[12:11] <kubo> hi
[12:11] <kubo> a nice group of robots.. :D
[12:12] <Knowerrors> I have an external v92 modem I use to connect to dialup internet... since will use one line, I need a way for either call waiting to ring through and disconnect the internet, or have an option onscreen to switch over and put the internet on hold, is this possible in linux?
[12:13] <kubo> (P3L|C4N0 mi sa di familiare..)
[12:13] <mazee> !limewire
[12:13] <ubotu> [limewire]  first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[12:17] <mazee> is fat32 writable in linux
[12:17] <mr-russ> yes
[12:18] <mazee> well
[12:18] <mazee> limewire says it cant write in it
[12:18] <mazee> wtf :/
[12:18] <_tj> How do you have the drive mounted, mazee?
[12:18] <mazee> yes
[12:19] <mazee> /dev/hdb5 /media/hdb5 vfat rw,user,fmask=0133,dmask=0022,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[12:19] <mazee> maybe its that ?
[12:19] <mazee> dmask=0022
[12:20] <sorush20> hi every one..
[12:20] <mazee> y helo thar
[12:22] <Hobbsee_> hi
[12:22] <sorush20> hi
[12:22] <sorush20> Love kde and kubuntu
[12:22] <sorush20> really good.
[12:22] <sorush20> is yum as extensive as apt?
[12:23] <Hobbsee> doubt it
[12:27] <Knowerrors> Hobbsee: I tried getting Acrobat plugin to work with Opera as per the wiki, no luck, do you know how to set it up?
[12:27] <Hobbsee> i've never tried it
[12:27] <Hobbsee> but what's not working?
[12:28] <wimpies> Anybody around that can help me recover from a suckit rootkit ?
[12:28] <wimpies> If I boot from a LIVE CD , can I reinstall all packages on my mount root partition ?
[12:28] <wimpies> would that be enough ?
[12:30] <Knowerrors> Hobbsee: I thought you were one of the resident Opera users...
[12:30] <Hobbsee> nope, i use firefox all the time
[12:30] <dark_suic> wimpies, the best thing you can do is to save critical files u have, format & reinstall the system....
[12:30] <Knowerrors> On another more important note, any dialup modem users in here
[12:30] <Knowerrors> ?
[12:31] <wimpies> If I backup /home /etc /usr/local reformat and reinstall would that be ok ?
[12:31] <Altura> hello, how can i make firefox my default web browser?
[12:31] <wimpies> How can In automatically reinstall all installed packages ?
[12:31] <wimpies> can I just restore /home /etc /usr/local by copying it over reinstalled versions ?
[12:32] <dark_suic> wimpies, don't know very much about rootkits, so don't know....
[12:32] <Xemanth^> nice vicrtory for mexicoola
[12:32] <Xemanth^> cools*
[12:32] <Xemanth^> ups :D
[12:32] <Xemanth^> wrong chan
[12:32] <Xemanth^> :D
[12:32] <dark_suic> i would just save but, wimpies , i would just backup critical documents and reinstall/reconfig everything
[12:33] <dark_suic> that way you should ensure you don't keep the rootkit between your files
[12:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there, i have some questions relating firefox in kubuntu..
[12:33] <Xemanth^> don't talk about rootkit, its sony's thing and i have it in highlight
[12:33] <Xemanth^> :D
[12:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sometimes it happens that a file can be opened only as a download resource, even if it is a page
[12:34] <Hobbsee> Knowerrors: try kkathman-away, when he comes back
[12:34] <Knowerrors> he is dialup modem user? Hobbsee
[12:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and  this cause some problems, since logic links refers to /temp directory after taht
[12:34] <wimpies> Can I save some 'installed packages' file so I can recover more easily ?
[12:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and in this way, i can't open them...
[12:34] <ninnghizidha> anybody got a konqueror-adfilter-file?
[12:35] <Knowerrors> kkathman-away: I have an external v92 modem I use to connect to dialup internet... since will use one line, I need a way for either call waiting to ring through and disconnect the internet, or have an option onscreen to switch over and put the internet on hold, is this possible in linux?
[12:35] <Tm_T> ninnghizidha: file?
[12:35] <dark_suic> well, you can keep the .debs downloaded by apt-get / synatpic / adept that are on /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:35] <dark_suic> i mean, you can keep everything you want
[12:35] <ninnghizidha> yes .. you can import and export those ...
[12:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ? someone has my same problem?
[12:35] <dark_suic> but if you are unsure about having killed every rootkit part, you should format and reinstall
[12:35] <Tm_T> hmm, why should I have that file?
[12:36] <dark_suic> if you're completely sure you've removed the rootkit, then just reinstall the packages you need and put lilo/grub in it's place
[12:36] <wimpies> I know where the 'sk' file is (/usr/share/locale/sk/kid/sk) and can easily recover modified system files by apt-get install --reinstall xyz
[12:36] <dark_suic> Tallia1Kubuntu, don't happen that to me...
[12:36] <dark_suic> :P
[12:37] <Tallia1Kubuntu> really? :(
[12:37] <dark_suic> i just don't know too much about rootkits, but if they keep a copy of themselves in other place of your hard disk, you may be wasting your time...
[12:37] <dark_suic> if it doesn't, then just try that
[12:37] <dark_suic> Tallia1Kubuntu, yes, sorry :(
[12:37] <Hobbsee> Knowerrors: no, but he uses opera all the time
[12:37] <wimpies> is there any IRC that is specialized in rootkits ?
[12:38] <Knowerrors> oh, ok, that I really don't care too much about, I use FF and Konq mostly
[12:38] <dark_suic> don't know, wimpies , ask google...
[12:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> dark_suic: anyway sometimes i have a problem with firefox, since not all the plugins are available under linux
[12:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> dark_suic: have you ever tried explorer with wine?
[12:40] <dark_suic> no
[12:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> did someone ever tried to use Explorer 6 with wine?
[12:40] <dark_suic> explorer is installed correctly with crossover office (a  program that lets' you install ms programs on linux, or something like that)
[12:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mhh
[12:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> crossover office?
[12:41] <dark_suic> a friend of mine has ms office and ie on linux...
[12:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> never heard about that
[12:41] <dark_suic> yep, won't be on repos probably...
[12:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see, is it free
[12:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[12:41] <Hobbsee> no
[12:41] <dark_suic> i supose :P
[12:41] <dark_suic> don't know about it :P
[12:42] <Hobbsee> crossover office is not free
[12:42] <dark_suic> just heard that it works for ms products :P
[12:42] <Hobbsee> although i think they might have a demo version, like cedega does
[12:42] <dark_suic> ok , listen Hobbsee , he knows for sure more than me ^^UUU
[12:42] <Hobbsee> hehe
[12:42] <Hobbsee> she
[12:42] <Hobbsee> dark_suic: she, and only about some things
[12:42] <dark_suic> wops, excuse me :)
[12:43] <ninnghizidha> Can konqueror show specific icons for one folder? e.g give the music-folder a music-emblem ... ?
[12:43] <dark_suic> glad to hear that you are a girl btw :)
[12:43] <dark_suic> ninnghizidha, don't know about giving icons to konqueror, but you may create links with icons :)
[12:44] <Hobbsee> dark_suic: no problems :)
[12:44] <ninnghizidha> links with icons? how does it work? sounds interesting ...
[12:45] <Hobbsee> symlinks?
[12:45] <dark_suic> Hobbsee, i'm glad to hear of girls around here, at university, about 30 girls in the computers classes and NOONE with linux...
[12:45] <dark_suic> yeah, that was what i was trying to say
[12:45] <Hobbsee> yes, i've met very few other girls  who use linux
[12:45] <dark_suic> you can just create links to the folders
[12:45] <dark_suic> and that links will have icons that you can edit :)
[12:45] <sorush20> ninnghizidha: really
[12:45] <ninnghizidha> oh! great!
[12:46] <sorush20> where you form?
[12:46] <dark_suic> ninnghizidha, now you can edit the icon :D
[12:46] <ninnghizidha> yeah .. but only one is attractive :-P
[12:48] <ninnghizidha> sees to work, but doenst show the result ... O_O
[12:48] <ninnghizidha> but i got the trick i guess...
[12:48] <ninnghizidha> thanks a lot
[12:49] <dark_suic> nevermind :)
[12:50] <ninnghizidha> Now it worked! ugly as hell!
[12:50] <ninnghizidha> :-D
[12:51] <dark_suic> :)
[12:53] <ninnghizidha> can i turn the konqueror-preview off for a specific folder? O_O
[12:54] <nikol> what is the differences from ubuntu??
[12:54] <Hobbsee> not that i've found, but i havent looked too far
[12:54] <Hobbsee> !kubuntu
[12:54] <ubotu> I heard kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[12:55] <GameOver> Hey guys.. question about mplayer.... how come when i increase the size of the window... or go fullscreen.... the video doesnt get bigger just the black box around it?
[12:55] <GameOver> anyway to fix this?
[12:56] <GameOver> hello?
[12:57] <ninnghizidha> its not a bug.
[12:57] <ninnghizidha> but try to call it with --fullscreen
[12:57] <ninnghizidha> (or --zoom .. cant rememeR)
[12:57] <GameOver> k go into fullscreen
[12:57] <GameOver> but like i said the video doesnt get bigger
[12:58] <hawking> I want to install kubuntu but I have an 5.10 ubuntu cd so I just need to install it as "server" and then install kde right?
[12:58] <ninnghizidha> you can just install ubuntu as usual and install kde afterwards ... like me .. works great
[12:58] <Hobbsee> hawking: did you want gnome or not?
[12:58] <hawking> Hobbsee : I don'T want it
[12:59] <Hobbsee> right, then do a server install, and sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:59] <hawking> Hobbsee : thanks
[12:59] <Hobbsee> hawking: no problems
[12:59] <Knowerrors>  Anyone know a way to make a dialup modem auto disconnect when the call waiting beep begins?  Like a way to be more sensitivie to line noise maybe
[01:00] <GameOver> also... my mplayer does not play streaming wmv or real video... any ideas?
[01:00] <Hobbsee> !restrictedformats
[01:00] <ubotu> I heard restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[01:00] <Hobbsee> GameOver: anything there on it?
[01:01] <GameOver> hobbsee: i type this in the terminal
[01:01] <GameOver> oops i see what u did
[01:02] <GameOver> HObbsee: is there a better alternative than mplayer?
[01:02] <Hobbsee> um...
[01:02] <Hobbsee> kaffeine, maybe?
[01:03] <duckdown> How do I go about watching divx/xvid in X? XMMS isn't doing it
[01:03] <duckdown> ive got a laptop
[01:03] <duckdown> so its kinda part of it
[01:04] <GameOver> hobbsee: nothing is in there about streaming video
[01:04] <Hobbsee> oh, i thougth there was, sorry
[01:05] <hawking> do I need to do aptitude clean and then sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop and sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to reinstall kde?
[01:05] <_tj> Go to the restricted formats wiki and install the codecs listed (real, wmv, etc) provided they're legal where you live ;)
[01:05] <Hobbsee> hawking: sudo aptitude clean, sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop, sudo aptitude isntall kubuntu-desktop, i'm presuming will work
[01:05] <hawking> Hobbsee : we'll see :)
[01:05] <Hobbsee> _tj: hehe, and if they're not, too bad!
[01:06] <_tj> After that, Xine should be able to play all of the formats
[01:06] <hawking> Hobbsee : trying right now... will get back to say the result ;)
[01:06] <Hobbsee> ok
[01:06] <GameOver> so is there any need for a anti virus or spyware programs in linux
[01:07] <Hobbsee> nope
[01:07] <_tj> Nope
[01:07] <Altura> can someone tell me how to make firefox my default web browser?
[01:07] <Hobbsee> Altura: in kcontrol, kde something, default settings
[01:07] <_tj> If you're paranoid you could try clamav, I don't know much about it though. Generally, no, there's no need for antivirus. And spyware in linux just does not exist.
[01:08] <GameOver> ok... now i also noticed that if i play my music at a higher volume it sounds staticy... never did that b4
[01:08] <_tj> sudo apt-get install clamav
[01:08] <DehydratedHobbse> Altura: kcontrol, kde components, component chooser
[01:08] <GameOver> thanks
[01:08] <Altura> thank you
[01:09] <GameOver> any thoughts about my sound question
[01:11] <_tj> GameOver - I would do alsamixer in a console and make sure nothing is maxed out (but that it all is at a decent level)
[01:11] <tech9iner> so me new kMates.. ;] 
[01:12] <hawking> is there a way to make apt-get print out all my instaleld packages?
[01:13] <hawking> or can i save them to a text file with adept?
[01:13] <GameOver> pcm and cd are at 100... master is at 94
[01:13] <_tj> That doesn't sound like it would cause too much trouble
[01:14] <_tj> Maybe turn master down a few notches and turn the actual speaker volume up
[01:14] <tech9iner> anyone having failed checksums after downloading torrent from http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso.torrent please?
[01:14] <sampan> hawking, dpkg -L  should list packages ... and you could pipe it to a text file?
[01:14] <hawking> it gives this : --listfiles needs at least one package name argument
[01:15] <GameOver> ok its a lil better
[01:15] <sampan> hawking, yeah ... drat, i know i did this once myself.
[01:15] <hawking> any other ideas?
[01:16] <_tj> Lemme try something hawking, one sec
[01:16] <hawking> ok
[01:16] <sampan> i think it's dpkg --get-selections
[01:17] <sampan> that will output packages and their state/status -- you can pipe it to a txt file of course
[01:17] <_tj> dpkg -l
[01:17] <DehydratedHobbse> sampan: you are correct
[01:17] <_tj> Lowercase l lists the installed packages, I believe
[01:17] <sampan> dehydratedhobbse  w00t!  i got one right!!
[01:17] <sampan> :X
[01:17] <DehydratedHobbse> hehe!
[01:18] <DehydratedHobbse> dpkg --get-selections >/home/user/blah
[01:18] <DehydratedHobbse> and i only know that because kkathman-away told me :)
[01:18] <GameOver> ok next question... how do  i load module insmod nvram?
[01:18] <hawking> thanks guys
[01:18] <GameOver> i want it to detect my ibm thinkpad laptop
[01:18] <sampan> lol -- i saw it once in #ubuntu and did it -- but then managed to forget the command -- good thing there's "man" around
[01:19] <DehydratedHobbse> hehe!
[01:19] <DehydratedHobbse> yes, i do that a lot as well - that's where "history | grep foo" comes in handy
[01:22] <sampan> ahhhh, i forget about nice tools like history too
[01:22] <hawking> by the way how can i remount a filesystem as writable? when I install linux normally the hotplug doesn't work since this is a laptop so I gotta move hotplug scrips  away but it says read only filesystem
[01:22] <sampan> way too many years on mouse-only GUI OS :x
[01:22] <hawking> I just forgot the command to do that writable
[01:22] <_tj> GameOver, nvram is for the thinkpad buttons essentially, correct?
[01:22] <hawking> it was smth like sudo mount -a remount -wn or smth but I don't remember and this doesn't work
[01:23] <Hobbsee> hawking: modify /etc/fstab
[01:23] <Hobbsee> man mount
[01:23] <tech9iner> so any kMates used any mobile phone tool apps on a motorola i355 cell perchance yet?..
[01:23] <hawking> Hobbsee : you can't do that as the filesystem is read only
[01:24] <hawking> I can't modify any files
[01:24] <hawking> I just need the command to do that
[01:24] <ninnghizidha> my system-sound latency is really low .. is there a good fix around?
[01:24] <tech9iner> furthermore.. any input on best available apps for same.. cellular data exchange via data cables?
[01:24] <_tj> Wouldn't you umount the system and remount it rw? Or?
[01:26] <GameOver> yes tj
[01:28] <Rocco83> hi
[01:28] <Rocco83> how can i say to kubuntu to not mount automatically my usb disk?
[01:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hey guys, i just successfully installed ie6 with wine
[01:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> can i ask you a thing? does plugins installation work?
[01:31] <callie> evening
[01:31] <_tj> Tallia, can't say for sure but I would assume some would. I would check the wine site, I beleive they have a page dedicated to IE
[01:31] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see, tnx
[01:34] <gillion> greetings
[01:35] <gillion> I upgraded an ubuntu 5.10 system to use the kubuntu packages. However  whenever I shut down KDE konsole crashes
[01:35] <gillion> any ideas
[01:37] <_tj> Gillion, what version of KDE are you using? Do you know?
[01:38] <_tj> GamOver, if you're still here and need nvram I think you need to - (insmod nvram) and create a device node (mknod /dev/nvram c 10 144)
[01:39] <_tj> I don't have a thinkpad, but that's what some googling turned up for me
[01:40] <_tj> Tallia1Kubuntu, what plugins in particular were you asking about?
[01:49] <AdTheRat> Hey All, I'm having a problem with php5 and apache2
[01:50] <AdTheRat> Currently running Kubuntu Breezy. And my problem is as followed
[01:51] <AdTheRat> When access any php extentions files, nothing is parsed, no output, no error, nothing loads in firefox on my other machine
[01:52] <poimen> sup!?
[01:52] <AdTheRat> Hey
[01:52] <poimen> hi :)
[01:53] <AdTheRat> Think you could help with a problem?
[01:53] <poimen> sure I will try :)
[01:53] <AdTheRat> Currently running Kubuntu Breezy. And my problem is as followed
[01:53] <AdTheRat> When access any php extentions files, nothing is parsed, no output, no error, nothing loads in firefox on my other machine.
[01:53] <AdTheRat> Yet any html is loaded fine. (Of course, with Apache2 is running)
[01:54] <poimen> I dont really kwon nothing about that :(
[01:54] <AdTheRat> darnt
[01:54] <poimen> it worked before in other distro or on hoary?
[01:54] <AdTheRat> well..
[01:55] <AdTheRat> don't know if it worked in hoary, cause php5 isn't supported
[01:55] <AdTheRat> but php4 works fine in hoary
[01:55] <poimen> check on #php
[01:55] <AdTheRat> ok, I'll give that a try
[01:55] <poimen> sorry I could help
[01:55] <AdTheRat> it's alright, you tired
[01:56] <AdTheRat> unlike the #ubuntu channel, feels like no-one is listening to me
[01:56] <poimen> but I dont kwon nothing about websites lol I upload files to a server from the isp and I make the website with mozilla composer lol
[01:57] <poimen> someonetimes that happens
[01:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> _tj: it's a plugin on craftytv to see streaming video
[01:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i tried to install firefox too
[01:57] <AdTheRat> oou, that's another problem I had ^^;
[01:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and the plugin have been downloaded... but it seems that it's not working too..
[01:58] <AdTheRat> firefox doesn't like me via apt-get
[01:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[01:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> why don't you simply get the package from the website?
[01:58] <poimen> install firefox 1.5 from the tar.gz in the firefox website
[01:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it's a binary package...
[01:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> 1.0.7
[01:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> 1.5 is for windows
[01:59] <poimen> no...
[01:59] <poimen> I have 1.5 installed in linux :)
[01:59] <poimen> in breezy :)
[02:00] <AdTheRat> I think.. enought time has passed.. shall I try #ubuntu again?
[02:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> poimen: ?
[02:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> isn't 1.5 for linux?
[02:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> wind*
[02:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> why do i have only 1.0.7?
[02:05] <AdTheRat> did you use apt-get?
[02:05] <poimen> ???
[02:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> no
[02:05] <AdTheRat> ok
[02:05] <poimen> I use apt-get always
[02:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i downloaded from web
[02:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yeah.. but sometimes in apt they are not updated
[02:06] <poimen> but firefox 1.5 will no tbe on kubuntu intill next relese
[02:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :(
[02:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ooo..
[02:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see
[02:06] <bimberi> !ff1.5
[02:06] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:06] <stzack> Someone could help me with gtk2-engines-gtk-qt package?
[02:07] <stzack> I searched a lot, I couldn't find version 0.60-2
[02:07] <stzack> this version includes a patch for black menu bugs...
[02:07] <stzack> anyone knows anything?
[02:07] <poimen> I dont
[02:08] <poimen> try in ubuntu also
[02:08] <kalenedrael> I dunno.
[02:08] <poimen> #ubuntu
[02:08] <stzack> This afects ubuntu too.
[02:08] <stzack> and debian.
[02:08] <stzack> OK poimen...
[02:08] <stzack> thanks
[02:08] <crimsun> what specific patch is it?
[02:08] <crimsun> i.e., what does it touch?
[02:08] <poimen> sorry but looks like here we are like 5 alive
[02:09] <stzack> I hava the patch here
[02:09] <poimen> people working or playing with the beta vercion or something
[02:09] <crimsun> Breezy's gtk2-engines-gtk-qt already has a cairo patch applied
[02:09] <stzack> I'm at debian now..
[02:09] <stzack> This package works for me...
[02:10] <stzack> someone knows a URL for it?
[02:10] <crimsun> "works for me" isn't strong enough to validate that it is correct.
[02:10] <stzack> ???
[02:10] <stzack> right
[02:10] <stzack> let me explain.
[02:11] <stzack> Kurumin, is a Linux distro basead on Debain..
[02:11] <stzack> and...
[02:11] <stzack> I testing beta, and helping de project leader.
[02:12] <crimsun> no, I need specific upstream bug #s
[02:12] <stzack> he got the problem with the package
[02:12] <crimsun> both #4082 and #4276 have been fixed in Dapper's 0.60-1.1ubuntu1
[02:13] <stzack> and a lot of Kurumin users, Debian, and Ubuntu got the same problem.
[02:13] <stzack> This problem appears when you updade GTK
[02:13] <stzack> to a new version (2.8 I think)
[02:13] <stzack> menus get black.
[02:13] <stzack> and other little buggy stuff.
[02:14] <crimsun> 19:12 < crimsun> no, I need specific upstream bug #s
[02:14] <stzack> I know, but..
[02:14] <stzack> I don't know its #s
[02:15] <stzack> I think that I have links here that can help to discribe better..
[02:15] <stzack> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-106157.html
[02:16] <crimsun> that was fixed on November 30th with this upload: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/dapper-changes/2005-November/002044.html
[02:16] <stzack> http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2005/12/msg00301.html
[02:17] <stzack> http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2005/12/msg00301.html
[02:17] <stzack> but, where I can get the package?
[02:18] <crimsun> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gtk-qt-engine/gtk-qt-engine_0.60-1.1ubuntu2.dsc http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gtk-qt-engine/gtk-qt-engine_0.60.orig.tar.gz http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gtk-qt-engine/gtk-qt-engine_0.60-1.1ubuntu2.diff.gz
[02:18] <stzack> OK thanks lots!!!!
[02:19] <crimsun> you must build it yourself. You can't just download Dapper's binary package and install it.
[02:19] <stzack> I know it...
[02:19] <stzack> but I have a last request..
[02:19] <stzack> do you know if there are a .deb avaliable?
[02:19] <crimsun> yes, for Dapper there certainly is.
[02:19] <stzack> OK...
[02:20] <crimsun> it's straight-forward to build it for Breezy.
[02:20] <stzack> I know that I'm bothering you, I sorry... you know where I can find it?
[02:21] <crimsun> sudo apt-get build-dep gtk2-engines-gtk-qt && wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gtk-qt-engine/gtk-qt-engine_0.60.orig.tar.gz http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gtk-qt-engine/gtk-qt-engine_0.60-1.1ubuntu2.diff.gz && tar xfz gtk-qt-engine_0.60.orig.tar.gz && cd gtk-qt-engine_0.60 && zcat ../gtk-qt-engine_0.60-1.1ubuntu2.diff.gz|patch -p1 && chmod +x debian/rules && fakeroot debian/rules binary
[02:21] <crimsun> the Dapper deb will be useless to you in Breezy.
[02:21] <stzack> I understand...
[02:22] <stzack> version incompatibility?
[02:22] <crimsun> yes
[02:22] <stzack> OK.
[02:22] <crimsun> I just gave you the instructions above anyhow.
[02:22] <stzack> Helped a lot, thanks.
[02:22] <stzack> I'll try right now
[02:23] <stzack> I can use it as a script?
[02:23] <crimsun> err, sorry, you don't need sudo apt-get build-dep
[02:23] <stzack> hmmm OK.
[02:23] <crimsun> apt-get build-dep will do just fine
[02:24] <crimsun> err
[02:24] <crimsun> I don't know what I'm talking about, you do need sudo
[02:24] <stzack> hahaha
[02:24] <crimsun> sorry, I've been awake for 72 hours
[02:24] <stzack> that's OK.
[02:24] <stzack> thanks.
[02:24] <stzack> man... you should rest...
[02:24] <tech9iner> dayamnnn! crimsun ! rofl.. is that one monster single install command
[02:24] <bimberi> crimsun: that's essentially a one line backporting process?
[02:25] <crimsun> bimberi: pretty much.
[02:25] <tech9iner> g'day bimberi
[02:25] <bimberi> tech9iner: hi :)
[02:25] <stzack> crimsun, rest a bit man, I'm sure, that you helped many peolple here already, lol
[02:27] <stzack> lol
[02:30] <cobelloy> hi there, does anyone know anything about iptables?
[02:33] <cobelloy> is there anyone here at all?
[02:35] <mazee> No.
[02:35] <mazee> and thats because you came in.
[02:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> someone can tell me why if i click a link inside conversation, firefox download the page on temp folder and then open it instead of opening it directly?
[02:54] <Okita> I'm writing this from a Powerbook with Airport Extreme... should I be using the devicescape or SoftMAC layer?
[03:11] <m_tadeu> hi
[03:12] <m_tadeu> why can't I ping to my ip?
[03:13] <callie> firewall?
[03:15] <m_tadeu> desabled
[03:21] <callie> and you're trying to ping your local address ?
[03:22] <m_tadeu> the locahost pings just fine...when I ping my ip, i get no response
[03:22] <callie> not local host
[03:22] <callie> local address
[03:23] <callie> how are you connected to the internet?
[03:23] <m_tadeu> mmm...what is the local address?
[03:23] <m_tadeu> my ip?
[03:23] <callie> adsl ? dial up?
[03:23] <callie> cable modem?
[03:24] <m_tadeu> umts modem
[03:24] <callie> umts?
[03:24] <m_tadeu> but its similar to a dial up, i guess
[03:24] <callie> ok
[03:25] <m_tadeu> well, its gsm, gprs and umts
[03:25] <m_tadeu> mobile network
[03:25] <callie> i see
[03:26] <callie> why are you worried that you cant ping your ip?
[03:26] <GameOver> hey guys... i was wondering... is there any reason why i cant get a fullscreen or zoomed in video in MPLAYER.... all it does when i choose those options is enlarge the black space around the video
[03:26] <m_tadeu> callie: because i have a webserver, and i can't access it anymore...
[03:27] <callie> read the manual GameOver its all explained in there
[03:27] <callie> m_tadeu: ah, i see, you're trying to ping another computer
[03:27] <callie> sounded like you where trying to ping the computer you where using
[03:28] <m_tadeu> callie: I am...
[03:28] <callie> ok, well im confused then
[03:29] <callie> im not sure what you're trying to do
[03:29] <m_tadeu> mmm...I have apache on my pc, but no one can access my pc
[03:30] <callie> probably a port issue then
[03:30] <callie> unfortunatly something im not sure about
[03:30] <bimberi> m_tadeu: is the address 62.169.96.5 ? (ie. where you're IRC-ing from)
[03:30] <m_tadeu> yes
[03:30] <bimberi> m_tadeu: i can ping and browse that
[03:31] <m_tadeu> and its the same as my webserver
[03:31] <callie> i can see it here too
[03:31] <bimberi> m_tadeu: apache2_defaults, squid_reports, webalizer
[03:31] <m_tadeu> i just restarted my ppp connection and its working fine...i don't get it :(
[03:31] <bimberi> *default
[03:32] <GameOver> fs (also see -zoom)
[03:32] <GameOver> 	Fullscreen playback (centers movie, and paints black bands around it). Not supported by all video output drivers.
[03:32] <GameOver> callie: read through it doesnt solve my problem.... above is what it stated
[03:33] <callie> did you also see zoom?
[03:33] <m_tadeu> bimberi: thats it....just should have access before restart the connection :(
[03:33] <GameOver> 	-aspect <ratio> (also see -zoom)
[03:33] <GameOver> 	Override movie aspect ratio, in case aspect infor- mation is incorrect or missing in the file being played.
[03:33] <GameOver> 	EXAMPLE:
[03:33] <GameOver> 	-aspect 4:3 or -aspect 1.3333
[03:33] <GameOver> -aspect 16:9 or -aspect 1.7777
[03:33] <GameOver> thats all it says
[03:33] <GameOver> callie
[03:33] <GameOver> and i can do that in the player yet it still puts black bars aroudn the picture
[03:35] <callie> look for 'pan and scan'
[03:36] <m_tadeu> thanks anyway guys...i'll bother you once it happens again :)
[03:39] <GameOver> callie: i searched and found a few pan and scan thingsl... dont know what to apply.. can u please tell me
[03:41] <ratko> konnte mir jemandem sagen was kann man machen wenn man den root password vergist
[03:43] <callie> probably using a video output plugin that doesn't support resizing
[03:43] <callie> (e.g. -vo x11.) Try another one that does support this (-vo xv is
[03:43] <callie> recommended.)
[03:44] <GameOver> callie: im a c omplete noob.. can u tell me how to download/implement this
[03:44] <callie> im not an mplayer user sorry
[03:45] <GameOver> ok.... whats better than mplayer
[03:45] <GameOver> and i will use it
[03:46] <callie> you're using Kubuntu ?
[03:46] <GameOver> yes sir
[03:47] <robotgeek> GameOver: vlc?
[03:47] <robotgeek> GameOver: or install kaffeine-xine
[03:47] <callie> you already have Kaffeine then GameOver
[03:47] <GameOver> which is better vlc or kaffein... and do either have a browser plugin?
[03:48] <callie> GameOver: if you're new might i also recommend you check out automatix
[03:48] <GameOver> i have it
[03:48] <callie> cool ;)
[03:48] <GameOver> callie: thats wher ei got mplayer
[03:48] <GameOver> and all the plugins
[03:48] <callie> lol
[03:49] <GameOver> so do u recommend vlc or kaffeine?
[03:49] <GameOver> and does iether have mozilla plugins?
[03:50] <callie> vlc does i believe
[03:50] <callie> but i dont use it
[03:50] <GameOver> kaffeine doesnt then?
[03:51] <robotgeek> GameOver: vlc also has a mozilla plugin, i believe
[03:51] <GameOver> which is more functional and which one is skinnable/prettier lol
[03:51] <callie> dude
[03:51] <callie> get them both
[03:51] <callie> check it out
[03:52] <GameOver> ok ok!
[03:52] <GameOver> lol
[03:53] <callie> i mean come on, give yourself a break here, noob you may be. but im sure you can decide between two programs
[03:53] <GameOver> lol yea yea
[03:53] <callie> lol
[03:53] <callie> :D
[03:53] <callie> heya robotgeek
[03:53] <GameOver> im gettin good with linux though... in a week ive learned alot
[03:53] <callie> i aint no linux guru yet
[03:54] <callie> far from it
[03:54] <GameOver> if ur far from it im afraid ot think whaht i am
[03:54] <callie> me about 2 years ago?
[03:55] <GameOver> haha
[03:55] <GameOver> well vlc does what i want
[03:55] <GameOver> now i gotta see how it fares in mozilla
[03:55] <callie> and im going to eat pasta i think
[03:56] <GameOver> nice
[03:56] <robotgeek> hey callie
[03:56] <GameOver> hey robot
[03:56] <GameOver> vlc doesnt seem to be handling streamed media for me
[03:57] <robotgeek> GameOver: did you install the mozilla plugin
[03:57] <GameOver> robotgeek: yes
[03:58] <robotgeek> GameOver: in firefox, do a about:plugins, do you see vlc there?
[03:59] <GameOver> one sec
[03:59] <PaloDeQueso> nm
[04:00] <GameOver> robotgeek: yes its there...
[04:01] <robotgeek> GameOver: maybe the mplayer plugin is conflicting, i am not sure.
[04:01] <GameOver> robotgeek: i unstialled it
[04:03] <robotgeek> GameOver: sorry, not much idea about plugins in mozilla, i heard someone saying that konqueror played it fine if you set the file association
[04:04] <GameOver> if i get kaffein.... u said get the xine one?
[04:04] <GameOver> and if so whats the difference?
[04:04] <duckdown> Any Brick-Attack games I can download?
[04:05] <robotgeek> GameOver: if you get kaffeine-xine, it will replace the default gstreamer one, plus you will need to get w32codecs too
[04:07] <GameOver> i have them robot
[04:07] <GameOver> ok i will try it
[04:08] <GameOver> also.... how do i get rid of xmms without unistalling superkaramba
[04:08] <GameOver> seems like i cant get one without the other... or get rid of one without gettin rid of the other
[04:12] <dandielionous> Can someone tell me how to fdformat a floppy so that I can write to it?
[04:13] <dandielionous> Or what do I need to do to write to a floppy?
[04:21] <korkow> hey guys...
[04:21] <korkow> hey, anyone here...
[04:32] <rance> Im using the imap functions to open a mailbox, check the mail, see if any of the message headers match what we are looking for, if they do, then we read the message body into a variable and do some stuff.  My problem is when the message is a multipart message, I need a way to access the text part, I know I need to use the imap_structure to figure out which part I need to look at, but im confused about what to do next
[04:33] <rance> I have some code samples, and the manual pages tell me what im supposed to do, but what Im doing is only generating syntax errors
[04:34] <rance> o sorry guys wrong room
[04:37] <eidolon> hi folks - i'm feeling a little lost here.  I'd like mp3 support in amarok... but i'm being sent over to fluendo by a couple pointers.  they want me to go through a store to download something - doesn't seem to make sense.  iwhats the 'proper' way to get mp3 support in a kubuntu (latest release) kubuntuinstall with kde 3.5?
[04:39] <leftist> hi
[04:39] <leftist> what can i use for flash? i use nvu but what baout flash?
[04:39] <leftist> nvu is my dreamweaver
[04:39] <leftist> but what about flash?
[04:40] <leftist> thanks
[04:40] <sampan> eidolon  mp3 is a 'restricted format' ... but see the link that the bot, ubotu, will post in a moment -- it should get you going if you follow the directions (providing it's legal for you to do so in your country) ;)
[04:40] <sampan> !restrictedformats
[04:40] <ubotu> [restrictedformats]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:41] <flipjarg> hi all
[04:41] <flipjarg> can firefox be installed on Kubuntu?
[04:42] <sampan> flipjarg  yes.  1.0.7 is just an apt-get away.  1.5 is more work (b/c it's not in the repos until dapper is released) but also possible
[04:42] <sampan> !info firefox
[04:42] <ubotu> firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 (breezy), Packaged size: 8268 kB, Installed size: 23932 kB
[04:42] <sampan> !firefox1.5
[04:43] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:43] <flipjarg> what do i type then, i've tried "apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[04:43] <sampan> flipjarg  if you have the repositories enabled, then it's just "sudo apt-get install firefox" ... or mozilla-firefox -- i forget which
[04:43] <bimberi> either
[04:43] <sampan> oh heh :) thanks bimberi
[04:43] <flipjarg> great, i have to set up repos then.
[04:44] <bimberi> sampan: np :)
[04:44] <eidolon> thanks sampan - i think i've been there, but let me look atgain.
[04:44] <slingblade> I have a n00b question about the Kubuntu boot Splash screen
[04:44] <sampan> flipjarg  that's easy.  open adept, look at the top menubar, click on "Adept", then click the "manage repositories" entry. DISABLE the first line (your breezy cdrom), then enable any line with universe and/or multiverse in it
[04:45] <arbir> hi
[04:45] <arbir> anybody here ?
[04:45] <eidolon> the problem with that page is it links to the reposiutory update which uses synaptic
[04:45] <slingblade> upon boot up I see the Grub menu, then the Splash screen...Loading Modules. 10-15 secs later it goes back to verbose instead of the scrolling boot
[04:45] <eidolon> and i'm using kde :)
[04:45] <sampan> or if you're comfy editing a text file, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list  or kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list ... and uncomment the lines (remove the #) that have universe/multiverse in them
[04:45] <eidolon> i tried simply uncommenting these lines in sources.list:
[04:45] <slingblade> been doing this since the first install
[04:45] <eidolon> hah
[04:46] <eidolon> i did that :)
[04:46] <eidolon> and have:
[04:46] <eidolon> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:46] <sampan> you're on dapper?
[04:46] <arbir> Hello....
[04:46] <eidolon> i'm on flight-2... whatever the latest and greatest is?
[04:46] <arbir> can anybody please help me with setting my DPI ?
[04:47] <sampan> eidolon, ahhh, well i have no idea what the state of the dapper repositories are-- it's quite unstable at the moment and you can't expect it to work well -- it's NOT ready for release
[04:47] <eidolon> ah :(
[04:47] <eidolon> i'll suffer i suppose :(
[04:47] <flipjarg> sampan: thanks, i was just searching google and some forums, wasn't finding anything.
[04:47] <bimberi> eidolon: did you "sudo apt-get update" ?
[04:47] <sampan> flipjarg  no problem :)
[04:47] <eidolon> hmm.  yes...  but.
[04:47] <eidolon> wait.
[04:48] <eidolon> GNAR!
[04:48] <eidolon> apt-cache update is NOT apt-get update.
[04:49] <slingblade> can someone help me on a boot splash issue?
[04:49] <eidolon> yay!  there's gstreamer8.0-mad!
[04:50] <slingblade> anyone?
[04:51] <slingblade> I'm trying to figure out why my boot splash will not stay up and it reverts to text mode after I see the splash
[04:51] <slingblade> LiveCD will show mw the Splash screen with the scrolling bar and Blue text but not after the install.
[04:51] <Khris_dx> How can I test my 3D Video Card? GL Screen Savers are extremely slow.
[04:52] <slingblade> Can anyone give a friendly NEWB a hand here?
[04:53] <kkathman> wassup slingblade :)
[04:53] <sampan> slingblade  sorry -- i don't know anything about bootsplash.  (I've rebooted my breezy like twice -- last time was nearly 60 days ago.)
[04:53] <slingblade> hi kkathman
[04:53] <slingblade> here's the issue
[04:53] <kkathman> howdy
[04:53] <slingblade> booting up, I see the Grub menu......
[04:53] <sampan> khris_dx  have you installed drivers for your vid card?
[04:54] <slingblade> then I see the Splash screen...
[04:54] <slingblade> 10-15sec later it reverts back to text mode booting....
[04:54] <slingblade> cant figure out why
[04:54] <kkathman> yah ok
[04:54] <kkathman> I'll bet it gets hung up on something
[04:54] <slingblade> I think so too
[04:54] <kkathman> thats what happens occasionally with mine
[04:54] <slingblade> but dont know what log to look at
[04:55] <kkathman> try looking at dmesg maybe
[04:55] <slingblade> can you tell me where its located?
[04:55] <kkathman> should just be able to type dmesg at the konsole
[04:55] <slingblade> let me try
[04:56] <slingblade> OK...what should I be looking for
[04:56] <flipjarg> i'm haivng trouble installing firefox. i've enabled repos containing "multiverse" and "universe" but it will not install with apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[04:56] <flipjarg> can anyone help?
[04:56] <kkathman> slingblade should look for things that failed
[04:56] <kkathman> if not failed, then maybe its your network?
[04:56] <slingblade> I am assuming it will say FAILED
[04:56] <kkathman> perhaps
[04:56] <slingblade> ah
[04:57] <sampan> flipjarg  what's the error?
[04:57] <kkathman> maybe not tho... if, for instance there is an extended time it takes to connect to the network it falls into that text mode
[04:57] <flipjarg> sec...
[04:57] <eidolon> sampan, i'm up and running, mp3 is working perfectly.  amarok is a helluva an app.  thanks :)
[04:57] <sampan> eidolon  glad it worked!  :)
[04:57] <kkathman> sampan is THE man :)
[04:57] <Khris_dx> Sampan: I gues not, How do I do this?
[04:57] <sampan> pffffft kkathman -- i'm newb
[04:58] <kkathman> sampan hardly :)
[04:58] <sampan> khris_dx  what's your card?
[04:58] <flipjarg> Package mozilla-firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:58] <flipjarg> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:58] <flipjarg> is only available from another source
[04:58] <flipjarg> sampan: ^
[04:58] <sampan> flipjarg  have you done: sudo apt-get update  ?
[04:58] <sampan> probably your package list just hasn't been refreshed after enabling the repos
[04:58] <Khris_dx> sampan: 3dfx voodoo 4500
[04:59] <flipjarg> sampan: ah, i didn't think of that, i've changed repos but haven't updated yet with the new repos. i'll try.
[05:00] <flipjarg> sampan: it's update, i'm sure that probably it.
[05:00] <sampan> khris_dx  oh. i have no idea which drivers -- or even if there are updated ones beyond the generic ones.  have you tried searching the ubuntu forums?
[05:00] <slingblade> swsusp: Suspend partition has wrong signature?
[05:00] <slingblade> kkathman......I do see this...
[05:00] <sampan> flipjarg  hope so!
[05:01] <Khris_dx> sampan: no, a few other linux distro had it built in
[05:01] <kkathman> slingblade  see what?
[05:02] <slingblade> swsusp: Suspend partition has wrong signature?
[05:02] <sampan> khris_dx  could be with ubuntu too.  i'm not sure -- usually see nvidia/ati stuff for 3d -- so i'm not sure what the deal is for 3dfx voodoo.
[05:03] <slingblade> this is a laptop BTW
[05:03] <Khris_dx> sampan: okay thanks, do u have forum website?
[05:03] <slingblade> funy thing is the LIVECD doesn't behave this way
[05:04] <kkathman> slingblade dunno what that is actually, you might try Googling that
[05:04] <slingblade> k
[05:04] <sampan> khris_dx  http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php   -- good luck -- sorry i didn't have a clue
[05:05] <Khris_dx> sampan: thanks again
[05:05] <sampan> ;x
[05:06] <flipjarg> sampan: no go.
[05:07] <sampan> flipjarg  hrmmm.  same error?
[05:07] <flipjarg> yep:
[05:07] <flipjarg> Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:07] <flipjarg> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:07] <flipjarg> is only available from another source
[05:07] <sampan> !info firefox
[05:07] <ubotu> firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 (breezy), Packaged size: 8268 kB, Installed size: 23932 kB
[05:07] <sampan> maybe i had you enable the wrong repos ;X
[05:07] <flipjarg> should i enable all of them?
[05:08] <sampan> flipjarg  yeah maybe, except the "backports" lines -- i don't think there are many backports yet so maybe leave those disabled
[05:08] <flipjarg> i'll give it a try.
[05:13] <GameOver> anyone here have any experience with vlc here?
[05:17] <flipjarg> sampan: still no go.
[05:17] <flipjarg> sampan: still the same error.
[05:18] <sampan> hrmmm ... that's really strange.  can you post your /ect/apt/sources.list to pastebin?
[05:18] <sampan> !pastebin
[05:18] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:19] <flipjarg> sure.
[05:19] <GameOver> anyone know why firefox 1.5 hasnt come out for kubuntu yet?
[05:19] <kkathman> GameOver because its so easy to download, untar and go
[05:19] <kkathman> doesnt need to be packaged
[05:20] <kkathman> just download, untar, set a symlink
[05:20] <kkathman> done
[05:20] <GameOver> well i did that but i cant run it... and what is a symlink... im a newb
[05:20] <sampan> kkathman  do all the plugins and such still work that way?  (haven't bothered to install 1.5)
[05:21] <kkathman> GameOver just simply install it in your $HOME, and then set your symlink to /usr/bin
[05:21] <flipjarg> sampan: posted it.
[05:21] <sampan> flipjarg  got a url for me?
[05:21] <GameOver> kkathman: whats a symlink
[05:21] <kkathman> sampan  can you tell GameOver how to do your symlink for FFox 1.5 ?
[05:21] <kkathman> its a symbolic link, GameOver  kinda like a shortcut in Windows
[05:22] <sampan> kkathman  lol ... i'd better let you -- i might muck it up (been a long time since i had to do a symlink even)
[05:22] <flipjarg> sampan: yeah, sorry. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6943
[05:22] <kkathman> nah you had it right last night dude, sampan :)
[05:23] <kkathman> GameOver  http://www.linux.com/howtos/XFree-Local-multi-user-HOWTO/sym_links.shtml
[05:23] <GameOver> thanks ill check it out
[05:24] <flipjarg> sampan: looks like i might not have applied the changes..
[05:24] <kkathman> basically GameOver you untar to your home dir, then you'll need to remove the /usr/bin/firefox  and then set the symlink there to point to the firefox in the $HOME/firefox
[05:24] <flipjarg> i've just updated again and made sure all of the repos are open. i'll give it a go here. sampan
[05:24] <sampan> flipjarg  okay, you should enable the repos on lines: 005, 010 at least
[05:25] <flipjarg> i think it's installing
[05:25] <flipjarg> pretty sure it is
[05:26] <flipjarg> thank you so much for all the help. i wouldn't have been able to do it without you.
[05:26] <sampan> more than welcome :)  glad it worked
[05:31] <jaakko> hello o/
[05:35] <kkathman> sampan you are on a roll dude :)
[05:36] <sampan> hah -- i got THREE right today
[05:36] <sampan> red-letter day!
[05:37] <kkathman> you da man :)
[05:37] <sampan> lol -- hardly... but, i do pick up bits from watching the real power-users and helpers do their thing
[05:37] <jaakko> i wonder if anyone could help me
[05:37] <kkathman> sampan but ya just share it along right?
[05:38] <sampan> jaakko  you have to actually tell people what the problem is before we (or you) will know if we can help or not! ;D
[05:38] <kkathman> hehe
[05:38] <kkathman> aww sampan arent your clairvoyant ?
[05:38] <sampan> kkathman  yep -- that's how it goes -- i got lots of help in here (still do when i mess crap up), so might as well spread the joy ;)
[05:39] <kkathman> absolutely
[05:39] <jaakko> well, i got my ubuntu cd's from shipit.com yesterday. i installed it, but i can't get wifi work (but in live-cd it works immediately)
[05:39] <sampan> plus, i'm still waiting for insanekane to come back to help me compile scim/skim properly ;x
[05:39] <jaakko> but the connection status just shows idle, it lets few packages through sometimes and it pings normally websites
[05:39] <jaakko> but i cant surf the web
[05:39] <kkathman> !ndiswrapper
[05:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[05:40] <kkathman> I suspect the live CD installs ndiswrapper maybe?
[05:40] <jaakko> maybe
[05:40] <sampan> jaakko  sorry to say i know -nothing- about wireless networking.  others may.  and if you don't get help in here, you might try asking in #ubuntu since it's a bigger chan
[05:41] <jaakko> the live cd comes with a software called wifimanager and the install version doesnt have it
[05:41] <kkathman> I dont know anything about it, but I know that most of the time they point people toward that wiki above
[05:42] <jaakko> i managed to open few sites, ping some websites so at some level it works
[05:42] <jaakko> but maybe i'll try that driver
[05:42] <sampan> hrmmmmm, my kde has wifimanager installed
[05:43] <sampan> kwifimanager* that is
[05:43] <sampan> !info kwifimanager
[05:43] <ubotu> kwifimanager: (wireless lan manager for KDE), section net, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 190 kB, Installed size: 680 kB
[05:44] <sampan> seems like if you were able to ping and surf that it MUST be working
[05:44] <sampan> or something is
[05:44] <sampan> maybe it's not optimally configured, but it had to be working since there's no way those packets flew through the air onto your computer without some help ;x
[05:45] <jaakko> sampan, i managed to open two sites (slow as hell) but most of the time it just says connection timed out etc.
[05:45] <sampan> hrmmm
[05:45] <jaakko> and the connection status says idle all the time. then it lets few kilos through, then it again goes idle
[05:46] <sampan> have you tried the network/wireless settings in system-settings and/or kcontrol ?
[05:46] <jaakko> oh boy have i :D
[05:46] <sampan> hahahaha
[05:47] <sampan> i wish i could help -- but i really know nothing about wireless.  if no one bites in here, maybe try #ubuntu
[05:53] <jaakko> and one other question. is there any built-in ssh terminal software in live cd?
[05:55] <GameOver> hey guys, when i use amaroK.... it ALWAYS says track not found, when u click on fill in tags using Music Brainz.... i dont even think it connects
[05:55] <GameOver> anyone know how to fix this>
[05:59] <GameOver> no one?
[05:59] <Blippe> GameOver wait a sec!
[05:59] <Blippe> i think i just read this in the wiki or the forum...
[06:00] <GameOver> ok, sorry my friend
[06:02] <_root> o
[06:04] <Blippe> ok, i think you have to download the ones from metwo at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85541&highlight=musicbrainz
[06:04] <Blippe> that is what I did.... :P
[06:06] <GameOver> alright man im gonna give it a shot, thanks
[06:07] <GameOver> now how do i run these blippe?
[06:07] <GameOver> im kinda noob
[06:11] <vader> Hello folks
[06:14] <iantec> hi, how can i restore my kde panel to its default i cant see the background apps icon like gaim and kopete anymore
[06:16] <sampan> iantec  right-click the panel. choose "configure panel", then hit the "defaults" button?  not sure, but that might restore it
[06:16] <iantec> it doesnt show up yet
[06:17] <sampan> do you remember what setting you changed to make those icons go away?
[06:19] <Blippe> GameOver you put the files in a folder then you run "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" (without "'s)
[06:20] <iantec> what i am missing are the icon near the clock....when i minimize koopete and gaim....i want them to bwe there....
[06:25] <sampan> iantc, do you have "show the system try icon" checked in KOPETE itself?
[06:25] <sampan> it's in settings/configure --> behavior
[06:26] <GameOver> hey how can i edit firefox... to get rid of plugins it still says i have installed..... like when i view about:plugins... i dont have mplayer btu it still lists it as my default?
[06:33] <iantec> when i need the su password which pasword do i have to give? because i am trying to install folding at home as a serevice and the terminal keeps on rejecting my password
[06:37] <sampan> iantec use sudo (with your own password) instead of "su"
[06:37] <sampan> but congrats on installing folding@home!  :)  always nice to see other people running that! it's a very worthy project
[06:39] <sampan> i didn't install it as a service though -- since i reboot so infrequently, i just start it manually (as per the instructions on f@h's site)
[06:39] <iantec> i tried using this "sudo ~/foldingathome/installService" but nothing happend
[06:40] <sampan> where are you seeing that as an instruction?
[06:40] <iantec> http://fahwiki.net/index.php/A_Complete_Guide_to_Using_FINSTALL_for_NEWbies#Installation_and_Set_Up
[06:41] <iantec> there im in number 13 already since i dont want to start it manually every time
[06:41] <sampan> ahhh, you're using the script for it?
[06:42] <iantec> yep finstall
[06:42] <sampan> iantec  that wiki doesn't say you need to be root to do that.
[06:43] <sampan> you should just be able to ~/foldingathome/installService
[06:43] <iantec> wait ill show you what happend  ..........iantec@ubuntu:~$ ~/foldingathome/installService
[06:43] <iantec> Installing FAH as a service...
[06:43] <iantec> Password:
[06:43] <iantec> su: Authentication failure
[06:43] <iantec> Sorry.
[06:46] <sampan> hrmmmmm ... have you tried searching on the f@h forums for ubuntu-specific help?
[06:46] <sampan> maybe the script doesn't agree well with ubuntu
[06:47] <iantec> well you are folding right?
[06:47] <iantec> what do you do to start it?
[06:47] <sampan> yes, but i manually start it everytime.  i only reboot once every 3-6 months, so i start it once and just let it run for months
[06:47] <sampan> i don't use the script
[06:51] <iantec> how do you start it manually? ./folding start?
[06:52] <sampan> no, since it's not a service -- ijust cd to the directory where i have the client (~/foldingathome) and then ./FAH502-linux.exe (or whatever the exe file is)
[06:53] <iantec> oh man...this is frustrating....i cant migrate totaly unless i am folding.
[06:54] <psyk> anyone know the easiest way to play Shn files
[06:54] <sampan> well if you don't reboot a lot, starting it manually every week/month/whatever isn't very hard -- but if it's a laptop or somethign that reboots often, then you definitely want it as a service
[06:54] <iantec> oh well.... too much for today., sampan cxan you help me restore my kde panel? i mean its messed, my icons for gaim and kopete are missing and they wopnt start up anymore.....
[06:54] <iantec> yeh i really want it as a service.
[06:55] <psyk> how do  i play shn files in kubuntu?
[06:55] <sampan> well i looked around in system-settings and kcontrol. i don't see anything about those panel icons.  have you checked to make sure that both Kopete and gaim have the option to put the icon in the system tray enabled?
[06:55] <rasputin> What
[06:56] <sampan> iantec  if the apps themselves have the option turned off, then the icons won't appear no matter what settings you have for the panel
[06:57] <iantec> but they where their when i hit exit they will be there last night but this morning there not there anyhmore it irritates me to see them in the panel i want their icons minimized near the clock
[06:59] <sampan> iantec, i'm baffled.  if they were there yesterday, they should be there today unless you changed something.
[07:00] <iantec> yes thats what i am thinking of...but i dont know what could make it change that.....all i did was minor changes to the panel like removing the trash button adding shortcuts and all that...so what i wna tto know now is how to restore it to its defaults so i can start again
[07:00] <Nero> Hello!
[07:01] <sampan> iantec, did you perhaps remove the whole 'system tray' from the panel?
[07:01] <sampan> iantec  right click the panel --> add to panel --> applet ... and see if system tray is there
[07:01] <sampan> if so, click it -- that should add it back to the panel
[07:03] <iantec> lol thats it...hahah sorry man i was also finding it ahahha
[07:03] <sampan> hahaha no worries -- just glad you found it :D
[07:04] <iantec> man im like a kindergarten first time to set on a computer whew.....what a journey this is from windows....but its fun although really difficult
[07:04] <sampan> it's different for sure (i just switched 6 months ago myself) -- but if you are patient you'll get the hang quick enough (and the people here in ubuntu-land are very helpful)
[07:05] <sampan> i suspect installing f@h as a service isn't hard on ubuntu, i'm just not sure which script or which directory you'd need to deal with to do that
[07:06] <iantec> yah , i tried suse 9.3 and 10,,,, very frustrating especially when you need help,,, i eman here i am am so ready to learn but doing so simple tasks are too hard to do especially if you dont have the back ground using the terminal its just impossible to customize it on your own.
[07:06] <sampan> and i think that's where the finstall script is messing up too -- different distros have different files/directories for boot sequences, so i bet it just isn't set to handle ubuntu -- if i were you, i'd register and post on the f@h forums. someone there should know
[07:07] <iantec> i tried ubuntu then found this channel....and oh people are nice....
[07:07] <sampan> the terminal is daunting at first, but if you get past the fear, it's really a great way to do things -- much faster much of the time
[07:09] <iantec> yeh i guess. i mean i thinkall i need is to learn more and more experience...
[07:10] <sampan> yep :)  as long as you're willing to google and come ask on irc you'll get the hang quick enough
[07:12] <iantec> yeh i always read stuff...but often i get too little most of the sites i go to are not to detailed .... specially on what i want to do and most of the times their exmples are different from what i want to have....anyways do you have good newbie sites aside from ubuntu? and distro watch and the other common sites?
[07:13] <sampan> depends on how basic you want. :)  there's a lot of linux info out there.  a site i went for helping get over command-line fear was: http://www.tuxfiles.org/
[07:14] <sampan> very basic, good intro to cli commands.  and then i picked up a couple ebooks and a pocket guide to linux -- just to familiarize
[07:14] <sampan> http://www.linuxcommand.org/  another -- iirc not as good as tuxfiles though
[07:16] <sampan> i had a bookmark of a really detailed online course in linux -- but i seem to have lost it
[07:17] <iantec> i see thanks
[07:17] <iantec> ok have to go to school now see you later
[07:18] <sampan> take care :)
[07:18] <iantec> ye you too thanks
[07:30] <fatejudger> does Linux support these new superhigh resolutions on the new LCD widescreen monitors?
[07:30] <fatejudger> like 1920x1200
[07:38] <Blippe> fatejudger, as far as i know!
[07:44] <_adrian> hello
[07:44] <_adrian> iam getting a little error when compiling something
[07:44] <_adrian> Error: Cannot find header either inttypes.h or bitypes.h (see DOCS/HTML/en/faq.html).
[07:45] <_adrian> can anyone please tell me what is up?
[07:46] <_adrian> guess not..
[07:50] <Crystufer> Hey, anyone here know how to make a cd bootable?
[07:50] <robotgeek> Crystufer: what cd ?
[07:51] <Crystufer> An install cd. Just generally, though.
[07:51] <robotgeek> Crystufer: i remember googling it for someone earlier, i dunno offhand
[07:52] <Crystufer> So then you'd say google is the way to go?
[07:52] <robotgeek> Crystufer: sadly so
[07:52] <Crystufer> That's cool. I've just never had good luck with software issues on google.
[07:53] <robotgeek> Crystufer: :)
[07:53] <Crystufer> I think I found one.
[07:55] <slingblade> has anyone figured out the slow boot up problem involving PROBING IDE INTERFACE 4?
[07:56] <slingblade> hello?
[07:58] <crimsun> that's slightly less than helpfully verbose.
[07:58] <slingblade> crimsun, you talking to me?
[07:58] <Crystufer> Have you seen this? http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[07:58] <Crystufer> Crazy.
[07:59] <slingblade> has anyone figured out the slow boot up problem involving PROBING IDE INTERFACE 4?
[08:00] <Crystufer> I don't know a thing about it.
[08:00] <slingblade> k
[08:00] <crimsun> try being less vague.
[08:00] <slingblade> was hpoing someone here had
[08:00] <slingblade> during boot up, the boot process hangs for about 15-20 secs on this...looking at dmesg
[08:01] <crimsun> slingblade: try disabling it in bios
[08:01] <slingblade> splash screen comes up, hangs then kicks back out again into the text mode after probing ide4 which nothing is there
[08:01] <slingblade> I guess first thing is figuring out what ide4 is..
[08:02] <slingblade> working on a laptop
[08:02] <modifiedloser> for some reason, when in adept, it won't let me install mplayer
[08:02] <slingblade> is the only issue I am finding with Breezy
[08:03] <slingblade> I'll take a look at the BIOS....thanks crimsun
[08:03] <crimsun> modifiedloser: you need both universe and multiverse enabled, too
[08:04] <crimsun> modifiedloser: the package name is mplayer-$arch, where $arch is one of 586, k6, or custom
[08:05] <grego> o jak przyjemnie
[08:06] <grego> is there someone from Poland?
[08:06] <modifiedloser> crimsun: I have everything enabled
[08:07] <modifiedloser> it list it
[08:07] <modifiedloser> but won't let me download it
[08:07] <modifiedloser> install it I mean
[08:09] <crimsun> modifiedloser: open a Konsole and pastebin what you get with ``sudo apt-get install mplayer-586''
[08:09] <chx> how could I load a site which sends text/plain for its HTML pages? http://www.changan.com.cn/ like this, China's fourth biggest car maker
[08:12] <skbera> Hello everyone.
[08:13] <ejofee> what is happening with http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35/dists/breezy/?
[08:14] <skbera> I am unable to kill some processes when they are abnormaly terminated. for example I can't the pppd process when the connection terminated automatically, even as root. Please help me.
[08:14] <Crystufer> Google helped me find way more than I needed.
[08:14] <skbera> The STAT of the process is D when listed with ps -x.
[08:15] <Crystufer> Anybody know if it's safe to slipstream your win2k install disk?
[08:44] <Raputin> Sleeping
[09:07] <psyk> i have a question when you download something from adept
[09:07] <Hobbsee> yep?
[09:07] <psyk> how do you access it
[09:07] <Hobbsee> as in, how do you access the .deb it downloads?
[09:07] <psyk> ive been searching for it
[09:07] <psyk> well see i downloaded something called shntool
[09:08] <psyk> im really just trying to play shn files on my computer
[09:08] <Hobbsee>  /var/cache/apt/archives it should be in
[09:08] <psyk> but all it is is some text files
[09:08] <psyk> no like EXe file i mean im new to linux see i know theres not exe files
[09:08] <Hobbsee> you'd be looking for .deb files
[09:09] <Hobbsee> what are shn files?
[09:09] <psyk> its a certain type of audio
[09:09] <psyk> its like some type of .wav or something
[09:09] <Hobbsee> ah ok, yep
[09:09] <Hobbsee> and so you've installed it with adept, and want to run it?
[09:10] <psyk> well i installed the only thing that i could find close to it
[09:10] <psyk> in adept which was someting called shntool
[09:10] <psyk> multi purpose .wav manipulator
[09:11] <Hobbsee> yep
[09:11] <psyk> i went to find files and found a bunch of shit but i just dont think thats very orderly how they have it
[09:11] <Hobbsee> so now, alt+f2, shntool, hit enter
[09:11] <psyk> i tried that and nothing comes up
[09:11] <psyk> it gets a symbol.. one of the blue gears.. like its working but no files is executed
[09:12] <Tm_T> ah
[09:12] <Tm_T> man shntool then, I think
[09:12] <psyk> i duno maybe shn is something you have to do in shell
[09:13] <Tm_T> that's what I think
[09:16] <psyk> say im stull in a smalll screen in the terminal what to i hit to get out
[09:16] <psyk> like a su screen
[09:16] <psyk> sub screen
[09:16] <Hobbsee> exit?
[09:17] <psyk> that didnt worok
[09:17] <psyk> thats what i try
[09:17] <psyk> man i have  alot left to learn about unix shel
[09:18] <psyk> doesnt anyone know how i can play Shn files in kubuntu
[09:18] <kosh> what are shn files?
[09:19] <psyk> certain type of audio.. like mp3... flac........ shn...... wav
[09:19] <psyk> its more used for live music
[09:19] <kosh> hmm never even heard of that audio format before, what is it usually used for?
[09:19] <kosh> why not use flac or something like that?
[09:20] <psyk> i think shn is a little bit older
[09:20] <psyk> still good quality flac is newer
[09:20] <psyk> i duno though
[09:21] <ilba7r> do you have sox installed i know it play a variaty of sound types
[09:21] <psyk> im search google for a xmms plug in i searched adept though and didnt find anything except shn tool
[09:21] <Psi-Jack> Hey, what's a good TV tool for KDE?
[09:21] <Psi-Jack> For watching TV, basically.
[09:21] <kosh> tv? does that still exist? ;)
[09:22] <Psi-Jack> kosh: I barely remember "live" TV myself.
[09:22] <Psi-Jack> I mainly just wanted to see how good/bad my Pinnacle PCTV Rave is supported and works. And the software to use it with.
[09:24] <Psi-Jack> Anything? heh
[09:24] <kosh> no idea
[09:24] <kosh> I have not hooked up my tv to anything other then a dvd player or gamecube now in about 6 years
[09:26] <Psi-Jack> Well, I only have one TV, and it's hanging on my wall, hooked up to an SVideo gadget that takes network streams and converts it to TV. :)
[09:26] <Psi-Jack> Beyond that, I stream everything on my LAN from usually the one media-server that has 4 TV Tuners.
[09:28] <kosh> so far I just buy dvds and play them on my dvd player
[09:28] <Psi-Jack> I stream those too. The media-server has 4 DVD-ROM drives. :)
[09:33] <Psi-Jack> How about finding support for my Lexmark Z600? I don't see it listed in the drivers, specifically, but I have the supplied CUPS driver from Lexmark. It just doesn't want to run..
[09:34] <psyk> damn its a lot of work to get an shn file to work in kubuntu
[09:35] <ilba7r> Psi-Jack, did you get the driver from lexmark website. I have a similar problem but for another lexmark all in one
[09:35] <Psi-Jack> ilba7r: Yes.
[09:35] <ilba7r> psyk try to through it to alsa player to see if it work in a terminal type aplay <filename>
[09:35] <ilba7r> Psi-Jack, ok will check them again hopefully i will find mine listed
[09:36] <Psi-Jack> I got it, but I can't get it to let me run the self-extracting .sh archive.
[09:36] <ilba7r> Psi-Jack, did you check permisions on the file?
[09:37] <Psi-Jack> It's not permissions. As the Lexmark docs say, you use sh <file.sh> to use it. And it fails.
[09:38] <Psi-Jack> sh z600cups-1.0-1.gz.sh
[09:38] <Psi-Jack> Verifying archive integrity...OK
[09:38] <Psi-Jack> Uncompressing Lexmark Printer Drivertrap: usage: trap [-lp]  [arg signal_spec ...] 
[09:38] <ilba7r> Psi-Jack, mm perhaps it is trying to install in a place not your directory where you do not have write access
[09:38] <Psi-Jack> I'm doing it as root.
[09:39] <ilba7r> as is no linux driver
[09:39] <ilba7r> for my model
[09:41] <ilba7r> Psi-Jack, i assume you also checked linuxpriniting.org for your model
[09:41] <Psi-Jack> Oh, it's supported.. I mean, hell, Lexmark themselves provide the drivers! :)
[09:43] <ilba7r> i am at lexmark now os compatability lists does not have linux?
[09:43] <Psi-Jack> I just have to use THEIR driver, and get it to work. heh
[09:43] <ilba7r> would you tell me the webpage you got your driver from
[09:43] <Psi-Jack> I did a google search, actually, and got this: http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-perl/downloads.cgi?ccs=229:1:0:389:0:0&emeaframe=&fileID=1151
[09:44] <ilba7r> thanx Psi-Jack
[09:50] <Psi-Jack> Ahh, I might have got it. Apparently running their sh-tar using sh, wasn't working, but running it wish bash explicitely actually did something.
[09:51] <dell500> how is kubuntu?? :) i'm using gnome right now...
[09:52] <Psi-Jack> dell500: Well, just like KDE 3.5, actually, with ubuntu being the distribution underneath. :)
[09:52] <psyk> God now im having trouble isntall a tar.gz package
[09:53] <psyk> i type /configure that works
[09:53] <psyk> but it doesnt recognixed the make commang
[09:53] <Psi-Jack> apt-get make ?:)
[09:54] <ilba7r> psyk check the readme to see which make release it work with
[09:54] <Psi-Jack> Err, apt-get install make, sorry. heh
[09:54] <sampan> psyk have you installed the build-essential package?
[09:54] <ilba7r> if you do not have build-essential instal it too
[09:54] <ilba7r> i hate firefox too many segmentation faults :(
[09:57] <WangWeiLin> Hi I have Problems setting up my wpa_supplicant. I used the configuration advice from wikipedia.com but I cannot get it to run. Is there somebody who could help me.
[10:02] <Psi-Jack> Yeah. I got it to work, finally, but the lexinstall isn't working.
[10:02] <WangWeiLin> Hi I have Problems setting up my wpa_supplicant. I used the configuration advice from wikipedia.com but I cannot get it to run. Is there somebody who could help me.
[10:06] <ilba7r> Psi-Jack, i will never trust a text script that i can not edit good luck then
[10:10] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, is libstdc++ 6 backwards compatible to 5?
[10:14] <hawking> how can i open kde control center as root in kubuntu*
[10:14] <hawking> or network settings
[10:14] <Hobbsee> hawking: kdesu kcontrol
[10:19] <hawking> and how can i open system settings as root??
[10:19] <kosh> why would you want to?
[10:20] <kosh> any of the controls that can run as admin have that option already
[10:20] <hawking> not network settings
[10:20] <hawking> it has a bug I guess
[10:20] <kosh> just open the control you want and click adminstrator mode
[10:20] <hawking> there is no administration mode button in network settings
[10:21] <hawking> someone told me it's a bug
[10:21] <kosh> strange
[10:21] <kosh> I have one
[10:21] <kosh> and just used it
[10:21] <hawking> yeah that's fixed in the new versions of kde
[10:21] <kosh> kde 3.5 on kubuntu breezy
[10:21] <hawking> yes
[10:21] <hawking> that's fixed in kde 3.5
[10:21] <hawking> so how can i open that system settings as root?
[10:21] <kosh> kdesu kcontrol should do it
[10:22] <hawking> that open control center
[10:22] <kosh> yeah so from there click on the network one you want
[10:23] <kosh> okay how about kdesu systemsettings
[10:23] <monad> hi... trying to properly configure my i915 express graphics controller with dri snapshots and xorg 6.8.99, still failing -- does anyone know how to do this?
[10:23] <kosh> try that
[10:23] <hawking> thx that worked :)
[10:23] <wj> hi
[10:23] <wj> should i get dapper flight 2 for everyday use?
[10:36] <lippel> anyone using breezy with kde 3.5?
[10:36] <hawking> I was
[10:36] <kosh> yup
[10:37] <kosh> I am here with no problems
[10:37] <lippel> does "akregator" work for you? (start up without errors)
[10:37] <kosh> where is the next kubuntu release?
[10:37] <hawking> kde 3.5 has many bugs yet and doesnt have many improvements
[10:37] <hawking> means no need to upgrade
[10:37] <viviersf> erm
[10:38] <kosh> yup I have akregator installed and functioning
[10:38] <kosh> hmm kde 3.5 has a lot of improvements
[10:38] <viviersf> i reckon kde 3.5 is best
[10:38] <kosh> especially in khtml
[10:38] <kosh> so far I have not run into any new problems in kde 3.5 and a lot of old ones fixed
[10:39] <hawking> kosh : well I have a laptop and a there was a major bug so I had to downgrade
[10:39] <kosh> what bug?
[10:39] <hawking> I get pop-ups saying Display Change LCD On / off
[10:39] <hawking> like every 2 secs
[10:39] <kosh> I have it running on a desktop and a laptop
[10:39] <kosh> no problems on either
[10:39] <hawking> even if I don't press anything or don't touch the mouse
[10:40] <hawking> well that depends on the laptop
[10:40] <hawking> what's urs?
[10:40] <kosh> it iis an older micron laptop
[10:40] <hawking> mine is an asus a3500e
[10:40] <hawking> and acpi4asus doesn't support it
[10:40] <hawking> :/
[10:40] <kosh> I am also running the latest x.org
[10:41] <kosh> my laptop predates acpi and my desktop uses acpi with no issues at all
[10:41] <kosh> however the acpi on my motherboard actually works correctly
[10:41] <hawking> I am compiling kernel 2.6.15 now :)
[10:42] <kosh> I check out motherboards and other stuff before I buy them to make sure the parts work
[10:43] <kosh> since I have run into parts a few years ago which had broken acpi controllers
[10:43] <hawking> I see
[10:43] <hawking> does your laptop have infrared?
[10:43] <kosh> and a LOT of devices currently sold have crappy apci controllers
[10:43] <hawking> I wonder how to set it working under linux
[10:43] <kosh> yeah it does but I have never used ir on it
[10:43] <kosh> heck even my desktop supports ir but never used that either
[10:43] <kosh> not even sure what I would use it for
[10:44] <hawking> me too I just want to know how
[10:47] <snaggle> Anyone of you have vlc installed under Kubuntu?
[10:50] <_hara> hi
[10:50] <_hara> is it a known problem with kopete when chatting with someone on msn messenger, that kopete won't me allow to send links which end with .php
[10:51] <Tm_T> it's MSN restricting it
[10:52] <_hara> howcome the other end which has msn messenger can send links to me?
[10:52] <Tm_T> should not
[10:52] <Tm_T> download.php atleast is in restriction list
[10:52] <_hara> contactstaff.php is disallowed too
[10:52] <Tm_T> just try mention download.php ;)
[10:53] <_hara> (11:53:02) # The following message has not been sent correctly (Connection closed):
[10:53] <_hara> download.php
[10:53] <Tm_T> yes
[10:53] <_hara> fckers!
[10:53] <Tm_T> that's msn restricting it
[10:53] <Tm_T> MS sucks, we know
[10:53] <Tm_T> hawking: that's why you should use jabber, and tell your friends too to use jabber
[10:53] <Tm_T> _hara: even
[10:54] <Tm_T> hawking: pardon, wrong tabcompletion
[10:56] <_hara> wtf, sending links with gaim works
[10:57] <Tm_T> interesting
[10:57] <_hara> so the problem is kopete??
[10:57] <Tm_T> nope
[10:58] <_hara> hmm, okay, gaim sent only a piece of the link
[10:58] <Tm_T> aye
[10:58] <_hara> dropped /blablabla.php
[10:58] <kieran> hi
[10:58] <kieran> is there anyone here that can help me?
[10:58] <kieran> please
[10:58] <Tm_T> kieran: no, if you don't tell what's your problem
[10:58] <kieran> haha
[10:59] <Tm_T> don't ask to ask, just ask
[10:59] <kieran> i just wanted to make sure ppl were in here
[10:59] <robotgeek> Tm_T: too fast for me
[10:59] <kieran> i  tried the ubuntu irc
[10:59] <kieran> no one answered
[10:59] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm.
[10:59] <kieran> ok
[10:59] <kieran> im asking now
[10:59] <Psi-Jack> Kaffiene doesn't seem to be playing DVD's.. :/
[10:59] <kieran> trying to do sudo apt-get update
[10:59] <Tm_T> Psi-Jack: dvdcss
[10:59] <kieran> am getting this error
[10:59] <kieran> timeout connection
[10:59] <Psi-Jack> Tm_T: Hmm?
[11:00] <Tm_T> Psi-Jack: you need dvdcss package, I think
[11:00] <Tm_T> !dvd
[11:00] <kieran> 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)] 
[11:00] <ilba7r> libdvdcss2 to be precise
[11:00] <kieran> and then timesout
[11:00] <Tm_T> interesting ip
[11:00] <kieran> yeah
[11:01] <Psi-Jack> Alright. Once this full upgrade is finished, I'll look for dvdcss :)
[11:01] <kieran> can we go into private chat Tim?
[11:01] <kieran> Tm sorry
[11:01] <Tm_T> tim?
[11:01] <Tm_T> ;)
[11:01] <ilba7r> Psi-Jack, i think it is in the backports
[11:01] <Tm_T> no need to
[11:01] <kieran> ok
[11:01] <kieran> didnt want to interupt others
[11:01] <bimberi> kieran: what does "ping archive.ubuntu.com" resolve to?
[11:01] <Psi-Jack> The backports? hmm.. Mind you, I don't know a whole lot of how Unbuntu/Kubuntu is setup.
[11:02] <Tm_T> archive.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.151)
[11:02] <kieran> 64 bytes from archive.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.151): icmp_seq=5 ttl=50 time=336 ms
[11:02] <Blippe> !backports
[11:02] <ubotu> methinks backports is Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[11:02] <Tm_T> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-cd84b8e23927ccdb4bb55ffd3074687abec0cf3b
[11:02] <ilba7r> !repos
[11:02] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:02] <kieran> whoa
[11:02] <kieran> slow down
[11:02] <kieran> :S
[11:03] <hawking> !easysource
[11:03] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:03] <Tm_T> kieran: mhehe
[11:03] <Tm_T> kieran: try again
[11:03] <Blippe> the source-o-matic is good!
[11:03] <kieran> ok
[11:04] <kieran> so what i gather
[11:04] <burepe2> Any time I open a torrent file with ktorrent I get a corupted file error even though the files are fine. Any one know anything about this? Also I would like to use ktorrent or qtorrent, but I can't figure out how to change ports in qtorrent. Anyone got info on that?
[11:04] <Tm_T> kieran: just try sudo apt-get update
[11:04] <kieran> sudo kwrite /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:04] <kieran> then add the new source .list?
[11:04] <Psi-Jack> Okay, got any suggestions for TV tuner software? :)
[11:04] <Tm_T> kieran: nooo
[11:04] <Blippe> i'm amazed someone gets ktorrent working... mine always hangs!
[11:04] <kieran> working now
[11:04] <kieran> :D
[11:04] <burepe2> search adept for tv
[11:04] <Tm_T> 12:04 < Tm_T> kieran: just try sudo apt-get update
[11:04] <burepe2> there are like 4
[11:05] <kieran> :D
[11:05] <kieran> :D
[11:05] <kieran> :D
[11:05] <Psi-Jack> burepe: I did, earlier. I'm doing an update, though, to see what's new with the new sources.
[11:05] <Tm_T> and you don't need to flood
[11:05] <kieran> what happened
[11:05] <kieran> sorry
[11:05] <kieran> linux noob
[11:05] <kieran> just came from mandriva
[11:05] <kieran> been told debian based stuff is better
[11:05] <Tm_T> np
[11:05] <Tm_T> and that's true ;)
[11:05] <kieran> and was getting used to the apt-get
[11:06] <bimberi> kieran: maybe the ping test made the address resolve properly (guessing)
[11:06] <Blippe> if you really want the latest stuff, you might start thinking to add kubuntu.org/packages too!
[11:06] <Tm_T> kieran: just do what I told, and tell if it works now
[11:06] <kieran> i am finding it that way
[11:06] <kieran> yeah it's working
[11:06] <burepe2> kubuntu is way easier to use than madrake and now even more sexier
[11:06] <Tm_T> kieran: aye, dns problem, so blame your ISP
[11:06] <kieran> can i apt-get KDE3.5?
[11:06] <Psi-Jack> Hmm.
[11:06] <kieran> really
[11:06] <Psi-Jack> Adept is not showing anything for dvdcss.
[11:07] <Blippe> talking about sexy, whatever happened to ubuntu-porn (or the monthly packages with backgrounds and the like)?
[11:07] <kieran> where are you guys?
[11:07] <kieran> im in melbourne, australia
[11:07] <ilba7r> Psi-Jack, libdvdcss2
[11:07] <burepe2> !sources
[11:07] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:07] <Tm_T> kieran: Finland, homecountry of linux ;)
[11:07] <burepe2> Psi-Jack: go to the second link. make a sources file. and then search
[11:07] <bimberi> kieran: i'm in canberra :)
[11:07] <Psi-Jack> I've already enabled all sources.
[11:08] <burepe2> what are you looking for? dvd codecs?
[11:08] <kieran> cool
[11:08] <Psi-Jack> I want to play my DVDs. :p
[11:08] <kieran> hehe
[11:08] <Blippe> Sweden, we owned finland... until we thought faking an attack towards russia, without an army was a real good idea!
[11:08] <kieran> go watch them on your tv
[11:08] <burepe2> search plain dvd
[11:08] <Psi-Jack> kieran: What TV? :p
[11:08] <bimberi> Tm_T: 36oC here today - how about you? :)
[11:08] <burepe2> and you will find the right one
[11:08] <burepe2> !DVD
[11:08] <burepe2> nope
[11:09] <kieran> anyone help me with apt-get KDE3.5?
[11:09] <Tm_T> bimberi: -2 C so warm day, too warm
[11:09] <bimberi> !kde3.5
[11:09] <ubotu> rumour has it, kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[11:09] <bimberi> Tm_T: toasty! :P
[11:09] <Blippe> !amarok-latest
[11:10] <ubotu> Blippe: Bugger all, i dunno
[11:10] <Tm_T> bimberi: yeah
[11:10] <Tm_T> bimberi: it's january, so it should be -15...-30 atleast
[11:10] <kieran> thats the bit i didnt understand
[11:10] <kieran> how do i implement that into the console
[11:10] <kieran> the deb command
[11:11] <kieran> kieran@linux:/$ sudo deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[11:11] <kieran> sudo: deb: command not found
[11:11] <bimberi> kieran: you add that line to your sources.list
[11:11] <kieran> im guessing thats very wrong
[11:11] <kieran> ahh
[11:12] <kieran> so that sudo kwrite /etc/....... is where i add it
[11:12] <Tm_T> 'sudo echo "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list' might work
[11:12] <Tm_T> no guarantee
[11:12] <kieran> copy that without the "
[11:12] <kieran> ?
[11:13] <Psi-Jack> Well, oKle .... ALMOST works..
[11:13] <Tm_T> kieran: run that without leading and trailing '
[11:13] <kieran> yeah
[11:13] <Blippe> Tm_T looks right...
[11:13] <kieran> sweet
[11:13] <kieran> it''s hanging on
[11:13] <kieran> >
[11:14] <Tm_T> err
[11:14] <kieran> kieran@linux:/$ sudo echo "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[11:14] <kieran> >
[11:14] <Tm_T> no
[11:14] <Tm_T> you didn't take whole line
[11:14] <kieran> damn
[11:14] <Tm_T> ctrl-c to cancel
[11:15] <kieran> permission denied
[11:15] <kieran> kieran@linux:/$ sudo echo "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:15] <kieran> bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[11:15] <Tm_T> uff
[11:15] <kieran> yeah ns
[11:15] <kieran> :'(
[11:16] <Tm_T> sudo su -c 'sudo echo "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list'
[11:16] <Tm_T> take that all
[11:16] <kosh> why not just sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:16] <Tm_T> kosh: because learning to use bash is fun
[11:16] <bimberi> but vim is even more fun :P
[11:16] <Tm_T> nnno
[11:17] <kosh> or just run adept
[11:17] <Tm_T> kosh: too easy
[11:17] <kosh> and then go to manager repositories
[11:17] <apokryphos> bash is a lot quicker for many things 8)
[11:17] <Tm_T> true
[11:17] <kosh> well vim for this would have been very fast and straightforward
[11:17] <Tm_T> kosh: yes, but not as fun
[11:17] <robotgeek> hey apokryphos
[11:18] <Tm_T> apokryphos <3
[11:18] <apokryphos> http://wooledge.org/mywiki/BashFaq has some good examples, for example
[11:18] <kieran> kieran@linux:/$ sudo su -c 'sudo echo "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list'
[11:18] <kieran> kieran@linux:/$
[11:18] <apokryphos> hi robotgeek, Tm_T :)
[11:18] <Tm_T> kieran: done, now sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:18] <apokryphos> kieran: indeed; silence is golden 8)
[11:18] <kosh> I am not very fond of "clever" solutions
[11:18] <kosh> I see too many of them in my work and end up ripping them out
[11:18] <Tm_T> haha
[11:19] <Tm_T> true in some cases
[11:19] <apokryphos> clever can mean more efficient :P
[11:19] <Tm_T> aye
[11:19] <kosh> very very rarely
[11:19] <apokryphos> no, an awful lot of the time
[11:19] <Tm_T> kosh: actually most of time
[11:19] <kieran> it's going to hang again on the apt-get update
[11:19] <apokryphos> instead of manually doing x operation y times, get bash to do it all. No chance of error if it's done properly 8)
[11:19] <Tm_T> kieran: nice DNS you got
[11:19] <kosh> clean solutions end up being more efficient long term
[11:19] <apokryphos> minimise the possibility of human error ;-)
[11:19] <Psi-Jack> I'm still not seeing libdvdcss
[11:20] <kieran> blame australians
[11:20] <apokryphos> there's no reason why a clever solution can't be a clean one 8)
[11:20] <Tm_T> kosh: actually scripts etc are cleanest solutions
[11:20] <kosh> apokryphos: the most likely way to eliminate human error would have been to have adept do it for you
[11:20] <kieran> apok your taking up my help space
[11:20] <Tm_T> in most of cases
[11:20] <kieran> thanks anyways
[11:20] <ilba7r> Psi-Jack, did you sudo apt-get update ?
[11:20] <kieran> but Tm is helping me good
[11:20] <apokryphos> hehe
[11:20] <Psi-Jack> ilba7r: Yes
[11:20] <ilba7r> Psi-Jack, it is in seveas repos too
[11:20] <kosh> I end up doing work with people that write "clever" database code and webapp stuff
[11:20] <Tm_T> kieran: do that ping thing again
[11:21] <Tm_T> kosh: yes, there's difference between "clever" and clever
[11:21] <bimberi> kieran: now now, you can't expect to have the channel to yourself :)
[11:21] <Psi-Jack> ilba7r: Eh?
[11:21] <kieran> hehe
[11:21] <kieran> thats why i asked to go to a private one
[11:21] <ilba7r> !easyrepos
[11:21] <kieran> ;)
[11:21] <ubotu> ilba7r: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:21] <kosh> http://www.thedailywtf.com/   look there for "clever" solutions
[11:21] <kieran> ok
[11:21] <ilba7r> !repos
[11:21] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:21] <kieran> what would you like me to ping?
[11:22] <ilba7r> !easysource
[11:22] <Tm_T> kieran: aye, just do that ping, will ya, and then again that update&upgrade thing
[11:22] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:22] <Psi-Jack> Holy crap, kdetv actually uses my TV Tuner than Windows' native drivers!
[11:22] <ilba7r> Psi-Jack, follow ubotu link
[11:22] <Psi-Jack> Better than.
[11:22] <Tm_T> kieran: and give it a time, you won't learn all of things in one day ;)
[11:22] <Psi-Jack> ilba7r: I'm on it. :)
[11:22] <kieran> i know i know
[11:22] <ilba7r> look at seveas repos
[11:22] <Tm_T> ok, I'm off now, good luck for you all ;--P -->>
[11:22] <kieran> im hard on myself
[11:22] <kieran> cheers mate
[11:22] <kieran> thanks heaps
[11:23] <kosh> I been been doing devel on linux for about 10 or so years now I think
[11:23] <bimberi> kieran: it's better to stay in the channel (and use nick hilighting) - it means 1. others can learn; and 2. what you're told can be scrutinised
[11:23] <apokryphos> bye Tm_T =)
[11:23] <bimberi> cya Tm_T
[11:23] <bimberi> ... enjoy the warmth :)
[11:24] <kieran> ok
[11:24] <kieran> can anyone help me with what io should ping to resolve that address??
[11:25] <bimberi> kieran: ping archive.ubuntu.com
[11:25] <kieran> i ping the archive
[11:25] <kieran> sweet
[11:25] <kieran> then sudo apt-get?
[11:25] <kieran> then sudo apt-get update?
[11:25] <bimberi> kieran: yep
[11:26] <kieran> i couldnt source some of the files
[11:26] <Psi-Jack> That's a very nice list of sources to use. :D
[11:27] <kieran> keeps failing
[11:27] <bimberi> :/
[11:27] <kieran> i would post what it says
[11:27] <kieran> but it's long
[11:27] <bimberi> !pastebin
[11:27] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:28] <Psi-Jack> Dang. kdetv just plain rocks. :)
[11:28] <bimberi> kieran: use that site and post the url back here
[11:28] <kieran> i have copied it
[11:28] <kieran> now do i Pastebin
[11:28] <robotgeek> !easysource
[11:28] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:29] <bimberi> kieran: use a web browser to go to that site
[11:29] <kieran> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6948
[11:30] <bimberi> kieran: put your /etc/apt/sources.list on the pastebin too
[11:33] <kieran> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6949
[11:33] <thegladiator> my mem is 256 , i was using Karamba for a while and that caue my video to slow down
[11:34] <thegladiator> is karama such a big mem hog
[11:34] <thegladiator> karamba*
[11:35] <bimberi> kieran: line 24 is the problem.  the new deb line should have been added as a new line (instead of at the end of the last line)
[11:37] <kieran> ok
[11:37] <kieran> so what should i add in there?
[11:38] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm. one or more of the sources supplied by easysource, isn't downloading.
[11:38] <bimberi> where it says "multiversedeb" on the last line you need to split the line so that it ends with "multiverse" and the next line starts with "deb"
[11:39] <bimberi> kieran: i had trouble expressing it :P
[11:39] <kieran>  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiversedeb
[11:39] <kieran>  deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[11:39] <kieran> ahh
[11:39] <kieran> i see it
[11:42] <kieran> now it wont ping at all
[11:42] <kieran> :s
[11:43] <Hobbsee> kieran: that top line, the deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiversedeb needs to be deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[11:46] <kieran> which top line?
[11:46] <kieran> im :s
[11:47] <Psi-Jack> Argh.
[11:47] <Psi-Jack> It's Seveas' packages that aren't responding. :/
[11:47] <kieran> i changed that
[11:49] <kieran> :(
[11:49] <robotgeek> Psi-Jack: his repo is down when he is sleeping
[11:49] <Psi-Jack> Yep.
[11:49] <Psi-Jack> Oh god.
[11:51] <Psi-Jack> THERE it is. Without seveas'. Finally found libdvdcss.
[11:51] <thegladiator> karama users here ? anyone ?
[11:51] <ilba7r> kieran, i took a look on your posting modified it as much as i could look at it here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6950
[11:51] <kieran> hows that look?
[11:52] <Psi-Jack> But, Kaffeine still doesn't play DVD's. :p
[11:52] <ilba7r> Psi-Jack, try this website for sevas  http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas
[11:53] <ilba7r> psi go to it and just download it manually or add it to your repos whatever you prefer
[11:53] <Psi-Jack> I got libdvdcss2 now.. One of the many package sources I added had it.
[11:53] <Hobbsee> kieran: use the list at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6950 as your /etc/apt/sources.list - ilba7r fixed it for you
[11:53] <kieran> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6952
[11:53] <Psi-Jack> But Kaffeine still doesn't want to use it. I got oKle working now, though where-as it wasn't before.
[11:54] <kieran> yeah just trid that
[11:54] <ilba7r> Psi-Jack, reinstall kaffiene so it can see the new lib
[11:54] <ilba7r> or dpkg -recpmfogire kaffiene
[11:54] <zitoune> hello , somebody arrives to install sharpconstruct ?
[11:55] <Psi-Jack> -recpmfogire ?
[11:56] <ilba7r> sorry Psi-Jack dpkg -reconfigure
[11:57] <ilba7r> Psi-Jack, what kaffiene package you have?
[11:58] <Psi-Jack> Ummm.
[11:58] <Psi-Jack> The one that came with the installation.
[11:59] <ilba7r> kaffeine-xine or kaffeine-gstreamer
[11:59] <Psi-Jack> gstreamer
[11:59] <ilba7r> kieran you can use the tab key for automatic recompletion
[12:00] <ilba7r> Psi-Jack, ok do not know how well it will work. just try first reconfiguring it if it does not work try kaffeine-xine than read ubotu link on restricted formats
[12:00] <ilba7r> !restrictedformats
[12:00] <ubotu> I heard restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:01] <kieran> hey ilba can you help me out?
[12:01] <ilba7r> shoot kieran
[12:01] <kieran> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6950
[12:01] <kieran> han gon
[12:01] <kieran> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6952
[12:01] <kieran> i tried your script
[12:01] <kieran> and got this back
[12:01] <kieran> :-(
[12:02] <ilba7r> kieran tyr as it said sudo apt-get update in a terminal
[12:03] <ilba7r> and let me check if the address of kde35 is correct
[12:04] <kieran> ok
[12:04] <kieran> just trying to get it to ping
[12:06] <kieran> cant ping now
[12:06] <kieran> :(
[12:06] <Psi-Jack> Yeaaah. xine engine is working MUCH better. :)
[12:07] <kieran> ping archive.ubuntu.com
[12:07] <kieran> is down
[12:07] <ilba7r> oh you mean yu have network prob
[12:07] <ilba7r> Psi-Jack, i know enjoy it then :)
[12:07] <ilba7r> kieran, are you on a wireless net
[12:07] <kieran> nah network is fine
[12:07] <kieran> i pinged google fine
[12:08] <Psi-Jack> Mmmm Oh I will.. It even specifically supports 4.1 audio, which is what I'm currently setup for, analog-wise.
[12:08] <ilba7r> archive might be down tehn
[12:08] <kieran> :(
[12:08] <kieran> what do i do now?
[12:08] <kieran> is there somewhere else i can get it from?
[12:08] <ilba7r> kieran first if you have synaptic opened close it
[12:08] <ilba7r> kieran than clean the cashe use this command
[12:08] <ilba7r> sudo aptitude clean
[12:09] <kieran> synaptic is closed
[12:09] <kieran> done
[12:09] <ilba7r> sudo apt-get update
[12:09] <Psi-Jack> Holy...
[12:10] <Psi-Jack> This is sweet. Xine actually sounds like it does better surround sound seperation than... Than.. Well.. Than Windows-based DVD players..
[12:10] <kieran> nah
[12:10] <kieran> still didnt work
[12:10] <kieran> :(
[12:10] <kieran> can you ping then archive?
[12:11] <kieran> *the
[12:11] <ilba7r> yao
[12:11] <ilba7r> yap
[12:11] <kieran> :(
[12:11] <Psi-Jack> This is a kick butt CG anime. Appleseed. :)
[12:11] <kieran> damn
[12:11] <kieran> should i reboot
[12:11] <kieran> ?
[12:12] <ilba7r> kieran, might be that kubuntu is down
[12:13] <ilba7r> might not be your pc at all for i tried ot ping kubuntu and failed
[12:13] <kieran> cool
[12:13] <kieran> ok
[12:13] <kieran> is there anywhere else i can get it from?
[12:14] <ilba7r> your kubuntu line is exactly what the website say it should be http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[12:15] <ilba7r> kieran i would just recommend that you wait. Only use official repos
[12:15] <kieran> ok
[12:15] <ilba7r> and from now on try to use a graphical front end to apt. Synaptic is quite good
[12:15] <ilba7r> do not know of adept though
[12:15] <Psi-Jack> Dang. I might actually like linux again, after seeing what state it's in these days. :)
[12:15] <kieran> ok
[12:15] <kieran> it's up
[12:16] <kieran> just tried apt-get
[12:16] <kieran> failed again
[12:16] <ilba7r> kieran i suspect it might have to do with your network
[12:16] <ilba7r> kieran do you have both wireless and eth
[12:16] <kieran> yeah
[12:17] <ilba7r> which one you are using now
[12:17] <kieran> this comp stays on ethernet
[12:18] <ilba7r> ok type cat /etc/network/interfaces in a terminal and paste the result in a pastebin for me
[12:19] <kieran> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6953
[12:19] <kieran> i tried to set my DNS settings up before so that firefox would work
[12:19] <kieran> but it didnt save the settings i made to resolv.conf
[12:19] <kieran> could that be why?
[12:20] <ilba7r> no it is fine no problems there at all
[12:20] <thegladiator> does anyone use karmba ?
[12:20] <thegladiator> felt its a mem hog ?
[12:20] <ilba7r> oh what changes you made to resolv.conf
[12:20] <thegladiator> my video doesnt work well after using karamba
[12:20] <kieran> the didnt changed
[12:20] <kieran> stayed the same
[12:20] <kieran> kieran@linux:/$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
[12:20] <kieran> nameserver 10.1.1.1
[12:21] <ilba7r> thegladiator, try running top in a terminal before and after using karamba to see who much mem it actually use
[12:21] <kieran> i wanted to add my own DNS servers in there
[12:21] <kieran> makes it run better
[12:21] <ilba7r> ok
[12:21] <kieran> but it didnt save it
[12:21] <kieran> how do you finish off a vim edit
[12:21] <thegladiator> yep
[12:21] <kieran> is it -wq!
[12:22] <bimberi> :wq
[12:22] <ilba7r> kieran, i think ex
[12:22] <thegladiator> kieran, press escape first to quite from the inserting mode
 (if you're in input mode)
[12:23] <ilba7r> kieran, why not use simpler editors like nano or kwrite/
[12:23] <thegladiator> after escape :wq should save it
[12:25] <kieran> ok
[12:25] <kieran> wikked
[12:25] <kieran> went a little futher with those DNS settings in there
[12:26] <kieran> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6954
[12:26] <kieran> have a look at that
[12:26] <kieran> public key thing
[12:26] <kieran> i think that was on the site right?
[12:26] <ilba7r> ya i sent you a link and you can just add the key with the command on the site
[12:26] <Hobbsee> yeah, it is
[12:27] <ilba7r> it is working fine now with you
[12:27] <Hobbsee> but you can ignore the warning, it's not an error, as long as you trust the site
[12:27] <ilba7r> w: is a warning not an error kieran
[12:27] <ilba7r> now back to my movie
[12:27] <ilba7r> take care all
[12:28] <kieran> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6955
[12:28] <kieran> i think it worked
[12:28] <kieran> all this to download KDE 3.5
[12:28] <kieran> :S
[12:29] <Chousuke> Hm. scrolling doesn't work on that page :/
[12:29] <Chousuke> Not for me at leasyt.
[12:31] <kieran> hobbsee
[12:31] <kieran> you there mate?
[12:31] <Hobbsee> kieran: yeah
[12:32] <thegladiator> prolly not
[12:32] <Hobbsee> kieran: yep, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:34] <kieran> your a legend hobbsee
[12:34] <kieran> thanks heaps
[12:34] <Hobbsee> no problems
[12:34] <kieran> working now
[12:35] <Hobbsee> good
[12:35] <kieran> i just checked my sources.list file
[12:35] <kieran> and that is empty
[12:35] <kieran> should i leave it empty as everything is working?
[12:37] <robotgeek> kieran: get a working sources.list
[12:37] <robotgeek> !easysource
[12:37] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:37] <Hobbsee> what do you mean, empty?
[12:37] <robotgeek> oh hi Hobbsee , legend :)
[12:37] <Hobbsee> hey robotgeek :)
[12:42] <kieran> you know
[12:42] <kieran> etc/sources.list
[12:42] <kieran> it was empty
[12:46] <Hobbsee> kieran: you want /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:46] <Hobbsee> but leave it after what you pastebinned before
[12:47] <hawking> Hobbsee : hi there
[12:47] <Hobbsee> hi hawking
[12:47] <hawking> Hobbsee : I have a sweet kubuntu system without kde 3.5 now :)
[12:47] <Hobbsee> :)
[12:48] <kieran> sorry yeah
[12:48] <kieran> that is empty
[12:48] <hawking> I'll upgrade to kde 3.5 in a month or so
[12:49] <Hobbsee> ah yep
[12:49] <Hobbsee> seems like people had bugs when not going through the betas/rc's, but the ones who went through them, had very few problems
[12:49] <Hobbsee> shouldnt be the case though
[12:49] <kieran> updating now
[12:50] <kieran> :D
[12:51] <ilba7r> kieran if you do dis-upgrade the apt source will be rewritten any one like a nice nova program check this out http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/program.html
[12:52] <Hobbsee> ilba7r: say what, in english?
[12:53] <ilba7r> nova is a science program the one i am watching now is on elegancy of univ and parallel univ oftopic i know but nice
[12:53] <robotgeek> pbs, very nice
[12:53] <Hobbsee> ilba7r: no, this: if you do dis-upgrade the apt source will be rewritte
[12:56] <ilba7r> Hobbsee from what i remeber i think that is right might be wrong though have to re look it up. Its 7 am here and did not sleep yet Hobbsee
[12:57] <Hobbsee> ilba7r: if you do a dist-upgrade, all the packages will upgrade, and will install any new packages that are needed.  Nothing changes the /etc/apt/sources.list except the user
[12:59] <ilba7r> Hobbsee, i guess you are sure of that. On the other hand i am not. perhaps i am mistaken did not mean to give bad advise though
[01:00] <Hobbsee> no problems
[01:00] <Hobbsee> and yes, i'm sure of that :)
[01:00] <ilba7r> nice to speak in publick to be corrected all the time :)
[01:00] <kieran> hehe
[01:00] <kieran> ok
[01:01] <kieran> so should i get that source list off the kubuntu website again?
[01:02] <kieran> and when KDE has downloaded it will install auto right?
[01:02] <robotgeek> ilba7r: we all learn
[01:03] <Hobbsee> ilba7r: you usually get corrected?  i wouldnt have corrected you, but incorrect information tends to screw up linux boxes, which then causes more headaches, for people like yourself to go and fix
[01:03] <ilba7r> robotgeek, never claimed to be more than a user :)
[01:03] <Hobbsee> ilba7r: you dont have to be anything but a user - but correct info is usually useful, wouldnt you say?
[01:03] <ilba7r> Hobbsee, i am gratefull for you to correct me. Only way to learn
[01:04] <ilba7r> Hobbsee, sometimes lapse of memory sometimes incorrect information but am always willing to learn :) and be corrected :)
[01:05] <Hobbsee> ah yes, that's when i usually disconnect for a while lol - or just stop responding
[01:05] <Hobbsee> the lapses of memory part
[01:05] <robotgeek> ilba7r: hey, i'm just a user too :)
[01:06] <ilba7r> robotgeek, as Hobbsee said we do not need to be more than users. each one has is job hopefully which he shine in :)
[01:07] <Hobbsee> or she ;)
[01:07] <ilba7r> or she
[01:07] <ilba7r> :)
[01:08] <ilba7r> Hobbsee, you reminded me i had to change a whole patterns in a proposal for that. Not to offend anybody. i used the reference person instead of he
[01:09] <Hobbsee> ilba7r: of course, i recognise that - i'm not that picky lol
[01:09] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: go away, you don't exist!
[01:09] <Hobbsee> robotgeek: hehe!
[01:10] <ilba7r> lol
[01:11] <ilba7r> ok get to get some sleep nice meeting you Hobbsee and robotgeek
[01:11] <ilba7r> take care all
[01:11] <Hobbsee> night
[01:13] <kieran> hobbsee you there mate?
[01:13] <Hobbsee> kieran: yes
[01:14] <kieran> will this auto install once downloaded?
[01:14] <thegladiator> i started using kde coz it was less on memory . now I started liking its interface
[01:15] <Hobbsee> kieran: yes
[01:15] <kieran> sweet
[01:15] <kieran> you reckon you could help me with firefox in the mean time while this downloads?
[01:16] <kieran> get it installed
[01:16] <thegladiator> whats the problem with FF?
[01:16] <kieran> cant figuire out how to get it working
[01:16] <kieran> i unpacked it
[01:16] <kieran> tried to run it
[01:16] <thegladiator> what happens when you click on firefox ?
[01:16] <kieran> and wouldnt open
[01:16] <thegladiator> are you compiling form the source ?
[01:17] <thegladiator> firefox comes with almost all the latest ubuntu versions
[01:17] <thegladiator> be specific kieran
[01:17] <kieran> i got kubuntu
[01:17] <kieran> didnt come with it
[01:17] <thegladiator> so that you get solutions in a jiffy
[01:17] <thegladiator> firefox doesnt come with kubuntu ?
[01:17] <kieran> ok
[01:17] <kieran> ill try find the instructions i followed
[01:17] <thegladiator> k
[01:18] <Hobbsee> sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[01:18] <thegladiator> i acnt help you if you are trying FF 1.5
[01:18] <Hobbsee> !firefox1.5
[01:18] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:18] <thegladiator> Hobbsee, it doesnt come with kubuntu dektop ? firefox ?
[01:18] <Hobbsee> thegladiator: indeed it does not.  it's one of the first things I install
[01:18] <thegladiator> ah.
[01:19] <thegladiator> kieran, just do a apt-get and installs straightaway
[01:19] <thegladiator> lemme just check my gnome on this new mem
[01:19] <thegladiator> brb
[01:20] <kieran> do apt-get
[01:20] <kieran> hehe
[01:20] <kieran> man
[01:20] <kieran> been trying to get that working all night
[01:20] <kieran> hehe
[01:21] <kieran> I downloaded Mozilla Firefox 1.0.6 from mozilla.org. I extracted it using
[01:21] <kieran> 
[01:21] <kieran>  tar -xf filename.tar
[01:21] <kieran> 
[01:21] <kieran>  I then went into the firefox-installer directory and typed:
[01:21] <kieran> 
[01:21] <kieran>  ./firefox-install and I got this error:
[01:21] <kieran>  /firefox-installer-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:21] <kieran> replace firefox 1.0.6 with 1.5
[01:21] <Hobbsee> !+enter
[01:21] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[01:22] <kieran> sorry bot
[01:22] <Hobbsee> did you read the notes up the top of that wiki page kieran?
[01:22] <Hobbsee> in fact, did you follow the wiki page, just like it says?  All of it?
[01:23] <kieran> i've never read wiki
[01:23] <Rocco83> hi all
[01:23] <kieran> i used the forum im signed up too
[01:23] <Hobbsee> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:23] <kieran> www.libuxquestions.org
[01:24] <kieran> eyyy
[01:24] <kieran> there it is
[01:24] <Rocco83> how can i say to kubuntu to not mount automatically my external usb disk?
[01:24] <kieran> so wiki is the place to be
[01:25] <kieran> nice
[01:25] <kieran> thanks hobbs
[01:25] <Hobbsee> kieran: lots of kubunt/ubuntu stuff on the wiki, to be followed
[01:26] <thegladiator> i'd like to mvoe the k button etc fren the left extreme of the panel . panel length is 100% ...but it wud be better if K button etc . starts a tad after
[01:26] <thegladiator> is this possible?
[01:26] <thegladiator> how can I get the K button a diff look like say "start" in windows ?
[01:28] <Hobbsee> have a look at kbfx, or replace kmenu.png
[01:28] <Hobbsee> with whatever you like
[01:28] <kieran> i should be able to just delete what i have already extracted without doing much harm?
[01:28] <Hobbsee> kieran: yes
[01:28] <kieran> cool
[01:28] <kieran> you in aus hobbsee?
[01:28] <Hobbsee> kieran: yes, and i'm going to sleep really, really soon
[01:29] <kieran> haha
[01:29] <kieran> yeah all good
[01:29] <kieran> you been awesome
[01:29] <kieran> very helpful
[01:30] <kieran> whats the del command in the console
[01:30] <kieran> ?
[01:30] <kieran> hehe
[01:30] <Hobbsee> rm
[01:30] <kieran> sudo rm /firefox/
[01:32] <kieran> i thught you had to be in another window manager to update KDE
[01:32] <kieran> im guessing it knows what to do
[01:32] <thegladiator> how can I change the buttons of my k panel ?
 have a look at kbfx, or replace kmenu.png
[01:33] <thegladiator> kieran, that was for me ?
[01:33] <kieran> yeah
[01:33] <thegladiator> ah
[01:33] <Hobbsee> kieran: be very careful with it, the rm command - make sure you dotn accidently delete what you didnt want
[01:33] <kieran> ok
[01:34] <thegladiator> kieran, i am trying out kbfx , how is the installation for a theme ?
[01:34] <kieran> i tried to delete tht folder b4 in konquerer
[01:34] <thegladiator> in kcontrol ?
[01:34] <kieran> and wouldnt give me permission
[01:34] <kieran> no idea mate
[01:34] <kieran> im new to all this
[01:34] <thegladiator> ah np
[01:34] <kieran> just saw you ask before and hobbsee answered you
[01:35] <Hobbsee> true, but i forgot to say thegladiator's nick
[01:35] <thegladiator> ah :)
[01:35] <thegladiator> Hobbsee, how can I install a downloaded kbfx zip file?
[01:36] <thegladiator> after extracting it ? whats the procedure ?
[01:36] <thegladiator> !kbfx
[01:36] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, thegladiator
[01:36] <slow-motion> hallo
[01:38] <theine> Hi, how do I set the language environment under KDE in Kubuntu? If I issue the local command in a terminal, I get: http://pastebin.com/500680
[01:40] <theine> That's "... the locale command ..." of course
[01:41] <raffaele> hi
[01:42] <robotgeek> hi raffaele
[01:42] <raffaele> I'm kubuntu 64bit and I will change kdm theme
[01:43] <raffaele> how can I do?
[01:45] <robotgeek> raffaele, i think you can change from kcontrol
[01:46] <raffaele> robotgeek: no, i can't
[01:46] <robotgeek> raffaele, why not?
[01:46] <raffaele> i have not kdmtheme
[01:48] <robotgeek> raffaele, there should be a bunch of themes installed by default
[01:48] <raffaele> yes
[01:50] <robotgeek> raffaele, type "kcontrol" in a konsole, and change it from there. if you can't, describe more :)
[01:51] <robotgeek> raffaele, refer here for manual procedure. http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=29331
[01:51] <robotgeek> raffaele, sorry but i gotta sleep.
[01:52] <raffaele> robotgeek: ok
[01:55] <Rocco83> i know that in ubuntu i can disable automount in "System->Preferences->Removable Drives & Media", but i have kubuntu. where can i find a tool like this (without installing ubuntu-desktop)?
[02:35] <richy> moin moin.
[02:37] <richy> hat wer twinview mit enemy territory eingestellt bekommen? starten tuts, jedoch ist der screen nur auf einem moni...
[02:49] <visik7> systemsettings isn't in 3.5 anymore ?
[02:50] <JakubS> Riddell: ping
[02:51] <Riddell> JakubS: hi
[02:52] <JakubS> is your kdnssd-avahi package available for download somewhere? i would like to reproduce kwin4 and other problems
[02:56] <Riddell> JakubS: http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/avahi
[03:00] <Crystufer> Anyone know how to make a disk bootable?
[03:00] <Crystufer> I just slipstreamed my windows install disk.
[03:08] <B[u] ZzY> how can i pass to ubuntu
[03:08] <B[u] ZzY> ?
[03:10] <Crystufer> What do you mean>?
[03:20] <JakubS> Riddell: do i need updated kdelibs and kdenetwork packages?
[03:22] <Riddell> JakubS: hmm, quite probably
[03:23] <Riddell> don't know if they're in the archives yet
[03:25] <B[u] ZzY> come visualizzo lo spazio libero su disco?
[03:26] <visik7> B[u] ZzY: this is an english channel
[03:26] <visik7> B[u] ZzY: use english
[03:26] <visik7> please
[03:26] <visik7> or /join #ubuntu-it
[03:26] <visik7> lisa crash
[03:28] <nlindblad> hello
[03:31] <visik7> if I run kfmclient openURL lan:/ everything goes ok
[03:31] <visik7> if I browse it from system:/
[03:31] <visik7> it crask konqueror
[03:32] <dipnlik> visik7: what is lan:/ ? doesn't work here
[03:33] <visik7> dipnlik: apt-get install lisa
[03:33] <dipnlik> visik7: oh, ok
[03:33] <visik7> are u using kde 3.5 or 3.4 ?
[03:33] <nlindblad> visik7: have you searched for it among the bugs?
[03:33] <nlindblad> there are a few URL-specific bugs in konqueror
[03:33] <visik7> nlindblad: not yet, where kde bugs or kubuntu bugs ?
[03:34] <nlindblad> visik7: both
[03:34] <visik7> and I'm using kde 3.5 could be a problem ?
[03:34] <nlindblad> visik7: considered stable so there shouldn't be a problem
[03:34] <nlindblad> but there are always bugs
[03:34] <nlindblad> stable is no exception
[03:35] <visik7> :)
[03:36] <nlindblad> Riddell: ping
[03:37] <dipnlik> visik7: kde 3.4 here, works fine
[03:37] <Riddell> nlindblad: hi
[03:37] <visik7> dipnlik: have u configured lisa ?
[03:38] <nlindblad> Riddell: hello
[03:38] <dipnlik> visik7: no, actually just installed and tested ;-)
[03:38] <visik7> dipnlik: first run work for me too
[03:38] <dipnlik> will try a little more
[03:38] <nlindblad> Riddell: are there any specific requirements for commiting to Kubuntu?
[03:38] <nlindblad> Riddell: just help out where you can
[03:41] <Riddell> nlindblad: no requirements at all, we accept anything that's helpful
[03:41] <Riddell> nlindblad: what kind of thing do you want to get in?
[03:42] <JakubS> Riddell: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade didn't bring kdelibs with libkdnssd.so.1 removed
[03:42] <JakubS> i guess it is not yet in archive
[03:42] <nlindblad> Riddell: I don't know what specific area
[03:46] <Riddell> nlindblad: well hang around #kubuntu-devel for a start
[03:46] <Riddell> JakubS: you too probably :)
[03:46] <nlindblad> oki
[03:46] <JakubS> ok
[03:46] <Riddell> nlindblad: and best way in is probably to fix bugs, today is bug day!
[03:46] <nlindblad> oh
[04:00] <slow-motion> bbl
[04:03] <Blippe> yay for bugs in amarok!!!
[04:16] <_mario> j
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[04:16] <_mario> j
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[04:19] <melonipoika> hi guys, has someone installed network simulator in ubuntu?
[04:20] <slow-motion> re
[04:21] <Tm_T> melonipoika: #ubuntu.fi @ ircnet tai #ubuntu-fi @ freenode
[04:22] <melonipoika> Tm_T: en puhu suomea tosi hyvin, kkitos
[04:22] <melonipoika> uy
[04:22] <melonipoika> kiitos
[04:28] <Tm_T> melonipoika: ok sir
[04:29] <Tm_T> melonipoika: what about network simulator?
[04:29] <melonipoika> i am trying to install it from source, i found a howto for ubuntu
[04:29] <melonipoika> but i get an error about tcl
[04:29] <Tm_T> and error is...
[04:29] <melonipoika> configure: error: Installation of tcl seems incomplete or can't be found automatically.
[04:29] <melonipoika> this :D
[04:30] <melonipoika> i read that it is a problem of path, but have no idea how to solve it
[04:30] <melonipoika> sorry, i need to go for a moment, i will read when i'm back. Thanks for the help
[04:32] <Tm_T> melonipoika: re-check your tcl install at first
[04:33] <visik7> what's the difference between ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.5/kubuntu/ and http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 ???
[04:39] <WangWeiLin> Hi I have Problems with the wpa_supplicant
[04:40] <WangWeiLin> I am using a WPA-PSK (TKIP) connection and this is my config
[04:40] <WangWeiLin> network={
[04:40] <WangWeiLin>         ssid="RK_Home"
[04:40] <WangWeiLin>         scan_ssid=1
[04:40] <WangWeiLin>         key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
[04:40] <WangWeiLin>         #psk="Lebrechtstr.121-Klitzke"
[04:40] <WangWeiLin>         psk="4C656272656368747374722E3132312D4B6C69747A6B65"
[04:40] <WangWeiLin>         pairwise=TKIP
[04:40] <WangWeiLin>         group=TKIP
[04:40] <WangWeiLin>         proto=WPA
[04:40] <WangWeiLin>         priority=5
[04:40] <WangWeiLin> }
[04:41] <melonipoika> Tm_T: hi, i'm back
[04:41] <melonipoika> yes, i did it with apt-get, but it said that it is already instaled
[04:41] <WangWeiLin> can somebody help me
[04:43] <crimsun> WangWeiLin: erm, your psk is incorrect
[04:44] <crimsun> WangWeiLin: it obviously won't associate w/ your AP as a result
[04:44] <Tm_T> WangWeiLin: please use pastebin
[04:44] <WangWeiLin> I don't think thats the Problem I just changed the psk
[04:44] <crimsun> the correct value is: psk=f619dd25ebce6aca15c785f0dd9fefe077a9c637eb1c021ec51313083a6cebde
[04:45] <WangWeiLin> <
[04:47] <Tm_T> SethGecko: :o
[04:51] <tech9iner> moin kMates..
[04:52] <tech9iner> any mates using motorola cellphones can recommend best data cable app / phone tools for use on kubuntu please?.. thanks mates..
[04:52] <crimsun> WangWeiLin: ?
[04:56] <iantec> when i install aps on an account.....will all the account be able to use that application too?
[04:58] <WangWeiLin> crimsun: yes thank you for the help but that was not the problem my stupid self forgot about the little detail that I turned dhcp offer off on my AP
[05:02] <theD3viL> Where is Konsole file for start or kopete - they arent in /usr/bin
[05:02] <crimsun> heh.
[05:03] <sas171> theD3viL: echo $PATH
[05:04] <theD3viL> sas171: in one of this directories?
[05:04] <sas171> theD3viL: sure
[05:05] <theD3viL> sas171: k tnx
[05:06] <sas171> np
[05:08] <burepe2> how do I kill a program from the command line?
[05:10] <blackflag> do "ps aux"
[05:10] <blackflag> read the number of the process
[05:11] <blackflag> then kill number
[05:11] <burepe2> which column is that?
[05:12] <burepe2> I can't see the top
[05:12] <sas171> burepe2: shift+pg up
[05:13] <burepe2> is the number the pid?
[05:13] <WangWeiLin> crimsun
[05:13] <WangWeiLin> still there
[05:13] <sas171> burepe2: ye
[05:13] <sas171> s
[05:14] <burepe2> what is the kill command? kill 10536
[05:14] <burepe2> ?
[05:14] <jvaughan> hi
[05:14] <jvaughan> what program do you want to kill?
[05:14] <blackflag> or you can do killall program
[05:14] <blackflag> sometimes it is needed
[05:15] <blackflag> burepe2: correct
[05:15] <iantec> anyone here folding?
[05:15] <burepe2> I did cntrl+alt+f3 to get a command line. How do I get back to the gui?
[05:15] <burepe2> startx?
[05:15] <jvaughan> alt+f7, probably
[05:15] <burepe2> thanks!
[05:15] <blackflag> normaly F7
[05:28] <Foodcoman> Morning
[05:30] <rjm101> Hi all, I am a fairly newbie and need help on a web cam spca5xx
[05:32] <arrinmurr> rjm101: what's your problem with it?
[05:33] <rjm101> I can install everything, it is seen in video but it is not seen by any other program
[05:34] <arrinmurr> rjm101: what programs have you tried?
[05:34] <Robin13> views
[05:34] <Robin13> err
[05:35] <Robin13> how to add things in konqueror? like, you can switch to kFS and stuff or something like that..
[05:35] <Robin13> i mean different ways to view stuff
[05:35] <Robin13> and something different than kHTML
[05:35] <Robin13> how to do that?
[05:35] <rjm101> gnomemeeting easy web cam and camorama weeb cam
[05:35] <Robin13> what i mean is view mode.
[05:35] <theD3viL> Where are MIME icons in icewm?
[05:36] <arrinmurr> rjm101: and there's /dev/video0 ?
[05:37] <rjm101> it says it cannot connect to device /dev/video0
[05:39] <melonipoika> hi, do you know how can i get libtcl8.4?
[05:39] <melonipoika> i can't find it in the repos
[05:39] <melonipoika> neither in google...
[05:39] <iantec> what is the equival;ent of my computer in kubuntu?
[05:39] <arrinmurr> rjm101: so it doesn't exist? if you open up terminal and type "ls /dev/video*" what does it say?
[05:40] <kaenat> Is there an eclipse package for ubuntu?
[05:40] <rjm101> Just checked, and there is not file called video0 in /dev   how do I make it
[05:41] <arrinmurr> rjm101: try to unplug your camera, and plug it in again. then type "less /var/log/syslog" and see what's said in the end
[05:43] <rjm101> ok, the last thing is starting ppp
[05:44] <rjm101> nothing about cam
[05:44] <rjm101> or ussb
[05:44] <arrinmurr> hmm..
[05:44] <arrinmurr> what camera is it?
[05:45] <rjm101> I am using spca5xx-20060101
[05:45] <rjm101> pixart x-eye, it worked with mandrake le
[05:47] <rjm101> spca5xx is loaded with  videodev
[05:47] <rjm101> usb shows it
[05:48] <rjm101> how do I make a node for video0
[05:51] <arrinmurr> i don't really know much about webcams, i just know that the spca5xx driver shipped with breezy is broken, but after i compiled the latest driver (well, the driver that was latest at that time), everything has worked just by plugging the camera in
[05:52] <arrinmurr>  /dev/video0 should appear automatically, and there really should be something in /var/log/syslog ...
[05:56] <rjm101> just reinstalled it spca5xx and everthing was ok. still no video0 in /dev
[05:58] <sabaki> prob: i added a hard drive on /dev/hdd that has a reiserfs partition and data, but can't seem to mount it with 'sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hd'  all it says is 'mount: /dev/hdd1 already mounted or /mnt/hd busy' but is isn't mounted! what gives?
[05:59] <sabaki> i tried adding it to fstab, too and it won't mount on reboot either
[05:59] <rjm101> arrinmurr will keep trying to get it, and thanks for the help
[06:00] <sabaki> it isn'at mounted and /mnt/hd shouldn't be busy
[06:04] <joshisscifi> hey all
[06:06] <sabaki> can any of youse guys help me get this hard drive mounted?
[06:11] <callie> sabaki: you've tried running 'df' to see if it is mounted ?
[06:12] <sabaki> callie ? of course and 'mount' as well
[06:13] <sabaki> callie > and sudo fdisk /dev/hdd   it shows up just as it should
[06:25] <gibarian> hey everyone
[06:25] <gibarian> can anyone tell me how to find out via netstat which connection is presently sending/receiving data?
[06:29] <wermut> Can someone help me with a sudoers file?
[06:29] <darkheart> !helpme
[06:29] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:29] <funky> hey
[06:29] <wermut> I don't know what's wrong with my modifications, can I paste the file and ask you why it does not work?
[06:29] <Tm_T> alo
[06:30] <Tm_T> wermut: use pastebin
[06:30] <Tm_T> !paste
[06:30] <ubotu> hmm... paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[06:30] <Tm_T> ...or kubuntu.pastebin.com
[06:32] <wermut> I pasted it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6967
[06:32] <wermut> I want that I can execute the command without being asked for a password, but sudo keeps asking for it.
[06:35] <wermut> Any suggestions?
[06:36] <joshisscifi> your sudo pw is the pw to your account
[06:36] <darkheart> wermut: You need to add 'NOPASSWD'
[06:36] <joshisscifi> once you enter it once it has a timeout that it won't ask you it again... dunno what the timeout is though
[06:36] <darkheart> wermut: Err...ME work?
[06:37] <darkheart> joshisscifi: He doesn't want to enter the password at all.
[06:37] <joshisscifi> yeah, I figured that out after I read it again lol
[06:37] <darkheart> Hehe.
[06:37] <joshisscifi> been a long day
[06:37] <wermut> darkheart: What's wrong with ME?
[06:37] <joshisscifi> 1 more class to go.... phew
[06:37] <darkheart> wermut: Your user's name is ME?
[06:38] <wermut> No, ME is supposed to be an alias for "xxxx" (Of course xxx is not my real username)
[06:39] <darkheart> wermut: Ahh okay, did you try s/LOCAL/ALL/ ?
[06:39] <wermut> Where should i put that?
[06:39] <darkheart> wermut: Change the part where is says LOCAL to ALL
[06:39] <darkheart> s/is/it
[06:40] <wermut> It still keeps asking for my password
[06:40] <darkheart> wermut: Try without the alias.
[06:41] <darkheart> wermut: You are editing the file with the command 'visudo' right?
[06:41] <wermut> Tried it, did not work. I use visudo.
[06:43] <joshisscifi> visudo or vi sudo?
[06:43] <joshisscifi> or.... tricky... do you have to sudo vi sudo
[06:43] <darkheart> it's 'sudo visudo'
[06:43] <nagyv> Are here KHotKey expperts? I would like to control my xmms using its keys, but without having to focus on the xmms window. I have found the xmms plugin for kde, which has this feature, but I don't need the plugin, just the shortcuts.
[06:44] <wermut> I type "sudo visudo" to edit the file (why does that matter?)
[06:44] <darkheart> wermut: Because that's how you are supposed to edit it. My previous comment was directed towards joshisscifi.
[06:45] <joshisscifi> and mine... was directed to nobody lol
[06:45] <joshisscifi> me and /dev/null have become such good friends as of late
[06:46] <joshisscifi> I hate watching the minutes tick by until class starts
[06:48] <poldo> !restrictedformats
[06:48] <ubotu> methinks restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:51] <darkheart> Wow, that's really lame. I ctrl+alt+f2 to drop to console and when I alt+f7 it decides I didn't want my current X session and closes it and I'm kicked to kdm.
[06:52] <darkheart> (*@#&$(*@&#(*@^)(* all my work.
[06:56] <snaggle> How do i connect to  a windows computer using kubuntu?
[06:56] <darkheart> snaggle: Connect how?
[07:01] <kaenat> snaggle: Try smb4k
[07:02] <snaggle> I want to download some of my dvds to my laptop that is running Kubuntu 5.10
[07:02] <snaggle> And i dont now how to connect to my other computer, i am new to linux
[07:06] <arrinmurr> snaggle: are you sharing the files in your windows computer or something?
[07:11] <poldo> !flash
[07:11] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:11] <arrinmurr> snaggle: if you just want to access your windows shares, you can do it easily by typing " smb:/ " in konqueror
[07:13] <poldo> anyone: i read in the restriced formats wiki that i need to install a package called flashplayer-mozilla but there's no such package , instead there are libflash-mozplugin. is that the same?
[07:13] <poldo> thanks
[07:15] <arrinmurr> poldo: try flashplugin-nonfree
[07:16] <arrinmurr> poldo: flashplayer-mozilla _does_ exist too though
[07:17] <arrinmurr> poldo: but it's in multiverse. read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:19] <sheepeatingtaz> poldo: I can recommend http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic for getting a sources.list with everything you need
[07:20] <Blippe> !weather stockholm
[07:20] <Blippe> !backports
[07:20] <ubotu> backports is, like, Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" (without the ") to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[07:20] <poldo> thx arrinmurr
[07:20] <poldo> thx a shee
[07:20] <poldo> thx a sheepeatingtaz
[07:27] <poldo> sheepeatingtaz, that was great thanks =)
[07:27] <AoP> I have 3 main partitions each are 50GB each, One with Linux, one with windows, and the other one I was just fooling with, is it possible to combine it with my windows partition?
[07:31] <AoP> Or make it so they can both access it
[07:31] <AoP> Right now only my windows partition can.
[07:32] <Robin13> how can i get big icons on desktop?
[07:33] <sheepeatingtaz> AoP: what filesystem is it?
[07:33] <Robin13> please guys don't ignore me cuz of my nickname
[07:34] <Robin13> cuz i have to go to sleep soon
[07:34] <sampan> robin13  kmenu--> system settings --> appearance --> icons --> advanced tab  ... and set the icon size (up to 128 pixels) for the Desktop/File Manager line
[07:34] <sproingie> i think there are far sillier nicks
[07:34] <sheepeatingtaz> Robin13: Sorry, I don't have icons on my desktop, so I can't help
[07:34] <sproingie> mine for instance
[07:34] <AoP> What do ya mean sheepeatingtaz =\
[07:37] <sheepeatingtaz> AoP: FAT32? NTFS? I'm assuming it's one of these, as you can see it windows, so setting it up as a Samba share could be an option?
[07:38] <AoP> I think my windows is FAT32 and Linux is NTFS,
[07:38] <AoP> Or it's the other way around..
[07:38] <nlindblad> yeah
[07:38] <nlindblad> AoP: are you in your Linux-system now?
[07:38] <AoP> Yeah
[07:38] <nlindblad> have a look at /etc/fstab
[07:39] <nlindblad> there you can see what filesystems Linux is using
[07:39] <AoP> will fdisk -l do the same thing?
[07:39] <nlindblad> it won't show what filesystem, just how you have divided the harddrive into partitions
[07:39] <DaSkreech> Why does kwin keep krashing?
[07:40] <nlindblad> DaSkreech: KDE version?
[07:40] <DaSkreech> 3.5
[07:40] <AoP> brb gotta do something.
[07:42] <nlindblad> DaSkreech: not messages? When does it crash?
[07:43] <poldo> !freeformats
[07:43] <ubotu> I heard freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[07:44] <DaSkreech> Seems to happen when windows slides
[07:45] <nlindblad> only two bugs at bugzilla.ubuntu.com belong to kwn
[07:45] <nlindblad> *kwin
[07:45] <nlindblad> none of them are like yours
[07:46] <nlindblad> although at bugs.kde.org there are plenty of bugs regarding kwin
[07:46] <DaSkreech> It just crashes
[07:46] <DaSkreech> Try kill kwin and then fix it :-)
[07:46] <DaSkreech> It's pretty hard to get it running again
[07:47] <nlindblad> does it give you a "Kwin has a problem" dialogue or just dies?
[07:48] <nlindblad> DaSkreech: in most cases when kwin crashes it's the theme that is buggy, not kwin
[07:49] <darkheart> Anyone have any idea what shift+space might do? It keeps putting my text input into some alternate input mode and either some character will appear with a colored background or nothing will appear.
[07:49] <darkheart> It's killing me to code.
[07:50] <nlindblad> shift+space? nothing special
[07:50] <AoP> Hello
[07:50] <nlindblad> hi AoP
[07:50] <AoP> I just chedk my windows partition it's NTFS
[07:50] <darkheart> It's screwing up my typing...At first I thought my keyboard was just dying for some windows
[07:50] <nlindblad> AoP: and the Linux one?
[07:50] <AoP> My linux is fat32, and so is my "storage" partition
[07:51] <darkheart> But I noticed if I hit shift+space it causes something to happen
[07:51] <nlindblad> AoP: okey
[07:51] <nlindblad> darkheart: sure you don't have a weird shortcut on that combination?
[07:51] <sampan> darkheart, maybe there's a shortcut
[07:51] <darkheart> nlindblad: No, I'm not sure, but where would I look?
[07:51] <sampan> sudo kcontrol --> regional and accessibility --> keyboard shortcuts
[07:51] <nlindblad> yeah
[07:51] <AoP> nlindblad: I used to be able to access teh storage one, and see my swap drive and windows partition, but I was denied access to the windows one, now their is nothing in my media folder =(
[07:52] <sampan> darkheart  you can also get there by system settings too
[07:53] <DaSkreech> darkheart: Thats katapult
[07:54] <nlindblad> AoP: can you access the storage one from Linux?
[07:54] <DaSkreech>  I'm guessing
[07:54] <DaSkreech> nlindblad: Well I am running baghira
[07:54] <nlindblad> tried another theme?
[07:54] <AoP> OOo I can now,
[07:54] <nlindblad> and see if it happens again
[07:54] <DaSkreech> nlindblad: Not yet
[07:54] <AoP> I tried useing krusader and it let me.
[07:55] <AoP> It says my windows partition is locked though.
[07:55] <AoP> Do I just need to compress it so it becomes fat32?
[07:55] <nlindblad> NTFS is usually only readable for root
[07:55] <darkheart> sampan: Thanks, but no luck =\
[07:55] <nlindblad> but you can choose to mount the NTFS-partition so that everyone in the system can read it
[07:55] <sampan> darkheart  drat :/  does it happen only in one app?  or all the time?
[07:56] <AoP> nlindblad would it be easier and just as effective to boot windows, and compress it so it becomes fat32?
[07:56] <darkheart> sampan: It happens on any app it seems. It happens in the konsole when I'm coding in vi, it happened in konversation a little while ago. I do it pretty much anywhere.
[07:56] <nlindblad> AoP: I don't think you can convert it back, but it's worth a try
[07:57] <AoP> Alrighty.
[07:57] <AoP> brb then
[07:57] <sampan> darkheart  weird!
[07:57] <darkheart> sampan: yeah ; ; It really sucks. I can't figure out what's wrong. It just started happening today
[07:59] <sampan> darkheart, only thing i can think of is a shortcut, esp. since it's happening all the time.
[08:00] <darkheart> sampan: I couldn't find any that had shift+space attached to them =\ The only thing I could think of was I had scim installed before for Japanese input, but have since uninstalled and it used ctrl+space anyway, I think.
[08:02] <AoP> Uh oh
[08:02] <sampan> darkheart  yeah scim uses cntl-space ... i've had it on too, and deinstalling didn't cause that for me. maybe the settings in kcontrol are system-wide and system-settings are user-only?  maybe their different?
[08:02] <sampan> :/
[08:02] <sampan> they're*
[08:03] <AoP> nlindblad Im confuzzeled.
[08:06] <nlindblad> AoP: over what? Don't worry, well sort this out
[08:06] <nlindblad> *we'll
[08:06] <AoP> Everything =(
[08:06] <nlindblad> what is it that you wanna do?
[08:06] <AoP> So is it possible to make it so I can access a NTFS partition on Linux?
[08:07] <nlindblad> you can read it
[08:07] <nlindblad> but the writing is still a bit experimental
[08:07] <nlindblad> fixed in the newer kernels though
[08:08] <_DOddo> hi! is it possible to mount folders shared through samba?
[08:08] <AoP> So I wouldn't be able to say.. Play a music file off of it?
[08:08] <nlindblad> that is reading, so yes
[08:08] <slow-motion> bbl
[08:08] <nlindblad> _DOddo: yeah
[08:09] <_DOddo> nlindblad: okay is it easy?
[08:09] <AoP> oh ok
[08:09] <nlindblad> _DOddo: http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountnetworkfoldersall
[08:10] <_DOddo> nlindblad: thanx a lot =)
[08:10] <nlindblad> _DOddo: don't know how familiar you are with the internal workings of a Linux-system, but I wouldn't say it's that hard
[08:10] <nlindblad> AoP: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[08:11] <nlindblad> AoP: if you do that you can make all users read from it
[08:11] <nlindblad> AoP: you can't write things to it though
[08:11] <AoP> Alright, can NTFS read off of a FAT32?
[08:11] <_DOddo> nlindblad: okay thanks again!
[08:12] <dark_suic> hi
[08:12] <nlindblad> _DOddo: did that answer your question?
[08:12] <nlindblad> AoP: both NTFS and FAT32 are possible to mount readable
[08:12] <dark_suic> i've got a problem with an gui application that has been left opened while the process is dead...
[08:12] <dark_suic> how can i kill the window???
[08:12] <_DOddo> nlindblad:  yes it dit!
[08:12] <nlindblad> dark_suic: xkill
[08:13] <AoP> Alright
[08:13] <nlindblad> dark_suic: then click the window that you wanna kill
[08:13] <AoP> Ill brb I gotta reboot, can you relink me when I come back nlindblad?
[08:13] <nlindblad> AoP: of course
[08:13] <dark_suic> i've seen its man, thanks nlindblad  :)
[08:13] <AoP> ty =)
[08:14] <dark_suic> nlindblad, and when xkill doesn't kill it??? i know that restarting xserver will do it, but i would like to know if there is a lighter way....
[08:15] <nlindblad> dark_suic: xkill only tries to kill the process owning the GUI
[08:15] <dark_suic> ok, the process is no more there, but the window remains...
[08:15] <nlindblad> dark_suic: KDE usually asks you if you wanna kill it when it hangs like that
[08:15] <dark_suic> i know, but it has happened to me with this exact app quite a lot of times....
[08:16] <nlindblad> sounds like a bug then
[08:16] <nlindblad> what application are we talking about?
[08:16] <dark_suic> cedega
[08:17] <dark_suic> it happens when i click twice on the access icon of a game accidentaly (just wanna click once)
[08:17] <nlindblad> okey
[08:17] <nlindblad> weird
[08:18] <dark_suic> i know...
[08:18] <dark_suic> :P
[08:18] <nlindblad> maybe others are having similiar problems
[08:18] <nlindblad> I'd check out the forums
[08:18] <dark_suic> ok, thank u :)
[08:18] <dark_suic> i'll try searching too
[08:18] <nlindblad> sorry I can't be of more helpt
[08:18] <nlindblad> *help
[08:19] <dynex> hey, can someone help me config x11 for dual monitors
[08:20] <nlindblad> same graphic card or two different cards?
[08:20] <AoP> nlindblad: relink please
[08:20] <dynex> two of them
[08:20] <dark_suic> nevermind, you've been of great help (i didn't know about xkill, sounds interesting although maybe dangerous)
[08:20] <nlindblad> AoP: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[08:20] <dynex> one agp card one pci
[08:21] <nlindblad> dynex: are both cards working?
[08:21] <nlindblad> individualy
[08:21] <dynex> well they work... just not setup in x
[08:21] <dynex> u mean two desktops or one spanned desktop?
[08:22] <dark_suic> well, i guess that for the moment i'm restarting kdm :P
[08:22] <dark_suic> thx nlindblad for the help :)
[08:23] <dynex> nlindblad: PM
[08:23] <AoP> nlindblad I'm gonna try it, wish me luck =)
[08:23] <AoP> This wont reformat the drive will it =\
[08:23] <dynex> LOL
[08:24] <nlindblad> AoP: good luck :D
[08:24] <dynex> ntfs doesnt have permissions your jest telling it how to deal with the crazy filesystem
[08:24] <dynex> just*
[08:24] <nlindblad> dynex: the best tip I can give you is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[08:24] <nlindblad> dynex: they're full with similiar threads
[08:25] <dynex> i just cant get xconfig to detect the second card... it only detects the primary, agp
[08:25] <AoP> mount /dev/hda2 media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls-utf8,umask=0222
[08:25] <AoP> nlindblad: it's location is hda2 not hda1, so do I just change it to that ^
[08:25] <nlindblad> AoP: yeah
[08:25] <AoP> k
[08:27] <nlindblad> I'm not gonna be around more tonight
[08:27] <AoP> mount: /dev/hda2 already mounted or /media/windows/ busy
[08:27] <AoP> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda2 is mounted on /media/hda2
[08:27] <nlindblad> good luck with everything guys
[08:27] <nlindblad> AoP: umount /dev/hda2 first
[08:28] <AoP> okie
[08:28] <AoP> so just sudo unmount /dev/hda2?
[08:28] <nlindblad> yeah
[08:28] <AoP> cmd not found
[08:28] <nlindblad> umount
[08:29] <AoP> ooo
[08:29] <nlindblad> sorry, read your unmount as umount
[08:29] <nlindblad> :D
[08:29] <AoP> lol I read your umount as unmount =)
[08:29] <nlindblad> well, like I said, I'm off
[08:29] <nlindblad> see you guys
[08:29] <AoP> It worked!
[08:30] <AoP> Thank you =)
[08:30] <AoP> And I'll ttyl
[08:39] <PeterSomnium> someone in here has experience with wireless lan on an Acer Aspire 3002?
[08:42] <ejofee> how do i enable the flash plugin in opera?
[08:43] <robotgeek> PeterSomnium, does the wireless wiki page say that it's supported?
[08:43] <robotgeek> !wireless
[08:43] <ubotu> it has been said that wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[08:43] <darkheart> sampan: Ahhhh...I found it =)
[08:44] <slow-motion> re
[08:44] <Blippe> I want to direct different audiostreams to differnent places can i apply TWO mixers some way?
[08:45] <PeterSomnium> robotgeek: I configured my wlan card with ndiswrapper, it sees the card, and gives it an ipadress with dhclient, but when I do that, my wired connection is totally gone, and the wlan doesnt work either, even though it says in Kwifimanager that he is connected to the wlan
[08:45] <darkheart> sampan: It turns out that it was an input methoder..I'm not sure why it was broken (must have just kicked in today cause I rebooted for the first time in a while)
[08:45] <robotgeek> Riddell, is the launchpad page https://launchpad.net/people/kubuntu-team only for developers?
[08:46] <robotgeek> PeterSomnium, how comfortable are you with the command line. i can help you out though
[08:47] <sampan> darkheart, was it scim?
[08:47] <robotgeek> PeterSomnium, type 'iwconfig' in a console
[08:47] <sampan> or a different one?
[08:47] <Blippe> !scim
[08:47] <ubotu> I guess scim is Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Language input. http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[08:47] <PeterSomnium> robotgeek: quite comfortable ^^
[08:48] <darkheart> sampan: No it was not. I must have uninstalled scim and not uninstalled the other packages (uim-anthy, etc.). For some reason, it loaded up a uim server after I booted and that's what was grabbing the keyboard control when I hit shift+space
[08:48] <robotgeek> PeterSomnium, does iwconfig show that you are connected to the AP
[08:48] <PeterSomnium> it does
[08:49] <PeterSomnium> it gives the hardware adress of the AP
[08:49] <PeterSomnium> link quality is 100/100
[08:49] <sampan> darkheart  gotcha.  glad you figured it out though.  fwiw, scim packages from the repos lock up my kubuntu like fort knox -- had to uninstall because i couldn't even cntrl-alt-backspace to get to a text prompt -- i'm dying for a dapper backport of scim :/
[08:52] <Riddell> robotgeek: yes, users can join kubuntu-users
[08:52] <ejofee> how do i enable the flash plugin in opera?
[08:52] <Riddell> robotgeek: or you can become a developer :)
[08:52] <robotgeek> PeterSomnium, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiTroubleshooting
[08:53] <robotgeek> Riddell, i joined the team. awaiting moderation
[08:54] <robotgeek> Riddell, now that i have an x86 machine also, i can test builds on x86 and ppc.
[08:54] <darkheart> sampan: Yeah, it seems scim has been having trouble since after 5.04
[08:55] <sampan> darkheart  yep.  :/   dapper backports are my last, best hope for peace! ... err scim!
[08:55] <robotgeek> PeterSomnium, can your AP see your card?
[08:55] <bettong_BOFH> how do you completely remove kubuntu if you installed it via apt-get? and don't say sudo apt-get remove either as i tryed that and i still have most of the crap here
[08:56] <robotgeek> bettong_BOFH, deborphan is the way to go, i guess
[08:56] <PeterSomnium> robotgeek: havent checked yet :/
[08:56] <bettong_BOFH> deborphan? whats that?
[08:57] <robotgeek> !info deborphan
[08:57] <ubotu> deborphan: (Find orphaned libraries), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.7.15 (breezy), Packaged size: 53 kB, Installed size: 316 kB
[08:57] <bettong_BOFH> oh wow
[08:57] <bettong_BOFH> ok that might work lol
[08:57] <bettong_BOFH> ^_^
[08:57] <bettong_BOFH> and will that remove it from the GUI selections at boot as well?
[08:58] <robotgeek> bettong_BOFH, meaning?
[08:58] <robotgeek> bettong_BOFH, from kdm/gdm, you mean? after you remove it, yes
[08:58] <bettong_BOFH> you know when you go to log into ubuntu
[08:58] <bettong_BOFH> and you can choose the sessions? thats what i mean lol
[08:59] <robotgeek> yeah, if you remove it, yes
[08:59] <S4nD3r> Is it possible to edit a PDF file in linux ???
[08:59] <Riddell> robotgeek: well you have to do some kubuntu development first :)
[08:59] <S4nD3r> I already have the PDF file
[08:59] <robotgeek> Riddell, gotcha :)
[09:00] <Riddell> robotgeek: help out with Kubuntu Bug Day in #ubuntu-bugs
[09:00] <robotgeek> Riddell, sure. will do. have done that before once, it was fun
[09:01] <robotgeek> Riddell, since joining the team was the first thing on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingKubuntu :)
[09:01] <PeterSomnium> robotgeek: cant see logs for my AP, Im using a broadband modem, with a wireless router attached to it, so the wlan router doesnt make logs
[09:01] <bettong_BOFH> hmm
[09:02] <robotgeek> PeterSomnium, you might have to enable logging, i am using the same setup
[09:02] <bettong_BOFH> theres all sortsa crap heere that it says is useless.....this looks to have the ability to screw your system up quite bad lol
[09:02] <PeterSomnium> robotgeek: the wireless router is really a dumb thing, without an config panel or something
[09:03] <bettong_BOFH> is there something i should be on the lookout for to get rid of everything?
[09:05] <apollo2011> I am trying to install the Acqua theme from Kde-look.org, and I don't see IceWM listed in the Window Decoratins menu.  Is there something I need to do to get IceWM to show up
[09:06] <jpgeerets> hi folks
[09:06] <jpgeerets> im tring to install FTD
[09:06] <jpgeerets> this program needs PCRE
[09:06] <jpgeerets> someone know where i can find pcre?
[09:07] <robotgeek> bettong_BOFH, just remove kubuntu-desktop in deborphan
[09:08] <Riddell> robotgeek: we also have #kubuntu-devel for general development stuff
[09:09] <robotgeek> Riddell, hmm i think i bugged you in there once, quite some time ago :)
[09:09] <Snake__> Hmmm is that the real Riddell?
[09:09] <bettong_BOFH> thank you for your help everyone i really appriciate it ^^
[09:11] <Foodcoman> Snake__: Tis the one!
[09:11] <Riddell> Snake__: err, dunno, who's he?
[09:12] <Snake__> :-D lol, respect all the stuff your teams doing man, great job :)
[09:13] <Foodcoman> Great stuff!
[09:13] <Foodcoman> me applaudes!
[09:13] <Snake__> Indeed
[09:15] <Snake__> :)
[09:15] <Snake__> Quick n00b question, do you (Or he depending on who answers) lead KDE or kubuntu or both??
[09:16] <DaSkreech> Lead KDE?
[09:16] <DaSkreech> woah
[09:17] <Snake__> DaSkreech, From what i'm reading, he leads kubuntu dev.
[09:17] <AoP> Who does?
[09:17] <Snake__> Riddell... lol
[09:18] <AoP> I like riddels
[09:18] <MenZa> Riddles*
[09:18] <AoP> Riddles*
[09:18] <MenZa> I can't help it, it's in my nature to correct other people's mistakes :(
[09:19] <AoP> =(
[09:20] <Riddell> Snake__: yes, I lead kubuntu
[09:20] <Riddell> thanks for the complements all :)
[09:20] <Snake__> Riddell, Very sweet man...Best OS i've used yet! :)
[09:21] <DaSkreech> m0ns00n: Hello?
[09:21] <Snake__> Alright guys, I gotta go fix a XP machine
[09:21] <Snake__> ill ttyl
[09:31] <djk_> Riddell: do you know when KDE4 will be released?
[09:33] <Ilokaasu-> My internet connection worked 3 days, then i booted normally today and my connection didnt work anymore, i can give ifconfig listnings etc on pm if someone wants to help...
[09:33] <robotgeek> Ilokaasu-, no need for PM's, let's just discuss here
[09:33] <Riddell> djk_: this year or next year
[09:33] <Ilokaasu-> fine
[09:33] <Ilokaasu-> i didnt change anything
[09:34] <Ilokaasu-> internet connection @ kubuntu just stopped working
[09:34] <jjesse> my connection just dropped too
[09:34] <DaSkreech> djk_: When it's done
[09:34] <robotgeek> Ilokaasu-, can you paste the output of the commands "lsmod" and the contents of /etc/network/interfaces to the pastebin
[09:34] <djk_> DaSkreech: quite obviously..
[09:35] <DaSkreech> 1. KDE never sets time frames as far as I know
[09:35] <Ilokaasu-> robotgeek i just paste them to that page @ topic ?
[09:36] <DaSkreech> 2. They are going to take time to get this right
[09:36] <djk_> well, someone in kde mentioned july 06, but that was a little while ago..
[09:37] <DaSkreech> You could hang around kdedevelopers.org
[09:37] <robotgeek> Ilokaasu-, yes to the pastebin
[09:37] <Ilokaasu-> k, i have to go and copy them...i'll be back :P
[09:38] <ZiX> hi all
[09:38] <ZiX> how to install kbfx?
[09:40] <poimen> hi kubunto fellows
[09:40] <poimen> kubuntu***
[09:40] <poimen> someone rining daper?
[09:40] <poimen> dapper
[09:47] <Tm_T> poimen: sure
[09:47] <poimen> :)
[09:47] <poimen> working greate?
[09:47] <Ilokaasu-> backtoback
[09:48] <theD3viL> Where i must put icons to have it in icewm?
[09:48] <robotgeek> Ilokaasu-, welcome back :)
[09:48] <Tm_T> Ilokaasu-: l
[09:48] <Ilokaasu-> :P
[09:48] <poimen> Tm_T : I am downloading it just now :)
[09:48] <Tm_T> poimen: working as great as pre-alpha can work ;)
[09:49] <Tm_T> not really issues now, waiting next borkage
[09:49] <poimen> Tm_T : you kwon how can I help ? I am sure I can build packages in my machine :) but I need to kwon how lol
[09:50] <Ilokaasu-> robotgeek http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/501425  like that ?
[09:50] <poimen> I could build packages for x86-64 and 686(386)
[09:50] <Tm_T> poimen: #kubuntu-devel for start, ask riddell there
[09:50] <funky> I get a kernel panic on my ibook when it tries to mount /
[09:52] <robotgeek> Ilokaasu-, i see that both your wireless card and ethernet connection are detected, modules are loaded etc
[09:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi fellows!
[09:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i'd like to ask you one thing
[09:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i am trying to compile the last version of audacity
[09:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and during the configure time a component is missing
[09:53] <Ilokaasu-> robotgeek yes, wireless worked ok but today it crashed mysteriously :P
[09:54] <theD3viL> Where i must put icons to have it in rox?
[09:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the error is  "Could not find wx-config: is wxWindows installed? is wx-config in your path?"
[09:54] <theD3viL> i mean in rox
[09:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there a way of using apt-get to verify if that component is installed?
[09:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i hope you can help me :D
[09:54] <robotgeek> Tallia1Kubuntu, apt-get build-dep audacity (if it is in the repos)
[09:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> no, i can't use audacity in rep
[09:55] <MrJangles> hello, my usb wireless mouse isnt getting detected. suggestions?
[09:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> does build-dep install only developement files used for compilation?
[09:55] <robotgeek> Tallia1Kubuntu, then you probably need wxwindows-dev
[09:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> E: Couldn't find package wxwindows-dev
[09:57] <Tallia1Kubuntu> isn't there a command to search inside each package for a certain element? in this case wxwindows
[09:57] <robotgeek> Tallia1Kubuntu, apt-cache search
[09:58] <robotgeek> Tallia1Kubuntu, libwxgtk2.6-dev maybe
[09:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see
[09:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> let me try
[09:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> tnx in the meantime..
[09:58] <PeterSomnium> robotgeek: In Kwifimanager I have an ipaddress, frequency, hardwareaddress of the AP, and the name of the AP, but under the button "scan for networks" it states ..Accespoint: UNKNOWN
[09:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> you see anyway, that each time that you have to compile you have to try to install different packages
[09:58] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and each time you don't really know if they were useful or not
[09:59] <Tallia1Kubuntu> my HD is getting full of things i will never use :(
[09:59] <robotgeek> Tallia1Kubuntu, deborphan or install using aptitude
[10:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mhh...... good point :)
[10:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i love IRC
[10:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :)
[10:00] <robotgeek> PeterSomnium, can we just try to connect using cli first? i havent much experience with kwifimanager
[10:00] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what does it changes using aptitude instad of synaptics?
[10:00] <PeterSomnium> cli?
[10:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> kwifimanager is kinda of a mess
[10:01] <robotgeek> PeterSomnium, sorry command line
[10:01] <PeterSomnium> never used cli
[10:01] <PeterSomnium> but i could it a try
[10:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> have you ever try to configure it by hand?
[10:01] <Tallia1Kubuntu> try to verify if there's an eth* entry in your /dev
[10:02] <PeterSomnium> ah, cli = commandline
[10:02] <PeterSomnium> :P
[10:02] <robotgeek> PeterSomnium, how comfortable are you with the command line. i can help you out though. robotgeek: quite comfortable ^^ :)
[10:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> if you have firewire ethernet and wifi installed you should have three entries
[10:02] <PeterSomnium> I have 1 wired ethernet, and a in-built wlan card
[10:03] <PeterSomnium> I should open which file?
[10:03] <MrJangles> is anyone familiar with wireless mouses in ubuntu?
[10:03] <PeterSomnium> ./etc/network/interfaces ?
[10:03] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes, sorry :D
[10:03] <PeterSomnium> I
[10:03] <PeterSomnium> I'll check
[10:04] <Tallia1Kubuntu> MrJangles: i have a bluetooth one
[10:04] <robotgeek> i gotta run now, sorry
[10:04] <MrJangles> was it plug and play?
[10:04] <Tallia1Kubuntu> not at all
[10:04] <MrJangles> any advice? :)
[10:04] <Tallia1Kubuntu> with the new version of kde there are some utilities that makes everything easier
[10:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but only for bluetooth
[10:05] <MrJangles> i updated
[10:05] <MrJangles> oh
[10:05] <MrJangles> its a benq usb wireless mouse
[10:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see
[10:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i think it shuld be plug and play
[10:05] <PeterSomnium> how do I print out commandline output in irc?
[10:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> since all the wireless communication is hided to the system by the usb key
[10:05] <PeterSomnium> *not familiar with irc at all*
[10:05] <Tallia1Kubuntu> PeterSomnium: don't do it
[10:05] <MrJangles> unfortunately its not, i'll try inserting it before booting
[10:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i don't think it will worl
[10:06] <Tallia1Kubuntu> try to see if dmesg shows the usb device insertion
[10:06] <PeterSomnium> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[10:07] <PeterSomnium> and the same one
[10:07] <PeterSomnium> only then with wlan0 instead of eth0
[10:07] <PeterSomnium> eth0 works
[10:07] <MrJangles> yes it shows it
[10:07] <PeterSomnium> but only when wlan0 is off
[10:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> eth0 is the ethernet wired connection
[10:07] <PeterSomnium> I know
[10:07] <MrJangles> lsusb also shows its there
[10:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> wlan0 or eth1 is usually the wireless one
[10:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i use to do the following operations
[10:07] <Tallia1Kubuntu> use ifconfig to abilitate the device
[10:08] <MrJangles> i'll check my batteries, ty
[10:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and then dhclient to sign the ip contract
[10:08] <PeterSomnium> they both get an ipaddress
[10:08] <MrJangles> lol
[10:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> no
[10:08] <MrJangles> someone slap me
[10:08] <PeterSomnium> but when I do dhclient, wlan0 gets an ip, and they both stop working
[10:08] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mhh
[10:09] <MrJangles> works fine
[10:09] <MrJangles> batteries in wrong way....
[10:09] <MrJangles> thanks for the help lol
[10:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> go on terminal
[10:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ahah
[10:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> MrJangles: you're welcome :P
[10:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[10:10] <PeterSomnium> eth1?
[10:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> then type again ifconfig and see if eth1 is in list..
[10:10] <PeterSomnium> I dont have that one
[10:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes, i have eth1 as wireless
[10:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> try it
[10:10] <PeterSomnium> k
[10:10] <PeterSomnium> eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[10:11] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok now try with wireless
[10:11] <PeterSomnium> hmmm, when I do that, I'll probably disconnect from here
[10:11] <PeterSomnium> I'll try
[10:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> wlan0
[10:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> same thing
[10:12] <PeterSomnium> hmm
[10:12] <PeterSomnium> I still seem online :P
[10:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ok
[10:12] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it have been accepted?
[10:12] <PeterSomnium> it didnt gave any errors
[10:13] <PeterSomnium> but I dont know if its working
[10:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> try to type ifconfig
[10:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and look for the wlan0 entry
[10:13] <PeterSomnium> I only know that when I pull out the eth0 cable :P
[10:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> is there the entry?
[10:13] <PeterSomnium> yeah
[10:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> perfect
[10:13] <PeterSomnium> and it seems the same as eth0
[10:13] <Tallia1Kubuntu> perfect
[10:14] <PeterSomnium> only
[10:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> now to obtain a wireless connection you only have to get the ip
[10:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sudo dhclient wlan0
[10:14] <PeterSomnium> the card has an ip, but the broadcast and and the netmask differ
[10:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i dunno that
[10:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i never lose too much time in wifi
[10:15] <PeterSomnium> eth0 is 10.0.0.17 and wlan is 10.0.0.10
[10:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> don't bother about that
[10:15] <PeterSomnium> I know
[10:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it depends upon what are you searching for
[10:15] <PeterSomnium> but the mask and the broadcast differ
[10:15] <PeterSomnium> so
[10:15] <PeterSomnium> that could be the problem
[10:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> all those settings are changed by dhclient
[10:15] <Tallia1Kubuntu> once the contract is signed
[10:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[10:16] <Tallia1Kubuntu> try to take a look at this
[10:17] <PeterSomnium> hmm yeah
[10:17] <PeterSomnium> ur right
[10:17] <PeterSomnium> disconnected?
[10:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[10:18] <PeterSomnium> Tallia1Kubuntu: well, I did dhclient wlan0 :P
[10:18] <PeterSomnium> you saw the reaction
[10:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i saw
[10:18] <Tallia1Kubuntu> you got connected to the wifi?
[10:18] <PeterSomnium> and now I disconnected the wlan0
[10:18] <PeterSomnium> and eth0 works again
[10:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i never tried to use both connections at the same time
[10:19] <PeterSomnium> hmm
[10:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> usually when i have a wired one i don't want the wireless
[10:19] <Tallia1Kubuntu> :P
[10:19] <PeterSomnium> I know
[10:20] <PeterSomnium> here at home i have wired
[10:20] <PeterSomnium> but on school we dont
[10:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> when you are at school just do what you did 2 minutes ago
[10:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it should work
[10:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> this is what i do
[10:20] <PeterSomnium> hmmm, now they both have an ip, and are in the same range and broadcast
[10:20] <PeterSomnium> lemme pull the cable
[10:21] <PeterSomnium> let's see if it works :P
[10:22] <PeterSomnium> am I still hearable? :P
[10:22] <PeterSomnium> that didnt work
[10:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> muah
[10:22] <cku> hi all
[10:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i can't help you more than this.. here my knowledge stops
[10:22] <PeterSomnium> ok
[10:22] <PeterSomnium> well actually
[10:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> try to take a look at the page i gave you
[10:22] <cku> is anyone familiar with music production programs here?
[10:22] <PeterSomnium> this was as far as my own knowledge went :P
[10:22] <PeterSomnium> page?
[10:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i am starting using audacity
[10:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i started yesterday a electroacustic music class
[10:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[10:23] <cku> ok the thing is I'm used to Sony's Vegas
[10:23] <cku> I'm looking for something similar in effect
[10:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ? i don't know it
[10:23] <cku> maybe with a bit mor
[10:24] <PeterSomnium> anyway Tallia1Kubuntu , thanks for giving me some time
[10:24] <cku> well, u'd find that Nuendo, or Cakewalk similar to it
[10:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> you're welcome
[10:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> are those midi sequencer?
[10:27] <cku> they can be
[10:27] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i found out this page
[10:27] <cku> they're acutally multi track recording/music production software
[10:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> mhh
[10:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> so that's what i am searching for
[10:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> are they all for linux?
[10:28] <cku> I've tried to install rosegarden and ardour but it's a pain in the ass
[10:28] <cku> no they're windows
[10:28] <cku> I'm a recent convert
[10:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> audacity is exactly a multitrack sequencer
[10:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> eheh
[10:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> my professor suggested audacity
[10:28] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i tried it
[10:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and now i am compiling the newest version since i need the spectruc analyzer :D
[10:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> my prof uses protools, but it's expensive and it works only in win/mac
[10:29] <Tallia1Kubuntu> try it..
[10:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it's in ubuntu repositories, at least the first version
[10:30] <Tallia1Kubuntu> or better, not the last version :D
[10:30] <cku> on it
[10:30] <cku> I guess ur in Kubuntu
[10:30] <hawking> what's the version of kde in kubuntu 5.10?
[10:30] <callie> hmmmmmmm
[10:30] <sampan> 3.4.3
[10:31] <callie> so tempted to remove windows just to free up hd space
[10:31] <sampan> hawking ... but it's easy to upgrade to 3.5
[10:31] <jjesse> hawking: and painless :)
[10:31] <sampan> (see the channel topic)
[10:31] <hawking> 3.5 caused a bug in my comp
[10:31] <hawking> so I had to downgrade
[10:31] <hawking> :/
[10:31] <hawking> I am fine with 3.4.3
[10:32] <nlindblad> me too
[10:32] <sampan> hawking  yeah, i haven't upgraded either.  3.4.3 works well enough that the slight improvement isn't worth the hassle (for me)  :)
[10:32] <hawking> and it's wise to wait for at least one-two months after a new release
[10:32] <Tallia1Kubuntu> cku: sure :D
[10:33] <cku> damn
[10:33] <cku> this is kinda bland
[10:33] <cku> know of any others?>
[10:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> bland?
[10:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> not for linux..
[10:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i am searching too :)
[10:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what about ardour?
[10:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what do you mean by pain in the ass
[10:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[10:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> z
[10:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i can't compile it.. (audacity..) i have an error, one of those i can't understand
[10:36] <cku> the installation
[10:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see
[10:38] <PeterSomnium> Tallia1Kubuntu:  it works ^^
[10:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> PeterSomnium: good to hear :D
[10:38] <PeterSomnium> I just did who you said
[10:38] <cku> ardour works for you?
[10:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> PeterSomnium: what have you changed?
[10:38] <PeterSomnium> so I pulled out the cable
[10:38] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i didn't tried it
[10:38] <PeterSomnium> and did ifconfig wlan0 up
[10:38] <PeterSomnium> and after that dhclient wlan0
[10:39] <PeterSomnium> and it works ^^
[10:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> eheh
[10:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i told you, that's exactly what i do :)
[10:39] <PeterSomnium> uhuh
[10:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> happy to hear that works for yo
[10:39] <PeterSomnium> thanks ^^
[10:39] <Tallia1Kubuntu> cku: what's your problem with ardour?
[10:40] <PeterSomnium> robotgeek: just to let you know too, it works fine now, thanks to Tallia1Kubuntu
[10:40] <robotgeek> PeterSomnium, what did you do?
[10:40] <cku> been having problems with the installation
[10:40] <robotgeek> i read it, no problems
[10:40] <PeterSomnium> uhuh
[10:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> cku: what kind of problems?
[10:40] <Psi-Jack> Ahhh, much better, SKype isn't eating my sound card up. this time.
[10:40] <PeterSomnium> it was just the fact that they were two interfaces running next to each other
[10:41] <robotgeek> PeterSomnium, okay. cool
[10:41] <PeterSomnium> so thanks for your help all
[10:42] <cku> I'm not familiar with source code builds in a nutshell
[10:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i see
[10:42] <slow-motion> re
[10:42] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i hape problems too sometimes
[10:43] <cku> do I need additional downloads along with the sourcecode?
[10:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes, sometimes you need to download some libraries
[10:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> in order to compile
[10:45] <cku> so where do I save these libraries?
[10:46] <_DOddo> i have a corny question. In bash, and when i run programs, is there a way to start them minimized
[10:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> if you use synaptics packages are automatically downloaded and "saved"
[10:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sometimes, you have to try a lots
[10:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i'd like to try to install that too
[10:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> cku: can you get my messages?
[10:54] <Psi-Jack> Excelent.. Skype works even better in Linux than it did even under Windows. Now that it's not eating the sound card up. :)
[10:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Psi-Jack: mhh, not so sure..
[10:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Psi-Jack: sometimes it sucks.. at least for me
[10:55] <Psi-Jack> Tallia1Kubuntu: Why do you say that?
[10:55] <Psi-Jack> You use Skype In/Out, or just regular PC to PC Skype?
[10:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i had problems in the past with audio, sometimes after a call, it corrupts the linux audio system
[10:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and i have to restart the audio server
[10:55] <Psi-Jack> Tallia1Kubuntu: Yeah. Mine did that too, initially.
[10:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i use skype, skype in and skype out
[10:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what did you changed?
[10:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it still happens to me sometimes
[10:56] <Psi-Jack> Tallia1Kubuntu: I changed the arts-server settings a bit.
[10:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[10:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> arts?
[10:56] <Psi-Jack> One sec.
[10:56] <Tallia1Kubuntu> sure
[10:56] <Psi-Jack> Yea. arts, the KDE audio system.
[10:57] <m_tadeu> hi...how do i setup an ftp server?
[10:57] <Psi-Jack> One, I don't use the network audio server part of arts.
[10:57] <Psi-Jack> And in the Hardware tab, I specifically set it to use ALSA, not auto, Full Duplex, custom sampling rate at 44100, and 16bit.
[10:58] <john-l> Ok, I have an embarassingly simple question.  I've just installed Ubuntu 5.10, and now I want to install Kubuntu.  The docs say to install the `kubuntu-desktop` metapackage using Synaptic, but that package name isn't there.  What am I missing?
[10:59] <Psi-Jack> Tallia1Kubuntu: So far, I've made about 4-7 calls to/from my two Skype accounts, without any problem. Prior to that, I called echo123 several times, to make sure it was working.
[10:59] <AoP> You need to edit a file then run sudo apt-get update I think, not sure on the file though sorry =(
[11:00] <Psi-Jack> Anyone here use an emu10k1 soundcard, such as the SB PCI 512?
[11:00] <john-l> Hm.  Is that procedure described anywhere?  It isn't mentioned in the docs that I've read...
[11:00] <callie> whats the safest/neatest way to remove windows from this system?
[11:01] <Psi-Jack> callie: Safest? Remove the paritions, if you have nothing important on it anymore.
[11:01] <callie> Psi-Jack: there is some info i want to keep and its large files
[11:01] <robotgeek> john-l, can you open up a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[11:01] <Psi-Jack> callie: Then back them up.
[11:02] <callie> large files
[11:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> Psi-Jack: echo123?
[11:02] <callie> talking gigs here
[11:02] <Psi-Jack> Tallia1Kubuntu: Yeah, Skype's echo service.
[11:02] <Psi-Jack> callie: Well, do you have a DVD burner?
[11:02] <callie> nope
[11:02] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ooo
[11:02] <Psi-Jack> Ahh, well.
[11:03] <callie> plus there's the time involved
[11:03] <john-l> robotgeek: It says that it can't find the package.
[11:04] <callie> is there not some way to remove the files and then update grub?
[11:04] <robotgeek> john-l, can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin (see topic)
[11:05] <Psi-Jack> callie: What version of Windows we talking here?
[11:05] <callie> Psi-Jack: win2k
[11:05] <Psi-Jack> One thing you'll need to do, is clear the MBR of NTLDR.
[11:06] <john-l> robotgeek: Don't think I need to; the only line uncommented is for the cdrom.
[11:06] <callie> Psi-Jack: i dont use NTLDR i use grub
[11:06] <robotgeek> john-l, ah okay. enable the internet repositories, comment out cd repo and reload and install :)
[11:06] <Psi-Jack> callie: You don't use NTLDR at all, not even to load Windows itself?
[11:07] <callie> i thought ntldr was a boot manager like grub?
[11:07] <john-l> Ok; I'm trying to make sure the [K] ubuntu online documentation is up-to-date, though.  Is there something in the wiki that needs to be changed/clarified, or did I just miss some docs?
[11:07] <Psi-Jack> It is. It resides in the MBR level.
[11:08] <robotgeek> john-l, i thought that internet repos are enabled by default, i am not sure here.
[11:08] <Psi-Jack> Grub can be installed in the MBR, or a bootable partition. So technically, you could have Grub, and NTLDR, both still in use.
[11:08] <callie> but installing grub would overwrite it yeah?
[11:08] <john-l> Well, I'm looking at a default (Ubuntu) install, and that's what I've got.
[11:09] <robotgeek> john-l, i'll try to confirm later, i should be reinstalling soon
[11:10] <Psi-Jack> callie: Maybe. Depends on where grub was installed. I'm not very much help with that regarding making sure NTLDR is still being used or not, by Windows.
[11:10] <john-l> I installed entirely without setting up the network; might that have impacted the sources list?
[11:10] <callie> i installed it to the mbr Psi-Jack, i always do
[11:11] <robotgeek> john-l, i'm thinking maybe, but i am not sure. i never noticed it before
[11:12] <Psi-Jack> callie: Well, then it probably took out the NTLDR, if that's the case, then yes, technically to cleanly remove Windows by either deleting the files you don't want, or moving the files you DO want to the local Linux filesystem somewhere, deleting/recreating the partition Windows was on to a Linux native or so, and moving them back, if you felt the need to do so.
[11:13] <charwood> When I open my System Settings and go to "Printers", the computer does something (presumably with CUPS) for about 10 minutes and then tells me that it couldn't find the CUPS server.
[11:13] <charwood> Does kubuntu not come with CUPS printing support?  what packages to I need?
[11:15] <Psi-Jack> Man, this is fricken sweet.
[11:15] <Psi-Jack> charwood: Actually, yes it does.
[11:15] <Psi-Jack> I had to manually rip my printer drivers into it, to get it to work, but I managed to do it.
[11:16] <drunkpikachu> Can anyone be kind enough to tell me what the KDE equivalent of Windows hardware manager is and where I can find it?
[11:17] <charwood> When I access the printers panel and click the add printers button, it asks me to select a protocol (SMB, local, CUPS, etc...).  They are all grayed out so I am left with 'cancel'.
[11:18] <Psi-Jack> drunkpikachu: Umm. Last I checked, course this was several years ago, hardware was still managed by Linux itself, nothing to do with X. So, if kDE has something for it, it's custom made by Kubuntu, or someone else.
[11:20] <drunkpikachu> Ok, well how about hardware management in general? I'm trying to activate my ethernet card on my laptop and don't have the option to mess with anything (nor the button to log me into root)
[11:20] <charwood> drunkpikachu: The kde control center has some similar tings.
[11:21] <Psi-Jack> drunkpikachu: CTRL+ALT+F1 will swithc you to a console, CTRL+ALT+F7 will get you back to X.
[11:21] <charwood> drunkpikachu: You'll need to be root for sure.  KDE Button->System Settings->Network Settings lets you activate and set up your network though.
[11:23] <drunkpikachu> oh..... crap. I'm in deep if the pass I thought I put for root is not working.
[11:23] <charwood> drunkpikachu: That's correct.  (-8
[11:24] <drunkpikachu> oh well, time for a reinstall. I can just delete my new linux partition with any live cd (like the windows installer) correct?
[11:24] <charwood> Yes, although the kubuntu (and any linux installer I've seen will allow you to do this at install time)
[11:25] <drunkpikachu> alright then. I knew the easy install was too good to be true :(
[11:27] <kieran> hello
[11:28] <drunkpikachu> hi
[11:28] <Al> hi
[11:28] <kieran> was wondering if anyone knew how to make resolv.conf save changes
[11:28] <kieran> i do sudo
[11:28] <kieran> it wont save it
[11:28] <kieran> goes back to default
[11:28] <kieran> i tried logging in as root
[11:28] <kieran> and same thing happens
[11:29] <kieran> is something overriding it?
[11:29] <drunkpikachu> I have no idea, but if you try a diff editor like nano I know it asks to save on exit
[11:30] <Al> nano with sudo?
[11:30] <drunkpikachu> that's what I used to edit the xorg.conf
[11:32] <hawking> I want to remove a corrupt package but neither apt-get nor aptitude can remove it what should i do?
[11:32] <_hara> hi. anyone know of a tutorial on making .deb packages from sources?
[11:33] <robotgeek> _hara, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Developerresources
[11:33] <robotgeek> _hara, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources
[11:35] <_hara> ahh, the almighty wiki. thanks robotgeek !
[11:35] <robotgeek> _hara, no problem
[11:36] <dgold> can anyone advise on kde/nvidia problems - fresh breezy install, the screen resolution looks odd - icon titles get 'spackled' on hilite & task-bar items seems to be wrong resolution
[11:36] <robotgeek> _hara, unless you are going to distribute anythin, just use checkinstall
[11:37] <_hara> robotgeek: yes i know of checkinstall
[11:37] <robotgeek> _hara, oh okay. refer to that page to build debs the right/debian way :)
[11:38] <_hara> robotgeek: yep, i will. thanks again!
[11:46] <nalioth> robotgeek: the right way?
[11:46] <robotgeek> i.e, the debian way
[11:47] <Deslux> Somme question: why can i remove modules like bluetooth that are loaded at the begining of boot?
[11:47] <Deslux> (not the /etc/modules ones)
[11:50] <neko> does anyone know which package I should install to get gdb (for generating backtraces)?
[11:51] <bimberi> neko: gdb
[11:52] <neko> gdb isn't in the kubuntu repositories?
[11:53] <zazza> hi all
[11:53] <bimberi> neko: it's in main - do you have it enabled?
[11:54] <Psi-Jack> Okay, how do I configure X to be 1280x1024, instead of whatever resolution it's at now?
[11:54] <apokryphos> !resolution
[11:54] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:54] <neko> bimberi: yes
[11:54] <Psi-Jack> Thank ya.
[11:57] <Deslux> nobody knows how to remove some kernel modules?
[11:57] <Deslux> rmod just remove for the current session
[12:00] <Psi-Jack> BRB
[12:00] <bimberi> neko: put your source.list on the pastebin
[12:01] <slow-motion> n8
[12:01] <bimberi> Deslux: try adding unwanted modules to /etc/hotplug/blacklist