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nekobimberi: i'll see if I can. the affected machine's screwing up royally atm12:03
bimberineko: ok.  btw sorry i wasn't very clear before - you need the main repository - but not just the one on the CD12:04
nekobimberi: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ ?12:06
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_joe_just installed kubuntu ( i use ubuntu); how do i set kubuntu up to look/feel like a mac?12:07
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Psi-JackOkay. NOW I'm truely impressed. Being able to adjust network settings from within KDE's System Settings, is a major cool thing. :)12:08
nekobimberi: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/50166512:11
_joe_i remember that there was a wizard that lets youset up kde preferences to be like windows/mac/w/e ,, where is it?12:12
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bimberineko: that looks fine - not sure what the issue is - have you updated recently? does "apt-cache policy gdb" show anything meaningful?12:17
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nekobimberi: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/50167912:19
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bimberineko: sudo aptitude update12:20
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nekobimberi: found it now thanks12:25
bimberineko: yw :)12:26
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Psi-JackWell, that sucked.. In Kopete, under Devices. Trying to set it up to use my M-318B webcam, instead of my Pinnacle PCTV Rave, it just plain locked up my computer.12:27
Psi-JackWell, here goes, a second attempt...12:29
ckueasiest way to install ardour...help. por favor?12:31
ckuanyone....1st bidder would be nice12:32
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theineHi, what can I do against kmix showing its main window when I log in?12:32
ninnghizidhahow can i recolor the ugly yellow tooltips?12:33
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Psi-JackAnd it did it again. :(12:34
Psi-JackI have an spca50x-based webcam.. Does anyone know how to get those to work?12:35
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: that's because the spca5xx driver ubuntu ships with is broken12:35
Psi-JackAha!12:35
Psi-JackHow do I fix it?12:35
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: i can send you a version that i've compiled myself12:35
Psi-JackSure.. I'll try it. Why not, eh? :)12:36
arrinmurr...if you have upgraded your system so you have the same kernel version i do12:36
Psi-JackWell, I've did a full upgrade since 5.10's stock install, but the -10 revision kernel didn't work in grub.. It couldn't find the root filesystem..12:36
arrinmurrhmm.. maybe it wouldn't work for you then12:37
Psi-JackHeh. I'm running 2.6.12-912:37
starI am new and want to play videios are there any players like win media12:38
Psi-Jackstar: Ironically, there's several media players for Linux.12:38
starother then real player12:38
Psi-JackKDE has Kaffeine12:38
ckumplayer's the best I've seen so far12:38
Psi-JackAnd there's mplayer12:38
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: So, basically, you'd suggesting I need to manually upgrade my kernel?12:39
starI am have trouble playing Kaffeine12:39
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: well, i could send you the file to try anyway. i guess it wouldn't do any worse harm than the one you have now.12:39
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: Heh yeah, really. Is it a kernel module or something?12:40
Blippeand if you wanna try something that WILL crash, try out noatun!12:40
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: no, i'm just saying that the driver i've compiled with the -10 kernel possibly wouldn't work for you12:40
starI got mplayer to but it dosent seem to want to play videio12:40
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: Did you compile with module versioning?12:40
Blippestar, i myself like vlc12:41
starhow do I get vlc12:41
_joe_i remember that there was a wizard that lets youset up kde preferences to be like windows/mac/w/e ,, where is it?12:41
Psi-JackAnd how do I get Kopete to not require me to enter my "Wallet" password?12:41
staris that through adept12:42
Blippestar in adept or synaptic or whatever you use...12:42
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: i followed this howto http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7528412:42
starthank you I will try that12:43
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: That'll work.12:43
Blippestar look at restrictedformats12:43
Blippe!restrictedformats12:43
ubotuit has been said that restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats12:43
Blippestar, it might be because you don't have a codec you're having problems12:44
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starhow do I install codec12:45
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Psi-Jackarrinmurr: Yeah, definately good looking stuff.. I'll follow this. Thanks for the tip.12:45
Blippestar it is all in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:45
Psi-JackNow, lets see if it works. :12:47
nekosince a panel crash, artsd keeps crashing when I start kde (http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/501711 for backtrace). any ideas?12:47
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globehow do I make gnome my default window manager after installing KDE?12:49
Blippestar, you stille here, there is more kubuntu material in https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats12:50
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Psi-JackObviously, that didn't work. :/12:50
Blippeglobe, you might wanna change from kdm to gdm too, and then it will all solve itself :D12:51
globeBlippe: ?12:51
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/usb/media/ is there a spca50x.so or something? older version of that howto included a command to remove it12:51
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Blippekdm and gdm are the loginmanagers.12:52
globeBlippe: okay.  Where do I change that?12:52
Psi-JackYeah, I followed everthing to the T.12:52
Blippewhen you installed kde it asked which one you wanted to use...12:52
globeright.  I said KDE.  there has to be a way to change it back12:53
Blippethere is two ways to fix 'em back12:53
BlippekdM12:53
Blippeone find that commando and execute it12:54
Psi-JackThere is no spca50x.ko, just spca5xx.ko12:54
Blippethe other is to "uninstall" gdm and then install it again, it will ask you the same question again!12:54
Psi-JackWell, I'll try it again...12:55
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: ah, ok. hm. and it really is the newly compiled one? strange..12:55
globeBlippe: I am sorry, but I am not getting any of this.12:55
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: Pretty sure, yes.12:55
Psi-JackWhat else, other than Kopete, can I use to test it?12:55
Blippewait I will find the command..12:55
globeokay.12:56
globethanks12:56
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arrinmurrPsi-Jack: VLC, camorama, motion (http://motion.sourceforge.net/)12:56
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: and gnomemeeting12:57
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Psi-JackVLC eh? I'll try that. :)12:58
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: yeah, just open capture device -> /dev/video012:59
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Blippeglobe open a terminal and write "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" without the "'s12:59
Blippehit enter and type your password...12:59
globeooh....that sounds right01:00
Blippedid it work?01:01
BlippeI take that as a yes then?01:02
Blippe!01:03
ubotuBlippe: Bugger all, i dunno01:03
globeBlippe ... do you know where the script that I can kill the X with the term? .... its something like /etc/xorg stop or somethin01:05
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globeThe command did do what I wanted, but I have to kill X for it to take effect01:05
Blippeno... I just know the killall Xorg version...01:05
BlippeI don't know just how good it is to do that...01:06
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globeum. I am going to restart my computer.01:06
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Psi-Jack_v2Okay, first things first. Why isn't -10 able to mount my root filesystem? I'm using XFS, and it works excelently with -901:07
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Psi-JackMy /boot partition, where grub is, is ext3, but / is XFS.01:08
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GameOverHey everyone.... i have a problem with firefox.... i uninstalled mplayer, and vlc player... yet it still shows them int he about:plugins... how do i take them out?01:09
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globethanks....than worked.01:10
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globenow if I could just get my screen res > 800x60001:11
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Blippe/etc/X11/Xorg.conf01:12
Blippebut I'm going to bed... :P01:12
globeBlippe : I wish.  its a driver problem.01:12
globethanks for all your help01:12
BlippeIc01:12
computinchuckcan amarok read mp4/aac tags?01:12
GameOvercan anyone help with firefox?01:12
computinchuckrather, id3v2 tags embedded in mp4/aac files01:13
globeGameOver just go ahead and ask the question about your problem....if somebody knows, they'll answer ;-)01:13
GameOveri uninstalled mplayer, and vlc player01:14
GameOveryet in the about:plugins, its still shows01:14
GameOverhow do i get it out01:14
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Psi-JackCrap.01:21
Psi-JackApparently 14mb just isn't enough anymore for /boot01:21
Psi-JackNot even two kernels can fully fit in that space anymore. heh01:21
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advershello01:22
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adverscan someone help me01:22
globeadvers:01:22
adversok01:22
globeadvers: post the question to the room....if somebody knows, they will do their best01:23
adverswhen I try to write smb.conf it will not let me, says I do not have write access, kate has a terminal built into it so I logged in to root from that and still, no change, can someone help me get it to work?01:24
adversRight now I am trying to setup Samba01:24
globeadvers: are you on kubuntu?01:25
adversyes01:25
ckuanyone knows how to run wine?01:25
Psi-JackWelp.01:25
Psi-JackI gotta go RE install Kubuntu. heh01:25
globeadvers: sudo your write01:25
arrinmurrcku: wine application.exe01:25
Psi-JackI didn't make any room to spare for /boot. heh01:25
globeadvers: how are you editing smb.conf?01:25
adverswith Kate01:26
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adversBUT01:26
adversi tried to open it in terminal01:26
adverswith nano01:26
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adverswhy is it such a hassle to clear out the text01:26
adversusing nano01:26
adversi didnt know how to type in new text either01:26
adversId rather just use kate somehow01:27
adversor osmething like it01:27
adversnot through terminal01:27
globeI dont know Kate...just VI.01:27
adversok01:27
adversI'll use that01:27
adverswhat is VI hehe01:27
globevi is a text editor...been around for years.  Its one of those thnigs thats a pain in the rear if you dont know what your doing.01:28
globecan you launch Kate from a term window?01:28
adversyes i think so01:28
charwoodglobe: Kate is very simple.  Like notepad but with syn highlighting.01:28
charwoodglobe: I'm pretty sure that it is simply kwrite + a couple file management features.01:29
adversi type in kate in terminal01:29
adversit says01:29
charwoodadvers: Don't use vi unless you are willing to put a lot of time into learning it.01:29
globeadvers: add 'sudo' to the start of the term cmd to launch kate01:29
adversi would rahter not, because im just wanting to setup samba atm01:29
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adversso type sudo kate?01:30
arrinmurrglobe: no, kdesu01:30
charwoodadvers: Hmmm...  there is no reason you should have to be root to run kate.  Try kwrite.01:30
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globesorry...I have never herd of Kate....01:30
adverssays01:30
adverscannot connect to X server01:30
charwoodadvers:  Ah.  You're in a terminal?01:30
adverslol yea01:31
adversim sort've new to linux01:31
charwoodadvers: Sorry.  I missed the first part of the conversation.01:31
globeI didnt get that either01:31
adversoh hehe01:31
adversOHH01:31
charwoodadvers: Kate also requires an X session (can't be run in a terminal)01:31
adversim supposed to type this in commnad line01:31
globecharwood: is emacs easy enough?01:31
globecharwood: I have never used it01:31
adversX as in the GUI?01:31
globeadvers: yep01:32
GameOveranyone know how to change the default media players.. or disable/enable them in firefox?01:32
Psi-JackWelp, I'll be back next install. heh01:32
adversim in KDE right now01:32
adversim not doing terminal, i was using the terminal program01:32
adversmy bad01:32
adversit opened Kwrite up01:32
adversbut01:32
adverslets start from scratch!01:32
adversDO i need to type sudo first01:32
charwoodadvers: good idea.01:32
globeGameOver: you might try right clicking on the file and selecting ... "open with"01:33
charwoodadvers: you need to type sudo first if you need to run the process as root.01:33
arrinmurradvers: don't run kwrite with sudo. use kdesu01:33
GameOverglobe: no i mean for streaming media01:33
adversok i clicked on01:33
charwoodadvers: If you are editing a system file then you will need to run as root.01:33
adversok well how do i run as root01:33
globeGameOver: yea, you will need to set the program for the playlist01:33
adversI have no root account01:34
GameOverglobe: u can change it in firefox somehow but i cant remember how  to access it....01:34
ckuok01:34
globeadvers: thats what sudo does... it gives you "root" permissions01:34
GameOverglobe: when i go into about;plugins... even though i uninstalled it.. mpalyer is still default01:34
ckuanother question, how to install ardour?01:34
charwoodadvers: sudo and kdesu are ways of telling linux that for just that command you want to pretend to be root.01:34
globeGameOver: whenh you click on the link for a stream, it should prompt you what to do with it01:35
advershey char check pm01:35
adversthis is too confusing in here01:35
globelol01:35
charwoodSo for instance, if I want to open up a system file like xorg.conf to write to it, I need to be root, but instead of logging on as root, I can simply type "sudo kwrite xorg.conf"01:35
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adverswhere do you type that01:36
adversin terminal?01:36
globeadvers: :-)01:36
adverslol01:36
adversim trying!01:36
adversim in Information Assurance and Security bachelors program01:36
adversi must learn Linux01:36
globeadvers: thats right....type that in the term01:36
GameOverglobe: thats if u were able to download it, or open it with the program... i want to open it within firefox01:36
globeGameOver: oooohhh.  I didnt know you could do that.01:37
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GameOverglobe... it hink if oudn the problem.. the plugin is still in the plugins folder.... even theough the program is unistalled01:37
GameOverbut its only read only01:37
globeadvers: did that bring up an editor?01:37
GameOverhow can i change it01:37
GameOverso i can delete it01:37
GameOverkeeps telling me access denied01:38
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adverswow01:38
adversI love you01:38
adversI LOVE YOU GUYS01:38
adversthanks01:38
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globeGameOver: use sudo01:38
adversnow im trying to setup SAMBA01:38
globeadvers: yoru welcome01:38
adverssooo01:38
adverscan i ask more quesitons if i get stumped?01:38
globeadvers: always....01:38
adversdo you suggest using samba01:38
adversfor network sharing01:38
adversetc01:38
adversi want to access my windows shares01:38
GameOverglobe?01:39
globeadvers: afik you will have to01:39
ckuyes I insist on samba01:39
ckuworks perfectly for the 4 pcs I have here01:39
adversok01:39
adverscku would you mind helping me set this up01:39
globeGameOver: in a terminal window open the plugin folder and use 'sudo rm' instead of 'rm'01:39
cku2 windows xp and one 2k01:39
GameOverglobe: u cant do it graphically01:39
arrinmurradvers: if you only want to _access_ your windows shares, but not share anything yourself, type smb:/ in konqueror01:39
adversi want to share both ways01:40
advershehe01:40
advershey cku01:40
globeGameOver: I am sure there is a way,01:40
adversu there01:40
GameOverglobe: but u dont know it do u :)01:40
globeadvers: samba is the way to go to share both ways01:40
globeGameOver: 1 sec01:40
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GameOverglobe: ok01:41
advershey globe im going to pm you01:41
globeadvers: ok01:42
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globeGameOver: Honestly I cant find anything.  You can search on the wiki, but I didnt see anything.01:46
ckusorry01:46
ckumy bad01:46
adversok01:47
adverscku01:47
adversyou there?01:47
ckuyea01:47
adverscan you help me in pm01:47
ckuur in kde correct?01:47
GameOverglobe: its ok thanks though... i did it all by hand lol01:47
adversyes01:47
globeGameOver: nice.01:47
ckuok01:48
ckuit's within netwrok settings01:48
ckuthe 1st thing after installing samba is creating a shared folder01:48
adverswhere do i put the shared folder01:48
adversWhen i try to access my windows computers01:48
adversit sees mshome01:48
ckuu can create one in ur home folder01:48
ckuoh01:48
adversbut it wont let me browse it01:48
adversi get an error01:49
globeadvers: good luck01:49
adversty01:49
ckuto access ur windows folders01:49
globeI'm out for dinner01:49
adversthansk for help cya later01:49
ckuu do the same thing when ur in windows01:49
eitani'm having trouble putting songs from a cd onto an ipod nano using konqueror. the cd part works fine, i really like how you can just go to the "mp3" folder to drag and drop. but i'm not sure where to drop. the ipod connects to media:/sdb2 and there's a folder with the music in media:/sdb2/iPod_Control/Music but simply dropping it there doesn't seem to work. any ideas?01:49
adversyou guys are much nicers than the #linux people on gamesurge01:49
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adversI do what?01:49
cku\\pcname\01:49
adversi tried that01:49
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ckudidn't work?01:49
advershold on01:49
adverscan u talk to me in pm please01:49
adversall this text distracts me01:49
GameOverglobe: do u know how to replace the graphics for the login screen... i downloaded somethin new and no clue where to put it01:49
adverscku01:50
adverswhat exactly do i type01:51
adversfor01:51
advers\\pcname\ etc01:51
adversi tried this though01:51
adversi mean01:51
adversi put the name of my pc01:51
adverswhen i get into network folder information01:53
adversWhat do i put for name, server, and folder01:53
adversi thought server would be01:53
adversmy comptuer name01:53
ckudo u have a server?01:54
adversno01:54
adversthis is for adding a folder01:54
adversnetwork folder01:54
adversi selected01:54
adverswindows drive01:55
adversim in the network folder wizard01:55
adversI clicked01:55
adversAdd network folder01:55
adversthen it wants the type of folder to connect to01:55
adversi selected Micrsoft Windows network drive01:55
adversthen it asks for01:55
adversName01:55
adversServer01:55
adversFolder01:55
adverswhat do i put in there01:56
adversi tried alot01:56
ckuone min01:56
adversk01:56
adversif there is an easier way01:56
adversplease let m eknoe01:56
adversALL i wantt o do is create a shared folder01:56
adversand to view my shared folders from the network01:56
adversthats my goal01:56
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ckuok01:57
ckucan u open the shared folders application?01:58
adversalso it looks like01:58
adversi cant edit it01:58
adverseven when i click omn adminstrator mode01:58
adversit still is grayed out01:58
ckuok01:58
ckuadd a shared folder01:58
sampanadvers is this a fresh (no updates) breezy install?01:58
adversnegative01:58
adversi used automatix01:58
adversand got a BUNCH of stuff01:58
adverstechnically i dont know if i did any updates though01:59
sampanthat's not "updates" -- have you updated?01:59
adversit is brand new01:59
adversNo i do not think so sampan01:59
adversthis is fresh01:59
adverscku i cant add a shared folder01:59
sampanadvers, then likely you have the "admin mode bug".  breezy's release had a bug with it -- it was fixed a week after release01:59
adverswhen i select sharing01:59
adversoh01:59
advershow do i fix it?02:00
sampanadvers  if you update (using adept-updater), it should be corrected02:00
adversok02:00
adversone sec02:00
sampan(assuming you have the repositories enabled)02:00
adverswhat is that?02:00
sampanrepositories are where kubuntu downloads packages (software) and updates from.02:01
sampan!repositories02:01
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource02:01
adversi clicked on adept updater02:01
adversthen02:01
adversi clicked fetch updtes02:01
adverscan i install and upgrade all of this02:01
adversis it safe?02:01
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sampanit -should- be safe.  but if you don't want to do it all, look for the ones that are "kde-...." (like kde-base etc.)  or "kubuntu..."02:02
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adverslet me read the packages to you02:03
adverscan i pm you sampan02:03
adversthe other 2 people i pmed didnt respond lol02:03
sampanadvers, better to use the pastebin02:03
sampan!pastebin02:03
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:03
sampanoh and the reason they didn't respond is because they didn't get your msgs -- on freenode you have to be registered in order to send pms02:04
adverssapamn02:04
adverswow02:04
adverslol02:04
sampan:D02:04
advershow do i register02:04
adversnm02:04
adversdont explain02:04
sampaniirc /msg nickserv register ... or /msg nickserv help register02:04
adversok02:05
adversi pmed you02:05
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CampaneAMortoNotte...02:46
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indokubuntu 5.10 fresh install won't let me activate admistrator mode in the system control panel - anyone know what might be going on?02:49
indosudo works fine02:49
sampanindo, yes -- it was a known bug and it was fixed in updates about a week after release02:50
sampanif you update your system it'll be fixed02:50
sampanlots of people ran into it (including myself)02:50
indoonly way I can do that is through ndiswrapper - which i need to have administrator access, anyway to download just the patched files?02:51
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sampanindo, ahhhh, i know others have had that same problem, and iirc there is a way to get wireless working from cli so you can update, but i know nothing about wireless.  packages can be searched and downloaded at: http://packages.ubuntu.com/  but i'm not sure which ones specifically were the fixes02:53
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_adminsampan: I was in here yesterday asking for help with 3dfx. The forums told to install libglide3 in which I did from package manager then run "ldconfig" which gives me an error "ldconfig: Can't create temporary cache file /etc/ld.so.cache~: Permission denied". Can you help?02:55
indothank you sampan, i know what to look for now, keep up the good work02:55
sampanindo, yw -- good luck!02:55
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sampanadmin, does ldconfig need to be run as root (i.e., with sudo)?  sounds like a simple permission error02:56
_adminsampan: I ran it with sudo in front of it I type my Passwd and it quicly return to prompt02:57
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sampan_admin, hrmmm -- then i dunno; maybe the script is written poorly?  forums don't mention this problem, i suppose?02:58
kkathmanhowdy sampan :)02:58
sampanhey kkathman :)02:58
sampanhelp -- i'm in over my head!! ;X02:59
kkathmanwassup?02:59
sampanlol -- i'm kidding -- just not sure how to help _admin with his 3d card ... but the fact that i'm lost hardly says anything (blind leading the blind???)02:59
kkathman3d card?03:00
kkathmanohhh like graphics stuff eh?03:00
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kkathman_admin:  see if this helps you a bit:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7539303:01
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sampankkathman  got another one -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6979  ... is this guy's sources.list okay?  i suspect he's suffering from the admin mode bug too, but he can't seem to get any updates (via adept-updater or apt-get) and i'm stumped03:02
sampani made a couple changes to it ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6980 ) but he still can't seem to get any updates -- and i'm lost03:04
ubuntucheckin out flight 203:04
ubuntupretty cool so far03:04
ubuntuwhere do i go to turn of sudo for my user?03:04
_adminkkathman: I have a 3dfx voodoo 4500 card. Do you have any other suggestions?03:04
kkathmansampan: the sources look ok, except there are alot of non-supported ones, and of course you run the risk of installing something that is of a higher, but untested version03:04
sampan*nod* yeah i noticed that too -- and he said he used automatix (another iffy thing as i found out couple months ago).  -- so i'm stumped; unless he's updated and it's a completely diff problem03:05
bimberiubuntu: you need at least one user to have sudo (unless you've enabled root)03:05
ubuntui have enabled root03:06
ubuntuthank you for trying to look out for me tho...03:06
mistik1Is there a way I can tell the package management system to ignore looking at the deps for one package03:06
kkathman_admin: looks like there isnt much on the forums, but what there is, seems negative I am sorry to report03:06
ubuntubimberi: but where do i turn off sudo for my user03:06
bimberiubuntu: hehe, np - removing yourself from the admin group will disable sudo access03:06
ubuntuok... cool03:06
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_adminkkathman: That is what I gathered too. Thanks for your & sampan's help.03:08
adverscan someone here help me with getting my samba to work03:09
adverswhen i try to change sharing03:09
adversits grayed out even when i login03:09
ubuntubimberi: command to do that is.?03:09
adversand I have everything updated i believe03:09
manverusorry guys, but what was the command for displaying disk-space?03:11
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ubuntumanveru: df03:12
bimberiubuntu: you could edit /etc/group (i'm looking for a command method though)03:12
manveruah, thx :)03:12
ubuntunp03:12
ubuntuand df -h03:12
ubuntufor human readable03:12
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bimberiubuntu: deluser <user> admin03:13
ubuntuok... that works03:14
ubuntuthanks03:14
bimberiyw :)03:14
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computinchuckhow do i customize the init scripts without manually deleting links or making files nonexecutable?03:14
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ubuntubeautiful bimberi ... gotta love the security03:15
ubuntuappreciate your help... gotta go eat... peace out all03:15
bimbericomputinchuck: using update-rc.d (check its man page)03:15
computinchuckok03:15
bimbericomputinchuck: note that it does its work by creating/deleting links :)03:17
computinchuckbimberi: yea, but i was hoping for a bit more organized approach, i don't really know my way around system V init style (i ran slackware up until very recently)03:17
computinchucki didn't want to go deleting files03:18
bimbericomputinchuck: there is a program called, ahem, "bum"03:18
bimberi!bum03:18
ubotuit has been said that bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html03:18
bimberi(it's in universe)03:19
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computinchuckbimberi: alright, i'll take a look03:20
bimbericomputinchuck: it's a gnome app - not sure if the's a kde equivalent sorry03:20
bimberi*there's03:21
computinchuckbimberi: i noticed, i didn't see any kde equivalent03:23
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Psi-JackAhhh.. Sweet sweet stuff. :)03:26
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Psi-JackFor some reason, now my fonts aren't HUGE. heh03:27
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Psi-JackWelp, time to do a full upgrade. :)03:29
kieranhello03:29
kierananyone here have some time to help me?03:29
arrinmurrkieran: just ask your question03:30
kieranrightio, trying to upgrade KDE properly03:31
kierandownloaded using apt-get last night but i dont think it installed properly03:31
kieranin my repository the link for KDE is not working03:31
kieranit just hangs03:32
kierani know this because i added it and disabled every other link and tried apt-get03:32
kieranis there another repository link i can use?03:32
arrinmurrwhat are you using now then?03:33
kieranhttp03:33
kieranhttp://kubuntu.org/packages/kde3503:33
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kieranany ideas03:34
arrinmurrhmm.. if there really is something wrong with that, you could try using ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.5/kubuntu/ , don't know if it's exactly the same though, heard about it today03:35
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computinchuckbimberi: bum doesn't let you modify rcS.d files03:36
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computinchuckit tells me i need a "deep understanding of the run level system"03:37
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kieranis that how i should be executing the repository?03:42
kierani get malformed line03:42
indohow can you activate a wireless pci card with the terminal - iwconfig? I want kubuntu to use it as my connection, any ideas?03:42
arrinmurrkieran: err.. you should put it this way:03:42
kieranok03:42
kieranplease show me, i have no idea03:43
Psi-JackDoes anyone here know the Linux support for an ATI AiW Radeon 8500, for both DRI and TV support?03:43
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arrinmurrdeb ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.5/kubuntu/ breezy main03:44
arrinmurryou did have the other one that way too?03:44
Psi-JackHmm.03:44
arrinmurrdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-1.3.7 breezy main03:44
Psi-JackWell, THIS is annoying.03:44
arrinmurroh, i mean03:44
Psi-JackI upgraded my kernel, and now my TV doesn't work....03:44
arrinmurrdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main03:45
bimbericomputinchuck: ah ok :|03:46
kieranhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/698203:46
arrinmurrkieran: yeah? it goes fine now? then just do apt-get dist-upgrade03:46
kieranok03:46
kieranshould i do the apt-get dist-upgrade from out of KDE03:47
kieranin the failsafe?03:47
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arrinmurrkieran: well, i don't know if it matters much but i tend to shut down X when updating something like kde03:48
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kieranafter it's upgraded03:48
kieranor how do you shut down x?03:48
kierannot03:48
kierannow03:48
sebastianneed help03:48
DaSkreechDrat03:48
sebastiani just accidentally deleted my windows xp03:48
kierani dont mind using the console03:48
sebastianwith all its files03:48
DaSkreechI keep missing m0s00n03:48
sebastianas i was installing kubuntu03:48
sebastiani need to download mozilla firefox03:48
sebastianand gaim03:49
sebastianurgently03:49
sebastianbut i don-t know how to03:49
kieranhttp03:49
kieranhttp://getfirefox.com03:49
sebastiani clicked there03:49
sebastiani-m on kubuntu though03:49
sebastiani know i have to go to some DOS like program03:50
sebastianand type something03:50
kierankonquerer should open it up03:50
kierandownload the file03:50
DaSkreechHuh?03:50
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DaSkreechAdept them03:50
kieranand read the redame.txt03:50
sebastiandownload which file?03:50
sebastianhelp i have to be online03:50
arrinmurrkieran, well, just log off, go to ctrl+alt+f1, and as root write /etc/init.d/kdm stop (if kdm is what you're using) - do the dist-upgrade and write /etc/init.d/kdm start03:50
DaSkreechsebastian: What are you trying to do?03:51
sebastiandownload gaim03:51
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sebastianand firefox03:51
sebastianbut most importantly gaim03:51
DaSkreechsebastian: Open adept03:51
sebastianK menu?03:51
DaSkreechk -> System -> Adept03:51
sebastiandon-t have that program03:52
sebastiankonsole kynaptic03:52
sebastianksysguard03:52
DaSkreechahhhh03:52
DaSkreechWhat version of Kubuntu is this?>03:52
sebastiani got the cd a fewmonths ago03:52
sebastianaround 4 months go03:52
computinchuckbimberi: i taught myself the update-rc.d program to modify the rcS scripts03:52
bimbericomputinchuck: that's the way! :)03:53
computinchuckindeed :)03:53
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sebastianhelp03:54
DaSkreechsebastian: Ah ok Open Kynaptic03:55
sebastianok03:55
DaSkreechThough It's a terrible application03:55
sebastianit asks me for a password03:55
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DaSkreechI forget how it looks so forgive me if I ask for your help once it's open03:56
DaSkreechIt's asking for Your password03:56
DaSkreechassuming you logged into the system03:56
sebastianok i typed it03:56
sebastiannow the thign dissappeared03:56
DaSkreechsebastian: You should really get a new CD as an aside :)03:56
trucekillhey is there something wrong with th e universe and multiverse repositories?03:56
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sebastiani shoiuld really get windows xp too as i erased it accidentally03:57
DaSkreech*laughs*03:57
sebastianok its back03:57
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sebastianit has a refresh button on the top03:57
DaSkreechIf you have some time to spend I can show you how to upgrade but lets do gaim first03:57
sebastianand a list of03:57
DaSkreechNope leave that alone :)03:57
sebastianand a wee box03:57
sebastianopened03:57
computinchuckis there a list of what all the kernel modules are somewhere?03:57
sebastianlike it had stuff inside03:57
DaSkreechis there a search or a find ?03:57
sebastianand a computer with an arrow down03:58
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sebastianyes03:58
sebastiana find03:58
DaSkreechType gaim in there03:58
sebastianok03:58
sebastiangaim03:58
sebastiangaim data03:58
sebastiangaim dev03:59
DaSkreechSelect gaim03:59
sebastianthos three03:59
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psi-jackOkay. This is annoying...03:59
DaSkreechI think you only need to select gaim03:59
psi-jackI just did a full upgrade, and now KDM is crashing with sig11.03:59
DaSkreechAnything else that is needed will be installed automatically03:59
sebastianok i selected gaim03:59
sebastianor i tried03:59
sebastianand it said install and i clicked ok03:59
sebastianand then continue03:59
DaSkreechRight03:59
sebastianwhat do i do now_04:00
sebastianclose"04:00
sebastianclose?04:00
DaSkreechClick the Computer with the down arrow04:00
DaSkreechI think :)04:00
psi-jackWhat's up with kdm crashing since I did a full upgrade, any ideas at all?04:00
sebastianok....04:01
arrinmurrpsi-jack: did you upgrade to kde 3.5 ?04:01
sebastianfetch progress it says04:01
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psi-jackarrinmurr: Yes. It should have.04:01
sebastiani already had a somewhat newer version of kubuntu04:01
sebastianbut i was trying to make the partition bigger04:01
sebastianthe windows one04:01
sebastianand i accidentally erased both kubuntu and windows04:02
psi-jackYes. 3.5.0 confirmed. :)04:02
sebastianso i had to reinstall kubuntu04:02
sebastianok the box went gray04:02
sebastianthe kynaptic thing04:02
DaSkreechsebastian: Do you want a newer CD or do you want me to walk you through an upgrade now?04:02
psi-jackHumm. Od..04:02
arrinmurrpsi-jack: oh. don't know what could cause that then. i was about to suggest upgrading to 3.5 :/04:02
psi-jackI just removed and reinstalled kdm. And it's working now..04:02
arrinmurroh04:03
sebastianwait04:03
sebastianhow do i know if i have gaim now_04:03
sebastianthe kynaptci thing went gray04:03
sebastianunclickable04:03
DaSkreechWait till it becomes clickable again04:03
psi-jackWelp, BRB04:03
sebastianhow dia get xp back if it came with the computer?04:04
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DaSkreechWho did you get the computer from?04:04
Psi-JackOkay. This is getting annoying.04:04
sebastiangift from my uncle04:05
DaSkreechsebastian: Ask him :)04:05
DaSkreechsebastian: he should have access to the install04:05
sebastianok it-s clickable again04:05
Psi-JackAfter initial install, fonts in X, are HUGE.. Next time, huge still, but next after that, they're small.. The way I like. NOW they're HUUUUGE again. :(04:05
DaSkreechNow press Alt+F204:05
DaSkreechType in gaim and press enter04:05
sebastianok04:06
sebastiansome bouncy thing04:06
DaSkreech*laughs*04:06
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Psi-JackAnd why does Konversation keep randomly opening a query window with someone? It just opened one with DaSkreech04:07
sebastianok how do i get firefox now04:08
fyrmedicGreetings... Is there an application in KDE that will allow me to format a floppy disk in FAT or do I have to do it in Konsole?04:08
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: there's a bug or something that sometimes changes the fonts to small or something when booting up. restarting kdm usually helps with it. but i guess you like it the "wrong" way then. you do have adjusted the font sizes?04:08
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Psi-Jackarrinmurr: I did manually adjust the fonts, last time. Before it got huge again.04:09
Psi-JackWhen they were "smaller" and less huge. :p04:09
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: so the adjustments you made have somehow been reseted to defaults? or are they as you changed them, but fonts are still bigger than last time?04:11
sebastianwhat do i do now?04:11
DaSkreechsebastian: Same procedure04:12
DaSkreechClick on Firefox04:12
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: My adjustments are completely undone now.04:12
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: oh. but you upgraded kde? if that's it?04:13
Psi-JackI did a full upgrade, kernel, kde, etc. Everything that was marked upgradeable, was upgraded.04:13
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sebastianok hold on04:14
sebastianwhat do i look for?04:14
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: maybe that's the reason then. unless it does it every time you reboot or restart x or something04:14
Psi-JackAnd when I say they are HUGE. I mean... You could read the next a mile away. heh04:15
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arrinmurrPsi-Jack: are you able to change them back to the way you like them now?04:16
DaSkreechsebastian: Try mozilla-firefox04:16
sebastianhaha un tocayo04:16
sebastianok it-s getting it04:17
DaSkreechsebastian: Good :)04:17
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sebastianhow do i know if this is the latest gaim?04:18
sebastiancan't see the display pictures on msn04:18
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: Yes.. Now..04:19
Psi-JackMostly..04:19
DaSkreechsebastian: Almost assuredly it is not04:20
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DaSkreechsebastian: You are using an old version of Kubuntu it will only track gaim to a certain time04:20
Psi-JackOkay. Time to try my webcam again... :)04:22
sebastianok04:23
sebastiandid that04:23
sebastiankynaptic ungrayed again04:23
sebastiannow what?04:23
DaSkreechalt+F204:24
sebastianok i-ve got fire fox now04:24
DaSkreechFirefox04:24
DaSkreechIf that doesn't work then mozilla-firefox :)04:24
sebastianoops04:24
sebastiani went to the k menu04:24
sebastianand clicked04:24
DaSkreechThats the same thing04:24
sebastiannow it-s taking a while to load04:24
sebastianok04:24
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sebastianhow do i upgrade?04:25
Snake__sebastian, sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade04:26
DaSkreechSnake__: Nope04:26
DaSkreechSnake__: Hoary04:26
Snake__DaSkreech, ????04:26
sebastianWHAT?04:26
Snake__Ohhhh....whoopy04:26
DaSkreechsebastian: This is going to take a while so hope you either have time or nice broadband :)04:27
DaSkreechNOt a lot of time for you just for the upgrade04:27
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sebastianhow dia mean?04:27
sebastianok what do i do04:28
sebastianclose kynaptic?04:28
DaSkreechUmm04:28
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DaSkreechI think so04:28
sebastiandone04:28
DaSkreechI forgot how Kynaptic does things04:28
Snake__sebastian, if I may ask, how come your on hoary?04:28
DaSkreechOk ...04:28
sebastianthere's konsole04:28
DaSkreechSnake__: Old cd04:28
DaSkreechok04:28
sebastianwhat's hoary?04:28
DaSkreechThe old Kubuntu04:28
DaSkreech5.0404:29
DaSkreechWe are trying to get you to 5.1004:29
sebastianfirefox-s weird04:30
sebastianit opens but first it had a dialogue go "couldn-t find the //// file"04:30
DaSkreechYeah04:30
DaSkreech :-)04:30
Snake__sebastian, thats just a homepage screw up04:30
DaSkreechHappens to me too04:30
Snake__sebastian, small glitch, change the homepage and it will not do it any more04:31
sebastianokay04:31
DaSkreechIt's intended for Ubuntu not kubuntu04:31
sebastianwhat is?04:31
sebastiani already done change the homepage04:31
DaSkreechtype sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list in konsole04:32
DaSkreechFirefox is intended to be installed in ubuntu04:32
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sebastianit asks a password04:33
DaSkreechYour password04:33
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sebastianError: "/var/tmp/kdecache-sebastian" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.04:34
sebastianLink points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"04:34
McJerrycan i run gparted under kde?04:34
sebastian???04:34
DaSkreechLet me know when kate opens04:34
DaSkreechoh04:34
sebastiankate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.04:34
sebastiansebastian@00e07dda0ab3:~$ barefoot04:34
DaSkreechDo you have kynaptic open?04:34
sebastiannope04:34
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DaSkreechhmm04:34
sebastianok wait04:34
sebastiani-ll try again04:34
sebastiani-ll close konsole and open again04:34
koshadept is nice04:34
DaSkreechvery04:35
sebastianwhat do i type now>04:35
DaSkreechI got hives using kynaptic04:35
DaSkreechsudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list04:35
sebastianok i got my name thing04:35
sebastianbut it says something like04:35
sebastiancommand not found04:35
sebastianwhen i type my password04:35
DaSkreechWhat command?04:35
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DaSkreechsudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list ?04:36
sebastiansebastian@00e07dda0ab3:~$ sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list04:36
sebastianPassword:04:36
sebastiankate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed.04:36
DaSkreechIt says kate not found?04:36
DaSkreechok04:36
DaSkreechtry sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list04:36
DaSkreechI was trying to make it nice and pretty ;-)04:37
sebastianholy shite04:37
DaSkreechYou should get a lot of text :)04:37
DaSkreechRight04:37
DaSkreechWatch language please04:38
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sebastianok back04:38
sebastianA LOT of text04:39
poimensomeone kwos how to enable multiverse in dapper?04:39
sebastianwhat do i do now?04:40
DaSkreechOk you should see lines that read like deb http://jm.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted04:40
DaSkreechRight?04:41
sebastianaye04:41
DaSkreechOk some of them have a # in front of them04:41
DaSkreechyou can ignore these04:41
sebastianok04:41
computinchuckcan you customize the actions for specific devices when they're mounted?  for instance, in the mount kicker applet, can you set a custom icon for each removeable hard drive?04:42
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DaSkreechnow if you position the cursor at the start of the line that looks like the ones I mentioned before press Ctrl+K04:42
DaSkreechthen Ctrl+U twice04:42
DaSkreechWait04:42
DaSkreechWhat am I doing?04:42
DaSkreechHold on let me make this much easier04:42
sebastianok04:43
sebastiani did the ctrlk and it did nothing04:43
sebastianit spaced04:43
sebastianoh wait04:43
sebastianok i-ll wait04:43
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sebastianwhat do i do?04:45
DaSkreechI was typing on the wrong keyboard :-)04:45
DaSkreechtype Ctrl+W04:46
DaSkreechtype hoary04:46
sebastianok04:46
sebastianenter?04:46
DaSkreechYup04:46
sebastiannothing happened04:47
sebastianthe cursor moved04:47
sebastianto where it says hoary04:47
DaSkreechthe cursor didn't jump to the word hoary04:47
DaSkreechRight replace that with breezy04:47
DaSkreechdelete hoary and type breezy04:47
sebastiani typed that04:47
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DaSkreechGreat :)04:48
DaSkreechFound a better way04:48
DaSkreechAlt+R04:48
sebastianwhere do i type  that"?04:49
DaSkreechanywhere04:49
DaSkreechAlt+R04:49
sebastiansearch to replace hoary appeared04:49
DaSkreechtype hoary04:49
DaSkreechthen enter04:49
DaSkreechthen type breezy04:49
DaSkreechthen enter04:49
DaSkreechthen A04:49
DaSkreech:-)04:49
sebastianreplace with04:49
sebastianjust A and enter?04:49
DaSkreechbreezy04:49
sebastianok04:50
sebastiantyped breezy04:50
sebastianno A04:50
DaSkreechRight04:50
DaSkreechpress enter04:50
sebastianok it took me to teh second line04:50
sebastianwhere it says hoary04:50
arrinmurr...or then he could just delete everything and put deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse  in there ;)04:50
sebastian...04:51
DaSkreechbad arrinmurr Down!!!04:51
DaSkreech:-)04:51
DaSkreechYou replaced hoary with breezy?04:51
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DaSkreechsebastian: Hello?04:52
sebastianyes04:52
sebastianbut theres a second line04:52
sebastianwith hoary04:52
sebastianin it04:52
DaSkreechhuh?04:52
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: Did you do anything specific other than follow the directions, to get your spca50x webcam to work?04:52
DaSkreechHmm04:52
sebastiandeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted04:52
sebastiandeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted04:52
DaSkreechok Lets try again04:52
DaSkreechAlt+R04:53
DaSkreechtype hoary04:53
sebastianOH WAIT04:53
DaSkreechpress enter04:53
sebastianit says04:53
sebastianreplace this instance04:53
DaSkreechRight04:53
sebastianand then theres an A indeed04:53
DaSkreechpress a04:53
sebastianok04:53
sebastianback to breezy i got04:53
DaSkreechNo more haory?04:53
DaSkreechhoary?04:53
sebastianno04:54
sebastianbreezy04:54
DaSkreechok04:54
DaSkreechPress Ctrl+O04:54
DaSkreechthen Ctrl+X04:54
sebastianthis appeared04:54
sebastianafter ctrl o04:55
DaSkreechOh right :)04:55
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: no. i've understood is that the problem with the spca5xx.ko shipped with ubuntu is that it's just compiled with wrong version of gcc. you still didn't get it to work?04:55
DaSkreechClick enter04:55
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sebastianback to breezy04:55
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: Nope.. It still locks up my computer, hard.04:55
DaSkreechIt asked to write to /etc/apt/sources.list?04:56
DaSkreechRight?04:56
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: also i did the compiling on another computer, and on this one just just replaced the old file with the one i had compiled04:56
sebastianit did ebfore when i typed something04:56
sebastiansome ctrl plus something04:56
DaSkreechCtrl+O04:56
sebastianbut then it went away again04:56
sebastianyep04:56
DaSkreechWhen you pressed enter?04:56
sebastianfile name write something04:56
sebastianyes04:56
DaSkreechYup yup04:56
DaSkreechOk04:56
DaSkreechCtrl+X04:56
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sebastianetc sources list something04:56
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: Odd.. I don't get it.. It should work...04:57
sebastiannothign happened04:57
DaSkreechreally?04:57
DaSkreechCtrl+X did nothing?04:57
DaSkreechDo you have a message?04:57
sebastianfile name something04:57
DaSkreechenter04:57
sebastianbacak to breezy04:58
DaSkreechThen Ctrl+X04:58
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: and you're sure you removed the original spca5xx.ko ?04:58
Psi-JackPosative.04:58
sebastianasks for my password again04:58
sebastianand says04:58
sebastiancommand not found04:58
sebastianwhen i type my password04:58
DaSkreechAh :-)04:58
DaSkreechtype pwd04:58
DaSkreechDoes it print something?04:59
sebastianslash04:59
sebastianhome04:59
sebastianslash04:59
sebastiansebastian04:59
DaSkreechGood :)04:59
DaSkreechnow you can upgrade the safe geeky way or the slightly less safe pretty way04:59
sebastianbut the same thing appears04:59
sebastianasking for it again04:59
sebastianless safe?04:59
DaSkreechWell I don't trust kynaptic so you can take that with a grain of salt05:00
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sebastianwhat do idp?05:00
DaSkreechWhich route do you want to take?05:00
sebastianany, easier, i guess05:00
DaSkreechEither way you can more or less kick back and do what ever you want for the rest of the night05:00
DaSkreechopen kynaptic05:00
sebastianok05:00
DaSkreechk -> System -> Kynaptic05:00
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: ...which was in it's own directory under .../media . so you won't find it twice with locate -i spca5xx.ko ? (except if you have -9 version of kernel there too)05:01
sebastianwhat do i do about konsole?05:01
DaSkreechYou can klose it if you like05:01
DaSkreechsorry05:01
DaSkreechclose05:01
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sebastianwhat/05:01
arrinmurrhah :)05:01
DaSkreechOnce you have Kynaptic open then press the first button05:01
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: Well, right now, I'm about to re-build it again, for the -10-k7.05:02
DaSkreechOnce you get butttons back press the second button05:02
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sebastianok i tried to open kynaptic05:02
sebastianand it own-t load05:02
sebastianit asks a password05:02
sebastianand then i clicked ignore and it says i must run it as the root user05:03
DaSkreechRight05:03
sebastiani opened again05:03
DaSkreech it's your password it's asking for05:03
sebastianbut i don-t know the password05:03
sebastiani know but i give it and it doesnt work05:03
DaSkreechSure you typed it correctly?05:03
DaSkreechand Kynaptic isn't open already?05:03
sebastianok i typed it05:03
sebastiannow it went away05:03
sebastianok05:03
sebastianit loaded05:03
sebastianwhat do i do now05:04
DaSkreechFirst button05:04
DaSkreechonce you get buttons back05:04
sebastianrefresh one?05:04
DaSkreechsecond button05:04
DaSkreechRight05:04
sebastianok05:04
Psi-JackOkay.05:04
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: Now, I literally watched it remove the old version of spca5xx, and install the new one05:04
sebastiancoulndt start blah blah blah archives05:05
Psi-JackAnd. Now... To test it..05:05
sebastianno such file05:05
DaSkreechWhats the blah blah blah05:05
sebastiansource package list05:05
sebastianurl05:05
DaSkreechWhat URL05:05
sebastianbrezy restricted pacakages05:05
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sebastianhttp://security05:05
sebastianubuntu.com05:06
DaSkreechWhen you did the replace did you type breezy or brezy?05:06
sebastianbreezy restricted packages05:06
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: and you did modprobe -r the old one?05:06
sebastianbreezy05:06
sebastianthen it says underneath05:06
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sebastian(/vav/lib/apt/lists/us.archive05:07
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: and made sure the new one didn't get compiled with gcc4, as it won't work then05:07
sebastianubuntu.com05:07
sebastianno such file exists05:07
DaSkreechHmm05:08
sebastianif i close it it comes up again05:08
DaSkreechI think they may have something changed05:08
DaSkreechcan you open up konsole again?05:09
sebastiani can-t close kynaptic05:09
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sebastianwait05:09
sebastiani clicked on the dialogue05:09
sebastiana lot of times05:09
sebastianon ok05:09
DaSkreechYeah05:09
sebastianand its loading something05:09
DaSkreechok05:09
sebastianand the buttons are clickable again05:09
sebastiannow what?05:09
DaSkreechif it's throwing errors I'd like to check something first05:09
DaSkreechIf you don't mind05:10
sebastianok05:10
sebastiankonsole?05:10
DaSkreechYes05:10
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sebastianopenin05:10
Psi-JackNegative.05:10
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DaSkreechpress up till you see the sudo nano command again05:10
sebastiansebastian@00e07dda0ab3:~$05:10
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: do you still have the -10-386 kernel installed?05:10
sebastianthats what comes up in konsole05:10
sebastianwhat do i type?05:11
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: Yes05:11
sebastiansebastian@00e07dda0ab3:~$ sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list05:11
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: I tried it in -10-386 first.05:11
DaSkreechRight05:11
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: yeah. i was just wondering that maybe you could try to .ko i've compiled05:11
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: thought it shouldn't make a difference05:11
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: Sure... Send it..05:12
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Psi-JackAs it is now, the only option left I got is to get the spca50x from the sf site.05:12
matrixwhy ubuntu used full memory?05:12
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DaSkreechsebastian: opened the lot of text again?05:13
Psi-JackBut, it doesn't look like the spca50x project page even has ANYTHING current. :/05:13
sebastiannope05:13
sebastiani just scrolled up till that appeared05:13
DaSkreechasked for password?05:13
DaSkreechOh05:13
DaSkreechPress enter05:13
sebastianam i sup;osed to press enter?05:13
sebastianpassword05:13
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: ah, i need to register to be able to send05:13
Psi-JackHehe.05:14
DaSkreechYour password05:14
sebastianok05:14
sebastianlot of text05:14
DaSkreechok05:14
sebastiandeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted05:14
sebastiandeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy  main restricted05:14
DaSkreechok05:14
DaSkreechIs there a deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted entry?05:14
DaSkreechensure it says breezy-security05:14
sebastiannope05:15
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DaSkreechok is there a deb http://jm.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted ?05:16
Psi-JackGreat! mxhaard.free.fr is now giving me Service Unavailabl;e.05:16
sebastiandeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy -updates main restricted05:16
sebastiandeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy -updates main restricted05:16
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: or you could just allow unregistered users to send messages / open dcc with you05:17
sebastianer....05:17
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: /msg nickserv set unfiltered on05:17
sebastiani accidentally pasted05:17
sebastianand i then ctrl z to undo05:17
sebastianwhat do i do now?05:17
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: Done.05:17
sebastianok back to where iwas05:17
DaSkreechok05:18
DaSkreechNo Security one though?05:18
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: 10-4.. Got it..05:18
sebastiandeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted05:18
sebastiandeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy  main restricted05:18
sebastian## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the05:18
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: 10-4 ?05:18
sebastian## distribution.05:18
sebastiandeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy -updates main restricted05:18
sebastiandeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy -updates main restricted05:18
sebastian## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'05:18
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: heheh.. 10-4, in the US, is a police call-code for all clear. :)05:19
sebastian## repository.05:19
DaSkreechThen a lot of comments?05:19
DaSkreechok05:19
sebastian## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu05:19
sebastian## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to05:19
DaSkreechLook at the bottom of the comments05:19
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sebastian## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in05:19
sebastian## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security05:19
sebastian## team.05:19
sebastian# deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy  universe05:19
sebastian# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy  universe05:19
sebastianthats all that shows05:19
DaSkreechok05:19
Psi-JackOkay..05:19
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: ah, ok. i was about to say that, "no, 10-386" ;)05:19
Psi-JackI'll try this module. :)05:19
bimberibreezy<space>updates???05:19
sebastiano...k05:19
Psi-JackIn 10-k7, and then 10-38605:19
sebastianWAIT05:19
arrinmurrok05:19
sebastian# deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy -security universe05:20
sebastian# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy -security universe05:20
sebastian^!05:20
sebastianwhat do id o?05:20
DaSkreechDelete the # at the start of those two lines05:21
sebastiandone05:21
sebastianbrb i have to go open the door05:21
bimberisebastian: also, remove the spaces in "breezy -security" and "breezy -updates"05:22
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: Yep. It doesn't like being loaded in k7. :) I'll be back, yet again.. :)05:22
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sebastianback05:26
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sebastianDaSkreech: ought i do as he says05:26
DaSkreechYeah05:27
DaSkreechIf there are spaces05:27
sebastianbreezyslash security now05:28
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sebastianall written together05:28
DaSkreechdash?05:28
DaSkreechnot slash right?05:28
sebastiandash05:28
DaSkreechOne big word?05:28
sebastianpardon?05:29
sebastianbreezydashsecurity05:29
DaSkreechright05:29
DaSkreechbreezy-security05:29
DaSkreechbreezy-updates05:29
sebastianok05:29
DaSkreechCtrl+o05:29
DaSkreechenter05:29
DaSkreechCtrl+x05:29
sebastianthere are two spaces tho05:30
sebastianbetween breezy05:30
sebastianand universe05:30
DaSkreechYeah05:30
lightstruckhey guys, quick question for all those with kernel compilation experience.  Can I redo a makefile for the kernel I'm using while I'm using it?05:30
DaSkreechThats fine05:30
DaSkreechWait universe?05:30
sebastianyes05:30
DaSkreechOh missed that :)05:30
sebastian# deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy  universe05:30
sebastian# deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy  universe05:30
sebastianso?05:30
sebastianwhat do i do05:30
DaSkreechThey have # in front if them?05:31
sebastianaye05:31
DaSkreechHmm05:31
DaSkreechAnd no security?05:31
sebastianno them are at the end05:31
DaSkreechI guess you can leave those then05:31
sebastianand i took the # off05:31
DaSkreechThats fine05:31
sebastiankk05:31
DaSkreechCtrl+o05:31
DaSkreechenter05:32
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DaSkreechCtrl+x05:32
sebastianwhen i enter after ctrl o05:32
sebastianit takes me to the space05:32
sebastianjust before universe05:32
DaSkreechright05:32
DaSkreechand?05:32
sebastianctrl x anyway?05:32
DaSkreechIt didn't ask you to write out a file?05:32
sebastianfile name to write05:33
DaSkreechyeah05:33
sebastian etc/apt/sources.list05:33
DaSkreechright05:33
DaSkreechenter05:33
sebastianok05:33
sebastianctrl x?05:33
DaSkreechyes05:33
sebastiansudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list05:33
sebastiansebastian@00e07dda0ab3:~$05:33
DaSkreechok05:34
arrinmurrthere's a nice name for a computer ;)05:34
DaSkreechKynaptic still open?05:34
sebastianaye05:34
DaSkreechI guess to be safe close it and open it again05:34
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sebastianok05:35
sebastiannow what do i do05:35
DaSkreechFirst buton05:36
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Psi-Jackarrinmurr: Wanna hear something totally messed up?05:36
sebastianok05:36
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: well?05:36
sebastianback to clickable05:36
lightstruckCan I mess with the makefile of the 2.6.14 kernel if I'm running 2.6.14?  And will compile take as long?05:36
sebastianwhat now05:36
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: I got it to work. My own, in -10-k7 just now..05:36
DaSkreechsecond button05:37
sebastianok05:37
DaSkreechThere you go05:37
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: wow, with the one you compiled yourself?05:37
sebastiannow what?05:37
DaSkreechBack to clickable?05:37
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: The deal is.. I have my onboard USB 1.1, and PCI USB 2.0 card. And the camera was on the 2.0 card.. I just swapped my mouse for USB camera, putting the camera onto the on-board USB, and it's working now.05:37
sebastianyes05:37
DaSkreechThird button05:37
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: oh05:37
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: And it's working now.. It's REALLy crappy quality.... But it's working..05:38
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starI am new and would like to know which is better adept or sanaptic05:38
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: Any ideas why it would fail to work on my NEC-based USB controller?05:38
DaSkreechstar: I'd say they are pretty close05:38
sebastianit-s loaidng somethng05:38
DaSkreechI like adept by synaptic is simpler05:38
sebastianit looks like it'll take a while05:38
DaSkreechsebastian: It'll take a while05:39
DaSkreechYeah :_05:39
sebastianbrb i need to get some tobacco to roll me a fag and some grub05:39
DaSkreechGo ahead05:39
starI have noticed that adept dosent get all the packages like sanaptic is there a reason or am I doing something wrong05:40
lightstruckanybody compile their own kernel?05:40
DaSkreechstar: What are you trying to get?05:40
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: no idea. i did notice that with multiple cameras they need to be attached to different controllers, but i don't know about that05:40
starplugins for mplayer05:40
lightstruckuse automatix05:41
starhow05:41
lightstruckeither hit up ubuntu forums and search automatix for kubuntu or check adept05:41
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: is the camera just bad, or has the quality been better with some other OS?05:41
starok05:41
lightstruckI doubt with your repos it'll be in adept though05:41
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: Well, I did have it on a Belkin TetraHUB, as well, off the USB 2.0 controller.05:42
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Psi-Jackarrinmurr: The quality is /much/ better in Windows.05:42
Psi-JackIt could just be VLC, but.. I dunno.05:42
starI got the multiverse and universe I got that far05:42
lightstruckstar: go to this page and follow the instructions   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10534305:42
starok and thank you05:43
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lightstruckglad to help05:43
lightstruckcan anyone help me with kernel compilation?05:43
lightstruckto change the one I'm in without starting from scratch?05:44
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: oh. it did say that the quality is very low in the table with spca5xx supported cameras http://mxhaard.free.fr/spca5xx.html (but - as you already noticed earlier - it's down)05:44
Psi-JackYeah. heh.05:44
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: According to the spca50x SourceForge site, it had nothing ill supported about it.05:45
Psi-JackHmmm.05:45
Psi-JackKopete doesn't have video options now? Must be a plugin.05:45
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: it should have05:46
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Psi-JackWell, it doesn't THIS time...05:48
Psi-JackHeh05:48
arrinmurris it v 0.11?05:49
Psi-JackAhh, no.05:50
Psi-Jack0.10.405:50
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arrinmurrhmm.. you said you installed KDE 3.5?05:50
Psi-JackYes05:50
Psi-JackIt says it's using KDE 3.5.0..05:50
arrinmurrkopete should have been upgraded to 0.11 then05:51
Psi-JackYeah. It was marked upgradable.. Still..05:51
Psi-JackOdd.. Very odd..05:51
arrinmurryou added that to your sources.list http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php ?05:51
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Psi-JackYeah, that did it..05:55
Psi-JackOkay. arrinmurr, do you use kopete, by chance?05:56
lightstruckI ain05:56
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lightstruckI ain't to proud to beg.  I really really need help so I don't compile 2.6.14 19 times to make it perfect05:57
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arrinmurrPsi-Jack: not really. at the moment i don't have account to any IM service05:59
Psi-JackAhh, I se.e05:59
Psi-JackWell, does anyone else know how to get Kopete, while still using the KDE wallet, to not have to ask for the password everytime you connect, or would it just be plain better to disable the Wallet, or can you disable the wallet use JUST for Kopete?05:59
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lightstruckyea real easy when it asks you to enter your password for wallet say cancel06:02
lightstruckthen it will bring up your kopete password and click the box remember password06:02
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Psi-JackHmm, but I have Kopete all setup to remember my passwords, already.06:02
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lightstruckyou'll probably have to disable wallet06:05
Psi-JackI see.06:05
lightstrucknot a great choice06:05
Psi-JackYeah.. But, oh well. Now I gotta go fix my skype..06:06
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lightstruckkernel compile anyone?06:09
lightstruckanyone?06:09
lightstruckBueller?06:09
arrinmurrmaybe you could try in some debian channel06:10
lightstruckthink the regular ubuntu channel would know?06:10
Knowerrorslightstruck: I did a kernel compile on Kubuntu, Im running 2.6.14.406:10
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lightstruckKnowerrors: My only question is I need to modify it more.  But I don't want to overdo it cause its working right now.  Can I tweak one thing at a time without recompiling a new deb package?06:12
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KnowerrorsNo, to use your kernel you gotta compile it, thats the only way to use your new custom config06:13
KnowerrorsYou will always have your old original kernel to fall back on, so don't worry06:13
lightstruckyea, its just 40 min is a long time to wait06:13
Knowerrorswhat are you worried about changing?06:14
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Psi-JackHmm, dangit.06:15
Psi-JackI HAD SKype working fine before. But now it's doing it again.06:15
KnowerrorsHey all, anybody using the latest kde 3.5 konqueror for web browsing?  I notice some websites I usually visit, including gmail, have errors that firefox doesn't06:15
lightstruckwell I wanted it to be exact to my hardware and not have extras.  But this with all the extra is my first working compile and the times before it didn't boot it just said "Uncompressing Linux" and all the font shifted and spaced out06:16
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: doing what? for some reason skype under breezy takes a _long_ time to load. do you have other problems too?06:16
Psi-JackI have problems with it not releasing the sound, so after one successful call, it locks the audio so it can't be used.06:16
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: ah, that problem. what version is it?06:16
Knowerrorslightstruck: did you use lspci to check what hardware you have?06:17
Knowerrorsuse that as a reference, then search in the config to make sure you have all those chipsets enabled06:17
Knowerrorslightstruck: and if you haven't seen it already this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85064&highlight=kernel+compile is a great guide06:18
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: The latest version.. Umm 1.2.0.18_API06:18
lightstruckwow, that could save me a bundle of time.  But what about all those extra filesystems?06:18
lightstruckand options06:18
Psi-JackOne of the things I'm pondering doing, is getting Skype to use my on-board Audio for "Phone" use, and leave my SB PCI 512 for everything else.06:19
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: oh. i thought it was fixed for the latest version06:19
lightstruckI only use reiserfs and ntfs, can I turn the rest off and still boot?06:19
Psi-JackYeah. I HAD it working fine once.. I had changed like some audio settings, in arts, and it fixed it even for Skype. But.. I've had to reinstall since then.06:20
Psi-JackAnd it'll never release the audio, till a reboot, will it?06:22
Knowerrorslightstruck: as far as filesystems, you can turn the others off, as long as you include reiser as a (*) and not as (M)06:23
KnowerrorsI would leave most of the options as they are, unless you know for sure you don't need them06:23
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: don't know. i've only read about that problem06:23
Psi-JackWhere's kubuntu's rc.d scripts?06:24
lightstruckKnowerrors: thats all I needed to know.  Thank you an immense amount06:24
lightstruckespecially the lspci06:24
lightstruckgenius06:24
lightstruckI'm gonna go tweak like crazy.  Later, and thanks again Knowerrors06:25
Psi-JackBasically where's the scripts to do "start" "stop" etc... In Ubuntu's init system?06:25
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Psi-JackAhh.06:25
Psi-JackJust answered myself. :)06:25
Psi-JackArgh.06:27
Psi-JackStill didn't let me restart arts.06:27
Knowerrors How can I make kde only check ntpdate when net is connected? (check time automatically is enabled, but its not setting time itself)06:32
KnowerrorsI use dialup, so its not on all the time06:32
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Psi-JackOkay. NOW I have both sound interfaces enabled.. And arts decided to default to the VIA one. heh06:42
flipjargcould anyone tell me which gtk package i need installed to run firefox?06:42
Psi-Jackapt-get install firefox, or use Adept.06:43
flipjargi've installed it, it says i need gtk though06:44
Psi-JackHmm. Odd.. apt-get install firefox worked fine for me.. Automatically got any dependancies it had.. How did you install it?06:44
flipjargwith apt-get06:45
flipjargi updated and everything06:45
flipjargused every repo06:45
flipjargweird.06:45
flipjarg... i just tried running it again and it works06:45
flipjargbut with an error message.06:45
flipjargit's working though.06:46
Psi-JackOkay.. /dev/dsp is apparently my VIA sound chipset. How, with devfs, could I set my SB PCI512 to dsp, and have the VIA use dsp1?06:46
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ubuntuhello07:01
ubuntuis anybody available07:01
kkathmanhello07:01
ubuntuhi kkathman07:02
kkathmanhowdy07:02
ubuntui'm testing Kubuntu on Sony VIAO07:02
ubuntuworks nicely07:02
ubuntuonly one thing07:02
ubuntuthe speaker icon has a line through it07:03
ubuntuand I am assuming there is no audio07:03
kkathmanhmm.. have you enabled sound?07:03
ubuntuone thing about ubuntu though07:03
ubuntuno not yet, am using the live dvd07:03
ubuntuone thing i have noticed is that it has a driver for the wide screen on the viao07:03
ubuntusomething i can't find on some other distros07:04
ubuntuwhich is good07:04
kkathmanthats good ::)07:04
ubuntuis alsaconf included in kubuntu?07:04
kkathmanif you can, try looking at systemsettings - sound and multimedia  be sure that sound is enabled07:04
ubuntuok07:04
kkathmanIm not sure if alsaconf is there or not07:04
ubuntuok07:04
kkathmanIve used the live CD only a couple of times and my sound worked right off the boot07:05
kkathmanbut it was on an IBM Thinkpad07:05
ubuntuok07:05
ubuntuthis laptop has an intel card07:05
kkathmanand I wasnt running kubuntu for that matter07:05
ubuntuok07:05
kkathmansorry I cant be of more help :(07:06
ubuntusure no problem07:06
ubuntualso, i have been looking for how to remove the windows install partition on this machine07:06
ubuntusince it is wrather new it's kind of hard07:06
ubuntuis there a live CD that lets you partition drives07:07
ubuntuso i can delete it07:07
kkathmanno, the live CDs dont write at all in general07:07
kkathmanbut the install disk WILL allow you to partition07:07
ubuntuok07:07
ubuntusince ubuntu is based on debian i guess it should be no problem, i have used the partitioner in the debian net install cd07:08
ubuntuok07:08
kkathmanIm sure you wont have any trouble understanding it07:08
ubuntuok, actually no debian expert07:08
ubuntui'm no debian expert07:08
ubuntui jumped in to try it07:08
ubuntuand found it wrather difficult07:09
ubuntubut i liked apt-get07:09
kkathmanstill, it gives you basically 2 options 1) let it partition automatically (and wipe the disk) or 2) you decide how to partition07:09
ubuntuok07:09
kkathmanits pretty straightforward07:09
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ubuntuI have a Dell Pentium II that i wanted to instal ubuntu server on07:09
ubuntubut the problem is that the video card won't get detected07:10
ubuntuso it uses really low resolution07:10
kkathmanubuntu: I have an old Dell p2 450 with 128mb memory and I run ubuntu just fine on it07:10
ubuntui get 800 x 600 24 bit color07:10
kavitubuntu: why run X on a server?07:10
ubuntuok07:10
ubuntuwell I guess your right, but i like X for running the apps07:10
kkathmanprolly dont need to run X on any kind of server really07:11
ubuntui guess i wanted a combination desktopand server07:11
kkathmanbut if you want it...its there07:11
ubuntuwanted to put a bookmarker on it07:11
kavitubuntu: just install normal ubuntu and install the services you want07:11
ubuntuok07:11
ubuntulet me ask you one question about my install07:12
kavitsure07:12
ubuntuwhen I installed ubuntu, I noticed that it chose 24 bit color at a lower resolution07:12
ubuntui like to use 16 bit color at a higher resolution07:12
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ubuntubut ubuntu won't detect the 102x768 resolutiuon07:12
ubuntu1024x76807:13
ubuntuso it gives 800 x 600 at 24 bit07:13
ubuntui have an ati card07:13
kkathmanwhen you install, you will need to check off those resolutions you want other than the autodetect07:13
ubuntuoh ok07:14
kkathmanati is problematic, but still should be ok07:14
ubuntuso I have to deactivate autodetect07:14
ubuntuand then manually choose settings?07:14
ubuntuok, i'll try it07:14
kkathmanit should give you the option during the install07:14
ubuntuok07:14
kkathmanjust be heads up on looking for it07:14
ubuntudebian and knoppix work ok07:14
ubuntuok so should be no problem07:15
kkathmanafter the install, you can reconfigure if you want also07:15
ubuntuone more simple question07:15
ubuntucan i use the debian repositories for ubuntu?07:15
kkathmanno07:15
kkathmannot usually07:15
ubuntuoh, ok07:15
kkathmanyou CAN however use debs in many cases...but not their repos07:15
ubuntuok07:16
kkathmanmost of the things you'll find anyway07:16
ubuntuanyway ubuntu is nice distro07:16
kkathmanthere are almost 18,000 packages07:16
ubuntualways wanted to try it07:16
ubuntuwow07:16
ubuntuthat's why i like debian distros07:16
kkathmanits very nice and the user community is very helpful07:16
ubuntugreat07:16
kkathmangood luck and hope to see you back in here :)07:17
ubuntuluckily this laptop has an intel video card07:17
kavitubuntu: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:17
ubuntuok thanks07:17
kkathmankavit: he's only running live cd right now07:17
ubuntuand hope you have a nice new year07:17
kavitah07:17
kkathmanwhen he installs he can try that if its not working :)07:17
kkathmandepending on the ATI card, he may or may not have issues...probably wont07:18
kaviti dont know what peoples issue with ATI cards is07:19
ubuntuuses mach64 driver07:19
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odathi everyone07:20
odatquick question07:20
kavitI have an X800 running wonderfully07:20
kkathmankavit: some ATI card are problematic.... ATI isnt very Linux friendly07:20
kavitkkathman: it has come a long way07:20
kkathmanyeah it has07:20
kavitespecially 8.20.807:20
sebastiani need help07:20
kavitor whatever the new version is.07:20
odatif i installed kubuntu-desktop will those libraries be loaded when i use gnome or only when i use kde07:20
sebastianhow do i get the icons to be bigger07:21
kkathmanodat both07:21
kavitsebastian: icons to be bigger where?07:21
kkathmansebastian: system settings07:21
sebastiani just got firefox but both the icons adn the fonts inside firefox and conqueror are too small07:21
sebastiani already went to fonts07:21
sebastianbut it didn-t change anything07:21
odatkkathman, so if i install kubuntu-desktop those libraries will be loaded regardless of desktop?07:21
ubuntuati rage pro turbo agp07:21
kavitsebastian: Konqueror :(07:21
kkathmansebastian: system settings - appearance - icons - advanced tab07:21
kkathmanodat yes07:22
odathmmm07:22
odatk07:22
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kkathmanodat you can run kde apps in gnome and vice versa07:22
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sebastianhow do i get the text of html pages to be bigger07:23
kkathmansebastian: in the browser you are using07:23
sebastianwithout ahving to go to firefox view>text size>increase every time07:23
kkathmanusually under the preferences07:24
kkathmansebastian: no thats the way you do it07:24
kkathmanset your preferences in firefox07:24
sebastianwhat about the icons07:24
sebastiani changed the size bigger07:24
sebastianyet firefox-s icons remain the same07:24
kavitsebastian: hit <ctrl> & + in firefox to increase text size07:25
kavitfaster than using the mouse07:25
kkathmansebastian: things inside firefox are set in there not in KDE07:25
sebastianthen how do you change the icons bigger?07:25
sebastianthe icons are wee compared to how firefox works on windows07:25
kkathmansebastian: you can set your default font in FFox -  Edit - Preferences (on the front page Colors and Fonts)07:26
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kkathmansebastian: dont try to compare FFx in windows and linux they are not the same07:26
ftg2you want bigger icons? change the theme.07:27
kkathmanyep that works too07:27
sebastianhow do i do that?07:29
sebastianright now i am upgrading to breezy07:29
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kkathmansebastian: Tools - Extensions07:30
sebastianok i have the gb english pack07:32
sebastiantheres  an option to get more extensions07:32
sebastiani don-t want to change the theme though07:32
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Psi-JackAnyone here know if artsd, left default configuration, if it'll lock multiple sound cards, or just the one on index 0?07:34
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dgeyerDoes anyone know the official release of Dapper, or where i can find the info to it07:37
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dgeyerthe release date?07:37
Hobbsee!dapper07:37
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.07:37
dgeyerthank you07:38
Hobbsee!wiki dapperdrake07:38
Hobbseehmmm07:38
Hobbseewiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake07:38
sebastianis winlinux easier than kubuntu for a windows user?07:38
dgeyerthanks for the link07:38
Hobbseewinlinux?07:39
kieranhey hobsee07:39
kieranthanks for helping out last night07:39
kieranmuch appreciated07:39
kieranpretty sure everything worked07:39
sebastiancan you install/run .exe files on winlinux?07:39
Hobbseekieran: no problems :)07:39
freeflying_Anyone is usingdapper now ?07:39
Hobbseefreeflying_: yep07:39
kieranwhat is dapper?07:39
Hobbseewell, not right now right now, but i was earlier07:39
dgeyerI Love Linux, i just recently switched from Fedora, to SuSE to Kubuntu.07:39
Hobbseekieran: read up07:39
dgeyerGot to love it07:40
freeflying_Hobbsee: may you have a try of sikm for me07:40
Hobbseenot booted there now - mouse is somehow screwed up07:40
Hobbsee*touchpad07:40
kieranim having problems getting resolv.conf to keep my DNS settings saved07:40
dgeyerI had some problems w/ dapper uing Adept, after an update it crashes, and wont work any more, but the terminal it will07:40
kieranalways goes back to defualt07:40
kavitdo the ati fglrx drivers work on dapper with Xorg 6.9 ?07:41
freeflying_I need someone have a try of skim under dapper07:41
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kieranahhhh07:42
kierandapper is new ubuntu07:42
kieranis it good?07:42
kkathmankieran: its to be released in April07:43
ftg2i'm using dapper now. using nvidia-glx corrupts the virtual consoles and causes random crashes when attempting to switch back into x, but other than that no problems.07:43
sampanit will be good, but if "stable" and "works properly" are part of your definition of "good" then dapper is currently -not- good, because it's in heavy development07:43
kkathmangood way to put it sampan :)07:43
ubuntuok07:44
ubuntuthanks for all your help07:44
sampanlol07:44
ubuntuwill go ahead and try things you all told me07:44
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ubuntuwill be back07:44
ubuntuthank07:44
ubuntubye07:44
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kieranwb hobs07:46
Hobbseeoy!07:46
Hobbseekubuntu dapper didnt detect my serial mouse!07:46
kkathmanoooops07:46
Hobbseehow do i run the hardware detection again?07:46
sampanoy oy oy!  aussie aussie aussie!07:47
Hobbseeyep07:47
kieranhahaha07:47
Hobbseehi sampan07:47
kierannice07:47
sampanhi hobbsee  :)07:47
dgeyerSo I take it the distro works be release by. example 6.04. Would be Year.Month07:47
sebastianwhat do you do after kynaptic loads teh upgrade(breezy)?07:47
Hobbseeyes07:47
dgeyerawsome07:47
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dgeyerthanks for everthing guys07:50
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dgeyereverything*07:50
dgeyer<--- First time on IRC07:50
naliothdgeyer: welcome07:51
kieranare there any other repositories other than archive.kubuntu.com07:51
kieran?07:51
freeflying_Hobbsee: hi07:51
Hobbseehi freeflying_07:52
freeflying_Hobbsee: r u in kde now07:52
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Hobbseeyeah, and my touchpad is screwing up - must have been yesterdays upgrades, mouse isnt moving as far as it should, as i move my finger on the touchpad - and i forgot to plug in the wired mouse before booting, so that's not been detected07:53
Hobbseeso i might end up rebooting again07:53
ilba7rhowdee hobbsee :)07:54
freeflying_Hobbsee: hmm07:54
freeflying_Hobbsee: may you install skim for a test07:54
Hobbseeyes, how do i do it?07:55
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freeflying_ Hobbsee sudo aptitude install skim scim-pinyin scim-qtimm07:55
sampanare the scim/skim packages in dapper (backports) now?  i'm -still- dyin...errr waiting patiently for them in breezy ;X07:56
Hobbseegrabbing them07:56
freeflying_sampan: scim and skim are in universe now07:56
sampan(that is to say, the packages are in the breezy repos, but they're busted badly -- lots of problems with them)07:56
sampanfreeflying_  yeah, but there are serious problems with the repos' packages07:57
freeflying_sampan: what ?07:57
sampanfreeflying_  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/697907:58
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sampana bunch of chinese linux forums basically came to the conclusion: if you -need- scim don't install breezy, just stick with hoary until the dapper backports are ready -- the problems are severe -- scim locks up my pc so bad even alt-cntl-backspace won't kill X -- i have to literally unplug my pc to get it to unhang07:59
Hobbseefreeflying_: ok, how do i test it?07:59
Mezsampan: it is not currently possible to backport scim07:59
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Mezsampan: well not without backporting EVERY single application that uses scim anyway08:00
sampanMez, so basically it's "wait until dapper" -- that's pretty disappointing for a distro that prides itself on internationalization.  i really love ubuntu, but .. man08:00
sebastianwhat do i do after kynaptic has loaded breezy?08:00
Mezsampan - you may want to speak to mdz about getting the problems fixed in breezy - but - as a "backport" it's not possible08:01
MezI'm not saying it can't be fixed - just saying it cant be fixed through backports :D08:01
freeflying_Hobbsee:  then  " sudo nano /etc/X11/Xsession.d/95xinput"08:01
freeflying_Hobbsee:  Add following line in it08:01
sampanMez, gotcha.  who's mdz?  because i would dearly love to get scim back (kinda need it for writing my dissertation)08:01
freeflying_Hobbsee: export XMODIFIERS=@im=SCIM08:01
sebastianhelp08:02
freeflying_Hobbsee: export GTK_IM_MODULE="scim"08:02
Mezsampan - mdz is our CTO (or something like that)08:02
Mezour head techy guy08:02
freeflying_Hobbsee: export QT_IM_MODULE="scim"08:02
freeflying_Hobbsee: and make the file named 95xinput excutable08:02
Mezsampan, as a suggestion - you might want to bring up the scim issues in a Tech Board meeting and exaplin what the problem is and say how it affects you and many others and explain why it needs to be fixed08:02
Hobbseefreeflying_: done08:03
Hobbseethen what?08:03
freeflying_Hobbsee: restart kde08:03
Mezsampan, the next Tech Board Meeting is on tuesday 17th, at 20:00 UTC08:03
sampanMez, ahhhhh ... i might give him a try one of these days.  The bug report was pretty accurate for my troubles.  Oddly, scim worked on initial install for me, but then blew up after an update (same updates that fixed the kubuntu admin mode bug)08:03
Mezfor refence the time in utc is currently08:03
Hobbseeok08:03
MezThu Jan 12 07:04:07 UTC 200608:04
freeflying_sampan: As for the breezy , I can use scim and skim smoothly08:04
Mezit may be worth bringing it up int he tech board meeting08:04
Mezor if it's kubuntu-specific - speak to Riddell regarding it - he should be able to talk to Matt about getting it into breezy-updates08:04
sampanMez, i think that time might be doable for me.  Is there any procedure I have to go through to get there, and/or on the agenda?08:04
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freeflying_Mez: there have MainInclusionReport of scim and skim08:05
Hobbseeok, i'm back08:05
freeflying_Hobbsee:  run " skim -d "08:05
HobbseeOOH!  reverted to the other driver, touchpad works fine again!08:05
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freeflying_Hobbsee: and tell me what happens08:05
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Mezfreeflying_, is it not currently main ?08:06
sampanfreeflying_  yeah, it doesn't blow up for everyone. but the bug report link i posted is pretty accurate for me -- although seems my lockups were even more severe than most peoples' problems with it.08:06
Hobbseefreeflying_: does nothing, just goes back to the prompt08:06
Hobbseeno errors or anything08:06
Mezfreeflying - I believe Riddel''s trying to fix the internationalisation issues by introducing immodule08:06
Mezwell, for input :D08:06
freeflying_Hobbsee: can you get skim system tray icon like this http://ubuntu-zh.3322.org/screenshot/skim-trayicon.png08:07
Hobbseeno system tray icon at all08:08
freeflying_Hobbsee: is your kde up-to-data08:09
Hobbseeshould be, yep08:09
freeflying_sampan:  Mez  : http://wiki.kubuntu.org/MainInclusionReportskim  http://wiki.kubuntu.org/InputMethods/SCIM?highlight=%28scim%2908:10
Hobbseeit is08:10
sebastianok08:10
sebastiani was getting breezy08:10
sebastianthen it said it couldn-t get certain packages08:11
freeflying_Hobbsee:  It's seems something wrong with it08:11
sebastianthen it went grey08:11
sebastiankynaptic that is08:11
sebastianthen i reopened it08:11
sebastianand clicked on the third icon08:11
sebastianand it says operation not doable with broken packages08:11
sebastianfix them first08:11
sebastianhow do i go abut doing this?08:11
Hobbseefreeflying_: indeed - refresh kde, and try again?08:11
freeflying_Hobbsee: it won't work , I suppose08:12
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sebastianit says could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock open08:13
sebastiananyone?08:13
Hobbseesebastian: close synaptic/adept first08:13
sebastiani did08:13
sampanfreeflying_  *nod*  yeah that all looks right.  believe me, i've installed and used scim on mandrake 10.1, mandriva 2005LE, mandriva 2006, knoppix, ubuntu hoary -- and it did work briefly on breezy too. :/08:13
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sampanbut i've installed and reinstalled about 6 different times on breezy since it went *boom* and i can't get it to work any more08:14
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freeflying_sampan: I don't know which release of scim you've installed08:15
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sampanthe ones in the repos08:15
freeflying_sampan: but you may have a look here suppose08:15
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sebastianwhat do i do now?08:15
freeflying_sampan: it is 1.0.2 in breezy now , And you mean this one08:15
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sampanfreeflying_  isn't that the same version that's been there since release?08:16
freeflying_sampan: in dapper is 1.4.2 now08:17
sampanyeah, that's the current version from scim itself, right?08:17
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freeflying_sampan:  but it's not in breezy , if you want to use the up-to-data release of scim in breezy , you'd add this repo08:18
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freeflying_sampan: deb http://ubuntu.cn99.com/ubuntu breezy main08:19
sampanare those the debs that are listed on the bug report?  if so, i went to that site and downloaded those debs and installed and they segfaulted on me too08:19
freeflying_sampan:  the segfault you get is not due to scim's fault08:20
freeflying_sampan: it have bveen talked too much08:20
freeflying_sampan: you can find it in Suse's ml and scim's08:21
freeflying_sampan: scim deb in the repo I gave above will works fine08:22
sampank, i'll give it a go and see -- my research writing is a lot simpler if i can just input characters as i type notes, etc.08:23
kierancan anyone help with config of resolv.conf?08:24
kieranwont stayed saved after i reboot08:24
freeflying_kieran: nameserver  xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx08:24
kierangot that bit sorted08:25
kierani save it with wq08:25
kieranthen i restart computer08:25
kieranand goes back to original router address08:25
kierani added in my own DNS address' that i wantd08:25
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ftg2what packages do I need for X development (dapper)? i've already installed x-window-system-dev yet konstruct still complains about missing X paths :\08:31
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sampanfreeflying_  funny -- i just set that repo as my only repo in sources.list, updated package lists, and it doesn't even show scim there08:34
sebastiani need help08:34
kieransame08:34
sebastiani was loading breezy on kynaptic08:34
kierani need some help08:34
sebastianand it finished08:34
freeflyingsankarshan: then just download the deb file you want , and dpkg -i08:34
sebastianbut when i was going to click on the second button08:34
sebastianthen it says some lock can-t be open or something08:35
sebastianand that the operation is not executable with broken packages08:35
sebastianthat ive got to fix them first08:35
sebastianand for some reason my internet isn-t working08:35
sebastianor more like08:35
advershey08:35
sebastianmy browsing08:35
advershow do you install BitchX08:35
sebastianwill someone help?08:35
adversi extracted the files to my dkestop08:35
adversits sudo what?08:36
adverssebastian08:36
adversdo you know08:36
sebastiannope08:36
sebastiani-m in a much worse situation08:36
sebastiani had to install kubuntu after erasing windows accidentally08:36
adversare you doing DHCP08:36
sampanadvers, if you're in konsole (terminal): sudo apt-get install bitchx  will install it.  but you should already have irssi, which is (imho) a better text-only irc client08:37
adversok08:37
adversthanks08:37
sebastiansampan help me08:37
adverswhat is irssi?08:37
adversI dont have that dude08:37
adversI have Konversation08:38
adversand it sucks08:38
adversim on08:38
adverswindows right now08:38
adversmy other comp is on linux08:38
adversi have 2 comps08:38
sampanadvers  irssi is a text-only irc client (like bitchx), and i'm pretty sure you have it installed (by default) on breezy.  in a terminal/konsole type: irssi08:39
sampanit's not a GUI app (neither is bitchx), so it's keyboard and text-only (like bitchx)08:39
adversoh hell no08:39
adversi dont want text only08:39
sebastianhelp08:39
ChousukeNothing wrong with text-only08:39
sampanlol well that's what bitchx is -- and irssi (irssi is what i use myself -- it's an awesome irc client)08:40
Hobbseeadvers: you might be wanting xchat then08:40
adversok08:40
adverswhere do i get that08:40
adversnm08:40
adversi got it08:40
adversbut08:40
adverswhich one do i get08:40
adversthe Fedora Core 3/4?08:40
Chousukeno.08:40
Chousukeuse apt-get08:40
Chousukesudo apt-get install xchat or something08:41
Chousukeor with synaptic08:41
Chousukeif you like GUIs08:41
adversoh wow08:41
advershow useful08:41
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Chousukeheh. That's what I thought the first time I tried APT. :)08:41
kierananyone up for helping me with resolv.conf08:43
fridgeyeah!08:43
kieranok08:44
kieranwhy does it go back to default every time i reboot08:44
fridgeI think some part of the init process is overwriting your changes08:44
kierananyway to prevent that08:44
kierani hate editing it every time just so firefox works08:44
kieran?08:46
fridgedo you use DHCP?08:50
fridgeor PPP?08:50
fridgeit looks like the ppp-dns script overwrites resolv.conf, as would a DHCP call08:50
Tm_Terr08:50
Tm_Tuser can control it08:51
kieranDHCP08:51
kieranhow?08:51
Tm_Tlemme check one thing08:51
kieranit keeps overwriting my resolv.conf file when i reboot08:51
Tm_Thmm, wiki it is08:52
kieranyeah i been looking08:52
kieranbut didnt know quite what i had been looking for08:52
Tm_Thttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/StaticDnsWithDhcp08:52
kierani tried a few things off the ubuntu forum08:52
Tm_TI think that's it08:52
Tm_Tkieran: look that one, prolly all you need08:54
kierani got to the directory08:54
kieranbut that file isnt there08:55
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lance_woah08:55
lance_this is weird08:55
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adversefinally08:55
kieranfound it08:55
Tm_T:p08:55
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adversesampan08:56
adverseu there08:56
sampanindeed08:56
kierandamn08:58
kierancant save it08:58
kieranhow do i get root access to save that file08:58
Chousukesudo nano /file08:58
Tm_Tsudo nano /path/file08:58
Tm_TChousuke: damn, young and fast? ;)08:58
Chousukeuse your own pass for sudo08:58
Chousuke:P08:58
ChousukeI should get going now.08:59
kieranhow do i save it in nano08:59
kierani usually use vim08:59
Tm_Tkieran: ctrl-x and answer yes09:00
Tm_Tquit and save09:00
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kierankieran@linux:~$ sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart09:01
kieran * Reconfiguring network interfaces...                                   [fail] 09:01
Tm_T:o09:01
kierani have some loopback thing happening09:01
kieranwtf is that09:01
kieran:(09:01
vega-hmm09:01
Tm_Tmeh meh09:01
PsySine-hi what is the name of the program that sometimes is started the first time you log in to set things up in some distributions?09:02
Tm_Tkpersonalizer09:02
PsySine-thanks :)09:02
Tm_Thas nothing to do with distribution, it's KDE thing09:02
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Tm_Tanyway, I'm gone for now ->09:03
PsySine-yeah but it only whows in some dists09:03
kierandamn09:03
kieranthis is annoying09:03
ravelhi, I'm using Kubuntu 5.10 (KDE 3.5.0) and trying to get bitmap fonts work with Konsole... it doesn't seem to work the way it should09:03
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Psi-JackIs there a Firefox 1.5 package available?09:04
kieranit's running09:04
kieranhttp://getfirefox.com09:04
kierani can get it to work09:04
ravelI like Konsole but it is very slow with normal truetype/antialiased fonts09:04
kieranonly if i edit /etc/resolv.conf09:04
Hobbsee!firefox1.509:05
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion09:05
kieranwith the DNS settings i set09:05
ravel"Could not install console8x16.pcf.gz into fonts:/Personal/"09:05
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Psi-JackThank ya, Hobbsee09:06
Hobbseeno problems Psi-Jack09:06
kieranyou got no idea about this hobbsee?09:07
Hobbseenope09:07
kierandamn09:07
kierani been lookin all day on the net09:07
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kieranare there any other repositories i can put into my list to find programs that source cant find?09:08
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Hobbseeapart from the stuff in !repos?09:14
kieran!repos09:15
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource09:15
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kieranhow do you lock a file09:16
kieranon ubuntu it says09:16
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kieransudo -w /etc/resolv.conf09:16
kieranbut i get error when i do that09:16
kieranillegal option09:16
Hobbseewhy do you want to lock a file?09:18
Hobbseeah, right09:19
kieranhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=88525&highlight=DNS+problems09:19
kieranthey reckon lock it09:20
kieranso it can be overridden09:20
kieran*cant09:20
kieranno way to lock them?09:24
ftg2kieran: try setting it immutable. man chattr09:25
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kieranok09:26
kieranso code goes09:26
kieransudo chattr -i /etc/resolv.conf09:27
kieransudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf09:27
ftg2now check it with lsattr09:27
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=== Hobbsee notices that thunderbird 1.5 is out
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naliothHobbsee: i am too dumb to build it, (i can't understand the weird mozilla things)09:35
Hobbseelol true - it can be rather a pain09:35
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naliothfirefox builds easily, i dont understand how they have t-bird set up09:36
Hobbseedidnt think it was too difficult, different parameters to firefox though09:37
Hobbseewonder how complex it is09:37
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Hobbseenalioth: sheesh, takes a while to download the sources!09:41
ftg2kieran never returned. i wonder if his resolv.conf issue has been resolved.09:43
sampanftg2  that's the odd part about troubleshooting -- it's hard to know whether they didn't come back because it worked or because it didn't :X09:44
naliothHobbsee: i never could figure out which sources to grab09:46
Hobbseei did the .tar.gz from the main mozilla site, and the ones from dapper repos, to upgrade it09:46
Hobbseei dont expect it to build, but we'll see09:46
Hobbseebut i'd love 1.5 in dapper09:47
naliothenigmail broke with the last security update of t-bird09:47
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Hobbseeseems to work here09:48
naliothi have to gpg my stuff and paste it into tbird now09:48
Hobbseewith 1.0.7, it seems to work09:48
Hobbseenot sure why the breezy one is havign trouble though09:48
Hobbseenalioth: it failed09:54
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naliothHobbsee: i gave up cuz i couldnt tell which sources to d/l09:55
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Psi-JackAnyone know how to get an ATI AiW Radeon 8500's TV Tuner to work? I noticed that Kubuntu's HAL didn't pick it up.09:56
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ftg2sampan: lol, i wish he had come back. i am half tempted to set my own resolv.conf immutable and observe the effect10:10
sampanlol10:10
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sebastianRiddell: cant connect to quaker10:24
sebastian[03:23]  [Error]  Connection to Server irc://irc.quaker.eu.org/ failed. name lookup has failed10:24
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Mezsebastian, another quaker ?10:25
sebastianyes10:26
MezIt seems they're all around me - and I don't know :D10:26
Mezlol10:26
Mez(I've been finding a lot out about quakers after finding my new house mate is one)10:26
sebastianAre you from england?10:27
sebastianor Scotland?10:28
Psi-Jack!thunderbird1.510:28
ubotuPsi-Jack: I haven't a clue10:28
Psi-JackHmm. Drats. heh10:28
sebastianMez:10:28
Mezsebastian, England10:29
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sebastianthere's more chances of finding quakers in england10:29
sebastianthan here in Costa Rica10:29
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Mezsebastian, lol10:31
Riddellsebastian: you seem to be on irc.quaker10:33
sebastianRiddell: and thank god that read not "JOHNY I'M FALLIN!!HELP!"10:34
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weekanghi11:55
weekanghow can i get automounting of usb devices 2 work in kubuntu breezy?11:56
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visik7weekang: it just works12:00
hawkingwhenever I want to load a new keyboard layout with setxkbmap I get this error "Error loading new keyboard description" I think my keyboard layout descriptions are corrupt. what is the package that has the keybord layouts? I should reinstall it.. or does anyone has any other idea?12:01
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weekangvisik7: which directory does it mount my usb drive to?12:02
visik7 /media/usbdisk12:04
weekangdoesn't exist there12:04
weekangmight be because i'm using xfce-desktop though12:04
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weekangbut i started from kubuntu 5.1012:04
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weekangvisik7, do u have any idea?12:07
visik7weekang: have u hal running ?12:07
weekanghow do i check that?12:08
weekanghow can i find out?12:08
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Hobbseeweekang: are you saying that the USB stick doesnt mount in /media/usbdisk, or doesnt show up as an icon on the desktop?12:10
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visik7weekang: ps ax |grep hal12:11
weekang 6783 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/hald12:13
weekang 6788 ?        S      0:00 hald-addon-acpi12:13
weekang 6797 ?        S      0:08 hald-addon-storage12:13
weekang13174 pts/0    R+     0:00 grep hal12:13
weekangHobbsee: both12:13
weekangbut not showing up as icon is ok12:13
weekangsince xfce doesn't not display the contents of a folder on the desktop12:13
weekangit's just not even automounting in /media12:13
Hobbseedoes it show up in mount, at all?12:14
weekangit doesn't12:14
weekangi have 2 mount it myself12:14
kavitrestart hald?12:14
weekangit does appear in /dev/sda though12:14
weekangso at least i can mount it12:14
weekanghow do i restart hald?12:15
weekangkill it first and then run it?12:15
Hobbseeyeah, usually12:15
kavityou could do killall -HUP hald12:15
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weekangok lemme try12:15
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weekangnope still doesn't work12:17
weekangrestarted hald12:17
weekangyeah hobbsee i was wondering about that myself..12:20
weekanganyway thanks guys12:20
weekangeveryone12:20
AdTheRatI've installed kubuntu and it set my root password to be the same as my user password. How do I set the password to be different?12:22
hawkingwhenever I want to load a new keyboard layout with setxkbmap I get this error "Error loading new keyboard description" I think my keyboard layout descriptions are corrupt. what is the package that has the keybord layouts? I should reinstall it.. or does anyone has any other idea?12:22
AdTheRatHmm12:26
weekangAdTheRat: this may break your system, but maybe u can 'sudo su' to make urself root, then 'passwd' to change the password.12:26
weekangbut i think it's not advisable12:26
AdTheRatHmm.. does it by any chance causes some appilcations to go12:26
AdTheRat"temriated with child status (1)"12:26
weekangit may12:26
AdTheRator something similer?12:26
AdTheRatdart12:27
weekangdon't mess with the root password12:27
Psi-Jackweekang: Why would you say it's not advisable to set the root password?12:27
AdTheRatI find it odd.. it's not having the root password different to user account12:28
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Psi-JackI find it not odd, but absolutely INSANE, not to have a root password set. In the example, what if user accounts get disabled/deleted, or is in some way, unable to be retrieved (say over NIS, as an example). Not having a root password set would really cause a problem. :)12:30
AdTheRatPsi, a root password is set12:30
AdTheRatit just the same as my user password12:30
Psi-JackNow that's plain stupid.12:31
AdTheRatwhat I think as well12:31
AdTheRatbut when I insalled it with a root password ifferent to user12:31
AdTheRatsome Adminstrative programs12:31
AdTheRatfalls ovr12:31
weekangpsi-jack: i dunno.. i juz tot ubuntu did it for their own reason12:31
weekangu know12:31
AdTheRatwith some crap about Child Status (1)12:31
weekangsince u're using that distro12:31
Psi-JackAdTheRat: Umm.. You actually sudo'd to root, to run passwd?12:31
weekangu shld follow what the creators did12:32
weekangi dunno12:32
weekangif they wanted to let u have a different root password easily12:32
weekangthey would have asked u12:32
weekangit's just my feeling12:32
Psi-Jackweekang: Yes. They didn't want to ask for the root password during installation. And for users to have direct access to root, ALL the time. It's a newbie thing. And quite honestly, it's a good start.12:32
AdTheRatbut not a hugely secure way thou, Psi?12:32
Psi-JackAdTheRat: Actually, in a way, it's more secure. Unless problems arrise locally. :)12:33
weekangwell users do have access to root12:33
weekangsince the password is the same12:33
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Psi-JackAdTheRat: I want to know.. First off, did you explicitely set the root password to the same as your user password?12:34
weekangpsi: that is the case by default12:34
Psi-Jackweekang: root has a disabled password, after initial install.12:34
weekangin a default install of kubunu or ubuntu12:35
weekangreally?12:35
Psi-JackYou cannot exlusively login as root, until you manually change the password.12:35
Psi-Jacksudo su, for example, is asking for YOUR password, not root's.12:35
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Psi-JackAs for that really. Yes, really. :)12:36
weekangok12:36
weekanghere12:36
weekanghttp://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:meok2Pk9Yj0J:www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root+create+root+account+ubuntu&hl=en&client=firefox12:36
weekang"The root account is disabled when you first install Ubuntu. The first user created during the installation has administrative rights on the system, and can run programs as root with sudo, using only their normal user password. For example: sudo apt-get update.12:37
weekangIf you wish to use the root account in more traditional UNIX fashion, you can set the root password by typing sudo passwd root. This will allow you to use su or login as root on the console.12:37
weekangIf you need a shell with root privileges, run sudo -s.12:37
weekangAll uses of sudo will require the user's password."12:37
weekangmight be useful, found from google but only exists in cache12:37
weekangoops12:37
weekangdid i cause netsplit?12:37
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Psi-Jackweekang: Did you DOS attack freenode's network? :)12:38
weekangheh12:38
weekanganyway12:38
weekangi think12:38
weekangsudo passwd root12:38
weekangwill create a root account12:38
Psi-JackRight.12:38
Psi-JackI could have told you that. IN fact. I think I did say something about it earlier. :)12:38
AdTheRatwhat did I miss in the netspilt?12:38
weekangoh wait12:38
weekangi guess that's for adtherat12:39
weekangheh12:39
weekangi tot u were him12:39
AdTheRatI got caugh in the netspilt ^^;12:39
Psi-JackLOL12:39
AdTheRatso I've missed everything after..12:39
AdTheRat<AdTheRat> just explain, cause I'm coming from different Linux build a long time ago and hearing why root password should be diferent to user password :P12:39
weekangadtherat: sudo passwd root12:39
weekangbut i'm wondering12:40
weekangafter one creates a root account with a different password12:40
weekangwill sudo on the user account require the user password or the root password?12:40
weekangit gets confusing12:40
AdTheRatsudo requires root password12:40
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weekangadtherat: i think ubuntu may have different behavior12:41
weekangwhat do u think psi-jack12:41
AdTheRatPsi-Jack, just wondering if you could explain how having the password the same on Kubuntu would mean it be more secure?12:42
Psi-JackAdTheRat: Eh?12:42
AdTheRat<Psi-Jack> AdTheRat: Actually, in a way, it's more secure. Unless problems arrise locally. :)12:42
Psi-JackAdTheRat: No, sudo requires YOUR own password.12:42
Psi-JackNot root's.12:42
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AdTheRatbut I thought sudo does root adminstations.. ouu...12:43
Psi-JackYes. Your /own/ user's password.12:43
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weekangyes see12:43
AdTheRatI think I'm starting to understand..12:43
weekangit's abit weird on ubuntu12:43
Psi-JackAdTheRat: It does. sudo is a great tool. :)12:43
Psi-Jackweekang: No, it's not wierd. This is standard.12:43
weekangreally?12:43
Psi-JackUhh yeah...12:43
weekangsudo always requires ur own password?12:43
Psi-JackYou could actually make it NOT require a password at all, with sudo.12:44
Psi-JackWith configuration changes to sudoers.conf. :)12:44
weekangi tot it was just a convenient shortcut for first su then execute the program12:44
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weekangon other distros of linux esp12:44
weekanganyway12:44
weekangmy usb drive also shows up on lsusb12:44
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Psi-JackIt's just /really/ good practice to use root only when necessary.12:44
weekangok12:45
weekangi just don't see it automounted anywhere12:45
weekanganyone got any advice?12:45
AdTheRatHmmmm, ok, so what is sudo do, really?12:45
AdTheRatit's that like, if my user account have root permission... it lets me do roots stuff with sudo instead of having to log in as root?12:46
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hawkinganyone who can do me a favor?12:47
hawkingmy keyboard layouts are corrupt can someone send me the directory /etc/X11/xkb ?12:47
hawkingI'll really appreciate12:47
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jamzedHi.12:49
weekangbtw12:49
weekangdoes anyone know if grub can be uninstalled from the MBR?12:50
AdTheRatthat would scare me..12:50
AdTheRatpersonally, I would just install differnent boot loader rather then uninstall a boot loader12:50
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weekangbtw12:52
weekangdoes anyone know if grub can be uninstalled from the MBR?12:52
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Psi-JackHmmm.. Does K/ubuntu not install ide-scsi for use for cdrecord, by default?12:55
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DocTomoewhere would the right channel fr dapper development be?12:58
robotgeekDocTomoe: you want to develop or just want support?12:58
DocTomoerobotgeek: I am actively betatesting, and there seems to be a serious problem with glibc in the current state12:59
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hawkingDoes anyone know what package creates /etc/X11/xkb?12:59
DocTomoerobotgeek: no, I do not want to file a bug report virtually nobody reads on launchpad12:59
robotgeekDocTomoe: that's not true, however if you go to #ubuntu-devel, they might not respond.01:00
robotgeekDocTomoe: best bet is to go in there, and ping someone in there and #ubuntu, and ask them in #ubuntu01:00
robotgeekraphink meet DocTomoe :)01:01
DocTomoek01:01
raphinkhi robotgeek01:01
raphinkhi DocTomoe01:01
DocTomoehi raphink01:01
robotgeekhey raphink, he has a dapper glibc question01:01
raphinkok01:02
raphinklet's see if I can answer it01:02
raphink:s01:02
DocTomoelol, here I go01:02
DocTomoeI am using an up-to-date dapper kubuntu01:02
raphinkmhm01:02
DocTomoewhenever I try to enter something in konquerors address bar, it freezes and crashes soon thereafter01:02
DocTomoemartin@haguchan:~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror$ konqueror01:03
DocTomoe*** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list: 0x4033d278 ***01:03
DocTomoeAlarm clock01:03
DocTomoethat is the message that konqueror gives me at crashing.01:03
raphinkwhen did that begin?01:03
DocTomoeabout 4 hours ago01:03
raphinkhmm01:03
AdTheRathmmm..01:03
raphinkok I guess I should update my box and try ;)01:03
AdTheRatthe things that make the world go round.01:04
DocTomoeI especially find that "alarm clock" message interesting.01:05
DocTomoeraphink: deleting ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/*history* seemed to work for about 30 minutes, now, I have the exactly same problem.01:06
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igorayebI have a problem when i install the kubuntu in a iMAC!01:09
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hawkingsetxkbmap tr gives Error loading keyboard description How can i fix that?01:29
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djibhello01:37
djibhow can I configure where KDE mounts usb drivec01:37
djibbecause it sometimes mounts it to /media/sda1 and sometimes /media/usbdisc01:37
djibit's annoying01:38
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dark_suicdjib, most probably it will mount sometimes on media:/sda1 and other times in /media/usbdisk (i think, may be wrong)01:39
dark_suicbut you'd probalby can access it from both ways01:39
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dark_suicbut if you want to edit the /media place, just edit (with sudo) /etc/fstab01:40
nalioth!kdesu01:40
ubotuhmm... kdesu is :Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you  have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater "01:40
naliothdark_suic: please be more specific01:40
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naliothsudo + kde_gui_app = mangled permissions01:41
naliothuse kdesu + kde_gui_app  (and sudo in the konsole for console apps)01:41
dark_suicnalioth, i said sudo because i edit them with vi :P01:42
dark_suicand i've just got home from classes :P01:42
naliothdark_suic: understood. but this is a general help channel, and some might take your advice and 'sudo kate' (which causes permissions mangling)01:42
dark_suicyep, sorry :) i'm just used to sudo and just never did anything with kdesu (not writing kdesu i mean :P)01:44
dark_suic(just because i think that for root privileges is better editing them in console... :P)01:44
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naliothdark_suic: we help all kinds of people here, some very new to *nix  ;)01:48
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dark_suicyeah, i know, i try to help when i can :P01:50
dark_suicwell, going to eat something, see you :)01:50
naliothenjoy your meal, i'm going to sleep01:51
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fatbrainhi, is there a way I could re-install the boot-loader?02:05
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dark_suicfatbrain, you mean grub?02:15
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fatbraindark_suic: yes02:18
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dark_suicsudo apt-get install --reinstall grub02:23
dark_suicshould work02:23
dark_suicbye02:23
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fatbraindark_suic: thanks02:25
fatbrain(now I just have to figure out how to boot my computer so I sudo apt-get it)02:26
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skriptif I install 'gnome' packange in kubuntu, will it automatically change my default window manager to Gnome or will it keep KDE as default ?02:37
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visik7where can I find FF and TB 1.5 packages ?02:48
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masemy amarok keeps telling me the sound device is in use by another application, but its not, how can i force it to play?02:49
maseor atleast kill the other application thats "using" it ?02:49
visik7alt+f4 :)02:49
maseno, doesnt work02:49
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maseanyone know?02:50
buscommandoWhy doesn't adept have the newest firefox?02:51
visik7buscommando: 'couse FF 1.5 isn't in breezy02:52
visik7buscommando: check02:52
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visik7buscommando: check the wiki on howto install FF 1.5 on ubuntu02:53
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buscommandothank you visik702:55
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masehow can i check which application is using my sound device?03:14
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fit4lfeI have a vmware error that I want to address what is the nearest pastebin >?03:27
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Sarkiehi03:51
Sarkiefor some reason adept loads then closes everytime i try and run it03:51
Sarkieany ideas on how to fix it?03:51
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kkathmanSarkie have you recently installed?03:53
Sarkiea while a go03:53
Sarkiei had ubuntu03:53
Sarkiethen loaded kubuntu03:53
Sarkiehavent used it in a while03:53
kkathmanSarkie: when you say you "loaded" kubuntu...how did you do that?03:53
Sarkieinstalled the kunbtu-desktop package03:54
kkathmanok03:54
kkathmansince you installed, have you made changes to your sources.list?03:54
Sarkienope all orig03:54
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kkathmanok I wonder if you might paste a copy of your sources.list and let me look at it03:55
kkathmanpaste it to the paste.ubuntu-nl.org03:55
Sarkietwo seconds then03:55
Sarkieyeah its loading03:55
Sarkiehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/700303:57
kkathmanSarkie: ok they look ok to me03:58
fit4lfehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/700403:58
kkathmanSarkie: could you please type this in a konsole and tell me what returns  ps aux | grep adept03:59
Sarkiefit4lfe, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare?highlight=%28vmware%2903:59
Sarkiesarkie   10448  0.0  0.0   2932   636 pts/2    R+   14:59   0:00 grep adept04:00
kkathmanSarkie aha!04:00
Sarkiestill running04:00
kkathmanyou have a running version04:00
kkathmanyes04:00
kkathmanthats why it starts then quits04:00
Sarkiewhich ones the the psid number04:00
kkathmancuz its still running04:00
kkathman1044804:01
kkathmanodd that it would still be running, but it happens I suppose04:01
fit4lfethx04:01
fit4lfehelps alot04:01
Sarkiefit4lfe, its ok used it before04:01
Sarkiehmm kkathman can you give me the switch for kill,04:02
kkathmanSarkie:  should be just kill <pid>04:02
Sarkiehmm04:03
Sarkieodd04:03
Sarkiejust did grep04:03
Sarkieits changed04:03
Sarkieisnt that saying its showing itself?04:04
Sarkieps aux | grep adept04:04
Sarkieeverytime i run it the pid changes04:04
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kkathmanSarkie: ohh04:05
kkathmanif the process is 'grep adept'  then its just showing your grep command :)   I see04:05
kkathmanI misread up above04:06
kkathmanI apologize04:06
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Sarkieits ok, i thought so, but i use Sun Unix since its old, mite be updated04:07
kkathmanSarkie: usually, adept returns without running only if the sources.list doesnt exist (which is not true) or its currently running...which doesnt seem to be the case.04:08
kkathmanSarkie:  so, we have something very unusual I think04:08
Sarkierather04:08
kkathmanare you running adept, or adept updater?04:08
Sarkieadept04:08
kkathmanhmmm04:08
Sarkiecan i run it from konsole then it update some stuff04:09
kkathmanyou can try, and you might get some trace, yes04:09
kkathmansudo adept should do it04:09
Sarkiethat worked :S04:10
kkathmanahh good....could have been a lock that needed to get reset04:10
Sarkiei just need all my plugins, kate, eclipse,04:10
Sarkiewhats kde version of gedit?04:10
kkathmangedit isnt a kde program04:11
kkathmanits gnome04:11
kkathmanohh wait04:11
kkathmanhehe its kate04:11
Sarkiereally04:11
Sarkiepff04:11
Sarkiekates a bit over the top some times04:11
Sarkieso do like to read what you like to dont you :P04:12
kkathmankwrite is ok04:12
kkathmanbut kate is nice..and full featured04:12
kkathmanits more than gedit, yes04:12
Sarkieyeah i like it :P04:12
kkathmanbut if you have gnome and kubuntu, you can use gedit with no probs04:12
kkathmanI do04:13
visik7anybody know where is the setting of Konsole to not to close it when bash ended ?04:13
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Sarkiewell thanx alot im offski04:18
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cello_raspcan anyone tell me, does komba allow the user to mount a samba share to the filesystem?04:20
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DizzyDizHello everyone04:24
DizzyDizI got a question04:24
DizzyDizI installed the gxine plugin for firefox and nowI can't seem to get rid of it04:24
DizzyDizI've deleted all symbolic links from my plugins folder04:24
fit4lfewhat is the easiest way to upgrade to firefox 1.5 ?04:25
DizzyDizI re-installed mplayer links04:25
DizzyDizAnd it still tries to load up when I open an mp3 file over with firefox04:25
DizzyDizIf I uninstall it I can't get any of my other plugins to work (totem-xine, mplayer, kaffine, whatever.04:26
DizzyDizCan somebody help me?04:27
visik7how can see h264 ?04:27
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DizzyDizInsterestingly enough, I tried getting rid of my profile and starting with a new profile and the new profile doesn't see any plugins.04:28
DizzyDizNot even gxine04:28
DizzyDizBut I bet if I restore my old profile gxine will be the default media handler04:28
DizzyDizWhat gives?04:28
andrzejsomebody have a repo with thunderbird 1.5?04:29
DizzyDizDo I have to re-install Firefox?04:29
DizzyDizIf so is there a deb of deerpark somewhere that I can grab?04:29
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DizzyDizAnybody else have a prblem getting rid of the gxine plugin?04:37
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Tm_Tnah04:39
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Tm_Tsudo apt-get remove gxine helps, I think04:39
kkathmanhowdy Tm_T :)04:39
Tm_Thullo04:40
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mcscruffis there a command to see the temperature of my pc?04:52
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DizzyDizSorry TM_T I just saw that... I already tried removing gxine04:57
kkathmanmcscruf yes04:58
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kkathmanmcscruff cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature04:59
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mcscruffkkathman, i ended up just installing a system tray thing that tells me :(05:05
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BuZzYhow good is postnuke?05:29
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DizzyDizOk I just reinstalled firefox deer park and at first the gxine plugin stopped loading...05:38
DizzyDizThen when I restored my profile folder the problem came back05:38
DizzyDizApparently gxine sets something under your profile folder to register itself as the default media handler and I can't figure out what it is.05:39
DizzyDizWhat's the easiest way to search all files in a directory heirarchy for the occurrences of the text gxine?05:40
DizzyDizI'm not good enough at the command line to hack up a command.05:40
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DizzyDizI FOUND IT!!!05:46
DizzyDizThat sneaky gxine app snuck a symbolic link into my ~/.mozilla/plugins folder!05:47
DizzyDizI'll never touch that again.05:47
DizzyDizThanx everyone for your help05:47
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yellowdartDIzzyDiz, you can also change the actual protocol handler in ~/.mozilla/firefox/*/prefs.js ...check this out (sure it's not for ubuntu, but it still works) http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Firefox_Settings05:50
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yellowdartI'm having a problem with Kmail, trying to use IMAP but my filters wont work...can anybody help?05:54
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eldnarIs there a way to turn off the messages when people enter/leave the room?06:12
eldnarin irc?  I'm using GAIM06:12
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ztonzyhey :)06:14
ztonzyanyone know and reason why the built in webcam driver(Spca5xx) in Kubuntu (breezy) always freezy entire system? and how can I remove the drivers or deselect them in installstage and then to install the latest and original one06:17
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^archer^ciao, scusate l'intrusione ma sto cercando di imparare la chat06:21
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dandielionoushello06:23
dandielionousDo any of you know what "~" means before a file?06:23
ztonzy^archer^, sorry ?06:23
neoncodeHey I have 2 HD's in my computer one has linux on it but I want to reformat the other. What apps are there to reformat this other drive, prefrably grapical.06:23
ztonzyI guess this is a chat with english language :)06:23
ztonzyno one has any answer on cam driver ?06:24
dandielionousAs far as I know ztonzy .06:24
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ztonzydandielionous, :)06:24
dandielionousI'm sorry I don't know about the cam driver.  But I believe the chat is in English.06:24
dandielionous:)06:24
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ztonzydandielionous, ah...you missed my question, Spca5xx is the driver, built in, in Breezy, ever since Breezy came it freezes system when I try to use it06:25
^archer^come si fa registarrsi?06:25
ztonzydandielionous, not when seperate installed how ever06:25
ztonzy^archer^, try english :)06:25
dandielionousThat's odd.06:26
dandielionousYes I just came in ztonzy .06:26
tech9inermoin mates.. ;] 06:26
dandielionousI was looking for information about editing the font in gaim.06:26
ztonzydandielionous, yes, it works with my creative nx pro webcam actually...the driver from its site06:26
ztonzytech9iner, hi06:26
dandielionousIt keeps telling me that there is a file that starts with ~.06:26
dandielionousI think there are some invisible files.06:26
ztonzyhttp://mxhaard.free.fr/index.html <--- the source06:27
dandielionousI can find the files if I know specifically where they are.06:27
dandielionousIn my terminal window.06:27
dandielionousBut I"m not finding the file that I'm looking for to edit.06:27
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dandielionousBecause it seems those files are invisible.06:27
ztonzydandielionous, tried that too...it is difficult to change such settings in gaim :-\06:27
tech9inerdid i asked yet.. [aye ztonzy ;] ] .. is there http/ftp install sources available for kubuntu please?.. got old toughbook with unstable dvd/cd drive too tweaky for iso install media.. thanks06:27
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zixhi all06:28
DjDarkmanhy ,i need a program for mounting all types of cd images ,please recomend me some06:28
dandielionousI was able to edit the font from vim.06:28
zixhow to switch back to ubuntu from kubuntu?06:28
DjDarkmanzix: sudo apt-get install kde06:28
ztonzytech9iner, sorry I dont get what you want to say06:28
DjDarkmanoups06:28
dandielionousBut I'm not finding the program that has the font settings for anything other than what I can do from gaim itself.06:28
tech9inerztonzy: just hi to you is all.. question for all ;] ] 06:28
ztonzytech9iner, ah06:28
ztonzy:)06:29
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DjDarkmani need a program for mounting all types of cd images ,please recomend me some06:29
tech9inerneeding alternate way to install kubuntu iso via network please06:29
ztonzytech9iner,is this what you mean ;) ?  http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php06:29
dandielionousI'm wondering if there is some way to see the files that start with ~.06:30
dandielionousSo I could edit that program for gaim.06:30
zixhow to switch back to ubuntu from kubuntu?06:31
tech9inerztonzy: mate.. needing http or ftp install or network install process.. ive already downloaded the iso mate.. thanks for feedback though ;] 06:31
dandielionousSo I could find that program in my terminal window.06:31
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ztonzydandielionous, tried ' locate ~* '  ??06:31
dandielionouskewl ty ztonzy.06:31
ztonzydandielionous, might be good too to do: ' sudo updatedb '   first06:32
ztonzyalso06:32
dandielionousnothing with the locate command.06:32
skriptxdpyinfo says my 1024x768 res is at 72x72 dpi... is that ok ? shouldn't it be something like 75x75 or 96x96 ?06:33
zixhow to switch back to ubuntu from kubuntu?06:33
ztonzydandielionous, do ' sudo updatedb ' so it updates the locate database06:33
yellowdarttech9iner, when you are installing via CD/DVD does it fail half-way through?? i had a similar problem installing on an Inspiron 8000. had to use 5.04 media and dist-upgrade06:33
DjDarkmanzix: did you originaly installed ubuntu?06:33
ztonzyzix, depends how you mean, different wm or system ?06:33
dandielionoussays I can't do that ztonzy .06:33
zixDjDarkman: yup.06:33
ztonzydandielionous, weird06:33
dandielionousupdateb command not found.06:33
ztonzydandielionous, not sudo either ?06:34
DjDarkmanzix: than you should select gnome in the login06:34
dandielionousin sudo06:34
ztonzydandielionous, db  not b06:34
zixkde messes gnome all up06:34
dandielionousokay06:34
yellowdarttech9iner: also, i had to remove the cd from sources.list06:34
tech9ineryellowdart: ur not telling me what i want to hear chum!! lol.. yes bout halfway thru starts failing install file access.. an i had already installed 504 and upgraded to kubuntu.. couple of bug implied clean install06:34
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DjDarkmanzix: then remove it06:34
zixDjDarkman: i'm asking how.06:34
dandielionousJust gives me my command line back now.06:35
DjDarkmanzix: sudo apt-get remove kde06:35
DjDarkmanor from synaptic06:35
zixthat's not the whole package06:35
ztonzydandielionous, okey, blank ?06:35
zixi need whole kubuntu gone06:35
zixbut that's a metapackage..06:35
zix>.<06:35
dandielionousMy command prompt after I typed sudo updatedb ztonzy .06:35
ztonzydandielionous, you did "sudo updatedb"06:35
ztonzyok06:35
dandielionousYes just blank.06:35
dandielionousyes.06:35
dandielionousThen I tried locate again.06:35
dandielionousJust gives my back my prompt.06:35
ztonzydandielionous, then do:  ' locate ~* '06:35
bobesponjai don't know if it's too late for drapper but please consider using showimg instead of gwenview, it's faster and has better features seehttp://www.jalix.org/projects/showimg/06:35
tech9ineroh well.. gotta run now anyhoo.. tanx for 'bean' here me new kMates ;] ] 06:36
bobesponjahttp://www.jalix.org/projects/showimg/06:36
dandielionousDo I need the single quotes?06:36
ztonzydandielionous, sorry, I am in XP :P06:36
dandielionousggggrrrrr06:36
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dandielionouslol06:36
ztonzydandielionous, no, they are just showing what to type in terminal06:36
dandielionousSorry ztonzy I'm in kubuntu.06:36
DjDarkmani need a program for mounting all types of cd images ,please recomend me some06:36
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ztonzydandielionous, well, I am in the one in the wrong OS !06:37
ztonzyheeh06:37
dandielionousI thought locate in windows located your cursor.06:37
zixargh06:37
zixwhy is everybody ignoring me?06:37
dandielionousThat's okay ztonzy .06:37
dandielionouszix hello06:37
dandielionouslol06:37
zixhi06:37
zix:o06:37
yellowdartzix: i'm guessing that if you use synaptic in gnome then you can select "remove-completely"06:37
ztonzydandielionous, 'locate'  is a command finding files in a linux terminal06:37
zixyellowdart: i can't go on GNOME bcuz that's messed up even with GDM06:38
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dandielionousOkay well I notice sometimes people give me commands that don't necessarily work on my computer ztonzy .06:38
zixthe installation of kubuntu changes some things06:38
ztonzydandielionous, it SHOULD work :)06:38
zixand i'd like to have those back06:38
zix:S06:38
dandielionousI don't know if that has to do with updates or versions of kubuntu or what.06:38
kkathmanwhat commands?06:38
aronhi ... i need some help with rosegarden06:39
yellowdartzix: you can't change the session to gnome in KDM?06:39
zixyellowdart: yes i can06:39
zixbut it messes GNOME all over just like in GDM06:39
kkathmandandielionous:  which commands might you be talking about?06:39
zixit uses KDE skins, uses the kde clock applet, stuff like that06:39
ztonzydandielionous, I would like to know myself why the webcam driver in Breezy doesnt work! messes up my system, systemfreeze...how to remove it completly or deselect at install-stage06:39
dandielionouslocate works when I type in gaim ztonzy same as find does.06:39
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aron hi ... i need some help with rosegarden06:39
dandielionousI'm trying to find the gaim files that start with ~.06:39
ztonzythen I can go back into Kubuntu and test new kopete06:39
ztonzydandielionous, ok06:40
yellowdartzix: you should be able to kill those processes in the system monitor06:40
aron hi ... i need some help with rosegarden06:40
zixok06:40
ztonzydandielionous, in user folders ?06:40
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kkathmandandielionous: do a little research on locate and find    man  locate   and    man find    you'll find there is a significant difference06:40
ztonzydandielionous, or lib ?06:40
slow-motionhallo06:40
aronanyone ???06:40
dandielionousty for the advice kkathman  I'm just getting used to those commands.06:40
dandielionousI'm getting braver over here.06:41
dandielionouslol06:41
dandielionousI'm trying to edit the font for gaim.06:41
nlindbladhello kkathman06:41
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arondoes anyone here know anything about rosegarden ???06:41
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kkathmandandielionous: not a problem..in general commands should work on all linux versions, but the results may differ, of course :)06:41
DjDarkmani need a program for mounting all types of cd images ,please recomend me some06:41
kkathmanhi nlindblad06:41
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dandielionousI can't find ~/.gtkrc-2.0 this file.06:42
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iantecwhich audio player can stream from the net?06:42
dandielionousI can find some ~ files.06:42
aronthen im gone again ... thanx for the help guys06:42
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dandielionousBut they are invisible and I have to know almost exactly where they are in order to find them.06:42
kkathmanuhm  ~  refers to your home directory...its not part of the filename :)06:42
dandielionousI have to be in the correct directory.06:43
Tm_Tiantec: can play stream or broadcast stream?06:43
ztonzynlindblad, your name sounds swedish :)06:43
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ztonzynlindblad, hi btw ... or "hej" :)06:43
dandielionousWhen I was in my home directory and typed cd ~ I change to an invisible gaim directory.06:43
dandielionousSorry not giving the complete command.06:44
ztonzydandielionous, all directorys which starts with .folder   is invisible06:44
ztonzyI ment dot06:44
kkathmandandielionous: what is this file supposed to do?06:44
dandielionousHow do I see those directories?06:44
dandielionousIt controls the font for gaim.06:44
kkathmandandielionous:  gaim files are in your home directory under .gaim06:44
ztonzydandielionous, do:  ls .*  in homedirectory06:44
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dandielionousNot what I can set in preferences.06:44
nlindbladztonzy: yepp, I'm Swedish06:44
ztonzynlindblad, nice, I am too06:45
kkathmandandielionous: I have no such file in my system, and I use gaim06:45
nlindbladztonzy: roligt06:45
kkathmandandielionous: are you sure you have the correct name of the file?06:45
dandielionousdandielionous@dandielionous:~$06:45
ztonzynlindblad, jo :)  ...but your connection looks otherwhise...and mine is cloaked06:45
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Tm_Tnlindblad: swedish... hyrrrr06:46
Tm_T;)06:46
dandielionousOkay that sounds about right that they were under ~/.06:46
Tm_Tnlindblad: hur mr du?06:46
iantechmmm. sorry but im new to linux.... the way winamp can play from internet radio06:46
ztonzyTm_T, mr*06:46
Tm_Tztonzy: aye, typo06:46
Tm_Tfingers hurts, so can'06:47
Tm_Tt type well06:47
ztonzyokej06:47
kkathmandandielionous: thats what I indicated earlier :)06:47
Tm_T...as you can see06:47
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Tm_Ttoo much work06:47
dandielionousI got this ~/.gtkrc-2.0 from here http://gaim.sourceforge.net/faq.php#q1806:47
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dandielionousWell you are making things clearer kkathman.06:48
dandielionousBut I still can't find that file to edit it.06:48
eldnarAnyone here use GAIM for Kbuntu?06:48
nlindbladTm_T: bara bra, sjlv?06:48
dandielionousAnd find or locate does not seem to find that file.06:48
kkathmandandielionous: there is no such file as you indicated06:48
kkathmaneldnar: yes I do06:48
dandielionousOkay I guess I can stop driving myself crazy then.06:48
dandielionousty kkathman .06:49
Tm_Tnlindblad: bra tack06:49
dandielionousSo do you know which file controls the font for gaim?06:49
Tm_Tnlindblad: btw I'm finnish and that was almost all I can speak swedish :p06:49
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kkathmani wont say that the file doesnt exist... but the file doesnt exist on my system at least06:49
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Tm_Tok, I'm off ->06:50
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kkathmaneldnar: what do you need regarding GAIM on Kubuntu?06:50
Tm_TKopete <306:50
Tm_TI was going away ->06:51
iantecwhat are you guys using to listen to internet radio?06:51
ztonzyTm_T, kde 3.5 ?06:51
dandielionousOkay well thanks for the help.06:52
dandielionousI think I have a little bit to go on.06:52
ztonzybrb06:54
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e_machinistWhen I install kubuntu-desktop metapackage is there any easy way to remove all the gnome stuff afterwords?07:00
JohnFluxe_machinist: unless you are short on diskspace, don't bother07:00
JohnFluxe_machinist: and the answer is there is no easy way that I know of07:01
JakubSremove gtk07:01
JohnFluxhah, yeah that would do it07:01
e_machinistJakubS: haha, yah, that would work. Didn't think of that.07:01
JohnFluxJakubS: hey JakubS07:01
JakubShello07:02
melonipoikahi guys, can anyone help me with my wireless? i'm getting crazy, it is dissconfiguring automaticly!07:02
JohnFluxJakubS: for zeroconf:/     is it possible to display an html page if there's no files?07:02
melonipoikai use a wireless card to get access to the internet trough another computer, that is connected to the adsl modem07:02
JohnFluxJakubS: people get confused when they do zeroconf:/  or remote:/   and see nothing at all07:02
e_machinistSo the gnome "system" (if you will) stuff won't even load if I use the KDM? (I just want to make sure I'm not using more resources than necessary is all)07:02
JohnFluxJakubS: I hate blank screens myself ;)07:02
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JohnFluxJakubS: a message (not a popup)  saying "No machines with zeroconf support were detected"07:03
JohnFluxJakubS: or whatever07:03
JakubSi wonder, kioslave would get listDir() request and then?07:04
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JakubSioslave only responds to requests made by app, it cannot just push some data by itself07:04
JohnFluxJakubS: for kde4, I'm thinking that the konqueror that displays icons etc  should be changed so if there's no files then it calls another function to get an (optional) html page which it then renders07:06
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wolkihi!07:09
wolkii'm playing a bit with kde for the first time in ages... is there a way to have it stop opening everything in the same konqueror window?07:10
wolkiUsing kde3.5, btw07:10
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wolkiand how can I make it show a label for the k menu? i've seen on screenshots that it's possible, and have found some instructions on kicker hacks, but I don't really get them ^^;;07:12
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Teknokidhello all!07:28
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e_machinistHolla Teknokid07:29
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Teknokidlong time listener, first time caller...07:29
ninnghizidhaasd07:29
Teknokidplaying with kubuntu, so far so good, I'm very very new.....07:30
RickKnightCan anyone here help with ipw2200?07:30
e_machinistgood to hear.07:30
Teknokidany tips as to where I canresearch how to get my dlink dwl-g650 card to work?07:30
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e_machinistheh.07:31
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tech9inerso mates.. am i wasting time here please.. kubuntu's burned iso install disc seems stuck bout 8 mins now on 75% 'Installing the kernel - retrieving and installing kubuntu-artwork-usplash...' ?.. no hdd lite activity confirmation.. cddrive lite no activity?.. did my 4th!!! attempt at kubuntu isntallation with fresh, better quality cdrw [3rd burn attempt! ;[]  media.. likewise fail please?07:36
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tech9inerk .. diff tact then mates.. please o course ;] .. what is the 'base install' please?.. does it include gui desktop?.. or command line operations only?.. thinking maybe base install to just getit on board FINally!.. then upgrade via synaptic or aptget to full kubuntu?07:39
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wolkitech9iner: what base install do you mean? the server install?07:41
tech9ineraye wolki07:41
tech9inerwaaay too many hours to install new distro for sure ;[07:41
wolkithat one is command line only. but it's not that hard to install a graphical desktop from there07:42
wolkitech9iner: sounds more like a cd that's broken07:42
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tech9inercoolness.. prolly no synaptic for this gui-dependent foo.. but apt-get prolly on basic?07:42
wolkinever installed kubuntu itself (only ubuntu, just here for some questions really)07:42
wolkiyes07:42
wolkisudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop07:43
wolkifor kde, ubuntu-desktop for gnome07:43
tech9ineryea wolki .. sadly ive tried 3 diff iso burns.. varified checksums.. blah blah.. but every attempt.. SANS me 1st ubuntu 5.0.4 then aptget upgrade to buggy kubuntu.. was me only completion route of kubuntu experience thusfar chum.. raises ?'s bout k sadly..07:44
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wolkimight be a good idea to "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" first and remove the cd so it'll get everything from the repos07:44
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wolkitech9iner: tried lower speeds? heard that can cause problems sometimes... never did for me, though07:45
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tech9inerthanks for feedback wolki ;] .. appreciated muchly guv.. great pt on removing cd source.. tanx that ;] 07:45
wolkitech9iner: you're welcome :)07:46
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JohnFluxWhen I press the multimedia keys on my laptop, they do nothing.  xev doesn't see them, dmesg doesn't see them, nothing sees them07:48
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yellowdarttech9iner: like i said, my install on my inspiron 8000 was buggy so i had to do 5.04 and remove the cdrom from /apt/sources.list07:53
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yellowdarttech9iner: then i did a dist-upgrade07:53
tech9ineryellowdart: is that wy my k was buggy after i aptget upgraded to it from u 5.0.4 install?.. thanks btw 4 input..07:53
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yellowdarttech9iner: did you remove the cdrom from your sources.list? I found that was the main problem i was running into07:54
tech9inerjhchrist!.. cant even seem to complete base install.. damn.. pitiful indeed07:55
kenzuHI07:55
kkathmantech9iner:  what seems to be the issue on install07:55
tech9inerno i didnt know bout this advisory till today yellowdart sadly..07:55
JakubSJohnFlux: maybe you need some acpi module07:56
kenzuhi07:56
tech9inerkkathman: cant seem to complete direct from iso burned cd thusfar guv?.. never completes here.. even base cli only install is locked up as i type this.. ;[[[07:56
yellowdarttech9iner: i didnt find it anywhere either...it was just a "shot-in-the-dark" that I tried and now my lappy works great07:56
kkathmanhmm sounds possibly like a bad disk maybe?  I dunno... I've installed it 4 times with no insance07:56
kkathmanor error07:57
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tech9inerone would think yellowdart that since you and 2 other chaps have advised same.. it'd be all over install tips eh?..07:57
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tech9inerkkathman: sadly.. ive burned it 3x to 3 diff brands/quality cdrw's chum.. all to failure.. and MORE! grey hair ;] ] 07:58
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kkathmantech9iner: hmm... do you get errors on install, or what?  Where does it stop?07:59
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tech9inerdiff steps.. just now im looking over at base [server]  install [and 5th overall! ;[]  attempt.. screen flashing ea second but stuck on line 'kernel_thread_helper_0x5/0xb' and cd lite is nonactive.. hdd lite likewise.. ;[[08:01
kkathmantech9iner:  Is this ubuntu or kubuntu?   Have you tried a LiveCD ?08:02
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AoPMy HDD light doesnt work at all on linux08:02
tech9inerHENCE wy i was asking over an over here and #u for http/ftp install sources.. this old old cf-71 toughbook has unstable dvd/cdrom drive.. but aparently of all main distros.. u/k dont offer http / ftp install sources/mirrors SADly..08:03
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tech9inerlivecd kkathman ?.. yes.. booted up fine.. slow as hell on this old Pll 366 / 128ram of course.. but booted n ran sluggishly but ran stable..08:04
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kkathmantech9iner: I would do tech9iner  Ok  good to know that.   While the sources.list is critical after install, its not particularly critical DURING the install and that CDROM reference is absolutely mandatory during install08:05
wolkiis there a way to make konqueror stop oening everything in the same window?08:05
kkathmanoops hehe hang over from another line08:05
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naliothwolki: i'm sure there is a ctrl- or shift- click combination08:06
kkathmanwhat you might try...if possible, is to use your install disk on another machine...to verify the disk..though after 3 tries I'd thing you'd get one right :)08:06
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damnhilDoes anyone have KDE logout problems such as popping up a lot of dialogs saying program crashed?08:06
kkathmantech9iner:  or try something other than a server install08:06
wolkinalioth: maybe... i want it to default to new window for everything, though... except maybe middle-click on web pages, but i could just use firefox for that08:07
wolkithanks anyway08:07
hawkingI need help with keyboard layout08:09
hawkingno matter what I tried08:09
hawkingI can't change it to tr08:09
eldnarCan I use .rpm's on Kubuntu?08:09
hawkingsetxkbmap gives ---> Error loading keyboard description08:09
hawkinganyone can help?08:09
kaviteldnar: try alien08:10
damnhilhawking: what's tr in keyboard layout?08:10
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eldnarI'm sorry... I'm really new... What is alien?08:10
hawkingdamnhil : turkish08:10
naliotheldnar: try finding source code first (before using non kubuntu packages)08:11
kaviteldnar: it is an application that will let you use .rpms on ubuntu08:11
eldnarBasically I'm trying to download this: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=137778&package_id=151258&release_id=34455108:11
mac__is there any way to force "adept" to remember what I had "State filter" set to last time?  I'd like to make it a default that it only shows "Upgradeable"... currently by default it shows ALL packages, which causes unnecessary delays...08:11
eldnarand want to know which I should use08:11
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naliotheldnar: can you compile software?08:12
eldnarI've never done it before08:13
naliotheldnar: if you have patience, i can try to create an ubuntu deb for it08:13
eldnarSure that would be nice... when you say patience what should I expect?08:14
naliotheldnar: join #kubuntu-offtopic please08:14
eldnarjoin #kubuntu-offtopic08:15
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eldnarsorry08:15
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m_tadeuhi....once again i'm unable to ping 127.0.0.1....any ideas?08:18
hawkingsomeone tell me a cool ftp client for kde08:18
arrinmurrhawking: konqueror? ;)08:18
JohnFluxm_tadeu: check /etc/hosts08:19
JohnFluxm_tadeu: er wait08:19
hawkingarrinmurr : I knew someone would tell that08:19
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JohnFluxm_tadeu: do "ifconfig lo"  does it exist?08:19
arrinmurrhawking: heh, well, kasablanca? kbear?08:19
hawkingarrinmur : :) konqueror is could enough08:20
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m_tadeuJohnFlux: yep...what am I looking for?08:20
hawkingarrinmur : lol that was good08:20
JohnFluxm_tadeu: hmm. strange I have the same thing08:20
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JohnFluxm_tadeu: stupid kubuntu doesn't set up loopback correctly08:20
tech9inerother than server kkathman ?.. gui default or server only installs off cd im aware mate?08:20
JohnFluxm_tadeu: temporary solution:  do ifconfig lo 127.0.0.08:20
JohnFluxm_tadeu: temporary solution:  do ifconfig lo 127.0.0.108:20
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m_tadeuJohnFlux: this is happening once a day...i notice this 'cos I have my pc as a web server and sudenly i lose access to it from my work08:21
JohnFluxm_tadeu: I think it's to do with how they've tried tosetup ip608:21
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m_tadeuJohnFlux: I think there's a way to desable ipv6...do you know how?08:22
JohnFluxm_tadeu: no sorry08:23
rjm101Hello to all, I need some help on getting my web cam to work, does anyone know about spca5xx08:23
JohnFluxm_tadeu: doing that ifconfig thing should fix it until next reboot08:23
melonipoikahi guys, could anyone check my /etc/network/interfaces to tell me what is wrong? i can't configure the wireless. this is the link to it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/701908:23
JohnFluxrjm101: google ? :)08:23
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JohnFluxmelonipoika: get it working manually without using interfaces first perhaps08:23
rjm101I did everything that google has to offer, and still does not work08:24
m_tadeuJohnFlux: didn't work for me...still can't ping 127.0.0.108:24
melonipoikaJohnFlux, could you please tell me how to do it?08:24
JohnFluxmelonipoika: stupid question, but did you switch it on hardware wise08:25
JohnFluxmelonipoika: the switch on your laptop08:25
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JohnFluxmelonipoika: look on the internet for how sorry.08:25
JohnFluxm_tadeu: ifconfig lo up08:25
melonipoikayes, it is on, thanks in any case08:26
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JohnFluxm_tadeu: then run ifconfig    and check its ip is 127.0.0.1  and mask is 255.0.0.008:26
melonipoikaJohnFlux, what do you mean with configure it manually?08:26
m_tadeuJohnFlux: Thanks a lot...08:27
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ztonzyhow to get USB devices to mount automatically ?08:38
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naliothztonzy: they should mount automatically08:41
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trancecreate an entry in fstab file...08:42
ztonzynalioth: it doesnt08:43
Tallia1Kubuntuhi there, do you suggest me something to decode files back from mp3 to wav in linux?08:44
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Tallia1Kubuntuhi there, do you suggest me something to decode files back from mp3 to wav in linux?08:46
trance/dev//sda1  /mnt/directoy vfat rw,user,noauto 0 008:46
Tallia1Kubuntuhi there, do you suggest me something to decode files back from mp3 to wav in linux?08:46
trancetry putting this line in /etc/fstab and c if it worKs08:47
trance/dev/sda1 /mnt/flash auto noauto,user 0 008:47
trancethis might work better though08:47
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B[u] ZzY!mysql08:48
ubotuhmm... lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP08:48
hawkingwhen I do apt-get dist-upgrade to get kde 3.5 will there be a problem if I have other lines in my sources.list file? I mean when I do that it also tries to get some linux-images.. do i have to get them too for kde 3.5 or shall i just remove that lines from sources.list ?08:50
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Tallia1Kubuntuhi there, do you suggest me something to decode files back from mp3 to wav in linux?08:51
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tech9iner8th time a charm twould seem here!! woohoo.. 77% done with k install as i type.. surprised at choosing server only isntall to see ascii graphic / menus tho..08:57
tech9ineralas.. long as it works i say..08:57
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ftg2!repos08:59
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource08:59
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_DOddohi i have a proplenm with the kde menu! i can't seem to alter the content!09:00
_DOddoI think i'ts a owner issue or something like that09:00
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DizzyDizhello09:01
yellowdartDizzyDiz: hello09:02
DizzyDizi have a problem getting amarok to play as loud as XMMS09:02
DizzyDizanybody else have that same problem?09:02
ftg2DizzyDiz: try going into the mixer and playing with the pcm slider.. i am pretty sure xmms uses that for volume control09:03
ftg2DizzyDiz: as opposed to Master09:03
DizzyDizwell that's the thing, if I config XMMS to use the software volume control it's still louder than Amarok.09:04
DizzyDizthe thing is my Amarok just doesn't play as loud as I'd like it to.09:04
DizzyDizit's not a big problem though09:04
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maseDizzyDiz, then config alsamixer09:04
maseor kdevolume09:05
DizzyDizmore important problem I'm having, and I should've mentioned this first, is kded is reported as using upwards of 80% of the CPU.09:05
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DizzyDizIt just started happening and I don't know why.09:06
tech9inerk mates.. finished FINally k server install.. sitting at prompt.. was following advise here and ''' "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" first and remove the cd ''' but not seeing any clear cd drive ref in said file?09:08
DizzyDizi was messing around all morning long trying to get my multimedia apps tune right, (having trouble with MPlayer and GXine plugins for firefox) and I ended up re-installing Firefox and the MPlayer plugin.09:08
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tech9inerclues appreciated mateyzz.. ;] 09:09
DizzyDizafter that I rebooted and eversince then my CPU has been spiking at 99%09:09
nlindbladhello everyone09:09
kkathmantech9iner:  should be a line in sources.list that clearly has cd-rom in it...usually the top line in fact09:09
nlindbladDizzyDiz: what does top tell you?09:09
kkathmanbut that might not be there for the server install09:09
DizzyDizhold on...09:09
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tech9inerROFLMFAO.. /me looks in mirrored closet doors and notes his skin's 'dumkopf' color.. arg..09:10
Nemeziswhen I watch DVD with Kaffeine on Kubuntu 5.10, using Xine's engine (driver xv) the dvd is too slow.09:10
Nemezisany idea?09:10
Nemezison Windows it works great09:10
tech9inerme ADD-addled bawrain skipped top line as header/titles..09:10
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DizzyDizyeah top says kded is at 80%09:11
nlindbladokey09:11
tech9inertanx all.. so commented out top cd ref line.. safe to otherwise uncomm offered 'universe' blah blah repos / sources mates please?09:12
JohnFluxNemezis: type xvinfo   and check you do have xv09:12
DizzyDizCPU 93.1% user09:12
tech9inerand furthermore.. any great and trusted sources to add other than in default list ?09:12
nlindbladDizzyDiz: hang on09:12
JohnFluxNemezis: if it says lots of stuff then you have.  if you don't it will just says so09:12
DizzyDizI had this same problem in MEpis which is why I switched to Kubuntu09:12
NemezisJohnFlux: I do have it09:13
JohnFluxNemezis: what video card?09:13
NemezisJohnFlux: nv09:13
DizzyDizI thought it had something to do with either the multimedia apps I was screwing with or the eye candy I have installed (3ddesk)09:14
JohnFluxNemezis: do you have nvidia's drivers?09:14
tech9inerare there any kde specific sources ill need for k please?09:14
DizzyDizI killed 3ddeskd and that didn't get rid of it.09:14
JohnFluxtech9iner: /topic09:14
DizzyDizI closed all of my multimedia apps, Xmms and Amarok.09:14
NemezisJohnFlux:         Driver          "nv"09:14
Nemezisyes I do09:14
NemezisI might not have 3D support09:14
tech9inerahhh.. mea culpa an tx JohnFlux ;] ] 09:15
nlindbladDizzyDiz: what version of KDE are you using?09:15
DizzyDiz3.509:15
ftg2Nemezis: definitely not using the default nv driver09:15
Nemezisok09:15
Nemezisthanks09:15
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nlindbladDizzyDiz: okey, according to some mailinglists this has been an issue in early 3.1 releases09:16
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DizzyDizok09:17
DizzyDizhas anyone been able to resolve it?09:17
nlindbladDizzyDiz: most threads/mails mention 'kat', the Desktop search engine09:19
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tech9inerhmmm.. 'sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop' just got me 'E: Invalid operation kubuntu-desktop' error ?09:19
nlindbladsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:20
nlindbladyou forget the install-part :D09:20
kkathmantech9iner: install09:20
nlindblad*forgot09:20
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kkathmanyah09:20
kkathmanvg nlindblad :)09:20
DizzyDizhmm...09:20
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tech9inerrofl.. was copying line provided by other here.. hehe09:20
nlindbladkkathman: hi again09:20
homannhello09:20
seashell11sudo apt-get install kde09:20
nlindbladtech9iner: a tip, never paste into the terminal09:20
kkathmanseashell11: no09:20
nlindbladtech9iner: I've had many bad experiences of that09:20
nlindblads/of/with/09:20
homanngood gui to confugre X11? My screen is a bit small09:20
kkathmansudo apt-get install kubuntu-dekstop09:20
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tech9inerwich is most inclusive please.. kubuntu-desktop?.. or kde please?09:21
seashell11I always do the kde, it installs more packages with it09:21
tech9inerahh..09:21
kkathmantech9iner: do what I just put there09:21
nlindbladhomann: KDE has a tool for changing resolution, but it can't change to resolutions not listed by X.org in /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:21
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seashell11at least that is what i though maybe im wrong?09:21
kkathmanyou are wrong seashell1109:22
tech9inernm lol.. tx seashell11 .. wait.. what kkathman ?.. problems with more inclusive 'kde' apt install?09:22
kkathmantech9iner: please type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:22
kkathmanif you want that09:22
homannnlindblad: And if i want to tweak more, I have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf?09:22
nlindbladhomann: correct09:23
tech9inermaybe not more inclusive eh..09:23
kkathmanhomann:  you can also try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   that will walk you through your X reconfig09:23
tech9ineralllllrighty then.. seems to be rockn down the k dtop now.. tanx chaps..09:23
nlindbladhomann: what kkathman said ^^09:23
kkathmantech9iner: there is no such thing as installing "kde"09:23
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JohnFluxhomann: add all the resolutions you require, then in kde run krandr09:24
JohnFluxhomann: this will let you change between the resolutions easily09:24
kkathmanif you upgrade to KDE 3.5, then that takes a different repository09:24
tech9inerso seashell11 's been taking those voices in said shells bit too seriously again eh kkathman wink wink lol09:24
ftg2anyone experiencing any issues using nvidia-glx in breezy? asking before I enable. it hardlocked the system when i tried it with dapper.09:24
kkathmanlol09:24
kkathmanhowdy JohnFlux :)  How goes it today?09:25
tech9inerany D I R E warnings kMates on repos that will destablize a k install please?..09:25
naliothtech9iner: do not use non official ubuntu repos09:25
kkathmantech9iner: best advice - stay with the standard, official repos!09:25
naliothtech9iner: do not install non ubuntu pkgs09:25
kkathmanhaha09:25
homannjohnFlux: krandr not found?09:26
kkathmanwell there ya go..heard it from 2 old timers :)09:26
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kkathmantech9iner:  I figure you learned a lesson there then :)09:26
tech9ineraye that.. indeed09:26
tech9inerhmmm.. nice bandwidth on repos .. bout an hour maybe.. coolness..09:27
homannkkathmann: Hmm, I think I have nvidia GeForce 2. Wasn't there some updates for that...09:27
kkathmantech9iner: there are very very limited cases when you might need to TEMPORARILY add an outside repo, but its very very good advice to check with someone knolwedgeable first :)09:27
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kkathmanhomann: I am not sure.  If your monitor is working...its a good thing :)09:28
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ftg2imho if it comes down to adding unofficial repos, it's probably easier to just compile it from source09:29
yellowdarthomann: nvidia uses a unified driver...so all nvidia cards work on the same one. so as long as you're using the current "nvidia-glx" you should be updated09:29
kkathmanftg2: many times thats very true... on occasion you HAVE to add...but thats rare09:30
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kkathmanftg2 good example is the upgrade to kde3.5 for instance...you have to add a new repo for that09:30
kkathmanor to get some special things from seveas :)09:31
homannyellowdart: thanks! In my old xorg.conf I used driver nv instead of driver nvidia.09:31
nlindbladhomann: cheers!09:31
ftg2thats a good point; i just used it myself. i tried completing a compile of kde3.5 from konstruct last night in dapper. failed miserably due to dependency issues :\09:31
B[u] ZzYhow do i serach a file by shell?09:31
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nlindbladB[u] ZzY: locate file09:31
yellowdarthomann: yeah, nv is deprecated...nvidia is way more stable anyhow09:32
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nlindbladB[u] ZzY: if it hasn't made a database for locate you must run updatedb before09:32
naliothftg2: apt can build kde3.5 for you09:32
tech9inerback.. are the 'universal' repos safe mates?09:32
B[u] ZzYi m looking for a file that is in a partition09:32
B[u] ZzYmounted09:32
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ftg2nalioth: i know, but i want a working source tree to fool with.. i mean, that is the whole point isn't it? ;)09:32
B[u] ZzYnlindblad: is it fast or slow?09:32
seashell11kkathman maybe look at this web page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE?highlight=%28kde%29%7C%28install%2 there is such a thing as apt-get install kde09:32
darkheartB[u] ZzY: find /path/to/mount | grep filename09:32
nlindbladB[u] ZzY: after it's done updatedb it's very fast to perform searches09:33
yellowdarttech9iner: i use universe and multiverse without any problems...09:33
B[u] ZzYwhat's grep?09:33
tech9inerseashell11: btw fwiw mate.. purely teasing for brevity's sake earlier mate.. practice 'dont be Haten!!' peace for all perspectives here ;] ] ] 09:33
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tech9inertanx yellowdart09:34
nlindbladB[u] ZzY: grep searches for a matching string in a text09:34
seashell11lol yea im not mad, just prving a point09:34
nlindbladB[u] ZzY: cat somefile.txt|grep 'word'09:34
tech9inerfair nuff.. chuckles...09:34
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nlindbladB[u] ZzY: that would return all lines  that have 'word' in them09:34
yellowdartB[u] ZzY: grep is a regular expression search tool...can find a string pattern in a text file09:34
naliothftg2: there isnt a usable source tree at kubuntu.org ?09:34
darkheartnlindblad: Why not just grep 'word' filename? =)09:34
nlindbladdarkheart: I like pipes09:35
darkheartnlindblad: Good enough reason for me.09:35
nlindbladdarkheart: and I always forget what argument to give it first09:35
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darkheartHaha09:35
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nlindbladand since I always end up doing: cat somefile.txt|grep 'something'|grep 'anotherstring'|grep 'athirdstring'|less09:36
nlindblador similiar09:36
nlindbladdarkheart: sed is nice, but it takes ages to learn09:36
darkheartnlindblad: grep 'something' file| grep 'anotherstring' | grep '3string' | less ;)09:36
B[u] ZzYhow can i update locate's db???09:36
B[u] ZzYcant find it09:36
B[u] ZzY!09:36
ubotuB[u] ZzY: What?09:36
B[u] ZzYhow to do09:36
ftg2nalioth: there is but i would prefer to not use apt when it comes to tweaking the source. it is far easier to create a seperate account, compile KDE via konstruct, apply it to that one account and tweak away.09:36
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nlindbladdarkheart: what if I wanna do it on a bzip2 compressed txt-file09:37
darkheartnlindblad: Yes, sed is quite complicated, but that's why it's so powerful as well.09:37
tech9inerheres the sources list i just found.. all well using this one over default one mates please?.. http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/vesaire/sources.list09:37
nlindbladbzcat file.bz2|grep 'bba'|grep 'bbfb'|less09:37
tech9inercool.. k comes w OOo2 already?.. niiice09:38
darkheartnlindblad: Well, if you were gonna search through a compressed file that would be different, obviously09:38
`NomadCould anyone tell me what the initial user/password is for a fresh install of webmin from the repositories?09:38
sampanb[u] zzy  it's sudo updatedb  to update locate's db :)09:38
nlindbladdarkheart: since I always pipe on grep to other output-sources I don't use the grep file 'string' variant09:38
yellowdarttech9iner: are you using 5.04 or 5.10?09:38
tech9iner510 yell09:39
tech9inerooops.. yellowdart09:39
PeterSomniumroot and ur password I believe Nomad09:39
darkheartnlindblad: Yeah, I heard you the first time.09:39
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nlindbladdarkheart: I must have grep09:39
yellowdarttech9iner: then you need to change all the "hoary" to "breezy"09:39
tech9inerin http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/vesaire/sources.list you mean yellowdart ?09:39
yellowdartyeah09:40
kkathmanyellowdart: if he installed from an ubuntu 5.10 disk it should be right :)09:40
yellowdartbut the standard ones are fine09:40
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nlindbladKubuntu/Ubuntu rocks09:40
nlindbladboth the actual software and the community09:41
tech9inerspecific to this http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/vesaire/sources.list was what yellowdart was helping w kkathman ;] ] 09:41
yellowdartyeah, just add "universe" and "multiverse" to the end of the "main restricted" lines09:41
nlindbladcan't believe I wasted half a year on Gentoo09:41
kkathmanlol nlindblad09:41
yellowdartnlindblad: gentoo09:41
ftg2lol. i wouldn't call any time spent on a linux system a waste.. tell me you learned nothing at all ;p09:41
yellowdartnlindblad: gentoo's not all that bad ;)09:41
tech9inerftg2: great point.. ditto that one..09:41
`NomadPeter: didn't work but I got it now, ran a command to update the password09:41
nlindbladftg2: well, I have many hours experience of the inner workings of a Linux-system09:42
nlindbladftg2: so it might not have been such a waste09:42
nlindbladbut it was far from usable/productive09:42
yellowdartnlindblad: as long as you run distcc and a few systems it's not bad09:42
nlindbladyellowdart: you end up spending the weekend getting some feature working that Ubuntu/Kubuntu has by default09:43
tech9inereh.. that is if you havent fried ur brain with a completely non generic distro like my very 1st one.. lycoris' Desktop/LX rofl09:43
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yellowdartnlindblad: true...you do spend more time making your CFLAGS work ;)09:43
nlindbladyellowdart: also, what good is the knowledge if you don't share it with others?09:43
nlindbladyellowdart: yeah (wrote some articles on that)09:43
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apollo2011When I try to compile a C++ project in KDevelop, the configure script comes back that the C PreProcessor failed the sanity check.  Anyone had this problem or now what is causing it?09:45
ftg2nlindblad: i know what you mean.. i became comfortable with things just trying to get them to work.. then ubuntu comes along and it all works out of the box ;)09:45
yellowdartnlindblad: true...i try to share what i can. and i agree about setup time...installing KDE and Gnome on the same system with gentoo usually ended up in a compile conflict09:45
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nlindbladfor now, I just wanna be here for the community09:46
yellowdartbut when i NEED it to work out of the box...i use my mac :)09:46
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tech9inernow.. me new kMates.. ;] ] .. anyone present installed any CAD/CAM/3d design apps on k please?..09:47
yellowdarttech9iner: for 3d...blender for sure09:47
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nlindbladtech9iner: a good tip: kde-apps.org is a nice place to look at different apps09:48
tech9inercontruction/trades specific CAD apps is my need here..09:48
tech9inernlindblad: jolly good n tx09:48
nlindbladyellowdart: someday we'll be there09:48
starhi I am new and having trouble I downloaded automatix kubunta now my fire fox dont work and limewire or any of the other programs that came with it09:48
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sampanstar, that's why using automatix probably isn't a good idea :/  (i speak from experience: automatix borked my system too, a couple months back)09:49
yellowdartnlindblad: i'm not complaining...i'm just glad that i don't have an M$ system09:49
starwhat did you do09:49
kkathmanautomatix is a bad idea in fact, because it uses --force and that breaks systems09:49
sampanstar, i reinstalled09:49
staris that my best option09:50
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nlindbladyellowdart: no, I don't mean it as if you were complaining, I mean that we need to keep on building, someday we'll get the same feelings from using Ubuntu/Kubuntu09:50
tech9iner'ass'uming here that 'automatix' is one of 'those' repos/sources/apps to steer clear of eh?09:50
sampanstar, "best" is tough to define.  there may be other ways to undo the damage, but they may require more work and more time than simply reinstalling -- that's especially true if it was a brand new/fresh breezy install09:50
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specialbuddyanyone know how to fix my resolution problems09:50
kkathmantech9iner: yes absolutely09:51
nlindbladspecialbuddy: tried changing it in KDE?09:51
DizzyDizThanx nlindblad! I researched it and indeed it does appear to be a KDE bug of some sort.09:51
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starit is brand new fresh install09:51
specialbuddyyeah09:51
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nlindbladDizzyDiz: okey, but is it resolved or open in some bug tracker?09:51
specialbuddybut it doesn't come up with any sizes other then 640x48009:51
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DizzyDizI dunno,I didn't look at the bug tracker09:52
sampanstar, since it's a fresh install, a re-install is only 30-45 minutes.  i bet it will be quicker and less hassle than trying to find all the automatix damage09:52
yellowdartnlindblad: sorry...misspoke (wasnt implying).. I agree 100%09:52
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nlindbladspecialbuddy: X.org (the graphic server) has it's own settings for resolution09:52
DizzyDizI know this is isn't the first time I've seen it though09:52
tech9inerany current / former 'Fedorians' on k ? ;] 09:52
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nlindbladspecialbuddy: in the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:52
DizzyDizLike I said it used to happen to me in Mepis as well.09:52
nlindbladspecialbuddy: KDE can't override those settings09:52
DizzyDizI just brought up sysgaurd and killed kded and then restarted it on the command line09:52
DizzyDizNow my CPU is back to normal.09:53
homannah, it wasn't my xserver,it was my settnigs on the monitor. much better now. will try rebooting, and see if everything works after that. Thanks!09:53
tech9inernow.. how bout non bluetooth motorola cellphone data cable apps on k ?09:53
DizzyDizI dunno why it does that.09:53
nlindbladspecialbuddy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:53
sampani kinda liked mepis, but it wouldn't retain my pppoe settings -- i had to run pppoeconf every time i booted09:53
nlindbladspecialbuddy: (in a terminal)09:53
nlindbladspecialbuddy: hopefully that will show you a dialogu where you're asked for the resolutions, etc.09:53
specialbuddyso the only way to make it work is by changing that file?09:53
starokay is there an easyer way to install those programs that kubunta dosent come with allready installed09:53
specialbuddyI did that already09:54
specialbuddythe reconfigure thing09:54
tech9inerany cellphone data apps for k / u please?09:54
nlindbladspecialbuddy: didn't help?09:54
nlindbladspecialbuddy: restart X.org then if you haven't09:54
nlindbladspecialbuddy: ALT+CTRL+BACKSPACE09:54
sampanstar, most of them are pretty easy to install once you get your repositories set right.  and this channel will still be here to help you out if you want it :)09:54
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Ilokaasui downloaded some torrent clients, but it says cannot connect to tracker, trackers are ok, i think i have to make some port cfging, if someone could give some hints ?09:54
specialbuddywell the xorg.conf file seems to say all my resolutions but it still won't come up in the kde menu09:54
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nlindbladspecialbuddy: save any documents,etc. before because everything dies09:55
nlindblad(that has a GUI)09:55
nlindbladspecialbuddy: restart X.org09:55
specialbuddyI did restart09:55
starokay I will start the reinstall and thank you09:55
mac__anyone know how to modify konqueror's "Starting points"?  I want to add a link to my web homepage...09:55
specialbuddydo I type that in a console09:55
specialbuddy?09:55
nlindbladstar: good luck09:55
seashell11tech9iner: kandy09:55
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nlindbladmac__: in the settings, under behaviour you find that09:56
tech9inerseashell11: mobile tools eh.. THnx chum ;] 09:56
DizzyDizThanx for your help nlindblad.09:56
nlindbladDizzyDiz: no problems09:56
DizzyDizI gotta get some work done now, c-ya09:56
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seashell11tech9er: I havn't ever got it to work with my phone though09:56
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tech9inerrofl.. then thanks for nuttin honey seashell11 lol ;] ] 09:56
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specialbuddynlindblad, do I type restart X.org09:57
_chrisdoes anyone know of a .DMG extractor for linux?09:57
yellowdartanybody know how to get kmail to run a filter on an IMAP folder?09:57
juliushi ppl.....how do you run a program in linux?09:57
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slow-motionre09:57
kkathmanjulius: depends on the program :)09:57
seashell11tech9iner: it says it works with only gsm phones, and mine is verizon cdma09:57
darkheartspecialbuddy: Log out of your session and hit ctrl+alt+backspace at the log in menu to restart the X server.09:57
tech9inerahh..09:57
nlindbladspecialbuddy: ALT+CTRL+BACKSPACE09:57
specialbuddyI've done that and I still don't have the resolution I want09:58
juliusi've downloaded firefox...but dont know how to run it...i'm new to linux09:58
nlindbladspecialbuddy: careful, will kill all you have at your screen (without saving)09:58
kkathmanjulius: Firefox 1.5?09:58
juliusyep09:58
ftg2specialbuddy: also try alt+ctrl++ and alt+ctrl+-, to toggle between the resolutions set in xorg.conf09:58
specialbuddyok09:58
nlindbladjulius: looked for it in the menu?09:58
nlindbladjulius: the "Internet" category09:58
juliuswhich menu???09:58
ftg2specialbuddy: that - and = is over on the numpad btw09:58
nlindbladthe large "K"09:59
kkathmanjulius:  you need to simply untar it09:59
tech9inerhow do '''they''' know its our brand of phones that we need apps for an thus disinclude is the ? eh seashell11 ;] ] .. [chuckles at pal that had his debit card kept at atm at bank.. in anger ''how do they fckg know its me!???!!!!'' rofl09:59
juliusahhh...i used ark when i downloaded it and it unpacked it for me09:59
kkathmanjulius: then you'll need to set up an icon, that points to the location of where you downloaded it09:59
juliusok....so how do i do that?10:00
kkathmannlindblad: if he got firefox from the site, it wont be in the k-menu10:00
nlindbladjulius: downloaded as in downloaded from the webpage? Not using apt (the package manager)?10:00
juliustrue10:00
nlindbladkkathman: missunderstood, thought he installed through apt10:00
kkathmango ahead nlindblad :)10:00
juliuscan i get it using apt?10:00
kkathman1.5 no10:00
seashell11lol, oh well I guess that is one of the reasons that I keep windows dual boot on 1 of the computers around the house tech9iner lol10:00
nlindbladjulius: you'll regret not sticking to apt later though10:00
nlindbladjulius: nasty suprises promised :D10:00
kkathmannlindblad: nah in this case its very easy10:01
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juliusok guyts10:01
juliushow do i do it then?10:01
kkathmanjulius: did you untar the file?10:01
juliusyep/...i have a folder10:01
specialbuddyok I have restarted x a few times now and have tryed ctrl+alt++ and that didn't do anything10:02
kkathmanjulius: ok that created a folder called firefox right?10:02
nlindbladkkathman: maybe it's just me but I don't like having stuff on my systems I've compiled/installed myself if it's not done through without pkgsrc/apt/other package manager10:02
yellowdartspecialbuddy: what is your video card?10:02
tech9inernot here seashell11 lol.. dumped my last windBLOWz os almost 2 yrs back now.. i dual boot but of my 5 pc's and 11 lappys.. only 2 lappys still have any of bills shit onboard still here.. pure linux here .. [i accept respectful bows fwiw rofl ;] ] 10:02
juliusyes it did10:02
pestilenceis there any way to get the newest version of amaroK going in hoary?  or does it depend on kde libraries i can't easily have in hoary?10:02
kkathmannlindblad: totally different situation here10:02
specialbuddyan ati 960010:02
kkathmanjulius: what is the full path of where that directory is?10:02
nlindbladkkathman: isn't he talking about compiling firefox?10:02
tech9inerpestilence: ?.. MAW!!?? Zat YOU?!! wink wink rofl10:02
kkathmanjulius: probably /home/yourname/firefox  ??10:03
juliuslol.....if i could type10:03
pestilencetech9iner: ?10:03
juliusyep...thats right10:03
kkathmannlindblad: No10:03
kkathmanfirefox comes precompiled10:03
hawkingtell me a nice news reader for kde10:03
nlindbladkkathman: oh, right10:03
pestilencehawking: binaries or text?10:03
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kkathmanok julius  just right click on your desktop, choose CREATE NEW...then click LINK TO APPLICATION10:03
pestilencehawking: klibido for the first, pan for the second10:03
juliuswitha single click mouse???10:04
kkathmanjulius: RIGHT click on the desktop10:04
juliusi have no right button10:04
juliusi'm on a msc10:04
tech9inerhahaha.. wtf?.. 'Setting up bicyclerepair (0.9-3ubuntu1)' ?? rofl.. so k will repair my 'bi'cycles too .. whoa!! hehe10:04
juliusmac10:04
kkathmanohhh hmm10:05
kkathmanok10:05
juliuslol...10:05
juliusi would have to be difficult10:05
julius:)10:05
seashell11you have a button on the keyboard that opens the right click menu julius10:05
ftg2tech9iner: lol. i did a doubletake when i saw that package name too10:05
kkathmanjulius: I dunno what you do... hehe   ctrl-click ??10:05
nlindbladtech9iner: "A framework and refactoring tool for Python. IDE Plugins are included for Pymacs, IDLE and Vim. Using Bicycle Repair Man you can rename classes, methods and variables, and all users of them are found and adjusted appropriately."10:05
kkathmanahh there we go...thanks seashell11 :)10:05
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juliusi've trie dthat10:06
juliusi'm not sure i have a right click at the moment10:06
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seashell11at least all windows keyboards have a button that opens the right click menu10:06
specialbuddydoes anyone know why I can't change my resolution10:06
nlindbladspecialbuddy: strange issue10:06
pestilencespecialbuddy: user error? :dunno:10:06
specialbuddyno10:07
darkheartspecialbuddy: Have you pasted your xorg.conf for someone to look at?10:07
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specialbuddyno10:07
juliuslol...10:07
nlindbladspecialbuddy: according to your descriptions you've done exactly as you should10:07
juliusits a spare g5 i had10:07
juliusso i thought i'd give linux a bash on it10:07
tech9inerspare g5??? say itaintso!!10:07
pestilencekkathman: i thought there were powerpc binaries for ubuntu10:07
kkathmanjulius:  we gotta get you to open the right click menu on your desktop :)10:08
pestilencekkathman: in fact, i have them sitting right here.10:08
kkathmanpestilence: there are10:08
pestilenceoh ok10:08
juliusyes10:08
tech9ineras 'spare's go.. must be nice to have 'spare' g5's lay bout lol10:08
juliuslol10:08
kkathmanyah a "spare" G510:08
specialbuddywell where should a post my problem?10:08
juliussorry guys10:08
kkathmanif you get another "spare" will you let me know?10:08
juliusi have a few10:08
darkheart!tell specialbuddy about pastebin10:08
tech9inerme too me too!! heeh10:09
juliusmostly windoiws10:09
juliuswhich i use10:09
nlindbladkkathman: I have spare hardware10:09
juliusbut thhis one i dont10:09
kkathmananyway julius we kinda gotta get that menu open10:09
juliusits for sale actually10:09
juliusmmm....but how?10:09
tech9inerany mates present dual booting suse 10 or opensuse ?10:09
kkathmantech9iner: Im goin to be soon10:09
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kkathmanjulius: sorry I got no clue cuz I dont have a mac10:10
juliusmmm///i need to get a windows mouse....lol10:10
tech9ineraye kkathman .. it nice 4sure mate.. running s10 here on my main production wrkstation.. 1st distro to pull me away from 3+ yrs on fedora core 1,2,3,4 ;] ] 10:10
juliusthanks anyway guys10:11
juliusmuch appreciated10:11
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DjDarkmanhow do i search packages via terminal?10:11
juliusright click...link to app10:12
darkheartDjDarkman: apt-cache search10:12
kkathmanjulius yes10:12
darkheartDjDarkman: apt-cache search filename10:12
juliusokies10:12
DjDarkman10x darkheart10:12
juliusthanks guys....bye10:12
IlokaasuANY dc++(for linux) recommendations ?10:12
darkheartDjDarkman: You can limit it to search only the names of packages instead of both names and descriptions w/ 'apt cache search --names-only <filename>'10:13
nlindblador use grep ;)10:13
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seashell11no that julius left I found a sight saying that ubuntu uses the F11 and F12 keys for middle click and right click10:13
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kkathmanseashell11: well we can catch him next time :)10:14
tech9ineryou'r gonna LOve yast package mngr on s10 kkathman .. best pmngr ive ever used since me 4 yrs of migration to all *nux ;] 10:14
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advershow do i install other shells, besides kde and gnome10:15
kkathmantech9iner:  Im looking forward to triple booting actually,  I have breezy already (5.10) and I want to also have Dapper (6.04) which is in developement, and SUSE10:15
specialbuddycan someone look at my xorg.conf file to see if it looks right http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/702410:15
darkheartadvers: sudo apt-get install someshellname10:15
adverswhere do i find shell names10:15
darkheartadvers: Oh wait...kde and gnome aren't shells10:15
nlindbladspecialbuddy: I'm on it10:15
darkheartadvers: They are window managers.10:15
kkathmanadvers: you can install sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop   for instance10:15
adversi want10:15
advers xfce4, and fluxbox10:15
darkheartadvers: Then sudo apt-get install xfce4 fluxbox10:16
kkathmanxubuntu-desktop = xfce10:16
tech9inerhmmmmm.. surprise watching kde upgrade of server including hpij ?.. b4 even confirming printer drivers needed?.. hmmmm..10:16
adversits that simple10:16
kkathmandarkheart:  no10:16
kkathmanxubuntu-desktop10:16
adversok10:16
adversis xfce a good shell10:16
kkathmanadvers its gnome apps with a spiffier front end10:16
specialbuddythank you nlindblad10:16
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tech9inerbtw fwiw kkathman .. yast is sooo much more than pmngr actually.. pretty much sys wide control panel actually ;] ] 10:17
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nlindbladam I wrong or shouldn't you remove Load "dri" when you have a hardware-accelerating-supporting driver?10:18
darkheartnlindblad: Maybe, but he doesn't have one.10:18
crossbarsorry :P10:18
nlindbladdarkheart: okey, not familiar with ATi cards10:18
tech9inercool.. xubuntu-desktop.. /me makes note on this old slug lappy.. that may be the tang 2do ;] 10:19
darkheartnlindblad: The 3D driver for ATI cards is called fglrx (cause that makes sense)10:19
nlindbladdarkheart: okey, now I know10:19
darkheartnlindblad: I was being sarcastic about it making sense btw.10:19
tech9inerrofl.. makes sense hehe10:19
nlindbladdarkheart: so I figured ;)10:19
darkheartLOL just making sure.10:20
nlindbladspecialbuddy: looks alright10:20
specialbuddyI don't know what to do then10:20
specialbuddyI restarted X10:20
trappistf for ATI, gl for GL, r for Radeon and x because it's cool10:20
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tech9inerdid you try a full reboot yet specialbuddy ?..10:20
specialbuddyno10:20
darkheartlol @ trappist10:20
specialbuddyshould I do that10:21
nlindbladshouldn't be necessary to reboot10:21
nlindbladbut why not try10:21
specialbuddyI thought you didn't have to do that10:21
specialbuddyok10:21
specialbuddyI will try10:21
tech9inerfound here sometimes full reboot 'windBLOWz' style on rare occasion accepts appropriate xorg configs/changes..10:21
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nlindbladmaybe it's just KDE being bad at talking to X.org10:22
seashell11lol tech9iner sure am glad someone enjoys chatting with walls, taks quite some skill eh?10:22
tech9ineraye that seashell11 rofl.. over 3 decades and 4 kids here 4 practice here.. adept here now 4sure 4sure ;] ] 10:23
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tech9inerthe scary part n case uve 'not arrived' yet seashell11 .. is when THEY START CHATTN BACK! lol10:24
nlindbladthe walls?10:25
seashell11yea, tech9iner by that time i think maybe its time to visit a doctor lol10:25
nlindblador get rid of the joint10:25
tech9inerif there's drugs involved.. count me in every damned time!! ;] ] 10:25
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specialbuddywell I tried restarted and I'm getting the same thing10:26
nlindbladspecialbuddy: try removing the lower resolutions from xorg.conf and see if that forces it to change10:26
specialbuddyI was going to ask that actually10:27
tech9inersure u were... ;] 10:27
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tech9inerciao 4 now nlindblad10:27
nlindbladtech9iner: yeah10:28
nlindbladgood night everyone10:28
specialbuddygood night10:28
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specialbuddythanks for the help10:28
seashell11goodnight? its only 4 o'clock lol10:28
tech9inerlooks like im over the bump on installs tanx to helpful mates 'bean' here ;] ] .. cheers mateyzz.. and dont 4get..10:29
tech9inerdifference tween cowboy boots n politicians' cowboy boots..10:30
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tech9inerthe cowboy boots have the chit on the OUTside!! ;] ] 10:30
tech9iner;] ] 10:30
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_elessarhi i'm using althol\n 64 now and i cant find GP driver for nforce 3 (nvo\idia nor agpgart)10:32
_elessarAGP10:32
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_elessarI can't use ATI 3d acceleration without it10:34
starhawkhi I have kubunta breezy badger and would like to know the best way to install firefox it uses adept and dosent seem to pick up all the assoated packages is there some way to tell what all I need when I do this10:34
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seashell11starhawk you could try automatix to install firefox 1.510:36
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starhawkthat crashed my system and I had to reinstall the op10:37
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adverskkathman10:37
dvm1981I think when installing 'kubuntu10:38
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dvm1981he has not ask for the root password. Its possible ?10:38
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darkheart!tell dvm1981 about root10:40
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dvm1981darkheart: thx10:40
dvm1981So that is the same case for 'Ubuntu' Right ?10:41
starhawkhow do I know which packages to install10:41
_joshwhat exactly is the kpdf problem referred to in the topic? i have had some flakiness with pdfs lately...10:41
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darkheartdvm1981: Yes, same for ubuntu10:43
starhawksnaptic seems to be better then adept at picking all the assoatiated packages for you10:43
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dvm1981darkheart: Thankx for the info10:44
Lord_Athurhi all, when  i add a new user, the new user has a kubuntu wallpaper, where is this file(wallpaper for new user)?10:44
darkheartdvm1981: You're welcome10:44
_sebastianhello10:44
sampanstarhawk  have you enabled all the breezy repositories?  (synaptic and adept will both get the same dependencies -- they're both just GUI front-ends for apt-get)10:44
_sebastiani want this program10:44
_sebastiancalled10:44
_sebastianFreerip10:44
dvm1981darkheart: :-)10:44
_sebastianis there a version of it10:44
_sebastianfor kubuntu?10:44
darkheartLord_Athur: Hmmm..can you rephrase that? I don't understand.10:44
_sebastianor something similar, i can use to rip cd songs into mp3s10:45
darkheart_sebastian: http://packages.ubuntu.com/10:45
_sebastian?10:45
darkheart_sebastian: Go to the site, search.10:45
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Lord_Athurwhere is this file used as wallpaper for new users in kubuntu?10:46
starhawkthen how come I installed firefox the first time it didnt get the plugins and I had to guess which ones I needed10:46
darkheartLord_Athur: /usr/share/wallpapers10:46
sampanstarhawk  plugins are separate (optional) packages -- so they aren't installed by default (as dependencies) with firefox10:46
Lord_Athurdarkheart, are you sure? i could not find it there10:47
starhawksampan I was star a little while ago I reinstalled like you suggested and am ready to start over10:47
darkheartLord_Athur: What version of Kubuntu? It seems to be there on my 5.10 version.10:47
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starhawkso which plugins do I pick10:48
sampanstarhawk  yay!  glad to hear you made it back :)  first things first, have you enabled the universe and multiverse repositories?10:48
derekSso, i am trying to think of cool uses for my kubuntu server, i had an extra machine lying around so i put kubuntu on it, its now a samba server10:48
_usernamehey hey hey kMatesNlassiesNgurus!! lol.. im n like flynn..10:48
Lord_Athurdarkheart, kubuntu 5.0410:48
derekSwhat else can i do that would be fun?10:48
starhawkno10:48
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_usernametanx to mates here of course ;] ] ..10:49
starhawkbut I do know how to do that10:49
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darkheartLord_Athur: That could be why...Are you using the background? If so, just go into your desktop settings and click the folder icon to browse for more image and it should take you to the default folder containing those wallpapers.10:49
sampanstarhawk  then that's step #1.  don't worry, it's easy to do :)  do you have adept running?10:49
starhawkyes10:49
ftg2dang. i can't get sound going under kaffeine. using the kaffeine-xine package.. the rest of the sound system seems to be working fine :\10:50
sampanstarhawk  okay.  at the top there's a menu button "Adept" -- click it, then click on "manage repositories"10:50
starhawkdone10:50
starhawknow what10:51
sampanstarhawk  that will bring up a list of repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list file.  right click on the top one (cdrom) and DISABLE it.  then go down the list and every line that has "universe" or "multiverse" in it, right-click and ENABLE them10:51
sampan(if you don't want the source packages you can ignore all lines with deb-src in them and just leave the "deb" lines enabled)10:51
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starhawkthats done10:53
sampanstarhawk when that's done, hit the "apply" button (at bottom) and then up at top hit the "fetch updates" button.10:53
joel86hall10:53
starhawkthats done10:53
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starhawk1733910:54
joel86hey someone who can this10:54
_usernamek mates.. no kynaptic i expected ?... do i need to install synaptic or kynaptic ?.. or best gui pckg mnger please.. tanx10:54
sampanstarhawk  k, now you can use the quick filter button to search for firefox and install it (or any/all plugins) that you please10:54
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starhawkok10:54
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darkheartjoel86: No, we can't see that =)10:55
joel86huh ?? =P10:55
_usernamehmmm.. come to think of it.. am i seen here ?.. or registration of nick required?10:56
_josh_username: i dont like kynaptic... synaptic is very good, unless you have a moral objection to using GTK based apps... otherwise use Adept10:56
seashell11_username: synaptic is much better in my opinion10:56
_usernameadept?.. new one here.. tx muchly _josh ;] 10:56
skript_username: go with synaptic10:56
joel86im enw here some one pleas help me =)=)=)10:56
joel86*new10:56
_usernameive used synaptic few yrs back.. know it best..10:56
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_usernamepoof!!!! you are now helped n healed magically joel86 lol10:57
skriptdo most of you use the default dpi values provided by KDE/X, or do you set your own ?10:57
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joel86whaat ?? =P10:57
_usernamejoel86: teasing way to pt out that u need to ask specific ?'s... not beg for nonspecific help chum.. ;] ] 10:58
darkheart!helpme10:58
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.10:58
joel86aah ok =),, i want to download msn in the terminal thing10:59
_usernamelol... there a paraphrasing echo in here ubot? lol10:59
_usernamehmm.. see one must install firefox eh?11:00
darkheartjoel86: What do you mean?11:01
seashell11sudo apt-get install firefox thats command line lol11:01
_usernameseashell11: k.. now ur helpn me so much today.. methinks its gonna cost me ;] 11:02
_usernametx seashell1111:02
joel86i was told that i could get msn "lookalike" or something but im not sure were but im guessing in the terminal thing11:02
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dark_suicjoel86, maybe... sudo apt-get install amsn11:03
_username???.... and the source of such strange rumors would be from.. redmond wa maybe? heh11:03
darkheartjoel86: Sorry, I don't know any specific MSN lookalikes...there are many IM clients though.11:03
_usernametalkin gaim maybe?11:03
_lucahem hem. Hi guys, i have a problem with blender11:03
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_usernamehehe.. habit of alt-shift to access pane menu brings up new one here.. katapult?11:04
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darkheart_username: katapult is your new friend.11:04
darkheart_username: open it up and type the name of a program you want to launch.11:04
darkheartthen enter of course.11:05
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seashell11I have MSN account set up in kopete it seems to work better thatn gaim under kde11:05
dark_suici agree with seashell11 btw11:05
seashell11and kopete should already be installed11:06
ftg2I wish there was an otr plugin for kepote, or i would switch.11:06
dark_suicexcuse me... otr?11:07
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ftg2i don't IM without it11:08
joel86gaim is that some sort of msn ??11:09
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ftg2gaim tries to be a universal client. yeah, it does MSN11:09
joel86ok,,, should it install if i write,, apt-get install gaim ??11:10
seashell11its just about like kopete, just the default install in ubuntu instead of the kopete in kubuntu11:10
seashell11but yea that should install it11:10
seashell11sudo apt-get install gaim11:11
seashell11you get that joel86 ?11:11
joel86ye thx,, gonna try that11:12
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seashell11if you aren't wanting that otr though, kopete will do the exact same thing, only run better with kubuntu joel86 because the sound notification never did work with gaim under kde for me, but with kopete it works fine11:13
joel86kopete,, is that a prog ? like gaim ?11:14
sampanw00t i think upgrading amarok to 1.3.7 solved the weird cpu usage it was giving me11:14
joel86so i just install kopete instead gaim11:15
ftg2i agree. also, the otr packages available for breezy are old. its not as easy as doing an apt-get install gaim-otr :\ you will get the flawed 2.* version of the protocol rather than 3.011:15
_usernameahhh darkheart .. coolness.. ;] .. tx chum11:15
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darkheart_username: np =) I love katapult...if you are a console type of guy, you might want to check out yakuake too11:16
seashell11kopete yea its pretty much just like gaim just type in kopete in the command line and it should start, or go to internet under the K menu and it should have kopete joel8611:16
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seashell11it will say Instant Messenger (Kopete)11:16
joel86ok,, can i add my msn list there so i have all my contacts ??11:16
_lucakopete doesn't work for uploading files to my msn contacts11:17
seashell11yea I just signed on and it already had all my contacts11:17
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darkheart_luca: It's supposed to...didn't work for me though. You might have to explicitly open up that port.11:18
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darkheartjoel86: MSN keeps a database record of your contacts...so doesn't matter what IM client you use really, you should still have all your contacts.11:18
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_lucadarkheart: well the problem is i'm behind 2 routers....11:19
seashell11It worked great for me _luca joel86 I agree with darkheart you should have all your kontacts right when you sign on11:19
seashell11oh i mean contacs, sry lol11:19
_lucaseashell11: uhm.. how do i open that port?11:20
darkheart_luca: In your routers' settings.11:20
_luca...both: but there's 2 of them and one is that "trust" thing with no ports11:21
seashell11_luca I wouldn't know, it all worked by default for me :)11:21
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_lucaseashell11: you're a lucky man, do you know it?11:22
m_tadeuwhat is the "HTP Cach Cleaner"?11:22
darkheart_luca: Then change the one you can and maybe that will be enough.11:22
joel86yaaay it worked,, meny thx =)11:22
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seashell11no prob joel86 have fun!!!11:22
_lucaOK....  just opened it, now i can receive11:23
_lucahuh NEway anyone could help with Blender?11:23
seashell11_luca good for you11:24
_lucaseashell11: :)11:24
ftg2!repos11:24
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource11:24
darkheart_luca: It worked when you opened that one port?11:25
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_lucadarkheart: yes, but receiving is still not working... very strange11:26
darkheart_luca: =\ I had the same problems so I stopped using it.11:27
_usernameso mates.. ran synaptic jus now and marked all updates.. seeing some gnome errors in terminal of syn?11:27
_lucadarkheart: so you're using gaim? gaim works to send/receive11:28
_usernamegdammit.. how doth one turn menubar back on in konversation please?..11:28
_usernameno clue wtf keyboard combo i just typoed to turn off damned konv menus.. arg11:29
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seashell11_username try Ctrl M11:30
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_usernamepuuuuuuuurfect seashell11 .. ;] 11:33
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_usernameso.. no dire warnings bout gnome errors i see in synaptic during updates ?11:34
seashell11What errors are you getting?11:35
ftg2i need a list of backport repos.. the forums (where they are normally listed) seems to be down11:36
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_usernamedebconf: unable to initialize frontend: Gnome11:37
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seashell11well if you are running kde at the moment it would be able to start gnome to would it _username ? I don't think its anything to worry about but maybe im wrong.11:40
dell500anyone here know how to get gnupod-tools working?11:41
_usernamei mean i did server only install of k.., then aptget install kubuntu-desktop?.. wy gnome errors?11:41
_usernamek seashell1111:41
ftg2_username: that is a different issue. debconf is configured to use gnome. try doing dpkg-reconfigure debconf11:41
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_usernamebetter sys monitor than gkrellm for k ?11:43
_usernametx ftg2 ;] 11:43
m_tadeuI'm getting 2 errors on boot time when loading the modules "fan" and "thermal". how do i remove these modules?11:44
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joel86were can i get all seeing eye ??11:50
seashell11joel86 you could try sudo apt-get install xeyes or sudo apt-get install tuxeyes if these were what you were talking about11:54
joel86so i can easy conect to game hubs11:55
seashell11I wouldnt have a clue, I don't do gaming :-S11:55
joel86hehe ok =)11:56
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seashell11anyway im leaving ttyl11:59
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