[12:03] <Riddell> how confusing
[12:05] <Tonio_> Riddell: what do you think of non installing the other profiles ? to many unusefull profiles in konq there, no ?
[12:07] <Riddell> Tonio_: I've a feeling someone would complain :)
[12:08] <Tonio_> okay ;)
[12:09] <Tonio_> Riddell: I wonder who can use those other profiles, most of them are simply clones of each other...
[12:11] <Tonio_> hum,  Riddell what would you think of closing tabs with middle click, like in Firefox ? right clicking actually is a pain, although we can ctrl + w
[12:13] <Riddell> firefox closes tabs with middle click!
[12:13] <Riddell> but middle click is for pasting URL
[12:13] <Tm_T> aye
[12:13] <Tm_T> that what I was thinking
[12:14] <Riddell> didn't firefox remove paste URL because people did it by accident and got confused?
[12:14] <Riddell> now they'll close the tab by accident and get much more confused
[12:15] <Tonio_> that's indeed possible ;)
[12:15] <Tm_T> aye
[12:27] <\sh> god damn it...I just wanted to sleep only one hour before the CC and now I slept 9 hours...
[12:28] <Riddell> \sh: that's quite out of sync with europe
[12:29] <\sh> Riddell: yes...since I quit my work, my body switched more to US times of staying awake..or I will transform into a vampire without knowing it
[12:30] <KaiL> lol
[12:33] <\sh> oh well...I just see...that i'm 35 since 33minutes...no wonder
[12:35] <Riddell> happy birthday \sh!
[12:36] <\sh> thx...but 35 is no age to celebrate...it means my life years are counted...max. 30 years left
[12:36] <Riddell> stop smoking and you may squeeze in a few more
[12:38] <\sh> Riddell: I don't want to live any longer :)
[12:40] <\sh> argl..I have to clean up my mess in the qt package...I left an non working dpatch there...grrr
[12:40] <Riddell> \sh: sure you do, who else is going to fix up Kubuntu 35.10?
[12:40] <Riddell> hmm, how did it compile then?
[12:40] <\sh> Riddell: you :) you are young :) and healthy...you will survive :)
[12:41] <\sh> Riddell: the patch I found wasn't applying cleanly...so I had to create the changes manually with dpatch edit...but sadly I forgot to remove the the file which wasn't working..it's just a dead corpse in the debian/patches tree
[12:42] <Riddell> \sh: well done on tracking that one down
[12:43] <\sh> Riddell: thx to mez who was tracking the issue down...I just used google to find a workaround for that mess..
[12:43] <\sh> Riddell: but I wonder why the freedesktop.org people didn't fix it..because the problems are known since a couple of months
[12:47] <\sh> Riddell: btw..for release do you want to remove all noise which are produced by qDebug calls? There is a redhat patch which silents all qdebug stuff in this immodule patch...I could put this in the patches dir and you have to enable it when it's time for the release
[12:48] <Riddell> sound like a good idea
[12:50] <\sh> ok..then I will put this now in the patches dir 
[12:54] <raphink> argh cups is broken
[12:54] <raphink> :s
[12:54] <Riddell> raphink: yeah I know :(
[12:54] <raphink> that's pretty bad :(
[12:54] <Riddell> raphink: works OK if you add a printer with gnome-cups first
[12:54] <raphink> hmm ic
[12:54] <raphink> well I can't even start the server it seems
[12:54] <raphink>  * Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd                                                                                       cupsd: Child exited on signal 15!
[12:54] <Riddell> oh, that's a different problem then
[12:55] <raphink> hehe ;)
[12:55] <raphink> well it's a problem though ;)
[12:55] <raphink> hehe
[12:55] <raphink> can't get any more infos
[12:55] <raphink> E [11/Jan/2006:00:53:51 +0100]  cupsdLoadAllClasses: Unable to open /etc/cups/classes.conf - No such file or directory
[12:55] <raphink> E [11/Jan/2006:00:53:51 +0100]  LoadAllSubscriptions: Unable to open /etc/cups/subscriptions.conf - No such file or directory
[12:56] <raphink> I [11/Jan/2006:00:53:51 +0100]  Full reload complete.
[12:56] <raphink> E [11/Jan/2006:00:53:51 +0100]  cupsdStartListening: Unable to bind socket for address 127.0.0.1:631 - Cannot assign requested address
[12:56] <raphink> .
[12:56] <raphink> hmm
[12:56] <raphink> ;)
[12:56] <raphink> that's interesting
[12:58] <\sh> raphink: because something is listening already?
[12:58] <raphink> I doubt so
[12:58] <raphink> I'll try to killall cupsys
[12:59] <raphink> doesn't seem so
[12:59] <Riddell> not running as root?
[01:00] <raphink>  $ nmap -p 631 localhost
[01:00] <allee> raphink: netstat -pltu # as root
[01:00] <raphink> balh blah
[01:00] <raphink> Note: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -P0
[01:00] <raphink> !!
[01:01] <raphink> hmm I think I understand
[01:01] <allee> aaaaahhh, ohhhhh, happy birthday \sh!  You young man ;)
[01:02] <\sh> allee: grrr :)
[01:02] <raphink> hehe
[01:02] <raphink> was ifup/ifdown changed lately?
[01:03] <allee> :)  I send you a virtual selfmade Drum
[01:03] <raphink> arrr
[01:03] <allee> + as a gift
[01:03] <Hobbsee> raphink: yeah, almost a week ago, i think
[01:04] <raphink> it's horrible
[01:04] <raphink> all my config was changed
[01:04] <\sh> allee: lol 
[01:04] <raphink> all my network config commented
[01:04] <allee> \sh the second I keep for myself:)
[01:04] <raphink> I had to reconfigure my network manually this morning
[01:04] <raphink> and now I can't print because 127.0.0.1 is not set
[01:04] <raphink> :s
[01:07] <raphink> ok reconfigured lo and relaunched it
[01:07] <raphink> that's nasty
[01:09] <DehydratedHobbse> of jolt?
[01:10] <DehydratedHobbse> why isnt there a program that will go and get me some water from the kitchen?  someone needs to make one!  :P
[01:13] <Riddell> kteatimer?
[01:15] <DehydratedHobbse> will it go to the kitchen and get me water?
[01:15] <\sh> DehydratedHobbse: jolt is the drink of real hackers...never watched the movie "Hackers" with Angelina Jolie? a stupid movie, but funny to watch...
[01:16] <\sh> DehydratedHobbse: ask you mom :) or train the dog :)
[01:16] <DehydratedHobbse> \sh: ah, right, no, i havent seen it
[01:16] <DehydratedHobbse> LOL!
[03:14] <Riddell> Lathiat: did you get round to turning avahi-daemon off by default?
[03:31] <Riddell> woo! http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/zeroconf.png
[06:24] <poningru> I had a question why doesnt k3b depend on cdrdao?
[06:29] <Lathiat> cdrdao is in universe
[06:47] <Lathiat> Riddell: nice screenshot
[09:03] <viviersf> why is there sudenly a security repos 
[09:03] <viviersf> that has different gpg keys than ussual ?
[09:21] <Tm_T> Riddell: kdelibs + kde devel package update going on?
[09:22] <Tm_T> freeflying_: hi, haven't seen you here for awhile
[09:22] <freeflying_> Tm_T: hi
[09:23] <Tm_T> ;)
[09:24] <Hobbsee> hi freeflying_ 
[09:24] <freeflying_> Hobbsee: hi
[09:24] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: seems like it
[09:25] <Tm_T> aye
[09:38] <viviersf> k right
[09:38] <viviersf> how do i import a gpg key again
[09:40] <Hobbsee> apt-key add foo.gpg
[09:41] <viviersf> hmm
[09:41] <viviersf> ok 
[09:41] <viviersf> look here quick
[09:41] <viviersf> GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[09:41] <viviersf> how i fix that
[10:15] <freeflying_> How about using qt-3.3.5 of dapper's in breezy
[10:43] <dholbach> hey guys! :)
[10:44] <crimsun> re daniel
[10:45] <dholbach> wow, didn't know you hang out here too :)
[10:45] <dholbach> hey daniel :)
[10:46] <crimsun> I'm everywhere on freenode, even had to /part a channel to /join #ubuntu-bugs because I've reached the maximum per-client channel limit
[10:47] <dholbach> wow
[11:02] <dholbach> HAPPY HUG DAY to all you Kubuntu guys!
[11:02] <Tm_T> what?
[11:03] <dholbach> We're having a BUG DAY today.
[11:03] <Tm_T> ok
[11:03] <dholbach> But it was dubbed HUG DAY - as http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay explains. :-)
[11:03] <Tm_T> aye
[11:04] <dholbach> we all gathered in #ubuntu-bugs, where we have a bug bot and where we can give general introduction to bug triage, etc
[11:05] <dholbach> just wanted to invite the Kubuntu community to this event also :)
[11:05] <Tm_T> aye
[11:05] <dholbach> http://tinyurl.com/afszc looks like a good start :)
[11:30] <theine> Hi, sorry for being a bit off-topic, but are any programs written for Qt 4 supposed to build against Qt 4.1 as well?
[11:42] <verwilst> yeah, probably will
[11:48] <theine> I actually suspect that the Qt 4.1 setup in Dapper is a bit broken right now... None of my Qt 4 apps compile successfully and there are quite a few header files missing (for instance /usr/include/qt4/private/qucomextra_p.h)
[11:56] <crimsun> are you using current Dapper?
[11:57] <theine> crimsun, sorry... yes
[11:59] <crimsun>   Version table:
[11:59] <crimsun>      4.1.0-1ubuntu1 0
[11:59] <crimsun>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages
[11:59] <crimsun> does that match?
[11:59] <theine> precisely
[11:59] <crimsun> then the bug is in Debian's packaging, not ours
[12:00] <crimsun> the only change that I made in -1ubuntu1 is to merge our libgl1-mesa-dev build-dep
[12:00] <theine> crimsun, ok, hopefully the debian maintainer comes up with a fix soon...
[12:01] <theine> crimsun, there's no Qt 4 equivalent to libqt3-headers, right?
[12:02] <crimsun> only -dev
[12:02] <theine> right, ok
[12:03] <theine> If you're interested, the two programs that fail are the last.fm player and yzis (both current svn)
[12:05] <theine> The former did build successfully against the Qt 4.0 dev-packages (the latter is written for Qt 4.1)
[01:24] <JRe> mornfall: I think you're aware of that but there is a fetch update bug in adept =)
[01:49] <raphink> I'm using konversation freeflying_ 
[01:49] <freeflying_> raphink: :)
[01:50] <freeflying_> raphink:  bother y 
[01:50] <raphink> what?
[01:50] <freeflying_> raphink: nothing 
[01:51] <raphink> lol
[01:51] <freeflying_> raphink: r u using dapper or breezy
[01:51] <raphink> dapper
[01:51] <freeflying_> raphink: how about it now 
[01:52] <raphink> buggy
[01:52] <raphink> quite often
[01:52] <raphink> but it works ;)
[01:52] <raphink> I have been using it for about 2 months now
[02:11] <Riddell> hi mornfall 
[02:13] <Riddell> viviersf: you should just be able to import my key
[02:13] <viviersf> dude
[02:13] <viviersf> its not your key
[02:13] <viviersf> :/
[02:13] <viviersf> its something on that mirror
[02:14] <Riddell> what's the deb source you're using?
[02:18] <freeflying_> Riddell: have test scim-qtimm in dapper
[02:23] <Riddell> freeflying_: working?
[02:23] <freeflying_> Riddell: sorry, i ask wether you have tested it 
[02:24] <Riddell> freeflying_: no I haven't
[02:28] <Riddell> freeflying_: how do I test it?
[02:28] <viviersf> Riddell, its not the deb source
[02:28] <viviersf> that server just gives trouble sumtimes
[02:28] <viviersf> will prolly work 2moz
[02:29] <freeflying_> Riddell: I'd test it 
[02:29] <freeflying_> Riddell: I'm upgrade to dapper
[02:30] <viviersf> Riddell, with knetworkconf, when you configure an interface the gateway you can fill in there, but it doesnt go into routes
[02:30] <viviersf> Riddell, and also sometimes that windows still goes fullscreen so you cant go to admin mode etc 
[02:31] <Riddell> viviersf: what version do you have installed?
[02:31] <viviersf> hold
[02:32] <viviersf> 3.5.0-0ubuntu0breezy2
[02:33] <viviersf> i cant click on help knetworkconf version
[02:33] <viviersf> it doesnt do nothing
[02:36] <Riddell> I need to set up a new breezy chroot to test it
[03:10] <jjesse> Riddell: i had no problem w/ knetworkconf on a default install of breezy, just updated this morning
[03:10] <Riddell> jjesse: yes you do, you won't be able to set a gateway on a static interface
[03:11] <jjesse> meant the full screen and no admin mode
[03:11] <jjesse> sorry bout that
[03:12] <sealne> Riddell: thanks, cds have arrived
[03:22] <Riddell> groovy
[03:37] <\sh> what?
[03:37] <Riddell> sealne getting cds
[03:38] <Riddell> \sh: want any Kubuntu CDs?
[03:38] <\sh> Riddell: oh well...I just have still 150 Ubuntu cds left...I have to give them away
[03:38] <\sh> Riddell: but if you have 2 or 3 for me just as collectables :) 
[03:40] <Riddell> \sh: send your postal address to jriddell@ubuntu.com
[03:41] <\sh> Riddell: cool :)
[03:46] <Riddell> hi guinsel, nlindblad, jjesse 
[03:47] <Riddell> JakubS rather
[03:47] <JakubS> hello
[03:47] <Riddell> JakubS: 4:3.5.0-0ubuntu4 ?
[03:47] <Riddell> kdelibs
[03:47] <nlindblad> I'm from Sweden so I guess I could do some translation
[03:48] <Riddell> nlindblad: that's always welcome
[03:48] <Riddell> nlindblad: KDE will be in launchpad's translation archive in a couple of months
[03:48] <nlindblad> Riddell: great
[03:49] <JakubS> Riddell: no, 4:3.5.0-3
[03:49] <nlindblad> I've used Gentoo for the past 6 months and Debian since before Sarge
[03:49] <Riddell> JakubS: hmm, you sure you aren't running debian?
[03:50] <JakubS> oops, i had debian unstable line in sources.list :-)
[03:56] <nlindblad> Riddell: is there a specific URL for the bug day?
[03:57] <Riddell> nlindblad: #ubuntu-bugs
[03:57] <Riddell> nlindblad: https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team/+assignedbugs
[03:58] <Riddell> nlindblad: those all need verifying, checking for duplicates, sending upstream if appropriate and fixing :)
[03:58] <nlindblad> okey
[03:58] <Riddell> nlindblad: any help on that greatly appreciated 
[04:02] <JakubS> i wonder what else besides kdelibs got contaminated with debian packages
[04:16] <JakubS> Riddell: i have a small problem: to build libkdnssd1-avahi package i need installed kdelibs4-dev but it depends on libkdnssd1-avahi
[04:19] <\sh> circular dependency?
[04:20] <JakubS> looks like it
[04:22] <Riddell> hmm
[04:24] <Riddell> mornfall: will you have time for any kind of mockup UI of those other bits or shall I just send it off?
[04:25] <mornfall> mockups? give me two weeks and i will have mockups
[04:25] <Riddell> JakubS: I guess I need to remove that dependency from kdelibs4-dev and anything which needs libkdnssd1-avahi will have to build-dep on it explicitly
[04:25] <mornfall> or more probably screenshots
[04:26] <\sh> Riddell: this sounds like a good idea :)
[04:26] <Riddell> \sh: it's not very clean though, since kdelibs4-dev does provide the development files for libkdnssd1-avahi but doesn't bring in libkdnssd1-avahi
[04:26] <mornfall> friday algebra exam, next week mathematical logic and on 25th modal and temporal logic, this weekend adept coding, divine coding... next week coding, studying, work...
[04:27] <\sh> Riddell: no way to create a -dev package for libkdnssd1-avahi?
[04:27] <mornfall> caffeine || head explodes
[04:27] <mornfall> --> coffee
[04:28] <Riddell> \sh: the development files come from kdelibs, the library from kdnssd-avahi.  I could separate out the development files from kdelibs though
[04:29] <\sh> Riddell: well...circular build-deps are somehow nasty...so I think it's better to go with separating the headers files from kdelibs and move it into some more sane
[04:32] <Riddell> JakubS, \sh: apparantly isaac from debian is doing it by putting kdnssd-avahi inside kdelibs source package
[04:33] <JakubS> as .diff.gz source patch?
[04:33] <Riddell> I guess so
[04:33] <\sh> Riddell: honestly, if this is an addon for kde, it should be shiped separatly and every app which could need avahi support should build-dep on it
[04:35] <Riddell> \sh: well it's an interesting case, since kdelibs has a version of the library but we want to use this other (avahi) version of it
[04:35] <JakubS> \sh: kdnssd headers are in kdecore by default
[04:38] <\sh> JakubS: yay...
[04:38] <\sh> Riddell: can't we patch it into kdelibs then?
[04:38] <Riddell> \sh: that's what I'm doing now
[04:38] <\sh> Riddell: that's better :)
[04:41] <teprrr> hmmh, would it be possible to have gam_server run as nice level 19 automatically?
[04:41] <teprrr> I mean, atm it takes almost all my cpu and makes kde almost unusable..
[04:41] <mornfall> caffeine deprivation sucks
[04:42] <\sh> teprrr: hum?
[04:42] <\sh> teprrr: it works somehow here without any strange memory consumption
[04:48] <teprrr> \sh, well. a friend from a fellow kubuntu channel said it started sucking all the ram.. he fixed it by adding killall gam_server to crontab..
[04:48] <teprrr> here, it doesn't seem to take the mem, but cpu
[04:49] <\sh> teprrr: not even here...what version from dapper or breezy
[04:49] <\sh> ?
[04:51] <teprrr> \sh, I'm here with dapper
[04:52] <\sh> teprrr: strange
[04:53] <teprrr>  7484 tpr       35  19  3736 2428  892 R 68.7  0.2  11:09.65 gam_server
[04:53] <teprrr> that 68.7 is mem usage
[04:53] <teprrr> s/mem/cpu/
[05:27] <raphink> Riddell: thanks for the CDs :)
[05:27] <Riddell> welcome
[05:27] <raphink> received (most of) them today
[05:27] <raphink> it seems the package suffered a bit from the english post ;)
[05:29] <Riddell> raphink: how many did I send you?
[05:29] <raphink> I got 21
[05:29] <raphink> I don't know if there were more
[05:29] <raphink> the package was torn and put in a bag :(
[05:31] <Riddell> hmm, that's not good
[05:31] <Riddell> raphink: was it an envelope?
[05:32] <raphink> it was in a craft enveloppe
[05:47] <raphink> :s
[05:51] <Riddell> hmm, need to use more parcel tape in future maybe
[05:52] <\sh> Riddell: should I upload kdebase_3.5.0-0ubuntu11 now or should I wait for kdelibs with your fixes? fixed http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12343
[05:53] <Riddell> \sh: wait for now I think
[05:54] <\sh> Riddell: k
[06:09] <allee> ah, speaking of kdebase: I created a new user and the konsole font did not look like the standard fixed font of KDE.  bug or feature
[06:10] <allee> +?
[06:11] <nlindblad> for that specific user?
[06:12] <\sh> allee: was konsole working with the fixed font before?
[06:12] <\sh> allee: because I had to adjust it 
[06:13] <Tm_T> aerh
[06:13] <allee> good question in breezy definitely not, this was my first new user in dapper. but 3.5 konsole font handling has improved
[06:14] <Tm_T> now alsa's plug:dmix doesn't work :o
[06:14] <allee> and I thought upstream set default to KDE standard fixed font
[06:14] <allee> brb
[06:15] <\sh> well actually I'm using for the console the monospace font
[06:15] <\sh> in 8pt
[06:17] <Tm_T> ah, finally some sound
[06:19] <Tm_T> DejaVu Vera Sans Mono 9 here, I think
[06:21] <Tm_T> hmh, why user-installed fonts doesnt work
[06:36] <allee> \sh: I consider everything else as KDEs default fixed font a 'bug'.  If there a more readable font, KDEs default needs adaption because there no reason why kate and other fixed font users can life with a second quality fixed font
[06:36] <allee> + IMHO of course
[06:38] <\sh> allee: let me ask this: is this the fixed font the default, which gave me since kde 3.n where n>=0 heavy headaches...
[06:38] <\sh> and a little nifty dialogbox which told me to do this and that 
[06:42] <allee> \sh: in KDE 3.x the default font was included in kdebase source and xfonts-konsole pkg.  It was ugly. never used it.  Origin is way back in history: when no good other fonts are available Lars Doelle decided instead of instead of getting endless bugrreport, he bundled the most complete pixel in # of glyphs font with konsole and cardcoded the name in the source.
[06:47] <allee> \sh: KDE currrent default font is okay.  Only visibily missing is the the 'hyphen' is not included (Arial that I used in sarge days had the same problem)
[06:48] <\sh> allee: I like the monospace :)
[06:48] <\sh> which is shipped by ubuntu/kubuntu
[06:49] <allee> \sh: I don't care that much about the actual font.  but I want the 'fixed' font be used in every KDE app by default
[06:51] <allee> \sh and Kurt Hindenburg told me ~ half a year ago that he implemetned it already in 3.5 svn
[06:55] <\sh> allee: and what was riddells answer to not enable it?
[06:55] <\sh> or I should remove my defaults somehow and start over
[06:55] <\sh> to check
[06:58] <allee> \sh I had a short chat with Riddel in 3.4 days (were the fix would have been a mess).  I contacted upstream and and Kurt told me that he implemented it already
[06:59] <allee> ah, at this thime it was not only the default but the ugly featrue that small, huge, large, .. etc menu entries resized the fonts but also reset the font familiy
[06:59] <allee> now we have the nice enlarge/shrink.  (as it should have been since KDE 2.0 when konsole was added ;)
[07:13] <allee> \sh stop
[07:14] <\sh> hehe...sometimes I want to do that, too :)
[07:14] <allee> argl, something changed recently.  I created another user and there konsole use default font and it's even updated when changed in kcontol
[07:15] <Tm_T> I have problems with fonts too
[07:20] <allee> Tm_T: ... silence ... you don't feel like elaborating about your font problems;)
[07:20] <Tm_T> allee: I've been whining about my problems couple days now ;)
[07:21] <Tm_T> allee: fonts I installed via kcontrol doesnt work properly
[07:22] <allee> Tm_T: ah remember.  I never tried to do because I refuse to do that.  Make a pkg and use dpkg -i ;) Everything else is chaos
[07:23] <Tm_T> hummmh
[08:04] <jjesse> Riddell: applied to join the last.fm group for kubunt-develop
[08:06] <LaserJock> does k3bsetup work for you guys?
[08:18] <jjesse> whats the problem laser?
[08:18] <jjesse> w/ k3bsetup?
[08:21] <LaserJock> it is a blank window
[08:22] <jjesse> for me as well (breezy) w/ latest updates
[08:22] <LaserJock> I'm on dapper if that makes any difference
[08:23] <Riddell> we know, no idea what causes, it's a mystery
[08:24] <LaserJock> hmm, well that's a bummer, I was going to burn an iso
[08:28] <nlindblad> Riddell: this was fun
[08:30] <nlindblad> Riddell: I'd do it again anytime
[08:30] <jjesse> LaserJock: ive burned isos before by just opening up k3b and selecting the .iso file
[08:31] <jjesse> i didn't choose to run k3bsetup on purpose, did it run it as i opened k3b for the first time
[08:39] <Riddell> cool guy :)
[09:03] <Tonio_> hi all ?
[09:03] <Tonio_> Anyone already tested this ?
[09:03] <Tonio_> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=29295&PHPSESSID=b4a240935ad2d28c6876b001d3b9f7a4
[09:03] <Tonio_> I lke the look'n'feel ;)
[09:04] <Tonio_> nicer than klaptopdaemon, really
[09:04] <Riddell> Tonio_: I've given it a very quick look but nothing more
[09:05] <Riddell> Tonio_: do we have it in the archives?  we should get that new version in before UVF
[09:08] <raphink> Tonio_: the current version in dapper is the debian version, and it's already outdated
[09:09] <raphink> Tonio_: packaging this new version would be nice :) well just upgrading it :)
[09:09] <Tonio_> Riddell: not yet ;)
[09:09] <Tonio_> ho it is in dapper ?
[09:09] <raphink> version 0.4.5-1 is in dapper
[09:09] <Tonio_> Riddell: I can make the package right now if you want....
[09:10] <raphink> 0.4.5-2 is in sid
[09:10] <raphink> so you just have to do a NMU on the dapper package
[09:10] <raphink> and find a MOTU to upload it
[09:11] <Riddell> Tonio_: go for it but you may have to update that powerthing library
[09:12] <Tonio_> powersave ?
[09:12] <Riddell> yeah
[09:14] <Tonio_> isn't that a problem to loose sync with debian ? I know some motus don't like that ;)
[09:15] <Riddell> well if we need a newer version then that's what we have to do
[09:15] <Riddell> but then it also needs testing if it breaks anything else
[09:15] <Tonio_> yep
[09:15] <Tonio_> let's go
[09:40] <theine> Hi, will libkdnssd1-avahi be uploaded soon?
[09:41] <Riddell> theine: I'm currently patching kdelibs directly, give me an hour or two
[09:41] <theine> Riddell, sure thing :)
[09:45] <nlindblad> Riddell: this bugday has been fun
[09:46] <Riddell> nlindblad: yay!
[09:47] <nlindblad> and I didn't screw up
[09:50] <poimen> hi
[09:50] <Tm_T> hullo
[09:50] <poimen> :D
[09:50] <Tm_T> you're laughing at me?!
[09:51] <Riddell> hello poimen 
[09:51] <poimen> :p naaaaaa just smiling :)
[09:51] <Tm_T> ;)
[09:51] <poimen> hi Riddell
[09:51] <Riddell> poimen: are you going to install dapper?
[09:51] <poimen> Riddell : yeah
[09:51] <poimen> downloading it right now
[09:51] <Riddell> poimen: flight-2 or daily CD?
[09:52] <poimen> the flight cd
[09:52] <poimen> the flight2 cd
[09:52] <Riddell> probably wise, I suspect today's daily is broken
[09:52] <poimen> ok, how can I help?
[09:52] <Riddell> poimen: let me know how you get on and once it's installed you can help with the Kubuntu Bug Day!
[09:53] <poimen> I have a relatively fast PC a 3.0 Ghz Pentium D  
[09:53] <poimen> I think I can help building packages 
[09:53] <poimen> if that is possible
[09:54] <Riddell> we don't really need packaged built, we have buildds for that
[09:54] <poimen> also I can install both the x86-64 and the 386
[09:54] <poimen> ok
[09:54] <poimen> :) I really will like to start helping a kubuntu :) 
[09:56] <poimen> but when you are a student money is not the option to help ;p
[09:57] <Riddell> students have time, that's what we need most
[09:57] <poimen> :)
[10:01] <robotgeek> Riddell, out of work students have even more time :)
[10:02] <poimen> I am on vation right now untill january 23 so.. I have more time :D
[10:17] <jjesse> poimen: you could always help out w/ kubuntu documentation :)
[10:17] <Riddell> ooh, yes
[10:18] <jjesse> kubuntu quickguide needs some love
[10:21] <poimen> jjesse :)  sure also I can translate to spanish
[10:21] <poimen> I am from puerto Rico
[10:21] <poimen> :)
[10:22] <jjesse> ooo the release notes need some translation loving :)
[10:23] <poimen> btw : I am thinking on writing how to install xdvdshrink on kubuntu/ubuntu I have not seen that in the wiki
[10:24] <Riddell> poimen: what is it?
[10:24] <poimen> xdvdshrink?
[10:25] <Riddell> yes
[10:25] <poimen> xdvdshrink is multimidia program that help the use to backup dvd movies from the original copy to a dvd5
[10:26] <poimen> http://ozzzy.dhis.org/DVDShrink.html
[10:29] <Riddell> poimen: looks like something that should be packaged
[10:30] <poimen> I have I used alien to make a deb from the mandriva rpm and in works perfectly
[10:31] <Riddell> fair enough when it works but not really maintainable
[10:31] <Riddell> best to make a proper package
[10:32] <poimen> ok
[10:32] <poimen> that is something I have to learn and read about
[10:32] <poimen> they only provide a rpm and I think a src.rpm
[10:33] <nlindblad> poimen: they should provide source code aswell
[10:33] <Riddell> will be in the src.rpm
[10:34] <poimen> :)
[10:34] <poimen> there is mdk.tar.gz
[10:34] <poimen> :)
[10:34] <nlindblad> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/dvdshrink/dvdshrink-2.6.1-3mdk.tar.gz?download
[10:34] <nlindblad> yeah, but pure vanilla
[10:37] <nlindblad> right, good night
[10:37] <Riddell> night nlindblad, thanks for the help
[10:37] <nlindblad> you haven't seen the last of me
[10:40] <poimen> I will be back in 2 hrs :) 
[10:40] <poimen> well about 2:30 min in that time dapper will be installer
[10:41] <poimen> and I will be ready to help with docs and relese notes and eavery thing I can help :) maybe I will need a little instrccion and start but then I think I will be doing this constantly :) 
[10:42] <Riddell> excellent
[10:43] <robotgeek> Riddell, xdvdshrink uses transcode. it has got a non-free component in it, maybe that's why it has not been packaged yet
[10:45] <robotgeek> Riddell, maybe it could be in multiverse, maybe not
[10:47] <poimen> it is not on multiverse
[10:47] <poimen> not even in the pinguin liberation front for ubuntu
[10:49] <robotgeek> poimen, i will look into this
[10:51] <poimen> k
[10:51] <robotgeek> poimen, no transcode is in the repos, multiverse already. 
[10:51] <robotgeek> poimen, talk in #ubuntu-motu , i guess
[10:53] <poimen> talk what:? about a package for xdvdshrink?
[10:55] <robotgeek> poimen, yes
[10:55] <poimen> ok
[10:56] <poimen> :)