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| fabbione | hi zul | 04:44 |
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| fabbione | BenC: ping? | 04:47 |
| BenC | hey | 04:47 |
| fabbione | yo | 04:47 |
| BenC | responding to pitti now | 04:47 |
| fabbione | BenC: yes i saw the mail and answered | 04:48 |
| fabbione | i am going to take off for a week | 04:48 |
| fabbione | so i can't do it | 04:48 |
| BenC | ok | 04:48 |
| BenC | dapper is pretty squared away except for one | 04:49 |
| fabbione | yeah | 04:50 |
| fabbione | but it's a good idea to always double check | 04:50 |
| fabbione | it won't the be first time that something pass unseen | 04:50 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Intel 3945 drivers should be appearing at some point, but probably not until end of Feb/beginning of March | 04:50 |
| fabbione | or that something that's supposed to be vulnerable is not | 04:51 |
| BenC | fabbione: I checked dapper source tree for the ones that are supposed to affect it, and the code is patched | 04:53 |
| BenC | also, the last one that affects hoary/warty may be irrelevant, since it only applies to numa configurations | 04:53 |
| fabbione | BenC: we still want the source to be patched tho | 04:54 |
| fabbione | we don't know if somebody is using our sources on NUMA | 04:54 |
| fabbione | even if i seriously doubt it | 04:54 |
| dilinger | BenC: so the dapper kernel is pretty much finalized? time for me to start playing around w/ it on machines for testing purposes? | 04:55 |
| BenC | dilinger: finalized isn't a good word | 04:56 |
| BenC | it's stable though | 04:56 |
| dilinger | ok | 04:56 |
| BenC | and you should have been testing it all along :) | 04:56 |
| dilinger | i'll give it a week ro two, then | 04:56 |
| dilinger | heh. well, the machines i have to test with, some i would rather not have to recover | 04:57 |
| BenC | fabbione: oh, I found out that the -server kernel crash is caused by alt-smp...if I disable that, it boots fine...trying to find the cause now | 04:57 |
| dilinger | like my laptop | 04:57 |
| fabbione | BenC: ah cool | 04:57 |
| BenC | so far no one has reported that dapper totally broke their system | 04:57 |
| BenC | dilinger: I suggest trying a livecd boot, and if that works, upgrade | 04:57 |
| dilinger | well, i was just going to try the kernel and a few other packages, w/ a breezy system | 04:58 |
| dilinger | i don't really want to upgrade completely to dapper | 04:58 |
| dilinger | not until i become a developer and can actually fix broken stuff.. filing bugs that sit in the BTS isn't all that fun | 04:59 |
| fabbione | dilinger: you will pull in too much | 05:00 |
| fabbione | better you become a developer and fast :) | 05:00 |
| dilinger | i have a server running breezy w/ a dapper rc(4?) kernel, plus dapper udev | 05:00 |
| BenC | fabbione: oh, and I found out that alt-smp wasn't completely enabled on x86_64 | 05:06 |
| fabbione | BenC: is that why my k8 dies on heavy load? | 05:07 |
| BenC | the lock's were getting nop'd, but the complex smp (spin_lock's) weren't getting nop'd | 05:07 |
| BenC | is it up and smp? | 05:07 |
| BenC | up or smp I mean | 05:07 |
| fabbione | it's up, but it just slows down hell of a lot | 05:07 |
| fabbione | it takes a bit and resurrect again | 05:08 |
| fabbione | swap usage is impressive | 05:08 |
| BenC | could be | 05:08 |
| fabbione | and i am blaming the kernel for that | 05:08 |
| fabbione | since .12 works fine :) | 05:08 |
| BenC | you would :P | 05:08 |
| fabbione | ahhah | 05:08 |
| fabbione | BenC: we might be soon able to blame gnome :) | 05:08 |
| fabbione | http://blogs.gnome.org/view/cneumair/2006/01/10/0 | 05:09 |
| fabbione | there | 05:09 |
| fabbione | see | 05:09 |
| fabbione | data loss? i blame gnome! | 05:09 |
| fabbione | reiserfs4 not working? i blame gnome! | 05:09 |
| fabbione | WE CAN BLAME GNOME! | 05:09 |
| fabbione | that's the best part :P | 05:09 |
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| crimsun | BenC: any particular reason we don't enable CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND? | 05:33 |
| mjg59 | crimsun: Because we don't use it anywhere | 05:33 |
| crimsun | mjg59: ok, I've just read a hint that the ehci-hcd errors post-resume (after a suspend) may be tied to it | 05:34 |
| mjg59 | crimsun: Right now we unload and reload the modules | 05:35 |
| crimsun | mjg59: it only rears its head post-resume after a suspend, though | 05:35 |
| crimsun | post-resume after a hibernate doesn't exhibit the problem at all | 05:36 |
| crimsun | (mm, post/after redundancy) | 05:36 |
| crimsun | will debug further after lecture | 05:37 |
| BenC | fabbione: I think I have the -server crash fixed, testing in a minute | 05:39 |
| fabbione | BenC: cool! | 05:39 |
| fabbione | BenC: i need to push some cluster changes tomorrow. i would love to have them with the next kernel | 05:39 |
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| zul | heylo | 05:52 |
| fabbione | hey zul | 05:53 |
| zul | hey fabbione how is it going? | 05:55 |
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| fabbione | zul: as usual | 05:55 |
| zul | fun fun | 05:56 |
| BenC | fabbione: -server crash is fixed | 05:56 |
| fabbione | BenC: rocking | 05:56 |
| BenC | which may also fix crashes in amd64 and 686/k7 | 05:56 |
| fabbione | fabbione BenC: i need to push some cluster changes tomorrow. i would love to have them with the next kernel | 05:56 |
| fabbione | * BenC has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) | 05:56 |
| fabbione | not sure you got that | 05:56 |
| fabbione | -4 to conf call | 05:56 |
| BenC | ok, the sooner the better | 05:56 |
| BenC | I was ready to do a build/upload, but I can hold off till tomorrow | 05:57 |
| fabbione | tomorrow i can do it.. i am waiting them to commit to their CVS 3/4 of our patches | 05:57 |
| fabbione | so we can drop them | 05:57 |
| fabbione | specially there is a gfs fix we want in .15 due to some changes upstream | 05:57 |
| zul | BenC: did you have a look at my patches? | 05:59 |
| BenC | (conference call, brb) | 06:04 |
| zul | okie dokie | 06:05 |
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| Zomb | hi | 07:06 |
| Zomb | do recent linux-image packages still suggest lilo? | 07:06 |
| zul | grub is more commonly used | 07:08 |
| zul | and the default | 07:08 |
| infinity | (base)adconrad@cthulhu:~$ apt-cache show linux-image-2.6.15-11-686 | grep ^Suggests | 07:08 |
| infinity | Suggests: lilo (>= 19.1) | grub, fdutils, linux-doc-2.6.15 | linux-source-2.6.15 | 07:08 |
| infinity | Yes, they still suggest it, as they always have. | 07:09 |
| makx | well that can change :) | 07:17 |
| makx | once we don't loose *all* energy in firmware discussions | 07:17 |
| dilinger | this firmware thing is going to be a disaster... | 07:19 |
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| zul | hmmm..? | 07:20 |
| dilinger | zul: nothing.. | 07:20 |
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| makx | it is already a disaster dilinger | 07:42 |
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| tomukas | hi everyone, i have a wlan-problem with ipw2200 and syslog is saying: Radio Frequency Kill Switch is On, which means that it can't work at all... any ideas? | 08:37 |
| zul | so uh we have to use malone now? | 08:38 |
| mjg59 | tomukas: Is there a physical switch on your laptop? | 08:41 |
| tomukas | yes | 08:42 |
| tomukas | mjg59: there is one... and there is activity in syslog after having switched it | 08:43 |
| mjg59 | tomukas: Right. If it's in the correct position, then things should work | 08:46 |
| tomukas | mjg59: probably it's not... it seems that there is not yet a support for that wlan-device yet... but which command should this switch run? | 08:49 |
| zul | uh yes there is support for ipw2200 | 08:49 |
| mjg59 | The switch shouldn't run any command. It just disables or enables the radio. | 08:49 |
| tomukas | yes - but that doesnt work :-\ | 08:50 |
| tomukas | kthxbye, guys... have to reboot | 08:54 |
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