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eth42Seveas, are you sure that names for mime types are stored in gconf? I used "find" in gconf-editor and searched for "jar" and ".*jar.*" and couldn't find it although Nautilus knows jar files.12:00
MacSlowSuperSam, that's some months ago... I guess if you searhch there for "sensors" or similar you'll find it.12:00
Blippedooglus, instead of metacity that is...12:00
SuperSamThankyou MacSlow - I take it from the ScreenCaptures you aren't english? - If not you speak it well :).12:00
Seveaseth42, /usr/lib/mime is the place12:00
pal_anyone here who use Qt/PyQt, who can tell me why i have to use tmake under windows? when configuring sip?12:01
Sanneaggressor, I think since you won't need to compile sources, you can try to continue with point 4. "Configuration" from your url.12:01
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MacSlowSuperSam, That's right I'm german, but english is almost like a second native tongue to me.12:01
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aggressorok12:01
Sanneaggressor, brb, coffee12:01
bimbericat /etc/hotplug/blacklist12:01
SuperSamMacSlow, do you have MSN Messenger?12:02
dooglusBlippe: I'm happy with metacity.12:02
MacSlowSuperSam, yes12:02
bimberioops - meant that for a terminal :)12:02
dooglusBlippe: I'm asking whether it's possible to stop nautilus from running.12:02
Majdaawhat kind of linux partition does ubuntu need?12:02
SuperSamMacSlow - May I add you? You seem a helpful guy and seem to know some interesting stuff :)12:02
bimberiMajdaa: it uses ext3 by default but will work with others - ext2, reiserfs, ...12:03
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Shoe..anyone have the firefox 1.4.99+[...] ubuntu10 or ubuntu9 debs for firefox?12:03
Shoe..anyone have the firefox 1.4.99+[...] ubuntu10 or ubuntu9 debs for firefox?12:03
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hawkingIhave a corrupt package and neither apt-get nor aptitude or dpkg removes it .. is there any other way to remove the package?12:03
nboundcan someone tell me how i can get totem to play mpeg movies12:04
Shoe(sorry, didn't mean to spam)12:04
MacSlowSuperSam, I'm just some dude coding some stuff... but if you can't "resist" go ahead -> macslowac@hotmail.com12:04
eth42Seveas, /usr/lib/mime seems to be the place to associate mime types with default application but not for associating mime types like "application/x-jar" with explicit names like "Java archive"12:04
SuperSam:D12:04
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TTilusShoe: what do you need that for?12:05
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TTilusShoe: i mean the spesific version12:05
ShoeYes.12:06
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nboundcan someone tell me where to get a codec so totem will play mpeg movies?12:07
Majdaai'm really confused, i have only one hard drive partition...when i open partition magic, it shows i have 2 partitions and one of them is unallocated12:07
ShoeThe ubuntu12 one gives me an error message on certain sites: "The page isn't redirecting properly12:07
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ShoeFirefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete."12:07
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Shoeshit.12:07
Shoesorry.12:08
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nboundcan someone tell me where to get a codec so totem will play mpeg movies? please?12:08
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Shoecut and paste, didn't mean to have those enters in there.12:08
eth42nbound: I use totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer and that works perfectly12:08
khermans_ANyone know if there is a Firefox extension to pull your bookmarks from Google Personalized?12:08
RedGreenBlue!mpeg12:08
ubotuRedGreenBlue: Are you on ritalin?12:08
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nboundeth42, errrr?12:08
eth42nbound: just apt-get install totem-xine12:08
nboundokay12:09
ShoeTTilus, you catch that?12:09
Sanneaggressor, back12:09
SeveasShoe, NEVER EVER paste in here12:09
Seveasand most certainly not empty lines12:09
ShoeI know now.12:09
ShoeMy apologies.12:09
nboundthanks, eth4212:09
RedGreenBluea12:09
TTilusShoe: and ubuntu9 did not?12:09
aggressorSanne, did u mean 3.312:09
Shoecorrect.12:10
Sanneaggressor, 3.3 what?12:10
aggressorSanne, coz in 4 i must have .wine in my home12:10
aggressorpoint12:10
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Shoe(dapper)12:10
ArafangionHeya guys, how does ubuntu manage LVM?12:10
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eth42Seveas, /usr/lib/mime seems to be the place for associating MIME types with default applications but not for associating MIME types like "application/x-jar" with explicit names like "Java archive". I wonder where Nautilus (or gnome-vfs) gets these strings from. Can you help?12:10
derkdsdhi12:10
TTilusArafangion: in what spesific way "how"?12:11
derkdsdi need some help12:11
Sanneaggressor, in 4.1 it sais to create .wine dir by running wine for the first time. Try to do that, type wine in a terminal.12:11
Majdaai'm really confused, i have only one hard drive partition...when i open partition magic, it shows i have 2 partitions and one of them is unallocated12:11
Majdaai'm really confused, i have only one hard drive partition...when i open partition magic, it shows i have 2 partitions and one of them is unallocated12:11
TTilusArafangion: what you want to do?12:11
hawkingHow can i manually remove a package?Ican't download anything through apt-get PLEASEHELPME12:11
derkdsdhow can i install nvidia geforce 6600 Gt drivers on my ubuntu linux amd64??? i cant install it12:11
aggressork12:11
ArafangionDoes it put the tools into an initrd, so that / can be in lvm, or does it put / into a 'normal' partition, so you can only have the other partitions in LVM? (Preferred, I don't like initrd)12:11
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aggressorbash: wine: command not found12:11
eth42hawking: use synaptic. it's quite self-explanatory12:11
Shoederkdsd, do "dpkg -r <packagename>12:11
Sanneaggressor, then you don't have it installed. Please start synaptic.12:12
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Seveaseth42, /usr/share/mime-info and ~/.gnome/mime-info seem to be the place12:12
derkdsdumm shoe.. i go to try it12:12
TTilushawking: have you tried to force purge, like --force ?12:12
derkdsdtnx...12:12
Shoeaol mail.12:12
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hawkingTTilus :yes12:12
drunkpikachudoes ubuntu have a deafult root password, or do I somehow miss when they ask for it?12:12
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aggressorSanne, done12:12
TTilushawking: does not help?12:12
sklavdrunkpikachu, use sudo and ur username password12:13
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Sannefind wine in the package list (you can highlight one package to give the frame focus, then type wine and it should be found)12:13
sklavthere is no password for root per say12:13
sklavthe account is locked12:13
hawkingTTilus :no12:13
TTilusShoe: dont really know where you could get older versions12:13
ArafangionTTilus: Do you know how it manages LVM?12:13
gimmulf_Anyone with openbox experience?12:13
lsuactiafner./m ubotu tell drunkpikachu about sudo12:13
robotgeekgimmulf_: yes12:13
Shoedrunkpikachu, if you want to set a root password, do sudo passwd.12:13
ArafangionTTilus: Via initrd, or otherwise?12:13
TTilusArafangion: "manage" and "LVM", does not compute12:13
drunkpikachuthanks guys. cool bot too12:14
Shoeohkee, then should I bugreport, and wait for new one?12:14
TTilusArafangion: LVM manages itself, nobody else needs to manage it12:14
ArafangionTTilus: Does ubuntu rely on an initrd when LVM is used, or does it rely on / NOT being an LVM partition?12:14
Sanneaggressor,  find wine in the package list (you can highlight one package to give the frame focus, then type wine and it should be found)12:14
ArafangionTTilus: The LVM tools to setup the LVM system have to be avaiable.12:14
ShoeTTilus, thanks.12:14
dooglushow can I stop nautilus running when I run GNOME without removing the nautilus package?12:14
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TTilusArafangion: afaik initrd, but im not sure12:15
aggressorSanne, yes12:15
derkdsd"dpkg -r <packagename>" he say me is for uninstall.... but i need to install to have graphic acelerator12:15
aggressorSanne, Done12:15
derkdsdin my nvidia 6600GT12:15
TTilusShoe: i would at least check if the bug is already filed12:15
Sanneaggressor, is it marked as installed?12:15
ArafangionTTilus: Than / can live inside of LVM, I guess. Thanks.12:15
gimmulf_robotgeek:  it didnt create any .openbox or .config/openbox with configs when i installed it, it only created the global /etc/xdg/openbox/  with rc.xml and menu.xml in it. So i created a "openbox" dir like .config/openbox/ and copied the 2 config files there but i still cant get it to work and my xsession-errors shows me: http://pastebin.com/501666 . Cant understand what's wrong i also ran obconf12:16
derkdsdthe file is  "NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8178-pkg2.run" and i cant install it12:16
aggressorthere is many files12:16
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aggressorand not installed12:16
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TTilusArafangion: "not sure", you have been warned  :)12:16
nboundeth42, i get video now, but no sound12:16
nboundderkdsd, just use the ones u get through synaptic12:16
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Sanneaggressor, there should be only one package named wine.12:16
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tristanmikequick question; how do I change either the resolution, or the refresh rate on the "logon screen" for Kubuntu and/or Ubuntu12:16
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hawkingdoes noone know how to manually remove a corrupt package??12:17
eth42nbound: is it specific to this file? do you get sound with, say, ogg vorbis files?12:17
derkdsdnbound where is synaptic12:17
derkdsdim amateur _(12:17
nboundsystem->admin->synaptic package manager12:17
ArafangionTTilus: Well, I'll know within 1 second of installatino :)12:17
eth42derkdsd: System / Administration / Synaptic Package Manager12:17
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aggressorSanne, I found that12:17
nbounddont have any ogg files12:17
derkdsdok ok i opened12:17
aggressorMicrosoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)12:17
eth42nbound: wav?12:17
eth42:-)12:17
derkdsdand know how can i install it12:17
Sanneaggressor, and it is not installed?12:17
derkdsdsearching in synaptic12:18
aggressoryea not12:18
derkdsdthanks again12:18
eth42derkdsd: look at Settings / Repositories in Synaptic12:18
Sanneaggressor, well, then let's do that :). Do you know how?12:18
nboundit'll whinge if i play an mp3 but it always has i use xmms for mp3s12:18
derkdsdok ok , thanks a lot again eth42 i go to try it12:18
aggressorSanne, yea i know mark and apply12:18
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aggressorSanne, 5min12:18
Sanneaggressor, cool, go for it.12:18
lsuactiafnerderkdsd : sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8178-pkg2.run12:18
Sanneok12:18
derkdsdi go to try tnx12:19
lsuactiafnerderkdsd : also you need apt-get install build-essentials12:19
aggressorSanne, i need wine 2 install games right ?12:19
derkdsdumm ok12:19
eth42nbound: sorry, that didn't compile. :-)12:19
eth42what did you say??12:19
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robotgeekgimmulf_: how did you install openbox, from synaptic?12:19
Sanneaggressor, only for windows games, and don't expect that every game actually runs.12:19
gimmulf_ robotgeek  yes12:19
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nboundit will complain if i try to play an mp3, but it always has... ive been using xmms instead for mp3's12:19
aggressorSanne, i wont12:20
nboundbut its fine with mpeg movies... just no sound12:20
robotgeekgimmulf_: type "sudo apt-get remove --purge openbox && sudo apt-get install openbox"12:20
robotgeekbrb12:20
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aggressorSanne, 2 i need something more wine and brains ?12:20
aggressor:D12:20
TTilushawking: what do you get if you try $ sudo dpkg --force purge package ?12:20
derkdsd i try sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8178-pkg2.run but...12:20
derkdsdUnable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the package 'binutils' ins12:20
derkdsdi cant12:20
Sanneaggressor, there are some nice native games for linux, including commercial ones like quake2, quake3 arena, unreal tournament/3/4, doom3 etc12:20
derkdsdand i put apt-get install build-essentials12:20
derkdsdbut nothing12:21
ArafangionI am having trouble configuring LVM.12:21
ArafangionKeep current partitino layout and configure LVM - YES12:21
Sanneaggressor, what do you always mean with "2"? It's very hard to understand what you say sometimes ;)12:21
lsuactiafnerderkdsd : also you need apt-get install build-essentials12:21
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eth42nbound: I also installed a whole lot of libraries. anything that had "mpg" or "mpeg" in the package name and also libmad. I also downloaded the win32 codec packs from mplayer and put them into /usr/lib/win3212:21
ArafangionNow, I can modify VG's and/or LV's, but I can't appear to do either.12:21
gimmulf_hmm robotgeek  are you sure on that command?12:21
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nboundhmmm ill give that a go12:22
derkdsdyes lsuactiafner12:22
aggressorSanne, 2 - take that word like u spell it (do/to i have bad english)12:22
derkdsdi put that12:22
gimmulf_robotgeek:  ok i ran it do i need to restart X?12:22
sklavmaybe a sudo apt-get install build-essentials12:22
hawkingTTilus :ur sure the command is sudo dpkg --force purge package?12:22
ArafangionIt complains that I either have no physical volumes!12:22
tristanmikecan someone please help me configure the logon refresh/resolution rate. Is there a file I need to edit to lower the refresh rate. My logon screen is all distorted because of it.12:22
derkdsdand later i try to install it but doesnt work...12:22
TTilushawking: sorry $ sudo dpkg --purge --force-all package12:22
Setanyone have experience setting up torrentflux on ubuntu?12:22
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sklavtristanmike, edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:22
Sanneaggressor, ah, you mean "do"? But 2 is "two", with a "t". Anyway, I would appreciate if you could just spell it like "do", and "u" like "you".12:22
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Set!torrentflux12:23
ubotuNo idea, Set12:23
tristanmikeahh, right, thanks sklav12:23
sklavnp12:23
aggressorSanne, you are master :D12:23
hawkingTTilus :dpkg: error while cleaning up:12:23
hawking subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 12712:23
Stormx2Hey everyone12:23
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aggressorSanne, but i need something more exsept wine ?12:23
ArafangionSo, how do I install ubuntu with LVM?12:23
jaredhow can I start vino on a different port?12:23
TTilushawking: and you propably have googled that, and with ""'s?12:23
ArafangionThe installation system doesn't seem to let me!12:24
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globeanybody run ubuntu on intel 852 video chipset?12:24
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hawkingTTilus :it's a rare package :/ what if Iremove all files manually? will it get removed from apt-get list?12:24
Sanneaggressor, I think you should be fine with wine as it is, but sometimes people recommend other versions of wine, special versions made for gaming. Those are not free, though. I would first try with wine.12:24
globeI cant get my display >800x60012:24
derkdsdfuck nvidia drivers ;........................(12:24
derkdsdheh12:24
eth42Seveas: /usr/share/mime-info looks good in principle. but there is no entry like "Java archive" that Nautilus displays for application/x-jar. gnome-vfs.keys only lists "Java code archive" 3 times. so where does Nautilus get the string "Java archive" from??12:24
ompaulderekS, language pleae12:24
aggressorSanne, Ok12:24
derkdsdsry12:24
TTilushawking: no, its not how pkg management works12:25
TTilushawking: there is separate package database12:25
Sanneaggressor, but I'm really not a master with gaming under wine, I use wine to run some apps I need for my work, so I might not be able to help much further than initial setup.12:25
hawkingTTilus :so one package broken and whole system down?what a nice system12:25
ArafangionHow the heck do I create a Volume Group?12:25
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nekostarYALL KNOW WHATS FUNNY?12:25
nekostarer12:25
nekostar-caps12:25
TTilushawking: and tinkering with that will quite likely trash your system totally12:25
hawkingTTilus :that is great12:26
aggressorSanne, fk there is nothing about wine in my home folder12:26
nekostarevery time i decide i should try another distro again for my main machine i redo ubuntu and it just gets sweeter and sweeter12:26
derkdsdanyone can install nvidia drivers on his ubuntu ?12:26
nekostaryeah12:26
nekostarderkdsd, sure can12:26
Sanneaggressor, as the howto sais, it will be created the first time you run wine.12:26
eth42derkdsd: yes. just did that today12:26
jacoplanehya, i got a wirless pcmci card (smc ez-connect g) but it doesn't show up as pcmci card in system settings.  Anybody got a clue on how to avtivate and use this card?12:26
nekostaryou need help?12:26
derkdsdhehe12:26
aggressoroo12:26
aggressorsri12:26
hawkingTTilus :so there is no way out right?12:26
Sanneaggressor :)12:26
derkdsdbecause all time give me error message12:26
aggressorSanne, done12:27
nekostarwhat nvidia card do you have?12:27
nekostarand exactly what error message12:27
eth42derkdsd: which error?12:27
nekostar:)12:27
derkdsdgeforce 6600GT12:27
nekostarah12:27
derkdsdUnable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the package 'binutils' ins12:27
nekostaryou need the new drivers12:27
derkdsdetc12:27
nekostar7667 i think it is12:27
derkdsdwhen i go to install12:27
Sanneaggressor, so, do you have a ~/.wine now?12:27
aggressordone12:27
flodineanyone run a intel 603 chip with ubuntu12:27
foresight!ati12:27
ubotumethinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1012:27
aggressorSanne, yes12:27
nekostarfirst do this in a terminal:12:27
topyli!anyone12:27
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>12:27
nekostarsudo apt-get build-dep nvidia-glx12:27
eth42derkdsd: can't you use the package from multiverse (like nvidia-glx or whatever)12:28
nekostarthat will get all the stuff you must have to compile it12:28
Sanneaggressor, look into ~/.wine and tell me what's there.12:28
nekostaryes make sure that everything is enabled12:28
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TTilushawking: yes there is12:28
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nekostareth42,12:28
hawkingTTilus :what is it for God's sake?12:28
nekostarthats not the 7667 or whatever the latest is though12:28
nekostarlet me get u a link12:28
derkdsdumm12:28
derkdsdi go to try12:28
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TTilushawking: i havent faced this kind of situation ever before12:28
TTilushawking: let me think a bit12:28
hawkingTTilus :ok ... :/12:29
derkdsdlol too many files12:29
aggressorSanne,  dosdevices, drive_c, system,  user , userdef12:29
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derkdsdo download it know..12:29
derkdsdwait please12:29
Chris_Tuckerhow does one search for a filename including something like *MX* ?12:29
gimmulfrobotgeek:  hmm sorry my computer crashed, wierd thing i cant restart X or logout to GDM my screens just becomes black so i need to turn off the computer by pressing the button and restart12:29
nekostareth42, derkdsd http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7507412:30
nekostarcheck that out12:30
Sanneaggressor, very good, then you should be set. The folder "drive_c" is your fake windows drive that wine uses to install software. You might browser through this and you will see familiar directory names.12:30
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nekostarbut derkdsd12:30
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nekostarmake sure you enable universe and multiverse in your /etc/apt/sources.list12:30
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Sanneaggressor, familiar, if you know windows, that is ;)12:30
nekostarand do a sudo apt-get update12:30
gimmulfrobotgeek: i ran this command though: sudo apt-get remove --purge openbox and now i dont have openbox installed anymore12:30
TTilushawking: what was the package?12:30
Chris_Tuckerhow does one search for a filename including something like *MX* on a drive?12:30
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derkdsdok nekostar12:31
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hawkingTTilus :it is a package Iinstalled with a deb file ...12:31
TTilushawking: were there many of them?12:31
derkdsdi go to watch12:31
hawkingTTilus :not in repos12:31
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hawkingTTilus :no one package12:31
robotgeekgimmulf: true, now install it with 'sudo aptitude install openbox'12:31
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eth42nekostar, derkdsd, proprietary drivers suck anyway12:31
eth42is there no way to get tv output using the free nv driver?12:31
TTilushawking: i did not ask if it was from repository or not  :)12:31
aggressorSanne, ok whats next i must 2 open driver c ?12:31
biellahi, I upgraded to the latest ubuntu release, and now when I plug in my camera it doesn't pop up. I see the usb.agent does libgphoto2: loaded successfully, but nothing else?12:31
globehow do I set gnome to my default after installing kde?12:31
TTilushawking: what was the package?12:31
derkdsdi think...12:31
nekostareth42,12:31
TTilushawking: (and is)12:31
nekostarnvidia-glx and nvidia-settings work great12:31
Set!mysql12:31
uboturumour has it, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP12:31
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nekostari find they work better than nv drivers12:32
eth42nekostar: but they are closed sorce12:32
derkdsdbut my big problem is the sound, because i cant use amarok very whel12:32
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hawkingTTilus :well it's a turkish-eng dict file Ican give you the link but it's turkish :(lale.sourceforge.net12:32
nekostareth42, sure they are12:32
Sanneaggressor, let's first test if wine works. Wine has set up some default applications that you can start with a single command. Try typing "notepad" in a terminal.12:32
j2daoshwhats up12:32
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gimmulfrobotgeek:  done12:32
j2daoshhaving probs with my sound card again12:32
nekostardepends on how nazi u are on open/closed source stuff i suppose12:32
j2daoshwhat file do i need to mod again?12:32
nekostarbut you dont have to pay for the driver or anything12:32
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eth42nekostar: well not ber-nazi since i installed it today :-)12:32
_joe_i know this is ubuntu and not kubuntu, but does anyone know how to start the wizrad that asks you how to configure the appearance of K12:32
nekostarjust owning the card is good12:32
_joe_DE and everything12:32
nekostarlmfao eth4212:33
biellaI see in the device manager my camera, but how do I access it?12:33
_joe_, like whether it looks like windows/unix/mac12:33
eth42nekostar: s/ber/uber/12:33
nekostarhehe12:33
derkdsdfor the sound, i cant use alsa or oss, only esd and doesnt work, i have nforce 312:33
aggressorSanne, Working12:33
robotgeekgimmulf: no, try logging in from the gdm menu12:33
Sanneaggressor, for fun, you can also try winemine ;)12:33
nekostarderkdsd, do you have a sound card?12:33
nekostaror is it just onboard12:33
derkdsdyes12:33
derkdsdin the motherboard12:33
aggressorSanne, Mine game :D12:33
derkdsdnforce3 chipset12:33
nekostarone of the problems i had was that i had the onboard and the soundcard in at the same time12:33
nekostaroic ic12:34
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sriaggressor12:34
nekostaris that the ac97 codec?12:34
aggressorsri, yes12:34
TTilushawking: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-turkish/2005/04/msg00654.html12:34
TTilushawking: that any help12:34
derkdsdi think nekostar12:34
sriaggressor: hey, you pinged me12:34
derkdsdyes12:34
nekostarthere was stuff in the forums about that too12:34
derkdsdi supose12:34
hawkingTTilus : lemme see12:34
nboundeth42, no go :(12:34
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TTilushawking: (cant tell myself, my turkish is "a bit" rusty)12:34
gimmulfrobotgeek:  you have any idea howto do this without screen going black ctrl+alt+backspace it also freezes on the black screen then i have to reboot but when i've rebooted internet doesnt work so then i need to reboot one more time and then internet works :)12:34
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aggressorsri, my mouse is fked up, that moves himself12:34
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eth42nbound: what does it say?12:35
Sanneaggressor, neat, huh? So, I'm looking for a small app I can show you how to install, to let you get a feel for it. Hold on.12:35
puffEvening... I just installed mysql via apt. What's the default password?12:35
hawkingTtilus :Iknow12:35
robotgeekgimmulf: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart12:35
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eth42nbound: any error message about missing codecs?12:35
aggressorSanne, Thx d0d12:35
calamarianyone know if vfat support will remain in Ubuntu?12:35
Set!apache12:35
ubotuit has been said that apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom12:35
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starlooking for a good videio player any suggestions I am new at this12:35
lsuactiafnercalamari : its linux kernel supported12:36
nboundno... but there wasnt before for the movies neither12:36
lyIs there a way to test if 3d acceleration is actually working? I get ~600 fps in glxgears and cedega system tests says 3d acceleration failed but i don't know if its just because of my slow gfxcard (geforce 2)12:36
lsuactiafnercalamari : not ubuntu specific12:36
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lsuactiafnercalamari : and it will remain for years12:36
Sanneaggressor, in the meantime, try to browse your drive_c with a file manager, we will need that soon.12:36
pinkisntwellhas anyone used the live cd to resize ntfs successfully?12:36
_joe_puff: no default password, just type mysql12:36
nanaemany partition app that comes with ubuntu?12:36
lsuactiafnernanaem : gparted12:36
aggressorSanne, Like just looking around ?12:36
calamarilsuactiafner: hopefully.. but Ubuntu seems to strip things that are patented, like mp312:36
foresightlowman62, there ?12:36
eth42nbound: what happens if you open the file12:36
nboundit plays with no sound12:37
Sanneaggressor, yeah, so you know where's what when we install stuff.12:37
nboundjust video12:37
nanaemthank you12:37
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lsuactiafnercalamari : ubuntu strips packages, it doesnt modify the linux kernel source12:37
aggressorSanne, k12:37
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calamarilsuactiafner: okay cool12:37
TTilushawking: that seems to be one way to go http://www.mailarchives.org/list/debian-user/msg/2005/1403312:37
TTilushawking: find the broken part and fix it12:37
calamariI guess if it did, I could jsut recompile the kernel anyhow12:37
insomndhi12:37
eth42nbound: what are you playing? movie with some video codec and mp3 audio? or just mp3 file?12:37
TTilushawking: :D12:37
cvt|kdewhat happens if i dl a windows virus using wine?12:37
cafuegolsuactiafner: Well, actually...12:37
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lsuactiafnercalamari : ubuntu slackware mandrake all use the same linux kernel internals, ubuntu and other distributions only compile and add a bunch of packages thats runs on the operating system (linux)12:38
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heraclydehello tt le monde12:38
hawkingTTilus :he said he installed menus package and it worked but my apt-get doesn't work12:38
insomndhow can i scan a range of IP addresses for the same port? I am trying to find a specific host that i know has a specific port open12:38
nboundjust an mpeg movie12:38
nekohayoheraclyde: va dans #ubuntu-fr plutot12:38
nboundeth42, just an mpeg movie12:38
lsuactiafnercafuego : a patch or two12:38
heraclydenekohayo : sorry12:38
insomnddoes nmap have a wildcard or range-specification?12:38
nboundeth42, a music video to be more precise12:38
nekohayohi people, how could I uninstall a manually installed nvidia driver? or should I just overwrite it with nvidia-glx?12:38
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eth42nbound: do you have mpginfo installed (I think it is part of mpgtx)12:39
nekohayoheraclyde: ;-)12:39
nboundummm ill check12:39
lsuactiafnernekohayo : exit X, sh --remove nvidia.package.run i think12:39
Knorrieinsomnd: yes12:39
nboundeth42, installing now12:39
eth42nbound: mpginfo <file> will give you some information about the file12:39
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lsuactiafnernekohayo : lsmod and rmmod nvidia12:39
nekohayosh --remove ?! I didn't know that12:39
lsuactiafnernekohayo : should be enough12:39
TTilushawking: theres another discussion on removing a broken package http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/1999/10/thrd2.html#0080612:39
nekohayohmm12:40
hawkingTTilus :don't you think this sucks?one package is broken and the whole system stops to work12:40
eth42nbound: and what does "Properties" in totem say about your file?12:40
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Knorrieinsomnd: see nmap --help and then the line starting with 'Example'12:40
insomndKnorrie, yes12:40
nekohayolsuactiafner: wouldn't apt-getting nvidia-glx do all that ?12:40
lsuactiafnernekohayo : sh nvidia.package.run --remove i meant12:40
insomndKnorrie, i am reading the man page. I guess i can use * and a - b for ranges12:40
Sanneaggressor, I'm trying to install a program to see if it works. If it does, I'll show you.12:40
insomndKnorrie, thanks12:40
TTilushawking: i think thats exactly what should happen12:41
lsuactiafnernekohayo : i dont use the apt-get for nvidia or kernels so i dont know12:41
Knorrieinsomnd: true, that'll work12:41
calamaricvt|kde: http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/25/1430222&from=rss12:41
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lsuactiafnernekohayo : prefer to comepile my own things12:41
aggressorSanne, ok12:41
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puff_joe_: I tried that, this is mysql 4.1, btw.  It gets me in but  when I try "create database xyzzy" it says "Access denied"12:41
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lyIs there a way to test if 3d acceleration is actually working? I get ~600 fps in glxgears and cedega system tests says 3d acceleration failed but i don't know if its just because of my slow gfxcard (geforce 2)12:41
TTilushawking: if pkg manager doesnt know whats happening, it should not touch anything until somebody has fixed situation and pkg mgmt is on rails again12:41
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nekohayolsuactiafner: I just did --help, and it seems it is --uninstall12:41
nboundeth42, properties says for audio bitrate - N/A    Codec - MPEG layer 2/312:42
nekohayolsuactiafner: thanks for the insight :)12:42
hawkingTTilus :yes true it just should show that something is broken.. it stops working too12:42
TTilushawking: this is exactly why its pretty nice to stay on distros official packages12:42
eth42nbound: mhhh.... and mpginfo?12:42
robotgeek /nick robotgeek_away12:42
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eliaszhey all, im having a problem, just installed ubuntu for the first time, and apt wont work, i dunnno why, but when i was trying toinstall apt http durring install, it gave error, now when i try to do apt-get update i just get errors...what should i have in /etc/apt/sources?12:42
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robotgeek_awaysorry12:42
cvt|kdecalamari, thx12:42
lsuactiafnernekohayo : btw i prefer the mozilla firefox binary, my own .config kernels and offical nvidia driver12:42
lsuactiafnernekohayo : because of past pains12:43
nekohayowhat past pains?12:43
eth42nbound: you could also try playback with vlc and mplayer12:43
TTilushawking: my point was that it (pkg mgmt) really _should_ stop working right the very moment when it becomes aware that theres somenthing off-the-rails12:43
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gthbGood evening12:43
BelagioHey folks,  I have a small problem. I have 'nivida.ko' in both /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko12:43
Belagio and /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/nvidia.ko12:43
Belagio, but modprobe always looks in the volatile directory for it, and that directory houses an incorrect version of the module. How do I tell it to pay attention to the non-volatile location?12:43
biellahow can I browse my camera? I can see it with gphoto2, but I dont want commandline12:43
lyAnyone know?12:43
hawkingTtilus : yes but together with it it should give you an option to remove it12:43
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Sanneaggressor, ok, we will install 7-zip, an archive manager for windows. Open a terminal and cd to somewhere in your drive_c where you want to download an install file to.12:44
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sriaggressor: okay12:44
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AndyRhas anyone here compiled module ov518?12:44
lsuactiafnerBelagio : exit x, lsmod ; rmmod nvidia insmod /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko and mv /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/nvidia.ko /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/nvidia.ko_BACKUP12:44
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gimmulf_robotgeek_away: didnt restart :<12:44
eliaszhey all, im having a problem, just installed ubuntu for the first time, and apt wont work, i dunnno why, but when i was trying toinstall apt http durring install, it gave error, now when i try to do apt-get update i just get errors...what should i have in /etc/apt/sources?12:44
aggressorwhat means cd (comapct disk)??12:45
Steve^I just burnt and ran a copy of Ubuntu Live. Ran the partitioning thing (gparts I think) and resized my linux partition.  It said to reboot, I did. Nothing has changed. Ideas?12:45
eliaszaggressor, yes12:45
nboundeth42, heres the mpginfo output12:45
aggressorsanne,  what means cd (comapct disk)??12:45
nbound  Mpeg 1 System File [Video/Audio] 12:45
nbound  Muxrate : 1.41 Mbps12:45
nbound  Estimated Duration: 03:40.14s12:45
nbound  Size [352 x 240]      29.97 fps    1.15 Mbps12:45
nbound  Audio : Mpeg 1 layer 212:45
nbound  224 kbps  44100 Hz12:45
nbound  Stereo,  No emphasis12:45
TTilushawking: it should not if it cant be sure nothing else breaks with it too12:45
Stormx2aggressor: Yeah, and "cd" is also a linux command meaning "change directory"12:45
ArafangionDoes ubuntu install lilo whenever grub cannot be used?12:45
Sanneaggressor, sorry, change directory. Something like: cd ~/.wine/drive_c12:45
lsuactiafnernbound : stfu12:45
ArafangionBy default?12:45
gimmulf_I cant restart my GDM screen just go black and then i have to reboot by pressing the powerbutton :( any ideas?  its the /etc/init.d/gdm-restart im talking about12:45
lsuactiafnerArafangion : no12:45
eth42nbound: erm, don't paste here use pastebin12:45
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Belagiolsu, do I need to run depmod at all?12:46
hawkingTTilus :ok fine ... just rm -rf /when something like that happens .. really makes sense12:46
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lsuactiafnernbound : dont paste shit12:46
nboundpastebin?12:46
lsuactiafnerBelagio : doubt it12:46
aggressorSanne,  this is difficult for me 2 i need 2 insert something or what :S12:46
Arafangionlsuactiafner: Actually... The next screen that just came up suggests it's installing lilo12:46
lsuactiafnerpastebin12:46
ly..12:46
Belagiolsu: simple fix, thanks for the information.12:46
Stormx2hawking: What are you trying to pull?12:46
Set!webmin12:46
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sklavUse http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting12:46
aggressorSanne, do**12:46
nboundeth42, pastebin?12:46
Sanneaggressor, do you have a terminal window open? Line gnome-terminal?12:46
TTilushawking: i think you should go rant tha package maintainer  :)12:46
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Arafangionlsuactiafner: So I guess it does.12:47
eth42nbound: see what sklav wrote. have you installed ffmpeg and libmad?12:47
aggressorSanne, yes sure12:47
amshake__good evening folks!12:47
hawkingStormx2 :Ihave a broken package and Ican't remove it12:47
TTilushawking: before (and after) doing that you could try to fix it12:47
hawkingStormx2:apt-get stopped working12:47
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Stormx2hawking: Ah ha. What happens when you try to remove it?12:47
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lsuactiafnerArafangion : cool, grub and lilo has never worked for me on an ubuntu install12:47
avinoamI'm running breezy, i tried emptying trash in gnome, the trash emptied, but i didn't get my hard disk space back :(12:47
Sanneaggressor, then type:  cd ~/.wine/drive_c12:47
lsuactiafnerArafangion : cant find the bug but been very annoyed by it12:47
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TTilushawking: find the script dpkg complains about and look inside12:47
aggressorSanne, done12:47
nboundeth42, i had ffmpeg, installing libmad now12:47
Sanneaggressor, to see what's in there, type ls12:48
lsuactiafnernbound : install mplayer12:48
eth42nbound: and lame12:48
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avinoamhow does one forcefully empty trash in breezy?12:48
Arafangionlsuactiafner: Looks like I have to configure lilo manually (Doesn't detect my winxp installation, for dual-booting), but it does definetly boot the new installation.12:48
hawkingStormx2 : Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should12:48
hawking reinstall it before attempting a removal.12:48
aggressorSanne, aggressor@ubuntu:~/.wine/drive_c$12:48
aggressor ls ?12:48
amshake__avinoam, look in the lost and found directory12:48
nboundeth42, problem solved with libmad12:48
eth42nbound: told you so before. :-)12:48
nboundeth42, thanks for helping me12:48
Stormx2hawking: What is the package?12:48
eth42nbound: np12:48
aggressorSanne, done12:48
avinoamamshake__, where do i find that?12:48
Sanneaggressor, yes, just ls12:48
lsuactiafnernbound : and btw the ubuntu mplayer package sucks so much i hate it, also the CVS is very very good, i suggest you compie it12:48
amshake__avinoam, do a locate for lost+found12:48
lsuactiafnernbound : the package is 7 months old12:48
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eliaszwhat should i have in /etc/apt/sources? can someone pastebin 1 that works for me?12:48
Sanneaggressor, you see the files and directories that are in the one you are now.12:48
hawkingStormx2 :it's a turkish-eng dictionary Iinstalled it as deb it's not in repos12:49
Stormx2!repos12:49
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource12:49
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Stormx2eliasz, look up12:49
nboundlsuactiafner, i will do that then too12:49
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Stormx2hawking: Ah12:49
gimmulf_!gdm12:49
ubotugimmulf_: Did you get hit by a windmill?12:49
Stormx2hawking: Well, the package may not have downloaded correctly12:49
avinoamamshake__, i have a lost+found program....12:49
Stormx2hawking: Or it may be corrupt on the server12:50
gimmulf_I cant restart my GDM screen just go black and then i have to reboot by pressing the powerbutton :( any ideas?  its the /etc/init.d/gdm-restart im talking about12:50
aggressorSanne, it tells Program Files  windows12:50
Stormx2hawking: Or maybe it was built for a much earlier version12:50
nboundheh, that even fixed mp3's in totem12:50
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eliaszStormx2, where?12:50
aggressorsanne, in terminal12:50
globehow do I make Gnome my default after installing KDE?12:50
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hawkingStormx2 :yes but how can i remove it?12:50
Stormx2eliasz: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/604712:50
Sanneaggressor, cool, now we make a folder to download some stuff into. Type: mkdir install12:50
eliaszthnx12:50
avinoamanyone know where lost+found is in breezy?12:50
lsuactiafnerglobe : read everything on the login screen12:50
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lsuactiafneravinoam : on ALL linuxes inside /12:51
aggressorSanne, done12:51
Stormx2hawking: Ah, remove it. Not sure. does apt-get remove -f whatever not work?12:51
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avinoamlsuactiafner, my trash didn't empty12:51
globelsuactiafner : not just the default after I login, but I want gnome to be able to process the login12:51
Sanneaggressor, now we go into that folder. Type: cd install12:51
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lsuactiafnerlost+found is where files are put when you have disk/file curruptions12:51
lsuactiafnerits not trash12:51
lsuactiafnerits not a recycle bin12:51
aggressorSanne, yea done12:51
hawkingStormx2 :nope12:51
avinoamlsuactiafner, i know12:51
avinoamlsuactiafner, i tried emptying trash, trash emptied, but i didn't get my hard disk space back12:52
Sanneaggressor, do you have a middle mouse button?12:52
Stormx2hawking: Thats a bummber.12:52
Stormx2hawking: *bummer12:52
hawkingStormx2 :E: The package lale needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.12:52
Stormx2hawking: What about if you try and use synaptic?12:52
cafuegoavinoam: lost+found is a directory in the root of all mounted partitions.12:52
aggressorSanne, u mean roll ?12:52
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hawkingStormx2 :synaptic? Idon't have it12:52
lsuactiafneravinoam : i dont use gnome or a gui really, cant help you12:52
Sanneaggressor, yes, you can also click that wheel, can you?12:52
avinoamlsuactiafner, i don't wanna use gui12:52
Stormx2hawking: Sure? Because it comes packaged with ubuntu12:52
aggressorSanne, yes12:52
avinoamlsuactiafner, i'm trying to find it in terminal12:52
hawkingStormx2 :not with kubuntu12:53
Stormx2hawking: Ah12:53
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lsuactiafneravinoam : <lsuactiafner> lost+found is where files are put when you have disk/file curruptions12:53
Sanneaggressor, ok, leave the terminal open. Go with a web browser to: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/697612:53
hawkingStormx2 :and adept can't remove it12:53
traeI know it's slightly off-topic, but does anyone here know about sharing wireless connections over distances of say 1/2 a mile or so?12:53
lsuactiafneravinoam : inside your /home/user there should be something12:53
lsuactiafneravinoam : i use mc to navigate files12:53
khermans_ANyone know how to install ImageMagick from CVS?12:53
aggressorsanne, done12:53
Stormx2hawking: well, you could either mess around with aptitude, or maybe install synaptic, not sure. Synaptic is pretty handy with broken packages12:53
avinoamlsuactiafner, i don't see anything :(12:54
dickmcI can print with every program but Gimp  Ubuntu Breezy w/ hp psc 211012:54
dickmcany Ideas???12:54
Sanneaggressor, you should see a line beginning with "001 wget http://mesh.dl..."12:54
Stormx2dickmc: Change the printer setup in gimp12:54
lsuactiafnerkhermans : i would do apt-get build-dep ImageMagick and then consult the ImageMagick website DOCs or Download.html12:54
hawkingStormx2 :Ican't use apt-get to get any stuff.. so my only way is to compile it from source :/12:54
lsuactiafneravinoam : then it aint there12:54
avinoamlsuactiafner, it's a folder called lost+found? not hidden?12:54
Stormx2ack12:54
aggressorSanne, yes now sudo apt-get install wget http://mesh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/sevenzip/7z432.exe ?12:54
lsuactiafneravinoam : type locate -i file     where file is what you are looking for12:54
Stormx2hawking: What does apt-get return?12:54
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Sanneaggressor, no12:55
hawkingStormx2 :E: The package lale needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.12:55
lsuactiafneravinoam : if you mention lost+found again i'm going to ignore you12:55
aggressorSanne, just wget http://mesh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/sevenzip/7z432.exe12:55
lsuactiafneravinoam : lost+found has nothing to do with your problem now drop it12:55
avinoamlsuactiafner, ok jeez12:55
eth42Seveas: the file I needed was /usr/share/mime/packages/freedesktop.org.xml. This one includes the association between "application/x-jar" and "Java archive". I'm a bit confused though why we need gnome-mime-data and shared-mime-info...12:55
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avinoamlsuactiafner, whatever was in my trash- i attempted emptying trash12:55
Stormx2hawking: Tried using the force option?12:55
avinoamlsuactiafner, several big files12:55
avinoamlsuactiafner, is there a way to empty trash from command line?12:56
lsuactiafnerive told you twice and someone else has also, lost+found is file system errors that have been corrected and currupted12:56
dickmcthe 2110 is not listed in the list   I don't know how to get Gimp to recognize printer12:56
hawkingStormx2 :several times12:56
Sanneaggressor, wget is a download program. You need to get this command into the terminal that you have open. You can select from "wget" up tp "7z432.exe" with your mouse, and then click with the middle button inside the terminal to paste.12:56
avinoamlsuactiafner, yes i understand that12:56
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Stormx2avinoam: You could try something like "ls -rf .Trash*", and if it works correctly change "ls" to "rm"12:56
Stormx2I gotta go sleep now12:57
alekandrAnyone know how to check what users are currently logged in?12:57
Stormx2hawking: Ask on ubuntuforums.org12:57
lsuactiafneravinoam : i know nothing of trash and i think the recovered disk space was calculated before you emptied it, but i dont know and am going to bed now. never use a gui from now.12:57
aggressorSanne, cant understand12:57
TTilushawking: have you looked into fixing the pkg?12:57
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avinoamanyone else know what to do if emptying trash doesn't recover hard disk space in gnome?12:57
sz0r3nhey anyone know how to fix the debootstrap error on the instal?12:57
hawkingTtilus :how?12:57
avinoamlsuactiafner, i've since refreshed12:57
aggressorSanne, do i need just type wget12:57
TTilushawking: if it really contains only couple of data files it should not be to bad12:58
aggressorSanne, or wget http://mesh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/sevenzip/7z432.exe12:58
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Stormx2avinoam: Sure GNOME wasn't reporting your disk space minus the trash?12:58
Sanneaggressor, yes, the whole line12:58
TTilushawking: look into that err mesg, it gave the name of script which was failing12:58
aggressorsanne, j12:58
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avinoamStormx2, i cntrl+backspaced, same thing12:58
aggressorsanne, k*12:58
Sanneaggressor, it will download the instller.12:58
avinoamStormx2, i should have an extra 800MB12:58
TTilushawking: find the script and look inside12:58
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aggressorSanne, installing12:58
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hawkingTTilus :lemme see12:59
sz0r3nhey anyone know how to fix the debootstrap error on the instal?12:59
aggressorSanne, done12:59
Sanneaggressor, no, downloading. Installing come next ;)12:59
TTilushawking: what it does and what looks like it should do instead  :)12:59
aggressorsanne, 01:59:08 (99.33 KB/s) - `7z432.exe' saved [840679/840679] 12:59
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Sanneaggressor, ok, now you should have a file 7z432.exe in your install folder we just created. Check with ls.12:59
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aggressorsanne, yes i have01:00
aggressorSanne, now type that name and enter >01:00
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aggressorsanne, ?01:00
Sanneaggressor, now we need to start the installer to actually install the program. In Windows, you doubleclick. In Linux, you tyoe: wine 7z432.exe01:00
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Sanneaggressor, please be patient, I can't type lightning fast ;)01:01
avinoamanyone?01:01
aggressorsanne, now next ?01:01
aggressorsanne, c:\Program Files\7-Zip?01:01
Sanneaggressor, dies the installer start?01:01
Sanneah01:02
aggressorSanne, yes01:02
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Sanneaggressor, you can install it there if you want.01:02
lsuactiafneravinoam : run sync01:02
avinoamlsuactiafner, as root?01:02
aggressorsanne, done01:02
lsuactiafneryeh01:03
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lsuactiafnerbed now01:03
sz0r3nhey anyone know how to fix the debootstrap error on the instal?01:03
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nboundhmmm how can i install wine there is no wine package in synaptic...01:03
xerxashi, is there any xargs or find master here ?01:03
Sannenow we need to go there in the terminal, so type: cd ../Program\ Files01:03
avinoamlsuactiafner, no good01:03
foresight!mp301:03
ubotusomebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:03
sz0r3nhey anyone know how to fix the debootstrap error on the instal?01:04
TTilushawking: i gotta go to sleep in a minute, what does it look like?01:04
lsuactiafneravinoam : am sure its gone, think you're just miscalculating something01:04
theveranthow do I give myself privaliges to access NTFS mounts? Right now I have them mounted but I cannot view them unless I sudo01:04
hawkingTTilus :I am lost01:04
hawkingtotally01:04
avinoamlsuactiafner, totally not01:04
hawkinganyway thanks01:04
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luisitoCould I let a memo for anyone here in the freenode server?01:04
Sanneaggressor,  now we need to go there in the terminal, so type: cd ../Program\ Files01:04
avinoamlsuactiafner, says my empty space is 14.6mb01:04
nboundhmmm how can i install wine there is no wine package in synaptic... any ideas???01:04
avinoamlsuactiafner, i deleted a folder that was like 800MB01:04
lsuactiafneravinoam : run du -lhs inside your /home01:04
aggressorsanne, /home/aggressor/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/7-Zip/7z.exe01:04
TTilushawking: what was the script, was there complete path on err?01:05
TTilushawking: i think you should propably contact package author01:05
Sannenbound, http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb01:05
lsuactiafneravinoam : then du -lh01:05
TTilushawking: and at least file a bug report to their bts  :)01:05
aggressorsanne, wine: cannot find '/home/aggressor/.wine/drive_c/Program'01:05
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avinoamlsuactiafner, still no good01:06
Sanneaggressor, there's a blank in Program Files. Youneed to "escape" that like this: Program\ Files01:06
Sanneaggressor, backslash before the blank01:06
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aggressork01:06
TTilusaggressor: or 'Program Files'01:06
Set!proc01:06
ubotuSet: Do they come in packets of five?01:06
gthbCan somebody put the file /etc/rc0.d/S35networking on a http server for me? :/01:06
bimberinbound: wine is in the universe repository - do you have it enabled? - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - also theres...01:06
lsuactiafneravinoam : then you miscalcualted01:06
bimberiubotu tell nbound about wine01:06
TTilushawking: bye...01:06
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cityisminehas anyone given goowy mail a shot, is it better than gmail?01:07
avinoamlsuactiafner, dude, not possible01:07
dozahello01:07
lsuactiafneravinoam : du shouldve showed you everything there was and sizes01:07
lsuactiafneravinoam : du -lh | grep M01:07
Sanneaggressor, but cd just to the 7zip directory, don't do anything with any exe yet.01:07
aggressorsanne, do i need do rename folder ?01:07
avinoamlsuactiafner, i'm thinking that maybe it's an mplayer bug01:07
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avinoamlsuactiafner, i was watching a .cue file, perhaps it didn't get released somehow?01:07
Sanneaggressor, no, better not do that. Escape the blank like I said. Do you understand?01:07
SetI am trying to upgrade webmin, but it asks for module "proc"01:07
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nboundbimberi, that repository is already added :(01:08
Mapionetkai have a dilemma with permissions.01:08
aggressorSanne, not realy01:08
avinoamlsuactiafner, that was it01:08
Mapionetkai have a user saying they cant modify a directory their group has access to01:08
Mapionetkaany ideas01:08
avinoamlsuactiafner, i did killall mplayer and got my space back01:08
lsuactiafneravinoam : mplayer doesnt lock files01:08
Sanneaggressor, you need to put a backslash \ before a blank in a directory name01:08
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avinoamlsuactiafner, so guess what?01:09
Sanneaggressor, type: cd /home/aggressor/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files01:09
hyphenatedMapionetka: huh? is the directory group-writeable?01:09
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avinoamlsuactiafner, apparently with .cue files, it does, since it's not a regular media file01:09
lsuactiafnershoudl i really type what?01:09
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nboundbimberi, i already had that repository enabled01:09
aggressorSanne, like this ? cd /home/aggressor/.wine/drive_c/ProgramFiles/7-Zip/7z.exe01:09
projrepositories seem to be down?01:09
avinoamlsuactiafner, that is what did it. i refreshed every step of the way01:09
lsuactiafnernext time do ps auxww | grep -i file also01:09
aggressorsanne, k01:09
nboundi get a whole heap of packages just not one called wine01:10
ArafangionHow do I get my eth1 up again? (I changed dhcp settings)01:10
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avinoamlsuactiafner, btw, there was still an mplayer process01:10
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zuverinkHow easy is it to add a new video card in Ubuntu?01:10
Mapionetkahyphenated, thankyou i overlooked that01:10
aggressorsanne, now ? 7-Zip/7z.exe01:10
avinoamlsuactiafner, several actually01:10
Mapionetkanext question. if a user makes a dir or file in that folder, how can i make it by default owned by the relevant group?01:10
ArafangionMerely restarting networking doesn't work.01:10
Sanneaggressor, patience!01:10
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aggressorSanne, sorri01:11
Sanneaggressor, where are you now? Which directory?01:11
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Psi-JackAlright. I upgraded to kernel 2.6.12-10, but now it can't find my root filesystem. I'm using ext3 for /boot, where grub is installed into as an active bootable partition. And / is xfs.. It works fine with -9, but -10 is giving me crap trying to mount the root filesystem.01:11
aggressorSanne, aggressor@ubuntu:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files$01:11
hyphenatedMapionetka: there's no easy way to achieve that01:11
Sanneaggressor, we need to go into the dir where 7zip was installed. Look for it with: ls01:11
Mapionetka:|01:11
aggressork01:12
Mapionetkathats going to cause some rather large issues01:12
aggressorSanne, 7-Zip01:12
Psi-JackAnyone know what's going on with that?01:12
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Sanneaggressor, ok, type: cd 7-Zip01:12
Mapionetkawould a cron job every 10mins or so to set recursive permissions etc be acceptable?01:12
aggressorsanne, done01:12
Psi-JackMapionetka: Sure. Why not? Depends on how deep it goes.01:12
Sanneaggressor, also check with ls what's there.01:13
ArafangionHow do I reload network devices?01:13
Mapionetkanot very01:13
Mapionetkaand the server doesnt do much else with its time01:13
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aggressorsanne, 7zCon.sfx  7zG.exe    7zip_pad.xml  copying.txt   Formats      License.txt01:13
aggressor7z.exe     7-zip.chm  7z.sfx        descript.ion  History.txt  readme.txt01:13
aggressor7zFM.exe   7-zip.dll  Codecs        file_id.diz   Lang         Uninstall.exe01:13
projsynaptic seems to be having trouble downloading from http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com  --> is this related to the problems happening with the debian packages?01:13
hyphenatedMapionetka: unless your users are impatient, it's fine for small-ish numbers of files01:13
ArafangionHello?01:13
Mapionetkais there a better way to do it?01:13
hyphenatedMapionetka: nope.01:13
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Sanneaggressor, so there are more than one exes. I already checked, the file we need now is 7zFM.exe. So type: wine 7zFM.exe01:14
Mapionetkak01:14
projis anyone else having trouble with this?01:14
ssamMapionetka, a replacement to the umask system01:14
aggressorsanne, programm is running :P01:14
projI can reach the repository it seems through http. but synaptic claims that it can't retrieve the packages01:14
Sanneaggressor, tada!! :)01:14
Mapionetkassam, elaborate?01:14
aggressorsanne, with games is same thing?01:15
ssamMapionetka, i think it would be sensible if new file inherited their ownership/permison from thier parent folder01:15
ArafangionHow the heck do I enable the eth1? I don't want to do it manually.01:15
Sanneaggressor, that's how you do it, basically, but you should check if there's a howto for that game, often you have to do some more config to do.01:15
foresightI cant find the gstreamer0.8-mad file..trying to play MP3's ^^01:15
LY^Is there a way to test if 3d acceleration work 100 %? I get ~600 fps in glxgears with a geforce 2 and cedega says "Failed" when it tests 3d acceleration..01:15
globehow do I shutdown x server from terminal?01:15
Mapionetkatrue ssam01:16
bimberinbound: ah, have you updated recently?01:16
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Mapionetkanext q. im a newbie, how the hell do i use cron :P01:16
bimberiglobe: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop01:16
ArafangionMapionetka: crontab -e01:16
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ssamMapionetka, currently new files just get you as owner and your umask permissions01:16
cityismineHey, is fedora faster than debian?01:16
aggressorSanne, thx m8, but with wine i can install games what are .tar.gz?01:16
Psi-JackMapionetka: man crontab01:16
Sanneaggressor, the points 4. and 5. from the howto you gave me is very useful, you might want to have a look at that.01:16
Mapionetkaso i should be using crontab not cron?01:16
globebimberi: thanks.  thats the one I was looking for.01:16
bimberiglobe: np :)01:17
Psi-JackMapionetka: cron is the daemon, crontab manages the schedules.01:17
aggressorsanne, ok01:17
ArafangionMapionetka: And man 5 crontab01:17
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Mapionetkaok01:17
Mapionetkaty01:17
ssamMapionetka, it might also fix the issue of copying files from a read only disk to your home folder and them being read only still01:17
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Sanneaggressor, no, not tar.gz, that are source packages you would compile. Wine is for installing and running windows binary packages, already compiled for windows.01:17
nboundbimberi, yes ubuntu has01:17
XappeLY^: glxinfo perhaps?01:17
aggressorsanne, ok01:17
ssamMapionetka, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsabilityWishlist#head-e9b03c838047b98d5bac32a4042bfcac6abed81501:17
ArafangionDo I actually have to reboot just to get a network card up and running with dhcp?01:18
bimberinbound: put your sources.list on the pastebin01:18
Mapionetkahehe. and the chances of it happening ssam :P01:18
ssamArafangion, sudo ifup eth001:18
kemikArafangion:  no , you shouldnt have to01:18
globeArafangion no01:18
nboundwhere is the pastebin?01:18
khermans_Can someone tell me why .bashrc would not be called when i log in via SSH, but it works after i type bash01:18
globeArafangion sudo dhclient eth*01:18
LY^Xappe, how do i see if it works?01:18
bimberi!pastebin01:18
ubotuI guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:18
Sanneaggressor, have fun with wine. There's also a #winehq channel here on freenet, if you have specific wine questions.01:18
XappeLY^: what graphics adapter do you have?01:18
Arafangionglobe: I can't just do it via /etc/init.d/networking stop/start ?01:19
LY^Xappe, its a geforce 201:19
ssamMapionetka, it depends how progressive shuttleworth wants ubuntu to be01:19
Mapionetkayeah01:19
Mapionetkai assume cron can do anything root can?01:19
projweird. I had to change the paths to the repositories01:19
globeArafangion I think that starts /stops all networking01:19
Arafangionssam: Is ifup an ubuntu convention?01:19
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_Otaku_hi01:19
Arafangionglobe: In this case, that's exactly what's happening.01:19
_Otaku_i suffer sever problems01:19
ssamArafangion, posibly debian01:20
aggressorSanne, u are very helpful one :D01:20
_Otaku_i am using command line based irc client even :S01:20
globeArafangion oh...I thought you just wanted a NIC to fetch an IP01:20
Arafangion_Otaku_: *severe01:20
Sanneaggressor, you're welcome :)01:20
ssamArafangion, there is also ifdown01:20
_Otaku_I think i messed up Xorg01:20
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_Otaku_exactly @ Arafangion01:20
nboundbimberi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/697701:20
Arafangionssam: On debian, I rarely use dhcp, and doing things via /etc/networking works fine, otherwise I just use route and ifconfig manually.01:20
kemikMapionetka:  if it's added to root's crontab i guess01:20
XappeLY^: hmm, I guess the direct rendering: Yes is what you are looking for01:20
ssamArafangion, and sudo dhclient eth0 if you just want to do a dhcp request01:21
Mapionetkahow do i make sure its added to roots crontab?01:21
Arafangionssam: What I want to do is bring up the device exactly as if the system was rebooted, to confirm configuration.01:21
Setin ubuntu, where is apache defaul directory?01:21
nboundbimberi, i just enabled everything repository that was there01:21
nboundlol01:21
_Otaku_NDS? :S01:21
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_Otaku_oops wrong window01:21
ssamArafangion, ifup uses /etc/networking (i think its what the gnome network tools call internally)01:21
gpledwhat program do you like to burn iso cds with?01:21
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nboundbimberi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/697701:22
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LY^Xappe, it says yes in there. But dosen't ~600fps with a geforce 2 and a amd64 3500+ sound a bit low?01:22
Arafangionssam: Debian uses /etc/network/interfaces01:22
globehow do I turn off the gdm @ login?01:22
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ssamArafangion, yes thats what ifup does01:22
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ssamArafangion, oops i meant ifup uses  /etc/network/interfaces01:23
_Otaku_can someone please help me somehow? After trying to install ATI graphics driver GDM doesn't start anymore01:23
Arafangionssam: It appears that ubuntu does the same, however, I want to check that the init.d script does everything properly, one thing I did was change dhcp configurations in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf01:23
bimberinbound: yep, looks ok.  Try a "sudo aptitude update"01:23
_Otaku_X is complaining about malicious config01:23
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Arafangion_Otaku_: What is the error?01:24
nboundbimberi, done that01:24
ssamArafangion, if you want to check the init.d script, then sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart01:24
_Otaku_Arafangion: good question, how do i find out?01:24
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Arafangion_Otaku_: Well, let's start with why you think that "X is complaining about malicious config"?01:25
XappeLY^: what does it say under "OpenGL vendor string" and so on? is it nvidia or vesa?01:25
nboundbimberi, still no wine package01:25
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LY^Xappe, nvidia01:25
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XappeLY^: then I would guess that you have your drivers right, but I might be wrong...01:26
_Otaku_Arafangion: because my desktop doesn't start anymore01:26
bimberinbound: um, i should have asked this aaaaages ago :/ - are you running i386?01:26
nboundno01:26
Arafangionssam: It only says "Reconfiguring network interfaces", and the only interface I have as a consequence is lo01:26
_Otaku_i got a blue screen telling me something is wrong with configuration01:26
nboundx86_6401:26
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LY^Xappe, you don't think 600 fps sound low?01:26
bimberi*smacks01:26
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Arafangionssam: And I have no errors in /var/log/ that I can find.01:26
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globe_Otaku_: dpkg-reconfigure org.conf I think01:26
XappeLY^: what's the flag for printing out fps with glxgears?01:27
nboundbimberi, i know other people whove had wine running on x64 though?01:27
_Otaku_hm, i tried that but that won't make it work01:27
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_Otaku_at least not with the 3D drivers01:27
LY^Xappe, -printfps01:27
bimberinbound: yes, but it requires special tweaking - no apt-get goodness to my knowledge01:27
Setwhere is the default www folder?01:27
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sexy_girlhttp://neoh59.free.fr/sphpblog/images/mypic.exe    <--take look my sexy pic and dont forget vote for it01:27
XappeLY^: ok, i'll check what I get with my radeon 9600 pro01:27
nboundbimberi, any idea how?01:27
Nameeatersexy_girl: die01:28
Mr_Milenkorofl01:28
bimberinbound: try searching for 'wine amd64' on the ubuntuforums01:28
nboundthanx01:28
_Otaku_an exe in a ubuntu channel?01:28
Nameeatersexy_girl: tho this is realyl the wrong channel since most people here probably can't run .exe's01:28
ardchoilleSet: it's usually at /var/www01:28
LinuxMonksexy girl ur an idiot01:28
theveranthow can I allow access to NTFS drives?  I can't seem to get regular read only access working... sudo can see them fine though01:28
_Otaku_i would have to get wine running first01:28
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Mr_MilenkoIts a bot01:28
Mr_Milenkoidiot01:28
Mr_Milenkolol01:28
bimberinbound: sorry, i should have asked that much earlier :)01:28
XappeLY^: around 2800 for me01:28
theverantI also formatted a Ext3 and I can't access it but with sudo01:28
theverant:\01:28
Mr_Milenkoand thanks for the file.. gonna submit it to Shadowserver.. see what we got here01:28
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Mr_Milenko:)01:28
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ssamArafangion, does ifup bring the interface up?01:28
Koruptpft.... sexcopter01:28
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bimberiquit just in time to stuff up the nick completion01:29
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_Otaku_grrr... i'll use the old 2D driver although this command line client for irc is sexy01:29
naliothi love infected windows boxen01:29
Mr_Milenkonalioth: can i ask you a favor..01:29
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Mr_Milenkoyour on Linux correct?01:29
Arafangionssam: Interestingly, it does.01:29
Arafangionssam: But the rc.d scripts don't.01:29
Mr_Milenkodownload that file, bzip it.. and send it to me01:29
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Mr_Milenko:D01:30
nboundbimberi, thanx for your help anyway :)01:30
LY^Xappe, maybe my pc just is that slow. Have to wait untill i get my other card back to get it running with more fps then.01:30
LinuxMonki should download that and take it appart and reconfigure it to install linux on windows boxes01:30
ssamArafangion, do you have auto eth0 (or what ever interface you want) in you /etc/network/interfaces01:30
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cafuego!test01:31
ubotuStop poking me!01:31
bimberinbound: np - at least you've had your repository setup looked over :P01:31
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Arafangionssam: That's interesting, auto wasn't in there. I neglected to check that because it was setup and running before.01:31
Arafangionssam: The installation should've set it up as auto, imho.01:32
Mapionetkajust a question... can i modify bash to show a timestamp? like irc?01:32
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ArafangionMapionetka: Of course.01:32
ssamArafangion, try it with auto01:32
zotsonhello, I'm a linux noob, I can't find totem-xine, someone could help me plz ?01:32
Mapionetkalink to howto or a poke in the right direction?01:32
Arafangionssam: Yup, that did the trick, thanks :)01:32
ssamArafangion, :-)01:32
LinuxMonkMapionetka man pages for bash :)01:33
Arafangionssam: Wierd that it wasn't already auto, though.01:33
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Otakuthere i am again, using old driver01:33
ssamArafangion, i have found that if you start messing with that file it gets in a mess :-)01:33
Otakubut i want the new driver to work :(01:33
buuliananyone know of an aim client that runs in terminal?01:33
CarlFKbuulian: yes... just a sec01:34
ssamArafangion, if it were in xml i think it would be easier for config apps to cope with01:34
Arafangionssam: I never edited that file.01:34
Otakuwould the logs of the crash of X when i use the new driver help any of you to help me solve the driver problem? (damn what a sentence)01:34
Arafangionssam: And I do not agree with that assertion of xml.01:34
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Arafangionssam: xml has it's advantages, but it is not suitable as a generic configuration format.01:35
ssamArafangion, plain text files can be a pain to parse and edit if they get modified by a human01:35
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Arafangionssam: I have never had a problem with my other systems.01:35
Arafangionssam: And it will be over my cold, dead body when I am forced to edit postfix, postgresql and bind9 via xml files only! :)01:36
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gimmulf!opengl01:36
ubotugimmulf: I don't know, could you explain it?01:36
gimmulf!OpenGL01:36
ubotugimmulf: Are you smoking crack?01:36
CarlFKbuulian: http://sourceforge.net/projects/simpleaim01:36
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buulianthanks!01:36
Steve^Hello01:36
CarlFKbuulian: there are others... search sf.net for aim and console01:37
ssamArafangion, if there a vim for xml then it would be easier01:37
orfeu!firefox1.501:37
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion01:37
nekostarusing cpan how can i fix a make: *** [pure_site_install]  Error 2 error?01:37
ssamArafangion, xml can also be validated01:37
Arafangionssam: xml is suitable when the configuration can be expressed in a purely hierachical mannar, but it gets very, very, very nasty quickly when the data is not hierchical.01:37
CarlFKwhat is the fstab or mount option for smbfs to allow users write access?01:37
gimmulf!fluxbox01:37
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ubotumethinks fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net01:37
Arafangionssam: And non-xml files are quite easy to parse, actually.01:37
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Steve^I'm currently using a Live Ubuntu in an attempt to shrink my other linux partition so I can install Ubuntu for real.  Is it safe, and is it possible to unmount the linux swap partition so I can re-size the linux thing altogether?01:37
HClcan someone help me getting software suspend 2 support working? i can install the hibernate package, but when i try to run it it says my kernel doesn't support it..01:38
Steve^Firstly, I'd need root access01:38
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CarlFKumask I think, but I can't remember what the parameters are... my guess is umask=777, but im affraid01:38
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Arafangionssam: Have you ever tried to make an xml schema for a validating xml file? It's not as easy as you think. Much easier to use more basic formats.01:39
simakI want to add a bonus path to .bashrc.  Do I use 'export PATH:"$PATH ... or _____?01:39
Arafangionssam: And, imho, easier to  read and edit imho.01:39
simak!PATH01:39
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ubotusimak: Are you on ritalin?01:39
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poningru_sleepSteve^: what are you using?01:40
ssamArafangion, if you like writing parsers, and keeping track of white space and comment that have been added01:40
Arafangionssam: Those are very easy.01:40
Steve^poningru_sleep, what? What what?01:40
CarlFKsimak: look in .bashrc or ./etc/profile for the lines that add ~/bin to the path if it exists01:40
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Arafangionssam: Incidentially, an XML file _still_ has to be parsed.01:40
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Steve^poningru, oh, gparted, if that is what you mean01:40
poningruSteve^: yeah01:40
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simakCarlFK, Yeah, I've done that.  I want ~/bin and ~/dir/dir/specialapps/bin01:40
Moratoriumahoy there01:40
poningruSteve^: yeah dude quite safe01:41
ssamArafangion, but you just get a library to do it01:41
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CarlFKsimak: then do it like the ~/bin line ;)01:41
MoratoriumI cant get ubuntu running on my laptop, can anyone help me out?01:41
poningruMoratorium: whats wrong?01:41
Arafangionssam: Yes, but now we have to deal with schema's, validating and non-validating parsers, xml namespaces, and all that shit.01:41
Steve^poningru, the problem is: I tried re-sizing. At the end it said one of the changed things was busy and to reboot. I rebooted and nothing has happened01:41
simakCarlFK, I'm afraid to mess with the ~/bin thing because it's nested in some if statement.01:41
a_monkeythats a common problem Moratorium01:41
luisitohello01:41
poningruSteve^: hmm weird01:41
Steve^poningru,  I think I need to unmount the linux swap too?01:41
poningruyeah you do01:42
ssamArafangion, apple use plist for all their config files, and ship a xml browser that you can use to edit any setting01:42
poningruwait01:42
CarlFKsimak: where did you find the bin thing?01:42
Steve^what's the Live CD root password?01:42
Moratoriumwhen I start up, it says it cant start the xserver and then goes to the comand prompt01:42
poningruSteve^: I am not sure about the umounting thing01:42
Arafangionssam: Apple is an OpenStep system.01:42
ssamArafangion, and then there is gconf01:42
simak.bash_profile01:42
Steve^hmm01:42
poningruSteve^: it doesnt have a password01:42
simakCarlFK, .bash_profile01:42
Arafangionssam: gconf is more for the desktop than for servers.01:42
Arafangionssam: Desktop and servers are entirely different beasts (imho)01:42
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Steve^poningru, well, other than umount it.. what can I do?01:43
simakCarlFK, if [ -d ~/bin ]  ; then01:43
simak    PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"01:43
simakfi01:43
CarlFKsimak: PATH=~/dir/dir/specialapps/bin:"${PATH}"01:43
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simakCarlFK, does this append or overwrite?01:43
Moratoriumand it tells me nothing about whats wrong01:43
Arafangionssam: When I do configuration files for my programs, I just do it in option = value <newline> format.01:43
fanopnaicSeveas: I am not really sure whether this is your turf, but the contents-pages on mirror2?.ubuntulinux.nl are broken (403)01:43
luisitoI have a hardisk in the IDE0 as master but when I try to mount it the command tells me that hda doesn't exists01:43
CarlFKArafangion: desktops are normaly flat and wide, servers are normally towers?01:43
ArafangionCarlFK: :)01:44
poningruSteve^: yeah try it01:44
luisitowhat should be?01:44
luisitowhat could be?01:44
CarlFKsimak: it appens it to the begging01:44
CarlFKsimak: so I guees it prepends it01:44
poningruluisito: how are you trying to mount it?01:44
poningruwhats the command you are using?01:44
Steve^poningru, I'm guessing it is 'umount /dev'   as all the hdas are /dev/something?01:44
simakCarlFK, okay will test.  Thanks for being patient w/ me.  You are really nice.01:44
Moratoriumanybody got any tips?01:44
Arafangionssam: And it's unbelievably easy to parse (Just an import and that's it)01:44
luisitosudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda /home/luisito/Desktop/disco01:44
ssamArafangion, i do the same, but it feels very delecate, and you have to write a fair bit of code to do that01:44
AlinuxOShello someone uses PPC-Ubuntu version? or has Apple keyboard01:44
luisitoponingru, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda /home/luisito/Desktop/disco01:45
Arafangionssam: No, you don't.01:45
poningruSteve^: oh I am not sure about that01:45
CarlFKsimak: your welcome.  quick note: "${PATH}" is the existing path wtih " " around it01:45
ssamAlinuxOS, yes01:45
Arafangionssam: If you're not using scripting languages, you have to write a parser, but the parser can be very simple.01:45
CarlFKsimak: collen is what you use to seperate dirs in the path01:45
navaroneluisito..try mounting in in /media01:45
simakCarlFK, for reference, what tells it to append or prepend?01:45
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AlinuxOSssam, I don't know why some of buttons dosen't work for me...01:45
Steve^poningru, my mount list, if it helps:  http://pastebin.com/50177801:45
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Arafangionssam: How would you feel if vim used an xml configuration file?01:46
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CarlFKsimak: easy:  in PATH=~/dir/dir/specialapps/bin:"${PATH}"  - is dir/dir... before or after "${PATH}" ?01:46
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AlinuxOSeven then I choose mac keboard driver01:46
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ssamArafangion, is there a good library anywhere for just getting and setting keyword pairs from a file01:46
simakCarlFK, no I meant append vs. overwrite01:46
ssamAlinuxOS, which ones01:46
luisitonavarone, but it tells me hda doesn't exists01:47
poningruSteve^: dont umount /dev I dont know whether that will have the correct effect01:47
AlinuxOSnew external keyboard (iMac bundle)01:47
CarlFKsimak: yer missing it.   PATH= means "here is a new path"  and the new path is all the other stuff: dir/dir *and the original path*01:47
ssamAlinuxOS, sorry, i meant which keys dont work :-)01:47
navaroneluisito try command "fdisk -l" in terminal and see what it says01:47
Steve^Looking in GParted, /dev/hda5 is currently Active01:47
Steve^Which makes hd3 active, which probably means I can't resize it01:47
AlinuxOSF13 F14 F15 F1601:47
poningruSteve^: then umount only that01:48
simakCarlFK, is it the brackets {} that mean 'insert orrignal path'  ?01:48
ssamArafangion, i have not messed with the vim config file01:48
Moratoriumhelp please someone?01:48
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CarlFKsimak: close.  $(var) means "use the current value of var"01:48
AlinuxOSKeyboard Shortcurts - of gnome can't assign them for example: screenshot etc...01:48
Steve^umount: /dev/hda5 is not mounted (according to mtab)01:48
rafalhello01:48
MoratoriumIm rather stranded01:48
Arafangionssam: In my case, I just import the file, as I tend to do it in python. In any case, all I do if it were in C, would be to: (1) Read all lines, ignoring anything after a # (Unless it is in a quoted string), and ignoring empty lines, and squash whitespace, (2) Put everything to the left of '=' into a hash, and everything to the right of '=' as the value (Perhaps using a struct)01:48
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poningruyou have to find out where it is mounted01:48
poningruits not mounted in /dev01:48
poningruhold on01:48
trinidadwhat is a good application to format a partition after ubuntu is already installed?01:49
Arafangionssam: Well, if you did, you'd know that it is very logical, almost verbatim as to what you type in a regular session.01:49
navaronetrinidad...gparted01:49
ssamAlinuxOS, i have a powerbook so mine only go up to F12. you could look up a tutoial on changing keymaps. or file a bug01:49
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simakCarlFK, $VAR  not necessarily with the () means 'use the current var', right?01:49
luisitonavarone, this is strange, only /hda/sda1 is shown01:49
poningruSteve^: its /tmp I think01:49
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rafalodbc dont working - some suggestions?01:49
flodinecan someone tell me if ubuntu will work with a intel 955 chip dual core?01:49
simakCarlFK, the language this is in .... is it bash script?01:49
AlinuxOSssam, which tutorial?01:49
flodinehelp01:49
poningruflodine: ofcourse01:49
bimberiMoratorium: try logging in and running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", answer the questions as best you can (the defaults can be pretty good), once finished - "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start"01:49
Steve^poningru, so,  'umount /tmp'?01:49
poningruSteve^: yep01:50
CarlFKsimak: WHOOPS!   I got confused.  ${var} isn't $(var)... yes.  bash01:50
EugmanHey can something like ubuntu lite or xbuntu work on an old millenium comp?01:50
ssamAlinuxOS, i think there is one on the ubuntu wiki somewhere01:50
Steve^poningru, only root can umount it. I need a root password for super user?01:50
orfeuhow can i install firefox 1.5 from testing repositories01:50
orfeu?01:50
navaroneSteve sudo01:50
Moratoriumthank you bimberi01:50
poningruSteve^: just go sudo umount /tmp01:50
simakCarlFK, are the braces part of the deal, or juest the $ dollar sign for 'insert current var'01:50
poningru!tell orfeu about firefox1.5401:50
bimberiMoratorium: np, hope it helps :)01:50
poningru!tell orfeu about firefox1.501:50
AlinuxOSssam, link me if you can...01:51
CarlFKsimak: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html01:51
ArafangionEugman: What is an "old millenium comp"?01:51
CarlFKsimak: "both"01:51
Steve^umount: /tmp: device is busy01:51
Steve^:(01:51
Mr_Milenkosimak: if i didnt know what you were talking about.. id say that line comes off a bit kinky if taken out of context01:51
Mr_Milenko:P01:51
navaroneponingru...you made me think I had to upgrade again...<s>01:51
simakCarlFK, WHY DO I ALWAYS forget about TLDP????01:51
poningruSteve^: thats not it then hold on01:51
Arafangionssam: Out of interest, what programming languages do you write in?01:51
CarlFKsimak: there are old ways and new ways that do the same thign01:51
rafalodbc in ubuntu?01:51
ssamArafangion, i'm mean more config files that you want to be modified by software01:51
CarlFKsimak: cuz someone has too, and I finaly started remembering it, so it is your turn01:52
Arafangionssam: /etc are intended to be modifed by teh admin.01:52
poningrunavarone: ?01:52
orfeuhow can i install testing applications from repostiories ?01:52
poningruSteve^: I dont think you can umount your swap01:52
ssamArafangion, i am begining to use python, but i am not a heavy coder01:52
navaroneponingru...you said ff1.54 first...i was like "whaaa...?"01:52
poningrutry to use gparted again01:52
Steve^ok.. so is it impossible to shrink my partition?01:52
poningrunavarone: rofl my bad01:52
Arafangionssam: But this (imho) represents the biggest difference between a server and a desktop -- on a desktop, it is not practical to expect the user to edit configuration files.01:52
poningruactually 1.5.0.1 is coming out soon01:52
Arafangionssam: I am a heavy coder :)01:52
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ssamArafangion, but you want gui config tools, and installer scripts to be able to edit /etc too01:52
Arafangionssam: And in python, for your configuration files, I recommend you just use a python file, and read it as a regular python file.01:53
luisitonavarone, it seems the MB doesn't detect the HD01:53
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poningruluisito: mobo?01:53
Arafangionssam: On a server, I loath gui config tools.01:53
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poningruluisito: you might have a prob then01:54
luisitonavarone, I'll shutdown and check connectioncs01:54
navaroneluisito...are you using windows on same drive?01:54
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Steve^poningru, I'll try it again then. Thanks for the help. If it doesn't work I'll post a thread on the forums and go play with windows or something :P01:54
Arafangionssam: Also, installers merely have to cough up the file, not edit it.01:54
npfetanybody try counter-strike: source with cedega by chance? (just trying to gauge how well it would perform)01:54
EugmanI mean a computer that came with windows me when that was new01:54
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luisitonavarone, nope, the disk I'm trying to mount have windows01:54
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ssamArafangion, but you must have cases on the server where you do an upgrade and a new package has a new config file, and you have read through diffs to see what has happened01:55
Arafangionssam: A perfect example of an inappropriate use of xml is probably /etc/fstab01:55
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theverantt/quit01:55
Arafangionssam: Yes.01:55
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navaroneluisito...maybe you can paste output of fdisk -l in pastebin so people can take a look and maybe offer advice01:55
poningruSteve^: I thought you already had linux01:55
Arafangionssam: Usually only a couple of lines has changed (say, 3 lines)01:55
_Otaku_Arafangion: i think i found an error message :)01:55
_Otaku_Fatal server error:01:55
_Otaku_no screens found01:55
Steve^Well yes, SuSE01:55
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Arafangion_Otaku_: Ok, you need to reconfigure X01:56
_Otaku_how?01:56
luisitonavarone, It doesn't show any output, only showed the USB drive01:56
_Otaku_i used ati configuration script because i don't have a clue how it is configured01:56
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Arafangion_Otaku_: Someone told you how a while ago, not sure what the "ubuntu" way is, and I don't feel like telling you how to edit the raw file.01:56
ssamArafangion, but wouldn't it be better if the installer could just show you what had changes and let you yay or nay each change01:56
navaroneluisito...are you using live cd? or have you installed ubuntu?01:57
Steve^bye01:57
_Otaku_i tried it that way, but it doesn't work :(01:57
timfrost_Otaku_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:57
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Arafangionssam: No, that would only work in the simplest of cases.01:57
_Otaku_i did that about 100 times, i don't know what i'm doing wrong01:57
luisitoI have ubuntu installed on my slave disk "hdb"01:57
_Otaku_but i'll try again..01:57
Arafangion_Otaku_: What vid card do you have?01:58
Set!ubuntu-desktop01:58
ubotufrom memory, ubuntu-desktop is A metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when ugprading01:58
luisitonavarone, I have ubuntu installed on my slave disk "hdb"01:58
_Otaku_ati mobility radeon 9xxx01:58
ssamArafangion, like "this no options has appeared, do you want it", "this has changed to that" etc01:58
navaroneluisito...does fdisk -l show the hdb partiton?01:58
Arafangionssam: This would be utterly useless for my bind9 configuration.01:58
Arafangionssam: And besides, I prefer apt-listchanges for that.01:58
timfrostSteve^, I came in part-way through this.  Are you trying to resize existing partitions to add ubuntu?01:59
luisitonavarone, no. Strange, don't u think?01:59
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Arafangionssam: One file I _DO_ agree should be in xml is the X11 configuration.01:59
navaroneluisito..yeah you could say that01:59
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Arafangionssam: But... white-space delimeted files are the easiest files to parse - say, like /etc/fstab02:00
ssamArafangion, if there was a well defined xml format, which had sections for local configuration then i think it could work (maybe i am a dreamer)02:00
luisitoI'll shutdown now and check all this thing02:00
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Arafangionssam: There is a well defined xml format.02:00
luisitoI'll be back in a moment02:00
navaroneluisito  paste a copy of fstab into pastbin02:00
Arafangionssam: It is however, more complicated than most people think it is, and a conforming xml parser must reject the file entirely if it is not valid.02:01
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Steve^Heres a thought: Rebooting the kernel is included in rebooting the PC?02:01
Arafangionssam: Take a look at your /etc/fstab02:01
Steve^It's not something special?02:01
Arafangionssam: And consider how difficult an xml representation would be.02:02
OkitaWhat repository do I have to enable to get w32codecs?02:02
ssamArafangion, yes xorg.conf could benifit, it might make it easier for some gui apps to change settings02:02
ssamArafangion, i mean well defined xml schema02:02
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timfrostSteve^, yes a reboot of the PC reboots the kernel.02:02
Steve^damn02:02
timfrostOkita, multiverse02:02
timfrostSteve^, whats the problem?02:03
Steve^Shrinking the partition appears to go well, but when GParted refreshes its view, it goes back to how it was02:03
luisitonavarone, here you have it  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/697802:03
Steve^timfrost, just trying to shrink my SuSE install02:03
Steve^(for ubuntu)02:03
ssamArafangion, anyways i better be off to bed, nice to talk to you.02:03
_Otaku_xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration02:03
_Otaku_   file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20060112020202:03
_Otaku_at least it's backup'ed now02:03
_Otaku_^^02:03
Arafangionssam: I'd better get busy (Got uni stuff to organize), nice talking to you too.02:04
timfrostSteve^, what partition number is it?02:04
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Okitatimfrost: When i do, I get a bunch of 404 not founds02:04
foresightI cant find the gstreamer0.8-mad file..trying to play MP3's ^^02:04
Steve^timfrost,  physical hda3, with logical hda5 swap (which is active) and the hda5 reiserfs that I want to shrink02:04
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KeithWeissharare there addional software on the ubutnu dvd version that isn't on the cd version02:05
navarone!diskmounter02:05
timfrostOPkita, pastebin the output of 'sudo ap-get update', and pastebin sources.list02:06
ubotufrom memory, diskmounter is to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter02:06
luisitoI'll be back in a moment02:06
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navaroneluisito check out that url02:06
timfrostSteve^, hoow can you have TWO hda5 partitions?02:06
KeithWeissharwhere can i get the package list for the cd and dvd version of ubuntu02:06
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Steve^timfrost, typo :P    hda6 is the last one (to be shrunk)02:06
navaroneKeith...packages.ubuntu.com I think02:06
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navarone!packages02:07
ubotuYou can browse the packages in the Ubuntu repositories from http://packages.ubuntu.com02:07
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lowman62question: I just installed opera. When I fire it up it says that it could not start plugin operamotifwrapper please install Motif what exactly am I supposed to do?02:09
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navaronelowman try a search for motif in synaptic02:10
mwelowman62: there's wiki explaining what you need to install02:10
Okitatimfrost: http://pastebin.com/50181702:10
lowman62okay thx navarone02:10
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mwe!opera02:10
ubotuOpera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser02:10
timfrostSteve^, it sounds as if the FS in the partition has been shrunk, but not the logical partition.  Were you working from an instal CD?02:10
majdhey guys02:10
Steve^I'm working from the ubuntu Live CD02:10
majdi just got ubuntu02:10
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mwegreat02:10
navaroneI am using Opera without installing any motif...but maybe packaged in the deb...I dunno02:10
majdi've had it installed for a full 4 minutes02:10
majdi like it a lot02:10
Arafangionmajd: It is an impresive system, indeed.02:11
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majdcan i get some help installing x-chat though?02:11
majdi can't seem to figure it out, i dont even know what to get02:11
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Arafangionmajd: sudo apt-get install xchat02:11
majdthe rpm or the tar, or whatever02:11
lowman62thank you  mwe02:11
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navaronemajd...you can install xchat in synaptic package manager02:11
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mwemajd: use synaptic or the command line as Arafangion explained02:12
Arafangionmajd: All debian derived distros use .deb, not .rpm02:12
foresightmp302:12
foresighterr02:12
foresight!mp302:12
ubotuI guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:12
arrinmurrmajd: doesn't ubuntu ship with xchat?02:12
Arafangionmajd: But it is easier to just let the package system do the downloading for you.02:12
majdoh yeah02:12
majdit does02:12
Arafangionmajd: Oh, and you will probably have to enable universe and multiverse02:12
majdwtf02:12
_matejhi, is there somewhere a list of all packages in standard repositories of Ubuntu -- one more Debian user who thinks about switch :-)02:12
majdi'm retarted02:12
Arafangion!universe02:12
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource02:12
navaronemajd...first try to see if it is installed...Applications/Internet prob02:12
mwe!info xchat02:13
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ubotuxchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.4.4-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 240 kB, Installed size: 664 kB02:13
timfrostOkita, dapper-backports doesn't exist.  (and won't until after the release on APril 20).  Comment those references out from sources.list.02:13
majdbe right back02:13
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Arafangion_matej: The .debs between debian and ubuntu is somewhat incompatible, so don't mix them - other than that, it's almost exactly the same.02:13
Steve^timfrost, any ideas?02:13
Arafangion_matej: I'm a debian user myself, and while I still prefer debian for servers, ubuntu is very nice imho.02:13
rob1how can I get a 686 compiler on my Breezy pc, instead of the 386 one?02:13
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_matejI mean weird things like grass, R, qgis, etc.02:14
Okitatimfrost: I thought something like that might be the case.  For future reference, where should I get the name of a multiverse repository?02:14
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majd_hey02:14
timfrostSteve^, no clues.02:14
majd_yeah it works02:14
majd_thanks guys02:14
Arafangionrob1: What makes you say you have a 386 compiler only?02:14
navaronewn majd02:14
navaronewb*02:14
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Steve^ok, I'll go back to SuSE and post on the forums02:14
Steve^thanks02:14
ogra_ibook_matej, packages.ubuntu.com ... and yes, we have all debian packages, even grass02:14
mebaran151gnomevfs opens my ssh shares readonly02:14
mebaran151I know I have write perm's because I can scp and sftp to them just fine02:15
rob1Arafangion, tring to distcc with a gentoo laptop that does have one, and getting an error message saying that it cant find a 686 compiler on the Ubuntu pc02:15
LinuxMonkmajd_ please use a windows box, its better than the wall02:15
mebaran151what can I do to fix it02:15
_matejthanx02:15
Arafangionrob1: What is the full error?02:15
_matej/leave Good night!02:15
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mebaran151rob1, did you apt-get build-essential02:15
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rob1mebaran151, yes02:15
rob1Arafangion, http://rafb.net/paste/results/g6Fqis84.html02:15
mebaran151you have all the dev files you need02:15
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Arafangionrob1: And what compiler are you using on gentoo?02:16
majd_ok, now here's where it gets sticky, how do i install my pocket pc to run on linux?02:16
mebaran151majd_, ... you can02:16
mebaran151but it would be a mess02:16
mebaran151I tried to do it to my Smartphone02:16
mebaran151it worked02:16
rob1Arafangion, 3.3.6, which I had to also install on ubuntu02:16
mebaran151but I couldn't make calls02:16
majd_weird02:16
majd_ok give me a minute, i'll do some research see what i come up with02:16
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navaronewhat kind of install would you use for a pocketpc? a kiosk install?02:17
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rob1Arafangion, chost is "i686-pc-linux-gnu"02:17
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Arafangionrob1: I have never dealt with distcc, but it may be beneficial to setup a custom compiler, compile and install your own compiler which you then use to perform your distcc.02:17
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saotome_i don't know if if this happned to anyone, or if i'll be able to explain it correctly...02:17
majd_navarone, i have no idea, i'm searchin www.aximsite.com02:17
rob1Arafangion, I was afraid of that, was hoping there was a package (which I can't find) :(02:18
saotome_in gnome, the mouse cursor, when it moves from position to position, has a big jump in pixels02:18
ogra_ibookmajd_, www.handhelds.org02:18
saotome_if you move the mouse slowy you can see it "jumping"02:18
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saotome_now, this is particularly annoying, when you are using apps that have a lot of small buttons, and you want to execute an option in particular02:18
saotome_anyone know how to regulate this?02:18
Arafangionrob1: If you were using only ubuntu systems, I suspect you could just use ubuntu compilers, but when you're mixing distros, I'd like to ensure that they are all setup properly.02:18
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navaronesaotome what type of mouse? usb...ps/2?02:19
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saotome_it doesn't actually matter what hardware i use02:19
saotome_it's the same02:19
saotome_but i use a touchpad and a usb02:19
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navaronelaptop?02:19
saotome_yep02:19
somerville32Hi02:19
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saotome_dell inspiron 600002:19
somerville32What is a good CVS client for ubuntu?02:19
majd_anyone recommend wine?02:20
Arafangionsomerville32: "cvs"02:20
navaronehmm...never used a laptop...<sigh> so no experience from me...02:20
Arafangionmajd_: Yes.02:20
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timfrostOkita, add universe and multiverse to the lines in sources.list that include main.  See http://pastebin.com/50182802:20
saotome_well02:20
somerville32Arafangion: You must have misread. I said _good_ cvs client :P02:20
saotome_i don't think this is hardware related02:20
Arafangionsomerville32: THat *IS* a _good_ cvs client :)02:20
saotome_it's some kind of configuration inside gnome, X or something02:20
Arafangionsomerville32: I prefer svn ;) Perhaps you need to define "good" ;)02:21
saotome_or just that gnome is like that and i have to accept it02:21
somerville32Arafangion: Pref. One that integrates into the file manager02:21
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navaronesoatome...what vidcard?02:21
majd_this is cool02:21
majd_http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/index.php02:21
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majd_but it doesn't support windows mobile 502:21
saotome_ati x30002:21
majd_so it's kind've pointless02:21
_Otaku_reconfigured xserver-xorg for the 1000st time, and i'm kind of getting tired of it02:21
Frederickfolks anyone here had succes using a USB speed stream bodem?02:21
Arafangionsomerville32: I have not found any that do so on linux :(02:21
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somerville32Arafangion: Cerevisa or what ever it is does, I think02:22
Frederick*modem I meant02:22
saotome_Frederick: i have it, but use it through a regular lan02:22
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somerville32Arafangion: But I think it is KDE02:22
saotome_Frederick: why would you want to use it through USB?02:22
navaronesaotome could you copy and paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf into a pastebin plz for us to look at your configuration...?02:22
Fredericksaotome_: what do you mean?02:22
_Otaku_it keeps saying no screen found02:22
navarone!pastebin02:22
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:22
somerville32Otatku: You might have to reconfigure the xserver02:22
saotome_Frederick folks anyone here had succes using a USB speed stream bodem?02:22
saotome_i have one of those02:22
majd_how's ubuntu pronounced?02:22
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majd_oobuntoo?02:23
majd_or ooboontoo02:23
Fredericksaotome_: hm 1 sec02:23
_jasonubotu, tell majd_ about pronounce02:23
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saotome_LOL02:23
majd_or ubuntoo02:23
majd_!pronounce02:23
uboturumour has it, pronounce is how to pronounce 'ubuntu': "oo-BOON-too".  See http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/pronunciation for details.02:23
saotome_you are trying to find out ubuntu's proper pronunciation?02:23
^majik^majd_: I pronounce it as you-bun-too myself02:23
majd_yeah02:23
Fredericksaotome_: thx a lot02:23
saotome_there's official documentation on the pronuciation?02:23
Frederickgtg02:23
saotome_hahahahahahahaha02:23
majd_lol02:24
alekandrAnyone care to give me a pointer on the following: running a cron job hourly, program path:  perl /usr/local/yuis.pl ( and how to add it, do i just type it as is in the cron file? if there is one )02:24
saotome_that's what i love about spanish, everything has one way of being pronounced02:24
majd_i think you-bun-too sounds best02:24
saotome_na, i don't like that one02:24
saotome_actually laughed out loud when my cousin saw my computer booting and said that02:24
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timfrostalekandr, as what user?02:24
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navaroneluisito   check this url...02:25
FarmerTomWould I gain murh from compressing (.gz) a tarball filled with mp3s?02:25
navarone!diskmounter02:25
ubotuI guess diskmounter is to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter02:25
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slew!repositories02:25
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource02:25
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saotome_well, it seams my topic is lost, so i'm out of here02:25
saotome_see ya guys02:25
alekandrtimfrost: myself, i gave myself chown permission for everything that it updates, so its fine if im the user02:25
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somerville32Come back soon!02:26
slew!easysource02:26
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:26
arrinmurrFarmerTom: probably not, but you can always try02:26
mannyi am trying to install the VIA unichrome drivers, in order to do that i need to run the command "make LINUXDIR=/usr/src/<kernel> DRM_MODULES=via" yet the src folder is empty, so how do i fix this, my best guess is to install the source how would i go bout doing this ?? any help is appreciated02:26
FarmerTomarrinmurr, me thinks its not worth the time02:26
luisitonavarone, I have it thank you. It seems the cable of the disk was bad connected.02:26
navaroneahh02:26
luisitonavarone, but now I can mount it but can't view the contents of the directory :/02:27
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arrinmurrFarmerTom: yeah, usually the size will be almost exactly the same02:27
timfrostalekandr, run crontab -e.  Add a line '0 *  * * *  perl /usr/local/yuis.pl'.  Save the file.   The job should run on the hour everey hour02:27
nelpostoahhhh, the console is hurting my feelings :'( :'(, anyone able to help?02:28
navaroneluisito what command did you use to mount drive?02:28
luisitonavarone, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /home/luisito/Desktop/disco02:28
FarmerTomHow can I 'sync' a tarball with a directory? When I made the original tarball (about an hour ago) some files did not go in, but I do not know which they are.02:28
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luisitonavarone, I also did sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/disco/02:29
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navaroneluisito...I dunno...but maybe try mounting in /media...maybe mounting in home directory causes probs02:29
navaroneahh02:29
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luisitonavarone, I don't understand why It keeps telling me those things, I have done it before and worked great02:30
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nelpostoI'm having problems with compiliing new kernels that wont listen to the 'vga=xxx' part of their boot line02:30
luisitonavarone, in hd and live cd versions02:31
nelpostoI know there's an option that I have to set when makeing menuconfig / xconfig, but I have no idea which .. any ideas?02:31
navaroneluisito you can get the drive to automount if you like...typw !diskmounter and go to url ubotu provides. You can dl a script that will edit your fstab and provide automounting. I have used twice and no probs02:32
alekandrtimfrost: with the ' 's?02:32
navaroneluisito...script will probablt give correct options to allow write and such as well...although not for an ntfs drive02:33
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timfrostalekandr, no just what is between them.02:34
Okitatimfrost: I have more packages now, but still not w32codecs or libdvdcss02:34
timfrostOkita, are you sure they are available for dapper?02:35
alekandrtimfrost: how do i save in nano, never used it, normally use vim or gedit :/02:35
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timfrostalekandr, CTRL-O to write, CTRL-X to exit02:35
navaronealekandr, ctrl-x and then "y" to save I think02:36
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Okitatimfrost: I guess not?  My alternative is to download .debs and install them somehow?02:36
alekandrtimfrost: what am i saving the file as, at the moment its in /tmp/02:36
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timfrostOkita. or go back to breezy02:36
luisitonavarone, now I did it with diskmounter and it worked.02:36
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navaroneluisito...woot02:36
timfrostalkandr, crontab -e will copy the file from /tmp/ to the correct place02:37
qwegreetings. seasoned linux user here, but new to ubuntu. question 1: how do i disable screen's 'splash screen'?02:37
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yanisholle02:37
navaroneluisito..ain't technology great...? :)02:37
yanishello02:37
Okitatimfrost: You mean repositories?  I need Dapper for various reasons02:37
yanisdoes a user have read access to other home folders by default?02:37
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navaroneyanis I wouldn't think so02:38
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Follerhey... i'm a beginner in linux, and i'm having problems to configure my dsl connection(modem = speedstream 5200, thru usb). any help?02:38
ubuntume202:38
MacSlowIs it possible that the flight-2 ISO-image for i386 is corrupt?02:38
Mitjaqwe: you mean the nVIDIA one?02:38
ubuntui really like this though02:39
insomndhi, how can i broadcast a computer's IP address to say a specific IP address? or maybe an email?02:39
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DeterministFoller, if you have any way to use that modem using ethernet, do so02:39
qweMitja: no, I mean the splash screen you get when you run "screen"02:39
yanisnavarone: if the last byte is read it's refers to the others group right?02:39
navaroneFoller> I used a usb modem in my Mandrake days and had to give up...I would get a cheap ethernet card and use that if you can...you can still use usb just plug it into the rj jacks02:39
MacSlowThe md5sum was ok, but during the install the base-install totally failed02:39
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qwealso, my cpu starts up stepped down to 800mhz, and it won't let me raise it back up... no errors, but no effect either02:40
FollerDeterminist - why? ubuntu doesnt support usb?02:40
Deterministnavarone, plug the usb into the RJ jacks? :)02:40
navaroneFoller...still use the usb modem I meant...<s> but thru ethernet connection02:40
dr3wsterdoes anyone here know how to get rhythmbox to automatically update my music library?02:40
DeterministFoller, it does, dont go there. take my advice here.02:40
luisitonavarone, but now I'm intrigued why it didn't work?02:40
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navaroneDeterminist...I caught myself...lol02:40
ajmitchDeterminist: why do you suggest that? I've got a (different) usb dsl modem working :)02:41
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ajmitchyes, ethernet would be much easier02:41
Follerwhy not use usb? in fact i have an spare ethernet card here, but i don't have a cable.02:41
ubuntui cant get linux to run on my new comp it starts fine on this old one but when i try and run the live disk on my new dell it says  something is wrong with x server does anyone know what the problem could be02:41
Deterministajmitch, hell mate, please make a usb adsl topic on the wiki then on how you've managed to do that02:41
mike__hi somebady talk spanish??02:41
ajmitchDeterminist: it depends on the modem02:41
alekandrHow do you turn overtype OFF in gedit?02:41
Kyralmike__: #ubuntu-es02:41
Deterministajmitch, i suppose, yes02:41
navaroneFoller...you can try to use usb...but I prefer path of least resistance...ethernet is pretty much guaranteed to work02:41
BxL!es02:42
Kyralalekandr: hit the Insert key?02:42
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:42
mike__thanks02:42
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ajmitchDeterminist: since this modem I have has drivers in the kernel02:42
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Deterministajmitch, but having an ubuntu dsl modem knowledge base can be nice02:42
Ophiocusalekandr, press the insert key to the right of the main keys on your keyboard02:42
ubuntume?02:42
nboundhow do i format a drive (such as a memory stick) in ubuntu???02:42
alekandrKyral: Cheers buddy, :] 02:42
qweubuntu: lame nick yo02:42
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dr3wsterhow do I make rhythmbox update my library? there has to be _some_ way to do that02:43
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trkoreckyHow is the latest SuSE in comparison to Ubuntu?02:43
timfrostOkita, I just checked breezy. I have w32codecs installed, but apt-cache policy doesn't show a repository02:43
Deterministubuntu, doesnt xchat drive you mad blinking red with that nick of yours? lol02:43
Mr_Milenkoqwe: lame flame bro02:43
timfrost!w32codecs02:43
ubotuI heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install02:43
Mr_Milenkolol02:43
qweMr_Milenko: :)02:43
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qweMr_Milenko: well, he's going to get a highlight whenever anyone says "ubuntu", so yeah, it's lame02:43
Deterministajmitch, erm, well... did ubuntu recognize your modem as an ethernet device and you just had to add it to interfaces?02:44
LordMelkorIs it possible to install software meant for OS X on ubuntu?02:44
nboundhow do i format a drive (such as a memory stick) in ubuntu??? any idea???02:44
timfrostOkito, look at http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s - that may be the answer02:44
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matthewjamescan someone help me with partitioning?02:44
Follernavarone - so it would be hard to use usb on ubuntu? how much harder? :P02:44
qwenbound: figure out the corresponding entry in /dev and mkfs on it02:44
nboundqwe, thanx02:44
ajmitchDeterminist: no, we use pppoa here :)02:44
matthewjamescan someone help me with partitioning?02:44
qwenbound: usually /dev/sd*, but be careful if you have scsi or sata drives02:45
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LordMelkorIs it possible to install software meant for OS X on ubuntu??02:45
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nboundqwe, i have 1 sata hdd02:45
Deterministajmitch, hmmm, i'm not too familiar with DSL , i'm an RF cable modem and IPVPN solution guy at the local cable company so DSL is foreign to me.02:45
Mr_Milenkono LordMelkor02:45
navaroneFoller> I dunno to be honest...I just know that I was unable to get Mandrake to play ball with usb...like 2 years ago. I dunno if it has improved lately...plus it depends on the modem make and if the manufacturer has Linux drivers available02:45
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bimberiLordMelkor: no (not binaries)02:45
qwenbound: what is it? /dev/sda?02:45
Mr_Milenkounless you install PearPC02:45
Mr_Milenkoits an Emulator of sorts02:45
nboundqwe, yep02:45
matthewjamescan someone help me with partitioning?02:45
qwenbound: the usb drive will probably show up as /dev/sdb then02:46
Kyralmatthewjames: what about it?02:46
matthewjamesjust a quick question02:46
nboundqwe, thx again02:46
Mr_Milenkoif you can find the source of the application it may be possible to port it to linux :)02:46
qwematthewjames: just ask it02:46
matthewjamesall i have to make is 1 partitian riht?02:46
Kyralmatthewjames: two, / and swap02:46
LordMelkoris pear better at emulating mac than wine is at emulating windows?02:46
qwenbound: np02:46
Kyralmatthewjames: if you make the free area, the partitioner will do the rest02:46
navaronematthewjames, you need a / partition and a swap one at minimum02:46
acadwhat is the best way to integrate ubuntu in a windows network where active directory is used?  and what do you need to get the windows 'personal space //server/users/username' to be the home directory?02:46
qwematthewjames: I recommend making /home a seperate partition, in case you nuke your / by accident02:47
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qwematthewjames: I learned to do that the hard way02:47
DeterministFoller, you can try and check if your modem has drivers... just google for it or check the ubuntu hardware database or something.02:47
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Kyralseperate /home is VERY nice02:47
matthewjamesque lets private chat for a min02:47
somerville32acad: Thats a bit question. Go hire IBM to answer it :P02:47
qwematthewjames: sure02:47
matthewjamesqwe*02:47
arrinmurrLordMelkor: what osx app do you need? are you sure there's no good linux alternative?02:47
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matthewjamesk02:47
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Paradossohi everybody02:47
Paradossois there any good tutorial on how to install lm-sensors under breezy?02:47
LordMelkorarrin i wanna install ipod updater software02:47
KyralParadosso: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors02:48
nboundqwe, sdb wont display whats in it in nautilus is it still the right thing? also is there a command to format to FAT02:48
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Mr_MilenkoShort story: Make three partitions a root partition ( / ) a swap partition, and a partition used as your home directory02:48
matthewjamesk, accept qwe02:48
qwematthewjames: not dcc you fool02:48
qwematthewjames: just /msg me02:48
Mr_Milenkonbound: if you ever used partition magic, i suggest getting gparted.. its nice02:48
Kyralqwe: no calling people "fool"02:48
matthewjameshow, lol02:48
Mr_Milenkoyeah fool02:49
qweKyral: haha ok, wasn't entirely serious ;)02:49
paulproteuslol, Mr_Milenko (-:02:49
Kyralqwe: I know, but others may not02:49
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qwematthewjames: /msg qwe <message>02:49
qwedcc is a pain in the butt02:49
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qweso, no screen users in here, eh?02:49
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arrinmurrLordMelkor: after little bit of googling i found this http://ipodlinux.org/Updater - maybe that would help?02:50
Kyralqwe: I <3 Screen02:50
qweKyral: do you know how to turn off that annoying splash text?02:50
nboundMr_Milenko, thanx gettin it now02:50
Mr_Milenkonp02:50
majd_ubuntu's screen saver's pretty ugly =\02:50
Kyralqwe: Screen has splash text?02:50
Mr_Milenkoits rather nice for converting partitions from one format to another02:50
qweKyral: mine does02:50
Mr_Milenkobut keep in mind02:50
Mr_MilenkoREAD everything it tells you02:50
navaronemajd...try Lament if you have it...and opengl works...<s>02:50
qweKyral: copyright notice and the lot02:51
Mr_Milenkoits very easy to fudge somethin if not used properly02:51
Kyralqwe: look in your ~/.screenrc02:51
durtlordmelkor: why cant you just follow the linux installationation instructions?02:51
matthewjamesk, anyone know of a good part software, that can remove parts also?02:51
ajmitchqwe: startup_message option02:51
qweKyral: don't have one02:51
Kyralmatthewjames: GParted02:51
LordMelkordurt.. there arnt any?02:51
Paradossoanybody knows a nice yet light sensors frontend?02:51
matthewjamesunder windows02:51
Mr_Milenkoi just said that >_<02:51
KyralParadosso: GKrellm02:51
Mr_Milenkoor do you mean HARDWARE parts?02:51
qwegkrellm rocks02:51
Kyralqwe: /etc/screenrc02:51
Mr_Milenkoor parts as in PARTITIONS?02:52
timfrostmatthewjames, PartitionMagic02:52
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nboundMr_Milenko, it only seems to give me my hard drive partitions :S02:52
matthewjameskyral, under windows02:52
durtlordmelkor: http://ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux02:52
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Kyralmatthewjames: sorry then02:52
nboundMr_Milenko, oohhhh dont worry02:52
matthewjamestim, is it free?02:52
qwehah, there it is... thx Kyral, ajmitch02:52
Mr_Milenkonbound: what exactly are you trying to accomplish again?02:52
LordMelkoroh i didnt know that site existed until arrin found it a couple minutes ago02:52
nboundMr_Milenko, format memory stick02:52
matthewjamestimfrost, is partintian magic free?02:52
Kyralno02:53
timfrostmatthewjames, no.  I don't know of any free partitioning software for windows.02:53
matthewjamesk02:53
qwehmm, using the 'ati' driver puts my lcd at native 1920x1200 but switching to fglrx knocks it down to 1280x102402:53
durt... how did you know of ipod linux then?02:53
mayoli have a problem w my keyboard us_intl in gnome02:53
Mr_Milenkothere are free partition editors02:53
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Mr_Milenkobut they run in DOS... with a faggish windows GUI02:53
Mr_Milenkolol02:53
navaronematthewjames, most live cd's provide partitioning tools like gparted and qparted. There is a system rescue cd you can dl iso for and boot from. It has ranish Partition Manager...I will get you url...brb02:54
Mr_Milenkojust google... google is thy mastar and though shalt be saved eth and shit02:54
Mr_Milenko:P02:54
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deuce`I'd like to add an alias that will apply system-wide to all users.  Can anyone tell me the right file to put it in?02:55
Mr_Milenkogoogle qooqle02:55
Spee_DerGood night everyone, time for more zzz's.02:55
qwedeuce`: /etc/bash.bashrc02:55
navaronematthewjames,  http://www.sysresccd.org/  <-- I used ranish to reset my bootable partition after some misadventures in Windows Disk Management...<s>02:55
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matthewjameswhats better gentoo or ubuntu?02:56
qwematthewjames: your preference02:56
nboundMr_Milenko, i keep getting errors when i put the new partition on the stick02:57
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qweno distribution is worse than another unless the distro in question is mandriva02:57
qwe:P02:57
Deterministmatthewjames, depends on usage, but generally, for a home user, definately ubuntu.02:57
Deterministqwe :)02:57
spbdepends on the home user in question02:57
nboundMr_Milenko, and also this:02:58
qwedepends on the definition of "home user" :P02:58
Deterministspb, well, most people i know dont get a kick at compiling stuff :)02:58
nboundThe kernel is unable to re-read the partitiontables on the following devices:02:58
nbound- /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root02:58
Mr_Milenkouhm02:58
spbDeterminist: on the other hand, some people i know don't get a kick out of being treated like an idiot ;p02:58
Mr_Milenkoi have no clue... and.. that looks bad O_o02:58
navaroneokay I am gone for the night...take care folks02:58
nboundMr_Milenko, ill just format it on a windows box :P02:58
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Deterministspb, having a distro that just works... is not treating a person like an idiot. people dont need to know or have access to everything the way such distros as gentoo provides, unless of couse they wish to and if that's the case then they have the option.02:59
spbDeterminist: last time i looked at ubuntu it was fairly inflexible02:59
qwenot nearly as inflexible as fedora03:00
spbnot being able to configure my box as i want to is what i would call being treated like an idiot03:00
Mr_Milenkoor lindo.. i mean linspire03:00
Deterministspb, you could compile pretty much everything you wanted, you just dont have portege (or whatever that's called) to do it for you.03:00
Deterministspb, ubuntu is not the OS for the likes of you then, simple isnt it? :)03:00
spbso it becomes a complete pain in the arse03:00
majd_this may strike you as a dumb question, but i'll ask anyway....03:00
majd_what's the point of multiple desktops?03:00
KyralMore space :D03:01
FarmerTomHow can I 'sync' a tarball with a directory? When I made the original tarball (about an hour ago) some files did not go in, but I do not know which they are.03:01
Mr_Milenkoi prefer ubuntu over gentoo... Gentoo is more systems administration, Ubuntu is more get it done and actually use it03:01
Mr_Milenkolol03:01
spbDeterminist: hence my 'depends on the home user in question' comment ;p03:01
DeterministMr_Milenko, exactly03:01
Deterministspb, :)03:01
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majd_i am VERY impressed with ubuntu03:02
majd_much better than mandrake03:02
qweMr_Milenko: I actually prefer gentoo, but I'm probably going to stick with ubuntu for now since a) I lost my gentoo / b) winter term just started and therefore c) I don't have time to reinstall03:02
spbmajd_: that's not saying much03:02
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qwemajd_: hell yeah. anything's better than mandrake03:02
majd_what a waste of $4003:02
Deterministspb, there's a certain level of flexibility that once you go over it... the system just becomes too much of a headache to deal with. people who want to browse webpages and edit docs usually dont need to configure every small and last detail about their os. E.g. windows and it's popularity.03:02
majd_i bought the mandrake book and it came with a dvd03:02
majd_i still don't understand how to use my webcam/printer/ipod/pda03:03
spbDeterminist: yep ... that level falls somewhere between gentoo and LFS03:03
Deterministspb, sure, it's a shite OS, but it gets stuff done and it's widely supported, so people go with that. try selling gentoo to my grandma, see how that goes :)03:03
spbi tend to see selling such things to people as a waste of time03:04
spbpeople who will get on with it tend to gravitate in that direction anyway03:04
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Deterministspb, i beg to differ, my girlfriend is adopting ubuntu these days because she's sick and tired of windows failing on her every other day because microsoft forget to plug in another hole. so that's a good example.03:04
spbi was referring to gentoo more than ubuntu03:04
khermans_Is it possible to install a DEB package as a local user somewhere under the $HOME directory?03:05
KyralThe world will soon change....03:05
Kyralkhermans_: no03:05
Deterministkhermans, do you understand what a deb package is?03:05
khermans_Determinist, guess not enough :-(03:05
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Kyralall Debpacks install into /usr03:05
Mr_Milenkothink of a deb as an MSI file03:05
khermans_Determinist, it is a Debian package03:05
Deterministkhermans, yes, i know you could figure that out mate :)03:05
khermans_Mr_Milenko, well I want the software to go elsewhere03:05
Kyralkhermans_: Debian package == .deb03:05
Kyralkhermans_: you cannot do that with a Deb03:06
khermans_kyncani, can't I extract the binaries from within ?03:06
KyralI don't think so03:06
Deterministkhermans, think of it as a predefined install package that tells where files go and what the files in the package need to run (as in other packages)03:06
khermans_Kyral, you are wrong there -- it is a tar.gz package03:06
spbiirc there are programs around to convert debs to tar.gz packages03:06
Kyralkhermans_: then its not a Debian Package03:06
khermans_Determinist, i know it tells where to put the fiel -- but I just want thin binaries03:07
spbat which point you can try to shove it elsewhere03:07
spbwhether it will work depends on the package in question03:07
khermans_spb, yeah i guess03:07
Deterministkhermans, you can use the archive manager to view the files within .deb packages as if they were tar.gz.03:07
Deterministdoesnt make them tar.gz tho03:07
KyralDebpack != tar.gz03:07
Deterministkhermans, i'm failing to see how extracting the binaries would work03:07
khermans_spb, i am trying to install ImageMagick on my shared web host -- ffmpeg installed fine from CVS into $HOME, but ImageMagic is having issues03:07
Kyralits just compressed03:07
Kyraljust install it normally03:08
NigelSkhermans_: you can extract just the file with the dpkg -x switch, obviously it'll decompress with the dir structure it has, so you'd have a ./bin ./usr etc03:08
Deterministkhermans, you could install the package, i dont think it would overwrite existing files03:08
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LordMelkoris ubuntu based on debian 2.1 or 3+03:08
KyralLordMelkor: it is based on Debian Sid03:08
LordMelkorhm.03:09
khermans_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deb_%28file_format%2903:09
LordMelkorso if i wanna install aim for linux03:09
Kyralwhy would you want to install it normally anyway?03:09
LordMelkorwhich version would i use03:09
KyralLordMelkor: sudo apt-get install gaim03:09
Kyralthe official Aim client is a JOKE03:09
khermans_Says there on WikiPedia that DEBs are encapsulated tar.gz packages with installation info03:09
qwegaim is installed by default isn't it?03:09
LordMelkormy gaim version cant file send for whatever reason03:09
Kyralqwe: yah03:09
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Kyralkhermans_: why do you want to install in /home?03:10
NigelSkhermans_: yes, it's just a normal tarball for the compression purposes03:10
Deterministkhermans, yes, that i am aware of, but it's about the same treating an msi file as an archive, it's a nono lol03:10
khermans_Kyral, this is a shared hosting server03:10
khermans_Kyral, i dont have root03:10
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Kyralkhermans_: then ask them to install it for you03:10
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NigelSkhermans_: anyway, as I say, you can get to the files within by just using dpkg -x03:10
khermans_Kyral, will they do that?!??!03:10
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Kyralkhermans_: depends on the company03:11
Kyralkhermans_: some are nice lol03:11
Deterministkhermans, if they wont... you need another hosting company03:11
khermans_Kyral, yeah they are damn cheap asses03:11
khermans_1and1.com03:11
ssstormyhello03:11
KyralThis is why I make my own servers03:11
Deterministkhermans, it's free software, me thinks... it's about 2 mins of setting stuff up, they should be able to do that for you03:11
khermans_Kyral, that's fine -- but I dont have the bandwidth i need03:11
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vineethi i installed ant in ubuntu ....running ant i get a message  unable to locate tools.jar ...any idea ??? please help03:12
DeterministKyral, actually, cybexhost.com have been very nice to me, installed every little php thing i needed and were very nice about it.03:12
Rick_KnightHi, I need some help with wpa_supplicant.03:12
khermans_Kyral, i routinely upload and download to my server at 3- MBytes/sec03:12
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vineethi i installed ant in ubuntu ....running ant i get a message  unable to locate tools.jar ...any idea ??? please help03:13
ssstormyI'm having some small issues with my video players.  I cannot play seemingly any video back on Totem or VLC but I can play on MPlayer.  Then I noticed when I changed the default output device for VLC and Totem, and tested it, I got output that looked just like what came when I tried to play those videos.  I have an old Viper Z200 (Savage 2000)03:13
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ssstormyI was curious if this was a problem anyone else has encountered03:13
FarmerTomOkay, I'm reinstalling I have all my stuff backed up, but I need to give my drive a through scrub. Earse totally everything, I have lots of 'bad sectors' too. What command do I issue when?03:14
vineetIs any one here conversant with " unable to locate tools.jar" error when running ant03:14
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varsendaggerhey i just downloaded a .sh file how do i run it?03:15
Rolansh it03:15
Kyralchmod +x nameoffile03:16
Deterministvarsendagger, chmod +x <file> , then ./file or sh <file>03:16
Kyralyah what he said03:16
varsendaggerDeterminist, thanks i knew that03:16
Deterministvarsendagger, you're welcome and i'm sure you did :)03:16
NigelSvineet: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-108149.html <-- google is03:16
varsendaggerit is a program should i run that inside my /desktop dir or should i move it elsewhere first?03:17
Deterministgrrr, do i want to get a cedega subscription?03:17
varsendaggerDeterminist, yeah03:17
Deterministjust wondering if i wanna pay just to be able to get games running on this system just because i'm too lazy to switch to winxp every time03:17
varsendaggeri was playing halflife 2 on my xbox earlier it is pretty cool, i bet it would be better on ubuntu though03:17
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varsendaggerDeterminist, why don't you emulate win xp?03:18
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Deterministdefine emulate03:18
varsendaggerqemu03:18
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varsendaggerDeterminist, there is a decent wiki on ubuntulinux03:19
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La_PaRCaHey kids03:19
arrinmurrDeterminist: but isn't planetpenguin-racer all that's needed? ;)03:19
varsendaggertrue03:19
Deterministwell, for one, i'm quite certain it wont use hardware as efficiently as directX under winxp, second... i'm sure it wont do just as well as cedega03:19
Deterministarrinmurr, aye, but you gotta shoot some stuff every now and then03:19
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rikaierr, is there an easy way to disable ipc6 systemwide, instead of jsut in firefox?03:20
tolstoysethk: ?03:20
Deterministrikai, ipv6... well, have the kernel not load the module for it, me thinks03:20
sethktolstoy, ?03:20
rikaiDeterminist, i'm pretty sure ubuntu uses ipv6 by default, no?03:21
varsendaggerDeterminist, what do you play?03:21
tolstoysethk: I talked to you last night about the ipw2200 problems: things are detected, but packets get swallowed before being routed.03:21
sethktolstoy, right, I remember03:21
tolstoysethk: I just booted the "Hoary" live CD, and the wireless networking was detected and works right out of the box.03:21
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Deterministvarsendagger, nfsmw, diablo2x bnet, planetside03:22
tolstoysethk: any idea what happened between hoary and breezy to break ipw?03:22
sethktolstoy, ok, then you have a nice, well defined task - just figure out what's different.  :)03:22
sethktolstoy, no, unfortunately, no idea.03:22
tolstoysethk: hahahahahaha!03:22
Deterministrikai, i doubt it03:22
varsendaggerwhat does nfsmw stand for?03:22
Deterministvarsendagger, need for speed most wanted03:22
rikaiDeterminist, it indeed does. ;)\03:22
varsendaggerplaneside is cool03:22
Deterministrikai, the module is loaded by default, but still, ipv4 is the default03:23
varsendaggersorry offtopick03:23
Deterministvarsendagger, yeah, very cool and yes, offtopic :)03:23
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rikaiDeterminist, any idea then, why disabling ipv6 in firefoxenable dme to browse, and i see an ipv6 address in ifconfig?03:23
tolstoysethk: only thing I can tell: v 2.2 of firmware, and v. 0.19 of driver.03:24
sethktolstoy, that's a good start.03:24
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Deterministrikai, well, dunno about firefox but i'm willing to guess that there are ipv6 addresses statically assigned to your NIC, but then again, i'm not too familiar with ipv6 so i'm assuming it is similiar in behavior to v403:25
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tolstoysethk: and different kernel, 2.6.10 vs 2.6.12, I think, for breezy.03:25
whitynzHmm I'm having a problem creating a link for a certain folder03:25
sethktolstoy, yes, although if I had to bet, at this point, I'd put the kernel in third place as far as being the likely cause03:25
tolstoysethk: and breezy live CD doesn't work either, so I'm not inadvertantly introducing the bug.03:26
whitynzit says hard link not allowed for directory03:26
tolstoysethk: firmware and/or driver, then kernel, eh?03:26
derrick81787can anyone help me install mame on breezy amd64?03:26
sethktolstoy, I'd put my money on the driver first, then firmware, only then kernel.03:26
sethktolstoy, I might have the driver/firmware backwards, but the kernel is in 3rd, I think03:26
timfrostwhitynz, yes.  You need to use symlink (ln -s newname directory)03:27
tolstoysethk: you don't think there's some config setting that didn't get enabled or something?03:27
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Deterministk, i'm out, woman calling and bed's waiting03:27
whitynztimfrost, ok i'll try that03:27
Deterministnn folks03:27
sethktolstoy, I don't know of a config setting that would cause these symptoms.  I could be wrong, of course.03:28
Rick_Knighttolstoy: I guess you still don't have it working?03:28
tolstoysethk: for instance, note the request to comment out stuff in http://kerneltrap.org/node/541403:28
tolstoyRick_Knight: hi!  Nope.  Hoary Live CD works, though.03:28
timfrostwhitynz, got the order wrong (ln -s a b creates b pointing to a)03:28
Rolanwhen i use static ip, why is so slow to get the network working?03:28
sethktolstoy, let me read that03:28
whitynztimfrost, yup I got it, cheers03:28
majd_would someone be willing to help me install my hp photosmart 3200 printer?03:29
Rick_Knighttolstoy: Hmm. I've rebuilt, rconfigured, patched. Now I can build ipw2200 OK, but I cannot get a device.03:29
sethktolstoy, I'd have to look at the code to see what they are talking about, but I agree that looks suspicious, especially as it appears to be ubuntu specific03:29
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tolstoyRick_Knight: I think the debian folks changed the kernel config just enough to break us.  not that I really know, but, you know, all rational explanations seem out the window.03:31
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tolstoyRick_Knight: I even tried debian testing: same deal.  compiled 1.0.3, I think and it loaded: same behavior.  Very frustrating.03:31
|SiN|Hi to all... how can i mount ext2 partition under windows xp?03:31
Rick_KnightTolstoy, yeah, I agree. Lot's of people are having similar problems with Ubuntu/Kubunt and wireless. You'ld think they'd fix it.03:32
tolstoyRick_Knight: might be that the probs seem suspiciously like misconfigured networking.  at least a few issues I saw on bugzilla suggest the devs think that.03:33
Rick_KnightTolstoy: I've tried to email the dev list. for ipw2200. Moderator has blocked the email and I really don't want to jion a devel list.03:34
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Rick_KnightTolstoy: how far have you gotten?03:34
tolstoyI'm going to post to whatever ubuntu uses for bug tracking these days, see how it goes from there.03:35
theconartistwhat is the gnome burning app03:35
tolstoytheconartist: nautilus, or serpentine for music tracks03:35
theconartistthere is a different one03:36
tolstoybaker?03:36
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tigerrrany know where i can get the default httpd.conf for apache2... i deleted it on accident without making a backup.. i tried apt-get remove, apt-get install but it doesnt reinstall the config files03:37
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Rick_KnightTolstoy: how much of ipw2200 have you gotten to work?03:38
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Psi-JackHey. How is the support for an ATI AiW Radeon 8500, for both DRI/DRM, and TV support in Linux these days?03:39
KyralDRM...03:39
tolstoyRick_Knight: under FC4 and Hoary (Live CD): it works.  Nothing under Debian Testing or Debian Unstable or Ubuntu Breezy and Dapper03:39
KyralEVIL!03:39
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Psi-JackKyral: Heh. Which one is correct? DRI, for the Direct Rendering Interface?03:39
KyralDRI03:39
KyralDRM == Digital Rights Management03:40
Psi-JackGotcha.03:40
Psi-JackAnyway. Do you know the answer to that one? :)03:40
Rick_KnightTolstoy: I had Kubuntu-5.04 installed befor I upgraded to 5.10 and it worked there as well.03:40
KyralAtis...are okay03:40
tolstoyRick_Knight: I'm guessing it works fine under windows.03:40
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KyralNVIdia works better as usual03:40
Rick_KnightTYolstoy: it works perfectly.03:40
Psi-JackIs the TV support there?03:40
Rick_Knight(under Windows XPpro)03:40
KyralPsi-Jack: I dunno03:40
tolstoyRick_Knight: I think FC4 and Hoary used the 2.2 firmware.03:40
KyralI run an NVidia card03:41
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lowman62what is the X11 libs called?03:41
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supax03:41
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Psi-JackHmmm.03:42
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Seqis hoary able to run User Mode Linux already, or do I have to build a new kernel?03:44
Lockewhat is the command to format a different partition?03:44
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CanadianSnowok03:44
CanadianSnowso03:44
Seqby hoary with UML, i meant breezy03:44
CanadianSnowwho knows how to do autodetection03:44
Rick_KnightQuestion about ipw. Does ipw2200 create the device (eth0 or wlan0 etc) or does something els do that?03:44
CanadianSnow!bot ?03:44
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.03:44
tolstoyRick_Knight: I think I'll try ipw2200-1.0.3 and the 2.2 firmware and see how that goes.03:45
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Rick_KnightTolstoy: I did that and made no difference at all. Right now I have ieee80211-1.1.8 with the cast patch and ipw2200-1.0.10.03:46
majd_http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=112364&highlight=hp+photosmart+321003:46
Lockewhat is the command to format a different partition?03:46
majd_that thread explains how to set my printer up, but i can't follow it03:46
majd_can anyone help?03:46
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tolstoyRick_Knight: right.  just rip the hope from me. ;)  well, did you have to comment out that is_multicast_ether_addr thing?03:47
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Toma-ubotu: wiki UbotuUsage03:48
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Toma-cool..03:48
Rick_KnightTolstoy: No 1.0.3 and 1.0.0 both built fine for me. Just didn't work.03:48
Quake4IaldarisHi anyone know why WHOAMI environ would be empty in breezy?03:48
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Toma-Quake4Ialdaris: because its not needed?03:49
KyralQuake4Ialdaris: there is no $WHOAMI...03:49
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bimberithere is $USER tho03:49
aborthow do you mate the browsing bar in nautilus smaller?03:49
TheHi can someone help me?03:49
Lockewhat is the command to format a different partition?03:50
Gunfuswhat is the problem..?!03:50
Quake4Ialdarisok, USER works for me03:50
Quake4Ialdaristhanks03:50
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GunfusThe, what is the problem,.!?03:50
Toma-the: you'll need to ask the question before asking that.03:50
TheIm trying to install some applications in gdesklets03:50
timfrostLocke, it depends on what filesystem you want on it.  mke2fs /dev/hda8 will create an EXT2 filesystem on /dev/hda803:50
bimberiQuake4Ialdaris: yw :)03:50
Thebut It gives me errors03:50
Lil-AbnerHi.03:50
ITSa341hello, question about ndiswrapper. Should I use win98/winme drivers or win2k/winxp drivers??03:50
TheI do not know hot to fix it,,, Im knew into ubuntu03:50
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Lil-AbnerCan any one tell me if I can download and install Ubuntu over and existing Linux distro?03:51
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GunfusThe, what error..? what application..?! can you do a pastebin..?03:51
phrizerHey, i'm trying to get sun's java working on my system, i've downloaded 'j2eesdk-1_4_02_2005Q2-linux.bin' but am stuck there. I installed fakeroot, and java-package, java-common, and tried 'fakeroot make-jpkg j2eesdk-1_4_02_2005Q2-linux.bin' but i get a plugin not found error.03:51
NigelSphrizer: the .bin is designed to be run03:52
NigelSphrizer: if you have sun's java you prob won't be wanting gcj etc03:52
Toma-phrizer: you sure you want j2eesdk?03:52
demonstarim having trouble setting up NFS / Samba ...03:52
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phrizeroh03:53
The/home/luis/.gdesklets/Displays/OSXCornerXMMS-0.1.2/osxcornerxmms-bottomright.display03:53
The>   1 xmms = get_control('IKXmms2:701uz5p7uot652wbszeprbeev-2')03:53
NigelSphrizer: personally I would go with sun until gcj is a bit better :) unless your list of java apps is limited03:53
phrizerToma-,  ?03:53
Theand also I would like to know how can I do that every time I log in gdesklets starts automatically03:53
varsendaggerahh i can't apt-get instal mplayer what the heck, how do i add the right repo?03:54
Toma-phrizer: ee is for development.... you sure you dont want re? its the one that lets you use java web applets and so on03:54
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bimberiubotu tell varsendagger about mplayer03:54
timfrost!mplayer03:54
ubotusomebody said mplayer was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106103:54
GunfusThe, to make gdesklet start automaticly you can add it to System-> Preferences -> Session03:54
GunfusThe, for the error with Gdesklet I am not sure.. I can';t help you with that..03:55
GunfusThe, sorry03:55
GunfusThe, good luck I got to go03:55
Thethanx03:55
Thecan anyone else help me with gdesklets?03:55
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Thecan anyone tell me where are all the bins file stored03:57
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cvogelvarious directories, The.  /bin /usr/bin /usr/local/bin03:57
Lil-AbnerTo install ubuntu on a machine, do I have to download a cd and install that way, or can I download it unto an already existing distrubution of linux and install over it?03:57
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cvogelThe: at a terminal type echo $PATH03:58
cvogelthat's where bash looks for all binaries03:58
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cvogeleach dir seperated by a :03:58
Toma-The: run "env | grep PATH"03:58
cvogelYou can also add to that directory temporarily or by editing a file in your home directory03:58
Toma-or that03:58
Thethats where all the executalbes of my files are right?03:59
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cvogelthe ones bash knows about... 99% of programs installed are in those dires03:59
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ssstormyis anyone around familiar with the Xv and X11 devices?  My video players (all except Mplayer) can't play on X11 and ALL of them can't play on Xv, the reason seeming to be hardware issues with my video card03:59
_jasonThe, do "locate --regexp='/bin$'" if you want all the folders named bin :)04:00
tolstoyRick_Knight: well, 1.0.3 didn't work for me either, alas.  Same prob.04:00
tolstoyRick_Knight: I think it's a changed kernel config.04:00
tolstoyRick_Knight: you know, because I'm an expert on these things.04:00
Thecan anyone else help me with the gdesklets error that i Have?04:01
The/home/luis/.gdesklets/Displays/OSXCornerXMMS-0.1.2/osxcornerxmms-bottomright.display04:01
The>   1 xmms = get_control('IKXmms2:701uz5p7uot652wbszeprbeev-2')04:01
Rick_Knighttolstoy: do you get an interface?04:01
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Theits only happening with the desklets of xmms!04:01
tolstoyRick_Knight: I do see (with iwconfig) Invalid misc: 10.04:01
tolstoyRick_Knight: yes.04:01
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tolstoyRick_Knight: but then I've got network-manager working.04:02
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Rick_Knighttolstoy: What is network-manager?04:02
cvogelIt's a gnome utility for managing network interfaces, I think04:02
tolstoyRick_Knight: it's a little daemon + applet (nm-applet) that finds your wireless and other networks and lets you switch between them.04:03
Rick_Knighttolstoy: is it part of ubuntu?04:03
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tolstoyRick_Knight: When I do ifconfig eth0 (the wireless device), I see errors:0 and dropped:10.04:03
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cvogeleth0 is not your wireless device, probably04:03
tolstoyRick_Knight: probably in universe or multiverse.  package: network-manager04:04
cvogelMy wireless PCI card is ath0.. for atheros chipset04:04
tolstoycvogel: it is.  breezy installer set it up that way.04:04
cvogeleth0 is your ethernet card04:04
tolstoycvogel: that's eth1, and it works fine.  i've no idea why the installer preferred the wireless.04:04
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TestDummyDoes anybody have any idea why each and every GTK1 application I load uses gigantic, ugly text?04:05
tolstoyer, set wireless to eth0.  i just chalked it up to this being a new machine.04:05
cvogelwhat about iwconfig04:05
Rick_KnightWhen I've had wireless working, eth0 was my wireless interface, et1 is my Ethernet interface.04:05
TestDummyTried using switch to adjust, didn't help.04:05
tolstoycvogel: yeah, iwconfig confirms eth0.  if only that were the prob, here.04:05
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cvogelRick_Knight.. yeah.. depends on the chipset04:05
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cvogelwell.. what are you trying to do? use iwconfig eth0 essid, key, etc.. then dhclient or whatever04:06
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The>   1 xmms = get_control('IKXmms2:701uz5p7uot652wbszeprbeev-2')                      ?04:06
Rick_Knightcvogel: what brings up the interface, ipw2200 or something else?04:06
trucekillis anyoneone having trouble with the canadian universe and multiverse repositories for apt?04:06
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Theyeah trucekill04:07
Thei changed it04:07
tolstoycvogel: that all works.  it's that the driver, or something, anyway, is dropping packets.  can't even reach my router.  yet, under hoary, it works perfectly.04:07
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cvogeltolstoy.. interesting.  Hoary had the wrong drivers for my chipset04:07
josephdoes anyone know why cedega depends upon xlibs?04:07
josephwhat would happen if I installed xlibs on breezy?04:07
cvogelI had to compile them from CVS on hoary.. works out-of-box on breezy04:07
majd_can i run counter strike on ubuntu?04:08
tolstoycvogel: yeah, things should get better, not worse!04:08
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bob832hi in the process of setting up an ftp server however, when i log in on another computer, its says connection timed out...how can i go about troubleshooting this problem?04:08
Rick_Knightcvogel: My problem now is that I no longer get the interface. wpa_supplicant errors out on "no device found" .04:08
ITSa341joseph: I ran cedega on ubuntu.04:09
cvogelI ran cedega as well04:09
tolstoyRick_Knight: can you get stuff working with no encryption?04:09
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cvogelRick_Knight.. have the latest kernel upgrade?04:09
Rick_Knighttolstoy: I don't know, haven't tried. I will now.04:09
josephITSa341: on hoary or breezy?04:10
Rick_Knightcvogel: Ihave kernel 2.6.12-10. What should I have?04:10
ITSa3415.1*04:10
ITSa3415.1004:10
Thecan anyone help me?04:10
cvogelthat one is the latest, Rick_Knight04:11
ardchoillewhat's the command to bring up midnight commander in a term?04:11
josephwhat does xlibs do to a breezy installation?  does it make any changes?04:12
philcI want a static IP on one wireless network, and dhcp on another. I'm currently using network manager. Is this possible?04:12
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TestDummyNo idea on why these GTK1 fonts are so large and ugly??04:12
tolstoyTestDummy: is there something you can set in .gtkrc?  I've blocked all memory of that stuff out.04:12
tolstoyTestDummy: maybe you can at least google for that file and what to put in it.04:13
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TestDummy...04:13
TestDummyI wouldn't be on IRC asking questions if I wanted to use Google!04:13
philcwow04:13
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tolstoyTestDummy: yeah, i know, i know, but sometimes I, at least, don't know what to google for, so come here for a hint.04:14
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abarbacciahey guys - whats the command to see the size of a partition?04:14
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cvogelfdisk -s PARTITION04:14
tolstoySo do we use launchpad.com/distros/ubuntu to search for and file issues these days?04:15
abarbacciaim talking about the two letter command04:15
ITSa341I have found that google either points me to ubuntu kiwi , forums or bad info most of the time. So I always come here for help. Get it right that way.04:15
ITSa341:-)04:15
abarbacciaim talking about the two letter command04:15
aborthow do you make the nautilus browser bar smaller04:15
bimberiabarbaccia: df04:15
Thecan anyone help me with gdesklets?04:15
timfrostabarcaccia, df04:15
TestDummyDon't see much in the .gtkrc files except for what switch wrote to them.04:15
abortThe: sure04:15
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abortThe: how so04:15
bimberiabarbaccia: df -h    is worth the extra 3 keystrokes :)04:15
MadpilotITSa341: we usually point people to the Ubuntu wiki as well :P04:15
Theevery time i try to use an xmms gdesklet it does not allow me..04:16
TheIt gives me different errors04:16
Thesuch as /home/luis/.gdesklets/Displays/OSXCornerXMMS-0.1.2/osxcornerxmms-bottomright.display04:16
The>   1 xmms = get_control('IKXmms2:701uz5p7uot652wbszeprbeev-2')04:16
ITSa341yup, kiwi, or here are the places I trust for good info04:16
abortThe: how are you running the deskle04:16
MadpilotITSa341: um, it's "wiki" not "kiwi"... :D04:16
Thei installed04:16
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Theand it went to applications accessories gdesklets04:17
abarbacciaanybody here can help me with lvm?04:17
cvogelThe, from apt?04:17
Theyeap..04:17
ITSa341Madpilot I know, it's just habit :-)    you familiar with ndiswrapper?04:17
s_spiffhey.. needed help with azuerus04:17
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timfrosttolstoy, yes.  The migration to malone is set to be comopleted by 18:0 UTC, 13 Jan04:18
MadpilotITSa341: nope, I run lots of Cat5 instead of wireless, sorry04:18
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ITSa341Mad, cat5 is limited in distance. I am 2 miles from the ap   :-)   can we say cantenna   hehe04:18
TheI used apt get install gdesklets04:18
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majd_what's APT for ubuntu?04:18
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molinero???-?????? ??????? ????????04:19
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majd_i know it's for managing packets, but i can't get to it04:19
s_spiffi usually get a download speed on ABC wghile downloading torrents.. a speed of about 16kbps...but in ABC [ another bit torrent Client ]  i can set download speed to unlimited and upload to anything i choose like 3 / 4 kbps04:19
pejcaoany1 knows how to open a kodadk DCR file in lunux?04:19
abortThe: you are running the desktlet from the notification area iconZ04:19
tolstoytimfrost: ummmm, huh?  talking the launchpad thing?  ubuntu.com keeps talking about bugzilla.04:19
s_spiff in azuerus i hav to set the download spped to 6kbps to get download speed of 1904:19
Thewhat you mean from the notification area iconz?04:19
s_spiff which uses up my bandwidth .. giving me  a download speed of only 7...and upload of 7..04:20
Madpilotmajd_: Synaptic is the GUI version; apt-get is the CLI one04:20
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abortThe: the notification area is where the gaim icon and such goes, the system tray04:20
shadeofgreyhey everybody04:20
timfrosttolstoy, yes. bugzilla will go read-only sometime in the next 24 hours.04:20
s_spiff can someone give me a work around for this?04:20
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tolstoytimfrost: ok.04:20
Theyeah04:20
gdubhey all04:20
TestDummy=| Silly it..04:20
shadeofgreydoes anybody know if openoffice.org runs on powerpc - specifically Tiger?04:20
rjshow do i change from su mode back to a normal user in a terminal?04:20
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abortexit04:20
Thewell first i went to applications -> accessories and then finally clicked on gdesklets04:21
shadeofgreyif so, does anybody further know whether compatability is plannedfor the intel versions of mac hardware recently announced and released?04:21
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abortok, im talking about the cornerxmms desklet04:21
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rjsshadeofgrey: there is a project to port it, but if memory serves its proving to be hard04:21
Theyeah yeah04:21
TheI clicked and dragged to the application and try to run it04:21
wckdkl0wnhow hard is it to go from ubuntu to kbuntu? if u have ubuntu installed?04:21
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trucekillummm I think you can just apt get kde but im not sure04:22
rjsabort: thanks04:22
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arrinmurrwckdkl0wn: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:22
shadeofgreyso... whats the verdict -- wait to buy my new macbookpro until somebody comes up with a version of it that works?04:22
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MalachiWhat programs replace Evolution?04:22
MalachiI know Thunderbird, of course...04:22
s_spiffcan anyone tell me how to get screenshots in .jpg format?04:22
MalachiBut what about Evo's other features?04:22
rjskmail04:22
wckdkl0wni had ubuntu installed before and got rid of it because i couldnt figure out how to get kde on it.. and now they have kbuntu out so i wanna try it again04:22
luisitoman! the Ubuntu comunity its getting bigger and bigger. Everytime I come here there is more and more people.04:22
shadeofgreybecause id rather use some no name text editor than sell out and buy microshaft word (waste)04:22
czrMalachi, which features do you need?04:22
rjsbut you can keep evolution if you want04:22
MalachiMail, Contacts, Calendar...04:23
Madpilotluisito: 596 is pretty standard for this channel...04:23
majd_Madpilot, how do you get to it? i can't find it04:23
timfrostwckdkl0wn, 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' to install all the KDE packages.  Then choose KDE rather than gnome when youi next log in04:23
MalachiTasks...04:23
Theso abort do you have any sugestions?04:23
czrmalachi, evolution is probably the 'best' outlook-clone, for people who like outlooks04:23
Madpilotmajd_: System menu --> Admin --> Synaptic Package Mngr04:23
Malachiczr: Okay. That answers my question.04:23
wckdkl0wni am gonna go install it then i will be back lol04:23
abortThe: run gdesklets from the terminal, using "gdekslets open /path/to/.display file"04:23
Madpilotmajd_: and when it asks for a password, use your own user pw04:23
majd_yeah sorry wasn't paying attention04:23
abortThe: is xmms running when yo ulaunch it?04:24
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Theno abort04:24
Theshould i run it?04:24
s_spiffcan some1 tell me how to save the desktop sceenshot as a .jpg?04:24
abortThe: start it first, see what happens, ill brb04:24
Thesure thanx04:24
aborts_spiff, rename it to .jpg04:24
s_spiffok04:25
aborts_spiff, which doesnt work nevermind04:25
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aborts_spiff, use gimp to take the shot04:25
gdubcheck check04:25
s_spiffthanks..04:25
Thesame error04:25
The:(04:25
s_spiff no.. the rename worked fine04:25
Theabort same error04:25
czrs_spiff, it works04:26
s_spiffbut the size is huge!04:26
czrs_spiff, when you've taken the screenshot and are giving the filename, use filename.jpg instead of filename.png04:26
s_spiff1.21mb!04:26
s_spiffi did that04:26
s_spiff worked04:26
czrthe size is probably huge because you have lot of graphics on your desktop?04:27
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czryou can open the picture (png recommended) in gimp, then save it as jpg with compression options04:28
czrso you can reduce quality04:28
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tolstoyRick_Knight: Okay, this is weird, but do you think that because the installer assigned eth0 to the wireless that that is the problem, somehow?04:28
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tolstoyRick_Knight: I don't see how it could be, but people here seem shocked that eth0 is wireless, eth1 is not.04:28
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czrdoes ubuntu bind the network interface names to the MACs of the interfaces when it detects new ones?04:29
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czrassuming eth0 = wlan, eth1 = fixed, then you boot with wlan-disabled (hw-key)04:29
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czrthat would lead into oodles of problems wrt iptables04:29
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demonstarhey I need help getting xmame04:30
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Rick_Knighttolstoy: I don't know. How can I change the installer what the installer does?04:30
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needhelphow can I change the icons ?04:31
timfrostczr, /etc/iftab maps MAC address to HWname.  Check the entries there04:31
tolstoyRick_Knight: /etc/network?04:31
czrtimfrost, the question was whether ubuntu does it automatically for new interfaces04:31
s_spiffneedhelp, either download the Gnome Art04:31
s_spiff and then u have an option of installing new icon sets04:31
needhelplets say I download some iconst04:31
needhelphow can I install them04:31
s_spiff or download some icons..04:31
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_jasonneedhelp, drag them into the window where you change themes04:32
s_spiff and then go to System>Pref>Themes>Install>direect it to the icon file04:32
timfrostczr, I believe not.  But you can add entries to /etc/iftab04:32
Rick_Knighttolstoy: I've allways had eth1 as the ethernet on this notebook.tolstoy: /etc/network had all eth0 stuff remarked out.04:32
s_spiff and u'll get them..04:32
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needhelpok04:32
s_spiff then go into theme details..04:32
s_spiff and chose icons..04:32
needhelpwhere is this window?04:32
needhelpok thanx04:32
s_spiffSystem>Pref>Themes04:32
_jasonneedhelp, system prefs themes04:32
needhelps)_piff04:32
s_spiffyeah?04:32
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tolstoyRick_Knight: did you install network-manager?  Ah, that's write, it's a gnome app.04:33
czrtimfrost, I'd use nameif/ifname in bootscripts, I'm not thinking about the manual solution. RH binds the names based on MACs so that end-users don't get too confused (imho not very bad idea)04:33
s_spiff! themes04:33
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McJerrycould i run gparted under kde?04:33
KyralMcJerry: yes04:34
s_spiffi think u can McJerry ,04:34
czrMcJerry, yes if you have the necessary gnome-libs installed04:34
czrMcJerry, installing gparted should pull them automatically04:34
s_spiffif you have both GNOME and KDE installed, you can run one app. in the other env.04:34
s_spiff! metathemes04:34
ubotus_spiff: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about04:34
MadpilotMcJerry: yes, you should be able to - I run a couple of KDE apps in Gnome with no problems04:34
czryou don't have to install whole of GNOME desktop in order to run gnome programs04:34
McJerryk, thanks, i got ubuntu, buddy on west cost has kubuntu, i couldn't answer his question, tx guys04:34
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s_spiffsome one tell me what is a meta theme04:35
_jasonMcJerry, you can run it, when you install it it should pull in all the necessary gnome libraries04:35
McJerryMadpilot, i run kde apps in gnome, just didn't know if i could go other way04:35
McJerrythanks all04:35
s_spiffright,u don't have to... but i said that cuz I have both installed.04:35
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needhelps_piff I downloaded some icons I do not how to install04:36
shad0w1eI'm running Ubuntu inside of a VM, and the screen goes nuts when it enters X. I've been told this is a xorg problem, and it will work by switching over to XFree. does anyone know about this issue, or what I should do? Thanks04:36
Rick_Knighttolstoy: I just noticed, my hotplug directory is empty except for the ipw-2.3 stuff. It used to have a bunch of other stuff in it. I assume it's a casualty of some experimenting with this ipw problem. How can I get the firmware stuff back?04:37
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czrshad0w1e, which VM?04:37
shad0w1eI'm running Kubuntu 5.10 on top of Microsoft VM 200404:37
czrvmware works quite nicely with ubuntu04:37
majd_can i just download source for debian and use it on ubuntu04:37
czrmicrosoft virtual server doesn't support linux04:37
shad0w1eI mean Virtual PC04:37
shad0w1e200404:37
czrsame crap :-)04:37
tolstoyRick_Knight: I think it's all in the kernel.  So re-install that?04:37
shad0w1eI remember having this problem on Solaris 10....04:37
shad0w1eI was told it's xorg, but I dont know how to fix it04:37
czrshad0w1e, you shoulr really try vmware instead, it plays nice with linux and whatever04:38
Rick_Knighttolstoy: OK. Tomorrow.04:38
czrvpc is only good at running windows04:38
shad0w1eczr, I'll keep that in mind, thanks.. but for the time being, know of any easy way to change over to XFree ?04:38
shad0w1eczr, heh04:38
tolstoydpkg -S /lib/hotplug/firmware/ipw2100-1.3.fw-2.6.12-10-68604:38
tolstoylinux-image-2.6.12-10-686: /lib/hotplug/firmware/ipw2100-1.3.fw-2.6.12-10-68604:38
czrshad0w1e, probably not unless you might breaking package dependency rules04:38
czrshad0w1e, it wasn't a joke even04:38
czrshad0w1e, you could try to build your own xfree8604:39
cantspeakslowl1I'm trying to set up grub on a dual boot install. fdisk -l shows ubuntu on /dev/hde1 and ntfs on /dev/hdf1. I'm following the instrctions at http://ubuntuguide.org/#addwindowsentrygrubmenu with root  (hd1,0) but it isn't working...04:39
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czrshad0w1e, and then overwrite the existing X server, cross fingers and hope that it works (it probably wont)04:39
shad0w1eczr... yuck... Can I bring over my existing Linux install into VMWARE?04:39
needhelpcan anyone tell me how to install the icons I donwloaded?04:39
shad0w1eits a hard drive Image...04:39
czrshad0w1e, existing linux install under vpc?04:39
shad0w1eyes04:39
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czrshad0w1e, no. VM images are incompatible between vms I think04:39
_jasonneedhelp, we told you already04:39
needhelpyeah I following04:40
shad0w1eyuck. okay thanks a lot..04:40
czrshad0w1e, although I'm not sure whether newer vmwares can read MS VPC-images, you might want to check their web space04:40
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needhelpBut I do not know hot to it04:40
poimensomeone kwos how to enable multiverse in dapper?04:40
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needhelpI donwload a tar.gz file04:40
czrshad0w1e, check out the vmware workstation 5.5 pages04:40
shad0w1ethank you. I'll look around some more...04:40
needhelpand there are different folder...SOrry but its my first day on linux04:40
_jasonneedhelp, open system->prefs-> themes.04:40
shad0w1eFirst I'm gonna try to get running over here...04:40
shad0w1eif its not too impossible04:40
czrnever had any serious problems with vmware/linux/anything04:40
shad0w1eheh04:40
_jasonneedhelp, then click on your file and drag it into the window04:40
czrbut vpc is pos really04:40
needhelpwhats the extension of the file04:41
shad0w1eczr heh04:41
shad0w1epos04:41
czrpiece of crapola :-)04:41
_jasonneedhelp, just drag the tar.gz into that window04:41
czrunless you're running new windowses in it04:41
majd_how do i acess the terminal?04:41
needhelpohhh ok04:41
shad0w1ecrapola doesnt begin with a s04:41
needhelphold on I will do it04:41
shad0w1eheh im just messin'04:41
_jasonmajd_, applications -> accessories04:41
majd_thanks04:41
tolstoyOh, yikes!  I added a bug to launchpad, and somehow it's in "firefox (ubuntu)"!  Hm. How to change that.04:41
majd_i was looking in system04:41
_jasonmajd_, yeah it used to be there, they changed it in breezy04:42
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czrshad0w1e, crapola was a nicer version of the word that I had in mind :-)04:42
majd_i'm having trouble installing gtkpod04:42
Lockei know this is probably extremely off topic, but does anyone know anything about damn small linux?04:42
majd_it sayts to put ./configure --help04:42
czrshad0w1e, don't want to offend all the people working for microsoft on this channel ;-)04:42
majd_but that gives me an error04:42
majd_do i need to login as root?04:42
_jasonmajd_, I wouldn't recommend it04:43
shad0w1eohh look at that. it seems that if I change over to 16 bit color, it fixes my problem...04:43
needhelpIt worked THANX YOUUU04:43
_jasonmajd_, what's the error (use pastebin if it is large)04:43
needhelp:)04:43
ssstormywhat's te error?04:43
czrLocke, probably google and DSL pages is the best reference04:43
_jasonneedhelp, np04:43
majd_bash: ./configure: No such file or directory04:43
czrLocke, unless you had a specific question in mind04:43
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czrLocke, also LJ had an article about it some issues ago04:43
ssstormymajd_, well that's pretty straight forward04:43
_jasonmajd_, then you are probably in the wrong directory04:43
ssstormyit's not in the dir oyu'r in04:43
Lockeczr: i just want to install it for a nothing but command line, but i can't figure out how to get it from launching the GUI04:43
Rick_Knighttolstoy: Disabling wpa made no difference. I need to get an interface first.04:44
cantspeakslowl1any takers on troubleshoooting my GRUB woes?04:44
ssstormymajd_, tar zxvf your source package04:44
Lockeczr: more than likely it's the same for other distros... any idea's?04:44
czrLocke, heh. then this is the wrong channel. try asking on the DSL mailing lists?04:44
_jasoncantspeakslowl1, just ask, and if someone knows they will try04:44
ssstormycd your_source_package_folder04:44
ajmitchLocke: it's not the same04:44
ssstormy./configure --help04:44
needhelpwhats the apt get command to uninstall?04:44
czrLocke, start linux with boot param 204:44
tolstoyRick_Knight: try install network-manager?04:44
czrLocke, or 3, depending on distro04:44
_jasonneedhelp, apt-get remove04:44
ssstormyneedhelp, apt-get remove04:44
needhelpthanx04:44
cantspeakslowl1I'm trying to set up grub on a dual boot install. fdisk -l shows ubuntu on /dev/hde1 and ntfs on /dev/hdf1. I'm following the instrctions at http://ubuntuguide.org/#addwindowsentrygrubmenu with root  (hd1,0) but it isn't working...04:44
majd_ssstormy, that did something....i don't know what though04:44
Lockeczr: lol, first how do i do that, and second i don't think anybody even works on DSL anymore04:44
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majd_it just showed me a bunch of files in the tar.gz04:45
MalachiLocke: I'm sure they do...04:45
_jason!ubuntuguide04:45
ubotufrom memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead04:45
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LockeMalachi: lol, the last version i saw in the distro library had been updated in 200304:45
czrLocke, modify the kernel boot param line. I don't know how dsl does that so can't really help you there. might check /boot/grub/menu.lst and read how to config grub. or with lilo /etc/lilo.conf & lilo. with syslinux it's different, etc04:45
majd_how would i launch it? (it doesn't say in INSTALL file)04:45
MalachiLocke: =) Do people still use Windows ME?04:45
ssstormymajd_, here's how to build it04:46
LockeMalachi: no04:46
MalachiLocke: Sadly, yes.04:46
ssstormy./configure04:46
ssstormymake04:46
ssstormymake install04:46
LockeMalachi: not in my world...04:46
czrMalachi, a lot of organisations are still using NT404:46
BxLLocke, I use windows 200004:46
_jasonmajd_, don't use make install, use checkinstall instead04:46
MalachiLocke: Invite me there, pleae.04:46
LockeMalachi: i never used ME... i used 98, XP and then Linux04:46
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_jasonubotu, tell majd_ about checkinstall04:46
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aliesya82hi kent04:46
_jasonssstormy, checkinstall is better than make install04:46
MalachiLocke: ME users should kill themselves. Ease the burdon on society04:46
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KyralCheckinstall EVIL04:46
ssstormy_jason, you're right, I forgot04:46
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LockeMalachi: and never went back, ME wasn't even a real version in itself, it was just Windows 98 Third Edition04:47
MalachiLocke: But anyway, I didn't really like DSL.04:47
_jasonKyral, LIES04:47
LockeMalachi: i have a 133 MHz CPU computer i want to use as a file server and that is it04:47
MalachiLocke: (1) Because of the name, (2) Too small for me.04:47
Kyral_jason: TRUE!04:47
bjronquick question, how do I tell what options were used when I package was compiled?04:47
ITSa341<has dsl at the office, only choice is dsl or dial-up04:47
[method] has anyone here run into an issue where ubuntu is unable to connect to websites that start with a hyphen?04:48
majd__jason, i replace sudo with the name of the .tar.gz file right?04:48
needhelpcan anyone help me with gdesklets??04:48
LockeMalachi: trust me, i would MUCH rather Ubuntu, and once i get a better computer i'll turn this current PC i'm using into a server and keep Ubuntu Server on it, but until then, my little 133 is going to have to do04:48
ssstormybtw, I try to execute autogen.sh in the cvs gtkpod and libgpod packages (need CVS) and it tells me Checking for required M4 macros...04:48
ssstormy  libtool.m4 not found04:48
ssstormy  glib-gettext.m4 not found04:48
ssstormy  intltool.m4 not found04:48
ssstormy  pkg.m4 not found04:48
_jasonmajd_, that doesn't sound right, what command are you referring to exactly04:48
ssstormyChecking for forbidden M4 macros...04:48
ssstormy***Error***: some autoconf macros required to build libgpod04:48
tolstoycan anyone help me with launchpad?  think i misfiled a bug04:48
ssstormy  were not found in your aclocal path, or some forbidden04:48
majd_sudo apt-get install checkinstall04:48
ssstormy  macros were found.  Perhaps you need to adjust your04:48
ssstormy  ACLOCAL_FLAGS?04:48
Rick_Knighttolstoy: I've installed network-manager, but there is no menu entry. What command starts it04:48
_jasonubotu, tell ssstormy about pastebin04:48
ssstormyI have installed those packages, so why can autogen not find them?04:48
MalachiWill DSL or any other linux distro run on a 4gig HD, 32meg PC?04:48
tolstoyRick_Knight: nm-applet04:48
_jasonmajd_, btw, is there a reason you aren't using the packaged gtkpod?04:49
tolstoyRick_Knight: I'm assuming that gnome and kde share the notification thing, right?  hopefully?04:49
MalachiOops, Locke, that was addressed to you...04:49
_jasonmajd_, yes that will install 'checkinstall' for you04:49
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LockeMalachi: the answer to this question sadly is no, not on THIS one, i've tried every method imaginable and yet i still can't get it Ubuntu Server to install04:50
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majd_jason: where is the packaged gtkpod?04:50
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_jason!info gtkpod04:50
ubotugtkpod: (manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod), section universe/sound, is extra. Version: 0.94.0-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 486 kB, Installed size: 1992 kB04:50
majd_they only had the .tar.gz version on their sourceforge site04:50
Rick_Knighttolstoy: I have the gnome libs installed, so a lot of gnome apps work.04:50
_jasonubotu, tell majd_ about repos04:50
MalachiLocke: It's a shame....if you ever get it to work, please let me know....04:50
MalachiLocke: I have a lot of old PCs just lying around...04:50
needhelpcan anyone help me with gdesklets??04:51
LockeMalachi: i have 486s lying around here, the PC i'm using now is 450 AMD04:51
MalachiHrm...04:51
Lockeneedhelp: ask your question04:51
shad0w1eczr, changing to 16-bit color worked!!!04:51
_jasonmajd_, forget about compiling things in ubuntu.  It's very rare you will have to.04:51
majd__jason, thank god!04:51
Malachineedhelp: Maybe....04:51
tolstoyRick_Knight: but if you don't have something for the applet to dock with....04:51
LockeMalachi: "supposedly" i'm supposed to get a 600 MHz pc tomorrow from someone04:51
cantspeakslowl1help.ubuntu.com refers to System->Administration->Boot which is NOT on my menu (http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2521330) -- any ideas where I can find the boot control panel, or the comman to bring it up ?04:51
cdubyahey Locke, you install dsl?04:51
MalachiLocke: Good luck.04:51
Lockecdubya: trying to now... i just asked a question a few minutes ago, hehe04:52
czrshad0w1e, good :-)04:52
needhelpevery time I try to add a deskelet for xmms it gives me an error, I do not know how to fix this..In one of the error I get /home/luis/.gdesklets/Displays/OSXCornerXMMS-0.1.2/osxcornerxmms-bottomright.display04:52
needhelp>   1 xmms = get_control('IKXmms2:701uz5p7uot652wbszeprbeev-2')04:52
cdubyaheh04:52
_jasonmajd_, just enable universe like that link ubotu sent you explains and you should be able to use synaptic or apt-get, whichever you prefer, to install gtkpod.  Let me know if you have any problems.04:52
czrshad0w1e, what is your native desktop color depth (in windows)?04:52
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cdubyaLocke, havin fun?04:52
majd__jason, thanks sooo much i really apreciate it04:52
Lockecdubya: oh yeah...04:52
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cdubyaheh, yeah. :)04:52
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cdubyaLocke, did they ever switch to using apache?04:53
Malachineedhelp: What desklet are you using?04:53
ssstormybtw, I try to execute autogen.sh in the cvs gtkpod and libgpod packages (need CVS) and it tells me the following: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d698304:53
abarbacciahey is there any way to script partitioning of disks?04:53
czrhmm. I wonder whether there is a program that reads in an audio c-tape, then automatically corrects any pitch skew that affected the recording ;-)04:53
abarbacciai want to delete the partition on the disk and make a new one04:53
McJerryif i only have a root part and a swap part and am booted into root part how can i use gparted to resize the root part?04:53
Rick_Knighttolstoy: network-manager does not work on KDE. I get a lot of disk activity, but nothing else.04:53
tolstoyRick_Knight: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.10/+bug/669904:53
Lockecdubya: no idea, it takes 16 minutes to get from startup to GUI, so i haven't fiddled with it much yet as you could imagine04:53
needhelpIm using 0.35.204:54
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cdubyaLocke, no, they're still using Monkey web server.....04:54
tolstoyRick_Knight: I have no idea if bugs on launchpad get to the devs, but there it is, anyway.04:54
varsendagger!ff1.504:54
No1VikingWhat app can I install so I can create gif animations?04:54
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion04:54
Lockecdubya: lol04:54
Malachineedhelp: No, what widget?04:54
tolstoyRick_Knight: re: network-manager.  maybe you can start gnome-panel?04:54
varsendaggerNo1Viking, i think  you can do that with gimp04:55
[method] could anyone help me out, I have a windows box that can load a website, but my ubuntu is unable to connect to it, ubuntu can't even ping it.04:55
majd__jason, wow...that easy huh?04:55
_jasonmajd_, yep04:55
No1Vikingvarsendagger, ok, thanks04:55
tolstoy[method] : what's the web site?04:55
Malachineedhelp: Starterbar?04:55
needhelpOSXCornerXMMS04:55
czrdoes gimp even have gif export anymore?04:55
czrgif is evil04:55
[method] tolstoy: http://-method-.deviantart.com04:55
needhelpand all that I download to try to use with XMMS04:55
Lockecdubya: the help IRC channel is slighly helping, but i'm serious, if one more person calls me a lamer i swear my IQ is going to drop04:55
No1Vikingczr, just do save as....04:55
MadpilotNo1Viking: there's an animation plugin for the GIMP - search Synaptic for it, I can't remember what it's called04:55
[method] the only way I can get ubuntu to connect to it is by using a proxy04:56
czrnolviking, I don't use gifs ever :-)04:56
No1VikingMadpilot, ok04:56
czrjust was suprised to learn that gimp has gif support, gif has been pretty much removed from all open source software04:56
tolstoy[method] : I get something if I remove the -'s from around the word "method".04:56
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cdubyaLocke, lol.....04:56
cdubyaheh04:56
varsendaggerNo1Viking, check out GUG for info ( gimp user group)04:57
cdubyaLocke, what's the problem?04:57
[method] yeah, but that some guy named method, my username on the site is -method-04:57
varsendaggerGUG.org04:57
MadpilotNo1Viking: gimp-gap04:57
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czr[method] , - is an illegal character to start DNS labels04:57
[method] all my windows boxes can do it04:57
tolstoyRick_Knight: the bug is actually at: https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/699904:57
czr[method] , windowses don't adhere to standards04:57
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Lockecdubya: just formatting the damn hard drive at the moment04:57
[method] ah04:57
tolstoyRick_Knight: oh, wait, not it isn't. Hm.04:57
needhelp??04:57
cdubyaLocke, heh04:57
No1VikingGot it Madpilot. Installed now!04:57
[method] is there any way to get around that>04:57
No1VikingThanks guys!04:58
No1Viking:)04:58
veronicai'm need help with setting up usb wireless adapter?04:58
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czr[method] , use windows? if you don't like to play with the standards, use something that doesn't respect them :-)04:58
MadpilotNo1Viking: np04:58
Malachineedhelp: I'm sorry, it's not like me to just leave a person hanging after already getting started with their question,04:58
Malachibut I must go.04:58
Rick_Knighttolstoy: I found the bug report. I'll second it if possible, but I think I'm done for tonight. I'll be around here tomorrow.04:58
czr[method] , seriously, try nslookup -method-.blah.blah on command line, what does it give?04:58
Malachineedhelp: Problems have aroused.04:58
tolstoyRick_Knight: er. http://launchpad.net/maline/bugs/6699.04:58
shadowplayare ubuntu binaries 386 compatible?  Or are they 586 & up?04:58
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Malachineedhelp: I'm sorry...maybe Googling the error will help.04:59
MalachiI must go.04:59
tolstoyRick_Knight: okay.  I figure if there's two of us, it means we're not crazy.04:59
[method] well, the only way I can find, if I use a proxy I can get to the site, so I will continue to do that04:59
Rick_Knighttolstoy: I hope you're right! Bye for now.04:59
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czr[method] , the proxy is running windows, right? :-)04:59
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[method] no idea, it's just some random proxy05:00
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czr[method] , it's a dns resolution problem, standard dns resolvers will probably refuse to even attempt at finding anything starting with '-'05:00
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czr[method] , must be something non-unix based then. just continue using proxy then, but know that standards based stuff won't be able to access your 'site'05:00
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veronicayeah thanks guys!05:01
[method] well, it's deviantart, maybe I can get them to change my name, seeing that it doesn't fit a standard05:01
[method] thanks for your input..05:01
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czrmethod, that would be recommendable I guess. just remove the special characters from the front and that's enough :-)05:02
matrixi need help?05:02
czrit's ok to have - in the name, just not start a name with it05:02
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matrixmy systems used all memory05:02
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qwehmm, my pentium-m starts up throttled down to 800mhz on startup and I can't seem to raise it back up to its full speed05:02
cdubyaLocke, what were you going to use dsl for again?05:02
qweanyone have any ideas?05:02
czrqwe, what is the max speed of it? (rated)?05:03
qweczr: 1.73ghz05:03
czrqwe, hmmh. someone else had exact same problem05:03
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czrqwe, is it a new laptop?05:03
qweczr: relatively. since october05:03
czr(not related to ubuntu, this problem is)05:03
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czrqwe, has it run at max speed in any linux then?05:03
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qweyes, when I had gentoo05:03
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czrqwe, ah. hmmh. which kernel version did you run on gentoo?05:04
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qweI just installed ubuntu since I lost my root partition and I don't have time to reinstall05:04
qwe2.6.1405:04
czrand what is the kernel version you have now?05:04
qwe.12 I think05:04
czrthe speedstep tables are updated in each kernel05:04
czrthat might be it then05:04
qweyeah hmm05:04
ToRTuReD_Xman this sucks05:04
qwemaybe I'll do a stage 305:04
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ToRTuReD_Xanyone wanna tell me if there are new repositories and what they are?05:04
czrqwe, or just build a new kernel in ubuntu for ubuntu05:04
ToRTuReD_Xbeen a LONG time since i used ubuntu05:05
ToRTuReD_X;/05:05
czrqwe, probably will go away with new kernel. the other person was running p-m rated over 2GHz with 2.6.15 and that didn't have the speedstep info yet, so stuck at 800MHz05:05
qweczr: bleh. if I have learn how to do that I might as well go back to a system I already know like the back of my hand ;)05:05
qweahhh05:05
czrqwe, building kernel for ubuntu is exactly the same as for gentoo05:05
czrsince building the kernel is always the same, go figure ;-)05:05
qweoh, you don't do any dpkg nonsense?05:06
czrdepends on how you do it obviously05:06
czryou don't have to if you don't want to05:06
qwemeh05:06
czrdownload source, extract, config, build, install05:06
qweyup05:06
qwedone that so many times I've lost count05:06
majd_weird, i just installed curl (ftp) and it said it worked fine, but i can't find it05:06
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matrixwhy ubuntu used full memory?05:06
czrqwe, you might also look for a precompiled kernel package for ubuntu from somewhere that has newer kernel than .1205:06
czrqwe, but I don't know where you should even start, I normally build my own if the stock kernel isn't satisfactory. you lose the graphical bootsplash, but meh :-)05:07
_jasonI just noticed that totem-xine isn't playing certain sound for me anymore.  mplayer will play files fine.  This just started.  I've tried .wmv and a random avi I downloaded from the web and both don't have sound.  mp3's however do play fine with sound.  Any ideas?05:07
shadowplayfyi answered my own Q.  Wiki says ubuntu runs on 38605:07
czrshadowplay, good to know05:07
qweczr: yeah, well installing ubuntu was just a quick fix anyway. I might just go back and reinstall gentoo this weekend05:07
czrqwe, ah ok, have fun then :-)05:07
ssstormydoes anyone know where crossover office puts the stupid files in My Documents?  Like, where they are stored on the host linux system?05:08
czrdapper will have a .15 kernel qwe05:08
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czrdapper, normally distros select a kernel for a release and then stick with it. kernel is not upgraded during a release (except for critical security fixes)05:08
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qweczr: meh. like I said, I wasn't intending to stick with ubuntu forever anyway, I just wanted to get something up quick05:08
qwecan't beat a 30-min install05:08
czrbut ubuntu is nice :-)05:08
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czractually you can, but not's let get into there :-)05:09
erratichey how do I make this go away W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90705:09
shadowplayczr: sort of.  Gentoo ppl complain that makes it slow.  Why maybe technically true, but I haven't noticed the difference on a 1g p3.05:09
erraticW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems05:09
erraticroot@Alice:/etc/apt#05:09
czrshadowplay, gentoo people complain about everything that isn't gentoo :-)05:09
tolstoy_jason: the only time i had odd problems was installing pre-breezy over hoary and having polypaudio still trying to run the show.05:09
erratichow do I make that go away??05:09
qweczr: ubuntu is nice, but I'm enough of a power user that anything that isn't gentoo isn't good eough ;)05:09
erraticnot really05:09
erraticit won't let me use my french package repository05:09
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_jasontolstoy, hrmm I'm using alsa.  I just don't see how it started all of a sudden.  Maybe it was the last batch of updates.05:10
erraticbecause the french can't have encryption05:10
czrqwe, how many years have you used linux daily?05:10
erraticso no it's really not that nice05:10
qweczr: 3+ years now I think05:10
s_spiff{AWAY}hey..is there a way i can get totem movie player to play .asf files?05:10
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erraticyou can't because linux is gay05:10
shadowplayczr: lol. no, it was just suprising to hear though.  *personally* they're my two fav. distros.05:10
_jasons_spiff{AWAY}, I think they'll play if you install w32codecs05:10
erraticand nobdy here will help05:10
erraticseriously05:10
_jasons_spiff{AWAY}, and totem-xine05:10
erraticscrew it05:10
erraticnope05:10
czrqwe, ah ok :-). after 10 years of linux I like it simple ;-)05:10
erraticno codecs for you05:10
qweczr: heheh05:11
s_spiff{AWAY}ok..05:11
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s_spiff{AWAY} will check it out05:11
shadowplayyup, linux interoperates well with linux.  it's gay. :-)05:11
s_spiff{AWAY}erratic, no codecs for whom?05:11
erraticyour mom05:11
qweczr: to each his own :) so far I've found ubuntu to be pretty nice05:11
erraticit sucks05:11
_jasonerratic, no one is going to help you with that attitude...05:11
erraticoh yeah?05:11
erraticwell nobody's ever gonna do your mom05:11
qweerratic: yeah05:11
BxLbleh05:11
s_spiff{AWAY}_jason, any chances that I'll find it on the Synaptic?05:11
erraticbecause she's so fat05:11
BxL!ops05:11
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czrqwe, indeed. don't worry, you will learn why gentoo is not good for everything in time :-). ubuntu is suprisingly nice, and getting nice by each release.05:11
erraticso shut the the fuck up troll go back under your bridge05:12
_jasonubotu, tell s_spiff{AWAY} about w32codecs05:12
ITSa341Bye erratic05:12
erraticbye your mom05:12
s_spiff{AWAY}thanks _jason05:12
_jasons_spiff{AWAY}, w32codecs at the link ubotu sent you.  totem-xine is in synaptic05:12
czrnicer even :-), anyhow, the speed-issue should be fixed with a newer kernel, have fun05:12
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majd_how do you uninstall stuff?05:13
shadowplayqwe: gentoo and ubuntu have in common very good docs/forums. imho05:13
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qweczr: thanks :) I just can't live without use flags05:13
_jasonmajd_, just right click on the package in synaptic and select 'remove'05:13
erraticsorrie, I'm a little more than pissed that apt now checks for a repository signature *by default* and doesn't really give any indication how to turn it off05:13
czrqwe, would just an us flag do? I could mail you one :-)05:13
qweshadowplay: haven't had much experience with the ubuntu forums but that's what I've heard05:13
erraticnor have I found a way using google which is rediculous05:13
shadowplayqwe: --omg-optimize!05:13
qweczr: heheheh05:13
majd__jason, thanks05:13
qweshadowplay: I'm not an idiot ;)05:14
_jasonmajd_, actually it may be 'uninstall', but you'll see something there that obviously uninstalls05:14
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majd_yeah05:14
cdubyassstormy, you ever get an answer to your question?05:14
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majd_what ftp client do you recomment?05:14
majd_*recommend?05:14
qweftp05:14
erraticncftp05:14
qwe:P05:14
BxLmajd_, gftp05:14
czrseriously though, I rarely recommend gentoo for newbies, but I think it might be (just might) be a better learning vessel than LFS nowadays for people in a hurry05:14
shadowplayqwe: no, but it's a funny page: funroll-loops.org  :-)05:14
WorstPhobiaIs there a way to use the Windows Key in Ubuntu?05:14
czrrarely = newer that is :-)05:14
qweshadowplay: I've seen it ;)05:14
qweczr: I've learned more about linux through gentoo than I have through any other distribution05:15
majd_bxl, do i want common or gtk?05:15
josephhey, does anyone have a lot of experience with getting hardware to work in linux???05:15
qwebesides, portage rocks05:15
erratic ubuntu sux05:15
majd_what's the difference?05:15
czrqwe, that was my point. I used to recommend LFS when gentoo was crap and before it existed05:15
WorstPhobiaNever mind, I'll ask tomorrow.05:15
qwejoseph: wow, could you be more vague?05:15
josephi can't get my laptop to come out of standby05:15
czrqwe, for people who wanted to get their hands dirty that is05:15
ssstormycdubya, nope, none of them so far05:15
qwejoseph: hold the power button until it turns off05:15
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qweczr: I did LFS back in the day. took forever, wasn't really worth it05:16
cdubyassstormy, .wine/drive_c/Program_Files ...... is that what you were wanting?05:16
erraticubuntu sux05:16
qwebooted up damn fast though05:16
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czrjoseph, you might also need to remove the battery out of the laptop (and remove power cord) for some laptops with buggy bioses05:16
BxLerratic, why?05:16
tolstoysethk: FINALLY: I got wireless working by install ipw2200 driver 0.19 (+ 2.2 firmware)05:16
cdubyassstormy, not sure about crossover office.....if that's how it handles it for sure.....05:16
josephno, i need it to standby, not turn off05:16
qweare there no ops in here?05:16
shadowplayBxL: what's erratic?05:16
erraticscrool up05:16
sethktolstoy, which driver did you replace, and which firmware?05:16
czrqwe, well, it's more pedagogic than useful :-) gentoo is somewhere in between of useful and pedagogic05:16
erraticscroll*05:16
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qweczr: personally, I use it for the level of control it offers05:17
tolstoysethk: firmware was 2.3.  not sure which driver.  can I "strings *.ko" to find out?05:17
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czrqwe, you don't mind rebuilding stuff all the time?05:17
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sethktolstoy, not important, I was just curious.05:17
shadowplayczr: it makes running games easier (gentoo that is)05:17
josephbut im lookin for someone who knows enough about linux to help me diagnose it, non of the forums are helpin me05:17
czrshadowplay, xbox makes running games easier I think ;-)05:17
batmanhey does anyone know where i can find a guide to setting up the partitions for a dual boot between windows and ubuntu?05:17
czror ps2, which ever really.05:18
qweczr: nah, the only thing that takes annoyingly long are kde packages05:18
erraticReading package lists... Done05:18
erraticW: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90705:18
czrqwe, you don't upgrade libc too often then? ;-)05:18
qweshadowplay: yeah that too... enemy territory was a breeze to install05:18
erraticW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems05:18
erraticneed help...05:18
josephbatman, gentoo's is the one that will teach you the best05:18
erraticroot@Alice:/etc/apt#05:18
qweczr: nope05:18
tolstoysethk: modinfo the-file-right-there.ko worked.  It's 1.0.6.  They're up to 1.0.10 now.05:18
czrqwe, why would you run buggy critical libraries then?05:18
erraticReading package lists... Done05:18
erraticW: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90705:18
qweczr: I wouldn't call glibc buggy ;)05:18
erraticW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems05:18
czrqwe, you wouldn't? hehe. I certainly would. so much code, so little time :-)05:19
ajmitcherratic: stop pasting that05:19
erraticI can't05:19
erraticuntil someone helps me05:19
erraticI'm sorry05:19
ajmitchyes you can05:19
czrqwe, anyhow, I think we agree that we agree, have fun in stage 3 :-)05:19
erraticIgnoring you05:19
qweczr: will do :)05:19
czrI need to finish editing audio for a while now05:19
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tolstoysethk: the price of this old driver: no pretty blue light for the wirless.05:19
shadowplayczr: actually, I upgraded my ubuntu kernel via synaptic, and nvidia broke.  I even tried installing from nvidia's site.  I'm going to try recompiling nvidia again, but that doesn't buy me anything over gentoo ;-)05:19
qweajmitch: he needs a good kicking05:19
tolstoyRickKnight: It works!!!!!05:19
Madpilotajmitch: just kick erratic please, he's been trolling for a few minutes now...05:20
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erraticyour mom needs a good kicking05:20
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Dr_Willisinstall the key, or install it and tell it to ignroe the warning,05:20
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sethktolstoy, I guess that's worth it if it actually works.  :)05:20
josephhmm, so no one here knows how to get hardware working?? (specifically power management stuff so my standby stops locking the computer)05:20
shadowplayczr: i'm *not* trolling.  it's a real problem i'm having.05:20
qweah, he kicked himself05:20
Dr_Willis:)05:20
czrshadowplay, I didn't think you were trolling :-)05:20
ajmitchtolstoy: the led can be turned on05:20
RickKnighttolstoy: What works!05:20
czrshadowplay, can't help with nvidia though, I don't touch closed binary crap05:20
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shadowplayczr: nod.05:20
tolstoyRickKnight: driver 0.1905:20
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Dr_Willisshadowplay,  i think when you install the kernel. you often have to reinstall the nvidia packages. (but i though it did that autpmaticially)05:21
qweczr: I wish I could afford not to, but I can't get any gl performance worth a toot without 'em05:21
VR^Hey all, how do i launch the firefox profile manager? (i installed ff 1.5 by following the guide, if that makes a difference)05:21
tolstoyajmitch: with this old driver?  I don't even see anything in /sys/bus/pci/etc/etc/etc.05:21
Dr_Willisshadowplay,  unless the kernel you installed is one that has issues with nvidia stuff.05:21
czrqwe, I feel your pain05:21
_jasonVR^, firefox -profilemanager05:21
RickKnighttolstoy:80211-1.1.9?05:21
czrqwe, I've been putting on one low level opengl project for couple of years now because of this reason05:21
ajmitchtolstoy: hm, maybe not with the old driver :) - I'm using the ipw2200 driver05:22
VR^_jason: thanks05:22
czrqwe, then again, I'm lucky enough to have confusingly large array of other projects to work on, so I'll survive05:22
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shadowplayDr_Willis: yeah, I did, several times.  but perhaps i did thinks in the wrong order.  I do notice ubuntu is using agpgart, and the (working) setup i have on gentoo isnt.05:22
tolstoyRickKnight: nope. the ipw2200-0.19.  It doesn't require the separate ieee80211 build.05:22
czrshadowplay, nvidia binary drivers program the agp GART directly, so the kernel agpgart module would get into the way05:23
picassoajmitch: do you have to recompile each time you upgrade kernel?05:23
Dr_Willisshadowplay,  there is an agpgart module I though. but really with ubuntu on my 4 systems and nvidia - its been totally trivial to get it working.05:23
tolstoyajmitch: yeah, the options ipw2200 led=1 trick is rejected with this driver.  I can live with it until the crack ubuntu staff sorts out the problem.05:23
Dr_Willisshadowplay,  i was amazed at how well it worked.05:23
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josephhmm, so no one here knows how to get hardware working?? (specifically power management stuff so my standby stops locking the computer)05:23
shadowplayDr_Willis: I switched between the nviida and the legacy nvidia too, along with doing a custom kernel... so i really need to start from scratch05:23
ajmitchtolstoy: aha, I'm using ipw2200 (in dapper) now with that option05:23
qweczr: heh. I wish the open-source driver scene moved along faster05:23
tolstoyRickKnight: the ipw2200 0.19 driver is what ships with hoary.05:24
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RickKnighttolstoy: where does the ipw2200-0.1.9 come from.05:24
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Dr_Willisjoseph,  theres often issues with apci and the power saving stuff in laptops. sadly.     best bet - disable/dont use the standby feature05:24
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tolstoyajmitch: for some reason, neither dapper nor breezy work with the HP nw824005:24
Guest64999have the drive Agere/Lucent v.92 for Ubuntu ?05:24
ajmitchtolstoy: what issues, and are they fileed as bugs?05:24
tolstoyRickKnight: under downloads at ipw2200.sf.net, choose the [more]  link.05:24
RickKnighttolstoy: I downloaded the 2.4 firmware and now I have an interface.05:24
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josephDr_Willis, so u don't think there's a way to get it to work under linux?05:24
petoixhi05:24
petoixi installed ubuntu05:25
petoixand my sound isnt working whY?05:25
Dr_Willisjoseph,  totally depends on the laptop and kernel.. google for your specific laptop and linux support. It may be some bug/issue thats being worked on.05:25
tolstoyajmitch: https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/669905:25
shadowplaypetoix: did you run alsamixer?05:25
RickKnighttolstoy: So 0.1.9 is old. It will build on 2.6?05:25
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josephDr_Willis, ya, i've done that, that's why im turning to IRC05:25
tolstoyajmitch: I have no confidence I filed it correctly over there, so if you know what to do....05:25
petoixnope how do i run it sir ?05:25
tolstoyRickKnight: yeap.05:25
Dr_Willisjoseph,  how new is the laptop? whats the cpu and stuff?05:26
andre_i need some help, pvt-me, plz05:26
andre_=p05:26
shadowplaypetoix: hang-on there's a howto i think05:26
RickKnighttolstoy: does it do encryption? WPA?05:26
tolstoyRickKnight: it'll complain about a dupe function, I think, but you just comment out the offending code.05:26
tolstoytolstoy: no idea.05:26
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tolstoyRickKnight: but if you can confirm, that's at least something.05:26
petoixk05:26
josephDr_Willis, it's rather old, hp ze4420, pentium celeron 2.0 ghz05:26
petoixi ran it now and a dialog poped up05:26
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r0verhello, what cdburner do you suggest for ubuntu ? (are there something like k3b for gnome ?)05:27
ajmitchtolstoy: ah, the problem being that malone hasn't been used for bugs filed in main - they're switching in the next week or so05:27
bamm`laptopgnomebaker05:27
petoixalso when i minimize a window it disappers and i have to use Alt + Tab to change05:27
petoixwhy?05:28
tolstoyRickKnight: the driver (0.19) seems to require ieee80211_crypt, so, praps.05:28
Dr_Willisjoseph,  could be it need some kernel options to get it working right..  but it may just be it has  issues no one has bothered to patch the kernel to work around.05:28
Guest64999Do have the drive Agere/Lucent v.92 for Ubuntu ?05:28
RickKnighttolstoy: Yes, it is something. I'll do it tomorrow. When I installed the 2.4 firmware and things worked as far as an interface, I thought I had it solved. Now I just can't get the IP address. Something to do tomorrow.05:28
tolstoyajmitch: should I refile back in bugzilla? timfrost said they were turning that off within hours.05:28
Madpilotr0ver: k3b works in Gnome - many of Gnome's native burners seem buggy, TBH...05:28
bimberir0ver: nautilus is good for data cds, there's serpentine for audio, otherwise gnomebaker or graveman05:28
josephDr_Willis, that's the thing, i need someone who's good enough to help me to find out if i can keep linux on here05:28
ajmitchtolstoy: yes, it's being switched very soon now05:28
tolstoyRickKnight: just letting you know so you can start bright and early, then, if it works, have an EXCELLENT rest of the day.05:28
tolstoyajmitch: should I refile in regular bugzilla?05:29
petoix.... anyone ?05:29
ajmitchtolstoy: the fact that you get an ip via dhcp indicates that the wireless is certainly working to a degree05:29
Dr_Willisjoseph,  i disable all that hibernate/suspend crud - even under windows :P i find its more hassle then its worth.05:29
RickKnighttolstoy: ieee80211_crypt is one of the extra kernel things kubuntu adds.05:29
ajmitchtolstoy: probably not worth it05:29
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r0verMadpilot: including gnomebaker ? (is it buggy too ?)05:29
Dr_Willisjoseph,  could check the ubuntu laptop forum.. or other disrto laptop forums even.05:29
tolstoyajmitch: I will if I get no changes or comments on that bug for a few days.05:29
petoix..05:29
zuverinkHow can i boot staight to init 3?05:29
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josephDr_Willis, ya, but it's rather important to me.  I've looked under tons of forums05:29
fluffyashesCan anyone help me with a broken gksu05:30
RickKnighttolstoy: Well, that really is it for me. Tomorrow get here too fast. night all.05:30
ajmitchtolstoy: you assume that every bug will be attended to in a few days05:30
Dr_Williszuverink,  edit the grub kernel= line and add '3' to the end. is one way05:30
tolstoyRickKnight: I removed ieee802* stuff and ipw2200* stuff before installing 0.19.  It works. ;)05:30
petoixwell ?05:30
petoixisnt this the help channel ?05:30
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tolstoyajmitch: yes!  and why not, be-damned!  Well, I'll revisit in a few days and see if I should prod or poke.05:31
fluffyashesCan someone help me with broken gksu i can't access any gui that requires root password.05:31
shadowplaypetoix: try applications --> sound & video --> mixer ?05:31
Madpilotr0ver: I haven't used it since upgrading to Breezy; the Hoary version burnt coasters for me, though05:31
petoixmixer ?05:31
zuverinkDr_Willis: I hit the kernel line, hit "e" added the 3, but it still boots graphical05:31
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Madpilotfluffyashes: use your own user password05:31
Madpilot!tell fluffyashes about root05:31
shadowplaypetoix: (sorry i don't have ubuntu running at the moment so i don't knew the exact name of the app)05:31
fluffyashesMadpilot: it doesn't give me a chance to enter my password it just says i've entered it wrong05:31
Dr_Williszuverink,  could just disable the GDM service..05:32
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petoixok05:32
shadowplaypetoix: volume control should do it too, if you open it05:32
r0verMadpilot, bimberi, bamm`laptop: thanks friends!, i'll do a couple of test and maybe i write the results on my blog. Thanks again.05:32
fluffyashesMadpilot: i have all access to thing through the gui with sudo and su05:32
fluffyashesMadpilot: excuse me i meant terminal not gui in that last message05:32
petoixk dont worry about it05:32
Madpilotfluffyashes: have you actually created a root account?05:32
zuverinkDr_Willis: I am trying to install an nvidia card(pci) it displays until the dm starts and then i loose display05:33
shadowplaypetoix: as for the disapearing windows, you can right click on a gnome-panel (the 'start' bar) and add an applet that shows all the running apps05:33
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blink56khi05:33
petoixsec05:33
zuverinkDr_Willis: so I cant get to gdm05:33
petoixwheres the gnome-panel05:34
petoix?05:34
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Madpilotpetoix: the bars at the top & bottom of your desktop05:34
petoixyes but there is no "start"05:34
czrlol. my system just booted itself :-)05:35
czrnot this one obviously, but still :-)05:35
Dr_Williszuverink,  try 'alt-ctrl-f1' to get to a console and then kill the gdm service?05:35
petoixalso when i minimize a window it disappers and i have to use Alt + Tab to change!05:35
majd_hey everyone, i installed gftp through the synaptic packet manager05:35
petoixffs.05:35
majd_but i can't figure out how to open it05:35
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blink56kI'm trying to remove ubuntu on this machine but by reinstalling windows all I get is a messed grub bootloader that won't boot anything.  What I did was make grub bootable from a CD but don't understand any of the commands on it.  Can anyone help? Thanks05:36
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fluffyashesmajd_ it should have a shortcut in Applications>INternet>gftp05:36
Madpilotpetoix: app windows should show up in your bottom panel05:36
majd_fluffyashes, it isn't there though, i looked05:36
shadowplaypetoix: right-click on either bar --> add. choose windowlist.05:36
petoixnope05:36
petoixwait05:37
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bamm`laptopblink put in the windows disk, let it go to part where says "hit r to repair" .. when you login you'll get a little dos prompt type thing.. type "fixmbr"05:37
_jasonI have no sound when I play a .wmv in totem-xine (I have tried a random avi as well and the problem persists).  However, mp3's will produce sound just fine.  The movies play fine in mplayer.  This just started happening, it was working fine before.  xine-ui behaves the same way.  Any ideas?05:37
Madpilotshadowplay: thanks, that was going to be my next suggestion! :P05:37
NigelSblink56k: windows should have overwritten the mbr, is the drive to which you've installed windows not the drive which you boot off?05:37
petoixahh thanx :D05:37
fluffyashesmajd_: try typing gFTP in a console05:37
bamm`laptopblink56k, read above comment  :] 05:37
fluffyashesmajd_: also go to Applications>SystemTools>Applications Menu Editor05:37
vskyemajd - try opening a terminal and type in "gftp"\\\\\\\\\05:37
blink56ki don't have a windows cd...windows came pre-installed on my machine...the way i reinstall it is by booting into the "recovery partition" my manufacturer put in05:37
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zuverinkDr_Willis: still no display, I alt+ctrl+F1 and nothing happens05:38
blink56kso when i boot after the windows installation, grub is still there and is basically screwed05:38
NigelSblink56k: how distasteful.  You can overwrite the mbr as bamm`laptop says by using the fdisk /mbr command which you can access from the recovery console05:38
Dr_Williszuverink,  interesting..05:38
fluffyashesor a simple format mbr05:38
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Dr_Williszuverink,  could use the rescue/recover/failsafe (whjatever its called) menu item to boot to a non-X system05:39
blink56ki'm not sure if i can really overwrite it from the recovery console... :(...is there any other way to do it05:39
shadowplaypetoix: did you get sound working?05:39
blink56kthe recovery environment is the one provided by ibm/lenovo05:39
s_spiff{AWAY}hey need help here..05:40
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fluffyashesCan someone help me with a gksu problem? i am unable to use any graphical program that requires root permission05:40
petoixnope05:40
bamm`laptopblink56k,  you could boot into live disk and add it to grub list for _easiest_ way to fix without windows disk (at least i think easiest)05:40
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s_spiff{AWAY} ?I had certain fav/history in Windows Opera Browser..where can i find it?05:40
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s_spiff{AWAY}i want to check out a link..i cant remeber it..and only way i can get is thru the history of the browser05:40
Madpilotfluffyashes: please ask before pm'ing people05:41
blink56kadd what to grub list?05:41
shadowplaypetoix: applications --> sound & video --> volume control05:41
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zuverinkDr_Willis: how do you reconfigure Xorg?05:41
petoixyea..05:41
Psi-JackHey guys.. I have an spca50x-based webcam, and when it's hooked into my USB 2.0 NEC-based PCI controller, it crashes my system trying to use it. But now that I hooked it up to my on-board USB 1.1 VIA-based controller, it's working absolutely perfectly (except crappy quality so far).   Anyone have any ideas as to why this is happening?05:41
petoixdoen that05:41
Dr_Williss_spiff{AWAY},  proberly in the c:/documents and settiings/username/application data dir05:41
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shadowplaypetoix: if there are red x's at the bottom of each slider, that means the channel is muted05:41
DACRepairhow do i mount  is it "Mount <location> <Dstination> <option> <Filesystem>"?05:41
fluffyashesMadpilot: i just figured it would be easier, sorry. I also didn't realize that it was any different from a name with a : after it.  I am sorta new to xchat05:42
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Dr_Williszuverink,  I forget the 'proper' way to do it. .. ive never had to mess with it that much. :P the ubuntu wiki has the details05:42
shadowplaypetoix: petoix click on it to enable it05:42
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blink56kcant i just reinstall windows from the reovery partition and when i restart, use grub from a cd (not an ubuntu live cd, but a grub alone live cd) so that i cant continue into the windows installation05:42
DACRepairzuverink, it should be ./xorg config05:43
blink56k^can05:43
NigelSblink56k: if you're getting to a grub console, why not just point it at where windows is05:43
blink56kthe grub live cd works, i just don't know any commands to put after the grub> prompt05:43
fluffyashesCan anyone help me with gksu, I cannot use any graphical program that requires root permission.05:43
blink56kthats what i dont know how to do05:43
shadowplay/etc/X11/xorg.conf05:43
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blink56kit's not one of those "select yours os" prompts05:43
petoixk05:43
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petoixehh there was no x's05:44
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shadowplaypetoix: ok, and the volume sliders are up right?05:45
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fluffyashesDoes no one want to help me? ive asked like 4 times05:45
petoixyes05:46
NigelSblink56k: press ? for options I think; then set the root drive to the place where windows is, so root (hdX,X) iirc and then "makeactive" and then b to boot05:46
_jasonfluffyashes, what happens when you try to use it?05:46
shadowplayfluffyashes: quick workaround... open a terminal, sudo <name_of_program> &05:46
Madpilotfluffyashes: I might have asked already - but have you enabled the root account?05:46
Mabus06I used source-o-matic to generate a sources.list, and did the keys thing that the page had said to do, but I still get errors when installing packages or apt-get update05:46
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blink56kso whent he grub prompt shows up i tipe root sda1? and then makeactive and then boot?05:46
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_jasonMabus06, can you pastebin the errors?05:46
blink56khdX, X (whats the second x for)05:47
KachingoHowdy05:47
bamm`laptopnumber of partition05:47
bamm`laptophd0 hd105:47
DrZeusHi all.  HOw can I do to submit a patch for the kernel of the next release? I mean, is it possible?05:47
fluffyashes_jason: It tells me that i have entered an incorrect password, it doesn't even give me a chance to enter one05:47
fluffyashesshadowplay: that does absolutely nothing besides give me a pid, no window pops up05:47
NigelSblink56k: no that wasn't what I said, the X and X stand for the drive number and the partition number, e.g. (hd0,0)05:47
czrDrZeus, what kind of patch?05:47
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_jasonfluffyashes, as Madpilot asked, did you enable the root account?05:47
shadowplaypetoix: open a terminal (i think it's applications --> accessories -> terminal; or console)05:47
fluffyashesMadpilot: i've been able to use sudo and su freely so i guess root is enabled05:47
Madpilotfluffyashes: you're currently logged in with your normal user account, though?05:48
blink56kroot hda1, 1 then makeactive then , boot...are those the three commands?05:48
DrZeusbecause there was a problem with the acpi of my laptop an needed a patch for the kernel, and a patch for the patch itself(how funny is that).  Breezy couldn't detect the battery state05:48
fluffyashesMadpilot: yes05:48
NigelSblink56k: I think you need to press the command "e" to entire the edit mode to begin with.05:48
petoixyes i know that.05:48
fluffyashes_jason: I JUST turned on the ability to login to the root account05:48
shadowplayfluffyashes: that's wierd.  try something like sudo ls;  then sudo xterm;05:48
czrDrZeus, you should check whether the patch has been incorporated into dapper first05:48
petoixshadowplay05:48
_jasonfluffyashes, that will break gui admin tools05:48
NigelSblink56k: no it needs to be exact, e.g. with the brackets.....05:48
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KachingoI was just wondering, I'm a complete n00b with linux. What directory should I install program folders? I downloaded firefox 1.5, but I can't find where it should go. Cheers05:48
Mabus06_jason,  http://pastebin.ca/3655405:48
czrDrZeus, since that's the next release, then probably discuss about it on #ubuntu-dev or mailing-lists05:48
NigelSblink56k: and you don't type boot, you just press b when you're done editing05:48
fluffyashes_jason: sudo works normally i've been using it all night05:49
DrZeusczr->I found the patch, and the patch for the patch, and I would like to contribute for it(instead of doing the recompile again in the dapper release)05:49
fluffyashes_jason: what will break those tools?05:49
_jasonfluffyashes, enabling the root account05:49
MadpilotKachingo: Linux doesn't install stuff like Windows does - what format is your file in?05:49
blink56ke, root [hda0, 1] , makeactive, press b?05:49
czrDrZeus, I understand what you did. I'm saying that the more you work before hand to check that the patch isn't already in dapper and tell why it's needed, the more are the chances of it being included05:49
fluffyashes_jason: I did it after I couldn't access it in the first place, so i should turn it off?05:49
shadowplaypetoix: ok do an ls.  choose a file that's a few kb in size (if you have a .wav file that's even better) and type ...05:49
DrZeusczr->I dont know that much about the kernel or that; so then its better to go to ubuntu-dev you say?05:49
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NigelSblink56k: you're tryiing to be funny now :) they have to be round brackets05:49
Madpilotfluffyashes: try turning the root login off, see if that fixes things05:50
czrDrZeus, where did you find the patch and which kernel version is it against?05:50
vskyeKachingo - just install it in you're /home/username dir05:50
NigelSblink56k: and no space iirc05:50
shadowplaypetoix: cat the_file > /dev/dsp05:50
fluffyashesMadpilot: i turned it on in an effort to fix things, it was off and it wasn't wokring05:50
NigelSblink56k: your best bet is to go to the grub page on the web now and have a look05:50
ggalo.... need help about identd server on ubuntu05:50
shadowplaypetoix: replacing 'the_file" with teh filename you choose.05:50
ggpls............05:50
blink56kahh I'm such a dumbarse...id leave linux on my machine happily but my school just doesnt support it on its network :(05:50
gganybody can help me ... pls........05:50
_jasonMabus06, have you tried using a different mirror?05:50
NigelSblink56k: why do you need your school to support it?05:50
fluffyashes_jason: i can't disable the root login it won't let me open the menu to change itb ack now05:50
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_jasonfluffyashes, what menu?05:51
KachingoMadpilot: it was an archive, but I extracted it, so now it's a folder. You know how windows has c:/program files where I put stuff. But I don't really know the layout of linux05:51
czrblink56k, how is it not possible to 'support linux on the network'?05:51
NigelSblink56k: linux is a far safer proposition to have on your network than a windows box which could get worms etc05:51
seveng'day people, i have installed ubuntu and love it...its like crack...now i'm trying to migrate completely from windows...the only thing i have left to configure is kismet and it has given me hell, would someone be so kind as to give me a hand with it?05:51
blink56kit lets it on the wired network but wont let it on the wireless network without the cisco vpn client05:51
petoixshadowplay what u meaN?05:51
DACRepairdoes anyone have any experiance getting a Ati RADION 7000 32mbddr running under breezy05:51
_jasonfluffyashes, just do 'sudo passwd -l root'05:51
fluffyashes_jason: System>Administration>Login Screen Setup it won't open now...that was how i had enabled logging into the root acount05:51
Mabus06_jason, ?05:51
czrblink56k, ah. you should probably try looking for a cisco vpn compatible client then for linux05:51
blink56kit's really stupid of them because the school servers themselves run on linux05:51
MadpilotKachingo: Linux sorts stuff according to what it does, so one app will have stuff all over the system - and you probably didn't need to extract the archive. What format was the archive in?05:52
DrZeusczr-> it has 2 methods of implementation: for kernels below 2.6.13 and for 2.6.1305:52
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shadowplaypetoix: we're trying to send a file directly to the sound device, to test if it's working.05:52
DrZeusczr-> this is the link: http://www.minet.uni-jena.de/~ferdy/l10.html05:52
blink56kyeah well first I'm going to try that grub thing and then I'll keep you posted05:52
czrblink56k, they're probably running cisco clients on some prupose that has nothing to do with windows vs linux05:52
fluffyashes_jason: that spits out [1] + Broken pipe sudo network-admin05:52
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NigelSblink56k: cisco do a linux vpn client though yes?05:52
Kachingomadpilot: .tar.gz05:52
czrdrzeus, the kernel going into dapper is .15, so you should check whether the patch has been accepted in mainline kernel first05:52
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ExdaixAnyone have an idea as to why I don't get any automounting USB devices?  I have a fresh install of 5.1005:53
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Exdaixdmesg displays it found the device05:53
czrDrZeus, start by reading the .14 changelog (kernel.org) and .15 kernel change log in order to see that, or grep for the changes that the patch includes05:53
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Exdaixbut no icon05:53
seveni have followed the steps on the ubuntu web page on how to "patch" the orinoco drivers and everything followed as planned until i got to the make and the make install05:53
czrDrZeus, the next release will use the .15 kernel anyway05:53
blink56kwell be back later guys...wish me luck!05:53
seveni got errors on the make and the make install05:53
shadowplaypetoix: so type  cat /usr/share/sounds/shutdown.wav | /dev/dsp05:54
petoixOk05:54
petoixkk05:54
_jasonMabus06, change the ca.archive to us.archive and try again05:54
fluffyashes_jason: the same thing happens when i type "sudo network-admin &" as happens when i try and open the network-admin from the menu... it tells me that my password is invalid and never gives me a chance to enter it05:54
shadowplaypetoix: you hear anything?  or get an error?05:54
petoixkorptix@korptix:~$  cat /usr/share/sounds/shutdown.wav | /dev/dsp05:54
petoix-bash: /dev/dsp: Permission denied05:54
petoixkorptix@korptix:~$05:54
petoixnope05:54
DrZeusczr-> it presumes that SHOULD work for 2.6.13 and beyond05:54
_jasonfluffyashes, sorry, I'm getting confused.  Did you get an error when you ran 'sudo passwd -l root'?05:55
Mabus06_jason, just manually go through my sources.list and replace the 'ca's with 'us'?05:55
DrZeusczr-> or at least MAY work.  I think that's enough for me05:55
czrDrZeus, the patch should work, or that the laptop will work without the patch with newer kernels?05:55
shadowplaypetoix: ok.  try this now:  ps ax | grep esd05:55
fluffyashes_jason: i did originally but i was su at the time so i exited su and tried it again and got the above result05:55
shadowplaypetoix: tell me what it says05:55
_jasonMabus06, if you want to.  Or you can use gedit.  Or you can make a new one at http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic05:55
jeff_do i need to install resolvconf to use dnsmasq and ipmasq to share an internet connection from one laptop to another (laptop with connection to internet is connected to internet by wireless card and is connected to laptop2 by ethernet cards)05:55
fluffyashes_jason: if enabled the root account login breaks things, then they're broken cause i enabled it and i can't disable it cause the login screen setup won't open05:55
sevenno takers on the kismet help?05:56
petoixkorptix@korptix:~$ ps ax | grep esd05:56
petoix 7810 ?        SL     0:01 /usr/bin/esd -nobeeps05:56
petoix 9808 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/bin/esd -nobeeps05:56
petoix 9810 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep esd05:56
Mr_aRtalo........05:56
fluffyashes_jason: BUT it is key here that this problem occured before i enabled the root login, I did that trying to fix the problem05:56
Mr_aRti need help about identd sever ... anyone can help me pls...................05:56
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Mr_aRti need help about identd sever ... anyone can help me pls...................05:56
MadpilotKachingo: you probably need to run the install from source stuff on that tar.gz, then05:56
_jasonfluffyashes, I'm fairly certain that you didn't enable root by checking that box.  You'd have to set a password somewhere, right?05:57
shadowplaypetoix: hmm, strange you have two of them running, but ok.05:57
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brxMr_aRt: just ask your question, people might answer.05:57
KachingoMadpilot: How would I go about doing that?05:57
shadowplaypetoix: try:  sudo  cat /usr/share/sounds/shutdown.wav | /dev/dsp05:57
_jasonfluffyashes, okay, let's step back.  gksudo used to work at some point?  does regular 'sudo' currently work?  (try 'sudo echo hi')05:57
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shadowplaypetoix: same as before with sudo in front05:57
DrZeusczr-> I did some research about that, and its a problem with the acpi of my laptop.  So I dont know(or at least dont know where to look at) how to check if that is fixed in the next release05:57
fluffyashes_jason: yes, gksudo used to work at some point, but at that point su and sudo didn't work05:58
petoixk05:58
Mr_aRti like to install identd server to my server , i have "apt-get install identd"05:58
Madpilot!tell Kachingo about compile05:58
_jasonfluffyashes, does sudo currently work?05:58
Mr_aRtthan how to configure it ???05:58
fluffyashes_jason: my friend the unix elitist messed with a few things nad now su and sudo work05:58
fluffyashes_jason: but i have no idea what he did05:58
czrdrzeud, read the changelogs of the new kernels (as I told you before)05:58
czrdrzeus even05:58
fluffyashes_jason: sudo and su work perfectly05:58
petoixroot@korptix:~#  sudo  cat /usr/share/sounds/shutdown.wav | /dev/dsp05:58
petoix-bash: /dev/dsp: Permission denied05:58
petoixroot@korptix:~#05:58
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Madpilotfluffyashes: I recommend killing your friend :P05:59
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czrdrzeus, what you should do probably is try to get the patch into kernel mainline if it's not there, but I assume that the person who did the patch would try that anyway, so I wouldn't see any point of you doing the same thing05:59
Kachingomadpilot: cheers05:59
czrDrZeus, however, if the patch is distasteful (or a hack), then it will never be accepted in kernel mainline05:59
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Mabus06that didn't help, _jason, I get the same errors05:59
TuxOtakuokay...i'm a total newbie to burning Video DVDs...anyone here care to help me with a problem?05:59
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MadpilotKachingo: np - I've only installed one thing from source, though, so you'll have to ask someone else for help if/when it doesn't work...05:59
czrDrZeus, then you should ask the people who control ubuntu kernel patching process whether they want to add a hack into the kernel or not, I'd imagine not06:00
fluffyashes_jason: his solution to this problem was the command "sudo xauth -f /home/ashes/.Xauthority extract /root/.Xauthority" but i was unsure of whether i wanted to do that or not so  i came here06:00
_jasonMabus06, can you pastebin the errors along with your /etc/apt/sources.list please?06:00
TuxOtakui have an mpeg-2 video...i need this on a video DVD06:00
narlesi need help with managing my ipod on ubuntu.... can anyone help me figure out why my ipod won't eject properly?06:00
shadowplaypetoix: ok, i'm not sure if the problem has to do with not having permission to the sound device, using the wrong driver, or having too many esd's running06:00
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shadowplaypetoix: last one's the easiest.   sudo killall esd06:00
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shadowplayif anyone knows how to get sound working easily, please jump in... i'm going through the whole truoubleshooting thing here06:01
fluffyashes_jason: and now my x is doing that thing where it won't let me select any other windows but the one i'm presently in so i'm gonna have to restart x06:01
DrZeusczr-> I see.  Thnx for the advice.  I will be in contact with the ubuntu kernel team then, for asking that06:01
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fluffyashesI have to restart x i will brb06:02
DrZeusczr-> because is a general-purpose patch.  It is not for ubuntu directly.  It was tested with gentoo, and checked that worked for other distros also06:02
Mabus06_jason, the errors are the same thing as before except with us instead of ca06:02
shadowplaypetoix: ?06:02
_jasonMabus06, can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list06:03
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czrDrZeus, a kernel patch is a kernel patch, but each distro is running somewhat different kernel, so it is a bit distro-related06:03
Mabus06_jason, http://pastebin.ca/3655506:03
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MiyomeiOkay, I'm having a load of problems.06:03
czrDrZeus, if you want I can try to find out whether the patch is in mainline, throw me the link again06:03
MiyomeiFirst off, I'm running from the LiveCD right now. I moved my ubuntu HDD plus others to a new PC, and now it wont boot. It keeps looking for root in /dev/hda1.06:04
petoixlol06:04
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petoixdont worry i got it06:04
petoixhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly06:04
shadowplaypetoix: cool!06:04
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narlesi need help with managing my ipod on ubuntu.... can anyone help me figure out why my ipod won't eject properly?06:05
Madpilot!sound06:05
ubotu[sound]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary06:05
shadowplaypetoix: sorry for the run-around... i was going through the different possibilities.06:05
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petoixlol thanx anwayz06:05
wadebhi all, is this a good IRC channel for ubuntu application developers?06:05
narlesyou need to BUY crossover softwear.. wtf..06:06
fluffyashes_jason: i just logged in as root to see if it was truely enabled and yes, it is and then i tried to access the programs that i couldn't acess as a regular user and they wouldn't even open06:06
MiyomeiAlong with not being able to boot into my Ubuntu install, I want to shrink the partition, but it wont even let me do it from the LiveCD.06:06
blink56kback...just a clarification...when i boot from the grub live cd, i dont get the usual choose your os splashscreen, i just get a grub prompt...when i type root (sda1,1) i get error 23 error parsing numbers...that or device string not recognized06:06
vskyeMiyomei - edit you're fstab to reflect the new /dev/hd??06:06
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_jasonfluffyashes, I wonder if you can disable root while logged in as root lol06:06
Miyomeivskye - How would I go agout doing that? I mean, the command?06:07
shadowplaypetoix: one quick thing to try is to go back to the volume control -> file ->change device;  and choose whichever one's not selected. but follow the howto first.06:07
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fluffyashes_jason: i'm back with my regular user now06:07
fluffyashes_jason: now those programs won't even open06:07
petoixk06:07
fluffyashes_jason: i mean the programs which require root privledges06:07
petoixbut sound still isnt working06:08
petoixdo i have to reboot ?06:08
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seven/orinoco/orinoco-0.15rc2/hermes.h:400: warning: passing arg 1 of `readw' makes pointer from integer without a cast06:08
seven  <-- this is where my errors start06:08
_jasonfluffyashes, 'gksudo network-admin' fails without any errors?  I don't really know what else to suggest other than disabling the root account06:08
sudharshdid i miis somethin06:08
vskyeMiyomei - try a emergency boot, (can't recall) and the location of you're boot hd, ala /dev/hda1 or whatever and then after boot edit /etc/fstab06:08
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TuxOtakuso, yeah....how do i use k3b to burn a video DVD from an mpeg06:09
fluffyashes_jason: AHHA!! it says something now...an error... gksudo: error while loading shared libraries: libgksuui1.0.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory06:09
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MiyomeiAlright. Also, how do I shrink the partition size of my Linux partiton?06:10
blink56kwhat do i type into a grub command prompt to boot a certain partition...note, im not talking about the choose your os splashscreen, but "grub> _  "06:10
vskyeMiyomei - sorry for the total lack of details, but I just converted from SuSE a month or so ago.06:10
_jasonMabus06, have you been messing with the gpg keys for the repos?06:10
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Miyomeivskye - Better than I am; this is only my third day of Linux from XP. ;p06:10
vskyeMiyomei - ;)06:10
czrblink56k, just type grub commands that you would have in the grub config for that partition06:10
sudharshMiyomei whats ur problem?06:10
Mabus06_jason, yes, as the source-o-matic page said to... maybe I did it wrong?06:11
czrblink56k, the commands that are in menu.lst are exactly the ones that you can type in06:11
MiyomeiRepost: "First off, I'm running from the LiveCD right now. I moved my ubuntu HDD plus others to a new PC, and now it wont boot. It keeps looking for root in /dev/hda1."06:11
blink56kwhere do i find menu. lst06:11
MiyomeiRepost: "Along with not being able to boot into my Ubuntu install, I want to shrink the partition, but it wont even let me do it from the LiveCD."06:11
sudharshblink56k check in /boot/grub06:11
czrblink56k, on any linux installation that boots with grub in /boot/grub/menu.lst06:11
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MiyomeiThose are the problems I'm having, but vskye helped me out a bit with the first.06:11
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sudharshk...06:12
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vskyeMiyomei - if you can, try putting the drives back in the same order as they were on the old computer.06:12
narlesi need help with managing my ipod on ubuntu.... can anyone help me figure out why my ipod won't eject properly?06:12
_jasonMabus06, back up your current sources and make a new vanilla one with just the essential stuff, main, updates etc..  Let's see if we can work on that06:12
Miyomeivskye - The case layout is physically different, so I'm not able to.06:12
blink56kok found it06:12
blink56kso to boot into any partition i type root (hd0,1) for example?06:13
czrblink56k, not really, root doesn't 'boot' :-)06:13
_jasonfluffyashes, try reinstalling the 'libgksuui1.0-0' package06:13
czrblink56k, root sets the default partition for grub from which it will look for files06:13
czrblink56k, like kernel and such, but yes, start with root (hd0,1), then continue with kernel and initrd (if you have one)06:13
MiyomeiAnd, it would let me alter the partition on my Linux HDD if 'extended' and 'linux-swap' weren't mounted, but I don't know how to unmount them.06:13
sudharshMiyomei try mount....06:14
czrblink56k, then as a last command, execute boot (if grub let's you proceed to that stage, it will display errors if any of your commands are really wrong/bad ones)06:14
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sudharshit'l tell u the current state o affairs06:14
fluffyashes_jason: it says that libgksuui1.0-1 is not installable06:14
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sudharshfluffyashes do a apt-get update06:14
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Mabus06_jason, my 'vanilla' sources.list : http://pastebin.ca/3655606:14
vskyeMiyomei - been there, done that! So, hda1 would be the first partition on (C:) and hda2 would be the second parition, etc.06:14
sudharshand 'a' means primary master06:15
blink56kwell the thing is, im planning to reinstall windows from a 2nd partition onto the 1st and it succeeds...except when i restart the machine to boot into the new windows environment, grub rears its ugly head to say it's broken...so what what i did was create a grub CD that i can use when grub breaks after the windows reinstallation06:15
MiyomeiRight. But now my Linux drive is hdb1.06:15
czrvskye, hda1 is the first partition on the ide drive that is in the primary IDE bus as master06:15
_jasonMabus06, I'm guessing that still gives you errors?  I'm gonna search since I haven't seen this before06:15
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MiyomeiBut it's still looking in hda1 for root.06:15
czrvskye, so it really depends on how you have cabled your drives in your new host06:15
Mabus06_jason, and the errors I get : http://pastebin.ca/3655706:15
sudharshu goota change fstab06:16
blink56kczr: kernel, initrd?06:16
MiyomeiBut I can't get into the system to change it.06:16
czrblink56k, yes. those normally come after a 'title' line06:16
MiyomeiUnless I mount hda1, I guess, but I don't know how.06:16
sudharshMiyomei use the live cd06:16
MiyomeiI'm on it right now. ;p06:16
needhelpis there any similar msn messenger for linux?06:16
sudharshneedhelp gaim06:16
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sudharshand kopete if usin kde06:16
czrgaim is quite ok, kopete for kde06:16
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needhelpcan I use webcam ?06:17
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DACRepairMiyomei, do this MOUNT /dev/hda1 /mnt -t06:17
DACRepairwait06:17
vskyeMiyomei - So why not just as swap the ide cables?  Just to get the thing to boot and change the reference from /dev/hda1 to /dev/hdb1?06:17
czrmost webcams don't support linux06:17
sudharshin the new gaim beta06:17
blink56kok, so what are the exact commands i would type to boot into a certain partition?06:17
sudharshczr thers somethin called spca5xx06:17
Lockehow can i save everything in a floppy as an image?06:17
_jasonMabus06, drop the ca, just make everything from ca.archive to archive.  The ca.archive times out for me too06:17
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needhelpwhat about amsn?06:17
sudharshdrivers for the cheap china ones06:17
DACRepairMiyomei, after -t do the filesystem fat32=vfat ntfs=ntfs06:17
fluffyashes_jason: it gives me errors detailed here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/698406:17
czrsudharsh, wouldn't know, I just know that most webcams are done on a very low budget (crap hardware) and no specs released. so it would depend on the webcam06:18
sudharshneedhelp: gaim supports all protocols06:18
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docta_vsudharsh: everything but skype at least06:18
sudharshczr: yup i googled for 2 weeks and found the drivers in a blg06:18
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hillbillyIs it possible to loginto gaim in invisible mode ?06:18
czrblg?06:18
sudharshdocta_v: oh yeah :)06:18
sudharshhillbilly yes06:18
hillbillyoh how ?06:19
Mabus06_jason,  ok06:19
hillbillyeverytime i login, i have to manually change my state to invisible !06:19
needhelphow come when i dod lususb my webcam is detected06:19
needhelpI wonder how..06:19
needhelpBecause in all my other distro i couldnt be able to detect it06:19
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nemikwhere does ubuntu put openssl libraries and such?06:19
Mabus06_jason, seems to work... :/06:20
czrnemik, like all other distros, /usr/lib/06:20
Mabus06What's wrong with the canadian mirror?06:20
sudharshneedhelp: what does lsusb say06:20
sudharshvimicro...?06:20
nemikthanks czr06:20
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czrnemik, that's the path for non-critical ones (not critical in booting). critical ones go under /lib. man hier for more info06:20
needhelpBus 001 Device 003: ID 043e:8585 LG Electronics USA, Inc. LPC-UC35 Webcam06:20
Lockehow can i save everything in a floppy as an image?06:20
czrlocke, yes06:20
_jasonfluffyashes, interesting since I can't find that package either...06:20
czrlocke, cp /dev/fd0 /tmp/image.blah06:20
czrlocke, restoring a floppy would be the same, but just reverse the arguments to cp06:21
fluffyasheswell i have a .deb package of it06:21
sudharshneedhelp: does lg provide the webcam drivers06:21
nemikczr, synaptic says i have it but it is not there, need it for doing a wpa_supplicant make06:21
czrlocke, assuming it is either 720k or 1440kB06:21
needhelpnoop06:21
Lockeczr: i just use dd06:21
needhelpthat I know06:21
sudharshelse do a 'apt-get install camorama'06:21
czrlocke, same effect, cp is shorter :-)06:21
czrnemik, hmmh. which ubuntu version?06:22
fluffyashes_jason: i have a .deb package of libgksuui from ubuntu... but when i try and install it get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/698506:22
nemikbreezy 5.10, basic desktop install06:22
MiyomeiDACRepair: That's not working.06:22
MiyomeiI'm using 'sudo  mount dev/hda1 /mnt -t filesystem fat32=vfat ntfs=ntfs06:22
Miyomei'06:22
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MiyomeiI should mention that I'm trying to mount my Ubuntu partition. ;p06:22
czrnemik, dpkg -L libssl0.9.7 | grep .so06:22
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sudharshMiyomei: use the live cd and change the fstab entries06:23
nemikthanks06:23
czrnemik, that is a list of all library files that come with package libssl0.9.7 which should contain the stuff06:23
_jasonfluffyashes, what does 'apt-cache policy libgksuui1.0-0' say06:23
Miyomeisudharsh: I can't get to fstab if it's on the partition that I can't mount.06:23
nemikczr, great! i'll give it a shot, i may need to apt-get the libopenssl then06:23
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czrlibssl0.9.7 :-)06:23
nemikahhh ok06:23
czrsynaptic should pull that for you though automatically06:23
sudharshMiyomei: so u r etering the commands from the live cd06:24
czrif the package dependencies were coded correctly in the package that you're installing06:24
MiyomeiYes, I'm on it right now.06:24
czrand if your system isn't borken because of some other reason (playing with unstable repositories, etc)06:24
fluffyashes_jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/698606:24
sudharshwhat other os do u hav06:24
nemikczr...yea....about that. i hope not06:24
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czrnemik, good luck :-)06:24
sudharshif u hav Winblo$...06:25
Miyomeisudharsh: I have a broken XP installation. Can't boot it.06:25
nemikzcr, thanks and thanks for the suggestions!06:25
sudharshd/l explore2fs06:25
_jasonfluffyashes, I don't know D:  try again in a few minutes, sorry06:25
czrnemik, wait a moment. did you say 'wpa_supplicant make'?06:25
wckdkl0wnhow do i update my repositories?06:25
sudharshMiyomei: gr8...:(06:25
sudharshwckdkl0wn apt-get update06:25
czrnemik, you're building some software with make, or what are you doing exactly?06:25
sudharshdont forget sudo06:25
nemikczr, yes, trying to do a make for it for the latest version06:25
fluffyashes_jason: gah ok thanks for trying06:25
czrnemik, ach. stupid me :-)06:25
czrnemik, libssl0.9.7 contains the binary library files only. not the ones that you need for 'development' (like when you're building software that will use the library)06:26
nemikahhh that's what i thought06:26
czrnemik, libssl-dev is the package that includes the rest stuff06:26
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wckdkl0wnok now how do i download kde?06:26
czrso install that, then do a configure blah blah and make06:26
nemikczr, excellent, off to synaptic for that!06:26
czrnemik, or just write 'sudo apt-get install libssl-dev' on the command line06:27
czrsince that's where you are running make anyway :-)06:27
nemikyea i know, that's what i meant! ;)06:27
_jasonI have no sound when I play a .wmv in totem-xine (I have tried a random avi as well and the problem persists).  However, mp3's will produce sound just fine.  The movies play fine in mplayer.  This just started happening, it was working fine before.  xine-ui behaves the same way.  Any ideas?06:27
czrsynaptic is just a fancy graphical front-end for apt :-)06:27
nemikoh i know06:27
czrgood good06:27
sudharsh_jason installed w32codecs?06:27
_jasonsudharsh, yep06:27
sudharshcheck the multmiedia syatems selectors06:28
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brad_teenbotcan anyone tell me how to download sound on here so i can have sound?06:28
_jasonsudharsh, I'm using alsa, but i've tried selecting oss and still get nothing.  Should I try something else?06:28
sudharshtry esd06:28
brad_teenbotwhat do i type in the terminal to get sound?06:29
sudharshdont forgt to revert to alsa if not workin06:29
_jasonsudharsh, I removed that nasty thing a long time ago :)06:29
sudharshesd?06:29
wckdkl0wnhow do i install kde?06:29
brad_teenbotwhat do i type in the terminal to get sound?06:29
_jasonsudharsh, I'll try it just to troubleshoot if I can't figure it out.  Yeah, esd06:29
regeyaapt-get install kde06:29
MiyomeiOn boot, can I change where Grub looks for a root folder?06:29
regeyaschnikes06:29
sudharshwckdkl0wn: sudo apt-get install kubunu-desktop06:29
brad_teenboti totally forgot its been awhile since ive ran linux06:29
wckdkl0wnty06:30
nemikczr, thanks so much, got it perfectly now!06:30
_jasonwckdkl0wn, remember to spell 'kubuntu' correctly though06:30
regeyabrad_teenbot,06:30
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sudharsh_jason: i had that prob yesterday06:30
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brad_teenbotyes06:30
sudharshrebooting worked06:30
brad_teenbotwhat do i type in the terminal to get sound?06:30
wckdkl0wnsudharsh, E: Couldn't find package kubunu-desktop06:30
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sudharshsry...thsat was kubuntu06:30
nemikczr, my damn university wireless still won't work, but at least i know its not an old version of wpa_config!06:30
brad_teenbotregeya, what do i type in the terminal to get sound?06:30
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regeya/usr/sbin/gimme_sound_okplsthx06:30
needhelpWhere can I download pyxmms?06:30
_jasonsudharsh, yep tried rebooting06:31
sudharshneedhelp synaptic...06:31
sudharshchek the preferences in xine...wait i'll go with u06:31
needhelpis pyxmms as pyxmms-remote?06:31
wckdkl0wnsudharsh, nvm got it06:31
borisattvasomeone here recommended me a package to install that keeps track of all my non repository installs and allows them to be removed via synaptics or whatever in the futur, like add/remove in windows. does anyone know the name of that application?06:31
_jasonsudharsh, wait... wtf it's working right now hold on06:32
sudharshok k06:32
needhelpis pyxmms as pyxmms-remote?06:32
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wckdkl0wnhow do i install the latest version of xchat?06:32
sudharshpyxmms....why would u wnat that...06:32
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sudharsh..update the repos06:32
sudharshand u r rokin06:33
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shadowplaybrad_teenbot:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or06:33
shadowplay               http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary06:33
needhelpsudharsh because a gadget from gdesklets needs this dependecy06:33
blink56kczr: good news...i successfully booted manually from the grub. prompt...if i wanted to boot from a windows partition would root (hd0,1) save deafult makeactive boot suffice?06:33
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needhelpand that may be the reason why is not working06:33
sudharshok...try pyxmms then06:33
regeyaI was bout to suggest that brad_teenbot go read some docs06:33
borisattvaanyone?06:33
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czrblink56k, not sure. better check the nice grub documentation on the web for that06:34
needhelpin my synaptic I only have pyxmms-remote :(06:34
brad_teenbotwhere do i read docs?06:34
needhelpshould i install that one?06:34
regeyaborisattva, you mean things installed from source?  checkinstall then.  if oyu mean .deb files then you need nothing06:34
sudharshneedhelp wait...i''ll check mine06:34
shadowplaybrad_teenbot: scroll up06:34
regeyawhee06:34
needhelpsure06:35
regeyathe frontal lobotomy patient linux users group pays #ubuntu a visit...06:35
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_jasonsudharsh, hrmm ok strange, here is what I have found: double click on a file to load totem will crash totem immediately.  However running totem from the command line works fine.  Still some files that had sound before aren't playing with sound.  But not every wmv is not working.06:35
sudharshneedhelp: lol...my sources are gone..06:35
wckdkl0wnhow do i install the latest version of xchat?06:35
needhelplloool06:35
borisattvareg: no it was some particular package, that once you install keeps track of all your non repository installed apps. so that you dont need to remember them and have them all listed in one area if you ever want to look forsomething to clen aup.. just like the add/remove programs in windows. i installed it before but since then had to completely reinstall the system and now cant remember the pacakge name06:35
sudharshdoes it crash xine 206:36
borisattvasomeone in this chat room sugested it06:36
dargaard_i have a quick question, how do i stop X from loading at start up? the runlevels are not what i expected here.06:36
needhelpthe thing is i cannot make a gadget work, and I was reading about this gadget and it uses pyxmms06:36
_jasonsudharsh, yep without an error message06:36
sudharshk then try ptxmms-remote06:36
regeyaborisattva, no idea.  guess I haven't had to worry about it too much.06:36
sudharshvow,,,06:36
_jasonsudharsh, but plays fine from command line...06:37
sudharshk now open up xine06:37
_jasonsudharsh, done06:37
sudharshu wouldnt that would u :)06:37
sevencan someone help me install and configure the wlan_ng in ubuntu? (learned i don't need to use the orinoco drivers for kismet)06:37
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brad_teenbotthanks guys for trying to help me but now i have to call a freind because i cannot figure it out06:37
sudharshbring up the settings06:37
seveni dl'd wlan_ng with apt-get but after i dl it and reboot my card quits working06:38
needhelpso sudharsh what can u suggest me to do?06:38
narlesi need help with managing my ipod on ubuntu.... can anyone help me figure out why my ipod won't eject properly?06:38
borisattvaoh well. thanks anyway06:38
shadowplaybrad_teenbot: what exactly are you trying to do?06:38
sudharshinstall pyxmms and try if works06:38
sudharshi m o a dialup so it takes time to d/l stuff06:38
sevenis this chan moserated?06:38
sevenmoderated?06:38
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_jasonseven, yes06:38
_jasonsudharsh, i'm in settings06:39
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sevenk, was wondering if anyone seen my posts06:39
rviraniwhat package do I need to develop on c++06:39
rviraniI installed g++ but my stuff doesnt run06:39
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needhelpnicee it worked06:39
needhelp:)06:39
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shadowplayrvirani: doesn't run or doesn't compile?06:40
sudharshenable 'master of the universe thingy'06:40
regeyaborisattva, as I say, with debs I don't worry a great deal, and with source package I go through the ./configure && make && checkinstall three-step.  I'd be interested to know 1.) what the app is and 2.) the advantages06:40
_jasonsudharsh, yep did that06:40
sudharshscroll to audio06:40
narlescan anyone tell me  how i can unmount my ipod properly?06:40
_jasonsudharsh, ok06:40
sudharshwhat hav u got in audio driver06:41
_jasonsudharsh, alsa06:41
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sudharshset it 2 auto06:41
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_jasonsudharsh, same thing06:42
sudharshno sound still??06:42
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sudharshi think u gotta restart to make the changes06:42
sudharshi mean xine06:42
_jasonsudharsh, yeah I did.  I mean it still crashes when I try to load from nautilus06:43
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sudharshk lets do dat again :D06:43
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sudharshr u tryin to open xine or totem?06:44
_jasonsudharsh, tried both06:44
_jasonsudharsh, I don't even use xine, I was trying to see if I could get to the root of the problem06:44
sudharshoh...........06:44
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nofear!dvd06:45
nofear!upgrade06:45
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade06:45
sudharshtry updating 2 a newrr version helps06:45
sudharshdoes totm work for other users06:46
_jasonsudharsh, okay, I'll try that if I can't think of something else.  I just don't comprehend how it suddenly stops working06:46
Madpilotsudharsh: totem? totem-xine works for me, totem-gstreamer doesn't06:46
sudharshtotem-gstreemer is a dummer06:47
sevenonce i apt-get wlan_ng is there something in a .conf file i have to do to enable it?06:47
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brad_teenbotyeah im just trying to get the sound to work on here06:47
brad_teenbotmy freind said that i had to do something with the terminal and it will download or something06:48
brad_teenbotany suggestions?06:49
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needhelphow can I check if my webcam works?06:49
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matthew_wHey - is ca.archive.ubuntu.com down?  Because.. I can't get anything from synaptic except 404 errors, and it happened for literally no reason.06:50
Psi-JackHey, I have two sound cards, and I want to configure devfs to make my SB PCI512 as /dev/dsp, and my on-board VIA to use /dev/dsp1, how would I do that?06:50
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_TomBdoes the Breezy LiveCD have support for bluetooth on it?06:50
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Madpilotmatthew_w: yeah, ca.archive seems to be down for me too06:51
matthew_wMadpil; ok good, thought I f*d something. :)06:51
matthew_wNite.06:51
needhelphow can I check if my webcam works?06:51
czr_TomB, bluez should be there, but gnome doesn't have bt support, so you'd have to rely on application support for bt06:51
_TomBI just wanted to know if the kernel modules were in it06:52
Psi-JackCan anyone help me with that?06:52
czrpsi-jack, ubuntu doesn't use devfs, second, you have to config alsa to do that (best way to reorder the cards)06:52
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_TomBI'm remastering the LiveCD, and didn't know if I may have removed support by mistakes or something06:52
brad_teenbotwhat command do i type in the terminal for the sound to start downloading?06:52
Psi-Jackczr: I'm looking at it. It's using devfs...06:52
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Psi-JackBut..06:53
arrinmurrneedhelp: with camorama, vlc, gnomemeeting, kopete, motion or something06:53
czrpsi-jack, which ubuntu would that be?06:53
brad_teenbotand also how do i log in on the terminal?06:53
needhelpthanx06:53
Psi-Jackczr: Kubuntu, actually. But, you suggest reordering in Alsa.. How do I do that then?06:53
needhelpDo you know how can I install a software that I download06:53
czrpsi-jack, grep devfs /proc/mounts give you what?06:53
needhelpits amsn_0.95.-3.ubuntu.deb06:53
Psi-Jackczr: Hmm, nothing..06:53
czrpsi-jack, you'd have to setup an asound.conf (I think, never needed to do that, I just tell each program which card to use)06:53
czrpsi-jack so it's not using devfs06:53
Psi-JackGotcha.06:54
czrpsi-jack, maybe you confuse devfs with udev06:54
Psi-JackI just saw it.. I thought itwas used. :)06:54
czrmost modern distros use udev since devfs is not supported anyway06:54
czrand kernel dropped devfs anyhow06:54
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Psi-Jackczr: Where's asound.conf? Or.. Better, how to make/configure it?06:54
gil-i need help with flash in firefox, i cant see the text06:55
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czrpsi-jack, you'd have to check the alsa site for that I think. as I said, I've never needed it for anything06:55
Psi-Jackczr: Wow.. Why did Linux drop devfs?06:55
arrinmurrneedhelp: but before you do, you should be aware that there's a big probability that when you try to access your webcam, your computer will lock up. if it happens, you should read thishttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7528406:55
czrpsi-jack, because it was a wrong solution to the problem. hotplug (kernel-space) and udev (user-space) is the right solution to the problem06:55
needhelpok06:55
needhelpso how could I install06:55
czrpsi-jack, and Linus didn't like devfs ;-)06:55
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Psi-JackHmmm.06:56
shadowplaybrad_teenbot: you mean how to log into a console?06:56
arrinmurrneedhelp: dpkg -i amsn_0.95.-3.ubuntu.deb06:56
Psi-JackThat's messed up. devfs was an excelent idea..06:56
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shadowplayoh well06:56
czrpsi-jack, idea maybe. implementation not.06:56
needhelpis dpkg the command to install?06:56
czrpsi-jack, the problem was that devfs forces a naming system for your devices. udev let's you (sys admin) to configure them06:56
Psi-Jackczr: Right. The implementation was bad.06:56
needhelpits nice to learn something new06:56
arrinmurrneedhelp: or more precisely: sudo dpkg -i amsn_0.95.-3.ubuntu.deb06:56
czrPsi-Jack, and udev allows you to do all kinds of other neat stuff as well (run scripts when specific devices are inserted to system, or leave the system, etc)06:57
gil-i need help with flash in firefox, i cant see the text06:57
arrinmurrneedhelp: dpkg -i  is06:57
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shadowplayis there a way to do a history search in irssi (search up the scroll-log)06:57
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czrpsi-jack, udev has it's problem as well though, but I rather not get into that now :-). devfs is dead. long live udev.06:57
Psi-JackHehe06:57
PuMpErNiCkLeshadowplay: hit 'page up'06:57
arrinmurrneedhelp: you should always try to find software in the ubuntu repositories first though06:58
shadowplayPuMpErNiCkLe: yeah, i mean to do a *search* like in less/vim/emacs ...06:58
needhelphow can I search?06:58
needhelpin the respostories?06:58
needhelpand when does synaptic gets upgraded?06:58
shadowplayneedhelp: run synaptic (in the gui) or aptitude (console)06:58
czrpsi-jack, if you fail to do the alsaconf, you might try to config udevd instead, but that would be a bit wrong place to do it (alsa would see the cards in different order from oss-applications)06:58
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needhelpyeah the version its in synaptic its version 0.9406:59
arrinmurrneedhelp: apt-cache search something06:59
Psi-Jackczr: Right. I'm looking how to do it in Alsa... But not getting much luck06:59
czrpsi-jack, can I ask you why you need to reverse their order?06:59
ice_1963or apt-cache search06:59
czrpsi-jack, yeah. alsa docs can be pita ;-)06:59
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Psi-Jackczr: My VIA sound chipset is being made primary.. It's not the primary one I want to have. The SB PCI512 is. I'm only using the VIA one for my phone through Skype.07:00
czrpsi-jack, normally that should be a problem since most programs allow you to set which sound device they should use. that's why I ask07:00
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czrpsi-jack, give me a sec, I'll have a quick look see if I find a nice solution for you. if none will magically appear, you have some alsa learning to do :-)07:01
Psi-Jackczr: Yes. I've tried to, for KDE, set arts to use /dev/dsp1, and it's not working for some reason.. But, I still want /dev/dsp to be the "primary".07:01
czr /dev/dsp* is OSS interface anyway07:01
Psi-Jackczr: I appreciate it. I've been out of he loop for Linux for a couple years... Kinda .. Well, pretty rusty.07:01
czryou should really try to see whether programs allow you to use the ALSA interface07:01
foxinesshi , the synaptic clean the index every week or less can i stop this ,i hate to download it every time07:01
Psi-Jackczr: Skype only uses OSS..\07:02
czrsince the OSS in ubuntu is really an ALSA emulation layer for legacy applications07:02
czryeah, I figured that07:02
Psi-JackHeh.07:02
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czrbut esd should be able to use alsa directly07:02
Psi-JackAnd it really corrupts the sound. Baaaaad problems.07:02
narlesanyone know where i can find gtkpod-aac.. can't find it in universal and multiversal repositories07:02
czrand most other non-braindead-software (depends on how lazy the programmers were really)07:02
czrbut then again, you have VIA, what did you expect? ;-)07:02
czrVIA support in alsa is somewhat lacking since it has so many bugs (the hardware)07:03
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Psi-Jackczr: Yes.. But it works reliably, this one. :)07:03
czrno it doesn't. it just seems to do ;-)07:03
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d33tsamba question: i recently set up samba on a machine where some areas are public, other require a login. when i try to get to the restricted areas from a windows box, the username defaults to "Guest". is there a setting on the server that will allow me to enter a login name every time?07:03
Psi-Jackczr: Works good enough for phone usage. :)07:03
d33ti have done a ton of tutorials and googeld a bit, but i couldn't fix it. don't even know if i can07:04
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d33thaven't hit the forums much though....07:04
czrpsi-jack, try reading this http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=.asoundrc07:04
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czrit explains what are the configurable bits in alsa07:04
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RemmyHi all... my system fails to boot properly... it jibbers out at /etc/init.d/rc... I think because it is looking for /dev/initramfs/progress_state which does not exist. How would I go about fixing this problem?07:05
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brad_teenbotCan ayone please help me with this im trying to get sound working because i have just downloaded linux back onto my computer, what comman (or commands) do i type in the terminal to downlaod the sound config or whatever it is07:06
regeyaoh dear me.07:06
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czrPsi-Jack, now that I'm thinking, editing modules.conf might be a best solution07:06
Toma-brad_teenbot: youre using ubuntu?07:06
Psi-Jackczr: Hmm?07:07
czrPsi-Jack, that way we'd tell the alsa drivers which card index to use for each driver, you have two separate kinds of sound cards, right?07:07
brad_teenbotToma, yes07:07
czrPsi-Jack, is priv msg ok?07:07
czr(are you identified to freenode)07:07
Psi-Jackczr: Yes, and sure.07:07
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czrok, let's continue there07:07
d33thrm, a bit late for samba help then?07:07
Toma-brad_teenbot: what sound card? why are you in a terminal? can you get xmms to make a sound at all? if not, whats it saying?07:08
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brad_teenbotits not saying anything i have no sound because i guess it isnt intalled or anything07:08
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shad0w1eis there really a performance decrease with ext3 versus ext2 (im talking about a very slow machine)07:08
Madpilotbrad_teenbot: no system sounds at all?07:09
czrshad0w1e, define performance07:09
czrshad0w1e, ext3 adds journalling, so that's normally why people use it over ext207:09
d33tshad0w1e: i'm no expert, but from what i've recently read, yes. ext2 doesn't keep a log, so it shoudl use less overhead07:09
shad0w1ehard drive taking longer...07:09
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narleshas anyone tried the command sudo dosfsck -a /dev/sda2??07:09
shad0w1ehow do I check the clock speed of a box?07:09
czrshad0w1e, ext3 on the same hard ware in the same location where you have ext2 before?07:09
brad_teenbotwhen i click on the speaker in the upper right hand corner it sais "no volume control or elements/ or no soundcard found "07:09
d33tshad0w1e: fallback is, you can lose info if the machine dies in mid write07:10
shad0w1ethen I'll at least know what I'm dealing with07:10
czrshad0w1e, cpu clock? or which clock?07:10
shad0w1eCPU07:10
Madpilotbrad_teenbot: do you have a soundcard or on-board?07:10
czrshad0w1e, cat /proc/cpuinfo will give current information about all logical CPUs07:10
shadowplaybrad_teenbot: double-click the speaker .. it'll open the volume control07:10
czrshad0w1e, current speed = if you use throttling/speedstep, CPU MHz will show you the speed at that moment.07:11
shad0w1eOK This is a Cyrix MII 300 (225 Mhz) with 64 RAM07:11
d33tshad0w1e: there's a way to turn off journalling on an ext3 partition, which will make it run as an ext2 partition. you can play with that if you want to test it07:11
shad0w1escary07:11
shad0w1eheh07:11
czrshad0w1e, but cpuinfo contains other useful stuff like vendor id for processors, which normally have proper speeds hard-coded anyway07:11
Psi-Jackczr: Did you get my PMs?07:11
czrPsi-Jack, don't think so07:11
Psi-JackHmm, odd.07:11
czrI got only one :-)07:11
foxinesshi,is there applications to see where my space going "/usr 1 gb /Desktop 3gb etc"07:11
brad_teenbotShadow play,  thats what i dd and it said "no voulume control elements and/or devices found"07:12
Psi-Jackczr: Did you get the Testing? :)07:12
czryes07:12
czrreplied even07:12
Psi-JackHmm.07:12
d33tfoxiness: df07:12
Psi-JackI'm getting.. Nothing.07:12
shad0w1eI dont think I should bother with ext3 on this old machine,...07:12
shadowplaybrad_teenbot: it didn't even open?  if it *is* open try file --> change device07:12
theconartistwhat is a good up-to-date repo, with for example, firefox 1.5?07:12
theconartist:o07:12
czrhmm. ok, let's try again, seems I didn't register after netsplits :--)07:12
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d33tfoxiness: you can use 'df -h' to see it in "human" readable format07:12
Psi-Jackczr: Hehehe07:13
foxinessd33t, i want something like du but GUI one07:13
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d33tfoxiness: that what you wanted?07:13
d33tah07:13
shadowplaybrad_teenbot: you can also go to a terminal and look at dmesg | less07:13
theconartistanyone?07:13
d33tyou using kde or gnome?07:13
shadowplaybrad_teenbot: to see if it found anything like a soundcard when booting07:13
foxinessd33t, ubuntu :) gnome07:14
d33theh, well, i have a nice app on kubuntu, but it's written for kde07:14
brad_teenbotdo i just type in dmesg in the terminal?07:14
shadowplaybrad_teenbot: dmesg | less07:14
foxinessd33t, man i dont like kde07:14
shadowplaybrad_teenbot: space will scroll, 'q' will quit, '?' gives keystroke help07:15
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foxinessd33t, i hate everthing start by K on my life07:15
d33ti'm not partial to either, i'm more of a minimalist guy, but kde works well on the desktop, gnome on the laptop......07:15
d33tyou search synaptic?07:15
foxinessyes07:15
foxinessno07:16
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shadowplaybrad_teenbot: brb07:16
foxinessit download my index -every day job-07:16
foxinessbut i do it on gnomefiles.org07:16
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holycowhey guys, if i want to start a service when a server boots i just haveto symlink to it in rcS.d correct?07:16
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Madpilotfoxiness: for getting more file/directory size info, try Baobab07:16
foxinessand i found this http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=108407:17
holycowhow come the last 2 symlinks i put in rcS.d are now in rc3.d?  if i want to delete those i remove them from rc3.d and recreate new links in rcS.d (the startup scripts are new anyway) ?07:17
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derekSwhy do i have an entry in my /etc/init.d called bittorrent?07:17
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foxinessMadpilot, ok ,thank you for late me know about it , i will try it07:18
d33tfoxiness: well, i have kdirstat on my kde install, don't use anything on gnome07:18
theconartistubotu, dapper07:19
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.07:19
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foxinessd33t, me to :) , but i hope for this day when we live togther07:19
shadowplaybrad_teenbot: find anything?07:20
d33tfoxiness, xdiskusage may work. sounds pretty generic07:20
d33tinstalling now....07:20
brad_teenbotshadowplay, no not really im not having much luck lol07:21
derekScan someone who has bittorrent installed just tell me if its ok to have an /etc/init.d/bittorrent file?07:21
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derekSi don't understand why its necessary07:22
odathi vereyone07:22
odatevery07:22
odatlol07:22
shadowplaybrad_teenbot: are you switching from windows, and can you find out what soundcard you have in windows?07:22
d33tfoxiness, it's not too bad. not sure if it's what you're looking for....07:22
brad_teenbotyes i can do that07:22
brad_teenbotive been kinda cleaning it up because i got allitle spyware on windows but i can go see what sound care it is07:23
shadowplaybrad_teenbot: that could help.  before rebooting, try typing: sudo lspci07:23
d33tah well, one last shot on my question.....07:23
shadowplaybrad_teenbot: see if something comes up that looks like a soundcard or multimedia07:23
cafuegoderekS: It's for the tracker, it doesn't actually run anything by default. Just ignore it.07:24
brad_teenbottype that in the terminal?07:24
d33tanyone know how to specify a logon username when connecting to a samba server from windows?07:24
shadowplaybrad_teenbot: yes07:24
Lockename a few system information desktop applets07:24
shadowplayd33t: man mount07:24
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d33t? how is mount going to help me?07:24
brad_teenbotcan you pm me07:24
d33ti know how to mount samba and windows shares07:25
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shadowplayd33t: sorry, i read the Q backwards07:25
brad_teenbotshadow play, can you pm me?07:25
derekScafuego: alright07:25
derekSthakns07:25
d33theh07:25
szronikWas there an automatic kernel update through Update Manager recently?07:25
d33tprob is, when i try to get to samba from windows, it defaults to Guest login, and i can't change it07:25
d33tis there a setting i'm missing on the samba server?07:25
d33tor is a windows limitation?07:25
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d33t*it07:25
shadowplayd33t: in XP it can be a pain... try right-clicking on the server in the network neighborhood07:26
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shadowplayd33t: somewhere in there is an option to 'connect as' or 'authenticate as'07:26
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szronikDoes the Ubuntu Update manager do kernel updates?07:26
Myrttiyes07:26
shadowplaybrad_teenbot: just type in channel.  if someone sees something they know about they can jump in07:26
szronikMyrtti: Was the kernel updated recently?07:27
Myrttilast week I think07:27
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szronikWell, my system has gone unstable.07:27
d33tshadowplay: so it is a windows problem, nothing i can change on the server side?07:27
brad_teenbottype in channel in the terminal?07:27
scanwinderwhen i start xawtv, i get an error saying "Error: Aborting: no fontset found" does anyone know how to fix this?07:27
shadowplaybrad_teenbot: no, whatever you wanted to pm... type it in the channel07:28
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szronikMyrtti: I've got my desktop icons disappearing, sometimes when I try to open up an application such as Calc or Terminal it won't show up and the desktop freezes and I'm forced to either restart X or reboot.07:28
Xnossomeone can help me with this trouble... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=100204&highlight=vcd07:28
shadowplayd33t: i'm not sure.  What I do know is that once XP connects once to a server, specially if it's mapped to a drive, it won't ask for a username password by default.  it'll just fail to mount.07:29
szronikMyrtti: I didn't have the problem before, but I noticed it after I updated AND rebooted my system.07:29
Myrttiszronik: :-(07:29
odatszronik, go get a live cd something like damn small linux and do a fsck on your hard drive07:29
Myrttican't helpo you with that07:29
Myrttisorry07:29
d33tshadowplay: hrm. well, now xp seems to not want to connect to anything or even see the workgroup. windows is so lame!07:29
szronikodat: Can't I just do an fsck in Ubuntu?07:29
Toma-Xnos: dont want a dvd?07:29
d33tshadowplay: it's just as well, i shoudl sleep soon07:29
d33tshadowplay: thanks07:29
shadowplayd33t: if you try to connect with a brand new xp user-profile though, and right-click instead of double-clicking, it should give an option to change username07:30
Xnosa vcd07:30
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d33tshadowplay: ok, i'll check it out once i can see the server again07:30
shadowplayd33t: worst come to worst, mount it from cygwin :-p07:30
odatszronik, its actually easier if you have alive cd because the hard drive your scanning can not be mounted07:30
Psi-Jackczr: Well, so far it SOUNDS like your genius plan worked. :)07:30
Xnosbut i think that my vcdimager creates invalid cues07:30
odatszronik, damn small linux is only 50 megs07:30
czrpsi-jack, good. hw-autodetect plays nice with us. great :-)07:30
d33tshadowplay: heh, sygwin woudl work in theory, but i want it to be seemless; that and i've never gotten cygwin to work right..... it's quicker to fdisk and install linux :)07:30
czrpsi-jack, it wasn't that genious plan though :-)07:30
Toma-Xnos: can you paste one of your cues onto pastebin?07:31
czrpsi-jack, been using that since old school debians ages ago07:31
Psi-Jackczr: Yep. Ordering is correct.07:31
szronikodat: But I think the kernel update has something to do with this.07:31
czrpsi-jack, good. so now you don't have to muck with alsa confdi07:31
czrconfig even07:31
d33tshadowplay: i'll give the right click a shot though, thanks again07:31
szronikodat Is there any way I can go back to the old kernel?07:31
czrszronik, you using nvidia?07:31
szronikczr: ATI07:31
shadowplayd33t: yeah i was kidding.  I did a fresh install of cygmwin about 6 ms ago and it was prefict07:31
Xnospastebin? it a page?07:31
czrszronik, ATI binary drivers?07:31
Toma-!pastebin07:31
ubotusomebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org07:31
Psi-Jackczr: Yes.. But now, I just need to figure out how to get artsd to only use the emu10k1, instead of possibly both.07:31
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shadowplayd33t: perfect.07:31
odatszronik, sure but i would try reinstalling the current kernel through synaptic07:31
Xnosah ok .. wait07:32
czrpsi-jack, man artsd somehow. it's an arts issue I guess :-)07:32
Toma-ok07:32
d33tshadowplay: off to sleep, take care07:32
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foxinessd33t, thank you for let me know about it , it nice one and simple07:32
Psi-JackWell, I'm not /totally/ sure arts is actually using both.07:32
szronikczr: Hold on, I can't think straight - I just woke up .07:32
Psi-Jackbut there is no manpage on artsd07:32
theconartistmy menu is broken :/07:32
czrpsi-jack, google is your friend (and mine)07:32
szronikczr: I think they are binary drivers that I downloaded off of somewhere - GATOS07:32
ubuntu_hi folks... first time ubuntu user... hello world!07:33
shadowplayobutu is so polite. :-)07:33
czrszronik, the symptoms sound like x-server problems. and since you're using a binary driver changing the running kernel would affect that.07:33
odatgnome rocks!07:33
Xnoshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6987 here is07:33
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czrszronik, so either try to get a newer version of the graphics gw drivers to match your kernel or downgrade the kernel07:33
szronikczr: Yeah, I believe you're right - they are x-server problems for sure.07:34
czrszronik, or use non-binary drivers (non-closed source ones that is)07:34
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szronikczr: How can I revert back to the old kernel?07:34
Toma-Xnos: looks ok here...07:34
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odatszronik, why are you certain that its a kernel problem?07:34
Toma-Xnos: you are keeping the cue+bin in the same directory right?07:34
czrszronik, I wouldn't know :-) someone might (trough synaptic? I don't use synaptic anyway)07:35
Xnosyes07:35
szronikodat: because that was the only major update I did, and since then I've been getting problems07:35
foxinessubuntu_, willcome and hope to see you here for week or so :)07:35
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shadowplayszronik: if you have the old kernel still installed in /boot07:35
szronikodat: I open up Terminal in X and it just freezes sitting there and then kills itself07:35
Xnosi try to burn with nero,nautilus,gnomebaker... and it fails07:35
szronikshadowplay: Rename it?07:35
Toma-Xnos: can you put the error up on pastebin again? the one that errors when burning?07:35
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shadowplayszronik: you just need to tell grub to use it.07:35
szronikOh GRUB.07:36
Toma-Xnos: or did u make that post?07:36
szronikWhatever happened to LILO?07:36
szronik:)07:36
Toma-grub = sxc07:36
befordgrub > lilo07:36
shadowplayszronik: same thing... edit lilo.conf , then rerun lilo07:36
Myrttililo is bull07:36
szronikshadowplay: I'm running GRUB :)07:36
szronikshadowplay: But I never ran GRUB before.07:36
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Xnosok wait07:37
sseshi07:37
shadowplayszronik: much easier.  edit /boot/grub/menu.lst07:37
szronikshadowplay: Okay, will do.07:37
ssesdoes anyone know how to reconfigure sources.list repsitories from the dpkg utility?  Is it something like "dpkg-reconfig" ?07:38
shadowplayszronik: then reboot.  that's it.  If things go wrong, grub gives you a quasi shell to edit it's own config, *with tab completion* at boot time07:38
ssesI can't it in the debian sarge howto07:38
Toma-sses: "man dpkg"07:38
ssesk07:38
shadowplayszronik: goes without saying that you read the manpage b4 doing any of that though07:39
szronikshadowplay: So the last kernel update was 2.6.12-10?07:39
Toma-szronik: yep.07:39
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cvt|kdehow do i extract a .rar file?07:40
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Toma-unless u want vanilla bleeding edge07:40
shadowplayszronik: on ubuntu, as of a few weeks ago, yes07:40
shaohhey07:40
shaohim new in ubuntu 5.1007:40
odatcvt|kde, did you try archive manager and or file roller07:40
shaohhow to you put on a root password?07:40
cvt|kdeodat, archive manager so far07:40
szronikshadowplay: I see the old kernel listed in menu.lst07:40
shadowplaycvt|kde: there's an unrar utility07:40
szronikshadowplay: So I suppose that it's possible to boot to the old one.07:40
shadowplaycvt|kde: apt-cache search unrar07:40
odatcvt|kde, familiar with synatpic?07:40
Toma-sses: 'sudo dselect' could work07:41
shadowplayszronik: make sure that the time-out isnt 007:41
cvt|kdeodat, yes07:41
odatshaoh, there is only sudo07:41
szronikshadowplay: Okay, thanks.07:41
Xnoshere is the error in gnomebaker07:41
Xnoshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/698807:41
odatcvt|kde, do a search for unrar and pick the non free one07:41
ssesthanks07:41
odatthen archive manager will work07:41
befordshaoh, the root password is your own password, if you want a root shell just type "sudo -s -H" and use your password when it asks it.07:41
szronikshadowplay: Thanks a lot for your help, time for a reboot.07:41
shaohokay. thanks07:42
scanwinderwhen i start xawtv, i get an error saying "Error: Aborting: no fontset found" does anyone know how to fix this?07:42
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ssesI think the command is dpkg-reconfigure XXXX07:42
Mabus06what's the easiest way to get an .iso from a cd-rom and then later burn it onto a disc?07:42
Toma-sses: that'll reconfigure a package thats already installed... not mess with sources.list07:43
Psi-Jackczr: What would alsa's "device" be for the one on index0?07:43
odatscanwinder, yea used tvtime lol07:43
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odatused=use07:43
ssesha found it07:43
scanwinderodat: can u record with tvtime?07:43
czrpsi-jack, you mean device node?07:43
narlesdoes anyone know why i can't edit the information of m4a files on amarok.. ??this is frustrating me07:43
Psi-Jackczr: Yes07:43
czrpsi-jack, card 0 is emu10k1 for you now07:43
ssesdpkg-reconfigure apt07:44
Psi-JackRight.07:44
odatscanwinder, don't think so07:44
scanwinderodat: ive always used xawtv but, since i installed breezy, it wont work07:44
czrpsi-jack, accedding alsa devices is done trough alsalib, hw:0.0 maybe07:44
Psi-Jackczr: Trying to configure arts to use just the emu10k1. And /dev/dsp is incorrect. :)07:44
czryes, because /dev/dsp* is OSS-stuff07:44
Toma-Xnos: looks like a driver error... can you burn other things?07:44
sseshttp://lists.debian.org/deity/2003/01/msg00270.html07:44
shadowplayMabus06: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=myfile.iso07:44
shadowplayMabus06: then use one of the gui utilities to burn the iso to the new cd07:45
Psi-Jackczr: So, is there a /dev for it?07:45
ssesthere's a repositoty that is out so my interest in reconfiguring sources.list07:45
Mabus06shad0w1e, are there no guis for ripping isos?07:45
odatscanwinder, i never messed with xawtv there seemed to be to many components07:45
Xnosyes , i can burn music... but music not at the top speed... because the cd dont burn  the last 2 or 3 songs07:45
Toma-sses: might be easier to simple open it witha text editor07:45
Mabus06shadowplay, i mean07:45
Xnosinstead i burn music at 4x07:46
narlesdoes anyone know why i can't edit the information of m4a files on amarok.. ??this is frustrating me07:46
shadowplayMabus06: whoah.... grrr. totally misread your q.07:46
czrpsi-jack, not that I know of that programs should access directly07:46
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Xnosbut other dates burn normally07:46
Toma-Xnos: weird....07:46
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rick_hello everyone07:46
ssesnope 'cause the utility will prompt to valid repositories07:46
shadowplayshadowplay: yes there are. don't know the name offhand.07:46
czrpsi-jack, alsa devices are accessed by names that are defined in asound.rc (alsa lib config) or if there is none, then using default names07:46
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Mabus06shadowplay, oh?07:46
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larshow to yous web cam for lnux07:46
czrpsi-jack, you might want to read the alsa docs ;-)07:46
rick_i have a simple question, is there a program in ubuntu that will allow me to view all the wireless networks in the area?07:46
wckdkl0wncan someone tell me how to install the latest version of xchat??07:47
Xnosother data burn fine07:47
czrpsi-jack, normally applications using alsa for sound will use the API defined in alsalib (a programming library for alsa)07:47
scanwinderrick_: iwscan07:47
Toma-wckdkl0wn: you can get it from the seveas backports07:47
Psi-JackHmmm07:47
wckdkl0wnhow do i do that?07:47
czrpsi-jack, the library would then use the device nodes, which are under /proc/asound/*, but applications should not touch them directly07:47
befordwckdkl0wn, apt-get install xchat ?07:47
Toma-!seveas07:47
ubotuSeveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages07:47
rick_ah, ty scanwinder, is that included with ubuntu or will i need to dl it?07:47
wckdkl0wntryed that but it says i have the latest  but 2.4.1 isnt the latest07:47
scanwinderrick_: i dont know, i use it in debian tho, so it should work in ubuntu07:47
shadowplayMabus06: once you have it installed, just inserting the audio cd should start the app07:47
Toma-wckdkl0wn: im using 2.6.0 from seveas here07:48
rick_ty very much:)07:48
Mabus06shadowplay, have what installed?07:48
wckdkl0wnToma-, ok how do i get it??07:48
B_166-ER-XProblem here : I try to play with starcraft with Wine (installed on another Hd under XP, hda1) but when i enter the command to execute the game '.exe'    i have a message saying that it cannot detect my cd-rom in the drive..ect..ect.. but it IS in there...and i can even look at its content, so ubuntu can see it, PLEASE if someone could help..07:48
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Toma-Xnos: im unfamiliar with vcdimager sorry :(07:48
shad0w1eHow do I view memory allocation (used/free/swap) from the console?07:48
Toma-ubotu: tell wckdkl0wn about seveas07:49
scanwinderrick_: oops i meant "iwlist scan"07:49
shadowplayMabus06: i sec07:49
Xnosno problem man... i will try to uninstall or install another version07:49
Toma-Xnos: yeh, try different apps aswell07:49
Psi-Jackczr: Okay: hw:0.0 didn't seem to work, but it did seem that artsd didn't reject it as if it were a file (file not found). So, how can I get the names alsa uses? :)07:49
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czrpsi-jack, let me do a quick check then :-)07:49
Toma-Xnos: if you want to use a dvd instead, Qdvdauthor is my weapon of choice :)07:50
B_166-ER-Xsomeone ??07:50
Toma-B_166-ER-X: you need to setup your cdrom path in wine config file07:50
B_166-ER-Xuh07:51
tonyisntcreativecan ANYONE help me get the back and forward buttons on my mouse working?07:51
Xnosthat programs is like anydvd ?07:51
Toma-anydvd?07:51
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_jasonubotu, tell tonyisntcreative about mouse507:51
Toma-B_166-ER-X: what version of wine do you have?07:51
B_166-ER-XToma- any idea how to to this ? --help has only --version in it..07:51
_jasonwhy do ppl delete sueful things...07:51
shadowplayMabus06: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CDRipping?highlight=%28CategoryDocumentation%2907:51
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wckdkl0wnok that didnt help me any07:52
B_166-ER-XTom- eh, the one from the repos.. wait i'll check07:52
odatXnos, i find mplayer works great for dvd's07:52
_jasontonyisntcreative, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto07:52
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B_166-ER-XWine 0.9.5 toma-07:52
czrPsi-Jack, try hw:0,007:52
Toma-odat: he wants to make a dvd, not watch one07:52
Mabus06nah you were right the first time, shadowplay07:52
czrthe second device would be hw:1,007:52
Toma-or optimally a vcd07:52
Psi-Jackczr: Looks like , was the difference. :)07:53
czrand the ,X is a subdevice for devices which support hardware mixing (like emu10k1 does)07:53
czrso you can have xmms using hw:0,0 and arts using hw:0,1 at the same time and hw would mix the audio07:53
odatToma-, ahh ok sorry lol07:53
Mabus06I'm trying to basically take a scratched cd and burn a new copy of it.07:53
czrthere's also a dmix plugin that would allow software mixing for hw that doesn't allow hardware mixing07:53
odatToma-, mencoder?07:53
Psi-Jackczr: : PERFECT. Now only the front two speakers give regular audio from the system. :D07:54
Toma-B_166-ER-X: ok, "cd ~/.wine/dosdevices/ && ls -l" what does that say is looking at /med/cdrom0 ???07:54
Psi-JackNow, to make sure it didn't screw up the surround. :)07:54
shadowplayMabus06: an audio cd though right?07:54
czrand it's possible to define (using asound.conf/rc) so that if you have two plugs for line-outs (for 5.1), the plugs will be used as two 'separate' stereo out 'cards'. quite nifty07:54
Toma-DONT paste it all in here.07:54
Mabus06shadowplay, no07:54
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rick_iwscan appears to be no longer around07:54
czrPsi-Jack, alsalib config is way flexible (one might say 'complicated as hell') ;-)07:54
rick_the student who converted it took down his site07:54
shadowplayModer: ohhh. yeah, dd will do it.  No need to 'rip'.  That's for audio07:54
Psi-Jackczr: Yeah. I don't need all that. I just want the front two to be used as "standard" audio. The back two for surround in movies and such, and the secondary audio "card" for phone. :)07:55
czrPsi-Jack, I never really learned it properly ;-)07:55
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czrPsi-Jack, but it works for you already?07:55
theconartistdoes doing dist-upgrade to dapper usually give problems?07:55
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Psi-Jackczr: Sure does so far, so good.07:55
czrPsi-Jack, I wouldn't know how the surrounds stuff works though07:55
Mabus06shadowplay, brb07:55
Hobbseetheconartist: it could, it might be fine - depends on the day07:55
Psi-Jackczr: It works better than PowerDVD in Windows, actually. Surround seperation in ALSA is practically perfect.07:55
B_166-ER-Xtoma- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/698907:55
Toma-theconartist: its still in development. i wouldnt wreck yoursystem till youre going to try wrecking it up to a stable system07:55
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czrPsi-Jack, you tried it already?07:56
reZoOk, I have the modem driver download, how where do I put it? What location on the drive?07:56
Psi-Jackczr: I'm about to try it with the change in artsd configuration.07:56
Toma-B_166-ER-X: ok, you dont have a CDrom setup.07:56
B_166-ER-Xarr07:56
Psi-JackBut otherwise, yes, I have played a surround-sound DVD, and it played beautifully with surround.07:56
Toma-B_166-ER-X: never fear, its easy07:56
czrPsi-Jack, ok. sounds good, yell if you need me & have fun07:56
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reZoIs there a certian folder which modem drivers in Ubuntu go into?07:57
czrI want to use sb at some point for two independent stereo outs (for cheapola audio mixing stuff)07:57
Toma-B_166-ER-X: "ln -s /medira/cdrom0 ~/.wine/dosdevices/d:"07:57
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czror rather, have the other output for monitoring (head-phones)07:57
Toma-B_166-ER-X: also for correct spelling, "ln -s /media/cdrom0 ~/.wine/dosdevices/d:"07:58
rick_anyone know where to get iwscan?07:58
Toma-rick_: doesnt exist in ubuntu repos07:58
shadowplayPsi-Jack: what sound card do you use?07:58
Psi-Jackczr: Oh yeah. Surround still works. Perfectly. :)07:58
rick_yea i know07:58
czrpsi-jack, cool07:58
rick_i guess its the only way to find wireless networks in ur area?07:58
czrpsi-jack, now prepare to feel to force of the dark, err, alsa side :-)07:58
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Psi-Jackshadowplay: A SoundBlaster PCI 512 for the primary, and the on-board VIA 82cxx for the secondary.07:59
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B_166-ER-Xtoma- ok thx, i added E: too, but i guess i rushed a bit and did the /medira line once :\07:59
reZoLaters, /dev/null/ thats where right?07:59
czrdamn shame that most programmers still want to use the old crapola OSS APIs07:59
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reZoAnyways, I'm out.07:59
reZoBe back on Linux :)07:59
Toma-B_166-ER-X: well rm the link07:59
brxrick_: iwlist?07:59
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rick_thanks brx il look for it07:59
brxrick_: it should be installed already08:00
Toma-rick_: airsnort08:00
rick_oh ok08:00
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rick_il try to find it08:00
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rick_im a noob so im not sure where to look for that stuff if its not in the applications menu08:01
czrPsi-Jack, if you'd like to give a proper name for the cards, add this into your ~/.asound.rc :08:01
nelposto.. is it just me or are the standard ubuntu repositories painfully slow atm?08:01
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czrPsi-Jack, pcm.foobar { type hw \n card 0 \n device 0 }08:01
Toma-ahhh nevermind. airsnort is something else i was thinking of08:01
brxrick_: oh it is a cli app08:01
czrPsi-Jack, then you could use foobar to mean hw:0,008:01
brxrick_: (command line interface)08:01
Psi-Jackczr: Ooooh.. :)08:01
bamm`laptop!info cli08:01
rick_oh i see, do you know how to use it08:01
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B_166-ER-XToma- ehh, ok , but uh, still not working :| same message08:01
czrPsi-Jack, ~/.asound.rc is read by alsalib whenever a program wants to use alsa, so it will magically work08:01
Psi-Jackczr: Or /etc/asound.conf, right?08:01
czrPsi-Jack, probably yes.08:02
brxrick_: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal08:02
Psi-JackThat's what I read before. :)08:02
czrthat would be the system wide place to put the stuff08:02
theconartistwhere is the gnome menu file located?08:02
Toma-B_166-ER-X: have you installed "winetools" ?08:02
rick_ok im there08:02
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B_166-ER-Xhm. nop08:02
brxrick_: then type "man iwlist"08:02
B_166-ER-Xretrying something..08:02
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Toma-B_166-ER-X: it'll save us both alot of time + effort ;)08:03
brxrick_: :)08:03
B_166-ER-Xtoma- ok08:03
odatToma-, do not use winetools   f--ks it up08:03
czrPsi-Jack, alsa on ubuntu is using the default file for alsalib (/usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf) which starts by reading /etc/asound.conf and then ~/asoundrc (heh, not asound.rc it seems ;-)08:03
Psi-Jackczr: Where could I find the device nodes for my emu10k1? ;)  I suddenly feel the urge to "label" all front/rear/etc channels.08:03
czrerr, .asoundrc08:03
rick_hmm ok, i got a menu up that says iwlist interface scanning, frequency, and rate08:03
czrlet me see Psi-Jack08:03
nelpostoanyone else finding the ubuntu repositories really slow?08:04
cgenelposto, yes08:04
scanwinderrick_: i meant "iwlist"08:04
brxrick_: man is just a program which lets you browse through your system's manual pages. documentation written for programs etc08:04
Toma-odat: set my links up pretty well08:04
rick_oh08:05
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rick_i see08:05
nelpostocge ah.. it's not just me then.. is there a reason for it? normally I can max my connection out on it08:05
rick_so this is the manual for iwlist08:05
rick_got ya08:05
cgeAfter having installed dapper flight 3, no daemons can seem to bind to ports - I get "bind: cannot assign requested address". Does anyone else have this problem?08:05
brxrick_: man iwlist shows you the manual page for iwlist08:05
brxyes :)08:05
rick_thank you very much, so very helpful08:05
czrhmmh. Psi-Jack, I'm not exactly sure how alsa goes in translating the device ids (subdevices under cards) into channel devices: /proc/asound/cardX/08:05
cgenelposto, No, I usually get around 500 kB/s, and am getting only 23 kB/s right now.08:05
nelpostosigh08:05
czrPsi-Jack, c is for 'capture' (recording) and p for 'playback' (output)08:05
scanwinderrick_: if u want it to list the accesspoints its "iwlist accesspoints"08:05
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Psi-JackI see. :)08:05
czrPsi-Jack, what you should do for labelling is add another entry in your ~/.asoundrc08:06
rick_awesome, ty08:06
odatToma-, they told me in room winehq  not to use winetools08:06
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nelpostooh well... wait it out. If only i'd decided to download the linux-tree FIRST before I went to lunch08:06
czrthe foobar was for the first two channels which would probably map to front stereo output plug08:06
whitynzHmm mounting a fat32 partition with write access is proving to be a wanker08:06
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shadowplayrick_: documentation is usually in 3 places on your system: man <something>; info <someting>; or in /usr/share/doc/<something>08:06
Toma-odat: oic08:06
czrfor second plug, I'd try this: pcm.baz { type hw \n card 0 \n device 1 }08:06
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rick_awesome, that helps a ton08:06
_jasonwhitynz, just pass the umask=0222 option '-o umask=0222'08:06
czrthat would correspond to hw:0,1 which would be the second output subdevice which _should_ correspond to read-stereo out08:07
whitynzok08:07
_jasonwhitynz, my bad that's wrong.... umask=000008:07
czrPsi-Jack, I also could be totally wrong of course :-)08:07
whitynznothing else?08:07
brxrick_: at some point it becomes rather selfdocumentary, which is nice :)08:07
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czrPsi-Jack, as I said, I'm no alsa guru by a long shot08:07
Psi-JackHeh.08:07
brxrick_: check "man man"08:07
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Psi-JackYeah, so far, naming isn't working.08:07
shadowplayrick_: info <something> covers the first two cases (both man, and info)08:07
czrdid you put it into ~/.asoundrc?08:07
Psi-JackThen again..08:07
Psi-JackNow hw:0,0 isn't working. :/08:08
rick_i will be happy to get to that point..and i see that i will need to because when i type iwlist accesspoints i get 'interface doesnt have a list of ap's08:08
czrand \n means a newline08:08
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rick_lol08:08
czrPsi-Jack, so the lib is at least reading the file, might be something wrong with my syntax then08:08
shadowplayrick_: or info man or man info :-p08:08
rick_kewl08:09
ssesI was wrong "# apt-setup" wil reconfigure sources.list08:09
PuMpErNiCkLeor info info08:09
czrPsi-Jack, http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/asoundrc.php#naming08:09
rick_tons of ways it seems08:09
brxshadowplay: hjow about info info08:09
Psi-Jackczr: Yeah, cause removing .asoundrc got hw:0,0 back to working. hehe08:09
ssesor sudo instead of # for reg ubuntu setups08:09
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brxrick_: do you have a wireless card and does ubuntu recognize it?08:09
czrPsi-Jack, now you have a handly mechanism to disable alsa then ;-)08:09
Psi-JackLOL08:10
shadowplaybrx: well according to the gnu folks, they're all redundant. emacs. is the answer. lol08:10
rick_brx: yes, it recognizes it fine, im using it right now, just when i type iwlist ap i get interface doesnt have a list of peers/aps08:10
Psi-Jackczr: Either that, or that \n was supposed to be a literal line break. LOL08:10
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czrit was supposed to be a literal line break, tried to tell you that :-)08:11
czrwas too lazy to use pastebin you see ;-)08:11
brxshadowplay: I tend to agree :)08:11
brxrick_: ah08:11
brxrick_: iwlist scan08:11
Psi-Jackczr: Yeah. I missed it. :)08:11
brx(or long: scanning)08:11
czrPsi-Jack, check the link I gave you, and bookmark it08:11
rick_brx: yea i have done that a couple times, pretty much just gives me info about what im connected to now08:11
Psi-JackAlready have.08:12
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brxrick_: then maybe no other aps are in range ;)08:12
czrit seems to be a best explanation so far that I ran across08:12
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rick_brx: well usually when i do a scan in windows it finds a couple more..but..thats windows..so who knows08:12
rick_brx: its amazing how my wireless works instantly and twice as fast in linux over windows xp08:13
rick_actually no its not amazing] 08:13
czrPsi-Jack, in newer kernels the alsa stuff should be moving under /sys via sysfs. but I don't know whether that has happened so I'm still using /proc/asound08:13
czralsa stuff = kernel interface to ALSA, in this case08:13
Psi-Jackczr: Ahh. Hey, proc is there, and it's working. :)08:13
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czryeah, it might just go away at some point08:13
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czrnot proc, but /proc/asound08:13
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Psi-JackRight. hehe08:14
rick_i will give iwlist another try when im at school where i know there is another network08:14
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brxrick_: that also depends on the hardware you are using. if there are no readily available kernel modules for your card then it takes a bit longer due to some hoop jumping08:15
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rick_brx: the scanning takes longer u mean?08:15
brxrick_: no.08:15
Mabus06what is a good gui for creating an iso from a cd08:15
Psi-JackWell, my frontchannel name worked. heh08:15
brxrick_: I was referring to your last statement in my direction08:15
rick_brx: i was saying windows was a lot slower and more unreliable than linux08:16
Psi-Jackrearchannel and otherchannel, on hw:0,2 and hw:0,3 didn't work for some reason.08:16
brxaaaaah08:16
rick_brx: wireless wise for me08:16
brxsorry, my bad.08:16
czrPsi-Jack, 0,0 is front, 0,1 might be back08:16
cdubya!ndiswrapper08:16
ubotundiswrapper is probably a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper08:16
Psi-JackMaybe.. I'll try that.08:16
czralthough I'm not exactly sure how the channel mapping goes, so I migh be wrong08:16
PuMpErNiCkLeMabus06: right click on the cd, select 'copy cd'08:16
brxrick_: see ubuto for what I was referring to ;)08:16
czryou might need to do more specific configuration too, not sure at all08:17
czrPsi-Jack, but if you pay me 100 USD/hour + taxes, I'm willing to learn and tell you ;-)08:17
Psi-JackLOL08:17
Mabus06PuMpErNiCkLe, for when you only have one drive, though..08:17
rick_brX: i think u were misunderstanding me, i wasnt having any problbems with linunx and wireless, just commenting on how it was better than windows for me08:17
PuMpErNiCkLeMabus06: same thing08:17
czrthe 100 is the lower rate I normally use :-)08:17
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brxcdubya: is there an index with all those bot commands lying around?08:17
Psi-Jackczr: Yeah, 1 didn't do it either. It's not important. I got pcm.frontchannel working. The other two just aren't taking.08:17
Mabus06PuMpErNiCkLe, no... doesn't work08:17
PuMpErNiCkLeo_O08:17
brxrick_: 08:16 <brx> sorry, my bad.08:17
cdubyabrx, not sure, I just kinda keep my eyes peeled and then guess on some.....:)08:18
czryeah, maybe you should ask someone on #alsa08:18
cdubyabrx, most are ones I've seen used here before.....08:18
rick_brx: ty very much for ur assistance08:18
Psi-Jackczr: *blinks* You know...08:18
PuMpErNiCkLeMabus06: When the menu appears, there's a drop-down box that says "write disk to..."08:18
PuMpErNiCkLeMabus06: Click on that, and select "file".08:18
brxrick_: it's the only reason I am here. :)08:18
czrPsi-Jack, hum?08:18
Mabus06PuMpErNiCkLe, nope... says no media in selected drive before I get a chance to select anything08:18
Psi-Jackczr: I never thought about #alsa. :p08:19
brx!tell brx about ndiswrapper08:19
czrPsi-Jack, neither did I up till now :--)08:19
PuMpErNiCkLeMabus06: Do you have the media in a recognized drive? ;)08:19
czrPsi-Jack, otoh, the ordering thing was ubuntu-specific the way we did it (debian-specific to be precise)08:19
tonyisntcreativecan someone help me get the back and forward buttons on my mouse to work?  i can't seem to get them to be recognized or something08:19
Psi-Jackczr: Yeah. I know.08:19
czrPsi-Jack, but I'm sure that by using .asoundrc you could have given names for different cards, but the ordering would still be wrong on the OSS-side for /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp1/208:20
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Mabus06PuMpErNiCkLe, the to-be-isoed cd is in the drive08:21
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czrmaybe someone should write a book about using and programming for modern audio stuff on linux08:21
Psi-JackI'm trying out my skype phone now. :)08:21
czrcovering alsa configuration, dmix, jack, and audio over usb/firewire as well as SCO over bluetooth08:21
Mabus06PuMpErNiCkLe, uh, now it works for some reason, on like the fourth try... :/08:21
rob1SCO?08:21
ssesnight08:22
PuMpErNiCkLeMabus06: cool :)08:22
czryeah, link type used in sycnrhonous links in bluetooth08:22
czrnot SCO as in the evil SCO08:22
PuMpErNiCkLeMabus06: So long as it keeps on working - unlike mine, which failed because of a bad PSU that crashed the entire computer - it's all good. :)08:23
Mabus06PuMpErNiCkLe, it's a scratched-to-hell windows xp cd that I'm trying to get on a new,  unscratched cd08:23
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PuMpErNiCkLeMabus06: Good luck, then ^^08:23
cdubya"not SCO as in the evil SCO"......:)08:23
PuMpErNiCkLecafuego: :o08:24
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Psi-JackWoohoo! Skype works uninterupted now, because of audio locking. :D08:24
gerald-voltcan I copy files from my windows partition to my reiser fs?08:24
cafuegoPsi-Jack: start it using the dsp_hijack wrapper08:24
gerald-voltseems to be working08:24
gerald-voltbut kinda slow08:25
cafuegogerald-volt: only when running Linux.08:25
PuMpErNiCkLegerald-volt: Yeah.08:25
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Psi-JackDamnit. I spoke too soon.08:25
Psi-Jackcafuego: The what?08:25
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gerald-voltbut you can't write to it right?08:25
cathi08:25
PuMpErNiCkLegerald-volt: ubuntu has read-only ability for ntfs (ie, windows) partitions.08:25
czrPsi-Jack, might be problem in via08:25
gerald-voltwhich partitions allow you to write ?08:25
cafuegoPsi-Jack: Did you install skype via Seveas packages?08:25
nelpostoare there mirrors of the ubuntu repositories?08:26
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czrPsi-Jack, oss apps lock the device to themselves anyway when they use it08:26
gerald-voltwell actually08:26
Psi-Jackcafuego: Negative.08:26
gerald-volthow do I chmod a directory?08:26
cafuegoPsi-Jack: Well, why don't you do that instead.08:26
czrPsi-Jack, or problem using artds at the sae time?08:26
PuMpErNiCkLegerald-volt: A lot... ntfs is complicated, though.  Ext3, fat16/32, ReiserFS, HFS, ...08:26
Psi-Jackcafuego: Hehe.08:26
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PuMpErNiCkLegerald-volt: chmod -R08:26
cafuegoPsi-Jack: ity comes with a wrapper that hijacks /dev/dsp and organises sound for you.08:26
Psi-Jackczr: It's apparently a problem with Skype itself.08:26
Psi-Jackcafuego: Hmmm....08:26
czrhow suprising ;-)08:26
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czryet another closed source binary program which has glitches. with open source I kind of understand that, but not with closed one :-)08:27
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Psi-JackAh good.08:27
Psi-JackSeveas's deb is WORKING tonight.08:27
PuMpErNiCkLeczr: Bad programming is universal. ;)08:27
rixthI accidenally formatted some very important files, what can I use to revoer them?08:27
cafuegoPsi-Jack: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/08:27
cdubyaanyone know why I would get a bunch of PS garbage out when I setup a PS-capable printer with the PPD file from the manufacturer?08:27
rixthrecover, rather08:27
czrPuMpErNiCkLe, fortunately not complete universal, but yes, I tend to agree08:27
czrcompletely even08:27
cafuegoPsi-Jack: Specifically, get skype-dsp-hijacker08:28
cafuegoas well as skype itself.08:28
Psi-Jackcafuego: Hehe. Alright. Thanks.08:28
PuMpErNiCkLeczr: Well, not *quite*, I guess.08:28
cafuegoand start skype using skyp_dsp_hijacker08:28
cafuegoWorks dandy here (though having a mic would help ... :-)08:28
czrwriting good software requires a good software development process. can't get those with the same cost as cheap ones08:28
Psi-Jackcafuego: LOL. I use Skype for my phone. :)08:28
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Psi-Jackcafuego: It's my VoIP IN/OUT service. So it's kinda ... Neccessary.08:29
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gerald-voltls08:29
PuMpErNiCkLegerald-volt: lol08:30
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dell500anyone know how to get dual instances of totem?08:30
Psi-JackERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/local/lib/libskype_dsp_hijacker.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.08:30
Psi-JackHmmm08:30
cafuegoPsi-Jack: edit the script and set the prefix to /usr instead of /usr/local08:31
cafuegoPsi-Jack: then /msg seveas and tell him to fix his shit ;-)08:31
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Psi-Jackcafuego: Heh, yep. :)08:32
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cafuegoPsi-Jack: Oh, and make sure snd-pcm-oss is loaded.08:33
Psi-Jackcafuego: Oh, it is.08:33
Psi-JackSo far the dsp hijacker is working PERFECTLY. :D08:33
cafuegoPsi-Jack: That's the idea ;-)08:33
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cdubyanoone has messed with setting up a printer that ubuntu didn't have a driver for already?08:34
Psi-Jackcafuego: It's a pitty that I can't setup Skype to use a different device for Calls, and Rings..08:34
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Psi-JackThey disabled the one for Rings.08:34
mattsmhow do i make sure a module gets loaded with ubuntu starts?08:34
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Slaj_RUrgent Question.  I have an external hard drive, and Ubuntu tells me I don't have the permissions necessary to view the contents.  When I type $sudo cd /media/usbdisk, I get "cd: command not found."  This only started happening just now.08:35
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Slaj_RIt started after I performed a backup using Simple Backup.08:36
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cafuegoPsi-Jack: The newer version (I think) can do that. Not sure if there's a Linux one, though.08:36
gerald-voltanyone know what that site that has all the dependencies for cvscedega08:36
cafuego!cvscedega08:36
ubotucafuego: Are you smoking crack?08:36
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cafuegoubotu: yes08:36
czrSlaj_R, cd is not a command08:36
ubotuYes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, cafuego?08:36
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advershey guys08:37
Psi-Jackcafuego: Heh, yeah.. I noticed.08:37
czrSlaj_R, do this: sudo su -08:37
adverscan someone help me08:37
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advershow do i install a program specifically bitchX08:37
czrSlaj_R, then do the cd, the shell will be using root privileges to be careful08:37
adversi extracted the files to desktop08:37
adversi do not know the terminal command to install08:37
Psi-JackOkay.08:37
Psi-JackNow for ONE FINAL problem to fix.08:37
bamm`laptopadvers08:37
projadvers: sudo apt-get install ${program}08:37
cafuegoadvers: 'sudo apt-get install irssi-text; alias bitchx=irssi'08:37
bamm`laptopyou could sudo apt-get install bitchx08:37
Psi-JackHow the heck to I get it so when I'm using Skype, I don't hear myself echoing back into my headset?08:37
czrpsi-jack, final fix? that's easy: sudo poweroff :-)08:37
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ftg2what packages are required for X development?08:38
mar_urshi08:38
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Slaj_Rczr:  Okay, after sudo su - I try "#chmod -r 777 usbdisk" and get "cannot access 777: no such file or directory"08:38
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PuMpErNiCkLechmod -R08:38
NickZAwhat languages/pages can I use on a linux webserver ? html and php ?08:38
PuMpErNiCkLeit's case-sensitive08:39
czrSlaj_R, because you don't know how to use chmod :-)08:39
bamm`laptopWhatever languages you install :] 08:39
cafuegoNickZA: html, xml, php, perl, python, C, whatever.08:39
NickZAasp ?08:39
Slaj_Rczr:  Oops.  Thanks.08:39
bamm`laptopNot asp08:39
czrSlaj_R, also what you're doing is wrong wrong wrong08:39
cafuegoSlaj_R: is the USB disk a fat32 one?08:39
czrf*k, the host booted again by itself08:39
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projcafuego: how long has nfts been experiemental?08:40
Slaj_RExcept now, I get "chmod: cannot access 'usbdisk/.<hidden directories>': Input/Output error"08:40
Slaj_RNo, it's ext2.08:40
cafuegoSlaj_R: is the USB disk a fat32 one?08:40
PuMpErNiCkLeczr: Demolish an old/spare box right near the smp-box... intimidation works08:40
cafuegoproj: Since 1998 I think (Win2K)08:40
NickZAim wondering if its worth changing to a hosted linux server, ive only developed in asp/html08:40
Psi-JackDoes anyone know how to mute the mic feedback I'm getting when trying to talk on SKype? I can hear myself because it's not muting the mi.08:40
cafuegoSpec: Ok.08:40
Psi-Jackmic08:40
Slaj_RLike I said, I never had this problem in the past.08:40
cafuegoPsi-Jack: Run the mixer.08:40
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Slaj_ROnly after I backed up to the external hd.08:40
Psi-Jackcafuego: Yes.. I've done that...08:41
cafuegoPsi-Jack: Fiddle the levels until you stop getting feedback.08:41
gerald-volthow do i view the printing status08:41
gerald-voltand how do i kill individual ones08:41
NickZAsetting up and running a webserver on wiki I presume ?08:41
projcafuego: I guess MS really made their file system cryptic. That or no one wants to dignify MS by being able to read their FS.. ;)08:41
cafuegoNickZA: 's up to you. PHP isn't particularly hard. What have you been uisng? VB.Net or VBscript?08:42
Psi-Jackcafuego:  Apparently, Skype is taking over the mixer, and is adjusting the Capture volume, but doesn't mute the sound the mix makes, locally.08:42
PuMpErNiCkLeproj: It's cryptic.08:42
NickZAcafuego, vbscript08:42
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Slaj_RThen I check the backup files by opening Simple Backup Restore, and it says no backup files are found, even though I see them in Nautilus.08:42
cafuegoproj: Oh you can read it just fine, just writing is the problem.08:42
cafuegoNickZA: You'll find php refreshingly powerful then :-)08:42
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cYriL_hello08:43
NickZAcafuego, ok so php is powerful then ? I need to run a sql solution too08:43
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bamm`laptopmysql or postresql08:43
Psi-JackPHP is very powerful.08:43
projNickZA: php is good but Ruby is better.. ;)08:44
cafuegoNickZA: php can talk to all manner of sql systems. Pick mysql or postgresql prolly.08:44
NickZAproj, I need a newbie friendly one08:44
projNickZA: * nods * there is definitely less resources..08:44
projfor Ruby08:44
bamm`laptopproj must be insane08:45
paulproteus|laptPsi-Jack: PHP also sucks tremendously.08:45
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NickZAok ill look into php and mysql then, let me try and get the webserver up first08:45
cafuegoNickZA: Well, for ruby there's a thing called 'rails' which may help development quite a lot.08:45
paulproteus|laptOh, we're comparing to VBScript?08:45
paulproteus|laptGeez.08:45
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paulproteus|laptYeah, PHP is better than that trash.08:45
Psi-JackHmmm.08:45
Psi-JackDangit.08:45
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paulproteus|laptThat doesn't PHP is any good.... (-;08:46
cafuegoNickZA: Personally, I use php/mysql. Highly portable, works fine.08:46
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Psi-JackNo matter what I do, I can;t get  the mic feedback to stop.08:46
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cafuegoPsi-Jack: Unplug it ;-)08:46
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NickZAhehe ok one of those endless discussion let me start with those two and see how it goes08:46
cafuego!start a language war08:46
ubotubahasa is far more elegant than C#08:46
ajmitchall lies08:46
ajmitchC# is far nicer ;)08:46
cafuegoajmitch: pisang08:46
ftg2what packages are requried for X development? trying to complete a kde build; kdebase fails at xmkmf during the config process..tells me to make sure all the X development packages are installed.08:47
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Slaj_ROkay, I ran a new backup just to see what would happen.  Now SB Restore finds the files but the permissions are changed again.  I don't want to waste all available space on the drive though.  Should I perhaps backup to a special directory on the drive to avoid the problem?08:47
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paulproteus|laptftg2: apt-get install x-dev ...08:47
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ajmitchproj: we'll stop now :)08:48
ftg2paulproteus|lapt: already installed :\08:48
paulproteus|laptftg2: apt-get build-dep kdebase08:48
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midwinter!wine08:49
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monodramatest08:50
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ftg2bummer. build-dependencies can't be satisfied. using dapper btw and i'm not sure the kde-dev packages are working; using konstruct08:50
gerald-volthow do i mount my flashdrive?08:51
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Mestapheleshi08:54
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Mestaphelesare there security updates put to dapper?08:54
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nboundanyone know a site which mirrors winehq's repository, i wanna download the .deb outside of synaptic so i can get it to run on x6408:56
ajmitchMestapheles: dapper constantly gets updates, but not in the dapper-security repository yet08:56
ajmitchMestapheles: security fixes go in as part of normal development08:56
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ashyghey guys i need some help with my uli ethernet device08:57
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ftg2paulproteus|lapt: i suppose i will have to compile a copy of Xorg as well.. can't find any Xorg related packages ending in -dev that will satisfy this dependency :(08:58
Mestaphelesoh08:58
ashyghttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83710&highlight=ULi+M526108:58
ashygthat's the error i'm getting - i get tx errors with the asrock-939dual motherboard08:58
khermanshow do I compile a static binary with all libs inclusive?08:58
ashygi tried to recompile the kernel08:58
ashygbut it wants gcc-3.4 and i only have 4.008:59
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paulproteus|laptashyg: then apt-get install gcc-3.408:59
paulproteus|lapt(-:08:59
ashygpaulproteus i don't think you understand...08:59
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Mestaphelesajmitch: so I can run dapper without security concerns as far as an ordinary desktop goes.08:59
ashygi can't go online08:59
ashygbecause my ethernet doesn't work08:59
ashygi need to recompile the kernel to get the ethernet working08:59
paulproteus|laptashyg: Hmm.  Can you try downloading a Dapper kernel package?09:00
Mestapheleskool09:00
paulproteus|laptMaybe it'll just have what you need.09:00
Psi-JackHrmmm.09:00
ajmitchMestapheles: yes, though you may run into other problems during development09:00
ashygdapper has it patched in09:00
ashyghow do i install it though, paulproteus09:00
Psi-JackThe mic feedback problem only happends on the emu10k1. When I dsp_hijack it to the via, it works /perfectly/.09:00
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paulproteus|laptashyg: go to packages.ubuntu.com, find the packages you want, and move them by "sneakernet" to the other machine.09:00
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ashygactually the other computer can dual boot to windows so i'll get it in there and save it to the linux drive09:01
Toma-khermans: this might help http://www.trilithium.com/johan/2005/06/static-libstdc/09:01
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ScreaminIkehey. i really need some help09:02
ScreaminIkei have an ntfs partition...09:02
ScreaminIkeand...09:02
Mestaphelesajmitch: does haveing security part of the dev process slow down the rate at which security concerns are addressed or applied?09:02
Toma-!enter09:02
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!09:02
Psi-JackIs there a Firefox 1.5 package available?09:02
nboundanyone know a site which mirrors winehq's repository, i wanna download the .deb outside of synaptic so i can get it to run on x6409:02
ScreaminIkeis there any way to make it ext2 and merge it (same disk) with my ext2 partition?09:02
ajmitchMestapheles: generally not09:02
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ScreaminIkeor just reformat it?09:03
ScreaminIkeand mount it?09:03
omerHello09:03
omerHow can I check which KDE I have?09:03
paulproteus|laptashyg: Even better. (-:09:03
Mestaphelesajmitch: thanks09:03
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ScreaminIkehello?09:04
ftg2omer: try .. dpkg -l kde* .. for a list of packages / version numbers.09:04
ashygScreaminIke: i don't think you can change the type of an already formatted partition09:04
ScreaminIkehow do i reformat it?09:04
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ashygfdisk09:04
ScreaminIkecan you give me a line-by-line walkthrough?09:05
ScreaminIkei don't want to mess it up...09:05
ScreaminIkefdisk (like chmod) i have learned is NOT a toy09:05
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robertbbhaha09:05
robertbbScreaminIke, what do you need to do?09:05
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ashyghey paulproteus do i want the kernel-image file?09:05
nboundanyone know a site which mirrors winehq's repository, i wanna download the .deb outside of synaptic so i can get it to run on x64.... anyone?09:05
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ashygalso which version should i download for an amd64 processor?09:06
NickZAI have installed apache2 do I need to install anything for PHP |09:06
garryI doubt that wine is stable on x64.09:06
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ashyg386, 586tsc, 686, 686-smp, k6, or k709:06
nboundgarry, u can force it to compile to x86 on x6409:07
omerI have kde 3.4.3. I try the update by adding the source to the sourclist and update the key, but nothing update. What can I do?09:07
ScreaminIkei need to make hdb1 ext209:07
darkkyokusanagihow to make a compilation with my kernel is linux-k709:07
ScreaminIke:)09:07
projNickZA: I'm guessing is probably a php module in apt09:07
ScreaminIkeit is currently ntfs09:07
projbut I can't remember09:07
garryHmmm, nix that, I just realized, I, basically forgot, 32 bit stuff runs on 64 bit cpus so I don't know what I'm talkng about. Doh.09:07
ScreaminIkewhich is annoying to say the least09:07
ashygwhich kernel image do i want for an amd64?386, 586tsc, 686, 686-smp, k6, or k709:08
NickZAok thanks ill see if its there09:08
garrynbound yeah, I just wasn't thinkin.09:08
darkkyokusanagii have more errors when i compile a package09:08
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darkkyokusanagi:-/09:08
paulproteus|laptashyg: I'd go with 686 if I were you.09:08
ScreaminIkerobertbb: you there?09:08
nboundwhy shouldnt he go k7?09:08
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robertbbScreaminIke, Yes09:08
paulproteus|laptnbound: I don't recall how similar architecturally the AMD64 CPU is to the original Athlon.09:09
darkkyokusanagii have athlon xp09:09
robertbbScreaminIke, But I will be gone soon, so hurry up and ask your question.09:09
ScreaminIkerobertbb: k. :)09:09
ScreaminIkerobertbb: i have hdb1 as ntfs i need it to be ext209:09
ashygso 686 even though it says for ppro/celeron/pii/piii/p4 smp?09:09
nboundpaulproteus, id imagine theyd have more in common than AMD64 to a P109:09
robertbbsudo fdisk /dev/hdb09:09
ScreaminIke(/dev/hdb1)09:09
paulproteus|laptnbound: 686 == Pentium Pro/II.09:09
g3wnanyone install ubuntu on a acer travelmate 4000?09:09
paulproteus|laptashyg: It doesn't matter much.  686 will do you fine.09:09
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nboundpaulproteus, lol, yeah just realised i put wrong number09:10
gerald-volthow do i mount a flashdrive?09:10
ScreaminIkegotcha09:10
ScreaminIkenow?09:10
robertbbThen within fdisk, hit 'p' and paste what it prints (perhaps in a pm). I will help you in channel though, so others will see.09:10
ftg2omer: you added the source to sources.list, did an apt-get update, then tried apt-get install kde ? because I imagine that would do it, provided the source is correct.09:10
nboundgerald-volt, plug it in09:10
gerald-voltand/09:10
gerald-volti want to know what device it is in /dev09:10
ScreaminIkeDisk /dev/hdb: 60.0 GB, 60022480896 bytes09:10
ScreaminIke16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 116301 cylinders09:10
ScreaminIkeUnits = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes09:10
ScreaminIke   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System09:10
ScreaminIke/dev/hdb1               1      104670    52753648+   7  HPFS/NTFS09:10
ScreaminIke/dev/hdb2          104671      105654      495905    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)09:10
nboundshould do it itself09:10
ScreaminIke/dev/hdb3   *      105655      116301     5366088   83  Linux09:10
ScreaminIke/dev/hdb5          104671      105654      495904+  82  Linux swap / Solaris09:10
garrymine just appear on the desktop gerald-volt09:10
nboundas do mine09:10
omerI try trugh synaptic now. what it mean 5:44? It's the new version?09:11
nboundanyone know where i can get a wine deb outside of synaptic...09:11
ashygso running the 686 one won't break anything? alright09:11
robertbbYou want to change hdb1 to Linux?09:11
ScreaminIkeyea09:11
nboundashyg, nope...09:11
nboundashyg, why dont u run the amd64 version of ubuntu ;)09:11
robertbbScreaminIke, Is the bootloader in the MBR, do you need a second-level bootloader in the superblock of the NTFS partition?09:11
ashygnbound: i do09:11
ashygnbound: but i need the dapper kernel09:11
robertbb(If you don't know, the answer is probably "no")09:12
nboundohhh09:12
ScreaminIkethe bootloader (grub) is ON hdb309:12
ScreaminIkebut it's written on the mbr of hda09:12
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nboundand there isnt one for amd64 yet???09:12
ftg2omer: 3.5.0 is the new version09:12
ashygi didn't see one at packages.ubuntu.com09:12
robertbbOK, too easy. So, in fdisk, type "T"09:12
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ScreaminIkeCommand (m for help): t09:13
ScreaminIkePartition number (1-5):09:13
robertbbThen '1', for partition 1..09:13
ScreaminIkePartition number (1-5): 109:13
ScreaminIkeHex code (type L to list codes):09:13
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ashygokay paulproteus|lapt how do i install the new kernel image?09:13
omerBut waht is it 5:44> And now I tried apt-get install kde and it install now 241 new packages.09:13
robertbbThen, ID 709:13
ScreaminIkewait09:13
ScreaminIkeid 709:13
robertbbSorry.. 8309:13
paulproteus|laptashyg: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb09:13
ScreaminIkeso i type?09:13
robertbbID 7 is NTFS..09:13
robertbbYou type 83, and hit enter.09:14
robertbbthen hit 'p09:14
robertbbAnd it should have changed..09:14
ScreaminIkeso...09:14
ScreaminIkew09:14
ScreaminIke?09:14
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robertbbWait a second, show me what it prints..09:14
ScreaminIkeDisk /dev/hdb: 60.0 GB, 60022480896 bytes09:14
ScreaminIke16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 116301 cylinders09:14
ScreaminIkeUnits = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes09:14
ScreaminIke   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System09:14
ScreaminIke/dev/hdb1               1      104670    52753648+  83  Linux09:14
ScreaminIke/dev/hdb2          104671      105654      495905    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)09:14
ScreaminIke/dev/hdb3   *      105655      116301     5366088   83  Linux09:14
ScreaminIke/dev/hdb5          104671      105654      495904+  82  Linux swap / Solaris09:14
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robertbbOK, should be OK then. Be aware you will lose data on the disk. If you are happy.. 'w' it.09:14
ScreaminIkeyea09:15
robertbbThen, mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb109:15
omerI now notice it 4:3.4.3 again. I abort it.09:15
ScreaminIkeThe partition table has been altered!09:15
ScreaminIkeCalling ioctl() to re-read partition table.09:15
ScreaminIkeWARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy.09:15
ScreaminIkeThe kernel still uses the old table.09:15
ScreaminIkeThe new table will be used at the next reboot.09:15
robertbb(as root, or using sudo)09:15
ScreaminIkeSyncing disks.09:15
ScreaminIkehow do i make the kernel use the new root?09:15
robertbbReboot.09:15
ashygthat's something i noticed, i can't su root in the terminal09:15
ScreaminIke*nod*09:15
robertbbMake sure you update /etc/fstab09:15
robertbbbtw.09:15
ScreaminIkehow do i update THAT?09:16
ashygsudo vi /etc/fstab09:16
robertbbWith a text editor :-)09:16
ashyg;)09:16
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ScreaminIkeand can i mount it to "/home/<usr>/<folder>"?09:16
robertbbYeah, use vi. But if you don't know vi, use that pico clone.. umm...09:16
robertbbnano.. that's it.09:16
Myrttinano09:16
brxashyg: in order to su to root in the terminal root should have a password :)09:17
robertbb:-)09:17
robertbbScreaminIke, You can use whatever you like :-)09:17
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ajmitchScreaminIke: really, *don't* paste huge blocks of text in here09:17
ashygbrx shouldn't it go like $ su root Password: *****?09:17
robertbbYeah, paste the big stuff to me in pm as I asked :-)09:17
ashyglike when you sudo?09:17
sammcneillhi all - installed breezy badger and have an issue with screen resolution09:17
brxashyg: sudo passwd root09:17
sammcneillworked ok on my 17" flat screen at work09:17
ftg2omer: out of curiosity, what line did you add to your sources.list?09:17
NickZAwhere is the root folder for apache ?09:17
sammcneillbut now brought home to 17" and it defaults to 640x 48009:17
sammcneillany ideas?09:17
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robertbbNivkZA: At a guess, /var/www/09:18
NickZAthanks09:18
ScreaminIkesorry about the large blocks of text...09:18
ScreaminIkeso...09:18
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robertbbSomewhere below there.09:18
ScreaminIkethis should all be good?09:18
ScreaminIkejust... reboot?09:18
pepsihow can i get xscreensaver to start from the command line? like the lock screen applet...09:18
robertbbScreaminIke, Have you edited /etc/fstab?09:18
robertbbOK then, ask a question and leave.09:18
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robertbb:-)09:19
omerIt deb-src, it OK?09:19
garryYe need to find out how to enter your horiz and vertical refresh rates into /etc/xorg.conf and how to specifiy the resolution.09:19
Mestaphelesnight all09:19
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cdubya!java09:19
robertbbI'm going for dinner. Hopefully ScreaminIke can make it from here.09:19
sammcneillyeah well interestingly I only want to use it via VNC09:19
robertbbbbl09:19
sammcneilland have a headless connnection garry09:19
sammcneillbut have to log in first with a monitor09:20
sammcneilland as soon as I do that it defaults the resolution to rubbish09:20
ashygpaulproteus the kernel image i downloaded isn't a .dpkg09:20
ashygit's a tarball i extracted it and it has a whole directory structure in it09:20
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs09:20
brxashyg: ubuntu never asked to supply a root password during setup, correct?09:21
ashygbrx it did09:21
ftg2omer: according to http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5668, you should be doing a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' rather than 'apt-get upgrade'09:21
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ashygso how can i install this kernel image?09:21
paulproteus|laptashyg: ...09:21
NickZAI am unable to create a folder under /var/www I am the only/default user setup on this machine09:21
brx.. it didn't for me, ashyg. my memory is rather clear about it since I switched from debian 6 hours ago09:21
omerOK, I try this.09:21
topyliashyg: it doesn't sound like a kernel image at all09:21
paulproteus|laptDownload a .deb file from packages.ubuntu.com.09:21
ashygi downloaded kernel-image-2.4.27-i386-2.4.27.tar.gz09:22
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tkroohi everyone, i'm happy about ubuntu :) my first experience with it today.09:22
g3wnI hope to have a happy experience also09:22
paulproteus|laptashyg: Download a .deb instead.09:22
g3wngonna install it tonight09:22
omerYeah, thats work, thanks a lot, ftg2.09:22
tkroocool, it was easy. i installed it on my mac G4 no problems at all09:23
garrysammcneill Not sure what ye meend by headless connection. Sounds like you are saying, you have a monitor connected through some other means than via the video card?09:23
NickZAanyone know why I dont have write permissions on /var/www ?09:23
topyliashyg: sounds like source for a debian kernel09:23
sammcneillno I have one connected at the moment garry09:23
tkroowell i ran it from the live cd actually.09:23
sammcneillbut eventually I dont want to have a monitor plugged in at all09:23
sammcneillsimply VNC to it using my Mac09:23
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g3wntkroo: nice.. I have a laptop so thats why I'm hoping.... debian didn't like it with the netinst.09:24
sammcneillso I simply want to get the resolution set correctly the first time (1280x1024) and then access it remoetly09:24
garrysammcneill Hmm, sound like its over my head.09:24
brxashyg: you can check in /etc/shadow09:24
sammcneillok thanks garry09:24
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NickZAsammcneill, ive found that vnc'ing to a machine without a monitor will default to 640x480 I couldnt get around that, seemed that ubuntu defaulted to 640x480 if no monitor at boot up09:25
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garrysammcneill good luck with that.09:25
htedromuhh hey all09:25
tkroog3wn, mines a tower. i also made a live cd for a computer my roomie just gave me. a celeron, with only 64MB :( so it won't run09:25
htedromi just installed ubuntu09:25
htedromand...09:25
htedromit never asked for a root password09:25
sammcneillNickZA - ok  but I have a monitor plugged into it at the moment09:25
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htedromnow i'm in gnome, logged into my user account09:25
g3wntkroo: :/09:25
sammcneilland it still defaults to 640x480...09:25
htedromand i don't know the root password09:25
topylisammcneill: sudo dpkg-reconfigurre xserver-xorg09:25
sammcneilllooking in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf at the moment09:25
htedromi feel locked out of my own house09:25
htedromanyone?09:25
sammcneillbut I am not hero at editing that!09:26
NickZAsammcneill, then u'll be fine till reboot (from my experience)09:26
topylisammcneill: choose some nice resolutions and set a default09:26
sammcneillok testing...09:26
majd_is there a way to make the tooltips come up right of the cursor?09:26
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sammcneilltopyli got an error:09:26
majd_it keeps getting in the way09:26
garry!telll htedrom about root09:27
sammcneilldpkg: conflicting actions --control and -remove09:27
garry!tell htedrom about root09:27
omerWhere is the ubuntu 5.10 hardwear suport?09:27
garryevil keyboards09:27
tkroo:)09:27
NickZAok im stumped at phase 1, i want to create a test page but I cant write to /var/www can someone help me pls09:27
Madpilothtedrom: there isn't a root pw - use sudo and your own pw09:27
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htedromno shit.09:27
htedromthat's nutty.09:27
ashygno root pw? what if someone tries to ssh into your computer as root?09:28
htedromyea or what if you like the hash symbol09:28
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Madpilotashyg: technicially I guess there is a root pw, but it's some stupidly long random string AFAIK09:29
fekmoin09:29
topylisammcneill: never seen such a message. i made a typo there btw. should be "dpkg-reconfigure" of course09:29
ashygerror processing kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-686_2.4.27-12_i386.deb package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)09:29
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ashyg:(09:29
tkrooNickZA, you should put your web files into your users site folder? not /var/www/09:29
ashygman, i guess i'm not using ubuntu09:29
topylisammcneill: anyway, i'm not sure if the resolutuion of your X server has anything to do with the resolution you're going to get with VNC09:30
ashyguntil it gets updated to use an up-to-date kernel09:30
ashygbecause this is an absolute pain and i've been working on it for 13 hours straight09:30
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tkrooNickZA, but i don't know what you have set up09:30
sethkashyg, you have to install amd64 headers on an amd64 system09:30
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sethkashyg, it is somewhat involved09:30
ashygsethk there are none at packages.ubuntu.com09:30
sammcneilltopyli ok into reconfig now... but you think the VNC res is always going to be mud?09:30
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sethkashyg, sure there are, I have a 386 system but I see the package in my list09:30
ashygi need the dapper kernel because it has the uli drivers for my ethernet09:30
NickZAtkroo, just installed apache,mysql and php with all its default settings09:30
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topyliashyg: the kernel is for a different architechture. it's also a debian kernel. moreover, why do you want a 2.4 kernel?09:31
ashygsethk i looked through and i don't see any amd64 dapper .deb09:31
tkrooNickZA, ok, so where do you point your browser to look at your webserver root?09:31
ashygi just want the dapper kernel09:31
ashygi don't care, i need the dapper kernel and that's all i want running :(09:31
sethkashyg, ok, that's possible, if I use unreleased software I don't bitch about it not being finished09:31
seliniumnalioth, ping!.....09:31
topylisammcneill: no idea. i think you can set it when you run the vnc server09:31
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NickZAtkroo, simply using local ip address09:31
sammcneillyeah that is waht I thought too09:31
tkrooNickZA, probably localhost or ip, hmmm,09:31
tkroook09:31
ashygsethk then how do i get it running09:32
topyliashyg: ubuntu never had a 2.4 kernel. i doubt dapper will revert to one either. looks like it's going to have 2.6.1509:32
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Madpilotashyg: current in Breezy is 2.6.12-10- -- why are you trying to use a 2.4.x kernel?09:32
sethkashyg, why do you need dapper?  use breezy09:32
sethkashyg, if you need a 2.4 kernel, don't use ubuntu09:32
Toma-quickquick!!! anyone know how to record audio streams from say mplayer-plugin???? my band is about to be on the radio :O09:32
tkroowell on os x there's this directory /Webserver/Documents/  <-- that's where you put your served files09:33
sethkashyg, slackware still ships with a 2.4 kernel, as does one of the debian flavors09:33
ashygsethk jesus dude breezy doesn't have the ethernet driver i need09:33
nboundashyg, AMD64 cpus have probs on 2.4 kernels as well09:33
topyliashyg: which is?09:33
ashygand i was just trying to follow paulproteus' directions to install the kernel09:33
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ashygtopyli: the one for the uli09:33
sethkashyg, sounds like you really aren't a good candidate for ubuntu09:33
topyliashyg: what is "the uli"?09:33
seliniumashyg: ask for help in getting the ethernet driver you need might be a start! :)09:33
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ashygULi m526109:34
naliothselinium: ping?09:34
ashygselinium: they have the driver at the uli.com.tw site but it's a source you need to add to your kernel they said09:34
brxToma-: I believe there is a plugin for xmms which allows you to redirect sound output to a file09:34
Toma-ahhhh of course!09:35
brxToma-: mplayer should be able to do that too. I can't look cause I don't have it installed at the moment.09:35
Toma-ahhh its on :D too late09:36
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brx:)09:36
seliniumMorning nalioth, I was just looking into the affero.com, and your name appeared second from the top. How have you been getting on with it? I was thinking that maybe something similar could be used in the channel?09:36
brxToma-: grab a mic and arecord it!09:36
topyliashyg: so, the tulip driver doesn't work?09:36
Toma-dont have one!09:36
ashygtopyli: correct, it's a known issue in the kernel09:37
Toma-http://www.radiofremantle.com/player.htm09:37
brxToma-: or better, turn off all other sound, setup alsa to record from the mix and arecord09:37
seliniumnalioth, ok09:37
topyliashyg: and it's fixed in 2.6.15?09:37
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NickZAtkroo, the pages that are pulled up be default are located under var/www/apache2-default but I have no access there09:37
chemisusi just installed the server of ubuntu on a computer without a cdrom, and now when i try to install from apt-get, it asks me for the ubuntu cd... are theyre any packages i can install to get around this?09:37
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ftg2chemisus: look at /etc/apt/sources.list .. comment out the cdrom source09:38
chemisusim trying to get build-essential09:38
chemisusok, thanks09:38
ashygtopyli: yes09:38
cdubyaToma-, kewl. :)09:39
Toma-:P09:39
topyliashyg: ok, you could try the dapper kernel but please grab the dapper kernel instead of some old debian one :)09:39
tkrooNickZA, do a search for "index.html.nl" that should reside in the directory you are looking for.    try #apache?09:39
Toma-hopefully they play a song09:39
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Toma-sweet09:39
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ashyglinux-headers-2.6.15-11-amd64-generic_2.6.15-11.16_amd64.deb09:40
viperXCould someone help me out for a sec please?09:40
ashygthat look good, topyli?09:40
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topylino :)09:40
brxToma-: mms://203.59.129.151/RadioFremantle09:40
viperXWhere can I go to download modules from?09:40
brxToma-: that your band playing?09:40
Toma-brx: yep09:40
ashygoh i want the image09:40
ashygnot headers09:40
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topylitry the linux-image package for amd64 from here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/09:40
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NickZAtkroo that page is also under var/www/apache2-default09:40
brxToma-: are you the singer? ;)09:41
chemisus!repos09:41
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource09:41
Toma-nah, bass+backing on this track09:41
Zenso what's the deal--I delete the pictures off my xd card so I can take some new pictures and they disappear, but...the space is still gone?09:41
Toma-s/backing/backing vocals09:41
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htedromhey all...does ubuntu use alsa?09:41
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htedromfor sound?09:41
garryviperX, if ye mean you want to install some apps and stuff use System/Administration/Package Manager.09:41
garryyes it uses alsa09:42
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htedromi'm not getting any sound for my soundblaster09:42
htedrom*from my09:42
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viperXI don't have an internet connection for my Linux box. Is there a site that I can download modules from my iMac and then transfer to my Linux box?09:42
brxToma-: cheesy part.09:42
Mabus06viperX, do you mean packages?09:43
Toma-brx: :D chix dig it09:43
garryhtedrom see what's under System/Preferences/Sound09:43
Toma-its the "awwww thats nice, wanna come home with me" part09:43
viperXNo i mean specific modules, like usb-storage module.09:43
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Toma-wish i could be recording this :/09:44
viperXI also need the modprobe module.09:44
htedromgarry: there's no default sound card09:44
brxToma-: don't you have it in better quality at your computer anyway? :)09:44
brxs/at/on09:44
Toma-yeh09:44
htedromgarry: but when i run the ubuntu live cd, there's sound09:44
Toma-:D09:44
Mabus06viperX, aren't both of those on ubuntu by default?09:44
tkrooNickZA, i'm not sure, srry09:44
topyliviperX: modprobe is not a module. and usb-storage should be in the default ubuntu kernel09:44
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NickZAsigh this is frustrating as I expected09:45
garryhtedrom hmmm, that is very odd. It should have been no problem at all. Do you have an integrated sound on your MB that you have not disabled in addition to the soundblaster?09:45
htedromgarry, negative09:45
cdubyaNickZA, can you get to anything at all when you try to access the web server, or is every page saying you don't have permission?09:45
viperXUmmm, actually I'm suing Suse (don't hate me...), but no one was talking to me in any of the Suse channels, so i thought that I come here, becaue you guys have always been nice to me.09:45
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viperX*using Suse09:46
htedromgarry, it said something about gstreamer when i did the install09:46
NickZAcdubya, the webserver is running fine I just dont have any write access to do anything09:46
garryhtedrom ok, go to a terminal, applications/accessories/terminal and doa  dmesg and see if you find any error messsages.09:46
cdubyaNickZA, give me your definition of write access09:47
majd_how do i add applications to the applications menu?09:47
viperXWhen i enter modprobe in the Terminal, it says command not found. So it has to be something that I have to install.09:47
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Toma-brx: i sing this next one :D09:47
NickZAcdubya, for example I cant create a new .html file or new folder under the root/default web directory09:47
topyliviperX: this is not a very good place for suse support. but i'd think even suse should those things09:47
garryhtedrom Gstreamer is a package that you might need to get/reinstall via System/Administation/Package Manager, in search box search for gstreamer.09:47
viperXusb-storage doesn't seem to be installed either.09:48
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ftg2viperX: modprobe is the kind of thing you run as root.. if you aren't currently root its likely not even in your path.09:48
viperXone sec....09:48
htedromgarry, i'll try that09:48
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garrygood luck with that, I am hoping it works for you.09:48
htedromthis is really screwy09:48
cdubyaNickZA, and you tried to sudo mkdir whatever_you_want_the_dir_to_be and then chowned it to www-data?09:48
htedromroot programs don't launch09:48
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topyliviperX: i guess modprobe just isn't in your path. try "/sbin/modprobe usb-storage". you also need to be root09:49
htedromlike that updates reminder in the top right09:49
htedromit won't give me a dialog to put in the root password09:49
viperXok, let me try that.09:49
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htedromsynaptic won't either09:49
tkroo!rules09:49
ubotuI guess coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/09:49
htedromand nothing happens when itry to  "add application" to the menu09:49
tkrooNickZA, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/core.html#documentroot09:49
NickZAcdubya, well im not using the terminal didnt expect that I would need that was simply using explorer but I will try via terminal09:50
garrystranger and stranger still. htedrom has a soundblaster but the install didn't detect it but said something about gstreamer that flew by too fast to read.09:50
NickZAthanks tkroo will check that, have to go to a 2hr long meeting now :(09:51
tkroocheers09:51
viperXHey that worked! Thanks! :)09:52
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garryhtedrom I wonder if the dialog box is showing up behind some other app that is running. I've seen that before.09:52
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viperXThats sad. I had to come to the Ubuntu channel to get help with the Suse distro09:52
htedromgarry, no, i shaded everything09:52
ubuntusorry to interrupt guys, but did any of you have exprerience setting a broadcom wireless device. Version 5.10 detects it as an uknown device.09:54
garryhtedrom something went wrong installing. Too many things that should not be failing are failing. I suggest reinstall.  also check the /var/log directory for messages09:54
htedromyea i'm looking around /var/log09:54
htedromnot much here09:54
garrynods09:54
viperXtopyli: How would I place modprobe in my path, so that I don't have to 'su -' the next time that I want to do that?09:55
Psi-JackHmmm.09:55
Psi-JackAnyone know how to get an ATI AiW Radeon 8500's TV Tuner to work?09:55
Psi-JackI noticed, Ubuntu's HAL didn't pick it up.09:55
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ademhello i have ethernet also dial up for time been and i wanna setup my dial up09:56
ademcan anyone help me ?09:56
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adem....?????????????09:58
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garryhtedrom as a last resort before reinstalling, might as well try at command line sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade09:58
ftg2viperX: try looking in /etc/profile, to change the default path.. alternatively you can add to the $PATH variable with export.. export PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin .. that change will only hang around until you exit the shell though09:58
htedromi've gotta crash...school tomorrow09:59
htedrombut i'll work this out tmr09:59
viperXoh, ok. I'll try both.09:59
htedromthanks for the help garry09:59
garryOk, gnight, good luck09:59
garryhtedrom welcome09:59
ademgarry can you help me ?09:59
viperXthanks ftg2!09:59
ftg2viperX: also pretty sure a reboot is required for changes to /etc/profile to take effect. not sure about that though09:59
garryadem sorry, I don't know how to set up dialup on linux. DSL here, no dialup.10:00
ademok can anyone else help me10:00
ademthanx anywayz garry10:00
garry!tell adem about dialup10:01
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ademty10:01
garryadem there ye go, the bot should have sent you info on setting up dialup.10:01
ademcheers10:01
garrywelcome10:01
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NickZAmeeting postponed for 2 hrs10:08
Psi-JackAnyone know how to get an ATI AiW Radeon 8500's TV Tuner to work? I noticed, Ubuntu's HAL didn't pick it up.10:09
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NickZAthe doc states that root should be /usr/local/apache/htdocs however this does not exist, also I am not able to create folders under /usr/local ?10:10
wckdkl0wncan someone help me with setting up the newest version of xchat10:10
Seveasnickrud, bad docks10:10
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Seveasdocs even10:10
wckdkl0wni have the deb file10:10
aggressorcan someone help me in winevcs ?10:10
SeveasNickZA, Ubuntu apache2 by default looks in /var/www10:10
Seveas!deb10:10
ubotuTo install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb10:10
Seveas^-- wckdkl0wn10:10
wckdkl0wntryed that10:10
Seveaswckdkl0wn, any error messages? -> on the pastebin10:11
aggressor!wine10:11
wckdkl0wnpastebin?10:11
NickZASeveas, my problem is that I dont seem to have write permissions for /var/www to create new pages/folders ?10:11
Seveaswckdkl0wn, see /topic10:11
SeveasNickZA, sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /var/www10:11
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NickZASeveas, perfect thats done it10:12
wckdkl0wnok pasted10:12
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ulumwehelp! it seems that 6 hours ago a gnome network config tool destroyed the network drivers or something on my breezy installation. for all linux knows, i have no network cards. On top of that, no matter the user account i create, i can't get gnome to start. This is a pretty bad crash and I need help quite desperately. I'd reinstall except i have no way of backing up my home directories without a network connection. help!!10:13
wckdkl0wnSeveas, pasted10:14
ademhello i have ethernet also dial up for time been and i wanna setup my dial up10:14
Psi-JackOh!10:14
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sudharshadem: do u hav a cdma dialup?10:14
sudharshor an ordinary 110:14
Psi-JackApparently Ubuntu has a gatos package, for the ATI AiW TV.. heh10:14
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Seveaswckdkl0wn, download the xchat-common .deb file from the same place you got the xchat .deb file from10:14
ademwhats cdma ?10:14
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Seveaswckdkl0wn, and do the same trick with it (dpkg -i)10:15
ademmy modem is bulit in10:15
sudharshso u r havin an ordianry thingy10:15
adem*built10:15
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wckdkl0wnSeveas, ok i will try it10:15
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sudharshadem: tried System > Administrattion > Networking?10:15
ulumweany chance someone here can help me fix my broken breezy?10:16
sudharshulumwe: what is the problem?10:16
ademyea10:16
ademi did10:16
ulumweit seems that 6 hours ago a gnome network config tool destroyed the network drivers or something on my breezy installation. for all linux knows, i have no network cards. On top of that, no matter the user account i create, i can't get gnome to start. I'd reinstall except i have no way of backing up my home directories without a network connection.10:16
sudharshwhats the problem u r havin there10:16
ademit wont detect my modem10:16
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wckdkl0wnSeveas, is there a way i can use apt-get to get it?10:17
sudharshalrito....try gnome-ppp10:17
sudharshjus configured it now...and it works!10:17
sudharshadem: sudo apt-get install gnome-ppp10:17
ulumweguess not huh10:17
garryulumwe, are you able to ping say www.yahoo.com from the command line and get a response?10:18
sudharshulumwe: well see bout the home trouble10:18
Seveaswckdkl0wn, you could add the repository you got it from to your sources.list10:18
ademk one sec10:18
ademroot@nigga:/home/adem/Desktop# sudo apt-get install gnome-ppp10:18
ademReading package lists... Done10:18
ademBuilding dependency tree... Done10:18
ademE: Couldn't find package gnome-ppp10:18
ademroot@nigga:/home/adem/Desktop#10:18
ulumwegarry: no network card detected, period.10:18
wckdkl0wnSeveas, i dont remember where that is now10:18
sudharshwhats the problem about not getting gnome 2 start10:18
sudharshadem: add repositories10:18
sudharsh!source-o-matic10:18
ubotusudharsh: Wish i knew10:18
majd_why does it say i don't have permission to a folder when i'm root?10:18
ademhow do i add ?10:19
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sudharsh!source.list10:19
ubotusudharsh: Are you smoking crack?10:19
Seveas!easysource10:19
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:19
Seveas!source-o-matic is <reply> see easysource10:19
ubotuSeveas: okay10:19
sudharshadem: try the link ubotu gave now10:19
Seveaswckdkl0wn, I think Ubuntu backport project, but am not sure10:19
sudharshelse wait...10:19
sudharshopen source.list10:19
ademok10:19
majd_why does it say i don't have permission to a folder when i'm root?10:20
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wckdkl0wnSeveas, i am new to linux so i dunno what u mean10:20
phos-phorosubotu sudharsh: Are you smoking crack? ...for a sec there I thought the bot went awol10:21
ubotuphos-phoros: okay10:21
ftg2ah, majd_ was too impatient. i was going to tell him why he might not have permission. ;|10:21
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Seveaswckdkl0wn, then just stick to xchat 2.4...10:21
nizademnot working10:21
majdhey,10:21
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nizademsudharsg10:21
majdi'm trying to copy files to my localhost directory but it says i don't have permissions10:21
Seveas!forget ubotu sudharsh:10:21
ubotuSeveas: i didn't have anything called 'ubotu sudharsh:'10:21
Seveashmm10:21
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NickZAok I have placed both a .php and a .html file under the /var/www/apache-default folder yet when browing to it I get "Not Found" ?10:21
Seveas!forget sudharsh:10:21
ubotui forgot sudharsh:, Seveas10:21
garry!tell ulumwe about networking10:22
Seveassudharsh, by saying that you inadvertedly added something to the bot ;)10:22
tkroohehe, i just got the bots name :)10:22
nizadem sudharsh what next10:22
majdNickZA, it won't let me paste anything either10:22
Seveas!forget actually mp3's10:22
ubotuSeveas: i forgot actually mp3's10:22
garry!tell ulumwe about network setup10:22
nizademi cant setup my dial up10:22
nizadem?10:22
sudharshjus gr8!!!10:22
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NickZAmajd sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /var/www that Seveas gave me at least gave me write access to the folder, try that10:23
NickZAso I now have files there, but apache does not seem to be locating them10:23
sudharshtype 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list10:23
ftg2majd: look at the permissions with ls -l.. just because you are root does not mean the permissions will let you manipulate the file10:23
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tkrooNickZA, find your httpd.conf file10:23
garry!tell ulumwe about network10:23
Toma-NickZA: i think they have to be executable10:23
tkrooand search in that file for DocumentRoot10:24
majdNickZA, am i supposed to replace $USER with something?10:24
NickZAno i didnt10:24
ftg2majd: change them to something sensible with chmod10:24
ulumwethanks garry that has no bearing on my problem10:24
majdawsome10:24
majdthat worked10:24
NickZAsearch doesnt find a httpd.conf file on the system ?10:24
nizademhello i have ethernet also dial up for time been and i wanna setup my dial up10:24
majdthanks ftg2 and NickZA10:25
garryyeah, ubutu is like a box of chocolates, ye never know what yer gonna git.10:25
sudharshtype 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list10:25
tkrooNickZA, :)10:25
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sudharshnizdem: type 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list10:25
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tkrooNickZA, there's gotta be an apache config file somewhere there :)10:25
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majdNickZA, i just got php, mysql, and apache2 workin on ubuntu10:25
NickZAthats the output im gettig from filesystem search10:25
sudharshNickZA: first sudo updatedb10:26
sudharshthen locate httpd.conf10:26
NickZAmajd, same here first installation for me, so far its a pain in the *ass :)10:26
majdweird, it went pretty smooth except for that one problem10:26
majdi just stuck my folder in apache2-default/10:26
ulumweSeveas: you are the most linux educated man in here - can you help me get gnome and networking back? They seem quite literally broken on my breezy installation.10:26
majdthen opened it in firefox10:27
majdsmooth10:27
NickZAlocate returned nothing10:27
sudharshNickZA: u gotta updatedb first10:27
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Seveasulumwe, I can't get into bad problems now, have a meeting shortly10:27
NickZAsudharsh, how do I do that ?10:27
Seveasmaybe later10:27
sudharshsudo updatedb10:27
ulumwei understand :)10:27
KachingoHowdy, I was just wondering, how do I mount a partition?10:27
HClcan anyone help me getting software suspend working with ubuntu?10:27
sudharshKachingo: check te fstab10:28
garryulumwe if you need to save stuff, I'd get a flash drive, el-cheapo, or gparted to create a partition you can save your goodies to and then get them back after reinstall. Then gparted to merge the partition back.10:28
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robotgeekNickZA: for apache2, /etc/apache2/httpd.conf10:29
Kachingosudharsh: fstab?10:29
sudharshKachingo: ya 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab'10:29
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garry!tell Kachingo about fstab10:29
NickZAshould sudo updatedb take a long time ?10:29
NickZAok there its done10:30
ulumwegarry, gparted requires gnome.10:30
sudharshNickZA: takes bout 2 minutes10:30
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sudharshit indexes files in ur pc10:30
NickZAok done that now I find httpd.conf10:30
garryulumwe oh, he's not using gnome. Ok.10:30
majd i just installed mysql, but i don't know what the username and password are10:30
sudharshyup locate httpd.conf10:31
garryroot password blank till you change it last I checked.10:31
NickZAhttpd.conf contains no information10:31
sudharshmajd: i dont think thers a password10:31
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sudharshtry root without a password10:31
majd#2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)10:31
garrybut that was windoze version.10:31
robotgeekNickZA: try apache.conf10:31
tkrooNickZA, if you search in httpd.conf there's a section called DocumentRoot, that should show you the path to your web served directory10:31
majdsudharsh, that has nothing to do with p/w does it/10:31
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flakr=/ i just changed my password and forgot it right away10:32
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sudharshmajd: not username is 'root' and no password10:32
garryOdes of burning hte midnight oil10:32
NickZAno apache.conf10:32
tkroohttpd.conf10:32
ftg2flakr: i did that the other day. you can boot into single user mode and change it.. provided you didn't set and forget a grub password as well.10:32
sudharshNickZA: u sure u installed it rite?10:32
majdsudharsh, that's what i'm using10:32
aggressorCan someone help me ???10:33
sudharshmajd: no no password at first10:33
NickZAsudharsh, I simply did default installation of apache/mysql/php only thing I havent done is rebooted10:33
midwinterwhen I installed ubuntu I put my home dir on a seperate hdd, but now i'm thinking if I reinstall in the future all these configs and stuff in my home dir wont correspond to anything unless I reinstall the same apps..  I suppose I couldn't reinstall and then delete all the hidden stuff? that would break wouldn't it...10:33
aggressorNeed help overhere.. please10:33
garrywe won't know till you ask the question.10:33
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sudharshNickZA: it doesnt matter10:33
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flakrftg2 uhhh10:33
majdsudharsh, i'm not using a password10:33
majdi get this error: #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)10:34
flakrim talking bout my irc apssword10:34
sudharshalrito...chek whether u r havin this /var/www10:34
ftg2flakr: oh lol10:34
sudharshmajd: try running it in safe mode10:34
majdyup :)10:34
majdsudharsh, where would mysql be at ?10:35
NickZAyes I have /var/www and the default apache docs are in /var/www/apache2-default10:35
majdi'm trying to login from phpmyadmin10:35
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sudharshNickZA: try the ls and give the output10:35
timfrostaggressor, tell us your problem, and somebody may respond10:36
tkrooNickZA, you found a file called httpd.conf? and it was empty?10:36
sudharshmajd: goto terminal and see if u r able to connect properly10:36
guillem101mmm, something has changed with nvidia drivers, hasn't it? nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-dev are now obsolete packages??10:36
NickZAhttpd.conf is there with 3 lines commented out10:36
majdtkroo, with apache2, httpd.conf is empty10:36
tkroooh10:36
majdthe config file is apache2.conf10:37
sudharshits not for me10:37
sudharshmajd: oh i installed apache 2 from source10:37
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majdERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)10:37
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sudharshmajd: check the configuration file of phpmyadmin if u r able to connect to mysql through terminal10:37
NickZAah yes I have an apache2.conf file full of data10:37
tkroo:)10:38
sudharshmajd: did u initialize the database10:38
majdsudharsh, that's what i get when i type 'mysql'10:38
sudharsh?10:38
majdsudharsh, don't know how =\10:38
sudharshmajd: open up a terminal10:38
majdok10:38
sudharshtype mysql and <tab>10:38
sudharshit'll show u all commands that starts with mysql10:38
majdk10:39
sudharshlook for something like mysql-init or whatever10:39
sudharshforgot exactly10:39
NickZAwhat do I need to change in apache2.conf ?10:39
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Guard] [anhello10:39
tkrooyou don't need to change anything10:39
sudharshu need not change anythin if u r gonna keep the docs in the default dir10:40
chuggadoes ubuntu's package system have a hard time dealing with change - updates, upgrades and so on?10:40
NickZAmy problem is 404 not found when the file exists10:40
tkroojust look at the line DocumentRoot, that will show you where to put your web files10:40
majdsudharsh, http://pastebin.com/50214010:40
sudharshNickZA: the docs must be readble10:40
sudharshokie dokie10:40
Guard] [ani'm new to ubuntu, i just ran the update manager which told me to run synaptic to complete the upgrade, however synaptic says it needs to remove xubuntu-desktop :( should i proceed ???10:40
aggressor!timfrost, have u ever downlaod games is linux-gamers.net, if i gonna install that gonna ask CD10:40
sudharshbrb10:40
Toma-Guard] [an: yep10:40
tkroowell, if you haven't set up php yet, you may need to change somethings. but i'm not familiar with apache2 so imma be quiet :)10:41
majdok10:41
Guard] [anwill it install xubuntu-desktop again ?10:41
NickZAthere is no documentroot entry only serverroot10:41
majdnickza, my guess is you simply typed it wrong10:41
majdwhat url are you using?10:41
Toma-Guard] [an: you'll still have everything xubuntu-desktop gave you (xfce etc.)10:41
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timfrostaggressor, I don't use linux-gamers.ner.  Hopefully somebody who does can assist you10:41
Toma-Guard] [an: its called a meta-package. doesnt contain anything10:42
Guard] [anoh10:42
Guard] [anok10:42
Toma-aggressor: what are u trying to do?10:42
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Guard] [anproceeding then :)10:42
sudharshNickZA: u gotta do some changes in the index10:42
nelpostohmmm hmm .. what is /proc?10:42
aggressorToma- , trying 2 install game10:42
Toma-aggressor: what game?10:42
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aggressorToma- , in linux-gamers.net10:43
garry!tell nelposto about /proc10:43
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majdnickza, this is what i used to access my site: http://localhost/apache2-default/cip/10:43
aggressorToma/ ,tacticalops-3.1.5-install-x86.run10:43
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NickZApermisions on doc is already read10:43
aggressortoma- , if i type sh tacticalops-3.1.5-install-x86.run it gonna ask CD10:43
ownertactical ops is old10:43
Toma-aggressor: yep.10:43
ownerplay true combat elite10:43
ownerway better10:43
sudharshmajd: try /etc/init.d/mysqld start10:43
weekanghi, wondering if anyone can help with getting scilab working on a breezy install?10:43
garryProc is a directory that shows informatin about file systems, cpu stats, devices, and other stuff about what linux detectedon your system.10:43
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sudharshNickZA: i hav a walkthrough for installing from source...want em?10:44
NickZAmajd, u made the cip directory correct ?10:44
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weekangi tried both apt-get and standalone binary but both don't work10:44
aggressorToma- , i just wanna test,10:44
Toma-aggressor: have you got the CD?10:44
NickZApls sudharsh10:44
Kachingowhere am I meant to put the diskmounter file?10:44
nelpostothanks garry .. see I'm trying to give my laptop hibernation ability with suspend2 .. and I think there are supposed to be some files in /proc10:44
nelpostobut they're not there10:44
aggressorToma- , nope i downloaded that10:44
ownertrue combat elite mod for enemy territory is free10:44
sudharshdrop me ur email id?10:44
majdNickZA, yeah10:44
garrynelposto good luck with that. Some have been having "Funstration" with suspend.10:45
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majdsudharsh, me?10:45
nelpostogarry oh, i've had alot more than funstration with this little suspend thing10:45
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weekangcan someone help me with getting scilab to work on ubuntu?10:45
garrynelposto yep,.10:45
nelpostobut i've had it working before, and now I've reformatted .. and :'( CRYS10:45
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sudharshmajd: i meant NickZa10:45
garrywell gnight all10:45
majdoh10:45
sudharshmajd: try /etc/init.d/mysqld start10:45
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majdsudharsh there's no mysqld file in init.d10:46
majdor do you mean type in terminal?10:46
aggressorToma- , ill try 2 download enemy territoy10:46
Seveasit's called mysq;10:46
Seveasmysql even...10:46
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sudharshk now try 'top' and see if the server is running10:46
majdthere's nothing starting with my10:46
NickZAsudharsh, u get it ?10:46
grayhanetrying to rip with grip,   invalid encoder executable. check encoder config and ensure it specifies the full path to the executable.10:46
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Toma-aggressor: i can only help u with legit installs. :( moral reasons10:46
sudharshno i didnt10:46
g3wnanyone have a link for setting up a Intel Pro/Wireless 2200BG network card?10:47
sudharsh!wireless10:47
uboturumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards10:47
sudharshg3wn: try the link ubotu gave now10:48
NickZAmajd, if I point browser to localhost it reads the contents of the index that is in the default folder, put if I place my own document in the default folder I get not found10:48
sudharshNickZA: what do u mean index.html ones?10:48
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g3wnthank you sudharsh10:48
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majdNickZA, weird, i just dragged my site into apache2-defalut and acessed it through http://localhost/apache2-default10:49
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NickZAnod, but I got it working now, pointing to localhost goes to /var/www and not to /apache2-default10:49
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sudharshNickZA: u installed debian pakages?10:50
robotgeekg3wn, check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto for tips on setting your wireless up10:50
NickZAsudharsh, nod direct from synaptic10:50
NickZAseems to be working fine now though10:50
sudharshokie dokie :)10:50
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g3wnrobotgeek: nice, thanks10:51
sudharshmajd: is the mysql process running?10:51
NickZAhttp://localhost/apache2-default/hello.php worked as opposed to http://localhost/hello.php10:51
sudharshof course dats the document root10:52
NickZAso I assume that means my php is working correctly too10:52
sudharshyup:10:52
sudharsh:)10:52
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NickZAhow can I test that mysql is working ?10:53
sudharshyeah..10:53
sudharshd/l phpmyadmin10:53
sudharshand if it works evrythin is alrito10:53
tkrooNickZA, you can create a php file with this in it: <?php phpinfo() ?>10:53
tkrooand look at it in your browser, it will show you all kinds of info10:54
NickZAok let me try that quick10:54
topyliNickZA: telnet to localhost:330610:54
tkroomodules loaded etc... you should see mysql in there10:54
sudharsh<?php phpinfo(); ?>10:54
sudharshdont forget the semi colon10:54
sudharshmajd: i think this might interst u majd10:55
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sudharshhttp://docdb.fnal.gov/doc/mysqld.html10:55
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majdsudharsh,  Unknown(/var/www/apache2-default/phpinfo.php): failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 010:56
majdWarning: (null)(): Failed opening '/var/www/apache2-default/phpinfo.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in Unknown on line 010:56
NickZAconnect failed and nothing showed up on the page with <?php phpinfo() ?>10:57
sudharshmajd: what was the contenst of the php file10:57
majdi can't edit the text files cause they'r all read only10:57
majd<?php phpinfo(); ?>10:57
sudharshu gotaa make em executable10:57
ownermajd edit them as sudo10:57
majdhow?10:57
sudharshmajd: u gotta make em world executbale10:57
pfarmer.php files don't need to be executable10:58
ownerjust type sudo gedit10:58
sudharshusing good ol chmod10:58
majdah10:58
majdnow it worked10:58
majdi get the good old phpinfo page10:58
ownerchmod wont change file permissions10:58
majdi changed chmod to 75510:58
sudharsh:)10:58
sudharshdont make em worl writable though10:58
pfarmermajd: do a chmod 644 on the file - it doesn't need to be executable10:58
sudharsh:P10:58
sudharshpfarmer: oh really..i could be rong10:59
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sudharshmajd: try as pfarmer sugested10:59
pfarmersudharsh:  only cgi's need to be executable - apache parses the php file, so it only needs to be readable by the apache process10:59
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sudharshoh ok...i didnt know dat thanks11:00
NickZAok I have all the php information displayed on my page now with <?php phpinfo(); ?> so mysql is working ?11:00
sudharshNickZA: not necessarily11:00
sudharshtry connecting to the database11:00
NickZAhehe ok my question was how do I test is mysql is working11:00
sudharsh'mysql' in terminal11:01
NickZAaccess denied11:01
sudharshsudo mysql11:01
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NickZAERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'nick@localhost' (Using password: NO)11:01
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topyliNickZA: works :)11:01
NickZAok I get a welcome message11:02
sudharshokie dokie,...its workin11:02
sudharshgood theres no password by default11:02
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HClcan anyone help me install software suspend 2 in ubuntu? or help me compile the ubuntu kernel sources? where can i find the configuration ubuntu uses for its kernel by default?11:02
NickZAok so thats all there, now I just have to figure out how to use it11:02
robotgeekHCl: /boot/config-blah11:02
HClah.11:03
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HClthanks.11:03
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sudharshHCl: try this link11:03
sudharshhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8506411:03
sudharshthers a gr8 HOWTO11:03
sudharshNickZA: d/l some thin that uses lamp11:03
sudharshlike wordpress11:03
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sudharshand start rokin!11:04
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weekangis there a way to mute/disable my pc speaker from within ubuntu?11:04
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robotgeeksudharsh: if he apt-get's wordpress, it would install a lamp system, lol11:04
majdi'm jealous11:05
majdmy mysql doesn't work11:05
sudharshrobotgeek: i thought wordpress aint in the repos11:05
sudharshi used the tarball11:05
robotgeekweekang: yes, type alsamixer and mute your pc speaker11:05
weekangcool thx robotgeek!11:05
robotgeeksudharsh: an old version, but you would get all the dependencies :)11:05
sudharshmajd: see if thers a mysql process goin on11:05
sudharshoh yeah...dats y i dont always trust synaptic11:06
sudharshmajd: is it there?11:07
majdsudharsh, i put mysql -u root -p password '<newpassword>'11:07
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majdand it gave me a whole bunch of stuff11:07
sudharshmajd: gr811:07
sudharshu must be in the mysql> prpmt11:07
sudharshthen11:08
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NickZAshould I worry that I cant telnet to localhost:3306 ?11:08
ScreaminIkehey hey hey11:08
ScreaminIke:) ihm... got another question...11:08
ScreaminIkehow do i change the OWNER of a set of files using chmod?11:08
sudharshuse chown11:08
ScreaminIkechown11:08
sudharshchown <user> <file>11:09
sudharshchgrp for groups11:09
ScreaminIke511:09
ScreaminIkesweet11:09
sudharsh:D11:09
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ScreaminIkechown (user) *11:09
omer_07i have a problem with Lexmark  X1195 multifunctional printer in linux can you help me?11:09
ScreaminIkechmod 7766 *11:10
majdsudharsh, i still can't use mysql though11:10
ScreaminIkethat ROX11:10
pfarmerScreaminIke:  you can use "-R" to recursively change the owner of a group of files and the directories beneath it - see "man chown"11:10
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sudharshmajd: try 'top'11:10
sudharshand see if the server is running in the first place11:11
pfarmermajd:  do a "ps -eaf | grep mysql"11:11
majdthis is what i get: http://pastebin.com/50216411:11
majdpfarmer, majd     16394 15637  0 05:12 pts/0    00:00:00 grep mysql11:12
majdthat's what i get11:12
sudharshyay ur mysql is workin11:12
majdreally?11:12
sudharshk now its time to do some admin stuff11:12
ScreaminIke511:12
ScreaminIkethat ROX11:12
pfarmermajd:  mysql isn't running11:12
majdwhat?11:13
pfarmermajd:  Do an "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start"11:13
simakSeveas is god.11:13
NickZAi am installing phpmyadmin now, what is its path majd ?11:13
majdsudo: /etc/init.d/mysql: command not found11:13
sudharshNickZA: install it in doc root11:13
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majdjust localhost11:14
sudharshmajd: isnt dat mysqld11:14
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pfarmermajd:  You don't have the mysql server installed11:14
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sudharshyeah ofcourse....u hav only the client11:14
tkroomajd, try mysqladmin -u root -p status11:14
pfarmermajd:  Do a "sudo apt-get install mysql-server"11:15
majdooooh11:15
sudharsh....:P11:15
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ScreaminIkeman... hey, anyone know about gnaughty?11:15
ScreaminIke511:15
omer_07i have a problem with Lexmark  X1195 multifunctional printer in linux can you help me?11:15
sudharshmajd: lol11:15
sudharshomer_07?: yea11:15
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majdpfarmer, it opened up post-fix configuration11:16
majdand i'm really scared11:16
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majd:(11:16
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majdlocal or internet site?11:16
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majdi don't know what it means =\11:16
sudharshwell..i think local11:16
devwalDoes anyone know of a way to repartition in OSX without reformatting?11:17
pfarmermajd:  The computer your working on - are you going to be receiving email from the internet on it?11:17
sudharshmajd save urselvs the trouble and download the mysql from the website11:17
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majdit worked!11:17
sudharshi mean the mysql website...its pretty much integrated11:17
pfarmermajd:  ignore sudhurst - install the package11:17
omer_07sudharsh: i can see it on usb, i add printer, system recognizes printer but i couldn't get paper from printer.  i can see document in kjobviewer, after -10 second it says aborted. How can i solve this?11:18
majdit alllllll worke11:18
majdthank you guys so much11:18
sudharshnvr ,mind....../:911:18
majdlol11:18
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takedown_hi there, guys someone know how i can do replace like s/something/s0mething/g in openoffice?11:18
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sudharshomer_07: so u dont get any resonse from the printer side11:19
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HClcan anyone tell me whether ubuntu has a kernel with software suspend build in, maybe in ubuntu dapper...?11:19
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omer_07sudharsh : yes i can get no result11:19
sudharshtry restartin cups11:20
NgHCl: it should be built into breezy's kernel, it just doesn't work very well on most machines11:20
HClNg: hibernate simply states my kernel isn't supporting it..11:20
sudharshr u usin kde11:20
sudharshHCl: starnge..it works for me11:20
nelpostoyay11:20
HClYour kernel does not have any recent Software Suspend 2 support compiled in.11:20
HClPlease follow the HOWTO linked from http://softwaresuspend.berlios.de/ for11:20
HClinstructions on how to compile Software Suspend into your kernel.11:20
HClhibernate: Aborting.11:20
nelpostosomeone else who is having trouble with hibernate11:20
nelpostoi'm not the only one11:20
HCli'm using 2.6.12-10-k711:21
nelpostoHCl you have to compile suspend2 into your kernel11:21
HClis it the k7 specialization?11:21
ztrek7Would someone assist me in troubleshooting gedit, or sudo, don't know which one, I try to run sudo gedit /whatever/textfile and the terminal pretends to launch gedit, but it doesn't, and after a LONG time, I get a popup error, application has quit unexpectedly.11:21
HClnelposto: i'm trying, but suspend2 fails to patch cleanly against the ubuntu 2.6.12 source11:21
ajmitchHCl: please don't paste like that11:21
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HClajmitch: sorry11:21
nelpostoHCl: are you using the right suspend2 patch? you need the patch for your version 2.6.12 ..11:22
sudharshHCl: this might sound weird.....what bout ur video n all..11:22
HClsudharsh: what kernel do you use?11:22
sudharsh2.6.1511:22
HClsoftware-suspend-2.1.9.9-for-2.6.12.tar.bz211:22
HClthats the one i tried to apply11:22
HCluh, is that a dapper kernel or what?11:22
sudharshbut it worked with the default installation11:22
nelpostoHCl, ok .. no .. have you read the guide on ubuntuforums.org?11:22
HClnope.. didn't see one..11:23
sudharshHCl: i use the vnills11:23
Psi-JackHCl: Hmm. I've seen you somewhere..11:23
sudharsh*vanilla11:23
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nelpostoHCl, that looks like the correct patch .. but http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7544311:23
ajmitchnelposto: you don't need to patch the kernel for suspend to work, generally11:23
sudharshk me bailin off11:23
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Ngwell hibernate seems to work in the default breezy kernel here11:24
Psi-JackWow.. Konversation really gets bogged down with a large scrollback buffer, doesn't it?11:24
nelpostoajmitch, this is for suspend2 .. which is the hibernate that HCl is trying to initiate (check the error message)11:24
Ng(selected from the logout window)11:24
devwalDoes anyone know of a way to repartition in OSX without reformatting?11:24
nelpostoajmitch i think that the default hibernation that comes with ubuntu doesn't work very well for many setups (mine ..)11:24
ajmitchand I don't know why HCl wants to try that - it's not included for some good reasons :)11:24
tkroodevwal, i want to know that too. i don't think it's possible with HFS format11:24
HClah, great, thanks11:25
Psi-JackWow.. Linux has hibernate support now?11:25
HCla special version of suspend2 for the ubuntu source11:25
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ajmitchPsi-Jack: it has for awhile11:25
nelpostoHCl, yeah.. it only goes with 2.6.12 kernel though I think11:25
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HClyea, thats fine :)11:26
Psi-Jackajmitch: Hmmm. I've been out of the loop a few years.11:26
nelpostoI can't understand why the required software suspend files haven't ended up in /proc for me11:26
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rixth!info firefox11:27
ubotufirefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 (breezy), Packaged size: 8268 kB, Installed size: 23932 kB11:27
rixthAny sign of 1.5 soon?11:27
Psi-Jack!firefox1.511:27
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion11:27
devwaltkroo: this is a bummer11:27
Psi-JackBesides that? Dunno.11:27
devwali can't reformat :(11:27
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Ngsuspending doesn't work so much, it crashed on resume11:28
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manila_kidelo... ne1 wanna help me? m an ubuntu newbie... i wish to ask some questions11:28
tkroodevwal, iPartition11:28
manila_kidhow do i connect to the net using a dialup connection?11:28
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simakmanila_kid,  what have you tried?11:29
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manila_kidi went to System > Admin > Networking11:30
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redguy|work!tell manila_kid about dialup11:30
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Ngnnot that I need either suspend or hibernate ;)11:31
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hawkingI want to change my keyboard but when I do setxkbmap tr it says : "Error loading new keyboard description" what packages should i reinstall?11:33
yosefhow do I know if my swap is active?11:33
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ScreaminIke:) i LOVE gnaughty11:33
ScreaminIkeit's like... porn-get11:33
ScreaminIkeeveryone, right now. go download gnaughty.11:34
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ScreaminIkeit's a debian package11:34
ScreaminIkefrom SF.net11:34
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manila_kidhmm11:35
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manila_kidits hard to understand but i will try11:35
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Psi-JackUgh11:36
Psi-JackIs there a mirror for seveas's packages?11:36
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wartyhello11:36
Psi-JackThat's NOT down while he's asleep? :-/11:36
Ngthere is11:36
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NgI'm not sure what it is though11:36
wartycan u tell me11:36
Ngthis is the risk you run when you use third party repositories. they really aren't a good idea11:36
Psi-JackNg: Well, I only need the Win32 codecs.11:37
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wartyoki11:37
warty: )11:37
NgPsi-Jack: you can grab the .deb from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs11:38
topylidoes nautilus-sendto via bluetooth work to _anyone_?11:40
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ztrek7Would someone assist me in troubleshooting gedit, or sudo, don't know which one, I try to run sudo gedit /whatever/textfile and the terminal pretends to launch gedit, but it doesn't, and after a LONG time, I get a popup error, application has quit unexpectedly.11:40
ztrek7i just reinstalled it via synaptic11:40
ztrek7i think it has something to do with sudo11:40
ztrek7i can run gedit fine, with no sudo command11:40
ztrek7anyone, anyone, bueler?bueler?11:40
ztrek7i am guessing it is a permissions thing11:40
ztrek7** (gedit:10782): CRITICAL **: gedit_mdi_set_state: assertion `GEDIT_IS_MDI (mdi)' failed11:41
ztrek7this gets outputed in terminal after it does not launch11:41
ztrek7along with a bunch of other crap11:41
ztrek7can someone just post a hi or something, let me know i am connected alright11:41
ztrek7a sorry, i don't know about that issue11:41
ztrek7could be talking to myself11:41
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AlfaScorpiihello11:41
Ngztrek7: most gtk applications print out errors like that, it's generally not too serious11:41
docta_vztrek7: try running "xhost +" first11:42
AlfaScorpiii have a problem11:42
Ngztrek7: try gksudo gedit11:42
pfarmerAlfaScorpii:  shoot11:42
AlfaScorpiiwith my ubuntu 64 and firefox plugins11:42
AlfaScorpiido i have to install ubuntu 32?11:42
AlfaScorpiicoz the same problems with other aplications like mplayer11:42
ztrek7k11:43
NgAlfaScorpii: if you want to use things like 32bit media codecs you will need to use the 32bit ubuntu or set up a 32bit chroot and run firefox/mplayer from that11:43
pfarmerAlfaScorpii:  I would suspect that most of the firefox plugins are 32bit11:43
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rastakidhi there11:43
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AlfaScorpiiNg: thanks11:44
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rastakidI recently installed Ubuntu Breezy Badger and everything is fine except that I'm missing stdlib.h and the other header files from /usr/include. Does anyone know which package to install?11:44
AlfaScorpiipfarmer: thanks11:44
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ztrek7(gedit:12943): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:11:44
ztrek7Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.11:44
AlfaScorpiiill install unbuntu 32 then11:44
ztrek7when gksudo gedit11:44
majdhow would i go about restarting apache?11:45
pfarmerrastakid:  install libc6-dev11:45
AlfaScorpiiNg: i have other question11:45
pfarmermajd:  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart11:45
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ztrek7after jfgi, i found this https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+bug/339811:45
AlfaScorpiiNg: how can i install ubuntu 32 with only kde? dont like gnome11:46
NgAlfaScorpii: get kubuntu11:46
rastakidpfarmer, ah, thank you :)11:46
pfarmerrastakid:  np11:46
ztrek7reported, but uncomfirmed, and it looks like conversation is just cut off11:46
AlfaScorpiiNg: but with get ubuntu ill have gnome too11:46
ztrek7don't know if it is or not11:46
NgAlfaScorpii: so get kubuntu11:46
Ngit has kde as the default desktop11:47
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ztrek7finally launched gedit though, but did not open file11:47
AlfaScorpiiNg: so gnome it has to be in u buntu?11:47
majdthanks pfarmer11:47
pfarmermajd:  np11:47
AlfaScorpiiNg: sorry about my english11:48
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kieranhello guys11:48
AlfaScorpiihello kieran11:48
rixth!fat32 write11:48
uboturixth: Did you get hit by a windmill?11:48
NgAlfaScorpii: kubuntu still has access to gnome, if that's what you mean? you can install gnome applications if you want to, it just uses kde by default instead11:49
AlfaScorpiiNg: ok thanks my friend11:49
lockheadwhats the url for the webmin installed on my system, thought it was localhost:1000011:49
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ztrek7lockhead, it is, https://127.0.0.111:50
lockheadaaa, ok11:50
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ztrek7default user is root11:50
kieranhey guys11:50
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hawkingwhat is the name of the package that has keyboard layouts? my setxkbmap command doesn't wokr11:50
kieranwondering if you guys have the list for the repos11:50
lockheadhmm, connection refused11:51
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lockheadthat's wierd. syntapic tells me i dont have webmin installed. but /usr/local/webmin exists11:53
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lockheadwith alot of files in it11:53
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hawkingwhat is the name of the package that has the keyboard-layouts?11:53
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pfarmerlockhead:  webmin doesn't install into /usr/local11:56
Psi-JackSpeaking of keyboard layouts. Can I finally actually /FULLY/ use my Logitech Coordless Freedom, and all it's multimedia buttons?11:56
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muyambaGUYS I AM NEW TO LINUX AND UBUNTU. I NEED HELP WITH DISPLAY DRIVERS11:56
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Psi-Jackmuyamba: STOP SHOUTING! THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO GET HELP!11:57
muyambaokay!!11:57
kieranhehe11:57
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kierananyone know what the link to wiki is for the extra repos?11:57
muyambaPsi - Jack, Please help man11:58
pfarmerPsi-Jack:  use xev to find the keycodes for the multimedia keys and then make a ~/.Xmodmap file with some key mappings11:58
Psi-Jackmuyamba: Ask the channel a specific question. You have yet to even do that.11:58
cello_raspthere seems to be a problem with the network-admin tool - i want to purge all config info as it seems that changing 'locations' or trying to add new ones causes it to crash.11:58
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Psi-Jackpfarmer: By chance, you got a website that explains that, off-hand? I'm a little bit rusty on things.11:58
pfarmerPsi-Jack:  its pretty simple11:59
pfarmerPsi-Jack:  run xev and press one of the multimedia keys11:59
pfarmerPsi-Jack:  look for the keycode output11:59
pfarmerPsi-Jack:  then in ~/.Xmodmap put something like "keycode 200=F13"12:00
muyambaOKAY PSI - JACK. My resolution is just 480 x 600 and am a windows guy who wants better resolution12:00
pfarmerPsi-Jack:  and then the key you pressed to get the keycode 200 will be mapped to F1312:00
Psi-Jackpfarmer: Problem is. I'm not getting any keycodes.12:00
Psi-JackOr at least some aren't.12:01
robotgeekcello_rasp: better get network-manager, network-admin doesn't work very well12:01
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pfarmercan you pastebin the output for me?12:01
lockheadpfarmer, err, darn12:01
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lockheadhad to do it the old way, using mysql12:01
cello_rasprobotgeek: so much for ubuntu "stable"12:01
hawkingwhenever I want to load a new keyboard layout with setxkbmap I get this error "Error loading new keyboard description" I think my keyboard layout descriptions are corrupt. what is the package that has the keybord layouts? I should reinstall it.. or does anyone has any other idea?12:01
Psi-Jackpfarmer: Some of them, like the Webcam button, is actually maximizing the xev window. heh12:02
robotgeekcello_rasp: it's just not very suitable for location switching, network-manager is very very good12:02
pfarmerPsi-Jack:  then some of the keys are already mapped :)12:02
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muyambaPsi-Jack. Talk to me about improving my resolution from 480 x 600 pls12:03
Psi-Jackpfarmer: Must be KDE already sorta mapping them. In a nasty way.12:03
Psi-Jackmuyamba: I said ASK THE CHANNEL, not me. :p12:03
robotgeekPsi-Jack: check System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layout12:03
rixthCan one convert from FAT32 to ext3 without losing data?12:03
rixthI guess not12:03
Psi-Jackrixth: No.12:03
robotgeekmuyamba, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:03
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rixthPsi-Jack, I have all my data on a fat32 partition and I cannot excute any scripts. Is that normal?12:04
Psi-Jackrixth: Uhh. Yeah.12:04
cello_rasprobotgeek: apparently i have it installed already. how do i launch it?12:04
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robotgeekcello_rasp: alt + f2 -> nm-applet --sm-disable12:04
Psi-Jackrixth: IIRC, vfat partitions are not set to allow executing from, by default.12:05
muyambaROBOTGEEK, please am not a pro, so be basic to me12:05
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rixthPsi-Jack, I have monkied with /etc/fstab, but I musn't have set that option. I'll look into it12:05
Psi-Jackmuyamba: He was. He told you exactly what to do.12:05
robotgeekmuyamba: do that in a terminal12:05
Psi-Jackrixth: kk. :)12:05
muyambaRobot -  Kindly guide me somehow man otherwise am generally enjoying ma self12:06
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cello_rasprobotgeek: or sudo nm-applet --sm-disable ?12:06
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robotgeekcello_rasp: no sudo12:06
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zethciao12:07
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cello_raspah. thanks. i dunno what that just did but i hope it was for the better?12:07
robotgeekcello_rasp: you need the daemon to be running for it to work, sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager (or something similiar) restart12:07
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manila_kidhi! re scanModem, where should I email d ModemData.txt?12:08
robotgeekcello_rasp: do you see a nice applet in your systray?12:08
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manila_kidits hard to understand but i will try12:09
manila_kidhi! re scanModem, where should I email d ModemData.txt?12:09
cello_raspno.. i couldn't find /etc/init.d/network-manager12:09
cello_rasponly /etc/init.d/networking12:09
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HClcan anyone tell me whether ubuntu dapper's 2.6.15 has software suspend 2 built in?12:10
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muyambarobot, are you saying that i should type that then save or what man, pls12:10
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HCland if not, where could i find  a software suspend 2 patch for it?12:10
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robotgeekcello_rasp: okay, do this "sudo apt-get install --reinstall network-manager"12:10
Psi-Jackmuyamba: Please don't continue to troll here.12:11
robotgeekmuyamba: open up a terminal, Accessories -> Terminal12:11
muyambaokay12:11
muyambathen12:12
cello_rasprobotgeek: i don't understand it, according to spm netowrk-manager is installed, yet apt-get said otherwise.12:12
robotgeekmuyamba, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' in a terminal12:12
robotgeekcello_rasp: it was installed, we just reinstalled it. type "nm-applet --sm-disable" in a terminal, and observe output.12:13
cello_rasprobotgeek: ok, it's installed via apt-get yet i *still* cannot find it in init.d12:13
Psi-Jackrobotgeek: Heh, hmmm.. Would that actually work in a terminal? Reconfiguring X?12:13
muyambaAlright, Robot i have typed that sudo statement, then?12:13
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robotgeekcello_rasp: maybe they changed that part, it's okay12:14
devwalI could use some help figuring out how to install Ubuntu on my powerbook12:14
cello_rasprobotgeek: BAM! thank you12:14
Psi-Jackmuyamba: FOllow the directions.12:14
robotgeekPsi-Jack: should work, no reason not to work :)12:14
muyambaDo i enter after typing the sudo thing?12:14
devwalIf I am installing on an external firewire drive, does there need to be a copy of OSX on the external drive also?12:14
devwalOr just empty partitions to use?12:15
Psi-Jackrobotgeek: Heh yeah.. :) I just remembered, it's a text-only config tool.12:15
cello_raspi love network-manager. network-manager is my friend. why is not network-manager in breezy12:15
robotgeekmuyamba: yes12:15
Psi-Jackmuyamba: If you're going to troll, just leave. Now.12:15
robotgeek!cli12:15
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org12:15
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robotgeekmuyamba: read those links for a basic understanding12:15
robotgeekPsi-Jack: don't be so critical :)12:15
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Psi-Jackrobotgeek: Well.. "Do I hit enter", is a quick sign of someone just trolling.12:16
devwalWhat type of partition does Ubuntu need on OSX?12:16
robotgeekPsi-Jack: oh well :)12:16
devwalLinux?12:16
muyambaok, its asking for password12:16
robotgeekdevwal: OSX uses HFS+, Linux can read (and write) to it. Linux by default uses ext312:17
devwalrobotgeek: I am confused by this mini tutorial I am reading -- It says to install a copy of OSX onto the new partition12:17
muyambaROBOT-GEEK YOU ARE COOL, actually am enjoying da shouts from Psi-Jack12:18
devwalif the new partition isn't HFS+, then how do I do that12:18
robotgeekdevwal: i've never actually tried what you are attempting to do, let me know if it goes well12:18
muyambaRobot it has asked me for password, so what next???12:18
cello_raspstop trolling muyamba!!!! ;)12:18
robotgeekmuyamba: if you don't type my name correctly, there is a good chance that i might never read your comments12:18
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tafsenCan you use Nautilus to draw the desktop, and still get the OpenBOX menu when you right click on the background?12:18
robotgeektafsen: can't have both, apparently12:19
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tafsenrobotgeek: So if I won't OpenBOX and icons I need rox?12:19
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robotgeektafsen: icons..hahaha! yes12:20
muyambarobotgeek: okay i promise cello_rasp is up in arms too, so waht next about password??12:20
tafsenrobotgeek: what's funny?12:20
devwalrobotgeek could i have your expertise and undivided attention for like, say, 7 minutes when you get a chance?12:20
robotgeekdevwal: not an expert, just a normal user :)12:20
fli7ewhats a good, addicting game for linux that doesn't require a ton of commitment?12:20
cello_raspfli7e: stones12:20
robotgeektafsen: usually ppl install openbox to get away from all that12:20
nightswimnethack12:21
fli7ecello_rasp, gnome-stons?12:21
muyambarobotgeek: what password do i enter12:21
devwalBallDroppings12:21
robotgeekmuyamba: your user password12:21
robotgeekubotu: tell muyamba about sudo12:21
cello_raspfli7e: yeah, for gnome - stones in the KOBAN mode12:21
cello_raspoh god, koban.12:21
robotgeektafsen: plus, i havent seen icons on desktop for quite sometime now12:22
tafsenrobotgeek: hehe :)12:22
fli7ecello_rasp, i appear to be pushing crates of tea into red squares12:22
devwalrobotgeek: I have my internal drive with OSX installed on it, and my external drive that is just HFS+ with no OSX system installed on it, the tutorial I am reading says you install OSX on the 2nd partition you make if you are doing it on your internal drive, do you think it's possible to install OSX on top of the data that already exists on my 2nd drive?  I am so freakin' confused12:22
fli7ecello_rasp, i'll be back in 2 years or so12:22
fli7ethanks12:22
cello_raspfli7e: it gets harder. much harder12:22
hawkingwhenever I want to load a new keyboard layout with setxkbmap I get this error "Error loading new keyboard description" I think my keyboard layout descriptions are corrupt. what is the package that has the keybord layouts? I should reinstall it.. or does anyone has any other idea?12:22
muyambarobotgeek: it says this "debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Dialog12:22
muyambadebconf: (Dialog frontend requires a screen at least 13 lines tall and 31 columns wide.)12:22
muyambadebconf: falling back to frontend: Readline12:22
muyambaPackage `xserver-org' is not installed and no info is available.12:22
muyambaUse dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,12:22
muyambaand dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.12:22
muyamba/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-org is not installed"12:22
cello_raspcan't you handle a puzzle game12:23
robotgeekmuyamba: don't paste in here12:23
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fli7ecello_rasp, no i meant in terms of addictiveness (back in two years, i'll forget i have a life)12:23
muyambaRobotgeek: what do i do next??12:23
robotgeekmuyamba: press ctrl + alt + f2, log in , and type that command. you can get back to this screen by pressing ctrl + alt + f712:24
robotgeekdevwal: can u link me to the tutorial?12:24
cello_raspfli7e: most games dont come with a free shot of heroin. i'm addicted to puzzle games for the reward of solving them.12:24
devwalhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9400712:25
devwalI am very confused as to how I set up the partitions on the 2nd drive if there is already data there12:25
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devwalDo I install OSX on top of the existing single partition on the 2nd drive12:25
fli7ecello_rasp, likewise, but if they get too difficult i find them hard to walk away from. Just one more level.... just one more level....12:26
devwalor do I create a new partition and install OSX on that and then?12:26
devwalSee my dilema?12:26
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robotgeekdevwal: moment to grok12:27
devwalindeed, take your time12:27
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robotgeekdevwal: so, are you trying to just dualboot or to dualboot on USB?12:29
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cello_raspfli7e: can i recomment alpha-centauri? it is published for linux, and while you have to pay for it , it is a very good strategy game.12:29
devwalrobotgeek, i am trying to boot ubuntu from an external drive12:29
devwalthat is HFS+ with data on it12:29
devwali cannot reformat it, so i am going to make a new partition12:29
devwalbut im curious if that external drive needs a copy of OSX also in order for it to boot12:30
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devwalinto Ubuntu12:30
wckdkl0wnwhat do i need to play avi and wmv videos?12:30
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devwalVLC player12:30
wckdkl0wnok12:30
wckdkl0wnty12:30
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robotgeekdevwal: i know that macs support external booting, there is only one issue i see12:30
fli7ecello_rasp, nah, although i do like puzzle games, im currently looking for something free and relatively low-key.... just some mindless to keep me busy during class12:31
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fli7e*something mindless12:31
devwalrobotgeek: i just am being very cautious, because the drive i am partitioning has very important stuff on it12:31
devwalbut i just have nowhere to back it up12:31
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robotgeekdevwal: hmm, how are you going to repartition? you have to resize your partition or do you have free space on it?12:32
robotgeekor an empty partition on it?12:32
devwali have free space and a copy of iPartition12:32
pakmanCan anyone help me with a problem with the Kdevelop gnome project template?  I'm getting a "missing autogen.sh" error...12:32
robotgeekdevwal: okay, resize and make a nice partition.12:33
wckdkl0wni have just installed vlc and it doesnt show the video only the sound12:33
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robotgeekubotu: tell wckdkl0wn about restrictedformats12:33
devwalrobotgeek: Should this be an HFS partition12:34
devwal?12:34
robotgeekdevwal: are you booting apple from that drive? if no, i don't think so. plus, guided partitioning will take care of that12:34
wckdkl0wnanyone?12:35
devwalhaha I am so freaked out12:35
robotgeekwckdkl0wn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:35
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devwalso robotgeek : ubuntu just needs a partition to work with after you start from the CD12:35
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lex__hi all. I have problem compilleing gnome2.12 with jhbuild. It's getting error ImportError: No module named libxml2. But python-xml2 is installed.12:36
robotgeekdevwal: yes. there could be a possible issue12:36
robotgeekdevwal: ubuntu will install and all, you might not be able to boot from it after install cause the initram (or whatever the thing is called) doesn't load scsi modules, hence not loading your hdd, hence not mounting your root ubuntu partition12:37
devwalhhahaaaaaaa I want this to work so bad12:37
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fli7ewhat the hell just happened12:38
robotgeekfli7e: netsplit12:38
fli7erobotgeek, what?12:38
fli7enetwork outage?12:38
robotgeekfli7e: yup12:38
fli7egotcha12:38
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robotgeekdevwal: go ahead and ipartition it, i will try to offer more input12:39
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devwalTheoretically, because after installing Ubuntu Linux, I discovered that you can't boot it from a FireWire drive. I did a lot of online research, and that's a pretty consistent message.12:39
devwal""12:39
devwalbummer12:39
robotgeekdevwal: only reason is cause the modules are not in the initramfs12:40
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devwalSuch a bummer12:40
devwalSuch a gigantic bummer12:40
devwalI want to run Ubuntu so bad12:40
robotgeekdevwal: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811 rejoice12:40
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StokesTheorem...12:41
StokesTheoremWow, that is ironic.12:41
fli7ewhat is that command that is like top12:41
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StokesTheoremdevwal - you CAN do it from a FireWire.12:41
fli7efor taking a snapshot of running processes12:41
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robotgeekdevwal: so, it's possible, has been done, just needs a bit of work from your side :)12:42
devwalI think I know how to do it12:42
dproffessahell12:42
devwalthere is an option in startup disk that lets you pick the target drive12:42
devwalwhen you restart12:42
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fli7enevermind, the command is ps12:43
yosefhow do i get firefox 1.5?12:43
robotgeekdevwal: the issue is not with OS X, but with linux12:43
robotgeek!firefox1.512:43
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion12:43
brennerfli7e: 'ps'?12:43
fli7ein terminal "ps"12:43
fli7eps - report a snapshot of the current processes.12:43
yosef!firefox1.512:44
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion12:44
brenneryeah, sorry...that was my answer...too late :)12:44
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Ngsucker ;)12:44
StokesTheoremI probably just walked into something...  but devwal, are you contemplating using an external via FireWire?12:44
devwalthey don'12:44
devwalthey don't look so hot12:44
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devwalyes Str12:44
StokesTheoremhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11516412:44
devwalStokesTheorem* excuse me12:45
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LoPMXyes they do12:45
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StokesTheoremI've been trying to build a boot disk for my USB external, but I've turned up a lot of research simultaniously regarding FireWire.12:45
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robotgeekStokesTheorem: he has a mac, he can boot directly from a firewire drive12:45
StokesTheoremThere are a bunch of links to mac-specific external linux sites.12:45
StokesTheoremOh, okay, nevermind.12:45
robotgeekStokesTheorem: does the initram for ubuntu have firewire modules?12:46
cello_raspghm12:46
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fli7eum, ive just noticed that whenever i right click a link in irc here and select "open in web browser" it opens in terminal text-based browser (w3m) instead of firefox... how do i switch it back?12:46
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robotgeekdevwal: i would suggest you find out the name of the firewire modules are needed by using a live cd12:47
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devwali have a live cd and an install made up12:47
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devwalshould i restart with the live CD?12:47
devwaland hop back in here?12:47
devwal;)12:48
StokesTheoremI actually came in here for help with a similar matter.  If you have a chance to stick around after you've finished helping devwal, I'd appreciate it.12:48
robotgeekStokesTheorem: i'm no expert here, i'm just googling :)12:48
devwalheh, we're all confused Stokes12:48
devwalwelcome to the party12:48
StokesTheorem*lol*12:48
devwalI'm kind of losing it here12:48
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devwalThe tutorials are not enough info for me12:48
StokesTheoremDarnit, that is what I made that long-arse post up for.  At this point I have like five hours experience using Linux and I'm trying to do something crazy!12:48
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devwalsomeone needs to write one for people who are repartitioning and using an external firewire drive :)12:49
brennerfli7e: maybe you have w3m as your default browser12:49
StokesTheoremI have been focusing on making a SUB, but like I said, there are some decent links off that site.12:49
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fli7ebrenner, where is that set12:49
robotgeekdevwal: step 1 -> Make that partition; step 2 -> boot using Live cd and not down modules ; step 3 -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811 (with firewire changes)12:49
robotgeekdevwal: you make one :)12:49
brennerfli7e: sys > prefs > preferred apps12:50
weekangbtw12:50
StokesTheoremGod knows I stumbled across tons and tons of FireWire external discussions.  I kind of get the feeling that it is a little different from USB/non-macs.12:50
weekangdoes anyone know if grub can be uninstalled from the MBR?12:50
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robotgeekweekang: getting rid of ubuntu, huh?12:50
s_spiff ! FireWire12:50
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, s_spiff12:50
s_spiff!Firewire12:50
ubotus_spiff: I give up, what is it?12:50
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brennerweekang: do you have an xp cd handy?12:50
s_spiffcrap..12:50
fli7ebrenner, it was set to custom, but still referenced firefox. changing to firefox didnt solve the problem12:51
robotgeekweekang: google for fixmbr12:51
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brennerfli7e: dunno.  ask in #xchat.  the folks in there are cool12:51
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fli7egood idea12:51
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robotgeekStokesTheorem: since macs allows booting from firewire, half the problem is solved12:52
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devwalrobotgeek: a Linux partition?12:52
weekangdoes anyone know if grub can be uninstalled from the MBR?12:52
devwalWill it repartition the partition space that I am making?12:52
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brennerweekang: do you have an xp cd handy?12:53
robotgeekdevwal: when you repartition your drive, just format the other parition as freespace12:53
Psi-JackHmmm.. Does K/ubuntu not install ide-scsi for use for cdrecord, by default?12:53
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robotgeekdevwal: "guided partitioning" during install will take care of all the details for you, i guess12:54
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StokesTheoremrobotgeek:  Kind of...  But there is value in being able to boot a FireWire external on non-macs too.12:54
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weekangbrenner: is that necessary? the system has no cd-rom12:54
robotgeekStokesTheorem: true, no harm in finding out. usb hdd's are cheaper than firewire :)12:54
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kerahethi,friends,how can i install softwares under vmware on ubuntu?12:55
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weekangkerahet: try qemu instead of vmware12:56
weekangit's free12:56
brennerweekang: well i'm not sure if there's other methods besides reinstalling xp, but the usual one is to run 'fixmbr' as robotgeek suggested after you boot into rescue mode off an xp cd12:56
Blippekerahet as you would if you didn't emulate12:56
weekangbrenner: u mean i can't just use grub to uninstall itself gracefully?12:56
gurekI've tried to install amule on my ubuntu. After 'apt-get install amule' instalation stopped with error: Libwxgtk is required. I'm unable to download libwxgth 'cause it's not compatible with ubuntu at all. So iS there any way to uninstall not complete amule packets? When I try to run apt-get , i get just error on error in dependencies, and I can't do anything. Is there any way to fix it?12:56
keraheti installed wmvare12:56
weekangbrenner: thanks12:56
devwalheh new problem: how do i repartition it so i dont lose data12:56
tafsenCan I make a shortcut in gnome with the windowsbutton + (a random button) show my desktop?12:56
robotgeektafsen: sure, Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts12:57
devwaluhh i feel so bad for you robotgeek -- putting up with me12:57
tafsenrobotgeek: what do I type in the terminal to start that?12:57
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Nggurek: you could try "sudo dpkg -r amule"12:57
robotgeektafsen: no terminal, all gui.12:57
weekangrobotgeek: did u send me some advice just now? didn't c it cos of netsplit12:57
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weekangrobotgeek: thx anyway12:58
robotgeekweekang: i said, google for fixmbr12:58
weekangrobotgeek: ok thx12:58
kerahetok,where can i find softwares for vmware ubuntu12:58
tafsenyeah, but I need the command to start it from the terminal, because i don't have the menu avaible ;)12:58
brennerweekang: you can apparently use a floppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows12:58
robotgeektafsen: gnome-panel, maybe?12:58
brennerweekang: actually, hang on.12:58
brennerweekang: sorry.  got confused. :)12:59
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hawkingDoes anyone know what package creates /etc/X11/xkb?12:59
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lexhideris azureus in the archives???12:59
brennerweekang: that's for restoring, not uninstalling12:59
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Blippekerahet you need a so called "virtual machine" http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/vm/01:00
pfarmerhawking:  try xkeyboard-config01:00
StokesTheoremrobotgeek:  I'm still on my quest to make this boot disk, and stumbled across another option.  Can you tell me whether following this (brief) is suicide for a newbie?01:00
Blippeubotu tell lexhider about azureus01:00
hawkingpfermer :already did01:00
Blippe!ubotu tell lexhider about azureus01:00
tafsenrobotgeek: gnome-panel is the bar you see at the top and the bottom of the screen :)01:00
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kerahetis there a place where i can download programs for ubuntu01:00
pfarmerhawking:  so whats the problem?01:01
pfarmerhawking:  xkeyboard-config puts files in /etc/X11/xkb01:01
hawkingpfarmer :Iwant to change the keyboard layout with setxkbmap and Iget this error : Error loading new keyboard description01:01
hawkingIam lost01:01
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hawkingItried many things doesn'T work01:01
kerahetis there a place where i can download programs for ubuntu,a fev links01:02
hawkingany ideas pfarmer?01:02
robotgeektafsen: just type gnome-keybinding-properties01:02
Blippekerahet you use synaptic in ubuntu01:02
robotgeekStokesTheorem: ask away01:03
Blippe!ubotu tell kerahet about synaptic01:03
Blippe!ubotu tell kerahet about repos01:03
kerahetok,thx01:03
pfarmerhawking: do the files exist?01:04
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Blippe!ubotu tell kerahet about easysource01:04
hawkingpfarmer yeah there are some files in /etc/X11/xkb01:04
StokesTheoremrobotgeek:  Is http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t269145.html suicide for a newbie?  Specifically, can I get away with not having to compile anything (specifically a kernel).01:04
s_spiff /nick s_spiff{AWAY}01:04
pfarmerhawking: can you pastebin the full command and full output01:04
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eth42does anyone know what "R/W multiple sector transfer" in "hdparm -I /dev/hda" means?01:05
hawkingpfarmer -->setxkbmap tr  Error loading new keyboard description that's it01:05
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Set!ubouto tell #ubuntu about rpm01:06
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Set01:06
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hawking!ubotu tell thespiritoftal about xlibs01:06
robotgeekStokesTheorem: interesting, lemme grok01:07
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skeffI get an error "libawt.so: libXp.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when trying to install a program. But in /usr/lib, behold! /usr/lib/libXp.so.6 -> libXp.so.6.2.1            Why is there a problem finding it?01:08
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Set!ubouto tell #ubuntu about deb01:09
ubotuSet: Are you on ritalin?01:09
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StokesTheoremrobotgeek:  I'm gonna try working on this a little for the moment.  Where would I find these "modules"?01:09
Raskallis it safe to upgrade from breezy to dapper?01:09
pfarmerhawking: have you tried setting the keyboard map with "System -> Preferences -> Keyboard"01:09
kerahethelp,i can not install wmvare tools01:10
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robotgeekRaskall: it's stable, but if you *need* that machine, stay away01:10
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devwalrobotgeek: here goes nothing01:10
Raskallrobotgeek: :) it's just my private laptop.01:10
devwalwish me luck01:10
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pfarmerhawking: and is tr the correct name?01:10
StokesTheoremdevwal:  Good Luck.01:10
robotgeekdevwal: good luck, and *document* everything :)01:11
s_spiff{AWAY}! beep Media Player01:11
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, s_spiff{AWAY}01:11
Raskallrobotgeek: so I'll go for it. :)01:11
s_spiff{AWAY}! beep01:11
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, s_spiff{AWAY}01:11
robotgeekRaskall: yes, i did too01:11
s_spiff{AWAY}! BMP01:11
ubotufrom memory, bmp is a guide to Beep Media Player and Plugins, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer01:11
StokesTheoremRemember, if all else fails violence typically does the trick in fixing any sort of technical problem.,01:11
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hawkingpfarmer :yes01:12
Raskallrobotgeek: I have always installed the next release a couple of months early before. Can't do any worse now, can I? :)01:12
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pfarmerhawking: ok so do you have /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/tr ?01:12
hawkinglemme see01:12
robotgeekStokesTheorem: you basically following a procedure like a pxe-install, you could even manage with a floppy i think01:13
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rendihelp01:13
robotgeekRaskall: :)01:13
rendihelp01:13
rendi# /etc/init.d/apache2 start01:13
rendiStarting apache 2.0 web server...apache2: bad user name www-data01:13
rendi failed!01:13
hawkingpfarmer:Id01:13
hawkingpfarmer:Ido01:13
robotgeekrendi: don't paste in here01:13
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StokesTheoremRaskall: I'm very new, so that could be a part of it, but I initially tried the Dapper Drake flight CD 2.  I turned it on after a few days and let it "upgrade", at which point it froze whenever trying to go into gnome.01:13
Raskallrobotgeek: but I will wait upgrading my server. :) my 50+ users might be angry if things break (even though they don't pay anything for using it)01:13
rendican help me01:13
rendii have del www-data01:13
rendiand i wann it back01:13
rotemcan someone help me with mysql i keep getting Access denied for user: 'mysql@localhost'01:13
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pfarmerhawking: then setxkbmap tr should work ok01:14
hawkingpfarmer :it DOESN'T01:14
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robotgeekrendi: sudo apt-get install --reinstall apache201:14
StokesTheoremrobotgeek:  I have no idea what a pxe-install is.  I take it what you just said is a good thing, though.01:14
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robotgeekStokesTheorem: basically for a netboot, you install a linux kernel with your ethernet card drivers, boot of it and retrieve the packages from the network. havent gotten it to work yet :)01:15
StokesTheoremrobotgeek:  *lol*  There are already a ton of generic pre-made boot disks to do precisely that.01:16
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StokesTheoremrobotgeek:  Right now I've managed to mount initrd, and am able to "look ardound" and tweak things.  I''m supposed to "replace the modules".  Any suggestions?01:17
pfarmerhawking: can you set the keymap to gb ok? or to us ok?01:17
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rendiwooooooooooooot01:18
rendistill wrong01:18
rendikapolri:/home/admin# /etc/init.d/apache2 start01:18
rendiStarting apache 2.0 web server...apache2: bad user name www-data01:18
rendi failed!01:18
Xenguypf01:19
rendimy boss will kill me01:19
Xenguysorry01:19
RaskallStokesTheorem: have gotten gnome to work again?01:19
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pfarmerhawking: did you upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10?01:20
pfarmerhawking: or did you install 5.10 fresh?01:20
StokesTheoremRaskall:  Using Breezy now.  :)01:20
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tafsenIs there a way that I can get php files to be displayed at the same way as an html file?01:20
Steve^woo, another live cd to repartition my drive, think I'll use a CD-RW this time01:20
StokesTheoremRaskall:  Barely had had a chance to play when I had to reinstall, so nothing lost.01:20
RaskallStokesTheorem: ok.. :) I cross my fingers that it will work now.01:21
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Raskallahh.. I just love my 4 mbit dsl line. :)01:21
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StokesTheoremRaskall:  Maybe just create another partition for it and then share the swap file?01:22
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|nee-chan|?01:22
|nee-chan|?01:22
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StokesTheoremRaskall:  Maybe even share the /home partition, although no doubt the Ubuntu gods just shook their fists at me.01:22
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RaskallStokesTheorem: nah.. I already have 3 operating systems installed. I am competent enough to get things working again. (been using linux since -93)01:23
drcodeany one know if there is VOD server in linux and windows from Open SOurce?01:24
RaskallStokesTheorem: I am not afraid of my data when doing "apt-get upgrade". I'm not installing from cd.01:24
brennerwhat version of xchat does breezy ship with?01:24
RaskallStokesTheorem: just replace "breezy" with "dapper" in /etc/apt/sources.list and "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade"01:24
topyliRaskall: worst that can happen is different versions of apps will barf, having to share incompatible config files01:25
robotgeekRaskall: dist-upgrade01:26
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Raskalltopyli: I know. :) Have done this with both hoary and breezy before. The original install on this laptop was actually a warty :)01:26
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devwalrobotgeek: It is not recognizing my live cd for some reason01:27
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Guard] [anhi01:27
robotgeekdevwal: hmm, maybe reburn at lower speeds?01:27
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Raskallrobotgeek: of course.. just a typo. :)01:28
devwalya, trying burning it in a different app01:28
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devwal6:30am01:28
robotgeekdevwal: verify the md5sum01:28
devwaltypical01:28
robotgeekdevwal: damn, same timezone!01:28
devwalWI01:28
devwalyou?01:28
naliothubotu: tell devwal about verify01:28
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naliothrobotgeek: he's freeezin01:28
robotgeekRaskall: heh :)01:29
robotgeekdevwal: TX01:29
devwaleverything is big there01:29
devwal:)01:29
devwalI drive a Honda Civic -- just about everything in TX would run me over01:29
robotgeekdevwal: i think we are leaning towards offtopic talk :)01:30
topylidevwal: yeah, their civics would crash your civic01:30
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Guard] [ani updated the system, now libcairo is marked as to be upgraded and xchat and sylpheed have been removed01:30
devwalWell my Honda Civic is much like Ubuntu in that..01:30
devwal;)01:30
Guard] [ananyone having problems with libcairo ???01:30
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KeithWeissharhow many software packages does ubuntu include?01:31
naliothdevwal: you're welcome to discuss Texas and civics (and civets) in #ubuntu-offtopic01:31
KeithWeisshardebian incluses 825001:31
devwalnalioth: was kidding, im done01:31
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robotgeekKeithWeisshar: i thought the count was close to 17000?01:32
Guard] [annow if i want to install xchat back it complains: "depends: libcairo2(>=1.0.2-2) but 1.0.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed depends: libssl0.9.8 (>=0.9.8a1) but is not installable01:32
Guard] [anetc...01:32
robotgeekGuard] [an: did you install any packages from debian?01:32
Guard] [anany idea please ?01:32
KeithWeisshardues ubuntu have more or fewer packages than debian?01:33
ograKeithWeisshar, more01:33
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ograKeithWeisshar, its over 17000 currently01:34
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sorsapKeithWeisshar: but as far as i understand, because ubuntu uses much of debian packages, and many of those are not compliant with ubuntu you can't really compare the amount01:35
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ograsorsap, sure you can ... we sync all available debian packages from debian ... additionally all the stuff from apt-get.org and some other sources like wine from winehq etc01:36
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ograso it *must* be slightly more packages ...01:36
NgGuard] [an: at a guess I'd say something is wrong with your apt sources - xchat in breezy depends on libssl 0.9.7 and libcairo2 1.0.001:36
Belutzhi ogra, are you joining the ubuntu asian tours?01:36
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ograBelutz, heh, nope, i have to prepare for feature freeze ...01:37
Belutzogra, ah i see01:37
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ograBelutz, mark does it mostly alone iirc ...01:38
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eyedol59hello to everyone!01:38
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eyedol59i am having problems in nautilus when i try to burn a cd, could anybody help me please?01:39
Belutzogra, i see, i heard there will be 6 people coming to jakarta01:40
naliotheyedol59: use k3b (it's worth the kde libs it depends on)01:40
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ograBelutz, ah, i'm not involved in the planning ...01:40
ograeyedol59, whats your problem ?01:40
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Belutzogra, ah i see, i hope they also discuss about edubuntu01:41
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eyedol59when i give nautilus the order to burn the cd he says to me: "File image creation failed"01:42
rambo3!java01:42
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs01:42
ograBelutz, they surely will talk about it ... but i think its not the main focus .... ask a lot of questions about edubuntu and i'll have to be there next time ;)01:42
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Belutzogra, ok :)01:42
eyedol59when i give nautilus the order to burn the cd he says to me: "File image creation failed"o01:43
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ograeyedol59, check that you have enough temp space to actually build an iso01:43
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robotgeek_zzzdevwal: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2983701:43
eyedol59temp space?01:43
ograeyedol59, yes, the image is created in /tmp before it gets written01:44
ograeyedol59, you can override this for nautilus-cd-burner in the gconf-editor01:44
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eyedol59mm , so you are sugesting that because my /temp is full, the nautilus is unable to bur the cd, ok i will try right know....01:45
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MERT#debian.tr01:46
linzhizhaolumaqqubuntu.org.cnlumaqq01:46
xukunif I try to listen internet radio then I get "Totem could not play 'fd://0'. There is no plugin to handle this movie." Any idea?01:46
LoReis there an equivalent to debian-testing in ubuntu?01:46
_jasonxukun, try mplayer or vlc instead01:46
ograLoRe, nope01:46
ograLoRe, would make no sense with qa 6month release cycle to additionally have testing01:47
onkarshindexukun: try streamtuner01:47
ogras/qa/a/01:47
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xukunthanks guys01:47
j2daoshok01:47
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j2daoshi got a probelm... well several01:48
j2daoshone my sound aint working no more... 2 i dont have the ability to sudo01:48
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j2daosh3 i cant get into the user/groups to change my permissions01:48
eyedol59i have already deleted the /tmp but he stills gives me the same error, any ideas?01:48
_jasonj2daosh, let's try the sudo problem.  What happens when you try to sudo?01:49
j2daoshi can do a su though.... and my other account has sound01:49
j2daoshnothing01:49
j2daoshgives me a prompt like i just hit enter on a blank line01:49
_jasonj2daosh, is this the first account you created (during install)01:49
j2daoshyes01:49
xukunonkarshinde, streamtuner is already installed01:49
onkarshindewhat station are you trying to play?01:50
j2daoshi think the sound has something to do with timidy maybe... but i cant get into my groups and everything to figure it out01:50
j2daoshlemme check what groups im in01:50
j2daoshim in the sudo group01:50
j2daosh...01:50
j2daoshim gonna remove myself from all the groups01:50
xukunwww.nederland.fm and when I go to this website then it displays that error01:51
eyedol59i am having problems in nautilus when i try to burn a cd, could anybody help me please?01:51
tafsenwhat's the difrence from 586 and 686?01:51
xukunonkarshinde, even before I can choose one01:51
j2daoshha01:51
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j2daoshfigured that one out01:51
j2daoshneeded to add myself to admin group because i got deleted out of there somehow01:52
_jasonj2daosh, yeah, are you in audio group?01:52
j2daoshok... next lets do the sound thing...?01:52
j2daoshnope01:52
j2daoshlol01:52
onkarshindexukun: it seems it provides streams in some proprietry format01:52
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j2daoshlemme add01:52
_jasonj2daosh, lol easy :)01:52
_jason(hopefully)01:52
j2daoshnope01:52
j2daoshno device found01:52
j2daoshmaybe i have to restart before that change takes affect01:52
_jasonj2daosh, maybe, give it a try01:53
eyedol59i am having problems in nautilus when i try to burn a cd, could anybody help me please?01:53
j2daoshok... brb01:54
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umbertociao01:55
umbertoc'e nessuno01:55
_jasonumberto, italiano?01:55
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eyedol59i am having trouble burning a cd with nautilus, could anybody help me please?01:55
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kchandranlk;lk;lkkl01:55
kchandrankijlkijkljk01:55
kchandranioioiio01:55
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_jason!it01:56
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:56
kchandrantesting01:56
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ulaas!tr01:57
ubotuI haven't a clue, ulaas01:57
ELGIMIKEROs01:57
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lowman62g'mornin/aft'noon/g'evenin tech support room :)01:58
_jasonulaas, are you able to create a message informing users of the #ubuntu.tr channel in Turkish?01:58
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ulaas_jason, no. and i only wanted to check if someone did.01:59
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_jasonubotu, tr is <reply> /j #ubuntu.tr02:00
ubotu_jason: okay02:00
_jasonulaas, better than nothing I guess02:00
ulaas#ubuntu.tr02:00
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ulaas_jason, thats nice! thanx02:01
_jasonulaas, do you speak turkish?02:01
ulaas_jason, well sure.02:01
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_jasonulaas, You can write a short sentence in Turkish informing people that they can get help in Turkish in #ubuntu.tr and I'll add it to ubotu if you want :)02:03
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ulaas_jason, ok here it goes.02:04
eyedol59i am having trouble burning a cd with nautilus, could anybody help me please?02:04
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olicatwe've got a main network here which is on 192.168.101.*, and a smaller testing one on 10.10.10.* - any ideas how i can get to the 10.* network from the other one?02:04
FaithXolicat: route02:05
olicatFaithX, how does that wokr?02:05
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j2daoshwell it worked jason lol02:05
FaithXdo you have a linux box with a nic on both nets?02:06
_jasonj2daosh, great02:06
j2daoshthat was easy fixes :) and in the process i became a sudoer and not dont need to sudo :)02:06
cleowhats the best way to encrypt a whole partition?02:06
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j2daoshnevermind... still gotta sudo02:06
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j2daosh:(02:06
j2daoshoh well02:06
ulaas_jason, "Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu.tr hizmetinizde."02:06
_jasonubotu, no tr is <reply> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu.tr hizmetinizde.02:07
ubotuokay, _jason02:07
_jason!tr02:07
ubotuTurk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu.tr hizmetinizde.02:07
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FaithXolicat: do you have a linux box with a nic on both nets?02:07
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ulaasworks, great02:07
_jasonulaas, thanks02:07
Micksahi, is there a way to get an ubuntu box to automaticall suspend if the battery charge goes below a certain level?02:07
KeithWeissharis it worth the time to create a new ubuntu dvd when a new version of ubuntu is released02:08
KeithWeisshardownload02:08
ulaas_jason, thanx to you.02:08
olicatFaithX, no, the nic goes to another machine02:08
_jasonKeithWeisshar, no, just upgrade with apt-get02:08
FaithXolicat: you need a router between both networks02:08
Belutzwhere's the file setting for network profile created by network-admin?02:09
olicati see thanks02:09
j2daoshwhere can i get new "themes"?02:09
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lowman62does anyone know where I can get the Gecko SDK? opera is a pain02:09
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_jasonKeithWeisshar, are you considering upgrading to breezy, or were you just looking for some info?02:09
j2daoshwhats up jenda02:10
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brennerj2daosh: gnome-look.org02:10
jendahey j2daosh...02:10
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j2daoshhows it going ole buddy ole pal02:10
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wckdkl0wndoes ubuntu come with java already installed?? i am thinkin about setting it up on my moms and she plays a lot on pogo02:10
j2daoshahh... how very true02:11
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_jasonubotu, tell j2daosh about themes02:11
j2daoshso i can get themes from gnome-look eh?02:11
brennerwckdkl0wn: no02:11
_jasonubotu, tell wckdkl0wn about java02:11
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wckdkl0wnwhy does everyone always wanna redirect u to some place else instead of just a straight answer?02:13
wckdkl0wnbrenner, ty02:13
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_jasonwckdkl0wn, I was jsut letting you know where you can get java.  Makes no sense to repeat the same info over and over :)02:14
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wckdkl0wn_jason, i havent installed the os yet lol jsut wanted to find out yes or no before i installed02:15
KeithWeissharwhy am i only getting 150kb/sec when downloading the ubuntu dvd, i'm connected at 3000kbps with dsl02:15
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KeithWeisshari'm using bittorrent 4.2202:15
_jasonwckdkl0wn, ah ok02:15
wckdkl0wn3000kps with dsl??02:15
brennerwckdkl0wn: i was just being lazy actually. :P  and _jason had your best intentions at heart02:15
wckdkl0wnyea i know but i just seem to get a lot of redirects thats all02:16
wckdkl0wnand that one just tipped me over the edge so i had to say something about it02:16
nalioth_zZzwckdkl0wn: tje02:16
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nalioth_zZzwckdkl0wn: the 'redirects' are to wiki articles to help you02:16
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wckdkl0wnnvm02:17
wckdkl0wnlol02:17
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j2daoshok i installed a theme but its not showing up in my themes manager... why?02:17
day_chowoi02:17
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_jasonj2daosh, some themes you download actually contain multiple files inside (the actual theme, some icons, some info).  Can you check if that's the case for your theme?02:18
j2daoshit is02:18
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brennerj2daosh: was it a true theme?  or just a window border etc.02:18
muzikheyas02:18
j2daoshhow do i get it to install and apply all those icons/backgrounds/ etc?02:18
muzikwhats the easiest way to get avidemux installed on ubuntu??02:19
j2daoshmediacity theme02:19
rob^^^vorlon: do you have the skinny on where php5-mcrypt got voted off the island?02:19
j2daoshmetacity theme02:19
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_jasonj2daosh, Can you link to the theme?02:19
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muzikwhats the easiest way to get avidemux installed on ubuntu??02:19
brennerj2daosh: does it show up in theme details?02:20
j2daoshnope... but it installed to the theme folder02:20
KeithWeissharwhy does the dvd take a really long time to download02:20
KeithWeissharit's 3.6gb02:21
KeithWeissharis it more than just combined live and install cd02:21
_jasonj2daosh, try dragging the file directly into the "theme details" window02:21
muzikwhats that program that installs all codecs and java and stuff?02:21
muziksounds like avidemux02:22
day_chosepi02:22
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_jason!easyubuntu02:22
ubotuI guess easyubuntu is a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntu02:22
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j2daoshWindows Border Theme Windows Media Center correctly installed.02:22
j2daoshYou can select it in the theme details.02:22
j2daoshbut it wont let me see it in there02:22
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j2daoshoh man... i gotta drag everything to it?02:23
yaccJust wondering, what is the recommended filesystem type for TB-sized filesystems?02:23
j2daoshwhat kinda crap is that?!02:23
_jasonj2daosh, let me try it on mine.  Could always be the theme.  Do you have a link to the page?02:23
FriarHi... how to I make Wan0 activate at boot time?02:23
_jasonj2daosh, what do you mean 'everything'?  It's just the file you download.  Same thing as clicking install and then finding it.02:24
brennerj2daosh: no.  'install theme' button should work fine...so it doesn't show up in theme details > window border tab?02:24
j2daoshhttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/download.php?content=33585&id=102:24
j2daoshnope...02:24
j2daoshwhen i click install it installs... then it tells me to select from details02:24
j2daoshbut its not in my details02:24
j2daoshi have to actually go to a folder02:24
j2daoshbut i get no options for it in the theme manager02:24
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brennerj2daosh: do you have a url for the details page?02:25
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j2daoshhttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=3358502:25
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brennerj2daosh: you shouldn't need to uncompress02:27
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j2daoshi didn't... i installed the tar02:27
j2daoshbrb gotta take son to school02:27
_jasonj2daosh, it just installed fine for me.  All I did was drag it straight into theme preferences.  It shows up in theme details-> window border like brenner was saying02:28
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VR^hey all, how do I install a mouse (cursor) theme?02:28
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Katie^I got my new phone yesterday, how do I install the software? Will wine work?02:29
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brennerVR^: i'm guessing here.... sys > pref > mouse > cursor ... then drag and drop the theme archive02:30
VR^brenner: tried that, didn't work02:30
xiaogilWhen I try the address localhost or ubuntu in firefox, it opens http://p2p.cs.mu.oz.au/software/Localhost/ instead of my local site, why ? How to repair that ?02:30
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Katie^please guys i need some help :(02:32
Steve^Yay, Ubuntu is installed!02:32
_jasonxiaogil, does 127.0.0.1 work?02:32
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C-O-L-Thow to install image magick?02:33
Steve^and the internet worked out the box, which is nice02:33
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Katie^Fatal Error : windows 9x systems not supported by software02:33
Katie^help./02:33
alvar!linux02:34
ubotuhmm... linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of the GNU/Linux operating system. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux02:34
Guard] [anre, i have still my pb. i updated using the update manager. the result is --> xchat, sylpheed and others (don't remember) programs got removed, and i cannot install them back. what should i do ?02:34
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brennerC-O-L-T: install the imagemagick package02:34
brennerKatie^: what app?02:34
C-O-L-Tbrenner: is it in repos?02:34
brennerC-O-L-T: main02:34
Katie^it's a disc2phone thng02:35
C-O-L-Tbrenner: ok02:35
xiaogil_jason: yes! but why ?02:35
Katie^so I can put mp3s on my mobile02:35
Katie^oh, wine02:35
alvar!info xchat02:35
ubotuxchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.4.4-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 240 kB, Installed size: 664 kB02:35
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_jasonxiaogil, what version of firefox are you using.  'localhost' seems to work here on 1.5, but I suspect yours is doing an "I'm feeling luck search" on google and going to that page.02:35
rob^^^when building php5 I was getting errors when I did just dpkg-buildpackage so I ran ./debian/rules/build-apache2-stamp, am I barking up the wrong tree02:36
xiaogil_jason: yes, it looks to be using google02:36
_jasonxiaogil, what version are you using of firefox? 1.07?02:36
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xiaogil_jason: firefox 1.0.702:36
Katie^is there a new edition of wine02:37
j2daoshok im back02:37
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j2daoshnow what were we talking about with the themes? just drag the tar file into the themes window and it installs?02:37
_jasonxiaogil, yeah they probably updated it to recognize localhost as the actual localhost instead of a search.  That's my guess anyway, I've always used 127.0.0.1 so I'm not sure if that's really the case or if there is a setting somewhere.02:37
j2daoshit doesn't install to my icons or controls though02:38
j2daosh?02:38
Guard] [ani installed xubuntu on my laptop following the wiki, it says "install ubuntu in server mode", what do i need to add to have laptop support ???02:39
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_jasonj2daosh, you got the window border though?  that's all that theme provides I believe02:39
j2daoshwell that sucks02:39
j2daosh :(02:39
xiaogil_jason: also, I have got a msg from gnome (at the boot of gnome) which tells me to add ubuntu to /etc/hosts, It doesn't do it automatically, what is the line to add to this file ?02:40
_jasonxiaogil, that may be part of the problem then02:41
VR^brenner: i figured it out. you drop the theme file in sys > pref > theme , then you go to sys > pref > mouse > cursor and select it there02:41
_jasonxiaogil, I'll post what mine looks like so you can see.  To edit it: sudo gedit /etc/hosts02:41
brennerVR^: ah, ok.  thanks for the info02:41
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brennerj2daosh: don't you just hate false advertising? :)02:42
j2daoshlol yeah02:42
_jasonxiaogil, here is what the first line of mine looks like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/699502:43
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brennerj2daosh: most, if not all of the themes i've seen are modular02:44
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lukus001Can someone forward me to where firefox keep it's book marks & evolutions e-mails so i can back them up?02:44
j2daoshsay wha?02:44
xiaogil_jason: could you explain the syntax ? Does it mean that the 3 adresses after the first one are links to the first one ?02:45
brennerj2daosh: they're seperate. i.e. window border theme only, icon theme only02:45
_jasonlukus001, firefox bookmarks: ~/.mozilla/firefox/*default/bookmarks.html02:45
j2daoshoh that sucks...02:45
Katie^how do i find out what edition of wine i have02:46
_jasonxiaogil, yep, 'man hosts'02:46
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xiaogil_jason: thanks a lot02:46
brennerj2daosh: personally, i think it's better...you can mix and match...02:46
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j2daoshKatie^, do sudo apt-get install wine02:46
lukus001_jason: thank you02:46
Katie^yep, did that, says i have the latest edition02:46
brennerj2daosh: leave a comment if you wish asking what icon theme etc. he used02:46
j2daoshif it installs something urs was outdated02:46
Katie^version**02:46
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Katie^does that mean there's no way to install this software then?02:47
j2daoshif you already have it... its already installed02:47
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HClweee :) hibernate in breezy with proprietary nvidia drivers works :)02:47
wckdkl0wnKatie^, try wines site for the latest version... the ubuntu repositories doesnt have the latest02:47
Katie^I want to install some software I got with my phone yesterday, when I try and install it with wine, it says it's not supported with windows 0x02:47
aeon17xHCl: we can hibernate? *checks*02:47
aeon17xWhoa.02:47
Katie^*9x02:47
aeon17xThere IS an option.02:48
mustard5Katie^, you can set wine to make the application think that it is XP02:48
j2daoshlemme look at my wine02:48
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Katie^oh how do I do that?02:48
j2daoshwine-cfg02:48
KeithWeissharis it worth the hours to redownload a new ubuntu dvd every 6 months02:48
mustard5Katie^, try this winecfg02:48
nanaemhi, i'm kinda new to ubuntu, got a question about harddisc. i've put another disc in, formated it with Gparted to ext3. but it does not show up in nautilus. do i have to mount it somehow since ubuntu don't find it?02:48
_jasonKeithWeisshar, no, update with apt-get instead02:49
wckdkl0wnKeithWeisshar, why not jsut update what u have?02:49
Katie^erm then what, lol02:49
mustard5then try installing again02:49
mustard5after you set wine to be windows NT02:49
Katie^oh i see02:49
Katie^thanks02:49
mustard5Katie^, I'm not that sure what you would be seeing on your screen :)02:50
KeithWeisshardoes ubuntu allow upgrading openoffice to 2.0.102:50
Katie^Yay!!!02:50
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mustard5Katie^, obviously it installed...hopefully it runs too :)02:50
Katie^it's ok, I completely didn't see the part that says windows version02:50
Katie^lol02:50
Katie^Ms windows isntaller service? What's that?02:51
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mustard5Katie^, its a windows installer02:51
KeithWeisshardo i need to changes the repositories in order to upgrade to 6.0.402:51
j2daoshoh hell yes02:51
j2daosh:) woot woot... now my comp looks nice :) me so happy lol02:52
Katie^so how do i get that?02:52
Katie^lol02:52
mustard5Katie^, did you get an error concerning that?02:52
Katie^yes02:52
Katie^I need to have it before it'll continue with disc2phone02:52
j2daoshif you got an error for that i think ur sol02:52
mustard5Katie^, hmm..k..let me look at my wine02:52
_jasonKeithWeisshar, are you going to be developing dapper?02:52
KeithWeissharno02:52
osfameronhow do I see which packages I've got installed?02:52
osfameron($boss doing a software audit)02:53
_jasonKeithWeisshar, I wouldn't recommend upgrading to it then.  It will break often while it is being developed02:53
Katie^http://tinypic.com/k359g2.png02:53
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KeithWeisshardo i need to edit the config when a new final version is released02:53
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mustard5Katie^, have you ever installed wine-tools ?02:53
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Katie^i dont think so02:53
mustard5Katie^, how did you install wine?02:53
mustard5Katie^, from synaptic?02:54
Katie^i thought it was already here? lol02:54
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_jasonKeithWeisshar, you can read how to upgrade to breezy to see how to upgrade versions02:54
_jasonubotu, tell KeithWeisshar about breezy02:54
Katie^ive only been on ubuntu about 4 days02:54
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Katie^lol02:54
mustard5Katie^,02:54
Katie^should i do sudo apt-get install wine-tools02:54
mustard5k02:54
Katie^'t find package wine-tools02:54
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mustard5Katie^, k02:54
mustard5Katie^, I'm curious how wine was installed02:54
eth42i noticed that timing buffered disk reads (hdparm -t) are comparatively low if I'm logged into gnome. why is that so?02:54
Katie^anyway i can find out02:55
j2daoshwinetools katie02:55
Katie^lol02:55
Katie^ty02:55
mustard5j2daosh, ah ok02:55
Katie^ok that's installing02:55
mustard5j2daosh, its just one word?02:55
j2daoshyep02:55
mustard5k02:55
mustard5I'm not that good on wine myself :)02:55
osfamerondpkg --get-selections!02:55
Katie^ok02:55
Katie^so now what, that's installed02:56
j2daoshlol i know the feeling... when i need windows i just restart into windows :)02:56
mustard5Katie^, type winetools in console02:56
Davey`wine update this morning, wonder if that'll let me run some newer apps :)02:56
j2daoshnow try running your installer again and see what happens02:56
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mustard5j2daosh, I think Katie^ would need to get winetools to install the base system02:56
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j2daoshKatie^, do sudo apt-get install winetools02:57
Katie^oh yeah, ive done that02:57
j2daoshthen once it is installed... type winetools02:57
j2daoshok02:57
mustard5Katie^, you go through the installation steps that winetools presents you with..one by one02:57
Katie^im at the basesetup02:57
j2daoshinstall new windows system02:57
mustard5Katie^, install it all starting from the base setup..step by step02:57
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mustard5Katie^, part of that installation should be the MSI installer02:58
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mustard5Katie^, it should install all the things you need *fingers crossed*02:58
Katie^do you mean02:58
Katie^install windows system software right?02:58
Merithi02:58
j2daoshit will be... once she gets all the errors about the fake drive it will take her to a screen with windows installer02:58
mustard5Katie^, yes02:58
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j2daoshthe second from the top in wine tools02:59
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Katie^gave me tonnes of errors "IE, d...exe"02:59
j2daoshlol sorry Katie^03:00
mustard5Katie^, did you start from the first one and do each step one at a time?03:00
j2daoshu have to do the base setup first03:00
j2daoshi was skipping03:00
Katie^oh03:00
j2daoshdo base setup for fake.. then the d and so on and so forth... then go to the installer part later03:00
Katie^do i create or update?03:00
j2daoshcreate03:00
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cello_rasphow do i access foreign samba shares from bash?03:02
Katie^ok03:02
Katie^so do i go down the entire list03:02
guillem101cello_rasp, smbclient -L host03:02
Katie^of fonts dcom...foundation classics?03:02
guillem101cello_rasp, smbclient -U user -L host03:02
j2daoshok... what the hell is drm?03:03
cello_raspdigital rights mechanism?03:03
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j2daoshive seen it before but i dont remember now03:03
cello_rasphttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRM03:04
_jasonj2daosh, 'digital rights management'  -- basically copy protection.  Search wikipedia for more info03:04
guillem101cello_rasp, also, mc may be a valuable tool from bash: cd /#smb:user@machine/dir03:04
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eldamitoHello...03:04
j2daoshgreat03:05
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j2daoshwell it is killing my terminal whatever it is03:05
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cello_rasphttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRM03:05
_jasonj2daosh, hrmm it probably isn't digital rights management then03:05
TTilusdigital restrictions management03:05
j2daoshwell i killed whatever it was03:05
Katie^dum de dum03:06
_jasonj2daosh, I guess that works03:06
j2daoshlol ive blued out my computer lol03:06
j2daoshcan anyone guess what my favorite color is? lol03:06
Katie^red03:06
TTilusj2daosh: bsod?03:07
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j2daoshlol03:08
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j2daoshyep03:08
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Katie^okay, windows installer installed03:08
Katie^do i need to carry on with everyhing else?03:08
mustard5Katie^, yes03:08
mustard5Katie^, finish the setup on winetools..and then that will help with all installations in the future03:09
mustard5Katie^, it may even have stuff necessary for this current installation03:10
tony_Hi all! Has anyone tried this hardware config and what kernel would be right for the badger install? Gigabyte GA-K8NMF-9 nForce4/AMD Athlon64 X2 Dual-Core "Manchester"/GeForce 7800GT03:10
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geopardyciao a tutti :)03:11
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Katie^I love how it goes "it appears the installation has failed, with a great huge green tick underenat lol03:11
_jasonKatie^, well at least it's windows-like03:11
Ophiocustony_, if your downloading an iso make sure its the 64 bit version, aside from that you look ready to roll03:11
Katie^lol03:11
Katie^brb03:11
geopardyc' qualcuno che pu aiutarmi a risolvere un prob??03:11
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mustard5tony_, 386 kernel should be  good for all, but you could try 64 bit kernel03:11
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mustard5tony_, 386 won't make the best use of your hardware though03:12
Ophiocus!it03:12
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:12
mustard5tony_, but you will have less problems with software03:12
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Katie^dog's lying in the hallway with ihs legs wide open...sexy...03:13
geopardyok scusate :(03:13
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Davey`Katie^: my cats do that all the time03:13
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jphihello03:13
Katie^male or female?03:13
jphimale03:13
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Katie^--03:14
jphi?03:14
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jphiya quelqu'un?03:15
midwinterheh.03:15
Katie^aww, i like gorillas03:15
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jphiyes! i am!03:15
Katie^is a primate a gorilla/ape t hing03:15
OpsVentusGood day all! Can someone tell me when the next release is scheduled?03:16
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mustard56 of the 4th?03:16
midwinterapril03:16
OpsVentusok, thanks03:16
midwinter20th I think03:16
midwinter!dapper03:16
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.03:16
mustard5the version numbers are the date of release anyway03:16
Katie^the 14th is my bday :D03:17
mustard5I was close anyway :)03:17
OpsVentusok, so I have to wait a wile03:17
Katie^just so we all know :p03:17
ulaasKatie^, 14 april?03:17
Katie^mhm03:17
mustard5OpsVentus, you having problems with the current version?03:17
takedown_mine 15 ;)03:17
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mustard5mine is on a completly different day in a different month :)03:18
Katie^yay, my installation is working :D03:18
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OpsVentusno, I want a clean install and was wondering I've I could wait will the next release or download Badger now03:18
OpsVentusso it's badger03:18
mustard5OpsVentus, k03:18
northieI have ubuntu on one drive, and want to install it again on another. Can I do this without using a cd?03:18
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tony_mustard5 : so i should expect some software problems with 64 bit?03:19
Setah god03:19
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mustard5tony_, yes..there are some things that arne't well supported on 64 bit...03:19
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mustard5tony_, multimedia stuff03:19
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cat_hi03:19
mustard5tony_, I think 64bit people have problems with .wmv files and flash as well as other issues03:20
midwinterhi03:20
lukus001yo, how do you burn an iso image on to a disk properly, ive done two now and they havnt been detected on boot up03:20
Katie^what's 64bit?03:20
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lukus001the same as 32bit, but twice as much =)03:20
mustard5Katie^, a faster computer :)03:20
cat_why there are so many people in #gentoo ,even more than those in #ubuntu ,03:20
takedown_mustard5: nothing problems with w32codecs...03:21
smash3rany way to kill a freezed app ?03:21
takedown_smash3r: kill pid app03:21
lukus001system tool > system moniter > appl > kill03:21
Katie^heap of crap is getting right on my tits03:21
ulaassmash3r, xkill03:21
arrinmurrcat_: because gentoo is quite popular?03:21
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mustard5smash3r, on gnome you can click heaps of times on the kill button too :)03:22
lukus001So does anyone know how to burn an image properly in ubuntu>03:22
mustard5smash3r, then it throws up a dialog to force quit03:22
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smash3rwoah03:22
smash3rgood03:22
cat_arrinmurr: i donot think so ! i think ubuntu is the most pop.03:22
smash3rI tried xkill03:22
smash3rthen I cliked the damn freezed xmms03:22
takedown_Anyone know when cedega ported to 64 bit?03:22
smash3rthen it crashed :)03:22
smash3rthankz all03:22
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Katie^right, i get it past installing ,net framework 1.103:23
Katie^then it asks for service pack 1 of that03:23
lukus001takedown_ most likly when more 64bit games are out03:23
Katie^and it just doesnt work, it just sits there looking at me03:23
mustard5smash3r, xmms usually freezes when the sound is not set right in the preferences03:23
takedown_:(03:23
tony_mustard5 :that is a shame. how about other linux flavors? can i run 32 bit drivers on a 64bit system?03:23
arrinmurrcat_: well, among those people that normally would even end up in linux distribution channels, gentoo may be quite popular03:23
lukus001no point in a 64 bit version when all the game except 2 are 32bit?03:24
takedown_may be anyone know how i can play if i have a cedega in chroot?03:24
midwintersure you could03:24
mustard5tony_, you can run a 386 kernel no problems03:24
takedown_in chroot cedega dont see video drivers03:24
takedown_i posted about that on forum03:25
mustard5tony_, try both :)03:25
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Katie^will someone download http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/thankyou.aspx?familyId=A8F5654F-088E-40B2-BBDB-A83353618B38&displayLang=en&oRef=http%3a%2f%2fwww.google.co.uk%2fsearch%3fq%3d.net%2bframework%2bversion%2b1.1%2bservice%2bpack%2b1%26btnG%3dSearch%26hs%3dZSN%26hl%3den%26client%3dfirefox%26rls%3dorg.mozilla%253Aen-GB%253Aunofficial and see if they can install it03:25
Katie^because when i ask it to open with wine, it doesnt even open wine let alone install03:25
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midwinterthat's a proper url03:25
mustard5tony_, you got more than one hard drive or space for two partitions with different installs of ubuntu?03:25
Ngwhat on earth is that?!03:25
mustard5Katie^, you doing it in Internet Explorer?03:26
Katie^no03:26
Katie^do i have to?03:26
tony_mustard5: sure - i will! unfortunately havee to use a win install for gaming. Yes i have enough room for ubuntu x 203:26
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mustard5tony_, well I would just try them both :)03:27
rci have both ubuntu 5.10 and windows XP in my laptop. i need to uninstall ubuntu first since i need to have more disk space for windows since i need it in my work. i plan to just install ubuntu back after  finish doing my project. how do i remove ubuntu in my system without losing my current windows XP? thanks.03:27
mustard5tony_, you been to the ubuntuforums?03:27
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lowman62why would you want .NET?03:27
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mustard5lowman62, I think Katie^ is trying to install some software in wine...03:28
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guillem101rc, usually by formatting partitions used by ubuntu. But be careful, since you may format the wrong partition if you don't think twice :-P03:28
Ngrc: boot into windows and use some kind of disk partitioning tool to reformat the ubuntu partitions as ntfs, or resize your windows partition over the top of them03:28
tony_mustard5: Yes!  they are great. just needed to here it would be ok from someone :)03:28
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Katie^well disc2phone says you need that software, when i click ok, to continue with the installation, /nothing/ happens :(03:28
takedown_rc: u can delete linux partition with partion magick for example03:29
lowman62Katie^: i dunno if that will install using wine maybe try crossover03:29
Katie^crossover?03:29
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mustard5I just wonder what partition grub is installed on on rc's system03:29
lowman62Katie^: i will get you the page one sec03:29
devwalrocketman327: still up?03:29
Katie^ty03:30
devwalwoops03:30
rctakedown: i have partition magic 8.0. but, isnt deleting the linux partition result to not being able to boot into windows? since GRUB would be deleted too?03:30
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mikulwhere can i find the file where i can see witch ports are used by (or open for) every different program?03:30
takedown_rc: thats right03:30
Katie^*which, *cackles* :p03:30
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foresightthere's a witch in the ports ?03:30
takedown_rc: u need windows cd for recovering mbr03:31
mikulspelling 2k :P03:31
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lowman62Katie^: here it is check the professional version http://www.codeweavers.com/03:31
Katie^I have to pay for it03:31
tony_mustard5: thanx for thehelp!!03:32
rctakedown: can i safely remove ubuntu w/out losing XP by manually partioning the partitions. i'll boot using the ubuntu cd again, then delete the linux partition.. after that, il choose the windows partition ang change it to BOOTABLE. is this right?03:32
thegladiator #ubuntu is: Official Ubuntu support channe03:32
thegladiatorcool03:32
lowman62Katie^: may i pm you?03:32
thegladiatorthought this is unofficial03:32
Katie^course03:32
Katie^lol03:32
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troghiya03:33
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thegladiatorrc, u didnt like ubuntu?03:33
estudiantehola03:33
Ophiocus!es03:33
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:33
takedown_rc: u cant delete ubuntu without lose a grub03:33
troganyone have any experience setting patching so that you can you use kismet with the orinoco card?03:33
Ophiocusarf03:33
thegladiatorjust for the recors does ubuntu have a uninstallation program?03:33
Katie^any of you play inselkampf?03:33
Set!no03:33
ubotuAhh, too bad, I really thought so...03:34
mustard5thegladiator, not that I know of03:34
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thegladiatorshouldnt that be included  ? so that users can safely remove ubuntu as well ?03:34
Ophiocusdoes windows have one thegladiator ?03:34
rctakedown: yep, in deleting ubuntu, ill loose grub but if i change windows xp to bootable, that would enable me to boot to windows ryt?03:34
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sudharsh!ubotu03:35
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.03:35
thegladiatorOphiocus, Ophiocus i am asking since ubuntu creates a grb03:35
Ophiocusos dont uninstall,. you replace them with another one03:35
thegladiatorgrub*03:35
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thegladiatorwindows XP can be uninstalled yes03:35
thegladiatorah i see03:35
Ophiocusuninstalled? the os? how?03:35
thegladiatorXP can be downgraded to 9803:35
thegladiatorOphiocus, thats what they call uninstallation03:36
mustard5rc, you might be best doing a search in the ubuntuforums for others who have done it03:36
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takedown_rc: nope03:36
takedown_rc: u have only 1 way03:36
Ophiocusthat means you can install 98 over xp,. thats diferent03:36
mustard5rc, I've seen threads in there on the subject03:36
thegladiatoryes that one03:36
trogwhat does "scripts/basic/fixdep.c:105:23: sys/types.h: No such file or directory03:36
trog" mean during the make modules command?03:36
sudharshOphiocus: i suppose thers an option in Add or remove Programs03:36
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takedown_rc: delete linux partition, boot from windows install CD and choose recover console, type fixmbr in console and u have bootable windows03:37
thegladiatorsudharsh, i think thats when you have 98 as well03:37
Profichillahiho03:37
Ophiocusi am still to find an os that says "click here to render your computer utterly useless"03:37
pfarmertrog: it means you missing the "sys/types.h" file03:37
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sudharshthegladiator: when u install xp over 9803:37
rctakedow: thanks03:37
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sudharshbeen 2 years though03:37
thegladiatorsudharsh, hardly can any OS remvoe itself :) thats cutting cutting a branch of tree while working on it03:37
maduranga55hello03:37
thegladiatoryes only that sudharsh . othersie no facility o remove03:37
Ophiocussudharsh, i have looked long and hard into it,. never seen "remove windows and all its components"03:37
pfarmertrog: have you got libc6-dev installed?03:38
takedown_rc: np03:38
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trogpfarmer ill look03:38
rctakedown: does having 2 os affect my battery? since when i just had xp, battery lasts 2 hours and 15 mins.. now, it just lasts 1 hr and a half03:38
sudharshOphiocus: must be like 'revert to blah blah'...dont remember though03:38
thegladiatoryes no OS has it perhaps . but grub shud be removed ...some progr shud be there...i always wanted to program a grub gen03:38
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thegladiatora program that generated grub03:38
MarlunAnyone know of any app where you can get history of your internet connection status, for example when It has gone down, etc?03:38
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troginstalling it now03:39
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sudharshMarlun: i think ethereal does it....not sure03:39
thegladiatorsudharsh, are you in any LUG ?03:39
thegladiatorfrom chennai ?03:39
FaTaL-XPhi,  i have a few problems installing nVidia Drivers03:39
sudharshthegladiator: yea ilugc03:39
Marlunsudharsh, thanks, I'll take a look.03:39
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sudharshthegladiator: yes03:40
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mustard5FaTaL-XP, what type of problem?03:40
takedown_rc: i dont know, i dont use any notebook :)03:40
mustard5FaTaL-XP, you followiing any guides?03:40
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PupenoAre Gnome icons svg ?03:41
takedown_rc: i think OS cant affect to battery03:41
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takedown_rc: its depends on hardware i think03:41
aodio!w32codecs03:41
ubotuI heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install03:41
FaTaL-XPwell to begin with i had none of the libs,    i.e.  GCC, Make, and a ton more,   but i downloaded and installed them,   but now its saying that i have gcc4.0 and the kernal was compiled with gcc3.4 so i got 3.4,  altho it still thinks i have 4.0,   if i ignore that,   it now says i dont have the kernal source ?!?!?!?03:42
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Steve^How can I make ubuntu show my SuSE and XP paritions in the file manager?03:42
CarinArrfatal-xp, then you'll have to install it;)03:42
rctakedown: do you know how to fix the system clock between ubuntu and windows? i'll install ubuntu back after a week and i wish that my clock would be fixed. ex: i use windows now, then use ubuntu, when i go back to windows, my clock has been changed.. does anyone know how to fix this? thanks guys03:42
FaTaL-XPwhere from ?03:42
mustard5FaTaL-XP, you tried installing from synaptic instead?03:42
CarinArrfatal-xp, do uname -r, what does it say?03:42
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FaTaL-XPcan you install nVidia drivers in synaptic ?03:43
mustard5!nvidia03:43
ubotu[nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736803:43
CarinArrbut yeah, you might want to try to install the drivers through synaptic first, cause it's a lot easier03:43
mustard5FaTaL-XP, yes03:43
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mustard5FaTaL-XP, check the link from ubotu above03:43
rcmustard5: why is it that wireless connection is very fast when i use ubuntu than windows xp? or is having lesser programs in my ubuntu partition the reason?03:43
FaTaL-XPok03:43
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mustard5rc, I have no idea...I'm on dialup rc :)03:44
takedown_rc: hm i dont know, i dont see that problem before..., btw u can use ntp synchronization on ubuntu and win03:44
Ngrc: the number of programs you have installed has no relation on wireless speed03:44
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Ngrc: it's probably because the windows and linux drivers are different03:44
rcwhats ntp synchronization by the way?03:44
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takedown_rc: network time protcol03:45
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johnkinganybody home?03:45
mustard5everyone is home03:45
takedown_rc: in windows double click on time03:45
rchow do i do that takedown? i would appreciate if you teach me how. i love windows and i like ubuntu too. i just want to solve my time problem03:45
rctakedown: then?03:46
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johnkingI have a project to setup a "Forum Server" and I have no clue where to begin any help?03:46
takedown_rc: and find menu about synchronization, i forgot where place it03:46
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mustard5!lamp03:47
ubotulamp is, like, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP03:47
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takedown_rc: default installation of ubuntu use ntp synchronization03:47
takedown_rc: and windows too03:47
mustard5johnking, try that link from ubotu on lamp03:47
pfarmerjohnking: sudo apt-get install phpbb203:47
takedown_!ntp03:47
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ntp is Network Time Protocol. Install 'ntpdate' for a simple ntp client.03:47
rctakedown: so after locating the menu about synchronization, what would i do next?03:48
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takedown_rc: u can write some ntp server, for default windows used windows ntp server03:49
Katie^who wants to read a installation error log?03:49
Katie^to see how i can fix it03:49
mustard5Katie^, put it in the pastebin03:49
Katie^whats the site?03:49
mustard5!pastebin03:49
ubotuhmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org03:49
jbroome!paste03:50
ubotupaste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text03:50
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CarinArrrc, was your question just why ubuntu is quicker than win?03:50
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takedown_rc: in ubuntu u can check use ubuntu time sync or no03:50
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rcCarinArr: something like that. wireless is faster in ubuntu03:51
rctakedown: where will i check that?03:51
Katie^http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/700103:51
CarinArrrc, i've found that as well.. might be windows reserve bandwidth for some random reason03:51
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takedown_rc: type ntpdate in console and u can see it in startup scripts takedown@breezy:~/mp3$ ls /etc/init.d/ |grep ntp03:51
takedown_ntpdate03:51
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flogistonI get fault when opening vim.03:51
CarinArrflogiston, what fault?03:52
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Katie^okay03:52
CarinArrif it's multiple lines don't paste it in here03:52
Katie^some of it's missing03:52
flogistonCouldn't open file /tmp/v90946/003:52
rctakedown: 12 Jan 22:52:12 ntpdate[8254] : no servers can be used, exiting03:52
Katie^can't i just sned the file to someone03:52
Katie^lol03:52
flogistonWheres the paste bin for #ubuntu?03:53
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johnkingThank guys for your help03:53
Katie^!paste03:53
Ngflogiston: it's in the topic03:53
ubotuI guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text03:53
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takedown_rc: u have ntpdate in startup scripts folder?03:53
takedown_rc: typa witch ntpdate03:53
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takedown_rc: type*03:53
Ngdo you mean "which ntpdate"?03:53
flogistonI'm getting swedish error message so im not sure what it says in english but i'll try to write it.03:53
Katie^is there a program where i can let one of you guys "into" my computer to sort it03:53
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Katie^lol03:53
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mustard5Katie^, I have no idea what the installation log means..sorry03:54
rctakedown: comman witch not found03:54
mustard5Katie^, someone else might know what it all means03:54
takedown_rc: yea right, sry which ntdate03:54
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jendaDoes anyone know how to use a "loop device" with dvd::rip?03:54
NgKatie^: you could install an ssh daemon, but it's not a great idea to let random people off the internet onto your computer03:54
takedown_damn ntpdate :)03:54
Ngrc: try "which ntpdate"03:54
SilverSpace:)03:55
flogistonCarinArr: are you familiar witht the fault?03:55
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sudharshntpate gives a no server found error03:55
TrackilizerHey guys.03:55
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Katie^Anyone know about installation errors?03:55
TrackilizerNeed your help.03:55
rctakedown: /usr/sbin/ntpdate03:55
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_jasonTrackilizer, ask away03:56
jendaTrackilizer: Ask, don't ask to ask :)03:56
shad0w1emy remote machine has "gone to sleep" when I "putty" into it, the terminal just sits there.. but doesnt give me any errors, just a blank screen. is there any way to "wake it up" from here? Thanks03:56
TrackilizerRe-installed windows and now GRUB is gone, how do i restore it?03:56
CarinArrflogiston, is " Couldn't open file /tmp/v90946/0" all it says?03:56
mustard5!grub03:56
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting03:56
TrackilizerI'm in the ubuntu live cd now.03:56
mixandgoTrackilizer, grub-install ?03:56
sudharshTrackilizer: u hav the bootdisk??03:56
mustard5Trackilizer, check the second link in ubotu's message above03:56
CarinArrflogiston, and is taht when you try to run vim without any arguments?03:56
flogistonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/700203:56
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CarinArrlooking03:57
flogistonNo arguments.03:57
jendaTrackilizer: You can use the install CD, expert mode, and sip to "installing bootloader"03:57
jenda*skip even03:57
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flogistonIt the same when i try to open a file or when i just run "vim"03:57
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CarinArrflogiston, can you paste the contents of /urs/share/vim/vimrc in there as well?03:57
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Trackilizerok, i'll do that,does it matter if the the installation CD is hoary and not breezy?03:57
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flogistonWait a second.03:57
rounehow do u uninstall ubuntu? coz i wanted to try slamd64, and i removed a partition named linux, but ubuntu still exists ^^03:58
e_machinistIs anyone else having trouble updating their repository information?03:58
takedown_rc: ok type vim /etc/default/ntpdate03:58
flogistonThe whole vimrc?03:58
ryancasimiro_takedown: got dc03:58
CarinArrflogiston, yeah03:58
e_machinistroune, just format the HDD that Ubuntu is on.03:58
Nge_machinist: nope, if you're using a mirror, try a different one?03:58
gnomefreakroune, you should beable to use the slam cd to format the linux partions03:58
CarinArrflogiston, or at least up to row 5803:59
FaTaL-XPam not sure if i am running 386 or 686 kernal,  how do i find out ?03:59
gnomefreak^^^ without ever hearing about slamd03:59
takedown_ryancasimiro_: what means dc?03:59
mustard5FaTaL-XP, uname -r03:59
flogistonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/700503:59
e_machinistNg, not using a mirror, that is the strange part.03:59
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rounegnonefreak, well, that should be the partition named linux? im running both linux and windows, and i dont want to delete the windows partition, ^^03:59
e_machinistWait a minute...03:59
ryancasimiro_takedown: what would i do next? got " disconnected from irc"03:59
Nge_machinist: hmm, well I'm using the UK mirror (gb.archive.ubuntu.com) and it seems to be ok03:59
_jasone_machinist, someone was having trouble with the canadian mirror yesterday03:59
flogistonThe file in /tmp that vim is complaining about does not exist.03:59
FaTaL-XPthanks mate03:59
mustard5FaTaL-XP, np04:00
ryancasimiro_takedown: # servers to check.   (Separate multiple servers with spaces.)04:00
ryancasimiro_#NTPSERVERS="pool.ntp.org"04:00
ryancasimiro_NTPSERVERS="ntp.ubuntulinux.org"04:00
ryancasimiro_#04:00
ryancasimiro_# additional options for ntpdate04:00
ryancasimiro_#NTPOPTIONS="-v"04:00
ryancasimiro_NTPOPTIONS="-u"04:00
Trackilizerok, thanks everyone....04:00
jbroome!tell ryancasimiro_ about paste04:00
takedown_hm04:00
mustard5ryancasimiro_, paste in the pastebin pls04:00
e_machinisthaha... man.. I'm retarded, I forgot to turn my firewall off before updating the package information.04:00
rounegnomefreak, i tried, i tired, and i removed the partition named linux, then made a new, and then formated it, but ubuntu still exists ^^04:00
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gnomefreakroune, depending on what partioner you are using it should be the one that says ext2/3 or even with the swap attached04:00
ryancasimiro_sori, im new here04:01
takedown_ok04:01
takedown_ryancasimiro_: type /etc/init.d/ |grep ntp04:01
flogistonCarinArr, What to you think?04:01
CarinArrflogiston, hmm..04:01
aba-ls /etc/init.d |grep ntp04:01
gnomefreakroune,  did you try deleing the partions totally and remaking it with the slam partioner?04:01
e_machinistroune, all you really need to do is delete all partitions on your drive, format the drive, fix your master boot record and then proceed to install slam... That way you are starting fresh.04:01
CarinArrflogiston, right.. someone else might know more than me, but i would try commenting out lines 56-6504:01
_jasonflogiston, why does it say /urs instead of /usr in your paste04:02
ryancasimiro_takedown: so i'l exit from the previos one? okay, wait04:02
takedown_ryancasimiro_: right, forget ls :)04:02
rounegnomefreak, okay, then i was thing about another thing, becouse i installed slamd64, and they asked me if i wanted to add lilo to the masterbootrecord thing i think, but i said no, becouse i already have grub, if i installed lilo to, doesnt that mean trouble? ^^04:02
flogistonBecaus i get error message in swedish and i translated it-04:02
CarlFKsvn shows: svnlook: error: cannot set LC_ALL locale; environment variable LANG is en_GB.UTF-8; please check that your locale name is correct04:03
flogistonI happend to write it wrong.04:03
takedown_ryancasimiro_: yes, type :q! to quit from vim04:03
flogistonIr should be usr04:03
gnomefreakroune, i never had issues with using lilo instead of grub04:03
e_machinistroune, you will have to edit grub to not see ubuntu and to see slam04:03
cat_hi when i run apt-get to download debs ,exactly what download tools have been used ?it is wget ?04:03
_jasonflogiston, oh04:03
CarlFKI think that is a server side thing.  anyone know what "locale name" is?04:03
ryancasimiro_takedown: /etc/init.d/: is a directory04:03
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DeathWatch_nas04:03
gnomefreakcat_, APT is the package manager04:03
rounegnomefreak, but if i already have grub install, and then install lilo, and havnt removed grub, wont that couse trouble?04:03
takedown_cat_: yep04:03
MarcNcat_: some http library built into apt04:03
takedown_ryancasimiro_: ls /etc/init.d/ |grep ntp, just forget ls :)04:04
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e_machinistroune, that is why you should fix the MBR before you install the new distro.04:04
cat_APT is  the package manager ,and wget download all the files ?04:04
takedown_gnomefreak: apt used wget for download pakages04:04
rounee_machinist, well, i dont know how to :D04:05
CarinArrflogiston, does commenting out those lines make any difference?04:05
gnomefreaktakedown_, yes it should but the tool itself that it uses is APT04:05
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flogistonCaringArr, with comment you meen put " infront of the line?04:05
CarinArryeah04:05
e_machinistroune, do you have Windows XP on one of your disks or partitions?04:05
cat_is there a way to change the default download manager wget to something others ?04:05
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rounee_machinist, yes i do :P04:05
ryancasimiro_takedown: it just showed ntpdate04:06
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gnomefreaki htought when the person said tool after apt-get i thought they meant what pm04:06
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takedown_ryancasimiro_: hm then i dont know, all looks fine04:06
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e_machinistroune, the easiest way to fix it then is to insert your installation disc for XP, and boot from the cd, after it loads, press R to start the recovery console, log into the recovery console and type fixmbr, press y for yes.04:06
PMantisWhat coutry is Canonical, Ltd from?04:07
takedown_ryancasimiro_: u have internet connection from u ubuntu?04:07
e_machinistIt will erase the boot loader altogether, then you can proceed to install slam and let it install Lilo.04:07
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rounee_machinist, thanks, i will write that down ;P04:07
e_machinistroune, heh.04:07
flogistonCarinArr: at least im not getting any error message04:07
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CarinArrflogiston, does it start okay?04:08
flogistonyepp04:08
takedown_cat_: i think it impossible and why u want to change it?04:08
flogistonNow i just want to activate row numbering and im happy^^04:08
ryancasimiro_takedown: my problem is with windows i think. im using ubuntu now. if i boot to windows next time, time will be incorrect. usually delayed by 8hrs even if time is correct when i used windows the last time04:08
cat_takedown_: wget is not fast i think04:08
CarinArrflogiston, cool.. i always set up my own .vimrc in my home directory, and it overrides the default one04:09
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trappistme too04:09
flogistonThat sounds safer.04:09
takedown_cat_: lol, downloading speed not a depend on download manager04:09
flogistonThe only thing that i uncommented is syntax highlighting.04:09
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trappistflogiston: here's mine: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/home/dot_vimrc04:10
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flogistonCarinArr, can you post the default to?04:10
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CarinArrflogiston, what do you mean?04:10
takedown_cat_: its depends only on u internet connection04:10
flogistonThe original vimrc04:11
cat_takedown_:not really ,some download manager is design to have multi-threading feather04:11
flogistonThe one that comes by default installation04:11
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PMantisif the Isle of Man part of the United Kingdom ? (Canonical address)04:11
CarinArrflogiston, i'm on my suse machine in the office atm and i'm not sure it even has a default vimrc04:11
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trappistcat_: wget will happily saturate your pipe, and multi-threading doesn't fatten your pipe at all04:11
flogistonOkey.04:11
mcphailI've stupidly deleted /var/log/ (a directory I don't back up). I assume there is no recovery bar re-installation?04:11
CarinArrflogiston, it has a vimrc_example, but that's it04:11
flogistonthink thats the same.04:11
mcphail*/var/lib04:12
flogistonI'll be fine with mine now.04:12
takedown_ryancasimiro_: so i dont know something else about it, u can find some info in google04:12
flogistonTrappist; do you know how to show row numbers in wim?04:12
sudharshcat_: try d4x04:12
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CarinArrflogiston, set number04:12
ryancasimiro_takedown: okie thanks so much04:12
eva_hi04:12
midwinterPMantis, yes, probably for tax reasons or something though..04:13
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cat_sudharsh:yeah i mean d4x ,but how to replace wget ?04:13
sudharshdo use firefox04:13
flogistoni cant find it04:13
flogistonDo i have to ad it myselfe?04:13
CarinArrflogiston, you just need to put "set number"04:13
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jvNETsomething is wrong with my Firefox04:13
CarinArrflogiston, make a .vimrc file in your homedirectory, and put "set number" in there04:13
sudharshcat_: use flashgot extension for firefox and u r set04:14
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jvNET/opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  8552 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}04:14
trappistflogiston: set number04:14
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PMantismidwinter, I was wondering about mailing address. :)04:14
sudharshjvNET: u shouldnt run tthat04:14
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_jasonjvNET, what version04:14
jvNET1.504:14
PMantismidwinter, I think what I have is good enough...04:14
_jasonjvNET, are you running SCIM?04:14
sudharsh!firefox 1.504:14
jvNETim using it until i reboot my pc04:14
ubotusudharsh: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!04:14
cat_sudharsh: thanks but it goes far away to my destiny04:14
jvNETwhats SCIM?04:14
flogistonshouldn't there be a .vim in ~?04:14
sudharsh!firefox 1.504:14
midwinterPMantis, yeah shouldn't be hard to find an address for them..04:15
trappistflogiston: .vimrc04:15
FaTaL-XPwell in installed nvidia drivers via synaptic,   but when i rebooted the X-Server it does not show the nVidia logo like it says it should,     any ideas ?04:15
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CarinArrflogiston, my .vimrc in my homedirectory looks like this: http://www.cs.bath.ac.uk/~ccem20/.vimrc04:15
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PMantismidwinter, Yeah: http://www.canonical.com/contact04:15
flogistonok04:15
cello_raspwhy doesnt my Super_L key work anymore?04:15
jvNETi really dont know what happend to my firefox04:15
sudharshjvNET: try this https://www.wiki.ubuntu.org/FirefoxNewversion04:15
PMantismidwinter, But doens't say country. Apparently, Isle of Man is a country by itself? Hmmmm04:15
CarinArrfatal-xp, you need to make sure your xorg.conf is set up properly04:15
takedown_FaTaL-XP: u need to replace "nv" to "nvidia" in u xorg.conf in video section04:16
jvNETI was using it with no problems, until I rebooted my Pc04:16
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FaTaL-XPhrmm04:16
jvNETI can't open firefox.. Y_Y04:16
CarinArrfatal-xp, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074 <- look at that, it tells you exactly what you need to do04:16
flogistonWhat does everything do?04:16
foresightlowman62, there ?04:16
sudharshjvNET: try running the firefox-bin thingy04:16
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woodywartyHi all04:17
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ryancasimiro_takedown: last question: how do i choose the right resolution for my laptop? screen resolution just have 3 choices but my laptop uses a higher resolution. how do i change my screen resolution?04:17
_jasonflogiston, you might want to read this, it is similar to your error before: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-8372.html04:17
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e_machinistwoodywarty: holla04:17
woodywartyHow do I enable scripts so that I can run them at Startup in Ubuntu ?04:17
sudharshjvNET: follow the instructions if u r upgrading from ff 1.0.7 to 1.504:17
FaTaL-XPok so just change Driver"nv"    to Driver"nvidia"04:17
sudharshcheck this out04:17
cello_rasphow do install kde programs?04:18
jvNETyes I did the instruction04:18
sudharshin the wiki page?04:18
takedown_ryancasimiro_: hm i think u can use menu in u kde\gnome(just i dont use that) or u can configure it manualy04:18
e_machinistcello_rasp: apt or the K implementation of Synaptic...04:18
jvNETyes04:18
sudharshhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion....<----this link?04:18
_jasoncello_rasp, I think you use 'adept', try #kubuntu04:19
sudharshoh okie dokie04:19
jvNETi think so... i copied it under gedit04:19
cello_raspthx, i'm trying to have kde programs over gnome :)04:19
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sudharshwhat does simply running 'firefox' in terminal say?04:19
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woodywartySo can somebody tell me how to enable scripts to run at Startup ???04:19
woodywartyPlease help04:19
jvNET/opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  8786 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}04:19
e_machinistKDE programs over gnome? GNOME missing something that you need?04:19
trappistwoodywarty: to run as root at bootup, or as you at login?04:20
sudharshjvNET: ushouldnt run dat04:20
woodywartyTrappits, to run at bootup04:20
ryancasimiro_takedown: its not in the options when i use the GUI04:20
CarinArrflogiston, right.. syntax on turns on syntax highlighting, background=dark makes the colour choices suitable for dark background terminals, tabstop=3 makes tabs 3 characters wide, shiftwidth=3 number of spaces used for autoindent, backspace=2 sets the backspace mode, showcmd shows the command characters, autoindent and smartindent has to do with automatic indentation, incsearch enables incremental search, and number enables line numbers04:20
sudharshtry creatinf a symlink of firefox in /opt in /usr/bin04:20
ryancasimiro_takedown: how do i reconfigure it in the terminal?04:20
jvNETok i'll try04:20
sudharshjvNET: i guess u didnt follow the instructions in the page properly04:21
takedown_ryancasimiro_: try type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:21
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jvNETI was using that step few months ago04:21
ryancasimiro_can't use Totem movie player that comes with ubuntu. totem could not start up.. video ouput is in use... etc.. does any1 know about this?04:21
trappistwoodywarty: check out /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh04:21
flogistondoes the vimrc in my ~ override the one in /usr/share/vim/vimrc without setting anything up?04:21
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sudharshjvNET: r u sure??/04:22
jvNETyes04:22
CarinArrflogiston, i _think_ so.. but i'm not sure.. have a look at the vim manual, it should tell you04:22
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sudharshk...do this 'sudo ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox'04:22
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sudharshthen...04:22
CarinArrflogiston, if you're not fussed about the global vimrc file you can just rename it and it won't be used04:23
sudharshdid u do the dpkg-divert thingy04:23
jvNETfiles exist04:23
_jasonflogiston, I think it just augments it.  It's run in addition to the /etc/vim/vimrc04:23
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sudharshjvNET: sudo dpkg-divert --divert /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu --rename /usr/bin/firefox04:23
takedown_ryancasimiro_: but i think u cant use another resolution if u dont have modeline in u xorg.conf04:23
CarinArr_jason might be right04:23
CarinArrinfact that would make sense04:23
woodywartyTrappist, isn't there a easier way to start scripts at Boot-up ???04:23
flogistondoes the vimrc work even when hiding it? like .vimrc in my ~04:24
jvNETthen sudo ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox right?04:24
sudharshyes04:24
_jasonflogiston, that's how I have it04:24
flogistonThanks04:24
Belutzwhere's the file setting for network profile created by network-admin?04:24
CarinArrflogiston, naming it vimrc wouldn't work.. it needs the . before04:24
trappistwoodywarty: probably, but I don't know what it is in ubuntu.  in redhat it used to be /etc/rc.local04:24
jvNETfile exist still04:24
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sudharshk try this 'mv /usr/bin/firefox /usr/bin/firefox-backup04:24
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purplefeltangelcan someone tell me how to install a font?04:25
sudharshwith sudo of course04:25
CarinArranyhoo.. need to go pick my dog up04:25
CarinArrlaters!04:25
sudharshpurplefeltangel: copy the fonts in fotns:///04:25
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FaTaL-XPdone that,  am still getting now nvidia logo :(04:25
sudharsh*fonts:///04:25
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javaTardI can't seem to find a list of supported wireless cards for laptops, is in on the ubuntu site and I am just not finding it in search?04:25
ryancasimiro_takedown: im not in. im not at the option whre i would choose the video modes to use.. only 3 screen resolutions are chosen. how do i chooce a screen resolution.. how do i mark it?04:25
jvNETstill geting mv /usr/bin/firefox /usr/bin/firefox-backup04:25
jvNETxsend04:25
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sudharsh???04:25
jvNETstill geting this : /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  8989 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}04:25
_jasonjavaTard, search the wiki.ubuntu.com04:26
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sudharshjvNET: dont run run-mozilla.sh04:26
purplefeltangelsudharsh: thxu04:26
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sudharshjvNET: run fireox-bin04:26
trappistFaTaL-XP: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, in the "Device" section, put this:  Option "NoLogo" "True"04:26
sudharshelse make a launcher in the desktop that points to it04:26
jvNETlet me try04:26
FaTaL-XPsorry,  i ment,  am not getting an nvidia logo04:27
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ryancasimiro_takedown: whats that?04:27
smash3rhello! I would like some help to mount my dvd-rom since I tried many times to mount it and that it seems to be not recongnized by ubuntu (any issue with sony dvd burners?)04:27
cello_rasphow do i make mount executable by users?04:28
takedown_ryancasimiro_: try my method: type gtf and write u resolution like this gtf 1024x768@100 and u got a modeline and copy that modeline to xorg.conf04:28
jvNEThow do you run firefox-bin? if i type "firefox" in terminal, i will get this : /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  8989 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}04:28
FaTaL-XPi have followed all the instruction to install the nvidia drivers,   but i am not getting a logo,   so am not sure they are workin ?04:28
sudharshu hav the wrong symlimk04:29
ryancasimiro_takedown: thats the resolution i want to use04:29
trappistFaTaL-XP: you can tell if they're working if this gives you a 'yes': glxinfo | grep rendering04:29
cello_raspsmash3r: i dunno about sony - they tend to be fine -  but check out fstab04:29
ryancasimiro_takedown: okay, ill try04:29
jvNETbut i was using firefox 1.5 for almost 3days now04:29
sudharshjvNET dont run the script....run fiefox executable04:29
sudharshwell..try it04:29
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smash3rFaTaL-XP: have you tried this? -> "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"04:30
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FaTaL-XPok,  excellent guys,  thanks for your help,     will GL appz work now ?04:30
ryancasimiro_takdown: gtf comman not found04:30
jvNET"sh firefox-bin" under /opt/firefox - firefox-bin: firefox-bin: cannot execute binary file04:30
_jasonjvNET, I doubt this will work but try: 'firefox -safe-mode'04:30
smash3rcello_rasp: I checked the fstab and my hdc isnt there04:30
takedown_ryancasimiro_: pm me if u need some help04:30
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trappistFaTaL-XP: did you get a yes?04:30
FaTaL-XPyes04:30
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trappistthen yes :)04:31
joe_alfjvNET: try /opt/firefox/firefox04:31
FaTaL-XPDirect Rendering: Yes04:31
cello_raspsmash3r: try including a line to mount it then :>04:31
sudharshdont include sh04:31
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takedown_ryancasimiro_: try /usr/X11R6/bin/gtf04:31
jvNETsame error04:31
_jasonjvNET, with safe-mode?04:32
sudharshjvNET dont inlcude the 'sh'04:32
sudharshjus /opt/firefox/firefox04:32
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javaTardNevermind, I got it. Thanks04:32
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jvNET@jason,  same error04:32
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ryancasimiro_takedown: something about the resolution came out.. options04:32
jvNETi did not add SH04:32
joe_alfjvNET: type this exactly /opt/firefox/firefox04:32
smash3ranyone got any issue with cd-rom or dvd-rom not being recognized before me here ?04:32
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takedown_ryancasimiro_: try /usr/X11R6/bin/gtf 1024 768 10004:32
jvNET/opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  9311 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}04:33
sudharshsmash3r: what errors r u getting while mountin the disc04:33
sudharshjvNET: dont run-mozilla.sh04:33
jvNETi think my firefox is link with run-mozilla.sh04:33
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sudharshoh oh...04:33
smash3rsudharsh: "hdc doesnt exist" (and its plugged & working on windows side)04:33
jvNETi tried this /opt/firefox/firefox then same run-mozilla.sh error04:33
ryancasimiro_is the refresh rate really 100? what does refresh rate mean by the way? im using a compaq v2000 laptop04:33
joe_alfjvNET: ls -l /opt/firefox/firefox04:34
sudharshsmash3r: what does post say about ur drive04:34
trappistsmash3r: you're sure it's supposed to be hdc?  it's your secondary master drive?04:34
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smash3rsudharsh: how do I check this ?04:34
smash3rtrappist: yes i am04:34
sudharshi mean: primary or secondary04:34
e_machinistAnyone use or have used RealPlayer 10 on Linux? Is it any better than the windows version?04:34
takedown_ryancasimiro_: i dont know its just example04:34
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smash3rmy dvd-rom drive is secondary master04:34
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sudharshr u sure.......04:34
smash3rYES04:35
jvNET-rwxr-xr-x  1 myusername myusername 5239 2005-11-12 08:59 /opt/firefox/firefox04:35
smash3rI plugged it myself04:35
ryancasimiro_i entered it already04:35
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sudharshokie.....dokie....check the fstab04:35
ryancasimiro_whats next04:35
_jasonjvNET, what does 'apt-cache policy scim | grep Installed' return?04:35
takedown_ryancasimiro_: for u need to write u resolution and u refresh rate, dont write unsupported options, u can damage u monitor!04:35
jvNETinstalled (none)04:36
sudharshdoesnt scim hav issues with ff 1.504:36
ryancasimiro_whats u?04:36
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takedown_ryancasimiro_: u can find supported options in u documentations for u notebook04:37
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jvNETi also tried GAIM, but I can't run it either, 'segmentation fault' also04:37
Ngryancasimiro_: "you" or "your", I think ;)04:37
sudharshoh dear..04:37
NgjvNET: if you're getting lots of odd segfaults you should probably test your RAM04:38
sudharshjvNET does firefox and gaim....run propely for other users??04:38
ryancasimiro_takedown: what happened when i entered the code u told me? did it changed something?04:38
Ngif you can, install memtest86+04:38
_jasonjvNET, try logging in as a different user and see if you can run firefox04:38
revelhi, sorry to bug but but.. have tried everything else and get get my kernel to work, tried almost every04:38
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revelpossible combination with and without any patches, all goes ok but when i try to boot new kernel, it loads04:38
jvNETI havnt tried gaim running on other uysers04:38
revelnormally for while.. then BUM ...  http://www.ei-heru.info/kernel1.jpg04:38
jvNETok.. i'll be right back04:39
revelany ideas? its endless loop goes from 0 to 100000000000000 with speed of light :)04:39
jvNETbrb04:39
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takedown_ryancasimiro_: u=you :)04:39
sudharshrevel: u installed the vanilla kernel from kernel.org?04:39
_jasonsudharsh, that's just weird that we thought that at the same time...04:39
revelsud, yes with ck1 patch.04:39
sudharsh:P........gr8 minds think alike04:39
takedown_ryancasimiro_: nope, it can changed if u add this line to xorg.conf in Monitor section04:39
revelsud, tried .14 version with and without patches and .15 same thing, allways same thing :(04:39
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Ngrevel: have you tried applying any of the ubuntu patches?04:40
jvNETomg! same error on other users04:40
NgjvNET: test your RAM04:40
sudharshrevel: ok...u did appy the patches to base kenrel didnt u04:40
jvNEThow do you test RAM?04:40
ryancasimiro_takedown: ah okay.  i just learned right now that i am already using 1024 x 768 right nw and what i want is a resolution of 1280 x 768.04:40
takedown_ryancasimiro_: but dont add this line if u dont know supported that resolution or not for u notebook04:40
NgjvNET: install memtest86+ and a new entry will appear in grub04:40
revelng, havent found any? did everything how explained @ ubuntu forums04:40
sudharshjvNET: boot and run memtest86+ in grub04:40
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takedown_ryancasimiro_: u can damage them...04:40
sudharshthers an option04:40
jvNETic04:41
jvNETok.. let me check that first04:41
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revelsud, with base kernel you mean my new fresh kernel? havent done anything with original one04:41
jvNETthanks guys04:41
jvNETbrb04:41
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takedown_ryancasimiro_: what refresh rate supported with 1280 x 768?04:41
Ngrevel: there's a package with them in... linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.1204:41
sudharshrevel: so u got the 2.6.15 ?04:41
revelsud, only for new ones.. bzcat patchaname.gz | patch -p1 thing04:41
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ryancasimiro_takedown: so nothing happened even i entered the code you told me a while a go... the 1024 768 100 even ... ubuntu is already using that04:41
sudharshrevel: so u got the 2.6.15 ?04:41
wildehi to all. there's someone that knows something about videomobile 3, and how is possible to download photo and video from it at ubuntu????04:42
Ngrevel: I have no idea if they apply to 2.6.15 and I'd advise you not to stray too far from the included kernel unless you have to - some userspace stuff will depend on those patches04:42
revelsud, now trying .14 again, tried .15 too. now i have 2.6.12-10-386 (original) because i cant boot any newer04:42
sudharshwhat bout without patches04:42
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revelng, i need to get new kernel because of cisco vpn client (needs original kernel source, which is not included with ubuntu original kernel)04:43
tharglet'lo.... anyone can tell me where I can get thread.h so I can use mutex_lock?04:43
sudharshwell try without patches then04:43
sudharshi m in m new kernel04:43
revelsud, without any patches, same thing.. /dev/ttyS(numbers) : no such file or dir ...04:43
revelsud, i have tried without patches.04:44
wckdkl0wnhas anyone here installed cedega?04:44
revelcompiled about 10 times now with all possible versions :)04:44
takedown_ryancasimiro_: ask me what refresh rate supported with resolution what u want to use?04:44
thargletIs there a proper place to get it or do I have to hunt it down n just stick it with the other c headers?04:44
sudharshrevel: well....nvr seen anythin like this...cheked with the guyz at kernel.org??04:44
ryancasimiro_takedown: thanks for your help. i dont want to use my desired resolution anymore to be safe. i entered /usr/X11R6/bin/gtf 1024 768 10004:44
ryancasimiro_ in my terminal04:44
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revelsud, nope.04:44
revelasked from ubuntu forum but now answer yet.04:44
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revelhopefully someone figures it out04:45
zAo^when is Flight 3 expected?04:45
ryancasimiro_takedown: wont there be any conflicts with what i have dne since my ubuntu is already using 1024 x 768 with 0 refresh rate04:45
takedown_ryancasimiro_: ok, add this line to xorg.conf in Monitor section(u can delete previous modeline) and restart X04:45
sudharshrevel: i m not that kinda of a expert when it comes to weird problems like this04:45
revelhehe04:45
revelme neither04:45
sudharshsry....check the kernel.org just in case04:45
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revelthis is first channel someone bothers to try tho!04:46
jorgphow well does lvm2 work?04:46
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takedown_ryancasimiro_: wow, 0 refresh rate, really?04:46
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revelasked from local ubuntu / linux channel, such idiots they dont want to help anyone04:46
sudharshyeah i understand...:P04:46
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sudharsh???........i didnt get u04:46
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tharglethmm04:47
revelsud, this channel and you are first who tries to help.04:47
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ryancasimiro_whats this for? i am now contented with my current resolution. i got scared that my monitor will be harmed if i do something wrong..04:47
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sudharshrevel: oh04:47
klipnormally, you can't select a resolution which is bad for your monitor =) @ryan04:48
thargletCan u break ur monitor other than physical abuse?04:48
gnomefreakzAo^, as of 2-3 days ago there was no date set for flight 304:48
sudharshrevel: what does local ubuntu channel maen...excusez moi...new to irc04:48
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woodywartySo guys, how do I enable scripts to run at Boot-Up ?04:48
ryancasimiro_takedown: what is the effect of entering /usr/X11R6/bin/gtf 1024 768 10004:48
ryancasimiro_ in the terminal. ubuntu is already using 1024 x 768 with refresh rate of 004:48
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takedown_ryancasimiro_: ok comment previous modeline and add line got with gtf in Monitor section04:48
revelsud, finnish channel at ircnet04:48
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sudharshoh....ok04:49
zAo^gnomefreak remember it? I saw it on the forums somewhere, but cant find it :) Need a fresh install :#04:49
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pfarmerwoodywarty: you mean like starting a server at boot time?04:49
sudharshbut nice pic though.....04:49
ryancasimiro_what do u min? how do i do that?04:49
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thargletDoes anyone know about c headers, and what ones Ubuntu has?04:49
ZnortHello, I am currently running Ubuntu but sometimes when I am using gaim the window turns black with random colored pixels. When this happens also synaptic, the terminal and kopete aren't useable anymore till reboot. What should I do?04:49
pfarmertharglet: which one's are you after?04:49
sudharshrevel: if u r see if sudo apt-get install linux-tree helps04:50
thargletpfarmer, thread.h04:50
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woodywartyWell pfarmer, I have a script which I want to start at Boot-Up Time04:50
sudharshZnort: do u hav a weird monitor..or a configuration?04:50
woodywartyWhich means that I want that script to start at boot-time when my server restarts each time04:51
revelsud, doesnt.04:51
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takedown_ryancasimiro_: open xorg,conf with some redactor and past that line04:51
sudharshrevel: thers a linux-tree04:51
Znortsudharsh: what you call wierd? =P04:51
BuZzYcome vedo se ho l interpreto perl installato?04:51
BuZzYsorry!!!04:51
zAo^:)04:51
sudharshwhat monitor do u hav04:51
ryancasimiro_takedown: i entered /usr/X11R6/bin/gtf 1024 768 100... ubuntu is using the same resolution with a refresh rate of 0.  im afraid conflicts might happen04:52
Znortphilips 107e04:52
thargletI currently run Ubuntu in a VM, but maybe one day I'll unlazy and make my system dual-boot04:52
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ryancasimiro_takedown: how do i open xorg.conf? sorry takedown im i newbie in ubuntu and doesnt know programming04:52
takedown_ryancasimiro_: gtf dont changed u resolution, its just generate modeline for configuration04:52
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sudharshrevel: also try installing linux-source04:53
nanaemhow do i make a harddisk visible after i've partitioned it as ext3? shall i edit the fstab somehow? just point me in the right direction and maybe i'll figure it out :)04:53
thargletryancasimiro_, I should imagine the only thing that could happen is things don't appear on the screen. I shouldn't imagine it would break anything04:53
takedown_ryancasimiro_: type sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:53
revelsudharsh, there is no source for original kernel.04:53
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gorskii have problemas with my soundcard, what are the default settings in gstreamer-properties, please?04:53
revelsud, i have tried those also04:53
sudharshrevel: theres is in my synaptic04:53
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revelsudharsh, not for my version of kernel :(04:53
gnomefreakzAo^, i havent seen it but will keep eyes open04:54
gnomefreakzAo^, no flight 3 yet i just did google for flight 3 its not been released yet04:54
gnomefreakosnews has an expect something on flight 304:54
sudharshrevel: u  r runnin the default breezy onces...rite?04:54
ryancasimiro_takedown: opened it already. whats next?04:54
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zAo^gnomefreak thnx, I know that it isnt released yet, but I wonder when it will04:54
mcscruffis there a command to see the temperature of my pc?04:54
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PuMpErNiCkLenanaem: Yeah, you'll probably have to edit /etc/fstab... basically, take an entry that's already there, copy it, and change the mount point and physical address.04:54
takedown_ryancasimiro_: type "i"04:54
takedown_ryancasimiro_: and find Monitor Section04:55
revelsud, yes. 2.6.12-10-38604:55
PuMpErNiCkLenanaem: And the filesystem, if it's not ext3.04:55
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sudharshthers is mate...04:55
imc_Anyone successfully running ubuntu breezy on an iBook with WiFi running?04:55
imc_I said, anyone successfully running ubuntu breezy on an iBook with WiFi running?  :)04:55
nanaemok, ty Pumper04:55
frattafciao04:55
ryancasimiro_takedown: then?04:55
PuMpErNiCkLenanaem: np :)04:55
pfarmerwoodywarty: symlink the script into /etc/rc3.d as S99scriptname04:55
frattawhy?04:55
pfarmertharglet: what are you trying to compile?04:55
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frattai love you04:56
keleksi<304:56
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ZnortAnybody has an idea why gaim turns black with random colored pixels all of a sudden?04:56
takedown_ryancasimiro_: type "#" before current modeline04:56
sudharshk gotta bail.........bye04:57
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sudharshrevel: i suggest u check the kernel.org mailing lists04:57
ryancasimiro_takedown: i cant see any current modeline?04:57
thargletpfarmer, a piece of coursework... found a copy of it to put in with the files... hopefully it should work04:57
takedown_ryancasimiro_: and copy modeline generated with gtf04:57
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ryancasimiro_takedown: whats the goal of what we're doing?04:58
pfarmertharglet: try installing apt-file and then running "sudo apt-file update" and then "sudo apt-file search thread.h"04:58
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takedown_ryancasimiro_: find Section Monitor04:59
lukus001Hey everyone, i just installed the new version of ubuntu (breezy badger?) but synaptic package manger wont load up and a few of the other process under system >administration05:00
ryancasimiro_i think we're not thinking the same.. what i want to do is to delete the line that i made i gtf05:00
thargletpfarmer, apt-file ain't vaild05:00
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gnomefreaklukus001, do any of the system>admin apps work?05:01
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wckdkl0wnhow do i kill a program thats running that i cant close?05:01
gorskican somebody help me with sound configuration, please!?05:01
kemikwckdkl0wn: alt+f2 : type xkill and klick program05:01
gorskican somebody help me with sound configuration, please!?05:01
takedown_ryancasimiro_: damn just find Section Monitor in conf05:01
ryancasimiro_takedown: i dont know if im right but when i entered 1024 768 100 in gtk, didnt it edit gtk? i  want o undo that...05:01
_jasonlukus001, does a password prompt appear?05:02
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kemikwckdkl0wn: or in CLI "pkill <applicationname>"05:02
thargletpfarmer, Also found out that header has a bunch of depenancies....05:02
lukus001gonefreak: printer work, but the ones that need a password prompt for a password but never load05:02
pfarmertharglet: you'll need to install the correct package05:02
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thargletpfarmer, yeah - will that be in Synaptic?05:03
lukus001device manager etc.. works... synaptic, networking etc.. dont05:03
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gnomefreaklukus001, are you sure its the right password you are using?05:03
Lil-AbnerGood morning. Can anyone tell what the system requirements are for installing Ubuntu?05:03
kemiklukus001: fire up a terminal and try "sudo -i"05:03
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_jasonlukus001, did you enable root for some reason?05:03
gorskican somebody help me with sound configuration, please!?05:03
lukus001gnomefreak: i only ever use one password05:03
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PuMpErNiCkLeLil-Abner: 386 or compatible machine, or higher.05:04
thargletlukus001, Did u set a root pass, if u need one?05:04
gnomefreak128mb ram help too05:04
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PuMpErNiCkLeLil-Abner: It might be a bit slow on a 386, but it will run.05:04
kemiktharglet: you shouldnt set a rootpass05:04
kemiktharglet: use sudo/gksudo05:04
thargletkemik, Why not?05:04
pfarmertharglet: yeah - but you need to know which package to install - thread.h appears in quite a few packages05:04
lukus001kemik: i tried sudo -i, prompted password, entered, nothing05:04
thargletkemik, That always doesn't work for me05:04
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_jasonlukus001, paste what the command 'groups' returns05:05
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thargletpfarmer, I just need the header... what are the packages it's in?05:05
lukus001tharglet: i remember entering a root password during installation05:05
kemiktharglet: guess you're doing something wrong then :X05:05
kliptharglet: if you always set a rootpass, your system is not as save as with sudo05:05
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thargletlukus001, Hmm, didn't on my Ubuntu05:05
pfarmertharglet: what does the code you're compiling do05:05
thargletklip, Ah well, this is just a VM anyway05:05
kemiklukus001: the installation doesnt ask for a root password05:05
klipthere is a sense why there is a command like sudo : )05:05
lukus001_jason: for sudo -i you mean?05:05
_jasonlukus001, no, normal terminal05:06
Lil-AbnerPuMpErNickle: Thanks. I have a P2 with 450mhz, 512mb memory, and 13Gb hdd.05:06
gnomefreaklukus001, the installer never asks for a root password05:06
thargletkemik, If this gets hacked to bits, there's no sensitive info in it, lol05:06
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LostFrogLil-Abner: that is more than sufficient.05:06
lukus001gnomefreak, even in expert install?05:06
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lukus001_jason, what o you mean by command groups then :s05:06
kemiktharglet: sure, still there are reasons to not be root, like, it's harder to accidentally wipe /etc ;)05:06
ZnortDid anybody succeed in emulatiog windows via wine the way that World of Warcraft is playable?05:06
gnomefreaklukus001, it shouldnt no05:07
gnomefreak!rootsudo05:07
uboturumour has it, rootsudo is explained at  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo   also see /msg ubotu root05:07
Lil-AbnerI just ordered the disks. I have a linux system on it now, but as a newbie to linux, it's a litte difficult to get the thing working right.05:07
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_jasonlukus001, go to accessories -> terminal and type 'groups', that's all :)05:07
nikls_something is wrong in this syntax, can someone tell me where is the error ? => wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/scim/scim*05:07
balzachello05:07
klipZnort: I know that Starcraft and Warcraft 3 run on with WinE05:07
kemiklukus001: type 'groups' in a terminal05:07
lukus001Gnomefreak, well it did say i should set up a root password and asked for it, then asked me to set up a user... so shoud i be setting up a root password now somehow?05:07
thargletkemik, I have snapshots for me breaking my system :D And the 3 files I care about I back up05:07
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balzaci'm having one hell of a time trying to install my Intel 537EP modem on breezy05:07
arrinmurrZnort: try #winehq05:07
lukus001lukus001@Verpix:~$ groups05:07
lukus001lukus001 adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner05:07
klipZnort: It'r form Blizzard, too, should work somehow.05:07
kemikZnort: i think Cedega works good with WoW05:07
gorskican somebody help me with sound configuration, please!?05:08
balzaci installed gcc 3.4, gcc 3.4 base and cpp 3.405:08
Znortklip: Thank you. Some people seem to have succeeded in it05:08
ZnortIt should work with wine05:08
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_jasonlukus001, you aren't a part of the admin group which is why you have no superuser privileges05:08
kemiktharglet: so do i... :)05:08
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balzaci did CC=gcc-3.4 , Export CC05:08
_jasonlukus001, is this the user account you created during install?05:08
balzacthen tried to compile the driver05:08
balzacno dice!05:08
lukus001_jason, yeah05:08
thargletkemik, if I ever dualboot my system, I'll get my sudo to behave05:08
woland_anyone got a guide to installing vmware on ubuntu?05:08
Lil-AbnerThanks, all. What irc program is bundled with ubuntu? I'm using mIRC on this machine and kopete on the linux machine.05:09
_jasonlukus001, we're going to have to add your user back into the admin group05:09
thargletwoland_, lol, I've done that the other way around....05:09
balzacxchat05:09
thargletLil-Abner, xchat05:09
_jasonlukus001, are you able to get superuser privileges some other way so that we can edit /etc/group?  or will we have to boot up a livecd?05:09
zAo^woland_ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare?highlight=%28vmware%29  ....05:09
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zAo^wiki people..05:09
pfarmertharglet: the list of packages - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/700605:09
kemik_jason: you can boot in recovery/safe mode from grub ... no need for the livecd i think05:10
lukus001_jason not a clue i'm afiad?05:10
Lil-AbnerThank you, tharglet. I'm going to go offline, thanks again for the information and I look forward to being a part of the ubuntu family! bye05:10
_jasonkemik, what are you supposed to do when it prompts for a root password?  I never figured that out05:10
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kemik_jason: dont think it prompts for a password.. at least it didnt here05:10
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woland_thanks zAo^05:11
_jasonkemik, oh, maybe I missed a setting.  If you can guide lukus001 throught it, that would work.  otherwise we can just use the livecd lukus00105:11
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thargletpfarmer, how can I get the packages? Or install them?05:11
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kemik_jason: cant really guide him thru, sitting in windows now cus i have to record stuff :|05:12
thargletpfarmer, Thought it was just something like apt-get <fname>05:12
pfarmertharglet: apt-get install <packagename> - but you don't want all those packages05:12
_jasonlukus001, okay, can you boot your computer up from the livecd and then rejoin us here in irc?05:12
kemik_jason: so go with the livecd approach =) (or just try booting up in safe mode, it's an option in the grub-menu)05:12
zAo^gnomefreak https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight3?highlight=%28flight%29  huh??05:12
pfarmertharglet: you need to be clearer on what this code does so someone can tell which thread.h you need05:12
thargletpfarmer, I'm gonna get the c++ header one05:12
gnomefreakhold on ill look05:12
lukus001_jason i dont have a live cd, only the normal install one (i burnt the cd myself05:12
lukus001_jason so id have to download it first05:13
thargletpfarmer, the cpp header should do the job05:13
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_jasonlukus001, ok05:13
thargletpfarmer, couldn't find package :'(05:13
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gorskican somebody help me with sound configuration, please!?05:13
lukus001_jason but, on the other hand i want to dual boot with a second installation of linux, ubuntu again - if i did that and set it up properly.. lol i could edit the other partition?05:14
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pfarmertharglet: do a "sudo apt-get install libsigc++-dev05:14
PuMpErNiCkLegorski: What's the problem?05:14
_jasonlukus001, yeah probably05:14
kemikwhat's the package called that customizes GiMP to behave like Photoshop `05:14
kemik?05:14
veriza2enmod fcgid05:14
gorskii can get my mic working05:14
thargletpfarmer, Tried that one too :(05:14
verizhow i can disable a2enmod fcgid?05:14
siliconwizzardI'm trying to download and install GDM themes off the web. I save the tar.gz files and when I try and install them I get "INVALID FILE FORMAT" can anybody help? thx05:14
kemikgorski: state your question05:14
kemikgorski: try "alsamixer" and enable the 2nd mic-option05:15
lukus001_jason, do you know how to install a second linux OS?05:15
thargletpfarmer, am I a repository short or something?05:15
_jasonlukus001, I have no experience doing it, sry05:15
lukus001_jason okay, np ty for your help05:15
gnomefreakzAo^, they are not added to server yet but looks like this week sometime05:15
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PuMpErNiCkLelukus001: I do.05:15
tonyyarussoI'm having some trouble with suspend, where it never gets all the way sleeping and comes back immediatly.  # tail /var/log/acpid mentions grep: /proc/acpi/fan/*/state: No such file or directory.  What should I do?05:15
gorskiwhat are the settings in gstreamer-properties, please?05:16
tonyyarusso(/proc/acpi/fan/ is empty.)05:16
kemiklukus001: what's the point of dualbooting 2 ubuntus? =X05:16
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zAo^gnomefreak discovered that too :) thnx05:16
lukus001PuMpErNiCkLe, can you explain how its done then please?05:16
pfarmertharglet: pastebin you /etc/apt/source.list05:16
gnomefreakyw Zanoi05:16
lukus001kemik, one for experiment /unstable05:16
gnomefreakzAo^,05:16
xiaogilhow to download a directory using wget ?05:17
gorskii tryed the second mic, but the problem stays05:17
lukus001kemik, i have to use the pc for work so messing up my main OS is a no no05:17
xiaogilor how to download all files for which the name begin with abc* ?05:17
xiaogilwith wget05:17
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gnomefreakare they going to change our bugzilla link to foward us to launchpad?05:17
pfarmertharglet: libsigc++-dev is in universe05:17
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_jasonlukus001, I'm gonna go grab breakfast.  If you get to edit /etc/group before I return:  just add your username to the end of the line that begins with 'admin'.  The syntax will be clear.05:17
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Ng_jason: !05:17
lukus001_jason, okay - thank you very much05:18
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kemiklukus001: i c :)05:18
Ngwhat's wrong with "adduser someusername somegroupname"?05:18
Ngediting /etc/passwd and /etc/group by hand is never a good plan05:18
PuMpErNiCkLelukus001: unmounted ext3 filesystems can be resized, I believe (I keep a spare partition so I don't have to go through that) so when you go to install the new linux os, resize a partition to make room and install on the free space you just made.05:18
_jasonNg, he has no sudo access05:18
siliconwizzardI'm trying to download and install GDM themes off the web. I save the tar.gz files and when I try and install them I get "INVALID FILE FORMAT" can anybody help? thx05:18
thargletpfarmer, universe????05:18
Ng_jason: reboot into recovery mode then05:18
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kemiklukus001: if you reboot, when the grub-thing appears, choose so you can boot into safemode, it should give you a rootprompt05:18
pixelfairyim starting to think some things (nvidia drivers, packages that change quickly) are better left out of package systems. gaim used to be like that, but 1.5 been pretty stable05:19
kemiklukus001: from there, edit your /etc/group as _jason said05:19
_jasonNg, if you can walk him through that, go for it.  I've always gotten a prompt for a root password when i tried it05:19
tonyyarussosiliconwizzard, How were you trying to install them?05:19
thargletpfarmer, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/700705:19
siliconwizzardtheme manager05:19
Ng_jason: you only get prompted for a root password if you've set a root password05:19
_jasonNg, I've set and disabled it05:19
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siliconwizzardpref>theme05:19
lukus001PuMpErNiCkLe, when i installed this current ver of ubuntu, i left an empty a partition with no mount name ? what name would i ahve to give it (for example my current one got call "/")05:20
tonyyarussosiliconwizzard, Do it through Admin>Login Screen.05:20
lukus001Kemik, i go try that in a few mins, ty05:20
PuMpErNiCkLelukus001: For a new linux install, it would also be '/'.05:20
Ng_jason: well you either founnd a bug or disabled it incorrectly then05:20
kemiklukus001: np05:20
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PuMpErNiCkLelukus001: That's how the new install will view it... if you want to mount that partition in another os, you can set it to be whatever you want.05:20
lukus001PuMpErNiCkLe, ah, so it wont conflict with my current one?05:21
_jasonNg, I just did sudo passwd -l root05:21
PuMpErNiCkLelukus001: nope :)05:21
gorskiwhat are the settings in gstreamer-properties, please?05:21
_jasonNg, but I'll check in a little while to be sure05:21
lukus001PuMpErNiCkLe, thank you also =)05:21
pfarmertharglet: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/700805:21
PuMpErNiCkLelukus001: np :)05:21
lukus001Thanks everyone, ill vee ofline for a while - hope it all goes well05:21
lukus001be*05:21
verizcan anyone plz help me: i enabled this: a2enmod fcgid but how i can disable it ?:S05:21
pfarmertharglet: then go "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install libsigc++-dev"05:22
thargletpfarmer, Ahh, I see 2 commented out repositories05:22
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takedown_veriz: that is kernel module?05:22
thargletpfarmer, I need those05:22
veriztakedown_: apache205:22
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takedown_veriz: just delete apache if u dont need it05:23
verizi just needed the command a2dismod :D nvm05:23
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tonyyarussoYou know what would be kind of slick?  If mousing over the little workspace icons and holding there for a second would show a thumbnail preview of that workspace.05:24
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tuskerninihi there all05:25
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tuskerninii was wandering if anyone can help me sort out my sound problem... i can not hear the sound... but it looks like it plays... (not muted) cant record eather05:26
LostFrogUbuntu takes a long time to install on a G3 300.05:26
ZnortAnybody knows what's the minimum disk space for ubuntu 5.10?05:26
tuskerninii would gues... 300 is not that fast... i installed it on a 450 and it also went slow05:26
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mjrZnort, I believe about 2 gigs for a default desktop install05:27
LostFrogI am thinking about trying to OC it to 400.05:27
tuskerniniif you only install breezy server... 500 MB05:28
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Znortmjr: I tried to install it today but it needed at least 24gig :S05:28
mjrZnort, if it said it needed, it lied05:28
Ng24?05:28
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tonyyarussoZnort, 24??  There's no way.05:28
Ngimpressive for something that comes on a single 700mb cd ;)05:28
LostFrog24GB.. lol05:28
MacSlowGGreetings everybody!05:28
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mjror there was some misunderstanding05:28
tonyyarussoZnort, The official requirements are on the web site somewhere, but it's a little tricky to find them.05:29
LostFrogMaybe 24Gigabit.05:29
BuZzYhow good is postnuke?05:29
thargletpfarmer, YAY! Found the thing now, thanx :D Will let u know if the headers are in one piece in a min...05:29
Znortmjr: I said it to resize the existing partition. I gave 10gig but it said it wasnt enough :S05:29
thegladiatorare there any mainframes running on ubuntu ?05:29
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thegladiatoror do mainframes prefer to build their own OS?05:29
MacSlowDoes someone know why totem (with the gstreamer-backend) slow down after about 2-3 seconds when playing back a mpg?05:30
Ngthegladiator: they generally are architectures that ubuntu doesn't support, e.g. z39005:30
kemiktotem-gstreamer is horrible05:30
thegladiatori see05:30
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thegladiatorMacSlow, install totem-xine ...thats prefered . are you on kde /gnome ?05:30
tuskerniniinstall totem-xine works better than gstreamer05:30
tonyyarussoNg: Someone told me the other day that there is a z-architecture ubuntu being devoloped by somebody.  Have you heard anything about that?05:31
Ngthe gstreamer backend should be significantly better in dapper :)05:31
MacSlowthegladiator, *sigh* still xine... ok... I thought gstreamer would be "useable" by now.05:31
Ngtonyyarusso: nope, I don't really work with mainframes at all05:31
kemikNg: lets hope so :)05:31
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kemikNg: but will gstreamer ever be able to decode .wmv / .dvd etc ?05:31
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thegladiatorMacSlow, try out closing other apps if you have any running , like for instance when I had karamba running in KDE totem played very slowly05:31
MacSlowthegladiator, I guess only 0.10 will bring solid usability05:31
kemikor will it infringe on patents?05:31
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Ngkemik: it can decode some of them now with the ffmpeg plugin, but yes, they are improving such things in 0.1005:32
MacSlowthegladiator, I'm using gnome. I don't use kramaba05:32
thegladiatorNg, the latest gstreamer is a good ?05:32
kemikoki05:32
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Ngthegladiator: I haven't used it yet myself, I'm going by reports from the developers of what they've been doing to it05:32
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JDigitalo hey guys05:32
thegladiatorNg, ah i see05:32
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Ngone of them was fixing bugs relating to playing wmv in the totem firefox plugin the other day :)05:32
JDigitalHow do I make my scanner work in Linux05:32
thargletpfarmer, were ur results pthread or thread?05:33
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NgJDigital: hopefully just plug it in and use Sane05:33
JDigitalXSane isn't noticing it05:33
Ngah05:33
Ngis it a supported model?05:33
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JDigitalI don't know.05:33
pestilencecould somebody help me with getting opengl to work in hoary?05:33
pestilencei get this error05:33
pestilence(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)05:33
NgJDigital: try a quick google for the make, model and "linux"05:33
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pestilencebut im not using an nvidia card....i have an intel 855GM05:33
Dr_Willis:) how about ' what model scanner is it?'05:34
JDigitalunsupported :(05:34
Dr_Willisand a http://www.sane-project.org/   check.05:34
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Dr_Williscould be sane support is being worked on.05:34
pestilenceand i use the i810 driver05:34
thargletpfarmer, (Know searches often don't distinguish one preceded by a p, and the other one not)05:34
JDigitalhttp://www.sane-project.org/unsupported/umax-astraslim-6000.html05:35
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tonyyarussoHmm...can't seem to get to the profile manager after installing Firefox 1.5.  Anyone know why?05:35
Dr_WillisJDigital,  :(05:35
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pestilencetonyyarusso: what about "firefox -ProfileManager" ?05:36
tonyyarussopestilence, Just opens FF normally.05:36
pestilencetonyyarusso: that's all i've got ;)05:36
matt__I am wondering how to run a certain command prompt on startup05:36
Ngmatt__: what kind of command? is it something that should be run by the system or something you want started when you log in?05:37
tonyyarussopestilence, All right.05:37
pfarmertharglet: thread.h not pthread.h - did the c++ dev package not help?05:37
matt__i need to run apachectl stop and then apache -k start05:37
tonyyarussomatt__, Gnome, another wm/de or terminal only?05:37
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thargletpfarmer, after installing, the compile failed, and then a search on my HD didn't show anything new05:38
cello_raspI'm trying to mount a samba share via bash for a user, yet because mount can only be run by root, the mount point (normally owned by the user) is read-only. "mount -t smbfs //ixion/public /home/thomas/Desktop/public -o username=public,password=public,fmask=755,dmask=755,rw" .. how do i give the user permission to this mount point? the server side is fine with all permissions btw.05:38
thargletpfarmer, (or any new header called thread.h)05:38
Ngmatt__: that sounds like it would be best put in the apache init script05:38
pfarmertharglet: what about /usr/include/sigc++-1.0/sigc++/thread.h05:38
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matt__how do I find that?05:39
Ngmatt__: which is /etc/init.d/apache - the "start" section is run on boot, you can just change it to use -k straight away05:39
LostFrogHas anyone had chroot segfault during installation?05:39
LostFrogI'm on a B&W G3 300.05:39
tonyyarussoI also seem to have messed up the link to the old firefox executable.05:39
afd_hi! I've got a problem. I can't connect to other computers in the local windows network from nautilus. When I got to Network > Windows Networks, that's empty, and there are entries like smb-workgroup-LAPTOP in the window that lists the network connections, but they won't work (I get a message which I can paste, if needed). Any idea on what to do? Btw, I'm using dapper05:39
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tonyyarussoIs there a way to access the FF Profile Manager from within the FF window?05:40
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Joselohello05:40
Ngafd_: maybe that stuff is just broken in dapper now - you're running an unstable version, you should expect that ;)05:40
pfarmertharglet: have you got libc6-dev installed05:40
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bshumatecello_rasp: use the uid and/or gid options with your -o switch.  see man smbmount for more info05:41
thargletpfarmer, hmm, it seems to be there. don't know05:41
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JoseloI report a bug in launch pad... and also attach a patch for the solution... anyone can tellme which is de procedure to do a "Formal" anoucement05:41
_jasontonyyarusso, I don't think so05:41
afd_Ng, not all the times dapper can be blamed, and if it's to be blamed then it's a bug that should be fixed. I want to know what would it take to fix it, or if it's really a bug, to enter it in the bugtracker05:41
thargletpfarmer, says so05:41
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matt__is it easy to edit the apache init script?05:42
pfarmertharglet: what command do you use to compile the code?05:42
tonyyarussoIt's also going to a new $ in gnome-terminal while firefox is open, rather than keeping the terminal hung with messages during the ff session, if that's any indication.05:43
afd_Why isn't the smb:/// protocol showing anything?05:43
gnomefreakpfarmer, to compile a code takes a few commands not just 105:44
Ngafd_: this is the wrong place to ask really, you'd be better off reporting a bug I guess05:44
thargletpfarmer, I'm using gcc05:44
afd_Ng, thanks05:44
pfarmergnomefreak: what about "gcc -o hello hello.c" ?05:44
[cro] smileyhi all05:44
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pfarmertharglet: pastebin the command/commands for me05:45
_jasontonyyarusso, you followed the wiki?05:45
gnomefreakpfarmer, ok reg code here try this gcc hello.c -o hello05:45
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imachinehello.05:45
thargletpfarmer, the headers are in the wrong folder(s) really05:45
[cro] smileyproblem: dvd playback is too slow in totem. question: what to do?05:45
gnomefreakim assuming eitehr version as long as they say the same thats for C atleast05:45
narleshey how come when i try to edit mp4 files in amarok.. it says taglib claims it is not writable... how can i change this?????05:45
pestilenceis there a possibility that hoary's Xorg got polluted with the proprietary nvidia drivers??05:45
thargletpfarmer, If the thing will like it in the end....05:45
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tylerphi05:46
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pestilencei seem to be having an error associated with the proprietary nvidia drivers, and i've never installed those.05:46
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lukus001hey guys it's me05:46
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tylerpsup guys05:46
tylerpu05:46
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tylerphi there05:46
[cro] smileywhy is dvd playback in totem so slow?05:46
thargletpfarmer, it's just gcc with an argument of a c file and an object file, n output name05:46
Katie^anyone good with crossover?05:46
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lukus001in etc/groups - under "adm" lukus001 is already set there? so how come synaptic doesnt work?05:46
arrinmurrpestilence: what kind of problem?05:47
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thargletpfarmer, The output is it can't find the header file05:47
pestilencearrinmurr: i get this error05:47
ZenWhat do I have to do to get WMV9 support?05:47
_jasontonyyarusso, what does "readlink -f `which firefox`" say?05:47
Zenin totem05:47
pestilencearrinmurr: Symbol __glXgetActiveScreen from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved!05:47
Katie^also, how do i install themes?05:47
pestilencearrinmurr: followed by (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)05:47
Katie^i downloaded nuvola05:47
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pfarmertharglet: ok - put a "-I/usr/include/sigc++-1.0/sigc++/" after the gcc and before the <infile> part05:47
Katie^but dont know how to install it05:47
_jasonubotu, tell Katie^ about themes05:47
drfozanyone know if there is a way to remove region codes from dvd's?05:47
thargletpfarmer, you know those packages u listed.... is it possible to preview the contents?05:47
flogistonI'm thinking of getting my self a wireless mouse. Will a microsoft IntelliMouse work at once?05:48
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dooglusflogiston: should do05:48
Katie^yu05:48
Katie^*ty05:48
pfarmerther05:48
_jasonflogiston, it will probably work but not with all the buttons right away05:48
pfarmertharglet: yeah - you need apt-file installed05:48
thargletpfarmer, OK05:48
pfarmertharglet: did the "-I" not work?05:49
flogistonOkey.05:49
thargletpfarmer, I want to see if there is a "correct" install05:49
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lukus001_jason, where in etc/groups did i need my username put?05:49
thargletpfarmer, Then I'll fiddle around with includes05:49
pfarmertharglet: ?05:49
flogistonDo i have to sett the buttonfunktion fore every program by hand?05:49
narleshey how come when i try to edit mp4 files in amarok.. it says taglib claims it is not writable... how can i change this?????05:49
_jasonlukus001, at the end of the line that begins with 'admin'05:49
alphyhow do get the plug in to watch videos on Firefox?05:49
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arrinmurrpestilence: hmm. have you looked in the ubuntu forums?05:50
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_jasonalphy, you should have the totem plugin, but I recommend the mpalyerplug-in05:50
lukus001_jason, i have one called "adm" but my user name is already on the list05:50
tonyyarusso_jason, Yes, I followed the wiki (and did so successfully in the past), readlink -f 'which firefox' says nothing.05:50
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_jasontonyyarusso, those aren't single quotes, they are backticks `05:51
pestilencearrinmurr: sort of.  i'm thinking maybe the nvidia-glx packages that are apparently installed on my machine might be the problem05:51
tonyyarusso_jason, Ah.05:51
pestilencearrinmurr: not sure how they got on here.05:51
alphy_jason, that will allow me to view videos?  it just keeps showing a puzzle piece and says click to download plugin05:51
tonyyarusso_jason, /opt/firefox/firefox05:51
_jasonalphy, what type of video is it05:51
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_jasontonyyarusso, okay and what happens when you do 'firefox -profilemanager'?05:52
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alphy_jason, I have no idea.05:52
arrinmurrpestilence: maybe you could just try to remove them then. are there "nvidia" entries in your xorg.conf?05:52
tonyyarusso_jason, Firefox opens normally.05:52
pestilencearrinmurr: no.  i think i must have installed the restricted modules for some reason, and they got pulled in by accident05:53
_jasonalphy, mplayer plays everything for me.  I would recommend that you try it.  Other than that, some people are using flash to embed videos in their site now too.  So you may want to install that.05:53
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_jasontonyyarusso, did you close all instances of firefox before doing that?05:53
smurfetteI have been trying to install ubunto on a pc that has an older HP pavillion motherboard in it and it keeps saying that it wont sync attempt to kill kernel05:53
smurfetteanyone know how to help05:53
alphy_jason, it might be flash, how do I get that?  also, could it be shockwave?  and do you know how I get that?05:53
_jasonubotu, tell alphy about flash05:54
tonyyarusso_jason, No.  Thought I had, but here's one open on another workspace.  Is that necessary for the profilemanager, I suppose?05:54
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tylerpHI THERE05:54
_jasonalphy, unfortunately there is now way to get shockwave on linux05:54
flogiston_jason, do you think it will be a problem to set the other buttons on the mouse?05:54
_jasontonyyarusso, yes05:54
tylerpFUKERS05:54
tonyyarusso_jason, Ah, there we are!05:54
tonyyarusso_jason, Thanks.05:54
tylerpIIIIii05:54
alphy_jason, okay05:54
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tharglethmm, gone to doing the -I way, it's getting a little confused05:54
_jasonflogiston, I don't know about that particular mouse, you should scour the forums.  I have an mx1000 with 12 buttons working perfectly but it took some research.05:54
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flogiston_Jason: thanks05:55
thargletIn file included from server.c:8:05:55
tharglet/usr/include/sigc++-1.0/sigc++/thread.h:21:26: error: sigc++config.h: No such file or directory05:55
pestilenceyup, removing the nvidia-glx* packages and nvidia-kernel-* fixed it05:55
thargletpfarmer ^^^05:55
thargletpfarmer (ty for the help btw :))05:56
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pfarmertharglet: I've come as far as I can with you - I don't know which thread.h file you need, as I said before there are a few thread.h files kicking about in different packages - and as I don't know what the code you're writting does I can't really help anymore05:57
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thargletpfarmer, I'm doing mutex_lock05:57
thargletpfarmer, under C05:57
pfarmertharglet: you didn't want the c++ stuff then :)05:57
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thargletpfarmer, Tis annoying n I don't know what all the packages are. And apt-file doesn't seem to want to list the files05:58
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thargletpfarmer, there is a C one kicking about, but the only place I know where it is is the Fedora Core 3 systems at uni05:59
pfarmertharglet: apt-file list libsigc++-dev   <--- will list the files in the libsigc++-dev package06:00
thargletpfarmer, :( no luck06:00
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pfarmertharglet: did you do a "sudo apt-file update"06:01
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[cro] smileywhy is playback so slow in totem when playing DVD's?06:02
skajawhen will thay start offering ubuntu dvd via shipit?06:02
thargletpfarmer, oops, it just asked for the CD06:02
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wogi_good morrrning ubuntuians!06:02
pfarmertharglet: also can you pastebin your code?06:03
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skajahello qoggie06:03
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thargletpfarmer, hmm, the updater is off one one06:03
[cro] smileyhow to fix totem DVD playback?06:03
pfarmertharglet: comment out the top line in your /etc/apt/sources.list06:04
nandahi, I am trying to install some hp drivers and am getting some problems compiling the software06:04
nanda"configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check06:04
nanda"06:04
nandaany ideas?06:04
skajadownload the newer verson of totum06:04
thargletpfarmer, pressing enter did the trick, didn't think it was still mounted06:04
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thargletpfarmer, Well, probably went for another repository06:04
pfarmertharglet: also can you pastebin your code?06:05
alphyanyone play torcs in here?  I need help running the game06:05
thargletpfarmer, yay, list now fires06:05
pfarmer:)06:05
_jasonnanda, have you installed build-essential06:05
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nanda_jason: I don't think so (this is a fresh install)06:06
nandaI'll do that now06:06
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mirakhi06:07
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alphy_jason, you play torcs?06:07
thargletpfarmer, going to now06:08
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_jasonalphy, nope, not even sure what it is06:08
nandaI've installed build-essential now, but its giving me another error: configure: error: "cannot find libjpeg support"06:08
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paladinewwhat's the best VPN application for ubuntu ?06:09
apokryphosnanda: what are you trying to compile?06:09
SunbugCan anyone help me out here? Trying to build a package fro a tar.gz file.. Unpacked the file, entered the folder, typing dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -us and getting a bunck of deps.. How can i make the system retrive the deps?06:09
alphy_jason, it's a racing game.  I can get it to work right06:09
_jasonnanda, you are installing drivers for your printer?06:09
apokryphosSunbug: sudo apt-get build-dep application06:09
gnomefreakanyone find any dapper art yet?06:10
nandaI downloaded hplip drivers for my printer and need to compile them06:10
alphyAnyone Play TORCS?06:10
nandaI am following instructions from: http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/install.php#download_install06:10
_jasonnanda, so ubuntu doesn't recognize your printer?06:10
lukus001Can someone help me sort out my root password problem, it seams to be non responsive06:10
nanda_jason: nope06:10
PuMpErNiCkLealphy: No, but I could test it...06:10
thargletpfarmer, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/701106:10
nandaunless I am doing something wrong (its a printer/scanner combo)06:10
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_jasonnanda, I think you should read other user's experiences first, then proceed with compiling those drivers06:11
_jasonubotu, tell nanda about printing06:11
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PuMpErNiCkLealphy: Are you using the repository version, or the latest from the site?06:11
trincamckeei there06:11
alphyPuMpErNiCkLe, repository06:11
trincamckee*hi06:11
pfarmertharglet: try changing "#include <thread.h>" to "#include <pthread.h>" and see what happens06:12
trincamckeehow do i create a symbolic link06:12
thargletpfarmer, That's the wrong header methinks - it's not in there06:12
_jasontrincamckee, ln -s06:12
nanda_jason: thanks for the links, I will check that out06:12
wogitrincamckee: be careful tho don't put the arguments in the wrong order ;)06:12
alphyPuMpErNiCkLe, it shuts down when I start a race06:12
thargletpfarmer, hmm, that header seems to have gone walkies06:13
PuMpErNiCkLealphy: k, I'll watch out for that06:13
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thargletpfarmer, Was in there earlier06:13
alphyPuMpErNiCkLe, if you run it from the terminal it gives me an error but, I don't know how to fix it06:13
thargletpfarmer, server.c:13: error: syntax error before mutex06:13
thargletserver.c:13: warning: data definition has no type or storage class06:13
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Sunbugapokryphos: Hm. What do i input as application? The tar.gz file?06:14
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PuMpErNiCkLealphy: In case it works for me, could you paste the error?06:14
apokryphosSunbug: I'm really wondering if you should be building a deb =)06:14
alphyPuMpErNiCkLe, yah, I'll get it ready06:14
apokryphosSunbug: that command will try to resolve the depends of a given application. Is that what you're trying to do?06:14
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alphywhat is the paste bin's address?  I can't remember06:16
gnomefreak!pastebin06:16
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:16
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pfarmertharglet: ok - change mutex_t to pthread_mutex_t - also take a copy of the code before making too many changes :)06:16
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lukus001can somone help me with my root password.   It's not working :/06:16
thargletpfarmer, there isn't much difference with it since earlier :)06:17
wogilulus001: did you actually set one? :)06:17
Sunbugapokryphos: My goal is to buil vlc som source to get mp3 encoding support. The docs say i should just run the dpkg-builcpackage command, but i get looong list of deps. Most dev packs. Never played very much with debian/ubuntu. More like the fedora/redhat guy. :P06:17
skajaroot is turned off06:17
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Sunbugbuild06:17
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lukus001wogi: durring installation i di, yes06:17
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skajabut you can turn it back on06:17
wogilukus001: You probably set a password for your user..06:17
Katie^omg06:17
apokryphosSunbug: sudo apt-get build-dep vlc   to resolve all build dependencies06:17
Katie^itunes keeps breaking06:17
Katie^FFS06:17
gnomefreaklukus001, did you end up adding urself to the sudoer list?06:17
wogilukus001: What root-y thing do you want to do? just "sudo <thatcommand>"06:17
nandaaccording to the wiki my printer should be supported (mine is a hp psc 1420, the 1410 is listed as supported), does this mean that it should work "out of the box?"06:17
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wogilukus001: and then try the password you entered..06:18
studentneed help configuring iptables06:18
_jasonnanda, make sure your printer is on and plugged in and reboot06:18
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lukus001wogi sudo, synaptic etc.. none of them will accept my pass06:18
nanda_jason: ok, does it always need to be connected at boot?06:18
alphyPuMpErNiCkLe, here is my problems http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/701206:18
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gnomefreaklukus001, try user password see if that works06:18
lukus001gnomefreak: my username is already on most of etc/groups... i.e. the admin part that i was told to add it to06:18
_jasonnanda, I don't think so, only for it to detect it.  You may just be able to go to admin -> printing and add it.  You can try that06:18
lukus001gnomefrewak, their the same password06:19
Katie^can anyone here tell me how to send music from itunes onto my mobile phone06:19
studentthese commands to not work:  modprobe iptable_nat, echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward, echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward06:19
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PuMpErNiCkLealphy: Seems to work for me... although I can't deal with the crazy camera angle changes o_O06:19
thargletpfarmer, WOO! Thanx :D Working now I believe :D Would have never guessed that06:19
nanda_jason: ok, I will try, thanks for the help06:19
skajai'm going to do a howto about turning on root in ubuntu06:19
pfarmertharglet: np06:19
_jasonskaja, why06:19
_jasonskaja, the wiki already explains how and there is no use to it06:20
ZooGSkaja, sounds good actually06:20
bur[n] erskaja: i think about 20+ already exist06:20
alphyPuMpErNiCkLe, huh, did you look at my paste?06:20
thargletpfarmer, The stupid thing is that it probably says pthread_mutex_t on the notes.....06:20
skajaoh :-p06:20
pfarmertharglet: LOL06:20
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PuMpErNiCkLealphy: Yeah, I'm reading it now...06:20
Set<+phlange> I said "dhcp" and the tech support guy started to cry and go "I hate my job I hate my job I hate my job"06:20
studentwhy does this command not update my iptables?  iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 808006:20
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ulaasgreat my dvd drive ate my starwars disc06:21
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_jasonstudent, you might need sudo, but I don't know anything about the syntax06:21
student_jason: i'm using sudo06:21
Ngstudent: you probably need to put that rule in PREROUTING, not OUTPUT06:21
skajasudo sucks :-(06:21
lucasvoskaja: why?06:21
Ngskaja: no it doesn't :)06:21
alphyPuMpErNiCkLe, okay well, if you have any idea's let me know.06:21
PuMpErNiCkLealphy: How are you launching the game, generally?06:22
studentNg:  I tried PREROUTING as well.  In either case, when I type iptables -L, the rule does not show up at all.06:22
_jasonskaja, I find it a lot easier than having to su to root06:22
Ngthere is no need for a howto, ubotu knows all about it06:22
Ng!root06:22
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.06:22
Ngstudent: iptables -t nat -L06:22
ZooGHas anyone got a good simple Howto on getting Java runtime to work in Firefox?06:22
Ngstudent: "iptables -L" is the equivalent of "iptables -t mangle -L"06:22
alphyPuMpErNiCkLe, well, i've tried running the sh file and I've tried running it from the terminal.06:22
skajaoh god java in fire fox ;-(06:23
ZooGhehe06:23
_jasonskaja, what about it?06:23
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Ngalso easy06:23
Ngsee the Sun Java section of the RestrictedFormats wiki page06:23
skajaits a pain in the butt06:23
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ZooGI got everything else working more or less...06:23
Ngthat will lead to firefox java working fine06:23
_jasonskaja, just use a javedeb06:23
Ngskaja: it's really not06:23
studentNg: so why is dansguardian not working then?06:23
_jasonubotu, tell skaja about javadeb06:23
skajai never got it to work06:23
Ngstudent: erk, I said mangle, I meant filter. As for dansguardian, I have no idea, I've never used it06:24
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mula`n'abend06:24
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pixelfairyhow do you bypass X11 on boot up? (is it a certain run level?)06:24
PuMpErNiCkLealphy: From the terminal, do you cd anywhere first, or just write 'torcs'?06:24
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skajaoh i do have a linux question how do i reinstall grub with out reinstalling ubuntu?06:25
alphyPuMpErNiCkLe, just typing torcs, I'm fairly new to Linux so if I'm doing something wrong let me know.  you won't hurt my feelings06:25
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RoNaLdO-BRubuntu06:26
_jasonubotu, tell skaja about grub06:26
LostFrogmmmm.. Grub06:26
skajai know about grub06:26
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RoNaLdO-BRubotu06:27
pixelfairyubotu: tell pixelfairy about runlevels06:27
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skajahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows thanks06:27
skajash you are a dork06:27
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pixelfairyubotu: tell pixelfairy about init06:27
LostFrogIs sh bashful?06:27
PuMpErNiCkLealphy: No, that's what I did.. occasionally it can cause problems, but this doesn't seem to be the csae here.06:27
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PuMpErNiCkLe*case06:28
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OneSeventeenhow do I send the contents of a text file to someone using the mail command?06:28
pixelfairyLostFrog: its probably a sym link if thats what your asking, but bash will act like sh if you call it like that06:28
alphyPuMpErNiCkLe, I don't know, I guess I just can't play the game06:28
RickKnighttolstoy: You here?06:28
LostFrogpixelfairy: I was joking about the '/sh' nick.06:28
Katie^how do you "rip and index" mp3's on itunes06:28
skajaTHK J06:28
LostFrogI mean '\sh'06:28
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studentNg: if I have that in my iptables, then how come I can access the Internet?06:29
thargletWhy is it always the piece of paper u want is the one to seemingly spontaneously combust?06:30
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tharglet(the one that happens to have the pthread_mutex notes...)06:31
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tech9inermoin all..06:31
gorskimy xchat does not list servers on the start, help, please!06:31
tech9ineranyone know of http/ftp/network installation procedure and sources for kubuntu perchance please?.. thanks..06:31
Sionidewhat the06:32
Sionide'buntu is showing updates to be installed, i let it install them and it still shows :s06:32
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skajainstall them again lol06:32
tech9inergorski: just check the box to show servers on startup mate in the servers dialogue ;[] 06:32
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Frafrahi all06:33
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gorskithe box isn't checked!06:33
Frafrawhere is my bluetooth-usb adapter in /dev?06:34
Sionideskaja, i have06:34
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mweFrafra: check dmesg06:34
Sionideskaja, done it twice now and it won't go away06:34
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Fraframwe: dmesg | grep Bluetooth isn't intresting06:35
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mweFrafra: if it's recognized it should be there somewhere.06:36
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gorskihelp.06:36
gorskiis that a bug?06:36
Fraframwe: yes, but i don't know where :D06:37
skajahow can i chane the boot order from linux windows to windows linux06:37
thargleturgh, now my locks are hanging06:38
wiiiiiqKde bolo tam bolo... kde sa piesok lial a voda sypala....06:38
LostFrogskaja: edit menu.lst?06:38
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Sionideskaja, edit /etc/grub/menu.lst ?06:38
skajaok thanks06:38
Sionideis it /etc/grub? it might be /boot/grub, i can't remember06:38
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LostFrogUsually is /boot/grub06:39
_jasonwiiiiiq, language?  what country are you from?06:39
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_jasonSionide, /boot I believe06:39
Sionideah well, there you go06:39
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mweFrafra: go over the whole thing with dmesg|less it's not that long06:41
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green-mouseHi. Somebody know how i can get files trasfer log in my samba? I tried to ask on #samba but don`t get answer.06:41
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nandahi, i've been trying to set up my printer (HP PSC 1420) I added it via Admin: Printers, but ubuntu can't seem to recognise that it is connected, any ideas?06:41
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phyburnWhat is the path to the X11 configuration file06:41
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ztonzyhey, anyone familiar with webcam driver ' SPCA5xx ' which is in Breezy by default and why it always freezes system when used ?06:42
sinclairphyburn: /etc/X11/06:42
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_jasonnanda, is it connected to a usb?06:42
phyburnsinclair opps im on a PPC box I allways forget to cap it06:43
phyburnalways make it x not X06:43
phyburnthanks06:43
sinclairphyburn: you always need to cap the X :)06:43
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aronhi06:43
aronanyone know anything about rosegarden ... i've got some problems06:44
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nanda_jason: yes06:44
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phyburnsincalair Mac OS X you don't06:44
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_jasonnanda, did you reboot with it on?06:44
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aaronCan anyone help with installing cedega time demo06:46
nanda_jason: yup06:46
ztonzyno one :) on the webcam driver ?06:46
sinclairanyone know where i can find the Multimedia Systems Selector?06:46
aronaaron were you in #macrumors the day before yesterday06:46
sinclair(can't start Totem)06:46
mweyou shouldn't need to reboot for usb devices06:46
aaronnope06:46
nandamaybe the printer is faulty (it is new)06:46
aronoh then someboddy else was with the same name06:46
aaronweird, asking the same question?06:46
aronaaron do you know anything about rosegarden06:47
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aaronnot a clue06:47
aronok06:47
_jasonnanda, how did you add it?06:47
aronDOES ANY1 KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ROSEGARDEN?06:47
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_jasonnanda, wasn't it in the "detected printer" setting06:47
nanda_jason: no06:48
sinclairnevermind found it06:48
_jasonaron, if someone knows, they will tell you.  No need for the caps.06:48
nandaI manually picked it out from a list06:48
gnomefreakthe desktop background changer is broken :(06:48
aronok06:48
aronsorry06:48
aronil find help some were else06:48
aronse ya06:48
gorskiDoes TVtime Television Viewer work?06:48
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aaronanyone got a few minutes to help me install cedega?06:48
_jasonnanda, did you restart with it on before checking that list?06:48
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jon_moin06:49
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nanda_jason: no, I checked the list first06:49
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_jasonnanda, remove the one you put in there.  Then reboot with it on and check the list.  I think it only gets added if you boot with it on.06:50
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nanda_jason: ok, I'll come back and let you know how it goes06:50
_jasonnanda, k06:50
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aaronwhen i try to install cedega_timedemo_installer, i get the message -is not a debian format archive06:53
e_machinistIf I want to install kubuntu-desktop... should I remove ubuntu-desktop? All I can find to do is just install kubuntu-desktop and live in peace???06:53
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Nge_machinist: you don't need to remove ubuntu-desktop06:54
_jasone_machinist, you should be able to.  Many people do.06:54
iantecwhich player can i use to listen to internet radio like winamp in windows with shoutcast06:54
Ngit's just a metapacakge anyway, it doens't actually install any files06:54
eksajmhello. i need to wipe the harddrive of a computer. It needs to be overwritten several times. anyone of you know of a good "floopydisk distro" that can help me do this?06:54
_jasoniantec, streamtuner06:54
tonyyarussoe_machinist, I actually had trouble figuring out HOW to remove another one if I wanted to.  (The whole thing, not the metapackage.)06:54
Ngiantec: xmms, rhythmbox, probably beep-media-player too06:55
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e_machinistNg: what I mean is, should I remove the gnome stuff since I'm downloading the kde stuff.06:55
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Nge_machinist: ah, that's up to you :)06:55
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lowman62hello techy room06:55
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mintoe_machinist - you dont have to if you dont want to :)06:55
MoratoriumI need help06:55
MoratoriumI just installed ubuntu06:55
e_machinistminto: is there a way to collectively uninstall the gnome stuff, or would I have to go through and find all the gnome related packages manually?06:55
lowman62congrats good choice06:55
Moratoriumand the xserver just refuses to start up06:56
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_jasonMoratorium, what happens06:56
lowman62Moratorium: did you do a default install or a server install?06:56
mintoe_machinist - i usually go though synaptic and pick out all the stuff by hand.  not sure of a way to get *all* gnome stuff at once06:56
MoratoriumI did a default install06:56
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e_machinistminto: I see, well... manually it is then. haha.06:56
MoratoriumIm just trying to get it working on my laptop06:56
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_jasonMoratorium, does it give you an error?06:57
mintoMoratorium - what video chipset does the laptop have?06:57
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Nge_machinist: start with low level things like libgtk2 - that should remove all of gnome (but be very careful, it will remove things like GDM too, so make sure you install KDM and check the list carefully)06:57
Moratoriumit basically says that it cant start my xserver and then goes to the prompt06:57
kemik!gimpshop06:57
ubotukemik: Are you on ritalin?06:57
eksajmanyone know of a good distro to wipe a hdd? floopybased?06:57
tonyyarussoIt would be really nice if there could be some sort of remove metapackage, that would be smart enough to uninstall all of the gnome or KDE stuff without disrupting the common parts.06:57
_jasonMoratorium, you can try setting the video driver to vesa.06:58
e_machinistNg: I will take your advice06:58
Moratoriumhow?06:58
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Ngtonyyarusso: it's not a particularly common task and the disk space involved is tiny compared to how big disks are these days, so I'm not sure it'd be worth the effort really ;)06:58
Moratoriumthe live cd worked fine.....damnit06:58
mintois there a known status on the apt-get.org porting project?06:58
e_machinistNg: KDM will be pulled in by the kubuntu-desktop metapackage won't it?06:58
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Nge_machinist: probably, but I'm not 100% sure06:58
NgI don't use KDE ;)06:58
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kemikare the forums down ?06:59
e_machinistNg: hehe, thanks for your help all the same.06:59
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tonyyarussoNg: Well, I suppose.  Not savvy to this stuff, but how hard would it be?06:59
Nge_machinist: np :)06:59
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sampane_machinist  yes, kdm will be.  when it installs kubuntu-desktop it will ask if you want to use kdm or continue using gdm06:59
_jasonMoratorium, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and change the video driver: change "Driver "nv"" part to "Driver "vesa""06:59
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e_machinistsampan: ah, I see.06:59
ashygi installed the 2.6.15 kernel off of packages.ubuntu.com06:59
Moratoriumthnx Jason, I'll try it now07:00
ashygand now i can't do anything :(07:00
Ngtonyyarusso: I guess the "easiest" way would be to create a package that all non-common gnome packages depended on and the same for kde, so you could just remove those and force the others off. so, you'd need to submit little patches to quite a lot of packages. It's not especially hard, but it'd be quite slow and boring07:00
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ashygi think dpkg reformatted my linux drive07:00
RickKnightI still need some help with ipw2200. Anyone here able?07:00
Ngashyg: is the old one still installed? you can probably boot into that with grub07:00
tonyyarussoNg: I see.07:00
ashygbecause when i booted up i got a lot of modprobe errors then ALERT! /dev/sdb1 does not exist07:00
ashygNg that's what i tried07:00
ashygto boot in the old on07:00
Ngashyg: you generally don't want to install unstable kernel packages though ;)07:00
ashygNg I needed to install it because it has suppport for my ethernet07:01
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lowman62get one thing fixed and break a bunch of others LOL07:01
ashygand now i am at a shell and my keyboard doesn't work in it07:01
tonyyarussokemik, http://linux.suramya.com/tutorials/Install_GIMPShop/ - the deb package is listed in section 4.0 at the bottom.07:01
Ngashyg: it's not that simple, ubuntu use some kernel patches and they are different between breezy and dapper, such that, as you've found, things get confused. You'd need to compile the 2.6.15 kernel yourself from kernel.org with the ubuntu patches from 2.6.12 applied/ported07:01
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lowman62can you say fubar?07:01
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ubuntueren07:02
ubuntueren07:02
kemiktonyyarusso:  thx, but it's fo debian and breaks the ubuntugimp :(07:02
ubuntumerhaba07:02
ashygng i guess i have to reformat then? is there anywhere to just download a iso of dapper?07:02
ubuntuhello07:02
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ubuntuhello my name is eren07:03
Ngashyg: there was a test release before christmas I think, that probably had ISOs07:03
tonyyarussokemik: Really?  Would doing it from sorce be better then?07:03
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ashygokay do you know where it can be found Ng?07:03
MoratoriumJason, I used that line and now it looks like Im in a blank text editor07:03
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HappyFoolyeah, please go spam elsewhere07:03
HappyFoolubuntu: hello. You're using ubuntu?07:03
lowman62geesh i thought that only happens in yahoo07:03
kemiktonyyarusso:  thinking of compiliing itt yes07:03
Sionidehey why doesn't ubuntu come with native mp3 support again?07:04
Ngashyg: well I just googled for "ubuntu dapper iso" and the first result is a daily iso build; http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/07:04
Ngwhich may or may not work today07:04
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Sylvain_44550Bonjour07:04
_jasonMoratorium, that would mean you have no xorg.conf.  Maybe I made a typo, it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:04
HappyFoolSionide: legal issues. the wiki has a RestrictedFormats page explaining07:04
moodogEvening all.07:04
Sylvain_44550Merde ! C'est le forum anglais !07:04
Sionide!mp307:04
ubotuhmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:04
Sionideah yeah course it does07:04
lowman62Sionide: http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/chap10.php#sound07:04
Moratoriumno, Im definitely in that one Jason07:04
tonyyarussokemik, http://www.plasticbugs.com/blogimg/gimp-2.2.8.tar.bz207:04
e_machinistOnly 149 packages left and I'll have kubuntu... going... strange metamorphosis... been using gnome for like... 5 years.07:05
platosflight cd 2 will work too07:05
e_machinisthaha.07:05
Sionidejust trying to explain to my friend07:05
ashygthanks guys :)07:05
Sionideand failing cos i don't really know the technicalities07:05
Moratoriumno, wait,07:05
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Moratoriumthe x in mine was lower case07:05
ashyghopefully dapper fixes this... the bugzilla entry said it does07:05
_jasonMoratorium, ah :)07:05
Moratoriumno07:05
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kemiktonyyarusso:  think i'll compile it's dependancy and use the .deb  :)07:06
Moratoriumstill nothing07:06
kemiktonyyarusso:  ty tho :)07:06
_jasonMoratorium, what does 'startx' say when you type it07:06
tonyyarussokemik, Okay, good luck.07:06
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ubuntuhello07:06
Moratorium bashes startx07:06
borgistaFor some reason my GTK Theme is stuck, any ideas?07:07
_jasonMoratorium, what do you mean?07:07
e_machinistI remember the days when a linux distro like mandrake would install KDE, GNOME, XFCE and like 10 different minor others by default.07:07
borgistaThe colors don't seem to change.07:07
tonyyarussoSo just how hard is it to learn how to make .deb packages out of source anyway?  (For giving to someone else, to make the process easier for them.)07:07
e_machinistThat was maximum disk usage, tell you what.07:07
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ashygmandrake kind of sucked07:07
Moratoriumit says bash:startx: comand not found07:07
_jasonMoratorium, 'apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop'07:07
Switchplacesmust go today 2 alienware area51-m 7700 notebooks. price 600 for 2.  message me if interested on msn at mcsltd1@hotmail.com, aim at ogd443 or yahoo at thishastogotoday.  do have an auction set up on yahoo auctions for these.07:07
ashygit was bloated and they made you pay to get the newest versions07:07
HappyFoole_machinist: yay for fvwm!07:07
borgistaAnybody know why my GTK colors are stuck?07:07
ashygi use fluxbox :)07:07
HappyFool!ops07:07
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, johndarkhorse or nalioth.07:07
HappyFoolah07:07
lowman62<--uses mandrake on 2 of 12 machines...they work flawlessly ;)07:07
_jasonMoratorium, what does it say for "Installed"07:07
HappyFoolsorry ops07:07
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e_machinistHappyFool: heh.07:08
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Moratoriumit says 0.307:08
_jasonHappyFool, when the ops come they are going to want someone to kick :P07:08
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zazzaAm trying to use some scribus-templates but its giving me error about fonts is there a way to update the fonts07:08
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drunkpikachuare the ubuntu forums down right now?07:08
HappyFool_jason: i'm busy putting donning my chainmail armour07:09
tonyyarusso_jason, There should be something like !ops --summon.07:09
_jasonMoratorium, try reinstalling it, 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop'07:09
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eksajmanyone know of a good distro to wipe a hdd several times? floopybased?07:09
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GURTdrunkpikachu: no07:09
tonyyarussoThen they come riding in looking for the trouble.07:09
SeveasHappyFool, ?07:09
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e_machinisteksajm: got something to.... destroy?07:09
borgistaAnybody know why my GTK theme is stuck?07:09
HappyFoolSeveas: spammer who was k-lined just after i called you -- sorry07:10
SeveasHappyFool, no sweat, correct action :)07:10
pal_Hi i have problems configuring sip under windows anyone who has installed pyQt in windows who can help?07:10
Moratoriumit says 0 installed 0 upgraded...etc07:10
e_machinisteksajm: you could just format the drive as FAT, then NTFS, then EXT3, then REISERFS/4... can't imagine much would be left of it after that.07:10
eksajme_machinist, hehe yeah an old computer with many years of profit calculations and tax thigns ;')07:10
e_machinistheh.07:10
eksajme_machinist, no i need to write over the files several times07:10
Moratoriumdidnt look like it did much07:10
e_machinisteksajm: that would definitely be a good thing to zero out then.07:10
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tonyyarussoHappyFool, What's k-lined mean?07:11
eksajmyeah. do you know any app that i can run either from cd or floppy to do this?07:11
e_machinisteksajm: someone should know, I don't, but you would think someone would have to.07:11
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HappyFooltonyyarusso: i'm not sure of the details, but basically kicked off the irc server07:11
eksajmyeha I thought so  to07:11
eksajmo07:11
tonyyarussoHappyFool, by whom/what?07:11
eksajmbut no one seems to know ;/07:11
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HappyFooltonyyarusso: the irc operators (those who run the servers)07:12
_jasonMoratorium, how about if you remove it and then bring it back... I wish I knew what the meta-package was for all the X stuff.  'sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop', then 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'07:12
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tonyyarussoHappyFool, Ouch.07:12
e_machinisteksajm: you tried searching the internet for something like "hard drive secure erase"?07:12
eksajmhow about just reinstall xorg?07:12
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eksajme_machinist, freshmeat07:12
eksajmbut not anymore07:12
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eksajmmany apps to do it07:12
eksajmbut nothing i found to run from a floppy or cd07:13
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_jasonMoratorium,  x-window-system-core, we can try that next if the above doesn't work :)07:13
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e_machinistHmm...07:13
zekieren07:13
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zekihay07:13
eksajme_machinist, wait. ill search for it on google07:13
HappyFooltonyyarusso: *shrug* it was an idiot spamming crap. freenode is quite well run, in my experience; i doubt many people are unfairly k-lined07:14
eksajmmaybe i'll get lucku07:14
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e_machinisteksajm: yah.07:14
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drunkpikachucan anynone shed some light on why nomatter what I try to recompile my kernel with (xconfig, menuconfig, gconfig) it cannot find the required libraries even though I can go into my package manager and see that they're installed?07:14
nandaI am still not able to connect my printer07:14
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_jasonnanda, still doesn't show up as detected huh?07:15
Moratoriumok, it reinstalled 0.307:15
platosdrunkpikachu apt-get install make-essential linux-kernel-headers07:15
platos?07:15
nanda_jason: nope07:15
Moratoriumbut i dont see the point07:15
e_machinistOh yah, file 8 of 150. I'm on a roll.07:15
tonyyarussoHappyFool, I don't doubt it.  Never seen someone being annoying enough to get kicked off the entire server before.07:15
nandaI wish I had tested it on my windows partition before I formatted it :(07:15
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_jasonMoratorium, well ubuntu-desktop should pull in a lot of the stuff you are missing07:15
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Moratoriumok07:15
_jasonMoratorium, does 'startx' work now?07:15
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Stabby_McGee07:15
Moratoriumno07:16
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zekimerhaba07:16
e_machinistAn interesting fact. I destroyed my Burner yesterday.... just plain ol' quit on me.07:16
Moratoriumstartx still gives me command not found07:16
_jasonMoratorium, still 'command no found'?07:16
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Moratoriumyip07:16
drunkpikachuplatos: couldn't find package make-essential07:16
_jasonMoratorium,  sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core07:16
platoseh sorry build-essential07:16
zekimerhaba07:16
drunkpikachuah07:16
zekihello07:16
platosand you need to install the kernel source07:17
TuxyHello07:17
webwolf_27hi zeki07:17
e_machinistMoratorium: did you do a network/server install or a CD based install?07:17
eksajme_machinist, http://dban.sourceforge.net/07:17
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eksajmi added the "bootable" in the search field and found it07:17
eksajmthx anyway07:17
platosyou can find that in synaptic07:17
e_machinisteksajm: did you find what you needed?07:17
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AstrayAnyone know why I have to reinstall the nvidia driver every time I reboot?07:17
eksajme_machinist, think so07:17
drunkpikachuplatos: my header are apparently up to date. What do you mean by installing the source?07:17
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ninohallo07:17
eksajmby the name of it ;)07:17
Moratoriumit say 0 upgraded and 0 installed again Jason07:17
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_jasonMoratorium, /usr/bin/startx, does that work?07:17
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platosdrunkpikachu: well you want to recompile your kernel, right?07:18
drunkpikachuindeed07:18
Moratoriumno such file or directory07:18
platosdrunkpikachu: you need the source for that i think07:18
drunkpikachuI have it07:18
drunkpikachuI'm in it's current directory07:18
andrej_hi; there are huge fonts whwn I type username and password in login scree -- is there any solution???07:18
ninohallo07:18
platoswell did apt-get install build-essential install something?07:18
_jasonMoratorium, apt-cache policy xinit | grep Installed07:18
drunkpikachuyes07:18
e_machinistDoes he have apt set up to search all the repositories so he can install this stuff?07:18
platosand now it still doesnt works?07:18
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drunkpikachuI'll tr one more time to be sure07:19
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zekihello07:19
drunkpikachuplatos: nope, still cannot find the required dev package (in this instance the QT package)07:19
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platosdrunkpikachu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto?highlight=%28kernel%29 <-- compile howto, this will help you out i think07:20
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NAiLI'm having problems getting a NVidia card working. It works ok with the nv driver, and I've followed the instructions to the letter. Once I switch to the nvidia driver, it won't start at all. Anyone that can help me? :)07:20
gnomefreakthats not easy to read07:20
Moratoriumok07:20
Moratoriumnow what?07:20
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_jasonMoratorium, what did it say07:20
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lowman62gnmefreak: how did installing eclipse go?07:20
wiiiiiqmno sco ludia.... ?07:20
gnomefreaklowman62, havent gotten that far yet :(07:21
LostFrogSCO OpenDesktop/OpenServer?07:21
Moratoriumjust repeat that last command...with " " coz I cant make a |07:21
gnomefreakanjuta installed and works :)07:21
Moratoriumit turns out as a # on the laptop07:21
paladinewwhat is the best way to setup 5.1 surround sound in 5.10 ?07:21
_jasonMoratorium, just do apt-cache policy xinit, and tell me what's on the line with "Installed"07:21
lowman62cool!07:22
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drunkpikachuI don't get it, everything I try to get through apt-get is never @#$%ing found07:22
Moratoriumok,give me a sec07:22
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kemikdrunkpikachu:  maybe you have to add some repos07:22
Moratorium2.5.1.ds1-307:22
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drunkpikachukemik: Which ones, where, and how?07:23
_jasonMoratorium, what version of ubuntu are you using?07:23
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kemikdrunkpikachu:  dunno what you're trying to install :)07:23
gnomefreakubotu tell drunkpikachu  about easysource07:23
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platos!easysource07:23
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:23
lowman62_away.07:23
Moratorium4.10 X86 edition07:23
_jasonMoratorium, you know 5.10 is out?07:24
e_machinist4.10... old.07:24
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MoratoriumI see....07:24
platoslol warty07:24
gnomefreaklol _jason07:24
Moratoriumso do you think I need one of em?07:24
_jasonMoratorium, If I were you I would just scrap this install and start from scratch with 5.1007:24
e_machinistWarty was fun though... haha.07:24
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simakI'm trying to find a web-page editor ... like Dreamweaver, but free.07:24
PuMpErNiCkLesimak: Emacs :)07:25
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e_machinistsimak: nview?07:25
_jasonsimak, aren't we all.  Try nvu07:25
gnomefreaksimak, screem07:25
e_machinistis that the name of it... hmmm.07:25
e_machinistyah, nvu07:25
Moratoriumand it would work without this obscure xserver prob?07:25
_jasonMoratorium, It should.  I've never had any problem with installing ubuntu on any pc07:25
NAiLanyone good with nvidia?07:26
gnomefreakim thinking screem is html website editor07:26
lowman62_awaysimak: install crossover then install Dreamweaver07:26
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Moratoriumok, Im gona find a copy.....07:26
gnomefreakcrossover isnt free either07:26
e_machinist_jason: I confer, used ubuntu on wide range of hardware, never any difficulties.07:26
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nea1Nail: what about nvidia?07:27
NAiLI'm having problems getting a NVidia card working. It works ok with the nv driver, and I've followed the instructions to the letter. Once I switch to the nvidia driver, it won't start at all. Anyone that can help me? :)07:27
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Storkhi, my speaker quality sucks. it's on like 50% volume and it's crackly as hell, could this be a problem with drivers?07:27
StorkNAiL, you mean xserver wont start?07:27
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NAiLStork: yup07:27
HClwho can give me an apt sources.list line for an ubuntu breezy mirror :|07:27
NAiLthe xserver log is here: http://pastebin.ca/3660407:27
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e_machinistIf you lose your connection when Synaptic is downloading packages, does it keep the list that still need to be downloaded? Or does it get shot to hell?07:27
eksajmStork, maybe you have destroyed them07:27
StorkNAiL, i had that same problem a few days ago.07:27
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_jasonubotu, tell HCl about sources07:27
gnomefreakubotu, tell HCl about easysource07:28
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StorkNAiL, i *think* that you need to manually get the new nvidia drivers from thier website07:28
HClno no, i ruined my ubuntu installation and i just need a quick link07:28
HCli know how to add them in general07:28
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StorkNAiL, alternatively, go back to the older kernel, and use apt-get install nvidia-glx. i did that one, it works fine07:28
HCli just have a barely working system, and i need apt to work07:28
_jasonHCl, read the whole thing07:28
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e_machinistcheck the repositorieshowto in the wiki?07:28
HCloh, right07:28
HCl :P07:28
HClthanks.07:28
gnomefreakC-O-L-T, the site is done i just have to add install add-ons to the install file :)07:28
Storkgod dammit these speakers are awful07:28
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HCl ;x07:29
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Storkowned07:29
_jasonHCl, nice07:29
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HappyFoolwhere i can find out more about how apt-get decides whether or not a package is 'trusted' ? I'm having problems upgrading bogofilter and some other packages07:30
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StorkWHNAT THE HELL IS THIS07:30
nea1Nail, it doesn't even look like its loading the nvidia driver ....07:30
StorkTHESE SPEAKERS SUCK07:30
Storkeven when really quiet07:30
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lsuactiafnerok why cant i remove xscreensaver without the desktop? thats so annoying, now i need to go hack it, the desktop shouldnt depend on the screensaver07:30
Storki'm going to smash something in a minute07:30
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lowman62_awaysmash your puter07:30
Tuxylol07:30
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lowman62_away:D07:31
e_machinistDidn't you have to... manually... and laboriously have to type like... sudo rm -rf /usr/bin password to do that HCl ?07:31
gnomefreakStork, do you have another sound card?07:31
e_machinisthaha.07:31
HappyFoollsuactiafner: you mean ubuntu-desktop?07:31
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_jasonlsuactiafner, are your eferring to ubuntu-desktop?  if so that's jsut a meta-package and it is safe to remove07:31
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_jasonlsuactiafner, referring even07:31
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gnomefreakeverything wants to get rid of ubuntu-desktop :(07:31
Storkgnomefreak, i only have the one built into my mobo07:31
ramagaeshi all07:31
Tuxyhi07:31
HCland now for some reason it's failing to install locales..07:31
ramagaescan anyone give a hand with a pcmcia wifi card?07:31
NAiLnea1: It *finds* the card... why wouldn't it load the driver?07:32
StorkNAiL, the new kernel doesn't seem to like the nvidia driver from the repository07:32
NAiLhmm07:32
StorkNAiL, your best bet is to re-install the old kernel07:32
StorkNAiL, if you're looking for a quick fix anyway07:32
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HappyFoolah, there's no Release.gpg file. bother07:33
StorkNAiL, chances are, it might still be in your grub loader07:33
NAiLStork: that leaves me with *either* accelerated X, *or* sound :-P07:33
gnomefreakhas anyone noticed on dapper that python has a few packages that wont install?07:33
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lsuactiafnerHappyFool: yes07:33
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StorkNAiL, ouch :p try downloading the latest ones on the nvidia site, or just call the customer support and make them do the work for you :)07:34
gnomefreaki hope this fixes it :)07:34
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lsuactiafnerwell chmod -x xscreensaver07:34
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lsuactiafnernehahhahahamuhahahaha07:34
lowman62plugs ears07:35
nea1Nail, Stork's suggestion is probably best....07:35
Storkhah, i win07:35
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gnomefreakits fixed :)07:35
drunkpikachuIn the srouce-o-matic file, the deb http:\\url is supposed to grab a package correct?07:35
lowman62unplugs ears07:35
drunkpikachusource*07:35
HappyFoollsuactiafner: as _jason said, it's just a meta-package. it depends on all kinds of stuff (like openoffice) iirc. I wouldn't worry about it being uninstalled until dist-upgrade time comes07:35
TuxyDoes someone have any idea why my wireless network connection is sooooo slow?07:36
Tuxyworked fine yesterday07:36
gnomefreakdrunkpikachu, you add the htt:deb line to your sources list and than apt-get update07:36
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drunkpikachugnomefreak: whoa, what? I add them to what sources list where?07:37
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dproffessahello07:37
gnomefreakdrunkpikachu, are you using easysource or the sources link?07:37
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lsuactiafnerthanks HappyFool07:38
drunkpikachuthe link you gave me, and I'm looking at that pop-up of deb packages07:38
drunkpikachuI ran the key commands (which I'm not sure if they wroked) and not sure where to go from there07:38
gnomefreakok the link i gave was easysource. did you fill out the form putting checks where needed and stuff?07:39
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drunkpikachuyes07:39
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gnomefreakok hit send me list?07:39
mike_Anybody here familiar with the Vmware Browser appliance for ubuntu?07:39
eksajmwhat happands if i try to run a 386 program on a 686 computer?07:39
drunkpikachugot the key number, ran the commands07:39
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drunkpikachuyes07:39
drunkpikachulooking at what it sent me right now07:39
gnomefreakok now you see a form with a bunch of http://deb lines right?07:39
drunkpikachuyes07:40
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gnomefreakok good07:40
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gnomefreakopen a terminal07:40
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drunkpikachudone07:40
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gnomefreakin term. type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list07:40
mike_Can I print using the Vmware browser appliance?07:40
gnomefreakdrunkpikachu, than enter your password07:40
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drunkpikachuAlright, I have the text file open07:41
bore_Hi07:41
bore_i have a big problem07:42
gnomefreakok now on the page that you were sent from easysource did you chceck the whole upper half of the form?07:42
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bore_i can not install or Update Libgl1-mesa07:42
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bore_anyone here had already this problem07:42
drunkpikachuyou mean about making a trusted key?07:42
dranyamanyone know if there is a ubuntu that you can boot from a thumbdrive07:42
dranyamor how hard it would be to make it bootable from a thumbdrive07:43
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gnomefreakdrunkpikachu, can you send me a link to the page that easysource gave you?07:43
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szamokinghi07:44
drunkpikachuhttp://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic    ?07:44
drunkpikachuthe actual page with the deb http:\\s are temp and not linkable07:44
gnomefreakok close that page please07:45
gnomefreakgo back to the source-o-matic page07:45
drunkpikachuthere07:45
gnomefreakok on this page choose the version you are using07:45
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szamokingi tried to get the mplayer for ubuntu breezy, but there is no mplayer there07:45
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szamokingcan somebody help me?07:46
drunkpikachudone and done. For the official packages do I worry about sources as well?07:46
_jasonubotu, tell szamoking about mplayer07:46
gnomefreaktick the include updates and security07:46
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gnomefreakdrunkpikachu, yes cause im gonna show you an easy way07:46
drunkpikachuyay07:46
gnomefreaklol07:46
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drunkpikachuOk, pretty much all the official section has been checked off07:46
gnomefreaklet me know when you have choosen all the sources you want and you click send07:46
Tuxyszamoking, maybe mplayer are available through apt07:46
Kyralmplayer-68607:47
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KasperTechHi. How do I get dual screen running?07:47
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Mabus06KasperTech, what kind of card07:47
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drunkpikachualright, clicked send07:47
KvoCocafte07:47
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KasperTechMabus06: GeForce 6600GT.07:47
KasperTechNo sorry 6600LE.07:48
gnomefreakok now in your text editor when i had you run gedit /etc/apt .... is that still up?07:48
drunkpikachuyep07:48
gnomefreak:)07:48
gnomefreakdelete everything in there07:48
drunkpikachu:D07:48
Mabus06KasperTech, I don't know, my card is an ATI.07:48
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drunkpikachualright07:48
gnomefreakdo not click save just delete it all and let me know07:48
drunkpikachudoen07:49
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drunkpikachudone*07:49
Mabus06Am I the only one having troubles with ubuntu.com?07:49
gnomefreaknow copy and paste the file easysource gave you into the editor07:49
KasperTechMabus06: Well I reckon it's not so different from each other.. could you point me in the direction?07:49
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_jasondrunkpikachu, of course for future reference you always back up a file before deleting everything, no matter who told you to delete it :)07:49
drunkpikachuI'll keep that in mind07:50
gnomefreaktrue _jason but the offical ones are same07:50
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Mabus06KasperTech, well for ATI I had to get the fglrx driver, and then I just had to run fglrxconfig07:50
gnomefreakdrunkpikachu, did you paste it?07:50
drunkpikachuyes07:50
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redguyMabus06: ubuntu.com works for me07:50
gnomefreakclick save07:50
adamhI'm at school and I want to stream mp3's and ogg's from my computer at home to my laptop here. Anybody know of an ideal program?07:50
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gnomefreakdrunkpikachu, now in term. type sudo apt-get update07:50
lsuactiafneradamh : vlc07:51
Mabus06KasperTech, I don't know if Nvidia has a xorg configuring tool as well.07:51
KasperTechMabus06: I see... then it discoverede it all?07:51
martiiis teher any ejabberd 1.0.0 package for breezy?07:51
szamokingme again07:51
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_jasongnomefreak, you're right, I just meant it was good practice07:51
ninohallo ich suche eine webseite wo man programme fr ubuntu downloaden kann07:51
szamokingi failed with the bot07:51
martiicannot find too much info about setting it up07:51
adamhlsuactiafner: I'll check it out :)07:51
gnomefreak_jason, i agree i should have told him :(07:51
drunkpikachudone07:51
martiinino: wir sprechen nicht deutch07:51
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redguy!de07:52
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de07:52
lsuactiafneradamh : icecast livecast darkice shoudl also be able to do it, but ive never tried it, but not vlc either07:52
gnomefreakdrunkpikachu, thats all there was to it now depending on the list you have you will either get updates now or you will have the extra packages in synaptic07:52
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tafsenWhat is the command in the terminl to check what group my user are in?07:52
gnomefreakgroup07:52
adamhlsuactiafner: Oh. Okay, thanks... I was kinda hoping somebody here would already be doing it, and would have an easy solution. Oh well.07:52
martiiso ejabberd 1.0.0 anyone?07:52
szamokingsomebody with more patience can help me in private?07:53
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_jasonszamoking, be more specific about what part you failed at07:53
Tuxyguid07:53
Tuxyid07:53
gnomefreakmartii, in terminal type apt--cache-search ejabberd07:54
szamokingwith the synaptic package manager i cannot find mplayer07:54
gnomefreak!mplayer07:54
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ubotu[mplayer]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106107:54
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szamokingand not ether with apt-get07:54
szamokingi tried that07:54
szamokingReading package lists... Done07:54
szamokingBuilding dependency tree... Done07:54
szamokingE: Couldn't find package mplayer-i58607:54
gnomefreakszamoking, follow the instructions on those links07:54
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tafsengnomefreak, group? no =\07:54
szamokingshould i edit the source list?07:54
_jasonszamoking, read the beginning of the page, you need multiverse07:54
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HappyFooltry mplayer-586 -- and please don't paste here07:54
_jasonubotu, tell szamoking about repos07:55
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gnomefreakeh07:55
gnomefreakwasnt group and command at one time?07:55
gnomefreak:(07:55
MoratoriumHey Jason, I got version 5.04 from a friend right now is that good enough?07:55
eksajmif i run a 386 program on a 686 computer what happands? an it destroy the processor?07:55
HappyFooltafsen: try 'id -Gn'07:55
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drunkpikachugnomefreak: I can't seem to see the grand scheme of updated those packages (in terms of my kernal compile still not finding the req dev package)07:55
dranyamanyone know much about making ubuntu boot from a thumbdrive07:55
dranyam?07:55
szamokingsorry07:55
Tuxyhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories07:55
Kyraleksajm: no07:55
gnomefreakdrunkpikachu, what are you looking for?07:55
HappyFooleksajm: should be fine07:55
TorbXHello07:56
eksajmokey thx mate07:56
_jasonMoratorium, sure, it's up to you.  You can always update after installing, but it would be easier for you to just install 5.10.07:56
HappyFoolyeesh. is ubuntuguide still around?07:56
TorbXI am having some troble07:56
TorbXtrouble07:56
gnomefreak!ubuntuguide07:56
ubotuI heard ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead07:56
drunkpikachustill wondering why sudo make xconfig/gconfig cannot find the dev packages I installed myself are not being found07:56
_jasonTorbX, if you ask a question we can try to help you07:56
TuxyI use both07:56
tafsenHappyFool, then my user name come first and then all the groups im in?07:56
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dproffessaHi I always have to setserial on my modem and create a new link in order to go online, how can i save these settings, i have the 3Com 5610 modem...help!07:57
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HappyFooltafsen: you belong to a group with the same name as your username07:57
gnomefreakdrunkpikachu, if the dev libs installed than it should find them if not it wasnt a sources problem to begin with07:57
drunkpikachuwell, at least we got one possible problem out of the wya07:57
drunkpikachuway*07:57
gnomefreaklol07:57
gnomefreakdrunkpikachu, what are you trying to do with X?07:58
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drunkpikachuI'm not entirely sure to tell you the truth07:58
HappyFooltafsen: that is, it doesn't really mean to output your username, but you happen to belong to a group with the same name07:58
drunkpikachuall I want to do is reconpile the kernel and everu guide I've tried ends in an error 5 minutes in07:59
tafsenHappyFool, thx ;)07:59
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gnomefreakdrunkpikachu, what errors give or take07:59
HappyFooldrunkpikachu: if you install libncurses5-dev, you should be able to do 'make menuconfig' -- no need for X etc then07:59
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drunkpikachuthat's the thing, I tried installing libncurses and the package is never found (that goes for 90% of all packages I try to put in)08:00
HappyFooldrunkpikachu: successful kernel compilation and installation can be tricky and very frustrating. only do it if you have to!08:00
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HappyFooldrunkpikachu: then something is wrong with your apt setup; i'd suggest fixing that first08:01
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Moratoriumdamn, ubuntu takes FOREVER to install.....08:01
dranyamwell08:02
_jasonMoratorium, lol didn't you jsut start a few minutes ago?08:02
dranyamit looks like I might as well give up on the thumbdrive issue08:02
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clevernameHi, I'm having issues with Evolution Calender.  I can't create appointments in the 'Personal' calender, and Evolution has taken to crashing when I try.08:02
Moratoriumyes, well I know from my previous couple of attempts......08:03
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gnomefreakMoratorium, after everything is done including the firstboot it should take on a 450mhtz about 1hr total08:03
TorbXIts about the refreshment-resolution-thing. The other day, I was doing some stuff in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. What I did, solved my refreshment problems, and everything was fine in a certain resolution. Then I moved it UP a noch, to 1200x1600. In 85 HZ it did not work, but it did in 75 hz. So I left it there. But today, when I start my computer, NOTHING works. I press ESC when starting up my computer, to safe mode or something like that, but now what do08:04
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Moratoriumno ways gnomefreak, Im running a 1.4 celeron M and it seems SOOO much longer08:04
priestI'm trying to get a ACX100-card working. But I have trubble with the firmwares, does someone have some documentatin on the firmwares? It's saying it need "tiacx100c0D" and "tiacxr0D" and i don't now which origninaly files these are. It doesn't stand on the acx100 wiki-page either.08:04
PuMpErNiCkLeTorbX: Most likely you altered the vertrefresh / horizsync settings in the xorg.conf file.08:04
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gnomefreakMoratorium, i install ubuntu alot and about an hr im done08:05
PuMpErNiCkLeTorbX: You can either edit the file manually to reset them, or run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'08:05
Moratoriumit must just be my warped sense of time08:05
gnomefreaktakes 20 mins to get through baseinstall and the copying of files and about 30 mins in the first boot08:05
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Moratoriumok, we'll see....08:06
MoratoriumI started at 9pm08:06
drunkpikachuAlright, if my apt configuration/options are effed, what would be the most appropriate course of action? File replacement with one I know works, or perhaps even a reinstall of kubuntu (Wouldn't be a loss since I only put it in yesterday)?08:06
TorbXPuMpErNiCkLe: cool, tnx08:06
!alindeman:*! Hi all .. Regional server looks to be having some trouble; we're working to resolve it now08:06
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tech9inerdoesnt ubuntu distro offer A N Y  http/ftp installation sources please?..08:06
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Moratoriumhahahaha08:06
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PuMpErNiCkLedrunkpikachu: either / or, whichever seems easiest08:06
gnomefreakubotu tell tech9iner about sources08:06
tech9inerif yes google damn sure isnt aware..08:06
Moratoriumno, 9pm as in 7 minutes ago.....08:06
PuMpErNiCkLeTorbX: np :)08:07
tech9inertx gnomefreak ;] 08:07
gnomefreaklol Moratorium what part are you on?08:07
gnomefreakyw tech9iner08:07
drunkpikachupumperniekle: have any info on where I might be able to get replacement files for apt?08:07
Moratoriuminstalling base system08:07
HappyFooldrunkpikachu: i'd just update /etc/apt/sources.list. Unless you've installed software from elsewhere than ubuntu, you shouldn't have any problems08:07
gnomefreakMoratorium, give yourself 20-30 mins for that08:07
HappyFool!tell drunkpikachu about repos08:07
gnomefreakHappyFool, we got him the repos08:07
wezzershould I use utf-8 here?08:07
PuMpErNiCkLedrunkpikachu: Maybe a kubuntu user here can give you theirs?08:08
HappyFoolkubuntu doesn't use different repos08:08
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gnomefreakHappyFool, he should have all repos enabled already and ran update08:08
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!lilo:*! Problem with a temporary main rotation server; however, we'd removed it from the main rotation as soon as we could manage, and about 800 users were affected08:09
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PuMpErNiCkLeHappyFool: In that case, I can give him mine, I guess...08:09
Tuxycan anyone recommend a good mp3 streamer?08:09
HappyFoolgnomefreak: perhaps he should, but if apt can't find libncurses5-dev, something must be wrong08:09
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gnomefreakHappyFool, what repo is it in?08:09
HappyFoolPuMpErNiCkLe: i'd stick with the word from the Almighty Ubotu, but go for it if you want08:09
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HappyFoolgnomefreak: main08:10
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PuMpErNiCkLedrunkpikachu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7018 <--- this *might* work08:10
gnomefreakyou know what :(08:10
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gnomefreakdrunkpikachu, did you click the boxes next to the sources for the list?08:10
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PuMpErNiCkLedrunkpikachu: Assuming you're using the Breezy release.08:11
drunkpikachugnome: yes08:11
drunkpikachuindeed, 5.10\08:11
gnomefreakdrunkpikachu, can you paste the gedit /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin please08:11
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vince_hi08:12
rednecktekhello all08:12
wezzerso it is ok to speak utf-8 here?08:12
gnomefreakwezzer, yes should be08:12
vince_i'm looking for a cisco expert08:12
gnomefreak#cisco?08:12
PuMpErNiCkLevince_: I might be able to help.... how expert do I have to be?08:12
Blippearash, det bsta sttet att f det senaste suns java i synaptic r att lgga till en rad i filen /etc/apt/sources.list som berttar fr synaptic var den ska hmta program!08:13
drunkpikachuHrmmm, #  or ## means that line is commented out, correct?08:13
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PuMpErNiCkLedrunkpikachu: yes08:13
gnomefreakyes08:13
vince_i heard that thye native vlan is not tagged and it's to be able to jump in an another vlan? do u have any information about this subject?08:13
rednecktekI'm looking for a way to backup specific files (jpg,bmp,png) on a filesystem to CD(s)08:13
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gnomefreaktake the # away from any of the repos themselves leave the # infront of the comments08:14
drunkpikachuThen I take it the last few lines (deb url) shouldn't be commented out, like in your file?08:14
drunkpikachuok08:14
vince_PuMpErNiCkLe, i heard that thye native vlan is not tagged and it's to be able to jump in an another vlan? do u have any information about this subject?08:14
szamokingthanks for the help08:14
szamokingbye08:14
szamokingi'll be back :)08:14
vince_gnomefreak, thx for the chan08:14
gnomefreakdrunkpikachu, it all depends on the list  and the way you need/want to set it up08:14
gnomefreakvince_, yw08:14
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rednecktekdo any of the cd writing programs support filtering?08:14
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andrilhello all08:15
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PuMpErNiCkLevince_: Go for #cisco... it's been awhile since I had to setup/admin a vlan.08:15
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vince_ok thx08:15
elio_hola08:15
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gnomefreaks/ahannel/channel08:16
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drunkpikachuhrm, I uncommented those lines and tried to get libncurses-dev again. Same basic error at the end with extra ones for each url I uncommented08:16
gnomefreakdrunkpikachu, did you apt-get update?08:16
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PuMpErNiCkLedrunkpikachu: You did do apt-get update, right?08:16
lowman62has no training what so ever but would mess with whatever he could get his hands on :D08:16
drunkpikachuwhy no, thanks for that08:16
gnomefreakdrunkpikachu, any time you change that list you need to run sudo apt-get update08:17
PuMpErNiCkLedrunkpikachu: You're welcome. :D08:17
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KWizzardpls, any video-conference software for Linux?08:17
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gnomefreakit tells ubuntu to use the new sources list instead of the old one :)08:17
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mjrKWizzard, gnomemeeting08:17
KWizzardtkx, mjr, and for KDE?08:17
apokryphosKwitschibo: Konference08:18
drunkpikachuok, now I'm getting a new error: package libncurses-dev has no installation canidate08:18
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KWizzardthx much :p08:18
lowman62_ZzzZzz.08:18
apokryphos* KWizzard08:18
Kwitschibo:)08:18
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gnomefreakauto complete get you again?lol08:18
apokryphosKWizzard: though latest Kopete has full MSN/Yahoo webcam support, too08:18
apokryphosgnomefreak: always 8)08:18
PuMpErNiCkLedrunkpikachu: It'd be libncurses5-dev08:19
KWizzardKonference is the name? cannot find it... Kopete does not support, IMHO08:19
HappyFooldrunkpikachu: libncurses5-dev08:19
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drunkpikachuI tried both08:19
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molinahola08:19
Kwitschibowithout those highlights i've no coversations :/08:19
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molinaalgien abla espaol?08:19
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drunkpikachufor libncurses5-dev it tells me install: too few arguments08:19
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gnomefreakdrunkpikachu, try in term. type apt-cache search libncurses08:20
Dragornusany one succesfully used ubuntu with a ax25 network? if so which version of ubuntu did u use? thanks08:20
melonipoikahi guys, please, i need help with the wireless lan, somehow it is desconfiguring, i have no idea what to try anymore08:20
molinaoks oks08:20
molinaBye!08:20
melonipoika!paste08:20
ubotuit has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text08:20
aboodhi all08:20
PuMpErNiCkLe!es08:20
HappyFooldrunkpikachu: the precise command is 'sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev'08:20
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ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:20
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ludiI can't setup Evolution.  The "forward" button during evolution setup assistant is greyed-out08:20
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dgtlhi everyone08:20
drunkpikachuback to the start. E: couldn't find package libncurses5-de08:21
drunkpikachuv08:21
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aboodguys i tried to download skype in Breezy version, tellming error with this package  skype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2) but it is not installable08:21
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abood???08:21
dgtli'm having problems with Totem, it doesn't start and says The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector. I've tried that but with no effect. any clues?08:21
HappyFooldrunkpikachu: you've probably done this a few times already, but could you put your /etc/apt/sources.list up on the pastebin?08:21
simakI can only get an RPM for my printer.  Can I get it to work?08:22
melonipoikaif anyone could take a look to my /etc7network/interfaces, i pasted it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/701908:22
ninohello08:22
melonipoikai'm getting crazy with this08:22
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PuMpErNiCkLewoah08:22
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PuMpErNiCkLeSudden flood 0_o08:22
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=== gnomefreak gonna work on bitchx later :(
PuMpErNiCkLesimak: Yes, using 'alien' - it's an app that handles rpm - to - deb conversions.08:23
gnomefreak!alien08:23
ubotuI guess alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/08:23
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lukus001Guys - my root password still issn't working, I've not changed etc/group to contain admin:x:106:lukus001? but that hasnt changed a thing08:24
simakPuMpErNiCkLe, cool, thanks.08:24
PuMpErNiCkLeabood: Try installing libqt3102-mt separately and see what error message it gives.08:24
PuMpErNiCkLesimak: np :)08:24
lukus001ive changed etc/groups*08:24
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PuMpErNiCkLe*3c10208:24
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drunkpikachuhappyfool: I'm an idiot, I looked through the sources.list again and noticed I didn't uncomment ALL the debs08:24
simakPuMpErNiCkLe, Is there something like alsa:video::____:printers08:24
aboodPuMpErNiCkLe, i tried to install it by apt but it telling me not available08:25
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PuMpErNiCkLesimak: Say what? O_o08:25
thegladiator!port08:25
ubotuthegladiator: Did you get hit by a windmill?08:25
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HappyFooldrunkpikachu: ah. the important one in this case is 'breezy main'08:25
simakPuMpErNiCkLe, a generic printer driver?08:25
PuMpErNiCkLeabood: That could be the problem, then... do you have all your repositories enabled?08:25
drunkpikachuomgomgomgogmogmgomgomgogmgomgomg, libncurses6-dev in installing! Oh happy day!08:25
drunkpikachucurses5*08:25
PuMpErNiCkLesimak: Kind of, I suppose... I think cups is supposed to handle most printers.08:26
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PuMpErNiCkLedrunkpikachu: w00t :)08:26
Dragornusany one succesfully used ubuntu with an ax25 network? if so which version of ubuntu did u use? thanks08:26
aboodPuMpErNiCkLe,  sure08:26
lukus001Does anyone know how to get the root password to work? i can't use sudo or anything!08:26
aboodand also i added repositories for skype and didt work08:26
simakPuMpErNiCkLe, is there a free flash player ... really free.08:26
gnomefreakwell that was easy :(08:26
PuMpErNiCkLesimak: Flash is free, but I don't think there's an open implementation of it.08:27
_jasonlukus001, were you able to add yourself to the admin group?08:27
simakPuMpErNiCkLe, is it okay to put it on my UBunTu machine?08:27
lukus001_jason, i added admin:x:106:lukus001 to it08:27
drunkpikachuI've never been so happy to see random text flying through my terminal08:27
PuMpErNiCkLesimak: Should be... I have it. :)08:28
_jasonPuMpErNiCkLe, there is I think, I can't remember the name.  I hear it isn't very good though08:28
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HappyFoolPuMpErNiCkLe: not yet. there was great excitement about Gnash earlier this week08:28
_jasonlukus001, so now 'groups' returns 'admin' in it?08:28
thegladiator_hi08:28
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ninohallo08:28
lukus001_jason, yes08:28
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PuMpErNiCkLeHappyFool, _jason: cool - I'll take a look.08:28
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thegladiator_checking a irc client written in pythong08:28
_jasonlukus001, and what happens when you try 'sudo echo hi'08:28
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e_machinistIs there anyway to back up or copy specific packages that I have downloaded through synaptic?08:29
ninohhhhhhhhhhhhh08:29
thegladiatore_machinist, try out /var/cache/apt08:29
e_machinistthegladiator: will do08:29
thegladiatorthats the place I guess where the debs are stored08:29
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gnomefreaki love this background :)08:29
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PuMpErNiCkLee_machinist: They're all available at archive.ubuntu.org if you need them.08:29
thegladiatorgnomefreak, please share08:29
thegladiatorcolors ?08:29
lukus001returns nothing (i tired sudo ealier so i guess "password" would apear, but not till another 15 mins, but it does nothing after password input)08:29
e_machinistthegladiator: you appear to be correct, thank you much.08:30
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thegladiator_pleasure08:30
lowman62gnomefreak: http://www.jkhamilton.net/wallpapers.tar.gz <---here are a few more really cool ones for ya08:30
gnomefreakits black with ubuntu symbol in middle on top says "daddy,where do babies come from? on bottom says "$sudo apt-get install life08:30
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gnomefreakty lowman6208:30
thegladiatorgnomefreak, how can I set it that way mate ?08:30
_jasonlukus001, you're going to have to pastebin the contents of /etc/sudoers (you'll need superuser access to read it)08:30
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lukus001_jason okay 2 secs08:31
lowman62gnomefreak yw...would love to sudo apt-get install sense into my wife LOL :P08:31
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gnomefreakthegladiator, you have to go to gnome-look.org its in there just right click it and set as background08:31
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gnomefreaklol lowman6208:31
ninohallo ich suche einen deutschen chat08:31
thegladiatorgnomefreak, just keeping a wallpaper as background will do ?08:31
PuMpErNiCkLe!de08:31
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de08:31
ninowie komme ich da hin08:32
thegladiator!german08:32
ubotuWish i knew, thegladiator08:32
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thegladiator!de08:32
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HappyFool /join #ubuntu-de08:32
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lukus001_jason, im gonna have to restart on my other install, brb08:32
_jasonlukus001, k08:32
PuMpErNiCkLebbiab, BZflag calls08:32
!lilo:*! orphaned group contact for Novell, Inc....that group registration has been inactivated08:33
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kqi accidentally deleted the default gnome (top) panel, with the start-like menu and the notification area; how do i restore it?08:34
nubbeI have some sound distorsion on my breezy amd64, which I don't think was there before. nothing in xp. tried both alsa and esd. the intro sound is also distorted. Any ideas?08:34
_jasonkq, do you have your lower panel still?  right click on it and create a new panel08:35
!lilo:*! Okay, deactivated if you prefer. Sheesh. Grammar wonks. *grin*08:35
kq yes, i do have the lower panel, and i can invoke the menus because i had linked it to a key before08:35
kqno room to click in the lower panel08:36
Tuxyhi. hope someone can help me. I have installed ubuntu on my laptop. i am using wireless connection.  my problem is that yesterday it worked fine, but today the connection is so slow. Any idea??08:36
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_jasonkq, switch to another workspace08:36
kqhide desktop button - taskbar buttons filling the entire space - alternate desktops - trashcan08:36
kqyeah, stupid me  :)08:36
aboodfind the solutions to skype in this url08:37
aboodhttp://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?t=38474 POST #908:37
kqbut now what do i do with that empty top panel?08:37
_jasonkq, add the stuff you want08:37
kqi want my default panel back; is there a way to add that automatically?08:37
_jasonkq, not that I know of, but there may be08:38
kqwhere could i ask?08:38
_jasonkq, try ##gnome08:38
kqthanks08:38
rixth!info myql-server508:38
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rixth!info mysql-server508:38
Tuxy!nick08:39
cello_raspsuddenly i have lost the use of the Super_L key. help?08:39
ubotuTuxy: Are you on ritalin?08:39
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Tuxyyes08:39
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knux_hola08:39
B[u] ZzYhow do i install mysql on my linux box?? apt-get install mysql??08:39
rixth!info mysql-server08:39
ubotumysql-server: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.0.24-10ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 3471 kB, Installed size: 8796 kB08:39
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rixthhola, knux_08:39
franciscoh08:40
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HappyFooltell B[u] ZzY about mysql08:40
HappyFoolbah08:40
HappyFool!tell B[u] ZzY about mysql08:40
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gnomefreak:) i love this strom one08:40
B[u] ZzY!mysql08:40
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP08:40
kqnubbe: try to plug your speakers to a different plug in your motherboard... one is for amplified output, the other isn't08:40
kqi don't know, but it usually works08:41
rixthB[u] ZzY, the latest version available is 4.0 though08:41
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nubbekq, I08:41
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nubbekq, I'll try but it sounds a bit strange since it's fine in XP, thanks for the idea08:42
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kqnubbe: well in my computer, sound doesn't work at all in xp while plugged the ubuntu way, and viceversa08:43
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pete_a**newbie alert**08:44
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pete_aCan anyone tell me how i change my security settings under ubuntu?08:45
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PuMpErNiCkLepete_a: What do you want to change?08:45
pete_aWhen pasting into the kupu editor i get the following message:08:45
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pete_aPasting from JavaScript is disabled on your Mozilla due to security settings.  For more information, read http://www.mozilla.org/editor/midasdemo/securityprefs.html08:46
lowman62lol08:46
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PuMpErNiCkLepete_a: And the webpage they give isn't useful?08:46
gnomefreakpete_a, go into your browsers preffereneces and enable java script08:46
DESiBELiwhere can i read open ssh log, who has logged in and when08:46
pete_aI tried to follow the instructions...08:46
_jasonpete_a, yes?08:46
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pete_aand created a user.js file under .mozille/firefox/defaultXXXXX/08:47
pete_abut to no avail08:47
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bshumateDESiBELi: /var/log/auth.log08:47
B[u] ZzYbut is lamp installation same as kubuntu's one?08:48
_jasonpete_a, you can probably just change those settings by typing 'about:config' in your url bar08:48
PuMpErNiCkLepete_a: change user_pref("capability.policy.allowclipboard.sites", "http://www.mozilla.org"); to include any other sites you want to work with.08:48
DESiBELibshumate: any way to see only ssh connections?08:48
pete_aEnable JavaScript is already checked08:48
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PuMpErNiCkLepete_a: Right now it's only allowed for mozilla.org08:48
bshumateDESiBELi: grep sshd /var/log/auth.log | less08:48
ludiwhy does this not work "sudo cd .gnome2"  "sudo: cd: command not found08:48
ludi"08:48
ludithis sudo crap is really starting to get irritating08:49
PuMpErNiCkLeludi: You don't need sudo to run cd, afaik.08:49
DESiBELibshumate: ty08:49
ludiPuMpErNiCkLe: yes I do, otherwise it says permission denied08:49
_jasonludi, because cd is a shell built-in I believe08:49
PuMpErNiCkLeludi: hm08:49
ludiwhy is it a freaking ordeal each time I just want to move around my own system?  this sudo thing is annoying08:49
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pete_aPumperNickle:  when you say:  change user_pref("capability.policy.allowclipboard.sites", "http://www.mozilla.org")08:49
_jasonludi, you can get a root shell like so: 'sudo -i'08:49
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fbtabhey guys, ubuntu rocks!! :)08:50
ludiI just want to copy some files around my system!08:50
pete_ais that what i enter in the window after about:config?08:50
rem_ludi activate root account and just su ...08:50
PuMpErNiCkLepete_a: I mean the line in user.js that you jsut created.08:50
saifi have update repos.. and download/install the kvirc08:50
_jasonludi, what folder is it that you can't get to?08:50
pete_aok08:50
ludi~/.gnome208:50
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saifbut let me know where its installed08:50
saifand how can i run it08:50
ludi_jason: ~/.gnome2 for another user on the system08:50
Tuxyludi, try with sudo cp /../   /../08:50
gnomefreak<<<<:x08:50
_jasonludi, just do cd ~/.gnome208:50
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pete_a*is trying that now*08:50
ludi_jason: I can't08:51
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Tuxymeant pete08:51
Tuxy:)08:51
saifi have update repos.. and download/install the kvirc .. but let me know where its installed and how can i run it08:51
ludi_jason: cd .gnome208:51
ludibash: cd: .gnome2: Permission denied08:51
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ludiI think the ubuntu team needs to reconsider the sudo idea.08:51
_jasonludi, ls -l ~/.gnome208:51
pete_aPumperNickle:  so here is the rub08:51
gnomefreaksaif, if its not in your menu try in terminal typing kvirc08:51
PuMpErNiCkLepete_a: ^^08:51
saifOk08:52
_jasonludi, err that's not what I meant: ls -l ~ | grep gnome208:52
pete_aI'm pasting into a kupu editor window within a Plone application that runs on Zope08:52
_jasonludi, err that's not what I meant: ls -la ~ | grep gnome2, sorry :P08:52
pete_ahow do i open up pasting for any/all sites?08:52
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Prozacis it possible to change how offen amaroK should update the collection?08:52
PuMpErNiCkLepete_a: If it supports wildcards - which it should - replace the mozilla URL with *08:53
gnomefreakpete_a, did you look for the settings in kupu?08:53
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_jasonludi, that folder should be owned by your user08:53
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ludi_jason: I was logged on as another user.08:53
pete_a*trying the wildcard thought*08:53
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ludi_jason:  and was using sudo command to get access to the other users folder.08:54
ludisudo needs to go08:54
ludiubuntu re-enable root by default08:54
PuMpErNiCkLeludi: Try sudo su to get a root terminal.08:54
PuMpErNiCkLeerr, 'sudo su'08:54
pete_agnomefreak:  no, i sort of eliminated kupu,... since i was successful pasting under another browser (ie. IE)08:54
_jasonludi, what's wrong with 'sudo -i'?08:54
thoreauputicludi: to change to another user you use su $username08:54
ludiwhat's the root password?  I never entered it.08:54
HappyFoolPuMpErNiCkLe: fwiw, we usually recommend sudo -i08:54
thoreauputic!root08:55
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.08:55
redguyludi: it's disabled08:55
ludiarghh08:55
gnomefreakludi, use your user password08:55
PuMpErNiCkLeHappyFool: Yes, I suppose that would be better.08:55
PuMpErNiCkLeHappyFool: Didn't know about that, though. :o08:55
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saifgnomefreak, well its running now, can you tell me how can i get it on my desktop and as well in menu's08:56
HappyFoolPuMpErNiCkLe: not a big deal ;-)08:56
rixth!info gnome-desktop08:56
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rixth!ifno gnome-about08:56
ubotuI don't know, rixth08:56
rixth!info gnome-about08:56
ubotugnome-about: (The GNOME about box), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.12.1-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 220 kB, Installed size: 400 kB08:56
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gnomefreaksaif, restarting kde should get it in mune08:56
rixthOkay, 2.12, THANK YOU08:56
PuMpErNiCkLebrb08:56
saifdon't have KDE08:56
HappyFoolrixth: you can also try packages.ubuntu.com08:57
saifgnome ;)08:57
ludiI don't get sudo -i08:57
rixthThanks08:57
gnomefreaksaif, kvic is a kde chat client for irc isnt it?08:57
j2daoshok... i created a *fake* windows drive to use with wine and it installed IE and some other stuff but i cant find it... anyone know where its located at?08:57
gnomefreak<spelling>08:57
ludisudo -i does not work08:57
saifit is, but i don't have KDE08:57
rixthj2daosh, ~/.wine08:57
thoreauputicludi: sure it does08:57
gnomefreaksaif, if you installed it you do its one of the dependencies but try restarting gnome than08:58
thoreauputicludi: sudo -i <your user pass>08:58
bshumateludi: it works well, provided your user account is listed in the sudoers file ;-)08:58
thoreauputicir it askd for that08:58
thoreauputic*asks08:58
saifwell, i wanted a shortcut on desktop08:58
gnomefreakcant have kde apps without kdebase:)08:58
gnomefreaksaif, right click desktop08:59
j2daoshhey... how do i make a shortcut to another folder on another system?08:59
gnomefreaksaid add launcher08:59
ludithoreauputic: so then I become root like that?  what kind of security is that?08:59
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j2daoshlike make a link to my c:/ drive upstairs?08:59
HappyFool*rolls eyes*08:59
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thoreauputicludi: *sigh* read the ubotu URL I gave above08:59
thoreauputic!root08:59
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.08:59
thoreauputichtere08:59
gnomefreaksaif,  name it what you want in the command feild type what you typed in term. to open it08:59
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thoreauputic*there08:59
pansonicI have a USB external drive - how do you change rea/write permissions on it08:59
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UnfunAnyone know where i can get rrdtool 1.0.x for breezy?09:00
gnomefreakpansonic, chmod09:00
thoreauputicludi: sudo has been used for many years in unix as well as linux - it isn't new at all09:00
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pansonicplease explaain09:00
saifi'm have created09:00
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crimsun!info rrdtool09:00
saifbut its not with kvirc original icon09:00
uboturrdtool: (Time-series data storage and display system (programs)), section universe/utils, is extra. Version: 1.2.11-0.3 (breezy), Packaged size: 471 kB, Installed size: 1040 kB09:00
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gnomefreakpansonic, do you want it for all users to read and right?09:01
crimsunUnfun: does 1.2.11 not work?09:01
UnfunIt messes up some munin for me09:01
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pansonicyes that would make it easier09:01
meepytrappist: sorry for highlighting, but i remember you told me how to get bittorrent working probably, something with iptables - and output accept?09:01
specialbuddyhi09:01
specialbuddycan anyone help me get a smaller screen resolution09:01
UnfunLots of formating changes in rrdtool from 1.0 to 1.209:01
Tuxyu mean read and write :)09:01
trappistmeepy: yes09:01
gnomefreakpansonic, type chmod -rx filename09:01
crimsun!info rrdtool hoary09:01
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meepytrappist: I forgot what it was, can you help?09:01
pansonicwhere filename is the actual filename09:01
pete_aPumperNickle: any other suggestions?  i tried both "*" and * in place of "www.mozilla.org"09:01
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gnomefreakpansonic, yes09:02
pansonicthanks m809:02
PuMpErNiCkLepete_a: Did you restart the browser after changing it?09:02
Unfun!info rrdtool hoary09:02
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TorbXHello again everybody. I managed to change the resolution and stuff by walking through the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg thing. But now my nVidia card seems to misperform. The GL-screensavers seem more "choppy" than before. They used to FLY with my 6600-card, but now its more... whats the word... klonky?09:02
ludianyone know how to use gnomemeeting to communicate to a windows user?09:02
specialbuddycan anyone tell me what file I need to mess with in order to get better resolution09:02
PuMpErNiCkLeTorbX: Did you set it to use 'nv' or 'nvidia' as the kernel module?09:03
pete_aPumperNickle:  Yes,... assuming the extension i added to my firefox browser does just that09:03
gnomefreakpansonic, try chmod --help  it will give you info on chmod command also you can try man chmod09:03
mjrludi, gnomemeeting has a FAQ on that; the other end needs to use MS NetMeeting and install a free codec for it09:03
trappistI'll leave it to you to find the port range this time, but iptables -I OUTPUT -j ACCEPT; iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport $PORT1:$PORT2 -j ACCEPT09:03
specialbuddycan anyone help me with my monitor problem09:03
TorbXPuMpErNiCkLe:  nvidia09:03
mjrludi, http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3&pos=0&faqpage=x56.html#AEN6209:03
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gnomefreakspecialbuddy, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:03
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specialbuddythanks gnomefreak09:04
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TorbXPuMpErNiCkLe: should I use "nv"?09:04
PuMpErNiCkLeTorbX: Do you have 'nvidia-settings' installed?09:04
PuMpErNiCkLeTorbX: No.09:04
TorbXyes, I do...09:04
TorbXbut not much to alter there.09:04
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aggressor!games09:04
pete_aPumperNickle:  Should I have two subdirs under ~/.mozilla?09:04
ubotuit has been said that games is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/09:04
torturetheartistis anyone willing to help me with permissions on my external fat 32 drive?09:04
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paulproteus|lapttorturetheartist: Yes.09:05
PuMpErNiCkLepete_a: For firefox?  Probably not... I only have one.09:05
eatnumber1hey, i setup my system to mount a smb share on boot, but it dosent mount it unless i run mount -a... heres the entry in my fstab: //russell/Music /home/eatnumber1/music smbfs defaults,password= 0 009:05
ludiokay let's say that the user has netmeeting with the special codec installed.  now what?  how do I make a connection to that user?09:05
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TorbXOh, I just saw something. After bucking with the dpkg-thing, my HZ-thing is 60 hz only. Maybe if i do something about that, this chopping will disappear?09:05
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simakwhere are firefox plugins?  (/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins??)09:05
pete_ahow do i know which is correct, or doesn't it matter?09:05
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PuMpErNiCkLeTorbX: Quite possibly, yes. :D09:05
drunkpikachuThanks for all the help guys!09:05
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paulproteus|lapttorturetheartist: Do me a favor and run "mount" in a terminal, and put the output of that in a pastebin.09:06
CosmoDad_is there no local mail traffic in Ubuntu as in Debian? Like security hints and stuff like that?09:06
paulproteus|laptSee the topic if you don't know about the pastebin.09:06
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paulproteus|laptCosmoDad_: By default there's no mail server installed, I think.09:06
gnomefreakpaulproteus, thats right09:06
martiignomefreak: it's old09:06
paulproteus|laptSo there isn't local mail at all, as I understand.09:06
TorbXPuMpErNiCkLe: >Thnx! But hmmm.. By any chance, do you know what the right measures are for a IBM P200 monitor? Crt..09:06
PuMpErNiCkLeCosmoDad_: Uh, yeah... run 'mail', you should hav esome messages.09:06
gnomefreakmartii, whats old?09:06
martiignomefreak: 0.7.509:06
martiignomefreak: ejabberd09:06
CosmoDad_PuMpErNiCkLe: mail doesn't seem to be installed by default09:06
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martiignomefreak: I ask about stable 1.0.009:06
PuMpErNiCkLeTorbX: There should be a sticker on the back or a button on the front to display them.09:06
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gnomefreakmartii, what ubuntu are you on?09:07
TorbXok... will look for that, tnx :D09:07
martiignomefreak: stable as well (breezy)09:07
PuMpErNiCkLeTorbX: np :)09:07
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martiignomefreak: dappers has 0.9.809:07
martiignomefreak: but I'm sure it wont install09:07
HappyFoolCosmoDad_: install postfix -- i'm pretty sure it's on the CD. You might need/want mailx too09:07
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eatnumber1hey, i setup my system to mount a smb share on boot, but it dosent mount it unless i run mount -a... heres the entry in my fstab: //russell/Music /home/eatnumber1/music smbfs defaults,password= 0 009:07
CosmoDad_PuMpErNiCkLe: I installed mutt but I didn't have any mail account09:07
ludido you just type in the IP address in the "h323:" field to connect to someone with gnomemeeting?09:07
gnomefreakmartii, you might have to get it from their site in either .deb form if you can or tar.gz09:08
martiignomefreak: no .deb09:08
mindlaceeatnumber1: are you running mount -a as root?09:08
eatnumber1yea09:08
gnomefreakmartii, than it sounds like you will be compiling the app09:08
martiignomefreak: and I've compiled it even with erlang09:08
CosmoDad_HappyFool: is it regular on Ubuntu not being able to read root's mail without installing additional software? sounds weird..09:08
pansonicgnomefreak, tried but i'm trying to allow access to an external hdd and it says that the drive is read only09:08
martiignomefreak: but it does not work as expected09:08
gnomefreakubotu tell pansonic about mount09:09
mindlaceeatnumber1: do you supply a password?09:09
martiignomefreak: is there any svn cvs with ro access for ubuntu?09:09
gnomefreakmartii, giv eme the link please09:09
thoreauputicCosmoDad: there was a major flame war about it on the users mailing list ;)09:09
eatnumber1there is no password09:09
rixthI have Apache2.2 in /chroot/bin/httpd. If I want to lock it into chroot jail (from /chroot) how do I do it?09:09
HappyFoolCosmoDad_: i think it's standard (i installed a few months ago, can't remember details). i think the idea is most desktop users will use evolution, and server users will know what they want09:09
martiignomefreak: maybe it would be possible to compile source deb on my machine09:09
eatnumber1thats why i have password=09:09
martiignomefreak: w809:09
specialbuddygnomefreak09:09
HappyFoolthoreauputic: ah, really? hmm09:09
gnomefreakspecialbuddy, ?09:09
specialbuddywhat do I do after I run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:09
ashygwhat does rescue mode on the dapper disc do09:09
thoreauputicHappuf: hundreds of mails in the thread ;)09:10
specialbuddydon't I have to update or something09:10
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mindlacewell, when is smb initialized, eatnumber1? the smb server may not be running when it tries to mount09:10
thoreauputicoops09:10
specialbuddybecause it's not changing the resolution size still09:10
CosmoDad_thoreauputic, HappyFool: I see09:10
thoreauputicHappyFool: tab eror sorry09:10
simakdoes lsof work on bash in ubuntu09:10
specialbuddyIt found everything09:10
gnomefreakspecialbuddy, after you finish it just restart X09:10
eatnumber1mindlace: but if i run sudo mount -a it works09:10
thoreauputicsimak: of course09:10
eatnumber1mindlace: it just dosent work on boot09:10
specialbuddydo I type that09:10
gnomefreakspecialbuddy, did you make any changes?09:10
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specialbuddyyes I made some changes09:10
martiignomefreak: http://ejabberd.jabber.ru/download09:11
j2daoshhey... how do i mount a ntfs drive on another computer that is shared out to my linux box downstaris?09:11
simakthoreauputic, i get lsof:warning can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev09:11
martiignomefreak: there is link to breezy universe packages09:11
specialbuddybecause I have a 19 inch monitor and everything is 600 by 40009:11
gnomefreakubotu tell specialbuddy about restartX09:11
martiignomefreak: I have universe on my sources list09:11
tonyyarussoHow can I create a .m3u playlist file in folder1 for all of the music files (.ogg) in folder1/subfolder2?09:11
gnomefreakmartii, does it have a # infront of it?09:11
martiignomefreak: and apt still installs 0.7.509:11
pete_aPumperNickle:  renamed one of the default dirs and get incomplete un-rendered results in my browser. does it matter which default dir i rename?09:11
j2daoshi cant make a symbolic link to a different network huh?09:12
specialbuddyI didn't get anything gnomefreak09:12
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martiignomefreak: I'm not newbe ;) of course it does not09:12
gnomefreakspecialbuddy, either reboot pc or use ctrl+alt+backspace than when at terminal type startx09:12
PuMpErNiCkLepete_a: It may, I'm not sure - it's not a problem I've seen before.09:12
mindlaceeatnumber1: what I'm saying is that when you write mount -a the smb client software has already been loaded (?)09:12
ashygthe dapper install says it can't find my ethernet device09:12
ashygeven though i know it's there - what can i do?09:12
eatnumber1j2daosh: try sudo mount //machinename/sharename /mountpoint -t smbfs -o defaults,password=09:12
ashygit said something about finding firewire09:12
ashygbut my system does not have firewire09:12
gnomefreakmartii, ok let me look at this09:12
pete_apumpernickle:  also, i noticed a prefs.js file could that cause conflicting results09:13
eatnumber1mindlace: ah, so how do i set the smb share to mount after the smb client has initiated?09:13
ashygalso the dapper install won't let me pick my drives that are on a PCI SATA controller09:13
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specialbuddydoes anyone know how to restartx09:13
PuMpErNiCkLepete_a: Does what's in the prefs.js look anything like the user.js file you made?09:13
_jasonspecialbuddy, ctrl+alt+backspace09:13
eatnumber1specialbuddy: yea09:13
TorbXPuMpErNiCkLe: This is what is says on the back of my monitor:09:13
thoreauputicspecialbuddy: ctrl-alt-backspace09:13
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pete_apumpernickle:  yes.  it has that same line (www.mozilla.org)09:14
gnomefreakmartii, you went here http://www.process-one.net/en/projects/ejabberd/download.html#source and got the tarball?09:14
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TorbXPuMpErNiCkLe: v: 100-240, A: 1.7-1.2, HZ: 50-60     Does this tell you anything?09:14
martiignomefreak: got it, compiled09:14
j2daoshthat didn't work eatnumber109:14
ashygdoes anyone know why the breezy install detects my PCI IDE controller drives fine but the dapper one does not?09:14
martiignomefreak: did make install09:14
PuMpErNiCkLepete_a: In that case, try changing prefs.js and temporarily moving user.js - it may be using the wrong config file.09:14
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martiignomefreak: etc09:14
gnomefreakmartii, than if you compiled it right should be installed09:15
eatnumber1j2daosh: what was the error09:15
martiignomefreak: it's erlang09:15
martiignomefreak: I have problems with startup srcipt09:15
j2daoshno error... just gave me mount usage09:15
PuMpErNiCkLeTorbX: Yes.  In xorg.conf, there're two lines - one says HorizSync, and the other says VertRefresh.09:15
_jasonpete_a, read the comments at the top of prefs.js09:15
martiignomefreak: and with control tools09:15
j2daoshill just add it to my fstab... what will i use instead of /dev/harddrive?09:15
martiignomefreak: moaybe you can spot ejabberd source .deb ?09:15
mindlaceso eatnumber1: the easiest thing is add umount -a to a script in the last runlevel09:16
martiignomefreak: I would rebuild it on my machine09:16
PuMpErNiCkLeTorbX: Change the value associated to HorizSyn to '100-240' and the one associated to VertRefresh to '50-60'.09:16
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martiignomefreak: btw it's amd6409:16
RickKnighttolstoy, are you here?09:16
TorbXCool!09:16
martiignomefreak: maybe that's the problem09:16
j2daoshand i need a specify a different username for the share... will i do user=sn,password=passwd?09:16
martiignomefreak: maybe ejabberd 0.9.1 is awailable only for x8609:17
specialbuddyok I restarted x I think but the thing is still not finding anymore options for the monitor other then 640 x 48009:17
eatnumber1mindlace: won't that unmount all of the filesystems?09:17
PuMpErNiCkLeTorbX: Or I may have them backwards...09:17
PuMpErNiCkLeTorbX:  o_O09:17
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gnomefreakmartii, you might be right im looking to see if i find anything about 6409:17
thoreauputic!tell specialbuddy about fixres09:17
mindlacesorry, mount -a, eatnumber109:17
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TorbXPuMpErNiCkLe: Seems right, restarting now.09:17
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TorbXDo I have to restart the computer?09:18
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eatnumber1mindlace: lol... how do i add a script in the last runlevel?09:18
ftg2TorbX: shutdown now -r09:18
ashygdoes anyone know why the dapper install cd is not detecting my pci ide controller?09:18
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TorbXftg2: Que?09:18
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j2daoshok what do i have to enable to make samba work?09:18
ashygbreezy detected it fine09:18
ftg2TorbX: either do it from a menu, or in a terminal type: sudo shutdown now -r09:18
PuMpErNiCkLeTorbX: cool09:18
PuMpErNiCkLeTorbX: No, just the xserver.09:19
PuMpErNiCkLeTorbX: ctrl+alt+backspace09:19
eatnumber1j2daosh: do you have a password on that share?09:19
ftg2TorbX: excuse me. i'm misreading stuff09:19
ftg2TorbX: just ignore me ;)09:19
j2daoshyep09:19
thoreauputicashyg: dapper is the development version - you might want to check bugzilla, or write a bug report09:19
PuMpErNiCkLeftg2: ;)09:19
j2daoshwhen i added to fstab i got a funky error09:19
j2daosh9492: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)09:19
j2daoshSMB connection failed09:19
eatnumber1j2daosh: dont add it to fstab till u can mount on command line09:19
ashygthoreauputic: do you know of a way i could get the latest kernel in breezy?09:20
TorbXPuMpErNiCkLe:  Ough, failed to restart the graphical server... but it restarted the dpkg-thing for me, Ill write the stuff in there! :-) But maybe the other way then?09:20
j2daoshok ill comment it out09:20
ashygbecause there is an issue with the linux kernel where my ethernet controller is not properl supported09:20
martiignomefreak: don't worry09:20
PuMpErNiCkLeTorbX: No, I think I got it right the first time.09:20
gnomefreakmartii, it works fine on 6409:20
martiignomefreak: I'll try to find source package09:20
martiignomefreak: and recompile it somehow09:20
gnomefreakthe tarball is the source package09:20
eatnumber1j2daosh: try running "sudo apt-get install smbfs" to make sure u have everything u need to mount smb filesystems09:20
ashygit's been fixed in the latest kernel packages09:20
martiignomefreak: I ment deb src09:20
mindlaceeatnumber1: the easiest thing is to replace russell with the ip address, then it should work09:20
thoreauputicashyg: not really, unless you are good at compiling kernels - the kernels for breezy won't be changed except for security issues09:20
martiignomefreak: to have all startup scripts ready09:21
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j2daoshgot it already09:21
martiignomefreak: and working09:21
eatnumber1mindlace: ok, trying that now09:21
ashygthoreauputic: what's the difference of install OEM and install to hard disk on the bootloader?09:21
TorbXwhat the hell is my root pswd??09:21
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ashygtorbx type your user password09:21
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paulproteus|laptubotu: tell torbx about root09:21
PuMpErNiCkLeTorbX: You shouldn't need it...09:21
gnomefreakTorbX, user password09:21
mindlaceTorbX: doesn't come with a root password, use sudo09:21
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PuMpErNiCkLeTorbX: what mindlace said :)09:21
mindlaceif you need to set the root passwd, do sudo passwd09:22
TorbXoh09:22
AeroI have just installed Ubuntu for the first time and am trying to connect my wifi card to my wlan... I use a WPA TKIP+AES key, but I only see an option for WEP. anyone know how to set my WPA key?09:22
TorbX:-$09:22
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thoreauputicashyg: I assume OEM is for Original Equipment Manufacturers -i.e. for people who need to customise a setup09:22
ashygthoreauputic: is there any idea of when dapper will officially release?09:22
eatnumber1j2daosh: i've never seen that error... try googling it. google will be able to show u how to mount smb shares better than i can anyway09:22
paulproteus|lapt!wpa09:22
ubotuwpa is, like, totally, enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant"09:22
gnomefreakno need ever for root you can always use sudo -i or sudo su09:22
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thoreauputicashyg: Aprill 20th09:22
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ashygthat's in a long time09:22
evilhello, how did I put my files .mp3 in ubuntu?09:22
tonyyarussoI have a directory full of files named in the format '## - Important_Part_of_the_Name'.  I want to remove the numbers, spaces, and hyphen at the beginning.  I was told a perl expression for replacing spaces with underscores, should I just modify that for this?09:22
ashygyea, it's definitely not detecting my PCI IDE drives :(09:22
evilmy others files is in windows09:23
ashygi'll put a bugzilla ticket in09:23
thoreauputicashyg: Ubuntu releases every 6 months09:23
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ashygwhat do you suggest i do in the meantime? buy a PCI ethernet card?09:23
tonyyarussoevil: Could you explain a bit more what you mean?09:23
thegladiatorny GUI''s for mplayer besides gmplayer ?09:23
gnomefreakusing breezy maybe?09:23
azionAnyone here experienced with Gnome themes?09:23
thegladiatorXINE is creating a few problms with m09:23
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_jasontonyyarusso, rename 's/## - //' *, will work I think09:23
ashyggnomefreak: you talking to me?09:23
gnomefreakyes09:23
thegladiatorVLC/totem all us XINE09:23
ashyggnomefreak: breezy's kernel is out of date09:23
ashygand doesn't work with my ethernet controller09:24
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_jasontonyyarusso, of course you should be in the directory where those files are when you run that09:24
eviltonyyarusso, well, what I really need is take my musics that I have in an other system09:24
eviland that system is windows09:24
tonyyarusso_jason, All right, that looks like the thing I was told before.  Thanks.09:24
gnomefreakdappers kernel is not stable09:24
ashygdapper has the proper version of the kernel, at least so says bugzilla09:24
tonyyarussoevil, Same machine, different partition, or a different computer?09:24
ashygwell gnomefreak i'd rather an unstable one that lets me get online than a stable one that i can't do anything with ;)09:24
evildifferente partition09:24
thegladiatorcan someone suggest a GUI for mplayer besides GMplayer ? with nice interface ?09:24
ashyghow much do PCI ethernet adaptors cost?09:24
gnomefreakashyg, what pci card do you have that wont run on breezy but will on dapper?09:24
evilIt's the same computer09:24
ashygit's not pci, it's on my motherboard09:25
tonyyarussoevil: Okay, check this:09:25
tonyyarusso!windowsmounts09:25
ubotutonyyarusso: Did you get hit by a windmill?09:25
ashygthe uli m5261 gnomefreak09:25
tonyyarusso!mountwindows09:25
ubotuDownload and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions09:25
PuMpErNiCkLe!windmill09:25
ubotuPuMpErNiCkLe: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?09:25
paulproteus|laptthegladiator: I suggest totem-xine over mplayer.09:25
PuMpErNiCkLe!breadbox09:25
ubotuPuMpErNiCkLe: I give up, what is it?09:25
thegladiatortotem-xine is what I have09:25
gnomefreakashyg, go to walmart or whereever they have pci ehternet cards for under 20 uds09:25
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gnomefreakusd09:25
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thoreauputicPuMpErNiCkLe: don't play witht the bot, please :)09:25
ashygit's a known issue with the tulip drivers in the linux kernel, i found a patch at kernel.org and the ubuntu devs said it's been implemented in dapper09:25
thegladiatorbut when I play divx movies I can see a small tiny line blinking at the rear end of the screen09:26
_jasonthegladiator, you can get skins for mplayer from their site09:26
javaTardAre the ubuntu forums not running for other people as well?09:26
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ashygokay i will just go buy a pci ethernet card after class... time to go to class :) thanks for the help, guys09:26
tonyyarussoevil, That will tell you how to get at your Windows stuff, and you can either play the files from there, or if you have room and want to for some reason, copy them to the Ubuntu partition if you so please.09:26
_jasonjavaTard, working here09:26
Hoxzeraargh how can I get my system trays back?09:26
azionI got a prob with Gnome theme, can anyone help me?09:26
eatnumber1yea, i was having trouble with it09:26
javaTardhmmmmm, ok09:26
javaTardmaybe it's me09:26
thegladiator_jason, nto a problem of skin . need a better interface09:26
_jasonazion, just ask your question09:26
fanopnaicdoes xine use gstreamer?09:26
thegladiatornot just the looks i mean09:26
thegladiatorxine doesnt use gstreamer09:27
specialbuddyhow can I bring up a root console09:27
eatnumber1javatard: i was having trouble getting on too09:27
gnomefreakspecialbuddy, sudo -i09:27
thegladiatorin fedora there was something called kmplayer I guess09:27
fanopnaick09:27
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javaTardeatnumber1: ok, so it aint just me. thanks09:27
_jasonthegladiator, the skins rearrange the buttons.  Not sure what exactly you want to do.  I prefer mplayer with keyboard shortcuts09:27
azion_jason, The background in my tray is gone white, while the main bar is black09:27
gnomefreakthegladiator, its mplayer now09:27
thegladiatorjust mplayer gn0me ?09:27
PuMpErNiCkLethoreauputic: sorry, but it was too tempting :)09:27
thegladiatorit has a good GUI ?09:27
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fanopnaicdoes xine use the w32codecs package then? :)09:27
gnomefreakthegladiator, as far as i know mplayer runs on both kde and gnome09:27
fanopnaicor only internal codecs.09:28
thoreauputicfanopnaic: yes it does09:28
mwethegladiator: use gmplayer if you like a gui09:28
gnomefreak!mplayer09:28
ubotuwell, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106109:28
_jasonazion, press ALT+F2, then enter 'killall gnome-panel'09:28
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fanopnaicok thx09:28
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azion_jason, Why?09:28
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tonyyarusso_jason, Follow-up on previous: Does that rename expression actually understand the ## part to be any number (to do them all at once), or do I need to put in something else/do them individually?09:28
_oPwant to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset on ubuntu but how to reinstall ati fglrx after reboot if even needed? also i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes?09:28
thegladiatormwe, gmplayer is what I have , but GUI is not really good09:28
j2daoshhey... i got it to connect and i see the mount on my desktop... did it autmatically get placed in my fstab?09:28
calvinhow do I cange my compuyter's name on the network?09:28
_jasonazion, that will restart the panel09:28
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bigonhi09:28
specialbuddyI looked in my monitor manual and it says, To execute X-Window, you need to make the X86Config file09:28
specialbuddyanyone know what that means09:28
mwethegladiator: not really, no.09:28
_jasontonyyarusso, oh those are numbers lol09:29
azion_jason, I've already restarted, and still the same prob09:29
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thegladiatorthanks np09:29
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tonyyarusso_jason, Yeah.  They're tracks from a CD.09:29
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azion_jason, I don't think it's the skin I'm using09:29
gnomefreakcalvin, system>admin>networking09:29
thoreauputicspecialbuddy: don't do that - run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  if X won't run09:29
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gnomefreakcalvin, than click general tab and change host name09:30
_jasontonyyarusso, no it doesn't, use 's/\d{2} - //' I think09:30
eatnumber1anyone know how to set a script to run at boot09:30
tonyyarusso_jason, If I felt really ambitious I suppose I could write a script to detect the number of files in the directory and count up, but...09:30
_jasontonyyarusso, 'man perlrequick'09:30
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bigondoes someone know how the installer makes to discover which modules it must add to the /dev/modules file?09:30
calvingnomefreak, it still comes up as unknown in my router09:30
mweeatnumber1: you can put it in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh09:30
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specialbuddyI ran it so what do I do now09:30
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tonyyarusso_jason, And you just read my mind on my next question.09:30
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eatnumber1mwe: ok, thx09:31
_jasonazion, not sure, I suppose you can try a different theme to check09:31
thoreauputicspecialbuddy: answer the questions , restart X09:31
gnomefreakcalvin, as in you cant configure router cause it doesnt see host name?09:31
yaaarword09:31
_oPwant to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?09:31
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mweeatnumber1: but please back up the original09:31
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lukus001_jason, ok i'm back and i have sudoers open09:31
yaaari didn't realize calvin kline was into kernel hacking...09:31
specialbuddywell how do you restart x because I tried that and it didn't work09:31
_jasontonyyarusso, that one and 'perlretut' are good to read09:31
_jasonlukus001, pastebin please09:31
azion_jason, Others are fine, strange thing is the 1st icon after the time is grand, all the rest are in white09:31
gnomefreaklol yaaar09:32
_oPwant to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?09:32
_oPwant to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?09:32
_oPwant to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?09:32
_oPwant to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?09:32
_oPwant to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?09:32
yaaarquit that09:32
_oPwant to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?09:32
_jason_oP, stop09:32
_oPwant to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?09:32
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lukus001_jason, # User privilege specification09:32
_oPwant to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?09:32
lukus001rootALL=(ALL) ALL09:32
_oPwant to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?09:32
_oPwant to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?09:32
_oPwant to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?09:32
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_jasonubotu, tell lukus001 about pastebin09:32
yaaar_oP: i don't expect it will be long before you're kicked09:32
calvingnomefreak, I'm just trying to have all of my computers identified and in the router it only shows up as unknown09:32
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pete_apumpernickle/_jason:  under about:config is see:  javascript.enabled set to default boolean true and pref.advanced.javascript.disable_button.advanced set to user set boolean false09:32
yaaarding!09:33
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pete_ais/I09:33
azionWhat is the cK patchset?09:33
yaaarazion: calvin kline09:33
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_jasonlukus001, was that the whole file, those two lines?09:33
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pete_ano.09:33
azionyaaar, whichi s?09:33
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lukus001_jason http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/702009:33
pete_ait has a boatload of variables set (those were just the javascript related ones)09:34
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yaaarazion: a bad joke. i actually have no idea what the cK patchset is. calvin kline is the underwear guy...09:34
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pansonicIn terminal how do you not a 2 word name - eg: /media/40 Gigger/09:34
azion!ck09:34
ubotuazion: Did you get hit by a windmill?09:34
specialbuddythoreauputic,  I think I restarted x but I'm still having the same problem09:34
azion!ck patvh09:34
ubotuazion: I haven't a clue09:34
azion!ck patch09:34
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, azion09:34
j2daoshahh09:34
azion!ck patchset09:34
ubotuazion: Are you smoking crack?09:34
yaaarhehe09:34
tonyyarusso_jason, That worked.  Thanks.09:34
_jasonlukus001, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7021, append those last two lines to yours.  Remember to have a blank last line09:35
j2daoshfookin right doggie :) got it... ok now whatelse can i do....09:35
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_jasonazion, is this a custom theme?09:35
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azion_jason, one from gnome-look09:35
j2daoshahh.. where is the windows xp help forum?09:35
azionlol09:35
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yaaarso, uh, anybody know what i have to do to get bmp to play .wma files? i installed the w32 codecs as specified in the wiki on RestrictedFormats ...but it says the files are unsupported09:36
_jasonazion, if that is the only one causing trouble, I think you should just assume it is the theme's fault and find another one09:36
j2daoshyaar... i get file is encrypted... but i think we are just sol09:36
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lukus001_jason, ok done it - should that be it now?09:36
_jasonlukus001, yep09:36
azion_jason, Cheers man, whats CK patchset09:36
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pansonicplease people how do you get terminal to recognise a 2 word file09:37
_jasonazion, no idea09:37
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pansonicdoh!09:37
azion_jason, Thanks09:37
cello_rasppansonic: two\ word09:37
cello_raspor "two word"09:37
tonyyarusso_jason, The man things are telling me 'No manual entry for _'  What do I need?09:37
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pansonicfantastic09:37
_jasonpansonic, or 'two word', take your pick09:37
pansonicthanks09:37
mitrovarryou can also type  the first part and hit tab to fill it out09:37
yaaarj2daosh: ? are you saying maybe the files have drm? because they worked on my other ubuntu box09:37
cello_raspno man, escape characters are where it's at ;)09:38
simakdo I want LPR or CUPS drivers?09:38
mitrovarryeah, but might as well let the shell put them in for you09:38
yaaarsimak: cups09:38
j2daoshi know all the files i have tryed to play are encrypted...09:38
mitrovarrdoes anyone know how to set which monitors the linux console appears on?09:38
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mitrovarrI have a dual monitor set up that works fine in X, but when I log out, the system freezes up because there's a bug in the Nvidia drivers that has to do with restoring the console on the TV out09:39
jimmy567567_jason, it's all working now, thank you so much for all your help09:39
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mitrovarrso I need to get it to not try to restore the console to the TV09:39
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_jasonjimmy567567, np09:40
pete_a**newbie alert** does any know how to allow pasting operations in about:config?09:40
jimmy567567_lol it lukus001 by the way need to change my name09:40
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_jasonpete_a, can you give me a link to where you are trying to paste09:40
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whyameyeis there a way to make my computer stop beeping when I wake it up from hibernating etc.?09:40
mitrovarryaaar, I think the problem only involves tv-outs.  This computer had two monitors and that worked fine09:40
yaaarah09:41
_jasonlukus001, lol I was wondering who jimmy was09:41
specialbuddyit's easy to understand why people don't go with something other then windows because I can't even get a monitor to work correctly09:41
mitrovarruse twinview if you set it up, it works great... not like the old xinerama support that would maxamize windows across two monitors :-)09:41
lukus001_jason, yeah sorry i had to change it when i was messing about, thanks again though, much appreciated09:41
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whyameyeSuspend to RAM works for me about 80% of the time. The other 20% the computer seems to turn on but the screen never lights up and I don't get any response from the computer except the whirring of the fan, disk, etc. How would I troubleshoot this?09:41
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yaaarso, uh, anybody know what i have to do to get bmp to play .wma files? i installed the w32 codecs as specified in the wiki on RestrictedFormats ...but it says the files are unsupported. the same files play fine in totem09:42
pete_a_jason:  it's into a kupu editor window, in plone under Zope on my development machine09:42
specialbuddywhat do I have to do to get my monitor to work09:42
specialbuddy?09:42
tonyyarussoyaaar, Might be a plugin?09:42
factotumdont know, never tried a .wma in bmp09:42
pete_a_jason:  i'm running firefox 1.5 and plone 2.1.109:42
pete_a_jason:  if that helps at all09:43
j2daoshhey anyone use the firestarter firewall?09:43
tonyyarussoyaaar, Or try reinstalling bmp, because it might not have recognized the codecs being installed yet.  I know that's an issue with some players.09:43
seashell11I use firestarter j2daosh09:43
crimsunyaaar: b-m-p doesn't use w32codecs.09:43
yaaartonyyarusso: i looked around synaptic...didn't find anything that looked obviously related. anybody know what plugin i might want?09:43
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t_kamenAnyone feel like fronting a ytalk question? :)09:43
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mitrovarrwhat kind of file are you trying to play?  if it has DRM you're probably never going to get it working09:43
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yaaartonyyarusso: ah. ok, i'll give that a shot09:43
j2daoshseashell... u know how to set it up? like mod the defaults and all that?09:43
tonyyarussocrimsun, As in it can't?09:43
lowman62specialbuddy: that is why it is a great idea to check to make sure that all your hardware is supported before attempting to install any distro of linux ;)09:43
crimsuntonyyarusso: as in it doesn't. I maintain it.09:43
mitrovarrlike if it's a file from an online music service or something09:43
yaaarcrimsun: really....there's no way to get support for them?09:43
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specialbuddyIt should work09:44
tonyyarussoyaaar, On the other hand, crimsun I'm thinking just maybe is more knowledgable on this than me.09:44
yaaarmitrovarr: there's no drm on these....i'm playing them in totem right now. i just want to be able to use bmp09:44
specialbuddyIt knows my video card and it knows what kind of monitor it is09:44
mitrovarrah09:44
_jasonpete_a, I don;t know what plone is.  Are you basically trying to use some online app where you need to paste into and get referred to that error you linked before?09:44
mitrovarrwell, I wouldn't know, otherwise, I just knew that drm'd files were probably a lost cause.09:44
specialbuddybut I can't change the resolution09:44
mitrovarrI don't use bmp09:44
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crimsunyaaar: you _may_ have luck with xmms. There are a fair number of attempts at it, none of which I know to be complete.09:44
lowman62specialbuddy: what is it that is happening...i just stepped back in here from being on the phone so i missed a lot of what you were saying09:45
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mwe!fixres09:45
ubotuPlease read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:45
j2daoshseashell11, i am gonna need to change some setting in it (setting up port forwarding and stuff like that because i ssh to it alot... so yeah) you know how to do that?09:45
yaaarcrimsun: this seems silly...i mean, the codecs are there, you'd think writing the plugin to use them would be trivial09:45
seashell11after you open it up and have it running, just try making a connection however you are going to be doing it09:46
TorbXGod damn! No matter what I do when using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, i CANT get higher resolution than 1024x768. My monitor is good for much more.09:46
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TorbX1200 x 160009:46
redguyt_kamen: ask it, maybe somebody will know09:46
specialbuddywell I want to know why I can't go into display and fix the resolution size09:46
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seashell11then open up firestarter, and it will have a warning message, and right click on it and tell firstarter to allow connections09:46
mitrovarrTorbx:  Have you tried hand-editing your xorg.conf?09:46
pete_a_jason: are you familiar with kupu?  becuz i can paste, i just can't paste into kupu09:46
lowman62specialbuddy: are you at the desktop? or stuck in a CLI09:46
seashell11accordintg to ip address or port or however you want it09:46
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TorbXyes... it tells me there are lots of more resolutions..09:46
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mitrovarrhmm09:47
j2daoshso make the connection first then start firestarter?09:47
_jasonpete_a, nope, sry.  I'm afraid if you were able to get those preferences setup like the error message requested and it's still not working, I won't really be able to help you09:47
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lowman62specialbuddy: if you are at a desktop what is your resolution set at?09:47
pete_a_jason:  it has to be a combination of kupu and firefox/ubuntu09:47
seashell11start firestarter, then make the connection09:47
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j2daoshok09:47
mitrovarrmaybe your monitor section has scan freqs that make X think it can't handle those high resolutions09:47
apollo2011When I try to compile a C++ project in KDevelop, the configure script comes back that the C PreProcessor failed the sanity check.  Anyone had this problem or now what is causing it?09:47
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specialbuddydisconnected myself on accident09:47
crimsunapollo2011: did you install build-essential?09:47
_jasonapollo2011, did you install build-essential09:48
MoratoriumIm back09:48
pete_a_jason: thanks for trying09:48
lowman62specialbuddy: are you at the desktop? or stuck in a CLI09:48
seashell11firestarter will have a warning massage, and you rightclick on it and tell it to let this connection according to ip address or port09:48
lowman62specialbuddy: if you are at a desktop what is your resolution set at?09:48
Moratorium_Jason Im back09:48
specialbuddydesktop 640x48009:48
t_kamenMy ytalk freezes and gives me in "interrupted system call" error.. any ideas?09:48
_jasonMoratorium, ok, remind me what we were working on09:48
Moratoriumand Im getting the same problem as before09:48
flogistonHi does anyone know tightvncserver good?09:48
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Moratoriumxserver09:48
Moratoriumwont start09:48
mwespecialbuddy: you _need_ to read the wiki.09:48
specialbuddyI did09:48
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Moratoriumsays it cant find any screens09:48
apollo2011crimsun: _jason: nope, that might be it...09:48
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lowman62specialbuddy: what is the monitor that you have?09:49
mwespecialbuddy: you should then do what it says09:49
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ludidoes ubuntu come with a firewall setup?09:49
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specialbuddysamsung syncmaster 930b09:49
specialbuddyand it picked it up09:49
estudianteyrangehola09:49
simakyaaar, thanks about the CUPs.09:49
specialbuddyalong with my video card09:49
yaaarhey neat....looks like there's a wma plugin for bmp that's not in the official repos, but seveas has a deb in his09:49
yaaarsimak: np09:49
seashell11did you get that j2daosh ?09:49
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lowman62specialbuddy: one moment09:49
mwespecialbuddy: you still need to edit xorg.conf it doesn't work correctly09:49
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mwespecialbuddy: like the wiki says09:50
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lowman62specialbuddy: are you in gnome?09:50
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specialbuddyI looked at the file and it looks fine09:50
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specialbuddyno09:50
specialbuddykde09:50
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flogistonI get this error message when trying to start tightvncserver09:51
flogistonhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/702209:51
SweetestSavageI got a major problem, is anyone here willing to help me solve it?09:51
redguy!tell ludi about firewall09:51
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lowman62specialbuddy: if you were in gnome you could go to System>Preferences>Screen Resolution ...dunno with kde :P09:51
redguy!ask09:51
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lusiusFUCK MICROSOFT!09:51
mwespecialbuddy: well it's not fine or it would work. did you specify HorizSync and VertRefresh to the values your monitor manual lists?09:51
redguy!tell SweetestSavage about ask09:52
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mwelowman62: not if xorg.conf is broken09:52
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seashell11j2daosh or you can open up firestarter, and click on policy then click either below Allow connections from host or below allow service, the you click add rule09:52
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specialbuddyit doesn't list any in the manual09:52
mwespecialbuddy: then google does09:52
SweetestSavageredguy, I mean I need to PM someone and get them to help me through it.. basically Ubuntu just completely crashed on me..09:52
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mwespecialbuddy: like the wiki says, again09:52
lowman62mwe: he never told me that xorg was muzzled...09:52
skelhas anyone ever had issues with boot freezing at loading hotplugging system? I've got a dual xeon blade that keeps locking up there after installing the smp kernel09:52
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mwespecialbuddy: I thougt you read it09:52
mitrovarrspecialbuddy:  If you know your monitor's capabilities, you can calculate approximate values from there09:52
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X3Nbing09:52
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X3NHas anyone experienced the Ctrl+Alt+F1-7 not doing anything in Breezy ?09:53
skelI've tried noapic and nolapic in the kernel options09:53
X3Nie if you want to get to ttty109:53
mweX3N: no not here09:53
simakdid you know that BROTHER is releasing GPL cups drivers.  WHOA COOL.09:53
cello_raspfor some reason mplayer won09:53
redguySweetestSavage: why do you want PM somebody?09:53
X3Nit's really annoying me09:53
cello_raspfor some reason mplayer won't resize on fullscreen09:53
SweetestSavageHere's what happened: I was chrooting in my 32-bit chroot, playing Ragnarok Online (I run AMD64 ubuntu) in WINE. Now, the game froze up due to instability, and when I logged back on the X server crashed. I logged into the console, typed startx, and the x server restarted. However, since then, GNOME applets have been behaving very strangely, closing and reopening rapidly.. it's stopped now, but hardly anything works.09:53
skelX3N: can you use any keyboard activity?09:53
lowman62skel: it works for me here...never ran into that one09:54
X3Nyep, all the other keys work as far as i can tell09:54
skelX3N: it could be your keymap09:54
X3NI am using X keyboard settings in gnome09:54
X3Ninstead of gnome's ones09:54
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skellowman62: which kernel image do you use if you don't mind me asking?09:54
X3Nwould that make a difference ?09:54
skellowman62: I've got the HS20 blades09:54
mweSweetestSavage: try renaming .gnome in your homedir to see if it's a profile problem09:54
pestilenceis there any way to get the newest version of amaroK going in hoary?09:54
Aerocan someone help me setup WPA wifi encryption with ubuntu?09:54
lowman62skel: one sec let me check09:54
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skelX3N: I think it may if F1 - F7 aren't sending the right keycodes09:55
skelX3N: just a guess09:55
mitrovarrSweetestSavaga:  You couldn't have filled up your hard drive, could you?  I filled mine up a while ago and it caused a similar problem.09:55
tonyyarusso_jason, The man things from are telling me 'No manual entry for _'  What do I need?09:55
skelX3N: maybe not09:55
pestilenceor does that need the latest version of KDE09:55
mweSweetestSavage: it should then create a new profile. then you can try to fix the old profile if the problem goes away09:55
pestilencewhich isn't in hoary09:55
X3Nthanks skel i'll give it a go next time i'm going out of X09:55
tonyyarussoHow can I create a .m3u playlist file in folder1 for all of the music files (.ogg) in folder1/subfolder2?09:55
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TorbXYES! Resolution is cool now.09:55
_jasontonyyarusso, what exactly are you typing?09:55
skelX3N: hope you get it =] 09:55
cello_raspAero: system > admin > network09:55
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Moratorium_jason09:55
Moratoriumwhat do you suggest09:56
ludiredguy: can I trust this firestarter firewall?  I didn't really ask me any specific questions about what I want to do, but I notice iptables -L has a huge list of entries now....09:56
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tonyyarusso_jason, man perlrequick, man perlretut.09:56
_jasonMoratorium, what's the exact error you are getting?09:56
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pestilencetonyyarusso: couldn't you just do "find -name "*.ogg" > my.m3u ?09:56
cello_raspAero: click on the properties for the wireless card and the encryption options will be there. good luck09:56
TorbXI have one more question, that I guess is more of a trivia... The icons on my (gnome?) desktop is umh... not very tidy.. How do I automatically tidy them up? Evt making them smaller?09:56
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Moratoriumit says no screens detected in the error09:56
tonyyarussopestilence, Quite possibly, but I don't know all these tricks yet  :)09:56
Moratoriumthen it goes to the prompt09:57
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pestilencetonyyarusso: well, i'm not familiar with m3u's, but if a list of files will work, that command is what you want.09:57
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j2daosheatnumber1, worked for me just fine ...09:57
X3Ncello_rasp, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114583&highlight=mplayer+fullscreen09:57
lowman62skel: sorry someone came to the door my kernel is ver 2.6.12-10-38609:57
cello_raspthx X3N09:57
skellowman62: smp ?09:57
tonyyarussopestilence, Okay, I'll try it.  Are you familiar with a different playlist format that I should know about?09:58
pestilencetonyyarusso: nope. :-D09:58
skellowman62: because the default install works, just not when we install a smp one09:58
_jasonMoratorium, have you tried searching the forums or googling for that error?  I've never come across it, sorry09:58
_jasontonyyarusso, install 'perl-doc'09:58
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lowman62skel: the automagick updater installed it about 2 weeks ago I believe...dunno! *shrugs* LOL :P09:58
MoratoriumI think it has to do with the graphics card drivers09:58
tonyyarusso_jason, Thanks.09:59
pestilencetonyyarusso: works for me with xmms09:59
mitrovarrno screens detected?  That's one of the most common X errors I get when I screw up the xorg.conf09:59
skellowman62: if you cat /proc/cpuinfo does it show more than one processor? =] 09:59
Rupert`anyone know why i get this error (pasted at http://pastebin.com/502953) when i try to run Synaptic?09:59
Moratoriumcould you tell me how to enable the vesa drivers09:59
redguyludi: I'm no firewall expert, nor I use firestarter. Linux's bultin firewall (netfilter) is robust, but configuring it via tools like firestarter may not always be what you want. Read firestarter's documentation on how to tweak it.10:00
tonyyarussopestilence, The m3us that I have appear to just be text lists, so it should be right.10:00
lowman62skel: yes but I do have more than one on this system10:00
_jasonMoratorium, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then change driver "nv" to driver "vesa"10:00
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pestilencetonyyarusso: you might want to do the "find" command on the full path to the files10:00
tonyyarussopestilence, Okay.10:00
skellowman62: hmm ok. we've got dual xeons that are HT and only 1 proc shows with the default -386 kernel   I'll poke around10:00
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_jasonMoratorium, just go to the part about the video card to get in the right section.  Backup the file before you change it10:00
skellowman62: thanks for checking10:00
ludiwhere is the Run dialogue in the menu?10:01
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mwelowman62: you need an smp kernel to get linux to recongnize ht/multiple processors10:01
lowman62skel: your welcome10:01
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pestilencetonyyarusso: i.e. `find /path/to/files/ -name "*.ogg" > my.m3u`10:01
SweetestSavageredguy, sorry about that. Ubuntu crashed on me when I tried to open up a terminal window.10:01
X3NRupert` i don't think Packages is right10:01
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mc76Hi, I was trying to install breezy under a Dell Dimension 3100, and after throwing some Usb error it halts after syslod,klogd. I've seen this report in Google but haven't seen any solution. Would trying the drapper installer help? or any other suggestion?10:02
Rupert`:/10:02
lysisexit10:02
X3Nhave you changed your apt reposiotry at all ?10:02
Rupert`it used to work before10:02
lowman62skel: ok *shrugs* mine works ...:P10:02
Rupert`but now its stopped working for some reason :|10:02
X3Nthe lines should be simular to : deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe10:02
Rupert`and i didnt change anything10:02
lowman62shows 210:02
X3Nthats odd10:02
Moratorium_jason, I dont see an "nv"10:03
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Moratorium_jason, I dont see an "nv"10:03
ludidoes firestarter need to be running always in order for the firewall to be on?10:03
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_jasonMoratorium, what's it say for the driver under the video card section?10:03
ludiwhere is the Run dialogue in the menu?10:03
rejdenis there any ubuntu translation channel?10:03
mweludi: did you click around?10:03
rejdenludi, try console10:03
_jasonrejden, are you looking for a particular language?10:03
lowman62ludi: no firestarter is just a gui front end to iptables..so no you do not have to run it after you tweak it the way you want it10:03
mweludi: or press alt-f210:03
mitrovarrMoratorium:  There should be a "Section "Device"" section.  Under that it should have "Driver "nv"".  That's what you want10:04
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Storkhi, i'm having huge problems with ubuntu. i was playing quake4 and it just crashed, so i had to do a manual restart, then i re-loaded, quake4 wouldn't run, neither would xmms, so i do another manual restart and xserver doesn't run.10:04
ludimwe:  no Run dialogue....10:04
ludilowman62: does the firewall start automatically on boot up?  or do I need to launch app?10:04
rejden_jason, no, i'm looking for few questions about rosetta, mainly download/upload of PO with cvs/subversion/whatever but not rosetta10:04
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tonyyarussopestilence, It worked.10:04
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mweludi: not with alt-f2 either?10:04
Aerocello_rasp: encryption settings arent in the network settings10:04
AeroI've looked there :|10:04
lowman62ludi: yes it does10:05
pestilencetonyyarusso: cool10:05
ludimwe: yea Alt-f2 works, but I'm saying there is no menu item for Run10:05
Moratoriumit says Device "ATI Technologies, Inc. ATI Default Card"10:05
ludilowman62: but if I click "stop" then it won't automatically enable firewall anymore, correct?10:05
SweetestSavageProblem here.. big one: Okay, I was chrooting in my 32-bit chroot (running Ragnarok Online under WINE, I am using Ubuntu AMD64), and it crashed due to instability. So, I restarted the computer, and the X Server broke. It wouldn't start up, so I restarted it. It started up okay, but then all the GNOME applets began behaving awkwardly. They would open and reopen rapidly, saying "Cannot open 'gnome-appletname'" and buttons for Rel10:05
SweetestSavageoad and Close were available. Every time I clicked reload, the same window would pop back up. If I hit close, the same window would also pop back up, and then it eventually stopped. But now, my system is completely unstable and even trying to run X-Chat is dangerous, because it crashed even when trying to run a terminal window. Any ideas?10:05
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mitrovarrMoratorium:  That means you have an ATI card, or you configured it for one.  It should still have a 'Driver' section that you can change to vesa if you want.10:06
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lowman62ludi: no it will just stop it for that session but once you reboot...voila there it is10:06
mitrovarrMoratorium:  But why are you setting to vesa?10:06
Storkhi, i'm having huge problems with ubuntu. i was playing quake4 and it just crashed, so i had to do a manual restart, then i re-loaded, quake4 wouldn't run, neither would xmms, so i do another manual restart and xserver doesn't run.10:06
mweSweetestSavage: did you try my suggestion?10:06
Moratoriumbecoz its not working on ATI10:06
trkoreckyHow is SUSE 10.0 in comparison with Ubuntu 5.10?10:06
mitrovarrah10:06
tonyyarusso_jason, The perl mans are working as well.  Thanks.10:06
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SweetestSavagemwe, I didn't see it, sorry, my comp crashed before I could10:06
mweSweetestSavage: ok10:06
ludilowman62:  why does my firewall show a blocked connection from i122126017.rivernet.com.au with protocol UDP?10:06
mitrovarrwell, try changing the driver section when you find it10:07
mitrovarrwhat kind of video card is in there, do you know?10:07
redguySweetestSavage: maybe you fried your hardware?10:07
redguy:>10:07
SweetestSavageredguy, my hardware is fine.10:07
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SweetestSavageredguy, it's Ubuntu AMD6410:07
SweetestSavageredguy, it's very unstable.. I really don't recommend it.. =/10:07
ludilowman62:  under Policy tab, Inbound traffic policy is blank, why is that?10:07
lowman62ludi: means the firewall did its job...blocked is the operative word10:07
XeDoXAre ubuntu really free10:07
mweSweetestSavage: I would try renaming .gnome or gnome2, don't remeber the name and let it create a new profile10:07
_jasonXeDoX, of course10:07
Storkhi, i'm having huge problems with ubuntu. i was playing quake4 and it just crashed, so i had to do a manual restart, then i re-loaded, quake4 wouldn't run, neither would xmms, so i do another manual restart and xserver doesn't run. I think i'm going to install kde and see if that helps10:07
ludilowman62: who was that though that was attacking me?10:07
pete_a**newbie alert**:: i've got two default dirs under ~/.mozilla/firefox10:07
ftg2XeDoX: you won't spend a penny on it.. just all of your valuable time.10:07
XeDoXI'm from Bulgaria10:07
mweSweetestSavage: then fix the old one if that makes the problem go away10:08
SweetestSavagemwe, hm, well, I'm thinking of just install Ubuntu 32-bit anyways.10:08
Moratoriumwhere is the driver section?10:08
pete_acan anyone tell me (a) if this is a problem, (b) how i resolve this issue, if it is?10:08
SweetestSavageinstalling*10:08
mweSweetestSavage: yeah10:08
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mitrovarrMoratorium:  The xorg.conf should have a Section "Device" area.  In that, there should be a line that says "Driver "**something**"10:08
SweetestSavagemwe, AMD64 is so unstable right now.. and the support is pretty low.. lot's of things don't run properly.10:08
_jasonMoratorium, right below where it says your video card it should say "driver     "something""10:08
SweetestSavagemwe, I hope they fix it for Dapper..10:08
mitrovarrchange the part inside the quotes to 'vesa'10:08
SweetestSavagemwe, or atleast improve10:08
jadanzzyhello everyone10:08
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_oP2hello again, after beeing banned!!10:08
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_oP2damn u !10:08
Storkhi, i'm having huge problems with ubuntu. i was playing quake4 and it just crashed, so i had to do a manual restart, then i re-loaded, quake4 wouldn't run, neither would xmms, so i do another manual restart and xserver doesn't run. I think i'm going to install kde and see if that helps10:08
_oP2:)):)10:08
tim__wait10:08
mweSweetestSavage: to much stuff is not working or only half working in ubuntu 64bit like multimedia10:09
tim__quake4 runs on linux?!10:09
mitrovarrStork:  What kind of errors does it generate when X tries to start?10:09
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trappisttim__: yes10:09
SweetestSavagemwe, yep. Good thing AMD64 is backwards compatible.10:09
mitrovarrtim__:  Yeah, it has a way to install it natively.  Almost all ID games do,.10:09
Pygianyone actually know how to add .phtml processing to ubuntu edition of apache2?10:09
tim__trappist: woah10:09
Storkmitrovarr, i don't know, it freezes before i can do anything10:09
jadanzzycan someone help me regarding the PPTPconfig prog10:09
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Moratoriummitrovarr. must I change it next to Device?10:09
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lowman62ludi: right mouse click and resolve the address..dunno usually it just drops the packets and does not reply so no one knew you were there10:09
_oP2cheers ! baby!10:09
tim__i should run it through wine or what?10:09
mitrovarrMoratorium:  What do you mean?  You want the part in quotes to the right of Driver, not the part to the right of Section10:09
mweSweetestSavage: it will get better over time. nothing much to do but waiting for now10:10
invitadohow change resolution 800x600?10:10
mitrovarrMoratorium:  It should say ati10:10
invitadohelp10:10
XeDoXDo I need to pay in the post office10:10
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Moratoriumthere is no driver10:10
trappisttim__: no, it runs native10:10
lowman62brb phone10:10
SweetestSavagemwe, yep. Alright, well, I think I'll try your suggestion first.10:10
XeDoXSorry for my English10:10
Moratoriumonly device then ""10:10
mitrovarrMoratorium: That would be a problem10:10
tim__oh.10:10
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lowman62_away.10:10
Pygianyone actually know how to add .phtml processing to ubuntu edition of apache2?10:10
SweetestSavage!mount10:10
ubotumount is, like, totally, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f10:10
mitrovarrMoratorium:  Put in a line under Section "Device" that says Driver "vesa"10:10
_oP2<--- trying "still " licking his presures booz from his elbows10:10
Moratoriumok10:10
tim__if i have the retail version of quake4, can i install it on linux?10:10
mitrovarrStork:  does it bring you to the graphical login screen?10:11
Pygianyone actually know how to add .phtml processing to ubuntu edition of apache2?10:11
mitrovarrStork:  When you boot up, I mean, or does it crash before then?10:11
trappisttim__: yes10:11
cello_rasphow do i configure sound juicer to encode in mp3?10:11
mitrovarrtim__:  If you game a lot and want to in linux, some others that work are UT2004 and Neverwinter Nights10:11
trappisttim__: just need to download the linux client10:11
Storkmitrovarr, i get the loading ubuntu screen, then it all goes black and i have to restart10:11
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_oP2;)10:11
apollo2011Now KDevelop is saying it can't find /lib/libacl.la10:11
trappistapollo2011: libacl1-dev10:12
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mitrovarrStork:  That sounds bad.  I think it's probably beyond my ability to fix.  But one thing that might help is to switch desktops away from the graphical bootup screen so you can see what step it fails on10:12
_oP2pull my finger !10:12
Pygianyone actually know how to add .phtml processing to ubuntu edition of apache2?10:12
Estel|ukcan I break down and cry? :(10:12
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_oP2now!!!!!10:12
mweapollo2011: is libacl1-dev installed?10:12
Storkmitrovarr, yeah, i think i'm done with computers now10:12
_oP2ahhhh! to late!10:12
alekandrPygi: configure it in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf10:12
Storkmitrovarr, i just lost a good weeks worth of source code + quake4 saved games10:13
mitrovarrStork:  It sounds like it might have done something bad to your hard drive, maybe the drive failing is what caused it in the first place10:13
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_oP2cant help it just listening to alien project :p10:13
mitrovarrStork:  It's certainly worth taking the hard drive out and trying to read it on another machine to see if it's really hashed or if the linux install just got wrecked10:13
apollo2011no I saw that but somehow was thinking I couldn't need the -dev package10:13
Storkoh good, hardware problems!10:13
Estel|ukIs there an east way to recover /dev ?10:13
Estel|uk*easy10:14
Storkmitrovarr, i can run as root easily10:14
trappistEstel|uk: reboot10:14
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_oP2this calles up for revolution , so blame it on to the music10:14
mitrovarrStork:  Oh.  Well, I'm kind of at a loss, then.10:14
_oP2:)10:14
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trappistEstel|uk: those aren't real files.  /dev is a pseudo filesystem that gets populated as devices are dicovered10:14
Estel|ukok trappist, slightly harder, but is there an easy way to recover /home (I know the answer... but I like asking)10:14
trappistEstel|uk: restore your backup :)10:14
Estel|ukwhat backup? ;)10:15
mitrovarrStork:  I thought it might be something easy, like a problem with the .ICEauthority file like I always have10:15
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trappistsucks to be you10:15
Estel|uknah, I have lots on the Windows partition10:15
SweetestSavagemwe, there's two of them.. .gnome and .gnome2, do I rename both of them?10:15
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Estel|ukI forgot to unmount /dev and /home and /tmp and /cdrom from /chroot before I STUPIDLY did "rm -rf /chroot/*10:16
trkoreckyPerformance-wise between SUSE 10.0 and Ubuntu 5.10, which runs better on older computers?10:16
hypa7iaanyone know of problems with reading dvd+r in breezy?  it's impossible to search for, alas10:16
_oP2someone know a answer to following question?10:16
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simakdo I need mepis to install a printer?10:16
trappistEstel|uk: doh10:16
Sionidesimak, to install a printer on what?10:17
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mc76I was trying to install breezy under a Dell Dimension 3100, and after throwing some Usb error it halts after syslod,klogd. I've seen this report in Google but haven't seen any solution. Would trying the drapper installer help? or any other suggestion?10:17
mweSweetestSavage: just rename both. I think the gnome2 one is the important one though10:17
_oP2need to know if it is possible to lick his own elbows ?10:17
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simakSionide, on ubuntu  p410:17
Sionidesimak, well -no, mepis is another distro of linux. it tooks me about 2 seconds to install my printer on ubuntu though..10:17
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hypa7iasimak: which printer?  and no, you shouldn't need mepis.  mepis is a completely different distribution of linux10:18
trappist_oP2: take the silliness elsewhere kthx10:18
_oP2:)10:18
simakSionide, I have a .deb from Brother.  dpkg generates an error: Brother LPD filter not installed.10:18
pete_anewbie question:  i've got 2 default dirs under ~/.mozilla/firefox.  please advise10:18
Sionidesimak, you shouldn't even need to do that :s10:18
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simakhypa7ia, brother mfc9700 w/ a .deb driver from brother.10:18
hypa7iahmm10:19
_jasonpete_a, remove one?10:19
hypa7iasee if there's a driver in cups first10:19
Sionidesimak, go to system->admin->printing ?10:19
simakSionide, am I doing somethig wrong.  I need to dpkg it right?10:19
Sionidelook for the model number?10:19
Sionidesimak, you might not need to10:19
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pete_a_jason:  does it matter which one?10:19
hypa7iasimak: try installing it via cps first, not using the brother .deb10:19
_oP2i need to see what i have drunk10:19
hypa7iaerr cups not cps10:19
_oP2brb10:19
_jasonpete_a, have you modified one a lot?10:19
simakhypa7ia, is cps thru admin-->printers?10:19
Psi-JackHmm, what's a fair decent, preferably multi-network, at least Genutlla2 and Donkey, and BitTorrent client for Linux?10:19
Sionidethat's how i installed mine10:19
simakSionide, ubuntu is sweet.10:20
Sionidesimak, i know10:20
hypa7iasimak: cups, yeah, thqt's how you get to it10:20
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Storkactually, linux sucks10:20
pete_a_jason:  tried move one out of the way (ie. mv k*fault holdout) and it got recreated10:20
pete_a_jason: only with less stuff in it10:21
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_jasonpete_a, well move them both and let it create a new one10:21
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pete_aok10:21
hypa7iaPsi-Jack: i like bittornado for bittorrent10:21
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rixthWiMax is being rolled out in my town =D10:22
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simakSionide, I'm using 'add printer' for a network printer.10:22
Psi-Jackhypa7ia: Yeah, but I'd like a client that combines BT, G2, and eDonkey together. MLdonkey does it, but... So far, MLDonkey has been sucking to the extreme.10:22
Sionidesimak, is networked or is it local?10:22
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simakSionide, when I open the printer properties, there is no location.  SHould that be a url?10:22
_oP2some one of u masters :) know mueller thurgau, damn it! its good booz!!10:22
Sionideno10:23
hypa7iasimak: is it a local printer?10:23
simakSionide, it's 192.168.0.2 fixed ip.10:23
_jason_oP2, can you try to keep the chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please, this channel is for support10:23
simakhypa7ia, , it's 192.168.0.2 fixed ip.10:23
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Sionideright then i don't really know, ask hypa7ia he seems to know more :s10:23
TorbXi get the feeling Ubuntu is not properly using my NVidia card... GL-screensavers are slow and chunky...10:23
tim__is there a reason Ubuntu mounts NTFS as readonly?10:23
_oP2np10:24
tim__TorbX: nvidia-glx installed?10:24
Psi-Jacktim__: Yes.10:24
hypa7iatim__: because ntfs support in linux is kinda sucy10:24
hypa7iaerr sucky10:24
mitrovarrTorbX:  Probably not if you just installed, you need to get the nvidia drivers and change your Driver section to 'nvidia'10:24
soundraytim__, yes there is: read-write support is experimental.10:24
mwetim__: because you can't write to ntfs safely10:24
Storkhi, i'm having huge problems with ubuntu. i was playing quake4 and it just crashed, so i had to do a manual restart, then i re-loaded, quake4 wouldn't run, neither would xmms, so i do another manual restart and xserver doesn't run. I think i'm going to install kde and see if that helps10:24
tim__and it could potentially nuke the disk?10:24
Kyralanyone know anything about Exim?10:24
mwetim__: write support is not even enables by default10:24
simakhypa7ia, what is 'location' in printer properties, after install via cups (admin--printers--addprinter)?10:24
tim__ok, thanks10:25
TorbXtim__: mitrovarr: driver what, where? I got something nividia stuff in my applications-menu, is that it?10:25
Psi-JackKyral: Yes10:25
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tim__TorbX: run "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"10:25
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redguysimak: a description of the pronter phisical location. in a networked environment you would enter "room 13" here for example10:25
KyralPsi-Jack: mind helping me set it up to send mail through smtp.gmail.com?10:25
FXRS|GamerHello10:25
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mwetim__: thanks to microsoft all ntfs linux driver work is reverse engineered10:25
redguys/pro/pri10:25
cyphaseWhat's the difference between a guy falling from the first floor of a building and a guy falling from the tenth?10:25
tim__Torbx: then run "nvidia-glx-config enabled"10:25
FXRS|GamerI've got a question.10:26
_oP2servas hundslackl10:26
mwetim__: which makes it kinda hard10:26
simakredguy, so it doesn't mean anything in terms of funtionality?10:26
soundrayStork, if you have an X server problem, kde is unlikely to help.10:26
mitrovarrTorbX:  It's hard to say without knowing what it is.  You want the nvidia-glx package10:26
redguysimak: nope10:26
cyphaseassuming the first floor is not the ground floor10:26
TorbXtim__: allready got it..10:26
tim__mwe: i see, thanks10:26
Psi-JackKyral: Hmmm. As a smarthost, authenticated, or what?10:26
FXRS|GamerI used that "automatix" script but I didn't sudo first. Think I might have hosed anything up?10:26
simakredguy, that's a little confusing.  should be called 'printer name'10:26
KyralPsi-Jack: smarthost authenticated and TLS10:26
_jason!automatix10:26
ubotu[automatix]  messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!10:26
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mitrovarrTorbX:  Then either do what tim__ said or go into your xorg.conf and change your driver under the device section from nv to nvidia10:26
hypa7iaso no-one knows of issues with dvd+r in breezy? :(10:26
TorbXmitrovarr: ok :)10:27
Psi-JackKyral: Okay.. Now, for the kicker. Why google?10:27
mwehypa7ia: not here10:27
lowman62hypa7ia: what is the issue you are having?10:27
FXRS|Gamerok thanks10:27
KyralPsi-Jack: because I use Gmail :P10:27
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redguysimak: write a bug report :-)10:27
Kyraland my College mail is more evil ;P10:27
mitrovarrTorbX: back up your xorg.conf first in case the driver doesn't work for whatever reason10:27
TorbXmitrovarr: the driver IS nvidia!  (???)10:27
simakredguy, so my printer (at 192.168.0.2) is giving a message: Printing: Network host '192.168.0.2' is busy10:28
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KyralI just wanna be able to use Mutt to send the mail lol10:28
mitrovarrTorbX:  did you do that command tim__ said?10:28
hypa7ialowman62: dvd's which i burned on +r media in hoary aren't working in breezy10:28
Psi-JackKyral: Well, I kinda figured that,... heh. I just wonder if you were setting up some kind of personal relay, or something worse. :)10:28
simakredguy, is the network host the router or the printer?10:28
TorbXapt-get install nvidia-glx? Yes.10:28
simak!bug report10:28
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redguycyphase: the difference lies in propability of survival :-)10:28
tim__TorbX: when you boot X, do you see an nvidia logo?10:28
KyralPsi-Jack: Nope I just wanna send my mail from Mutt :P10:28
ubotusimak: Did you get hit by a windmill?10:28
mitrovarrTorbX:  no, the other command10:28
TorbXYes10:28
lowman62hypa7ia: did they work in hoary?10:28
TorbXthe other?10:28
tim__Torbx: nvidia-glx-config enabled10:28
Psi-JackKyral: Can't mutt send through authenticated remote smtp?10:28
cyphaseredguy, the guy from the first floor hits the ground then screams. the guy from the tenth floor screams then hits the ground10:28
hypa7ialowman62: yup10:29
lowman62hypa7ia: I mean did you test them10:29
KyralPsi-Jack: I dunno10:29
TorbXtim__: with sudo?10:29
mitrovarrTorbX:  "nvidia-glx-config enabled"10:29
hypa7ialowman62: yeah10:29
tim__torbx: yes10:29
Psi-JackKyral: Well, you should check there, first... :)10:29
mitrovarrTorbX:  The acceleration won't activate until you restart the X server, of course.10:29
redguysimak: depends on how the printer is connected. is it a network printer?10:29
lowman62hypa7ia: now that is a wierd one...nope cannot say I have heard of that one...I never used hoary10:29
_oP2@_jason wondering why u not just now having sex with a blonde ho thinks u are all she nneds in her world??10:29
simakredguy,  yeah, it's 192.168.0.210:29
trkoreckymitrovarr: Is there an easy way to restart the X server sans rebooting the entire machine?10:29
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_jason!ops10:29
aCiD2Hey hey hey10:29
ubotuHelp! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, johndarkhorse or nalioth.10:29
tim__torbx: and do note that some apps won't run fast -- good hardware won't fix bad coding10:29
_oP2;)10:30
Seveas_jason, ?10:30
mitrovarrtrkorecky:  I think this will work... Hit ctrl-alt-backspace10:30
aCiD2I installed (EVEEEL) Windows again, and need to get GRUB back again to boot Ubuntu - tips?10:30
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hypa7ialowman62: yeah it's weird... and my roommate and i are both running breezy so there's nothing else to test on10:30
mitrovarrtrkorecky:  Log in, then type startx10:30
_elessarhi10:30
mitrovarrDOH!10:30
redguySeveas: -> _oP210:30
_jasonSeveas, _Op was banned for flooding and returned as _Op2... doesn't shutup10:30
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mitrovarrmeant to type the whole thing as one string, but accidentally hit enter10:30
TorbXtim__: mitrovarr did that "enable" thing, now restarting X. (or the whole system, in fact, dunno how to restart just X...10:30
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X3NaCiD2 google "restore grub"10:30
Seveasugh10:30
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_oP2haha10:30
lowman62hypa7ia: both computers cannot read it? wow that is a miffer10:30
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_elessarI have a pro9blem (big for me - i'm not a noob, but nec\ver used 64-bit)10:30
mitrovarrTorbX:  You can hit ctrl-alt-backspace, then log in, then type startx10:31
_elessarwhre is agpgart friver?10:31
redguysimak: hrm, not sure what the problem might be10:31
Storkhi, i'm having huge problems with ubuntu. i was playing quake4 and it just crashed, so i had to do a manual restart, then i re-loaded, quake4 wouldn't run, neither would xmms, so i do another manual restart and xserver doesn't run. My error is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7025 . Bare in mind i can only run ubuntu in recovery mode10:31
mitrovarrTorbX:  I think that should restart it10:31
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_elessarI can't use fglrx driver without working AGP10:31
TorbXmitrovarr: oh, okay. Will do that from now on :)10:31
hypa7ialowman62: yeah.  i'm 99% sure i tested them because they were backups of a friend's stuff but the fact that i an't read them on 3 computers has me very very worried10:31
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redguysimak: what printer is it?10:31
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mitrovarrtrkorecky:  You have to log in and type startx after you hit that... sorry I didn't give you the rest of the instructions until you logged out10:31
simakredguy, brother mfc9700 through a printer server attached to the printer.10:31
KyralPsi-Jack: the Mutt site says it cannot10:31
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TorbXnow the nvidia screen popped up. That pretty neat! :)10:32
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simakredguy, do I need aspeciaal driver for a print server?10:32
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Storkhi, i'm having huge problems with ubuntu. i was playing quake4 and it just crashed, so i had to do a manual restart, then i re-loaded, quake4 wouldn't run, neither would xmms, so i do another manual restart and xserver doesn't run. My error is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7025 . Bare in mind i can only run ubuntu in recovery mode10:32
_elessari'm using althol\n 64 now and i cant find GP driver for nforce 3 (nvo\idia nor agpgart)10:32
aCiD2X3N: Sure thing10:32
TorbXmitrovarr: tim__ : SMOOTH stuff now :)10:32
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trkoreckymitrovarr: I restarted the X server, does that mean the Nvidia drivers are working?10:32
TorbXTHANK YOU :d10:32
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trkoreckymitrovarr: I followed the steps you laid out for TorbX10:32
mitrovarrtrkorecky:  Hard to say, you need to test it.  Run glxgears to see.10:32
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tim__torbx: congrats :-)10:32
hypa7ialowman62: adding insult to injury is that no search engines index the + in dvd+r10:32
lowman62hypa7ia: could be fubar10:32
TorbXtrkorecky: try a GL screensaver, youll know.10:32
mitrovarrtrkorecky:  If they FLY then it's working.10:33
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trkoreckyTorbX: mitrovarr: Alright, thanks10:33
TorbXtrkorecky:  AntSpotligth, for example.10:33
redguysimak: not sure really... But intuition tells me that you shouldn't need it10:33
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Storkhi, i'm having huge problems with ubuntu. i was playing quake4 and it just crashed, so i had to do a manual restart, then i re-loaded, quake4 wouldn't run, neither would xmms, so i do another manual restart and xserver doesn't run. My error is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7025 . Bare in mind i can only run ubuntu in recovery mode10:33
Blippemitrovarr, what should be flying?10:33
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trkoreckyTorbX: mitrovarr: Thanks, they're working10:33
mitrovarrBlippe:  glxgears will run very, very fast on a computer with accelerated graphics10:34
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BlippeIc.. i was hoping for a nice intro in the startup10:34
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TorbXI'm getting 55 fps in AntSpotlight10:34
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redguysimak: cups uses IPP natively for printing, it can use smb as well. Which service does the print server provide?10:34
soundrayStork, where does the error you pasted come from?10:34
Estel|ukok, on the route back to /home :D10:34
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Storksoundray, the blue screen that's like "x server output"10:35
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redguylooks like Seveas is doing some housekeeping :-)10:35
simakredguy, I'm using IPP -- I don't have a reason for this though, it's a default10:35
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Blue-OmegaSeveas, being generous today ai ;)10:35
KyralPsi-Jack:?10:35
soundrayStork, this is a shot in the dark, but perhaps try 'apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg-core'10:36
soundrayStork, and retry.10:36
redguysimak: I would bet on the printserver configuration then10:36
Storksoundray, shots in the dark are the best kind. i'll try that now10:37
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soundrayStork, that package contains libdri.a10:37
Estel|ukwaaah; on GNOME :(10:37
action09hi !10:37
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X3Nvirgo calc 1588/6010:38
benplautanyone know of a way to make a ubuntu live machine into an information ticker (clock, plus whatever other bulletins you put into it)10:38
X3Nwong place10:38
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SeveasX3N, :)10:39
Seveas!1588/6010:39
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X3Nthat's the internet world speed record10:39
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X3N26 mins for 838.86 gigabytes10:39
nadia007just put a new video card in my ubuntu box, now the box doesn't like the change, anyway I can have the box scan the new hardware?10:39
soundray!72 km in miles10:40
deadhouse:(10:40
ubotusoundray: Not a clue10:40
soundraypity...10:40
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Storksoundray, it asks me to insert the new cd, so i do, but it doesn't load the cd10:40
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mitrovarrStork:  You might need to manually mount the CD.  Can you browse it?10:40
soundrayStork, who's asking for what CD?10:40
Storksoundray, wait nevermin d10:40
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Storkwrong cd :p10:41
mitrovarrdoh10:41
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fearmothcan anyone show me to a link that describes installing ubuntu 5.10 with software RAID?10:41
soundray!tell fearmoth about raid10:41
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nadia007How can I have ubuntu scan for new hardware?10:42
soundrayfearmoth, got the message from ubotu?10:42
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tim__how do i map keyboard keys to shell commands?10:42
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Storksoundray, i did that command you said, then tried "sudo gdm" and it still gives me a black screen10:42
mitrovarrtim__:  You in gnome or kde?10:43
tim__mitrovarr: gnome10:43
fearmothsoundray: yeah, it pointed me to a page that said "This page has been initiated from [WWW]  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2557.html and contains some corrections to this page, as well as another experience of RAID installation on Ubuntu" though ..10:43
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soundrayStork, any error messages?10:43
mwenadia007: the system should recognize your new hardware. if not you have to load the driver10:43
Storksoundray, nope10:43
mitrovarrtim__:   Darn, I remember doing it in KDE but in gnome I don't know10:43
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MikeCamelLO - looking for some dapper help.10:43
tim__mitrovarr, thanks anyway :)10:43
fearmothcan I install ubuntu to a partition say 5-10 GB, and then set up the remaining disk space for RAID as /home after it's installed and do it with the graphical partitioner?10:44
soundrayStork, can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log pls10:44
nadia007mwe, just put a new video card, doesn't load xserver, I just need to tell it I have a matorx g45010:44
Storkthat would involve me typing it out manually10:44
MikeCamelgot an epson c80 which was working before moving to dapper, no isn't.  I've lost the set-up (d'oh), but gnome-print doesn't see it via usb.  ideas?  it's there (usbview sees it fine).10:44
Storkunless there is another way?10:44
soundrayfearmoth, not sure, but this sounds more like a LVM job.10:44
mwenadia007: In case of a new video card I would back up xorg.conf and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:45
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soundraySeveas, does your pastebin script still work?10:45
fearmothsoundray: can I combine 30GB from one drive and 40GB from another for /home with LVM ?10:45
Seveassoundray, it should10:45
mwefearmoth: yes10:45
Seveassoundray, ecept if ou downloaded it long ago10:45
Seveasthe old versions stopped working10:46
soundraySeveas, can you point Stork and me to the recent incarnation please?10:46
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nadia007mwe, exactly what I was looking for... thanks10:46
Seveassoundray, same place10:46
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soundraySeveas, now if only I could remember...10:46
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_elessarhi, I'm back. I need some information about AGP suppert in (K)ubutu64. I have nforce3 and ati card and I need working agp to run 3D acceleration (fglrx). Soryy fo spellon g- I'm celebraing passing exams :010:47
Seveassoundray, look at the bottom right of the pastebin ;)10:47
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Storkmaybe suicide is the best way10:47
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simakdo I need a driver for a print server?10:47
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soundrayThanks Seveas. Stork, did you see the msg from Seveas above?10:47
|StanG|Can anyone tell me how to get codecs for mpg and wmf so i can view them in firefox?10:47
trkoreckyWhen I go to set a screensaver, what does the "Run 'nice'" box do?10:47
trappist_elessar: only if ati supplies 64 bit versions of their fglrx drivers - I dunno if they do10:47
Storkerr, where?10:48
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mitrovarr_elessar:  http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8178/README/appendix-f.html10:48
cassimak: depends on the printer, take a look @ http://www.linuxprinting.org/ to see what you need for your printer10:48
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simakcas, whoa cool!10:48
soundrayStork, http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin is a script that will let you pastebin a file from the commandline.10:48
mitrovarr_elessar:  That might be helpful, it talks about agp support in the nvidia drivers10:48
Psi-JackDoes anyone know of any good P2P clients for Linux? Ones that support, mainly, Gnutella2, eDonkey, and BitTorrent, hopefully in one program?10:48
TorbXI would like to get my Apple bluetooth keyboard to work with my Ubuntu install. That would be sweeeeet....10:49
_elessartrappist: there are in Ubuntu, so they works (google say yes)10:49
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trappist_elessar: awesome10:49
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mitrovarrTorbX:  I know linux has bluetooth support, so it may be possible.10:49
cas|StanG|: you can install several aplications for that, xine, mplayer and totem all have firefox plugins10:49
tim__is there a way to map a keyboard media key to a shell command?10:49
|StanG|When i try to go to a website totem says i caont have the codecs to play the file..10:49
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_elessarmitrovarr: problem is that this is driver for nvidia grphics card...10:50
Estel|ukIs there any way I can access the Windows Recycle bin from a mount?10:50
TorbXmitrovarr: I've tried, just wondering if anybody has been successful.10:50
pianoboy3333hey, is anyone here good with hooking up moniters and graphics cards10:50
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jayr|StanG|: look for win32 codec in synaptic10:50
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Storksoundray, what are the arguments for that script?10:50
_elessarmitrovarr: I'm in linux for some year, please do not say me a noob.... :)10:50
soundraytim__ it's a little bit involved, but there's a mini-howto somewhere. I'll dig it up for you10:50
StokesTheoremEsteluk:  It should be in a file.10:50
cas|StanG|: for wmv support you need to take a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show10:50
mitrovarr_elessar:  Doh, I saw the nforce so I thought 'nvidia'10:50
mwejayr: it's not ther10:50
jayrPsi-Jack: amule is okay10:50
pianoboy3333hey, is anyone here good with hooking up moniters and graphics cards?10:50
aba-a10:50
soundrayStork, check the script source.10:50
mwe!w32codecs10:50
aba-opo10:50
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install10:50
tim__soundray: thanks :010:50
Storki don't understand it at all10:50
mwe!mp310:51
_elessarmitrovarr: here is the problem10:51
ubotumethinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:51
mitrovarr_elessar:  but that's your motherboard, of course, not your video card...10:51
Storkoh right10:51
|StanG|what about mpg?10:51
jayr|StanG|: its got kinda of a wierd name10:51
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StokesTheoremEsteluk:  Specifically, if you mount the drive it should be called "Recycled" in the very begiging on the drive.10:51
pianoboy3333does anyone know how to hook up a monitor with a DVI Digital cable in ubuntu10:51
jayrI still could get wvm files to play10:51
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_elessarmitrovarr: nforce drivers are for audio and net only, not for AGP10:51
pianoboy3333anyone?10:51
simonphi. anyone knows where to find detailed information about preseed (hands-off installs). d-i still asks me questions, and i would like to debug the problem10:51
jayravis and mpgs play okay10:51
casHey, thats outdated, mp3 isn't restricted anymore :)10:51
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mwe|StanG|: download the w32codecs and you'll be goog10:51
mwegood10:51
jayrthx mwe10:51
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pianoboy3333can someone help me10:51
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mwecas: it is10:52
_elessarmitrovarr: that is not my board - me friends :)10:52
mwecas: very much indeed10:52
_elessarmitrovarr: eh, I getting drunk :_P10:52
bettong_BOFHanyone know of a good office inventory app for ubuntu?10:52
trappistpianoboy3333: you plug it into the dvi connector on your video card10:52
soundraytim__, it's http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12159.html -- just not responding here right now...10:52
sethkpianoboy3333, it is no different than hooking up a monitor with a vga cable10:52
mwecas: I know the released a decoder10:52
pianoboy3333ok10:52
tim__soundray: thanks :)10:52
pianoboy3333if you say so10:52
fearmothwhat should I name my volume group when setting up LVM? does it matter? any suggestions? i've never done this before.10:52
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mwecas: however mp3 is _not_ free at all10:52
casmwe: you're right, it is still restricted format10:52
_elessarmitrovarr: simply - I need driver AGP driver for ATG6410:52
cello_raspwhenever i try "gzip -d *.zip", it returns blah.zip: unknown suffix -- ignored. how should i unzip multiple zip files?10:53
pianoboy3333sethk: i had to switch to vga for installing ubuntu tho10:53
jayrany one have a easy to follow tutorial on how to configure a dual head card for a wide screen?10:53
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simonpmore specifically, it always ask for mirror/country and mirror/http/hostname even though it's specified in the preseed file10:53
trappistjayr: what card10:53
mitrovarr_elessar:  Are you sure you need drivers to make it work?  I mean, most people don't even have to install special drivers for their motherboards are all10:53
casjayr: there are some nice tutorials on ubuntu-forums10:53
mitrovarrat all, not are all10:53
|StanG|im not seeing the codec in sympatic10:53
bettong_BOFHso does anyone know of a good office inventory app for ubuntu?10:54
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mwe|StanG|: it's not there10:54
|StanG|oh10:54
mwe!tell |StanG| about w32codecs10:54
|StanG|someone said it was10:54
mwe|StanG|: read /msg from ubotu10:54
_jasoncello_rasp, try gunzip file1 file2, I think I've used that10:54
mwe|StanG|: well that's wrong10:54
_elessar(EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_EBUSY"10:54
_elessar(EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP10:54
_elessarmitrovarr: look10:54
jayrsorry |StanG| it was me. I appologize10:54
mwe|StanG|: w32codecs are not in the official repos10:54
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jayrtrappist: it an Nvidia base card10:55
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_elessarmitrovarr: I'm not a noob - I know how to reed /ver/log etc...10:55
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mitrovarr_elessar:  Sorry then, I only jumped in because I misread your message and thought you were working with nvidia stuff.  I don't know anything about ati hardware.10:56
_elessarmitrovarr: NP10:56
soundrayjayr, have you found /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/ yet? There are Readmes in there.10:56
doogluscello_rasp: you should do it like this:    for i in *.zip; do gunzip "$i"; done10:56
paladinewwhat is the easiest program to use on ubuntu 5.10 to use for http web serving ??10:56
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C_J_ProIs there anyway to output the information of a monitor (manufacturer, model number, etc.) via a command line?10:57
mwepaladinew: apache10:57
doogluspaladinew: apache10:57
_elessarmitrovarr: I have nfiorce2 and nvidia card now, but my friend haves ATi with nfirce3 and I wat to install there Kubuntu10:57
paladinewthats what I figured, I cant dl it using add applications, do I have to do apt-get ?10:57
cello_raspthanks dooglus10:57
mitrovarr_elessar:  I did find a page that talks about the problem:  http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.8.25.html10:57
soundrayC_J_Pro, try ddcprobe10:57
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mweapokryphos: sudo apt-get install apache210:57
Storksoundray, how do i use the script? i can't figure it out :|10:57
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StokesTheoremWhat is the heir for the command "mkinitrd"?10:58
CarinArrwhat's up with ubuntuforums10:58
doogluscello_rasp: if you want to do it for all zip files in subdirectories, too, you can:    find . -type f -name '*.zip' | while read x; do gunzip "$x"; done10:58
mwepaladinew: sudo apt-get install apache210:58
paladinewapache2 ?  whats the 2 for10:58
fearmothsorry for all the dumb questions; for making partitions if i'm setting up a server w/80GB hard drive, what partitions should I make and how big should they be?10:58
mwepaladinew: version 210:58
soundrayStork, give my two min10:58
mwepaladinew: that's the one ubuntu uses10:58
_elessarmitrovarr: yes, i know that U know - google is your friend ;)) but problem is with AGp10:58
paladinewgotchya10:58
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cello_raspdooglus: you made my day.10:58
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doogluscello_rasp: it's worth remembering those 2 as templates.  they come in very handy for operating on lots of files10:59
paladinewalright, so its done installing, how do I configure it, I dont see it in the menus10:59
bettong_BOFHso does anyone know?10:59
mwe_elessar: using fglrx?11:00
CarinArri'm having some really weird problems with my nvidia driver.. basically i need to run more recent drivers than the ones available through synaptic, so i uninstalled the synaptic ones and installed the latest drivers from nvidia.. Now it works perfectly, until I reboot.. after I reboot, I get the nvidia flash screen and can log in as normal, but if i try to run nvidia-settings or any software that uses opengl, i get segmentation faults11:00
CarinArrif i reinstall the driver it works fine, until i reboot.. etc11:00
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mitrovarr_elessar:  Well, I don't know then.  Hopefully you can find someone with more skill to help you.11:00
dooglusbettong_BOFH: what would you want it to do, this office inventory program?11:00
paladinewmwe: how do I configure it, I dont see it in the menus11:01
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mwe_elessar: I think you could get agp problems if you set  "UseInternalAGPGART" "yes"11:01
bettong_BOFHjust keep track of the clock parts and movements i have in stock and tell me what clock belongs to who11:01
soundrayStork, 'chmod 755 pastebin ; cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | ./pastebin'11:01
mwepaladinew: how you configure apache?11:01
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CarinArri tried to stop gdm, and do "startx -- -verbose 5 -logverbose 5", and then it just hangs on a half black half white screen and the log stops at (II) Initializing extension GLX11:01
TorbXDarn, i Cant get *.ram files to play with totem or mplayer, or anything, even if I have done what it says here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:01
bettong_BOFHif i can't find someting to do that then just keeping track of parts and movements will suffice11:01
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doogluspaladinew: you edit /etc/apache2/httpd.conf11:01
paladinewmwe: yes, it's installed, but I dont see anywhere to set it up11:01
action09i'm a little bit confused on mails on Breezy: i use evolution + installed spamassassin (spamc/spamd) there's postfix too and procmail, how can i understand the whole mail chain ? Internet -> smtp -> evolution -> procmail( call sa ) and filter , but where is it told in evolution to use spamc or spamassassin or/and to use razor/pyzor/dcc ..etc (in config files !)  :)11:01
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mwepaladinew: you need to read some of the documentation. sorry you have edit the config files by hand11:02
action09if anyone has  a good link please :)11:02
paladinewmwe: ok11:02
bettong_BOFHthats all i really need11:02
CarinArranyone who's any good with nvidia problems?11:02
cello_raspoh dear: on making a disk image i get: Could not run sub process: Failed to execute child process "cdrdao"11:02
casCarinArr: did you installed the right kernelheaders for your current kernel11:02
cello_raspbol ita11:02
Storksoundray, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/703311:02
cello_raspsorry for bold11:02
TorbX*.ram files anybody? real Media-stuff?11:02
casCarinArr: You need someone who's good with solutions not problems ;)11:02
cello_raspTorbX: mplayer handles them good11:03
CarinArrcas, yeah, the kernel module compiles absolutely fine11:03
cello_raspoh11:03
theconartistomfgomfg11:03
doogluscello_rasp: install package 'cdrdao" by running "sudo apt-get install cdrdao" in a terminal11:03
mitrovarrcello_rasp:  Do you have cdrdao installed on your machine?  I'm not sure it's installed by default.11:03
JDigitalHello, all. I'm using a boot CD instead of my usual install. Does anyone know why my linux install would be active?11:03
theconartisti just accidentally delete everything in my home folder :/11:03
casCarinArr: can you find something in your xorg logs?11:03
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cello_raspi had cdrdao before...11:03
theconartistand not send to trash11:03
CarinArrheh cas, true that, was posting in that nvidia thread on ubuntuforums and someone was trying to help out, but i can't get on ubuntuforums.org at all now11:03
theconartistdelete :/11:03
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CarinArrcas, only "(II) Initializing extension GLX11:03
JDigitaloops11:03
CarinArrcas, then it dies11:03
bettong_BOFHso anyone have any idea what app would help me?11:03
JDigitalI mean, does anyone know why my swap partition is active11:04
TorbXcello_rasp: not here...11:04
dooglustheconartist: unfortunately it's very hard, if possible at all, to undelete in Linux11:04
_elessarmwe: "UseInternalAGPGART" in xorg.conf? I found this but I forgot wher .... i non I'm after some beers :-P so wher to put this in in xorg/.comf? I'm experinced, so say sewcti etc... sorry for mistakeces ;)11:04
mweat least several things in k3b are broken by default because of missing stuff like cdrdao11:04
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JDigitalI can't resize my partitions because it's active11:04
mitrovarrcello_rasp:  It's easy enough to tell if you still have it, see if you can run the command in a terminal11:04
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theconartistdooglus, thats why i am whining :/11:04
theconartist6 gigs down the tube11:04
soundrayStork, I'm afraid this one is beyond me. Especially since you had it working before.11:04
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dooglustheconartist: you could do something like alias "rm" to "rm -i" in your .bashrc.  that's what I do11:04
CarinArrcas, but it's weird because straight upon rebooting the driver seems to load fine, no errors in the logs or anything, and the  nvidia splash screen is all there and fine11:04
dooglustheconartist: then at least it will check with you before deleting stuff11:04
Storksoundray, is this a reformat kind of thing?11:04
warpforgeI don't understand why my Evolution spam filtering isn't working. It's never worked for me before, either.11:04
CarinArrit's only when i try to run anything that uses it that it seems to go kaboom11:04
C-O-L-Ta powerfull graphic suite for linux?????11:05
bettong_BOFHdooglus: any ideas?11:05
theconartistdooglus, it did ask me11:05
TorbXcello_rasp: "Couldnt resolve name for AF_INET6: <the url>11:05
theconartisti accidentally pressed yes11:05
soundrayStork, perhaps you can find something on the web using keywords from the line containing Symbol __glXgetActiveScreen unresolved.11:05
dooglusbettong_BOFH: no, sorry.11:05
mitrovarrcello_rasp:  Also, some programs have to be told where cdrdao is, I think I had to configure the location in to K3B11:05
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bettong_BOFHok thanx11:05
theconartisti was clearing ou my trash11:05
JDigitalC-O-L-T, use The GIMP11:05
theconartistsomehow it all got in the trash11:05
casCarinArr: maybe some old nvidia driver is also loading11:05
theconartisthow, i dont know11:05
mweC-O-L-T: gimp is the most "powerful" one I think11:05
dooglustheconartist: "rm -i" would ask for every single file11:05
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C-O-L-TJDigital: something like Adobe Creative Suite 211:05
_elessarmwe: I'm using athlon 64 (in fact my friend-so even more important to show that-Linux really works) anf nforce311:05
CarinArrcas, no.. there's no indication it is anywhere11:05
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warpforgeCOLT: Try The GIMP + Scribus11:06
casCarinArr: try removing every nvidia thingy before installing the new one11:06
mwe_elessar: ubuntu 64bit then or 32bit ?11:06
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warpforgeCOLT: But it's nothing compared to CS211:06
casCarinArr: also /etc/init.d/nvidia-*11:06
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CarinArrcas, done it.. no difference11:06
casweird11:06
rixthGIMP & Photoshop are totally different. GImp is more for web graphics, photoshop more for photos11:06
SweetestSavagemwe, it didn't work. Now my partition has errors and.. I can't even mount properly to the second hard drive when I try to reinstall Ubuntu.. I don't know what to do.11:06
C-O-L-Twarpforge: there is no a powerfull tool for linux?11:07
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JDigitalThey are similar though11:07
rixthC-O-L-T, GIMP LIKE SOMEONE SAID11:07
dooglusthere's something called "gimpshop" which makes the gimp more like photoshop11:07
rixthIts your best bet11:07
mwephotoshop is like totally more powerful than gimp11:07
Sionideheh http://slike.lublana.com/pics/getmms2309.jpeg accidental spillage of water on the floor11:07
_elessarmwe:  64bit of corse :) 32 bit is working on my desktop ;))11:07
cello_raspdooglus: i don't know why but i still get "suffix ignored" with "find . -type f -name '*.zip' | while read x; do gunzip "$x"; done"11:07
JDigitalHow do I unmount my swapfile partition11:07
JDigitalgparted won't let me11:07
JDigitalsince it is "Active"11:07
cello_raspmwe I agree, best to run it under wine.11:07
JDigitalwhich is odd because I booted from a boot CD11:07
mweSweetestSavage: sorry what was the problem?11:07
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doogluscello_rasp: try this:   find . -type f -name '*.zip'  | while read x; do echo gunzip $x; gunzip "$x"; done11:08
mwecello_rasp: yeah if you can do with version 7. I can't I need CS211:08
cello_raspgimp is great but the interface in gimpshop is not much better.11:08
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doogluscello_rasp: then you'll see the gunzip commands printed before they're run, and have more idea of what's going wrong.11:08
SweetestSavagemwe, the X server crashing, GNOME behaving oddly.. well, I tried restarting and fsck found errors.. and couldn't fix them. Something about INODE or something rather.. and yeah, when I tried reinstalling Ubuntu it couldn't successfully mount the second hard-drive's partition.11:08
Storksoundray, this site: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-November/105641.html seems to think i should remover the line "Load "dri"" from my xorg.conf11:08
mwecello_rasp: or is it even 4.7 the latest version that works in wine. not sure11:08
mwecello_rasp: I run it in wmware11:09
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mwevmware*11:09
soundrayStork, worth a try11:09
cello_raspdooglus: thanks, very much noted11:09
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doogluscello_rasp: try it, and paste the line that appears just before the error message11:09
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Storksoundray, darn, no luck11:09
mweJDigital: swapoff11:09
mitrovarrSweetestSavage:  Are you sture there isn't something physical wrong with the hard drive?  Or maybe the partition table is damaged.11:10
cello_raspsame old "unknown suffix" problem. i think it has to do with the gunzip program itself? i have all the restricted formats packages installed..11:10
doogluscello_rasp: I'm being an idiot...  gunzip isn't for unzipped .zip files - it's for uncompressing .gz files.  that's your problem!11:10
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cello_raspding11:10
cello_rasphehehe11:10
warpforgeIs ubuntuforums.org down?11:10
SweetestSavagemitrovarr, it was working perfectly fine before, I'm on a Live CD and I can access the partitions just fine.11:10
Sionideseems to be iffy for me warpforge11:10
ssamwarpforge, down for me11:10
cello_raspwarpforge: yeah11:11
soundrayStork, all this trouble just to run Quake... Can you not switch to planetpenguin-racer? :)11:11
DayTurnsNightwarpforge, yeah i guess it is11:11
mwewarpforge: seems down11:11
phiber_optichow can i check if my webcam is working?11:11
JDigitalmwe++11:11
Storksoundray, it's not just quakem the whole xserver wont run :|11:11
JDigitalmwe: Thanks, that did the job! :)11:11
cello_rasphmmm now what should i use for uncompressing zip files argh11:11
ssamwarpforge, they seemed to crumble away in the last half hour11:11
mweJDigital: great11:11
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mitrovarrSweetestSavage:  Could it be a DMA error?  LiveCDs normally turn it off.11:11
_jasoncello_rasp, unzip11:11
cello_raspnooo11:11
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cello_raspheh11:12
doogluscello_rasp: find -type f -name '*.zip' | while read x; do unzip "$x"; done11:12
SweetestSavagemitrovarr, I'm not sure. How would I find out?11:12
soundrayStork, I know. But you had it running, and Quake crashed and got you into this trouble, didn't it?11:12
mitrovarrSweetestSavaga:  Well, you could try to run the livecd with DMA on and see if that works.  It's probably a cheatcode.11:12
mwedooglus: or mark all the files in konqueror, right click, unzip11:12
cello_raspyou know, you guys can be disturbingly helpful at times11:12
Storksoundray, well i don't think it was quake, because the sound went a little wierd before that11:13
mwedooglus: or find -typf -name "*.zip" -exec unzip {} \;11:13
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mwedooglus: :)11:13
mitrovarrSweetestSavage:  Alternately, most livecds have an option to enable it.  Which one are you using?11:13
_jasoncello_rasp, apparently I have no clue what you are trying to do :P11:13
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Storksoundray, it's a shame because i was really far, i had my grenade launcher out and was blasing strogg..11:13
SweetestSavagemitrovarr, AMD6411:13
SweetestSavageBreezy Badger of course11:13
cello_raspthat makes two of us :D11:13
mitrovarrSweetestSavage:  I meant which livecd.  Do you mean you're using ubuntu livecd?11:13
phiber_opticcan somebody hel me please?11:13
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JDigitalUh-oh, I'm having a different problem now with gparted.11:14
JDigitalI can't seem to expand this partition.11:14
mwetoo bad it's hard to change a laptop keyboard :|11:14
StokesTheoremEarlier I asked about the command mkinitrd...  I figured it out.  The command is obtained via downloading a package.  Probably one of the many found via the search "initrd" in Synaptic.11:14
dooglusmwe: find -exec is ok, but not as flexible as the | while read thing.11:14
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SweetestSavagemitrovarr, yes11:14
JDigitalI have a FAT32 partition, then an Extended partition which contains an ext2 partition and a linux-swap partition.11:14
mwedooglus: for just one command it's fine I think11:14
soundrayStork, I would try a couple more web searches. You can also pose the question here again (and I'll keep out this time). If all else fails, do a reinstall. Sorry I've run out of better recommendations.11:15
casphiber_optic: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html11:15
dooglusmwe: for instance, if zou wanted to rename all .MP3 files to .mp3 files, I don't think find -exec could do it11:15
JDigitalBut even if I shrink the fat32, I can't resize the extended partition to the left to take up the space11:15
Storkit's alright. thanks for the help so far11:15
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Storksoundray, although, if i can't get it working then i give up with linux, and it's back to gaming for me11:15
captainredbeardis there a gnome-clipboard-daemon for breexy?11:15
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soundraymwe, I changed mine on an Acer laptop. It was easy, if somewhat pricey (80 Euros)11:15
dooglusstupid Windows XP keeps switching the keyboard from English to Czech!11:15
StokesTheoremquestion - I'm trying to run a script which has 'uname -r' (the ' is pat of the command!) at the end of one of them, and it is giving me trouble.  Any idea what that generally does?11:15
mwedooglus: right11:15
mitrovarrSweetestSavage:  Oh, I don't know anything about ubuntu livecd.  I'll see if I can't look it up.11:15
_jasondooglus, mwe, so is that just to unzip recursively basically?11:15
action09rah11:15
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acid2Hey, I use a widescreen monitor with a max res of 1440x900, but gnome max'es too 1280x76811:16
acid2Any ideas?11:16
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Aveshau11:16
dooglusStokesTheorem: it's probably ` not ', right?11:16
mwe_jason: yeah11:16
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dooglusStokesTheorem: backticks (`) run the command that's between them, and substitute the output of the command into the surrounding text.11:16
casacid2: did you looked at your xorg.conf?11:16
mwe!tell acid2 about fixres11:16
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dooglusStokesTheorem: so for instance: echo the date is `date` right now11:16
soundrayStork, many people will say that Linux isn't such a great gaming platform anyway. It has other benefits of course, but if gaming is your priority, there aren't that many options.11:16
mweacid2: see /msg from ubotu11:17
Aveshadoes anyone know if the ubuntu forums are down right now?11:17
acid2mwe: ta11:17
mweAvesha: yes they are11:17
acid2cas: Yea, just edited it11:17
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acid2told it to support 1440x90011:17
dooglusStokesTheorem: you can also use $(date) instead of `date`, which is clearer IMO, and also nests11:17
AveshaI picked a hell of a day to reinstall then :(11:17
casacid2: and restarted gdm?11:17
mweAvesha: I can't connect at least11:17
acid2cas: Yup11:17
acid2(Was 1024x768 before)11:17
mweAvesha: irc and wiki is up11:17
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casacid2: and it isn't visible in system->preferences->resolution?11:18
Storksoundray, i turned to linux in the start because it was more interesting, fun, stable, plus windows kept crashing11:18
matthewjameshye, can i put everything in 1 partitian?11:18
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StokesTheoremdoolus:  You're right, it is a `.  But I copy-pasted, so it wasn't a typing error.11:18
fsanchohi all11:18
mweacid2: you need to go over the wiki11:18
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fsanchoi have a strange problem with breezy11:18
mitrovarrSweetestSavage:  Alternately, it could be that your hard drive is partially failed, or some files are corrupted without the whole thing being ruined.  Just because you can access a drive and get files off of it doesn't mean that it necessarily works completely or can be booted from.11:18
fsanchoi have installed in a IBM thinkpad 600X11:18
phiber_opticcan someone help me, my webcam is detected on the usb, but when I use camorama it says could not connect to video device /dev/video011:18
dooglusLinux would be great if it was more popular - then it would get better support for games, hardware, and pretty much everything.11:18
matthewjameshye, can i put everything in 1 partitian?11:18
JDigitalLinux isn't good for gaming. If you want to game, go dual-boot Windows/Linux11:18
dooglusas it is, we're kind of lagging behind Windows in some ways.11:18
fsanchoeverything seems to work ok11:18
SweetestSavagemitrovarr, alright, well the only way would be to reformat it completely, correct?11:18
soundrayStork, if you paid money for Quake, you could ask the manufacturer for support.11:18
mweacid2: you need to fill in the HorizSync and VertRefresh11:18
StokesTheoremdooglus:  Good call though.  I'm particularly glad I wasn't hand-typing all of it.11:19
JDigitalmatthewjames, depends what you mean by everything11:19
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mitrovarrSweetestSavage:  I don't know if I'd go that far, but I'd definately back up everything on the drive you want RIGHT AWAY11:19
matthewjameseverything to run ubunu11:19
fsanchobut i can't get any sound using alsa drivers, but if i use alsa's OSS emulation it works11:19
SweetestSavagemitrovarr, already done11:19
JDigitalyeah11:19
hawkingI want to change may keyboard layout but I can't ... at the boot screen I get this error : "KDSETKEYCODE : Invalid argument , failed to set scancode 5d to keycode 256 , failed to set scancode aa to keycode 256 , failed to set scancode ef to keycode 256 ... how can i fix this? any ideas?11:19
offtownhello11:19
casphiber_optic: could be a permission problem, can you paste the output of `ls -l /dev/video0`?11:19
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mitrovarrSweetestSavage:  is it a dual boot drive?11:19
mwehawking: that's a non harmful ubuntu bug11:19
Storksoundray, i don't think they officially support it natively on linux11:20
soundraydooglus, I think Linux is popular enough to warrant broad support on economical grounds. I suspect that it is being suppressed.11:20
SweetestSavagemitrovarr, no, Linux-only11:20
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matthewjamescan i make 1 partitian for everything to run ubuntu?11:20
captainredbeardis there a gnome-clipboard-daemon for breezy?11:20
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mitrovarrSweetestSavage:  I was going to suggest booting off the other partition to see if it would work, which would tell us if it was hardware-failed or just a messed up file system11:20
soundraydooglus, not in a conspiracy theory sense, but by marketing types who don't know any better.11:20
dooglussoundray: at least it's still legal to use it.11:20
hawkingmve : non harmful ? well my layout doesn't work11:20
casmatthewjames: you need a separate swap disk11:20
JDigitalsoundray, I think manufacturers are reluctant to support Linux because it's a very small fraction of the desktop market11:20
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offtownhow can I install yahoo messenger?11:20
SweetestSavagemitrovarr, yeah.. I know. I would have done that if the option was available11:20
mitrovarrSweetestSavage:  I don't know if it's a hard drive problem for sure, so you might want someone else to look over the problem before you do anything drastic, I just thought it was a possibility.11:20
matthewjamesk, in what size?11:20
JDigitalofftown, the Linux equivalent is GAIM11:20
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soundrayJDigital, that is precisely the opposite of the point I'm arguing.11:21
phiber_opticluis@luis:~$ ls -l /dev/video011:21
phiber_opticls: /dev/video0: No such file or directory11:21
mwehawking: ubuntu scripts are broken as they try to use setkeycodes exx 256 and 255 is the highest allowed number11:21
SweetestSavagemitrovarr, I don't mind reformatting at all, if it'll fix it that is.11:21
casmatthewjames: what you want, some ppl like the rule twice your memory11:21
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JDigitalsoundray, you think Microsoft or someone is paying people not to support Linux?11:21
hawkingmwe : so my problem doesn't have to do anything with this as it seems right?11:21
matthewjameswhat size parts should i have for main and swap?11:21
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mwehawking: I don't think so11:21
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Johnny0Hello all11:21
soundrayJDigital, I think if you take a balanced look at the market, you will find plenty of commercial potential for Linux products.11:21
hawkingmwe : thanks11:21
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mitrovarrSweetestSavage:  It might, if it's a file system problem it should fix it for sure.  But if it's a screwed up hard drive, it won't of course, since no fix is possible.11:21
dooglushawking: you should search on http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ to see if anyone else has reported the bug, and if not, report it yourself.  that's how things get fixed.11:21
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offtowncan you show me tthe procedure\11:22
Johnny0Trying to install crossover office - what do I use to open a .sh file type ?11:22
matthewjameswhat size parts should i have for main and swap?11:22
SweetestSavagemitrovarr, yea, I know. I know for a fact the hard drive isn't screwed up.11:22
hawkingdooglus : oh yeah I'll do that11:22
dooglusJohnny0: use "bash <file.sh>"11:22
JDigitalBalanced, schmalanced. Linux is still a little frayed around the edges when it comes to the desktop.11:22
soundrayJDigital, no, I don't think they are as obvious at this point.11:22
casJohnny0: sh ;)11:22
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dooglusthe thing I find most annoying about Linux's desktop is that it has 2 separate clipboards.11:22
mitrovarrSweetestSavage:  I guess reformatting could help.  I wish I could fix the specific problem, but if fsck refuses to fix it and the installer can't even see the partition it's probably unsurvivable.11:22
matthewjameswhat size partitians should i have for main and swap?11:22
cayadoes someone know a bittorrent client like azureus for gnome? azureus makes gnome run pretty slow ...11:22
JDigitaldooglus, that's one problem I have with it, too11:23
flankkEnglish forums down?11:23
dooglusI use xmrxt as a terminal.  if I copy stuff from there, and paste into firefox, I don't get what I copied.  I get something older11:23
mitrovarrI think linux does ok on the desktop if you work on it enough.11:23
JDigitalIf you quit a program you lose its clipboard11:23
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SweetestSavagemitrovarr, yep, oh well. I didn't have a whole lot on the partitions anyways. Reformatting isn't a big deal.11:23
dell500what app do you use for an ipod? gtkpod seems to mess up a lot11:23
Johnny0lol11:23
flooCan anyone tell me how to make minimized windows appear on the panel?  Whenever I minimize a window it just dissapaears and there's no button to vclick on the panel to let me maximise it.  Any ideas?11:23
mitrovarrthe real problem I see for mass adoption is not that it is hard to use, but that it's hard to configure.11:23
JDigitalGlobal clipboard is a luxury we've come to expect11:23
soundrayJDigital, may be so. But the kind of person who chooses Linux is on average someone well worth selling stuff to.11:23
matthewjameswhat size partitians should i have for main and swap?11:23
dooglusI find that I have to copy from xmrvt, paste into Emacs, then copy from Emacs and paste into firefox.  that works every time, but it's a pain!11:23
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JDigitalsoundray, I agree11:23
mitrovarrLike the average windows power-user who installs programs and drivers with impunity might have a hard time doing the same on linux11:23
cayadell: i use gnupod11:23
soundrayJDigital, the potential of this market is being underestimated in a serious way.11:23
JDigitalmitrovarr, yeah11:23
Storkeurgh this is awful11:24
phiber_opticbut when I do lusus i guet Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:000011:24
phiber_opticBus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:000011:24
phiber_opticBus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:000011:24
phiber_opticBus 001 Device 003: ID 043e:8585 LG Electronics USA, Inc. LPC-UC35 Webcam11:24
Stork!tell phiber_optic about pastebin11:24
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mitrovarrsoundray:  I think it hurts linux support for games/software that almost all linux users dual boot and will not avoid buying something because of windows-only support.11:24
matthewjameswhat size partitians should i have for main and swap?11:24
mwehawking: is your layout broken in X or the console?11:24
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cayadoes someone know a bittorrent client like azureus for gnome? azureus makes gnome run pretty slow ...11:24
phiber_opticthanx11:24
dell500caya, i tried getting that, no apt-get11:24
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doogluscaya: azureus is about the best you'll find for ubuntu11:25
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matthewjameswhat size partitians should i have for main and swap?11:25
JDigitalsoundray, Linux desktop is still maybe only 1% of the desktop market.11:25
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JDigitalbrrt11:25
mitrovarrLInux desktops can work surprising well for non-power users, though11:25
ubuntuwaz up shiznits?11:25
doogluscaya: none of the other clients use dht very well, so you tend not to find enough peers to share with.11:25
brrrt?11:25
ssammatthewjames, swap about double the size of your ram11:25
mitrovarrI switched my mom's computer over to linux and she hardly noticed, except for a few icons moving around and the computer suddenly speeding up dramatically.11:25
soundraymitrovarr, I agree. Still, if you make a selling point of your product having free drivers, you're tapping into vast commercial potential.11:25
matthewjamesk11:25
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JDigitalLinux, in my experience, is a mixture of "oh wow, this is so much better than Windows" and "ugh, why can't this be as straightforward as it is in Windows"11:25
matthewjameswhat bout main?11:25
soundrayJDigital, that's only if you count dual-boot machines as Windows PCs.11:26
casphiber_optic: see in your dmesg if you can fidn out what file in your dev is your webcam. (I never used one so I dunno, but some usb/firewire are detected as disks and so have wrong permissions)11:26
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casphiber_optic: also be sure your user is in the right groups11:26
matthewjamesssam, what about for main part?11:26
ssammatthewjames, all the rest of your space11:26
JDigitalThe kind of people who can make Linux simpler to use are the kind of people who can use it just fine.11:26
mitrovarrsoundray, that's true of hardware.  But I think linux makes it harder for itself by having lukewarm acceptance for non-free, binary only drivers.  I know a lot of companies are paranoid with their stuff and don't want the specs getting out.11:26
cyberoieeeeeeee11:26
brrrthi all11:26
matthewjamescant11:26
mweJDigital: yeah. and "ARGHH why can't I play my favorite game in Linux"11:26
matthewjamesi want windows space still;11:26
dooglusssam: why do people always suggest that the more RAM you have, the more swap you'll need?  surely it works the other way around.  If I had 100Gb of RAM I wouldn't need any swap at all11:26
ssammatthewjames, as much as you have free11:26
phiber_opticsorry cas, but how do I do that11:27
matthewjamesk, is 15 gb good?11:27
phiber_opticim basically new to linux11:27
cayadell: try apt-cache search gnupod11:27
brrrthow do make the nvidia 8178 driver install permanent?11:27
JDigitalDespite what people say, Linux is really only good if you're technically minded or have technically minded support available.11:27
mitrovarrmwe:  That is true.  I wish Cedega wasn't such a annoying, subscription-based thing.11:27
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cyberhi how are you???11:27
flankkEnglish forums down?11:27
matthewjamesssam, 15 GB good?11:27
ssamdooglus, so we don't have to change what we say every few years11:27
soundrayJDigital, s/Linux/Windows and your statement is still true.11:27
brrrtno linux is for noobs ;)11:27
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ssammatthewjames, that is plenty :-)11:27
JDigitalI hear the latest WINE actually has better support for DirectX than Cedega11:27
matthewjamesk, and is there a partitianer in installer?11:27
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dell500caya, is it console based?11:27
mitrovarrJDigital, windows can get pretty ugly when people aren't technically minded or have technically minded support available too.11:28
JDigitalsoundray, haha, it's true11:28
flankkbrrrt, Different distros are designed for different audiences.11:28
JDigitalbut Linux is even less newbie-friendly11:28
soundraymitrovarr, I agree -- but I think vendors are just silly with that secrecy stuff.11:28
JDigitalat least in some ways11:28
cayadell: yepp but it works really good11:28
bensodeLooks like the ubuntu forums are down?11:28
brrrtflankk: sure11:28
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ssamdooglus, apparently even if you have loads of ram a bit of swap is good11:28
dell500caya, how do you use it? or link maybe?11:28
GTroyJDigital: my roommate screws up windows so bad, I have to put him on linux11:28
JDigitalin some ways Linux is much much better11:28
mitrovarrsoundray, I agree.  Like we're going to steal their precious, precious winprinter/winmodem drivers.11:28
matthewjamesdoes the installer have a parter?11:28
soundraymitrovarr, people who think like that should be in espionage, not hardware development.11:28
mwedooglus: there is some sanitity to the swap should be 2xRAM for moderate ram sizes11:28
casphiber_optic: can your paste your dmesg on pastebin? http://pastebin.com/11:28
mitrovarrlol11:28
dell500JDigital: i agree, games are good on winbloze though11:28
sskkI read that if I install the fglrx-control package I will have a "control panel" for adjusting my graphics driver. I've installed it now, but uhm... where do I find this panel?11:28
moike_Hey is the Ubuntu PPC channel, #ubuntu-ppc?11:28
cayadell: link: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnupod/gnupod.html11:28
flooI can't get buttons to appear on my panel when i minimize.  any ideas?11:28
matthewjamesdoes the installer have a parter?11:29
dooglusmwe: if I only had 64Mb of RAM, I'd want more than 2x that in swap11:29
JDigitalIn Windows it was often easy for me to sort out problems. In Linux I have to go on IRC and ask someone, and they'll tell me "oh just use this obscurely-named command line"11:29
phiber_opticsure11:29
mitrovarrsoundray, the stupid thing is that if they'd just publish their damn specs half the time they'd get their drivers made for free11:29
dooglusmatthewjames: it does11:29
mwedooglus: you wouldn't run ubuntu with 64mb RAM11:29
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matthewjamesk, and can it delete em to?11:29
dooglusmwe: I could, I think11:29
mwedooglus: I doubnt it11:29
mwedoubt*11:29
mitrovarrJDigital, that's true.  I think ubuntu needs to include more slightly non-free things to be more usable, like mp3 codecs and nvidia/ati drivers.11:29
JDigitalWhat I think Linux needs is  a really good user manual11:30
JDigitala paper one11:30
soundrayJDigital, you've been lucky with your Windows problems then. The thing is, if you're stuck in Windows, you're really stuck.11:30
dooglusmwe: I'd probably have to use something other than GNOME, but if I just wanted it to serve web pages, 64Mb would be enough11:30
mwedooglus: if you need to swap more than twice you physical ram your system would be crawling11:30
matthewjamesdooglus, can it delete parts also?11:30
casJDigital: Linux is harder in the begin, but once you understand the basics you'll almost understand everything you need to know11:30
GTroycas: very true11:30
mitrovarrJDigital, I dunno about that.  Most people with the wit to use a manual have the wit to use google.11:30
JDigitalcas: I agree, it just has a steeper learning curve11:30
dooglusmatthewjames: I believe so.  It uses gparted I think, or something like that.11:30
mwedooglus: I'm talking about running X11:30
phiber_opticcas I already put it11:30
ssamdooglus, if you were seriously running a system with 64mb of ram i would expect that you were running apps that need about that much ram11:30
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phiber_opticbut I dont really understand anything11:30
dell500caya, looks pretty sweet and self-explanitory :)11:30
matthewjamesk, an is ot formatted automaticly?11:30
mwedooglus: ie a desktop environment11:30
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turbofiskhowdi11:31
casphiber_optic: found it11:31
mitrovarrJDigital I think linux just needs more good tools.  Like I had to hand-configure my xorg.conf to do dual-monitors.  I shouldn't have to do that.11:31
GTroyJDigital: I found linux waaaay easier to use/configure than windows11:31
ssamdooglus, so adding a gig of swap would be silly11:31
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casphiber_optic: i mean the message :)11:31
soundrayJDigital, the big advantage in Linux is discoverability. That 'obscure' command you read on IRC will be second-nature for you tomorrow.11:31
WildTangentforums down?11:31
mwedooglus: I think even fluxbox would crawl with 64MB ram and you should think about running firefox11:31
matthewjamesdooglus, does it formatt automatticly/11:31
JDigitalmitrovarr, Yeah, that's one of the kind of thing that Windows does more straightforwardly.11:31
dooglusssam: it depends.  if I'm only going to use one app at a time, but keep the others running (and swapped out) that's fine11:31
phiber_opticnice :)11:31
dooglusmatthewjames: yes11:31
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matthewjamesk11:31
ssamdooglus, if you had 4gb of ram then you are probably doing big work and could do with a few gb of swap11:31
matthewjamesty for u help11:31
mitrovarrJDigital I mean, you'd think someone would make a tool to do that.11:31
JDigitalWhen Linux does user-friendliness well, it really beats Windows. When it doesn't, it's awfully nuts-and-bolts.11:31
GTroymitrovarr: galengusdorf.com look for my setup!!!11:31
dooglusmatthewjames: it will even resize NTFS partitions if you're lucky11:31
mitrovarrJDigital I wish I could, but I can't code11:31
flankkmitrovarr, how often do you need to do that, anyways?11:32
turbofiskhaving trouble with getting artwiz to work on my fluxbox/ubuntu... they show up in xlsfonts and xfontsel, but when I choose it in a theme it doesn't show up11:32
turbofiskanyone got any ideas?11:32
mitrovarrdual monitors?11:32
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JDigitalIf you could code well enough to make the tool, you wouldn't need the tool.11:32
GTroyyeah!!!11:32
brrrti already added nvidia to my /etc/modules file but it doesnt seem to load at startup :( how can i manage that?11:32
matthewjamesand  computers have a boot selecter aout installed right, to choose what partitian to use at startup?11:32
soundrayJDigital, mitrovarr, I tried to configure dual-monitor on a windows laptop. The results were and still are absolutely unpredictable.11:32
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mitrovarra lot, because I use internet tv stations, but also cable11:32
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ssamdooglus, so swap = 2 x RAM, lets you have 2 or 3  apps open and swap between them11:32
turbofisksoundray: amen to that11:32
mitrovarrso I watch internet TV on my TV using my TV-out, but I also need to turn it off to use my TV with cable11:32
dooglusI've put ubuntu on old Windows boxes for friends and they've barely noticed the difference, other than that "the web goes quicker"11:32
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mitrovarrdooglus I had the same experience with my mom.  For non-power users, it's very easy11:33
flankkmitrovarr, you only need to configure something once.  AFAIK KDE has an included utility for dual monitors.11:33
JDigitalAh, true.11:33
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dooglusif they don't know much about computers, and just want to buy shoes on-line, then ubuntu is fine for newbies.  show then what to click instead of the "blue e" and away they go.11:33
matthewjamesdooglus: k, when i part and ubuntu is installed is there a boot selcter autoinstalled?11:33
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mitrovarrflankk:  gnome doesn't, not that I know of.11:33
JDigitaldooglus, good thing Firefox's logo is a blue circle :)11:33
turbofiskanyone want to help me with artwiz-fonts in ubuntu?11:33
Red-Soxhey11:33
Storkanyone know that command to graphically configure xserver from the command line? "dpkg-configure" or something..11:33
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mitrovarrflankk:  and I did get a permanent config going with metamodes11:33
action09turbofisk no: )11:34
dooglusmatthewjames: it installs grub by default.  it messed things up for me, but I think my disk's MBR is in a bit of a mess.  I've not heard much about it causing problems.11:34
Red-Soxcan someone please walk me through how to emulate ubuntu on win32?11:34
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ssammatthewjames, thats done automatically and the dual booting is set up11:34
Dreamglidercan i get video to work on Skype 2.0.0.69 with Wine ?11:34
soundraydooglus, you can even teach command line operation to an intelligent, naive user. They'll pick it up in no time.11:34
mweStork: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. back up xorg.conf first though11:34
dooglusStork: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I think11:34
matthewjamesk, so when i start up computer it says either start up in windows or linux right?11:34
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JDigitalI picked up command-line easily because the Amiga had it. The problem is the commands. What is named straightforwardly in Amiga is named cryptically in Linux.11:34
dooglusmatthewjames: you get 4 options as I remember it: ubuntu, rescue, memcheck and windows.11:34
ssammatthewjames,  yep11:34
matthewjamesk,ty for u help11:35
action09Stork  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:35
Storkmwe, no point, i can't screw this up any more11:35
ssammatthewjames, hope you like it, have fun11:35
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dooglusJDigital: wt --on-earth="do you mean" ?11:35
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matthewjamesoh, and i can delete parts also right?11:35
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mweStork: alright go ahead then :)11:35
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mitrovarrGTroy:  video will play across both screens using nvidia hardware and twinview.  I know you aren't using nvidia stuff, but I thought you might be interested in knowing it was possible.11:35
soundraydooglus, :D11:35
jayrfunny I can't get into http://www.ubuntuforums.org/11:35
RibsJDigital: What's named cryptically in Linux?11:35
specialbuddyhow do you add repositories11:35
dooglus!universe11:35
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource11:35
sline_crecatureme too jayr11:35
soundrayjayr, same here.11:35
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RibsJDigital: I'd say it's just because you're used to the Amiga CLI than Linux's shell right now :)11:36
StorkAHA! IT WORKS!!11:36
sline_crecaturethat's what i came to ask about, actually...does anyone know what's going on?11:36
ompaulRibs, what do you mean?11:36
dooglusRibs: most of the commands are...  "ls" instead of "dir", "mv" instead of "move", "cp" instead of "copy", etc...11:36
soundrayStork, wow! I'm glad you haven't given up.11:36
haasteemhi, how can i check if alsa is running in blackbox?11:36
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GTroymitrovarr: maybe on my next machine :D11:36
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Storksoundray, that command never ceases to amaze me.11:37
soundrayThat's another thing about Linux: it rewards persistence.11:37
Ribsdooglus: indeed. But because I'm used to Linux's commands, they don't seem at all cryptic to me11:37
RibsIt's just second nature11:37
JDigitalUbuntu is good for entry-level basic use. For power users, it has a steeper learning curve than Windows and lacks some of the features and software that a former Windows user will miss.11:37
GTroymitrovarr: thanks though, good to know11:37
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matthewjamesdooglus: u can also delete parts right?11:37
dooglusRibs: of course.  but for a newbie even "ls" looks like a magic spell11:37
dooglusmatthewjames: I think so.  Why don't you try it?11:37
JDigitalI agree11:37
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Ribsdooglus: As does 'dir' in Amiga CLI :)11:37
matthewjamesi will, wish me luck, downloadidng now'11:37
RibsEach to their own I guess11:37
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Steve^Hey, how can I automatically mount my SuSE linux and Windows partitions, so I can see them in the file manager?11:38
RibsI really miss AmigaOS ... If only Commadore didn't go bust :(11:38
mitrovarrGTroy:  Although twinview is smart enough not to maximize across screens, so you'll have to manually drag if you want it.11:38
JDigitalRibs, but delete on Amiga is "delete", not "rm"11:38
Storksoundray, except there's no sound, xmms won't load up and quake4 still doesn't work ;)11:38
dooglusmatthewjames: if the installer doesn't let you, you can always use control-alt-F2 to get to a real shell prompt and run "fdisk /dev/hda" from there, delete the partition, then control-alt-F1 to get back to the installer.11:38
mitrovarrGTroy:  I think it even worked with accelerated 3d graphics11:38
RibsJDigital: You say Delete, some may say 'remove', which rm is short for11:38
GTroymitrovarr: do you use video on both screens?  is it nice?11:38
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RibsJDigital: I think it's just the gnu coders being lazy :)11:38
dell500Anyone here know how to get gnupod-tools working on breezy? says its installed...11:38
JDigitalpretty much, yeah :)11:38
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haasteemhi, how can i check if alsa is running in blackbox?... i suspect something is not right with my sound now that i run ubuntu in blackbox...11:38
Dreamgliderhow can i kill a process ?11:38
dooglusSteve^: you need to add lines to your /etc/fstab to do that.11:38
soundrayStork, but you're familiar with that situation now, aren't you?11:39
mweDreamglider: kill11:39
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mitrovarrGTroy:  No, my screens are several feet apart, so it would look like ass.11:39
Steve^dooglus, is there a program to add lines for me?11:39
dooglusSteve^: "man fstab" will give you the manual page11:39
matthewjamesdooglus: will it name and mount partitians automatticly?11:39
mweDreamglider: or killall11:39
OrbordeUnder which package would I find the watch command?11:39
dooglusSteve^: maybe.  I don't know it though.11:39
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jayrDreamglider: top k type in process id11:39
GTroymitrovarr: hehehehe11:39
DrfalkorWasup ?11:39
mitrovarrGTroy:  I eventually took the second monitor off for working with an experimental OpenBSD server.11:39
Dreamgliderlike kill skype or wikk wine ?11:39
dooglusOrborde: it's in the procps package11:39
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soundrayOrborde, procps11:39
matthewjamesdooglus: will it name and mount partitians automatticly?11:39
JDigitalI'm tempted almost to just buy a big hard drive and install Windows and Linux from scratch there. All this partitioning is complicated.11:39
GTroymitrovarr: ah, hehe gotcha11:39
Orbordedooglus / soundray : Thank11:39
Storksoundray, i'm not sure. i have that "Segmentation fault" again11:39
Orbordes11:39
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DrfalkorHow long will it take before the dapper get's released as a beta11:40
dooglusmatthewjames: I don't know.  if not, you can edit /etc/fstab manually after installation11:40
mitrovarrGTroy:  But for a while if I wanted to, I could have 2 computers with 4 monitors active in the same room.  Now that's power!!11:40
Drfalkor?11:40
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matthewjamesneb here11:40
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matthewjamesnewb*11:40
GTroymitrovarr: tfts?11:40
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ompaulDreamglider, >kill -9 PID_OF_command< cruel but effective, >killall command< again cruel, however to be cruel with a big stick use >sudo kill -9 PID< or >sudo killall foo<11:40
MalachiIs their any way I can substitute the system bell with another sound?11:40
mitrovarrGTroy:  No, crts all.  That's what I meant by power; I think it dimmed the lights.11:40
diesmohello11:40
brrrtis there another way than /etc/modules to define which modules to load at startup?11:40
dooglusOrborde: to find that out, I ran:   apt-file search bin/watch | grep 'watch$'11:40
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thechitowncubsI can't get access to my Cups daemon from another computer on my network and i specificly said to allow my ip but I still can't connect to the Cups Webserver11:40
mweDrfalkor: isn't it by now? or is it considered alfa. Im not sure11:40
sline_crecaturematthewjames: yes, it will at boot time11:41
phiber_opticcas so is it there?11:41
JDigitalOoh, SATA. Can you dualboot Linux on SATA?11:41
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Dreamgliderhow do i kill wine then11:41
GTroymitrovarr: hehehe that's great, well funny for me anyway11:41
statanyone recommend a gnome process manager?11:41
casphiber_optic: can't find anything about it sorry11:41
diesmoi want to install ubuntu but i wonder which distrib tu use, could someone help please?11:41
soundrayJDigital, yes, you can.11:41
GTroyprolly not for you11:41
madewokherdDreamglider: killall wine-preloader11:41
mitrovarranyone dual-boot linux and xp?11:41
Dreamglideror how do i find the PID for wine11:41
Dreamglideroh ok11:41
mwemitrovarr: lots of people11:41
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JDigitalIs it any different from dualbooting Linux on normal IDE?11:41
gnomefreakmitrovarr, yes11:41
phiber_opticwhere can i find some informations about webcams?11:41
grogoreohi11:41
soundrayJDigital, not really.11:41
mitrovarrdo the built in installers for ubunto work for that, or do you still have to use the old trick with making a file out of the bootloader and using the xp bootloader to load it11:42
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diesmoi want to install ubuntu but i wonder which distrib tu use, could someone help please? :)11:42
FrnkI have problems compiling C programs, i get stdio.h: No such file or directory, and i try to install libc6-dev but i can install it, i get a broken package error in apt-get11:42
lsuactiafnerJDigital : no difference, just use a very new kernel to boot your linux11:42
grogoreoI have a 'bin' foler in my home directory, but when I type in a command it doesn't work. But if I put it into the root bin folder (/bin) it does work.11:42
soundrayJDigital, depending on your chipset, your disk device could be /dev/sda instead of /dev/hda.11:42
dooglusDrfalkor: the dapper beta release is scheduled for March 23rd11:42
platosdiesmo: use the breezy release11:42
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CanYouHelpMePlzdiesmo: breez11:42
gnomefreakmitrovarr, grub will see xp nad add it to the bootloader automaticly11:42
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GTroydiesmo: use breezy!!!!!11:42
Klementasis there some reason that root can't mount a drive in Breezy ??11:42
JDigitallsuactiafner, does Ubuntu Breezy count as "very new"?11:42
omerhow can i enter to terminal consol in ubuntu11:42
mitrovarrgnomefreak:  And that actually works?  It didn't used to, at least with old installers.11:42
diesmoplatos ok thanx, is that the most up to date regarding software ?11:42
dooglusDrfalkor: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule for various dapper dates11:42
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gnomefreakmitrovarr, yes it works11:42
CanYouHelpMePlzomer: applications>accesories11:42
Drfalkordooglus, thnx11:42
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phiber_optichow can I modify the grub menu.. since every time I update there is different images to but from11:42
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omerthx11:43
platosdiesmo: well dapper is in beta, but it has still alot of bugs11:43
diesmoGTroy what about Dapper ?11:43
CanYouHelpMePlzomer: no problem11:43
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mitrovarrgnomefreak:  Good to know.  I have it working with the old file trick method, but I was curious if they'd fixed that.11:43
gnomefreakubotu tell phillyb about grub11:43
Steve^If I want to install new ram in my PC, can I use my old ram with it?11:43
dooglusplatos: I don't think it's in beta yet11:43
GTroydiesmo: too new, not enough support11:43
Steve^Do they have to be the same type?11:43
diesmoplatos oki it is equivalent to debian sarge then ?11:43
ompaul!dapper11:43
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.11:43
JDigitalDoes anyone know if Breezy will let me dualboot on SATA?11:43
michaelsimple question - how do you use the chown command to change permissions from root to user11:43
gnomefreakmitrovarr, ubuntu will most others will also11:43
Moratoriumok, I finally have a gui for my ubuntu11:43
dooglusplatos: the beta freeze is March 16th, and beta release March 23rd11:43
ompauldiesmo, read that note from ubotu in channel!11:43
soundrayJDigital, of course it will.11:43
JDigital4/20 never forget11:43
Drfalkordooglus, I was just wondering.. does the ubuntu dev team work together in a room or something ? do they make money? or are they just using their free time to develop ubuntu ?11:43
platoshttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/11:44
platosdaily release of dapper ^^11:44
dooglusDrfalkor: I think they all work from home.11:44
diesmoompaul which note ?11:44
ompaul!dapper11:44
ubotuThe 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.11:44
dooglusDrfalkor: there is a small paid staff - I think maybe 10 people11:44
Moratoriumbut now everytime I try and plug my usb mouse in it just freezes up and or crashes11:44
soundraymichael, 'sudo chown username.usergroup file'11:44
Moratoriumcan anyone help?11:44
diesmoompaul lol ok :)11:44
dooglusDrfalkor: and most of the money to develop ubuntu comes from Mark Shuttleworth's bottomless bank account :)11:44
mitrovarrMoratorium:  Try booting up with the mouse installed, that might help... but  probably not.11:44
diesmothen breezy it will be :)11:44
Moratoriumno it doesnt11:44
michaelty11:45
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diesmoompaul platos GTroy thanks for helping11:45
Moratoriumit freezes almost at the login11:45
mitrovarrMoratorium:  Hmm... is it a really old computer?11:45
Drfalkordooglus, ok - thnx, so - this is their fulltime job ?:P11:45
soundraydiesmo, good decision.11:45
mweMoratorium: you need to check the log files11:45
Moratoriumno, its a brand new laptop11:45
phiber_optichow can I modify the grub menu.. since every time I update there is different images to but from11:45
dooglusDrfalkor: I'll see if I can find the webpage where I read that.11:45
omerhow can i enter to terminal consol in ubuntu11:45
mitrovarrMoratorium:  Does it crash instantly if you plug in other types of USB devices?11:45
Drfalkordooglus, goodie :)11:45
Moratoriumand the bloody touch pad isnt working under ubuntu either11:45
Storksoundray, VICTORY! :D11:45
diesmophiber_optic edit /boot/grub/menu.lst11:45
FrnkI have problems compiling C programs, i get stdio.h: No such file or directory, and i try to install libc6-dev but i can install it, i get "libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14) but 2.3.5-1ubuntu12 is to be installed" in apt-get.. can anyone help me? :)11:45
soundrayomer, do you mean a text console?11:46
phiber_opticthanx11:46
Moratoriumgive me a sec to try that11:46
GTroyDamn! WoW runs under wine 9.5?11:46
omeri think11:46
mweMoratorium: what kind of tp?11:46
soundrayStork, so you're blasting again.11:46
OrbordeHow can I get something compiled under SunOS? I'm trying to compile watch myself, and it's having an aneurysm11:46
mweMoratorium: synaptics?11:46
platosFrnk: did you try apt-get install build-essential ?11:46
Klementasis there some reason that root can't mount a drive in Breezy ??11:46
mweMoratorium: if so you need to configure it and it will work11:46
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Frnkplatos: nope, ill try :P11:46
Storksoundray, yeah :) I'm going to write a guide for all my errors so i know how to fix in future11:46
OrbordeI did apt-get source procps, uploaded the orig.tar.gz to the machine I was compiling it on, and it doesn't want to make11:46
Storksoundray, right after i finish this game of course ;)11:46
soundrayOrborde, procps is Linux-specific, as far as I know.11:46
Moratoriumyes its synaptics11:47
mweMoratorium: in fact I've not heard of anyone not having the tp work before11:47
soundrayStork, that may be worth posting in the forums.11:47
mweMoratorium: it works in ubuntu11:47
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Moratoriummine doesnt11:47
omerhelp,i can not enter to consol11:47
dooglusDrfalkor: this isn't the page I was thinking of, but 3 paras up from the bottom of http://www.linuxjournal.com/comment/reply/8752 kind of confirms what I said11:47
Orbordesoundray: Oh. Bother. Any way I can quickly get a version of watch for SunOS?11:47
phiber_opticwhat is recovery mode??11:47
Storksoundray, i'll write it soon then :)11:47
omerwhere is it11:47
mweMoratorium: yes11:47
mweMoratorium: but you need to configure11:47
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HymnToLifeanyone knows an office suite that is lighter than openoffice ?11:47
Moratoriumand Im touching pretty damn hard11:47
mweMoratorium: it works, trust me11:47
Drfalkordooglus, thank you11:48
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Moratoriumwhere? in the xorg.conf?11:48
mweMoratorium: you need to configure it11:48
mweMoratorium: first install xorg-driver-synaptics11:48
gnomefreakgood luck HymnToLife11:48
Frnkplatos: dont work, i get "build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or libc-dev"11:48
ompaulHymnToLife, koffice11:48
dooglusHymnToLife: "gnumeric" and "abiword" are spreadsheet and word processor that are lighter.11:48
platosFrnk: hm... are you using dapper?11:48
gnomefreakkoffice is lighter?11:48
HymnToLifehmyeah but Koffic is for KDE :p11:48
mweMoratorium: I'll paste the relevant part of xorg.conf for you if you want it11:48
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mitrovarrMoratorium:  It's kind of a half-ass solution, but you could try the mouse with a usb/ps2 adapter if it has one.11:48
omerhow can i enter to terminal consol in ubuntu,please help i can not find that11:48
HymnToLifeit's to install ona really old box which has DSL on it11:49
soundrayOrborde, you could try to do a shell loop along the lines of 'while true ; do cat file ; sleep 2 ; done'11:49
Frnkplatos: yes11:49
flogistonAnyone who knows a good vnc over ssh viewer for windows?11:49
dooglusomer: it's on the applications menu, in system tools I think11:49
Moratoriumlet me configure my touch pad first11:49
HymnToLifedooglus > thanks, I'm gonna try em out11:49
diesmodooglus or accessories11:49
Frnkplatos: no, i dont11:49
platosFrnk: thought so ^^ there are still problems in dapper with stuff like that11:49
omeri m trying11:49
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mweFrnk: could indicate a broken sources.list11:49
Moratoriumok please11:49
platosFrnk: o...11:49
gnomefreakFrnk, try sudo apt-get install libc6-dev11:49
Moratoriummwe paste it please11:49
diesmoomer try the "accessories" menu11:49
Moratoriumif you can find it11:49
Frnkgnomefreak: thats the problem, it dont work :P11:49
mweMoratorium: the tp config?11:49
dooglusdiesmo: I don't remember.  I'm on windows right now, and I generally use an icon on my panel to run a terminal, 'cos I do it often.11:49
avousercan anyone point me to some documentation on how rlogind and rshd are config'd in 5.10 ?11:49
Moratoriumyeah11:50
gnomefreakplatos, there are alot of issues left in dapper11:50
mweMoratorium: ok11:50
diesmodooglus and i use a french distrib :)11:50
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Orbordesoundray: D'oh. You're right. Tee hee.11:50
Frnkmwe: yea, it can be11:50
omerthere is not accessories menu :S11:50
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avouseri am having abit of trouble getting ti to work11:50
platosgnomefreak: i'm using it right now, and the edubuntu release11:50
platosgnomefreak: got it to work quite alright11:50
soundrayavouser, those are deprecated AFAIK. Can you perhaps use ssh instead?11:50
ompaulplatos, it is a dev platform, just like a drawing for a car that is not yet in production you can take the test model for a drive, but don't expect it to get a cert for roadworthyness11:50
diesmoomer another solution is to switch to console mode CTRL+ALT+F1 and use apt-get to install gnome-terminal if it is not installed11:50
Moratoriumwhats the command to install  xorg-driver-synaptics11:50
dooglusomer: what about system tools then?11:50
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gnomefreakim using dapper on my other hd i had to boot to win to take care of somethings :)11:50
mweMoratorium: did you install xorg-driver-synaptics?11:50
Moratoriumno11:50
gnomefreakand build-essential installed for me without a problem11:51
platosompaul: lol i know that, but edubuntu 6.04 has sound on thin clients and i need that11:51
omeri am looking sys tools11:51
Moratoriumgive me the cmnd pls11:51
JDigitalIn gparted, why can't I make my "extended" partition any bigger? I'm making the partition before it smaller but I can't seem to make the extended partition any bigger to the left11:51
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diesmoomer then CTRL+ALT+F7 to go back to X11:51
siddI can't update my packages because it says that I have another package management program (like apt-get) open11:51
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MoratoriumI know its sudo....something or other11:51
dooglusomer: you can type alt-f2 and ask it to run "gnome-terminal"11:51
mwe!paste11:51
ubotu[paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text11:51
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gnomefreaksidd, close synaptic11:51
avousersoundray,   unfortunately i am in a stituation where rsh/rlogin is required11:51
mitrovarrMoratorium:  Probably "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-synaptics"11:51
siddwhat is synaptic?11:51
avouserit is turning in to a huge pain11:51
Moratoriumthanks mitro11:52
ompaulplatos, fine, may I ask that do you not promote dapper in this channel yet as new users *will* try it and then be upset when it fails, and btw that info on edubuntu and sound is useful for me also :-)11:52
Moratoriumtrying it now11:52
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gnomefreaksidd what do you have open right now?11:52
mitrovarrsidd:  The nice graphical package manager11:52
Moratoriumjust need to get to the root11:52
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pmontemayorkewl, can anyone tell me if there is a img file for Ubuntu that I can use to boot onto my Mac 8600?11:52
dooglussidd: synaptic is a gui program for installing stuff in ubuntu11:52
gnomefreaksynaptic is a packagemanager (graphical)11:52
avouserquestion why is mpich still compiled with rsh as default? ...11:52
siddI don't have that open11:52
GTroyanyone played world of warcraft under wine?11:52
siddall I have open is IRC and firefox11:52
mitrovarrsidd:  system -> administration ->  Synaptic Package Manager11:52
GTroymy local lug said cedega, but wine looks better11:52
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dooglussidd: run "ps -ef | grep -e apt -e dpkg -e synaptic | grep -v grep" - see anything?11:53
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phiber_opticdoes anyone know how can I change the background on grub?11:53
platosompaul: well then a last warning: dapper is still in beta with lots 'o' bugs don't try this if you don't want irritation :P11:53
mweMoratorium: did you install the synaptics driver?11:53
gnomefreakplatos, when did it hit beta?11:53
MoratoriumIm working on it11:53
MoratoriumI just need to get into the root11:53
gnomefreaklast i heard its alpha11:53
platosgnomefreak: flight cd 2 went out awhile ago... dunno what its called11:54
sidd@dooglus  no I don't see anything11:54
mweMoratorium: just go to a terminal and type sudo -i11:54
martinhi I'm interested in testing the development version and filing/following bug reports. How would I get this installed?11:54
dooglusplatos: why do you keep saying dapper is in beta?  it's a long way off beta.11:54
mweMoratorium: then your user password11:54
gnomefreakflight cd 2 =aplha release 211:54
MoratoriumI cant do that11:54
platosgnomefreak: flight cd 3 is about to come out soon11:54
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MoratoriumI dont have any way to move the pointer11:54
gnomefreakbeta will be in end feb early march11:54
platosdooglus: lol i don't know, i thought it was beta11:54
SweetestSavage!mount11:54
uboturumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f11:54
Moratoriumso no terminal11:54
omerdooglus: a text window appered i do not now if it is terminal console11:54
gnomefreakplatos, this week11:54
MoratoriumI restarted into ubuntu safe mode11:54
Moratoriumthat works11:54
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KlementasI'm getting this error when trying to mount a drive:  mount: /dev/hdd already mounted or /mnt/ busy ;  the problem is, that drive isn't mounted and there is nothing mounted to /mnt; in fact I can't mount ANY drive to any place in my filesystem;  any ideas what could be wrong ???11:55
dooglusplatos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule shows the release schedule.  beta is in March11:55
soundrayavouser, too bad you can't switch to ssh, it's got much better support. Have you RTFM on rsh?11:55
mitrovarrMoratorium:  control-alt-f1 will take you to a text terminal, control-alt-f7 will take you back to the gui11:55
mweMoratorium: ok11:55
siddall I have is terminal and IRC open11:55
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avouseri have in install rshd and rlogind from the uni. repos. , but when i try to connect from t system that i have included in the hosts.equiv file i get "connection refused"11:55
dooglussidd: that's odd.  did you have apt-get crash on you?11:55
sethkKlementas, try creating a new mount point and mounting there.  perhaps you have something mounted in a tree under mnt, say /mnt/xyz.11:55
platosdooglus: lol i know you'r right, i confused beta with alpha :S11:55
Moratoriumthe package is already installed11:56
sethkKlementas, then if you try to mount on /mnt, it would hide /mnt/xyz11:56
Klementassethk: I already did thtat11:56
mweMoratorium: now apt-get install xorg-driver-synaptics11:56
Moratoriumit said 0 upgraded and 0 installed11:56
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sethkKlementas, tried a new mountpoint in /?11:56
Klementassethk: I've done the easy stuff11:56
siddI have never run apt-crash nor do I know what it is, so I doubt it11:56
omerdooglus: a text window appered i do not now if it is terminal console11:56
MoratoriumI did that mwe11:56
Klementassethk: yes!11:56
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avousersoundray, yes ... and have it set up accorddingly ...11:56
sethkKlementas, well, I don't know unless I ask.11:56
gnomefreaksidd, what were you trying to do when you got that error?11:56
mweMoratorium: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7037 adjust the values to your likings11:56
dooglusomer: it's probably a terminal.  I don't know what exactly you want from a "console terminal".11:56
Klementassethk: I already stated that I tried other places in my question11:56
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siddupdate packages11:57
avouserthats why i was looking for a some ubuntu docs on the subject, to see if it differs11:57
sethkKlementas, ok, I just got here so I missed that.  I'll let others help you then11:57
mweMoratorium: and back up the xorg.conf you have by now11:57
dooglusomer: maybe you mean a "virtual console" - in which case, you get there by holding control and alt when you press F1.  hold alt and press F7 to get back here.11:57
gnomefreaksidd, do you have terminal open right now?11:57
omerdooglus:i want to install a program11:57
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hydroksydeI need to put windows 98 on my machine... how can I back up my boot sector?11:57
gnomefreakor even the updater11:57
siddno I closed it a minute ago11:57
omerfrom terminal console11:57
siddstill have error with term closed11:57
dooglusomer: in that case any terminal will do.11:57
soundrayavouser, please be patient. You may have to repeat your question occasionally to find an expert.11:57
gnomefreaksidd, keep xchat open close everything else11:57
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Klementassethk: umount: /mnt: not mounted11:58
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dooglusomer: (unless you're installing something which needs to be installed from outside of the graphical environment).  What are you installing?11:58
Moratoriumok, thanks mwe, this might take a bit of time11:58
siddeverything is closed except for xchat and still error11:58
MoratoriumI'll chat to u when Im done11:58
ashygwhat's the difference of erase entire disc and erase entire disk and use LVM?11:58
ashygwhat is LVM?11:58
gnomefreakclose the error11:58
phiber_opticdoes anyone know how to change the background on grub? and what is splash image?11:58
platos!LVM11:58
ubotusomebody said lvm was (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/11:58
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mweMoratorium: you have to type it all?11:58
dooglusashyg: it's the Logical Volume Manager11:58
gnomefreaksidd, open a terminal and type sudo apt-get update11:58
Moratoriumnot sure yet11:58
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ashygdooglus: so which should i choose11:59
soundrayashyg, if you're on your first install, leave LVM aside.11:59
ashygerase entire disk or erase and use LVM?11:59
dooglusashyg: apparently it makes it easier to resize partitions later, 'cos it doesn't use "real" partitions.  I've never tried using it personally.11:59
ashygi installed once but i need to reinstall11:59
ashygokay11:59
omerdooglus,thank you,lastly to install mplayer which command i will use in console11:59
ashygi don't ever need to repartition that drive11:59
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sethkKlementas, at the risk of getting yelled at again,  doing umount /mnt does not show that something under /mnt is not mounted11:59
gnomefreak!mplayer11:59
ubotumethinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106111:59
soundrayashyg, you can always add it on later if need be.11:59
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specialbuddyis the new firefox available on synaptic11:59
dooglusomer: you'll need to add the "multiverse" repository first.  see what ubotu is about to say...11:59
dooglus!universe11:59
siddwhen i run apt-get update it says cannot open--permission denied11:59
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource11:59
Klementassethk: I just posted the output of umount to you12:00

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