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| Riddell | sebas: in pyqt how do I connect to a slot that takes arguments? | 12:41 |
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| Riddell | theine: kdelibs still compiling away I'm afraid | 12:41 |
| theine | Riddell, no problem, I can wait as I don't have a particular desperate need for building kopete svn right now | 12:44 |
| Riddell | sebas: if I do SLOT("foo") is only talks to the class I inherited from | 12:44 |
| dholbach | good night guys | 01:02 |
| Riddell | night dholbach | 01:02 |
| dholbach | night Riddell | 01:10 |
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| poimen | Riddell : I got a long nap lol I havent installed dapper yet | 02:19 |
| poimen | going to burn it now | 02:19 |
| Riddell | poimen: ah well, I'm about to go to sleep :) | 02:20 |
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| poimen | ok | 02:21 |
| poimen | what hr you going to be here tomorow? | 02:21 |
| poimen | well its 9;21pm here | 02:22 |
| Riddell | I have a meeting at 08:00UTC tomorrow so I'll be up for that | 02:22 |
| Riddell | it's currently 01:22UTC | 02:22 |
| poimen | ok | 02:23 |
| poimen | see you tomorow then :) | 02:23 |
| === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : UVF a week today | Flight 2 out || https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperGoals || http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu || Join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers/ | ||
| Riddell | freeflying_: what's happening with ttf-arphic-newsung? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1020 | 02:31 |
| === Riddell beds | ||
| allee | Riddell: digikam{,imageplugins}-doc is in debian non-free because of GFDL and not in kubuntu yet. | 02:42 |
| allee | Riddell: GFDL is 'no' problem for dapper, right? Whom do I have to trigger to get it synced? | 02:42 |
| Riddell | allee: FDL is fine for ubuntu | 03:00 |
| Riddell | for syncing ask me and I'll ask elmo | 03:00 |
| allee | Riddell: ok, so I ask you can you ask elmo to sync digikamimageplugins-doc? :) | 03:01 |
| Riddell | it's called digikamimageplugins-doc? | 03:01 |
| allee | Riddell: with digikam-doc I better wait until tomorrow/erro this morning. Forgot to ask Toma is we release 0.8.1 of the docs too | 03:02 |
| Riddell | allee: ok, poke me tomorrow, I'm asleep now anyway | 03:02 |
| allee | 'k | 03:02 |
| allee | yeah I better sleep too but I want a first draft of digikam-0.8.1 pkg | 03:03 |
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| freeflying_ | after upgrade from breezy to dapper , I can not build packages , it will give : can not find qt | 03:53 |
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| poimen | dapper flight 2 is prety stable so far | 04:14 |
| poimen | someone kwos how to enable multiverse in dapper? | 04:39 |
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| sebas | Riddell: self.connect(self.userlist, SIGNAL("selectionChanged(QListViewItem *)"), self.slotListClicked) | 09:14 |
| sebas | def slotListClicked(self,item): | 09:15 |
| sebas | That's an example from userconfig | 09:15 |
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| viviersf | Riddell : pING | 09:58 |
| Riddell | hi viviersf | 09:58 |
| viviersf | hehe | 09:59 |
| viviersf | hello | 09:59 |
| viviersf | when using kontact | 09:59 |
| viviersf | then you go to notes | 09:59 |
| viviersf | and create one | 09:59 |
| viviersf | it gives error about not making the file | 09:59 |
| viviersf | it seems that the knotes dir doesnt get created | 09:59 |
| Riddell | "Unable to save the notes to /home/jr/.kde/share/apps/knotes/notes.ics. " | 10:02 |
| Riddell | that one? | 10:02 |
| viviersf | ityes | 10:03 |
| viviersf | *yes | 10:03 |
| Riddell | how insane, I don't remember seeing any reports for that | 10:03 |
| Riddell | maybe nobody uses knotes | 10:03 |
| Riddell | I'll ask the kontact people | 10:04 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee! | 10:04 |
| Hobbsee | oops, wrong command! | 10:04 |
| Riddell | I always suspected there was something going on with you two :) | 10:04 |
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| Riddell | hello Huahua | 10:04 |
| Hobbsee | i meant /msg seth_k|lappy, not /nick seth_k|lappy! sheesh! | 10:04 |
| Huahua | hello Riddell | 10:04 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: yes, he helps me package, no more :P | 10:05 |
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| Hobbsee | ack | 10:06 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: why can't I do like this " sudo apt-get build-dep kate or orther kde packages" | 10:06 |
| Hobbsee | cant package anything that requires kdelibs4-dev | 10:06 |
| Mez | yeah - whats up with kdelibs-dev ? | 10:07 |
| Hobbsee | kdelibs4-dev: Depends: libkdnssd1-avahi but it is not installable | 10:07 |
| Riddell | hmm, did I forget to remove that? | 10:08 |
| Hobbsee | must have | 10:08 |
| Mez | Riddell: yeah i upgraded and it removed kdelibs4-dev and something else :d | 10:08 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: after I upgrade to dapper now , when I build kde package , it tell me qt or kdeincludes can not be found | 10:09 |
| Riddell | ok, I'll fix kdelibs4-dev now | 10:10 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: scim etc is ok in theory to go into main, so I'll | 10:11 |
| Riddell | ask the security man to review it | 10:11 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: cool ,thx | 10:11 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: unfortunately , I can make them work on my system now | 10:12 |
| Mez | Riddell: yeah - it should be fine - but for it to be backported is a no go | 10:12 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: can or can't? | 10:12 |
| freeflying_ | sorry , can't | 10:12 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: since when do they not work? | 10:12 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: excellent, thanks | 10:12 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: hard to tell | 10:13 |
| viviersf | Riddell, well the other dude in impi office uses knotes | 10:13 |
| viviersf | so he is annoying me a bout it lol | 10:13 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: they can work well about flight-2 | 10:13 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: but after flight-2, I turn back to breezy | 10:14 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: so I don't know if this phenomenon due to the patch of immodule | 10:14 |
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| Tonio_ | hi all | 10:18 |
| Mez | Riddell: whats the package(s) for the zeroconf sutff | 10:18 |
| Riddell | Mez: new kdelibs, new kcontrol has a module added, whatever program you want but kdnssd has the ioslave | 10:19 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: I'll do a fresh install to test them | 10:20 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: concerning kde bugs, would you suggest reporting on launchpad or bugs.kde.org ? I'm not very familiar with bug reports;) | 10:20 |
| Mez | Riddell: do we have a "Zeroconf places" in "Remote places" yet? | 10:20 |
| Riddell | Mez: yes, should do | 10:21 |
| Mez | Riddell: libkdnssd-avahi | 10:21 |
| Mez | not available apparently | 10:21 |
| Riddell | Mez: that's because it doesn't exist | 10:22 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: depends if it's a kubuntu problem or a KDE problem | 10:22 |
| Mez | so why does kdnssd depend on it ? | 10:22 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I think a kde one.... | 10:22 |
| Riddell | Mez: guess I need to reupload that too :) | 10:22 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: bugs.kde.org then | 10:22 |
| Mez | Riddell: ah: so no Zeroconf support yet ? | 10:22 |
| Tonio_ | ark bugs when you try to compress a folder when browsing system:/home..... but working with /home/username | 10:23 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: sounds like KDE then | 10:23 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay thanks ;) | 10:27 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: just building that powersave package, and then testing kpowersave... I will let you know if that sounds good | 10:27 |
| viviersf | Riddell, is pmount still needed by kde 3.5 ? | 10:52 |
| Mez | Tonio_, darn you - I was looking at doing that | 10:52 |
| Riddell | viviersf: yes | 10:52 |
| viviersf | koies | 10:53 |
| viviersf | *okies | 10:53 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: I was just thinking about test at the moment, not uploads ;) | 11:04 |
| Mez | ;) | 11:04 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: I you wanna do it, no pb | 11:05 |
| Tonio_ | Mez: already tested it ? | 11:05 |
| Mez | nah - lol - was looking at doing it :D but meh | 11:06 |
| Tonio_ | ;) | 11:07 |
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| gobbe | hello guys! | 11:18 |
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| tvo | "configure: error: /usr/bin/xmkmf (imake) failed." which pkg do I need to make it work? | 11:25 |
| tvo | (kdebase, that is) | 11:25 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: what kdebase version? | 11:26 |
| Riddell | hello gobbe | 11:26 |
| tvo | 3.5.0 from svn (assuming you mean tvo :) ) | 11:27 |
| Riddell | tvo: you need the patch which is in latest kdebase in dapper | 11:27 |
| tvo | k, wwas already guessing something like that, now browsing the debian/ of dapper kdebase | 11:28 |
| Riddell | --- kdebase/kdm/configure.in.in 2006-01-10 23:50:12.000000000 +0000 | 11:28 |
| Riddell | +++ kdebase/kdm/configure.in.in 2006-01-10 22:59:38.000000000 +0000 | 11:28 |
| Riddell | - if $XMKMF >&5 2>&1 && test -f Makefile; then | 11:28 |
| Riddell | + if $XMKMF /etc/X11 >&5 2>&1 && test -f Makefile; then | 11:28 |
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| tvo | cool, it works now | 11:34 |
| Riddell | phew :) | 11:35 |
| tvo | now to fix googlebar ;) | 11:36 |
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| \sh | Riddell: kdebase needs to have a give back..informed infinity / lamont already...only that you know without switching to -devel :) | 11:45 |
| Riddell | I'll see your kdebase and raise a kdenetwork | 11:50 |
| viviersf | Riddell, | 11:51 |
| viviersf | is there a kde package for pppoe ? | 11:52 |
| \sh | viviersf: you mean something like "pppoeconf"? | 11:54 |
| viviersf | yar | 11:54 |
| viviersf | but kdebase | 11:55 |
| viviersf | *kdebased | 11:55 |
| viviersf | or proper language | 11:55 |
| viviersf | qt based | 11:56 |
| \sh | not that I know of | 11:56 |
| viviersf | kk | 11:57 |
| viviersf | fancy putting a ,desktop file | 11:57 |
| viviersf | for pppoeconf | 11:57 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: I can not input chinese in kde program with either scim or other chinese input method like fcitx | 12:03 |
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| Riddell | viviersf: knet but I don't know if it works | 12:43 |
| viviersf | kk | 12:43 |
| viviersf | Riddell, | 12:43 |
| viviersf | wont you put in a desktop file for pppoeconfig ? | 12:43 |
| viviersf | or is that just a bad idea | 12:44 |
| viviersf | or | 12:44 |
| viviersf | should i rather put it in an impi package | 12:44 |
| Riddell | I've never used pppoeconfig, I don't know anything about it | 12:44 |
| Lathiat | it was taken out | 12:44 |
| Lathiat | intentoinally | 12:45 |
| Lathiat | not sure why but none the less | 12:45 |
| Lathiat | since theres no other way to configure pppoe | 12:45 |
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| allee | Hi all. wlassistant: I'm looking at current pkging qualility/status and some complains. | 12:59 |
| allee | is it worth to spend time on wlassistant or has kubuntu already a good state of the art wlan tool? | 12:59 |
| Riddell | we do not | 01:00 |
| allee | 'k to I'll try test again here. And decide again if it's worth fixing | 01:00 |
| Riddell | allee: Tonio_ already did it http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=776 | 01:01 |
| Riddell | doesn't seem to be in the archives | 01:01 |
| Tonio_ | hum......... Riddell debian packages of powersave and kpowersave are really crappy..... lots of lintian warnings.... | 01:01 |
| Tonio_ | isn't the clean lintian report a requirement of debian policy ? | 01:01 |
| Riddell | nope :) | 01:02 |
| allee | oh, nice. it's in alioth svn too since month. I'll have a look at Tonio_'s | 01:02 |
| Tonio_ | allee: works fine except some bugs........ | 01:02 |
| allee | Tonio_: not required but ftpmaster cal requect it | 01:02 |
| Riddell | yes, I seem to remember it had problems (not packaging ones) | 01:02 |
| allee | Tonio_: I know. but I've don't know anything better :( | 01:02 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: in fact after the initial working connection | 01:02 |
| Tonio_ | if you disconnect and reconnect, dhclient isn't launched | 01:02 |
| allee | easier to use that is | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | so you have to perform it manually......... | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | if that bug could be resolved it would work perfectly.... | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | I'm using it for month and that's the only bug I found | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | allee: I reported the bug, but no news.... I need to find a dev to make a patch hehe | 01:03 |
| allee | Tonio_: and the test www.google.com reachable need to be optional (not every home network in online all the time) :( | 01:03 |
| Tonio_ | unfortunately, I can't do it by miself | 01:04 |
| Tonio_ | allee: is there a test performed ? I didn't saw that ;) | 01:04 |
| allee | Tonio_: cause you're online :) | 01:04 |
| Tonio_ | allee: yep ;) | 01:04 |
| allee | Tonio_: more bugs you remember? I add then to debian/TODO | 01:05 |
| Tonio_ | hum.......... | 01:05 |
| Tonio_ | nope, I think that's all | 01:05 |
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| Tonio_ | allee: I will maybe place a bounty on launchpad for this... | 01:06 |
| Tonio_ | I could pay for a dev to find the bug ;) I want this app to rock hehe | 01:06 |
| Tonio_ | it is by far te only really clean and easy wireless connection tool I found for kde | 01:07 |
| Tm_T | gobbe: aye, got any? | 01:07 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: isn't there a big problem with uploads ? | 01:08 |
| Tonio_ | it is the third package that is uploaded but missing, concerning the packages I've done | 01:09 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: hum, if I update kdelibs, then I lose big bunch of -dev packages | 01:11 |
| Tm_T | known? | 01:11 |
| allee | Tonio_: lemme have a look at the code first (don't hold your breath. digikam 0.8.1 has priority) | 01:11 |
| Tonio_ | allee: ok ;) | 01:11 |
| gobbe | Tm_T, got what? | 01:16 |
| Tm_T | any answers | 01:16 |
| Tm_T | aah, idler! | 01:16 |
| gobbe | Tm_T, i'm quite hurry because f**n customers are calling and asking stupid questions ;) | 01:17 |
| Tm_T | gobbe: don't look at me like that ;-P | 01:17 |
| Tm_T | and I'm not asking anything stupid imo | 01:18 |
| gobbe | hihi | 01:18 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: none of the packages that I upload have problems, but then I upload with my own address in the changelog so I get the output | 01:20 |
| Tm_T | hmh, should I keep jabber audio support in kopete or just compile with unsermake | 01:21 |
| Tm_T | compiling speed vs one new function | 01:22 |
| Tm_T | install times: with unsermake ~10s and with make ~2min | 01:22 |
| Riddell | why does jabber audio support not compile with unsermake? | 01:23 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay, I will prompt siretart and then if he doesn"t know email elmo | 01:23 |
| Tm_T | dunno yet, DarkShock has somewhere the error of it... | 01:23 |
| JRe | Tonio_: when you have time to make the Keep package, pokes me I have one or two thing to tell you | 01:23 |
| Tonio_ | JRe: it is planed by the end of the afternoon ;) | 01:23 |
| JRe | Tonio_: ok, cool :) | 01:24 |
| Tm_T | ok, it's lost, I'll try to use unsermake myself to get error out | 01:24 |
| sealne | Riddell: do you think kde3.5 for breezy is perfectly fine to get people to use (for the forensics students) | 01:24 |
| Riddell | sealne: yeah should be | 01:26 |
| sealne | i'd have thought so my self but wanted a second opinion :) | 01:26 |
| Tm_T | KDE 3.5 <3 | 01:26 |
| sealne | starting an install tat i wanted to time just before wanting to go to the gym was a bad idea | 01:28 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: have you tested kopete 0.12 branch? | 01:30 |
| Tm_T | if you like, I might make package of it, so people can test it (without quarantee ofcourse ;p) | 01:31 |
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| gobbe | my workpal is now installing kubuntu and updating to kde3.5 and he's quite big gentoo fan :D | 01:54 |
| Riddell | :) | 01:55 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1477 | 01:57 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: I don't suppose that fixes all the problems with chinese in KDE? | 01:58 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: that's just upstream release fix some bugs | 01:58 |
| Riddell | yep | 01:59 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: have you triedd skim in dapper | 02:00 |
| freeflying_ | s/triedd/tried | 02:01 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: not really, I don't know how to use it | 02:01 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: I'm now rebuilding qt removing immodule patch | 02:02 |
| \sh | Riddell: added 2 new searchproviders to kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts...lpbug:<bugno> and lpproduct:<productname> | 02:11 |
| Riddell | \sh: what are the existing shortcuts again? | 02:11 |
| Riddell | ah, already uploaded | 02:11 |
| Riddell | ubw should be uwiki in my opinion and should point to wiki.kubuntu.org, I'll change that in a bit | 02:13 |
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| Lathiat | i got a question | 02:40 |
| Lathiat | is it just me | 02:40 |
| Lathiat | or is there no way to turn the clock into 12-hour mode | 02:40 |
| \sh | of course ther eis | 02:41 |
| \sh | right click on the clock | 02:41 |
| Riddell | this is KDE | 02:41 |
| \sh | then date & time format | 02:41 |
| \sh | then click on time & dates tab | 02:41 |
| \sh | and select the second entry in time format | 02:42 |
| \sh | press apply and ok...and feel free to dance the am/pm dance | 02:42 |
| \sh | and you have to restart the clock applet :) | 02:42 |
| Riddell | jjesse: gobbe here says he'd love to help with Kubuntu docs | 02:43 |
| Riddell | Lathiat: what's the status of avahi off by default? | 02:43 |
| Lathiat | \sh: oh | 02:44 |
| Lathiat | \sh: i see | 02:44 |
| Lathiat | thats totally unobvious | 02:44 |
| Lathiat | :) | 02:44 |
| \sh | well..the time format is somehow localized setting...so it belongs to the locale settings in kde | 02:44 |
| Lathiat | Riddell: to be honest i havent really ever touched the avahi package | 02:45 |
| Riddell | Lathiat: oh, why did I think you had then? | 02:45 |
| Lathiat | i work on avahi | 02:45 |
| Lathiat | just havent touched the debian package | 02:45 |
| Riddell | Lathiat: ok, sorry for the hassle then :) | 02:47 |
| Riddell | I see slomo in the changelog, I'll ask him | 02:47 |
| Lathiat | yeh slomo has done a fair bit | 02:47 |
| Lathiat | and ross | 02:47 |
| Lathiat | simple change none the less | 02:47 |
| Lathiat | could just not install avahi-daemon | 02:47 |
| Lathiat | which works fine | 02:47 |
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| Lathiat | means its harder to get when you want it tho | 02:47 |
| Lathiat | that said just installing it means it wont work anymore | 02:47 |
| Lathiat | its a tradeoff really | 02:48 |
| Riddell | how does not installing avahi-daemon work? | 02:50 |
| Lathiat | Riddell: libavahiclient doesnt depend on avahi-daemon | 02:50 |
| Lathiat | and apps will run without it running just the same as it being off by default | 02:50 |
| Lathiat | and if avahi starts theyll pick up and start using it (assumign its coded correctly) | 02:51 |
| Riddell | but you need the daemon to advertise anything presumably? | 02:51 |
| Lathiat | Riddell: you need it for anything | 02:51 |
| Lathiat | to advertise or browse | 02:51 |
| Lathiat | there is an option to turn off advertising by default but that doesnt satisfy the whole no open port thing | 02:52 |
| Riddell | so when you say not installing avahi-daemon works fine that's not really the case :) | 02:52 |
| Lathiat | Riddell: it works jsut as well as not starting it by default when installed ? | 02:52 |
| Riddell | why doesn't it satisfy no open ports? | 02:52 |
| Lathiat | because avahi listens on a port | 02:52 |
| Lathiat | if its started | 02:52 |
| Lathiat | (the daemon) | 02:52 |
| Lathiat | and ubuntu policy is not to listen on any port in default config | 02:53 |
| Riddell | yep | 02:53 |
| Lathiat | that said | 02:53 |
| Lathiat | the libc resolver listens on a port when in use | 02:53 |
| Lathiat | so you know :P) | 02:53 |
| Lathiat | -P | 02:53 |
| Riddell | it's probably easier to code the kcontrol module to edit /etc/defaults/avahi-daemon than to install avahi-daemon is my thinking | 02:55 |
| Lathiat | well | 02:55 |
| Lathiat | yes | 02:55 |
| Lathiat | let me change the package now | 02:55 |
| Lathiat | will have to ask ross & slomo what they think | 02:55 |
| Lathiat | and it has the disadvantage of installing avahi-daemon meaning it doesnt work | 02:55 |
| Riddell | can have a postinst saying "edit /etc/defaults/avahi-daemon to turn on" | 02:57 |
| Lathiat | or on boot like some other things do | 02:57 |
| Lathiat | rsync daemon ex | 02:57 |
| Lathiat | hrm | 02:58 |
| Lathiat | i dont know how to ask the rules file to install an extra file in /etc/defaults | 02:59 |
| Lathiat | CDBS styles? | 02:59 |
| Riddell | edit the .install file | 02:59 |
| Lathiat | ah | 02:59 |
| Lathiat | and just add it | 02:59 |
| Lathiat | how do i specify the place to put it? | 02:59 |
| Riddell | debian/avahi-daemon.defaults debian/avahi-daemon/etc/defaults/avahi-daemon | 03:00 |
| Riddell | or something | 03:00 |
| Lathiat | yeh i think so | 03:00 |
| Lathiat | or just etc/ | 03:00 |
| Lathiat | maybe | 03:00 |
| Lathiat | hrm | 03:00 |
| === Riddell goes for the most uploads of kdelibs in a day | ||
| Riddell | freeflying_: scim 1.4.4 looks fine, uploading | 03:01 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: nice | 03:02 |
| \sh | Riddell: swfdec 0.3.6 building | 03:24 |
| \sh | and it has a lot of pointer to integer of different size warnings...shame on upstream | 03:24 |
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| JakubS | Riddell: is libkdnssd-avahi folded into kdelibs4c2a package now? | 03:31 |
| \sh | Riddell: uploaded | 03:32 |
| Riddell | JakubS: yes | 03:33 |
| JakubS | then kdnssd package should now have libkdnssd-avahi as dependence | 03:34 |
| JakubS | s/now/not/ | 03:34 |
| Riddell | JakubS: correct :) | 03:34 |
| Riddell | but the new kdenetwork is waiting on the new kdelibs | 03:34 |
| \sh | Riddell: brrr..why didn't you tell me that swfdec is main | 03:37 |
| Riddell | umm, I didn't know, does it matter? | 03:38 |
| Riddell | I just saw that a new version was out | 03:38 |
| \sh | if it breaks yes :) | 03:38 |
| \sh | I will be blamed :) but anyways...new versions are good :) | 03:38 |
| Riddell | and it's fine to break universe of course :) | 03:38 |
| JakubS | btw: i checked kwin4 and it can publish/find games on LAN no problems | 03:38 |
| \sh | Riddell: yes, but not main :) | 03:39 |
| Riddell | JakubS: ok, maybe I'm being silly, I'll try again once I've sorted out these KDE packages | 03:39 |
| JakubS | and mateedit freezes completely when trying to create session, no idea why | 03:41 |
| sealne | Riddell: is http the only way to get kubuntu.org/packages/* ? | 03:43 |
| Riddell | sealne: yes | 03:47 |
| Riddell | how else would you like? | 03:47 |
| sealne | rsync? | 03:47 |
| \sh | via apt? | 03:48 |
| \sh | there is an apt-rsync? | 03:48 |
| Riddell | \sh: apt talks http | 03:48 |
| sealne | nah to make a local mirror | 03:48 |
| \sh | Riddell: that's what I know :) | 03:48 |
| sealne | and ofcourse ftp | 03:48 |
| \sh | sealne: oh...wget in mirror mode? | 03:48 |
| sealne | which is nasty and leaves crap lying around | 03:49 |
| Riddell | sealne: I don't really have any way of settings that up but most of the packages are also on ftp.kde.org which is mirrored on mirrorservice.org which does have rsync | 03:49 |
| sealne | k | 03:49 |
| Riddell | but more delay that way | 03:49 |
| sealne | better than it used to be, i rember mirror had 2 year old versions of samba | 03:50 |
| === freeflying_ sleeping time , night all | ||
| Tm_T | Riddell: that jingle&unsermake issue: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/502428 | 04:01 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: it needs -I.. set or something | 04:02 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: is the code in SVN? | 04:02 |
| Tm_T | yes | 04:03 |
| Tm_T | http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Kopete+Jabber+Jingle | 04:04 |
| jjesse | Riddell: for the docs we should remove any reference to bugzilla but what is the best link to submit a kubuntu specific bug? | 04:04 |
| Riddell | yes, good point. https://launchpad.net/malone | 04:05 |
| jjesse | Riddell: do i need to reference a specific distro? like https://launchpad.net/malone/distro/XXXX or just use https://launchpad.net/malone/distro/ubuntu | 04:05 |
| jjesse | where XXXX is kubuntu or is there not a distro for kubuntu? | 04:06 |
| Riddell | kubuntu is the same as ubuntu as far as malone knows I think | 04:06 |
| jjesse | when does flight3 come out? | 04:08 |
| Riddell | jjesse: tomorrow possibly | 04:10 |
| jjesse | Riddell: are the updated release notes going in there? is there any i need to update for flight3? | 04:11 |
| Riddell | hmm, I should do a kubuntu-docs upload should I? | 04:12 |
| Riddell | you could add that zeroconf support and CJK are in, although neither is really tested | 04:12 |
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| jjesse | Riddell: anything else that should be added to the release notes? | 04:18 |
| Riddell | jjesse: I think that's all for now | 04:19 |
| tvo | hmm, that right-click menu on konqui searchbar has never worked I think | 04:46 |
| hunger | Is zeroconf enabled in kubuntu now? | 04:48 |
| Riddell | hunger: I just uploaded kdebase and kdenetwork so cross your fingers that that'll compile OK and it will in a couple of hours | 04:48 |
| hunger | Riddell: Ah! I saw something about it when updating kdelibs and was wondering why konqui does not understand "zeroconf:/" | 04:49 |
| hunger | Riddell: Thanks for enlightening me once again. | 04:49 |
| Riddell | hunger: yeah, you need kdnssd which isn't installable until the new kdenetwork is in | 04:50 |
| Tm_T | :) | 04:50 |
| hunger | Riddell: Will that be part of dapper's kubuntu install? | 04:50 |
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| poimen | hello | 05:12 |
| poimen | :) | 05:12 |
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| poimen | Riddell hello | 05:14 |
| Riddell | hello poimen | 05:16 |
| poimen | Riddell : I got dapper flight installed and I did apt-get upgrade and downloaded 300mb of new sofware now I am doing the same :) | 05:16 |
| Riddell | awooga | 05:16 |
| poimen | lol | 05:16 |
| poimen | today kubuntu is broken too? | 05:16 |
| poimen | nevermind I am just finishing this 20mb download to install all the software | 05:17 |
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| poimen | hum. anoting bug in my machine in kde | 05:34 |
| Riddell | what's that? | 05:35 |
| poimen | I get 8 monted icons of /dev/hdb drive in the desktop lol and I dont even have a cd in the drive | 05:35 |
| poimen | also I get a /dev/hda icon showing it mounted | 05:35 |
| poimen | also I dont have any cd in the drive | 05:35 |
| poimen | let see if I can delet them via konsole because I cant with the gui | 05:36 |
| poimen | nope I cant | 05:36 |
| poimen | kde mount it like this media:/hdb7 media:/hdb6 media:/hdb5 etc... when I put a cd in I click on any icon and I get to the same files | 05:39 |
| poimen | strange thing | 05:39 |
| poimen | lol and If I want to eject a cd a I have to give the eject comand to all the 8 icons | 05:41 |
| poimen | lol | 05:41 |
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| nlindblad | Riddell: sorry | 06:25 |
| Riddell | nlindblad: hmm? | 06:25 |
| nlindblad | marked it invalid | 06:26 |
| Riddell | nlindblad: oh that's fine, nobody harmed | 06:26 |
| \sh | so...psi-0.10 is just finished to be ready for the archives | 06:28 |
| \sh | Riddell: do we get kde-3.5.1 before the 19th? | 06:30 |
| \sh | January 20th, 2006: Tagging KDE 3.5.1 | 06:31 |
| \sh | well..I think we can get it in | 06:32 |
| Tm_T | :) | 06:33 |
| Riddell | nlindblad: don't be put off :) | 06:41 |
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| nlindblad | Riddell: I won't | 06:42 |
| bobesponja | Riddell: [posted on #kubuntu] i don't know if it's too late for drapper but please consider using showimg instead of gwenview, it's really has nice features see http://www.jalix.org/projects/showimg/ | 06:43 |
| Tm_T | gwenview just works | 06:43 |
| Riddell | showimg doesn't even compile | 06:44 |
| Tm_T | hehe | 06:44 |
| bobesponja | Riddell: there's a new version out today | 06:44 |
| Riddell | bobesponja: oh cool, are you able to see if it compiles with dapper? | 06:45 |
| bobesponja | Riddell: sure, it does on my sid, i'll tell you about drapper | 06:46 |
| bobesponja | I'm gonna try now | 06:46 |
| trappist | showimg does look pretty sweet. looks like my gimv would look if it were pretty. | 06:47 |
| bobesponja | trappist: it is really sweet | 06:48 |
| bobesponja | :) | 06:48 |
| bobesponja | it can also use kipi plugins | 06:49 |
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| bobesponja | but I think gwenview too | 06:49 |
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| allee | bobesponja: yes, showimg, gwenview and digikam, kimdaba use kipi-plugins | 08:00 |
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| === allee wonders why the hell they choose not put the location field next to the directory tree view. The on always feels lost in the little treeview | ||
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| \sh | wow...jim is thinking about applying a 2004 patch towards pykde...because I discussed again to loud | 08:34 |
| Riddell | go \sh :) | 08:34 |
| \sh | well...I mentioned that kubuntu is shipping pykde in their main repositories and even the great kubuntu leader is coding with pykde :) | 08:35 |
| \sh | great kubuntu leader != sabdfl | 08:35 |
| Riddell | hmm? who's that then? | 08:36 |
| \sh | who else then you :) | 08:37 |
| Riddell | oh, him :) | 08:37 |
| Riddell | yeah, pykde rocks | 08:38 |
| Tm_T | yeah, he is king | 08:38 |
| Tm_T | ...you mean me?! :O | 08:38 |
| apokryphos | kubuntu dedication to pykde -- perfect, my plan to convert my brother is developing. | 08:38 |
| \sh | hmm...what about starting a discussion on kde-devel with the topic "kde development cycle should match kubuntus release cycle"...and as argument "if you don't follow our rules, we will switch to gnome" | 08:38 |
| \sh | hehehe | 08:38 |
| Tm_T | \sh: yeah! | 08:39 |
| \sh | dum dum de dum kubuntu de dum dum kubuntu :) | 08:39 |
| apokryphos | a kubuntu theme tune; perfect. | 08:40 |
| Tm_T | \sh: whoooops | 08:40 |
| \sh | apokryphos: actually it's the ubuntu thought crime song :) | 08:40 |
| apokryphos | ok, back to the piano/drums to develop a unique kubuntu one then | 08:41 |
| Tm_T | \sh: well, response was mostly just "lol"... people doesn't takee us seriously, how's your gnome installing is going on? | 08:41 |
| Tm_T | -e | 08:41 |
| Tm_T | I'm about to finish it | 08:41 |
| \sh | Tm_T: hehe :) | 08:42 |
| Tm_T | hey, don't laugh! gnome isn't fun | 08:42 |
| \sh | Tm_T: I have all three desktop environments on my laptop..so I can switch quite easily | 08:42 |
| Riddell | three? | 08:42 |
| \sh | gnome, kde, xfce | 08:42 |
| Tm_T | yeah, but now you can't use kde anymore, it was your idea! | 08:43 |
| \sh | Tm_T: actually I know this would never happen in the near future..:) | 08:43 |
| Tm_T | haha | 08:44 |
| Tm_T | damn, why I'm using gnome then? I'm switching back | 08:44 |
| \sh | Riddell: you don't know anything about xubuntu? :) | 08:44 |
| Riddell | \sh: only that they stole ivman off us | 08:45 |
| Riddell | I don't know their status though | 08:45 |
| Tm_T | xubuntu is quite good, I installed it to my older sister's laptop | 08:45 |
| \sh | I'm waiting now for suns project named cubuntu ubuntu with cde | 08:46 |
| Riddell | yuck | 08:46 |
| Tm_T | noooo | 08:47 |
| Tm_T | wubuntu, ubuntu with WindowMaker <3 | 08:47 |
| \sh | well, to be honest, on a sun blade 1000 cde was much more usable then kde 2.x or gnome 1 | 08:47 |
| Tm_T | wubuntu sounds funny :p | 08:47 |
| === nlindblad hugs Kubuntu | ||
| Tm_T | me too? | 08:48 |
| nlindblad | sure | 08:48 |
| === nlindblad hugs Tm_T | ||
| Tm_T | get away from me you pervert! | 08:49 |
| \sh | hmmm..utnubu.com is registered by canonical...why not kutnubu? | 08:49 |
| Tm_T | \sh: =) | 08:49 |
| Tm_T | nubu aka noob | 08:49 |
| Tm_T | nlindblad: ;) | 08:49 |
| === Tm_T hugs back nlindblad | ||
| nlindblad | Tm_T: no gay feelings now | 08:50 |
| nlindblad | cause you ain't gonna get any back :D | 08:50 |
| Tm_T | gay? you swedish are all blond and thinking gay... | 08:50 |
| Tm_T | yuk! | 08:51 |
| Tm_T | ;) | 08:51 |
| Tm_T | nlindblad: btw you don't even know my sex so how you can blame me gayish | 08:52 |
| nlindblad | true | 08:52 |
| Tm_T | ;) | 08:52 |
| nlindblad | do you know mine? | 08:52 |
| Tm_T | (and thats why I wonder how the hell you could know that I'm gay) | 08:53 |
| Tm_T | whoops | 08:53 |
| nlindblad | :D | 08:53 |
| Tm_T | ok, that wasn't funny written... I need coffee -> | 08:53 |
| nlindblad | Tm_T: you're gay? | 08:54 |
| Riddell | you'd never get away with this sort of conversation in #ubuntu-devel | 08:54 |
| \sh | nlindblad: who is not gay? :) | 08:54 |
| nlindblad | Riddell: shouldn't _all_ feature requests go through launchpad? | 08:55 |
| Riddell | nlindblad: major feature requests should be a spec on launchpad, packages for inclusion to MOTU, other stuff can be wishlist beastie items | 08:56 |
| nlindblad | I see | 08:57 |
| nlindblad | so thunderbird being compiled with other options shouldn't go to launchpad but stay in bugzilla? | 08:57 |
| Riddell | yes, that's a wishlist beastie | 08:58 |
| nlindblad | right | 08:58 |
| nlindblad | damn, got it wrong twice today | 08:58 |
| Tm_T | nlindblad: nope, but I do have twisted sense humour | 08:59 |
| Tm_T | +of | 08:59 |
| nlindblad | Tm_T: okey, good to know | 08:59 |
| Tm_T | so don't try me ;) | 08:59 |
| Riddell | motu meeting on #ubuntu-meeting | 08:59 |
| \sh | nlindblad: until tomorrow :) | 09:00 |
| nlindblad | motu? | 09:00 |
| \sh | yes | 09:00 |
| nlindblad | means? | 09:00 |
| Tm_T | masters of the universe | 09:01 |
| nlindblad | okey | 09:01 |
| Riddell | nlindblad: the community that looks after all the universe packages | 09:01 |
| Tm_T | err, how that sounds he-man -like | 09:01 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: I think that's the idea :) | 09:01 |
| Tm_T | aye | 09:01 |
| Tm_T | I think too | 09:01 |
| Tm_T | but... nevermind, you haven't seen it | 09:02 |
| nlindblad | maybe I'm to dumb to handle bug reports | 09:06 |
| Riddell | nlindblad: why? you do good | 09:09 |
| nlindblad | hmm, maybe I'll get more experienced in time | 09:10 |
| nlindblad | s/in time/the more time I spend/ | 09:10 |
| Riddell | yes, do lots more! | 09:11 |
| Tm_T | hehe | 09:19 |
| Tm_T | work harder! *whip* | 09:19 |
| nlindblad | Tm_T: okey, will do | 09:24 |
| nlindblad | a little tired this evening | 09:24 |
| nlindblad | got home an hour later than usually | 09:24 |
| nlindblad | because when I came to the bus terminal the bus that I should switch to wasn't there | 09:25 |
| nlindblad | it had engine problems | 09:25 |
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| Tm_T | I pushde 15min big van from icy parking lot | 09:28 |
| Tm_T | it was +1 when it was parked, -1 when it was supposed to move | 09:28 |
| Tm_T | glad I'm big and strong | 09:29 |
| Tm_T | like 53kg ;) | 09:29 |
| Tm_T | anyway gone -> | 09:29 |
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| hunger | Riddell: zeroconf seams to work for me... nothing to see since this is the only box on my lan, but konqui displays an empty page when doing zeroconf:/ now. | 10:47 |
| Riddell | hunger: use kpf to publish something and it should show up | 10:47 |
| hunger | Riddell: Aehmmm... how? | 10:48 |
| Riddell | hunger: add public fileshare applet to kicker | 10:49 |
| === hunger has kpf installed, but running kpf gives a command not found. | ||
| Riddell | it's a kicker applet | 10:50 |
| hunger | It is listed... but when I try to access the server my panel crashes. | 10:50 |
| hunger | So zeroconf seems to work... but kpf doesen't:-( | 10:51 |
| Riddell | hum, that's not good | 10:55 |
| trappist | kpf doesn't have an executable | 10:57 |
| hunger | Riddell: What I find way more annoying is that ksysguard does not do cpufreq info anymor. | 10:57 |
| hunger | Riddell: It gives the max frequency all the time! scaling_cur_freq is definitly lower. | 10:58 |
| hunger | Riddell: Hmmm... ksysguardd is rather oldish... doesen't use /sys but some file in proc. I think that just does not contain the necessary info anymore:-( | 11:03 |
| bobesponja | I'm trying to compile showimg but I get an error about libXft.la, it doesn't exists | 11:13 |
| bobesponja | and grep libXft.la /usr/lib/*.la return many files | 11:14 |
| bobesponja | but i installed all the dev libs and it's still not there | 11:14 |
| bobesponja | anybody know what's the problem? | 11:14 |
| allee | bobesponja: yep the .la files was in breezy but is now no longer in dapper | 11:15 |
| allee | is your system updated from breezy to dapper? | 11:15 |
| Riddell | bobesponja: use a dapper chroot | 11:15 |
| Riddell | or use dapper | 11:15 |
| bobesponja | Riddell: I use a drapper | 11:15 |
| bobesponja | Riddell: I installed from the iso | 11:15 |
| bobesponja | the drapper iso | 11:15 |
| bobesponja | Dapper Drake Flight 2 | 11:16 |
| Riddell | grep libXft.la /usr/lib/*la | 11:16 |
| hunger | Riddell: Bah, ksysguard is seriously rotten! It does not even know /sys yet! | 11:17 |
| bobesponja | Riddell: yep, that's what I did and it looks like many kde app still depends on it | 11:17 |
| bobesponja | in drapper | 11:18 |
| Riddell | very few here | 11:18 |
| Riddell | use a chroot then | 11:18 |
| bobesponja | Riddell: chroot into what? | 11:19 |
| Riddell | your chroot :) | 11:19 |
| Riddell | see DebootstrapChroot | 11:19 |
| allee | bobesponja: for all makefiles: grep LIB_ Makefile.am | grep lXft | 11:19 |
| bobesponja | allee: nothing | 11:20 |
| allee | bobesponja: if you find noting then one of the build deps brings it in: Not sure how to fix it then | 11:21 |
| allee | ah, grep for _LIB too ;) | 11:21 |
| bobesponja | allee: still nothing | 11:24 |
| bobesponja | wait | 11:24 |
| Riddell | longest MOTU meeting ever... | 11:25 |
| bobesponja | nope still nothing | 11:25 |
| crimsun | Riddell: no kidding. I have to duck out for yet another meeting. | 11:26 |
| allee | bobesponja: sorry I ran out of idea. what showimg version are you trying to build? | 11:27 |
| bobesponja | 0.95 | 11:27 |
| allee | where can I download tar + diff? | 11:27 |
| bobesponja | I need to try the debootstrap I guess | 11:27 |
| bobesponja | allee: http://www.jalix.org/projects/showimg/download/0.9.5/showimg-0.9.5.tar.bz2 | 11:28 |
| bobesponja | allee: tell me if you succeed :) | 11:30 |
| allee | bobesponja: me awaits 3 hours highway now. I will have a look tomorrow. Just wanted to make sure it's that I have it on my disk before I leave. | 11:32 |
| bobesponja | allee: ok | 11:33 |
| bobesponja | allee: I'll bug you tomorrow then to know how it turned out :) | 11:34 |
| allee | bobesponja: mhmm I've to write 2 emails can't hurt to run debuild right now ... | 11:34 |
| bobesponja | allee: sure | 11:34 |
| === hunger just reported the broken ksysguard as malone #6724. | ||
| hunger | If only malone wouldn't be so confusing! | 11:35 |
| hunger | ... and I assigned it to kubuntu team as well. I hope that is the proper team for this. | 11:37 |
| hunger | Good night! | 11:38 |
| allee | bobesponja: builds fine here: -rw-r--r-- 1 ach ach 3582880 2006-01-12 23:41 ../../showimg_0.9.5-0ubuntu1_i386.deb | 11:47 |
| allee | bobesponja: I've also dapper from flight2. Strange that I did not run into the same problem | 11:48 |
| bobesponja | allee: do you use universe? | 11:49 |
| bobesponja | allee: maybe that messes it up | 11:49 |
| allee | they, main restricted universe and multiverse | 11:49 |
| bobesponja | allee: well thanx, you can tell Riddell about it because he told me he would give it a try as a gwenview replacement if it compiles | 11:50 |
| bobesponja | allee: can you give me the command line to build the dep, i'd like to try | 11:52 |
| bobesponja | to build the deb | 11:52 |
| allee | digikam 0.8.1 rc1 debs for brezzy and dapper please test: http://rafb.net/paste/results/6QgnvR32.html | 11:52 |
| allee | breezy deb is just a pbuild. so may not run at all. Not tested. have to go now | 11:52 |
| allee | bobesponja: unpacked 0.9.5 added 0.9.4.1 diff.gz debian dir and run : debuild | 11:53 |
| allee | bobesponja: no big magic ;) | 11:53 |
| bobesponja | :) | 11:53 |
| bobesponja | thx | 11:53 |
| allee | bye | 11:54 |
| bobesponja | good night | 11:54 |
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