[12:00] <tonyyarusso> GhostFreeman, Change all of the hoary references in your sources.lst to breezy, and then do apt-get dist-upgrade.
[12:00] <sharn> quick question: how do i get to root in a terminal?
[12:00] <Seveas> !root
[12:00] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:00] <tonyyarusso> palomer, Oh really?  So where was it?
[12:00] <yggdrasil_> hahah oh no
[12:00] <GhostFreeman> thanks
[12:01] <khermans> ython
[12:01] <sharn> quick question: how do i get to root in a terminal?
[12:01] <SuperSam> Hello
[12:01] <Jeeves_Moss> ubotu:  I'm assumeing you want to change your root password in Ubuntu?
[12:01] <SuperSam> sudo -s
[12:01] <ubotu> Jeeves_Moss: I give up, what is it?
[12:01] <navarone> I wonder what percentage of people asking about root accounts come back after messing up their systems...? <s>
[12:01] <Seveas> sharn, ubotu just told it
[12:01] <palomer> tonyyarusso: right beside akistan
[12:01] <sharn> ok
[12:01] <Seveas> sudo -s is BAD
[12:01] <SuperSam> Sharn "sudo -s"
[12:01] <Seveas> use sudo -i
[12:01] <Jeeves_Moss> sharn:  open a seprate chat and I'll tell you how to.
[12:01] <SuperSam> Sorry, I'm a newby, learnt that today
[12:02] <sharn> i got it frm supersam
[12:02] <Seveas> SuperSam, then forget it again, you need sudo -i :)
[12:02] <SuperSam> ok ty :P
[12:02] <tonyyarusso> Can Thunderbird have more than two e-mail addresses associated with a contact?
[12:02] <ReWind^> Would anyone happen to have any other good ideas how I can figure out what's causing ubuntu to brown-screen-with-mousepointer if I try the standard gnome login?
[12:03] <SuperSam> how do i chmod a whole directory including its folders and files inside?
[12:03] <Seveas> chmod -R
[12:03] <navarone> ReWind^, you mean brown screen with frozen mouse pointer?
[12:03] <SuperSam> Thanks
[12:03] <SuperSam> So it would be chmod -R 777 </dir>?
[12:03] <trappist> wtfno
[12:03] <tonyyarusso> SuperSam, Yeah.
[12:04] <SuperSam> Thankyou!
[12:04] <ReWind^> navarone: No, the mouse pointer moves, and I can manually start stuff in gnome if I do the emergency xterm logon, but I have to start everything including gnome-panel, x-window-manager manually
[12:04] <trappist> SuperSam: no!
[12:04] <trappist> SuperSam: wtf are you doing?
[12:04] <SuperSam> Huh?
[12:04] <dooglus> I imagine you can set all the virtual consoles to be blue at boot time by writing "set i in 1 2 3 4 5 6; do setterm -background blue >> /dev/tty$i; done" into /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[12:04] <SuperSam> oh its ok, im on a lan
[12:04] <trappist> SuperSam: that's basically never ok.
[12:04] <trappist> gah.
[12:04] <SuperSam> 777 was an example
[12:04] <dooglus> s/set/for/
[12:04] <trappist> aight then :)
[12:04] <SuperSam> :P
[12:04] <ReWind^> navarone: Tried a few of the common solutions, but I don't seem to have one of the common problems causing it, hehe:)
[12:04] <sorush20> /anyone here using dapper?
[12:05] <dooglus> sorush20: me, me
[12:05] <navarone> ReWind^, are you booting to graphical login at all?
[12:05] <sorush20> dooglus: are you confident with all its features?
[12:05] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, How are you liking it?
[12:05] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: it's groovy, man
[12:05] <erUSUL> i need to get a newer version of wireless-tools than the one shipped with breezy. i have googled to no avail. anyone knows how or whre to get it?
[12:05] <sorush20> dooglus: do you like
[12:05] <ReWind^> navarone: Yes, I'm in X-Chat atm, but I had to start it all with sudo -b from the emergency xterm
[12:05] <dooglus> sorush20: it has bugs, but what doesn't?
[12:05] <sorush20> dooglus: where are the bugs ?
[12:05] <navarone> ReWind^, sry...no idea...but will try a google...:)
[12:06] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Does it come with yellow and pink flower themes, man?
[12:06] <dooglus> sorush20: I use it on my day-to-day machine and it's fine.  lots of updates - like maybe 5 to 10 sets of updates per day - but nothing much breaks
[12:06] <tonyyarusso> erUSUL, What version do you have?
[12:06] <ReWind^> navarone: Thanks:) Already tried a few, but still having a spot of trouble with it, seems most people have GFX trouble causing this, but doesn't seem to be the case here
[12:06] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: it has a few new pretty grapics, but no flower power :)
[12:06] <navarone> ReWind^, you did standard install?
[12:06] <sorush20> sorush20: what version kopete do you have on it and more directly to the question what program do you use to vid chat?
[12:06] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, Oooh..
[12:06] <dooglus> sorush20: they come and go
[12:07] <sharn> Jeeves_Moss:  do you think if i reinstalled ubuntu in front of ms it would work?
[12:07] <ReWind^> navarone: I suspect it's my soundcard as changing any relating settings in what tools I can find makes X freeze, but I'm not really sure if that's just a reaction to something else not starting
[12:07] <ReWind^> navarone: Aye, standard AMD64 first, now on i386 standard
[12:07] <navarone> ReWind^, could be a problem with irq sharing...but I dunno
[12:07] <ReWind^> navarone: 5.10 'course:)
[12:07] <sharn> Jeeves_Moss: none of the stuff in the terminal works right
[12:07] <sun_> hi how do i upgrade to the new distro im on hoary
[12:07] <SuperSam> can somebody tell me the difference between sudo -s and sudo -i
[12:07] <dooglus> sorush20: I've kept breezy around on another partition, so if dapper fails I can still use ubuntu
[12:07] <tonyyarusso> erUSUL, I have 27+28pre8-1ubuntu4, which I believe to be up to date.
[12:08] <demantik> does the hoary live cd support mounting reiser partitions ?
[12:08] <dooglus> sorush20: but I've not had to boot into breezy for a couple of months now
[12:08] <ReWind^> navarone: Seems like everything pretty much is working except it just ignoresany startupscripts the normal login is supposed to run in gnome
[12:08] <yggdrasil_> is therea pager for gnome and thunderbird ?
[12:08] <SuperSam> Rupert`: Hi :)
[12:08] <Rupert`> hi
[12:08] <tonyyarusso> sun_, Change all of the hoary references in /etc/apt/sources.list to breezy, and then apt-get dist-upgrade.
[12:08] <sorush20> dooglus: do you have a set of repositories?
[12:08] <sharn> Jeeves_Moss:  do you think if i reinstalled ubuntu in front of ms it would work?
[12:08] <sorush20> dooglus: could you pastebin it?
[12:08] <tonyyarusso> Why does update-grub not recognize that my /boot is on a separate partition?
[12:08] <ReWind^> yggdrasil: Page you mean? www.getfirefox.com, there's a link to forums there somewhere
[12:09] <sorush20> sharn: are you a woman?
[12:09] <navarone> ReWind^, are you able to save files to your filesystem without errors ?
[12:09] <sharn> sorush20: why?
[12:09] <ReWind^> navarone: Very good question, I'll try, although I know I can write to xorg.conf at least
[12:09] <yggdrasil_> rewind no  i mean like an icon that sits on the bar and tells me i ve got mail
[12:09] <sun_> tonyyarusso is this a risky thing, or did it proceed smoothly? thanks for the info
[12:09] <dooglus> SuperSam: the difference is that -i gives you root's environment, which -s leaves you with your own.
[12:09] <sorush20> just good to see the more women using linux
[12:09] <yggdrasil_> uh panel
[12:09] <dooglus> SuperSam: run "echo $HOME" in both to see the difference
[12:09] <sharn> sorush: no i am not......
[12:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sorush20: Yeah... all both of them... ;)
[12:09] <navarone> ReWind^, okay...was wondering if maybe you had fs set as ro and not able to save settings or something weird like that
[12:09] <ReWind^> yggdrasil: Yes, Thunderbird will do that automatically if you set it to check for mail regularily. You can set it to check, but not download automatically.
[12:10] <dooglus> sorush20: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6924
[12:10] <yggdrasil_> right but i wanna little icon that tells me how many msgs
[12:10] <tonyyarusso> sun_, Should be just fine.  You probably want to make sure your hoary things are up to date beforehand though.  And if you've deleted the ubuntu-desktop metapackage you'll want to get it back before doing it.
[12:10] <yggdrasil_> rewind hang on
[12:10] <ReWind^> navarone: Aye, there was a tip about this about some wrong security descriptors in a dir from someone with a similar problem, but they'd upgraded so I figured it shouldn't be a problem for a clean install
[12:10] <sun_> tonyyarusso ok thanks
[12:10] <yggdrasil_> rewind like how gaim if you close it it statys running but puts the little dood on the panel ? i want that
[12:10] <tonyyarusso> sorush20, I tried to get a friend to try it, but she's not buying it just yet.
[12:11] <sun_> how to set the default printer?
[12:11] <ReWind^> yggdrasil: Aye, it should pop up a tooltip to let you know the amount of messys too I believe
[12:11] <Chris_Tucker> how does one add a user to the sudoers group via console?
[12:11] <sorush20> tonyyarusso: its just line selling Jesus or what ever..
[12:11] <sun_> chris_tucker visudo as root
[12:11] <ReWind^> yggdrasil: Don't think there's a standalone, will only work while Thunderbird is running tmk
[12:11] <navarone> ReWind^, do you have both amd64 and 386 kernels installed still? And do they both give you grief?
[12:11] <dooglus> Chris_Tucker: to be a sudoer all you need is to be in the right group
[12:11] <tonyyarusso> sun_, System > Administration > Printing, in Gnome.
[12:11] <dooglus> Chris_Tucker: don't visudo
[12:11] <yggdrasil_> do you guys like thunderbird or evolution ?
[12:12] <Chris_Tucker> dooglus, i mean to ADD another Sudoer
[12:12] <tonyyarusso> sorush20, I don't sell Jesus.  I give that away.
[12:12] <ReWind^> navarone: Just i386 now, I did a fresh format of my linux partitions when I migrated from AMD64 to i386
[12:12] <Knowerrors>  I have an external v92 modem I use to connect to dialup internet... since will use one line, I need a way for either call waiting to ring through and disconnect the internet, or have an option onscreen to switch over and put the internet on hold, is this possible in linux?
[12:12] <graft> ygg: i'm still using NMH
[12:12] <Chris_Tucker> hm
[12:12] <sun_> tonyyarusso is there a way w/o gnome?
[12:12] <Prozac> I need some help setting up pidentd. Cant really figure out how to set a userdefined reply
[12:12] <tonyyarusso> yggdrasil, Thunderbird myself.
[12:12] <dooglus> Chris_Tucker: first run       sudo grep % /etc/sudoers | awk '{print $1}'
[12:12] <sun_> tonyyarusso i use ion
[12:12] <dooglus> Chris_Tucker: that will tell you what group you need to be in
[12:13] <yggdrasil_> i was having a hard time getting evolution to sort out my multiple email accounts
[12:13] <tonyyarusso> sun_, There must be, but I don't know it.  There are some more cli-oriented people in here that might know.
[12:13] <yggdrasil_> it was totaly screwing them up
[12:13] <navarone> yggdrasil, I find evol okay...but seesm a bit of a resource hog...however I have not compared what thunderbird would be like as far as resources are concerned. Evolution has a whole suite installed so that may be the resource hungry bit there...<shrug>
[12:13] <graft> have you tried kmail?
[12:13] <ReWind^> ygg: Haven't really run much aside from Thunderbird for a while
[12:13] <dooglus> Chris_Tucker: on my system, all members of the admin group are allowed to sudo.  so to add another sudoer, all I do is add the user to the admin group
[12:13] <yggdrasil_> thats what im running
[12:13] <Malachi> yggdrasill: Wouldn't it be cool if there was a  Mozilla program (like ThunderBird) that would do everything Evolution does?
[12:13] <sun_> how to set the default printer from cli?
[12:13] <sorush20> is there any IRC client that can tell the male to female ration of a room just for fun?
[12:13] <yggdrasil_> i did notice that evolution has a few extras
[12:14] <Malachi> yggdrasil_: Spelled your name wrong...
[12:14] <Malachi> Heh.
[12:14] <Chris_Tucker> dooglus, well what your saying is probably right, it appears i asked in the wrong channel, im asking for pure debian... im off to find the right chan now
[12:14] <dooglus> sorush20: I wrote one, but it kept getting "divide by zero" errors
[12:14] <yggdrasil_> tried it for a while but then i jus switched over to thunder
[12:14] <Malachi> yggdrasil_: Do you know of any programs that come close?
[12:14] <Korupt> is there a howto anywhere for using WEP with wap_supplicant??
[12:14] <navarone> sorush20, that would require dna sampling or believing whatever gender people specify...<s>
[12:14] <yggdrasil_> malachi nope
[12:14] <yggdrasil_> aside from trying outlook with wine ?
[12:14] <Korupt> navarone, goto #ubuntu-offtopic plz
[12:14] <ReWind^> navarone: I have Synaptic running now, so going to try and find a log-file viewer and make some sense of it;)
[12:15] <trappist> kmail comes hella close
[12:15] <navarone> korupt pardon?
[12:15] <SuperSam> outlook with wine - was that successful?
[12:15] <yggdrasil_> kmail huh ?
[12:15] <yggdrasil_> i doubt it supersam i just threw it out to ...
[12:15] <Korupt> navarone, the discussion you were having... a bit too far off topic  ;)
[12:15] <yggdrasil_> cuz im ignorant and this is ow i get attention
[12:15] <SuperSam> oh right
[12:15] <SuperSam> lol
[12:15] <graft> yggdrasil_: KDE, konsarnit... you've hearda that, eh?
[12:15] <navarone> One comment does not s discussion make :)
[12:16] <sorush20> so if I change my repositories to dapper ..
[12:16] <yggdrasil_> graft nah dood
[12:16] <sorush20> then upgrade.. and then change repositories back to breezy will I be able to downgrade?
[12:16] <trappist> sorush20: no
[12:16] <yggdrasil_> im downloading the flight sim right now or id fire up my synaptics
[12:16] <dooglus> sorush20: I don't think so
[12:16] <Gnagert> I need some really newbie-questions.. someone ??
[12:16] <Korupt> anyway.... anybody catch my question?
[12:16] <yggdrasil_> graft explai nkonsarnit
[12:17] <trappist> Gnagert: how do I make a new folder <-- how's that?
[12:17] <Gnagert> sorry.. i need help whith these questiones...
[12:17] <trappist> :)
[12:17] <sorush20> Korupt: what are you talking about
[12:17] <trappist> Gnagert: hafta ask them first.
[12:17] <dooglus> Korupt: there's something on the wiki I've used before.  Not sure exactly where though sorry.
[12:17] <graft> yggdrasil_: err... i was just making a kde joke
[12:17] <tonyyarusso> Can Thunderbird have more than two e-mail addresses associated with a contact?
[12:17] <dooglus> Gnagert: just ask them
[12:18] <Korupt> sorush: wpa_supplicant is theoretically able to be configured to use WEP.... but everything I've found so far doesn't work
[12:18] <yggdrasil_> graft bastard
[12:18] <dooglus> Korupt: I didn't have any problems setting it up at all
[12:18] <graft> yggdrasil_: hey! no way, i've had paternity testing done
[12:18] <yggdrasil_> i wouldnt put it past them though
[12:19] <Gnagert> i've just installed ubuntu, never used linux before.. want to install a couple of programs but I don't get how to get these.. ?
[12:19] <dooglus> Korupt: but it wasn't on a machine I have access to any more unfortunately
[12:19] <Korupt> dooglus, crappage
[12:19] <SuperSam> GnaGert, www.google.co.uk/linux < Try it
[12:19] <graft> now I'm wondering if there's a KDE md5 checker called "Korupt"
[12:19] <dooglus> Gnagert: on the system menu, click 'administration' and then 'synaptic package manager'.
[12:19] <dooglus> Gnagert: you install things using synaptic
[12:19] <chrisx1> How do i upgrade from Hoary to Breezy?
[12:20] <sorush20> Korupt: wpa are you talking about dapper?
[12:20] <bimberi> !breezy
[12:20] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:20] <chrisx1> ty
[12:20] <Pygi> bye
[12:20] <graft> chrisx1: just change your repository line from hoary to breezy and do 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[12:20] <bimberi> yw :)
[12:20] <Gnagert> I didnt install the graphics..
[12:21] <dooglus> Gnagert: what do you want to install?
[12:21] <Korupt> sorush20, I am using dapper.... but that should be irrespective... wpa_supplicant is a package that allows WPA wireless access.... but at the expense of easily using WEP
[12:21] <Gnagert> for example ftp-server..
[12:22] <dooglus> Gnagert: run "apt-cache search ftp" to search for ftp packages
[12:22] <dooglus> Gnagert: "apt-cache search ftp | grep server" to limit the output to ftp servers
[12:22] <DShepherd> how do you list only directories at the CLI?
[12:23] <ubuntu> hello
[12:23] <sorush20> is there a dapper room anywehre?
[12:23] <graft> wow! the king himself!
[12:23] <dooglus> Gnagert: one of the lines I get back from the apt-search is "ftpd - FTP server".  to install it, run "sudo apt-get install ftpd"
[12:23] <SuperSam> Im testing my iPod in this machine..
[12:23] <ubuntu> ...
[12:23] <bimberi> DShepherd: ls -l | grep ^d
[12:23] <dooglus> sorush20: I think this is about as close to a dapper room as there is
[12:23] <yggdrasil_> im ircing from my ipod
[12:23] <graft> sorush20: i think this is the dapper room, more or less
[12:23] <SuperSam> ircing
[12:24] <SuperSam> how the fuck did you do that
[12:24] <ubuntu> Chule?
[12:24] <ubuntu> Chile?
[12:24] <graft> SuperSam: by lying
[12:24] <sorush20> well lest ask Seveas
[12:24] <tonyyarusso> I didn't know installing KDE would add its apps to the Gnome menus...
[12:24] <SuperSam> _ was going to say
[12:24] <SuperSam> lol
[12:24] <yggdrasil_> i installed kde on my ipod
[12:24] <sorush20> ubuntu are you really called ubuntu?
[12:24] <Seveas> sorush20, ?
[12:24] <graft> you know, i bet you could install kde on an ipod, too
[12:25] <sorush20> Seveas: just want to know how do down grade to breezy from dapper?
[12:25] <DShepherd> bimberi: thanks..
[12:25] <Gnagert> dooglus: what is these lines? programs?
[12:25] <ReWind^> Does anyone know where I would be looking for a log that gives insight into what happens after I log in from the Ubuntu login/pass prompt? My startup halts at around the time of the "welcome" sound.
[12:25] <SuperSam> Linux will conquer the world soon
[12:25] <vincenz> That's odd
[12:25] <dooglus> Gnagert: those lines are commands
[12:25] <bimberi> DShepherd: np :)
[12:25] <vincenz> I'm having problems installing ubuntu
[12:25] <SuperSam> They are making Linux for Mobile phones
[12:25] <graft> ReWind^: i'm willing to bet 10 to 1 you don't have a loopback interface
[12:25] <SuperSam> they have a release for the Soney Ericsson P900+
[12:25] <GhostFreeman> Is there an application I can use to limit application's download speed in a similar manner to NetLimiter?
[12:25] <DShepherd> bimberi: ow do you do the reverse that is list files only?
[12:25] <dooglus> Gnagert: you said you didn't install the GUI for ubuntu?  so all you have is the command line?  or what?
[12:25] <warreng> is there a gnome applet for wifi that just.... works? networkmanager never seems to work well... the default one that comes with ubuntu requires like 20 clicks every time to get it to go on a network.... i just want wireless to work
[12:25] <Seveas> sorush20, not
[12:25] <Seveas> reinstall
[12:25] <dooglus> DShepherd: this will list directories too:    find . -type d -maxdepth 1
[12:25] <ReWind^> graft: Humm, good question, give me a sec to check it out
[12:26] <yggdrasil_> i put network manager on my ipod
[12:26] <vincenz> I'm installing ubuntu on my laptop...everything works fine until it installs the base system... it gets an error while installing the base system, tells me there's a log, but ther is no log
[12:26] <Nei> my aptitude always forget the available packages, would someone know what happened?
[12:26] <Gnagert> dooglus: hrmm.. I can't find "ftpd - FTP server"
[12:26] <nekostar> ok new problem:
[12:26] <warreng> i want one that works like windows..... you have a list of "acceptable networks" and an order of preference
[12:26] <Gnagert> dooglus: yes
[12:26] <bimberi> DShepherd: ls -l | grep -v ^d
[12:26] <ReWind^> graft: Would that be visible in the network settings? Currently just have eth0 and ppp0 there
[12:26] <nekostar> i put my old dns server from my isp in and my new one in for ubuntu [i moved so i get a new one ;) ] 
[12:26] <vincenz> Please advise
[12:27] <graft> ReWind^: maybe not... check it in the shell with ifconfig -a
[12:27] <Johnny0> Hiya everyone
[12:27] <nekostar> but ubuntu cant actually do the name lookups; though it will do ip pings instead
[12:27] <dooglus> DShepherd: "find -maxdepth 1 -type f" will list only files
[12:27] <Rupert`> Does the default ATI driver that comes with Ubuntu have any sort of 3D support?
[12:27] <nekostar> any clue what is really going on and what i can do to fix it?
[12:27] <bimberi> dooglus: ah "-maxdepth 1" - i was wondering :)
[12:27] <nekostar> also how can ido manually a ifupdown cycle so i dont have to restart !_!
[12:27] <ReWind^> graft: Looks like I have it, eth0, lo and sit0 are present
[12:27] <dooglus> bimberi: if you put the "-type d" before the "-maxdepth 1" it complains a bit :)
[12:27] <Johnny0> Rupert - I have a ATI MobilityRadeon X300 that Im having issues with under Ubuntu
[12:27] <DShepherd> dooglus: thanks, bimberi thanks too
[12:28] <Belboz99> Hey, I've got two machines running Linux, both with SSH servers.  How do I specify which one to log onto when accesing them remotely?
[12:28] <nekostar> running openbox so its all manually inputted if that matters to anyone
[12:28] <graft> ReWind^: crap. looks like i'm out 10 to 1.
[12:28] <Rupert`> I've got an X300 too
[12:28] <vincenz> I'm installing ubuntu on my laptop...everything works fine until it installs the base system... it gets an error while installing the base system, tells me there's a log, but ther is no log
[12:28] <Rupert`> not mobility though
[12:28] <dooglus> Gnagert: having problems still?
[12:28] <tonyyarusso> Can I tell Gnome/KDE only to include their apps in their own menus, and stay out of each others' space?  (So, for instance, Kontact would not show up in the Applications menu under Gnome, but would in KDE)
[12:28] <Johnny0> Dell 9300 here
[12:28] <Rupert`> heh
[12:28] <ReWind^> graft: Hehe, that's ok, I won't hold you to it:P
[12:28] <Rupert`> ive got a dell too
[12:28] <ReWind^> graft: Any ideas are more than welcome;)
[12:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> nekostar: run ifdown and ifup
[12:28] <Rupert`> i just need to get 3D working so i can play guild wars in wine
[12:28] <nekostar> vincenz did you look in /var ?
[12:28] <DShepherd> dooglus, bimberi I need to go and learn this stuff. anywhere you guys can point me? I guess google would hav helped.. I was searching the ls man page like I was mad
[12:28] <nekostar> PuMpErNiCkLe thanx
[12:28] <Johnny0> I hear ya
[12:29] <vincenz> nekostar: nothing there
[12:29] <dooglus> nekostar: "sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0"
[12:29] <nekostar> gotcha
[12:29] <Johnny0> someone here should be able to help
[12:29] <vincenz> /target/var/log/bootsomething.log
[12:29] <Rupert`> thers some drivers on ati.com
[12:29] <vincenz> ain't there
[12:29] <Gnagert> dooglus: yes, I dont see this 2ftpd"
[12:29] <Johnny0> gnomefreak: if he's around
[12:29] <dooglus> DShepherd: "man find"
[12:29] <Rupert`> they look quite complicated though and I think its the ones that come with ubuntu anyway
[12:29] <nekostar> vincenz i honestly dont know a lot about it... but maybe if you look during the install its somwhere?
[12:29] <tonyyarusso> Why does update-grub not recognize that my /boot is on a separate partition?
[12:29] <bimberi> DShepherd: hanging out here is an excellent way :) - also there's ...
[12:29] <bimberi> ubotu tell DShepherd about cli
[12:29] <tonyyarusso> Can Thunderbird have more than two e-mail addresses associated with a contact?
[12:29] <dooglus> Gnagert: does "apt-cache show ftpd" show it?
[12:29] <SuperSam> Johnny0: Open terminal, and try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:29] <ReWind^> I'm feeling tempted to dub this the brown screen of death... It seems resilient:P
[12:29] <graft> ReWind^: dunno, you're pretty screwed... there's no general "Gnome Logs" or anything...
[12:29] <Nameeater> what could be causing my headless box's connection to the network when its attached to a monitor/keyboard/mouse but not when its completely headless? :/
[12:29] <navarone> ReWind^, it's still possible you have an irq sharing problem...I have heard of people experiencing that kinda thing...maybe video and sound are sharing irq and disrupting each other. That may explain the hanging when log on sound occurs...<?>
[12:30] <vincenz> nekostar: well while installing the base packages it gives me that error
[12:30] <DShepherd> bimberi, dooglus thanks again for the help.
[12:30] <Nameeater> network conenction not work*
[12:30] <bimberi> DShepherd: yw :)
[12:30] <Johnny0> SuperSam: What will that accomplish ?
[12:30] <ReWind^> navarone: Ok, thanks for the idea, I'll poke around in the bios and force a few and see if it makes a difference:)
[12:30] <dooglus> DShepherd: glad to help
[12:30] <graft> ReWind^: try disabling sounds first
[12:30] <ReWind^> graft: Doh, I was hoping for some nice NT-like ones, hehe :)
[12:30] <graft> before you go mucking around in the bios
[12:30] <nekostar> ok let me switch back to linux and give it a shot
[12:30] <SuperSam> Johnny0, goes through settings in a more detailed way, it should help you set it up fast
[12:30] <navarone> ReWind^, I think lspci may give you some clues if that is the problem
[12:31] <Gnagert> dooglus: Ive installed ubuntu in swedish.. i get this: couldnt fint packet ftpd, no packed found..
[12:31] <sorush20> is dapper using kde 3.5?
[12:31] <Gnagert> dooglus: freelie translated :)
[12:31] <Johnny0> will attempt that SuperSam
[12:31] <ReWind^> graft: Aye, just poked around there a bit, not sure I've turned it off completely though
[12:31] <graft> sorush20: yeah, dapper uses kde 3.5
[12:32] <dooglus> Gnagert: aah.  "ftpd" is in the "universe" repository.  you'll need to enable that if you want it.
[12:32] <ReWind^> navarone: Humm, my vid card shows up as 0000:02:00.0, but it looks from the other ones as the 2 next to last figures are the IRQ's
[12:32] <Gnagert> dooglus: and that means? like i said.. I newer (!) used linux before
[12:33] <dooglus> Gnagert: edit /etc/apt/sources.list to look something like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6925
[12:33] <navarone> ReWind^, lspci -v will give verbose results and show irq settings for devices
[12:33] <DShepherd> does anyone know if nautilus can, in breezy of in dapper, show files only OR directories only?
[12:33] <sorush20> can I keep Seveas repositories with dapper?
[12:33] <DShepherd> of =or
[12:33] <ReWind^> navarone: Oooh, sorry about that, thanks:)
[12:33] <dooglus> sorush20: I don't know.  I only use the official repositories
[12:33] <sorush20> can I keep Breezy back ports with dapper ?
[12:33] <yggdrasil_> can i run a vdr install from synaptic ?
[12:34] <Seveas> sorush20, maybe
[12:34] <dooglus> sorush20: breezy-backports are for packages backported from dapper - so you wouldn't need it
[12:34] <Seveas> sorush20, it's not recommened though
[12:34] <Seveas> but java is definitely possible
[12:34] <Seveas> freenx not
[12:34] <Malachi> Has anyone had a problem with Totem/mozilla-mplayer playing abnormally fast?
[12:34] <Brokenrgv> hi ppl just got ubuntu working with everything i want and sooo happy
[12:35] <bob832> hi, setting up a ftp server however, when i open up firefox on a computer on my lan and attempt to connect to the server, it never shows a login prompt, just an error for an incorrect login...what should i do?
[12:35] <Gnagert> dooglus:  "unknown mime-type for "etc/apt/sources.lite" -- using application/*"
[12:35] <ReWind^> navarone: Oooh, there might be something here! My vid card has it's own IRQ, but my audio controller (Via 82x onboard) is sharing it's IRQ quite liberally
[12:35] <vincenz> Anyone know why it might crash during installation?
[12:35] <sorush20> what about this repository deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[12:35] <graft> ReWind^: IRQs can be shared, though
[12:35] <graft> doesn't necessarily mean that much
[12:35] <Seveas> ReWind^, that's completely normal
[12:35] <navarone> ReWind^,  for example I have three devices sharing irq9 (with no problems knock wood) maybe devices are sharing and conflicting in your system. If any are sharing I dunno how to specifiy different ones tho
[12:35] <dooglus> Gnagert: what command did you run?
[12:36] <ReWind^> graft: Aye, true enough, but there also seems to be some abnormalities with the audio, it crashes if I fiddle around with it too much etc
[12:36] <Gnagert> dooglus:  just like you wrote
[12:36] <yggdrasil_> yea i was noticing that totem wasnt realy the best player
[12:36] <yggdrasil_> vlc seemed to work nicer
[12:36] <lightbright> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[12:36] <lightbright>   <-- ANY fix for this?
[12:36] <dooglus> Gnagert: ah.  I was writing in English, not in "linux"
[12:36] <graft> ReWind^: well... i'd be really surprised if it was IRQs, unless you have some non-standard kernel
[12:36] <Gnagert> dooglus: ohh..
[12:36] <Gnagert> dooglus: sorry
[12:37] <tonyyarusso> Can I tell Gnome/KDE only to include their apps in their own menus, and stay out of each others' space?  (So, for instance, Kontact would not show up in the Applications menu under Gnome, but would in KDE)
[12:37] <lightbright> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages
[12:37] <lightbright>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[12:37] <lightbright>   <--- Any fix for this???
[12:37] <navarone> ReWind^, you have both amd64 and 386 kernels still installed? If so are you getting more or less same problems using either?
[12:37] <dooglus> Gnagert: run "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:37] <ReWind^> graft, navarone, Seveas: Ok, I might be clutching at straws a little, lol... Having a lot of trouble breaking this problem, it's the weirdest thing since it works if I just start everything manually
[12:37] <lightbright> does anyone know of a breezy sources.list that doesnt actually give ANY error messages?
[12:37] <ozgurgerilla> exactly what plug in do I need to compile java files in the shell?
[12:37] <dooglus> Gnagert: and edit it to look like the sources.list I pasted at the URL I told you earlier
[12:37] <graft> mplayer is definitely my favorite overall... better than xine for sure
[12:37] <dooglus> Gnagert: (assuming you're on breezy and want to enable all the official repositories)
[12:37] <ReWind^> navarone: Just had one kernel at a time, first a base AMD64 install and then a base i386 install, both gave identical results
[12:37] <Seveas> lightbright, the standard ones such as psatebin post 6047 are good
[12:38] <navarone> ReWind^, okay
[12:38] <Gnagert> dooglus: what is breezy?
[12:38] <vincenz> :(
[12:38] <tonyyarusso> Gnagert, The 5.10 release.
[12:38] <vincenz> blegh
[12:38] <Knowerrors> Any dialup modem users in here?  Need help getting modem on hold working, if possible
[12:38] <Paradosso> hi
[12:38] <dooglus> Gnagert: it's version 5.10 of ubuntu
[12:38] <ReWind^> navarone: The only google fix I can find that I haven't fully explored so far is using the nvidia driver instead of the nv one because (blush), I can't get the nvidia one to work
[12:38] <Paradosso> does anyone has the link to the current skype .deb package please
[12:39] <graft> ReWind^: yeah, definitely switch to the nvidia driver, it's much better than the nv one
[12:39] <navarone> ReWind^, what card are you using?
[12:39] <Gnagert> dooglus: i don't know which release i got
[12:39] <dooglus> Gnagert: "cat /etc/lsb-release" will tell you
[12:39] <ReWind^> graft, navarone: I'm using a GF6800
[12:39] <tonyyarusso> Paradosso, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/.
[12:39] <Rupert`> is there any good easy to configure ATI driver for ubuntu that supports 3D?
[12:40] <Paradosso> thanks tonyyarusso
[12:40] <graft> ReWind^: load up multiverse and pop the nvidia non-free driver in there
[12:40] <Plazma> has anyone successfully gotten an ipod to work in ubuntu via firewire?
[12:40] <ReWind^> graft, navarone: But I'm just getting no signal every time I try to get the nvidia ones up and running, I suspect it might have something to do with my 70hz max lcd on a DVI plug
[12:40] <tonyyarusso> Paradosso, np.  But be prepared for trouble loading the page; the wiki's been weird today.
[12:40] <graft> ReWind^: no signal?
[12:40] <Gnagert> dooglus: [Release=5.10) :)
[12:41] <Johnny0> Ok
[12:41] <dooglus> Gnagert: right.  breezy.
[12:41] <ReWind^> graft: Can I get multiverse from synaptic, or is it a seperate thing?
[12:41] <Johnny0> went through it fine supersam
[12:41] <dooglus> can it really be true that there's no FTP server in the main repository?
[12:41] <Plazma> ReWind^, put it in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[12:41] <Plazma> and then synaptic will geti t
[12:41] <ReWind^> graft: Aye, although I have no way of testing whether it's not sending a signal, or just not sending a signal within my monitors specs
[12:41] <Johnny0> Rupert`: did that fix your issue as well ?
[12:42] <graft> ReWind^: yeah, but that's easily trouble-shot via Xorg logs
[12:42] <Gnagert> dooglus: this file is full of text?
[12:42] <Johnny0> I have a new 20" LCD that I am trying to figure how how to get it work work in Ubuntu - not sure how to switch monitor selection
[12:42] <dooglus> ftpd, ftpd-ssl, inetutils-ftpd, krb5-ftpd, libnet-ftpserver-perl, pure-ftpd, tftpd, twoftpd, wu-ftpd, and wzdftpd are all in universe
[12:42] <dooglus> Gnagert: yes, it will be.
[12:42] <graft> Johnny0: what X-server are you running?
[12:42] <Gnagert> dooglus: delete?
[12:42] <Rupert`> Johnny0 did sam's thing fix anything?
[12:42] <Johnny0> Gnome
[12:42] <dooglus> Gnagert: you might find the 'universe' line in there commented out - I forget.
[12:42] <ReWind^> Plazma: I'm afraid I fell off the boat for a second there, lol
[12:42] <Johnny0> gnome graft
[12:42] <dooglus> Gnagert: you could just uncomment the line with 'universe' in it if it's there
[12:43] <Plazma> ReWind^, yea? i fell of a long time ago
[12:43] <graft> Johnny0: that's a desktop environment, not an X server...
[12:43] <ReWind^> graft: Ok, I'll try reinstalling them, I've only tried them on the AMD64 kernel, so there's also the possibility that the probs with them where specific to that build
[12:43] <graft> oic
[12:43] <ReWind^> Plazma: You mean I should put an address for multiverse in my sources.list file, right?
[12:44] <dooglus> !universe
[12:44] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:44] <Plazma> ReWind^, yes
[12:44] <dooglus> Gnagert: see the links that ubotu just said?
[12:45] <ReWind^> Plazma, ubotu: Excellent, thanks! :)
[12:45] <navarone> ReWind^, easier way to get multiverse is to open Synaptic and chose Setting/Repositories/Settings and make sure "Show disabled sources" is checked.Then other repos will be visible for you to check and enable
[12:45] <Gnagert> dooglus: yes
[12:45] <lightbright> does anyone know of a breezy sources.list that doesnt actually give ANY error messages?
[12:45] <Plazma> ReWind^, glad to be of helpb:D
[12:45] <lightbright> Seveas: 6047?
[12:45] <ReWind^> navarone: Cool, thank you:)
[12:45] <Johnny0> graft ? mind helping me on this
[12:45] <Seveas> lightbright, paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[12:45] <Seveas> that one works
[12:45] <graft> Johnny0: um. trying to think of the best way for the linux-ignorant to determine this
[12:46] <Seveas> if it gives errors: apt-get update
[12:46] <Johnny0> :)
[12:46] <Seveas> THEN it works
[12:46] <graft> Johnny0: you can just do 'dpkg -l | grep xserver' in the shell
[12:46] <lightbright> Seveas http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047  <-- im using that now and it gives 3 errors!
[12:46] <Set_> !ssh
[12:46] <ubotu> it has been said that ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[12:46] <psusi> hrm... the bins in this package are being built with -g, and I set the -k flag to dh_strip, but the package still doesn't contain the debug symbol files... is there another step needed to get them to be included?
[12:46] <dooglus> lightbright: this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6925
[12:46] <Plazma> !beer
[12:46] <psusi> oops, wrong channel
[12:46] <lightbright> Seveas: for example, Err http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages
[12:46] <lightbright>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[12:46] <Plazma> thats what im talking about
[12:46] <Paradosso> Seveas, "deb http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas list_of_sections" should be pasted in /etc/apt/sources.list as it is
[12:46] <lightbright> dooglus: you using 6925?
[12:46] <Fujitsu_Edm> Hey all, need some help with Snort-Mysql,
[12:46] <Gnagert> dooglus: i dont get it.. uncomment?
[12:46] <Paradosso> or does "list_of_sections" stand for mthg?
[12:47] <graft> after he's done I need some help with Snort-Cocaine
[12:47] <navarone> Gnagert remove the "#" in front of line
[12:47] <lightbright> Seveas: what about http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6925 ?  will that work?
[12:47] <dooglus> Gnagert: lines beginning with a # are ignored
[12:47] <Johnny0> graft: 6.7.2-77 ???? is that what you were looking for ?
[12:47] <graft> ah yes
[12:47] <Fujitsu_Edm> Snort-Mysql is an open source IDS system
[12:48] <gnomefreak> lightbright, on this pastebin link doesnt show what is in your if your getting a gzip error than you have a repo that isnt on that list in yours
[12:48] <dooglus> Gnagert: so "uncomment" means to remove the "#" in front of the lines you want to use
[12:48] <yggdrasil_> whats ids ?
[12:48] <graft> Johnny0: probably you want to upgrade to the latest x-server... do sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[12:48] <Fujitsu_Edm> Intrusion Detection System
[12:48] <yggdrasil_> oh
[12:48] <Gnagert> dooglus: there is a couple of lines with # in front of em'?
[12:48] <graft> but it should auto-detect your monitor anyway
[12:48] <Johnny0> I'll give it a whirl
[12:48] <Johnny0> be back in a few
[12:49] <dooglus> Gnagert: are there lines with the word 'universe' in them?
[12:49] <Johnny0> said it's already the latest version
[12:49] <Gnagert> dooglus: yes
[12:49] <Fujitsu_Edm> Hoping someone the here can help with the config
[12:49] <gnomefreak> lol lightbright  if your using the exact list of Madpilot's than you need to uncomment lines 9-11
[12:49] <gnomefreak> 19-21 also
[12:49] <dooglus> Gnagert: and they have '#' at the beginning?
[12:49] <graft> Johnny0: ... um. what are you running, breezy? hoary?
[12:49] <ReWind^> Ok, trying to grab the 7667 drivers now
[12:49] <Johnny0> breezy I assume
[12:49] <Seveas> Paradosso, NO
[12:49] <Seveas> read the wikipage
[12:49] <Gnagert> dooglus: 6 lines with # and finishing with universe
[12:50] <dooglus> Gnagert: so remove the # on those lines, then run "sudo apt-get update" to download the list of contents for the universe repository
[12:50] <Paradosso> which wikipage?
[12:50] <Seveas> lightbright, no that one will not work
[12:50] <dooglus> Gnagert: you probably don't want the 3 with "deb-src", but you want the other 3
[12:50] <graft> um. breezy should definitely be on 6.8.0 at least
[12:50] <graft> Johnny0: did you apt-get update recently?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> 6.8.0?
[12:50] <dooglus> Seveas: why do you say that?
[12:50] <Johnny0> graft: I didn't mention - I have a laptop - trying to use the DVI-D port for this monitor on my desk
[12:50] <tonyyarusso> Can I tell Gnome/KDE only to include their apps in their own menus, and stay out of each others' space?  (So, for instance, Kontact would not show up in the Applications menu under Gnome, but would in KDE)
[12:50] <ReWind^> Ok, I'm gonna try restarting X and see if that works! Be back soon if it does:) Thanks for all the help so far:)
[12:50] <tonyyarusso> Why does update-grub not recognize that my /boot is on a separate partition?
[12:50] <tonyyarusso> Can Thunderbird have more than two e-mail addresses associated with a contact?
[12:51] <Seveas> dooglus, breezy-security is not on archive.ubuntu.com
[12:51] <graft> Johnny0: OH... haha, quite different
[12:51] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso, yes
[12:51] <graft> do you want a dual-head deal?
[12:51] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, How?
[12:51] <navarone> tonyyarusso, was boot always in a seperate partion?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso, my thunderbird isnt sending email only reciving
[12:51] <dooglus> Seveas: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/ ?
[12:51] <Seveas> graft, 6.8.2 to be precisely vague :)
[12:51] <Seveas> dooglus, hmmm...
[12:51] <graft> tyvm, Seveas
[12:51] <tonyyarusso> navarone, No, but I did a fresh install since making it so, overwriting /, but not /home.
[12:51] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso, when you add them to your address book there will be a place
[12:51] <Seveas> -EBRAINFART
[12:51] <Johnny0> graft: or the option to use the laptop screen or the 20inch or both - all options would be great
[12:51] <preben> WOHOO!
[12:51] <Plazma> has anyone had any luck getting an ipod to work with firewire in ubuntu?
[12:52] <Fujitsu_Edm> Hey all, need some help with Snort-Mysql,
[12:52] <vincenz> hmm
[12:52] <ReWind^> Ubuntu now officially -works- on my comp:)
[12:52] <graft> Johnny0: your laptop probably has some 'switch to monitor' key, right?
[12:52] <Johnny0> yes
[12:52] <vincenz> seems to be reading REALLY long from the cd for installing the "passwd" package
[12:52] <graft> like Fn-F7 or some such
[12:52] <Johnny0> function keys
[12:52] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, I only see e-mail and alternate e-mail address book fields, so it will only let me do two.
[12:52] <graft> just hit that...
[12:52] <Johnny0> no dice
[12:52] <graft> what's it do?
[12:52] <lightbright> Seveas: well can you please tell me any sources.list that will work without errors for Breezy?
[12:52] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso, hold on a sec
[12:52] <ReWind^> Seems the nvidia-drivers were the key, and they installed like a doozy now:)
[12:53] <Seveas> lightbright, I told you about 4 times already....
[12:53] <lightbright> Seveas: my sources.list has always worked perfectly for months until today
[12:53] <graft> ReWind^: nice!
[12:53] <dooglus> lightbright: both the one I told you and the one Seveas told you are fine
[12:53] <Johnny0> nothing graft - I've tried that prior to coming in here
[12:53] <lightbright> Seveas: and I told you 3 times, it STILL gives errors
[12:53] <Seveas> lightbright, then paste the errors on the pastebin
[12:53] <vincenz> tonyyarusso: hi
[12:53] <yggdrasil_> how can i check what version of x im running ?
[12:53] <lightbright> Seveas lightbright, paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 <--- GIVES errors
[12:53] <dooglus> lightbright: what error?
[12:53] <ReWind^> Thanks a lot graft, navarone and everyone else who helped!
[12:53] <tonyyarusso> vincenz, You're back.
[12:53] <vincenz> tonyyarusso: any reason why the previous attempt at installing failed during base package installation
[12:53] <lightbright> Seveas: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[12:53] <lightbright> Seveas: ok
[12:53] <lightbright> brb
[12:53] <Johnny0> graft: lemme pull up the specs on this thing and see what it lists the keyboard as
[12:53] <vincenz> tonyyarusso: on my desktop, it's taking really long for the "passwd" package
[12:53] <Seveas> lightbright, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*ubuntu*
[12:53] <gnomefreak> lightbright, get rid of the cdrom repo
[12:53] <Seveas> and retry
[12:54] <vincenz> ah, moved on to sudo
[12:54] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso, look under the last tab you can do custom cant you?
[12:54] <lightbright> Seveas: i type:  sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*ubuntu* ?
[12:54] <Seveas> yes
[12:54] <tonyyarusso> vincenz, Could be internet connection thing, system resources, or who knows what.  I'd say don't worry about it unless it stops entirely.
[12:54] <yggdrasil_> ok thats all i got im out
[12:54] <graft> yggdrasil_: check your xserver log
[12:54] <dooglus> yggdrasil: dpkg -l xserver-xorg
[12:55] <Johnny0> graft:  brb - will try running the setup again - I think I may have found the issue
[12:55] <cello_rasp> can anyone help me with mounting? i have an ipod shuffle that will only mount when ubuntu has been rebooted. I suspect the fact that it does not unmount cleanly has something to do with it, but it won't mount when plugged in. my other removable usb drive has no such problems..
[12:55] <Paradosso> Seveas, I replaced list_of_sections with backports custom FreeNX etc., I ran apt-get uodate a couple of times, it still gives errors
[12:55] <vincenz> tonyyarusso: it did last time
[12:55] <vincenz> tonyyarusso: it crashed during base package installatio
[12:55] <Seveas> Paradosso, errors on the pastebin
[12:55] <vincenz> tonyyarusso: referred me to an inexistant log
[12:55] <Johnny0> No need
[12:55] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, True.  Didn't even think of that.  Is that the best way?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> cello_rasp, did you install banshee?
[12:55] <ubuntu> Hello
[12:55] <tonyyarusso> vincenz, Not fun.  Not sure why.
[12:55] <Seveas> Paradosso, my repo (and mirrors) were malfunctioning in the last half our
[12:55] <cello_rasp> gnomefreak: no.
[12:55] <Johnny0> graft: all function keys except for the monitor switch is operating fine
[12:55] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso, ive never used it so im not sure but looks like the only way
[12:55] <Paradosso> that's it maybe
[12:55] <cello_rasp> gnomefreak: this is only for using the shuffle as a removable drive
[12:55] <Seveas> Paradosso, so you might want to retry again, all should ne ok now
[12:55] <Paradosso> extras work
[12:55] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell cello_rasp about ipod
[12:56] <Paradosso> Java, FreeNX aren't found
[12:56] <Paradosso> tried 3 mirrors
[12:56] <Seveas> Paradosso, all lowercase
[12:56] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, Well, at least I know that's a possibility.  Forgot those were there.
[12:56] <gnomefreak> cello_rasp, i have a shuffle working fine on mine
[12:56] <Seveas> not Java but java
[12:56] <graft> Johnny0: sure you don't have to press some other weird key combo?
[12:56] <Paradosso> ahh I see
[12:56] <Johnny0> nope
[12:56] <ubuntu> i have a problem
[12:56] <Johnny0> blue fn key and f8
[12:56] <ubuntu> can someone help me
[12:56] <gnomefreak> ubuntu, tell us what it is
[12:56] <graft> can you try it with a regular monitor?
[12:56] <gnomefreak> we cant help unless we know
[12:57] <graft> or do you only have DVI out?
[12:57] <cello_rasp> gnomefreak thanks, i just want to use it as a removable drive but it never unmounts properly.
[12:57] <tonyyarusso> !tell ubuntu about ask
[12:57] <ubuntu> well my computer only seems to be stable when i run ubuntu, weather it's from the live cd or install
[12:57] <Johnny0> I've got all different outputs
[12:57] <Johnny0> graft: before I boot into the desktop enviro - it allows me to switch
[12:57] <gnomefreak> ubuntu stable is good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:57] <lightbright> Seveas: when I used 6047, and then sudo apt-get update, I get the following errors you can see at:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6926
[12:57] <ubuntu> i guessing it does a better job at detecting my hardware
[12:58] <graft> Johnny0: ah... so it is an X server problem for sure
[12:58] <Johnny0> when it comes up tot he login page - and starts into the desktop enviro - poof - gone
[12:58] <ubuntu> so I was wondering how I could see what has been detected
[12:58] <Seveas> lightbright, even after that command I gave you a few minutes ago?
[12:58] <graft> Johnny0: err, the login screen it's still okay?
[12:58] <gnomefreak> lightbright, get rid of the cdrom repo!
[12:58] <Johnny0> yes - no further then that
[12:58] <graft> so only AFTER you've logged in does it crap out?
[12:58] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: hardinfo will probably be what you're looking for.
[12:58] <Johnny0> the function key will operate and switch just fine
[12:58] <Johnny0> yes
[12:58] <graft> hrm
[12:58] <Johnny0> craps out after login
[12:58] <graft> that's not an X problem
[12:58] <lightbright> gnomefreak: but I just copied and pasted the website Seveas gave me
[12:59] <gnomefreak> hes getting that i386 binary error
[12:59] <nipplesrulz> arg
[12:59] <nipplesrulz> so im kinda pulling my hair out here hehe
[12:59] <gnomefreak> thats caused byt the cdrom repo
[12:59] <lightbright> Seveas: im trying again withyour command!  what does  sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*ubuntu*
[12:59] <lightbright>  do anyway?
[12:59] <nipplesrulz> ive got /etc/network/interfaces configged same on the other machine as this one
[12:59] <Knowerrors> Anyone know a way to make a dialup modem auto disconnect when the call waiting beep begins?  Like a way to be more sensitivie to line noise maybe
[12:59] <nipplesrulz> but it refuses to pull up the internet somehow
[12:59] <ubuntu> thank you very much
[12:59] <graft> Johnny0: does login work normally on your laptop? i mean you can normally use it okay
[01:00] <lightbright> Seveas: what does  "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*ubuntu*"  do exactly anyway so I can learn
[01:00] <Paradosso> Seveas, still errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6927
[01:00] <nipplesrulz> when i run sudo ifdown -a // then sudo ifup -a only lo comes up for some reason
[01:00] <dooglus> lightbright: 'sudo' runs stuff as root, 'rm' removes stuff, /var/lib/apt/lists/ is where apt-get keeps the repository contents.
[01:00] <gnomefreak> light rm=remove
[01:00] <Johnny0> Yes
[01:00] <Johnny0> using it now
[01:00] <nipplesrulz> is there a way to reconfigure em from scratch? the file is the same on that one as this one and this one works fine.
[01:00] <dooglus> lightbright: so the command deletes the corrupted stuff you've got that's messing things up
[01:00] <Seveas> lightbright, it cleans out the caches listings
[01:00] <Gnagert> dooglus: Hi again... changed this file that it looked like the one in the link.. now i get another messege..
[01:01] <Seveas> if it still gives errors, then there's something funky at the server
[01:01] <lightbright> Seveas: ah I get it, cause the cache may be causing the errors, I get it
[01:01] <mwe> nipplesrulz: it only affects interfaces marked as auto
[01:01] <lightbright> dooglus: makes sense, ty
[01:01] <nipplesrulz> huh
[01:01] <graft> Johnny0, what's your video card and such? what video drivers are you using?
[01:01] <lightbright> Seveas: anyway, after your command and after using the sources.list you gave, it still gives 3 errors
[01:01] <Set_> does Ubuntu 5.10 do something different than 4.10, because installation is taking forever on 5.10 compared to 4.10
[01:01] <dooglus> Gnagert: are you going to tell me what that other message is?
[01:02] <Johnny0> ATI MobilityRadeon X300
[01:02] <lightbright> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6928
[01:02] <gnomefreak> lightbright, look at the top and get rid of the cdrom repo the error you are getting is from that
[01:02] <conflikt> hmm i got no sound ?
[01:02] <Johnny0> xserver setup detected the card just fine
[01:02] <Gnagert> dooglus: trying to translate it..
[01:02] <mwe> Set_: where does it seem to be slow, exactly? mine comes up fast
[01:02] <dooglus> Gnagert: ok:)
[01:02] <tonyyarusso> Can I specify at shutdown -r which grub menu entry to use when it comes back up?  (Basically a grub savedefault for only one-time use.)
[01:02] <nipplesrulz> meh
[01:02] <mwe> tonyyarusso: no
[01:02] <nipplesrulz> is there a way to reconfigure this short of reinstalling?
[01:02] <conflikt> can someone help i lost my sound i messed with alsa-mixer didnt help
[01:02] <graft> hrmrmrm... not doing anything funky like running Composite extensions?
[01:03] <tonyyarusso> mwe: Phooey.
[01:03] <Set_> "Installing packages". Installed 4.10 first, decided to get 5.10 and burned an iso with it. 5.10's install seems slower
[01:03] <Johnny0> graft: not sure what you are asking again :)
[01:03] <mwe> tonyyarusso: shutdown knows nothing about grub
[01:03] <Gnagert> dooglus: should have installed it in english instead :)
[01:03] <graft> Johnny0, so... probably not, then
[01:03] <lightbright> gnomefreak: my sourvces doesnt have any cdrom!  look at it here:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6929
[01:03] <Otaku> meep
[01:03] <lightbright> gnomefreak: see my sources list at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6929  and the errors I get at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6928
[01:04] <Seveas> lightbright, there's something funky at the server
[01:04] <Seveas> try using se.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:04] <lightbright> Seveas: funky?
[01:04] <tonyyarusso> mwe: Could I pipe something, or otherwise accomplish the same thing?  It doesn't have to be in the shutdown command, for instance I wouldn't be opposed to something like 'grub, next time and next time only, use number 3 && shutdown -r now'
[01:04] <funkyHat> arrrghhHH!!! damn triggers!
[01:04] <lightbright> Seveas: ok or should I try later using the same?
[01:04] <Gnagert> dooglus: "Could'nt take status on the sourcepackagelist"
[01:05] <graft> Johnny0, so what happens if you start off in monitor mode from the console and then from there fire up the login manager and log in? it dies? kicks you back to the laptop screen?
[01:05] <lightbright> gnomefreak: can you see there is no cdrom
[01:05] <dooglus> Gnagert: when you ran what?
[01:05] <mwe> tonyyarusso: not that I know of
[01:05] <tonyyarusso> mwe: Okay.
[01:05] <Johnny0> Nope - works just fine if I "startx" from CLI
[01:05] <Set_> installed now :)
[01:05] <Johnny0> weird eh ? :)
[01:05] <Gnagert> dooglus: apt-cache show ftpd
[01:05] <gnomefreak> lightbright, i use those and no issues im sure Seveas uses them too he has no issues
[01:05] <LinuxMonk> how do I get sshd installed, for some reason its not installed on my ubuntu
[01:05] <mwe> tonyyarusso: go over the grub docs though, if you really want to investigate
[01:06] <dooglus> Gnagert: did you "sudo apt-get update"?
[01:06] <gnomefreak> binary-i386 is the error you get with the cdrom repo
[01:06] <graft> but if you start gdm while you're using the monitor...?
[01:06] <Gnagert> dooglus: no
[01:06] <mwe> LinuxMonk: sudo apt-get install ssh
[01:06] <dooglus> Gnagert: you should
[01:06] <Johnny0> craps out graft
[01:06] <tonyyarusso> mwe: Will do.
[01:06] <graft> ah, as soon as you start gdm it craps out?
[01:06] <Johnny0> yes
[01:06] <graft> or only after you log in to gnome
[01:06] <mwe> LinuxMonk: it wasn't installed here either untill I did that
[01:06] <Johnny0> after I log into gnome regularly - if I come up to a CLI - and then "startx" it works fine
[01:06] <vincenz> tonyyarusso: crap, exactly same problem as before while installing a base package
[01:07] <tonyyarusso> vincenz, Could your CD be bad?
[01:07] <vincenz> maybe...
[01:07] <vincenz> I burned an iso
[01:07] <vincenz> one would think that's good
[01:07] <vincenz> blegh
[01:07] <lightbright> gnomefreak: Seveas just said the servers are funky
[01:07] <mwe> vincenz: you wouldn't be the first to burn a bad cd
[01:08] <lightbright> gnomefreak: Seveas lightbright, there's something funky at the server
[01:08] <mwe> vincenz: I believe you can md5sum it to check
[01:08] <Gnagert> dooglus: now there is a couple of lines when I write [pt-cache show ftpd9
[01:08] <lightbright> gnomefreak: can you do a sudo apt-get update right now and tell me if you get errors?
[01:08] <graft> Johnny0: erm, wait, time out... so by "log in to gnome" i mean, after gdm starts up and has the nice pretty login screen you type your password in there... n ot logging into a text console
[01:08] <vincenz> I'm gonna burn it with my newer laptop and windows
[01:08] <dooglus> Gnagert: just a couple?
[01:08] <gnomefreak> lightbright, he said if that doesnt fix it there is something funky but im betting most of the people in here are using the same repos as those
[01:08] <Johnny0> yeah - the nice prretty screen that I login to - after that - it craps out
[01:09] <gnomefreak> lightbright, no i cant im doing updates
[01:09] <Gnagert> dooglus: 16
[01:09] <dooglus> Gnagert: I'd expect around 21 of them
[01:09] <Johnny0> if I come into a CLI - then "startx" without the pretty lil screen - it's fine
[01:09] <dooglus> Gnagert: right.
[01:09] <dooglus> so you can "sudo apt-get install ftpd" now
[01:09] <mwe> vincenz: burn at slow speed
[01:09] <Johnny0> graft: when I do that though - the monitor switch function keys still don't work - but Im able to use my big pretty new monitor
[01:09] <graft> okay... cool... so can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[01:10] <Gnagert> dooglus: yes.. thanks..
[01:10] <lightbright> gnomefreak: well how else can you explain it if im using the EXACT same sources.list as you?
[01:10] <Set_> !dns
[01:10] <ubotu> Set_: I don't know
[01:10] <dooglus> Gnagert: now you've got the fun of working out how to set it up
[01:10] <Set_> simple question Ubuntu 5.10... how do I set static DNS?
[01:10] <graft> !pastebin
[01:11] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:11] <gnomefreak> dooglus, are you using archive ubuntu repos without a country code?
[01:11] <mwe> Set_: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[01:11] <lightbright> gnomefreak: can you paste your sources.list that you use for Breezy pls
[01:11] <dooglus> gnomefreak: yes
[01:11] <mwe> Set_: read "man interfaces"
[01:11] <Johnny0> Ok
[01:11] <Johnny0> standby
[01:11] <Gnagert> dooglus: now i'm going to bed, and tomorrow I will ask someone how to install GUI =)
[01:11] <gnomefreak> dooglus, can you run apt-get update please let me know if you get a binary-i386
[01:11] <dooglus> gnomefreak: most of the country-code archives all resolve to the same server in london anyway, don't they?
[01:11] <gnomefreak> error
[01:12] <gnomefreak> lightbright, my sources list for breezy is at www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc/linux.html
[01:12] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6930
[01:12] <allan__> whats a good program for playing mp3s/
[01:12] <graft> allan__: mplayer!
[01:12] <cello_rasp> allan__: totem. supports samba!
[01:13] <graft> err... or amarok
[01:13] <graft> depends if you want pretty or powerful, i guess
[01:13] <mjr> I don't get why people use things like mplayer/xine/totem for playing audio
[01:13] <gnomefreak> lightbright, i find it funny your the only one with issues
[01:13] <Johnny0> graft: here ya go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6931
[01:13] <gnomefreak> ty dooglus
[01:13] <graft> mjr, because they play frigging everything?
[01:13] <mjr> isn't some audio player, like rhythmbox, a more natural choice
[01:14] <graft> Johnny0: use the radeon driver instead of the 'ati' driver
[01:14] <cello_rasp> mjr: some people only want one program for everything. and lots of people cant be bothered with a library manager
[01:14] <dooglus> mjr: if all you want to do is play it, why not use mplayer?
[01:14] <graft> that should help you out a bunch
[01:14] <dooglus> who needs a gui really - I don't want to skip backwards and forwards, just play it
[01:14] <Set_> Request for a suggestion on a easy to setup ftp server with sftp capatibilities
[01:14] <Johnny0> What's that gotta do with the function keys not working properly graft?
[01:14] <navarone> I use xmms to play and r-box to set up playlists to burn
[01:14] <graft> also comment out your HorizSync and VertRefresh and Modeline lines
[01:14] <mwe> gmplayer aint bad either
[01:15] <graft> Johnny0: not much, but it'll maybe stop it from crapping out
[01:15] <mjr> Set_, suggestion: Just use the sftp server available with the openssh-server, and skip normal ftp altogether
[01:15] <Johnny0> Ok - worth a shot
[01:15] <Johnny0> be back in a few
[01:15] <navarone> If you use r-box playlists to burn cds you always have record of what you have burnt for people and no repeats...<s>
[01:15] <Set_> okay. this is a *real* n00b question. where is the terminal in 5.10 ?
[01:16] <gnomefreak> Set_, applications>accesories>terminal
[01:16] <jar> hello
[01:16] <navarone> Set Applications/Accessories
[01:16] <jar> new here
[01:16] <Set_> oh. it was in system tools in 4.10 :p
[01:16] <Set_> thx
[01:16] <navarone> ^5 gnomefreak ...you da gnome
[01:16] <gnomefreak> ^5 navarone
[01:17] <gnomefreak> Set_, yes it was
[01:17] <gnomefreak> they moved it
[01:17] <navarone> gnomefreak, ...lets try to ge t a wave goin'...<s>
[01:17] <graft> damn bureaucrats!
[01:17] <gnomefreak> root terminal is now in system tools
[01:17] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:17] <Set_> !ssh
[01:17] <ubotu> I guess ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[01:17] <gnomefreak> lightbright, the lower half of that list will give you errors only use the upper part
[01:17] <graft> Set_: if you're running a normal ssh server, it can do SFTP usually
[01:18] <j3di> i just installed apache
[01:18] <j3di> but it only let me install apache2.. not apache1.3..
[01:18] <Set_> graft, I was looking for a server with both sftp and normal, anonymous ftp traffic (that allows anonymous users to upload to a upload folder)
[01:18] <j3di> the config files are way confusing..
[01:18] <cello_rasp> my ipod shuffle, (using solely as a usb drive) will not eject: "eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument". other usb drives do so with no problem. furthermore the shuffle is not remounted when inserted again, except after reboot
[01:18] <mwe> j3di: how so
[01:18] <graft> Set_: oh... well, then you actually do want an ftp server
[01:19] <graft> but i'd be wary
[01:19] <mjr> Set_, you can set up an "anonymous" sftp account by setting the shell of that to /usr/lib/sftp-server
[01:19] <j3di> i cant figure out where to change the document root
[01:19] <mwe> j3di: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[01:19] <mjr> but of course, if you want regular ftp users to be able to connect, that doesn't help
[01:19] <theconartist> why might my sound still play though my speakers when my earphones are plugged in... it is supposed to only do 1 at a time on this
[01:19] <Set_> mjr, that was the idea
[01:19] <graft> Set_: you're aware of the security risks, right?
[01:19] <Set_> I just want a ftp server that have the possibility for sftp and is easy to setup
[01:19] <Set_> graft, yep
[01:19] <j3di> or make a directory change that lets it list contents where there is no index.html
[01:20] <theconartist> does anyone have an idea?
[01:20] <mjr> regular ftp is just a pain in the arse and should be shot :)
[01:20] <Set_> mjr, I still want it :)
[01:20] <j3di> i belive openssh-server will give you sftp access
[01:20] <graft> Set_, take your pick of a dozen different ftp servers in the repos
[01:20] <navarone> theconartist, do you have both headphones and speakers plugged into the soundcard or the headphones plugged into the speakers jack?
[01:20] <graft> but normal ftp sucks
[01:20] <mwe> j3di: err the DocumentRoot is in the sites in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/*
[01:20] <Set_> okay... let me rephrase
[01:21] <fraggsta> anyone got any idea how to get xine on PowerPC to support videos with an MP3 audio track (ie: pretty much all)
[01:21] <Set_> I'd like suggestions on a normal ftp server that will kill my cat and burn my car, but still is easy setup. I know normal ftp stinks, but I'd like it anyway. is there anyone out there, that is crazy like me, and actually knows of one that's easy to setup? :)
[01:22] <mwe> fraggsta: I guess you need the mp3 codec. I have no idea where to get it for ppc though
[01:22] <Set_> !ftp
[01:22] <ubotu> Good FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP server: proftpd
[01:22] <Seveas> !maccodecs
[01:22] <ubotu> it has been said that maccodecs is http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html
[01:22] <amgad> guys, how can i install ubuntu without having a cdrom drive
[01:22] <Seveas> not
[01:23] <purpleheart_USMC> what is a good program to view dvd's?
[01:23] <Seveas> well, it's very hard but not impossible
[01:23] <Seveas> you need to know a lot about the system though
[01:23] <Seveas> purpleheart_USMC, totem is OK
[01:23] <bimberi> amgad: various options described here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[01:23] <amgad> i already booted the installation, but i cant mount the iso because there is no loop module available on the installatiom shell
[01:23] <graft> purpleheart_USMC: mplayer!
[01:24] <purpleheart_USMC> ty
[01:24] <gnomefreak> !iso
[01:24] <ubotu> [iso]  download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[01:24] <empirebit> holappppppppppppppppp
[01:24] <gnomefreak> :(
[01:24] <amgad> bimberi?
[01:24] <mwe> empirebit: don't be lame
[01:25] <bimberi> amgad: er, under "Advanced Installation Methods"
[01:25] <Set_> !proftpd
[01:25] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Set_
[01:25] <sorush20> why don't dapper have backports again?
[01:25] <gnomefreak> Set_, what are you looking for?
[01:25] <amgad> InstallationFromLinuxHardDisk
[01:25] <amgad> This page does not exist yet.
[01:25] <amgad> !!!!!
[01:25] <ubotu> No idea, amgad
[01:25] <graft> gnomefreak: he's looking for a simple ftp server
[01:25] <gnomefreak> sorush20, backports in dapper or in breezy?
[01:26] <mwe> !info proftpd
[01:26] <ubotu> proftpd: (Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-22 (breezy), Packaged size: 347 kB, Installed size: 1044 kB
[01:26] <graft> proftpd doesn't seem to qualify as simple
[01:26] <amgad> oh brother, i just dont understand this loop module thing, can i create a new loop device so i can mount the iso??
[01:26] <sorush20> in dapper
[01:26] <gnomefreak> sorush20, backports are used in a release to get some packages from the latest release
[01:26] <sorush20> gnomefreak: dapper
[01:26] <Set_> proftpd was easy enough
[01:27] <mwe> Set_: or pure-ftpd maybe
[01:27] <gnomefreak> after they start on the next release after dapper like this summer maybe fall you will have backports in dapper
[01:27] <Set_> I used pure-ftpd in SUSE. couldn't figure out howto make /home/ftp root directory... lol
[01:27] <j3di> why does it seem like apache doesnt work
[01:27] <j3di> ...
[01:27] <Set_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588 this seem to make proftpd easy
[01:27] <mwe> j3di: how so?
[01:27] <sorush20> gnomefreak: so if i have dapper repositories main universe multiverse restricted then I don't need a backport right..?
[01:27] <DeskDevil> hi are there any german channels?
[01:27] <mwe> Set_: there's the gproftpd
[01:28] <j3di> i try to hit the box from another comp via browser and get the finger..
[01:28] <gnomefreak> sorush20, dont need you mean cant have
[01:28] <j3di> almost like apache aint runnin
[01:28] <sorush20> gnomefreak: yes I meant can't have. that is it
[01:28] <gnomefreak> sorush20, the only repos that work in dapper are main uni and multiverse
[01:28] <AdTheRat> I'm having a fairly major problem with php5 when I try to access any php file, nothing is loaded. Yet html is fine.
[01:28] <graft> j3di: can you get any services at all?
[01:28] <sorush20> gnomefreak: what about restricted..
[01:29] <gnomefreak> no backports no extras no OOo
[01:29] <j3di> yeha.. ssh , ftp, appletalk :)
[01:29] <gnomefreak> sorush20, yes just the reg repos
[01:29] <j3di> but no dice on http
[01:29] <graft> and apache is running
[01:29] <sorush20> is ubuntu running money collection ?
[01:29] <graft> sorush20: ps -ef | grep money_collection
[01:30] <mwe> j3di: it's not a firewall issue or your isp messing?
[01:30] <j3di> no firewall issue
[01:30] <j3di> i cant hit it via local lan
[01:30] <amgad> guys, nobody can help??????????
[01:30] <gnomefreak> sorush20, you may have issues getting it to run in dapper
[01:30] <graft> j3di: can yo uhit it from the same box?
[01:30] <mwe> j3di: not even localhost?
[01:30] <Johnny0> LMAO
[01:30] <Johnny0> graft: there is only the ATI drivers for this card
[01:31] <graft> what? no way
[01:31] <j3di> its command line..
[01:31] <graft> ati radeon X300?
[01:31] <Johnny0> yeah way graft
[01:31] <mwe> j3di: yes w3m localhost
[01:31] <graft> that's what i'm running and i'm using the radeon driver
[01:31] <Johnny0> do I need to enter this in manually ?
[01:31] <j3di> 192.168.13.23
[01:31] <mwe> j3di: _is_ apache indeed started?
[01:31] <j3di> w3m: Can't load 127.0.0.1.
[01:31] <sorush20> I'm trying to build the latest version of kopete but i keep getting the message that I need to have usermake rather than automake. If I install usermake instead of automake will all other programs use that?
[01:31] <graft> Johnny0: yeah, edit your xorg.conf
[01:32] <j3di> how can i check and see if its started
[01:32] <Johnny0> k - paste me the exact text I need
[01:32] <mwe> j3di: sudo netstat -ntlp and confirm it's running
[01:32] <graft> um
[01:32] <lsuactiafner> what files are the subtitle files on a dvd?
[01:32] <graft> too much work... just find the line that says Driver    "ati"
[01:32] <Johnny0> k - I am there
[01:33] <lightbright> gnomefreak: www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc/linux.html  <-- NOT Found
[01:33] <gnomefreak> hold on
[01:33] <gnomefreak> it might be htm
[01:33] <graft> change "ati" to "radeon"
[01:33] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok
[01:33] <felipe_> Hello, anyone uses ruby around here? I need a hand installing it...
[01:33] <j3di> hmm i dont see it
[01:33] <gnomefreak> ill paste the sources list on pastebin
[01:33] <mwe> j3di: then start it
[01:33] <j3di> cant i make it auto run at startup?
[01:33] <mwe> j3di: sudo /etc/init.d/apache start
[01:33] <j3di> how do i start it?
[01:33] <mwe> ^^^^
[01:34] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok and Ill copy and paste your and then do apt-get update
[01:34] <fraggsta> another point, mplayer doesn't seem to be packaged for PowerPC other than at marillat
[01:34] <mwe> j3di: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start rather
[01:34] <fraggsta> and package dependencies won't let me install it from there
[01:34] <sorush20> how do I tell what version of of a program a relaease has just from its name like for example the kopete pacakge in dapper here http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kopete&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[01:35] <graft> sorush20: apt-cache show kopete will tell you
[01:35] <regisgs> hello
[01:35] <graft> or you can install a program called 'apt-show-versions'
[01:36] <j3di> no dice
[01:36] <j3di> c
[01:36] <sorush20> graft: I was talking about dapper packagees.
[01:36] <j3di> no dice
[01:36] <theine> sorush20, "apt-cache policy kopete" is also quite handy
[01:36] <gnomefreak> lightbright, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6933
[01:36] <graft> sorush20: so was i!
[01:36] <mwe> j3di: how so?
[01:37] <j3di> i still cant see it
[01:37] <gnomefreak> lightbright, make me happy make sure ther eis no cdrom repo please
[01:37] <mwe> j3di: can't you start it?
[01:37] <j3di> and its still not in netstat
[01:37] <mwe> j3di: did it give an error when you tried starting it?
[01:37] <j3di> no error
[01:37] <graft> annoyingly, apache will do that
[01:37] <j3di> it just hopped to the next line
[01:37] <sorush20> graft: I haven't upgraded to dapper yet so I don't have apt updated to the dapper repositories will it still work?
[01:37] <graft> just die with no error
[01:37] <lightbright> gnomefreak: what?  im going to paste exactly what you got. so why worry about cdrom repo?
[01:37] <mwe> j3di: check the logs
[01:37] <graft> sorush20: ah... in that case... um
[01:37] <graft> i don't know, actually
[01:37] <j3di> apache 1.3 never gave me hell
[01:38] <gnomefreak> lightbright, people miss it becase they think its a comment
[01:38] <lightbright> gnomefreak: do you have any cdrom reops ion that?
[01:38] <theine> sorush20, don't you actually get all the information you're asking for from packages.ubuntu.com
[01:38] <graft> j3di: so why are you leaving it?
[01:38] <mark_> how do i stop terminal from being the automatic browser as oposed to let say firefox
[01:38] <j3di> fuck. where are the error logs
[01:38] <lightbright> gnomefreak: where in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6933 is there a cdrom repo?
[01:38] <gnomefreak> nope not a 1 but as i said people miss the cd repo because they thinks its a comment
[01:38] <mark_> it seems since i installed opera .... it had defaulted to terminal instead
[01:38] <Seveas> j3di, /var/log :)
[01:39] <j3di> when i went to install apache.. the only option aptitude had was apache2
[01:39] <graft> j3di: /var/log/apache*/error.log, usu
[01:39] <gnomefreak> lightbright, just look in your list not in pastebin for it
[01:39] <lightbright> gnomefreak: if I copy and paste yours exactly as is, then type sudo apt-get update, I shouldnt get any errors, right? :P
[01:39] <graft> erm... ubuntu def. has apache 1.3
[01:39] <gnomefreak> lightbright, i dont get any
[01:39] <mark_> i tried to reset it in preferred devices but it doesn't seem to change anyting
[01:39] <lightbright> gnomefreak: my list?  i deleted my old sources.list and pasted yours!
[01:39] <Seveas> graft, no
[01:39] <Seveas> apache is unsupported
[01:39] <Seveas> apache2 is supported
[01:39] <graft> i'm running it right now...
[01:39] <purpleheart_USMC> why can't i get totem to play dvd's?
[01:39] <gnomefreak> lightbright, look the binary error you are getting is from cd rom repo if you beleve it or not that i know for a fact
[01:39] <garry> mark_, System/Preferrred applications.
[01:39] <mjr> !dvd
[01:40] <mark_> did it garry
[01:40] <j3di> error.log is empty
[01:40] <mark_> it changed nothing
[01:40] <gnomefreak> if you dont wanna beleive me thats fine
[01:40] <graft> it's in universe, maybe
[01:40] <garry> mark_ :)
[01:40] <mjr> !tell purpleheart_USMC about dvd
[01:40] <mark_> i used gnomefreak 's and it worked for me
[01:40] <j3di> should i downgrade?
[01:40] <theine> mark_, what do you actually mean by `automatic browser'? A terminal is not a browser...
[01:40] <mark_> well
[01:40] <CosmoDad> since the last kernel upgrade, my laptop won't reconfigure my network after returning from suspend-to-ram although I still have ifplugd configured in /etc/default/acpi-support. Any ideas?
[01:40] <mark_> if i am to right click a link
[01:40] <gnomefreak> mark_, i test mine a few times a day they will always work :)
[01:41] <Miyomei> Is there a way to transfer files to my MP3 player from Linux?
[01:41] <sorush20> anyone here under the age of 10?
[01:41] <Hendikins|Work> Highly unlikely
[01:41] <mark_> and click open in browser
[01:41] <gnomefreak> im 6 :( lol
[01:41] <theine> mark_, then a terminal opens??
[01:41] <mark_> it opens it in terminal
[01:41] <sorush20> Miyomei: what  mp3 player do you have?
[01:41] <graft> well, if apache2 is supported and 1.3 is not, then you might run into trouble later installing adjuncts
[01:41] <mark_> yea
[01:41] <timfrost> gnomefreak, has lightbright done 'sudo apt-get update' since pasting the sources.list?
[01:41] <lightbright> gnomefreak: this is what I get using YOUR sources.list.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6934
[01:41] <Miyomei> sorush20, Creative Zen Touch.
[01:41] <lightbright> timfrost: yes
[01:41] <theine> mark_, the webpage opens in a terminal?
[01:41] <mark_> yea
[01:41] <mark_> lol
[01:41] <sorush20> !creative
[01:41] <ubotu> sorush20: Wish i knew
[01:41] <illicit> I'm 7.5 and pi/3rds
[01:41] <mark_> no graphics
[01:41] <mark_> but its all there
[01:42] <mark_> kinda like surfing with a palm pilot
[01:42] <Miyomei> !creative ?
[01:42] <gnomefreak> lightbright, last time get the damn cd rom repo out of your list now
[01:42] <mark_> lol
[01:42] <ubotu> Miyomei: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:42] <lightbright> Seveas: I am soooo confused, any ideas?  Why when I use gnomefreak  and your sources.list I get these errors at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6934 ?  PLEASE for my health, explain :)
[01:42] <j3di> i could give a #$%#$ is 1.3 isn't supported so long as it worked.. hehehehe
[01:42] <gnomefreak> lightbright, your fighting with me dont
[01:42] <gnomefreak> just do it
[01:42] <lightbright> gnomefreak: WHAT cd rom repo!  I pasted your sourceslist
[01:42] <graft> well, j3di then downgrade
[01:42] <gnomefreak> lightbright, open you sources.list now
[01:42] <lightbright> gnomefreak: remove WHAT cdrom repo?  i deleted my sources.list and replaced it totally with yours!!
[01:42] <lightbright> gnomefreak: its open
[01:43] <Miyomei> ubotu: Eh?
[01:43] <theine> mark_, very strange behaviour...
[01:43] <gnomefreak> lightbright,  listen to me this is the last time you will be helped by me
[01:43] <ubotu> Miyomei: Are you on ritalin?
[01:43] <Miyomei> Bot. -_-
[01:43] <mark_> very
[01:43] <gnomefreak> now at the very very top of it do you see anything that says 5.10
[01:43] <gerald> Hello
[01:43] <graft> Miyomei: does your mp3 player come with special software or what-not?
[01:44] <Miyomei> Yes, unfortunately.
[01:44] <gerald> Madel malunhao requesting
[01:44] <TuxOtaku> heellpp! GRUB won't start!
[01:44] <lightbright> gnomefreak:  NO!  there is no 5.10 that appears anywhere in it!  in fact the verry top says: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[01:44] <gerald> Buang ka!
[01:44] <graft> did you try just mounting it as a USB drive and copying mp3s to it?
[01:44] <graft> woohoo! batman!
[01:44] <Madz> animal ka!!!!!!
[01:44] <mark_> i can always copy and paste the url in my browser
[01:44] <Miyomei> I have no clue how to get USB devices to work.
[01:44] <batman> hello does anyone know where i can get libdvdcss2?
[01:44] <lightbright> gnomefreak: why are you so nasty?  im trying to tell you there is NO 5.10 or cd repo!  my sources, list was deleted and totally replaced 100% with yours
[01:44] <graft> nana nana nana nana nana nana na! batman!
[01:44] <gnomefreak> lightbright,  now look through the list for anything that says 5.10 (or take the cd out of the drive
[01:44] <mark_> it just seems weird that it should open in terminal
[01:44] <Miyomei> This is only my second day of using Linux. ;p
[01:44] <garry> tell! TuxOtaku about grub
[01:45] <NCLife> is there a good documentation about permissions around? the one on the wiki didnt help me and im very confused with them
[01:45] <lightbright> gnomefreak: I dont have any CD in the drive and the sources.list does NOT have anything that says 5.10
[01:45] <graft> oh... well crap... getting USB devices to work sucks
[01:45] <gnomefreak> lightbright, mine works fine or i wouldnt be having updates
[01:45] <sorush20> Miyomei: install gnomad see if it will work.
[01:45] <TuxOtaku> !tell TuxOtaku about grub
[01:45] <gnomefreak> lightbright, open synaptic after you close that
[01:45] <garry> :)
[01:45] <sorush20> Miyomei: do not give up try to search for creative zen in the ubuntuforums.com you'll find a way..
[01:45] <batman> anyone know of the new lib i need for dvd playback?
[01:46] <sorush20> Miyomei: you do not' want to go back to the world of virus filled and spyware systems..
[01:46] <lightbright> gnomefreak: i have tried to tell you very nicely that 5.10 does not even appear once
[01:46] <Miyomei> sorush20, It seems Gnomad2 supports my player.
[01:46] <Miyomei> Thanks graft and sorush20.
[01:46] <DayTurnsNight> batman, how's robin ?
[01:46] <lightbright> gnomefreak: it keeps saying: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[01:46] <sorush20> batman: libdvdcss, and other files .. there is big as comprehensive how to on the wiki restricted
[01:46] <garry> Ye can see it by doing System/About Ubuntu
[01:46] <TuxOtaku> stupid grub...i wanted to install a new splashscreen, and i was told to modify the menu.lst file...now grub hangs indefinately...thank god for liveCDs
[01:46] <theine> lightbright, 5.10 will appear when you look at the repositories from within synaptic
[01:46] <gnomefreak> lightbright, look open synaptic in synaptic click on tools or edit or something and you will see repositories open it and tell me what you see
[01:46] <lightbright> gnomefreak: and Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:47] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok
[01:47] <lightbright> hang on
[01:47] <sorush20> Miyomei: I didn't really know my self but just a quick serach revealed the name.
[01:47] <gnomefreak> lightbright, binary-i386 is the cd
[01:47] <j3di> ok so heres a question.. how do you downgrade?
[01:47] <batman> sorush20, where can i fidn that at?
[01:47] <gnomefreak> thats the only thing that is binary that the repos get
[01:47] <theine> gnomefreak, from the error he posted, it doesn't appear to be a problem eith his sources.list...
[01:47] <eidolon> hey folks - this is my first time working with ubuntu.  i just installed dapper (flight-2), looks okay, but i just did an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, and the upgrade isshowing me 401 upgraded, need to get 248meg of archives, including what looks like the enxteir xorg server.  does this sound right?
[01:48] <gnomefreak> theine, what are you thinking?
[01:48] <graft> eidolon: yeah, sounds right
[01:48] <sorush20> batman:  !libdvdcss
[01:48] <eidolon> okay.
[01:48] <theine> gnomefreak, maybe a server side error
[01:48] <sorush20> !libdvdcss
[01:48] <ubotu> libdvdcss is, like, totally, DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:48] <batman> !libdvdcss
[01:48] <gnomefreak> to me it looks like its trying to read the cdrom for universe
[01:48] <sorush20> batman: did you see
[01:48] <NCLife> whenever i copy something from a cd to my disk i only get rx permissions, and no w.
[01:48] <gnomefreak> theine, they are my repos
[01:48] <AdTheRat> Hmm..
[01:48] <gnomefreak> mine work fine
[01:48] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok synaptic is open!  and I opened the repositories
[01:48] <lightbright> gnomefreak: now what?
[01:48] <sorush20> any one here gay
[01:48] <sorush20> ?
[01:48] <gnomefreak> lightbright, what is the first thing you see
[01:49] <theine> gnomefreak, I don't think so as it fails to fetch "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz"
[01:49] <theine> gnomefreak, which should exist really
[01:49] <lightbright> gnomefreak: Breezy Badger (binary)
[01:49] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:49] <lightbright> gnomefreak: now what?
[01:49] <graft> that file is definitely there
[01:49] <graft> i can browse to it...
[01:49] <garry> NCLife tried right-click and changing permissions?
[01:49] <gnomefreak> lightbright, is there a check near it?
[01:50] <theine> lightbright, since when are you getting these errors?
[01:50] <lightbright> gnomefreak: a check?  as in tick?
[01:50] <purpleheart_USMC> I have libdvdcss, but still, no dvd playback with totem...
[01:50] <gnomefreak> yes lightbright
[01:50] <HCl> i use enlightenment as my window manager, how can i add extra programs to be started when my enlightenment session starts..?
[01:50] <lightbright> theine: after 5months using Ubuntu my FIRST day ever getting these errors
[01:50] <NCLife> garry, yeah.. but now everytime i login to my user account i get a warning message about having wrong permissions on my home folder
[01:50] <cubikdice> whats the name of the package for installing apache with php together...if any
[01:50] <lightbright> gnomefreak: there is no tick on any of the 12 that appear
[01:50] <theine> lightbright, since when in minutes?
[01:50] <lightbright> theine: since 3 hours ago
[01:50] <doskey-07> .co.id
[01:51] <gnomefreak> are the boxes there?
[01:51] <vincenz> yeah it was a corruped cd, base package installation is much faster now
[01:51] <lightbright> gnomefreak: what boxes?
[01:51] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:51] <lightbright> gnomefreak: I dont see any boxes!
[01:51] <theine> lightbright, please try this: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[01:51] <lightbright> gnomefreak: why are you laughing?
[01:51] <garry> NCLife Strange, its like you changed the permissions on the entire folder.
[01:52] <lightbright> theine: yea it downloads
[01:52] <gnomefreak> lightbright, do you see settings?
[01:52] <sorush20> purpleheart_USMC: I think you have to follow the instructions on this page anyone who wants to setup a multimedia system... a dvd palyback doesn't have its own packages it works by using bits and pieces of other technologies.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=restricted&titlesearch=Titles
[01:52] <theine> lightbright, hmm, ok, try "apt-get update" again...
[01:52] <lightbright> gnomefreak: yes settings at bottom
[01:52] <Miyomei> Okay, noob question. I unpacked the .tar.gz archive for Gnomad2. How do I actually install it?
[01:52] <gnomefreak> ok click that
[01:52] <NCLife> garry, :S if i remember well, i just selected all the docs and gave them rwx permission
[01:52] <gnomefreak> lightbright, than click show all or something like that
[01:52] <j3di> how do i downgrade a package?
[01:52] <gnomefreak> show enabled or show  something
[01:53] <sorush20> Miyomei: since there is no .exe files you have to use three simple little words..
[01:53] <sorush20> I
[01:53] <graft> Miyomei: it's in the ubuntu repos, don't bother with that shit
[01:53] <sorush20> LOve
[01:53] <sorush20> You
[01:53] <lightbright> gnomefreak: there is no show all option there
[01:53] <batman> sorush20, the repositories on those sites i get a 404
[01:53] <gnomefreak> lightbright, are there 3 boxes that are not ticked?
[01:53] <sorush20> graft: gnomad2 is not in repositores
[01:53] <batman> that site*
[01:53] <woodgrain> gnomefreak, does gnome have the hide/show desktop functionality that os X has?
[01:53] <graft> sorush20: it is in dapper...
[01:54] <sorush20> batman: did you read the instructions
[01:54] <lightbright> gnomefreak: no
[01:54] <batman> sorush20, yes
[01:54] <gnomefreak> woodgrain, i dont use OS x
[01:54] <lightbright> gnomefreak: I dont see any tick on any of the 12
[01:54] <sorush20> graft: Miyomei is not using dapper he is a noob
[01:54] <graft> what, noobs can't use dapper?
[01:54] <graft> mrng
[01:54] <sorush20> batman: did you add the pgp keys?
[01:54] <theine> lightbright, If you ask me, I'd say everything's fine on your side and the errors you're getting are actually caused on the server side...
[01:54] <Miyomei> It's only my second day with Linux/Ubuntu.
[01:54] <gnomefreak> lightbright,  are you in the settings place still?
[01:54] <Miyomei> I'm quite the noob.
[01:55] <lightbright> theine: this is the errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6935
[01:55] <woodgrain> gnomefreak, you know what I mean though.  I have a little show-dsktop icon in lower left.  Is there one that does the opposite -- bring back what was on the desktop?
[01:55] <lightbright> theine: so I should do what?
[01:55] <lightbright> gnomefreak: yes
[01:55] <sorush20> Miyomei: you want to install from the source?
[01:55] <batman> sorush20, pgp keys?
[01:55] <woodgrain> gnomefreak, i don't use it either
[01:55] <gnomefreak> woodgrain, click it again
[01:55] <theine> lightbright, what country are you in?
[01:55] <graft> well, gnomad2 is in breezy/universe anyway
[01:55] <lightbright> gnomefreak: when I load synaptic it now says: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:55] <sorush20> batman: yes.. maybe Seveas should make them flash,
[01:55] <woodgrain> gnomefreak, man i am a dumb blonde.
[01:55] <Miyomei> Nope. I just found it in Synaptic. ;p
[01:55] <lightbright> theine: Australia
[01:55] <gnomefreak> lightbright, go into prefferences in the repos list
[01:55] <graft> see :P
[01:56] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok
[01:56] <garry> NCLife yes, that might do it. It might have changed more than the files you copied. Somehow, ye need to reverse that. Might create another account,  and compare, its a bother tho. Since it's a warning, it might not be so serious.
[01:56] <gnomefreak> do you now see 3 un ticked boxes?
[01:56] <sorush20> Miyomei: are you in kde?
[01:56] <lightbright> gnomefreak: there is no preferrences option!  only autherntican and settings
[01:56] <Miyomei> Gnome.
[01:56] <theine> lightbright, try to use another mirror, i.e. replace http://archive.ubuntu.com with http://au.archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:56] <gnomefreak> settings lightbright should bring up a lil box with 6 lines in it with boxes next to them
[01:57] <lightbright> theine: ill try that ok
[01:57] <sorush20> Miyomei: go to the directory that you extracted the files to then press F4, that will bring up a terminal for that directory
[01:57] <NCLife> garry, i have another problem too.. i recently made another user account and now when i mount my ipod owner is the new account, yesterday i tried changing it with sudo chown my_account_name /media/ipod and worked nice, today whoever it doesnt want to..
[01:57] <lightbright> gnomefreak: there is no preferrences option!  only authentication and settings
[01:57] <Miyomei> I already installed it from Synaptic. ;p
[01:57] <sorush20> Miyomei: just type ./configure
[01:57] <HCl> i use enlightenment as my window manager, how can i add extra programs to be started when my enlightenment session starts..?
[01:57] <Miyomei> But I'll keep that in mind for future items.
[01:57] <Korupt> anybody know how to get WEP working using wpa_supplicant?
[01:57] <Miyomei> Now, for some reason, I'm getting an error in the program.
[01:57] <gnomefreak> lightbright, in the settings option it should bring up a box in middle of screen with 6 settings in it
[01:57] <lightbright> gnomefreak: i open synaptic, then chose Settings/Repositries
[01:57] <Miyomei> "Could not open jukebox:
[01:57] <Miyomei> usb_set_configuration: Operation not permitted"
[01:58] <lightbright> gnomefreak: yes, 6 boxes
[01:58] <gnomefreak> good do they all have ticks in them?
[01:58] <graft> Miyomei: could always run as root
[01:58] <lightbright> gnomefreak: not all of them no
[01:58] <garry> I don't know about ipod playing, but does the ipod have a mount point like would be in fstab?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> put ticks in all of them
[01:58] <lightbright> gnomefreak: only 3 of them
[01:58] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok
[01:59] <gnomefreak> lightbright, want all 6 ticked
[01:59] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok now all are ticked
[01:59] <lightbright> gnomefreak: and now?
[01:59] <Miyomei> Ah, that worked. Thanks graft.
[01:59] <gnomefreak> lightbright, take the tick out of the 5.10 repo at toip
[01:59] <gnomefreak> top*
[01:59] <theconartist> i have a problemo!!!
[02:00] <Toma-> theconartist: what is ito?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> theconartist, so do most people that come in here
[02:00] <batman> sorush20, any idea where else i could get a repository for the files?
[02:00] <lightbright> gnomefreak: untick the very first one?
[02:00] <Miyomei> Okay, next problem. ;p
[02:00] <gnomefreak> lightbright, what does the very first one say
[02:00] <Miyomei> Firefox in Ubuntu/Synaptic is version 1.0.7.
[02:00] <Miyomei> How do I update?
[02:00] <lightbright> gnomefreak: untick the Breexy Badger (source)?
[02:00] <graft> um
[02:00] <Miyomei> Firefox wont do it automatically like it did in Windows.
[02:00] <gnomefreak> the binary repo
[02:00] <bimberi> !ff1.5
[02:00] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:01] <gnomefreak> untick it
[02:01] <lightbright> gnomefreak: the very top says "Breezy Badger (source)
[02:01] <garry> NCLife whenever I have had issues whwer regular accounts could not mount something, I cured the issue with something like this in fstab /dev/sda1       /mnt/Sata1   ntfs ro,umask=0722,noauto  0       0 the part about umask=0722 made it mount for all users.
[02:01] <sorush20> batman: try form the terminal then that way you can see what is wrong with the repositories..
[02:01] <lightbright> gnomefreak: the very top says Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger (source)
[02:01] <sorush20> batman: type sudo apt-get update
[02:01] <gnomefreak> lightbright, does it say binary?
[02:01] <lightbright> gnomefreak: sorry i said the 2nd one
[02:01] <lightbright> gnomefreak: the very top 1 says Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger (binary)
[02:01] <gnomefreak> lightbright, does the first one say binary in it anywhere?
[02:01] <B_166-ER-X> i know how to add something to 'Session' if i want it at startup, but what if i need it to start after everything (asmn, by default, at startup start before the tray is openned then it cannot be iconified)  i saw there i an 'order' anyone knows how that works ?
[02:01] <batman> sorush20, i did both of the above
[02:02] <lightbright> gnomefreak: yes sorry the the very top 1 says Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger (binary)
[02:02] <gnomefreak> lightbright, do any of the other ones say 5.10 in them?
[02:02] <lightbright> gnomefreak: and the 2nd one says Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger (source)
[02:02] <gnomefreak> untick the first one and than re-tick it
[02:02] <sorush20> batman: try using this or jsut post all your souce to the paset bin .. you don know how to use the paste bin?
[02:02] <lightbright> gnomefreak: they ALL say 5.10 but the very last one doesnt, it says backports
[02:02] <batman> sorush20, says package is not available but referred to as another package
[02:02] <Set_> I'm planning to remotely administer this box. What do I need to prepare, so that the box will boot and I be able to login into gnome
[02:03] <NCLife> garry, so that will get the owner of /media/ipod to be both accounts?
[02:03] <lightbright> gnomefreak: Ok i unticked and ticked and now its downloading new data
[02:03] <gnomefreak> good
[02:04] <sorush20> batman: try to use these http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6936
[02:04] <gnomefreak> let me know what it says
[02:04] <lightbright> gnomefreak: it stopped with an error: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[02:04] <crimsun> Set_: once Ubuntu is installed, you'll want to install openssh-server
[02:04] <batman> sorush20, http://pastebin.com/500155
[02:04] <gnomefreak> good
[02:04] <sorush20> !repositories
[02:04] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:04] <lightbright> gnomefreak: good? :P
[02:04] <gnomefreak> lightbright, this is a good thing :)
[02:04] <lightbright> gnomefreak: hmm ok :P
[02:04] <gnomefreak> lightbright, your not in us?
[02:04] <lightbright> gnomefreak: in Australia
[02:04] <butcherbird> Set_: if not over a lan take a look at freenx, otherwise I would just use ssh and x forwarding just my opinion
[02:04] <Set_> crimsun, done.
[02:05] <HCl> can anyone help me? i need a program to start when i start my enlightenment session.. how do i do that...?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> lightbright, the first repos you had was there a country code in them????
[02:05] <lightbright> gnomefreak: now what do I do?
[02:05] <Set_> it's all local. no ports are forwarded from my firewall to this box
[02:05] <gnomefreak> noiw he tells me hes in au :(
[02:05] <lightbright> gnomefreak: the first line in sources.list is: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[02:06] <batman> sorush20, i can get libdvdcss2 but do i need libdvdcss?
[02:06] <lightbright> gnomefreak: I told you before im in Australia
[02:06] <nipplesrulz> ive got /etc/network/interfaces configged same on the other machine as this one
[02:06] <nipplesrulz> but it refuses to pull up the internet somehow
[02:06] <lsuactiafner> wonder if its legal to sell 'windows 64bit' with 32bit code in it?
[02:06] <nipplesrulz> is there a way to reconfigure em from scratch? the file is the same on that one as this one and this one works fine.
[02:06] <lightbright> gnomefreak: remmber Seveas asked me as well
[02:06] <gnomefreak> make it look like //au.archive.ubuntu
[02:06] <lightbright> ok
[02:06] <gnomefreak> lightbright, no i wasnt here
[02:06] <nipplesrulz> is there a way to reconfigure this short of reinstalling?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> lightbright, put au in all of them
[02:06] <crimsun> batman: libdvdcss is a virtual package that libdvdcss2 provides.
[02:06] <Set_> I want something like vnc, as it's all local and I have no intentions to open the different ports. can anyone point me on how I can setup a vnc server that lets me connect to gdm?
[02:07] <lsuactiafner> also, how do i bypass the sony drm that throws errors to my dvdrom @ 16mb?
[02:07] <gnomefreak> hes half way around the world no wonder why mine didnt work :(
[02:07] <lightbright> gnomefreak: its now: deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[02:07] <batman> criumsun, i have libdvdcss2 installed but it won't play the dvd o.O
[02:07] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok brb
[02:07] <graft> gnomefreak: why should that matter?
[02:07] <gnomefreak> lightbright, do it to all of them
[02:07] <HCl> does anyone know how i can make a program start up automatically when i start my enlightenment session? :/
[02:08] <gnomefreak> graft, without hte country code in it it will direct you to the closest server
[02:08] <sorush20> batman: I thin what you need to install is easybreezy
[02:08] <vbhanu> Anyone here using nbsmtp?
[02:08] <Set_> !xdmcp
[02:08] <gnomefreak> if his closest server is done mine wont be
[02:08] <graft> gnomefreak: ah... didn't know that
[02:08] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Set_
[02:08] <sorush20> join the easybreezy channel and they have a script that addes all these multimedia stuff with out you haveing to do it manually.
[02:08] <vbhanu> What should be the format of the message on STDIN that should be given to nbsmtp to send the maik
[02:08] <graft> Set_: what's wrong with vncserver?
[02:08] <vbhanu> *mail?
[02:08] <B_166-ER-X> i installed unreal 2004, with a valid buyed serial, all went ok, and at the end of the install its saying : to play type 'ut2004'   but ..ut2004 is an unknown command :| someone could heko ?
[02:08] <lightbright> gnomefreak: done, now?
[02:08] <batman> sorush20, where can i find that i do sudo apt-get install and it can't find it
[02:08] <Set_> not installed I guess. my mistake. sorry
[02:09] <gnomefreak> save and run sudo apt-get update
[02:09] <woodgrain> why do I need fakeroot to run java?
[02:09] <sorush20> batman: sorry join #easyubuntu
[02:09] <gnomefreak> lightbright, im sorry it wasnt bring you to the same server as i am going to
[02:09] <lightbright> gnomefreak: Err http://au.security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release.gpg
[02:09] <sorush20> batman: what?
[02:09] <damasta> B_166-ER-X, run sudo find / -name ut2004 -print
[02:09] <lightbright>   Could not resolve 'au.security.ubuntu.com'
[02:09] <graft> woodgrain: huh? who told you you did?
[02:09] <batman> sorush20, join that what for?
[02:09] <gnomefreak> what else does it say light
[02:10] <woodgrain> graft, the ubuntu doc. site.
[02:10] <lightbright> gnomefreak: its finisging now, ill let you know in a tick
[02:10] <vincenz> This is odd
[02:10] <Set_> !vncserver
[02:10] <ubotu> Set_: I give up, what is it?
[02:10] <woodgrain> graft, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c249
[02:10] <vincenz> ubunut never prompted me for a root password
[02:10] <lightbright> gnomefreak: im using modem :)
[02:10] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[02:10] <vincenz> what is my root password!!!
[02:10] <gnomefreak> dial up?
[02:10] <bimberi> woodgrain: you need it to install java
[02:11] <damasta> vincenz, you should run sudo passwd root
[02:11] <woodgrain> bimberi, I have it ... what does it do?
[02:11] <damasta> then set the password
[02:11] <gnomefreak> and i thought 7hr for updates were bad :(
[02:11] <graft> oh... i always installed java by hand...
[02:11] <lightbright> gnomefreak: yah :P
[02:11] <irvin> !tell vincenz about sudo
[02:11] <damasta> but try to avoid loggin in as root
[02:11] <massimo> i've just finished to install ubuntu 5.1 but if i insert dual layer dvd i can't see data, if i insert normal DVD it's work . someone could help me?
[02:11] <lightbright> vincenz: same as what you told it
[02:11] <Set_> I installed vncserver, but I get no option for it in Services Settings and Login Screen Setup says remote login is disabled(under general and greeter)
[02:11] <gnomefreak> downloading #1066 :)
[02:11] <woodgrain> c
[02:11] <NCLife> does someone knows why my ipod has another user as owner, or how can i change that so its owner is my main account?
[02:12] <sorush20> batman: don't get feedup after all you are batman..to here http://robotgeek.org/blog/easybreezy/ and then you can download the alpha verison then you will be able to install and add all the multimedia functionallities..
[02:12] <lightbright> gnomefreak: keeps saying: Could not resolve 'au.security.ubuntu.com'
[02:12] <gnomefreak> lightbright, and you put au in all of them?
[02:12] <bimberi> woodgrain: it simulates an environment so that a process thinks it's running as root ( i think :P )
[02:12] <lightbright> gnomefreak: Err http://au.security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages
[02:12] <lightbright>   Could not resolve 'au.security.ubuntu.com'
[02:12] <damasta> Set_, under system, settings, edit remote desktop
[02:12] <lightbright> gnomefreak: yes ALL of them
[02:12] <NCLife> ive got that problem since i made a new user account, now my ipod is owned by this new user account
[02:12] <B_166-ER-X> damasta  it list the dir where its installed, and the ut2004 command in it... but i already tried it... : it just loads the splash screen than hangs
[02:13] <woodgrain> bimberi, that's what I'm learning.
[02:13] <vincenz> thank you
[02:13] <gnomefreak> try taking au out and putting de in
[02:13] <vincenz> how about wifi... it has an ip but I can't surf
[02:13] <lightbright> gnomefreak: it seems Australians are not fully supported
[02:13] <gnomefreak> de is almost never down
[02:13] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok brb
[02:13] <gnomefreak> i will be right back also
[02:13] <timfrost> gnonmefreak, lightbright, you DO NOT put au. or de. for security.ubuntu.com
[02:13] <damasta> B_166-ER-X, when I had it installed, it would take awhile. If it takes too long, run killall ut2004 and maybe try again. You have a 3d card, right? And sound is working?
[02:14] <NCLife> ive tried with "sudo chown NCLife /media/ipod" and it does nothing
[02:14] <NCLife> any suggestions?
[02:14] <Linfanguin> I am using ubuntu and i have a treo 650. How do i transfer music files to it?
[02:14] <lightbright> timfrost: NOW you tell us :)
[02:14] <lightbright> timfrost: so I put au on ALL except for security?
[02:14] <Linfanguin> What software to use.
[02:15] <butcherbird> NCLife: maybe chown -r ?
[02:15] <Set_> damasta, thanks a lot! :))
[02:15] <damasta> Is it working?
[02:15] <Set_> yep
[02:15] <Miyomei> Hrm. How do I get Ubuntu to recognize and install my USB Gamepad?
[02:16] <Korupt> is there a way to bypass wpa_supplicant for certain APs?
[02:16] <timfrost> lightbright, yes, use au.archive.ubunu.com for breezy, breezy-backports and breezy-updates, but security.ubuntu.com for breezy-security
[02:16] <Set_> now, so I set login manager to automatically login my user, and have remote desktop configured to let me login, if I provide a password
[02:16] <bimberi>  all human ills, which, when the box was opened, escaped
[02:16] <bimberi>  and spread over the earth."
[02:16] <lightbright> timfrost: can you pls look at my sources.list now?
[02:16] <Set_> the service is not available out to my internet (no port forwarding from my firewall).
[02:16] <NCLife> butcherbird, ill try.. so i have to put "sudo chown -r NCLife /media/ipod?
[02:16] <damasta> Miyomei, what kind of gamepad is it?
[02:16] <Set_> that equals a secure remote desktop sollution for my home network?
[02:17] <lightbright> timfrost: can you pls look at my sources.list now and tell me if it look alright to you?
[02:17] <vincenz> How do I get wireless networking to work
[02:17] <timfrost> lightbright, OK  what pastebin?
[02:17] <lightbright> timfrost: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6937
[02:17] <batman> sorush20, does this install a bunch of packages or what?
[02:17] <butcherbird> NCLife: capital -R i believe
[02:17] <firefly2442> how can I rescue my ubuntu installation, I installed Ubuntu, then Windows, to dual boot, now only windows boots
[02:17] <damasta> Set_, yeah, if you're just using it within, you should be okay....unless you don't trust your family :)
[02:17] <lightbright> timfrost: any changes needed?
[02:17] <NCLife> butcherbird, okayz
[02:17] <sorush20> batman: yes.. unless you want to do it manullay
[02:18] <gnomefreak> buotu tell firefly2442 about grub
[02:18] <B_166-ER-X> damasta it took a while...but it loaded i have a 3dcard yep, but i just upgraded mu cpu ...i never even knew there was an intro movie.. lol
[02:18] <jean> hi
[02:18] <timfrost> lightbright, that looks OK
[02:18] <stzack> anyone here knows where I can find this package?
[02:18] <jean> is this like theme hospital? http://www.rune-soft.com/englisch/Projektseiten/airline/bild9.html
[02:18] <butcherbird> NCLife: bear in mind that there are two butcherbirds that use this channel a pretty one and a smart one.  Im the pretty one
[02:18] <sorush20> firefly2442: I know you
[02:18] <gnomefreak> timfrost,  :(
[02:18] <batman> sorush20, kick ass i love you i want to kiss u
[02:18] <henry_> What is a good torrent program for Linux?
[02:18] <damasta> B_166-ER-X, have fun. It's a good game
[02:19] <NCLife> butcherbird,lol ok
[02:19] <vincenz> anyone?
[02:19] <sorush20> batman: I wish I could kiss you back.. are you a girl.. ?
[02:19] <firefly2442> sorush20, hello, from where?
[02:19] <B_166-ER-X> thankx :)
[02:19] <gnomefreak> henry_, the default one works good :)
[02:19] <batman> sorush20, fuck no
[02:19] <batman> lol
[02:19] <NCLife> butcherbird, um.. nothing happened
[02:19] <henry_> k...
[02:19] <vincenz> I set up my ip manually during install...but I want my wifi to use dhcp... cause right now I can't do networking
[02:19] <jean> henry_: best is bittornado...
[02:19] <lightbright> timfrost: ok ill try update now. brb
[02:19] <damasta> vincenz, I already gave you an answer. Scroll up
[02:19] <lightbright> timfrost:  want me to tell you the results?
[02:19] <gnomefreak> why did i keep missing that L(
[02:20] <gnomefreak> :(
[02:20] <sorush20> batman: go an kiss robin
[02:20] <batman> sorush20, have you ever tried to run an access point behind your computer?
[02:20] <vincenz> damasta: that's for root
[02:20] <garry> NCLife Sorry, got called away. It does allow other users to mount and use devices. am glad you are getting help. I think you, know more about Linux than I do and those helping you probably know more as well. Good luck to ye.
[02:20] <damasta> vincenz, sorry, you're asking another question now
[02:20] <NCLife> butcherbird, its strange, the command sudo chown NCLife /media/ipod worked great yesterday, but now it would do nothing
[02:20] <lightbright> gnomefreak: missing what?
[02:20] <batman> wireless*
[02:20] <sorush20> sorush20: yes I have
[02:20] <gnomefreak> the security
[02:20] <timfrost> lightbright, yes, keep us updated
[02:20] <jean> henry_: bittornado has more sttings your might need later.
[02:20] <sorush20> firefly2442: are you ali
[02:20] <batman> sorush20, any luck?
[02:20] <lightbright> timfrost:  ok brb doing apt-get update now
[02:20] <firefly2442> sorush20, nope, must be thinking of someone else
[02:21] <NCLife> thanks garry for your help
[02:21] <butcherbird> NCLife: sorry out of ideas.. you can use it fine as root right?
[02:21] <garry> NCLife welcome.
[02:21] <vincenz> how do I enable dhcp instead of fixed ip
[02:21] <damasta> vincenz, you can't change it in system, administration, networking?
[02:21] <vincenz> ah
[02:21] <vincenz> I'll look
[02:21] <sorush20> firefly2442: it is you yo've gone an f*cked the system I setup right.. I told you that xp doesn't detect sata on its own..
[02:21] <garry> !tell vincenz about dhcp
[02:21] <graft> NCLife: quick rundown of your problem?
[02:21] <NCLife> butcherbird, i havent tried, how do i run it as root?
[02:21] <sorush20> batman: I'm running a wireless home network nothing fancy
[02:22] <gnomefreak> sorush20, winxp doesnt detect linux though
[02:22] <gumpish> dur... does ubuntu have net install isos? (<200MB)
[02:22] <gnomefreak> its bootlader doesnt atleast
[02:22] <gnomefreak> gumpish, yes
[02:22] <Toma-> gumpish: iirc, yeh
[02:22] <batman> sorush20, i meant like having 2 nics where as one getting the net and the other nic forwarding it to the wireless access point
[02:22] <vincenz> thx
[02:22] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell gumpish about install
[02:22] <NCLife> graft, i made a new user account, and now when i mount my ipod it has the new account as owner
[02:22] <butcherbird> NCLife: i would open whatever app youre using gtkpod or whatever using sudo.  if its permissions thing it should work fine then right?
[02:23] <sorush20> batman: sorry no..
[02:23] <lightbright> timfrost: NO errors now :)  you are a genius :)
[02:23] <gumpish> they don't appear to be linked from the download pages...
[02:23] <graft> NCLife: what's your fstab line look like?
[02:23] <sorush20> any ops here please
[02:23] <jean> Airline Tycoon Deluxe looks cool
[02:23] <lightbright> gnomefreak: no dont be hard on yourself!  you were ON the RIGHT track!  it all worked as you guided me, the ONLY thing I had to do was remove au from the securities!
[02:24] <lightbright> gnomefreak: so THANK you for all your patrience and help today!  I know it was a looong 1 hour helping me, yet at the end we succeeded
[02:24] <NCLife> butcherbird, i hope so, lol.. ill check
[02:24] <lysis> ok so i have two different partitions BOTH with breezy badger.  one is my live, one is my testing.   i remote in via SSH from work and will sometimes need to boot into the other one.   how can i reboot into a different partition without modifying the /boot/grub file?
[02:24] <gnomefreak> sorush20, try !ops
[02:24] <sorush20> guys why am I not registered yet
[02:24] <lightbright> timfrost:  and thanks!  you are great :)
[02:24] <NCLife> graft, where can i find my fstab line?
[02:24] <sorush20> !ops
[02:24] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, johndarkhorse or nalioth.
[02:24] <graft> NCLife: in /etc/fstab
[02:24] <gnomefreak> sorush20, if your not registered dont you think you should?
[02:24] <lightbright> timfrost: its worked until today, so why did I have to change to au today?  has something changed so Australians cant use the us servers anymore?
[02:24] <sorush20> gnomefreak: I am registerd .. I'm using chat.freenode.net
[02:24] <sorush20> gnomefreak: is that right?
[02:25] <lightbright> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6937  <-- this one WORKS :)
[02:25] <firefly2442> sorush20, you mean SATA and IDE????
[02:25] <Seveas> sorush20, ?
[02:25] <Amaranth> sorush20: What's up?
[02:25] <vincenz> hmm
[02:25] <lightbright> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6937  <-- this sources.list works for Australians in case you wanted to keep a note
[02:25] <vincenz> seems dhcp only gave me ipv6 not 4
[02:25] <vincenz> also
[02:25] <Seveas> sorush20, the !ops trigger is ONLY for channel problems
[02:25] <vincenz> not sure what to give as nameserver
[02:25] <lightbright> timfrost: you there?
[02:25] <Seveas> do NOT abuse it, next time is a ban
[02:25] <sorush20> Amaranth: I send personal messages to people.
[02:25] <gnomefreak> sorush20, thats not an ops problem :(
[02:25] <vincenz> (wireless router)
[02:25] <glick> excuse me how can i produce a kernel .config file from a running kernel for a new kernel?
[02:26] <lightbright> gnomefreak: you read my last few messages to you?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> Seveas, i told him to try it cause he was looking for an op
[02:26] <gnomefreak> lightbright, yes
[02:26] <cafuego> Where in gconf can i adjust the timing delay for the auto-hide/popup on the panels?
[02:26] <Seveas> gnomefreak, bad idea
[02:26] <Set_> I need an application to autostart. here is what the readme says: http://pastebin.com/500175
[02:26] <gnomefreak> yw sorry i was rough its one of those days
[02:26] <Seveas> cafuego, poke
[02:26] <cafuego> Seveas, peek
[02:26] <Amaranth> sorush20: /ns register <password>
[02:26] <lsuactiafner> glick : cat cat /proc/config.gz > config.gz ; gunzip config.gz
[02:26] <sorush20> /ns
[02:26] <timfrost> lightbright, archive.ubuntu.com is UK, not US.  And it seems that some step in the retrieval of the one Packages.gz file was failing, fro that repository.  I have had that happen to me for the NZ repository at times.  No explanation why
[02:26] <gnomefreak> i see that now Seveas but figured he was looking for op there was an issue
[02:26] <Amaranth> sorush20: then you need to type /ns idenitfy <password> every time you get on IRC
[02:26] <lsuactiafner> glick : or of that doesnt work check in /boot for a config file
[02:26] <lysis> can anybody help me with the grub / rebooting question i put above?
[02:27] <lightbright> gnomefreak: so everything you asked me to do was spot on, just needed to remove au from securities so you were on the right track! thanks very much, I deeply appreciate your help and patiencve today
[02:27] <NCLife> graft, hum.. i cant find my ipod on fstab
[02:27] <henry_> when I download with
[02:27] <henry_> the defualt one
[02:27] <lightbright> timfrost: ah ok!  so shall I keep the au. from now one seeing im in Auatralia anyway :P
[02:27] <Set_> !autostart
[02:27] <ubotu> Set_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:27] <henry_> i never get any kb/s
[02:27] <sorush20> Seveas: so free yet so restricted..  :-P
[02:27] <henry_> and get
[02:27] <sorush20> Amaranth: thanks
[02:27] <graft> NCLife, how do you normally mount it?
[02:27] <henry_> Problem Connecting to tracker.
[02:27] <timfrost> lightbright, yes.
[02:28] <lightbright> timfrost: ok thanks again, works great now
[02:28] <lightbright> timfrost:  are you a developer?
[02:28] <batman> sorush20, i have one more favor to ask.. i have a printer that needs to be installed o.O
[02:28] <kenv> Where would one go to get the codecs for totem.  I am new to Ubuntu and do not know how to watch mpg files with this OS.
[02:28] <Miyomei> Eek, damasta, didn't see your question. In reply: It's just a generic PSX-style USB gamepad.
[02:28] <Amaranth> sorush20: Your freedoms end when you step on someone else's. ;)
[02:28] <sorush20> batman: what printer do you have?
[02:28] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell kenv about codecs
[02:28] <WebLOCH> Hey guys, im about to destroy some data by accident if anyone can answer some partitioning questions I would be greatful!
[02:28] <sorush20> Amaranth: hm
[02:29] <vincenz> dhcp has trouble getting an ip.... and well...what do I put as dNS?   I have a wireless router at 192.168.1.1
[02:29] <NCLife> graft, i just connect it and i mount alone, right now it suppose to be mounted
[02:29] <glick> does anyone know how to produce a kernel .config file from the runnin kernel for a new one?
[02:29] <cobelloy> hi there all, does anyone know anything about iptables
[02:29] <lysis> kenv, you need to get the universe and multiverse repositories un-commented and then you can read the wiki about restricted formats.   wiki = http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:29] <batman> sorush20, lexmark x1185 printer/scanner combo
[02:29] <vincenz> laptop/wifi/ubuntu 5.10
[02:29] <gerald> hello
[02:29] <angel> hi!!!
[02:29] <Miyomei> Well, it seems he's gone.
[02:29] <angel> buang
[02:29] <lightbright> gnomefreak: are you upset with yourself that you missed the security idea about not having au in them?
[02:29] <gerald> goodbe kay bell na!
[02:29] <sorush20> batman: using kde ?
[02:29] <angel> gago
[02:29] <crimsun> glick: your current one exists at /boot/config-$(uname -r) . Copy it over and run ``make oldconfig''.
[02:29] <gerald> sige ha??
[02:29] <gerald> gaga ka
[02:29] <angel> haller
[02:29] <Miyomei> So how do I get my USB game pad to work?
[02:29] <gerald> madel and maribeth buagng
[02:29] <angel> ikaw rin
[02:29] <timfrost> lightbright, no - just an old hand at linux (moved to breezy with a new PC in November)
[02:29] <gnomefreak> lightbright, no im trying to get something fixed over here
[02:29] <glick> cool thanks crimsun
[02:29] <gerald> pisti mo tnana
[02:29] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok
[02:30] <lightbright> timfrost: ah I see
[02:30] <crimsun> oh boy.
[02:30] <batman> sorush20, i'm using whatever the default is installed
[02:30] <Seveas> stupid trolls
[02:30] <batman> sorush20, but i thnk its gnome
[02:31] <gnomefreak> same ip? =same house=can talk at home :(
[02:31] <cobelloy> hello, can anyone help me with iptables issues?
[02:31] <garry> !tell cobelloy about iptable
[02:31] <gnomefreak> ok im out ill see everyone tomorrow
[02:31] <gnomefreak> i hope
[02:31] <vincenz> Anyone have wifi skills?
[02:31] <vincenz> I'm having trouble with dhcp finding a lease
[02:31] <cobelloy> I keep getting this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=646032#post646032
[02:32] <NeonFlux> what kind of skills are you looking for?
[02:32] <crimsun> vincenz: open AP?
[02:32] <vincenz> crimsun: ??
[02:32] <crimsun> vincenz: describe the infrastructure
[02:32] <vincenz> ah
[02:32] <sorush20> batman: try to learn to do the leg work yourself just a quick search with the keywords lexmark x1185 ubuntu gives me this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714 see if it helps
[02:32] <batman> sorush20, the thing is that i did that before
[02:32] <vincenz> Dell D610 lattitude, ubuntu 5.10 fresh install, wifi, 2200 hardware (recognized), it gives me an Ipv6 address but DHCP won't work
[02:33] <garry> !tell vincenz about wifi
[02:33] <crimsun> vincenz: you need to be a lot more precise.
[02:33] <cafuego> vincenz: open, wep or wpa?
[02:33] <vincenz> wep
[02:34] <cafuego> vincenz: Did you set up the interface with the right key?
[02:34] <vincenz> yes
[02:34] <NeonFlux> is it the Wap ID case sensitive?
[02:35] <vincenz> not certain
[02:35] <WebLOCH> Can someone recommend a partitioning tool that I can use to resize my data partition and then resize my root partition to take up the freed space with?
[02:35] <glick> to compile a kernel i just to issue make dep and make bzImage right?
[02:35] <vincenz> it has the correct id
[02:35] <crimsun> make dep is not necessary.
[02:35] <glick> just make bzImage?
[02:36] <Mabus06> How should I partition my 160GB disk to install XP and Ubuntu on it?
[02:36] <crimsun> and modules if you selected anyhow.
[02:36] <crimsun> s/anyhow/any/
[02:36] <glick> make modules?
[02:36] <ksmurf> Mabus ... install xp first
[02:36] <cafuego> Mabus06: Depends on what you're going to do with XP and Linux.
[02:36] <garry> WebLOCH should be able to use gparted that comes with gnome.
[02:37] <WebLOCH> garry, i tried that but it failed to even resize the first partition, looked like it was doing something eventually all dialogues disappeared
[02:37] <vincenz> it's called eth1 not wlan0
[02:37] <Mabus06> cafuego, I want to use Windows for gaming, and Linux for everything else.
[02:37] <cafuego> Mabus06: I'd probably do 100GB XP, 10GB Linux /, 50GB /home, 1GB swap.
[02:37] <TuxOtaku> grub installs to the hard drive containing ubuntu, right?
[02:37] <glick> ima try to build a kernel
[02:37] <cafuego> Mabus06: Adjust the XP and /home depending on what you foresee as space needs. If it's just games, maybe 40GB will do for XP.
[02:38] <Mabus06> cafuego, I meant how. What do I install first, and what order do they need to be in?
[02:38] <Korupt> Seveas, have a minute?
[02:38] <cafuego> Mabus06: Install XP first.
[02:38] <cafuego> Korupt: seveas has gone to bed
[02:38] <vincenz> cafuego: it's called eth1 not wlan0... I followed the howto to no avail
[02:38] <cafuego> Mabus06: And put XP at the beginning of the drive.
[02:38] <vincenz> cafuego: try without passwd?
[02:38] <Mabus06> cafuego, and ubuntu can resize the partitions without deleting things on the windows one?
[02:38] <Korupt> vincenz, wifi probs?
[02:39] <vincenz> Korupt: yeah
[02:39] <garry> WebLOCH Well, if Gparted don't work, I dunno, might have to borrow partition magic or google for linux partition editors
[02:39] <vincenz> also not certain what to put as dns, seeing I have a router
[02:39] <batman> sorush20, what do i need to use the command alien?
[02:39] <WebLOCH> garry, partition magic runs on windows right ?
[02:39] <timfrost> TuxOtaku, no - it installs to the MBR of the first disk, by default.
[02:39] <Korupt> vincenz, I'm working my way through some right now.... I may be farther ahead tho
[02:39] <vincenz> Korupt: oh?
[02:39] <Korupt> vincenz: are you trying to DHCP?
[02:40] <vincenz> Korupt: yeah...keeps trying, can't find a lease
[02:40] <stzack> anyone knows where I can find this package? http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2005/12/msg00301.html
[02:40] <Korupt> vincenz, that means that your security didn't work.... unfortunately wifi has this thing where it won't tell you if it fails
[02:40] <garry> yeah, sorry, I forgot, I don't know if there is a linux pm. My other guess, is that one of the partitions you tried to resize was in use/mounted
[02:40] <sorush20> batman: I don't really know if you have follow the instructions but can't get any where, what are you stuck and what response are you not getting out of the printer.. also if its a scanner and a printer combined I think you need to install the sane packages.
[02:40] <vincenz> Korupt: ah thanks
[02:40] <vincenz> Korupt: I'll turn off the WEP for now
[02:40] <crimsun> stzack: dude, I gave you instructions for building it yourself.
[02:40] <Korupt> vincenz, WEP, WAP, or plain?
[02:41] <Korupt> vincenz, nevermind
[02:41] <TuxOtaku> ok, thanx timfrost.
[02:41] <timfrost> WebLOCH, not necessarily - you can run PArtitionMagic off a boot floppy..  But you might be better to boot from the Ubuntu instal CD, and run parted (you can't resize a mounted partition safely)
[02:41] <vincenz> Korupt: WEP
[02:41] <stzack> I paste the wrong massege man.;
[02:41] <vincenz> also...how do I do a general wireless discover if I'm elsewhere
[02:41] <stzack> lol
[02:42] <Korupt> cafuego, any idea how to try authenticating with WEP clients before wpa_supplicant?
[02:42] <WebLOCH> timfrost, can you give further advice on the ubuntu livecd + parted ?
[02:42] <Korupt> vincenz, "iwlist wlan0 scanning | awk '/ESSID/'"
[02:42] <vincenz> When I manually do a ifdown ifup I get...sit0 unknown hardware type 776
[02:42] <stzack> The message that I would paste here is: Anyone knows if thereis a Sempron that works in 64 (for Ubuntu _64)?
[02:42] <vincenz> Korupt: thanks but it's eth1
[02:43] <Korupt> vincenz, same idea
[02:43] <firefly2442> how do I figure out hd0, hd1, hd2 etc....?
[02:43] <vincenz> but what about this sit0  unknown hardware address type 776
[02:43] <timfrost> WebLOCH, I haven't used it to resize partitions - I did a clean install on a new PC
[02:43] <crimsun> vincenz: ignore it.
[02:43] <batman> sorush20, i'm trying to run sudo tar xvzf  z600llpddk-2.0.tgz -C and it says sudo tar xvzf  z600llpddk-2.0.tgz -C
[02:43] <WebLOCH> timfrost, yeah i did but ive messed up, ive made / too small now its hungry
[02:43] <benplaut> the eternal question... anyone know of a good linux cad program?
[02:44] <Korupt> vincenz, what type of wireless card?
[02:44] <batman> sorush20, * tar: option requires an argument -- C
[02:44] <vincenz> Korupt: 2200 intel
[02:44] <Korupt> vincenz, what method are you using to access it?
[02:45] <vincenz> Korupt: how do I check
[02:45] <vincenz> fortunatley I have a desktop to irc :D
[02:45] <Korupt> vincenz, I mean how did you install the driver?
[02:45] <vincenz> Korupt: standard... ubuntu did it during install
[02:46] <garry> firefly2442  Hd# refers to ide storage devices, /dev/sd# refers to your raid, sata, usb, forewire storage devices.
[02:46] <Korupt> vincenz, hmmmm.... I'm not sure if that card is natively supported... you may need ndiswrapper
[02:46] <vincenz> oh that's why
[02:46] <vincenz> crap
[02:46] <vincenz> it's WPA
[02:46] <vincenz> not WEP
[02:46] <Korupt> pft
[02:46] <vincenz> how do I change it to WPA?
[02:46] <garry> say firefly2442 the # starts at 1 and up.
[02:46] <Korupt> yeah... you need to install pwa_supplicant
[02:46] <Korupt> *wpa
[02:46] <Korupt> one sec
[02:46] <firefly2442> garry, doesn't it start from 0?
[02:47] <firefly2442> garry, isn't it specific to grub?
[02:47] <WebLOCH> Korupt, is there a great list, which is categorised, that gives natively supported hardware?
[02:47] <Korupt> vincenz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto
[02:47] <vincenz> thx
[02:47] <Korupt> WebLOCH, I'm sure there is... I haven't found it tho
[02:47] <garry> firefly2442 the # is the partition number, there is an alpha char that refers to the drive ordinal order starting from a-z
[02:47] <WebLOCH> haha
[02:47] <WebLOCH> Korupt, me  neither :(
[02:47] <timfrost> batman, -C expects a directory name (and it changes to that directory before starting the extract
[02:48] <vincenz> Korupt: it's on the install cd?
[02:48] <Korupt> vincenz, no idea
[02:48] <Korupt> vincenz, in theory yes
[02:48] <vincenz> thx
[02:49] <garry> firefly2442 All the distros I've checked on, it is the same, first partition on a drive is counted as 1, some have the swap as 5 so you can have a drive with two partitions like this /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda5 strange as it seems.
[02:49] <d33t> hello fellow ubuntu users
[02:49] <garry> firefly2442 ye are right, there is the grub thing, I forgot about that, it maps things differently, I"m use to lilo. sorry for the confusion.
[02:50] <d33t> anyone have time to answer a quick question?
[02:50] <Korupt> vincenz, word of warning..... there are some problems after you install it.... namely connecting to WEP routers is a lot harder
[02:50] <timfrost> garry, firefly2442, grub couints disks and partitins from 0. And in the example of hda1 and hda5, hda5 is hd(0,1) for grub
[02:51] <holyguacomole> alrighty... so... got ubuntu from a computer teach at school; using it because windows hates me and refuses to load; now, can anyone tell me why it won't recognize a wireless network card? p.s. i connected it *after* installing ubuntu
[02:51] <garry> timfrost yes, I had just realized. Silly forgetful me. I let WEBloch know.
[02:51] <vincenz> Korupt: damn, not on the cd
[02:51] <Korupt> vincenz, download it from one of the repos and install it using dpkg
[02:51] <vincenz> I'll just use WEP for now
[02:52] <Korupt> vincenz, not a bad idea
[02:52] <murder1> Can someone help a REAL Linux noob?
[02:52] <garry> Hey, I'm the only real noob here! j/k
[02:52] <d33t> network question: i recently built a box with 2 network cards (1 onboard, 1 pci). i later decided i didn't need the pci card and removed it. problem is, the onboard one is associated as eth1, so i have no eth0. i woudl like to change the card to use eth0, where do i edit this?
[02:52] <WebLOCH> murder1, nope, but I can NOOB a real linux
[02:52] <toko123> greetings
[02:53] <arrinmurr> murder1: depends on your problem
[02:53] <bimberi> holyguacomole: check for your card (and any instructions) here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[02:53] <shovex> /sys
[02:53] <d33t> i thought in gentoo it was something under /etc/donf.d, but ubuntu has no such settings (i'm still getting used to debian here.....)
[02:54] <WebLOCH> Korupt, hey ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponents
[02:54] <timfrost> d33t, System->Adminmistration->Networking (or sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces, if you want to hand-edit the file)
[02:54] <garry> d33t, see /system/preferences/network
[02:54] <vincenz> Korupt: what do I put as DNS?
[02:54] <firefly2442> garry, ok thanks!
[02:54] <bimberi> d33t: /etc/iftab
[02:54] <toko123> checking dmesg on a newe install I don't see my snd card sonndblaster live 5 the os defaulted to the onbd sound chip which I have disables in bios afterwards is there a utilty I can run to scan for new devises?
[02:55] <garry> firefly2442 welcome. I need to really get up to speed on grub myself. :) /sheepish grin.
[02:55] <Korupt> vincenz, will be picked up automatically if you are using DHCP
[02:55] <d33t> bimberi - that's what i was looking for
[02:55] <d33t> thanks
[02:55] <d33t> no gui options for me, this is a server without X
[02:55] <bimberi> d33t: yw :)
[02:55] <WebLOCH> Korupt, my bad, that list is pretty poop
[02:55] <vincenz> Korupt: thx
[02:55] <toko123> is there a utility I can run on a live system to see if the os will detect a snd card?
[02:55] <d33t> bimberi - do i need to reboot, or can i get it to take by retsarting the network?
[02:55] <rendi> hi how prevent my server from DDOS attack ?
[02:56] <masX> hey all, can someone tell me how my nic module is getting loaded if it's not in /etc/modules?  Does ifup -a load any modules?
[02:57] <bimberi> d33t: good Q, unfortunately i don't know the answer, never done this myself sorry - give network restart a try and see
[02:57] <d33t> shall do
[02:57] <d33t> heh, failed to stop
[02:57] <d33t> guess i'll just reboot :)
[02:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> masX: Do you have hotplug enabled?
[02:57] <bimberi> d33t: :)
[02:57] <d33t> doh, not sudo
[02:57] <d33t> heh
[02:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> masX: Hotplug is responisble for a large part of hardware activation, and it does handle some network cards.
[02:58] <masX> it starts, but my nic is in interfaces as auto
[02:58] <d33t> nah, still using eth1. reboot required. no biggie, it's just a backup software raid box....
[02:58] <d33t> in any event, thanks again
[02:58] <bimberi> d33t: np :)
[02:59] <AdTheRat> Ok, I've tired, php, and apache2 and kubuntu and not getting much luck, trying here again. Hopefully someone will listen
[02:59] <masX> the weird thing is, if I run grep -r ath0 /etc the only thing that comes up is the stuff in /etc/network.
[02:59] <AdTheRat> When access any php extentions files, nothing is parsed, no output, no error, nothing loads in firefox on my other machine.  Yet any html is loaded fine. (Of course, with Apache2 is running)
[02:59] <AdTheRat> To fully show what I mean, when you access http://atr-quadrent.co.uk/ (this hits index.php) nothing loads, no error either. yet if you hit a non exist file, you get http://atr-quadrent.co.uk/test.php and html works fine http://atr-quadrent.co.uk/testing.html
[03:00] <masX> So I don't know what is referencing it.
[03:00] <sorush20> guys are these right sudo apt-get install upgrade
[03:00] <sorush20> sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade
[03:01] <AdTheRat> I've installed both php5 and apache2 with apt-get
[03:02] <shovex> i apt-get installed my whole apache2 server http://shovex.org
[03:02] <WebLOCH> timfrost, can you tell me, if i have partitions /  swap  /home  in that order, and I make home smaller, can i move  swap and /home to make room for / to expand?
[03:02] <masX> anyone have any other suggestions?
[03:03] <Okita> Hey, can anyone tell me if I should be using the SoftMAC or dscape layer with an Airport Extreme card?
[03:03] <timfrost> WebLOCH, Not sure if parted will do that.
[03:03] <AdTheRat> any ideas at all?
[03:04] <vincenz> Korupt: still no ip
[03:04] <holyguacomole> Hmmmmm, alright, let's back up a step... my computer doesn't seem to register that the PCI wireless network card is even plugged in, is there something i'm supposed to be doing to get it running?
[03:04] <Korupt> vincenz, you probably need to use ndiswrapper
[03:04] <vincenz>  Korupt what is this?
[03:04] <cafuego> Okita: Nobody knows!
[03:04] <Korupt> are you sure your wireless adapter is being detected properly?
[03:05] <cafuego> Okita: softmac here (with wpa) makes the machine hardlock.
[03:05] <garry> !tell vincenz about ndiswrapper
[03:05] <holyguacomole> ahhhh i'm pretty sure it's not.
[03:05] <vincenz> Korupt: it does recognize my card tho
[03:05] <Korupt> garry, wouldn't happen to know how to get WEP working once wpa_supplicant is installed would you?
[03:06] <Korupt> vincenz, but does it recognize it as a wireless device?
[03:06] <WebLOCH> Can anyone answer a few questions on partitioning for me?
[03:06] <cafuego> Korupt: You don't use wpa_suppicant for wep.
[03:06] <vincenz> Korupt: yes
[03:06] <Korupt> cafuego, I know that... but I need to be able to use both in a scan... how do I do that?
[03:06] <garry> Korupt nope, no idea. Only thing I can guess is to look at System/Adminsistration/network and see if any clues there.
[03:06] <cafuego> Korupt: Not, basically ;-)
[03:07] <vincenz> my wifi works, just won't dhcp connect
[03:07] <Korupt> vincenz, and is DHCP working on your network?
[03:07] <vincenz> Korupt: yes it used to with windows
[03:07] <vincenz> and my desktop works fine
[03:07] <vincenz> (debian plugged into a port with cable)
[03:07] <Korupt> cafuego, I know it is possible
[03:08] <pav_m> hey anyone know of a good thinkpad model, something with good battery life
[03:08] <pav_m> i want to buy and new comp off ebay
[03:08] <Okita> cafuego: I'm running Dapper, so I guess I'll mess around with what's here, eh? =)
[03:08] <pav_m> its hard to find solid reviews
[03:08] <cafuego> Korupt: You can scan for networks without any encryption, that's just a matter of getting the card to list what's available.
[03:08] <pav_m> ?????
[03:09] <Korupt> cafuego, I know that
[03:09] <garry> I've known a number of folks that got so annoyed with thinkpad linux issues they call them stinkpads.
[03:09] <pav_m> ahah really?
[03:09] <pav_m> well whats a good used laptop
[03:09] <_jason2> pav_m, I don't know about ibm's but if you are buying a used laptop expect to replace the battery if you want a long life
[03:09] <pav_m> with lots of battery life
[03:09] <masX> Guys can someone tell me how modules are loaded in Ubuntu that don't appear in /etc/modules?  It's my network interace.
[03:09] <pav_m> do they generally degrade over time?
[03:09] <WebLOCH> Can anyone recommend a partitioning tool capable of "moving" partitions aswell?
[03:09] <cafuego> Okita: I'm told the latest dapper prebuilt kernels works OK with wep (BenC says as much in the kernel changelog)
[03:10] <holyguacomole> I don't get it, I have my wireless PCI card plugged in but my computer isn't recognizing it or showing it in System Information
[03:10] <_jason2> pav_m, yeah, mine is 3 years old and I'm lucky if it lasts half an hour
[03:10] <pav_m> ahah i see
[03:10] <cafuego> Okita: You may or may not need to obtain firmware, though.
[03:10] <Okita> cafuego: Do I actually need to recompile any of the modules, or should dapper test 2 work out of the box
[03:10] <Okita> cafuego: I'm working on that now (fwcutter), I'll see if it works or not
[03:10] <Okita> The svn checkout seems to be taking its time...
[03:10] <cafuego> Okita: kernel 2.6.15-11 says: "I'm now using my Airport2 card with bcm43xx on a WEP enabled AP (albeit, only at 11M)"
[03:11] <vincenz> that's odd..it briefly gave me an ip...then.... the networking thing stopped the "configuring eth1" popup but it's still busy, the networking dialog
[03:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> masX: Dude... hotplug will load modules that aren't in /etc/modules... that's what it does.
[03:11] <timfrost> holyguacomole, in a terminal, run "lspci".  Does that list the card?
[03:11] <garry> holyguacomole, last time I had something like that happen, the pci card had slipped partway out of hte slot. Spent an hour, looked and groaned.
[03:11] <garry> and it was screwed down, as well as this friend's dell tower could hold it down.
[03:11] <cafuego> Okita: I used fwcutter on a linksys AP firmware, my OSX box doesn't have the latest ap extreme drivers installed.
[03:11] <msh> hi
[03:11] <AdTheRat> ok, I've just look at look at the error.log and found out this "[notice]  child pid 10094 exit signal Segmentiation fault (11)"
[03:12] <cafuego> Okita: Let me know how you go. if not, I'll pack up the ones I did.
[03:12] <AdTheRat> any ideas
[03:12] <Linfanguin> how can i transfer music files to my treo 650 im on ubuntu
[03:12] <cafuego> AdTheRat: apache?
[03:12] <yggdrasil> does anyone here play FlightGear ?
[03:12] <cafuego> yggdrasil: I did last night
[03:12] <NachtKurier> hi
[03:12] <masX> PuMpErNiCkLe;  I get that, but where it the module referenced.  My interface is ath0, and it's not in /etc/hotplug*
[03:12] <AdTheRat> cafuego apache2 - php5
[03:12] <hikenboot> can anyone comment on what they think the least buggy browser is ?
[03:12] <AdTheRat> that error happens every time I try to hit a php file
[03:12] <WebLOCH> hikenboot, epiphany
[03:12] <yggdrasil> cafuego i cant get it to run
[03:12] <cafuego> AdTheRat: is mod-security installed at all?
[03:13] <cafuego> yggdrasil: Howso?
[03:13] <AdTheRat> for apache2 yes
[03:13] <yggdrasil> i loaded using synaptic
[03:13] <cafuego> AdTheRat: Disable it, retry.
[03:13] <yggdrasil> and it seems to have done it
[03:13] <AdTheRat> I think..
[03:13] <yggdrasil> but i cant get it to work
[03:13] <hikenboot> is it free?
[03:13] <WebLOCH> hikenboot, it certainly is
[03:13] <yggdrasil> just tries to start then goes away
[03:13] <hikenboot> what makes it so unbuggy I am getting tired of firefoxes bugs and crashes
[03:14] <cafuego> yggdrasil: Run 'usr/games/fgfs' from the commandline...
[03:14] <cafuego> with a / at the beginning too.
[03:14] <AdTheRat> sorry, cafuego, no mod-scurity
[03:14] <AdTheRat> er mod-security*
[03:14] <cafuego> AdTheRat: Are you running any specific php code?
[03:15] <AdTheRat> it happens for any php file
[03:15] <cafuego> Buggy php then. try php4.
[03:15] <AdTheRat> php just doesn't parse at all
[03:15] <yggdrasil> cafuego ok
[03:15] <yggdrasil> im trying
[03:15] <Linfanguin> nobody knows ok thank you
[03:15] <hikenboot> y
[03:16] <holyguacomole> After plugging in a PCI card, do I need to do anything w/ ubuntu to get it to read the device?
[03:16] <yggdrasil> fgfs: indirect_vertex_array.c:1359: __indirect_glTexCoordPointer: Assertion `a != ((void *)0)' failed.
[03:16] <yggdrasil> Aborted
[03:16] <yggdrasil> does it need a nice computer ?
[03:16] <yggdrasil> or video card or something
[03:16] <yggdrasil> this is jsut like an ati rage pro or so
[03:16] <cafuego> yggdrasil: soemthing spiffy with hardware 3D, yes
[03:16] <yggdrasil> rage pros got it
[03:16] <yggdrasil> brb pasta
[03:16] <vincenz> Still no ip
[03:16] <AdTheRat> Thanks guys
[03:17] <theeil> what kernel version does 5.10 ship with?
[03:17] <cafuego> yggdrasil: rage pro? Ouch!
[03:17] <AdTheRat> I've fixed it by reinstalling libapache2-mod-php5
[03:17] <Korupt> vincenz, I'm not sure.... right now I'm close to beating my own machine with a stick
[03:17] <cafuego> theeil: 2.6.12 I think.
[03:17] <bimberi> theeil: 2.6.12-9
[03:17] <AdTheRat> just so you know for future refence, cafuego
[03:17] <robotgeek> hey KingBahamut
[03:17] <theeil> dam
[03:17] <vincenz> if I do ifconfig
[03:17] <vincenz> it says doing MULTICAST
[03:18] <anton_> hello
[03:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hey anton_
[03:18] <theeil> it would be really nice to have >= 2.6.15
[03:18] <anton_> I'm a first time linux user
[03:18] <KingBahamut> robotgeek, to what do I owe the honor?
[03:18] <cafuego> theeil: 2.6.15 requires newer versions of virtually all userspace tools.
[03:19] <WebLOCH> does anyone know where i can find a list of chipsets that lmsensor works with ?
[03:19] <_jason2> KingBahamut, may I pm you?
[03:19] <robotgeek> KingBahamut: i'm usually jobless and am in here, lol
[03:19] <WebLOCH> robotgeek, help me out then
[03:19] <KingBahamut> robotgeek, jobless is never a good thing
[03:19] <theeil> cafuego: so that means...?
[03:19] <cafuego> theeil: (Dapper uses it, if you're game to upgrade to a known-unstable Ubuntu)
[03:19] <KingBahamut> Of course, as a contract dev, I know it only too well
[03:19] <robotgeek> WebLOCH: sure, what issue?
[03:19] <vincenz> woo
[03:19] <vincenz> it works
[03:19] <vincenz> at last
[03:19] <garry> grats!
[03:19] <WebLOCH> robotgeek, two seeing as you're so unemployable you will have the time!
[03:20] <vincenz> just had to wait longer for an ip
[03:20] <cafuego> theeil: You can't just add a 2.6.15 kernel onto the system without also upgrading a lot of the tools that support said kernel. (module tools, hardware detection tools)
[03:20] <vincenz> time to test WPA
[03:20] <cafuego> It also breaks vmware.
[03:20] <vincenz> WPA radius or WPA pre-shared key
[03:20] <vincenz> or werp
[03:20] <vincenz> wep
[03:20] <cafuego> wep is easiest but not safe.
[03:20] <theeil> because it comes with drivers for wifi card
[03:20] <WebLOCH> robotgeek, first up, i need to shrink a partition, then move two partitions and expand the partition that was behind them, how (and with what) can i do this considering they are all mounted to boot ?
[03:20] <robotgeek> WebLOCH: not entirely jobless, i keep myself busy. however, that's for #offtopic, i guess
[03:20] <vincenz> cafuego: why's that
[03:20] <cafuego> wpa radius is a pita, wpa psk is easy enough.
[03:21] <yggdrasil> cafuego where you from ?
[03:21] <cafuego> theeil: Which card?
[03:21] <vincenz> PITA?
[03:21] <punkrockguy318> is dapper really broken right now?
[03:21] <cafuego> yggdrasil: planet earth. you? ;-)
[03:21] <_jason2> KingBahamut, I'd like to speak with you regarding the forums, if you have the time please
[03:21] <yggdrasil> same
[03:21] <yggdrasil> unfortunately
[03:21] <theeil> the intel pro/wireless thing that ships in dells
[03:21] <yggdrasil> so do you think that fsgear  wont run on this card
[03:21] <robotgeek> WebLOCH: gparted and a livecd, maybe even the livecd from the gparted site (for cutting edgeness)
[03:21] <vincenz> cafuego: for WEP... one of the four keys or the passphrase?
[03:21] <cafuego> theeil: breezy (5.10) should support those too.
[03:21] <punkrockguy318> is anyone else experiacnes dapper breakage?
[03:22] <cafuego> punkrockguy318: Yes
[03:22] <WebLOCH> robotgeek, so gparted IS capable of moving partitions
[03:22] <garry> Yeah, udev would need at least .71 and some mucking with config files. I did it successfully with slackware to 2.6.15 more from sheer luck that I didn't mess it up good.
[03:22] <robotgeek> WebLOCH: hmm, lemme check their site
[03:22] <holyguacomole> do I need to do anything to get my computer to read a PCI card i put in it? It's not reading my linksys wireless pci card.
[03:22] <cafuego> punkrockguy318: Also, note that just coz it's not broken NOW doesn't mean it won't be broken tomorrow.
[03:22] <punkrockguy318> cafuego, yeah, i'm aware
[03:22] <garry> udev would also need compile, as where I got it it ws source code, and some guesswork.
[03:22] <theeil> cafuego: i have that on cd, but i read that there is only support in 2.6.15+ kernel
[03:22] <punkrockguy318> cafuego, i've just been messing with my system a lot, and i wanted to make sure it was the dist-upgrade andd not my hardwware/software
[03:23] <cafuego> theeil: Where did you read it? Have you tried with the 5.10 livecd?
[03:23] <punkrockguy318> cafuego, my sound is broken, my apt is somewhat broken, and my gnome/gnome apps are borked
[03:23] <greg> how do i make Ubuntu windows copatible?
[03:23] <theeil> cafuego: http://rtr.ca/dell_i9300/
[03:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: Windows compatible in what way?
[03:23] <cafuego> punkrockguy318: Easy fix for a lot of stuff: terminal -> 'killall gam_server'
[03:23] <greg> i want ubuntu to be able to run windows based programs
[03:23] <punkrockguy318> cafuego, i can't even get gnome to run :-\ it hangs on startup
[03:23] <cafuego> punkrockguy318: neet.
[03:23] <punkrockguy318> cafuego, i did read that on the ml though
[03:24] <greg> i bought a modem the other day, but it's driver is windows based
[03:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: That can be done to a limited extent by running 'sudo apt-get install wine xwine' in a terminal.
[03:24] <punkrockguy318> cafuego, so, lately i've been just running fluxbox with my speakers plugged into my ipod
[03:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: There's probably an OSS driver for the modem.
[03:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: Windows drivers won't work in Ubuntu, though.
[03:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: Not even with wine.
[03:25] <punkrockguy318> cafuego, i'm drawing a conclusion too.. my system is much faster when it's not playing music through rhythmbox all the time.. i have a 1.4ghz system and music really does take a toll on it
[03:25] <cafuego> punkrockguy318: When the happens I tend to trash ~/.gconfd/saved_state
[03:25] <punkrockguy318> hmm i'll give that a try
[03:25] <punkrockguy318> we'll see how my sytem boots up tomorrow
[03:25] <punkrockguy318> i always feel badass when i start my system up and like six things say 'FAILED'
[03:26] <garry> hehe
[03:26] <yggdrasil> cafuego its an ati 3drage pro
[03:26] <lassiter> !help
[03:26] <punkrockguy318> cafuego, well, thanks for the headsup man, see you around
[03:26] <vincenz> heh...WEP seems not to work
[03:26] <vincenz> do I put hexadecimal or plaintet?
[03:27] <vincenz> I briefly get an IP but then lose it again
[03:27] <vincenz> (kept typing ifconfig as it went)
[03:27] <greg> well maybe you guys know the problem
[03:27] <lassiter> has anyone had success getting a logitech 420 webcam to work on breezy?
[03:27] <Sio|sleep> one thing windows has which linux doesn't and SHOULD have; a gui for setting up dual monitors.
[03:28] <whatwhat> good night
[03:28] <greg> i bought a modem, and the model is install physically into the computer correctly, but ubuntu will not detect the modem
[03:28] <garry> In Xorg, its callled twinview
[03:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: What's the model number/name/maker of the modem?
[03:28] <lassiter> camorama say cannot connect to dev-video0
[03:29] <greg> not sure about all that info
[03:29] <greg> but the make of the modem is stratitec
[03:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: k
[03:30] <g33k> hey guys
[03:30] <whatwhat> someone know who can i change the icone size from desktop in ubuntu
[03:30] <g33k> got one question
[03:30] <GhostFreeman> How do I find out what version of Ubuntu I am running
[03:30] <vincenz> !wep
[03:30] <ubotu> hmm... wep is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-10-07.0031507315
[03:30] <lassiter> try uname -a
[03:30] <g33k> what does these universe and multiverse in sources.list file mean ???
[03:30] <toydi> hi, i just installed ubuntu, and selected partitioning with LVM by default. Now, i have a 2 LV: Ubuntu-root, Ubuntu-swap. Is it possible to resize "Ubuntu-root" to get some spaces for new LV?
[03:30] <devwal> How do I get ubuntu to run from an external drive on my powerbook?
[03:30] <woodgrain> how do I find out where my JRE is ?
[03:30] <vincenz> !tell vincenz about wep
[03:31] <FliesLikeABrick> devwal,  does your powerbook have a "boot from firewire/usb" option?
[03:31] <Phuzion> What would someone recommend as a good C compiler?
[03:31] <devwal> in the partitioning area?
[03:31] <GhostFreeman> I'm referring to a version name, like Breezy or Hoary
[03:31] <lassiter> woodgrain do a  slocate jre
[03:31] <Sio|sleep> Phuzion, gcc
[03:31] <dooglus> Phuzion: gcc
[03:31] <FliesLikeABrick> devwal,  in the bios
[03:31] <Sio|sleep> Phuzion, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:31] <GhostFreeman> I just finished updating to Breezy
[03:31] <woodgrain> lassiter, what's slocate "sloppy locate"
[03:31] <devwal> im not sure
[03:31] <Sio|sleep> dooglus, beat you to it ;)
[03:31] <lassiter> or locate
[03:31] <dooglus> woodgrain: "secure", I think
[03:31] <sandis> Hi! Does anybody know where postgresql8.0.3 databases are stored in breezy?
[03:31] <_jason2> GhostFreeman, lsb_release -c
[03:32] <devwal> FliesLikeABrick: yes it does
[03:32] <FliesLikeABrick> devwal,  set it to do that if you have ubuntu installed on the external drive
[03:32] <Phuzion> Sio|sleep:  Thanks for the tip!
[03:32] <GhostFreeman> Ok, it's saying Hoary
[03:32] <lassiter> the name goes by the release number 5.10=Breezy Badger
[03:32] <FlyingSquirrel32> how can I start vino from a ssh terminal?
[03:32] <GhostFreeman> and I just finished updating to Breezy!
[03:32] <lassiter> 5.04=Hoary
[03:33] <dooglus> FlyingSquirrel32: /usr/lib/vino/vino-server
[03:33] <vincenz> no wep
[03:33] <GhostFreeman> I just spent the last three hours updating to Breezy and i'm still running Hoary?
[03:33] <_jason2> GhostFreeman, how did you update to breezy
[03:33] <lassiter> what does it say when you boot
[03:34] <FlyingSquirrel32> /usr/lib/vino/vino-server tried that :/
[03:34] <GhostFreeman> I changed every instance of Hoary to breezy in sources.list, and ran apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:34] <lassiter> you can dual boot hoary with breezy
[03:34] <FlyingSquirrel32> dooglus: ^
[03:34] <dooglus> FlyingSquirrel32: and?
[03:34] <Pavix> The gmail notification rocks in ubuntu
[03:34] <FlyingSquirrel32> (vino-server:8552): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[03:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: Does this look like it? http://customer.stratitec.com/product_info.php?cPath=14_158&products_id=830
[03:35] <FlyingSquirrel32> dooglus: i guess it's running but can't connect
[03:35] <lassiter> what kernel are you running ghost
[03:35] <GhostFreeman> Can someone refer me to the man page to do a proper upgrade to Breezy
[03:35] <_jason2> ubotu, tell GhostFreeman about breezy
[03:35] <rjefferson> hey, i just did an update to dapper and my synaptics touchpad is *extremely* slow!
[03:35] <concept10> what do you guys play quicktime streams with?
[03:35] <_jason2> concept10, mplayer
[03:35] <GhostFreeman> 2.6.10-5-686-smp
[03:36] <FlyingSquirrel32> dooglus: do you know the port it runs on?
[03:36] <rjefferson> any ideas?
[03:36] <dooglus> FlyingSquirrel32: the problem is that it can't talk to the X server.
[03:36] <dooglus> FlyingSquirrel32: 5900
[03:36] <yggdrasil> cafuego i founda whole # dedicated to it ...!
[03:36] <dbernar1> Is #ubuntu good at support?
[03:37] <dooglus> FlyingSquirrel32:
[03:37] <Sio|sleep> dbernar1, sure is
[03:37] <Sio|sleep> dbernar1, good first question - next...?
[03:37] <timfrost> GhostFreeman, have you rebooted since finishing the dist-upgrade?
[03:37] <FlyingSquirrel32> dooglus: closed.
[03:37] <GhostFreeman> yes, I just came back from reboot
[03:37] <FlyingSquirrel32> any ideas?
[03:37] <lassiter> my kernel is 2.6.12-10-386
[03:37] <dbernar1> Sio|sleep: that is all I wanted to know, really.
[03:37] <concept10> _jason, how do you open them?
[03:37] <yggdrasil> ! pastebin
[03:37] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:37] <dbernar1> Sio|sleep: however, one opinion is not enough.
[03:38] <sorush20> i keep getting this erro when I try to access adept help Command 'adept '-icon' 'adept' '-miniicon' 'adept' -caption "Adept" ' not found.
[03:38] <Sio|sleep> dbernar1, fair enough - well the answer is yes, you should see the volume of chat this channel does per day, then you'll see
[03:38] <GhostFreeman> I might just retry it again following this guide
[03:38] <greg> pumpremickle: yes that's it
[03:38] <greg> sorry it took so long, my computer doesn't surf very fast
[03:38] <Sio|sleep> dbernar1, how about the opinions of the ~600 people idling in here?
[03:39] <FliesLikeABrick> dbernar1,  yes of course it is good for support, thats what this channel is for... unless i've been horribly mistaken
[03:39] <greg> so, what's next?
[03:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: So far, I've found a bunch of people with the same problem you've got. :D
[03:40] <greg> :(
[03:40] <garry> My opinion is that I don't know enough to offfer a helpful opinion unlesss I am extremely sure of my thoughts.
[03:41] <dabaR> FliesLikeABrick: OK, but the difference between "for" and "at" should be noted in my question. I in no way want too much discussion, a simple poll of whoever-wants-to-answer's opinion.
[03:41] <greg> so do you think it's a problem with it cooperating with ubuntu or is there a problem with the modem
[03:41] <dooglus> FlyingSquirrel32: when you run a terminal inside an X session, the terminal has various stuff defined which lets it connect to the X server
[03:41] <dooglus> FlyingSquirrel32: if you ssh in from outside you won't have those variables set so the server won't talk to you
[03:41] <dooglus> FlyingSquirrel32: that's what's going wrong with your vino server
[03:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: Apparently there's a driver for it... run 'lsmod | grep lt_modem' and if nothing turns up, run 'sudo modprobe lt_modem'.
[03:42] <GhostFreeman> anyone here use Xfce?
[03:42] <greg> and i do that how
[03:42] <greg> i'm new to ubuntu
[03:42] <greg> LD
[03:42] <GhostFreeman> I'm trying to add a launcher that will launch Synaptic, but even with sudo prefixed on it, it won't do anything
[03:42] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: 1) Open a terminal (Applications -> accessories -> terminal, I think... if it's not accessories, it's utilities).
[03:42] <garry> applications/Accessories/terminal
[03:42] <GhostFreeman> How would I fix this
[03:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: 2) Copy/paste.
[03:43] <gpled> does the install cd have media checker?
[03:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: Don't copy the '' though.
[03:43] <FlyingSquirrel32> dooglus: thanks.
[03:43] <FliesLikeABrick> dabaR, i only see one question you asked, and it contains neither of those words
[03:43] <dooglus> GhostFreeman: use "gksu /usr/sbin/synaptic" as the command
[03:44] <GhostFreeman> Thanks
[03:44] <Pavix> I might have broken apt-get. I get this message
[03:44] <bensode> Hmm just installed Ubuntu 5.10 from CD but no option to set root passwd?
[03:44] <Pavix> Package mplayer-386 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:44] <toydi> hi, is it possible to resize a LV's filesystem (ext3) without umounting it?
[03:44] <dooglus> GhostFreeman: or, better still, just right-click on the existing menu entry and say "add as launcher" or whatever
[03:44] <dooglus> !root
[03:44] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[03:44] <Pavix> bensode: sudo passwd root
[03:45] <bimberi> ubotu tell bensode about root
[03:45] <bensode> thanks I'll take a look at that.  The distro looks great so far
[03:45] <FliesLikeABrick> Pavix,  do you have "universe" repositories uncommented in your sources.list, and did you do apt-get update before trying to intsall mplayer?
[03:45] <j2daosh> hows it hanging people?
[03:45] <Pavix> FliesLikeABrick: yep, let me pastebin my conf if you have a sec
[03:45] <FliesLikeABrick> don't bother Pavix  i believe you
[03:46] <bimberi> Pavix: no, do it, you need multiverse enabled for mplayer
[03:46] <greg> fatal error: lt_modem not found
[03:46] <greg> that's what i get
[03:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: o_O
[03:46] <greg> that's not good is it
[03:46] <Pavix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6939
[03:46] <greg> :(
[03:46] <_jason2> !info mplayer-386
[03:47] <ubotu> mplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3729 kB, Installed size: 8268 kB
[03:47] <greg> I lost the receit too :(
[03:47] <j2daosh> yesterday i was in here asking about if it was possible to use the cut command twice on the same input to cut 2 fields from that data... well i found out it didn't work... but..what operators do i have to use to search by an unspecified user that isn't the person currently logged in and kill the pid associated with it?
[03:47] <greg> I hope the modem isn't defective
[03:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: Not bad, just unexpected.
[03:47] <j2daosh> is it even possible?
[03:47] <j2daosh> bimberi, hows it hanging man?
[03:47] <greg> brb
[03:47] <_jason2> Pavix, you need multiverse for mplayer
[03:47] <greg> i'll say hi when i'm back] 
[03:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: Could you run 'locate lt_modem' when you get back?
[03:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: k
[03:48] <_jason2> Pavix, append " multiverse" to the end of lines 21 and 22
[03:48] <Pavix> Ok
[03:48] <MattwestM> I need some help with GRUB, can anyone help me?
[03:48] <bimberi> hey j2daosh!  not too bad :)
[03:48] <j2daosh> thats good man
[03:48] <whatwhat> i m sorry the question but ... how can i watch one divx movie in ubunto ?
[03:49] <chrisx1> hey i need help
[03:49] <chrisx1> finding my ip address
[03:49] <whatwhat> or is not suported ?
[03:49] <bsai8> I have a question.
[03:49] <MattwestM> I need the boot commands to put into the Grub.conf file to boot ubuntu properly
[03:49] <mack> hey everyone i just started runnung linux for the first time
[03:49] <j2daosh> chris... terminal...ifconfig
[03:49] <_jason2> chrisx1, www.whatismyip.org
[03:49] <chrisx1> no _jason , Private ip
[03:49] <j2daosh> or what jason said
[03:49] <chrisx1> ty j2daosh
[03:49] <mack> can anyone answer some newbie questions
[03:49] <vincenz> hmm
[03:49] <_jason2> ChrisTucker, then what j2daosh said :P
[03:49] <vincenz> rubygems doesn't come with ubuntu's ruby?
[03:49] <j2daosh> sure mack... even though you took my real name lol
[03:50] <mack> its my real name too
[03:50] <j2daosh> lol _jason
[03:50] <ChrisTucker> _jason, what?
[03:50] <MattwestM> can someone send me their grub.conf file?
[03:50] <ChrisTucker> er
[03:50] <garry> !tell MattwestM about grub
[03:50] <_jason2> sorry ChrisTucker, name completion error
[03:50] <ChrisTucker> _jason2,  what?
[03:50] <bsai8> I have an Ethernet and a Broadcom based (Motorola WPCI810G) Wireless card. Okay I got them both working, but when I have them both on
[03:50] <ChrisTucker> ah
[03:50] <irvin> chrisx1, ifconfig eth0 | grep inet
[03:50] <MattwestM> I just need help with Grub
[03:50] <bsai8> my wlan0 auto goes to default gateway
[03:50] <whatwhat> you shure we can watch divx movies in linux ?
[03:50] <Pavix> _jason2: That fixed the problem. thanks
[03:50] <bsai8> and i want my eth0 to be default gateway
[03:50] <StudyUrNme> ChrisTucker,  ifconfig|grep Bcast
[03:50] <_jason2> Pavix, np
[03:50] <bsai8> and it wont let me choose eth0 it always defaults to wlan0
[03:50] <j2daosh> matt... go to terminal and type grub-install
[03:51] <ChrisTucker> StudyUrNme, ?
[03:51] <mack> how in the heck do i get an mp3 to play i been screwing around with zinf for a few hours
[03:51] <j2daosh> ChrisTucker, u are getting messages meant for the chrisx1 person who left
[03:51] <hikenboot> I am installing epiphany it requires libgnomeui-2.0...i find no such package and have tried a dozen others seeing if they are the one...anyone know what this one would be?
[03:51] <j2daosh> mack... download the codecs
[03:51] <garry> !tell mack about codecs
[03:51] <StudyUrNme> ChrisTucker, sorry that was for christx1, he left
[03:52] <ChrisTucker> j2daosh, i noticed
[03:52] <j2daosh> vi your sources.list and then uncomment the multiverse and universe sources
[03:52] <MattwestM> that's the thing, I can't boot ubuntu. Grub is already installed
[03:52] <MattwestM> I have 2 linux distros
[03:52] <j2daosh> u cant boot ubuntu?
[03:52] <ChrisTucker> and its kind of annoying.. this damn client has a sound to nickname notices
[03:52] <mack> for what app?
[03:52] <mack> zinf
[03:52] <mack> or rythymbox
[03:52] <j2daosh> ahh
[03:52] <vincenz> irb is not in ubuntu?
[03:52] <j2daosh> mack... any of them
[03:52] <Pavix> Now I get Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-22 but it is not installable
[03:52] <j2daosh> u need the w32codecs to play mp3
[03:52] <bensode> Cool thanks guys got it all set!  I think I'll no longer be a devout SuSE fan anymore =)
[03:52] <j2daosh> yes bsai8 ?
[03:52] <mack> is everyone here running ubuntu
[03:53] <j2daosh> lol bimberi check me out answering questions and shit lol
[03:53] <vincenz> can I use debian packages on ubuntu?
[03:53] <bsai8> I got my broadcom based wireless to work, and my eth0 card (obviously or i wouldnt be chatting)
[03:53] <bsai8> but they wont work at the same time both being active
[03:53] <j2daosh> now if i could only find a way to force adobe illustrator
[03:53] <bsai8> i need my eth0 to be default gateway to get on the net
[03:53] <bsai8> but if i have both on, wlan0 defaults and thats my local network
[03:53] <_jason2> ubotu, tell mack about mp3
[03:53] <bsai8> and wont let me manually change to eth0.
[03:53] <hikenboot> never mind its looking for the dev package
[03:54] <j2daosh> bsai8, go to system... admin....networking
[03:54] <timfrost> vincenz, some may work, but it is risky (different libraries and dependencies)
[03:54] <bsai8> ok.
[03:54] <j2daosh> change default gateway there
[03:54] <narles> does anyone know how to get rid of the contextmenu extensions.. because when i right click something.. there are too many options and i cannot go up to click 'save as'
[03:54] <QMario> Is there a grammar check for Open Office as there is in Microsoft Word?
[03:54] <bsai8> i know, it always defaults to wlan0 being on
[03:55] <bsai8> even if i change to eth0 and click ok
[03:55] <bsai8> wlan0 overrides every time
[03:55] <j2daosh> change the properties of it... i dont have a wireless so im not sure about it
[03:55] <bsai8> oh ok.
[03:55] <bsai8> hmm..
[03:55] <bsai8> thanks though
[03:55] <j2daosh> change the wlan properties to disabled or something
[03:55] <bsai8> i know, but i need them both on to share my internet
[03:55] <bsai8> w/ the rest of the network
[03:56] <j2daosh> well then ur kinda fuc***
[03:56] <bsai8> or thats how i did it in WinXP anyway
[03:56] <j2daosh> linux aint winxp... try it both ways
[03:56] <j2daosh> u might only need one
[03:56] <holyguacomole> what kernel version does ubuntu run off of?
[03:56] <greg> hi i'm back
[03:56] <j2daosh> if you have a w network with everyone wireless you shouldn't need the lan
[03:56] <bsai8> hm... weird, now it says theyre both active and wlan0 is on, but eth0 is def. gateway
[03:56] <greg> this is what it said......
[03:56] <namuneo> kikou tout le monde
[03:57] <namuneo> help
[03:57] <j2daosh> holy... aplications... system tools... system info
[03:57] <greg> could not open database: /var/libslocate/slocate.db: No such file or directory
[03:57] <hikenboot> anyone know if epiphany web browser will only run on gnome desktop...as a requirement of its compile its looking for gnome-desktop-2.0...i use xfce
[03:57] <greg> :(
[03:57] <holyguacomole> gotcha.
[03:57] <MarcN> The gnome cups manager in dapper actually lets me print to printers on my windows network.  Never got that working as easily as it was with Ubuntu.  Cool!
[03:57] <j2daosh> what do you need it for greg?
[03:57] <poningru> how does one format a USB key?
[03:57] <bsai8> hey cool j2daosh it works with just the eth0 on, my home net and internet
[03:58] <poningru> fsck?
[03:58] <bsai8> oddly.
[03:58] <j2daosh> system... admin... disks
[03:58] <poningru> err
[03:58] <greg> unless the other guy left...
[03:58] <mack> j2daosh...should i even mess with zinf or should i just get the codecs for rythymbox?
[03:58] <j2daosh> there u go bsai8
[03:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: Ok, that's not right...
[03:58] <j2daosh> mack... w32codecs go for any prog
[03:58] <greg> actually, that's not good lol
[03:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: How recently did you install Ubuntu?
[03:58] <greg> yesterday
[03:58] <j2daosh> what prog u using mack
[03:58] <j2daosh> ?
[03:58] <greg> but i've had it before
[03:58] <mack> i know that but what app do you recomend just as a player
[03:58] <j2daosh> get xmms
[03:58] <greg> this is the newest version
[03:59] <j2daosh> its like winamp but linux ver
[03:59] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: Dapper?  Or Breezy?
[03:59] <timfrost> hikenboot, It should work in xfce.  However, as you are compiling, you need the Gnome developemt libraries (libgnome-desktop-dev, I think)
[03:59] <poningru> greg: whats wrong?
[03:59] <Pavix> Now we just need something that'll work with launchcast and I'll be set ;)
[03:59] <j2daosh> movies... totem-xine / mplayer
[03:59] <greg> breezy
[03:59] <poningru> Pavix: hold on
[03:59] <j2daosh> lol breezy is wrong greg?
[03:59] <mack> i have rythymbox already installed but i thought i needed zinf to play them
[03:59] <greg> Pon: can't get ubuntu to reconize or find my modem
[03:59] <slashx1896> hey
[03:59] <theverant> are there any font packages to download, or do I have to add 'em manually
[04:00] <j2daosh> yeah use synaptic the
[04:00] <j2daosh> search for fonts
[04:00] <j2daosh> install the ones you want
[04:00] <theverant> thanks j2daosh!
[04:00] <j2daosh> hows it hanging seaveas
[04:00] <j2daosh> ?
[04:00] <j2daosh> np the
[04:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: Maybe it hasn't had time to generate the locate db... I think that's part of a cron job that runs at night...
[04:00] <thewayofzen> anyone recall the command to allow me to switch my java
[04:00] <thewayofzen> like after i install the .deb  to pick the newly installed one
[04:01] <greg> say what pump?
[04:01] <mack> but when  tryd to install zinf its says no acceptable c compiler found
[04:01] <thewayofzen> !javadebs
[04:01] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy
[04:01] <bsai8> ok if i set my other PCs to use this PC's wireless card as their gateway... would that share the Internet with all of my PCs?
[04:01] <j2daosh> thewayofzen, u could always use synaptic to remove old one and then just install new if you cant remember command
[04:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: Check if /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/char/lt_modem.ko exists through the file browser, I guess.
[04:01] <greg> the modem was in the computer when ubuntu was installed
[04:01] <NCLife> hey, does anybody knows why im getting this warning message when i try to export a song from gtkpod?
[04:01] <NCLife> Template ('%o;%a - %t.mp3;%t.wav') does not match file type '/media/ipod/iPod_Control/Music/F30/01 Track 01 1.m4a'
[04:01] <NCLife> Failed to write '2raumwohnung-2 Von Millionen Von Sternen (Clubversion)'
[04:01] <poningru> Pavix: you still there?
[04:01] <thewayofzen> j2daosh,  i know there was a dpk-reconfigure or some sort of similar command
[04:02] <poningru> http://www.pooyak.com/p/pklaunch/
[04:02] <MattwestM> what is the default kernel number for 5.10?
[04:02] <narles> i can't get gtkpod to work with m4a files... any help?
[04:02] <j2daosh> bsai8, if you have the wan set as default others will use wan... if you use the lan the others will have to use the lan... unless the wan is set off the the modem and you have a cable running to your box
[04:02] <Pavix> Yes
[04:02] <thewayofzen> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:02] <thewayofzen> that one
[04:02] <j2daosh> thewayofzen, not sure
[04:02] <j2daosh> well there you go
[04:02] <j2daosh> :)
[04:03] <bsai8> I have a cable modem running into my eth0.
[04:03] <thewayofzen> no thats the one
[04:03] <thewayofzen> :)
[04:03] <poningru> Pavix: you need w32codec
[04:03] <thewayofzen> google:  java choose ubuntu
[04:03] <thewayofzen> and i got it
[04:03] <bsai8> And a wireless card.
[04:03] <thewayofzen> lol
[04:03] <Pavix> Hmm
[04:03] <j2daosh> interesting bsai8
[04:03] <Rexbron> Could some one help me setting the correct resoultion in x11
[04:03] <Pavix> downloading the .deb file
[04:03] <greg> that file does not exist
[04:03] <Pavix> how do I install a .deb?
[04:03] <poningru> Pavix: also mplayerplugin
[04:03] <bsai8> I have a wireless router, but... the cable company wont let me use it. shhh.
[04:03] <tigerrr> dpkg -i blah.deb
[04:04] <j2daosh> i have the same problem with mine
[04:04] <s_spiff> yello ppl
[04:04] <tigerrr> pavix: dpkg -i blah.deb
[04:04] <j2daosh> ok bsai8 in order to do what you want you have to change your net config
[04:04] <j2daosh> im sure its doable that way... but its alot more trouble then its worth
[04:04] <j2daosh> does your route have a cable port? or just wan?
[04:04] <narles> i can't get gtkpod to work with m4a files... any help?
[04:04] <martinex> hello all
[04:04] <s_spiff>  hey is there any other option other than the default pdf reader? inthe one that comes with gnome, pages simpe don't load, as in they take ages to show up!
[04:05] <martinex> does someone know what's going on with dapper?
[04:05] <j2daosh> ya know what... ur best bet is to just hook the lan to the modem and then use the lan
[04:05] <martinex> I know that's devel version so I should expect problems
[04:05] <j2daosh> or wan i mean
[04:05] <sklav> Hi guys
[04:05] <greg> anymore ideas :(
[04:05] <martinex> but I upgraded dapper recently and now it doesn't work with network...
[04:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: I'm working on it... it's just weird. o_O
[04:06] <lemur> I'm trying to install matlab on ubuntu amd64, but the install script exits with /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission Denied
[04:06] <timfrost> Rexbron, what are you trying to set the resolution to?
[04:06] <martinex> is there any known issue with kernel and dapper?
[04:06] <arrinmurr> s_spiff: xpdf, gpdf, kpdf, kghostview ...
[04:06] <lemur> The whole thing is this: -su: /cdrom/install: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[04:06] <Rexbron> 1280x720
[04:07] <woodgrain> I needs to load up a new JRE.  do I want the RPM or the 'linux self extracting file'??
[04:07] <j2daosh> yeah... u have to do a su - not - su
[04:07] <j2daosh> just use sudo
[04:07] <lemur> j2daosh: I'm not doing anything, it's matlab
[04:07] <mack> whats the linux equivalent to .exe or is their one?
[04:07] <timfrost> Rexbron, is that offered by 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?  If not, you will need to manually create a mode line
[04:07] <j2daosh> put in your pw and install
[04:07] <sproingie> !tell woodgrain about javadebs
[04:07] <Rexbron> Its not
[04:08] <j2daosh> then u might not have permission or your su is still disabled
[04:08] <j2daosh> mack... there it none
[04:08] <j2daosh> is
[04:08] <luisito> hello!!
[04:08] <Rexbron> how do i vreate a mode line
[04:08] <lemur> mack: file attributes will be executable
[04:08] <Rexbron> create
[04:08] <sproingie> hm, javadebs doesn't include Seveas's java debs
[04:08] <lemur> j2daosh: well, I'm logged in as root...I believe su works fine
[04:08] <j2daosh> in order to make any file executable it has to have the x in the listing
[04:08] <mack> well what does it mean when it says i have no acceptable c compiler
[04:09] <j2daosh> lemur... ur logged in as root but the su script wont work?
[04:09] <mack> in bash that is?
[04:09] <j2daosh> that u have no compatible c compiler
[04:09] <j2daosh> lol
[04:09] <lemur> j2daosh: I don't know what the error message means, really
[04:09] <mack> how do i get one ?
[04:09] <greg> another thing that's weird is my mouse works off of USB and it's reconized, but i have a digital camera, but it's not reconized
[04:10] <j2daosh> lemur... if it is saying permission denied something is going wrong where either it cant gain root access or the script is off
[04:10] <woodgrain> sproingie, yeah, i get 'forbidden' ... can't I just take something off the sun site?
[04:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=12813&page=2 has a bit of a writeup on your problem.
[04:10] <buulian> has anyone thought of making a flux-ubuntu subproject?
[04:10] <lemur> j2daosh: could be the script...it's weird because I'm running it as root
[04:10] <j2daosh> i belive (and im only speculating) u can use the sudo apt-get install gcc compiler
[04:10] <Rexbron> timfrost, could you tell me how to do that
[04:10] <j2daosh> but i dont know if it is called gcc or whatnot
[04:10] <j2daosh> use synaptic and search for compiler
[04:11] <timfrost> Rexbron, see http://www.inria.fr/cgi-bin/nph-colas-modelines
[04:11] <_jason2> ubotu, tell woodgrain about java
[04:11] <j2daosh> could very well be lemur... do a more on the file and then look for where it fails
[04:11] <j2daosh> well try to match up
[04:11] <lemur> mack: make sure you install the package "build-essential"
[04:11] <Granis`> How can I, if it's possible, set the desktop background image or color when im using xorg and twm? (The default looks horrible on my TV)
[04:11] <greg> well heck
[04:11] <j2daosh> but i gotta go now cuz i gotta go to work tomorrow and fix our 20 year old Data General mainframe that seems to have died today lol
[04:12] <greg> i'll give up on it for now and try again some other time
[04:12] <timfrost> Rexbron, drat, that page has been removed
[04:12] <greg> the modem i've got is working just fine at this moment
[04:12] <woodgrain> _jason, I !javadebs ... but get a bot non-answer.
[04:12] <greg> give it a few minutes that'll change
[04:12] <greg> but i'll just stick it out i guess
[04:12] <mack> well i guess i need to read some linux stuff im tired a messing with this for now thanks...all.........damn winxp
[04:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: Murphy's law ;)
[04:12] <greg> and maybe try a different modem
[04:12] <_jason2> woodgrain, you can just type 'javadebs' if you are messaging the bot directly
[04:12] <greg> cya, and thanks anyways.
[04:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> greg: Best of luck.
[04:13] <Pavix> Anyone wanna take a crack at this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6940
[04:13] <timfrost> Rexbron, try http://koala.ilog.fr/cgi-bin/nph-colas-modelines
[04:14] <narles> create a new file called ~/.gtkpod/gtkpod.out.. <-- what type of command would i use to do that?
[04:14] <_jason2> Pavix, can you post your sources.list?
[04:14] <Pavix> narles: touch
[04:14] <s_spiff> anyone here use azuerus?
[04:14] <Pavix> Yea, I'll post the whole file
[04:15] <sockpuppe1> has anyone installed wxmusik ever?
[04:15] <luisito> Seveas, are you here?
[04:15] <Pavix> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6941
[04:15] <timfrost> Pavix, I suspect that you have disabled your main repository.  All those packages are in main (not on the CD)
[04:15] <narles> Pavix, i don't know how to do that
[04:16] <Pavix> narles: simply type the command
[04:16] <Phuzion> Alright, I just tried to install Unreal3.2.3 to my Ubuntu server, and it came up with a pletohra of errors while making
[04:16] <dos-assassin> I need some serious help with tar.bz2 files
[04:16] <narles> pavix, check PM
[04:16] <Pavix> type: touch ~/gtkpod/gtkpod.out
[04:16] <armor98926> hey people
[04:16] <Toma-> Phuzion: stick it on a paste bin
[04:16] <narles> ok
[04:16] <_jason2> Pavix, uncomment lines 3 and 4 in your sources
[04:16] <fluffyashes> anyone up for a little mplayer trouble shooting?
[04:16] <armor98926> im trying to get on a chat site, but i cant see the words or names, what do i need?
[04:17] <sockpuppe1> fluffyashes somehat
[04:17] <korkow> hey, i have a 64 bit compy, and i was wondering if it would be worth it to use the 64bit OS
[04:17] <sockpuppe1> *somewhat
[04:17] <korkow> is it faster?
[04:17] <Toma-> korkow: yes
[04:17] <Pavix> Ok, uncommented and doing an update now
[04:17] <korkow> okay... is there any easy way to upgrade, other than reinstalling the whole OS
[04:17] <theeil> i thought my wireless network card was not working but it turns out that it was just disabled. WHY was this the case? would it not be nicer for users if it were enabled by default?
[04:17] <dos-assassin> I just downloaded gpgme-0.3.16-compled-i586.tar.bz2 and I can unpack it but I can't configure it
[04:18] <Phuzion> Toma-  Any specific highlighting to use?
[04:18] <Phuzion> None?
[04:18] <Pavix> _jason2: I feel like a dumbass. It's getting the deps' now
[04:18] <Toma-> no... just use this link
[04:18] <Toma-> !pastebin
[04:18] <Pavix> Thanks
[04:18] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:18] <armor98926> can anyone help me/
[04:19] <Phuzion> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6942
[04:19] <Toma-> armor98926: probably.
[04:19] <armor98926> Toma: hey im trying to get on a chat site, but i cant see the words that the other people type
[04:19] <Phuzion> armor98926:  What is your client for chat?
[04:19] <korkow> dos-assassin, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:19] <theeil> armor98926: why would anyone do that in the Ubuntu support channel?
[04:19] <korkow> than try
[04:19] <dos-assassin> And that does what for me?
[04:20] <korkow> just do it
[04:20] <armor98926> Phuzion: Java i think, im not exactly sure
[04:20] <armor98926> theeil: what do you mean?
[04:20] <Phuzion> Oh, it's on a webpage?
[04:20] <korkow> it installs all the programs necessary to compile
[04:20] <Toma-> Phuzion: you should run make as a normal user....
[04:20] <holyguacomole> so... ah... problem... how do i install linksys drivers for a wireless card? i have them downloaded but all i got are .exe's and stuff... (linux newb here <---)
[04:20] <Toma-> Phuzion: and use checkinstall instead of "make install" in the end
[04:20] <armor98926> Phuzion: its on myspace chat, i cant see any of the words that other people type
[04:20] <Rexbron> timfrost, where do you insert the mode line (in what section of the file)?
[04:20] <theeil> armor98926: don't take my words at their literal value
[04:20] <Toma-> Phuzion: also, did you run configure?
[04:21] <timfrost> Rexbron, in the monitor definition
[04:21] <armor98926> theeil: ok??? now im confused :)
[04:21] <lowman62> hello techsupport room
[04:21] <theeil> armor98926: help ppl is what we do here
[04:21] <narles> o do this, create a new file called ~/.gtkpod/gtkpod.out (create the .gtkpod directory in your home directory first) containing the following text:
[04:21] <narles> sudo /usr/bin/eject /dev/sda2
[04:21] <armor98926> theeil: i know, thats why im here
[04:21] <narles> i'm hving trouble doing the above... any help?
[04:21] <Phuzion> Toma-:  Yes, I ran configure.
[04:21] <Phuzion> But no, it's not working to run make as a regular user
[04:21] <sally_> holyguacomole: what kind of card do you have and are you trying to use ndiswrapper
[04:22] <Phuzion> armor98926:  MySpace chat never works for me via Firefox.
[04:22] <celes> okay.. somehow i think something messed up on install
[04:22] <dos-assassin> I still get the error "no such file or directory"
[04:22] <Rexbron> timefrost, do i have to restart for the changes to take effect?
[04:22] <Toma-> Phuzion: there is no normal user?
[04:22] <woodgrain> how do i get nautilus to show hidden files?
[04:22] <Toma-> woodgrain: ctrl-H
[04:22] <LittleBoot> Hey, I might be in the wrong place; can any body direct me to a suse channel where I can figure out how to add intallation sources
[04:22] <armor98926> Phuzion: same here (firefox as well) what do you need for it to work? i got other sites to work but this one doesn't
[04:22] <Phuzion> Toma-:  No, there is one, but it's not working when I do, I'm getting about 200 permission denieds
[04:22] <celes> i got to the 'install packages' part, something was uninstallable, so i pressed continue, then it sends me to a 'dos-looking' screen where i login
[04:23] <Phuzion> armor98926:  I haven't figured it out yet.
[04:23] <Toma-> Phuzion: thats because youre compiling it in /etc for some strange reason
[04:23] <armor98926> Phuzion: ok thanx anyway
[04:23] <Phuzion> Toma-:  Where should I compile it?
[04:23] <celes> i login and all it shows is 'name@name$' or something
[04:23] <celes> does anyone know what i did wrong?
[04:23] <Toma-> Phuzion: in the user's /home
[04:23] <armor98926> Toma: you said you might be able to help?
[04:23] <Phuzion> Alright
[04:23] <timfrost> Rexbron, you need to restart the X server (CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE), but you don't have to reboot.
[04:23] <skierkegaard> i cant get two applications to have sound at the same time (ie a java applet and gaim)
[04:23] <vali> is there any way to get the kde apps in the start menu?
[04:23] <Toma-> armor98926: i say probably because i didnt know what your question was
[04:24] <dos-assassin> Can anyone help me with this?
[04:24] <armor98926> Toma: alright my question is
[04:24] <narles> o do this, create a new file called ~/.gtkpod/gtkpod.out (create the .gtkpod directory in your home directory first) containing the following text:
[04:24] <narles> sudo /usr/bin/eject /dev/sda2
[04:24] <armor98926> Toma: im trying to use the chat client on myspace, but i cant see what i type or what the others type, what do i need?
[04:24] <narles> i'm hving trouble doing the above... any help?
[04:25] <Toma-> armor98926: no idea. i dont use myspace. also, i dont think myspace is a part of ubuntu :O
[04:25] <FlyingSquirrel32> dooglus: you still there?
[04:25] <armor98926> Toma: i know that, but i need the proper program to install and that program is part of ubuntu
[04:25] <celes> anyone here can help me out?
[04:25] <Phuzion> Is there a way to see what is running on my server at the moment?
[04:25] <Toma-> armor98926: whats the link to the chat thing?
[04:25] <Phuzion> Something like Control Alt Delete
[04:26] <Mabus06> system monitor, Phuzion
[04:26] <armor98926> Toma: you have to be a member of myspace but the link is
[04:26] <Toma-> Phuzion: you can use "ps aux" or "top"
[04:26] <skierkegaard> i cant get two applications to have sound at the same time (ie a java applet and gaim)
[04:26] <timfrost> narles, whatr error are you getting?
[04:26] <Toma-> armor98926: well i wont be able to find out :(
[04:26] <Mabus06> on gnome its applicatoins > system > system monitor I think
[04:26] <FlyingSquirrel32> celes: what were you trying to install?
[04:26] <armor98926> Toma: ok thanks anyway
[04:26] <Phuzion> I'm running terminal only
[04:26] <theconartist> what is the difference between an "auto" and "auto/air" power adapter
[04:26] <narles> timfrost, i don't know how to create the gtkpod.out file in /gtkpod
[04:26] <armor98926> Toma: do you have an account on games.com?
[04:26] <LittleBoot> can somebody direct me to a suse suport channel?
[04:26] <theconartist> (auto meaning cars)
[04:26] <Toma-> armor98926: no
[04:27] <dos-assassin> Can anyone help me before this OS drives me crazy?
[04:27] <armor98926> Toma: have you heard of chat-avenue.com?
[04:27] <timfrost> narles, try 'gedit ~/.gtkpod/gtkpod.out'
[04:27] <Toma-> armor98926: no.
[04:27] <Toma-> dos-assassin: dunno. ask.
[04:27] <narles> timfrost, thanks
[04:27] <armor98926> Toma: do you have an account on gaiaonline.com? or gogaia.com?
[04:27] <Toma-> armor98926: no no
[04:28] <skierkegaard> can someone help, i cant get two applications to have sound at the same time (ie a java applet and gaim)
[04:28] <FlyingSquirrel32> LittleBoot: #suse ??
[04:28] <armor98926> Toma: alright thanx anyway those are all i need it for
[04:28] <celes> To anyone willing to help: I think i'm at 'terminal' after i attempt to install KDE
[04:28] <armor98926> can anyone help me?e
[04:28] <armor98926> me?*
[04:28] <celes> but what do i do now?
[04:28] <dos-assassin> Alright... I downloaded a tar.bz2 file... I got it to unpack without a problem using tar xvjf package.tar.bz2 and when I cd'ed to the unpacked folder and tried to ./configure it says file or directory not found
[04:28] <MachineScrew> skierkegaard, what kind of sound card do you have
[04:28] <stpere> dos-assassin, probably because it's not there yet
[04:28] <Toma-> dos-assassin: did the package make a configure file?
[04:28] <LittleBoot> yeah , I can only get this IRC thing to work under Ubuntu and I need to get to suse.
[04:28] <timfrost> narles, after saving the file , you may need to make it executable with 'chmod 755  ~/.gtkpod/gtkpod.out'
[04:28] <skierkegaard> MachineScrew, how do i check?
[04:28] <MachineScrew> in gnome right
[04:29] <LittleBoot> By the way I dont even know how to work the IRC stuff
[04:29] <stpere> dos-assassin, type "ls"
[04:29] <skierkegaard> im in gnome
[04:29] <timfrost> celes, what are you trying to do?
[04:29] <dos-assassin> I didn't see one... when I type ls I find lib share and doc...
[04:29] <MachineScrew> System Adminitstration Device Manager
[04:29] <celes> well, i attempt to install KDE. Then it says some problems with a package and it restarted
[04:29] <FlyingSquirrel32> LittleBoot: "#suse" is the name of the channel.
[04:29] <stpere> dos-assassin, ok, it's most certainly a binary package, not a source package
[04:29] <Toma-> dos-assassin: looks like a pre-compiled package... whats it for?
[04:29] <FlyingSquirrel32> LittleBoot: what program are you using to see this channel?
[04:30] <celes> basically it's at a 'dos-looking' screen
[04:30] <celes> where it tells me to login
[04:30] <stpere> dos-assassin, firefox-1.5?
[04:30] <LittleBoot> X chat 2.4.4
[04:30] <Toma-> celes: that is a terminal
[04:30] <celes> i login, and it shows 'linux' blah blah
[04:30] <lysis> where are gnome's panels found?   i'm in $HOME and i did ls -la and none of the .gnome folders hold them that i could see.
[04:30] <dos-assassin> Gyach... I use yahoo alot and I used to talk over the voice server... and I needed something easy to use to talk on voice and this is proving to be a pain in my as
[04:30] <celes> oh i see..
[04:30] <celes> now i'm not quite sure what i'm supposed to do at terminal
[04:30] <MachineScrew> the other quick way it to double click on the volume icon
[04:30] <armor98926> does anyone have a myspace account?
[04:30] <Toma-> celes: why are u at a terminal?
[04:31] <armor98926> if you do maybe the you people can help me
[04:31] <celes> i'm not quite sure
[04:31] <celes> i restarted
[04:31] <FlyingSquirrel32> celes: well, I doubt it will work, but try "startx" that will hopefully start X (the windows kind of place)
[04:31] <celes> and it takes me to terminal
[04:31] <trae> !firefox
[04:31] <skierkegaard> on the volume it says intel 828 and a bunch more numbers
[04:31] <MachineScrew> skierkegaard, also if you double click on the volume icon the title bar should say what the card is
[04:31] <timfrost> Toma-, celes X has either not started or has crashed.
[04:31] <MachineScrew> ok
[04:31] <dos-assassin> I just really want this prog to work so I can get back on the mic and talk to my friends... but in order to use the voice I need certain library files and this package happens to be one of them... any clue how I could use it?
[04:31] <skierkegaard> intel 82801DB-ICH4
[04:31] <MachineScrew> some where to start with ok
[04:31] <Toma-> timfrost: thx for the tip.
[04:31] <MachineScrew> cool
[04:32] <timfrost> celes, what happens if you press ALT-F7?
[04:32] <MachineScrew> is this a notebook
[04:32] <trae> !firefox1.5
[04:32] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:32] <skierkegaard> yes
[04:32] <FlyingSquirrel32> LittleBoot: I go to Server>Join channel> and then type "#suse" in the box an say OK
[04:32] <stpere> dos-assassin, simply move it to your /usr/ directory, by typing this :
[04:32] <LittleBoot> Squirrel 32 : Thanks, chatch ya later.
[04:32] <MachineScrew> skierkegaard, what was the card again
[04:32] <celes> nothing
[04:33] <lowman62> Ctrl-Alt-F7
[04:33] <dos-assassin> Just type a colon?
[04:33] <stpere> dos-assassin, sudo cp -r your_directory_after_tar_xvjf /usr/
[04:33] <skierkegaard> intel 82801DB-ICH4
[04:33] <stpere> let me test it quickly
[04:33] <MachineScrew> ok
[04:33] <FlyingSquirrel32> celes: try "sudo apt-get update"
[04:33] <Toma-> celes: copy all this, and paste it into the terminal then give us the link after thats all run. "wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin && chmod +x ./pastebin && tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log | ./pastebin"
[04:33] <stpere> I'm always confused about this
[04:33] <FlyingSquirrel32> celes:listen to Toma
[04:34] <MachineScrew> skierkegaard, is it a laptop
[04:34] <skierkegaard> yes
[04:34] <stpere> dos-assassin, I knew it forgot a simple thing
[04:34] <stpere> dos-assassin, sudo cp -r your_directory_after_tar_xvjf/* /usr/
[04:34] <Toma-> celes: better yet, "tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE" and paste whatever comes up in here
[04:34] <MachineScrew> ok
[04:35] <stpere> dos-assassin, then type ldconfig
[04:35] <stpere> dos-assassin, sudo ldconfig
[04:35] <Linfanguin> is there away to show album art when i use rythmbox
[04:35] <Linfanguin> ?
[04:35] <stpere> dos-assassin, (the second one, first was wrong)
[04:35] <celes> okay. give me a few. just to let u know, it says 'willy login'
[04:35] <Linfanguin> any plug ins?
[04:35] <dos-assassin> It usually does... I am sorry I am kind of new to this whole Linux thing so I am getting used to the new commands... but what does your_directory_after_tar_xvjf/* mean? I mean do you have an example or something?>
[04:35] <Toma-> celes: your default user is "willy" right? :D
[04:35] <woodgrain> I've just meticulously followed the Java install from ubuntu help -- I get no errors, but I have no locate-jre results.  HELP?
[04:36] <thewayofzen> apt-get install *whichpackage*   ---->  will add the right click menu option to open a terminal?
[04:36] <Toma-> woodgrain: did you updatedb before you ran locate?
[04:37] <narles> timfrost, it doesn't seem that the file has been created
[04:37] <stpere> dos-assassin, if you have a directory name let say dir1 and you have files named file1,file2,file3... in there, cp -r dir1/* /usr/ will copy each of those files to the directory following (/usr)
[04:37] <armor98926> does anyone have a myspace account?
[04:37] <MachineScrew> skierkegaard, see I think, and I might be wrong, but ALSA has a hard time doing 2 sounds simultaniously it fakes it well though
[04:37] <woodgrain> Toma-, i'm sudo updatedb right now -- seems to be hanging (or is this a slow process??)
[04:37] <Toma-> woodgrain: oh, its a very slow process :)
[04:37] <skierkegaard> ok, so is there something i can change?
[04:37] <Toma-> but its well worth the wait
[04:37] <stpere> dos-assassin, the -r thing is to say to the cp command that if file1 was a directory, to enter it and copy each files in there
[04:37] <woodgrain> Toma-, yeah, still going ..
[04:38] <dos-assassin> Ok... so how would I find out my directory name? *Feels completely retarded*
[04:38] <celes> okay
[04:38] <timfrost> narles, does the directory  ~/.gtkpod exist (ls -ld  ~/.gtkpod)?
[04:38] <celes> it says my data has been posted
[04:38] <celes> yes it is
[04:38] <MachineScrew> skierkegaard, well if you could some how incress the number of chanales but I am not shure how to do that
[04:38] <stpere> dos-assassin, it's in your home directory that you downloaded the compressed file?
[04:38] <MachineScrew> skierkegaard, might be a module parm
[04:38] <stpere> dos-assassin, or rather your desktop?
[04:39] <narles> timfrost, i think so yes
[04:39] <dos-assassin> Yeah it is on my desktop
[04:39] <MachineScrew> it has surround sound right
[04:39] <stpere> dos-assassin, cd ~/Desktop
[04:39] <skierkegaard> dunno
[04:39] <narles> /home/daemon/.gtkpod
[04:39] <Toma-> celes: whats the link?
[04:39] <arbir> hello
[04:39] <stpere> dos-assassin, the capital letter is significant
[04:39] <woodgrain> Toma-, I have a decently fast P4 ... should I still be waiting?
[04:39] <MachineScrew> intels web site said it did
[04:39] <skierkegaard> there is another device listed in the volume control i just noticed
[04:39] <stpere> dos-assassin, now type ls
[04:39] <woodgrain> Toma-,  it just finished!!
[04:39] <Toma-> woodgrain: have you run updatedb before?
[04:39] <dos-assassin> I know... I only type in cd Desktop...
[04:39] <Toma-> woodgrain: cool :)
[04:40] <arbir> I am finally in with the new Ubuntu
[04:40] <dos-assassin> Ok typed that in
[04:40] <timfrost> narles, what does 'ls -ld  /home/daemon/.gtkpod' display?
[04:40] <celes> sorry, a bit new at this: paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6942
[04:40] <woodgrain> Toma-,  no never before -- but it worked and now I have all the files I need.
[04:40] <MachineScrew> its the OSS driver
[04:40] <Toma-> woodgrain: rad. :)
[04:40] <skierkegaard> yes
[04:40] <woodgrain> Toma-, rad is right!
[04:40] <stpere> dos-assassin, now begin to type the cp -r command, but only type the first letters of the directory name
[04:40] <arbir> how can i change my DPI ?
[04:40] <stpere> dos-assassin, now, press the TAB key
[04:40] <leftist> hello
[04:40] <armor98926> hi
[04:40] <vincenz> How do I install java on ubuntu?
[04:41] <Toma-> !javadebs
[04:41] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy.  UNOFFICIAL debs of more recent JRE's can be found in Seveas's repositories.  See wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:41] <leftist> i use NVU for my dreamweaver substitute, what can i use for flash?
[04:41] <woodgrain> Toma-, I don't have a path to the JRE -- do I need to add it?
[04:41] <Toma-> like that ^^
[04:41] <stpere> dos-assassin, did it completed it for you?
[04:41] <narles> drwxr-xr-x  2 narles daemon 4096 2006-01-10 22:37 /home/daemon/.gtkpod
[04:41] <Toma-> woodgrain: ...a path?? you compiling somehting?
[04:41] <arbir> hi Seveas
[04:41] <dos-assassin> It would if I knew what my directory name was or even what it started with lol
[04:41] <woodgrain> vincenz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c249
[04:41] <woodgrain> vincenz, it works if you do exactly what they say.
[04:42] <stpere> dos-assassin, it's named exactly as your file on the desktop
[04:42] <armor98926> anyone have myspace?
[04:42] <stpere> dos-assassin, without the extension, this time
[04:42] <woodgrain> Toma-, well I'm trying to run this IDE called eclipse that needs java ... does it know how to find it?
[04:42] <arbir> is there no way i can change my DPI ?
[04:42] <Toma-> you might need the jdk
[04:42] <vincenz> woodgrain: and eclipse?
[04:42] <timfrost> narles, permissions look OK, butr why /home/daemon, rather than /home/narles?
[04:42] <skierkegaard> MachineScrew, any ideas?
[04:43] <dos-assassin> Ok, so like I would type cp -r gpgme-et ali/* /usr/
[04:43] <dos-assassin> ?
[04:43] <woodgrain> Toma-, don't need jdk as witnessed by #eclipse IRC
[04:43] <stpere> dos-assassin, is there a space in the name?
[04:43] <Toma-> ok
[04:43] <stpere> dos-assassin, that won't be good
[04:43] <woodgrain> vincenz, having lots of problems with eclipse -- but I'm a noob so I can't expect more.
[04:43] <dos-assassin> No, et ali is a phrase... like etc.
[04:44] <Korupt> I got it to work.... wooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!
[04:44] <woodgrain> vincenz, do you know eclipse?
[04:44] <leftist> how can you work with flash in ubuntu?
[04:44] <vincenz> woodgrain: yeah
[04:44] <narles> timfrost, don't know... thanks though.. i'm gona restart and see if things fix up
[04:44] <stpere> dos-assassin, oh, ok then it should work, just remember to type sudo cp -r ....
[04:44] <stpere> then password asked is your user password
[04:44] <dos-assassin> zok I figured out what to do... but it says all the files are the same
[04:44] <Toma-> woodgrain: have you installed "eclipse-base"???
[04:45] <Korupt> vincenz, I got my setup to work so that I can hunt for WEP, WPA, and open wifi nets
[04:45] <arbir> hi Amaranth.. are you there ? Can you please help me ?
[04:45] <Amaranth> Depends on the question.
[04:45] <stpere> dos-assassin, are you sure you didn't already had the library in question?
[04:45] <arbir> Amaranth: how can i change my DPI ?
[04:45] <woodgrain> Toma-, no I'm installing this newer ver from the eclipse site.
[04:46] <Toma-> rightio
[04:46] <Amaranth> No clue.
[04:46] <dos-assassin> I don't think I did no, it was supposed to be a requirement for Gyach
[04:46] <arbir> my eyes are dead.. i am running 1920 x 1200 and my fonts are like ants
[04:47] <arbir> thanks Amaranth.
[04:47] <vincenz> Korupt: how
[04:47] <timfrost> celes, paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6942 isn't xserver logs. Are you sure that pastebin worked?
[04:47] <celes> hjj
[04:47] <dos-assassin> But if it says I did then I suppose I did... *Feels like a real genius now cause he spent about half an hour installing something that was already there
[04:47] <stpere> dos-assassin, hmm.. Ubuntu comes with gpgme according to my synaptic
[04:47] <celes> hrm.
[04:47] <lowman62> I installed the sun jdk and did this to fire up eclipse if this helps /opt/sun/jdk/bin/java -jar /opt/eclipse/startup.jar
[04:47] <celes> it says file/direcotry doesn't exist.
[04:47] <celes> i'll try again
[04:48] <stpere> dos-assassin, you are trying to compile a program that requires that particular library?
[04:48] <NCLife> does somebody knows why my ipod doesnt show up on /etc/fstab? is there any way to get it there
[04:48] <timfrost> celes, what file/directory doesn't exist?
[04:48] <dos-assassin> Yeah... Gyach requires alot... not nessecarily to function but to access voice servers and such
[04:48] <celes>  VAR/LOG/XORG.0.LOG
[04:49] <dos-assassin> Jasper, GtkHTML, PyGtk-2, and GPGMe Basically those
[04:49] <Toma-> celes: dont use capitals. its /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:49] <stpere> type this: sudo apt-get install libgpgme11-dev
[04:49] <dos-assassin> stpere, How do you find out what libraries are installed already?
[04:49] <Pavix> who was it that gave me the link to fix launchcast?
[04:49] <timfrost> celes, the name is /var/log/Xorg.0.log  (case-sensitive)
[04:49] <starscalling> crap
[04:49] <starscalling> i just did something totally dumb
[04:49] <lowman62> NCLife: I installed Itunes and I can access mine with that...but I use crossover to install ITunes
[04:50] <stpere> dos-assassin, in the system menu, go to administration
[04:50] <starscalling> i installed ubuntu and i dont know what username i used !_!
[04:50] <woodgrain> vincenz, how do I tell eclipse where the JRE is?
[04:50] <stpere> dos-assassin, then open up synaptic
[04:50] <starscalling> <<--- went to get food in the middle of it
[04:50] <stpere> dos-assassin, then press the search button
[04:50] <starscalling> is there a way to hack my ubuntu or do i have to install AGAIN>?
[04:50] <Plazma> Has anyone gotten an ipod to work with firewire in ubuntu?
[04:50] <NCLife> lowman62, i guess that makes it easier to handle :)
[04:50] <starscalling> not with firewire here Plazma
[04:50] <starscalling> but if you do df -h can u see where its mounted?
[04:51] <celes> it still says
[04:51] <dos-assassin> Ok after I search then what?
[04:51] <Toma-> starscalling: ls /home, will tell you the user installed
[04:51] <celes> no files exit
[04:51] <NCLife> my ipod still have a lot of problems to fix
[04:51] <lowman62> NCLife: well I almost gave up..but that solved it for me LOL :P
[04:51] <celes> file/directory*
[04:51] <celes> exist*(****
[04:51] <starscalling> Toma-, i cant figure how to get into it to see whats up
[04:51] <Plazma> starscalling, its not even detecting itas a drive
[04:51] <Toma-> celes: can you run X?
[04:51] <celes> by typing startx?
[04:51] <NCLife> lowman62, did you have to bought crossover?
[04:51] <starscalling> Plazma, do you have any other firewire devices?
[04:51] <Toma-> starscalling: i see. you wanna get into the machine without login?
[04:51] <NCLife> buy*
[04:51] <starscalling> if i can Toma-
[04:51] <Plazma> starscalling, no
[04:51] <starscalling> its a fresh install
[04:51] <Toma-> u can
[04:52] <starscalling> if i know the user name i can do the pass
[04:52] <Toma-> celes: yes
[04:52] <stpere> starscalling, if you have a liveCD, it's quite easy
[04:52] <starscalling> i dont
[04:52] <vincenz> woodgrain: doesn't explain for the compiler tools however
[04:52] <Toma-> starscalling: at grub, there will be a recovery mode you can use
[04:52] <starscalling> Plazma, perhaps the problem lies in the firewier thing
[04:52] <celes> command not found
[04:52] <stpere> starscalling, or a linux bootdisk?
[04:52] <lowman62> NCLife: yes I did..but you know what? it was worth it cause I had a bunch of other software I liked in windows that I can now use such as Adobe Photoshop ;)
[04:52] <holyguacomole> OK... i give in... i'm brand new to linux, and I can't figure out how to use the gnome terminal to install ndiswrapper.
[04:52] <starscalling> oic thanx Toma-
[04:52] <Plazma> starscalling, well the card itslef works in winblows and so doest he ipod so
[04:52] <Toma-> celes: re-install
[04:52] <stpere> Toma-, oh, simpler than what I thought
[04:52] <woodgrain> vincenz, I don't understand.
[04:52] <Plazma> the hardware isnt failed.. and dmesg picks up my firewire card
[04:53] <Plazma> but complains about sbp2
[04:53] <celes> Alright. Thanks.
[04:53] <starscalling> Plazma, in windows does it assign it a drive letter?
[04:53] <celes> i'm staying in here just in case another error popped up
[04:53] <stpere> dos-assassin, you search for the library you want to know if it's there
[04:53] <Plazma> starscalling,
[04:53] <Plazma> yes
[04:53] <dos-assassin> Jasper isn't
[04:53] <starscalling> ok
[04:53] <Toma-> !ipod
[04:53] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[04:53] <starscalling> then its firewire drivers that you need most likely
[04:53] <NCLife> lowman62: thats true, its worth it
[04:53] <s_spiff> ! subtitles
[04:54] <ubotu> s_spiff: Not a clue
[04:54] <vincenz> woodgrain: it only installs runtime, not the compiler
[04:54] <starscalling> check hotplug + firewire
[04:54] <s_spiff> someone tell me.. totem loads subtitles?
[04:54] <s_spiff>  which player can i use for subtitles?
[04:54] <Korupt> vincenz, modified the wpa_supplicant script to check to see if there was an executable for each AP.... if there is it executes that and skips wpa_supplicant
[04:54] <starscalling> o.o
[04:54] <celes> should i install basic components or 'default' for KDE?
[04:55] <starscalling> Toma-, is there a way to put a password on this recovery mode from here on out??
[04:55] <Toma-> s_spiff: Totem does subtitles. its under View>Subtitles
[04:55] <starscalling> scawwy hole in my security
[04:55] <Toma-> starscalling: it'll ask for the root password when you load it up
[04:55] <s_spiff> ok
[04:55] <s_spiff> thnx
[04:55] <Toma-> s_spiff: np :)
[04:55] <vincenz> Korupt: neat
[04:55] <s_spiff> toma
[04:55] <starscalling> it sure didnt Toma-
[04:56] <Toma-> starscalling: .... u sure?
[04:56] <s_spiff> what if i want to load the subtitles?
[04:56] <starscalling> im betting by default with no root pass its the same on all
[04:56] <starscalling> yes im sure
[04:56] <Toma-> starscalling: you set the root pass at install
[04:56] <Toma-> s_spiff: from a file?
[04:56] <starscalling> nope u dont Toma-
[04:56] <zuverink> I attempted to install ubunto yesterday and it died at the stage after rebbot, I suspect during the configuring of X, it totally froze and showed a black screen with a non-blinking cursor in the upper left corner, I rebooted and could not get it to load anything but in recovery mode.  Any Idea on how I can resolve this issue?
[04:56] <starscalling> you set user pass for sudo and NO root pass lol
[04:57] <Toma-> ahh yes.
[04:57] <s_spiff> yea
[04:58] <dos-assassin> Ok, so does anyone know where I can find Jasper and PyGTK-2?
[04:58] <Toma-> starscalling: you can get rid of recovery mode altogether in the grub menu.lst file
[04:58] <Toma-> s_spiff: not sure. probably with xine ?
[04:59] <Toma-> also starscalling, single user mode has always been an issue. there a whole bunch of ways of disabling it, if someone in your house posess a security threat :)
[05:01] <starscalling> gotcha Toma-
[05:01] <starscalling> ill just set a root password as i like using su lol
[05:01] <Toma-> starscalling: rightio. ive got a root password set too, but i still prefer sudo :P
[05:02] <zuverink> Any Idea where I might find some help on that above stated install issue?
[05:02] <Toma-> starscalling: you can set passwords on particular grub options, like the recovery mode
[05:03] <Toma-> starscalling: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/security-guide/s1-wstation-boot-sec.html if youre interested
[05:04] <starscalling> o:
[05:04] <starscalling> totally awesome thanx Toma-
[05:04] <Toma-> np
[05:05] <veganpops> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/cernlib/+bug/6588
[05:05] <veganpops> How do I go about getting this universe bug fix encorporated into Brezy?
[05:06] <theeil> can i get the old school nautilius navigation bar back?
[05:06] <veganpops> I reported this bug, discussed it with the original .deb maintainer, and fixed it per his instructions.
[05:06] <veganpops> I rebuilt all of the cernlib packages and installed them on my Breezy system.
[05:07] <veganpops> However, automatic update keeps wanting to replace them with the buggy versions.
[05:08] <veganpops> It would be nice to replace the buggy packages with the working ones.
[05:08] <vincenz> How do I turn off the touchpad?
[05:08] <aeon17x> Does the AMD 64 version of Ubuntu have okay hardware support like the 32-bit version?
[05:09] <vincenz> !touchpad
[05:09] <bimberi> veganpops: a workaround (to prevent the auto update) could be to lock the package versions (Package menu in Synaptic)
[05:09] <ubotu> Not a clue, vincenz
[05:10] <veganpops> bimberi: thanks. Any idea how to get the official packages updated? The original package maintainer only supports Debian.
[05:10] <lysis> HELP! what bootloader will allow me to type something simple like "boot into dapper drake"?   i do a lot on my pc from work, so i'd like to be able to reboot into my other distros i have installed if possible.
[05:11] <veganpops> bimberi: He is as clueless as I on how to get official updates to Ubuntu .deb packages.
[05:11] <vincenz> How do I turn off the touchpad?
[05:11] <veganpops> lysis: I don't think I understand your question. Most bootloaders, lilo, grub, should do that.
[05:12] <GhostFreeman> Is there an application I can use to limit bandwidth per running process
[05:12] <veganpops> lysis: Wouldn't it be the same as booting into windows or linux? Am I missing something?
[05:12] <lysis> veganpops, i have 3 separate ubuntu partitions.  one is my primary, one is my testing (so i don't break the primary haha) and one is dapper drake to check it out.    i have to modify /boot/grub/menu.lst and change the default partition to boot into while i'm SSH'd into my box from away
[05:13] <lysis> all of my partitions have SSH installed, and i'd like to be able to do work on all of them while away.
[05:13] <veganpops> lysis: You like to make life hard for yourself. :)
[05:14] <bimberi> veganpops: sorry i'm not sure - i thought that reporting it on launchpad is the way - perhaps try #ubuntu-motu
[05:14] <bimberi> s/is/was/
[05:14] <lysis> veganpops, i am trying to get E17 working, so i am doing it on my testing ubuntu before i do it live.   i've had to re-install ubuntu 3 times within a week because i effed up E17 everytime.
[05:15] <lysis> veganpops, so because of this, i'd like to figure out how to do "reboot into Testuntu" (what i called testing)          i know SUSE has something similar from what i've heard . . .  PC-BSD has a grpahical interface at the login screen that lets you reboot into a different partition without going through the bootloader.
[05:15] <lysis> veganpops, so basically i'm trying to make my life easier. =)
[05:16] <veganpops> lysis: Perhaps you could write a script do quickly swap menu.lst files and install.
[05:16] <lysis> veganpops, i don't know how. =)    could you direct me where i can learn about writing scripts?
[05:17] <veganpops> lysis: Sorry, I don't know of a pre-packaged solution for this.
[05:17] <lysis> veganpops, that's fine.  i want to learn how to do it. =)
[05:17] <bshumate> lysis: http://www.shelldorado.com/
[05:17] <veganpops> lysis: You can basically make a script just by putting the same commands you type at the command prompt into a file.
[05:17] <bshumate> lysis: it's a great resource for shell scripting! ;-)
[05:17] <lysis> hmmm.
[05:18] <sockpuppe1> can anyone ell me if the wxMusik can be installed?
[05:18] <veganpops> lysis: Then make the file executable. chmod +x myfile
[05:18] <lysis> hmm.   i'll look into this
[05:18] <brx> lysis: also, you might want to check out http://tldp.org/ and search for "bash"
[05:18] <lysis> thanks guys!
[05:19] <veganpops> lysis: I would try something like making menu.lst a soft link.
[05:19] <_jason2> lysis, you also need to have the first line be: #!/usr/bin/bash, google "bash scripting"
[05:19] <B_166-ER-X> what is the IRC program in Console ?
[05:19] <_jason2> B_166-ER-X, irssi
[05:19] <alekandr> B_166-ER-X: bitchx
[05:19] <bur[n] er> B_166-ER-X: irssi, bitchx
[05:19] <vincenz> Anyone know how to disable touchapd?
[05:19] <B_166-ER-X> thx
[05:20] <veganpops> jason: You don't really need the #! stuff, but it makes sure you know what shell your script is using.
[05:20] <bur[n] er> vincenz: screwdriver and scissors? ;)
[05:20] <alekandr> screwdriver + hammer?
[05:20] <alekandr> oh man
[05:20] <vincenz> seriously
[05:20] <bur[n] er> lol
[05:20] <_jason2> veganpops, oh really, I dind't know that. cool
[05:20] <alekandr> bur[n] er: your mind is thinking like mine :] 
[05:20] <bur[n] er> vincenz: depends on the lappie
[05:20] <veganpops> jason: I am a lazy person - :)
[05:21] <vincenz> bur[n] er: latitude dell d610
[05:21] <bur[n] er> vincenz: no hard key I assume?
[05:21] <fluffyashes> anyone know why ubuntu would freeze randomly?  All windows continue to run normally but the mouse won't move
[05:21] <bur[n] er> vincenz: u could unload the synaptics module (it's a synaptics touchpad right?)
[05:21] <vincenz> bur[n] er: no idea
[05:21] <vincenz> bur[n] er: sadly no key no
[05:22] <vincenz> but I never use the touchpad
[05:22] <vincenz> always usb mouse
[05:22] <bur[n] er> vincenz: i'm not sure if that's the preferred way by any means... not sure if it's easy to do in gnome
[05:22] <vincenz> or the little sticky thing
[05:22] <nekostar> wow
[05:22] <fluffyashes> can i get some help?
[05:22] <nekostar> i think my router is going bad
[05:22] <vincenz> just annoying as hell when I'm typing
[05:22] <bur[n] er> vincenz: i hear ya... my compaq has a button to turn it off :\
[05:22] <nekostar> fluffyashes, what do you need
[05:22] <vincenz> on windows it's easier
[05:23] <vincenz> bur[n] er: how do I unload the module
[05:23] <bur[n] er> vincenz: u use gnome right?  not kde?
[05:23] <vincenz> yip
[05:23] <_jason2> vincenz, I have an inpsiron 8200 and the way i disable it is in bios
[05:23] <benplaut> if you make a /root/.bashrc, will it use that scheme when in sudo -s?
[05:23] <vincenz> _jason2: ah interesting
[05:23] <bur[n] er> vincenz: i assume you googled for "turn off touchpad on latitude d610 in ubuntu"
[05:24] <vincenz> no
[05:24] <vincenz> on ubuntu period
[05:24] <arbir> has to go now
[05:24] <benplaut> vincenz: check if you can diable it in the bios
[05:25] <benplaut> is it synaptics?
[05:25] <vincenz> no idea
[05:25] <benh> hrm
[05:25] <benplaut> pastebin me the output of lsmod
[05:25] <benh> he following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:25] <benh>   libgl1-mesa-dev: Depends: libgl1-mesa (= 6.3.2-0ubuntu6) but 6.3.2-0ubuntu6breezy1 is to be installed
[05:25] <benh> wtf !
[05:25] <benh> you can't install libqt3-mt-dev on breezy !
[05:26] <luisito> Viva Automatix!!
[05:26] <celes> anyone here: my installion stops at grub boot loader install
[05:26] <_jason2> !automatix
[05:26] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[05:26] <celes> it says it can't install it
[05:26] <celes> and i tried lilo, and that doesn't work either
[05:26] <benplaut> vincenz: scratch that... your xorg.conf
[05:26] <vincenz> Synaptics
[05:27] <luisito> _jason2, really?!? too late :] 
[05:27] <BxL> !easyubuntu
[05:27] <ubotu> [easyubuntu]  a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntu
[05:27] <bur[n] er> vincenz: it might be alps
[05:27] <vincenz> it says so ini xorg.conf...Synaptics
[05:28] <whatwhat> what firewall do you recomend to me to ubuntu ?
[05:28] <celes> anyone here know what to do about my problem?
[05:29] <sockpuppe1> whatwhat... you have iptables
[05:29] <sockpuppe1> to configure it you can use firestarter
[05:30] <whatwhat> o0
[05:30] <whatwhat> 0o
[05:30] <nate__> hey
[05:30] <sockpuppe1> so I assume i should give you the link
[05:30] <_jason2> whatwhat, why do you need a firewall?
[05:30] <whatwhat> let me try thanks you :p
[05:30] <sockpuppe1> http://www.fs-security.com/
[05:31] <nate__> hey, i need help setting up fluxbox, anybody knowledgeable on the subject?
[05:31] <freak_> how do i turn off graphical bootup and GDM?
[05:31] <whatwhat> _jason2 i don don i need one ? :x lol
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> nate__,  care to give a little more detail?
[05:31] <freak_> nate__, yea
[05:31] <sockpuppe1> nate whats up?
[05:31] <freak_> nate__, whats the question?
[05:31] <nate__> Dr_Willis, i got the package installed, but i'm still using GNOME and i dunno how to switch to fluxbox, i went to the terminal and typed fluxbox but i need to close the GNOME wm first
[05:32] <nate__> whats the command to end the GNOME wm?
[05:32] <_jason2> whatwhat, a fresh ubuntu install has no services running so there is really no point
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> Any way for root to force a logout for whoever is on tty#?
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> nate__,  the gdm screen has a menu that you pick what to loginto.
[05:32] <nate__> oh
[05:32] <freak_> nate__, do you use gdm, xdm, or kdm?
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:32] <_jason2> nate__, I think you logout and then select the wm at the login screen
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> trivial eh?
[05:33] <nate__> whats the gdm?
[05:33] <nate__> sorry i'm pretty noob
[05:33] <nate__> just setup my ubuntu machine 3 days ago.
[05:33] <WhyvasLT> general dong massager
[05:33] <nate__> ooo sounds interesting... ;)
[05:33] <nate__> :P
[05:33] <whatwhat> _jason2 ok i have onl 2 days of this easy lol
[05:33] <sockpuppe1> if fluxbox doesn't show up there come back
[05:33] <WhyvasLT> err
[05:33] <nekostar> fluffyashes, dont just pm thanx
[05:33] <WhyvasLT> genital dong massager
[05:33] <WhyvasLT> sorry
[05:33] <nekostar> i understood whta u said i dont kno wht e problem though
[05:33] <nekostar> er the solution i mean
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> gdm is the fancy "login:" screen you get when ya first bootup
[05:34] <nate__> oh ok
[05:34] <nate__> that was the first thing that i thought
[05:34] <nate__> kk thanks, i'll be back if it doesn't work :)
[05:34] <Pavix> How long should it take to setup a default registry
[05:34] <Pavix> in win
[05:34] <Pavix> wine*
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> Pavix,  just a few moments Id think..
[05:35] <WhyvasLT> WHY DO YOU WANT WINE?
[05:35] <WhyvasLT> oops
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:35] <WhyvasLT> caps
[05:35] <_jason2> whatwhat, if you decide to install some software that listens on some port, then you may want to setup your firewall.  You already have one.  It is called 'iptables'.  Firestarter just gives you a gui for it (as well as set up some rules)
[05:35] <zuverink> ccan someone point me to a ubunto ftp link to dl a live cd?
[05:35] <WhyvasLT> www.google.com
[05:35] <ReubADoob> lol
[05:35] <Pavix> WhyvasLT: launchcast
[05:36] <WhyvasLT> what's thaT?
[05:36] <WhyvasLT> sounds interesting
[05:36] <nate__> hehe whyvas
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> google is our friend.
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:36] <nate__> google is the best thing ever
[05:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> zuverink: http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/5.10/
[05:36] <whatwhat> _jason2 ok i will try to use the Firestarter thanks you very  much :p
[05:36] <nate__> and if you don't learn how to use it, you will be quickly raped in the computer world
[05:36] <Korupt> anybody really good with sed?
[05:36] <nate__> brb
[05:36] <ReubADoob> i just got 5 cds from ubuntu
[05:36] <ReubADoob> 10 really
[05:36] <saif> hello
[05:37] <Miyomei> Is there a way to clear the CMOS/BIOS settings through Linux?
[05:37] <ReubADoob> 5 live 5 installs
[05:37] <zuverink> PuMpErNiCkLe: Thanks
[05:37] <WhyvasLT> can someone point me to a good search engine that sounds like oogle and rhymes with google?
[05:37] <saif> i am trying to use bittorent with ubuntu, but the indicator stays to yellow, and azureus tells me to check for a firewall
[05:37] <ReubADoob> beasted
[05:37] <Pavix> WhyvasLT: it's a web based radio player that plays music based on your initial artis selections as well as ratings of songs/artists/albums played
[05:37] <Miyomei> Saif: Are you behind a router?
[05:38] <ReubADoob> just order the FREE cd's from ubuntu all you need is an email adress
[05:38] <saif> Miyomei, yes
[05:38] <saif> Miyomei, well, not a router, a switch
[05:38] <Miyomei> Have you set up port forwarding on it?
[05:38] <Miyomei> Oh. Hm...
[05:38] <ReubADoob> probably not then
[05:38] <saif> hell
[05:39] <saif> Miyomei, maybe it is a router!! :) it does allow port forwoding and stuff, but i didn't configure anything!
[05:39] <_jason2> WhyvasLT, how about google
[05:39] <Miyomei> Aha, I see.
[05:39] <freak_> whcih runlevel is text bootup ony?
[05:39] <freak_> only*
[05:39] <Miyomei> Do you know the brand and model?
[05:39] <freak_> is it runlevel 3?
[05:39] <saif> yes
[05:39] <rnods> does anyone know why my wireless card will cause ubuntu to freeze sometimes? (it started happening frequently) and it will take a few restarts for it to get working again
[05:39] <saif> it's a netgeear wgr314
[05:39] <Miyomei> Alright.
[05:39] <Miyomei> http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm
[05:40] <saif> sorry wgr614
[05:40] <Miyomei> Go there, and find your router, then the Azureus guide.
[05:40] <saif> ok thanx! :)
[05:40] <Miyomei> Also, set the Azureus port (in it's options) to 48175.
[05:40] <freak_> 6881
[05:40] <saif> !!!!
[05:40] <ubotu> saif: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[05:40] <Miyomei> Never use a port in the 6881-6889 range.
[05:40] <nate__> back
[05:41] <nate__> well...it worked...and boy do i feel stupid
[05:41] <nate__> :P
[05:41] <Miyomei> Some ISPs block them, some trackers re-route them, etc.
[05:41] <freak_> anyone know what runlevel doesnt boot graphically? other than RL 1
[05:41] <saif> Miyomei, interresting! thanx
[05:41] <Miyomei> No problem. Good luck!
[05:41] <fluffyashes> can someone help me
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> freak_,  you could just disable the gdm service
[05:42] <Miyomei> fluffyashes, what's up?
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> freak_, I think you would have to configure that yourself if you want one to be that way.
[05:42] <rnods> does anyone know why my wireless card will cause ubuntu to freeze sometimes? (it started happening frequently) and it will take a few restarts for it to get working again
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> freak_, 2-5 are identical initially, and can be configured for options like that in my understanding.
[05:42] <nate__> gah, confused >.<
[05:42] <fluffyashes> hey rnods....how do you know that it's your wireless card making it freeze?
[05:43] <freak_> Dr_Willis, i need console logon and the traditional linux bootup from back in the day (like how RedHat 8/9 booted TEXT-only)
[05:43] <rnods> fluffyashes: when i pull it out ubuntu is responsive again
[05:43] <freak_> tonyyarusso, can you tell me how to quickley change lets say, runlevel 4 to not do graphical startup and go to console login?
[05:43] <rnods> and the lights stay lit
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> freak_,  trivial. :P remove the gdm service. so it dont start up.
[05:44] <rnods> which isnt supposed to happen
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> freak_, Just look in for instance the runlevel 4 directory, and remove the mention of gdm.
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> or use 'telinit 4' or whatever
[05:44] <Miyomei> Hrm, now I'm having a problem.
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> Dr_Willis, What's telinit, as different from just init?
[05:44] <fluffyashes> rnods how does it freeze?  Perhaps your mouse can still move but you can't access windows, like it's a problem with X?
[05:44] <Miyomei> Can I somehow clear my CMOS settings through Linux?
[05:44] <freak_> tonyyarusso, /etc/init.d ?
[05:44] <rnods> uh
[05:44] <sudharsh> Miyomei...no
[05:44] <rnods> nothing happens
[05:45] <rnods> everything is just frozen
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> tonyyarusso,  telnint tells the system to jump to the other init level I guess. :P check the man pages.
[05:45] <nate__> how do you start applications and stuff in fluxbox?  I started it up and all that is on the right click menue is "xterm" "restart" and "exit"
[05:45] <nate__> i'm just launching stuff through the terminal now
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> nate__,  :P  there ya go.. wht more do ya nead.
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> freak_, /etc/rc4.d/
[05:45] <fluffyashes> rnods but does your mouse still move?
[05:45] <Miyomei> sudharsh: Great. So if I don't know the BIOS password, I can't do anything about it?
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> freak_, You don't want to remove it from all of them.
[05:46] <fluffyashes> rnods, i'm not actually helping you, i came in here with a freezing problem too and i thought maybe you might've had my solution
[05:46] <rnods> fluffyashes: no, everything is frozen. i cant do anything except eject the wireless card or restart
[05:46] <sudharsh> Miyomei.....my friend did something didi something silly and it worked
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> nate__,  mine has all the menu items in it..   i think theres some package ya install that makes them show up.. but then fluxbox starts up slower.
[05:46] <rnods> fluffyashes: i have a netgear wg511v2 (china version) what about you?
[05:46] <sudharsh> Miyomei.....jus play around with the jumpers in the cmos
[05:46] <nate__> hrm, i installed all fluxbox packages i'm pretty sure
[05:46] <nate__> oh wait, i have fluxconf, duh
[05:46] <freak_> tonyyarusso, rm -rf S13gdm ?
[05:46] <nate__> >.<
[05:46] <nate__> that should work
[05:46] <sudharsh> *mohterboad
[05:46] <tr011> hi every body... some times happens that my audio control applet disapear from my panels, dome body have heard about some thing like this?
[05:46] <Miyomei> Ah, didn't think about a CMOS clear jumper. Thanks.
[05:47] <tr011> i'm under ubuntu brezee
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> freak_, What are the -rf switches?  But yes, that would be the idea.
[05:47] <freak_> tonyyarusso, recusrsive and force i do believe
[05:47] <sudharsh> tonyyarusso -r -> recursive -f > force
[05:47] <sudharsh> combine these two u get -rf
[05:48] <sudharsh> tr011: did ur sound get detecte dproperly
[05:48] <Toma-> generally, you dont need -f
[05:48] <fluffyashes> i'm using a centrino
[05:48] <Blippe> amarok drops the collection database from time to time.
[05:48] <Blippe> I am not amused!
[05:48] <Blippe> What could be wrong?
[05:48] <UNH2LY> hey everyone
[05:49] <UNH2LY> need some help
[05:49] <tr011> sudharsh, yes, my sound works fine, the problem is the audio applet... it just desapear...
[05:49] <Blippe> With what unholy?
[05:49] <Toma-> Blippe: probably mysql crashing Blippe
[05:49] <UNH2LY> okay
[05:49] <UNH2LY> when i exit x
[05:49] <sudharsh> when it reappears the next time...remove it
[05:49] <UNH2LY> or maybe even before it starts
[05:49] <sudharsh> and add it again
[05:49] <UNH2LY> something about my cli is weird
[05:49] <UNH2LY> the display
[05:49] <Blippe> Toma- Sqlite... What should i do about it?
[05:50] <UNH2LY> if i get to the last line, its likea  few inches off my screen
[05:50] <Toma-> Blippe: no idea :| check the debug output for it?
[05:50] <Toma-> !enter
[05:50] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[05:50] <Blippe> where do i find that?
[05:50] <Toma-> Blippe: not sure :/ sorry
[05:50] <Blippe> Toma- no need to be :D
[05:50] <Toma-> i know the database is run with sql, that should give you some sort of direction
[05:51] <zdux0012> I'm trying to install MythTv and having trouble, could someone help me with this? I am a linux newbie
[05:51] <rnods> Anyone know why my NETGEAR WG511v2 (Made in China version) wireless card causes Ubuntu to freeze and forces me to remove it to make Ubuntu responsive again?
[05:52] <Toma-> zdux0012: i gave up on mythtv coz its too hard :/
[05:52] <UNH2LY> Blippe, any idea?
[05:52] <UNH2LY> or anyone else
[05:52] <zdux0012> Toma: I found a instruction set that was pretty good
[05:52] <Toma-> zdux0012: link?
[05:52] <zdux0012> Toma: there are just a few things left that I think a normal linux user would be able to fix
[05:52] <Evodawg> anyone know how to keep Kaffeine from auto starting  in KDE
[05:53] <Blippe> UNH2LY you should probably check into /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[05:53] <UNH2LY> thanks
[05:53] <sudharsh> Evodawg..there must be some setting within the kaffeine itself
[05:53] <zdux0012> Toma: link is http://www.quietglow.com/docs/ubuntumythtv.html
[05:53] <theeil> what do i need to play mp3s in rhythmbox?
[05:53] <UNH2LY> is it something about the framebuffer on exit?
[05:53] <Evodawg> sudharsh:  I looked can't find one yet
[05:53] <sudharsh> else search for startup in kcontrolcentre
[05:54] <Evodawg> Kde is so bloated
[05:54] <zdux0012> Toma: it is exactly my set up ubuntu + hauppauge win tv pvr 150
[05:54] <sudharsh> i dont use kde
[05:54] <Blippe> UNH2LY there is a commando like "sudo dpkg-reconfigure [some or another] " there copy and paste it to a terminal
[05:54] <Toma-> Evodawg: edit /etc/ivman/IvmConfigActions.xml
[05:54] <sudharsh> theeil if u wnat to play mp3...d/l xmms
[05:54] <Toma-> zdux0012: it need apache?!
[05:54] <sudharsh> and crystality plugin (sorta like dfx for winamp)
[05:54] <Toma-> oh.. mythweb.
[05:54] <zdux0012> I think my problem is a simple thing, the driver is not installed
[05:55] <theeil> sudharsh: no... gstreamer/libmad stuff
[05:55] <zdux0012> I believe that it can use it, but does not require it
[05:55] <Evodawg> Toma-:  I dont even have that file
[05:55] <zdux0012> mysql also
[05:55] <sudharsh> i duno buddy...try installing libmpeg3
[05:55] <Toma-> Evodawg: have you got /etc/ivman ?
[05:56] <Toma-> zdux0012: did you run depmod and modprobe ivtv?
[05:56] <Evodawg> Toma-:  nope I use Man 2006
[05:56] <Toma-> what the hell is Man 2006?
[05:56] <Evodawg> everyones asleep in Mandriva
[05:56] <Evodawg> tonight
[05:56] <zdux0012> Toma: yes both with no errors resulting
[05:56] <Evodawg> Mandriva 2006
[05:56] <Toma-> Evodawg: well why would I know anything about mandriva?
[05:56] <benplaut> is there any way to make sudo -s use /root/.bashrc instead of my (user) bashrc?
[05:57] <Blippe> !mp3
[05:57] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:57] <Evodawg> you know KDE
[05:57] <zuverink> Evodawg: Not everyone is asleep, but Hawkwind is being a jerk
[05:57] <Evodawg> its basically all the same
[05:57] <Evodawg> ah  Hawkwind
[05:57] <Toma-> Evodawg: not in ubuntu.
[05:57] <Evodawg> know him well
[05:57] <woodgrain> ubotu, actually mp3's are free  hehehe  ;|
[05:57] <ubotu> okay, woodgrain
[05:58] <Toma-> zdux0012: what does v4l-conf bring up?
[05:58] <Evodawg> dont have Ubuntu   would not know
[05:58] <Blippe> theeil check the info from ubotu
[05:58] <Blippe> !mp3
[05:58] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:58] <zuverink> Evodawg: you like man 2006?
[05:58] <Evodawg> zuverink: you guys give good advice on video stuff
[05:59] <theeil> Blippe: that is what i was looking for, thanks
[05:59] <Evodawg> zuverink:  yes
[05:59] <rnods> Anyone know why my NETGEAR WG511v2 (Made in China version) wireless card causes Ubuntu to freeze and forces me to remove it to make Ubuntu responsive again?
[05:59] <Blippe> theeil sorry for being slow :D
[05:59] <Toma-> rnods: is it the correct driver you're loading with it?
[05:59] <zuverink> Evodawg: I use Man 2006 too, I am however attempting to try Ubuntu and possibly switch, but am having install issues that are not getting resolved
[05:59] <Evodawg> guess I'll cruise over to Mandriva and visit Hawkwind
[06:00] <rnods> Toma-: Should I use the updated drivers from the website or just use the CD one?
[06:00] <zdux0012> Toma: v4l-conf I will paste the results to the paste window
[06:00] <Evodawg> zuverink:  not a good sign right from the start
[06:00] <Toma-> rnods: id say the cd ones
[06:00] <Toma-> zdux0012: just opaste it to me in PM
[06:00] <rnods> Toma-: Yeah, I used the CD ones. That worked for a while but then it started to occur.
[06:01] <zuverink> Evodawg: I dont think anyone is in the mood to discuss Xorg problems here
[06:01] <Toma-> zuverink: Evodawg: im going out in 2 minutes so i cant help :*(
[06:01] <Evodawg> zuverink:  hahahah  they never are
[06:01] <Toma-> rnods: so it just randomly started messing up?
[06:01] <Evodawg> Toma-:  no problem
[06:02] <Evodawg> I just want kaffeine to stop auto starting
[06:02] <zuverink> Evodawg: Mandrake is the only discro I can ever install with a working X out of the box
[06:02] <sudharsh> guyz yesterday i installed a vanilla kernel but usplash is all messed up
[06:02] <htedrom> hey all...quick q; does the ubuntu 5.10 live cd work on kernel 2.4 or 2.6?
[06:02] <zdux0012> Toma: I am sorry I do not know how to pm,, I am really new at this
[06:02] <Toma-> Evodawg: ivman is possibly what mandrake uses to handle auto loading, but im not sure. each distro is unique sometimjes
[06:02] <sudharsh> Evodawg there must be something under kcontrol..mate
[06:02] <bur[n] er> htedrom: 2.6
[06:02] <cafuego> zuverink: Got some weird hardware?
[06:02] <Evodawg> zuverink:  I like it    its just that KDE is starting to get to bloated    cant find anything anymore
[06:03] <htedrom> bur[n] er: that's what i thought..thakns
[06:03] <rnods> Toma-: Yes.
[06:03] <Toma-> zdux0012: i gtg, good luck :( youre driver is loading if something is coming up in v4l-conf
[06:03] <angel12> how can i mount an ntfs hard drive? i just need to back up some files
[06:03] <Evodawg> sudharsh:  I'll look
[06:03] <htedrom> has anyone had a problem getting their network card to work with 2.6?
[06:03] <htedrom> specifically, the via-rhine chipset?
[06:03] <zuverink> cafuego: no, just good old HP Pavilion stuff, but I think it is my nVidia mx400
[06:03] <sudharsh> angel12 check the fstab
[06:03] <cafuego> htedrom: I imagine 99.9% users idn't, no.
[06:03] <Toma-> rnods: try re-installing the drivers. something might have corupted them? i gtg, good luck! <:)
[06:03] <rnods> :\
[06:04] <htedrom> well i certainly bloody am
[06:04] <sudharsh> zuverink..installed nvidia-glx?
[06:04] <angel12> sudharsh, im using the live cd right now, i re-wrote the fstab to include it
[06:04] <cafuego> zuverink: Ah yes, that would need the nvidia-glx-legacy driver, as opposed to the newer one.
[06:04] <zuverink> Evodawg: Thats my deal too, but I am a gnome use and mandrake gnome is incomplete
[06:04] <mortal5> hi everyone
[06:04] <sudharsh> oh oh...ok....did u do it correctly
[06:04] <zdux0012> Toma: this line of text seems to be important:  can't open /dev/video0: No such file or directory
[06:04] <sudharsh> linux has trouble with  ntfs
[06:04] <cafuego> zuverink: Though it ought to work just fine (2D) with the 'nv' driver.
[06:04] <htedrom> i'm just gonna lay out my problem, someone chirp up if they have an idea....
[06:05] <zuverink> cafuego: cant get past the reboot to confifure X, it reboots and screen goes black
[06:05] <htedrom> i'm using a pretty vanilla NIC, a dlink dfe 530tx, which has the via-rhine chipset
[06:05] <Evodawg> I open Kcontrol and its like woooooooooooooooooooo
[06:05] <sudharsh> htedrom......
[06:05] <cafuego> htedrom: driver is loading but interface isn't coming up?
[06:05] <htedrom> the chipset loads at boot
[06:05] <mortal5> I'm having some issues with ubuntu, I want to install xine, but to do so, It says I must first uninstall a number of things including ubuntu desktop
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> Can someone tell me how to make a metapackage?
[06:05] <htedrom> sorry, i meant the MODULE for the chipset loads at boot
[06:05] <mortal5> I don't think i want to do this
[06:05] <htedrom> and it seems to load fine...
[06:05] <sudharsh> Evodawg...did u find the stuff
[06:06] <Evodawg> sudharsh:  no not yet
[06:06] <mortal5> i mean, i have no problem uninstalling gstreamer, but I don't want to remove ubuntu desktoop because I think it might be important to the overall system
[06:06] <htedrom> but it doesn't work. dhclient freaks out, tells me the kernel disables IRQ6 (which is where eth0 is)
[06:06] <mustard5> mortal5, hmm thats unusual..I wouldnt think it would uninstall the ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[06:06] <Evodawg> Its like looking thru a dictionary
[06:06] <sudharsh> htedrom..does ur chipest vedor offer linux dreivers
[06:06] <sudharsh> ...u r new to kde?
[06:06] <htedrom> sudharsh: no, but there are some available
[06:06] <cafuego> htedrom: Ah... is there anything else also on irq6?
[06:06] <htedrom> cafuego: no, i don't think so
[06:06] <mustard5> mortal5, well it won't affect anything now, but you would definitely need to install it again before doing an upgrade to Dapper for example
[06:07] <zuverink> cafuego: it gets to the point where it reboots and then it totally dies, I go to a different console, and find out X crashed, then attempt to edit xorg.conf but there are no editors avail....
[06:07] <sudharsh> i m not good at these stuff...but y not try installing em
[06:07] <Evodawg> sudharsh:  what vendors doo?
[06:07] <mustard5> mortal5, ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage
[06:07] <mortal5> mustard5, so I could uninstall it then reinstall it?
[06:07] <htedrom> cafuego: i've got most of my startup logs, and the only thing i saw on irq6 was eth0...although how could i check?
[06:07] <sudharsh> zuverink...use the live cd ..
[06:07] <mortal5> mustard5, would it also install gstreamer back with it?
[06:07] <mustard5> mortal5, I don't understand why it wants to unistall it in the first place
[06:07] <sudharsh> Evodawg..oh i meant the manufacturers...:P
[06:07] <mortal5> me neither
[06:07] <zuverink> sudharsh: can you install from that, I am downloading it now?
[06:07] <htedrom> sudharsh: scyld offers a driver, but i didn't use it...the kernel has the same driver
[06:08] <sudharsh> see if the versions match
[06:08] <zuverink> Evodawg: what were you looking for?
[06:08] <mustard5> mortal5, uninstalling the metapackage won't change your desktop ..but the metapackage is used as a reference when doing a full upgrade to a new version of ubuntu
[06:08] <Evodawg> sudharsh:  wish more vendors/manufactures would
[06:08] <htedrom> sudharsh: was that to me?
[06:08] <sudharsh> best if u modprobe the driver...workde for my no-brand-on the roadside webcam
[06:08] <woodgrain> Is there a raw-data file viewer in ubuntu?
[06:09] <woodgrain> for looking inside of a .png?
[06:09] <sudharsh> htedrom..yes
[06:09] <mustard5> mortal5, I'm not exactly sure how you should proceed
[06:09] <mortal5> mustard5, so I guess my question is, could I uninstall ubuntu desktop, and then reinstall it without reinstalling gstreamer?
[06:09] <mortal5> lol
[06:09] <Evodawg> zuverink:  oh you forgot     looking to keep kaffeine from auto starting
[06:09] <mustard5> mortal5, I'm not knowledgeable enough to know :)
[06:09] <zuverink> sudharsh: Can you install from the live cd?
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> mustard5, Do you know how to create a metapackage like that?
[06:10] <celes> so.. generally.. how many times do i have to re-install KDE for it to work?
[06:10] <mustard5> tonyyarusso, I have no idea :)
[06:10] <sudharsh> r u done installing breezy first
[06:10] <_jason2> celes, generally, 0
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> mustard5, Fair enough.
[06:10] <celes> well.. it's the kobuntu iso
[06:10] <sudharsh> what i am suggesting is to use the live cd as a rescue disc
[06:10] <mustard5> mortal5, I take it you don't want gstreamer?
[06:10] <bk> does anyone program in C or C++?  if so, can they tell me how to convert a float or double variable to an int?
[06:10] <celes> errors are popping up like crazy on every install
[06:10] <zuverink> Evodawg: go to prefered application and tell it to not use kaffiene, you mean when you but in a dvd right?
[06:11] <mortal5> mustard5, no, it just doesn't work that well with some codecs
[06:11] <sudharsh> bk try anjuta
[06:11] <Evodawg> zuverink:  yea
[06:11] <htedrom> sudharsh: no i don't think they do...
[06:11] <bk> what is anjuta?
[06:11] <_jason2> bk, google "type casting"
[06:11] <mustard5> mortal5, ah ok..so what is the goal you are trying to achieve in the end?
[06:11] <sudharsh> well if want an IDE....
[06:11] <sally_> bk: just assign it
[06:11] <zuverink> Evodawg: I believe that in KDE go to configure my desktop and look for dvd and then tell it not to start
[06:12] <mortal5> mustard5, well, honestly, I would like my videos to be handled system wide by mplayer
[06:12] <mortal5> or xine
[06:12] <sally_> does anyone have suspending working on their laptop with ubuntu?
[06:12] <sudharsh> htedrom: pity.....checked the version as well?
[06:12] <Blippe> Evodawg, you want to stop Kaffeine to autostart or stop the playback to start directly when kaffeine starts?
[06:12] <bk> sall, i do.  why, your's doesn't work?
[06:12] <htedrom> sudharsh: the scyld one doesn't say anything about via rhine III
[06:12] <Mabus06> how come my alt+tab stopped working? :S
[06:12] <htedrom> sudharsh: whereas the kernel recognizes the chip as via rhine III
[06:12] <mustard5> mortal5, you could install totem-xine?
[06:13] <Evodawg> Blippe:  no I want to keep kaffeine from auto start when I put a DVD in
[06:13] <mortal5> I mean i wouldn't *really* need to uninstall gstreamer if it never got in the way
[06:13] <zuverink> Evodawg:  I wish I could remember that exact fix, it did it for me too, but I have no KDE on my mandrake 2006, didnt install it, but its in that Configure my desktop are
[06:13] <sudharsh> htedrom: so does lspci,work
[06:13] <mortal5> mustard5, lol, that brings me back to the original problem :p
[06:13] <htedrom> sudharsh: the scyld one only says it supports rhine and rhine II
[06:13] <mustard5> mortal5, k :)
[06:13] <sudharsh> is ur module loaded correctly?
[06:13] <htedrom> sudharsh: yea
[06:13] <evilmegaman> How do I setup an ubuntu server install to let me SSH into it remotely with putty or something likethat?
[06:13] <htedrom> it's there
[06:13] <sudharsh> gimme the url
[06:13] <Evodawg> I perfer  Mplayer
[06:14] <htedrom> i think it's something weird
[06:14] <iantec> hi, how can i restore my kde panel to its default i cant see the background apps icon like gaim and kopete anymore
[06:14] <htedrom> some IRQ conflict? or maybe some chipset conflict?
[06:14] <cappicard> good evening all
[06:14] <sudharsh> oh k...
[06:14] <htedrom> i really don't know
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> evilmegaman, Shouldn't take anything extra on the server's part, I believe all of the Ubuntu installs are ssh-capable.
[06:14] <htedrom> but the module seems like it's loading
[06:14] <zuverink> Evodawg: In that case look at the order that programs are ordered and move MPlayer to the top, its in that section I told you
[06:15] <sudharsh> htedrom...i beleive ur box hangs when u use the device
[06:15] <evilmegaman> oh, So I don't even need to enable it tonyyarusso?
[06:15] <mustard5> mortal5, I've seen people working on getting rid of totem and making mplayer default, but it didnt look straightforward
[06:15] <sudharsh> htedrom...did u check the logs
[06:15] <htedrom> sudharsh: but it's not hardware...i'm using the same machine now
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> evilmegaman, I don't believe so, but I could be mistaken.
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> evilmegaman, Try it and see.
[06:15] <htedrom> yea, i'll paste you some syslog from when i ran dhclient
[06:15] <evilmegaman> tonyyarusso okay :)
[06:15] <sudharsh> sorry mate...missed the problem really
[06:15] <bk> _jason2, thanks for the advice on googling 'typecase.'  i got it to work.
[06:15] <Evodawg> zuverink:  its not on config Desktop
[06:15] <mustard5> mortal5, I think you would need to find some guide online for it
[06:15] <sudharsh> :(
[06:15] <zuverink> Is there ever any traffic on the alt.os.linux.ubunto group?
[06:16] <htedrom> arts
[06:16] <htedrom> Jan 10 04:07:37 exmachina kernel: irq 6: nobody cared!
[06:16] <htedrom> Jan 10 04:07:37 exmachina kernel: Disabling IRQ #6
[06:16] <htedrom> Jan 10 04:07:37 exmachina kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII #1 link partner capability of 45e1.
[06:16] <htedrom> Jan 10 04:07:47 exmachina kernel: eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[06:16] <mortal5> mustard5, I've went through all my video file types, and selected mplayer as the default player app
[06:16] <sudharsh> htedrom..try pastin the output in #flood
[06:16] <htedrom> ok
[06:17] <zuverink> Evodawg: Let me boot up my daughters machine, KDE is on that box
[06:17] <mortal5>  so that sort of side steps the problem
[06:17] <Locke> is there a way to make a netboot floppy disk?
[06:17] <mustard5> mortal5, k..well its all to confusing for me..I just used what ubuntu sets up :)
[06:17] <Evodawg> zuverink:  ok    but dont go to     to much trouble
[06:17] <glguy> Could someone recommend an application for playing radio streams from Di.Fm? (mp3, aac, and wma streams available)
[06:17] <cyphase> any chance firefox in dapper will be integrated with the keyring manager?
[06:17] <cyphase> but it wold be cool
[06:18] <cyphase> would*
[06:18] <zuverink> Evodawg: How can I not go to too much trouble, if I dont bad karma will build and my problems wont get solved;)
[06:18] <Blippe> Evodawg it is in system services
[06:18] <htedrom> lol shit i didn't know you could get booted for pasting too much in #flood
[06:18] <Locke> is there a way to make a netboot floppy disk?
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> glguy, Whatever suits your fancy; the type of stream should be possible in pretty much anything.
[06:18] <trappist> anybody happen to remember about 8 hours ago, a guy complaining about an empty, useless brown window when gnome started?
[06:18] <glguy> tonyyarusso, what about in the default install?
[06:19] <cyphase> trappist, i don't remember, but it's happened to me, in case that's relevant :P
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> glguy, All of those three are restricted formats, and not possible by default.
[06:19] <Evodawg> Blippe:  is that in Kcontol center
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> !tell glguy about restrictedformats
[06:19] <trappist> cyphase: I was going to bring up that it's one of two things - your loopback network device is down or your firewall is filtering traffic on it
[06:20] <sudharsh> htedrom try Application > System Tools > System Log
[06:20] <sudharsh> and see for anomalies
[06:20] <Evodawg> zuverink:  gottcha
[06:20] <cyphase> trappist, it happened a few days after i installed breezy
[06:20] <hydroksyde_> how do I change the time server in ubuntu???
[06:20] <htedrom> sudharsh: there isn't really anything there..
[06:20] <cyphase> so i just reinstalled it, and it's never happened since
[06:20] <htedrom> sudharsh: it loads the module
[06:20] <trappist> cyphase: probably a related bug: if for some reason my eth0 fails to come up, my lo doesn't come up either
[06:21] <tweek888> ubotu tell tweek888 about nvidia
[06:21] <cyphase> tweek888, tell yourself
[06:21] <cyphase> :P
[06:21] <iantec> anyone who can show me how to restore my kde desktop to its default? because my icons near the clock are missing
[06:21] <phreak97> what cd burning software is the best alternative for nero?
[06:21] <tweek888> cyphase, :[
[06:21] <trappist> tweek888: /msg ubotu nvidia
[06:21] <tweek888> it told me
[06:21] <trappist> phreak97: k3b, hands down
[06:21] <cyphase> tweek888, i meant it as a joke..
[06:21] <cyphase> since you were the one telling him to tell you
[06:21] <cyphase> lol
[06:21] <tweek888> it use to be channel only
[06:22] <sudharsh> phreak97 k3b if u r usin kde
[06:22] <phreak97> trappist, can i apt-get that?
[06:22] <trappist> yes
[06:22] <phreak97> im using gnome
[06:22] <tweek888> k3b is hawt
[06:22] <trappist> k3b > nero imho
[06:22] <sudharsh> phreak97 not if u r usin gnome
[06:22] <tweek888> phreak97, it doesn't matter it will get all packages it needs
[06:22] <phreak97> what should i use then
[06:22] <sudharsh> it locks .ICEAuthority
[06:22] <tweek888> sudharsh, that is why you chmod it
[06:23] <phreak97> tweek888, help me out then
[06:23] <phreak97> tell me what to do
[06:23] <sudharsh> yeah but how many times do u lock urlselvs out
[06:23] <tweek888> hmm, ok.
[06:23] <htedrom> is there an ubuntu install kicking around still on kernel 2.4?
[06:23] <sudharsh> sudo apt-get install k3b
[06:23] <tweek888> phreak97, install the K3b and cdrdao packages,
[06:24] <pschulz01> I'm trying to configure MySQL so I can connect from a separate machine using 'mysql-admin'. I'm getting 'connection denied'.
[06:24] <sudharsh> and k3b-mp3
[06:24] <phreak97> tweek888, then what?
[06:24] <bur[n] er> but to each their own ;)
[06:24] <zuverink> Evodawg: I was wrong and I cannot find it and the system services module is broke on that install
[06:24] <phreak97> gnomebaker didnt work for me
[06:24] <pschulz01> Everything is freshly installed..
[06:24] <bur[n] er> phreak97: then run it... "alt+f2" "k3b"
[06:24] <htedrom> is there an ubuntu install kicking around still on kernel 2.4?
[06:24] <tweek888> change the permissions on ".ICEauthority" in your home folder to 777 or read,write,execute all
[06:25] <bur[n] er> phreak97: try graveman? that's another gtk based cd burning app
[06:25] <sudharsh> phreak97 u'll need the cdrdao pkg
[06:25] <Blippe> Evodawg  i was wrong it is in kcontrol, but in peripherals - Storage Media
[06:25] <glguy> I'd like to thank the Ubuntu people for not making me jump through hoops to enjoy my restricted format media files
[06:25] <Evodawg> zuverink:   thats ok   thanks for looking :-P
[06:25] <phreak97> tweek888, dont give me an 'or', i like single options
[06:25] <Evodawg> Blippe:   hold on I'll look
[06:25] <sudharsh> glguy: yeah but u wont to be sued for that
[06:26] <tweek888> phreak97, 777 is for chmod as in "sudo chmod 777 .ICEauthority"
[06:26] <sudharsh> both give u the same results
[06:26] <tweek888> the other is for using nautilus
[06:26] <phreak97> tweek888, i got hat
[06:26] <glguy> sudharsh, I don't mind that the defaults are what they are, I'm just pleased that I don't have to fool with repositories and whatnot to get stuff installed
[06:26] <tweek888> ok
[06:26] <phreak97> that*
[06:26] <phreak97> im waiting for the thing to download still, i just wanted to know the steps agead
[06:26] <phreak97> ahead*
[06:27] <tweek888> phreak97, ok
[06:27] <pschulz01> Can anyone help with configuring MySQL (default install) to allow remote connections?
[06:27] <sally_> bk: yeah mine doesn't work
[06:27] <Blippe> in the advanced-tab you got a wonderful "enable medium playback after mount" to uncheck!
[06:28] <zuverink> Evodawg: I dont have a storage media entry under peripherals
[06:28] <cafuego> pschulz01: Edit /etc/mysql/my.cnf and change the address it listens on from 127.0.0.1
[06:28] <glguy> Where do I specify what monitor I have so that I am not forced to accept a 60Hz refresh rate?
[06:28] <Evodawg> zuverink:   I dont either
[06:28] <puff> Hm, sudo aptitude search php turns up a php5 listing, bt sudo aptitude install php5 gets me "No candidate version found for php5
[06:28] <puff> No candidate version found for php5
[06:28] <puff> Whoops.
[06:28] <cafuego> glguy: 'sudo dpkg-reonfigure xserver-xorg'
[06:28] <Blippe> Why not have a crippled licensed cd for "americans" and a non-crippled for the rest of us?
[06:28] <Evodawg> zuverink:   hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[06:29] <cafuego> puff: php5-cli, php5-cgi  or libapache2-mod-php5
[06:29] <sudharsh> puff: i suggest u install it from source
[06:29] <puff> sudharsh: Oh?
[06:29] <cafuego> sudharsh: what a stupid idea
[06:29] <puff> sudharsh: Why?
[06:29] <mite> after the installation of the GRUB boot loader and reboot, my machine boots xp and naturally doesnt begin the 2nd phase of installation...
[06:29] <zuverink> Evodawg: its under Components
[06:29] <sudharsh> cafuego for once....u wont get into these ruddy troubles
[06:29] <Blippe> Evodawg, which version of kde?
[06:30] <mustard5> mite, you checked the boot order in BIOS?
[06:30] <Blippe> do they move 'em around?
[06:30] <Evodawg> zuverink:  I remember when I started Kaffeine for the first time a setup wizard came up
[06:30] <cafuego> sudharsh: What, by installing unpackaged software?
[06:30] <sudharsh> i meant dependency issues...but still a mater of personal preference
[06:30] <pschulz01> cafuego: done that... even on 127.0.0.1, when telneting I get: Host 'localhost.localdomain' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL serverConnection closed by foreign host.
[06:30] <Evodawg> and I hit start up auto
[06:30] <puff> cafuego: What's the difference between these three packages?  apt doesn't give a description for them.
[06:30] <phreak97> tweek888, im done, is that all?
[06:30] <cafuego> pschulz01: Yeah, set a user/password :-)
[06:30] <Blippe> Evodawg: then goto ~/.kde/ and remove everything with kaffeine in it!
[06:30] <Evodawg> Blippe:  3.4
[06:30] <tweek888> phreak97, yes
[06:31] <Evodawg> Blippe:  ouch
[06:31] <tweek888> be very sure you changed the permissions of ICEauthority
[06:31] <cafuego> puff: the -cli is for running on the commandline, the -cgi runs as an external process for any web server, the apache2 one is the integrated module.
[06:31] <sudharsh> puff...install php as a module for apache
[06:31] <sudharsh> dont install a cgi
[06:31] <cafuego> sudharsh: There are no dependency issues with the packged one.
[06:31] <pschulz01> cafuego: Like the following? /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root password 'enter-your-good-new-password-here' (from documentation)
[06:31] <sudharsh> oh ok...my mistake sry
[06:31] <tweek888> phreak97, `I will be right back
[06:31] <Evodawg> Blippe:  I still want Kaffeine
[06:31] <tweek888> must restart x..
[06:32] <cafuego> pschulz01: Well, that works IN THEORY. (Didn't work for me :-(
[06:33] <Blippe> ~/.kde/share/config/
[06:33] <theconartist> yay
[06:33] <zuverink> Evodawg: removing .kaffiene will only remove andy configs you made, not stop the config action
[06:33] <cafuego> puff: Normallt the libapache2-mod-php5 one would do. If you have specific needs (security, setuid operation, non-apache webserver) the -cgi one might be better.
[06:33] <puff> cafuego: apache mod seems to be the more normal install right?  I'm basically setting up a test bed for installing a php app for somebody, so I can learn and make mistakes on my dev machine, not on the live site.
[06:33] <pschulz01> cafuego: The error indicates to me that the problem is prior to username/password question.
[06:33] <tweek888> alright phreak97 is your K3b download done yet?
[06:33] <Evodawg> zuverink: I know
[06:33] <cafuego> puff: *nod* Go with libapache2-mod-php5
[06:34] <sudharsh> cafuego.....cgi ver aint known for its perfomance isnt it
[06:34] <cafuego> pschulz01: Did you restart mysql after editing the cfg file?
[06:34] <Evodawg> zuverink:  brb
[06:34] <zuverink> Evodawg: so the unwanted playing automatically wont stop
[06:34] <puff> cafuego: Hm, there *is* no libapache2-mod-php5.
[06:34] <phreak97> tweek888, yup, installed, i chmoded .ICEauthority and im now burning a cd
[06:34] <cafuego> sudharsh: Nope.. but then, once it's cached it's not too bad.
[06:34] <phreak97> thanks heaps
[06:34] <puff> At least, aptitude doesn't list it.  Might be because I'm still on hoary.
[06:34] <cafuego> puff: Which Ubuntu version are you running?
[06:34] <pschulz01> cafuego: yup
[06:34] <cafuego> !info libapache2-mod-php5
[06:34] <Joonior> hi i've just installed my lan and i wanna get access to the internet, so i went to the networking under the system administration and i don't know how to set it up properly, i set the configurtaion to dhcp but i can't access the internet
[06:34] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1823 kB, Installed size: 3980 kB
[06:34] <sudharsh> oh..
[06:34] <Joonior> and i can't ping my modem
[06:35] <iantec> how will i kn ow what is the root password? i mean i installed this my self but i dotn remember me having a root password
[06:35] <userbn> hi
[06:35] <cafuego> !tell iantec -about rootsudo
[06:35] <phreak97> Joonior, unlucky you, i did absolutely nothing and my internet worked lol
[06:35] <cafuego> iantec: in short: root is disabled, use sudo and your OWN password. 'sudo -s' for a root shell.
[06:35] <tweek888> phreak97, awesome
[06:35] <phreak97> :)
[06:35] <phreak97> Joonior, do you have a usb modem?
[06:36] <Blippe> Joonior you got dhcp on your lan?
[06:36] <sudharsh> iantec check this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[06:36] <puff> cafuego: I've really gotta get this machine backed up and then upgrade to breezy.
[06:36] <tweek888> but if gnome fails to run next time you restart x or something giving an ICEauthority error, change it again. :P
[06:36] <tweek888> on that note, I'm so going to bed
[06:36] <Joonior> it's an alcatel speedtouch home upgraded to a pro
[06:36] <cafuego> puff: yeah, on hoary you'll need 'libapache-mod-php4'.
[06:36] <pschulz01> cafuego: Google says... (looking now)
[06:36] <zdux0012> can anyone here help me to install a mythTV capture card driver?
[06:36] <sudharsh> tweek888...thats too much for a new user
[06:36] <Evodawg> zuverink:  I can stop it but it crashes my xserver
[06:36] <Joonior> blippe yeah
[06:36] <iantec> wait....pls help me out im trying to use this line "~/foldingathome/installService" so i have to do this sudo -s ~/foldingathome/installService
[06:36] <iantec> ?
[06:37] <puff> cafuego: okay, php4 for now.
[06:37] <Psi-Jack> Hmm. Can I ask, what is the fundamental differences between Debian and Ubuntu?
[06:37] <Joonior> at the moment, i have a modem connected to a hu connected to a wireless ap, but my actual computer with ubuntu on it is connected to the hub via network cable
[06:37] <cafuego> iantec: 'sudo ~/foldingathome/installService'
[06:37] <iantec> ok
[06:37] <Evodawg> zuverink:  maybe I should start it from console and see whats up
[06:37] <zuverink> Evodawg: another great Mandriva issue, right up there with the gnome cd player issue, did you check errata?
[06:37] <userbn> ce_ca_pacar
[06:37] <iantec> cafuego....nothing happened....
[06:38] <allison_1984> Is it possible to install ubuntu on an ntfs partition ?
[06:38] <Evodawg> zuverink:   no not yer
[06:38] <Locke> what is the minimum system requirements for Ubuntu?
[06:38] <sudharsh> allison_1984 i dont think so
[06:38] <Psi-Jack> allison_1984: Egawds! Linux itself doesn't have the greatest NTFS support itself, so no.
[06:38] <Evodawg> zuverink:  what's errata?
[06:38] <zdux0012> I get /dev/video0 File not found
[06:38] <sudharsh> Locke 128mb would be fine
[06:38] <allison_1984> sudharsh: alright...thanks, just a friedn who asked me this
[06:39] <ce_ca_pacar> hi
[06:39] <theconartist> yay
[06:39] <zuverink> Evodawg: what action occures if you uninstall kaffiene and put in a dvd?  What starts automatically.  Errata is the known issue page at the mandriva website.
[06:39] <theconartist> no more ubuntu for me
[06:39] <theconartist> no more linux for me
[06:39] <allison_1984> I hear its dangerous and experimental
[06:39] <theconartist> off to freebsd!
[06:39] <mitey> thx mustard5, my harddisk boot priorities were not correct
[06:39] <allison_1984> theconartist: why ?
[06:39] <mustard5> mitey, k
[06:39] <Locke> sudharsh: well, i have a 100 MHz CPU with 64 MB or RAM, i know it's ridiculous, but i just want to use it as a file server, would it work?
[06:39] <sethk> theconartist, did you find your atari in the closet?
[06:39] <sudharsh> theconartist why??
[06:39] <mitey> bsd is still a good choice
[06:39] <Evodawg> zuverink:  oh  you see how up i'm on Man web site
[06:39] <sethk> Locke, sure
[06:39] <sethk> Locke, do the server install
[06:40] <theconartist> for this computer at least
[06:40] <Psi-Jack> BSD is a great OS.. I use BSD for servers.
[06:40] <iantec> cafuego how come nothing hapopend?
[06:40] <theconartist> i only used linux for ndiswrapper
[06:40] <sudharsh> hoary will work
[06:40] <zdux0012> Locke: sudharsh: there is DamnSmallLinux made for older computers
[06:40] <Locke> sethk: thats what i'm trying, but it won't boot from the CD-Rom drive
[06:40] <sethk> Psi-Jack, I like netbsd for servers
[06:40] <theconartist> the freebsd wrapper wouldnt work for me
[06:40] <sudharsh> installed it on a 32mb machine
[06:40] <phreak97> how do i stop the dialogue coming up to ask what i want to do with each blank cd i insert?
[06:40] <Blippe> BSD rocks!
[06:40] <Psi-Jack> sethk: Me, FreeBSD.
[06:40] <sethk> Locke, it is possible to make a bootable floppy
[06:40] <theconartist> now im getting a orinoco
[06:40] <Joonior> can anyone help me out here please
[06:40] <sethk> Psi-Jack, I think netbsd is slightly tighter, but they are similar
[06:40] <sudharsh> phreak97 r u suing gnome
[06:40] <Locke> sethk: well, i've tried smartboot and it won't read the CD-Rom drive
[06:40] <Psi-Jack> Anyway, guys.. What's the main differences between Debian and Ubuntu?
[06:40] <phreak97> sudharsh, yeah
[06:41] <Locke> sethk: the BIOS is reading it but smartboot won'
[06:41] <Locke> t
[06:41] <sudharsh> check in Preferences > Removable Media
[06:41] <zdux0012> Joonior I probablly know less than anyone here, but I can take a shot at it
[06:41] <Psi-Jack> sethk: Well, yeah. They are similar. FreeBSD just has a lot more ports. And a lot more multi-threading support.
[06:41] <Evodawg> Joonior:  ASK your question
[06:41] <sudharsh> check in System > Preferences > Removable Media
[06:41] <sethk> Locke, that's a problem with old boxes.  Sometimes I put a PCI IDE Interface into an old board to get a bootable cd to boot.  then I take it out, of course, after the install
[06:41] <phreak97> sudharsh, thanks
[06:41] <allison_1984> Psi-Jack: Debian irc guys are not very helpful while the reverse is true of Ubuntu
[06:41] <zuverink> Can you install Ubuntu from the live cd?
[06:41] <Joonior> zdux0012: ok that would be cool
[06:41] <Locke> sethk: well at the moment i'm short on those
[06:41] <La_PaRCa> Wow. FreeNX kicks all kinds of ass.
[06:42] <allison_1984> zuvernick: yes
[06:42] <sudharsh> zuverink nope
[06:42] <Psi-Jack> allison_1984: I'm not talking about IRC. I'm talking about the distribution itself. :)
[06:42] <Madpilot> allison_1984: not yet
[06:42] <zdux0012> sethk, locke: there is 2 CD for DSL linux, one is a sys type that boots only on older boxes
[06:42] <sethk> Locke, that can be a problem.  You only need it temporarily so perhaps you can borrow one?
[06:42] <phreak97> zuverink, lol
[06:42] <sudharsh> allison_1984: how can u do that ? i thought we cant
[06:42] <sethk> zdux0012, you mean the emulated floppy on a cd?
[06:42] <allison_1984> Psi-Jack: I know, they nearly threw me out because I was asking about ubuntu
[06:42] <karen> help, can't run liveCD on HP Pavillion 6000 get xserver error when use vga=788, any other locks system
[06:42] <B1zz> anyone know why i cant set wep key in CLI says invalid argument
[06:42] <zuverink> Wow, thts an answer
[06:42] <Joonior> zdux0012: at the moment the dhcp doesn't work, so i've tried setting it up myself, setting the ip to 10.0.0.20 with the netmask on 255.0.0.0 (or whatever the default is) and i put the gateway as 10.0.0.138 (the ip of my modem)
[06:42] <Psi-Jack> I'm currently downloading Ubuntu's DVD ISO. And I'm just curious, about Ubuntu vs Debian.
[06:42] <Locke> sethk: i live in a town with 4 people and a horse, i'm pretty much the only computer literate person i know
[06:43] <crimsun> B1zz: what syntax are you using to attempt to set it?
[06:43] <sudharsh> Psi-Jack yup...
[06:43] <sethk> Locke, the horse doesn't have a pc?
[06:43] <allison_1984> sudharsh: I thought, running the live cd
[06:43] <zdux0012> sethk DSL has floppy, CD, and USB support (bootable)
[06:43] <sethk> zdux0012, nice
[06:43] <sudharsh> oh ok
[06:43] <Psi-Jack> sudharsh: Yup?
[06:43] <sudharsh> Locke: where r u from
[06:43] <Locke> sethk: yes, but it's newer than mine!
[06:44] <karen> can ne1 give me vga=option to work on hp pavillion 6000?
[06:44] <Locke> sudharsh: a small town outside of Jacksonville Florida called Green Cove Springs
[06:44] <zdux0012> Jooior, maybe you need to setup/initalize  eth0 ?
[06:44] <sudharsh> oh ok
[06:44] <Evodawg> Joonior:  are you using a etho or usb?
[06:44] <karen> no1?
[06:44] <Psi-Jack> How about this. Does Ubunto 5.10 have X.org or XFree86?
[06:44] <zdux0012> sethk: www.damnsmalllinux.org I think
[06:44] <crimsun> X.Org
[06:44] <sudharsh> Xorg
[06:44] <Psi-Jack> Good start.. :)
[06:45] <sudharsh> :P
[06:45] <crimsun> Psi-Jack: you can find out most of this by browsing http://packages.ubuntu.com
[06:45] <Psi-Jack> What filesystems does Ubuntu's installation have available?
[06:45] <Evodawg> Joonior: DHCP should setup on its own
[06:45] <sudharsh> everythin reiser, ext3....hey
[06:45] <Madpilot> Psi-Jack: it uses ext3 by default
[06:45] <karen> ne1?
[06:45] <Evodawg> If your using etho
[06:45] <iantec> anyone here knows how to set my panel to default?
[06:45] <Psi-Jack> But, what else does it offer during installation?
[06:46] <sudharsh> is the wine server down
[06:46] <zuverink> Psi-Jack: The world...
[06:46] <Psi-Jack> Is XFS available?
[06:46] <crimsun> B1zz: did you use interfaces(5) to set it?
[06:46] <sethk> Psi-Jack, I would stay away from reiser.
[06:46] <sudharsh> Psi-Jack mate u gotta try it to see it...:)
[06:46] <Locke> sethk: any other idea's?
[06:46] <BxL> Psi-Jack, i use xfs
[06:46] <sethk> Locke, see if there is a flash upgrade for the mobo that will make it boot cds?
[06:46] <Psi-Jack> sethk: I stay far far far away from ReiserFS.. I've had my bad bouts with it in the past.
[06:46] <B1zz> interface 5?
[06:46] <karen> live vga=? for hp pavillion 6000
[06:47] <crimsun> B1zz: /etc/network/interfaces
[06:47] <Joonior> Evodawg: yeah... but its not :|
[06:47] <Psi-Jack> BxL: So it is included in the base kernel during install?
[06:47] <pschulz01> cafuego: Found something on the MySql pages... I need to add entries to the 'user' table  apparently.
[06:47] <BxL> yup
[06:47] <Locke> sethk: the problem isn't that it won't boot CD's, it's set to boot CDs, it just... won't
[06:47] <Psi-Jack> Awesome. :)
[06:47] <B1zz> no sir
[06:47] <userbn> hi
[06:47] <B1zz> i will look tho
[06:47] <sethk> Locke, bios upgrade might fix the problem, whatever it is
[06:47] <BxL> Psi-Jack,  but you end up with lilo insted of grub
[06:47] <zuverink> sethk: why not reiserFS, I use it on MDK and have never had a problem?
[06:47] <Psi-Jack> XFS I did definately like. M
[06:47] <sudharsh> yeah i remember u can cr8 a bootable floppy in windows and use it
[06:47] <zdux0012> CD won't boot.. I think because they changed the way older CD's boot,, they need something called sys. I am not sure but I think in the DOS days this was a file like config.sys
[06:47] <crimsun> B1zz: please see the man page, man 5 interfaces
[06:47] <Evodawg> Joonior:   using etho?
[06:47] <Locke> sethk: the mobo reads that there is a CD drive, but it won't boot no matter what CD or CD rom i try
[06:47] <sethk> Locke, might not, but I'm out of other ideas
[06:47] <girly> hi
[06:47] <Locke> sethk: i'll give it a shot, might not hurt anyways
[06:47] <B1zz> ok i will ty
[06:47] <crimsun> B1zz: it will tell you the precise syntax needed
[06:48] <Evodawg> Joonior:  do you have a net applet?
[06:48] <Psi-Jack> BxL: I can put up with LILO. Or I could just make a /boot partition and have it use Grub. No? :)
[06:48] <zdux0012> Locke,, I think it is the wrong format of boot image
[06:48] <sethk> zuverink, there are several versions that have problems, especially when used as a root file system.  They are infrequent, but to me infrequent is not good enough.
[06:48] <BxL> Psi-Jack, i gues you can, but your /boot can't be xfs
[06:48] <eric> cute^^girl is now known as 40yearoldvirgin
[06:48] <Sigu> lol
[06:48] <Evodawg> zuverink:   still there?
[06:48] <tkup> on a slow machine, performance-wise, when I'm done with a sudo command, I'm prompted for the password again. so I end up entering the password on every command, which is cumbersome. The token surely expires too rapidly. Is there a way I could increase the time that a token expires for sudo not to ask for the password again until a while?
[06:48] <Psi-Jack> BxL: /boot wouldn't need to be more than about 10-20mb, at most, and ext3 suffices for that.
[06:48] <zuverink> Evodawg: yes
[06:49] <BxL> indeed
[06:49] <Locke> zdux0012: i've tried 2 different Ubuntu CDs and a Windows 95 CD, along with a Windows XP for S&G
[06:49] <Evodawg> zuverink:  What country you from?
[06:49] <cute^^girl> hi:))
[06:49] <sudharsh> no it shouldnt it sjould last for 15 min
[06:49] <zuverink> Evodawg: USA
[06:49] <zdux0012> Locke see if there is a CD of sys type
[06:49] <zuverink> EvoDawg: You?
[06:49] <Evodawg> <------------California
[06:49] <zdux0012> Locke you are loading linux on an older computer?
[06:49] <Psi-Jack> I'm very much more interested to see what all Ubuntu has to offer. I thought it was an interesting name, when I first heard about it, ironically in a Windows channel. :)
[06:49] <Evodawg> even though that's not a country
[06:49] <zuverink> Evodawg: Im from Michigan
[06:50] <mijo> Hello.  I was wondering how I can exit Xorg in a standard ubuntu install.  I've tried changing run levels and everything with no success.
[06:50] <BxL> Psi-Jack, what have you worked with?
[06:50] <Sigu> Evodawg: california is a country:P
[06:50] <Evodawg> zuverink:  up late
[06:50] <Locke> zdux0012: older does not begin to describe it
[06:50] <Evodawg> zuv  hahahaha
[06:50] <Sigu> Evodawg: or at least strange enough to be one :P
[06:50] <zuverink> Evodawg: Some of us wish Cal. was its own country, eats up too much tax $
[06:50] <tkup> mijo, what run-level did you change to?
[06:50] <Blippe> Locke, real old computer needed a floppy to start from the cd... no matter what the bios says
[06:50] <Psi-Jack> I've been away from Linux for about 3-4 years. Been using primarily BSD for the past 5-6 years now. Using Windows on my workstations, BSD for servers.
[06:50] <mijo> sigu: 5th larget economy without the US
[06:50] <zdux0012> Locke, I have a pentium 1 133mhz with 16 mb of ram and a 2 gig hard drive
[06:50] <Sigu> Locke: You may need a boot desk :P
[06:50] <Sigu> err disk :P
[06:50] <zuverink> Evodawg: No sleep till brooklyn
[06:50] <wng> Is there a way to flush the DNS cache, similar to the WinXP command "ipconfig /flushdns"?
[06:50] <psusi> mijo, switch to runlevel 1
[06:50] <zdux0012> it is around 11 years old, made for windows 3.1
[06:50] <psusi> mijo, or run /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:50] <Sigu> wooooow
[06:50] <Psi-Jack> BxL: I've used Linux, minus the past few years, since before 1.0.0 was FINALLY released. :)
[06:51] <Locke> ok, well, where can i get a boot disk, i've been trying to find one forever and 10 years now
[06:51] <Evodawg> zuverink:  brooklyn?
[06:51] <BxL> Psi-Jack, ooook, so I gues you know way more of linux then me :P
[06:51] <Psi-Jack> Last version of Linux I used was around 2.2 or 2.4 I believe.
[06:51] <Sigu> locke, hmm...sec :P
[06:51] <mijo> psusi: thanks.
[06:51] <Locke> sigu: i've tried smartboot
[06:51] <Psi-Jack> BxL: It's possible. :)
[06:51] <psusi> wng, there is no dns cache by default, afaik
[06:51] <grayman> 2.2 was in uh 2000 i think?
[06:51] <zuverink> Evodawg: you know the Beastie Boys tune, in reference to my staying up late
[06:51] <Evodawg> Sigu: thats a fact   it is strange
[06:51] <Joonior> Evodawg: yes i'm using etho, and no i don't have a net applet
[06:51] <Psi-Jack> I'm a little rusty in Linux, but I see Linux's hardware support has far advanced in it's days. ALL of my hardware is actually supported. I was impressed. :)
[06:52] <sethk> wng, it depends on which DNS you use
[06:52] <wng> psusi, on my Windows Machine the changes to my DNS are recognized, but not on my Ubuntu laptop
[06:52] <zdux0012> Locke www.damnsmalllinux.org has boot images
[06:52] <Psi-Jack> grayman: Somewhere around there.
[06:52] <sethk> wng, try flushing the ARP cache
[06:52] <Evodawg> Joonior:  kde or gnome?
[06:52] <psusi> wng, what changes to your dns?
[06:52] <Joonior> gnome
[06:52] <grayman> Psi-Jack, yeah the hardware support is much better and also its quality is much higher
[06:52] <Sigu> Locke: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-81280.html
[06:53] <Evodawg> zuverink:  Kinda yes
[06:53] <psusi> wng, you administer a domain and changed your dns records?
[06:53] <|StanG|> Hello all
[06:53] <Madpilot> Psi-Jack: Ubuntu is good for hardware support out of the box
[06:53] <Evodawg> Joonior:  sorry I'm a kde kinda guy
[06:53] <wng> I'm gonna try the ARP cache, see what happens
[06:53] <wng> psusi, that is correct
[06:53] <Psi-Jack> I was asking about in FreeBSD stuff, to see some things. BSD still lacks in features I want, like 5.1 surround sound support, which ALSA provides for Linux. Linux however, lacks the virtual channel support BSD has.
[06:53] <Locke> Sigu: damn... your good
[06:53] <Psi-Jack> Evodawg: KDE is the stuff. :)
[06:53] <Sigu> Locke: google is your friend :P
[06:54] <La_PaRCa> I am in love with FreeNX
[06:54] <Sigu> Locke: at least when you know what you're looking for
[06:54] <|StanG|> Can anyone help me with a TV Tuner and ubuntu?
[06:54] <psusi> wng, then whatever dns server you configured the ubuntu machine to use has not been updated yet... how long did you have the records cachable for?
[06:54] <Locke> Sigu: i did, but apparently i didn't
[06:54] <Evodawg> Psi-Jack:     Its ok   getting kind of bloated though
[06:54] <zuverink> Psi-Jack: Unless of course you prefere Gnome, which I find to be the "stuff"
[06:54] <Sigu> Locke: Im just oldschool enough to remember actually using a floppy drive...somewhere in the past to load linux :P
[06:54] <Psi-Jack> Evodawg: Bloated, but well integrated.
[06:54] <Evodawg> Joonior:    did you try to google
[06:55] <Sigu> Locke: actually much more oldschool, but my memory fails me at times :P
[06:55] <BxL> Psi-Jack, well, you'll need Kubuntu
[06:55] <Psi-Jack> BxL: Heh, Kubuntu, eh?
[06:55] <grayman> Psi-Jack, ubuntu comes with gnome
[06:55] <Sigu> zuverink: gnome is "teh" stuff, although kde for some people is better for them.
[06:55] <Joonior> Evodawg: nah
[06:55] <wng> psusi, I did not configure the ubuntu machine to use any cache to my knowledge. It is on the same network as the Windows box
[06:55] <Psi-Jack> Egawds..
[06:55] <Psi-Jack> I hate gnome. :(
[06:56] <Locke> Sigu: lol... heck, it wasn't that long ago that i was using a floppy drive for everything... when i was 12 or so, heh
[06:56] <BxL> Psi-Jack, that's why you need Kubuntu
[06:56] <Sigu> Psi-Jack: kubuntu is a alternatively branded distro with kde instead of gnome as default.
[06:56] <wng> sethk, flushing my arp cache didnt work
[06:56] <Sigu> Locke: hmm ^^ :P
[06:56] <zuverink> Running the live cd absolutely positively wont touch my hd?
[06:56] <Evodawg> Joonior:  you might try it   if your using dhcp it should start without any real info
[06:56] <sudharsh> zuverink...no
[06:56] <Locke> Sigu: thats not too bad since i'm 19 now
[06:56] <Blippe> zuverink, you're right
[06:56] <Sigu> Locke: I started with linux...uhm I was I think about ...18 or 19
[06:56] <sudharsh> unless u do somehing as root
[06:56] <sethk> wng, the o/s itself doesn't do dns caching.  I have a dns cache server which I can flush.  but that won't help you because you are probably using a different dns server
[06:56] <Psi-Jack> Hmm.
[06:56] <Sigu> Locke: and I'm around 30 now
[06:56] <psusi> wng, "cache" is what dns servers do... by default windows comes with a local dns server... ubuntu does not... did you configure the IP address or is it using dhcp?  if dhcp, then it is asking whatever dns servers the dhcp server told it to
[06:56] <sethk> wng, but it is a server thing in this case, not an o/s thing
[06:56] <Evodawg> Joonior:  let me check my setup
[06:57] <Evodawg> brb
[06:57] <Psi-Jack> So I couldn't just install the basic ubuntu, and install KDE stuff on it?
[06:57] <sethk> wng, to cache the dns on the o/s side is counter to the specs and linux doesn't do it.
[06:57] <BxL> Psi-Jack, that would work too
[06:57] <Joonior> Evodawg: thanks
[06:57] <Psi-Jack> BxL: But, would it be as well interfaced, if there is any "interfacing" to it?
[06:57] <Sigu> Locke: Though, I started with unix like systems back in the middle to late 80's
[06:57] <wng> Thanks for explaining that you guys, I guess i'll just wait until it updates itself
[06:57] <Locke> Sigu: i was about 16 when i started with Linux, i thought Linux was some $5000000 operating system for super nerds, then i googled it one day in class and found out it was free, so boom, i left my internet up for about 2 months straight (dial-up, hehe) and downloaded as many distro's as my little heart could find
[06:58] <Sigu> Psi-Jack: you can do that as well, but kubuntu is ubuntu with kde out of the box, It just "works"
[06:58] <cge> With the latest gedit in dapper, is there some way to open a file with a broken encoding? It seems that gedit now refuses to open such a file at all, saying that it cannot recognize the encoding. That seems rather restrictive.
[06:58] <Psi-Jack> I see.. heh
[06:58] <Sigu> Locke: lol, been there done that :P
[06:58] <sudharsh> Locke and i am 16 now and still on dialup
[06:58] <eccf> lspci ouput shows that i've a Texas Instruments ACX 111 54Mbps wireless interface, under wpasupplicant conf, OPTIONS="..." <- what driver do i need to load? it is a PCMCIA wifi card (D-Link AirPlus).
[06:58] <sudharsh> :P
[06:58] <Sigu> Locke: btw, long distance :P
[06:58] <zuverink> Locke: I remember downloading distros like that, thank your higher power if you have one for broadband
[06:58] <Sigu> sudharsh: dialup? now? eek....
[06:59] <psusi> Locke, back then there were only a handfull of distros... slackware you could download overnight on a 28.8 iirc
[06:59] <Psi-Jack> Well, I'm ALMOST done downloading Ubuntu. :/
[06:59] <puff> Hm, what's the mysql default admin password?
[06:59] <sudharsh> Sigu no broadband untill i get above 80% in sems
[06:59] <sudharsh> dad's rule
[06:59] <Locke> i live on my own, pay my rent and utilities and go to college and i make SURE i make those 5 extra hours a week for my Cable internet :-D
[06:59] <Sigu> sudharsh: lol nice
[06:59] <|StanG|> Can anyone help me with a TV Tuner and ubuntu?
[06:59] <karen> can I install ubuntu and keep xp?
[06:59] <Locke> psusi: ummm, not when "I" was 16
[06:59] <Sigu> sudharsh: Wouldnt work around here with my kids, since dad has dsl for work. :P
[06:59] <Madpilot> karen: yes
[06:59] <sudharsh> yup
[06:59] <Locke> Red Hat 9 had just come out when i was 16
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> sudharsh, And then there's dialup without buying a license for the modem driver, and being restricted to 14.4kbps...
[07:00] <Sigu> Locke: lol
[07:00] <Sigu> Locke: I think the last red hat I touched was red hat 5.2
[07:00] <|StanG|> i ran a dial up bbs.. wwiv 2.24
[07:00] <sudharsh> cmon guyz my coonection aint that bad..its a cdma 115 kbps
[07:00] <lapducky> How can I force IDE controller settings, set with hdparm, to be persistent across reboots?
[07:00] <karen> madpilot : how , what install option?
[07:00] <Xcept0ne-> anyone can help ?
[07:00] <tkup> Locke, damn are you being paid $2 an hour?
[07:00] <Xcept0ne-> i cant access or mount my dvd-rom
[07:00] <psusi> Locke, ohh.... outch... you were still on dialup that recently? ;)
[07:00] <cappicard> hmm... anyone know what would cause my computer to shutdown instead of rebooting when I issue the shutdown -r now command?
[07:00] <Madpilot> karen: have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[07:00] <Sigu> Locke: That was when I worked @ intel and we were writing drivers for our systems management cards and needed to make sure it flew with linux on board.
[07:00] <Locke> psusi: i'm only 19 now
[07:00] <karen> thanks
[07:00] <psusi> ohh
[07:01] <Locke> Sigu: wtf, why don't they do that now?
[07:01] <Blippe> !Dualboot
[07:01] <ubotu> I heard dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[07:01] <Sigu> Locke: they ....do...sometimes ... :P
[07:01] <Blippe> nice
[07:01] <mite> "apt-cache search wine" isnt giving me any results.. it worked on the laptop though. very confusing.
[07:01] <Sigu> Locke: These cards were not cheap, we had to make the drivers work. They were aimed at the server management crowd
[07:01] <tonyyarusso> Blippe, That is cool, isn't it?
[07:02] <Sigu> Locke: But they were not cheap, try about 1500 to 2000$ retail.
[07:02] <tonyyarusso> mite: You'll need universe enabled.
[07:02] <Locke> Sigu: lol, i'm going to college for Network Administration at the moment, so i get to take Linux classes soon, yay!
[07:02] <Sigu> Fun
[07:02] <Xcept0ne-> i cant access or mount my dvd-rom, anyone can help ?
[07:02] <Blippe> I wrote a couple of bots a long time ago, but never used em for anything useful...
[07:02] <sudharsh> mite me 2 mayb the wine servers down
[07:02] <Evodawg> Joonior:  the only thing on my setup is the DNS servers and DHCP found those automatically. Isnt there some kind of setup in gnome/
[07:02] <Psi-Jack> My curious question is. Why is there Ubuntu, and Kubuntu, as seperate distributions, but... Do they share the same package base? Just different canning?
[07:02] <Sigu> < cs/ee major, but the unix systems we used were hp j class servers...very very harsh
[07:02] <Sigu> of course, this was eon's ago
[07:02] <mite> interesting.
[07:02] <sudharsh> Xcept0ne- what errors do u get?
[07:02] <Blippe> Psi-Jack to fit as much as possible on each cd?
[07:03] <Blippe> Psi-Jack, for the fun of it?
[07:03] <Psi-Jack> Blippe: Well, I use DVD's, myself... :)
[07:03] <mite> tonyyarusso, universe?
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> !tell mite about universe
[07:03] <Sigu> Blippe: and btw thats why they are seperate. To fit on a cd
[07:03] <Xcept0ne-> sudharsh, ubuntu doesnt see my hdc so i cant access it, mount it, and even eject it
[07:03] <Evodawg> Joonior:  wish I could be of more help
[07:03] <Blippe> Psi-Jack Xubuntu and Zubuntu  might show up too :D
[07:03] <sudharsh> check the fstab
[07:03] <Madpilot> Psi-Jack: Ubuntu/Kubuntu are one-CD installs
[07:03] <Joonior> Evodawg: ah well, thanks anyway
[07:03] <Locke> i still remember when live CDs became godly... ah... good times
[07:03] <BxL> Zubuntu?
[07:03] <Psi-Jack> Madpilot: I see.
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> Blippe, Z?
[07:03] <sudharsh> Xcept0ne- and see if hdc is there
[07:03] <Joonior> Evodawg: i thought the dhcp was meant to work straight away but maybe i didn't set it up properly
[07:04] <Evodawg> Joonior:  try the google thingy
[07:04] <Joonior> yeah
[07:04] <Sigu> Madpilot: unlike some alternatives which are 5...6..cd's or 2 dvds...(cough*suse*cough)
[07:04] <Evodawg> Joonior:  it did on my system
[07:04] <BxL> or debian with 14 cds
[07:04] <Mabus06> Clicking my left mouse button opens up the trash. Can somoene help me out?
[07:04] <Sigu> hahah
[07:04] <Locke> Sigu: hey, SuSE is... was... not a bad distro
[07:04] <Sigu> BxL: suse is worse.
[07:04] <Blippe> tonyyaruss Dont ask, someone wanted to make a zubuntu, and the name was already taken... I dont think they will show up...
[07:04] <|StanG|> anyone know where i can het a hotto on setting up so i can connect remotely with ssh?
[07:04] <Sigu> Suse is nice...just BLOAAAAATed
[07:04] <|StanG|> ssh2 actuly
[07:04] <Locke> this is true
[07:04] <Madpilot> !tell |StanG| about ssh
[07:05] <Locke> it's too fluffy... like KDE
[07:05] <Sigu> hmm fluffy, must show the daughter, She likes fluffy!
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> |StanG|, het a hotto?
[07:05] <sudharsh> Sigu: lol
[07:05] <Sigu> This is why she has a powerbook of course. :P
[07:05] <DShepherd> any dapper user here?
[07:05] <sudharsh> Sigu: gog damn..u r spoilng her and making her a brat
[07:06] <ko9> Sigu: Powerbook = Fluffy?
[07:06] <Sigu> sudharsh: nah, homeschooled, need a easy way to teach her
[07:06] <Sigu> ko9: mac os = fluffy :P
[07:06] <brx> 'so-called "modern desktop environments" are totally unusable'
[07:06] <Xcept0ne-> sudharsh, its not there
[07:06] <Locke> Sigu: definitely, buy your kid a 95 2 ton laptop and show them what times we're like
[07:06] <sudharsh> well atleast shes away from winblow$
[07:06] <Sigu> ko9: especially when I airbrushed her favorite band artwork on top of the powerbook.
[07:07] <Sigu> sudharsh: agreed.
[07:07] <sudharsh> Xcept0ne- include it as root
[07:07] <ko9> Sigu: Hah, agreed then.
[07:07] <Evodawg> well gotta go    have to find this problem with kaffeine auto starting
[07:07] <Sigu> Locke: lol, that would show her...and she might even throw it at me.
[07:07] <Evodawg> its a real pain in the ars
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> I got the hang of Gnome pretty quickly, and heard that KDE was supposed to be sort of XP-like, so I thought I'd get it solely for purposes of showing to friends who are a little to attached, and was very confused about where things were.
[07:07] <sudharsh> Xcept0ne- i'll give u my fstab entries..now..use it as a refernce
[07:08] <sudharsh> Xcept0ne- join #flood
[07:08] <Locke> Sigu: lol, i have a 486 in my closet that my firstborn is going to have to use for a full year before i buy them anything else, no matter how advanced anything new is... make them appreciate how horrible Windows was before they were born (this is assuming that Windows finally dies by the time i finally actually get laid)
[07:08] <Sigu> I just feel gnome is faster than kde. Hence I use gnome.
[07:08] <Psi-Jack> Okay, one more question. Is it worth getting the Ubuntu/Kubuntu DVD, or is there any difference?
[07:08] <Mabus06> can anyone help me? My left mouse button makes the trash open up...
[07:08] <Psi-Jack> DVD vs CD image, that is.
[07:08] <Xcept0ne-> sudharsh, im there
[07:08] <Sigu> Locke: *smirk* Dont torture them that bad, although.. I do have a 386 sx40 that I use as a print server... :P
[07:08] <Joonior> Evodawg: i thin i figured out why my dhcp wasn't working, the gateway and dns server was set to the ip of the wireless ap or somthing :|
[07:09] <Blippe> tonyyarusso Zubuntu: ubuntu  for zSeries mainframe computers
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> Locke, Sigu: My family has a habit of keeping old technology, so my siblings and I all learned the computer's of the ancients.
[07:09] <Blippe> and Zubuntu: ubuntu for experts
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> Blippe, Ah.
[07:09] <|StanG|> i tried to go to that ssh page it says it dosent exist yet
[07:09] <Blippe> two different zubuntu
[07:09] <Locke> Sigu, tonyyarusso: my first computer was a Tandy with a 120 GB hard drive... and i was 12
[07:09] <|StanG|> nevermind
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> Locke, Sigu: And now the apostrophy gods are smiting me for that one...
[07:09] <|StanG|> i got it :P
[07:09] <Sigu> Locke: thats...fast compared to my first puter :P
[07:10] <Sigu> Locke: vic...20....pain....
[07:10] <Psi-Jack> Anyone?
[07:10] <Evodawg> Joonior:  you didnt say you had wireless
[07:10] <tonyyarusso> Locke, Wow...  The first 3 computers I used didn't even have a hard drive.
[07:10] <ko9> Locke: 120GB?
[07:10] <sudharsh> my first computer was a calculator
[07:10] <Locke> ko9: sorry... i meant MB
[07:10] <sethk> sudharsh, my first computer was a bucket of pebbles
[07:10] <Blippe> Psi-Jack, it might be good if you don't get an internet-connection, otherwise, get the cd!
[07:10] <nano> whats up!
[07:11] <Evodawg> Joonior:  that would explain it
[07:11] <ko9> Locke: I was about to ask how serious of a RAID that must've beenn.
[07:11] <Locke> right now i'm on a Compaq Presario 5284 with a 450 MHz CPU, i bought it at a yard sale for 50 bucks
[07:11] <Sigu> ko9: lool
[07:11] <sudharsh> hah lol
[07:11] <Locke> lol
[07:11] <nano> hi everyone!
[07:11] <Sigu> Locke: I bought this laptop at a yardsale. amd64 3000+ 768 ram, 60gb hdd. 125 bucks
[07:11] <Psi-Jack> Blippe: Well, I got a PDQ internet service. Roughly about 600kB/s down, 300kB/s up. :)
[07:11] <jocstrap> Hi All!
[07:11] <Sigu> Locke: Works perfect fyi :P
[07:11] <Locke> Sigu: willing to sell it for the same?
[07:11] <mijo> psiusi: I tried both the run level and kill gdm.  Killing gdm froze my computer, run level 1 puts me in this weird safety mode that I have to supply with a root password, and I'm only given one terminal (CTRL-ALT-F's don't work).  Is there something I can put in grub?
[07:11] <Sigu> Locke: haaha..
[07:12] <Locke> Sigu: ok... fine... 150
[07:12] <Sigu> my old one maybe
[07:12] <Blippe> is Joonior up yet?
[07:12] <Sigu> Locke: toshiba p2 300, 128 ram, 10gb hdd, 12.1 inch screen :P
[07:12] <Sigu> Locke: bout to ebay that one.
[07:12] <Blippe> Sigu, you got stupid neighbours?
[07:13] <Sigu> Blippe: extremely
[07:13] <sudharsh> Sigu: wish i had em
[07:13] <Locke> Sigu, Blippe: you have neighbors??? *Stares wildly*
[07:13] <Madpilot> Sigu: **useful** stupid neighbours, though! :)
[07:13] <sudharsh> love thy neighbour
[07:13] <s_spiff{AWAY}> boss...
[07:13] <Joonior> hey what's the ubuntu equivilent to windows ip config
[07:13] <Sigu> Madpilot: Indeed!
[07:13] <s_spiff{AWAY}> sudharsh, u know any player which will play the movi with the subtitles from a file?
[07:13] <Blippe> ifconfig Joonior
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> Joonior, ifconfig, and iwconfig for wireless.
[07:13] <jocstrap> I have been trying to connect Evolution to an Exchange server for the last hour but get the error message "Could not authenticate to server.  Make sure username...".  What should the form of the OWA URL be?
[07:13] <sudharsh> i use xine
[07:14] <s_spiff{AWAY}> any1 one know any player which will play a movie with subtitles from a file?
[07:14] <sudharsh> try that
[07:14] <s_spiff{AWAY}> what xine?
[07:14] <sudharsh> yeah workz for me
[07:14] <sudharsh> played a jackass movie
[07:14] <Madpilot> s_spiff{AWAY}: I think totem-xine will do that (haven't tried)
[07:14] <s_spiff{AWAY}> as in u can load the subtitles from another file?
[07:14] <mijo> anybody know how to put an ubuntu box into "server mode" (no X)?
[07:14] <s_spiff{AWAY}> i have totem..it has no option for addin subtitles..as ion loading from a file
[07:15] <sudharsh> use xine then
[07:15] <s_spiff{AWAY}> will try that
[07:15] <sudharsh> has lots of features...or mayb even mplayer
[07:15] <ko9> mijo: I think that's only an install-time option.
[07:15] <Blippe> anyone know of a good guide to boot from nfs? netboot or whatever. In ubuntu! ???
[07:15] <ko9> mijo: but you could just switch to runlevel 3...
[07:16] <mijo> ko9: what is runlevel 3?
[07:16] <mijo> ko9: I tried runlevel 1, but it's some weird safe mode.
[07:16] <ko9> mijo: 3 is multiuser, but no X
[07:17] <mijo> ko9: thanks, that's what I want.
[07:17] <mijo> ko9: Is there a way to do that in grub?
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> What packages do I need for quicktime in firefox?
[07:18] <amonkey> what package would let me convert a wav to 8KHz, 16bit?
[07:18] <sudharsh> tonyyarusso..u cant
[07:18] <sudharsh> paste the url in some media player
[07:18] <Locke> Sigu: quick question
[07:18] <Sigu> Locke: whatsup?
[07:18] <mijo> tonyyarusso: the mplayer plugin
[07:18] <ko9> mijo: if you hit e and add a 3 to the end of whatever entry you boot to, it should be good.
[07:19] <mijo> tonyyarusso: you can get it through synaptic
[07:19] <tonyyarusso> sudharsh, mijo: We seem to have conflicting opinions here.
[07:19] <Locke> Sigu: how exactly do i get this image onto a floppy, dd doesn't seem to be working well atm
[07:19] <mijo> ko9: thanks.
[07:19] <Sigu> Locke: hmm
[07:19] <ko9> mijo: np.
[07:20] <sudharsh> tonyyarusso..thats waht i do...moreover mplayer plugin crashes ff 1.5
[07:20] <mijo> tonyyarusso: I run *.mov's on firefox through the mplayer plugin, the quality isn't great.  When I want better quality I use xine.
[07:20] <s_spiff{AWAY}> sudharsh, how to open .rar files in linux?
[07:20] <Sigu> Locke: dd if=/path/filename of=/dev/floppy no workie?
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> sudharsh, I'm using mplayer in ff1.5 for other things just fine.
[07:20] <Joonior> hey what's the difference hwaddr and inet6addr?
[07:20] <Locke> Sigu: no workie
[07:20] <nano> hi how to download program from linux?
[07:20] <sudharsh> sudo apt-get install rar
[07:20] <Locke> Sigu: tried that and it shows it all in html
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> mijo, Do you have to do something special for that?  I have the mplayer plugin.
[07:21] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ok
[07:21] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  thank
[07:21] <Sigu> oO
[07:21] <Joonior> is the HWaddr the same as a macaddress
[07:21] <mijo> tonyyarusso: I think you need the qt libraries as well.
[07:21] <Locke> Sigu: wait
[07:21] <sudharsh> tonyyarusso..what ff do u use..the mozilla build or the debian ones?
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> mijo: Happen to know package names?
[07:21] <Locke> Sigu: nvm, got it working
[07:21] <sudharsh> sory..that should hav been .deb
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> sudharsh, Mozilla.
[07:21] <Blippe> Picard.musicbrainz?
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> sudharsh, From the !firefox15 instructions.
[07:22] <sudharsh> oh ok...so mplayer works fine for u
[07:22] <Sigu> Locke: good, cause I absolutely dont remember :P
[07:22] <mijo> tonyyarusso: To tell you the truth, I have so many repositories in my synaptic that I don't know what is official or not.  gimme a sec. to see if I can find it.
[07:22] <sudharsh> may be this will help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:22] <Locke> Sigu: what are you using to talk with IRC in terminal?
[07:22] <s_spiff{AWAY}> not sure sudharsh , just downloaded...extracting the subtitles
[07:22] <Sigu> Locke: irssi
[07:22] <Joonior> does anyone here have an Alcatel speedtouch model?
[07:23] <Madpilot> Joonior: dailup modem?
[07:23] <Sigu> Locke: should be the default irc client
[07:23] <Joonior> Madpilot: nah adsl
[07:23] <sudharsh> s_spiff{AWAY} sry....u mean the movie player?
[07:23] <Locke> Sigu: no workie
[07:23] <s_spiff{AWAY}> yeah
[07:23] <Sigu> Locke: which?
[07:23] <Joonior> Madpilot: at the moment i'm trying to configure the dhcp settings.. i'm not sure what a dhcp client or what dhcp spoofing is...
[07:23] <Sigu> Locke: thedd?
[07:23] <s_spiff{AWAY}> sudharsh, which mplayer to download? I use a AMD Athalon 2.4+
[07:24] <Sigu> Locke: err, dd?
[07:24] <sudharsh> hey me 2...
[07:24] <Madpilot> Joonior: the one time I've tried ADSL w/ Ubuntu, at a relatives, it "just worked" right away
[07:24] <Locke> Sigu irssi
[07:24] <sudharsh> i didnt use mplayer bcoz o the confusion..
[07:24] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  lol ok
[07:24] <sudharsh> but 386 should be it
[07:24] <Locke> Sigu: sigh... now a new problem
[07:24] <Sigu> Locke: oO
[07:24] <mijo> tonyyarusso: I think it's part of the w32codec package.  Look up that package for a repository with it.
[07:25] <Psi-Jack> Well, I finished downloading Ubuntu's DVD. heh. Now to finish getting Kubuntu's CD.
[07:25] <Locke> Sigu: i have 2 links in my update manager that don't like to work, something from planetmirror
[07:25] <garry> There is a way to create an image that you can use ntloader to duel boot using boot.ini if you have windows xp or 2000.
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> mijo, Hmm.  I have that.  It could be that the site I'm looking at is having issues at the moment.'
[07:25] <sudharsh> Psi-Jack dude u gotta fast connection
[07:25] <Joonior> Madpilot: well my setup at the moment is the modem --> hub -- > wireless AP and my computer with ubuntu
[07:25] <Sigu> Locke: update manager? hmm....oh yeah for ubuntu sources?
[07:25] <Psi-Jack> sudharsh: Well, I started Kubuntu a few minutes ago. The CD image. I'm at 41%
[07:25] <Joonior> Madpilot: i was pretty sure dhcp was enabled, but is it a possibility that it's configured to my wireless ap ?
[07:26] <sudharsh> damn....think bout ,my conection then
[07:26] <mijo> tonyyarusso: hmm..  I dunno then.  I've noticed some qt's just don't play.
[07:26] <Locke> Sigu: actually i meant apt-get update, but it's all the same, i'm still used to Windows lingo
[07:26] <Blippe> Psi-Jack don't forget to update 'em before you burn them!
[07:26] <Joonior> Madpilot: because the gateway address and dns server is set to 10.0.0.9 which i'm pretty sure is my wireless ap ip
[07:26] <Madpilot> Joonior: the ADSL setup I used was just modem->computer; I know zip about wireless or ADSL, really...
[07:26] <Psi-Jack> Blippe: Update?
[07:26] <sudharsh> ubuntu 100 would be out by the time i finis
[07:26] <Sigu> Locke: hmm, ive never used planetmirror personally.
[07:26] <robotgeek> Joonior: i have modem -> wireless router _> computer
[07:27] <amonkey> is the a gui package for converting audio formats/bitrates?
[07:27] <Psi-Jack> sudharsh: heh, and I'm segment downloading from 6 different mirrors at the same time.
[07:27] <garry> suppose your linus mbr is on hdb1 it would be like this dd if=/dev/hdb1 count=1 bs=512 of=Ubuntu.lin to dreate the file.
[07:27] <Joonior> robotgeek: hmm do you reckon you could help me out here?
[07:27] <robotgeek> Joonior: sure, what does the hub do?
[07:27] <Locke> Sigu: i've never heard of it, so i don't know why nothing will install unless i update it
[07:27] <sudharsh> Psi-Jack u r mkin me cry
[07:27] <Joonior> the hub is just so that i can have the wireless AP and my computer connected to it
[07:28] <Joonior> and i *think* that my dhcp is configured to my wireless ap or somthing like that...
[07:28] <Joonior> if thats possible that is
[07:28] <garry> Then copy file to windoze c:\ and put this into last line of boot.ini C:=Ubuntu.lin=Ubuntu
[07:28] <s_spiff{AWAY}> sudharsh, i installed xine, but it crashes everytime i ask it to play a certain file!
[07:28] <Sigu> Locke: maybe go in and comment out those servers, /etc/apt/sources.list, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:28] <robotgeek> Joonior: yes, possible. try typing iwconfig
[07:28] <sudharsh> vow,\...
[07:28] <garry> Then copy file to windoze c:\ and put this into last line of boot.ini C:=C:\Ubuntu.lin=Ubuntu the first one was wrong. sorry
[07:28] <Blippe> Psi-Jack http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFiles
[07:29] <sudharsh> s_spiff{AWAY}: nver heard of it...what bout totem-xine
[07:29] <garry> argh, nm, that one is wrong too.
[07:29] <s_spiff{AWAY}> will check it out
[07:29] <Locke> Sigu: you wouldn't happen to know of any AIM clients for terminal would you?
[07:29] <garry> <-- Making fool of self. Giving up, keyboard and eyes hate me.
[07:29] <s_spiff{AWAY}> brb
[07:30] <Psi-Jack> Blippe: Hmm. Why not just install from the CD, and update via the net to current? :)
[07:30] <Sigu> Locke: I remember one for icq for terminal, But it sucked honestly :P
[07:30] <Blippe> Psi-Jack, gotta rsync em all :D
[07:30] <Joonior> robotgeek: shows nothing..
[07:30] <Locke> Sigu: lol, alright then
[07:30] <robotgeek> Locke: pork, centericq i think
[07:30] <Sigu> Locke: gaim just works! :P
[07:30] <robotgeek> Joonior: ifconfig ?
[07:30] <Joonior> robotgeek: the wireless ap isn't connected to my computer though? its just connected to the hub which is connected to the modem
[07:30] <Blippe> Psi-Jack That is good too!
[07:30] <Joonior> if config gives me somthing though
[07:31] <Psi-Jack> Blippe: Mind you, though, I am installing from a Windows system, presently, but removing the ppresent HDD, to use a backup HDD to test things out.
[07:31] <Sigu> robotgeek: yup both of those, couldnt stand either of them, although fun to play with.
[07:31] <Joonior> robotgeek: etho and lo
[07:31] <robotgeek> Joonior: lemme get your setup correctly, both the computer and the wireless AP is connected to the hub?
[07:31] <Joonior> robotgeek: the problem is, i can't connect to the network at all
[07:31] <Blippe> Psi-Jack I did too... Then i dropped the hd and the dvdrom on the floor, and they both died!
[07:31] <Joonior> robotgeek: yep
[07:31] <zuverink> How does Ubunto remove the trash icon off the desktop and  place it only on a panel in gnome, anyone know?
[07:31] <Joonior> robotgeek: and the hub is connected to the modem
[07:32] <robotgeek> Joonior: is this a ADSL modem or a dialup?
[07:32] <garry> last line if I've not bored evryone to death in boot.ini is C:\BootUbuntu.lin="Ubuntu Breezy Linux"
[07:32] <Joonior> robotgeek: i'm pretty sure the wireless ap ip is 10.0.0.9, which the gateway and dns server is set to under the dchp
[07:32] <Joonior> robotgeek: adsl modem
[07:32] <Joonior> robotgeek: alcatel speed touch home upgraded to a pro
[07:32] <Psi-Jack> Blippe: Well, that was bad.. I'm not physically removing them, myself. I have an 80gb drive hanging out of my computer, while the primary is still mounted inside. It's staying like that. :)
[07:32] <Blippe> zuverink among others there is a configuration editor where you can change that!
[07:32] <robotgeek> Joonior: the modem is connected and works? (try modem to computer link)
[07:33] <deFrysk> zuverink, I believe that you can do many settings with gtweakui
[07:33] <Psi-Jack> sudharsh: 80%
[07:33] <Psi-Jack> :)
[07:33] <Sigu> Psi-Jack: that sounds...dangerous..
[07:33] <deFrysk> zuverink, install it and try it :)
[07:33] <sudharsh> :(
[07:33] <Joonior> robotgeek: i'm actually connected on the internet
[07:33] <Locke> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:33] <Locke> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:33] <Locke> does anyone know what that means?
[07:33] <Blippe> Psi-Jack, sounds like my normal setup!
[07:33] <AMCDeathKnight> I am on Ubuntu Live CD. Where can I browse my windows; actual ubuntu partition and another partition I had files in so I can take files from it to backup
[07:33] <Joonior> robotgeek: i'm on my brothers computer at the moment
[07:33] <sudharsh> Psi-Jack: lets switch places for exchsnge students
[07:33] <Joonior> robotgeek: which is connceted to the wireless ap
[07:33] <Blippe> Locke, turn of synaptic
[07:33] <deFrysk> Locke, it means you try to do 2 apt-sessions at the same time
[07:33] <Joonior> robotgeek: with a wlan card
[07:34] <Locke> but i'm not...
[07:34] <Locke> oh crap
[07:34] <Locke> i am
[07:34] <Sigu> Locke: you are using another system updater somewhere
[07:34] <robotgeek> Joonior: oh okay, so the wireless on a different computer works, but the ethernet on that computer doesn't work?
[07:34] <Sigu> :P
[07:34] <Blippe> !ntfs
[07:34] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[07:34] <sally_> does anyone have suspend working on their laptop with ubuntu?
[07:34] <AMCDeathKnight> I am on Ubuntu Live CD. Where can I browse my windows; actual ubuntu partition and another partition I had files in so I can take files from it to backup
[07:34] <Blippe> AMCDeathKnight ubotu just told you!
[07:34] <Sigu> sally_: <me
[07:34] <Hentai^XP> Hello
[07:35] <AMCDeathKnight> What about the other partitions
[07:35] <Hentai^XP> Anyone know where I can find a port of ubuntu for sparc64?
[07:35] <robotgeek> Hentai^XP: try debian
[07:35] <Psi-Jack> sudharsh: Hehehe. 91%
[07:35] <Blippe> AMCDeathKnight it tells you about fat too!
[07:35] <sally_> Sigu, what kind of laptop do you have and did you have to do anything to make it work?  how do you trigger the suspend?
[07:35] <_ry4n_> ha. Hentai^XP hangs out here.. i thought he only ruined the apple room
[07:35] <AMCDeathKnight> wha about ext partitions
[07:35] <sudharsh> Psi-Jack: whats ur bandwidth
[07:35] <Hentai^XP> robotgeek: I would go with debian but I was pretty sure there was people working a sparc64 port
[07:36] <Psi-Jack> sudharsh: On average, 600kB/s Down, 300kB/s Up.
[07:36] <Sigu> sally_: emachine m680x, press the power button, auto suspend
[07:36] <sudharsh> Psi-Jack i hav fainted
[07:36] <sally_> Sigu, did it just work when you installed ubuntu?
[07:36] <Sigu> sally_: a while since I set it up with linux, if I remember right. It worked out of the box.
[07:36] <Hentai^XP> _ry4n_: I don't ruin any rooms, only ##apple
[07:37] <Blippe> W95 Ext'd ?
[07:37] <Psi-Jack> Been getting a constant 550kB/s download for Kubuntu. And it's almost done.
[07:37] <Blippe> yes!
[07:37] <Psi-Jack> Done!
[07:37] <sudharsh> Psi-Jack: thats wicked
[07:37] <Blippe> read the page, it will tell you all about it
[07:37] <Sigu> 550kb/s? die plz :P
[07:37] <Joonior> robotgeek: yeah
[07:37] <Sigu> 1.5mbit is my max :(
[07:37] <Psi-Jack> Mmm, yes. I know. :)
[07:37] <sudharsh> brb
[07:37] <robotgeek> Joonior: brb
[07:37] <Locke> Sigu: you see why i work my extra hours for great cable?
[07:37] <_ry4n_> put it in your personal adds (i get 1.5mb
[07:38] <Psi-Jack> And THAT's on Windows XP's TCPIP driver. :)
[07:38] <Sigu> Locke: its not a matter of money...
[07:38] <Sigu> Locke: I live out in the middle of nowhere, im lucky to have this speed dsl
[07:38] <Locke> Sigu: YOU live in the middle of nowhere!?!?
[07:38] <Locke> i live in a place known for it's tree's and springs, i went to high school in a town called middleburg
[07:39] <Sigu> Locke: yup, top of the mountain, running a wireless uplink to my office 9 miles away, which has a 1.5mbit dsl connection
[07:39] <tyler> how do i listen to streaming radio  with mplayer?
[07:40] <Psi-Jack> tyler: That sounds more like a job for XMMS, not mplayer.
[07:40] <garry> yeah, my friend lived in a small town of 40 people in mass and had dsl and fiber optics. His wife and him move to Paradise, CA  with a population about 35k and no dsl.
[07:40] <cdubya> !upgrade
[07:40] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:40] <cdubya> hmm.
[07:40] <tyler> psi. erm...
[07:40] <Sigu> garry: im about 20 miles above paradise, ca
[07:40] <garry> more his fault tho, for being too far from a substation.
[07:40] <tyler> mplayer cannot stream
[07:40] <tyler> ?
[07:41] <zuverink> Ubunto Live wont boot on my main machine but it boots on my old box, damn! thats a nice distro, great gnome look, too bad I cant get around the Xorg problem with my nvidia card
[07:41] <garry> Sigu neat, would that be Chico?
[07:41] <Psi-Jack> tyler: I'm not sure. Yet. Last time I used it, it didn't. But that's been a couple years. :)
[07:41] <Sigu> garry: nah, above, near sterling city
[07:41] <tyler> ok.. i will keep trying
[07:42] <cdubya> anyone running dapper without much stuff breaking on the upgrade? :)
[07:42] <locke> ah, ok, there we go
[07:42] <garry> Sigu wow, nice gorgeous country there, I have been there many times. I wonder if comcast offers cable broadband there, with the elevation, I bet they do.
[07:42] <Sigu> woot, installing guildwars now :P
[07:42] <Sigu> garry: nope
[07:42] <Sigu> garry: not even where im at
[07:43] <whatwhat> re
[07:43] <Psi-Jack> Welp. I'm done burning Kubuntu. Time to go try it out. :)
[07:43] <Sigu> woot
[07:43] <Sigu> guildwars works!
[07:43] <garry> Sigu Ouch! and yet in magalia, they were offering it to a friend. I live in central paradise accross the library by the DMV.
[07:43] <locke> Sigu: well, that CD floppy disk didn't work
[07:43] <Sigu> locke: :(
[07:43] <Sigu> garry: ahh
[07:43] <locke> Sigu: *sigh*
[07:44] <garry> Sigu I bet its cause of so many trees. it plays havoc with cable.
[07:44] <Sigu> garry: small world
[07:44] <Sigu> garry: absolutely.
[07:44] <Sigu> garry: sat works fine however!
[07:44] <lapducky> How can I force IDE controller settings, set with hdparm, to be persistent across reboots?
[07:44] <garry> Sigu it sure is. :)
[07:44] <Sigu> garry: and wireless to my office where I do have dsl works for me.
[07:44] <locke> Sigu: well, i give up on this computer, it can die for all i care, lol
[07:45] <garry> Sigu excellent.
[07:45] <Sigu> locke: what did it do, or ...errors?
[07:45] <Hentai^XP> robotgeek: why anyways? besides seems I found a netboot image
[07:45] <whatwhat> i try to install the phpbb2 from syaptic ... here says it is very well installed but i don see the phpbb2 in the http://localhost apache
[07:45] <whatwhat> someone knows why this happen
[07:45] <locke> Sigu: just said "Cannot boot from CD: Press any key to boot HDD or ESCape to restart"
[07:46] <sally_> Sigu, does your suspend work with apm or acpi?
[07:46] <robotgeek> Hentai^XP: i did not know abt the ubuntu port, plus i installed debian on it before
[07:46] <Sigu> locke: check in the bios, there might be a option to boot from floppy.
[07:46] <robotgeek> Joonior: back
[07:46] <nano> ooooo
[07:46] <Sigu> sally_: that im not sure of.
[07:46] <locke> Sigu: thats AFTER it booted from the floppy
[07:46] <Hentai^XP> ok robotgeek but heres the url http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000040.html
[07:46] <locke> Sigu: thats the message that the floppy gave to me
[07:46] <Sigu> o..
[07:46] <Sigu> oO
[07:47] <whatwhat> i impressioante the kubunto install me the apache from synaptic ...
[07:47] <zuverink> deFrysk: gtWeakui is exactly what did the trash thing, thanks!
[07:47] <Sigu> locke: how old is this computer?
[07:47] <locke> 133 MHz, 64 MB of RAM, Dell Optiblex (Gn+) 5000
[07:47] <cdubya> whatwhat, what are you trying to do exactly?
[07:47] <garry> Sigu I do programming,but its gotten rather boring. Thinking of doing photography, lot less rustration. There's the ole saying. give a person a program and you frustrate them for a day, teach em to program and you frustrate them for a lifetime.
[07:48] <blackvd> Hi,I have a rar file which is password protected. I have the password but where do I add it to ark in oder to extract it?or is there another prog I can use?
[07:48] <robotgeek> Joonior: hmm, anyways. try "sudo dhclient eth0"
[07:48] <whatwhat> cdubya welll i try to install the apache from synaptic but i never think will configure it so (makes me totaly impressionated ...) then i try to install the phpbb2 and says to me that install it but i thinking where is the phpbb lol don apears on my http://localhost lol
[07:49] <Blippe> how do i Bruteforce a zipfile in linux?
[07:49] <locke> Sigu: 133 MHz, 64 MB of RAM, Dell Optiblex (Gn+) 5000
[07:49] <cdubya> whatwhat, so are you getting a default apache page when you go that site?
[07:49] <gumpish> Where do I go to search for package names in the defualt repositories?
[07:49] <whatwhat> cdubya yes the apache is working from synapitic impressionating ...
[07:50] <cdubya> whatwhat, ls -l /var/www
[07:50] <Sigu> back
[07:50] <Sigu> garry, locke please repeat :P
[07:50] <locke> Sigu: 133 MHz, 64 MB of RAM, Dell Optiblex (Gn+) 5000
[07:50] <cdubya> gumpish, synaptic
[07:50] <Sigu> locke: hrm...should work.... dont know why it doesnt.
[07:50] <Sigu> locke: whats on the machine right now?
[07:50] <sampan> gumpish: synaptic, aptitude, apt-cache search <string>, or http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[07:50] <whatwhat> cdubya yes it work ... fine is there just try to install the phpbbs ... says to me that install it but don see where is the phpbb2 that the problem lol
[07:50] <garry> search box in synaptec package manager or adept if you use. kde for finding programs to install.
[07:51] <garry> Sigu I do programming,but its gotten rather boring. Thinking of doing photography, lot less rustration. There's the ole saying. give a person a program and you frustrate them for a day, teach em to program and you frustrate them for a lifetime.
[07:51] <musashiden> hello everyone, iam trying to compile something
[07:51] <musashiden> but getting this error:
[07:51] <locke> Sigu: well, it's a 400 MB hard drive, i'm just TRYING to install the server Ubuntu to see if i can actually get it to work, but at the moment, DOS 6.22
[07:51] <musashiden> Error: Cannot find header either inttypes.h or bitypes.h
[07:51] <Sigu> locke: oh hrm..
[07:51] <cdubya> whatwhat, that's why I'm asking you to list the contents of /var/www......unless I'm totally confused about what you're saying...;)
[07:51] <crimsun> MasterTsunami: install build-essential
[07:51] <musashiden> can anyone tell me what am i doing wrong?
[07:51] <MasterTsunami> sure thing :|
[07:51] <gumpish> Thanks
[07:51] <zuverink> Ubunto do zeroconfig?
[07:51] <crimsun> MasterTsunami: sorry, misdirected.
[07:51] <Sigu> locke: a boot disk should work though.
[07:52] <MasterTsunami> :P
[07:52] <locke> Sigu: if i can actually get it to install then i'll throw on a good 100 GB hard drive
[07:52] <crimsun> musashiden: install build-essential
[07:52] <Sigu> garry: lol :P
[07:52] <locke> Sigu: well, what about netboot or something of the like?
[07:52] <toydi> hi, i'm new to linux. hope someone would help me: how to shrink/resize my root directory. My root directory is a LVM's LogicalVolume (Ubuntu-root)
[07:52] <Sigu> locke: I dont think ive ever seen a netboot of ubuntu.
[07:52] <whatwhat> cdubya tes i allready check the apache directory and the phbb2 is not in the directory
[07:52] <whatwhat> from apache
[07:53] <locke> Sigu: it comes on the isntallation disk in the Install folder... i've just never considered using it nor known how to use it
[07:53] <Sigu> locke: hmm, Ive never looked
[07:53] <nano> jhjhjhjhjhj
[07:53] <cdubya> whatwhat, just a sedc
[07:53] <cdubya> sec, even
[07:53] <musashiden> crimsun: thank you! it fixed the problem!
[07:53] <whatwhat> cdubya shure take you time :p
[07:54] <Sigu> locke: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[07:54] <crimsun> musashiden: np
[07:54] <locke> Sigu: brb, let me go electrocute myself a few times and try the Windows 95 CD to see if it's the CD type or just the PC itself
[07:54] <Sigu> lol
[07:54] <Sigu> K :P
[07:54] <Sigu> btw
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> !freenx
[07:55] <ubotu> methinks freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[07:55] <Sigu> if youre going the netboot route, id just throw the intended hdd in there. :P
[07:55] <Sigu> You -really- Only want to do this once right? :P
[07:55] <locke> Sigu: i don't have the hard drive YET, i'm just trying this to see if it will work before i buy a good 100 GB hard drive
[07:56] <Sigu> oh!
[07:56] <locke> Sigu: all i have in this PC is a 9 and an 18, and i have Linux spaced across the both of them
[07:56] <locke> Sigu: so no chance of me just borrowing one
[07:56] <Sigu> locke: Quite!
[07:57] <musashiden> crimsun: another error, E: Couldn't find package X11
[07:57] <crimsun> musashiden: install libx11-dev at least.
[07:58] <musashiden> thanks again
[07:58] <blackvd> Hi,I have a rar file which is password protected. I have the password but where do I add it to ark in order to extract it?
[07:59] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell musashiden about xincludes
[07:59] <locke> Sigu: forgive my squirelly ignorance, but i'm pretty sure that a case isn't supposed to electrocute you, right?
[07:59] <Sigu> locke: absolutely not.
[07:59] <garry> might try running unrar or ark from command line, is my guess, check manual for command line syntex.
[07:59] <cdubya> whatwhat, hmm.....it looks like it's throwing everything in /usr/share/phpbb2/
[07:59] <locke> Sigu: yeah, then this one is f-ed up
[07:59] <Sigu> locke: squirelly like milton from office space eh?
[07:59] <locke> Sigu: along with the PC i'm on right now... and the rest of these, wtf
[08:00] <locke> Sigu: no... not quite
[08:00] <garry> Someone stole my stapler!
[08:00] <locke> garry: no !
[08:00] <whatwhat> cdubya very thank you i sorry i have only 2 days from linux i i don know find the files corretly yet ... very much thank you
[08:00] <locke> garry: and you need a small font
[08:00] <cdubya> np
[08:00] <Sigu> grrr.
[08:00] <Sigu> I hate emulation
[08:01] <Sigu> *throws a huge hammer @ plaync....* make a dammm linux client for guildwars :P
[08:01] <whatwhat> cdubya yes it is really there impressionanating this install phpbb2 :x o0 0o
[08:01] <locke> Sigu: we need to just send dos attacks against every computer gaming company until they decide to make Linux a default format for ALL games
[08:01] <garry> locke I have poor eyesight, any smaller font and I'd be unable to read it.
[08:01] <luisito> guys, what kind of problems could I suffer for the use of automatix?
[08:02] <crimsun> Bad Things.
[08:02] <locke> garry: well nobody can hear milton, so your getting the point
[08:02] <locke> 01:54 awaylog_level = msgs hilight
[08:02] <locke> 01:54 awaylog_file = ~/.irssi/away.log
[08:02] <locke> 01:54 [lookandfeel] 
[08:02] <locke> 01:54 beep_when_away = ON
[08:02] <Sigu> locke: default? nah...just client would work for me
[08:02] <deFrysk> luisito, loss of support here for one
[08:02] <cdubya> whatwhat, heh
[08:02] <crimsun> !tull luisito about automatix
[08:02] <ubotu> crimsun: No idea
[08:02] <crimsun> great.
[08:02] <sampan> luisito  when i used automatix (albeit it was a long while ago, back first couple weeks of breezy), it busted lots of stuff for me
[08:03] <locke> Sigu: your thinking too small man!
[08:03] <buulian> All, what mobile devices has ubuntu been ported/ run on?
[08:03] <cdubya> whatwhat, I usually just download the tar files for all that kinda stuff and put it where I want....
[08:03] <tonyyarusso> What's the difference between apt-get remove with and without --purge?
[08:03] <bshumate> !tell luisito about automatix
[08:03] <cdubya> hey tony
[08:03] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: conffiles.
[08:03] <locke> Sigu: until we all let the software companies we aren't going to take it anymore, the Windows keeps on boning everybody hard
[08:03] <luisito> ok
[08:03] <garry> locke MIlton? Hmmm, I don't see anything from Milton either.
[08:03] <tonyyarusso> Hey cdubya.
[08:03] <luisito> thanks guys
[08:03] <whatwhat> cdubya yes i download it to manually ... i just never think this do this job automatic
[08:04] <zuverink> Whats does "!tell" do, sorry to ask, I just started using irc?
[08:04] <cdubya> whatwhat, if you installed in with synaptic, it put it where it wanted......;)
[08:04] <buulian> is there something like visual studio c++ for linux?
[08:04] <sampan> zuverink  it makes the bot (ubotu) tell the person a factoid in a private msg
[08:04] <whatwhat> cdubya shure it will ;p
[08:04] <zuverink> sampan:thanks
[08:04] <sampan> sure :)
[08:05] <Sigu> brb, might crash again :(
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> How can I uninstall things installed with a metapackage?
[08:05] <cdubya> buulian, I've tried MinGW Studio and KDevelop
[08:05] <deFrysk> tonyyarusso, one at the tme
[08:05] <deFrysk> time
[08:06] <Madpilot> !tell zuverink about ubotu
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> deFrysk, Ick.
[08:06] <cdubya> buulian, had less luck with MinGW
[08:06] <sampan> lol madpilot -- demonstration!
[08:06] <buulian> you run kde?
[08:06] <cdubya> buulian, nope
[08:06] <buulian> gnome?
[08:06] <cdubya> yep
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> Someone please tell me there's a better way than that.
[08:06] <buulian> kdevelop will work for gnome?
[08:06] <deFrysk> tonyyarusso, what metapackage is it ?
[08:06] <buulian> how does that work?
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> deFrysk, kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop.  Thought I'd check them out, but definitely sticking with Gnome.
[08:07] <garry> Someone is telling me thatmy font is too big and I said, my eyesight is poor and I can't read it if it were any smaller. He says nobody can hear milton so I get the point. I don't understand, so is there a fix for this or must I abandon IRC so I don't annoy someone with a larger font? Is it really that bad, I can't tell.
[08:08] <cdubya> buulian, Applications > Add Applications > Programming > More Programming
[08:08] <Madpilot> garry: your posts look identical to everyone else's on my client... whoever complained can just switch clients... :P
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> garry, Yours shows up the same as everyone else for me in XChat.
[08:08] <deFrysk> tonyyarusso, sudo apt-get remove xfce4 kdelibs
[08:08] <sampan> ditto -- same size/font as everyone else
[08:08] <musashiden> oh boy, another error
[08:08] <garry> Thanks guys.
[08:08] <buulian> cdubya, i mean, doesn't kdevelop use qt toolkit and gnome use the gtk?
[08:08] <cdubya> buulian, I think that's how I did it....or I may have just done sudo apt-get install kdevelop
[08:09] <tonyyarusso> deFrysk, What about all of the extra programs they install with themselves?
[08:09] <musashiden> vobsub.c:988: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
[08:09] <musashiden> :/
[08:09] <cdubya> buulian, it's been awhile, but if I remember right, it just grabbed all the deps needed and installed nicely.....:)
[08:09] <deFrysk> tonyyarusso, rightklik the package in synaptic and choose dependencies
[08:09] <buulian> cdubya, i'm a c# developer switching over to linux
[08:09] <cdubya> ah
[08:09] <garry> Madpilot thanks kindly.
[08:09] <tonyyarusso> deFrysk, Will take a look at that.
[08:09] <deFrysk> tonyyarusso, then you see all packages going with the metapack
[08:09] <buulian> it's going to be quite the change, eh?
[08:10] <garry> tonyyarusso thanks kindly.
[08:10] <cdubya> buulian, a little. :)
[08:10] <musashiden> can anyone tell me what am i doing wrong?
[08:10] <musashiden> vobsub.c: In function 'vobsub_parse_one_line':
[08:10] <musashiden> vobsub.c:988: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
[08:10] <zuverink> supposing that my install issue is related to XORG problems with my pci nvidia geforce2 mx-400 card, if I were to remove it and install, and the was sucsessfull, how hard would it be to then reinstall the card and get it to work?
[08:10] <deFrysk> tonyyarusso, gnome wise choice :)
[08:10] <musashiden> ...
[08:11] <locke> Sigu: sigh
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> deFrysk, Uh oh.  This list includes the things common with Gnome (of course), so I don't know how I'd sort that out.  apt-get needs an undo!
[08:12] <musashiden> god damnit, what is wrong with people in this channel! isnt this suppose to be a support channel? iam practically begging here.
[08:12] <deFrysk> tonyyarusso, the ones going with gnome also wil remove the uduntu-desktop matapack so check it out ;)
[08:12] <tonyyarusso> Actually, that's a really good idea.  Something like apt-get undo 2, to undo the last two apt operations?
[08:12] <garry> my guess and I could be ttoally wront musashiden is that some of the compiler suite is for one arch and other parts for another, or there is a conflict where a couple are versions that don't like aeach other.
[08:12] <deFrysk> ubuntu*
[08:12] <bnD> anyone know why #ubuntu-lite is empty? :(
[08:12] <buulian> cdubya, know of any resources to aid in the switch?
[08:13] <deFrysk> bnD, not many on lite I guess
[08:13] <bnD> deFrysk, yeah, guess not :x
[08:13] <bnD> i thought the chan would at least be registered tho ;l
[08:14] <Grimnar> hey all, i hav a question
[08:14] <deFrysk> tonyyarusso, after removing the debs you can always sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop to restore the default gnome desktop
[08:14] <cdubya> buulian, I don't write any C#, only heard about it.....is it much like VB?
[08:14] <Grimnar> with the installation
[08:14] <Grimnar> if n e 1 has time
[08:14] <buulian> more or less...
[08:14] <cdubya> buulian, that's kinda what I was seeing.....
[08:14] <buulian> cdubya, i know that everything is totally different from windows development
[08:14] <cdubya> buulian, what are you looking to develop in then?
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> deFrysk, Is that going to break/mangle anything?  (and why hasn't someone come up with a better way to do this yet?)
[08:14] <buulian> cdubya, not sure
[08:15] <cdubya> buulian, you might consider anjuta if you're a VB kinda-person
[08:15] <soci0path> musashiden, what compiler are you using?
[08:15] <cdubya> buulian, it will look more familiar to you (the IDE)
[08:15] <musashiden> um, cc?
[08:15] <locke> w00t! it works!
[08:15] <bnD> anyone know of an easy way to see how much space your installed packages are taking up? (i have other media i dont want to include)
[08:15] <deFrysk> tonyyarusso, to keep is simple I wuold remove qt it wil remove everything kde related and remove all packages starting with xfce4
[08:15] <musashiden> soci0path: not sure, might be cc.
[08:15] <buulian> cdubya, does that also have gui drag-and-drop?
[08:15] <Gridblock> hey all
[08:16] <soci0path> what version musashiden
[08:16] <cdubya> buulian, sorry, I meant gambas
[08:16] <garry> try gcc -V if I remember it will give you the version number.
[08:16] <soci0path> check which one you have installed
[08:16] <musashiden> soci0path: how do i check that?
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> deFrysk, Which package would that be?
[08:16] <cdubya> buulian, I've only glanced at it.....hadn't had much time to mess with it, but the interface looked much like VB .Net's to me
[08:16] <Grimnar> after ive set up my partitian n all...told ubuntu which to install in...it installs to about 20% and comes up with an error message...not sure wat file it is on (if that is how it worx) and says to check a log or something? or virtual 3? im sooo lost...  :'(
[08:17] <luisito> I want a good chess game, which one is good?
[08:17] <soci0path> musashiden, gcc --version
[08:17] <buulian> cdubya, i'll probably take the time to learn to program correctly, ie C++
[08:17] <deFrysk> sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt
[08:17] <deFrysk> tonyyarusso,
[08:17] <musashiden> soci0path: cc (GCC) 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[08:17] <buulian> i'll probably go and get kdevelop and figure it out
[08:17] <deFrysk> tonyyarusso, do that first
[08:17] <cdubya> buulian, I like C++
[08:17] <Gridblock> i have a 3com OfficeConnect wireless 11g pc card. It showed up in the network configuration windows before. now ive blacklisted the prism54 becuase i think ndiswrapper wants to run it alone. is it becuase Prism54 is blacklisted that it dosent show up?
[08:18] <soci0path> refresh my memory musashiden what program are you trying to compile?
[08:18] <s_spiff{AWAY}> anyone know how to add new link in the 'Places'  menu in ubuntu?
[08:18] <buulian> cdubya, if i'm using kdevelop, should i just get kde as well?
[08:18] <cdubya> buulian, you can.
[08:18] <musashiden> soci0path: mplayer
[08:18] <Madpilot> s_spiff{AWAY}: create a bookmark in Nautilus, it should show in the menu
[08:18] <s_spiff{AWAY}> achha ok
[08:18] <s_spiff{AWAY}> thanks
[08:18] <Adross> can ubuntu write to hfs?
[08:18] <cdubya> buulian, kubuntu does just fine as far as I can tell, but I like gnome better on ubuntu. Just a personal preference.
[08:18] <tonyyarusso> deFrysk, done.
[08:19] <s_spiff{AWAY}> Madpilot, worked..thanks
[08:19] <deFrysk> tonyyarusso, col :)
[08:19] <deFrysk> cool
[08:19] <soci0path> musashiden, why are you compiling, and not just installing with synaptic?
[08:19] <buulian> cdubya, i'm mostly just trying to grasp unix/linux programming and system engineering
[08:19] <Gridblock> i have a 3com OfficeConnect wireless 11g pc card. It showed up in the network configuration windows before. now ive blacklisted the prism54 becuase i think ndiswrapper wants to run it alone. is it becuase Prism54 is blacklisted that it dosent show up?
[08:19] <musashiden> because i dont have synaptic installed? :S
[08:20] <Heeves> all:  hello
[08:20] <deFrysk> tonyyarusso, for xfce4 I would simply uncheck all xcfe4-blah packages in synaptic and remove them
[08:20] <j-linux> I can't get the wireless to work on my new ThinkPad T43 (centrino a/b/g).  It says my signal strength is 97%.  Received packets 2651..sent 319 (this is from the screenshots I took today)
[08:20] <cdubya> buulian, kewl. :)
[08:20] <soci0path> why don't you sudo dpkg -i mplayer****.deb?
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> deFrysk, This seems to be doing the trick.  Thanks.
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> But, if there are any developer types who would be interested, metapackage undo would be nice.
[08:21] <musashiden> soci0path: because i dont have the .deb file
[08:21] <mrice16453> got an apt question -- how do I find a package that isn't installed yet by a file that it may contain?
[08:21] <j-linux> I had also installed some kind of WiFi Radar with Automatix and that said I was connected, but with a Static IP address that I only use with eth0, not eth1 (wireless)
[08:21] <buulian> cdubya, how do you do the switch? can i just download and install kde and it's packages and then uninstall gnome?
[08:21] <j-linux> The built-in Ubuntu network stuff said I had a different IP.
[08:22] <timfrost> musashiden, do you not have any of the apt programs: adept, aptitude or apt-get
[08:22] <cdubya> buulian, no need to remove gnome. Once you've installed kde, logout and then click on session > KDE. then login. :)
[08:22] <buulian> ahhh, gotcha
[08:22] <Gridblock> how do i get XmmS ?
[08:22] <musashiden> timfrost: i do. but mplayer is not on the list
[08:22] <cdubya> buulian, np
[08:22] <cdubya> :)
[08:23] <musashiden> i have kynaptic, adept, and apt-get, but i cant get mplayer trought those. so i have to compile it myself :S
[08:23] <Seveas> !mplayer
[08:23] <ubotu> [mplayer]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[08:23] <timfrost> musashiden, mplayer-286 is in multiverse repositiry.  Have you enabled that?
[08:23] <buulian> gotta start somewhere,eh?
[08:23] <cdubya> buulian, exactly
[08:24] <Gridblock> isnt there a apt-get install command for XMMS? its not in synaptic...
[08:24] <mrice16453> what package is sys/types.h in ?
[08:24] <Seveas> !info xmms
[08:24] <shad0w1e> what are ubuntu's RAM requirements? I only have 64MB
[08:24] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 979 kB, Installed size: 7216 kB
[08:24] <cdubya> buulian, besides, at least you're on linux now. :)
[08:24] <Seveas> Gridblock, enable universe
[08:24] <Heeves> any one here know anything about embedded programming?
[08:24] <cdubya> buulian, gotta see that as cool.
[08:24] <Gridblock> seveas, universe?
[08:24] <musashiden> um, whats the location of source.list or whatever is called?
[08:24] <Seveas> !tell Gridblock about universe
[08:24] <Seveas> musashiden, /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:25] <buulian> cdubya, trust me, that was a feat in and of itself... i had to figure out ndiswrapper, ati noaccell, and noapic crap...
[08:25] <Gridblock> seveas, tnx
[08:25] <cdubya> buulian, ouch
[08:25] <buulian> i'm still not sure my clock is working right
[08:25] <mrice16453> date
[08:25] <musashiden> err, what are the multiverse deb lines?
[08:25] <cdubya> buulian, thankfully I installed breezy on this laptop and had no issues out of the box
[08:25] <Seveas> shad0w1e, 64mb is on the edge, better have a large swap and not run gnome or kde
[08:25] <buulian> lucky
[08:25] <Madpilot> !tell musashiden about sources
[08:26] <Tech^salvager> Hello
[08:26] <Seveas> hi Madpilot :)
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> Oh, btw, in case anyone else wonders about these things, I did an install over wireless with no problems.  (Intel PRO/Wireless 2915 abg)
[08:26] <buulian> firefox or konquorer?
[08:26] <Tech^salvager> Anyone know where I can get info on the sparc64 port of ubuntu?
[08:26] <cdubya> buulian, FF
[08:26] <Madpilot> hi Seveas
[08:26] <Seveas> Tech^salvager, there is no such thing
[08:26] <Tech^salvager> hmm
[08:27] <shad0w1e> Seveas, how about an old GNOME or KDE ?
[08:27] <buulian> tonyyarusso, i had serious problems with that card.... finally got it running though
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> So after installing FreeNX, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX claims it can be looked up in a menu, but where?
[08:27] <Tech^salvager> oh there is one Seveas or I would not see it on my sparc64 right now
[08:27] <Seveas> shad0w1e, better look at xfce or fluxbox
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> buulian, What sort of problems?  Mine's been fine out of the box.
[08:27] <shad0w1e> Seveas, I know about those, lol thanks
[08:27] <Seveas> Tech^salvager, hmm, I thought that was limited to sparc32
[08:27] <whatwhat> ops ... :\ i copy all my share to my apache server lol
[08:27] <Seveas> clearly I was wrong :)
[08:28] <cdubya> whatwhat, heh
[08:28] <buulian> ndiswrapper, modules, it's a pain if i boot away from the network as well
[08:28] <bnD> is there a way to remove all packages except for ones i specify?
[08:28] <bnD> :/
[08:28] <whatwhat> cdubya newbie stuff lol
[08:28] <Tech^salvager> Sevas hmm maybe this one is for sparc32....crud could tell be why its throwing me a Fast Data Access MMU Miss
[08:28] <bnD> i would like to take my system back to server install state if possible
[08:28] <Locke> does anyone know anything about damn small Linux?
[08:28] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ! splash screen
[08:28] <ubotu> s_spiff{AWAY}: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:28] <cdubya> whatwhat, hey, at least you're having fun with it...:)
[08:29] <bnD> but i dont want to lose my confs
[08:29] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ! splash
[08:29] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> Why does update-grub not recognize that my /boot is on a separate partition?
[08:29] <Gridblock> major update of ubuntu comming
[08:29] <s_spiff{AWAY}> what the hell is a splash screen man!
[08:29] <buulian> ! kde
[08:29] <whatwhat> cdubya shure i have :p
[08:29] <ubotu> kde is probably A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[08:29] <s_spiff{AWAY}> major update Gridblock ?
[08:29] <buulian> ! konqueror
[08:29] <ubotu> well, konqueror is the default Web Browser, File Manager, FTP manager and Universal viewing manager for the K Desktop Environment. See http://konqueror.org
[08:29] <bshumate> Seveas: I think it may be that the kernel is 64-bit, but userland is 32... Tech^salvager: http://sparc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-sparc/dists/hoary/main/installer-sparc/current/doc/manual/en/
[08:29] <cdubya> Locke, installed it once a long time back....
[08:29] <Seveas> Tech^salvager, ports.ubuntu.com has only sparc (aka sparc32) and hppa
[08:29] <buulian> ! firefox
[08:29] <Locke> cdubya: and your impression?
[08:30] <s_spiff{AWAY}> guys whats a splash screen?
[08:30] <cdubya> Locke, lean.
[08:30] <bnD> anyone know how to convert ubuntu full install to server install without losing conf files etc?
[08:30] <Seveas> bshumate, sparc.ubuntu.com is old and unmaintained
[08:30] <Tech^salvager> Seveas ok well there goes that, didn't notice that it was only sparc32
[08:30] <Locke> cdubya: i want something for a server on something slower than your aunt girdie
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> Seveas: I see your launchpad page says you wrote the FreeNX wiki page, do you know the answer to where in the menus nxclient would be?
[08:30] <cdubya> Locke, ran fluxbox if I remember right.....
[08:30] <cdubya> Locke, heh, that'd be a good choice I suspect, then.....
[08:31] <Locke> cdubya: then?
[08:31] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, applications -> internet
[08:31] <cdubya> Locke, only thing that caught me right off was that it didn't use apache as the default web server....
[08:31] <bshumate> Seveas: aha
[08:31] <mrice16453> hey all... I'm trying to use ubuntu on my laptop to do some perl hacking.  Sorry if this is a newb question but I can't compile any modules due to missing sys/types.h... google led me to irc, hoping you fine folks can lend me a clue
[08:31] <Locke> cdubya: shouldn't be TOO hard to configure
[08:31] <Locke> cdubya: ... right?
[08:31] <cdubya> Locke, yeah.
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> Seveas, Hmm, not seeing it there.
[08:31] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, did you just install it?
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> Seveas, Yeah.
[08:31] <cdubya> Locke, I just followed their docs verbatim and it setup nicely.
[08:32] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, pkill -HUP gnome-panel
[08:32] <bnD> anyone have a list of what the basic server installs?
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> Seveas, Beautiful.  (If a little disconcerting for a fraction of a second when things disappear.)
[08:33] <Seveas> Tech^salvager, iirc the sparc port was fabbiones pet project, but I'm not at all sure about that
[08:33] <Seveas> so for more info you ould try and poke him
[08:33] <Locke> cdubya: hows the driver support?
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> Seveas, Shouldn't that little trick be included on the wiki page?
[08:33] <cdubya> Locke, not sure what version it's currently at, but the one I tried was like 0.9.x.....it's still hangin around in the top ten downloads on distrowatch though
[08:33] <Tech^salvager> Sevas well I dunno anything really about porting linux to other systems so I don't think I could get it on my system...but ok
[08:33] <Sp4rKy> hi
[08:34] <Locke> cdubya: it's at like 2.2 or something
[08:34] <cdubya> Locke, from what I did, fine.....but it was on an old machine......
[08:34] <Sp4rKy> with a 64bit pc and ubuntu i386, i have to install kernel 386,686,k7?
[08:34] <Locke> cdubya: lol, this is on a 133 MHz Pentium 1 with 64 MB of RAM
[08:34] <Seveas> Sp4rKy, 686
[08:34] <timfrost> mrice16453, try libc6-dev.  Remember that -dev packages aren't installed by default.  You may need to install more dev packages
[08:34] <cdubya> Locke, heh, that sounds about right.....
[08:35] <garry> say mrice16453 if nobody answers, its that nobody knows. My guess is you might have to install build-essentials, but that might have nothing to do with hacking perl.
[08:35] <cdubya> Locke, ours was an MMX with 64MB.....
[08:35] <Sp4rKy> Seveas, thx
[08:35] <sethk> Tech^salvager, porting isn't as trivial as some people believe it to be
[08:35] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  mrice16453 did you check the forums by any chance?
[08:35] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  may havt the soln. there
[08:35] <cdubya> Locke, that old I'd suspect you're good unless you have some eccentric cards in that box
[08:35] <s_spiff{AWAY}> have*
[08:35] <Tech^salvager> sethk not in offtopic kubuntu?
[08:35] <mrice16453> s_spiff, yes but I may not have searched for the correct magic phrase
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> What does 'ubuntero' in launchpad profiles mean?
[08:36] <sethk> Tech^salvager, hmm?  It probably is offtopic.  do you mean you want to take it to off topic?
[08:36] <mrice16453> timfrost, thanks man... looking through -dev packages now
[08:36] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: that the person has signed the Ubuntu CoC
[08:36] <Gridblock> Any good firewalls???
[08:36] <Locke> cdubya: all i need it to do is display, run a server and connect to my network
[08:36] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, that you cryptographically signed the code of conduct
[08:36] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot, Seveas: Oh.
[08:36] <Tech^salvager> sethk well its less crowded there
[08:36] <Gridblock> Any good firewalls???
[08:36] <gumpish> Is it the case that the update-manager can not be run from a remote X session?
[08:36] <Psi-Jack> Welp! I'm here, in Kubuntu. :)
[08:37] <cdubya> Locke, I'd think you'd be ok with that then. Again, it's just from memory, quite some time ago.....
[08:37] <sethk> Tech^salvager, ok, what's the channel exactly?
[08:37] <Psi-Jack> Gridblock: You mean, besides the one built-in to Linux itself?
[08:37] <toydi> hi, anyone could help me up here? I need to shrink my root directory (it's in LVM)
[08:37] <Tech^salvager> sethk #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:37] <Gridblock> psi-jack, yes
[08:37] <sethk> Tech^salvager, ok, I'm there
[08:37] <KoN> Gridblock: I would recommend firestarter
[08:37] <Madpilot> Gridblock: Firestarter is a good front-end app for firewall
[08:38] <Psi-Jack> Gridblock: Obviously you don't know Linux.. At all. :)
[08:38] <Gridblock> kon, Madpilot, thanks
[08:38] <garry> I was frying brain cells trying to remember that name "Firestarter"
[08:38] <Gridblock> psi-jack, no but you must know everything! :D
[08:38] <Psi-Jack> Gridblock: No. I wouldn't say I know... EVERYTHING... :)
[08:38] <Madpilot> Psi-Jack: that's not an uncommon condition around here, but it's curable :P
[08:39] <garry> lo.
[08:39] <garry> lol
[08:39] <Psi-Jack> KDE looks DANG good. Better than I remember it.
[08:39] <Locke> Psi-Jack: Windows LOOKS good...
[08:39] <cdubya> heh
[08:39] <KoN> heh
[08:40] <moodog> Morning all.
[08:40] <Seveas> Locke, no it doesn't
[08:40] <garry> You said the W word!
[08:40] <Psi-Jack> Heh. odd.
[08:40] <s_spiff{AWAY}> what is a splash screen?
[08:40] <Locke> Seveas: yes, actually, it is fairly pretty, just evil and an abomination to all things tech
[08:40] <gumpish> =/ where's "strings"??
[08:40] <bnD> anyone know how to remove everything GUI related easily? (back to basic server install?)
[08:40] <Psi-Jack> I just plugged my USB thumbdrive, in, and got an error about media:/sda1 not existing...
[08:40] <Seveas> s_spiff{AWAY}, a startup screen shown wile something is starting
[08:41] <mrice16453> s_spiff, usually a fancy screen that displays momentarily while an app is starting
[08:41] <s_spiff{AWAY}> umm ok...like the xp boots with the black screen ..with the logo and sutff?
[08:41] <garry> a graphic boredom preventin screen.
[08:41] <mrice16453> s_spiff, yeah, that'd be one example
[08:41] <Madpilot> garry: I like your definition
[08:41] <Gridblock> were is the splash img located(so i can change it)
[08:42] <paladinew> how do I burn a directory in 5.10 ?
[08:42] <mrice16453> gridblock, for the boot?
[08:42] <garry> Madpilot :) Tnx
[08:42] <KoN> Psi-Jack: you need to create the folder /media/sda1 more tahn likely
[08:42] <winograd> !mouse
[08:42] <ubotu> mouse is, like, totally, Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev
[08:42] <Gridblock> mrice16453, the splash screen that shows when things are loading, after logon
[08:43] <paladinew> cd burning app ?
[08:43] <Psi-Jack> KoN: Well, that's in KDE's "Storage Media" thing.
[08:43] <garry> The blue screen of death is another oft used windows splash screen, splash in that it shows just before the computer is tossed into the pool.
[08:43] <cdubya> paladinew, gnomebaker
[08:44] <Gridblock> how do i upgrade to the other version of *nix without loosing what i have worked for?
[08:45] <Madpilot> paladinew: k3b
[08:45] <s_spiff{AWAY}> Gridblock, meaning? other vesion?
[08:45] <Psi-Jack> Hmm. What the heck?
[08:45] <Gridblock> s_spiff{AWAY}, yes
[08:45] <Psi-Jack> I don't remember Kubuntu's installation asking me what the root password should be..
[08:45] <Madpilot> Psi-Jack: there isn't one - use sudo and your own user pw
[08:45] <Hobbsee> !tell Psi-Jack about root
[08:46] <_skbera> I am unable to kill some processes when they are abnormaly terminated. for example I can't the pppd process when the connection terminated automatically, even as root. Please help me.
[08:46] <KoN> Psi-Jack: well, kunbuntu's handling of removable media is a bit buggy atm, i would say check for the folder /media/sda1 in existance, and check for /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab
[08:46] <s_spiff{AWAY}> Gridblock, u mean to dapper drake?
[08:46] <Psi-Jack> KoN: Yeah. Kinda what I'm doing, till I ran into the problem with root's pw. :)
[08:46] <garry> killl -9 processID might do it if I recall.
[08:46] <Gridblock> s_spiff{AWAY}, Breezy
[08:46] <s_spiff{AWAY}> Psi-Jack, even ubuntu installation never asks for that..
[08:46] <cdubya> night all
[08:47] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  you have to set it later.
[08:47] <bshumate> _skbera: "sudo killall -9 pppd" brings no joy for you?
[08:47] <_skbera> I have used kill -9 pid. But no use.
[08:47] <Madpilot> s_spiff{AWAY}: you don't need to set anything up later...
[08:47] <_skbera> The STAT of the process is D when listed with ps -x.
[08:48] <Sigu> sometimes...I just hate this computer :P
[08:48] <garry> Ok, thanks, I just learned something.
[08:48] <_skbera> And it can't be killed by any means.
[08:48] <s_spiff{AWAY}> Madpilot, we can set a password for the root later right?
[08:48] <garry> Magnum 457 killls any process.
[08:48] <s_spiff{AWAY}> i think i did it, via that user something...in the System>Admin menu
[08:48] <Madpilot> s_spiff{AWAY}: yes, but all the GUI tools are set up to use sudo
[08:48] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ok..
[08:49] <Sigu> s_spiff{AWAY}: You can, but its not recommended to set a password.
[08:49] <Sigu> Madpilot: aye :P
[08:49] <s_spiff{AWAY}> hmm..
[08:49] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ! themes
[08:49] <bshumate> _skbera: what does : sudo killall -v -9 pppd say?
[08:49] <Madpilot> s_spiff{AWAY}: have you read the RootSudo wiki page?
[08:50] <s_spiff{AWAY}> !themes
[08:50] <s_spiff{AWAY}> wher is ubotu?
[08:50] <s_spiff{AWAY}> no..
[08:50] <kadaj> http://www.distrowatch.com
[08:50] <_skbera> bshumate: It says nothing
[08:50] <s_spiff{AWAY}> will do that some time
[08:50] <Madpilot> !tell s_spiff{AWAY} about sudo
[08:50] <kadaj> please enter this site
[08:50] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  don't get much time..
[08:50] <bshumate> _skbera: try: sudo pkill -9 pppd
[08:50] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  ! themes
[08:50] <kadaj> has all linux new
[08:50] <Sigu> !help
[08:50] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ubotu tell me about themes
[08:50] <Madpilot> s_spiff{AWAY}: for long messages,the bot should be sending you pm's
[08:50] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ok
[08:50] <_skbera> bshumate: I have tried that also.
[08:51] <s_spiff{AWAY}> it didnt'
[08:51] <s_spiff{AWAY}> untill now
[08:51] <jenda-school> doubled up there, s_spiff{AWAY} :)
[08:51] <Sigu> hmm
[08:51] <Sigu> ati...
[08:52] <viviersf> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[08:52] <viviersf> wth did that pop out
[08:52] <bshumate> _skbera: bummer. i've never had trouble killing a proc that's simply sleeping pending i/o before...
[08:52] <_skbera> bshumate: Ya. Me also.
[08:53] <mrice16453> _skbera, what's the parent pid doing? (if it's != 1)
[08:53] <s_spiff{AWAY}> crap..i tried all the sites for themes...not one single Amy Sue Cooper basted theme/wallpaper etc... anyone know where i can pick up this?
[08:53] <jeeves_> does any one here know how I can play MP3s from a samba share in XMM?
[08:53] <_skbera> Parent PID in init.d
[08:53] <mrice16453> _skbera, also look for children pids
[08:53] <_skbera> Its pppd process, which stuck...
[08:54] <mrice16453> _skbera, I didn't parse that
[08:54] <bnD> anyone know of a list of packages installed if i choose 'server' from the inital install menu from cd?
[08:54] <mrice16453> _skbera, does the pppd process have any children -- they may need separate signalling.... is the pppd processes parent something other than pid 1 (init)?
[08:55] <mrice16453> bnD, no, but there is likely a file on the cd that lists them
[08:55] <_skbera> No. it has no children...
[08:55] <bnD> mrice16453, any idea where i might look on the cd? :)
[08:55] <zdux0012> can I ask for help getting mythTv to work              "can't open /dev/video0: No such file or directory"
[08:56] <bnD> mrice16453, and do you know of a way to remove everything but specified packages?
[08:56] <bnD> :p
[08:56] <mrice16453> bnD, nope :( new to ubuntu -- could tell you on RedHat derivatives, but I doubt that will help in any way
[08:56] <bnD> mrice16453, ok, thanks ;) ill go browse the cd
[08:56] <khermans> I have problems with sound, but it works on the Breezy live cd!!
[08:56] <khermans> any help?
[08:56] <_skbera> Anyway. Thankyou all for your kind help.
[08:56] <markitoxs> hello there
[08:57] <mrice16453> bnD, only way to remove everything but specified packages that I know if is to flip your list -- remove your specified packages from a list of all packages and pass those to remove (and pray)
[08:57] <zdux0012> I think I just need to install the driver?
[08:57] <markitoxs> does anyone know, if there is a fix to solve the "should not use SendMEssage" wine issue?
[08:57] <bnD> mrice16453, :)
[08:57] <khermans> khermans, :-(
[08:58] <mrice16453> goodnight, all
[08:59] <zdux0012> can I ask for help getting mythTv to work              "can't open /dev/video0: No such file or directory"
[08:59] <zdux0012> I'm not sure which command installs the drivers, I am following directions
[08:59] <tonyyarusso> What does ro do as a kernel parameter in the grub line?
[09:00] <ali> hey guys, a samba question. I've got samba set up, and it works i can connect to the shares on the desired machine. my only problem is that you can't "see" it on any windows/mac/linux machines it's doesnt advertise itself or something. anyone know what this parameter would be called in smb.conf
[09:00] <ali> ?
[09:00] <bnD> anyone know where to look on the install cd to find what packages are installed by using the server install option?
[09:00] <markitoxs> does anyone know, if there is a fix to solve the "should not use SendMEssage" wine issue?
[09:00] <bnD> ls
[09:00] <bnD> woops
[09:01] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, well, that's annoying. Can't seem to get to help.ubuntu.com
[09:02] <khermans> can someone help me recover my sound?  it used to work :-
[09:02] <khermans> i can hear the PC speaker beep, but no other audio plays
[09:03] <Hobbsee> !tell khermans about sound
[09:03] <Madpilot> Psi-Jack: that server has been having some trouble for a few days
[09:03] <khermans> Hobbsee, already followed that
[09:03] <khermans> Hobbsee, plus it is for Hoary
[09:03] <Hobbsee> it hasnt been updated?
[09:04] <khermans> no
[09:05] <bnD> if anyone wants to revert to 'server install' mark all packages for removal, then mark ubuntu-standard for reinstallation :)
[09:06] <bnD> rofl
[09:07] <cyphase> https://console.google.com/
[09:07] <zdux0012> I don't have the /dev/video0 file, is it possible that someone could send it to me,, and that the missing file is the problem?
[09:08] <sethk> zdux0012, those aren't really files, they are device nodes
[09:08] <sethk> zdux0012, frequently created by hotswap code
[09:08] <khermans> cyphase, what is this?
[09:08] <zdux0012> sethk: how would I get it?
[09:08] <talios> cyphase, got a user/password? :)
[09:08] <sethk> zdux0012, usually by configuring your kernel to match your hardware
[09:09] <zdux0012> sethk: when I boot "hotswap" does not say "ok"
[09:09] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, am I missing something, or does Ubuntu not come with the Lexmark Z600 cups driver?
[09:09] <sethk> zdux0012, not sure exactly what that means
[09:09] <cyphase> khermans, i don't know
[09:09] <cyphase> i was just doing some snooping :P
[09:09] <cyphase> talios, no
[09:10] <talios> cyphase, well your no fun :)
[09:10] <Psi-Jack> And where the heck is apt-search? :)
[09:10] <zdux0012> sethk:   in the directions I was following I used the command "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-386",,
[09:10] <khermans> cyphase, google/donoevil
[09:10] <sethk> zdux0012, that is usually an early step for building a kernel module
[09:10] <khermans> to login/...
[09:11] <zdux0012> sethk: this command didn't work,, someone suggested to me to use apt-get install (r --)     I forget exactly what it was
[09:11] <sethk> zdux0012, and building the correct module will produce the correct /dev file when the module is loaded
[09:11] <zdux0012> sethk: thanks for the info
[09:11] <sethk> zdux0012, that's a bit vague.
[09:11] <sethk> :)
[09:11] <zdux0012> sorry, I am very new to this
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> How can I run vlc in a console?  I've done it before, but just now it told me unable to open display.
[09:12] <sethk> zdux0012, I'm not being critical, I'm just explaining why I don't have anything more useful to say
[09:12] <zdux0012> no I understand,, Thanks
[09:12] <robotgeek> tonyyarusso: the ascii art plugin
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> robotgeek, How do I get that?
[09:12] <bnD> ok
[09:12] <bnD> im uninstalling everything but server
[09:12] <bnD> wish me luck
[09:13] <bnD> wee
[09:13] <robotgeek> tonyyarusso: i think you select it as the video output mode
[09:13] <zdux0012> sethk: how can I rebuild the kernel, is there an apt-get rebuild ?
[09:13] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm. Okay. IS there an deb package for the Lexmark z600 printer driver?
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> robotgeek, Hmm...
[09:14] <sethk> zdux0012, I don't believe so, no.  You install the kernel source, and then build it from the command line
[09:14] <j2dope> is there a linux ftp client that can compete with filezilla's speed?
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> robotgeek, Do you happen to know how to do that?
[09:15] <robotgeek> tonyyarusso: no, long time since i messed with it
[09:15] <zdux0012> sethk: this is the make and make install command I guess then.. maybe it failed and I missed the message,, I will try thoughes commands again,, thanks
[09:15] <s_spiff{AWAY}> brb
[09:16] <sethk> zdux0012, make bzImage modules modules_install install
[09:16] <j2dope> anyone?
[09:16] <hejux> hi! i have just installed ubuntu 6.04 ,it seems that the "fontconfig" is not  like before
[09:17] <wmjoers> Anyone know about a GUI-frontend for scp that works well on Ubuntu?
[09:18] <rikai> hm, how could i go about finding out what is currently reading my hard drive?
[09:18] <nbound> ubuntu has updated me to the newest kernel, and i wanna install the nvidia drivers... yet i need kernel headers and the ones on synaptic are older than my kernel
[09:18] <zdux0012> sethk: I get a message to move a file to the "hotplug firmware directory", do you know where this directory is?
[09:18] <hejux> the problem is ,i copy some fonts to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ dir. ,but i cannt choose to use them !
[09:18] <walders> Hi - having trouble with Java runtime env...have it installed, but no plug-in recognised in Firefox.  Is there a way to add the plug-in?
[09:18] <sethk> zdux0012, no, sorry, not off hand
[09:19] <zdux0012> sethk,, sorry to bug you thanks for your help
[09:19] <sethk> zdux0012, I believe it would go in the same tree as kernel modules, but I'm not sure
[09:20] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, what's a good TV watching program, notibly if there is one good one for KDE?
[09:20] <nbound> ubuntu has updated me to the newest kernel, and i wanna install the nvidia drivers... yet i need kernel headers and the ones on synaptic are older than my kernel any ideas ppl?
[09:20] <polpak> wmjoers: uh.. just go to places->connect to server
[09:21] <polpak> wmjoers: you can specify scp as the protocol, and just drag/drop files via nautilus
[09:21] <polpak> nbound: why not install the nvidia driver package for ubuntu?
[09:21] <nbound> where do i find it?
[09:21] <polpak> !nvidia
[09:21] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[09:22] <wmjoers> That was to easy :-)
[09:22] <polpak> wmjoers: we aim to please =)
[09:23] <Linfanguin> i am trying to initiate 3d desktop and this is the error i recieve " glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!
[09:23] <Linfanguin> 3ddeskd: Please configure hardware acceleration.  Exiting.
[09:23] <Linfanguin> "
[09:23] <Linfanguin> how can i fix this issue?
[09:23] <polpak> Linfanguin: what video card do you use?
[09:23] <j2dope> is there a linux ftp client that can compete with filezilla's speed?
[09:23] <Linfanguin> an intel integrated card is a laptop
[09:23] <Linfanguin> i was using it fine
[09:24] <polpak> j2dope:  .... ftp command line, or.. ?
[09:24] <Linfanguin> then i deleted it by accident installed it worked fine for like a day then stopped working
[09:24] <polpak> j2dope: the client is rarely the bottleneck for speed on ftp clients
[09:25] <polpak> j2dope: The easiest ftp client for graphical type stuff is to just go to Places->Connect To Server and specify ftp as the protocol
[09:25] <whatwhat> is help.ubuntu.org down? :x or is my problem ?
[09:25] <nbound> so i install the glx package AND the settings package?
[09:25] <polpak> whatwhat: hrm.. seems down to me
[09:25] <j2dope> hmm. well filezilla uploads my files sooo much quicker than gftp
[09:26] <polpak> j2dope: did you try just using nautilus?
[09:26] <j2dope> it doesn't pause between uploads it seems
[09:26] <j2dope> polpak, no, but ill try thanks
[09:26] <hejux> can normally user use this file ???
[09:26] <hejux> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10500792 2006-01-11 16:03 simsun.ttf
[09:26] <whatwhat> polpak ok thanks this is because i was there and just leaves me down like this lol thanks you :p
[09:26] <liable> hejux: read and execute, yes.
[09:27] <polpak> nbound: if you have a newer nvidia card you need nvidia-settings and nvidia-glx yes
[09:27] <polpak> nbound: just follow the wiki, it's pretty self explainatory
[09:27] <dibblego> what is the difference between ubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso and ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso ?
[09:27] <hejux> liable, i have a problem
[09:27] <polpak> dibblego: the live cd doesn't install anything to your hard disk
[09:27] <polpak> dibblego: it's just a bootable linux system
[09:27] <dibblego> polpak: so it
[09:27] <dibblego> s just a bootable disk?
[09:28] <dibblego> ok thanks
[09:28] <hejux> liable, would you like to listen to me  ?
[09:28] <polpak> dibblego: correct
[09:28] <nbound> polpak, these drivers are old though :( 7667
[09:28] <polpak> dibblego: gives you a "preview" of ubuntu without having to install anything
[09:28] <dibblego> righto cheers
[09:28] <liable> hejux: just ask in channel, and if i or others can help, then we will.
[09:28] <polpak> nbound: they work pretty well all the same
[09:29] <hejux> liable, i asked ,no one noticed
[09:29] <Linfanguin> polpak, i have an intel video card on my laptop do you know how i can configure it to make 3d desktop
[09:29] <polpak> ubotu tell hejux about anyone
[09:29] <nbound> newer ones are faster... if i can figure out the kernel headers prob i can have 81.78's
[09:29] <liable> hejux: probably no one here knows. maybe ask again in a hour or two
[09:30] <liable> hejux: ah, fonts, i am definately not the man to help you with that. :)
[09:30] <polpak> Linfanguin: nope.. haven't messed with intel video cards
[09:30] <liable> hejux: sorry, i'm a fonts tard..
[09:30] <polpak> !fonts
[09:30] <ubotu> well, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[09:30] <AMCDeathKnight> !vlc
[09:30] <ubotu> methinks vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[09:31] <AMCDeathKnight> VLC is not in the repos
[09:31] <hejux> ok again , i have just installed ubuntu 6.04 ,the newest ,well ,i copied some fonts to the dir. /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ ,the run fc-cache ,but i can not choose to use them on the system-option-fonts pannel.
[09:32] <hejux> is that clear
[09:32] <dibblego> isn't 5.10 the latest?
[09:32] <hejux> dibblego, no , i am using 6.04
[09:33] <hejux> called dapper
[09:33] <Tomcat_> dibblego: Latest stable, yes. :)
[09:33] <dibblego> well that implies a release data of April 2006, which hasn't happened yet
[09:33] <dibblego> ok - so it's beta?
[09:33] <Tomcat_> I'd rather say alpha :o
[09:33] <Madpilot> dibblego: there are early release versions of Dapper
[09:34] <dibblego> ok
[09:34] <AMCDeathKnight> What repository is vlc in?
[09:34] <AMCDeathKnight> I need to add it
[09:34] <liable> !info vlc
[09:34] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[09:35] <AMCDeathKnight> It wont sat
[09:35] <AMCDeathKnight> *say
[09:35] <liable> say what?
[09:35] <Zomb> hi
[09:35] <AMCDeathKnight> the repository
[09:35] <Zomb> can I use drivers from Debian Sid's X.org with Ubuntu somehow?
[09:35] <liable> its in universe..
[09:35] <Zomb> fglrx does not work but I need more recent radeon driver, that in breezy do not work
[09:35] <AMCDeathKnight> ok whats the universe so I can add it
[09:36] <liable> Zomb: that may work, or may horribly breax/your system (either now or in the future)
[09:36] <Tomcat_> !universe
[09:36] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:36] <AMCDeathKnight> thanks
[09:36] <bamm`laptop> Justr need to uncomment it in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:36] <bamm`laptop> heh
[09:37] <Zomb> we will see. For now, I will try to backport X.
[09:37] <dibblego> my local mirror doesn't seem to have the 5.10 DVD, what am I missing if I just download the install CD ISO?
[09:38] <ompaul> dibblego, have you got dsl all the time
[09:38] <Tomcat_> dibblego: The DVD contains the universe and multiverse repositories afaik. So you're msising nothing if you're online.
[09:38] <dibblego> yeah but it's slow
[09:39] <shad0w1e> Ladies and gentlemen, prepare to be amazed. I just got KDE 3.3 to run just fine on a virtual machine allocated only 64MB of ram. Took a while to start up, but ran fine once it was up!!
[09:39] <bamm`laptop> uhh,  ocngrats
[09:39] <nbound> so if i ever want to update these drivers with the ones from the nvidia site, how would i go about doing it?
[09:39] <bamm`laptop> congrats even
[09:39] <ompaul> dibblego, well you may not install all the materials from the DVD at any one time - so the question is have you more than one machine if so then it may be worth your while if not just pay the price of downloading now and again
[09:39] <Tomcat_> dibblego: If you only use a couple of packages from multiverse/universe, the DVD download will be so much useless stuff that it'll be better to install from the net.
[09:39] <shad0w1e> just wanted everyone to know it's possible, heh
[09:40] <dibblego> ok thanks
[09:40] <dibblego> I'll use work's bandwidth for the DVD I think :)
[09:40] <ompaul> shad0w1e, have you documented what you have done there? stick it on the wiki and shout it from the mountain tops
[09:41] <AMCDeathKnight> weird live cd has trouble reading the notification and window tabs
[09:41] <AMCDeathKnight> I keep getting "Bus error"
[09:41] <AMCDeathKnight> What does that mean
[09:41] <dibblego> means you need to catch a taxi
[09:42] <grigora> does anyone know why when I try to apt-get install g++, I get asked for the disc? tia
[09:42] <bamm`laptop> Because g++ is on the discs :P
[09:42] <AMCDeathKnight> help please
[09:42] <dibblego> it means a C program has inappropriately addressed memory
[09:42] <AMCDeathKnight> ok
[09:42] <AMCDeathKnight> how can i fi xit
[09:42] <AMCDeathKnight> I cant do anything
[09:43] <dibblego> contact the author of the program I guess
[09:43] <AMCDeathKnight> it all shuts down automaticlly
[09:43] <grigora> bamm`laptop: well, that's the first time I hear such a thing ... why is it not in the repositories?
[09:43] <AMCDeathKnight> every single program
[09:44] <ompaul> AMCDeathKnight,  have you  a second live CD from any distro (including ubuntu)
[09:44] <AMCDeathKnight> yes
[09:44] <AMCDeathKnight> another ubuntu one
[09:44] <theine> grigora, it is, but the CD might have priority
[09:44] <bamm`laptop> The cd is in repos list
[09:44] <ompaul> AMCDeathKnight, it may be that you have a faulty disk
[09:44] <bamm`laptop> comment it out and try again?
[09:45] <grigora> theine: ok ... I don't have the CD, is there any way to bypass that?
[09:45] <theine> bamm`laptop, yes, do that
[09:45] <bamm`laptop> and get errors
[09:45] <bamm`laptop> 8)
[09:45] <ompaul> AMCDeathKnight, let us know how you get on
[09:45] <theine> bamm`laptop, after you commented out?
[09:45] <AMCDeathKnight> k
[09:45] <bamm`laptop> ?
[09:45] <bamm`laptop> I didn't comment it out ;x
[09:45] <theine> bamm`laptop, comment it out
[09:46] <grigora> theine: and also, why is the cd a priority, doesn't gcc get updated?
[09:46] <bamm`laptop> lol
[09:46] <bamm`laptop> I have in past
[09:46] <bamm`laptop> ;] 
[09:46] <theine> bamm`laptop, sorry, I really meant gridora when talking to you...
[09:47] <liable> grigora: comment out the cd in your sources list
[09:47] <ompaul> grigora, it is in main you can install it >> sudo apt-get install build-essential<< which will pull in GCC and all relevant things
[09:47] <theine> grigora, don't know, maybe the version on the CD is actually not older than the one online
[09:47] <Gridblock> hey. just changed the splash screen but the background behid the splash screen is red. how do i change that?
[09:48] <bamm`laptop> Anyone know how long it takes paypal to finish a fraud investigation
[09:48] <grigora> theine: many thanks, it worked
[09:48] <theine> grigora, welcome
[09:48] <Gridblock> bamm`laptop, whant have you been doing!? :P
[09:49] <Gridblock> hey. just changed the splash screen but the background behid the splash screen is red. how do i change that?
[09:49] -lilo(i=levin@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin)- [Server Notice]  Hi all. Just a reminder. The server you're on, brown.freenode.net, is scheduled for maintenance and will need to be re-upped. You can help by disconnecting and reconnecting to chat.freenode.net so that we can get the user count down.
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[09:50] <ompaul> Gridblock, we can see that please wait 15 minutes to see if anyone has ideas - although there are over 500 here maybe no one knows
[09:50] <theine> Gridblock, which splash screen?
[09:51] <Gridblock> ompaul, ok ill w8 :) srry for double posting.
[09:51] <theine> Gridblock, usplash, gnome?
[09:51] <Gridblock> theine, the one that boots right after login
[09:51] <Gridblock> theine, gome
[09:51] <dibblego> is there a client for the MSN protocol for Linux?
[09:51] <nbound> ive installed nvidia drivers and added 2 higher resolutions to my xorg.conf but i cant use them =/
[09:52] <nbound> dibblego, use gaim it comes with ubuntu
[09:52] <bamm`laptop> Ugh
[09:52] <bamm`laptop> When your uncle works for apple and buys a apple wireless router
[09:52] <bamm`laptop> your wifi dies a lot
[09:52] <bamm`laptop> :[
[09:52] <Gridblock> hehe
[09:53] <AMCDeathKnight> hmm?
[09:53] <theine> Gridblock, look in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[09:53] <whatwhat> dibblego i think they are luching mercury msn ... to linux if im not mistaked
[09:54] <theine> Gridblock, there's a line that starts with "BackgroundColor"
[09:54] <highvoltage> anyone able to help me with this? http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/cgi-bin/bugzilla/index.cgi
[09:54] <nbound> ive installed nvidia drivers and added 2 higher resolutions to my xorg.conf but i cant use them =/ anyone help???
[09:55] <theine> Gridblock, maybe you can also change this somewhere in the Gnome system settings, but I wouldn't know as I don't run Gnome...
[09:55] <bamm`laptop> Whatcha trying to do?
[09:55] <whatwhat> dibblego http://www.mercury.to/ they say it suport webcam and everything i don try it yet :\
[09:55] <dibblego> ok thanks
[09:56] <bamm`laptop> Ruh roh
[09:57] <theine> ``Affected users, just under 2000, so you'll notice it.'' <- What?
[09:57] <Battlestar> they mean 2000 people will be disconnected from the server
[09:57] <bamm`laptop> 2000 connected to server they're rebooting :P
[09:57] <theine> Battlestar, ah, I see
[09:58] <Battlestar> anyway before they do so could someone help me; i need to modify the permissions on one of my folders
[09:58] <theine> Battlestar, which one?
[09:58] <Battlestar> i am sharing a folder over my network and using sambe to share it with a windows computer
[09:58] <ompaul> highvoltage, is it a bug in Ubuntu - if so you report it there and let them pass it upstream
[09:59] <theine> Battlestar, oh, samba... can't help you with that, sorry
[09:59] <nbound> ive installed nvidia drivers and added 2 higher resolutions to my xorg.conf but i cant use them =/ anyone??????
[09:59] <NickZA> hi, any idea how I can remove ctrl+alt+del which is assigned to system monitor, as it now doesnt allow me sent a ctrl+alt+delete to a vnc session ?
[09:59] <Battlestar> i wanted to change the permissions to rw-rw-rw so i can access the folder fully from the windows computer
[09:59] <Battlestar> it's nothing to do with sambe
[09:59] <Battlestar> *amba
[09:59] <Battlestar> *samba
[09:59] <Battlestar> i just need to modify the permissions for the folder
[09:59] <theine> nbound, did you add them by hand in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[09:59] <Battlestar> but i can't because it says i'm not the owner or something
[10:00] <ompaul> !tell Battlestar about enter
[10:00] <ompaul> Battlestar, could you take a look at that message from the bot please :-)
[10:00] <theine> Battlestar, ok, so what are the current permission and what shall the new ones be? also, what's the whole path to that folder on your system?
[10:00] !lilo:*! about to do that restart
[10:00] -lilo(i=levin@freenode/staff/pdpc.levin)- [Server Notice]  Hi all. Here we go. We'll see you on the other side!
[10:01] <Battlestar> current permissions are just read for others
[10:01] -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- This nickname is owned by someone else
[10:01] -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
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[10:02] <ompaul> Astinus, are all boxes getting rebooted?
[10:02] <Battlestar> i need to change the "others" permissions to read, write and execute
[10:02] <Battlestar> whats with all the people joining
[10:02] <AMCDeathKnight> Just letting you guys know it was the CD that was the problem
[10:02] <Myrtti> splits
[10:02] <theine> Battlestar, chmod +w /home/nick/My\ Documents/Shared\ Docs/
[10:02] <dibblego> netsplit
[10:03] <theine> Battlestar, that's one line
[10:03] <[nige] > hey all
[10:03] <[nige] > anyone know of a way to do things like "remote desktop connection to a linux box"
[10:03] <[nige] > sort of like windows remote desktop
[10:03] <ompaul> but then it said that already :-/
[10:03] <Myrtti> ompaul: ie split ;-)
[10:04] <Myrtti> 11:01 -!- Netsplit clarke.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits:
[10:04] <NickZA> [nige] , prob ssh ?
[10:04] <theine> [nige] , from linux to linux?
[10:04] <tolstoy> ah, there it is.
[10:04] <liable> [nige] : vnc
[10:04] <ompaul> Myrtti, heh
[10:04] <[nige] > i suppose i could use vnc
[10:04] <theine> [nige] , yes, use vnc
[10:04] <[nige] > i havent seen much in the way of server settings
[10:04] <tolstoy> well folks, i can't get wireless working on ubuntu, but all the other distros suck in comparision, so i'm sticking with it.
[10:04] <NickZA> hi, any idea how I can remove ctrl+alt+del which is assigned to system monitor, as it now doesnt allow me sent a ctrl+alt+delete to a vnc session ?
[10:05] <[nige] > whats the bestway to do a vnc, i can already ssh into the other box
[10:05] <bamm`laptop> tolstoy what wifi card
[10:05] <bamm`laptop> wireless*
[10:05] <theine> Battlestar, was that what you were looking for?
[10:05] <liable> [nige] : install it, run it, log in, done.. :)
[10:05] <blue-frog> [nige] , use freenx, search wiki for it
[10:05] <theine> [nige] , log in via ssh to the remote box and start a vncserver
[10:06] <tolstoy> bamm`laptop: ipw2200.
[10:06] <sethk> [nige] , neither vnc nor freenx are typically smart things to use
[10:06] <tolstoy> bamm`laptop: works fine under fedora core 4.
[10:06] <theine> sethk, no?
[10:06] <bamm`laptop> What problem you having, not reconizing, errors?
[10:06] <sethk> [nige] , it is always better to use the capabilities built into X
[10:06] <theine> sethk, what's smarter?
[10:06] <sethk> theine, X has full remote support built right into it
[10:07] <sethk> theine, and has a thing called XDMCP for remote login
[10:07] <fek> moin
[10:07] <tolstoy> bamm`laptop: gets an IP over dhcp, can't do anything else.  pinging the router gives me "unreachable host"
[10:07] <[nige] > see well i though xdmcp
[10:07] <[nige] > i am might look into that
[10:07] <[nige] > brb
[10:07] <sethk> theine, which allows you to totally separate the location of the display from everything else
[10:07] <tolstoy> bamm`laptop: how can I get an IP from the router, but not anything else?  can't figure it.  ah, well.
[10:07] <sethk> tolstoy, that's quite possible
[10:07] <theine> sethk, I never used that feature but I don't thinks that it's a practical solution in every case
[10:07] <NickZA> no-one have a clue how I can remove the ctrl+alt+del thats been assigned to system monitor ??
[10:07] <sethk> theine, in 15 years I've not seen a case where it isn't
[10:08] <bamm`laptop> Remove the binding for metacity
[10:08] <bamm`laptop> bad speller sheesh
[10:08] <sethk> tolstoy, dhcp get's information by doing a broadcast
[10:08] <NickZA> where do i find that ?
[10:08] <theine> sethk, ok, could you perhaps point me to a webpage that explains how to use this?
[10:08] <tolstoy> sethk: okay.  sounds good.  you're the first to tell me that. ;)
[10:08] <sethk> theine, the xorg site, and the x consortium site
[10:09] <theine> sethk, I suppose using XDMCP I could access my local display with CTRL+ALT+F7 and a remote display with CTRL+ALT+F8 (for instance)?
[10:10] <tolstoy> sethk: i even tried pasting over the firmware with stuff from the website: no good. ah, well.
[10:10] <sethk> theine, you could, by making them two different X displays, yes
[10:10] <theine> sethk, that would be lovely
[10:10] <sethk> tolstoy, I only saw the last couple of things you wrote, so I don't know what problem you are having
[10:10] <levander> I know I didn't directly install the mpg321 package on my machine myself.  Anyone got an idea what other package may have installed it?
[10:11] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, is libstdc++ 6 backwards compatible to 5?
[10:11] <sethk> Psi-Jack, it usually doesn't matter, because if something is linked against 5, it won't run against 6
[10:11] <tolstoy> sethk: I get an IP via DHCP, but every other request is "host unreachable".  even pinging IP addresses.  however, no errors via ifconfig | grep errors, and the netmon seems to think stuff's going over the interface okay.
[10:11] <sethk> Psi-Jack, best to just keep both 5 and 6
[10:11] <Psi-Jack> sethk: Dangit. okay.
[10:12] <sethk> tolstoy, the netmask looks correct?
[10:12] <fek> while there be soon an update available of xorg, wich fixes my problem with the resolution problem of 1600x1200@60?
[10:12] <Psi-Jack> Cool. That'll work. :)
[10:12] <sethk> tolstoy, almost always, if you try to ping the local network and get network unreachable, the netmask is wrong
[10:12] <theine> levander, just do "sudo apt-get remove mpg321" and see which other packages will be removed as well (you will be asked to confirm the removal before it's actually done...)
[10:12] <Battlestar> right sorry about that
[10:12] <Psi-Jack> Trying to get my Lexmark drivers to work, and I ldd'd the bins and they needed libstdc++5
[10:12] <tolstoy> sethk: would that affect pinging, say, google's ip address as well?
[10:12] <Battlestar> whole ubuntu froze up when i tried to switch to console
[10:12] <tolstoy> sethk: i'll check that out.
[10:12] <sethk> tolstoy, yes, because you can't get to the gateway, so you can't get anywhere, most likely
[10:13] <tolstoy> sethk: so, for a 192.168.0.1 router, the netmask should be 255.255.255.0, right?
[10:13] <Battlestar> so who can help me either log in as owner (so i can change permissions) or change permissions otherwise?
[10:13] <sethk> tolstoy, that's typical, yes, although other configurations are possible
[10:13] <tolstoy> sethk: makes sense. (it's late, for me, anyway)
[10:13] <theine> Battlestar, you aren't actually the owner of that folder?
[10:13] <bamm`laptop> nickza sorry forgot pm disabled for non  registered
[10:13] <bamm`laptop> depends how it's enabled
[10:14] <Battlestar> i made it
[10:14] <ompaul>  inet addr:192.168.0.3  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[10:14] <Battlestar> but for some reason it says i'm not
[10:14] <bamm`laptop> check gnomes keyboard shortcuts.. /uar/bin/gnome-keybinding-properties
[10:14] <NickZA> setup with automatx
[10:14] <ompaul> that would be wrong :-) did not fix the bcast
[10:14] <ompaul> !automatix
[10:14] <NickZA> setup with automatix
[10:14] <ubotu> I heard automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[10:14] <fek> while there be soon an update available of xorg, wich fixes my problem with the resolution problem of 1600x1200@60?
[10:14] <theine> can you paste the output of "ls -l /path/to/folder" (one line)?
[10:14] <fek> s/while/will
[10:14] <ompaul> have a look at #easyubuntu
[10:15] <NickZA> gt ok lemme check
[10:15] <tolstoy> sethk: the thing is, my current setup works fine on my other laptop, and on this one using fedora core 4.
[10:15] <Battlestar> if i go to properties -> permissions it says i am not the owner, so i can't change permissions
[10:15] <ompaul> !easyubuntu
[10:15] <ubotu> rumour has it, easyubuntu is a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntu
[10:15] <sethk> tolstoy, is it possible that one is set to get DNS from DHCP and the other is not?
[10:15] <theine> Battlestar, do you know how to work the command line?
[10:15] <yookoala> Hello
[10:15] <Battlestar> if i can get to it
[10:15] <Battlestar> how do i open the terminal again?
[10:15] <robotgeek> NickZA: would be glad to help you in there
[10:16] <theine> Battlestar, start a terminal, it's somewhere in the application menu
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[10:16] <tolstoy> sethk: nope.  they all get DNS from the router.  /etc/resolv.conf is 192.168.0.1.  and even IP pings don't work.  I think there's a funky thing in the debian kernel.
[10:16] <Battlestar> ok started terminal
[10:16] <tolstoy> sethk: fedora worked, debian, breezy, dapper: no go.
[10:16] <sethk> tolstoy, it does sound weird
[10:16] <sethk> tolstoy, but why doesn't everyone else see it?
[10:17] <theine> Battlestar, ok, now "ls -l /path/to/folder"
[10:17] <sethk> tolstoy, I would have to see the output of ifconfig -a, and route -n
[10:17] <NickZA> how do I access gnome-keybinding-properties, its an executable ?
[10:17] <bamm`laptop> type: /usr/bin/gnome-keybinding/properties in terminal
[10:17] <sethk> tolstoy, and traceroute 192.168.1.1  might be interesting
[10:17] <bamm`laptop> oops
[10:17] <NickZA> newbieish
[10:17] <bamm`laptop> -
[10:17] <tolstoy> sethk: route -n looks the same no matter what I do. ;)  except different eths.
[10:17] <bamm`laptop> not /
[10:17] <bamm`laptop> heh
[10:18] <sethk> tolstoy, has to be something different
[10:18] <robotgeek> NickZA: yes, via gconftool, or System -> Configuratio Editor
[10:18] <bamm`laptop> don't even need the path :P
[10:18] <sethk> tolstoy, although I'm not coming up with anything useful at the moment
[10:18] <bamm`laptop> Or you can do that ;] 
[10:18] <theine> Battlestar, so "ls -l /home/nick/My\ Documents/Shared\ Docs/"
[10:18] <sudharsh> does prozgui work for any1 here
[10:18] <NickZA> ok config editor is easier, that I can find at least
[10:18] <bamm`laptop> lol :D
[10:19] <tolstoy> sethk: will you be here tomorrow night?  alas, i'm on said laptop and testing would knock me out of here.
[10:19] <Battlestar> what do i replace spaces with in my folder names if they have spaces in them
[10:19] <Battlestar> as it is it interprets them as seperate folders
[10:19] <bamm`laptop> backslash
[10:19] <sudharsh> u should use \
[10:19] <theine> Battlestar, look what I posted, you need to prefix spaces with a backslash
[10:19] <sethk> tolstoy, most likely, yes
[10:19] <tolstoy> sethk: I'll post a bugzilla soonish, too.
[10:19] <bamm`laptop> My Programs = My\ Programs
[10:19] <bamm`laptop> etc
[10:20] <ompaul> tolstoy, do me a favour I know this is not what you would normally want do to but :-) humour me on this >> System - Administration - Networking << and see how far you get
[10:20] <sethk> tolstoy, ok
[10:20] <tolstoy> ompaul: okay.
[10:20] <NickZA> is there more than one keybindings entry in config editor ?
[10:20] <Battlestar> hmmm i'm confused now. What's the path to the home folder? it says there is no such folder so i'm guessing it's not on the top level of the filesystem tree?
[10:20] <bamm`laptop> sethk dns and stuff set right?
[10:20] <tolstoy> ompaul: should I kill network-manager?
[10:21] <theine> Battlestar, is the folder you want to share below your home directory?
[10:21] <sudharsh> Battlestar do a cd ~
[10:21] <sethk> bamm`laptop, ?  did you mean that for me?
[10:21] <ompaul> tolstoy, should not influence it but lets say yeah
[10:21] <bamm`laptop> Spose ;] 
[10:21] <theine> sudharsh, or just cd...
[10:22] <tolstoy> ompaul: it's gone.  eth1 is configured, eth0 isn't (I just re-installed)
[10:22] <robotgeek> NickZA: you set a keybinding command, and a keybinding shortcut, IIRC
[10:22] <Battlestar> ok what exactly is cd supposed to do
[10:22] <theine> Battlestar, change directory
[10:22] <sudharsh> change directory
[10:23] <Bamm`laptop> Lame inet
[10:23] <NickZA> ok heres the trick, i didnt set the binding, it was set when I used automatix so im a bit lost as to where it is configured
[10:23] <Battlestar> if i put in "cd home" it just says there is no such directory
[10:23] <ompaul> tolstoy, is the router handing out enough ips?
[10:23] <theine> Battlestar, ~ refers to your home directory
[10:23] <sudharsh> try $HOME
[10:23] <Madpilot> Battlestar: "cd" works - no arguements
[10:23] <Madpilot> !cli
[10:23] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[10:24] <sudharsh> $HOME is the variable
[10:24] <Battlestar> hey dir works lol
[10:24] <tolstoy> ompaul: yeap.  a hundred of 'em.  (remember this works fine on other laptops)
[10:24] <Battlestar> another windows command, yay
[10:24] <Bamm`laptop> haha
[10:24] <theine> Battlestar, suppose you are in your home directory, do you know the path to the folder you want to share from there?
[10:24] <ompaul> tolstoy, sorry are you doing wireless?
[10:24] <odat> hi everyone
[10:24] <robotgeek> NickZA: okay, gimme a moment
[10:24] <Madpilot> Battlestar: the post that the bot made a few lines up has good URLs for basic commands
[10:24] <theine> Battlestar, dir is actually an alias to ls
[10:25] <Battlestar> lol
[10:25] <levander> Battlestar: um, using 'dir' on UNIX probably isn't such a good practise to get into, i'd learn the 'ls' command, it's the same thing
[10:25] <tolstoy> ompaul: yeap.
[10:25] <Battlestar> ok well i ran ls, and it came up with "total 0"
[10:25] <ompaul> !tell tolstoy about ndiswrapper
[10:25] <Madpilot> ls uses colours; dir doesn't but displays otherwise identical info...
[10:25] <sudharsh> ubotu is a bot :O
[10:25] <ubotu> sudharsh: Bugger all, i dunno
[10:25] <Battlestar> which would figure since there's no files in the directory
[10:25] <Madpilot> Battlestar: that a lower case L
[10:25] <levander> Battlestar: yeah
[10:25] <ompaul> sudharsh, easier to do this
[10:25] <robotgeek> NickZA: apps/metacity/global_keybindings/run_command_9 , /apps/metacity/keybinding_commands/command_9
[10:25] <ompaul> ubotu
[10:25] <NickZA> robotgeek, ok this is what I found, searched for "keybindings' under config editor and found -> run_command_9 (value) <control><alt>Del is that it ?
[10:26] <ompaul> !ubotu
[10:26] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[10:26] <sudharsh> no wonder ubotu was monotonous
[10:26] <theine> Battlestar, right, of course, so what's the whole path to that folder now?
[10:26] <tolstoy> ompaul: couldn't get ndiswrapper to work: some dll symbol error.  ah well! ;)
[10:26] <levander> Battlestar: you have no idea how much i had to learn about UNIX to get Linux installed the first time I installed it, ubuntu has spoiled you **way** too much.  I can't imagine getting Linux installed without knowing ls.
[10:26] <theine> Battlestar, just paste the command that yielded "total 0"
[10:26] <NickZA> so can I just delete that entry ?
[10:26] <levander> Battlestar: you're really going to have to read some stuff if you want to be any kind of productive
[10:26] <robotgeek> NickZA: yes
[10:26] <Battlestar> My\ Documents/Shared\ Docs/
[10:27] <shirish> hi all
[10:27] <theine> levander, I don't think that's actually true anymore...
[10:27] <theine> Battlestar, ok, do " ls -l ~/My\ Documents"
[10:27] <NickZA> haha ! it works, thanks robotgeek
[10:27] <tolstoy> ompaul: sethk: I'll post a bugzilla issue about this and see if it bears fruit.  I'm sure the maintainers will say, "the driver loads, it's not out prob," but, well, it should at least be documented.
[10:27] <levander> theine: you're kidding me, it's acceptable not to know the 'ls' command now?  I can't imagine anything more ignorant about UNIX.
[10:27] <Madpilot> sudharsh: the bot's not much for conversation :P
[10:27] <Battlestar> levander: lol yea i know, i can get around the user interface ok but itgets messy whenever i start using console. Why doesn't someone just tell me how to change it so i am the owner without using the console
[10:28] <levander> Battlestar: owner of what?
[10:28] <sethk> levander, ls?  I don't know, you have to press two different keys ...
[10:28] <theine> levander, well, you can actually use openoffice, gimp, totem, ... without knowing ls...
[10:28] <jackoo> battlestar,use synaptic package manager
[10:28] <robotgeek> NickZA: np
[10:28] <sethk> levander, and you have to press the l first
[10:28] <sethk> levander, kind of tough  :)
[10:28] <ompaul> tolstoy, use launchpad if you want ubuntu to look at it
[10:28] <theine> Battlestar, did you issue the command I suggested?
[10:29] <levander> theine: if that's all you want to do, why not use windows?
[10:29] <Battlestar> levander: a folder i created. It has locked down the folder for some reaosn and won't let me modify privelages
[10:29] <theine> levander, because it blows?
[10:29] <levander> theine: windows is designed for people who don't want to know anything
[10:29] <tolstoy> launchpad?  ah, okay.  they've moved from bugzilla?  i'll follow the directions
[10:29] <odat> anyone using the nuvola  theme?
[10:29] <Battlestar> theine: yes did the command, do you want me to tell you what the permissions for the folder came up as?
[10:29] <theine> Battlestar, please...
[10:29] <levander> theine: excellent analysis, now if you could just cure world hunger
[10:29] <levander> Battlestar: try right clicking on the folder in nautilus
[10:30] <theine> levander, what?
[10:30] <Bamm`laptop> i have an idea
[10:30] <Bamm`laptop> alias dir='echo "its ls"'
[10:30] <Bamm`laptop> :D
[10:30] <Hentai^XP> I say windows desgined so that people aren't forced to learn anything levander
[10:30] <sethk> Bamm`laptop, fedora and red hat give you dir as an alias to ls
[10:30] <dibblego> I say windows isn't designed
[10:30] <Bamm`laptop> Bad habit imo
[10:30] <Bamm`laptop> ;] 
[10:30] <levander> Bamm`laptop: i'd change the message to be a link to a tutorial on basic commands for the shell
[10:30] <Battlestar> levander: i'm not that thick; tried that but i just told u what it told me: not owner so i can't modify permissions
[10:31] <Madpilot> Bamm`laptop: alias dir='echo "You're Not In Windows Anymore, Toto!'
[10:31] <Bamm`laptop> lol
[10:31] <theine> levander, you know I'm not saying anything against your geeky attitude towards Linux, but I don't think it's wrong if the Linux community also targets people that don't want to use the command line...
[10:31] <levander> Bamm`laptop: something like, "you really need to read this: http://help.com/learn"
[10:31] <odat> Madpilot, sup
[10:31] <Battlestar> thine: permissions for Shared Docs are drwxr-xr--
[10:31] <Madpilot> hi odat
[10:31] <sethk> actually, dir is a built in for several shells, so it frequently works even without an alias
[10:31] <levander> Battlestar: 'sudo chown $USER <file name>'
[10:31] <theine> Battlestar, right, now do "chmod +w ~/My\ Documents"
[10:31] <adrian15> Is there any ubuntu boot loader developer round here ?
[10:31] <levander> Battlestar: replace <file name> with the name of the file
[10:31] <odat> maddler, not much just hangin out    u?
[10:32] <nbound> whats the command to reconfigure x?
[10:32] <theine> Battlestar, and then paste the output of " ls -l ~/My\ Documents" again
[10:32] <odat> Madpilot, not much just hangin out   u?
[10:32] <lapducky> I'll get you, Madpilot; and your little dog too!
[10:32] <Madpilot> lapducky: the sheep will keep you too busy! :P
[10:33] <Battlestar> theine; i might eb wrong here but won't that command change the permissions for all folders under my documents?
[10:33] <shirish> does anybody know how can I get in touch with an editor who has edited a page in wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:33] <theine> Battlestar, damn, I meant "chmod +w ~/My\ Documents/Shared\ Docs"
[10:33] <shirish> http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:33] <nbound> anyone know the command to reconfig x?
[10:33] <Madpilot> shirish: which page? the editing history is saved for all pages...
[10:33] <hawking> I don't have bluetooth or any printing service and I don't want to start them at startup how can i do that?
[10:33] <levander> theine: but what would a user gain by using linux over windows if he doesn't even want to knwo simple stuff like 'ls'?  I just don't see any advantages for those users.
[10:34] <Battlestar> theine: operation not permitted
[10:34] <theine> Battlestar, then "sudo chmod +w ~/My\ Documents/Shared\ Docs"
[10:34] <Bamm`laptop> sudo
[10:34] <Battlestar> i'm guessing that means what the UI already told me, i..e. "not owner"
[10:34] <theine> Battlestar, and type in your password
[10:34] <odat> Madpilot, what theme do you use?
[10:34] <shirish> Madpilot : the page in question is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptMoveHowto & the editor is AndrewZajac2 who's done the major work
[10:35] <Madpilot> odat: currently the stock Ubuntu Human one
[10:35] <Battlestar> ok that may have done something
[10:35] <theine> levander, they don't have to pay for their operating system and they don't get infected with malware all the time...
[10:35] <shirish> I wanted to connect with him so that I can know some stuff
[10:35] <Battlestar> theine: what next?
[10:35] <robotgeek> Madpilot: easier for the screenshots, eh?
[10:35] <Madpilot> shirish: AndrewZajac is "azz" on the ubuntuforums
[10:35] <odat> Madpilot, ahhh ok   just wondering   i use nuvola
[10:35] <theine> levander, two name just two reasons...
[10:35] <lapducky> Madpilot: Ahgghghhhh...  I'm molting!
[10:35] <Madpilot> robotgeek: yeah
[10:35] <shirish> now how did you know that?
[10:35] <theine> Battlestar, paste the output of "ls -l ~/My\ Documents" again
[10:35] <shirish> Madpilot: how did you know that?
[10:35] <Bamm`laptop> oo i got it i got it
[10:36] <Bamm`laptop> Community is better
[10:36] <Bamm`laptop> 8)
[10:36] <Battlestar> theine: i did ls again, says that permissions are still exactly the same
[10:36] <nbound> can someone please tell me the command to reconfigure x
[10:36] <Madpilot> shirish: crystal ball :P
[10:36] <sudharsh> !gdm
[10:36] <ubotu> Not a clue, sudharsh
[10:36] <shirish> LOL
[10:36] <levander> theine: i never get infected with malware on XP, and the $80 for a dumbed down operating system you don't have to know a single thing to use is money well spent for people like that
[10:36] <lee> aloha
[10:36] <odat> nbound, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:37] <Madpilot> shirish: actually, I happen to know that from meeting him in various forums - IRC, the forums, the wiki, etc
[10:37] <robotgeek> nbound, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:37] <theine> Battlestar, ok, then try "sudo chmod go+w ~/My\ Documents/Shared\ Docs"
[10:37] <nbound> thx both of you's
[10:37] <sudharsh> !sudo
[10:37] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:37] <lee> how do you tell what version of gcc was used to compile your kernel?  the nvidia installer is complaining about differences but doesn't say what versions are involved
[10:37] <Battlestar> ok permissions changed
[10:38] <robotgeek> lee: cat /proc/version
[10:38] <theine> levander, your entitled to your opinion but do accept that many people (at least in here) don't share it...
[10:38] <lee> aww damnit, I was looking in /proc/sys/kernel =)
[10:38] <theine> Battlestar, congratulations
[10:38] <lee> thanks =)
[10:38] <levander> theine: cool, i was just asking why, i wasn't trying to make you agree
[10:38] <Battlestar> theine: thanks for the help, i'll just verify that it's working now
[10:39] <sudharsh> !gpg
[10:39] <ubotu> I heard gpg is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GPGKey or http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/8746
[10:39] <shirish> Madpilot: I tried to get a profile of Azz but failed to do, can you help me?
[10:39] <Psi-Jack> ALRIGHTY! I got my printer to work. Just can't find out what or where to put it's intended testpage at. heh
[10:39] <sudharsh> !sudharsh
[10:39] <ubotu> sudharsh: Are you on ritalin?
[10:39] <theine> levander, I was just opposed to your suggestion to a newbie to Linux to first dig up on "ls" before doing anything else...
[10:39] <Madpilot> shirish: just a second
[10:40] <MachineScrew> !MachineScrew
[10:40] <ubotu> MachineScrew: I don't know
[10:40] <levander> theine: don't know what you mean by "dig up", i suggested he read a tutorial on a shell.  Something that should take max, an hour.
[10:41] <sudharsh> oh boy this is fun
[10:41] <theine> levander, I know that it's not particularily hard but some people seem to be scared by the command line and I don't see a reason to scare them away
[10:41] <Madpilot> !botabuse
[10:41] <ubotu> You can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.
[10:42] <sudharsh> lol
[10:42] <hawking> I don't have bluetooth or any printing service and I don't want to start them at startup how can i do that?
[10:43] <shiris1> Madpilot: were I able to get any info about "azz"
[10:43] <adrian15> well.. i want to modify https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show to add the method of using Super Grub Disk (which restores grub on mbr automatically) but I don't know if adding it as the first option or as an alternate option. Is there any wiki leader than can guide me... which is the best option ?
[10:43] <Madpilot> shiris1: http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=844
[10:43] <levander> theine: but, for people who are going to be scared of the shell, what's the point of them using linux?  Linux is a lot more flexible and complicated to configure.  Why wouldn't they just use Windows?
[10:44] <mae> hi  - what is a commandline flac player?
[10:44] <bnD> can anyone help me out? if i install in any method other than the default i end up with a 1024x798 resolution tho my monitor is supposed to be 1440x900 .. its set to 1440x900 in xorg.conf
[10:44] <theine> levander, it's not necessarily complicated to configure. Ubuntu worked right out of the box on my laptop without configuring anything
[10:44] <levander> bnD: is 1440x900 available in System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution?
[10:44] <sudharsh> levander coz winblow$ is too weak..
[10:45] <levander> theine: yeah, the intially install process is easy, but eventually you get an error message, or want to change something
[10:45] <theine> levander, also, Windows XP is just ugly
[10:45] <shiris1> Madpilot: thanks, would connect him & give u'r name as a reference. Hopefully the wiki becomes more clear because of our interaction or something
[10:45] <lapducky> Has mplayer been removed from the Breezy repositories?
[10:45] <JoeBlow> anyone had any luck with quake 2 native install?
[10:45] <crimsun> lapducky: multiverse.
[10:45] <theine> levander, well that's true for Windows as well
[10:45] <JoeBlow> lapducky, it hasnt
[10:45] <NickZA> how do I "alt-tab" from a fullscreen vnc session ?
[10:45] <levander> theine: no, you uninstall and reinstall to fix things in Windows, you don't have to know anything
[10:46] <Madpilot> shiris1: you can also join the ubuntu-doc mailing list if you've got questions or contributions
[10:46] <theine> levander, and after a while your operating system is so fucked up that you can barely use it anymore...
[10:46] <Bamm`laptop> Okay guys this argument is centuries old, I would suggest a simple google query along the lines of "why linux over windows" etc :P
[10:46] <lapducky> crimsun, I've got Multiverse, (and Universe) and none of the mplayer packages are showing up in apt-cache after I do apt-get update.
[10:46] <JoeBlow> its the wierdest things when i install quake 2, from the launcher i push start and it lets me play, but when i go to the icon to run it, it opens the window,and freezes before anything happens
[10:46] <theine> levander, I've been there...
[10:46] <levander> theine: windows used to be like that, xp is a lot more stable, i've been running the same xp install for 2.5 years, no problems
[10:47] <Bamm`laptop> mplayer-386 - The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux
[10:47] <Bamm`laptop> mplayer-586 - The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux
[10:47] <Bamm`laptop> SHowing up for me lap
[10:47] <theine> levander, I was refering to XP
[10:47] <lapducky> could it be my local repository?
[10:47] <ompaul> take the XP / GNU/Linux conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic this is supposed to be a help channel you can talk all you want
[10:47] <theine> levander, anyway, this is not the right place for a Linux/Windows flamewar...
[10:48] <lapducky> edited for Canadian copyright laws or something?
[10:48] <adrian15> ompaul: which others ubuntu channel are they, are they channels for developers ?
[10:48] <ompaul> adrian15, yes but they do not do support in those channels
[10:48] <odat> Bamm`laptop, trying to send you my sources.list
[10:48] <ompaul> they will rightly point you here
[10:49] <Madpilot> lapducky: I run the .ca archives as well, and I've got a about a dozen mplayer packages listed - use Synpatic's search
[10:49] <Battlestar> theine: ok problem solved for permissions, my windows computer can now see my linux laptop. Next problem: it's asking me to log in, so what login do i use; i tried the one i'm currently logged in on on both computers but neither work
[10:49] <adrian15> ompaul: I just want to talk with some developers that treat with grub and boot loaders and wiki... developers channel name is.... ?
[10:49] <CarinArr> hey.. i have a question regarding nvidia drivers.. I need the latest driver for a software i'm using so I installed the ones from nvidia's website.. All is well until I reboot.. then for whatever reason I get segmentation faults trying to run nvidia-settings and whatever else. If I reinstall the drivers they work perfectly until the next time I reboot.. does anyone know what the problem might be?
[10:49] <shiris1> Madpilot: have done the same, would sign off now as things to do
[10:49] <theine> Battlestar, I'm really no samba expert (never used it) so I suggest you ask somebody else in this case
[10:49] <Bamm`laptop> odat, back
[10:49] <Bamm`laptop> send again
[10:49] <Bamm`laptop> was getting grub
[10:49] <Bamm`laptop> :] 
[10:49] <Bamm`laptop> (food, not loader)
[10:49] <Bamm`laptop> :D
[10:50] <Bamm`laptop> actually won't work, paste it
[10:50] <Bamm`laptop> not here
[10:50] <Battlestar> theine: oh ok lol, it's asking me the same thing trying to access files the other way too, so this does leave me in a bit of a pickle
[10:50] <Bamm`laptop>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:50] <ompaul> two main dev places are #ubuntu-motu and #ubuntu-devel - however if you ask for help there they will tell you to come here they develop stuff and mostly it is about what packages are fixed or sorted and stuff
[10:50] <ompaul> !tell Bamm`laptop about enter
[10:50] <ompaul> Bamm`laptop, can you look at that msg from the bot please
[10:50] <JoeBlow> !enter
[10:50] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[10:51] <JoeBlow> !tekk JoeBloe about enter
[10:51] <ubotu> JoeBlow: Bugger all, i dunno
[10:51] <ompaul> JoeBlow, you could ask the bot yourself /msg ubotu enter and it will tell you
[10:51] <Bamm`laptop> Last moment thoughts tend to popup on me, read above paste it @ the site
[10:51] <theine> Battlestar, I actually thought it's a bit strange to be required to use "sudo" for sharing a folder below your own home directory...
[10:51] <theine> Battlestar, did you look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba ?
[10:51] <lapducky> Madpilot, of course I've already searched several times -- I'm telling you that it is NOT THERE (for me at least) -- only the mozilla-mplayer plugin which depends on those other packages.  Could it be because I installed from a slightly corrupted Breezy DVD?  I *have* seen the odd GPG signature error when refreshing the package cache.
[10:51] <adrian15> ompaul: masters of the universe :) thank you
[10:52] <JoeBlow> lapducky, u dont have multiverse enabled
[10:52] <Bamm`laptop> ompaul, thanks and sorry :] 
[10:52] <ompaul> Bamm`laptop, np
[10:52] <Madpilot> lapducky: no idea - run Reload in Synaptic, and double check your sources.list
[10:52] <odat> Bamm`laptop, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6946
[10:52] <Battlestar> theine: no not really i just wanted to share a folder and it asked me to install samba/NFS. so i installed them and shared my folder. I just knocked out the firewall on my windows PC for the moment too so that probably helped
[10:52] <JoeBlow> lapducky, u have to add the line multiverse next universe, on al of the Community Maintained (universe) repositories
[10:52] <JoeBlow> lapducky, u have to add the line multiverse next to universe, on al of the Community Maintained (universe) repositories
[10:52] <gallardo> me cajo na conecha
[10:53] <Battlestar> theine: and i just solved my own problem. I entered no user name or password and it gave me full access
[10:53] <JoeBlow> !es
[10:53] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:53] <theine> Battlestar, great
[10:53] <Battlestar> theine: thanks for all your help anyway, i'm off
[10:53] <theine> Battlestar, welcome
[10:53] <JoeBlow> lapducky, u find it?
[10:54] <misieq_> hi there! anyone installed ubuntu on mac?
[10:54] <JoeBlow> sorry, cant afford a mac
[10:54] <misieq_> i can't install yaboot bootloader
[10:54] <Bamm`laptop> Second odat checking
[10:54] <Bamm`laptop> Im using your repos and it's in there
[10:55] <yookoala> hello
[10:55] <odat> JoeBlow, want a mac?  use freebsd and gnome with a mac os x theme   basically the same thing :)
[10:55] <yookoala> I have some question on sound system on ubuntu and generally linux
[10:55] <robotgeek> misieq_: what do you need help with?
[10:55] <Bamm`laptop> When I ran fbsd w/ gnome it wasn't that great :[
[10:55] <JoeBlow> odat, I want a pc running ubuntu
[10:55] <robotgeek> misieq_: is it an older mac (old world?)
[10:56] <yookoala> as far as I know, there are many sound framework on linux
[10:56] <JoeBlow> odat, but i do want mac and cheese, but fucking germany doesnt have it
[10:56] <odat> JoeBlow, it was a joke    that is basically what mac os x is     sorta kinda lol
[10:56] <JoeBlow> odat, chedder doesnt exist here
[10:56] <JoeBlow> odat, Ive never even touched a modern mac
[10:56] <yookoala> We have ALSA, OSS.
[10:56] <Bamm`laptop> odat, you sure nmplayer isn't there? your repos worked fine for me
[10:56] <odat> Bamm`laptop, mplayer is there that is why i gave you the repos
[10:56] <misieq_> i think the problem is with apt system - on tty3 (log) it tells "couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-powerpc_Packages) - stat (2 no such file or directroy)"
[10:57] <yookoala> How can I choose to use which?
[10:57] <misieq_> no, it's powerpcg4 with mirrored drive doors dual 1ghz
[10:57] <yookoala> (1) How can I choose to use which?
[10:57] <robotgeek> misieq_: oh okay, are j\you just installing?
[10:57] <Bamm`laptop> OH!, lapducky wanted it haha
[10:57] <sudharsh> yookoala: GOTO multimedia system selector
[10:57] <misieq_> yes
[10:57] <yookoala> (2) How can I disable gstreamer and just use OSS?
[10:57] <sudharsh> in preferences
[10:58] <yookoala> thanks sudharsh
[10:58] <sudharsh> no problem
[10:58] <odat> yookoala, you need gstreamer  besides gstreamer is not a replacement for oss or alsa
[10:58] <yookoala> seems my OSS got some problem since I installed gstreamer
[10:58] <robotgeek> misieq_: is it a ubuntu shipit cd, or one you burnt yourself?
[10:58] <misieq_> shipit 5.04 for ppc
[10:58] <sudharsh> i dont think so
[10:58] <sudharsh> yookoala: whatkinda prob do u hav
[10:59] <lapducky> grrr....,
[10:59] <odat> Bamm`laptop, oh lol oops
[10:59] <yookoala> odat, I know a bit of that. Actually my sound recording fails ever sinces I installed "gstreamer0.8-plugins"
[10:59] <lapducky> *#^$ing apt must be broken!!
[10:59] <robotgeek> misieq_: did it detect your internet card?
[10:59] <misieq_> yes
[10:59] <sudharsh> lapducky what happended
[11:00] <yookoala> sudharsh, Actually my sound recording fails ever sinces I installed "gstreamer0.8-plugins"
[11:00] <misieq_> brb
[11:00] <robotgeek> misieq_: kk
[11:00] <odat> yookoala, well is alsa doesn't work for you like it doesn't on some of my other machines i always use esd over oss  might wanna try that
[11:01] <misieq_> i'm back. network card is up and running, i can download things
[11:01] <yookoala> odat, I tried to set ALSA as default but seems it didn't fixed my Gnome Recorder nor my Skype
[11:01] <yookoala> they worked well before I installed gstreamer08.-plugins
[11:01] <Sigu> anyone know how to not show whats in your home directory using gnome, when youre looking at the desktop?
[11:02] <odat> Sigu, you mean hidden file?
[11:02] <Sigu> hmm maybe thats it
[11:02] <Sigu> nope
[11:02] <lapducky> sudharsh, its not getting packages from repositories that EVERYONE ELSE can see.
[11:02] <fretbuzz> will ubuntu install and run on my toshiba satellite p30 laptop ?
[11:02] <odat> fretbuzz, what are the specs of that machine?
[11:02] <lapducky> fretbuzz, how much RAM have you got?
[11:03] <fretbuzz> one sec
[11:03] <sudharsh> lapducky tried apt-get update?
[11:03] <ray_> really new at this linux stuff.........anyone help with installing a downloaded .package?
[11:03] <lapducky> Heh, I just wiped my sources.list cleans and started over -- problem solved!
[11:04] <sudharsh> hehe
[11:04] <yookoala> odat, I've got your source.list. Is there anything special I can use?
[11:04] <misieq_> ray_, dpkg -i package
[11:04] <sudharsh> guyz,,now with which software can i maintain a packages documentation
[11:04] <sudharsh> kinda like doxygen if i m correct
[11:04] <ray_> From Terminal?
[11:04] <odat> yookoala, i would just replace you list with that one
[11:04] <misieq_> ray_, yes. and as root
[11:05] <ray_> cheers :o)
[11:05] <sudharsh> .package is not a debian package
[11:05] <zdux0012> I have a question, I got an error message using "make",         "/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop."
[11:05] <misieq_> ray, "sudo dpkg -i package" (no qupotes)
[11:05] <sudharsh> isnt it a autopackage stuff
[11:05] <yookoala> odat, thanks for that. ^^ I'll try it
[11:05] <lapducky> I think I had a corrupted local cache.
[11:05] <odat> yookoala, np
[11:05] <sudharsh> ray_ what does the file end with
[11:05] <ray_> it doesn't seem to be auto package
[11:06] <sudharsh> .deb?
[11:06] <misieq_> zdux, are you sure you have kernel headers installed?
[11:06] <ray_> ends with ".package"
[11:06] <sudharsh> thats an autopackage
[11:06] <sudharsh> execute that in termina;
[11:06] <ray_> corrupt d/load??
[11:06] <zdux0012> misieq: I just preformed apt-get install linux-headers-386
[11:06] <sudharsh> then redownload
[11:06] <ray_> y.....thanks
[11:07] <zdux0012> misieq_: It seemed to install correctly
[11:07] <sudharsh> alright try 'sudo sh ./<name.package>
[11:07] <ray_> ok
[11:07] <misieq_> zdux, dunno, try to install some other kernel-connected packages..
[11:08] <misieq_> zdux and be sure to install 2.6.12-9-386 kernel!
[11:08] <fretbuzz> Mobile Intel Pentium 4 Processor 532 supporting Hyper-Threading Technology (3.06 GHz, 533MHz FSB, L1 Cache 12KB/8KB, L2 Cache 1MB)
[11:08] <yookoala> still want to ask: Does anyone know how to disable gstreamer?
[11:08] <misieq_> anyone has some experience with yaboot and macintosh?
[11:09] <odat> fretbuzz, then yes
[11:09] <joevi> help me!! my soundcard dosn't work!!
[11:10] <odat> yookoala, does your recording program have the option to choose how its going to record the audio?
[11:11] <_Rappy_> anyone got an obvious solution for getting sound on videos from video.google.com? Apps like xmms and totem plays like a charm...
[11:11] <zdux0012> misieq: I seem to have 2.6.12-10-386  not 2.6.12-9-386,,, is this wrong?
[11:11] <jouni__m> joevi give the data of soundcard manufacturer and type. is it pci or isa or integrated?
[11:12] <fretbuzz> odat it will install without to many problems i hope?
[11:12] <fretbuzz> like no problem with ATI mobility radeion video card
[11:12] <odat> fretbuzz, gonna have it connected to the internet?  preferably a cable connection or something
[11:12] <CarinArr> zdux0012, that probably means you're running the -9 kernel but have installed the -10 headers
[11:12] <fretbuzz> wireless i hope
[11:13] <misieq_> zdux, i'd think so. you may try doing symlink "2.6.12-10-386" to point to "2.6.12-10-386", but be careful
[11:13] <fretbuzz> atheros wireless adapter
[11:13] <odat> fretbuzz, wireless is still tough with linux
[11:13] <fretbuzz> yeah i am learning that
[11:13] <robotgeek> fretbuzz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[11:13] <CarinArr> zdux0012, just install linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386
[11:13] <odat> fretbuzz, doable but a little tough although ubuntu might get it in the first shot
[11:13] <zdux0012> sorry I am a newbie,
[11:14] <robotgeek> fretbuzz: check that list, either madwifi/ndiswrapper should work for you. check that list
[11:14] <fretbuzz> i got mu wireless to work on fedora core 4 with a few hours work and some tweaking
[11:14] <robotgeek> fretbuzz: so you know if you used the madwifi drivers?
[11:14] <odat> fretbuzz, than your good to go   ubuntu will be much easier
[11:14] <fretbuzz> i have used madwifi in fedora core 4 it went ok and it works
[11:15] <fretbuzz> oh odat your a man after my own heart i love to hear that
[11:15] <CarinArr> zdux0012, basically you get the error because there is a version mismatch between your kernel and the header files for the kernel.. it's no big deal, there isn't a problem with your system or anything, you just need to install the 2.6.12-9 linux headers.. if you go to synaptic and search for "linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386" and install the one that comes up
[11:15] <odat> fretbuzz, seriously you might get lucky when installing ubuntu it might do it for you
[11:16] <zdux0012> should I delete the existing headers?
[11:16] <CarinArr> zdux0012, well.. they're not interfering so you can just leave them if you want
[11:16] <odat> fretbuzz, i tried many distros and i always came straight back to ubuntu and realized eventually that ubuntu is amazing plain and simple
[11:16] <odat> and my heart tells me gnome is too :)
[11:17] <zdux0012> CarinArr: thanks I did a apt-get install linux-headers...
[11:17] <robotgeek> zdux0012: install "linux-headers-386" if your kernel is 386
[11:17] <fretbuzz> Card: Atheros AR5001X+ 54mbps
[11:17] <fretbuzz>     * Chipset: Atheros
[11:17] <fretbuzz>     * pciid: ?
[11:17] <fretbuzz>     * Driver: ?
[11:17] <fretbuzz>     * Other: Ndiswrapper 0.9. Works!!! Dmesg shows RTS, Powermode and fragmentation failures but it still works!!!
[11:18] <robotgeek> fretbuzz: no pasting here
[11:18] <zdux0012> robotgeek: I am not sure if my kernel is 386,, does this refer to the chipset? I am using a pentium so 386 is right right?
[11:18] <fretbuzz> it says it supports atheros adapters
[11:18] <fretbuzz> oh sorry
[11:18] <robotgeek> zdux0012: uname -a
[11:18] <misieq_> robotgeek, what about yaboot? any idea?
[11:18] <fretbuzz> please forgive
[11:18] <robotgeek> fretbuzz: no prob
[11:19] <robotgeek> misieq_: this is the installation stage, and it fails here?
[11:19] <zdux0012> robotgeek: thanks, it is version 9 and a 386
[11:19] <robotgeek> zdux0012: then install linux-headers-386
[11:20] <robotgeek> misieq_: can you try it with a 5.10 cd, ppc support is much better
[11:20] <zdux0012> robotgeek: I did this before,, the text after installation mentioned kernel-headers ... 10
[11:20] <misieq_> robotgeek, i have installation menu, and i'm past through partitioning, setting up users, installing base system and configuring apt
[11:20] <fretbuzz> thats all i want something plain not flashy like kanotix and simple not complicated like fedora but something with powerful command line
[11:20] <misieq_> robotgeek. it fails on "Install yaboot on a hard disk"
[11:21] <odat> i really have to stop harrassing the kde guys
[11:21] <zdux0012> CarinArr, robotgeek:  I think I'm good for now,, thanks
[11:21] <CarinArr> robotgeek, out of interest, if he has the 10 kernel installed as well, which headers will linux-headers-386 install?
[11:21] <robotgeek> misieq_: hmm, totally weird.
[11:21] <odat> geez i'm a goof sometimes
[11:21] <odat> sheesh
[11:21] <apokryphos> fretbuzz: do not paste in here :)
[11:21] <fretbuzz> i will be using it for writting software apps with python java perl and c++
[11:21] <apokryphos> oop, repetition; just saw note from robotgeek 8)
[11:22] <robotgeek> CarinArr: it's a metapackage, the next time it upgrades the kernel, it will install the headers as well
[11:22] <misieq_> robotgeek, can i order new shipit cd for me for same address?
[11:22] <fretbuzz> will ubuntu install right over fedora?
[11:22] <CarinArr> robotgeek, yeah but what i mean is its description says it installs the latest kernel headers available.. so if he hasn't upgraded his kernel yet (given -10 is available) will it install the -9 ones?
[11:22] <robotgeek> CarinArr: you can have all the versions installed at once (headers), one matching your current kernel will be used
[11:22] <odat> fretbuzz, will you be using gnome ?
[11:23] <CarinArr> robotgeek, yeah i know, but i'm wondering how he came to have the -10 headers installed when he was running the -9 kernel
[11:23] <fretbuzz> gnome yes at times but not alot
[11:23] <odat> fretbuzz, if you tell it to erase and use the entire disk
[11:23] <robotgeek> CarinArr: he probably has not rebooted or something
[11:23] <zdux0012> btw,, can I stop the computer beep when I press backspace in the terminal?
[11:23] <odat> fretbuzz, what is you desktop of choice?
[11:23] <robotgeek> zdux0012: also install linux-image-386
[11:24] <fretbuzz> i have a dual boot system with winxp and fedora all i want is to right on the fedora partition
[11:24] <CarinArr> oh yeah.. that's a point
[11:24] <fretbuzz> kde
[11:24] <robotgeek> zdux0012: yes, alsamixer in a console, and i think it's the last option.
[11:24] <leiyuleiyu> ??
[11:25] <thegladiator> my video files are not beig played well . there is a small pause in between
[11:25] <zdux0012> robotgeek: thanks, got it (linux-image-386)
[11:25] <odat> fretbuzz, then what you want is kubuntu  not just ubuntu
[11:25] <robotgeek> zdux0012: that will reduce the beep sound, if you want to turn off audible bells completely, i think it's in Preferences -> SOund
[11:25] <thegladiator> the cpu usage is shown as 100% when I play a video file
[11:25] <thegladiator> it was working well
[11:25] <CarinArr> zdux0012, what were you trying to "make" when you ran into problems?
[11:25] <fretbuzz> oh darn i just finished the ubuntu download
[11:25] <fretbuzz> whats the difference?
[11:26] <superante> hi to all  someone use gaim with icq protocol...works it??
[11:26] <martinex> hello all
[11:26] <ray_> hey guys, used "sudo dpkg -i package and d/loaded autopackage.tar.bz2 and it sorted it........thanks!  :o)
[11:26] <CarinArr> fretbuzz, you can install kde once you've got ubuntu installed, there's no need to redownload the entire thing
[11:26] <zdux0012> CarinArr: MythTV following directions here:  install linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386
[11:26] <martinex> short question - how to _downgrade_ from dapper to breezy?
[11:26] <CarinArr> zdux0012, ah
[11:26] <robotgeek> fretbuzz: make sure you go for server install
[11:26] <odat> fretbuzz, kubuntu is ubuntu but with kde instead of gnome
[11:26] <robotgeek> fretbuzz: and later install kubuntu-desktop
[11:26] <fretbuzz> oh thats good
[11:26] <andi5> superante: yes, it works, file transfer not fully implemented (next version)
[11:27] <odat> fretbuzz, it will save you space
[11:27] <robotgeek> martinex: that will be a good experiment, lol
[11:27] <superante> ok thanks...because my gaim doesn't work!!! ;)
[11:27] <Blippe> martinex, change to breezy sources.list and then force everything to the versions in the repos
[11:27] <CarinArr> i installed some kde stuff a few weeks ago on my desktop, did some updates, rebooted and i got a kubuntu logo instead.. amused me
[11:27] <robotgeek> misieq_: you can order another shipit
[11:27] <fretbuzz> do i have to install gnome on first install?
[11:27] <odat> fretbuzz, if you really don't use both desktops like i don't use kde than i would rather have the space than two desktops when i only use one
[11:27] <zdux0012> robotgeek: thanks that music to my ears
[11:27] <fretbuzz> and then later remove it and install kde?
[11:27] <Blippe> Yeah, how do i change the startup-logo?
[11:27] <robotgeek> fretbuzz: server install doesn't install gui stuff
[11:28] <odat> fretbuzz, just get kubuntu its the brother to ubuntu its on ubuntu's website
[11:28] <Blippe> I started with a ubuntu, went over to xubuntu, and then to kubuntu, and my startup still says xubuntu
[11:28] <AdTheRat> xubuntu?
[11:28] <zdux0012> CarinArr: I read about GNU,, I really like the ideas behind it (not free, but freedom) so I decided to jump on the linux train. I'm a computer programmer, but I know little of linux
[11:28] <odat> AdTheRat, xfce
[11:28] <AdTheRat> I've not heard of xubuntu..
[11:28] <andi5> hi. easy faq type question (lack of time). i am used to "apt-get source / dpkg-source -x" to get a fully patched debian package src tree, but in ubuntu i see some strange dir hierarchy... how to easily extract and patch that easily (without building of course)
[11:28] <AdTheRat> oouu!
[11:28] <Blippe> xubuntu is with xfce instead of gnome
[11:29] <Blippe> not a cd (yet)
[11:29] <CarinArr> zdux0012, you'll probably love it when you get used to the system, i'm much happier programming in linux than in windows
[11:29] <Blippe> install server and then add xubuntu-desktop
[11:29] <AdTheRat> I use kubuntu at the moment
[11:29] <odat> which i don't see enough of a performance difference between the two to warrant the lack of features
[11:29] <CarinArr> i don't use gnome or kde.. but i use kdevelop and a few other things
[11:29] <fretbuzz> kubuntu is more of a full featured os?
[11:29] <zdux0012> CarinArr,, it seems to have potential. one thing I miss though is the keyboard shortcuts, I never used a mouse in windows,
[11:30] <odat> fretbuzz, what do you mean by that?
[11:30] <misieq_> is (k)ubuntu dapper drake flight-2 for ppc already worth downloading?
[11:30] <martinex> Blippe, how can I _force_ ?
[11:30] <Blippe> I actually get worse performance in gnome, must have done something wrong somewere...
[11:30] <CarinArr> zdux0012, i use fluxbox (a different window manager) and i've got loads of keyboard shortcuts.. never touch my mouse really
[11:30] <fretbuzz> well i dont need or want all the bells and whistles
[11:30] <CarinArr> but you can set up shortcuts in most window managers anyway, it's just getting used to them
[11:31] <odat> fretbuzz, all kubuntu is   is ubuntu with the kde desktop instead of the gnome desktop
[11:31] <Blippe> martinex option in synaptic, in the menu at top-left...
[11:31] <fretbuzz> i need it to print to my lexmark and hp photosmart printers
[11:31] <zdux0012> CarinArr, for instance to right click the taskbar icon, Ctrl+Esc , Shift+Tab, Shift + Tab, Left and right to select icon, context menu key
[11:31] <fretbuzz> i need it to have a powerful command line
[11:31] <martinex> robotgeek, unfortunately there's nothing funny - I have to downgrade because dapper is broken - I lost access to internet - it hangs on "detecting hardware' and doesn't install NIC's drivers
[11:31] <odat> fretbuzz, hp is well support and it depends what type of lexmark you have
[11:31] <thegladiator> does anyone know why is this video pausing for a split secodn when I play divx ?
[11:31] <martinex> Blippe, ok thanks
[11:31] <thegladiator> second*
[11:31] <thomas_> !ntfs
[11:31] <fretbuzz> elinks python c++ java and perl support
[11:31] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[11:31] <zdux0012> CarinArr, I'll look into it, I was thinking about the xfce before, just because I heard it was small
[11:31] <thegladiator> it wasnt hppening before
[11:31] <CarinArr> zdux0012, well if those are the keys your used to you can set up your desktop like that in linux too if you're using a decent window manager
[11:32] <Blippe> martinex, I don't know if it will make your system workable though...
[11:32] <CarinArr> zdux0012, fluxbox is very small too, very lightweight and you can customise almost anything
[11:32] <fretbuzz> and pine for email
[11:32] <martinex> Blippe, well I'll just try - it'll be propably faster option than installing fresh breezy
[11:32] <thegladiator> i removed superKaram and its working fine!
[11:33] <fretbuzz> i will use gui only if ubuntu has good digital photo editors
[11:33] <fretbuzz> otherwise i dont need gui at all
[11:33] <zdux0012> now I'm using Gnome, I used KDE before. I didn't really like KDE, one problem I had was that I (somehow) reduced the zoom on the icons and never got the full size back
[11:33] <odat> fretbuzz, i am partial to gnome which i believe is much lighter weight than kde   i also don't like how kde insist on their programs   gnome really doesn't do that    that kind of stuff make me feel like i'm using windows in a way
[11:33] <CarinArr> even if i only do text based stuff i use a gui.. you can fit more information on your screen
[11:33] <fretbuzz> ok gnome then
[11:33] <fretbuzz> to save space
[11:34] <zdux0012> I used dos a lot in windows
[11:34] <Blippe> fretbuzz you could always try openbox out... or something of the like :D
[11:34] <fretbuzz> does ubuntu have good digital photo editors?
[11:34] <odat> fretbuzz, i don't direct anyone that i have converted to kde ever lol
[11:34] <thegladiator> fretbuzz, gimp
[11:34] <zdux0012> I tell ya,, linux is really getting good,, I think windows is going to get run over in a few years
[11:34] <fretbuzz> gimp i have used in fedora its ok
[11:34] <thegladiator> zdux0012, i tell you the same
[11:35] <zdux0012> I haven't had the situation of "you can't do that in linux"
[11:35] <odat> And i feel the best theme for gnome is NUVOLA  by far   makes gnome sexy lol
[11:35] <Blippe> fretbuzz gimp is in the repos...
[11:35] <fretbuzz> gimp comes with ubuntu?
[11:35] <thegladiator> fretbuzz, gimp is my choice althought I dont any heavy photo editing works
[11:35] <CarinArr> i dunno.. linux is great if you have time to devote to it.. but there're so many different linux factions
[11:35] <thegladiator> fretbuzz, yes it does
[11:35] <odat> and you don't have to play around with what icon or theme border and all of that fit
[11:35] <odat> its the whole thing all setup already
[11:36] <Blippe> fretbuzz will work with any windowmanager. (it sets up properly all by itself)
[11:36] <thegladiator> fun of linux is in fixing the problems  ,leaves you fresh with a clear logical mind
[11:36] <CarinArr> lol thegladiator
[11:36] <CarinArr> i wish
[11:36] <odat> fretbuzz, and open office and firefox
[11:36] <nyj> softwares for 64-bit are not abundant
[11:36] <odat> CarinArr, ?
[11:37] <fretbuzz> open office firefox gimp
[11:37] <odat> nyj, 64bit is not really needed yet on the desktop
[11:37] <CarinArr> odat?
[11:37] <Blippe> what is abundant is kde-media apps which crash... :D
[11:37] <fretbuzz> what about laTEX?
[11:37] <odat> CarinArr, didn't understand your comment earlier about linux
[11:37] <odat> Blippe, lol
[11:37] <thegladiator> fretbuzz, take a look at http://distrowatch.com and hit ubuntu : see packages for ubuntu
[11:37] <Blippe> i don't think you can find a linux distro witout latex fretbuzz
[11:37] <fretbuzz> thankyou gladiator
[11:38] <odat> fretbuzz, its all about the repositories    lol
[11:38] <thegladiator> 64-bit is not for homputers as of now
[11:38] <CarinArr> odat, well windows is just windows, but there are so many different linux versions it's difficult to get a standard way of doing things between all of them, which means a great many users just can't be bothered trying to understand it. I personally think linux is fantastic and prefer it over windows anyday, but I don't think microsoft will loose that great an amount of users to linux anytime soon.. still too fiddly to fix when things go wrong for most people.
[11:38] <theine> fretbuzz, you can also search for packages at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:39] <thegladiator> fretbuzz, there are many gladiators , I am the gladiator - maximus :) just kidding
[11:39] <thegladiator> CarinArr, perfectly I agree
[11:40] <thegladiator> if linux coes down to a stage where once installation and you are done , then I bet a bijillion users wud throw XP
[11:40] <Blippe> CArinArr, well easier and easier distros is shipping. Today it is ubuntu, and ubuntu is a long way from redhat in 1998
[11:40] <CarinArr> odat, for example, i know a great many people who gave up on linux after trying to get nvidia drivers installed correctly. If package managers install them correctly and all is fine, it's all good, but when they don't, most people are intimidated and give up
[11:40] <odat> CarinArr, where linux and what i feel will be ubuntu   will gain ground and lots of it fast are on older machines that aren't worthless but don't warrant spending 120 dollars for an OS for them  this is where linux and ubuntu will be huge
[11:40] <thegladiator> Blippe, yes . but I think Xandros is a bit ahead of ubuntu as far as noobs are concerbed
[11:41] <thegladiator> odat, there are many who wish to part with 120 bucks to get a stupid good looking thing
[11:41] <Blippe> thegladiator, i don't really agree, i think linux, will always have to fight (against to pirated software)
[11:41] <thegladiator> called Windows
[11:41] <Carl> Hey, are there any programs such as ffdshow for ubuntu?
[11:41] <odat> CarinArr, that responsibility falls on people like us where those people can say how do i fix or do this.  That is our part
[11:41] <CarinArr> blippe, yeah, definitely.. but i've been using linux for years and years, and i still have problems installing nvidia drivers. I would class myself as an average user in that i dont dig too deep into things and i probably don't quite understand what actually goes on particularly well..
[11:41] <thegladiator> Blippe, yes , as of now the standards are set , once it changes , yes linux shud takeover
[11:42] <odat> thegladiator, not so much on older computers
[11:42] <CarinArr> odat, yeah, i totally agree.. but these little things i think will keep users with windows for quite a while longer
[11:42] <Blippe> I didn't like xandros last time i looked at it, (which was quite some time ago,though).
[11:42] <thegladiator> its a diff perspective , but I can perfectly understand the point you guys are driving home
[11:42] <xfred> hi there
[11:42] <odat> CarinArr, microsoft will never be gone but at least with our help software get better all together
[11:43] <orfeu> how can i install firefox 1.5 in ubuntu 5.10 ?
[11:43] <Blippe> CarinArr, never had nvidea, can't part from my matrox-dualhead :D
[11:43] <CarinArr> i mean, as an example, i upgraded my kernel using the update-manager, and kapoof went my nvidia drivers.
[11:43] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell orfeu about !irefox
[11:43] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell orfeu about !firefox
[11:43] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell orfeu about firefox
[11:43] <xfred> in open office calc, is there a shortcut to edit the current cell value ?
[11:43] <thegladiator> sorry  for the spams
[11:43] <odat> CarinArr, it took microsoft 6 years to come out with a better internet explorer because they had no competition until firefox    that is what we are doing    forcing better software
[11:44] <zuverink> What is better the blackhawk java or suns java?
[11:44] <Ng> zuverink: Sun's Java
[11:44] <Blippe> zuverink, i like suns!
[11:44] <robotgeek> zuverink: define your criteria for better :)
[11:44] <Ng> (and it's blackdown ;)
[11:44] <thegladiator> suns java wud be preffered since many still use sun's java
[11:44] <CarinArr> odat, yeah, i'm not disagreeing with you, i'm just saying people generally go for "easy" and linux is only easy as long as things work as expected, as soon as you run into problems it gets very intimidating
[11:45] <thegladiator> I think CarinArr's point is very clear
[11:45] <Blippe> CarinArr, and that's why ms won't ever apply to strict ways to stop pirated software :P
[11:45] <zuverink> It was my nvidia card that was causing me install failure, took it out and it installed perfect
[11:45] <Ng> you guys should be talking about microsoft/whateverelse in #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[11:45] <Blippe> Ng sorry!
[11:45] <thegladiator> a perfect example of great thing going down the guts was Apple
[11:46] <robotgeek> thegladiator: ^^^ offtopic :)
[11:46] <thegladiator> such a nice OS it was , but didnt have the support , and lost to MS
[11:46] <odat> CarinArr, i certainly know that i converted five people to linux and i am their personal tech guy lol and i had to solve some problems for them that if i didn't or couldn't it may have drove them back to windows but the more they use linux the more they understand what they are really doing and actually they love it now
[11:46] <odat> change is scary
[11:46] <thegladiator> yes! sorry :) could resist you see :D
[11:47] <thegladiator> robotgeek, did you work on dekorator ?
[11:47] <odat> come on somebody try nuvola for me
[11:48] <thegladiator> anyone here running ubuntu from the office ?
[11:48] <geokker> from the office? What mean you?
[11:48] <Ng> yes
[11:48] <CarinArr> what office would that be?
[11:48] <CarinArr> heh
[11:48] <thegladiator> just to see the penetration
[11:49] <thegladiator> office = place where you get ur salary :)
[11:49] <geokker> Yes, Ubuntu is my work machine
[11:49] <geokker> 5.10
[11:49] <Blippe> I use unix at "work"
[11:49] <thegladiator> good good! nice penetration
[11:49] <CarinArr> still running suse in the office, we only recently got permission to install our weapon of choice and i have been working from home since
[11:49] <geokker> currently getting depressed about open office impress and it's 1982 jagged shapes
[11:50] <thegladiator> he he :)
[11:50] <ejofee> if i installed kubuntu in another language, can i switch language to english and how?
[11:50] <thegladiator> just tweak it mate !
[11:50] <theine> geokker, I'm getting depressed about the embedded video ``support''...
[11:51] <odat> theine, what are you having trouble with?
[11:51] <theine> I'd be curious to know a piece of software that is worse than JMF
[11:51] <bubuntu> hi, i have a problem with Nail, mail user agent. Somebody know that software?
[11:51] <CarinArr> geokker, ah.. like maya and it's motif interface.. really inspires your creativity
[11:51] <theine> odat, well I didn't manage to setup JMF so far
[11:52] <geokker> nope, you're speaking Greek
[11:52] <CarinArr> bubuntu, not me, sorry
[11:52] <odat> theine, jmf?
[11:52] <theine> JMF might actually be not that bad but its setup truly sucks
[11:52] <adrian_> im new, i need help about mysql
[11:52] <theine> odat, java media framework
[11:52] <geokker> JMF?
[11:52] <geokker> ah
[11:53] <theine> geokker, how do you guys embed videos? with mplayer's mozilla plugin?
[11:53] <geokker> whenever I get delayed by Java, a little bit of me dies inside
[11:53] <adrian_> _join #mysql
[11:53] <odat> theine, mplayer is by far the best
[11:53] <Ng> theine: the firefox MediaPlayerConnectivity extension is quite useful, it shows a little square instead of the embedded video and when you click on it, opens it in the media player of your choice, so I use mplayer or totem
[11:53] <Blippe> does anybody know about xubuntu? is all going according to plan? the webpage haven't been updated in quite a while...
[11:54] <theine> Ng, still not as nice as embedded
[11:54] <adrian_> join mysql
[11:54] <odat> theine, the mplayer plugin works great for me
[11:54] <zuverink> is there a web site with additional repositories, aside from the ones the add applications program will add automatically for you?
[11:54] <Ng> theine: I think it's better :)
[11:54] <theine> Ng, well that's a matter of taste I guess
[11:54] <Ng> theine: indeed. the totem plugin in dapper ought to be pretty useful
[11:54] <CarinArr> er ww
[11:54] <Blippe> zuverink, if you add repos to your sources you get more programs in synaptic...
[11:55] <CarinArr> ng, where do you get that from? i'd much rather open it in an external player
[11:55] <Ng> CarinArr: in Firefox go Tools->Extensions and pick Get More Extensions - it's available from that site
[11:55] <theine> odat, do you have any trouble with beamers, etc.?
[11:55] <CarinArr> cool, thanks
[11:55] <odat> zuverink, just replace your sources.list with that one
[11:55] <geokker> I used automatix
[11:55] <odat> theine, what is beamers
[11:55] <geokker> it automagically installed all the plugins for firefox
[11:56] <orfeu> thank you ubuntu i just buy an USB mouse in windows i have many problems with hem but in ubuntu works perfectly ! :)
[11:56] <zuverink> odat: thanks
[11:56] <odat> zuverink, np
[11:56] <Ng> geokker: there's nothing magic about automatix, just a fair potential for problems ;)
[11:56] <geokker> it worked for me
[11:56] <geokker> ish
[11:56] <Ng> what a ringing endorsement ;)
[11:56] <theine> odat, projectors, the things you use when making a presentation... They seem to be called differently in every country in the world...
[11:56] <zuverink> odat: where is the file located?
[11:57] <geokker> best install recently: Real 10 media player - now can listen to Radio 5 on net
[11:57] <odat> zuverink, etc /  apt i think
[11:57] <zuverink> odat: thanks again
[11:57] <Blippe> shouldn't automatix be removed from the forums, hasn't it been superseeded by a toll that doesn't add root?
[11:57] <odat> geokker, mplayer won't do it?
[11:58] <geokker> odat: no, it never worked. Don't know why.
[11:58] <Ng> Blippe: you'd have to ask the forum people that
[11:58] <odat> geokker, huh no kiddin
[11:58] <Blippe> so much work, so much time...
[11:58] <Blippe> er..
[11:58] <theine> geokker, mplayer didn't manage to play your videos?
[11:59] <theine> geokker, or what exactly didn't work?
[11:59] <geokker> yes, it works mostly, but not with radio
[11:59] <geokker> streams
[11:59] <zuverink> odat: those look to be all irc servers????
[11:59] <geokker> does anyone know how to cycle program windows in Gnome?
[11:59] <theine> geokker, ah, ok
[11:59] <geokker> it's been bugging me
[11:59] <odat> zuverink, ????
[12:00] <psypher246> hey all, can anybody help me quick to understand the boot splash system that is used on breezy. I thought it's usplash but that package is not installed on my system
[12:00] <geokker> like alt + tab, but for a single programs multiple windows e.g. terminal
[12:00] <zuverink> that server list you sent
[12:00] <Blippe> geokker, isn't alt-tab setup when it is installed?
[12:00] <guillem101> I've used soundJuicer to rip some audio CDs, but I forgot to specify the genre. How can I edit that (Rythimbox only lets me show the data, no modify it).
[12:00] <zuverink> odat: that server list is all irc servers
[12:00] <geokker> alt + tab just cycles programs
[12:00] <Ng> geokker: I don't think there is such a thing, although you can set the window list panel applet to group windows like that into a single button, which is quite nice
[12:00] <geokker> I want to cycle windows
[12:00] <odat> zuverink, its not a server list is a repositories list   for synaptic
[12:01] <robotgeek> Blippe: after much quibbling, the author finally got rid of the root thing
[12:01] <Blippe> ic
[12:01] <robotgeek> Blippe: he's just not open to suggestion about his code
[12:01] <onkarshinde> Is ALSA anyway related to linmodems (inter modems)?
[12:01] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Blippe about easyubuntu
[12:02] <zuverink> odat: look at that file you sent, its all irc servers
[12:02] <onkarshinde> !easyubuntu
[12:02] <ubotu> hmm... easyubuntu is a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntu
[12:02] <psypher246> hey all, can anybody help me quick to understand the boot splash system that is used on breezy. I thought it's usplash but that package is not installed on my system
[12:03] <odat> zuverink, no its not  i have sent that file a hundred times to people no one has ever had a problem with them  its a repositories list  not an irc servers list
[12:03] <odat> sheesh
[12:05] <gimmulf> how do i change my host, have no idea where to start and im also behind a router
[12:06] <gimmulf> also i would like to use another host when im using irc
[12:06] <psypher246> can anyone help me please, i just need to know which bootsplash system breezy uses by default, PLEASE!
[12:07] <onkarshinde> psypher246: It is usplash
[12:08] <psypher246> thanks, but then how come that package is not installed on my system?
[12:08] <bimberi> psypher246: i think it does use usplash - it's a depency of ubuntu-desktop (so should normally be installed) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[12:08] <gimmulf> !host
[12:08] <ubotu> Wish i knew, gimmulf
[12:09] <psypher246> thanks I've found that howto already, so is that it then?
[12:09] <bimberi> psypher246: afaik
[12:10] <gnomefreak> gimmulf, go to system admin. than networking on the tab named general you will see your host name change it to what you want
[12:10] <Thorondor> hi everyone
[12:10] <Thorondor> i have some problems deleting files on my flashstick... all i get is "rm: cannot remove `file': Read-only file system", even with sudo in front - how can i delete them anyways?
[12:11] <gimmulf> gnomefreak:  system admin?
[12:11] <gnomefreak> gimmulf, are you using gnome?
[12:11] <gimmulf> nope
[12:11] <gimmulf> fluxbox
[12:11] <psypher246> bimberi: that howto says I should apt-get install libbogl-dev, what repo is that on? cos it don't find it
[12:11] <gnomefreak> does fluxbox have a networking tool?
[12:11] <gimmulf> dont know :)
[12:11] <Ng> fluxbox is a window manager
[12:12] <CarinArr> i was going to say..
[12:12] <CarinArr> heh
[12:12] <Pome> how do I make the panel pretty?
[12:12] <Pome> it lets down other eye candy
[12:12] <bimberi> !info libbogl-dev
[12:12] <ubotu> libbogl-dev: (Ben's Own Graphics Library - development files), section libdevel, is optional. Version: 0.1.18-1.1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 77 kB, Installed size: 340 kB
[12:12] <odat> Pome, i use nuvola theme
[12:12] <bimberi> psypher246: it's in main
[12:13] <Blippe> how do you add a busy-cursor o fluxbox?
[12:13] <CarinArr> gimmulf, you can run "gnome-network-preferences" from a terminal
[12:13] <CarinArr> blippe, my fluxbox is never busy..
[12:13] <CarinArr> ;)
[12:13] <Blippe> good answer
[12:14] <Blippe> But it is unnerving using it... "is it opening my document?"
[12:14] <gimmulf> CarinArr:  ahh ok im there, but if im behind a router will my host still change at irc?
[12:14] <CarinArr> anyway.. it has the default ubuntu busy cursor
[12:14] <CarinArr> doens't it?
[12:14] <psypher246> bimberi: and main should be activated on a server install right? doesn't find it I tell you
[12:14] <Ng> Blippe: I believe fluxbox doesn't support that
[12:14] <CarinArr> oh you mean if you're opening an application?
[12:14] <Thorondor> i have some problems deleting files on my flashstick... all i get is "rm: cannot remove `file': Read-only file system", even with sudo in front - how can i delete them anyways?
[12:15] <gnomefreak> gimmulf, what host are you changing? i dont remember the host name of pc has anything to do with irc:(
[12:15] <gimmulf> ahha ok
[12:15] <gimmulf> gnomefreak:  just want another host at irc
[12:15] <Pome> Stuff is read-only when I use Nautilus with SFTP - what gives?
[12:15] <bimberi> psypher246: hm, you might only have the CD repository enabled - pastebin your sources.list
[12:15] <CarinArr> gimmulf, you can't change that.. some people use other servers to "bounce" through which gives them some other hostname.. but who could be bothered with that:)
[12:15] <Ng> Pome: the user you are connecting to the sftp server with probably doesn't have permission to write to the files?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> dont mind me im gonna sit in the corner nad stay lost :(
[12:17] <psypher246> bimberi: sorry explain pastebin to me, I asked last time but nobody did, thanks
[12:18] <thegladiator> !paste
[12:18] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[12:18] <bimberi> psypher246: that post from ubotu (above) :)
[12:18] <flax> question, how do i make a directory and it's files and subdirectories readable by other users, without giving everything a execute bit ? i tried "chmod -R 755 %directoryname%", but this makes all the files also executable.
[12:19] <thegladiator> psypher246, paste bin is a palce where you dump ur output , cod etc, so that other can help you fix bugs and yet avoid spams in channels like this
[12:19] <Pome> that paste bin is cool!
[12:19] <psypher246> cool, thanks. by the way, just checked, yr right main is not activated, I will check it out and let u know, thanks
[12:20] <Bamm`laptop> +r
[12:20] <bimberi> psypher246: np
[12:21] <bimberi> flax: chmod -R a+r %dirname%
[12:21] <onkarshinde> flax: you can simple do 'chmod o+are filenames' this means give read permissions to others. Similarlu g+r for group.
[12:22] <flax> hmmz, thanks, i thought that i also needed to give others execute rights on the directories
[12:23] <guillem101> hmm, easytag does it all ;-) nice piece of software.
[12:24] <guillem101> id3ed did not work for me ???
[12:24] <Blippe> guillem101 wait until somebody gets Picard-(musicbrainz) working on ubuntu
[12:25] <Blippe> not literally
[12:25] <guillem101> gnomefreak, no, easytag is a tool to tag ogg/mp3 files...
[12:26] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, tell us your issues and if someone knows they will answer you
[12:26] <gnomefreak> oh ok ty guillem101
[12:26] <_Otaku_> that's great, erm.. ok first problem is thunderbird
[12:26] <_Otaku_> it wouldn't open a window to compose message
[12:26] <netstar> Anyone want to check out a wallpaper I've doctored for ubuntu?
[12:26] <thegladiator> yes netstar me
[12:26] <Sigu> argh
[12:26] <netstar> http://alastair.gatheringofgray.com/ubuntuman.jpg
[12:26] <_Otaku_> so i uninstalled it and tried to reinstall it
[12:26] <_Otaku_> but now it seems the package server is down
[12:27] <Sigu> I hate newsgroups when people post long files and completely ruin the formatting
[12:27] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, what ubuntu version are you running?
[12:27] <thegladiator> g r e  a t -  o ne  netstar
[12:27] <_Otaku_> breezy badger 5.10 thingy
[12:27] <netstar> cheers th
[12:27] <netstar> thegladiator,
[12:27] <thegladiator> why dont have a real life fella ?
[12:28] <thegladiator> a real person wud be better no ?
[12:28] <netstar> possibly
[12:28] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, honestly i use thunderbird and the only issue ive had with it lately is not being able to send emails :(
[12:28] <_Otaku_> ha!
[12:28] <_Otaku_> i had the same problem
[12:29] <gnomefreak> very very annoying ill tell ya
[12:29] <_Otaku_> but since i uninstalled it i can't even receive mails :-S
[12:29] <_Otaku_> i managed to import all my mails from XP profile
[12:29] <_Otaku_> without a problem
[12:29] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird wont work?
[12:29] <_Otaku_> oh thanks, i'll try that
[12:29] <Bamm`laptop> make sure to run sudo apt-get update first
[12:30] <_Otaku_> update, okies
[12:30] <_Otaku_> thanks Bamm`laptop
[12:30] <CarinArr> weds 25th 9 am
[12:30] <gnomefreak> he just had synaptic open that will automaticlly run update
[12:30] <CarinArr> er wrong window..
[12:30] <_Otaku_> synaptic couldn't connect to package servers
[12:30] <_Otaku_> apt-get seems to work
[12:30] <Bamm`laptop> I didn't read much of the convo gnomefreak :P
[12:31] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, ahhhhh
[12:31] <_Otaku_> :)
[12:31] <gnomefreak> my frigging backspace key died :(
[12:31] <_Otaku_> i have seeeeeveral other problems, i couldn't really find newbie-friendly help online
[12:31] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, next issue?
[12:31] <_Otaku_> and the only one i know who is a linux freak told me to go fuck myself :)
[12:32] <Bamm`laptop> Haha, just ask questions and someone will probably help you
[12:32] <Manifold> Can I convert an existing ext2 partition to ext3?
[12:32] <Manifold> Or do I have to format and start again?
[12:32] <_Otaku_> okydoky ;-)
[12:32] <gnomefreak> if it makes you feel at home im sure someone could acomadate you on that lol j/k
[12:32] <onkarshinde> Manifold: I suppose you can. Not sure though
[12:32] <thegladiator> onkarshinde, jai hind
[12:32] <flax> bimberi: the user cannot enter the directories, i gave readrights
[12:33] <HoHoHo> Hi guys, May I know how can I use Wine correctly?
[12:33] <Bamm`laptop> wine program name
[12:33] <Manifold> You have an idea how, onkarshinde?
[12:33] <Manifold> !wine
[12:33] <Bamm`laptop> !info wine
[12:33] <ubotu> wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14131 kB, Installed size: 55484 kB
[12:33] <pome> with cheese
[12:33] <Manifold> ubotu tell HoHoHo about wine
[12:33] <flax> i did this chmod -R a+r %dirname%
[12:33] <bimberi> flax: yes, they will need execute rights on the directories
[12:34] <flax> bimberi: i know that, but how should i do this recursive?
[12:34] <chrisx1> hey
[12:34] <flax> do do i really have to use find?
[12:34] <HoHoHo> I see Thanks :) But I got a program. It gave me this error while doing wine program name
[12:34] <chrisx1> how do i start sshd
[12:34] <HoHoHo> Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.
[12:34] <HoHoHo> Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system" is not accessible.
[12:34] <HoHoHo> Warning: could not find DOS drive for current working directory '/home/limguohong91', starting in the Windows directory.
[12:35] <flax> chrisx1: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start (after installing it, using apt-get install sshd) (or something like that)
[12:35] <Bamm`laptop> openssh-server
[12:35] <chrisx1> ty
[12:35] <bimberi> flax: i think you will :/ (unfortunately i don't know the syntax)
[12:35] <flax> bimberi: well that was my question ;)
[12:36] <_Otaku_> damn i use german language linux, i guess i can't post my questions in here properly... current problem is thunderbird doesn't start; in system surveillance program thingy it says "run-mozilla.sh sleeping"
[12:36] <bimberi> flax: yeah, i thought i'd cut you off before you asked :P
[12:36] <flax> and since im lazy,.. and i wanted to know this now foresure i thought, lets see here :D
[12:36] <chrisx1> flax, Bamm`laptop, sudo: /etc/init.d/sshd: command not found
[12:36] <Bamm`laptop> try /etc/init.d/ssh start
[12:36] <gnomefreak> <<<<: x
[12:36] <thegladiator> _Otaku_, change to english till you get the full help ?
[12:36] <flax> chrisx1: do you dont have it installed?
[12:36] <_Otaku_> i would love to, but.. how? :-)
[12:36] <thegladiator> or it is not possible ?
[12:36] <chrisx1> flax, yep
[12:37] <thegladiator> ah
[12:37] <Bamm`laptop> did you try ssh instead of sshd?
[12:37] <chrisx1> kk it started
[12:37] <chrisx1> ty
[12:37] <flax> chrisx1: and how do you know  it aint running yet?
[12:37] <Bamm`laptop> np
[12:37] <flax> chrisx1: never mind
[12:37] <vbgunz> I remember once I got rid of the Alt key behavior... Currently if I hold down the Alt key in one of my applications and then click inside the app with the mouse and drag it, the window gets dragged... I do not want this behavior... How do I kill the alt behavior?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> ill brb me and ubuntu are about to have it out
[12:37] <thegladiator> lol gnomefreak
[12:38] <flax> anyone here, who can help me with my "chmod -R a+r %dirname%" question? how do i also add execute rights on the directories?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> chmod -rx file
[12:38] <gnomefreak> brb
[12:38] <flax> gnomefreak: recursive ;)
[12:38] <thegladiator> flax as in #linux also if you dont get help here..its a genreal question
[12:39] <flax> thegladiator:  okay,... well maybe i can help a few others, i will hang around for a while
[12:39] <flax> thanx iig
[12:39] <thegladiator> good
[12:40] <_Otaku_> thunderbird doesn't start up :( if i use thunderbird profile manager it says default profile is already in use, but i am sure i stopped all thunderbird processes :S
[12:40] <Bamm`laptop> killall -v thunderbird ?
[12:41] <winograd> !ps2
[12:41] <ubotu> winograd: Not a clue
[12:41] <_Otaku_> *tries*
[12:41] <winograd> helllo peeps
[12:41] <winograd> please helpme setup the ps2 mouse on my laptop
[12:41] <_Otaku_>  killall -v thunderbird
[12:41] <_Otaku_> thunderbird: Kein Prozess abgebrochen
[12:41] <_Otaku_> means no process was killed
[12:41] <Thorondor> _Otaku_: i hat the same problem with firefox. apparantely they create a file calles ``LOCK'' in the config dir
[12:41] <_Otaku_> do i have to delete that? @ Thorondor
[12:42] <Thorondor> it worked for me in firefox
[12:42] <winograd> please help me setup the ps2 mouse on my laptop
[12:42] <Thorondor> i don't use thunderbird, but you could give it a try
[12:42] <_Otaku_> deleting it? *just asking to make sure*
[12:42] <Carl> Hello, do you guys know how do update the gcc to gcc-3.x?
[12:42] <winograd> use synaptic
[12:42] <winograd> please help me setup the ps2 mouse on my laptop
[12:43] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, find the profile file and get rid of it i cant remember how i did it tho :(
[12:43] <Carl> ive looked in synaptic but I cant find it
[12:43] <gnomefreak> Carl, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:44] <_Otaku_> i found it
[12:44] <_Otaku_> but
[12:44] <winograd> will anybody help?
[12:44] <gnomefreak> that will give you 4.0
[12:44] <_Otaku_> erm lol.. when i try to delete it nautilus crashes
[12:44] <Bamm`laptop> wompgrad, look at gnomefreaks comment
[12:44] <Bamm`laptop> use command line otaku
[12:44] <Thorondor> _Otaku_ : then try it via terminal
[12:44] <Bamm`laptop> rm -i FILENAME
[12:44] <onkarshinde> winograd: what is problem with mouse?
[12:44] <winograd> well, it won't, work
[12:45] <_Otaku_> thank you! (i am not familiar with linux terminal and command line ..commands)
[12:45] <redguy|work> gnomefreak: update-alternatives perhaps?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> redguy|work, if he doesnt have it installed that command isnt gonna do much help :(
[12:46] <gnomefreak> but it is a fun command to run :))
[12:46] <andrei> hello. i have an sapphire radeon 9600 vc. downloaded the ati driver from their site, ran graphical installer then ran fglrxconfig. i have chosen the default stuff untill the agpgart stuff and kept my nvidia2 agpgart module already installed. at the end it said that did not find a BUSId, and the line in the xorg.conf sais "# no device found at config time". what the problem should be? thanks
[12:46] <vell> alloha
[12:46] <redguy|work> gnomefreak: erm, sorry. thought it was you who wanted help
[12:46] <winograd> huh, my mouse refuses to work :/ gnomefreak, help :/
[12:46] <Carl> Ive been trying for hours to install mplayer, all I get is that I have wrong version of the gcc
[12:46] <redguy|work> !info gcc-3.4
[12:46] <ubotu> gcc-3.4: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 3.4.4-6ubuntu8 (breezy), Packaged size: 473 kB, Installed size: 4520 kB
[12:47] <onkarshinde> winograd: did you add the mouse after you installed Ubuntu?
[12:47] <gnomefreak> winograd, lol @ gnomefreak help
[12:47] <winograd> onkarshide: huh, where?
[12:47] <winograd> gnomefreak: whats funny?
[12:47] <redguy|work> Carl: install gcc-3.4, and then run update-alternatives gcc
[12:47] <gnomefreak> winograd, ok open terminal and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and go through the process and change your mouse settings to be what you need it to be
[12:47] <_Otaku_> ok, got to delete the lock file (was a symbolic link it seems) now thunderbird-bin thing appears in system surveillance program, but still no thunderbird gui :(
[12:48] <Carl> okey, but where do I find gcc-3.4?
[12:48] <Bamm`laptop> You've re-installed it right otaku?
[12:48] <bimberi> flax: still here?
[12:48] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, have you tried sudo apt-get remove --purge mozilla-thunderbird?
[12:48] <_Otaku_> yeap, via sudo apt-get command
[12:48] <_Otaku_> oh
[12:48] <_Otaku_> no @ gnomefreak
[12:48] <vell> ghg
[12:49] <_Otaku_> what does that command do? @ gnomefreak
[12:49] <CarinArr> carl, search for gcc in synaptic, it should come up there
[12:49] <Bamm`laptop> Removed thunderbird and the files
[12:49] <_Rappy_> Errormessage: "No symbols found" when trying to run X. Anyone have an idea?
[12:49] <redguy|work> Carl: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 doesn't work?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, it will remove thunderbird and files having  to do with thunderbird
[12:49] <redguy|work> !tell Carl about nicktab
[12:49] <_Otaku_> but will it also remove my profile? :S all my mails? :S
[12:49] <Bamm`laptop> Try that or sudo dpkg -r mozilla-thunderbird and then sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird again
[12:49] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, can only hope so
[12:49] <Bamm`laptop> Yea :x
[12:50] <Carl> it installed something with sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4, ill try to compile mplayer again
[12:50] <_Otaku_> but.. but, i don't want to lose my mails, i'll just rename the profile-folder :S
[12:50] <_Otaku_> will that help?
[12:50] <robotgeek> _Otaku_: i dont think it removes your mails
[12:51] <_Otaku_> ok :) *tries*
[12:51] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, the server will still hold your mail if you have it set to
[12:51] <gnomefreak> server being hotmail/gmail/whatevermail
[12:51] <robotgeek> _Otaku_: just back it up, don't move your profiles directory though
[12:51] <_Otaku_> i have, the backup mails should be on winXP (i hope)
[12:51] <Bamm`laptop> If your really paranoid just copy them?
[12:51] <_Otaku_> *copies them*
[12:52] <gnomefreak> i have mine set to archive automaticlly in gmail if i use thunderbird to open them :)
[12:52] <Bamm`laptop> Same
[12:52] <_Otaku_> i don't have a gmail account ^^
[12:52] <gnomefreak> that way if i lose thunderbird i still have addresses and emails
[12:52] <Bamm`laptop> But my personalized google home w/ 6-7 rss feeds surpasses my need for checking it using thunderbird :D
[12:52] <gnomefreak> i have 4 :(
[12:53] <_Otaku_> lol
[12:53] <_Otaku_> i backup my mails regularly with mozilla backup application (a windows app)
[12:53] <gnomefreak> last count i think i had 16 working emails :((
[12:53] <_Otaku_> email accounts?
[12:53] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, yes :(
[12:53] <_Otaku_> sheesh
[12:53] <_Otaku_> i have "only" 5
[12:54] <Bamm`laptop> Hehe otaku, shouldn't be hard to backup e-mails daily, weekly, etc with a cron and simple script :] 
[12:54] <_Otaku_> i don't know how to make one or even how to use one :)
[12:54] <_Otaku_> not yet, that is
[12:55] <gnomefreak> Bamm`laptop, psssst dont say script so loud please i had to write one for someone yesterday :(
[12:55] <joda_> hey all - simple question. I know that I can rerun the config that is done during install, but I don't remember the command to do so - can anyone help?
[12:55] <Set> base-config ?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> xserver?
[12:55] <joda_> set: that's the one :) thanks
[12:56] <Set> No, thank you! I was able to help someone ^^
[12:56] <_Otaku_> Updating mozilla-thunderbird chrome registry...find: warning: you have specified the -maxdepth option after a non-option argument -name, but options are not positional (-maxdepth affects tests specified before it as well as those specified after it).  Please specify options before other arguments.
[12:56] <_Otaku_> find: warning: you have specified the -maxdepth option after a non-option argument -name, but options are not positional (-maxdepth affects tests specified before it as well as those specified after it).  Please specify options before other arguments.
[12:56] <_Otaku_> done.
[12:57] <_Otaku_> :S
[12:57] <gnomefreak> Set, your not done helping joda_ yet :(
[12:57] <gnomefreak> _Otaku_, please dont paste in here and btw it worked ignore those warnings i do :))
[12:58] <_Otaku_> sorry :(
[12:58] <gnomefreak> im tried of this -f install command im gonna dream about it :(
[12:58] <Set> gnomefreak, I aint?
[12:58] <_Otaku_> gnahh, it still doesn't work
[12:59] <flax> bimberi: i am again here,..  was running for a cup of soup
[12:59] <gnomefreak> Set, didnt joda_ need the command?
[12:59] <Set> gnomefreak, I gave it to him
[12:59] <gnomefreak> oh ok sorry
[12:59] <Set> :p
[12:59] <joda_> hmm - well, it didn't do what I thought it'd do :/ I was hoping I'd be able to change the available screen resolutions...
[01:00] <joda_> but It was the one I was thinking of
[01:00] <meepy> How do I install "Writing Aid" for danish language?
[01:00] <meepy> I fpossible, it says "broken package, fix first"
[01:00] <_Otaku_> ah it starts again :) but now i'm back where i was before, it still isn't allowing me to compose new messages
[01:01] <redguy|work> joda_: to change screen resolutions you might want to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:02] <_Rappy_> A friend of mine gets this error when X is starting up (right after a fresh installation): "No symbols found" Anyone know what's wrong?
[01:02] <Bamm`laptop> Otaku, you did 100% fresh install earlier ?
[01:03] <_Otaku_> Bamm`laptop: yeap
[01:03] <_Otaku_> well i did the commands you told me to do
[01:03] <_Otaku_> and it appears they worked fine
[01:03] <gnomefreak> grrrrrr ill bbl
[01:03] <joda_> redguy: that gave me the options I needed to change -thanks
[01:04] <pome> expose for Gnome?
[01:04] <joda_> gonna restart gnome - If I don't return it's either because my xserver got nuked, or because it worked =)
[01:04] <_Otaku_> wb :) are you german?
[01:05] <wb> yes
[01:05] <_Otaku_> are you using thunderbird? :D
[01:05] <Bamm`laptop> Haha
[01:05] <wb> so far
[01:05] <_Otaku_> aslkdjfskldj
[01:06] <_Otaku_> can i pm you?
[01:06] <redguy|work> interesting _Otaku_
[01:06] <wb> ok
[01:07] <Bamm`laptop> Otaku PM me too (need registered nickname)
[01:07] <Badm4n> http://www.sat-c.net/server/htb/ <--- my htb conf .... why i cant run my htb error like at http://pastebin.com/500648
[01:08] <cyriL__> hello
[01:08] <cyriL__> need help
[01:09] <cyriL__> for AMD64bits with ubuntu32bits: do i have to install linux-image-686 or linux-image-k7 ???
[01:09] <thegladiator> hola
[01:10] <thegladiator> i am on 512 MB RAM
[01:10] <cyriL__> hello
[01:10] <cyriL__> someone can help me?
[01:10] <thegladiator> my previous mem was bothering me very much ! now ubuntu is working fine ...thanks to memtest86+
[01:10] <meepy> How do I install "Writing Aid" for danish language?
[01:11] <thegladiator> open office is coming in a jiffy . i like it
[01:12] <visik7> why some apps are compiled with --disable-gnome-vfs ?
[01:12] <Ng> visik7: such as?
[01:12] <visik7> beep media player
[01:12] <visik7> and it's compiled static
[01:12] <flax> cyriL__:  no i dont your guestion
[01:13] <flax> cyriL__:  ;)
[01:13] <flax> cyriL__: what is your question
[01:13] <bimberi> flax: find %dir% -type d -exec chmod a+x {} \;
[01:13] <Ng> visik7: not sure, perhaps its gnome-vfs support isn't stable?
[01:13] <robotgeek_temp>  /j #kubuntu
[01:13] <Badm4n> http://www.sat-c.net/server/htb/ <--- my htb conf .... why i cant run my htb error like at http://pastebin.com/500648
[01:13] <flax> bimberi: Thanx...
[01:14] <bimberi> flax: np - i learnt something too :)
[01:14] <visik7> Ng: I hope isthe only apps that has this setting
[01:14] <Ng> visik7: I don't think it's compiled statically though, I just installed it and it's linked against a bunch of libraries
[01:14] <visik7> Ng: apt-get source beep-media-player and look in debian/rules
[01:14] <flax> bimberi: still i find it ugly that it cannot be done in 1 command,... well we can life  with this ;)
[01:14] <_Otaku_> wah, where did bamm go? :(
[01:15] <bimberi> flax: make a script - then it's 1 command ;)
[01:16] <Ng> visik7: --enable-static builds its libraries statically, so libbeep, but the main beep program is dynamic
[01:16] <visik7> Ng oh ok
[01:16] <cyriL__> flax, with an AMD64bits proc + ubuntu32bits; do i have to install linux-image-686 or linux-image-k7 ??
[01:16] <Ng> k7
[01:16] <flax> bimberi:  on my desktop i would do this,.. but we are talkign about servers here ;)
[01:16] <visik7> btw I would like to enable gstreamer for bmp is there any way ?
[01:17] <Ng> visik7: I don't think so, it's still listed in their TODO file
[01:18] <HCl> can someone help me? whenever i start xscreensaver, and i press a key to get to the locked screen to input my password, the text on the lock screen is completely garbled, it's that i know i have to fill in my password, otherwise i wouldn't have a clue to what it's trying to say
[01:18] <HCl> does anyone know how to fix xscreensaver's fonts?
[01:18] <visik7> Ng: on the wiki says to use --enable-gst --disable-xine but that options in ./configure are missed
[01:18] <_jacob> you probably need to install 100 dpi & 75 dpi fonts
[01:18] <flax> cyriL__: i think that the k7 should run,.. but im not sure about this
[01:18] <HCl> _jacob: how do i do that?
[01:19] <Ng> visik7: well the version in ubuntu is from august, so maybe the gst support is newer than that
[01:19] <flax> cyriL__: maybe you should ask the question to everyone, instead of asking  me ;)
[01:19] <visik7> Ng: ok maybe I can get source from dapper
[01:19] <_jacob> apt-get install xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi
[01:19] <flax> cyriL__: but you can always try,.. grub will let you also boot from your older kernel's if im not mistaken
[01:19] <flax> cyriL__:  ;)
[01:20] <Ng> visik7: possibly, although dapper is on gstreamer0.10. Not sure if that will prevent it working with 0.8 in breezy
[01:20] <cyriL__> flax, right. thanks ! ;-)
[01:20] <HCl> hmm...
[01:20] <HCl> xfonts-100dpi is installed..
[01:20] <_jacob> how bout 75
[01:20] <HCl> so is 75dpi
[01:20] <HCl> so that wasn't it :/
[01:20] <cyriL__> flax, take a look on board... not clear http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/installation/kernel_optimise
[01:20] <_jacob> hmmm
[01:20] <Set> How can I setup proftpd to function as a ftp server with support for sftp, and have only anonymous access, with upload rights to /home/ftp/upload ?
[01:20] <HCl> i use enlightenment as window manager, can that have any influence?
[01:21] <_jacob> i don't know...i use fluxbox...but i remember that problem once....what are you running dapper or breezy?
[01:21] <flax> cyriL__:  french, not my best language :D
[01:21] <flax> cyriL__: did you try google?
[01:22] <HCl> breezy
[01:22] <HCl> what's dapper?
[01:22] <mwe> HCl: the next ubuntu release
[01:22] <_jacob> dapper = latest & greatest = dev version
[01:22] <HCl> ahh.
[01:22] <_jacob> i use dapper
[01:22] <HCl> maybe i should dist-upgrade then?
[01:22] <_jacob> have no issues
[01:22] <Ng> HCl: no
[01:23] <cyriL__> help: for AMD64bits proc + ubuntu32bits: do i have to install kernel linux-image-686 OR linux-image-k7???
[01:23] <mwe> _jacob: I wouldn't use it on a production machine though
[01:23] <Ng> if you need to ask, you shouldn't be running dapper
[01:23] <HCl> mk.
[01:23] <Ng> cyriL__: k7
[01:23] <_jacob> definetly true
[01:23] <_jacob> no production!!!!
[01:23] <HCl> okay.
[01:23] <_jacob> my personal play machine
[01:23] <HCl> so.. any ideas about what causes xscreensaver to mess up? :/
[01:23] <cyriL__> flax, on irc french canal i did not have same ansxers from users...
[01:23] <mwe> _jacob: it's great for that purpose
[01:23] <_Otaku_> ! ! THUNDERBIRD WORKS ! !
[01:23] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, _Otaku_
[01:23] <_Otaku_> :D
[01:23] <HCl> it's not a horrid problem, it's mostly just an eyesore..
[01:24] <_jacob> you know what you can do...you can try "apt-get install kscreensaver -s" see the deps on that and maybe see what you are missing
[01:24] <mwe> _Otaku_: great news. I've used it for a couple of years already though
[01:24] <flax> cyriL__: grub is your best friend ;)
[01:24] <HCl> hm.
[01:24] <_jacob> has anyone got bmpx to work?
[01:24] <flax> cyriL__: i soemtimes screw up,..
[01:24] <_jacob> i am really struggling
[01:24] <_Otaku_> lol mwe, i had a little problem with it, it wouldn't send mails
[01:24] <_Otaku_> but problem solved, was something with the extensions it seems
[01:24] <flax> but if ng says k7 i also say k7
[01:25] <_jacob> i can't get the thing to even run
[01:25] <mwe> _Otaku_: ok
[01:25] <_jacob> some libdbus crap
[01:25] <cyriL__> Ng, ok linux-image-k7 is better than linux-image-k7-2-6-12-...... ?
[01:25] <HCl> shouldn't xscreensaver refuse to run though, if it's missing libraries?
[01:25] <cyriL__> flax, right but i m noob
[01:25] <_jacob> i don't think its libs i think its fonts
[01:25] <HCl> *nods*
[01:25] <HCl> yea
[01:26] <HCl>  kdebase-bin kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2 kscreensaver libarts1c2
[01:26] <HCl> libnetpbm10 libopenexr2c2 libpcre3 libqt3-mt menu-xdg netpbm
[01:26] <mwe> cyriL__: it's the same. linux-image-k7 just installs the latest real k7 kernel
[01:26] <Ng> cyriL__: linux-image-k7 is a virtual package that depends on linux-image-k7-2.6.12-... - if you want you can just install "linux-k7" and it will automatically depend on the latest k7 kernel packages
[01:26] <HCl> are the things kscreensaver would need
[01:26] <_jacob> hmm
[01:27] <HCl> i wonder what xscreensaver uses for the locked dialog anyways.. gtk or qt..?
[01:27] <Ng> gtk I believe
[01:27] <HCl> hm..
[01:27] <_jacob> i think these guys are worth install...can't do harm i think...libqt3-mt  libarts1c2 libopenexr2c2 libpcre3 menu-xdg
[01:27] <Ng> although it might just be hacked to look a bit like it, it used to use raw athena widgets
[01:27] <_jacob> but -s
[01:27] <cyriL__> automatic updates will run with linux-image ?
[01:28] <_jacob> so ANYONE bmpx ?!? i am desperate
[01:28] <HCl> okay, i'll try..
[01:28] <Ng> hehe, yeah, it is still using raw widgets
[01:28] <HCl> i'll skip arts cause thats just sound, right?
[01:28] <mwe> _jacob: do you mean if they will update the image?
[01:28] <crimsun> _jacob: the deb linked from BMPx's wiki should work just fine
[01:28] <_jacob> no...bmpx is the latest thing from the house of xmms
[01:28] <drcode> any one mybe know open source server for streaming
[01:28] <Ng> cyriL__: it'll just tell you when there is a new kernel through the normal update-notifier (the little red circle that appears on the panel when updates are available)
[01:28] <drcode> like windows media player?
[01:29] <_jacob> crimsum...doesn't work
[01:29] <crimsun> _jacob: what does it break on?
[01:29] <_jacob> blows windows media player away
[01:29] <_jacob> Depends: libdbus-1-1 (>= 0.36.2) but it is not going to be installed
[01:29] <_jacob>         Depends: libdbus-glib-1-1 (>= 0.36.2) but it is not going to be installed
[01:29] <_jacob>         Depends: libtag1c2 (>= 1.3.1) but it is not installable
[01:29] <HCl> didn't help...
[01:29] <cyriL__> if i choose linux-image = last kernel but without auto updates?
[01:30] <crimsun> _jacob: it just needs to be recompiled against the newer libdbus-1-dev
[01:30] <cyriL__> linux-k7 = last kernel and auto updates?
[01:30] <_jacob> tried that
[01:30] <crimsun> _jacob: (and of course the corresponding libdbus-glib-1-dev)
[01:30] <mwe> cyriL__: I think you can choose hold back for packages you don't want to update
[01:30] <dzinas> hello
[01:30] <dzinas> maby someone can help me?
[01:30] <mwe> !helpme
[01:30] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[01:31] <dzinas> !helpme
[01:31] <cyriL__> mwe, sorry don't understand...
[01:31] <_jacob> crimson...installing now
[01:31] <flax> dzinas: Welcome to #ubuntu, Please ask your question
[01:31] <flax> ;)
[01:31] <Badm4n> http://www.sat-c.net/server/htb/ <--- my htb conf .... why i cant run my htb error like at http://pastebin.com/500648
[01:31] <dzinas> maby someone could tell me how to shere internet frow ubuntu?
[01:32] <dzinas> i have 2 lan cards
[01:32] <cyriL__> mwe, see my previous post. right?
[01:33] <_jacob> ok trying to recomplile bmpx
[01:33] <_Otaku_> !wine
[01:33] <Ng> cyriL__: just install linux-k7 - it will then work like the rest of the system with respect to upgrades
[01:33] <flax> dzinas: /etc/network/options => ip_forward = yes (assuming that you want to share the same network)
[01:34] <Sux> hello niggaz
[01:34] <flax> dzinas: when you want to let the server to connect your lan to the internet, it becomes another story,.. you have to run nat and dhcp and stuff like that
[01:34] <mwe> cyriL__: at least in aptitude you can choose to hold package
[01:34] <flax> dzinas: i assume you want the last?
[01:34] <Sux> hello noobs
[01:35] <Sux>  
[01:35] <flax> hello sux ;)
[01:35] <dzinas> i want to shere internet to another computer
[01:35] <flax> dzinas: maybe you should have a look at  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91370.html
[01:35] <Sux> 
[01:35] <g0dz1`> hi all
[01:35] <mwe> Sux: don't be lame
[01:35] <dzinas> ok
[01:35] <HCl> still no luck... hrm...
[01:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hey g0dz1`
[01:35] <Sux> mwe   
[01:36] <g0dz1`> rofl
[01:36] <_jacob> HCI: maybe you should check the xorg channel
[01:36] <HCl> k..
[01:36] <g0dz1`> PuMpErNiCkLe, How are you doing?
[01:36] <Sux> hmmm
[01:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> g0dz1`: Not bad, not bad... you?
[01:36] <g0dz1`> Sux,   
[01:36] <Sux> it is really noobs
[01:36] <dzinas> flax,  thaks ] 
[01:36] <Sux> g0dz1`     
[01:37] <Sux> yo nugopacbI
[01:37] <_jacob> HCI: another thing ....you mite have to restart x after those installs
[01:37] <g0dz1`> PuMpErNiCkLe, Perfectly =
[01:37] <_jacob> and force-reload
[01:37] <g0dz1`> =)
[01:37] <Badm4n> http://www.sat-c.net/server/htb/ <--- my htb conf .... why i cant run my htb error like at http://pastebin.com/500679
[01:37] <g0dz1`> Sux,    
[01:37] <Sux> 
[01:37] <Sux> g0dz1` nme  
[01:38] <dzinas> flax, tomas@Juodas:~$ sudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[01:38] <dzinas> bash: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward: Permission denied
[01:38] <dzinas>   what it meens?;] 
[01:38] <Ng> Badm4n: you'd be more likely to get answers on a htb channel/forum/mailinglist, it's unlikely to have many users here
[01:38] <g0dz1`> Sux, ?
[01:38] <Sux> 
[01:38] <g0dz1`> Sux, 
[01:38] <mwe> dzinas: you can't sudo echo >
[01:38] <g0dz1`> 
[01:38] <HCl> hmmm..
[01:38] <g0dz1`> 
[01:38] <crimsun> dzinas: incorrect syntax. Instead use: echo -n 1 | sudo tee /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[01:38] <g0dz1`>    
[01:38] <mwe> dzinas: you need to sudo -i to get a root prompt
[01:38] <Sux> it meens what you stupid noob
[01:38] <Badm4n> Ng : may i know where is htb's channel ?
[01:38] <mwe> dzinas: then echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[01:38] <Sux> sorry for my bag enslish
[01:38] <Ng> Sux: g0dz1`: could you speak in regular english ascii please, not whatever bizarre characters you're using? ;)
[01:38] <Sux> sorry for my bag english
[01:39] <HCl> according to google ubuntu's xscreensaver has been custom-hacked to display a better lock screen..
[01:39] <g0dz1`> 
[01:39] <g0dz1`> Sux
[01:39] <Sux> Ng    
[01:39] <Ng> Badm4n: I have no idea, check its homepage for their support offerings
[01:39] <g0dz1`> Sux, 
[01:39] <Ng> Sux: I can't see what that says, and I don't care
[01:39] <Sux> Ng i say it is real good
[01:39] <mwe> dzinas: or sudo su -c 'echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' IIRC
[01:39] <Suxx> hmm
[01:40] <Suxx> pidori
[01:40] <dzinas> thanks
[01:40] <dzinas> ;] 
[01:40] <Suxx> kk
[01:40] <g0dz1`> 
[01:40] <Suxx> la la la
[01:40] <g0dz1`> Ng, I Russian
[01:40] <Suxx> what's happen?
[01:40] <Suxx> Ng where you from?
[01:41] <Suxx> hm stupid ignore
[01:41] <ejofee> which is the metapackage which installs kubuntu on my ubuntu?
[01:41] <g0dz1`> Suxx, How you ? And whence you
[01:41] <ejofee> which is the metapackage which installs kubuntu on my ubuntu?
[01:41] <Ng> ejofee: kubuntu-desktop
[01:41] <g0dz1`> Suxx, fuck
[01:41] <Suxx> g0dz1` hmmm sure?
[01:41] <ejofee> Ng: ohh, right
[01:42] <_jacob> crimsun: looking good so far...still making
[01:42] <g0dz1`> Suxx, we
[01:42] <mwe> crimsun: can you kick Suxx ?
[01:42] <g0dz1`> ,kb
[01:42] <Suxx> o no
[01:42] <Suxx> o my good
[01:42] <Suxx> god
[01:42] <Ng> Suxx: g0dz1`: this is a support channel, if you're not here to ask questions or help people you should be in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:42] <Suxx> Ng sure?
[01:42] <g0dz1`>    
[01:42] <g0dz1`> 
[01:43] <Suxx> Ng go fuck stupid noob
[01:43] <robotgeek> !ops
[01:43] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, johndarkhorse or nalioth.
[01:43] <GhostFreeman> Ok, I was trying to update my system and I got this error
[01:43] <Ng> Suxx: there's no need to be rude
[01:43] <GhostFreeman> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libarkrpgc2_0.1.4b-6ubuntu4_i386.deb:  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libArk.so.0.1.0', which is also in package libarkrpg
[01:43] <g0dz1`> Ng, Well I shall know
[01:43] <GhostFreeman> what's wrong here
[01:43] <crimsun> sorry, I'll fix in a sec.
[01:43] <_jacob> SHIT!
[01:43] <HCl> hah!
[01:43] <HCl> great, that worked :)
[01:44] <_jacob> HCI: define
[01:44] <HCl> apparently it's some bug in xscreensaver that has been fixed in dapper
[01:44] <_jason> GhostFreeman, where did 'libarkrpg' come from
[01:44] <robotgeek> crimsun, Seveas . thanks
[01:44] <_jacob> HCI: wonderful
[01:44] <HCl> i temporarily added dapper to my sources.list and upgraded xscreensaver
[01:44] <_jacob> HCI: ;-)
[01:44] <HCl> thanks for the help :)
[01:44] <_jacob> HCI: anytine
[01:44] <_jacob> n=m
[01:44] <_jason> GhostFreeman, what does 'apt-cache policy libarkrpg' say? (use pastebin)
[01:44] <GhostFreeman> I have no idea
[01:45] <_jacob> crimsun: scan.c: In function `scan_devices':
[01:45] <_jacob> make[4] : *** [bmpx-scan.o]  Error 1
[01:45] <_jacob> make[4] : Leaving directory `/home/jacob/bmpx/src'
[01:45] <GhostFreeman> I was just updating to breezy
[01:45] <crimsun> _jacob: the api changed; it has to be updated. Did you check out trunk?
[01:45] <GhostFreeman> it says:
[01:46] <GhostFreeman> libarkrpg:
[01:46] <GhostFreeman>   Installed: 0.1.4b-6
[01:46] <GhostFreeman>   Candidate: 0.1.4b-6
[01:46] <GhostFreeman>   Version table:
[01:46] <GhostFreeman>  *** 0.1.4b-6 0
[01:46] <GhostFreeman>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[01:46] <_jacob> i just did svn checkout
[01:46] <_jason> GhostFreeman, come on i asked you to use pastebin...
[01:46] <Seveas> ugh
[01:46] <Seveas> stupid people today
[01:46] <mwe> heh
[01:46] <apokryphos> GhostFreeman: do NOT paste in here :)
[01:46] <GhostFreeman> I'm sorry, pastebin is not loading here
[01:46] <chmod775> GhostFreeman, use !pastebin
[01:46] <Syrus> lol
[01:46] <Seveas> then use another one
[01:46] <kemik> GhostFreeman:  use #flood then
[01:46] <chmod775> !pastebin
[01:46] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:46] <_jason> GhostFreeman, then join me in #flood
[01:47] <GhostFreeman> and I have to be at school in about 20 minutes
[01:47] <kemik> Seveas:  maybe make topic more clear ?
[01:47] <_jacob> crimsun: any other ideas?
[01:47] <kemik> and not swamped with stuff
[01:47] <chmod775> come later after school
[01:47] <crimsun> _jacob: I'm sorry, but I don't have to debug the compilation currently. I have a faculty meeting in a few minutes.
[01:47] <crimsun> have time to^
[01:48] <Badm4n> i need bandwidth limiter for client... what is the name of the packaged ( UBUNTU 5.10 )
[01:48] <_jacob> thats ok...man good luck!
[01:48] <_jacob> thanks anyhow
[01:48] <cmot> Yo all!
[01:48] <crimsun> _jacob: I'll do a build after I return, ETA 2hrs.
[01:49] <_jacob> does that mean that i will just apt-get install bmpx and thats it?
[01:49] <cmot> DHCP Q: dhcp.$if.lease is in /var/run and apparently gets cleared after reboot.  Where do I change this? (Preferably by moving the lease file to /var/lib/dhcp3 or so)
[01:49] <crimsun> _jacob: no, we're not going to have BMPx in Dapper.
[01:50] <_jacob> ah ok....then i'll cya l8r...good luck
[01:50] <cmot> (dhcp should remember the lease and should ask for the same IP after reboot)
[01:51] <fcastelo> Hi everyone
[01:51] <_jacob> crimson: btw...if you reccommend a different MP than i am willing to here...this all started because i couldn't put xmms in the dock tray without hiding it in the panel at startup :)
[01:51] <_jacob> here=hear
[01:51] <_jacob> soem bug in xmms
[01:51] <fcastelo> I new on Ubuntu community and I need help to use MS Visio in Breezy. Someone can help me?
[01:52] <_jacob> so anyone else besides crimsun that experimented with BMPx?
[01:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Badm4n: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25911.html
[01:52] <_jacob> fcastelo...look into cxoffice
[01:52] <zoka> hi ubuntus! Where I can find "promo" material? I would like to put ubuntu logo on my blog. Something like "spread the word firefox project"
[01:52] <_jacob> cxoffice=crossover
[01:53] <fcastelo> Yes. Ie already done it. However it's just compatible with Visio 2000 Std.
[01:53] <_jacob> fcastelo...no...the new cxoffice works with 2003
[01:53] <fcastelo> You mean v.5?
[01:54] <_jacob> yeh i think thats it
[01:54] <fcastelo> I've done that too.
[01:54] <_jacob> you have to change your default "whats it called"...to 2000
[01:55] <_jacob> fscastelo: cxoffice/bin/cxsetup
[01:55] <Badm4n> i need bandwidth limiter for client... what is the name of the packaged ( UBUNTU 5.10 ) i need to limit my client that have ip 192.168.1.1-10 and no need limit my client ip 192.168.1.20-30 what is the packaged that suitable for me ? ( not base on eth )
[01:56] <_jacob> Badm4n: look into trickle
[01:56] <Badm4n> trickle ?
[01:56] <fcastelo> Ok. I gona try this. Thanks.
[01:56] <_jacob> yup
[01:56] <cmot> Anybody?
[01:56] <cmot> DHCP Q: dhcp.$if.lease is in /var/run and apparently gets cleared after reboot.  Where do I change this? (Preferably by moving the lease file to /var/lib/dhcp3 or so)
[01:56] <Rocco83> hi.
[01:56] <Badm4n> what is that trickle ?
[01:57] <_jacob> it is a bandwidth limiter
[01:57] <fcastelo> Is that possible to use Visio with the new wine version on Breezy? 0.95?
[01:57] <Rocco83> where "System->Preferences->Removable Drives & Media" point out? i have to disable automount, but i am using kubuntu... or else, where should i go to do it manually?
[01:57] <Badm4n> allrite i'll apt-get install trickle then
[01:57] <_jacob> i use dapper
[01:58] <_jacob> badm4n...i like trickle cause its simple, configurable and to the point
[01:58] <Badm4n> can you tell me where is the .conf ?
[01:58] <junior> ol
[01:58] <Badm4n> /etc/trickled.conf found it
[01:58] <Badm4n> :D
[01:58] <_jacob> man trickle
[01:58] <Badm4n> i forgot to update db
[01:58] <Badm4n> lolz
[01:59] <junior> estou tendo problemas para com wine ser4 que alguem pode me ajudar?
[01:59] <_jacob> "vatos locos forever"
[01:59] <_jacob> ;-)
[01:59] <Badm4n> _jacob, is trickle can set for each client ? i mean like i told b4 .. 192.168.1.1-15 <-- limited ,,,, 192.168.1.20-30 <--- no limited
[01:59] <kemik> !es
[01:59] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:00] <_jacob> can be done aswell
[02:00] <perceptor> Hello
[02:00] <selinium> Any radeon card users about?
[02:01] <_jacob> bad4mn: you also have this "apt-cache search traffic |grep shaper"
[02:01] <selinium> My Radeon Graphics card appears to be working well. But I don't know how to test is it is? :) Any ideas greatfully received!
[02:02] <Badm4n> i have apt-get install shapecfg too
[02:02] <Badm4n> but it's look using devices
[02:02] <Badm4n> not ip's
[02:02] <selinium> Badm4n, I have an article at home on how to set up trickle. But not here. Have you looked for a trickle tutorial?
[02:02] <_jacob> there are many tricks out there to do it by ip's
[02:03] <_jacob> i am pretty sure trickle can to
[02:03] <BradM> whoa
[02:03] <kitty_> hi.. can someone tell me if its possible to add a second hard drive from a windows computor to a linux computor and still retain the data on the disk..?
[02:03] <Badm4n> selinium, i have read man trickle ... and trickle.conf too.. but it looks like not limited the ip bandwidth but the services/the packets
[02:04] <Badm4n> selinium, do you have anything to help me ?
[02:04] <_jacob> kitty_: what file format?
[02:04] <kitty_> fat32
[02:04] <selinium> Badm4n, I'll see what I can find...
[02:04] <Badm4n> selinium, thx b4
[02:04] <_jacob> kitty_: shouldn't be a problem
[02:04] <_jacob> plug, mount, and play
[02:05] <kitty_> cool... ive pluged it in and it recognises the disk but i dunno how to access it...
[02:05] <_jacob> how many disks in total? and are they ide or what?
[02:05] <Badm4n> _jacob i am pretty sure trickle can to <-- how ? can you give me the example .conf ?
[02:05] <kitty_> 2 the new one is deffinatly ide
[02:06] <_jacob> Badm4n: let me see if i can find a conf hold on
[02:06] <Badm4n> _jacob, thx b4
[02:06] <kitty_> but i dont have a clue how to set it up....
[02:08] <_jacob> kitty_: take a look at the disk partitions using fdisk -l /dev/hdb or hda
[02:08] <_jacob> whichever is the disk
[02:08] <_jacob> then:
[02:08] <fcastelo> _jacob...Is that possible to use visio with the latest version of wine? 0.95?
[02:08] <_jacob> kitty_: you should create a dir like /disk2 or something...then mount /dev/hdb1 /disk2
[02:08] <kitty_> ok.. hang on
[02:09] <Badm4n> nvm
[02:09] <C-O-L-T> how to have quick time plugin for firefox ?
[02:09] <_jacob> i use Wine 0.9.4 with cxoffice v5 - visio 2003 no issues !
[02:09] <kitty_> how do i create a directory?
[02:09] <selinium> kitty_,  mkdir
[02:09] <kitty_> thanks
[02:10] <_jason> C-O-L-T, use mplayerplug-in
[02:10] <C-O-L-T> ok
[02:10] <fcastelo> _jacob...Breezy version didn't come with Wine, is that?
[02:10] <C-O-L-T> thanks
[02:10] <_jason> ubotu, tell C-O-L-T about mplayer
[02:10] <_jacob> badm4n...sorry bro...can't find my old conf with that stuff...you are going to have to search google for trickle configuration help
[02:10] <_jason> C-O-L-T, the packageg name is 'mozilla-mplayer' but you'll need to install mplayer first.  Ubotu sent you some info on how to do that.
[02:11] <darkbit> hi
[02:11] <kitty_> ive done all that and its not sed anythin to me... does that mean it didnt work ?
[02:11] <_jacob> fcastelo....apt-get install wine (like i said i am on dapper not breezy)
[02:11] <darkbit> i have a problem with g_object_get
[02:11] <_jacob> kitty_: no looks good
[02:11] <_jacob> cd /disk2
[02:12] <kitty_> cool..
[02:12] <_jacob> ls
[02:12] <_jacob> do you see the files
[02:12] <darkbit> can someone tell me in which package g_object_get is located?
[02:12] <_jacob> kitty ?
[02:13] <kitty_> it says command not found... ive tried it with sudo infront aswell?...
[02:13] <administrador> hello
[02:13] <_jacob> kitty what command?
[02:13] <kitty_> cd /disk2
[02:13] <Badm4n> selinium, any thing ?
[02:13] <_jacob> what did you call the directory were you mounted the hd
[02:13] <_jacob> ?
[02:14] <kitty_> disk2
[02:14] <_jacob> in / ?
[02:14] <selinium> Badm4n, NOt on ip shaping. Can you not run trickle on all the boxes?
[02:14] <kitty_> yeh
[02:14] <_jacob> cd /
[02:14] <_jacob> ls
[02:14] <_jacob> do you see it?
[02:15] <kitty_> iyeh
[02:15] <_jacob> cd disk2
[02:15] <Badm4n> no.. i mean i controll the bandwidth limiter from my gateway server
[02:15] <kitty_> it ses permision denied
[02:16] <_jacob> chmod 775 disk2
[02:16] <_jacob> sudo chmod 775 disk2
[02:16] <mwe> permissions of mount points have no effect
[02:17] <kitty_> it ses.... hmod: changing permissions of `disk2': Read-only file system
[02:17] <mwe> only options to mount do
[02:17] <selinium> Badm4n, I can't help you. Sorry. I need the magazine I have at home.
[02:17] <ejofee> how do i detect an external (usb) hdd in ubuntu?
[02:17] <Robin13> hiya.
[02:17] <Robin13> how to install the Xorg-libraries?
[02:17] <_jacob> kitty can you cd disk2 as root?
[02:17] <mwe> ejofee: check dmesg to see if it's recognized
[02:17] <selinium> DOes it not automatically?
[02:18] <kitty_> hang on
[02:19] <kitty_> i dunno... do i type that into it...
[02:19] <_jacob> kitty_: su -
[02:19] <_jacob> then type in the root passwd
[02:19] <_jacob> the cd /disk2
[02:19] <_jacob> the=then
[02:19] <mwe> _jacob: root doesn't have password in ubuntu
[02:19] <mwe> _jacob: you're supposed to use sudo
[02:20] <mwe> _jacob: sudo -i to get a root prompt
[02:20] <Badm4n> #acl x1 url_regex "/etc/streaming"
[02:20] <Badm4n> #acl x2 urlpath_regex -i "/etc/download"
[02:20] <_jacob> mwest: i always change that :)
[02:20] <Badm4n> what is the different ?
[02:20] <_jacob> sorry :)
[02:20] <Badm4n>  and what is the command to make my squid.conf read /etc/download/ext.acl ? that my ext.acl are the exe zip tar.gz
[02:20] <mwe> _jacob: that defeats basic ubuntu security policy though
[02:21] <kitty_> AFTER TYPING SU- i get a password prompt then i get this msg after enterin my passwrd.. su: Authentication failure
[02:21] <kitty_> Sorry.
[02:21] <mwe> kitty_: use sudo -i
[02:21] <mwe> kitty_: root does not have a password in ubuntu
[02:21] <_jacob> mwest: i know....its my specific purposes
[02:21] <_jacob> mwest: sorry bout that
[02:21] <mwe> kitty_: sudo -i gives you a root prompt
[02:21] <kitty_> ok
[02:21] <Hoxzer> what I can do if I lost system tray cons?
[02:22] <ZiX> guys?
[02:22] <mwe> kitty_: you need to mount disks differently to access it as user
[02:22] <ZiX> how to install the xorg-x11 libs?
[02:22] <kresten> I lost sound in mplayer, after i tryed to upgrade my codecs... Can anyone help?
[02:22] <_jason> Hoxzer, by lost do you mean you removed them or they just magically disappeared?
[02:22] <mwe> kresten: install the old codecs which worked again maybe
[02:22] <_jacob> magically heh
[02:23] <Hoxzer> _jason: I haven't removed them but I don't see them
[02:23] <_jacob> brb
[02:23] <kitty_> when i type sudo -i i get a ROOT pasword promt... wht do i do with it..
[02:23] <ZiX> anyone?
[02:23] <_jason> Hoxzer, you can try 'killall gnome-panle'.  That will refresh the panel
[02:23] <Katie^> mm
[02:23] <kresten> mwe, yeah, well I can't remember where I found it...
[02:23] <Katie^> apple
[02:23] <_jason> Hoxzer, typo, 'killall gnome-panel'
[02:23] <mwe> kitty_: he wanted you to try cd /disk2 as root
[02:23] <Hoxzer> still dont see them
[02:24] <mwe> kresten: pc and breezy?
[02:24] <foresight> Problem: I get "No Symbols Found" when I try to run startx after install. Anyone have a clue?
[02:24] <_jason> Hoxzer, strange, have you restarted X?
[02:24] <pfarmer> ZiX, what are you trying to do?
[02:24] <kitty_> it ses.. /disk2#
[02:24] <selinium> kitty_, put your password in
[02:24] <ZiX> install a KDE style
[02:24] <kresten> mwe, yeah
[02:24] <mwe> kitty_: yeah because root can access anything
[02:24] <kitty_> it dint ask for one
[02:24] <_jason> Hoxzer, if that doesn't work, I would just manually add them back.
[02:24] <mwe> !tell kresten about w32codecs
[02:25] <mwe> kresten: read /msg from ubotu
[02:25] <kitty_> ahh... so does that mean i can see it now.. or do i stil have to set it up to see it on my desktop.
[02:25] <mwe> kitty_: sudo remembers your password for 15 minutes
[02:25] <pfarmer> ZiX, I don't understand why you're needing to install xorg libs for a kde style
[02:25] <mwe> kitty_: mount it properly then
[02:25] <ZiX> hecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[02:25] <ZiX> cuz of that
[02:26] <kitty_> how...
[02:26] <mwe> kitty_: what kind of disk is it what file system I mean
[02:26] <kitty_> FAT32
[02:26] <kitty_> its IDE
[02:26] <_jacob> kitty_: can you see the files if you type: ls
[02:26] <mwe> kitty_: yeah
[02:26] <pfarmer> ZiX: ok so you need the devel packages
[02:26] <ZiX> yup
[02:26] <_jacob> wonderful...mount as mwe explained then shortcut on your desktop
[02:26] <mwe> kitty_: did you edit fstab or just mount from the command line?
[02:27] <_jacob> she mounted from command line
[02:27] <nathan__> i need help getting my wifi to work with this
[02:27] <pfarmer> ZiX: ok try libx11-dev
[02:27] <foresight> Problem: I get "No Symbols Found" when I try to run startx after install. Anyone have a clue?
[02:27] <ZiX> thanks
[02:27] <ZiX> :)
[02:28] <mwe> kitty_: did you edit fstab or just mount from the command line?
[02:28] <kitty_> i havent done a thing.. all ive done is shoved it into the pc.. and pluged it in.. oh and sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /disk2
[02:28] <alexissoft> coucou
[02:28] <lowman62> g'morn room :)
[02:28] <alexissoft> s/coucou/hi/
[02:28] <Robin13> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[02:28] <mwe> kitty_: ok
[02:28] <Robin13> damn..
[02:28] <mwe> kitty_: edit fstab
[02:28] <_jacob> guys....i gotta run...catch ya'll later! be healthy, wealthy, & peaceful
[02:28] <kitty_> ok
[02:28] <mwe> kitty_: what name do you want for the disk?
[02:29] <Robin13> pfarmer: doesnt work
[02:29] <kitty_> at the moment my command line ses...root@ubuntu:/disk2# is this ok .. i think its allready named disk2
[02:30] <pfarmer> Robin13: ok - hang on a sec
[02:30] <gnomefreak> foresight, did you just install X or did you install a desktop enviornment?
[02:30] <foresight> gnomefreak, installed ubuntu to a desktop
[02:31] <mwe> kitty_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[02:31] <mwe> kitty_: read that it has all you need to know
[02:31] <gnomefreak> foresight, did you do a server install or default install?
[02:31] <foresight> gnomefreak, default install
[02:31] <Secreth`X> I plugged in a new cd player in my computer.. but it doesnt show up in "Computer" nor in fstab, what should I do?
[02:31] <kitty_> thanks... before i go ... is it possible to have a different background picture on each of the 4 desktops in gnome
[02:32] <gnomefreak> foresight, and you only have command line?
[02:32] <mwe> Secreth`X: you should check dmesg to see if it's recognized
[02:32] <pfarmer> Robin13: what does the configure error log say?
[02:32] <mwe> Secreth`X: then edit fstab appropiately
[02:32] <Robin13> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[02:32] <mwe> kitty_: I don't know. I kde it is though
[02:32] <foresight> gnomefreak, correct...tried to do the dpgk-reconfigure thing, but didnt help
[02:32] <Secreth`X> mwe, k ill try
[02:33] <gnomefreak> foresight, are you getting any errors when X trys to load?
[02:33] <kitty_> yeh i know.. i have both i just wondered.. thanks anyways... thats the most help ive been able to get for ages..cheers
[02:33] <kitty_> oh yeh.. is it safe to have gnome and kde
[02:34] <gnomefreak> ofcourse kitty
[02:34] <mwe> kitty_: sure
[02:34] <hawking> anyone who has tried 2.6.15 on ubuntu?
[02:34] <foresight> gnomefreak, only thing I get is Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions7libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o" No symbols found
[02:34] <foresight> 3 of those
[02:34] <kitty_> though so.. KDE isnt as good i dont think though.. but its not a big deal
[02:35] <Secreth`X> mwe, they both show up on dmesg.. but both on hdc
[02:35] <afonit> why when the guys at novell take screenshots of their work, they always have ubuntu running, instead of suse?
[02:35] <mwe> Secreth`X: can you pastebin the relevant parts of dmesg please?
[02:36] <gnomefreak> foresight, that error im not sure about im sorry :(
[02:36] <Secreth`X> mwe, of course.. hold on please
[02:36] <foresight> gnomefreak, it seems no-one is :p havent found anything on the ubuntu help sites, or through google =(
[02:36] <Thorondor> .join #movix
[02:36] <Thorondor> arg :)
[02:37] <odat> foresight, something went silly i would just reinstall
[02:37] <gnomefreak> foresight, i would try just to see if it works running sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop :(
[02:37] <Secreth`X> mwe, I hope it is enough, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6959
[02:37] <foresight> odat, I've reinstalled 3 times now :p
[02:37] <gnomefreak> afonit, more than likely they are using suse
[02:38] <odat> foresight, same error everytime?
[02:38] <foresight> odat, yupp
[02:38] <gnomefreak> foresight, it sounds like something isnt installing from cd or loading from cd
[02:38] <afonit> gnomefreak:  they have the ubuntu logo next to 'applications' on the menu
[02:38] <foresight> and I've tried different install options
[02:39] <mwe> Secreth`X: that's really odd
[02:39] <gnomefreak> afonit, ok than maybe they are :) now you know ubuntu is better than suse if suse users are using ubuntu :))
[02:39] <mwe> Secreth`X: I've never seen that before
[02:39] <lowman62> foresight: check in your home directory for .xinitrc do you have this and does it have "exec <somewindowsessiontype>" in it?
[02:39] <mwe> Secreth`X: are the drives setup correctly?
[02:39] <Secreth`X> mwe, that doesnt sound well :s
[02:39] <odat> foresight, what you should do is remove the cd repository from the sources.list then do a sudo apt-get update   then a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:39] <Secreth`X> mwe, yes
[02:39] <mwe> Secreth`X: one is master, the other one slave?
[02:39] <mwe> Secreth`X: on second ide?
[02:40] <Secreth`X> mwe,  iirc yes
[02:40] <takedown> hi
[02:40] <mwe> Secreth`X: please double check the jumpers on the drives
[02:40] <Secreth`X> mwe, jumpers?
[02:40] <mwe> Secreth`X: yes
[02:40] <foresight> odat, where would I find the sources.list file ?
[02:40] <takedown> guys who know how i can downgrade from 64 ubuntu to 32 ubuntu?
[02:41] <gnomefreak> the lil tiny things that go on pins on back of disk
[02:41] <odat> etc/apt
[02:41] <foresight> k
[02:41] <ejofee> is there any menu item which helps me set ubuntu to start kde instead of gnome next time? ubuntu / gnome *menu item*, not gdm or kdm menu item!
[02:41] <mwe> Secreth`X: they should have a little metal thing you can move on the backside
[02:41] <odat> ejofee, in the login screen
[02:41] <Secreth`X> mwe, k ill check, hold on
[02:42] <gnomefreak> ejofee, on the log-in screen choose kde and it will ask if you want it to be default click yes
[02:42] <mwe> Secreth`X: and a drawing showing where it should sit to be slave or master
[02:42] <takedown> i try add binary-i386 to sources.list but apt cant find needed files...
[02:42] <Secreth`X> mwe, ill check it
[02:43] <lowman62> foresight: what happens when you ... startx  <--??
[02:43] <ejofee> odat, gnomefreak: thank you, bu is there's no way to do it from *within* gnome, rather than from the outside (kdm, gdm)?
[02:43] <ejofee> s/bu/but/
[02:43] <foresight> lowman62, it just errors with the "No symbols found" error..
[02:43] <gnomefreak> ejofee, when you installed kde it should have asked you
[02:43] <lowman62> foresight: check in your home directory for .xinitrc do you have this? and does it have "exec <somewindowsessiontype>" in it?
[02:44] <ejofee> gnomefreak: how do i run the kde post-install apt-get script again?
[02:44] <foresight> lowman62, it aint there
[02:44] <takedown> Can some1 help me with my problem?
[02:44] <purplefeltangel> how do i set it so that in firefox, when a link is supposed to open in a new window, it opens in a new tab instead?
[02:44] <gnomefreak> ejofee, not sure are you in gnome now?
[02:45] <pfarmer> takedown: just ask....
[02:45] <lowman62> foresight: that is the problem...apparently you are not the only one I found a discussion thread on that
[02:45] <ejofee> gnomefreak: i chose kdm instead of gdm. does this necessarily mean ubuntu now is using kde?
[02:45] <takedown> guys who know how i can downgrade from 64 ubuntu to 32 ubuntu?
[02:45] <ejofee> gnomefreak: yes, in gnome
[02:45] <odat> purplefeltangel, preferences within firefox
[02:45] <mwe> takedown: reinstalling is probably easiest
[02:45] <takedown> nope
[02:45] <mwe> takedown: then tell me how
[02:45] <gnomefreak> ejofee, log out and log back in changing it to kde instead of gnome
[02:45] <takedown> i want do it only with apt
[02:45] <lowman62> foresight: I am looking at mine to see what you need to do
[02:45] <lowman62> one sec
[02:46] <foresight> k, thanks
[02:46] <mwe> takedown: I'm afraid you can't as changing to 32bit would make your current kernel break
[02:47] <aggressor> hey
[02:47] <odat> sup
[02:47] <gnomefreak> mwe, isnt 32bit kernel installed by default?
[02:47] <aggressor> can u tell me where i can find FAQ for gnome look
[02:47] <mwe> gnomefreak: I don't know
[02:47] <aggressor> themes and
[02:47] <aggressor> shit
[02:47] <lowman62> foresight: did you install breezy ubuntu or kubuntu?
[02:47] <aggressor> ubuntu
[02:48] <takedown> mwe: why i cant do apt-get dist-upgrade and reinstall all packages for 32 bit?
[02:48] <gnomefreak> aggressor, www.gnome-look.org  i think is the site
[02:48] <odat> aggressor, the best damn theme out there for gnome is nuvola   its in synaptic
[02:48] <mwe> gnomefreak: he want't to downgrade from 64bit to 32bit. I don't know how to do that with apt. I doubt it's feasable
[02:48] <foresight> lowman62, breezy ubunty 5.10
[02:48] <mwe> gnomefreak: I you know a way that wont break, please tell takedown
[02:48] <gnomefreak> mwe, even if it is i would go with your first thought as it would be dangerous or atleast could be
[02:48] <lowman62> okay one sec
[02:49] <Set> isn't that like, impossible?
[02:49] <aggressor> i need just hit search in synaptic ?
[02:49] <aggressor> im noob on linux
[02:49] <odat> right
[02:49] <Johnny0> Morning all
[02:49] <mwe> takedown: back up important stuff and reinstall or be doomed
[02:49] <Ribs> Why not just set up a chroot?
[02:50] <Toma-> aggressor: looks for "gnome-art" in synaptic
[02:50] <Johnny0> Heya odat - thanks for all your help the other night
[02:50] <takedown> chroot sucks
[02:50] <gnomefreak> mwe, im sure there is a way but i dont know it and i would prolly stick with 64bit or reinstall ubuntu might be safer that way :(
[02:50] <odat> Johnny0, ???? with
[02:50] <aggressor> Thx
[02:50] <andrei> is there a way to know if my ISP blocks some ports ?
[02:50] <B[u] ZzY> what's better: kde or gnome??
[02:50] <Johnny0> with setting up mediaplayer for my WMA formats
[02:50] <gnomefreak> xfce
[02:51] <takedown> Ribs: did u know how fglrx drivers work on chroot?
[02:51] <odat> Johnny0, ohhh yea thats right no prob
[02:51] <Johnny0> lol
[02:51] <andrei> B[u] ZzY,  gnome is easier and nice looking
[02:51] <Johnny0> anyone in here use the radiomobile software under linux ?
[02:51] <odat> Johnny0, did i get you to switch you theme to nuvola?
[02:51] <ejofee> gnomefreak: thank you
[02:51] <gnomefreak> yw ejofee
[02:51] <anton_> anyone here know how to fix or add video resolutions?
[02:51] <Johnny0> no odat - you didn't
[02:52] <Toma-> B[u] ZzY: try them, both. form your own opinion :)
[02:52] <odat> Johnny0, ohhh kk i had a night of different themes and i realized i had the best one before i started so i'm promoting it lol
[02:52] <Johnny0> lol
[02:52] <B[u] ZzY> ok
[02:52] <takedown> mwe: so i dont want to reinstall :( if i cant downgrade to 32 with apt, i stay on 64...
[02:52] <thegladiator> my memory is up and running , i'd like to get back to gnome . how can I configure my gdm/kdm ?
[02:53] <odat> Johnny0, check it out   its called nuvola   its in synaptic
[02:53] <thegladiator> i'd like to remoe my kubuntu splash and
[02:53] <thegladiator> restore as usual
[02:53] <mwe> takedown: maybe you can. I doub't it can be done safely though
[02:53] <thegladiator> can nyone help me ?
[02:53] <mwe> takedown: hang around and wait for someone who might know how, if it really is possible
[02:54] <Toma-> thegladiator: you need to select GDM as your default display man?
[02:54] <thegladiator> yes Toma-
[02:54] <thegladiator> and not kubuntu, its splash is coming up
[02:54] <Toma-> thegladiator: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[02:55] <Toma-> thegladiator: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-usplash
[02:55] <Toma-> ahhhh
[02:55] <thegladiator> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-usplash
[02:55] <Toma-> thegladiator: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-artwork-usplash
[02:55] <anton_> hey guys, does anyone know how to install new resolutions? I tried editting xorg.conf but nothing is working still
[02:56] <Seveas> !fixres
[02:56] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:56] <odat> anton_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:56] <Toma-> anton_: can you paste your xorg.conf on a pastebin plz?
[02:56] <fischi> hi i have a question.. is it possible to execute automatic a command in xchat in the beginning? like mode +x in quakenet
[02:56] <anton_> I'm actually there right now, but none of the solutions work
[02:56] <kitty_> hi...thank to everyone for directing me to the rite place..that got my drive full of music loaded on to the pc...yey S**T loads of music....the trouble now is.. i still absolutely zero playback... i have all the mp3 codecs ect.. but no sound what-so-ever will come from this pc.... i realy need this to work cos its not worked since i started and its all i realy wanted.. please, if someone can offewr some help i need it.
[02:56] <Toma-> fischi: yep
[02:56] <lowman62> foresight: I keep finding threads about the same problem but not one of them has successfully resolved the issue :(
[02:56] <andrei> vreun roman pe aici ?
[02:56] <thegladiator> brb let me restart and see
[02:57] <foresight> lowman62, so I could just lay down and die basicly ? ;p
[02:57] <Toma-> kitty_: are your volume levels up?
[02:57] <foresight> or find another distro ^^
[02:57] <fischi> Toma-, can u please explain it to me?
[02:57] <anton_> Toma: what is a pastebin?
[02:57] <lowman62> foresight: I would try the install again from scratch...if same prob...another distro like debian maybe LOL
[02:58] <Toma-> !pastebin
[02:58] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:58] <B[u] ZzY> i have kubuntu: how do i switch to ubuntu?
[02:58] <odat> anton_, you have to restart after reconfiguring
[02:58] <foresight> lowman62, already reinstalled 3 times now...so I might as well try something else....Debian or Fedora ?
[02:58] <Toma-> fischi: you want it on connect to a server? or on startup of xchat?
[02:58] <kitty_> yeh.. ive tried all the simple stupind stuff. its gotta be software cos my card works fine and stuff and it shows as playing the music but nothin comes out.. (and yes ive tried the different audio sockets... but thats not to say i wont try again)
[02:58] <fischi> on connect to server
[02:58] <lowman62> foresight: try Debian ;)
[02:58] <odat> B[u] ZzY, i personally would go download ubuntu and reinstall to save space if you not gonna use kde stuff
[02:59] <foresight> lowman62, heh..k..thanks for the help anyway :)
[02:59] <odat> foresight, did you do what i said?
[02:59] <lowman62> foresight: sorry man! bums me out to that I cannot help you :(
[02:59] <foresight> odat, yeah...didnt work
[02:59] <foresight> was up to date
[03:00] <odat> foresight, sudo apt-get reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[03:00] <Toma-> fischi: open up Xchat > Server List > Highlight the server you want, then click Edit... > Then Input it into Connect Command. BUTTTTT, dont put a / in there.
[03:00] <odat> Johnny0, still there?
[03:00] <foresight> odat, got the message it was up to date, then tried startx again,...same problem
[03:00] <Toma-> anton_: pasted your xorg.conf yet?
[03:00] <odat> did you try to install it again or did you reinstall it?
[03:01] <B[u] ZzY> fischi: sei italiano?
[03:01] <lowman62> foresight: yw
[03:01] <foresight> odat, I've tried to reinstall the entire thing 3 times
[03:01] <fischi> Toma-, thx thats right but in really i want to execute two commands...and there is only one possible.. i read that i have to put other commands in a file ..but dunno how and where
[03:01] <takedown> odat: wrong line, need sudo apt-get install --resintall ubuntu-desktop
[03:01] <fischi> no sorry B[u] ZzY :)
[03:01] <odat> takedown, ahhh thanx man
[03:01] <takedown> s/resintall/reinstall
[03:02] <lowman62> foresight: one thing I did see discussed updating the bios...have updated your bios lately?
[03:02] <B[u] ZzY> ragazzi esiste un programma che mi mostra quali cartelle su linux sono piu grandi e quali piu piccole?
[03:02] <foresight> lowman62, not really..tho its a fairly new laptop
[03:02] <lowman62> although that still miffed me
[03:02] <odat> foresight, did you try to reconfigure you xserver?
[03:02] <foresight> odat, the xorg.conf file yeah
[03:02] <Toma-> fischi: you need to set the Connect Command to "LOAD -e /home/fischi/xchatcommands" and put those command in the file
[03:02] <foresight> but I dont see any problems in it
[03:03] <odat> foresight, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:03] <fischi> ok many tanks Toma-
[03:03] <foresight> odat, tried, didnt work :p
[03:03] <lowman62> foresight: what is your laptop...toshiba?? or??
[03:03] <foresight> lowman62, HP Pavilion
[03:03] <Toma-> np ;)
[03:03] <odat> did you get any errors when it was installing??
[03:03] <lowman62> foresight you are not try to dual boot are you?
[03:04] <foresight> lowman62, nope..pure ubuntu..
[03:04] <foresight> odat, no errors while installing...the errors came first when I tried to run X
[03:04] <takedown> foresight: what problem u have?
[03:04] <lowman62> foresight: let me check based on hp pavilion to see if there is something else that can be done...I hate giving up :P
[03:05] <foresight> takedown, "No symbols found" when i try to run x
[03:05] <odat> no one wants to give up because ubuntu is so bad ass
[03:05] <odat> lol
[03:05] <foresight> lowman62, thanks for trying :)
[03:05] <CarinArr> foresight, what sort of problem are you having?
[03:05] <takedown> foresight: can u past here error line?
[03:05] <CarinArr> heh
[03:06] <foresight> takedown; Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions7libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o" No symbols found
[03:06] <lowman62> foresight: is it a HP Pavilion 6630?
[03:06] <foresight> takedown, I get 4 of those
[03:06] <Johnny0> Anyone using wine / visual basic runtime - and a windows application ?
[03:06] <foresight> lowman62, no, 8162
[03:06] <a401> bb
[03:06] <lowman62> ok one sec
[03:07] <takedown> foresight: u have installed video dirvers?
[03:07] <_Otaku_> how can i see which displaydriver is currently used?
[03:07] <vega-> wonder how i'm supposed to report a bug on eclipse when the whole package is not even in the bug tracking system
[03:07] <foresight> takedown, the install found the ATI drivers automaticly
[03:07] <takedown> _Otaku_: glxinfo i think
[03:07] <a401_> hye
[03:07] <a401> hey
[03:07] <_Otaku_> thanks takedown
[03:07] <gnomefreak> vega-, for what ubuntu version?
[03:08] <a401_> thanks man
[03:08] <lowman62> foresight: I found someone with same laptop same prob...they had to turn plugnpray off in the bios and it installed flawlessy
[03:08] <a401_> it was a great pleisure for me
[03:08] <lowman62> might be worth a try
[03:09] <foresight> lowman62, so disable plug'n'play then reinstall ?
[03:09] <takedown> foresight: u configure xorg.conf for drivers?
[03:09] <gnomefreak> vega-, if you are on dapper and trying to install eclipse you can stop its not going to install :(
[03:09] <takedown> foresight: past fglrxinfo here plz
[03:09] <_jason> vega-, https://launchpad.net/malone
[03:09] <vega-> gnomefreak: breezy
[03:09] <lowman62> foresight: yes that resolved it for someone else...but I am still miffed myself by that ...what the heck try it *shrugs*
[03:09] <vega-> gnomefreak: i'm trying to get subclipse working
[03:09] <foresight> lowman62, do you have the link to that thread ?
[03:09] <_Otaku_> oh my.. a huge list comes up when i try glxinfo. where exactly can i see which driver is used :S i'm using an ati mobility radeon 9700
[03:10] <odat> foresight, its probably detecting the wrong graphics card i'm guessing
[03:10] <lowman62> foresight: oops! hold on let me see if I have it in my history
[03:10] <star07> hello...
[03:10] <lowman62> didn't think you were able to browse at the moment sorry
[03:10] <takedown> _Otaku_: if u have ati drivers use fglrxinfo
[03:11] <foresight> odat, as far as I can see from xorg.conf its the right one
[03:11] <_Otaku_> takedown: command not found :(
[03:11] <foresight> odat, and its loaded the right drivers from ATI
[03:11] <takedown> _Otaku_: or glxinfo|grep OpenGL
[03:11] <geone> # join ubuntu-ph
[03:11] <_Otaku_> who?
[03:12] <_Otaku_> ok i did that and it says something about mesa
[03:12] <lowman62> gnomefreak: I found a way to install eclipse...I will tell you about it in a minute
[03:12] <_Otaku_> is that good enough to play games later on?
[03:12] <_Otaku_> i want to get wine installed in the evening and test a few games ^^
[03:12] <gnomefreak> cool ty lowman62
[03:12] <_Otaku_> but i am afraid i need newer drivers
[03:13] <takedown> _Otaku_: if u need a 3D support install fglrx drivers
[03:13] <ccooke> _Otaku_: you need to use fglrx for ATI acceleration
[03:13] <_Otaku_> oh :(
[03:13] <aggressor> hey can some one help me
[03:13] <_Otaku_> how do i do that?
[03:13] <aggressor> ?
[03:14] <ccooke> _Otaku_: the mesa drivers aren't good enough for games - they're software only. No acceleration.
[03:14] <takedown> _Otaku_: u can use instruction for ati drivers on ubuntuforums.org
[03:14] <lowman62> foresight: I closed my browser and I have it set to dump my cache..but I searched it like this in www.google.com/linux using this search string "I am having problems installing ubuntu on my HP Pavilion laptop" was 3 pages in if I remember right
[03:14] <idris> hello
[03:14] <ccooke> !ATI
[03:14] <ubotu> methinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[03:14] <gnomefreak> aggressor, we dont know whats wrong :(
[03:14] <ccooke> _Otaku_: check the link ubotu just gave
[03:14] <_Otaku_> ccooke: takedown: alright thanks for the help :)
[03:14] <lowman62> brb phone
[03:14] <takedown> np
[03:14] <aggressor> i can\t change my menubar look
[03:14] <gnomefreak> hb lockhead
[03:14] <aggressor> if i install new theme
[03:15] <gnomefreak> lowman62,  even :(
[03:15] <aggressor> i only can change icons and bars
[03:15] <aggressor> but ni menu
[03:15] <foresight> lowman62, k, thanks..I'll go look :)
[03:16] <takedown> some1 know here how i can downgrade from 64 to 32 ubuntu with apt(without full reinstall 32 bit version)?
[03:16] <thegladiator> i have asked this before as well , how can I remove the preview of pdf files from nautilus ?
[03:16] <Ng> takedown: afaik that isn't possible
[03:16] <takedown> Ng: why not?
[03:16] <Seveas> takedown, because it's not two versions of the same thing
[03:16] <Ng> takedown: because they are different architectures and apt doesn't support migrating architecture.
[03:16] <Seveas> it's completely different
[03:17] <takedown> :(
[03:17] <takedown> ok
[03:17] <thegladiator> someone knows how I could remove the pdf preview feature ? from nautilus ? it looks bad
[03:17] <thegladiator> since many pdf files are of varying sizes
[03:17] <odat> foresight, you there?
[03:17] <Seveas> thegladiator, -EIMPOSSIBLE
[03:17] <foresight> odat, yeah
[03:17] <thegladiator> impossible ?
[03:18] <thegladiator> darn
[03:18] <thegladiator> so you guys coping with that ?
[03:18] <lowman62> gnomefreak: yt?
[03:18] <Thorondor> i have some problems deleting files on my flashstick... all i get is "rm: cannot remove `file': Read-only file system", even with sudo in front - how can i delete them?
[03:18] <Ng> Seveas: you could nuke the wickle evince tool that does it ;)
[03:18] <gnomefreak> ok lowman62
[03:18] <Seveas> hehe
[03:18] <gnomefreak> wb btw
[03:18] <odat> foresight, did you actually do the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   or did you just play around with xorg.conf   file
[03:18] <foresight> odat, I did the reconfigure
[03:19] <lowman62> gnomefreak: what I did was this...I installed the jdk into /opt then
[03:19] <odat> foresight, do it again and take dri off the list
[03:19] <thegladiator> thats really crazy :))
[03:19] <thegladiator> kde permitted me all such stufs
[03:19] <lowman62> gnomefreak: I put a line pointing to it in my path in my local .bashrc
[03:19] <foresight> odat, k..I'll try
[03:20] <gnomefreak> lowman62,  thats it? what about the mozilla depends?
[03:20] <lowman62> gnomefreak: after I finished installing eclipse I created a custom icon link with this line in it like this
[03:20] <thegladiator> kde konqueror  was like do anything , i am competing with windows explorer :) nautilus is no where near
[03:20] <Seveas> thegladiator, AH
[03:20] <Seveas> found it :)
[03:20] <lowman62> /opt/sun/jdk/bin/java -jar /opt/eclipse/startup.jar
[03:20] <thegladiator> wow temme
[03:21] <kitty_> hi again.. when i type  /etc/apt/sources.list: (with or without sudo) it ses  /etc/apt/sources.list:: command not found
[03:21] <kitty_>     . im pretty woried about that... what can i do
[03:21] <nadia007> morning everyone...  wondering if anyone has install vdr on their ubuntu using apt-get?
[03:21] <Seveas> thegladiator, in gconf-editor: /desktop/gnome/thumbnailers/application@pdf
[03:21] <gnomefreak> i can do that :))
[03:21] <Seveas> just unset 'enable'
[03:21] <MrManu> hello, is the acx111 driver in dapper still present? cant find it :/
[03:21] <Thorondor> kitty_: that is a file, you have to open with an editor. you can't execute it ;)
[03:21] <foresight> kitty_, CD to /etc/apt then pico or vim the file
[03:21] <wezzer-> hello, I found newest version of f-spot in debian site - is it good idea to install it to ubuntu?
[03:21] <Ng> nadia007: the vdr packages are pretty old, I ended up rebuilding the ones at http://www.youmustbejoking.demon.co.uk/progs.sid.html
[03:21] <wezzer-> it's .deb file
[03:22] <gnomefreak> ty lowman62 when im done with updates i will try it and let you know :) ty again
[03:22] <lowman62> now the mozilla thing ...just change the paths to mozilla in the configuration within eclipse...download the html versions of the help files and manually add them in the configuration...because none of that worked for me
[03:22] <_Otaku_> can someone help me a little in PM? i don't get the instructions on that page since my english is not that good
[03:22] <Ng> wezzer-: that's not a good idea, no
[03:22] <lowman62> but now it works flawlessly
[03:22] <aggressor> If I Cant Download Art Manager, That Means I can-t Change My Gnome ?
[03:22] <wezzer-> Ng: luckily I asked first :)
[03:22] <lowman62> ;)
[03:22] <Ng> wezzer-: generally it's not a good idea to mix binary packages from other distros. rebuilding the package from source is more likely to be ok though
[03:22] <gnomefreak> ;)
[03:22] <kitty_> sorry.. i dont understand......(simpletun)
[03:23] <thegladiator> Seveas, is that for dektop only or extends to nautilus ? shud I restart nautilus now ?
[03:23] <Toma-> aggressor: no, it just makes it trickier.
[03:23] <wezzer-> Ng: I have problems with newest f-spot, after compiling it, there is some strange error. Do you have any idea how to get newest f-spot to ubuntu?
[03:23] <nadia007> ng, how did you do that?  I see that packages at the site, can I use those?
[03:23] <thegladiator> killall -9 nautilus ?
[03:23] <lowman62> gnomefreak: let me know how it went ;)
[03:23] <wezzer-> Ng: It has been requested in backports already
[03:23] <gnomefreak> aggressor, no it doesnt mean that you can go right to the site and do it
[03:23] <gnomefreak> i will lowman62 it will prolly be tonight but ill let you know
[03:23] <Ng> nadia007: I doubt they'll work as-is, I downloaded the source packages and rebuilt them. It's not especially straightforward though, unfortuntaely
[03:23] <Seveas> I don't know whether it extends to nautilus
[03:23] <Toma-> whats the colour code for black? #000000?
[03:24] <thegladiator> Seveas, i just did that , bot no marking dif
[03:24] <Seveas> but a restart/or logout+login may help
[03:24] <thegladiator> yes toma
[03:24] <Toma-> rad.
[03:24] <lowman62> gnomefreak: cool! :)
[03:24] <thegladiator> Toma-, white =fffffff
[03:24] <Seveas> thegladiator, existing thumbnails aren't removed perhaps
[03:24] <Toma-> yeh i know that :D
[03:24] <thegladiator> ah
[03:24] <nadia007> ng, so you got the files from www.cadsoft.de/vdr
[03:24] <thegladiator> restartin XXX brb
[03:25] <B[u] ZzY> come visualizzo lo spazio libero su disco?
[03:25] <frans-th> hande/// where r u
[03:25] <fischi> Toma-, strange its not working the commands in the file without the "/"? but tryed both...and get no error message
[03:25] <MrManu> could someone please help me with my acx111 wlan crad on dapper? ^^
[03:25] <Ng> nadia007: no, I used the source debian packages from that youmustbejoking site and built them into .debs
[03:25] <kitty_> Ahh.. i understand now... its a file name not a comand... THANX
[03:25] <_Otaku_> how do i check if i have the linux-restricted-modules package installed?
[03:25] <Ng> _Otaku_: dpkg -l *restricted*
[03:26] <Ng> _Otaku_: lines that start "ii" are installed packages
[03:26] <Toma-> fischi: hmmm. well im not sure. thats what the xchat doc said
[03:26] <aggressor> gnomefreak- 2 i need 2 pay 2 get art manager ?
[03:26] <_Otaku_> Ng: thank you very much
[03:26] <Toma-> fischi: try asking in #xchat
[03:26] <fischi> ok thx :)
[03:26] <nadia007> ng, any suggestions on how I can go about doing the same thing?  A guide that you might of picked up on a site?  I'm not that good at this linux thing yet.. but I'm getting there!
[03:26] <foresight> odat, err...when I try to run the reconfigure now I just get the errormessage that the X server is disabled
[03:26] <probe45> aggressor, nope its free
[03:26] <gnomefreak> aggressor, no its free go to art.gnome.org or www.gnome-look.org
[03:26] <aggressor> but than i need some plugins or what
[03:27] <aggressor> like
[03:27] <kitty_> Does anyone know why my source list wont let me paste into it... ??
[03:27] <probe45> aggressor,  no just install
[03:27] <_jason> kitty_, did you open it with sudo?
[03:27] <Ng> nadia007: unfortuntely there isn't an easy guide for the way I did it (although I am thinking about writing one). There is a site that has a bunch of scripts that download from cadsoft.de and compile for you - I think the site is called VDR Hooch (try googling)
[03:27] <kitty_> no
[03:27] <_jason> kitty_, that's why :)
[03:27] <Toma-> kitty_: you need sudo
[03:27] <kitty_> i coulndt remember how...
[03:27] <aggressor> lol, its difficult 2 install thing
[03:27] <aggressor> s
[03:27] <aggressor> im noob:D
[03:27] <thegladiator> Seveas, guess that was not it:(
[03:27] <Ng> I should really MOTU myself up and make some decent vdr packages for ubuntu, but I'm really short on time atm
[03:27] <_jason> kitty_, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:27] <probe45> aggressor, you could do it with synaptic (make sure you have backports in your apt)
[03:27] <Toma-> !ipod
[03:28] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[03:28] <thegladiator> i killed nautilus and restarted X
[03:28] <thegladiator> still its showing pdf preview!
[03:28] <kitty_> thanx.. is it possible to save a list of source codes in the terminal that i can access when i need them
[03:28] <_jason> thegladiator, maybe it just won't generate new ones, test that out
[03:28] <aggressor> probe45
[03:28] <thegladiator> ah yep _jason
[03:28] <probe45> aggressor, ?? if .deb just dpkg -i file.deb
[03:28] <probe45> aggressor, yes?
[03:28] <aggressor> can u tell me your msn
[03:28] <_jason> kitty_, not sure what you mean
[03:29] <Toma-> aggressor: read this....
[03:29] <Toma-> !info gnome-art
[03:29] <ubotu> gnome-art: (install GNOME themes from art.gnome.org), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.2-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 26 kB, Installed size: 200 kB
[03:29] <aggressor> !info gnome-art
[03:29] <aggressor> lol
[03:30] <Toma-> aggressor: see where it says "universe"??? it means you need to expand the amount of packages synaptic is looking at. you can enable universe by reading this...
[03:30] <Toma-> !universe
[03:30] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:30] <probe45> Toma-, tell him also how to setup univers in source.list because I think he doesn't undersatnd that ;)
[03:30] <probe45> lol beat me to itt :)
[03:30] <Toma-> ;)
[03:30] <kitty_> If im using my terminal.. Can i set a command, that would bring up a list of possible comands and what they do.. (i understand that i would have to create such a list my self) but is it possible cos theres a list of comands if you press esc a few times?
[03:30] <thegladiator> Seveas, did you get the desired effect or ?
[03:30] <nadia007> ng, vdr packages would be nice...  perhaps someday.  Meanwhile I think I will wrestle with this...  Gonna do some reading on hoochVDR site.  Thanks!
[03:30] <thegladiator> does it work only for fresh ones?
[03:31] <Toma-> kitty_: hit TAB 3 times
[03:31] <Ng> nadia007: no probs, hope it all works :)
[03:31] <aggressor> :S
[03:31] <aggressor> it closed
[03:31] <Toma-> kitty_: you dont need all 2000-3000 commands...
[03:31] <aggressor> :S
[03:31] <_jason> kitty_, you can type the beginning of a command and then press tab twice to show the possibilities.  I think your best bet is to have a web page open with the commands.  Once you sue them for a few days you won't need any list.
[03:31] <aggressor> !infognome
[03:31] <ubotu> aggressor: Do they come in packets of five?
[03:31] <Toma-> aggressor: what closed?
[03:32] <probe45> kitty_, first cap of a command + tab
[03:32] <_Otaku_> "Please enter the card's bus identifier" :S
[03:32] <probe45> his chat programm :P
[03:32] <aggressor> irc
[03:32] <Toma-> oic
[03:32] <gnomefreak> Toma-, thats one long script she would be writing for 3000 commands :(
[03:32] <Toma-> !universe
[03:32] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:32] <aggressor> im 2 stupyt for irc 2 :D
[03:32] <kitty_> cool... thats a big list.... ill do that then... nice
[03:32] <Toma-> kitty_: what are u trying to do?
[03:32] <probe45> lol I hope you have a fast computer kitty_
[03:32] <aggressor> ak
[03:33] <_jason> kitty_, you can take a look at the 'apropos' command (read 'man apropos'), but generally searching the web will give you better/clearer results.
[03:33] <lowman62> kitty_: you can also ask ... whatis <commandname> or better yet... man <commandname> and read the man pages on that command
[03:33] <gnomefreak> i like that tab trick :) hit y it jumps a page hit enter goes one by one :))
[03:33] <lowman62> gnomefreak: ya it pipes through more
[03:34] <gnomefreak> <<gonna spend all day playing with that now ty
[03:34] <lowman62> lol
[03:34] <probe45> lol
[03:34] <stjepan> hello
[03:34] <probe45> hi[
[03:34] <gnomefreak> :)
[03:34] <kitty_> Cool... But no matter what (even if i spend years usin this terminal I WILL ALWAYS NEED THAT LIST... thanx
[03:34] <_jason> does anyone know of a way to somehow pipe the output of the double tab list to some file?
[03:34] <Toma-> _jason: what on earth would you need that for?
[03:35] <_jason> Toma-, nothing, I jsut want to know if it is possible
[03:35] <Toma-> _jason: you could "ls /bin && ls /sbin blahblahblah"
[03:35] <gnomefreak> kitty_, write down the most important command that you use daily (i do that) :)
[03:35] <foresight> odat, I removed "dri", still dont work :/
[03:36] <_jason> Toma-, nice trick, thanks
[03:36] <_jason> Toma-, didn't really work like that, but I get the idea
[03:37] <Toma-> _jason: you can find out what /bin/sbins are used with "env | grep PATH"
[03:37] <warpforge> I'm trying to remember the package name for a tool that allows you to list the branches of the aptitude package tree you want, and it removes unneeded packages
[03:37] <aggressor> Toma : I get error when i downloaded universe
[03:37] <Toma-> _jason: it would be "ls /usr/bin >> list"
[03:37] <Toma-> aggressor: what error?
[03:38] <xester> good day
[03:38] <aggressor> couldt downlaod repository indexses
[03:38] <Toma-> aggressor: you sure you added it correctly?
[03:38] <warpforge> try a different repository mirror
[03:38] <selinium> _jason,  ls /bin > ~/Desktop/doubletabs.txt && ls /sbin >> ~/Desktop/doubletabs.txt      :)
[03:38] <warpforge> But the US repos are working fine for me
[03:38] <aggressor> yeah
[03:39] <aggressor> i went in  synt.. settings
[03:39] <aggressor> than settings
[03:39] <Toma-> ....why do i even bother.
[03:39] <warpforge> What error do you get when you "sudo apt-get update"?
[03:39] <aggressor> and universe and i click ok
[03:39] <_jason> Toma-, selinium: so I would grep those for '^beginningofcommand' before outputting right?
[03:39] <allison_1984> anyone using nicotine ?
[03:39] <probe45> aggressor,#sudo echo "deb http://dk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:40] <probe45> aggressor, #sudo apt-get update
[03:40] <warpforge> I'll install nicotine if you'd like, allison
[03:40] <aggressor> with that command i can install deb files >
[03:40] <probe45> aggressor, #sudo apt-get install "package name"
[03:40] <aggressor> or what
[03:40] <allison_1984> warpforge: how sweet !
[03:40] <kitty_> to be honest my girlfriend RULES at the terminal... i dunno what it is but shes got the knack for it.. (memory like an eliphant)... i think the moral is if you wanna be good at usin the terminal DONT SMOKE POT
[03:40] <warpforge> "sudo dpgk -i <.deb>"
[03:40] <warpforge> sorry
[03:40] <warpforge> "sudo dpkg -i <.deb>"
[03:40] <Toma-> kitty_: and keep out of help channels when youre stoned :)
[03:40] <_jason> kitty_, unless you are trying to be good at smoking pot, then it might be required
[03:40] <selinium> _jason: I came into the middle of this one, I am not entirely sure what you are trying to do! :)
[03:41] <_jason> selinium, I get the idea, thanks :)
[03:41] <probe45> aggressor, nope it sets the univers into your sources ilist
[03:41] <grant_> Hey, I have a question about ubuntu's stock openssh package.. does it differ in any way from regular openssh?
[03:41] <kitty_> not realy.. im trying to be god at remembering.... pots not to good for that
[03:41] <probe45> with apt-get update you activate it
[03:41] <allison_1984> warpforge: I have it running already, just wanted to know how to tweak it to get better download speeds
[03:41] <kitty_> good not god...
[03:41] <probe45> and with  apt-get install "package name" you install the package
[03:41] <selinium> _jason   > pipes to a file  >> appends to a file
[03:42] <stjepan> anyone here has ATI Radeon?
[03:42] <Toma-> allison_1984: you behind a router?
[03:42] <allison_1984> Toma: yes
[03:42] <warpforge> allison: what speeds are you getting?
[03:42] <warpforge> and have you port-forwarded?
[03:42] <Toma-> selinium: >> still works fine with a touch'ed file...
[03:42] <dirkvdbroek> Hello, what is the status of the fglrx problems on ubuntu? I have tried all fixes from the wiki, but I keep getting problems, and it seems they are known without solutions?
[03:42] <allison_1984> warpforge: 0 kB/s
[03:42] <selinium> Toma-, indeed! :)
[03:42] <Toma-> allison_1984: have you got any ports open for it?
[03:43] <Toma-> selinium: so no real need for > :)
[03:43] <allison_1984> warpforge: was coming to port forwarded part
[03:43] <warpforge> dirk: are you using power-saving modes like standby?
[03:43] <warpforge> allison: alright.
[03:43] <warpforge> allison: are you familiar with the concept of NAT and port-forwarding?
[03:44] <allison_1984> Toma: in my prefs I have the port ranges from 10,000 to 60,000...sometimes I used to get edecnt speeds, now its just 0 kB/s
[03:44] <dirkvdbroek> warpforge, no, it is a desktop machine
[03:44] <allison_1984> warpforge: I'm behing a nat in fact....but well, tell me about this port forwarding...I have some ideas
[03:44] <warpforge> allison: Have you configured port forwarding for that port range?
[03:44] <dirkvdbroek> mintly installed, the first thing I tried was getting the fglrx stuff working
[03:45] <Toma-> allison_1984: are there enough sources on the file your downloading?
[03:45] <warpforge> dirk: what kernel are you on?
[03:45] <dirkvdbroek> I know my bit around the system, but I don't know how to diagnose this.
[03:45] <allison_1984> warpforge: no,
[03:45] <dirkvdbroek> ehm, let me check
[03:45] <allison_1984> Toma: in fact one seeder...one measly seeder
[03:45] <aggressor> bash: Hit: command not found
[03:45] <aggressor> aggressor@ubuntu:~$ Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages
[03:45] <aggressor> bash: Hit: command not found
[03:45] <aggressor> aggressor@ubuntu:~$ Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Sources
[03:45] <aggressor> bash: Hit: command not found
[03:45] <Toma-> :/
[03:45] <aggressor> aggressor@ubuntu:~$ Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/main Packagesbash: Hit: command not found
[03:45] <warpforge> allison: first, you should reduce the port range. yours is WAY too big
[03:45] <dirkvdbroek> 2.6.12-10-386
[03:45] <aggressor> aggressor@ubuntu:~$ Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/restricted Packages
[03:45] <aggressor> bash: Hit: command not found
[03:45] <Toma-> eeeeeeeeep
[03:45] <aggressor> aggressor@ubuntu:~$ Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/main Sources
[03:45] <aggressor> bash: Hit: command not found
[03:45] <aggressor> aggressor@ubuntu:~$ Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary-updates/restricted Sources
[03:45] <aggressor> bash: Hit: command not found
[03:45] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: what's the exact problem you're getting?
[03:45] <allison_1984> warp: Iwhat ranges should I try ?
[03:45] <aggressor> aggressor@ubuntu:~$ Fetched 17.0kB in 6s (2628B/s)
[03:45] <aggressor> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[03:46] <aggressor> aggressor@ubuntu:~$ Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] /dists/hoary/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[03:46] <thoreauputic> quiet aggressor
[03:46] <Toma-> ok, who told him to execute sources.list? :/
[03:46] <aggressor> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[03:46] <aggressor> aggressor@ubuntu:~$ Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] /dists/hoary/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[03:46] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, no 3d accel, nothing
[03:46] <allison_1984> agrresor: use pastebin
[03:46] <thoreauputic> aggressor: NEVER paste like that
[03:46] <warpforge> allison: use only about 10-20 ports
[03:46] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, I used your xorg.conf yesterday
[03:46] <probe45> aggressor, remove the cd option out the sources.list
[03:46] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: can you post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log? You know where the pastebin is, right?
[03:46] <dirkvdbroek> but no go -
[03:46] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, could you give me the adress again? :)
[03:47] <warpforge> dirk: i didn't catch your kernel config
[03:47] <dirkvdbroek> 2.6.12-10-386
[03:47] <thoreauputic> aggressor: next time you are out of here
[03:47] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: odd. That config is working on (to my knowledge) four desktops and three laptops, all different makes...
[03:47] <allison_1984> warpforge: somewhere I read that for bittorrent downloads...6800 - 6988
[03:47] <aggressor> probe45 im so noob i cant understand
[03:47] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: sure.
[03:47] <ccooke> !paste
[03:47] <ubotu> I guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:47] <probe45> aggressor, whats your msn?
[03:47] <dirkvdbroek> not an irc regular
[03:47] <aggressor> aggressor89@hotmail.com
[03:47] <Toma-> aggressor: DONT execute your error commands.
[03:47] <warpforge> dirk: You should probably install the 686 kernel first
[03:47] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: ... if I recall correclty, it looked like it may be AGP problems, right?
[03:48] <dirkvdbroek> yes
[03:48] <xbox_sky> hi! could someone help me please, with an install of ATI drivers
[03:48] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: you could try blacklisting the agp modules
[03:48] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, I actually did taht
[03:48] <allison_1984> warpforge: but can I not find this efficient range depending on my seeder
[03:48] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: so hotplug won't load them
[03:48] <dirkvdbroek> yes, and now it uses the internal agp, wich goes reportedly fine
[03:48] <warpforge> allison: if your port range it too large, it will probably crash your router when you port forward
[03:48] <xbox_sky> i'm trying to install the drivers ./ati-driver-installer-8.20.8-i386.run: line 273: cd: fglrx-install: No such file or directory
[03:48] <xbox_sky> , right after I selected the package it gives me an error "no such file"
[03:48] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: I've actually seen as many problems with the internal agp code as with the linux code - I prefer to use the linux code.
[03:49] <ccooke> xbox_sky: do you have a reason to use the 8.20.8, or would the version in ubuntu do?
[03:49] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, to my knowledge, that should not really be the problem - on slackware I used the internal without problems - I have the idea it's elswere, seeing the posts on the wiki
[03:49] <allison_1984> warpforge: the default range always worked before..anyway....should I do the port forward in my terminal then ?
[03:50] <dirkvdbroek> justa minute, the machine has no Keyb. so I have to scp the Xorg.0.log to the net ;)
[03:50] <xbox_sky> ccoke, actually I don't now, I tried to launch America's army yesterday, and it give me an error about X11 or something I'm not sure, so I thought my drivers were obsolete or something
[03:50] <Secreth`X> my second cd player doesnt show up in /media, nor in "Computer", nor in fstab, my dmesg shows both the cd players on /hdc and I dunno what to do so one is /hdc and the other is /hdd, suggestions? (PS I dont know wich one is the slave but the one I had before only shows up in my BIOS the other dont)
[03:50] <xbox_sky> give = gave
[03:50] <ejofee> is there any simple way (like apt-get) to make most movies (divx, xvid, etc.) work in ubuntu (mplayer, kaffeine)?
[03:50] <darkbit> checking for g_object_get... no
[03:50] <warpforge> allison: having a huge port range will work fine without port forwarding, but most residential routers crash when you try to configure them to forward thousands of ports
[03:50] <darkbit> can you please tell me which package i need
[03:51] <allison_1984> warpforge: I just worried that my lone seeder would disappear
[03:51] <xbox_sky> "Choose "Generate distribution specific packages" and "Ubuntu" and the Ubuntu version you use"
[03:51] <warpforge> hmmm
[03:51] <xbox_sky> Right after I picked "ubuntu" it complains about no such file etc
[03:51] <dirkvdbroek> ok, it shoudl be in the pastebin by now
[03:51] <_jason> Is it possible to tunnel sound through ssh?
[03:52] <guillem101> _jason, I think so
[03:52] <allison_1984> warpforge: well, I will try to port fwd; in any case is there a way to undo it after ?
[03:52] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, I do notice a lot of this:
[03:52] <dirkvdbroek> (II) fglrx(0): doing DRIScreenInit
[03:52] <dirkvdbroek> drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
[03:52] <dirkvdbroek> drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (Unknown error 999)
[03:52] <dirkvdbroek> drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (Unknown error 999)
[03:52] <dirkvdbroek> ( sorry for flooding)
[03:52] <_jason> ubotu, tell dirkvdbroek about pastebin
[03:52] <warpforge> allison: what type of router are you using?
[03:52] <allison_1984> warpforge: its a nat
[03:53] <allison_1984> warpforge: hurricane 8800
[03:53] <dirkvdbroek> _jason, sorry, pointing out something in a huge text ;)
[03:53] <warpforge> allison: i mean brand/model
[03:53] <apricot> how to stop mysql server?
[03:53] <allison_1984> warpforge: hurricane 8800/ prolink
[03:53] <tahorg> dirkvdbroek: modprobe fglrx
[03:53] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: please post the whole file to the pastebin
[03:54] <warpforge> allison: use your "reverse mapping" under "advanced NAT" setting
[03:55] <warpforge> allison: do you know the IP address of your computer?
[03:55] <_Otaku_> how do i find out my video card's bus identifier?
[03:55] <allison_1984> warpforge: I think so
[03:55] <Secreth`X> my second cd player doesnt show up in /media, nor in "Computer", nor in fstab, my dmesg shows both the cd players on /hdc and I dunno what to do so one is /hdc and the other is /hdd, suggestions? (PS I dont know wich one is the slave but the one I had before only shows up in my BIOS the other dont)
[03:55] <warpforge> allison: well, you're welcome to try forwarding the huge range you use to your computer
[03:56] <takedown> _Otaku_: lspci
[03:56] <dirkvdbroek> cola.looze.net/Xorg.0.log
[03:56] <CanadianSnow> hey... how do I get scrips and stuff? Im on XChat
[03:56] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, it didn't fit.
[03:56] <warpforge> allison: just be prepared to reset your router if it goes kaputt
[03:56] <_Otaku_> i did that
[03:56] <allison_1984> warpforge: ouch....
[03:56] <Secreth`X> CanadianSnow, check xchat website
[03:56] <dirkvdbroek> tahorg, fglrx and agpgart are loaded
[03:56] <_Otaku_> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: <<< is that the identifier then?
[03:56] <guillem101> _jason, not actually tried but: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6961
[03:57] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: ... you do have the fglrx module loaded, right?
[03:57] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: modprobe | grep fglrx?
[03:57] <warpforge> allison: resetting usually isn't that bad. at most, you'll return it to the factor config and have to input the DSL account settings
[03:57] <warpforge> factory*
[03:57] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: er. lsmod | grep fglrx
[03:57] <CanadianSnow> where would that be at?
[03:57] <takedown> _Otaku_: hm, i have a normal identifier
[03:57] <warpforge> allison: actually, let's try something else first
[03:57] <_Otaku_> what is "normal" @ takedown
[03:57] <allison_1984> warpforge: looks like I would have to call the adsl people then....but like if I change the prot range in the prefs, wouldn't that make any difference ?
[03:57] <takedown> _Otaku_: not a vga :)
[03:58] <allison_1984> port
[03:58] <takedown> 0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AP [Radeon 9600]  (Secondary)
[03:58] <_jason> guillem101, thanks, I'll mess around with it
[03:58] <warpforge> allison: you shouldn't have to call the ADSL people, even if you crash the router
[03:58] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, yes
[03:58] <_Otaku_> i dont understand :(
[03:58] <gnomefreak> that is the bus identifyer the 000:01:00.1 but i dont think you need the first 4 0000
[03:58] <_Otaku_> i only want to update driver and was following the instructions given on that site
[03:59] <warpforge> allison: all port forwarding does is take incoming requests to a certain port and send it all the way to your computer
[03:59] <guillem101> _jason, If you success, please let me know :-)
[03:59] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: could you put 'dmesg | grep fgrlx' into the pastebin, please?
[03:59] <warpforge> allison: the port number is like dialing an extension when you call an office
[03:59] <_jason> guillem101, sure :)
[03:59] <apricot> how to restart mysql server?
[03:59] <allison_1984> warpforge: ok
[03:59] <takedown> _Otaku_: u already install fglrx?
[03:59] <Secreth`X> so noone has an idea?
[03:59] <takedown> apricot: /etc/init.d/mysqld restart
[04:00] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, ok there it is
[04:00] <dirkvdbroek> mttr problems
[04:00] <infernall> Is it possible to ssh to a remote server, and redirect console output to the monitor attached to the server?
[04:00] <apricot> how to shutdown mysql-server?
[04:00] <warpforge> Secreth: have you tried sudo mounting your second drive?
[04:00] <allison_1984> <-- reading up about port forwarding...
[04:00] <dirkvdbroek> is that enabled in 686 kernels?
[04:00] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: ... where?
[04:00] <_Otaku_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI <<< i am at step 3 and did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:00] <takedown> apricot: kill him
[04:00] <Secreth`X> warpforge, like mount /dev/hdd ?
[04:00] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: you need to give us a URL :-)
[04:00] <allison_1984> warpforge: thanks all the same :)
[04:00] <_Otaku_> didn't really understand step 2
[04:00] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, oh, it's in the pastebin
[04:01] <dirkvdbroek> [4296483.076000]  [fglrx:firegl_addmap]  *ERROR* mtrr allocation failed (-22)
[04:01] <warpforge> allison: you should know that port forwarding won't necessarily fix your problem
[04:01] <apricot> how, please?
[04:01] <gnomefreak> to load scripts in X-chat is in x-chat up at top of window
[04:01] <warpforge> allison: it could be other factors on the network
[04:01] <takedown> apricot: man kill
[04:01] <warpforge> Secreth: yes, like mount /dev/hdd, but with a target
[04:01] <allison_1984> warpforge: point taken :)....prolly the lack of seeders
[04:02] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: not seen *that* one before...
[04:02] <Secreth`X> warpforge, mount /dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 ?
[04:02] <takedown> apricot: kill <mysqldaemon pid>
[04:02] <warpforge> allison: often P2P networks do unprioritize people with no forwarded ports
[04:02] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, well, I'm having a quite standart 5.10 install
[04:02] <warpforge> Secreth: one sec
[04:02] <OgMaciel> Seveas, ping
[04:02] <dirkvdbroek> the only thing I have installed is... codecs for the mp3 player
[04:02] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: ... are you using the VGA framebuffer?
[04:02] <OgMaciel> \sh, how are you?
[04:02] <foresight> I can't access the sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg command..it just exits right away.
[04:03] <\sh> OgMaciel: fine...and 35 :)
[04:03] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, I guess that's how ubuntu is showing it's fancy bootlogo?
[04:03] <OgMaciel> \sh, today?
[04:03] <\sh> OgMaciel: yes :)
[04:03] <Secreth`X> warpforge,  k
[04:03] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: no, that's VGA
[04:03] <Secreth`X> \sh, congrats
[04:03] <OgMaciel> \sh, wow!  Congrats my friend!!!
[04:03] <dirkvdbroek> ok, well I see a lot of vesafb stuff loaded!
[04:03] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: sorry - have you *Changed* any framebuffer settings?
[04:03] <dirkvdbroek> no
[04:03] <OgMaciel> \sh, ... and many moooore!  ;)
[04:03] <\sh> thx :)
[04:03] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, I have not changed my framebuffer settings
[04:03] <warpforge> Secreth: http://www.slackbook.org/html/filesystem-structure-mounting.html
[04:03] <dirkvdbroek> they're the default
[04:04] <warpforge> Secreth: the linked page has an example of mounting a cdrom
[04:04] <allison_1984> :(
[04:04] <thegladiator> i was having a fault mem  and had few many problems on gnome . hows gnome on ur systems ? stable ?
[04:04] <warpforge> Secreth: Just be aware that ubuntu mounts media to /media
[04:04] <_Otaku_> !pastebin
[04:04] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:04] <thegladiator> frankly and honsetly is it better than XP in terms of stability ? gnome i mean ?
[04:05] <OgMaciel> \sh, if you ever come to the US, you have got to give a presentation at my group...  ;)
[04:05] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, ok there's output of lsmod on the pastebin: vesafb as you can see. is there a grub option to load vga=normal?
[04:05] <warpforge> gladiator: GNOME is not as stable as command-line utilities
[04:05] <Secreth`X> warpforge, I will, thanks for the help.. what do I need to do if it doesnt solve my problem?
[04:05] <thegladiator> warpforge, yes can understand that . but compared to XP or KD ?
[04:05] <warpforge> Secreth: have you verified that the problem isn't hardware?
[04:05] <thegladiator> how stable is gnome ?
[04:06] <trappist> thegladiator: about 13
[04:06] <thegladiator> my corrupted mem was killing me on gnome and I had to find refuge in KDE
[04:06] <Blippe> stable enough for freebsd?
[04:06] <warpforge> gladiator: I've found GNOME's metacity components to be somewhat unstable for VFS operations
[04:06] <thegladiator> trappist, being funny ?
[04:06] <trappist> thegladiator: yes
[04:06] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: no, it defaults to that.
[04:06] <Secreth`X> warpforge, I dont know wich hardware could cause this problem..
[04:06] <thegladiator> trappist, good one then
[04:06] <Secreth`X> which, even
[04:06] <thegladiator> ah i see
[04:06] <warpforge> Secreth: I mean, does any other OS see the drive and mount it?
[04:06] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, well, if I kill X and start xinit from the console I can read:
[04:07] <dirkvdbroek> (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_EBUSY"
[04:07] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: There is a very similar error (but unfortunately slightly different) that people get if they have a VESA framebuffer as well as the fglrx drivers
[04:07] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, I have seen this error on the wiki to with no resolution
[04:07] <Secreth`X> warpforge, ubuntu is the only OS on this computer..
[04:07] <dirkvdbroek> damn.
[04:07] <Itz> Got problem with plugins in opera (breezy)  Could not start plug-in executable 'operamotifwrapper'.
[04:07] <Itz> /usr/lib/opera/plugins/operamotifwrapper-3
[04:07] <Itz> Please install Motif.
[04:07] <Itz> Been searching on universe as well but cant find any :(
[04:07] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: can you add the output of 'cat /proc/mtrr' ?
[04:08] <felipe_> Hello, anyone uses Ruby? or Ruby on Rails?
[04:08] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, ha, no: cat: /proc/mttr: No such file or directory
[04:08] <thegladiator> i am considering ptting gnome for this cafe that I run . would you recommend ? I dont wanna lose informations . any one ehr running office app's on gnome without problems ?
[04:08] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: ahhh...
[04:08] <warpforge> Secreth: Same here. I only use Ubuntu. Have you tried mounting it yet?
[04:08] <warpforge> Do this:
[04:08] <warpforge> sudo mkdir /media/cdrom1
[04:08] <warpforge> sudo mount -t iso9660 -o ro /dev/[device]  /media/cdrom1
[04:08] <takedown> Itz: motifnls - Files needed to run some Motif applications
[04:09] <allison_1984> Itz: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76236&highlight=opera+motif
[04:09] <gnomefreak> Itz, look for mozilla motif or openoffice motif
[04:09] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, so, no mttr's loaded, shouldn't they be enabled in the kernel?
[04:09] <Itz> takedown,  have installed that as well allready
[04:09] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: they are, yes.
[04:09] <probe45> now first a coffee :)
[04:09] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: they're enabled in the standard kernel
[04:09] <ejofee> is there any simple way (like apt-get) to make most movies (divx, xvid, etc.) work in ubuntu (mplayer, kaffeine)?
[04:09] <dirkvdbroek> I have the 386 kernel
[04:09] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: that should be fine anyway
[04:09] <dirkvdbroek> I think it is the one that was installed off the cd
[04:09] <Secreth`X> warpforge, [device]  can be?
[04:09] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: although you may want to try the 686 of k7 kernel
[04:09] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell ejofee about restricetedformat
[04:09] <dirkvdbroek> no, it had one update - minor number changed
[04:09] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell ejofee about restrictedformat
[04:10] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, yes, but it shouldn't differ that much
[04:10] <warpforge> ejofee: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:10] <thegladiator> ubotu, tell ejofee about restricted format
[04:10] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ejofee about restricted
[04:10] <Sp4rKy> hi
[04:10] <ejofee> thegladiator: thanks a lot
[04:10] <trae> gnomefreak, is there not a decent GTK based mp3 player out there?
[04:10] <trae> heh
[04:10] <ejofee> gnomefreak: thank you
[04:10] <thegladiator> oh gnomefreaj :)
[04:10] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, it is the "xf86_EBUSY"
[04:10] <dirkvdbroek>  error
[04:10] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: actually, they can - especially if it's support of tricky bits of hardware. I know of some devices that will not work on *particular* laptops with, say, the k7 kernel, but will with the 686...
[04:10] <gnomefreak> yw ejofee
[04:10] <thegladiator> trae, noatun ?
[04:10] <trae> heh
[04:10] <gnomefreak> :)
[04:10] <warpforge> Secreth: /dev/[device]  for your would seem to be /dev/hdd
[04:10] <Secreth`X> ah ok :)
[04:10] <Sp4rKy> what's is the command to see sockets opened and process which uses it ?
[04:11] <trae> thegladiator, that's like, ummm QT based isn't it?
[04:11] <gnomefreak> trae, i dont do music on linux
[04:11] <sproingie> i'm sick of my isp's wonky dns and want to run a nameserver on my own box.  any recommendations?
[04:11] <apricot> my xchat does not list servers in user mode.
[04:11] <thegladiator> trae, not sure thought its GTK based . its QT based ?
[04:11] <allison_1984> warpforge: that must be the most popular web link
[04:11] <warpforge> Secreth: if that works, i'll tell you how to make to automatic
[04:11] <_jason> trae, have you tried BMP?
[04:11] <Secreth`X> warpforge, it returns this mount: special device /dev/hdd does not exist
[04:11] <gnomefreak> trae, i would assume mplayer
[04:11] <Secreth`X> so it doesnt work
[04:11] <trae> _jason, yes.... it's ok...
[04:11] <thoreauputic> trae: totem, rhythmbox, quodlibet
[04:11] <trae> I can't remember why I stopped liking it..
[04:11] <gnomefreak> apricot, click xchat at top and click servers is that what you are looking for?
[04:12] <warpforge> Secreth: what do you get from:
[04:12] <warpforge> cd /dev/
[04:12] <warpforge> ls | grep hd
[04:12] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, I'll give it a try then ( sigh)
[04:12] <Itz> allison_1984, seems like that will solve my problem. ill try now bbl ;)
[04:12] <thegladiator> best mp3 player so far I have found is xmms and amarok , none based on gt though
[04:12] <MohShami> hey guys, I just finished installing kubuntu for the first time, but I can't seem to get the nvidia driver to work, it is loaded but won't be used, can someone help me fix this?
[04:12] <Secreth`X> hda
[04:12] <Secreth`X> hda1
[04:12] <trae> I've tried:  totem, Rhythmbox, bmp, bmpx, others...
[04:12] <Secreth`X> hda2 hda 5
[04:12] <Secreth`X> and hdc
[04:12] <_jason> thegladiator, bmp is a nicer xmms basically
[04:12] <thegladiator> trae,  do a synaptic seach for gtk,mp3!
[04:12] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell MohShami about nvidia
[04:12] <apricot> the list is empty when i start xchat
[04:13] <thegladiator> i see. shud try that then . _jason , what about speed aspects ?
[04:13] <Sp4rKy> nobody knows ?
[04:13] <warpforge> Secreth: hda is your hard disk. hdc is another IDE device, probably one of your CD drives
[04:13] <allison_1984> Itz: all the best, I have been tryign from there to install opera plugins since long
[04:13] <Secreth`X> warpforge, yes, HDC is the one that already was in this computer before
[04:13] <MohShami> gnomefreak: already tried that but it didn't work
[04:13] <warpforge> Secreth: how is your second CD drive connected?
[04:14] <Secreth`X> warpforge, what do you mean by that?
[04:14] <_jason> thegladiator, runs fine, I don't think I've ever had any speed problems with an mp3 player though (maybe the load up times vary)
[04:14] <warpforge> Secreth: Is it slave on the second IDE channel?
[04:14] <gnomefreak> MohShami, what about it didnt work?
[04:14] <MohShami> gnomefreak: x won't use it
[04:14] <Secreth`X> warpforge, thats another problem, im not that good on hardware, so I really dont know which one is second en which one is master..
[04:15] <warpforge> Secreth: when you boot your computer, does it show both CD drives?
[04:15] <factotum> dangit, im trying to convice my boss to let me run linux on my system, he isn't saying no, but isn't saying yes yet...grrr!!
[04:15] <gnomefreak> MohShami, did you configure xserver to use it after you installed it?
[04:15] <Secreth`X> warpforge, nope, only the one before
[04:15] <warpforge> Secreth: you may have to press a key to show the bootup data
[04:15] <_jason> factotum, show him the live cd
[04:15] <MohShami> gnomefreak: changed the xorg.conf file to use the driver nvidia instead of nv
[04:15] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, ok then, out with the 386, in with the smp kernel.
[04:15] <warpforge> Secreth: This is a hardware install issue if your BIOS can't see the second CD drive
[04:16] <Secreth`X> warpforge, you cant help me with the issue?
[04:16] <probe45> Secreth`X,  first ide-device (master=hda / slave=hdb) second ide-device (master=hdc / slave=hdd)
[04:16] <factotum> _jason, i have. He thinks its pretty neat but i dont understand what his hangup is yet.
[04:16] <warpforge> Secreth: Is your new CD drive on the same cable as your other CD drive?
[04:16] <Secreth`X> warpforge, same IDE cable? yes
[04:16] <Secreth`X> probe45, its all except the second slave
[04:16] <warpforge> Secreth: Have you set your new drive's jumpers to "slave"?
[04:17] <Secreth`X> warpforge, I dont know how :/
[04:17] <_jason> factotum, wait for everyone's machine to be affected by the next windows virus (shouldn't take too long) and then continue to do you work on ubuntu :)
[04:17] <dirkvdbroek> by the way, is there a way to 'openup' .deb packages without installing them?
[04:17] <dirkvdbroek> I need one to transplant a config file
[04:17] <Ng> dirkvdbroek: yes, they're actually just tarballs
[04:17] <dirkvdbroek> on my slackware box
[04:17] <Ng> err, wait, no
[04:17] <warpforge> Secreth: You'll need to shut down your computer first, so I can talk to you on the phone if you'd like
[04:17] <Ng> they sort of are
[04:17] <dirkvdbroek> I tried tar -zxvf -ing them
[04:17] <Secreth`X> warpforge, you live in?
[04:17] <Dr_Willis> dirkvdbroek,  i think mc can view the contents of them
[04:18] <probe45> warpforge, most "new" ide devcies have the option cable select so master and slave are not needed anymore (erm but master/slave handeling is better with old config ;) )
[04:18] <factotum> _jason, I did sneak it on my laptop here hehe, no one knows it yet. Not like anyone else ever uses it
[04:18] <dirkvdbroek> Dr_Willis, only mc on debian  not on slack :)
[04:18] <warpforge> probe: CS might not be set on this other drive
[04:18] <warpforge> his*
[04:18] <Ng> dirkvdbroek: use dpkg-deb -x
[04:18] <Secreth`X> warpforge, you live in?
[04:18] <Prozac> anybody able to help me setup identd with a user defined reply?
[04:18] <warpforge> Secreth: what does "live in" mean?
[04:18] <Secreth`X> where do you live?
[04:18] <warpforge> Oh, Austin
[04:18] <factotum> Im not even doing any graphic design work anymore, they scooted me over to hacking away at markup and such
[04:19] <warpforge> But I have free long distance through the US
[04:19] <Secreth`X> thats gonna be hard.. I live in belgium
[04:19] <warpforge> ah
[04:19] <_jason> factotum, well you can look nito using freenx.  That's what I do.
[04:19] <Secreth`X> wait a minute.. Ill come here on another computer
[04:19] <Secreth`X> hold on
[04:19] <warpforge> Secreth: okay
[04:19] <melonipoika> hi guys, has someone installed network simulator in ubuntu?
[04:19] <dirkvdbroek> Ng, thanks
[04:19] <warpforge> meloni: what's the package name?
[04:20] <factotum> ah well, it will happen eventualy I guess. For today though I've decided to be useless. I have about 4 hours worth of actual work to do for the rest of the week, they dont know that though har har
[04:20] <melonipoika> ns-allinone-2.29
[04:20] <factotum> only 6 1/2 more hours to go....ugh
[04:20] <warpforge> meloni: I don't see it in the repos
[04:20] <melonipoika> i get this error: "configure: error: Installation of tcl seems incomplete or can't be found automatically."
[04:21] <melonipoika> i read that it can be a problem of path, but i have no idea how to solve it
[04:21] <warpforge> meloni: how did you install it?
[04:21] <melonipoika> ah, it is not, i downloaded it, it is source
[04:21] <warpforge> oh
[04:21] <melonipoika> it has an install script
[04:22] <warpforge> meloni: do you know what TCL version it needs?
[04:23] <warpforge> meloni: there's tons of TCL in to repos, but i wouldn't recommend installing it ALL
[04:23] <_jason> factotum, http://www.nomachine.com/screenshots1.php, and speed is amazing... it's like you're on your own pc
[04:23] <melonipoika> moemnt, please
[04:23] <melonipoika> tcl: /usr/lib/tcl8.4
[04:23] <melonipoika> tcl: /usr/lib/tcl8.4
[04:23] <melonipoika> if i do whereis tcl, i get this: "tcl: /usr/lib/tcl8.4"
[04:24] <melonipoika> uy sorry
[04:24] <warpforge> meloni: is the program looking for tcl8.4?
[04:24] <melonipoika> how can i install all?
[04:24] <Itz> allison_1984,  when running apt-get it said: couldnt find package: openmotif      -  So still same problem :(
[04:24] <warpforge> meloni: sudo apt-get install tcl8.3 tcl8.0 (etc)
[04:25] <melonipoika> and for tclsh8.4.11
[04:25] <Secreth`X> warpforge, Ill be here soon
[04:25] <melonipoika> ah, thanks
[04:25] <factotum> _jason, nice, I actually am on my home pc right now, well from here at work anyways
[04:25] <warpforge> meloni: I'm on Dapper, but I only see TCLs 8.0, 8.3, and 8.4
[04:26] <apricot> where is firefox executable located?
[04:26] <melonipoika> yes, in the repo it is not either
[04:26] <thoreauputic> apricot: /us/bin/firefox
[04:26] <thoreauputic> *usr
[04:26] <warpforge> apricot: ask your friendly bash prompt: "whereis firefox"
[04:26] <probe45> apricot, /usr/bin
[04:27] <melonipoika> ok, i think i will try to check network simulator web page more deeply then
[04:27] <probe45> warpforge, locate works better ;)
[04:27] <melonipoika> thanks for your help, warpforge
[04:27] <theine> warpforge, or which
[04:27] <warpforge> probe: yeah, if you want 100s of lines
[04:27] <_jason> apricot, use 'which firefox'
[04:27] <Secreth`X> warpforge k
[04:28] <warpforge> Secreth`X: is your other PC shut down?
[04:28] <thoreauputic> actually ' type firefox ' is the most efficient ...
[04:28] <Secreth`X> warpforge shutting down
[04:28] <apricot> ok, i am in local firefox and when i click on phpmyadmin he does not open it, but wants to save it on disk, what should i do?
[04:29] <thoreauputic> "type' is a shell built-in
[04:29] <Secreth`X> warpforge its shut down
[04:29] <warpforge> apricot: are you running phpmyadmin through the PHP engine?
[04:29] <sas171> apricot: access it throw localhost
[04:29] <warpforge> Secreth`X: touch the case to kill and static, turn off the power switch on your power supply, and unplug the power
[04:30] <warpforge> and -> any
[04:30] <sidnei> hi, anyone having trouble with /dev/input gone missing on dapper?
[04:30] <warpforge> sidnei: input is fine for me on dapper
[04:31] <apricot> i clickon the directory phpmyadmin in firefox, but it does not open
[04:31] <sidnei> odd, my /dev suddenly is all screwed up, including permissions
[04:31] <_jason> If I have a chain of symlinks: a-> b -> c, is there a command that I can run (passing 'a' as an argument) that will tell me it ends up at 'c'.  I've tried reading 'man ls' and though the switches dealing with 'dereferencing' would do it, but they don't actually tell me where it ends.
[04:31] <warpforge> apricot: you must access phpmyadmin through localhost
[04:31] <sidnei> like /dev/null not being world-writeable
[04:31] <Secreth`X> warpforge done
[04:31] <apricot> how
[04:31] <warpforge> Secreth`X: open your case and remove the IDE cable from your CD drives
[04:32] <Secreth`X> both?
[04:32] <sas171> apricot: try to type localhost/phpmyadmin what are you seeing?
[04:32] <warpforge> apricot: it's something like http://localhost/, but with the right port number and directory
[04:32] <warpforge> Secreth`X: yes, off both drives
[04:32] <Secreth`X> ok
[04:32] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, I still have no mttr??
[04:32] <dirkvdbroek> 2.6.12-10-686-smp
[04:32] <warpforge> Secreth`X: we need to check jumpers on both
[04:32] <apricot> nothing
[04:32] <dirkvdbroek> mvhenten@dhcppc0:~$ cat /proc/mtrr
[04:32] <dirkvdbroek> reg00: base=0x00000000 (   0MB), size=983552MB: write-back, count=1
[04:33] <Secreth`X> warpforge so I need to screw them loos?
[04:33] <Katie^> okay
[04:33] <Katie^> help
[04:33] <Katie^> my cd rom wont open?
[04:33] <warpforge> Secreth`X: probably
[04:33] <dirkvdbroek> I don't have anywhere near that amount of ram.
[04:33] <sas171> apricot: just white pagein firefox/
[04:33] <Katie^> it opened a while ago
[04:33] <xst> Can I somehow boot the ubuntu harddisk installation in runlevel 1 (requirering NO root password)?
[04:33] <sas171> ?
[04:33] <Katie^> and now it wont
[04:33] <apricot> the dialog apperars: what should firefox do with this file!!!
[04:33] <warpforge> katie: you need to right-click your CD drive in gnome and click "unmount"
[04:33] <Secreth`X> warpforge I need to pull out the power things?
[04:34] <warpforge> Secreth`X: you don't have to
[04:34] <Secreth`X> warpforge k
[04:34] <warpforge> Secreth`X: we just need to check that your old drive's jumper is set to "master"
[04:34] <warpforge> Secreth`X: and your new one is "slave"
[04:34] <Katie^> where's that
[04:34] <sas171> apricot: seems like you are accessing it throw firefox filebrowser...
[04:34] <thoreauputic> xst: recovery mode
[04:34] <warpforge> Katie: Open the "Places" menu and click "Computer"
[04:35] <Katie^> cheers
[04:35] <Katie^> lol
[04:35] <apricot> and, what should i do?
[04:35] <Katie^> i was panicking :0
[04:35] <Jazzmaztazz> anyone can help me ? i have a problem with the vol8men control it dont work , the error said that he didnt found any diapositive , but the strange think is that i can listening music an all
[04:35] <warpforge> Katie: get it working?
[04:35] <thoreauputic> xst: unless you've set a root password that is
[04:35] <Secreth`X> warpforge where do I see if it is master or slave?
[04:35] <Katie^> yes, thanks, but the thing is, i dont know why the dvd wont work
[04:35] <_jason> in case anyone else is interested, 'readlink -f /path/to/link' will "display the value of symbolic link"
[04:35] <allison_1984> Itz: you need the opera deb sources..
[04:35] <xst> I set a root password so I need to start in single-user mode...
[04:35] <xst> That is: runlevel 1
[04:35] <warpforge> Katie: linux disables your drive open button when the drive is mounted
[04:35] <sas171> apricot: can you paste the url you are using here/
[04:35] <sas171> ?
[04:35] <Katie^> Error invoking "dvdnav_get_next_block": Error reading from DVd < means nothing to me, lol
[04:36] <Katie^> same with xine
[04:36] <warpforge> Secreth`X: there's usually a label on your drive saying what jumper setting is master, etc
[04:36] <thoreauputic> xst: recovery mode *is* runlevel 1
[04:36] <warpforge> Secreth`X: there's not a standard
[04:36] <apricot> paste it where?
[04:36] <Secreth`X> warpforge ok.. I found some plugs where it shows master and slave
[04:36] <thoreauputic> xst: if you know the root password you will be fine, if not you need to boot "linux single"
[04:36] <apricot> http://localhost/phpmyadmin
[04:36] <sas171> apricot: just here that i can see it
[04:37] <xst> how do I boot "linux single"?
[04:37] <warpforge> Secreth`X: whatever drive is on the end the IDE cable, you should set to master
[04:37] <monzie> hi all
[04:37] <warpforge> xst: linux single?
[04:37] <DaleStan> The Ubuntu 5.10 LiveCD will not work for me. I have verified the MD5-sum of the ISO, burnt two CDs, and tried to boot two different computers.
[04:37] <DaleStan> Both boots die at the same time: when "Retreiving dhcp-client-udeb". What I assume is the standard error message appears: "There was a problem reading data from the CD-ROM ..." Retrying does not work.
[04:37] <DaleStan> Checking the CDs' integrity reports the same corrupt file on both CDs: ./pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/acpi-modules-2.6.12-9-386-di_2.6.12-9.23_i386.udeb
[04:37] <DaleStan> What's the appropriate next step?
[04:37] <apricot> i have also http://localhost/apache2-default/ wich is working fine.
[04:37] <thoreauputic> xst: I never needed to - but from the grub shell I think
[04:37] <Secreth`X> warpforge there is no switch or something :s
[04:37] <Secreth`X> there just are some plugs
[04:38] <warpforge> Secreth`X: yes
[04:38] <warpforge> Secreth`X: whatever two pins the little jumper piece connects is what your drive is set to
[04:38] <sas171> apricot: doublecheck your phpmyadmin config... your autentication type should be http
[04:38] <Katie^> who can i paste to?
[04:39] <_jason> ubotu, tell Katie^ about pastebin
[04:39] <Secreth`X> hmm
[04:39] <Secreth`X> the new drive is set to "cable select"
[04:40] <Katie^> its like 3 lines
[04:40] <warpforge> Secreth`X: set the drive you want on the far end of the IDE cable to "master"
[04:40] <warpforge> Secreth`X: set the drive in the middle of the cable to "slave"
[04:40] <apricot> where do i check that
[04:40] <Secreth`X> ok
[04:42] <Secreth`X> ah
[04:42] <Secreth`X> I get it
[04:42] <Secreth`X> warpforge the old one was the master, but it was on the middle of the IDE, the new one was cable select but it was on the end of the IDE
[04:42] <warpforge> Secreth`X: that would do it
[04:43] <warpforge> Secreth`X: I always recommend using explicit master and slave settings
[04:43] <Secreth`X> yea
[04:43] <warpforge> Secreth`X: And a little-known tip: the red mark on the IDE cable always goes toward the power connector
[04:44] <Katie^> where's the sources list again? etc/?
[04:44] <_jason> Katie^, /etc/apt
[04:44] <Katie^> ty
[04:44] <Secreth`X> warpforge K I had totally no expirience with hardware
[04:44] <warpforge> Secreth`X: That's alright. There's a reason this stuff doesn't exist anymore in SATA.
[04:45] <warpforge> Secreth`X: What you did also has no risk of damaging the hardware.
[04:45] <Secreth`X> warpforge ?
[04:45] <warpforge> Secreth`X: yes?
[04:46] <gorski> i cannot record myself on the mic
[04:46] <Secreth`X> warpforge: no i mean, what do you mean? ;p
[04:46] <warpforge> Secreth`X: Serial ATA has no concept of master and slave devices anymore
[04:47] <Secreth`X> ah
[04:47] <warpforge> Secreth`X: Serial ATA is what's replacing what you have
[04:47] <eazel7> hi
[04:47] <warpforge> eazel: Guten Mogen
[04:47] <warpforge> Morgen*
[04:47] <Secreth`X> and that could danage hardware?
[04:47] <warpforge> no
[04:47] <Secreth`X> damage
[04:47] <Secreth`X> lol
[04:47] <warpforge> Secreth`X: what you did cannot damage hardware
[04:48] <Secreth`X> ah ok :)
[04:48] <Gridblock> hey all. Why is XMMS just stalling when i try to play a mp3 track?? the play button is kinda "stuck" and the XMMS window wont move
[04:48] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: did you get it fixed? (sorry, had work to do)
[04:48] <Katie^> bbl
[04:49] <warpforge> Secreth`X: you should be able to re-screw-in your drives, reconnect the IDE cable, close the case, plug it in, switch on the power supply, and boot up now
[04:49] <noone> hello
[04:49] <noone> some one talk to me
[04:49] <warpforge> noone: hi
[04:49] <noone> please
[04:49] <_jason> Gridblock, have you selected the correct output?
[04:49] <noone> hi
[04:49] <Secreth`X> warpforge yea Im still screwing ;o
[04:49] <noone> i am new here
[04:49] <Gridblock> _jason, i dont know. :S
[04:49] <_jason> ubotu, tell noone about ask
[04:49] <Secreth`X> warpforge I need to fix something first (I put my RESETSW in the wrong position ;))
[04:50] <warpforge> Secreth`X: k
[04:50] <_jason> Gridblock, go to options -> preferences.  on the bottom you can choose 'output plugin'.  I assume mp3 playback works on other apps like totem?
[04:50] <warpforge> Secreth`X: if you hook your RESETSW into the slave connection on your new drive, you can have your second CD drive only show up on boot if you hold down "reset"
[04:51] <warpforge> Secreth`X: that's a joke. don't do it.
[04:51] <Secreth`X> lol
[04:51] <Secreth`X> I wont
[04:51] <Gridblock> _jason, ok thanks. i just want to make XMMS my defult music track player
[04:51] <Gridblock> bbl
[04:51] <_jason> Gridblock, so that worked?
[04:51] <warpforge> gridblock: you should check out beep-media-player instead
[04:52] <warpforge> gridblock: or muine
[04:52] <Guardian> hi
[04:52] <warpforge> gridblock: XMMS is pretty obsolete
[04:52] <Ng> muine is largely unmaintained afaik
[04:52] <warpforge> I use beep
[04:53] <tech9iner> moin uMates.. any mates using motorola cellphones can recommend best data cable app / phone tools for use on kubuntu please?.. thanks mates..
[04:53] <_jason> Gridblock, I use beep as well, it's basically a better xmms
[04:53] <noone> hi eve5ry body
[04:53] <noone> can someone help me
[04:53] <noone> i am new here
[04:53] <noone> please!!!
[04:53] <noone> i need help
[04:53] <warpforge> gridblock: you can set the default player for a format by right-clicking on a file of that format, going to properties, and setting the program to use on another tab
[04:53] <_jason> noone, ask a question
[04:53] <noone> ok
[04:54] <noone> ty
[04:54] <noone> hmmm
[04:54] <noone> are you useing linux
[04:54] <_jason> !enter
[04:54] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[04:54] <Gridblock> warpforge, thank you so much
[04:54] <noone> hello
[04:54] <noone> anyone
[04:54] <warpforge> nooone: ask a question or please stop posting
[04:54] <noone> can some one help me with linux
[04:54] <noone> ok
[04:55] <warpforge> noone: what do you want to do?
[04:55] <_jason> noone, you're going to have to be more specific.  Just state your problem.
[04:55] <noone> does anyone useing linux?
[04:55] <takedown_> nope
[04:55] <Ng> noone: everybody here is using ubuntu, just ask your question
[04:55] <Gridblock> how do i get into the ui after i do ctrl+alt+backspace ?
[04:55] <takedown_> we all using windows :)
[04:55] <Ng> Gridblock: alt-f7
[04:55] <Gridblock> ng, thanks
[04:55] <noone> who is useing ubuntu
[04:55] <pome> Ubuntu is the best distro
[04:55] <tech9iner> noone: hello?.. ahem.. you are in #ubuntu..
[04:55] <Ng> Gridblock: if it hasn't restarted by itself, run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" after logging in to the console
[04:55] <pome> mostly because wifi just works
[04:55] <warpforge> Ng: gridblock left
[04:56] <trappist> noone: please PLEASE just skip ahead to your question
[04:56] <Ng> warpforge: ah well, his loss
[04:56] <Ng> I have joins/parts filtered out here
[04:56] <Ng> makes the channel much more readable
[04:56] <administrador> fala
[04:56] <administrador> hkj
[04:56] <administrador> hekko
[04:56] <administrador> hello
[04:56] <noone> so
[04:56] <administrador> hi
[04:56] <administrador> hih
[04:57] <warpforge> administratador: do you have a question?
[04:57] <noone> i have i question
[04:57] <_jason> administrador, stop
[04:57] <_jason> noone, ask it
[04:57] <administrador> brazilian
[04:57] <noone> can anyone tell me the commands for ubuntu - terminal
[04:57] <_jason> !pt
[04:57] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[04:57] <_jason> ubotu, tell noone about cli
[04:57] <_jason> noone, ubotu has sent you a private message with some information
[04:57] <Secreth`X> warpforge GREAT now my bios found it.. now lets hope the same for ubuntu
[04:58] <tech9iner> !mobile phone
[04:58] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, tech9iner
[04:58] <warpforge> Secreth`X: we probably still have to configure fstab
[04:58] <tech9iner> !cellular
[04:58] <ubotu> tech9iner: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:58] <tech9iner> lol
[04:58] <tech9iner> !phone
[04:58] <ubotu> tech9iner: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:58] <_jason> ubotu, tell tech9iner about msg the bot
[04:58] <guillem101> _jason, how do I check ubotu messg?
[04:58] <guillem101> !msg
[04:58] <ubotu> please don't /msg people or start a personal message/ dcc chat without asking first in channel. People might be busy, and you have a better chance of an answer in the channel. Don't assume a particular user will be able to help you.
[04:58] <tech9iner> thanks _jason ;] 
[04:59] <_jason> ubotu, tell tech9iner about msg the bot
[04:59] <warpforge> ubotu, tell warpforge about msg the bot
[04:59] <guillem101> !msg the bot
[05:00] <Gridblock> muine music player wont play the tracks :S
[05:00] <_jason> guillem101, what client are you using for irc?
[05:00] <trappist> Gridblock: mp3?
[05:00] <warpforge> gridblock: try beep-media-player
[05:00] <guillem101> Xchat
[05:00] <Gridblock> trappist, yes
[05:00] <trappist> !tell Gridblock about mp3
[05:01] <warpforge> gridblock: beep-media-player is a drop-in replacement for xmms
[05:01] <_jason> you can just click on the rectangle that says 'ubotu' on the bottom
[05:01] <noone> i need help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:01] <noone> who is useing ubuntu????????
[05:01] <warpforge> noooe: do you want to get kicked?
[05:01] <eth42> haha
[05:01] <warpforge> noone: ask a question
[05:01] <trappist> noone: we are all using ubuntu.  ask a question or stop posting.
[05:01] <warpforge> noone: a real one, not "who is using ubuntu in #ubuntu"
[05:01] <_jason> noone, can you stop asking that?  ask a question about a specific problem.  If you want to chat go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:01] <jbroome> noone: first suggestion, fix your keyboard.  there seems to be something wrong with your puncuation keys
[05:02] <noone> why?
[05:02] <pome> I think noone is a cyborg
[05:02] <_jason> noone, because this is a support channel
[05:02] <Gridblock> trappist, thanks
[05:02] <thoreauputic> noone: behave or you will be kicked
[05:02] <Secreth`X> warpforge k Im ready, /dev/hdd isnt in fstab :x
[05:02] <pome> what's 'are you a cyborg?' in binary?
[05:02] <gorski> why
[05:02] <noone> omg how can i be kicked
[05:02] <gorski> ?
[05:02] <tech9iner> someone please send the noone the noob on irc info..
[05:02] <noone> yea
[05:02] <iantec> where can i make a folder where all users can acces freely and even add files into it? i eman how to do it
[05:03] <eth42> I lost my entry for the ubuntu dvd in /etc/apt/sources.list. how should it look like?
[05:03] <thoreauputic> like that
[05:03] <warpforge> Secreth`X: go to /dev and run "ls | grep hd" for me again
[05:03] <Secreth`X> ok
[05:03] <Secreth`X> hdd is there
[05:04] <warpforge> Secreth`X: great :-)
[05:04] <Ng> iantec: I'd suggest putting it in /home/ - so something like "sudo mkdir /home/public" to make it and "sudo chmod 777 /home/public" to give all users full access to it
[05:04] <warpforge> Secreth`X: now run "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[05:04] <thoreauputic> tech9iner: it was only a kick - he can return if he wants :)
[05:04] <Secreth`X> ok its open
[05:04] <noone> i am back people
[05:04] <noone> i need help
[05:04] <noone> remember
[05:04] <warpforge> Secreth`X: okay. copy the line with hdc (your existing cd drive) onto a new line
[05:05] <tech9iner> any linux mobile phone tools for ubuntu please mates.. [gotit thoreauputic ;] ] .. no worries here.. just teasing observation here ;] ] 
[05:05] <warpforge> Secreth`X: modify the line to refer to your new cd drive
[05:05] <thoreauputic> noone: then ask an intelligent question or be silent please
[05:05] <warpforge> Secreth`X: is that clear?
[05:05] <eth42> I lost my entry for the Ubuntu DVD in /etc/apt/sources.list. I tried it (without success) with:
[05:05] <eth42> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 i386] / breezy main restricted
[05:05] <thoreauputic> !tell noone about ask
[05:05] <noone> i need some commands for terminal!!!
[05:05] <Secreth`X> warpforge so hdc becomes hdd and /media/cdrom0 becomes cdrom1
[05:05] <Secreth`X> ?
[05:05] <Katie^> okay what's the best player to watch dvds
[05:05] <Katie^> xine's a pain
[05:05] <meuserj|work> eth42, apt-cdrom add
[05:05] <warpforge> Secreth`X: yes, and open another terminal
[05:06] <thoreauputic> noone:  http://tuxfiles.org
[05:06] <trappist> noone: which commands.  there are thousands.
[05:06] <Gridblock> trappist, so now every player supports mp3?
[05:06] <eth42> meuserj|work: thanks!
[05:06] <tech9iner> actually.. xine has been great for 4 yrs now here Katie^
[05:06] <meuserj|work> eth42, np
[05:06] <_jason> noone, http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[05:06] <warpforge> Secreth`X: i forgot to have you make the media entry for your new disk
[05:06] <allison_1984> Katie: mine works fine with oKle
[05:06] <trappist> Gridblock: most of them
[05:06] <warpforge> Secreth`X: you don't have to close what you're working on
[05:06] <Secreth`X> ok
[05:06] <tech9iner> moin trappist
[05:06] <trappist> tech9iner
[05:06] <Secreth`X> warpforge other terminal is open
[05:06] <phreak97> my monitor runs 1280x960 70Hz happily, but i know it autodetects as 1280x960 60Hz max.. its the same in windows, only windows lets you choose unsupported refresh rates
[05:06] <Katie^> tech9iner, it's slow, shes talking and her mouth isn't moving, and ive done everything that website asks for
[05:07] <warpforge> Secreth`X: when you put something in fstab, it needs a directory in the filesystem tree to bind to
[05:07] <phreak97> how can i tell ubuntu to run 70Hz?
[05:07] <eth42> Katie^: I use totem with totem-xine. that's fine
[05:07] <noone> a je gdo slovenc slucajn tuki gor
[05:07] <warpforge> Secreth`X: so go to /media and "sudo mkdir cdrom1"
[05:07] <trappist> phreak97: you can choose any resolution/refresh rate configured in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:07] <Secreth`X> ok
[05:07] <noone> naj odgovori
[05:07] <thoreauputic> noone: english here please
[05:07] <Katie^> okies, ill try those thanks
[05:07] <warpforge> would a mod please ban nooone?
[05:07] <phreak97> trappist, i dont know how to add refresh rates to it
[05:08] <trappist> phreak97: it should become apparent once you open it
[05:08] <Secreth`X> warpforge done
[05:08] <trappist> phreak97: of course you have to open it as root
[05:08] <thoreauputic> noone: you are gagged until further notice
[05:08] <warpforge> Secreth`X: okay. save your fstab
[05:08] <Secreth`X> ok
[05:08] <warpforge> Secreth`X: and one more step
[05:08] <phreak97> trappist, yeah, i've looked before, but i didnt see anything relating to the refresh rate
[05:08] <warpforge> Secreth`X: run "sudo mount -a"
[05:08] <Katie^> thanks allison it seems to be fine now
[05:08] <warpforge> Secreth`X: it reloads your fstab entries
[05:08] <Secreth`X> ok done
[05:09] <warpforge> you should have a working /media/cdrom1 now
[05:09] <trappist> phreak97: you're looking for a Modeline
[05:09] <Secreth`X> hehe lets try
[05:09] <Ng> trappist: almost no x configs have modelines these days
[05:09] <allison_1984> Katie: with oKle ? heh....
[05:09] <gorski> is there another webbrowser?
[05:09] <warpforge> Secreth`X: putting it in fstab also means it will reload the change every boot
[05:09] <gorski> istead of firefox
[05:09] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, you in there?
[05:09] <Katie^> okle, mhm
[05:09] <Ng> phreak97: you probably want to add the horiz/vert refresh ranges your monitor supports, to the Monitor section of the xorg.conf
[05:09] <warpforge> gorski: try epiphany
[05:09] <trappist> Ng: heh, guess I'm stuck in the 90s.  how does one configure an arbitrary refresh rate then?
[05:10] <Shouryuu> Hello everyone, I want to ditch my dear old windows for ubuntu, but I'm failling miserably =( I feel totaly retarted, but I can't even manage to put the ubuntu ISO on a CD...  I've downloaded ISORecorder as suggested on the web site, try to copy to cd but I immediately get a "generic error". I've tried redownloading ubuntu, but I get the same problem with the second file, I've reinstalled the IsoRecorder, tried on different CDs, but I stil
[05:10] <Secreth`X> ah ok warpforge
[05:10] <allison_1984> gorski: opera
[05:10] <Ng> trappist: generally if you tell X the real ranges your monitor can do it will present the ones you want
[05:10] <Secreth`X> warpforge GREAT it works :D
[05:10] <Secreth`X> Immo gonne kiss u O_O
[05:10] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: yes?
[05:10] <Secreth`X> imma*
[05:10] <gnomefreak> gorski, yes a bunch w3m,links,epmpithy <spelling is off>
[05:10] <warpforge> Shouryuu: you can take advantage of ubuntu "ship it"
[05:10] <trappist> Shouryuu: cdrecord -dev=/dev/hdc -dao -speed=24 filename.iso (if hdc is your cd burner)
[05:10] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, I found a lead on the problem:
[05:10] <dirkvdbroek> it's sort of bios/hardware related
[05:11] <warpforge> Shouryuu: they will send you an Ubuntu ISO for free
[05:11] <gnomefreak> mozilla browser opera
[05:11] <Gridblock> There. no my music players work fantastic :D
[05:11] <Shouryuu> Thanks I'll try that :P
[05:11] <trappist> Ng: but that's not arbitrary.  what if I want to try an unsupported refresh rate?
[05:11] <tech9iner> good luck Shouryuu
[05:11] <allison_1984> warpforge: I got shipments from canonical  last year after I installed from the iso :)
[05:11] <Guardian> how can i know the uid associated to my account ?
[05:11] <Ng> trappist: I'm not sure you should want to do that, but you'd have to create a modeline
[05:11] <trappist> Guardian: `id`
[05:11] <phreak97> trappist, theres no such modeline
[05:11] <Gridblock> is shipit.ubuntulinux.org still working?
[05:12] <Shouryuu> warp - Thanks =P
[05:12] <Ng> phreak97: you probably want to add the horiz/vert refresh ranges your monitor supports, to the Monitor section of the xorg.conf
[05:12] <warpforge> allison: did you figure out your nicotine problem?
[05:12] <phreak97> !pastebin
[05:12] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:12] <dirkvdbroek> need to 'fix' mtrr settings - mine were pointing at 9 gb of memory
[05:12] <dirkvdbroek> wich was quite wrong
[05:12] <dirkvdbroek> Anybody in here to put it on the WIKI?
[05:12] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: indeed. But you actually got something there?
[05:12] <Guardian> thyx :)
[05:12] <warpforge> dirk: you can put it on the wiki
[05:12] <phreak97> Ng, i dont know them, i go by autodetect
[05:13] <allison_1984> warp: well I tried to have the static ip option, no internet coonnection is working there so, I reverted back to the dhcp
[05:13] <phreak97> all i know is that i want to tell ubuntu that its ok to set 70Hz at 1280x960
[05:13] <Ng> phreak97: if you know the make/model of the monitor I would think google can help you find them
[05:13] <warpforge> allison: you need to use DHCP, but that's irrelevant to your problem
[05:13] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: it lookes like a hardware problem - considering the driver works fine on almost every system
[05:13] <iantec> Ng why use 777 what does it do?
[05:13] <Gridblock> how do i set up my own irc channel?
[05:13] <phreak97> Ng i dont understand why that would help me anyway
[05:13] <allison_1984> warp: I was reading this ....http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Prolink/Hurricane-9000/BitTornado.htm
[05:14] <phreak97> adding the h/v sync ranges
[05:14] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, check this url, http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33831753
[05:14] <dirkvdbroek> a posting by 'complex'
[05:14] <Ng> iantec: that allows all users full permissions (see "man chmod" for the full details)
[05:14] <dirkvdbroek> somewhere down there in the middle
[05:14] <dirkvdbroek> exactly the problem.
[05:14] <phreak97> this is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6965
[05:14] <iantec> thnx
[05:14] <warpforge> allison: there's a difference between using a static IP for your cable connection and a static IP for your local network
[05:14] <Ng> phreak97: because if you get the right values X will offer all of the resolutions they allow for
[05:15] <warpforge> allison: you need to leave the DSL connection set to DHCP
[05:15] <Ng> phreak97: there's no way to specifically say "just use 75hz", you either need to construct a modeline (very hard) or give X refresh ranges that make the mode possible
[05:15] <phreak97> its an lg studioworks 700s
[05:15] <phreak97> im googling now
[05:15] <warpforge> allison: and you should be able to port-forward without without any static IPs anywhere
[05:15] <warpforge> allison: just forward to the IP of your local computer
[05:16] <warpforge> allison: you can find that by running "ifconfig" at a shell prompt
[05:16] <Secreth`X> warpforge thanks again
[05:16] <Secreth`X> I need to go
[05:16] <warpforge> Secreth`X: you're welcome :-)
[05:16] <Secreth`X> see ya
[05:16] <warpforge> Secreth`X: bye
[05:16] <phreak97> what am i searching for?
[05:16] <allison_1984> warpforge: I did that already
[05:17] <allison_1984> warpforge: I am gonna try again
[05:17] <warpforge> allison: and it looks like your router only lets you forward single ports
[05:17] <ULffuntu> hi, is there a way in synaptic to list only the installed programs, thanks
[05:17] <warpforge> allison: so you'll need to reduce the port range of nicotine to only 10 or so
[05:17] <Ng> ULffuntu: click on Status at the bottom left, then Installed in the list above it
[05:17] <allison_1984> warpforge: yes, I limited it to ten
[05:17] <jacoplane> I've got a newbie question: Is it possible to install from the Live cd? If so, are there any disadvantages?
[05:17] <warpforge> ULffuntu: status, installed
[05:18] <warpforge> jacoplane: no
[05:18] <gnomefreak> ULffuntu, synaptic has a green mark next to the installed programs
[05:18] <ULffuntu> great, thanks all
[05:18] <jacoplane> warpforge: thanks, I guess I need to download the install then ;)
[05:18] <phreak97> Ng, manufacturers specs say: Max Resolution	1280 x 1024 / 60 Hz
[05:18] <phreak97> they lie
[05:18] <warpforge> jacoplane: sorry to be so blunt, but i'm pretty sure there's no non-hack way to install from the live CD
[05:19] <Mabus06> When I open up Totem it says the video output is already at use. I just rebooted and only tried to open totem, then opened xchat.
[05:19] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, i fixed it, where should I post this on the wiki? this fix is not there yet
[05:19] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: ahhh
[05:19] <lucasvo> jacoplane: I think it will be supported in 6.04
[05:19] <eth42> how do I search for a package on command-line? (e.g. I want to know which packages includes k3b)
[05:19] <iantec> Ng it wont seem to work
[05:19] <jacoplane> warpforge: no problem, a simple yes/no was all i was looking for.
[05:19] <lucasvo> eth42: apt-cache search k3
[05:19] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: I'm not sure. How did you fix it?
[05:19] <phreak97> unless changing the 1024 to 960 is enough to allow the higher refresh rate
[05:19] <thoreauputic> eth42: apt-cache search k3b
[05:19] <gorski> is sbackup good for backing up*
[05:19] <gorski> is sbackup good for backing up*?
[05:19] <trappist> an install-from-livecd feature would be pretty slick, but it's not there yet
[05:20] <iantec> Ng: check this out
[05:20] <warpforge> phreak: i would run your CRT at 1024x768, as 1280x1024 has a messed-up aspect ratio on most CRTs
[05:20] <iantec> iantec@ubuntu:~$ sudo mkdir /home/all
[05:20] <iantec> iantec@ubuntu:~$ sudo chmod 777 /home/all
[05:20] <iantec> iantec@ubuntu:~$ cd /home/all
[05:20] <iantec> bash: cd: /home/all: No such file or directory
[05:20] <simak> Can ubuntu update the kernel?
[05:20] <gnomefreak> trappist, it would cut down on downloading times :)
[05:20] <warpforge> simak: yes, run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[05:20] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, by "fixxing" the mtrr
[05:20] <phreak97> warpforge,  i am aware of that, thats why im trying to use 1280x960, not 1280x1024
[05:21] <phreak97> 1024x768 is worthless
[05:21] <warpforge> simak: make sure you have kernel meta-packages installed to make it upgrade
[05:21] <simak> warpforge, I think I did it automatically already ... just never realized ubuntu was capable of that?
[05:21] <dirkvdbroek> echo "disable=0" >| /proc/mtrr
[05:21] <dirkvdbroek>  echo "base=0x0 size=0x20000000 type=write-back" >| /proc/mtrr
[05:21] <eth42> lucasvo & thoreauputic: thanks!
[05:21] <warpforge> simak: as long as you have the kernel meta-package installed, the meta-package will require the latest packaged kernel
[05:22] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: ahhhhh
[05:22] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: how very interesting
[05:22] <thoreauputic> !tell eth42 about apt
[05:22] <warpforge> simak: you can even have multiple kernels installed, which you can choose from GRUB
[05:22] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, yes, it is very interesting, and important!
[05:22] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: how did you get /proc/mtrr to appear? IIRC you didn't have it, before?
[05:22] <anna_> can someone please help me? ive got a problem with my dvd device
[05:22] <phreak97> can someone give me some typical crt specs thatll probably work with my monitor?
[05:22] <warpforge> anna: what's the problem?
[05:22] <simak> warpforge, wow, that's neato.
[05:22] <phreak97> i need 1024x960 70Hz
[05:22] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, I made a typho - cat /proc/mttr
[05:23] <dirkvdbroek> duh
[05:23] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: oh. oops!
[05:23] <warpforge> a typho?
[05:23] <anna_> warpforge it doesnt recognize my dvds..
[05:23] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, however, when I did look, I found that it gave me 9 gb of memory
[05:23] <takedown_> Guys who know when cedega ported to 64?
[05:23] <dirkvdbroek> wich was the first lead
[05:23] <dirkvdbroek> the second
[05:23] <anna_> warpforge well, some do work and others dont..
[05:23] <warpforge> anna: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:23] <dirkvdbroek> was this error
[05:23] <thoreauputic> phreak97: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and specify the horiz and vert sync rates etc
[05:23] <dirkvdbroek> "xf86_EINVAL"
[05:24] <phreak97> thoreauputic, i dont want to reset anything from xorg.conf if thats what that does, i spent too long getting my tv running as a second x screen
[05:24] <anna_> warpforge thank you, ill check this out..
[05:24] <thoreauputic> !tell phreak97 about fixres
[05:25] <thoreauputic> phreak97: well, it's an X function, so...
[05:25] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, rc4.d is that what get's loaded at startup?
[05:25] <Mabus06> When I open up Totem it says the video output is already at use. I just rebooted and only tried to open totem, then opened xchat.
[05:25] <Mabus06> Can someone offer some advice?
[05:25] <eth42> I've got a question about synaptic: what does the little ubuntu icon for a package mean?
[05:25] <ccooke> dirkvdbroek: no. debian systems boot in runlevel 2
[05:25] <warpforge> mabus: what video output system is totem using on your system?
[05:25] <thoreauputic> eth42: supported (ie in MAin)
[05:25] <warpforge> eth42: it means a specially approved package
[05:25] <phreak97> thoreauputic, will it reset xorg.conf, or just add to it?
[05:26] <ackbahr> Good evening! (or whatever time of the day it is for you)
[05:26] <warpforge> eth42: not that we don't end up supporting everything in the repos anyway...
[05:26] <thoreauputic> phreak97: it will change whaevr you specify
[05:26] <phreak97> spose i can restore the backup if it breaks it
[05:26] <eth42> thoreauputic, warpforge: shouldn't it be on the CD / DVD as well? (because k3b has the icon but isn't included on the dvd)
[05:26] <thoreauputic> *whatever
[05:26] <phreak97> ok cool
[05:26] <Mabus06> warpforge, how do I find out?
[05:26] <trappist> eth42: k3b is a kde package and is on the kubuntu cd
[05:26] <warpforge> eth42: if it's on the CD/DVD it will be in the online repos
[05:26] <thoreauputic> eth42: k3b is a KDE app, so it's on the Kubuntu Cd but not ubuntu
[05:27] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, ok, cewl, then I have it in my startup scripts now. lets see what a reboot does :)
[05:27] <eth42> trappist: ok, I see
[05:27] <warpforge> mabus: one sec
[05:27] <eth42> thanks!
[05:27] <Strife> so I was just playing with Xnest, and now that that's closed, when I try to open up any new window, I get this: xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :0.0
[05:27] <Strife> any ideas?
[05:27] <Strife> (other than restarting X)
[05:27] <warpforge> mabus: I can't find it. Sorry.
[05:27] <warpforge> mabus: I'm sure it's somewhere
[05:28] <ackbahr> I'm looking for someone who could help me add a few command lines somewhere in the startup sequence of my Ubuntu (patient man required : I'm a big newbie!)
[05:28] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, the error is not 'ubuntu' specific - it is a 2.6.12 thing
[05:28] <warpforge> ackbahr: what would you like to add?
[05:28] <thoreauputic> Strife: check permissions on ~/.Xauthority
[05:28] <Foodcoman> Morning
[05:28] <dirkvdbroek> it seems that kernel number does not properly detect mtrr's on certain mb's
[05:28] <ackbahr> warpforge: ifconfig eth0 up and dhclient eth0
[05:29] <thoreauputic> Strife: ls -l ~/.Xauthority   -  chown user:user ~/.Xauthority to correct if that is what has happened
[05:29] <warpforge> ackbahr: you shouldn't add those as a startup script
[05:29] <phreak97> thoreauputic, i dont want to reconfig the whole x-server
[05:29] <elyoenai> hello there! I need some help with my keyboard configuration. It doesnt work well
[05:29] <warpforge> ackbahr: i'll show you the right way
[05:29] <Strife> thoreauputic: ok, I just did that, but I still get connection refused errors
[05:29] <thoreauputic> phreak97: well, I can only suggest - it's up to you
[05:29] <warpforge> ackbahr: we can do this the GUI way or the command line way
[05:29] <anna_> warpforge thank you very much!!! its working! i really appreciate your help, thank you!! ;)
[05:30] <warpforge> anna: you're welcome
[05:30] <elyoenai> I installed ubuntu breezer on a compaq r4000 laptop
[05:30] <thoreauputic> Strife: did you run Xnest as root?
[05:30] <anna_> warpforge thanks and bye ;)
[05:30] <Strife> thoreauputic: like a moron, yes
[05:30] <elyoenai> and i want to use an spanish keyboard
[05:30] <elyoenai> accents work fine
[05:30] <ackbahr> warpforge: command line is OK for me, if you prefer this.... Shall we /query?
[05:30] <elyoenai> problem with  #, at symbol, etc
[05:30] <elyoenai> not able to type them
[05:31] <thoreauputic> Strife: then remove .Xauthority, logout and log in - or change the permissions to your user
[05:31] <warpforge> ackbahr: go to /etc/network
[05:31] <elyoenai> any help?
[05:31] <elyoenai> forums didnt help me
[05:31] <phreak97> thoreauputic, i'd do it if my tv-out hadnt been such a royal assfuck to work
[05:31] <ackbahr> warpforge: I'm there
[05:31] <warpforge> type "sudo nano interfaces"
[05:31] <thoreauputic> Strife: you will probably find >Xauthority is now owned by root
[05:31] <gnomefreak> this work around for the locales bug doesnt work anymore :(
[05:31] <thoreauputic> sorry .Xauthority
[05:31] <dirkvdbroek> ccooke, well, thanks for helping out. I posted the fix here:
[05:31] <ackbahr> warpforge: done
[05:32] <warpforge> ackbahr: are you on breezy?
[05:32] <Strife> thoreauputic: well it was before chowning it
[05:32] <Strife> but yes, I'll just restart X
[05:32] <Strife> thanks
[05:32] <ackbahr> warpforge: "breezy"? What is it?
[05:32] <dirkvdbroek> http://cola.looze.net/veejay/fix_mtrr.html
[05:32] <thoreauputic> Strife: try a new terminal instance and see if that works
[05:32] <dirkvdbroek> maybe it'll get picked up by google.nl
[05:32] <warpforge> ackbahr: ubuntu "breezy" is ther version that came out in october
[05:33] <warpforge> ackbahr: it doesn't matter much
[05:33] <warpforge> ackbahr: what did you want to do, then?
[05:33] <ackbahr> warpforge: I can't remember when I downloaded it.... Is there a commande such as "version" to tell it?
[05:33] <warpforge> open System > About Ubuntu
[05:33] <warpforge> it's in the gnome-panel menus
[05:34] <_jason> ackbahr, lsb_release -a
[05:34] <Guardian> do you install eclipse CDT by hand, or is it available with apt-get ?
[05:34] <vix> i have a problem, update to Dapper version, and the apache2 this error: mysql:  "Unable to register functions, unable to load in Unknown on line 0 " and multiple lines with "duplicate lines". Sorry my english is no good, i am Spanish.
[05:34] <ackbahr> warpforge: Ah, I'm in KDE.... Well, I'm annoyed of having to open a shell, get SU, and  type the two above-mentionned lines at every startup.... So I'd like to automatise this!
[05:34] <pal_> hi i was wondering what vmware version i should install and where to gett it from? by the way iam running breezy
[05:34] <gnomefreak> warpforge, that hasnt worked since hoary
[05:35] <warpforge> gnome: I'm in Dapper, and it's there
[05:35] <ackbahr> warpforge: Yep, I've got Breezy! :)
[05:35] <gnomefreak> warpforge, im in dapper but its not there fon mine
[05:35] <warpforge> gnomefreak: i have a fresh dapper install
[05:35] <gnomefreak> i also cant get updates :(
[05:36] <pal_> if any of you run vmware
[05:36] <gnomefreak> i just finished installing it this am
[05:36] <warpforge> ackbahr: so i'll base the instructions on the default breezy file
[05:36] <gnomefreak> again :(
[05:36] <ackbahr> warpforge: Ok
[05:36] <warpforge> ackbahr: what did you want to accomplish?
[05:36] <phreak97> restart gnome time, wish me luck lol
[05:37] <gnomefreak> warpforge, did you get snagged by the locales not updating?
[05:37] <warpforge> gnomefreak: i got snagged going from hoary to breezy
[05:37] <ackbahr> warpforge: The command lines are "ifconfig eth0 up" and "dhclient eth0". I'd like to put it as default startup feature (or at least make a bash file with a desktop icon?)
[05:37] <gnomefreak> used to be that echo command for installing breezy locales doesnt work anymore :(
[05:38] <gnomefreak> used to work but not any more
[05:38] <warpforge> ackbahr: your eth0 (assuming it's wired) should do that automatically
[05:38] <warpforge> ackbahr: does your "configuring network devices" stage of startup hang?
[05:38] <ackbahr> warpforge: So I was told, but it seems not to
[05:38] <wogi> good morning ubuntuians!
[05:39] <phreak97> well.. it isnt fixed, but it didnt break
[05:39] <ackbahr> warpforge: Err, I don't think so.... The only startup "Failure" I noticed was the clock synch via network....
[05:39] <warpforge> ackbahr: what does ifconfig say after startup before you run those commands?
[05:39] <gnomefreak> lol phreak97
[05:40] <ackbahr> warpforge: It doesn't echo anything when I type the "ifconfig eth0 up" line
[05:40] <warpforge> no, just ifconfig
[05:40] <ackbahr> Ah, I didn't try it alone
[05:40] <warpforge> ackbahr: ifconfig -- alone -- spits out status information
[05:40] <ackbahr> warpforge: like many commands without argument :)
[05:41] <warpforge> ackbahr: I'm trying to understand why DHCP is failing if your startup breezes past "configuring network devices"
[05:41] <phreak97> ok, the monitor outperforms its specified settings, i know it does, but the technical specs wont let it if you stick to them
[05:41] <ackbahr> Well, the startup sequence doesn't really "hang", but maybe this stage fails without my noticing it
[05:42] <warpforge> your /etc/network/interfaces file says "iface eth0 inet dhcp" right?
[05:42] <nagyv> I have no sound! It was working until today. I did nothing extra, but now it doesn't work. What could I do?
[05:42] <ackbahr> iface lo inet loopback
[05:42] <phreak97> Hfreq: 30-70KHz Vfreq: 50-160Hz
[05:42] <ackbahr> warpforge: I get : iface lo inet loopback
[05:42] <warpforge> ackbahr: does your interfaces file have nothing about eth0 in it?
[05:43] <phreak97> thats are the specs i got from google
[05:43] <phreak97> but they dont let me choose 70Hz at 1280x960
[05:43] <ackbahr> warpforge: "map eth0"
[05:43] <warpforge> ackbahr: that's it?
[05:43] <ackbahr> only
[05:43] <phreak97> in windows i had to click "show unsupported modes"
[05:43] <ackbahr> warpforge: Well, yes
[05:44] <warpforge> ackbahr: add a line below the mappings that says "iface eth0 inet dhcp"
[05:44] <phreak97> so what do i do?
[05:44] <rseeber> hello
[05:44] <phreak97> what frequencies should i put in xorg?
[05:45] <warpforge> ackbahr: adding that line will run DHCP on startup
[05:45] <warpforge> ackbahr: that will also allow your clock to synch
[05:45] <rseeber> is there a tool that will go through the programs i've installed using the synaptic package manager and put them into the application menu?
[05:45] <ackbahr> Ok.... I'm trying to do it, I'm not used to the interface! :)
[05:45] <warpforge> rseeber: right-click on applications and choose "edit menu"
[05:46] <thegladiator> how do I adjust the power settings
[05:46] <ackbahr> warpforge: the file is transformed....
[05:46] <warpforge> great
[05:46] <warpforge> ackbahr: Ctrl-O to save it
[05:46] <warpforge> ackbahr: Ctrl-X to exit
[05:46] <rseeber> is there a way to have it down automatically instead of adding them one by one?
[05:47] <ackbahr> warpforge: done (i checked the file was really transformed)
[05:47] <thegladiator> how to adjust the monitor power settigs ? so that the screen goes off after 5 seconds if idle ?
[05:47] <warpforge> rseeber: a well-packaged program will add a .desktop file so it appears on the menu
[05:47] <thegladiator> 5 minutes*
[05:47] <warpforge> rseeber: you might also try "killall gnome-panel" to refresh the menu after an install
[05:47] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: look at xscreensaver-demo settings
[05:48] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: you can set those things in the screensaver
[05:48] <ackbahr> warpforge: Shall I give it a try?
[05:48] <warpforge> ackbahr: the only way to test the file is rebooting
[05:48] <ackbahr> warpforge: Ok.... So I'll be back, see you soon!
[05:48] <warpforge> bye
[05:48] <johannes> hi
[05:48] <warpforge> hi
[05:49] <johannes> i need little help
[05:49] <ackbahr> Bye, and just in case thanks a lot for the help!
[05:49] <thegladiator> whatever programs I run in my gnome I get the following warning or error : thegladiator@thegladiator:~$ xscreensaver-demo
[05:49] <thegladiator> xscreensaver-demo: 22:18:23: Gdk-warning: locale not supported by Xlib
[05:49] <thegladiator> xscreensaver-demo: 22:18:23: Gdk-warning: cannot set locale modifiers
[05:49] <thegladiator> nautilus also gives me the same warning/error
[05:49] <marc__> While attempting to install I encountered a problem with my pci nvidia geforce2 mx-400.  I had to remove it from the machine and reinstall.  Now breezy is up and running and I would like to put the card back in, can anyone tell me the proper way to do this?
[05:49] <thegladiator> whats this ? can I fix this ?
[05:49] <warpforge> gladiator: it looks like your have locale issues
[05:49] <thegladiator> warpforge, how can I fix this ?
[05:49] <phreak97> is there no way to force it into 70Hz?
[05:50] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: is it working fine? if so I wouldn't worry ;)
[05:50] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, try  sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[05:50] <warpforge> gnomefreak: though that often doesn't do the trick if it's truly broken
[05:50] <thegladiator> thoreauputic, looking for perfection :)
[05:50] <gnomefreak> warpforge, true it could be
[05:50] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: ;)
[05:51] <gnomefreak> i think i fixed my locales issues :)
[05:51] <warpforge> gnomefreak: it's not a harmful step, though
[05:51] <jdier> any way to make windows appear on all desktops on ubuntu gnome?  I know about "Always on visible workspace" but I want windows to stick on all workspaces.
[05:51] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, it asks me to select locales ---gives me 4 options
[05:51] <warpforge> yay
[05:51] <Ng> jdier: isn't that the same thing?
[05:51] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, what options?
[05:51] <warpforge> jdier: right click on the title bar for the window and select "always on visible workspace"
[05:51] <warpforge> oh
[05:51] <thegladiator>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales gives me options 1)aa_dj ISO-8859...
[05:51] <pal_> why am i not able to downgrade gcc from 4.02 to to 3.4.5 base?
[05:51] <warpforge> you tried that
[05:51] <turix> i can only play one sound at the time, for example if i use XMMS and start VLC i don't get any sound on VLC
[05:51] <turix> anyone help me?
[05:52] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, do you see UTF-8?
[05:52] <warpforge> turix: you're probably using OSS
[05:52] <pal_> i just deleted gcc 4.02 with apt-get remove ... and tryed apt-get install gcc-base-3.5
[05:52] <pal_> i just deleted gcc 4.02 with apt-get remove ... and tryed apt-get install gcc-base-3.4
[05:52] <turix> yes i am warpforge
[05:52] <warpforge> turix: use ALSA instead
[05:52] <thegladiator> 2) aa_er UTF-8 , 3) aa_ER@saaho UTF-8 4) aa_ET UTF-8
[05:52] <jdier> Ng - in essence, yes.  They are the same thing.
[05:52] <phreak97> oh what the hell
[05:52] <thegladiator> yeah all of them :)
[05:52] <thegladiator> which one shud I go for ?
[05:52] <Ng> jdier: then I'm not quite sure what you're asking for ;)
[05:52] <phreak97> according to my calculator, 1280x960 70Hz is within the specs of the monitor
[05:52] <warpforge> turix: OSS doesn't have a software mixer, so you need ALSA
[05:53] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, i need english actually
[05:53] <phreak97> max H freq = 70KHz
[05:53] <ackbahr> warpforge: Well tried, but it didn't work....
[05:53] <ackbahr> :)
[05:53] <jdier> I just am having trouble making gnome remember.  For instance, when I boot I am on the first workspace but my gaim buddy list is on the second.  I have to go to the second workspace and choose "always on visible" every session
[05:53] <phreak97> H for 1280x960 60Hz = 67.2KHz
[05:54] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, ok im not sure what one keep the one its set at and go into system>admin>lang. selector see if there are updates for locales
[05:54] <turix> warpforge, hmm no it's set to the alsa mixer
[05:54] <warpforge> ackbahr: did you try running ifconfig before anything else?
[05:54] <phreak97> so why wont it work?
[05:54] <warpforge> turix: all apps need to be set to ALSA
[05:54] <ackbahr> warpforge: Yes, and it returned just naught....
[05:54] <warpforge> naught?
[05:54] <turix> warpforge, where do i set XMMS to alsa?
[05:54] <Ng> jdier: ah. have you tried ticking the box on logout to save settings? Not all things seem to remember the sticky setting - perhaps there's an option in gaim?
[05:54] <ackbahr> warpforge: Absolutely nothing at all
[05:55] <ackbahr> warpforge: not even a blank line
[05:55] <jdier> I will check.
[05:55] <jdier> Ng - is metacity the ubuntu window manager?
[05:55] <warpforge> whoops
[05:55] <Ng> jdier: yes
[05:55] <thegladiator> can nyone tell me for  american english which shud be the locale ?
[05:55] <ackbahr> warpforge: So I thought
[05:55] <warpforge> ackbahr: add "auto eth0" at the end of the file, too
[05:55] <Ng> jdier: there's also a tool called devilspie, it's a bit complex, but you can use it to force windows to open in specific ways
[05:56] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, its not set on anything:( just I can select ...there are around 100+ ...can you tell me the one set in yours ?
[05:56] <Shouryuu> Hi, I came earlier because I was getting errors while trying to copy my ubunto ISO to a cd. Well I've managed, but it seems that my pc does not want to reboot from the CD Drive. The problem either comes from me, not properly setting up my Bios so that my computer restarts using the CD drive, or from the CD. Is there a way to check which is it?
[05:56] <ackbahr> warpforge: it was "sudo nano..." and what else?
[05:56] <gnomefreak> not until i find out if this worked?
[05:56] <warpforge> ackbahr: "sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces"
[05:56] <gnomefreak> <<<fixing locales issue
[05:56] <gnomefreak> i hope
[05:57] <ackbahr> warpforge: At the very end of the file?
[05:57] <warpforge> yes
[05:57] <thegladiator>  i'll ask around  :  sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales ------> can you temme the set value in your computer ? anyone ?
[05:57] <thoreauputic> Shouryuu: do you see a lot of files on the CD when you open it or just one?
[05:57] <Shouryuu> thore - just one
[05:57] <thoreauputic> Shouryuu: did you burn it as an image?
[05:57] <thoreauputic> Shouryuu: that's your problem
[05:57] <Shouryuu> lol thanks
[05:57] <thoreauputic> Shouryuu: you must burn it as an image ISO
[05:57] <thegladiator> Shouryuu, burn it as an imagaae
[05:58] <thegladiator> !iso
[05:58] <ubotu> iso is, like, download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[05:58] <thoreauputic> ah that's a good factoid
[05:58] <Shouryuu> well according to nero i did burn it as an iso
[05:58] <ackbahr> warpforge: Done. I'm going to try it now. See you soon!
[05:58] <thegladiator> ubotu knows it all
[05:58] <warpforge> ackbahr: good luck
[05:58] <ubotu> thegladiator: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[05:58] <thoreauputic> Shouryuu: obviously not :)
[05:58] <Shouryuu> But I trust you :P
[05:58] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrrrrrrrr
[05:58] <Shouryuu> hehe
[05:58] <Shouryuu> thanks though :P
[05:58] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, what happ ?
[05:58] <thoreauputic> Shouryuu: read ubotu's URL
[05:59] <gnomefreak> its not working
[05:59] <thegladiator> darn!!!
[05:59] <Shouryuu> thor- yeah I've been there
[05:59] <thegladiator> is there any one who knows about locales out here ?
[05:59] <Shouryuu> thor- I keep getting "generic error" when I try to use ISORecorder, I'm guessing it's my CDs since they get errors with nero as well. So i'm going to run out and buy a few and, pray :P
[05:59] <warpforge> gladiator: have you checked for broken packages in synaptec?
[05:59] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, mines a different issue than yours but still locale based
[06:00] <thoreauputic> Shouryuu: well, if you do it right you will see a whole bunch of files on the Cd :)
[06:00] <thegladiator> Shouryuu, yes . synaptic says no broken packages
[06:00] <warpforge> gladiator: are you on breezy?
[06:00] <thegladiator> yes breezy badger
[06:00] <gnomefreak> i cant get dpkg to to overwrite the locales
[06:00] <warpforge> gladiator: did you upgrade from hoary?
[06:00] <thegladiator> nope
[06:00] <Shouryuu> ok at least I know if I'm an idiot or if it's my computer :P Thanks guys =D
[06:00] <warpforge> okay
[06:00] <thegladiator> ship it cd
[06:01] <warpforge> thegladiator: now, you want "english," right?
[06:01] <thegladiator> yes . ameriacn british canadian
[06:01] <warpforge> k
[06:01] <thegladiator> anything will do since I am an Indian
[06:01] <ulughbegh> hey
[06:02] <thegladiator> hey ulughbegh
[06:02] <ulughbegh> can i  install ubuntu's live cd to hard disk?
[06:02] <thegladiator> ulughbegh, no
[06:02] <warpforge> thegladiator: do you have "language-pack-en" installed?
[06:02] <thegladiator> ulughbegh, thats not possible
[06:02] <sabaki> prob: i added a hard drive on /dev/hdd that has a reiserfs partition and data, but can't seem to mount it with 'sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hd'  all it says is 'mount: /dev/hdd1 already mounted or /mnt/hd busy' but it isn't mounted! what gives?
[06:02] <ulughbegh> i have this cd, and i dont want to download installation cd's again
[06:03] <ackbahr> warpforge: Missed again
[06:03] <{_Zeus_}> alguien habla espa?ol??
[06:03] <thoreauputic> !es
[06:03] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:03] <warpforge> ackbahr: yuck
[06:03] <ackbahr> warpforge: If you have no other ideas, I'd be happy with a "bash icon" solution, too....
[06:03] <pal_> how do i install gcc 3.4 without problems? i dont want 4.0.2, but 3.4 since vmware iam installing needs this version since breezy kernel is configured with it
[06:03] <thegladiator> warpforge, yes I do
[06:04] <warpforge> ackbahr: here's the best I can offer: http://doc.rocklinux.org/wiki/NetworkConfiguration
[06:04] <pal_> now i removed 4.0.2 but when i install 3.4 i cannot use it
[06:04] <thegladiator> ulughbegh, thats not how it woks . you need to get a installation cd to install ubuntu
[06:04] <gnomefreak> pal_, try sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:04] <ackbahr> warpforge: But that's really great of you to help, I'd be completly lost without people like you!
[06:04] <thegladiator> warpforge, it is installed , yes
[06:04] <ulughbegh> thegladiator, thanks
[06:05] <vbhanu> which packae provides the shared library libc.so.6?
[06:05] <ackbahr> warpforge: And is it possible to make a bash saying "SU/********/ifconfig eth0 up/dhclient eth0" when I click an icon on the desktop?
[06:05] <thoreauputic> !find libc.so.6
[06:05] <joshisscifi> hey all
[06:05] <warpforge> ackbahr: yes
[06:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libc.so.6' (4 shown): (/lib64/libc.so.6) in libs/libc6-amd64 ;; (/usr/lib/debug/libc.so.6) in libdevel/libc6-dbg ;; (/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6) in libs/libc6-i686 ;; (/lib/libc.so.6, /lib/tls/libc.so.6) in base/libc6.
[06:05] <joshisscifi> anyone want to help me get my wireless started automatically at boot? :)
[06:05] <warpforge> ackbahr: just make an executable text file
[06:05] <joshisscifi> so far each time I reboot I must do a 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' just for it to start the wireless card
[06:06] <bor> !find lspci
[06:06] <ackbahr> warpforge: How do I do that?
[06:06] <Di42lo> Received SIGSEGV
[06:06] <Di42lo> This could be a bug in BMP. If you don't know why this happened, send a mail to us at beepmp-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
[06:06] <phreak97> fucking damnit, even the display modes i set manually dont appear
[06:06] <vbhanu> thoreauputic, ubotu : so what is the package that i have to install to get libc.so.6
[06:06] <Di42lo> someone know why is it happen ?
[06:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'lspci' (1 shown): (/bin/lspci, /usr/bin/lspci) in admin/pciutils.
[06:06] <Seveas> joshisscifi, echo ndiswrapper | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[06:06] <joshisscifi> Seveas: many thanks
[06:06] <thoreauputic> vbhanu: you should already have it - what are you trying toi do?
[06:06] <thoreauputic> *to
[06:06] <thegladiator> Di42lo, it could be a random crash or a bug as it said . I get it sometimes as well
[06:07] <yggdrasil_> good morning gents
[06:07] <vbhanu> thoreauputic, ubotu : i have an old version, i wanna upgrade
[06:07] <warpforge> ackbahr: http://linuxcommand.org/writing_shell_scripts.php
[06:07] <thegladiator> vbhanu, ubotu is a bot :)
[06:07] <phreak97> what does  'Option "DPMS"' do?
[06:07] <thegladiator> warpforge, warpforge, the packages is there in the computer language_pack_en . what should I do with locales ?
[06:07] <john_> Is there a program that can splita download into sections to speed up the download?
[06:07] <Di42lo> thegladiator: k i'll write a script to solve it :/
[06:07] <thoreauputic> vbhanu: fiddling with libc6 is a great way to get a lot of pain
[06:07] <Mabus06> source-o-matic made a bogus list for me, can someone help
[06:07] <pal_> gnomefreak its building gcc 4.0
[06:07] <Seveas> phreak97, power management
[06:07] <vbhanu> thoreauputic, :)) did not know that
[06:07] <phreak97> ok
[06:07] <warpforge> gladiator: try removing the ubuntu-desktop package and readding it
[06:07] <Seveas> Mabus06, hmm, paste the list on the pastebin
[06:07] <gnomefreak> pal_, after you do that install gcc3.4
[06:07] <ackbahr> warpforge: Thank you very much, I'll try that one.... I'll tell you if I manage it, or maybe if I postpone it to tomorrow, maybe....
[06:07] <warpforge> gladiator: tell me about any conflicts
[06:08] <thoreauputic> vbhanu: everything depends on it (it's really basic)
[06:08] <Seveas> Mabus06, I wrote the source-o-matic, so I should fix it :0
[06:08] <warpforge> ackbahr: alright. good luck
[06:08] <thegladiator> yep . warpforge i am using gnome , so will I mess up ? and is there any way I can do it from a cd ?
[06:08] <Mabus06> Seveas,  http://pastebin.ca/36492
[06:08] <thegladiator> my broadband doesnt permit anymore download this month
[06:09] <warpforge> gladiator: you have nothing to worry about. ubuntu-desktop is only a meta-package
[06:09] <phreak97> Seveas, how come the list of resolutions in preferences > screen resolution is different to the ones in xorg.conf?
[06:09] <nagyv> Hello! I have a huge problem with my sound device: it doesn't work, although it was working properly yesterday (and before). I didn't set anthing as I remember. Could someone help me?
[06:09] <thegladiator> ah warpforge . ok . so what can I do it to install from the cd itslef and not the internet ?
[06:09] <phreak97> brb
[06:09] <sabaki> mounting this drive should be simple, but something in ubuntu seems to be interferring... any help appreciated
[06:09] <cece> ciao
[06:09] <warpforge> gladiator: removing ubuntu-desktop won't remove anything
[06:10] <Seveas> Mabus06, what's wrong with it?
[06:10] <warpforge> gladiator: removing and readding it can sometimes show conflicts
[06:10] <pal_> gnomefreak i did that and 4.0 is still gcc version
[06:10] <Mabus06> Seveas, gives me errors when downloading packages or doing apt-get update
[06:10] <Seveas> Mabus06, errors -> pastebin
[06:10] <pal_> when i do gcc -v cc version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[06:10] <thoreauputic> pal_: you need to " export gcc-3.4"  before compiling
[06:10] <gnomefreak> pal_, i cant remember command off hand but im sure its something like sudo dpkg-reconfigure gcc
[06:11] <gnomefreak> and pick the 3.4 one
[06:11] <netstar> What's the best free and open-source gnutella client?
[06:11] <warpforge> limewire
[06:11] <Seveas> thoreauputic, that's export CC=gcc-3.4
[06:11] <Seveas> :)
[06:11] <netstar> limewire is open-source?
[06:11] <warpforge> yes
[06:11] <Seveas> netstar, gtk-gnutella
[06:11] <thoreauputic> Seveas: ah my mistake - thanks
[06:12] <john_> Anyone know of any ubuntu based Live distro under 256mb? (for a flash pen)
[06:12] <warpforge> john: none exists
[06:12] <pal_> thoreauputic what do you mean, as export in the shell?
[06:12] <john_> ok
[06:12] <thoreauputic> Seveas: does update-alternatives --config gcc work?
[06:12] <warpforge> john: other live linux distros are that size, though
[06:12] <gnomefreak> yeah thats it
[06:12] <yggdrasil_> boy i bet microsoft is shitting in its pants after seing mac os ported to intel
[06:12] <thoreauputic> pal_: see Seveas' command - I got it wrong :)
[06:12] <Pavix> Is there any way to take a moving screenshot, so that it captures your desktop for x amount of seconds and turns it into a .gif or something
[06:12] <john_> yeah im gonna check dsl...
[06:12] <sproingie> yggdrasil: why would they be?
[06:12] <Seveas> thoreauputic, no
[06:12] <warpforge> thegladiator: you still there?
[06:12] <Seveas> gcc does not use that system
[06:12] <thoreauputic> Seveas: OK - thanks
[06:13] <Mabus06> Seveas, http://pastebin.ca/36493
[06:13] <john_> just wanted to be sure there was no ubuntu based one.... cos I like ubuntu :-)
[06:13] <gnomefreak> someone told me to do that the other day but i fixed my issue :(
[06:13] <sproingie> yggdrasil: osx still only runs on macs.  they changed the cpu, they didn't make it run everywhere
[06:13] <pal_> gnomefreak still not working. i mean dpkg is choosing the latest version
[06:13] <yggdrasil_> it wont be far off
[06:13] <gnomefreak> pal_, use Seveas command
[06:13] <pal_> and Seveas stuff didnt work
[06:13] <thoreauputic> yggdrasil: nostalgic nick :)
[06:14] <warpforge> ygg: please take this discussion to offtopic
[06:14] <yggdrasil_> especialy with the macos86
[06:14] <pal_> when i say gcc -v it is again 4.0
[06:14] <yggdrasil_> project
[06:14] <yggdrasil_> or whats it called
[06:14] <ackbahr> warpforge: I think it's for later.... i had a quick look but didn't find how to give su permission to the bash, so that it can run the commands on its own?
[06:14] <yggdrasil_> thanks thor
[06:14] <yggdrasil_> sorry warp
[06:14] <phreak97> the things i put in xorg.conf arent having any effect on anything
[06:14] <thoreauputic> !enter
[06:14] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[06:15] <Seveas> Mabus06, did you even READ the source-o-matic page and the file it generates?
[06:15] <warpforge> ackbahr: have your desktop environment invoke the shell script through its sudo command
[06:15] <thegladiator_> warpforge, ubuntu-package was not installed in my computer!
[06:15] <Mabus06> Seveas, what's the problem?
[06:15] <thegladiator_> warpforge, how can i install it from the cd ?
[06:15] <warpforge> thegladiator: ubuntu-desktop is the package
[06:15] <Seveas> it's YOUR fault that it's not working - you should READ
[06:15] <alekandr> anyone know how to define $NAME as /usr/folder/folder ? i.e. you cd $HOME, for home directory?
[06:15] <squid0> hi people
[06:15] <squid0> what app reads ebooks for linux?
[06:16] <thegladiator_> warpforge, i can find a ubuntu-dektop package is there in the cd , but i havent installde it seems
[06:16] <ackbahr> warpforge: Ok, I'll try to see to that....
[06:16] <Seveas> alekandr, export NAME=/usr/folder/folder
[06:16] <thegladiator_> warpforge, how can I install from the cd ?
[06:16] <warpforge> alekandr: do you want it temporarily defined or whenever you start the shell
[06:16] <gnomefreak> pal_, the EXPORT command should have worked make sure its typed exactly as Seveas typed it with the caps in right place
[06:16] <Seveas> pal_, what is the problem (I just jumped in after i saw the incorrect export)
[06:16] <warpforge> thegladiator: add your cdrom to apt by going to Settings > Repositories > Add CDROM in Synaptec
[06:17] <sabaki> is there a ubuntu-specific hard drive upgrade howto?
[06:17] <ackbahr> warpforge: Thank you again, I will try this all tomorrow, It's just time for lunch here! :) Good bye!
[06:17] <pal_> ok gnomefreak but can you tell me the location of the directory of C header files that match running kernel?
[06:17] <ackbahr> Goodbye all!
[06:17] <gnomefreak> he wants gcc3.4 used instead of 4.0
[06:17] <ackbahr> exit
[06:17] <alekandr> warpforge: always there
[06:17] <ackbahr> oups
[06:17] <thoreauputic> Seveas: I think he's installing vmware
[06:17] <Seveas> pal_, did you apt-get install gcc-3.4 linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:17] <pal_> yes thoreauputic iam installing vmware
[06:17] <thoreauputic> pal_: you'll need linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:18] <warpforge> alekandr: http://www.cs.hmc.edu/qref/changevar.html
[06:18] <pal_> no Seveas i didnt
[06:18] <Seveas> pal_, then please do so
[06:18] <Seveas> pal_, apt-get install gcc-3.4 linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:18] <Seveas> pal_, export CC=gcc-3.4
[06:18] <warpforge> alekandr: and you're using BASH
[06:18] <Seveas> pal_, ./vmware-config.pl (or whatever the name is)
[06:19] <thegladiator_> when I add the cd it says repo not found . the cd I guess
[06:19] <warpforge> alekandr: "As in csh/tcsh, to set the variable for all sessions, you should add it to  the .bashrc file in your home directory, then run source .bashrc to apply the changes."
[06:19] <pal_> ok Seveas ill try
[06:19] <warpforge> thegladiator_: why don't you just use the online repos?
[06:20] <thegladiator_> warpforge, the bandwidth is over for the month ... ISP
[06:20] <thegladiator_> warpforge, let me check the size..is it huge
[06:20] <thoreauputic> thegladiator_:  sudo apt-cdrom add
[06:20] <sabaki> can any of youse guys help me get this hard drive mounted? i'm having a helluva hard time here.
[06:20] <bwlang> i'm having some trouble getting udev to make a link for my device...  i've created a 10-palm.rules file in /etc/udev/rules.d with this line BUS="usb", SYSFS{product}="Palm Handheld", NAME="pilot"  but /dev/pilot is never created - i can't seem to turn up udev logging to figure out the problem  - anyboyd know what I'm doing wrong?
[06:20] <warpforge> thegladiator_: you're welcome to try ^^^
[06:20] <phreak97> sometimes when i press alt ctrl backspace, i am given a command line login, which gives me access to only a command line, how do i restart the gui?
[06:20] <warpforge> thegladiator_: what thoreauputic said
[06:20] <Seveas> sabaki, windows drive?
[06:20] <lsuactiafner> 4926 mount -t smbfs //192.168.0.100/Movies /mnt/03/
[06:20] <lsuactiafner> [27797.445360]  smb_fill_super: missing data argument
[06:20] <alekandr> warpforge: ty
[06:20] <lsuactiafner> anyone seen that error before?
[06:20] <phreak97> or gnome even, whatever
[06:20] <Ng> phreak97: sudo apt-get /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:20] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, nope
[06:21] <Ng> err
[06:21] <thegladiator_> yep thanks
[06:21] <sabaki> Seveas > linux drive (reiserfs)
[06:21] <Ng> phreak97: without the "apt-get"
[06:21] <netstar> Any of you find that some applications don't start when you click on them?
[06:21] <bwlang> phreak97: assuming gnome... /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[06:21] <lsuactiafner> thanks Seveas
[06:21] <jorgp> I need some help with hal, when hald is running, I can not access my flash drive, when if I kill the hald proc flash drive mounts fine
[06:21] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, file bug :)
[06:21] <Ng> phreak97: sorry, I screwed that up ;)
[06:21] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : dont have time
[06:21] <Seveas> sabaki, mount -t reiser /dev/yourdrive /path/to/mountpoint
[06:21] <netstar> occasionally, Like I have issues with Firefox 1.5 and occasionally open-office.org 2.01 don'rt load
[06:21] <phreak97> lol, ok thanks
[06:21] <phreak97> lol
[06:22] <sabaki> Seveas prob: i added a hard drive on /dev/hdd that has a reiserfs partition and data, but can't seem to mount it with 'sudo mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hd'  all it says is 'mount: /dev/hdd1 already mounted or /mnt/hd busy' but it isn't mounted! what gives?
[06:22] <warpforge> netstar: firefox 1.5 isn't supported on breezy
[06:22] <netstar> warpforge, and?
[06:22] <Seveas> sabaki, put the output of 'mount' (without arguments) on the [astebin
[06:22] <Seveas> pastebin even...
[06:22] <bwlang> sabaki: can you do fdisk -l /dev/hdd ?
[06:22] <thegladiator_> thoreauputic, at the end of the process it unmounetd the CD . now just put the cd pack ?
[06:22] <thegladiator_> back*
[06:22] <warpforge> netstar: there's a reason it's not in backports or any other repository
[06:23] <Fade> what is that reason?
[06:23] <netstar> warpforge, what's that reason?
[06:23] <netstar> hoary was the same, nobody can be bothered.
[06:23] <warpforge> netstar: it causes problems with the packages that depend on firefox
[06:23] <thoreauputic> thegladiator_: well, what are you doing ? installing from it? It will ask you to put the CD in
[06:23] <Seveas> because ff1.5 fucks up yelp and other users of gtkmozembed
[06:23] <sproingie> dammit.  my isp's nameservers have died AGAIN
[06:23] <Fade> sounds like the tail wagging the dog to me.
[06:23] <thegladiator_> thoreauputic, i am trying to add cd into repo
[06:23] <warpforge> FF1.5 will be in Dapper
[06:23] <olicat> anyonoe know what the basic job of a dns server is/
[06:23] <olicat> ?
[06:23] <netstar> Seveas, yelp works fine here.
[06:23] <sproingie> any recommendations on nameservers i could install and run myself?
[06:23] <thoreauputic> thegladiator_: it should have done that
[06:24] <Fade> olicat: yes
[06:24] <Seveas> netstar, because you still have 1.0.7 installed
[06:24] <thoreauputic> thegladiator_: you can check if you want by typing  less /etc/apt/sources.list  to read it
[06:24] <sabaki> bwlang > yes ... it looks fine
[06:24] <warpforge> netstar: there's extensive discussion in the forums why FF1.5 won't be in Breezy
[06:24] <Seveas> ff1.5 in a nonstandard directory won't harm anything
[06:24] <phreak97> im about to die
[06:24] <phreak97> why cant i feraking force a video mode?
[06:25] <phreak97> freaking*
[06:25] <gnomefreak> warpforge, does FF1.5 still have issues in dapper?
[06:25] <Seveas> because your card does not support it?
[06:25] <thegladiator_> thoreauputic, priavte for a second  ?
[06:25] <bwlang> sabaki: did you do the pastebin output of your mount command?
[06:25] <warpforge> gnomefreak: not here
[06:25] <Seveas> gnomefreak, no
[06:25] <olicat> Fade, and it is...? :)
[06:25] <thoreauputic> thegladiator_: hmm - OK
[06:25] <gnomefreak> ok ty yayyyyy
[06:25] <warpforge> It's still called "Deer Park" in Dapper, though
[06:25] <sabaki> Seveas > how to I paste it to the pastebin? do i just do a /join #pastebin and paste it there?
[06:25] <felipe_> Hello, is there a way to uninstall a program i compiled from a tarball_
[06:25] <phreak97> Seveas, i use the same card in windows
[06:25] <felipe_> ?
[06:25] <Seveas> sabaki, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:25] <leif> I am wondering if somebody can send me the orginal /usr/lib/X11/xkb/symbols/se file, which I have (stupidly) overwritten with my personal se-file which seam to not be compatible with ubuntu. Thanks in advice.
[06:25] <netstar> Seveas, fair enough.
[06:25] <sproingie> anyone with working nameservice who can tell me the IP for archive.ubuntu.com?
[06:25] <racedo> I need help connecting to the windows network from ubuntu -places, network servers don't show the windows network (or anything)
[06:25] <Fade> name service translates human readable names (www.google.com) to dotted quad tcp/ip addresses of the form xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[06:25] <warpforge> thegladiator_: did you get the cdrom repo working?
[06:25] <hawking> at the boot screen I get this error : "device-mapper dm-linear : device lookup failed" for like 10 times... why is that?
[06:26] <gnomefreak> warpforge, 1.6 is also i think thats new name firefox-dearpark
[06:26] <Fade> and vice versa.
[06:26] <Seveas> leif, pm me your mail address
[06:26] <netstar> Still there must be enough users using it to gather some experiences.
[06:26] <sproingie> Fade: or xx:xx:xx:xx...
[06:26] <bwlang> sabaki: this might be obvious... but does /mnt/hd exist? (it's not /mnt/hdd right?)
[06:26] <thoreauputic> thegladiator_: I queried you - where are you?
[06:26] <Fade> well, ipv6 is rare enough. ;)
[06:26] <warpforge> sproingie: knowing the IP probably won't do the trick unless archives has a dedicated IP with no virtual hosts
[06:26] <thegladiator_> warpforge, working on it
[06:27] <thegladiator_> it seems I acnt identify myself here in free node
[06:27] <thegladiator_> ah one sec
[06:27] <sproingie> warpforge: i'm just going to put it in /etc/hosts
[06:27] <warpforge> sproingie: that will work
[06:27] <thoreauputic> thegladiator_: youmight need to register
[06:27] <sabaki> bwlang > yes I created a /mnt/hd
[06:27] <sproingie> warpforge: got an IP I can use?
[06:27] <thegladiator> its done :)
[06:27] <warpforge> sproingie: what domain name?
[06:27] <sproingie> warpforge: archive.ubuntu.com
[06:28] <sabaki> Seveas > ok i pasted it... but it doesn't tell us anything
[06:28] <warpforge> 82.211.81.151
[06:28] <sproingie> warpforge: thanks
[06:28] <bwlang> sabaki: need the url
[06:28] <warpforge> sproingie: I'll be your extremely high latency DNS server any day
[06:28] <phreak97> ok, say my video card supports forced video modes.. how the crap do i force it?
[06:28] <sabaki> Seveas > /dev/hdd1 doesn't show up at all
[06:29] <Seveas> hmm
[06:29] <sproingie> warpforge: i'm just using it to download maradns so i can set up my own nameserver
[06:29] <Seveas> does the mount point exist at all?
[06:29] <sabaki> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6966
[06:29] <phreak97> im dying from the 60Hz flicker
[06:29] <sabaki> yes the mouont point exists
[06:29] <Seveas> very weird
[06:29] <phreak97> eyes hurt so much
[06:29] <Seveas> phreak97, did you set a correct Vsync too?
[06:29] <phreak97> Seveas, yeah
[06:29] <phreak97> 50-160
[06:30] <sabaki> Seveas > same error no matter where I try to mount it to
[06:30] <phreak97> i changed H to 30-96
[06:30] <Seveas> sabaki, /me puzzled...
[06:30] <phreak97> i thought if i told it my stuff could do better, it might let me try
[06:30] <phreak97> apparently not
[06:31] <Seveas> which card/driver are you using?
[06:31] <simak> how can I take an icon from the address bar in firefox to use for a launcher?
[06:31] <Seveas> simak, /usr/share/icons/$somewhere
[06:31] <phreak97> Seveas, geforce 4 440 mx 64mb, with the nvidia drivers
[06:31] <sabaki> Seveas > /me puzzled too. even tried a differnt har drive.. tried in 'safe mode', etc.
[06:31] <simak> Seveas, thx I'll look into it.
[06:32] <Seveas> sabaki, sudo fdisk -l ; output on the pastebin
[06:32] <bwlang> sabaki: as you say ... no good info there...  Try this... telinit 1 (single user mode)  - maybe there's some gnome thing screwing it up
[06:32] <phreak97> its tempting to cut the data lines on my card so it cant autodetect monitors anymore
[06:33] <phreak97> so sick of linux being a stubborn prick
[06:33] <Seveas> phreak97, ranting in here will not help
[06:33] <bwlang> is udevd supposed to be always running?
[06:33] <Ng> phreak97: afair you can disable DCC/EDID so it won't be able to autodetect the monitor data
[06:33] <Seveas> bwlang, yes
[06:33] <Nelo> Hello, I get my ip via dhcp, how do I tell that is the gateway being assigned back?
[06:34] <Seveas> Ng, yeah good one, phreak97 comment out this line: Load "DDC"
[06:34] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : the problem with super_fill, had to use apt-get install smbfs to get the command line utilities correctly installed
[06:34] <Seveas> Nelo, route
[06:34] <phreak97> in xorg.conf?
[06:34] <Nelo> thanks..
[06:34] <Seveas> phreak97, yes
[06:34] <lsuactiafner> there is a bug report already
[06:34] <sabaki> bwlang > went to telinit 1, did 'mount /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hd'  and still get 'mount: /dev/hdd1 already mounted or /mnt/hd busy'
[06:35] <bwlang> Seveas: well - i guess that's my trouble... nothing in /etc/default disabling it....  any idea why it's not there?
[06:35] <bwlang> Seveas: tried /etc/init.d/udev restart - obviously...
[06:35] <Seveas> sabaki, sudo fdisk -l ; output on the pastebin, I'd like to see what the thing looks like to the system
[06:35] <hawking> does anyone here know a way to disable my synaptics touchpad?
[06:35] <bwlang> sabaki: wierd! - anything funny in dmesg?
[06:35] <sabaki> bwlang > i even tried adding it to fstab and rebooting... it didn't mount
[06:35] <hawking> I have an externat mouse
[06:35] <phreak97> ok, ill try it, brb
[06:35] <hawking> external*
[06:35] <Ng> hawking: is the external mouse PS2 or USB?
[06:36] <gnomefreak> i see cups doesnt like stopping still
[06:36] <hawking> NG : usb
[06:36] <bwlang> sabaki: also post what ls -l /dev/hdd* looks  like
[06:36] <phreak97> Seveas, made no diff
[06:36] <mcphail> Has anyone installed egroupware from the repos?
[06:36] <Linfanguin> how do i play a .avi file in ubuntu? i tried open it with totem it says unable to play vlc wont do nothing-mplayer sucks ass any type of plug in i need?
[06:36] <Ng> hawking: it's probably not an ideal solution, but I do that by putting "alias psmouse off" in /etc/modprobe.d/local - that will skip loading the kernel driver for the ps2 mice, which should include the synaptics pad
[06:37] <phreak97> holdon brb again
[06:37] <Ng> Linfanguin: have you seen the RestrictedFormats wiki page?
[06:37] <phreak97> nah, no good
[06:37] <Seveas> Linfanguin, totem-xine + w32codecs is your best bet
[06:37] <Linfanguin> where can i find w32 codecs?
[06:37] <Seveas> !w32codecs
[06:37] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[06:37] <Linfanguin> can i do a sudo at-get?
[06:38] <phreak97> Seveas, whats dri?
[06:38] <Seveas> something you should not use
[06:38] <hawking> Ng : that solution makes sense cause none of the other ways worked
[06:38] <hawking> lemme try
[06:38] <Seveas> did you also do: sudo nvidia-glx enable?
[06:38] <phreak97> well.. it loads it
[06:39] <phreak97> uhh
[06:39] <phreak97> glx loads
[06:39] <phreak97> but i dunno if i did that
[06:39] <phreak97> ill try
[06:39] <Katie^> eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument < any idea why?
[06:39] <phreak97> sudo: nvidia-glx: command not found
[06:39] <bwlang> seveas: grr... looks like you must have kernel 2.6.15 to run udevd
[06:40] <phreak97> Seveas, i guess that doesnt work
[06:40] <sabaki> bwlang > what i see in dmesg that may be related is a message that repeats a bunch of times that says '[4294690.585000]  device-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed
[06:40] <sabaki> [4294690.585000]  device-mapper: error adding target to table'
[06:40] <irvin> phreak97: that should be sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:40] <thegladiator> thanks mate
[06:40] <squid0> hello fellas
[06:40] <squid0> i have a problem running freeciv on ubuntu
[06:40] <squid0> it says: "*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (out): 0x0829d720 ***"
[06:40] <squid0> and then aborts.
[06:40] <bwlang> sabaki: sounds like it's related... sorry - i've not seen that before... probably wortha google... or myabe try turning off devicemapper
[06:41] <squid0> what shall i do??
[06:41] <phreak97> irvin, Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[06:41] <sabaki> bwlang > and i see ls -l /dev/hdd*
[06:41] <sabaki> brw-rw----  1 root disk 22, 64 2006-01-10 21:02 /dev/hdd
[06:41] <sabaki> brw-rw----  1 root disk 22, 65 2006-01-10 21:02 /dev/hdd1
[06:41] <phreak97> Seveas, what now, or irvin for that matter
[06:41] <bwlang> sabaki: device nodes look okay to me...
[06:42] <thoreauputic> !tell thegladiator about apt
[06:42] <irvin> phreak97: restart X, press ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:42] <squid0> any help with running freeciv??
[06:42] <thegladiator>  thank you
[06:42] <phreak97> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following command: md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum
[06:42] <phreak97> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[06:42] <phreak97> from nv to nvidia.
[06:42] <Linfanguin> ok i installed the w32 codecs-totem says there is no unput plugin to handle the location of this movie
[06:42] <thoreauputic> :) you're welcome
[06:42] <sproingie> YAY, i am free from my isp's lame DNS servers
[06:43] <phreak97> irvin, it errored
[06:43] <phreak97> it didnt work, theres no use restarting
[06:43] <cello_rasp> how the heck do i automatically mount a samba share to the filesystem without fstab or kde?
[06:43] <thoreauputic> !good bot
[06:43] <ubotu> thanks thoreauputic :)
[06:43] <thegladiator> eheh
[06:43] <irvin> phreak97: looks like you have to manually edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf by changing nv to nvidia
[06:43] <slept> cello_rasp, why dont you want to use fstab ?
[06:43] <phreak97> ok
[06:44] <hawking> Ng: thanks that worked :))
[06:44] <simak> If I just did an "export PATH="$PATH .... " to append a new path, and I entered the wrong path, how can I remove it at the CMD line?
[06:44] <Ng> :)
[06:44] <cello_rasp> slept: i dont always have access to the share. also security.
[06:44] <warpforge> bye guys. it's lunchtime
[06:44] <phreak97> irvin, it already says nvidia
[06:44] <phreak97> this is screwed
[06:44] <phreak97> and it's 4:14am
[06:45] <simak> how do I remove a path from my PATH in the shell?
[06:45] <trexis> ciao atutti
[06:45] <phreak97> im tired and i just wanted this to work before i went to bed
[06:45] <irvin> phreak97: try restarting X
[06:45] <trexis> ragazzi io non sono molto esperto di ubuntu
[06:45] <trexis> se ci sta qualcuno che mi potrebbe aiuare
[06:45] <thoreauputic> phreak97: you in SA ?
[06:45] <trexis> per una skystar2
[06:45] <phreak97> thanks for your help, both of you Seveas, irvin
[06:45] <slept> cello_rasp, so why shoud it be automatically if you don't have to access it always ? Its true that its not good to put the password in fstab
[06:45] <phreak97> thoreauputic, yeah
[06:46] <thoreauputic> phreak97: ah thought so - happy with internode?
[06:46] <trexis> qualcuno parla italiano??
[06:46] <dooglus> !it
[06:46] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:46] <thoreauputic> !it
[06:46] <hawking> what is the easiest way to test if sound is workin?
[06:46] <trexis> thanks
[06:46] <phreak97> theyre good, but we're swapping to adam internet in the next couple of weeks cos they have cheaper adsl2+
[06:46] <thoreauputic> hawking:  cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[06:46] <thoreauputic> hawking: :)
[06:47] <thoreauputic> phreak97: interesting
[06:47] <phreak97> thoreauputic, not alot more you can get from a host mask, is there:P
[06:47] <phreak97> where you from?
[06:47] <hawking> thoreaupitic :)
[06:47] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:47] <cello_rasp> slept: i mean via a desktop launcher w/ password. i want to do this because gnome doesnt mount smb stuff, it just handles the smb:// protocol which most linux programs cant deal with.
[06:47] <thoreauputic> phreak97: NSW
[06:47] <phreak97> ah, ok
[06:47] <phreak97> well, you sleep too
[06:48] <phreak97> ill be back tomorrow to keep trying at this
[06:48] <thegladiator> thoreauputic, i was trying to resolve that locale issue with warp , he asked me to install this package and still I do get this warning when i open any thing in gnome
[06:48] <thoreauputic> phreak97: I'm just waking up ;-)
[06:48] <thegladiator> (gedit:8705): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[06:48] <thegladiator> (gedit:8705): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[06:48] <thegladiator> whats the fix ?
[06:48] <phreak97> lol
[06:48] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: it's a warning, not an error
[06:48] <phreak97> 'night all
[06:48] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: I would leave well enough alone personally
[06:48] <thegladiator> thoreauputic, yeah , I thought I shud remove it ...coz its coming with every gnome ap
[06:49] <slept> cello_rasp, you can do mount -t smbfs .... put all that in a file make it executable and do it in a xterm , or set an alias for that command
[06:49] <thegladiator> thoreauputic, you have it ?
[06:49] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: let me check - can't remember - I usually ignore stuff like that :)
[06:49] <thegladiator> if its a simple thing I thought I'd rather set up
[06:50] <thegladiator> :) yep
[06:50] <moodog> Evening all.
[06:50] <cello_rasp> slept: only as root.
[06:50] <thegladiator> moodog, g'evening
[06:50] <Nelo> exit
[06:50] <Nelo> exit
[06:50] <Nelo> exit
[06:50] <slept> cello_rasp, maybe you can do it with pmount
[06:50] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: instead I get *** attempt to put segment in horiz list twice  heh
[06:51] <thegladiator> roflmao :)
[06:51] <thegladiator> i know its a warning , but its annoying as well
[06:51] <posu> Hi, newbie question: what do i do to get firefox versin 1.5.. ive done apt-get update then upgrade.. but still the old version
[06:51] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: if I run KDE apps I get a whole flood of such stuff in the terminal unless I turn debug off :D
[06:51] <sTo0z> i am having a problem with routes, everytime the machine restarts the routes are gone, is there no way to save them?
[06:51] <thegladiator> thoreauputic, i see
[06:52] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: remember that often those annoying messages can be useful if something needs fixing though
[06:52] <thegladiator> thoreauputic, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales is what someone suggested , but I get a list of 100 odd stuffs ...all of them looks equally appealing
[06:52] <Pyroti> Doesn't Ubuntu support Wireless lan cards?
[06:52] <thegladiator> thoreauputic, yes i know . debugs dhunt be turnde off
[06:52] <slept> cello_rasp, or just add a noauto,user to fstab I think that could work. There is komba2 for kde aswell wich works nice
[06:53] <thoreauputic> !wifi
[06:53] <ubotu> I guess wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:53] <Pyroti> ohh thank you
[06:53] <thegladiator> Pyroti, if its in the game its in the game , FIFA
[06:53] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:53] <thegladiator> thoreauputic, do you know this one ?sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[06:53] <cello_rasp> thx slept. i think maybe hacking a little with pmount might work.
[06:53] <thegladiator> thoreauputic, whats your locale set to ?
[06:53] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: yes
[06:54] <thegladiator> thoreauputic, i'll set the one you have set to
[06:54] <sTo0z> no one has set ip routes in here and has had the problem of not being able to save them? i find that hard to believe.. :P
[06:54] <trexis> sorry can you help me ?? i have a skystar2 ( sat device ) can you tell me why kaffeine don't see it??
[06:54] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
[06:55] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: but there is other stuff
[06:55] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: type  locales  to see
[06:55] <thegladiator> thoreauputic, let me see
[06:55] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: but don't paste it all ! *grin*
[06:55] <Pavix> Is there a way to make hotkeys like win. I want to be able to lock my system without clicking system, then lock first
[06:56] <thegladiator> thoreauputic, lol no . but when I give locale it says no command
[06:56] <hawking> is there a way to disable all Fn hotkeys ?
[06:56] <thoreauputic> locales
[06:56] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: plural :)
[06:56] <thegladiator> thegladiator@thegladiator:~$ locales
[06:56] <thegladiator> bash: locales: command not found
[06:56] <Madeye> guys, how can I set root password for ubuntu  LIVE ?
[06:56] <thegladiator> now is that also a package ?
[06:56] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: oh - very odd
[06:56] <thegladiator> yeah guess thats the problem
[06:56] <thoreauputic> !find locales
[06:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'locales' (8 shown): belocs-locales-bin ;; belocs-locales-data ;; gcc-4.0-locales ;; gimpprint-locales ;; icu-locales ;; locales ;; squirrelmail-locales ;; util-linux-locales.
[06:57] <thegladiator> finally we have come to root of the problem !
[06:57] <thoreauputic> util-linux-locales perhaps
[06:57] <thegladiator> thoreauputic, thats the package I shud install ?
[06:57] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: search in synaptic
[06:57] <thegladiator> yes
[06:58] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: I don't know - dpkg -l util-linux-locales  will tell you if it is installed or not
[06:58] <thoreauputic> there is a locales package as well
[06:58] <trexis> have someone a link to i can read a skystar2 guide??
[06:58] <trexis> thnaks
[06:58] <thegladiator> locales package is installed
[06:59] <thegladiator> i am installing the package thoreauputic
[06:59] <thegladiator> thats the warning I get perhaps ?
[06:59] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: maybe try apt-cache search language-packs as well
[06:59] <thegladiator> thoreauputic, language-pack-en is installed
[07:00] <thoreauputic> hmm dunno then
[07:00] <thegladiator> ah
[07:00] <thegladiator> thoreauputic, which is the one for america ?
[07:00] <thegladiator> thoreauputic, i mean the locales
[07:00] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: did you not choose a language when you installed the system?
[07:01] <thegladiator> thoreauputic, i am not sure on that actually . thats y i am struggling now
[07:01] <thoreauputic> probably something like en_US-utf8
[07:01] <thegladiator> thoreauputic, yep let me see . i guess i choese INdia and hindi is he lang here
[07:01] <thegladiator> but I wouldnt install that !
[07:02] <thoreauputic> there should be something like en_IN.UTF8
[07:02] <simak> When I start UBUNTU I get a .dmrc error -- what is this?
[07:03] <thoreauputic> simak: that would be a gdm startup file for your login screen Ithink
[07:03] <LostFrog> Is there a howto somewhere for booting the Ubuntu PowerPC LiveCD?
[07:03] <sTo0z> thoreauputic: no idea on saving routes on ubuntu?
[07:03] <thoreauputic> LostFrog: just hold down the C key on boot
[07:03] <LostFrog> thoreauputic: Thanks.
[07:04] <thoreauputic> sTo0z: not really, sorry
[07:04] <simak> thoreauputic, all that's in the file is:  [Desktop] 
[07:04] <simak> Session=default --what's in yours?
[07:04] <thegladiator> thoreauputic, yes thats correct mate
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> LostFrog,  on my imac that 'C' key trick dident work. :(
[07:04] <LostFrog> I have a B&W G3
[07:04] <thegladiator> thoreauputic, i am now swtting it up
[07:05] <LostFrog> I will try it soon.
[07:05] <simak> can someone send me their .dmrc file?
[07:05] <posu> I just got to know that there's no firefox 1.5 in Breezy..sad
[07:05] <thoreauputic> simak: what does ls -al ~/.dmrc  say ?
[07:05] <thegladiator> still that warning comes up thoreauputic , nothing to bother you mean ?
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> simak,  its 2 lines  on my system showing the 'default' desktop you have selevted
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> simak,  just rename the file it woll probelry remake it.
[07:05] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: running out of ideas, sorry ;)
[07:05] <simak> Dr_Willis,
[07:06] <simak> [Desktop] 
[07:06] <simak> Session=default
[07:06] <simak> is this right>
[07:06] <thegladiator> np :)
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> Session=kde
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> is what mine says..
[07:06] <thoreauputic> simak: what is the output of the command I asked you to type?
[07:06] <simak> -rw-------  1 phil phil 26 2005-11-26 18:19 .dmrc
[07:06] <thoreauputic> hmm looks OK
[07:06] <vaksas> hello, i have a strange problem in ubuntu v5.10. Everything works well..but suddenly i can not load any program..i thought it was Gnome's fault, but i can't do anything in command line too. It starts loading and does nothing. Why is that?
[07:06] <Seveas> simak, ls -ald ~
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> so its just remberign your 'default' selection.. so  i still say delete the file and let gdm remake it
[07:06] <thegladiator> thoreauputic, thanks for the help though .  :/ njoy
[07:06] <Seveas> what does that say?
[07:07] <thoreauputic> ah Seveas is on the ball :) my next question was anticipated !
[07:07] <simak> Seveas, -rw-------  1 phil phil 26 2005-11-26 18:19 .dmrc
[07:07] <Znort> vaksas: does this occur every time you start up?
[07:07] <alekandr> can gdesklets be run as root? I cant see to get it running, no displays will show, and when i su - nonrootuser and type gdesklets i get the DISPLAY not defined error
[07:07] <Seveas> simak, that's not what I asked
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> -rw-------  1 willis willis 22 2006-01-10 00:24 .dmrc
[07:07] <Seveas> simak, ls -ald ~
[07:07] <LostFrog> What you say, Willis?
[07:07] <thoreauputic> simak: you left out the d and he wanted ~
[07:07] <simak> Seveas, drwxrwxrwx  56 phil phil 4096 2006-01-11 11:40 /home/phil
[07:07] <vaksas> Znarl, it happend for the 2nd time in 2 days. but doesn't happen everytime i start up
[07:07] <Seveas> right
[07:08] <Seveas> simak, chmod og-w ~
[07:08] <MeTaLL> heya guys
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> alekandr,   its proberly a bad idea to run them as root.
[07:08] <Seveas> you cannot have a worldwritable homedir
[07:08] <MeTaLL> someone can help me with a question?
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> alekandr,   well it IS  a bad idea to run them as root.
[07:08] <simak> Seveas, well what's the og-w all about?
[07:08] <LostFrog> simak: set group and other unwritable.
[07:08] <thoreauputic> simak: removes write from others and group
[07:08] <Seveas> simak, that removes word write privilegesm whuch should not be there
[07:08] <alekandr> Dr_Willis: I only have my root account, i hate normal accounts, as im too lazy to sudo all the time
[07:08] <MeTaLL> i have XP on my comp (for playing silkroad), and now i want to install ubuntu aswell
[07:09] <cdubya> where does cups keep all the ppd files for printers that are setup?
[07:09] <MeTaLL> does it make a multiboot, or must i edit lilo after i install ubuntu
[07:09] <Dreamglider> i get a notification on updates, there are 17 updates avalible and when i press the icon and enter the root password nothing happens!
[07:09] <Seveas> cdubya, slocate ppd
[07:09] <simak> Seveas, are the following default permissions?
[07:09] <simak> drwxrwxrwx  56 phil phil 4096 2006-01-11 11:40 /home/phil
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> alekandr,  if you know 'eough' to do such a nasty thing.. good luck..
[07:09] <siliconwizzard> can anybody tell me hoe to upgrade from roary to breezy?
[07:09] <Seveas> simak, no, you changed that yourself
[07:09] <mooze> hi
[07:09] <cdubya> Seveas, thx
[07:09] <omer> hello guys,please help me!how can i connect to internet under vmware with ubuntu?
[07:09] <Seveas> !breezy
[07:09] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:09] <moquist> does Ubuntu store static routes in a config file somewhere?  somebody's asking me and I have no idea, other than that gateways should be set in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:09] <Seveas> ^-- siliconwizzard
[07:09] <siliconwizzard> thx
[07:09] <simak> Seveas, maybe I did--guess you solved yet another of my probems!
[07:09] <foresight> I can't access the sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg command..it just exits right away.
[07:10] <alekandr> Dr_Willis: I wont bork something Im not stupid, well, gdesklets wont load as root, nor if i su
[07:10] <jacoplane> Question: I've got a USB Soundcard (IMIC) that I'm trying to get to work. I think I might need to load the usb audio module ... but I have no idea how. Anyone?
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> alekandr,  it may be a security feature of gdesklets.
[07:10] <hawking> is there a possibility that someday this channel will be unbanned for tor users? I can't connect to here from my dormitory :/
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> alekandr,    wont bork anything.. :P heh 'famous last words'
[07:10] <simak> Seveas, is the following correct (default) permission?
[07:10] <simak> drwxr-xr-x  56 phil phil 4096 2006-01-11 11:40 /home/phil
[07:10] <Seveas> hawking, no
[07:10] <Seveas> simak, yes
[07:10] <omer> hello guys,please help me!how can i connect to internet under vmware with ubuntu?
[07:10] <vamist> hello
[07:11] <simak> Seveas, will this prevent apps from running out of my local ~/bin?
[07:11] <alekandr> Dr_Willis: :shh: Ive done it before, and honestly, a format and reinstall doesnt bother me, its fun :] 
[07:11] <Dreamglider> jacoplane, try booting with the soundcard insterted, it worked with me
[07:11] <Seveas> simak, no
[07:11] <vamist> i have a problem with ubuntu installation.. can someone help me?
[07:11] <hawking> Seveas : I see
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> alekandr,  unless your rm  -rf mistake takes out   the whole network. :P seen it happen.,...
[07:11] <Seveas> hawking, there's too much abuse from tor users
[07:11] <alekandr> omer: user NAT as your network connection type when configured the GUEST operating system on vmware!
[07:11] <Seveas> hawking, get yourself a personal cloak and use that :)
[07:12] <Blippe> what is the "alternatives" to automatix
[07:12] <Seveas> Blippe, a brain
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> Seveas,  :P
[07:12] <alekandr> Dr_Willis: I rm -rf /* 'd one night because I was bored ;)
[07:12] <Blippe> nice one..
[07:12] <omer> i am training alekandr
[07:12] <vamist> the install freezes at this message:input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0
[07:12] <Blippe> so easy-something...
[07:12] <vamist> what can I do?
[07:12] <Seveas> Blippe, seriously, reading docs and thinking is a far better replacement than script that ruin your system
[07:12] <simak> Seveas,  if this .dmrc problem on boot came up again, how would I know that it was actually the group permissions of ~?
[07:12] <thoreauputic> Blippe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation   ;)
[07:13] <Seveas> simak, the wording of that message is bad, I should file a bug about it
[07:13] <vamist> noone can help me?
[07:13] <vamist> the install freezes at this message: "input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0"
[07:13] <foresight> I can't access the sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg command..it just exits right away.
[07:14] <hawking> Seveas : yeah I have my nice sweet shell account for such cases :)
[07:14] <simak> Seveas, you know this .dmrc thing because you just happen to know?
[07:14] <squid0> hi. anyone have any experience with freeciv>
[07:14] <squid0> ?
[07:14] <Seveas> simak, it has happened to more people, the first time it took me an hour to figure it out
[07:14] <Dreamglider> when i do "sudo apt-get update" nothing happens, still here are 17 updates available!!
[07:14] <jenda> squid0: is some drunkard's XP enough?
[07:14] <simak> Seveas, it took me an hour too!  Thanks.
[07:15] <Answer> On my server I am noticing some leftover sshd and -bash processes, associated with users who have been idle for a long time.  Is there a way to kill processes by user so that I dont have to type all the pids ?
[07:15] <Seveas> simak, can you paste the errormessage again
[07:15] <Prozac> Dreamglider do sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:15] <Seveas> I need it for a bugreport
[07:15] <tarvid> during ubuntu install, dhcp fails but I see an offer in my dhcp server logs
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> Dreamglider,  try the 'upgrade' option to actually install the updates
[07:16] <Prozac> update will just update the list
[07:16] <tarvid> any ideas on debugging
[07:16] <Answer> tarvid: dhclient
[07:16] <Dreamglider> Prozac, same deal nothing happens
[07:16] <Majdaa> hello
[07:16] <omer> alekandr the problem is countinuing
[07:16] <vamist> the install freezes at this message: "input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0"
[07:16] <Majdaa> i just  i burnt the cd, but it didn't boot from it when i restart it
[07:16] <tarvid> Answer, whatever ubuntu uses during the install
[07:16] <omer> i can not connect to internet
[07:17] <lxIT> Hello everyone
[07:17] <simak> Seveas, is this message logged somewhere where I can get it for you?
[07:17] <Answer> tarvid: you can run dhclient <interface> to manually dhcp
[07:17] <jordo23> Anyone know if there is a package name for XViD codecs for UBUNTU?
[07:17] <Seveas> simak, ~/.xssession-errors or something like that
[07:17] <tarvid> Answer, I'll try that
[07:17] <lxIT> Is there a PHP4 package for Ubuntu 5.10?
[07:18] <Seveas> lxIT, yes
[07:18] <Seveas> !info php4
[07:18] <ubotu> php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 4:4.4.0-3ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 24 kB
[07:18] <thoreauputic> Answer: not sure, but I think pgrep -u username will return processes of that user
[07:18] <Seveas> !info libapache2-mod-php4
[07:18] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 4:4.4.0-3ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1515 kB, Installed size: 3096 kB
[07:18] <lxIT> oke, thanks, because I can't find it with "apt-cache search php" > only returns PHP5-packages
[07:18] <omer> will anyone help me,i can not connect to internet under vmware with ubuntu
[07:18] <Majdaa> i just  burnt the ubuntu cd, but it didn't boot from it when i restart it
[07:18] <lxIT> !info php4
[07:18] <omer> will anyone help me,i can not connect to internet under vmware with ubuntu
[07:18] <Seveas> lxIT, enable universe :)
[07:18] <ubotu> php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 4:4.4.0-3ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 24 kB
[07:19] <thoreauputic> Answer: hmm or maybe -U  ( man pgrep)
[07:19] <Blippe> !weather stockholm, sweden
[07:19] <jordo23> Does anyone know where i can get xvid codecs for Ubuntu?
[07:19] <LostFrog> omer: obviously no-one can/will help you.
[07:19] <lxIT> Seveas: what's universe? (sorry, normally I use Debian, but it doesn't run on my newest Shuttle)
[07:19] <Answer> thoreauputic: it's all the same username, but I think I found a way to do it by tty.   kill -9 `ps -t <tty> -o "pid="`
[07:19] <Seveas> !tell jordo23 about w32codecs
[07:19] <Seveas> !tell lxIT about universe
[07:19] <simak> Seveas, there is no ".dmrc" in the .xsession_errors file
[07:19] <alekandr> omer: restart vmware completely, and make sure when you load it again that it uses NAT
[07:19] <cisoxx> Hello, I am trying to create a debian repository and am new to gnupg and such. I signed my Release files with gnupg and I added my key on the remote machine with apt-key, but I get an error saying something about a conflicting distribution
[07:20] <Seveas> simak, no sweat, I'll just mess up my system to get the error
[07:20] <thoreauputic> Answer:  kill $(pgrep -u username sshd)    ?
[07:20] <spotted> Hello.
[07:20] <spotted> How do I change the fontcolor into white in aterm?
[07:20] <lxIT> Seveas: sorry to be an annoying "newbie", but I don't get response on "!info php4" (I got response on your "!tell" command)
[07:20] <spotted> I see everything black
[07:20] <spotted> :\
[07:20] <omer> alendr i did it nat
[07:20] <simak> Seveas, gosh, I sorry I can't find it.  Can I grep my whole ~ to find it?
[07:20] <Dreamglider> Dr_Willis, http://img499.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1wq.png nothing happens with apt-get upgrade either!
[07:20] <Xenguy> Answer: don't know if this applies to you, but there is an app called 'slay' that kills users and all their processes
[07:21] <Seveas> lxIT, that's because ubotu does not reply to the same question more than once every X seconds
[07:21] <photonics> hello
[07:21] <lxIT> Seveas: oke, thanks!!
[07:21] <simak> I want to learn abotu makefiles for gcc.  Where do I go on IRC?
[07:21] <lxIT> I'll start reading and I'll be back with more questions (if they arise ;o))
[07:22] <omer> alekandr i use nat but the problem already continious
[07:22] <thoreauputic> Answer: looks like pkill would also work..
[07:22] <spotted> Can anyone tell me how to turn the fonts in aterm from black to white?
[07:22] <alekandr> omer: Make sure that vmet8 is loaded, modprobe vmnet8
[07:22] <spotted> I can't read anything
[07:23] <thoreauputic> spotted:  for example  aterm -fg white -bg black
[07:23] <omer> i am looking alekandr
[07:23] <yggdrasil_> how do i google a website
[07:23] <simak> I screwed up my path by adding the wrong /newpaths to it.  Where is it so I can repair it in emacs?
[07:23] <thoreauputic> spotted: many other possibilities in man aterm
[07:23] <Jazs> if i have 2 partitions  , 1 with windows and the other with ubuntu , are any posibility to share  the sames files??
[07:23] <alekandr> Question time: If I had the non root user to the root usergroup, GID 0, what happens, does that user get root powers?
[07:23] <spotted> thoreauputic, I have got that but the font is still black
[07:23] <foresight> I can't access the sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg command..it just exits right away.
[07:23] <Seveas> alekandr, no
[07:23] <sproingie> alekandr: group 0 has no special properties
[07:23] <thoreauputic> spotted: very odd
[07:24] <alekandr> Man
[07:24] <sproingie> group 0 is root's user-private group
[07:24] <Jazs> if i have 2 partitions  , 1 with windows and the other with ubuntu , are any posibility to share  the sames files??
[07:24] <vamist> i'm the only one who can noot install ubuntu??
[07:24] <thoreauputic> spotted: just ran that here and it worked fine...
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> Jazs,  several ways
[07:24] <alekandr> I want to add a non root user to root, or at least give it as much control as possible, is that possible Seveas, sproingie ?
[07:24] <Jazs> how can i make it_
[07:24] <vamist> i heard that is a great distro and i can't install it :(
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> Jazs,  linux can 'read only' the ntfs partition.
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[07:25] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[07:25] <Seveas> alekandr, no
[07:25] <thoreauputic> spotted: try  aterm -rv  ( reverse video)
[07:25] <sproingie> alekandr: there's no such notion in unix as there is in windows.  you want to edit the sudoers file and use sudo
[07:25] <Jazs> and windows can read ext3 files?
[07:25] <sproingie> !tell alekandr about sudo
[07:25] <carcamo> hi
[07:25] <alekandr> I know what sudo is
[07:25] <alekandr> man
[07:25] <alekandr> I dont want to sudo
[07:25] <Jazs> Dr_Willis, and windows can read ext3 files?
[07:25] <Dr_Willis> Jazs, http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html it can access the linux partitions
[07:25] <lowman62> g'aftnoon tech support room ;)
[07:25] <MeTaLL> maybe make a fat32 partition, to share files between tux, winhoos
[07:25] <Jazs> ok thanks Dr_Willis
[07:26] <sproingie> alekandr: you can give the user uid 0 if you want, but i guarantee it will confuse all hell out of most apps who will still think your name is root
[07:26] <Jazs> ok thanks
[07:26] <sproingie> alekandr: otherwise, what you're asking for is not possible
[07:26] <alekandr> Someone rewrite gdesklets, and remove the root security check!
[07:26] <paladinew> is there a somewhat simple way to get a SECURE / encrypted remote desktop connection from 1 ubuntu box to another? I'm not having any luck tryong FreeNX
[07:26] <alekandr> Ill give you a kiss for you ;)
[07:26] <thoreauputic> alekandr: root is root - you can get a root shell with sudo -i
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> alekandr,  go ahead...
[07:26] <Jazs> is any steam version to linux_
[07:27] <lxIT> Should I enable only the "universe"-sources or do I need the "default" repos also?
[07:27] <spotted> :ExecCommand aterm -name aterm -sl 3000 -tr +sb -sr -sk -bg black -fg \
[07:27] <spotted> white -fade 90 -bl -tn xterm -fn \
[07:27] <spotted> -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-c-*-iso8859-15 -g 116x57
[07:27] <alekandr> FOR THE LAST TIME: I know what sudo is ok
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> alekandr,  go find the linspire version of the packages :P
[07:27] <spotted> That's what I have
[07:27] <Seveas> alekandr, if you want to run as root all the time: use linspire
[07:27] <MeTaLL> steam can be runned with cedega i think
[07:27] <sproingie> alekandr: it's not possible to create multiple root users.  the end.
[07:27] <alekandr> I run as root all the time now.
[07:27] <cleo> why doesn't vim delete temporary files? I got several config files with "~" suffix here
[07:27] <thoreauputic> alekandr: our mind reading isn't working well today - and please don't shout
[07:27] <alekandr> I just cant run a specific program, because it wont be run as root
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> cleo,  i think so it can recover in case of a crash
[07:28] <alekandr> thoreauputic: shut up
[07:28] <Jazs> MeTaLL, but cedega is payed
[07:28] <sproingie> alekandr: ok, just FOAD then
[07:28] <HappyFool> cleo: aren't those backup files?
[07:28] <thoreauputic> idiot
[07:28] <cleo> don't know :)
[07:28] <Seveas> thoreauputic, CoC...
[07:28] <MeTaLL> yup cedega is payed, sry for that, i guess its the only option u have
[07:28] <MeTaLL> maybe u try wine
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> im supprised he hasent been getting yelled at for even suggesting such a thing. :P
[07:28] <cleo> HappyFool: do you now how to disable this?
[07:28] <sproingie> he picked the wrong guy to get lippy with
[07:28] <paladinew> is there a somewhat simple way to get a SECURE / encrypted remote desktop connection from 1 ubuntu box to another? I'm not having any luck tryong FreeNX
[07:28] <Jazs> yeah thanks
[07:28] <MeTaLL> but i think thats not working
[07:29] <thoreauputic> Seveas: hah - you don't gag peole when they are insulting?
[07:29] <Seveas> thoreauputic, yes, but I don't insult back publicly
[07:29] <Jazs> i think not
[07:29] <lowman62> paladinew: ssh
[07:29] <HappyFool> cleo: no. there are a few hardcore vim users here; maybe they know
[07:29] <Jazs> maybe i can make rpgm cedega free version
[07:29] <Jazs> and compile it
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> the cvs cedega maybe lacking a few features..
[07:30] <alekandr> That was uncalled for, I never asked for your interferance, and it wasnt intended to look as If i were shouting
[07:30] <lowman62> whatis cedega?
[07:30] <lxIT> !help universe
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> lowman62,  a comercial variant of wine thats designed to play games mainly
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> lowman62,  some have good success with it.. others not so good.
[07:31] <lxIT> !info universe
[07:31] <MeTaLL> especialy dx games
[07:31] <paladinew> lowman62: I wasn't having much luck finding any good tuturials on setting up a remote ssh session
[07:31] <lowman62> oh cool! thx Dr_Willis
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> lowman62,  used to be called "WineX"
[07:31] <vamist> I want to install ubuntu and my system freezes... can someone help me PLEASE!!!
[07:31] <lowman62> oh i have heard of that before
[07:31] <lxIT> !easysource
[07:31] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:31] <crimsun> vamist: where does it freeze?
[07:32] <vamist> when the installer start at the message: "input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0"
[07:32] <lowman62> what do you think of crossover..is it any good for games?
[07:32] <MeTaLL> k i go watch lost now, after that i go install :)
[07:32] <xored> how to show the current print-spool ?
[07:32] <MeTaLL> games and crossover, doesnt work
[07:32] <Seveas> xored, lpq
[07:33] <thegladiator> i have got a divx movie - green mile . but the sound is not in syn with the video
[07:33] <vamist> crimsun> any ideea how to solve this?
[07:33] <lowman62> well i am not a gamer but was just wondering *shrugs*
[07:33] <thegladiator> how can I correct this ?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> i use cedega with a lot of windows apps - not just games.
[07:33] <thegladiator> like adjust the sound ?
[07:33] <paladinew> Anyone know a good tuturial on setting up ssh remote desktop connections ?
[07:33] <lowman62> thegladiator: I had to enable dma to stop that myself
[07:33] <MeTaLL> maybe u must dl, the codecs for it?
[07:33] <xored> Seveas: its seems, somhow it stucked. How can i debug / restart
[07:34] <thegladiator> lowman62, guess its a odd case . whats with dma ? how can I do that ?
[07:34] <alekandr> Dr_Willis: by any chance, have you gotten steam to work under cedega?
[07:34] <thegladiator> lowman62, it was happening with every movie you played  ? guess for me this movie only has the prob not ny other
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> alekandr,  i gave up on HL2 under windows due to the stream bull#$$#@
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> alekandr,  i do hear it works however.
[07:35] <alekandr> Dr_Willis: I miss playing CS:S
[07:35] <lowman62> thegladiator: hold on I have to go back to my desktop to find that for you...and yes it happened no matter what type of movie I watched ...was like old kung fu movies where the lips never matched LOL brb
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> alekandr,  i dont miss it much :P
[07:35] <thegladiator> lol yep
[07:36] <alekandr> Dr_Willis: america's army, and et, is all you need ;)
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> alekandr,  i perfer the various emulators.
[07:37] <Dreamglider> can anyone help me updating my laptop, i tried apt-get update and upgrade, and nothing happens :/
[07:37] <Nei> my system is currently in a bit bad shape, 'sudo' hangs
[07:38] <Nei> would anyone hapen to know whether I have any chance tofind out what's going wrong?
[07:38] <paladinew> Does anyone know a step by step tuturial for setting up SSH, and forwarding the remote desktop ports over the connection ?
[07:38] <xored> how to reset the printer sppol or delete a specific job ?
[07:38] <alekandr> <3 no-ip.com <3
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> xored,  lpq, and lprm commands
[07:39] <thegladiator> lowman62, for me the problem with just a single mvoie
[07:39] <thegladiator> movie*
[07:39] <MeTaLL> ssh port forwarding help here ---> http://librenix.com/?inode=695
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> paladinew,  the gnome remote desktop uses vnc i belive. theres dosens of ssh tutorial/tips/sites out .
[07:39] <thegladiator> it could be the problem with the file I suspect
[07:40] <thegladiator> hence any playes like virtual dub for windows in linux ?
[07:40] <thegladiator> to syn sound with video for movies in which they dont match ?>
[07:40] <thegladiator> sync*
[07:41] <xored> Dr_Willis: thank you
[07:41] <MeTaLL> if its only that particular movie, i would say its the codecs, but all movies could indeed be your dma settings
[07:41] <Pyroti> okay.. the file-roller won't extract my tar.. (which I copied from a windows machine using a USB key.. don't got any access to the internet from a linux box, so I sorta had to do that..) what could I do? I can't use the tar command either.. it spits out "gzip: stdin: not in gzip format | tar: Child returned status 1 | tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors"
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Pyroti,  try 'file filename.tar' and see what kind of file it says it is.
[07:42] <thegladiator> MeTaLL, only this movie
[07:42] <thegladiator> but if the movie works well , it could be the codecs ?
[07:43] <MeTaLL> if only this movie is not in sync, then i think u need to search for the newest codecs
[07:43] <Pyroti> Dr_Willis: POSIX tar archive
[07:43] <thegladiator> ok
[07:43] <MeTaLL> mostly the codecs will give u this kind of troubles, no sound or unsynced sound
[07:44] <thegladiator> dont know what codecs though this is just a avi file
[07:44] <thegladiator> i installed the common codecs
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> Pyroti,  perhaps its not gzipped
[07:44] <omer> hahaaaaahah
[07:44] <xored> 3 ringer fr einen netten 5on5 freundschaftskrieg. Am besten jetzt ;)
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> tar xvf ffilename
[07:44] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:44] <thegladiator> lowman62, thanks for the help . its time for me to leave .
[07:44] <Pyroti> Thank you, Dr_Willis :)
[07:44] <MeTaLL> try looking for the ACEcodecs, they worked for me
[07:44] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <aliquis> ugh ugh, does anyone know why i get this in ubuntu 5.10?
[07:45] <aliquis> hagge@c-20c670d5:~$ ssh-agent -s
[07:45] <aliquis> bind: Permission denied
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> Pyroti,  heh - its always the little things that get ya :P
[07:45] <thegladiator> acecodecs is in synaptic ?
[07:45] <yggdrasil_> does somone have a cdkey for ubunut i can get ?
[07:45] <pewp> does ubuntu come with selinux?
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> 0_o
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <MeTaLL> nope, u better look in some torrent sites for it
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <omer> thank you very much alekandr
[07:45] <Pyroti> omer..
[07:45] <yggdrasil_> thanks meall ill do that
[07:45] <aliquis> wtf..
[07:45] <pewp> does ubuntu come with selinux?
[07:45] <pewp> ??
[07:45] <thegladiator> yep. and it has to be compile from source or something ?
[07:46] <MeTaLL> if its good, they come compiled and as source
[07:46] <thegladiator> thank you
[07:46] <thegladiator> i shall try it out
[07:46] <MeTaLL> but i need to go sry, frind is waiting in car outside, lol
[07:46] <jimmy_> hi, when i try to install the j2sdk1.4 (this is the sun jdk right?) i get the following error (synaptic):  403 Forbidden (seveas repository)
[07:46] <thegladiator> have a blast
[07:46] <thegladiator> cya
[07:46] <MeTaLL> good luck :)
[07:46] <thegladiator> to you too :)
[07:47] <aliquis> i see this interweb is new in uganda?
[07:47] <Seveas> omer, do that again and you're out
[07:47] <Seveas> !tell jimmy_ about seveas
[07:47] <manicka> pewp: it has the selinux libraries
[07:48] <hawking> I can't run the sound of a program of me and amarok at the same time... one gives gstreamer-error... how can i fix that?
[07:48] <jimmy_> thx
[07:48] <trexis> hi
[07:49] <trexis> can you install skystar2 ?'
[07:49] <trexis> i need help
[07:49] <trexis> please
[07:49] <Seveas> trexis, what is that?
[07:49] <trexis> tha is a sat pci
[07:49] <sally_> why does cpufreqd conflict with powernowd?
[07:50] <Seveas> sally_, bacause they provide the same functionality
[07:50] <thegladiator> my windowshas some virus will it affect ubuntu ?
[07:50] <rocketman327> no
[07:50] <thegladiator> AVG doesnt heal  it
[07:50] <sally_> Seveas, how do I know which one I should use?
[07:50] <rocketman327> well it depends on what the virus does but most likely not
[07:50] <thegladiator> it wont affect at all rocketman327  ?
[07:51] <thegladiator> yes the file system is diff
[07:51] <Seveas> trexis, hmm, never dealed eith those, I think goole.com/search?q=skystar+linux is the best step
[07:51] <thegladiator> hence I was assuming the same
[07:51] <rocketman327> thegladiator: well if it trashes your hd then yea it will effect linux but it can't spread to linux
[07:51] <\sh> thegladiator: it will affect ubuntu in this way, that you can now happily mkfs.xfs /dev/<your windows partition> you don't need it anymore :)
[07:51] <rocketman327> \sh: lol
[07:52] <thegladiator> :/ i expected this answer from someone :)
[07:52] <trexis> ok
[07:52] <thegladiator> glad u didnt dissapoint :p
[07:52] <thegladiator> rocketman327, are there virus that goes beyond FAT ?:)
[07:52] <\sh> thegladiator: well..thinking of the WMF issue inside wine..will give me the thought that windows in common is not a good idea :)
[07:52] <pal_> Seveas can you please paste again the command for header files (vmware) i need it again
[07:52] <rocketman327> hey, i'm trying to compile a kernel and I have two questions.  why is the i2c compiling as a module when I don't want it to compile at all and second why is a basic file like i2c-core.c throwing errors and not compiling?
[07:53] <thegladiator> :)
[07:53] <rocketman327> thegladiator: yea, but its a rare thing
[07:53] <Seveas> pal_, apt-get install gcc-3.4 linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:53] <thegladiator> thanks rocketman327
[07:53] <thegladiator> thanks \sh
[07:53] <\sh> thegladiator: no...the logic behind xfs, ext2 etc. are too big for those viruses...most of the time "those viruses are simple bugs inside the scripting engine of windows"
[07:53] <pal_> thanks Seveas
[07:53] <thegladiator> yes thank you i was guessing the same
[07:53] <rocketman327> thegladiator: those usually effect things like web browsers and don't go further than web browsers in linux because the code to corrupt the os is for windows
[07:54] <hawking> anyone knows how I can make two programs give sound without giving any gstreamer-error? I use ALSA
[07:54] <rocketman327> hawking: like mixing the two sounds?  or one playing while the other is stopped?
[07:54] <hawking> rocketman237 : mixing
[07:55] <hawking> rocketman237 : or if that's not possible playing one while other is stopped
[07:56] <rocketman327> hawking: not really sure, thats an also thing... I think my other computer does it for some things (audio cd's seem to trump all) let me check my alsa config file
[07:56] <hawking> k
[07:58] <user__> hi
[07:58] <netstar> better protend to be sleeping bbl
[07:58] <Dreamglider> http://pastebin.com/501216
[07:59] <LostFrog> ok. holding down C on my Mac gets me to yaboot, but it complains about an unkown or corrupt filesystem.
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> LostFrog,  you sure that older mac ya got can read cd+r or cd-rw or cd-r?
[08:00] <sally_> I set VERBOSE=yes in /etc/default/rcS... what file is the extra debug output in?
[08:00] <rocketman327> hawking: I'm not sure... have you just tried it?  I seem to remember wanting that and one day it just worked
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> LostFrog,  fought all day with a laptop once  because of that.
[08:00] <jorgp> anyone familiar with hal config
[08:00] <hawking> rocketman327 : so if I wish it so much will it work some day? :)
[08:01] <LostFrog> I could try swapping it out.
[08:01] <rocketman327> hawking: lol, I'll keep checking
[08:01] <LostFrog> Let me try that.
[08:01] <lowman62> thegladiator: are you still here?
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> LostFrog,  other then that.. no clue..or the cd is bad/bad burn/bad iso file
[08:01] <LostFrog> I can read it in Windoze.
[08:02] <rocketman327> so anyone have any idea why basic kernel files are throwing compiler errors?
[08:02] <lowman62> rocketman327: I seen that one before...did you try updating gcc?
[08:03] <hawking> so no Alsa users here know how to get rid of this gstreamer-error device is busy message?
[08:03] <rocketman327> lowman62: no, but that I shall do... ummm... how do I do that? (its probably something simple)  is it that icon telling me about updates in the upper corner?
[08:03] <lowman62> hawking: is that in amaroK that you are having that trouble?
[08:04] <lowman62> rocketman327: sudo apt-get install gcc ...I guess
[08:04] <rocketman327> thanks
[08:04] <hawking> lowman : yes
[08:04] <rocketman327> lowman62: it says its the newest version
[08:05] <lowman62> hawking: what i did was this...
[08:05] <lowman62> hawking: I selected xine as the engine and clicked apply..then it allowed me to select alsa...click apply and it should work
[08:05] <hawking> lemme try
[08:06] <lowman62> hawking: just use the defaults it gives you for alsa
[08:06] <hawking> lowman62 : so I'Ll have to get xine right?
[08:06] <lowman62> hawking: that gstreamer engine was flying through my mp3 list like it was on acid LOL
[08:07] <lowman62> yes get gxine
[08:07] <LostFrog> How do I lose a CD in 5 minutes time?
[08:07] <rocketman327> lowman62: any idea why it wants to build i2c as a module when I don't need it?  (I commented it out in the .config file but it changes it)
[08:07] <lowman62> rocketman327: it may possibly be a dependency file
[08:07] <hawking> lowman62 : u said gxine or was that a typo? I mean did u mean xine?
[08:08] <slippn> Does anyone here know how to set wlan params with iwconfig?  I'm using the newest linux-source-2.6.15 and ndiswrapper, wlan0 is up, but iwconfig (v27 and v28) cannot set params (no v19 support)... any ideas?
[08:08] <greenpenguin13> my friend seems to be having trouble with his screen resolution
[08:08] <lowman62> hawking: sudo apt-get install xine ;)
[08:08] <Dreamglider> how can i fix my laptop wich wont update if i type sudo apt-get update nor upgrade, Synaptic wont start and update manager wont run either!
[08:08] <rocketman327> lowman62: what do you mean?  dependency to what?
[08:08] <sally_> has no one ever set VERBOSE in /etc/default/rcS ?
[08:08] <hawking> lowman62 : that was clear enough :)
[08:08] <rocketman327> hawking: awesome!
[08:08] <hawking> rocketman327 : indeed
[08:09] <jorgp> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[08:09] <nagyv> Dreamglider, sorry, but are they installed?
[08:09] <Dreamglider> nagyv, synaptic and update manager are installed
[08:09] <slippn> is there any wireless tools that could set params for drivers with v19 of wireless extensions?
[08:09] <greenpenguin13> his x log says that its ignoring a request to load glcore
[08:10] <lowman62> rocketman327: the one thing I have found about installing in linux is that a lot of installs require some form of unwanted cr@p <--pardon my winglish :P
[08:10] <bart__> Just found out about a programm called Gdesklet,, pity is that the website containing those widgets doesn't have a lot of them, does somebody know another source to get them from?
[08:10] <nagyv> are you trying to run synaptic from the console? Is there any output?
[08:10] <yggdrasil_> is therea good how to for dual monitor setup ?
[08:10] <greenpenguin13> and "fails to detect secondary monitor" which he doesnt have
[08:10] <rocketman327> lowman62: i'm not installing anything, i'm compiling a kernel
[08:10] <lowman62> rocketman327: why is a good question...the answer is ..*shrugs* :P
[08:11] <rocketman327> lowman62: np, I'll figure it out
[08:11] <lowman62> rocketman327: did you update your gcc?
[08:11] <Dreamglider> nagyv, in shell, apt-get update and upgrade dont give any output
[08:11] <rocketman327> lowman62: this can't be anymore complicated than gentoo
[08:11] <bwlang> whoa - updated dapper and it freaked out on reboot with an old initrd - couldn't find /dev/hda2  booting without initrd let me come up and rebuild the kernel - which works okay.  Is this a bug?
[08:11] <nagyv> Dreamglider, are you root?
[08:12] <yggdrasil_> what is this dapper i keep hearing about
[08:12] <lowman62> rocketman327: nah! I tried gentoo...this should be a dream in comparison
[08:12] <nagyv> Dreamglider, or you are sudoing?
[08:12] <Dreamglider> nagyv, i use usdo yes
[08:12] <Dreamglider> nagyv, sudo **
[08:13] <bwlang> yggdrasil_: it's a test version of ubuntu
[08:13] <greenpenguin13> he only gets a really low screen resolution as an option, but higher ones are in xorg.conf
[08:13] <rocketman327> lowman62: so far it has been, I'm really enjoying this for my laptop.  but I will have to stick with gentoo on my desktop cause i'm a control freak and I have it setup just perfect for me after many years of hard work
[08:13] <yggdrasil_> oh i see
[08:13] <hawking> lowman62 : there is a nicer package amarok-xine -- xine engine for amarok :)
[08:13] <ian_> server irc.flock.com
[08:13] <nagyv> Dreamglider, is ther any output if you run simply # sudo apt-get?
[08:13] <yggdrasil_> so ...is therea good how to for dual monitor setup ?
[08:13] <ian_> I'm a retard
[08:13] <nagyv> sorry $ sudo apt-get
[08:13] <yggdrasil_> ian me 2
[08:13] <yggdrasil_> ian_ me 2
[08:13] <Dreamglider> nagyv, No
[08:13] <lowman62> hawking: you got it to work I take it?
[08:14] <phaer_> Hi
[08:14] <hawking> lowman62 : not yet :)
[08:14] <lowman62> rocketman327: yes I understand that...so am I LOL <--total control freak
[08:14] <nagyv> Dreamglider, Just to be closer to the fire, please log in first as root. And run it again.
[08:14] <phaer_> How can i tell xorg to start another wm?
[08:15] <lowman62> phone brb
[08:15] <slippn> anyone have a working wireless-tools with ndiswrapper in 2.6.15?  mine wont set any params for the ndiswrapper driver
[08:15] <Dreamglider> ok logging on as root
[08:15] <rocketman327> include/linux/i2c.h:58: error: array type has incomplete element type
[08:15] <rocketman327> wtf?!  in a standard linux kernel file, what gives?!
[08:15] <Dreamglider> hmm, how do i login as root :)
[08:16] <rocketman327> Dreamglider: you don't use   sudo -s
[08:16] <hawking> slippn : do you have 2.6.15 kernel? does it work without problems with ubuntu?
[08:16] <slippn> hawking: yawp
[08:16] <slippn> hawking: everything is fine cept tyring to bring up wlan on ndiswrapper with wireless-tools
[08:17] <slippn> hawking: amaziling :-P
[08:17] <hawking> slippn : ur not on a laptop right?
[08:17] <slippn> hawking; haha yah
[08:17] <nagyv> Dreamglider, If you want to log in as root, you have to set up a root passwd. For this use $ sudo passwd
[08:17] <hawking> slippn : and it worked without probs? what's ur laptop?
[08:17] <slippn> hawking: HP v2000
[08:17] <hawking> I heard people saying 2.6.15 is conflicting with hotplug or smth
[08:18] <slippn> hawking: didn't have any probs with the kernel loading, all modules for mice, sound, etc, all loaded and run fine
[08:18] <phaer_> i'd like to start fluxbox, but id don't know how to config xorg correctly. In which configfile can i find the right entries? it isn't xinitrc?
[08:18] <slippn> just wireless-tools (v27 and v28) can't seem to set any params for the ndiswrapper driver (its a bcm43xx)
[08:18] <slippn> i've tried the berlios driver and it wont even do a scan
[08:18] <hawking> phaer_ : google it.. asking here will take longer
[08:18] <hawking> phaer_ : there are thousands of manuals for it
[08:19] <kent> phaer_, install it and then you can choose fluxbox from the loginscreen.  (called gdm).
[08:19] <fluffyashes> i'm running breezy badger ubuntu and i tried to upgrade to firefox 1.5 using the tarball from mozilla since the repositories dont have 1.5 and firefox will no longer start
[08:19] <Dreamglider> i cant login as root
[08:19] <rocketman327> hmmmm.... looks like I might have installed the wrong kernel files... :-[
[08:19] <hawking> slippin : so I am compiling it right now ...
[08:19] <phaer_> kent: no gdm installed
[08:19] <rocketman327> well i'm off to class... ttyl
[08:19] <DShepherd> Can i take a screenshot with menus open?
[08:19] <fluffyashes> can anyone help me?
[08:19] <slippn> hawking: excellent.. I grabbed the newest linux-source from Dapper repos.
[08:19] <kent> phaer_, then is it not like .xinitrc in your home?
[08:19] <slippn> hawking: worked liek a charm
[08:20] <slippn> hawking: even got the vesafb-tng patch to load on this kernel, schweet
[08:20] <neels> Java Plugin in Firefox geht nicht ?? Kennt sich einer aus?
[08:20] <dfullert> Is there a fix for the adaptec 1200s SCSI problem?
[08:20] <hawking> slippn : I don't know how to get a kernel from dapper... I usually compile it myself taking it from kernel.org..
[08:20] <phaer_> kent: don't thinks so, because my current wm ( wmaker ) isn't there.
[08:20] <hawking> slippn : is dapper way easier?
[08:20] <fluffyashes> can anyone give me some firefox help?
[08:21] <neels> firefox help like what?
[08:21] <fluffyashes> i tried to upgrade to 1.5 using the tarball from mozilla and now firefox wont even start
[08:21] <slippn> hawking: nah the config the same, just set breezy in the us.** repos to dapper and try and grab it
[08:21] <fluffyashes> i even did apt-get remove firefox and then apt-get install firefox
[08:21] <Pygi> !ff1.5
[08:21] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:21] <slippn> hawking: that might confuse apt-get though... but thast what I did..
[08:21] <neels> does firefox 1.5 also solve the problem that i can't get the java plugin to run??
[08:22] <hawking> slippn : so is the compilation done automatically or do you do it?
[08:22] <slippn> damn this wireless card, and my neighbor just seemed to install a G network with no ecnryption.. bummer
[08:22] <nagyv> sorry, I have to leave. Bye!
[08:22] <slippn> hawking: not too familar with ubuntu-centrized kernel compile, i just do make menuconfig (im an old gentoo user)
[08:22] <neels> stop logging out guys, i want an answer on how to get the firefox java plugin to run
[08:22] <slippn> hawking: i dont even use the kpkg command to build it
[08:22] <slippn> hawking; :-D
[08:23] <neels> I did the linking and stuff but it won't work. any experience outthere?
[08:23] <hawking> slippn : anyway I'll use my own way :p
[08:23] <lowman62> ok am back... hawking: you get that workin?
[08:23] <hawking> lowman62 : not yet still downloading .. I've just reinstalled my system so I have lots of files to download it'll take some time
[08:24] <blue-frog> neels, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76754
[08:24] <neels> blue-frog: thanks! (reading....)
[08:24] <blue-frog> neels, and once it's done u need to close firefox (allfirefox windows)
[08:24] <lowman62> hawking: okay! just let me know ..I want to know if it was the same exact issue I had ;) if so I put a quick fix up for it
[08:24] <neels> obviously...
[08:24] <DShepherd> Can i take a screenshot of either the Main menu or a window with menus open?
[08:24] <hawking> slippn : I have 2.6.14 right now are there many new things in 2.6.15 ? I mean is it worth compiling
[08:24] <hawking> lowman62 : sure
[08:24] <thefamousnomo> hello people
[08:25] <fluffyashes> ubotu: following the instructions on that page i get an error at the step where you do: sudo touch /opt/firefox/extensions/talkback@mozilla.org/chrome.manifest
[08:25] <ubotu> fluffyashes: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[08:25] <slippn> hawking: nah not really, i'd wait, but I did not have any problems copiling the newest dapper kernel (2.6.15-11-??)
[08:26] <lowman62> hawking: it is a minor version update...I would only use major updates and well the automatic updater in ubuntu will let you know when a new stable kernel is available ;)
[08:26] <knewt> anyone got any idea which bit of gnome watches the media buttons on my laptop?
[08:26] <slippn> hawking: I like to break things :)D
[08:26] <yggdrasil_> can somone tell me if ubuntu will make me more popular with the ladies ?
[08:26] <hawking> slippn : hehe
[08:26] <lowman62> slippn: that is how you learn ;)
[08:26] <Dreamglider> fook this pc
[08:26] <slippn> slippn: this is true
[08:26] <drunkpikachu> Im hoping the ladies are gonna want to be all up in my kubuntu laptop
[08:26] <slippn> err
[08:27] <garry> Hahaha
[08:27] <drunkpikachu> If I can get it to install that is.....
[08:27] <hawking> slippn : do you know how to disable fn+fx hotkeys ?
[08:27] <garry> Have you downloaded the LFL Linux for Ladies iso yet?
[08:27] <dfullert> Anyone seen a fix for installing Ubuntu on a computer usung the adaptec 1200s SCSI controller??
[08:28] <lsuactiafner> anyone know of open-source software for sony erricson k750i?
[08:28] <lowman62> drunkpikachu: I installed ubuntu on my wifes computer and told her it was the new version of windows xp...she loves it..but hates linux LOL :P
[08:28] <dfullert> Is there anyway I can fix that?
[08:28] <Dreamglider> i'll just have to reinstall ubuntu
[08:28] <thefamousnomo> can anyone confirm that i have to install a load of codecs before installing libdvdread3?
[08:28] <Pyroti> lowman62, haha that's genius :D
[08:28] <drunkpikachu> does anyone know why my ubuntu installer hangs up right after loading (what I can only guess is-) the actual installer?
[08:28] <thefamousnomo> to acheive dvd playback compatibility?
[08:29] <lowman62> thefamousnomo: w32codecs <--you'll appreciate that
[08:29] <calamari> hi
[08:29] <slippn> hawking: if your in gnome, you can set the function hotkeys.
[08:29] <slippn> well im out guys time to take g/f to lunch and reboot under 2.6.14 for that new wireless netowkr :-P l8r
[08:30] <thefamousnomo> wasnt sure if libdvdread3 was enough. thanks again guys @ lowman62!
[08:30] <lowman62> thefamousnomo: yw :)
[08:30] <gundu> Hi
[08:30] <lowman62> Hi
[08:30] <calamari> my workspace switcher has become extra wide... not sure how it got this way.  how can I shrink it?
[08:30] <gundu> needing java sdk < v5.0 but my actually sources haven't got it
[08:30] <Dreamglider> what's the diffrence on a normal install and a server install ?
[08:31] <dfullert> fuck that
[08:31] <lowman62> Dreamglider: you want the default install...server is plain vanilla no x
[08:32] <ejofee> how do i enable the flash plugin in opera?
[08:32] <lowman62> calamari: how many desktops have you got it set to?
[08:32] <neels> (wow, lots of browser issues today :)
[08:33] <calamari> lowman62: 4, in a 2x2 configuration.  it's weird because it just went wide on this boot
[08:33] <lowman62> neels: I think that issue is pretty main stay actually LOL :P
[08:33] <hawking> slippn : if in kde?
[08:33] <drunkpikachu> anyone know why my installer might be locking up at a screen displaying things likes [493.846478]  io scheduler cfq registered?
[08:33] <hawking> anyone knows how to configure laptop hotkeys in kde?
[08:33] <lowman62> calamari: try removing it and adding it again...that is what I did..the same thing happened to me
[08:34] <foresight> lowman62, debian didnt even finish install before it bailed, and fedora just didnt want to install :p So I just posted on the forums and hope :)
[08:34] <namir> oi
[08:34] <namir> puzy
[08:34] <lowman62> foresight: bummer, how about mandriva?
[08:34] <foresight> lowman62, havent tried
[08:34] <Telemachus> where do i get a wmv codec for WMV files?
[08:34] <Pygi> !wmw
[08:34] <ubotu> Pygi: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:34] <calamari> lowman62: that fixed it.  thanks!  why didn't I think of doing that?  hehe
[08:34] <Pygi> !wma
[08:34] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:35] <lowman62> calamari: that is why folks are in here...to help ;) yw!
[08:35] <neels> H! I dont believe it. The damn plugin works now. Apparently, installing in ~/.firefox/plugins/ is not enough, it needs to be /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins
[08:36] <lowman62> foresight: I have a machine in the back that will not install any other distro but mandrake or as it is called now mandriva...maybe you have a machine just like it LOL
[08:36] <foresight> lowman62, heh..well could always try..ubuntu still wont go so...why not :D
[08:36] <lowman62> heck it pukes on windowz not that i blame it :P
[08:37] <neels> blue-frog: thx, u m8 my day
[08:37] <lowman62> foresight: check it out..is worth a go
[08:37] <Zandaa> hey guys, what kinda partitions can Linux read/write?
[08:38] <darkkyokusanagi> Goodnight :)
[08:38] <foresight> Whats the defenition of i586 compared to i386 ?
[08:38] <neels> Zandaa: a lot, but windows NTFS is still read-only
[08:38] <lowman62> i got to get out of this CLI and bitchx <--hate this thing...brb
[08:38] <neels> except the newest kernel can write, too
[08:38] <neels> but not guaranteed stable....
[08:38] <Zandaa> neels, so fat32 would work for a win/lin common drive?
[08:38] <neels> yes, fat32 works super
[08:38] <picasso> hey hey everybody! anybody know how to disable the login sound when gdm loads up on boot?
[08:38] <picasso> its flippin annoying on my laptop!
[08:38] <neels> running win2k (ARRGHH!!) with fat32
[08:39] <neels> just for university homework...
[08:39] <neels> need win, unfortunately
[08:39] <Zandaa> ok, thanks
[08:39] <lowman62> ok am back..few much better
[08:39] <omer> i have lexmark X1195 multifunctional printer
[08:40] <omer> but it dos't work in ubuntu
[08:40] <omer> can you help me
[08:40] <picasso> i don't see the sound setting anywhere in login screen admin tool
[08:40] <lowman62> omer: searching for you...one sec
[08:40] <Telemachus> i586 = first generation pentium
[08:42] <ejofee> how do i enable the flash plugin in opera?
[08:42] <Bishop4523> can anybody tell me how to move to irc.perl.org thru xchat???
[08:42] <Bishop4523> plz:)
[08:42] <dmoyne> hello ! ; I cnnot get my printer working with CUPS anybody to help ?
[08:43] <nicknocknickermi> hum
[08:43] <hawking> I have a laptop and on kde I get messages saying Display Changed : LCD On / Lcd Off sometimes... I don't know and can't understand the reason
[08:44] <hawking> anyone knows?
[08:44] <drunkpikachu> nope :\
[08:45] <_marius_> When it says nforce drivers on nvidia.com, do you think they mean nvidiageforce drivers?
[08:45] <picasso> marius: nforce is a motherboard/chipset i think.
[08:45] <neels> _marius_: probably NOT
[08:45] <_marius_> ok
[08:45] <omer> lowman62: ?
[08:45] <picasso> so does everyone have the damned login sound when they boot up to ubuntu?
[08:45] <_marius_> well, when it says graphic drivers and nothing more, you think that's a kind of universal driver?
[08:45] <picasso> or question sound
[08:45] <neels> drivers should say exactly what they are
[08:46] <neels> except....
[08:46] <lowman62> omer: try this Lexmark-X73-drv_z42.ppd.gz <--is supposed to work
[08:46] <neels> well, the nvidia glx works for my nvidia card anyhow, the ubuntu package one
[08:46] <neels> _marius_: worth a try anyway, i'd say
[08:47] <picasso> sheesh
[08:47] <picasso> this should be easy to do
[08:47] <_marius_>  okey, one last newbish question. How do people type in that red font?
[08:47] <neels> _marius_: did you try the nvidia glx package?
[08:47] <drunkpikachu> Anyone have any clues or leads to why my installer just hangs near the beggining at:   intput : AT Translated Set 2 Keyboard on isa0060/serio0
[08:47] <omer> ok
[08:47] <neels> _marius_: like installing other software, in synaptic?
[08:47] <lowman62> omer: i just used it with my x75 works
[08:47] <DShepherd> are there any docs on what is required for a pacakage to get in the repos?
[08:48] <neels> drunkpikachu: installer for what?
[08:48] <drunkpikachu> kubuntu
[08:48] <omer> lowman62: can you give me a web adres
[08:48] <neels> drunkpikachu: try reading some of the other F5, F6 etc pages
[08:49] <drunkpikachu> in all honesty I did, but I have no idea what I'm looking for
[08:49] <drunkpikachu> I'm a complete noob
[08:49] <neels> drunkpikachu: for my ex girlfriend's laptop, i had to supply one of those
[08:49] <neels> welll.......
[08:49] <hawking> lowman62 : that didn't work :/
[08:49] <neels> :P
[08:49] <drunkpikachu> lol, but what do you mean by supply one of those
[08:49] <neels> just keep trying, maybe
[08:50] <neels> :P
[08:50] <neels> like
[08:50] <neels> um what was it?
[08:50] <drunkpikachu> keyboard?
[08:50] <neels> hehe
[08:50] <drunkpikachu> but this thing is a laptop
[08:50] <drunkpikachu> or so I've been told :P
[08:51] <tahorg> drunkpikachu: try 'linux noapic' to boot
[08:51] <Pyroti> But what if, what you've been told, is a lie?
[08:51] <drunkpikachu> will do
[08:51] <neels> drunkpikachu: let me try and remember
[08:51] <hawking> lowman62 : any other ideas ?
[08:51] <drunkpikachu> bastards at compaq better not have lied to me
[08:51] <DShepherd> Any devs on?
[08:51] <ejofee> gnomefreak: thank you
[08:51] <lowman62> hawking: oh no! really...did you try changing to the xine engine then applying then selecting alsa then once again applying?
[08:52] <_marius_> Is it possibule to download Sound Blaster live 24-bit for linux?
[08:52] <hawking> lowman62 : yeah everything
[08:52] <neels> drunkpikachu: ahh, here it is: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85787
[08:52] <ejofee> how do i enable the flash plugin in opera?
[08:52] <omer> lowman62: i couldn't find this driver
[08:52] <drunkpikachu> speetness, the linux noapic worked. Ill go read that forum post now
[08:52] <lowman62> because at first it was flakey for me...when you try playing does it just zip through a playlist? without playing anything
[08:52] <omer> can you give me an url
[08:52] <fusionfox> where could i get themes for gnome?
[08:53] <Ng> fusionfox: art.gnome.org or www.gnome-look.org
[08:53] <Pyroti> google must have the answer to that one..
[08:53] <lowman62> hold on omer..i will get you the thread i found
[08:53] <omer> ok
[08:54] <lowman62> omer: read through this carefully http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=389182
[08:54] <neels> thanks for a nice ten minutes of my life :D
[08:54] <neels> love your lungs. the key to stopping smoking.
[08:55] <lowman62> hawking: I found amarok so flakey to begin with ...I finally got fed up because I have an ipod and was not able to use it..so I used crossover and installed iTunes and that works excellent
[08:55] <neels> it really worked. i just didn't want to anymore. after 8 years of trying to force myself.
[08:55] <hawking> lowman62 : I see
[08:56] <lowman62> hawking: can I message you?
[08:56] <neels> right.
[08:56] <yggdrasil_> what socket is an amd athlon xp ?
[08:56] <omer> lowman62: i couldn't find  .gz file
[08:56] <LostFrog> yggdrasil_: Socket A
[08:57] <LostFrog> Yggdrasil brings back memories.
[08:57] <narles> i just bought an audio advantage micro.. i'm trying to figure out how i can install the disc that came with the usb.. exe files... any suggestions?
[08:57] <hawking> lowman62 : sure
[08:57] <lowman62> omer: try this ... sudo apt-get install <filename>
[08:57] <Celestar_> hi peops
[08:58] <drunkpikachu> Hey, I have 17GB unpartitioned space for unbuntu, what would be the best amount of space to use for primary and swap partitions (and is the automatic selection of 732mb for swap and 16.c for primary good enough)?
[08:58] <yggdrasil_> lost frong nah the socket type
[08:58] <yggdrasil_> lostfrog even nah the socket type
[08:58] <Celestar_> I'm considering to switch to ubuntu on my laptop, because WLAN handling in SuSE is creeping me out. How are multiple WLAN configurations in ubuntu handled?
[08:58] <drunkpikachu> lol 16.c..........
[08:58] <yggdrasil_> now weveryones gonna wanna steal my nick
[09:00] <LostFrog> yggdrasil: Socket A
[09:00] <LostFrog> Also known as Socket 462
[09:00] <Celestar_> these were times, when sockets had < 500 holes ...
[09:01] <LostFrog> ok.. I tried two different CD drives, two different CDs, neither boot.
[09:01] <Celestar_> ok let me rephrase.
[09:02] <Miyomei> Okay, I have a question, and I swear this isn't trolling.
[09:02] <Celestar_> I'm commuting regularly between Site A and Site B with different WLAN configurations. Is there any way to have the system automatically choose the correct configuration?
[09:02] <Miyomei> How can I install Windows XP from Ubuntu?
[09:02] <Celestar_> Miyomei you mean in VMware or something?
[09:03] <Miyomei> No, for like a dual boot system.
[09:03] <Celestar_> do you have unpartitioned space?
[09:03] <Miyomei> Nope.
[09:04] <jenda> Easy to make... use gparted
[09:04] <Celestar_> then you have to shrink existing partition(s)
[09:04] <Miyomei> Can I just use around 5 GB of space for XP? I only want to use it to access files that are on old hard drives and maybe play some games.
[09:05] <Celestar_> Miyomei that's how I do it too, but XP is hardly happy with 5GB :S
[09:05] <Celestar_> espeically with games eating up to 5GB per installation these days ..
[09:06] <DShepherd> Miyomei: What kind of games?
[09:06] <drunkpikachu> any new games take at least 2 GB
[09:06] <gorski> i have problems with playback of recorded sound, help, please!
[09:06] <Miyomei> DSheperd: A few MMORPGs, but mostly old games like Fallout 2 and System Shock 2. And some import Japanese PC games.
[09:07] <drunkpikachu> anyone know is a swap partition of ~700mb is overkill, or not enough, for a 16GB primary partition?
[09:07] <Goshawk> how to convert ps files to pdf ones with evince? it says "Generating PDF is not supported" while the internet site says that it's designed for Pdfs and Ps
[09:08] <Celestar_> I don't have a swap partition at all here
[09:08] <eth42> hi! maf files (mozilla archive format) are special zip files and gnome regards them as zip files. can I associate this file type with Mozilla instead of the Archive Manager?
[09:08] <_jason> drunkpikachu, how much ram do you have
[09:09] <Miyomei> So, can I shrink my Linux drive's partition and install XP alongside it on another partition?
[09:09] <Celestar_> 0.75GB of swap, that sounds like only sensible if you have little ram installed
[09:10] <drunkpikachu> What if I have over a gig of ram?
[09:10] <MasterTsunami> Miyomei, it would be easier to install XP first and then linux, but yes you can do it that way too.
[09:10] <_jason> drunkpikachu, then you don't even need a swap partition
[09:10] <drunkpikachu> Good to know, thanks
[09:10] <Miyomei> MasterTsunami, I'm running Ubuntu already. ;p
[09:10] <MasterTsunami> :P
[09:11] <DShepherd> Miyomei: How much hard drive space does ubuntu have?
[09:11] <_marius_> Uhm, where can I get binutils installed?
[09:11] <luk156> hi!
[09:11] <Celestar_> www.gnu.org
[09:11] <Celestar_> there
[09:11] <Miyomei> About 37 GB, 29 of which is unused.
[09:11] <decaf> _marius_: just use synaptic
[09:12] <_marius_> ok, thanks
[09:12] <oxyper10> hi everybody
[09:12] <scott_karana> anyone mind giving me a hand setting up this USB ethernet thing I've got?
[09:13] <luk156> i' ve a problem about hibernate
[09:13] <_jason> _marius_, if you are building programs you should jsut install build-essential, it will pull in everything you need
[09:14] <Miyomei> GParted wont let me resize my Linux partition for some reason.
[09:14] <_marius_> Uhm okey, thanks for the answers last time btw :) But now I got a new problem :P It says: You appear to be running an X server; Please exit X before installing. What is X server and how do I exit it?
[09:14] <olicat> does anyone have a good way of sharing my music between my linux box and my mac?
[09:15] <olicat> i've tried accessing via samba, but that doesn't work
[09:15] <drunkpikachu> yay, kubuntu is installing! OH JOY!
[09:15] <Celestar_> doesn't work?
[09:15] <MenZa> olicat: .mac :o?
[09:16] <olicat> MenZa, i dont have that
[09:16] <Miyomei> Oh wait, do you have to Unmount a partition before you can resize it?
[09:16] <scott_karana> Miyomei: what fs are you trying to resize?
[09:16] <scott_karana> And yes.
[09:16] <Miyomei> ext3, and how would I go about unmounting my Linux partition?
[09:17] <scott_karana> Miyomei: it depends. Is it an important one, like your root partition?
[09:17] <Miyomei> Yes.
[09:17] <scott_karana> Miyomei, I'd recommend you use a LiveCD and reboot, and resize it from there. Otherwise you'll have no luck resizing or unmounting, to my knowledge.
[09:18] <_marius_> How do I shut of the Xserver on ubuntu?
[09:18] <Miyomei> Now I have to download and burn a LiveCD, since I only go the install. Will I lose my Ubuntu settings?
[09:18] <napsy> Hi. Just want to ask if someone knows why my digital camera wasn't recognised by gtkam in dapper but in breezy worked perfectly?
[09:18] <scott_karana> _marius_: CTRL-ALT-F1, and from there run "sudo /etc/init.d/xorg-common stop" or similar.
[09:19] <napsy> I mean if there is a special bug regarding libgphoto2
[09:19] <scott_karana> Miyomei: Nah, livecds don't touch your harddrive.
[09:19] <scott_karana> Miyomei: well, they touch the swap partition.
[09:19] <Miyomei> Do I even need that if I have 1GB of RAM?
[09:19] <scott_karana> There's a flag to turn off that option,I dunno what it is
[09:20] <ploom> hello
[09:20] <scott_karana> hey, ploom
[09:20] <Miyomei> Okay. Also, is a 40GB drive with 30 for Ubuntu and 10 for XP fine?
[09:20] <ploom> sorry to bother you, but I dont know where to look, when esd gives "Sound device inadequate for Esound. Fatal."
[09:20] <olicat> does nobody share their music between two boxes?
[09:21] <scott_karana> Miyomei: in my experience, a 20GB with 3 or 4 for XP is fine. You'll be more than fine.
[09:21] <Miyomei> Okay.
[09:21] <scott_karana> olicat: I use SCP or SFTP to do my transfering. Are you on the same network?
[09:21] <Miyomei> And, olicat just reminded me; is there a way to share files over a network from a Linux box to a Windows box?
[09:21] <scott_karana> ploom: sorry, I've got no experience for esd at all. Does sound work elsewhere?
[09:22] <scott_karana> Miyomei: you run SSH, right? Install WinSCP on the Win32 and copy away.
[09:22] <ploom> scott_karana: elsewhere its fine
[09:22] <scott_karana> ploom: I'm stumped, then. Sorry.
[09:22] <Miyomei> Alright. It seems I have a lot to do, then.
[09:22] <olicat> scott_karana, i was hoping for a way to keep them all in one place
[09:22] <Miyomei> Thanks for the fast help as always. I love this support channel. ;p
[09:22] <ploom> scott_karana: just the gnome-sounds are missing that way
[09:23] <scott_karana> Miyomei: heh, that's what I'm here to look for too.
[09:23] <olicat> Miyomei, use your linux box as an smb server
[09:23] <scott_karana> olicat: does smb not work for you?
[09:23] <apricot_> i cannot play ogg files
[09:24] <olicat> scott_karana, when i try to access the smb share via the file chooser, the music player tells me it can't add that location because it's not local
[09:24] <gorski> help, please
[09:24] <scott_karana> olicat: is it just music you want shared?
[09:24] <olicat> aye
[09:24] <gorski> i have problems with playback of recorded sound, help, please!
[09:24] <scott_karana> I've heard good things about MusicPD, a daemon that streams audio over the network
[09:24] <scott_karana> it's known as MPD too
[09:24] <apricot_> i cannot play .ogg files, help please!
[09:24] <olicat> oh cool
[09:24] <omer> when i installing ubuntu i have not been asked to define root password, how can i define it after installed the ubuntu*
[09:25] <omer> ?
[09:25] <calamari> lol, some people have such a short attention span
[09:25] <_jason> ubotu, tell omer about root
[09:25] <scott_karana> omer: I just did this myself. Here.
[09:25] <decaf> apricot_: install beep-media-player, easiest way
[09:25] <melonipoika> hi, i would need help setting the PATH, i'm new to linux and ubuntu. I found that you use "setenv", but i get err "command not found" when trying to use it
[09:25] <scott_karana> omer: "sudo bash" and then "passwd" will do ya.
[09:25] <decaf> omer: you dont need a root pass. just use sudo
[09:26] <bshumate> !tell omer about root
[09:26] <mcphail> melonipoika: you don't need setenv. Why are you changing your $PATH?
[09:26] <_jason> omer, root is disabled for a reason in ubuntu, please read the reasons on the link provided to you before deciding to enabling it.  You can use sudo instead of using root.
[09:26] <scott_karana> melonipoika: try export instead. Also, keep in mind that you should put PATH stuff into a ~/.bashrc to keep it for other sessions.
[09:26] <forger> hola
[09:26] <forger> me presento
[09:26] <forger> soy forger
[09:26] <bshumate> !es
[09:26] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:27] <thais> alguem do BRASIL
[09:27] <_jason> !pt
[09:27] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[09:27] <Seveas> !br
[09:27] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[09:27] <scott_karana> Anyways, anybody know how to get my USB ethernet dongle working? It was detected fine on the 5.10 LiveCD, but not by the installed system.
[09:27] <scott_karana> melonipoika: I'm gonna try to find you a tutorial. $PATH is a weird concept for most first users.
[09:28] <tahorg> thais: estou
[09:28] <fusionfox> su gata no mama (o_o)
[09:28] <melonipoika> scott_karana: ok, thanks
[09:29] <mcphail> melonipoika: why do you want to change your $PATH?
[09:29] <melonipoika> mcphail: because i need it, if i wouldn't neer it, i wouldn ask :D i need it for netowrk simulator
[09:29] <omer> what can i fill here?  instead of root         http://localhost:631
[09:30] <gabspeck> hey someone help me
[09:30] <scott_karana> USB Ethernet works on 5.10 LiveCD, not on installed system. Help me, please!
[09:31] <gabspeck> i try to install vmware tools on my ubuntu but tar says the vmware tools package is corrupt
[09:31] <mcphail> melonipoika: PATH=$PATH:/extra/bit/to/add
[09:31] <mcphail> melonipoika: then EXPORT it
[09:31] <theconartist> i want ff 1.5 in thr repo :/
[09:31] <Seveas> theconartist, then use dapper
[09:31] <melonipoika> thanks, mcphail  and scott_karana, i hope i will manage :D
[09:31] <Seveas> it will NEVER be in breezy
[09:32] <theconartist> Seveas, no, i mean the official one
[09:32] <scott_karana> gabspeck: did you use the right flags? Otherwise, it's probably right.
[09:32] <gabspeck> i try to install vmware tools on my ubuntu but tar says the vmware tools package is corrupt (i'm an impatient n00b ^^)
[09:32] <gabspeck> ooh
[09:32] <gabspeck> how come?
[09:32] <Ilokaasu-> My internet connection worked 3 days, then i booted normally today and my connection didnt work anymore, i can give ifconfig listnings etc on pm if someone wants to help...
[09:32] <gabspeck> oh the letters after the tar command?
[09:32] <scott_karana> gabspeck: I think TARs store CRCs of files in them, and they're easy to check.
[09:32] <sorcerer> csao
[09:32] <sorcerer> Van itt magyar?
[09:33] <scott_karana> !Hu
[09:33] <gabspeck> yeah it says something about crc
[09:33] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, scott_karana
[09:33] <gabspeck> something like stdin crc error
[09:33] <gabspeck> and also that it has 'obsolete base 64 headers' :s
[09:33] <scott_karana> gabspeck: that almost definately means it is a bad file you have.
[09:33] <gabspeck> hmph
[09:34] <gabspeck> vmware doesn't have a link to vmware tools on their website so :\
[09:34] <_marius_> Can someone repeat how I shut of Xserver? I seem to have missed the answere :P
[09:34] <napsy> does anyone know if libgphoto2 is broken in dapper?
[09:34] <scott_karana> _marius_: I answered ;)
[09:35] <scott_karana> _marius_: try "sudo /etc/init.d/xorg-common stop"
[09:35] <_marius_> ok, thanks
[09:35] <scott_karana> preferably not from a terminal in X, but whatever ;)
[09:35] <scott_karana> USB Ethernet works on 5.10 LiveCD, not on installed system. Help me, please!
[09:36] <scott_karana> !hu
[09:36] <ubotu> scott_karana: I don't know
[09:36] <yggdrasil_> whats a good gui type ftp client for ubunt ?
[09:37] <Set> gftp
[09:37] <theconartist> i hate gftp
[09:37] <yggdrasil_> ill try it
[09:37] <theconartist> terribly unstable
[09:37] <Set> theconartist, feel free to make any other suggestion :)
[09:37] <scott_karana> yggdrasil_: I believe there's also a kftp or something like it.
[09:37] <xukun> can anybody of you point me a good website or a book for learing subnetting
[09:37] <theconartist> scott_karana, it is called KBear
[09:38] <scott_karana> theconartist: well why didn't YOU recommend it? :P
[09:38] <theconartist> scott_karana, it is even worse
[09:38] <xukun> I,m studing for my cisco ccna
[09:38] <theconartist> :)
[09:38] <scott_karana> theconartist: oh, ok
[09:38] <scott_karana> xukun: http://www.ralphb.net/IPSubnet/
[09:39] <scott_karana> USB Ethernet works on 5.10 LiveCD, not on installed system. Help me, please!
[09:39] <Seveas> scott_karana: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[09:39] <drunkpikachu> Can I get anyones opinion on how hard it is to script for linux?
[09:39] <xukun> scott_karana, thanks scott_karana I will try that
[09:39] <bshumate> xukun: check out also: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/701/3.html
[09:40] <mcphail> drunkpikachu: depends what you want to do
[09:40] <Seveas> drunkpikachu, easy
[09:40] <scott_karana> Seveas: thanks, OK.
[09:40] <xukun> bshumate, thanks
[09:40] <Seveas> drunkpikachu, read the bash scripting guide on tldp.org or dive into python in /usr/share/doc/diveintopython
[09:40] <drunkpikachu> Seveas: Kthx!
[09:41] <scott_karana> Seveas: whoa, ubuntu has dive into python installed by default? Classy!
[09:41] <drunkpikachu> Aint Ubuntu grand?
[09:41] <scott_karana> 'Tis indeed.
[09:42] <scott_karana> _marius_: how'd it work?
[09:42] <_marius_> the sudo /etc/init.d/Xorag-com,mon stop command didn't work :(
[09:42] <_marius_> ops some miss writting at the end there :P
[09:42] <pal_> Yo i have problems with the internet connection on Winxp, iam running vmware from ubuntu. is there something i need to do. tools i need?
[09:42] <scott_karana> Hmm. Try typing it all the way to that X, and then hitting tab.
[09:43] <_marius_> sure, Btw is there anyway to leave the mode you get into when pressingCTRL+ALT+F1 except rebooting?
[09:43] <scott_karana> CTRL-ALT-F7 I believe it is.
[09:43] <_marius_> ok, thanks :)
[09:43] <bshumate> F9
[09:43] <drunkpikachu> #!@$%@#$%@#$%@#$%, I just screwed the resolution options for X-serv, when and where can I access this again?
[09:44] <mcphail> pal_: run the virtual machine wuth NAT enabled
[09:44] <scott_karana> drunkpikachu: as a last resort I know there's xorgcfg and xorgconfig...
[09:45] <cat> hi
[09:45] <drunkpikachu> hi
[09:45] <pal_> mcphail what and where is NAT?
[09:46] <CanadianSnow> how do i get info on my sound card
[09:46] <CanadianSnow> caz i cant get any sound going :(
[09:46] <prammy> pal_: NAT = Network Address Translation
[09:46] <prammy> CanadianSnow: look and see what card you have in lspci
[09:46] <prammy> i.e run lspci in a terminal and see what sound card you have
[09:46] <mcphail> pal_: change the setting of "Ethernet 1" to NAT in the VMWare Workstation startup page for the virtual machine
[09:47] <CanadianSnow> ya i dont think it sais
[09:47] <pal_> you mean in the vmware-workstation?
[09:47] <robotgeek> is it just me, or the "Add Application" has been removed from the menu?
[09:47] <mcphail> pal_: yes, as i said
[09:48] <theD3viL> Where i must put icons to have it in icewm?
[09:48] <_marius_> Uhm, that didn't work either. I found the exutable file: Xorg-common, but the stop command didn't work for it
[09:48] <mcphail> robotgeek: system -> admin _. Add apps
[09:49] <CanadianSnow> hello?
[09:49] <robotgeek> mcphail, weird. i don't have that entry
[09:49] <scott_karana> CanadianSnow: I don't think anyone has any ideas... :/
[09:49] <robotgeek> mcphail, i only have an entry for synaptic
[09:49] <CanadianSnow> what would it be under?
[09:50] <Hoxzer> how can I get my system tray icons back?
[09:50] <mcphail> robotgeek: i'm running breezy amd64. Maybe your version is different?
[09:50] <CanadianSnow> it only lists 9 things
[09:50] <robotgeek> mcphail, breezy ppc
[09:50] <CanadianSnow> 3 bridges and 3 controlers
[09:50] <mcphail> robotgeek: the add-applications thing was rubbish anyway
[09:50] <fcastelo> Hi. Is there any tip to install Breezy in a Toshiba Tecra laptop?
[09:51] <CanadianSnow> 4 and 4*
[09:51] <CanadianSnow> and an interface
[09:51] <CanadianSnow> someone help me plz
[09:51] <robotgeek> mcphail, heh
[09:53] <fcastelo> Hi. Is there any tip to install Breezy in a Toshiba Tecra laptop? Someone can help me?
[09:53] <gabspeck> what program can i use for gkrellm to show the mail count?
[09:54] <l-bigboss> I have installed ATi fglrx modules and xdrivers for hardware acceleration. But now can't run Totem. Any body else with radeon and same problem?
[09:54] <CanadianSnow> no the people here suck and dont help anyone
[09:54] <theD3viL> Where i must put icons to have it in icewm?
[09:54] <CanadianSnow> !bot
[09:54] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[09:55] <pal_> Is it possible to move files from ubuntu (host) to windowsxp (guest)? like movies etc?
[09:55] <CanadianSnow> depends
[09:55] <fcastelo> hang on
[09:55] <pal_> CanadianSnow explain more
[09:56] <drunkpikachu> My ubuntu installed normally and I've come to a hang during startup. I've found the solution on the forum, but I don't know how to actually access and edit the file xorg.conf. Can anyone help me out?
[09:56] <CanadianSnow> I'll get it set up for me eventually, I want to be able to run stuff on this machine FROM my windows
[09:56] <CanadianSnow> k, do you have windows and linux on the same system?
[09:56] <drunkpikachu> yes
[09:56] <mcphail> pal_: yes. You need to set up WinXP to share a folder
[09:56] <scott_karana> drunkpikachu: if you've got a console, try "sudo __editor___ /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[09:57] <pal_> mcphail please explain, how i can share a folder on winxp
[09:57] <drunkpikachu> what can I put in for _editor_? vi? Or do I have the wrong idea?
[09:57] <CanadianSnow> pal
[09:57] <CanadianSnow> do u have both running on 1 system?
[09:58] <CanadianSnow> and in winxp you right click a folder and click "sharing..."
[09:58] <calamari> drunkpikachu: yeah.. vi, nano, gedit (etc)
[09:58] <john_> Hi, does anyone know how I can install 		Java Runtime Environment Version 5.0 Update 6
[09:58] <CanadianSnow> then click the check-box for "share this folder" or something
[09:58] <scott_karana> drunkpikachu: yeah, vi or emacs or nano or something
[09:58] <mcphail> pal_: XP makes my head hurt. You'd be better off finding a windows channel. It's a process I don't know off by heart.
[09:58] <scott_karana> EDIT: Sniped :$
[09:58] <matthew_w> Hey, are the Ubuntu servers for Synaptic down?  All I'm getting is 404's from synaptic, even after apt-get update
[09:58] <pal_> ok thanks anyway mcphail
[09:59] <scott_karana> john_: http://ubuntuguide.org/ has what you want, I think
[09:59] <mcphail> pal_: IIRC, it isn't too difficult
[09:59] <john_> ok thanks scott
[09:59] <CanadianSnow> Pal_ u like, ignoring me or something? like everyone else :@
[09:59] <scott_karana> CanadianSnow: Nobody has any idea.
[09:59] <pal_> CanadianSnow not at all, just you didnt write my nick there
[10:00] <CanadianSnow> oh... sorry, but its not that hard to read thru this, its not that busy right now
[10:00] <CanadianSnow> pal_ that was 2 u :p
[10:00] <pal_> so i didnt see what you have been writing, anyway if its just to share a folder in Xp then its nop. but iam running everything in one computer
[10:00] <matthew_w> Yeah... so, is synaptic down, or am I just losing my marbles?
[10:00] <yaaar> word
[10:00] <scott_karana> matthew_w: I'd answer, but my ubuntu net is down :(
[10:00] <scott_karana> yaaar: sup
[10:01] <yaaar> is there a quick way to get a list of all the packages you've installed on an ubuntu machine since initial installatino?
[10:01] <yaaar> s/installatino/installation/g
[10:01] <RickKnight> Anyone here able to help with wpa_supplicant problems?
[10:01] <matthew_w> scott_karana; that's what I'm getting "Failed to fetch ca.archive.ubuntu.com... etc. etc."
[10:01] <drunkpikachu> I tried "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and I get "unrecognized command."
[10:01] <pal_> CanadianSnow, so if i run windows(guest) and ubuntu(host) on same machine where in ubuntu can i find the windowsxp sharing folder?
[10:01] <wojt> why isn't my terminal "responding" to anything?
[10:02] <john_> anyone know of a wifi scanner? I need to be able to scan for local wifi access points to get the SSID name, the ubuntu wifi configurator GUI doesnt find all the wifi networks in the area and I have to specifiy a SSID rather than select one.
[10:02] <wojt> It became that way when I "fixed" charset to swedish
[10:02] <scott_karana> matthew_w: no no, I mean I can't get my NIC to work ;)
[10:02] <yaaar> john_: kismet
[10:02] <scott_karana> drunkpikachu: try nano
[10:02] <john_> yaaar, that in synaptics?
[10:02] <CanadianSnow> pal_ it should be on your harddrive
[10:02] <CanadianSnow> pal_ you might have to mount it
[10:02] <yaaar> john_: presumably...the ony wifi box i own has gentoo on it
[10:03] <matthew_w> scott; oh, I'm just failing to resolve any of the ca.archive.ubuntu.com things.
[10:03] <pal_> ok CanadianSnow ill try this, over and out ;)
[10:03] <yggdrasil_> wow the molecule screensaver is awsome i just saw methamphetamine
[10:03] <drunkpikachu> karana: I did, but then I relaized I was probably in the wrong command line... NOW I'm in the right place
[10:03] <matthew_w> But when I actually web navigate there, it's ok.
[10:03] <yaaar> yggdrasil_: wait till LSD comes around....that's when the real fun start
[10:03] <matthew_w> What the hell is wrong with my synaptic? lol
[10:03] <yaaar> s
[10:03] <john_> yaaar, does it have a gui or is it text driven?
[10:04] <yaaar> john_: gkismet
[10:04] <CanadianSnow> pal_ i meant from linux... you shouldn't have to leave the chat
[10:04] <yaaar> is the gtk gui
[10:04] <john_> synaptics only has kismet
[10:04] <pal_> ok CanadianSnow
[10:04] <xukun> ,
[10:04] <yaaar> john_: you might install it and just try to run gkismet....i don't recall whether they were seperate packages or not
[10:04] <john_> yaaar, synaptics is installing it now, perhaps the gui will ne tjere too
[10:04] <yaaar> yeh
[10:05] <john_> cool :-)
[10:05] <pal_> CanadianSnow i found a folder vmware/windows xp/ is it this one?
[10:05] <yaaar> john_: there's also a cli interface, though i can't remember what the command was....maybe just kismet, or kismet-ui or some such
[10:05] <yggdrasil_> yaar did you hear the story about the guy that like discovered acid today ?
[10:06] <scott_karana> can any irssi gurus here tell me how to turn off all the whois with joins and parts? ;O
[10:06] <CanadianSnow> it just starts at vmware?
[10:06] <yaaar> john_: the cli obviously isn't as pretty, but if you just need to see what's out there it's workable enough
[10:06] <john_> yaaar, its installed but I cant find a shortcut to it
[10:06] <CanadianSnow> pal_ it starts at vmware?
[10:06] <mcphail> pal_: no..no..no...
[10:06] <john_> yaaar, so how would I run it from terminal?
[10:07] <pal_> mcphail then what?
[10:07] <calamari> scott_karana: I don't know personally.. but I just checked #irssi and there are over 200 people there.. maybe one of them knows?  worth a try maybe
[10:07] <CanadianSnow> pal_ if you go to places -> computer
[10:07] <mcphail> pal_: set up a shared folder inside a _running_ XP virtual machine
[10:07] <CanadianSnow> pal_ whats under there?
[10:07] <drunkpikachu> If I want to add resolutions in xorg.conf, I have to add them to all "depths"? What is meant by depth anyway?
[10:07] <mcphail> pal_: and then go to Places -> Connect to server in Ubuntu
[10:08] <scott_karana> drunkpikachu: ?!? Depth is just for color depth, isn't it?
[10:08] <john_> yaaar, do you know how I can run kismet?
[10:08] <mcphail> pal_: select a samba server and type in the virtual machine's ip address
[10:08] <scott_karana> drunkpikachu: "Modes" is for resolution
[10:08] <drunkpikachu> karana: that was my guess, but 1 and 15 are not numbers I'd associate with that kind of option
[10:08] <yaaar> john_: not sure....try typing 'kism<tab>' at the terminal and see if it completes it
[10:09] <CanadianSnow> mcphail cool, thanks for the info, but why couldn't u have told him all this when he first asked?
[10:09] <yaaar> john_: or 'gkism<tab>' in case it installed that
[10:09] <scott_karana> drunkpikachu: xorg fills the config with monochrome and junk depths like that in addition to normal ones like 16bit
[10:09] <yaaar> john_: if both those fail, you could do 'updatedb && locate kismet' to see where the stuff is and go from there
[10:09] <john_> yaaar, i get this with kismet: Starting server...
[10:09] <john_> Suid priv-dropping disabled.  This may not be secure.
[10:09] <john_> FATAL:  Unable to set up pidfile /var/run//kismet_server.pid, couldn't open for writing: Permission deniedWaiting for server to start before starting UI...
[10:09] <drunkpikachu> karana: ah, makes sense
[10:09] <mcphail> CanadianSnow: I like to engage my brain before typing.
[10:09] <john_> whoops sorry for th epaste guys
[10:09] <zelevw> john_  go to /etc/kismet and go though kismet.conf
[10:10] <scott_karana> john_: do kismet as root, too. With sudo.
[10:10] <yaaar> john_: oh, right. kismet uses a client/server model; it runs the server to get the information and then outputs it to the client to view. the server needs to be started as root. so try 'sudo kismet' and see what happens
[10:11] <Nelo> Hello, get my IP via DHCP, I do a ifconfig and route and seems to be working... however, i cannot access any web sites. If i try to do a ping a get a weird error message "sendmsg: operation nor permitted"  is there a howto i could read about this or some1 help me out...?
[10:11] <ubuntu> a
[10:11] <scott_karana> guys, where are kernel modules saved on Ubuntu?
[10:11] <ploom> damnit - its just funny how redoing every configuration change sometimes helps
[10:11] <yaaar> john_: actually, scratch that....try 'sudo /etc/init.d/kismet start'
[10:11] <ploom> got my esd
[10:11] <RAC> if i change the video card, how can i autodetect it again?
[10:11] <john_> ok
[10:11] <ploom> ...
[10:11] <ubuntu> =0
[10:11] <scott_karana> ploom: so esd is all good now? :D
[10:11] <beep> Does anyone know about ethernet connection from Linux to Win? Open private window...
[10:11] <ploom> yes :-)
[10:11] <yaaar> RAC: why autodetect? you know what kind of video card it is, right?
[10:11] <pal_> mcphail: where do i get the virtual machine ip?
[10:12] <calamari> scott_karana: I have them at  /usr/src/modules
[10:12] <pluffsy> hello
[10:12] <yaaar> scott_karana: kernel source, or the kernel boot image?
[10:12] <scott_karana> calamari: oh, thanks. I was looking in /lib like my SPARC on debian had.
[10:12] <pluffsy> I seem to have a java cli. and I don't think I installed anything extra. what java jvm is that really?
[10:12] <drunkpikachu> Um, in nano, any changes I make are saved upon exit? Also, how exactly do I interpret ^X? Do I just type it anywhere and hit enter?
[10:12] <ploom> just too bad I have no mic to test if my scard really does full-duplex...
[10:12] <john_> yaaar, it didn't work with that command but i tried sudo kismet and it seemed to run but didnt show anything of any use
[10:12] <calamari> scott_karana: there too
[10:12] <scott_karana> Ugh. No /usr/src/modules. I just have "rpm" in /usr/src.
[10:12] <ploom> its ess  maestro2 /es1968)
[10:13] <yaaar> beep: exactly what do you mean by an ethernet connection from Linux to Win? Like, just getting them up on the same internet connection? or like, file-sharing between them? or what?
[10:13] <calamari> scott_karana: yeah try /lib/modules also
[10:13] <mcphail> pal_: inside windows, click start -> run -> cmd -> ipconfig
[10:13] <scott_karana> yaaar: kernel source would be nice too. I'm stuck on a networkless ubuntu box.
[10:13] <ploom> any ideas - could it be not full-duplex?
[10:13] <pluffsy> it seems to an alias to something gnu:ish. is that gnu classpath + some gnu jvm I don't know of.
[10:13] <pluffsy> to BE an
[10:13] <john_> yaaar, "Kismet will not function if no packet sources are defined in kismet.conf "
[10:14] <yaaar> scott_karana: well, if the sources are installed they are probably in /usr/src/linux ...as for the boot images, they are in /boot ...but I'm not sure any of that is likely to help much with your networklessness.....what happens when you try to run 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking start' ?
[10:14] <CanadianSnow> pal_ in mine it has browse this network or something, if your shared folders are being shared it should find it
[10:14] <scott_karana> calamari: any way I can see exactly what these modules DO? I'm stuck without usb ethernet, and it seems to be a module that didn't load.
[10:14] <yaaar> scott_karana: does the interface show up as configured in the output of 'ifconfig' ?
[10:14] <scott_karana> yaaar: I just get an [ ok ] 
[10:14] <scott_karana> no ifconfig either
[10:14] <scott_karana> nor lsusb
[10:14] <CanadianSnow> who knows stuff about audio
[10:14] <yaaar> ?
[10:14] <drunkpikachu> omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg omg kubuntu finally hit to desktop! weeeeeeeee!
[10:15] <scott_karana> I occasionally get weird "usb: 1-1 bus could not assign -110" errors, or something like that
[10:15] <yaaar> john_: ok then....looks like you've got a bit of work ahead of you....you're going to have to plow through kismet.conf and configure it for your card/environment
[10:15] <yaaar> scott_karana: you mean those utilities *don't exist* ?!
[10:15] <calamari> scott_karana: that's a good question.. I'm curious, what do you get for: lsmod | grep usb
[10:15] <scott_karana> yaaar: this is my family's old box, and the usb nic thing was always retarded in Windows. It worked fine in the 5.10 livecd, but didn't on an installed 5.10
[10:16] <ploom> ok, have a nice evening - i'll try some nice setpci stuff now for my appollo pro 133 mb
[10:16] <scott_karana> yaaar: they're installed, they just don't return anything useful
[10:16] <scott_karana> calamari: I checked that already: I have "usbcode"
[10:16] <simon_> could someone please tell me what it's called when you tell dpkg that you are moving an existing install package  (xorg) out the way and installing the equivalent built from source?
[10:16] <yaaar> scott_karana: so ifconfig doesn't show you your interface? or it shows it like it should be working ok?
[10:16] <scott_karana> yaaar: it just has "lo"
[10:16] <warreng> anybody here used crossover office by codewavers? $39.95 and apparently let's you easily install microsoft office?
[10:16] <yaaar> scott_karana: do you get reasonable entries in /var/log/messages when you plug it in
[10:16] <yaaar> ?
[10:16] <pal_> mcphail: CanadianSnow: i found under connect to in ubuntu windows share
[10:17] <john_> yaaar, i've given up lol
[10:17] <yaaar> scott_karana: do you know what the ethernet interface should be named? eth0, etc?
[10:17] <gimmulf> why is Wine 20050725 latest version in synaptic?
[10:17] <scott_karana> yaaar: I would assume it'd be called eth0.
[10:17] <yaaar> john_: yeah, i seem to recall that it was a bit of a pain to get kismet setup and working....it's pretty cool once you do though...
[10:17] <scott_karana> yaaar: I will privmsg you about what I get when tail -fing that log
[10:17] <yaaar> scott_karana: well, sometimes they surprise you....but was that what it was called in the livecd? also, you don't happen to recall what module it was loading, do you?
[10:18] <yaaar> k
[10:18] <calamari> gimmulf: I dunno.. but if you want newer ones they are available from a different repository
[10:18] <tim_> how would I make a process continue running after user logoff?
[10:18] <yaaar> calamari: you're tasty
[10:18] <calamari> yaaar: lol, thanks
[10:19] <arrinmurr> gimmulf: because packages in ubuntu aren't usually updated. only security fixes are applied. you can get the latest version from http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb though
[10:19] <ericz> is it possible to have transparent windows in gnome?
[10:19] <pal_> CanadianSnow i mean what info should be typed in thoose field, i tried with the ip of the virt. machine but its not connecting
[10:19] <MikeStyle> Yes it is eric, but i dont know how :)
[10:19] !lilo:*! Hi all. New channel: ##fastcgi , an unofficial support channel which will cover configuration and application development with fastcgi for your webserver and language of choice.... if you'd like to help out, please stop by!
[10:20] <ericz> :-/
[10:20] <calamari> gimmulf: you can add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list:  deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[10:20] <lowman62> love this message from linus torvalds http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html
[10:20] <MikeStyle> i could teach you how to do it in kde if you like
[10:20] <calamari> gimmulf: one thing I've notied about it tho is the wine reposity times out halfway through downloads, so you may have to retry a few times to complete them
[10:20] <pal_> CanadianSnow what port?
[10:20] <MikeStyle> :)
[10:21] <ericz> linus needs to stick to the kernel
[10:21] <lowman62> <--like Gnome
[10:21] <MikeStyle> KDE <3 Gnome
[10:21] <lowman62> so according to linus I am an idiot LOL
[10:21] <MikeStyle> KDE > Gnome
[10:21] <ericz> i like gnome
[10:21] <MikeStyle> but Tiger OSX > all
[10:21] <ericz> heh, people use what they like
[10:22] <lowman62> i run KDE on my mandrake boxes
[10:22] <yggdrasil_> i dont like gnome very much either
[10:22] <Seveas> MikeStyle, -ETOPIC
[10:22] <yggdrasil_> you still run mandrake
[10:22] <drunkpikachu> How do you people pronounce kubuntu? Kay-Oo-boon-two, Ku-boon-two, or other?
[10:22] <yggdrasil_> haha
[10:22] <spacey_ki> just matter of taste. lets drop the discussion
[10:22] <Seveas> this is not the channel for desktop wars
[10:22] <MikeStyle> i switched my windows box (current) style's to a mac-like thing
[10:22] <Seveas> drunkpikachu, kooboontoo
[10:22] <lowman62> well mandriva..but is off topic sorry
[10:22] <yggdrasil_> anyone here get el7 running ?
[10:22] <drunkpikachu> Ok
[10:22] <yggdrasil_> i was reading ahow to how to add the location to synaptic but it didnt owkr
[10:22] <skel> I'm having some serious issues with the vsftpd package that comes with ubuntu
[10:23] <MikeStyle> Seveas, its not a war, its a heated discussion and no one is asking for help
[10:23] <MikeStyle> so i figure why not
[10:23] <spacey_ki> skel, whats the problem?
[10:23] <skel> I've got local_enable=YES but I can't login with any local users
[10:23] <sampan> seveas  is that the "official" pronounciation?
[10:23] <Seveas> MikeStyle, because it's offtopic
[10:23] <Seveas> sampan, yes
[10:23] <skel> spacey_ki: or any users for that matter
[10:23] <sampan> seveas  thanks :) always wondered about that myself
[10:23] <sampan> what about xubuntu?
[10:23] <MikeStyle> Seveas is there an off topic channel?
[10:23] <spacey_ki> hmm
[10:23] <Seveas> MikeStyle, yes, see the topic "IRC Info"
[10:23] <spacey_ki> skel, what does /var/log/vsftpd.log say
[10:23] <ericz> /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:23] <ericz> ?
[10:23] <Seveas> sampan, Ksooboontoo
[10:24] <spacey_ki> nog Zubuntu?
[10:24] <spacey_ki> not
[10:24] <sampan> thanks again -- my day is complete now!
[10:24] <sampan> ;)
[10:24] <skel> spacey_ki: I've restarted it my config is http://rafb.net/paste/results/47cxth85.html
[10:24] <spacey_ki> skel, look in the vsftp log file for error
[10:24] <skel> spacey_ki: Wed Jan 11 14:22:18 2006 [pid 27989]  [pubuser]  FAIL LOGIN: Client "127.0.0.1"
[10:25] <skel> spacey_ki: thats all thats in there
[10:25] <BradM> my penis is abnormally small
[10:25] <sampan> tmi
[10:25] <spacey_ki> pubuser is on your system?
[10:25] <MikeStyle> BradM, not the place for that
[10:25] <skel> spacey_ki: well that and Wed Jan 11 14:22:12 2006 [pid 27990]  CONNECT: Client "127.0.0.1" right above it
[10:25] <BradM> :(
[10:25] <Seveas> sigh
[10:25] <skel> spacey_ki: yes, and Ive reset the passwd like 5 times to be sure
[10:25] <skel> spacey_ki: I can get shell just fine
[10:25] <Seveas> ugh, eek-0 again
[10:25] <Seveas> the troll keeps returning
[10:26] <spacey_ki> skel, hmm any other options you changed?
[10:26] <skel> spacey_ki: what I've got in pastebin is my exact config, pretty basic one
[10:26] <Astinus> Attempting to compile some stuff on my PPC, fails with "missing stdlib.h"
[10:26] <Nor[annanstans] > hey
[10:26] <Astinus> Which package contains all those useful header files?
[10:27] <steri> anyone have idea why my fluxbox doesn't steri .xinitrc .xsession or ./fluxbox/startup file?
[10:27] <Noriega> has anyone else had problems getting their microphone to work?=?
[10:27] <Exdaix> hey guys, whats the repository server info for backports
[10:27] <spacey_ki> skel, did you install vsftp with the package?
[10:27] <spacey_ki> maybe you miss the pam part
[10:27] <Sanne> Astinus: you can check for packages containing files on packages.ubuntu.com
[10:27] <skel> spacey_ki: yeah in the basic repository for breezy with apt-get
[10:27] <scott_karana> Astinus: there's some sort of base_packjage for development, but I'm sorry I can't think of the name
[10:27] <yaaar> is there any way to get a listing of all the packages you've apt-got since installing the system?
[10:27] <tuxxman> does ubuntu come with a default firewall?
[10:28] <skel> yaaar: dpkg -l
[10:28] <spacey_ki> my config states: pam_service_name=vsftpd
[10:28] <scott_karana> bah, beaten by skel
[10:28] <yaaar> skel: sweet thanks
[10:28] <cello_rasp> argh guys i am getting this message from spm again: "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)"
[10:28] <skel> spacey_ki: I'll try that
[10:28] <skel> spacey_ki: ty :)
[10:28] <finalworld> hi. how can I allow my user to browse my other disks?
[10:28] <spacey_ki> skel, ofcourse it also has to be in /etc/pam.d
[10:29] <Astinus> thanks, I'll try packages.ubuntu and look for that base pkg
[10:29] <scott_karana> finalworld: I think chmod will do it unless it's a windows FS
[10:29] <lowman62> Noriega: try using alsamixer
[10:29] <finalworld> scott_karana, it is :/
[10:29] <Exdaix> hey guys, whats the repository server info for backports?
[10:29] <l-bigboss> I have installed ATi fglrx modules and xdrivers for hardware acceleration. But now can't run Totem. Any body else with radeon and same problem?
[10:29] <scott_karana> finalworld: ooh, darn. There's a weird mask you need in fstab, then. I don't remember much. it's "mask" or sometihng.
[10:29] <theconartist> j2re is making firefox crash :/
[10:29] <Noriega> lowman62, yes I've tried in all different ways
[10:30] <scott_karana> finalworld: I'll look for a HOWTO or something.
[10:30] <cello_rasp> finalworld are they on the same machine, if they are then you might try /dev/hda or /dev/hda1 etc
[10:30] <Sanne> Astinus: search for stdlib.h in "Search the contents of packages"
[10:30] <theconartist> anyone else have this problem?
[10:30] <steri> anyone have idea why my fluxbox doesn't run .xinitrc .xsession or ./fluxbox/startup file?
[10:30] <Astinus> Sanne: doesn't come up with anything useful
[10:30] <Noriega> the thing is that I can hear the microphone in my headphones, but none of the recording programs seem to grab the sound
[10:30] <finalworld> cello_rasp, yes they are. but I dont have the right permissons
[10:30] <finalworld> scott_karana, tnx
[10:30] <Astinus> Sanne: I need a list of packages to grab which will give me gcc, glibc, binutils and all that associated paraphernalia
[10:30] <skel> spacey_ki: ok I'll mess with that. I do have a vsftpd in /etc/pam.d so I'll give it a whirl. thanks :)
[10:30] <theconartist> nobody else has this problem?
[10:30] <lowman62> Noriega: it worked for me sorry
[10:30] <Sanne> Astinus: there's a package called build-essentials or so
[10:31] <gimmulf> W: Failed to fetch http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/wine_0.9.5-winehq-1_i386.deb Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection  :(
[10:31] <beep> Does anyone know about ethernet connection from Linux to Win? Open private window...
[10:31] <tuxxman> hello?
[10:31] <Noriega> lowman62, you can use your microphone?
[10:31] <AngryAngryHippos> hey is anyone else unable to apt-get right now?
[10:31] <spacey_ki> skel, gl
[10:31] <Sanne> Astinus: build-essential
[10:31] <Noriega> can I PM you for details, if you have time..
[10:31] <cello_rasp> why is my wireless link listed as having 54Mbps link speed (802.11g) on iwconfig, yet it maxes out at 11Mbps?
[10:31] <calamari> theconartist: I installed the jdk here, but it works fine for me
[10:31] <spacey_ki> skel, at least pam is nessecary for authentication
[10:31] <Astinus> Sanne: looks useful
[10:31] <theconartist> :/
[10:31] <Astinus> Sanne: thanks
[10:31] <lowman62> Noriega: yes
[10:31] <arrinmurr> gimmulf: just try again, and again, and again. and if it still doesn't work, try again later.
[10:31] <spacey_ki> since the vsftp package in ubuntu is build with pam support. skel
[10:31] <john_> Can anyone help me, I get this message when I run synaptics package manager...:E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:31] <calamari> theconartist: what version are you using?
[10:31] <revmoo> hey, two questions, how do i find what my current runlevel is, and what is the proper way of editing init scripts in ubuntu?
[10:31] <gimmulf> oki arrinmurr
[10:31] <AngryAngryHippos> Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found [IP: 206.75.218.52 80] 
[10:32] <tuxxman> does ubuntu breezy come with a standard firewall???
[10:32] <calamari> theconartist: this is what I get from java -version:  Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0-b64)
[10:32] <Seveas> !firewall
[10:32] <ubotu> rumour has it, firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter. see !firestarter
[10:33] <Seveas> !no firewall is <reply> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter. see !firestarter
[10:33] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[10:33] <gimmulf> !firestarter
[10:33] <ubotu> well, firestarter is Ubuntu has, like every other Linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is Firestarter, which can be installed via Breezy's "Add Applications" or Synaptic
[10:33] <Seveas> ugh
[10:33] <Seveas> who fucked up those entries :S
[10:33] <fusionfox> is it secure to install .rpm files in ubuntu?
[10:34] <jenda> fusionfox: usually
[10:34] <Seveas> !firewall =~ s/. see !firestarter/, which can be installed via synaptic./
[10:34] <ubotu> Seveas: OK
[10:34] <AngryAngryHippos> Failed to fetch http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/d/dhcp/dhcp_2.0pl5-19.1_i386.deb  404 Not Found [IP: 206.75.218.53 80] 
[10:34] <AngryAngryHippos> can anyone help me out?
[10:34] <sethk> fusionfox, secure? depends on what you mean by secure, I guess.
[10:34] <Seveas> !no firestarter is <reply> see firewall
[10:34] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[10:34] <skel> spacey_ki: something is certainly out of whack. when I start it with /etc/init.d/vsftp start   it's running from a differen't pid than specified in the /var/run/vsftpd/vsftpd.pid =/
[10:34] <probe45> fusionfox: better use alien to confure rpm to .deb
[10:34] <fusionfox> sethk, well not to get any further problems
[10:34] <john_> yaaar, if youre still here...I found a package in synaptics called wifi radar and it is amazing! GUI and you can click on a wifi ap and it will connect! wowee!
[10:34] <skel> spacey_ki: and I cleared out the stale one first after stopping it
[10:34] <sethk> fusionfox, that's impossible to answer, it depends on the quality of the rpm
[10:34] <jenda> Seveas: you put a loop there, dintcha?  !firewall =~ s/. see !firestarter/ and firestarter is <reply> see firewall
[10:35] <RAC> sorry got d/ced... how do i reconfigure video card
[10:35] <Seveas> !firewall
[10:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[10:35] <Lead> anyone know how to lock screen from the cmd line
[10:35] <fusionfox> probe45, i heard alien was a little buggy
[10:35] <Seveas> jenda =~ is a trick :)
[10:35] <yaaar> john_: really....sounds quite promising. may give it a go when that gentoo laptop i mentioned gets out of the shop.
[10:35] <jenda> Seveas: ahh
[10:35] <forger> como me meto a ubuntu en espaol
[10:35] <yaaar> stupid broken power connectors
[10:35] <Seveas> !es
[10:35] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:35] <e_machinist> I haven't installed the fglrx or ati driver yet... but GLXINFO says that direct rendering is enabled... is that normal?
[10:35] <teleyinex> why now aptitude says all the time that the packages arent signed?
[10:35] <Seveas> e_machinist, yes
[10:35] <yaaar> wow....ubotu's multilingual
[10:35] <Seveas> the ati driver is installed by default
[10:35] <probe45> fusionfox: It never let me down yet
[10:35] <jenda> yaaar: ubotu says whatever you tell it to :)
[10:36] <yaaar> yeah, i suppose so
[10:36] <spacey_ki> skel, maybe purge the package
[10:36] <spacey_ki> and try again
[10:36] <spacey_ki> and only change localenable to yes
[10:36] <lowman62> oh the beauty of bots
[10:36] <steri> anyone have idea why my fluxbox doesn't run .xinitrc .xsession or ./fluxbox/startup file? someone
[10:36] <spacey_ki> for a start
[10:36] <john_> yaaar, tis rather good :-)
[10:36] <fusionfox> probe45, ill try it =) thx
[10:36] <e_machinist> Seveas, Installing the fglrx driver would still be a good idea though correct?
[10:36] <Seveas> e_machinist, for now: yes
[10:36] <Seveas> but the ati driver is catching up fast
[10:37] <e_machinist> Seveas, that is what I have heard. Hopefully the ATI becomes the driver of choice soon.
[10:37] <calamari> Seveas: you've been helping out here a long time.  I'm curious what you'd think about a help management syetm, where people would ask questions to a bot and helpers could interact with it, to see who has been waiting for help the longest, all the replies, etc.  Would be much more like the forums, but in an irc setting.
[10:38] <Seveas> calamari, I (and lots of people with me) would hate it
[10:38] <e_machinist> Seveas, when you say the ati driver is installed by default, do you mean the same as if I downloaded it from the ati website? As in that driver is already installed?
[10:38] <Seveas> e_machinist, no, the open source one
[10:38] <lowman62> calamari: what would we all do?
[10:38] <Seveas> fglrx is what you download from ati.com
[10:38] <calamari> Seveas: I sugggest it only because of the amount of traffic.. seems like the more complicated requests for help get passed over
[10:38] <lowman62> live? eww eww
[10:39] <spacey_ki> calamari, you can make support tickets in launchpad
[10:39] <e_machinist> Seveas, oh, I didn't know that... so the open source ati driver is installed in ubuntu by default?
[10:39] <Noriega> lowman62, what program do you use for sound recording?
[10:40] <Seveas> calamari, no we love the complicated ones, they'
[10:40] <Seveas> re interesting
[10:40] <Seveas> e_machinist, correct
[10:40] <lowman62> Noriega: I don't use sound recording...the comp I am using with ubuntu has a built in mic...I generally mute it and never use it
[10:40] <Miyomei> Alright, is there an easy way to burn the LiveCD? ;p
[10:41] <Noriega> oh, built in.. it's a laptop?
[10:41] <e_machinist> Seveas, I didn't know that. I thought there was just software acceleration for OpenGL in the default install? Or is that because the open source driver only accelerates 2?
[10:41] <picasso> anybody know how to disable the ubuntu sound when gdm starts up? it's really loud on my laptop and can't turn the speakers off that quick
[10:41] <nico8481> hi
[10:41] <e_machinist> I thought there was no hardware acceleration by default...
[10:41] <lowman62> no...big nasty desktop ;) laptop is over there..that is my wifes new windows nt box which really is running ubuntu :D
[10:42] <Seveas> e_machinist, I don't know the details about the ati driver, I use fglrx ;)
[10:42] <e_machinist> Seveas, heh.
[10:43] <Otaku> i'm trying to install a new ati driver at the moment :)
[10:43] <lowman62> picasso: add a volume control to your desktop
[10:43] <picasso> lowman62: i have that. but i'm talking about right when the system is booting up and gdm is run the first time
[10:43] <picasso> it makes that ubuntu drum sound
[10:43] <e_machinist> Otaku, of the open source driver?
[10:43] <picasso> before i login
[10:43] <DoS> Hello
[10:44] <lowman62> picasso: no volume control on the side of your laptop?
[10:44] <Otaku> no
[10:44] <Otaku> ati driver
[10:44] <Otaku> from ati.com
[10:44] <picasso> lowman62: it's buttons on the front. controls via software
[10:44] <lowman62> by the way ..I love the drums :D
[10:44] <e_machinist> Ah, I see.
[10:44] <mirandac> hi
[10:44] <picasso> they're fine, but VERY LOUD, and I don't always want everyone within 20 yards to know i'm logging in to my computer
[10:44] <Otaku> Well i'm trying to, lol
[10:44] <Otaku> since 3 hours, haha
[10:44] <mirandac> who is this
[10:44] <fusionfox> lol picasso
[10:44] <MDS> can i use nforce sound chip and a sound card at the same time?
[10:45] <mirandac> 
[10:45] <mirandac> 
[10:45] <mirandac> k
[10:45] <mirandac> k
[10:45] <mirandac> k
[10:45] <lowman62> picasso: hmm! dunno about that one...try muffling the speakers? LOL
[10:45] <mirandac> k
[10:45] <mirandac> k
[10:45] <mirandac> k
[10:45] <picasso> heh
[10:45] <mirandac> k
[10:45] <Seveas> ugh
[10:45] <picasso> /ignore
[10:45] <Seveas> ugh@lgisp.net
[10:45] <scott_karana> anyone well versed in usbnet problems? my usb dongle hotprobes on the livecd, but not on 5.10 on my harddrive.
[10:45] <Seveas> they house a lot of trolls
[10:45] <picasso> heh, whats that, alternative to /kick ?
[10:46] <Lead> anyone know how to lock the screen from the cmd line
[10:46] <Seveas> Lead, xscreensaver-command --lock
[10:46] <Miyomei> How do I burn the LiveCD from within Ubuntu?
[10:47] <Lead> perfect, tnx Seveas
[10:47] <Seveas> Miyomei, gnomebaker, graveman, k3b...
[10:47] <e_machinist> I think I'm gonna install the drivers from the ATI website that the wiki talks about.
[10:47] <j3di> ok retard queestion here.. how do i statically assign the ip address..
[10:47] <Sandrina> performance question: i have installed ubuntu 5.10 on my duron 1000 (morgan) + 256MB and the performance is really slow. I am running the standard desktop (Gnome) and have installed all upgrades till now...
[10:47] <Seveas> j3di, put it in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:48] <Seveas> man 5 interfaces
[10:48] <Sandrina> question is: anything i can do to speed ubuntu up?
[10:48] <Seveas> that describes the synax
[10:48] <Seveas> Sandrina, buy better hardware ;)
[10:48] <_marius_> How do I do this?: Set the CC enviroment variable to the name of the compiler used to compile you kernel and restart installation. (The error message shows when I'm trying to install my graphic card)
[10:48] <j3di> ytight
[10:48] <lowman62> lol
[10:48] <Sandrina> i also have an amd64 box
[10:48] <Seveas> _marius_, export CC=gcc-3.4
[10:48] <Seveas> _marius_, which graphic card?
[10:49] <calamari> picasso: you can turn off the drum sound.. go to System > Administration > Login Screen Setup > Accessibility
[10:49] <j3di> man 5 interfaces
[10:49] <e_machinist> Sandrina, 512mb or ram... compile the kernel for your machine?
[10:49] <j3di> ?
[10:49] <picasso> accessibility
[10:49] <philc> I have an ati tv wonder card going, it works great. However, the signal kind of looks like crap and it's very red. Is there some way I can adjust it?
[10:49] <_marius_> A nvidia geforce 6600GT or something like that
[10:49] <Miyomei> Hrm, gnomebaker doesn't detect my CD burner...
[10:49] <e_machinist> Comlicated... but does improve performance and is anti bloat.
[10:49] <Seveas> !tell _marius_ about nvidia
[10:49] <picasso> thanks. i am teh retard
[10:49] <e_machinist> Complicated*
[10:49] <Seveas> no need to compile
[10:49] <lowman62> j3di: type that at a command line
[10:49] <Sandrina> how difficult is it for a newbie to compile the kernel (who has done some C programming earlier...)
[10:49] <calamari> picasso: yw, glad I could help
[10:49] <picasso> i thought i looked through all the settings :)
[10:50] <e_machinist> Sandrina, it isn't to difficult, assuming you find a good tutorial if you have never done it before.
[10:50] <Miyomei> Do I have to mount my CD burner before I can use it in gnomebaker?
[10:50] <lowman62> picasso: there ya go you can beat them mean ol drums after all ;)
[10:51] <picasso> hehe
[10:51] <Sanne> Sandrina, you might also want to try a different desktop. I'm using xfce with a 1ooo mhz Athlon Thunderbird and recognize considerable speed improvement. You won't have all the Gnome's config tools at your fingertips, though.
[10:51] <Okita> cafuego: Was I talking with you yesterday about getting Airport Extreme working under Ubuntu?
[10:51] <Okita> I got it, by the way
[10:51] <Sandrina> ok sanne, will consider
[10:52] <teleyinex> how can I fix a GPG error in apt-get?
[10:52] <Sandrina> just a clarification. assuming i'm a newbie with brains, is compiling the kernel something that can be done in an afternoon? (baby is 1 yr old... needs attention)
[10:53] <calamari> Sandrina: definitely
[10:53] <Insidious> hey, would y'all recommend ubuntu for a file server? (no gui, using LDM, samba)
[10:53] <Okita> Sandrina: Yes, assuming your computer isn't ancient
[10:53] <Sandrina> (okita: it's a duron 1000 MHz)
[10:53] <Insidious> *LVM
[10:53] <Seveas> teleyinex, errors at the pastebin please
[10:53] <Okita> Insidious: You could probably use something "simpler" if you liked, but I'm sure it would do
[10:53] <Okita> Sandrina: That's more than enough
[10:54] <Seveas> Insidious, yes, I'm using it as such and it is great
[10:54] <Okita> Sandrina: I'm masochistic enough to run gentoo on a Duron 700 =)
[10:54] <topyli> Sandrina: that box is a real killer. the RAM is what counts
[10:54] <matiu> How can I get my open source project into the next ubuntu release ?
[10:54] <teleyinex> Seveas, I have only asked the solution
[10:54] <Sanne> Sandrina, for kernel compilation there's this, for example: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto?highlight=%28kernel%29
[10:54] <_marius_> Uhm, I think my firefox client is bugged somehow. when i search on something it just says: Stopped on the loading line, how can I fiks this?
[10:54] <Sandrina> (all: yeah - the box does have potential... the knoppix derivatives run really really nice)
[10:54] <Seveas> teleyinex, the solution depends on which error it is, so we need to see the error
[10:55] <teleyinex> and where I have to paste it?
[10:55] <Seveas> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:55] <teleyinex> its very short instead
[10:55] <Seveas> teleyinex, the complete output of the command you tried
[10:55] <Seveas> NOT just what you think is the error
[10:55] <Miyomei> I'm getting a punch of errors in terminal from gnomebaker when it tries to detect my CD-ROM drive.
[10:56] <calamari> Sandrina: with 2.6 kernels you can do "make gconfig" rather than "make menuconfig".. it's quite convenient, because you automatically see the help for items as you select them
[10:56] <teleyinex> I have posted it
[10:56] <Seveas> teleyinex, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*Release*
[10:56] <Seveas> teleyinex, and then apt-get update
[10:56] <luisito> hello guys
[10:57] <e_machinist> Its amazing how large the ati-driver-installer is...
[10:57] <Steve^> Hey. I have a PC dual booted with XP and SuSE 10. I want to shrink the SuSE partition by 15 gigs to make room for a Ubuntu installation.  I'm using a Live version of gnoppix right now and trying to resize my linux partition, but can I even resize an extended partition?
[10:57] <Seveas> e_machinist, the actual things you use are just a few MB
[10:57] <Seveas> e_machinist, you can use the debs from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl, they are the latest fglrx driver
[10:57] <e_machinist> Seveas, I know, the installer is huge though.
[10:57] <e_machinist> Heh.
[10:57] <Sandrina> (now /me is reading a tutorial... on compiling the kernel... hmmm... got it... will take it from here) thanks all
[10:57] <Seveas> so you don't have to hassle with that installer and compiling crud
[10:58] <e_machinist> Seveas, that will be helpful.
[10:58] <teleyinex> Seveas, thanks now works
[10:58] <teleyinex> Why happen this things?
[10:58] <Seveas> e_machinist, then you should use them, they come with handy metapackages too (I created those), so your X doesn't go FUBAR on upgrades ;)
[10:58] <saif> i am new to linux, and i managed to install ubuntu and install different servers and setup eclipse which took me a lot of work! i luv my ubuntu! BUT i have dual booting with windowsXP (which my wife uses) and of course it crashed (unrecoverable, reinstall from boot needed)!
[10:59] <Seveas> teleyinex, solar flares, the shadow of the moon and probably an eartquake at the south pole
[10:59] <saif> i need to install windows on the existing partition without messing up my linux!
[10:59] <Sanne> Sandrina, good luck :)
[10:59] <teleyinex> he
[10:59] <teleyinex> I mean, its a bug? or a corruption?
[10:59] <Steve^> I'm using qtparted btw, the swap part of the extended has a resize option, but not the reiserfs part. And resizing the extended bit didn't seem to work.   Any ideas?  Or alternative solutions?
[10:59] <nate__> hey, i just switched to openbox, does anybody know how to add stuff to the menue?
[10:59] <saif> i know this is not an ubuntu issue, but hints?? is it possible to reinstall windows while ubuntu is intact?
[10:59] <teleyinex> well
[10:59] <teleyinex> thanks
[10:59] <teleyinex> cya!
[11:00] <yggdrasil_> saif i wouldnt worry too much about it
[11:00] <yggdrasil_> just have to worry about your grub
[11:00] <Miyomei> saif: Do you have any unpartitioned space?
[11:00] <saif> ok,
[11:00] <pfarmer> nate__:  what version of openbox?
[11:00] <luisito> Hello Seveas. Since yesterday here the guys told me automatix is not good I decide to install all again and here I am, plain. Is there any automatic installation package like automatix in wich I could trust?
[11:00] <saif> Miyomei, nop :(
[11:00] <Seveas> luisito, no, such programs suck
[11:01] <nate__> pfarmer: one sec...
[11:01] <Miyomei> You'll have to shrink one of your partitions. If you want to shrink the Linux root partition you'll have to use gparted from a LiveCD.
[11:01] <drunkpikachu> To get the wireless card on my laptop to work using ndiswrapper, I need the .inf file? Or, is there anything else I can use since the only drivers I can find are .exe?
[11:01] <yggdrasil_> saif is your ubuntu still booting ?
[11:01] <nate__> drunkpikachu, you need the .sys
[11:01] <Seveas> luisito, you probably need only 5% of its functionality and can search the wiki for info on how to do that manually. It's not hard at all
[11:01] <saif> of course it is!!
[11:01] <drunkpikachu> nate: woo, even easier!
[11:01] <yggdrasil_> whats wrong with the windows ?
[11:01] <saif> Miyomei,
[11:01] <luisito> Seveas, ok. I listen to guys like guy, 'cause you are masters and have teach me everything I know by far. :)
[11:02] <Seveas> :)
[11:02] <saif> Miyomei, this is safe right?!?! i am worried about resizing my / partition
[11:02] <Seveas> luisito, we do our best
[11:02] <yggdrasil_> saif whats wrong with windows ?
[11:02] <saif> yggdrasil, it's not running, i get a blue screen on startup and it restarts
[11:02] <yggdrasil_> saif have you tried to just do a chckdisk on the windows partition
[11:02] <Miyomei> saif, I'm told it's safe. I'm in the process of doing the same thing as you right now, I just can't get my CD burning to run. ;p
[11:02] <yggdrasil_> not sure if you can fsck ntfs ?
[11:02] <Miyomei> Seveas, would you mind taking a look at the error GnomeBaker is giving me?
[11:03] <luisito> Seveas, ok. I listen to guys like you (correction), 'cause you are masters and have teach me everything I know by far. :)
[11:03] <saif> Miyomei,  :)
[11:03] <Seveas> Miyomei, paste it on the pastebin
[11:03] <Miyomei> Done.
[11:03] <saif> yggdrasil, nop!
[11:03] <nate__> OK, i have openbox3.2-7ubuntu1
[11:03] <luisito> ok. Here I goooo...
[11:03] <yggdrasil_> saif
[11:03] <saif> yggdrasil, yes?
[11:03] <thechitowncubs> I made a mistake and didn't install Ubuntu on my server computer with the boot command of server, is there any way of removing all packages that don't apply to that install?
[11:03] <yggdrasil_> heres what i would do
[11:03] <nate__> i need to add stuff to the menu
[11:03] <nate__> what file would i go to?
[11:03] <luisito> Seveas, thank you.
[11:03] <nate__> edit, etc
[11:04] <Psi-Jack> does anyone here have an emu10k1 sound card, or notibly, the SB PCI 512, and could help me with what does what regarding sound controls? :)
[11:04] <Seveas> thechitowncubs, use debfoster to prune ubuntu-desktop
[11:04] <yggdrasil_> figure out how to install grub without reinstalling ubuntu im sure its not that hard. then reinstall windows and then install grub
[11:04] <saif> yggdrasil, please note that windows does not start at all!! does F8 work with grub?
[11:04] <yggdrasil_> saif you cant fsck the windows partition
[11:04] <thechitowncubs> Seveas, what is the basic process?
[11:04] <pfarmer> nate__:  Can't remember if openbox autogen's menu's for you initially
[11:04] <blue-frog> thechitowncubs, you can just install whatever server apps u need and then disable gdm...
[11:04] <Seveas> thechitowncubs, sudo apt-get install debfoster; sudo debfoster
[11:04] <theCore> luisito, you make me remenber a old Zen poem To follow the path: look to the master, follow the master, walk with the master, see through the master, become the master.
[11:04] <pfarmer> nate__:  have a look in ~/.config/openbox/
[11:05] <saif> yggdrasil, ok, thanx for the advice!
[11:05] <yggdrasil_> saif i bet you could make a boot floppy witth your grub stuff on it also
[11:05] <Seveas> answer 's' to any questions, except for ubuntu-desktop answer 'p' there
[11:05] <yggdrasil_> get taht and make sure it work
[11:05] <thechitowncubs> Seveas, alright, i'll see how it works
[11:05] <JDigital> Hi all. How do I check if this "ubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso" I have has correctly downloaded? Is there a CRC I can check or something?
[11:05] <nate__> pfarmer,  thanks, but where's ~/?
[11:05] <saif> i'll go look around for the grub trick! thanx! yggdrasil , Miyomei
[11:05] <drunkpikachu> Unrelated to Ubuntu but cool: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10805240/
[11:05] <hawking> Itry to remove a package but Ican't it always gives errors... is there a way to remove a package like an -f force option or smth like that?
[11:05] <nate__> also, when i try to open nautilus when using openbox, it messes everything up.  Is there another file navigator i should be using?
[11:05] <Miyomei> JDigital: The MD5 checksum file is on the download page.
[11:06] <luisito> theCore, that's a great poem.
[11:06] <pfarmer> nate__:  ~/ is your home directory.......
[11:06] <nate__> oh
[11:06] <Seveas> drunkpikachu, we have #ubuntu-offtopic for that...
[11:06] <drunkpikachu> :(
[11:07] <nate__> ok, found a rc.xml there, thanks pfarmer
[11:07] <Miyomei> Seveas, here's the error page: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6975
[11:07] <Sanne> nate__, you can start nautilus without it starting the gnome desktop along with it (but I don't know the exact command)
[11:07] <pfarmer> nate__:  if there isn't a menu.xml file in there then cp one from /etc/xdg/openbox/menu.xml into ~/.config/openbox and have a play
[11:07] <nate__> ok
[11:07] <JDigital> Miyomei: I cannot find it
[11:07] <JDigital> oh, I can
[11:07] <Seveas> Miyomei, does /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info exist?
[11:07] <JDigital> thanks
[11:07] <nate__> does anybody know the command to start nautilus without starting the GNOME desktop??  I think i might just go back to metacity WM :(
[11:08] <john_> what irc clients does everyone use?
[11:08] <Sanne> nate__, type 'nautilus --help' and see if you find the command to start without the desktop
[11:08] <Seveas> nate__, nautilus --no-desktop
[11:08] <khermans_> #gallery
[11:08] <Sanne> ah :)
[11:08] <nate__> Seveas, thanks much :D
[11:08] <khermans_> Is there any way to allow people to download an entir album in a zip file?
[11:08] <Miyomei> JDigital: http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/5.10/
[11:08] <JDigital> Miyomei++
[11:08] <JDigital> thx
[11:08] <Psi-Jack> Anyone at all? :)
[11:08] <Miyomei> No problem.
[11:08] <Miyomei> Seveas, I'll check.
[11:09] <cat> hi,my cpu is amd bartom 2500+ ,if i install both kernel-k7 and nvidia-glx ,X will stop work ,
[11:09] <paladinew> just wondering, is there any particular reason why someone would install the new kde on ubuntu?  does it have better features or something ?
[11:09] <linlin> !java
[11:09] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:09] <cat> anyone ever met the same problem ?
[11:10] <Seveas> paladinew, the 1337-factor
[11:10] <Miyomei> Seveas, /proc/sys/dev/cdrom doesn't even exist. There's no cdrom folder.
[11:10] <Seveas> cat, you need linux-restricted-modules-k7 too
[11:10] <paladinew> ok, thats what I thought
[11:10] <Seveas> cat, best is to install the linux-k7 metapackage
[11:10] <Seveas> Miyomei, hmm....
[11:11] <Seveas> sounds like it's not going to work
[11:11] <john_> is it possible to add a channel to a favourites list in xchat???
[11:11] <nate__> what are the commands to copy/paste files?
[11:11] <theCore> Miyomei, /proc/sys/dev/cdrom should be there, even if there is no cdrom mounted
[11:11] <cat> Seveas, i tried to install linux-restricted-modules-k7 ,but it still the same...
[11:11] <Miyomei> Strange.
[11:11] <j3di> what is "auto eth0" in /etc/network/interfaces?
[11:11] <Belboz99> Hey, I just installed some software with Wine, where would I be able to fine the executable?
[11:11] <Miyomei> I'll burn the LiveCD from another comp for now.
[11:12] <nate__> in the terminal what command would i use to copy and paste a file?
[11:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> nate__: ctrl + shift + C to copy
[11:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ctrl + shift + V to paste
[11:12] <nate__> PuMpErNiCkLe, i mean in the terminal
[11:12] <Belboz99> nevermind, damn hidden folders get me every time!
[11:12] <scott_karana> nate__: the console?
[11:12] <nate__> yea
[11:12] <nate__> scott_karana, yea
[11:13] <olicat> can ubuntu breezy do 'sleep', rather than just suspend
[11:13] <scott_karana> I know there's something crazy like CTRL-SHIFT+INSERT to paste...
[11:13] <hawking> how can i remove a corrupt package??
[11:13] <nate__> no, it's something like "sudo cp /etc/xdg/openbox/menu.xml" or something
[11:13] <nate__> i forget
[11:13] <nate__> whatever i'll just google
[11:13] <cat> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-k7
[11:13] <cat> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-k7-nvidia-legacy
[11:13] <j3di> hawking: uninstall it using aptitude
[11:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> nate__: sudo cp /old/path /new/path
[11:13] <blue-frog> nate__, you can highlight everything with your mouse and then paste using the wheel button
[11:14] <hawking> j3di :)
[11:14] <theCore> cat, install the `` linux-k7 '' meta-package
[11:14] <scott_karana> is there a `kosher' way to change my max resolution and so-on in Ubuntu? The xorg.conf talks about dexconf, but that tool looks pretty benign to me.
[11:15] <szronik> I have two ethernet cards in my system, one of which I installed not too long ago because the first one gave me problems. Every time the system boots up, I have to manually do a sudo -s and do a 'ifup eth1' - is there a way to automate this process?
[11:15] <paulproteus|lapt> szronik: Use the GNOME network interface configurator.
[11:15] <Xenguy> szronik: /etc/network/interfaces IIRC
[11:15] <paulproteus|lapt> System -> Configuration -> Network
[11:15] <C-O-L-T> how to get mplayer
[11:15] <C-O-L-T> ???
[11:15] <szronik> Thanks a lot, will do.
[11:15] <cat> i am going to install all of them
[11:15] <MattwestM> can someone help me with a video problem
[11:15] <Xenguy> szronik: or what paulproteus|lapt said :-)
[11:16] <scott_karana> C-O-L-T: Try out Marillat's repositories.
[11:16] <theCore> cat, linux-k7 install all the packages you need
[11:16] <C-O-L-T> scott_karana: how ?
[11:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: Possibly, what's the problem?
[11:16] <C-O-L-T> scott_karana: say to me the adress
[11:16] <theCore> cat: BTW, why you want the k7 kernel ?
[11:16] <theCore> do you *
[11:16] <yggdrasil_> saif i found these http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/20/backing-up-the-mbr/ actualy deals exactly what your doing
[11:16] <scott_karana> C-O-L-T:
[11:16] <scott_karana> http://debian.video.free.fr/
[11:16] <C-O-L-T> ok
[11:16] <C-O-L-T> thnaks
[11:16] <Sanne> C-O-L-T, mplayer is in multiverse
[11:16] <MattwestM> right after I get past all of the processes starting, right before the login screen should show, it freezes
[11:17] <cat> theCore, because my cpu is not intel but AMD
[11:17] <scott_karana> Sanne: he'd probably want win32codecs too though
[11:17] <Sanne> scott_karana, ah, ok
[11:17] <KyKo> Okay I'm trying to use Wine so I can run Steam.  I run "wine Steam" and then it asks me if I want to log in using an existing account.  I click it.  I want to type my ID and pw but it doesn't show up in there.
[11:17] <KyKo> It goes to my console even though I click on the steam window.
[11:17] <yggdrasil_> god i cant wait tilli can buy a laptop ubuntu on i
[11:17] <thechitowncubs> Seveas, is there any other way because debfoster didn't remove ubuntu-desktop all the way it only removed gnome-themes.
[11:17] <hawking> Iwant to make my keyboard layout turkish but when Ido "setxkbmap tr" it says Error loading new keyboard description what should i do??
[11:17] <olicat> anyone know how to make a desktop sleep, with ubuntu breezy?
[11:18] <scott_karana> yggdrasil_: I did: I got an iBook and discovered that I couldn't do wireless.
[11:18] <khermans_> HOw do I install software with "make install" to another directory other than /usr/local ?  I want to make it in /home/myuser/bin
[11:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: Can you switch to a console (ctrl + alt + F2), or has it completely frozen?
[11:18] <blue-frog> thechitowncubs, why do you absolutely want to remove everything?
[11:18] <yggdrasil_> scott thats why im gettin a pc
[11:18] <yggdrasil_> and a pcmcia card
[11:18] <theCore> cat, you won't notice a performance difference with the k7 kernel, an Intel i386 is pretty much the same of an AMD i386
[11:18] <scott_karana> khermans_: when you do ./configure, ad a "--prefix=/path/to/dir" on the end
[11:18] <thechitowncubs> blue-frog, i want to remove everything besides what would be installed by a server insall.
[11:18] <thechitowncubs> install
[11:18] <khermans_> scott_karana, ahh thanks dude :-)
[11:18] <dargaard_> is there a list of software repository servers i'm getting 404 not found error when trying to download updates
[11:18] <blue-frog> thechitowncubs, i understood but why?
[11:18] <MattwestM> PuMpErNiCkLe: Ctrl + Alt +F1 freezes, I haven't tried with F2 though
[11:19] <scott_karana> dargaard_: I've heard that's happening to others, no idea what's happening
[11:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: Same thing... it's just a different console.
[11:19] <Psi-Jack> win32codecs?
[11:19] <thechitowncubs> blue-frog, because I want to use it as a server and not just a disabled desktop
[11:19] <blue-frog> thechitowncubs, do you RAM problem?
[11:19] <MattwestM> and, I am using a PCI ATI Radeon 7800
[11:19] <allan__> 7800?
[11:19] <allan__> does that exist?
[11:19] <Sanne> khermans, also do a './configure --help' first, it tells you useful stuff you can do.
[11:19] <dargaard_> i would like to try other servers if i could get a list of them
[11:20] <blue-frog> thechitowncubs, then configure it as a server and if you don't want gdm to run you disable it.
[11:20] <scott_karana> Again, is there a way other than messing with my xorg.conf to change screen resolution? The xorg.conf for ubuntu has always had warning about dexconf and stuff.
[11:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: That might - *might* - possibly be the problem... I've seen weird bugs because of ATI cards.
[11:20] <MattwestM> wait, my bad, 7500
[11:20] <allan__> ah
[11:20] <cat> theCore, ok maybe , i'll try the last time ,BTM what does this option do :       title		Ubuntu, memtest86+
[11:20] <thechitowncubs> blue-frog, well i don't want openoffice, etc installed also
[11:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: Do you have an integrated video controller/alternative card?
[11:20] <MattwestM> yes, there is an onboard card
[11:20] <Psi-Jack> I see mplayer, but not win32codecs.
[11:20] <thechitowncubs> i want all not needed packages removed, what don't you understand?
[11:20] <lymz> rhythmbox won't launch, where are the settings and profiles stored?
[11:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: Have you tried taking out the ATI card and using that?
[11:20] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: win32codecs is only on non-Ubuntu repos
[11:21] <theCore> cat, it launch a set of memory  tests
[11:21] <blue-frog> thechitowncubs, do you have RAM and disk sapce problems? if not you just let the stuff...
[11:21] <MattwestM> ok, control + alt + F2 doesn't work either
[11:21] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: try Marillat, or rarewares failing that
[11:21] <thechitowncubs> blue-frog, yes i do
[11:21] <Psi-Jack> scott_karana: Marillat?
[11:21] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: http://debian.video.free.fr/
[11:21] <blue-frog> thechitowncubs, then a server reinstall will be more advisable to my mind than risking possible problems..
[11:21] <cat> theCore,  ok ,noting useful ,del it from menu.list
[11:21] <cat> rebooting ..........
[11:21] <MattwestM> well, the onboard card is only 4MB, is that enought to run gnome?
[11:21] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: it's a repository for apt-get. I dunno your experience level...
[11:22] <thechitowncubs> blue-frog, gah
[11:22] <theCore> MattwestM, yes
[11:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: yeah
[11:22] <Psi-Jack> scott_karana: I've been out of the loop for Linux about 3 years or so. But I still regularly use BSD. I'm not incompetent, but I'm also not fully familiar, and a little rusty, with the way the package management went. :)
[11:23] <MattwestM> if it does work without the ATI, is there a way to configure it if I get it to boot?
[11:23] <yggdrasil_> what wireless cards are recomended for ubuntu ?
[11:23] <dargaard_> an alternative to http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu thats all i ask  if there are no mirrors at this time i'll just wait.
[11:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: yeah - we can install the official ATI driver, which should make it work.
[11:23] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: then there's probably enough info at the bottom of that page. Maybe find a HOWTO for Pinning and Repositories to get up to speed.
[11:24] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: http://rarewares.org/debian.html will give you more info
[11:24] <theCore> yggdrasil_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHardware?highlight=%28Wifi%29
[11:24] <theCore> yggdrasil, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[11:25] <yggdrasil_> thanks guys ill check it out
[11:25] <dargaard_> oh well i'm here i have another question, i'm using a logitech usb mouse  system will not boot while its pluged in, hangs on initializing hot plug, is there a fix for this?
[11:25] <olicat> anyone know how to make a desktop sleep, with ubuntu breezy?
[11:25] <allan__> where does stuff go when you delete it? is there a trash folder somewhere i can empty?
[11:25] <yggdrasil_> would be ideal to find a laptop with builtin that will work
[11:25] <scott_karana> allan__: if you did "rm" at the terminal, you might be out of luck
[11:25] <Psi-Jack> There. I could presumably just download the win32codecs.deb, and install it manually, right?
[11:26] <scott_karana> allan__: otherwise, there's a trash folder in the bottom-right for Gnome
[11:26] <allan__> i just right click deleted
[11:26] <Noriega> great, I can't record without having to listen to mself in the headphones...
[11:26] <Xappe> yggdrasil_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[11:26] <Noriega> or wait..
[11:26] <allan__> theres nothing on my desktop
[11:26] <kent> allan__, in the bottom panel there is a trashcan
[11:26] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: yeah, but using apt-get is a lot more convenient when it has dependencies.
[11:26] <Psi-Jack> scott_karana: True. But, does win32codecs have dependancies? :)
[11:26] <allan__> ahhh
[11:26] <allan__> i see
[11:26] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: probably not, but it's just not good practice.
[11:26] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: it  might want a different libc, or something.
[11:27] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm..
[11:27] <Psi-Jack> True,,
[11:27] <theCore> Psi-Jack, apt-get handle all dependencies for you
[11:27] <Psi-Jack> So, then, you actually recommend me to put debian-marillat in my sources?
[11:28] <allan__> its telling me i dont have permission to delete some things. i was transfering songs off a DVD, but i had to cancel in the middle because i had to leave. im trying to delete what i had transferred and start anew, but its not letting me
[11:28] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: Yeah, I do. It only has multimedia stuff, so it can't screw up your core OS.
[11:28] <MattwestM> ok, when I remove the Radeon card, it works fine
[11:28] <Psi-Jack> scott_karana: Good enough for me. :)
[11:28] <allan__> any ideas?
[11:29] <smtkr> I want to add . to my path, but I'm not familiar with the ubuntu interface. On the RH:EL systems at work (the way they have them set), I could just add a line like set path=($path . ) to my .cshrc file. I assume the equivalent in ubuntu is .bashrc, but adding a line like that doesn't work
[11:29] <Psi-Jack> scott_karana: I'm not /as/ used to binary-based package management. Most of the time in my later years of using Linux, I used source-based distros.
[11:29] <Xenguy> smtkr: no you don't...
[11:29] <theCore> allan__: cd ~/.Trash/ && sudo -rf *
[11:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: Okay, then, the most likely fix is to install and configure the official ATI driver and use it instead of the OSS version.
[11:29] <Psi-Jack> scott_karana: One of the reasons I burned out, probably. :)
[11:29] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: Fair enough. That's what I use on more production worthy machines, myself.
[11:29] <MattwestM> where do I get the driver?
[11:29] <Xenguy> smtkr: that's considered bad from a security POV :/
[11:29] <nate__> where's the openbox config files?
[11:29] <MattwestM> ATI?
[11:30] <smtkr> how so?
[11:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: This is teh easy part... :)
[11:30] <hawking> I want to remove a corrupt package but neither apt-get nor aptitude can remove it what should i do?
[11:30] <theCore> cd ~/.Trash/ && sudo rm -rf * <--- beware that can be really dangerous
[11:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI shows how to do it.
[11:30] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: If you need more help, feel free to msg me.
[11:30] <Psi-Jack> scott_karana: Yeah. I use BSD for my servers. Linux I'm evaluating to be workstations again. And so far, I'm quite impressed. :D
[11:30] <Psi-Jack> Linux has come a long way in a a few years.
[11:30] <scott_karana> No kidding!
[11:30] <gui> como fao mesmo pra entrar no canal br?
[11:30] <scott_karana> I remember trying to use an ancient Mandrake for servers, in the 90s.
[11:30] <gimmulf>  How do i add keybindings in Openbox?  tried adding bndings in /etc/xdg/openbox/rc.xml but that wont do it please help
[11:30] <scott_karana> Ugh.
[11:30] <nate__> where's the openbox config folder?
[11:30] <bluefoxicy> Fatal error: mime_magic could not be initialized, magic file /usr/share/misc/file/magic.mime is not available in /var/www/mediawiki-1.5.5/includes/MimeMagic.php on line 504
[11:30] <bluefoxicy> Anyone know which package?
[11:30] <scott_karana> !br
[11:30] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[11:31] <bluefoxicy> ubotu, magic.mime
[11:31] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, bluefoxicy
[11:31] <allan__>  cd ~/.Trash/ && sudo -rf * didnt work
[11:31] <Psi-Jack> scott_karana: heh heh.. Yeah. I've done the whole Mandrake thing myself.
[11:31] <MattwestM> ok, these drivers are for 9xxx cards, will this work for my 7500?
[11:31] <shrike_00> leave
[11:31] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: These days, the linux kernel is quite impressive. I am always undecided between using FreeBSD and Linux when I need a new machine.
[11:31] <j3di> gahh samba is a pain in the ass
[11:32] <Psi-Jack> scott_karana: Well, I put it bluntly. BSD's kernel is solid. VERY solid. And is designed highly for network use. That's one of many reasons I will only use BSD for a server.
[11:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: It's for all of them... that condition at the top is only a way of identifying if it's an ATI card.
[11:33] <allan__> its telling me i dont have permission to delete some things. i was transfering songs off a DVD, but i had to cancel in the middle because i had to leave. im trying to delete what i had transferred and start anew, but its not letting me
[11:33] <allan__> do i have to be the root user or something?
[11:33] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: I've been feeling tempted by Solaris lately, actually. It seems incredible, and I've got some decent SPARC hardware I could run it on. ;O
[11:33] <Psi-Jack> scott_karana: Oh, Solaris is an excelent OS. Very good stuff.
[11:34] <Set> united, united we stand
[11:34] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: Have you used it, then?
[11:34] <Xenguy> smtkr: missed your previous comment...
[11:34] <Psi-Jack> scott_karana: I've used practically any OS you can think of. :p
[11:34] <luisito> allan__, where are those files?
[11:34] <smtkr> ok, I just wanted to know what was bad security practive
[11:34] <allan__> home folder, my music
[11:34] <Psi-Jack> scott_karana: Aix, Irix, Solaris, Linux, BSD, Windows (of course), Mac OSX, etc etc etc.
[11:34] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: Have you used QNX personally? Ive heard of its stability, but I've no idea if anything is ported to it.
[11:34] <smtkr> adding . to my path or just the method by which I want to do it
[11:34] <MattwestM> ok, when I try to install the drivers, it says, package xorg-driver-fglrx not found
[11:34] <Psi-Jack> scott_karana: QNX is one I haven't used. But, I have used BeOS.
[11:34] <aggressor> hey
[11:35] <aggressor> can someone exsplane me one thing
[11:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: You'll have to enable the universe repository, I think.
[11:35] <cello_rasp> for everyone's benefit i would like to point out that if you have a problem, it's probably already mentioned and fixed on ubuntuforums.org. 2 longstanding problems down, a few more to go =)
[11:35] <Xenguy> smtkr: It makes exploits easier from what I understand (I'm sure there are other reasons too).  Anyway, this is what old-time *nix guys have told me in the past.
[11:35] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: I've still never used BeOS at all. Is all the hype understandable?
[11:35] <Xenguy> smtkr: adding . to your path
[11:35] <smtkr> ok
[11:35] <theCore> allan__ : cd ~/.Trash/ && sudo rm -rf *
[11:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: Open synaptic -> settings -> repositories -> check them all
[11:35] <Psi-Jack> scott_karana: It's a great OS.. It's just not very useful.
[11:35] <Majdaa> hey, i was installing ubuntu just now, until i got to the partitioning part
[11:35] <Majdaa> i have one full partition
[11:35] <Majdaa> is there a way to repartition that one partition while keeping all the files?
[11:36] <SiggyF> I was thinking about installing ubuntu on the pc of a friend of mine. I tried the live cd but it didn't play mp3-files. Does mp3 come standard or do I have to install a code manually?
[11:36] <luisito> go to terminal> cd ~/"my music"
[11:36] <Majdaa> and windows?
[11:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: Then click the 'reload' button on the main window.
[11:36] <Xenguy> smtkr: and BTW, please preface comments with a (auto-complete) nick, as this channel is very busy, and some of us are on more than one channel at a time ;-)
[11:36] <Psi-Jack> scott_karana: I weigh an OS by it's amont of hardware support, and software availability for it. BeOS has very few of either.
[11:36] <allan__> thank you
[11:36] <allan__> the command worked this time
[11:36] <luisito> then> sudo rm -r *
[11:36] <smtkr> Xenguy: Thank you.
[11:36] <Set> Psi-Jack, so you prefer windows?...
[11:36] <Xenguy> smtkr: yw
[11:36] <luisito> ah ok
[11:36] <gimmulf>  How do i add keybindings in Openbox?  tried adding bndings in /etc/xdg/openbox/rc.xml but that wont do it please help
[11:37] <olicat> anyone know how to make a desktop sleep, with ubuntu breezy?
[11:37] <aggressor> Unpack the archive with
[11:37] <aggressor> tar xzf Wine-*.tar.gz
[11:37] <scott_karana> Psi-Jack: Nice talking, but I hafta leave for now.
[11:37] <MattwestM> where do I go to open synaptics?
[11:37] <allan__> how do you send private messages over this?
[11:37] <aggressor> how i 2 that
[11:37] <Psi-Jack> Set: I've been using Windows for many years. Question is, do I prefer Windows over what? :)
[11:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: Oh, sorry... System -> administration -> synaptic package manager
[11:37] <Majdaa> hey, i was installing ubuntu just now, until i got to the partitioning part
[11:37] <Majdaa> i have one full partition
[11:37] <Majdaa> is there a way to repartition that one partition while keeping all the files?
[11:37] <Majdaa> and windows?
[11:37] <Set> Psi-Jack, Windows has Half-Life 2 :) can't hate Half-Life 2
[11:37] <errr_> to get common perl modules like LWP::Simple do you have to use cpan or does ubuntu have these in synaptic?
[11:37] <lymz> where are rhythmbox files stored?
[11:38] <yggdrasil_> what is rythmbox ?
[11:38] <aggressor> music player
[11:38] <yggdrasil_> noriega
[11:38] <Psi-Jack> Set: Heh. Yeah. I honestly don't play much for games. I occasionally do, but most of the time, all they did was waste HD space.
[11:38] <Psi-Jack> I'm wondering, if I could get NWN to work under Linux, though.
[11:39] <SiggyF> I tried the live cd but it didn't play mp3-files. Does ubuntu come with a mp3 player?
[11:39] <Psi-Jack> SiggyF: Well, yeah,
[11:39] <SirKillalot> SiggyF, yea, but not the codecs :-/
[11:39] <dos-assassin> I need help with a printer
[11:39] <SirKillalot> SiggyF, they have several problems with the licences and stuff ...
[11:40] <Noriega> yes yggdrasil
[11:40] <Psi-Jack> Man. These "license" issues have majorly increased in problem for Linux, hasn't it?
[11:40] <SiggyF> Psi-Jack: Ok, do I have to compile them myself. Or can I use apt-get?
[11:40] <aggressor> can someone help me
[11:40] <Psi-Jack> SiggyF: apt-get would work.
[11:40] <robotgeek> SiggyF, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:40] <Sanne> aggressor, if you just want to install wine, there are ubuntu packages at winehq.com: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[11:40] <errr_> any other perl programmers in here?
[11:41] <aggressor> i know
[11:41] <SiggyF> SirKillalot, robotgeek, Psi-Jack, thanks.
[11:41] <aggressor> but i need 2 unpack it 2
[11:41] <Majdaa> CAN ANYONE READ THIS?????
[11:41] <aggressor> i dont know how
[11:41] <Psi-Jack> Majdaa: Nope. Sorry.
[11:41] <aggressor> Unpack the archive with
[11:41] <aggressor> tar xzf Wine-*.tar.gz
[11:41] <aggressor> 2 2 that
[11:41] <dos-assassin> I am on a network with 2 other machines both with windblows xp on them, and I have just installed Lexmark X1185 on the main machine but I can't seem to print through it... why not?
[11:41] <theCore> Majdaa, nope
[11:41] <SirKillalot> aggressor, why don't you use the packages?
[11:41] <Majdaa> Okita, i'm not yelling, i'm just makin sure i dont' have to like identify and register to say anything
[11:41] <aggressor> coz im noob
[11:41] <Steve^> I can Majdaa! Talk to me!
[11:41] <robotgeek> Majdaa, what issue are you having?
[11:41] <Psi-Jack> Majdaa: But since you desire to be obnoxious, I'll ignore you now, rude tard.
[11:41] <aggressor> i have learn linux 2 days
[11:42] <Majdaa> no no i was just seeing literally if you guys could read it
[11:42] <Sanne> aggressor, go to the url I gave you, there are instructions that are easier than using a tar.gz file.
[11:42] <Majdaa> cause i asked 3 times and no one answered
[11:42] <Majdaa> no pun intended :)
[11:42] <robotgeek> Majdaa, lol.
[11:42] <aggressor> mm i made with synp... manager
[11:42] <aggressor> that means i have that prohram
[11:42] <Steve^> Perhaps I'll go run the Ubuntu CD and see if it can magically fix my partitions
[11:42] <Majdaa> i was installing ubuntu just now, until i got to the partitioning part
[11:42] <kicolobo> Hi, how can I add a DVD drive to my fstab file?
[11:42] <aggressor> ?
[11:42] <Majdaa> i have one full partition
[11:43] <Majdaa> is there a way to repartition that one partition while keeping all the files?
[11:43] <olicat> anyone know how to make a desktop sleep, with ubuntu breezy?
[11:43] <dos-assassin> Anyone help me with my printer?
[11:43] <Majdaa> and windows?
[11:43] <kicolobo> I had just installed a DVD recorder and whould like to use it under linux. So I think I should configure my fstab file. Am I right?
[11:43] <robotgeek> Majdaa, either partition magic/gparted (from live cd) can do the trick, maybe
[11:43] <MacSlow> Greetings everybody!
[11:43] <Majdaa> alright thank you very much
[11:44] <Majdaa> i'll try partition magic since i didn't download/burn the live cd
[11:44] <Majdaa> i downloaded the real thing
[11:44] <MacSlow> I'm wondering if installing 5.10 (that's what I have on CD) will be a good start for updating the whole system to 6.04 (beta) via the universe/mulitverse repositories?
[11:44] <Sanne> Majdaa, and backup your files! :)
[11:44] <Majdaa> ok
[11:45] <ahuxley> hi
[11:45] <kicolobo> What parameters should I use on the fstab file to access the DVD drive?
[11:45] <hawking> where is the X11 library located in a default ubuntu install?
[11:46] <kicolobo> should I reinstall ubuntu?
[11:46] <Sanne> hawking, you can see where istalled files went by looking at the package properties in synaptic.
[11:46] <Majdaa> just before continuing i wanna make sure: it supports (Dell Axim x51v, HP Photosmart 3200, Logitech QuickCam Orbit MP, and an iPod)?
[11:47] <Shoe> I'm getting the message "Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete."
[11:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MattwestM: How goes it?
[11:47] <Shoe> Cookies are allowed.
[11:47] <hawking> Sanne :Ihave no synaptic
[11:47] <Majdaa> add a "right" between the ) and the ?
[11:47] <SuperSam> Majdaa, My iPod only shows up as a HDD
[11:47] <Sanne> hawking, then on packages.ubuntu.com, package page, list of files.
[11:47] <ahuxley> Does Linux boot on EFI hardware?
[11:48] <Majdaa> SuperSam, does it work if you just drag files there?
[11:48] <Majdaa> i wouldn't think so....
[11:48] <Majdaa> oh wait..i'm gonna be dual booting
[11:48] <Majdaa> nevermind
[11:48] <SuperSam> Majdaa, Yeah, It saves them, but obviously doesn't play the music you drag across, and Pictures..
[11:48] <MacSlow> Can I use/install/update "Xorg 7.0" under Breezy Badger?
[11:49] <Shoe> anyone know where I can get previous versions of Ubuntu .Debs?
[11:49] <Seveas> MacSlow, no
[11:49] <aggressor> Sanne : how i can  send txt 2 you(red one)
[11:49] <Sanne> aggressor, sorry, I don't understand...
[11:49] <aggressor> samething what u did
[11:49] <kicolobo> how can I watch DVD movies on ubuntu?
[11:49] <aggressor> Sanne aggressor, sorry, I don't understand...
[11:50] <MacSlow> Seveas, so for "Xorg 7.0" (which I need for some coding stuff) I should go with a 6.04 beta?
[11:50] <Sanne> aggressor, what did i do?
[11:50] <aggressor> send me pm
[11:50] <aggressor> like
[11:50] <Seveas> MacSlow, yes, but breezy uses something called 6.8.2 which actually is very close to 6.9/7.0
[11:51] <Sanne> aggressor, ah, you mean the red coloring? That happens when you mention the nick in your reply.
[11:51] <aggressor> Sanne, nvm but if i have installed wine in synp.. manager that means i have that and i dont need 2 conf or nothing
[11:51] <Determinist> !cedega
[11:51] <ubotu> cedega is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[11:52] <MacSlow> Seveas, nah it's not really... at least 6.8.2 doesn't cut it for me... I've some ugly crashes for my experiments with RGBA-windows.
[11:52] <SuperSam> Cedega works on most games...
[11:52] <SuperSam> Cedega is brilliant
[11:52] <MacSlow> I'm doing some "eye-candy" stuff -> http://macslow.mine.nu/cairo-clock-1.png
[11:52] <Seveas> MacSlow, then you should poke at dapper
[11:52] <Prozac> Hey.... anybody able to help me with a minor problem?
[11:52] <Prozac> trying to mount an iso file
[11:52] <lsuactiafner> is there a 64bit compatible 32bit windows emulator ?
[11:52] <MacSlow> and want to get the window fully "floating" so no borders (easy) and a truely transparent bg
[11:52] <Sanne> aggressor, if you use wine packages for ubuntu, most stuff will be done for you.
[11:53] <Prozac> i followed the guid at ubuntuguide.org
[11:53] <SuperSam> Macslow, Thats very nice, I may consider using it when you are done ( if you would freely distribute it :P )/
[11:53] <Prozac> but got this error:
[11:53] <Prozac> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, missing codepage or other error
[11:53] <Seveas> Prozac, ubuntuguide.org sucks
[11:53] <lsuactiafner> Prozac : just ask, and -loop
[11:53] <zazza> hi all
[11:53] <MacSlow> It's easy too , but crashes on 6.8.2 (I'm on FC4 btw)
[11:53] <Seveas> Prozac, help.ubuntu.com / wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:53] <SuperSam> Hello Zazza
[11:53] <Seveas> MacSlow, Ubuntus 6.8.2 is not really 6.8.2
[11:53] <Sanne> aggressor, most important, you won't have to compile it yourself, and also ubuntu knows about the package.
[11:53] <lsuactiafner> Prozac : just ask, and -o loop
[11:53] <aggressor> Sanne, can u tell me your msn i need little help.. i wont bug u much :d
[11:53] <MacSlow> superchode, I'll share the code in cairo-in-motion (a CVS module at cairographics.org)
[11:53] <gimmulf> Where do i find my windowmanagers log?
[11:53] <Sanne> aggressor, now what might that be, my msn?
[11:54] <gimmulf> !openbox
[11:54] <ubotu> openbox is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Openbox
[11:54] <aggressor> yes
[11:54] <lsuactiafner> Prozac : to mound file.iso mount -o loop file.iso /mnt/point
[11:54] <MacSlow> Seveas, whem.. well then... any ISOs for Draper Drake beta?
[11:54] <pinkisntwell> can qtparted resize ntfs?
[11:54] <Seveas> MacSlow, cdimage.ubuntu.com
[11:54] <Sanne> aggressor, I don't know what "my msn" is.
[11:54] <MacSlow> Seveas, thx
[11:54] <Seveas> pinkisntwell, ntfsresize can
[11:54] <lsuactiafner> how do i make multiline comments in bash scripts?
[11:54] <mcphail> lsuactiafner: you can run windows on vmware or qemu on amd64. Wine works under a 32 bit chroot
[11:54] <dooglus> how can I disable nautilus without removing the nautilus package
[11:54] <aggressor> Sanne, than can u make dialog with me
[11:54] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, prefix each line with #
[11:55] <MacSlow> Seveas, I assume this is the one I should be interested in -> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-2/
[11:55] <pinkisntwell> Seveas: last time I used ntfsresize I had to use fdisk after and it creeps me out to try it again
[11:55] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : yeh but dont want to prefix everyline
[11:55] <Majdaa> wtf? partition magic tells me i have 31 gb of unallocated space, when my C: drive is 80 gb, and that's the only one i have...
[11:55] <Seveas> aggressor, just ask your questions in here
[11:55] <lsuactiafner> huge 8 line commment essay
[11:55] <robotgeek> dooglus: meaning?
[11:55] <Seveas> pinkisntwell, if qtparted can resize ntfs, it uses ntfsresize to do so :)
[11:55] <eth42> where are explicit names for MIME keys stored that Nautilus (gnome-vfs?) uses
[11:55] <MacSlow> SuperSam, I'll share the code in cairo-in-motion (a CVS module at cairographics.org)
[11:55] <Seveas> MacSlow, indeeed
[11:55] <Sanne> aggressor, sorry, better to stay in the channel, so everybody can help.
[11:55] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, you'll have to
[11:55] <MacSlow> superchode, sorry... that last things was intended for SuperSam
[11:56] <SuperSam> MacSlow, I'm looking on that site now.
[11:56] <Seveas> eth42, somewhere in gconf, poke at the gconf-editot
[11:56] <aggressor> Sanne, i  downlaoded WineHQ APT Repository with Synaptic
[11:56] <Seveas> cairo in motion
[11:56] <MacSlow> SuperSam, I blog about some of my coding here http://macslow.mine.nu/
[11:56] <Majdaa> wtf? partition magic tells me i have 31 gb of unallocated space, when my C: drive is 80 gb, and that's the only one i have...
[11:56] <Seveas> that sounds very neat
[11:56] <aggressor> Sanne, That means i dont need 2 2 nothing more ?
[11:56] <lsuactiafner> Seveas : that sucks
[11:56] <dooglus> robotgeek: nautilus is using 70Mb on this system.  I only have 250Mb.  I never use it, so I'd like that 70Mb back.  If I "apt-get remove nautilus", it removes ubuntu-desktop.  I don't want to do that.  But I don't want nautilus running.  I've tried killing it, but it restarts.  I've tried setting it to "trash" in the session dialog, but something keeps adding it back in.
[11:57] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, in vim: select all lines and do a :<,>:s/^/#/
[11:57] <Seveas> :)
[11:57] <aggressor> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[11:57] <Sanne> aggressor, so you now have wine installed. Look in your home dor if there's a (hidden) directory '.wine'
[11:57] <Sanne> home dir
[11:57] <aggressor> k
[11:57] <Seveas> dooglus, much of that 70mb is shared with other gnome parts
[11:58] <Seveas> don't be fooled by th way memory works in linux
[11:58] <aggressor> Sanne, no
[11:58] <SuperSam> MacSlow, I'm viewing some of your FC4 screencaptures... Where did you get the add on for your top toolbar displaying CPU temp, mother temp etc?
[11:58] <dooglus> Seveas: I still don't use nautilus, and would rather it wasn't running.  It must use some memory, even if it's not 70Mb
[11:58] <SuperSam> MacSlow, Would it work with my Ubuntu package if I can have it?
[11:59] <Blippe> dooglux look into openbox
[11:59] <aggressor> Sanne, now i need 2 finish with that 3.2 From Source
[11:59] <Blippe> it is in the wiki
[11:59] <MacSlow> SuperSam, www.cairographics.org is mainly only interesting for coders... there are no easy to digest .debs or so. Mainly just CVS and tarball of code-snapshots.
[11:59] <lsuactiafner> thank Seveas
[11:59] <Blippe> dooglus openbox in the wiki!!!
[11:59] <aggressor> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=2
[11:59] <lsuactiafner> i use joe though
[11:59] <Seveas> lsuactiafner, I dont, can't help you with that one
[11:59] <j1p> Is there a reason, on my windows machine, after a 'ipconfig /flushdns' it shows my updated DNS changes, but not on my Ubuntu laptop, where I did not set up any DNS cache?
[11:59] <MacSlow> SuperSam, that's some applet I found at www.gnomefiles.org
[11:59] <dooglus> Blippe: I don't want to use openbox.  I want to use GNOME.  I just don't have any use for nautilus.
[12:00] <Sanne> aggressor, there's a command that sets up your .wine config dir and also a fake windows drive that wine uses. Let me look, hold on.