=== LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === theine [n=theine@0x535d6f34.bynxx17.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:41] sebas: in pyqt how do I connect to a slot that takes arguments? [12:41] theine: kdelibs still compiling away I'm afraid [12:44] Riddell, no problem, I can wait as I don't have a particular desperate need for building kopete svn right now [12:44] sebas: if I do SLOT("foo") is only talks to the class I inherited from [01:02] good night guys [01:02] night dholbach [01:10] night Riddell === dholbach [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/dholbach] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ex-Chat"] === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F593E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:19] Riddell : I got a long nap lol I havent installed dapper yet [02:19] going to burn it now [02:20] poimen: ah well, I'm about to go to sleep :) === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:21] ok [02:21] what hr you going to be here tomorow? [02:22] well its 9;21pm here [02:22] I have a meeting at 08:00UTC tomorrow so I'll be up for that [02:22] it's currently 01:22UTC [02:23] ok [02:23] see you tomorow then :) === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : UVF a week today | Flight 2 out || https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperGoals || http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu || Join: http://www.last.fm/group/Kubuntu+Developers/ [02:31] freeflying_: what's happening with ttf-arphic-newsung? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1020 === Riddell beds [02:42] Riddell: digikam{,imageplugins}-doc is in debian non-free because of GFDL and not in kubuntu yet. [02:42] Riddell: GFDL is 'no' problem for dapper, right? Whom do I have to trigger to get it synced? [03:00] allee: FDL is fine for ubuntu [03:00] for syncing ask me and I'll ask elmo [03:01] Riddell: ok, so I ask you can you ask elmo to sync digikamimageplugins-doc? :) [03:01] it's called digikamimageplugins-doc? [03:02] Riddell: with digikam-doc I better wait until tomorrow/erro this morning. Forgot to ask Toma is we release 0.8.1 of the docs too [03:02] allee: ok, poke me tomorrow, I'm asleep now anyway [03:02] 'k [03:03] yeah I better sleep too but I want a first draft of digikam-0.8.1 pkg === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-006-110.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:53] after upgrade from breezy to dapper , I can not build packages , it will give : can not find qt === poimen [n=poimen@66.231.167.61] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:14] dapper flight 2 is prety stable so far [04:39] someone kwos how to enable multiverse in dapper? === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cmvo [n=cmvo@62.225.11.174] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@wbs-196-2-105-30.wbs.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:14] Riddell: self.connect(self.userlist, SIGNAL("selectionChanged(QListViewItem *)"), self.slotListClicked) [09:15] def slotListClicked(self,item): [09:15] That's an example from userconfig === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:58] Riddell : pING [09:58] hi viviersf [09:59] hehe [09:59] hello [09:59] when using kontact [09:59] then you go to notes [09:59] and create one [09:59] it gives error about not making the file [09:59] it seems that the knotes dir doesnt get created [10:02] "Unable to save the notes to /home/jr/.kde/share/apps/knotes/notes.ics. " [10:02] that one? [10:03] ityes [10:03] *yes [10:03] how insane, I don't remember seeing any reports for that [10:03] maybe nobody uses knotes [10:04] I'll ask the kontact people [10:04] Hobbsee! [10:04] oops, wrong command! [10:04] I always suspected there was something going on with you two :) === Huahua [n=hua@221.172.50.143] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:04] hello Huahua [10:04] i meant /msg seth_k|lappy, not /nick seth_k|lappy! sheesh! [10:04] hello Riddell === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:05] Riddell: yes, he helps me package, no more :P === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:06] ack [10:06] Riddell: why can't I do like this " sudo apt-get build-dep kate or orther kde packages" [10:06] cant package anything that requires kdelibs4-dev [10:07] yeah - whats up with kdelibs-dev ? [10:07] kdelibs4-dev: Depends: libkdnssd1-avahi but it is not installable [10:08] hmm, did I forget to remove that? [10:08] must have [10:08] Riddell: yeah i upgraded and it removed kdelibs4-dev and something else :d [10:09] Riddell: after I upgrade to dapper now , when I build kde package , it tell me qt or kdeincludes can not be found [10:10] ok, I'll fix kdelibs4-dev now [10:11] freeflying_: scim etc is ok in theory to go into main, so I'll [10:11] ask the security man to review it [10:11] Riddell: cool ,thx [10:12] Riddell: unfortunately , I can make them work on my system now [10:12] Riddell: yeah - it should be fine - but for it to be backported is a no go [10:12] freeflying_: can or can't? [10:12] sorry , can't [10:12] freeflying_: since when do they not work? [10:12] Riddell: excellent, thanks [10:13] Riddell: hard to tell [10:13] Riddell, well the other dude in impi office uses knotes [10:13] so he is annoying me a bout it lol [10:13] Riddell: they can work well about flight-2 [10:14] Riddell: but after flight-2, I turn back to breezy [10:14] Riddell: so I don't know if this phenomenon due to the patch of immodule === Hobbsee waits for the fix of kdelibs4-dev, and reads the cdbs documentation in the meantime [10:18] hi all [10:18] Riddell: whats the package(s) for the zeroconf sutff [10:19] Mez: new kdelibs, new kcontrol has a module added, whatever program you want but kdnssd has the ioslave [10:20] Riddell: I'll do a fresh install to test them [10:20] Riddell: concerning kde bugs, would you suggest reporting on launchpad or bugs.kde.org ? I'm not very familiar with bug reports;) [10:20] Riddell: do we have a "Zeroconf places" in "Remote places" yet? [10:21] Mez: yes, should do [10:21] Riddell: libkdnssd-avahi [10:21] not available apparently [10:22] Mez: that's because it doesn't exist [10:22] Tonio_: depends if it's a kubuntu problem or a KDE problem [10:22] so why does kdnssd depend on it ? [10:22] Riddell: I think a kde one.... [10:22] Mez: guess I need to reupload that too :) [10:22] Tonio_: bugs.kde.org then [10:22] Riddell: ah: so no Zeroconf support yet ? [10:23] ark bugs when you try to compress a folder when browsing system:/home..... but working with /home/username [10:23] Tonio_: sounds like KDE then [10:27] Riddell: okay thanks ;) [10:27] Riddell: just building that powersave package, and then testing kpowersave... I will let you know if that sounds good [10:52] Riddell, is pmount still needed by kde 3.5 ? [10:52] Tonio_, darn you - I was looking at doing that [10:52] viviersf: yes [10:53] koies [10:53] *okies [11:04] Mez: I was just thinking about test at the moment, not uploads ;) [11:04] ;) [11:05] Mez: I you wanna do it, no pb [11:05] Mez: already tested it ? [11:06] nah - lol - was looking at doing it :D but meh [11:07] ;) === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gobbe [n=jauroju@korppi.elma.fi] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:18] hello guys! === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:25] "configure: error: /usr/bin/xmkmf (imake) failed." which pkg do I need to make it work? [11:25] (kdebase, that is) [11:26] Tonio_: what kdebase version? [11:26] hello gobbe [11:27] 3.5.0 from svn (assuming you mean tvo :) ) [11:27] tvo: you need the patch which is in latest kdebase in dapper [11:28] k, wwas already guessing something like that, now browsing the debian/ of dapper kdebase [11:28] --- kdebase/kdm/configure.in.in 2006-01-10 23:50:12.000000000 +0000 [11:28] +++ kdebase/kdm/configure.in.in 2006-01-10 22:59:38.000000000 +0000 [11:28] - if $XMKMF >&5 2>&1 && test -f Makefile; then [11:28] + if $XMKMF /etc/X11 >&5 2>&1 && test -f Makefile; then === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:34] cool, it works now [11:35] phew :) [11:36] now to fix googlebar ;) === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:45] <\sh> Riddell: kdebase needs to have a give back..informed infinity / lamont already...only that you know without switching to -devel :) [11:50] I'll see your kdebase and raise a kdenetwork [11:51] Riddell, [11:52] is there a kde package for pppoe ? [11:54] <\sh> viviersf: you mean something like "pppoeconf"? [11:54] yar [11:55] but kdebase [11:55] *kdebased [11:55] or proper language [11:56] qt based [11:56] <\sh> not that I know of [11:57] kk [11:57] fancy putting a ,desktop file [11:57] for pppoeconf [12:03] Riddell: I can not input chinese in kde program with either scim or other chinese input method like fcitx === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lathiat [i=lathiat@ubuntu/member/lathiat] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:43] viviersf: knet but I don't know if it works [12:43] kk [12:43] Riddell, [12:43] wont you put in a desktop file for pppoeconfig ? [12:44] or is that just a bad idea [12:44] or [12:44] should i rather put it in an impi package [12:44] I've never used pppoeconfig, I don't know anything about it [12:44] it was taken out [12:45] intentoinally [12:45] not sure why but none the less [12:45] since theres no other way to configure pppoe === JRe [n=JRe@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:59] Hi all. wlassistant: I'm looking at current pkging qualility/status and some complains. [12:59] is it worth to spend time on wlassistant or has kubuntu already a good state of the art wlan tool? [01:00] we do not [01:00] 'k to I'll try test again here. And decide again if it's worth fixing [01:01] allee: Tonio_ already did it http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=776 [01:01] doesn't seem to be in the archives [01:01] hum......... Riddell debian packages of powersave and kpowersave are really crappy..... lots of lintian warnings.... [01:01] isn't the clean lintian report a requirement of debian policy ? [01:02] nope :) [01:02] oh, nice. it's in alioth svn too since month. I'll have a look at Tonio_'s [01:02] allee: works fine except some bugs........ [01:02] Tonio_: not required but ftpmaster cal requect it [01:02] yes, I seem to remember it had problems (not packaging ones) [01:02] Tonio_: I know. but I've don't know anything better :( [01:02] Riddell: in fact after the initial working connection [01:02] if you disconnect and reconnect, dhclient isn't launched [01:03] easier to use that is [01:03] so you have to perform it manually......... [01:03] if that bug could be resolved it would work perfectly.... [01:03] I'm using it for month and that's the only bug I found [01:03] allee: I reported the bug, but no news.... I need to find a dev to make a patch hehe [01:03] Tonio_: and the test www.google.com reachable need to be optional (not every home network in online all the time) :( [01:04] unfortunately, I can't do it by miself [01:04] allee: is there a test performed ? I didn't saw that ;) [01:04] Tonio_: cause you're online :) [01:04] allee: yep ;) [01:05] Tonio_: more bugs you remember? I add then to debian/TODO [01:05] hum.......... [01:05] nope, I think that's all === haggai [n=halls@i-83-67-59-194.freedom2surf.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:06] allee: I will maybe place a bounty on launchpad for this... [01:06] I could pay for a dev to find the bug ;) I want this app to rock hehe [01:07] it is by far te only really clean and easy wireless connection tool I found for kde [01:07] gobbe: aye, got any? [01:08] Riddell: isn't there a big problem with uploads ? [01:09] it is the third package that is uploaded but missing, concerning the packages I've done [01:11] Riddell: hum, if I update kdelibs, then I lose big bunch of -dev packages [01:11] known? [01:11] Tonio_: lemme have a look at the code first (don't hold your breath. digikam 0.8.1 has priority) [01:11] allee: ok ;) [01:16] Tm_T, got what? [01:16] any answers [01:16] aah, idler! [01:17] Tm_T, i'm quite hurry because f**n customers are calling and asking stupid questions ;) [01:17] gobbe: don't look at me like that ;-P [01:18] and I'm not asking anything stupid imo [01:18] hihi [01:20] Tonio_: none of the packages that I upload have problems, but then I upload with my own address in the changelog so I get the output [01:21] hmh, should I keep jabber audio support in kopete or just compile with unsermake [01:22] compiling speed vs one new function [01:22] install times: with unsermake ~10s and with make ~2min [01:23] why does jabber audio support not compile with unsermake? [01:23] Riddell: okay, I will prompt siretart and then if he doesn"t know email elmo [01:23] dunno yet, DarkShock has somewhere the error of it... [01:23] Tonio_: when you have time to make the Keep package, pokes me I have one or two thing to tell you [01:23] JRe: it is planed by the end of the afternoon ;) [01:24] Tonio_: ok, cool :) [01:24] ok, it's lost, I'll try to use unsermake myself to get error out [01:24] Riddell: do you think kde3.5 for breezy is perfectly fine to get people to use (for the forensics students) [01:26] sealne: yeah should be [01:26] i'd have thought so my self but wanted a second opinion :) [01:26] KDE 3.5 <3 [01:28] starting an install tat i wanted to time just before wanting to go to the gym was a bad idea [01:30] Riddell: have you tested kopete 0.12 branch? [01:31] if you like, I might make package of it, so people can test it (without quarantee ofcourse ;p) === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:54] my workpal is now installing kubuntu and updating to kde3.5 and he's quite big gentoo fan :D [01:55] :) [01:57] Riddell: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1477 [01:58] freeflying_: I don't suppose that fixes all the problems with chinese in KDE? [01:58] Riddell: that's just upstream release fix some bugs [01:59] yep [02:00] Riddell: have you triedd skim in dapper [02:01] s/triedd/tried [02:01] freeflying_: not really, I don't know how to use it [02:02] Riddell: I'm now rebuilding qt removing immodule patch [02:11] <\sh> Riddell: added 2 new searchproviders to kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts...lpbug: and lpproduct: [02:11] \sh: what are the existing shortcuts again? [02:11] ah, already uploaded [02:13] ubw should be uwiki in my opinion and should point to wiki.kubuntu.org, I'll change that in a bit === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:40] i got a question [02:40] is it just me [02:40] or is there no way to turn the clock into 12-hour mode [02:41] <\sh> of course ther eis [02:41] <\sh> right click on the clock [02:41] this is KDE [02:41] <\sh> then date & time format [02:41] <\sh> then click on time & dates tab [02:42] <\sh> and select the second entry in time format [02:42] <\sh> press apply and ok...and feel free to dance the am/pm dance [02:42] <\sh> and you have to restart the clock applet :) [02:43] jjesse: gobbe here says he'd love to help with Kubuntu docs [02:43] Lathiat: what's the status of avahi off by default? [02:44] \sh: oh [02:44] \sh: i see [02:44] thats totally unobvious [02:44] :) [02:44] <\sh> well..the time format is somehow localized setting...so it belongs to the locale settings in kde [02:45] Riddell: to be honest i havent really ever touched the avahi package [02:45] Lathiat: oh, why did I think you had then? [02:45] i work on avahi [02:45] just havent touched the debian package [02:47] Lathiat: ok, sorry for the hassle then :) [02:47] I see slomo in the changelog, I'll ask him [02:47] yeh slomo has done a fair bit [02:47] and ross [02:47] simple change none the less [02:47] could just not install avahi-daemon [02:47] which works fine === Lathiat shrugs [02:47] means its harder to get when you want it tho [02:47] that said just installing it means it wont work anymore [02:48] its a tradeoff really [02:50] how does not installing avahi-daemon work? [02:50] Riddell: libavahiclient doesnt depend on avahi-daemon [02:50] and apps will run without it running just the same as it being off by default [02:51] and if avahi starts theyll pick up and start using it (assumign its coded correctly) [02:51] but you need the daemon to advertise anything presumably? [02:51] Riddell: you need it for anything [02:51] to advertise or browse [02:52] there is an option to turn off advertising by default but that doesnt satisfy the whole no open port thing [02:52] so when you say not installing avahi-daemon works fine that's not really the case :) [02:52] Riddell: it works jsut as well as not starting it by default when installed ? [02:52] why doesn't it satisfy no open ports? [02:52] because avahi listens on a port [02:52] if its started [02:52] (the daemon) [02:53] and ubuntu policy is not to listen on any port in default config [02:53] yep [02:53] that said [02:53] the libc resolver listens on a port when in use [02:53] so you know :P) [02:53] -P [02:55] it's probably easier to code the kcontrol module to edit /etc/defaults/avahi-daemon than to install avahi-daemon is my thinking [02:55] well [02:55] yes [02:55] let me change the package now [02:55] will have to ask ross & slomo what they think [02:55] and it has the disadvantage of installing avahi-daemon meaning it doesnt work [02:57] can have a postinst saying "edit /etc/defaults/avahi-daemon to turn on" [02:57] or on boot like some other things do [02:57] rsync daemon ex [02:58] hrm [02:59] i dont know how to ask the rules file to install an extra file in /etc/defaults [02:59] CDBS styles? [02:59] edit the .install file [02:59] ah [02:59] and just add it [02:59] how do i specify the place to put it? [03:00] debian/avahi-daemon.defaults debian/avahi-daemon/etc/defaults/avahi-daemon [03:00] or something [03:00] yeh i think so [03:00] or just etc/ [03:00] maybe [03:00] hrm === Riddell goes for the most uploads of kdelibs in a day [03:01] freeflying_: scim 1.4.4 looks fine, uploading [03:02] Riddell: nice [03:24] <\sh> Riddell: swfdec 0.3.6 building [03:24] <\sh> and it has a lot of pointer to integer of different size warnings...shame on upstream === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JakubS [n=qba@azk210.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:31] Riddell: is libkdnssd-avahi folded into kdelibs4c2a package now? [03:32] <\sh> Riddell: uploaded [03:33] JakubS: yes [03:34] then kdnssd package should now have libkdnssd-avahi as dependence [03:34] s/now/not/ [03:34] JakubS: correct :) [03:34] but the new kdenetwork is waiting on the new kdelibs [03:37] <\sh> Riddell: brrr..why didn't you tell me that swfdec is main [03:38] umm, I didn't know, does it matter? [03:38] I just saw that a new version was out [03:38] <\sh> if it breaks yes :) [03:38] <\sh> I will be blamed :) but anyways...new versions are good :) [03:38] and it's fine to break universe of course :) [03:38] btw: i checked kwin4 and it can publish/find games on LAN no problems [03:39] <\sh> Riddell: yes, but not main :) [03:39] JakubS: ok, maybe I'm being silly, I'll try again once I've sorted out these KDE packages [03:41] and mateedit freezes completely when trying to create session, no idea why [03:43] Riddell: is http the only way to get kubuntu.org/packages/* ? [03:47] sealne: yes [03:47] how else would you like? [03:47] rsync? [03:48] <\sh> via apt? [03:48] <\sh> there is an apt-rsync? [03:48] \sh: apt talks http [03:48] nah to make a local mirror [03:48] <\sh> Riddell: that's what I know :) [03:48] and ofcourse ftp [03:48] <\sh> sealne: oh...wget in mirror mode? [03:49] which is nasty and leaves crap lying around [03:49] sealne: I don't really have any way of settings that up but most of the packages are also on ftp.kde.org which is mirrored on mirrorservice.org which does have rsync [03:49] k [03:49] but more delay that way [03:50] better than it used to be, i rember mirror had 2 year old versions of samba === freeflying_ sleeping time , night all [04:01] Riddell: that jingle&unsermake issue: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/502428 [04:02] Tm_T: it needs -I.. set or something [04:02] Tm_T: is the code in SVN? [04:03] yes [04:04] http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Kopete+Jabber+Jingle [04:04] Riddell: for the docs we should remove any reference to bugzilla but what is the best link to submit a kubuntu specific bug? [04:05] yes, good point. https://launchpad.net/malone [04:05] Riddell: do i need to reference a specific distro? like https://launchpad.net/malone/distro/XXXX or just use https://launchpad.net/malone/distro/ubuntu [04:06] where XXXX is kubuntu or is there not a distro for kubuntu? [04:06] kubuntu is the same as ubuntu as far as malone knows I think [04:08] when does flight3 come out? [04:10] jjesse: tomorrow possibly [04:11] Riddell: are the updated release notes going in there? is there any i need to update for flight3? [04:12] hmm, I should do a kubuntu-docs upload should I? [04:12] you could add that zeroconf support and CJK are in, although neither is really tested === hunger [n=hunger@p54A61938.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:18] Riddell: anything else that should be added to the release notes? [04:19] jjesse: I think that's all for now [04:46] hmm, that right-click menu on konqui searchbar has never worked I think [04:48] Is zeroconf enabled in kubuntu now? [04:48] hunger: I just uploaded kdebase and kdenetwork so cross your fingers that that'll compile OK and it will in a couple of hours [04:49] Riddell: Ah! I saw something about it when updating kdelibs and was wondering why konqui does not understand "zeroconf:/" [04:49] Riddell: Thanks for enlightening me once again. [04:50] hunger: yeah, you need kdnssd which isn't installable until the new kdenetwork is in [04:50] :) [04:50] Riddell: Will that be part of dapper's kubuntu install? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poimen [n=poimen@66.231.167.61] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:12] hello [05:12] :) === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:14] Riddell hello [05:16] hello poimen [05:16] Riddell : I got dapper flight installed and I did apt-get upgrade and downloaded 300mb of new sofware now I am doing the same :) [05:16] awooga [05:16] lol [05:16] today kubuntu is broken too? [05:17] nevermind I am just finishing this 20mb download to install all the software === poimen [n=poimen@66.231.167.61] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:34] hum. anoting bug in my machine in kde [05:35] what's that? [05:35] I get 8 monted icons of /dev/hdb drive in the desktop lol and I dont even have a cd in the drive [05:35] also I get a /dev/hda icon showing it mounted [05:35] also I dont have any cd in the drive [05:36] let see if I can delet them via konsole because I cant with the gui [05:36] nope I cant [05:39] kde mount it like this media:/hdb7 media:/hdb6 media:/hdb5 etc... when I put a cd in I click on any icon and I get to the same files [05:39] strange thing [05:41] lol and If I want to eject a cd a I have to give the eject comand to all the 8 icons [05:41] lol === je4d_ [n=jeff@demantoid.trinhall.cam.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=JRe@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:25] Riddell: sorry [06:25] nlindblad: hmm? [06:26] marked it invalid [06:26] nlindblad: oh that's fine, nobody harmed [06:28] <\sh> so...psi-0.10 is just finished to be ready for the archives [06:30] <\sh> Riddell: do we get kde-3.5.1 before the 19th? [06:31] <\sh> January 20th, 2006: Tagging KDE 3.5.1 [06:32] <\sh> well..I think we can get it in [06:33] :) [06:41] nlindblad: don't be put off :) === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D3CEB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:42] Riddell: I won't [06:43] Riddell: [posted on #kubuntu] i don't know if it's too late for drapper but please consider using showimg instead of gwenview, it's really has nice features see http://www.jalix.org/projects/showimg/ [06:43] gwenview just works [06:44] showimg doesn't even compile [06:44] hehe [06:44] Riddell: there's a new version out today [06:45] bobesponja: oh cool, are you able to see if it compiles with dapper? [06:46] Riddell: sure, it does on my sid, i'll tell you about drapper [06:46] I'm gonna try now [06:47] showimg does look pretty sweet. looks like my gimv would look if it were pretty. [06:48] trappist: it is really sweet [06:48] :) [06:49] it can also use kipi plugins === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:49] but I think gwenview too === je4d [n=jeff@demantoid.trinhall.cam.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === poimen [n=poimen@66.231.167.61] has joined #kubuntu-devel === je4d [n=jeff@kde/developer/je4d] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JakubS_ [n=qba@azk210.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:00] bobesponja: yes, showimg, gwenview and digikam, kimdaba use kipi-plugins === bobesponja [i=pat@bas75-1-81-57-4-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee wonders why the hell they choose not put the location field next to the directory tree view. The on always feels lost in the little treeview === uniq [n=frode@213.184.199.55] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:34] <\sh> wow...jim is thinking about applying a 2004 patch towards pykde...because I discussed again to loud [08:34] go \sh :) [08:35] <\sh> well...I mentioned that kubuntu is shipping pykde in their main repositories and even the great kubuntu leader is coding with pykde :) [08:35] <\sh> great kubuntu leader != sabdfl [08:36] hmm? who's that then? [08:37] <\sh> who else then you :) [08:37] oh, him :) [08:38] yeah, pykde rocks [08:38] yeah, he is king [08:38] ...you mean me?! :O [08:38] kubuntu dedication to pykde -- perfect, my plan to convert my brother is developing. [08:38] <\sh> hmm...what about starting a discussion on kde-devel with the topic "kde development cycle should match kubuntus release cycle"...and as argument "if you don't follow our rules, we will switch to gnome" [08:38] <\sh> hehehe [08:39] \sh: yeah! [08:39] <\sh> dum dum de dum kubuntu de dum dum kubuntu :) [08:40] a kubuntu theme tune; perfect. [08:40] \sh: whoooops [08:40] <\sh> apokryphos: actually it's the ubuntu thought crime song :) [08:41] ok, back to the piano/drums to develop a unique kubuntu one then [08:41] \sh: well, response was mostly just "lol"... people doesn't takee us seriously, how's your gnome installing is going on? [08:41] -e [08:41] I'm about to finish it [08:42] <\sh> Tm_T: hehe :) [08:42] hey, don't laugh! gnome isn't fun [08:42] <\sh> Tm_T: I have all three desktop environments on my laptop..so I can switch quite easily [08:42] three? [08:42] <\sh> gnome, kde, xfce [08:43] yeah, but now you can't use kde anymore, it was your idea! [08:43] <\sh> Tm_T: actually I know this would never happen in the near future..:) [08:44] haha [08:44] damn, why I'm using gnome then? I'm switching back [08:44] <\sh> Riddell: you don't know anything about xubuntu? :) [08:45] \sh: only that they stole ivman off us [08:45] I don't know their status though [08:45] xubuntu is quite good, I installed it to my older sister's laptop [08:46] <\sh> I'm waiting now for suns project named cubuntu ubuntu with cde [08:46] yuck [08:47] noooo [08:47] wubuntu, ubuntu with WindowMaker <3 [08:47] <\sh> well, to be honest, on a sun blade 1000 cde was much more usable then kde 2.x or gnome 1 [08:47] wubuntu sounds funny :p === nlindblad hugs Kubuntu [08:48] me too? [08:48] sure === nlindblad hugs Tm_T [08:49] get away from me you pervert! [08:49] <\sh> hmmm..utnubu.com is registered by canonical...why not kutnubu? [08:49] \sh: =) [08:49] nubu aka noob [08:49] nlindblad: ;) === Tm_T hugs back nlindblad [08:50] Tm_T: no gay feelings now [08:50] cause you ain't gonna get any back :D [08:50] gay? you swedish are all blond and thinking gay... [08:51] yuk! [08:51] ;) [08:52] nlindblad: btw you don't even know my sex so how you can blame me gayish [08:52] true [08:52] ;) [08:52] do you know mine? [08:53] (and thats why I wonder how the hell you could know that I'm gay) [08:53] whoops [08:53] :D [08:53] ok, that wasn't funny written... I need coffee -> [08:54] Tm_T: you're gay? [08:54] you'd never get away with this sort of conversation in #ubuntu-devel [08:54] <\sh> nlindblad: who is not gay? :) [08:55] Riddell: shouldn't _all_ feature requests go through launchpad? [08:56] nlindblad: major feature requests should be a spec on launchpad, packages for inclusion to MOTU, other stuff can be wishlist beastie items [08:57] I see [08:57] so thunderbird being compiled with other options shouldn't go to launchpad but stay in bugzilla? [08:58] yes, that's a wishlist beastie [08:58] right [08:58] damn, got it wrong twice today [08:59] nlindblad: nope, but I do have twisted sense humour [08:59] +of [08:59] Tm_T: okey, good to know [08:59] so don't try me ;) [08:59] motu meeting on #ubuntu-meeting [09:00] <\sh> nlindblad: until tomorrow :) [09:00] motu? [09:00] <\sh> yes [09:00] means? [09:01] masters of the universe [09:01] okey [09:01] nlindblad: the community that looks after all the universe packages [09:01] err, how that sounds he-man -like [09:01] Tm_T: I think that's the idea :) [09:01] aye [09:01] I think too [09:02] but... nevermind, you haven't seen it [09:06] maybe I'm to dumb to handle bug reports [09:09] nlindblad: why? you do good [09:10] hmm, maybe I'll get more experienced in time [09:10] s/in time/the more time I spend/ [09:11] yes, do lots more! [09:19] hehe [09:19] work harder! *whip* [09:24] Tm_T: okey, will do [09:24] a little tired this evening [09:24] got home an hour later than usually [09:25] because when I came to the bus terminal the bus that I should switch to wasn't there [09:25] it had engine problems === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D3CEB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:28] I pushde 15min big van from icy parking lot [09:28] it was +1 when it was parked, -1 when it was supposed to move [09:29] glad I'm big and strong [09:29] like 53kg ;) [09:29] anyway gone -> === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:47] Riddell: zeroconf seams to work for me... nothing to see since this is the only box on my lan, but konqui displays an empty page when doing zeroconf:/ now. [10:47] hunger: use kpf to publish something and it should show up [10:48] Riddell: Aehmmm... how? [10:49] hunger: add public fileshare applet to kicker === hunger has kpf installed, but running kpf gives a command not found. [10:50] it's a kicker applet [10:50] It is listed... but when I try to access the server my panel crashes. [10:51] So zeroconf seems to work... but kpf doesen't:-( [10:55] hum, that's not good [10:57] kpf doesn't have an executable [10:57] Riddell: What I find way more annoying is that ksysguard does not do cpufreq info anymor. [10:58] Riddell: It gives the max frequency all the time! scaling_cur_freq is definitly lower. [11:03] Riddell: Hmmm... ksysguardd is rather oldish... doesen't use /sys but some file in proc. I think that just does not contain the necessary info anymore:-( [11:13] I'm trying to compile showimg but I get an error about libXft.la, it doesn't exists [11:14] and grep libXft.la /usr/lib/*.la return many files [11:14] but i installed all the dev libs and it's still not there [11:14] anybody know what's the problem? [11:15] bobesponja: yep the .la files was in breezy but is now no longer in dapper [11:15] is your system updated from breezy to dapper? [11:15] bobesponja: use a dapper chroot [11:15] or use dapper [11:15] Riddell: I use a drapper [11:15] Riddell: I installed from the iso [11:15] the drapper iso [11:16] Dapper Drake Flight 2 [11:16] grep libXft.la /usr/lib/*la [11:17] Riddell: Bah, ksysguard is seriously rotten! It does not even know /sys yet! [11:17] Riddell: yep, that's what I did and it looks like many kde app still depends on it [11:18] in drapper [11:18] very few here [11:18] use a chroot then [11:19] Riddell: chroot into what? [11:19] your chroot :) [11:19] see DebootstrapChroot [11:19] bobesponja: for all makefiles: grep LIB_ Makefile.am | grep lXft [11:20] allee: nothing [11:21] bobesponja: if you find noting then one of the build deps brings it in: Not sure how to fix it then [11:21] ah, grep for _LIB too ;) [11:24] allee: still nothing [11:24] wait [11:25] longest MOTU meeting ever... [11:25] nope still nothing [11:26] Riddell: no kidding. I have to duck out for yet another meeting. [11:27] bobesponja: sorry I ran out of idea. what showimg version are you trying to build? [11:27] 0.95 [11:27] where can I download tar + diff? [11:27] I need to try the debootstrap I guess [11:28] allee: http://www.jalix.org/projects/showimg/download/0.9.5/showimg-0.9.5.tar.bz2 [11:30] allee: tell me if you succeed :) [11:32] bobesponja: me awaits 3 hours highway now. I will have a look tomorrow. Just wanted to make sure it's that I have it on my disk before I leave. [11:33] allee: ok [11:34] allee: I'll bug you tomorrow then to know how it turned out :) [11:34] bobesponja: mhmm I've to write 2 emails can't hurt to run debuild right now ... [11:34] allee: sure === hunger just reported the broken ksysguard as malone #6724. [11:35] If only malone wouldn't be so confusing! [11:37] ... and I assigned it to kubuntu team as well. I hope that is the proper team for this. [11:38] Good night! [11:47] bobesponja: builds fine here: -rw-r--r-- 1 ach ach 3582880 2006-01-12 23:41 ../../showimg_0.9.5-0ubuntu1_i386.deb [11:48] bobesponja: I've also dapper from flight2. Strange that I did not run into the same problem [11:49] allee: do you use universe? [11:49] allee: maybe that messes it up [11:49] they, main restricted universe and multiverse [11:50] allee: well thanx, you can tell Riddell about it because he told me he would give it a try as a gwenview replacement if it compiles [11:52] allee: can you give me the command line to build the dep, i'd like to try [11:52] to build the deb [11:52] digikam 0.8.1 rc1 debs for brezzy and dapper please test: http://rafb.net/paste/results/6QgnvR32.html [11:52] breezy deb is just a pbuild. so may not run at all. Not tested. have to go now [11:53] bobesponja: unpacked 0.9.5 added 0.9.4.1 diff.gz debian dir and run : debuild [11:53] bobesponja: no big magic ;) [11:53] :) [11:53] thx [11:54] bye [11:54] good night