| lfittl | night all | 12:03 |
|---|---|---|
| lucas | it doesn't :( | 12:03 |
| lucas | launchpad sometimes look sooo broken | 12:10 |
| lucas | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-backgrounds/+bugs <= no bugs | 12:10 |
| lucas | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gnome-backgrounds/+bug/6684 <= bug | 12:10 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 6684: "backgrounds (Ubuntu) - gnome-backgrounds: merge new debian version" Fix req. for: gnome-backgrounds (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: MOTU Reviewers Team, Status: Fix Committed http://launchpad.net/bugs/6684 | 12:10 |
| dholbach | Committed Fix? | 12:12 |
| chninkel | lucas: the default filter maybe doesn't show "Fix Committed" bugs | 12:12 |
| chninkel | but where is the advanced button ? | 12:12 |
| chninkel | there usually is a advanced button next to the search button: https://launchpad.net/people/motureviewers/+assignedbugs | 12:14 |
| raphink | lucas: pour un sync il faut assigner motumergers aussi? | 12:16 |
| lucas | reviewers oui | 12:17 |
| lucas | motureviewers | 12:17 |
| lucas | motumergers c'est la team dont je comprends pas trop l'intret (voir ma proposition pour le MOTUMeeting de demain) | 12:17 |
| thierry_ | siretart : would you like to also review my other package? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1414 | 12:17 |
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| raphink | ah oki | 12:20 |
| raphink | donc reviewers | 12:20 |
| raphink | bon a roule | 12:20 |
| raphink | je change tus mes bugs | 12:20 |
| raphink | ;) | 12:20 |
| raphink | vala | 12:22 |
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| dholbach | good night guys :) | 01:02 |
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| lifeless | ajmitch: hey, is python-bazaar from sid pullable to dapper ? | 01:45 |
| ajmitch | it's in sid now? | 01:45 |
| ajmitch | I guess I won't file that ITP then ;) | 01:45 |
| lifeless | I think so ;) | 01:45 |
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| ajmitch | hm, it doesn't show up here | 01:46 |
| lifeless | as 'pybaz' | 01:46 |
| ajmitch | ah right | 01:46 |
| lifeless | bah | 01:46 |
| ajmitch | whoever did that needs hurt | 01:46 |
| lifeless | silly man, | 01:46 |
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| ajmitch | that's on your local install? | 01:46 |
| ajmitch | no, I see it | 01:46 |
| lifeless | no, dchroot apt-cache search pybaz | 01:46 |
| lifeless | ;0 | 01:46 |
| lifeless | probably python2.4-pybaz is what it should be | 01:47 |
| lifeless | as the python module is 'pybaz' | 01:47 |
| ajmitch | right | 01:47 |
| ajmitch | I see python-bazaar that I have installed isn't actually in dapper, I think | 01:48 |
| sladen | how come bluez-bcm203x disappeared from universe? | 01:49 |
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| poimen | how can be xdvdshrink added to the universe rep? | 02:24 |
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| lifeless | why does half of dapper conflict with dbus? | 02:27 |
| Kyral | hal? | 02:28 |
| Kyral | or the lackthereof? | 02:28 |
| ogra_ibook | because you dont upgrade often enough ? | 02:28 |
| Kyral | heheh | 02:28 |
| lifeless | ogra_ibook: I'm trying to, but it wont let me! | 02:32 |
| ogra_ibook | ouch | 02:33 |
| lifeless | ogra_ibook: I cant seem to find a solution that keeps evo *and* gnome installed. | 02:33 |
| lifeless | which is, needless to say, painful. | 02:33 |
| ogra_ibook | just let it remove evo and install ubuntu-desktop in the end | 02:33 |
| lifeless | hmm, let me check the ubuntu-desktop depends | 02:34 |
| ogra_ibook | evo is among them :) | 02:34 |
| lifeless | I'm checking for postfix | 02:34 |
| ogra_ibook | nope | 02:34 |
| lifeless | its why I never had ubuntu-desktop, because I use exim | 02:34 |
| ogra_ibook | MTA is gone since breezy | 02:34 |
| ogra_ibook | we dont ship any ... | 02:34 |
| lifeless | and the silly thing depended rather than postfix|mail-transfer-agent | 02:34 |
| lifeless | looks good, I'll try that. | 02:35 |
| ajmitch | sigh, the screensaver prefs window is obnoxiously slow | 02:36 |
| ogra_ibook | not here | 02:36 |
| ogra_ibook | gnome or xscreensaver ? | 02:37 |
| ajmitch | probably xscreensaver | 02:37 |
| ajmitch | and it's probably because I was previewing GL screensavers | 02:37 |
| ogra_ibook | ah, havent got that since ubz | 02:37 |
| ajmitch | and then electricsheep | 02:37 |
| ogra_ibook | electricsheep is darn slow | 02:37 |
| ogra_ibook | but looks great :) | 02:38 |
| ajmitch | yeah :) | 02:38 |
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| ajmitch | is gnome-screensaver looking nice & usable for dapper? | 02:40 |
| ogra_ibook | yup | 02:42 |
| ogra_ibook | we just switched the seeds | 02:42 |
| tseng | how about g-p-m? | 02:42 |
| tseng | and n-m | 02:42 |
| ogra_ibook | g-p-m very likely | 02:43 |
| ajmitch | n-m is looking shaky still | 02:43 |
| ogra_ibook | n-m very unlikely | 02:43 |
| tseng | nm actually works for me these days | 02:43 |
| ajmitch | especially as atheros cards do stupid things with the madwifi drivers | 02:43 |
| tseng | the atheros cards cant scan and be connected at the same time | 02:43 |
| tseng | is what im hearing | 02:43 |
| Kyral | huhwha about Athereos? | 02:43 |
| tseng | if it only scanned when not connected, less problem | 02:44 |
| ajmitch | apparantly it takes a 'scan for networks' command as 'disconnect & look for somewhere else to go' | 02:45 |
| ajmitch | I can't recall what other crack is lined up for dapper | 02:46 |
| Kyral | hmmm | 02:55 |
| Kyral | stupid question but any reason why GAIM2 hasn't hit Dapper? | 02:55 |
| tseng | because its not released? | 02:56 |
| Kyral | oh... | 02:57 |
| ajmitch | you sound as bad as those forum users.. | 02:59 |
| Kyral | Actually I only asked because I tried to use Gaim Encryption to one of my friends and he said he was using 2, so I was just wondering | 03:00 |
| Kyral | I heard the UI stinks, so... | 03:00 |
| ajmitch | so far beta 1 has been released | 03:01 |
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| Kyral | I was just wondering :P | 03:01 |
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| LaserJock | hi Kyral | 03:16 |
| Kyral | hey | 03:16 |
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| LaserJock | hi minghua | 03:44 |
| minghua | hello LaserJock | 03:45 |
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| LaserJock | how's it going? | 03:45 |
| psusi | good... how's it hanging? | 03:46 |
| LaserJock | psusi: good | 03:46 |
| minghua | quite good, too busy to work much on ubuntu though | 03:46 |
| LaserJock | hmm, yes. I don't know if I will finish my PhD at the rate I'm going. Ubuntu is much more fun ;-) | 03:47 |
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| Kyral | lol | 03:47 |
| LaserJock | Sometimes I think I maybe shouldn't have switched from CS to Chemistry | 03:48 |
| Kyral | lol | 03:48 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: did I tell you I got my package uploaded to Debian today? | 03:49 |
| psusi | lol | 03:49 |
| Kyral | LaserJock: nice | 03:49 |
| Kyral | I need to file ITPs for EasyChem | 03:49 |
| Kyral | but I forgot lol | 03:49 |
| Kyral | what did you do? File a RFS and ITP? | 03:50 |
| LaserJock | ITP since I already had a package ready to go | 03:50 |
| Kyral | ah | 03:50 |
| Kyral | what pack? | 03:50 |
| LaserJock | then I sent a RFS to debian-mentors | 03:50 |
| LaserJock | plotdrop | 03:50 |
| LaserJock | Debian has sooo many acronyms | 03:50 |
| Kyral | so I just gotta file an ITP for EasyChem | 03:51 |
| Kyral | and then a RFS for it | 03:51 |
| Kyral | Do I gotta rebuild the pack for Sid? | 03:52 |
| Kyral | or Etch/Sarge? | 03:52 |
| LaserJock | Sid and I don't know if it is necessary but It probably wouldn't hurt | 03:53 |
| LaserJock | cause you want to get rid of the 0ubuntu1 | 03:53 |
| Kyral | like do I just gotta make sure it builds? Or actually make a changelog change? | 03:53 |
| hub | I need a review: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1472 | 03:53 |
| hub | I clarified the license with upstream | 03:53 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: hmm, not sure. I had a couple of change I wanted to make so I repackaged | 03:54 |
| Kyral | LJ maybe you should send this out over the MOTU-Science | 03:54 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: what? | 03:54 |
| Kyral | the fact that Plotdrop is in Debian | 03:54 |
| LaserJock | oh, sure | 03:54 |
| Kyral | I gotta find someplace to upload mine to.. | 03:55 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: check out http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2006/01/msg00096.html | 03:55 |
| LaserJock | that is my RFS | 03:56 |
| Kyral | ah | 03:56 |
| Kyral | I was thinking of rebuilding EasyChem with CDBS | 03:56 |
| Kyral | If it works I may send that version into Debian | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: what section did you put EasyChem under? | 03:57 |
| Kyral | universe/science | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | hmm, it didn't show up on my list at http://tiber.tauware.de/~laserjock/science_list.html | 03:58 |
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| LaserJock | hmm, odd. It should be there | 04:00 |
| Kyral | okay I'll file an ITP and RFS tomorrow | 04:00 |
| Kyral | actually...I wanna get Fetchmail and a MTA setup... | 04:02 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I had to do that too to get reportbug running | 04:03 |
| LaserJock | I install exim4 | 04:03 |
| Kyral | how do I setup Fetchmail anyway? | 04:03 |
| LaserJock | oh, don't ask me. I'm clueless when it comes to that kinda stuff. | 04:03 |
| Kyral | lol | 04:03 |
| LaserJock | I just use thunderbird ;-) | 04:05 |
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| Kyral | heh | 04:05 |
| LaserJock | what I am really concerned about right now is how we are going to handle the rest of the packages that aren't in Debian | 04:05 |
| Kyral | reverse merge? | 04:05 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: why is that? | 04:06 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: it's something that only debian developers can upload anyway | 04:06 |
| LaserJock | well, I've been talking with debian-science and they would like to see ITPs or RFPs on them (8 right now, maybe more) | 04:06 |
| LaserJock | but since we maintain as a team in Ubuntu I don't know how to handle maintainership when we try to get them in Debian | 04:07 |
| ajmitch | have the team maintain them | 04:08 |
| ajmitch | same as ubuntu | 04:08 |
| LaserJock | How do we do that? | 04:08 |
| ajmitch | set the Maintainer: field as the team name & contact email | 04:08 |
| ajmitch | and the team members in Uploaders: | 04:08 |
| minghua | LaserJock: look at vim for example | 04:08 |
| minghua | Debian developers have been discussing if it's a good practice though | 04:09 |
| ajmitch | debian developers will discuss anything to death if they can | 04:10 |
| Kyral | Like Congress! | 04:10 |
| LaserJock | do you think DDs would sponsor packages if they were maintained like that? | 04:10 |
| ajmitch | yes | 04:10 |
| ajmitch | we do it often | 04:10 |
| jamessan | well, having the team name in the maintainer field is fine. the part being discussed is what to put as the name for the person that last made the change | 04:10 |
| Kyral | changelog | 04:10 |
| ajmitch | jamessan: team name, and person name in the changelog entry itself | 04:11 |
| ajmitch | is what is commonly done | 04:11 |
| LaserJock | maybe I can ask debian-science but I'm kind of afraid after the last thing I brought up ;-) | 04:11 |
| Kyral | Actually | 04:12 |
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| minghua | jamessan: oh I see. thanks for the clarification | 04:13 |
| LaserJock | well, it is easy enough to do RFPs at least | 04:14 |
| Kyral | Where is the Debian-Sponsors ML? | 04:16 |
| LaserJock | debian-mentors ? | 04:16 |
| Kyral | oh | 04:17 |
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| LaserJock | well, lucas's scripts are sure coming in handy for MOTUScience | 04:19 |
| LaserJock | I think debian-science was fairly impressed | 04:20 |
| Kyral | scripts? | 04:20 |
| LaserJock | multidistrotools or something like that | 04:21 |
| Kyral | Subscribed to debian-science and debian-mentors | 04:21 |
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| LaserJock | Kyral: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiDistroTools | 04:21 |
| Kyral | Whoa... | 04:22 |
| Kyral | Package..it...NOW :D | 04:22 |
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| Kyral | eh? | 04:22 |
| ejofee | [this is a quick PATCH] : tightvncserver won't work (won't find the font's path) unless one runs "sudo ln -s /usr/share/X11/fonts /usr/lib/X11". what do you think it should be done: create the symlink or change the path tightvncserver is expecting? | 04:24 |
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| ejofee_ | sorry, i've been disconnected. has anybody answered in the meantime? | 04:42 |
| lifeless | no | 04:43 |
| lifeless | but fix tightvncserver | 04:43 |
| lifeless | its probably hardcoded rather than using whatever header setting it should use | 04:43 |
| lifeless | ask daniels | 04:43 |
| ejofee_ | when do i find daniels? | 04:45 |
| ejofee_ | lifeless: ^ | 04:45 |
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| LaserJock | Kyral: did you know easychem was backported? | 05:16 |
| Kyral | LaserJock: yah I got the AutoBackport thingy | 05:17 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: the what? | 05:17 |
| Kyral | I dunno | 05:17 |
| Kyral | some kinda script | 05:17 |
| Kyral | I think | 05:17 |
| Kyral | But a binary pack hasn't been built yet has it? | 05:18 |
| LaserJock | nope | 05:19 |
| Kyral | yah thats kinda odd | 05:19 |
| LaserJock | well now I have a bash script to generate the lists on MOTUScience using mdt :-) | 05:19 |
| Kyral | lol | 05:20 |
| Kyral | What is libregexx | 05:20 |
| ptlo | sounds like a c++ regular expression library | 05:24 |
| Kyral | yah | 05:24 |
| Kyral | yamysqlfront depends on its -dev but I cannot find it in Dapper | 05:25 |
| Kyral | and the Debian package search is down | 05:26 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: apt-cache search in sid chroot? | 05:27 |
| Kyral | ...I didn't think of that... | 05:27 |
| Kyral | lol | 05:27 |
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| Kyral | ..not showing up | 05:30 |
| Kyral | nor in Etch | 05:30 |
| Kyral | I'll just email upstream | 05:31 |
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| Kyral | oh whoops, he emailed me the new version | 05:31 |
| Kyral | okaaay...I tihink I need to seperate this package... | 05:35 |
| ajmitch | hammer, please | 05:35 |
| Kyral | huh? | 05:35 |
| ajmitch | #ubuntu | 05:36 |
| Kyral | who? | 05:36 |
| ajmitch | petoix | 05:36 |
| Kyral | ajmitch...was there ever a package called libregexx-dev in Debian? | 05:36 |
| ajmitch | and others with short patience | 05:36 |
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| ajmitch | let's see.. there are ~15-10K packages in debian | 05:37 |
| Kyral | sorry | 05:37 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: google? | 05:37 |
| ajmitch | and you ask if I know of a specific -dev package? | 05:37 |
| Kyral | I'm asking because this control has qa@debian as maintainer.. | 05:37 |
| ajmitch | hello jaldhar | 05:37 |
| Kyral | err. packages@qa.debian.org | 05:37 |
| ajmitch | probably orphaned then | 05:37 |
| Kyral | ah | 05:37 |
| ajmitch | or it's been removed from debian | 05:38 |
| Kyral | Seeing as its not in Sid or Etch... | 05:38 |
| ajmitch | http://packages.qa.debian.org/r/regexx.html | 05:39 |
| ajmitch | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=263873 | 05:39 |
| Ubugtu | Debian bug 263873: "regexx -- RoQA; orphaned, RC bug, no upstream" Package: RM, Maintainer: James Troup and others http://bugs.debian.org/263873 | 05:39 |
| Kyral | ah | 05:39 |
| ajmitch | hm | 05:40 |
| ajmitch | I know that upstream.. | 05:40 |
| Kyral | anyway to get it into Dapper.... | 05:40 |
| ajmitch | did you talk to upstream of this package? | 05:40 |
| ajmitch | or of the other one? | 05:40 |
| Kyral | yamysqlfront? | 05:40 |
| ajmitch | regexx | 05:40 |
| Kyral | no | 05:40 |
| Kyral | I'm only asking about it because something else I'm packaging depends on it | 05:41 |
| ajmitch | it shouldn't be hard to track down niemeyer & see if he has a new upstream version to get back into sid | 05:41 |
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| Kyral | and I discovered its package dir in the yamysqlfront sourceball | 05:41 |
| ajmitch | hm | 05:43 |
| ajmitch | I'll try & hunt down a newer regexx | 05:43 |
| Kyral | ty | 05:44 |
| ajmitch | the author works for canonical now, btw | 05:44 |
| Kyral | heh | 05:44 |
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| Kyral | thats a nice job lol | 05:47 |
| ajmitch | what is? | 05:47 |
| Kyral | Working for Canonical | 05:48 |
| ajmitch | last I heard he was on the launchpad team | 05:48 |
| Kyral | cool | 05:48 |
| Kyral | Niemeyer you say? | 05:49 |
| ajmitch | yes | 05:49 |
| Kyral | I'll look him up on Launchpad tomorrow and email him about the package | 05:49 |
| ajmitch | why? | 05:49 |
| Kyral | Wouldn't he know about new versions? Or am I confused... | 05:50 |
| ajmitch | gustavo at niemeyer.net will do | 05:50 |
| ajmitch | no need to lookup on LP | 05:50 |
| Kyral | ah | 05:50 |
| Kyral | see I didn't know his email :P | 05:50 |
| ajmitch | it's on the bazaar-ng list :) | 05:50 |
| Kyral | the wha? | 05:50 |
| ajmitch | bzr, bazaar-ng, bazaar 2.0... | 05:51 |
| Kyral | ah | 05:51 |
| ajmitch | mailing lists, you know? | 05:51 |
| Kyral | yah | 05:51 |
| Kyral | I'm not on the Bazaar ones | 05:51 |
| Kyral | ty ajmitch | 05:52 |
| Kyral | the only reason I'm interested in this is because upstream for yamysqlfront is very responsive | 05:53 |
| psusi | hrm.. is there any way to speed up the way X renders fonts? seems to be rather cpu intensive | 05:54 |
| Kyral | Hardware accel? | 05:54 |
| psusi | I think it's on... | 05:54 |
| Kyral | I mean let it render the desktop | 05:54 |
| psusi | dragging a full window around the desktop is plenty fast and doesn't cause cpufreq to speed up the cpu... scrolling a terminal window or dragging the window over top of xchat pegs the cpu from all the text drawing | 05:55 |
| Kyral | ick | 05:55 |
| psusi | and it's X that is going nuts | 05:55 |
| Kyral | what kind of video card do you have? | 05:55 |
| psusi | so my guess is it's font rendering | 05:55 |
| psusi | radeon 9800 pro | 05:55 |
| Kyral | *shudder* ATI | 05:56 |
| ajmitch | psusi: invest in shares in the power company | 05:56 |
| Kyral | lol | 05:56 |
| psusi | ajmitch, why do you say that? | 05:56 |
| psusi | that reminds me for at least the 80th time.. I need to order a Kill-a-watt | 05:56 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: do you have a minute to run through using bzr for packages? If not that is ok. | 05:58 |
| ajmitch | I thought I ran through it in 1 line earlier? :) | 05:58 |
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| LaserJock | yes, but I'm not sure what directories to repo, etc. | 05:58 |
| LaserJock | it sounded like you just did /debian | 05:59 |
| ajmitch | often, yes | 06:00 |
| ajmitch | depends how you want to handle patches | 06:00 |
| Kyral | Is there anything wrong with using Simple Patchsys? | 06:02 |
| ajmitch | not specifically | 06:03 |
| ajmitch | although it can probably have problems | 06:03 |
| Kyral | ah | 06:03 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: so what do you do with the .bzr when you build a package? do you exclude it? | 06:03 |
| Kyral | so for easy things like EasyChem its alright?> | 06:03 |
| ajmitch | you can | 06:03 |
| ajmitch | lately I've left it in, thought I suppose I should remove it | 06:04 |
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| ajmitch | Kyral: it's several steps beyond cvs :) | 06:04 |
| Kyral | okaaay | 06:04 |
| ajmitch | and with packaging I'm using it in its simplest way possible | 06:04 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: http://bazaar.canonical.com/IntroductionToBzr | 06:05 |
| ajmitch | Kyral: it will revolutionise your life | 06:06 |
| psusi | oh yea, it is definately the font rendering engine... turning down all the subpixel smoothing and all that makes a huge difference in cpu usage | 06:07 |
| LaserJock | I'm still trying to figure out how to use any kind of RCS :( | 06:07 |
| Kyral | Yanno...this would prolly be more useful when I start cranking out my own software | 06:07 |
| ajmitch | LaserJock: all I really do is commit the changes I make in debian/ | 06:07 |
| ajmitch | and then branch for a new version | 06:07 |
| LaserJock | but do you have a directory where you keep all the repos and then checkout the /debian into the source directory? | 06:08 |
| ajmitch | just my normal packaging arrangement | 06:09 |
| ajmitch | which is something like ~/debian/mono | 06:09 |
| ajmitch | ~/debian/gnu | 06:09 |
| ajmitch | ~/debian/phpgroupware | 06:09 |
| ajmitch | etc | 06:09 |
| ajmitch | nothing particularly ordered about what I do | 06:09 |
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| ajmitch | since bzr doesn't have a separate repository like cvs & svn do | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch: oh, ok | 06:10 |
| ajmitch | I *could* push my branches to a location, if I wanted | 06:10 |
| ajmitch | but that would be a waste of time for me | 06:10 |
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| LaserJock | hi Hobbsee | 06:11 |
| ajmitch | I'd hate for it to suddenly turn off | 06:11 |
| Hobbsee | hi LaserJock | 06:11 |
| ajmitch | afternoon Hobbsee | 06:11 |
| Hobbsee | afternoon ajmitch :) | 06:11 |
| LaserJock | ok, so I was going through the science related packages that are in Ubuntu but not in Debian and I have noticed a couple that apparently came from apt-get.org | 06:25 |
| LaserJock | how does that work? | 06:26 |
| ajmitch | they got imported, what other info do you want? :) | 06:27 |
| LaserJock | well, so they are just left around I suppose? | 06:28 |
| LaserJock | I guess it takes a MOTUs attention for anything to be updated | 06:28 |
| ajmitch | sadly, yes | 06:28 |
| LaserJock | because I was just looking at ruby-gnuplot and the package is from 2001 but they released a new version in November | 06:29 |
| LaserJock | so obviously nobody was keeping track of it | 06:30 |
| LaserJock | anybody know japanese? | 06:33 |
| minghua | Yagisan, I suppose. but he is not here | 06:34 |
| LaserJock | so would it be bad to drop packages that are only in Ubuntu that aren't being maintained anymore? | 06:35 |
| minghua | LaserJock: I think it depends on how we want make people see universe | 06:36 |
| minghua | I always look universe as "packages without (guaranteed) support, some may work, some may not" | 06:37 |
| minghua | so it's fine for me if there are unmaintained packages | 06:37 |
| minghua | others may not share the same opinion, though | 06:37 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I guess I view it as universe is "packages maintained my MOTU and wannabes" which means that if we aren't maintaining it maybe we shouldn't be sending it out | 06:39 |
| LaserJock | but I see your point | 06:39 |
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| LaserJock | I guess it would just "look" better (especially to Debian, if we care) iif we didn't have this stuff just hanging out there | 06:41 |
| zakame | hi MOTUs :) | 06:41 |
| LaserJock | hi zakame | 06:41 |
| ajmitch | hello zakame | 06:43 |
| Kyral | Goodnight MOTU | 06:44 |
| ajmitch | no way we can maintain all of universe | 06:44 |
| ajmitch | night Kyral | 06:44 |
| zakame | heya ajmitch :) what's up? | 06:44 |
| ajmitch | just playing around with the laptop | 06:44 |
| zakame | the new one? | 06:45 |
| ajmitch | yes | 06:46 |
| zakame | w00t :) | 06:46 |
| ajmitch | wireless works ok with hwcrypto disable | 06:46 |
| ajmitch | now I just need sound & battery | 06:46 |
| zakame | hehe, good for you :) | 06:47 |
| LaserJock | cya Kyral | 06:49 |
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| wadeb | hello, I've got a piece of GTK educational software I'm trying to package to ubuntu. is there a howto / reference available for doing this? most of my questions are simple things like setting an application icon in gnome and properly registering the mime file type. thanks in advance. | 07:13 |
| Burgundavia | wadeb, siretart does some wxwidgets stuff | 07:17 |
| Burgundavia | wadeb, and yes, there are not many channels I am not on | 07:17 |
| wadeb | burgindavia: lol...thx, I'll msg him | 07:17 |
| Treenaks | Burgundavia: there are?! | 07:30 |
| Treenaks | Burgundavia: +'nt? | 07:30 |
| Treenaks | Burgundavia: I always knew you were just an IRC bot ;) | 07:30 |
| Burgundavia | Treenaks, I am not a bot but I think Seveas is ;) | 07:31 |
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| ajmitch | hi viviersf | 08:17 |
| ajmitch | Mez: what did you mean in -devel? | 08:18 |
| Mez | ajmitch - the whole "Need for launchpad/Canonical Business Model" stuff | 08:18 |
| ajmitch | oh right | 08:18 |
| ajmitch | that's still going? | 08:18 |
| Mez | yeah | 08:18 |
| ajmitch | fun | 08:19 |
| Mez | It really gets to me though that some people seem to take such a slanted view on things. | 08:19 |
| === ajmitch goes to watch the car crash | ||
| Mez | Ubuntu cant do all the work - nor can debian | 08:19 |
| Mez | they both need to do woek | 08:19 |
| ajmitch | no kidding | 08:19 |
| Mez | and yeah - some bad eggs are spoiling it by not working with each other (both in Debian AND ubuntu) | 08:19 |
| Mez | but - for the most part - we try and work together | 08:19 |
| Mez | I've come up against a couple of DD's who arent willing to try and work with me on packages I work on | 08:20 |
| Mez | and I've come across DD's who are MORE than willing to - and even go beyond the "call of duty" and do extra stuff | 08:20 |
| Mez | It's not really an "ubuntu vs debian" thing | 08:20 |
| Mez | it's really - just those people who're spoiling it | 08:20 |
| Mez | I mean - I would post this to the list | 08:21 |
| Mez | but I know I'd get flamed | 08:21 |
| ajmitch | go ahead | 08:22 |
| ajmitch | wear your asbestos underwear | 08:22 |
| jsgotangco | nahh don't spread it further | 08:27 |
| jsgotangco | there will always be a dissenting opinion no matter the explanation | 08:27 |
| ajmitch | hehe >:) | 08:27 |
| ajmitch | which is why I've refrained from it | 08:28 |
| ajmitch | some ubuntu people & plenty of debian people annoy me ;) | 08:28 |
| Mez | ajmitch - I will post - I'm just going to be nice and stuff | 08:30 |
| Mithrandir | jsgotangco: also, some posts I've seen from ubuntu people, like the "Debian should move to launchpad" is more trolling than anything else. | 08:31 |
| ajmitch | Mithrandir: agreed, and it's quite understandable why debian will not move | 08:32 |
| Mez | Mithrandir, i dont see personally how ti could move to launchpad really ... | 08:32 |
| Mez | I can see how they could use it as a very useful tool - but not as their primary ... thing | 08:32 |
| ajmitch | some debian teams are using launchpad | 08:33 |
| Mithrandir | sure, and they're free to do that, but it's not like it should become an essential part of the debian infrastructure. | 08:33 |
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| ajmitch | however the debian team I know of is lead by a launchpad developer/admin :) | 08:34 |
| Mithrandir | they're free to use alioth or sf.net or groups.yahoo.com or whatever other services they feel like, but that's something else. | 08:34 |
| === Mez sends | ||
| viviersf | elo ajmitch | 08:36 |
| ajmitch | argh, just recalled there's a MOTU meeting in about 12h | 08:48 |
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| dholbach | good morning motu universe | 08:51 |
| Mez | can someone please express my apologies in the meeting? i have work - os won't be able to make it | 08:53 |
| ajmitch | Mez: MOTU meeting? | 08:53 |
| Mez | yeah | 08:53 |
| ajmitch | ok, will keep note | 08:53 |
| ajmitch | reminds me, I need to install tomboy on this laptop | 08:53 |
| Mez | o_O | 08:55 |
| Mez | The following packages will be REMOVED | 08:55 |
| Mez | kdebase-dev kdelibs4-dev | 08:55 |
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| ajmitch | yay! | 08:55 |
| ajmitch | Mez: find out which lib or -dev package is installing that they depend on | 08:55 |
| Mez | i'm guessing it's cause it'sinstalling the updated kdelibs | 08:56 |
| Mez | but - i woulda guesse d they'd be upgraded too - not removed | 08:56 |
| ajmitch | do it package by package if you can | 08:57 |
| Mez | *shrugs* | 08:57 |
| ajmitch | go through the suspects | 08:57 |
| Mez | I can reinstlal :D | 08:57 |
| ajmitch | or just wait :) | 08:57 |
| Mez | packages to be upgrade: foomatic-db-gimp-print ijsgimpprint kdelibs-bin kdelibs4c2a moodle | 08:58 |
| Mez | python2.4-gtk2 | 08:58 |
| ajmitch | upgrading from what? | 08:58 |
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| dholbach | slomo_, siretart, crimsun: I added the link to http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/media/ to Media/Testing - we should pick some of them to let Media/Testing take off | 10:09 |
| dholbach | slomo_, siretart, crimsun: I added Media/Testing on Testing as well | 10:09 |
| jsgotangco | its this just about testing what's avaiable (files that is) | 10:11 |
| ajmitch | sigh, someone on the debian pkg-zope list has done a zope 2.9 'upgrade', but it looks like all they've done is uupdate | 10:32 |
| ajmitch | and a fair bit of other mangling.. | 10:32 |
| === ajmitch hopes an official package is uploaded in the next few days | ||
| dholbach | jsgotangco: no, not all of them, that's why we need to select some | 10:33 |
| jsgotangco | ahh | 10:33 |
| === ajmitch can't believe we only have a week until UVF | ||
| StevenK | dpkg-source: cannot represent change to debian/rules: binary file contents changed | 10:37 |
| StevenK | Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr | 10:37 |
| StevenK | This package so hates me. | 10:37 |
| StevenK | Every time I try to fix it, it does something else fucked up. | 10:38 |
| ajmitch | uh, that's fairly screwy | 10:38 |
| ajmitch | why is it detecting debian/rules as binary? | 10:38 |
| ajmitch | screwed up encoding? | 10:38 |
| === ajmitch had better do another f-spot upload | ||
| === StevenK gives up on moin after screaming at it in frustration. | ||
| StevenK | Now, onto why albatross wants root privs to actually build. | 10:48 |
| StevenK | Bugger that, off to watch some TV. | 10:49 |
| dholbach | StevenK: enjoy :) | 10:53 |
| siretart | dholbach: rock! | 11:02 |
| dholbach | siretart: now we need to pick | 11:02 |
| siretart | dholbach: I will have a look at them this evening when I'm back from uni | 11:04 |
| ajmitch | hey siretart | 11:04 |
| siretart | huhu ajmitch | 11:04 |
| ajmitch | evening Hobbsee | 11:19 |
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| Hobbsee | evening ajmitch - how many hours till dapper devel meeting? seems my calculations keep getting different answers as to when it is | 11:20 |
| ajmitch | 2hrs & 20min ago | 11:20 |
| ajmitch | MOTU meeting in 9 hrs & 40min | 11:20 |
| ajmitch | so if you wanted to watch the devel status meeting, sorry | 11:21 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch: hehe, right - told you my calculations were screwed! oh well, i'll go read a transcript of it when one is uploaded | 11:21 |
| ajmitch | it should be online now | 11:22 |
| Hobbsee | ah, so it is :) | 11:22 |
| ajmitch | http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-meeting-current.html | 11:22 |
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| Hobbsee | yeah, got the link, thanks anyway :) | 11:29 |
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| ajmitch | morning \sh | 11:31 |
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| \sh | hey aj | 11:31 |
| ajmitch | how are you? | 11:31 |
| \sh | i'm feeling like a swine | 11:32 |
| ajmitch | oh? | 11:33 |
| \sh | Recently, a certain member of the MOTU team in ubuntu posted a blog post basically saying (from the | 11:34 |
| \sh | way it came across to me) that contributing back up to debian was a waste of our meagre resources. | 11:34 |
| \sh | quote of one of the mails in debian-devel...well...sometimes I wish I would have a bablefish to share | 11:35 |
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| ajmitch | btw pending upload of njam is in debian NEW | 11:36 |
| \sh | Mez: you should read properly...I never said "it's a waste.." I said, "Sometimes we don't have the time to think about it..." and "it's my personal opinion and my decision to do so" | 11:36 |
| \sh | ajmitch: actually I never saw a package in incoming | 11:36 |
| ajmitch | that's because incoming is once it's passed NEW | 11:37 |
| \sh | I thought it's the other way..no possibilty to see new NEW queue? | 11:37 |
| \sh | or better to check the packages in the NEW queue? | 11:38 |
| Mez | \sh: It's how it came across to me - I believe I did say that | 11:38 |
| ajmitch | \sh: http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html | 11:38 |
| ajmitch | Mez: and stating your view of someone else's blog entry without talking to them, on a public mailing list? | 11:39 |
| ajmitch | 'feel free to target those people'.. just not fair | 11:39 |
| Mez | o_O | 11:40 |
| \sh | Mez: yes...but it's interpretated the wrong way...I do contribute back...but when and why, it's my decision. | 11:40 |
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| Mez | I seriously didnt mean it to come across as a personal attack on you \sh - I'm sorry if it did | 11:40 |
| \sh | Mez: so don't put all MOTUs in one boat, because of my blog post...it's my opinion | 11:40 |
| Mez | \sh: I never did put all MOTU's in one boat. | 11:40 |
| Mez | gah | 11:40 |
| \sh | Mez: well..that is the problem, that those people discussing right there and now are understanding everything wrong, because the most of them don't know | 11:41 |
| \sh | Mez: but it can be read like that | 11:41 |
| ajmitch | this whole sorry episode hasn't been good for anyone | 11:42 |
| \sh | Mez: it's a matter of fact, that it doesn't matter what we do, if or if not contributing back, it's always wrong...but only for a small ammount of package maintainers. but those are discussion right now with matt and others...that's why it's dangerous to put peoples own opinions into this discussion | 11:43 |
| \sh | s/discussion/discussing/ | 11:43 |
| \sh | and that's why i'm refusing to reply publicly again on this debian-devel ML...nevertheless, i'm in discussion with some people via privat mail. | 11:44 |
| \sh | to show them that they're actually telling not the truth when they say "ubuntu is not contributing back or not sending patches in" | 11:45 |
| \sh | ok..end of story for this... | 11:45 |
| Mez | \sh - again - sorry if it seemed like a personal attack at you - it really wasnt meant like that | 11:45 |
| Mez | I've sent another email to try and clarify | 11:46 |
| Mez | lol - though knowing me it'll make it worse | 11:46 |
| ajmitch | as long as you don't use lol, :D, o_O or anything else like that, it should be fine | 11:46 |
| \sh | Mez: i'm not taking it personal...but to put things straight, I can discuss it with you here :) so, forget about it :) | 11:47 |
| Mez | \sh :d no problems :D glad you dont see it like that (seriously till it was mentioned here - I didnt realise it could have been taken that way!) | 11:48 |
| azeem | what is remarkable is that Joey Hess and Steve Langasek joined the ranks of those not buying the "Ubuntu is contributing back to Debian" line | 11:48 |
| ajmitch | it's a thread that should die soon | 11:49 |
| ajmitch | I hope | 11:49 |
| \sh | actually, if joey wasn't ranting about how "dirty and difficult it is to merge back ubuntus patches into debian" I would think, he's right, but after reading some blogpost of him and some ranting on debian-devel, i think there are alot of patches flewing back to him directly... | 11:49 |
| ogra | azeem, havent they always been in that line ? | 11:49 |
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| \sh | ok...it's enough of this stupid and childish topic...I took the bait once, I will never do it again. full stop. | 11:52 |
| Mez | \sh: you emailed ? | 11:54 |
| Nafallo | the flamewars of debian is why I'm here instead ;-) | 11:54 |
| Mez | Nafallo, yes - this is why we have a CoC | 11:54 |
| ajmitch | Mez: no, we'll let it die, please | 11:54 |
| \sh | Mez: it's because somehow of me why this topic started to be stupid | 11:55 |
| Mez | ajmitch, I thought by him saying "he took the bait" he emailed back | 11:55 |
| ajmitch | Mez: no | 11:55 |
| \sh | Mez: but reading the other replies I decided to stop mailing to d-d ever again | 11:55 |
| \sh | Mez: read the whole thread | 11:55 |
| Mez | \sh: yeah - the replies in it are like ... wank | 11:55 |
| Mez | \sh: I have | 11:55 |
| ajmitch | argh | 11:55 |
| ajmitch | just drop it :P | 11:55 |
| Mez | I'd hate to see the d-p mailing list atm | 11:55 |
| Mez | but yeah | 11:56 |
| ajmitch | everyone go upload packages or something | 11:56 |
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| === \sh has to work on sunday and monday for a friends service... | ||
| \sh | earning some money...which is actually nice | 11:56 |
| Mez | \sh: at least you get to see daylight :d lol - this is the first time I've seen daylight in ... 3 months | 11:57 |
| Mez | and thats only cause like - I cant sleep | 11:57 |
| Nafallo | :-O | 11:57 |
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| sivang | \sh: nice to hear that, what kind of service? online? | 12:09 |
| \sh | a mobile entertainment service..a la jamba.. | 12:10 |
| \sh | but only for 2 days.. | 12:10 |
| \sh | it means 48h duty service...which means some money :) | 12:10 |
| Gloubiboulga | someone could review this: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1473 ? | 12:14 |
| sivang | \sh: cool, are you going to give RF fix services, service radio lines etc? | 12:17 |
| \sh | sivang: nono..only the normal "too much traffic on the machines, machine is crashing, please watch, take care and restart services" | 12:18 |
| sivang | \sh: ah , that's should be easy enough and allow you to work on packages while in there then ;-) ? | 12:18 |
| \sh | sivang: sure | 12:18 |
| \sh | trying to fix again python-kde3 | 12:18 |
| sivang | \sh: I've started looking again at KDE, I'm telling you, X-Composite is so sweet there plus Kuake :) | 12:22 |
| \sh | sivang: both desktop enviroments have advantages and disadvantages...mixing them gives you a lot more fun :) | 12:23 |
| sivang | \sh: I can imagine, I will try install kuake and work with it for a bit. | 12:26 |
| ajmitch | kuake? sounds interesting | 12:31 |
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| sivang | ajmitch: KDE has it :) | 12:34 |
| ajmitch | has what? | 12:37 |
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| sivang | ajmitch: sorry, I mean, X-Composite works and is utilized nicely in KDE, a co-worker is uing it on a debian sid box | 12:38 |
| ajmitch | right.. | 12:38 |
| ajmitch | I'm meaning xserver support | 12:38 |
| ajmitch | which apparantly is still lacking a bit on i810 | 12:39 |
| sivang | ajmitch: well, he did disable some of the feature which made his display slow , but things like shadows and smooth edges etc.. | 12:39 |
| \sh | ajmitch: can you do me a big big favour | 12:40 |
| ajmitch | \sh: what? | 12:40 |
| \sh | ajmitch: sponsoring a package into debian? pykdeextensions? it's already in kubuntu... | 12:41 |
| \sh | ajmitch: http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/pykdeextensions/ | 12:41 |
| \sh | http://sponsors.debian.net/viewpkg.php?id=139 | 12:41 |
| \sh | http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-kde/kde-extras/pykdeextensions/trunk/debian/?rev=0&sc=0 | 12:41 |
| ajmitch | that is a big big favour | 12:41 |
| \sh | ajmitch: I know..but it would help the maintainer of pykdeextensions for kubuntu and debian (it's the same person) :) | 12:42 |
| ajmitch | how much will that person pay me? | 12:42 |
| \sh | ajmitch: and actually it would help to decrease the diff between debian and ubuntu/kubuntu | 12:42 |
| viviersf | lol | 12:42 |
| \sh | ajmitch: I'll take some of your packages to merge? | 12:42 |
| viviersf | ajmitch, everything must be free ;p | 12:42 |
| ajmitch | hah | 12:42 |
| ajmitch | \sh: I think I've only got zope packages left | 12:43 |
| \sh | ajmitch: the maintainer doesn't know anything of my sos to you :) | 12:43 |
| ajmitch | the others are still open due to FTBFS on an arch or similar | 12:43 |
| \sh | ajmitch: ok...so you have time :) | 12:43 |
| ajmitch | yes, I have time to do about 50 uploads in 5 days | 12:43 |
| \sh | ajmitch: thank you soooo much :) | 12:43 |
| sivang | ajmitch: rather try yakuake, it's sweet | 12:44 |
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| ajmitch | \sh: it's after midnight right now, so it mightbe something for the morning :) | 12:45 |
| \sh | ajmitch: would be nice if you could help somehow :) | 12:45 |
| \sh | Fathi Boudra <fboudra@free.fr> is the guy who needs your attention :) | 12:45 |
| ajmitch | yes, I saw | 12:45 |
| ajmitch | I'm looking at it now | 12:45 |
| ajmitch | and wondering why it's libpythonize0-dev | 12:46 |
| \sh | ajmitch: you rock :) | 12:46 |
| \sh | ajmitch: because it makes kcontrol modules possible :) | 12:46 |
| ajmitch | why the 0? | 12:46 |
| \sh | because it can change to 1 or 2 in the future :) | 12:46 |
| ajmitch | hm, it's ok | 12:46 |
| \sh | depending on the lib version | 12:47 |
| ajmitch | I see it's better to not name it libpythonize-dev | 12:47 |
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| \sh | ajmitch: riddell helped to develop the package i think so it's more then sane imho | 12:47 |
| ajmitch | the -dev package doesn't depend on python2.4-dev? | 12:48 |
| ajmitch | should it? | 12:48 |
| ajmitch | what headers are needed to use the -dev package here? | 12:48 |
| === ajmitch builds it in a sid pbuilder for extra check | ||
| \sh | everything it's in...python-kde3 is a build-dep and a requirement for the package...so everything will be included what it needs | 12:49 |
| \sh | python-kde3 is the meta package depending on the default python version | 12:49 |
| ajmitch | but this requires python2.4 | 12:50 |
| ajmitch | not the default | 12:50 |
| Riddell | is ajmitch a DD? | 12:50 |
| ajmitch | yes | 12:50 |
| Riddell | interesting... :) | 12:50 |
| ajmitch | uh oh :) | 12:50 |
| \sh | ajmitch: on ubuntu it requires python2.4 which is included in python-kde3 | 12:50 |
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| \sh | and python-sip4-dev | 12:51 |
| === ajmitch is just watching pbuilder pollute the apt cache with kde packages :) | ||
| \sh | Riddell: the good thing about it, we know who to ask for help :)(regarding bringing in packages from ubuntu to debian) | 12:52 |
| ajmitch | oh, you mean StevenK? ;) | 12:53 |
| \sh | and I'm patching again kconfigskeleton issues of python-kde3...as I saw yesterday, upstream never fixed it correctly..he fixed the segfault, but not the error at all | 12:53 |
| \sh | ajmitch: it will alternate between you and stevenk | 12:53 |
| ajmitch | there are at least 3 other DDs who are around here | 12:54 |
| Riddell | \sh: what's needed to get the KDE 3.5 API in pykde? | 12:54 |
| \sh | Riddell: well...at least updates from upstream for bringing in kde 3.4.2/4.3/3.5 | 12:55 |
| \sh | support | 12:55 |
| \sh | Riddell: the problem is, pykde is no revenue project of upstream, only pyqt | 12:55 |
| === ajmitch waits for kde crack to build | ||
| ajmitch | \sh: to think that I used to be a kde crack-of-the-day junkie | 12:56 |
| ajmitch | my 400MHz box used to run hot compiling kde crack every night ;) | 12:57 |
| \sh | ajmitch: *g* | 12:57 |
| dholbach | poor box | 12:57 |
| ajmitch | that box still runs | 12:57 |
| dholbach | i threatened my 350 box with xubuntu but it coped nicely | 12:57 |
| ajmitch | it has an uptime of > 1 year on a pre-hoary kernel ;) | 12:57 |
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| \sh | woohooo...python-kde3 works now correctly.. | 01:01 |
| \sh | after I applied a patch from 2004 again *gnarf* | 01:01 |
| ajmitch | heh | 01:02 |
| ajmitch | ok, sleep time | 01:02 |
| ajmitch | will try & get many uploads done tomorrow ;) | 01:02 |
| === ajmitch has a few ready for debian as well as ubuntu | ||
| \sh | ajmitch: if it's ok, then please sponsor pykdeextensions :) thx :) | 01:04 |
| \sh | ajmitch: and have a good night :) | 01:04 |
| Gloubiboulga | Riddell, sistpoty has advocated my package, could you have a look at it once again ? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1468 | 01:08 |
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| Tonio_ | siretart: ping ? | 01:10 |
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| \sh | Gloubiboulga: looks good :) | 01:20 |
| Gloubiboulga | thanks \sh :) | 01:20 |
| \sh | Gloubiboulga: uploading it now :) | 01:20 |
| Gloubiboulga | cool :D | 01:21 |
| segfault | Are you guys advocating now? | 01:22 |
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| raphink | hey I had an idea for an emblem for the motumergers team | 02:05 |
| raphink | very simple idea | 02:05 |
| raphink | http://raphink.free.fr/motumergers/ | 02:09 |
| raphink | I'm very bad with graphic stuff though :( | 02:09 |
| raphink | \sh: what do you think ? | 02:09 |
| raphink | ;) | 02:09 |
| \sh | what? | 02:11 |
| raphink | http://raphink.free.fr/motumergers/ | 02:11 |
| raphink | just had fun working on an emblem for the motumergers team on lp ;) | 02:11 |
| raphink | very simple idea : merging the debian and ubuntu log ;) | 02:11 |
| raphink | logos | 02:11 |
| raphink | not sure it looks nice :s | 02:11 |
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| azeem | raphink: it's pretty hard to figure out at that size | 02:17 |
| azeem | an animated .gif would be nice :P | 02:17 |
| raphink | azeem: well I did them at that size because that's how they are on LP | 02:18 |
| raphink | LP emblems are 16x16 PNGs | 02:18 |
| azeem | yeah ok, but still :) | 02:18 |
| raphink | haha | 02:18 |
| raphink | ;) | 02:18 |
| raphink | well | 02:18 |
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| raphink | what's the use of making a bigger one if only the small one will be used ? | 02:19 |
| raphink | azeem: you get the idea though ;) | 02:19 |
| \sh | what is it? | 02:19 |
| raphink | \sh: the idea? | 02:19 |
| \sh | raphink: is it a debian symbol on top of the ubuntu logo? | 02:19 |
| raphink | well the idea is to merge both logos | 02:20 |
| raphink | so my first attempt is to try to put them one on the other :s | 02:20 |
| raphink | I'm very bad at graphic stuff | 02:20 |
| \sh | I hope there will be no problems with it | 02:20 |
| raphink | hmm | 02:20 |
| raphink | well | 02:20 |
| raphink | the utnubu team uses both logos aswell | 02:20 |
| raphink | http://raphink.free.fr/motumergers/ | 02:21 |
| raphink | oops | 02:21 |
| raphink | http://www.pro-linux.de/NB2/images/indiv/utnubu.png | 02:21 |
| raphink | there | 02:21 |
| \sh | is it really the official logo of utnubu? | 02:21 |
| azeem | I think that was pro-linux who did that | 02:21 |
| \sh | or is it from pro-linux self made | 02:21 |
| raphink | oh ok | 02:21 |
| === StevenK growls at albatross. | ||
| raphink | Bildmontage, kein offizielles Logo Ren van Bevern | 02:22 |
| raphink | right | 02:22 |
| StevenK | Not only can't it build if you aren't root, the packaging is complete and utter crap too. | 02:22 |
| StevenK | I'm suprised the fricken Build-Depends are right. | 02:22 |
| \sh | StevenK: albatross? | 02:22 |
| StevenK | Some useless python module. | 02:23 |
| \sh | doesn't it work with fakeroot ? | 02:23 |
| StevenK | \sh: The FTBFS is due to a packaging error. | 02:23 |
| raphink | so ok I guess merging the logos is no good idea ;) | 02:23 |
| raphink | forget it ;) | 02:23 |
| StevenK | It tries to create a file in /var/log | 02:23 |
| \sh | StevenK: bah... | 02:23 |
| StevenK | Which, duh, fails. | 02:23 |
| \sh | StevenK: who is the package maintainer/ | 02:23 |
| \sh | ? | 02:23 |
| StevenK | Fabian Fagerholm <fabbe@debian.org> | 02:24 |
| \sh | StevenK: well...good to know :) | 02:25 |
| \sh | at least no bug we invented :) | 02:25 |
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| StevenK | Right. :-) | 02:26 |
| StevenK | Now I get to ram the fixes down his throat. | 02:26 |
| StevenK | I wish my @u.c address so I could wave that in his face. | 02:26 |
| StevenK | s/\(address\)/\1 worked/ | 02:26 |
| StevenK | \sh: If this thing builds and installs, can I get you to upload it? | 02:27 |
| \sh | StevenK: sure | 02:27 |
| StevenK | Thanks. | 02:27 |
| \sh | StevenK: don't do this...it would only raise more violent rants...and I'm tired of it... | 02:27 |
| StevenK | I've been ignoring it, it works for me. | 02:28 |
| StevenK | I'm > < close to unsub'ing from -devel anyway | 02:28 |
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| StevenK | Right. Fixed. | 02:31 |
| \sh | StevenK: debdiff ? | 02:32 |
| StevenK | \sh: http://wedontsleep.org/~steven/albatross_1.33-1ubuntu1.debdiff | 02:34 |
| StevenK | I was preparing it. | 02:34 |
| \sh | done | 02:35 |
| StevenK | Danke | 02:36 |
| StevenK | With that, I go to bed. | 02:37 |
| \sh | good night StevenK | 02:39 |
| ogra | pfft, so the domain name is only a fake ? | 02:41 |
| \sh | which domain name? | 02:43 |
| \sh | oh wedontsleep | 02:43 |
| ogra | :) | 02:44 |
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| sistpoty | hi folks | 02:46 |
| Gloubiboulga | hey sistpoty | 02:46 |
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| \sh | what a joke | 02:47 |
| \sh | an NMU in ubuntu ;) at least a type of : | 02:47 |
| \sh | Maintainer: Fabian Fagerholm <fabbe@debian.org> | 02:47 |
| \sh | Changed-By: Steve Kowalik <stevenk@debian.org> | 02:47 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 02:47 |
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| Riddell | someone care to update swfdec? http://www.schleef.org/swfdec/download/ | 03:05 |
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| Kyral | Morning MOTU | 03:07 |
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| raphink | hmmf | 03:07 |
| raphink | hi Kyral | 03:07 |
| Kyral | sup? | 03:07 |
| raphink | hmm | 03:07 |
| raphink | trying to find out how I can send an html page by email | 03:08 |
| raphink | that has a link to an image | 03:08 |
| raphink | so you can open the page and see the image | 03:08 |
| raphink | without having to make a tarball | 03:08 |
| raphink | ;) | 03:08 |
| raphink | lol | 03:08 |
| raphink | nothing to do with motu work as you see ;) | 03:08 |
| Kyral | lol | 03:08 |
| Kyral | multipart MIME? | 03:08 |
| raphink | hmm | 03:09 |
| raphink | what do you mean? | 03:09 |
| Kyral | I dunno I just heard that in my Linux Cookbook | 03:09 |
| Kyral | gimme a sec to pull it out | 03:09 |
| raphink | haha | 03:09 |
| raphink | ;) | 03:09 |
| raphink | ok | 03:09 |
| Kyral | hmm | 03:10 |
| Kyral | it uses the Mail command | 03:10 |
| raphink | :s | 03:11 |
| raphink | well it doesn't matter much actually I'm sending to it to clever people ;) | 03:11 |
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| Kyral | You could always download the page and edit the markup to use the absolute link to the image | 03:11 |
| raphink | yes | 03:12 |
| raphink | well uploading the image somewhere and using an absolute link that is | 03:12 |
| raphink | that's an option :) | 03:12 |
| Kyral | yah | 03:13 |
| \sh | Riddell: doing it | 03:13 |
| Kyral | or an absolute link to the image itself (the original location) | 03:13 |
| raphink | yes | 03:14 |
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| === sistpoty is off again... cya tonight | ||
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| thierry_ | what's elmo e-mail? | 03:34 |
| \sh | james at ubuntu.com | 03:37 |
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| thierry_ | anyone who could review my package? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1414 | 04:31 |
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| Yagisan | G'day All | 04:32 |
| thierry_ | hi | 04:33 |
| thierry_ | when is the final date for package to ge in for dapper? | 04:34 |
| Yagisan | thierry_: new or merge ? | 04:34 |
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| thierry_ | new | 04:36 |
| raphink | thierry_: the 19th | 04:37 |
| raphink | next week that is ;) | 04:37 |
| thierry_ | mmm that's soon | 04:38 |
| raphink | yes indeed | 04:38 |
| thierry_ | I have a package waiting only REVU | 04:38 |
| Yagisan | raphink: hmm, that means I should be whipping motu's to advocate my packages then. Care to revu anything I posted (ia32-lib-universe perhaps ;) ) | 04:38 |
| raphink | yep ;) | 04:38 |
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| thierry_ | ogra, ogra_ibook : could you review my package? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1414 | 04:40 |
| === Yagisan thinks wine just likes to mock me | ||
| === Yagisan finally gets it to install on amd64, without chroot to be greeted with | ||
| Yagisan | wine: failed to initialize: /usr/lib/wine/ntdll.dll.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 04:43 |
| Yagisan | :( damm hardcoded libary paths | 04:44 |
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| Yagisan | G'day all. I have a packaging question that I hope you can help me with. I need to build multiple copies of a package with different configure options, for a debhelperised rules file. The package currently builds 1 binary package from source, but this will need to change. | 05:11 |
| Yagisan | I looked at glibcs rules file, as I know it makes multiple binaries from 1 source, but that was a bit too advanced for me to understand | 05:12 |
| Yagisan | Can anyone suggest a package that already builds it's source with one set of config flags, the cleans, and builds again with another ? | 05:13 |
| azeem | most packages do that by having two build trees | 05:13 |
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| buxy | Yagisan: check another simpler package, maybe "dia" | 05:14 |
| azeem | like, "mkdir build-foo && cd build-foo && ../configure --enable-foo" | 05:14 |
| azeem | same for bar | 05:14 |
| Yagisan | ahh | 05:14 |
| azeem | it helps if the build system supports out-of-tree builds, which some do not | 05:14 |
| Yagisan | buxy: grabbing dia now. | 05:14 |
| Yagisan | azeem: well I'll find out soon ;) | 05:15 |
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| Yagisan | buxy, azeem thanks for your advice | 05:16 |
| Yagisan | buxy: dia seems very instructive, thank you. now to nuke my mistakes, and try again | 05:19 |
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| lucas | hi universe :) | 05:25 |
| hub | hi multiverse | 05:28 |
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| Kyral | yo | 05:31 |
| thierry_ | Kyral : hi, could you review my package http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1414 ? | 05:33 |
| raphink | no he can't thierry_ ;) | 05:33 |
| Kyral | I'm not a reviewer | 05:33 |
| thierry_ | :( | 05:33 |
| raphink | thierry_: I could review it, but not advocate | 05:34 |
| thierry_ | raphink : that's better than nothing, that would show me if something is wrong or not | 05:34 |
| raphink | sure | 05:34 |
| Kyral | hmm | 05:35 |
| Kyral | if the program includes Python.. | 05:35 |
| Kyral | should I call dh_python | 05:35 |
| tseng | if y ou want to use ${python:Depends} | 05:38 |
| Kyral | yah I changed it up | 05:39 |
| Kyral | whee uploaded to REVU | 05:49 |
| raphink | thierry_: I'm reviewing | 05:50 |
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| lucas | thierry_: good! after spamming this channel for several days now, somebody gave up and is reviewing your package. You should be happy. Can we move to more important stuff now ? | 05:56 |
| raphink | lol | 05:57 |
| raphink | lucas: mdr ;) | 05:57 |
| raphink | I'm afraid I'm gonna give him work though lucas ;) | 05:58 |
| raphink | these libs take hours to build | 05:58 |
| lucas | also, maybe we should ask somebody from MOTURuby to review the package. I don't really want to have thierry's package in the archive, since he said himself that he wasn't interested in it, he just wanted it in because it's a dependency of another package | 06:00 |
| raphink | ic | 06:00 |
| raphink | thierry_: comments sent | 06:00 |
| thierry_ | lucas : sorry for spamming, I just want to get my package in before dapper | 06:12 |
| lucas | how many merges/syncs have you done so far ? | 06:13 |
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| LaserJock | dholbach: ping? | 06:17 |
| dholbach | LaserJock: pong | 06:17 |
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| Kyral | yo | 06:23 |
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| Yagisan | \sh: wine patch not yet ready. It ran into a snag when I installed it on amd64, and I need to redo my packaging strategy for it. I'm moving to a multiple build system, with different configure flags | 06:29 |
| \sh | what snag? | 06:29 |
| Yagisan | \sh: libwine.so looks for it's libs in the wrong spot | 06:30 |
| \sh | wonderful :) | 06:30 |
| Yagisan | \sh: yeah, not. | 06:31 |
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| Yagisan | night all | 06:38 |
| Riddell | why has my pbuilder suddently started going wonky? | 06:45 |
| Riddell | -> copying [chroot/dapper32/root/kdelibs/kdelibs_3.5.0-0ubuntu9_source.changes] | 06:45 |
| Riddell | -> copying [chroot/dapper32/root/kdelibs/libs] | 06:45 |
| Riddell | cp: cannot stat `chroot/dapper32/root/kdelibs/libs': No such file or directory | 06:45 |
| Kyral | I'm wondering when Emacs got a Sources.list mode | 06:46 |
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| Kyral | oh it was in debian-el | 06:50 |
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| tseng | koke: woo! | 07:04 |
| Kyral | MOTU Meeting today? | 07:06 |
| dholbach | when do we start? 2 hours? | 07:08 |
| Kyral | yah | 07:08 |
| Kyral | 20:00 UTC | 07:08 |
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| Kyral | what does diff return if the files are the same? | 07:36 |
| Kyral | like if I wanted to make an if condition on it | 07:36 |
| azeem | try? :) | 07:37 |
| Kyral | lol | 07:37 |
| Kyral | I did, in bash its nothing | 07:37 |
| Kyral | so assume 0 lol | 07:37 |
| azeem | nothing? | 07:37 |
| Kyral | like <command> then just newlines to the prompt | 07:37 |
| azeem | castor~$ diff /dev/null /dev/null | 07:37 |
| azeem | castor~$ echo $? | 07:37 |
| azeem | 0 | 07:37 |
| Kyral | lol | 07:38 |
| Kyral | okay | 07:38 |
| Kyral | Didn't know that trick | 07:38 |
| Kyral | ty | 07:38 |
| sivang | Kyral: what are you writing ? :) | 07:41 |
| Kyral | maintenance script for the lab | 07:44 |
| Kyral | or rather the postinst | 07:44 |
| Kyral | I basically wanna say if then files related to AFS are different (ie, new versions from the package) then stop AFS, else don't | 07:45 |
| Kyral | so I avoid knocking people off when the update cronjob hits | 07:45 |
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| Kyral | hey LJ | 07:50 |
| LaserJock | hi Kyral | 07:51 |
| lucas | MOTU meeting is one hour from now right ? | 07:52 |
| === lucas always has issues with UTC ;) | ||
| Kyral | yah | 07:52 |
| === LaserJock does too | ||
| Kyral | Oh I <3 responsive upstream! | 07:52 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: me too, I also like responsive Debian | 07:53 |
| Kyral | lol | 07:54 |
| Kyral | That reminds me that I need to file a RFS for Easychem | 07:54 |
| LaserJock | It took me 2 days to get plotdrop uploaded to Sid | 07:54 |
| Kyral | Did you file a ITP for Plotdrop? | 07:54 |
| LaserJock | sure | 07:55 |
| Kyral | mind linking so I can use it as a Template? :P | 07:55 |
| LaserJock | sure, just a sec | 07:55 |
| \sh | cheers guys | 07:57 |
| LaserJock | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=347330 is the ITP and http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2006/01/msg00096.html is the RFS | 07:58 |
| Ubugtu | Debian bug 347330: "plotdrop -- A minimal GNOME frontend to GNUPlot" Package: ITP, Severity: wishlist, Maintainer: wnpp@debian.org</a http://bugs.debian.org/347330 | 07:58 |
| Kyral | so an ITP is a bugreport? | 08:00 |
| LaserJock | yes | 08:00 |
| === Kyral blinks | ||
| Kyral | stupid question but where is the bug report for Debian? | 08:01 |
| \sh | Kyral: bugs.debian.org/wnpp | 08:01 |
| Kyral | nm... | 08:01 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: I have links on MOTUScience | 08:01 |
| Kyral | ah | 08:02 |
| Kyral | Feel free to smack me | 08:02 |
| LaserJock | I used reportbug and it worked really well | 08:02 |
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| LaserJock | once I installed exim :( | 08:02 |
| Kyral | lol | 08:03 |
| Kyral | I have debian-el installed for Emacs so :D | 08:03 |
| LaserJock | does debian-el do bug reports too? | 08:04 |
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| Kyral | According to the page | 08:04 |
| LaserJock | dang it, I think debian-el might be the only reason I would use emacs anymore | 08:04 |
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| Kyral | lol | 08:05 |
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| Kyral | It even has a debian-bug-intent-to-package | 08:05 |
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| phanatic | hi people | 08:05 |
| LaserJock | hi phanatic | 08:06 |
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| astronut | I'm a debian package maintainer, and i noticed my packages made it into universe...if there is any diff, it should be in people.u.c/~scott/patches right? | 08:07 |
| astronut | and if it's not, there've been no changes? | 08:07 |
| phanatic | i've packaged a small gnome applet. could somebody review it? | 08:07 |
| Kyral | Should I cc the bug report to debian-devel? | 08:07 |
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| LaserJock | astronut: if there isn't an -ubuntuX version on your package in Ubuntu then we haven't touched it | 08:09 |
| siretart | Kyral: the itp? no, that goes automatically to debian-devel | 08:09 |
| astronut | LaserJock: ah, ok | 08:09 |
| === astronut also isn't so sure you want graphmonkey | ||
| astronut | that package's upstream isn't in great shape | 08:09 |
| astronut | there's a new version, but someone expressed interest in adopting, so they were going to package it | 08:09 |
| astronut | and i haven't updated my packages because of this | 08:10 |
| LaserJock | astronut: but if we were to touch it then it would be in p.u.c/~scott/patches/ | 08:10 |
| astronut | LaserJock: thanks | 08:10 |
| phanatic | i should upload to revu, right? (sorry for being lame, but my first package for ubuntu) | 08:12 |
| Gloubiboulga | phanatic, yep | 08:12 |
| phanatic | Gloubiboulga: thx | 08:13 |
| Kyral | siretart: Emacs asked :P | 08:13 |
| LaserJock | is it Bug Day today? | 08:14 |
| Kyral | now how do I send the report... | 08:15 |
| Gloubiboulga | LaserJock, it was yesterday | 08:15 |
| Kyral | in emacs lol | 08:15 |
| LaserJock | dohhh | 08:15 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: emacs is only the solution when you know how to use it ;-) | 08:15 |
| chninkel | Kyral: why can't you use reportbug ? It can't be configured to use a smtp server | 08:18 |
| chninkel | Kyral: s/can't/can/ | 08:18 |
| Kyral | chninkel: Because I <3 Emacs :P | 08:18 |
| LaserJock | oppps, /me forgot to include links on the MOTUScience lists | 08:19 |
| chninkel | Kyral: :) oh ok | 08:19 |
| Kyral | I should install a MTA | 08:22 |
| Kyral | how should I config exim for POP3? | 08:23 |
| Treenaks | exim doesn't do pop3 | 08:25 |
| Treenaks | exim does SMTP | 08:25 |
| Kyral | oh | 08:25 |
| === Kyral blinks | ||
| Kyral | this whole Fetchmail MTA thing is new to me lol | 08:25 |
| Kyral | So I setup Fetchmail to get the stuff from my POP3 servers, then setup exim to use Fetchmail? | 08:26 |
| Treenaks | Kyral: no | 08:26 |
| Treenaks | you configure fetchmail to get mail from a pop3 account, and poke it into your exim :) | 08:26 |
| Kyral | and sending mail? | 08:26 |
| Treenaks | through your local exim, or a smarthost ('your provider's SMTP server') | 08:27 |
| Kyral | so I need Sendmail for sending it to the SMTP server | 08:27 |
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| Treenaks | exim does that part | 08:27 |
| Treenaks | it's basically a sendmail replacement | 08:27 |
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| Kyral | all I want to do is read my email with my console lol | 08:28 |
| Treenaks | Kyral: get it on an IMAP server and use mutt ;) | 08:28 |
| Kyral | lol | 08:28 |
| Kyral | Gmail doesn't do IMAP | 08:28 |
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| Treenaks | don't use that then | 08:28 |
| Kyral | and Fetchmail runs as a daemon then? | 08:28 |
| Treenaks | it could | 08:29 |
| Treenaks | it can also run from cron | 08:29 |
| Kyral | okay...so I am in fetchmailconf | 08:31 |
| Kyral | Local Names is the username whose mailbox I want it to be dropped to right? | 08:32 |
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| Kyral | I have it setup, but both my accoutns are giving me SMTP errors | 08:48 |
| chninkel | Kyral: you're talking about fetchmail or exim ? | 08:49 |
| Kyral | Fetchmail | 08:49 |
| Kyral | at the end it says "fetchmail: Query Status=10 (SMTP)" | 08:49 |
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| sistpoty | hi folks | 08:50 |
| chninkel | Kyral: is exim working ? | 08:50 |
| \sh | 10 mins to meeting :) | 08:50 |
| Kyral | not yet lol | 08:50 |
| LaserJock | hi sistpoty | 08:50 |
| Kyral | didn't set it up | 08:50 |
| chninkel | Kyral: so that's the reason of the SMTP error | 08:50 |
| Kyral | setting up exim | 08:51 |
| Gloubiboulga | \sh, meeting is public ? | 08:51 |
| sistpoty | Gloubiboulga: yes | 08:51 |
| \sh | Gloubiboulga: all meetings are public | 08:51 |
| Gloubiboulga | cool | 08:51 |
| \sh | we don't have any secrets | 08:51 |
| Kyral | how do I find out the "visible" mail name of my computer? | 08:51 |
| Gloubiboulga | what is the chan ? | 08:51 |
| \sh | #ubuntu-meeting | 08:51 |
| Gloubiboulga | thanks | 08:51 |
| raphink | #ubuntu-meeting | 08:52 |
| raphink | for all meetings | 08:52 |
| raphink | well most actually | 08:52 |
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| LaserJock | Kyral: i didn't get very far in #ubuntu when I tried :( | 08:52 |
| Kyral | LaserJock: what did you set as the visible mail name for your system? | 08:52 |
| Gloubiboulga | sistpoty, thanks for advocating my package btw | 08:53 |
| sistpoty | np... I guess the french homepage confused me a little bit with the right tar.gz ;) | 08:53 |
| sistpoty | (I don't speak french) | 08:53 |
| Gloubiboulga | sistpoty, np | 08:53 |
| chninkel | Kyral: not really important unless you receive directly mail from outside I think | 08:53 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: I honestly can't remember | 08:53 |
| Kyral | chninkel: so just set it to local host or whatever? | 08:54 |
| chninkel | Kyral: put your computer name | 08:54 |
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| Kyral | okay.. | 08:55 |
| Kyral | what machine will act as a smart host..? | 08:55 |
| LaserJock | your SMTP server | 08:55 |
| Kyral | so mail.gmail.com? | 08:56 |
| LaserJock | probably | 08:56 |
| Kyral | I can have multiple SMTP servers right? | 08:57 |
| LaserJock | not sure, I would imagine. One is enough for me ;-) | 08:57 |
| Kyral | College + GMail | 08:58 |
| LaserJock | well, I only send out using 1 | 08:58 |
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| lucas | *** MOTU meeting on #ubuntu-meeting NOW! *** | 08:59 |
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| Kyral | ... | 08:59 |
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| Kyral | okay...it never asked for the Username +Pass for smtp.gmail.com | 09:00 |
| chninkel | Kyral: it will not work | 09:01 |
| Kyral | okaaay | 09:01 |
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| chninkel | Kyral: you'll have to manually modify the exim config file | 09:01 |
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| chninkel | Kyral: can't you use your provider smtp server ? | 09:01 |
| Kyral | chninkel: I have my college SMTP server | 09:02 |
| Kyral | but I send GMail stuff through them | 09:02 |
| Kyral | because they are nasty, blocking a lot of email addresses | 09:02 |
| chninkel | Kyral: configure a smtp server which doesn't need auth | 09:02 |
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| Kyral | both need auth | 09:05 |
| chninkel | Kyral: so you'll have to study exim doc or find a howto | 09:06 |
| Kyral | or use a different MTA... | 09:06 |
| LaserJock | Kyral: do you just want to send emails out? | 09:07 |
| Kyral | yah to the servers | 09:07 |
| LaserJock | http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/virtual/mail-transport-agent | 09:08 |
| Kyral | yah I'm thinking sendmail | 09:09 |
| LaserJock | what about esmtp or masqmail? | 09:09 |
| Kyral | I dunno | 09:09 |
| chninkel | Kyral: sendmail is not really simple toc configure | 09:09 |
| LaserJock | esmtp was really easy, if you want to just send mail to your SMTP server | 09:10 |
| chninkel | LaserJock: he also wants to receive mail locally | 09:11 |
| Kyral | I have Fetchmail | 09:11 |
| chninkel | Kyral: but I think fetchmail needs a local smtp server which will deliver to the mail spool | 09:12 |
| Mithrandir | chninkel: no, it doesn't, it can deliver to maildrop or procmail directly. | 09:12 |
| Kyral | how do you configure estmp? | 09:12 |
| LaserJock | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/esmtp/esmtp/sample.esmtprc?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/plain | 09:13 |
| chninkel | Mithrandir: ok so no problem with a relay only smtp | 09:13 |
| Kyral | mda is fetchmail? | 09:14 |
| LaserJock | not sure, they use procmail | 09:16 |
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| Kyral | whee I have it grabbing mail from Fetchmail | 09:29 |
| Kyral | exim that is | 09:29 |
| Kyral | now I need to have them both running as Daemons | 09:29 |
| Kyral | ..which I don't know how to lol | 09:35 |
| LaserJock | don't they have /etc/init.d scripts? | 09:36 |
| Kyral | ..envermind | 09:37 |
| Kyral | now I have to get exim configured fully | 09:45 |
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| Kyral | hmm | 09:51 |
| Kyral | so mail marked read in mutt is moved to mbox? | 09:51 |
| dholbach | Vorbereiten zum Ersetzen von mplayer-skins 2-3 (durch .../mplayer-skins_2-4_all.deb) ... | 09:53 |
| dholbach | Removing obsolete /usr/share/mplayer/Skin/default | 09:53 |
| dholbach | rmdir: /usr/share/mplayer/Skin/default: Not a directory | 09:53 |
| dholbach | dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten von /var/cache/apt/archives/mplayer-skins_2-4_all.deb (--unpack): | 09:53 |
| dholbach | :) | 09:53 |
| === Kyral is still figuring out this Fetchmail + Exim stuff | ||
| Kyral | Fetchmail runs as a daemon as my user....and exim runs from init.d... | 09:55 |
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| Kyral | hmm | 10:11 |
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| crimsun | 'night, daniel | 10:42 |
| dholbach | night daniel | 10:43 |
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| siretart | buxy: we are currently discussing collaborative maintenance on #ubuntu-meeting, perhaps you'd like to join? | 10:55 |
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| buxy | siretart: thanks for the notice I'm joining | 10:56 |
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| crimsun | siretart: mplayer-skins 2-4 (and newer) need to handle the case where /usr/share/mplayer/Skin/default is a symlink | 10:57 |
| crimsun | siretart: as in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7031 | 10:58 |
| siretart | crimsun: gnarf, there must something have gone wrong with my test for directories. Will check that. | 11:00 |
| sistpoty | crimsun: are you working only on mythtv or also on the plugins? | 11:01 |
| crimsun | sistpoty: just mythtv | 11:04 |
| sistpoty | crimsun: ok, I've got a fix for mythplugins here... will obsolete mythgame, mythphone... and other isolated packages | 11:05 |
| sistpoty | crimsun: then I'll upload it later on... ok? | 11:05 |
| crimsun | sistpoty: sure | 11:08 |
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| sistpoty | :) | 11:09 |
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| ajmitch | sigh | 11:11 |
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| ajmitch | looks like I missed most of the meeting | 11:11 |
| ogra_ibook | \sh, are you still working on wine ? | 11:11 |
| === ajmitch might as well head back to bed or go off & do something else then | ||
| \sh | ogra_ibook: I uploaded 0.9.5 including wmf security patch and uploaded security fixes for wine in hoary and breezy so yes | 11:12 |
| Kyral | Yea! I got Exim behaving! | 11:12 |
| ogra_ibook | it doesnt work on ltsp it seems | 11:12 |
| tseng | oh this again @ #u-m | 11:12 |
| ajmitch | tseng: yep | 11:13 |
| \sh | ogra_ibook: hmmm...? it works via ssh -X in a i386 chroot on my amd64 :) | 11:13 |
| \sh | (notepad actually) | 11:14 |
| ogra_ibook | i just have a guy in #edubuntu | 11:14 |
| ogra_ibook | #he only sees a black box | 11:14 |
| ogra_ibook | but with breezy wine it works | 11:14 |
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| \sh | breezy wine is a different version...0.9.4 and 0.9.5 changed a lot | 11:15 |
| \sh | with 0.9.4 ajmitch had problems with diablo 2 but with 0.9.5 it worked again | 11:16 |
| ajmitch | that was a known problem with direct3d support | 11:16 |
| ajmitch | because they don't do proper regression testing | 11:16 |
| \sh | ogra_ibook: which application? | 11:17 |
| ogra_ibook | \sh, if you want someone to help debugging, ask platos in #edubuntu | 11:18 |
| \sh | ogra_ibook: thx :) | 11:18 |
| siretart | crimsun: whats wrong with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7034 | 11:19 |
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| crimsun | siretart: rmdir fails on symlinks. I'd first test -L DEFAULTDIR | 11:21 |
| siretart | argl. and test -d follows symlinks.. argl. right | 11:22 |
| siretart | I need to exit 0 if DEFAULTDIR is already a symlink | 11:22 |
| crimsun | right | 11:22 |
| crimsun | I guess it's -h for bash | 11:22 |
| crimsun | or -L | 11:22 |
| thierry_ | what's the difference between the menu file and the app.desktop file? | 11:28 |
| crimsun | menu -> Debian menu; .desktop = fd.o desktop file | 11:30 |
| thierry_ | k | 11:30 |
| phanatic | is a menu file needed, if there's a .desktop available? | 11:31 |
| tseng | menu as in debian/menu? | 11:32 |
| phanatic | yeah | 11:32 |
| tseng | thats pretty much different | 11:32 |
| tseng | its for the old debian menu system | 11:32 |
| phanatic | does ubuntu need that? | 11:32 |
| tseng | we dont really require you have one | 11:32 |
| phanatic | okay :) | 11:33 |
| tseng | some weird people probably still use it | 11:33 |
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| phanatic | is a man page needed for a gnome app? | 11:36 |
| phanatic | (that's the only lintian message left) | 11:37 |
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| rbelem | g'evening all | 11:50 |
| rbelem | i have a software license question | 11:52 |
| rbelem | There is 3 liceses LGPL, GPL and "do whatever you want" | 11:53 |
| rbelem | in the package, but different files | 11:53 |
| rbelem | which license is closer to "do whatever you want"? | 11:55 |
| rbelem | and how to put 3 licenses in debian/copyright? some thing like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7036? | 11:56 |
| siretart | crimsun: I just uploaded mplayer-skins_2-5 featuring a check for symlinks. works for me, but feel free to upload over it if you find another problem with it | 11:57 |
| siretart | I'll be in bed soon [tm] | 11:57 |
| === rbelem need to rest... | ||
| rbelem | g'night all | 11:59 |
| siretart | rbelem: | 11:59 |
| siretart | rbelem: 'do whatever you want' does not sound dfsg free to me | 12:00 |
| rbelem | siretart: :) | 12:00 |
| siretart | :) | 12:00 |
| rbelem | siretart: may i sugest to upstream author bsd license? | 12:01 |
| thierry_ | does autotools.mk install the .desktop file, or is it only gnome.mk who does it? | 12:02 |
| rbelem | siretart: or is there other that descibe better? | 12:02 |
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