[12:03] how confusing [12:05] Riddell: what do you think of non installing the other profiles ? to many unusefull profiles in konq there, no ? [12:07] Tonio_: I've a feeling someone would complain :) === claydoh [n=clay@65.99.186.191] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:08] okay ;) [12:09] Riddell: I wonder who can use those other profiles, most of them are simply clones of each other... === cblanquer [n=CarlosBl@84.77.141.119] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [12:11] hum, Riddell what would you think of closing tabs with middle click, like in Firefox ? right clicking actually is a pain, although we can ctrl + w [12:13] firefox closes tabs with middle click! [12:13] but middle click is for pasting URL [12:13] aye [12:13] that what I was thinking [12:14] didn't firefox remove paste URL because people did it by accident and got confused? [12:14] now they'll close the tab by accident and get much more confused [12:15] that's indeed possible ;) [12:15] aye === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cblanquer [n=CarlosBl@84.77.141.119] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:27] <\sh> god damn it...I just wanted to sleep only one hour before the CC and now I slept 9 hours... === cblanquer [n=CarlosBl@84.77.141.119] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [12:28] \sh: that's quite out of sync with europe [12:29] <\sh> Riddell: yes...since I quit my work, my body switched more to US times of staying awake..or I will transform into a vampire without knowing it [12:30] lol [12:33] <\sh> oh well...I just see...that i'm 35 since 33minutes...no wonder [12:35] happy birthday \sh! [12:36] <\sh> thx...but 35 is no age to celebrate...it means my life years are counted...max. 30 years left [12:36] stop smoking and you may squeeze in a few more [12:38] <\sh> Riddell: I don't want to live any longer :) [12:40] <\sh> argl..I have to clean up my mess in the qt package...I left an non working dpatch there...grrr [12:40] \sh: sure you do, who else is going to fix up Kubuntu 35.10? [12:40] hmm, how did it compile then? [12:40] <\sh> Riddell: you :) you are young :) and healthy...you will survive :) [12:41] <\sh> Riddell: the patch I found wasn't applying cleanly...so I had to create the changes manually with dpatch edit...but sadly I forgot to remove the the file which wasn't working..it's just a dead corpse in the debian/patches tree === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-007-034.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [12:42] \sh: well done on tracking that one down [12:43] <\sh> Riddell: thx to mez who was tracking the issue down...I just used google to find a workaround for that mess.. [12:43] <\sh> Riddell: but I wonder why the freedesktop.org people didn't fix it..because the problems are known since a couple of months [12:47] <\sh> Riddell: btw..for release do you want to remove all noise which are produced by qDebug calls? There is a redhat patch which silents all qdebug stuff in this immodule patch...I could put this in the patches dir and you have to enable it when it's time for the release [12:48] sound like a good idea [12:50] <\sh> ok..then I will put this now in the patches dir [12:54] argh cups is broken [12:54] :s [12:54] raphink: yeah I know :( [12:54] that's pretty bad :( [12:54] raphink: works OK if you add a printer with gnome-cups first [12:54] hmm ic [12:54] well I can't even start the server it seems [12:54] * Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd cupsd: Child exited on signal 15! [12:54] oh, that's a different problem then [12:55] hehe ;) [12:55] well it's a problem though ;) [12:55] hehe [12:55] can't get any more infos [12:55] E [11/Jan/2006:00:53:51 +0100] cupsdLoadAllClasses: Unable to open /etc/cups/classes.conf - No such file or directory [12:55] E [11/Jan/2006:00:53:51 +0100] LoadAllSubscriptions: Unable to open /etc/cups/subscriptions.conf - No such file or directory [12:56] I [11/Jan/2006:00:53:51 +0100] Full reload complete. [12:56] E [11/Jan/2006:00:53:51 +0100] cupsdStartListening: Unable to bind socket for address 127.0.0.1:631 - Cannot assign requested address [12:56] . [12:56] hmm [12:56] ;) [12:56] that's interesting [12:58] <\sh> raphink: because something is listening already? [12:58] I doubt so [12:58] I'll try to killall cupsys [12:59] doesn't seem so [12:59] not running as root? [01:00] $ nmap -p 631 localhost [01:00] raphink: netstat -pltu # as root [01:00] balh blah [01:00] Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -P0 [01:00] !! [01:01] hmm I think I understand [01:01] aaaaahhh, ohhhhh, happy birthday \sh! You young man ;) [01:02] <\sh> allee: grrr :) [01:02] hehe [01:02] was ifup/ifdown changed lately? [01:03] :) I send you a virtual selfmade Drum [01:03] arrr [01:03] + as a gift [01:03] raphink: yeah, almost a week ago, i think [01:04] it's horrible [01:04] all my config was changed [01:04] <\sh> allee: lol [01:04] all my network config commented [01:04] \sh the second I keep for myself:) [01:04] I had to reconfigure my network manually this morning [01:04] and now I can't print because 127.0.0.1 is not set [01:04] :s [01:07] ok reconfigured lo and relaunched it [01:07] that's nasty === \sh sends a tin of jolt to DehydratedHobbse [01:09] of jolt? [01:10] why isnt there a program that will go and get me some water from the kitchen? someone needs to make one! :P [01:13] kteatimer? === raphink [n=raphink@raphink.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:15] will it go to the kitchen and get me water? [01:15] <\sh> DehydratedHobbse: jolt is the drink of real hackers...never watched the movie "Hackers" with Angelina Jolie? a stupid movie, but funny to watch... [01:16] <\sh> DehydratedHobbse: ask you mom :) or train the dog :) [01:16] \sh: ah, right, no, i havent seen it [01:16] LOL! === DehydratedHobbse thinks of training the fish === \sh has to reboot his laptop ... brb === raphink [n=raphink@raphink.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-007-034.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === crimsun [i=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi_away [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-006-187.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi_away [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-006-187.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bobesponja [i=pat@bas75-1-81-57-4-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:14] Lathiat: did you get round to turning avahi-daemon off by default? [03:31] woo! http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/zeroconf.png === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=JRe@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru hugs Riddell thanks man [06:24] I had a question why doesnt k3b depend on cdrdao? [06:29] cdrdao is in universe [06:47] Riddell: nice screenshot === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@wbs-196-2-105-30.wbs.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua@221.172.48.53] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:03] why is there sudenly a security repos [09:03] that has different gpg keys than ussual ? [09:21] Riddell: kdelibs + kde devel package update going on? === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:22] freeflying_: hi, haven't seen you here for awhile [09:22] Tm_T: hi [09:23] ;) [09:24] hi freeflying_ [09:24] Hobbsee: hi [09:24] Tm_T: seems like it [09:25] aye === Tm_T doesn't like to lose his devel packages, so he waits... === freeflying_ try to pactch qt with immodule in breezy [09:38] k right [09:38] how do i import a gpg key again [09:40] apt-key add foo.gpg [09:41] hmm [09:41] ok [09:41] look here quick [09:41] GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088 [09:41] how i fix that === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@trider-g7.fabbione.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua@221.172.48.53] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@wbs-196-2-105-30.wbs.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bobesponja [i=pat@bas75-1-81-57-4-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === crimsun [i=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@raphink.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@65.99.186.191] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F488B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@server2.polaristar.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poningru_sleep [n=poningru@n128-227-69-10.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=hunger@p54A62542.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lathiat [i=lathiat@ubuntu/member/lathiat] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === teprrr [i=tpr@kde/developer/rytilahti] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sealne [n=sealne@obelisk.wasters.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === amu [n=amu@kubuntu.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mornfall [n=mornfall@kde/developer/mornfall] has joined #kubuntu-devel === je4d [n=jeff@kde/developer/je4d] has joined #kubuntu-devel === haggai [n=halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === spstarr_work [n=spstarr@192.219.104.10] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kozz [i=kozz@h203n1fls31o834.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tm_T [i=tm_travo@xob.kapsi.fi] has joined #kubuntu-devel === uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away [n=shermann@ubuntu/member/backslash-sh] has joined #kubuntu-devel === sebas [n=sebas@belphegor.deadlysins.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Firetech [n=Jocke@amarok/rokymotion/Firetech] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cmvo [n=cmvo@62.225.11.174] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Riddell [i=jr@kde/jriddell] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:irc.freenode.net] : Have a Great Hogmanay Kubuntu! | Flight 2 out || https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperGoals || http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu || Join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers/ === mdz [n=mdz@studiocity-motorola-bsr1-70-36-194-85.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@83.84.234.155] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:15] How about using qt-3.3.5 of dapper's in breezy === viviersf [n=cain@wbs-196-2-105-30.wbs.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:43] hey guys! :) [10:44] re daniel [10:45] wow, didn't know you hang out here too :) [10:45] hey daniel :) [10:46] I'm everywhere on freenode, even had to /part a channel to /join #ubuntu-bugs because I've reached the maximum per-client channel limit [10:47] wow [11:02] HAPPY HUG DAY to all you Kubuntu guys! [11:02] what? [11:03] We're having a BUG DAY today. [11:03] ok [11:03] But it was dubbed HUG DAY - as http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay explains. :-) [11:03] aye [11:04] we all gathered in #ubuntu-bugs, where we have a bug bot and where we can give general introduction to bug triage, etc [11:05] just wanted to invite the Kubuntu community to this event also :) [11:05] aye [11:05] http://tinyurl.com/afszc looks like a good start :) === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel === theine [n=theine@fw2.nbi.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:30] Hi, sorry for being a bit off-topic, but are any programs written for Qt 4 supposed to build against Qt 4.1 as well? [11:42] yeah, probably will === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:48] I actually suspect that the Qt 4.1 setup in Dapper is a bit broken right now... None of my Qt 4 apps compile successfully and there are quite a few header files missing (for instance /usr/include/qt4/private/qucomextra_p.h) [11:56] are you using current Dapper? [11:57] crimsun, sorry... yes [11:59] Version table: [11:59] 4.1.0-1ubuntu1 0 [11:59] 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages [11:59] does that match? [11:59] precisely [11:59] then the bug is in Debian's packaging, not ours [12:00] the only change that I made in -1ubuntu1 is to merge our libgl1-mesa-dev build-dep [12:00] crimsun, ok, hopefully the debian maintainer comes up with a fix soon... [12:01] crimsun, there's no Qt 4 equivalent to libqt3-headers, right? [12:02] only -dev [12:02] right, ok [12:03] If you're interested, the two programs that fail are the last.fm player and yzis (both current svn) [12:05] The former did build successfully against the Qt 4.0 dev-packages (the latter is written for Qt 4.1) === JRe [n=JRe@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mornfall pokes Riddell === Czessi_away [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-006-187.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:24] mornfall: I think you're aware of that but there is a fetch update bug in adept =) === freeflying_ doing dist-upgrade [01:49] I'm using konversation freeflying_ [01:49] raphink: :) [01:50] raphink: bother y [01:50] what? [01:50] raphink: nothing [01:51] lol [01:51] raphink: r u using dapper or breezy [01:51] dapper [01:51] raphink: how about it now [01:52] buggy [01:52] quite often [01:52] but it works ;) [01:52] I have been using it for about 2 months now === Czessi_away [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-006-187.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-006-187.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:11] hi mornfall [02:13] viviersf: you should just be able to import my key [02:13] dude [02:13] its not your key === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:13] :/ [02:13] its something on that mirror [02:14] what's the deb source you're using? === hunger_ [n=hunger@p54A61909.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:18] Riddell: have test scim-qtimm in dapper [02:23] freeflying_: working? [02:23] Riddell: sorry, i ask wether you have tested it [02:24] freeflying_: no I haven't [02:28] freeflying_: how do I test it? [02:28] Riddell, its not the deb source [02:28] that server just gives trouble sumtimes [02:28] will prolly work 2moz [02:29] Riddell: I'd test it [02:29] Riddell: I'm upgrade to dapper [02:30] Riddell, with knetworkconf, when you configure an interface the gateway you can fill in there, but it doesnt go into routes [02:30] Riddell, and also sometimes that windows still goes fullscreen so you cant go to admin mode etc [02:31] viviersf: what version do you have installed? [02:31] hold [02:32] 3.5.0-0ubuntu0breezy2 [02:33] i cant click on help knetworkconf version [02:33] it doesnt do nothing [02:36] I need to set up a new breezy chroot to test it === apokryphos [i=[U2FsdGV@server2.polaristar.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:10] Riddell: i had no problem w/ knetworkconf on a default install of breezy, just updated this morning [03:10] jjesse: yes you do, you won't be able to set a gateway on a static interface [03:11] meant the full screen and no admin mode [03:11] sorry bout that [03:12] Riddell: thanks, cds have arrived [03:22] groovy [03:37] <\sh> what? [03:37] sealne getting cds [03:38] \sh: want any Kubuntu CDs? [03:38] <\sh> Riddell: oh well...I just have still 150 Ubuntu cds left...I have to give them away [03:38] <\sh> Riddell: but if you have 2 or 3 for me just as collectables :) [03:40] \sh: send your postal address to jriddell@ubuntu.com [03:41] <\sh> Riddell: cool :) === guinsel [i=esteve@devnull.cent.uji.es] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JakubS [n=qba@azk210.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:46] hi guinsel, nlindblad, jjesse [03:47] JakubS rather [03:47] hello [03:47] JakubS: 4:3.5.0-0ubuntu4 ? [03:47] kdelibs [03:47] I'm from Sweden so I guess I could do some translation [03:48] nlindblad: that's always welcome [03:48] nlindblad: KDE will be in launchpad's translation archive in a couple of months [03:48] Riddell: great [03:49] Riddell: no, 4:3.5.0-3 [03:49] I've used Gentoo for the past 6 months and Debian since before Sarge [03:49] JakubS: hmm, you sure you aren't running debian? [03:50] oops, i had debian unstable line in sources.list :-) [03:56] Riddell: is there a specific URL for the bug day? [03:57] nlindblad: #ubuntu-bugs [03:57] nlindblad: https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+assignedbugs [03:58] nlindblad: those all need verifying, checking for duplicates, sending upstream if appropriate and fixing :) [03:58] okey [03:58] nlindblad: any help on that greatly appreciated [04:02] i wonder what else besides kdelibs got contaminated with debian packages === trappist [i=trappist@linuxkungfu.org] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:16] Riddell: i have a small problem: to build libkdnssd1-avahi package i need installed kdelibs4-dev but it depends on libkdnssd1-avahi === mornfall reappears (for a bit) [04:19] <\sh> circular dependency? [04:20] looks like it [04:22] hmm [04:24] mornfall: will you have time for any kind of mockup UI of those other bits or shall I just send it off? [04:25] mockups? give me two weeks and i will have mockups [04:25] JakubS: I guess I need to remove that dependency from kdelibs4-dev and anything which needs libkdnssd1-avahi will have to build-dep on it explicitly [04:25] or more probably screenshots [04:26] <\sh> Riddell: this sounds like a good idea :) [04:26] \sh: it's not very clean though, since kdelibs4-dev does provide the development files for libkdnssd1-avahi but doesn't bring in libkdnssd1-avahi [04:26] friday algebra exam, next week mathematical logic and on 25th modal and temporal logic, this weekend adept coding, divine coding... next week coding, studying, work... [04:27] <\sh> Riddell: no way to create a -dev package for libkdnssd1-avahi? [04:27] caffeine || head explodes [04:27] --> coffee [04:28] \sh: the development files come from kdelibs, the library from kdnssd-avahi. I could separate out the development files from kdelibs though [04:29] <\sh> Riddell: well...circular build-deps are somehow nasty...so I think it's better to go with separating the headers files from kdelibs and move it into some more sane [04:32] JakubS, \sh: apparantly isaac from debian is doing it by putting kdnssd-avahi inside kdelibs source package [04:33] as .diff.gz source patch? [04:33] I guess so [04:33] <\sh> Riddell: honestly, if this is an addon for kde, it should be shiped separatly and every app which could need avahi support should build-dep on it [04:35] \sh: well it's an interesting case, since kdelibs has a version of the library but we want to use this other (avahi) version of it [04:35] \sh: kdnssd headers are in kdecore by default [04:38] <\sh> JakubS: yay... [04:38] <\sh> Riddell: can't we patch it into kdelibs then? [04:38] \sh: that's what I'm doing now [04:38] <\sh> Riddell: that's better :) [04:41] hmmh, would it be possible to have gam_server run as nice level 19 automatically? [04:41] I mean, atm it takes almost all my cpu and makes kde almost unusable.. [04:41] caffeine deprivation sucks [04:42] <\sh> teprrr: hum? [04:42] <\sh> teprrr: it works somehow here without any strange memory consumption [04:48] \sh, well. a friend from a fellow kubuntu channel said it started sucking all the ram.. he fixed it by adding killall gam_server to crontab.. [04:48] here, it doesn't seem to take the mem, but cpu [04:49] <\sh> teprrr: not even here...what version from dapper or breezy [04:49] <\sh> ? [04:51] \sh, I'm here with dapper === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D1424.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:52] <\sh> teprrr: strange [04:53] 7484 tpr 35 19 3736 2428 892 R 68.7 0.2 11:09.65 gam_server [04:53] that 68.7 is mem usage [04:53] s/mem/cpu/ [05:27] Riddell: thanks for the CDs :) [05:27] welcome [05:27] received (most of) them today [05:27] it seems the package suffered a bit from the english post ;) [05:29] raphink: how many did I send you? [05:29] I got 21 [05:29] I don't know if there were more [05:29] the package was torn and put in a bag :( [05:31] hmm, that's not good [05:31] raphink: was it an envelope? [05:32] it was in a craft enveloppe [05:47] :s [05:51] hmm, need to use more parcel tape in future maybe [05:52] <\sh> Riddell: should I upload kdebase_3.5.0-0ubuntu11 now or should I wait for kdelibs with your fixes? fixed http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12343 [05:53] \sh: wait for now I think [05:54] <\sh> Riddell: k [06:09] ah, speaking of kdebase: I created a new user and the konsole font did not look like the standard fixed font of KDE. bug or feature [06:10] +? [06:11] for that specific user? === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:12] <\sh> allee: was konsole working with the fixed font before? [06:12] <\sh> allee: because I had to adjust it [06:13] aerh [06:13] good question in breezy definitely not, this was my first new user in dapper. but 3.5 konsole font handling has improved [06:14] now alsa's plug:dmix doesn't work :o [06:14] and I thought upstream set default to KDE standard fixed font [06:14] brb [06:15] <\sh> well actually I'm using for the console the monospace font [06:15] <\sh> in 8pt [06:17] ah, finally some sound [06:19] DejaVu Vera Sans Mono 9 here, I think [06:21] hmh, why user-installed fonts doesnt work [06:36] \sh: I consider everything else as KDEs default fixed font a 'bug'. If there a more readable font, KDEs default needs adaption because there no reason why kate and other fixed font users can life with a second quality fixed font [06:36] + IMHO of course [06:38] <\sh> allee: let me ask this: is this the fixed font the default, which gave me since kde 3.n where n>=0 heavy headaches... [06:38] <\sh> and a little nifty dialogbox which told me to do this and that [06:42] \sh: in KDE 3.x the default font was included in kdebase source and xfonts-konsole pkg. It was ugly. never used it. Origin is way back in history: when no good other fonts are available Lars Doelle decided instead of instead of getting endless bugrreport, he bundled the most complete pixel in # of glyphs font with konsole and cardcoded the name in the source. [06:47] \sh: KDE currrent default font is okay. Only visibily missing is the the 'hyphen' is not included (Arial that I used in sarge days had the same problem) [06:48] <\sh> allee: I like the monospace :) [06:48] <\sh> which is shipped by ubuntu/kubuntu [06:49] \sh: I don't care that much about the actual font. but I want the 'fixed' font be used in every KDE app by default === hunger_ is now known as hunger [06:51] \sh and Kurt Hindenburg told me ~ half a year ago that he implemetned it already in 3.5 svn [06:55] <\sh> allee: and what was riddells answer to not enable it? [06:55] <\sh> or I should remove my defaults somehow and start over [06:55] <\sh> to check [06:58] \sh I had a short chat with Riddel in 3.4 days (were the fix would have been a mess). I contacted upstream and and Kurt told me that he implemented it already [06:59] ah, at this thime it was not only the default but the ugly featrue that small, huge, large, .. etc menu entries resized the fonts but also reset the font familiy [06:59] now we have the nice enlarge/shrink. (as it should have been since KDE 2.0 when konsole was added ;) [07:13] \sh stop === allee hides ashamed [07:14] <\sh> hehe...sometimes I want to do that, too :) [07:14] argl, something changed recently. I created another user and there konsole use default font and it's even updated when changed in kcontol [07:15] I have problems with fonts too === allee hugs Kurt von Hindenburg === allee is completely happy with konsole fonts now [07:20] Tm_T: ... silence ... you don't feel like elaborating about your font problems;) [07:20] allee: I've been whining about my problems couple days now ;) [07:21] allee: fonts I installed via kcontrol doesnt work properly [07:22] Tm_T: ah remember. I never tried to do because I refuse to do that. Make a pkg and use dpkg -i ;) Everything else is chaos [07:23] hummmh === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:04] Riddell: applied to join the last.fm group for kubunt-develop [08:06] does k3bsetup work for you guys? [08:18] whats the problem laser? [08:18] w/ k3bsetup? [08:21] it is a blank window [08:22] for me as well (breezy) w/ latest updates [08:22] I'm on dapper if that makes any difference [08:23] we know, no idea what causes, it's a mystery [08:24] hmm, well that's a bummer, I was going to burn an iso [08:28] Riddell: this was fun [08:30] Riddell: I'd do it again anytime [08:30] LaserJock: ive burned isos before by just opening up k3b and selecting the .iso file [08:31] i didn't choose to run k3bsetup on purpose, did it run it as i opened k3b for the first time [08:39] cool guy :) === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:03] hi all ? [09:03] Anyone already tested this ? [09:03] http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29295&PHPSESSID=b4a240935ad2d28c6876b001d3b9f7a4 [09:03] I lke the look'n'feel ;) [09:04] nicer than klaptopdaemon, really [09:04] Tonio_: I've given it a very quick look but nothing more [09:05] Tonio_: do we have it in the archives? we should get that new version in before UVF [09:08] Tonio_: the current version in dapper is the debian version, and it's already outdated [09:09] Tonio_: packaging this new version would be nice :) well just upgrading it :) === robotgeek [n=robotgee@ppp-70-251-240-60.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:09] Riddell: not yet ;) [09:09] ho it is in dapper ? [09:09] version 0.4.5-1 is in dapper [09:09] Riddell: I can make the package right now if you want.... [09:10] 0.4.5-2 is in sid [09:10] so you just have to do a NMU on the dapper package [09:10] and find a MOTU to upload it [09:11] Tonio_: go for it but you may have to update that powerthing library [09:12] powersave ? [09:12] yeah [09:14] isn't that a problem to loose sync with debian ? I know some motus don't like that ;) [09:15] well if we need a newer version then that's what we have to do [09:15] but then it also needs testing if it breaks anything else [09:15] yep [09:15] let's go === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F6F30.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === theine [n=theine@fw2.nbi.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:40] Hi, will libkdnssd1-avahi be uploaded soon? [09:41] theine: I'm currently patching kdelibs directly, give me an hour or two [09:41] Riddell, sure thing :) [09:45] Riddell: this bugday has been fun [09:46] nlindblad: yay! [09:47] and I didn't screw up === poimen [n=poimen@66.231.167.61] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:50] hi [09:50] hullo [09:50] :D [09:50] you're laughing at me?! [09:51] hello poimen [09:51] :p naaaaaa just smiling :) [09:51] ;) [09:51] hi Riddell [09:51] poimen: are you going to install dapper? [09:51] Riddell : yeah [09:51] downloading it right now [09:51] poimen: flight-2 or daily CD? [09:52] the flight cd [09:52] the flight2 cd [09:52] probably wise, I suspect today's daily is broken [09:52] ok, how can I help? [09:52] poimen: let me know how you get on and once it's installed you can help with the Kubuntu Bug Day! [09:53] I have a relatively fast PC a 3.0 Ghz Pentium D [09:53] I think I can help building packages [09:53] if that is possible [09:54] we don't really need packaged built, we have buildds for that [09:54] also I can install both the x86-64 and the 386 [09:54] ok [09:54] :) I really will like to start helping a kubuntu :) [09:56] but when you are a student money is not the option to help ;p [09:57] students have time, that's what we need most [09:57] :) [10:01] Riddell, out of work students have even more time :) [10:02] I am on vation right now untill january 23 so.. I have more time :D [10:17] poimen: you could always help out w/ kubuntu documentation :) [10:17] ooh, yes [10:18] kubuntu quickguide needs some love [10:21] jjesse :) sure also I can translate to spanish [10:21] I am from puerto Rico [10:21] :) [10:22] ooo the release notes need some translation loving :) [10:23] btw : I am thinking on writing how to install xdvdshrink on kubuntu/ubuntu I have not seen that in the wiki [10:24] poimen: what is it? [10:24] xdvdshrink? [10:25] yes [10:25] xdvdshrink is multimidia program that help the use to backup dvd movies from the original copy to a dvd5 [10:26] http://ozzzy.dhis.org/DVDShrink.html [10:29] poimen: looks like something that should be packaged [10:30] I have I used alien to make a deb from the mandriva rpm and in works perfectly [10:31] fair enough when it works but not really maintainable [10:31] best to make a proper package [10:32] ok [10:32] that is something I have to learn and read about [10:32] they only provide a rpm and I think a src.rpm [10:33] poimen: they should provide source code aswell [10:33] will be in the src.rpm [10:34] :) [10:34] there is mdk.tar.gz [10:34] :) [10:34] http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/dvdshrink/dvdshrink-2.6.1-3mdk.tar.gz?download [10:34] yeah, but pure vanilla [10:37] right, good night [10:37] night nlindblad, thanks for the help [10:37] you haven't seen the last of me [10:40] I will be back in 2 hrs :) === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [10:40] well about 2:30 min in that time dapper will be installer === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-006-187.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [10:41] and I will be ready to help with docs and relese notes and eavery thing I can help :) maybe I will need a little instrccion and start but then I think I will be doing this constantly :) [10:42] excellent [10:43] Riddell, xdvdshrink uses transcode. it has got a non-free component in it, maybe that's why it has not been packaged yet [10:45] Riddell, maybe it could be in multiverse, maybe not [10:47] it is not on multiverse [10:47] not even in the pinguin liberation front for ubuntu [10:49] poimen, i will look into this [10:51] k [10:51] poimen, no transcode is in the repos, multiverse already. [10:51] poimen, talk in #ubuntu-motu , i guess [10:53] talk what:? about a package for xdvdshrink? [10:55] poimen, yes [10:55] ok [10:56] :) === claydoh [n=clay@65.99.186.27] has joined #kubuntu-devel