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| Madpilot | mdke_: "mdkeit's just a FullSearch on that word" - interesting - categories work differently than I assumed, then | 04:14 |
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| Burgundavia | Madpilot, they are quite simple in Moin, unlike Mediawiki which stores them as a table | 04:26 |
| Madpilot | yeah | 04:27 |
| Madpilot | categories in Moin keep confusing me :P | 04:27 |
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| mhz | Madpilot: what do you feel confusing about them? | 04:39 |
| Madpilot | mhz: I assumed that categories only listed pages that had been explicitly added to that category - but if it's just a tweaked full search display, obviously they behave differently | 04:41 |
| mhz | o | 04:42 |
| === mhz thinking | ||
| Burgundavia | in mediawiki you can link to a category without joining it | 04:43 |
| mhz | Madpilot: i dont quite understand you, sorry. | 04:44 |
| Burgundavia | mhz, I think madpilot assumed that the adding category dropbox did somethign special | 04:44 |
| Madpilot | mhz: I noticed that my own user page is listed in CatCleanup - and according to mdke_ it's because I have a link to CatCleanup in my page | 04:44 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia: yes, I did | 04:45 |
| mhz | oooooh | 04:45 |
| mhz | now I see | 04:45 |
| Burgundavia | I didn't even find the drop box until last week | 04:45 |
| Burgundavia | I always manually type out out the category | 04:45 |
| mhz | me too | 04:46 |
| Madpilot | I actually use the tools that're provided :P | 04:47 |
| mhz | Madpilot: what's on your mind? what would you like to do? | 04:47 |
| Madpilot | I was just confused about how Categories in Moin actually worked, that's all | 04:47 |
| mhz | .oO(there are plenty of macros available to ease and help the mind) | 04:47 |
| Madpilot | I was surprised to see my own homepage showing up in Cleanup, mostly... | 04:48 |
| mhz | ok | 04:48 |
| Madpilot | yeah, I've been reading the macro page in the help section, there's some interesting stuff there | 04:48 |
| Burgundavia | Moin has some powerful features, it just exposes them terribly | 04:49 |
| Burgundavia | it is very much "by developers, for developers" | 04:49 |
| mhz | hehehehe | 04:50 |
| mhz | unfortunately yes | 04:50 |
| Madpilot | ...like no automatic linking from a subject page to it's talk/discussion page... (a la MediaWiki) | 04:50 |
| Burgundavia | which makes it wrong for us | 04:50 |
| mhz | Actually, I started a 'marketing approach' for them a year ago... I was the only one interested on that and another guy, once in a blue moon | 04:51 |
| mhz | Madpilot: there are no /talk pages in Moin | 04:51 |
| mhz | we always discuss at the bottom of a page | 04:52 |
| mhz | (a la Moin wiki) :D | 04:52 |
| Burgundavia | mhz, that is not good for a presentation doc | 04:52 |
| Burgundavia | ala an encyclopedia article or a help page | 04:52 |
| mhz | Burgundavia: yup, no good | 04:52 |
| Madpilot | mhz: a number of pages do nevertheless have /talk pages, but finding them is a crapshoot | 04:53 |
| Burgundavia | if it isn't exposed in the interface, it basically doesn't exist for 95% of users | 04:54 |
| mhz | Madpilot: yup | 04:54 |
| mhz | that's why I (in my wiki domains) always use ...Templates | 04:55 |
| mhz | some Templates have a different look and feel, others have Macros, other 'includes' etc | 04:55 |
| mhz | Actually, 2 years ago I was using Moin for: Biz quotes, AddressBook, Calendar, ToDo, CMS, PictureGallery, Blog, etc | 04:56 |
| Burgundavia | it is nice that moin supports taht, but the chances of us actually getting that stuff on our moin wiki are basically nil | 04:57 |
| mhz | some customers were subscribed to Product Catalogues (moin made) and were happy they got email notifications for updtes | 04:57 |
| mhz | Burgundavia: yup, I know | 04:57 |
| mhz | when I first got to Ubuntu project (booooofff long ago) I thought, "ok, we have to teach people to take advantage of Moin features..." | 04:58 |
| mhz | Now, I have realized that is almost impossible to effectively do that | 04:58 |
| mhz | as MANY just edit | 04:58 |
| mhz | not using Categories, Templates, etc | 04:59 |
| jsgotangco | yep | 04:59 |
| jsgotangco | :) | 04:59 |
| jsgotangco | social :) | 04:59 |
| jsgotangco | technology won't solve that | 04:59 |
| jsgotangco | unless you spearhead a wiki school i guess | 05:00 |
| Burgundavia | mhz, I don't care to figure out how to use those features. But if you show me ready to use things I will happily use them | 05:00 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia: like you used the Category dropdown? :P | 05:00 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot, it can only do cat at a time and too be honest most docs need to hti clenaup as well | 05:00 |
| mhz | jsgotangco: yes, I know I once offered to do a moin-school but have had 2nd thoughts because I feel it's more social stuff, very difficult to stop it. Now, I'd be happy to reconsider a moin-school esp. for people like Burgundavia | 05:02 |
| mhz | and Madpilot | 05:02 |
| Burgundavia | mhz, I don't want a school. I want a page showing me pre built things i can copy and paste | 05:03 |
| mhz | and all these guys who want to | 05:03 |
| jsgotangco | bwahaha | 05:03 |
| mhz | LOL | 05:03 |
| Madpilot | there's a few tricks like that on the WikiGuide page - I threw the right-float ToC code on there, for example | 05:04 |
| mhz | yup | 05:05 |
| mhz | indeed | 05:05 |
| mhz | Burgundavia: SyntaxReference ? | 05:05 |
| Madpilot | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyntaxReference <-- now *that* is useful - thanks, mhz - adding to WikiGuide now too! | 05:08 |
| mhz | Burgundavia: Madpilot: this is one the simplest and yet great examples of editing to imporve user reading | 05:09 |
| mhz | http://druidwiki.org/ | 05:09 |
| mhz | (from Moin POV, of course) | 05:09 |
| mhz | Madpilot: yw, I think there are few more... but geee! there are so many system pages that I never remember | 05:09 |
| Burgundavia | mhz, my god, how did they get that two column? | 05:10 |
| mhz | simply | 05:10 |
| mhz | html table | 05:10 |
| Burgundavia | other than that, it still falls down | 05:10 |
| mhz | falls down? | 05:10 |
| Burgundavia | the top is still an ugly mess | 05:10 |
| mhz | syninim please? :D | 05:10 |
| Burgundavia | there is no side bar | 05:11 |
| mhz | oohhh | 05:11 |
| mhz | Burgundavia: if you have ideas and want them to be 'rendered' by Moin, send me an email and I can try | 05:12 |
| mhz | to use Moin tricks | 05:12 |
| Burgundavia | I want a sidebar on all pages, ala the mediawiki one | 05:12 |
| Burgundavia | mhz, how do you turn off the breadcrumbs? Is that simple? | 05:13 |
| Madpilot | isn't there a "show breadcrumbs" option on the User Prefs page? | 05:14 |
| mhz | Burgundavia: well, we can have a 'section bar', something Nir Soffer did for Moin, and we could 'force' ( jsgotangco dont kick me) default NewPage to use that Template | 05:14 |
| Burgundavia | mhz, can somebody remove that? | 05:14 |
| === mhz has no idea what 'breadcrumbs' are | ||
| mhz | please remember my english knowledge is limited | 05:15 |
| Burgundavia | the top line of pages | 05:15 |
| Burgundavia | blahpage >> blahpage >> blahpage | 05:15 |
| Burgundavia | that usually have nothing to do with where you are or have gone | 05:15 |
| mhz | ahhh, yes we can have None | 05:15 |
| mhz | Burgundavia: all we use in Moin is CSS | 05:15 |
| mhz | and .py | 05:16 |
| mhz | so we can turn on/off whatever | 05:16 |
| mhz | and usually those 'tabs' (we call them) | 05:16 |
| mhz | are determined by the Moin admin | 05:16 |
| Burgundavia | can you ping Hendrik and ask him to turn them off? | 05:16 |
| mhz | hno73 ? | 05:17 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 05:17 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia: go to your User Prefs page, untick the "show page trail" box - no more breadcrumbs for you | 05:18 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot, I don't care about user prefs. I want good defaults | 05:18 |
| mhz | Madpilot: ahhh, those were the 'breadcrumbs' ??? | 05:19 |
| mhz | the Page Trails! | 05:19 |
| === mhz thought there were the Tabs | ||
| Madpilot | yeah - just turned mine off then on again; page trail = breadcrumbs | 05:20 |
| mhz | Madpilot: visit www.tecnocimiento.cl | 05:21 |
| mhz | I dont have the 'Edit or Show...' links | 05:21 |
| mhz | just tabs | 05:22 |
| Burgundavia | mhz, nor does ubuntu.com | 05:22 |
| mhz | exactly | 05:22 |
| === Burgundavia grumbles at FF for random failures | ||
| Burgundavia | there is a good chance work is going to continue shipping Epip and not switch to FF because of me | 05:23 |
| Kyral | lol | 05:23 |
| Kyral | where do you work Corey? | 05:23 |
| Burgundavia | Userful | 05:24 |
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| Kyral | and that is? | 05:24 |
| Burgundavia | we do public computers, so there is no compelling reason to use FF | 05:24 |
| Burgundavia | multihead Linux, primarily for use in public computing environments, such as a library | 05:24 |
| Kyral | ah | 05:25 |
| mhz | Burgundavia: nice! | 05:25 |
| Kyral | I'm just an idiot college student :P | 05:25 |
| mhz | Tecnocimiento is being forced to register as NGO because all projects we are trying here in Chile, they all have the 'feeling' of non-for-profit, and so people just dont believe in us because we are not NGO, just 'volunteers' | 05:26 |
| Burgundavia | mhz, mein gott, your site actually looks half decent. My hats off to you | 05:26 |
| Burgundavia | sadly you are still stuck with CamelCase | 05:26 |
| mhz | Burgundavia: thx, that version is old, I am working on a new look (not sooo diff, but diff) for February | 05:27 |
| mhz | Burgundavia: oh, yes | 05:27 |
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| jsgotangco | i smell a flight 3 coming in a few days | 07:32 |
| Burgundavia | I don't | 07:32 |
| jsgotangco | why not? it looks pretty ok at the moment | 07:32 |
| Burgundavia | depends if they delay X and UE until after | 07:32 |
| Burgundavia | and the dev spring is coming up | 07:32 |
| jsgotangco | ugghh the ff start page... | 07:35 |
| Burgundavia | oh? | 07:35 |
| jsgotangco | css horror | 07:45 |
| jsgotangco | or is it ff 1.5? | 07:45 |
| Burgundavia | I will look tomorrow | 07:46 |
| jsgotangco | do you force an upgrade when its held back by apt? | 07:47 |
| Burgundavia | what is being held back? | 07:48 |
| jsgotangco | ubuntu-desktop for starters | 07:48 |
| Burgundavia | why is it being held back? | 07:48 |
| jsgotangco | dunno | 07:49 |
| Burgundavia | try and install it | 07:49 |
| jsgotangco | i did a fresh install from a build last night | 07:49 |
| jsgotangco | a fair number of packages are being held back | 07:49 |
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| jsgotangco | hmmm it wanted a dist-upgrade | 07:51 |
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| jsgotangco | hi robitaille | 07:55 |
| robitaille | hi jsgotangco | 07:58 |
| robitaille | I hate murphy's law: you have a bug, reproduce multiple time. Finally go around to do a screenshot and file the report, then you can't reproduce it anymore... | 07:59 |
| jsgotangco | Burgundavia, robitaille are you guys using synaptic trackapd? | 08:01 |
| robitaille | jsgotangco, yes | 08:01 |
| jsgotangco | robitaille, experienced slowdown? | 08:01 |
| robitaille | no. | 08:02 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, yes, haven't tested recently | 08:02 |
| jsgotangco | ok | 08:02 |
| robitaille | neither before of after the package upgrade tonight. | 08:02 |
| jsgotangco | wow i just did 39 seconds on bootchart | 08:09 |
| robitaille | my record is 37s in late Decembre. Now it hangs on the network settings... | 08:10 |
| Burgundavia | what were the hoary cds called? | 08:43 |
| Burgundavia | ne vmind | 08:43 |
| mdke_ | jsgotangco, what's up with the start page? screenshot? | 08:56 |
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| mdke | i wrote a much shortened start page based on about-ubuntu, playing with the idea of uploading it instead of the current one, but there might not be a lot of point, if start.ubuntu.com is going to happen | 09:06 |
| Burgundavia | mdke, there is no movement on s.u.c yet | 09:06 |
| mdke | ok | 09:07 |
| mdke | mpt, btw how is AboutUbuntu? any progress? | 09:07 |
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| mdke | Burgundavia, so what do you think, shall we use the short page? | 09:07 |
| Burgundavia | mdke, lets make it ready to go, and if s.u.c happens, so be it, if not, we are sitting pretty | 09:07 |
| mdke | ok then I'll upload it and people can review. | 09:08 |
| mdke | i hope the new about ubuntu happens tho | 09:08 |
| mdke | mpt said much of the code was done | 09:09 |
| mdke | at UBZ | 09:09 |
| mdke | -> work | 09:16 |
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| mpt | mdke, haven't had time to polish it up yet :-( | 09:24 |
| Burgundavia | mpt, is it likely to make dapper at this point? | 09:24 |
| mpt | yes, provided that I get an hour or two with someone to teach me how to package it | 09:24 |
| Burgundavia | mpt, bug ajmitch | 09:25 |
| Burgundavia | mpt, he has the time and can probably help you right now | 09:25 |
| mpt | yes, I'll bug him at LCA | 09:25 |
| Burgundavia | cool | 09:25 |
| mpt | mmm, new X-Chat is purty | 09:27 |
| Burgundavia | the -gnome one? | 09:27 |
| mpt | no, the Aqua one :-) | 09:27 |
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| Burgundavia | mpt, would you mind taking a look at xchat-gnome in dapper? They are looking for people to help them with UI issues | 09:28 |
| mpt | I have no machine with room for Dapper | 09:30 |
| Burgundavia | ok | 09:31 |
| jsgotangco | that xchat-gnome is hideous | 09:36 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, then bug upstream about what you don't like | 09:36 |
| Burgundavia | #xchat-gnome on this network | 09:37 |
| jsgotangco | Burgundavia, i just used it today | 09:37 |
| jsgotangco | :P | 09:37 |
| jsgotangco | is it an official gnome project? | 09:37 |
| Burgundavia | but remember that all of us are used to hacking around xchat | 09:38 |
| Burgundavia | no | 09:38 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 09:38 |
| jsgotangco | hmm why is it there? | 09:38 |
| Burgundavia | where? | 09:39 |
| jsgotangco | with the default install | 09:39 |
| Burgundavia | because mdz put it there | 09:39 |
| mpt | It's in the default install? | 09:50 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 09:50 |
| mpt | but Gaim already does IRC | 09:50 |
| Burgundavia | but shitily | 09:50 |
| Burgundavia | we have had xchat in there for a since warty | 09:50 |
| mpt | so xchat-gnome is hideous, but less hideous than Gaim? | 09:51 |
| Burgundavia | -gnome is not really what you would call mature UI wise | 09:51 |
| Burgundavia | it is a fork of xchat, so the underlying bits are sane | 09:51 |
| === mpt wonders what happened to gnome-chat | ||
| Burgundavia | dead, as of 2 years ago | 09:52 |
| mpt | well, sounds like fun | 09:56 |
| mpt | I've long wanted to design an IRC client :-) | 09:56 |
| jsgotangco | yay | 09:56 |
| mdke | jsgotangco, what was your bug in the FF homepage? | 09:57 |
| mdke | screenshot? | 09:57 |
| jsgotangco | the text only filled up 3/4 of the screen esteate like it was forced to inside a table | 09:58 |
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| mdke | jsgotangco, it's intentional that it doesn't use the whole screen, it makes text easier to read | 10:01 |
| Madpilot | whitespace != wasted space :P | 10:02 |
| mdke | maybe we can arrange it better tho | 10:02 |
| mdke | i didn't want to center it | 10:02 |
| jsgotangco | it made the page longer for sure | 10:02 |
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| mdke | i'll get the short one in for the next upload | 10:04 |
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| mdke | done | 10:15 |
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| rulerofwar | hello | 11:02 |
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| hawking | Does anyone know what package creates /etc/X11/xkb? | 12:59 |
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| jjesse | good morning, shouldn't we remove any references to bugzilla in the docs and update them to malone per the announcement email? | 04:04 |
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| mgalvin | jjesse: i would say yes | 04:09 |
| jsgotangco | greetings | 04:10 |
| jjesse | mgalvin: do you know if in malone ubuntu and kubuntu are the same distro? for example https://launchpad.net/distro/ubuntu/ | 04:10 |
| jjesse | morning jsgotangco | 04:10 |
| jsgotangco | its the same | 04:11 |
| jsgotangco | relatively speaking | 04:11 |
| jjesse | btw i love the wiki pages DapperFlight2 and DapperFlight3 | 04:12 |
| jsgotangco | i haven't seen Flight3 page yet | 04:13 |
| mgalvin | i think they are, mostly (there is no https://launchpad.net/distro/kubuntu/) so | 04:13 |
| mgalvin | jjesse: thanks :) | 04:13 |
| jjesse | grin i found it on RecentChanges | 04:13 |
| jjesse | mgalvin: you need Kubuntu Screen shots on it as well :) | 04:13 |
| mgalvin | :) | 04:14 |
| mgalvin | did you ever create a kubuntu flight 2 page? | 04:14 |
| jjesse | no i never did | 04:14 |
| jjesse | got busy doing the release notes | 04:14 |
| jjesse | which are current | 04:14 |
| jjesse | jsgotangco: have you had any time to work on kubuntu docs? | 04:15 |
| jsgotangco | jjesse, yeah, just finishing up my contract with my employer till next month | 04:15 |
| mgalvin | ah, well, i don't mind putting some kubuntu screenshots on it, please feel free to add a section for it if you like (or just send me some screenshots) | 04:16 |
| jsgotangco | jjesse, feb i would be relatively free by that time | 04:16 |
| jsgotangco | (we're moving too btw) | 04:16 |
| jjesse | jsgotangco: cool | 04:16 |
| jjesse | good luck w/ the move | 04:16 |
| mgalvin | jjesse: although, if there is enough to cover, just create a KubuntuDapperFlight3 page and use DapperFlight3 as a template for it | 04:18 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 04:21 |
| jsgotangco | the obvious big changes we'll have to put in are probably hmmm katapult as default | 04:21 |
| jsgotangco | i haven't seen that much big changes on it unless riddell will upload what he has been blogging lately | 04:21 |
| jjesse | jsgotangco: the releasenotes in svn are current for dapper | 04:25 |
| jjesse | i work w/ Riddell all the time to keep them current | 04:25 |
| jsgotangco | i got an updated svn | 04:26 |
| jsgotangco | i still check every now and then | 04:26 |
| jsgotangco | to be honest the more i use SuSE every now and then, the more I begin to see Kubuntu's weaknesses | 04:28 |
| mgalvin | jjesse: i | 04:31 |
| jjesse | yes mgalvin | 04:31 |
| jjesse | ? | 04:31 |
| mgalvin | 'll take a peak at your release notes in svn | 04:32 |
| mgalvin | sorry, hit <enter> by mistake :-/ | 04:32 |
| jjesse | ok repos/trunk/kubuntu/releasenotes/C/releasenotes.xml | 04:32 |
| mgalvin | k, cool, thanks | 04:32 |
| mgalvin | i'll also d/l a copy of kubuntu so i can take some screenshots | 04:32 |
| mgalvin | i should have some time to do it before flight 3 is released | 04:33 |
| jjesse | k thanks, busy at work on a project | 04:33 |
| mgalvin | sure, np | 04:33 |
| mgalvin | i should try out kubuntu anyway :) | 04:33 |
| jjesse | i have a dapper build that i use w/ qemu so i don't mess up my work latpop | 04:34 |
| jsgotangco | i smell flight 3 in a week.... | 04:35 |
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| jjesse | RoseAnn, | 04:35 |
| jjesse | 04:35 | |
| jjesse | At the bottom of our webpage, www.ftpb.com, there is a link to | 04:35 |
| jjesse | "Intranet". If you click on that, it will ask for a username and a | 04:35 |
| jjesse | password. If you provide the network username and password it will | 04:35 |
| jjesse | open up your email. | 04:35 |
| jjesse | doh | 04:35 |
| jjesse | wrong window | 04:35 |
| jjesse | jsgotangco: riddell mentioned this week hopefully | 04:36 |
| jsgotangco | nice you use IRC at work hehehe | 04:36 |
| jjesse | yup | 04:36 |
| mgalvin | i tried to get people at my job to use IRC too, that lasted about a week, then the next moday everone forgets to open xchat and that was that... oh well :-/ | 04:39 |
| jsgotangco | at work, we use skype | 04:39 |
| mgalvin | people are so lazy sometimes | 04:39 |
| mgalvin | i set up an internal jabber server so we all use that now | 04:39 |
| mgalvin | more secure this way anyway | 04:40 |
| jsgotangco | i wouldn't want to rely on it but unfortunately, the higher ups are so used to it and won't even budge | 04:40 |
| jjesse | it depends on the person, aim, icq or email | 04:41 |
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| jjesse | welcome gobbe | 04:46 |
| jjesse | gobbe is interested in helping w/ kubuntu docs :) | 04:46 |
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| jsgotangco | heyyy | 04:48 |
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| jsgotangco | would you like a chameleon? heh | 04:51 |
| jsgotangco | ok gotta sleep | 05:11 |
| jsgotangco | see you all (hopefully) in the meeting | 05:11 |
| jsgotangco | please come *sigh* | 05:11 |
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| LaserJock | mdke: -devel reminds me, will I get an email from elmo for svn access? | 08:08 |
| mdke | good point | 08:08 |
| mdke | LaserJock, yes, when its done | 08:09 |
| LaserJock | oh, ok. I didn't know if it was an email thing or maybe a LP thing or what | 08:10 |
| mdke | he'll mail you user/pass | 08:12 |
| mdke | encrypted | 08:12 |
| LaserJock | ahh, I see | 08:13 |
| Burgwork | mdke, I have asked for permissions to the main website | 08:19 |
| Burgwork | I'd like to start a dialog about fixing up the main website as well | 08:19 |
| Burgwork | mostly the main page | 08:19 |
| LaserJock | Burgwork: is that within the doc-team's realm? | 08:36 |
| mdke | Burgwork, make sure you talk first, act afterwards | 08:37 |
| mdke | LaserJock, no | 08:39 |
| Burgwork | mdke, nah, I like shooting from the hip ;) | 08:41 |
| Burgwork | LaserJock, the main website is sort of marketing, really | 08:42 |
| LaserJock | oh, I just wondered who was responsible for it | 08:43 |
| mdke | LaserJock, the canonical people who do marketing, and henrik, the webmaster | 08:43 |
| mdke | Burgwork, i know, that's why i said it ;) | 08:44 |
| Burgwork | mdke, it only looks that way | 08:50 |
| Burgwork | LaserJock, but we currently have no community marketing team | 08:50 |
| mdke | unsurprisingly | 08:51 |
| mdke | marketing should be for those who do it for a living, imo | 08:51 |
| mdke | at least the decision making | 08:51 |
| LaserJock | true | 08:51 |
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| Burgwork | mdke, no, you can have a successful community marketing team, you just need a strong central voice | 08:53 |
| mdke | as I said, "at least the decision making" | 08:54 |
| Burgwork | hence the DIYMarketing page | 08:54 |
| Burgwork | we need more of that | 08:54 |
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| mgalvin | Burgwork: hey i can understand moding the splash section... but can i ask why u removed the intro segue? | 10:10 |
| mgalvin | additionally, i'm not done yet, when its done i will send and email to the list stating that it is ready for review and such | 10:13 |
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| Burgwork | mgalvin, sorry, my overzealous red pen | 10:22 |
| mgalvin | :), no worries, was just wondering if there was some specific reason | 10:23 |
| Burgwork | mgalvin, oh and Kamion said he loved your work | 10:24 |
| mgalvin | Burgwork: i added back the intro segue with "I" since i feel in this case it adds a personal touch and provokes reader enthusiasm, but left your other change (i should not put my personal views there ) | 10:26 |
| mgalvin | cool, glad to hear people like it :) | 10:26 |
| Burgwork | mgalvin, ok, sounds good | 10:26 |
| Burgwork | mgalvin, Kamion = Colin Watson = number 2 on the distro team | 10:26 |
| mgalvin | i know who he is :) i worked with him on DapperFlight2 also | 10:27 |
| Burgwork | ok | 10:27 |
| mgalvin | Burgwork: about LiveCDPersistence... I would like to create a wiki page that describes dappers live cd persistance... do you think moding this page is best or should I create the seperate DapperLiveCDPersistence page? | 10:30 |
| mgalvin | (asking you since it says you were the last person to touch it) | 10:30 |
| Burgwork | mgalvin, create a general page, not specific to dapper | 10:31 |
| Burgwork | try and avoid $releasenname in the name unless the target audience is Ubuntu developers | 10:32 |
| mgalvin | ok, do you think it would be best to overwrite/replace LiveCDPersistence or add two sections (since it already has hoary content)? | 10:32 |
| mgalvin | meaning replace it with the new dapper way of doing it | 10:33 |
| Burgwork | mgalvin, add a new section of Ubuntu 6.04 | 10:33 |
| Burgwork | actually, no overwrite the hoary stuff | 10:33 |
| Burgwork | it is only alive cd | 10:33 |
| mgalvin | yea, we could always recover the old hoary stuff if someone complains | 10:33 |
| Burgwork | if it was discussing something on an installed system I would go for the first option | 10:34 |
| mgalvin | ok, this page is just and old way of getting persistance... it should not be needed any more | 10:36 |
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