup?
[05:11] <gnomefreak> Catch22, i dont think you can atleast the only way i found was to set a different log-in screen
[05:11] <gnomefreak> gm lowman62
[05:11] <aeg> pls advice a address for my sources.list !
[05:12] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[05:12] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:12] <Madpilot> !tell aeg about sources
[05:12] <lowman62> gnomefreak: gm :)
[05:12] <j2daosh> ok... just noticed something that might explain why my comp just up and restarts on its own on me... i have the i686 kernel... next to the distro info it says testing/unstable.... why is that?
[05:12] <aeg> thx
[05:13] <gnomefreak> j2daosh, what version ar eyou running?
[05:13] <Storkme> hi, i am having trouble playing quake4 on ubuntu. it keeps telling me it "Couldn't find matching GLX visual". I have the latest nvidia drivers installed, i don't know what the problem is. How can i tell what my graphics card drivers are? i did "apt-get install nvidia-glx" and it worked fine, but i still can't get them to work
[05:13] <j2daosh> and what sys log do i need to turn on to find out what is going on when it just decides to restart
[05:13] <j2daosh> 2.6.12-10-386
[05:13] <gnomefreak> j2daosh, any dapper or etch repos enabled?
[05:13] <CarinArr> storkme, do you have the latest drivers or the latest ones available through synaptic?
[05:14] <j2daosh> lol any wha?
[05:14] <Catch22> is there some tools which allows me to view and connect available networks?
[05:14] <Storkme> yeh, i just said
[05:14] <CarinArr> heh you can't answer yes to an or question
[05:14] <j2daosh> i dont know about dapper but i got the multiverse and universe repos
[05:14] <Storkme> oh sorry i misread
[05:14] <Storkme> CarinArr, from synaptic
[05:14] <gnomefreak> j2daosh, than im not sure :(
[05:15] <j2daosh> dapper comes out in april eh?
[05:15] <thegladiator> netstar, are you there ?
[05:15] <gnomefreak> 20th
[05:15] <netstar> yeah
[05:15] <gnomefreak> give or take
[05:15] <CarinArr> there are actually ones that are much more recent, you might want to try those.. but you'd have to get them from nvidia
[05:15] <j2daosh> is that when its stable for final release or will it still be in beta phase?
[05:15] <thegladiator> here is the photo I took with my digital cam , for my memtest86+ ------------- > http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc002956kh.jp
[05:15] <soundray> Storkme, have you changed /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[05:15] <thegladiator> can someone tell me if the memory is really damaged ?
[05:15] <Storkme> soundray, what do i change it to?
[05:16] <thegladiator> a full block of 256 looks destroyed
[05:16] <cellulenoire> plz i need help
[05:16] <soundray> Storkme, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:16] <thegladiator> http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc002956kh.jpg
[05:16] <soundray> Storkme, select nvidia instead of nv for the drivers.
[05:16] <CarinArr> you can just run glxconfig...
[05:16] <Storkme> ok
[05:16] <thegladiator> typo before ... the real thing is ^
[05:17] <soundray> Storkme, ubotu also has some info...
[05:17] <CarinArr> might be easier:)
[05:17] <soundray> ubotu, tell Storkme about nvidia
[05:17] <tokyoahead> how do I get aditional software like thunderbird? is ther something like yum or emerge in ubuntu?
[05:17] <thegladiator> is my memory damaged netstar ?
[05:17] <yggdrasil_> tokyoahead sudo synaptic
[05:17] <yggdrasil_> or sudo apt-get
[05:17] <yggdrasil_> is the cmd line version
[05:18] <Catch22> is there some tools which allows me to view and connect available networks?
[05:18] <thegladiator> can someone see this memtest86+ result and tell me  if it is damaged ?
[05:18] <netstar> yes thegladiator
[05:18] <wogi> Good morning, ubuntuians!
[05:18] <thegladiator> I can ask for a replacement correct ? its a case of damaged mem right ?
[05:18] <Storkme> soundray, do i need to restart the xserver now?
[05:18] <lowman62> wogi: gm :)
[05:19] <Madpilot> thegladiator: it's new memory?
[05:19] <thegladiator> yeah less than a year
[05:19] <thegladiator> i bought it in FEB 2005
[05:19] <thegladiator> and this is how it fares
[05:19] <MacSlow> Madpilot: after apt-get install ssh openssh-server /etc/init.d/sshd is still not found
[05:19] <thegladiator> its almost completely damaged
[05:19] <MacSlow> Madpilot, is there another package still needed?
[05:19] <soundray> Storkme, yes. Best to also run 'sudo depmod -a' and reboot if you haven't done so since the nvidia package install.
[05:19] <thegladiator> could this be caused due to dust or something ?
[05:20] <thegladiator> Madpilot, that cud be caused due to dust
[05:20] <thegladiator> ?
[05:20] <soundray> thegladiator, very unlikely. I think your memory is properly fouled up.
[05:20] <thegladiator> ah
[05:21] <Stork> soundray, after doing that, the xserver gives me this error: "Error: API mismatch: The NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but this X module is version 1.0.7667. Please be sure that your kernel module and all nvidia driver files have the same driver version"
[05:21] <thegladiator> so i am gonna ask for replacement
[05:21] <Madpilot> !tell MacSlow about ssh
[05:21] <n00dle> hm, how do i restart apache?
[05:21] <Madpilot> MacSlow: I've only set SSH up once, have a look at that wiki page for more
[05:21] <edoardo> soundray, awright, i'm here : )
[05:21] <MacSlow> Madpilot, cool thanks for the pointer!
[05:21] <edoardo> soundray, also, can i have a tip about rsync?
[05:22] <thegladiator> i have been having many inconsistencies with Win XP and ubuntu . thank god ubuntu has a memtest enabled , othersie I would have never found out this problem
[05:22] <soundray> Stork, okay, this is probably fixed by 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)' and rebooting.
[05:22] <Madpilot> !tell n00dle about apache
[05:22] <soundray> Storkme, okay, this is probably fixed by 'sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)' and rebooting.
[05:22] <thegladiator> memtest86+ is a must feature for every desk/laptop
[05:22] <soundray> Sorry Stork, if you're listening.
[05:22] <Madpilot> n00dle: that link has start/stop/restart comands for Apache
[05:22] <soundray> edoardo, I'll to help if I can.
[05:22] <soundray> *try to
[05:23] <meepy> !tell meepy about ssh
[05:23] <Stork> soundray, i'm already on the latest version, it says
[05:23] <soundray> Stork, have you rebooted after installing linux-restri...
[05:23] <tokyoahead> what package type do usually need for ubuntu when downloading software? redhat? debian?
[05:23] <soundray> ?
[05:24] <Stork> soundray, yeh
[05:24] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, ok, thanks for you help, off to do other things!
[05:24] <Stork> soundray, i just did
[05:24] <lowman62> n00dle: I believe it is /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[05:24] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: no problem. Good luck.
[05:24] <Catch22> is there some tools which allows me to view and connect available networks?
[05:24] <edoardo> soundray, like if i do rsync -az /media/IAUDIO/VOICE . and in '.' there's a directory called VOICE, will it overwrite the files with new ones if they have the same name, or if some files are identical will it notice that and not update'em? it's an efficiency question really : )
[05:24] <soundray> Stork, did you do the depmod thing?
[05:25] <John138671> ho
[05:25] <lowman62> be back after lunch..laterz
[05:25] <tokyoahead> is there a rpm packaga of thunderbird I can download on ubuntu? there is nothing on syanptic and apt-get
[05:26] <soundray> edoardo, rsync overwrites target files with same-name source files, unless they are identical already. That's its big advantage over cp.
[05:27] <kane__> How do I run JACK server???
[05:27] <edoardo> soundray, that's what i wanted to know : )
[05:27] <edoardo> soundray, thankyou dude! : )
[05:27] <soundray> edoardo, note the --dry-run and --backup options for when you're playing with rsync.
[05:27] <edoardo> soundray, uh, and about the sync option with gnome-volume-manager?
[05:28] <computerdude> What does checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:28] <computerdude>  mean? I'm trying to get eggdrop working.
[05:28] <Stork> soundray, no i didn't, i'll try that now
[05:28] <wb> tokyoahead: sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird
[05:28] <soundray> edoardo, you must have not been listening... I couldn't find any way to mount -o sync with gnome-volume-manager.
[05:28] <Madpilot> computerdude: have you installed build-essential?
[05:29] <edoardo> soundray, yeah, was away for a while : ) too bad you couldn't find any : )
[05:29] <computerdude> Problay not, Do i need build-essential?
[05:29] <soundray> edoardo, you will need to educate your dad about not removing USB sticks too early...
[05:29] <computerdude> I'm installing it now. I'll see what it does.
[05:29] <Madpilot> computerdude: it's got the compilers & stuff
[05:29] <computerdude> Ok
[05:29] <edoardo> soundray, well... how early? does it change every time?
[05:29] <tokyoahead> wb I just found that out but I get some error saying its not avail. but is referred to by another package... what does that mean?
[05:29] <jordo23> Anyone here from Canada?  I have a question about canadian ISP's.
[05:29] <thegladiator> c compiler problems are caused mainly due to lack of essentials
[05:29] <Sanne> kane__: hold on
[05:30] <soundray> edoardo, the safe answer is: Remove after unmounting, not before.
[05:30] <kane__> Sanne, OK
[05:30] <edoardo> soundray, awright, i'll just tell him then : )
[05:30] <edoardo> soundray, thankyou dude! : )
[05:30] <Madpilot> jordo23: .ca here - what's up?
[05:30] <soundray> edoardo, unmounting is easy enough.
[05:30] <soundray> edoardo, welcome.
[05:30] <simon_> ive just installed ubuntu.
[05:30] <simon_> looks very nice. goodjob
[05:30] <computerdude> Thanks, it's compiling now.
[05:31] <jordo23> MadPilot: I am a network admin and we have a company in canada, do you know who are the major players there as far as T1 service?
[05:31] <wb> tokyoahead, i am not sure, it should be available, cause it is in a ubuntu support repository
[05:31] <Stork> soundray, same problem
[05:31] <Elsan_> How does OSS-ALSA emulation work? Can I hear multiple sounds including from an OSS app?
[05:31] <Madpilot> jordo23: no idea, actually...
[05:31] <tokyoahead> wb is there a way to search at-get?
[05:32] <alekandr> Anyone know how to change the server signature on apache?
[05:32] <Elsan_> jordo23: The one I know of is Sympatico in Quebec, I don't know if Videotron offers T1
[05:32] <Madpilot> tokyoahead: use Synaptic, it's got search
[05:32] <Stork> soundray, "Error: API mismatch: The NVIDIA kernel module is version 1.0.7174, but this X module is version 1.0.7667. Please be sure that your kernel module and all nvidia driver files have the same driver version"
[05:32] <soundray> Stork, you seem to have found a bug, then.
[05:32] <Sanne> kane__: just to clarify: you mean the low latency audio server?
[05:32] <wb> tokyoahaed, try synaptic
[05:32] <kane__> Sanne, yes.
[05:32] <tokyoahead> wb I ried out but its greyed out
[05:32] <Sanne> kane__: I'm finding a forum post for you, sec
[05:32] <tokyoahead> thunderbid that is
[05:32] <Stork> soundray, congrats for me
[05:33] <soundray> Stork, I have a laptop with nvidia stuff here, I'll boot it and try the update on it if you're patient.
[05:33] <Stork> ok thanks
[05:33] <jordo23> Thanks guys
[05:33] <Stork> i'm getting annoyed with ubuntu now, it's soo difficult to game
[05:33] <wb> tokyoahead, sry I don't know why it is greyed out.
[05:33] <tokyoahead> ok
[05:33] <soundray> Stork, no reason to get annoyed with Ubuntu.
[05:34] <Stork> well i'm considering going back to windows
[05:34] <soundray> Stork, your ire should go to NVidia. Things would be so much easier if they opened their hw specs.
[05:34] <Stork> all i really want to do is game, and it takes hours to set up quake4
[05:34] <ejofee_> in kde / kcontrol / appearance and themes / [desktop's]  background: when i press the "get new wallpapers" [from the internet] , a window *immediately* pops up on which is written "empty page" (so it won't download any wallpaper). can anybody please help me?
[05:35] <Sanne> kane__: setup instructions: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=562993#post562993
[05:35] <Sanne> kane__: background: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=552543#post552543
[05:35] <soundray> Stork, what made you go to Ubuntu in the first place?
[05:36] <Sanne> kane__: that's it :)
[05:36] <kane__> Sanne, thanx a lot...
[05:36] <Sanne> kane__: you're welcome
[05:36] <soundray> Stork, btw, did you run apt-get update before you installed the glx and restricted stuff?
[05:36] <Stork> soundray, because i'm too poor for windows
[05:37] <CarinArr> stork, it might very well be you need newer drivers.. but linux still involves a certain amount of work when things go wrong.. it isn't windows.
[05:37] <Manifold> Hey
[05:37] <grundo> im on linux side!
[05:37] <soundray> Stork, I can sympathize with that :)
[05:37] <Stork> it's curious, it worked a while ago
[05:37] <Manifold> I'm using Sylpheed 2.1.1, how do I view my inbox on a POP3 server without downloading from it?
[05:37] <Stork> then i reboot and it stops working
[05:37] <CarinArr> Stork, hmm.. have you updated the linux kernel?
[05:38] <Stork> yes
[05:38] <Stork> can i get the old kernel back?
[05:38] <soundray> CarinArr, at least it's possible to do the work. In Windows, when you're stuck, you're stuck (often enough).
[05:38] <Sanne> kane__: if you don't care for realtime audio, you can start jack comfortably with the qjackctl gui, though, and won't need rtlimits.
[05:38] <soundray> Stork, what's your uname -r output?
[05:39] <Locke> what is a good program for writing floppy images?
[05:39] <Stork> 2.6.12-10-386
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  'dd'    is normally used for that
[05:39] <computerdude> What all do i install to have TCL running right?
[05:39] <kane__> Sanne, OK I'll try that and see...
[05:39] <Sanne> kane__: good luck
[05:39] <Locke> Dr_Willis: and that is?
[05:39] <Stork> soundray, 2.6.12-10-386
[05:39] <soundray> Stork, do you use synaptic for package management?
[05:39] <Stork> nope
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  thats the name of the command  ' dd '
[05:39] <Stork> well i did
[05:40] <CarinArr> stork, if you upgraded from 2.6.12-9 to 2.6.12-10 you will probably have the earlier kernel as an option in grub
[05:40] <Stork> soundray, i did when i had xserver working
[05:40] <Locke> Dr_Willis: i tried it and nothing happened
[05:40] <CarinArr> when you boot
[05:40] <Stork> CarinArr, originally i had the one that came on the 5.10 install disk
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  dd if=floppy.image of=/dev/fd0 or similer. Its used all the time to make and write images like that
[05:40] <CarinArr> Stork, try rebooting, and seeing what options you have in grub
[05:40] <Stork> hmm ok
[05:41] <CarinArr> the top one would be the most recent one, try going down one version number from that if you can
[05:42] <Locke> Dr_Willis: anything else to use?
[05:42] <CarinArr> i'm using the latest kernel, but it doesn't work with the nvidia drivers in synaptic, i had to get the ones from nvidia
[05:42] <chris_> hi all, new to ubuntu and linux, but its very rewarding if you make the effort.
[05:42] <soundray> Stork, good hint from CarinArr. You may have to hit Esc during boot to see the grub menu.
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  never really needed anything else :P
[05:42] <Stork> soundray, CarinArr, VICTORY! the old kernel works fine
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  could use cat, or cp also i guess
[05:42] <Locke> Dr_Willis: then your gonna have to help me a little :-\
[05:43] <Stork> soundray, CarinArr, so i guess the new kernel just doesn't have a supporting nvidia driver yet?
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  'dd' is a simple 'data dump' type tool. it just takes data from one source and copies it to another.  whats the exact issue you are having.
[05:43] <soundray> Stork, you can probably just uninstall the newer one then, and grub will boot into the working one by default.
[05:43] <soundray> Stork, yes, it looks like it.
[05:43] <CarinArr> Stork, i dunno.. it might be we're just unlucky and it works to others.. i got it working with the new nvidia drivers, but it's more faffing about than using the ones in synaptic
[05:44] <Locke> Dr_Willis: i'm trying to make a floppy disk with Smartboot on it
[05:44] <CarinArr> but i have to use software that needs drivers that are newer than the synaptic ones, so i don't have much choice;)
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  not siure what you mean by 'make'  and not sure what 'smartboot' is.   you mean  you are just tryring to get some floppy.image you downloaded to a real floppy disk?
[05:45] <Stork> my game still doesn't work lol
[05:45] <monyetz> make
[05:45] <CarinArr> stork, did the game use to work?
[05:45] <Locke> Dr_Willis: in a nutshell, yes
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  that takes us back to the orginal dd command line i gave.
[05:45] <Stork> CarinArr, yeah
[05:46] <CarinArr> stork, weird.. same error as before?
[05:46] <Locke> Dr_Willis: well i played with it a little and now my floppy drive SOUNDS like it's working... but it has been sounding like that for a little while now
[05:46] <Stork> CarinArr, nope, a wierd new one
[05:46] <CarinArr> what's it say now?
[05:46] <Stork> one sec
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  not much i can help ya with till it either gets done - or spits out an error. :P it can take some time..
[05:47] <Locke> Dr_Willis: well, it says done, so lets try this thing out
[05:47] <soundray> Stork, do you get sensible output from glxinfo? You could put it up on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for us to see. Your weird error, too.
[05:47] <Storkme> ok
[05:48] <Guardian> how to have suspend to disk working on my laptop ? do i need to recompile the kernel ?
[05:48] <Locke> Dr_Willis: sweet, it worked (btw, smartboot is a disk that is used to boot Ubuntu from older computers that don't support booting from a CD Drive, it just boots from the floppy and tells the PC to go to the CD drive instead)
[05:48] <Locke> Dr_Willis: thanks
[05:49] <Storkme> soundray, CarinArr, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6895
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  :P i imatgine theres a smarttool wiki page then that detailed exactly what i told  ya :P
[05:49] <soundray> Guardian, no. Just look at the laptop-mode-tools package.
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  heh - i have exactly 1 pc now that has a floppy disk.. out of like 5
[05:49] <Storkme> soundray, and i can't use glxinfo - it says "Segmentation fault"
[05:49] <Guardian> soundray: thx
[05:49] <alekandr> Why are the forums not working :|
[05:50] <Locke> Dr_Willis: yeah, well i'm going to college and paying rent, so computers are hard to come by for me
[05:50] <soundray> Storkme, uh oh.
[05:50] <Storkme> uh oh?
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  Linux helps ya save $$ :p
[05:50] <tokyoahead> what is the std. boot manager of ubuntu?
[05:51] <alekandr> gnome TokenBad
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> Forums seem to be down.
[05:51] <alekandr> gnome tokyoahead
[05:51] <alekandr> thats what i just said Dr_Willis
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> I think he may mean GRUB. :P
[05:51] <soundray> Storkme, that won't be easy to track down and/or fix. Could even be a hardware fault.
[05:51] <alekandr> not gnome
[05:51] <alekandr> GRUB
[05:51] <alekandr> man :/
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:51] <Storkme> soundray, oh good
[05:51] <alekandr> oh man
[05:51] <tokyoahead> alekandr thanks :-)
[05:51] <alekandr> lost it there
[05:51] <soundray> Storkme, at least you're taking it in good spirit.
[05:51] <CarinArr> storkme, i reckon there are two things you can try.. you can try uninstalling the newer kernel, and then reinstalling the nvidia driver
[05:52] <tokyoahead> How do I set up grub? I cannot find a conf ind /etc
[05:52] <Storkme> how do i uninstall the newer kernel?
[05:52] <computerdude> Where can I get TCL for eggdrop?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> tokyoahead,  because its in /boot/grub :P
[05:52] <tokyoahead> hehe thanks :-)
[05:52] <nate2006> hi everyone
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> tokyoahead,  it may be worth wile  to read a few grub tutorials :)
[05:52] <CarinArr> Storkme, second thing you can try to do is remove everything to do with nvidia, including the linux-restricted-modules. go back to the newer kernel, and install the drivers you get from nvidia directly..
[05:53] <nate2006> I'm new to this linux based OS
[05:53] <soundray> Storkme, 'sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.6.12-10-386' I think...
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> tokyoahead,  heh heh. lilo config is normally in /etc/lilo.conf
[05:53] <zAo^> forum down?
[05:53] <Ng> computerdude: tcl8.4 is in main, so sudo apt-get install tcl8.4
[05:53] <Locke> Dr_Willis: Linux helps you save $$ and sanity
[05:53] <soundray> nate2006, welcome to Ubuntu then.
[05:53] <nate2006> is there a chat or some info that would be good for a newbie
[05:53] <computerdude> Thanks Ng
[05:53] <nate2006> ty
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> Locke,  yep. and it ups your Leet-Level!
[05:54] <computerdude> Ng: Do I need to restart?
[05:54] <Madpilot> nate2006: right here, or ubuntuforums.org
[05:54] <Ng> computerdude: no :)
[05:54] <nate2006> cool
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> nate2006,  also #linux, and #linuxhelp
[05:54] <Locke> Dr_Willis: wow... lol
[05:54] <e_machinist> I had to move my linux box into my bedroom... cause there is a leak in the roof above my desk... yikes.
[05:54] <computerdude> Hmm, well it's already installed on, but I still can compile eggdrop. It says   Tcl cannot be found on this system.
[05:54] <nate2006> I just found out today that I can get source code and alter it to anything I want
[05:55] <narles> anyone know how to fix this problem when i open up a . jar file...? /usr/share/themes/ish-Smooth/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:103: Engine "smooth" is unsupported, ignoring
[05:55] <nate2006> that sound cool
[05:55] <tokyoahead> is there a gnome application to setup grub ? (what is default etc)
[05:55] <soundray> nate2006, it is. Even if you never actually do it, the benefits of free source availability are massive.
[05:56] <Stork> CarinArr, soundray: you guys are my gods
[05:56] <e_machinist> tokyoahead: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=grub&titlesearch=Titles
[05:56] <student> During the "Copy remaining packages to hard disk" stage, I receive an error:  "archive-copier: error: `cp -a "/cdrom/pool/main/x/xscreensaver/xscreensaver-data_4.21-4ubuntu17_i386.deb" "/target/var/cache/archive-copier/desktop/xscreensaver-data_4.21-4ubuntu17_i386.deb"` failed with code 1".
[05:56] <student> Does anyone know what this is?
[05:56] <soundray> Stork, careful!
[05:56] <Stork> CarinArr, soundray: it works fine. Beers & curry on me!
[05:57] <CarinArr> Stork, cool, glad that my hours of trying to bloody figure out why the damn things don't work could be of help
[05:57] <soundray> Stork, you might get struck by lightning from another god.
[05:57] <CarinArr> heh
[05:57] <Stork> meh, oh well
[05:57] <n00dle> Hm.
[05:58] <soundray> Stork, so you're quaking now?
[05:58] <n00dle> Okay, so apache is running and i've set a directory with Options Indexes
[05:58] <Stork> indeed
[05:58] <n00dle> i can see the html files inside the folder showing up fine on the webserver
[05:58] <Stork> my pc is "leet"
[05:58] <Stork> for gaming
[05:58] <n00dle> but i get 'permission denied' trying to access any file.
[05:58] <Stork> except the cpu :\
[05:58] <soundray> Stork, well done. Good work, CarinArr!
[05:58] <student> I think ubuntu is not created enough space in the tmpfs during installation.  How can I increase it?
[05:59] <CarinArr> lol soundray i'm still astonished i wasn't the one going "HELP ME" for once
[05:59] <noone> ojla
[05:59] <Stork> heh
[05:59] <noone> ej a je gdo gor
[05:59] <noone> prvic uporablam to rec
[06:00] <narles> anyone know how to fix this problem when i open up a . jar file...? /usr/share/themes/ish-Smooth/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:103: Engine "smooth" is unsupported, ignoring
[06:00] <netstar> narles, yes
[06:00] <student> what is an LVM volume and do I need it?
[06:00] <netstar> Install the gtk engine smooth
[06:00] <netstar> art.gnome.org under engines
[06:00] <narles> netstar, thanks, i'll chec it out
[06:01] <netstar> let's see your screenshot man
[06:01] <soundray> student, LVM = logical volume management.
[06:01] <student> soundray: how do I know if I should select this option during installation?
[06:01] <soundray> student, if you're unsure, don't do it.
[06:01] <Stork> this game is AWESOME on high graphics :)
[06:01] <netstar> which game?
[06:02] <BxL> where is the official ubuntu starter guide?
[06:02] <narles> netstar, is this what i need.. http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk_engines/673
[06:02] <soundray> student, the default works well enough, and if one day you find that you need LVM, e.g. for accessing multiple hd's as one large pseudo-partition, you can still read up on it and add it on.
[06:02] <student> okay.  well during installation, during "copying remaining packages to hard disk" I apparently have run out of room on the tmpfs.
[06:02] <netstar> narles yes
[06:02] <netstar> narles, wait
[06:02] <netstar> apt-get install gtk2-engines-smooth
[06:03] <student> soundray:  it requires 400MB, but I see my tmpfs does not have that much available.  Is there a way to increase the size of the tmpfs during installation?  Or is there a way to workaround this issue?  Thanks.
[06:03] <narles> netstar, aight thanks
[06:03] <soundray> student, not sure - haven't heard of such a problem before.
[06:03] <soundray> student, how much RAM do you have?
[06:04] <BxL> where is the official ubuntu starter guide?
[06:04] <student> you are aware of the "copying remaining files to hard disk" portion of the ubuntu install?
[06:04] <Stork> quake4
[06:04] <soundray> student, yes.
[06:04] <Guardian> i'm trying to install java. the wiki says "install the java-package package with Synaptic, Miscellaneous - Text Based (multiverse) > java-package"  but i don't have multiverse, what should i do?
[06:04] <netstar> Stork,  on linux?
[06:04] <narles> netstar, it says gtk2-engines-smooth is up to date.. but i still get that error when i open up a jar file
[06:04] <student> soundray: well, it requires 400MB, but I do a df command and see that I have only 70MB allocated on tmpfs.
[06:04] <kitty_> Can Somebody help
[06:04] <student> soundray:  memtotal = 192016 kB
[06:05] <netstar> narles not sure then sorry
[06:05] <_jason> kitty_, we can try if you aska  quesiton
[06:05] <Stork> netstar, yeah, it's supported
[06:05] <narles> netstar, ok thanks
[06:05] <netstar> Stork, what spec do you have to be able to play it so nicely?
[06:05] <soundray> student, I don't think this is a tmpfs issue.
[06:05] <kitty_> I need to get MP3s Running on my UBUNTU but i just cant seem to get it workin. ive done everything im supposd to but it just wont work...
[06:05] <psusi> what the hell needs 400 MB in /tmp?
[06:06] <Stork> i've got an amd x2 4200+, 1gig 400mhz ram, and a nvidia 6600GT with 256mb
[06:06] <_jason> ubotu, tell kitty_ about mp3
[06:06] <student> soundray:  well where else would the installation copy the packages to?
[06:06] <narles> anyone know how to fix this problem when i open up a . jar file...? /usr/share/themes/ish-Smooth/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:103: Engine "smooth" is unsupported, ignoring
[06:06] <soundray> student, to your root partition.
[06:06] <netstar> That's my ideal machine
[06:06] <tokyoahead> guys I want to install skype. They list a .deb-package for ubuntu. I downloaded and its associated with archive manager which does not open it (Arhcive type not supported) so how can I sintall it?
[06:06] <_jason> kitty_, elaborate on "done everything im supposed to"
[06:06] <netstar> I'm stuck with a VERY dodgy laptop and an imac
[06:06] <student> soundray: during installation the root partition has not been created as far as I can tell
[06:07] <Stork> hehehe
[06:07] <netstar> back tommorow, night all
[06:07] <psusi> student: the installation creates it obviously, or you wouldn't have a place to install to now would you?
[06:07] <_xet> Why isnt there any direcotry named /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/
[06:07] <_xet> ?
[06:07] <soundray> student, it must have, it wouldn't be copying packages otherwise. Sorry student, have to go. I'll check if you're still around in half an hour.
[06:08] <student> soundray: psusi:  During the "Copy remaining packages to hard disk" stage, I receive an error:  "archive-copier: error: `cp -a "/cdrom/pool/main/x/xscreensaver/xscreensaver-data_4.21-4ubuntu17_i386.deb" "/target/var/cache/archive-copier/desktop/xscreensaver-data_4.21-4ubuntu17_i386.deb"` failed with code 1".
[06:08] <tokyoahead> how do I install a .deb-package in ubuntu?
[06:08] <_xet> dpkg -i
[06:08] <tokyoahead> or do I need a rpm?
[06:08] <psusi> student: how large did you have the setup program make your root partition?
[06:09] <student> psusi:  I chose the default, so I assume the maximum space
[06:09] <psusi> student: what does df show?
[06:09] <student>  During the "Copy remaining packages to hard disk" stage, I receive an error:  "archive-copier: error: `cp -a "/cdrom/pool/main/x/xscreensaver/xscreensaver-data_4.21-4ubuntu17_i386.deb" "/target/var/cache/archive-copier/desktop/xscreensaver-data_4.21-4ubuntu17_i386.deb"` failed with code 1".
[06:09] <student> oops sorry
[06:09] <student> /dev/hda1             12808136   1773288  10384220
[06:09] <student> it's a 12GB hard drive
[06:09] <student> should be plenty of space
[06:09] <tokyoahead> thanks _x
[06:10] <psusi> student: what are the last two columns on that line?  you cut them off
[06:11] <student> psusi:  well I have to manually copy this since I am using another computer
[06:11] <psusi> student: what's the % used space on the one mounted in /target?
[06:11] <student> /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 5905972 918044 4687916 16% /target
[06:12] <psusi> student: also do a df -T and make sure the filesystem type is ext3
[06:12] <student> df: invalid option -- T
[06:13] <psusi> hrm... that's odd
[06:13] <student> could it be that my CD is defective on this one spot
[06:13] <psusi> did you check it's md5 sum?
[06:13] <student> how do I do that
[06:14] <psusi> which block device is it on?  /dev/hdc?
[06:14] <psusi> then do md5sum /dev/hdc
[06:14] <cleo> student: df -T not df --T
[06:15] <psusi> and make sure the value matches what it should be according to the web site you downloaded the image from
[06:15] <student> cleo: yes I wrote the command that way.  the error line added the extra - (I don't know why)
[06:15] <tokyoahead> how can I set my clock in ubuntu to 24hrs- format?
[06:16] <narles> anyone with ourtunes... from experience.. what controls theme is supported the most with itunes?
[06:18] <Dreamglider> i just opend synaptic, every single package there is marked as installed! i didnt install all of them, what could cause this ?
[06:19] <psusi> Dreamglider: you are looking at the list of installed packages, so all of the packages in that list are obviouly installed
[06:20] <max> hi
[06:20] <Dreamglider> no i'm lookina at the "all" list
[06:20] <psusi> well that's just weird
[06:20] <max> how can i delet the whole kde-desktop
[06:20] <max> ?
[06:21] <Dreamglider> no problem, i reloaded the list, it looks better now
[06:21] <_jason> max, what did you install it with?
[06:22] <Dreamglider> max i belive you can do it in synaptic package manager
[06:22] <deFrysk> sudp apt-get remove kdebase
[06:22] <deFrysk> sudo apt-get remove kdebase
[06:22] <tokyoahead> how can I install a "dynamic binary" .tar.bz2 ?
[06:22] <max> synaptic
[06:23] <_jason> max, then you can do 'sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt'.  I've done that personally.  deFrysk's method will probably work too
[06:23] <tokyoahead> ok I try
[06:23] <kitty_> My Repositorys wil not update and i keep getting a Warning msg when i try to...can someone tell me whats wrong or wht to do
[06:23] <deFrysk> _jason, your way is fine too
[06:23] <deFrysk> more drastic even
[06:23] <max> thx
[06:23] <max> ;)
[06:24] <Bader> hi, I got a huge issue with dapper but I'm on a screen console and don't know understand how to copy the output of the dmesg message then paste it..
[06:24] <gnomefreak> kitty_, can you paste the output of sudo apt-get update in pastebin please
[06:24] <Guard] [an[VO] > .
[06:24] <kitty_> i dunno how
[06:25] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[06:25] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:25] <Bader> a shell client for pastebin woul be great in that moment :(
[06:25] <deFrysk> kitty_, be more specific (or use pastebin)
[06:25] <Bader> everytime I start X it crashes my computer, so I'm stuck with on the terminal
[06:25] <gnomefreak> kitty_, just copy and paste the output on that site of sudo apt-get update and put name in than hit send and give us the link to the page after you hit send
[06:26] <kitty_> ok
[06:27] <gnomefreak> Bader, did you try gksudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to make sure it sees your video card?
[06:27] <narles> can you add songs from your PC to your ipod using rhythmbox music player?
[06:27] <Seveas> !away
[06:27] <ubotu> hmm... away is http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html
[06:28] <Bader> gnomefreak: X start successfully, even GNOME start
[06:28] <kitty_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6898
[06:28] <Bader> gnomefreak: the problem is that then it become freezed
[06:29] <Bader> dmesg neither x.org logs told me what had happen :(
[06:29] <monyetz> ls
[06:29] <tech9iner> moin uMates.. ;] ..
[06:29] <gnomefreak> kitty_, can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin please
[06:30] <gnomefreak> Bader, did you look on bugzilla for that issue in dapper?
[06:30] <tech9iner> so installed off of u 5.0.4 cd's last eve.. then aptgot kde environs and logged into kde side of the u realms ;] ] 
[06:30] <Bader> gnomefreak: I'm on a screen. I've now web browser except links/w3m...
[06:30] <Bader> screen (= GNU Screen)
[06:30] <Syrus> d
[06:31] <tech9iner> but alas.. upon bootup/login im being told 'sound server informational message: error while initializing the sound driver: device: default cant be opened for playback (on such device) the sound server will continue suing the null output device.. '''
[06:31] <kitty_> when itry to it ses permision denied
[06:31] <gnomefreak> Bader, run w3m bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[06:31] <narles> can you add songs from your PC to your ipod using rhythmbox music player?
[06:31] <gnomefreak> kitty_, the command it sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:32] <tech9iner> others in kubuntu have helped me via lsmod confirm my yamaha YMF-744B is the mobo sound..
[06:32] <tech9iner> any clues muchly appreciated matesNlassies..
[06:33] <kitty_> should i paste the whole file in to pastebin
[06:33] <tech9iner> misfit_toy: are ye dead n gone these days mang?... ;] ] ] ] 
[06:33] <Bader> gnomefreak: bugzilla.ubuntu.org doesn't exists...
[06:34] <gnomefreak> kitty_, yes
[06:34] <Bader> doh! .com !
[06:34] <kitty_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6900
[06:34] <Bader> sorry!
[06:34] <drayen> Im trying to  get SSH tunneling working, i need to tunnel an mySQL connection.
[06:34] <deFrysk> doh!.com ?
[06:35] <s_spiff> hey pppl
[06:35] <gnomefreak> kitty_, why do you have more than one sources list
[06:35] <tech9iner> moin s_spiff
[06:35] <kitty_> i have no idia
[06:35] <drayen> i think i've connected okay, as the network tools active services shows the port being open, but the ip source is set to ::1 - not 127.0.0.1 and it seems to be useing tcp6 - help
[06:35] <s_spiff> hey tech9iner
[06:36] <narles> does anyone know how to safely remove an IPOD using ubuntu??
[06:36] <gnomefreak> ok kitty hold on let me see if i can fix this and you can get rid of everything in sources list and paste the one that i give you
[06:36] <s_spiff>  damn, why does this list of names come when i press tab, instead of doin the auto complete crap!
[06:36] <s_spiff> small mj joints?
[06:37] <Bader> gnomefreak: it's a pain to surf with w3m or links on bugzilla. Could you give me directly the bug number you're thinking about ?
[06:37] <Novata> hello
[06:37] <Bader> +please :D
[06:37] <gnomefreak> Bader, give me a few
[06:37] <tokyoahead> can I install RPMs on ubuntu?
[06:38] <s_spiff> hey what client to use to download torrents man?
[06:38] <fusionfox> anyone know  a good web to download GNOME themes??
[06:38] <Seveas> !+themes
[06:38] <ubotu> rumour has it, themes is try installing gnome-art (sudo apt-get install gnome-art) and running it from System -> Preferences -> Art Manager (On Breezy). It downloads and installs themes from http://art.gnome.org/ Some other sites with various themes include: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com See also !KDEThemes
[06:38] <Novata> Can anyone help me with a little problem that i have???
[06:38] <Elsan_> You can use the "alien" package to convert to .deb, tokyoahead.
[06:38] <s_spiff>  i tried bit-torrent ..its crappy ..in comparison to windows bit-torrent client
[06:38] <Elsan_> tokyoahead: But it's not guaranteed to work
[06:38] <tokyoahead> Elsan_ thanks
[06:38] <Dr_Willis> gee the original bit-torrent clients i though were about identical under windows and linux. :P
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> s_spiff,  theres dozens of bittorrent clients out however.
[06:39] <Bader> hmm, i'm currently dist-upgrading. udev upgrade is stalled since 5 minutes...
[06:39] <Elsan_> tokyoahead: "alien package.rpm"
[06:39] <Elsan_> is the command
[06:39] <s_spiff> however?
[06:39] <Bader> Is there any bug report about udev upgrading ?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> so go find one
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:39] <Novata> Can anyone help me with a little problem that i have???
[06:39] <tech9iner> s_spiff: ive found azureus to be my fav here chum
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> Novata,  state the problem and find out.
[06:39] <Catch22-srv> whats the default root pass in ubuntu ?
[06:39] <CarinArr> novata, noone will commit themselves before you ask;)
[06:39] <Catch22-srv> or cant i log in as root in the terminal ?
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> Catch22-srv,  there is none. its  set to use 'sudo'
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> !sudo
[06:40] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:40] <s_spiff> achha ok..will try that out
[06:40] <Bader> dpkg fail to install the new version of /etc/init.d/udev, any ideas for this issue ?
[06:40] <s_spiff> will i get azureus on synaptic?
[06:40] <Novata> i dnt understand very well ur english sorry
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> !azureus
[06:40] <ubotu> rumour has it, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[06:40] <Bader> if I kill dpkg now, would it broke udev ?
[06:41] <gnomefreak> kitty_, here is a full list of sources please get rid of your and add these http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6902
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> Novata,  dont ask to ask.. just state the problem.
[06:41] <tech9iner> no clue here s_spiff .. sorry guv.. been on u/kubuntu less than 24 hours.. not sure what synaptic sources have available thusfar mate
[06:41] <s_spiff> hehe ok.. np
[06:41] <tech9iner> nice bot mates.. kudos to it's keepers ;] ] 
[06:41] <s_spiff> will check it out
[06:41] <kitty_> ok..thanks
[06:41] <CarinArr> !es
[06:41] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:41] <Bader> !i'm somehow in panic :[ (maybe ubotu got help for this)
[06:41] <ubotu> Bader: Are you smoking crack?
[06:41] <CarinArr> heh
[06:42] <Bader> huhu
[06:42] <gnomefreak> kitty_, alot of your sources do not exsist any more and not good to use debian repos in ubuntu
[06:42] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[06:42] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[06:42] <gnomefreak> theres a good place to start
[06:42] <Bader> ubotu: I rather prefer to smoke crack than having my OS broken the day I've a very important work to do... (ok i'm speaking to a bot, it's suspicous...)
[06:42] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, Bader
[06:43] <gnomefreak> Bader, you dont want broken os use breezy
[06:43] <cj> drayen: any luck tunneling that mysql connection?
[06:43] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: hello
[06:43] <kitty_> do i just delete the whole source list and paste the new one into it
[06:43] <gnomefreak> hi C-O-L-T
[06:43] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: could you install the program
[06:43] <tech9iner> moin C-O-L-T
[06:43] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, yes but i didnt do the plug-ins
[06:43] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: but it worked for you?
[06:43] <gnomefreak> the install procedure is at www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc
[06:44] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: you could see the globe and so on?
[06:44] <student> md5sum /dev/hdc
[06:44] <student> md5sum: /dev/hdc: Input/output error
[06:44] <gnomefreak> go to the page called worldwind
[06:44] <Bader> gnomefreak: yes, I'll do in the future, but actually I thought that broken just mean that some features are broken (like the encoding, btw I don't find how to change my default encoding from utf-8 to iso-8859-15 because my main term don't support it (dpkg-reconfigure locales don't give me the hand)) but not the whole system.
[06:45] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, i will remind you its in jave and will be very very slow also the package that it comes as has very minimal add-ons to it
[06:45] <gnomefreak> Bader, dapper is broken
[06:45] <gnomefreak> not packages the whole dapper os
[06:45] <chris_> total noob question alert -  how do i delete files in file browser, specifically a file in /var/www/?
[06:45] <Bader> I understand know why it's called dapper _drake_ (it reminds me an old distribution I got used with...)
[06:46] <mwe> Bader: what do you expect 1/3 of the way to the final release?
[06:46] <gnomefreak> Bader, it wont be realed for another 3-4 months
[06:46] <gnomefreak> released
[06:46] <Bader> mwe: gnomefreak, I was hypnotised by the hype.
[06:46] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: anyway i will try it
[06:46] <gnomefreak> ok C-O-L-T good luck
[06:46] <Bader> anyhow, could I stop dpkg-reconfigure without big risk ?
[06:47] <HappyFool> chris_: you can't delete stuff in /var/www using nautilus (not usually, at least)
[06:47] <Bader> during the install of udev which is stalled...
[06:47] <chris_> ah. so how would I do it via a terminal?
[06:47] <gnomefreak> Bader, seeing as dapper is a big risk i dont see a difference
[06:47] <j3di> ok, where is the ntp.conf file?
[06:47] <Bader> gnomefreak: wise :)
[06:47] <HappyFool> chris_: either use the 'Run as' dialog box to run nautilus as root, or use the command line
[06:47] <j3di> i looked in etc and couldnt find it
[06:47] <kemik> chris_:  if you really want to do it via nautilus, start nautilus as sudo (sudo nautilus)
[06:47] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: I hope it will wokr
[06:47] <kemik> s/as/with
[06:47] <HappyFool> j3di: /etc/ntp.conf ?
[06:47] <j3di> nope
[06:48] <gnomefreak> my instructions work fine i installed it as i wrote it
[06:48] <HappyFool> j3di: hmm, i have one, but it's empty
[06:48] <HappyFool> j3di: you want to change th default time server?
[06:48] <j3di> yep
[06:48] <kitty_> when i use apt-get update.... iit works but i get this msg.. "Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[06:48] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: ok I will try
[06:48] <kitty_> " is this ok
[06:48] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: I am so excited :)
[06:48] <HappyFool> look in /etc/default/ntpdate
[06:48] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: I hope it is something like google earth
[06:49] <mwe> j3di: /etc/default/ntpdate
[06:49] <chris_> thanks very much.  I did sudo nautilus and deleted that way. Im guessing thats not the neatest way, but it worked. so thanks
[06:49] <tech9iner> so mates.. any hints on my failing integrated sound please..
[06:49] <mwe> !sound
[06:49] <tech9iner> others in kubuntu have helped me via lsmod confirm my yamaha YMF-744B is the mobo sound..
[06:49] <ubotu> I guess sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[06:49] <Dreamglider> kde has posibility to have diffrent wallpapers'on each workspace, can this be done with gnome ?
[06:49] <j3di> tight thanx
[06:49] <tech9iner> but alas.. upon bootup/login im being told 'sound server informational message: error while initializing the sound driver: device: default cant be opened for playback (on such device) the sound server will continue suing the null output device.. '''
[06:49] <bipolar> has anyone here used hot swap sata in linux?
[06:50] <tech9iner> tanx mwe ;] ] 
[06:50] <kitty_> Does anyone here know if i can change from gnome to KDE cos its sound alot better
[06:50] <_jason> kitty_, you can install kubuntu-desktop
[06:50] <bipolar> kitty_: join #kubuntu for more info
[06:50] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, i never used google earth it was way too heavy
[06:50] <Dreamglider> kitty_, use synaptic to install it
[06:50] <dirkvdbroek> hey there what was again that command that configured xorg?
[06:51] <_jason> kitty_, out of curiousity, what sounds so much better?
[06:51] <j3di> ok i just installed openssh, and i cant seem to ssh in
[06:51] <Bader> dirkvdbroek: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:51] <_jason> j3di, is port 22 being blocked by anything?
[06:51] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: I like it a lot, I would like some non-online thing but it does not exists as I have seen. For Linux does not
[06:51] <Bader> _jason: KDE begins with a K. This letter sounds so good!
[06:51] <gnomefreak> Bader, close but i think perfered is gksudo
[06:51] <j3di> nope
[06:51] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: anyway can I get a cedega in deb format?
[06:51] <cello_rasp> oh dear. i seem to be getting a bunch of problems with synaptic: http://pastebin.com/499525
[06:52] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, dont know i dont use it
[06:52] <gnomefreak> !cedega
[06:52] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[06:52] <j3di> it tries to connect but says it was "unable to connect using the preconfigured authentication methods"
[06:52] <cello_rasp> and i cant find many packages with spm either..
[06:52] <Bader> gnomefreak: why a graphical stuff when the configuration tool is only text ? Doesn't this confuse the user ?
[06:52] <j3di> sorry "configured"
[06:52] <_jason> cello_rasp, sudo apt-get update, what's that do?
[06:52] <gnomefreak> Bader, the xsever-xorg is not text its graphical kind of
[06:53] <gnomefreak> !gksudo
[06:53] <ubotu> somebody said gksudo was Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root priveleges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[06:53] <Bader> dpkg-reconfigure isn't gtk, no ?
[06:53] <cello_rasp> _jason: it updates but let's see if spm is still affected
[06:53] <Bader> neither X, isn't it ?
[06:53] <Catch22-srv> when i do sudo ifconfig eth1 up it says timer expired?
[06:53] <gnomefreak> Bader, it is but than again its not its not a plain text config
[06:54] <bipolar> Bader: no. it's not running in X, it's a console app
[06:54] <cello_rasp> thanks _jason that fixed it
[06:55] <lowman62> g'aftnoon room :)
[06:56] <Bader> gnomefreak: well, It isn't graphical too, it's an ncurse app, I don't understand why you'll use gksudo which use X when X is unconfigured...
[06:56] <_jason> when I do gksudo nautilus, the icon set seems to be missing.  Everything has a blank page or a red x as an icon.  Anyone know what's going on and what I can do to fix it?
[06:56] <skeff> hi! How can I install the _latest_ nvidia driver?  There is only v7667 in the Ubuntu repository, though the latest is v8178
[06:56] <Bader> _jason: If you find tell me :)
[06:56] <trappist> skeff: get it from nvidia.com
[06:57] <s_spiff> hey how to install a .tar.gz?
[06:57] <s_spiff> i downloaded abc client for linux
[06:57] <trappist> s_spiff: first, you extract its contents
[06:57] <s_spiff> its in a .tar.gz file
[06:57] <s_spiff> ok..then?
[06:57] <trappist> tar zxf file.tar.gz
[06:57] <trappist> then it depends on what's in it
[06:58] <student> are there any net-nanny type programs available for ubuntu?  also, are there any lock-down type applications so I can control a public station?  Thanks.
[06:58] <s_spiff> trappist, http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/download.php
[06:58] <trappist> student: dansguardian
[06:58] <s_spiff> can u check it out?
[06:58] <s_spiff> and walk me through it?
[06:58] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: You are my hero, it works. You saved me :))) Thanks you again, it works, slower than google earth but it has a lot more details in some point of view
[06:58] <trappist> s_spiff: no.  look for a README or INSTALL file in the extracted tarball.
[06:58] <s_spiff> ok
[06:58] <alekandr> C-O-L-T: google earth?
[06:59] <alekandr> what program you using
[06:59] <NilssonHarHund> I've got a Dell latitude X1 and was wondering if someone has yet managed to get the sd-reader to work?
[06:59] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, im glad your happy if you add on the add-ons it will do more
[06:59] <gnomefreak> alekandr, ww2d
[06:59] <alekandr> Can I spy on people?
[06:59] <trappist> student: that is, dansguardian for the first question and bastille-linux for the second
[06:59] <NilssonHarHund> found a patch, but I'm unsure about how to istall it, and wheter or not it works on my machine
[06:59] <alekandr> oh noes
[07:00] <Dreamglider> is there anything like Cedega that is free of charge ?
[07:00] <alekandr> trappist: i wouldnt suggest bastille, its a bit combersome, and more int-adv and could fuck things up
[07:00] <alekandr> Dreamglider: wine is free
[07:00] <lowman62> gnomefreak: ww2d is like google earth?
[07:00] <trappist> Dreamglider: there's the cvs version of cedega
[07:00] <Cry_Mac_Ubuntu> !java-debs
[07:00] <ubotu> Cry_Mac_Ubuntu: Not a clue
[07:00] <Bader> fine, I did a dist-upgrade, It works n
[07:00] <gnomefreak> lowman62, yes similar
[07:00] <Bader> thanks gnomefreak
[07:00] <C-O-L-T> alekandr: http://www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc/worldwind.htm
[07:00] <gnomefreak> Bader, yw
[07:01] <Bader> and about encoding, why dpkg-reconfigure locales don't let me change the encoding ?
[07:01] <Bader> and how to change the default encoding ?
[07:01] <lowman62> is that available through sudo apt-get install ?
[07:01] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: thanks again and who asks about google earth just say to him or her your page, because you have done a good step by step easy guide
[07:01] <s_spiff> trappist, it has quite a few .py files
[07:01] <gnomefreak> lowman62, no
[07:01] <student> trappist: neither one of those packages show up in my synaptic.  Do I need to enable a certain repository?
[07:01] <s_spiff> one names setupabc.py
[07:01] <trappist> s_spiff: try sudo python setupabc.py
[07:01] <s_spiff> but when i try it ./setupabc , it doesn't work
[07:02] <lowman62> gnomefreak: may I know where you can get it?
[07:02] <gnomefreak> lowman62, hold on let me get the dirct page to my site the site for it is on there
[07:02] <lowman62> ok thanks :)
[07:03] <s_spiff> trappist, it gave me an error..  ImportError: No module named py2exe
[07:03] <gnomefreak> lowman62, http://www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc/worldwind.htm
[07:03] <trappist> s_spiff: can't help ya there.  you'll need to refer to the documentation.
[07:03] <zAo^> can some1 plz sent me his metacity-theme-1.xml ?
[07:04] <lowman62> gnomefreak: thank you :)
[07:04] <gnomefreak> i will be putting the site in html on the webpages page
[07:04] <gnomefreak> yw
[07:04] <trappist> zAo^: I have a dozen of those
[07:04] <zAo^> :)
[07:04] <zAo^> where I start gnome-theme-manager I get:
[07:04] <trappist> zAo^: one for each theme
[07:04] <s_spiff> trappist, it says : in bash shell set "export BROWSER=$BROWSER:Konqueror"  if i use Konqueror
[07:04] <s_spiff> what will that do?
[07:04] <zAo^> indowmanager waarschuwing:Kan thema niet uit bestand /usr/share/themes/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml lezen: Openen van bestand '/usr/share/themes/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml' mislukt: No such file or directory
[07:05] <mcphail> A question for the panel: fetchmail or getmail? Which do you trust on your box?
[07:05] <trappist> s_spiff: that will add konqueror to your $BROWSER environment variable
[07:05] <trappist> fetchmail if I were to run either
[07:05] <zAo^> trappist, you know what is wrong? need the default metacity one :)
[07:05] <bluefoxicy> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326496  Here's something ridiculous for you
[07:06] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: I will always hava to open the program with java -jar?
[07:06] <bluefoxicy> Can you believe these tards actually put the userlist in as a pop-up instead of a list?
[07:06] <trappist> zAo^: I have no idea which is the default
[07:06] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: I can not get an icon
[07:06] <bluefoxicy> (and the new ubuntu desktop in dapper installs xchat-gnome)
[07:06] <trappist> C-O-L-T: you could write a small wrapper script
[07:06] <_jason> Bader, ok I figured it out :) (the icon thing).  You have to create a symlink to your user's ~/.icon in /root/
[07:06] <s_spiff> and what does that do?
[07:06] <zAo^> trappist, plz send me /usr/share/themes/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml
[07:06] <mcphail> I hadn't heard of getmail until today. The FAQ is vitriolic about fetchmail
[07:06] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, that how i was running it if you give me some more time i can prolly find out how to make that a launcher for you panel
[07:07] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: thanks. Why this small program is so complicated? Why simply can not be a deb file like other normal application
[07:07] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, what is the full command?
[07:07] <gnomefreak> to run it
[07:07] <trappist> zAo^: closest match I have is usr/share/themes/Human/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml
[07:08] <trappist> zAo^: provided by ubuntu-artwork
[07:08] <Bader> _jason: you mean .icons, thanks :)
[07:08] <zAo^> trappist, hmm.. thnx. Try something here first :)
[07:08] <trappist> zAo^: maybe apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-artwork
[07:08] <_jason> Bader, yep
[07:08] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, i will attempt to write a fast lil script to cd to the places and this way you just run the script name
[07:09] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: ok\
[07:09] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: thanks again
[07:09] <zAo^> trappist, I'll try that, thnx
[07:09] <bipolar> is there a way to stop ssh from encrypting the ip/hostname in the known_hosts file?
[07:09] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, it will more than likey be tomorrow
[07:09] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: no problem
[07:09] <trappist> bipolar: it's not encrypted
[07:09] <Teskupo> i got a problem with the azureus and the path :(
[07:09] <trappist> bipolar: those are host keys
[07:10] <jawshoewah> what is the command to see what video card is?
[07:10] <Teskupo> have any the azureus installed?
[07:10] <jawshoewah> what my video card is?
[07:10] <bipolar> trappist: no, I mean the IP/Hostname. it's all encripted. It started doing this in dapper.
[07:10] <Dreamglider> Teskupo, i do
[07:10] <soundray> bipolar, I know what you mean, I see this in breezy, too.
[07:10] <cello_rasp> Teskupo: all the cool kis use mutorrent on wine
[07:10] <trappist> bipolar: check /etc/ssh/ssh_config or ~/.ssh/config and look for HashKnownHosts
[07:11] <jawshoewah> is it xorg.conf?
[07:11] <Teskupo> and how you do it Dreamglider ?
[07:11] <soundray> ahuman01, cool, trappist, thanks.
[07:11] <bipolar> trappist: thanks. I'll look into it
[07:11] <eccf> what package is the cmd 'import' packaged in?
[07:11] <Dreamglider> Teskupo, i installed it using automatrix
[07:12] <trappist> eccf: imagemagick I believe
[07:12] <Teskupo> And what is taht Dreamglider , i new in ubuntu :$ sorry
[07:12] <jawshoewah> does anyone know the terminal command to have your video hardware listed?
[07:12] <eccf> trappist, ok. let me try.
[07:12] <trappist> eccf: confirmed.  imagemagick.
[07:12] <Gn0m3> spanish?
[07:12] <trappist> jawshoewah: lspci
[07:13] <jawshoewah> tyty
[07:13] <trappist> Gn0m3: #ubuntu-es
[07:13] <Gn0m3> thnx
[07:13] <eccf> trappist, cool. installing now.
[07:13] <tech9iner> arg.. ive installed several distros on these old Pll 366 toughbooks.. ubuntu 1st one that doesnt like my yamaha YMF-744B mobo sound arch.. ;[[.. 'aplay -l' gets me 'aplay: device_list:200: no soundcards found...' ;[...
[07:13] <eccf> hmm. is there a way to get rid of the ubuntu logo at gnome taskbar? i like footprint better :)
[07:13] <tech9iner> yet the yamaha modules are loaded.. scratching bloody spot on 4head here..
[07:13] <trappist> tech9iner: ymfpci?
[07:14] <trappist> tech9iner: snd-ymfpci?
[07:15] <wicht1> wi mach ich verknpfungen auf den desktop?
[07:15] <tech9iner> aye trappist .. thanks mate.. may i pm ya the 7-10 lines of lsmod snd refs mate?
[07:15] <wicht1> z.B von dem firefox
[07:15] <tech9iner> or pastebin.. ur call trappist
[07:16] <eccf> trappist, you have any idea how to get rid of ubuntu logo at gnome taskbar? like change it to the original footprint logo instead, or did you use other WM?
[07:16] <tech9iner> !themes
[07:16] <trappist> tech9iner: pastebin is preferred
[07:17] <trappist> eccf: I don't use gnome
[07:17] <tech9iner> aye trappist .. brb w url mate thanks
[07:17] <eccf> trappist, ok.
[07:18] <trappist> eccf: when you have a new question, you'll generally have better luck addressing the channel.  if someone who knows sees a line starting with 'trappist' he may not read the rest.
[07:18] <tech9iner> trappist: http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=499577.. ur time appreciated muchly guv ;] ] 
[07:19] <topyli> eccf: i don't know how to change it really, but it's not any business of the window manager (in gnome that is)
[07:19] <tech9iner> my bad trappist http://pastebin.com/499577 even ;[
[07:19] <trappist> tech9iner: much better, thanks :)
[07:19] <tech9iner> grabbed wrong url mate
[07:20] <eccf> ok. it seems that i might go for other alternative beside gnome. this laptop has a low 900mhz CPU and 256MB of RAM. i might try openbox or xfce.
[07:20] <tech9iner> twould seem here alls in place for sound.. yet u just doesnt like current configs?
[07:20] <tech9iner> xfce is nice where lean is needed eccf
[07:21] <eccf> but honestly, gnome is very user-friendly by the default installation.
[07:21] <trappist> tech9iner: looks pretty good to me.  I've never seen your soundcard, I was just making sure you knew which modules to look for.  do other sound apps work?
[07:21] <eccf> tech9iner, yeah. i might try that. i saw an article on ubuntuforums that teach step by step to change over to xfce :)
[07:22] <osfameron> any hints on setting up a umts card?
[07:22] <osfameron> running the provider script, it stops on the "ATZ" command
[07:22] <osfameron> also, I don't appear to have a ppp0 device
[07:22] <osfameron> I'm lost in treacle and without much clue - pointers?
[07:22] <bluefoxicy> dude
[07:23] <Teskupo> Dreamglider, are you still there?
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> I just installed ubuntu and upgraded to dapper in qemu
[07:23] <tech9iner> trappist: well sys notifications like beeps here on irc messgs inbound.. and error beeps n such.. havent tried any mp3's n such or music playback yet..
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> logged into gnome after a reboot
[07:23] <jawshoewah> lspci lists SiS as video controller but not specs it's an on-board video unit and im trying to figure out it's specs
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> it uses 90 megs of ram, including gnome-terminal
[07:23] <bluefoxicy> to get to the desktop
[07:23] <juan32> for a windows partition i need fat32 no?
[07:23] <Teskupo> ntfs too no?
[07:24] <tech9iner> kind of assumed if im getting upon bootup/login 'sound server informational message: error while initializing the sound driver: device: default cant be opened for playback (on such device) the sound server will continue suing the null output device.. '''.. trying mp3's was wasted effort no?
[07:24] <juan32> teskupo whats is better?
[07:24] <mwe> tech9iner: yeah
[07:24] <mwe> tech9iner: fix the error first
[07:24] <mwe> !tell tech9iner about sound
[07:24] <juan32> Teskupo, whats is better ntfs or fat32?
[07:24] <jawshoewah> whats strange about having a dual boot is linux "sees" the winblows partition but windoze wont recognize unix
[07:24] <mwe> tech9iner: read /msg from ubotu
[07:24] <student> has anyone used dansguardian before?
[07:24] <tech9iner> btw trappist .. #kubuntu guru did mention some bit bout proper user perms assignments for audio had been a problem..
[07:25] <osfameron> !umts
[07:25] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, osfameron
[07:25] <jawshoewah> any terminal commands more informative than lspci?
[07:25] <_jason> jawshoewah, lshw
[07:25] <gnomefreak> lspci is the command
[07:25] <tech9iner> again.. thanks chap mwe ;] ] 
[07:25] <Teskupo> juan32 do you know spanish?
[07:25] <juan32> si
[07:25] <Teskupo> vale toma este link jje
[07:25] <trappist> tech9iner: check out the permissions on /dev/dsp
[07:25] <Teskupo> http://www.configurarequipos.com/tema774-7-0.html
[07:25] <tech9iner> k trappist .. thanks..
[07:25] <_jason> jawshoewah, sudo lshw -C display, if you want display info
[07:26] <Teskupo> que yo me explico muy mal juan32 , si no te keda claro dime
[07:26] <slew> i have a windows partition on this drive, and it shows up in ubuntu as an icon on the desktop. im not able to see the contents of this partition, how do i remove the icon?
[07:26] <juan32> ok vale Teskupo
[07:26] <trappist> slew: you'd rather remove the icon, or fix permissions on the drive?
[07:26] <Dreamglider> Teskupo, i'm still here
[07:27] <graft> slew, is the drive automounted?
[07:27] <Teskupo> can you read the private Dreamglider ?
[07:27] <Teskupo> espero que te sirva juan32
[07:27] <slew> trappist, id rather just not have the icon at all
[07:27] <Dreamglider> Teskupo, i msg'd you but no reply
[07:27] <trappist> juan32, Teskupo: #ubuntu-es por favor
[07:28] <eccf> when i tried to sudo apt-get install ssh, it said please insert disc. isn't it force to d/l the latest version w/ patches or whatever from the repo?
[07:28] <slew> its in /etc/fstab as default, i changed it to noauto and its still there
[07:28] <Teskupo> i reply you....
[07:28] <mcphail> eccf: remove the disk from your sources list
[07:28] <trappist> eccf: get rid of the cdrom line in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:29] <graft> slew, is it still mounted?
[07:29] <eccf> ah. that explains. thanks guy :)
[07:29] <Teskupo> i reply you....again... i have to do something to could reply?? :S Dreamglider
[07:29] <slew> graft, i suppose. i look at it and it tells me i have no permissions to view it
[07:29] <tech9iner> trappist: okaaaaay.... weird.. there IS NO '/dev/dsp' according to konqeuror.. hmmmmmm??
[07:29] <gorski> hello, i have problems playbacking recorded sound!
[07:29] <_jason> Teskupo, you have to be registered to send /msg
[07:29] <tech9iner> could be relative eh mates?.. rofl
[07:29] <Dreamglider> anyone, why cant i see Teskupo reply in private ?
[07:29] <graft> slew, does it show up when you type "mount"? i mean if you haven't rebooted since you changed 'default' to 'noauto', it'll probably still be mounted
[07:30] <_jason> Dreamglider, he's not registered
[07:30] <Teskupo> o i see _jason... and where i can do that??
[07:30] <trappist> tech9iner: well that explains a little.  it should appear when the correct driver gets loaded.  do you see your sound card in the output of lspci?
[07:30] <_jason> ubotu, tell Teskupo about register
[07:30] <Dreamglider> allroght
[07:30] <gorski> hello, i have problems playbacking recorded sound!
[07:30] <slew> graft, naw i changed fstab last night and shut it down. its still here this morning
[07:30] <tech9iner> now only way i could be missing /dev/dsp is via the aptget upgrade of unbuntu 5.0.5 to kubuntu maybe?..
[07:30] <tech9iner> arg.. 5.0.5/.4 dammit
[07:30] <graft> well, what does "mount" say?
[07:31] <Dreamglider> Teskupo, you need to register your nick in order to talk in private mate
[07:31] <trappist> tech9iner: no, /dev/dsp is a device.  not provided by a package.
[07:31] <Teskupo> o i see
[07:31] <Teskupo> i will do it
[07:31] <slew> graft, dosent mention the ntfs drive
[07:31] <graft> hrmrmrmrm
[07:31] <graft> you're running gnome?
[07:31] <slew> yeah
[07:31] <computerdude> When I use apt-get where does it save the files too?
[07:31] <graft> maybe it shows icons for all mount points by default... dunno much about gnome, unfortunately
[07:32] <slew> i think i'll just take the line out of fstab.
[07:32] <graft> yeah just comment it out
[07:32] <jawshoewah> im trying to figure out if my on board video is hardware accelerated and what it's memory rating is
[07:32] <jawshoewah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6906
[07:32] <slew> k that seemed to do it. =] 
[07:32] <jawshoewah> can someone help  me decipher?
[07:33] <Catch22-srv> is there a c compiler in ubuntu which i can easily install ?
[07:33] <gorski> hello, i have problems playbacking recorded sound!
[07:34] <Seveas> !tell Catch22-srv about compiling
[07:34] <BxL> where is the official ubuntu starter guide?
[07:34] <_jason> BxL, help.ubuntu.com
[07:35] <BxL> thanks _jason
[07:35] <omer> What is the gcc version the kernel conpile with? (5.10)
[07:35] <tech9iner> so trappist .. how doth one check perms on /dev/dsp if not seen by konqueror please?
[07:35] <Seveas> omer, 3.4
[07:35] <omer> thank
[07:35] <trappist> tech9iner: if it doesn't exist it has no perms.  step 1: make it exist.
[07:36] <jawshoewah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6906
[07:36] <jawshoewah> can someone help  me decipher?
[07:36] <jawshoewah> im trying to figure out if my on board video is hardware accelerated and what it's memory rating is
[07:36] <trappist> tech9iner: or if it's a potential konqueror issue, ls -l /dev/dsp on the command line
[07:36] <wolf> can ne bod tell what is DEBIAN
[07:36] <Seveas> !tell wolf about debian
[07:37] <juan23> !tell juan23 about debian
[07:38] <gnomefreak> its a 128mb video care jawshoewah
[07:38] <graft> jawshoewah: post lspci -v instead of lshw, please
[07:39] <gnomefreak> im not sure what maker it is though :(
[07:39] <gnomefreak> other than sis
[07:39] <gnomefreak> !sis
[07:39] <ubotu> gnomefreak: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[07:41] <soundray> Do you know of anyone who has deb-packaged Gnash?
[07:41] <kkathman> good day - just did an adept update, rebooted and have no connectivity to my network (system is up and running).. dhclient eth0 shows no discovery, no leases - sleeping
[07:41] <kkathman> could someone offer some ideas on how to possibly rectify this>
[07:42] <kkathman> btw pinging my gateway gives Network is unreachable
[07:42] <graft> kkathman: does eth0 get recognized by your kernel?
[07:42] <trappist> kkathman: if you ifconfig eth0 does it show an ip address?
[07:42] <jawshoewah> i ran glxinfo it gave me a warning 3d driver returned no fbconfigs
[07:42] <kkathman> graft I did a lspci and the ethernet does show
[07:42] <kkathman> graft:  is there something else you had in mind?
[07:43] <jawshoewah> is fbconfigs a module i need?
[07:43] <graft> yeah... that just means it's on the PCI bus... doesn't mean the appropriate kernel module finds it
[07:43] <tech9iner> k trappist .. sorry.. ups at door ;] .. anyhoo.. running ls -l /dev/dsp now
[07:43] <kkathman> sudo /etc/init.d/ifupdown   and inetd  restart all work properly
[07:44] <graft> what's ifconfig -a tell you?
[07:44] <graft> err... what do you mean "all work properly"?
[07:44] <tech9iner> ls: /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[07:44] <kkathman> graft - eth0 shows a haw addr, but no IP
[07:44] <tech9iner> hmmm.. strange days trappist ...
[07:45] <kkathman> there is a sit0 there now that wasnt there before
[07:45] <tech9iner> never even installed any distro b4 that removed the standard dev/dsp .. wierd no doubt ;] 
[07:46] <kkathman> graft:   what I mean by that those processes were ok...was that they return [ok] 
[07:46] <trappist> tech9iner: there's no standard /dev/dsp being removed - it doesn't exist until the proper drivers are loaded for an existing sound card
[07:46] <mwe> tech9iner: missing /dev/dsp probably means the sound driver is not loaded
[07:46] <kkathman> graft:  I now have 3 entries there:  eth0, lo, and sit0  (dont remember the sit0 before)
[07:46] <trappist> tech9iner: modprobe -r your sound card drivers, re-modprobe them, and check dmesg for any errors
[07:46] <graft> kkathman: is the eth0 address the same as the one for your card in lspci?
[07:47] <kkathman> graft there is no eth0 IP address
[07:47] <kkathman> graft you mean the HWaddr ??
[07:47] <graft> yeah, the HWaddr
[07:48] <kkathman> graft lspci doesnt show me any HW address that I can see
[07:48] <tech9iner> k trappist .. modprobe cli'z now..
[07:49] <graft> err... yeah that's right, sorry...
[07:49] <kkathman> graft well I say that...the Ethernet line is preceded by 0000:00:12.0
[07:49] <tech9iner> assuming here trappist mwe that syntax = 'modprobe -r snd-ympci' the 'modprobe snd-ympci'.. ?.. aye please?.. [quite buggered n gui dependent foo here mates ;] ] here ;] ] 
[07:49] <tech9iner> the/then
[07:49] <jawshoewah> fbconfigs???
[07:50] <trappist> tech9iner: yes
[07:50] <tech9iner> tanx chum
[07:50] <bsn_ua> hello everybody)
[07:50] <trappist> tech9iner: preceded by 'sudo' so it will run as root
[07:50] <davix> http://www.pwned.nl/ayb/
[07:50] <kkathman> graft I tried the sudo network-admin... it shows that the eth0 is active, and I was able to deactivate and reactivate
[07:50] <bsn_ua> i have a little question
[07:50] <graft> kkathman: yeah, that's just the bus line... you're right, lspci doesn't tell you the mac address.. my memory was bad
[07:50] <tech9iner> aye.. actually had that in mind 2 my rare credit lol
[07:50] <mwe> kkathman: did you try sudo dhclient eth0?
[07:51] <kkathman> mwe  yes... the result is that there is no DHCPDISCOVERY... and no leases - all sleeping
[07:51] <yggdrasil_> Awesome guys
[07:51] <yggdrasil_> ive got linux installed
[07:51] <yggdrasil_> what do i do now
[07:51] <nalioth> yggdrasil_: enjoy the internet with no thought of viruses or trojans
[07:52] <graft> kkathman: does it do DHCPREQUESTs?
[07:52] <trappist> tech9iner: bbiaf, lunch
[07:52] <graft> i mean wtf is it doing?
[07:53] <tech9iner> tanx trappist 4 headsup guv.. enjoy ye meal mate
[07:53] <yggdrasil_> is that it ?!!
[07:53] <graft> yggdrasil_: play galaga
[07:53] <yggdrasil_> oooh now your talking
[07:53] <bsn_ua> where can i find package pkg-config?
[07:53] <yggdrasil_> actualy that xsabre thing is pretty cool
[07:53] <graft> also get snes9x!
[07:53] <tech9iner> PCI: Enabling device 0000:00:09.0 (0000 -> 0003)    ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:09.0[A]  -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11    codec_ready: codec 0 is not ready [0x801a]     Yamaha DS-XG PCI: probe of 0000:00:09.0 failed with error -5
[07:53] <kkathman> graft  it reports first that sit0 - unknown hardware address type 776 (twice)  then does only DHCPDISCOVERs on eth0  no DHCPOFFERS received No working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[07:54] <mwe> kkathman: I don't know. can you ping the router?
[07:54] <yggdrasil_> will this linux help me impress the womens ?
[07:54] <tech9iner> hmmm.. dmesg snd ref bit interesting..
[07:54] <kkathman> mwe no - it says Network is unreachable
[07:54] <graft> ergh... kkathman, did you build your own kernel?
[07:54] <mwe> kkathman: are the cables plugged in? :)
[07:54] <kkathman> graft no --- all I did was install the updates to breezy for today
[07:54] <kkathman> thats it
[07:55] <kkathman> then rebooted
[07:55] <mwe> kkathman: breezy?
[07:55] <kkathman> mwe yes breezy
[07:55] <decaf> anyone has a via km266? or tries to use usb mouse with via8233 south chip?
[07:55] <mwe> oh yeah you said so
[07:55] <tech9iner> yggdrasil_ of course it helps w womens!! ;] ] ... please review http://www.nata2.info/humor/flash/switchlinux3.swf rofl
[07:55] <graft> yggdrasil_ - if you hang around MIT, maybe
[07:56] <mwe> kkathman: what updates did it install?
[07:56] <mwe> kkathman: new kernel or what?
[07:56] <graft> must have done something
[07:56] <graft> that sit0 thing, btw, is some ipv6-related thing
[07:56] <graft> you almost definitely don't want it
[07:56] <tech9iner> georgeous femme bots an all yggdrasil_ rofl
[07:57] <yggdrasil_> hahha
[07:57] <kkathman> graft I imagine I dont
[07:57] <yggdrasil_> yall are a group of good guys
[07:57] <graft> yggdrasil_, who says we're all guys?
[07:57] <Pygi> seveas: ping
[07:57] <kkathman> aha
[07:57] <yggdrasil_> a thousand pardons miss
[07:57] <graft> well, i'm a guy, i'm just saying..
[07:58] <Seveas> Pygi, ICMP ECHO REPLY
[07:58] <Pygi> seveas: that whitespace thingy is erghhhh...
[07:58] <yggdrasil_> ohaha
[07:58] <kkathman> graft well I went to network-admin  and set it to static - and that works fine
[07:58] <yggdrasil_> ok now im confused
[07:58] <graft> guhuh?
[07:58] <Seveas> Pygi, :D
[07:58] <graft> okay that's fucking wierd
[07:59] <gorski> how to restart apache2?
[07:59] <graft> kkathman: what modules have oyu got loaded?
[07:59] <mwe> gorski: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[08:00] <kkathman> graft:  well quite a few Im sure
[08:00] <gorski> command not found?
[08:00] <mwe> what's a teql interface?
[08:00] <mimi> uy
[08:00] <mwe> ifconfig -a shows teql1
[08:00] <Pygi> seveas: and this .... Brainfuck .... huh, I shall not even comment
[08:00] <graft> kkathman: you oughta find whatever module inserts sit0 and kill it
[08:00] <kkathman> graft:  interesting that network-admin was able to setup that eth0 for static
[08:00] <graft> yeah, that is interesting, and annoying
[08:00] <Seveas> Pygi, it's all just turing machines :)
[08:01] <kkathman> graft would that be in the /etc/network/interfaces?
[08:01] <tech9iner> > codec_ready: codec 0 is not ready [0x801a]      Yamaha DS-XG PCI: probe of 0000:00:09.0 failed with error -5
[08:01] <tech9iner> k.. ran modprobe -r snd-ymfpci and then reloaded module.. then dmesg's last lines include
[08:01] <tech9iner> above that is
[08:01] <EdgeLnx> Hi guys
[08:01] <gorski> please?
[08:01] <graft> no no
[08:01] <kkathman> graft  nope it isnt in that file
[08:01] <tech9iner>  /me is still gettn used to new chat client ;] 
[08:01] <EdgeLnx> Does anyone know how I could update my Firefox under Ubuntu 5.10? plz
[08:01] <graft> kkathman you have to get it out of the kernel
[08:02] <jordi_> hello, during kubuntu install on an amd64 i got the errormsg "the ext2 filesystem has a rather strange layout", i searched the forum but really found nothing to solve this problem
[08:02] <tech9iner> !ftp
[08:02] <ubotu> Good FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP server: proftpd
[08:02] <mwe> !tell EdgeLnx about ff1.5
[08:02] <gorski> how to restart apache2?
[08:02] <tech9iner> !ftp-install
[08:02] <mwe> gorski: I told you
[08:02] <graft> and make sure you're not aliasing eth0 in /etc/modules.conf and such
[08:02] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, tech9iner
[08:02] <mwe> gorski: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[08:02] <EdgeLnx> Thanx mwe
[08:02] <kkathman> graft let me check rc3d
[08:02] <kkathman> errr.. sorry rc2d
[08:02] <tech9iner> !ftp install
[08:02] <ubotu> tech9iner: Are you smoking crack?
[08:03] <gorski> ok, sorry
[08:03] <gorski> tnx
[08:03] <graft> check for eth0 in /etc/modules.conf
[08:03] <tech9iner> k.. so mates.. is there ftp installs available for kubuntu please?
[08:03] <insomnd> how can i find the hostname of an IP address?
[08:03] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell tech9iner about install
[08:03] <tech9iner> tanx gnomefreak ;] ] 
[08:03] <gnomefreak> yw
[08:03] <Pygi> freaky: Have you wrote it?
[08:03] <mwe> modules.conf? I don't have that file on my machine
[08:03] <gnomefreak> Insidious, whois <ip address>
[08:04] <gnomefreak> Pygi, yes and i think i oh damn
[08:04] <gaertner> jemand von den foren admins da ? user nalfein kann nicht posten ...
[08:04] <gnomefreak> sorry i forgot to send it :(
[08:04] <kkathman> graft modules   or modules.conf?
[08:04] <cantspeakslowly> Hi, I'm looking to set up a network of computers running ubuntu that share a common set of user accounts (university computer lab style.) I don't want thin clients -- the individual computers can handle the OS, but I do need a users desktop environment and home directory to be consistent regardless of which computer they log in to. Can anybody give me some help on where to start looking for this  kind of information?
[08:04] <Pygi> freaky: ah, can you send now?
[08:04] <Pygi> cant: Use NIS
[08:04] <gorski> how to correctly configure MySQL server's socket?
[08:04] <yosef> Can someone help me understand where mt cd drives are? how are cd drives mounted in linux?
[08:04] <Pygi> cant: or NIS+
[08:05] <kkathman> graft  there is not a modules.conf in /etc/
[08:05] <graft> kkathman: err first do lsmod and see if you have an ipv6 module loading
[08:05] <soundray> insomnd, man host, man dig
[08:05] <kkathman> graft yes I do
[08:05] <gnomefreak> im sending it now
[08:05] <Pygi> freaky: kk
[08:05] <gnomefreak> wati error
[08:05] <kkathman> ipv6 is in the lsmod list
[08:06] <graft> kkathman: rmmod that shit
[08:06] <mwe> cantspeakslowly: you _need_ a common server for that. /home should be on a shared drive
[08:06] <Keiser> Anybody here have any experience with Breezy on the Sparc platform?
[08:06] <knewt> i'm trying to install breezy, but base-config is failing during the first boot with this error in the log: libesd-alsa0: Conflicts: libesd0 but 0.2.36-1ubuntu5 is to be installed
[08:06] <kkathman> graft  just rmmod ipv6 ??
[08:06] <knewt> any ideas?
[08:06] <graft> yeh
[08:06] <graft> then do sudo dhclient eth0
[08:06] <jordi_> hello, during (k)ubuntu install on an amd64 system, i tried reiserfs and ext3 filesystems, i got the errormsg "the ext2 filesystem has a rather strange layout", i searched the forum but really found nothing to solve this problem
[08:06] <gorski> how to configure MySQL server's socket?
[08:06] <kkathman> aha... graft - says its in use :)
[08:06] <Blippe> is there any difference between the server install on kubuntu and ubuntu?
[08:07] <graft> goo! mother of pearl
[08:07] <Pygi> blippe: no
[08:07] <mwe> gorski: configure it's socket?
[08:07] <soundray> jordi_, is this error associated with a failure, or is it just a warning?
[08:07] <gnomefreak> Pygi, its still erroring might have to wait
[08:07] <Blippe> thanks Pygi
[08:07] <mwe> gorski: what exactly are you trying to do?
[08:07] <goo> graft: uh, sorry?
[08:07] <Pygi> freaky: huh, what kind of error?
[08:07] <jordi_> a warning, but when it can't copy files
[08:07] <graft> hehe... err, sorry, goo
[08:07] <gnomefreak> 4.3.0 mail server rejected it
[08:07] <graft> i was just cursing
[08:07] <jordi_> a failure is coming
[08:08] <wicht1> kann ich mit gnome eigentlich auch transparenz machen?
[08:08] <graft> kkathman: well, you have to get that ipv6 out of there somehow
[08:08] <soundray> !de
[08:08] <mwe> !de
[08:08] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[08:08] <wicht1> also bei fenstern
[08:08] <graft> you say you don't have an /etc/modules.conf?
[08:08] <omer> Hello
[08:08] <graft> what about an /etc/modules?
[08:08] <gorski> configuring mythtv, i am in firefox now on localhost phpmyadmin
[08:08] <kkathman> graft I didnt have an /etc/modules.conf either
[08:08] <graft> err... well try /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[08:08] <soundray> jordi_, I'm not sure I understand. What is the problem you're trying to solve right now?
[08:08] <Zerlinna> #fedora
[08:08] <Zerlinna> ups
[08:09] <gorski> how to configure mysql socket?
[08:09] <elvin> Hey
[08:09] <omer> I have header files just for 2.6.12-9-386 when my kernel is 2.6.12-10-386. How I fix it?
[08:09] <mwe> gorski: configure it's socket?
[08:09] <mwe> gorski: what exactly are you trying to do?
[08:09] <jordi_> soundray my problem is that i cant install on my partition and this above is the only errormsg
[08:09] <mwe> gorski: IIRC I already asked that
[08:09] <gorski> yes, but how?
[08:10] <cantspeakslowly> mwe: I assume I'll need one server for data storage, but all the stuff I'm finding on thin clients has the server doing all the processing, which seems pointless if the clients  have enough power... any ideas on howtos or similar for getting my head around the problem?
[08:10] <gorski> command, please!
[08:10] <mwe> gorski: please tell me what exactly your trying to do
[08:10] <gorski> i want to set the password for mysql
[08:10] <elvin> Ive just started linux for the first time and Im looking for a website with lots of applications for linux to install
[08:10] <soundray> jordi_, did you format the partition as part of the install?
[08:10] <mwe> cantspeakslowly: just mount /home as a nfs share on the machines
[08:10] <IAmAI> Hello.
[08:10] <knewt> grr. this is annoying
[08:11] <_jason> ubotu, tell elvin about synaptic
[08:11] <cantspeakslowly> Pygi: any particuarly good resources for getting started with NIS/NIS+ ?
[08:11] <mwe> cantspeakslowly: at least that's my advice
[08:11] <Pygi> cant: yes, just a sec pls, ok?
[08:11] <cantspeakslowly> mwe: how about login info (/etc/passwd) that should be shared ?
[08:11] <mwe> gorski: yes
[08:11] <elvin> thanks
[08:11] <jordi_> soundray i tried both. once i format it myself with fdisk on gentoo, and i tried to let kubuntu format it
[08:11] <mwe> gorski: you don't need to confuse socket issues into that
[08:11] <IAmAI> Could anyone help me install ndiswrapper?
[08:12] <graft> kkathman: what kernel do you have installed anyway?
[08:12] <gorski> i have problem: #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)
[08:12] <graft> seems really weird that this module would be loading...
[08:12] <ITSa341> elvin  look here also http://directory.fsf.org/
[08:12] <mwe> cantspeakslowly: I don't remember how to do that properly
[08:13] <Pygi> cant: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/NIS-HOWTO/index.html
[08:13] <gk1980> Hey, does anyone here have experience with FreeNX on ubuntu?
[08:13] <kitty_> can somebody help me...i have absolutly no Audio playback.. i think ive got all the codecs i need but no sound comes from the speakers, ive tried all my audio ports so it must be a software problem.
[08:13] <ompaul> ?ama? whatever you have around your name I can't read
[08:13] <_jason> ubotu, tell elvin about repos
[08:13] <jordi_> soundray any idea?
[08:13] <mwe> cantspeakslowly: you're obviously need to centralize the login somehow
[08:13] <soundray> jordi_, not sure...
[08:13] <toggleswitch> elvin: see the ubuntu help  icon on your top bar. Go for the ubuntu starter guide. Lots of stuff there.
[08:13] <Pygi> mwe: well NIS is used for that....
[08:13] <_jason> gk1980, probably a lot of people, do you have a particular question?
[08:13] <soundray> jordi_, at what stage do you get the error?
[08:14] <Pygi> cantspeakslowly:
[08:14] <Pygi> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/NIS-HOWTO/index.html
[08:14] <jordi_> soundray at the beginning, "formating the partition"
[08:14] <ompaul> IAmAI, ahh it was the letter I heh the ndiswrapper page is very specific about what to do to get it working
[08:14] <Storkme> hmm, i can't get any sound on my pc
[08:14] <kitty_> can somebody help me...i have absolutly no Audio playback.. i think ive got all the codecs i need but no sound comes from the speakers, ive tried all my audio ports so it must be a software problem.
[08:14] <cantspeakslowly> thx Pygi, mwe
[08:14] <CarinArr> Storkme, ouch.. heh.. did it use to work but doesn't anymore?;)
[08:14] <IAmAI> ompaul: This one? http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation
[08:15] <ompaul> IAmAI, no
[08:15] <Pygi> cantspeakslowly: yw
[08:15] <Storkme> CarinArr, i think it works in the game, let me test
[08:15] <ompaul> !tell IAmAI about ndiswrapper
[08:15] <gk1980> _jason, I use freeNX client from a WindowsXP box to a xubuntu box running latest FreeNX server. Is there anyway to control the size of the actual desktop size? Changing the size of the screen in the client (even to full-screen) doesn't seem to help and I'm stuck with a small desktop with lots of black area surrounding it.
[08:15] <ompaul> IAmAI, I got the bot to send you a msg it is the "ubuntu" way
[08:15] <soundray> jordi_, it doesn't really make sense to me. Sorry.
[08:15] <IAmAI> ompaul: Thanks. I'll have a look at that.
[08:16] <ompaul> IAmAI, they should be the same but I know the ubuntu page works for lots of people
[08:16] <jordi_> ok thanks
[08:16] <knewt> no-one has any ideas to help me?
[08:16] <bsn_ua> where can i find gtk-config for download????
[08:16] <soundray> jordi_, small hint: ompaul may be your man...
[08:16] <Storkme> CarinArr, nothing has sound - XMMS tells me to check that "MY soundcard is configured properly, there are no audio devices blocking the output", etc
[08:16] <yggdrasil_> i think my linux got microsft in it
[08:16] <ompaul> soundray, whaaaaa
[08:16] <kitty_>  can somebody help me...i have absolutly no Audio playback.. i think ive got all the codecs i need but no sound comes from the speakers, ive tried all my audio ports so it must be a software problem.
[08:16] <g3ff> hi
[08:16] <ompaul> soundray, I see - okay
[08:16] <CarinArr> Storkme, what soundcard do you have?
[08:16] <thegladiator> 85 seconds is my boot time , whats yours ?
[08:17] <soundray> Sorry ompaul, I know you're busy already.
[08:17] <thegladiator> isnt 85 seconds too long for an OS ?
[08:17] <bsn_ua> where can i find gtk-config for download????
[08:17] <Storkme> CarinArr, a97 realtek audoi built into my mobo
[08:17] <Storkme> CarinArr, but it worked fine a few minutes ago
[08:17] <Pygi> seveas: tried that flashy thingy?
[08:17] <ompaul> soundray, s/he quit
[08:17] <CarinArr> ack.. what have you changed in the last few minutes?
[08:17] <gnomefreak> Pygi, i sent it i have to go for now ill be back though
[08:17] <_jason> gk1980, I haven't had that problem so i am just guessing here, but can you change the resolution on the ubuntu box?
[08:18] <Seveas> Pygi, gnash you mean?
[08:18] <Pygi> seveas: yes
[08:18] <Pygi> freaky: k, thanks
[08:18] <thegladiator> whats the boot time you guys get ?
[08:18] <kitty_>  please can somebody help me...i have absolutly no Audio playback.. i think ive got all the codecs i need but no sound comes from the speakers, ive tried all my audio ports so it must be a software problem.
[08:18] <Seveas> Pygi, not yet, I'm working at 10 (yes, 10) things simultaneously now
[08:18] <CarinArr> Storkme, just to rule it out.. can you start alsamixer and make sure you haven't managed to mute it somehow?
[08:18] <Pygi> Seveas: well, as I said, me too :)
[08:18] <kkathman> graft  one answer here is to do an rmmod --force ipv6   but I really hate doing forces :)
[08:18] <soundray> ompaul, too bad for h{im|er}
[08:18] <CarinArr> i've muted mine before unknowingly.. (still haven't managed to figure out what i do to mute it)
[08:18] <Storkme> CarinArr, it's not muted :)
[08:18] <Pygi> Seveas: k, just go work then.... I have to as well :P
[08:18] <ompaul> soundray, :)
[08:18] <gk1980> _jason, I can, however its a laptop and I do want to use it without FreeNX. Changing the resolution back and forth doesn't seem to way to go. Anyhow, using X over XDMCP works fine. Full screen and all.
[08:19] <ompaul> thegladiator, what do you mean?
[08:19] <thegladiator> ompaul, boot time , the time taken to boot into ubuntu
[08:19] <CarinArr> Storkme, and you haven't changed anything knowingly since the sound was last working?
[08:19] <kitty_> please can somebody help me...i have absolutly no Audio playback.. i think ive got all the codecs i need but no sound comes from the speakers, ive tried all my audio ports so it must be a software problem.
[08:19] <thegladiator> mine is 85 seconds , wondering if its a good speed
[08:19] <globe> How do I set the active partition on my hard drive manually?
[08:20] <CarinArr> ack.. bbias
[08:20] <Blippe> 15-20 seconds thegladiator
[08:20] <thegladiator> really BLIPE ?
[08:20] <soundray> thegladiator, that is a reasonable time.
[08:20] <ompaul> thegladiator, that depends on hardware, if a partition needs to be fscked, so I just let it happen and grab a glass of water between when I turn it on an sit down
[08:20] <thegladiator> Blippe, you have an amazing speed then
[08:21] <Blippe> it's tweaked...
[08:21] <soundray> Blippe, that's with a bit of fine-tuning isn't it.
[08:21] <soundray> Blippe, LinuxBIOS?
[08:21] <thegladiator> hmm...like whats the tweak  ? diabiling few many things ?
[08:22] <Storkme> CarinArr, nope :\
[08:22] <thegladiator> i'd love to get it down to 30-40 seconds . I have an AMD Sempron 2400 , but 256 RAM only . Will 512 RAM make any considerable difference ?
[08:22] <Storkme> CarinArr, is it just a random problem that i could solve with ctrl+alt+backspace?
[08:22] <ITSa341> I have a p4 running at 4.5ghz and can't boot in 20 seconds with a GB ram.
[08:22] <soundray> thegladiator, not on boot.
[08:22] <Storkme> ITSa341, intels suck ;)
[08:23] <thegladiator> aaah. so it sems mine is a bit slow
[08:23] <Blippe> I don't know, I didn't do it...
[08:23] <federica> hi
[08:23] <ompaul> I used to have a 486 33dx boot FreeBSD in 40 seconds and at 1:05 the X login screen was there - now that was hacked
[08:23] <soundray> thegladiator, do you measure from power up or from grub loading the kernel?
[08:23] <thegladiator> power up . after the grub is loaded
[08:23] <Blippe> actually i wouldn't call it tweaked, i would call it not working
[08:23] <thegladiator> when the ubuntu splash comes
[08:24] <thegladiator> is there any tweak guides available ?
[08:24] <soundray> All this booting cr*p would be unnecessary if there was a decent static RAM technology.
[08:24] <thegladiator> soundray, :)
[08:24] <thegladiator> soundray, whats your time ?
[08:25] <s_spiff{asleep}> good night people
[08:25] <s_spiff{asleep}> hey thegladiator
[08:25] <thegladiator> eevn mobile OS takes around 5 seconds to load
[08:25] <ITSa341> Storkme   I agree my Athlon 3000+ outperforms my P4 3.0 overclocked to 4.5ghz at -40f. The athlon is stock speeds.
[08:25] <soundray> thegladiator, uptime: 40 days... can't remember :)
[08:25] <s_spiff{asleep}> what mobile os?
[08:25] <thegladiator> s_spiff{asleep}, hey :) sleep well :)
[08:25] <s_spiff{asleep}> hehe
[08:25] <s_spiff{asleep}> not sleeping re..
[08:25] <thegladiator> mobile OS ...yaar , in the normal mobiles we have OS
[08:25] <soundray> thegladiator, my laptop takes about 2 minutes, though.
[08:25] <globe> thegladiator, you have to remember that everything that you disable in order to boot faster makes you loose a feature....windows achives a good boot time by doing as little as possible before setting up the GUI
[08:25] <s_spiff{asleep}> have to install azuerus
[08:25] <pirx> is it only for me that it doesnt work to jump between words in the adress bar in firefox with ctrl-arrow?
[08:26] <s_spiff{asleep}> and the download some 'stuff'
[08:26] <thegladiator> he he :)
[08:26] <thegladiator> good
[08:26] <gk1980> Does anyone know when there will be an official FireFox 1.5 package for ubuntu?
[08:26] <elvin> Hey again, are there a way to see NTFS files in ubuntu?
[08:26] <soundray> gk1980, when dapper is out.
[08:26] <thegladiator> ok , so is there somewhere I can remove unwanted things during boot ?
[08:26] <soundray> !firefox1.5
[08:26] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:26] <thegladiator> elvin, yes
[08:26] <ITSa341> bbiab
[08:26] <thegladiator> !ntfs
[08:26] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[08:26] <s_spiff{asleep}> gk1980, i think i read somewhere there isn't gonna be any package for FF now on
[08:26] <s_spiff{asleep}> but you should read abt it on wiki
[08:26] <thegladiator> elvin, read what ubotu says ^
[08:27] <elvin> thanks
[08:27] <gk1980> ok, thanks...
[08:27] <s_spiff{asleep}> np
[08:27] <brian_> can someone please help me with dual monitors?
[08:27] <brian_> ive bene trying for a while now and i cant find ANY help
[08:27] <thegladiator> so is there something in GUI that can help me configure this bootin ? lik I can remove unwanted things
[08:27] <brian_> all the docs are outdated, irrelevant, or just plain wrong
[08:27] <thegladiator> s_spiff{asleep}, what time you sleep ?
[08:27] <s_spiff{asleep}> brian_, i think there is a thread on the forums abt it
[08:27] <s_spiff{asleep}> check it out
[08:28] <brian_> got a link? because i was searching the forums last nite and found nothing helpful
[08:28] <s_spiff{asleep}> no specific time man...now exams commin up..so will sleep later
[08:28] <thegladiator> s_spiff{asleep}, ah which class ?:) or semester ?
[08:28] <brian_> i dont need an xorg.conf i need someone that can actually explain to me how this stuff works
[08:28] <Blippe> brian_ look for xinerama and X.org !!!
[08:28] <s_spiff{asleep}> brian_, nopes, sorry, i didn't do any reading on it
[08:28] <s_spiff{asleep}> semester 4..
[08:28] <newdle> Err.
[08:28] <s_spiff{asleep}> engg.
[08:28] <s_spiff{asleep}> B.Tech actually
[08:28] <brian_> Blippe: i have been....for days
[08:28] <thegladiator> kool! comp sci ?
[08:28] <newdle> im logged into root and i just typed make, it says command not found.
[08:28] <thegladiator> me too b.tech
[08:28] <s_spiff{asleep}> no Chemistry
[08:29] <newdle> does ubuntu not come default with compiling stuff?
[08:29] <thegladiator> electronix kl...iit ?
[08:29] <brian_> im sitting here with two displays showing the same thing(the left display is missing a cursor), but i cant get anything else to work
[08:29] <thegladiator> iit mum ?
[08:29] <s_spiff{asleep}> Dyes and Intermediates at UDCT
[08:29] <andrewd> http://www.socialstudiesforkids.com/articles/ushistory/13massachusetts.htm
[08:29] <thegladiator> kl
[08:29] <s_spiff{asleep}> no man..UDCT
[08:29] <brian_> anyone know a channel where people would be knowledgeable about dual displays and Xinerama?
[08:29] <s_spiff{asleep}> iit sucks at chem..:P
[08:29] <ompaul> newdle, no do this >>sudo apt-get install build-essential<< it will install all you want
[08:29] <thegladiator> hehe :o sure
[08:29] <s_spiff{asleep}> what abt u thegladiator ?
[08:29] <newdle> awesome, thanks paul.
[08:29] <ompaul> np
[08:30] <thegladiator> myself did tronix engg from cochin univ of sci tech :p
[08:30] <s_spiff{asleep}> neat
[08:30] <s_spiff{asleep}> and u're working now?
[08:30] <ompaul> s_spiff{asleep}, please take the conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic this is supposed to be for help :)
[08:30] <s_spiff{asleep}> sorry ompaul .
[08:30] <s_spiff{asleep}> will do that.
[08:30] <brian_> http://www.brianwitha.be/xorg.conf can i PLEASE have some help
[08:30] <thegladiator> hey yes sorry :)
[08:30] <Blippe> brian_ graphics-card?
[08:30] <brian_> 6800 dual-head
[08:30] <trappist> brian_: love the domain
[08:30] <s_spiff{asleep}> some other time thegladiator
[08:31] <brian_> thx
[08:31] <thegladiator> ompaul, so ...how can I remoe unwanted things from boot?
[08:31] <s_spiff{asleep}> have to finish this crap..and sleep!
[08:31] <thegladiator> later s_spiff{asleep}
[08:31] <Blippe> 6800?
[08:31] <s_spiff{asleep}> cya
[08:31] <thegladiator> ciao
[08:31] <brian_> nvidia geforce
[08:31] <newdle> I think this is going to take me a while to get used to, the whole linux thing, but i think it will be easier to do what i want to do.
[08:31] <newdle> mmm, home automation.
[08:31] <Blippe> ah
[08:31] <tech9iner> alas... not 2 be 'korn'fused with 'a l s a' .. downloading kubuntu iso and reinstalling.. hoping sound will be found upon complete ARG! reinstallation vs kubuntu upgraded unbuntu 5.0.4 ;[..
[08:31] <thegladiator> newdle, sure . once your get it done , you'll feel a lot better . thats how linux workds
[08:31] <Blippe> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[08:31] <brian_> with that xorg.conf i have a cloned display(minus cursor on one) but i want to be able to have two seperate screens
[08:31] <newdle> yeah
[08:31] <brian_> Blippe: already been there
[08:31] <ompaul> thegladiator, start by installing bum and be careful what you do :-)
[08:31] <brian_> that info is old
[08:32] <newdle> just gotta figure out why mysql is crapping out, phpgroupware is wierd to install.
[08:32] <thegladiator> yes! bum ok
[08:32] <Blippe> well, it does work!
[08:32] <brian_> not for me..
[08:32] <thegladiator> dont worry I have deleted command.com once in my very OLD DOS systems . so I am used to botching up real hard
[08:32] <Blippe> well, if you got it running, it is probably the serverlayout part that needs tweaking!
[08:33] <globe> thegladiator :-)
[08:33] <ompaul> thegladiator, make sure you have a live cd before you go breaking things
[08:33] <ompaul> and an install one
[08:33] <brian_> how do i make it have two screens and not a cloned one
[08:33] <thegladiator> yes I do . yep
[08:33] <brian_> i have an xorg.conf where i get two distinct gnome desktops, but i cant mouse to the second screen, its like a second pc i cant touch almost
[08:34] <brian_> its really frustrating, why is it soooo hard to setup dual display under linux?
[08:34] <thegladiator> brian_, hold your pateience , you will get help :)
[08:34] <Blippe> paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file in the "channel"/"private message" i sent you!
[08:34] <brian_> not seeing a pm
[08:34] <ompaul> Blippe, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:34] <ompaul> brian_, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:34] <brian_> for what?
[08:35] <brian_> i already uploaded my xorg.conf
[08:35] <ompaul> ahh
[08:35] <Blippe> ompaul, i didn't tell him to paste it in the channel!
[08:35] <brian_> http://www.brianwitha.be/xorg.conf
[08:35] <trappist> brian_: I have a dual display with separate instances of kde on each screen, but I set it up with ati's fglrxconfig which pretty much did it for me
[08:35] <brian_> im using nvidia see
[08:35] <trappist> brian_: I know nvidia recently released something similar
[08:35] <ompaul> Blippe, I know he said did not see pm :)
[08:35] <tech9iner> brian_: consider linux configs your sacrifice for giving up all those vundebar trojans n spy/malwares n hourly security patches on windBLOWz guv! wink wink
[08:36] <brian_> yeah....ok, whatever
[08:36] <trappist> brian_: if you install the latest driver package from nvidia.com, you'll have a 'nvidia-xconfig' which may simplify things for you
[08:36] <brian_> ok, awesome ill try that
[08:37] <IAmAI> ompaul: Hey, I just found some Linux drivers for my card, when I went looking for Windows ones :P
[08:37] <brian_> brevity is acceptable but your comment lacked substance
[08:37] <ompaul> IAmAI, enjoy
[08:37] <trappist> tech9iner: well, your comment pretty much amounted to "suck it up, whiner"
[08:37] <IAmAI> ompaul: Hopes it's easier :P
[08:38] <brian_> anyway im gonna go try these nvidia drivers and see what i can find, appreciate the help guys ill pry be back :x
[08:38] <tech9iner> trappist: wb chum.. my bad then.. even with the winks at da end eh..
[08:38] <trappist> tech9iner: sometimes not even a smiley can alter the substance of a comment ;)
[08:38] <Sionide> anyone good with hard drives??
[08:38] <Blippe> dammit, i just wiped out my xorg.conf instead...
[08:39] <trappist> Sionide: I can spin them on my finger for an hour at a time
[08:39] <tech9iner> agreed trappist .. point noted.. hence the mea culpas where deemed guv
[08:39] <Sionide> trappist, :D cool
[08:39] <soundray> Is there a proven strategy to track down signal 11 errors?
[08:39] <Blippe> sionide, yeah, they love me until i put them into peices
[08:39] <narles> anyone know if you can add and take off songs from an ipod using rhythmbox... or any program in general?
[08:39] <trappist> soundray: I usually start with strace
[08:39] <tech9iner> given up fwiw trappist on fixing sound.. bout 7 mins from kubuntu iso down.. fresh install seems apropos this juncture mate
[08:39] <Sionide> i just bought a new hard drive, formatted it as ext3, now i can't paste files to it in nautilus - but i can do touch foobar, then pico foobar and edit it without a problem - any ideas why nautilus can't write to it?
[08:40] <trappist> tech9iner: it's pretty much the same distro, but you might get lucky.  your sound card is definitely supposed to work.
[08:40] <soundray> trappist, are signal 11s usually programming errors?
[08:41] <trappist> soundray: erm, if by programming errors you mean the programmer failed to foresee some obscure condition found on your machine, yes.  but I wouldn't call that a programming error.
[08:41] <tech9iner> by the by me new 'buntuMates'.. any CAD/CAM/3d drafters hang round here please?.. as in CAD apps on linux for custruction industry applications please?..
[08:41] <conflikt> could someone help me when i try to start gAIM  i get this gaim: error while loading shared libraries: libdbus-glib-1.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:42] <Blippe> Sionide, check owner on the dirs on the drive...
[08:42] <xored> !tell xored package
[08:42] <soundray> trappist, so I should go and find a machine to run on that conforms better with the programmer's ideas?
[08:42] <Sionide> ah
[08:42] <trappist> conflikt: try sudo apt-get install libdbus-glib-1-1
[08:42] <Sionide> Blippe, lost+found is owned by root :s
[08:42] <Sionide> can i change that?
[08:42] <trappist> soundray: we don't know what the problem is yet.
[08:42] <Storkme> how on ubuntu can i see how much disk space i have left?
[08:42] <Storkme> from the command line
[08:42] <soundray> trappist, neither do I...
[08:42] <trappist> Storkme: df -h
[08:42] <Knowerrors> Is there a setting to make x.org remember monitor settings?  If I turn on my compute with the monitor off, then turn it on later, Im greeted by only one resolution and refresh rate
[08:42] <sTo0z> Does anyone know an ubuntu command to flush routes?
[08:43] <conflikt> cant find the package
[08:43] <xored> sorry guys, but where to get the current packages ? i want to update udev to a current version
[08:43] <tech9iner> or.. likewise.. any mates here stumbled cross any active CAD / drafting / architecture irc channels ?..
[08:43] <narles> anyone know if you can add and take off songs from an ipod using rhythmbox... or any program in general?
[08:43] <Storkme> wierd
[08:43] <Kremonte> !tell narles about ipod
[08:43] <Storkme> can anyone think of a reason that "scp" would give me "- stalled -" and stop?
[08:43] <Blippe> brian_ start with removing the leftof "Screen 1"
[08:43] <soundray> trappist, I'll talk to the developers of the prog I'm using. It's not really a Ubuntu support issue. Thanks for your hints.
[08:44] <sTo0z> as far as i can tell you can't save the routes so i need to like flush them so i can repopulate with what i want?
[08:44] <trappist> conflikt: what version of ubuntu, and where'd you get gaim?
[08:44] <trappist> Storkme: lost connectivity
[08:45] <Storkme> oh, right
[08:45] <Storkme> that's bad - router problems
[08:45] <conflikt> trappist: 2.0 in a .deb ubuntu 5.04
[08:45] <tech9iner> thanks for the warm hands trappist n mwe ;] ] .. ciao 4 now chums..
[08:45] <tech9iner> tanx all for 'bean' here mateyzzzz.. ;] ] 
[08:45] <trappist> conflikt: sounds like the .deb you got was for breezy (or at least would work on breezy)
[08:46] <thefamousnomo> hello people, question re: usb drive mounting...
[08:46] <Storkme> thaks
[08:46] <Storkme> thanks*
[08:46] <iantec> how do i update my firefox to 1.5?
[08:46] <Prozac> How can i setup identd, with a user defined reply ?
[08:46] <trappist> !tell iantec about firefox15
[08:46] <paladinew> ok guys, I need to know how to make a SECURE/ENCRYPTED remote desktop connection from one ubuntu system to another
[08:46] <mwe> !tell iantec about ff1.5
[08:46] <trappist> Prozac: I think that's what pidentd is for
[08:46] <robbster> lo all. I've just installed breezy on my old compaq presario 700. You guys have done a REALLY great job. Everything (so far) has 'just work'ed :) Thanks!
[08:46] <trappist> paladinew: look into freenx
[08:46] <conflikt> trappist: might have been but even when i get the one from the synaptic manager it still gives same error
[08:46] <iantec> thanks
[08:47] <Prozac> yeah ive installed pidentd but i cant figure out how i set the reply
[08:47] <thegladiator> is it okay if I remove GDM ( using boot up manager)  when i am using #kubuntu-dektop package on ubuntu ?
[08:47] <trappist> conflikt: once you install a .deb it appears in synaptic.  it's probably the same package.
[08:47] <thefamousnomo> should i cuddle up a bit before throeing out the questions...?
[08:47] <robbster> !tell robbster about ff1.5
[08:47] <trappist> conflikt: uninstall, grab the .deb for hoary, and install that.
[08:47] <trappist> thefamousnomo: nope
[08:47] <soundray> thegladiator, yes, but make sure you have a replacement (kdm probably).
[08:47] <paladinew> trappist: know where I can find some good info on it ?
[08:48] <thegladiator> thank you . yes it is there
[08:48] <thefamousnomo> @trappist: sound man
[08:48] <trappist> paladinew: google knows all
[08:48] <thefamousnomo> having probs finding anything on this
[08:48] <thefamousnomo> have a 256mb flash drive, mounts off the bat...
[08:48] <mwe> paladinew: freenx.berlios.de
[08:48] <iantec> are there many people here using kde?
[08:48] <thegladiator> and no printer I have , so I can remove HP Linux printing and Imagins system ? also PPP , since I dont use a telephone modem , I use cable modem
[08:48] <thefamousnomo> also a 1gb flash drive, same make, cannot get it to mount...
[08:49] <trappist> iantec: I use kde, but most kde users are in #kubuntu
[08:49] <mwe> iantec: most are in #kubuntu I recon
[08:49] <thegladiator> iantec, there are many actually
[08:49] <trappist> thefamousnomo: any interesting output in dmesg when you insert it?
[08:49] <soundray> thegladiator, don't remove ppp. It doesn't take up too much space, and may come in handy.
[08:49] <thegladiator> yep
[08:49] <thefamousnomo> sorry man, not up on irc ettiquette (or spelling there of!!)
[08:49] <iantec> sorry im new to linux...how do i connect to another channel ?
[08:49] <thegladiator> hplip can be removed yes?
[08:50] <thefamousnomo> hold on my friend...
[08:50] <conflikt> trappist: i fixed but i have to start with sudo ?
[08:50] <thegladiator> iantec, /join #<channel name>
[08:50] <Blippe> iantec "/j #kubuntu"
[08:50] <dannym_> hi
[08:50] <thegladiator> thisn is ubuntu help so stick to ubuntu topics
[08:50] <trappist> conflikt: sorry, I forgot what your problem is.  I hope you're not the gaim guy.
[08:50] <Josh43> quick q; what is the commandline for the gnome system manager?
[08:50] <Blippe> hi
[08:50] <mwe> what's a teql device?
[08:50] <claudiu> hello, i have a problem installing gstreamer - it is freezing
[08:50] <mwe> ifconfig shows teql1
[08:50] <thefamousnomo> not sure what you mean man, to expand, i am new to ubuntu...
[08:50] <iantec> thnx!! man its really amuzing how innocent you can get when you first try linux:)
[08:50] <mwe> and I have no idea what it is
[08:50] <thegladiator> soundray, if there is no printer , I can safwely remove HP Linux prininting and Image system ? or is it something else ?
[08:50] <conflikt> trappist: that would be me
[08:51] <thefamousnomo> and loving it muchly, considering using as my main os, started as a test you see...
[08:51] <soundray> thegladiator, I think you can.
[08:51] <trappist> thefamousnomo: insert device; run 'dmesg' in a console; look at the last half-dozen or so lines
[08:51] <trappist> conflikt: please don't run gaim as root
[08:51] <thefamousnomo> anyway, all i see is drive unable to mount message
[08:51] <iantec> well....just a thought though....since i really dont know anything about linux would it be better if i try using xandros first before i go ubuntu? because i read from many reviews that xandros is for the total newbie like me
[08:51] <thefamousnomo> will do man!
[08:52] <thegladiator> does anyone know what pupose does HP Linux printing and imaging process does ? is it necessary to have it while booting if you dont have a  printer ? :)
[08:52] <Josh43> iantec, xandros sucks
[08:52] <iantec> lol
[08:52] <trappist> iantec: ubuntu is an excellent newbie distro
[08:52] <trappist> Josh43: don't distro-bash please
[08:52] <mwe> iantec: ubuntu is great for n00bs, I second that
[08:52] <thegladiator> iantec, yes it will be a good idea
[08:52] <thegladiator> i second that XANDROS can be tried before you make a shift to ubuntu .
[08:52] <Josh43> iantec, It /used/ to be a good newbie distro, but that was before ubuntu existed.. ubuntu has been an awesome newbie distro for like 180 months
[08:52] <thegladiator> but make sure you dont get stuck :)
[08:53] <trappist> Josh43: 15 years, eh?
[08:53] <Josh43> Ahem.. 18 months
[08:53] <Josh43> :P
[08:53] <Prozac> does anybody know how to set the user defined reply with pidentd?
[08:53] <claudiu> hello, i have a problem installing gstreamer - it is freezing
[08:53] <thegladiator> ubuntu has certain defects like mp3 support etc which could be preplexing for a nwebie , i myself felt it . so Xandros wouldnt be bad , ofcourse it has to have these features
[08:53] <thegladiator> just IMHO
[08:54] <lowman62> warm it up?
[08:54] <Josh43> anyone know what the commandline is for the gnome system manager?
[08:54] <thegladiator> gnome-system-manager ?
[08:54] <iantec> well im a real fresh linux user....i think i have the savvy for windows....but since i "think" i know it too well and read so many things about linux i think it is the right os for me...but i find it hard to learn even if i am reading a LOT of things about it...really confusing ....
[08:54] <Josh43> thegladiator, That's what the auto-script is for
[08:54] <thegladiator> probably ?
[08:54] <trappist> Prozac: sorry I meant oidentd
[08:54] <soundray> thegladiator, the defect is in the MP3 licensing though, not in Ubuntu.
[08:54] <Prozac> oh
[08:54] <Prozac> ill try to google that then :)
[08:54] <mwe> soundray: yeah :)
[08:54] <thegladiator> soundray, yes agree i shud have said "defect" :)
[08:55] <Josh43> gnome-system-monitor ; perfect - your hint and tab-completion, thanks :)
[08:55] <thegladiator> welcome :)
[08:55] <claudiu> "Setting up gstreamer0.8-vorbis" takes forever
[08:55] <Blippe> iantec, just install ubuntu, and screw around with it, it is the best way to learn!
[08:55] <claudiu> could anyone help me please ?
[08:55] <thegladiator> !anyone
[08:55] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[08:56] <soundray> thegladiator, he has asked his question.
[08:56] <Blippe> claudiu, define "forever"...
[08:56] <eSPete> how do i boot the vol in general?
[08:56] <iantec> yep im using it now....jsut isntalled the kde desktop.:) i find it more friendly than the gnome...well just an opinion
[08:56] <mwe> man, performanc or ssh X forwarding sucks
[08:56] <Josh43> mwe, Try nxserver
[08:56] <trappist> mwe: it doesn't have to
[08:56] <mwe> trappist: but it does here though
[08:57] <brian_> ok, need help again.........I cannot get the nvidia driver to install, the script tells me that i have nvidiafb enabled for my kernel......I've removed all nvidia kernel and glx stuff but im still getting this error, how do i disable this? Do i HAVE to recompile my kernel or can i apt-get one without this nvidiafb business?
[08:57] <trappist> mwe: try with -c blowfish
[08:57] <Josh43> mwe, Instructions are in the forums, and the benefit is that it complresses the x-session before sending it.. I was pleasantly surprised
[08:57] <mwe> trappist: I'll try it, thanks for the tip
[08:57] <claudiu> "Setting up gstreamer0.8-vorbis" takes forever like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6908
[08:57] <trappist> mwe: blowfish is plenty secure and much faster than the default
[08:57] <claudiu> Blippe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6908
[08:57] <mwe> trappist: ok
[08:58] <thegladiator> let me check if the boot speed has increasde brb
[08:58] <student> how do I get root access and make the user a regular user?
[08:58] <iantec> anyways.... is there anyone here folding?
[08:58] <paladinew> how do I edit my /etc/apt/sources.list?  it only allows me read access
[08:58] <trappist> student: huh?
[08:58] <mwe> iantec: use sudo
[08:58] <claudiu> Blippe: i am using kde and wanted to install gstreamer, maybe i shouldn't
[08:58] <brian_> How do i get a kernel without nvidiafb support?
[08:58] <mwe> !tell iantec about rootsudo
[08:58] <Josh43> iantec, commandline: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:58] <trappist> paladinew: sudo <editor> /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:59] <student> trappist:  I have no access to root account.  I want to get access to the root account, and make it so that the regular user cannot behave like an administrator.
[08:59] <Blippe> claudio, i used gstreamer on kde...
[08:59] <mwe> student: use sudo -i when you need a root prompt
[08:59] <trappist> student: that's accomplised via sudo - sudo <command> to execute just that command as root
[08:59] <trappist> *accomplished
[08:59] <soundray> student, glad you got this far. Set up an additional user if you need a non-privileged one.
[08:59] <thefamousnomo_> sorry man, lost it there. demsg not found!!
[08:59] <claudiu> Blippe: what is the use of gstreamer on kde really ?
[08:59] <mwe> student: regular users don't have root access
[08:59] <brian_> dmesg, not demsg
[09:00] <iantec> josh43 what wiull that command do? i typed it in the terminal all it did was to produce another line (empty)
[09:00] <mwe> student: only users in the admin group can use sudo by default
[09:00] <Blippe> claudio, i really don't know!
[09:00] <student> mwe:  oh, admin group huh?
[09:00] <mwe> student: yeah
[09:00] <dannym_> hola!
[09:00] <jorgeu> hi, i have problems installing nvidia drivers. Can anyone help?
[09:00] <trappist> student: sudo visudo to see the current sudo config
[09:00] <brian_> jorgeu: join the club man
[09:00] <dannym_> lol
[09:00] <mwe> student: users who a member of the admin group
[09:00] <brian_> i have the same problem
[09:01] <jorgeu> can't find the precompiled kernel interface
[09:01] <soundray> brian_, jorgeu, have you RTFM?
[09:01] <soundray> !nvidia
[09:01] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[09:01] <thefamousnomo_> @trappist: bash: demsg: command not found
[09:01] <jorgeu> i have installed the kernel headers but no progress
[09:01] <brian_> i cant, because i cant get into X now
[09:01] <brian_> and lynx wont load the nvidia manual proper
[09:01] <mwe> student: setting the root password defeats basic ubuntu security policy
[09:01] <student> oops I should have added a new admin user before disabling the current one
[09:01] <student> mwe: am I screwed?
[09:01] <mwe> student: why?
[09:02] <Blippe> claudiu why don't you apt-get it?
[09:02] <brian_> anyway, I was just asking how i get a kernel without nvidiafb
[09:02] <brian_> because the nvidia driver installer requires it
[09:02] <brian_> its failing now
[09:02] <brian_> i apt-get removed all nvidia stuff, glx and the kernel thing
[09:02] <student> mwe: I removed my user account from the admin group, before adding a new one that belongs to the admin group
[09:02] <brian_> but its still giving me the same error
[09:02] <mwe> student: you can work around it
[09:02] <iantec> anyways...i read that i user account is needed for paly and for work.... what if i started out with a native user account... and now i have a new one for my daily task...how do i get my bookmarks from that other user account that i was using before
[09:02] <student> mwe: howso?
[09:02] <mwe> student: using grub?
[09:03] <student> yes I am
[09:03] <student> this is fresh install of ubuntu
[09:03] <paladinew> I keep getting the folowing error when trying to install FreeNX "   Couldn't stat source package list http://kanotix.com ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kanotix.com_files_debian_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:03] <paladinew> "
[09:03] <mwe> student: breezy?
[09:03] <student> mwe: yes
[09:03] <student> mwe: breezy is latest, yes?
[09:03] <thefamousnomo_> hey guys, probs mounting 1gb flash when 256mb of same model mounts off the bat. any ideas????
[09:03] <misiuk> lowman62: are you there?
[09:03] <mwe> student: hilight the entry you usually boot. then press "e" to edit it
[09:04] <monzie> can someone please suggest a cool-looking desktop environment
[09:04] <student> mwe: alright, and then?
[09:04] <monzie> sorry, window manager
[09:04] <mwe> student: then "e" again. go the end of the line and type init=/bin/sh
[09:04] <trappist> thefamousnomo_: it's spelled dmesg
[09:04] <thefamousnomo_> im a twat!
[09:04] <student> mwe: got that, anything else?
[09:04] <mwe> student: that will boot you into a console only root prompt
[09:04] <soundray> monzie, Enlightenment. So cool you can't really use it seriously :)
[09:05] <student> mwe: oh and then just add the user back to admin group
[09:05] <mx-r> hi. could someone help?
[09:05] <mwe> student: then use gpasswd -a <username> admin
[09:05] <trappist> soundray: e17 even more so
[09:05] <student> mwe: thanks
[09:05] <moodog> evening all?
[09:05] <mx-r> just installed ubuntu... boot stops at Starting Hotplug
[09:05] <student> mwe: brb
[09:05] <paladinew> I keep getting the folowing error when trying to install FreeNX "   Couldn't stat source package list http://kanotix.com ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kanotix.com_files_debian_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:05] <claudiu> Blippe: i try apt-get something but it keeps complaining about some error, it says E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[09:05] <soundray> paladinew, are you on Ubuntu?
[09:06] <DRAGON> CIAO
[09:06] <the_eye> gcc-question: how do I get version 3.4.5? the ubuntu i have here has 4.0.1-3 .. i need 3.4.5 .. how do i apt-get old versions of programs? apt-get install gcc-3.4.5 doesn't work ..
[09:06] <paladinew> yes, 5.10
[09:06] <trappist> claudiu: it tells you exactly how to solve the problem man
[09:06] <Knowerrors> I have a problem with my monitor, if its turned off while booting, then turned back on, the resolution and refresh rate are terrible and can't be changed, is there a way to fix this besides always having monitor on?
[09:06] <claudiu> trappist: ok but dpkg hangs forever
[09:06] <claudiu> trappist: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6910
[09:06] <thefamousnomo_> @trappist: seems ok, but im a dos-to-windows fumbling idiot (see earlier spelling error!)
[09:07] <soundray> paladinew, can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org pls.
[09:07] <thefamousnomo_> unknown partition table...?
[09:07] <paladinew> soundray: sure, sec
[09:07] <AskHL> Good evening. I'm trying to get an ssh tunnel running, and it works. But I cannot start up X windows through it. Most of the applications say something along the lines of: "Can't open display". I have done this in Mandrake, but now I use ubuntu. Does anyone have a clue of what might be going on?
[09:07] <thefamousnomo_> message box says *given udi is not a mountable volume*
[09:08] <soundray> AskHL, you need to configure ssh to forward X. Possibly using -X option.
[09:08] <AskHL> Like ssh -X -somethingSomthing ?
[09:08] <thefamousnomo_> im guessing partition issue, though both run on my windows machines no worries. parition size issues...?
[09:08] <AskHL> (where somethingSomething is what I already wrote)
[09:08] <paladinew> soundray: pasted
[09:08] <soundray> AskHL, either that, or edit config files in /etc/ssh/
[09:09] <AskHL> soundray: it works perfectly! Thanks a lot!
[09:09] <the_eye> i found the "transition to gcc-4" page in the wiki .. still: how do I get old gcc installed?
[09:09] <claudiu> can ayone help me with dpkg > jpatrick: i use xine-lib in kaffeine for audio-video
[09:09] <trappist> thefamousnomo_: http://www.ubuntux.org/node/201
[09:09] <gorski> how to uninstall phpmyadmin?
[09:09] <claudiu> can ayone help me with dpkg >http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6913
[09:10] <mx-r> gorski - you cannot uninstall php my admin per se... you simply delete the directory
[09:10] <claudiu> pls help me with dpkg >http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6913
[09:10] <andrewd> http://encarta.msn.com/map_701514536/Massachusetts.html
[09:10] <akshay> i was doing #apt-get update & i get this error '44% [Connecting to in.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)] '
[09:11] <student> mwe:  did not work yet.
[09:11] <gorski> wich one
[09:11] <rayyyys> kernal options?
[09:11] <gorski> ?
[09:11] <rayyyys> brezzy
[09:11] <rayyyys> or horry spose
[09:11] <mwe> student: what happened?
[09:11] <thefamousnomo_> @trappist: thank you very much. i am finding terminology / user enviroment a bit difficult to get to grips with, but i WILL persevere. this is the first os ive ever been excited about! (*blush*)
[09:11] <student> mwe:  booted to grub.  highlighted default entry.  pressed 'e'.  pressed 'e' again.  typed in 'init=/bin/sh'.  then pressed 'b' to boot.  system just booted up like normal.
[09:11] <Eugman> Anyone here well acquainted with the MBR?
[09:11] <akshay> is there anyone who can help me i searched  google but the stuff was posted there was not workin
[09:12] <rayyyys> !nocache
[09:12] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, rayyyys
[09:12] <mwe> student: it's the kernel line you're supossed to edit
[09:12] <student> mwe: oh not the root line?
[09:12] <soundray> paladinew, still here?
[09:12] <rayyyys> !live ram
[09:12] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, rayyyys
[09:12] <rayyyys> :s
[09:12] <hkais> hello
[09:12] <soundray> paladinew, try replacing the last line in your sources.list with deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas all
[09:12] <student> mwe: kernel line is the second one I believe?
[09:12] <mwe> student: no
[09:13] <mwe> student: yes the second or third
[09:13] <student> mwe: do I make a space before typing in init=/bin/sh, or just type it in without making a space in front.
[09:13] <Maqs__> hi
[09:13] <paladinew> ok, sec
[09:13] <rayyyys> can anyone here tell me if theres a comon way to run live in ram?
[09:13] <mwe> student: the one that begins with the word kernel
[09:13] <hkais> has anyone experience with the ati propritary driver? i have problems with the clonemode for the second screen
[09:13] <andrewd> err... what the heck are you guys talking about...
[09:13] <mwe> student: space first
[09:13] <student> mwe: brb
[09:13] <soundray> paladinew, then 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install freenx'
[09:13] <gorski> how to restart apache2
[09:13] <cello_rasp> gnome forgets my network settings every time i reboot ubuntu.. help!
[09:14] <soundray> rayyyys, you mean like knoppix toram ?
[09:14] <rayyyys> spose
[09:15] <autosuggested> cello_rasp: what does your /etc/network/interfaces file look like?
[09:15] <hkais> gorski: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[09:15] <rayyyys> soundray: some live cd you can put enought in to ram that you can unmout and eject the cd
[09:15] <paladinew> soundray: GPG error: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[09:15] <rayyyys> soundray: thats all I want to do
[09:15] <monzie> how do i change the window manager in GNOME?
[09:15] <monzie> I am using Breezy
[09:15] <paladinew> soundray: got that when I was doing apt-get update
[09:15] <gorski> ok, how to solve this, please: #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)
[09:15] <mwe> gorski: it's the third time you ask within an hour
[09:15] <rayyyys> well and then mount other stuff
[09:16] <rayyyys> ofcoures
[09:16] <hkais> has anyone experience with the ati propritary driver? i have problems with the clonemode for the second screen?
[09:16] <gorski> yes, i didn't get the answer for mysql.
[09:16] <soundray> rayyyys, I don't think there is a "common way", but if they can do it with live CDs it should be possible to do it with a HD installation...
[09:16] <monzie> can anyone please tell me how i should get rid of metacity and install sawfish?
[09:16] <trappist> hkais: did you run fglrxconfig?
[09:16] <Prozac> any way to test what my comp will respond on identd request? like make a "fake" identd request? (useing oidentd)
[09:16] <soundray> paladinew, give me two min's pls.
[09:17] <cello_rasp> nooo
[09:17] <hkais> trappist: fglrxconfig?
[09:17] <monzie> help please!
[09:17] <rayyyys> soundray: well yeah if i installed it to harddrive that would do it but i want to use the live cd at someones elses house and swap cds while I at it
[09:17] <trappist> hkais: a script that ships with the ati drivers.  it's a wizard to build xorg.conf and it will handle your dual display.
[09:17] <_oP> hello all
[09:18] <bluesign> hi all, I am trying to fully migrate to linux, but I have a problem. I _have to_ use vs.net for my job. So I am planning to run vmware, can I boot existing windows partition under VMwave?
[09:18] <monzie> how can i use sawfish in GNOME? I am on Ubuntu Breezu
[09:18] <hkais> trappist: thx i will try it
[09:18] <cello_rasp> gnome never remembers my network settings, and i have to manually switch to the loaction config every time.. my /etc/network/interfaces > http://pastebin.com/499736
[09:18] <paladinew> ok
[09:18] <_oP> @bluesign why not install windows on hd leave some space and install ubuntu or what ever as dual boot?
[09:18] <rayyyys> bluesign: I wouldn't
[09:18] <trappist> Prozac: see /etc/oidentd.conf
[09:19] <bluesign> _oP: I don't wanna leave linux, ie: have to office apps etc
[09:19] <rayyyys> bluesign: go to there website they have heaps of warnings about doing that way
[09:19] <bluesign> rayyyys: why?
[09:20] <admin_> hi
[09:20] <admin_> i'm an italian boy, i have a problem....who can help me?
[09:20] <student> mwe: okay I got it to boot into the root console.  but the 'vi' command does not work.  what is the command to add user 'student' to the admin group?
[09:20] <mwe> I heard you should be able to make tvout work with ati more or less by just plugging the cable in an reboot. Is that correct?
[09:20] <bluesign> rayyyys: what can I do, other than dual boot?
[09:20] <mwe> student: gpasswd -a student admin
[09:20] <rayyyys> bluesign: it might have been in there forums but they do tell you if your not expereanced use a virtual drive thing
[09:20] <thefamousnomo_> @trappist: added line to /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:20] <thefamousnomo_> , tried to apt-get install pmount but getting errors! do i have to (hate myself) restart for changes to take effect?
[09:21] <rayyyys> bluesign: um
[09:21] <omer> Hello
[09:21] <student> mwe: thanks brb
[09:21] <admin_> WHO CAN HELP ME, PLEASE?
[09:21] <mwe> student: and you should never just edit the group/passwd file. use vipw/vigr
[09:21] <trappist> thefamousnomo_: you have to 'sudo apt-get update' for the changes to take effect
[09:21] <omer> I need hellp with kernel headers.
[09:21] <rayyyys> bluesign: im no expert but id say try ghosting it to a virtual drive thing
[09:21] <JulioH> buenas
[09:21] <_jason> ubotu, tell admin about ask
[09:21] <rayyyys> rayyyys: go to vmware help forums
[09:21] <bluesign> rayyyys: oh nice idea
[09:21] <mwe> omer: what kind of help do you need with those headers?
[09:22] <_oP> @mwe u need to change ur xorg.conf file under /etc/X11/xorg.conf but make a backup first ! ill post my config also its not allowed ill do wait
[09:22] <rayyyys> bluesign: :)
[09:22] <thefamousnomo_> i have just read this, i am a windoze loser man, i can believe it! restart.... doh!
[09:22] <_oP> ##Device0##
[09:22] <_oP> Section "Device"
[09:22] <_oP> 	Identifier	"CTR Radeon 9800 Pro"
[09:22] <_oP> 	Driver		"fglrx"
[09:22] <_oP> 	BusID		"PCI:2:0:0"
[09:22] <_oP> 	Screen 		0
[09:22] <_oP> 
[09:22] <_oP>         Option          "VideoOverlay"          "on"
[09:22] <_oP>         Option          "OpenGLOverlay"         "off"
[09:22] <_oP>         Option          "UseInternalAGPGART"    "no"
[09:22] <_jason> admin_, ubotu tell _oP about pastebin
[09:22] <mwe> _oP: press ctrl-c
[09:22] <_oP>         Option          "no_accel"              "no"
[09:22] <_oP>         Option          "no_dri"                "no"
[09:22] <_oP>         Option          "mtrr"                  "on"
[09:22] <rayyyys> bluesign, I think i may have remebmered people doing it  thay way (I think)
[09:22] <_oP> EndSection
[09:22] <mwe> _oP: youll get banned
[09:22] <_oP> ##Driver1##
[09:22] <kitty_> please can somebody help me...i have absolutly no Audio playback.. i think ive got all the codecs i need but no sound comes from the speakers, ive tried all my audio ports so it must be a software problem.
[09:23] <_oP> Section "Device"
[09:23] <_jason> ubotu tell _oP about pastebin
[09:23] <_oP> 	Identifier 	"TV Radeon 9800 Pro"
[09:23] <mwe> _oP: press ctrl-c
[09:23] <mwe> _oP: press ctrl-c
[09:23] <mwe> _oP: press ctrl-c
[09:23] <mwe> _oP: press ctrl-c
[09:23] <_oP> 	Driver 		"fglrx"
[09:23] <mlalkaka> does anyone know why mplayer depends on xmms in the ubuntu repositories? it doesn't make sense to me.
[09:23] <_oP> 	BusID 		"PCI:2:0:0"
[09:23] <_oP>   	Screen		1
[09:23] <soundray> paladinew, you should be able to install freenx nevertheless. It just means that you're placing some trust in Seveas.
[09:23] <_oP>         Option          "VideoOverlay"          "on"
[09:23] <_oP>         Option          "OpenGLOverlay"         "off"
[09:23] <_oP>         Option          "UseInternalAGPGART"    "no"
[09:23] <_oP>         Option          "no_accel"              "no"
[09:23] <mwe> _oP: hello STOP IT
[09:23] <_oP>         Option          "no_dri"                "no"
[09:23] <_oP>         Option          "mtrr"                  "on"
[09:23] <omer> I need modversions.h and irq_vectors.h I try to compile the kernel headers by make prepare-all but those file don't exite at my kernel version
[09:23] <mwe> _oP: youll get banned
[09:23] <_oP> EndSection
[09:23] <_oP> ##Monitor0##
[09:23] <_oP> Section "Monitor"
[09:23] <_oP> 	Identifier "CompaqP1210"
[09:23] <Pygi> OP STOP IT
[09:23] <_oP> 	HorizSync 30.0-121.0
[09:23] <mwe> _oP: hello STOP IT
[09:23] <mwe> _oP: hello STOP IT
[09:23] <rayyyys> bluesign, I while ago since I got involved with vmware
[09:23] <_oP> 	VertRefresh 50.0-160.0
[09:23] <Pygi> OMG
[09:23] <_oP> 	Option "DPMS"
[09:23] <Pygi> STOP IT
[09:23] <_oP> EndSection
[09:23] <Pygi> STOP
[09:23] <_oP> ##Monitor 1##
[09:23] <_oP> Section "Monitor"
[09:23] <Pygi> STOP I SAID
[09:23] <_jason> _oP, quit irc and come back!
[09:23] <_oP> 	Identifier	"Daewoo TV"
[09:23] <_oP> 	HorizSync	31.5
[09:23] <Pygi> STOP NOW OR FACE IT
[09:23] <mwe> _oP: youll get banned
[09:23] <yggdrasil_> gay
[09:23] <Pygi> STOP
[09:23] <Pygi> STOP
[09:23] <mwe> !ops
[09:23] <Pygi> STOP
[09:23] <_oP> 	VertRefresh 	20-60
[09:23] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, johndarkhorse or nalioth.
[09:23] <_oP> 	Option "DPMS"
[09:23] <_oP> EndSection
[09:23] <_oP> ##CTR##
[09:23] <Pygi> STOP
[09:23] <paladinew> soundray: It wont let me do a apt-get install freenx
[09:23] <CodenameKT> _oP: quit
[09:23] <_oP> Section "Screen"
[09:23] <Pygi> STOP
[09:23] <soundray> Pygi, how can he stop once he pasted...
[09:23] <Pygi> STOP
[09:24] <_oP> 	Identifier	"CTR"
[09:24] <_oP> 	Device		"CTR Radeon 9800 Pro"
[09:24] <_oP> 	Monitor		"CompaqP1210"
[09:24] <_oP> 	DefaultDepth	24
[09:24] <_oP> 
[09:24] <newdle> WEEWHOO
[09:24] <Pygi> soundray: still :/
[09:24] <_oP> 	SubSection "Display"
[09:24] <_oP> 		Depth		24
[09:24] <paladinew> soundray:  Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[09:24] <paladinew> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[09:24] <_oP> 		Modes		"1600x1200"
[09:24] <admin_> OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[09:24] <_oP> 	EndSubSection
[09:24] <Pygi> omg OP QUIT NOW
[09:24] <admin_> STOP
[09:24] <Pygi> omg OP QUIT NOW
[09:24] <admin_> STOP
[09:24] <Pygi> omg OP QUIT NOW
[09:24] <Pygi> omg OP QUIT NOW
[09:24] <admin_> STOP
[09:24] <yggdrasil_> poor bot net
[09:24] <_oP> EndSection
[09:24] <admin_> STOP
[09:24] <_oP> ##TV##
[09:24] <admin_> :E
[09:24] <admin_> :P
[09:24] <Pygi> omg OP QUIT NOW
[09:24] <_oP> Section "Screen"
[09:24] <Pygi> omg OP QUIT NOW
[09:24] <Pygi> omg OP QUIT NOW
[09:24] <mwe> !ops
[09:24] <_oP> 	Identifier	"TV"
[09:24] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, johndarkhorse or nalioth.
[09:24] <_oP> 	Device		"TV Radeon 9800 Pro"
[09:24] <newdle> I LIKE MONKEYS
[09:24] <mlalkaka> i don't think _oP can stop. once you paste a file into the chat, it'll keep coming until its done
[09:24] <_oP> 	Monitor 	"Daewoo TV"
[09:24] <Pygi> Seveas, please
[09:24] <_oP> 	DefaultDepth	24
[09:24] <_oP> 	SubSection "Display"
[09:24] <_oP> 	Depth		24
[09:24] <soundray> paladinew, need to do it with sudo then.
[09:24] <_oP> 	Modes		"800x600"
[09:24] <_jason> Pygi, you're just spamming more, just let it be.  He pasted the entire buffer
[09:24] <_oP> 	EndSubSection
[09:24] <kitty_> please can somebody help me...i have absolutly no Audio playback.. i think ive got all the codecs i need but no sound comes from the speakers, ive tried all my audio ports so it must be a software problem.
[09:24] <_oP> EndSection
[09:24] <_oP> Section "ServerLayout"
[09:24] <newdle> you can disable the buffer with ctrl+break
[09:24] <_oP> 	Identifier	"Server Layout"
[09:24] <newdle> or ctrl+c usually
[09:24] <_oP> 	Screen 0 	"CTR"
[09:24] <_oP> 	Screen 1	"TV" LeftOf "CTR"
[09:24] <newdle> or /stop
[09:24] <_oP> 	InputDevice	"Generic Keyboard"
[09:24] <_oP> 	InputDevice	"Configured Mouse"
[09:24] <yggdrasil_> can somone tell me how to start up the firefox profile manager
[09:24] <_oP> EndSection
[09:25] <_oP> Section "DRI"
[09:25] <_oP> 	Mode	0666
[09:25] <_oP> EndSection
[09:25] <_oP> sorry
[09:25] <_oP> sorry again
[09:25] <yggdrasil_> thank god
[09:25] <_oP> do like obove and u have two seperate screens with no problems
[09:25] <CodenameKT> lol
[09:25] <CodenameKT> wow so late
[09:25] <paladinew> soundray:  ~$ sudo apt-get install freenx
[09:25] <paladinew> Reading package lists... Done
[09:25] <paladinew> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:25] <paladinew> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[09:25] <paladinew> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[09:25] <_jason> yggdrasil, firefox -profilemanager, maybe profile-manager... try both
[09:25] <JulioH> ejejje
[09:25] <kitty_> WEL DONE
[09:25] <paladinew> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[09:25] <mlalkaka> kitty_, what type of file are you trying to play (mp3, ogg, etc)?
[09:25] <mwe> crackhead
[09:25] <paladinew> or been moved out of Incoming.
[09:25] <paladinew> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
[09:25] <kitty_> MP3
[09:25] <paladinew> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
[09:25] <paladinew> that package should be filed.
[09:25] <paladinew> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[09:25] <fabbione> JEEE
[09:25] <mwe> paladinew: don't paste in here
[09:25] <kitty_> AND OGG
[09:25] <paladinew> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:25] <paladinew>   freenx: Depends: expect but it is not installable
[09:25] <paladinew> E: Broken packages
[09:25] <paladinew> sorry
[09:25] <rayyyys> bluesign: allthough installing from scratch in a vm would be the easyest outside of time inconvenince, if you know what i mean
[09:25] <yggdrasil_> can somone tell me how to start up the firefox profile manager
[09:25] <mlalkaka> does anyone know why mplayer depends on xmms in the ubuntu repositories? is there a way to install mplayer without xmms?
[09:26] <fabbione> STOP FLOODING THIS CHANNEL
[09:26] <fabbione> USE PASTEBIN
[09:26] <fabbione> KTHXBYE
[09:26] <_jason> yggdrasil, i just did, scroll up
[09:26] <mwe> fabbione: we should make ubotu autokick and warn spammers :)
[09:26] <admin_> i'm italian and i have a problem with ubuntu!!! who can help me, please please please??
[09:26] <yggdrasil_> k jason
[09:26] <Pygi> !it
[09:26] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:26] <_oP> sorry again
[09:26] <_oP> :/
[09:27] <Ophiocus> argh, plastic bugs gimpshop file link is broken,. anyone knows where else i could get giumpshop?
[09:27] <mwe> _oP: don't do that again
[09:27] <admin_> ah grazie ubotu :)
[09:27] <Tyrsis> Can someone help me with WLAN installation ?
[09:27] <Pygi> never again
[09:27] <_oP> no no
[09:27] <mwe> _oP: please use the pastebin
[09:27] <rayyyys> mwe: mwe could i pick you for knowlage? is there any semi normal way to run live in ram?
[09:27] <yggdrasil_> it was the first one jason
[09:27] <yggdrasil_> htank
[09:27] <mwe> _oP: do you know pastebin?
[09:27] <omer> Which kerenel ubuntu 5.10 came with?
[09:27] <Pygi> !pastebin
[09:27] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:27] <student> mwe:  gpasswd:  can't get lock
[09:27] <Pygi> !kernel
[09:27] <Tyrsis> I have used ndiswrapper as stated in the support page, but I still cant connect to the wireless connection ?
[09:28] <Pygi> !kernel
[09:28] <mwe> student: um. hmm
[09:28] <Seveas> ugh
[09:28] <yggdrasil_> i cant believe they let him back in
[09:28] <_oP> i have heard about it ..
[09:28] <mwe> student: well
[09:28] <Seveas> someone just tried to lose all hope at getting help...
[09:28] <mwe> student: try vigr then
[09:28] <Pygi> seveas: huh?
[09:28] <_oP> @yggdrasil i have dynamic ip
[09:28] <_oP> :)
[09:28] <student> mwe: I typed in gpasswd -a student admin.  it said "Adding user student to group admin." And then "gpasswd: can't get lock".
[09:28] <student> mwe: what is vigr
[09:28] <rayyyys> mwe: should i take that as a no? :/
[09:28] <mwe> student: if it doesn't work nano or whatever editor /etc/passwd _carefully_
[09:28] <Seveas> Pygi, that pasting ***
[09:29] <omer> can you help me with my kernel? I have problem with the headers.
[09:29] <ubuntu> hello
[09:29] <mlalkaka> i think i've found some sort of error in dependencies. mplayer depends on xmms, but doesn't use xmms for anything, as far as i can tell. has anyone else noticed this? should i report it to developers or something?
[09:29] <Pygi> seveas: true :/
[09:29] <yggdrasil_> _op im intersted in seeng your pastebin
[09:29] <student> mwe: nano may not work since vi did not
[09:29] <paladinew> soundray: oops
[09:29] <soundray> paladinew, that wasn't very smart of you, after you used pastebin earlier...
[09:29] <mwe> student: vigr uses $EDITOR to edit the groups file and wont let you save if the syntax is bad
[09:29] <yggdrasil_> _op let me know when its done
[09:29] <rayyyys> ubuntu: hi ubuntu wellcome
[09:29] <ubuntu> wow linux wat to do hmm help
[09:29] <gorski> please, why does thisnot work: mysqladmin -u root password db_user_password?
[09:29] <paladinew> soundray: I didn't relaize it would flood the channel
[09:29] <Cyfr> Hi, im using gparted from the ubuntu live cd, trying to resize my HDA3 which is usualy /home, I get an error that its busy once it finishs and it reverts back to normal?
[09:29] <student> mwe: hell, I'm just going to reinstall
[09:29] <mwe> student: are some partitions not mounted or something?
[09:29] <mwe> student: no
[09:30] <mwe> student: it should be easy to fix
[09:30] <student> mwe: I don't know, I assume they are mounted
[09:30] <mwe> student: don't reinstall
[09:30] <mwe> student: type mount
[09:30] <paladinew> soundray: am I able to add the packages using synaptics manager ?
[09:30] <mwe> student: you're on that machine now?
[09:30] <soundray> paladinew, no, hold on a sec...
[09:30] <student> mwe: yes
[09:30] <thefamousnomo_> @trappist: things are getting a little bit crazy now...
[09:30] <mwe> student: pastebin the output of mount
[09:30] <student> mwe: /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[09:31] <student> mwe: is that good enough?
[09:31] <mwe> student: that's all?
[09:31] <student> mwe: one sec I'll pastebin
[09:31] <yatesy> this channel needs the S service from QuakeNet ;P
[09:31] <Tyrsis> Anyone know what I am doing wrong trying to get my WLAN to work ?
[09:31] <rayyyys> Seveas : can i ask you is there any way to run the live cd in ram?
[09:32] <yatesy> thats what it does?
[09:32] <yggdrasil_> selinium-p900
[09:32] <student> mwe: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6915
[09:32] <mwe> student: is vi installed?
[09:32] <thefamousnomo_> @trappist: now synaptic is telling me i have broken packages. 3 i think cannot be retrieved...
[09:32] <student> mwe: yes it is
[09:32] <student> mwe: and it's my preferred console config file editor
[09:33] <mwe> student: all right so you probably need to type the full path
[09:33] <mwe> student: /usr/bin/vi
[09:33] <student> mwe: to vi you mean
[09:33] <_oP> @rayyyys if u have the live cd u have to setup ur bios to boot from cd, but u dont have to worry it will not install over ur os, the ubuntu live  cd creates a ram drive and copies the needed files there
[09:33] <student> mwe: /usr/bin/vi /etc/group
[09:33] <student> mwe: like that?
[09:33] <mwe> student: no wait
[09:33] <hkais> trappist: I have set up my xorg.conf now but anyway the second display is only available if it is connected during boot
[09:33] <selinium> yggdrasil, Hi there, off the P900 now!
[09:33] <student> mwe: alright
[09:33] <yggdrasil_> _op whats your pastebin url ?
[09:33] <yggdrasil_> selinium
[09:33] <mwe> student: try vigr
[09:33] <yggdrasil_> ive gota 910
[09:34] <mwe> student: /usr/sbin/vigr
[09:34] <student> mwe: what should be the command using vigr?
[09:34] <_oP> @yggdrasil_ how do i set u up a pastebin?
[09:34] <selinium> yggdrasil, I was just connected using irssi via PUTTY for the 900!
[09:34] <rayyyys> _oP: what im try to do is run it in ram so i can umount and eject the cd
[09:34] <student> mwe:  and what happens next?
[09:34] <yggdrasil_> ahh right on
[09:34] <mwe> student: but try /usr/bin/gpasswd -a student admin first
[09:34] <yggdrasil_> what putty client do you use ?
[09:34] <mwe> student: or then /usr/sbin/vigr
[09:34] <Tyrsis> hmmmm
[09:34] <yggdrasil_> _op just go the ther and u sign in
[09:34] <mwe> student: or as the last resort /usr/bin/vi /etc/group
[09:35] <student> mwe: alright I'll try that
[09:35] <mwe> student: and be careful with the last one
[09:35] <yggdrasil_> mwe uboto tell _op about pastebin
[09:35] <yggdrasil_> uboto tell _op about pastebin
[09:35] <soundray> paladinew, remove all the # signs from the lines beginning with deb http in your /etc/apt/sources.list, then run 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[09:35] <rayyyys> _oP: i am fully aware it won't afect my hd
[09:35] <yggdrasil_> selenium msg me if you want
[09:35] <_oP> @rayyyys okay :)
[09:35] <omer> which gcc is the gcc of 2.6.2.12.10-386?
[09:35] <selinium> yggdrasil, http://matrix.tmit.bme.hu/putty/   :) I have a irc client as well!
[09:35] <yggdrasil_> ive got irc
[09:35] <yggdrasil_> but didnt have an ssh
[09:35] <yggdrasil_> well the ssh i have is um
[09:35] <paladinew> soundray: ok, sec
[09:36] <mwe> _oP: can you use pastebin to paste your xorg.conf for me, please?
[09:36] <yggdrasil_> not free
[09:36] <rayyyys> _oP so do you understand what i mean ?
[09:36] <mwe> !pastebin
[09:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:36] <mwe> _oP: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org there
[09:36] <rayyyys> _oP: I just can't beleave know one has an answer :?
[09:36] <creatix> hi, wei jemand wie man quicktime streams speichern kann?
[09:36] <soundray> !de
[09:36] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[09:37] <creatix> oh, sry
[09:37] <thefamousnomo_> hey, seem to have some issues retreiving 3 packages while attempting to upgrade to pmount 0.9.6-1. any ideas?
[09:37] <_oP> @rayyyys yes i guess u want to set up a ram drive witch will need no cd , but then what happens if u want to turn off ur pc ?
[09:37] <soundray> creatix, klein plobrem :)
[09:37] <mwe> creatix: look into installing w32codecs
[09:37] <paladinew> soundray: updating...
[09:37] <mwe> !tell creatix about w32codecs
[09:37] <selinium> yggdrasil, the phantom rebooter...... :)
[09:37] <_Adam_> yay
[09:37] <_Adam_> help please :)
[09:38] <_oP> <-- noob needs to know how to set up a pastebin hehe
[09:38] <mwe> _oP: would you show me your xorg.conf?
[09:38] <soundray> mwe, he wants to *save* streams...
[09:38] <Pygi> !pastebin
[09:38] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:38] <yggdrasil_> yea me 2
[09:38] <paladinew> soundray: installing...
[09:38] <mwe> soundray: oh
[09:38] <thefamousnomo_> @trappist: sweating here man.....
[09:38] <mwe> soundray: I guess my german could be better :)
[09:38] <_Adam_> i need help with header files for vmware tools
[09:38] <ompaul> rayyyys, as far as I know the answer is you can't
[09:39] <mrd`> How do I tell synaptic I'm not interested in ever upgrading a certain package?
[09:39] <mwe> soundray: speichern means save?
[09:39] <Reiki-> (antiQrist) [where can I find info about games / apps .. for ubuntu] 
[09:39] <robotgeek> mrd`: apt pinning
[09:39] <soundray> mwe, yes, save or store.
[09:39] <mjr> mrd`, not sure in synaptic, but you can say echo "package hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[09:39] <mwe> I see
[09:39] <mrd`> mjr: I already marked it hold in aptitude.
[09:39] <mrd`> mjr: Does that do the same thing?
[09:40] <mjr> yes
[09:40] <nerochiaro> hi, ubuntu and gnome newbie here. i'm having problem with audio input. everytime i use audio recorder or the input test in "multimedia systems selector" the whole application hangs and i'm forced to kill it. anyone has any suggestions ?
[09:40] <mjr> (well, should, to my knowledge)
[09:40] <rayyyys> ompaul: ok I wish some off the logtimers would repliy on this
[09:40] <_Adam_> i need help with header files for vmware tools anyone?
[09:40] <rayyyys> ompaul: thanks ompaul
[09:40] <_oP> @mwe why cant i send u a file?
[09:40] <soundray> paladinew, sounds like you're well on the way. Hope you get it set up -- I have to go.
[09:40] <_oP> :)
[09:40] <thefamousnomo_> thanks all the same man, think i have kinda ruined this install..... scared to restart
[09:40] <mwe> !pastebin
[09:40] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:40] <mrd`> mjr: Well, I'll check just to be sure.  (I know I marked it hold on this machine, I *thought* I marked it hold on the other one too.)
[09:40] <mwe> _oP: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:41] <mwe> _oP: just go there and paste
[09:41] <paladinew> soundray: thank you very much
[09:41] <mwe> _oP: then post the url here
[09:41] <soundray> Cheers, good night everyone.
[09:41] <Reiki-> ..Q: where can I find info about games / apps .. for ubuntu
[09:41] <selinium> Reiki-, In synaptic you can choose Sections (bottom left) then Games. Or you can try www.linuxgames.com
[09:41] <Reiki-> k  thanks
[09:41] <mwe> Reiki-: or happypenguin.org
[09:41] <_Adam_> i need help with header files for vmware tools anyone?
[09:41] <_oP> dohh i am to drunk to , okay cool i will do
[09:41] <Reiki-> :)
[09:41] <rayyyys> so unfriendly here
[09:41] <yggdrasil_> great
[09:41] <Pygi> !patience
[09:41] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[09:41] <LinDon> german ??
[09:42] <LinDon> channel ??
[09:42] <ompaul> rayyyys, no, your question is unusual and maybe that no one has the answer
[09:42] <_jason> !de
[09:42] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[09:42] <IAmAI> Can only suggest a package for quickly convertin multiple DOS formated files to Unix/Linux formated files in the shell?
[09:42] <EdgeLnx> How do I update the X lol?
[09:42] <IAmAI> *anyone
[09:42] <yggdrasil_> rayyyys actualy this is like the most forgiving linux chan ive ever seen
[09:42] <mwe> rayyyys: if no one answers, probably nobody knows right now
[09:42] <rayyyys> yggdrasil: hmm yeah i have seen harsher
[09:42] <_Adam_> :(
[09:43] <IAmAI> Think I found one: http://www.thefreecountry.com/tofrodos/index.shtml
[09:43] <rayyyys> mwe: is that a don't no from you to?
[09:44] <mwe> yggdrasil_: linux chans are usually like BOFH: WHAT! you havnen't administered *nix servers for 15 years? Go back to windows :)
[09:44] <yggdrasil_> rayys thats what im saying this is the most easy going oone ive seen
[09:44] <yggdrasil_> mwe yea totaly
[09:44] <ompaul> rayyyys, no, he is explaining why you got no answer, because no one knows, but I think I read somewhere and I trying to remember where that it does not
[09:44] <iantec> errr....somehow i lost the icons near the clock how do i recover them.,...i cant see the icons of applications rtunnign at the background like kopete and gaim
[09:44] <rayyyys> yggdrasil: have some tips on irc edicate
[09:44] <_Adam_> i'm a windows admin :)
[09:44] <yggdrasil_> haha
[09:44] <_oP> okay
[09:44] <yggdrasil_> rayyys first start by asking if anyone wants to cyber
[09:45] <ompaul> _Adam_, welcome to the bright side :-)
[09:45] <_oP> need to adjust the file of course
[09:45] <yggdrasil_> op post us your url ?
[09:45] <_Adam_> i just cant get the header files i need
[09:45] <odat> hi everyone
[09:46] <_oP> servas
[09:46] <trappist> _Adam_: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:46] <trappist> _Adam_: oh oops you didn't mean kernel headers
[09:46] <rayyyys> yggdrasil_:  yeah him that'll break the ice
[09:46] <mwe> _oP: what's the pastebin address?
[09:46] <trappist> IAmAI: dos2unix
[09:46] <_oP> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6917
[09:47] <_Adam_> i did i need the ones for the kernal
[09:47] <IAmAI> trappist: I though that was just for Unix?
[09:47] <iantec> how do i restore my kde desktop/
[09:47] <yggdrasil_> _op yes!!!!i knew you could do it
[09:47] <iantec> ?
[09:47] <ompaul> _Adam_, >> sudo apt-get install build-essential << is the command that I think you want
[09:47] <_oP> this if u want to set up two seperate screens so .. "no clone"
[09:47] <IAmAI> trappist: Or Solaris, or whatever...
[09:47] <_oP> i am also using a ati radeon 9800 pro
[09:47] <trappist> IAmAI: there's no difference
[09:47] <IAmAI> OK.
[09:48] <mwe> _oP: ok
[09:48] <IAmAI> Gonna try tofrodos
[09:48] <ompaul> _Adam_, do you want Ubuntu to tbe the host or guest ?
[09:48] <trappist> IAmAI: it's part of the sysutils package, if you don't have it
[09:48] <IAmAI> OK
[09:48] <_Adam_> ok... cos i need files in the usr/scr/linux/included/  dirctory
[09:48] <_Adam_> the guest
[09:48] <mwe> _oP: do you know what line tells it to use tvout?
[09:48] <trappist> _Adam_: oh, you DO want kernel headers.  do what I said then :)
[09:48] <mwe> _oP: "VideoOverlay" ?
[09:48] <IAmAI> trappist: I got some Linxus drivers from a manufacturer's website and all the scripts are in DOS format!
[09:48] <IAmAI> trappist: The idiots...
[09:49] <mwe> IAmAI: lol
[09:49] <trappist> IAmAI: that's the worst thing I've ever heard
[09:49] <mwe> IAmAI: perl -pi -e 's/\r\n$/\n/' dos.txt
[09:49] <trappist> that could work too
[09:50] <trappist> or perl -pi -e 's/\r\n$/\n/' $(find /path/to/files -name '*.c' -o -name '*.h')
[09:50] <omer> Can you help me with compaile kernel headers?
[09:51] <trappist> omer: you don't compile kernel headers
[09:51] <rseeber> hey
[09:51] <_Adam_> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) didnt work
[09:51] <hkais> trappist: sorry tried a restart
[09:51] <omer> I have problem with them.
[09:51] <rseeber> i just installed unbuntu and love it, but how do i get firefox 1.5
[09:51] <_Adam_> its unable to lock stuff
[09:51] <hkais> trappist: i have the same problem again. my second display won't run
[09:51] <trappist> !tell rseeber about firefox15
[09:51] <_Adam_> oh hang on
[09:51] <hkais> have I to do something special?
[09:51] <omer> There is two files I need that exicte only at my old kernel. What can I do?
[09:51] <_Adam_> working now
[09:52] <trappist> hkais: remind me - you're the nvidia guy or the ati guy?
[09:52] <_oP> @@mwe hmm dunno here i have my pc plus tv running, with two independent screens running, so i can watch movie on tv and play games on ctr
[09:52] <trappist> omer: what specifically are you trying to do
[09:52] <hkais> ati
[09:52] <rseeber> thanks
[09:52] <trappist> hkais: you ran fglrxconfig?
[09:52] <hkais> trappist: ati
[09:52] <hkais> trappist: yes
[09:52] <_oP> @trappist i wouldent do that !!
[09:53] <trappist> hkais: I'm afraid that's all I can do for ya.  it worked flawlessly for me.
[09:53] <kestra> hey, I want to set up a 32 bit chroot on my 64 bit installation... as I understand i'd have to get gnome/xserver .. but how do you then work in that 32 environment? I mean you don't have to restart or anything?.. is it in a seperate window or what? :)
[09:53] <hkais> trappist: the second display works, but only if i restart the gdm than connected the second display
[09:53] <trappist> kestra: you chroot to your chroot, basically
[09:53] <_Adam_> thats no good, the installer is being fussy and wants them in usr/scr/linux/include/
[09:53] <hkais> trappist: but it is an problem if i want to make presentations via a projector
[09:54] <_oP> lol, dohh! i am to tiddly :)
[09:54] <omer> Todo apt somehow update my kernel. So I need to run from the start the acx script, and it don't work, because of kernel headers. I have kernel headers on the computer, what I need to do now?
[09:54] <_oP> cheers!
[09:54] <trappist> omer: sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:54] <kestra> okay.
[09:54] <trappist> _Adam_: what installer?
[09:55] <omer> I done that
[09:55] <_Adam_> vmware-tools-config.pl
[09:55] <mrd`> mjr: Thanks, that worked.
[09:55] <hkais> trappist: could you post me your xorg.conf?
[09:55] <trappist> _Adam_: iirc it prompts you for the location of your kernel headers
[09:55] <omer> I have linux headers. I just now notice that. Thanks any way.
[09:55] <_oP> what do smokers say if they light a cigarette ? "cheers" ? hmm...?
[09:56] <hkais> trappist: does your ati control displays the selected desktop setup?
[09:56] <holong> hello every1
[09:56] <trappist> hkais: www.linuxkungfu.org/tmp/xorg.conf
[09:56] <Set> I'm going insane over this
[09:56] <trappist> hkais: can't quite parse that last question
[09:56] <ompaul> Set, over what?
[09:56] <_oP> @Set yes what is the prob`?
[09:56] <_Adam_> yes trappist, but it complains it cant find the linux directory
[09:57] <bakkk> I am installing FCGI and I am getting configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
[09:57] <icaros> l
[09:57] <ompaul> _oP, you really don't need the @ most clients change colour when a users name is used
[09:57] <Guest8438> hi how do i change the keyboard layout in fluxbox / UBUNTU
[09:57] <trappist> _Adam_: it's not insisting on a location.  it's prompting you and providing its best guess.  just tell it the path to your real headers.
[09:57] <hkais> trappist: if you start your ati control, what is selected in the dual screen tab\desktop setup?
[09:58] <_Adam_> i tried that and it siad there isnt a directory called linux like it expected
[09:58] <Set> _oP, well. to make it short. I am fiddling with a server setup. First I tried SUSE. But the community is quite arrogant and unhelpful towards n00bs, it seems. All I want to do is to setup a server with ssh, sftp, a server called TwonkyVision. that's the core things I need for it, all other things I can fiddle with for years, if it takes that.
[09:58] <_oP> @ompaul okay but i like it, its more personal
[09:58] <Set> So, having had *very* good experiences with k/ubuntu earlier, with the helpfulness of you guys, I'm wondering if ubuntu can do this
[09:58] <_Adam_> my misstake
[09:59] <_Adam_> i just tried restarting the config.pl and its found them :P
[09:59] <_Adam_> sorrys
[09:59] <Guest8438> any 1, keyboard layout in ubuntu, how to change?
[09:59] <kerub88> hello all!
[09:59] <omer> Hello
[09:59] <_Adam_> thanks trappist
[09:59] <pansonic> hello
[10:00] <kerub88> can anybody help to me?
[10:00] <_oP> suse there u only find noobs like me, u are right here
[10:00] <gnomefreak> kerub88, not if we dont know whats wrong
[10:00] <kerub88> :)
[10:00] <_oP> good people good help :)
[10:00] <tonyyarusso> Guest8438, One moment, I may be able to find that.  (I'm using Gnome, which has a GUI for it, but I don't know anything about Fluxbox.)
[10:00] <Teskupo> Dreamglider!!
[10:00] <kerub88> I install ubuntu an hour ago...
[10:00] <trappist> hkais: that was the first time I ever used ati control, and if I enable tv-out I get the same behavior you're seeing.  screwed me all up :)
[10:01] <hkais> lol
[10:01] <_oP> @@@@@@@@@
[10:01] <kerub88> and i cant set the monitor resolution higher then 640*480
[10:01] <hkais> trappist: sorry
[10:01] <trappist> np
[10:01] <_oP> @
[10:01] <cvt|kde> no shockwave?
[10:01] <hkais> trappist: i will try your xorg.conf
[10:01] <_oP> :)
[10:01] <hkais> which card do you have?
[10:01] <trappist> I dunno, some laptop card
[10:01] <kerub88> nvidia
[10:01] <gnomefreak> kerub88, does your monitor or vc support over 640 480?
[10:01] <Set> _oP, I didn't say you were a n00b. I said SUSE is unhelpful towards n00bs, like me (to my experience)
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> Guest8438, Okay, I have something.  Keyboard layouts for X are defined in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, in the InputDevice | Keyboard section.
[10:02] <Guest8438> tonyyarusso i also have Gnome can i change the layout in gnom would it change in fluxbox too?
[10:02] <trappist> kerub88: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:02] <kerub88> yes of course (1024*768)
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> Guest8438, Maybe.  Worth a try.
[10:02] <odat> SCO is gonna lose lololo hooray lol
[10:02] <gnomefreak> kerub88, use the command trappist just gave and change it
[10:02] <student> okay how do I make it so that when I am logged in as a non-admin user, I can use the "su" program to run programs if I need to.  I don't necessarily want to log-off the user and re-login with the admin account.
[10:03] <trappist> student: you want to use sudo for that
[10:03] <gnomefreak> student, use sudo than the command
[10:03] <ompaul> Set, is there a linux client or sever for this twonkyserver
[10:03] <Guest8438> but when i do it i think i loos my graphic setting on my comp i have a vaio with a wired resolution
[10:03] <tonyyarusso> Guest8438, If you have to edit that file, look for the lines with XkbModel and XkbLayout (mine are pc104 and us, respectively).
[10:03] <student> trappist: gnomefreak: I can't use sudo because the user is not in the admin group.
[10:03] <Set> ompaul, Yes, it is. I don't have a problem running it, but I'm having problems making it run at startup (not being started manually)
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> Guest8438, No idea about the graphics setting.
[10:04] <ompaul> Set, how do you start it on the command line?
[10:04] <trappist> student: to do that you'd have to enable the root account, which can be done but it defeats the purpose of how ubuntu handles root access
[10:05] <Set> ./TwonkyMedia
[10:05] <trappist> gah.
[10:05] <_omerlh> How can I switch the kernel to my old and good one?
[10:05] <Pygi> freaky: please read ur mail
[10:05] <ompaul> Set, heh, okay so is it fair to say that it is in your home directory
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> _omerlh, Do you still have the old one installed, or did you delete after upgrading?
[10:05] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[10:05] <gnomefreak> i just did im sending it back
[10:05] <_oP> Set what i meant is that if u had suse running u cant expect experts :) ubuntu is build up on debian which has proven it self over many years espessialy in forums and help channels
[10:05] <Pygi> freaky:k,I'll look
[10:05] <gnomefreak> i hope :(
[10:06] <_omerlh> No, I think I have. I don't  delete anything.
[10:06] <Shackleton1986> hi
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> _omerlh, Also, do you use Grub, Lilo, or something else for your bootloader?
[10:06] <gnomefreak> damnit thunderbird is down let me re-send this :(
[10:06] <_omerlh> I think grub.
[10:06] <ompaul> _oP, conversation in #ubuntu-offtopic please this is a support channel and altough interesting chats elsewhere please as we have over 650 here
[10:06] <odat> who wants a kick ass sources list?
[10:07] <Blacken__> Howdy, folks. Anyone have any experience trying to install 5.10 under VMware 4?
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> _omerlh, Okay, take a look at /boot/grub/menu.lst, see if it has multiple entries, with each of the kernels.
[10:07] <woodgrain> how do I find out what version of JRE is on my system?
[10:07] <_oP> hee`
[10:07] <Set> ompaul, do you think you could be able to help me with setting up an anonymous ftp server that allows anonymous users upload into an upload directory in ubuntu?...
[10:07] <woodgrain> Is JRE part of the ubuntu base install?
[10:08] <tonyyarusso> _omerlh, If it does, you'll just have to change the default one.  If not, I think update-grub will check the system for kernels and add them.
[10:08] <_oP> pff :))
[10:08] <ompaul> Set, shall we sort one thing at a time
[10:08] <tonyyarusso> woodgrain, No, it wouldn't be legal.
[10:08] <odat> woodgrain, no
[10:08] <john_> Anybody run ubuntu on vmware?
[10:08] <tonyyarusso> woodgrain, A good way to find if you have it though is locate j2re.
[10:08] <Blacken> john_: I'm trying to, at least.
[10:08] <Ribs> john_: I do.
[10:08] <paladinew> where do I find my IP ?
[10:08] <Ribs> What's up?
[10:08] <john_> How's it going
[10:08] <odat> tonyyarusso, sup
[10:08] <Pygi> paladinew: ifconfig
[10:08] <paladinew> ty
[10:08] <john_> Mine is a bit sluggish
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> odat, Back and school, and liking not having to use dialup anymore!
[10:09] <Set> ompaul, yes. of course. but I haven't installed ubuntu yet, so maybe it's rude to ask then? I was just wondering if ubuntu is a better choice for my needs
[10:09] <Blacken> john_: Terrible. I can't even install the Christing thing.
[10:09] <woodgrain> tonyyarusso, but I can put it on if I want to, eh?
[10:09] <Ribs> john_: The virtual machine will always be slower than the real one.
[10:09] <odat> tonyyarusso, i bet!!
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> woodgrain, Yep.
[10:09] <_omerlh> yes, there is two kernels there.
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> !tell woodgrain about java
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> !tell woodgrain about javadebs
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> woodgrain, Those should help.
[10:09] <woodgrain> tonyyarusso,  do people commonly put JRE on ubuntu boxes or is it weird?
[10:09] <_omerlh> thanks you
[10:10] <tonyyarusso> woodgrain, I don't know about everyone else, but I do because I need it for applets on certain web sites.
[10:10] <Itz>   got ptoblem with apache 2.0.54 (ubuntu)  not showing my native language correct and yes my html got: <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">  but it aint working anyway... if i open the content on my harddrive its showing correct
[10:10] <woodgrain> tonyyarusso, big help thatnks a lot -- I'm trying to run eclipse, which requires jre.
[10:10] <tonyyarusso> woodgrain, Also, PLF repos have current jre versions, if you want to check out those.
[10:10] <ompaul> Set, not really, the thing is that if you have the box in front of you then we can do one thing at a time however before you go to do that let me give you a URL you should read about adding packages in ubuntu
[10:10] <ompaul> !tell set about repos
[10:10] <woodgrain> tonyyarusso,  what's the PLF repository?
[10:10] <odat> woodgrain, my ubuntu has everything you would fine in a commercial desktop OS  you pretty much have to add java,flash,mplayer,w32, etc etc. But once that stuff is installed   my ubuntu is bad ass
[10:11] <ompaul> !tell set about synaptic
[10:11] <Blacken> Ubuntu on VMware 4 is giving me trouble -- "Cannot install base system to /target/".
[10:11] <Blacken> IDE and SCSI emulation both bork.
[10:11] <woodgrain> odat, what's w32?
[10:11] <tonyyarusso> woodgrain, Penguin Liberation Front.  They put together packages that are of, um, questionable legality to release.
[10:11] <kerub88> this works!!! many thanks!!
[10:11] <ompaul> Set, read the stuff from ubotu before you start if you want to build a server with all sorts of extras in it
[10:11] <tonyyarusso> !tell woodgrain about plf
[10:11] <trappist> Itz: is it a php file?
[10:11] <odat> woodgrain, the codecs/dll for windows media video
[10:12] <odat> kerub88, what works?
[10:12] <gnomefreak> the res works now?
[10:12] <Set> ompaul, I'll start installing it now :) Got the server right here and have an ubuntu cd
[10:12] <Itz> trappist,   http://vernus.mine.nu/VERNUS/
[10:12] <ompaul> Set, :-)
[10:12] <woodgrain> tonyyarusso, does re-booting make an ubuntu box run faster?
[10:13] <Itz> trappist,  ordinary html.. nothing fancy
[10:13] <odat> woodgrain, no
[10:13] <tonyyarusso> woodgrain, I doubt it.
[10:13] <trappist> Itz: it looks good to me.  you might check your browser settings, font, things like that
[10:13] <Blacken> odat, tonyyarusso: Untrue. Firefox leaks.
[10:13] <mchasard> is there an ubuntu lite version ?
[10:13] <Set> ubuntu is able to apt-get dist-upgrade, from any version=
[10:13] <Blacken> A lot of memory gets chewed up.
[10:13] <odat> tonyyarusso, wow there are newbies then there are NEWBIES   whew
[10:13] <tonyyarusso> Blacken, Explain?
[10:13] <woodgrain> odat, if I have 20 evince documents open and open office, that _should_ make my box run slower, right?
[10:14] <gnomefreak> ubuntu lite? is that like miller lite?
[10:14] <Blacken> tonyyarusso: Fx never releases all its image data and eventually you'll run out of memory.
[10:14] <Blacken> afk
[10:14] <woodgrain> odat, just trying to keep an eye out for instabilities.
[10:14] <trappist> woodgrain: rebooting is not the solution for that
[10:14] <mchasard> like mepis lite
[10:14] <woodgrain> trappist, what is?
[10:14] <odat> woodgrain, depends on your hardware but prolly  YES
[10:14] <Itz> trappist,  it aint working on three computers... nor mozilla. ff . opera or internet explorer except when opening from harddrive... my native language  doesnt show correctly
[10:14] <kerub88> now, i can modify the monitor resolution:)
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> odat, Yeah, well, I was one of those VERY recently.
[10:14] <trappist> woodgrain: closing what's open?
[10:14] <mchasard> just in order to use it with older config
[10:14] <kerub88> (odat)
[10:14] <odat> Blacken, what did i say about firefox?
[10:14] <woodgrain> trappist, no joke, smarty!
[10:14] <odat> tonyyarusso, lol i also forget how quickly i caught on
[10:14] <odat> lol
[10:15] <gnomefreak> mchasard, you can install server mode that is text only no GUI than install a lightweight desktop app like fluxbox or xfce
[10:15] <odat> kerub88, ?
[10:15] <trappist> Itz: whatever you just typed there as your language showed up as gibberish here, but your website looks great.  I do have a *lot* of fonts installed, though.
[10:15] <mchasard> yes but for the moment i just want to use as livecd
[10:15] <mchasard> is there a lite version on live cd
[10:16] <Itz> trappist, yeah but somehow it aint choosing correct charset so i cant see my swedish words. but it works from my harddrive so its obviously something with apache... also works on my pals webbserver under windows ms.
[10:16] <trappist> Itz: er wait, there doesn't seem to be any text here.  just images.
[10:16] <Blacken> Back.
[10:16] <trappist> nm, not true
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> odat, Yeah, that still amazes me.  When I was first looking at things, they talked about the "steeper learning curve", and how that would make it harder to catch on initially.  Recently though, I saw another article that suggested that it should be looked at as you will know more sooner, and that seemed about right.
[10:16] <kerub88> five minutes ago, i ask for my problem here, trappist answer that.....  (odat)
[10:17] <trappist> Itz: the O's look like diamonds, but that looks like maybe it's deliberate?
[10:17] <Itz> trappist, no the o is a swedish latter that you cant see.. and neither am i but im suppose to do that ;)
[10:17] <odat> kerub88, ok
[10:18] <trappist> ah hah.
[10:18] <kerub88> so thx for answer, by all
[10:19] <thegladiator> this is my memtest86+ result , do you think this could cause crashing of many applications esp firefox which crashes witout any error ?
[10:19] <thegladiator> http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6973/dsc002952sh.jpg
[10:19] <nerochiaro> if anyone is willing to help, i have this problem with audio input: everytime i use audio recorder or the input test in "multimedia systems selector" the whole application hangs and i'm forced to kill it. this happens with both alsa and esd inputs.
[10:19] <svb_moe> Jemand aus Deutschland da?
[10:20] <Profichilla> svb_moe >> #ubuntu-de
[10:20] <trappist> Itz: it may be a compile-time problem.  I'm checking.
[10:20] <Itz> trappist, ok thx
[10:20] <thegladiator> someone pleasE?
[10:20] <trappist> Itz: also try this: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/core.html#adddefaultcharset
[10:21] <Itz> trappist,  i also changed my  sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[10:21] <Itz>  since i was running utf-8before
[10:21] <Itz> trappist, ok reading
[10:21] <thegladiator> going by the result of memtest http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6973/dsc002952sh.jpg , do you think this cud be causin applications like firefox to crash  ? it crashes many times . wondering if a mem replace can help . is it time to replace my mem ?
[10:22] <hkais> trappist: have you reconfigured something in the ati control?
[10:22] <thegladiator> if its internal prog bug i'd save upgrading my RAM
[10:22] <Blacken>  "The base system install into /target/ failed." Anyone ever seen this error in VMware?
[10:22] <trappist> hkais: no, never used it before today
[10:23] <hkais> anyway is something preselected in dualscreen\desktop setup?
[10:23] <greg> hey all i'v been here a few times lol has anyone ever install ShowEQ on ubuntu? if so plz msg me
[10:23] <joseph> I have a regular user who does not belong to the admin group.  I want to be able to run admin programs while this user is logged in.  how can I accomplish this?
[10:23] <hkais> trappist: anyway is something preselected in dualscreen\desktop setup?
[10:23] <kitty_> can someone help me.. i cant get any audio in KDE or Gnome
[10:23] <mofomikeman> I need help
[10:23] <Itz> trappist, sounds like your into something... whough i dont understand where i should change this syntax?
[10:24] <trappist> hkais: I don't have anything matching that description in my ati control
[10:24] <tonyyarusso> kitty_, Can you get audio outside of the DEs?
[10:24] <kitty_> i dont know what that means...
[10:24] <hkais> trappist: no tab dualscreen?
[10:24] <mofomikeman> PM me if you can offer support, please.
[10:24] <_jason> joseph, add him to the admin group 'adduser USERNAME admin'
[10:24] <joseph> _jason: I don't want to add him to the admin group...these are children students.
[10:24] <trappist> Itz: /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[10:25] <joseph> _jason: I need to maintain separate admin and user accounts.  But when logged in as user, I want to be able to run admin programs optionally.
[10:25] <joseph> is this impossible in ubuntu?
[10:25] <trappist> joseph: if you're logged in as one of those guys, su - to your own account and then sudo
[10:25] <_jason> joseph, hrmm I don't know, you could 'su' to your user and then run them I suppose
[10:26] <Itz> trappist,  ok looking into that now then
[10:26] <trappist> mofomikeman: you're not going to get any until you ask a question.  guaranteed.
[10:26] <thegladiator> http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6973/dsc002952sh.jpg  can someone tell me how good is memtest result ? is it time for immediate replacement ?
[10:26] <SmasSive> Anyone have /var/run mounted with tmpfs?
[10:26] <kitty_> im not sure what you mean
[10:26] <thegladiator> the machine boots well. some apps crash though
[10:26] <tonyyarusso> joseph, You can define sudo for each user to allow them to run only certain programs.  Use visudo to edit the sudoers file, and you can add whatever you need them to be able to do to that.
[10:26] <joseph> trappist: _jason: okay but then what about the gnome system programs, would I have to launch them from console?  I wouldn't be able to just launch them from menu and have a dialogue come up asking me for the admin password.
[10:26] <odat> joseph, its all in permisssion which you can find and change in user and groups
[10:27] <_jason> joseph, launch them with 'gksudo' would work (if they need admin rights)
[10:27] <_jason> joseph, one sec, let em try something
[10:27] <ompaul> thegladiator, new ram perhaps
[10:27] <joseph> odat: tonyyarusso:  I want my user to have no admin permissions at all, and I want my admin user to have all the admin permissions.  When the user is logged on to his gnome session, I want to be able to launch programs that require admin permissions and have a dialogue come up asking me for appropriate password.
[10:27] <ompaul> thegladiator, you don't know what it will corrupt next
[10:27] <thegladiator> it cud be causing many apps to crash in your opinion ?
[10:28] <thegladiator> i see'256 is a high number in 256MB ram ?
[10:28] <thegladiator> 256 errors I mean
[10:28] <ompaul> joseph, just set up a second user and they don't have those permissions
[10:28] <cyphase> http://www.ucomics.com/foxtrot/2006/01/09/
[10:28] <tonyyarusso> joseph, Which do you mean by the "appropriate password"?  That of the normal user, or admin?
[10:28] <erUSUL> hikenboot, i need to get a newer version of wireless-tools than the one shipped with breezy. i have googled to no avail. anyone knows how or whre to get it?
[10:28] <ompaul> thegladiator, that is an erro in the 108k location in ram
[10:28] <joseph> tonyyarusso: that of the admin
[10:28] <mofomikeman> register
[10:29] <erUSUL> hikenboot, i need to get a newer version of wireless-tools than the one shipped with breezy. i have googled to no avail. anyone knows how or whre to get it?
[10:29] <thegladiator> aaah...so firefox etc could be using this location ?
[10:29] <mofomikeman> How do I register?
[10:29] <hkais> anyone else here with ati propritary driver and dual screen mode?
[10:29] <thegladiator> doent these progs skip bad mem locations ?
[10:29] <joseph> tonyyarusso: the way it works in Debian, if you've ever used it....when regular users launch programs requiring root permission, a dialogue comes up asking for the password.
[10:29] <gnomefreak> mofomikeman, register what?
[10:29] <thegladiator> these programs  cant use good locations ? or such a feature is not available ?
[10:29] <mofomikeman> on mIRC
[10:30] <tonyyarusso> joseph, I haven't used Debian, but there are one or two things in Ubuntu that have asked for the root password, rather than the user password of a full sudoer.
[10:30] <thegladiator> mofomikeman, this is no MIRC HELP dude
[10:30] <gnomefreak> type /msg nickserv register your password
[10:30] <_jason> joseph, you can lock the screen and then switch user, login as yourself, and then when you log out you'll return to the locked screen (the user would have to then type their password to unlock it)
[10:30] <misieh> see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[10:30] <kitty_> can someone help me to get my audio working...
[10:30] <joseph> _jason: that's such an ordeal
[10:30] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, does he mean mirc or freenode ?
[10:30] <mofomikeman> ok ill ask my ubuntu questions then
[10:30] <gnomefreak> im assuming mirc works same way as xchat
[10:30] <mofomikeman> HOLD ON
[10:31] <tonyyarusso> joseph, Why do you need these things run by the admin but under another users login?  (I'm assuming the user in question would not know the admin password?)
[10:31] <thegladiator> mirc registration is for software...as sucj
[10:31] <thegladiator> such*
[10:31] <mofomikeman> Two questions:  My gui will not load, I have just installed it.  Right now I am booted to windows, as I don't know how to use the linux console (i was told ubuntu was more windows-like, for beginners).  And my other question, I do not know the password to the root account! I do not ever remember setting one up.
[10:31] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, dont have a clue mirc would be when he makes his name so i assumed freenode
[10:31] <_jason> joseph, I agree with you, you are better off using 'su' in a terminal.  But I don't see how else you can get a menu etc.
[10:31] <ompaul> !tell mofomikeman about root
[10:31] <Sansu> lo everyone
[10:31] <Itz> trappist, ok i changed: AddDefaultCharset iso-8859-1    what do i need to do to get it enabled? apache2 restart?
[10:31] <thegladiator> ompaul, ah
[10:31] <joseph> tonyyarusso: because these are student library computers that will be logged in as regular users.  In case something happens I might want to walk-up to it and launch a program that requires admin permissions.
[10:31] <trappist> Itz: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[10:32] <mofomikeman> the password is locked as in "locked" ?
[10:32] <thegladiator> ompaul, wud the location 108k be used by firefox? or other applications ?
[10:32] <ompaul> mofomikeman run this  >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<<
[10:32] <gnomefreak> mofomikeman, you use sudo and user password for "root" access
[10:32] <ompaul> mofomikeman, what said that?
[10:32] <thegladiator> therer is no feture to skip damaged mem as hard disk does ?
[10:32] <thegladiator> feature*
[10:32] <TTilus> thegladiator: afaik no
[10:33] <misieh> what do you have to do to set up a ubuntu mashine as a router (i have both netcards working, i can connect to the internet from ubuntu, i can ping computers on my local network BUT they cannot go out to the internet)
[10:33] <hkais> thegladiator: how do you wish to detect the defect ram?
[10:33] <joseph> _jason: is there a way to turn off this ubuntu sudo stuff and just go back to the regular way of doing things?
[10:33] <tonyyarusso> joseph, How often does "something happen"?  A new login seems like the simplest way, but I'll grant that it would be annoying to have to do a lot.  Also, is it absolutely necessary to have menu access, or could you live with launching from a command line?
[10:33] <mofomikeman> DAMNIT this is too confusing, too much talk
[10:33] <TTilus> thegladiator: other than totally skipping it off from the computer
[10:33] <ompaul> mofomikeman, read the full page it will be obvious, in using Ubuntu for a year and a good bit I have not had to use "root" all done through sudo
[10:33] <_jason> joseph, what's the regular way? using root?
[10:33] <thegladiator> hkais, i dont know , it wud have been gr8 if its there
[10:33] <thegladiator> TTilus, i see
[10:33] <pramz> joseph: what benefit do you see from using a root account ?
[10:33] <Itz> trappist,  same shit but i got a warning: [warn]  NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts
[10:33] <joseph> _jason: yes, using root.  and having a gui dialogue prompt for root password if you launch a program that is priviledged.
[10:33] <pramz> joseph: if you really need to work _as_ root , try sudo -s
[10:33] <thegladiator> TTilus, so common applications will be using it ?
[10:33] <ompaul> mofomikeman, it gets easy hang there for a little while it is fast but there are over 600 people here :)
[10:34] <thegladiator> like say FIREFOX and the likes wud be using 108K ?
[10:34] <thegladiator> its crashing quite often
[10:34] <hkais> thegladiator: i have seen such an project, but it is very odd... do not know anymore the name
[10:34] <ompaul> thegladiator, random programs would be
[10:34] <TTilus> thegladiator: eventually somebody will be using it
[10:34] <joseph> pramz: the benefit is that when launching a priviledged program from within a non-admin session, it would prompt for root password and I could get work done fast.
[10:34] <ninnghizidha> anyone tried the "radeon"-drivers before and can give me an idea about their usability?
[10:34] <thegladiator> ah . yeah I hope the same
[10:34] <hkais> anyone else here with ati propritary driver and dual screen mode?
[10:34] <mofomikeman> so lets say my password for my user "mofomikeman" is eggs, then id logon with "sudo" and password eggs?
[10:34] <joseph> pramz: but I want not only console root/admin, but also gui dialogue prompt for root/admin
[10:34] <GoRoDeK> hi, since i update ubuntu dapper today to kernel 2.6.15-11 and upgrad all new packages i experience some major performance issues. anyone knows this kind of problem?
[10:34] <ninnghizidha> hkais: i did, and it was horrible
[10:35] <pramz> joseph: how exactly does the current way prevent you from doing that ? sudo runs the command _as_ root
[10:35] <ninnghizidha> i switched back to the ati-drivers
[10:35] <trappist> Itz: it sounds like your apache config is not the way it shipped with ubuntu, or you put your directive in the wrong place.
[10:35] <TTilus> joseph: what do you need that for?
[10:35] <hkais> ninnghizidha: have you an dualscreen setup?
[10:35] <joseph> pramz: sudo is disabled unless you belong to admin group.
[10:35] <ninnghizidha> sure, hkais ...
[10:35] <_jason> joseph, I don't know about that.  I know that enabling root supposedly 'breaks the gui admin tools' but I don't know if that means they won't give you access at all or if they request the root password.  You can try it and if it doesn't do what you like you can disable the root account again
[10:35] <ninnghizidha> but not xinerama
[10:35] <mofomikeman> is sudo a command or user logon?
[10:35] <pramz> joseph: as it should be, only certain users should have sudo enabled. And the user created during install is part of the admin group
[10:36] <hkais> ninnghizidha: is it an setup for an beamer?
[10:36] <joseph> TTilus: because the session will be as a non-admin user.  I don't want to have to log-off and re-login to get access to admin stuff.  and launching from console with funny commands is tiresome.  I want dialogue prompt for root/admin password.
[10:36] <trappist> Itz: it should go inside a block with <Directory />
[10:36] <TTilus> mofomikeman: its not logon
[10:36] <kitty_> can some one please help me... my audio wont work for KDE or Gnome... whats going on...
[10:36] <mofomikeman> so i logon as mofomikeman and type in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" without the quotes?
[10:36] <thegladiator> kitty_, do a sound test
[10:36] <TTilus> joseph: use sudo
[10:36] <odat> gnome rocks!
[10:36] <kitty_> how do i do that...
[10:36] <mofomikeman> is sudo a command or what?
[10:36] <pramz> joseph: having every user have access to su and sudo would be security nightmare, hell on servers I have the su binary chmodded 660 so only people belonging to the wheel group or admin group can run it
[10:36] <TTilus> mofomikeman: command
[10:36] <thegladiator> kitty_, in kde now ?
[10:36] <_jason> ubotu, tell mofomikeman about sudo
[10:37] <kitty_> yer
[10:37] <joseph> pramz: I have a user without sudo enabled.  I want it that way.  But I want to be able to use a SEPARATE admin account to run programs from within that non-admin users session.
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> joseph, _jason: I have root enabled, but 95% of things ask for my password like before; one or two asked for root's.
[10:37] <joseph> pramz: if it's a nightmare why does Debian stable function this way?
[10:37] <ninnghizidha> hkais, a beamer is just like any other monitor ... just modify you xorg.conf
[10:37] <TTilus> mofomikeman: try $ whoami and then $ sudo whoami
[10:37] <thegladiator> kitty_, K menu---> system settings ---> sound
[10:37] <Itz> trappist, block inside what?
[10:37] <kitty_> hang on
[10:37] <TTilus> mofomikeman: go ti?
[10:37] <thegladiator> just try a test
[10:37] <tonyyarusso> mofomikeman, Yes, saying to run something as root (SuperUser DO).
[10:37] <TTilus> mofomikeman: got it?
[10:37] <hkais> ninnghizidha: could you do an test for me?
[10:37] <mofomikeman>  is sudo a console command?
[10:37] <mofomikeman> what does it do?
[10:37] <ninnghizidha> sure, but i guess i cant help you.
[10:37] <thegladiator> what sound are you talking about ? if its mp3 etc , the format is not suported default on ubuntu
[10:38] <hkais> ninnghizidha: have you an clone mode setup?
[10:38] <ninnghizidha> no.
[10:38] <ninnghizidha> i got xinerama working.
[10:38] <joseph> pramz: as it stands now, when logged in as non-admin user, I have no way of making admin configuration changes.  I have to completely log-off the user session, interrupting his work, and then log-on as admin and then make the change.....
[10:38] <thegladiator> kitty_, tell me what are you trying to play ?
[10:38] <TTilus> mofomikeman: yes, tonyyarusso just told what it does
[10:38] <joseph> pramz:  how is that tenable?
[10:38] <hkais> ninnghizidha: what is your grafikcard?
[10:38] <kitty_> mp3, oggs everything
[10:38] <Itz> trappist,  now i changed in the config to vernus.mine.nu then it said:  NameVirtualHost vernus.mine.nu:0 has no VirtualHosts
[10:38] <TTilus> joseph: no, you dont
[10:38] <hkais> ninnghizidha: sorry which card do you have?
[10:38] <joseph> TTilus: there is another solution?
[10:38] <ninnghizidha> ati radeon 9600
[10:38] <mofomikeman> it sent me a non-functional wiki link
[10:38] <pramz> joseph: if you would tell me what type of configuration changes require you to logout and not use sudo that would help
[10:39] <odat> kitty_, kde is your problem    ooops sorry couldn't resist
[10:39] <TTilus> joseph: tell me what is the admin thing you want to do?
[10:39] <rseeber> hmmm, how do i get mp3's to work?
[10:39] <hkais> ninnghizidha: could you post me the xorg.conf?
[10:39] <TTilus> joseph: installing packages?
[10:39] <joseph> pramz: just about everythin in the System ---> Administration menu
[10:39] <kitty_> it doesnt work in Gnome either
[10:39] <ninnghizidha> wait a second.
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> joseph, Applications > System > New Login allows you to login another user without breaking the first's session.
[10:39] <thegladiator> odat, no flame wars or distro wars please thank ou
[10:39] <thegladiator> you*
[10:39] <odat> thegladiator, k sorry
[10:39] <pramz> joseph: thats funny, I can do all that without logging out of the system
[10:39] <Sansu> wassup freaks and geeks
[10:39] <joseph> tonyyarusso: I don't have an "Applications --> System" menu.
[10:39] <thegladiator> kitty_, tell me whats the app you are trying first ?
[10:40] <pramz> joseph: so unless your configuration is messed up I dont see why you would have to log off
[10:40] <mofomikeman> HELP
[10:40] <mofomikeman> what is sudo
[10:40] <joseph> pramz: how do you do it without logging out of the system?  (assuming you are logged in as user that does not belong to admin group).
[10:40] <mofomikeman> tell mofomikeman about sudo
[10:40] <thegladiator> !sudo
[10:40] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:40] <kitty_> i've got loads of different ones mainly amarok
[10:40] <mofomikeman> !sudo
[10:40] <_jason> mofomikeman, read the link ubotu sent you
[10:40] <mofomikeman> THAT LINK DOESNT WORK
[10:40] <wng> I just changed the DNS on a domain, and the changes arent showing up on my laptop running Ubuntu 5.10, On my WinXP box I did "ipconfig /flushdns" to flush the DNS cache, and the changes are appearing, is there any way to do this on Ubuntu?
[10:40] <thegladiator> yeah
[10:40] <mofomikeman> 404
[10:40] <mofomikeman> 404
[10:40] <mofomikeman> 404
[10:40] <mofomikeman> 404
[10:40] <mofomikeman> 404
[10:40] <pramz> joseph: I am in the admin group , administration tasks should be performed by the person in the admin group. Hence the reason there is an admin group
[10:40] <mofomikeman> n00b
[10:40] <TTilus> joseph: hum, you don have it?  maybe theres something weird with your conf
[10:40] <ninnghizidha> hkais, look at http://pastebin.com/499850
[10:41] <mofomikeman> that link 404's
[10:41] <_jason> mofomikeman, make it https instead of http
[10:41] <odat> kitty_, and what is the main audio driver your using   OSS, alsa, esd ???
[10:41] <joseph> pramz: but I want to have non-admin users logged on....these computers are for children students.
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> joseph, That's a Gnome thing, not sure what you're using.  Might have something similar though, if you look around for new login.
[10:41] <pramz> joseph: if the person is not in the admin group, you can start a seperate X login to login under your credentials and run the command yourself
[10:41] <kitty_> i dont know
[10:41] <hkais> ninnghizidha: thx i will try your setup
[10:41] <odat> kitty_, oh thats right kde i'm not sure how to check it in kde
[10:41] <sharn8> ok i need some help
[10:41] <odat> sorry
[10:41] <ninnghizidha> good luck.
[10:41] <mofomikeman> wow, jason, thanks, that did absolutley DICK
[10:41] <_jason> mofomikeman, actually wiki seems to be down at the moment
[10:42] <kitty_> i can go back to gnome if its easier
[10:42] <_jason> mofomikeman, watch your language
[10:42] <joseph> pramz: I shouldn't have to create a separate X session or use the "New Login" command, just to get access to admin permissions!
[10:42] <mofomikeman> ...sorry
[10:42] <mofomikeman> ok well can you PM me about sudo?
[10:42] <sharn8> i installed ubuntu on hda2 with windows me on hda1 and when i dome to the boot screen it says error 17
[10:42] <joseph> pramz: I should be able to just launch the program, and have a dialogue box come up and ask me for admin password
[10:42] <odat> kitty_, you don't have to i am biased but i can't help with kde
[10:42] <thick-glasses> I need some partition resizing help
[10:42] <_jason> mofomikeman, it means SuperUser DO, and basically lets you do stuff that requires root privileges.  The wiki should be back up soon and you can read more about it
[10:42] <kitty_> i'll be back in a sec
[10:43] <sharn8> come*|
[10:43] <mofomikeman> i dont know anything about linux
[10:43] <pramz> joseph: this might help you: http://xsu.sourceforge.net/
[10:43] <sharn8> can someone help me?
[10:43] <TTilus> joseph: or you could do the same with console, ssh -X adminuser@localhost
[10:43] <mofomikeman> that is why i came to ubuntu
[10:43] <TTilus> joseph: then do your thing
[10:43] <Itz> trappist, so it seems that it might be a problem with it not recognizing where my virtual host is? though i havent configured any?
[10:43] <sharn8> i guess i need help reinstalling grub bootloader
[10:43] <thick-glasses> I'm deleting my windows ntfs part, is there a way to resize my ubuntu root part to use that space?
[10:43] <wng> Is there  any way to flush the DNS cache on Ubuntu 5.10?
[10:43] <joseph> TTilus:  shouldn't have to ssh -X it's too complicated
[10:43] <odat> mofomikeman, what are you trying to do?
[10:43] <mofomikeman> fix my gui
[10:44] <misieh> mofomikeman: did you install ubuntu without problems?
[10:44] <BradM> lumps
[10:44] <TTilus> joseph: sorry, cant make it less complicated
[10:44] <pramz> hi mofomikeman
[10:44] <mofomikeman> i installed it without problems
[10:44] <odat> mofomikeman, how so?
[10:44] <sharn8> hello?
[10:44] <mofomikeman> but it says some stupid error about your gui x something or other couldnt load
[10:44] <Blacken> So nobody's familiar with VMware and Ubuntu?
[10:44] <sharn8> can someone help me reinsall grub bootloader?
[10:44] <joseph> pramz: that program requires access to su and the root account, which is NOT AVAILABLE to me on ubuntu.
[10:44] <tonyyarusso> joseph, What breadth of things are we classifying as too complicated?  I checked out ssh for the first time over break, and it didn't seem too bad.
[10:44] <TTilus> joseph: tried to enable root acoount?
[10:44] <misieh> then just use sudo <your command>. should work
[10:45] <Itz> trappist,  hmm i try to get help irl. hard to sort this problem out it seems like :/
[10:45] <thick-glasses> Blacken: yes, I installed it
[10:45] <misieh> try sudo -v
[10:45] <kitty_> im back in gnome now
[10:45] <pramz> joseph: you CAN set a password for root
[10:45] <pramz> joseph: under your account
[10:45] <odat> mofomikeman, reconfigure your xserver  the command is     sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:45] <pramz> the admin account that is
[10:45] <misieh> to check if you have the permissions
[10:45] <pramz> sudo passwd root
[10:45] <pramz> and voila
[10:45] <pramz> you have su and root access
[10:45] <thick-glasses> Blacken: what are you trying to do?
[10:45] <joseph> tonyyarusso: I don't want ssh just to get access to root priviledge from a non-admin session....
[10:45] <odat> kitty_, find the multimedia system selector in your preferences
[10:46] <sharn8> hello i need some help
[10:46] <kitty_> what do i do with it..
[10:46] <joseph> pramz: I can get access to root?  then when I launch a program from non-admin session, will a dialogue come up and ask for root password?
[10:46] <joseph> pramz: no because ubuntu is hardcoded for the sudo thingy
[10:46] <meepy> How do I change the language in GNOME?
[10:47] <sharn8> knock knock
[10:47] <kitty_> i tested them... nothing...
[10:47] <weedar> who's there?
[10:47] <tonyyarusso> joseph, You will be able to su in a command line and do whatever you want from there.
[10:47] <mysticyx> Does
[10:47] <mysticyx> hi?
[10:47] <sharn8> omg i need some help
[10:47] <Set> it seems I got 4.10
[10:47] <Set> is that new?
[10:47] <dieffel> hi! What kind of Web-editor do you recommend for Ubuntu/GNOME?
[10:47] <Blacken> gedit.
[10:47] <odat> kitty_, what happens when you go to sound and video then volume control?
[10:47] <pramz> joseph: at this point I dont believe you are looking for a solution to your issue but just arguing for the sake of argument (which isnt bad, just an observation).
[10:47] <_jason> dieffel, I ehar good things about nvu
[10:47] <sharn8> i have a big problem
[10:47] <trappist> joseph: configured, not hardcoded.  you can enable the root account by setting his password.  for most purposes it's not recommended, but it might not be a bad solution for you.
[10:47] <ninnghizidha> wanna have a wysiwyg-editor o r just aplain-text-editor?
[10:47] <odat> dieffel, nvu
[10:47] <_jason> ubotu, tell sharn8 about enter
[10:48] <TTilus> joseph: could sudo-chaining help?
[10:48] <dieffel> _jason, ok... how about Bluefish???
[10:48] <pramz> joseph: id the issue was administration you _could_ open a shell and su to root and run it under there
[10:48] <mysticyx> Does anyone know how to change the logg in pasword in ubunto hhh?
[10:48] <blue-frog> joseph, from non-admin session u su to your admin user then you sudo
[10:48] <_jason> dieffel, I hear good things about that too
[10:48] <mysticyx> and if yes
[10:48] <kitty_> a panel comes up
[10:48] <hkais> ninnghizidha: i will try my restart
[10:48] <odat> dieffel, NVU
[10:48] <mysticyx> please answer me :)
[10:48] <tonyyarusso> Do anyone know / have a link for how to create metapackages?
[10:48] <joseph> blue-frog: which requires dropping a console.  I want to click on menu item and have gui dialogue prompting for admin password
[10:48] <sharn8> when i start my pc up it starts grub then says error 17 and just stops
[10:48] <trappist> mysticyx: run 'passwd' in a console
[10:48] <TTilus> joseph: set everybody to be able to sudo to user Z and Z to root privileges and you only know "root" password for Z
[10:49] <TTilus> joseph: then sudo -u Z sudo yourthing
[10:49] <meepy> Nobody know how to change language in GNOME? :/
[10:49] <TTilus> joseph: (just a wild guess)
[10:49] <blue-frog> joseph, gksu
[10:49] <Blacken> meepy: Google is your friend.
[10:49] <joseph> blue-frog: gksu requires console command?
[10:49] <sharn8> i got help yesterday why cant i today?
[10:49] <joseph> blue-frog: what is gksu?
[10:49] <Blacken> sharn8: Google the damn thing. "grub error 17".
[10:50] <TTilus> joseph: and of course you can wrap that chaining inside one command
[10:50] <sharn8> good i dea
[10:50] <Blacken> sharn8: I just did and I got a very good answer from the top of the list.
[10:50] <odat> Blacken, here here
[10:50] <sharn8> ok illlook
[10:50] <odat> kitty_, ?
[10:50] <TTilus> joseph: its just another su
[10:50] <blue-frog> joseph, the thing you want..
[10:50] <tonyyarusso> meepy, System > Administration > Language Selector.
[10:50] <joseph> blue-frog: how is gksu different from su?
[10:50] <pramz> joseph: http://www.nongnu.org/gksu/
[10:50] <erUSUL> i need to get a newer version of wireless-tools than the one shipped with breezy. i have googled to no avail. anyone knows how or whre to get it?
[10:50] <kitty_> the settings are all on... but it still doesnt work...
[10:50] <TTilus> joseph: graphical
[10:50] <blue-frog> joseph, man gksu
[10:51] <_jason> joseph, you may be able to edit the shortcut and add the '--user YOUR_ADMIN_USERNAME' switch.  Haven't tried this though
[10:51] <TTilus> joseph: in your case, its no different
[10:51] <greg> ok i'm having some problems i'm tring  to install the vmtools but it says i need to be on as su well I am lol but it keeps tellin me i'm not...
[10:51] <tonyyarusso> erUSUL, apt-get upgrade will always keep you with the newest versions of things.
[10:51] <joseph> blue-frog: but why would I want to gksu instead of regular su?
[10:52] <TTilus> joseph: i tell you, its no better than regular su in your case
[10:52] <thierry_> is wiki.ubuntu.com down?
[10:52] <bakkk> I am getting a configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH when I try to ./configure FCGI
[10:52] <blue-frog> joseph, you are the one bitching about icon and not terminal, you tell me..
[10:52] <TTilus> joseph: if i have understood you situation
[10:52] <bakkk> where is cc supposed to be?
[10:52] <joseph> TTilus: gksu just switches user like su?  or does it require a command like gksu synaptic admin
[10:52] <TTilus> joseph: how do you like that sudo-chain?
[10:52] <blue-frog> joseph, man gksu
[10:53] <tonyyarusso> bakkk: Do you have gcc installed?
[10:53] <pramz> TTilus: its not about the situation, its about the behavior, there is no right answer we can give him. At this point its his best interest to ask a developer rather than people in the irc channel
[10:53] <TTilus> joseph: switches user
[10:53] <odat> kitty_, any idea what kind of audio chip?
[10:53] <bakkk> tonyyarusso, I do
[10:53] <pramz> blue-frog , TTilus : its not about the situation, its about the behavior, there is no right answer we can give him. At this point its his best interest to ask a developer rather than people in the irc channel
[10:53] <TTilus> joseph: asks pw on a gui prompt
[10:53] <timfrost> greg, is this a ubuntu install in a VMWare virtual machine?
[10:53] <tonyyarusso> bakkk, What about the rest of build-essential?
[10:53] <yggdrasil_> selinium
[10:53] <joseph> TTilus: oh, I don't care about that then.  as long as I'm on console anyway...
[10:53] <yggdrasil_> selinium you still around ?
[10:54] <selinium> yggdrasil, yep!
[10:54] <blue-frog> joseph, so joseph explain to me with a simple example what you want to achieve..
[10:54] <yggdrasil_> i was just wondering if you had any sort of interface with the px00 and linux ?
[10:54] <pozdiy>  there are few other users on the system I am logged into, how can I (nonprivileged user) get to know name of my group and names of groups other users belong to?
[10:54] <bakkk> tonyyarusso, the cd started to spin and ubuntu took my desktop =)
[10:54] <TTilus> pramz: i think sudo-chain would do the thing, but asking devels would definitely be the best option since the situation he is in, is quite common in say public libraries and schools
[10:54] <kitty_> we've had it working before but it only played oggs that had been ripped off cds... we had to reinstall it and now sound doesnt work.
[10:54] <blue-frog> pozdiy, id user
[10:54] <selinium> yggdrasil, I have been trying to get mine to work, but no. there is a site where someone has done it... One Moment...
[10:55] <joseph> blue-frog: have a non-admin user logged in.  walk-up to this session and click on the menu and run a program that requires admin priviledges, and have a gui dialogue prompt me for my admin password.
[10:55] <pozdiy> blue-frog, tnx!
[10:55] <TTilus> joseph: would sudo-chain do that?
[10:55] <blue-frog> joseph, by admin privileges you mean root privileges?
[10:55] <pramz> TTilus: yea, thats what I thought as well.
[10:56] <Eugman> can I get internet explorer using wine?
[10:56] <TTilus> joseph: sudo -u fakeroot gksudo adminapp
[10:56] <joseph> blue-frog: maybe root yes, or maybe just an admin-enabled user.
[10:56] <tonyyarusso> bakkk, So you don't know?  Okay, Applications > Accessories > Terminal, then sudo apt-get install build-essential, Enter, give it your password, and let it go.
[10:56] <pramz> Eugman: any reason you need IE on a LInux machine ?
[10:56] <hkais> ninnghizidha: no success...
[10:56] <Eugman> to use a certian website type thing
[10:56] <TTilus> pramz: i dont really know if its nice solution and does it have possible caveats, but still it could work
[10:57] <pramz> joseph: your best bet at this point is to pose the question to the developers on the mailing lists
[10:57] <joseph> blue-frog: do I make sense?
[10:57] <trappist> Eugman: I don't know if ye olde wine will do it, but crossover office will (www.codeweavers.com)
[10:57] <Eugman> You must use Internet Explorer to print your certificates.
[10:57] <selinium> yggdrasil, http://www.alfonsomartone.itb.it/bauodg.html       http://www.sbellon.de/p900.html     Take a look at these
[10:57] <gnomefreak> Eugman, FF will bring up IE pages
[10:57] <mike-e> anyone recommend any peer to peer software for my music pirating needs
[10:57] <tonyyarusso> Eugman, Which one?  The only thing I know of the NEEDS it is Windows Update.
[10:57] <pramz> joseph: since they can provide you with a reason why it isnt set up that way
[10:57] <Blacken> Woah--segfaults everywhere from the Ubuntu installer under VMware 4.
[10:57] <pramz> joseph: and if there is any possible way to implement that in the future releases
[10:57] <yggdrasil_> k let me see whats up
[10:57] <blue-frog> joseph, am sry i don't see the point. in any case you are not going to provide them with your admin password. so you will have to be in front of the screen or by ssh and you will type the password you need to type
[10:57] <Eugman> I need to print out something and it needs internet explorer ro be read
[10:57] <mike-e> anyone recommend any peer to peer software for my music pirating needs
[10:57] <TTilus> joseph: tell them you were told to do sudo chaining and ask if its "the right thing" to do or not
[10:57] <bakkk> tonyyarusso, thanks a lot, I was reading about it
[10:58] <blue-frog> joseph, meaning you will do yourself the su admin  in a terminal then sudo
[10:58] <Kyral> !pastebin
[10:58] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:58] <joseph> blue-frog: this is the way it works in debian stable, as well as other distributions.  when logged in as regular user, and attempt to access program requiring root priviledge, a dialogue comes up asking for that password.
[10:58] <tonyyarusso> Eugman, I'm doubting that claim that it needs IE to be read.  What's the URL, so people can check it out?
[10:58] <mike-e> what's a pastebin?
[10:58] <Eugman> it's in an email
[10:58] <tonyyarusso> !tell mike-e about pastebin
[10:58] <joseph> blue-frog: so it's hard for me to believe that you "dont' see the point", since this is the way it works in countless other distributions.
[10:58] <Steve^> hello people. Is ubuntu mainly gnome?
[10:58] <GhostFreeman> How can I configure the way GTK/Gnome displays fonts from Xfce?
[10:59] <pramz> Eugman: what exactly do you need IE to print out ?
[10:59] <blue-frog> joseph, then include them in the sudoers
[10:59] <ompaul> joseph, and blue-frog this is a rather busy channel can you take the conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic where you will be welcome
[10:59] <joseph> blue-frog: yes that su admin sudo thing requires console access.  what about clicking on menu item and running program?
[10:59] <trappist> Steve^: ubuntu uses gnome out of the box.  you can get kubuntu, or install kubuntu-desktop, to use kde.
[10:59] <LasseL> Steve^, yes, but there is Kubuntu too
[10:59] <yggdrasil_> mmm
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> Steve^, By default, yes.  You can get Kubuntu to have it with KDE, Xubuntu for xfce, and can download any wm of your choice if you'd rather use those.
[10:59] <yggdrasil_> blue toot hsucks
[10:59] <blue-frog> ompaul, offtopic?
[10:59] <joseph> blue-frog: can't add them to sudoers, they are student children users...'
[10:59] <gnomefreak> xubuntu is nice too :)
[10:59] <jatos> hi
[10:59] <odat> kitty_, i would find out what type of audio chip is in there to track down the problem better
[10:59] <Steve^> that sounds very complicated. Installing Gnome on my KDE Suse 10 didn't go well
[11:00] <kitty_> how do i do that?
[11:00] <ompaul> blue-frog, don't worry about the channel name it is for all sorts of discussions
[11:00] <TTilus> joseph: afaik the major reason for root to be disabled is that adminn access should be administrable without "changing the locks" everytime admin leaves the house and a new one is hired
[11:00] <Steve^> I guess I'll try gnome and I can always start again
[11:00] <trappist> Steve^: I've done it a zillion times.  works flawlessly.
[11:00] <gnomefreak> Steve^, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop is eassy
[11:00] <ompaul> blue-frog, including on topic ones :)-
[11:00] <Steve^> gnomefreak: but what happens to the gnome bits?
[11:00] <blue-frog> joseph, then you are in charge, they only run unpriviledge apps
[11:00] <jmhodges> in a block, if i want to pass on an item in the array, do i just check if its nil and if so toss in 'next'
[11:00] <jmhodges> i seem to be experiencing problems with that
[11:00] <gnomefreak> Steve^, nothing they stay there and work :)
[11:01] <odat> Steve^, just install regular ol ubuntu and be done with it  :)
[11:01] <jmhodges> whoopos, wrong chat
[11:01] <bakkk> tonyyarusso, its working! thanks again, I will spend some time on docs next week end
[11:01] <TTilus> joseph: have you tried if the sudo-chain does what you need?
[11:01] <joseph> blue-frog: yes, but I may need to walk-up to their session and run admin programs, in order to configure something-or-the-other.
[11:01] <gnomefreak> on the log-in screen you can choose what desktop you want to use Steve^
[11:01] <Steve^> triple booting is a reasonable thing to do?
[11:01] <tonyyarusso> Steve^, You don't need to start again if you don't like Gnome.  Just add something else, and choose it from the Sessions menu.
[11:01] <tonyyarusso> bakkk, Good stuff.
[11:01] <Steve^> ok, you guys are being too helpful
[11:01] <joseph> TTilus: I'm happy with su and then sudo :)
[11:01] <Steve^> it's not normal
[11:01] <gnomefreak> i am what i call normal
[11:01] <gnomefreak> i think
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> Steve^, Meh, I don't mind being a little abnormal now and then.
[11:02] <gnomefreak> steve i have 4 desktops for ubuntu
[11:02] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, Which four?
[11:02] <gnomefreak> gnome kde xfce and enlightemnet and blackbox make that 5
[11:03] <Steve^> I was just browsing over my magazine and it said something about HDDs having up to 4 primary partitions. I presume XP and Suse only use 2 of those and I can install ubuntu with no problems
[11:03] <gnomefreak> something like that lol
[11:03] <dribble> hey all - just decided to give ubuntu a shot, however, upon finishing the install it seems the gstreamer libraries are borked.  totem can't play mpegs, rythmbox reports "unexpected end of stream" for all radio stations, yet the relevent gstreamer libs ARE installed.  i'm at somewhat of a loss.  any ubuntu gurus wanna lend a hand?
[11:03] <odat> gnomefreak, ever use ede?
[11:03] <gnomefreak> suse i think uses 2 partions windows 1 and ubuntu 2
[11:03] <gnomefreak> odat, no
[11:04] <Blacken> You can make logical partitions for, say, swaps.
[11:04] <Blacken> And if you have enough RAM (512+), you probably don't need a swap.
[11:04] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell dribble about restricted
[11:04] <odat> gnomefreak, looks great for older hardware,  i personally don't see a giant difference between xfce and gnome   at least no enough to warrant the lack of features
[11:04] <Blacken> odat: Take a gander at Fluxbox?
[11:05] <wng> Is there an easy way to clear the DNS cache in Ubuntu?
[11:05] <odat> Blacken, i like destkop icons and not desktop icons made with little hacks lol
[11:05] <kitty_> how do i find out what audio chip im using
[11:05] <gnomefreak> <<can live without icons
[11:05] <ninnghizidha> hkais, "no sucees" at what? :-D
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> Steve^, Definitely.  I have 4 primaries and 5 logical right now.
[11:05] <gnomefreak> brb
[11:05] <dribble> gnomefreak, i'll check the link.  thanks.
[11:06] <Steve^> well, no coursework for a while, so if things go bad, I won't be too screwed
[11:06] <odat> gnomefreak, yes but i set a lot of these linux systems up for people that aren't computer savvy in any way possible so desktop icons are a must
[11:08] <Steve^> I guess KDE programs won't run in gnome very well?
[11:09] <gnomefreak> Steve^, they run fine in gnome
[11:09] <trappist> they'll run, but they'll start a good chunk of kde
[11:09] <odat> Steve^, i'm trying not to say anything
[11:09] <Steve^> odat: you are failing :P
[11:09] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:09] <odat> lol
[11:09] <Steve^> I just use Kontact quite alot and would need a nice replacement
[11:09] <cafuego> Steve^: They run just as well in Gnome as they do in KDE.
[11:09] <NightwishFreak> anyone using PPC?
[11:09] <tonyyarusso> Steve^, Sometimes it depends on the program.  They're designed to run best in KDE, but I've run a few in Gnome and they were just fine.
[11:10] <cafuego> NightwishFreak: Yes.
[11:10] <dribble> gnomefreak, the link ain't wharkin'
[11:11] <_jason> the wiki is currently down (for me at least)
[11:11] <kitty_> can some one tell me how to find what audio chip im using
[11:11] <alexissoft> hi
[11:11] <NightwishFreak> cafuego, right on, i just installed breezy on my powerbook.
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> Trying to make sure I've covered the bases for non-defaults: Flash, w32, Java, what else?
[11:11] <cafuego> kitty_: 'lspci' should tell you.
[11:11] <gnomefreak> dribble, if you add one of Seveas repositories in your sources.list file than most of your multimedia needs are in synaptic
[11:11] <ompaul> _jason, it is up
[11:11] <odat> kitty_, i think lspci should do it
[11:11] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell dribble about Seveas
[11:11] <odat> cafuego, son of a
[11:11] <odat> lol
[11:11] <yggdrasil_> selinium i wish we could install lin on this phone :(
[11:12] <yggdrasil_> that woudl rock
[11:12] <yggdrasil_> might eve roxor
[11:12] <selinium> indeed!
[11:12] <cafuego> NightwishFreak: B&W G3 here and a Mac Mini.
[11:12] <yggdrasil_> gay symbian
[11:12] <cafuego> Waiting for decent wifi support before the iBook gets it too.
[11:12] <yggdrasil_> its so lame
[11:12] <Blacken> Gawd...anyone know if there's a better installer in the pipe?
[11:13] <cafuego> Blacken: By better I assume you mean "with buttons and mouse support" ?
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> I actually kind of liked the simplicity of the installer, but maybe that's just me.
[11:13] <selinium> yggdrasil,  But i am still earning my Geek point with SSH and IRC through the old P900 :)  Only pressure from users will get the manufacturers to release linux compatible stuff....
[11:13] <kitty_> in using creative labs SB live audio chip... how do i get it working
[11:13] <Blacken> cafuego: Bingo. This one has trouble in VMware, as does RedHat's text installer; oddly enough, RHL's GUI installer does not.
[11:13] <NightwishFreak> cafuego: wi-fi?
[11:13] <cafuego> kitty_: 'sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1'
[11:14] <Ophiocus> yeah i want a computer with a gui that consist of one big red button that says "do my work for me"
[11:14] <B|4ckm0r3> please someone help me!!!Nvidia drivers are killing me...they don't work at all!this is my xorg.log http://pastebin.com/499844 it doesn't have any EE line but X crashes and the screen goes black!
[11:14] <cafuego> Blacken: The curses installs work fine in vmware for me.
[11:14] <Blacken> cafuego: Well, the install has borked five times in a row, so maybe it's my VMware, but hey.
[11:14] <cafuego> Blacken: I think that could be said to be a vmware issue anyway, not an installer one.
[11:14] <kitty_> it didnt do anything
[11:14] <Blacken> cafuego: Sure, it's a VMware issue--but a GUI install is still nice.
[11:14] <cafuego> kitty_: good, that means the driver loaded :-)
[11:15] <Blacken> cafuego: Any idea why 5.10 might be giving me "cannot install /target/"
[11:15] <Blacken> errors on VMware?
[11:15] <kitty_> how come im experiencing no audio playback
[11:15] <cafuego> kitty_: Now have a look in System -> Preferences -> Sound
[11:16] <cafuego> kitty_: Is the SBLive selected there?
[11:16] <Lord_Athur> hi, i've installed the ubuntu server... can I change the color of the virtual terminals (tty)? from black to blue :P
[11:16] <kitty_> yeah
[11:16] <cafuego> kitty_: Ok, make sure the sound volume is set to non-zero
[11:16] <LiNoH> how can i put a trash icon in the gnome desktop?
[11:16] <kitty_> done
[11:16] <cafuego> kitty_: Sound yet?
[11:16] <sharn8> uhg this is driving me nuts
[11:17] <Lord_Athur> hey all , i've installed the ubuntu server... can I change the color of the virtual terminals (tty)? from black to blue :P
[11:17] <kitty_> hang on
[11:17] <_willcooke_> sharn8, steering wheel in your underpants?
[11:17] <blue-frog> LiNoH, applications>system tools> gconf editor >nautilus > desktop
[11:17] <cafuego> LiNoH: sudo apt-get install gtweakui; System -> Preferences -> gtweakui - Nautilus.
[11:17] <sharn8> pretty close yeah
[11:18] <kitty_> nope... not working
[11:18] <odat> kitty_, go back to that multimedia selector and select alsa for output and then restart your computer and if that doens't work select the next one and restart and so on
[11:18] <sharn8> i cant a bootloader to work
[11:18] <LiNoH> how can i put a trash icon in the gnome desktop?
[11:18] <cafuego> odat: THis isn't #windows, you know.
[11:18] <blue-frog> LiNoH, applications>system tools> conf editor >nautilus > desktop
[11:18] <cafuego> odat: We don't restart computers willy-nilly.
[11:18] <LiNoH> blue-frog: thanks
[11:19] <uFo-Z> hi all. i have a question. i use mingw32 for cross compiling some source. sdl is working. now, is there something i could use to install dev files to my normal include and also to my crosscompile include/lib directories ?
[11:19] <B|4ckm0r3> please someone help me!!!Nvidia drivers are killing me...they don't work at all!this is my xorg.log http://pastebin.com/499844 it doesn't have any EE line but X crashes and the screen goes black!anyone?
[11:19] <sharn8> can someone walkthrough on installing lilo or sometihng?
[11:19] <blue-frog> LiNoH, apps before nautilus
[11:19] <odat> cafuego, i'm telling her that from experience the audio setting don't take affect until a restart
[11:19] <odat> that simple
[11:19] <woodgrain> hey, how can I make icons?
[11:19] <cafuego> odat: Unload module, load module.
[11:19] <Profichilla> normally, they do without any restarting.
[11:19] <cafuego> odat: That said, the alsa sblive mopdule is automagically loaded anyway.
[11:19] <LiNoH> blue-frog: thanks!! :] 
[11:20] <sharn8> when i start my pc up i get error 17
[11:20] <sharn8> and it wont do anyhing
[11:20] <ompaul> B|4ckm0r3, what does >>sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg<< do for you?
[11:20] <odat> cafuego, so what i have an alsa module loaded upstairs but only the oss output selection produces sound not the alsa setting
[11:20] <B|4ckm0r3> ompaul:  it does reconfigure xorg ompaul :D i've tried once...but nothing useful...
[11:20] <odat> upstairs= other computer
[11:21] <Blacken> cafuego: ...the installer keeps locking at "Verifying zlib1g" on VMware 4. Have you ever encountered/heard of this sort of problem?
[11:21] <B|4ckm0r3> ompaul:  i've tried bot apt driver and nvidia official drivers (8178)
[11:21] <B|4ckm0r3> they install correctly
[11:21] <cafuego> odat: Then the system is using oss-on-alsa emulation. No restarts are required to switch those.
[11:22] <B|4ckm0r3> but when x starts everything goes black and i've to reboot (i can't switch to console...)
[11:22] <cafuego> Blacken: Did you burn the install cd yourself?
[11:22] <ompaul> B|4ckm0r3, there are two sets of offical nvidia drivers depending on chip of the card
[11:22] <Blacken> cafuego: Neg, these are ordered CDs.
[11:22] <vincenz> Hello
[11:22] <Blacken> I've never used Ubuntu before. My school had a box, I swiped one.
[11:22] <odat> cafuego, then why does it work with esd but not alsa?
[11:22] <cafuego> Blacken: .. coz it sounds like a corruption. Can you check the md5sum of the one you're using?
[11:22] <cafuego> odat: karma?
[11:22] <vincenz> I'm about to install ubuntu as dualboot on my laptop, any suggestiosn
[11:22] <odat> cafuego, right
[11:22] <Blacken> cafeugo: Lemme see if I remember how to do that...
[11:22] <B|4ckm0r3> ompaul:  i've a geforce 2 mx400 i've read that the standard drivers are ok for me!
[11:23] <cafuego> Blacken: There should be an option in the advanced install menu on the cd.
[11:23] <Blacken> cafuego: Ah, there is something. Thanks.
[11:23] <dribble> mm, apt-get is nice
[11:23] <ompaul> B|4ckm0r3, I don't know if I read it on the ubuntu page or the nvidia site, I presume that you have read the output of !nvidia ?
[11:23] <Blacken> It seems to check it automagically.
[11:24] <Blacken> This is really, really pissing me off, though. I'm tempted to go get DSL and just build my own distro.
[11:24] <cafuego> Blacken: Not the CD, it verifies the packages though... then it might break if one fails.
[11:24] <dribble> having a crisis of gentoo loyalty
[11:24] <cafuego> Blacken: It's not impossible that you swiped a dud ;-)
[11:24] <B|4ckm0r3> ompaul:  !nvidia is just a call to nvidia-xconfig
[11:24] <vincenz> ...
[11:24] <Blacken> cafuego: I'm sure, but I'm a Windows user who dabbles in Linux.  I want the damned thing to Just Work.
[11:25] <sharn8> same as above
[11:25] <Blacken> cafuego: If I could get the Christing thing working right, I'd just install DSL.
[11:25] <dribble> cafuego, haha - went debian->gentoo.  just installed ubuntu on an old PIII i found lyin' around.  And I like what i see!
[11:25] <Blacken> Or if I had a spare box around.
[11:25] <ompaul> B|4ckm0r3, are we at cross purposes have a look at the message from the bot
[11:25] <cafuego> Blacken: I'm sure 99 out of 100 cds do "just work" :-)  Just swipe another one, it's what they're for.
[11:25] <gfxstyler> hi
[11:25] <cafuego> dribble: That's exactly what I mean.
[11:26] <vincenz> Any hints for me before I try to install ubuntu dualboot on my laptop
[11:26] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  dude, do we have to tweak out our ubuntus?
[11:26] <cafuego> vincenz: got wifi?
[11:26] <student> is it correct that firefox is version 1.0.7?
[11:26] <vincenz> cafuego: yeah
[11:26] <tonyyarusso> vincenz, Yeah, see !dualboot
[11:26] <student> how do I update firefox?
[11:26] <vincenz> !dualboot
[11:26] <ubotu> from memory, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[11:26] <cafuego> vincenz: what chip?
[11:26] <vincenz> cafuego: it's a latitude dell d610
[11:26] <cafuego> student: 1.0.7 is currect, yes.
[11:26] <gfxstyler> is there a special reason why when i install the newest ati drivers (8.20.8) from the ati homepage a ati 8.16.20 module gets build on a fresh ubuntu install? so without fglrx installed ever before
[11:27] <staticsage> 1.5 is current...?
[11:27] <tonyyarusso> vincenz, And google linux on laptops, and look around on some of those sites to see if anyone has tried it on your model.
[11:27] <cafuego> vincenz: Ah ok, just pcmcia then? Should all just work.
[11:27] <student> cafuego: when will there be an update in breezy?
[11:27] <vincenz> cafuego: iti ain't pcmia
[11:27] <cafuego> student: Never :-)
[11:27] <vincenz> tonyyarusso: they have
[11:27] <tonyyarusso> !tell student about firefox15
[11:27] <vincenz> can I resize my NTFS
[11:27] <vincenz> ?
[11:27] <student> cafuego: seriously never?
[11:27] <tonyyarusso> vincenz, Yep.
[11:27] <cafuego> vincenz: Yes
[11:27] <vincenz> safely?
[11:27] <tonyyarusso> vincenz, Were they successful?
[11:27] <vincenz> tonyyarusso: yes
[11:27] <Blacken> vincenz: Yes. Defrag first to be safe, however.
[11:27] <cafuego> student: indeed. it's a stable release, so only gets ecurity fixes, no major upgrades.
[11:27] <tonyyarusso> vincenz, Yes, I've done it on two.
[11:27] <vincenz> Blacken: did that ;)
[11:28] <vincenz> ok
[11:28] <vincenz> well
[11:28] <Blacken> vincenz: Then you should be fine.
[11:28] <student> cafuego: oh man, I'm dissapointed.
[11:28] <Stormx2> Whats wrong with 1.5?
[11:28] <vincenz> ok
[11:28] <vincenz> time to try :)
[11:28] <cafuego> student: What is wrong with 1.0.7?
[11:28] <B|4ckm0r3> ompaul:  i've read them all!i've tried everything...i don't know what to do!
[11:28] <student> cafuego: it's .43 less than 1.5?
[11:28] <student> cafuego: just kidding
[11:28] <Blacken> Of course, the suspected broken package is at the end of the alphabet...
[11:28] <cafuego> !tell student -about ff1.5
[11:29] <cafuego> student: Check the link ubotu gave you, it has a howto for getting 1.5 on breezy safely.
[11:29] <vincenz> what do you reccomend as partition sizes on 80gb
[11:29] <vincenz> and that site of !dualboot won't work
[11:29] <student> cafuego: okay I am checking it now thanks
[11:29] <tonyyarusso> student, Which I actually just did again; it's not too bad.
[11:29] <sharn8> can i make a boot floppy from my live cd for my normal ubuntu?
[11:29] <m> hey
[11:29] <m> can anyone help me with a wlan problem?
[11:29] <cafuego> vincenz: 5gb absolute minimum for Ubuntu. I suggest 5Gb for / and 10GB (or more) for /home.
[11:30] <vincenz> 5gb is enough??
[11:30] <student> tonyyarusso: you did what again and it's not too bad?
[11:30] <sharn8> can i make a boot cd for my normal ubuntu in my live?
[11:30] <staticsage> i'm looking to install bnc on ubuntu, i can't find a package using apt-get and i can't find too much documentation
[11:30] <cafuego> vincenz: The base is 2GB.
[11:30] <vincenz> ah
[11:30] <m> im using a dlink dwl-g650+
[11:30] <gfxstyler> why 5gb? my ubuntu used to use only 2gb
[11:30] <cafuego> vincenz: (and that includes Office)
[11:30] <sharn8> ugh
[11:30] <sharn8> fdgjfdgjs
[11:30] <sharn8> fd
[11:30] <sharn8> f
[11:30] <psusi> it's good to have some free space
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> student, Get ff1.5
[11:30] <ompaul> B|4ckm0r3, I can't remember what to do with nvidia (don't have one myself), but perhaps start again, as it is a standard set of commands - so unless you card is documented as not working which I doubt it will just be slow about it
[11:30] <cafuego> gfxstyler: Space for more kernels and additional software.
[11:30] <m> wich driver do i have to use for wpa supplicant?
[11:30] <student> tonyyarusso: and it's better?
[11:30] <vincenz> 20gb ntfs, 1 gb swap, 5gb /, 10gb /home ... still leaves me with space
[11:30] <erUSUL> i need to get a newer version of wireless-tools than the one shipped with breezy. i have googled to no avail. anyone knows how or whre to get it?
[11:31] <robbt> can anyone tell me why the mod_mime module isn't included anywhere in apache2 ?
[11:31] <cafuego> vincenz: Just make /home however much you have left.
[11:31] <Blacken> erUSUL: Did you check synaptic?
[11:31] <vincenz> how about a fat32
[11:31] <vincenz> for sharing
[11:31] <Blacken> vincenz: Got a flash-drive?
[11:31] <psusi> is there a reason you are going for a seperate /home?
[11:31] <tonyyarusso> student, In some respects.  If 1.07 was doing it for you, then you probably don't need to, but it seems a little bit faster, and has some cool new extensions, which I am WAY too amused by.
[11:31] <cafuego> vincenz: You can make XP read and write ext3.
[11:31] <vincenz> cafuego: you can?
[11:31] <vincenz> I meant for my music
[11:31] <Blacken> cafuego: You can? Stably?
[11:31] <cafuego> vincenz: Yep
[11:31] <tonyyarusso> erUSUL, What's apt-cache policy wireless-tools tell you right now?
[11:31] <gfxstyler> works for me too (ext3 on windows)
[11:31] <cafuego> Blacken: Never failed for me sofar. ext2fsd.sf.net
[11:31] <vincenz> cafuego: I thought only ext2fs
[11:31] <student> cafuego is a debian guru
[11:32] <cafuego> student: you'
[11:32] <tonyyarusso> vincenz, I have a fat for sharing, I think I made it about 5G.
[11:32] <cafuego> re too kind
[11:32] <psusi> ext3 IS ext2... just with a journal... ignore the journal and you can use it as ext2 just fine
[11:32] <dts> I just installed the newest Ubuntu and it's taking a lot longer to boot on my machine (1 ghz, 500 mb ram) than it used to, has there been any major changes that could make the boot process significantly longer?
[11:32] <vincenz> put swap as last partition?
[11:32] <psusi> just will require a full fsck and might clobber som data if the system crashes or power fails while accessing it
[11:32] <cafuego> vincenz: Put it wherever you like :-)
[11:32] <tonyyarusso> psusi, What exactly does the journal bit mean anyway?  Never really understood that.
[11:33] <brian_> someone
[11:33] <gfxstyler> is there a special reason why when i install the newest ati drivers (8.20.8) from the ati homepage a ati 8.16.20 module gets build on a fresh ubuntu install?
[11:33] <vincenz> how about: [20gb ntfs] [5 gb /] [20gb /home] [20gb fat32] [1gb swap] 
[11:33] <Lord_Athur> hey all , i've installed the ubuntu server... can I change the color of the virtual terminals (tty)? from black to blue :P
[11:33] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: The journal is a bit like a log of changes made to the filesystem. Any changes get added to the journal, then written to disk and removed from the journal.
[11:33] <psusi> tonyyarusso: it's a scratch place for the kernel to make note about important changes it is about to make, so that if it doesn't get to finish making those changes, it knows about it when it boots up again adn can either finish the changes, or undo them... so the change either gets all done, or not done at all
[11:33] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: if you crash, all that needs to happen is a journal replay, so any pending changes get processed.
[11:34] <vincenz> wish me luck
[11:34] <tonyyarusso> Lord_Athur, I believe it is indeed possible, but don't know how myself.
[11:34] <tonyyarusso> vincenz, Good luck!
[11:34] <vincenz> I'll remain logged in here, cause it's an ssh -> screen on desktop
[11:34] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, psusi: Wow.  This thing is smart, that's a really cool idea.
[11:35] <sharn> can someone help me get to the spot where i edit where grub loads from?
[11:35] <tonyyarusso> sharn, You mean editing its menu options?  sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:36] <rseeber> hello
[11:36] <gfxstyler> hi
[11:36] <psusi> tonyyarusso: the net result is certain operations are slowed down a bit ( because more data has to be written to the disk, once to the journal, and once to the real location ) but if the system crashes, you don't end up with a damaged filesystem
[11:36] <sharn> ty ill see
[11:36] <psusi> and don't have to wait an hour for fsck to try and repair it on the next boot
[11:36] <dooglus> Lord_Athur: "setterm -background blue"
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> psusi, Sounds like a worthwhile sacrifice to me.
[11:37] <rseeber> i have a ntfs partition that i'd like to be able to use, i have it mounted at /media/cdrive but i can't access it, it says it's read only and i can't change any privledges
[11:37] <sharn> it opened gedit but there is othing there
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, It's that easy?
[11:37] <lightbright> whenever I get a message an update is available and chose install: It gives me ERRORS saying servers cant be found etc!  Any fix?
[11:37] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: it's quite a bright blue.  only 8 colours are allowed: black, red, green, yellow, blue, magenta, cyan, or white
[11:37] <ReWind^> Hi:)
[11:37] <wilde> sera a tutti!c' qualcuno che parli italiano'??
[11:38] <psusi> tonyyarusso: I can't wait for the reiser4 filesystem to get merged into the stock kernel... it uses a wandering journal so it gets the benefits without the slowdown.. looks really cool
[11:38] <wilde> heiiiiiiii
[11:38] <wilde> qualcuno legge??
[11:38] <ReWind^> I'm having a few problems with my fresh Ubuntu install, whenever I log in nothing happens, but I can log in with the emergency terminal and start programs manually.. Anyone have any experience with this?
[11:38] <wilde> hol
[11:38] <dooglus> !it
[11:38] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:38] <foxiness> hi , from long time now i can not see flash on ff ,i read the wiki about how to install flash but it the same big pic of empty flash ,am using ff 1.5 how can help me on this please :)?
[11:38] <xtant_26> hello}
[11:39] <Ophiocus> !es
[11:39] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:39] <xtant_26> please give me the winmac_fstab url
[11:39] <ompaul> somone asked about starting something in X sorry can't find your username - in ubuntu - system preferences sessions
[11:39] <dooglus> Ophiocus: I'm pretty sure that was Italian he was speaking
[11:39] <Pygi> !hr
[11:39] <ubotu> somebody said hr was za hrvatski dodjite na #ubuntu-hr, da ne zbunjujete engleze.
[11:39] <foxiness> is the flash not work on last ff 1.5 ?
[11:39] <wilde> ok
[11:40] <Ophiocus> you are outstandingly right,. my call was for wilde
[11:40] <wilde> I can speak in english
[11:40] <Ophiocus> ;)
[11:40] <Pygi> lol ubotu :P
[11:40] <tonyyarusso> foxiness, It was fine for me, but doesn't come installed by default.
[11:40] <xtant_26> anyone please give me the winmac_fstab url
[11:40] <lightbright> whats a uptodate and LATEST Breezy sources.list that works?
[11:40] <ReWind^> ompaul: That was probably me, I've got X-Chat up and running now, but I have to start everything manually, and I don't know where everything is, lol
[11:40] <foxiness> tonyyarusso, how you get it please?
[11:40] <wilde> who can help me???
[11:40] <ompaul> in ubuntu - system preferences sessions there is a startup tab there
[11:40] <Lord_Athur> dooglus, it's the wrong command
[11:40] <dooglus> Lord_Athur: it is?
[11:41] <Ophiocus> wilde, if you dont ask a question, no one can help you
[11:41] <ReWind^> ompaul: Cool, you woldn't happen to know where I could find the start-menu lookalike binary though, I don't have it running atm
[11:41] <Jeeves_Moss> dpkg:  transfer from one Samba share to another, howto
[11:41] <gfxstyler> well seems that no one here uses the 8.20.9 ati fglrx driver...
[11:41] <ReWind^> ompaul: Just an xterm, firefox and x-chat
[11:41] <wilde> yes
[11:41] <dooglus> Lord_Athur: you asked how to change the background colour, and I told you a command that does it.  how is that "the wrong command" pray tell?
[11:41] <wilde> yes
[11:41] <wilde> sorry
[11:41] <wilde> ok
[11:41] <rseeber> how can i get privledges to access an NTFS folder as my user and not just root
[11:41] <xtant_26> I need to mount the windows partition
[11:41] <wilde> I have only two weeks ubuntu
[11:41] <sharn> hi i just installed ubuntu and when i start my pc up it just says error 17 and stops can someone help me?? (BTW: i am in live on the pc in question)
[11:41] <wilde> and
[11:41] <Lord_Athur> dooglus, it is :D
[11:42] <tonyyarusso> foxiness, Um, it might depend on your repos, but you can apt-cache search flash, and look for things that look good to install.  (I have PLF enabled, so I'd have to check which ones are from them and which are official.)
[11:42] <wilde> I can't use the cam in the messenger
[11:42] <ompaul> wilde, ask it all on one line no enters it is easier for someone to follow - thus easier for them to help you
[11:42] <dooglus> rseeber: you mount it with option "umask=0"
[11:42] <wilde> ok
[11:42] <Jeeves_Moss> wilde:  there is a channel for Ubuntu.  #ubuntu
[11:42] <sharn> hi i just installed ubuntu and when i start my pc up it just says error 17 and stops can someone help me?? (BTW: i am in live on the pc in question)
[11:42] <rseeber> what option do i use in the /etc/fstab
[11:43] <Jeeves_Moss> sharn:  does it give you that error when you boot, or when the OS is up and stable?
[11:43] <wilde> is this, or not?
[11:43] <dooglus> rseeber: "umask=0"
[11:43] <Ophiocus> Jeeves_Moss, you travel in a lot of channels dont you?
[11:43] <rseeber> ok, thanks
[11:43] <ompaul> ReWind^, xchat, firefox, and xterm but you may prefer gnome-terminal
[11:43] <wilde> jeeves
[11:43] <sharn> Jeeves_moss: when i boot
[11:43] <dooglus> rseeber: the line I use is:
[11:43] <dooglus> /dev/hda1   /mnt/c           ntfs        noauto,umask=0 0      0
[11:43] <Jeeves_Moss> Ophiocus:  yes I do.  I run a mix of Ubuntu and Debian.  all my main servers are Debian, my laptop and desktop are ubuntulog
[11:43] <tonyyarusso> foxiness, Looks like mainly universe and multiverse, including flashplayer-mozilla and flashplugin-nonfree.
[11:44] <_Antar_> hey guys
[11:44] <wilde> hei
[11:44] <Ophiocus> cool, now look at the channel name
[11:44] <Ophiocus> :D
[11:44] <sharn> jeeves_Moss:i think grub is not cinfigured right orsometihng
[11:44] <wilde> nobody give me an answer
[11:44] <wilde> ?
[11:44] <Ophiocus> wilde i have not tried to plug a usb device yet
[11:44] <yggdrasil_> anyone here play flightgear ?
[11:44] <Ophiocus> but i bet thats what you need to do
[11:44] <Jeeves_Moss> sharn:  just a sec.  I'll go look @ my error logs.
[11:44] <_Antar_> can anyone here tell me how to remove modules i dont need?
[11:44] <Ophiocus> let me see if i find a link for you
[11:44] <ReWind^> ompaul: Ah yeah, that looks nice:) Looking around to find the basic gnome-interface still, think I have found the binaries now but there's a ton of them so troubling a bit finding the right ones
[11:45] <foxiness> tonyyarusso, i have this one after i read about it from wiki but not work with me
[11:45] <Jeeves_Moss> sharn: I think its because your BIOS dosen't like the size of your disk.
[11:45] <ompaul> _Antar_, modules should only load if needed
[11:45] <sharn> oh it could be
[11:45] <_Antar_> I want to get rid of the ones i am not using
[11:45] <_Antar_> that i will never use
[11:45] <xtant_26> Seveas, I need to mount my windows partition
[11:45] <dooglus> _Antar_: I wouldn't bother if I was you
[11:45] <Jeeves_Moss> sharn: its because grub can't mount the selected partition.  Go run LVM when you partition your diskes
[11:46] <Pygi> !ntfs
[11:46] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[11:46] <_Antar_> you arnt me, do you know a way to do it?
[11:46] <ReWind^> ompaul: Awesome, gnome-panel did the trick, have menus now, checking the settings you mentioned
[11:46] <ompaul> _Antar_, rmmod is the program
[11:46] <dooglus> _Antar_: "rm" will get rid of them
[11:46] <Seveas> !tell xtant_26 about diskmounter
[11:46] <_Antar_> thank you for the information
[11:46] <sharn> Jeeves_Moss: i have a 250gb hard drive with windows ME on hda1 (130gb) and ybuntu on hda2 (113 gb)
[11:46] <dooglus> ompaul: rmmod gets rid of modules you *are* using
[11:46] <_Antar_> so...
[11:46] <Jeeves_Moss> sharn:  so M$ is @ the start of your drive?
[11:47] <wilde> ophiocus:how I do for speak to you only?
[11:47] <sharn> yes
[11:47] <xtant_26> seveas, thank you
[11:47] <lightbright> whats a uptodate and LATEST Breezy sources.list that works?
[11:47] <_Antar_> i dont want to get rid of the ones i am using
[11:47] <j3di> so somehow i fucked myself out of the sudoers file
[11:47] <_Antar_> ....(sigH)....
[11:47] <Seveas> !tell lightbright about sources
[11:47] <Ophiocus> you cant
[11:47] <dooglus> j3di: reboot into rescue mode to fuck yourself back into it
[11:47] <tonyyarusso> wilde: /msg nick Your message here, but always ask for permission first.
[11:47] <Ophiocus> :)
[11:47] <sharn> Jeeves_Moss: yes
[11:47] <j3di> how?
[11:47] <Ophiocus> well yes you can,. but you have to register a nick first
[11:48] <dooglus> j3di: if you use grub you should see an option at boot time for "rescue" or something like that
[11:48] <j3di> k
[11:48] <dooglus> j3di: once there, undo whatever you did to the sudoers file
[11:48] <dooglus> j3di: use "visudo" to edit the file rather than editing it manually
[11:48] <ReWind^> ompaul: I can't seem to start the sessions settings, does it depend on anything that Ubuntu would normally start in X on a functioning system?
[11:48] <Jeeves_Moss> sharn:  Every time I tried to do that, it caused my problems.  If I rember corectly, I had to install M$, resize the partition with partition magic, then toss in the Ubuntu CD.  Once it started to chew on things, I had to make sure that it ignored the M$ partition, installed Grub, and made sure th BIOS could read a disk that large.
[11:48] <wilde> I have some problem to follow the discussion
[11:49] <wilde> is the first time that I speak in this chat
[11:49] <wilde> and I don't know if is possible to speak in mp
[11:49] <psusi> ubuntu will resize ntfs just fine... I don't trust partition magic any further than I can throw it... seen it trash too many drives
[11:49] <bryanl> i need one of those new macs
[11:49] <bryanl> real bad
[11:49] <dooglus> wilde: if you type "/query dooglus" you'll get a separate tab for talking to just one person
[11:49] <sharn> Jeeves_Moss: now you have me scared because i dont have a clue how todo that
[11:49] <Prozac> anybody able to help me with oidentd? i cant get it to work :(
[11:49] -lilo(i=levin@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin)- [Server Notice]  Hi all. Reminder: we're going to be restarting the server you're on, brown.freenode.net, as soon as we get the user count down more. Please help us speed up the process by disconnecting, and reconnecting to chat.freenode.net, first chance you get. Thanks, and thank you for using freenode!
[11:50] <Jeeves_Moss> psusi:  I'm just telling you from MY personal experiance.  I did it while I was sitting in a physics lecture.
[11:50] <Seveas> Prozac, try pidentd, works out of the box
[11:50] <wilde> ak, let me try........
[11:50] <Prozac> s
[11:50] <Prozac> Seveas but can i set a user defined reply?
[11:50] <Seveas> yes
[11:50] <Prozac> hmmm how?
[11:50] <Jeeves_Moss> sharn:  just figure out if your BIOS can handle the large drive (read past the 8Gb mark), then have fun resizing your partition.  Once thats done, then its a peice of cake.
[11:50] <chrisx1> .repos
[11:51] <j3di> ok i found a recovery mode
[11:51] <j3di> is that it?
[11:51] <sharn> Jeeves_Moss: so how can i find out if my bois can do that?
[11:51] <chrisx1> Whats The Latest Ubuntu?
[11:51] <wilde> "/query ophiocus"
[11:51] <dooglus> j3di: did you reboot?
[11:51] <navarone> sharn the ubuntu installer can resize partition that windows is on to make room for itself...jsut make sure you have defragged windows first
[11:51] <j3di> yes i rebooted
[11:51] <Ophiocus> without the quotes
[11:51] <dooglus> wilde: without the quotes (")
[11:51] <ReWind^> There wouldn't happen to be any startup logs for X slushing around on my drive that someone could point me to? :)
[11:51] <Jeeves_Moss> when the system boots, copy down the make and BIOS revision, then google.
[11:51] <wilde> ok ok ahahahahhhh
[11:51] <sharn> Jeeves_Moss: i cant get into windows now
[11:51] <j3di> ok i'm root
[11:52] <j3di> so how do i get myself so i can be a sudoer again?
[11:52] <Ophiocus> and as i said,. unregistered users cannot send private messages
[11:52] <dooglus> j3di: you're IRCing as root?  that would get you evicted from some freenode channels I could mention :)
[11:52] <wilde> what's happened???
[11:52] <sharn> Jeeves_Moss: so do i have to put it n the spot ms is?
[11:52] <dooglus> j3di: first you need to work out what's wrong
[11:52] <j3di> no dude.. its another box i'm root on.
[11:52] <Jeeves_Moss> sharn: <rolls eyes>   I don't supose you read how to set up Grub for a M$ partition?
[11:52] <Ophiocus> wilde click where it says freenode,. you will understand
[11:52] <dooglus> j3di: what did you change to mess it up?
[11:53] <j3di> i think i swtiched the group i was in
[11:53] <wilde> where is frenode???
[11:53] <j3di> i was trying to add myself to a "users" group
[11:53] <wogi> wilde: You're here. :)
[11:53] <timfrost> ReWind^, /var/log/Xorg.0.log*
[11:53] <wilde> where I am???
[11:53] <sharn> Jeeves_Moss: ok if i reinstall ubuntu in the first partition will that fix it?
[11:53] <chrisx1> Whats The Latest Ubuntu?
[11:53] <wilde> I understand nothing.........
[11:53] <dooglus> j3di: you need to be in the "admin" group.  run "adduser j3di admin" to add yourself to it
[11:53] <Seveas> wilde, freenode is the name of this chat network :)
[11:53] <ReWind^> timfrost: Thanks a lot, checking it out:)
[11:53] <wogi> wilde: Its this irc server..
[11:53] <Seveas> chrisx1, Breezy (5.10)
[11:53] <navarone> wilde freenode is the name of the chat server network
[11:53] <tonyyarusso> Why does update-grub not recognize that my /boot is on a separate partition?
[11:53] <yggdrasil_> tha gawgles they do nawthing!!!!
[11:53] <Jeeves_Moss> sharn:  here ya go.  first search artical.  http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=grub+%22dual+boot%22&meta=
[11:54] <wilde> mmmm
[11:54] <j3di> thanx
[11:54] <chrisx1> ah k
[11:54] <chrisx1> dapper not released yet?
[11:54] <wilde> and so???
[11:54] <dooglus> j3di: what do you see if you run "grep ^% /etc/sudoers" as root?
[11:54] <tonyyarusso> chrisx1, Flight 2 yes, final is in April.
[11:54] <navarone> dapper is to be released in April chris
[11:54] <ompaul> !dapper
[11:54] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[11:54] <Ophiocus> one sec web is slow this side of the world
[11:54] <Ophiocus> :)
[11:54] <wogi> wilde: What is your question again?
[11:55] <navarone> wilde> perhaps you'd be more comfortable in #ubuntu-it...?
[11:55] <Lord_Athur> dooglus, but the colour cannot be saved for the next boot time
[11:55] <Ophiocus> wilde wants to connect a webcam (for gaim i suppose)
[11:55] <wilde> is that I can't use the cam
[11:55] <wilde> no with gaim
[11:55] <wilde> and no with gnomemeeting
[11:56] <wogi> wilde: Oh, right. I don't know Anything about cameras :( Have you used that camera with Linux before?
[11:56] <wilde> I didn't found
[11:56] <wilde> no
[11:56] <Ophiocus> is it just me the wiki painfully slow for?
[11:56] <tonyyarusso> Ophiocus, I had the same problem.
[11:56] <yggdrasil_> wilde i think he wants to use his webcam like he used to do for msn mesenger in windows
[11:56] <Jeeves_Moss> sharn:  did you look @ that link?
[11:56] <Seveas> Ophiocus, no
[11:57] <Lord_Athur> dooglus, but the colour cannot be saved for the next boot time, is there a way to do it?
[11:57] <wogi> wilde: What did you not find?
[11:57] <Seveas> it's dead slow since a few hours
[11:57] <dooglus> Lord_Athur: I don't kno
[11:57] <dooglus> w
[11:57] <wilde> who is "he"?
[11:57] <blue-frog> Lord_Athur, what if you put a script in /etc/init.d/
[11:57] <yggdrasil_> well you
[11:57] <yggdrasil_> you are he
[11:57] <yggdrasil_> am i correct
[11:57] <lightbright> whats a uptodate and LATEST Breezy sources.list that works?  anyone?
[11:57] <wilde> nothing about ubuntu.it
[11:57] <lightbright> Seveas: ok thanks :)
[11:57] <wogi> wilde: Can you just type /join #ubuntu-it ?
[11:57] <Ophiocus> wilde heres a treat,. its in spanish,. your webcam may not be a genius but its a good starting point
[11:58] <Ophiocus> http://www.ubuntu-es.org/node/4041
[11:58] <ReWind^> Doesn't really look like there's anything seriously wrong in the Xorg log, is there any log that will tell me about what's happening with the startup scripts that run after the ubuntu login screen?
[11:58] <palomer> it = ithuania?
[11:58] <Seveas> palomer, italia
[11:58] <wilde> no, italy
[11:58] <palomer> oh, I was close
[11:58] <Jeeves_Moss> all: Ok guys, I'm outta here.  time to make some supper.
[11:58] <Ophiocus> hehe "your webcam may not be a genius", that works on so many levels XD
[11:59] <navarone> bye Jeeves
[11:59] <yggdrasil_> hah is there even an ithuania ?
[11:59] <tonyyarusso> palomer, Well, except for the non-existant country bit, but sure.
[11:59] <tonyyarusso> yggdrasil, No.  Lithuania, yes.
[11:59] <yggdrasil_> is therea pager for gnome and thunderbird ?
[11:59] <GhostFreeman> How do I upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10?
[12:00] <palomer> ithuania existed before they changed their name to something else