[12:03] bug day... oh exicitng. [12:03] baah [12:03] mmm [12:03] chinese buffet [12:03] good thing I have to be away 8:15-15:45 tomorrow :-P [12:04] (traveltime included) [12:04] do devs really hate bugday? [12:04] no [12:04] we loves it [12:04] we do? [12:04] sure [12:05] don't you love all those beagle bugs? [12:05] nope. [12:05] i like them even less when i dont have much chance of fixing [12:05] like evo-sharp not supporting eds 1.5 [12:06] it builds fine, it just explodes at runtime [12:06] haha there is a huge thread on mono on ubuntu-dev [12:07] funny [12:07] aren't bug days on thursdays? [12:08] why is there no man page for ulimit? [12:08] what was the flag to enable core dumps? [12:08] tseng: yes, why don't we have beagle in the desktop seed for dapper then? [12:08] support 0.1.4 for the next 3 years [12:09] yes brilliant [12:09] we wanted to build stuff with libbeagle [12:09] and leave the daemon in universe [12:09] hm [12:09] psusi: ulimit is a bash builtin I think [12:09] amazing questions in #mono [12:10] psusi: you'll find it with man bash === tseng suspends disbelief for a few moments === cblanquer [n=CarlosBl@84.77.141.119] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Kopete] [12:10] ohh [12:11] there we go... ulimit -c [12:11] I wonder if the debian mirror I'm using is only half-updated === cyberix [n=cyberix@hoas-fe36dd00-251.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:12] http://www.inari.fi/kunta/sosterv/itsehoito/31.unettomuus.gif [12:12] This is a brilliant picture [12:12] please don't randomly spam urls in channel [12:13] Well, Ubuntu is UNIX based, and I've started to feel a sosial relation to this channel. === ajmitch sighs [12:14] But I do admit that the image is not very important for universe to expand [12:15] https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/3768 [12:15] ajmitch: is this a 500 for you? [12:15] Error: Could not parse data returned by Malone: Connection to Malone bugtracker failed: The read operation timed out [12:15] ajmitch: ( i cant believe we are pretending to switch to malone again ) [12:15] I think it's the DB server that's down [12:15] i give it a week [12:16] a week, what sort of project is this! [12:16] ETA was 'at least 5-10 minutes' about 15 minutes ago [12:16] mr-russ: excuse me? [12:17] you get eta's cool. === mr-russ just responding to tseng's comment. [12:17] elmo is on it :-) [12:18] am I the only one that has problem getting on the ubuntu wiki? [12:18] responses like 'what sort of project is this?' can really be taken the wrong way [12:18] thierry_: see above [12:18] thierry_: the DB server is down [12:18] hello motus :) === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:20] hi raphink [12:20] hi LaserJock [12:20] :) [12:21] how are you doing ? [12:22] good, busy === Nafallo finds himself working on main-packages again ;-) [12:23] raphink: I am trying to get my first package into Debian and I have been working on some MOTUScience stuff and I need to work on the Ubuntu Packaging Guide a bit too [12:23] woohoo! xserver-xorg-input-synaptics builds on amd64 :-) [12:23] ok [12:24] I'll think I'll go to bed pretty soon :) [12:24] full day ;) === McFergus [n=frg@85-18-14-13.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === womble [n=mpalmer@sponge.solutionsfirst.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch_ [i=ajmitch@port162-39.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:31] joy [12:32] lp is back [12:33] <\sh> lifeless: what is changed? [12:34] \sh: the database lives again ;-) [12:34] <\sh> oh a crash? [12:35] hardware issue - rectified. [12:35] kewl :-) [12:36] sweet LP works again === rikai [n=gtk2@pool-70-105-255-32.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.38.43] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-007-034.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Kopete] [12:46] hrm... the bins in this package are being built with -g, and I set the -k flag to dh_strip, but the package still doesn't contain the debug symbol files... is there another step needed to get them to be included? [12:48] psusi: Use --dbg-package instead. Much easier. [12:49] morning womble [12:49] Hey ajmitch_ [12:49] womble: how do you use that? don't you have to specify another binary target in the control file and give the name of that target to that option? [12:49] sounded like -k would just add the symbol files to the main package when installed [12:49] psusi: See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=315240 for an example of a patch to add a -dbg package [12:49] Debian bug 315240: "build a -dbg package" Package: libneon24, Version: 0.24.7.dfsg-2., Severity: wishlist, Maintainer: Laszlo Boszormenyi http://bugs.debian.org/315240 [12:50] ty [12:50] Holy crap, I can't believe other people are using that bug as an example now [12:50] psusi: Is -k not putting the symbols in /usr/lib/debug/wherever? [12:52] looks like a very nice example [12:52] and no, they aren't appearing in the package when I build it with pbuilder and dpkg -c it [12:53] psusi: fakeroot debian/rules binary in your source tree, and have a look in debian/$PKG/usr/lib/debug [12:53] and debian/tmp/usr/lib/debug [12:53] It's entirely possible that dh_strip is making the symbol files, but your build process isn't including the files in the final built package [12:54] womble: that's what I'm thinking... what else needs to be in the build process to include them in the built package? [12:54] a dh_install or dh_movefiles to make sure they end up in debian/$PKG/usr/lib/debug/foo/bar/baz [12:54] This is the reason why we all use --dbg-package === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:55] any special flags to those needed to get them to move the debug syms? [12:55] As the manpage says about -k: "--dbg-package is [12:55] easier to use than this option, but this option is more flexible." === psusi is converting to --dbg-package now [12:59] isn't sig #32 used for posix aio? [01:10] womble: damnit... the symbols aren't in the -dbg package either [01:10] psusi: Where are they? stuck in debian/tmp somewhere? [01:11] I dunno... I usually build with pbuilder... tyring the debian/rules binary ow [01:11] now === raphink [n=raphink@raphink.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:14] I got hooked on pbuilder for a while, and had lots of the same sorts of problems -- "where the hell are my files?" so I've re-learnt the value of debian/rules binary (or debian/rules install in some cases, even) [01:14] Still rebuild using pbuilder for uploads, though. [01:14] And build-dep spec testing [01:16] aye === Kyral stretches [01:18] whee...my first CDBS package [01:19] reverse compatibility with ifup/ifdown would have been a nice feature [01:19] :s [01:20] is there an easy way to create a temp file or other area you can store output in a bash script? I've got a rather verbose script I'd like to modify so it stores teh output and discards it if no errors happened [01:20] but dump it to stdout if something goes wrong === raphink [n=raphink@raphink.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:22] womble: no debug syms in debian/$pkg [01:23] psusi: anything laying around in debian/tmp/usr/lib/debug? [01:23] there is no debian/tmp [01:23] or in debian/$pkg-dbg? [01:23] Perhaps something is stripping your binaries before dh_strip gets at them? [01:24] unless it's some other dh_ I don't see what... all the gcc lines have the -g [01:24] You can set CFLAGS=-g, but if the Makefile has a strip target in it's install or something, you're still toast [01:25] how about dh_clean? [01:26] don't see any strip commands [01:26] psusi: dh_clean isn't related [01:26] last g++ -o -g is followed by the dh_ stuff [01:27] Comment out the dh_strip call in rules, rerun debian/rules binary, and see if the binary in the final location is stripped or not with file [01:27] ok [01:28] does dh_installdirs need any arguments for the syms? [01:29] son of a bitch... they are stripped [01:29] unless... it didn't appear to rebuild them when I re ran rules binary [01:29] just did the dh stuff over [01:30] hmm.... [01:30] which section... [01:30] eh? [01:30] this [01:30] http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1235 === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:34] psusi: You didn't run debian/rules clean before rebuilding? [01:34] no.. just did that... wish I could just rebuild the binaries though... the objects all had syms [01:34] waiting for the full rebuild now [01:35] where exactly does dh_strip put the symbols? is another step required to put them in the installed dir? === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-007-034.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-75-236.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun [i=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Czessi_away [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-006-187.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:44] whats the package for pyGTK 2.6? [01:45] I don't know of one for 2.6, but there's python2.4-gtk2, which is for 2.8.2 [01:45] yah [01:45] I meant >= 2.6 === Kyral <3 CDBS [01:46] ...*STAB!& [01:46] I put python2.4-gtk as a build dep are you blind...grr [01:47] its failing because it says it needs PyGTK 2.6 [01:47] or greater [01:48] you b-d on the -dev, package. [01:48] python-gtk2-dev [01:48] crimsun: is that really needed? [01:49] I don't know what prog he's trying, so I don't know :) [01:49] I guess it could have the .pc file.. [01:50] /usr/lib/pkgconfig/pygtk-2.0.pc [01:50] might be the only thing worth using [01:51] hm, probably not [01:51] wait...in Depends if its Python don't I need to include soething else? [01:51] that looks like something for linking with pygtk headers [01:51] Kyral: depends on how badly you're mangling this [01:51] I'm not [01:52] sure [01:52] I just hit it with dh_make as cdbs and used the python-distutils thing === ealden [n=ealden@ipdial-189-114.tri-isys.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:54] BTW its this [01:54] http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1235 [01:57] Kyral: I wonder how you pipe commands with such. [01:58] huh? [01:59] ls | grep `echo music` [01:59] such what? [02:00] How do you tell everygui to do that [02:00] :-) [02:00] I dunno [02:00] I can't even get the damn thing to build [02:00] Oh [02:00] Today is the first I saw of it lol [02:00] But the idea is good [02:00] I loaded my Google Home with the GnomeFiles.org RSS feed and it looked interesting [02:01] I'm wondering why it doesn't like me [02:01] Enought preconfiguration for commands and it could be really usefull [02:01] yah [02:03] if it would build... === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] *Stab* [02:10] should I just pastebin the control file? [02:12] or you could get it working ;) [02:12] I would if I knew how [02:12] I have the right deps [02:12] that I can see === Czessi_away [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-006-187.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Kopete] === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Notoy [n=NpI@200.75.134.106] has joined #ubuntu-motu === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@p5487F81A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === psusi [n=phreak@54.161.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === punkrockguy318 [n=lukas@pcp02403042pcs.brdgtn01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === punkrockguy318 [n=lukas@pcp02403042pcs.brdgtn01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.228.156] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:16] what is the package for X11 headers files ? [03:21] anything more specific? [03:21] there are a slew of them... [03:22] (e.g., x11proto*) [03:28] crimsun : well that's what the speeX apps says it's needed... http://www.gnu.org/software/speedx/speedx.html [03:29] speedX* [03:30] anyone packaging gnash? [03:30] hub: does it make sense to package gnash? [03:30] according to their website it is still in development [03:31] does it make sense to not package it? [03:31] it certainly doesn't make any sense for Dapper. [03:31] Perhaps feasible for Dapper+1, though. [03:31] I don't think it is ready to be packaged [03:32] but I was just asking [03:32] because dholbach bet me for two packages recently [03:32] so I was wondering if I should [03:32] hub: in my opinion, I would say no [03:32] but that is my opinion [03:33] (and I've already stated my stance) === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:34] <\sh> hey zakame === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.38.43] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:35] if a app is free but not opensource, is it packageable? [03:35] generally, no. [03:35] k [03:36] and if it's not open-source it really isn't DFSG-free at all, which precludes it being in universe at all. [03:38] k [03:39] gaah, non-free === ealden [n=ealden@ipdial-189-64.tri-isys.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:46] multiverse? [03:48] hm I do believe we try to minimize uploads to multiverse, right? [03:48] it might be able to go into multiverse depending on the licensing. [03:50] ah [03:52] thierry_: what do you mean free but not open source? [03:52] thats not possible [03:52] if its free by definition it has to be open source [03:52] poningru : free as in free beer [03:52] oh [03:52] OH [03:53] my mistake === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-23.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:54] <\sh> zakame: what about njam...there is one guy who wanted to package it [03:55] \sh : it's already in Debian's NEW queue [03:56] <\sh> zakame: i didn't see it in incoming :) [03:56] crimsun : Can I package if the compilation is only made with gcc and a .c file [03:57] \sh : http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html [03:57] thierry_: sure, you can package it for yourself. Whether it can be distributed in multiverse is another decision altogether. I will cite precedence, however, that more than likely it's acceptable: see eagle. [03:57] thierry_: it really depends on the license. [03:57] <\sh> zakame: oh well..not build right now..do you actually know if he took our package? [03:58] \sh : if nothing happens by next week I'll ping him and ask politely ;) [03:58] \sh: since you've been uploading qt3... do you know what those "src/.moc/debug-shared-mt/*.moc" files in qt3's .diff.gz are for? [03:59] <\sh> minghua: yes...shit from me....I'm cleaning it up somehow... [03:59] bbl [04:00] zakame: any words on the octave2.1 sync? maybe time to ask again? ;-) [04:00] crap, I missed zakame [04:00] minghua : none yet [04:00] minghua: I asked yesterday [04:00] \sh: thanks :-) I was just reading the diff (curious about the immodule patch) and found that out accidentally [04:01] gaah, elmo's gonna be mad [04:01] minghua: I presume it's in elmo's queue; otherwise I'll refresh when I send him my next batch of syncs [04:01] anyhow, bbl :) [04:01] 8 days til UVF. [04:02] crimsun: thanks, I hope one inquiry per week won't make elmo mad :-) === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === martinex [n=Marcin@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:07] hello - anyone? === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:09] martinex: hi [04:10] crimsun, hi... I got a problem [04:10] crimsun, and sorry to bother 'cause it should be #ubuntu thing... [04:10] crimsun, but... I just would like to ask if is there any known issue with new dapper kernel? [04:10] crimsun, and/or bind/dns libraries? [04:11] <\sh> martinex: what exactly? every bug about kernel and/or bind you will find in our bugzilla [04:11] crimsun, I apt-getted my dapper yesterday and now it seems to work... but partially - it hangs on "detecting hardware" [04:12] and if I hit Ctrl-C than I can boot [04:12] but then network connections doesn't work [04:13] and I downloaded current install/live DVD from 20060110 [04:13] then installed fresh breezy... network started [04:14] but I just wanted to use breezy as a base for dapper [04:14] so I changed repositories in sources.list - and apt-get dist-upgrade - it installed packages mainly from current DVD [04:15] and few from network (kernel image) [04:15] then after reboot - kernel hangs on "detecting hardware" [04:20] propably related to #21752 [04:21] <\sh> ok...i'm off to bed... [04:28] looks like it - doing the same on the laptop [04:30] except if I wait it does proceed === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-23.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:35] hi minghua [04:36] Hi LaserJock [04:36] minghua: reboot worked for you? ;) [04:36] I sent a Request For Sponsor today [04:36] for sponsor for what? [04:37] ajmitch: yeah, :-) didn't know which upgrade asked for the reboot, though, perhaps udev [04:37] I'm trying to make sure that if any part of this shell script fails, it exits immediately rather than try to continue... I do set -e, but it looks like foo | bar is considered not to fail if foo fails but bar does not.. [04:37] minghua: latest udev/initramfs/kernel is causing issues for me & others, so it's an older kernel for me still [04:37] any way to fix that? [04:37] hub: I think some gtk frontend of gnuplot [04:37] ajmitch, so you can confirm that there is some kind of problem with new kernel? [04:37] martinex: no [04:38] hub: plotdrop [04:38] martinex: I cannot say that it is the kernel [04:38] ajmitch, btw - how long do you need to wait? [04:38] I waited less than 30 seconds [04:38] ajmitch: kernels after -9 seems to have been serving me well :-) [04:38] minghua: I suspect udev in this case anyway [04:38] ajmitch, and network interfaces are ok? [04:39] martinex: no [04:39] oh wait... it isn't becaus eof the pipe... hrm.. [04:39] this isn't really the place for it [04:39] since it's not universe [04:39] FOO=`foo`... foo fails and returns non zero... set -e is in effect, yet the script continues... [04:39] hrm... [04:39] ajmitch, so.. #ubuntu-devel? [04:39] psusi: probably because the assignment still works [04:39] ajmitch, but the `foo` fails? any failure should fail the whole script with set -e no? [04:39] ajmitch: yeah, my feeling is that udev is more error prone, too. although I've never digged deep, if it doesn't boot, I go back to the old kernel :-P [04:40] psusi: I would have thought so, but probably not [04:40] psusi: test with FOO=`/bin/false` [04:41] ohh my... it seems that `foo` was returning 0.. even though it failed... hrm... yet another patch for pktsetup it seems [04:41] heh [04:41] bad program [04:41] ajmitch, anyway just please tell me - your laptop can boot if you will wait about 30 sec.. on "detecting hardware" and then everything is ok? ( are network interfaces up and running correctly?) [04:41] martinex: I said, no [04:42] ajmitch, heh then I got the same problem... [04:42] I can see that [04:42] ajmitch, although I waited about 4-5 minutes and nothing happens [04:43] ajmitch, I had to hit Ctrl-C to boot (but without network.. it doesn't make any sense) [04:43] hi LaserJock, ajmitch [04:43] ajmitch, anyway - thanks for info [04:43] off to bed [04:47] a simple reboot solves most of my problems after a kernel upgrade....except for blutetooth which hasn't worked since a couple upgrades back [04:48] hey bmonty [04:49] I'd *love* it it people on the forums used malone instead of just reporting bugs solely on the forums [04:49] ajmitch: I fear that is a symptom of how people are used to using the internet [04:50] sadly [04:50] they understand forums and not the bug tracking systems [04:50] yep [04:50] and they expect everyone else to see their feature requests, bug reports & general whining [04:50] it would be nice if there was a "Report a bug in this application..." option on the help menu [04:50] umm [04:50] there isn't? :) [04:51] the isn't on my dapper install [04:51] there should be for apps built with the launchpad integration [04:51] hi bmonty [04:52] hey LaserJock [04:52] the 'how to file bugs' topic on the forums is amazingly complex [04:52] including rebuilding the packages with debugging symbols [04:52] and using gdb [04:53] yeah getting a non-devel type to rebuild a package with debug symbols is realistic :) [04:53] I haven't looked at the forums in a long time [04:54] I do when I'm feeling particularly masochistic [04:54] though I noticed that typing "ubuntu" in google will almost always get you a forum link on the first page [04:55] the forums are incredibly popular [04:55] and full of lots of bad info at times [04:56] the forums are not run by canonical, right? [04:57] no, they're not [04:57] they are 'official' though [04:58] irc is definately not as sexy as the forums though :) [04:59] no, it's not [05:00] ok, the "Get help online..." option links to launchpad (I tried from xchat), but it definately isn't what I would call user friendly === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp04197965pcs.crosky01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:04] oh well...time for bed, good night everyone [05:09] what app would I use to see what ports are open on a remote computer? [05:09] nmap? [05:11] LaserJock: nmap definitely. Worls on i386 - amd64 version seems flakey [05:11] k, I'll try that. It seems that every time I try to do something my university network has the ports blocked [05:11] s/Worls/Works [05:11] but ehh [05:11] be careful lol [05:11] so I wan't to know which ones are and which ones aren't [05:11] LaserJock: nmapfe for graphical. BTW - We can detect you scanning with it [05:12] hmm, we maybe I could just talk to our admin and see if he can tell me [05:12] LaserJock: I use it for work :) so I'm familiar with it [05:13] LaserJock: when I get back soon, feel free to ask me questions about it - like how to be stealthy about it [05:13] be back soon [05:13] well, right now I just want to be able to download a .torrent [05:13] it used to work but now it looks like it is blocked [05:14] a lot of colleges block Torrents [05:14] Most use an adaptive thing [05:14] believe me I know [05:17] many universities use packeteer [05:17] ours was one of the first, unfortunately [05:17] I hate that. I have to use a different port for chat, I can't get .torrents of linux isos [05:17] at least I can still ssh in [05:18] do you have an external shell? [05:18] I have ssh tunnels running everywhere. Yay for holes in the 'wall. === derekS [n=derekS@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:19] anyone ever have Irssi not backspacing when run in Screen? [05:19] what do you mean by external shell? [05:19] Kyral: I don't think so [05:19] hmm [05:19] its odd [05:20] if I run Irssi normally I can backspace [05:20] but if I run it in Screen I cannot [05:20] Kyral: sounds like a question for #ubuntu ;) [05:20] sounds like your termcap is screwed, echo $TERM [05:21] yah I was just field it here before I go into the maelstrom [05:21] as is probably safe [05:21] LaserJock: a host accessible via ssh outside your uni's firewall [05:21] Kyral: you could always ask on the forums [05:21] crimsun: its set to xterm [05:22] crimsun: don't know, I only have windows on the outside. I was able to do vnc over ssh though. === veganpops [n=Stan@sbthomas.dsl.xmission.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:24] re [05:24] LaserJock: use port 443, for your torrent [05:24] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/cernlib/+bug/6588 [05:24] Malone bug 6588: "PAW - Segmentation violation - Traceq lun = 0, level = 99" Fix req. for: gcc (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: Unconfirmed http://launchpad.net/bugs/6588 === Kyral hmms [05:25] LaserJock: Azureus works - and 1) it's not blocked on most networks, 2) its not throttled [05:25] crimsun: should my $TERM be xterm? [05:25] Following the guidance of the original Debian package maintainer I fixed a serious bug in the cernlib [universe] packages. [05:26] How do I go about getting this fix propagated into the official versions? [05:26] file a bug [05:26] attach debdiff? [05:26] I did, see above. [05:26] debdiff? [05:27] Kyral: xterm should suffice. Are you doing anything odd in screen? [05:27] crimsun: nope [05:27] I just do screen irssi [05:28] All of the fixed Breezy packages are in http://renfield.physics.utah.edu/cernlib.tar.bz2 (44 MB) [05:28] brb, gonna restart in screen [05:29] gcc-3.3? [05:29] ugh. doko ain't gonna like that. === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:29] Gak I see it [05:29] crimsun: I know, the bug affects all gcc up to and include 4.0.1 [05:29] somehow Backspace isn't sending ^H [05:29] while in screen [05:30] Kyral: hmm, it works here? [05:30] crimsun I set Backspace to send ^H in xterm prefs [05:30] Kyral: try ``TERM=vt100 screen irssi'' [05:30] crimsun: The original maintainer says it is fixed in 4.0.2?? [05:30] okay brb [05:31] gcc version 4.0.3 20060104 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.2-6ubuntu1) [05:31] root@mika:/# [05:31] Error: Could not parse XML returned by Ubuntu: not well-formed (invalid token): line 189, column 1 [05:31] not an issue in Dapper === Kyral [n=kyral@ubuntu/member/kyral] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:32] crimsun: True - it should be OK in Dapper. [05:32] nope [05:33] Kyral: as in "still doesn't work"? [05:33] crimsun: doesn't work [05:33]