[12:00] <eth42> Seveas, are you sure that names for mime types are stored in gconf? I used "find" in gconf-editor and searched for "jar" and ".*jar.*" and couldn't find it although Nautilus knows jar files.
[12:00] <MacSlow> SuperSam, that's some months ago... I guess if you searhch there for "sensors" or similar you'll find it.
[12:00] <Blippe> dooglus, instead of metacity that is...
[12:00] <SuperSam> Thankyou MacSlow - I take it from the ScreenCaptures you aren't english? - If not you speak it well :).
[12:00] <Seveas> eth42, /usr/lib/mime is the place
[12:01] <pal_> anyone here who use Qt/PyQt, who can tell me why i have to use tmake under windows? when configuring sip?
[12:01] <Sanne> aggressor, I think since you won't need to compile sources, you can try to continue with point 4. "Configuration" from your url.
[12:01] <MacSlow> SuperSam, That's right I'm german, but english is almost like a second native tongue to me.
[12:01] <aggressor> ok
[12:01] <Sanne> aggressor, brb, coffee
[12:01] <bimberi> cat /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[12:02] <SuperSam> MacSlow, do you have MSN Messenger?
[12:02] <dooglus> Blippe: I'm happy with metacity.
[12:02] <MacSlow> SuperSam, yes
[12:02] <bimberi> oops - meant that for a terminal :)
[12:02] <dooglus> Blippe: I'm asking whether it's possible to stop nautilus from running.
[12:02] <Majdaa> what kind of linux partition does ubuntu need?
[12:02] <SuperSam> MacSlow - May I add you? You seem a helpful guy and seem to know some interesting stuff :)
[12:03] <bimberi> Majdaa: it uses ext3 by default but will work with others - ext2, reiserfs, ...
[12:03] <Shoe> ..anyone have the firefox 1.4.99+[...] ubuntu10 or ubuntu9 debs for firefox?
[12:03] <Shoe> ..anyone have the firefox 1.4.99+[...] ubuntu10 or ubuntu9 debs for firefox?
[12:03] <hawking> Ihave a corrupt package and neither apt-get nor aptitude or dpkg removes it .. is there any other way to remove the package?
[12:04] <nbound> can someone tell me how i can get totem to play mpeg movies
[12:04] <Shoe> (sorry, didn't mean to spam)
[12:04] <MacSlow> SuperSam, I'm just some dude coding some stuff... but if you can't "resist" go ahead -> macslowac@hotmail.com
[12:04] <eth42> Seveas, /usr/lib/mime seems to be the place to associate mime types with default application but not for associating mime types like "application/x-jar" with explicit names like "Java archive"
[12:04] <SuperSam> :D
[12:05] <TTilus> Shoe: what do you need that for?
[12:05] <TTilus> Shoe: i mean the spesific version
[12:06] <Shoe> Yes.
[12:07] <nbound> can someone tell me where to get a codec so totem will play mpeg movies?
[12:07] <Majdaa> i'm really confused, i have only one hard drive partition...when i open partition magic, it shows i have 2 partitions and one of them is unallocated
[12:07] <Shoe> The ubuntu12 one gives me an error message on certain sites: "The page isn't redirecting properly
[12:07] <Shoe> 
[12:07] <Shoe> 
[12:07] <Shoe> 
[12:07] <Shoe> 
[12:07] <Shoe> 
[12:07] <Shoe> 
[12:07] <Shoe> 
[12:07] <Shoe> 
[12:07] <Shoe> Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete."
[12:07] <Shoe> shit.
[12:08] <Shoe> sorry.
[12:08] <nbound> can someone tell me where to get a codec so totem will play mpeg movies? please?
[12:08] <Shoe> cut and paste, didn't mean to have those enters in there.
[12:08] <eth42> nbound: I use totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer and that works perfectly
[12:08] <khermans_> ANyone know if there is a Firefox extension to pull your bookmarks from Google Personalized?
[12:08] <RedGreenBlue> !mpeg
[12:08] <ubotu> RedGreenBlue: Are you on ritalin?
[12:08] <nbound> eth42, errrr?
[12:08] <eth42> nbound: just apt-get install totem-xine
[12:09] <nbound> okay
[12:09] <Shoe> TTilus, you catch that?
[12:09] <Sanne> aggressor, back
[12:09] <Seveas> Shoe, NEVER EVER paste in here
[12:09] <Seveas> and most certainly not empty lines
[12:09] <Shoe> I know now.
[12:09] <Shoe> My apologies.
[12:09] <nbound> thanks, eth42
[12:09] <RedGreenBlue> a
[12:09] <TTilus> Shoe: and ubuntu9 did not?
[12:09] <aggressor> Sanne, did u mean 3.3
[12:10] <Shoe> correct.
[12:10] <Sanne> aggressor, 3.3 what?
[12:10] <aggressor> Sanne, coz in 4 i must have .wine in my home
[12:10] <aggressor> point
[12:10] <Shoe> (dapper)
[12:10] <Arafangion> Heya guys, how does ubuntu manage LVM?
[12:10] <eth42> Seveas, /usr/lib/mime seems to be the place for associating MIME types with default applications but not for associating MIME types like "application/x-jar" with explicit names like "Java archive". I wonder where Nautilus (or gnome-vfs) gets these strings from. Can you help?
[12:10] <derkdsd> hi
[12:11] <TTilus> Arafangion: in what spesific way "how"?
[12:11] <derkdsd> i need some help
[12:11] <Sanne> aggressor, in 4.1 it sais to create .wine dir by running wine for the first time. Try to do that, type wine in a terminal.
[12:11] <Majdaa> i'm really confused, i have only one hard drive partition...when i open partition magic, it shows i have 2 partitions and one of them is unallocated
[12:11] <Majdaa> i'm really confused, i have only one hard drive partition...when i open partition magic, it shows i have 2 partitions and one of them is unallocated
[12:11] <TTilus> Arafangion: what you want to do?
[12:11] <hawking> How can i manually remove a package?Ican't download anything through apt-get PLEASEHELPME
[12:11] <derkdsd> how can i install nvidia geforce 6600 Gt drivers on my ubuntu linux amd64??? i cant install it
[12:11] <aggressor> k
[12:11] <Arafangion> Does it put the tools into an initrd, so that / can be in lvm, or does it put / into a 'normal' partition, so you can only have the other partitions in LVM? (Preferred, I don't like initrd)
[12:11] <aggressor> bash: wine: command not found
[12:11] <eth42> hawking: use synaptic. it's quite self-explanatory
[12:11] <Shoe> derkdsd, do "dpkg -r <packagename>
[12:12] <Sanne> aggressor, then you don't have it installed. Please start synaptic.
[12:12] <Seveas> eth42, /usr/share/mime-info and ~/.gnome/mime-info seem to be the place
[12:12] <derkdsd> umm shoe.. i go to try it
[12:12] <TTilus> hawking: have you tried to force purge, like --force ?
[12:12] <derkdsd> tnx...
[12:12] <Shoe> aol mail.
[12:12] <aggressor> done
[12:12] <hawking> TTilus :yes
[12:12] <drunkpikachu> does ubuntu have a deafult root password, or do I somehow miss when they ask for it?
[12:12] <aggressor> Sanne, done
[12:12] <TTilus> hawking: does not help?
[12:13] <sklav> drunkpikachu, use sudo and ur username password
[12:13] <Sanne> find wine in the package list (you can highlight one package to give the frame focus, then type wine and it should be found)
[12:13] <sklav> there is no password for root per say
[12:13] <sklav> the account is locked
[12:13] <hawking> TTilus :no
[12:13] <TTilus> Shoe: dont really know where you could get older versions
[12:13] <Arafangion> TTilus: Do you know how it manages LVM?
[12:13] <gimmulf_> Anyone with openbox experience?
[12:13] <lsuactiafner> ./m ubotu tell drunkpikachu about sudo
[12:13] <robotgeek> gimmulf_: yes
[12:13] <Shoe> drunkpikachu, if you want to set a root password, do sudo passwd.
[12:13] <Arafangion> TTilus: Via initrd, or otherwise?
[12:13] <TTilus> Arafangion: "manage" and "LVM", does not compute
[12:14] <drunkpikachu> thanks guys. cool bot too
[12:14] <Shoe> ohkee, then should I bugreport, and wait for new one?
[12:14] <TTilus> Arafangion: LVM manages itself, nobody else needs to manage it
[12:14] <Arafangion> TTilus: Does ubuntu rely on an initrd when LVM is used, or does it rely on / NOT being an LVM partition?
[12:14] <Sanne> aggressor,  find wine in the package list (you can highlight one package to give the frame focus, then type wine and it should be found)
[12:14] <Arafangion> TTilus: The LVM tools to setup the LVM system have to be avaiable.
[12:14] <Shoe> TTilus, thanks.
[12:14] <dooglus> how can I stop nautilus running when I run GNOME without removing the nautilus package?
[12:15] <TTilus> Arafangion: afaik initrd, but im not sure
[12:15] <aggressor> Sanne, yes
[12:15] <derkdsd> "dpkg -r <packagename>" he say me is for uninstall.... but i need to install to have graphic acelerator
[12:15] <aggressor> Sanne, Done
[12:15] <derkdsd> in my nvidia 6600GT
[12:15] <TTilus> Shoe: i would at least check if the bug is already filed
[12:15] <Sanne> aggressor, is it marked as installed?
[12:15] <Arafangion> TTilus: Than / can live inside of LVM, I guess. Thanks.
[12:16] <gimmulf_> robotgeek:  it didnt create any .openbox or .config/openbox with configs when i installed it, it only created the global /etc/xdg/openbox/  with rc.xml and menu.xml in it. So i created a "openbox" dir like .config/openbox/ and copied the 2 config files there but i still cant get it to work and my xsession-errors shows me: http://pastebin.com/501666 . Cant understand what's wrong i also ran obconf
[12:16] <derkdsd> the file is  "NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8178-pkg2.run" and i cant install it
[12:16] <aggressor> there is many files
[12:16] <aggressor> and not installed
[12:16] <TTilus> Arafangion: "not sure", you have been warned  :)
[12:16] <nbound> eth42, i get video now, but no sound
[12:16] <nbound> derkdsd, just use the ones u get through synaptic
[12:16] <Sanne> aggressor, there should be only one package named wine.
[12:16] <tristanmike> quick question; how do I change either the resolution, or the refresh rate on the "logon screen" for Kubuntu and/or Ubuntu
[12:17] <hawking> does noone know how to manually remove a corrupt package??
[12:17] <eth42> nbound: is it specific to this file? do you get sound with, say, ogg vorbis files?
[12:17] <derkdsd> nbound where is synaptic
[12:17] <derkdsd> im amateur _(
[12:17] <nbound> system->admin->synaptic package manager
[12:17] <Arafangion> TTilus: Well, I'll know within 1 second of installatino :)
[12:17] <eth42> derkdsd: System / Administration / Synaptic Package Manager
[12:17] <aggressor> Sanne, I found that
[12:17] <nbound> dont have any ogg files
[12:17] <derkdsd> ok ok i opened
[12:17] <aggressor> Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)
[12:17] <eth42> nbound: wav?
[12:17] <eth42> :-)
[12:17] <derkdsd> and know how can i install it
[12:17] <Sanne> aggressor, and it is not installed?
[12:18] <derkdsd> searching in synaptic
[12:18] <aggressor> yea not
[12:18] <derkdsd> thanks again
[12:18] <eth42> derkdsd: look at Settings / Repositories in Synaptic
[12:18] <Sanne> aggressor, well, then let's do that :). Do you know how?
[12:18] <nbound> it'll whinge if i play an mp3 but it always has i use xmms for mp3s
[12:18] <derkdsd> ok ok , thanks a lot again eth42 i go to try it
[12:18] <aggressor> Sanne, yea i know mark and apply
[12:18] <aggressor> Sanne, 5min
[12:18] <Sanne> aggressor, cool, go for it.
[12:18] <lsuactiafner> derkdsd : sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8178-pkg2.run
[12:18] <Sanne> ok
[12:19] <derkdsd> i go to try tnx
[12:19] <lsuactiafner> derkdsd : also you need apt-get install build-essentials
[12:19] <aggressor> Sanne, i need wine 2 install games right ?
[12:19] <derkdsd> umm ok
[12:19] <eth42> nbound: sorry, that didn't compile. :-)
[12:19] <eth42> what did you say??
[12:19] <robotgeek> gimmulf_: how did you install openbox, from synaptic?
[12:19] <Sanne> aggressor, only for windows games, and don't expect that every game actually runs.
[12:19] <gimmulf_>  robotgeek  yes
[12:19] <nbound> it will complain if i try to play an mp3, but it always has... ive been using xmms instead for mp3's
[12:20] <aggressor> Sanne, i wont
[12:20] <nbound> but its fine with mpeg movies... just no sound
[12:20] <robotgeek> gimmulf_: type "sudo apt-get remove --purge openbox && sudo apt-get install openbox"
[12:20] <robotgeek> brb
[12:20] <aggressor> Sanne, 2 i need something more wine and brains ?
[12:20] <aggressor> :D
[12:20] <TTilus> hawking: what do you get if you try $ sudo dpkg --force purge package ?
[12:20] <derkdsd>  i try sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8178-pkg2.run but...
[12:20] <derkdsd> Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the package 'binutils' ins
[12:20] <derkdsd> i cant
[12:20] <Sanne> aggressor, there are some nice native games for linux, including commercial ones like quake2, quake3 arena, unreal tournament/3/4, doom3 etc
[12:20] <derkdsd> and i put apt-get install build-essentials
[12:21] <derkdsd> but nothing
[12:21] <Arafangion> I am having trouble configuring LVM.
[12:21] <Arafangion> Keep current partitino layout and configure LVM - YES
[12:21] <Sanne> aggressor, what do you always mean with "2"? It's very hard to understand what you say sometimes ;)
[12:21] <lsuactiafner> derkdsd : also you need apt-get install build-essentials
[12:21] <eth42> nbound: I also installed a whole lot of libraries. anything that had "mpg" or "mpeg" in the package name and also libmad. I also downloaded the win32 codec packs from mplayer and put them into /usr/lib/win32
[12:21] <Arafangion> Now, I can modify VG's and/or LV's, but I can't appear to do either.
[12:21] <gimmulf_> hmm robotgeek  are you sure on that command?
[12:22] <nbound> hmmm ill give that a go
[12:22] <derkdsd> yes lsuactiafner
[12:22] <aggressor> Sanne, 2 - take that word like u spell it (do/to i have bad english)
[12:22] <derkdsd> i put that
[12:22] <gimmulf_> robotgeek:  ok i ran it do i need to restart X?
[12:22] <sklav> maybe a sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[12:22] <hawking> TTilus :ur sure the command is sudo dpkg --force purge package?
[12:22] <Arafangion> It complains that I either have no physical volumes!
[12:22] <tristanmike> can someone please help me configure the logon refresh/resolution rate. Is there a file I need to edit to lower the refresh rate. My logon screen is all distorted because of it.
[12:22] <derkdsd> and later i try to install it but doesnt work...
[12:22] <TTilus> hawking: sorry $ sudo dpkg --purge --force-all package
[12:22] <Set> anyone have experience setting up torrentflux on ubuntu?
[12:22] <sklav> tristanmike, edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:22] <Sanne> aggressor, ah, you mean "do"? But 2 is "two", with a "t". Anyway, I would appreciate if you could just spell it like "do", and "u" like "you".
[12:23] <Set> !torrentflux
[12:23] <ubotu> No idea, Set
[12:23] <tristanmike> ahh, right, thanks sklav
[12:23] <sklav> np
[12:23] <aggressor> Sanne, you are master :D
[12:23] <hawking> TTilus :dpkg: error while cleaning up:
[12:23] <hawking>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
[12:23] <Stormx2> Hey everyone
[12:23] <aggressor> Sanne, but i need something more exsept wine ?
[12:23] <Arafangion> So, how do I install ubuntu with LVM?
[12:23] <jared> how can I start vino on a different port?
[12:23] <TTilus> hawking: and you propably have googled that, and with ""'s?
[12:24] <Arafangion> The installation system doesn't seem to let me!
[12:24] <globe> anybody run ubuntu on intel 852 video chipset?
[12:24] <hawking> TTilus :it's a rare package :/ what if Iremove all files manually? will it get removed from apt-get list?
[12:24] <Sanne> aggressor, I think you should be fine with wine as it is, but sometimes people recommend other versions of wine, special versions made for gaming. Those are not free, though. I would first try with wine.
[12:24] <globe> I cant get my display >800x600
[12:24] <derkdsd> fuck nvidia drivers ;........................(
[12:24] <derkdsd> heh
[12:24] <eth42> Seveas: /usr/share/mime-info looks good in principle. but there is no entry like "Java archive" that Nautilus displays for application/x-jar. gnome-vfs.keys only lists "Java code archive" 3 times. so where does Nautilus get the string "Java archive" from??
[12:24] <ompaul> derekS, language pleae
[12:24] <aggressor> Sanne, Ok
[12:24] <derkdsd> sry
[12:25] <TTilus> hawking: no, its not how pkg management works
[12:25] <TTilus> hawking: there is separate package database
[12:25] <Sanne> aggressor, but I'm really not a master with gaming under wine, I use wine to run some apps I need for my work, so I might not be able to help much further than initial setup.
[12:25] <hawking> TTilus :so one package broken and whole system down?what a nice system
[12:25] <Arafangion> How the heck do I create a Volume Group?
[12:25] <nekostar> YALL KNOW WHATS FUNNY?
[12:25] <nekostar> er
[12:25] <nekostar> -caps
[12:25] <TTilus> hawking: and tinkering with that will quite likely trash your system totally
[12:26] <hawking> TTilus :that is great
[12:26] <aggressor> Sanne, fk there is nothing about wine in my home folder
[12:26] <nekostar> every time i decide i should try another distro again for my main machine i redo ubuntu and it just gets sweeter and sweeter
[12:26] <derkdsd> anyone can install nvidia drivers on his ubuntu ?
[12:26] <nekostar> yeah
[12:26] <nekostar> derkdsd, sure can
[12:26] <Sanne> aggressor, as the howto sais, it will be created the first time you run wine.
[12:26] <eth42> derkdsd: yes. just did that today
[12:26] <jacoplane> hya, i got a wirless pcmci card (smc ez-connect g) but it doesn't show up as pcmci card in system settings.  Anybody got a clue on how to avtivate and use this card?
[12:26] <nekostar> you need help?
[12:26] <derkdsd> hehe
[12:26] <aggressor> oo
[12:26] <aggressor> sri
[12:26] <hawking> TTilus :so there is no way out right?
[12:26] <Sanne> aggressor :)
[12:26] <derkdsd> because all time give me error message
[12:27] <aggressor> Sanne, done
[12:27] <nekostar> what nvidia card do you have?
[12:27] <nekostar> and exactly what error message
[12:27] <eth42> derkdsd: which error?
[12:27] <nekostar> :)
[12:27] <derkdsd> geforce 6600GT
[12:27] <nekostar> ah
[12:27] <derkdsd> Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the package 'binutils' ins
[12:27] <nekostar> you need the new drivers
[12:27] <derkdsd> etc
[12:27] <nekostar> 7667 i think it is
[12:27] <derkdsd> when i go to install
[12:27] <Sanne> aggressor, so, do you have a ~/.wine now?
[12:27] <aggressor> done
[12:27] <flodine> anyone run a intel 603 chip with ubuntu
[12:27] <foresight> !ati
[12:27] <ubotu> methinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[12:27] <aggressor> Sanne, yes
[12:27] <nekostar> first do this in a terminal:
[12:27] <topyli> !anyone
[12:27] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[12:27] <nekostar> sudo apt-get build-dep nvidia-glx
[12:28] <eth42> derkdsd: can't you use the package from multiverse (like nvidia-glx or whatever)
[12:28] <nekostar> that will get all the stuff you must have to compile it
[12:28] <Sanne> aggressor, look into ~/.wine and tell me what's there.
[12:28] <nekostar> yes make sure that everything is enabled
[12:28] <TTilus> hawking: yes there is
[12:28] <nekostar> eth42,
[12:28] <hawking> TTilus :what is it for God's sake?
[12:28] <nekostar> thats not the 7667 or whatever the latest is though
[12:28] <nekostar> let me get u a link
[12:28] <derkdsd> umm
[12:28] <derkdsd> i go to try
[12:28] <TTilus> hawking: i havent faced this kind of situation ever before
[12:28] <TTilus> hawking: let me think a bit
[12:29] <hawking> TTilus :ok ... :/
[12:29] <derkdsd> lol too many files
[12:29] <aggressor> Sanne,  dosdevices, drive_c, system,  user , userdef
[12:29] <derkdsd> o download it know..
[12:29] <derkdsd> wait please
[12:29] <Chris_Tucker> how does one search for a filename including something like *MX* ?
[12:29] <gimmulf> robotgeek:  hmm sorry my computer crashed, wierd thing i cant restart X or logout to GDM my screens just becomes black so i need to turn off the computer by pressing the button and restart
[12:30] <nekostar> eth42, derkdsd http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074
[12:30] <nekostar> check that out
[12:30] <Sanne> aggressor, very good, then you should be set. The folder "drive_c" is your fake windows drive that wine uses to install software. You might browser through this and you will see familiar directory names.
[12:30] <nekostar> but derkdsd
[12:30] <nekostar> make sure you enable universe and multiverse in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:30] <Sanne> aggressor, familiar, if you know windows, that is ;)
[12:30] <nekostar> and do a sudo apt-get update
[12:30] <gimmulf> robotgeek: i ran this command though: sudo apt-get remove --purge openbox and now i dont have openbox installed anymore
[12:30] <TTilus> hawking: what was the package?
[12:30] <Chris_Tucker> how does one search for a filename including something like *MX* on a drive?
[12:31] <derkdsd> ok nekostar
[12:31] <hawking> TTilus :it is a package Iinstalled with a deb file ...
[12:31] <TTilus> hawking: were there many of them?
[12:31] <derkdsd> i go to watch
[12:31] <hawking> TTilus :not in repos
[12:31] <hawking> TTilus :no one package
[12:31] <robotgeek> gimmulf: true, now install it with 'sudo aptitude install openbox'
[12:31] <eth42> nekostar, derkdsd, proprietary drivers suck anyway
[12:31] <eth42> is there no way to get tv output using the free nv driver?
[12:31] <TTilus> hawking: i did not ask if it was from repository or not  :)
[12:31] <aggressor> Sanne, ok whats next i must 2 open driver c ?
[12:31] <biella> hi, I upgraded to the latest ubuntu release, and now when I plug in my camera it doesn't pop up. I see the usb.agent does libgphoto2: loaded successfully, but nothing else?
[12:31] <globe> how do I set gnome to my default after installing kde?
[12:31] <TTilus> hawking: what was the package?
[12:31] <derkdsd> i think...
[12:31] <nekostar> eth42,
[12:31] <TTilus> hawking: (and is)
[12:31] <nekostar> nvidia-glx and nvidia-settings work great
[12:31] <Set> !mysql
[12:31] <ubotu> rumour has it, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:32] <nekostar> i find they work better than nv drivers
[12:32] <eth42> nekostar: but they are closed sorce
[12:32] <derkdsd> but my big problem is the sound, because i cant use amarok very whel
[12:32] <hawking> TTilus :well it's a turkish-eng dict file Ican give you the link but it's turkish :(lale.sourceforge.net
[12:32] <nekostar> eth42, sure they are
[12:32] <Sanne> aggressor, let's first test if wine works. Wine has set up some default applications that you can start with a single command. Try typing "notepad" in a terminal.
[12:32] <j2daosh> whats up
[12:32] <gimmulf> robotgeek:  done
[12:32] <j2daosh> having probs with my sound card again
[12:32] <nekostar> depends on how nazi u are on open/closed source stuff i suppose
[12:32] <j2daosh> what file do i need to mod again?
[12:32] <nekostar> but you dont have to pay for the driver or anything
[12:32] <eth42> nekostar: well not ber-nazi since i installed it today :-)
[12:32] <_joe_> i know this is ubuntu and not kubuntu, but does anyone know how to start the wizrad that asks you how to configure the appearance of K
[12:32] <nekostar> just owning the card is good
[12:32] <_joe_> DE and everything
[12:33] <nekostar> lmfao eth42
[12:33] <biella> I see in the device manager my camera, but how do I access it?
[12:33] <_joe_> , like whether it looks like windows/unix/mac
[12:33] <eth42> nekostar: s/ber/uber/
[12:33] <nekostar> hehe
[12:33] <derkdsd> for the sound, i cant use alsa or oss, only esd and doesnt work, i have nforce 3
[12:33] <aggressor> Sanne, Working
[12:33] <robotgeek> gimmulf: no, try logging in from the gdm menu
[12:33] <Sanne> aggressor, for fun, you can also try winemine ;)
[12:33] <nekostar> derkdsd, do you have a sound card?
[12:33] <nekostar> or is it just onboard
[12:33] <derkdsd> yes
[12:33] <derkdsd> in the motherboard
[12:33] <aggressor> Sanne, Mine game :D
[12:33] <derkdsd> nforce3 chipset
[12:33] <nekostar> one of the problems i had was that i had the onboard and the soundcard in at the same time
[12:34] <nekostar> oic ic
[12:34] <sri> aggressor
[12:34] <nekostar> is that the ac97 codec?
[12:34] <aggressor> sri, yes
[12:34] <TTilus> hawking: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-turkish/2005/04/msg00654.html
[12:34] <TTilus> hawking: that any help
[12:34] <derkdsd> i think nekostar
[12:34] <sri> aggressor: hey, you pinged me
[12:34] <derkdsd> yes
[12:34] <nekostar> there was stuff in the forums about that too
[12:34] <derkdsd> i supose
[12:34] <hawking> TTilus : lemme see
[12:34] <nbound> eth42, no go :(
[12:34] <TTilus> hawking: (cant tell myself, my turkish is "a bit" rusty)
[12:34] <gimmulf> robotgeek:  you have any idea howto do this without screen going black ctrl+alt+backspace it also freezes on the black screen then i have to reboot but when i've rebooted internet doesnt work so then i need to reboot one more time and then internet works :)
[12:34] <aggressor> sri, my mouse is fked up, that moves himself
[12:35] <eth42> nbound: what does it say?
[12:35] <Sanne> aggressor, neat, huh? So, I'm looking for a small app I can show you how to install, to let you get a feel for it. Hold on.
[12:35] <puff> Evening... I just installed mysql via apt. What's the default password?
[12:35] <hawking> Ttilus :Iknow
[12:35] <robotgeek> gimmulf: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:35] <eth42> nbound: any error message about missing codecs?
[12:35] <aggressor> Sanne, Thx d0d
[12:35] <calamari> anyone know if vfat support will remain in Ubuntu?
[12:35] <Set> !apache
[12:35] <ubotu> it has been said that apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[12:35] <star> looking for a good videio player any suggestions I am new at this
[12:36] <lsuactiafner> calamari : its linux kernel supported
[12:36] <nbound> no... but there wasnt before for the movies neither
[12:36] <ly> Is there a way to test if 3d acceleration is actually working? I get ~600 fps in glxgears and cedega system tests says 3d acceleration failed but i don't know if its just because of my slow gfxcard (geforce 2)
[12:36] <lsuactiafner> calamari : not ubuntu specific
[12:36] <lsuactiafner> calamari : and it will remain for years
[12:36] <Sanne> aggressor, in the meantime, try to browse your drive_c with a file manager, we will need that soon.
[12:36] <pinkisntwell> has anyone used the live cd to resize ntfs successfully?
[12:36] <_joe_> puff: no default password, just type mysql
[12:36] <nanaem> any partition app that comes with ubuntu?
[12:36] <lsuactiafner> nanaem : gparted
[12:36] <aggressor> Sanne, Like just looking around ?
[12:36] <calamari> lsuactiafner: hopefully.. but Ubuntu seems to strip things that are patented, like mp3
[12:36] <foresight> lowman62, there ?
[12:36] <eth42> nbound: what happens if you open the file
[12:37] <nbound> it plays with no sound
[12:37] <Sanne> aggressor, yeah, so you know where's what when we install stuff.
[12:37] <nbound> just video
[12:37] <nanaem> thank you
[12:37] <lsuactiafner> calamari : ubuntu strips packages, it doesnt modify the linux kernel source
[12:37] <aggressor> Sanne, k
[12:37] <calamari> lsuactiafner: okay cool
[12:37] <TTilus> hawking: that seems to be one way to go http://www.mailarchives.org/list/debian-user/msg/2005/14033
[12:37] <TTilus> hawking: find the broken part and fix it
[12:37] <calamari> I guess if it did, I could jsut recompile the kernel anyhow
[12:37] <insomnd> hi
[12:37] <eth42> nbound: what are you playing? movie with some video codec and mp3 audio? or just mp3 file?
[12:37] <TTilus> hawking: :D
[12:37] <cvt|kde> what happens if i dl a windows virus using wine?
[12:37] <cafuego> lsuactiafner: Well, actually...
[12:38] <lsuactiafner> calamari : ubuntu slackware mandrake all use the same linux kernel internals, ubuntu and other distributions only compile and add a bunch of packages thats runs on the operating system (linux)
[12:38] <heraclyde> hello tt le monde
[12:38] <hawking> TTilus :he said he installed menus package and it worked but my apt-get doesn't work
[12:38] <insomnd> how can i scan a range of IP addresses for the same port? I am trying to find a specific host that i know has a specific port open
[12:38] <nbound> just an mpeg movie
[12:38] <nekohayo> heraclyde: va dans #ubuntu-fr plutot
[12:38] <nbound> eth42, just an mpeg movie
[12:38] <lsuactiafner> cafuego : a patch or two
[12:38] <heraclyde> nekohayo : sorry
[12:38] <insomnd> does nmap have a wildcard or range-specification?
[12:38] <nbound> eth42, a music video to be more precise
[12:38] <nekohayo> hi people, how could I uninstall a manually installed nvidia driver? or should I just overwrite it with nvidia-glx?
[12:39] <eth42> nbound: do you have mpginfo installed (I think it is part of mpgtx)
[12:39] <nekohayo> heraclyde: ;-)
[12:39] <nbound> ummm ill check
[12:39] <lsuactiafner> nekohayo : exit X, sh --remove nvidia.package.run i think
[12:39] <Knorrie> insomnd: yes
[12:39] <nbound> eth42, installing now
[12:39] <eth42> nbound: mpginfo <file> will give you some information about the file
[12:39] <lsuactiafner> nekohayo : lsmod and rmmod nvidia
[12:39] <nekohayo> sh --remove ?! I didn't know that
[12:39] <lsuactiafner> nekohayo : should be enough
[12:39] <TTilus> hawking: theres another discussion on removing a broken package http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/1999/10/thrd2.html#00806
[12:40] <nekohayo> hmm
[12:40] <hawking> TTilus :don't you think this sucks?one package is broken and the whole system stops to work
[12:40] <eth42> nbound: and what does "Properties" in totem say about your file?
[12:40] <Knorrie> insomnd: see nmap --help and then the line starting with 'Example'
[12:40] <insomnd> Knorrie, yes
[12:40] <nekohayo> lsuactiafner: wouldn't apt-getting nvidia-glx do all that ?
[12:40] <lsuactiafner> nekohayo : sh nvidia.package.run --remove i meant
[12:40] <insomnd> Knorrie, i am reading the man page. I guess i can use * and a - b for ranges
[12:40] <Sanne> aggressor, I'm trying to install a program to see if it works. If it does, I'll show you.
[12:40] <insomnd> Knorrie, thanks
[12:41] <TTilus> hawking: i think thats exactly what should happen
[12:41] <lsuactiafner> nekohayo : i dont use the apt-get for nvidia or kernels so i dont know
[12:41] <Knorrie> insomnd: true, that'll work
[12:41] <calamari> cvt|kde: http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/01/25/1430222&from=rss
[12:41] <lsuactiafner> nekohayo : prefer to comepile my own things
[12:41] <aggressor> Sanne, ok
[12:41] <puff> _joe_: I tried that, this is mysql 4.1, btw.  It gets me in but  when I try "create database xyzzy" it says "Access denied"
[12:41] <ly> Is there a way to test if 3d acceleration is actually working? I get ~600 fps in glxgears and cedega system tests says 3d acceleration failed but i don't know if its just because of my slow gfxcard (geforce 2)
[12:41] <TTilus> hawking: if pkg manager doesnt know whats happening, it should not touch anything until somebody has fixed situation and pkg mgmt is on rails again
[12:41] <nekohayo> lsuactiafner: I just did --help, and it seems it is --uninstall
[12:42] <nbound> eth42, properties says for audio bitrate - N/A    Codec - MPEG layer 2/3
[12:42] <nekohayo> lsuactiafner: thanks for the insight :)
[12:42] <hawking> TTilus :yes true it just should show that something is broken.. it stops working too
[12:42] <TTilus> hawking: this is exactly why its pretty nice to stay on distros official packages
[12:42] <eth42> nbound: mhhh.... and mpginfo?
[12:42] <robotgeek>  /nick robotgeek_away
[12:42] <eliasz> hey all, im having a problem, just installed ubuntu for the first time, and apt wont work, i dunnno why, but when i was trying toinstall apt http durring install, it gave error, now when i try to do apt-get update i just get errors...what should i have in /etc/apt/sources?
[12:42] <robotgeek_away> sorry
[12:42] <cvt|kde> calamari, thx
[12:42] <lsuactiafner> nekohayo : btw i prefer the mozilla firefox binary, my own .config kernels and offical nvidia driver
[12:43] <lsuactiafner> nekohayo : because of past pains
[12:43] <nekohayo> what past pains?
[12:43] <eth42> nbound: you could also try playback with vlc and mplayer
[12:43] <TTilus> hawking: my point was that it (pkg mgmt) really _should_ stop working right the very moment when it becomes aware that theres somenthing off-the-rails
[12:43] <gthb> Good evening
[12:43] <Belagio> Hey folks,  I have a small problem. I have 'nivida.ko' in both /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
[12:43] <Belagio>  and /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/nvidia.ko
[12:43] <Belagio> , but modprobe always looks in the volatile directory for it, and that directory houses an incorrect version of the module. How do I tell it to pay attention to the non-volatile location?
[12:43] <biella> how can I browse my camera? I can see it with gphoto2, but I dont want commandline
[12:43] <ly> Anyone know?
[12:43] <hawking> Ttilus : yes but together with it it should give you an option to remove it
[12:44] <Sanne> aggressor, ok, we will install 7-zip, an archive manager for windows. Open a terminal and cd to somewhere in your drive_c where you want to download an install file to.
[12:44] <sri> aggressor: okay
[12:44] <AndyR> has anyone here compiled module ov518?
[12:44] <lsuactiafner> Belagio : exit x, lsmod ; rmmod nvidia insmod /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko and mv /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/nvidia.ko /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/nvidia.ko_BACKUP
[12:44] <gimmulf_> robotgeek_away: didnt restart :<
[12:44] <eliasz> hey all, im having a problem, just installed ubuntu for the first time, and apt wont work, i dunnno why, but when i was trying toinstall apt http durring install, it gave error, now when i try to do apt-get update i just get errors...what should i have in /etc/apt/sources?
[12:45] <aggressor> what means cd (comapct disk)??
[12:45] <Steve^> I just burnt and ran a copy of Ubuntu Live. Ran the partitioning thing (gparts I think) and resized my linux partition.  It said to reboot, I did. Nothing has changed. Ideas?
[12:45] <eliasz> aggressor, yes
[12:45] <nbound> eth42, heres the mpginfo output
[12:45] <aggressor> sanne,  what means cd (comapct disk)??
[12:45] <nbound>   Mpeg 1 System File [Video/Audio] 
[12:45] <nbound>   Muxrate : 1.41 Mbps
[12:45] <nbound>   Estimated Duration: 03:40.14s
[12:45] <nbound>   Size [352 x 240]      29.97 fps    1.15 Mbps
[12:45] <nbound>   Audio : Mpeg 1 layer 2
[12:45] <nbound>   224 kbps  44100 Hz
[12:45] <nbound>   Stereo,  No emphasis
[12:45] <TTilus> hawking: it should not if it cant be sure nothing else breaks with it too
[12:45] <Stormx2> aggressor: Yeah, and "cd" is also a linux command meaning "change directory"
[12:45] <Arafangion> Does ubuntu install lilo whenever grub cannot be used?
[12:45] <Sanne> aggressor, sorry, change directory. Something like: cd ~/.wine/drive_c
[12:45] <lsuactiafner> nbound : stfu
[12:45] <Arafangion> By default?
[12:45] <gimmulf_> I cant restart my GDM screen just go black and then i have to reboot by pressing the powerbutton :( any ideas?  its the /etc/init.d/gdm-restart im talking about
[12:45] <lsuactiafner> Arafangion : no
[12:45] <eth42> nbound: erm, don't paste here use pastebin
[12:46] <Belagio> lsu, do I need to run depmod at all?
[12:46] <hawking> TTilus :ok fine ... just rm -rf /when something like that happens .. really makes sense
[12:46] <lsuactiafner> nbound : dont paste shit
[12:46] <nbound> pastebin?
[12:46] <lsuactiafner> Belagio : doubt it
[12:46] <aggressor> Sanne,  this is difficult for me 2 i need 2 insert something or what :S
[12:46] <Arafangion> lsuactiafner: Actually... The next screen that just came up suggests it's installing lilo
[12:46] <lsuactiafner> pastebin
[12:46] <ly> ..
[12:46] <Belagio> lsu: simple fix, thanks for the information.
[12:46] <Stormx2> hawking: What are you trying to pull?
[12:46] <Set> !webmin
[12:46] <sklav> Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting
[12:46] <aggressor> Sanne, do**
[12:46] <nbound> eth42, pastebin?
[12:46] <Sanne> aggressor, do you have a terminal window open? Line gnome-terminal?
[12:46] <TTilus> hawking: i think you should go rant tha package maintainer  :)
[12:47] <Arafangion> lsuactiafner: So I guess it does.
[12:47] <eth42> nbound: see what sklav wrote. have you installed ffmpeg and libmad?
[12:47] <aggressor> Sanne, yes sure
[12:47] <amshake__> good evening folks!
[12:47] <hawking> Stormx2 :Ihave a broken package and Ican't remove it
[12:47] <TTilus> hawking: before (and after) doing that you could try to fix it
[12:47] <hawking> Stormx2:apt-get stopped working
[12:47] <Stormx2> hawking: Ah ha. What happens when you try to remove it?
[12:47] <lsuactiafner> Arafangion : cool, grub and lilo has never worked for me on an ubuntu install
[12:47] <avinoam> I'm running breezy, i tried emptying trash in gnome, the trash emptied, but i didn't get my hard disk space back :(
[12:47] <Sanne> aggressor, then type:  cd ~/.wine/drive_c
[12:47] <lsuactiafner> Arafangion : cant find the bug but been very annoyed by it
[12:47] <TTilus> hawking: find the script dpkg complains about and look inside
[12:47] <aggressor> Sanne, done
[12:47] <nbound> eth42, i had ffmpeg, installing libmad now
[12:48] <Sanne> aggressor, to see what's in there, type ls
[12:48] <lsuactiafner> nbound : install mplayer
[12:48] <eth42> nbound: and lame
[12:48] <avinoam> how does one forcefully empty trash in breezy?
[12:48] <Arafangion> lsuactiafner: Looks like I have to configure lilo manually (Doesn't detect my winxp installation, for dual-booting), but it does definetly boot the new installation.
[12:48] <hawking> Stormx2 : Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[12:48] <hawking>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[12:48] <aggressor> Sanne, aggressor@ubuntu:~/.wine/drive_c$
[12:48] <aggressor>  ls ?
[12:48] <amshake__> avinoam, look in the lost and found directory
[12:48] <nbound> eth42, problem solved with libmad
[12:48] <eth42> nbound: told you so before. :-)
[12:48] <nbound> eth42, thanks for helping me
[12:48] <Stormx2> hawking: What is the package?
[12:48] <eth42> nbound: np
[12:48] <aggressor> Sanne, done
[12:48] <avinoam> amshake__, where do i find that?
[12:48] <Sanne> aggressor, yes, just ls
[12:48] <lsuactiafner> nbound : and btw the ubuntu mplayer package sucks so much i hate it, also the CVS is very very good, i suggest you compie it
[12:48] <amshake__> avinoam, do a locate for lost+found
[12:48] <lsuactiafner> nbound : the package is 7 months old
[12:48] <eliasz> what should i have in /etc/apt/sources? can someone pastebin 1 that works for me?
[12:48] <Sanne> aggressor, you see the files and directories that are in the one you are now.
[12:49] <hawking> Stormx2 :it's a turkish-eng dictionary Iinstalled it as deb it's not in repos
[12:49] <Stormx2> !repos
[12:49] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:49] <Stormx2> eliasz, look up
[12:49] <nbound> lsuactiafner, i will do that then too
[12:49] <Stormx2> hawking: Ah
[12:49] <gimmulf_> !gdm
[12:49] <ubotu> gimmulf_: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[12:49] <Stormx2> hawking: Well, the package may not have downloaded correctly
[12:49] <avinoam> amshake__, i have a lost+found program....
[12:50] <Stormx2> hawking: Or it may be corrupt on the server
[12:50] <gimmulf_> I cant restart my GDM screen just go black and then i have to reboot by pressing the powerbutton :( any ideas?  its the /etc/init.d/gdm-restart im talking about
[12:50] <aggressor> Sanne, it tells Program Files  windows
[12:50] <Stormx2> hawking: Or maybe it was built for a much earlier version
[12:50] <nbound> heh, that even fixed mp3's in totem
[12:50] <eliasz> Stormx2, where?
[12:50] <aggressor> sanne, in terminal
[12:50] <globe> how do I make Gnome my default after installing KDE?
[12:50] <hawking> Stormx2 :yes but how can i remove it?
[12:50] <Stormx2> eliasz: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[12:50] <Sanne> aggressor, cool, now we make a folder to download some stuff into. Type: mkdir install
[12:50] <eliasz> thnx
[12:50] <avinoam> anyone know where lost+found is in breezy?
[12:50] <lsuactiafner> globe : read everything on the login screen
[12:51] <lsuactiafner> avinoam : on ALL linuxes inside /
[12:51] <aggressor> Sanne, done
[12:51] <Stormx2> hawking: Ah, remove it. Not sure. does apt-get remove -f whatever not work?
[12:51] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, my trash didn't empty
[12:51] <globe> lsuactiafner : not just the default after I login, but I want gnome to be able to process the login
[12:51] <Sanne> aggressor, now we go into that folder. Type: cd install
[12:51] <lsuactiafner> lost+found is where files are put when you have disk/file curruptions
[12:51] <lsuactiafner> its not trash
[12:51] <lsuactiafner> its not a recycle bin
[12:51] <aggressor> Sanne, yea done
[12:51] <hawking> Stormx2 :nope
[12:51] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, i know
[12:52] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, i tried emptying trash, trash emptied, but i didn't get my hard disk space back
[12:52] <Sanne> aggressor, do you have a middle mouse button?
[12:52] <Stormx2> hawking: Thats a bummber.
[12:52] <Stormx2> hawking: *bummer
[12:52] <hawking> Stormx2 :E: The package lale needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[12:52] <Stormx2> hawking: What about if you try and use synaptic?
[12:52] <cafuego> avinoam: lost+found is a directory in the root of all mounted partitions.
[12:52] <aggressor> Sanne, u mean roll ?
[12:52] <hawking> Stormx2 :synaptic? Idon't have it
[12:52] <lsuactiafner> avinoam : i dont use gnome or a gui really, cant help you
[12:52] <Sanne> aggressor, yes, you can also click that wheel, can you?
[12:52] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, i don't wanna use gui
[12:52] <Stormx2> hawking: Sure? Because it comes packaged with ubuntu
[12:52] <aggressor> Sanne, yes
[12:52] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, i'm trying to find it in terminal
[12:53] <hawking> Stormx2 :not with kubuntu
[12:53] <Stormx2> hawking: Ah
[12:53] <lsuactiafner> avinoam : <lsuactiafner> lost+found is where files are put when you have disk/file curruptions
[12:53] <Sanne> aggressor, ok, leave the terminal open. Go with a web browser to: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6976
[12:53] <hawking> Stormx2 :and adept can't remove it
[12:53] <trae> I know it's slightly off-topic, but does anyone here know about sharing wireless connections over distances of say 1/2 a mile or so?
[12:53] <lsuactiafner> avinoam : inside your /home/user there should be something
[12:53] <lsuactiafner> avinoam : i use mc to navigate files
[12:53] <khermans_> ANyone know how to install ImageMagick from CVS?
[12:53] <aggressor> sanne, done
[12:53] <Stormx2> hawking: well, you could either mess around with aptitude, or maybe install synaptic, not sure. Synaptic is pretty handy with broken packages
[12:54] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, i don't see anything :(
[12:54] <dickmc> I can print with every program but Gimp  Ubuntu Breezy w/ hp psc 2110
[12:54] <dickmc> any Ideas???
[12:54] <Sanne> aggressor, you should see a line beginning with "001 wget http://mesh.dl..."
[12:54] <Stormx2> dickmc: Change the printer setup in gimp
[12:54] <lsuactiafner> khermans : i would do apt-get build-dep ImageMagick and then consult the ImageMagick website DOCs or Download.html
[12:54] <hawking> Stormx2 :Ican't use apt-get to get any stuff.. so my only way is to compile it from source :/
[12:54] <lsuactiafner> avinoam : then it aint there
[12:54] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, it's a folder called lost+found? not hidden?
[12:54] <Stormx2> ack
[12:54] <aggressor> Sanne, yes now sudo apt-get install wget http://mesh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/sevenzip/7z432.exe ?
[12:54] <lsuactiafner> avinoam : type locate -i file     where file is what you are looking for
[12:54] <Stormx2> hawking: What does apt-get return?
[12:55] <Sanne> aggressor, no
[12:55] <hawking> Stormx2 :E: The package lale needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[12:55] <lsuactiafner> avinoam : if you mention lost+found again i'm going to ignore you
[12:55] <aggressor> Sanne, just wget http://mesh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/sevenzip/7z432.exe
[12:55] <lsuactiafner> avinoam : lost+found has nothing to do with your problem now drop it
[12:55] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, ok jeez
[12:55] <eth42> Seveas: the file I needed was /usr/share/mime/packages/freedesktop.org.xml. This one includes the association between "application/x-jar" and "Java archive". I'm a bit confused though why we need gnome-mime-data and shared-mime-info...
[12:55] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, whatever was in my trash- i attempted emptying trash
[12:55] <Stormx2> hawking: Tried using the force option?
[12:55] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, several big files
[12:56] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, is there a way to empty trash from command line?
[12:56] <lsuactiafner> ive told you twice and someone else has also, lost+found is file system errors that have been corrected and currupted
[12:56] <dickmc> the 2110 is not listed in the list   I don't know how to get Gimp to recognize printer
[12:56] <hawking> Stormx2 :several times
[12:56] <Sanne> aggressor, wget is a download program. You need to get this command into the terminal that you have open. You can select from "wget" up tp "7z432.exe" with your mouse, and then click with the middle button inside the terminal to paste.
[12:56] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, yes i understand that
[12:56] <Stormx2> avinoam: You could try something like "ls -rf .Trash*", and if it works correctly change "ls" to "rm"
[12:57] <Stormx2> I gotta go sleep now
[12:57] <alekandr> Anyone know how to check what users are currently logged in?
[12:57] <Stormx2> hawking: Ask on ubuntuforums.org
[12:57] <lsuactiafner> avinoam : i know nothing of trash and i think the recovered disk space was calculated before you emptied it, but i dont know and am going to bed now. never use a gui from now.
[12:57] <aggressor> Sanne, cant understand
[12:57] <TTilus> hawking: have you looked into fixing the pkg?
[12:57] <avinoam> anyone else know what to do if emptying trash doesn't recover hard disk space in gnome?
[12:57] <sz0r3n> hey anyone know how to fix the debootstrap error on the instal?
[12:57] <hawking> Ttilus :how?
[12:57] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, i've since refreshed
[12:57] <aggressor> Sanne, do i need just type wget
[12:58] <TTilus> hawking: if it really contains only couple of data files it should not be to bad
[12:58] <aggressor> Sanne, or wget http://mesh.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/sevenzip/7z432.exe
[12:58] <Stormx2> avinoam: Sure GNOME wasn't reporting your disk space minus the trash?
[12:58] <Sanne> aggressor, yes, the whole line
[12:58] <TTilus> hawking: look into that err mesg, it gave the name of script which was failing
[12:58] <aggressor> sanne, j
[12:58] <avinoam> Stormx2, i cntrl+backspaced, same thing
[12:58] <aggressor> sanne, k*
[12:58] <Sanne> aggressor, it will download the instller.
[12:58] <avinoam> Stormx2, i should have an extra 800MB
[12:58] <TTilus> hawking: find the script and look inside
[12:58] <aggressor> Sanne, installing
[12:59] <hawking> TTilus :lemme see
[12:59] <sz0r3n> hey anyone know how to fix the debootstrap error on the instal?
[12:59] <aggressor> Sanne, done
[12:59] <Sanne> aggressor, no, downloading. Installing come next ;)
[12:59] <TTilus> hawking: what it does and what looks like it should do instead  :)
[12:59] <aggressor> sanne, 01:59:08 (99.33 KB/s) - `7z432.exe' saved [840679/840679] 
[12:59] <Sanne> aggressor, ok, now you should have a file 7z432.exe in your install folder we just created. Check with ls.
[01:00] <aggressor> sanne, yes i have
[01:00] <aggressor> Sanne, now type that name and enter >
[01:00] <aggressor> sanne, ?
[01:00] <Sanne> aggressor, now we need to start the installer to actually install the program. In Windows, you doubleclick. In Linux, you tyoe: wine 7z432.exe
[01:01] <Sanne> aggressor, please be patient, I can't type lightning fast ;)
[01:01] <avinoam> anyone?
[01:01] <aggressor> sanne, now next ?
[01:01] <aggressor> sanne, c:\Program Files\7-Zip?
[01:01] <Sanne> aggressor, dies the installer start?
[01:02] <Sanne> ah
[01:02] <aggressor> Sanne, yes
[01:02] <Sanne> aggressor, you can install it there if you want.
[01:02] <lsuactiafner> avinoam : run sync
[01:02] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, as root?
[01:02] <aggressor> sanne, done
[01:03] <lsuactiafner> yeh
[01:03] <lsuactiafner> bed now
[01:03] <sz0r3n> hey anyone know how to fix the debootstrap error on the instal?
[01:03] <nbound> hmmm how can i install wine there is no wine package in synaptic...
[01:03] <xerxas> hi, is there any xargs or find master here ?
[01:03] <Sanne> now we need to go there in the terminal, so type: cd ../Program\ Files
[01:03] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, no good
[01:03] <foresight> !mp3
[01:03] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:04] <sz0r3n> hey anyone know how to fix the debootstrap error on the instal?
[01:04] <TTilus> hawking: i gotta go to sleep in a minute, what does it look like?
[01:04] <lsuactiafner> avinoam : am sure its gone, think you're just miscalculating something
[01:04] <theverant> how do I give myself privaliges to access NTFS mounts? Right now I have them mounted but I cannot view them unless I sudo
[01:04] <hawking> TTilus :I am lost
[01:04] <hawking> totally
[01:04] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, totally not
[01:04] <hawking> anyway thanks
[01:04] <luisito> Could I let a memo for anyone here in the freenode server?
[01:04] <Sanne> aggressor,  now we need to go there in the terminal, so type: cd ../Program\ Files
[01:04] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, says my empty space is 14.6mb
[01:04] <nbound> hmmm how can i install wine there is no wine package in synaptic... any ideas???
[01:04] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, i deleted a folder that was like 800MB
[01:04] <lsuactiafner> avinoam : run du -lhs inside your /home
[01:04] <aggressor> sanne, /home/aggressor/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/7-Zip/7z.exe
[01:05] <TTilus> hawking: what was the script, was there complete path on err?
[01:05] <TTilus> hawking: i think you should propably contact package author
[01:05] <Sanne> nbound, http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb
[01:05] <lsuactiafner> avinoam : then du -lh
[01:05] <TTilus> hawking: and at least file a bug report to their bts  :)
[01:05] <aggressor> sanne, wine: cannot find '/home/aggressor/.wine/drive_c/Program'
[01:06] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, still no good
[01:06] <Sanne> aggressor, there's a blank in Program Files. Youneed to "escape" that like this: Program\ Files
[01:06] <Sanne> aggressor, backslash before the blank
[01:06] <aggressor> k
[01:06] <TTilus> aggressor: or 'Program Files'
[01:06] <Set> !proc
[01:06] <ubotu> Set: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:06] <gthb> Can somebody put the file /etc/rc0.d/S35networking on a http server for me? :/
[01:06] <bimberi> nbound: wine is in the universe repository - do you have it enabled? - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - also theres...
[01:06] <lsuactiafner> avinoam : then you miscalcualted
[01:06] <bimberi> ubotu tell nbound about wine
[01:06] <TTilus> hawking: bye...
[01:07] <cityismine> has anyone given goowy mail a shot, is it better than gmail?
[01:07] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, dude, not possible
[01:07] <doza> hello
[01:07] <lsuactiafner> avinoam : du shouldve showed you everything there was and sizes
[01:07] <lsuactiafner> avinoam : du -lh | grep M
[01:07] <Sanne> aggressor, but cd just to the 7zip directory, don't do anything with any exe yet.
[01:07] <aggressor> sanne, do i need do rename folder ?
[01:07] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, i'm thinking that maybe it's an mplayer bug
[01:07] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, i was watching a .cue file, perhaps it didn't get released somehow?
[01:07] <Sanne> aggressor, no, better not do that. Escape the blank like I said. Do you understand?
[01:07] <Set> I am trying to upgrade webmin, but it asks for module "proc"
[01:08] <nbound> bimberi, that repository is already added :(
[01:08] <Mapionetka> i have a dilemma with permissions.
[01:08] <aggressor> Sanne, not realy
[01:08] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, that was it
[01:08] <Mapionetka> i have a user saying they cant modify a directory their group has access to
[01:08] <Mapionetka> any ideas
[01:08] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, i did killall mplayer and got my space back
[01:08] <lsuactiafner> avinoam : mplayer doesnt lock files
[01:08] <Sanne> aggressor, you need to put a backslash \ before a blank in a directory name
[01:09] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, so guess what?
[01:09] <Sanne> aggressor, type: cd /home/aggressor/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files
[01:09] <hyphenated> Mapionetka: huh? is the directory group-writeable?
[01:09] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, apparently with .cue files, it does, since it's not a regular media file
[01:09] <lsuactiafner> shoudl i really type what?
[01:09] <nbound> bimberi, i already had that repository enabled
[01:09] <aggressor> Sanne, like this ? cd /home/aggressor/.wine/drive_c/ProgramFiles/7-Zip/7z.exe
[01:09] <proj> repositories seem to be down?
[01:09] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, that is what did it. i refreshed every step of the way
[01:09] <lsuactiafner> next time do ps auxww | grep -i file also
[01:09] <aggressor> sanne, k
[01:10] <nbound> i get a whole heap of packages just not one called wine
[01:10] <Arafangion> How do I get my eth1 up again? (I changed dhcp settings)
[01:10] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, btw, there was still an mplayer process
[01:10] <zuverink> How easy is it to add a new video card in Ubuntu?
[01:10] <Mapionetka> hyphenated, thankyou i overlooked that
[01:10] <aggressor> sanne, now ? 7-Zip/7z.exe
[01:10] <avinoam> lsuactiafner, several actually
[01:10] <Mapionetka> next question. if a user makes a dir or file in that folder, how can i make it by default owned by the relevant group?
[01:10] <Arafangion> Merely restarting networking doesn't work.
[01:10] <Sanne> aggressor, patience!
[01:11] <aggressor> Sanne, sorri
[01:11] <Sanne> aggressor, where are you now? Which directory?
[01:11] <Psi-Jack> Alright. I upgraded to kernel 2.6.12-10, but now it can't find my root filesystem. I'm using ext3 for /boot, where grub is installed into as an active bootable partition. And / is xfs.. It works fine with -9, but -10 is giving me crap trying to mount the root filesystem.
[01:11] <aggressor> Sanne, aggressor@ubuntu:~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files$
[01:11] <hyphenated> Mapionetka: there's no easy way to achieve that
[01:11] <Sanne> aggressor, we need to go into the dir where 7zip was installed. Look for it with: ls
[01:11] <Mapionetka> :|
[01:12] <aggressor> k
[01:12] <Mapionetka> thats going to cause some rather large issues
[01:12] <aggressor> Sanne, 7-Zip
[01:12] <Psi-Jack> Anyone know what's going on with that?
[01:12] <Sanne> aggressor, ok, type: cd 7-Zip
[01:12] <Mapionetka> would a cron job every 10mins or so to set recursive permissions etc be acceptable?
[01:12] <aggressor> sanne, done
[01:12] <Psi-Jack> Mapionetka: Sure. Why not? Depends on how deep it goes.
[01:13] <Sanne> aggressor, also check with ls what's there.
[01:13] <Arafangion> How do I reload network devices?
[01:13] <Mapionetka> not very
[01:13] <Mapionetka> and the server doesnt do much else with its time
[01:13] <aggressor> sanne, 7zCon.sfx  7zG.exe    7zip_pad.xml  copying.txt   Formats      License.txt
[01:13] <aggressor> 7z.exe     7-zip.chm  7z.sfx        descript.ion  History.txt  readme.txt
[01:13] <aggressor> 7zFM.exe   7-zip.dll  Codecs        file_id.diz   Lang         Uninstall.exe
[01:13] <proj> synaptic seems to be having trouble downloading from http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com  --> is this related to the problems happening with the debian packages?
[01:13] <hyphenated> Mapionetka: unless your users are impatient, it's fine for small-ish numbers of files
[01:13] <Arafangion> Hello?
[01:13] <Mapionetka> is there a better way to do it?
[01:13] <hyphenated> Mapionetka: nope.
[01:14] <Sanne> aggressor, so there are more than one exes. I already checked, the file we need now is 7zFM.exe. So type: wine 7zFM.exe
[01:14] <Mapionetka> k
[01:14] <proj> is anyone else having trouble with this?
[01:14] <ssam> Mapionetka, a replacement to the umask system
[01:14] <aggressor> sanne, programm is running :P
[01:14] <proj> I can reach the repository it seems through http. but synaptic claims that it can't retrieve the packages
[01:14] <Sanne> aggressor, tada!! :)
[01:14] <Mapionetka> ssam, elaborate?
[01:15] <aggressor> sanne, with games is same thing?
[01:15] <ssam> Mapionetka, i think it would be sensible if new file inherited their ownership/permison from thier parent folder
[01:15] <Arafangion> How the heck do I enable the eth1? I don't want to do it manually.
[01:15] <Sanne> aggressor, that's how you do it, basically, but you should check if there's a howto for that game, often you have to do some more config to do.
[01:15] <foresight> I cant find the gstreamer0.8-mad file..trying to play MP3's ^^
[01:15] <LY^> Is there a way to test if 3d acceleration work 100 %? I get ~600 fps in glxgears with a geforce 2 and cedega says "Failed" when it tests 3d acceleration..
[01:15] <globe> how do I shutdown x server from terminal?
[01:16] <Mapionetka> true ssam
[01:16] <bimberi> nbound: ah, have you updated recently?
[01:16] <Mapionetka> next q. im a newbie, how the hell do i use cron :P
[01:16] <bimberi> globe: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[01:16] <Arafangion> Mapionetka: crontab -e
[01:16] <ssam> Mapionetka, currently new files just get you as owner and your umask permissions
[01:16] <cityismine> Hey, is fedora faster than debian?
[01:16] <aggressor> Sanne, thx m8, but with wine i can install games what are .tar.gz?
[01:16] <Psi-Jack> Mapionetka: man crontab
[01:16] <Sanne> aggressor, the points 4. and 5. from the howto you gave me is very useful, you might want to have a look at that.
[01:16] <Mapionetka> so i should be using crontab not cron?
[01:16] <globe> bimberi: thanks.  thats the one I was looking for.
[01:17] <bimberi> globe: np :)
[01:17] <Psi-Jack> Mapionetka: cron is the daemon, crontab manages the schedules.
[01:17] <aggressor> sanne, ok
[01:17] <Arafangion> Mapionetka: And man 5 crontab
[01:17] <Mapionetka> ok
[01:17] <Mapionetka> ty
[01:17] <ssam> Mapionetka, it might also fix the issue of copying files from a read only disk to your home folder and them being read only still
[01:17] <Sanne> aggressor, no, not tar.gz, that are source packages you would compile. Wine is for installing and running windows binary packages, already compiled for windows.
[01:17] <nbound> bimberi, yes ubuntu has
[01:17] <Xappe> LY^: glxinfo perhaps?
[01:17] <aggressor> sanne, ok
[01:17] <ssam> Mapionetka, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsabilityWishlist#head-e9b03c838047b98d5bac32a4042bfcac6abed815
[01:18] <Arafangion> Do I actually have to reboot just to get a network card up and running with dhcp?
[01:18] <bimberi> nbound: put your sources.list on the pastebin
[01:18] <Mapionetka> hehe. and the chances of it happening ssam :P
[01:18] <ssam> Arafangion, sudo ifup eth0
[01:18] <kemik> Arafangion:  no , you shouldnt have to
[01:18] <globe> Arafangion no
[01:18] <nbound> where is the pastebin?
[01:18] <khermans_> Can someone tell me why .bashrc would not be called when i log in via SSH, but it works after i type bash
[01:18] <globe> Arafangion sudo dhclient eth*
[01:18] <LY^> Xappe, how do i see if it works?
[01:18] <bimberi> !pastebin
[01:18] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:18] <Sanne> aggressor, have fun with wine. There's also a #winehq channel here on freenet, if you have specific wine questions.
[01:18] <Xappe> LY^: what graphics adapter do you have?
[01:19] <Arafangion> globe: I can't just do it via /etc/init.d/networking stop/start ?
[01:19] <LY^> Xappe, its a geforce 2
[01:19] <ssam> Mapionetka, it depends how progressive shuttleworth wants ubuntu to be
[01:19] <Mapionetka> yeah
[01:19] <Mapionetka> i assume cron can do anything root can?
[01:19] <proj> weird. I had to change the paths to the repositories
[01:19] <globe> Arafangion I think that starts /stops all networking
[01:19] <Arafangion> ssam: Is ifup an ubuntu convention?
[01:19] <_Otaku_> hi
[01:19] <Arafangion> globe: In this case, that's exactly what's happening.
[01:19] <_Otaku_> i suffer sever problems
[01:20] <ssam> Arafangion, posibly debian
[01:20] <aggressor> Sanne, u are very helpful one :D
[01:20] <_Otaku_> i am using command line based irc client even :S
[01:20] <globe> Arafangion oh...I thought you just wanted a NIC to fetch an IP
[01:20] <Arafangion> _Otaku_: *severe
[01:20] <Sanne> aggressor, you're welcome :)
[01:20] <ssam> Arafangion, there is also ifdown
[01:20] <_Otaku_> I think i messed up Xorg
[01:20] <_Otaku_> exactly @ Arafangion
[01:20] <nbound> bimberi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6977
[01:20] <Arafangion> ssam: On debian, I rarely use dhcp, and doing things via /etc/networking works fine, otherwise I just use route and ifconfig manually.
[01:20] <kemik> Mapionetka:  if it's added to root's crontab i guess
[01:20] <Xappe> LY^: hmm, I guess the direct rendering: Yes is what you are looking for
[01:21] <ssam> Arafangion, and sudo dhclient eth0 if you just want to do a dhcp request
[01:21] <Mapionetka> how do i make sure its added to roots crontab?
[01:21] <Arafangion> ssam: What I want to do is bring up the device exactly as if the system was rebooted, to confirm configuration.
[01:21] <Set> in ubuntu, where is apache defaul directory?
[01:21] <nbound> bimberi, i just enabled everything repository that was there
[01:21] <nbound> lol
[01:21] <_Otaku_> NDS? :S
[01:21] <_Otaku_> oops wrong window
[01:21] <ssam> Arafangion, ifup uses /etc/networking (i think its what the gnome network tools call internally)
[01:21] <gpled> what program do you like to burn iso cds with?
[01:22] <nbound> bimberi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6977
[01:22] <LY^> Xappe, it says yes in there. But dosen't ~600fps with a geforce 2 and a amd64 3500+ sound a bit low?
[01:22] <Arafangion> ssam: Debian uses /etc/network/interfaces
[01:22] <globe> how do I turn off the gdm @ login?
[01:22] <ssam> Arafangion, yes thats what ifup does
[01:23] <ssam> Arafangion, oops i meant ifup uses  /etc/network/interfaces
[01:23] <_Otaku_> can someone please help me somehow? After trying to install ATI graphics driver GDM doesn't start anymore
[01:23] <Arafangion> ssam: It appears that ubuntu does the same, however, I want to check that the init.d script does everything properly, one thing I did was change dhcp configurations in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[01:23] <bimberi> nbound: yep, looks ok.  Try a "sudo aptitude update"
[01:23] <_Otaku_> X is complaining about malicious config
[01:24] <Arafangion> _Otaku_: What is the error?
[01:24] <nbound> bimberi, done that
[01:24] <ssam> Arafangion, if you want to check the init.d script, then sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:24] <_Otaku_> Arafangion: good question, how do i find out?
[01:25] <Arafangion> _Otaku_: Well, let's start with why you think that "X is complaining about malicious config"?
[01:25] <Xappe> LY^: what does it say under "OpenGL vendor string" and so on? is it nvidia or vesa?
[01:25] <nbound> bimberi, still no wine package
[01:25] <LY^> Xappe, nvidia
[01:26] <Xappe> LY^: then I would guess that you have your drivers right, but I might be wrong...
[01:26] <_Otaku_> Arafangion: because my desktop doesn't start anymore
[01:26] <bimberi> nbound: um, i should have asked this aaaaages ago :/ - are you running i386?
[01:26] <nbound> no
[01:26] <Arafangion> ssam: It only says "Reconfiguring network interfaces", and the only interface I have as a consequence is lo
[01:26] <_Otaku_> i got a blue screen telling me something is wrong with configuration
[01:26] <nbound> x86_64
[01:26] <LY^> Xappe, you don't think 600 fps sound low?
[01:26] <bimberi> *smacks
[01:26] <Arafangion> ssam: And I have no errors in /var/log/ that I can find.
[01:26] <globe> _Otaku_: dpkg-reconfigure org.conf I think
[01:27] <Xappe> LY^: what's the flag for printing out fps with glxgears?
[01:27] <nbound> bimberi, i know other people whove had wine running on x64 though?
[01:27] <_Otaku_> hm, i tried that but that won't make it work
[01:27] <_Otaku_> at least not with the 3D drivers
[01:27] <LY^> Xappe, -printfps
[01:27] <bimberi> nbound: yes, but it requires special tweaking - no apt-get goodness to my knowledge
[01:27] <Set> where is the default www folder?
[01:27] <sexy_girl> http://neoh59.free.fr/sphpblog/images/mypic.exe    <--take look my sexy pic and dont forget vote for it
[01:27] <Xappe> LY^: ok, i'll check what I get with my radeon 9600 pro
[01:27] <nbound> bimberi, any idea how?
[01:28] <Nameeater> sexy_girl: die
[01:28] <Mr_Milenko> rofl
[01:28] <bimberi> nbound: try searching for 'wine amd64' on the ubuntuforums
[01:28] <nbound> thanx
[01:28] <_Otaku_> an exe in a ubuntu channel?
[01:28] <Nameeater> sexy_girl: tho this is realyl the wrong channel since most people here probably can't run .exe's
[01:28] <ardchoille> Set: it's usually at /var/www
[01:28] <LinuxMonk> sexy girl ur an idiot
[01:28] <theverant> how can I allow access to NTFS drives?  I can't seem to get regular read only access working... sudo can see them fine though
[01:28] <_Otaku_> i would have to get wine running first
[01:28] <Mr_Milenko> Its a bot
[01:28] <Mr_Milenko> idiot
[01:28] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[01:28] <bimberi> nbound: sorry, i should have asked that much earlier :)
[01:28] <Xappe> LY^: around 2800 for me
[01:28] <theverant> I also formatted a Ext3 and I can't access it but with sudo
[01:28] <theverant> :\
[01:28] <Mr_Milenko> and thanks for the file.. gonna submit it to Shadowserver.. see what we got here
[01:28] <Mr_Milenko> :)
[01:28] <ssam> Arafangion, does ifup bring the interface up?
[01:28] <Korupt> pft.... sexcopter
[01:29] <bimberi> quit just in time to stuff up the nick completion
[01:29] <_Otaku_> grrr... i'll use the old 2D driver although this command line client for irc is sexy
[01:29] <nalioth> i love infected windows boxen
[01:29] <Mr_Milenko> nalioth: can i ask you a favor..
[01:29] <Mr_Milenko> your on Linux correct?
[01:29] <Arafangion> ssam: Interestingly, it does.
[01:29] <Arafangion> ssam: But the rc.d scripts don't.
[01:29] <Mr_Milenko> download that file, bzip it.. and send it to me
[01:30] <Mr_Milenko> :D
[01:30] <nbound> bimberi, thanx for your help anyway :)
[01:30] <LY^> Xappe, maybe my pc just is that slow. Have to wait untill i get my other card back to get it running with more fps then.
[01:30] <LinuxMonk> i should download that and take it appart and reconfigure it to install linux on windows boxes
[01:30] <ssam> Arafangion, do you have auto eth0 (or what ever interface you want) in you /etc/network/interfaces
[01:31] <cafuego> !test
[01:31] <ubotu> Stop poking me!
[01:31] <bimberi> nbound: np - at least you've had your repository setup looked over :P
[01:31] <Arafangion> ssam: That's interesting, auto wasn't in there. I neglected to check that because it was setup and running before.
[01:32] <Arafangion> ssam: The installation should've set it up as auto, imho.
[01:32] <Mapionetka> just a question... can i modify bash to show a timestamp? like irc?
[01:32] <Arafangion> Mapionetka: Of course.
[01:32] <ssam> Arafangion, try it with auto
[01:32] <zotson> hello, I'm a linux noob, I can't find totem-xine, someone could help me plz ?
[01:32] <Mapionetka> link to howto or a poke in the right direction?
[01:32] <Arafangion> ssam: Yup, that did the trick, thanks :)
[01:32] <ssam> Arafangion, :-)
[01:33] <LinuxMonk> Mapionetka man pages for bash :)
[01:33] <Arafangion> ssam: Wierd that it wasn't already auto, though.
[01:33] <Otaku> there i am again, using old driver
[01:33] <ssam> Arafangion, i have found that if you start messing with that file it gets in a mess :-)
[01:33] <Otaku> but i want the new driver to work :(
[01:33] <buulian> anyone know of an aim client that runs in terminal?
[01:34] <CarlFK> buulian: yes... just a sec
[01:34] <ssam> Arafangion, if it were in xml i think it would be easier for config apps to cope with
[01:34] <Arafangion> ssam: I never edited that file.
[01:34] <Otaku> would the logs of the crash of X when i use the new driver help any of you to help me solve the driver problem? (damn what a sentence)
[01:34] <Arafangion> ssam: And I do not agree with that assertion of xml.
[01:35] <Arafangion> ssam: xml has it's advantages, but it is not suitable as a generic configuration format.
[01:35] <ssam> Arafangion, plain text files can be a pain to parse and edit if they get modified by a human
[01:35] <Arafangion> ssam: I have never had a problem with my other systems.
[01:36] <Arafangion> ssam: And it will be over my cold, dead body when I am forced to edit postfix, postgresql and bind9 via xml files only! :)
[01:36] <gimmulf> !opengl
[01:36] <ubotu> gimmulf: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:36] <gimmulf> !OpenGL
[01:36] <ubotu> gimmulf: Are you smoking crack?
[01:36] <CarlFK> buulian: http://sourceforge.net/projects/simpleaim
[01:36] <buulian> thanks!
[01:36] <Steve^> Hello
[01:37] <CarlFK> buulian: there are others... search sf.net for aim and console
[01:37] <ssam> Arafangion, if there a vim for xml then it would be easier
[01:37] <orfeu> !firefox1.5
[01:37] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:37] <nekostar> using cpan how can i fix a make: *** [pure_site_install]  Error 2 error?
[01:37] <ssam> Arafangion, xml can also be validated
[01:37] <Arafangion> ssam: xml is suitable when the configuration can be expressed in a purely hierachical mannar, but it gets very, very, very nasty quickly when the data is not hierchical.
[01:37] <CarlFK> what is the fstab or mount option for smbfs to allow users write access?
[01:37] <gimmulf> !fluxbox
[01:37] <ubotu> methinks fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[01:37] <Arafangion> ssam: And non-xml files are quite easy to parse, actually.
[01:37] <Steve^> I'm currently using a Live Ubuntu in an attempt to shrink my other linux partition so I can install Ubuntu for real.  Is it safe, and is it possible to unmount the linux swap partition so I can re-size the linux thing altogether?
[01:38] <HCl> can someone help me getting software suspend 2 support working? i can install the hibernate package, but when i try to run it it says my kernel doesn't support it..
[01:38] <Steve^> Firstly, I'd need root access
[01:38] <CarlFK> umask I think, but I can't remember what the parameters are... my guess is umask=777, but im affraid
[01:39] <Arafangion> ssam: Have you ever tried to make an xml schema for a validating xml file? It's not as easy as you think. Much easier to use more basic formats.
[01:39] <simak> I want to add a bonus path to .bashrc.  Do I use 'export PATH:"$PATH ... or _____?
[01:39] <Arafangion> ssam: And, imho, easier to  read and edit imho.
[01:39] <simak> !PATH
[01:39] <ubotu> simak: Are you on ritalin?
[01:40] <poningru_sleep> Steve^: what are you using?
[01:40] <ssam> Arafangion, if you like writing parsers, and keeping track of white space and comment that have been added
[01:40] <Arafangion> ssam: Those are very easy.
[01:40] <Steve^> poningru_sleep, what? What what?
[01:40] <CarlFK> simak: look in .bashrc or ./etc/profile for the lines that add ~/bin to the path if it exists
[01:40] <Arafangion> ssam: Incidentially, an XML file _still_ has to be parsed.
[01:40] <Steve^> poningru, oh, gparted, if that is what you mean
[01:40] <poningru> Steve^: yeah
[01:40] <simak> CarlFK, Yeah, I've done that.  I want ~/bin and ~/dir/dir/specialapps/bin
[01:40] <Moratorium> ahoy there
[01:41] <poningru> Steve^: yeah dude quite safe
[01:41] <ssam> Arafangion, but you just get a library to do it
[01:41] <CarlFK> simak: then do it like the ~/bin line ;)
[01:41] <Moratorium> I cant get ubuntu running on my laptop, can anyone help me out?
[01:41] <poningru> Moratorium: whats wrong?
[01:41] <Arafangion> ssam: Yes, but now we have to deal with schema's, validating and non-validating parsers, xml namespaces, and all that shit.
[01:41] <Steve^> poningru, the problem is: I tried re-sizing. At the end it said one of the changed things was busy and to reboot. I rebooted and nothing has happened
[01:41] <simak> CarlFK, I'm afraid to mess with the ~/bin thing because it's nested in some if statement.
[01:41] <a_monkey> thats a common problem Moratorium
[01:41] <luisito> hello
[01:41] <poningru> Steve^: hmm weird
[01:41] <Steve^> poningru,  I think I need to unmount the linux swap too?
[01:42] <poningru> yeah you do
[01:42] <ssam> Arafangion, apple use plist for all their config files, and ship a xml browser that you can use to edit any setting
[01:42] <poningru> wait
[01:42] <CarlFK> simak: where did you find the bin thing?
[01:42] <Steve^> what's the Live CD root password?
[01:42] <Moratorium> when I start up, it says it cant start the xserver and then goes to the comand prompt
[01:42] <poningru> Steve^: I am not sure about the umounting thing
[01:42] <Arafangion> ssam: Apple is an OpenStep system.
[01:42] <ssam> Arafangion, and then there is gconf
[01:42] <simak> .bash_profile
[01:42] <Steve^> hmm
[01:42] <poningru> Steve^: it doesnt have a password
[01:42] <simak> CarlFK, .bash_profile
[01:42] <Arafangion> ssam: gconf is more for the desktop than for servers.
[01:42] <Arafangion> ssam: Desktop and servers are entirely different beasts (imho)
[01:43] <Steve^> poningru, well, other than umount it.. what can I do?
[01:43] <simak> CarlFK, if [ -d ~/bin ]  ; then
[01:43] <simak>     PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"
[01:43] <simak> fi
[01:43] <CarlFK> simak: PATH=~/dir/dir/specialapps/bin:"${PATH}"
[01:43] <simak> CarlFK, does this append or overwrite?
[01:43] <Moratorium> and it tells me nothing about whats wrong
[01:43] <Arafangion> ssam: When I do configuration files for my programs, I just do it in option = value <newline> format.
[01:43] <fanopnaic> Seveas: I am not really sure whether this is your turf, but the contents-pages on mirror2?.ubuntulinux.nl are broken (403)
[01:43] <luisito> I have a hardisk in the IDE0 as master but when I try to mount it the command tells me that hda doesn't exists
[01:43] <CarlFK> Arafangion: desktops are normaly flat and wide, servers are normally towers?
[01:44] <Arafangion> CarlFK: :)
[01:44] <poningru> Steve^: yeah try it
[01:44] <luisito> what should be?
[01:44] <luisito> what could be?
[01:44] <CarlFK> simak: it appens it to the begging
[01:44] <CarlFK> simak: so I guees it prepends it
[01:44] <poningru> luisito: how are you trying to mount it?
[01:44] <poningru> whats the command you are using?
[01:44] <Steve^> poningru, I'm guessing it is 'umount /dev'   as all the hdas are /dev/something?
[01:44] <simak> CarlFK, okay will test.  Thanks for being patient w/ me.  You are really nice.
[01:44] <Moratorium> anybody got any tips?
[01:44] <Arafangion> ssam: And it's unbelievably easy to parse (Just an import and that's it)
[01:44] <luisito> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda /home/luisito/Desktop/disco
[01:44] <ssam> Arafangion, i do the same, but it feels very delecate, and you have to write a fair bit of code to do that
[01:44] <AlinuxOS> hello someone uses PPC-Ubuntu version? or has Apple keyboard
[01:45] <luisito> poningru, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda /home/luisito/Desktop/disco
[01:45] <Arafangion> ssam: No, you don't.
[01:45] <poningru> Steve^: oh I am not sure about that
[01:45] <CarlFK> simak: your welcome.  quick note: "${PATH}" is the existing path wtih " " around it
[01:45] <ssam> AlinuxOS, yes
[01:45] <Arafangion> ssam: If you're not using scripting languages, you have to write a parser, but the parser can be very simple.
[01:45] <CarlFK> simak: collen is what you use to seperate dirs in the path
[01:45] <navarone> luisito..try mounting in in /media
[01:45] <simak> CarlFK, for reference, what tells it to append or prepend?
[01:45] <AlinuxOS> ssam, I don't know why some of buttons dosen't work for me...
[01:45] <Steve^> poningru, my mount list, if it helps:  http://pastebin.com/501778
[01:46] <Arafangion> ssam: How would you feel if vim used an xml configuration file?
[01:46] <CarlFK> simak: easy:  in PATH=~/dir/dir/specialapps/bin:"${PATH}"  - is dir/dir... before or after "${PATH}" ?
[01:46] <AlinuxOS> even then I choose mac keboard driver
[01:46] <ssam> Arafangion, is there a good library anywhere for just getting and setting keyword pairs from a file
[01:46] <simak> CarlFK, no I meant append vs. overwrite
[01:46] <ssam> AlinuxOS, which ones
[01:47] <luisito> navarone, but it tells me hda doesn't exists
[01:47] <poningru> Steve^: dont umount /dev I dont know whether that will have the correct effect
[01:47] <AlinuxOS> new external keyboard (iMac bundle)
[01:47] <CarlFK> simak: yer missing it.   PATH= means "here is a new path"  and the new path is all the other stuff: dir/dir *and the original path*
[01:47] <ssam> AlinuxOS, sorry, i meant which keys dont work :-)
[01:47] <navarone> luisito try command "fdisk -l" in terminal and see what it says
[01:47] <Steve^> Looking in GParted, /dev/hda5 is currently Active
[01:47] <Steve^> Which makes hd3 active, which probably means I can't resize it
[01:47] <AlinuxOS> F13 F14 F15 F16
[01:48] <poningru> Steve^: then umount only that
[01:48] <simak> CarlFK, is it the brackets {} that mean 'insert orrignal path'  ?
[01:48] <ssam> Arafangion, i have not messed with the vim config file
[01:48] <Moratorium> help please someone?
[01:48] <CarlFK> simak: close.  $(var) means "use the current value of var"
[01:48] <AlinuxOS> Keyboard Shortcurts - of gnome can't assign them for example: screenshot etc...
[01:48] <Steve^> umount: /dev/hda5 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[01:48] <rafal> hello
[01:48] <Moratorium> Im rather stranded
[01:48] <Arafangion> ssam: In my case, I just import the file, as I tend to do it in python. In any case, all I do if it were in C, would be to: (1) Read all lines, ignoring anything after a # (Unless it is in a quoted string), and ignoring empty lines, and squash whitespace, (2) Put everything to the left of '=' into a hash, and everything to the right of '=' as the value (Perhaps using a struct)
[01:48] <poningru> you have to find out where it is mounted
[01:48] <poningru> its not mounted in /dev
[01:48] <poningru> hold on
[01:49] <trinidad> what is a good application to format a partition after ubuntu is already installed?
[01:49] <Arafangion> ssam: Well, if you did, you'd know that it is very logical, almost verbatim as to what you type in a regular session.
[01:49] <navarone> trinidad...gparted
[01:49] <ssam> AlinuxOS, i have a powerbook so mine only go up to F12. you could look up a tutoial on changing keymaps. or file a bug
[01:49] <simak> CarlFK, $VAR  not necessarily with the () means 'use the current var', right?
[01:49] <luisito> navarone, this is strange, only /hda/sda1 is shown
[01:49] <poningru> Steve^: its /tmp I think
[01:49] <rafal> odbc dont working - some suggestions?
[01:49] <flodine> can someone tell me if ubuntu will work with a intel 955 chip dual core?
[01:49] <simak> CarlFK, the language this is in .... is it bash script?
[01:49] <AlinuxOS> ssam, which tutorial?
[01:49] <flodine> help
[01:49] <poningru> flodine: ofcourse
[01:49] <bimberi> Moratorium: try logging in and running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", answer the questions as best you can (the defaults can be pretty good), once finished - "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start"
[01:49] <Steve^> poningru, so,  'umount /tmp'?
[01:50] <poningru> Steve^: yep
[01:50] <CarlFK> simak: WHOOPS!   I got confused.  ${var} isn't $(var)... yes.  bash
[01:50] <Eugman> Hey can something like ubuntu lite or xbuntu work on an old millenium comp?
[01:50] <ssam> AlinuxOS, i think there is one on the ubuntu wiki somewhere
[01:50] <Steve^> poningru, only root can umount it. I need a root password for super user?
[01:50] <orfeu> how can i install firefox 1.5 from testing repositories
[01:50] <orfeu> ?
[01:50] <navarone> Steve sudo
[01:50] <Moratorium> thank you bimberi
[01:50] <poningru> Steve^: just go sudo umount /tmp
[01:50] <simak> CarlFK, are the braces part of the deal, or juest the $ dollar sign for 'insert current var'
[01:50] <poningru> !tell orfeu about firefox1.54
[01:50] <bimberi> Moratorium: np, hope it helps :)
[01:50] <poningru> !tell orfeu about firefox1.5
[01:51] <AlinuxOS> ssam, link me if you can...
[01:51] <CarlFK> simak: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
[01:51] <Arafangion> Eugman: What is an "old millenium comp"?
[01:51] <CarlFK> simak: "both"
[01:51] <Steve^> umount: /tmp: device is busy
[01:51] <Steve^> :(
[01:51] <Mr_Milenko> simak: if i didnt know what you were talking about.. id say that line comes off a bit kinky if taken out of context
[01:51] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[01:51] <navarone> poningru...you made me think I had to upgrade again...<s>
[01:51] <simak> CarlFK, WHY DO I ALWAYS forget about TLDP????
[01:51] <poningru> Steve^: thats not it then hold on
[01:51] <Arafangion> ssam: Out of interest, what programming languages do you write in?
[01:51] <CarlFK> simak: there are old ways and new ways that do the same thign
[01:51] <rafal> odbc in ubuntu?
[01:51] <ssam> Arafangion, i'm mean more config files that you want to be modified by software
[01:52] <CarlFK> simak: cuz someone has too, and I finaly started remembering it, so it is your turn
[01:52] <Arafangion> ssam: /etc are intended to be modifed by teh admin.
[01:52] <poningru> navarone: ?
[01:52] <orfeu> how can i install testing applications from repostiories ?
[01:52] <poningru> Steve^: I dont think you can umount your swap
[01:52] <ssam> Arafangion, i am begining to use python, but i am not a heavy coder
[01:52] <navarone> poningru...you said ff1.54 first...i was like "whaaa...?"
[01:52] <poningru> try to use gparted again
[01:52] <Steve^> ok.. so is it impossible to shrink my partition?
[01:52] <poningru> navarone: rofl my bad
[01:52] <Arafangion> ssam: But this (imho) represents the biggest difference between a server and a desktop -- on a desktop, it is not practical to expect the user to edit configuration files.
[01:52] <poningru> actually 1.5.0.1 is coming out soon
[01:52] <Arafangion> ssam: I am a heavy coder :)
[01:52] <ssam> Arafangion, but you want gui config tools, and installer scripts to be able to edit /etc too
[01:53] <Arafangion> ssam: And in python, for your configuration files, I recommend you just use a python file, and read it as a regular python file.
[01:53] <luisito> navarone, it seems the MB doesn't detect the HD
[01:53] <poningru> luisito: mobo?
[01:53] <Arafangion> ssam: On a server, I loath gui config tools.
[01:54] <poningru> luisito: you might have a prob then
[01:54] <luisito> navarone, I'll shutdown and check connectioncs
[01:54] <navarone> luisito...are you using windows on same drive?
[01:54] <Steve^> poningru, I'll try it again then. Thanks for the help. If it doesn't work I'll post a thread on the forums and go play with windows or something :P
[01:54] <Arafangion> ssam: Also, installers merely have to cough up the file, not edit it.
[01:54] <npfet> anybody try counter-strike: source with cedega by chance? (just trying to gauge how well it would perform)
[01:54] <Eugman> I mean a computer that came with windows me when that was new
[01:54] <luisito> navarone, nope, the disk I'm trying to mount have windows
[01:55] <ssam> Arafangion, but you must have cases on the server where you do an upgrade and a new package has a new config file, and you have read through diffs to see what has happened
[01:55] <Arafangion> ssam: A perfect example of an inappropriate use of xml is probably /etc/fstab
[01:55] <theverant> t/quit
[01:55] <Arafangion> ssam: Yes.
[01:55] <navarone> luisito...maybe you can paste output of fdisk -l in pastebin so people can take a look and maybe offer advice
[01:55] <poningru> Steve^: I thought you already had linux
[01:55] <Arafangion> ssam: Usually only a couple of lines has changed (say, 3 lines)
[01:55] <_Otaku_> Arafangion: i think i found an error message :)
[01:55] <_Otaku_> Fatal server error:
[01:55] <_Otaku_> no screens found
[01:55] <Steve^> Well yes, SuSE
[01:56] <Arafangion> _Otaku_: Ok, you need to reconfigure X
[01:56] <_Otaku_> how?
[01:56] <luisito> navarone, It doesn't show any output, only showed the USB drive
[01:56] <_Otaku_> i used ati configuration script because i don't have a clue how it is configured
[01:56] <Arafangion> _Otaku_: Someone told you how a while ago, not sure what the "ubuntu" way is, and I don't feel like telling you how to edit the raw file.
[01:56] <ssam> Arafangion, but wouldn't it be better if the installer could just show you what had changes and let you yay or nay each change
[01:57] <navarone> luisito...are you using live cd? or have you installed ubuntu?
[01:57] <Steve^> bye
[01:57] <_Otaku_> i tried it that way, but it doesn't work :(
[01:57] <timfrost> _Otaku_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:57] <Arafangion> ssam: No, that would only work in the simplest of cases.
[01:57] <_Otaku_> i did that about 100 times, i don't know what i'm doing wrong
[01:57] <luisito> I have ubuntu installed on my slave disk "hdb"
[01:57] <_Otaku_> but i'll try again..
[01:58] <Arafangion> _Otaku_: What vid card do you have?
[01:58] <Set> !ubuntu-desktop
[01:58] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntu-desktop is A metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when ugprading
[01:58] <luisito> navarone, I have ubuntu installed on my slave disk "hdb"
[01:58] <_Otaku_> ati mobility radeon 9xxx
[01:58] <ssam> Arafangion, like "this no options has appeared, do you want it", "this has changed to that" etc
[01:58] <navarone> luisito...does fdisk -l show the hdb partiton?
[01:58] <Arafangion> ssam: This would be utterly useless for my bind9 configuration.
[01:58] <Arafangion> ssam: And besides, I prefer apt-listchanges for that.
[01:59] <timfrost> Steve^, I came in part-way through this.  Are you trying to resize existing partitions to add ubuntu?
[01:59] <luisito> navarone, no. Strange, don't u think?
[01:59] <Arafangion> ssam: One file I _DO_ agree should be in xml is the X11 configuration.
[01:59] <navarone> luisito..yeah you could say that
[02:00] <Arafangion> ssam: But... white-space delimeted files are the easiest files to parse - say, like /etc/fstab
[02:00] <ssam> Arafangion, if there was a well defined xml format, which had sections for local configuration then i think it could work (maybe i am a dreamer)
[02:00] <luisito> I'll shutdown now and check all this thing
[02:00] <Arafangion> ssam: There is a well defined xml format.
[02:00] <luisito> I'll be back in a moment
[02:00] <navarone> luisito  paste a copy of fstab into pastbin
[02:01] <Arafangion> ssam: It is however, more complicated than most people think it is, and a conforming xml parser must reject the file entirely if it is not valid.
[02:01] <Steve^> Heres a thought: Rebooting the kernel is included in rebooting the PC?
[02:01] <Arafangion> ssam: Take a look at your /etc/fstab
[02:01] <Steve^> It's not something special?
[02:02] <Arafangion> ssam: And consider how difficult an xml representation would be.
[02:02] <Okita> What repository do I have to enable to get w32codecs?
[02:02] <ssam> Arafangion, yes xorg.conf could benifit, it might make it easier for some gui apps to change settings
[02:02] <ssam> Arafangion, i mean well defined xml schema
[02:02] <timfrost> Steve^, yes a reboot of the PC reboots the kernel.
[02:02] <Steve^> damn
[02:02] <timfrost> Okita, multiverse
[02:03] <timfrost> Steve^, whats the problem?
[02:03] <Steve^> Shrinking the partition appears to go well, but when GParted refreshes its view, it goes back to how it was
[02:03] <luisito> navarone, here you have it  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6978
[02:03] <Steve^> timfrost, just trying to shrink my SuSE install
[02:03] <Steve^> (for ubuntu)
[02:03] <ssam> Arafangion, anyways i better be off to bed, nice to talk to you.
[02:03] <_Otaku_> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[02:03] <_Otaku_>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.200601120202
[02:03] <_Otaku_> at least it's backup'ed now
[02:03] <_Otaku_> ^^
[02:04] <Arafangion> ssam: I'd better get busy (Got uni stuff to organize), nice talking to you too.
[02:04] <timfrost> Steve^, what partition number is it?
[02:04] <Okita> timfrost: When i do, I get a bunch of 404 not founds
[02:04] <foresight> I cant find the gstreamer0.8-mad file..trying to play MP3's ^^
[02:04] <Steve^> timfrost,  physical hda3, with logical hda5 swap (which is active) and the hda5 reiserfs that I want to shrink
[02:05] <KeithWeisshar> are there addional software on the ubutnu dvd version that isn't on the cd version
[02:05] <navarone> !diskmounter
[02:06] <timfrost> OPkita, pastebin the output of 'sudo ap-get update', and pastebin sources.list
[02:06] <ubotu> from memory, diskmounter is to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[02:06] <luisito> I'll be back in a moment
[02:06] <navarone> luisito check out that url
[02:06] <timfrost> Steve^, hoow can you have TWO hda5 partitions?
[02:06] <KeithWeisshar> where can i get the package list for the cd and dvd version of ubuntu
[02:06] <Steve^> timfrost, typo :P    hda6 is the last one (to be shrunk)
[02:06] <navarone> Keith...packages.ubuntu.com I think
[02:07] <navarone> !packages
[02:07] <ubotu> You can browse the packages in the Ubuntu repositories from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:09] <lowman62> question: I just installed opera. When I fire it up it says that it could not start plugin operamotifwrapper please install Motif what exactly am I supposed to do?
[02:10] <navarone> lowman try a search for motif in synaptic
[02:10] <mwe> lowman62: there's wiki explaining what you need to install
[02:10] <Okita> timfrost: http://pastebin.com/501817
[02:10] <lowman62> okay thx navarone
[02:10] <mwe> !opera
[02:10] <ubotu> Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[02:10] <timfrost> Steve^, it sounds as if the FS in the partition has been shrunk, but not the logical partition.  Were you working from an instal CD?
[02:10] <majd> hey guys
[02:10] <Steve^> I'm working from the ubuntu Live CD
[02:10] <majd> i just got ubuntu
[02:10] <mwe> great
[02:10] <navarone> I am using Opera without installing any motif...but maybe packaged in the deb...I dunno
[02:10] <majd> i've had it installed for a full 4 minutes
[02:10] <majd> i like it a lot
[02:11] <Arafangion> majd: It is an impresive system, indeed.
[02:11] <majd> can i get some help installing x-chat though?
[02:11] <majd> i can't seem to figure it out, i dont even know what to get
[02:11] <Arafangion> majd: sudo apt-get install xchat
[02:11] <majd> the rpm or the tar, or whatever
[02:11] <lowman62> thank you  mwe
[02:11] <navarone> majd...you can install xchat in synaptic package manager
[02:12] <mwe> majd: use synaptic or the command line as Arafangion explained
[02:12] <Arafangion> majd: All debian derived distros use .deb, not .rpm
[02:12] <foresight> mp3
[02:12] <foresight> err
[02:12] <foresight> !mp3
[02:12] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:12] <arrinmurr> majd: doesn't ubuntu ship with xchat?
[02:12] <Arafangion> majd: But it is easier to just let the package system do the downloading for you.
[02:12] <majd> oh yeah
[02:12] <majd> it does
[02:12] <Arafangion> majd: Oh, and you will probably have to enable universe and multiverse
[02:12] <majd> wtf
[02:12] <_matej> hi, is there somewhere a list of all packages in standard repositories of Ubuntu -- one more Debian user who thinks about switch :-)
[02:12] <majd> i'm retarted
[02:12] <Arafangion> !universe
[02:12] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:12] <navarone> majd...first try to see if it is installed...Applications/Internet prob
[02:13] <mwe> !info xchat
[02:13] <ubotu> xchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.4.4-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 240 kB, Installed size: 664 kB
[02:13] <timfrost> Okita, dapper-backports doesn't exist.  (and won't until after the release on APril 20).  Comment those references out from sources.list.
[02:13] <majd> be right back
[02:13] <Arafangion> _matej: The .debs between debian and ubuntu is somewhat incompatible, so don't mix them - other than that, it's almost exactly the same.
[02:13] <Steve^> timfrost, any ideas?
[02:13] <Arafangion> _matej: I'm a debian user myself, and while I still prefer debian for servers, ubuntu is very nice imho.
[02:13] <rob1> how can I get a 686 compiler on my Breezy pc, instead of the 386 one?
[02:14] <_matej> I mean weird things like grass, R, qgis, etc.
[02:14] <Okita> timfrost: I thought something like that might be the case.  For future reference, where should I get the name of a multiverse repository?
[02:14] <majd_> hey
[02:14] <timfrost> Steve^, no clues.
[02:14] <majd_> yeah it works
[02:14] <majd_> thanks guys
[02:14] <Arafangion> rob1: What makes you say you have a 386 compiler only?
[02:14] <navarone> wn majd
[02:14] <navarone> wb*
[02:14] <Steve^> ok, I'll go back to SuSE and post on the forums
[02:14] <Steve^> thanks
[02:14] <ogra_ibook> _matej, packages.ubuntu.com ... and yes, we have all debian packages, even grass
[02:14] <mebaran151> gnomevfs opens my ssh shares readonly
[02:15] <mebaran151> I know I have write perm's because I can scp and sftp to them just fine
[02:15] <rob1> Arafangion, tring to distcc with a gentoo laptop that does have one, and getting an error message saying that it cant find a 686 compiler on the Ubuntu pc
[02:15] <LinuxMonk> majd_ please use a windows box, its better than the wall
[02:15] <mebaran151> what can I do to fix it
[02:15] <_matej> thanx
[02:15] <Arafangion> rob1: What is the full error?
[02:15] <_matej> /leave Good night!
[02:15] <mebaran151> rob1, did you apt-get build-essential
[02:15] <rob1> mebaran151, yes
[02:15] <rob1> Arafangion, http://rafb.net/paste/results/g6Fqis84.html
[02:15] <mebaran151> you have all the dev files you need
[02:16] <Arafangion> rob1: And what compiler are you using on gentoo?
[02:16] <majd_> ok, now here's where it gets sticky, how do i install my pocket pc to run on linux?
[02:16] <mebaran151> majd_, ... you can
[02:16] <mebaran151> but it would be a mess
[02:16] <mebaran151> I tried to do it to my Smartphone
[02:16] <mebaran151> it worked
[02:16] <rob1> Arafangion, 3.3.6, which I had to also install on ubuntu
[02:16] <mebaran151> but I couldn't make calls
[02:16] <majd_> weird
[02:16] <majd_> ok give me a minute, i'll do some research see what i come up with
[02:17] <navarone> what kind of install would you use for a pocketpc? a kiosk install?
[02:17] <rob1> Arafangion, chost is "i686-pc-linux-gnu"
[02:17] <Arafangion> rob1: I have never dealt with distcc, but it may be beneficial to setup a custom compiler, compile and install your own compiler which you then use to perform your distcc.
[02:17] <saotome_> i don't know if if this happned to anyone, or if i'll be able to explain it correctly...
[02:17] <majd_> navarone, i have no idea, i'm searchin www.aximsite.com
[02:18] <rob1> Arafangion, I was afraid of that, was hoping there was a package (which I can't find) :(
[02:18] <saotome_> in gnome, the mouse cursor, when it moves from position to position, has a big jump in pixels
[02:18] <ogra_ibook> majd_, www.handhelds.org
[02:18] <saotome_> if you move the mouse slowy you can see it "jumping"
[02:18] <saotome_> now, this is particularly annoying, when you are using apps that have a lot of small buttons, and you want to execute an option in particular
[02:18] <saotome_> anyone know how to regulate this?
[02:18] <Arafangion> rob1: If you were using only ubuntu systems, I suspect you could just use ubuntu compilers, but when you're mixing distros, I'd like to ensure that they are all setup properly.
[02:19] <navarone> saotome what type of mouse? usb...ps/2?
[02:19] <saotome_> it doesn't actually matter what hardware i use
[02:19] <saotome_> it's the same
[02:19] <saotome_> but i use a touchpad and a usb
[02:19] <navarone> laptop?
[02:19] <saotome_> yep
[02:19] <somerville32> Hi
[02:19] <saotome_> dell inspiron 6000
[02:19] <somerville32> What is a good CVS client for ubuntu?
[02:20] <majd_> anyone recommend wine?
[02:20] <Arafangion> somerville32: "cvs"
[02:20] <navarone> hmm...never used a laptop...<sigh> so no experience from me...
[02:20] <Arafangion> majd_: Yes.
[02:20] <timfrost> Okita, add universe and multiverse to the lines in sources.list that include main.  See http://pastebin.com/501828
[02:20] <saotome_> well
[02:20] <somerville32> Arafangion: You must have misread. I said _good_ cvs client :P
[02:20] <saotome_> i don't think this is hardware related
[02:20] <Arafangion> somerville32: THat *IS* a _good_ cvs client :)
[02:20] <saotome_> it's some kind of configuration inside gnome, X or something
[02:21] <Arafangion> somerville32: I prefer svn ;) Perhaps you need to define "good" ;)
[02:21] <saotome_> or just that gnome is like that and i have to accept it
[02:21] <somerville32> Arafangion: Pref. One that integrates into the file manager
[02:21] <navarone> soatome...what vidcard?
[02:21] <majd_> this is cool
[02:21] <majd_> http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/index.php
[02:21] <majd_> but it doesn't support windows mobile 5
[02:21] <saotome_> ati x300
[02:21] <majd_> so it's kind've pointless
[02:21] <_Otaku_> reconfigured xserver-xorg for the 1000st time, and i'm kind of getting tired of it
[02:21] <Frederick> folks anyone here had succes using a USB speed stream bodem?
[02:21] <Arafangion> somerville32: I have not found any that do so on linux :(
[02:22] <somerville32> Arafangion: Cerevisa or what ever it is does, I think
[02:22] <Frederick> *modem I meant
[02:22] <saotome_> Frederick: i have it, but use it through a regular lan
[02:22] <somerville32> Arafangion: But I think it is KDE
[02:22] <saotome_> Frederick: why would you want to use it through USB?
[02:22] <navarone> saotome could you copy and paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf into a pastebin plz for us to look at your configuration...?
[02:22] <Frederick> saotome_: what do you mean?
[02:22] <_Otaku_> it keeps saying no screen found
[02:22] <navarone> !pastebin
[02:22] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:22] <somerville32> Otatku: You might have to reconfigure the xserver
[02:22] <saotome_> Frederick folks anyone here had succes using a USB speed stream bodem?
[02:22] <saotome_> i have one of those
[02:22] <majd_> how's ubuntu pronounced?
[02:23] <majd_> oobuntoo?
[02:23] <majd_> or ooboontoo
[02:23] <Frederick> saotome_: hm 1 sec
[02:23] <_jason> ubotu, tell majd_ about pronounce
[02:23] <saotome_> LOL
[02:23] <majd_> or ubuntoo
[02:23] <majd_> !pronounce
[02:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, pronounce is how to pronounce 'ubuntu': "oo-BOON-too".  See http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/pronunciation for details.
[02:23] <saotome_> you are trying to find out ubuntu's proper pronunciation?
[02:23] <^majik^> majd_: I pronounce it as you-bun-too myself
[02:23] <majd_> yeah
[02:23] <Frederick> saotome_: thx a lot
[02:23] <saotome_> there's official documentation on the pronuciation?
[02:23] <Frederick> gtg
[02:23] <saotome_> hahahahahahahaha
[02:24] <majd_> lol
[02:24] <alekandr> Anyone care to give me a pointer on the following: running a cron job hourly, program path:  perl /usr/local/yuis.pl ( and how to add it, do i just type it as is in the cron file? if there is one )
[02:24] <saotome_> that's what i love about spanish, everything has one way of being pronounced
[02:24] <majd_> i think you-bun-too sounds best
[02:24] <saotome_> na, i don't like that one
[02:24] <saotome_> actually laughed out loud when my cousin saw my computer booting and said that
[02:24] <timfrost> alekandr, as what user?
[02:25] <navarone> luisito   check this url...
[02:25] <FarmerTom> Would I gain murh from compressing (.gz) a tarball filled with mp3s?
[02:25] <navarone> !diskmounter
[02:25] <ubotu> I guess diskmounter is to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[02:25] <DoskeyNeT> o.id
[02:25] <slew> !repositories
[02:25] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:25] <saotome_> well, it seams my topic is lost, so i'm out of here
[02:25] <saotome_> see ya guys
[02:25] <alekandr> timfrost: myself, i gave myself chown permission for everything that it updates, so its fine if im the user
[02:26] <somerville32> Come back soon!
[02:26] <slew> !easysource
[02:26] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:26] <arrinmurr> FarmerTom: probably not, but you can always try
[02:26] <manny> i am trying to install the VIA unichrome drivers, in order to do that i need to run the command "make LINUXDIR=/usr/src/<kernel> DRM_MODULES=via" yet the src folder is empty, so how do i fix this, my best guess is to install the source how would i go bout doing this ?? any help is appreciated
[02:26] <FarmerTom> arrinmurr, me thinks its not worth the time
[02:26] <luisito> navarone, I have it thank you. It seems the cable of the disk was bad connected.
[02:26] <navarone> ahh
[02:27] <luisito> navarone, but now I can mount it but can't view the contents of the directory :/
[02:27] <arrinmurr> FarmerTom: yeah, usually the size will be almost exactly the same
[02:27] <timfrost> alekandr, run crontab -e.  Add a line '0 *  * * *  perl /usr/local/yuis.pl'.  Save the file.   The job should run on the hour everey hour
[02:28] <nelposto> ahhhh, the console is hurting my feelings :'( :'(, anyone able to help?
[02:28] <navarone> luisito what command did you use to mount drive?
[02:28] <luisito> navarone, sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /home/luisito/Desktop/disco
[02:28] <FarmerTom> How can I 'sync' a tarball with a directory? When I made the original tarball (about an hour ago) some files did not go in, but I do not know which they are.
[02:29] <luisito> navarone, I also did sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/disco/
[02:29] <navarone> luisito...I dunno...but maybe try mounting in /media...maybe mounting in home directory causes probs
[02:29] <navarone> ahh
[02:30] <luisito> navarone, I don't understand why It keeps telling me those things, I have done it before and worked great
[02:30] <nelposto> I'm having problems with compiliing new kernels that wont listen to the 'vga=xxx' part of their boot line
[02:31] <luisito> navarone, in hd and live cd versions
[02:31] <nelposto> I know there's an option that I have to set when makeing menuconfig / xconfig, but I have no idea which .. any ideas?
[02:32] <navarone> luisito you can get the drive to automount if you like...typw !diskmounter and go to url ubotu provides. You can dl a script that will edit your fstab and provide automounting. I have used twice and no probs
[02:32] <alekandr> timfrost: with the ' 's?
[02:33] <navarone> luisito...script will probablt give correct options to allow write and such as well...although not for an ntfs drive
[02:34] <timfrost> alekandr, no just what is between them.
[02:34] <Okita> timfrost: I have more packages now, but still not w32codecs or libdvdcss
[02:35] <timfrost> Okita, are you sure they are available for dapper?
[02:35] <alekandr> timfrost: how do i save in nano, never used it, normally use vim or gedit :/
[02:35] <timfrost> alekandr, CTRL-O to write, CTRL-X to exit
[02:36] <navarone> alekandr, ctrl-x and then "y" to save I think
[02:36] <Okita> timfrost: I guess not?  My alternative is to download .debs and install them somehow?
[02:36] <alekandr> timfrost: what am i saving the file as, at the moment its in /tmp/
[02:36] <timfrost> Okita. or go back to breezy
[02:36] <luisito> navarone, now I did it with diskmounter and it worked.
[02:36] <navarone> luisito...woot
[02:37] <timfrost> alkandr, crontab -e will copy the file from /tmp/ to the correct place
[02:37] <qwe> greetings. seasoned linux user here, but new to ubuntu. question 1: how do i disable screen's 'splash screen'?
[02:37] <yanis> holle
[02:37] <navarone> luisito..ain't technology great...? :)
[02:37] <yanis> hello
[02:37] <Okita> timfrost: You mean repositories?  I need Dapper for various reasons
[02:37] <yanis> does a user have read access to other home folders by default?
[02:38] <navarone> yanis I wouldn't think so
[02:38] <Foller> hey... i'm a beginner in linux, and i'm having problems to configure my dsl connection(modem = speedstream 5200, thru usb). any help?
[02:38] <ubuntu> me2
[02:38] <MacSlow> Is it possible that the flight-2 ISO-image for i386 is corrupt?
[02:38] <Mitja> qwe: you mean the nVIDIA one?
[02:39] <ubuntu> i really like this though
[02:39] <insomnd> hi, how can i broadcast a computer's IP address to say a specific IP address? or maybe an email?
[02:39] <Determinist> Foller, if you have any way to use that modem using ethernet, do so
[02:39] <qwe> Mitja: no, I mean the splash screen you get when you run "screen"
[02:39] <yanis> navarone: if the last byte is read it's refers to the others group right?
[02:39] <navarone> Foller> I used a usb modem in my Mandrake days and had to give up...I would get a cheap ethernet card and use that if you can...you can still use usb just plug it into the rj jacks
[02:39] <MacSlow> The md5sum was ok, but during the install the base-install totally failed
[02:40] <qwe> also, my cpu starts up stepped down to 800mhz, and it won't let me raise it back up... no errors, but no effect either
[02:40] <Foller> Determinist - why? ubuntu doesnt support usb?
[02:40] <Determinist> navarone, plug the usb into the RJ jacks? :)
[02:40] <navarone> Foller...still use the usb modem I meant...<s> but thru ethernet connection
[02:40] <dr3wster> does anyone here know how to get rhythmbox to automatically update my music library?
[02:40] <Determinist> Foller, it does, dont go there. take my advice here.
[02:40] <luisito> navarone, but now I'm intrigued why it didn't work?
[02:40] <navarone> Determinist...I caught myself...lol
[02:41] <ajmitch> Determinist: why do you suggest that? I've got a (different) usb dsl modem working :)
[02:41] <ajmitch> yes, ethernet would be much easier
[02:41] <Foller> why not use usb? in fact i have an spare ethernet card here, but i don't have a cable.
[02:41] <ubuntu> i cant get linux to run on my new comp it starts fine on this old one but when i try and run the live disk on my new dell it says  something is wrong with x server does anyone know what the problem could be
[02:41] <Determinist> ajmitch, hell mate, please make a usb adsl topic on the wiki then on how you've managed to do that
[02:41] <mike__> hi somebady talk spanish??
[02:41] <ajmitch> Determinist: it depends on the modem
[02:41] <alekandr> How do you turn overtype OFF in gedit?
[02:41] <Kyral> mike__: #ubuntu-es
[02:41] <Determinist> ajmitch, i suppose, yes
[02:41] <navarone> Foller...you can try to use usb...but I prefer path of least resistance...ethernet is pretty much guaranteed to work
[02:42] <BxL> !es
[02:42] <Kyral> alekandr: hit the Insert key?
[02:42] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:42] <mike__> thanks
[02:42] <ajmitch> Determinist: since this modem I have has drivers in the kernel
[02:42] <Determinist> ajmitch, but having an ubuntu dsl modem knowledge base can be nice
[02:42] <Ophiocus> alekandr, press the insert key to the right of the main keys on your keyboard
[02:42] <ubuntu> me?
[02:42] <nbound> how do i format a drive (such as a memory stick) in ubuntu???
[02:42] <alekandr> Kyral: Cheers buddy, :] 
[02:42] <qwe> ubuntu: lame nick yo
[02:43] <dr3wster> how do I make rhythmbox update my library? there has to be _some_ way to do that
[02:43] <trkorecky> How is the latest SuSE in comparison to Ubuntu?
[02:43] <timfrost> Okita, I just checked breezy. I have w32codecs installed, but apt-cache policy doesn't show a repository
[02:43] <Determinist> ubuntu, doesnt xchat drive you mad blinking red with that nick of yours? lol
[02:43] <Mr_Milenko> qwe: lame flame bro
[02:43] <timfrost> !w32codecs
[02:43] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[02:43] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[02:43] <qwe> Mr_Milenko: :)
[02:43] <qwe> Mr_Milenko: well, he's going to get a highlight whenever anyone says "ubuntu", so yeah, it's lame
[02:44] <Determinist> ajmitch, erm, well... did ubuntu recognize your modem as an ethernet device and you just had to add it to interfaces?
[02:44] <LordMelkor> Is it possible to install software meant for OS X on ubuntu?
[02:44] <nbound> how do i format a drive (such as a memory stick) in ubuntu??? any idea???
[02:44] <timfrost> Okito, look at http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s - that may be the answer
[02:44] <matthewjames> can someone help me with partitioning?
[02:44] <Foller> navarone - so it would be hard to use usb on ubuntu? how much harder? :P
[02:44] <qwe> nbound: figure out the corresponding entry in /dev and mkfs on it
[02:44] <nbound> qwe, thanx
[02:44] <ajmitch> Determinist: no, we use pppoa here :)
[02:44] <matthewjames> can someone help me with partitioning?
[02:45] <qwe> nbound: usually /dev/sd*, but be careful if you have scsi or sata drives
[02:45] <LordMelkor> Is it possible to install software meant for OS X on ubuntu??
[02:45] <nbound> qwe, i have 1 sata hdd
[02:45] <Determinist> ajmitch, hmmm, i'm not too familiar with DSL , i'm an RF cable modem and IPVPN solution guy at the local cable company so DSL is foreign to me.
[02:45] <Mr_Milenko> no LordMelkor
[02:45] <navarone> Foller> I dunno to be honest...I just know that I was unable to get Mandrake to play ball with usb...like 2 years ago. I dunno if it has improved lately...plus it depends on the modem make and if the manufacturer has Linux drivers available
[02:45] <bimberi> LordMelkor: no (not binaries)
[02:45] <qwe> nbound: what is it? /dev/sda?
[02:45] <Mr_Milenko> unless you install PearPC
[02:45] <Mr_Milenko> its an Emulator of sorts
[02:45] <nbound> qwe, yep
[02:45] <matthewjames> can someone help me with partitioning?
[02:46] <qwe> nbound: the usb drive will probably show up as /dev/sdb then
[02:46] <Kyral> matthewjames: what about it?
[02:46] <matthewjames> just a quick question
[02:46] <nbound> qwe, thx again
[02:46] <Mr_Milenko> if you can find the source of the application it may be possible to port it to linux :)
[02:46] <qwe> matthewjames: just ask it
[02:46] <matthewjames> all i have to make is 1 partitian riht?
[02:46] <Kyral> matthewjames: two, / and swap
[02:46] <LordMelkor> is pear better at emulating mac than wine is at emulating windows?
[02:46] <qwe> nbound: np
[02:46] <Kyral> matthewjames: if you make the free area, the partitioner will do the rest
[02:46] <navarone> matthewjames, you need a / partition and a swap one at minimum
[02:46] <acad> what is the best way to integrate ubuntu in a windows network where active directory is used?  and what do you need to get the windows 'personal space //server/users/username' to be the home directory?
[02:47] <qwe> matthewjames: I recommend making /home a seperate partition, in case you nuke your / by accident
[02:47] <qwe> matthewjames: I learned to do that the hard way
[02:47] <Determinist> Foller, you can try and check if your modem has drivers... just google for it or check the ubuntu hardware database or something.
[02:47] <Kyral> seperate /home is VERY nice
[02:47] <matthewjames> que lets private chat for a min
[02:47] <somerville32> acad: Thats a bit question. Go hire IBM to answer it :P
[02:47] <qwe> matthewjames: sure
[02:47] <matthewjames> qwe*
[02:47] <arrinmurr> LordMelkor: what osx app do you need? are you sure there's no good linux alternative?
[02:47] <matthewjames> k
[02:47] <Paradosso> hi everybody
[02:47] <Paradosso> is there any good tutorial on how to install lm-sensors under breezy?
[02:47] <LordMelkor> arrin i wanna install ipod updater software
[02:48] <Kyral> Paradosso: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[02:48] <nbound> qwe, sdb wont display whats in it in nautilus is it still the right thing? also is there a command to format to FAT
[02:48] <Mr_Milenko> Short story: Make three partitions a root partition ( / ) a swap partition, and a partition used as your home directory
[02:48] <matthewjames> k, accept qwe
[02:48] <qwe> matthewjames: not dcc you fool
[02:48] <qwe> matthewjames: just /msg me
[02:48] <Mr_Milenko> nbound: if you ever used partition magic, i suggest getting gparted.. its nice
[02:48] <Kyral> qwe: no calling people "fool"
[02:48] <matthewjames> how, lol
[02:49] <Mr_Milenko> yeah fool
[02:49] <qwe> Kyral: haha ok, wasn't entirely serious ;)
[02:49] <paulproteus> lol, Mr_Milenko (-:
[02:49] <Kyral> qwe: I know, but others may not
[02:49] <qwe> matthewjames: /msg qwe <message>
[02:49] <qwe> dcc is a pain in the butt
[02:49] <qwe> so, no screen users in here, eh?
[02:50] <arrinmurr> LordMelkor: after little bit of googling i found this http://ipodlinux.org/Updater - maybe that would help?
[02:50] <Kyral> qwe: I <3 Screen
[02:50] <qwe> Kyral: do you know how to turn off that annoying splash text?
[02:50] <nbound> Mr_Milenko, thanx gettin it now
[02:50] <Mr_Milenko> np
[02:50] <majd_> ubuntu's screen saver's pretty ugly =\
[02:50] <Kyral> qwe: Screen has splash text?
[02:50] <Mr_Milenko> its rather nice for converting partitions from one format to another
[02:50] <qwe> Kyral: mine does
[02:50] <Mr_Milenko> but keep in mind
[02:50] <Mr_Milenko> READ everything it tells you
[02:50] <navarone> majd...try Lament if you have it...and opengl works...<s>
[02:51] <qwe> Kyral: copyright notice and the lot
[02:51] <Mr_Milenko> its very easy to fudge somethin if not used properly
[02:51] <Kyral> qwe: look in your ~/.screenrc
[02:51] <durt> lordmelkor: why cant you just follow the linux installationation instructions?
[02:51] <matthewjames> k, anyone know of a good part software, that can remove parts also?
[02:51] <ajmitch> qwe: startup_message option
[02:51] <qwe> Kyral: don't have one
[02:51] <Kyral> matthewjames: GParted
[02:51] <LordMelkor> durt.. there arnt any?
[02:51] <Paradosso> anybody knows a nice yet light sensors frontend?
[02:51] <matthewjames> under windows
[02:51] <Mr_Milenko> i just said that >_<
[02:51] <Kyral> Paradosso: GKrellm
[02:51] <Mr_Milenko> or do you mean HARDWARE parts?
[02:51] <qwe> gkrellm rocks
[02:51] <Kyral> qwe: /etc/screenrc
[02:52] <Mr_Milenko> or parts as in PARTITIONS?
[02:52] <timfrost> matthewjames, PartitionMagic
[02:52] <nbound> Mr_Milenko, it only seems to give me my hard drive partitions :S
[02:52] <matthewjames> kyral, under windows
[02:52] <durt> lordmelkor: http://ipodlinux.org/Installation_from_Linux
[02:52] <Kyral> matthewjames: sorry then
[02:52] <nbound> Mr_Milenko, oohhhh dont worry
[02:52] <matthewjames> tim, is it free?
[02:52] <qwe> hah, there it is... thx Kyral, ajmitch
[02:52] <Mr_Milenko> nbound: what exactly are you trying to accomplish again?
[02:52] <LordMelkor> oh i didnt know that site existed until arrin found it a couple minutes ago
[02:52] <nbound> Mr_Milenko, format memory stick
[02:52] <matthewjames> timfrost, is partintian magic free?
[02:53] <Kyral> no
[02:53] <timfrost> matthewjames, no.  I don't know of any free partitioning software for windows.
[02:53] <matthewjames> k
[02:53] <qwe> hmm, using the 'ati' driver puts my lcd at native 1920x1200 but switching to fglrx knocks it down to 1280x1024
[02:53] <durt> ... how did you know of ipod linux then?
[02:53] <mayol> i have a problem w my keyboard us_intl in gnome
[02:53] <Mr_Milenko> there are free partition editors
[02:53] <Mr_Milenko> but they run in DOS... with a faggish windows GUI
[02:53] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[02:54] <navarone> matthewjames, most live cd's provide partitioning tools like gparted and qparted. There is a system rescue cd you can dl iso for and boot from. It has ranish Partition Manager...I will get you url...brb
[02:54] <Mr_Milenko> just google... google is thy mastar and though shalt be saved eth and shit
[02:54] <Mr_Milenko> :P
[02:55] <deuce`> I'd like to add an alias that will apply system-wide to all users.  Can anyone tell me the right file to put it in?
[02:55] <Mr_Milenko> google qooqle
[02:55] <Spee_Der> Good night everyone, time for more zzz's.
[02:55] <qwe> deuce`: /etc/bash.bashrc
[02:55] <navarone> matthewjames,  http://www.sysresccd.org/  <-- I used ranish to reset my bootable partition after some misadventures in Windows Disk Management...<s>
[02:56] <matthewjames> whats better gentoo or ubuntu?
[02:56] <qwe> matthewjames: your preference
[02:57] <nbound> Mr_Milenko, i keep getting errors when i put the new partition on the stick
[02:57] <qwe> no distribution is worse than another unless the distro in question is mandriva
[02:57] <qwe> :P
[02:57] <Determinist> matthewjames, depends on usage, but generally, for a home user, definately ubuntu.
[02:57] <Determinist> qwe :)
[02:57] <spb> depends on the home user in question
[02:58] <nbound> Mr_Milenko, and also this:
[02:58] <qwe> depends on the definition of "home user" :P
[02:58] <Determinist> spb, well, most people i know dont get a kick at compiling stuff :)
[02:58] <nbound> The kernel is unable to re-read the partitiontables on the following devices:
[02:58] <nbound> - /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root
[02:58] <Mr_Milenko> uhm
[02:58] <spb> Determinist: on the other hand, some people i know don't get a kick out of being treated like an idiot ;p
[02:58] <Mr_Milenko> i have no clue... and.. that looks bad O_o
[02:58] <navarone> okay I am gone for the night...take care folks
[02:58] <nbound> Mr_Milenko, ill just format it on a windows box :P
[02:59] <Determinist> spb, having a distro that just works... is not treating a person like an idiot. people dont need to know or have access to everything the way such distros as gentoo provides, unless of couse they wish to and if that's the case then they have the option.
[02:59] <spb> Determinist: last time i looked at ubuntu it was fairly inflexible
[03:00] <qwe> not nearly as inflexible as fedora
[03:00] <spb> not being able to configure my box as i want to is what i would call being treated like an idiot
[03:00] <Mr_Milenko> or lindo.. i mean linspire
[03:00] <Determinist> spb, you could compile pretty much everything you wanted, you just dont have portege (or whatever that's called) to do it for you.
[03:00] <Determinist> spb, ubuntu is not the OS for the likes of you then, simple isnt it? :)
[03:00] <spb> so it becomes a complete pain in the arse
[03:00] <majd_> this may strike you as a dumb question, but i'll ask anyway....
[03:00] <majd_> what's the point of multiple desktops?
[03:01] <Kyral> More space :D
[03:01] <FarmerTom> How can I 'sync' a tarball with a directory? When I made the original tarball (about an hour ago) some files did not go in, but I do not know which they are.
[03:01] <Mr_Milenko> i prefer ubuntu over gentoo... Gentoo is more systems administration, Ubuntu is more get it done and actually use it
[03:01] <Mr_Milenko> lol
[03:01] <spb> Determinist: hence my 'depends on the home user in question' comment ;p
[03:01] <Determinist> Mr_Milenko, exactly
[03:01] <Determinist> spb, :)
[03:02] <majd_> i am VERY impressed with ubuntu
[03:02] <majd_> much better than mandrake
[03:02] <qwe> Mr_Milenko: I actually prefer gentoo, but I'm probably going to stick with ubuntu for now since a) I lost my gentoo / b) winter term just started and therefore c) I don't have time to reinstall
[03:02] <spb> majd_: that's not saying much
[03:02] <qwe> majd_: hell yeah. anything's better than mandrake
[03:02] <majd_> what a waste of $40
[03:02] <Determinist> spb, there's a certain level of flexibility that once you go over it... the system just becomes too much of a headache to deal with. people who want to browse webpages and edit docs usually dont need to configure every small and last detail about their os. E.g. windows and it's popularity.
[03:02] <majd_> i bought the mandrake book and it came with a dvd
[03:03] <majd_> i still don't understand how to use my webcam/printer/ipod/pda
[03:03] <spb> Determinist: yep ... that level falls somewhere between gentoo and LFS
[03:03] <Determinist> spb, sure, it's a shite OS, but it gets stuff done and it's widely supported, so people go with that. try selling gentoo to my grandma, see how that goes :)
[03:04] <spb> i tend to see selling such things to people as a waste of time
[03:04] <spb> people who will get on with it tend to gravitate in that direction anyway
[03:04] <Determinist> spb, i beg to differ, my girlfriend is adopting ubuntu these days because she's sick and tired of windows failing on her every other day because microsoft forget to plug in another hole. so that's a good example.
[03:04] <spb> i was referring to gentoo more than ubuntu
[03:05] <khermans_> Is it possible to install a DEB package as a local user somewhere under the $HOME directory?
[03:05] <Kyral> The world will soon change....
[03:05] <Kyral> khermans_: no
[03:05] <Determinist> khermans, do you understand what a deb package is?
[03:05] <khermans_> Determinist, guess not enough :-(
[03:05] <Kyral> all Debpacks install into /usr
[03:05] <Mr_Milenko> think of a deb as an MSI file
[03:05] <khermans_> Determinist, it is a Debian package
[03:05] <Determinist> khermans, yes, i know you could figure that out mate :)
[03:05] <khermans_> Mr_Milenko, well I want the software to go elsewhere
[03:05] <Kyral> khermans_: Debian package == .deb
[03:06] <Kyral> khermans_: you cannot do that with a Deb
[03:06] <khermans_> kyncani, can't I extract the binaries from within ?
[03:06] <Kyral> I don't think so
[03:06] <Determinist> khermans, think of it as a predefined install package that tells where files go and what the files in the package need to run (as in other packages)
[03:06] <khermans_> Kyral, you are wrong there -- it is a tar.gz package
[03:06] <spb> iirc there are programs around to convert debs to tar.gz packages
[03:06] <Kyral> khermans_: then its not a Debian Package
[03:07] <khermans_> Determinist, i know it tells where to put the fiel -- but I just want thin binaries
[03:07] <spb> at which point you can try to shove it elsewhere
[03:07] <spb> whether it will work depends on the package in question
[03:07] <khermans_> spb, yeah i guess
[03:07] <Determinist> khermans, you can use the archive manager to view the files within .deb packages as if they were tar.gz.
[03:07] <Determinist> doesnt make them tar.gz tho
[03:07] <Kyral> Debpack != tar.gz
[03:07] <Determinist> khermans, i'm failing to see how extracting the binaries would work
[03:07] <khermans_> spb, i am trying to install ImageMagick on my shared web host -- ffmpeg installed fine from CVS into $HOME, but ImageMagic is having issues
[03:07] <Kyral> its just compressed
[03:08] <Kyral> just install it normally
[03:08] <NigelS> khermans_: you can extract just the file with the dpkg -x switch, obviously it'll decompress with the dir structure it has, so you'd have a ./bin ./usr etc
[03:08] <Determinist> khermans, you could install the package, i dont think it would overwrite existing files
[03:08] <LordMelkor> is ubuntu based on debian 2.1 or 3+
[03:08] <Kyral> LordMelkor: it is based on Debian Sid
[03:09] <LordMelkor> hm.
[03:09] <khermans_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deb_%28file_format%29
[03:09] <LordMelkor> so if i wanna install aim for linux
[03:09] <Kyral> why would you want to install it normally anyway?
[03:09] <LordMelkor> which version would i use
[03:09] <Kyral> LordMelkor: sudo apt-get install gaim
[03:09] <Kyral> the official Aim client is a JOKE
[03:09] <khermans_> Says there on WikiPedia that DEBs are encapsulated tar.gz packages with installation info
[03:09] <qwe> gaim is installed by default isn't it?
[03:09] <LordMelkor> my gaim version cant file send for whatever reason
[03:09] <Kyral> qwe: yah
[03:10] <Kyral> khermans_: why do you want to install in /home?
[03:10] <NigelS> khermans_: yes, it's just a normal tarball for the compression purposes
[03:10] <Determinist> khermans, yes, that i am aware of, but it's about the same treating an msi file as an archive, it's a nono lol
[03:10] <khermans_> Kyral, this is a shared hosting server
[03:10] <khermans_> Kyral, i dont have root
[03:10] <Kyral> khermans_: then ask them to install it for you
[03:10] <NigelS> khermans_: anyway, as I say, you can get to the files within by just using dpkg -x
[03:10] <khermans_> Kyral, will they do that?!??!
[03:11] <Kyral> khermans_: depends on the company
[03:11] <Kyral> khermans_: some are nice lol
[03:11] <Determinist> khermans, if they wont... you need another hosting company
[03:11] <khermans_> Kyral, yeah they are damn cheap asses
[03:11] <khermans_> 1and1.com
[03:11] <ssstormy> hello
[03:11] <Kyral> This is why I make my own servers
[03:11] <Determinist> khermans, it's free software, me thinks... it's about 2 mins of setting stuff up, they should be able to do that for you
[03:11] <khermans_> Kyral, that's fine -- but I dont have the bandwidth i need
[03:12] <vineet> hi i installed ant in ubuntu ....running ant i get a message  unable to locate tools.jar ...any idea ??? please help
[03:12] <Determinist> Kyral, actually, cybexhost.com have been very nice to me, installed every little php thing i needed and were very nice about it.
[03:12] <Rick_Knight> Hi, I need some help with wpa_supplicant.
[03:12] <khermans_> Kyral, i routinely upload and download to my server at 3- MBytes/sec
[03:13] <vineet> hi i installed ant in ubuntu ....running ant i get a message  unable to locate tools.jar ...any idea ??? please help
[03:13] <ssstormy> I'm having some small issues with my video players.  I cannot play seemingly any video back on Totem or VLC but I can play on MPlayer.  Then I noticed when I changed the default output device for VLC and Totem, and tested it, I got output that looked just like what came when I tried to play those videos.  I have an old Viper Z200 (Savage 2000)
[03:13] <ssstormy> I was curious if this was a problem anyone else has encountered
[03:14] <FarmerTom> Okay, I'm reinstalling I have all my stuff backed up, but I need to give my drive a through scrub. Earse totally everything, I have lots of 'bad sectors' too. What command do I issue when?
[03:14] <vineet> Is any one here conversant with " unable to locate tools.jar" error when running ant
[03:15] <varsendagger> hey i just downloaded a .sh file how do i run it?
[03:15] <Rolan> sh it
[03:16] <Kyral> chmod +x nameoffile
[03:16] <Determinist> varsendagger, chmod +x <file> , then ./file or sh <file>
[03:16] <Kyral> yah what he said
[03:16] <varsendagger> Determinist, thanks i knew that
[03:16] <Determinist> varsendagger, you're welcome and i'm sure you did :)
[03:16] <NigelS> vineet: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-108149.html <-- google is
[03:17] <varsendagger> it is a program should i run that inside my /desktop dir or should i move it elsewhere first?
[03:17] <Determinist> grrr, do i want to get a cedega subscription?
[03:17] <varsendagger> Determinist, yeah
[03:17] <Determinist> just wondering if i wanna pay just to be able to get games running on this system just because i'm too lazy to switch to winxp every time
[03:17] <varsendagger> i was playing halflife 2 on my xbox earlier it is pretty cool, i bet it would be better on ubuntu though
[03:18] <varsendagger> Determinist, why don't you emulate win xp?
[03:18] <Determinist> define emulate
[03:18] <varsendagger> qemu
[03:19] <varsendagger> Determinist, there is a decent wiki on ubuntulinux
[03:19] <La_PaRCa> Hey kids
[03:19] <arrinmurr> Determinist: but isn't planetpenguin-racer all that's needed? ;)
[03:19] <varsendagger> true
[03:19] <Determinist> well, for one, i'm quite certain it wont use hardware as efficiently as directX under winxp, second... i'm sure it wont do just as well as cedega
[03:19] <Determinist> arrinmurr, aye, but you gotta shoot some stuff every now and then
[03:20] <rikai> err, is there an easy way to disable ipc6 systemwide, instead of jsut in firefox?
[03:20] <tolstoy> sethk: ?
[03:20] <Determinist> rikai, ipv6... well, have the kernel not load the module for it, me thinks
[03:20] <sethk> tolstoy, ?
[03:21] <rikai> Determinist, i'm pretty sure ubuntu uses ipv6 by default, no?
[03:21] <varsendagger> Determinist, what do you play?
[03:21] <tolstoy> sethk: I talked to you last night about the ipw2200 problems: things are detected, but packets get swallowed before being routed.
[03:21] <sethk> tolstoy, right, I remember
[03:21] <tolstoy> sethk: I just booted the "Hoary" live CD, and the wireless networking was detected and works right out of the box.
[03:22] <Determinist> varsendagger, nfsmw, diablo2x bnet, planetside
[03:22] <tolstoy> sethk: any idea what happened between hoary and breezy to break ipw?
[03:22] <sethk> tolstoy, ok, then you have a nice, well defined task - just figure out what's different.  :)
[03:22] <sethk> tolstoy, no, unfortunately, no idea.
[03:22] <tolstoy> sethk: hahahahahaha!
[03:22] <Determinist> rikai, i doubt it
[03:22] <varsendagger> what does nfsmw stand for?
[03:22] <Determinist> varsendagger, need for speed most wanted
[03:22] <rikai> Determinist, it indeed does. ;)\
[03:22] <varsendagger> planeside is cool
[03:23] <Determinist> rikai, the module is loaded by default, but still, ipv4 is the default
[03:23] <varsendagger> sorry offtopick
[03:23] <Determinist> varsendagger, yeah, very cool and yes, offtopic :)
[03:23] <rikai> Determinist, any idea then, why disabling ipv6 in firefoxenable dme to browse, and i see an ipv6 address in ifconfig?
[03:24] <tolstoy> sethk: only thing I can tell: v 2.2 of firmware, and v. 0.19 of driver.
[03:24] <sethk> tolstoy, that's a good start.
[03:25] <Determinist> rikai, well, dunno about firefox but i'm willing to guess that there are ipv6 addresses statically assigned to your NIC, but then again, i'm not too familiar with ipv6 so i'm assuming it is similiar in behavior to v4
[03:25] <tolstoy> sethk: and different kernel, 2.6.10 vs 2.6.12, I think, for breezy.
[03:25] <whitynz> Hmm I'm having a problem creating a link for a certain folder
[03:25] <sethk> tolstoy, yes, although if I had to bet, at this point, I'd put the kernel in third place as far as being the likely cause
[03:26] <tolstoy> sethk: and breezy live CD doesn't work either, so I'm not inadvertantly introducing the bug.
[03:26] <whitynz> it says hard link not allowed for directory
[03:26] <tolstoy> sethk: firmware and/or driver, then kernel, eh?
[03:26] <derrick81787> can anyone help me install mame on breezy amd64?
[03:26] <sethk> tolstoy, I'd put my money on the driver first, then firmware, only then kernel.
[03:26] <sethk> tolstoy, I might have the driver/firmware backwards, but the kernel is in 3rd, I think
[03:27] <timfrost> whitynz, yes.  You need to use symlink (ln -s newname directory)
[03:27] <tolstoy> sethk: you don't think there's some config setting that didn't get enabled or something?
[03:27] <Determinist> k, i'm out, woman calling and bed's waiting
[03:27] <whitynz> timfrost, ok i'll try that
[03:27] <Determinist> nn folks
[03:28] <sethk> tolstoy, I don't know of a config setting that would cause these symptoms.  I could be wrong, of course.
[03:28] <Rick_Knight> tolstoy: I guess you still don't have it working?
[03:28] <tolstoy> sethk: for instance, note the request to comment out stuff in http://kerneltrap.org/node/5414
[03:28] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: hi!  Nope.  Hoary Live CD works, though.
[03:28] <timfrost> whitynz, got the order wrong (ln -s a b creates b pointing to a)
[03:28] <Rolan> when i use static ip, why is so slow to get the network working?
[03:28] <sethk> tolstoy, let me read that
[03:28] <whitynz> timfrost, yup I got it, cheers
[03:29] <majd_> would someone be willing to help me install my hp photosmart 3200 printer?
[03:29] <Rick_Knight> tolstoy: Hmm. I've rebuilt, rconfigured, patched. Now I can build ipw2200 OK, but I cannot get a device.
[03:29] <sethk> tolstoy, I'd have to look at the code to see what they are talking about, but I agree that looks suspicious, especially as it appears to be ubuntu specific
[03:31] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: I think the debian folks changed the kernel config just enough to break us.  not that I really know, but, you know, all rational explanations seem out the window.
[03:31] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: I even tried debian testing: same deal.  compiled 1.0.3, I think and it loaded: same behavior.  Very frustrating.
[03:31] <|SiN|> Hi to all... how can i mount ext2 partition under windows xp?
[03:32] <Rick_Knight> Tolstoy, yeah, I agree. Lot's of people are having similar problems with Ubuntu/Kubunt and wireless. You'ld think they'd fix it.
[03:33] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: might be that the probs seem suspiciously like misconfigured networking.  at least a few issues I saw on bugzilla suggest the devs think that.
[03:34] <Rick_Knight> Tolstoy: I've tried to email the dev list. for ipw2200. Moderator has blocked the email and I really don't want to jion a devel list.
[03:34] <Rick_Knight> Tolstoy: how far have you gotten?
[03:35] <tolstoy> I'm going to post to whatever ubuntu uses for bug tracking these days, see how it goes from there.
[03:35] <theconartist> what is the gnome burning app
[03:35] <tolstoy> theconartist: nautilus, or serpentine for music tracks
[03:36] <theconartist> there is a different one
[03:36] <tolstoy> baker?
[03:37] <tigerrr> any know where i can get the default httpd.conf for apache2... i deleted it on accident without making a backup.. i tried apt-get remove, apt-get install but it doesnt reinstall the config files
[03:38] <Rick_Knight> Tolstoy: how much of ipw2200 have you gotten to work?
[03:39] <Psi-Jack> Hey. How is the support for an ATI AiW Radeon 8500, for both DRI/DRM, and TV support in Linux these days?
[03:39] <Kyral> DRM...
[03:39] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: under FC4 and Hoary (Live CD): it works.  Nothing under Debian Testing or Debian Unstable or Ubuntu Breezy and Dapper
[03:39] <Kyral> EVIL!
[03:39] <Psi-Jack> Kyral: Heh. Which one is correct? DRI, for the Direct Rendering Interface?
[03:39] <Kyral> DRI
[03:40] <Kyral> DRM == Digital Rights Management
[03:40] <Psi-Jack> Gotcha.
[03:40] <Psi-Jack> Anyway. Do you know the answer to that one? :)
[03:40] <Rick_Knight> Tolstoy: I had Kubuntu-5.04 installed befor I upgraded to 5.10 and it worked there as well.
[03:40] <Kyral> Atis...are okay
[03:40] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: I'm guessing it works fine under windows.
[03:40] <Kyral> NVIdia works better as usual
[03:40] <Rick_Knight> TYolstoy: it works perfectly.
[03:40] <Psi-Jack> Is the TV support there?
[03:40] <Rick_Knight> (under Windows XPpro)
[03:40] <Kyral> Psi-Jack: I dunno
[03:40] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: I think FC4 and Hoary used the 2.2 firmware.
[03:41] <Kyral> I run an NVidia card
[03:41] <lowman62> what is the X11 libs called?
[03:41] <supa> x
[03:42] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm.
[03:44] <Seq> is hoary able to run User Mode Linux already, or do I have to build a new kernel?
[03:44] <Locke> what is the command to format a different partition?
[03:44] <CanadianSnow> ok
[03:44] <CanadianSnow> so
[03:44] <Seq> by hoary with UML, i meant breezy
[03:44] <CanadianSnow> who knows how to do autodetection
[03:44] <Rick_Knight> Question about ipw. Does ipw2200 create the device (eth0 or wlan0 etc) or does something els do that?
[03:44] <CanadianSnow> !bot ?
[03:44] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[03:45] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: I think I'll try ipw2200-1.0.3 and the 2.2 firmware and see how that goes.
[03:46] <Rick_Knight> Tolstoy: I did that and made no difference at all. Right now I have ieee80211-1.1.8 with the cast patch and ipw2200-1.0.10.
[03:46] <majd_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=112364&highlight=hp+photosmart+3210
[03:46] <Locke> what is the command to format a different partition?
[03:46] <majd_> that thread explains how to set my printer up, but i can't follow it
[03:46] <majd_> can anyone help?
[03:47] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: right.  just rip the hope from me. ;)  well, did you have to comment out that is_multicast_ether_addr thing?
[03:48] <Toma-> ubotu: wiki UbotuUsage
[03:48] <Toma-> cool..
[03:48] <Rick_Knight> Tolstoy: No 1.0.3 and 1.0.0 both built fine for me. Just didn't work.
[03:48] <Quake4Ialdaris> Hi anyone know why WHOAMI environ would be empty in breezy?
[03:49] <Toma-> Quake4Ialdaris: because its not needed?
[03:49] <Kyral> Quake4Ialdaris: there is no $WHOAMI...
[03:49] <bimberi> there is $USER tho
[03:49] <abort> how do you mate the browsing bar in nautilus smaller?
[03:49] <The> Hi can someone help me?
[03:50] <Locke> what is the command to format a different partition?
[03:50] <Gunfus> what is the problem..?!
[03:50] <Quake4Ialdaris> ok, USER works for me
[03:50] <Quake4Ialdaris> thanks
[03:50] <Gunfus> The, what is the problem,.!?
[03:50] <Toma-> the: you'll need to ask the question before asking that.
[03:50] <The> Im trying to install some applications in gdesklets
[03:50] <timfrost> Locke, it depends on what filesystem you want on it.  mke2fs /dev/hda8 will create an EXT2 filesystem on /dev/hda8
[03:50] <bimberi> Quake4Ialdaris: yw :)
[03:50] <The> but It gives me errors
[03:50] <Lil-Abner> Hi.
[03:50] <ITSa341> hello, question about ndiswrapper. Should I use win98/winme drivers or win2k/winxp drivers??
[03:50] <The> I do not know hot to fix it,,, Im knew into ubuntu
[03:51] <Lil-Abner> Can any one tell me if I can download and install Ubuntu over and existing Linux distro?
[03:51] <Gunfus> The, what error..? what application..?! can you do a pastebin..?
[03:51] <phrizer> Hey, i'm trying to get sun's java working on my system, i've downloaded 'j2eesdk-1_4_02_2005Q2-linux.bin' but am stuck there. I installed fakeroot, and java-package, java-common, and tried 'fakeroot make-jpkg j2eesdk-1_4_02_2005Q2-linux.bin' but i get a plugin not found error.
[03:52] <NigelS> phrizer: the .bin is designed to be run
[03:52] <NigelS> phrizer: if you have sun's java you prob won't be wanting gcj etc
[03:52] <Toma-> phrizer: you sure you want j2eesdk?
[03:52] <demonstar> im having trouble setting up NFS / Samba ...
[03:53] <phrizer> oh
[03:53] <The> /home/luis/.gdesklets/Displays/OSXCornerXMMS-0.1.2/osxcornerxmms-bottomright.display
[03:53] <The> >   1 xmms = get_control('IKXmms2:701uz5p7uot652wbszeprbeev-2')
[03:53] <NigelS> phrizer: personally I would go with sun until gcj is a bit better :) unless your list of java apps is limited
[03:53] <phrizer> Toma-,  ?
[03:53] <The> and also I would like to know how can I do that every time I log in gdesklets starts automatically
[03:54] <varsendagger> ahh i can't apt-get instal mplayer what the heck, how do i add the right repo?
[03:54] <Toma-> phrizer: ee is for development.... you sure you dont want re? its the one that lets you use java web applets and so on
[03:54] <bimberi> ubotu tell varsendagger about mplayer
[03:54] <timfrost> !mplayer
[03:54] <ubotu> somebody said mplayer was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[03:54] <Gunfus> The, to make gdesklet start automaticly you can add it to System-> Preferences -> Session
[03:55] <Gunfus> The, for the error with Gdesklet I am not sure.. I can';t help you with that..
[03:55] <Gunfus> The, sorry
[03:55] <Gunfus> The, good luck I got to go
[03:55] <The> thanx
[03:55] <The> can anyone else help me with gdesklets?
[03:57] <The> can anyone tell me where are all the bins file stored
[03:57] <cvogel> various directories, The.  /bin /usr/bin /usr/local/bin
[03:57] <Lil-Abner> To install ubuntu on a machine, do I have to download a cd and install that way, or can I download it unto an already existing distrubution of linux and install over it?
[03:58] <cvogel> The: at a terminal type echo $PATH
[03:58] <cvogel> that's where bash looks for all binaries
[03:58] <cvogel> each dir seperated by a :
[03:58] <Toma-> The: run "env | grep PATH"
[03:58] <cvogel> You can also add to that directory temporarily or by editing a file in your home directory
[03:58] <Toma-> or that
[03:59] <The> thats where all the executalbes of my files are right?
[03:59] <cvogel> the ones bash knows about... 99% of programs installed are in those dires
[03:59] <ssstormy> is anyone around familiar with the Xv and X11 devices?  My video players (all except Mplayer) can't play on X11 and ALL of them can't play on Xv, the reason seeming to be hardware issues with my video card
[04:00] <_jason> The, do "locate --regexp='/bin$'" if you want all the folders named bin :)
[04:00] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: well, 1.0.3 didn't work for me either, alas.  Same prob.
[04:00] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: I think it's a changed kernel config.
[04:00] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: you know, because I'm an expert on these things.
[04:01] <The> can anyone else help me with the gdesklets error that i Have?
[04:01] <The> /home/luis/.gdesklets/Displays/OSXCornerXMMS-0.1.2/osxcornerxmms-bottomright.display
[04:01] <The> >   1 xmms = get_control('IKXmms2:701uz5p7uot652wbszeprbeev-2')
[04:01] <Rick_Knight> tolstoy: do you get an interface?
[04:01] <The> its only happening with the desklets of xmms!
[04:01] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: I do see (with iwconfig) Invalid misc: 10.
[04:01] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: yes.
[04:02] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: but then I've got network-manager working.
[04:02] <Rick_Knight> tolstoy: What is network-manager?
[04:02] <cvogel> It's a gnome utility for managing network interfaces, I think
[04:03] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: it's a little daemon + applet (nm-applet) that finds your wireless and other networks and lets you switch between them.
[04:03] <Rick_Knight> tolstoy: is it part of ubuntu?
[04:03] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: When I do ifconfig eth0 (the wireless device), I see errors:0 and dropped:10.
[04:03] <cvogel> eth0 is not your wireless device, probably
[04:04] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: probably in universe or multiverse.  package: network-manager
[04:04] <cvogel> My wireless PCI card is ath0.. for atheros chipset
[04:04] <tolstoy> cvogel: it is.  breezy installer set it up that way.
[04:04] <cvogel> eth0 is your ethernet card
[04:04] <tolstoy> cvogel: that's eth1, and it works fine.  i've no idea why the installer preferred the wireless.
[04:05] <TestDummy> Does anybody have any idea why each and every GTK1 application I load uses gigantic, ugly text?
[04:05] <tolstoy> er, set wireless to eth0.  i just chalked it up to this being a new machine.
[04:05] <cvogel> what about iwconfig
[04:05] <Rick_Knight> When I've had wireless working, eth0 was my wireless interface, et1 is my Ethernet interface.
[04:05] <TestDummy> Tried using switch to adjust, didn't help.
[04:05] <tolstoy> cvogel: yeah, iwconfig confirms eth0.  if only that were the prob, here.
[04:05] <cvogel> Rick_Knight.. yeah.. depends on the chipset
[04:06] <cvogel> well.. what are you trying to do? use iwconfig eth0 essid, key, etc.. then dhclient or whatever
[04:06] <The> >   1 xmms = get_control('IKXmms2:701uz5p7uot652wbszeprbeev-2')                      ?
[04:06] <Rick_Knight> cvogel: what brings up the interface, ipw2200 or something else?
[04:06] <trucekill> is anyoneone having trouble with the canadian universe and multiverse repositories for apt?
[04:07] <The> yeah trucekill
[04:07] <The> i changed it
[04:07] <tolstoy> cvogel: that all works.  it's that the driver, or something, anyway, is dropping packets.  can't even reach my router.  yet, under hoary, it works perfectly.
[04:07] <cvogel> tolstoy.. interesting.  Hoary had the wrong drivers for my chipset
[04:07] <joseph> does anyone know why cedega depends upon xlibs?
[04:07] <joseph> what would happen if I installed xlibs on breezy?
[04:07] <cvogel> I had to compile them from CVS on hoary.. works out-of-box on breezy
[04:08] <majd_> can i run counter strike on ubuntu?
[04:08] <tolstoy> cvogel: yeah, things should get better, not worse!
[04:08] <bob832> hi in the process of setting up an ftp server however, when i log in on another computer, its says connection timed out...how can i go about troubleshooting this problem?
[04:08] <Rick_Knight> cvogel: My problem now is that I no longer get the interface. wpa_supplicant errors out on "no device found" .
[04:09] <ITSa341> joseph: I ran cedega on ubuntu.
[04:09] <cvogel> I ran cedega as well
[04:09] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: can you get stuff working with no encryption?
[04:09] <cvogel> Rick_Knight.. have the latest kernel upgrade?
[04:09] <Rick_Knight> tolstoy: I don't know, haven't tried. I will now.
[04:10] <joseph> ITSa341: on hoary or breezy?
[04:10] <Rick_Knight> cvogel: Ihave kernel 2.6.12-10. What should I have?
[04:10] <ITSa341> 5.1*
[04:10] <ITSa341> 5.10
[04:10] <The> can anyone help me?
[04:11] <cvogel> that one is the latest, Rick_Knight
[04:11] <ardchoille> what's the command to bring up midnight commander in a term?
[04:12] <joseph> what does xlibs do to a breezy installation?  does it make any changes?
[04:12] <philc> I want a static IP on one wireless network, and dhcp on another. I'm currently using network manager. Is this possible?
[04:12] <TestDummy> No idea on why these GTK1 fonts are so large and ugly??
[04:12] <tolstoy> TestDummy: is there something you can set in .gtkrc?  I've blocked all memory of that stuff out.
[04:13] <tolstoy> TestDummy: maybe you can at least google for that file and what to put in it.
[04:13] <TestDummy> ...
[04:13] <TestDummy> I wouldn't be on IRC asking questions if I wanted to use Google!
[04:13] <philc> wow
[04:14] <tolstoy> TestDummy: yeah, i know, i know, but sometimes I, at least, don't know what to google for, so come here for a hint.
[04:14] <abarbaccia> hey guys - whats the command to see the size of a partition?
[04:14] <cvogel> fdisk -s PARTITION
[04:15] <tolstoy> So do we use launchpad.com/distros/ubuntu to search for and file issues these days?
[04:15] <abarbaccia> im talking about the two letter command
[04:15] <ITSa341> I have found that google either points me to ubuntu kiwi , forums or bad info most of the time. So I always come here for help. Get it right that way.
[04:15] <ITSa341> :-)
[04:15] <abarbaccia> im talking about the two letter command
[04:15] <abort> how do you make the nautilus browser bar smaller
[04:15] <bimberi> abarbaccia: df
[04:15] <The> can anyone help me with gdesklets?
[04:15] <timfrost> abarcaccia, df
[04:15] <TestDummy> Don't see much in the .gtkrc files except for what switch wrote to them.
[04:15] <abort> The: sure
[04:15] <abort> The: how so
[04:15] <bimberi> abarbaccia: df -h    is worth the extra 3 keystrokes :)
[04:15] <Madpilot> ITSa341: we usually point people to the Ubuntu wiki as well :P
[04:16] <The> every time i try to use an xmms gdesklet it does not allow me..
[04:16] <The> It gives me different errors
[04:16] <The> such as /home/luis/.gdesklets/Displays/OSXCornerXMMS-0.1.2/osxcornerxmms-bottomright.display
[04:16] <The> >   1 xmms = get_control('IKXmms2:701uz5p7uot652wbszeprbeev-2')
[04:16] <ITSa341> yup, kiwi, or here are the places I trust for good info
[04:16] <abort> The: how are you running the deskle
[04:16] <Madpilot> ITSa341: um, it's "wiki" not "kiwi"... :D
[04:16] <The> i installed
[04:17] <The> and it went to applications accessories gdesklets
[04:17] <abarbaccia> anybody here can help me with lvm?
[04:17] <cvogel> The, from apt?
[04:17] <The> yeap..
[04:17] <ITSa341> Madpilot I know, it's just habit :-)    you familiar with ndiswrapper?
[04:17] <s_spiff> hey.. needed help with azuerus
[04:18] <timfrost> tolstoy, yes.  The migration to malone is set to be comopleted by 18:0 UTC, 13 Jan
[04:18] <Madpilot> ITSa341: nope, I run lots of Cat5 instead of wireless, sorry
[04:18] <ITSa341> Mad, cat5 is limited in distance. I am 2 miles from the ap   :-)   can we say cantenna   hehe
[04:18] <The> I used apt get install gdesklets
[04:18] <majd_> what's APT for ubuntu?
[04:19] <molinero> ???-?????? ??????? ????????
[04:19] <majd_> i know it's for managing packets, but i can't get to it
[04:19] <s_spiff> i usually get a download speed on ABC wghile downloading torrents.. a speed of about 16kbps...but in ABC [ another bit torrent Client ]  i can set download speed to unlimited and upload to anything i choose like 3 / 4 kbps
[04:19] <pejcao> any1 knows how to open a kodadk DCR file in lunux?
[04:19] <abort> The: you are running the desktlet from the notification area iconZ
[04:19] <tolstoy> timfrost: ummmm, huh?  talking the launchpad thing?  ubuntu.com keeps talking about bugzilla.
[04:19] <s_spiff>  in azuerus i hav to set the download spped to 6kbps to get download speed of 19
[04:19] <The> what you mean from the notification area iconz?
[04:20] <s_spiff>  which uses up my bandwidth .. giving me  a download speed of only 7...and upload of 7..
[04:20] <Madpilot> majd_: Synaptic is the GUI version; apt-get is the CLI one
[04:20] <abort> The: the notification area is where the gaim icon and such goes, the system tray
[04:20] <shadeofgrey> hey everybody
[04:20] <timfrost> tolstoy, yes. bugzilla will go read-only sometime in the next 24 hours.
[04:20] <s_spiff>  can someone give me a work around for this?
[04:20] <tolstoy> timfrost: ok.
[04:20] <The> yeah
[04:20] <gdub> hey all
[04:20] <TestDummy> =| Silly it..
[04:20] <shadeofgrey> does anybody know if openoffice.org runs on powerpc - specifically Tiger?
[04:20] <rjs> how do i change from su mode back to a normal user in a terminal?
[04:20] <abort> exit
[04:21] <The> well first i went to applications -> accessories and then finally clicked on gdesklets
[04:21] <shadeofgrey> if so, does anybody further know whether compatability is plannedfor the intel versions of mac hardware recently announced and released?
[04:21] <abort> ok, im talking about the cornerxmms desklet
[04:21] <rjs> shadeofgrey: there is a project to port it, but if memory serves its proving to be hard
[04:21] <The> yeah yeah
[04:21] <The> I clicked and dragged to the application and try to run it
[04:21] <wckdkl0wn> how hard is it to go from ubuntu to kbuntu? if u have ubuntu installed?
[04:22] <trucekill> ummm I think you can just apt get kde but im not sure
[04:22] <rjs> abort: thanks
[04:22] <arrinmurr> wckdkl0wn: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:22] <shadeofgrey> so... whats the verdict -- wait to buy my new macbookpro until somebody comes up with a version of it that works?
[04:22] <Malachi> What programs replace Evolution?
[04:22] <Malachi> I know Thunderbird, of course...
[04:22] <s_spiff> can anyone tell me how to get screenshots in .jpg format?
[04:22] <Malachi> But what about Evo's other features?
[04:22] <rjs> kmail
[04:22] <wckdkl0wn> i had ubuntu installed before and got rid of it because i couldnt figure out how to get kde on it.. and now they have kbuntu out so i wanna try it again
[04:22] <luisito> man! the Ubuntu comunity its getting bigger and bigger. Everytime I come here there is more and more people.
[04:22] <shadeofgrey> because id rather use some no name text editor than sell out and buy microshaft word (waste)
[04:22] <czr> Malachi, which features do you need?
[04:22] <rjs> but you can keep evolution if you want
[04:23] <Malachi> Mail, Contacts, Calendar...
[04:23] <Madpilot> luisito: 596 is pretty standard for this channel...
[04:23] <majd_> Madpilot, how do you get to it? i can't find it
[04:23] <timfrost> wckdkl0wn, 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' to install all the KDE packages.  Then choose KDE rather than gnome when youi next log in
[04:23] <Malachi> Tasks...
[04:23] <The> so abort do you have any sugestions?
[04:23] <czr> malachi, evolution is probably the 'best' outlook-clone, for people who like outlooks
[04:23] <Madpilot> majd_: System menu --> Admin --> Synaptic Package Mngr
[04:23] <Malachi> czr: Okay. That answers my question.
[04:23] <wckdkl0wn> i am gonna go install it then i will be back lol
[04:23] <abort> The: run gdesklets from the terminal, using "gdekslets open /path/to/.display file"
[04:23] <Madpilot> majd_: and when it asks for a password, use your own user pw
[04:23] <majd_> yeah sorry wasn't paying attention
[04:24] <abort> The: is xmms running when yo ulaunch it?
[04:24] <The> no abort
[04:24] <The> should i run it?
[04:24] <s_spiff> can some1 tell me how to save the desktop sceenshot as a .jpg?
[04:24] <abort> The: start it first, see what happens, ill brb
[04:24] <The> sure thanx
[04:24] <abort> s_spiff, rename it to .jpg
[04:25] <s_spiff> ok
[04:25] <abort> s_spiff, which doesnt work nevermind
[04:25] <abort> s_spiff, use gimp to take the shot
[04:25] <gdub> check check
[04:25] <s_spiff> thanks..
[04:25] <The> same error
[04:25] <The> :(
[04:25] <s_spiff>  no.. the rename worked fine
[04:25] <The> abort same error
[04:26] <czr> s_spiff, it works
[04:26] <s_spiff> but the size is huge!
[04:26] <czr> s_spiff, when you've taken the screenshot and are giving the filename, use filename.jpg instead of filename.png
[04:26] <s_spiff> 1.21mb!
[04:26] <s_spiff> i did that
[04:26] <s_spiff>  worked
[04:27] <czr> the size is probably huge because you have lot of graphics on your desktop?
[04:28] <czr> you can open the picture (png recommended) in gimp, then save it as jpg with compression options
[04:28] <czr> so you can reduce quality
[04:28] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: Okay, this is weird, but do you think that because the installer assigned eth0 to the wireless that that is the problem, somehow?
[04:28] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: I don't see how it could be, but people here seem shocked that eth0 is wireless, eth1 is not.
[04:29] <czr> does ubuntu bind the network interface names to the MACs of the interfaces when it detects new ones?
[04:29] <czr> assuming eth0 = wlan, eth1 = fixed, then you boot with wlan-disabled (hw-key)
[04:29] <czr> that would lead into oodles of problems wrt iptables
[04:30] <demonstar> hey I need help getting xmame
[04:30] <Rick_Knight> tolstoy: I don't know. How can I change the installer what the installer does?
[04:31] <needhelp> how can I change the icons ?
[04:31] <timfrost> czr, /etc/iftab maps MAC address to HWname.  Check the entries there
[04:31] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: /etc/network?
[04:31] <czr> timfrost, the question was whether ubuntu does it automatically for new interfaces
[04:31] <s_spiff> needhelp, either download the Gnome Art
[04:31] <s_spiff>  and then u have an option of installing new icon sets
[04:31] <needhelp> lets say I download some iconst
[04:31] <needhelp> how can I install them
[04:31] <s_spiff>  or download some icons..
[04:32] <_jason> needhelp, drag them into the window where you change themes
[04:32] <s_spiff>  and then go to System>Pref>Themes>Install>direect it to the icon file
[04:32] <timfrost> czr, I believe not.  But you can add entries to /etc/iftab
[04:32] <Rick_Knight> tolstoy: I've allways had eth1 as the ethernet on this notebook.tolstoy: /etc/network had all eth0 stuff remarked out.
[04:32] <s_spiff>  and u'll get them..
[04:32] <needhelp> ok
[04:32] <s_spiff>  then go into theme details..
[04:32] <s_spiff>  and chose icons..
[04:32] <needhelp> where is this window?
[04:32] <needhelp> ok thanx
[04:32] <s_spiff> System>Pref>Themes
[04:32] <_jason> needhelp, system prefs themes
[04:32] <needhelp> s)_piff
[04:32] <s_spiff> yeah?
[04:33] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: did you install network-manager?  Ah, that's write, it's a gnome app.
[04:33] <czr> timfrost, I'd use nameif/ifname in bootscripts, I'm not thinking about the manual solution. RH binds the names based on MACs so that end-users don't get too confused (imho not very bad idea)
[04:33] <s_spiff> ! themes
[04:33] <McJerry> could i run gparted under kde?
[04:34] <Kyral> McJerry: yes
[04:34] <s_spiff> i think u can McJerry ,
[04:34] <czr> McJerry, yes if you have the necessary gnome-libs installed
[04:34] <czr> McJerry, installing gparted should pull them automatically
[04:34] <s_spiff> if you have both GNOME and KDE installed, you can run one app. in the other env.
[04:34] <s_spiff> ! metathemes
[04:34] <ubotu> s_spiff: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[04:34] <Madpilot> McJerry: yes, you should be able to - I run a couple of KDE apps in Gnome with no problems
[04:34] <czr> you don't have to install whole of GNOME desktop in order to run gnome programs
[04:34] <McJerry> k, thanks, i got ubuntu, buddy on west cost has kubuntu, i couldn't answer his question, tx guys
[04:35] <s_spiff> some one tell me what is a meta theme
[04:35] <_jason> McJerry, you can run it, when you install it it should pull in all the necessary gnome libraries
[04:35] <McJerry> Madpilot, i run kde apps in gnome, just didn't know if i could go other way
[04:35] <McJerry> thanks all
[04:35] <s_spiff> right,u don't have to... but i said that cuz I have both installed.
[04:36] <needhelp> s_piff I downloaded some icons I do not how to install
[04:36] <shad0w1e> I'm running Ubuntu inside of a VM, and the screen goes nuts when it enters X. I've been told this is a xorg problem, and it will work by switching over to XFree. does anyone know about this issue, or what I should do? Thanks
[04:37] <Rick_Knight> tolstoy: I just noticed, my hotplug directory is empty except for the ipw-2.3 stuff. It used to have a bunch of other stuff in it. I assume it's a casualty of some experimenting with this ipw problem. How can I get the firmware stuff back?
[04:37] <czr> shad0w1e, which VM?
[04:37] <shad0w1e> I'm running Kubuntu 5.10 on top of Microsoft VM 2004
[04:37] <czr> vmware works quite nicely with ubuntu
[04:37] <majd_> can i just download source for debian and use it on ubuntu
[04:37] <czr> microsoft virtual server doesn't support linux
[04:37] <shad0w1e> I mean Virtual PC
[04:37] <shad0w1e> 2004
[04:37] <czr> same crap :-)
[04:37] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: I think it's all in the kernel.  So re-install that?
[04:37] <shad0w1e> I remember having this problem on Solaris 10....
[04:37] <shad0w1e> I was told it's xorg, but I dont know how to fix it
[04:38] <czr> shad0w1e, you shoulr really try vmware instead, it plays nice with linux and whatever
[04:38] <Rick_Knight> tolstoy: OK. Tomorrow.
[04:38] <czr> vpc is only good at running windows
[04:38] <shad0w1e> czr, I'll keep that in mind, thanks.. but for the time being, know of any easy way to change over to XFree ?
[04:38] <shad0w1e> czr, heh
[04:38] <tolstoy> dpkg -S /lib/hotplug/firmware/ipw2100-1.3.fw-2.6.12-10-686
[04:38] <tolstoy> linux-image-2.6.12-10-686: /lib/hotplug/firmware/ipw2100-1.3.fw-2.6.12-10-686
[04:38] <czr> shad0w1e, probably not unless you might breaking package dependency rules
[04:38] <czr> shad0w1e, it wasn't a joke even
[04:39] <czr> shad0w1e, you could try to build your own xfree86
[04:39] <cantspeakslowl1> I'm trying to set up grub on a dual boot install. fdisk -l shows ubuntu on /dev/hde1 and ntfs on /dev/hdf1. I'm following the instrctions at http://ubuntuguide.org/#addwindowsentrygrubmenu with root  (hd1,0) but it isn't working...
[04:39] <czr> shad0w1e, and then overwrite the existing X server, cross fingers and hope that it works (it probably wont)
[04:39] <shad0w1e> czr... yuck... Can I bring over my existing Linux install into VMWARE?
[04:39] <needhelp> can anyone tell me how to install the icons I donwloaded?
[04:39] <shad0w1e> its a hard drive Image...
[04:39] <czr> shad0w1e, existing linux install under vpc?
[04:39] <shad0w1e> yes
[04:39] <czr> shad0w1e, no. VM images are incompatible between vms I think
[04:39] <_jason> needhelp, we told you already
[04:40] <needhelp> yeah I following
[04:40] <shad0w1e> yuck. okay thanks a lot..
[04:40] <czr> shad0w1e, although I'm not sure whether newer vmwares can read MS VPC-images, you might want to check their web space
[04:40] <needhelp> But I do not know hot to it
[04:40] <poimen> someone kwos how to enable multiverse in dapper?
[04:40] <needhelp> I donwload a tar.gz file
[04:40] <czr> shad0w1e, check out the vmware workstation 5.5 pages
[04:40] <shad0w1e> thank you. I'll look around some more...
[04:40] <needhelp> and there are different folder...SOrry but its my first day on linux
[04:40] <_jason> needhelp, open system->prefs-> themes.
[04:40] <shad0w1e> First I'm gonna try to get running over here...
[04:40] <shad0w1e> if its not too impossible
[04:40] <czr> never had any serious problems with vmware/linux/anything
[04:40] <shad0w1e> heh
[04:40] <_jason> needhelp, then click on your file and drag it into the window
[04:40] <czr> but vpc is pos really
[04:41] <needhelp> whats the extension of the file
[04:41] <shad0w1e> czr heh
[04:41] <shad0w1e> pos
[04:41] <czr> piece of crapola :-)
[04:41] <_jason> needhelp, just drag the tar.gz into that window
[04:41] <czr> unless you're running new windowses in it
[04:41] <majd_> how do i acess the terminal?
[04:41] <needhelp> ohhh ok
[04:41] <shad0w1e> crapola doesnt begin with a s
[04:41] <needhelp> hold on I will do it
[04:41] <shad0w1e> heh im just messin'
[04:41] <_jason> majd_, applications -> accessories
[04:41] <majd_> thanks
[04:41] <tolstoy> Oh, yikes!  I added a bug to launchpad, and somehow it's in "firefox (ubuntu)"!  Hm. How to change that.
[04:41] <majd_> i was looking in system
[04:42] <_jason> majd_, yeah it used to be there, they changed it in breezy
[04:42] <czr> shad0w1e, crapola was a nicer version of the word that I had in mind :-)
[04:42] <majd_> i'm having trouble installing gtkpod
[04:42] <Locke> i know this is probably extremely off topic, but does anyone know anything about damn small linux?
[04:42] <majd_> it sayts to put ./configure --help
[04:42] <czr> shad0w1e, don't want to offend all the people working for microsoft on this channel ;-)
[04:42] <majd_> but that gives me an error
[04:42] <majd_> do i need to login as root?
[04:43] <_jason> majd_, I wouldn't recommend it
[04:43] <shad0w1e> ohh look at that. it seems that if I change over to 16 bit color, it fixes my problem...
[04:43] <needhelp> It worked THANX YOUUU
[04:43] <_jason> majd_, what's the error (use pastebin if it is large)
[04:43] <needhelp> :)
[04:43] <ssstormy> what's te error?
[04:43] <czr> Locke, probably google and DSL pages is the best reference
[04:43] <_jason> needhelp, np
[04:43] <majd_> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[04:43] <czr> Locke, unless you had a specific question in mind
[04:43] <czr> Locke, also LJ had an article about it some issues ago
[04:43] <ssstormy> majd_, well that's pretty straight forward
[04:43] <_jason> majd_, then you are probably in the wrong directory
[04:43] <ssstormy> it's not in the dir oyu'r in
[04:43] <Locke> czr: i just want to install it for a nothing but command line, but i can't figure out how to get it from launching the GUI
[04:44] <Rick_Knight> tolstoy: Disabling wpa made no difference. I need to get an interface first.
[04:44] <cantspeakslowl1> any takers on troubleshoooting my GRUB woes?
[04:44] <ssstormy> majd_, tar zxvf your source package
[04:44] <Locke> czr: more than likely it's the same for other distros... any idea's?
[04:44] <czr> Locke, heh. then this is the wrong channel. try asking on the DSL mailing lists?
[04:44] <_jason> cantspeakslowl1, just ask, and if someone knows they will try
[04:44] <ssstormy> cd your_source_package_folder
[04:44] <ajmitch> Locke: it's not the same
[04:44] <ssstormy> ./configure --help
[04:44] <needhelp> whats the apt get command to uninstall?
[04:44] <czr> Locke, start linux with boot param 2
[04:44] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: try install network-manager?
[04:44] <czr> Locke, or 3, depending on distro
[04:44] <_jason> needhelp, apt-get remove
[04:44] <ssstormy> needhelp, apt-get remove
[04:44] <needhelp> thanx
[04:44] <cantspeakslowl1> I'm trying to set up grub on a dual boot install. fdisk -l shows ubuntu on /dev/hde1 and ntfs on /dev/hdf1. I'm following the instrctions at http://ubuntuguide.org/#addwindowsentrygrubmenu with root  (hd1,0) but it isn't working...
[04:44] <majd_> ssstormy, that did something....i don't know what though
[04:44] <Locke> czr: lol, first how do i do that, and second i don't think anybody even works on DSL anymore
[04:45] <majd_> it just showed me a bunch of files in the tar.gz
[04:45] <Malachi> Locke: I'm sure they do...
[04:45] <_jason> !ubuntuguide
[04:45] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot an generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[04:45] <Locke> Malachi: lol, the last version i saw in the distro library had been updated in 2003
[04:45] <czr> Locke, modify the kernel boot param line. I don't know how dsl does that so can't really help you there. might check /boot/grub/menu.lst and read how to config grub. or with lilo /etc/lilo.conf & lilo. with syslinux it's different, etc
[04:45] <majd_> how would i launch it? (it doesn't say in INSTALL file)
[04:45] <Malachi> Locke: =) Do people still use Windows ME?
[04:46] <ssstormy> majd_, here's how to build it
[04:46] <Locke> Malachi: no
[04:46] <Malachi> Locke: Sadly, yes.
[04:46] <ssstormy> ./configure
[04:46] <ssstormy> make
[04:46] <ssstormy> make install
[04:46] <Locke> Malachi: not in my world...
[04:46] <czr> Malachi, a lot of organisations are still using NT4
[04:46] <BxL> Locke, I use windows 2000
[04:46] <_jason> majd_, don't use make install, use checkinstall instead
[04:46] <Malachi> Locke: Invite me there, pleae.
[04:46] <Locke> Malachi: i never used ME... i used 98, XP and then Linux
[04:46] <_jason> ubotu, tell majd_ about checkinstall
[04:46] <aliesya82> hi kent
[04:46] <_jason> ssstormy, checkinstall is better than make install
[04:46] <Malachi> Locke: ME users should kill themselves. Ease the burdon on society
[04:46] <Kyral> Checkinstall EVIL
[04:46] <ssstormy> _jason, you're right, I forgot
[04:47] <Locke> Malachi: and never went back, ME wasn't even a real version in itself, it was just Windows 98 Third Edition
[04:47] <Malachi> Locke: But anyway, I didn't really like DSL.
[04:47] <_jason> Kyral, LIES
[04:47] <Locke> Malachi: i have a 133 MHz CPU computer i want to use as a file server and that is it
[04:47] <Malachi> Locke: (1) Because of the name, (2) Too small for me.
[04:47] <Kyral> _jason: TRUE!
[04:47] <bjron> quick question, how do I tell what options were used when I package was compiled?
[04:47] <ITSa341> <has dsl at the office, only choice is dsl or dial-up
[04:48] <[method] > has anyone here run into an issue where ubuntu is unable to connect to websites that start with a hyphen?
[04:48] <majd_> _jason, i replace sudo with the name of the .tar.gz file right?
[04:48] <needhelp> can anyone help me with gdesklets??
[04:48] <Locke> Malachi: trust me, i would MUCH rather Ubuntu, and once i get a better computer i'll turn this current PC i'm using into a server and keep Ubuntu Server on it, but until then, my little 133 is going to have to do
[04:48] <ssstormy> btw, I try to execute autogen.sh in the cvs gtkpod and libgpod packages (need CVS) and it tells me Checking for required M4 macros...
[04:48] <ssstormy>   libtool.m4 not found
[04:48] <ssstormy>   glib-gettext.m4 not found
[04:48] <ssstormy>   intltool.m4 not found
[04:48] <ssstormy>   pkg.m4 not found
[04:48] <_jason> majd_, that doesn't sound right, what command are you referring to exactly
[04:48] <ssstormy> Checking for forbidden M4 macros...
[04:48] <ssstormy> ***Error***: some autoconf macros required to build libgpod
[04:48] <tolstoy> can anyone help me with launchpad?  think i misfiled a bug
[04:48] <ssstormy>   were not found in your aclocal path, or some forbidden
[04:48] <majd_> sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[04:48] <ssstormy>   macros were found.  Perhaps you need to adjust your
[04:48] <ssstormy>   ACLOCAL_FLAGS?
[04:48] <Rick_Knight> tolstoy: I've installed network-manager, but there is no menu entry. What command starts it
[04:48] <_jason> ubotu, tell ssstormy about pastebin
[04:48] <ssstormy> I have installed those packages, so why can autogen not find them?
[04:48] <Malachi> Will DSL or any other linux distro run on a 4gig HD, 32meg PC?
[04:48] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: nm-applet
[04:49] <_jason> majd_, btw, is there a reason you aren't using the packaged gtkpod?
[04:49] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: I'm assuming that gnome and kde share the notification thing, right?  hopefully?
[04:49] <Malachi> Oops, Locke, that was addressed to you...
[04:49] <_jason> majd_, yes that will install 'checkinstall' for you
[04:50] <Locke> Malachi: the answer to this question sadly is no, not on THIS one, i've tried every method imaginable and yet i still can't get it Ubuntu Server to install
[04:50] <majd_> jason: where is the packaged gtkpod?
[04:50] <_jason> !info gtkpod
[04:50] <ubotu> gtkpod: (manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod), section universe/sound, is extra. Version: 0.94.0-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 486 kB, Installed size: 1992 kB
[04:50] <majd_> they only had the .tar.gz version on their sourceforge site
[04:50] <Rick_Knight> tolstoy: I have the gnome libs installed, so a lot of gnome apps work.
[04:50] <_jason> ubotu, tell majd_ about repos
[04:50] <Malachi> Locke: It's a shame....if you ever get it to work, please let me know....
[04:50] <Malachi> Locke: I have a lot of old PCs just lying around...
[04:51] <needhelp> can anyone help me with gdesklets??
[04:51] <Locke> Malachi: i have 486s lying around here, the PC i'm using now is 450 AMD
[04:51] <Malachi> Hrm...
[04:51] <Locke> needhelp: ask your question
[04:51] <shad0w1e> czr, changing to 16-bit color worked!!!
[04:51] <_jason> majd_, forget about compiling things in ubuntu.  It's very rare you will have to.
[04:51] <majd_> _jason, thank god!
[04:51] <Malachi> needhelp: Maybe....
[04:51] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: but if you don't have something for the applet to dock with....
[04:51] <Locke> Malachi: "supposedly" i'm supposed to get a 600 MHz pc tomorrow from someone
[04:51] <cantspeakslowl1> help.ubuntu.com refers to System->Administration->Boot which is NOT on my menu (http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#id2521330) -- any ideas where I can find the boot control panel, or the comman to bring it up ?
[04:51] <cdubya> hey Locke, you install dsl?
[04:51] <Malachi> Locke: Good luck.
[04:52] <Locke> cdubya: trying to now... i just asked a question a few minutes ago, hehe
[04:52] <czr> shad0w1e, good :-)
[04:52] <needhelp> every time I try to add a deskelet for xmms it gives me an error, I do not know how to fix this..In one of the error I get /home/luis/.gdesklets/Displays/OSXCornerXMMS-0.1.2/osxcornerxmms-bottomright.display
[04:52] <needhelp> >   1 xmms = get_control('IKXmms2:701uz5p7uot652wbszeprbeev-2')
[04:52] <cdubya> heh
[04:52] <_jason> majd_, just enable universe like that link ubotu sent you explains and you should be able to use synaptic or apt-get, whichever you prefer, to install gtkpod.  Let me know if you have any problems.
[04:52] <czr> shad0w1e, what is your native desktop color depth (in windows)?
[04:52] <cdubya> Locke, havin fun?
[04:52] <majd_> _jason, thanks sooo much i really apreciate it
[04:52] <Locke> cdubya: oh yeah...
[04:52] <cdubya> heh, yeah. :)
[04:53] <cdubya> Locke, did they ever switch to using apache?
[04:53] <Malachi> needhelp: What desklet are you using?
[04:53] <ssstormy> btw, I try to execute autogen.sh in the cvs gtkpod and libgpod packages (need CVS) and it tells me the following: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6983
[04:53] <abarbaccia> hey is there any way to script partitioning of disks?
[04:53] <czr> hmm. I wonder whether there is a program that reads in an audio c-tape, then automatically corrects any pitch skew that affected the recording ;-)
[04:53] <abarbaccia> i want to delete the partition on the disk and make a new one
[04:53] <McJerry> if i only have a root part and a swap part and am booted into root part how can i use gparted to resize the root part?
[04:53] <Rick_Knight> tolstoy: network-manager does not work on KDE. I get a lot of disk activity, but nothing else.
[04:53] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.10/+bug/6699
[04:53] <Locke> cdubya: no idea, it takes 16 minutes to get from startup to GUI, so i haven't fiddled with it much yet as you could imagine
[04:54] <needhelp> Im using 0.35.2
[04:54] <cdubya> Locke, no, they're still using Monkey web server.....
[04:54] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: I have no idea if bugs on launchpad get to the devs, but there it is, anyway.
[04:54] <varsendagger> !ff1.5
[04:54] <No1Viking> What app can I install so I can create gif animations?
[04:54] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:54] <Locke> cdubya: lol
[04:54] <Malachi> needhelp: No, what widget?
[04:54] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: re: network-manager.  maybe you can start gnome-panel?
[04:55] <varsendagger> No1Viking, i think  you can do that with gimp
[04:55] <[method] > could anyone help me out, I have a windows box that can load a website, but my ubuntu is unable to connect to it, ubuntu can't even ping it.
[04:55] <majd_> _jason, wow...that easy huh?
[04:55] <_jason> majd_, yep
[04:55] <No1Viking> varsendagger, ok, thanks
[04:55] <tolstoy> [method] : what's the web site?
[04:55] <Malachi> needhelp: Starterbar?
[04:55] <needhelp> OSXCornerXMMS
[04:55] <czr> does gimp even have gif export anymore?
[04:55] <czr> gif is evil
[04:55] <[method] > tolstoy: http://-method-.deviantart.com
[04:55] <needhelp> and all that I download to try to use with XMMS
[04:55] <Locke> cdubya: the help IRC channel is slighly helping, but i'm serious, if one more person calls me a lamer i swear my IQ is going to drop
[04:55] <No1Viking> czr, just do save as....
[04:55] <Madpilot> No1Viking: there's an animation plugin for the GIMP - search Synaptic for it, I can't remember what it's called
[04:56] <[method] > the only way I can get ubuntu to connect to it is by using a proxy
[04:56] <czr> nolviking, I don't use gifs ever :-)
[04:56] <No1Viking> Madpilot, ok
[04:56] <czr> just was suprised to learn that gimp has gif support, gif has been pretty much removed from all open source software
[04:56] <tolstoy> [method] : I get something if I remove the -'s from around the word "method".
[04:56] <cdubya> Locke, lol.....
[04:56] <cdubya> heh
[04:57] <varsendagger> No1Viking, check out GUG for info ( gimp user group)
[04:57] <cdubya> Locke, what's the problem?
[04:57] <[method] > yeah, but that some guy named method, my username on the site is -method-
[04:57] <varsendagger> GUG.org
[04:57] <Madpilot> No1Viking: gimp-gap
[04:57] <czr> [method] , - is an illegal character to start DNS labels
[04:57] <[method] > all my windows boxes can do it
[04:57] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: the bug is actually at: https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/6999
[04:57] <czr> [method] , windowses don't adhere to standards
[04:57] <Locke> cdubya: just formatting the damn hard drive at the moment
[04:57] <[method] > ah
[04:57] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: oh, wait, not it isn't. Hm.
[04:57] <needhelp> ??
[04:57] <cdubya> Locke, heh
[04:57] <No1Viking> Got it Madpilot. Installed now!
[04:57] <[method] > is there any way to get around that>
[04:58] <No1Viking> Thanks guys!
[04:58] <No1Viking> :)
[04:58] <veronica> i'm need help with setting up usb wireless adapter?
[04:58] <czr> [method] , use windows? if you don't like to play with the standards, use something that doesn't respect them :-)
[04:58] <Madpilot> No1Viking: np
[04:58] <Malachi> needhelp: I'm sorry, it's not like me to just leave a person hanging after already getting started with their question,
[04:58] <Malachi> but I must go.
[04:58] <Rick_Knight> tolstoy: I found the bug report. I'll second it if possible, but I think I'm done for tonight. I'll be around here tomorrow.
[04:58] <czr> [method] , seriously, try nslookup -method-.blah.blah on command line, what does it give?
[04:58] <Malachi> needhelp: Problems have aroused.
[04:58] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: er. http://launchpad.net/maline/bugs/6699.
[04:58] <shadowplay> are ubuntu binaries 386 compatible?  Or are they 586 & up?
[04:59] <Malachi> needhelp: I'm sorry...maybe Googling the error will help.
[04:59] <Malachi> I must go.
[04:59] <tolstoy> Rick_Knight: okay.  I figure if there's two of us, it means we're not crazy.
[04:59] <[method] > well, the only way I can find, if I use a proxy I can get to the site, so I will continue to do that
[04:59] <Rick_Knight> tolstoy: I hope you're right! Bye for now.
[04:59] <czr> [method] , the proxy is running windows, right? :-)
[05:00] <[method] > no idea, it's just some random proxy
[05:00] <czr> [method] , it's a dns resolution problem, standard dns resolvers will probably refuse to even attempt at finding anything starting with '-'
[05:00] <czr> [method] , must be something non-unix based then. just continue using proxy then, but know that standards based stuff won't be able to access your 'site'
[05:01] <veronica> yeah thanks guys!
[05:01] <[method] > well, it's deviantart, maybe I can get them to change my name, seeing that it doesn't fit a standard
[05:01] <[method] > thanks for your input..
[05:02] <czr> method, that would be recommendable I guess. just remove the special characters from the front and that's enough :-)
[05:02] <matrix> i need help?
[05:02] <czr> it's ok to have - in the name, just not start a name with it
[05:02] <matrix> my systems used all memory
[05:02] <qwe> hmm, my pentium-m starts up throttled down to 800mhz on startup and I can't seem to raise it back up to its full speed
[05:02] <cdubya> Locke, what were you going to use dsl for again?
[05:02] <qwe> anyone have any ideas?
[05:03] <czr> qwe, what is the max speed of it? (rated)?
[05:03] <qwe> czr: 1.73ghz
[05:03] <czr> qwe, hmmh. someone else had exact same problem
[05:03] <czr> qwe, is it a new laptop?
[05:03] <qwe> czr: relatively. since october
[05:03] <czr> (not related to ubuntu, this problem is)
[05:03] <czr> qwe, has it run at max speed in any linux then?
[05:03] <qwe> yes, when I had gentoo
[05:04] <czr> qwe, ah. hmmh. which kernel version did you run on gentoo?
[05:04] <qwe> I just installed ubuntu since I lost my root partition and I don't have time to reinstall
[05:04] <qwe> 2.6.14
[05:04] <czr> and what is the kernel version you have now?
[05:04] <qwe> .12 I think
[05:04] <czr> the speedstep tables are updated in each kernel
[05:04] <czr> that might be it then
[05:04] <qwe> yeah hmm
[05:04] <ToRTuReD_X> man this sucks
[05:04] <qwe> maybe I'll do a stage 3
[05:04] <ToRTuReD_X> anyone wanna tell me if there are new repositories and what they are?
[05:04] <czr> qwe, or just build a new kernel in ubuntu for ubuntu
[05:05] <ToRTuReD_X> been a LONG time since i used ubuntu
[05:05] <ToRTuReD_X> ;/
[05:05] <czr> qwe, probably will go away with new kernel. the other person was running p-m rated over 2GHz with 2.6.15 and that didn't have the speedstep info yet, so stuck at 800MHz
[05:05] <qwe> czr: bleh. if I have learn how to do that I might as well go back to a system I already know like the back of my hand ;)
[05:05] <qwe> ahhh
[05:05] <czr> qwe, building kernel for ubuntu is exactly the same as for gentoo
[05:05] <czr> since building the kernel is always the same, go figure ;-)
[05:06] <qwe> oh, you don't do any dpkg nonsense?
[05:06] <czr> depends on how you do it obviously
[05:06] <czr> you don't have to if you don't want to
[05:06] <qwe> meh
[05:06] <czr> download source, extract, config, build, install
[05:06] <qwe> yup
[05:06] <qwe> done that so many times I've lost count
[05:06] <majd_> weird, i just installed curl (ftp) and it said it worked fine, but i can't find it
[05:06] <matrix> why ubuntu used full memory?
[05:06] <czr> qwe, you might also look for a precompiled kernel package for ubuntu from somewhere that has newer kernel than .12
[05:07] <czr> qwe, but I don't know where you should even start, I normally build my own if the stock kernel isn't satisfactory. you lose the graphical bootsplash, but meh :-)
[05:07] <_jason> I just noticed that totem-xine isn't playing certain sound for me anymore.  mplayer will play files fine.  This just started.  I've tried .wmv and a random avi I downloaded from the web and both don't have sound.  mp3's however do play fine with sound.  Any ideas?
[05:07] <shadowplay> fyi answered my own Q.  Wiki says ubuntu runs on 386
[05:07] <czr> shadowplay, good to know
[05:07] <qwe> czr: yeah, well installing ubuntu was just a quick fix anyway. I might just go back and reinstall gentoo this weekend
[05:07] <czr> qwe, ah ok, have fun then :-)
[05:08] <ssstormy> does anyone know where crossover office puts the stupid files in My Documents?  Like, where they are stored on the host linux system?
[05:08] <czr> dapper will have a .15 kernel qwe
[05:08] <czr> dapper, normally distros select a kernel for a release and then stick with it. kernel is not upgraded during a release (except for critical security fixes)
[05:08] <qwe> czr: meh. like I said, I wasn't intending to stick with ubuntu forever anyway, I just wanted to get something up quick
[05:08] <qwe> can't beat a 30-min install
[05:08] <czr> but ubuntu is nice :-)
[05:09] <czr> actually you can, but not's let get into there :-)
[05:09] <erratic> hey how do I make this go away W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[05:09] <shadowplay> czr: sort of.  Gentoo ppl complain that makes it slow.  Why maybe technically true, but I haven't noticed the difference on a 1g p3.
[05:09] <erratic> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[05:09] <erratic> root@Alice:/etc/apt#
[05:09] <czr> shadowplay, gentoo people complain about everything that isn't gentoo :-)
[05:09] <tolstoy> _jason: the only time i had odd problems was installing pre-breezy over hoary and having polypaudio still trying to run the show.
[05:09] <erratic> how do I make that go away??
[05:09] <qwe> czr: ubuntu is nice, but I'm enough of a power user that anything that isn't gentoo isn't good eough ;)
[05:09] <erratic> not really
[05:09] <erratic> it won't let me use my french package repository
[05:10] <_jason> tolstoy, hrmm I'm using alsa.  I just don't see how it started all of a sudden.  Maybe it was the last batch of updates.
[05:10] <erratic> because the french can't have encryption
[05:10] <czr> qwe, how many years have you used linux daily?
[05:10] <erratic> so no it's really not that nice
[05:10] <qwe> czr: 3+ years now I think
[05:10] <s_spiff{AWAY}> hey..is there a way i can get totem movie player to play .asf files?
[05:10] <erratic> you can't because linux is gay
[05:10] <shadowplay> czr: lol. no, it was just suprising to hear though.  *personally* they're my two fav. distros.
[05:10] <_jason> s_spiff{AWAY}, I think they'll play if you install w32codecs
[05:10] <erratic> and nobdy here will help
[05:10] <erratic> seriously
[05:10] <_jason> s_spiff{AWAY}, and totem-xine
[05:10] <erratic> screw it
[05:10] <erratic> nope
[05:10] <czr> qwe, ah ok :-). after 10 years of linux I like it simple ;-)
[05:10] <erratic> no codecs for you
[05:11] <qwe> czr: heheh
[05:11] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ok..
[05:11] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  will check it out
[05:11] <shadowplay> yup, linux interoperates well with linux.  it's gay. :-)
[05:11] <s_spiff{AWAY}> erratic, no codecs for whom?
[05:11] <erratic> your mom
[05:11] <qwe> czr: to each his own :) so far I've found ubuntu to be pretty nice
[05:11] <erratic> it sucks
[05:11] <_jason> erratic, no one is going to help you with that attitude...
[05:11] <erratic> oh yeah?
[05:11] <erratic> well nobody's ever gonna do your mom
[05:11] <qwe> erratic: yeah
[05:11] <BxL> bleh
[05:11] <s_spiff{AWAY}> _jason, any chances that I'll find it on the Synaptic?
[05:11] <erratic> because she's so fat
[05:11] <BxL> !ops
[05:11] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, johndarkhorse or nalioth.
[05:11] <czr> qwe, indeed. don't worry, you will learn why gentoo is not good for everything in time :-). ubuntu is suprisingly nice, and getting nice by each release.
[05:12] <erratic> so shut the the fuck up troll go back under your bridge
[05:12] <_jason> ubotu, tell s_spiff{AWAY} about w32codecs
[05:12] <ITSa341> Bye erratic
[05:12] <erratic> bye your mom
[05:12] <s_spiff{AWAY}> thanks _jason
[05:12] <_jason> s_spiff{AWAY}, w32codecs at the link ubotu sent you.  totem-xine is in synaptic
[05:12] <czr> nicer even :-), anyhow, the speed-issue should be fixed with a newer kernel, have fun
[05:13] <majd_> how do you uninstall stuff?
[05:13] <shadowplay> qwe: gentoo and ubuntu have in common very good docs/forums. imho
[05:13] <qwe> czr: thanks :) I just can't live without use flags
[05:13] <_jason> majd_, just right click on the package in synaptic and select 'remove'
[05:13] <erratic> sorrie, I'm a little more than pissed that apt now checks for a repository signature *by default* and doesn't really give any indication how to turn it off
[05:13] <czr> qwe, would just an us flag do? I could mail you one :-)
[05:13] <qwe> shadowplay: haven't had much experience with the ubuntu forums but that's what I've heard
[05:13] <erratic> nor have I found a way using google which is rediculous
[05:13] <shadowplay> qwe: --omg-optimize!
[05:13] <qwe> czr: heheheh
[05:13] <majd_> _jason, thanks
[05:14] <qwe> shadowplay: I'm not an idiot ;)
[05:14] <_jason> majd_, actually it may be 'uninstall', but you'll see something there that obviously uninstalls
[05:14] <majd_> yeah
[05:14] <cdubya> ssstormy, you ever get an answer to your question?
[05:14] <majd_> what ftp client do you recomment?
[05:14] <majd_> *recommend?
[05:14] <qwe> ftp
[05:14] <erratic> ncftp
[05:14] <qwe> :P
[05:14] <BxL> majd_, gftp
[05:14] <czr> seriously though, I rarely recommend gentoo for newbies, but I think it might be (just might) be a better learning vessel than LFS nowadays for people in a hurry
[05:14] <shadowplay> qwe: no, but it's a funny page: funroll-loops.org  :-)
[05:14] <WorstPhobia> Is there a way to use the Windows Key in Ubuntu?
[05:14] <czr> rarely = newer that is :-)
[05:14] <qwe> shadowplay: I've seen it ;)
[05:15] <qwe> czr: I've learned more about linux through gentoo than I have through any other distribution
[05:15] <majd_> bxl, do i want common or gtk?
[05:15] <joseph> hey, does anyone have a lot of experience with getting hardware to work in linux???
[05:15] <qwe> besides, portage rocks
[05:15] <erratic>  ubuntu sux
[05:15] <majd_> what's the difference?
[05:15] <czr> qwe, that was my point. I used to recommend LFS when gentoo was crap and before it existed
[05:15] <WorstPhobia> Never mind, I'll ask tomorrow.
[05:15] <qwe> joseph: wow, could you be more vague?
[05:15] <joseph> i can't get my laptop to come out of standby
[05:15] <czr> qwe, for people who wanted to get their hands dirty that is
[05:15] <ssstormy> cdubya, nope, none of them so far
[05:15] <qwe> joseph: hold the power button until it turns off
[05:16] <qwe> czr: I did LFS back in the day. took forever, wasn't really worth it
[05:16] <cdubya> ssstormy, .wine/drive_c/Program_Files ...... is that what you were wanting?
[05:16] <erratic> ubuntu sux
[05:16] <qwe> booted up damn fast though
[05:16] <czr> joseph, you might also need to remove the battery out of the laptop (and remove power cord) for some laptops with buggy bioses
[05:16] <BxL> erratic, why?
[05:16] <tolstoy> sethk: FINALLY: I got wireless working by install ipw2200 driver 0.19 (+ 2.2 firmware)
[05:16] <cdubya> ssstormy, not sure about crossover office.....if that's how it handles it for sure.....
[05:16] <joseph> no, i need it to standby, not turn off
[05:16] <qwe> are there no ops in here?
[05:16] <shadowplay> BxL: what's erratic?
[05:16] <erratic> scrool up
[05:16] <sethk> tolstoy, which driver did you replace, and which firmware?
[05:16] <czr> qwe, well, it's more pedagogic than useful :-) gentoo is somewhere in between of useful and pedagogic
[05:16] <erratic> scroll*
[05:17] <qwe> czr: personally, I use it for the level of control it offers
[05:17] <tolstoy> sethk: firmware was 2.3.  not sure which driver.  can I "strings *.ko" to find out?
[05:17] <czr> qwe, you don't mind rebuilding stuff all the time?
[05:17] <sethk> tolstoy, not important, I was just curious.
[05:17] <shadowplay> czr: it makes running games easier (gentoo that is)
[05:17] <joseph> but im lookin for someone who knows enough about linux to help me diagnose it, non of the forums are helpin me
[05:17] <czr> shadowplay, xbox makes running games easier I think ;-)
[05:17] <batman> hey does anyone know where i can find a guide to setting up the partitions for a dual boot between windows and ubuntu?
[05:18] <czr> or ps2, which ever really.
[05:18] <qwe> czr: nah, the only thing that takes annoyingly long are kde packages
[05:18] <erratic> Reading package lists... Done
[05:18] <erratic> W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[05:18] <czr> qwe, you don't upgrade libc too often then? ;-)
[05:18] <qwe> shadowplay: yeah that too... enemy territory was a breeze to install
[05:18] <erratic> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[05:18] <erratic> need help...
[05:18] <joseph> batman, gentoo's is the one that will teach you the best
[05:18] <erratic> root@Alice:/etc/apt#
[05:18] <qwe> czr: nope
[05:18] <tolstoy> sethk: modinfo the-file-right-there.ko worked.  It's 1.0.6.  They're up to 1.0.10 now.
[05:18] <czr> qwe, why would you run buggy critical libraries then?
[05:18] <erratic> Reading package lists... Done
[05:18] <erratic> W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[05:18] <qwe> czr: I wouldn't call glibc buggy ;)
[05:18] <erratic> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[05:19] <czr> qwe, you wouldn't? hehe. I certainly would. so much code, so little time :-)
[05:19] <ajmitch> erratic: stop pasting that
[05:19] <erratic> I can't
[05:19] <erratic> until someone helps me
[05:19] <erratic> I'm sorry
[05:19] <ajmitch> yes you can
[05:19] <czr> qwe, anyhow, I think we agree that we agree, have fun in stage 3 :-)
[05:19] <erratic> Ignoring you
[05:19] <qwe> czr: will do :)
[05:19] <czr> I need to finish editing audio for a while now
[05:19] <tolstoy> sethk: the price of this old driver: no pretty blue light for the wirless.
[05:19] <shadowplay> czr: actually, I upgraded my ubuntu kernel via synaptic, and nvidia broke.  I even tried installing from nvidia's site.  I'm going to try recompiling nvidia again, but that doesn't buy me anything over gentoo ;-)
[05:19] <qwe> ajmitch: he needs a good kicking
[05:19] <tolstoy> RickKnight: It works!!!!!
[05:20] <Madpilot> ajmitch: just kick erratic please, he's been trolling for a few minutes now...
[05:20] <erratic> your mom needs a good kicking
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> install the key, or install it and tell it to ignroe the warning,
[05:20] <sethk> tolstoy, I guess that's worth it if it actually works.  :)
[05:20] <joseph> hmm, so no one here knows how to get hardware working?? (specifically power management stuff so my standby stops locking the computer)
[05:20] <shadowplay> czr: i'm *not* trolling.  it's a real problem i'm having.
[05:20] <qwe> ah, he kicked himself
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:20] <czr> shadowplay, I didn't think you were trolling :-)
[05:20] <ajmitch> tolstoy: the led can be turned on
[05:20] <RickKnight> tolstoy: What works!
[05:20] <czr> shadowplay, can't help with nvidia though, I don't touch closed binary crap
[05:20] <shadowplay> czr: nod.
[05:20] <tolstoy> RickKnight: driver 0.19
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> shadowplay,  i think when you install the kernel. you often have to reinstall the nvidia packages. (but i though it did that autpmaticially)
[05:21] <qwe> czr: I wish I could afford not to, but I can't get any gl performance worth a toot without 'em
[05:21] <VR^> Hey all, how do i launch the firefox profile manager? (i installed ff 1.5 by following the guide, if that makes a difference)
[05:21] <tolstoy> ajmitch: with this old driver?  I don't even see anything in /sys/bus/pci/etc/etc/etc.
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> shadowplay,  unless the kernel you installed is one that has issues with nvidia stuff.
[05:21] <czr> qwe, I feel your pain
[05:21] <_jason> VR^, firefox -profilemanager
[05:21] <RickKnight> tolstoy:80211-1.1.9?
[05:21] <czr> qwe, I've been putting on one low level opengl project for couple of years now because of this reason
[05:22] <ajmitch> tolstoy: hm, maybe not with the old driver :) - I'm using the ipw2200 driver
[05:22] <VR^> _jason: thanks
[05:22] <czr> qwe, then again, I'm lucky enough to have confusingly large array of other projects to work on, so I'll survive
[05:22] <shadowplay> Dr_Willis: yeah, I did, several times.  but perhaps i did thinks in the wrong order.  I do notice ubuntu is using agpgart, and the (working) setup i have on gentoo isnt.
[05:22] <tolstoy> RickKnight: nope. the ipw2200-0.19.  It doesn't require the separate ieee80211 build.
[05:23] <czr> shadowplay, nvidia binary drivers program the agp GART directly, so the kernel agpgart module would get into the way
[05:23] <picasso> ajmitch: do you have to recompile each time you upgrade kernel?
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> shadowplay,  there is an agpgart module I though. but really with ubuntu on my 4 systems and nvidia - its been totally trivial to get it working.
[05:23] <tolstoy> ajmitch: yeah, the options ipw2200 led=1 trick is rejected with this driver.  I can live with it until the crack ubuntu staff sorts out the problem.
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> shadowplay,  i was amazed at how well it worked.
[05:23] <joseph> hmm, so no one here knows how to get hardware working?? (specifically power management stuff so my standby stops locking the computer)
[05:23] <shadowplay> Dr_Willis: I switched between the nviida and the legacy nvidia too, along with doing a custom kernel... so i really need to start from scratch
[05:23] <ajmitch> tolstoy: aha, I'm using ipw2200 (in dapper) now with that option
[05:23] <qwe> czr: heh. I wish the open-source driver scene moved along faster
[05:24] <tolstoy> RickKnight: the ipw2200 0.19 driver is what ships with hoary.
[05:24] <RickKnight> tolstoy: where does the ipw2200-0.1.9 come from.
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> joseph,  theres often issues with apci and the power saving stuff in laptops. sadly.     best bet - disable/dont use the standby feature
[05:24] <tolstoy> ajmitch: for some reason, neither dapper nor breezy work with the HP nw8240
[05:24] <Guest64999> have the drive Agere/Lucent v.92 for Ubuntu ?
[05:24] <ajmitch> tolstoy: what issues, and are they fileed as bugs?
[05:24] <tolstoy> RickKnight: under downloads at ipw2200.sf.net, choose the [more]  link.
[05:24] <RickKnight> tolstoy: I downloaded the 2.4 firmware and now I have an interface.
[05:24] <joseph> Dr_Willis, so u don't think there's a way to get it to work under linux?
[05:24] <petoix> hi
[05:25] <petoix> i installed ubuntu
[05:25] <petoix> and my sound isnt working whY?
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> joseph,  totally depends on the laptop and kernel.. google for your specific laptop and linux support. It may be some bug/issue thats being worked on.
[05:25] <tolstoy> ajmitch: https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/6699
[05:25] <shadowplay> petoix: did you run alsamixer?
[05:25] <RickKnight> tolstoy: So 0.1.9 is old. It will build on 2.6?
[05:25] <joseph> Dr_Willis, ya, i've done that, that's why im turning to IRC
[05:25] <tolstoy> ajmitch: I have no confidence I filed it correctly over there, so if you know what to do....
[05:25] <petoix> nope how do i run it sir ?
[05:25] <tolstoy> RickKnight: yeap.
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> joseph,  how new is the laptop? whats the cpu and stuff?
[05:26] <andre_> i need some help, pvt-me, plz
[05:26] <andre_> =p
[05:26] <shadowplay> petoix: hang-on there's a howto i think
[05:26] <RickKnight> tolstoy: does it do encryption? WPA?
[05:26] <tolstoy> RickKnight: it'll complain about a dupe function, I think, but you just comment out the offending code.
[05:26] <tolstoy> tolstoy: no idea.
[05:26] <tolstoy> RickKnight: but if you can confirm, that's at least something.
[05:26] <petoix> k
[05:26] <joseph> Dr_Willis, it's rather old, hp ze4420, pentium celeron 2.0 ghz
[05:26] <petoix> i ran it now and a dialog poped up
[05:27] <r0ver> hello, what cdburner do you suggest for ubuntu ? (are there something like k3b for gnome ?)
[05:27] <ajmitch> tolstoy: ah, the problem being that malone hasn't been used for bugs filed in main - they're switching in the next week or so
[05:27] <bamm`laptop> gnomebaker
[05:27] <petoix> also when i minimize a window it disappers and i have to use Alt + Tab to change
[05:28] <petoix> why?
[05:28] <tolstoy> RickKnight: the driver (0.19) seems to require ieee80211_crypt, so, praps.
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> joseph,  could be it need some kernel options to get it working right..  but it may just be it has  issues no one has bothered to patch the kernel to work around.
[05:28] <Guest64999> Do have the drive Agere/Lucent v.92 for Ubuntu ?
[05:28] <RickKnight> tolstoy: Yes, it is something. I'll do it tomorrow. When I installed the 2.4 firmware and things worked as far as an interface, I thought I had it solved. Now I just can't get the IP address. Something to do tomorrow.
[05:28] <tolstoy> ajmitch: should I refile back in bugzilla? timfrost said they were turning that off within hours.
[05:28] <Madpilot> r0ver: k3b works in Gnome - many of Gnome's native burners seem buggy, TBH...
[05:28] <bimberi> r0ver: nautilus is good for data cds, there's serpentine for audio, otherwise gnomebaker or graveman
[05:28] <joseph> Dr_Willis, that's the thing, i need someone who's good enough to help me to find out if i can keep linux on here
[05:28] <ajmitch> tolstoy: yes, it's being switched very soon now
[05:28] <tolstoy> RickKnight: just letting you know so you can start bright and early, then, if it works, have an EXCELLENT rest of the day.
[05:29] <tolstoy> ajmitch: should I refile in regular bugzilla?
[05:29] <petoix> .... anyone ?
[05:29] <ajmitch> tolstoy: the fact that you get an ip via dhcp indicates that the wireless is certainly working to a degree
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> joseph,  i disable all that hibernate/suspend crud - even under windows :P i find its more hassle then its worth.
[05:29] <RickKnight> tolstoy: ieee80211_crypt is one of the extra kernel things kubuntu adds.
[05:29] <ajmitch> tolstoy: probably not worth it
[05:29] <r0ver> Madpilot: including gnomebaker ? (is it buggy too ?)
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> joseph,  could check the ubuntu laptop forum.. or other disrto laptop forums even.
[05:29] <tolstoy> ajmitch: I will if I get no changes or comments on that bug for a few days.
[05:29] <petoix> ..
[05:29] <zuverink> How can i boot staight to init 3?
[05:29] <joseph> Dr_Willis, ya, but it's rather important to me.  I've looked under tons of forums
[05:30] <fluffyashes> Can anyone help me with a broken gksu
[05:30] <RickKnight> tolstoy: Well, that really is it for me. Tomorrow get here too fast. night all.
[05:30] <ajmitch> tolstoy: you assume that every bug will be attended to in a few days
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> zuverink,  edit the grub kernel= line and add '3' to the end. is one way
[05:30] <tolstoy> RickKnight: I removed ieee802* stuff and ipw2200* stuff before installing 0.19.  It works. ;)
[05:30] <petoix> well ?
[05:30] <petoix> isnt this the help channel ?
[05:31] <tolstoy> ajmitch: yes!  and why not, be-damned!  Well, I'll revisit in a few days and see if I should prod or poke.
[05:31] <fluffyashes> Can someone help me with broken gksu i can't access any gui that requires root password.
[05:31] <shadowplay> petoix: try applications --> sound & video --> mixer ?
[05:31] <Madpilot> r0ver: I haven't used it since upgrading to Breezy; the Hoary version burnt coasters for me, though
[05:31] <petoix> mixer ?
[05:31] <zuverink> Dr_Willis: I hit the kernel line, hit "e" added the 3, but it still boots graphical
[05:31] <Madpilot> fluffyashes: use your own user password
[05:31] <Madpilot> !tell fluffyashes about root
[05:31] <shadowplay> petoix: (sorry i don't have ubuntu running at the moment so i don't knew the exact name of the app)
[05:31] <fluffyashes> Madpilot: it doesn't give me a chance to enter my password it just says i've entered it wrong
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> zuverink,  could just disable the GDM service..
[05:32] <petoix> ok
[05:32] <shadowplay> petoix: volume control should do it too, if you open it
[05:32] <r0ver> Madpilot, bimberi, bamm`laptop: thanks friends!, i'll do a couple of test and maybe i write the results on my blog. Thanks again.
[05:32] <fluffyashes> Madpilot: i have all access to thing through the gui with sudo and su
[05:32] <fluffyashes> Madpilot: excuse me i meant terminal not gui in that last message
[05:32] <petoix> k dont worry about it
[05:32] <Madpilot> fluffyashes: have you actually created a root account?
[05:33] <zuverink> Dr_Willis: I am trying to install an nvidia card(pci) it displays until the dm starts and then i loose display
[05:33] <shadowplay> petoix: as for the disapearing windows, you can right click on a gnome-panel (the 'start' bar) and add an applet that shows all the running apps
[05:33] <blink56k> hi
[05:33] <petoix> sec
[05:33] <zuverink> Dr_Willis: so I cant get to gdm
[05:34] <petoix> wheres the gnome-panel
[05:34] <petoix> ?
[05:34] <Madpilot> petoix: the bars at the top & bottom of your desktop
[05:34] <petoix> yes but there is no "start"
[05:35] <czr> lol. my system just booted itself :-)
[05:35] <czr> not this one obviously, but still :-)
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> zuverink,  try 'alt-ctrl-f1' to get to a console and then kill the gdm service?
[05:35] <petoix> also when i minimize a window it disappers and i have to use Alt + Tab to change!
[05:35] <majd_> hey everyone, i installed gftp through the synaptic packet manager
[05:35] <petoix> ffs.
[05:35] <majd_> but i can't figure out how to open it
[05:36] <blink56k> I'm trying to remove ubuntu on this machine but by reinstalling windows all I get is a messed grub bootloader that won't boot anything.  What I did was make grub bootable from a CD but don't understand any of the commands on it.  Can anyone help? Thanks
[05:36] <fluffyashes> majd_ it should have a shortcut in Applications>INternet>gftp
[05:36] <Madpilot> petoix: app windows should show up in your bottom panel
[05:36] <majd_> fluffyashes, it isn't there though, i looked
[05:36] <shadowplay> petoix: right-click on either bar --> add. choose windowlist.
[05:36] <petoix> nope
[05:37] <petoix> wait
[05:37] <bamm`laptop> blink put in the windows disk, let it go to part where says "hit r to repair" .. when you login you'll get a little dos prompt type thing.. type "fixmbr"
[05:37] <_jason> I have no sound when I play a .wmv in totem-xine (I have tried a random avi as well and the problem persists).  However, mp3's will produce sound just fine.  The movies play fine in mplayer.  This just started happening, it was working fine before.  xine-ui behaves the same way.  Any ideas?
[05:37] <Madpilot> shadowplay: thanks, that was going to be my next suggestion! :P
[05:37] <NigelS> blink56k: windows should have overwritten the mbr, is the drive to which you've installed windows not the drive which you boot off?
[05:37] <petoix> ahh thanx :D
[05:37] <fluffyashes> majd_: try typing gFTP in a console
[05:37] <bamm`laptop> blink56k, read above comment  :] 
[05:37] <fluffyashes> majd_: also go to Applications>SystemTools>Applications Menu Editor
[05:37] <vskye> majd - try opening a terminal and type in "gftp"\\\\\\\\\
[05:37] <blink56k> i don't have a windows cd...windows came pre-installed on my machine...the way i reinstall it is by booting into the "recovery partition" my manufacturer put in
[05:38] <zuverink> Dr_Willis: still no display, I alt+ctrl+F1 and nothing happens
[05:38] <blink56k> so when i boot after the windows installation, grub is still there and is basically screwed
[05:38] <NigelS> blink56k: how distasteful.  You can overwrite the mbr as bamm`laptop says by using the fdisk /mbr command which you can access from the recovery console
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> zuverink,  interesting..
[05:38] <fluffyashes> or a simple format mbr
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> zuverink,  could use the rescue/recover/failsafe (whjatever its called) menu item to boot to a non-X system
[05:39] <blink56k> i'm not sure if i can really overwrite it from the recovery console... :(...is there any other way to do it
[05:39] <shadowplay> petoix: did you get sound working?
[05:39] <blink56k> the recovery environment is the one provided by ibm/lenovo
[05:40] <s_spiff{AWAY}> hey need help here..
[05:40] <fluffyashes> Can someone help me with a gksu problem? i am unable to use any graphical program that requires root permission
[05:40] <petoix> nope
[05:40] <bamm`laptop> blink56k,  you could boot into live disk and add it to grub list for _easiest_ way to fix without windows disk (at least i think easiest)
[05:40] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  ?I had certain fav/history in Windows Opera Browser..where can i find it?
[05:40] <s_spiff{AWAY}> i want to check out a link..i cant remeber it..and only way i can get is thru the history of the browser
[05:41] <Madpilot> fluffyashes: please ask before pm'ing people
[05:41] <blink56k> add what to grub list?
[05:41] <shadowplay> petoix: applications --> sound & video --> volume control
[05:41] <zuverink> Dr_Willis: how do you reconfigure Xorg?
[05:41] <petoix> yea..
[05:41] <Psi-Jack> Hey guys.. I have an spca50x-based webcam, and when it's hooked into my USB 2.0 NEC-based PCI controller, it crashes my system trying to use it. But now that I hooked it up to my on-board USB 1.1 VIA-based controller, it's working absolutely perfectly (except crappy quality so far).   Anyone have any ideas as to why this is happening?
[05:41] <petoix> doen that
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> s_spiff{AWAY},  proberly in the c:/documents and settiings/username/application data dir
[05:41] <shadowplay> petoix: if there are red x's at the bottom of each slider, that means the channel is muted
[05:41] <DACRepair> how do i mount  is it "Mount <location> <Dstination> <option> <Filesystem>"?
[05:42] <fluffyashes> Madpilot: i just figured it would be easier, sorry. I also didn't realize that it was any different from a name with a : after it.  I am sorta new to xchat
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> zuverink,  I forget the 'proper' way to do it. .. ive never had to mess with it that much. :P the ubuntu wiki has the details
[05:42] <shadowplay> petoix: petoix click on it to enable it
[05:42] <blink56k> cant i just reinstall windows from the reovery partition and when i restart, use grub from a cd (not an ubuntu live cd, but a grub alone live cd) so that i cant continue into the windows installation
[05:43] <DACRepair> zuverink, it should be ./xorg config
[05:43] <blink56k> ^can
[05:43] <NigelS> blink56k: if you're getting to a grub console, why not just point it at where windows is
[05:43] <blink56k> the grub live cd works, i just don't know any commands to put after the grub> prompt
[05:43] <fluffyashes> Can anyone help me with gksu, I cannot use any graphical program that requires root permission.
[05:43] <blink56k> thats what i dont know how to do
[05:43] <shadowplay> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:43] <blink56k> it's not one of those "select yours os" prompts
[05:43] <petoix> k
[05:44] <petoix> ehh there was no x's
[05:45] <shadowplay> petoix: ok, and the volume sliders are up right?
[05:45] <fluffyashes> Does no one want to help me? ive asked like 4 times
[05:46] <petoix> yes
[05:46] <NigelS> blink56k: press ? for options I think; then set the root drive to the place where windows is, so root (hdX,X) iirc and then "makeactive" and then b to boot
[05:46] <_jason> fluffyashes, what happens when you try to use it?
[05:46] <shadowplay> fluffyashes: quick workaround... open a terminal, sudo <name_of_program> &
[05:46] <Madpilot> fluffyashes: I might have asked already - but have you enabled the root account?
[05:46] <Mabus06> I used source-o-matic to generate a sources.list, and did the keys thing that the page had said to do, but I still get errors when installing packages or apt-get update
[05:46] <blink56k> so whent he grub prompt shows up i tipe root sda1? and then makeactive and then boot?
[05:46] <_jason> Mabus06, can you pastebin the errors?
[05:47] <blink56k> hdX, X (whats the second x for)
[05:47] <Kachingo> Howdy
[05:47] <bamm`laptop> number of partition
[05:47] <bamm`laptop> hd0 hd1
[05:47] <DrZeus> Hi all.  HOw can I do to submit a patch for the kernel of the next release? I mean, is it possible?
[05:47] <fluffyashes> _jason: It tells me that i have entered an incorrect password, it doesn't even give me a chance to enter one
[05:47] <fluffyashes> shadowplay: that does absolutely nothing besides give me a pid, no window pops up
[05:47] <NigelS> blink56k: no that wasn't what I said, the X and X stand for the drive number and the partition number, e.g. (hd0,0)
[05:47] <czr> DrZeus, what kind of patch?
[05:47] <_jason> fluffyashes, as Madpilot asked, did you enable the root account?
[05:47] <shadowplay> petoix: open a terminal (i think it's applications --> accessories -> terminal; or console)
[05:47] <fluffyashes> Madpilot: i've been able to use sudo and su freely so i guess root is enabled
[05:48] <Madpilot> fluffyashes: you're currently logged in with your normal user account, though?
[05:48] <blink56k> root hda1, 1 then makeactive then , boot...are those the three commands?
[05:48] <DrZeus> because there was a problem with the acpi of my laptop an needed a patch for the kernel, and a patch for the patch itself(how funny is that).  Breezy couldn't detect the battery state
[05:48] <fluffyashes> Madpilot: yes
[05:48] <NigelS> blink56k: I think you need to press the command "e" to entire the edit mode to begin with.
[05:48] <petoix> yes i know that.
[05:48] <fluffyashes> _jason: I JUST turned on the ability to login to the root account
[05:48] <shadowplay> fluffyashes: that's wierd.  try something like sudo ls;  then sudo xterm;
[05:48] <czr> DrZeus, you should check whether the patch has been incorporated into dapper first
[05:48] <petoix> shadowplay
[05:48] <_jason> fluffyashes, that will break gui admin tools
[05:48] <NigelS> blink56k: no it needs to be exact, e.g. with the brackets.....
[05:48] <Kachingo> I was just wondering, I'm a complete n00b with linux. What directory should I install program folders? I downloaded firefox 1.5, but I can't find where it should go. Cheers
[05:48] <Mabus06> _jason,  http://pastebin.ca/36554
[05:48] <czr> DrZeus, since that's the next release, then probably discuss about it on #ubuntu-dev or mailing-lists
[05:48] <NigelS> blink56k: and you don't type boot, you just press b when you're done editing
[05:49] <fluffyashes> _jason: sudo works normally i've been using it all night
[05:49] <DrZeus> czr->I found the patch, and the patch for the patch, and I would like to contribute for it(instead of doing the recompile again in the dapper release)
[05:49] <fluffyashes> _jason: what will break those tools?
[05:49] <_jason> fluffyashes, enabling the root account
[05:49] <Madpilot> Kachingo: Linux doesn't install stuff like Windows does - what format is your file in?
[05:49] <blink56k> e, root [hda0, 1] , makeactive, press b?
[05:49] <czr> DrZeus, I understand what you did. I'm saying that the more you work before hand to check that the patch isn't already in dapper and tell why it's needed, the more are the chances of it being included
[05:49] <fluffyashes> _jason: I did it after I couldn't access it in the first place, so i should turn it off?
[05:49] <shadowplay> petoix: ok do an ls.  choose a file that's a few kb in size (if you have a .wav file that's even better) and type ...
[05:49] <DrZeus> czr->I dont know that much about the kernel or that; so then its better to go to ubuntu-dev you say?
[05:49] <NigelS> blink56k: you're tryiing to be funny now :) they have to be round brackets
[05:50] <Madpilot> fluffyashes: try turning the root login off, see if that fixes things
[05:50] <czr> DrZeus, where did you find the patch and which kernel version is it against?
[05:50] <vskye> Kachingo - just install it in you're /home/username dir
[05:50] <NigelS> blink56k: and no space iirc
[05:50] <shadowplay> petoix: cat the_file > /dev/dsp
[05:50] <fluffyashes> Madpilot: i turned it on in an effort to fix things, it was off and it wasn't wokring
[05:50] <NigelS> blink56k: your best bet is to go to the grub page on the web now and have a look
[05:50] <gg> alo.... need help about identd server on ubuntu
[05:50] <shadowplay> petoix: replacing 'the_file" with teh filename you choose.
[05:50] <gg> pls............
[05:50] <blink56k> ahh I'm such a dumbarse...id leave linux on my machine happily but my school just doesnt support it on its network :(
[05:50] <gg> anybody can help me ... pls........
[05:50] <_jason> Mabus06, have you tried using a different mirror?
[05:50] <NigelS> blink56k: why do you need your school to support it?
[05:50] <fluffyashes> _jason: i can't disable the root login it won't let me open the menu to change itb ack now
[05:51] <_jason> fluffyashes, what menu?
[05:51] <Kachingo> Madpilot: it was an archive, but I extracted it, so now it's a folder. You know how windows has c:/program files where I put stuff. But I don't really know the layout of linux
[05:51] <czr> blink56k, how is it not possible to 'support linux on the network'?
[05:51] <NigelS> blink56k: linux is a far safer proposition to have on your network than a windows box which could get worms etc
[05:51] <seven> g'day people, i have installed ubuntu and love it...its like crack...now i'm trying to migrate completely from windows...the only thing i have left to configure is kismet and it has given me hell, would someone be so kind as to give me a hand with it?
[05:51] <blink56k> it lets it on the wired network but wont let it on the wireless network without the cisco vpn client
[05:51] <petoix> shadowplay what u meaN?
[05:51] <DACRepair> does anyone have any experiance getting a Ati RADION 7000 32mbddr running under breezy
[05:51] <_jason> fluffyashes, just do 'sudo passwd -l root'
[05:51] <fluffyashes> _jason: System>Administration>Login Screen Setup it won't open now...that was how i had enabled logging into the root acount
[05:51] <Mabus06> _jason, ?
[05:51] <czr> blink56k, ah. you should probably try looking for a cisco vpn compatible client then for linux
[05:51] <blink56k> it's really stupid of them because the school servers themselves run on linux
[05:52] <Madpilot> Kachingo: Linux sorts stuff according to what it does, so one app will have stuff all over the system - and you probably didn't need to extract the archive. What format was the archive in?
[05:52] <DrZeus> czr-> it has 2 methods of implementation: for kernels below 2.6.13 and for 2.6.13
[05:52] <shadowplay> petoix: we're trying to send a file directly to the sound device, to test if it's working.
[05:52] <DrZeus> czr-> this is the link: http://www.minet.uni-jena.de/~ferdy/l10.html
[05:52] <blink56k> yeah well first I'm going to try that grub thing and then I'll keep you posted
[05:52] <czr> blink56k, they're probably running cisco clients on some prupose that has nothing to do with windows vs linux
[05:52] <fluffyashes> _jason: that spits out [1] + Broken pipe sudo network-admin
[05:52] <NigelS> blink56k: cisco do a linux vpn client though yes?
[05:52] <Kachingo> madpilot: .tar.gz
[05:52] <czr> drzeus, the kernel going into dapper is .15, so you should check whether the patch has been accepted in mainline kernel first
[05:53] <Exdaix> Anyone have an idea as to why I don't get any automounting USB devices?  I have a fresh install of 5.10
[05:53] <Exdaix> dmesg displays it found the device
[05:53] <czr> DrZeus, start by reading the .14 changelog (kernel.org) and .15 kernel change log in order to see that, or grep for the changes that the patch includes
[05:53] <Exdaix> but no icon
[05:53] <seven> i have followed the steps on the ubuntu web page on how to "patch" the orinoco drivers and everything followed as planned until i got to the make and the make install
[05:53] <czr> DrZeus, the next release will use the .15 kernel anyway
[05:53] <blink56k> well be back later guys...wish me luck!
[05:53] <seven> i got errors on the make and the make install
[05:54] <shadowplay> petoix: so type  cat /usr/share/sounds/shutdown.wav | /dev/dsp
[05:54] <petoix> Ok
[05:54] <petoix> kk
[05:54] <_jason> Mabus06, change the ca.archive to us.archive and try again
[05:54] <fluffyashes> _jason: the same thing happens when i type "sudo network-admin &" as happens when i try and open the network-admin from the menu... it tells me that my password is invalid and never gives me a chance to enter it
[05:54] <shadowplay> petoix: you hear anything?  or get an error?
[05:54] <petoix> korptix@korptix:~$  cat /usr/share/sounds/shutdown.wav | /dev/dsp
[05:54] <petoix> -bash: /dev/dsp: Permission denied
[05:54] <petoix> korptix@korptix:~$
[05:54] <petoix> nope
[05:54] <DrZeus> czr-> it presumes that SHOULD work for 2.6.13 and beyond
[05:55] <_jason> fluffyashes, sorry, I'm getting confused.  Did you get an error when you ran 'sudo passwd -l root'?
[05:55] <Mabus06> _jason, just manually go through my sources.list and replace the 'ca's with 'us'?
[05:55] <DrZeus> czr-> or at least MAY work.  I think that's enough for me
[05:55] <czr> DrZeus, the patch should work, or that the laptop will work without the patch with newer kernels?
[05:55] <shadowplay> petoix: ok.  try this now:  ps ax | grep esd
[05:55] <fluffyashes> _jason: i did originally but i was su at the time so i exited su and tried it again and got the above result
[05:55] <shadowplay> petoix: tell me what it says
[05:55] <_jason> Mabus06, if you want to.  Or you can use gedit.  Or you can make a new one at http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[05:55] <jeff_> do i need to install resolvconf to use dnsmasq and ipmasq to share an internet connection from one laptop to another (laptop with connection to internet is connected to internet by wireless card and is connected to laptop2 by ethernet cards)
[05:55] <fluffyashes> _jason: if enabled the root account login breaks things, then they're broken cause i enabled it and i can't disable it cause the login screen setup won't open
[05:56] <seven> no takers on the kismet help?
[05:56] <petoix> korptix@korptix:~$ ps ax | grep esd
[05:56] <petoix>  7810 ?        SL     0:01 /usr/bin/esd -nobeeps
[05:56] <petoix>  9808 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/bin/esd -nobeeps
[05:56] <petoix>  9810 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep esd
[05:56] <Mr_aRt> alo........
[05:56] <fluffyashes> _jason: BUT it is key here that this problem occured before i enabled the root login, I did that trying to fix the problem
[05:56] <Mr_aRt> i need help about identd sever ... anyone can help me pls...................
[05:56] <Mr_aRt> i need help about identd sever ... anyone can help me pls...................
[05:56] <Madpilot> Kachingo: you probably need to run the install from source stuff on that tar.gz, then
[05:57] <_jason> fluffyashes, I'm fairly certain that you didn't enable root by checking that box.  You'd have to set a password somewhere, right?
[05:57] <shadowplay> petoix: hmm, strange you have two of them running, but ok.
[05:57] <brx> Mr_aRt: just ask your question, people might answer.
[05:57] <Kachingo> Madpilot: How would I go about doing that?
[05:57] <shadowplay> petoix: try:  sudo  cat /usr/share/sounds/shutdown.wav | /dev/dsp
[05:57] <_jason> fluffyashes, okay, let's step back.  gksudo used to work at some point?  does regular 'sudo' currently work?  (try 'sudo echo hi')
[05:57] <shadowplay> petoix: same as before with sudo in front
[05:57] <DrZeus> czr-> I did some research about that, and its a problem with the acpi of my laptop.  So I dont know(or at least dont know where to look at) how to check if that is fixed in the next release
[05:58] <fluffyashes> _jason: yes, gksudo used to work at some point, but at that point su and sudo didn't work
[05:58] <petoix> k
[05:58] <Mr_aRt> i like to install identd server to my server , i have "apt-get install identd"
[05:58] <Madpilot> !tell Kachingo about compile
[05:58] <_jason> fluffyashes, does sudo currently work?
[05:58] <Mr_aRt> than how to configure it ???
[05:58] <fluffyashes> _jason: my friend the unix elitist messed with a few things nad now su and sudo work
[05:58] <fluffyashes> _jason: but i have no idea what he did
[05:58] <czr> drzeud, read the changelogs of the new kernels (as I told you before)
[05:58] <czr> drzeus even
[05:58] <fluffyashes> _jason: sudo and su work perfectly
[05:58] <petoix> root@korptix:~#  sudo  cat /usr/share/sounds/shutdown.wav | /dev/dsp
[05:58] <petoix> -bash: /dev/dsp: Permission denied
[05:58] <petoix> root@korptix:~#
[05:59] <Madpilot> fluffyashes: I recommend killing your friend :P
[05:59] <czr> drzeus, what you should do probably is try to get the patch into kernel mainline if it's not there, but I assume that the person who did the patch would try that anyway, so I wouldn't see any point of you doing the same thing
[05:59] <Kachingo> madpilot: cheers
[05:59] <czr> DrZeus, however, if the patch is distasteful (or a hack), then it will never be accepted in kernel mainline
[05:59] <Mabus06> that didn't help, _jason, I get the same errors
[05:59] <TuxOtaku> okay...i'm a total newbie to burning Video DVDs...anyone here care to help me with a problem?
[05:59] <Madpilot> Kachingo: np - I've only installed one thing from source, though, so you'll have to ask someone else for help if/when it doesn't work...
[06:00] <czr> DrZeus, then you should ask the people who control ubuntu kernel patching process whether they want to add a hack into the kernel or not, I'd imagine not
[06:00] <fluffyashes> _jason: his solution to this problem was the command "sudo xauth -f /home/ashes/.Xauthority extract /root/.Xauthority" but i was unsure of whether i wanted to do that or not so  i came here
[06:00] <_jason> Mabus06, can you pastebin the errors along with your /etc/apt/sources.list please?
[06:00] <TuxOtaku> i have an mpeg-2 video...i need this on a video DVD
[06:00] <narles> i need help with managing my ipod on ubuntu.... can anyone help me figure out why my ipod won't eject properly?
[06:00] <shadowplay> petoix: ok, i'm not sure if the problem has to do with not having permission to the sound device, using the wrong driver, or having too many esd's running
[06:00] <shadowplay> petoix: last one's the easiest.   sudo killall esd
[06:01] <shadowplay> if anyone knows how to get sound working easily, please jump in... i'm going through the whole truoubleshooting thing here
[06:01] <fluffyashes> _jason: and now my x is doing that thing where it won't let me select any other windows but the one i'm presently in so i'm gonna have to restart x
[06:01] <DrZeus> czr-> I see.  Thnx for the advice.  I will be in contact with the ubuntu kernel team then, for asking that
[06:02] <fluffyashes> I have to restart x i will brb
[06:02] <DrZeus> czr-> because is a general-purpose patch.  It is not for ubuntu directly.  It was tested with gentoo, and checked that worked for other distros also
[06:02] <Mabus06> _jason, the errors are the same thing as before except with us instead of ca
[06:02] <shadowplay> petoix: ?
[06:03] <_jason> Mabus06, can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:03] <czr> DrZeus, a kernel patch is a kernel patch, but each distro is running somewhat different kernel, so it is a bit distro-related
[06:03] <Mabus06> _jason, http://pastebin.ca/36555
[06:03] <Miyomei> Okay, I'm having a load of problems.
[06:03] <czr> DrZeus, if you want I can try to find out whether the patch is in mainline, throw me the link again
[06:04] <Miyomei> First off, I'm running from the LiveCD right now. I moved my ubuntu HDD plus others to a new PC, and now it wont boot. It keeps looking for root in /dev/hda1.
[06:04] <petoix> lol
[06:04] <petoix> dont worry i got it
[06:04] <petoix> http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[06:04] <shadowplay> petoix: cool!
[06:05] <narles> i need help with managing my ipod on ubuntu.... can anyone help me figure out why my ipod won't eject properly?
[06:05] <Madpilot> !sound
[06:05] <ubotu> [sound]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[06:05] <shadowplay> petoix: sorry for the run-around... i was going through the different possibilities.
[06:05] <petoix> lol thanx anwayz
[06:05] <wadeb> hi all, is this a good IRC channel for ubuntu application developers?
[06:06] <narles> you need to BUY crossover softwear.. wtf..
[06:06] <fluffyashes> _jason: i just logged in as root to see if it was truely enabled and yes, it is and then i tried to access the programs that i couldn't acess as a regular user and they wouldn't even open
[06:06] <Miyomei> Along with not being able to boot into my Ubuntu install, I want to shrink the partition, but it wont even let me do it from the LiveCD.
[06:06] <blink56k> back...just a clarification...when i boot from the grub live cd, i dont get the usual choose your os splashscreen, i just get a grub prompt...when i type root (sda1,1) i get error 23 error parsing numbers...that or device string not recognized
[06:06] <vskye> Miyomei - edit you're fstab to reflect the new /dev/hd??
[06:06] <_jason> fluffyashes, I wonder if you can disable root while logged in as root lol
[06:07] <Miyomei> vskye - How would I go agout doing that? I mean, the command?
[06:07] <shadowplay> petoix: one quick thing to try is to go back to the volume control -> file ->change device;  and choose whichever one's not selected. but follow the howto first.
[06:07] <fluffyashes> _jason: i'm back with my regular user now
[06:07] <fluffyashes> _jason: now those programs won't even open
[06:07] <petoix> k
[06:07] <fluffyashes> _jason: i mean the programs which require root privledges
[06:08] <petoix> but sound still isnt working
[06:08] <petoix> do i have to reboot ?
[06:08] <seven> /orinoco/orinoco-0.15rc2/hermes.h:400: warning: passing arg 1 of `readw' makes pointer from integer without a cast
[06:08] <seven>   <-- this is where my errors start
[06:08] <_jason> fluffyashes, 'gksudo network-admin' fails without any errors?  I don't really know what else to suggest other than disabling the root account
[06:08] <sudharsh> did i miis somethin
[06:08] <vskye> Miyomei - try a emergency boot, (can't recall) and the location of you're boot hd, ala /dev/hda1 or whatever and then after boot edit /etc/fstab
[06:09] <TuxOtaku> so, yeah....how do i use k3b to burn a video DVD from an mpeg
[06:09] <fluffyashes> _jason: AHHA!! it says something now...an error... gksudo: error while loading shared libraries: libgksuui1.0.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:10] <Miyomei> Alright. Also, how do I shrink the partition size of my Linux partiton?
[06:10] <blink56k> what do i type into a grub command prompt to boot a certain partition...note, im not talking about the choose your os splashscreen, but "grub> _  "
[06:10] <vskye> Miyomei - sorry for the total lack of details, but I just converted from SuSE a month or so ago.
[06:10] <_jason> Mabus06, have you been messing with the gpg keys for the repos?
[06:10] <Miyomei> vskye - Better than I am; this is only my third day of Linux from XP. ;p
[06:10] <vskye> Miyomei - ;)
[06:10] <czr> blink56k, just type grub commands that you would have in the grub config for that partition
[06:10] <sudharsh> Miyomei whats ur problem?
[06:11] <Mabus06> _jason, yes, as the source-o-matic page said to... maybe I did it wrong?
[06:11] <czr> blink56k, the commands that are in menu.lst are exactly the ones that you can type in
[06:11] <Miyomei> Repost: "First off, I'm running from the LiveCD right now. I moved my ubuntu HDD plus others to a new PC, and now it wont boot. It keeps looking for root in /dev/hda1."
[06:11] <blink56k> where do i find menu. lst
[06:11] <Miyomei> Repost: "Along with not being able to boot into my Ubuntu install, I want to shrink the partition, but it wont even let me do it from the LiveCD."
[06:11] <sudharsh> blink56k check in /boot/grub
[06:11] <czr> blink56k, on any linux installation that boots with grub in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:11] <Miyomei> Those are the problems I'm having, but vskye helped me out a bit with the first.
[06:12] <sudharsh> k...
[06:12] <vskye> Miyomei - if you can, try putting the drives back in the same order as they were on the old computer.
[06:12] <narles> i need help with managing my ipod on ubuntu.... can anyone help me figure out why my ipod won't eject properly?
[06:12] <_jason> Mabus06, back up your current sources and make a new vanilla one with just the essential stuff, main, updates etc..  Let's see if we can work on that
[06:12] <Miyomei> vskye - The case layout is physically different, so I'm not able to.
[06:12] <blink56k> ok found it
[06:13] <blink56k> so to boot into any partition i type root (hd0,1) for example?
[06:13] <czr> blink56k, not really, root doesn't 'boot' :-)
[06:13] <_jason> fluffyashes, try reinstalling the 'libgksuui1.0-0' package
[06:13] <czr> blink56k, root sets the default partition for grub from which it will look for files
[06:13] <czr> blink56k, like kernel and such, but yes, start with root (hd0,1), then continue with kernel and initrd (if you have one)
[06:13] <Miyomei> And, it would let me alter the partition on my Linux HDD if 'extended' and 'linux-swap' weren't mounted, but I don't know how to unmount them.
[06:14] <sudharsh> Miyomei try mount....
[06:14] <czr> blink56k, then as a last command, execute boot (if grub let's you proceed to that stage, it will display errors if any of your commands are really wrong/bad ones)
[06:14] <sudharsh> it'l tell u the current state o affairs
[06:14] <fluffyashes> _jason: it says that libgksuui1.0-1 is not installable
[06:14] <sudharsh> fluffyashes do a apt-get update
[06:14] <Mabus06> _jason, my 'vanilla' sources.list : http://pastebin.ca/36556
[06:14] <vskye> Miyomei - been there, done that! So, hda1 would be the first partition on (C:) and hda2 would be the second parition, etc.
[06:15] <sudharsh> and 'a' means primary master
[06:15] <blink56k> well the thing is, im planning to reinstall windows from a 2nd partition onto the 1st and it succeeds...except when i restart the machine to boot into the new windows environment, grub rears its ugly head to say it's broken...so what what i did was create a grub CD that i can use when grub breaks after the windows reinstallation
[06:15] <Miyomei> Right. But now my Linux drive is hdb1.
[06:15] <czr> vskye, hda1 is the first partition on the ide drive that is in the primary IDE bus as master
[06:15] <_jason> Mabus06, I'm guessing that still gives you errors?  I'm gonna search since I haven't seen this before
[06:15] <Miyomei> But it's still looking in hda1 for root.
[06:15] <czr> vskye, so it really depends on how you have cabled your drives in your new host
[06:15] <Mabus06> _jason, and the errors I get : http://pastebin.ca/36557
[06:16] <sudharsh> u goota change fstab
[06:16] <blink56k> czr: kernel, initrd?
[06:16] <Miyomei> But I can't get into the system to change it.
[06:16] <czr> blink56k, yes. those normally come after a 'title' line
[06:16] <Miyomei> Unless I mount hda1, I guess, but I don't know how.
[06:16] <sudharsh> Miyomei use the live cd
[06:16] <Miyomei> I'm on it right now. ;p
[06:16] <needhelp> is there any similar msn messenger for linux?
[06:16] <sudharsh> needhelp gaim
[06:16] <sudharsh> and kopete if usin kde
[06:16] <czr> gaim is quite ok, kopete for kde
[06:17] <needhelp> can I use webcam ?
[06:17] <DACRepair> Miyomei, do this MOUNT /dev/hda1 /mnt -t
[06:17] <DACRepair> wait
[06:17] <vskye> Miyomei - So why not just as swap the ide cables?  Just to get the thing to boot and change the reference from /dev/hda1 to /dev/hdb1?
[06:17] <czr> most webcams don't support linux
[06:17] <sudharsh> in the new gaim beta
[06:17] <blink56k> ok, so what are the exact commands i would type to boot into a certain partition?
[06:17] <sudharsh> czr thers somethin called spca5xx
[06:17] <Locke> how can i save everything in a floppy as an image?
[06:17] <_jason> Mabus06, drop the ca, just make everything from ca.archive to archive.  The ca.archive times out for me too
[06:17] <needhelp> what about amsn?
[06:17] <sudharsh> drivers for the cheap china ones
[06:17] <DACRepair> Miyomei, after -t do the filesystem fat32=vfat ntfs=ntfs
[06:17] <fluffyashes> _jason: it gives me errors detailed here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6984
[06:18] <czr> sudharsh, wouldn't know, I just know that most webcams are done on a very low budget (crap hardware) and no specs released. so it would depend on the webcam
[06:18] <sudharsh> needhelp: gaim supports all protocols
[06:18] <docta_v> sudharsh: everything but skype at least
[06:18] <sudharsh> czr: yup i googled for 2 weeks and found the drivers in a blg
[06:18] <hillbilly> Is it possible to loginto gaim in invisible mode ?
[06:18] <czr> blg?
[06:18] <sudharsh> docta_v: oh yeah :)
[06:18] <sudharsh> hillbilly yes
[06:19] <hillbilly> oh how ?
[06:19] <Mabus06> _jason,  ok
[06:19] <hillbilly> everytime i login, i have to manually change my state to invisible !
[06:19] <needhelp> how come when i dod lususb my webcam is detected
[06:19] <needhelp> I wonder how..
[06:19] <needhelp> Because in all my other distro i couldnt be able to detect it
[06:19] <nemik> where does ubuntu put openssl libraries and such?
[06:20] <Mabus06> _jason, seems to work... :/
[06:20] <czr> nemik, like all other distros, /usr/lib/
[06:20] <Mabus06> What's wrong with the canadian mirror?
[06:20] <sudharsh> needhelp: what does lsusb say
[06:20] <sudharsh> vimicro...?
[06:20] <nemik> thanks czr
[06:20] <czr> nemik, that's the path for non-critical ones (not critical in booting). critical ones go under /lib. man hier for more info
[06:20] <needhelp> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 043e:8585 LG Electronics USA, Inc. LPC-UC35 Webcam
[06:20] <Locke> how can i save everything in a floppy as an image?
[06:20] <czr> locke, yes
[06:20] <_jason> fluffyashes, interesting since I can't find that package either...
[06:20] <czr> locke, cp /dev/fd0 /tmp/image.blah
[06:21] <czr> locke, restoring a floppy would be the same, but just reverse the arguments to cp
[06:21] <fluffyashes> well i have a .deb package of it
[06:21] <sudharsh> needhelp: does lg provide the webcam drivers
[06:21] <nemik> czr, synaptic says i have it but it is not there, need it for doing a wpa_supplicant make
[06:21] <czr> locke, assuming it is either 720k or 1440kB
[06:21] <needhelp> noop
[06:21] <Locke> czr: i just use dd
[06:21] <needhelp> that I know
[06:21] <sudharsh> else do a 'apt-get install camorama'
[06:21] <czr> locke, same effect, cp is shorter :-)
[06:22] <czr> nemik, hmmh. which ubuntu version?
[06:22] <fluffyashes> _jason: i have a .deb package of libgksuui from ubuntu... but when i try and install it get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6985
[06:22] <nemik> breezy 5.10, basic desktop install
[06:22] <Miyomei> DACRepair: That's not working.
[06:22] <Miyomei> I'm using 'sudo  mount dev/hda1 /mnt -t filesystem fat32=vfat ntfs=ntfs
[06:22] <Miyomei> '
[06:22] <Miyomei> I should mention that I'm trying to mount my Ubuntu partition. ;p
[06:22] <czr> nemik, dpkg -L libssl0.9.7 | grep .so
[06:23] <sudharsh> Miyomei: use the live cd and change the fstab entries
[06:23] <nemik> thanks
[06:23] <czr> nemik, that is a list of all library files that come with package libssl0.9.7 which should contain the stuff
[06:23] <_jason> fluffyashes, what does 'apt-cache policy libgksuui1.0-0' say
[06:23] <Miyomei> sudharsh: I can't get to fstab if it's on the partition that I can't mount.
[06:23] <nemik> czr, great! i'll give it a shot, i may need to apt-get the libopenssl then
[06:23] <czr> libssl0.9.7 :-)
[06:23] <nemik> ahhh ok
[06:23] <czr> synaptic should pull that for you though automatically
[06:24] <sudharsh> Miyomei: so u r etering the commands from the live cd
[06:24] <czr> if the package dependencies were coded correctly in the package that you're installing
[06:24] <Miyomei> Yes, I'm on it right now.
[06:24] <czr> and if your system isn't borken because of some other reason (playing with unstable repositories, etc)
[06:24] <fluffyashes> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6986
[06:24] <sudharsh> what other os do u hav
[06:24] <nemik> czr...yea....about that. i hope not
[06:24] <czr> nemik, good luck :-)
[06:25] <sudharsh> if u hav Winblo$...
[06:25] <Miyomei> sudharsh: I have a broken XP installation. Can't boot it.
[06:25] <nemik> zcr, thanks and thanks for the suggestions!
[06:25] <sudharsh> d/l explore2fs
[06:25] <_jason> fluffyashes, I don't know D:  try again in a few minutes, sorry
[06:25] <czr> nemik, wait a moment. did you say 'wpa_supplicant make'?
[06:25] <wckdkl0wn> how do i update my repositories?
[06:25] <sudharsh> Miyomei: gr8...:(
[06:25] <sudharsh> wckdkl0wn apt-get update
[06:25] <czr> nemik, you're building some software with make, or what are you doing exactly?
[06:25] <sudharsh> dont forget sudo
[06:25] <nemik> czr, yes, trying to do a make for it for the latest version
[06:25] <fluffyashes> _jason: gah ok thanks for trying
[06:25] <czr> nemik, ach. stupid me :-)
[06:26] <czr> nemik, libssl0.9.7 contains the binary library files only. not the ones that you need for 'development' (like when you're building software that will use the library)
[06:26] <nemik> ahhh that's what i thought
[06:26] <czr> nemik, libssl-dev is the package that includes the rest stuff
[06:26] <wckdkl0wn> ok now how do i download kde?
[06:26] <czr> so install that, then do a configure blah blah and make
[06:26] <nemik> czr, excellent, off to synaptic for that!
[06:27] <czr> nemik, or just write 'sudo apt-get install libssl-dev' on the command line
[06:27] <czr> since that's where you are running make anyway :-)
[06:27] <nemik> yea i know, that's what i meant! ;)
[06:27] <_jason> I have no sound when I play a .wmv in totem-xine (I have tried a random avi as well and the problem persists).  However, mp3's will produce sound just fine.  The movies play fine in mplayer.  This just started happening, it was working fine before.  xine-ui behaves the same way.  Any ideas?
[06:27] <czr> synaptic is just a fancy graphical front-end for apt :-)
[06:27] <nemik> oh i know
[06:27] <czr> good good
[06:27] <sudharsh> _jason installed w32codecs?
[06:27] <_jason> sudharsh, yep
[06:28] <sudharsh> check the multmiedia syatems selectors
[06:28] <brad_teenbot> can anyone tell me how to download sound on here so i can have sound?
[06:28] <_jason> sudharsh, I'm using alsa, but i've tried selecting oss and still get nothing.  Should I try something else?
[06:28] <sudharsh> try esd
[06:29] <brad_teenbot> what do i type in the terminal to get sound?
[06:29] <sudharsh> dont forgt to revert to alsa if not workin
[06:29] <_jason> sudharsh, I removed that nasty thing a long time ago :)
[06:29] <sudharsh> esd?
[06:29] <wckdkl0wn> how do i install kde?
[06:29] <brad_teenbot> what do i type in the terminal to get sound?
[06:29] <_jason> sudharsh, I'll try it just to troubleshoot if I can't figure it out.  Yeah, esd
[06:29] <regeya> apt-get install kde
[06:29] <Miyomei> On boot, can I change where Grub looks for a root folder?
[06:29] <regeya> schnikes
[06:29] <sudharsh> wckdkl0wn: sudo apt-get install kubunu-desktop
[06:29] <brad_teenbot> i totally forgot its been awhile since ive ran linux
[06:30] <wckdkl0wn> ty
[06:30] <nemik> czr, thanks so much, got it perfectly now!
[06:30] <_jason> wckdkl0wn, remember to spell 'kubuntu' correctly though
[06:30] <regeya> brad_teenbot,
[06:30] <sudharsh> _jason: i had that prob yesterday
[06:30] <brad_teenbot> yes
[06:30] <sudharsh> rebooting worked
[06:30] <brad_teenbot> what do i type in the terminal to get sound?
[06:30] <wckdkl0wn> sudharsh, E: Couldn't find package kubunu-desktop
[06:30] <sudharsh> sry...thsat was kubuntu
[06:30] <nemik> czr, my damn university wireless still won't work, but at least i know its not an old version of wpa_config!
[06:30] <brad_teenbot> regeya, what do i type in the terminal to get sound?
[06:30] <regeya> /usr/sbin/gimme_sound_okplsthx
[06:30] <needhelp> Where can I download pyxmms?
[06:31] <_jason> sudharsh, yep tried rebooting
[06:31] <sudharsh> needhelp synaptic...
[06:31] <sudharsh> chek the preferences in xine...wait i'll go with u
[06:31] <needhelp> is pyxmms as pyxmms-remote?
[06:31] <wckdkl0wn> sudharsh, nvm got it
[06:31] <borisattva> someone here recommended me a package to install that keeps track of all my non repository installs and allows them to be removed via synaptics or whatever in the futur, like add/remove in windows. does anyone know the name of that application?
[06:32] <_jason> sudharsh, wait... wtf it's working right now hold on
[06:32] <sudharsh> ok k
[06:32] <needhelp> is pyxmms as pyxmms-remote?
[06:32] <wckdkl0wn> how do i install the latest version of xchat?
[06:32] <sudharsh> pyxmms....why would u wnat that...
[06:32] <sudharsh> ..update the repos
[06:33] <sudharsh> and u r rokin
[06:33] <shadowplay> brad_teenbot:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or
[06:33] <shadowplay>                http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[06:33] <needhelp> sudharsh because a gadget from gdesklets needs this dependecy
[06:33] <blink56k> czr: good news...i successfully booted manually from the grub. prompt...if i wanted to boot from a windows partition would root (hd0,1) save deafult makeactive boot suffice?
[06:33] <needhelp> and that may be the reason why is not working
[06:33] <sudharsh> ok...try pyxmms then
[06:33] <regeya> I was bout to suggest that brad_teenbot go read some docs
[06:33] <borisattva> anyone?
[06:34] <czr> blink56k, not sure. better check the nice grub documentation on the web for that
[06:34] <needhelp> in my synaptic I only have pyxmms-remote :(
[06:34] <brad_teenbot> where do i read docs?
[06:34] <needhelp> should i install that one?
[06:34] <regeya> borisattva, you mean things installed from source?  checkinstall then.  if oyu mean .deb files then you need nothing
[06:34] <sudharsh> needhelp wait...i''ll check mine
[06:34] <shadowplay> brad_teenbot: scroll up
[06:34] <regeya> whee
[06:35] <needhelp> sure
[06:35] <regeya> the frontal lobotomy patient linux users group pays #ubuntu a visit...
[06:35] <_jason> sudharsh, hrmm ok strange, here is what I have found: double click on a file to load totem will crash totem immediately.  However running totem from the command line works fine.  Still some files that had sound before aren't playing with sound.  But not every wmv is not working.
[06:35] <sudharsh> needhelp: lol...my sources are gone..
[06:35] <wckdkl0wn> how do i install the latest version of xchat?
[06:35] <needhelp> lloool
[06:35] <borisattva> reg: no it was some particular package, that once you install keeps track of all your non repository installed apps. so that you dont need to remember them and have them all listed in one area if you ever want to look forsomething to clen aup.. just like the add/remove programs in windows. i installed it before but since then had to completely reinstall the system and now cant remember the pacakge name
[06:36] <sudharsh> does it crash xine 2
[06:36] <borisattva> someone in this chat room sugested it
[06:36] <dargaard_> i have a quick question, how do i stop X from loading at start up? the runlevels are not what i expected here.
[06:36] <needhelp> the thing is i cannot make a gadget work, and I was reading about this gadget and it uses pyxmms
[06:36] <_jason> sudharsh, yep without an error message
[06:36] <sudharsh> k then try ptxmms-remote
[06:36] <regeya> borisattva, no idea.  guess I haven't had to worry about it too much.
[06:36] <sudharsh> vow,,,
[06:37] <_jason> sudharsh, but plays fine from command line...
[06:37] <sudharsh> k now open up xine
[06:37] <_jason> sudharsh, done
[06:37] <sudharsh> u wouldnt that would u :)
[06:37] <seven> can someone help me install and configure the wlan_ng in ubuntu? (learned i don't need to use the orinoco drivers for kismet)
[06:37] <brad_teenbot> thanks guys for trying to help me but now i have to call a freind because i cannot figure it out
[06:37] <sudharsh> bring up the settings
[06:38] <seven> i dl'd wlan_ng with apt-get but after i dl it and reboot my card quits working
[06:38] <needhelp> so sudharsh what can u suggest me to do?
[06:38] <narles> i need help with managing my ipod on ubuntu.... can anyone help me figure out why my ipod won't eject properly?
[06:38] <borisattva> oh well. thanks anyway
[06:38] <shadowplay> brad_teenbot: what exactly are you trying to do?
[06:38] <sudharsh> install pyxmms and try if works
[06:38] <sudharsh> i m o a dialup so it takes time to d/l stuff
[06:38] <seven> is this chan moserated?
[06:38] <seven> moderated?
[06:38] <_jason> seven, yes
[06:39] <_jason> sudharsh, i'm in settings
[06:39] <seven> k, was wondering if anyone seen my posts
[06:39] <rvirani> what package do I need to develop on c++
[06:39] <rvirani> I installed g++ but my stuff doesnt run
[06:39] <needhelp> nicee it worked
[06:39] <needhelp> :)
[06:40] <shadowplay> rvirani: doesn't run or doesn't compile?
[06:40] <sudharsh> enable 'master of the universe thingy'
[06:40] <regeya> borisattva, as I say, with debs I don't worry a great deal, and with source package I go through the ./configure && make && checkinstall three-step.  I'd be interested to know 1.) what the app is and 2.) the advantages
[06:40] <_jason> sudharsh, yep did that
[06:40] <sudharsh> scroll to audio
[06:40] <narles> can anyone tell me  how i can unmount my ipod properly?
[06:40] <_jason> sudharsh, ok
[06:41] <sudharsh> what hav u got in audio driver
[06:41] <_jason> sudharsh, alsa
[06:41] <sudharsh> set it 2 auto
[06:42] <_jason> sudharsh, same thing
[06:42] <sudharsh> no sound still??
[06:42] <sudharsh> i think u gotta restart to make the changes
[06:42] <sudharsh> i mean xine
[06:43] <_jason> sudharsh, yeah I did.  I mean it still crashes when I try to load from nautilus
[06:43] <sudharsh> k lets do dat again :D
[06:44] <sudharsh> r u tryin to open xine or totem?
[06:44] <_jason> sudharsh, tried both
[06:44] <_jason> sudharsh, I don't even use xine, I was trying to see if I could get to the root of the problem
[06:44] <sudharsh> oh...........
[06:45] <nofear> !dvd
[06:45] <nofear> !upgrade
[06:45] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[06:45] <sudharsh> try updating 2 a newrr version helps
[06:46] <sudharsh> does totm work for other users
[06:46] <_jason> sudharsh, okay, I'll try that if I can't think of something else.  I just don't comprehend how it suddenly stops working
[06:46] <Madpilot> sudharsh: totem? totem-xine works for me, totem-gstreamer doesn't
[06:47] <sudharsh> totem-gstreemer is a dummer
[06:47] <seven> once i apt-get wlan_ng is there something in a .conf file i have to do to enable it?
[06:47] <brad_teenbot> yeah im just trying to get the sound to work on here
[06:48] <brad_teenbot> my freind said that i had to do something with the terminal and it will download or something
[06:49] <brad_teenbot> any suggestions?
[06:49] <needhelp> how can I check if my webcam works?
[06:50] <matthew_w> Hey - is ca.archive.ubuntu.com down?  Because.. I can't get anything from synaptic except 404 errors, and it happened for literally no reason.
[06:50] <Psi-Jack> Hey, I have two sound cards, and I want to configure devfs to make my SB PCI512 as /dev/dsp, and my on-board VIA to use /dev/dsp1, how would I do that?
[06:50] <_TomB> does the Breezy LiveCD have support for bluetooth on it?
[06:51] <Madpilot> matthew_w: yeah, ca.archive seems to be down for me too
[06:51] <matthew_w> Madpil; ok good, thought I f*d something. :)
[06:51] <matthew_w> Nite.
[06:51] <needhelp> how can I check if my webcam works?
[06:51] <czr> _TomB, bluez should be there, but gnome doesn't have bt support, so you'd have to rely on application support for bt
[06:52] <_TomB> I just wanted to know if the kernel modules were in it
[06:52] <Psi-Jack> Can anyone help me with that?
[06:52] <czr> psi-jack, ubuntu doesn't use devfs, second, you have to config alsa to do that (best way to reorder the cards)
[06:52] <_TomB> I'm remastering the LiveCD, and didn't know if I may have removed support by mistakes or something
[06:52] <brad_teenbot> what command do i type in the terminal for the sound to start downloading?
[06:52] <Psi-Jack> czr: I'm looking at it. It's using devfs...
[06:53] <Psi-Jack> But..
[06:53] <arrinmurr> needhelp: with camorama, vlc, gnomemeeting, kopete, motion or something
[06:53] <czr> psi-jack, which ubuntu would that be?
[06:53] <brad_teenbot> and also how do i log in on the terminal?
[06:53] <needhelp> thanx
[06:53] <Psi-Jack> czr: Kubuntu, actually. But, you suggest reordering in Alsa.. How do I do that then?
[06:53] <needhelp> Do you know how can I install a software that I download
[06:53] <czr> psi-jack, grep devfs /proc/mounts give you what?
[06:53] <needhelp> its amsn_0.95.-3.ubuntu.deb
[06:53] <Psi-Jack> czr: Hmm, nothing..
[06:53] <czr> psi-jack, you'd have to setup an asound.conf (I think, never needed to do that, I just tell each program which card to use)
[06:53] <czr> psi-jack so it's not using devfs
[06:54] <Psi-Jack> Gotcha.
[06:54] <czr> psi-jack, maybe you confuse devfs with udev
[06:54] <Psi-Jack> I just saw it.. I thought itwas used. :)
[06:54] <czr> most modern distros use udev since devfs is not supported anyway
[06:54] <czr> and kernel dropped devfs anyhow
[06:54] <Psi-Jack> czr: Where's asound.conf? Or.. Better, how to make/configure it?
[06:55] <gil-> i need help with flash in firefox, i cant see the text
[06:55] <czr> psi-jack, you'd have to check the alsa site for that I think. as I said, I've never needed it for anything
[06:55] <Psi-Jack> czr: Wow.. Why did Linux drop devfs?
[06:55] <arrinmurr> needhelp: but before you do, you should be aware that there's a big probability that when you try to access your webcam, your computer will lock up. if it happens, you should read thishttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75284
[06:55] <czr> psi-jack, because it was a wrong solution to the problem. hotplug (kernel-space) and udev (user-space) is the right solution to the problem
[06:55] <needhelp> ok
[06:55] <needhelp> so how could I install
[06:55] <czr> psi-jack, and Linus didn't like devfs ;-)
[06:56] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm.
[06:56] <shadowplay> brad_teenbot: you mean how to log into a console?
[06:56] <arrinmurr> needhelp: dpkg -i amsn_0.95.-3.ubuntu.deb
[06:56] <Psi-Jack> That's messed up. devfs was an excelent idea..
[06:56] <shadowplay> oh well
[06:56] <czr> psi-jack, idea maybe. implementation not.
[06:56] <needhelp> is dpkg the command to install?
[06:56] <czr> psi-jack, the problem was that devfs forces a naming system for your devices. udev let's you (sys admin) to configure them
[06:56] <Psi-Jack> czr: Right. The implementation was bad.
[06:56] <needhelp> its nice to learn something new
[06:56] <arrinmurr> needhelp: or more precisely: sudo dpkg -i amsn_0.95.-3.ubuntu.deb
[06:57] <czr> Psi-Jack, and udev allows you to do all kinds of other neat stuff as well (run scripts when specific devices are inserted to system, or leave the system, etc)
[06:57] <gil-> i need help with flash in firefox, i cant see the text
[06:57] <arrinmurr> needhelp: dpkg -i  is
[06:57] <shadowplay> is there a way to do a history search in irssi (search up the scroll-log)
[06:57] <czr> psi-jack, udev has it's problem as well though, but I rather not get into that now :-). devfs is dead. long live udev.
[06:57] <Psi-Jack> Hehe
[06:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> shadowplay: hit 'page up'
[06:58] <arrinmurr> needhelp: you should always try to find software in the ubuntu repositories first though
[06:58] <shadowplay> PuMpErNiCkLe: yeah, i mean to do a *search* like in less/vim/emacs ...
[06:58] <needhelp> how can I search?
[06:58] <needhelp> in the respostories?
[06:58] <needhelp> and when does synaptic gets upgraded?
[06:58] <shadowplay> needhelp: run synaptic (in the gui) or aptitude (console)
[06:58] <czr> psi-jack, if you fail to do the alsaconf, you might try to config udevd instead, but that would be a bit wrong place to do it (alsa would see the cards in different order from oss-applications)
[06:59] <needhelp> yeah the version its in synaptic its version 0.94
[06:59] <arrinmurr> needhelp: apt-cache search something
[06:59] <Psi-Jack> czr: Right. I'm looking how to do it in Alsa... But not getting much luck
[06:59] <czr> psi-jack, can I ask you why you need to reverse their order?
[06:59] <ice_1963> or apt-cache search
[06:59] <czr> psi-jack, yeah. alsa docs can be pita ;-)
[07:00] <Psi-Jack> czr: My VIA sound chipset is being made primary.. It's not the primary one I want to have. The SB PCI512 is. I'm only using the VIA one for my phone through Skype.
[07:00] <czr> psi-jack, normally that should be a problem since most programs allow you to set which sound device they should use. that's why I ask
[07:01] <czr> psi-jack, give me a sec, I'll have a quick look see if I find a nice solution for you. if none will magically appear, you have some alsa learning to do :-)
[07:01] <Psi-Jack> czr: Yes. I've tried to, for KDE, set arts to use /dev/dsp1, and it's not working for some reason.. But, I still want /dev/dsp to be the "primary".
[07:01] <czr>  /dev/dsp* is OSS interface anyway
[07:01] <Psi-Jack> czr: I appreciate it. I've been out of he loop for Linux for a couple years... Kinda .. Well, pretty rusty.
[07:01] <czr> you should really try to see whether programs allow you to use the ALSA interface
[07:01] <foxiness> hi , the synaptic clean the index every week or less can i stop this ,i hate to download it every time
[07:02] <Psi-Jack> czr: Skype only uses OSS..\
[07:02] <czr> since the OSS in ubuntu is really an ALSA emulation layer for legacy applications
[07:02] <czr> yeah, I figured that
[07:02] <Psi-Jack> Heh.
[07:02] <czr> but esd should be able to use alsa directly
[07:02] <Psi-Jack> And it really corrupts the sound. Baaaaad problems.
[07:02] <narles> anyone know where i can find gtkpod-aac.. can't find it in universal and multiversal repositories
[07:02] <czr> and most other non-braindead-software (depends on how lazy the programmers were really)
[07:02] <czr> but then again, you have VIA, what did you expect? ;-)
[07:03] <czr> VIA support in alsa is somewhat lacking since it has so many bugs (the hardware)
[07:03] <Psi-Jack> czr: Yes.. But it works reliably, this one. :)
[07:03] <czr> no it doesn't. it just seems to do ;-)
[07:03] <d33t> samba question: i recently set up samba on a machine where some areas are public, other require a login. when i try to get to the restricted areas from a windows box, the username defaults to "Guest". is there a setting on the server that will allow me to enter a login name every time?
[07:03] <Psi-Jack> czr: Works good enough for phone usage. :)
[07:04] <d33t> i have done a ton of tutorials and googeld a bit, but i couldn't fix it. don't even know if i can
[07:04] <d33t> haven't hit the forums much though....
[07:04] <czr> psi-jack, try reading this http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=.asoundrc
[07:04] <czr> it explains what are the configurable bits in alsa
[07:05] <Remmy> Hi all... my system fails to boot properly... it jibbers out at /etc/init.d/rc... I think because it is looking for /dev/initramfs/progress_state which does not exist. How would I go about fixing this problem?
[07:06] <brad_teenbot> Can ayone please help me with this im trying to get sound working because i have just downloaded linux back onto my computer, what comman (or commands) do i type in the terminal to downlaod the sound config or whatever it is
[07:06] <regeya> oh dear me.
[07:06] <czr> Psi-Jack, now that I'm thinking, editing modules.conf might be a best solution
[07:06] <Toma-> brad_teenbot: youre using ubuntu?
[07:07] <Psi-Jack> czr: Hmm?
[07:07] <czr> Psi-Jack, that way we'd tell the alsa drivers which card index to use for each driver, you have two separate kinds of sound cards, right?
[07:07] <brad_teenbot> Toma, yes
[07:07] <czr> Psi-Jack, is priv msg ok?
[07:07] <czr> (are you identified to freenode)
[07:07] <Psi-Jack> czr: Yes, and sure.
[07:07] <czr> ok, let's continue there
[07:07] <d33t> hrm, a bit late for samba help then?
[07:08] <Toma-> brad_teenbot: what sound card? why are you in a terminal? can you get xmms to make a sound at all? if not, whats it saying?
[07:08] <brad_teenbot> its not saying anything i have no sound because i guess it isnt intalled or anything
[07:08] <shad0w1e> is there really a performance decrease with ext3 versus ext2 (im talking about a very slow machine)
[07:09] <Madpilot> brad_teenbot: no system sounds at all?
[07:09] <czr> shad0w1e, define performance
[07:09] <czr> shad0w1e, ext3 adds journalling, so that's normally why people use it over ext2
[07:09] <d33t> shad0w1e: i'm no expert, but from what i've recently read, yes. ext2 doesn't keep a log, so it shoudl use less overhead
[07:09] <shad0w1e> hard drive taking longer...
[07:09] <narles> has anyone tried the command sudo dosfsck -a /dev/sda2??
[07:09] <shad0w1e> how do I check the clock speed of a box?
[07:09] <czr> shad0w1e, ext3 on the same hard ware in the same location where you have ext2 before?
[07:09] <brad_teenbot> when i click on the speaker in the upper right hand corner it sais "no volume control or elements/ or no soundcard found "
[07:10] <d33t> shad0w1e: fallback is, you can lose info if the machine dies in mid write
[07:10] <shad0w1e> then I'll at least know what I'm dealing with
[07:10] <czr> shad0w1e, cpu clock? or which clock?
[07:10] <shad0w1e> CPU
[07:10] <Madpilot> brad_teenbot: do you have a soundcard or on-board?
[07:10] <czr> shad0w1e, cat /proc/cpuinfo will give current information about all logical CPUs
[07:10] <shadowplay> brad_teenbot: double-click the speaker .. it'll open the volume control
[07:11] <czr> shad0w1e, current speed = if you use throttling/speedstep, CPU MHz will show you the speed at that moment.
[07:11] <shad0w1e> OK This is a Cyrix MII 300 (225 Mhz) with 64 RAM
[07:11] <d33t> shad0w1e: there's a way to turn off journalling on an ext3 partition, which will make it run as an ext2 partition. you can play with that if you want to test it
[07:11] <shad0w1e> scary
[07:11] <shad0w1e> heh
[07:11] <czr> shad0w1e, but cpuinfo contains other useful stuff like vendor id for processors, which normally have proper speeds hard-coded anyway
[07:11] <Psi-Jack> czr: Did you get my PMs?
[07:11] <czr> Psi-Jack, don't think so
[07:11] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, odd.
[07:11] <czr> I got only one :-)
[07:11] <foxiness> hi,is there applications to see where my space going "/usr 1 gb /Desktop 3gb etc"
[07:12] <brad_teenbot> Shadow play,  thats what i dd and it said "no voulume control elements and/or devices found"
[07:12] <Psi-Jack> czr: Did you get the Testing? :)
[07:12] <czr> yes
[07:12] <czr> replied even
[07:12] <Psi-Jack> Hmm.
[07:12] <d33t> foxiness: df
[07:12] <Psi-Jack> I'm getting.. Nothing.
[07:12] <shad0w1e> I dont think I should bother with ext3 on this old machine,...
[07:12] <shadowplay> brad_teenbot: it didn't even open?  if it *is* open try file --> change device
[07:12] <theconartist> what is a good up-to-date repo, with for example, firefox 1.5?
[07:12] <theconartist> :o
[07:12] <czr> hmm. ok, let's try again, seems I didn't register after netsplits :--)
[07:12] <d33t> foxiness: you can use 'df -h' to see it in "human" readable format
[07:13] <Psi-Jack> czr: Hehehe
[07:13] <foxiness> d33t, i want something like du but GUI one
[07:13] <d33t> foxiness: that what you wanted?
[07:13] <d33t> ah
[07:13] <shadowplay> brad_teenbot: you can also go to a terminal and look at dmesg | less
[07:13] <theconartist> anyone?
[07:13] <d33t> you using kde or gnome?
[07:13] <shadowplay> brad_teenbot: to see if it found anything like a soundcard when booting
[07:14] <foxiness> d33t, ubuntu :) gnome
[07:14] <d33t> heh, well, i have a nice app on kubuntu, but it's written for kde
[07:14] <brad_teenbot> do i just type in dmesg in the terminal?
[07:14] <shadowplay> brad_teenbot: dmesg | less
[07:14] <foxiness> d33t, man i dont like kde
[07:15] <shadowplay> brad_teenbot: space will scroll, 'q' will quit, '?' gives keystroke help
[07:15] <foxiness> d33t, i hate everthing start by K on my life
[07:15] <d33t> i'm not partial to either, i'm more of a minimalist guy, but kde works well on the desktop, gnome on the laptop......
[07:15] <d33t> you search synaptic?
[07:15] <foxiness> yes
[07:16] <foxiness> no
[07:16] <shadowplay> brad_teenbot: brb
[07:16] <foxiness> it download my index -every day job-
[07:16] <foxiness> but i do it on gnomefiles.org
[07:16] <holycow> hey guys, if i want to start a service when a server boots i just haveto symlink to it in rcS.d correct?
[07:16] <Madpilot> foxiness: for getting more file/directory size info, try Baobab
[07:17] <foxiness> and i found this http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1084
[07:17] <holycow> how come the last 2 symlinks i put in rcS.d are now in rc3.d?  if i want to delete those i remove them from rc3.d and recreate new links in rcS.d (the startup scripts are new anyway) ?
[07:17] <derekS> why do i have an entry in my /etc/init.d called bittorrent?
[07:18] <foxiness> Madpilot, ok ,thank you for late me know about it , i will try it
[07:18] <d33t> foxiness: well, i have kdirstat on my kde install, don't use anything on gnome
[07:19] <theconartist> ubotu, dapper
[07:19] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[07:19] <foxiness> d33t, me to :) , but i hope for this day when we live togther
[07:20] <shadowplay> brad_teenbot: find anything?
[07:20] <d33t> foxiness, xdiskusage may work. sounds pretty generic
[07:20] <d33t> installing now....
[07:21] <brad_teenbot> shadowplay, no not really im not having much luck lol
[07:21] <derekS> can someone who has bittorrent installed just tell me if its ok to have an /etc/init.d/bittorrent file?
[07:22] <derekS> i don't understand why its necessary
[07:22] <odat> hi vereyone
[07:22] <odat> every
[07:22] <odat> lol
[07:22] <shadowplay> brad_teenbot: are you switching from windows, and can you find out what soundcard you have in windows?
[07:22] <d33t> foxiness, it's not too bad. not sure if it's what you're looking for....
[07:22] <brad_teenbot> yes i can do that
[07:23] <brad_teenbot> ive been kinda cleaning it up because i got allitle spyware on windows but i can go see what sound care it is
[07:23] <shadowplay> brad_teenbot: that could help.  before rebooting, try typing: sudo lspci
[07:23] <d33t> ah well, one last shot on my question.....
[07:23] <shadowplay> brad_teenbot: see if something comes up that looks like a soundcard or multimedia
[07:24] <cafuego> derekS: It's for the tracker, it doesn't actually run anything by default. Just ignore it.
[07:24] <brad_teenbot> type that in the terminal?
[07:24] <d33t> anyone know how to specify a logon username when connecting to a samba server from windows?
[07:24] <shadowplay> brad_teenbot: yes
[07:24] <Locke> name a few system information desktop applets
[07:24] <shadowplay> d33t: man mount
[07:24] <d33t> ? how is mount going to help me?
[07:24] <brad_teenbot> can you pm me
[07:25] <d33t> i know how to mount samba and windows shares
[07:25] <shadowplay> d33t: sorry, i read the Q backwards
[07:25] <brad_teenbot> shadow play, can you pm me?
[07:25] <derekS> cafuego: alright
[07:25] <derekS> thakns
[07:25] <d33t> heh
[07:25] <szronik> Was there an automatic kernel update through Update Manager recently?
[07:25] <d33t> prob is, when i try to get to samba from windows, it defaults to Guest login, and i can't change it
[07:25] <d33t> is there a setting i'm missing on the samba server?
[07:25] <d33t> or is a windows limitation?
[07:25] <d33t> *it
[07:26] <shadowplay> d33t: in XP it can be a pain... try right-clicking on the server in the network neighborhood
[07:26] <shadowplay> d33t: somewhere in there is an option to 'connect as' or 'authenticate as'
[07:26] <szronik> Does the Ubuntu Update manager do kernel updates?
[07:26] <Myrtti> yes
[07:26] <shadowplay> brad_teenbot: just type in channel.  if someone sees something they know about they can jump in
[07:27] <szronik> Myrtti: Was the kernel updated recently?
[07:27] <Myrtti> last week I think
[07:27] <szronik> Well, my system has gone unstable.
[07:27] <d33t> shadowplay: so it is a windows problem, nothing i can change on the server side?
[07:27] <brad_teenbot> type in channel in the terminal?
[07:27] <scanwinder> when i start xawtv, i get an error saying "Error: Aborting: no fontset found" does anyone know how to fix this?
[07:28] <shadowplay> brad_teenbot: no, whatever you wanted to pm... type it in the channel
[07:28] <szronik> Myrtti: I've got my desktop icons disappearing, sometimes when I try to open up an application such as Calc or Terminal it won't show up and the desktop freezes and I'm forced to either restart X or reboot.
[07:28] <Xnos> someone can help me with this trouble... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=100204&highlight=vcd
[07:29] <shadowplay> d33t: i'm not sure.  What I do know is that once XP connects once to a server, specially if it's mapped to a drive, it won't ask for a username password by default.  it'll just fail to mount.
[07:29] <szronik> Myrtti: I didn't have the problem before, but I noticed it after I updated AND rebooted my system.
[07:29] <Myrtti> szronik: :-(
[07:29] <odat> szronik, go get a live cd something like damn small linux and do a fsck on your hard drive
[07:29] <Myrtti> can't helpo you with that
[07:29] <Myrtti> sorry
[07:29] <d33t> shadowplay: hrm. well, now xp seems to not want to connect to anything or even see the workgroup. windows is so lame!
[07:29] <szronik> odat: Can't I just do an fsck in Ubuntu?
[07:29] <Toma-> Xnos: dont want a dvd?
[07:29] <d33t> shadowplay: it's just as well, i shoudl sleep soon
[07:29] <d33t> shadowplay: thanks
[07:30] <shadowplay> d33t: if you try to connect with a brand new xp user-profile though, and right-click instead of double-clicking, it should give an option to change username
[07:30] <Xnos> a vcd
[07:30] <d33t> shadowplay: ok, i'll check it out once i can see the server again
[07:30] <shadowplay> d33t: worst come to worst, mount it from cygwin :-p
[07:30] <odat> szronik, its actually easier if you have alive cd because the hard drive your scanning can not be mounted
[07:30] <Psi-Jack> czr: Well, so far it SOUNDS like your genius plan worked. :)
[07:30] <Xnos> but i think that my vcdimager creates invalid cues
[07:30] <odat> szronik, damn small linux is only 50 megs
[07:30] <czr> psi-jack, good. hw-autodetect plays nice with us. great :-)
[07:30] <d33t> shadowplay: heh, sygwin woudl work in theory, but i want it to be seemless; that and i've never gotten cygwin to work right..... it's quicker to fdisk and install linux :)
[07:30] <czr> psi-jack, it wasn't that genious plan though :-)
[07:31] <Toma-> Xnos: can you paste one of your cues onto pastebin?
[07:31] <czr> psi-jack, been using that since old school debians ages ago
[07:31] <Psi-Jack> czr: Yep. Ordering is correct.
[07:31] <szronik> odat: But I think the kernel update has something to do with this.
[07:31] <czr> psi-jack, good. so now you don't have to muck with alsa confdi
[07:31] <czr> config even
[07:31] <d33t> shadowplay: i'll give the right click a shot though, thanks again
[07:31] <szronik> odat Is there any way I can go back to the old kernel?
[07:31] <czr> szronik, you using nvidia?
[07:31] <szronik> czr: ATI
[07:31] <shadowplay> d33t: yeah i was kidding.  I did a fresh install of cygmwin about 6 ms ago and it was prefict
[07:31] <Xnos> pastebin? it a page?
[07:31] <czr> szronik, ATI binary drivers?
[07:31] <Toma-> !pastebin
[07:31] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:31] <Psi-Jack> czr: Yes.. But now, I just need to figure out how to get artsd to only use the emu10k1, instead of possibly both.
[07:31] <shadowplay> d33t: perfect.
[07:31] <odat> szronik, sure but i would try reinstalling the current kernel through synaptic
[07:32] <Xnos> ah ok .. wait
[07:32] <czr> psi-jack, man artsd somehow. it's an arts issue I guess :-)
[07:32] <Toma-> ok
[07:32] <d33t> shadowplay: off to sleep, take care
[07:32] <foxiness> d33t, thank you for let me know about it , it nice one and simple
[07:32] <Psi-Jack> Well, I'm not /totally/ sure arts is actually using both.
[07:32] <szronik> czr: Hold on, I can't think straight - I just woke up .
[07:32] <Psi-Jack> but there is no manpage on artsd
[07:32] <theconartist> my menu is broken :/
[07:32] <czr> psi-jack, google is your friend (and mine)
[07:32] <szronik> czr: I think they are binary drivers that I downloaded off of somewhere - GATOS
[07:33] <ubuntu_> hi folks... first time ubuntu user... hello world!
[07:33] <shadowplay> obutu is so polite. :-)
[07:33] <czr> szronik, the symptoms sound like x-server problems. and since you're using a binary driver changing the running kernel would affect that.
[07:33] <odat> gnome rocks!
[07:33] <Xnos> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6987 here is
[07:33] <czr> szronik, so either try to get a newer version of the graphics gw drivers to match your kernel or downgrade the kernel
[07:34] <szronik> czr: Yeah, I believe you're right - they are x-server problems for sure.
[07:34] <czr> szronik, or use non-binary drivers (non-closed source ones that is)
[07:34] <szronik> czr: How can I revert back to the old kernel?
[07:34] <Toma-> Xnos: looks ok here...
[07:34] <odat> szronik, why are you certain that its a kernel problem?
[07:34] <Toma-> Xnos: you are keeping the cue+bin in the same directory right?
[07:35] <czr> szronik, I wouldn't know :-) someone might (trough synaptic? I don't use synaptic anyway)
[07:35] <Xnos> yes
[07:35] <szronik> odat: because that was the only major update I did, and since then I've been getting problems
[07:35] <foxiness> ubuntu_, willcome and hope to see you here for week or so :)
[07:35] <shadowplay> szronik: if you have the old kernel still installed in /boot
[07:35] <szronik> odat: I open up Terminal in X and it just freezes sitting there and then kills itself
[07:35] <Xnos> i try to burn with nero,nautilus,gnomebaker... and it fails
[07:35] <szronik> shadowplay: Rename it?
[07:35] <Toma-> Xnos: can you put the error up on pastebin again? the one that errors when burning?
[07:35] <shadowplay> szronik: you just need to tell grub to use it.
[07:36] <szronik> Oh GRUB.
[07:36] <Toma-> Xnos: or did u make that post?
[07:36] <szronik> Whatever happened to LILO?
[07:36] <szronik> :)
[07:36] <Toma-> grub = sxc
[07:36] <beford> grub > lilo
[07:36] <shadowplay> szronik: same thing... edit lilo.conf , then rerun lilo
[07:36] <Myrtti> lilo is bull
[07:36] <szronik> shadowplay: I'm running GRUB :)
[07:36] <szronik> shadowplay: But I never ran GRUB before.
[07:37] <Xnos> ok wait
[07:37] <sses> hi
[07:37] <shadowplay> szronik: much easier.  edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:37] <szronik> shadowplay: Okay, will do.
[07:38] <sses> does anyone know how to reconfigure sources.list repsitories from the dpkg utility?  Is it something like "dpkg-reconfig" ?
[07:38] <shadowplay> szronik: then reboot.  that's it.  If things go wrong, grub gives you a quasi shell to edit it's own config, *with tab completion* at boot time
[07:38] <sses> I can't it in the debian sarge howto
[07:38] <Toma-> sses: "man dpkg"
[07:38] <sses> k
[07:39] <shadowplay> szronik: goes without saying that you read the manpage b4 doing any of that though
[07:39] <szronik> shadowplay: So the last kernel update was 2.6.12-10?
[07:39] <Toma-> szronik: yep.
[07:40] <cvt|kde> how do i extract a .rar file?
[07:40] <Toma-> unless u want vanilla bleeding edge
[07:40] <shadowplay> szronik: on ubuntu, as of a few weeks ago, yes
[07:40] <shaoh> hey
[07:40] <shaoh> im new in ubuntu 5.10
[07:40] <odat> cvt|kde, did you try archive manager and or file roller
[07:40] <shaoh> how to you put on a root password?
[07:40] <cvt|kde> odat, archive manager so far
[07:40] <szronik> shadowplay: I see the old kernel listed in menu.lst
[07:40] <shadowplay> cvt|kde: there's an unrar utility
[07:40] <szronik> shadowplay: So I suppose that it's possible to boot to the old one.
[07:40] <shadowplay> cvt|kde: apt-cache search unrar
[07:40] <odat> cvt|kde, familiar with synatpic?
[07:41] <Toma-> sses: 'sudo dselect' could work
[07:41] <shadowplay> szronik: make sure that the time-out isnt 0
[07:41] <cvt|kde> odat, yes
[07:41] <odat> shaoh, there is only sudo
[07:41] <szronik> shadowplay: Okay, thanks.
[07:41] <Xnos> here is the error in gnomebaker
[07:41] <Xnos> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6988
[07:41] <odat> cvt|kde, do a search for unrar and pick the non free one
[07:41] <sses> thanks
[07:41] <odat> then archive manager will work
[07:41] <beford> shaoh, the root password is your own password, if you want a root shell just type "sudo -s -H" and use your password when it asks it.
[07:41] <szronik> shadowplay: Thanks a lot for your help, time for a reboot.
[07:42] <shaoh> okay. thanks
[07:42] <scanwinder> when i start xawtv, i get an error saying "Error: Aborting: no fontset found" does anyone know how to fix this?
[07:42] <sses> I think the command is dpkg-reconfigure XXXX
[07:42] <Mabus06> what's the easiest way to get an .iso from a cd-rom and then later burn it onto a disc?
[07:43] <Toma-> sses: that'll reconfigure a package thats already installed... not mess with sources.list
[07:43] <Psi-Jack> czr: What would alsa's "device" be for the one on index0?
[07:43] <odat> scanwinder, yea used tvtime lol
[07:43] <odat> used=use
[07:43] <sses> ha found it
[07:43] <scanwinder> odat: can u record with tvtime?
[07:43] <czr> psi-jack, you mean device node?
[07:43] <narles> does anyone know why i can't edit the information of m4a files on amarok.. ??this is frustrating me
[07:43] <Psi-Jack> czr: Yes
[07:43] <czr> psi-jack, card 0 is emu10k1 for you now
[07:44] <sses> dpkg-reconfigure apt
[07:44] <Psi-Jack> Right.
[07:44] <odat> scanwinder, don't think so
[07:44] <scanwinder> odat: ive always used xawtv but, since i installed breezy, it wont work
[07:44] <czr> psi-jack, accedding alsa devices is done trough alsalib, hw:0.0 maybe
[07:44] <Psi-Jack> czr: Trying to configure arts to use just the emu10k1. And /dev/dsp is incorrect. :)
[07:44] <czr> yes, because /dev/dsp* is OSS-stuff
[07:44] <Toma-> Xnos: looks like a driver error... can you burn other things?
[07:44] <sses> http://lists.debian.org/deity/2003/01/msg00270.html
[07:44] <shadowplay> Mabus06: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=myfile.iso
[07:45] <shadowplay> Mabus06: then use one of the gui utilities to burn the iso to the new cd
[07:45] <Psi-Jack> czr: So, is there a /dev for it?
[07:45] <sses> there's a repositoty that is out so my interest in reconfiguring sources.list
[07:45] <Mabus06> shad0w1e, are there no guis for ripping isos?
[07:45] <odat> scanwinder, i never messed with xawtv there seemed to be to many components
[07:45] <Xnos> yes , i can burn music... but music not at the top speed... because the cd dont burn  the last 2 or 3 songs
[07:45] <Toma-> sses: might be easier to simple open it witha text editor
[07:45] <Mabus06> shadowplay, i mean
[07:46] <Xnos> instead i burn music at 4x
[07:46] <narles> does anyone know why i can't edit the information of m4a files on amarok.. ??this is frustrating me
[07:46] <shadowplay> Mabus06: whoah.... grrr. totally misread your q.
[07:46] <czr> psi-jack, not that I know of that programs should access directly
[07:46] <Xnos> but other dates burn normally
[07:46] <Toma-> Xnos: weird....
[07:46] <rick_> hello everyone
[07:46] <sses> nope 'cause the utility will prompt to valid repositories
[07:46] <shadowplay> shadowplay: yes there are. don't know the name offhand.
[07:46] <czr> psi-jack, alsa devices are accessed by names that are defined in asound.rc (alsa lib config) or if there is none, then using default names
[07:46] <Mabus06> shadowplay, oh?
[07:46] <lars> how to yous web cam for lnux
[07:46] <czr> psi-jack, you might want to read the alsa docs ;-)
[07:46] <rick_> i have a simple question, is there a program in ubuntu that will allow me to view all the wireless networks in the area?
[07:47] <wckdkl0wn> can someone tell me how to install the latest version of xchat??
[07:47] <Xnos> other data burn fine
[07:47] <czr> psi-jack, normally applications using alsa for sound will use the API defined in alsalib (a programming library for alsa)
[07:47] <scanwinder> rick_: iwscan
[07:47] <Toma-> wckdkl0wn: you can get it from the seveas backports
[07:47] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm
[07:47] <wckdkl0wn> how do i do that?
[07:47] <czr> psi-jack, the library would then use the device nodes, which are under /proc/asound/*, but applications should not touch them directly
[07:47] <beford> wckdkl0wn, apt-get install xchat ?
[07:47] <Toma-> !seveas
[07:47] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:47] <rick_> ah, ty scanwinder, is that included with ubuntu or will i need to dl it?
[07:47] <wckdkl0wn> tryed that but it says i have the latest  but 2.4.1 isnt the latest
[07:47] <scanwinder> rick_: i dont know, i use it in debian tho, so it should work in ubuntu
[07:47] <shadowplay> Mabus06: once you have it installed, just inserting the audio cd should start the app
[07:48] <Toma-> wckdkl0wn: im using 2.6.0 from seveas here
[07:48] <rick_> ty very much:)
[07:48] <Mabus06> shadowplay, have what installed?
[07:48] <wckdkl0wn> Toma-, ok how do i get it??
[07:48] <B_166-ER-X> Problem here : I try to play with starcraft with Wine (installed on another Hd under XP, hda1) but when i enter the command to execute the game '.exe'    i have a message saying that it cannot detect my cd-rom in the drive..ect..ect.. but it IS in there...and i can even look at its content, so ubuntu can see it, PLEASE if someone could help..
[07:48] <Toma-> Xnos: im unfamiliar with vcdimager sorry :(
[07:48] <shad0w1e> How do I view memory allocation (used/free/swap) from the console?
[07:49] <Toma-> ubotu: tell wckdkl0wn about seveas
[07:49] <scanwinder> rick_: oops i meant "iwlist scan"
[07:49] <shadowplay> Mabus06: i sec
[07:49] <Xnos> no problem man... i will try to uninstall or install another version
[07:49] <Toma-> Xnos: yeh, try different apps aswell
[07:49] <Psi-Jack> czr: Okay: hw:0.0 didn't seem to work, but it did seem that artsd didn't reject it as if it were a file (file not found). So, how can I get the names alsa uses? :)
[07:49] <czr> psi-jack, let me do a quick check then :-)
[07:50] <Toma-> Xnos: if you want to use a dvd instead, Qdvdauthor is my weapon of choice :)
[07:50] <B_166-ER-X> someone ??
[07:50] <Toma-> B_166-ER-X: you need to setup your cdrom path in wine config file
[07:51] <B_166-ER-X> uh
[07:51] <tonyisntcreative> can ANYONE help me get the back and forward buttons on my mouse working?
[07:51] <Xnos> that programs is like anydvd ?
[07:51] <Toma-> anydvd?
[07:51] <_jason> ubotu, tell tonyisntcreative about mouse5
[07:51] <Toma-> B_166-ER-X: what version of wine do you have?
[07:51] <B_166-ER-X> Toma- any idea how to to this ? --help has only --version in it..
[07:51] <_jason> why do ppl delete sueful things...
[07:51] <shadowplay> Mabus06: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CDRipping?highlight=%28CategoryDocumentation%29
[07:52] <wckdkl0wn> ok that didnt help me any
[07:52] <B_166-ER-X> Tom- eh, the one from the repos.. wait i'll check
[07:52] <odat> Xnos, i find mplayer works great for dvd's
[07:52] <_jason> tonyisntcreative, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[07:52] <B_166-ER-X> Wine 0.9.5 toma-
[07:52] <czr> Psi-Jack, try hw:0,0
[07:52] <Toma-> odat: he wants to make a dvd, not watch one
[07:52] <Mabus06> nah you were right the first time, shadowplay
[07:52] <czr> the second device would be hw:1,0
[07:52] <Toma-> or optimally a vcd
[07:53] <Psi-Jack> czr: Looks like , was the difference. :)
[07:53] <czr> and the ,X is a subdevice for devices which support hardware mixing (like emu10k1 does)
[07:53] <czr> so you can have xmms using hw:0,0 and arts using hw:0,1 at the same time and hw would mix the audio
[07:53] <odat> Toma-, ahh ok sorry lol
[07:53] <Mabus06> I'm trying to basically take a scratched cd and burn a new copy of it.
[07:53] <czr> there's also a dmix plugin that would allow software mixing for hw that doesn't allow hardware mixing
[07:53] <odat> Toma-, mencoder?
[07:54] <Psi-Jack> czr: : PERFECT. Now only the front two speakers give regular audio from the system. :D
[07:54] <Toma-> B_166-ER-X: ok, "cd ~/.wine/dosdevices/ && ls -l" what does that say is looking at /med/cdrom0 ???
[07:54] <Psi-Jack> Now, to make sure it didn't screw up the surround. :)
[07:54] <shadowplay> Mabus06: an audio cd though right?
[07:54] <czr> and it's possible to define (using asound.conf/rc) so that if you have two plugs for line-outs (for 5.1), the plugs will be used as two 'separate' stereo out 'cards'. quite nifty
[07:54] <Toma-> DONT paste it all in here.
[07:54] <Mabus06> shadowplay, no
[07:54] <rick_> iwscan appears to be no longer around
[07:54] <czr> Psi-Jack, alsalib config is way flexible (one might say 'complicated as hell') ;-)
[07:54] <rick_> the student who converted it took down his site
[07:54] <shadowplay> Moder: ohhh. yeah, dd will do it.  No need to 'rip'.  That's for audio
[07:55] <Psi-Jack> czr: Yeah. I don't need all that. I just want the front two to be used as "standard" audio. The back two for surround in movies and such, and the secondary audio "card" for phone. :)
[07:55] <czr> Psi-Jack, I never really learned it properly ;-)
[07:55] <czr> Psi-Jack, but it works for you already?
[07:55] <theconartist> does doing dist-upgrade to dapper usually give problems?
[07:55] <Psi-Jack> czr: Sure does so far, so good.
[07:55] <czr> Psi-Jack, I wouldn't know how the surrounds stuff works though
[07:55] <Mabus06> shadowplay, brb
[07:55] <Hobbsee> theconartist: it could, it might be fine - depends on the day
[07:55] <Psi-Jack> czr: It works better than PowerDVD in Windows, actually. Surround seperation in ALSA is practically perfect.
[07:55] <B_166-ER-X> toma- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6989
[07:55] <Toma-> theconartist: its still in development. i wouldnt wreck yoursystem till youre going to try wrecking it up to a stable system
[07:56] <czr> Psi-Jack, you tried it already?
[07:56] <reZo> Ok, I have the modem driver download, how where do I put it? What location on the drive?
[07:56] <Psi-Jack> czr: I'm about to try it with the change in artsd configuration.
[07:56] <Toma-> B_166-ER-X: ok, you dont have a CDrom setup.
[07:56] <B_166-ER-X> arr
[07:56] <Psi-Jack> But otherwise, yes, I have played a surround-sound DVD, and it played beautifully with surround.
[07:56] <Toma-> B_166-ER-X: never fear, its easy
[07:56] <czr> Psi-Jack, ok. sounds good, yell if you need me & have fun
[07:57] <reZo> Is there a certian folder which modem drivers in Ubuntu go into?
[07:57] <czr> I want to use sb at some point for two independent stereo outs (for cheapola audio mixing stuff)
[07:57] <Toma-> B_166-ER-X: "ln -s /medira/cdrom0 ~/.wine/dosdevices/d:"
[07:57] <czr> or rather, have the other output for monitoring (head-phones)
[07:58] <Toma-> B_166-ER-X: also for correct spelling, "ln -s /media/cdrom0 ~/.wine/dosdevices/d:"
[07:58] <rick_> anyone know where to get iwscan?
[07:58] <Toma-> rick_: doesnt exist in ubuntu repos
[07:58] <shadowplay> Psi-Jack: what sound card do you use?
[07:58] <Psi-Jack> czr: Oh yeah. Surround still works. Perfectly. :)
[07:58] <rick_> yea i know
[07:58] <czr> psi-jack, cool
[07:58] <rick_> i guess its the only way to find wireless networks in ur area?
[07:58] <czr> psi-jack, now prepare to feel to force of the dark, err, alsa side :-)
[07:59] <Psi-Jack> shadowplay: A SoundBlaster PCI 512 for the primary, and the on-board VIA 82cxx for the secondary.
[07:59] <B_166-ER-X> toma- ok thx, i added E: too, but i guess i rushed a bit and did the /medira line once :\
[07:59] <reZo> Laters, /dev/null/ thats where right?
[07:59] <czr> damn shame that most programmers still want to use the old crapola OSS APIs
[07:59] <reZo> Anyways, I'm out.
[07:59] <reZo> Be back on Linux :)
[07:59] <Toma-> B_166-ER-X: well rm the link
[07:59] <brx> rick_: iwlist?
[07:59] <rick_> thanks brx il look for it
[08:00] <brx> rick_: it should be installed already
[08:00] <Toma-> rick_: airsnort
[08:00] <rick_> oh ok
[08:00] <rick_> il try to find it
[08:01] <rick_> im a noob so im not sure where to look for that stuff if its not in the applications menu
[08:01] <czr> Psi-Jack, if you'd like to give a proper name for the cards, add this into your ~/.asound.rc :
[08:01] <nelposto> .. is it just me or are the standard ubuntu repositories painfully slow atm?
[08:01] <czr> Psi-Jack, pcm.foobar { type hw \n card 0 \n device 0 }
[08:01] <Toma-> ahhh nevermind. airsnort is something else i was thinking of
[08:01] <brx> rick_: oh it is a cli app
[08:01] <czr> Psi-Jack, then you could use foobar to mean hw:0,0
[08:01] <brx> rick_: (command line interface)
[08:01] <Psi-Jack> czr: Ooooh.. :)
[08:01] <bamm`laptop> !info cli
[08:01] <rick_> oh i see, do you know how to use it
[08:01] <B_166-ER-X> Toma- ehh, ok , but uh, still not working :| same message
[08:01] <czr> Psi-Jack, ~/.asound.rc is read by alsalib whenever a program wants to use alsa, so it will magically work
[08:01] <Psi-Jack> czr: Or /etc/asound.conf, right?
[08:02] <czr> Psi-Jack, probably yes.
[08:02] <brx> rick_: Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[08:02] <Psi-Jack> That's what I read before. :)
[08:02] <czr> that would be the system wide place to put the stuff
[08:02] <theconartist> where is the gnome menu file located?
[08:02] <Toma-> B_166-ER-X: have you installed "winetools" ?
[08:02] <rick_> ok im there
[08:02] <B_166-ER-X> hm. nop
[08:02] <brx> rick_: then type "man iwlist"
[08:02] <B_166-ER-X> retrying something..
[08:03] <Toma-> B_166-ER-X: it'll save us both alot of time + effort ;)
[08:03] <brx> rick_: :)
[08:03] <B_166-ER-X> toma- ok
[08:03] <odat> Toma-, do not use winetools   f--ks it up
[08:03] <czr> Psi-Jack, alsa on ubuntu is using the default file for alsalib (/usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf) which starts by reading /etc/asound.conf and then ~/asoundrc (heh, not asound.rc it seems ;-)
[08:03] <Psi-Jack> czr: Where could I find the device nodes for my emu10k1? ;)  I suddenly feel the urge to "label" all front/rear/etc channels.
[08:03] <czr> err, .asoundrc
[08:03] <rick_> hmm ok, i got a menu up that says iwlist interface scanning, frequency, and rate
[08:03] <czr> let me see Psi-Jack
[08:04] <nelposto> anyone else finding the ubuntu repositories really slow?
[08:04] <cge> nelposto, yes
[08:04] <scanwinder> rick_: i meant "iwlist"
[08:04] <brx> rick_: man is just a program which lets you browse through your system's manual pages. documentation written for programs etc
[08:04] <Toma-> odat: set my links up pretty well
[08:05] <rick_> oh
[08:05] <rick_> i see
[08:05] <nelposto> cge ah.. it's not just me then.. is there a reason for it? normally I can max my connection out on it
[08:05] <rick_> so this is the manual for iwlist
[08:05] <rick_> got ya
[08:05] <cge> After having installed dapper flight 3, no daemons can seem to bind to ports - I get "bind: cannot assign requested address". Does anyone else have this problem?
[08:05] <brx> rick_: man iwlist shows you the manual page for iwlist
[08:05] <brx> yes :)
[08:05] <rick_> thank you very much, so very helpful
[08:05] <czr> hmmh. Psi-Jack, I'm not exactly sure how alsa goes in translating the device ids (subdevices under cards) into channel devices: /proc/asound/cardX/
[08:05] <cge> nelposto, No, I usually get around 500 kB/s, and am getting only 23 kB/s right now.
[08:05] <nelposto> sigh
[08:05] <czr> Psi-Jack, c is for 'capture' (recording) and p for 'playback' (output)
[08:05] <scanwinder> rick_: if u want it to list the accesspoints its "iwlist accesspoints"
[08:05] <Psi-Jack> I see. :)
[08:06] <czr> Psi-Jack, what you should do for labelling is add another entry in your ~/.asoundrc
[08:06] <rick_> awesome, ty
[08:06] <odat> Toma-, they told me in room winehq  not to use winetools
[08:06] <nelposto> oh well... wait it out. If only i'd decided to download the linux-tree FIRST before I went to lunch
[08:06] <czr> the foobar was for the first two channels which would probably map to front stereo output plug
[08:06] <whitynz> Hmm mounting a fat32 partition with write access is proving to be a wanker
[08:06] <shadowplay> rick_: documentation is usually in 3 places on your system: man <something>; info <someting>; or in /usr/share/doc/<something>
[08:06] <Toma-> odat: oic
[08:06] <czr> for second plug, I'd try this: pcm.baz { type hw \n card 0 \n device 1 }
[08:06] <rick_> awesome, that helps a ton
[08:06] <_jason> whitynz, just pass the umask=0222 option '-o umask=0222'
[08:07] <czr> that would correspond to hw:0,1 which would be the second output subdevice which _should_ correspond to read-stereo out
[08:07] <whitynz> ok
[08:07] <_jason> whitynz, my bad that's wrong.... umask=0000
[08:07] <czr> Psi-Jack, I also could be totally wrong of course :-)
[08:07] <whitynz> nothing else?
[08:07] <brx> rick_: at some point it becomes rather selfdocumentary, which is nice :)
[08:07] <czr> Psi-Jack, as I said, I'm no alsa guru by a long shot
[08:07] <Psi-Jack> Heh.
[08:07] <brx> rick_: check "man man"
[08:07] <Psi-Jack> Yeah, so far, naming isn't working.
[08:07] <shadowplay> rick_: info <something> covers the first two cases (both man, and info)
[08:07] <czr> did you put it into ~/.asoundrc?
[08:07] <Psi-Jack> Then again..
[08:08] <Psi-Jack> Now hw:0,0 isn't working. :/
[08:08] <rick_> i will be happy to get to that point..and i see that i will need to because when i type iwlist accesspoints i get 'interface doesnt have a list of ap's
[08:08] <czr> and \n means a newline
[08:08] <rick_> lol
[08:08] <czr> Psi-Jack, so the lib is at least reading the file, might be something wrong with my syntax then
[08:08] <shadowplay> rick_: or info man or man info :-p
[08:09] <rick_> kewl
[08:09] <sses> I was wrong "# apt-setup" wil reconfigure sources.list
[08:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> or info info
[08:09] <czr> Psi-Jack, http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/asoundrc.php#naming
[08:09] <rick_> tons of ways it seems
[08:09] <brx> shadowplay: hjow about info info
[08:09] <Psi-Jack> czr: Yeah, cause removing .asoundrc got hw:0,0 back to working. hehe
[08:09] <sses> or sudo instead of # for reg ubuntu setups
[08:09] <brx> rick_: do you have a wireless card and does ubuntu recognize it?
[08:09] <czr> Psi-Jack, now you have a handly mechanism to disable alsa then ;-)
[08:10] <Psi-Jack> LOL
[08:10] <shadowplay> brx: well according to the gnu folks, they're all redundant. emacs. is the answer. lol
[08:10] <rick_> brx: yes, it recognizes it fine, im using it right now, just when i type iwlist ap i get interface doesnt have a list of peers/aps
[08:10] <Psi-Jack> czr: Either that, or that \n was supposed to be a literal line break. LOL
[08:11] <czr> it was supposed to be a literal line break, tried to tell you that :-)
[08:11] <czr> was too lazy to use pastebin you see ;-)
[08:11] <brx> shadowplay: I tend to agree :)
[08:11] <brx> rick_: ah
[08:11] <brx> rick_: iwlist scan
[08:11] <Psi-Jack> czr: Yeah. I missed it. :)
[08:11] <brx> (or long: scanning)
[08:11] <czr> Psi-Jack, check the link I gave you, and bookmark it
[08:11] <rick_> brx: yea i have done that a couple times, pretty much just gives me info about what im connected to now
[08:12] <Psi-Jack> Already have.
[08:12] <brx> rick_: then maybe no other aps are in range ;)
[08:12] <czr> it seems to be a best explanation so far that I ran across
[08:12] <rick_> brx: well usually when i do a scan in windows it finds a couple more..but..thats windows..so who knows
[08:13] <rick_> brx: its amazing how my wireless works instantly and twice as fast in linux over windows xp
[08:13] <rick_> actually no its not amazing] 
[08:13] <czr> Psi-Jack, in newer kernels the alsa stuff should be moving under /sys via sysfs. but I don't know whether that has happened so I'm still using /proc/asound
[08:13] <czr> alsa stuff = kernel interface to ALSA, in this case
[08:13] <Psi-Jack> czr: Ahh. Hey, proc is there, and it's working. :)
[08:13] <czr> yeah, it might just go away at some point
[08:13] <czr> not proc, but /proc/asound
[08:14] <Psi-Jack> Right. hehe
[08:14] <rick_> i will give iwlist another try when im at school where i know there is another network
[08:15] <brx> rick_: that also depends on the hardware you are using. if there are no readily available kernel modules for your card then it takes a bit longer due to some hoop jumping
[08:15] <rick_> brx: the scanning takes longer u mean?
[08:15] <brx> rick_: no.
[08:15] <Mabus06> what is a good gui for creating an iso from a cd
[08:15] <Psi-Jack> Well, my frontchannel name worked. heh
[08:15] <brx> rick_: I was referring to your last statement in my direction
[08:16] <rick_> brx: i was saying windows was a lot slower and more unreliable than linux
[08:16] <Psi-Jack> rearchannel and otherchannel, on hw:0,2 and hw:0,3 didn't work for some reason.
[08:16] <brx> aaaaah
[08:16] <rick_> brx: wireless wise for me
[08:16] <brx> sorry, my bad.
[08:16] <czr> Psi-Jack, 0,0 is front, 0,1 might be back
[08:16] <cdubya> !ndiswrapper
[08:16] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is probably a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[08:16] <Psi-Jack> Maybe.. I'll try that.
[08:16] <czr> although I'm not exactly sure how the channel mapping goes, so I migh be wrong
[08:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mabus06: right click on the cd, select 'copy cd'
[08:16] <brx> rick_: see ubuto for what I was referring to ;)
[08:17] <czr> you might need to do more specific configuration too, not sure at all
[08:17] <czr> Psi-Jack, but if you pay me 100 USD/hour + taxes, I'm willing to learn and tell you ;-)
[08:17] <Psi-Jack> LOL
[08:17] <Mabus06> PuMpErNiCkLe, for when you only have one drive, though..
[08:17] <rick_> brX: i think u were misunderstanding me, i wasnt having any problbems with linunx and wireless, just commenting on how it was better than windows for me
[08:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mabus06: same thing
[08:17] <czr> the 100 is the lower rate I normally use :-)
[08:17] <brx> cdubya: is there an index with all those bot commands lying around?
[08:17] <Psi-Jack> czr: Yeah, 1 didn't do it either. It's not important. I got pcm.frontchannel working. The other two just aren't taking.
[08:17] <Mabus06> PuMpErNiCkLe, no... doesn't work
[08:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> o_O
[08:17] <brx> rick_: 08:16 <brx> sorry, my bad.
[08:18] <cdubya> brx, not sure, I just kinda keep my eyes peeled and then guess on some.....:)
[08:18] <czr> yeah, maybe you should ask someone on #alsa
[08:18] <cdubya> brx, most are ones I've seen used here before.....
[08:18] <rick_> brx: ty very much for ur assistance
[08:18] <Psi-Jack> czr: *blinks* You know...
[08:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mabus06: When the menu appears, there's a drop-down box that says "write disk to..."
[08:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mabus06: Click on that, and select "file".
[08:18] <brx> rick_: it's the only reason I am here. :)
[08:18] <czr> Psi-Jack, hum?
[08:18] <Mabus06> PuMpErNiCkLe, nope... says no media in selected drive before I get a chance to select anything
[08:19] <Psi-Jack> czr: I never thought about #alsa. :p
[08:19] <brx> !tell brx about ndiswrapper
[08:19] <czr> Psi-Jack, neither did I up till now :--)
[08:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mabus06: Do you have the media in a recognized drive? ;)
[08:19] <czr> Psi-Jack, otoh, the ordering thing was ubuntu-specific the way we did it (debian-specific to be precise)
[08:19] <tonyisntcreative> can someone help me get the back and forward buttons on my mouse to work?  i can't seem to get them to be recognized or something
[08:19] <Psi-Jack> czr: Yeah. I know.
[08:20] <czr> Psi-Jack, but I'm sure that by using .asoundrc you could have given names for different cards, but the ordering would still be wrong on the OSS-side for /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp1/2
[08:21] <Mabus06> PuMpErNiCkLe, the to-be-isoed cd is in the drive
[08:21] <czr> maybe someone should write a book about using and programming for modern audio stuff on linux
[08:21] <Psi-Jack> I'm trying out my skype phone now. :)
[08:21] <czr> covering alsa configuration, dmix, jack, and audio over usb/firewire as well as SCO over bluetooth
[08:21] <Mabus06> PuMpErNiCkLe, uh, now it works for some reason, on like the fourth try... :/
[08:21] <rob1> SCO?
[08:22] <sses> night
[08:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mabus06: cool :)
[08:22] <czr> yeah, link type used in sycnrhonous links in bluetooth
[08:22] <czr> not SCO as in the evil SCO
[08:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mabus06: So long as it keeps on working - unlike mine, which failed because of a bad PSU that crashed the entire computer - it's all good. :)
[08:23] <Mabus06> PuMpErNiCkLe, it's a scratched-to-hell windows xp cd that I'm trying to get on a new,  unscratched cd
[08:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mabus06: Good luck, then ^^
[08:23] <cdubya> "not SCO as in the evil SCO"......:)
[08:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cafuego: :o
[08:24] <Psi-Jack> Woohoo! Skype works uninterupted now, because of audio locking. :D
[08:24] <gerald-volt> can I copy files from my windows partition to my reiser fs?
[08:24] <cafuego> Psi-Jack: start it using the dsp_hijack wrapper
[08:24] <gerald-volt> seems to be working
[08:25] <gerald-volt> but kinda slow
[08:25] <cafuego> gerald-volt: only when running Linux.
[08:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> gerald-volt: Yeah.
[08:25] <Psi-Jack> Damnit. I spoke too soon.
[08:25] <Psi-Jack> cafuego: The what?
[08:25] <gerald-volt> but you can't write to it right?
[08:25] <cat> hi
[08:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> gerald-volt: ubuntu has read-only ability for ntfs (ie, windows) partitions.
[08:25] <czr> Psi-Jack, might be problem in via
[08:25] <gerald-volt> which partitions allow you to write ?
[08:25] <cafuego> Psi-Jack: Did you install skype via Seveas packages?
[08:26] <nelposto> are there mirrors of the ubuntu repositories?
[08:26] <czr> Psi-Jack, oss apps lock the device to themselves anyway when they use it
[08:26] <gerald-volt> well actually
[08:26] <Psi-Jack> cafuego: Negative.
[08:26] <gerald-volt> how do I chmod a directory?
[08:26] <cafuego> Psi-Jack: Well, why don't you do that instead.
[08:26] <czr> Psi-Jack, or problem using artds at the sae time?
[08:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> gerald-volt: A lot... ntfs is complicated, though.  Ext3, fat16/32, ReiserFS, HFS, ...
[08:26] <Psi-Jack> cafuego: Hehe.
[08:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> gerald-volt: chmod -R
[08:26] <cafuego> Psi-Jack: ity comes with a wrapper that hijacks /dev/dsp and organises sound for you.
[08:26] <Psi-Jack> czr: It's apparently a problem with Skype itself.
[08:26] <Psi-Jack> cafuego: Hmmm....
[08:26] <czr> how suprising ;-)
[08:27] <czr> yet another closed source binary program which has glitches. with open source I kind of understand that, but not with closed one :-)
[08:27] <Psi-Jack> Ah good.
[08:27] <Psi-Jack> Seveas's deb is WORKING tonight.
[08:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> czr: Bad programming is universal. ;)
[08:27] <rixth> I accidenally formatted some very important files, what can I use to revoer them?
[08:27] <cafuego> Psi-Jack: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[08:27] <cdubya> anyone know why I would get a bunch of PS garbage out when I setup a PS-capable printer with the PPD file from the manufacturer?
[08:27] <rixth> recover, rather
[08:27] <czr> PuMpErNiCkLe, fortunately not complete universal, but yes, I tend to agree
[08:27] <czr> completely even
[08:28] <cafuego> Psi-Jack: Specifically, get skype-dsp-hijacker
[08:28] <cafuego> as well as skype itself.
[08:28] <Psi-Jack> cafuego: Hehe. Alright. Thanks.
[08:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> czr: Well, not *quite*, I guess.
[08:28] <cafuego> and start skype using skyp_dsp_hijacker
[08:28] <cafuego> Works dandy here (though having a mic would help ... :-)
[08:28] <czr> writing good software requires a good software development process. can't get those with the same cost as cheap ones
[08:28] <Psi-Jack> cafuego: LOL. I use Skype for my phone. :)
[08:29] <Psi-Jack> cafuego: It's my VoIP IN/OUT service. So it's kinda ... Neccessary.
[08:29] <gerald-volt> ls
[08:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> gerald-volt: lol
[08:30] <dell500> anyone know how to get dual instances of totem?
[08:30] <Psi-Jack> ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/local/lib/libskype_dsp_hijacker.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[08:30] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm
[08:31] <cafuego> Psi-Jack: edit the script and set the prefix to /usr instead of /usr/local
[08:31] <cafuego> Psi-Jack: then /msg seveas and tell him to fix his shit ;-)
[08:32] <Psi-Jack> cafuego: Heh, yep. :)
[08:33] <cafuego> Psi-Jack: Oh, and make sure snd-pcm-oss is loaded.
[08:33] <Psi-Jack> cafuego: Oh, it is.
[08:33] <Psi-Jack> So far the dsp hijacker is working PERFECTLY. :D
[08:33] <cafuego> Psi-Jack: That's the idea ;-)
[08:34] <Beleys> Poy
[08:34] <cdubya> noone has messed with setting up a printer that ubuntu didn't have a driver for already?
[08:34] <Psi-Jack> cafuego: It's a pitty that I can't setup Skype to use a different device for Calls, and Rings..
[08:34] <Psi-Jack> They disabled the one for Rings.
[08:34] <mattsm> how do i make sure a module gets loaded with ubuntu starts?
[08:35] <Slaj_R> Urgent Question.  I have an external hard drive, and Ubuntu tells me I don't have the permissions necessary to view the contents.  When I type $sudo cd /media/usbdisk, I get "cd: command not found."  This only started happening just now.
[08:36] <Slaj_R> It started after I performed a backup using Simple Backup.
[08:36] <cafuego> Psi-Jack: The newer version (I think) can do that. Not sure if there's a Linux one, though.
[08:36] <gerald-volt> anyone know what that site that has all the dependencies for cvscedega
[08:36] <cafuego> !cvscedega
[08:36] <ubotu> cafuego: Are you smoking crack?
[08:36] <cafuego> ubotu: yes
[08:36] <czr> Slaj_R, cd is not a command
[08:36] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, cafuego?
[08:37] <advers> hey guys
[08:37] <Psi-Jack> cafuego: Heh, yeah.. I noticed.
[08:37] <czr> Slaj_R, do this: sudo su -
[08:37] <advers> can someone help me
[08:37] <advers> how do i install a program specifically bitchX
[08:37] <czr> Slaj_R, then do the cd, the shell will be using root privileges to be careful
[08:37] <advers> i extracted the files to desktop
[08:37] <advers> i do not know the terminal command to install
[08:37] <Psi-Jack> Okay.
[08:37] <Psi-Jack> Now for ONE FINAL problem to fix.
[08:37] <bamm`laptop> advers
[08:37] <proj> advers: sudo apt-get install ${program}
[08:37] <cafuego> advers: 'sudo apt-get install irssi-text; alias bitchx=irssi'
[08:37] <bamm`laptop> you could sudo apt-get install bitchx
[08:37] <Psi-Jack> How the heck to I get it so when I'm using Skype, I don't hear myself echoing back into my headset?
[08:37] <czr> psi-jack, final fix? that's easy: sudo poweroff :-)
[08:38] <ftg2> what packages are required for X development?
[08:38] <mar_urs> hi
[08:38] <Slaj_R> czr:  Okay, after sudo su - I try "#chmod -r 777 usbdisk" and get "cannot access 777: no such file or directory"
[08:38] <PuMpErNiCkLe> chmod -R
[08:38] <NickZA> what languages/pages can I use on a linux webserver ? html and php ?
[08:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> it's case-sensitive
[08:39] <czr> Slaj_R, because you don't know how to use chmod :-)
[08:39] <bamm`laptop> Whatever languages you install :] 
[08:39] <cafuego> NickZA: html, xml, php, perl, python, C, whatever.
[08:39] <NickZA> asp ?
[08:39] <Slaj_R> czr:  Oops.  Thanks.
[08:39] <bamm`laptop> Not asp
[08:39] <czr> Slaj_R, also what you're doing is wrong wrong wrong
[08:39] <cafuego> Slaj_R: is the USB disk a fat32 one?
[08:39] <czr> f*k, the host booted again by itself
[08:40] <proj> cafuego: how long has nfts been experiemental?
[08:40] <Slaj_R> Except now, I get "chmod: cannot access 'usbdisk/.<hidden directories>': Input/Output error"
[08:40] <Slaj_R> No, it's ext2.
[08:40] <cafuego> Slaj_R: is the USB disk a fat32 one?
[08:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> czr: Demolish an old/spare box right near the smp-box... intimidation works
[08:40] <cafuego> proj: Since 1998 I think (Win2K)
[08:40] <NickZA> im wondering if its worth changing to a hosted linux server, ive only developed in asp/html
[08:40] <Psi-Jack> Does anyone know how to mute the mic feedback I'm getting when trying to talk on SKype? I can hear myself because it's not muting the mi.
[08:40] <cafuego> Spec: Ok.
[08:40] <Psi-Jack> mic
[08:40] <Slaj_R> Like I said, I never had this problem in the past.
[08:40] <cafuego> Psi-Jack: Run the mixer.
[08:40] <Slaj_R> Only after I backed up to the external hd.
[08:41] <Psi-Jack> cafuego: Yes.. I've done that...
[08:41] <cafuego> Psi-Jack: Fiddle the levels until you stop getting feedback.
[08:41] <gerald-volt> how do i view the printing status
[08:41] <gerald-volt> and how do i kill individual ones
[08:41] <NickZA> setting up and running a webserver on wiki I presume ?
[08:41] <proj> cafuego: I guess MS really made their file system cryptic. That or no one wants to dignify MS by being able to read their FS.. ;)
[08:42] <cafuego> NickZA: 's up to you. PHP isn't particularly hard. What have you been uisng? VB.Net or VBscript?
[08:42] <Psi-Jack> cafuego:  Apparently, Skype is taking over the mixer, and is adjusting the Capture volume, but doesn't mute the sound the mix makes, locally.
[08:42] <PuMpErNiCkLe> proj: It's cryptic.
[08:42] <NickZA> cafuego, vbscript
[08:42] <Slaj_R> Then I check the backup files by opening Simple Backup Restore, and it says no backup files are found, even though I see them in Nautilus.
[08:42] <cafuego> proj: Oh you can read it just fine, just writing is the problem.
[08:42] <cafuego> NickZA: You'll find php refreshingly powerful then :-)
[08:43] <cYriL_> hello
[08:43] <NickZA> cafuego, ok so php is powerful then ? I need to run a sql solution too
[08:43] <bamm`laptop> mysql or postresql
[08:43] <Psi-Jack> PHP is very powerful.
[08:44] <proj> NickZA: php is good but Ruby is better.. ;)
[08:44] <cafuego> NickZA: php can talk to all manner of sql systems. Pick mysql or postgresql prolly.
[08:44] <NickZA> proj, I need a newbie friendly one
[08:44] <proj> NickZA: * nods * there is definitely less resources..
[08:44] <proj> for Ruby
[08:45] <bamm`laptop> proj must be insane
[08:45] <paulproteus|lapt> Psi-Jack: PHP also sucks tremendously.
[08:45] <NickZA> ok ill look into php and mysql then, let me try and get the webserver up first
[08:45] <cafuego> NickZA: Well, for ruby there's a thing called 'rails' which may help development quite a lot.
[08:45] <paulproteus|lapt> Oh, we're comparing to VBScript?
[08:45] <paulproteus|lapt> Geez.
[08:45] <paulproteus|lapt> Yeah, PHP is better than that trash.
[08:45] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm.
[08:45] <Psi-Jack> Dangit.
[08:46] <paulproteus|lapt> That doesn't PHP is any good.... (-;
[08:46] <cafuego> NickZA: Personally, I use php/mysql. Highly portable, works fine.
[08:46] <Psi-Jack> No matter what I do, I can;t get  the mic feedback to stop.
[08:46] <cafuego> Psi-Jack: Unplug it ;-)
[08:46] <NickZA> hehe ok one of those endless discussion let me start with those two and see how it goes
[08:46] <cafuego> !start a language war
[08:46] <ubotu> bahasa is far more elegant than C#
[08:46] <ajmitch> all lies
[08:46] <ajmitch> C# is far nicer ;)
[08:46] <cafuego> ajmitch: pisang
[08:47] <ftg2> what packages are requried for X development? trying to complete a kde build; kdebase fails at xmkmf during the config process..tells me to make sure all the X development packages are installed.
[08:47] <Slaj_R> Okay, I ran a new backup just to see what would happen.  Now SB Restore finds the files but the permissions are changed again.  I don't want to waste all available space on the drive though.  Should I perhaps backup to a special directory on the drive to avoid the problem?
[08:47] <paulproteus|lapt> ftg2: apt-get install x-dev ...
[08:48] <ajmitch> proj: we'll stop now :)
[08:48] <ftg2> paulproteus|lapt: already installed :\
[08:48] <paulproteus|lapt> ftg2: apt-get build-dep kdebase
[08:49] <midwinter> !wine
[08:50] <monodrama> test
[08:50] <ftg2> bummer. build-dependencies can't be satisfied. using dapper btw and i'm not sure the kde-dev packages are working; using konstruct
[08:51] <gerald-volt> how do i mount my flashdrive?
[08:54] <Mestapheles> hi
[08:54] <Mestapheles> are there security updates put to dapper?
[08:56] <nbound> anyone know a site which mirrors winehq's repository, i wanna download the .deb outside of synaptic so i can get it to run on x64
[08:56] <ajmitch> Mestapheles: dapper constantly gets updates, but not in the dapper-security repository yet
[08:56] <ajmitch> Mestapheles: security fixes go in as part of normal development
[08:57] <ashyg> hey guys i need some help with my uli ethernet device
[08:58] <ftg2> paulproteus|lapt: i suppose i will have to compile a copy of Xorg as well.. can't find any Xorg related packages ending in -dev that will satisfy this dependency :(
[08:58] <Mestapheles> oh
[08:58] <ashyg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83710&highlight=ULi+M5261
[08:58] <ashyg> that's the error i'm getting - i get tx errors with the asrock-939dual motherboard
[08:58] <khermans> how do I compile a static binary with all libs inclusive?
[08:58] <ashyg> i tried to recompile the kernel
[08:59] <ashyg> but it wants gcc-3.4 and i only have 4.0
[08:59] <paulproteus|lapt> ashyg: then apt-get install gcc-3.4
[08:59] <paulproteus|lapt> (-:
[08:59] <ashyg> paulproteus i don't think you understand...
[08:59] <Mestapheles> ajmitch: so I can run dapper without security concerns as far as an ordinary desktop goes.
[08:59] <ashyg> i can't go online
[08:59] <ashyg> because my ethernet doesn't work
[08:59] <ashyg> i need to recompile the kernel to get the ethernet working
[09:00] <paulproteus|lapt> ashyg: Hmm.  Can you try downloading a Dapper kernel package?
[09:00] <Mestapheles> kool
[09:00] <paulproteus|lapt> Maybe it'll just have what you need.
[09:00] <Psi-Jack> Hrmmm.
[09:00] <ajmitch> Mestapheles: yes, though you may run into other problems during development
[09:00] <ashyg> dapper has it patched in
[09:00] <ashyg> how do i install it though, paulproteus
[09:00] <Psi-Jack> The mic feedback problem only happends on the emu10k1. When I dsp_hijack it to the via, it works /perfectly/.
[09:00] <paulproteus|lapt> ashyg: go to packages.ubuntu.com, find the packages you want, and move them by "sneakernet" to the other machine.
[09:01] <ashyg> actually the other computer can dual boot to windows so i'll get it in there and save it to the linux drive
[09:01] <Toma-> khermans: this might help http://www.trilithium.com/johan/2005/06/static-libstdc/
[09:02] <ScreaminIke> hey. i really need some help
[09:02] <ScreaminIke> i have an ntfs partition...
[09:02] <ScreaminIke> and...
[09:02] <Mestapheles> ajmitch: does haveing security part of the dev process slow down the rate at which security concerns are addressed or applied?
[09:02] <Toma-> !enter
[09:02] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[09:02] <Psi-Jack> Is there a Firefox 1.5 package available?
[09:02] <nbound> anyone know a site which mirrors winehq's repository, i wanna download the .deb outside of synaptic so i can get it to run on x64
[09:02] <ScreaminIke> is there any way to make it ext2 and merge it (same disk) with my ext2 partition?
[09:02] <ajmitch> Mestapheles: generally not
[09:03] <ScreaminIke> or just reformat it?
[09:03] <ScreaminIke> and mount it?
[09:03] <omer> Hello
[09:03] <omer> How can I check which KDE I have?
[09:03] <paulproteus|lapt> ashyg: Even better. (-:
[09:03] <Mestapheles> ajmitch: thanks
[09:04] <ScreaminIke> hello?
[09:04] <ftg2> omer: try .. dpkg -l kde* .. for a list of packages / version numbers.
[09:04] <ashyg> ScreaminIke: i don't think you can change the type of an already formatted partition
[09:04] <ScreaminIke> how do i reformat it?
[09:04] <ashyg> fdisk
[09:05] <ScreaminIke> can you give me a line-by-line walkthrough?
[09:05] <ScreaminIke> i don't want to mess it up...
[09:05] <ScreaminIke> fdisk (like chmod) i have learned is NOT a toy
[09:05] <robertbb> haha
[09:05] <robertbb> ScreaminIke, what do you need to do?
[09:05] <ashyg> hey paulproteus do i want the kernel-image file?
[09:05] <nbound> anyone know a site which mirrors winehq's repository, i wanna download the .deb outside of synaptic so i can get it to run on x64.... anyone?
[09:06] <ashyg> also which version should i download for an amd64 processor?
[09:06] <NickZA> I have installed apache2 do I need to install anything for PHP |
[09:06] <garry> I doubt that wine is stable on x64.
[09:06] <ashyg> 386, 586tsc, 686, 686-smp, k6, or k7
[09:07] <nbound> garry, u can force it to compile to x86 on x64
[09:07] <omer> I have kde 3.4.3. I try the update by adding the source to the sourclist and update the key, but nothing update. What can I do?
[09:07] <ScreaminIke> i need to make hdb1 ext2
[09:07] <darkkyokusanagi> how to make a compilation with my kernel is linux-k7
[09:07] <ScreaminIke> :)
[09:07] <proj> NickZA: I'm guessing is probably a php module in apt
[09:07] <ScreaminIke> it is currently ntfs
[09:07] <proj> but I can't remember
[09:07] <garry> Hmmm, nix that, I just realized, I, basically forgot, 32 bit stuff runs on 64 bit cpus so I don't know what I'm talkng about. Doh.
[09:07] <ScreaminIke> which is annoying to say the least
[09:08] <ashyg> which kernel image do i want for an amd64?386, 586tsc, 686, 686-smp, k6, or k7
[09:08] <NickZA> ok thanks ill see if its there
[09:08] <garry> nbound yeah, I just wasn't thinkin.
[09:08] <darkkyokusanagi> i have more errors when i compile a package
[09:08] <darkkyokusanagi> :-/
[09:08] <paulproteus|lapt> ashyg: I'd go with 686 if I were you.
[09:08] <ScreaminIke> robertbb: you there?
[09:08] <nbound> why shouldnt he go k7?
[09:08] <robertbb> ScreaminIke, Yes
[09:09] <paulproteus|lapt> nbound: I don't recall how similar architecturally the AMD64 CPU is to the original Athlon.
[09:09] <darkkyokusanagi> i have athlon xp
[09:09] <robertbb> ScreaminIke, But I will be gone soon, so hurry up and ask your question.
[09:09] <ScreaminIke> robertbb: k. :)
[09:09] <ScreaminIke> robertbb: i have hdb1 as ntfs i need it to be ext2
[09:09] <ashyg> so 686 even though it says for ppro/celeron/pii/piii/p4 smp?
[09:09] <nbound> paulproteus, id imagine theyd have more in common than AMD64 to a P1
[09:09] <robertbb> sudo fdisk /dev/hdb
[09:09] <ScreaminIke> (/dev/hdb1)
[09:09] <paulproteus|lapt> nbound: 686 == Pentium Pro/II.
[09:09] <g3wn> anyone install ubuntu on a acer travelmate 4000?
[09:09] <paulproteus|lapt> ashyg: It doesn't matter much.  686 will do you fine.
[09:10] <nbound> paulproteus, lol, yeah just realised i put wrong number
[09:10] <gerald-volt> how do i mount a flashdrive?
[09:10] <ScreaminIke> gotcha
[09:10] <ScreaminIke> now?
[09:10] <robertbb> Then within fdisk, hit 'p' and paste what it prints (perhaps in a pm). I will help you in channel though, so others will see.
[09:10] <ftg2> omer: you added the source to sources.list, did an apt-get update, then tried apt-get install kde ? because I imagine that would do it, provided the source is correct.
[09:10] <nbound> gerald-volt, plug it in
[09:10] <gerald-volt> and/
[09:10] <gerald-volt> i want to know what device it is in /dev
[09:10] <ScreaminIke> Disk /dev/hdb: 60.0 GB, 60022480896 bytes
[09:10] <ScreaminIke> 16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 116301 cylinders
[09:10] <ScreaminIke> Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes
[09:10] <ScreaminIke>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[09:10] <ScreaminIke> /dev/hdb1               1      104670    52753648+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[09:10] <ScreaminIke> /dev/hdb2          104671      105654      495905    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[09:10] <nbound> should do it itself
[09:10] <ScreaminIke> /dev/hdb3   *      105655      116301     5366088   83  Linux
[09:10] <ScreaminIke> /dev/hdb5          104671      105654      495904+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[09:10] <garry> mine just appear on the desktop gerald-volt
[09:10] <nbound> as do mine
[09:11] <omer> I try trugh synaptic now. what it mean 5:44? It's the new version?
[09:11] <nbound> anyone know where i can get a wine deb outside of synaptic...
[09:11] <ashyg> so running the 686 one won't break anything? alright
[09:11] <robertbb> You want to change hdb1 to Linux?
[09:11] <ScreaminIke> yea
[09:11] <nbound> ashyg, nope...
[09:11] <nbound> ashyg, why dont u run the amd64 version of ubuntu ;)
[09:11] <robertbb> ScreaminIke, Is the bootloader in the MBR, do you need a second-level bootloader in the superblock of the NTFS partition?
[09:11] <ashyg> nbound: i do
[09:11] <ashyg> nbound: but i need the dapper kernel
[09:12] <robertbb> (If you don't know, the answer is probably "no")
[09:12] <nbound> ohhh
[09:12] <ScreaminIke> the bootloader (grub) is ON hdb3
[09:12] <ScreaminIke> but it's written on the mbr of hda
[09:12] <nbound> and there isnt one for amd64 yet???
[09:12] <ftg2> omer: 3.5.0 is the new version
[09:12] <ashyg> i didn't see one at packages.ubuntu.com
[09:12] <robertbb> OK, too easy. So, in fdisk, type "T"
[09:13] <ScreaminIke> Command (m for help): t
[09:13] <ScreaminIke> Partition number (1-5):
[09:13] <robertbb> Then '1', for partition 1..
[09:13] <ScreaminIke> Partition number (1-5): 1
[09:13] <ScreaminIke> Hex code (type L to list codes):
[09:13] <ashyg> okay paulproteus|lapt how do i install the new kernel image?
[09:13] <omer> But waht is it 5:44> And now I tried apt-get install kde and it install now 241 new packages.
[09:13] <robertbb> Then, ID 7
[09:13] <ScreaminIke> wait
[09:13] <ScreaminIke> id 7
[09:13] <robertbb> Sorry.. 83
[09:13] <paulproteus|lapt> ashyg: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[09:13] <ScreaminIke> so i type?
[09:13] <robertbb> ID 7 is NTFS..
[09:14] <robertbb> You type 83, and hit enter.
[09:14] <robertbb> then hit 'p
[09:14] <robertbb> And it should have changed..
[09:14] <ScreaminIke> so...
[09:14] <ScreaminIke> w
[09:14] <ScreaminIke> ?
[09:14] <robertbb> Wait a second, show me what it prints..
[09:14] <ScreaminIke> Disk /dev/hdb: 60.0 GB, 60022480896 bytes
[09:14] <ScreaminIke> 16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 116301 cylinders
[09:14] <ScreaminIke> Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes
[09:14] <ScreaminIke>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[09:14] <ScreaminIke> /dev/hdb1               1      104670    52753648+  83  Linux
[09:14] <ScreaminIke> /dev/hdb2          104671      105654      495905    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[09:14] <ScreaminIke> /dev/hdb3   *      105655      116301     5366088   83  Linux
[09:14] <ScreaminIke> /dev/hdb5          104671      105654      495904+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[09:14] <robertbb> OK, should be OK then. Be aware you will lose data on the disk. If you are happy.. 'w' it.
[09:15] <ScreaminIke> yea
[09:15] <robertbb> Then, mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1
[09:15] <omer> I now notice it 4:3.4.3 again. I abort it.
[09:15] <ScreaminIke> The partition table has been altered!
[09:15] <ScreaminIke> Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table.
[09:15] <ScreaminIke> WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 16: Device or resource busy.
[09:15] <ScreaminIke> The kernel still uses the old table.
[09:15] <ScreaminIke> The new table will be used at the next reboot.
[09:15] <robertbb> (as root, or using sudo)
[09:15] <ScreaminIke> Syncing disks.
[09:15] <ScreaminIke> how do i make the kernel use the new root?
[09:15] <robertbb> Reboot.
[09:15] <ashyg> that's something i noticed, i can't su root in the terminal
[09:15] <ScreaminIke> *nod*
[09:15] <robertbb> Make sure you update /etc/fstab
[09:15] <robertbb> btw.
[09:16] <ScreaminIke> how do i update THAT?
[09:16] <ashyg> sudo vi /etc/fstab
[09:16] <robertbb> With a text editor :-)
[09:16] <ashyg> ;)
[09:16] <ScreaminIke> and can i mount it to "/home/<usr>/<folder>"?
[09:16] <robertbb> Yeah, use vi. But if you don't know vi, use that pico clone.. umm...
[09:16] <robertbb> nano.. that's it.
[09:16] <Myrtti> nano
[09:17] <brx> ashyg: in order to su to root in the terminal root should have a password :)
[09:17] <robertbb> :-)
[09:17] <robertbb> ScreaminIke, You can use whatever you like :-)
[09:17] <ajmitch> ScreaminIke: really, *don't* paste huge blocks of text in here
[09:17] <ashyg> brx shouldn't it go like $ su root Password: *****?
[09:17] <robertbb> Yeah, paste the big stuff to me in pm as I asked :-)
[09:17] <ashyg> like when you sudo?
[09:17] <sammcneill> hi all - installed breezy badger and have an issue with screen resolution
[09:17] <brx> ashyg: sudo passwd root
[09:17] <sammcneill> worked ok on my 17" flat screen at work
[09:17] <ftg2> omer: out of curiosity, what line did you add to your sources.list?
[09:17] <NickZA> where is the root folder for apache ?
[09:17] <sammcneill> but now brought home to 17" and it defaults to 640x 480
[09:17] <sammcneill> any ideas?
[09:18] <robertbb> NivkZA: At a guess, /var/www/
[09:18] <NickZA> thanks
[09:18] <ScreaminIke> sorry about the large blocks of text...
[09:18] <ScreaminIke> so...
[09:18] <robertbb> Somewhere below there.
[09:18] <ScreaminIke> this should all be good?
[09:18] <ScreaminIke> just... reboot?
[09:18] <pepsi> how can i get xscreensaver to start from the command line? like the lock screen applet...
[09:18] <robertbb> ScreaminIke, Have you edited /etc/fstab?
[09:18] <robertbb> OK then, ask a question and leave.
[09:19] <robertbb> :-)
[09:19] <omer> It deb-src, it OK?
[09:19] <garry> Ye need to find out how to enter your horiz and vertical refresh rates into /etc/xorg.conf and how to specifiy the resolution.
[09:19] <Mestapheles> night all
[09:19] <cdubya> !java
[09:19] <robertbb> I'm going for dinner. Hopefully ScreaminIke can make it from here.
[09:19] <sammcneill> yeah well interestingly I only want to use it via VNC
[09:19] <robertbb> bbl
[09:19] <sammcneill> and have a headless connnection garry
[09:20] <sammcneill> but have to log in first with a monitor
[09:20] <sammcneill> and as soon as I do that it defaults the resolution to rubbish
[09:20] <ashyg> paulproteus the kernel image i downloaded isn't a .dpkg
[09:20] <ashyg> it's a tarball i extracted it and it has a whole directory structure in it
[09:20] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:21] <brx> ashyg: ubuntu never asked to supply a root password during setup, correct?
[09:21] <ashyg> brx it did
[09:21] <ftg2> omer: according to http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5668, you should be doing a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' rather than 'apt-get upgrade'
[09:21] <ashyg> so how can i install this kernel image?
[09:21] <paulproteus|lapt> ashyg: ...
[09:21] <NickZA> I am unable to create a folder under /var/www I am the only/default user setup on this machine
[09:21] <brx> .. it didn't for me, ashyg. my memory is rather clear about it since I switched from debian 6 hours ago
[09:21] <omer> OK, I try this.
[09:21] <topyli> ashyg: it doesn't sound like a kernel image at all
[09:21] <paulproteus|lapt> Download a .deb file from packages.ubuntu.com.
[09:22] <ashyg> i downloaded kernel-image-2.4.27-i386-2.4.27.tar.gz
[09:22] <tkroo> hi everyone, i'm happy about ubuntu :) my first experience with it today.
[09:22] <g3wn> I hope to have a happy experience also
[09:22] <paulproteus|lapt> ashyg: Download a .deb instead.
[09:22] <g3wn> gonna install it tonight
[09:22] <omer> Yeah, thats work, thanks a lot, ftg2.
[09:23] <tkroo> cool, it was easy. i installed it on my mac G4 no problems at all
[09:23] <garry> sammcneill Not sure what ye meend by headless connection. Sounds like you are saying, you have a monitor connected through some other means than via the video card?
[09:23] <NickZA> anyone know why I dont have write permissions on /var/www ?
[09:23] <topyli> ashyg: sounds like source for a debian kernel
[09:23] <sammcneill> no I have one connected at the moment garry
[09:23] <tkroo> well i ran it from the live cd actually.
[09:23] <sammcneill> but eventually I dont want to have a monitor plugged in at all
[09:23] <sammcneill> simply VNC to it using my Mac
[09:24] <g3wn> tkroo: nice.. I have a laptop so thats why I'm hoping.... debian didn't like it with the netinst.
[09:24] <sammcneill> so I simply want to get the resolution set correctly the first time (1280x1024) and then access it remoetly
[09:24] <garry> sammcneill Hmm, sound like its over my head.
[09:24] <brx> ashyg: you can check in /etc/shadow
[09:24] <sammcneill> ok thanks garry
[09:25] <NickZA> sammcneill, ive found that vnc'ing to a machine without a monitor will default to 640x480 I couldnt get around that, seemed that ubuntu defaulted to 640x480 if no monitor at boot up
[09:25] <garry> sammcneill good luck with that.
[09:25] <htedrom> uhh hey all
[09:25] <tkroo> g3wn, mines a tower. i also made a live cd for a computer my roomie just gave me. a celeron, with only 64MB :( so it won't run
[09:25] <htedrom> i just installed ubuntu
[09:25] <htedrom> and...
[09:25] <htedrom> it never asked for a root password
[09:25] <sammcneill> NickZA - ok  but I have a monitor plugged into it at the moment
[09:25] <htedrom> now i'm in gnome, logged into my user account
[09:25] <g3wn> tkroo: :/
[09:25] <sammcneill> and it still defaults to 640x480...
[09:25] <htedrom> and i don't know the root password
[09:25] <topyli> sammcneill: sudo dpkg-reconfigurre xserver-xorg
[09:25] <sammcneill> looking in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf at the moment
[09:25] <htedrom> i feel locked out of my own house
[09:25] <htedrom> anyone?
[09:26] <sammcneill> but I am not hero at editing that!
[09:26] <NickZA> sammcneill, then u'll be fine till reboot (from my experience)
[09:26] <topyli> sammcneill: choose some nice resolutions and set a default
[09:26] <sammcneill> ok testing...
[09:26] <majd_> is there a way to make the tooltips come up right of the cursor?
[09:26] <sammcneill> topyli got an error:
[09:26] <majd_> it keeps getting in the way
[09:27] <garry> !telll htedrom about root
[09:27] <sammcneill> dpkg: conflicting actions --control and -remove
[09:27] <garry> !tell htedrom about root
[09:27] <omer> Where is the ubuntu 5.10 hardwear suport?
[09:27] <garry> evil keyboards
[09:27] <tkroo> :)
[09:27] <NickZA> ok im stumped at phase 1, i want to create a test page but I cant write to /var/www can someone help me pls
[09:27] <Madpilot> htedrom: there isn't a root pw - use sudo and your own pw
[09:27] <htedrom> no shit.
[09:27] <htedrom> that's nutty.
[09:28] <ashyg> no root pw? what if someone tries to ssh into your computer as root?
[09:28] <htedrom> yea or what if you like the hash symbol
[09:29] <Madpilot> ashyg: technicially I guess there is a root pw, but it's some stupidly long random string AFAIK
[09:29] <fek> moin
[09:29] <topyli> sammcneill: never seen such a message. i made a typo there btw. should be "dpkg-reconfigure" of course
[09:29] <ashyg> error processing kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-686_2.4.27-12_i386.deb package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
[09:29] <ashyg> :(
[09:29] <tkroo> NickZA, you should put your web files into your users site folder? not /var/www/
[09:29] <ashyg> man, i guess i'm not using ubuntu
[09:30] <topyli> sammcneill: anyway, i'm not sure if the resolutuion of your X server has anything to do with the resolution you're going to get with VNC
[09:30] <ashyg> until it gets updated to use an up-to-date kernel
[09:30] <ashyg> because this is an absolute pain and i've been working on it for 13 hours straight
[09:30] <tkroo> NickZA, but i don't know what you have set up
[09:30] <sethk> ashyg, you have to install amd64 headers on an amd64 system
[09:30] <sethk> ashyg, it is somewhat involved
[09:30] <ashyg> sethk there are none at packages.ubuntu.com
[09:30] <sammcneill> topyli ok into reconfig now... but you think the VNC res is always going to be mud?
[09:30] <sethk> ashyg, sure there are, I have a 386 system but I see the package in my list
[09:30] <ashyg> i need the dapper kernel because it has the uli drivers for my ethernet
[09:30] <NickZA> tkroo, just installed apache,mysql and php with all its default settings
[09:31] <topyli> ashyg: the kernel is for a different architechture. it's also a debian kernel. moreover, why do you want a 2.4 kernel?
[09:31] <ashyg> sethk i looked through and i don't see any amd64 dapper .deb
[09:31] <tkroo> NickZA, ok, so where do you point your browser to look at your webserver root?
[09:31] <ashyg> i just want the dapper kernel
[09:31] <ashyg> i don't care, i need the dapper kernel and that's all i want running :(
[09:31] <sethk> ashyg, ok, that's possible, if I use unreleased software I don't bitch about it not being finished
[09:31] <selinium> nalioth, ping!.....
[09:31] <topyli> sammcneill: no idea. i think you can set it when you run the vnc server
[09:31] <NickZA> tkroo, simply using local ip address
[09:31] <sammcneill> yeah that is waht I thought too
[09:31] <tkroo> NickZA, probably localhost or ip, hmmm,
[09:31] <tkroo> ok
[09:32] <ashyg> sethk then how do i get it running
[09:32] <topyli> ashyg: ubuntu never had a 2.4 kernel. i doubt dapper will revert to one either. looks like it's going to have 2.6.15
[09:32] <Madpilot> ashyg: current in Breezy is 2.6.12-10- -- why are you trying to use a 2.4.x kernel?
[09:32] <sethk> ashyg, why do you need dapper?  use breezy
[09:32] <sethk> ashyg, if you need a 2.4 kernel, don't use ubuntu
[09:32] <Toma-> quickquick!!! anyone know how to record audio streams from say mplayer-plugin???? my band is about to be on the radio :O
[09:33] <tkroo> well on os x there's this directory /Webserver/Documents/  <-- that's where you put your served files
[09:33] <sethk> ashyg, slackware still ships with a 2.4 kernel, as does one of the debian flavors
[09:33] <ashyg> sethk jesus dude breezy doesn't have the ethernet driver i need
[09:33] <nbound> ashyg, AMD64 cpus have probs on 2.4 kernels as well
[09:33] <topyli> ashyg: which is?
[09:33] <ashyg> and i was just trying to follow paulproteus' directions to install the kernel
[09:33] <ashyg> topyli: the one for the uli
[09:33] <sethk> ashyg, sounds like you really aren't a good candidate for ubuntu
[09:33] <topyli> ashyg: what is "the uli"?
[09:33] <selinium> ashyg: ask for help in getting the ethernet driver you need might be a start! :)
[09:34] <ashyg> ULi m5261
[09:34] <nalioth> selinium: ping?
[09:34] <ashyg> selinium: they have the driver at the uli.com.tw site but it's a source you need to add to your kernel they said
[09:34] <brx> Toma-: I believe there is a plugin for xmms which allows you to redirect sound output to a file
[09:35] <Toma-> ahhhh of course!
[09:35] <brx> Toma-: mplayer should be able to do that too. I can't look cause I don't have it installed at the moment.
[09:36] <Toma-> ahhh its on :D too late
[09:36] <brx> :)
[09:36] <selinium> Morning nalioth, I was just looking into the affero.com, and your name appeared second from the top. How have you been getting on with it? I was thinking that maybe something similar could be used in the channel?
[09:36] <brx> Toma-: grab a mic and arecord it!
[09:36] <topyli> ashyg: so, the tulip driver doesn't work?
[09:36] <Toma-> dont have one!
[09:37] <ashyg> topyli: correct, it's a known issue in the kernel
[09:37] <Toma-> http://www.radiofremantle.com/player.htm
[09:37] <brx> Toma-: or better, turn off all other sound, setup alsa to record from the mix and arecord
[09:37] <selinium> nalioth, ok
[09:37] <topyli> ashyg: and it's fixed in 2.6.15?
[09:37] <NickZA> tkroo, the pages that are pulled up be default are located under var/www/apache2-default but I have no access there
[09:37] <chemisus> i just installed the server of ubuntu on a computer without a cdrom, and now when i try to install from apt-get, it asks me for the ubuntu cd... are theyre any packages i can install to get around this?
[09:38] <ftg2> chemisus: look at /etc/apt/sources.list .. comment out the cdrom source
[09:38] <chemisus> im trying to get build-essential
[09:38] <chemisus> ok, thanks
[09:38] <ashyg> topyli: yes
[09:39] <cdubya> Toma-, kewl. :)
[09:39] <Toma-> :P
[09:39] <topyli> ashyg: ok, you could try the dapper kernel but please grab the dapper kernel instead of some old debian one :)
[09:39] <tkroo> NickZA, do a search for "index.html.nl" that should reside in the directory you are looking for.    try #apache?
[09:39] <Toma-> hopefully they play a song
[09:39] <Toma-> sweet
[09:40] <ashyg> linux-headers-2.6.15-11-amd64-generic_2.6.15-11.16_amd64.deb
[09:40] <viperX> Could someone help me out for a sec please?
[09:40] <ashyg> that look good, topyli?
[09:40] <topyli> no :)
[09:40] <brx> Toma-: mms://203.59.129.151/RadioFremantle
[09:40] <viperX> Where can I go to download modules from?
[09:40] <brx> Toma-: that your band playing?
[09:40] <Toma-> brx: yep
[09:40] <ashyg> oh i want the image
[09:40] <ashyg> not headers
[09:40] <topyli> try the linux-image package for amd64 from here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/
[09:40] <NickZA> tkroo that page is also under var/www/apache2-default
[09:41] <brx> Toma-: are you the singer? ;)
[09:41] <chemisus> !repos
[09:41] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:41] <Toma-> nah, bass+backing on this track
[09:41] <Zen> so what's the deal--I delete the pictures off my xd card so I can take some new pictures and they disappear, but...the space is still gone?
[09:41] <Toma-> s/backing/backing vocals
[09:41] <htedrom> hey all...does ubuntu use alsa?
[09:41] <htedrom> for sound?
[09:41] <garry> viperX, if ye mean you want to install some apps and stuff use System/Administration/Package Manager.
[09:42] <garry> yes it uses alsa
[09:42] <htedrom> i'm not getting any sound for my soundblaster
[09:42] <htedrom> *from my
[09:42] <viperX> I don't have an internet connection for my Linux box. Is there a site that I can download modules from my iMac and then transfer to my Linux box?
[09:42] <brx> Toma-: cheesy part.
[09:43] <Mabus06> viperX, do you mean packages?
[09:43] <Toma-> brx: :D chix dig it
[09:43] <garry> htedrom see what's under System/Preferences/Sound
[09:43] <Toma-> its the "awwww thats nice, wanna come home with me" part
[09:43] <viperX> No i mean specific modules, like usb-storage module.
[09:44] <Toma-> wish i could be recording this :/
[09:44] <viperX> I also need the modprobe module.
[09:44] <htedrom> garry: there's no default sound card
[09:44] <brx> Toma-: don't you have it in better quality at your computer anyway? :)
[09:44] <brx> s/at/on
[09:44] <Toma-> yeh
[09:44] <htedrom> garry: but when i run the ubuntu live cd, there's sound
[09:44] <Toma-> :D
[09:44] <Mabus06> viperX, aren't both of those on ubuntu by default?
[09:44] <tkroo> NickZA, i'm not sure, srry
[09:44] <topyli> viperX: modprobe is not a module. and usb-storage should be in the default ubuntu kernel
[09:45] <NickZA> sigh this is frustrating as I expected
[09:45] <garry> htedrom hmmm, that is very odd. It should have been no problem at all. Do you have an integrated sound on your MB that you have not disabled in addition to the soundblaster?
[09:45] <htedrom> garry, negative
[09:45] <cdubya> NickZA, can you get to anything at all when you try to access the web server, or is every page saying you don't have permission?
[09:45] <viperX> Ummm, actually I'm suing Suse (don't hate me...), but no one was talking to me in any of the Suse channels, so i thought that I come here, becaue you guys have always been nice to me.
[09:46] <viperX> *using Suse
[09:46] <htedrom> garry, it said something about gstreamer when i did the install
[09:46] <NickZA> cdubya, the webserver is running fine I just dont have any write access to do anything
[09:46] <garry> htedrom ok, go to a terminal, applications/accessories/terminal and doa  dmesg and see if you find any error messsages.
[09:47] <cdubya> NickZA, give me your definition of write access
[09:47] <majd_> how do i add applications to the applications menu?
[09:47] <viperX> When i enter modprobe in the Terminal, it says command not found. So it has to be something that I have to install.
[09:47] <Toma-> brx: i sing this next one :D
[09:47] <NickZA> cdubya, for example I cant create a new .html file or new folder under the root/default web directory
[09:47] <topyli> viperX: this is not a very good place for suse support. but i'd think even suse should those things
[09:47] <garry> htedrom Gstreamer is a package that you might need to get/reinstall via System/Administation/Package Manager, in search box search for gstreamer.
[09:48] <viperX> usb-storage doesn't seem to be installed either.
[09:48] <ftg2> viperX: modprobe is the kind of thing you run as root.. if you aren't currently root its likely not even in your path.
[09:48] <viperX> one sec....
[09:48] <htedrom> garry, i'll try that
[09:48] <garry> good luck with that, I am hoping it works for you.
[09:48] <htedrom> this is really screwy
[09:48] <cdubya> NickZA, and you tried to sudo mkdir whatever_you_want_the_dir_to_be and then chowned it to www-data?
[09:48] <htedrom> root programs don't launch
[09:49] <topyli> viperX: i guess modprobe just isn't in your path. try "/sbin/modprobe usb-storage". you also need to be root
[09:49] <htedrom> like that updates reminder in the top right
[09:49] <htedrom> it won't give me a dialog to put in the root password
[09:49] <viperX> ok, let me try that.
[09:49] <htedrom> synaptic won't either
[09:49] <tkroo> !rules
[09:49] <ubotu> I guess coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[09:49] <htedrom> and nothing happens when itry to  "add application" to the menu
[09:49] <tkroo> NickZA, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/core.html#documentroot
[09:50] <NickZA> cdubya, well im not using the terminal didnt expect that I would need that was simply using explorer but I will try via terminal
[09:50] <garry> stranger and stranger still. htedrom has a soundblaster but the install didn't detect it but said something about gstreamer that flew by too fast to read.
[09:51] <NickZA> thanks tkroo will check that, have to go to a 2hr long meeting now :(
[09:51] <tkroo> cheers
[09:52] <viperX> Hey that worked! Thanks! :)
[09:52] <garry> htedrom I wonder if the dialog box is showing up behind some other app that is running. I've seen that before.
[09:52] <viperX> Thats sad. I had to come to the Ubuntu channel to get help with the Suse distro
[09:52] <htedrom> garry, no, i shaded everything
[09:54] <ubuntu> sorry to interrupt guys, but did any of you have exprerience setting a broadcom wireless device. Version 5.10 detects it as an uknown device.
[09:54] <garry> htedrom something went wrong installing. Too many things that should not be failing are failing. I suggest reinstall.  also check the /var/log directory for messages
[09:54] <htedrom> yea i'm looking around /var/log
[09:54] <htedrom> not much here
[09:54] <garry> nods
[09:55] <viperX> topyli: How would I place modprobe in my path, so that I don't have to 'su -' the next time that I want to do that?
[09:55] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm.
[09:55] <Psi-Jack> Anyone know how to get an ATI AiW Radeon 8500's TV Tuner to work?
[09:55] <Psi-Jack> I noticed, Ubuntu's HAL didn't pick it up.
[09:56] <adem> hello i have ethernet also dial up for time been and i wanna setup my dial up
[09:56] <adem> can anyone help me ?
[09:58] <adem> ....?????????????
[09:58] <garry> htedrom as a last resort before reinstalling, might as well try at command line sudo apt-get install dist-upgrade
[09:58] <ftg2> viperX: try looking in /etc/profile, to change the default path.. alternatively you can add to the $PATH variable with export.. export PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin .. that change will only hang around until you exit the shell though
[09:59] <htedrom> i've gotta crash...school tomorrow
[09:59] <htedrom> but i'll work this out tmr
[09:59] <viperX> oh, ok. I'll try both.
[09:59] <htedrom> thanks for the help garry
[09:59] <garry> Ok, gnight, good luck
[09:59] <garry> htedrom welcome
[09:59] <adem> garry can you help me ?
[09:59] <viperX> thanks ftg2!
[09:59] <ftg2> viperX: also pretty sure a reboot is required for changes to /etc/profile to take effect. not sure about that though
[10:00] <garry> adem sorry, I don't know how to set up dialup on linux. DSL here, no dialup.
[10:00] <adem> ok can anyone else help me
[10:00] <adem> thanx anywayz garry
[10:01] <garry> !tell adem about dialup
[10:01] <adem> ty
[10:01] <garry> adem there ye go, the bot should have sent you info on setting up dialup.
[10:01] <adem> cheers
[10:01] <garry> welcome
[10:03] <a-team> .ll,l
[10:03] <a-team> riv
[10:08] <NickZA> meeting postponed for 2 hrs
[10:09] <Psi-Jack> Anyone know how to get an ATI AiW Radeon 8500's TV Tuner to work? I noticed, Ubuntu's HAL didn't pick it up.
[10:10] <NickZA> the doc states that root should be /usr/local/apache/htdocs however this does not exist, also I am not able to create folders under /usr/local ?
[10:10] <wckdkl0wn> can someone help me with setting up the newest version of xchat
[10:10] <Seveas> nickrud, bad docks
[10:10] <Seveas> docs even
[10:10] <wckdkl0wn> i have the deb file
[10:10] <aggressor> can someone help me in winevcs ?
[10:10] <Seveas> NickZA, Ubuntu apache2 by default looks in /var/www
[10:10] <Seveas> !deb
[10:10] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[10:10] <Seveas> ^-- wckdkl0wn
[10:10] <wckdkl0wn> tryed that
[10:11] <Seveas> wckdkl0wn, any error messages? -> on the pastebin
[10:11] <aggressor> !wine
[10:11] <wckdkl0wn> pastebin?
[10:11] <NickZA> Seveas, my problem is that I dont seem to have write permissions for /var/www to create new pages/folders ?
[10:11] <Seveas> wckdkl0wn, see /topic
[10:11] <Seveas> NickZA, sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /var/www
[10:12] <NickZA> Seveas, perfect thats done it
[10:12] <wckdkl0wn> ok pasted
[10:13] <ulumwe> help! it seems that 6 hours ago a gnome network config tool destroyed the network drivers or something on my breezy installation. for all linux knows, i have no network cards. On top of that, no matter the user account i create, i can't get gnome to start. This is a pretty bad crash and I need help quite desperately. I'd reinstall except i have no way of backing up my home directories without a network connection. help!!
[10:14] <wckdkl0wn> Seveas, pasted
[10:14] <adem> hello i have ethernet also dial up for time been and i wanna setup my dial up
[10:14] <Psi-Jack> Oh!
[10:14] <sudharsh> adem: do u hav a cdma dialup?
[10:14] <sudharsh> or an ordinary 1
[10:14] <Psi-Jack> Apparently Ubuntu has a gatos package, for the ATI AiW TV.. heh
[10:14] <Seveas> wckdkl0wn, download the xchat-common .deb file from the same place you got the xchat .deb file from
[10:14] <adem> whats cdma ?
[10:15] <Seveas> wckdkl0wn, and do the same trick with it (dpkg -i)
[10:15] <adem> my modem is bulit in
[10:15] <sudharsh> so u r havin an ordianry thingy
[10:15] <adem> *built
[10:15] <wckdkl0wn> Seveas, ok i will try it
[10:15] <sudharsh> adem: tried System > Administrattion > Networking?
[10:16] <ulumwe> any chance someone here can help me fix my broken breezy?
[10:16] <sudharsh> ulumwe: what is the problem?
[10:16] <adem> yea
[10:16] <adem> i did
[10:16] <ulumwe> it seems that 6 hours ago a gnome network config tool destroyed the network drivers or something on my breezy installation. for all linux knows, i have no network cards. On top of that, no matter the user account i create, i can't get gnome to start. I'd reinstall except i have no way of backing up my home directories without a network connection.
[10:16] <sudharsh> whats the problem u r havin there
[10:16] <adem> it wont detect my modem
[10:17] <wckdkl0wn> Seveas, is there a way i can use apt-get to get it?
[10:17] <sudharsh> alrito....try gnome-ppp
[10:17] <sudharsh> jus configured it now...and it works!
[10:17] <sudharsh> adem: sudo apt-get install gnome-ppp
[10:17] <ulumwe> guess not huh
[10:18] <garry> ulumwe, are you able to ping say www.yahoo.com from the command line and get a response?
[10:18] <sudharsh> ulumwe: well see bout the home trouble
[10:18] <Seveas> wckdkl0wn, you could add the repository you got it from to your sources.list
[10:18] <adem> k one sec
[10:18] <adem> root@nigga:/home/adem/Desktop# sudo apt-get install gnome-ppp
[10:18] <adem> Reading package lists... Done
[10:18] <adem> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:18] <adem> E: Couldn't find package gnome-ppp
[10:18] <adem> root@nigga:/home/adem/Desktop#
[10:18] <ulumwe> garry: no network card detected, period.
[10:18] <wckdkl0wn> Seveas, i dont remember where that is now
[10:18] <sudharsh> whats the problem about not getting gnome 2 start
[10:18] <sudharsh> adem: add repositories
[10:18] <sudharsh> !source-o-matic
[10:18] <ubotu> sudharsh: Wish i knew
[10:18] <majd_> why does it say i don't have permission to a folder when i'm root?
[10:19] <adem> how do i add ?
[10:19] <sudharsh> !source.list
[10:19] <ubotu> sudharsh: Are you smoking crack?
[10:19] <Seveas> !easysource
[10:19] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:19] <Seveas> !source-o-matic is <reply> see easysource
[10:19] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[10:19] <sudharsh> adem: try the link ubotu gave now
[10:19] <Seveas> wckdkl0wn, I think Ubuntu backport project, but am not sure
[10:19] <sudharsh> else wait...
[10:19] <sudharsh> open source.list
[10:19] <adem> ok
[10:20] <majd_> why does it say i don't have permission to a folder when i'm root?
[10:20] <wckdkl0wn> Seveas, i am new to linux so i dunno what u mean
[10:21] <phos-phoros> ubotu sudharsh: Are you smoking crack? ...for a sec there I thought the bot went awol
[10:21] <ubotu> phos-phoros: okay
[10:21] <ftg2> ah, majd_ was too impatient. i was going to tell him why he might not have permission. ;|
[10:21] <Seveas> wckdkl0wn, then just stick to xchat 2.4...
[10:21] <nizadem> not working
[10:21] <majd> hey,
[10:21] <nizadem> sudharsg
[10:21] <majd> i'm trying to copy files to my localhost directory but it says i don't have permissions
[10:21] <Seveas> !forget ubotu sudharsh:
[10:21] <ubotu> Seveas: i didn't have anything called 'ubotu sudharsh:'
[10:21] <Seveas> hmm
[10:21] <NickZA> ok I have placed both a .php and a .html file under the /var/www/apache-default folder yet when browing to it I get "Not Found" ?
[10:21] <Seveas> !forget sudharsh:
[10:21] <ubotu> i forgot sudharsh:, Seveas
[10:22] <garry> !tell ulumwe about networking
[10:22] <Seveas> sudharsh, by saying that you inadvertedly added something to the bot ;)
[10:22] <tkroo> hehe, i just got the bots name :)
[10:22] <nizadem>  sudharsh what next
[10:22] <majd> NickZA, it won't let me paste anything either
[10:22] <Seveas> !forget actually mp3's
[10:22] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot actually mp3's
[10:22] <garry> !tell ulumwe about network setup
[10:22] <nizadem> i cant setup my dial up
[10:22] <nizadem> ?
[10:22] <sudharsh> jus gr8!!!
[10:23] <NickZA> majd sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /var/www that Seveas gave me at least gave me write access to the folder, try that
[10:23] <NickZA> so I now have files there, but apache does not seem to be locating them
[10:23] <sudharsh> type 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list
[10:23] <ftg2> majd: look at the permissions with ls -l.. just because you are root does not mean the permissions will let you manipulate the file
[10:23] <tkroo> NickZA, find your httpd.conf file
[10:23] <garry> !tell ulumwe about network
[10:23] <Toma-> NickZA: i think they have to be executable
[10:24] <tkroo> and search in that file for DocumentRoot
[10:24] <majd> NickZA, am i supposed to replace $USER with something?
[10:24] <NickZA> no i didnt
[10:24] <ftg2> majd: change them to something sensible with chmod
[10:24] <ulumwe> thanks garry that has no bearing on my problem
[10:24] <majd> awsome
[10:24] <majd> that worked
[10:24] <NickZA> search doesnt find a httpd.conf file on the system ?
[10:24] <nizadem> hello i have ethernet also dial up for time been and i wanna setup my dial up
[10:25] <majd> thanks ftg2 and NickZA
[10:25] <garry> yeah, ubutu is like a box of chocolates, ye never know what yer gonna git.
[10:25] <sudharsh> type 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list
[10:25] <tkroo> NickZA, :)
[10:25] <sudharsh> nizdem: type 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list
[10:25] <tkroo> NickZA, there's gotta be an apache config file somewhere there :)
[10:25] <majd> NickZA, i just got php, mysql, and apache2 workin on ubuntu
[10:25] <NickZA> thats the output im gettig from filesystem search
[10:26] <sudharsh> NickZA: first sudo updatedb
[10:26] <sudharsh> then locate httpd.conf
[10:26] <NickZA> majd, same here first installation for me, so far its a pain in the *ass :)
[10:26] <majd> weird, it went pretty smooth except for that one problem
[10:26] <majd> i just stuck my folder in apache2-default/
[10:26] <ulumwe> Seveas: you are the most linux educated man in here - can you help me get gnome and networking back? They seem quite literally broken on my breezy installation.
[10:27] <majd> then opened it in firefox
[10:27] <majd> smooth
[10:27] <NickZA> locate returned nothing
[10:27] <sudharsh> NickZA: u gotta updatedb first
[10:27] <Seveas> ulumwe, I can't get into bad problems now, have a meeting shortly
[10:27] <NickZA> sudharsh, how do I do that ?
[10:27] <Seveas> maybe later
[10:27] <sudharsh> sudo updatedb
[10:27] <ulumwe> i understand :)
[10:27] <Kachingo> Howdy, I was just wondering, how do I mount a partition?
[10:27] <HCl> can anyone help me getting software suspend working with ubuntu?
[10:28] <sudharsh> Kachingo: check te fstab
[10:28] <garry> ulumwe if you need to save stuff, I'd get a flash drive, el-cheapo, or gparted to create a partition you can save your goodies to and then get them back after reinstall. Then gparted to merge the partition back.
[10:29] <robotgeek> NickZA: for apache2, /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[10:29] <Kachingo> sudharsh: fstab?
[10:29] <sudharsh> Kachingo: ya 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab'
[10:29] <garry> !tell Kachingo about fstab
[10:29] <NickZA> should sudo updatedb take a long time ?
[10:30] <NickZA> ok there its done
[10:30] <ulumwe> garry, gparted requires gnome.
[10:30] <sudharsh> NickZA: takes bout 2 minutes
[10:30] <sudharsh> it indexes files in ur pc
[10:30] <NickZA> ok done that now I find httpd.conf
[10:30] <garry> ulumwe oh, he's not using gnome. Ok.
[10:30] <majd>  i just installed mysql, but i don't know what the username and password are
[10:31] <sudharsh> yup locate httpd.conf
[10:31] <garry> root password blank till you change it last I checked.
[10:31] <NickZA> httpd.conf contains no information
[10:31] <sudharsh> majd: i dont think thers a password
[10:31] <sudharsh> try root without a password
[10:31] <majd> #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)
[10:31] <garry> but that was windoze version.
[10:31] <robotgeek> NickZA: try apache.conf
[10:31] <tkroo> NickZA, if you search in httpd.conf there's a section called DocumentRoot, that should show you the path to your web served directory
[10:31] <majd> sudharsh, that has nothing to do with p/w does it/
[10:32] <flakr> =/ i just changed my password and forgot it right away
[10:32] <sudharsh> majd: not username is 'root' and no password
[10:32] <garry> Odes of burning hte midnight oil
[10:32] <NickZA> no apache.conf
[10:32] <tkroo> httpd.conf
[10:32] <ftg2> flakr: i did that the other day. you can boot into single user mode and change it.. provided you didn't set and forget a grub password as well.
[10:32] <sudharsh> NickZA: u sure u installed it rite?
[10:32] <majd> sudharsh, that's what i'm using
[10:33] <aggressor> Can someone help me ???
[10:33] <sudharsh> majd: no no password at first
[10:33] <NickZA> sudharsh, I simply did default installation of apache/mysql/php only thing I havent done is rebooted
[10:33] <midwinter> when I installed ubuntu I put my home dir on a seperate hdd, but now i'm thinking if I reinstall in the future all these configs and stuff in my home dir wont correspond to anything unless I reinstall the same apps..  I suppose I couldn't reinstall and then delete all the hidden stuff? that would break wouldn't it...
[10:33] <aggressor> Need help overhere.. please
[10:33] <garry> we won't know till you ask the question.
[10:33] <sudharsh> NickZA: it doesnt matter
[10:33] <flakr> ftg2 uhhh
[10:33] <majd> sudharsh, i'm not using a password
[10:34] <majd> i get this error: #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)
[10:34] <flakr> im talking bout my irc apssword
[10:34] <sudharsh> alrito...chek whether u r havin this /var/www
[10:34] <ftg2> flakr: oh lol
[10:34] <sudharsh> majd: try running it in safe mode
[10:34] <majd> yup :)
[10:35] <majd> sudharsh, where would mysql be at ?
[10:35] <NickZA> yes I have /var/www and the default apache docs are in /var/www/apache2-default
[10:35] <majd> i'm trying to login from phpmyadmin
[10:35] <sudharsh> NickZA: try the ls and give the output
[10:36] <timfrost> aggressor, tell us your problem, and somebody may respond
[10:36] <tkroo> NickZA, you found a file called httpd.conf? and it was empty?
[10:36] <sudharsh> majd: goto terminal and see if u r able to connect properly
[10:36] <guillem101> mmm, something has changed with nvidia drivers, hasn't it? nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-dev are now obsolete packages??
[10:36] <NickZA> httpd.conf is there with 3 lines commented out
[10:36] <majd> tkroo, with apache2, httpd.conf is empty
[10:36] <tkroo> oh
[10:37] <majd> the config file is apache2.conf
[10:37] <sudharsh> its not for me
[10:37] <sudharsh> majd: oh i installed apache 2 from source
[10:37] <majd> ERROR 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[10:37] <sudharsh> majd: check the configuration file of phpmyadmin if u r able to connect to mysql through terminal
[10:37] <NickZA> ah yes I have an apache2.conf file full of data
[10:38] <tkroo> :)
[10:38] <sudharsh> majd: did u initialize the database
[10:38] <majd> sudharsh, that's what i get when i type 'mysql'
[10:38] <sudharsh> ?
[10:38] <majd> sudharsh, don't know how =\
[10:38] <sudharsh> majd: open up a terminal
[10:38] <majd> ok
[10:38] <sudharsh> type mysql and <tab>
[10:38] <sudharsh> it'll show u all commands that starts with mysql
[10:39] <majd> k
[10:39] <sudharsh> look for something like mysql-init or whatever
[10:39] <sudharsh> forgot exactly
[10:39] <NickZA> what do I need to change in apache2.conf ?
[10:39] <Guard] [an> hello
[10:39] <tkroo> you don't need to change anything
[10:40] <sudharsh> u need not change anythin if u r gonna keep the docs in the default dir
[10:40] <chugga> does ubuntu's package system have a hard time dealing with change - updates, upgrades and so on?
[10:40] <NickZA> my problem is 404 not found when the file exists
[10:40] <tkroo> just look at the line DocumentRoot, that will show you where to put your web files
[10:40] <majd> sudharsh, http://pastebin.com/502140
[10:40] <sudharsh> NickZA: the docs must be readble
[10:40] <sudharsh> okie dokie
[10:40] <Guard] [an> i'm new to ubuntu, i just ran the update manager which told me to run synaptic to complete the upgrade, however synaptic says it needs to remove xubuntu-desktop :( should i proceed ???
[10:40] <aggressor> !timfrost, have u ever downlaod games is linux-gamers.net, if i gonna install that gonna ask CD
[10:40] <sudharsh> brb
[10:40] <Toma-> Guard] [an: yep
[10:41] <tkroo> well, if you haven't set up php yet, you may need to change somethings. but i'm not familiar with apache2 so imma be quiet :)
[10:41] <majd> ok
[10:41] <Guard] [an> will it install xubuntu-desktop again ?
[10:41] <NickZA> there is no documentroot entry only serverroot
[10:41] <majd> nickza, my guess is you simply typed it wrong
[10:41] <majd> what url are you using?
[10:41] <Toma-> Guard] [an: you'll still have everything xubuntu-desktop gave you (xfce etc.)
[10:41] <timfrost> aggressor, I don't use linux-gamers.ner.  Hopefully somebody who does can assist you
[10:42] <Toma-> Guard] [an: its called a meta-package. doesnt contain anything
[10:42] <Guard] [an> oh
[10:42] <Guard] [an> ok
[10:42] <Toma-> aggressor: what are u trying to do?
[10:42] <Guard] [an> proceeding then :)
[10:42] <sudharsh> NickZA: u gotta do some changes in the index
[10:42] <nelposto> hmmm hmm .. what is /proc?
[10:42] <aggressor> Toma- , trying 2 install game
[10:42] <Toma-> aggressor: what game?
[10:43] <aggressor> Toma- , in linux-gamers.net
[10:43] <garry> !tell nelposto about /proc
[10:43] <majd> nickza, this is what i used to access my site: http://localhost/apache2-default/cip/
[10:43] <aggressor> Toma/ ,tacticalops-3.1.5-install-x86.run
[10:43] <NickZA> permisions on doc is already read
[10:43] <aggressor> toma- , if i type sh tacticalops-3.1.5-install-x86.run it gonna ask CD
[10:43] <owner> tactical ops is old
[10:43] <Toma-> aggressor: yep.
[10:43] <owner> play true combat elite
[10:43] <owner> way better
[10:43] <sudharsh> majd: try /etc/init.d/mysqld start
[10:43] <weekang> hi, wondering if anyone can help with getting scilab working on a breezy install?
[10:43] <garry> Proc is a directory that shows informatin about file systems, cpu stats, devices, and other stuff about what linux detectedon your system.
[10:44] <sudharsh> NickZA: i hav a walkthrough for installing from source...want em?
[10:44] <NickZA> majd, u made the cip directory correct ?
[10:44] <weekang> i tried both apt-get and standalone binary but both don't work
[10:44] <aggressor> Toma- , i just wanna test,
[10:44] <Toma-> aggressor: have you got the CD?
[10:44] <NickZA> pls sudharsh
[10:44] <Kachingo> where am I meant to put the diskmounter file?
[10:44] <nelposto> thanks garry .. see I'm trying to give my laptop hibernation ability with suspend2 .. and I think there are supposed to be some files in /proc
[10:44] <nelposto> but they're not there
[10:44] <aggressor> Toma- , nope i downloaded that
[10:44] <owner> true combat elite mod for enemy territory is free
[10:44] <sudharsh> drop me ur email id?
[10:44] <majd> NickZA, yeah
[10:45] <garry> nelposto good luck with that. Some have been having "Funstration" with suspend.
[10:45] <majd> sudharsh, me?
[10:45] <nelposto> garry oh, i've had alot more than funstration with this little suspend thing
[10:45] <weekang> can someone help me with getting scilab to work on ubuntu?
[10:45] <garry> nelposto yep,.
[10:45] <nelposto> but i've had it working before, and now I've reformatted .. and :'( CRYS
[10:45] <sudharsh> majd: i meant NickZa
[10:45] <garry> well gnight all
[10:45] <majd> oh
[10:45] <sudharsh> majd: try /etc/init.d/mysqld start
[10:46] <majd> sudharsh there's no mysqld file in init.d
[10:46] <majd> or do you mean type in terminal?
[10:46] <aggressor> Toma- , ill try 2 download enemy territoy
[10:46] <Seveas> it's called mysq;
[10:46] <Seveas> mysql even...
[10:46] <sudharsh> k now try 'top' and see if the server is running
[10:46] <majd> there's nothing starting with my
[10:46] <NickZA> sudharsh, u get it ?
[10:46] <grayhane> trying to rip with grip,   invalid encoder executable. check encoder config and ensure it specifies the full path to the executable.
[10:46] <Toma-> aggressor: i can only help u with legit installs. :( moral reasons
[10:46] <sudharsh> no i didnt
[10:47] <g3wn> anyone have a link for setting up a Intel Pro/Wireless 2200BG network card?
[10:47] <sudharsh> !wireless
[10:47] <ubotu> rumour has it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[10:48] <sudharsh> g3wn: try the link ubotu gave now
[10:48] <NickZA> majd, if I point browser to localhost it reads the contents of the index that is in the default folder, put if I place my own document in the default folder I get not found
[10:48] <sudharsh> NickZA: what do u mean index.html ones?
[10:48] <g3wn> thank you sudharsh
[10:49] <majd> NickZA, weird, i just dragged my site into apache2-defalut and acessed it through http://localhost/apache2-default
[10:49] <NickZA> nod, but I got it working now, pointing to localhost goes to /var/www and not to /apache2-default
[10:50] <sudharsh> NickZA: u installed debian pakages?
[10:50] <robotgeek> g3wn, check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto for tips on setting your wireless up
[10:50] <NickZA> sudharsh, nod direct from synaptic
[10:50] <NickZA> seems to be working fine now though
[10:50] <sudharsh> okie dokie :)
[10:51] <g3wn> robotgeek: nice, thanks
[10:51] <sudharsh> majd: is the mysql process running?
[10:51] <NickZA> http://localhost/apache2-default/hello.php worked as opposed to http://localhost/hello.php
[10:52] <sudharsh> of course dats the document root
[10:52] <NickZA> so I assume that means my php is working correctly too
[10:52] <sudharsh> yup:
[10:52] <sudharsh> :)
[10:53] <NickZA> how can I test that mysql is working ?
[10:53] <sudharsh> yeah..
[10:53] <sudharsh> d/l phpmyadmin
[10:53] <sudharsh> and if it works evrythin is alrito
[10:53] <tkroo> NickZA, you can create a php file with this in it: <?php phpinfo() ?>
[10:54] <tkroo> and look at it in your browser, it will show you all kinds of info
[10:54] <NickZA> ok let me try that quick
[10:54] <topyli> NickZA: telnet to localhost:3306
[10:54] <tkroo> modules loaded etc... you should see mysql in there
[10:54] <sudharsh> <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[10:54] <sudharsh> dont forget the semi colon
[10:55] <sudharsh> majd: i think this might interst u majd
[10:55] <sudharsh> http://docdb.fnal.gov/doc/mysqld.html
[10:56] <majd> sudharsh,  Unknown(/var/www/apache2-default/phpinfo.php): failed to open stream: Permission denied in Unknown on line 0
[10:56] <majd> Warning: (null)(): Failed opening '/var/www/apache2-default/phpinfo.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in Unknown on line 0
[10:57] <NickZA> connect failed and nothing showed up on the page with <?php phpinfo() ?>
[10:57] <sudharsh> majd: what was the contenst of the php file
[10:57] <majd> i can't edit the text files cause they'r all read only
[10:57] <majd> <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[10:57] <sudharsh> u gotaa make em executable
[10:57] <owner> majd edit them as sudo
[10:57] <majd> how?
[10:57] <sudharsh> majd: u gotta make em world executbale
[10:58] <pfarmer> .php files don't need to be executable
[10:58] <owner> just type sudo gedit
[10:58] <sudharsh> using good ol chmod
[10:58] <majd> ah
[10:58] <majd> now it worked
[10:58] <majd> i get the good old phpinfo page
[10:58] <owner> chmod wont change file permissions
[10:58] <majd> i changed chmod to 755
[10:58] <sudharsh> :)
[10:58] <sudharsh> dont make em worl writable though
[10:58] <pfarmer> majd: do a chmod 644 on the file - it doesn't need to be executable
[10:58] <sudharsh> :P
[10:59] <sudharsh> pfarmer: oh really..i could be rong
[10:59] <sudharsh> majd: try as pfarmer sugested
[10:59] <pfarmer> sudharsh:  only cgi's need to be executable - apache parses the php file, so it only needs to be readable by the apache process
[11:00] <sudharsh> oh ok...i didnt know dat thanks
[11:00] <NickZA> ok I have all the php information displayed on my page now with <?php phpinfo(); ?> so mysql is working ?
[11:00] <sudharsh> NickZA: not necessarily
[11:00] <sudharsh> try connecting to the database
[11:00] <NickZA> hehe ok my question was how do I test is mysql is working
[11:01] <sudharsh> 'mysql' in terminal
[11:01] <NickZA> access denied
[11:01] <sudharsh> sudo mysql
[11:01] <NickZA> ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'nick@localhost' (Using password: NO)
[11:01] <topyli> NickZA: works :)
[11:02] <NickZA> ok I get a welcome message
[11:02] <sudharsh> okie dokie,...its workin
[11:02] <sudharsh> good theres no password by default
[11:02] <HCl> can anyone help me install software suspend 2 in ubuntu? or help me compile the ubuntu kernel sources? where can i find the configuration ubuntu uses for its kernel by default?
[11:02] <NickZA> ok so thats all there, now I just have to figure out how to use it
[11:02] <robotgeek> HCl: /boot/config-blah
[11:03] <HCl> ah.
[11:03] <HCl> thanks.
[11:03] <sudharsh> HCl: try this link
[11:03] <sudharsh> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85064
[11:03] <sudharsh> thers a gr8 HOWTO
[11:03] <sudharsh> NickZA: d/l some thin that uses lamp
[11:03] <sudharsh> like wordpress
[11:04] <sudharsh> and start rokin!
[11:04] <weekang> is there a way to mute/disable my pc speaker from within ubuntu?
[11:04] <robotgeek> sudharsh: if he apt-get's wordpress, it would install a lamp system, lol
[11:05] <majd> i'm jealous
[11:05] <majd> my mysql doesn't work
[11:05] <sudharsh> robotgeek: i thought wordpress aint in the repos
[11:05] <sudharsh> i used the tarball
[11:05] <robotgeek> weekang: yes, type alsamixer and mute your pc speaker
[11:05] <weekang> cool thx robotgeek!
[11:05] <robotgeek> sudharsh: an old version, but you would get all the dependencies :)
[11:05] <sudharsh> majd: see if thers a mysql process goin on
[11:06] <sudharsh> oh yeah...dats y i dont always trust synaptic
[11:07] <sudharsh> majd: is it there?
[11:07] <majd> sudharsh, i put mysql -u root -p password '<newpassword>'
[11:07] <majd> and it gave me a whole bunch of stuff
[11:07] <sudharsh> majd: gr8
[11:07] <sudharsh> u must be in the mysql> prpmt
[11:08] <sudharsh> then
[11:08] <NickZA> should I worry that I cant telnet to localhost:3306 ?
[11:08] <ScreaminIke> hey hey hey
[11:08] <ScreaminIke> :) ihm... got another question...
[11:08] <ScreaminIke> how do i change the OWNER of a set of files using chmod?
[11:08] <sudharsh> use chown
[11:08] <ScreaminIke> chown
[11:09] <sudharsh> chown <user> <file>
[11:09] <sudharsh> chgrp for groups
[11:09] <ScreaminIke> 5
[11:09] <ScreaminIke> sweet
[11:09] <sudharsh> :D
[11:09] <ScreaminIke> chown (user) *
[11:09] <omer_07> i have a problem with Lexmark  X1195 multifunctional printer in linux can you help me?
[11:10] <ScreaminIke> chmod 7766 *
[11:10] <majd> sudharsh, i still can't use mysql though
[11:10] <ScreaminIke> that ROX
[11:10] <pfarmer> ScreaminIke:  you can use "-R" to recursively change the owner of a group of files and the directories beneath it - see "man chown"
[11:10] <sudharsh> majd: try 'top'
[11:11] <sudharsh> and see if the server is running in the first place
[11:11] <pfarmer> majd:  do a "ps -eaf | grep mysql"
[11:11] <majd> this is what i get: http://pastebin.com/502164
[11:12] <majd> pfarmer, majd     16394 15637  0 05:12 pts/0    00:00:00 grep mysql
[11:12] <majd> that's what i get
[11:12] <sudharsh> yay ur mysql is workin
[11:12] <majd> really?
[11:12] <sudharsh> k now its time to do some admin stuff
[11:12] <ScreaminIke> 5
[11:12] <ScreaminIke> that ROX
[11:12] <pfarmer> majd:  mysql isn't running
[11:13] <majd> what?
[11:13] <pfarmer> majd:  Do an "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start"
[11:13] <simak> Seveas is god.
[11:13] <NickZA> i am installing phpmyadmin now, what is its path majd ?
[11:13] <majd> sudo: /etc/init.d/mysql: command not found
[11:13] <sudharsh> NickZA: install it in doc root
[11:14] <majd> just localhost
[11:14] <sudharsh> majd: isnt dat mysqld
[11:14] <pfarmer> majd:  You don't have the mysql server installed
[11:14] <sudharsh> yeah ofcourse....u hav only the client
[11:14] <tkroo> majd, try mysqladmin -u root -p status
[11:15] <pfarmer> majd:  Do a "sudo apt-get install mysql-server"
[11:15] <majd> ooooh
[11:15] <sudharsh> ....:P
[11:15] <ScreaminIke> man... hey, anyone know about gnaughty?
[11:15] <ScreaminIke> 5
[11:15] <omer_07> i have a problem with Lexmark  X1195 multifunctional printer in linux can you help me?
[11:15] <sudharsh> majd: lol
[11:15] <sudharsh> omer_07?: yea
[11:16] <majd> pfarmer, it opened up post-fix configuration
[11:16] <majd> and i'm really scared
[11:16] <majd> :(
[11:16] <majd> local or internet site?
[11:16] <majd> i don't know what it means =\
[11:16] <sudharsh> well..i think local
[11:17] <devwal> Does anyone know of a way to repartition in OSX without reformatting?
[11:17] <pfarmer> majd:  The computer your working on - are you going to be receiving email from the internet on it?
[11:17] <sudharsh> majd save urselvs the trouble and download the mysql from the website
[11:17] <majd> it worked!
[11:17] <sudharsh> i mean the mysql website...its pretty much integrated
[11:17] <pfarmer> majd:  ignore sudhurst - install the package
[11:18] <omer_07> sudharsh: i can see it on usb, i add printer, system recognizes printer but i couldn't get paper from printer.  i can see document in kjobviewer, after -10 second it says aborted. How can i solve this?
[11:18] <majd> it alllllll worke
[11:18] <majd> thank you guys so much
[11:18] <sudharsh> nvr ,mind....../:9
[11:18] <majd> lol
[11:18] <takedown_> hi there, guys someone know how i can do replace like s/something/s0mething/g in openoffice?
[11:19] <sudharsh> omer_07: so u dont get any resonse from the printer side
[11:19] <HCl> can anyone tell me whether ubuntu has a kernel with software suspend build in, maybe in ubuntu dapper...?
[11:19] <omer_07> sudharsh : yes i can get no result
[11:20] <sudharsh> try restartin cups
[11:20] <Ng> HCl: it should be built into breezy's kernel, it just doesn't work very well on most machines
[11:20] <HCl> Ng: hibernate simply states my kernel isn't supporting it..
[11:20] <sudharsh> r u usin kde
[11:20] <sudharsh> HCl: starnge..it works for me
[11:20] <nelposto> yay
[11:20] <HCl> Your kernel does not have any recent Software Suspend 2 support compiled in.
[11:20] <HCl> Please follow the HOWTO linked from http://softwaresuspend.berlios.de/ for
[11:20] <HCl> instructions on how to compile Software Suspend into your kernel.
[11:20] <HCl> hibernate: Aborting.
[11:20] <nelposto> someone else who is having trouble with hibernate
[11:20] <nelposto> i'm not the only one
[11:21] <HCl> i'm using 2.6.12-10-k7
[11:21] <nelposto> HCl you have to compile suspend2 into your kernel
[11:21] <HCl> is it the k7 specialization?
[11:21] <ztrek7> Would someone assist me in troubleshooting gedit, or sudo, don't know which one, I try to run sudo gedit /whatever/textfile and the terminal pretends to launch gedit, but it doesn't, and after a LONG time, I get a popup error, application has quit unexpectedly.
[11:21] <HCl> nelposto: i'm trying, but suspend2 fails to patch cleanly against the ubuntu 2.6.12 source
[11:21] <ajmitch> HCl: please don't paste like that
[11:21] <HCl> ajmitch: sorry
[11:22] <nelposto> HCl: are you using the right suspend2 patch? you need the patch for your version 2.6.12 ..
[11:22] <sudharsh> HCl: this might sound weird.....what bout ur video n all..
[11:22] <HCl> sudharsh: what kernel do you use?
[11:22] <sudharsh> 2.6.15
[11:22] <HCl> software-suspend-2.1.9.9-for-2.6.12.tar.bz2
[11:22] <HCl> thats the one i tried to apply
[11:22] <HCl> uh, is that a dapper kernel or what?
[11:22] <sudharsh> but it worked with the default installation
[11:22] <nelposto> HCl, ok .. no .. have you read the guide on ubuntuforums.org?
[11:23] <HCl> nope.. didn't see one..
[11:23] <sudharsh> HCl: i use the vnills
[11:23] <Psi-Jack> HCl: Hmm. I've seen you somewhere..
[11:23] <sudharsh> *vanilla
[11:23] <nelposto> HCl, that looks like the correct patch .. but http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75443
[11:23] <ajmitch> nelposto: you don't need to patch the kernel for suspend to work, generally
[11:23] <sudharsh> k me bailin off
[11:24] <Ng> well hibernate seems to work in the default breezy kernel here
[11:24] <Psi-Jack> Wow.. Konversation really gets bogged down with a large scrollback buffer, doesn't it?
[11:24] <nelposto> ajmitch, this is for suspend2 .. which is the hibernate that HCl is trying to initiate (check the error message)
[11:24] <Ng> (selected from the logout window)
[11:24] <devwal> Does anyone know of a way to repartition in OSX without reformatting?
[11:24] <nelposto> ajmitch i think that the default hibernation that comes with ubuntu doesn't work very well for many setups (mine ..)
[11:24] <ajmitch> and I don't know why HCl wants to try that - it's not included for some good reasons :)
[11:24] <tkroo> devwal, i want to know that too. i don't think it's possible with HFS format
[11:25] <HCl> ah, great, thanks
[11:25] <Psi-Jack> Wow.. Linux has hibernate support now?
[11:25] <HCl> a special version of suspend2 for the ubuntu source
[11:25] <ajmitch> Psi-Jack: it has for awhile
[11:25] <nelposto> HCl, yeah.. it only goes with 2.6.12 kernel though I think
[11:26] <HCl> yea, thats fine :)
[11:26] <Psi-Jack> ajmitch: Hmmm. I've been out of the loop a few years.
[11:26] <nelposto> I can't understand why the required software suspend files haven't ended up in /proc for me
[11:27] <rixth> !info firefox
[11:27] <ubotu> firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 (breezy), Packaged size: 8268 kB, Installed size: 23932 kB
[11:27] <rixth> Any sign of 1.5 soon?
[11:27] <Psi-Jack> !firefox1.5
[11:27] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:27] <devwal> tkroo: this is a bummer
[11:27] <Psi-Jack> Besides that? Dunno.
[11:27] <devwal> i can't reformat :(
[11:28] <Ng> suspending doesn't work so much, it crashed on resume
[11:28] <manila_kid> elo... ne1 wanna help me? m an ubuntu newbie... i wish to ask some questions
[11:28] <tkroo> devwal, iPartition
[11:28] <manila_kid> how do i connect to the net using a dialup connection?
[11:29] <simak> manila_kid,  what have you tried?
[11:30] <manila_kid> i went to System > Admin > Networking
[11:30] <redguy|work> !tell manila_kid about dialup
[11:31] <Ng> nnot that I need either suspend or hibernate ;)
[11:33] <hawking> I want to change my keyboard but when I do setxkbmap tr it says : "Error loading new keyboard description" what packages should i reinstall?
[11:33] <yosef> how do I know if my swap is active?
[11:33] <ScreaminIke> :) i LOVE gnaughty
[11:33] <ScreaminIke> it's like... porn-get
[11:34] <ScreaminIke> everyone, right now. go download gnaughty.
[11:34] <ScreaminIke> it's a debian package
[11:34] <ScreaminIke> from SF.net
[11:35] <manila_kid> hmm
[11:35] <manila_kid> its hard to understand but i will try
[11:36] <Psi-Jack> Ugh
[11:36] <Psi-Jack> Is there a mirror for seveas's packages?
[11:36] <warty> hello
[11:36] <Psi-Jack> That's NOT down while he's asleep? :-/
[11:36] <Ng> there is
[11:36] <Ng> I'm not sure what it is though
[11:36] <warty> can u tell me
[11:36] <Ng> this is the risk you run when you use third party repositories. they really aren't a good idea
[11:37] <Psi-Jack> Ng: Well, I only need the Win32 codecs.
[11:37] <warty> oki
[11:37] <warty> : )
[11:38] <Ng> Psi-Jack: you can grab the .deb from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs
[11:40] <topyli> does nautilus-sendto via bluetooth work to _anyone_?
[11:40] <ztrek7> Would someone assist me in troubleshooting gedit, or sudo, don't know which one, I try to run sudo gedit /whatever/textfile and the terminal pretends to launch gedit, but it doesn't, and after a LONG time, I get a popup error, application has quit unexpectedly.
[11:40] <ztrek7> i just reinstalled it via synaptic
[11:40] <ztrek7> i think it has something to do with sudo
[11:40] <ztrek7> i can run gedit fine, with no sudo command
[11:40] <ztrek7> anyone, anyone, bueler?bueler?
[11:40] <ztrek7> i am guessing it is a permissions thing
[11:41] <ztrek7> ** (gedit:10782): CRITICAL **: gedit_mdi_set_state: assertion `GEDIT_IS_MDI (mdi)' failed
[11:41] <ztrek7> this gets outputed in terminal after it does not launch
[11:41] <ztrek7> along with a bunch of other crap
[11:41] <ztrek7> can someone just post a hi or something, let me know i am connected alright
[11:41] <ztrek7> a sorry, i don't know about that issue
[11:41] <ztrek7> could be talking to myself
[11:41] <AlfaScorpii> hello
[11:41] <Ng> ztrek7: most gtk applications print out errors like that, it's generally not too serious
[11:42] <docta_v> ztrek7: try running "xhost +" first
[11:42] <AlfaScorpii> i have a problem
[11:42] <Ng> ztrek7: try gksudo gedit
[11:42] <pfarmer> AlfaScorpii:  shoot
[11:42] <AlfaScorpii> with my ubuntu 64 and firefox plugins
[11:42] <AlfaScorpii> do i have to install ubuntu 32?
[11:42] <AlfaScorpii> coz the same problems with other aplications like mplayer
[11:43] <ztrek7> k
[11:43] <Ng> AlfaScorpii: if you want to use things like 32bit media codecs you will need to use the 32bit ubuntu or set up a 32bit chroot and run firefox/mplayer from that
[11:43] <pfarmer> AlfaScorpii:  I would suspect that most of the firefox plugins are 32bit
[11:43] <rastakid> hi there
[11:44] <AlfaScorpii> Ng: thanks
[11:44] <rastakid> I recently installed Ubuntu Breezy Badger and everything is fine except that I'm missing stdlib.h and the other header files from /usr/include. Does anyone know which package to install?
[11:44] <AlfaScorpii> pfarmer: thanks
[11:44] <ztrek7> (gedit:12943): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[11:44] <ztrek7> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[11:44] <AlfaScorpii> ill install unbuntu 32 then
[11:44] <ztrek7> when gksudo gedit
[11:45] <majd> how would i go about restarting apache?
[11:45] <pfarmer> rastakid:  install libc6-dev
[11:45] <AlfaScorpii> Ng: i have other question
[11:45] <pfarmer> majd:  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[11:45] <ztrek7> after jfgi, i found this https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gedit/+bug/3398
[11:46] <AlfaScorpii> Ng: how can i install ubuntu 32 with only kde? dont like gnome
[11:46] <Ng> AlfaScorpii: get kubuntu
[11:46] <rastakid> pfarmer, ah, thank you :)
[11:46] <pfarmer> rastakid:  np
[11:46] <ztrek7> reported, but uncomfirmed, and it looks like conversation is just cut off
[11:46] <AlfaScorpii> Ng: but with get ubuntu ill have gnome too
[11:46] <ztrek7> don't know if it is or not
[11:46] <Ng> AlfaScorpii: so get kubuntu
[11:47] <Ng> it has kde as the default desktop
[11:47] <ztrek7> finally launched gedit though, but did not open file
[11:47] <AlfaScorpii> Ng: so gnome it has to be in u buntu?
[11:47] <majd> thanks pfarmer
[11:47] <pfarmer> majd:  np
[11:48] <AlfaScorpii> Ng: sorry about my english
[11:48] <kieran> hello guys
[11:48] <AlfaScorpii> hello kieran
[11:48] <rixth> !fat32 write
[11:48] <ubotu> rixth: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:49] <Ng> AlfaScorpii: kubuntu still has access to gnome, if that's what you mean? you can install gnome applications if you want to, it just uses kde by default instead
[11:49] <AlfaScorpii> Ng: ok thanks my friend
[11:49] <lockhead> whats the url for the webmin installed on my system, thought it was localhost:10000
[11:50] <ztrek7> lockhead, it is, https://127.0.0.1
[11:50] <lockhead> aaa, ok
[11:50] <ztrek7> default user is root
[11:50] <kieran> hey guys
[11:50] <hawking> what is the name of the package that has keyboard layouts? my setxkbmap command doesn't wokr
[11:50] <kieran> wondering if you guys have the list for the repos
[11:51] <lockhead> hmm, connection refused
[11:53] <lockhead> that's wierd. syntapic tells me i dont have webmin installed. but /usr/local/webmin exists
[11:53] <lockhead> with alot of files in it
[11:53] <hawking> what is the name of the package that has the keyboard-layouts?
[11:56] <pfarmer> lockhead:  webmin doesn't install into /usr/local
[11:56] <Psi-Jack> Speaking of keyboard layouts. Can I finally actually /FULLY/ use my Logitech Coordless Freedom, and all it's multimedia buttons?
[11:56] <muyamba> GUYS I AM NEW TO LINUX AND UBUNTU. I NEED HELP WITH DISPLAY DRIVERS
[11:57] <Psi-Jack> muyamba: STOP SHOUTING! THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO GET HELP!
[11:57] <muyamba> okay!!
[11:57] <kieran> hehe
[11:57] <kieran> anyone know what the link to wiki is for the extra repos?
[11:58] <muyamba> Psi - Jack, Please help man
[11:58] <pfarmer> Psi-Jack:  use xev to find the keycodes for the multimedia keys and then make a ~/.Xmodmap file with some key mappings
[11:58] <Psi-Jack> muyamba: Ask the channel a specific question. You have yet to even do that.
[11:58] <cello_rasp> there seems to be a problem with the network-admin tool - i want to purge all config info as it seems that changing 'locations' or trying to add new ones causes it to crash.
[11:58] <Psi-Jack> pfarmer: By chance, you got a website that explains that, off-hand? I'm a little bit rusty on things.
[11:59] <pfarmer> Psi-Jack:  its pretty simple
[11:59] <pfarmer> Psi-Jack:  run xev and press one of the multimedia keys
[11:59] <pfarmer> Psi-Jack:  look for the keycode output
[12:00] <pfarmer> Psi-Jack:  then in ~/.Xmodmap put something like "keycode 200=F13"
[12:00] <muyamba> OKAY PSI - JACK. My resolution is just 480 x 600 and am a windows guy who wants better resolution
[12:00] <pfarmer> Psi-Jack:  and then the key you pressed to get the keycode 200 will be mapped to F13
[12:00] <Psi-Jack> pfarmer: Problem is. I'm not getting any keycodes.
[12:01] <Psi-Jack> Or at least some aren't.
[12:01] <robotgeek> cello_rasp: better get network-manager, network-admin doesn't work very well
[12:01] <pfarmer> can you pastebin the output for me?
[12:01] <lockhead> pfarmer, err, darn
[12:01] <lockhead> had to do it the old way, using mysql
[12:01] <cello_rasp> robotgeek: so much for ubuntu "stable"
[12:01] <hawking> whenever I want to load a new keyboard layout with setxkbmap I get this error "Error loading new keyboard description" I think my keyboard layout descriptions are corrupt. what is the package that has the keybord layouts? I should reinstall it.. or does anyone has any other idea?
[12:02] <Psi-Jack> pfarmer: Some of them, like the Webcam button, is actually maximizing the xev window. heh
[12:02] <robotgeek> cello_rasp: it's just not very suitable for location switching, network-manager is very very good
[12:02] <pfarmer> Psi-Jack:  then some of the keys are already mapped :)
[12:03] <muyamba> Psi-Jack. Talk to me about improving my resolution from 480 x 600 pls
[12:03] <Psi-Jack> pfarmer: Must be KDE already sorta mapping them. In a nasty way.
[12:03] <Psi-Jack> muyamba: I said ASK THE CHANNEL, not me. :p
[12:03] <robotgeek> Psi-Jack: check System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layout
[12:03] <rixth> Can one convert from FAT32 to ext3 without losing data?
[12:03] <rixth> I guess not
[12:03] <Psi-Jack> rixth: No.
[12:03] <robotgeek> muyamba, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:04] <rixth> Psi-Jack, I have all my data on a fat32 partition and I cannot excute any scripts. Is that normal?
[12:04] <Psi-Jack> rixth: Uhh. Yeah.
[12:04] <cello_rasp> robotgeek: apparently i have it installed already. how do i launch it?
[12:04] <robotgeek> cello_rasp: alt + f2 -> nm-applet --sm-disable
[12:05] <Psi-Jack> rixth: IIRC, vfat partitions are not set to allow executing from, by default.
[12:05] <muyamba> ROBOTGEEK, please am not a pro, so be basic to me
[12:05] <rixth> Psi-Jack, I have monkied with /etc/fstab, but I musn't have set that option. I'll look into it
[12:05] <Psi-Jack> muyamba: He was. He told you exactly what to do.
[12:05] <robotgeek> muyamba: do that in a terminal
[12:05] <Psi-Jack> rixth: kk. :)
[12:06] <muyamba> Robot -  Kindly guide me somehow man otherwise am generally enjoying ma self
[12:06] <cello_rasp> robotgeek: or sudo nm-applet --sm-disable ?
[12:06] <robotgeek> cello_rasp: no sudo
[12:07] <zeth> ciao
[12:07] <cello_rasp> ah. thanks. i dunno what that just did but i hope it was for the better?
[12:07] <robotgeek> cello_rasp: you need the daemon to be running for it to work, sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager (or something similiar) restart
[12:08] <manila_kid> hi! re scanModem, where should I email d ModemData.txt?
[12:08] <robotgeek> cello_rasp: do you see a nice applet in your systray?
[12:09] <manila_kid> its hard to understand but i will try
[12:09] <manila_kid> hi! re scanModem, where should I email d ModemData.txt?
[12:09] <cello_rasp> no.. i couldn't find /etc/init.d/network-manager
[12:09] <cello_rasp> only /etc/init.d/networking
[12:10] <HCl> can anyone tell me whether ubuntu dapper's 2.6.15 has software suspend 2 built in?
[12:10] <muyamba> robot, are you saying that i should type that then save or what man, pls
[12:10] <HCl> and if not, where could i find  a software suspend 2 patch for it?
[12:10] <robotgeek> cello_rasp: okay, do this "sudo apt-get install --reinstall network-manager"
[12:11] <Psi-Jack> muyamba: Please don't continue to troll here.
[12:11] <robotgeek> muyamba: open up a terminal, Accessories -> Terminal
[12:11] <muyamba> okay
[12:12] <muyamba> then
[12:12] <cello_rasp> robotgeek: i don't understand it, according to spm netowrk-manager is installed, yet apt-get said otherwise.
[12:12] <robotgeek> muyamba, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' in a terminal
[12:13] <robotgeek> cello_rasp: it was installed, we just reinstalled it. type "nm-applet --sm-disable" in a terminal, and observe output.
[12:13] <cello_rasp> robotgeek: ok, it's installed via apt-get yet i *still* cannot find it in init.d
[12:13] <Psi-Jack> robotgeek: Heh, hmmm.. Would that actually work in a terminal? Reconfiguring X?
[12:13] <muyamba> Alright, Robot i have typed that sudo statement, then?
[12:14] <robotgeek> cello_rasp: maybe they changed that part, it's okay
[12:14] <devwal> I could use some help figuring out how to install Ubuntu on my powerbook
[12:14] <cello_rasp> robotgeek: BAM! thank you
[12:14] <Psi-Jack> muyamba: FOllow the directions.
[12:14] <robotgeek> Psi-Jack: should work, no reason not to work :)
[12:14] <muyamba> Do i enter after typing the sudo thing?
[12:14] <devwal> If I am installing on an external firewire drive, does there need to be a copy of OSX on the external drive also?
[12:15] <devwal> Or just empty partitions to use?
[12:15] <Psi-Jack> robotgeek: Heh yeah.. :) I just remembered, it's a text-only config tool.
[12:15] <cello_rasp> i love network-manager. network-manager is my friend. why is not network-manager in breezy
[12:15] <robotgeek> muyamba: yes
[12:15] <Psi-Jack> muyamba: If you're going to troll, just leave. Now.
[12:15] <robotgeek> !cli
[12:15] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[12:15] <robotgeek> muyamba: read those links for a basic understanding
[12:15] <robotgeek> Psi-Jack: don't be so critical :)
[12:16] <Psi-Jack> robotgeek: Well.. "Do I hit enter", is a quick sign of someone just trolling.
[12:16] <devwal> What type of partition does Ubuntu need on OSX?
[12:16] <robotgeek> Psi-Jack: oh well :)
[12:16] <devwal> Linux?
[12:16] <muyamba> ok, its asking for password
[12:17] <robotgeek> devwal: OSX uses HFS+, Linux can read (and write) to it. Linux by default uses ext3
[12:17] <devwal> robotgeek: I am confused by this mini tutorial I am reading -- It says to install a copy of OSX onto the new partition
[12:18] <muyamba> ROBOT-GEEK YOU ARE COOL, actually am enjoying da shouts from Psi-Jack
[12:18] <devwal> if the new partition isn't HFS+, then how do I do that
[12:18] <robotgeek> devwal: i've never actually tried what you are attempting to do, let me know if it goes well
[12:18] <muyamba> Robot it has asked me for password, so what next???
[12:18] <cello_rasp> stop trolling muyamba!!!! ;)
[12:18] <robotgeek> muyamba: if you don't type my name correctly, there is a good chance that i might never read your comments
[12:18] <tafsen> Can you use Nautilus to draw the desktop, and still get the OpenBOX menu when you right click on the background?
[12:19] <robotgeek> tafsen: can't have both, apparently
[12:19] <tafsen> robotgeek: So if I won't OpenBOX and icons I need rox?
[12:20] <robotgeek> tafsen: icons..hahaha! yes
[12:20] <muyamba> robotgeek: okay i promise cello_rasp is up in arms too, so waht next about password??
[12:20] <tafsen> robotgeek: what's funny?
[12:20] <devwal> robotgeek could i have your expertise and undivided attention for like, say, 7 minutes when you get a chance?
[12:20] <robotgeek> devwal: not an expert, just a normal user :)
[12:20] <fli7e> whats a good, addicting game for linux that doesn't require a ton of commitment?
[12:20] <cello_rasp> fli7e: stones
[12:20] <robotgeek> tafsen: usually ppl install openbox to get away from all that
[12:21] <nightswim> nethack
[12:21] <fli7e> cello_rasp, gnome-stons?
[12:21] <muyamba> robotgeek: what password do i enter
[12:21] <devwal> BallDroppings
[12:21] <robotgeek> muyamba: your user password
[12:21] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell muyamba about sudo
[12:21] <cello_rasp> fli7e: yeah, for gnome - stones in the KOBAN mode
[12:21] <cello_rasp> oh god, koban.
[12:22] <robotgeek> tafsen: plus, i havent seen icons on desktop for quite sometime now
[12:22] <tafsen> robotgeek: hehe :)
[12:22] <fli7e> cello_rasp, i appear to be pushing crates of tea into red squares
[12:22] <devwal> robotgeek: I have my internal drive with OSX installed on it, and my external drive that is just HFS+ with no OSX system installed on it, the tutorial I am reading says you install OSX on the 2nd partition you make if you are doing it on your internal drive, do you think it's possible to install OSX on top of the data that already exists on my 2nd drive?  I am so freakin' confused
[12:22] <fli7e> cello_rasp, i'll be back in 2 years or so
[12:22] <fli7e> thanks
[12:22] <cello_rasp> fli7e: it gets harder. much harder
[12:22] <hawking> whenever I want to load a new keyboard layout with setxkbmap I get this error "Error loading new keyboard description" I think my keyboard layout descriptions are corrupt. what is the package that has the keybord layouts? I should reinstall it.. or does anyone has any other idea?
[12:22] <muyamba> robotgeek: it says this "debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Dialog
[12:22] <muyamba> debconf: (Dialog frontend requires a screen at least 13 lines tall and 31 columns wide.)
[12:22] <muyamba> debconf: falling back to frontend: Readline
[12:22] <muyamba> Package `xserver-org' is not installed and no info is available.
[12:22] <muyamba> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[12:22] <muyamba> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[12:22] <muyamba> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: xserver-org is not installed"
[12:23] <cello_rasp> can't you handle a puzzle game
[12:23] <robotgeek> muyamba: don't paste in here
[12:23] <fli7e> cello_rasp, no i meant in terms of addictiveness (back in two years, i'll forget i have a life)
[12:23] <muyamba> Robotgeek: what do i do next??
[12:24] <robotgeek> muyamba: press ctrl + alt + f2, log in , and type that command. you can get back to this screen by pressing ctrl + alt + f7
[12:24] <robotgeek> devwal: can u link me to the tutorial?
[12:24] <cello_rasp> fli7e: most games dont come with a free shot of heroin. i'm addicted to puzzle games for the reward of solving them.
[12:25] <devwal> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94007
[12:25] <devwal> I am very confused as to how I set up the partitions on the 2nd drive if there is already data there
[12:25] <devwal> Do I install OSX on top of the existing single partition on the 2nd drive
[12:26] <fli7e> cello_rasp, likewise, but if they get too difficult i find them hard to walk away from. Just one more level.... just one more level....
[12:26] <devwal> or do I create a new partition and install OSX on that and then?
[12:26] <devwal> See my dilema?
[12:27] <robotgeek> devwal: moment to grok
[12:27] <devwal> indeed, take your time
[12:29] <robotgeek> devwal: so, are you trying to just dualboot or to dualboot on USB?
[12:29] <cello_rasp> fli7e: can i recomment alpha-centauri? it is published for linux, and while you have to pay for it , it is a very good strategy game.
[12:29] <devwal> robotgeek, i am trying to boot ubuntu from an external drive
[12:29] <devwal> that is HFS+ with data on it
[12:29] <devwal> i cannot reformat it, so i am going to make a new partition
[12:30] <devwal> but im curious if that external drive needs a copy of OSX also in order for it to boot
[12:30] <devwal> into Ubuntu
[12:30] <wckdkl0wn> what do i need to play avi and wmv videos?
[12:30] <devwal> VLC player
[12:30] <wckdkl0wn> ok
[12:30] <wckdkl0wn> ty
[12:30] <robotgeek> devwal: i know that macs support external booting, there is only one issue i see
[12:31] <fli7e> cello_rasp, nah, although i do like puzzle games, im currently looking for something free and relatively low-key.... just some mindless to keep me busy during class
[12:31] <fli7e> *something mindless
[12:31] <devwal> robotgeek: i just am being very cautious, because the drive i am partitioning has very important stuff on it
[12:31] <devwal> but i just have nowhere to back it up
[12:32] <robotgeek> devwal: hmm, how are you going to repartition? you have to resize your partition or do you have free space on it?
[12:32] <robotgeek> or an empty partition on it?
[12:32] <devwal> i have free space and a copy of iPartition
[12:32] <pakman> Can anyone help me with a problem with the Kdevelop gnome project template?  I'm getting a "missing autogen.sh" error...
[12:33] <robotgeek> devwal: okay, resize and make a nice partition.
[12:33] <wckdkl0wn> i have just installed vlc and it doesnt show the video only the sound
[12:33] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell wckdkl0wn about restrictedformats
[12:34] <devwal> robotgeek: Should this be an HFS partition
[12:34] <devwal> ?
[12:34] <robotgeek> devwal: are you booting apple from that drive? if no, i don't think so. plus, guided partitioning will take care of that
[12:35] <wckdkl0wn> anyone?
[12:35] <devwal> haha I am so freaked out
[12:35] <robotgeek> wckdkl0wn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:35] <devwal> so robotgeek : ubuntu just needs a partition to work with after you start from the CD
[12:36] <lex__> hi all. I have problem compilleing gnome2.12 with jhbuild. It's getting error ImportError: No module named libxml2. But python-xml2 is installed.
[12:36] <robotgeek> devwal: yes. there could be a possible issue
[12:37] <robotgeek> devwal: ubuntu will install and all, you might not be able to boot from it after install cause the initram (or whatever the thing is called) doesn't load scsi modules, hence not loading your hdd, hence not mounting your root ubuntu partition
[12:37] <devwal> hhahaaaaaaa I want this to work so bad
[12:38] <fli7e> what the hell just happened
[12:38] <robotgeek> fli7e: netsplit
[12:38] <fli7e> robotgeek, what?
[12:38] <fli7e> network outage?
[12:38] <robotgeek> fli7e: yup
[12:38] <fli7e> gotcha
[12:39] <robotgeek> devwal: go ahead and ipartition it, i will try to offer more input
[12:39] <devwal> Theoretically, because after installing Ubuntu Linux, I discovered that you can't boot it from a FireWire drive. I did a lot of online research, and that's a pretty consistent message.
[12:39] <devwal> ""
[12:39] <devwal> bummer
[12:40] <robotgeek> devwal: only reason is cause the modules are not in the initramfs
[12:40] <devwal> Such a bummer
[12:40] <devwal> Such a gigantic bummer
[12:40] <devwal> I want to run Ubuntu so bad
[12:40] <robotgeek> devwal: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811 rejoice
[12:41] <StokesTheorem> ...
[12:41] <StokesTheorem> Wow, that is ironic.
[12:41] <fli7e> what is that command that is like top
[12:41] <StokesTheorem> devwal - you CAN do it from a FireWire.
[12:41] <fli7e> for taking a snapshot of running processes
[12:42] <robotgeek> devwal: so, it's possible, has been done, just needs a bit of work from your side :)
[12:42] <devwal> I think I know how to do it
[12:42] <dproffessa> hell
[12:42] <devwal> there is an option in startup disk that lets you pick the target drive
[12:42] <devwal> when you restart
[12:43] <fli7e> nevermind, the command is ps
[12:43] <yosef> how do i get firefox 1.5?
[12:43] <robotgeek> devwal: the issue is not with OS X, but with linux
[12:43] <robotgeek> !firefox1.5
[12:43] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:43] <brenner> fli7e: 'ps'?
[12:43] <fli7e> in terminal "ps"
[12:43] <fli7e> ps - report a snapshot of the current processes.
[12:44] <yosef> !firefox1.5
[12:44] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:44] <brenner> yeah, sorry...that was my answer...too late :)
[12:44] <Ng> sucker ;)
[12:44] <StokesTheorem> I probably just walked into something...  but devwal, are you contemplating using an external via FireWire?
[12:44] <devwal> they don'
[12:44] <devwal> they don't look so hot
[12:44] <devwal> yes Str
[12:44] <StokesTheorem> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=115164
[12:45] <devwal> StokesTheorem* excuse me
[12:45] <LoPMX> yes they do
[12:45] <StokesTheorem> I've been trying to build a boot disk for my USB external, but I've turned up a lot of research simultaniously regarding FireWire.
[12:45] <robotgeek> StokesTheorem: he has a mac, he can boot directly from a firewire drive
[12:45] <StokesTheorem> There are a bunch of links to mac-specific external linux sites.
[12:45] <StokesTheorem> Oh, okay, nevermind.
[12:46] <robotgeek> StokesTheorem: does the initram for ubuntu have firewire modules?
[12:46] <cello_rasp> ghm
[12:46] <fli7e> um, ive just noticed that whenever i right click a link in irc here and select "open in web browser" it opens in terminal text-based browser (w3m) instead of firefox... how do i switch it back?
[12:47] <robotgeek> devwal: i would suggest you find out the name of the firewire modules are needed by using a live cd
[12:47] <devwal> i have a live cd and an install made up
[12:47] <devwal> should i restart with the live CD?
[12:47] <devwal> and hop back in here?
[12:48] <devwal> ;)
[12:48] <StokesTheorem> I actually came in here for help with a similar matter.  If you have a chance to stick around after you've finished helping devwal, I'd appreciate it.
[12:48] <robotgeek> StokesTheorem: i'm no expert here, i'm just googling :)
[12:48] <devwal> heh, we're all confused Stokes
[12:48] <devwal> welcome to the party
[12:48] <StokesTheorem> *lol*
[12:48] <devwal> I'm kind of losing it here
[12:48] <devwal> The tutorials are not enough info for me
[12:48] <StokesTheorem> Darnit, that is what I made that long-arse post up for.  At this point I have like five hours experience using Linux and I'm trying to do something crazy!
[12:49] <devwal> someone needs to write one for people who are repartitioning and using an external firewire drive :)
[12:49] <brenner> fli7e: maybe you have w3m as your default browser
[12:49] <StokesTheorem> I have been focusing on making a SUB, but like I said, there are some decent links off that site.
[12:49] <fli7e> brenner, where is that set
[12:49] <robotgeek> devwal: step 1 -> Make that partition; step 2 -> boot using Live cd and not down modules ; step 3 -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811 (with firewire changes)
[12:49] <robotgeek> devwal: you make one :)
[12:50] <brenner> fli7e: sys > prefs > preferred apps
[12:50] <weekang> btw
[12:50] <StokesTheorem> God knows I stumbled across tons and tons of FireWire external discussions.  I kind of get the feeling that it is a little different from USB/non-macs.
[12:50] <weekang> does anyone know if grub can be uninstalled from the MBR?
[12:50] <robotgeek> weekang: getting rid of ubuntu, huh?
[12:50] <s_spiff>  ! FireWire
[12:50] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, s_spiff
[12:50] <s_spiff> !Firewire
[12:50] <ubotu> s_spiff: I give up, what is it?
[12:50] <brenner> weekang: do you have an xp cd handy?
[12:50] <s_spiff> crap..
[12:51] <fli7e> brenner, it was set to custom, but still referenced firefox. changing to firefox didnt solve the problem
[12:51] <robotgeek> weekang: google for fixmbr
[12:51] <brenner> fli7e: dunno.  ask in #xchat.  the folks in there are cool
[12:51] <fli7e> good idea
[12:52] <robotgeek> StokesTheorem: since macs allows booting from firewire, half the problem is solved
[12:52] <devwal> robotgeek: a Linux partition?
[12:52] <weekang> does anyone know if grub can be uninstalled from the MBR?
[12:52] <devwal> Will it repartition the partition space that I am making?
[12:53] <brenner> weekang: do you have an xp cd handy?
[12:53] <robotgeek> devwal: when you repartition your drive, just format the other parition as freespace
[12:53] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm.. Does K/ubuntu not install ide-scsi for use for cdrecord, by default?
[12:54] <robotgeek> devwal: "guided partitioning" during install will take care of all the details for you, i guess
[12:54] <StokesTheorem> robotgeek:  Kind of...  But there is value in being able to boot a FireWire external on non-macs too.
[12:54] <weekang> brenner: is that necessary? the system has no cd-rom
[12:54] <robotgeek> StokesTheorem: true, no harm in finding out. usb hdd's are cheaper than firewire :)
[12:55] <kerahet> hi,friends,how can i install softwares under vmware on ubuntu?
[12:56] <weekang> kerahet: try qemu instead of vmware
[12:56] <weekang> it's free
[12:56] <brenner> weekang: well i'm not sure if there's other methods besides reinstalling xp, but the usual one is to run 'fixmbr' as robotgeek suggested after you boot into rescue mode off an xp cd
[12:56] <Blippe> kerahet as you would if you didn't emulate
[12:56] <weekang> brenner: u mean i can't just use grub to uninstall itself gracefully?
[12:56] <gurek> I've tried to install amule on my ubuntu. After 'apt-get install amule' instalation stopped with error: Libwxgtk is required. I'm unable to download libwxgth 'cause it's not compatible with ubuntu at all. So iS there any way to uninstall not complete amule packets? When I try to run apt-get , i get just error on error in dependencies, and I can't do anything. Is there any way to fix it?
[12:56] <kerahet> i installed wmvare
[12:56] <weekang> brenner: thanks
[12:56] <devwal> heh new problem: how do i repartition it so i dont lose data
[12:56] <tafsen> Can I make a shortcut in gnome with the windowsbutton + (a random button) show my desktop?
[12:57] <robotgeek> tafsen: sure, Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[12:57] <devwal> uhh i feel so bad for you robotgeek -- putting up with me
[12:57] <tafsen> robotgeek: what do I type in the terminal to start that?
[12:57] <Ng> gurek: you could try "sudo dpkg -r amule"
[12:57] <robotgeek> tafsen: no terminal, all gui.
[12:57] <weekang> robotgeek: did u send me some advice just now? didn't c it cos of netsplit
[12:58] <weekang> robotgeek: thx anyway
[12:58] <robotgeek> weekang: i said, google for fixmbr
[12:58] <weekang> robotgeek: ok thx
[12:58] <kerahet> ok,where can i find softwares for vmware ubuntu
[12:58] <tafsen> yeah, but I need the command to start it from the terminal, because i don't have the menu avaible ;)
[12:58] <brenner> weekang: you can apparently use a floppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:58] <robotgeek> tafsen: gnome-panel, maybe?
[12:58] <brenner> weekang: actually, hang on.
[12:59] <brenner> weekang: sorry.  got confused. :)
[12:59] <hawking> Does anyone know what package creates /etc/X11/xkb?
[12:59] <lexhider> is azureus in the archives???
[12:59] <brenner> weekang: that's for restoring, not uninstalling
[01:00] <Blippe> kerahet you need a so called "virtual machine" http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/vm/
[01:00] <pfarmer> hawking:  try xkeyboard-config
[01:00] <StokesTheorem> robotgeek:  I'm still on my quest to make this boot disk, and stumbled across another option.  Can you tell me whether following this (brief) is suicide for a newbie?
[01:00] <Blippe> ubotu tell lexhider about azureus
[01:00] <hawking> pfermer :already did
[01:00] <Blippe> !ubotu tell lexhider about azureus
[01:00] <tafsen> robotgeek: gnome-panel is the bar you see at the top and the bottom of the screen :)
[01:00] <kerahet> is there a place where i can download programs for ubuntu
[01:01] <pfarmer> hawking:  so whats the problem?
[01:01] <pfarmer> hawking:  xkeyboard-config puts files in /etc/X11/xkb
[01:01] <hawking> pfarmer :Iwant to change the keyboard layout with setxkbmap and Iget this error : Error loading new keyboard description
[01:01] <hawking> Iam lost
[01:01] <hawking> Itried many things doesn'T work
[01:02] <kerahet> is there a place where i can download programs for ubuntu,a fev links
[01:02] <hawking> any ideas pfarmer?
[01:02] <robotgeek> tafsen: just type gnome-keybinding-properties
[01:02] <Blippe> kerahet you use synaptic in ubuntu
[01:03] <robotgeek> StokesTheorem: ask away
[01:03] <Blippe> !ubotu tell kerahet about synaptic
[01:03] <Blippe> !ubotu tell kerahet about repos
[01:03] <kerahet> ok,thx
[01:04] <pfarmer> hawking: do the files exist?
[01:04] <Blippe> !ubotu tell kerahet about easysource
[01:04] <hawking> pfarmer yeah there are some files in /etc/X11/xkb
[01:04] <StokesTheorem> robotgeek:  Is http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t269145.html suicide for a newbie?  Specifically, can I get away with not having to compile anything (specifically a kernel).
[01:04] <s_spiff>  /nick s_spiff{AWAY}
[01:04] <pfarmer> hawking: can you pastebin the full command and full output
[01:05] <eth42> does anyone know what "R/W multiple sector transfer" in "hdparm -I /dev/hda" means?
[01:05] <hawking> pfarmer -->setxkbmap tr  Error loading new keyboard description that's it
[01:06] <Set> !ubouto tell #ubuntu about rpm
[01:06] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Set
[01:06] <hawking> !ubotu tell thespiritoftal about xlibs
[01:07] <robotgeek> StokesTheorem: interesting, lemme grok
[01:08] <skeff> I get an error "libawt.so: libXp.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when trying to install a program. But in /usr/lib, behold! /usr/lib/libXp.so.6 -> libXp.so.6.2.1            Why is there a problem finding it?
[01:09] <Set> !ubouto tell #ubuntu about deb
[01:09] <ubotu> Set: Are you on ritalin?
[01:09] <StokesTheorem> robotgeek:  I'm gonna try working on this a little for the moment.  Where would I find these "modules"?
[01:09] <Raskall> is it safe to upgrade from breezy to dapper?
[01:09] <pfarmer> hawking: have you tried setting the keyboard map with "System -> Preferences -> Keyboard"
[01:10] <kerahet> help,i can not install wmvare tools
[01:10] <robotgeek> Raskall: it's stable, but if you *need* that machine, stay away
[01:10] <devwal> robotgeek: here goes nothing
[01:10] <Raskall> robotgeek: :) it's just my private laptop.
[01:10] <devwal> wish me luck
[01:10] <pfarmer> hawking: and is tr the correct name?
[01:10] <StokesTheorem> devwal:  Good Luck.
[01:11] <robotgeek> devwal: good luck, and *document* everything :)
[01:11] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ! beep Media Player
[01:11] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, s_spiff{AWAY}
[01:11] <Raskall> robotgeek: so I'll go for it. :)
[01:11] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ! beep
[01:11] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, s_spiff{AWAY}
[01:11] <robotgeek> Raskall: yes, i did too
[01:11] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ! BMP
[01:11] <ubotu> from memory, bmp is a guide to Beep Media Player and Plugins, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeepMediaPlayer
[01:11] <StokesTheorem> Remember, if all else fails violence typically does the trick in fixing any sort of technical problem.,
[01:12] <hawking> pfarmer :yes
[01:12] <Raskall> robotgeek: I have always installed the next release a couple of months early before. Can't do any worse now, can I? :)
[01:12] <pfarmer> hawking: ok so do you have /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/tr ?
[01:12] <hawking> lemme see
[01:13] <robotgeek> StokesTheorem: you basically following a procedure like a pxe-install, you could even manage with a floppy i think
[01:13] <rendi> help
[01:13] <robotgeek> Raskall: :)
[01:13] <rendi> help
[01:13] <rendi> # /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[01:13] <rendi> Starting apache 2.0 web server...apache2: bad user name www-data
[01:13] <rendi>  failed!
[01:13] <hawking> pfarmer:Id
[01:13] <hawking> pfarmer:Ido
[01:13] <robotgeek> rendi: don't paste in here
[01:13] <StokesTheorem> Raskall: I'm very new, so that could be a part of it, but I initially tried the Dapper Drake flight CD 2.  I turned it on after a few days and let it "upgrade", at which point it froze whenever trying to go into gnome.
[01:13] <Raskall> robotgeek: but I will wait upgrading my server. :) my 50+ users might be angry if things break (even though they don't pay anything for using it)
[01:13] <rendi> can help me
[01:13] <rendi> i have del www-data
[01:13] <rendi> and i wann it back
[01:13] <rotem> can someone help me with mysql i keep getting Access denied for user: 'mysql@localhost'
[01:14] <pfarmer> hawking: then setxkbmap tr should work ok
[01:14] <hawking> pfarmer :it DOESN'T
[01:14] <robotgeek> rendi: sudo apt-get install --reinstall apache2
[01:14] <StokesTheorem> robotgeek:  I have no idea what a pxe-install is.  I take it what you just said is a good thing, though.
[01:15] <robotgeek> StokesTheorem: basically for a netboot, you install a linux kernel with your ethernet card drivers, boot of it and retrieve the packages from the network. havent gotten it to work yet :)
[01:16] <StokesTheorem> robotgeek:  *lol*  There are already a ton of generic pre-made boot disks to do precisely that.
[01:17] <StokesTheorem> robotgeek:  Right now I've managed to mount initrd, and am able to "look ardound" and tweak things.  I''m supposed to "replace the modules".  Any suggestions?
[01:17] <pfarmer> hawking: can you set the keymap to gb ok? or to us ok?
[01:18] <rendi> wooooooooooooot
[01:18] <rendi> still wrong
[01:18] <rendi> kapolri:/home/admin# /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[01:18] <rendi> Starting apache 2.0 web server...apache2: bad user name www-data
[01:18] <rendi>  failed!
[01:19] <Xenguy> pf
[01:19] <rendi> my boss will kill me
[01:19] <Xenguy> sorry
[01:19] <Raskall> StokesTheorem: have gotten gnome to work again?
[01:20] <pfarmer> hawking: did you upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10?
[01:20] <pfarmer> hawking: or did you install 5.10 fresh?
[01:20] <StokesTheorem> Raskall:  Using Breezy now.  :)
[01:20] <tafsen> Is there a way that I can get php files to be displayed at the same way as an html file?
[01:20] <Steve^> woo, another live cd to repartition my drive, think I'll use a CD-RW this time
[01:20] <StokesTheorem> Raskall:  Barely had had a chance to play when I had to reinstall, so nothing lost.
[01:21] <Raskall> StokesTheorem: ok.. :) I cross my fingers that it will work now.
[01:21] <Raskall> ahh.. I just love my 4 mbit dsl line. :)
[01:22] <StokesTheorem> Raskall:  Maybe just create another partition for it and then share the swap file?
[01:22] <|nee-chan|> ?
[01:22] <|nee-chan|> ?
[01:22] <StokesTheorem> Raskall:  Maybe even share the /home partition, although no doubt the Ubuntu gods just shook their fists at me.
[01:23] <Raskall> StokesTheorem: nah.. I already have 3 operating systems installed. I am competent enough to get things working again. (been using linux since -93)
[01:24] <drcode> any one know if there is VOD server in linux and windows from Open SOurce?
[01:24] <Raskall> StokesTheorem: I am not afraid of my data when doing "apt-get upgrade". I'm not installing from cd.
[01:24] <brenner> what version of xchat does breezy ship with?
[01:24] <Raskall> StokesTheorem: just replace "breezy" with "dapper" in /etc/apt/sources.list and "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade"
[01:25] <topyli> Raskall: worst that can happen is different versions of apps will barf, having to share incompatible config files
[01:26] <robotgeek> Raskall: dist-upgrade
[01:26] <Raskall> topyli: I know. :) Have done this with both hoary and breezy before. The original install on this laptop was actually a warty :)
[01:27] <devwal> robotgeek: It is not recognizing my live cd for some reason
[01:27] <Guard] [an> hi
[01:27] <robotgeek> devwal: hmm, maybe reburn at lower speeds?
[01:28] <Raskall> robotgeek: of course.. just a typo. :)
[01:28] <devwal> ya, trying burning it in a different app
[01:28] <devwal> 6:30am
[01:28] <robotgeek> devwal: verify the md5sum
[01:28] <devwal> typical
[01:28] <robotgeek> devwal: damn, same timezone!
[01:28] <devwal> WI
[01:28] <devwal> you?
[01:28] <nalioth> ubotu: tell devwal about verify
[01:28] <nalioth> robotgeek: he's freeezin
[01:29] <robotgeek> Raskall: heh :)
[01:29] <robotgeek> devwal: TX
[01:29] <devwal> everything is big there
[01:29] <devwal> :)
[01:29] <devwal> I drive a Honda Civic -- just about everything in TX would run me over
[01:30] <robotgeek> devwal: i think we are leaning towards offtopic talk :)
[01:30] <topyli> devwal: yeah, their civics would crash your civic
[01:30] <Guard] [an> i updated the system, now libcairo is marked as to be upgraded and xchat and sylpheed have been removed
[01:30] <devwal> Well my Honda Civic is much like Ubuntu in that..
[01:30] <devwal> ;)
[01:30] <Guard] [an> anyone having problems with libcairo ???
[01:31] <KeithWeisshar> how many software packages does ubuntu include?
[01:31] <nalioth> devwal: you're welcome to discuss Texas and civics (and civets) in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:31] <KeithWeisshar> debian incluses 8250
[01:31] <devwal> nalioth: was kidding, im done
[01:32] <robotgeek> KeithWeisshar: i thought the count was close to 17000?
[01:32] <Guard] [an> now if i want to install xchat back it complains: "depends: libcairo2(>=1.0.2-2) but 1.0.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed depends: libssl0.9.8 (>=0.9.8a1) but is not installable
[01:32] <Guard] [an> etc...
[01:32] <robotgeek> Guard] [an: did you install any packages from debian?
[01:32] <Guard] [an> any idea please ?
[01:33] <KeithWeisshar> dues ubuntu have more or fewer packages than debian?
[01:33] <ogra> KeithWeisshar, more
[01:34] <ogra> KeithWeisshar, its over 17000 currently
[01:35] <sorsap> KeithWeisshar: but as far as i understand, because ubuntu uses much of debian packages, and many of those are not compliant with ubuntu you can't really compare the amount
[01:36] <ogra> sorsap, sure you can ... we sync all available debian packages from debian ... additionally all the stuff from apt-get.org and some other sources like wine from winehq etc
[01:36] <ogra> so it *must* be slightly more packages ...
[01:36] <Ng> Guard] [an: at a guess I'd say something is wrong with your apt sources - xchat in breezy depends on libssl 0.9.7 and libcairo2 1.0.0
[01:36] <Belutz> hi ogra, are you joining the ubuntu asian tours?
[01:37] <ogra> Belutz, heh, nope, i have to prepare for feature freeze ...
[01:37] <Belutz> ogra, ah i see
[01:38] <ogra> Belutz, mark does it mostly alone iirc ...
[01:38] <eyedol59> hello to everyone!
[01:39] <eyedol59> i am having problems in nautilus when i try to burn a cd, could anybody help me please?
[01:40] <Belutz> ogra, i see, i heard there will be 6 people coming to jakarta
[01:40] <nalioth> eyedol59: use k3b (it's worth the kde libs it depends on)
[01:40] <ogra> Belutz, ah, i'm not involved in the planning ...
[01:40] <ogra> eyedol59, whats your problem ?
[01:41] <Belutz> ogra, ah i see, i hope they also discuss about edubuntu
[01:42] <eyedol59> when i give nautilus the order to burn the cd he says to me: "File image creation failed"
[01:42] <rambo3> !java
[01:42] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:42] <ogra> Belutz, they surely will talk about it ... but i think its not the main focus .... ask a lot of questions about edubuntu and i'll have to be there next time ;)
[01:42] <Belutz> ogra, ok :)
[01:43] <eyedol59> when i give nautilus the order to burn the cd he says to me: "File image creation failed"o
[01:43] <ogra> eyedol59, check that you have enough temp space to actually build an iso
[01:43] <robotgeek_zzz> devwal: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29837
[01:43] <eyedol59> temp space?
[01:44] <ogra> eyedol59, yes, the image is created in /tmp before it gets written
[01:44] <ogra> eyedol59, you can override this for nautilus-cd-burner in the gconf-editor
[01:45] <eyedol59> mm , so you are sugesting that because my /temp is full, the nautilus is unable to bur the cd, ok i will try right know....
[01:46] <MERT> #debian.tr
[01:46] <linzhizhao> lumaqqubuntu.org.cnlumaqq
[01:46] <xukun> if I try to listen internet radio then I get "Totem could not play 'fd://0'. There is no plugin to handle this movie." Any idea?
[01:46] <LoRe> is there an equivalent to debian-testing in ubuntu?
[01:46] <_jason> xukun, try mplayer or vlc instead
[01:46] <ogra> LoRe, nope
[01:47] <ogra> LoRe, would make no sense with qa 6month release cycle to additionally have testing
[01:47] <onkarshinde> xukun: try streamtuner
[01:47] <ogra> s/qa/a/
[01:47] <xukun> thanks guys
[01:47] <j2daosh> ok
[01:48] <j2daosh> i got a probelm... well several
[01:48] <j2daosh> one my sound aint working no more... 2 i dont have the ability to sudo
[01:48] <j2daosh> 3 i cant get into the user/groups to change my permissions
[01:48] <eyedol59> i have already deleted the /tmp but he stills gives me the same error, any ideas?
[01:49] <_jason> j2daosh, let's try the sudo problem.  What happens when you try to sudo?
[01:49] <j2daosh> i can do a su though.... and my other account has sound
[01:49] <j2daosh> nothing
[01:49] <j2daosh> gives me a prompt like i just hit enter on a blank line
[01:49] <_jason> j2daosh, is this the first account you created (during install)
[01:49] <j2daosh> yes
[01:49] <xukun> onkarshinde, streamtuner is already installed
[01:50] <onkarshinde> what station are you trying to play?
[01:50] <j2daosh> i think the sound has something to do with timidy maybe... but i cant get into my groups and everything to figure it out
[01:50] <j2daosh> lemme check what groups im in
[01:50] <j2daosh> im in the sudo group
[01:50] <j2daosh> ...
[01:50] <j2daosh> im gonna remove myself from all the groups
[01:51] <xukun> www.nederland.fm and when I go to this website then it displays that error
[01:51] <eyedol59> i am having problems in nautilus when i try to burn a cd, could anybody help me please?
[01:51] <tafsen> what's the difrence from 586 and 686?
[01:51] <xukun> onkarshinde, even before I can choose one
[01:51] <j2daosh> ha
[01:51] <j2daosh> figured that one out
[01:52] <j2daosh> needed to add myself to admin group because i got deleted out of there somehow
[01:52] <_jason> j2daosh, yeah, are you in audio group?
[01:52] <j2daosh> ok... next lets do the sound thing...?
[01:52] <j2daosh> nope
[01:52] <j2daosh> lol
[01:52] <onkarshinde> xukun: it seems it provides streams in some proprietry format
[01:52] <j2daosh> lemme add
[01:52] <_jason> j2daosh, lol easy :)
[01:52] <_jason> (hopefully)
[01:52] <j2daosh> nope
[01:52] <j2daosh> no device found
[01:52] <j2daosh> maybe i have to restart before that change takes affect
[01:53] <_jason> j2daosh, maybe, give it a try
[01:53] <eyedol59> i am having problems in nautilus when i try to burn a cd, could anybody help me please?
[01:54] <j2daosh> ok... brb
[01:55] <umberto> ciao
[01:55] <umberto> c'e nessuno
[01:55] <_jason> umberto, italiano?
[01:55] <eyedol59> i am having trouble burning a cd with nautilus, could anybody help me please?
[01:55] <kchandran> lk;lk;lkkl
[01:55] <kchandran> kijlkijkljk
[01:55] <kchandran> ioioiio
[01:56] <_jason> !it
[01:56] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:56] <kchandran> testing
[01:57] <ulaas> !tr
[01:57] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, ulaas
[01:57] <ELGIMIKERO> s
[01:58] <lowman62> g'mornin/aft'noon/g'evenin tech support room :)
[01:58] <_jason> ulaas, are you able to create a message informing users of the #ubuntu.tr channel in Turkish?
[01:59] <ulaas> _jason, no. and i only wanted to check if someone did.
[02:00] <_jason> ubotu, tr is <reply> /j #ubuntu.tr
[02:00] <ubotu> _jason: okay
[02:00] <_jason> ulaas, better than nothing I guess
[02:00] <ulaas> #ubuntu.tr
[02:01] <ulaas> _jason, thats nice! thanx
[02:01] <_jason> ulaas, do you speak turkish?
[02:01] <ulaas> _jason, well sure.
[02:03] <_jason> ulaas, You can write a short sentence in Turkish informing people that they can get help in Turkish in #ubuntu.tr and I'll add it to ubotu if you want :)
[02:04] <ulaas> _jason, ok here it goes.
[02:04] <eyedol59> i am having trouble burning a cd with nautilus, could anybody help me please?
[02:04] <olicat> we've got a main network here which is on 192.168.101.*, and a smaller testing one on 10.10.10.* - any ideas how i can get to the 10.* network from the other one?
[02:05] <FaithX> olicat: route
[02:05] <olicat> FaithX, how does that wokr?
[02:05] <j2daosh> well it worked jason lol
[02:06] <FaithX> do you have a linux box with a nic on both nets?
[02:06] <_jason> j2daosh, great
[02:06] <j2daosh> that was easy fixes :) and in the process i became a sudoer and not dont need to sudo :)
[02:06] <cleo> whats the best way to encrypt a whole partition?
[02:06] <j2daosh> nevermind... still gotta sudo
[02:06] <j2daosh> :(
[02:06] <j2daosh> oh well
[02:06] <ulaas> _jason, "Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu.tr hizmetinizde."
[02:07] <_jason> ubotu, no tr is <reply> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu.tr hizmetinizde.
[02:07] <ubotu> okay, _jason
[02:07] <_jason> !tr
[02:07] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu.tr hizmetinizde.
[02:07] <FaithX> olicat: do you have a linux box with a nic on both nets?
[02:07] <ulaas> works, great
[02:07] <_jason> ulaas, thanks
[02:07] <Micksa> hi, is there a way to get an ubuntu box to automaticall suspend if the battery charge goes below a certain level?
[02:08] <KeithWeisshar> is it worth the time to create a new ubuntu dvd when a new version of ubuntu is released
[02:08] <KeithWeisshar> download
[02:08] <ulaas> _jason, thanx to you.
[02:08] <olicat> FaithX, no, the nic goes to another machine
[02:08] <_jason> KeithWeisshar, no, just upgrade with apt-get
[02:08] <FaithX> olicat: you need a router between both networks
[02:09] <Belutz> where's the file setting for network profile created by network-admin?
[02:09] <olicat> i see thanks
[02:09] <j2daosh> where can i get new "themes"?
[02:09] <lowman62> does anyone know where I can get the Gecko SDK? opera is a pain
[02:09] <_jason> KeithWeisshar, are you considering upgrading to breezy, or were you just looking for some info?
[02:10] <j2daosh> whats up jenda
[02:10] <brenner> j2daosh: gnome-look.org
[02:10] <jenda> hey j2daosh...
[02:10] <j2daosh> hows it going ole buddy ole pal
[02:10] <wckdkl0wn> does ubuntu come with java already installed?? i am thinkin about setting it up on my moms and she plays a lot on pogo
[02:11] <j2daosh> ahh... how very true
[02:11] <_jason> ubotu, tell j2daosh about themes
[02:11] <j2daosh> so i can get themes from gnome-look eh?
[02:11] <brenner> wckdkl0wn: no
[02:11] <_jason> ubotu, tell wckdkl0wn about java
[02:13] <wckdkl0wn> why does everyone always wanna redirect u to some place else instead of just a straight answer?
[02:13] <wckdkl0wn> brenner, ty
[02:14] <_jason> wckdkl0wn, I was jsut letting you know where you can get java.  Makes no sense to repeat the same info over and over :)
[02:15] <wckdkl0wn> _jason, i havent installed the os yet lol jsut wanted to find out yes or no before i installed
[02:15] <KeithWeisshar> why am i only getting 150kb/sec when downloading the ubuntu dvd, i'm connected at 3000kbps with dsl
[02:15] <KeithWeisshar> i'm using bittorrent 4.22
[02:15] <_jason> wckdkl0wn, ah ok
[02:15] <wckdkl0wn> 3000kps with dsl??
[02:15] <brenner> wckdkl0wn: i was just being lazy actually. :P  and _jason had your best intentions at heart
[02:16] <wckdkl0wn> yea i know but i just seem to get a lot of redirects thats all
[02:16] <wckdkl0wn> and that one just tipped me over the edge so i had to say something about it
[02:16] <nalioth_zZz> wckdkl0wn: tje
[02:16] <nalioth_zZz> wckdkl0wn: the 'redirects' are to wiki articles to help you
[02:17] <wckdkl0wn> nvm
[02:17] <wckdkl0wn> lol
[02:17] <j2daosh> ok i installed a theme but its not showing up in my themes manager... why?
[02:17] <day_cho> woi
[02:18] <_jason> j2daosh, some themes you download actually contain multiple files inside (the actual theme, some icons, some info).  Can you check if that's the case for your theme?
[02:18] <j2daosh> it is
[02:18] <brenner> j2daosh: was it a true theme?  or just a window border etc.
[02:18] <muzik> heyas
[02:18] <j2daosh> how do i get it to install and apply all those icons/backgrounds/ etc?
[02:19] <muzik> whats the easiest way to get avidemux installed on ubuntu??
[02:19] <j2daosh> mediacity theme
[02:19] <rob^^^> vorlon: do you have the skinny on where php5-mcrypt got voted off the island?
[02:19] <j2daosh> metacity theme
[02:19] <_jason> j2daosh, Can you link to the theme?
[02:19] <muzik> whats the easiest way to get avidemux installed on ubuntu??
[02:20] <brenner> j2daosh: does it show up in theme details?
[02:20] <j2daosh> nope... but it installed to the theme folder
[02:20] <KeithWeisshar> why does the dvd take a really long time to download
[02:21] <KeithWeisshar> it's 3.6gb
[02:21] <KeithWeisshar> is it more than just combined live and install cd
[02:21] <_jason> j2daosh, try dragging the file directly into the "theme details" window
[02:21] <muzik> whats that program that installs all codecs and java and stuff?
[02:22] <muzik> sounds like avidemux
[02:22] <day_cho> sepi
[02:22] <_jason> !easyubuntu
[02:22] <ubotu> I guess easyubuntu is a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntu
[02:22] <j2daosh> Windows Border Theme Windows Media Center correctly installed.
[02:22] <j2daosh> You can select it in the theme details.
[02:22] <j2daosh> but it wont let me see it in there
[02:23] <j2daosh> oh man... i gotta drag everything to it?
[02:23] <yacc> Just wondering, what is the recommended filesystem type for TB-sized filesystems?
[02:23] <j2daosh> what kinda crap is that?!
[02:23] <_jason> j2daosh, let me try it on mine.  Could always be the theme.  Do you have a link to the page?
[02:23] <Friar> Hi... how to I make Wan0 activate at boot time?
[02:24] <_jason> j2daosh, what do you mean 'everything'?  It's just the file you download.  Same thing as clicking install and then finding it.
[02:24] <brenner> j2daosh: no.  'install theme' button should work fine...so it doesn't show up in theme details > window border tab?
[02:24] <j2daosh> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/download.php?content=33585&id=1
[02:24] <j2daosh> nope...
[02:24] <j2daosh> when i click install it installs... then it tells me to select from details
[02:24] <j2daosh> but its not in my details
[02:24] <j2daosh> i have to actually go to a folder
[02:24] <j2daosh> but i get no options for it in the theme manager
[02:25] <brenner> j2daosh: do you have a url for the details page?
[02:25] <j2daosh> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=33585
[02:27] <brenner> j2daosh: you shouldn't need to uncompress
[02:27] <j2daosh> i didn't... i installed the tar
[02:27] <j2daosh> brb gotta take son to school
[02:28] <_jason> j2daosh, it just installed fine for me.  All I did was drag it straight into theme preferences.  It shows up in theme details-> window border like brenner was saying
[02:28] <VR^> hey all, how do I install a mouse (cursor) theme?
[02:29] <Katie^> I got my new phone yesterday, how do I install the software? Will wine work?
[02:30] <brenner> VR^: i'm guessing here.... sys > pref > mouse > cursor ... then drag and drop the theme archive
[02:30] <VR^> brenner: tried that, didn't work
[02:30] <xiaogil> When I try the address localhost or ubuntu in firefox, it opens http://p2p.cs.mu.oz.au/software/Localhost/ instead of my local site, why ? How to repair that ?
[02:32] <Katie^> please guys i need some help :(
[02:32] <Steve^> Yay, Ubuntu is installed!
[02:32] <_jason> xiaogil, does 127.0.0.1 work?
[02:33] <C-O-L-T> how to install image magick?
[02:33] <Steve^> and the internet worked out the box, which is nice
[02:33] <Katie^> Fatal Error : windows 9x systems not supported by software
[02:33] <Katie^> help./
[02:34] <alvar> !linux
[02:34] <ubotu> hmm... linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Ubuntu is only one version of the GNU/Linux operating system. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[02:34] <Guard] [an> re, i have still my pb. i updated using the update manager. the result is --> xchat, sylpheed and others (don't remember) programs got removed, and i cannot install them back. what should i do ?
[02:34] <brenner> C-O-L-T: install the imagemagick package
[02:34] <brenner> Katie^: what app?
[02:34] <C-O-L-T> brenner: is it in repos?
[02:34] <brenner> C-O-L-T: main
[02:35] <Katie^> it's a disc2phone thng
[02:35] <C-O-L-T> brenner: ok
[02:35] <xiaogil> _jason: yes! but why ?
[02:35] <Katie^> so I can put mp3s on my mobile
[02:35] <Katie^> oh, wine
[02:35] <alvar> !info xchat
[02:35] <ubotu> xchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.4.4-0ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 240 kB, Installed size: 664 kB
[02:35] <_jason> xiaogil, what version of firefox are you using.  'localhost' seems to work here on 1.5, but I suspect yours is doing an "I'm feeling luck search" on google and going to that page.
[02:36] <rob^^^> when building php5 I was getting errors when I did just dpkg-buildpackage so I ran ./debian/rules/build-apache2-stamp, am I barking up the wrong tree
[02:36] <xiaogil> _jason: yes, it looks to be using google
[02:36] <_jason> xiaogil, what version are you using of firefox? 1.07?
[02:36] <xiaogil> _jason: firefox 1.0.7
[02:37] <Katie^> is there a new edition of wine
[02:37] <j2daosh> ok im back
[02:37] <j2daosh> now what were we talking about with the themes? just drag the tar file into the themes window and it installs?
[02:37] <_jason> xiaogil, yeah they probably updated it to recognize localhost as the actual localhost instead of a search.  That's my guess anyway, I've always used 127.0.0.1 so I'm not sure if that's really the case or if there is a setting somewhere.
[02:38] <j2daosh> it doesn't install to my icons or controls though
[02:38] <j2daosh> ?
[02:39] <Guard] [an> i installed xubuntu on my laptop following the wiki, it says "install ubuntu in server mode", what do i need to add to have laptop support ???
[02:39] <_jason> j2daosh, you got the window border though?  that's all that theme provides I believe
[02:39] <j2daosh> well that sucks
[02:39] <j2daosh>  :(
[02:40] <xiaogil> _jason: also, I have got a msg from gnome (at the boot of gnome) which tells me to add ubuntu to /etc/hosts, It doesn't do it automatically, what is the line to add to this file ?
[02:41] <_jason> xiaogil, that may be part of the problem then
[02:41] <VR^> brenner: i figured it out. you drop the theme file in sys > pref > theme , then you go to sys > pref > mouse > cursor and select it there
[02:41] <_jason> xiaogil, I'll post what mine looks like so you can see.  To edit it: sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[02:41] <brenner> VR^: ah, ok.  thanks for the info
[02:42] <brenner> j2daosh: don't you just hate false advertising? :)
[02:42] <j2daosh> lol yeah
[02:43] <_jason> xiaogil, here is what the first line of mine looks like: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6995
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[02:44] <brenner> j2daosh: most, if not all of the themes i've seen are modular
[02:44] <lukus001> Can someone forward me to where firefox keep it's book marks & evolutions e-mails so i can back them up?
[02:44] <j2daosh> say wha?
[02:45] <xiaogil> _jason: could you explain the syntax ? Does it mean that the 3 adresses after the first one are links to the first one ?
[02:45] <brenner> j2daosh: they're seperate. i.e. window border theme only, icon theme only
[02:45] <_jason> lukus001, firefox bookmarks: ~/.mozilla/firefox/*default/bookmarks.html
[02:45] <j2daosh> oh that sucks...
[02:46] <Katie^> how do i find out what edition of wine i have
[02:46] <_jason> xiaogil, yep, 'man hosts'
[02:46] <xiaogil> _jason: thanks a lot
[02:46] <brenner> j2daosh: personally, i think it's better...you can mix and match...
[02:46] <j2daosh> Katie^, do sudo apt-get install wine
[02:46] <lukus001> _jason: thank you
[02:46] <Katie^> yep, did that, says i have the latest edition
[02:46] <brenner> j2daosh: leave a comment if you wish asking what icon theme etc. he used
[02:46] <j2daosh> if it installs something urs was outdated
[02:46] <Katie^> version**
[02:47] <Katie^> does that mean there's no way to install this software then?
[02:47] <j2daosh> if you already have it... its already installed
[02:47] <HCl> weee :) hibernate in breezy with proprietary nvidia drivers works :)
[02:47] <wckdkl0wn> Katie^, try wines site for the latest version... the ubuntu repositories doesnt have the latest
[02:47] <Katie^> I want to install some software I got with my phone yesterday, when I try and install it with wine, it says it's not supported with windows 0x
[02:47] <aeon17x> HCl: we can hibernate? *checks*
[02:47] <aeon17x> Whoa.
[02:47] <Katie^> *9x
[02:48] <aeon17x> There IS an option.
[02:48] <mustard5> Katie^, you can set wine to make the application think that it is XP
[02:48] <j2daosh> lemme look at my wine
[02:48] <Katie^> oh how do I do that?
[02:48] <j2daosh> wine-cfg
[02:48] <KeithWeisshar> is it worth the hours to redownload a new ubuntu dvd every 6 months
[02:48] <mustard5> Katie^, try this winecfg
[02:48] <nanaem> hi, i'm kinda new to ubuntu, got a question about harddisc. i've put another disc in, formated it with Gparted to ext3. but it does not show up in nautilus. do i have to mount it somehow since ubuntu don't find it?
[02:49] <_jason> KeithWeisshar, no, update with apt-get instead
[02:49] <wckdkl0wn> KeithWeisshar, why not jsut update what u have?
[02:49] <Katie^> erm then what, lol
[02:49] <mustard5> then try installing again
[02:49] <mustard5> after you set wine to be windows NT
[02:49] <Katie^> oh i see
[02:49] <Katie^> thanks
[02:50] <mustard5> Katie^, I'm not that sure what you would be seeing on your screen :)
[02:50] <KeithWeisshar> does ubuntu allow upgrading openoffice to 2.0.1
[02:50] <Katie^> Yay!!!
[02:50] <mustard5> Katie^, obviously it installed...hopefully it runs too :)
[02:50] <Katie^> it's ok, I completely didn't see the part that says windows version
[02:50] <Katie^> lol
[02:51] <Katie^> Ms windows isntaller service? What's that?
[02:51] <mustard5> Katie^, its a windows installer
[02:51] <KeithWeisshar> do i need to changes the repositories in order to upgrade to 6.0.4
[02:51] <j2daosh> oh hell yes
[02:52] <j2daosh> :) woot woot... now my comp looks nice :) me so happy lol
[02:52] <Katie^> so how do i get that?
[02:52] <Katie^> lol
[02:52] <mustard5> Katie^, did you get an error concerning that?
[02:52] <Katie^> yes
[02:52] <Katie^> I need to have it before it'll continue with disc2phone
[02:52] <j2daosh> if you got an error for that i think ur sol
[02:52] <mustard5> Katie^, hmm..k..let me look at my wine
[02:52] <_jason> KeithWeisshar, are you going to be developing dapper?
[02:52] <KeithWeisshar> no
[02:52] <osfameron> how do I see which packages I've got installed?
[02:53] <osfameron> ($boss doing a software audit)
[02:53] <_jason> KeithWeisshar, I wouldn't recommend upgrading to it then.  It will break often while it is being developed
[02:53] <Katie^> http://tinypic.com/k359g2.png
[02:53] <KeithWeisshar> do i need to edit the config when a new final version is released
[02:53] <mustard5> Katie^, have you ever installed wine-tools ?
[02:53] <Katie^> i dont think so
[02:53] <mustard5> Katie^, how did you install wine?
[02:54] <mustard5> Katie^, from synaptic?
[02:54] <Katie^> i thought it was already here? lol
[02:54] <_jason> KeithWeisshar, you can read how to upgrade to breezy to see how to upgrade versions
[02:54] <_jason> ubotu, tell KeithWeisshar about breezy
[02:54] <Katie^> ive only been on ubuntu about 4 days
[02:54] <Katie^> lol
[02:54] <mustard5> Katie^,
[02:54] <Katie^> should i do sudo apt-get install wine-tools
[02:54] <mustard5> k
[02:54] <Katie^> 't find package wine-tools
[02:54] <mustard5> Katie^, k
[02:54] <mustard5> Katie^, I'm curious how wine was installed
[02:54] <eth42> i noticed that timing buffered disk reads (hdparm -t) are comparatively low if I'm logged into gnome. why is that so?
[02:55] <Katie^> anyway i can find out
[02:55] <j2daosh> winetools katie
[02:55] <Katie^> lol
[02:55] <Katie^> ty
[02:55] <mustard5> j2daosh, ah ok
[02:55] <Katie^> ok that's installing
[02:55] <mustard5> j2daosh, its just one word?
[02:55] <j2daosh> yep
[02:55] <mustard5> k
[02:55] <mustard5> I'm not that good on wine myself :)
[02:55] <osfameron> dpkg --get-selections!
[02:55] <Katie^> ok
[02:56] <Katie^> so now what, that's installed
[02:56] <j2daosh> lol i know the feeling... when i need windows i just restart into windows :)
[02:56] <mustard5> Katie^, type winetools in console
[02:56] <Davey`> wine update this morning, wonder if that'll let me run some newer apps :)
[02:56] <j2daosh> now try running your installer again and see what happens
[02:56] <mustard5> j2daosh, I think Katie^ would need to get winetools to install the base system
[02:57] <j2daosh> Katie^, do sudo apt-get install winetools
[02:57] <Katie^> oh yeah, ive done that
[02:57] <j2daosh> then once it is installed... type winetools
[02:57] <j2daosh> ok
[02:57] <mustard5> Katie^, you go through the installation steps that winetools presents you with..one by one
[02:57] <Katie^> im at the basesetup
[02:57] <j2daosh> install new windows system
[02:57] <mustard5> Katie^, install it all starting from the base setup..step by step
[02:58] <mustard5> Katie^, part of that installation should be the MSI installer
[02:58] <mustard5> Katie^, it should install all the things you need *fingers crossed*
[02:58] <Katie^> do you mean
[02:58] <Katie^> install windows system software right?
[02:58] <Merit> hi
[02:58] <j2daosh> it will be... once she gets all the errors about the fake drive it will take her to a screen with windows installer
[02:58] <mustard5> Katie^, yes
[02:59] <j2daosh> the second from the top in wine tools
[02:59] <Katie^> gave me tonnes of errors "IE, d...exe"
[03:00] <j2daosh> lol sorry Katie^
[03:00] <mustard5> Katie^, did you start from the first one and do each step one at a time?
[03:00] <j2daosh> u have to do the base setup first
[03:00] <j2daosh> i was skipping
[03:00] <Katie^> oh
[03:00] <j2daosh> do base setup for fake.. then the d and so on and so forth... then go to the installer part later
[03:00] <Katie^> do i create or update?
[03:00] <j2daosh> create
[03:02] <cello_rasp> how do i access foreign samba shares from bash?
[03:02] <Katie^> ok
[03:02] <Katie^> so do i go down the entire list
[03:02] <guillem101> cello_rasp, smbclient -L host
[03:02] <Katie^> of fonts dcom...foundation classics?
[03:02] <guillem101> cello_rasp, smbclient -U user -L host
[03:03] <j2daosh> ok... what the hell is drm?
[03:03] <cello_rasp> digital rights mechanism?
[03:03] <j2daosh> ive seen it before but i dont remember now
[03:04] <cello_rasp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRM
[03:04] <_jason> j2daosh, 'digital rights management'  -- basically copy protection.  Search wikipedia for more info
[03:04] <guillem101> cello_rasp, also, mc may be a valuable tool from bash: cd /#smb:user@machine/dir
[03:04] <eldamito> Hello...
[03:05] <j2daosh> great
[03:05] <j2daosh> well it is killing my terminal whatever it is
[03:05] <cello_rasp> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRM
[03:05] <_jason> j2daosh, hrmm it probably isn't digital rights management then
[03:05] <TTilus> digital restrictions management
[03:05] <j2daosh> well i killed whatever it was
[03:06] <Katie^> dum de dum
[03:06] <_jason> j2daosh, I guess that works
[03:06] <j2daosh> lol ive blued out my computer lol
[03:06] <j2daosh> can anyone guess what my favorite color is? lol
[03:06] <Katie^> red
[03:07] <TTilus> j2daosh: bsod?
[03:08] <j2daosh> lol
[03:08] <j2daosh> yep
[03:08] <Katie^> okay, windows installer installed
[03:08] <Katie^> do i need to carry on with everyhing else?
[03:08] <mustard5> Katie^, yes
[03:09] <mustard5> Katie^, finish the setup on winetools..and then that will help with all installations in the future
[03:10] <mustard5> Katie^, it may even have stuff necessary for this current installation
[03:10] <tony_> Hi all! Has anyone tried this hardware config and what kernel would be right for the badger install? Gigabyte GA-K8NMF-9 nForce4/AMD Athlon64 X2 Dual-Core "Manchester"/GeForce 7800GT
[03:11] <geopardy> ciao a tutti :)
[03:11] <Katie^> I love how it goes "it appears the installation has failed, with a great huge green tick underenat lol
[03:11] <_jason> Katie^, well at least it's windows-like
[03:11] <Ophiocus> tony_, if your downloading an iso make sure its the 64 bit version, aside from that you look ready to roll
[03:11] <Katie^> lol
[03:11] <Katie^> brb
[03:11] <geopardy> c' qualcuno che pu aiutarmi a risolvere un prob??
[03:11] <mustard5> tony_, 386 kernel should be  good for all, but you could try 64 bit kernel
[03:12] <mustard5> tony_, 386 won't make the best use of your hardware though
[03:12] <Ophiocus> !it
[03:12] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:12] <mustard5> tony_, but you will have less problems with software
[03:13] <Katie^> dog's lying in the hallway with ihs legs wide open...sexy...
[03:13] <geopardy> ok scusate :(
[03:13] <Davey`> Katie^: my cats do that all the time
[03:13] <jphi> hello
[03:13] <Katie^> male or female?
[03:13] <jphi> male
[03:14] <Katie^> --
[03:14] <jphi> ?
[03:15] <jphi> ya quelqu'un?
[03:15] <midwinter> heh.
[03:15] <Katie^> aww, i like gorillas
[03:15] <jphi> yes! i am!
[03:15] <Katie^> is a primate a gorilla/ape t hing
[03:16] <OpsVentus> Good day all! Can someone tell me when the next release is scheduled?
[03:16] <mustard5> 6 of the 4th?
[03:16] <midwinter> april
[03:16] <OpsVentus> ok, thanks
[03:16] <midwinter> 20th I think
[03:16] <midwinter> !dapper
[03:16] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[03:16] <mustard5> the version numbers are the date of release anyway
[03:17] <Katie^> the 14th is my bday :D
[03:17] <mustard5> I was close anyway :)
[03:17] <OpsVentus> ok, so I have to wait a wile
[03:17] <Katie^> just so we all know :p
[03:17] <ulaas> Katie^, 14 april?
[03:17] <Katie^> mhm
[03:17] <mustard5> OpsVentus, you having problems with the current version?
[03:17] <takedown_> mine 15 ;)
[03:18] <mustard5> mine is on a completly different day in a different month :)
[03:18] <Katie^> yay, my installation is working :D
[03:18] <OpsVentus> no, I want a clean install and was wondering I've I could wait will the next release or download Badger now
[03:18] <OpsVentus> so it's badger
[03:18] <mustard5> OpsVentus, k
[03:18] <northie> I have ubuntu on one drive, and want to install it again on another. Can I do this without using a cd?
[03:19] <tony_> mustard5 : so i should expect some software problems with 64 bit?
[03:19] <Set> ah god
[03:19] <mustard5> tony_, yes..there are some things that arne't well supported on 64 bit...
[03:19] <mustard5> tony_, multimedia stuff
[03:19] <cat_> hi
[03:20] <mustard5> tony_, I think 64bit people have problems with .wmv files and flash as well as other issues
[03:20] <midwinter> hi
[03:20] <lukus001> yo, how do you burn an iso image on to a disk properly, ive done two now and they havnt been detected on boot up
[03:20] <Katie^> what's 64bit?
[03:20] <lukus001> the same as 32bit, but twice as much =)
[03:20] <mustard5> Katie^, a faster computer :)
[03:20] <cat_> why there are so many people in #gentoo ,even more than those in #ubuntu ,
[03:21] <takedown_> mustard5: nothing problems with w32codecs...
[03:21] <smash3r> any way to kill a freezed app ?
[03:21] <takedown_> smash3r: kill pid app
[03:21] <lukus001> system tool > system moniter > appl > kill
[03:21] <Katie^> heap of crap is getting right on my tits
[03:21] <ulaas> smash3r, xkill
[03:21] <arrinmurr> cat_: because gentoo is quite popular?
[03:22] <mustard5> smash3r, on gnome you can click heaps of times on the kill button too :)
[03:22] <lukus001> So does anyone know how to burn an image properly in ubuntu>
[03:22] <mustard5> smash3r, then it throws up a dialog to force quit
[03:22] <smash3r> woah
[03:22] <smash3r> good
[03:22] <cat_> arrinmurr: i donot think so ! i think ubuntu is the most pop.
[03:22] <smash3r> I tried xkill
[03:22] <smash3r> then I cliked the damn freezed xmms
[03:22] <takedown_> Anyone know when cedega ported to 64 bit?
[03:22] <smash3r> then it crashed :)
[03:22] <smash3r> thankz all
[03:23] <Katie^> right, i get it past installing ,net framework 1.1
[03:23] <Katie^> then it asks for service pack 1 of that
[03:23] <lukus001> takedown_ most likly when more 64bit games are out
[03:23] <Katie^> and it just doesnt work, it just sits there looking at me
[03:23] <mustard5> smash3r, xmms usually freezes when the sound is not set right in the preferences
[03:23] <takedown_> :(
[03:23] <tony_> mustard5 :that is a shame. how about other linux flavors? can i run 32 bit drivers on a 64bit system?
[03:23] <arrinmurr> cat_: well, among those people that normally would even end up in linux distribution channels, gentoo may be quite popular
[03:24] <lukus001> no point in a 64 bit version when all the game except 2 are 32bit?
[03:24] <takedown_> may be anyone know how i can play if i have a cedega in chroot?
[03:24] <midwinter> sure you could
[03:24] <mustard5> tony_, you can run a 386 kernel no problems
[03:24] <takedown_> in chroot cedega dont see video drivers
[03:25] <takedown_> i posted about that on forum
[03:25] <mustard5> tony_, try both :)
[03:25] <Katie^> will someone download http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/thankyou.aspx?familyId=A8F5654F-088E-40B2-BBDB-A83353618B38&displayLang=en&oRef=http%3a%2f%2fwww.google.co.uk%2fsearch%3fq%3d.net%2bframework%2bversion%2b1.1%2bservice%2bpack%2b1%26btnG%3dSearch%26hs%3dZSN%26hl%3den%26client%3dfirefox%26rls%3dorg.mozilla%253Aen-GB%253Aunofficial and see if they can install it
[03:25] <Katie^> because when i ask it to open with wine, it doesnt even open wine let alone install
[03:25] <midwinter> that's a proper url
[03:25] <mustard5> tony_, you got more than one hard drive or space for two partitions with different installs of ubuntu?
[03:25] <Ng> what on earth is that?!
[03:26] <mustard5> Katie^, you doing it in Internet Explorer?
[03:26] <Katie^> no
[03:26] <Katie^> do i have to?
[03:26] <tony_> mustard5: sure - i will! unfortunately havee to use a win install for gaming. Yes i have enough room for ubuntu x 2
[03:27] <mustard5> tony_, well I would just try them both :)
[03:27] <rc> i have both ubuntu 5.10 and windows XP in my laptop. i need to uninstall ubuntu first since i need to have more disk space for windows since i need it in my work. i plan to just install ubuntu back after  finish doing my project. how do i remove ubuntu in my system without losing my current windows XP? thanks.
[03:27] <mustard5> tony_, you been to the ubuntuforums?
[03:27] <lowman62> why would you want .NET?
[03:28] <mustard5> lowman62, I think Katie^ is trying to install some software in wine...
[03:28] <guillem101> rc, usually by formatting partitions used by ubuntu. But be careful, since you may format the wrong partition if you don't think twice :-P
[03:28] <Ng> rc: boot into windows and use some kind of disk partitioning tool to reformat the ubuntu partitions as ntfs, or resize your windows partition over the top of them
[03:28] <tony_> mustard5: Yes!  they are great. just needed to here it would be ok from someone :)
[03:28] <Katie^> well disc2phone says you need that software, when i click ok, to continue with the installation, /nothing/ happens :(
[03:29] <takedown_> rc: u can delete linux partition with partion magick for example
[03:29] <lowman62> Katie^: i dunno if that will install using wine maybe try crossover
[03:29] <Katie^> crossover?
[03:29] <mustard5> I just wonder what partition grub is installed on on rc's system
[03:29] <lowman62> Katie^: i will get you the page one sec
[03:29] <devwal> rocketman327: still up?
[03:30] <Katie^> ty
[03:30] <devwal> woops
[03:30] <rc> takedown: i have partition magic 8.0. but, isnt deleting the linux partition result to not being able to boot into windows? since GRUB would be deleted too?
[03:30] <mikul> where can i find the file where i can see witch ports are used by (or open for) every different program?
[03:30] <takedown_> rc: thats right
[03:30] <Katie^> *which, *cackles* :p
[03:30] <foresight> there's a witch in the ports ?
[03:31] <takedown_> rc: u need windows cd for recovering mbr
[03:31] <mikul> spelling 2k :P
[03:31] <lowman62> Katie^: here it is check the professional version http://www.codeweavers.com/
[03:31] <Katie^> I have to pay for it
[03:32] <tony_> mustard5: thanx for thehelp!!
[03:32] <rc> takedown: can i safely remove ubuntu w/out losing XP by manually partioning the partitions. i'll boot using the ubuntu cd again, then delete the linux partition.. after that, il choose the windows partition ang change it to BOOTABLE. is this right?
[03:32] <thegladiator>  #ubuntu is: Official Ubuntu support channe
[03:32] <thegladiator> cool
[03:32] <lowman62> Katie^: may i pm you?
[03:32] <thegladiator> thought this is unofficial
[03:32] <Katie^> course
[03:32] <Katie^> lol
[03:33] <trog> hiya
[03:33] <thegladiator> rc, u didnt like ubuntu?
[03:33] <estudiante> hola
[03:33] <Ophiocus> !es
[03:33] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:33] <takedown_> rc: u cant delete ubuntu without lose a grub
[03:33] <trog> anyone have any experience setting patching so that you can you use kismet with the orinoco card?
[03:33] <Ophiocus> arf
[03:33] <thegladiator> just for the recors does ubuntu have a uninstallation program?
[03:33] <Katie^> any of you play inselkampf?
[03:33] <Set> !no
[03:34] <ubotu> Ahh, too bad, I really thought so...
[03:34] <mustard5> thegladiator, not that I know of
[03:34] <thegladiator> shouldnt that be included  ? so that users can safely remove ubuntu as well ?
[03:34] <Ophiocus> does windows have one thegladiator ?
[03:34] <rc> takedown: yep, in deleting ubuntu, ill loose grub but if i change windows xp to bootable, that would enable me to boot to windows ryt?
[03:35] <sudharsh> !ubotu
[03:35] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[03:35] <thegladiator> Ophiocus, Ophiocus i am asking since ubuntu creates a grb
[03:35] <Ophiocus> os dont uninstall,. you replace them with another one
[03:35] <thegladiator> grub*
[03:35] <thegladiator> windows XP can be uninstalled yes
[03:35] <thegladiator> ah i see
[03:35] <Ophiocus> uninstalled? the os? how?
[03:35] <thegladiator> XP can be downgraded to 98
[03:36] <thegladiator> Ophiocus, thats what they call uninstallation
[03:36] <mustard5> rc, you might be best doing a search in the ubuntuforums for others who have done it
[03:36] <takedown_> rc: nope
[03:36] <takedown_> rc: u have only 1 way
[03:36] <Ophiocus> that means you can install 98 over xp,. thats diferent
[03:36] <mustard5> rc, I've seen threads in there on the subject
[03:36] <thegladiator> yes that one
[03:36] <trog> what does "scripts/basic/fixdep.c:105:23: sys/types.h: No such file or directory
[03:36] <trog> " mean during the make modules command?
[03:36] <sudharsh> Ophiocus: i suppose thers an option in Add or remove Programs
[03:37] <takedown_> rc: delete linux partition, boot from windows install CD and choose recover console, type fixmbr in console and u have bootable windows
[03:37] <thegladiator> sudharsh, i think thats when you have 98 as well
[03:37] <Profichilla> hiho
[03:37] <Ophiocus> i am still to find an os that says "click here to render your computer utterly useless"
[03:37] <pfarmer> trog: it means you missing the "sys/types.h" file
[03:37] <sudharsh> thegladiator: when u install xp over 98
[03:37] <rc> takedow: thanks
[03:37] <sudharsh> been 2 years though
[03:37] <thegladiator> sudharsh, hardly can any OS remvoe itself :) thats cutting cutting a branch of tree while working on it
[03:37] <maduranga55> hello
[03:37] <thegladiator> yes only that sudharsh . othersie no facility o remove
[03:37] <Ophiocus> sudharsh, i have looked long and hard into it,. never seen "remove windows and all its components"
[03:38] <pfarmer> trog: have you got libc6-dev installed?
[03:38] <takedown_> rc: np
[03:38] <trog> pfarmer ill look
[03:38] <rc> takedown: does having 2 os affect my battery? since when i just had xp, battery lasts 2 hours and 15 mins.. now, it just lasts 1 hr and a half
[03:38] <sudharsh> Ophiocus: must be like 'revert to blah blah'...dont remember though
[03:38] <thegladiator> yes no OS has it perhaps . but grub shud be removed ...some progr shud be there...i always wanted to program a grub gen
[03:38] <thegladiator> a program that generated grub
[03:38] <Marlun> Anyone know of any app where you can get history of your internet connection status, for example when It has gone down, etc?
[03:39] <trog> installing it now
[03:39] <sudharsh> Marlun: i think ethereal does it....not sure
[03:39] <thegladiator> sudharsh, are you in any LUG ?
[03:39] <thegladiator> from chennai ?
[03:39] <FaTaL-XP> hi,  i have a few problems installing nVidia Drivers
[03:39] <sudharsh> thegladiator: yea ilugc
[03:39] <Marlun> sudharsh, thanks, I'll take a look.
[03:40] <sudharsh> thegladiator: yes
[03:40] <mustard5> FaTaL-XP, what type of problem?
[03:40] <takedown_> rc: i dont know, i dont use any notebook :)
[03:40] <mustard5> FaTaL-XP, you followiing any guides?
[03:41] <Pupeno> Are Gnome icons svg ?
[03:41] <takedown_> rc: i think OS cant affect to battery
[03:41] <takedown_> rc: its depends on hardware i think
[03:41] <aodio> !w32codecs
[03:41] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[03:42] <FaTaL-XP> well to begin with i had none of the libs,    i.e.  GCC, Make, and a ton more,   but i downloaded and installed them,   but now its saying that i have gcc4.0 and the kernal was compiled with gcc3.4 so i got 3.4,  altho it still thinks i have 4.0,   if i ignore that,   it now says i dont have the kernal source ?!?!?!?
[03:42] <Steve^> How can I make ubuntu show my SuSE and XP paritions in the file manager?
[03:42] <CarinArr> fatal-xp, then you'll have to install it;)
[03:42] <rc> takedown: do you know how to fix the system clock between ubuntu and windows? i'll install ubuntu back after a week and i wish that my clock would be fixed. ex: i use windows now, then use ubuntu, when i go back to windows, my clock has been changed.. does anyone know how to fix this? thanks guys
[03:42] <FaTaL-XP> where from ?
[03:42] <mustard5> FaTaL-XP, you tried installing from synaptic instead?
[03:42] <CarinArr> fatal-xp, do uname -r, what does it say?
[03:43] <FaTaL-XP> can you install nVidia drivers in synaptic ?
[03:43] <mustard5> !nvidia
[03:43] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[03:43] <CarinArr> but yeah, you might want to try to install the drivers through synaptic first, cause it's a lot easier
[03:43] <mustard5> FaTaL-XP, yes
[03:43] <mustard5> FaTaL-XP, check the link from ubotu above
[03:43] <rc> mustard5: why is it that wireless connection is very fast when i use ubuntu than windows xp? or is having lesser programs in my ubuntu partition the reason?
[03:43] <FaTaL-XP> ok
[03:44] <mustard5> rc, I have no idea...I'm on dialup rc :)
[03:44] <takedown_> rc: hm i dont know, i dont see that problem before..., btw u can use ntp synchronization on ubuntu and win
[03:44] <Ng> rc: the number of programs you have installed has no relation on wireless speed
[03:44] <Ng> rc: it's probably because the windows and linux drivers are different
[03:44] <rc> whats ntp synchronization by the way?
[03:45] <takedown_> rc: network time protcol
[03:45] <johnking> anybody home?
[03:45] <mustard5> everyone is home
[03:45] <takedown_> rc: in windows double click on time
[03:45] <rc> how do i do that takedown? i would appreciate if you teach me how. i love windows and i like ubuntu too. i just want to solve my time problem
[03:46] <rc> takedown: then?
[03:46] <johnking> I have a project to setup a "Forum Server" and I have no clue where to begin any help?
[03:46] <takedown_> rc: and find menu about synchronization, i forgot where place it
[03:47] <mustard5> !lamp
[03:47] <ubotu> lamp is, like, Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:47] <takedown_> rc: default installation of ubuntu use ntp synchronization
[03:47] <takedown_> rc: and windows too
[03:47] <mustard5> johnking, try that link from ubotu on lamp
[03:47] <pfarmer> johnking: sudo apt-get install phpbb2
[03:47] <takedown_> !ntp
[03:47] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ntp is Network Time Protocol. Install 'ntpdate' for a simple ntp client.
[03:48] <rc> takedown: so after locating the menu about synchronization, what would i do next?
[03:49] <takedown_> rc: u can write some ntp server, for default windows used windows ntp server
[03:49] <Katie^> who wants to read a installation error log?
[03:49] <Katie^> to see how i can fix it
[03:49] <mustard5> Katie^, put it in the pastebin
[03:49] <Katie^> whats the site?
[03:49] <mustard5> !pastebin
[03:49] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:50] <jbroome> !paste
[03:50] <ubotu> paste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:50] <CarinArr> rc, was your question just why ubuntu is quicker than win?
[03:50] <takedown_> rc: in ubuntu u can check use ubuntu time sync or no
[03:51] <rc> CarinArr: something like that. wireless is faster in ubuntu
[03:51] <rc> takedown: where will i check that?
[03:51] <Katie^> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7001
[03:51] <CarinArr> rc, i've found that as well.. might be windows reserve bandwidth for some random reason
[03:51] <takedown_> rc: type ntpdate in console and u can see it in startup scripts takedown@breezy:~/mp3$ ls /etc/init.d/ |grep ntp
[03:51] <takedown_> ntpdate
[03:51] <flogiston> I get fault when opening vim.
[03:52] <CarinArr> flogiston, what fault?
[03:52] <Katie^> okay
[03:52] <CarinArr> if it's multiple lines don't paste it in here
[03:52] <Katie^> some of it's missing
[03:52] <flogiston> Couldn't open file /tmp/v90946/0
[03:52] <rc> takedown: 12 Jan 22:52:12 ntpdate[8254] : no servers can be used, exiting
[03:52] <Katie^> can't i just sned the file to someone
[03:52] <Katie^> lol
[03:53] <flogiston> Wheres the paste bin for #ubuntu?
[03:53] <johnking> Thank guys for your help
[03:53] <Katie^> !paste
[03:53] <Ng> flogiston: it's in the topic
[03:53] <ubotu> I guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[03:53] <takedown_> rc: u have ntpdate in startup scripts folder?
[03:53] <takedown_> rc: typa witch ntpdate
[03:53] <takedown_> rc: type*
[03:53] <Ng> do you mean "which ntpdate"?
[03:53] <flogiston> I'm getting swedish error message so im not sure what it says in english but i'll try to write it.
[03:53] <Katie^> is there a program where i can let one of you guys "into" my computer to sort it
[03:53] <Katie^> lol
[03:54] <mustard5> Katie^, I have no idea what the installation log means..sorry
[03:54] <rc> takedown: comman witch not found
[03:54] <mustard5> Katie^, someone else might know what it all means
[03:54] <takedown_> rc: yea right, sry which ntdate
[03:54] <jenda> Does anyone know how to use a "loop device" with dvd::rip?
[03:54] <Ng> Katie^: you could install an ssh daemon, but it's not a great idea to let random people off the internet onto your computer
[03:54] <takedown_> damn ntpdate :)
[03:54] <Ng> rc: try "which ntpdate"
[03:55] <SilverSpace> :)
[03:55] <flogiston> CarinArr: are you familiar witht the fault?
[03:55] <sudharsh> ntpate gives a no server found error
[03:55] <Trackilizer> Hey guys.
[03:55] <Katie^> Anyone know about installation errors?
[03:55] <Trackilizer> Need your help.
[03:55] <rc> takedown: /usr/sbin/ntpdate
[03:56] <_jason> Trackilizer, ask away
[03:56] <jenda> Trackilizer: Ask, don't ask to ask :)
[03:56] <shad0w1e> my remote machine has "gone to sleep" when I "putty" into it, the terminal just sits there.. but doesnt give me any errors, just a blank screen. is there any way to "wake it up" from here? Thanks
[03:56] <Trackilizer> Re-installed windows and now GRUB is gone, how do i restore it?
[03:56] <CarinArr> flogiston, is " Couldn't open file /tmp/v90946/0" all it says?
[03:56] <mustard5> !grub
[03:56] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[03:56] <Trackilizer> I'm in the ubuntu live cd now.
[03:56] <mixandgo> Trackilizer, grub-install ?
[03:56] <sudharsh> Trackilizer: u hav the bootdisk??
[03:56] <mustard5> Trackilizer, check the second link in ubotu's message above
[03:56] <CarinArr> flogiston, and is taht when you try to run vim without any arguments?
[03:56] <flogiston> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7002
[03:57] <CarinArr> looking
[03:57] <flogiston> No arguments.
[03:57] <jenda> Trackilizer: You can use the install CD, expert mode, and sip to "installing bootloader"
[03:57] <jenda> *skip even
[03:57] <flogiston> It the same when i try to open a file or when i just run "vim"
[03:57] <CarinArr> flogiston, can you paste the contents of /urs/share/vim/vimrc in there as well?
[03:57] <Trackilizer> ok, i'll do that,does it matter if the the installation CD is hoary and not breezy?
[03:57] <flogiston> Wait a second.
[03:58] <roune> how do u uninstall ubuntu? coz i wanted to try slamd64, and i removed a partition named linux, but ubuntu still exists ^^
[03:58] <e_machinist> Is anyone else having trouble updating their repository information?
[03:58] <takedown_> rc: ok type vim /etc/default/ntpdate
[03:58] <flogiston> The whole vimrc?
[03:58] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: got dc
[03:58] <CarinArr> flogiston, yeah
[03:58] <e_machinist> roune, just format the HDD that Ubuntu is on.
[03:58] <Ng> e_machinist: nope, if you're using a mirror, try a different one?
[03:58] <gnomefreak> roune, you should beable to use the slam cd to format the linux partions
[03:59] <CarinArr> flogiston, or at least up to row 58
[03:59] <FaTaL-XP> am not sure if i am running 386 or 686 kernal,  how do i find out ?
[03:59] <gnomefreak> ^^^ without ever hearing about slamd
[03:59] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: what means dc?
[03:59] <mustard5> FaTaL-XP, uname -r
[03:59] <flogiston> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7005
[03:59] <e_machinist> Ng, not using a mirror, that is the strange part.
[03:59] <roune> gnonefreak, well, that should be the partition named linux? im running both linux and windows, and i dont want to delete the windows partition, ^^
[03:59] <e_machinist> Wait a minute...
[03:59] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: what would i do next? got " disconnected from irc"
[03:59] <Ng> e_machinist: hmm, well I'm using the UK mirror (gb.archive.ubuntu.com) and it seems to be ok
[03:59] <_jason> e_machinist, someone was having trouble with the canadian mirror yesterday
[03:59] <flogiston> The file in /tmp that vim is complaining about does not exist.
[03:59] <FaTaL-XP> thanks mate
[04:00] <mustard5> FaTaL-XP, np
[04:00] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: # servers to check.   (Separate multiple servers with spaces.)
[04:00] <ryancasimiro_> #NTPSERVERS="pool.ntp.org"
[04:00] <ryancasimiro_> NTPSERVERS="ntp.ubuntulinux.org"
[04:00] <ryancasimiro_> #
[04:00] <ryancasimiro_> # additional options for ntpdate
[04:00] <ryancasimiro_> #NTPOPTIONS="-v"
[04:00] <ryancasimiro_> NTPOPTIONS="-u"
[04:00] <Trackilizer> ok, thanks everyone....
[04:00] <jbroome> !tell ryancasimiro_ about paste
[04:00] <takedown_> hm
[04:00] <mustard5> ryancasimiro_, paste in the pastebin pls
[04:00] <e_machinist> haha... man.. I'm retarded, I forgot to turn my firewall off before updating the package information.
[04:00] <roune> gnomefreak, i tried, i tired, and i removed the partition named linux, then made a new, and then formated it, but ubuntu still exists ^^
[04:00] <gnomefreak> roune, depending on what partioner you are using it should be the one that says ext2/3 or even with the swap attached
[04:01] <ryancasimiro_> sori, im new here
[04:01] <takedown_> ok
[04:01] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: type /etc/init.d/ |grep ntp
[04:01] <flogiston> CarinArr, What to you think?
[04:01] <CarinArr> flogiston, hmm..
[04:01] <aba-> ls /etc/init.d |grep ntp
[04:01] <gnomefreak> roune,  did you try deleing the partions totally and remaking it with the slam partioner?
[04:01] <e_machinist> roune, all you really need to do is delete all partitions on your drive, format the drive, fix your master boot record and then proceed to install slam... That way you are starting fresh.
[04:01] <CarinArr> flogiston, right.. someone else might know more than me, but i would try commenting out lines 56-65
[04:02] <_jason> flogiston, why does it say /urs instead of /usr in your paste
[04:02] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: so i'l exit from the previos one? okay, wait
[04:02] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: right, forget ls :)
[04:02] <roune> gnomefreak, okay, then i was thing about another thing, becouse i installed slamd64, and they asked me if i wanted to add lilo to the masterbootrecord thing i think, but i said no, becouse i already have grub, if i installed lilo to, doesnt that mean trouble? ^^
[04:02] <flogiston> Becaus i get error message in swedish and i translated it-
[04:03] <CarlFK> svn shows: svnlook: error: cannot set LC_ALL locale; environment variable LANG is en_GB.UTF-8; please check that your locale name is correct
[04:03] <flogiston> I happend to write it wrong.
[04:03] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: yes, type :q! to quit from vim
[04:03] <flogiston> Ir should be usr
[04:03] <gnomefreak> roune, i never had issues with using lilo instead of grub
[04:03] <e_machinist> roune, you will have to edit grub to not see ubuntu and to see slam
[04:03] <cat_> hi when i run apt-get to download debs ,exactly what download tools have been used ?it is wget ?
[04:03] <_jason> flogiston, oh
[04:03] <CarlFK> I think that is a server side thing.  anyone know what "locale name" is?
[04:03] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: /etc/init.d/: is a directory
[04:03] <DeathWatch_> nas
[04:03] <gnomefreak> cat_, APT is the package manager
[04:03] <roune> gnomefreak, but if i already have grub install, and then install lilo, and havnt removed grub, wont that couse trouble?
[04:03] <takedown_> cat_: yep
[04:03] <MarcN> cat_: some http library built into apt
[04:04] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: ls /etc/init.d/ |grep ntp, just forget ls :)
[04:04] <e_machinist> roune, that is why you should fix the MBR before you install the new distro.
[04:04] <cat_> APT is  the package manager ,and wget download all the files ?
[04:04] <takedown_> gnomefreak: apt used wget for download pakages
[04:05] <roune> e_machinist, well, i dont know how to :D
[04:05] <CarinArr> flogiston, does commenting out those lines make any difference?
[04:05] <gnomefreak> takedown_, yes it should but the tool itself that it uses is APT
[04:05] <flogiston> CaringArr, with comment you meen put " infront of the line?
[04:05] <CarinArr> yeah
[04:05] <e_machinist> roune, do you have Windows XP on one of your disks or partitions?
[04:05] <cat_> is there a way to change the default download manager wget to something others ?
[04:05] <roune> e_machinist, yes i do :P
[04:06] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: it just showed ntpdate
[04:06] <gnomefreak> i htought when the person said tool after apt-get i thought they meant what pm
[04:06] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: hm then i dont know, all looks fine
[04:06] <e_machinist> roune, the easiest way to fix it then is to insert your installation disc for XP, and boot from the cd, after it loads, press R to start the recovery console, log into the recovery console and type fixmbr, press y for yes.
[04:07] <PMantis> What coutry is Canonical, Ltd from?
[04:07] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: u have internet connection from u ubuntu?
[04:07] <e_machinist> It will erase the boot loader altogether, then you can proceed to install slam and let it install Lilo.
[04:07] <roune> e_machinist, thanks, i will write that down ;P
[04:07] <e_machinist> roune, heh.
[04:07] <flogiston> CarinArr: at least im not getting any error message
[04:08] <CarinArr> flogiston, does it start okay?
[04:08] <flogiston> yepp
[04:08] <takedown_> cat_: i think it impossible and why u want to change it?
[04:08] <flogiston> Now i just want to activate row numbering and im happy^^
[04:08] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: my problem is with windows i think. im using ubuntu now. if i boot to windows next time, time will be incorrect. usually delayed by 8hrs even if time is correct when i used windows the last time
[04:08] <cat_> takedown_: wget is not fast i think
[04:09] <CarinArr> flogiston, cool.. i always set up my own .vimrc in my home directory, and it overrides the default one
[04:09] <trappist> me too
[04:09] <flogiston> That sounds safer.
[04:09] <takedown_> cat_: lol, downloading speed not a depend on download manager
[04:09] <flogiston> The only thing that i uncommented is syntax highlighting.
[04:10] <trappist> flogiston: here's mine: http://linuxkungfu.org/files/home/dot_vimrc
[04:10] <flogiston> CarinArr, can you post the default to?
[04:10] <CarinArr> flogiston, what do you mean?
[04:10] <takedown_> cat_: its depends only on u internet connection
[04:11] <flogiston> The original vimrc
[04:11] <cat_> takedown_:not really ,some download manager is design to have multi-threading feather
[04:11] <flogiston> The one that comes by default installation
[04:11] <PMantis> if the Isle of Man part of the United Kingdom ? (Canonical address)
[04:11] <CarinArr> flogiston, i'm on my suse machine in the office atm and i'm not sure it even has a default vimrc
[04:11] <trappist> cat_: wget will happily saturate your pipe, and multi-threading doesn't fatten your pipe at all
[04:11] <flogiston> Okey.
[04:11] <mcphail> I've stupidly deleted /var/log/ (a directory I don't back up). I assume there is no recovery bar re-installation?
[04:11] <CarinArr> flogiston, it has a vimrc_example, but that's it
[04:11] <flogiston> think thats the same.
[04:12] <mcphail> */var/lib
[04:12] <flogiston> I'll be fine with mine now.
[04:12] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: so i dont know something else about it, u can find some info in google
[04:12] <flogiston> Trappist; do you know how to show row numbers in wim?
[04:12] <sudharsh> cat_: try d4x
[04:12] <CarinArr> flogiston, set number
[04:12] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: okie thanks so much
[04:12] <eva_> hi
[04:13] <midwinter> PMantis, yes, probably for tax reasons or something though..
[04:13] <cat_> sudharsh:yeah i mean d4x ,but how to replace wget ?
[04:13] <sudharsh> do use firefox
[04:13] <flogiston> i cant find it
[04:13] <flogiston> Do i have to ad it myselfe?
[04:13] <CarinArr> flogiston, you just need to put "set number"
[04:13] <jvNET> something is wrong with my Firefox
[04:13] <CarinArr> flogiston, make a .vimrc file in your homedirectory, and put "set number" in there
[04:14] <sudharsh> cat_: use flashgot extension for firefox and u r set
[04:14] <jvNET> /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  8552 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[04:14] <trappist> flogiston: set number
[04:14] <PMantis> midwinter, I was wondering about mailing address. :)
[04:14] <sudharsh> jvNET: u shouldnt run tthat
[04:14] <_jason> jvNET, what version
[04:14] <jvNET> 1.5
[04:14] <PMantis> midwinter, I think what I have is good enough...
[04:14] <_jason> jvNET, are you running SCIM?
[04:14] <sudharsh> !firefox 1.5
[04:14] <jvNET> im using it until i reboot my pc
[04:14] <ubotu> sudharsh: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[04:14] <cat_> sudharsh: thanks but it goes far away to my destiny
[04:14] <jvNET> whats SCIM?
[04:14] <flogiston> shouldn't there be a .vim in ~?
[04:14] <sudharsh> !firefox 1.5
[04:15] <midwinter> PMantis, yeah shouldn't be hard to find an address for them..
[04:15] <trappist> flogiston: .vimrc
[04:15] <FaTaL-XP> well in installed nvidia drivers via synaptic,   but when i rebooted the X-Server it does not show the nVidia logo like it says it should,     any ideas ?
[04:15] <CarinArr> flogiston, my .vimrc in my homedirectory looks like this: http://www.cs.bath.ac.uk/~ccem20/.vimrc
[04:15] <PMantis> midwinter, Yeah: http://www.canonical.com/contact
[04:15] <flogiston> ok
[04:15] <cello_rasp> why doesnt my Super_L key work anymore?
[04:15] <jvNET> i really dont know what happend to my firefox
[04:15] <sudharsh> jvNET: try this https://www.wiki.ubuntu.org/FirefoxNewversion
[04:15] <PMantis> midwinter, But doens't say country. Apparently, Isle of Man is a country by itself? Hmmmm
[04:15] <CarinArr> fatal-xp, you need to make sure your xorg.conf is set up properly
[04:16] <takedown_> FaTaL-XP: u need to replace "nv" to "nvidia" in u xorg.conf in video section
[04:16] <jvNET> I was using it with no problems, until I rebooted my Pc
[04:16] <FaTaL-XP> hrmm
[04:16] <jvNET> I can't open firefox.. Y_Y
[04:16] <CarinArr> fatal-xp, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074 <- look at that, it tells you exactly what you need to do
[04:16] <flogiston> What does everything do?
[04:16] <foresight> lowman62, there ?
[04:16] <sudharsh> jvNET: try running the firefox-bin thingy
[04:17] <woodywarty> Hi all
[04:17] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: last question: how do i choose the right resolution for my laptop? screen resolution just have 3 choices but my laptop uses a higher resolution. how do i change my screen resolution?
[04:17] <_jason> flogiston, you might want to read this, it is similar to your error before: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-8372.html
[04:17] <e_machinist> woodywarty: holla
[04:17] <woodywarty> How do I enable scripts so that I can run them at Startup in Ubuntu ?
[04:17] <sudharsh> jvNET: follow the instructions if u r upgrading from ff 1.0.7 to 1.5
[04:17] <FaTaL-XP> ok so just change Driver		"nv"    to Driver		"nvidia"
[04:17] <sudharsh> check this out
[04:18] <cello_rasp> how do install kde programs?
[04:18] <jvNET> yes I did the instruction
[04:18] <sudharsh> in the wiki page?
[04:18] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: hm i think u can use menu in u kde\gnome(just i dont use that) or u can configure it manualy
[04:18] <e_machinist> cello_rasp: apt or the K implementation of Synaptic...
[04:18] <jvNET> yes
[04:18] <sudharsh> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion....<----this link?
[04:19] <_jason> cello_rasp, I think you use 'adept', try #kubuntu
[04:19] <sudharsh> oh okie dokie
[04:19] <jvNET> i think so... i copied it under gedit
[04:19] <cello_rasp> thx, i'm trying to have kde programs over gnome :)
[04:19] <sudharsh> what does simply running 'firefox' in terminal say?
[04:19] <woodywarty> So can somebody tell me how to enable scripts to run at Startup ???
[04:19] <woodywarty> Please help
[04:19] <jvNET> /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  8786 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[04:19] <e_machinist> KDE programs over gnome? GNOME missing something that you need?
[04:20] <trappist> woodywarty: to run as root at bootup, or as you at login?
[04:20] <sudharsh> jvNET: ushouldnt run dat
[04:20] <woodywarty> Trappits, to run at bootup
[04:20] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: its not in the options when i use the GUI
[04:20] <CarinArr> flogiston, right.. syntax on turns on syntax highlighting, background=dark makes the colour choices suitable for dark background terminals, tabstop=3 makes tabs 3 characters wide, shiftwidth=3 number of spaces used for autoindent, backspace=2 sets the backspace mode, showcmd shows the command characters, autoindent and smartindent has to do with automatic indentation, incsearch enables incremental search, and number enables line numbers
[04:20] <sudharsh> try creatinf a symlink of firefox in /opt in /usr/bin
[04:20] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: how do i reconfigure it in the terminal?
[04:20] <jvNET> ok i'll try
[04:21] <sudharsh> jvNET: i guess u didnt follow the instructions in the page properly
[04:21] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: try type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:21] <jvNET> I was using that step few months ago
[04:21] <ryancasimiro_> can't use Totem movie player that comes with ubuntu. totem could not start up.. video ouput is in use... etc.. does any1 know about this?
[04:21] <trappist> woodywarty: check out /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[04:21] <flogiston> does the vimrc in my ~ override the one in /usr/share/vim/vimrc without setting anything up?
[04:22] <sudharsh> jvNET: r u sure??/
[04:22] <jvNET> yes
[04:22] <CarinArr> flogiston, i _think_ so.. but i'm not sure.. have a look at the vim manual, it should tell you
[04:22] <sudharsh> k...do this 'sudo ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox'
[04:22] <sudharsh> then...
[04:23] <CarinArr> flogiston, if you're not fussed about the global vimrc file you can just rename it and it won't be used
[04:23] <sudharsh> did u do the dpkg-divert thingy
[04:23] <jvNET> files exist
[04:23] <_jason> flogiston, I think it just augments it.  It's run in addition to the /etc/vim/vimrc
[04:23] <sudharsh> jvNET: sudo dpkg-divert --divert /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu --rename /usr/bin/firefox
[04:23] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: but i think u cant use another resolution if u dont have modeline in u xorg.conf
[04:23] <CarinArr> _jason might be right
[04:23] <CarinArr> infact that would make sense
[04:23] <woodywarty> Trappist, isn't there a easier way to start scripts at Boot-up ???
[04:24] <flogiston> does the vimrc work even when hiding it? like .vimrc in my ~
[04:24] <jvNET> then sudo ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox right?
[04:24] <sudharsh> yes
[04:24] <_jason> flogiston, that's how I have it
[04:24] <flogiston> Thanks
[04:24] <Belutz> where's the file setting for network profile created by network-admin?
[04:24] <CarinArr> flogiston, naming it vimrc wouldn't work.. it needs the . before
[04:24] <trappist> woodywarty: probably, but I don't know what it is in ubuntu.  in redhat it used to be /etc/rc.local
[04:24] <jvNET> file exist still
[04:24] <sudharsh> k try this 'mv /usr/bin/firefox /usr/bin/firefox-backup
[04:25] <purplefeltangel> can someone tell me how to install a font?
[04:25] <sudharsh> with sudo of course
[04:25] <CarinArr> anyhoo.. need to go pick my dog up
[04:25] <CarinArr> laters!
[04:25] <sudharsh> purplefeltangel: copy the fonts in fotns:///
[04:25] <FaTaL-XP> done that,  am still getting now nvidia logo :(
[04:25] <sudharsh> *fonts:///
[04:25] <javaTard> I can't seem to find a list of supported wireless cards for laptops, is in on the ubuntu site and I am just not finding it in search?
[04:25] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: im not in. im not at the option whre i would choose the video modes to use.. only 3 screen resolutions are chosen. how do i chooce a screen resolution.. how do i mark it?
[04:25] <jvNET> still geting mv /usr/bin/firefox /usr/bin/firefox-backup
[04:25] <jvNET> xsend
[04:25] <sudharsh> ???
[04:25] <jvNET> still geting this : /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  8989 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[04:26] <_jason> javaTard, search the wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:26] <sudharsh> jvNET: dont run run-mozilla.sh
[04:26] <purplefeltangel> sudharsh: thxu
[04:26] <sudharsh> jvNET: run fireox-bin
[04:26] <trappist> FaTaL-XP: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, in the "Device" section, put this:  Option "NoLogo" "True"
[04:26] <sudharsh> else make a launcher in the desktop that points to it
[04:26] <jvNET> let me try
[04:27] <FaTaL-XP> sorry,  i ment,  am not getting an nvidia logo
[04:27] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: whats that?
[04:27] <smash3r> hello! I would like some help to mount my dvd-rom since I tried many times to mount it and that it seems to be not recongnized by ubuntu (any issue with sony dvd burners?)
[04:28] <cello_rasp> how do i make mount executable by users?
[04:28] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: try my method: type gtf and write u resolution like this gtf 1024x768@100 and u got a modeline and copy that modeline to xorg.conf
[04:28] <jvNET> how do you run firefox-bin? if i type "firefox" in terminal, i will get this : /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  8989 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[04:28] <FaTaL-XP> i have followed all the instruction to install the nvidia drivers,   but i am not getting a logo,   so am not sure they are workin ?
[04:29] <sudharsh> u hav the wrong symlimk
[04:29] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: thats the resolution i want to use
[04:29] <trappist> FaTaL-XP: you can tell if they're working if this gives you a 'yes': glxinfo | grep rendering
[04:29] <cello_rasp> smash3r: i dunno about sony - they tend to be fine -  but check out fstab
[04:29] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: okay, ill try
[04:29] <jvNET> but i was using firefox 1.5 for almost 3days now
[04:29] <sudharsh> jvNET dont run the script....run fiefox executable
[04:29] <sudharsh> well..try it
[04:30] <smash3r> FaTaL-XP: have you tried this? -> "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[04:30] <FaTaL-XP> ok,  excellent guys,  thanks for your help,     will GL appz work now ?
[04:30] <ryancasimiro_> takdown: gtf comman not found
[04:30] <jvNET> "sh firefox-bin" under /opt/firefox - firefox-bin: firefox-bin: cannot execute binary file
[04:30] <_jason> jvNET, I doubt this will work but try: 'firefox -safe-mode'
[04:30] <smash3r> cello_rasp: I checked the fstab and my hdc isnt there
[04:30] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: pm me if u need some help
[04:30] <trappist> FaTaL-XP: did you get a yes?
[04:30] <FaTaL-XP> yes
[04:31] <trappist> then yes :)
[04:31] <joe_alf> jvNET: try /opt/firefox/firefox
[04:31] <FaTaL-XP> Direct Rendering: Yes
[04:31] <cello_rasp> smash3r: try including a line to mount it then :>
[04:31] <sudharsh> dont include sh
[04:31] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: try /usr/X11R6/bin/gtf
[04:31] <jvNET> same error
[04:32] <_jason> jvNET, with safe-mode?
[04:32] <sudharsh> jvNET dont inlcude the 'sh'
[04:32] <sudharsh> jus /opt/firefox/firefox
[04:32] <javaTard> Nevermind, I got it. Thanks
[04:32] <jvNET> @jason,  same error
[04:32] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: something about the resolution came out.. options
[04:32] <jvNET> i did not add SH
[04:32] <joe_alf> jvNET: type this exactly /opt/firefox/firefox
[04:32] <smash3r> anyone got any issue with cd-rom or dvd-rom not being recognized before me here ?
[04:32] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: try /usr/X11R6/bin/gtf 1024 768 100
[04:33] <jvNET> /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  9311 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[04:33] <sudharsh> smash3r: what errors r u getting while mountin the disc
[04:33] <sudharsh> jvNET: dont run-mozilla.sh
[04:33] <jvNET> i think my firefox is link with run-mozilla.sh
[04:33] <sudharsh> oh oh...
[04:33] <smash3r> sudharsh: "hdc doesnt exist" (and its plugged & working on windows side)
[04:33] <jvNET> i tried this /opt/firefox/firefox then same run-mozilla.sh error
[04:33] <ryancasimiro_> is the refresh rate really 100? what does refresh rate mean by the way? im using a compaq v2000 laptop
[04:34] <joe_alf> jvNET: ls -l /opt/firefox/firefox
[04:34] <sudharsh> smash3r: what does post say about ur drive
[04:34] <trappist> smash3r: you're sure it's supposed to be hdc?  it's your secondary master drive?
[04:34] <smash3r> sudharsh: how do I check this ?
[04:34] <smash3r> trappist: yes i am
[04:34] <sudharsh> i mean: primary or secondary
[04:34] <e_machinist> Anyone use or have used RealPlayer 10 on Linux? Is it any better than the windows version?
[04:34] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: i dont know its just example
[04:34] <smash3r> my dvd-rom drive is secondary master
[04:34] <sudharsh> r u sure.......
[04:35] <smash3r> YES
[04:35] <jvNET> -rwxr-xr-x  1 myusername myusername 5239 2005-11-12 08:59 /opt/firefox/firefox
[04:35] <smash3r> I plugged it myself
[04:35] <ryancasimiro_> i entered it already
[04:35] <sudharsh> okie.....dokie....check the fstab
[04:35] <ryancasimiro_> whats next
[04:35] <_jason> jvNET, what does 'apt-cache policy scim | grep Installed' return?
[04:35] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: for u need to write u resolution and u refresh rate, dont write unsupported options, u can damage u monitor!
[04:36] <jvNET> installed (none)
[04:36] <sudharsh> doesnt scim hav issues with ff 1.5
[04:36] <ryancasimiro_> whats u?
[04:37] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: u can find supported options in u documentations for u notebook
[04:37] <jvNET> i also tried GAIM, but I can't run it either, 'segmentation fault' also
[04:37] <Ng> ryancasimiro_: "you" or "your", I think ;)
[04:37] <sudharsh> oh dear..
[04:38] <Ng> jvNET: if you're getting lots of odd segfaults you should probably test your RAM
[04:38] <sudharsh> jvNET does firefox and gaim....run propely for other users??
[04:38] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: what happened when i entered the code u told me? did it changed something?
[04:38] <Ng> if you can, install memtest86+
[04:38] <_jason> jvNET, try logging in as a different user and see if you can run firefox
[04:38] <revel> hi, sorry to bug but but.. have tried everything else and get get my kernel to work, tried almost every
[04:38] <revel> possible combination with and without any patches, all goes ok but when i try to boot new kernel, it loads
[04:38] <jvNET> I havnt tried gaim running on other uysers
[04:38] <revel> normally for while.. then BUM ...  http://www.ei-heru.info/kernel1.jpg
[04:39] <jvNET> ok.. i'll be right back
[04:39] <revel> any ideas? its endless loop goes from 0 to 100000000000000 with speed of light :)
[04:39] <jvNET> brb
[04:39] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: u=you :)
[04:39] <sudharsh> revel: u installed the vanilla kernel from kernel.org?
[04:39] <_jason> sudharsh, that's just weird that we thought that at the same time...
[04:39] <revel> sud, yes with ck1 patch.
[04:39] <sudharsh> :P........gr8 minds think alike
[04:39] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: nope, it can changed if u add this line to xorg.conf in Monitor section
[04:39] <revel> sud, tried .14 version with and without patches and .15 same thing, allways same thing :(
[04:40] <Ng> revel: have you tried applying any of the ubuntu patches?
[04:40] <jvNET> omg! same error on other users
[04:40] <Ng> jvNET: test your RAM
[04:40] <sudharsh> revel: ok...u did appy the patches to base kenrel didnt u
[04:40] <jvNET> how do you test RAM?
[04:40] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: ah okay.  i just learned right now that i am already using 1024 x 768 right nw and what i want is a resolution of 1280 x 768.
[04:40] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: but dont add this line if u dont know supported that resolution or not for u notebook
[04:40] <Ng> jvNET: install memtest86+ and a new entry will appear in grub
[04:40] <revel> ng, havent found any? did everything how explained @ ubuntu forums
[04:40] <sudharsh> jvNET: boot and run memtest86+ in grub
[04:40] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: u can damage them...
[04:40] <sudharsh> thers an option
[04:41] <jvNET> ic
[04:41] <jvNET> ok.. let me check that first
[04:41] <revel> sud, with base kernel you mean my new fresh kernel? havent done anything with original one
[04:41] <jvNET> thanks guys
[04:41] <jvNET> brb
[04:41] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: what refresh rate supported with 1280 x 768?
[04:41] <Ng> revel: there's a package with them in... linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.12
[04:41] <sudharsh> revel: so u got the 2.6.15 ?
[04:41] <revel> sud, only for new ones.. bzcat patchaname.gz | patch -p1 thing
[04:41] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: so nothing happened even i entered the code you told me a while a go... the 1024 768 100 even ... ubuntu is already using that
[04:41] <sudharsh> revel: so u got the 2.6.15 ?
[04:42] <wilde> hi to all. there's someone that knows something about videomobile 3, and how is possible to download photo and video from it at ubuntu????
[04:42] <Ng> revel: I have no idea if they apply to 2.6.15 and I'd advise you not to stray too far from the included kernel unless you have to - some userspace stuff will depend on those patches
[04:42] <revel> sud, now trying .14 again, tried .15 too. now i have 2.6.12-10-386 (original) because i cant boot any newer
[04:42] <sudharsh> what bout without patches
[04:43] <revel> ng, i need to get new kernel because of cisco vpn client (needs original kernel source, which is not included with ubuntu original kernel)
[04:43] <tharglet> 'lo.... anyone can tell me where I can get thread.h so I can use mutex_lock?
[04:43] <sudharsh> well try without patches then
[04:43] <sudharsh> i m in m new kernel
[04:43] <revel> sud, without any patches, same thing.. /dev/ttyS(numbers) : no such file or dir ...
[04:44] <revel> sud, i have tried without patches.
[04:44] <wckdkl0wn> has anyone here installed cedega?
[04:44] <revel> compiled about 10 times now with all possible versions :)
[04:44] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: ask me what refresh rate supported with resolution what u want to use?
[04:44] <tharglet> Is there a proper place to get it or do I have to hunt it down n just stick it with the other c headers?
[04:44] <sudharsh> revel: well....nvr seen anythin like this...cheked with the guyz at kernel.org??
[04:44] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: thanks for your help. i dont want to use my desired resolution anymore to be safe. i entered /usr/X11R6/bin/gtf 1024 768 100
[04:44] <ryancasimiro_>  in my terminal
[04:44] <revel> sud, nope.
[04:44] <revel> asked from ubuntu forum but now answer yet.
[04:45] <revel> hopefully someone figures it out
[04:45] <zAo^> when is Flight 3 expected?
[04:45] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: wont there be any conflicts with what i have dne since my ubuntu is already using 1024 x 768 with 0 refresh rate
[04:45] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: ok, add this line to xorg.conf in Monitor section(u can delete previous modeline) and restart X
[04:45] <sudharsh> revel: i m not that kinda of a expert when it comes to weird problems like this
[04:45] <revel> hehe
[04:45] <revel> me neither
[04:45] <sudharsh> sry....check the kernel.org just in case
[04:46] <revel> this is first channel someone bothers to try tho!
[04:46] <jorgp> how well does lvm2 work?
[04:46] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: wow, 0 refresh rate, really?
[04:46] <revel> asked from local ubuntu / linux channel, such idiots they dont want to help anyone
[04:46] <sudharsh> yeah i understand...:P
[04:46] <sudharsh> ???........i didnt get u
[04:47] <tharglet> hmm
[04:47] <revel> sud, this channel and you are first who tries to help.
[04:47] <ryancasimiro_> whats this for? i am now contented with my current resolution. i got scared that my monitor will be harmed if i do something wrong..
[04:47] <sudharsh> revel: oh
[04:48] <klip> normally, you can't select a resolution which is bad for your monitor =) @ryan
[04:48] <tharglet> Can u break ur monitor other than physical abuse?
[04:48] <gnomefreak> zAo^, as of 2-3 days ago there was no date set for flight 3
[04:48] <sudharsh> revel: what does local ubuntu channel maen...excusez moi...new to irc
[04:48] <woodywarty> So guys, how do I enable scripts to run at Boot-Up ?
[04:48] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: what is the effect of entering /usr/X11R6/bin/gtf 1024 768 100
[04:48] <ryancasimiro_>  in the terminal. ubuntu is already using 1024 x 768 with refresh rate of 0
[04:48] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: ok comment previous modeline and add line got with gtf in Monitor section
[04:48] <revel> sud, finnish channel at ircnet
[04:49] <sudharsh> oh....ok
[04:49] <zAo^> gnomefreak remember it? I saw it on the forums somewhere, but cant find it :) Need a fresh install :#
[04:49] <pfarmer> woodywarty: you mean like starting a server at boot time?
[04:49] <sudharsh> but nice pic though.....
[04:49] <ryancasimiro_> what do u min? how do i do that?
[04:49] <tharglet> Does anyone know about c headers, and what ones Ubuntu has?
[04:49] <Znort> Hello, I am currently running Ubuntu but sometimes when I am using gaim the window turns black with random colored pixels. When this happens also synaptic, the terminal and kopete aren't useable anymore till reboot. What should I do?
[04:49] <pfarmer> tharglet: which one's are you after?
[04:50] <sudharsh> revel: if u r see if sudo apt-get install linux-tree helps
[04:50] <tharglet> pfarmer, thread.h
[04:50] <woodywarty> Well pfarmer, I have a script which I want to start at Boot-Up Time
[04:50] <sudharsh> Znort: do u hav a weird monitor..or a configuration?
[04:51] <woodywarty> Which means that I want that script to start at boot-time when my server restarts each time
[04:51] <revel> sud, doesnt.
[04:51] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: open xorg,conf with some redactor and past that line
[04:51] <sudharsh> revel: thers a linux-tree
[04:51] <Znort> sudharsh: what you call wierd? =P
[04:51] <BuZzY> come vedo se ho l interpreto perl installato?
[04:51] <BuZzY> sorry!!!
[04:51] <zAo^> :)
[04:51] <sudharsh> what monitor do u hav
[04:52] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: i entered /usr/X11R6/bin/gtf 1024 768 100... ubuntu is using the same resolution with a refresh rate of 0.  im afraid conflicts might happen
[04:52] <Znort> philips 107e
[04:52] <tharglet> I currently run Ubuntu in a VM, but maybe one day I'll unlazy and make my system dual-boot
[04:52] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: how do i open xorg.conf? sorry takedown im i newbie in ubuntu and doesnt know programming
[04:52] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: gtf dont changed u resolution, its just generate modeline for configuration
[04:53] <sudharsh> revel: also try installing linux-source
[04:53] <nanaem> how do i make a harddisk visible after i've partitioned it as ext3? shall i edit the fstab somehow? just point me in the right direction and maybe i'll figure it out :)
[04:53] <tharglet> ryancasimiro_, I should imagine the only thing that could happen is things don't appear on the screen. I shouldn't imagine it would break anything
[04:53] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: type sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:53] <revel> sudharsh, there is no source for original kernel.
[04:53] <gorski> i have problemas with my soundcard, what are the default settings in gstreamer-properties, please?
[04:53] <revel> sud, i have tried those also
[04:53] <sudharsh> revel: theres is in my synaptic
[04:53] <revel> sudharsh, not for my version of kernel :(
[04:54] <gnomefreak> zAo^, i havent seen it but will keep eyes open
[04:54] <gnomefreak> zAo^, no flight 3 yet i just did google for flight 3 its not been released yet
[04:54] <gnomefreak> osnews has an expect something on flight 3
[04:54] <sudharsh> revel: u  r runnin the default breezy onces...rite?
[04:54] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: opened it already. whats next?
[04:54] <zAo^> gnomefreak thnx, I know that it isnt released yet, but I wonder when it will
[04:54] <mcscruff> is there a command to see the temperature of my pc?
[04:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> nanaem: Yeah, you'll probably have to edit /etc/fstab... basically, take an entry that's already there, copy it, and change the mount point and physical address.
[04:54] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: type "i"
[04:55] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: and find Monitor Section
[04:55] <revel> sud, yes. 2.6.12-10-386
[04:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> nanaem: And the filesystem, if it's not ext3.
[04:55] <sudharsh> thers is mate...
[04:55] <imc_> Anyone successfully running ubuntu breezy on an iBook with WiFi running?
[04:55] <imc_> I said, anyone successfully running ubuntu breezy on an iBook with WiFi running?  :)
[04:55] <nanaem> ok, ty Pumper
[04:55] <fratta> fciao
[04:55] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: then?
[04:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> nanaem: np :)
[04:55] <pfarmer> woodywarty: symlink the script into /etc/rc3.d as S99scriptname
[04:55] <fratta> why?
[04:55] <pfarmer> tharglet: what are you trying to compile?
[04:56] <fratta> i love you
[04:56] <keleksi> <3
[04:56] <Znort> Anybody has an idea why gaim turns black with random colored pixels all of a sudden?
[04:56] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: type "#" before current modeline
[04:57] <sudharsh> k gotta bail.........bye
[04:57] <sudharsh> revel: i suggest u check the kernel.org mailing lists
[04:57] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: i cant see any current modeline?
[04:57] <tharglet> pfarmer, a piece of coursework... found a copy of it to put in with the files... hopefully it should work
[04:57] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: and copy modeline generated with gtf
[04:58] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: whats the goal of what we're doing?
[04:58] <pfarmer> tharglet: try installing apt-file and then running "sudo apt-file update" and then "sudo apt-file search thread.h"
[04:59] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: find Section Monitor
[05:00] <lukus001> Hey everyone, i just installed the new version of ubuntu (breezy badger?) but synaptic package manger wont load up and a few of the other process under system >administration
[05:00] <ryancasimiro_> i think we're not thinking the same.. what i want to do is to delete the line that i made i gtf
[05:00] <tharglet> pfarmer, apt-file ain't vaild
[05:01] <gnomefreak> lukus001, do any of the system>admin apps work?
[05:01] <wckdkl0wn> how do i kill a program thats running that i cant close?
[05:01] <gorski> can somebody help me with sound configuration, please!?
[05:01] <kemik> wckdkl0wn: alt+f2 : type xkill and klick program
[05:01] <gorski> can somebody help me with sound configuration, please!?
[05:01] <takedown_> ryancasimiro_: damn just find Section Monitor in conf
[05:01] <ryancasimiro_> takedown: i dont know if im right but when i entered 1024 768 100 in gtk, didnt it edit gtk? i  want o undo that...
[05:02] <_jason> lukus001, does a password prompt appear?
[05:02] <kemik> wckdkl0wn: or in CLI "pkill <applicationname>"
[05:02] <tharglet> pfarmer, Also found out that header has a bunch of depenancies....
[05:02] <lukus001> gonefreak: printer work, but the ones that need a password prompt for a password but never load
[05:02] <pfarmer> tharglet: you'll need to install the correct package
[05:03] <tharglet> pfarmer, yeah - will that be in Synaptic?
[05:03] <lukus001> device manager etc.. works... synaptic, networking etc.. dont
[05:03] <gnomefreak> lukus001, are you sure its the right password you are using?
[05:03] <Lil-Abner> Good morning. Can anyone tell what the system requirements are for installing Ubuntu?
[05:03] <kemik> lukus001: fire up a terminal and try "sudo -i"
[05:03] <_jason> lukus001, did you enable root for some reason?
[05:03] <gorski> can somebody help me with sound configuration, please!?
[05:03] <lukus001> gnomefreak: i only ever use one password
[05:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Lil-Abner: 386 or compatible machine, or higher.
[05:04] <tharglet> lukus001, Did u set a root pass, if u need one?
[05:04] <gnomefreak> 128mb ram help too
[05:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Lil-Abner: It might be a bit slow on a 386, but it will run.
[05:04] <kemik> tharglet: you shouldnt set a rootpass
[05:04] <kemik> tharglet: use sudo/gksudo
[05:04] <tharglet> kemik, Why not?
[05:04] <pfarmer> tharglet: yeah - but you need to know which package to install - thread.h appears in quite a few packages
[05:04] <lukus001> kemik: i tried sudo -i, prompted password, entered, nothing
[05:04] <tharglet> kemik, That always doesn't work for me
[05:05] <_jason> lukus001, paste what the command 'groups' returns
[05:05] <tharglet> pfarmer, I just need the header... what are the packages it's in?
[05:05] <lukus001> tharglet: i remember entering a root password during installation
[05:05] <kemik> tharglet: guess you're doing something wrong then :X
[05:05] <klip> tharglet: if you always set a rootpass, your system is not as save as with sudo
[05:05] <tharglet> lukus001, Hmm, didn't on my Ubuntu
[05:05] <pfarmer> tharglet: what does the code you're compiling do
[05:05] <tharglet> klip, Ah well, this is just a VM anyway
[05:05] <kemik> lukus001: the installation doesnt ask for a root password
[05:05] <klip> there is a sense why there is a command like sudo : )
[05:05] <lukus001> _jason: for sudo -i you mean?
[05:06] <_jason> lukus001, no, normal terminal
[05:06] <Lil-Abner> PuMpErNickle: Thanks. I have a P2 with 450mhz, 512mb memory, and 13Gb hdd.
[05:06] <gnomefreak> lukus001, the installer never asks for a root password
[05:06] <tharglet> kemik, If this gets hacked to bits, there's no sensitive info in it, lol
[05:06] <LostFrog> Lil-Abner: that is more than sufficient.
[05:06] <lukus001> gnomefreak, even in expert install?
[05:06] <lukus001> _jason, what o you mean by command groups then :s
[05:06] <kemik> tharglet: sure, still there are reasons to not be root, like, it's harder to accidentally wipe /etc ;)
[05:06] <Znort> Did anybody succeed in emulatiog windows via wine the way that World of Warcraft is playable?
[05:07] <gnomefreak> lukus001, it shouldnt no
[05:07] <gnomefreak> !rootsudo
[05:07] <ubotu> rumour has it, rootsudo is explained at  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo   also see /msg ubotu root
[05:07] <Lil-Abner> I just ordered the disks. I have a linux system on it now, but as a newbie to linux, it's a litte difficult to get the thing working right.
[05:07] <_jason> lukus001, go to accessories -> terminal and type 'groups', that's all :)
[05:07] <nikls_> something is wrong in this syntax, can someone tell me where is the error ? => wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/s/scim/scim*
[05:07] <balzac> hello
[05:07] <klip> Znort: I know that Starcraft and Warcraft 3 run on with WinE
[05:07] <kemik> lukus001: type 'groups' in a terminal
[05:07] <lukus001> Gnomefreak, well it did say i should set up a root password and asked for it, then asked me to set up a user... so shoud i be setting up a root password now somehow?
[05:07] <tharglet> kemik, I have snapshots for me breaking my system :D And the 3 files I care about I back up
[05:07] <balzac> i'm having one hell of a time trying to install my Intel 537EP modem on breezy
[05:07] <arrinmurr> Znort: try #winehq
[05:07] <lukus001> lukus001@Verpix:~$ groups
[05:07] <lukus001> lukus001 adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner
[05:07] <klip> Znort: It'r form Blizzard, too, should work somehow.
[05:07] <kemik> Znort: i think Cedega works good with WoW
[05:08] <gorski> can somebody help me with sound configuration, please!?
[05:08] <balzac> i installed gcc 3.4, gcc 3.4 base and cpp 3.4
[05:08] <Znort> klip: Thank you. Some people seem to have succeeded in it
[05:08] <Znort> It should work with wine
[05:08] <_jason> lukus001, you aren't a part of the admin group which is why you have no superuser privileges
[05:08] <kemik> tharglet: so do i... :)
[05:08] <balzac> i did CC=gcc-3.4 , Export CC
[05:08] <_jason> lukus001, is this the user account you created during install?
[05:08] <balzac> then tried to compile the driver
[05:08] <balzac> no dice!
[05:08] <lukus001> _jason, yeah
[05:08] <tharglet> kemik, if I ever dualboot my system, I'll get my sudo to behave
[05:08] <woland_> anyone got a guide to installing vmware on ubuntu?
[05:09] <Lil-Abner> Thanks, all. What irc program is bundled with ubuntu? I'm using mIRC on this machine and kopete on the linux machine.
[05:09] <_jason> lukus001, we're going to have to add your user back into the admin group
[05:09] <tharglet> woland_, lol, I've done that the other way around....
[05:09] <balzac> xchat
[05:09] <tharglet> Lil-Abner, xchat
[05:09] <_jason> lukus001, are you able to get superuser privileges some other way so that we can edit /etc/group?  or will we have to boot up a livecd?
[05:09] <zAo^> woland_ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare?highlight=%28vmware%29  ....
[05:09] <zAo^> wiki people..
[05:09] <pfarmer> tharglet: the list of packages - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7006
[05:10] <kemik> _jason: you can boot in recovery/safe mode from grub ... no need for the livecd i think
[05:10] <lukus001> _jason not a clue i'm afiad?
[05:10] <Lil-Abner> Thank you, tharglet. I'm going to go offline, thanks again for the information and I look forward to being a part of the ubuntu family! bye
[05:10] <_jason> kemik, what are you supposed to do when it prompts for a root password?  I never figured that out
[05:10] <kemik> _jason: dont think it prompts for a password.. at least it didnt here
[05:11] <woland_> thanks zAo^
[05:11] <_jason> kemik, oh, maybe I missed a setting.  If you can guide lukus001 throught it, that would work.  otherwise we can just use the livecd lukus001
[05:11] <tharglet> pfarmer, how can I get the packages? Or install them?
[05:12] <kemik> _jason: cant really guide him thru, sitting in windows now cus i have to record stuff :|
[05:12] <tharglet> pfarmer, Thought it was just something like apt-get <fname>
[05:12] <pfarmer> tharglet: apt-get install <packagename> - but you don't want all those packages
[05:12] <_jason> lukus001, okay, can you boot your computer up from the livecd and then rejoin us here in irc?
[05:12] <kemik> _jason: so go with the livecd approach =) (or just try booting up in safe mode, it's an option in the grub-menu)
[05:12] <zAo^> gnomefreak https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight3?highlight=%28flight%29  huh??
[05:12] <pfarmer> tharglet: you need to be clearer on what this code does so someone can tell which thread.h you need
[05:12] <tharglet> pfarmer, I'm gonna get the c++ header one
[05:12] <gnomefreak> hold on ill look
[05:12] <lukus001> _jason i dont have a live cd, only the normal install one (i burnt the cd myself
[05:13] <lukus001> _jason so id have to download it first
[05:13] <tharglet> pfarmer, the cpp header should do the job
[05:13] <_jason> lukus001, ok
[05:13] <tharglet> pfarmer, couldn't find package :'(
[05:13] <gorski> can somebody help me with sound configuration, please!?
[05:14] <lukus001> _jason but, on the other hand i want to dual boot with a second installation of linux, ubuntu again - if i did that and set it up properly.. lol i could edit the other partition?
[05:14] <pfarmer> tharglet: do a "sudo apt-get install libsigc++-dev
[05:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> gorski: What's the problem?
[05:14] <_jason> lukus001, yeah probably
[05:14] <kemik> what's the package called that customizes GiMP to behave like Photoshop `
[05:14] <kemik> ?
[05:14] <veriz> a2enmod fcgid
[05:14] <gorski> i can get my mic working
[05:14] <tharglet> pfarmer, Tried that one too :(
[05:14] <veriz> how i can disable a2enmod fcgid?
[05:14] <siliconwizzard> I'm trying to download and install GDM themes off the web. I save the tar.gz files and when I try and install them I get "INVALID FILE FORMAT" can anybody help? thx
[05:14] <kemik> gorski: state your question
[05:15] <kemik> gorski: try "alsamixer" and enable the 2nd mic-option
[05:15] <lukus001> _jason, do you know how to install a second linux OS?
[05:15] <tharglet> pfarmer, am I a repository short or something?
[05:15] <_jason> lukus001, I have no experience doing it, sry
[05:15] <lukus001> _jason okay, np ty for your help
[05:15] <gnomefreak> zAo^, they are not added to server yet but looks like this week sometime
[05:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lukus001: I do.
[05:15] <tonyyarusso> I'm having some trouble with suspend, where it never gets all the way sleeping and comes back immediatly.  # tail /var/log/acpid mentions grep: /proc/acpi/fan/*/state: No such file or directory.  What should I do?
[05:16] <gorski> what are the settings in gstreamer-properties, please?
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> (/proc/acpi/fan/ is empty.)
[05:16] <kemik> lukus001: what's the point of dualbooting 2 ubuntus? =X
[05:16] <zAo^> gnomefreak discovered that too :) thnx
[05:16] <lukus001> PuMpErNiCkLe, can you explain how its done then please?
[05:16] <pfarmer> tharglet: pastebin you /etc/apt/source.list
[05:16] <gnomefreak> yw Zanoi
[05:16] <lukus001> kemik, one for experiment /unstable
[05:16] <gnomefreak> zAo^,
[05:17] <xiaogil> how to download a directory using wget ?
[05:17] <gorski> i tryed the second mic, but the problem stays
[05:17] <lukus001> kemik, i have to use the pc for work so messing up my main OS is a no no
[05:17] <xiaogil> or how to download all files for which the name begin with abc* ?
[05:17] <xiaogil> with wget
[05:17] <gnomefreak> are they going to change our bugzilla link to foward us to launchpad?
[05:17] <pfarmer> tharglet: libsigc++-dev is in universe
[05:17] <_jason> lukus001, I'm gonna go grab breakfast.  If you get to edit /etc/group before I return:  just add your username to the end of the line that begins with 'admin'.  The syntax will be clear.
[05:17] <Ng> _jason: !
[05:18] <lukus001> _jason, okay - thank you very much
[05:18] <kemik> lukus001: i c :)
[05:18] <Ng> what's wrong with "adduser someusername somegroupname"?
[05:18] <Ng> editing /etc/passwd and /etc/group by hand is never a good plan
[05:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lukus001: unmounted ext3 filesystems can be resized, I believe (I keep a spare partition so I don't have to go through that) so when you go to install the new linux os, resize a partition to make room and install on the free space you just made.
[05:18] <_jason> Ng, he has no sudo access
[05:18] <siliconwizzard> I'm trying to download and install GDM themes off the web. I save the tar.gz files and when I try and install them I get "INVALID FILE FORMAT" can anybody help? thx
[05:18] <tharglet> pfarmer, universe????
[05:18] <Ng> _jason: reboot into recovery mode then
[05:18] <kemik> lukus001: if you reboot, when the grub-thing appears, choose so you can boot into safemode, it should give you a rootprompt
[05:19] <pixelfairy> im starting to think some things (nvidia drivers, packages that change quickly) are better left out of package systems. gaim used to be like that, but 1.5 been pretty stable
[05:19] <kemik> lukus001: from there, edit your /etc/group as _jason said
[05:19] <_jason> Ng, if you can walk him through that, go for it.  I've always gotten a prompt for a root password when i tried it
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> siliconwizzard, How were you trying to install them?
[05:19] <tharglet> pfarmer, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7007
[05:19] <siliconwizzard> theme manager
[05:19] <Ng> _jason: you only get prompted for a root password if you've set a root password
[05:19] <_jason> Ng, I've set and disabled it
[05:19] <siliconwizzard> pref>theme
[05:20] <lukus001> PuMpErNiCkLe, when i installed this current ver of ubuntu, i left an empty a partition with no mount name ? what name would i ahve to give it (for example my current one got call "/")
[05:20] <tonyyarusso> siliconwizzard, Do it through Admin>Login Screen.
[05:20] <lukus001> Kemik, i go try that in a few mins, ty
[05:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lukus001: For a new linux install, it would also be '/'.
[05:20] <Ng> _jason: well you either founnd a bug or disabled it incorrectly then
[05:20] <kemik> lukus001: np
[05:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lukus001: That's how the new install will view it... if you want to mount that partition in another os, you can set it to be whatever you want.
[05:21] <lukus001> PuMpErNiCkLe, ah, so it wont conflict with my current one?
[05:21] <_jason> Ng, I just did sudo passwd -l root
[05:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lukus001: nope :)
[05:21] <gorski> what are the settings in gstreamer-properties, please?
[05:21] <_jason> Ng, but I'll check in a little while to be sure
[05:21] <lukus001> PuMpErNiCkLe, thank you also =)
[05:21] <pfarmer> tharglet: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7008
[05:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lukus001: np :)
[05:21] <lukus001> Thanks everyone, ill vee ofline for a while - hope it all goes well
[05:21] <lukus001> be*
[05:21] <veriz> can anyone plz help me: i enabled this: a2enmod fcgid but how i can disable it ?:S
[05:22] <pfarmer> tharglet: then go "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install libsigc++-dev"
[05:22] <tharglet> pfarmer, Ahh, I see 2 commented out repositories
[05:22] <takedown_> veriz: that is kernel module?
[05:22] <tharglet> pfarmer, I need those
[05:22] <veriz> takedown_: apache2
[05:23] <takedown_> veriz: just delete apache if u dont need it
[05:23] <veriz> i just needed the command a2dismod :D nvm
[05:24] <tonyyarusso> You know what would be kind of slick?  If mousing over the little workspace icons and holding there for a second would show a thumbnail preview of that workspace.
[05:25] <tuskernini> hi there all
[05:26] <tuskernini> i was wandering if anyone can help me sort out my sound problem... i can not hear the sound... but it looks like it plays... (not muted) cant record eather
[05:26] <LostFrog> Ubuntu takes a long time to install on a G3 300.
[05:26] <Znort> Anybody knows what's the minimum disk space for ubuntu 5.10?
[05:26] <tuskernini> i would gues... 300 is not that fast... i installed it on a 450 and it also went slow
[05:27] <mjr> Znort, I believe about 2 gigs for a default desktop install
[05:27] <LostFrog> I am thinking about trying to OC it to 400.
[05:28] <tuskernini> if you only install breezy server... 500 MB
[05:28] <Znort> mjr: I tried to install it today but it needed at least 24gig :S
[05:28] <mjr> Znort, if it said it needed, it lied
[05:28] <Ng> 24?
[05:28] <tonyyarusso> Znort, 24??  There's no way.
[05:28] <Ng> impressive for something that comes on a single 700mb cd ;)
[05:28] <LostFrog> 24GB.. lol
[05:28] <MacSlow> GGreetings everybody!
[05:28] <mjr> or there was some misunderstanding
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> Znort, The official requirements are on the web site somewhere, but it's a little tricky to find them.
[05:29] <LostFrog> Maybe 24Gigabit.
[05:29] <BuZzY> how good is postnuke?
[05:29] <tharglet> pfarmer, YAY! Found the thing now, thanx :D Will let u know if the headers are in one piece in a min...
[05:29] <Znort> mjr: I said it to resize the existing partition. I gave 10gig but it said it wasnt enough :S
[05:29] <thegladiator> are there any mainframes running on ubuntu ?
[05:29] <thegladiator> or do mainframes prefer to build their own OS?
[05:30] <MacSlow> Does someone know why totem (with the gstreamer-backend) slow down after about 2-3 seconds when playing back a mpg?
[05:30] <Ng> thegladiator: they generally are architectures that ubuntu doesn't support, e.g. z390
[05:30] <kemik> totem-gstreamer is horrible
[05:30] <thegladiator> i see
[05:30] <thegladiator> MacSlow, install totem-xine ...thats prefered . are you on kde /gnome ?
[05:30] <tuskernini> install totem-xine works better than gstreamer
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> Ng: Someone told me the other day that there is a z-architecture ubuntu being devoloped by somebody.  Have you heard anything about that?
[05:31] <Ng> the gstreamer backend should be significantly better in dapper :)
[05:31] <MacSlow> thegladiator, *sigh* still xine... ok... I thought gstreamer would be "useable" by now.
[05:31] <Ng> tonyyarusso: nope, I don't really work with mainframes at all
[05:31] <kemik> Ng: lets hope so :)
[05:31] <kemik> Ng: but will gstreamer ever be able to decode .wmv / .dvd etc ?
[05:31] <thegladiator> MacSlow, try out closing other apps if you have any running , like for instance when I had karamba running in KDE totem played very slowly
[05:31] <MacSlow> thegladiator, I guess only 0.10 will bring solid usability
[05:31] <kemik> or will it infringe on patents?
[05:32] <Ng> kemik: it can decode some of them now with the ffmpeg plugin, but yes, they are improving such things in 0.10
[05:32] <MacSlow> thegladiator, I'm using gnome. I don't use kramaba
[05:32] <thegladiator> Ng, the latest gstreamer is a good ?
[05:32] <kemik> oki
[05:32] <Ng> thegladiator: I haven't used it yet myself, I'm going by reports from the developers of what they've been doing to it
[05:32] <JDigital> o hey guys
[05:32] <thegladiator> Ng, ah i see
[05:32] <Ng> one of them was fixing bugs relating to playing wmv in the totem firefox plugin the other day :)
[05:32] <JDigital> How do I make my scanner work in Linux
[05:33] <tharglet> pfarmer, were ur results pthread or thread?
[05:33] <Ng> JDigital: hopefully just plug it in and use Sane
[05:33] <JDigital> XSane isn't noticing it
[05:33] <Ng> ah
[05:33] <Ng> is it a supported model?
[05:33] <JDigital> I don't know.
[05:33] <pestilence> could somebody help me with getting opengl to work in hoary?
[05:33] <pestilence> i get this error
[05:33] <pestilence> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)
[05:33] <Ng> JDigital: try a quick google for the make, model and "linux"
[05:33] <pestilence> but im not using an nvidia card....i have an intel 855GM
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> :) how about ' what model scanner is it?'
[05:34] <JDigital> unsupported :(
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> and a http://www.sane-project.org/   check.
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> could be sane support is being worked on.
[05:34] <pestilence> and i use the i810 driver
[05:34] <tharglet> pfarmer, (Know searches often don't distinguish one preceded by a p, and the other one not)
[05:35] <JDigital> http://www.sane-project.org/unsupported/umax-astraslim-6000.html
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> Hmm...can't seem to get to the profile manager after installing Firefox 1.5.  Anyone know why?
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> JDigital,  :(
[05:36] <pestilence> tonyyarusso: what about "firefox -ProfileManager" ?
[05:36] <tonyyarusso> pestilence, Just opens FF normally.
[05:36] <pestilence> tonyyarusso: that's all i've got ;)
[05:36] <matt__> I am wondering how to run a certain command prompt on startup
[05:37] <Ng> matt__: what kind of command? is it something that should be run by the system or something you want started when you log in?
[05:37] <tonyyarusso> pestilence, All right.
[05:37] <pfarmer> tharglet: thread.h not pthread.h - did the c++ dev package not help?
[05:37] <matt__> i need to run apachectl stop and then apache -k start
[05:37] <tonyyarusso> matt__, Gnome, another wm/de or terminal only?
[05:38] <tharglet> pfarmer, after installing, the compile failed, and then a search on my HD didn't show anything new
[05:38] <cello_rasp> I'm trying to mount a samba share via bash for a user, yet because mount can only be run by root, the mount point (normally owned by the user) is read-only. "mount -t smbfs //ixion/public /home/thomas/Desktop/public -o username=public,password=public,fmask=755,dmask=755,rw" .. how do i give the user permission to this mount point? the server side is fine with all permissions btw.
[05:38] <tharglet> pfarmer, (or any new header called thread.h)
[05:38] <Ng> matt__: that sounds like it would be best put in the apache init script
[05:38] <pfarmer> tharglet: what about /usr/include/sigc++-1.0/sigc++/thread.h
[05:39] <matt__> how do I find that?
[05:39] <Ng> matt__: which is /etc/init.d/apache - the "start" section is run on boot, you can just change it to use -k straight away
[05:39] <LostFrog> Has anyone had chroot segfault during installation?
[05:39] <LostFrog> I'm on a B&W G3 300.
[05:39] <tonyyarusso> I also seem to have messed up the link to the old firefox executable.
[05:39] <afd_> hi! I've got a problem. I can't connect to other computers in the local windows network from nautilus. When I got to Network > Windows Networks, that's empty, and there are entries like smb-workgroup-LAPTOP in the window that lists the network connections, but they won't work (I get a message which I can paste, if needed). Any idea on what to do? Btw, I'm using dapper
[05:40] <tonyyarusso> Is there a way to access the FF Profile Manager from within the FF window?
[05:40] <Joselo> hello
[05:40] <Ng> afd_: maybe that stuff is just broken in dapper now - you're running an unstable version, you should expect that ;)
[05:40] <pfarmer> tharglet: have you got libc6-dev installed
[05:41] <bshumate> cello_rasp: use the uid and/or gid options with your -o switch.  see man smbmount for more info
[05:41] <tharglet> pfarmer, hmm, it seems to be there. don't know
[05:41] <Joselo> I report a bug in launch pad... and also attach a patch for the solution... anyone can tellme which is de procedure to do a "Formal" anoucement
[05:41] <_jason> tonyyarusso, I don't think so
[05:41] <afd_> Ng, not all the times dapper can be blamed, and if it's to be blamed then it's a bug that should be fixed. I want to know what would it take to fix it, or if it's really a bug, to enter it in the bugtracker
[05:41] <tharglet> pfarmer, says so
[05:42] <matt__> is it easy to edit the apache init script?
[05:42] <pfarmer> tharglet: what command do you use to compile the code?
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> It's also going to a new $ in gnome-terminal while firefox is open, rather than keeping the terminal hung with messages during the ff session, if that's any indication.
[05:43] <afd_> Why isn't the smb:/// protocol showing anything?
[05:44] <gnomefreak> pfarmer, to compile a code takes a few commands not just 1
[05:44] <Ng> afd_: this is the wrong place to ask really, you'd be better off reporting a bug I guess
[05:44] <tharglet> pfarmer, I'm using gcc
[05:44] <afd_> Ng, thanks
[05:44] <pfarmer> gnomefreak: what about "gcc -o hello hello.c" ?
[05:44] <[cro] smiley> hi all
[05:45] <pfarmer> tharglet: pastebin the command/commands for me
[05:45] <_jason> tonyyarusso, you followed the wiki?
[05:45] <gnomefreak> pfarmer, ok reg code here try this gcc hello.c -o hello
[05:45] <imachine> hello.
[05:45] <tharglet> pfarmer, the headers are in the wrong folder(s) really
[05:45] <[cro] smiley> problem: dvd playback is too slow in totem. question: what to do?
[05:45] <gnomefreak> im assuming eitehr version as long as they say the same thats for C atleast
[05:45] <narles> hey how come when i try to edit mp4 files in amarok.. it says taglib claims it is not writable... how can i change this?????
[05:45] <pestilence> is there a possibility that hoary's Xorg got polluted with the proprietary nvidia drivers??
[05:45] <tharglet> pfarmer, If the thing will like it in the end....
[05:46] <tylerp> hi
[05:46] <pestilence> i seem to be having an error associated with the proprietary nvidia drivers, and i've never installed those.
[05:46] <lukus001> hey guys it's me
[05:46] <tylerp> sup guys
[05:46] <tylerp> u
[05:46] <tylerp> hi there
[05:46] <[cro] smiley> why is dvd playback in totem so slow?
[05:46] <tharglet> pfarmer, it's just gcc with an argument of a c file and an object file, n output name
[05:46] <Katie^> anyone good with crossover?
[05:46] <lukus001> in etc/groups - under "adm" lukus001 is already set there? so how come synaptic doesnt work?
[05:47] <arrinmurr> pestilence: what kind of problem?
[05:47] <tharglet> pfarmer, The output is it can't find the header file
[05:47] <pestilence> arrinmurr: i get this error
[05:47] <Zen> What do I have to do to get WMV9 support?
[05:47] <_jason> tonyyarusso, what does "readlink -f `which firefox`" say?
[05:47] <Zen> in totem
[05:47] <pestilence> arrinmurr: Symbol __glXgetActiveScreen from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved!
[05:47] <Katie^> also, how do i install themes?
[05:47] <pestilence> arrinmurr: followed by (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)
[05:47] <Katie^> i downloaded nuvola
[05:47] <pfarmer> tharglet: ok - put a "-I/usr/include/sigc++-1.0/sigc++/" after the gcc and before the <infile> part
[05:47] <Katie^> but dont know how to install it
[05:47] <_jason> ubotu, tell Katie^ about themes
[05:47] <drfoz> anyone know if there is a way to remove region codes from dvd's?
[05:47] <tharglet> pfarmer, you know those packages u listed.... is it possible to preview the contents?
[05:48] <flogiston> I'm thinking of getting my self a wireless mouse. Will a microsoft IntelliMouse work at once?
[05:48] <dooglus> flogiston: should do
[05:48] <Katie^> yu
[05:48] <Katie^> *ty
[05:48] <pfarmer> ther
[05:48] <_jason> flogiston, it will probably work but not with all the buttons right away
[05:48] <pfarmer> tharglet: yeah - you need apt-file installed
[05:48] <tharglet> pfarmer, OK
[05:49] <pfarmer> tharglet: did the "-I" not work?
[05:49] <flogiston> Okey.
[05:49] <tharglet> pfarmer, I want to see if there is a "correct" install
[05:49] <lukus001> _jason, where in etc/groups did i need my username put?
[05:49] <tharglet> pfarmer, Then I'll fiddle around with includes
[05:49] <pfarmer> tharglet: ?
[05:49] <flogiston> Do i have to sett the buttonfunktion fore every program by hand?
[05:49] <narles> hey how come when i try to edit mp4 files in amarok.. it says taglib claims it is not writable... how can i change this?????
[05:49] <_jason> lukus001, at the end of the line that begins with 'admin'
[05:49] <alphy> how do get the plug in to watch videos on Firefox?
[05:50] <arrinmurr> pestilence: hmm. have you looked in the ubuntu forums?
[05:50] <_jason> alphy, you should have the totem plugin, but I recommend the mpalyerplug-in
[05:50] <lukus001> _jason, i have one called "adm" but my user name is already on the list
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> _jason, Yes, I followed the wiki (and did so successfully in the past), readlink -f 'which firefox' says nothing.
[05:51] <_jason> tonyyarusso, those aren't single quotes, they are backticks `
[05:51] <pestilence> arrinmurr: sort of.  i'm thinking maybe the nvidia-glx packages that are apparently installed on my machine might be the problem
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> _jason, Ah.
[05:51] <pestilence> arrinmurr: not sure how they got on here.
[05:51] <alphy> _jason, that will allow me to view videos?  it just keeps showing a puzzle piece and says click to download plugin
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> _jason, /opt/firefox/firefox
[05:51] <_jason> alphy, what type of video is it
[05:52] <_jason> tonyyarusso, okay and what happens when you do 'firefox -profilemanager'?
[05:52] <alphy> _jason, I have no idea.
[05:52] <arrinmurr> pestilence: maybe you could just try to remove them then. are there "nvidia" entries in your xorg.conf?
[05:52] <tonyyarusso> _jason, Firefox opens normally.
[05:53] <pestilence> arrinmurr: no.  i think i must have installed the restricted modules for some reason, and they got pulled in by accident
[05:53] <_jason> alphy, mplayer plays everything for me.  I would recommend that you try it.  Other than that, some people are using flash to embed videos in their site now too.  So you may want to install that.
[05:53] <_jason> tonyyarusso, did you close all instances of firefox before doing that?
[05:53] <smurfette> I have been trying to install ubunto on a pc that has an older HP pavillion motherboard in it and it keeps saying that it wont sync attempt to kill kernel
[05:53] <smurfette> anyone know how to help
[05:53] <alphy> _jason, it might be flash, how do I get that?  also, could it be shockwave?  and do you know how I get that?
[05:54] <_jason> ubotu, tell alphy about flash
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> _jason, No.  Thought I had, but here's one open on another workspace.  Is that necessary for the profilemanager, I suppose?
[05:54] <tylerp> HI THERE
[05:54] <_jason> alphy, unfortunately there is now way to get shockwave on linux
[05:54] <flogiston> _jason, do you think it will be a problem to set the other buttons on the mouse?
[05:54] <_jason> tonyyarusso, yes
[05:54] <tylerp> FUKERS
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> _jason, Ah, there we are!
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> _jason, Thanks.
[05:54] <tylerp> IIIIii
[05:54] <alphy> _jason, okay
[05:54] <tharglet> hmm, gone to doing the -I way, it's getting a little confused
[05:54] <_jason> flogiston, I don't know about that particular mouse, you should scour the forums.  I have an mx1000 with 12 buttons working perfectly but it took some research.
[05:55] <flogiston> _Jason: thanks
[05:55] <tharglet> In file included from server.c:8:
[05:55] <tharglet> /usr/include/sigc++-1.0/sigc++/thread.h:21:26: error: sigc++config.h: No such file or directory
[05:55] <pestilence> yup, removing the nvidia-glx* packages and nvidia-kernel-* fixed it
[05:55] <tharglet> pfarmer ^^^
[05:56] <tharglet> pfarmer (ty for the help btw :))
[05:57] <pfarmer> tharglet: I've come as far as I can with you - I don't know which thread.h file you need, as I said before there are a few thread.h files kicking about in different packages - and as I don't know what the code you're writting does I can't really help anymore
[05:57] <tharglet> pfarmer, I'm doing mutex_lock
[05:57] <tharglet> pfarmer, under C
[05:57] <pfarmer> tharglet: you didn't want the c++ stuff then :)
[05:58] <tharglet> pfarmer, Tis annoying n I don't know what all the packages are. And apt-file doesn't seem to want to list the files
[05:59] <tharglet> pfarmer, there is a C one kicking about, but the only place I know where it is is the Fedora Core 3 systems at uni
[06:00] <pfarmer> tharglet: apt-file list libsigc++-dev   <--- will list the files in the libsigc++-dev package
[06:00] <tharglet> pfarmer, :( no luck
[06:01] <pfarmer> tharglet: did you do a "sudo apt-file update"
[06:02] <[cro] smiley> why is playback so slow in totem when playing DVD's?
[06:02] <skaja> when will thay start offering ubuntu dvd via shipit?
[06:02] <tharglet> pfarmer, oops, it just asked for the CD
[06:02] <wogi_> good morrrning ubuntuians!
[06:03] <pfarmer> tharglet: also can you pastebin your code?
[06:03] <skaja> hello qoggie
[06:03] <tharglet> pfarmer, hmm, the updater is off one one
[06:03] <[cro] smiley> how to fix totem DVD playback?
[06:04] <pfarmer> tharglet: comment out the top line in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:04] <nanda> hi, I am trying to install some hp drivers and am getting some problems compiling the software
[06:04] <nanda> "configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[06:04] <nanda> "
[06:04] <nanda> any ideas?
[06:04] <skaja> download the newer verson of totum
[06:04] <tharglet> pfarmer, pressing enter did the trick, didn't think it was still mounted
[06:04] <tharglet> pfarmer, Well, probably went for another repository
[06:05] <pfarmer> tharglet: also can you pastebin your code?
[06:05] <alphy> anyone play torcs in here?  I need help running the game
[06:05] <tharglet> pfarmer, yay, list now fires
[06:05] <pfarmer> :)
[06:05] <_jason> nanda, have you installed build-essential
[06:06] <nanda> _jason: I don't think so (this is a fresh install)
[06:06] <nanda> I'll do that now
[06:07] <mirak> hi
[06:07] <alphy> _jason, you play torcs?
[06:08] <tharglet> pfarmer, going to now
[06:08] <_jason> alphy, nope, not even sure what it is
[06:08] <nanda> I've installed build-essential now, but its giving me another error: configure: error: "cannot find libjpeg support"
[06:09] <paladinew> what's the best VPN application for ubuntu ?
[06:09] <apokryphos> nanda: what are you trying to compile?
[06:09] <Sunbug> Can anyone help me out here? Trying to build a package fro a tar.gz file.. Unpacked the file, entered the folder, typing dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -us and getting a bunck of deps.. How can i make the system retrive the deps?
[06:09] <alphy> _jason, it's a racing game.  I can get it to work right
[06:09] <_jason> nanda, you are installing drivers for your printer?
[06:09] <apokryphos> Sunbug: sudo apt-get build-dep application
[06:10] <gnomefreak> anyone find any dapper art yet?
[06:10] <nanda> I downloaded hplip drivers for my printer and need to compile them
[06:10] <alphy> Anyone Play TORCS?
[06:10] <nanda> I am following instructions from: http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/install.php#download_install
[06:10] <_jason> nanda, so ubuntu doesn't recognize your printer?
[06:10] <lukus001> Can someone help me sort out my root password problem, it seams to be non responsive
[06:10] <nanda> _jason: nope
[06:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> alphy: No, but I could test it...
[06:10] <tharglet> pfarmer, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7011
[06:10] <nanda> unless I am doing something wrong (its a printer/scanner combo)
[06:11] <_jason> nanda, I think you should read other user's experiences first, then proceed with compiling those drivers
[06:11] <_jason> ubotu, tell nanda about printing
[06:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> alphy: Are you using the repository version, or the latest from the site?
[06:11] <trincamckee> i there
[06:11] <alphy> PuMpErNiCkLe, repository
[06:11] <trincamckee> *hi
[06:12] <pfarmer> tharglet: try changing "#include <thread.h>" to "#include <pthread.h>" and see what happens
[06:12] <trincamckee> how do i create a symbolic link
[06:12] <tharglet> pfarmer, That's the wrong header methinks - it's not in there
[06:12] <_jason> trincamckee, ln -s
[06:12] <nanda> _jason: thanks for the links, I will check that out
[06:12] <wogi> trincamckee: be careful tho don't put the arguments in the wrong order ;)
[06:12] <alphy> PuMpErNiCkLe, it shuts down when I start a race
[06:13] <tharglet> pfarmer, hmm, that header seems to have gone walkies
[06:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> alphy: k, I'll watch out for that
[06:13] <tharglet> pfarmer, Was in there earlier
[06:13] <alphy> PuMpErNiCkLe, if you run it from the terminal it gives me an error but, I don't know how to fix it
[06:13] <tharglet> pfarmer, server.c:13: error: syntax error before mutex
[06:13] <tharglet> server.c:13: warning: data definition has no type or storage class
[06:14] <Sunbug> apokryphos: Hm. What do i input as application? The tar.gz file?
[06:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> alphy: In case it works for me, could you paste the error?
[06:14] <apokryphos> Sunbug: I'm really wondering if you should be building a deb =)
[06:14] <alphy> PuMpErNiCkLe, yah, I'll get it ready
[06:14] <apokryphos> Sunbug: that command will try to resolve the depends of a given application. Is that what you're trying to do?
[06:16] <alphy> what is the paste bin's address?  I can't remember
[06:16] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[06:16] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:16] <pfarmer> tharglet: ok - change mutex_t to pthread_mutex_t - also take a copy of the code before making too many changes :)
[06:16] <lukus001> can somone help me with my root password.   It's not working :/
[06:17] <tharglet> pfarmer, there isn't much difference with it since earlier :)
[06:17] <wogi> lulus001: did you actually set one? :)
[06:17] <Sunbug> apokryphos: My goal is to buil vlc som source to get mp3 encoding support. The docs say i should just run the dpkg-builcpackage command, but i get looong list of deps. Most dev packs. Never played very much with debian/ubuntu. More like the fedora/redhat guy. :P
[06:17] <skaja> root is turned off
[06:17] <Sunbug> build
[06:17] <lukus001> wogi: durring installation i di, yes
[06:17] <skaja> but you can turn it back on
[06:17] <wogi> lukus001: You probably set a password for your user..
[06:17] <Katie^> omg
[06:17] <apokryphos> Sunbug: sudo apt-get build-dep vlc   to resolve all build dependencies
[06:17] <Katie^> itunes keeps breaking
[06:17] <Katie^> FFS
[06:17] <gnomefreak> lukus001, did you end up adding urself to the sudoer list?
[06:17] <wogi> lukus001: What root-y thing do you want to do? just "sudo <thatcommand>"
[06:17] <nanda> according to the wiki my printer should be supported (mine is a hp psc 1420, the 1410 is listed as supported), does this mean that it should work "out of the box?"
[06:18] <wogi> lukus001: and then try the password you entered..
[06:18] <student> need help configuring iptables
[06:18] <_jason> nanda, make sure your printer is on and plugged in and reboot
[06:18] <lukus001> wogi sudo, synaptic etc.. none of them will accept my pass
[06:18] <nanda> _jason: ok, does it always need to be connected at boot?
[06:18] <alphy> PuMpErNiCkLe, here is my problems http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7012
[06:18] <gnomefreak> lukus001, try user password see if that works
[06:18] <lukus001> gnomefreak: my username is already on most of etc/groups... i.e. the admin part that i was told to add it to
[06:18] <_jason> nanda, I don't think so, only for it to detect it.  You may just be able to go to admin -> printing and add it.  You can try that
[06:19] <lukus001> gnomefrewak, their the same password
[06:19] <Katie^> can anyone here tell me how to send music from itunes onto my mobile phone
[06:19] <student> these commands to not work:  modprobe iptable_nat, echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward, echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[06:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> alphy: Seems to work for me... although I can't deal with the crazy camera angle changes o_O
[06:19] <tharglet> pfarmer, WOO! Thanx :D Working now I believe :D Would have never guessed that
[06:19] <nanda> _jason: ok, I will try, thanks for the help
[06:19] <skaja> i'm going to do a howto about turning on root in ubuntu
[06:19] <pfarmer> tharglet: np
[06:19] <_jason> skaja, why
[06:20] <_jason> skaja, the wiki already explains how and there is no use to it
[06:20] <ZooG> Skaja, sounds good actually
[06:20] <bur[n] er> skaja: i think about 20+ already exist
[06:20] <alphy> PuMpErNiCkLe, huh, did you look at my paste?
[06:20] <tharglet> pfarmer, The stupid thing is that it probably says pthread_mutex_t on the notes.....
[06:20] <skaja> oh :-p
[06:20] <pfarmer> tharglet: LOL
[06:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> alphy: Yeah, I'm reading it now...
 I said "dhcp" and the tech support guy started to cry and go "I hate my job I hate my job I hate my job"
[06:20] <student> why does this command not update my iptables?  iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 8080
[06:21] <ulaas> great my dvd drive ate my starwars disc
[06:21] <_jason> student, you might need sudo, but I don't know anything about the syntax
[06:21] <student> _jason: i'm using sudo
[06:21] <Ng> student: you probably need to put that rule in PREROUTING, not OUTPUT
[06:21] <skaja> sudo sucks :-(
[06:21] <lucasvo> skaja: why?
[06:21] <Ng> skaja: no it doesn't :)
[06:21] <alphy> PuMpErNiCkLe, okay well, if you have any idea's let me know.
[06:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> alphy: How are you launching the game, generally?
[06:22] <student> Ng:  I tried PREROUTING as well.  In either case, when I type iptables -L, the rule does not show up at all.
[06:22] <_jason> skaja, I find it a lot easier than having to su to root
[06:22] <Ng> there is no need for a howto, ubotu knows all about it
[06:22] <Ng> !root
[06:22] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:22] <Ng> student: iptables -t nat -L
[06:22] <ZooG> Has anyone got a good simple Howto on getting Java runtime to work in Firefox?
[06:22] <Ng> student: "iptables -L" is the equivalent of "iptables -t mangle -L"
[06:22] <alphy> PuMpErNiCkLe, well, i've tried running the sh file and I've tried running it from the terminal.
[06:23] <skaja> oh god java in fire fox ;-(
[06:23] <ZooG> hehe
[06:23] <_jason> skaja, what about it?
[06:23] <Ng> also easy
[06:23] <Ng> see the Sun Java section of the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[06:23] <skaja> its a pain in the butt
[06:23] <ZooG> I got everything else working more or less...
[06:23] <Ng> that will lead to firefox java working fine
[06:23] <_jason> skaja, just use a javedeb
[06:23] <Ng> skaja: it's really not
[06:23] <student> Ng: so why is dansguardian not working then?
[06:23] <_jason> ubotu, tell skaja about javadeb
[06:23] <skaja> i never got it to work
[06:24] <Ng> student: erk, I said mangle, I meant filter. As for dansguardian, I have no idea, I've never used it
[06:24] <mula`> n'abend
[06:24] <pixelfairy> how do you bypass X11 on boot up? (is it a certain run level?)
[06:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> alphy: From the terminal, do you cd anywhere first, or just write 'torcs'?
[06:25] <skaja> oh i do have a linux question how do i reinstall grub with out reinstalling ubuntu?
[06:25] <alphy> PuMpErNiCkLe, just typing torcs, I'm fairly new to Linux so if I'm doing something wrong let me know.  you won't hurt my feelings
[06:26] <RoNaLdO-BR> ubuntu
[06:26] <_jason> ubotu, tell skaja about grub
[06:26] <LostFrog> mmmm.. Grub
[06:26] <skaja> i know about grub
[06:27] <RoNaLdO-BR> ubotu
[06:27] <pixelfairy> ubotu: tell pixelfairy about runlevels
[06:27] <skaja> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows thanks
[06:27] <skaja> sh you are a dork
[06:27] <pixelfairy> ubotu: tell pixelfairy about init
[06:27] <LostFrog> Is sh bashful?
[06:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> alphy: No, that's what I did.. occasionally it can cause problems, but this doesn't seem to be the csae here.
[06:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> *case
[06:28] <OneSeventeen> how do I send the contents of a text file to someone using the mail command?
[06:28] <pixelfairy> LostFrog: its probably a sym link if thats what your asking, but bash will act like sh if you call it like that
[06:28] <alphy> PuMpErNiCkLe, I don't know, I guess I just can't play the game
[06:28] <RickKnight> tolstoy: You here?
[06:28] <LostFrog> pixelfairy: I was joking about the '/sh' nick.
[06:28] <Katie^> how do you "rip and index" mp3's on itunes
[06:28] <skaja> THK J
[06:28] <LostFrog> I mean '\sh'
[06:29] <student> Ng: if I have that in my iptables, then how come I can access the Internet?
[06:30] <tharglet> Why is it always the piece of paper u want is the one to seemingly spontaneously combust?
[06:31] <tharglet> (the one that happens to have the pthread_mutex notes...)
[06:31] <tech9iner> moin all..
[06:31] <gorski> my xchat does not list servers on the start, help, please!
[06:31] <tech9iner> anyone know of http/ftp/network installation procedure and sources for kubuntu perchance please?.. thanks..
[06:32] <Sionide> what the
[06:32] <Sionide> 'buntu is showing updates to be installed, i let it install them and it still shows :s
[06:32] <skaja> install them again lol
[06:32] <tech9iner> gorski: just check the box to show servers on startup mate in the servers dialogue ;[] 
[06:33] <Frafra> hi all
[06:33] <gorski> the box isn't checked!
[06:34] <Frafra> where is my bluetooth-usb adapter in /dev?
[06:34] <Sionide> skaja, i have
[06:34] <mwe> Frafra: check dmesg
[06:34] <Sionide> skaja, done it twice now and it won't go away
[06:35] <Frafra> mwe: dmesg | grep Bluetooth isn't intresting
[06:36] <mwe> Frafra: if it's recognized it should be there somewhere.
[06:36] <gorski> help.
[06:36] <gorski> is that a bug?
[06:37] <Frafra> mwe: yes, but i don't know where :D
[06:37] <skaja> how can i chane the boot order from linux windows to windows linux
[06:38] <tharglet> urgh, now my locks are hanging
[06:38] <wiiiiiq> Kde bolo tam bolo... kde sa piesok lial a voda sypala....
[06:38] <LostFrog> skaja: edit menu.lst?
[06:38] <Sionide> skaja, edit /etc/grub/menu.lst ?
[06:38] <skaja> ok thanks
[06:38] <Sionide> is it /etc/grub? it might be /boot/grub, i can't remember
[06:39] <LostFrog> Usually is /boot/grub
[06:39] <_jason> wiiiiiq, language?  what country are you from?
[06:39] <_jason> Sionide, /boot I believe
[06:39] <Sionide> ah well, there you go
[06:41] <mwe> Frafra: go over the whole thing with dmesg|less it's not that long
[06:41] <green-mouse> Hi. Somebody know how i can get files trasfer log in my samba? I tried to ask on #samba but don`t get answer.
[06:41] <nanda> hi, i've been trying to set up my printer (HP PSC 1420) I added it via Admin: Printers, but ubuntu can't seem to recognise that it is connected, any ideas?
[06:41] <phyburn> What is the path to the X11 configuration file
[06:42] <ztonzy> hey, anyone familiar with webcam driver ' SPCA5xx ' which is in Breezy by default and why it always freezes system when used ?
[06:42] <sinclair> phyburn: /etc/X11/
[06:42] <_jason> nanda, is it connected to a usb?
[06:43] <phyburn> sinclair opps im on a PPC box I allways forget to cap it
[06:43] <phyburn> always make it x not X
[06:43] <phyburn> thanks
[06:43] <sinclair> phyburn: you always need to cap the X :)
[06:43] <aron> hi
[06:44] <aron> anyone know anything about rosegarden ... i've got some problems
[06:44] <nanda> _jason: yes
[06:44] <phyburn> sincalair Mac OS X you don't
[06:44] <_jason> nanda, did you reboot with it on?
[06:46] <aaron> Can anyone help with installing cedega time demo
[06:46] <nanda> _jason: yup
[06:46] <ztonzy> no one :) on the webcam driver ?
[06:46] <sinclair> anyone know where i can find the Multimedia Systems Selector?
[06:46] <aron> aaron were you in #macrumors the day before yesterday
[06:46] <sinclair> (can't start Totem)
[06:46] <mwe> you shouldn't need to reboot for usb devices
[06:46] <aaron> nope
[06:46] <nanda> maybe the printer is faulty (it is new)
[06:46] <aron> oh then someboddy else was with the same name
[06:46] <aaron> weird, asking the same question?
[06:47] <aron> aaron do you know anything about rosegarden
[06:47] <aaron> not a clue
[06:47] <aron> ok
[06:47] <_jason> nanda, how did you add it?
[06:47] <aron> DOES ANY1 KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ROSEGARDEN?
[06:47] <_jason> nanda, wasn't it in the "detected printer" setting
[06:48] <nanda> _jason: no
[06:48] <sinclair> nevermind found it
[06:48] <_jason> aron, if someone knows, they will tell you.  No need for the caps.
[06:48] <nanda> I manually picked it out from a list
[06:48] <gnomefreak> the desktop background changer is broken :(
[06:48] <aron> ok
[06:48] <aron> sorry
[06:48] <aron> il find help some were else
[06:48] <aron> se ya
[06:48] <gorski> Does TVtime Television Viewer work?
[06:48] <aaron> anyone got a few minutes to help me install cedega?
[06:48] <_jason> nanda, did you restart with it on before checking that list?
[06:49] <jon_> moin
[06:49] <nanda> _jason: no, I checked the list first
[06:50] <_jason> nanda, remove the one you put in there.  Then reboot with it on and check the list.  I think it only gets added if you boot with it on.
[06:50] <nanda> _jason: ok, I'll come back and let you know how it goes
[06:50] <_jason> nanda, k
[06:53] <aaron> when i try to install cedega_timedemo_installer, i get the message -is not a debian format archive
[06:53] <e_machinist> If I want to install kubuntu-desktop... should I remove ubuntu-desktop? All I can find to do is just install kubuntu-desktop and live in peace???
[06:54] <Ng> e_machinist: you don't need to remove ubuntu-desktop
[06:54] <_jason> e_machinist, you should be able to.  Many people do.
[06:54] <iantec> which player can i use to listen to internet radio like winamp in windows with shoutcast
[06:54] <Ng> it's just a metapacakge anyway, it doens't actually install any files
[06:54] <eksajm> hello. i need to wipe the harddrive of a computer. It needs to be overwritten several times. anyone of you know of a good "floopydisk distro" that can help me do this?
[06:54] <_jason> iantec, streamtuner
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> e_machinist, I actually had trouble figuring out HOW to remove another one if I wanted to.  (The whole thing, not the metapackage.)
[06:55] <Ng> iantec: xmms, rhythmbox, probably beep-media-player too
[06:55] <e_machinist> Ng: what I mean is, should I remove the gnome stuff since I'm downloading the kde stuff.
[06:55] <Ng> e_machinist: ah, that's up to you :)
[06:55] <lowman62> hello techy room
[06:55] <minto> e_machinist - you dont have to if you dont want to :)
[06:55] <Moratorium> I need help
[06:55] <Moratorium> I just installed ubuntu
[06:55] <e_machinist> minto: is there a way to collectively uninstall the gnome stuff, or would I have to go through and find all the gnome related packages manually?
[06:55] <lowman62> congrats good choice
[06:56] <Moratorium> and the xserver just refuses to start up
[06:56] <_jason> Moratorium, what happens
[06:56] <lowman62> Moratorium: did you do a default install or a server install?
[06:56] <minto> e_machinist - i usually go though synaptic and pick out all the stuff by hand.  not sure of a way to get *all* gnome stuff at once
[06:56] <Moratorium> I did a default install
[06:56] <e_machinist> minto: I see, well... manually it is then. haha.
[06:56] <Moratorium> Im just trying to get it working on my laptop
[06:57] <_jason> Moratorium, does it give you an error?
[06:57] <minto> Moratorium - what video chipset does the laptop have?
[06:57] <Ng> e_machinist: start with low level things like libgtk2 - that should remove all of gnome (but be very careful, it will remove things like GDM too, so make sure you install KDM and check the list carefully)
[06:57] <Moratorium> it basically says that it cant start my xserver and then goes to the prompt
[06:57] <kemik> !gimpshop
[06:57] <ubotu> kemik: Are you on ritalin?
[06:57] <eksajm> anyone know of a good distro to wipe a hdd? floopybased?
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> It would be really nice if there could be some sort of remove metapackage, that would be smart enough to uninstall all of the gnome or KDE stuff without disrupting the common parts.
[06:58] <_jason> Moratorium, you can try setting the video driver to vesa.
[06:58] <e_machinist> Ng: I will take your advice
[06:58] <Moratorium> how?
[06:58] <Ng> tonyyarusso: it's not a particularly common task and the disk space involved is tiny compared to how big disks are these days, so I'm not sure it'd be worth the effort really ;)
[06:58] <Moratorium> the live cd worked fine.....damnit
[06:58] <minto> is there a known status on the apt-get.org porting project?
[06:58] <e_machinist> Ng: KDM will be pulled in by the kubuntu-desktop metapackage won't it?
[06:58] <Ng> e_machinist: probably, but I'm not 100% sure
[06:58] <Ng> I don't use KDE ;)
[06:59] <kemik> are the forums down ?
[06:59] <e_machinist> Ng: hehe, thanks for your help all the same.
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> Ng: Well, I suppose.  Not savvy to this stuff, but how hard would it be?
[06:59] <Ng> e_machinist: np :)
[06:59] <sampan> e_machinist  yes, kdm will be.  when it installs kubuntu-desktop it will ask if you want to use kdm or continue using gdm
[06:59] <_jason> Moratorium, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and change the video driver: change "Driver "nv"" part to "Driver "vesa""
[06:59] <e_machinist> sampan: ah, I see.
[06:59] <ashyg> i installed the 2.6.15 kernel off of packages.ubuntu.com
[07:00] <Moratorium> thnx Jason, I'll try it now
[07:00] <ashyg> and now i can't do anything :(
[07:00] <Ng> tonyyarusso: I guess the "easiest" way would be to create a package that all non-common gnome packages depended on and the same for kde, so you could just remove those and force the others off. so, you'd need to submit little patches to quite a lot of packages. It's not especially hard, but it'd be quite slow and boring
[07:00] <ashyg> i think dpkg reformatted my linux drive
[07:00] <RickKnight> I still need some help with ipw2200. Anyone here able?
[07:00] <Ng> ashyg: is the old one still installed? you can probably boot into that with grub
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> Ng: I see.
[07:00] <ashyg> because when i booted up i got a lot of modprobe errors then ALERT! /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[07:00] <ashyg> Ng that's what i tried
[07:00] <ashyg> to boot in the old on
[07:00] <Ng> ashyg: you generally don't want to install unstable kernel packages though ;)
[07:01] <ashyg> Ng I needed to install it because it has suppport for my ethernet
[07:01] <lowman62> get one thing fixed and break a bunch of others LOL
[07:01] <ashyg> and now i am at a shell and my keyboard doesn't work in it
[07:01] <tonyyarusso> kemik, http://linux.suramya.com/tutorials/Install_GIMPShop/ - the deb package is listed in section 4.0 at the bottom.
[07:01] <Ng> ashyg: it's not that simple, ubuntu use some kernel patches and they are different between breezy and dapper, such that, as you've found, things get confused. You'd need to compile the 2.6.15 kernel yourself from kernel.org with the ubuntu patches from 2.6.12 applied/ported
[07:01] <lowman62> can you say fubar?
[07:02] <ubuntu> eren
[07:02] <ubuntu> eren
[07:02] <kemik> tonyyarusso:  thx, but it's fo debian and breaks the ubuntugimp :(
[07:02] <ubuntu> merhaba
[07:02] <ashyg> ng i guess i have to reformat then? is there anywhere to just download a iso of dapper?
[07:02] <ubuntu> hello
[07:02] <Switchplaces> must go today 2 alienware area51-m 7700 notebooks. price 600 for 2.  message me if interested on msn at mcsltd1@hotmail.com, aim at ogd443 or yahoo at thishastogotoday.  do have an auction set up on yahoo auctions for these.
[07:03] <ubuntu> hello my name is eren
[07:03] <Ng> ashyg: there was a test release before christmas I think, that probably had ISOs
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> kemik: Really?  Would doing it from sorce be better then?
[07:03] <ashyg> okay do you know where it can be found Ng?
[07:03] <Moratorium> Jason, I used that line and now it looks like Im in a blank text editor
[07:03] <HappyFool> yeah, please go spam elsewhere
[07:03] <HappyFool> ubuntu: hello. You're using ubuntu?
[07:03] <lowman62> geesh i thought that only happens in yahoo
[07:03] <kemik> tonyyarusso:  thinking of compiliing itt yes
[07:04] <Sionide> hey why doesn't ubuntu come with native mp3 support again?
[07:04] <Ng> ashyg: well I just googled for "ubuntu dapper iso" and the first result is a daily iso build; http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/daily/current/
[07:04] <Ng> which may or may not work today
[07:04] <Sylvain_44550> Bonjour
[07:04] <_jason> Moratorium, that would mean you have no xorg.conf.  Maybe I made a typo, it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:04] <HappyFool> Sionide: legal issues. the wiki has a RestrictedFormats page explaining
[07:04] <moodog> Evening all.
[07:04] <Sylvain_44550> Merde ! C'est le forum anglais !
[07:04] <Sionide> !mp3
[07:04] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:04] <Sionide> ah yeah course it does
[07:04] <lowman62> Sionide: http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/chap10.php#sound
[07:04] <Moratorium> no, Im definitely in that one Jason
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> kemik, http://www.plasticbugs.com/blogimg/gimp-2.2.8.tar.bz2
[07:05] <e_machinist> Only 149 packages left and I'll have kubuntu... going... strange metamorphosis... been using gnome for like... 5 years.
[07:05] <platos> flight cd 2 will work too
[07:05] <e_machinist> haha.
[07:05] <Sionide> just trying to explain to my friend
[07:05] <ashyg> thanks guys :)
[07:05] <Sionide> and failing cos i don't really know the technicalities
[07:05] <Moratorium> no, wait,
[07:05] <Moratorium> the x in mine was lower case
[07:05] <ashyg> hopefully dapper fixes this... the bugzilla entry said it does
[07:05] <_jason> Moratorium, ah :)
[07:05] <Moratorium> no
[07:06] <kemik> tonyyarusso:  think i'll compile it's dependancy and use the .deb  :)
[07:06] <Moratorium> still nothing
[07:06] <kemik> tonyyarusso:  ty tho :)
[07:06] <_jason> Moratorium, what does 'startx' say when you type it
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> kemik, Okay, good luck.
[07:06] <ubuntu> hello
[07:06] <Moratorium>  bashes startx
[07:07] <borgista> For some reason my GTK Theme is stuck, any ideas?
[07:07] <_jason> Moratorium, what do you mean?
[07:07] <e_machinist> I remember the days when a linux distro like mandrake would install KDE, GNOME, XFCE and like 10 different minor others by default.
[07:07] <borgista> The colors don't seem to change.
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> So just how hard is it to learn how to make .deb packages out of source anyway?  (For giving to someone else, to make the process easier for them.)
[07:07] <e_machinist> That was maximum disk usage, tell you what.
[07:07] <ashyg> mandrake kind of sucked
[07:07] <Moratorium> it says bash:startx: comand not found
[07:07] <_jason> Moratorium, 'apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop'
[07:07] <Switchplaces> must go today 2 alienware area51-m 7700 notebooks. price 600 for 2.  message me if interested on msn at mcsltd1@hotmail.com, aim at ogd443 or yahoo at thishastogotoday.  do have an auction set up on yahoo auctions for these.
[07:07] <ashyg> it was bloated and they made you pay to get the newest versions
[07:07] <HappyFool> e_machinist: yay for fvwm!
[07:07] <borgista> Anybody know why my GTK colors are stuck?
[07:07] <ashyg> i use fluxbox :)
[07:07] <HappyFool> !ops
[07:07] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, johndarkhorse or nalioth.
[07:07] <HappyFool> ah
[07:07] <lowman62> <--uses mandrake on 2 of 12 machines...they work flawlessly ;)
[07:07] <_jason> Moratorium, what does it say for "Installed"
[07:07] <HappyFool> sorry ops
[07:08] <e_machinist> HappyFool: heh.
[07:08] <Moratorium> it says 0.3
[07:08] <_jason> HappyFool, when the ops come they are going to want someone to kick :P
[07:08] <zazza> Am trying to use some scribus-templates but its giving me error about fonts is there a way to update the fonts
[07:08] <drunkpikachu> are the ubuntu forums down right now?
[07:09] <HappyFool> _jason: i'm busy putting donning my chainmail armour
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> _jason, There should be something like !ops --summon.
[07:09] <_jason> Moratorium, try reinstalling it, 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop'
[07:09] <eksajm> anyone know of a good distro to wipe a hdd several times? floopybased?
[07:09] <GURT> drunkpikachu: no
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> Then they come riding in looking for the trouble.
[07:09] <Seveas> HappyFool, ?
[07:09] <e_machinist> eksajm: got something to.... destroy?
[07:09] <borgista> Anybody know why my GTK theme is stuck?
[07:10] <HappyFool> Seveas: spammer who was k-lined just after i called you -- sorry
[07:10] <Seveas> HappyFool, no sweat, correct action :)
[07:10] <pal_> Hi i have problems configuring sip under windows anyone who has installed pyQt in windows who can help?
[07:10] <Moratorium> it says 0 installed 0 upgraded...etc
[07:10] <e_machinist> eksajm: you could just format the drive as FAT, then NTFS, then EXT3, then REISERFS/4... can't imagine much would be left of it after that.
[07:10] <eksajm> e_machinist, hehe yeah an old computer with many years of profit calculations and tax thigns ;')
[07:10] <e_machinist> heh.
[07:10] <eksajm> e_machinist, no i need to write over the files several times
[07:10] <Moratorium> didnt look like it did much
[07:10] <e_machinist> eksajm: that would definitely be a good thing to zero out then.
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> HappyFool, What's k-lined mean?
[07:11] <eksajm> yeah. do you know any app that i can run either from cd or floppy to do this?
[07:11] <e_machinist> eksajm: someone should know, I don't, but you would think someone would have to.
[07:11] <HappyFool> tonyyarusso: i'm not sure of the details, but basically kicked off the irc server
[07:11] <eksajm> yeha I thought so  to
[07:11] <eksajm> o
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> HappyFool, by whom/what?
[07:11] <eksajm> but no one seems to know ;/
[07:12] <HappyFool> tonyyarusso: the irc operators (those who run the servers)
[07:12] <_jason> Moratorium, how about if you remove it and then bring it back... I wish I knew what the meta-package was for all the X stuff.  'sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop', then 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> HappyFool, Ouch.
[07:12] <e_machinist> eksajm: you tried searching the internet for something like "hard drive secure erase"?
[07:12] <eksajm> how about just reinstall xorg?
[07:12] <eksajm> e_machinist, freshmeat
[07:12] <eksajm> but not anymore
[07:12] <eksajm> many apps to do it
[07:13] <eksajm> but nothing i found to run from a floppy or cd
[07:13] <_jason> Moratorium,  x-window-system-core, we can try that next if the above doesn't work :)
[07:13] <e_machinist> Hmm...
[07:13] <zeki> eren
[07:13] <zeki> hay
[07:13] <eksajm> e_machinist, wait. ill search for it on google
[07:14] <HappyFool> tonyyarusso: *shrug* it was an idiot spamming crap. freenode is quite well run, in my experience; i doubt many people are unfairly k-lined
[07:14] <eksajm> maybe i'll get lucku
[07:14] <e_machinist> eksajm: yah.
[07:14] <drunkpikachu> can anynone shed some light on why nomatter what I try to recompile my kernel with (xconfig, menuconfig, gconfig) it cannot find the required libraries even though I can go into my package manager and see that they're installed?
[07:14] <nanda> I am still not able to connect my printer
[07:15] <_jason> nanda, still doesn't show up as detected huh?
[07:15] <Moratorium> ok, it reinstalled 0.3
[07:15] <platos> drunkpikachu apt-get install make-essential linux-kernel-headers
[07:15] <platos> ?
[07:15] <nanda> _jason: nope
[07:15] <Moratorium> but i dont see the point
[07:15] <e_machinist> Oh yah, file 8 of 150. I'm on a roll.
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> HappyFool, I don't doubt it.  Never seen someone being annoying enough to get kicked off the entire server before.
[07:15] <nanda> I wish I had tested it on my windows partition before I formatted it :(
[07:15] <_jason> Moratorium, well ubuntu-desktop should pull in a lot of the stuff you are missing
[07:15] <Moratorium> ok
[07:15] <_jason> Moratorium, does 'startx' work now?
[07:15] <Stabby_McGee> 
[07:16] <Moratorium> no
[07:16] <zeki> merhaba
[07:16] <e_machinist> An interesting fact. I destroyed my Burner yesterday.... just plain ol' quit on me.
[07:16] <Moratorium> startx still gives me command not found
[07:16] <_jason> Moratorium, still 'command no found'?
[07:16] <Moratorium> yip
[07:16] <drunkpikachu> platos: couldn't find package make-essential
[07:16] <_jason> Moratorium,  sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core
[07:16] <platos> eh sorry build-essential
[07:16] <zeki> merhaba
[07:16] <drunkpikachu> ah
[07:16] <zeki> hello
[07:17] <platos> and you need to install the kernel source
[07:17] <Tuxy> Hello
[07:17] <webwolf_27> hi zeki
[07:17] <e_machinist> Moratorium: did you do a network/server install or a CD based install?
[07:17] <eksajm> e_machinist, http://dban.sourceforge.net/
[07:17] <eksajm> i added the "bootable" in the search field and found it
[07:17] <eksajm> thx anyway
[07:17] <platos> you can find that in synaptic
[07:17] <e_machinist> eksajm: did you find what you needed?
[07:17] <Astray> Anyone know why I have to reinstall the nvidia driver every time I reboot?
[07:17] <eksajm> e_machinist, think so
[07:17] <drunkpikachu> platos: my header are apparently up to date. What do you mean by installing the source?
[07:17] <nino> hallo
[07:17] <eksajm> by the name of it ;)
[07:17] <Moratorium> it say 0 upgraded and 0 installed again Jason
[07:17] <_jason> Moratorium, /usr/bin/startx, does that work?
[07:18] <platos> drunkpikachu: well you want to recompile your kernel, right?
[07:18] <drunkpikachu> indeed
[07:18] <Moratorium> no such file or directory
[07:18] <platos> drunkpikachu: you need the source for that i think
[07:18] <drunkpikachu> I have it
[07:18] <drunkpikachu> I'm in it's current directory
[07:18] <andrej_> hi; there are huge fonts whwn I type username and password in login scree -- is there any solution???
[07:18] <nino> hallo
[07:18] <platos> well did apt-get install build-essential install something?
[07:18] <_jason> Moratorium, apt-cache policy xinit | grep Installed
[07:18] <drunkpikachu> yes
[07:18] <e_machinist> Does he have apt set up to search all the repositories so he can install this stuff?
[07:18] <platos> and now it still doesnt works?
[07:19] <drunkpikachu> I'll tr one more time to be sure
[07:19] <zeki> hello
[07:19] <drunkpikachu> platos: nope, still cannot find the required dev package (in this instance the QT package)
[07:20] <platos> drunkpikachu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto?highlight=%28kernel%29 <-- compile howto, this will help you out i think
[07:20] <NAiL> I'm having problems getting a NVidia card working. It works ok with the nv driver, and I've followed the instructions to the letter. Once I switch to the nvidia driver, it won't start at all. Anyone that can help me? :)
[07:20] <gnomefreak> thats not easy to read
[07:20] <Moratorium> ok
[07:20] <Moratorium> now what?
[07:20] <_jason> Moratorium, what did it say
[07:20] <lowman62> gnmefreak: how did installing eclipse go?
[07:20] <wiiiiiq> mno sco ludia.... ?
[07:21] <gnomefreak> lowman62, havent gotten that far yet :(
[07:21] <LostFrog> SCO OpenDesktop/OpenServer?
[07:21] <Moratorium> just repeat that last command...with " " coz I cant make a |
[07:21] <gnomefreak> anjuta installed and works :)
[07:21] <Moratorium> it turns out as a # on the laptop
[07:21] <paladinew> what is the best way to setup 5.1 surround sound in 5.10 ?
[07:21] <_jason> Moratorium, just do apt-cache policy xinit, and tell me what's on the line with "Installed"
[07:22] <lowman62> cool!
[07:22] <drunkpikachu> I don't get it, everything I try to get through apt-get is never @#$%ing found
[07:22] <Moratorium> ok,give me a sec
[07:22] <kemik> drunkpikachu:  maybe you have to add some repos
[07:22] <Moratorium> 2.5.1.ds1-3
[07:23] <drunkpikachu> kemik: Which ones, where, and how?
[07:23] <_jason> Moratorium, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[07:23] <kemik> drunkpikachu:  dunno what you're trying to install :)
[07:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell drunkpikachu  about easysource
[07:23] <platos> !easysource
[07:23] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:23] <lowman62_away> .
[07:23] <Moratorium> 4.10 X86 edition
[07:24] <_jason> Moratorium, you know 5.10 is out?
[07:24] <e_machinist> 4.10... old.
[07:24] <Moratorium> I see....
[07:24] <platos> lol warty
[07:24] <gnomefreak> lol _jason
[07:24] <Moratorium> so do you think I need one of em?
[07:24] <_jason> Moratorium, If I were you I would just scrap this install and start from scratch with 5.10
[07:24] <e_machinist> Warty was fun though... haha.
[07:24] <simak> I'm trying to find a web-page editor ... like Dreamweaver, but free.
[07:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> simak: Emacs :)
[07:25] <e_machinist> simak: nview?
[07:25] <_jason> simak, aren't we all.  Try nvu
[07:25] <gnomefreak> simak, screem
[07:25] <e_machinist> is that the name of it... hmmm.
[07:25] <e_machinist> yah, nvu
[07:25] <Moratorium> and it would work without this obscure xserver prob?
[07:25] <_jason> Moratorium, It should.  I've never had any problem with installing ubuntu on any pc
[07:26] <NAiL> anyone good with nvidia?
[07:26] <gnomefreak> im thinking screem is html website editor
[07:26] <lowman62_away> simak: install crossover then install Dreamweaver
[07:26] <Moratorium> ok, Im gona find a copy.....
[07:26] <gnomefreak> crossover isnt free either
[07:26] <e_machinist> _jason: I confer, used ubuntu on wide range of hardware, never any difficulties.
[07:26] <lowman62_away> $40
[07:27] <nea1> Nail: what about nvidia?
[07:27] <NAiL> I'm having problems getting a NVidia card working. It works ok with the nv driver, and I've followed the instructions to the letter. Once I switch to the nvidia driver, it won't start at all. Anyone that can help me? :)
[07:27] <Stork> hi, my speaker quality sucks. it's on like 50% volume and it's crackly as hell, could this be a problem with drivers?
[07:27] <Stork> NAiL, you mean xserver wont start?
[07:27] <NAiL> Stork: yup
[07:27] <HCl> who can give me an apt sources.list line for an ubuntu breezy mirror :|
[07:27] <NAiL> the xserver log is here: http://pastebin.ca/36604
[07:27] <e_machinist> If you lose your connection when Synaptic is downloading packages, does it keep the list that still need to be downloaded? Or does it get shot to hell?
[07:27] <eksajm> Stork, maybe you have destroyed them
[07:27] <Stork> NAiL, i had that same problem a few days ago.
[07:27] <_jason> ubotu, tell HCl about sources
[07:28] <gnomefreak> ubotu, tell HCl about easysource
[07:28] <Stork> NAiL, i *think* that you need to manually get the new nvidia drivers from thier website
[07:28] <HCl> no no, i ruined my ubuntu installation and i just need a quick link
[07:28] <HCl> i know how to add them in general
[07:28] <Stork> NAiL, alternatively, go back to the older kernel, and use apt-get install nvidia-glx. i did that one, it works fine
[07:28] <HCl> i just have a barely working system, and i need apt to work
[07:28] <_jason> HCl, read the whole thing
[07:28] <e_machinist> check the repositorieshowto in the wiki?
[07:28] <HCl> oh, right
[07:28] <HCl>  :P
[07:28] <HCl> thanks.
[07:28] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, the site is done i just have to add install add-ons to the install file :)
[07:28] <Stork> god dammit these speakers are awful
[07:29] <HCl>  ;x
[07:29] <Stork> owned
[07:29] <_jason> HCl, nice
[07:30] <HappyFool> where i can find out more about how apt-get decides whether or not a package is 'trusted' ? I'm having problems upgrading bogofilter and some other packages
[07:30] <Stork> WHNAT THE HELL IS THIS
[07:30] <nea1> Nail, it doesn't even look like its loading the nvidia driver ....
[07:30] <Stork> THESE SPEAKERS SUCK
[07:30] <Stork> even when really quiet
[07:30] <lsuactiafner> ok why cant i remove xscreensaver without the desktop? thats so annoying, now i need to go hack it, the desktop shouldnt depend on the screensaver
[07:30] <Stork> i'm going to smash something in a minute
[07:30] <lowman62_away> smash your puter
[07:30] <Tuxy> lol
[07:31] <lowman62_away> :D
[07:31] <e_machinist> Didn't you have to... manually... and laboriously have to type like... sudo rm -rf /usr/bin password to do that HCl ?
[07:31] <gnomefreak> Stork, do you have another sound card?
[07:31] <e_machinist> haha.
[07:31] <HappyFool> lsuactiafner: you mean ubuntu-desktop?
[07:31] <_jason> lsuactiafner, are your eferring to ubuntu-desktop?  if so that's jsut a meta-package and it is safe to remove
[07:31] <_jason> lsuactiafner, referring even
[07:31] <gnomefreak> everything wants to get rid of ubuntu-desktop :(
[07:31] <Stork> gnomefreak, i only have the one built into my mobo
[07:31] <ramagaes> hi all
[07:31] <Tuxy> hi
[07:31] <HCl> and now for some reason it's failing to install locales..
[07:31] <ramagaes> can anyone give a hand with a pcmcia wifi card?
[07:32] <NAiL> nea1: It *finds* the card... why wouldn't it load the driver?
[07:32] <Stork> NAiL, the new kernel doesn't seem to like the nvidia driver from the repository
[07:32] <NAiL> hmm
[07:32] <Stork> NAiL, your best bet is to re-install the old kernel
[07:32] <Stork> NAiL, if you're looking for a quick fix anyway
[07:33] <HappyFool> ah, there's no Release.gpg file. bother
[07:33] <Stork> NAiL, chances are, it might still be in your grub loader
[07:33] <NAiL> Stork: that leaves me with *either* accelerated X, *or* sound :-P
[07:33] <gnomefreak> has anyone noticed on dapper that python has a few packages that wont install?
[07:33] <lsuactiafner> HappyFool: yes
[07:34] <Stork> NAiL, ouch :p try downloading the latest ones on the nvidia site, or just call the customer support and make them do the work for you :)
[07:34] <gnomefreak> i hope this fixes it :)
[07:34] <lsuactiafner> well chmod -x xscreensaver
[07:34] <lsuactiafner> nehahhahahamuhahahaha
[07:35] <lowman62> plugs ears
[07:35] <nea1> Nail, Stork's suggestion is probably best....
[07:35] <Stork> hah, i win
[07:35] <gnomefreak> its fixed :)
[07:35] <drunkpikachu> In the srouce-o-matic file, the deb http:\\url is supposed to grab a package correct?
[07:35] <lowman62> unplugs ears
[07:35] <drunkpikachu> source*
[07:35] <HappyFool> lsuactiafner: as _jason said, it's just a meta-package. it depends on all kinds of stuff (like openoffice) iirc. I wouldn't worry about it being uninstalled until dist-upgrade time comes
[07:36] <Tuxy> Does someone have any idea why my wireless network connection is sooooo slow?
[07:36] <Tuxy> worked fine yesterday
[07:36] <gnomefreak> drunkpikachu, you add the htt:deb line to your sources list and than apt-get update
[07:37] <drunkpikachu> gnomefreak: whoa, what? I add them to what sources list where?
[07:37] <dproffessa> hello
[07:37] <gnomefreak> drunkpikachu, are you using easysource or the sources link?
[07:38] <lsuactiafner> thanks HappyFool
[07:38] <drunkpikachu> the link you gave me, and I'm looking at that pop-up of deb packages
[07:38] <drunkpikachu> I ran the key commands (which I'm not sure if they wroked) and not sure where to go from there
[07:39] <gnomefreak> ok the link i gave was easysource. did you fill out the form putting checks where needed and stuff?
[07:39] <drunkpikachu> yes
[07:39] <gnomefreak> ok hit send me list?
[07:39] <mike_> Anybody here familiar with the Vmware Browser appliance for ubuntu?
[07:39] <eksajm> what happands if i try to run a 386 program on a 686 computer?
[07:39] <drunkpikachu> got the key number, ran the commands
[07:39] <drunkpikachu> yes
[07:39] <drunkpikachu> looking at what it sent me right now
[07:39] <gnomefreak> ok now you see a form with a bunch of http://deb lines right?
[07:40] <drunkpikachu> yes
[07:40] <gnomefreak> ok good
[07:40] <gnomefreak> open a terminal
[07:40] <drunkpikachu> done
[07:40] <gnomefreak> in term. type gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:40] <mike_> Can I print using the Vmware browser appliance?
[07:40] <gnomefreak> drunkpikachu, than enter your password
[07:41] <drunkpikachu> Alright, I have the text file open
[07:41] <bore_> Hi
[07:42] <bore_> i have a big problem
[07:42] <gnomefreak> ok now on the page that you were sent from easysource did you chceck the whole upper half of the form?
[07:42] <bore_> i can not install or Update Libgl1-mesa
[07:42] <bore_> anyone here had already this problem
[07:42] <drunkpikachu> you mean about making a trusted key?
[07:42] <dranyam> anyone know if there is a ubuntu that you can boot from a thumbdrive
[07:43] <dranyam> or how hard it would be to make it bootable from a thumbdrive
[07:43] <gnomefreak> drunkpikachu, can you send me a link to the page that easysource gave you?
[07:44] <szamoking> hi
[07:44] <drunkpikachu> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic    ?
[07:44] <drunkpikachu> the actual page with the deb http:\\s are temp and not linkable
[07:45] <gnomefreak> ok close that page please
[07:45] <gnomefreak> go back to the source-o-matic page
[07:45] <drunkpikachu> there
[07:45] <gnomefreak> ok on this page choose the version you are using
[07:45] <szamoking> i tried to get the mplayer for ubuntu breezy, but there is no mplayer there
[07:46] <szamoking> can somebody help me?
[07:46] <drunkpikachu> done and done. For the official packages do I worry about sources as well?
[07:46] <_jason> ubotu, tell szamoking about mplayer
[07:46] <gnomefreak> tick the include updates and security
[07:46] <gnomefreak> drunkpikachu, yes cause im gonna show you an easy way
[07:46] <drunkpikachu> yay
[07:46] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:46] <drunkpikachu> Ok, pretty much all the official section has been checked off
[07:46] <gnomefreak> let me know when you have choosen all the sources you want and you click send
[07:46] <Tuxy> szamoking, maybe mplayer are available through apt
[07:47] <Kyral> mplayer-686
[07:47] <KasperTech> Hi. How do I get dual screen running?
[07:47] <Mabus06> KasperTech, what kind of card
[07:47] <drunkpikachu> alright, clicked send
[07:47] <KvoCo> cafte
[07:47] <KasperTech> Mabus06: GeForce 6600GT.
[07:48] <KasperTech> No sorry 6600LE.
[07:48] <gnomefreak> ok now in your text editor when i had you run gedit /etc/apt .... is that still up?
[07:48] <drunkpikachu> yep
[07:48] <gnomefreak> :)
[07:48] <gnomefreak> delete everything in there
[07:48] <drunkpikachu> :D
[07:48] <Mabus06> KasperTech, I don't know, my card is an ATI.
[07:48] <drunkpikachu> alright
[07:48] <gnomefreak> do not click save just delete it all and let me know
[07:49] <drunkpikachu> doen
[07:49] <drunkpikachu> done*
[07:49] <Mabus06> Am I the only one having troubles with ubuntu.com?
[07:49] <gnomefreak> now copy and paste the file easysource gave you into the editor
[07:49] <KasperTech> Mabus06: Well I reckon it's not so different from each other.. could you point me in the direction?
[07:49] <_jason> drunkpikachu, of course for future reference you always back up a file before deleting everything, no matter who told you to delete it :)
[07:50] <drunkpikachu> I'll keep that in mind
[07:50] <gnomefreak> true _jason but the offical ones are same
[07:50] <Mabus06> KasperTech, well for ATI I had to get the fglrx driver, and then I just had to run fglrxconfig
[07:50] <gnomefreak> drunkpikachu, did you paste it?
[07:50] <drunkpikachu> yes
[07:50] <redguy> Mabus06: ubuntu.com works for me
[07:50] <gnomefreak> click save
[07:50] <adamh> I'm at school and I want to stream mp3's and ogg's from my computer at home to my laptop here. Anybody know of an ideal program?
[07:50] <gnomefreak> drunkpikachu, now in term. type sudo apt-get update
[07:51] <lsuactiafner> adamh : vlc
[07:51] <Mabus06> KasperTech, I don't know if Nvidia has a xorg configuring tool as well.
[07:51] <KasperTech> Mabus06: I see... then it discoverede it all?
[07:51] <martii> is teher any ejabberd 1.0.0 package for breezy?
[07:51] <szamoking> me again
[07:51] <_jason> gnomefreak, you're right, I just meant it was good practice
[07:51] <nino> hallo ich suche eine webseite wo man programme fr ubuntu downloaden kann
[07:51] <szamoking> i failed with the bot
[07:51] <martii> cannot find too much info about setting it up
[07:51] <adamh> lsuactiafner: I'll check it out :)
[07:51] <gnomefreak> _jason, i agree i should have told him :(
[07:51] <drunkpikachu> done
[07:51] <martii> nino: wir sprechen nicht deutch
[07:52] <redguy> !de
[07:52] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[07:52] <lsuactiafner> adamh : icecast livecast darkice shoudl also be able to do it, but ive never tried it, but not vlc either
[07:52] <gnomefreak> drunkpikachu, thats all there was to it now depending on the list you have you will either get updates now or you will have the extra packages in synaptic
[07:52] <tafsen> What is the command in the terminl to check what group my user are in?
[07:52] <gnomefreak> group
[07:52] <adamh> lsuactiafner: Oh. Okay, thanks... I was kinda hoping somebody here would already be doing it, and would have an easy solution. Oh well.
[07:52] <martii> so ejabberd 1.0.0 anyone?
[07:53] <szamoking> somebody with more patience can help me in private?
[07:53] <_jason> szamoking, be more specific about what part you failed at
[07:53] <Tuxy> guid
[07:53] <Tuxy> id
[07:54] <gnomefreak> martii, in terminal type apt--cache-search ejabberd
[07:54] <szamoking> with the synaptic package manager i cannot find mplayer
[07:54] <gnomefreak> !mplayer
[07:54] <ubotu> [mplayer]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[07:54] <szamoking> and not ether with apt-get
[07:54] <szamoking> i tried that
[07:54] <szamoking> Reading package lists... Done
[07:54] <szamoking> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:54] <szamoking> E: Couldn't find package mplayer-i586
[07:54] <gnomefreak> szamoking, follow the instructions on those links
[07:54] <tafsen> gnomefreak, group? no =\
[07:54] <szamoking> should i edit the source list?
[07:54] <_jason> szamoking, read the beginning of the page, you need multiverse
[07:54] <HappyFool> try mplayer-586 -- and please don't paste here
[07:55] <_jason> ubotu, tell szamoking about repos
[07:55] <gnomefreak> eh
[07:55] <gnomefreak> wasnt group and command at one time?
[07:55] <gnomefreak> :(
[07:55] <Moratorium> Hey Jason, I got version 5.04 from a friend right now is that good enough?
[07:55] <eksajm> if i run a 386 program on a 686 computer what happands? an it destroy the processor?
[07:55] <HappyFool> tafsen: try 'id -Gn'
[07:55] <drunkpikachu> gnomefreak: I can't seem to see the grand scheme of updated those packages (in terms of my kernal compile still not finding the req dev package)
[07:55] <dranyam> anyone know much about making ubuntu boot from a thumbdrive
[07:55] <dranyam> ?
[07:55] <szamoking> sorry
[07:55] <Tuxy> http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[07:55] <Kyral> eksajm: no
[07:55] <gnomefreak> drunkpikachu, what are you looking for?
[07:55] <HappyFool> eksajm: should be fine
[07:56] <TorbX> Hello
[07:56] <eksajm> okey thx mate
[07:56] <_jason> Moratorium, sure, it's up to you.  You can always update after installing, but it would be easier for you to just install 5.10.
[07:56] <HappyFool> yeesh. is ubuntuguide still around?
[07:56] <TorbX> I am having some troble
[07:56] <TorbX> trouble
[07:56] <gnomefreak> !ubuntuguide
[07:56] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[07:56] <drunkpikachu> still wondering why sudo make xconfig/gconfig cannot find the dev packages I installed myself are not being found
[07:56] <_jason> TorbX, if you ask a question we can try to help you
[07:56] <Tuxy> I use both
[07:56] <tafsen> HappyFool, then my user name come first and then all the groups im in?
[07:57] <dproffessa> Hi I always have to setserial on my modem and create a new link in order to go online, how can i save these settings, i have the 3Com 5610 modem...help!
[07:57] <HappyFool> tafsen: you belong to a group with the same name as your username
[07:57] <gnomefreak> drunkpikachu, if the dev libs installed than it should find them if not it wasnt a sources problem to begin with
[07:57] <drunkpikachu> well, at least we got one possible problem out of the wya
[07:57] <drunkpikachu> way*
[07:57] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:58] <gnomefreak> drunkpikachu, what are you trying to do with X?
[07:58] <drunkpikachu> I'm not entirely sure to tell you the truth
[07:58] <HappyFool> tafsen: that is, it doesn't really mean to output your username, but you happen to belong to a group with the same name
[07:59] <drunkpikachu> all I want to do is reconpile the kernel and everu guide I've tried ends in an error 5 minutes in
[07:59] <tafsen> HappyFool, thx ;)
[07:59] <gnomefreak> drunkpikachu, what errors give or take
[07:59] <HappyFool> drunkpikachu: if you install libncurses5-dev, you should be able to do 'make menuconfig' -- no need for X etc then
[08:00] <drunkpikachu> that's the thing, I tried installing libncurses and the package is never found (that goes for 90% of all packages I try to put in)
[08:00] <HappyFool> drunkpikachu: successful kernel compilation and installation can be tricky and very frustrating. only do it if you have to!
[08:01] <HappyFool> drunkpikachu: then something is wrong with your apt setup; i'd suggest fixing that first
[08:01] <Moratorium> damn, ubuntu takes FOREVER to install.....
[08:02] <dranyam> well
[08:02] <_jason> Moratorium, lol didn't you jsut start a few minutes ago?
[08:02] <dranyam> it looks like I might as well give up on the thumbdrive issue
[08:02] <clevername> Hi, I'm having issues with Evolution Calender.  I can't create appointments in the 'Personal' calender, and Evolution has taken to crashing when I try.
[08:03] <Moratorium> yes, well I know from my previous couple of attempts......
[08:03] <gnomefreak> Moratorium, after everything is done including the firstboot it should take on a 450mhtz about 1hr total
[08:04] <TorbX> Its about the refreshment-resolution-thing. The other day, I was doing some stuff in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. What I did, solved my refreshment problems, and everything was fine in a certain resolution. Then I moved it UP a noch, to 1200x1600. In 85 HZ it did not work, but it did in 75 hz. So I left it there. But today, when I start my computer, NOTHING works. I press ESC when starting up my computer, to safe mode or something like that, but now what do
[08:04] <Moratorium> no ways gnomefreak, Im running a 1.4 celeron M and it seems SOOO much longer
[08:04] <priest> I'm trying to get a ACX100-card working. But I have trubble with the firmwares, does someone have some documentatin on the firmwares? It's saying it need "tiacx100c0D" and "tiacxr0D" and i don't now which origninaly files these are. It doesn't stand on the acx100 wiki-page either.
[08:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> TorbX: Most likely you altered the vertrefresh / horizsync settings in the xorg.conf file.
[08:05] <gnomefreak> Moratorium, i install ubuntu alot and about an hr im done
[08:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> TorbX: You can either edit the file manually to reset them, or run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[08:05] <Moratorium> it must just be my warped sense of time
[08:05] <gnomefreak> takes 20 mins to get through baseinstall and the copying of files and about 30 mins in the first boot
[08:06] <Moratorium> ok, we'll see....
[08:06] <Moratorium> I started at 9pm
[08:06] <drunkpikachu> Alright, if my apt configuration/options are effed, what would be the most appropriate course of action? File replacement with one I know works, or perhaps even a reinstall of kubuntu (Wouldn't be a loss since I only put it in yesterday)?
[08:06] <TorbX> PuMpErNiCkLe: cool, tnx
[08:06] !alindeman:*! Hi all .. Regional server looks to be having some trouble; we're working to resolve it now
[08:06] <tech9iner> doesnt ubuntu distro offer A N Y  http/ftp installation sources please?..
[08:06] <Moratorium> hahahaha
[08:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> drunkpikachu: either / or, whichever seems easiest
[08:06] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell tech9iner about sources
[08:06] <tech9iner> if yes google damn sure isnt aware..
[08:06] <Moratorium> no, 9pm as in 7 minutes ago.....
[08:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> TorbX: np :)
[08:07] <tech9iner> tx gnomefreak ;] 
[08:07] <gnomefreak> lol Moratorium what part are you on?
[08:07] <gnomefreak> yw tech9iner
[08:07] <drunkpikachu> pumperniekle: have any info on where I might be able to get replacement files for apt?
[08:07] <Moratorium> installing base system
[08:07] <HappyFool> drunkpikachu: i'd just update /etc/apt/sources.list. Unless you've installed software from elsewhere than ubuntu, you shouldn't have any problems
[08:07] <gnomefreak> Moratorium, give yourself 20-30 mins for that
[08:07] <HappyFool> !tell drunkpikachu about repos
[08:07] <gnomefreak> HappyFool, we got him the repos
[08:07] <wezzer> should I use utf-8 here?
[08:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> drunkpikachu: Maybe a kubuntu user here can give you theirs?
[08:08] <HappyFool> kubuntu doesn't use different repos
[08:08] <gnomefreak> HappyFool, he should have all repos enabled already and ran update
[08:09] !lilo:*! Problem with a temporary main rotation server; however, we'd removed it from the main rotation as soon as we could manage, and about 800 users were affected
[08:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> HappyFool: In that case, I can give him mine, I guess...
[08:09] <Tuxy> can anyone recommend a good mp3 streamer?
[08:09] <HappyFool> gnomefreak: perhaps he should, but if apt can't find libncurses5-dev, something must be wrong
[08:09] <gnomefreak> HappyFool, what repo is it in?
[08:09] <HappyFool> PuMpErNiCkLe: i'd stick with the word from the Almighty Ubotu, but go for it if you want
[08:10] <HappyFool> gnomefreak: main
[08:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> drunkpikachu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7018 <--- this *might* work
[08:10] <gnomefreak> you know what :(
[08:10] <gnomefreak> drunkpikachu, did you click the boxes next to the sources for the list?
[08:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> drunkpikachu: Assuming you're using the Breezy release.
[08:11] <drunkpikachu> gnome: yes
[08:11] <drunkpikachu> indeed, 5.10\
[08:11] <gnomefreak> drunkpikachu, can you paste the gedit /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin please
[08:12] <vince_> hi
[08:12] <rednecktek> hello all
[08:12] <wezzer> so it is ok to speak utf-8 here?
[08:12] <gnomefreak> wezzer, yes should be
[08:12] <vince_> i'm looking for a cisco expert
[08:12] <gnomefreak> #cisco?
[08:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> vince_: I might be able to help.... how expert do I have to be?
[08:13] <Blippe> arash, det bsta sttet att f det senaste suns java i synaptic r att lgga till en rad i filen /etc/apt/sources.list som berttar fr synaptic var den ska hmta program!
[08:13] <drunkpikachu> Hrmmm, #  or ## means that line is commented out, correct?
[08:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> drunkpikachu: yes
[08:13] <gnomefreak> yes
[08:13] <vince_> i heard that thye native vlan is not tagged and it's to be able to jump in an another vlan? do u have any information about this subject?
[08:13] <rednecktek> I'm looking for a way to backup specific files (jpg,bmp,png) on a filesystem to CD(s)
[08:14] <gnomefreak> take the # away from any of the repos themselves leave the # infront of the comments
[08:14] <drunkpikachu> Then I take it the last few lines (deb url) shouldn't be commented out, like in your file?
[08:14] <drunkpikachu> ok
[08:14] <vince_> PuMpErNiCkLe, i heard that thye native vlan is not tagged and it's to be able to jump in an another vlan? do u have any information about this subject?
[08:14] <szamoking> thanks for the help
[08:14] <szamoking> bye
[08:14] <szamoking> i'll be back :)
[08:14] <vince_> gnomefreak, thx for the chan
[08:14] <gnomefreak> drunkpikachu, it all depends on the list  and the way you need/want to set it up
[08:14] <gnomefreak> vince_, yw
[08:14] <rednecktek> do any of the cd writing programs support filtering?
[08:15] <andril> hello all
[08:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> vince_: Go for #cisco... it's been awhile since I had to setup/admin a vlan.
[08:15] <vince_> ok thx
[08:15] <elio_> hola
[08:16] <gnomefreak> s/ahannel/channel
[08:16] <drunkpikachu> hrm, I uncommented those lines and tried to get libncurses-dev again. Same basic error at the end with extra ones for each url I uncommented
[08:16] <gnomefreak> drunkpikachu, did you apt-get update?
[08:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> drunkpikachu: You did do apt-get update, right?
[08:16] <lowman62> has no training what so ever but would mess with whatever he could get his hands on :D
[08:16] <drunkpikachu> why no, thanks for that
[08:17] <gnomefreak> drunkpikachu, any time you change that list you need to run sudo apt-get update
[08:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> drunkpikachu: You're welcome. :D
[08:17] <KWizzard> pls, any video-conference software for Linux?
[08:17] <gnomefreak> it tells ubuntu to use the new sources list instead of the old one :)
[08:17] <mjr> KWizzard, gnomemeeting
[08:17] <KWizzard> tkx, mjr, and for KDE?
[08:18] <apokryphos> Kwitschibo: Konference
[08:18] <drunkpikachu> ok, now I'm getting a new error: package libncurses-dev has no installation canidate
[08:18] <KWizzard> thx much :p
[08:18] <lowman62_ZzzZzz> .
[08:18] <apokryphos> * KWizzard
[08:18] <Kwitschibo> :)
[08:18] <gnomefreak> auto complete get you again?lol
[08:18] <apokryphos> KWizzard: though latest Kopete has full MSN/Yahoo webcam support, too
[08:18] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: always 8)
[08:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> drunkpikachu: It'd be libncurses5-dev
[08:19] <KWizzard> Konference is the name? cannot find it... Kopete does not support, IMHO
[08:19] <HappyFool> drunkpikachu: libncurses5-dev
[08:19] <drunkpikachu> I tried both
[08:19] <molina> hola
[08:19] <Kwitschibo> without those highlights i've no coversations :/
[08:19] <molina> algien abla espaol?
[08:19] <drunkpikachu> for libncurses5-dev it tells me install: too few arguments
[08:20] <gnomefreak> drunkpikachu, try in term. type apt-cache search libncurses
[08:20] <Dragornus> any one succesfully used ubuntu with a ax25 network? if so which version of ubuntu did u use? thanks
[08:20] <melonipoika> hi guys, please, i need help with the wireless lan, somehow it is desconfiguring, i have no idea what to try anymore
[08:20] <molina> oks oks
[08:20] <molina> Bye!
[08:20] <melonipoika> !paste
[08:20] <ubotu> it has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[08:20] <abood> hi all
[08:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !es
[08:20] <HappyFool> drunkpikachu: the precise command is 'sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev'
[08:20] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:20] <ludi> I can't setup Evolution.  The "forward" button during evolution setup assistant is greyed-out
[08:20] <dgtl> hi everyone
[08:21] <drunkpikachu> back to the start. E: couldn't find package libncurses5-de
[08:21] <drunkpikachu> v
[08:21] <abood> guys i tried to download skype in Breezy version, tellming error with this package  skype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2) but it is not installable
[08:21] <abood> ???
[08:21] <dgtl> i'm having problems with Totem, it doesn't start and says The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector. I've tried that but with no effect. any clues?
[08:21] <HappyFool> drunkpikachu: you've probably done this a few times already, but could you put your /etc/apt/sources.list up on the pastebin?
[08:22] <simak> I can only get an RPM for my printer.  Can I get it to work?
[08:22] <melonipoika> if anyone could take a look to my /etc7network/interfaces, i pasted it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7019
[08:22] <nino> hello
[08:22] <melonipoika> i'm getting crazy with this
[08:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> woah
[08:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Sudden flood 0_o
[08:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> simak: Yes, using 'alien' - it's an app that handles rpm - to - deb conversions.
[08:23] <gnomefreak> !alien
[08:23] <ubotu> I guess alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[08:24] <lukus001> Guys - my root password still issn't working, I've not changed etc/group to contain admin:x:106:lukus001? but that hasnt changed a thing
[08:24] <simak> PuMpErNiCkLe, cool, thanks.
[08:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> abood: Try installing libqt3102-mt separately and see what error message it gives.
[08:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> simak: np :)
[08:24] <lukus001> ive changed etc/groups*
[08:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> *3c102
[08:24] <drunkpikachu> happyfool: I'm an idiot, I looked through the sources.list again and noticed I didn't uncomment ALL the debs
[08:24] <simak> PuMpErNiCkLe, Is there something like alsa:video::____:printers
[08:25] <abood> PuMpErNiCkLe, i tried to install it by apt but it telling me not available
[08:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> simak: Say what? O_o
[08:25] <thegladiator> !port
[08:25] <ubotu> thegladiator: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:25] <HappyFool> drunkpikachu: ah. the important one in this case is 'breezy main'
[08:25] <simak> PuMpErNiCkLe, a generic printer driver?
[08:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> abood: That could be the problem, then... do you have all your repositories enabled?
[08:25] <drunkpikachu> omgomgomgogmogmgomgomgogmgomgomg, libncurses6-dev in installing! Oh happy day!
[08:25] <drunkpikachu> curses5*
[08:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> simak: Kind of, I suppose... I think cups is supposed to handle most printers.
[08:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> drunkpikachu: w00t :)
[08:26] <Dragornus> any one succesfully used ubuntu with an ax25 network? if so which version of ubuntu did u use? thanks
[08:26] <abood> PuMpErNiCkLe,  sure
[08:26] <lukus001> Does anyone know how to get the root password to work? i can't use sudo or anything!
[08:26] <abood> and also i added repositories for skype and didt work
[08:26] <simak> PuMpErNiCkLe, is there a free flash player ... really free.
[08:26] <gnomefreak> well that was easy :(
[08:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> simak: Flash is free, but I don't think there's an open implementation of it.
[08:27] <_jason> lukus001, were you able to add yourself to the admin group?
[08:27] <simak> PuMpErNiCkLe, is it okay to put it on my UBunTu machine?
[08:27] <lukus001> _jason, i added admin:x:106:lukus001 to it
[08:27] <drunkpikachu> I've never been so happy to see random text flying through my terminal
[08:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> simak: Should be... I have it. :)
[08:28] <_jason> PuMpErNiCkLe, there is I think, I can't remember the name.  I hear it isn't very good though
[08:28] <HappyFool> PuMpErNiCkLe: not yet. there was great excitement about Gnash earlier this week
[08:28] <_jason> lukus001, so now 'groups' returns 'admin' in it?
[08:28] <thegladiator_> hi
[08:28] <nino> hallo
[08:28] <lukus001> _jason, yes
[08:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> HappyFool, _jason: cool - I'll take a look.
[08:28] <thegladiator_> checking a irc client written in pythong
[08:28] <_jason> lukus001, and what happens when you try 'sudo echo hi'
[08:29] <e_machinist> Is there anyway to back up or copy specific packages that I have downloaded through synaptic?
[08:29] <nino> hhhhhhhhhhhhh
[08:29] <thegladiator> e_machinist, try out /var/cache/apt
[08:29] <e_machinist> thegladiator: will do
[08:29] <thegladiator> thats the place I guess where the debs are stored
[08:29] <gnomefreak> i love this background :)
[08:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> e_machinist: They're all available at archive.ubuntu.org if you need them.
[08:29] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, please share
[08:29] <thegladiator> colors ?
[08:29] <lukus001> returns nothing (i tired sudo ealier so i guess "password" would apear, but not till another 15 mins, but it does nothing after password input)
[08:30] <e_machinist> thegladiator: you appear to be correct, thank you much.
[08:30] <thegladiator_> pleasure
[08:30] <lowman62> gnomefreak: http://www.jkhamilton.net/wallpapers.tar.gz <---here are a few more really cool ones for ya
[08:30] <gnomefreak> its black with ubuntu symbol in middle on top says "daddy,where do babies come from? on bottom says "$sudo apt-get install life
[08:30] <gnomefreak> ty lowman62
[08:30] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, how can I set it that way mate ?
[08:30] <_jason> lukus001, you're going to have to pastebin the contents of /etc/sudoers (you'll need superuser access to read it)
[08:31] <lukus001> _jason okay 2 secs
[08:31] <lowman62> gnomefreak yw...would love to sudo apt-get install sense into my wife LOL :P
[08:31] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, you have to go to gnome-look.org its in there just right click it and set as background
[08:31] <gnomefreak> lol lowman62
[08:31] <nino> hallo ich suche einen deutschen chat
[08:31] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, just keeping a wallpaper as background will do ?
[08:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !de
[08:31] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[08:32] <nino> wie komme ich da hin
[08:32] <thegladiator> !german
[08:32] <ubotu> Wish i knew, thegladiator
[08:32] <thegladiator> !de
[08:32] <HappyFool>  /join #ubuntu-de
[08:32] <lukus001> _jason, im gonna have to restart on my other install, brb
[08:32] <_jason> lukus001, k
[08:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bbiab, BZflag calls
[08:33] !lilo:*! orphaned group contact for Novell, Inc....that group registration has been inactivated
[08:34] <kq> i accidentally deleted the default gnome (top) panel, with the start-like menu and the notification area; how do i restore it?
[08:34] <nubbe> I have some sound distorsion on my breezy amd64, which I don't think was there before. nothing in xp. tried both alsa and esd. the intro sound is also distorted. Any ideas?
[08:35] <_jason> kq, do you have your lower panel still?  right click on it and create a new panel
[08:35] !lilo:*! Okay, deactivated if you prefer. Sheesh. Grammar wonks. *grin*
[08:35] <kq>  yes, i do have the lower panel, and i can invoke the menus because i had linked it to a key before
[08:36] <kq> no room to click in the lower panel
[08:36] <Tuxy> hi. hope someone can help me. I have installed ubuntu on my laptop. i am using wireless connection.  my problem is that yesterday it worked fine, but today the connection is so slow. Any idea??
[08:36] <_jason> kq, switch to another workspace
[08:36] <kq> hide desktop button - taskbar buttons filling the entire space - alternate desktops - trashcan
[08:36] <kq> yeah, stupid me  :)
[08:37] <abood> find the solutions to skype in this url
[08:37] <abood> http://forum.skype.com/viewtopic.php?t=38474 POST #9
[08:37] <kq> but now what do i do with that empty top panel?
[08:37] <_jason> kq, add the stuff you want
[08:37] <kq> i want my default panel back; is there a way to add that automatically?
[08:38] <_jason> kq, not that I know of, but there may be
[08:38] <kq> where could i ask?
[08:38] <_jason> kq, try ##gnome
[08:38] <kq> thanks
[08:38] <rixth> !info myql-server5
[08:38] <rixth> !info mysql-server5
[08:39] <Tuxy> !nick
[08:39] <cello_rasp> suddenly i have lost the use of the Super_L key. help?
[08:39] <ubotu> Tuxy: Are you on ritalin?
[08:39] <Tuxy> yes
[08:39] <knux_> hola
[08:39] <B[u] ZzY> how do i install mysql on my linux box?? apt-get install mysql??
[08:39] <rixth> !info mysql-server
[08:39] <ubotu> mysql-server: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.0.24-10ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 3471 kB, Installed size: 8796 kB
[08:39] <rixth> hola, knux_
[08:40] <francisco> h
[08:40] <HappyFool> tell B[u] ZzY about mysql
[08:40] <HappyFool> bah
[08:40] <HappyFool> !tell B[u] ZzY about mysql
[08:40] <gnomefreak> :) i love this strom one
[08:40] <B[u] ZzY> !mysql
[08:40] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:40] <kq> nubbe: try to plug your speakers to a different plug in your motherboard... one is for amplified output, the other isn't
[08:41] <kq> i don't know, but it usually works
[08:41] <rixth> B[u] ZzY, the latest version available is 4.0 though
[08:41] <nubbe> kq, I
[08:42] <nubbe> kq, I'll try but it sounds a bit strange since it's fine in XP, thanks for the idea
[08:43] <kq> nubbe: well in my computer, sound doesn't work at all in xp while plugged the ubuntu way, and viceversa
[08:44] <pete_a> **newbie alert**
[08:45] <pete_a> Can anyone tell me how i change my security settings under ubuntu?
[08:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> pete_a: What do you want to change?
[08:45] <pete_a> When pasting into the kupu editor i get the following message:
[08:46] <pete_a> Pasting from JavaScript is disabled on your Mozilla due to security settings.  For more information, read http://www.mozilla.org/editor/midasdemo/securityprefs.html
[08:46] <lowman62> lol
[08:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> pete_a: And the webpage they give isn't useful?
[08:46] <gnomefreak> pete_a, go into your browsers preffereneces and enable java script
[08:46] <DESiBELi> where can i read open ssh log, who has logged in and when
[08:46] <pete_a> I tried to follow the instructions...
[08:46] <_jason> pete_a, yes?
[08:47] <pete_a> and created a user.js file under .mozille/firefox/defaultXXXXX/
[08:47] <pete_a> but to no avail
[08:47] <bshumate> DESiBELi: /var/log/auth.log
[08:48] <B[u] ZzY> but is lamp installation same as kubuntu's one?
[08:48] <_jason> pete_a, you can probably just change those settings by typing 'about:config' in your url bar
[08:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> pete_a: change user_pref("capability.policy.allowclipboard.sites", "http://www.mozilla.org"); to include any other sites you want to work with.
[08:48] <DESiBELi> bshumate: any way to see only ssh connections?
[08:48] <pete_a> Enable JavaScript is already checked
[08:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> pete_a: Right now it's only allowed for mozilla.org
[08:48] <bshumate> DESiBELi: grep sshd /var/log/auth.log | less
[08:48] <ludi> why does this not work "sudo cd .gnome2"  "sudo: cd: command not found
[08:48] <ludi> "
[08:49] <ludi> this sudo crap is really starting to get irritating
[08:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ludi: You don't need sudo to run cd, afaik.
[08:49] <DESiBELi> bshumate: ty
[08:49] <ludi> PuMpErNiCkLe: yes I do, otherwise it says permission denied
[08:49] <_jason> ludi, because cd is a shell built-in I believe
[08:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ludi: hm
[08:49] <ludi> why is it a freaking ordeal each time I just want to move around my own system?  this sudo thing is annoying
[08:49] <pete_a> PumperNickle:  when you say:  change user_pref("capability.policy.allowclipboard.sites", "http://www.mozilla.org")
[08:49] <_jason> ludi, you can get a root shell like so: 'sudo -i'
[08:50] <fbtab> hey guys, ubuntu rocks!! :)
[08:50] <ludi> I just want to copy some files around my system!
[08:50] <pete_a> is that what i enter in the window after about:config?
[08:50] <rem_> ludi activate root account and just su ...
[08:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> pete_a: I mean the line in user.js that you jsut created.
[08:50] <saif> i have update repos.. and download/install the kvirc
[08:50] <_jason> ludi, what folder is it that you can't get to?
[08:50] <pete_a> ok
[08:50] <ludi> ~/.gnome2
[08:50] <saif> but let me know where its installed
[08:50] <saif> and how can i run it
[08:50] <ludi> _jason: ~/.gnome2 for another user on the system
[08:50] <Tuxy> ludi, try with sudo cp /../   /../
[08:50] <gnomefreak> <<<<:x
[08:50] <_jason> ludi, just do cd ~/.gnome2
[08:50] <pete_a> *is trying that now*
[08:51] <ludi> _jason: I can't
[08:51] <Tuxy> meant pete
[08:51] <Tuxy> :)
[08:51] <saif> i have update repos.. and download/install the kvirc .. but let me know where its installed and how can i run it
[08:51] <ludi> _jason: cd .gnome2
[08:51] <ludi> bash: cd: .gnome2: Permission denied
[08:51] <ludi> I think the ubuntu team needs to reconsider the sudo idea.
[08:51] <_jason> ludi, ls -l ~/.gnome2
[08:51] <pete_a> PumperNickle:  so here is the rub
[08:51] <gnomefreak> saif, if its not in your menu try in terminal typing kvirc
[08:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> pete_a: ^^
[08:52] <saif> Ok
[08:52] <_jason> ludi, err that's not what I meant: ls -l ~ | grep gnome2
[08:52] <pete_a> I'm pasting into a kupu editor window within a Plone application that runs on Zope
[08:52] <_jason> ludi, err that's not what I meant: ls -la ~ | grep gnome2, sorry :P
[08:52] <pete_a> how do i open up pasting for any/all sites?
[08:52] <Prozac> is it possible to change how offen amaroK should update the collection?
[08:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> pete_a: If it supports wildcards - which it should - replace the mozilla URL with *
[08:53] <gnomefreak> pete_a, did you look for the settings in kupu?
[08:53] <_jason> ludi, that folder should be owned by your user
[08:53] <ludi> _jason: I was logged on as another user.
[08:53] <pete_a> *trying the wildcard thought*
[08:54] <ludi> _jason:  and was using sudo command to get access to the other users folder.
[08:54] <ludi> sudo needs to go
[08:54] <ludi> ubuntu re-enable root by default
[08:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ludi: Try sudo su to get a root terminal.
[08:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> err, 'sudo su'
[08:54] <pete_a> gnomefreak:  no, i sort of eliminated kupu,... since i was successful pasting under another browser (ie. IE)
[08:54] <_jason> ludi, what's wrong with 'sudo -i'?
[08:54] <thoreauputic> ludi: to change to another user you use su $username
[08:54] <ludi> what's the root password?  I never entered it.
[08:54] <HappyFool> PuMpErNiCkLe: fwiw, we usually recommend sudo -i
[08:55] <thoreauputic> !root
[08:55] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:55] <redguy> ludi: it's disabled
[08:55] <ludi> arghh
[08:55] <gnomefreak> ludi, use your user password
[08:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> HappyFool: Yes, I suppose that would be better.
[08:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> HappyFool: Didn't know about that, though. :o
[08:56] <saif> gnomefreak, well its running now, can you tell me how can i get it on my desktop and as well in menu's
[08:56] <HappyFool> PuMpErNiCkLe: not a big deal ;-)
[08:56] <rixth> !info gnome-desktop
[08:56] <rixth> !ifno gnome-about
[08:56] <ubotu> I don't know, rixth
[08:56] <rixth> !info gnome-about
[08:56] <ubotu> gnome-about: (The GNOME about box), section gnome, is optional. Version: 2.12.1-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 220 kB, Installed size: 400 kB
[08:56] <gnomefreak> saif, restarting kde should get it in mune
[08:56] <rixth> Okay, 2.12, THANK YOU
[08:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> brb
[08:56] <saif> don't have KDE
[08:57] <HappyFool> rixth: you can also try packages.ubuntu.com
[08:57] <saif> gnome ;)
[08:57] <ludi> I don't get sudo -i
[08:57] <rixth> Thanks
[08:57] <gnomefreak> saif, kvic is a kde chat client for irc isnt it?
[08:57] <j2daosh> ok... i created a *fake* windows drive to use with wine and it installed IE and some other stuff but i cant find it... anyone know where its located at?
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[08:57] <ludi> sudo -i does not work
[08:57] <saif> it is, but i don't have KDE
[08:57] <rixth> j2daosh, ~/.wine
[08:57] <thoreauputic> ludi: sure it does
[08:58] <gnomefreak> saif, if you installed it you do its one of the dependencies but try restarting gnome than
[08:58] <thoreauputic> ludi: sudo -i <your user pass>
[08:58] <bshumate> ludi: it works well, provided your user account is listed in the sudoers file ;-)
[08:58] <thoreauputic> ir it askd for that
[08:58] <thoreauputic> *asks
[08:58] <saif> well, i wanted a shortcut on desktop
[08:58] <gnomefreak> cant have kde apps without kdebase:)
[08:59] <gnomefreak> saif, right click desktop
[08:59] <j2daosh> hey... how do i make a shortcut to another folder on another system?
[08:59] <gnomefreak> said add launcher
[08:59] <ludi> thoreauputic: so then I become root like that?  what kind of security is that?
[08:59] <j2daosh> like make a link to my c:/ drive upstairs?
[08:59] <HappyFool> *rolls eyes*
[08:59] <thoreauputic> ludi: *sigh* read the ubotu URL I gave above
[08:59] <thoreauputic> !root
[08:59] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:59] <thoreauputic> htere
[08:59] <gnomefreak> saif,  name it what you want in the command feild type what you typed in term. to open it
[08:59] <thoreauputic> *there
[08:59] <pansonic> I have a USB external drive - how do you change rea/write permissions on it
[09:00] <Unfun> Anyone know where i can get rrdtool 1.0.x for breezy?
[09:00] <gnomefreak> pansonic, chmod
[09:00] <thoreauputic> ludi: sudo has been used for many years in unix as well as linux - it isn't new at all
[09:00] <pansonic> please explaain
[09:00] <saif> i'm have created
[09:00] <crimsun> !info rrdtool
[09:00] <saif> but its not with kvirc original icon
[09:00] <ubotu> rrdtool: (Time-series data storage and display system (programs)), section universe/utils, is extra. Version: 1.2.11-0.3 (breezy), Packaged size: 471 kB, Installed size: 1040 kB
[09:01] <gnomefreak> pansonic, do you want it for all users to read and right?
[09:01] <crimsun> Unfun: does 1.2.11 not work?
[09:01] <Unfun> It messes up some munin for me
[09:01] <pansonic> yes that would make it easier
[09:01] <meepy> trappist: sorry for highlighting, but i remember you told me how to get bittorrent working probably, something with iptables - and output accept?
[09:01] <specialbuddy> hi
[09:01] <specialbuddy> can anyone help me get a smaller screen resolution
[09:01] <Unfun> Lots of formating changes in rrdtool from 1.0 to 1.2
[09:01] <Tuxy> u mean read and write :)
[09:01] <trappist> meepy: yes
[09:01] <gnomefreak> pansonic, type chmod -rx filename
[09:01] <crimsun> !info rrdtool hoary
[09:01] <meepy> trappist: I forgot what it was, can you help?
[09:01] <pansonic> where filename is the actual filename
[09:01] <pete_a> PumperNickle: any other suggestions?  i tried both "*" and * in place of "www.mozilla.org"
[09:02] <gnomefreak> pansonic, yes
[09:02] <pansonic> thanks m8
[09:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> pete_a: Did you restart the browser after changing it?
[09:02] <Unfun> !info rrdtool hoary
[09:02] <TorbX> Hello again everybody. I managed to change the resolution and stuff by walking through the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg thing. But now my nVidia card seems to misperform. The GL-screensavers seem more "choppy" than before. They used to FLY with my 6600-card, but now its more... whats the word... klonky?
[09:02] <ludi> anyone know how to use gnomemeeting to communicate to a windows user?
[09:02] <specialbuddy> can anyone tell me what file I need to mess with in order to get better resolution
[09:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> TorbX: Did you set it to use 'nv' or 'nvidia' as the kernel module?
[09:03] <pete_a> PumperNickle:  Yes,... assuming the extension i added to my firefox browser does just that
[09:03] <gnomefreak> pansonic, try chmod --help  it will give you info on chmod command also you can try man chmod
[09:03] <mjr> ludi, gnomemeeting has a FAQ on that; the other end needs to use MS NetMeeting and install a free codec for it
[09:03] <trappist> I'll leave it to you to find the port range this time, but iptables -I OUTPUT -j ACCEPT; iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport $PORT1:$PORT2 -j ACCEPT
[09:03] <specialbuddy> can anyone help me with my monitor problem
[09:03] <TorbX> PuMpErNiCkLe:  nvidia
[09:03] <mjr> ludi, http://www.gnomemeeting.org/index.php?rub=3&pos=0&faqpage=x56.html#AEN62
[09:03] <gnomefreak> specialbuddy, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:04] <specialbuddy> thanks gnomefreak
[09:04] <TorbX> PuMpErNiCkLe: should I use "nv"?
[09:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> TorbX: Do you have 'nvidia-settings' installed?
[09:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> TorbX: No.
[09:04] <TorbX> yes, I do...
[09:04] <TorbX> but not much to alter there.
[09:04] <aggressor> !games
[09:04] <pete_a> PumperNickle:  Should I have two subdirs under ~/.mozilla?
[09:04] <ubotu> it has been said that games is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[09:04] <torturetheartist> is anyone willing to help me with permissions on my external fat 32 drive?
[09:05] <paulproteus|lapt> torturetheartist: Yes.
[09:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> pete_a: For firefox?  Probably not... I only have one.
[09:05] <eatnumber1> hey, i setup my system to mount a smb share on boot, but it dosent mount it unless i run mount -a... heres the entry in my fstab: //russell/Music /home/eatnumber1/music smbfs defaults,password= 0 0
[09:05] <ludi> okay let's say that the user has netmeeting with the special codec installed.  now what?  how do I make a connection to that user?
[09:05] <TorbX> Oh, I just saw something. After bucking with the dpkg-thing, my HZ-thing is 60 hz only. Maybe if i do something about that, this chopping will disappear?
[09:05] <simak> where are firefox plugins?  (/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins??)
[09:05] <pete_a> how do i know which is correct, or doesn't it matter?
[09:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> TorbX: Quite possibly, yes. :D
[09:05] <drunkpikachu> Thanks for all the help guys!
[09:06] <paulproteus|lapt> torturetheartist: Do me a favor and run "mount" in a terminal, and put the output of that in a pastebin.
[09:06] <CosmoDad_> is there no local mail traffic in Ubuntu as in Debian? Like security hints and stuff like that?
[09:06] <paulproteus|lapt> See the topic if you don't know about the pastebin.
[09:06] <paulproteus|lapt> CosmoDad_: By default there's no mail server installed, I think.
[09:06] <gnomefreak> paulproteus, thats right
[09:06] <martii> gnomefreak: it's old
[09:06] <paulproteus|lapt> So there isn't local mail at all, as I understand.
[09:06] <TorbX> PuMpErNiCkLe: >Thnx! But hmmm.. By any chance, do you know what the right measures are for a IBM P200 monitor? Crt..
[09:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> CosmoDad_: Uh, yeah... run 'mail', you should hav esome messages.
[09:06] <gnomefreak> martii, whats old?
[09:06] <martii> gnomefreak: 0.7.5
[09:06] <martii> gnomefreak: ejabberd
[09:06] <CosmoDad_> PuMpErNiCkLe: mail doesn't seem to be installed by default
[09:06] <martii> gnomefreak: I ask about stable 1.0.0
[09:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> TorbX: There should be a sticker on the back or a button on the front to display them.
[09:07] <gnomefreak> martii, what ubuntu are you on?
[09:07] <TorbX> ok... will look for that, tnx :D
[09:07] <martii> gnomefreak: stable as well (breezy)
[09:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> TorbX: np :)
[09:07] <martii> gnomefreak: dappers has 0.9.8
[09:07] <martii> gnomefreak: but I'm sure it wont install
[09:07] <HappyFool> CosmoDad_: install postfix -- i'm pretty sure it's on the CD. You might need/want mailx too
[09:07] <eatnumber1> hey, i setup my system to mount a smb share on boot, but it dosent mount it unless i run mount -a... heres the entry in my fstab: //russell/Music /home/eatnumber1/music smbfs defaults,password= 0 0
[09:07] <CosmoDad_> PuMpErNiCkLe: I installed mutt but I didn't have any mail account
[09:07] <ludi> do you just type in the IP address in the "h323:" field to connect to someone with gnomemeeting?
[09:08] <gnomefreak> martii, you might have to get it from their site in either .deb form if you can or tar.gz
[09:08] <martii> gnomefreak: no .deb
[09:08] <mindlace> eatnumber1: are you running mount -a as root?
[09:08] <eatnumber1> yea
[09:08] <gnomefreak> martii, than it sounds like you will be compiling the app
[09:08] <martii> gnomefreak: and I've compiled it even with erlang
[09:08] <CosmoDad_> HappyFool: is it regular on Ubuntu not being able to read root's mail without installing additional software? sounds weird..
[09:08] <pansonic> gnomefreak, tried but i'm trying to allow access to an external hdd and it says that the drive is read only
[09:08] <martii> gnomefreak: but it does not work as expected
[09:09] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell pansonic about mount
[09:09] <mindlace> eatnumber1: do you supply a password?
[09:09] <martii> gnomefreak: is there any svn cvs with ro access for ubuntu?
[09:09] <gnomefreak> martii, giv eme the link please
[09:09] <thoreauputic> CosmoDad: there was a major flame war about it on the users mailing list ;)
[09:09] <eatnumber1> there is no password
[09:09] <rixth> I have Apache2.2 in /chroot/bin/httpd. If I want to lock it into chroot jail (from /chroot) how do I do it?
[09:09] <HappyFool> CosmoDad_: i think it's standard (i installed a few months ago, can't remember details). i think the idea is most desktop users will use evolution, and server users will know what they want
[09:09] <martii> gnomefreak: maybe it would be possible to compile source deb on my machine
[09:09] <eatnumber1> thats why i have password=
[09:09] <martii> gnomefreak: w8
[09:09] <specialbuddy> gnomefreak
[09:09] <HappyFool> thoreauputic: ah, really? hmm
[09:09] <gnomefreak> specialbuddy, ?
[09:09] <specialbuddy> what do I do after I run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:09] <ashyg> what does rescue mode on the dapper disc do
[09:10] <thoreauputic> Happuf: hundreds of mails in the thread ;)
[09:10] <specialbuddy> don't I have to update or something
[09:10] <mindlace> well, when is smb initialized, eatnumber1? the smb server may not be running when it tries to mount
[09:10] <thoreauputic> oops
[09:10] <specialbuddy> because it's not changing the resolution size still
[09:10] <CosmoDad_> thoreauputic, HappyFool: I see
[09:10] <thoreauputic> HappyFool: tab eror sorry
[09:10] <simak> does lsof work on bash in ubuntu
[09:10] <specialbuddy> It found everything
[09:10] <gnomefreak> specialbuddy, after you finish it just restart X
[09:10] <eatnumber1> mindlace: but if i run sudo mount -a it works
[09:10] <thoreauputic> simak: of course
[09:10] <eatnumber1> mindlace: it just dosent work on boot
[09:10] <specialbuddy> do I type that
[09:10] <gnomefreak> specialbuddy, did you make any changes?
[09:10] <specialbuddy> yes I made some changes
[09:11] <martii> gnomefreak: http://ejabberd.jabber.ru/download
[09:11] <j2daosh> hey... how do i mount a ntfs drive on another computer that is shared out to my linux box downstaris?
[09:11] <simak> thoreauputic, i get lsof:warning can't stat() ext3 file system /dev/.static/dev
[09:11] <martii> gnomefreak: there is link to breezy universe packages
[09:11] <specialbuddy> because I have a 19 inch monitor and everything is 600 by 400
[09:11] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell specialbuddy about restartX
[09:11] <martii> gnomefreak: I have universe on my sources list
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> How can I create a .m3u playlist file in folder1 for all of the music files (.ogg) in folder1/subfolder2?
[09:11] <gnomefreak> martii, does it have a # infront of it?
[09:11] <martii> gnomefreak: and apt still installs 0.7.5
[09:11] <pete_a> PumperNickle:  renamed one of the default dirs and get incomplete un-rendered results in my browser. does it matter which default dir i rename?
[09:12] <j2daosh> i cant make a symbolic link to a different network huh?
[09:12] <specialbuddy> I didn't get anything gnomefreak
[09:12] <martii> gnomefreak: I'm not newbe ;) of course it does not
[09:12] <gnomefreak> specialbuddy, either reboot pc or use ctrl+alt+backspace than when at terminal type startx
[09:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> pete_a: It may, I'm not sure - it's not a problem I've seen before.
[09:12] <mindlace> eatnumber1: what I'm saying is that when you write mount -a the smb client software has already been loaded (?)
[09:12] <ashyg> the dapper install says it can't find my ethernet device
[09:12] <ashyg> even though i know it's there - what can i do?
[09:12] <eatnumber1> j2daosh: try sudo mount //machinename/sharename /mountpoint -t smbfs -o defaults,password=
[09:12] <ashyg> it said something about finding firewire
[09:12] <ashyg> but my system does not have firewire
[09:12] <gnomefreak> martii, ok let me look at this
[09:13] <pete_a> pumpernickle:  also, i noticed a prefs.js file could that cause conflicting results
[09:13] <eatnumber1> mindlace: ah, so how do i set the smb share to mount after the smb client has initiated?
[09:13] <ashyg> also the dapper install won't let me pick my drives that are on a PCI SATA controller
[09:13] <specialbuddy> does anyone know how to restartx
[09:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> pete_a: Does what's in the prefs.js look anything like the user.js file you made?
[09:13] <_jason> specialbuddy, ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:13] <eatnumber1> specialbuddy: yea
[09:13] <TorbX> PuMpErNiCkLe: This is what is says on the back of my monitor:
[09:13] <thoreauputic> specialbuddy: ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:14] <pete_a> pumpernickle:  yes.  it has that same line (www.mozilla.org)
[09:14] <gnomefreak> martii, you went here http://www.process-one.net/en/projects/ejabberd/download.html#source and got the tarball?
[09:14] <TorbX> PuMpErNiCkLe: v: 100-240, A: 1.7-1.2, HZ: 50-60     Does this tell you anything?
[09:14] <martii> gnomefreak: got it, compiled
[09:14] <j2daosh> that didn't work eatnumber1
[09:14] <ashyg> does anyone know why the breezy install detects my PCI IDE controller drives fine but the dapper one does not?
[09:14] <martii> gnomefreak: did make install
[09:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> pete_a: In that case, try changing prefs.js and temporarily moving user.js - it may be using the wrong config file.
[09:14] <martii> gnomefreak: etc
[09:15] <gnomefreak> martii, than if you compiled it right should be installed
[09:15] <eatnumber1> j2daosh: what was the error
[09:15] <martii> gnomefreak: it's erlang
[09:15] <martii> gnomefreak: I have problems with startup srcipt
[09:15] <j2daosh> no error... just gave me mount usage
[09:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> TorbX: Yes.  In xorg.conf, there're two lines - one says HorizSync, and the other says VertRefresh.
[09:15] <_jason> pete_a, read the comments at the top of prefs.js
[09:15] <martii> gnomefreak: and with control tools
[09:15] <j2daosh> ill just add it to my fstab... what will i use instead of /dev/harddrive?
[09:15] <martii> gnomefreak: moaybe you can spot ejabberd source .deb ?
[09:16] <mindlace> so eatnumber1: the easiest thing is add umount -a to a script in the last runlevel
[09:16] <martii> gnomefreak: I would rebuild it on my machine
[09:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> TorbX: Change the value associated to HorizSyn to '100-240' and the one associated to VertRefresh to '50-60'.
[09:16] <martii> gnomefreak: btw it's amd64
[09:16] <RickKnight> tolstoy, are you here?
[09:16] <TorbX> Cool!
[09:16] <martii> gnomefreak: maybe that's the problem
[09:16] <j2daosh> and i need a specify a different username for the share... will i do user=sn,password=passwd?
[09:17] <martii> gnomefreak: maybe ejabberd 0.9.1 is awailable only for x86
[09:17] <specialbuddy> ok I restarted x I think but the thing is still not finding anymore options for the monitor other then 640 x 480
[09:17] <eatnumber1> mindlace: won't that unmount all of the filesystems?
[09:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> TorbX: Or I may have them backwards...
[09:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> TorbX:  o_O
[09:17] <gnomefreak> martii, you might be right im looking to see if i find anything about 64
[09:17] <thoreauputic> !tell specialbuddy about fixres
[09:17] <mindlace> sorry, mount -a, eatnumber1
[09:17] <TorbX> PuMpErNiCkLe: Seems right, restarting now.
[09:18] <TorbX> Do I have to restart the computer?
[09:18] <eatnumber1> mindlace: lol... how do i add a script in the last runlevel?
[09:18] <ftg2> TorbX: shutdown now -r
[09:18] <ashyg> does anyone know why the dapper install cd is not detecting my pci ide controller?
[09:18] <TorbX> ftg2: Que?
[09:18] <j2daosh> ok what do i have to enable to make samba work?
[09:18] <ashyg> breezy detected it fine
[09:18] <ftg2> TorbX: either do it from a menu, or in a terminal type: sudo shutdown now -r
[09:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> TorbX: cool
[09:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> TorbX: No, just the xserver.
[09:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> TorbX: ctrl+alt+backspace
[09:19] <eatnumber1> j2daosh: do you have a password on that share?
[09:19] <ftg2> TorbX: excuse me. i'm misreading stuff
[09:19] <ftg2> TorbX: just ignore me ;)
[09:19] <j2daosh> yep
[09:19] <thoreauputic> ashyg: dapper is the development version - you might want to check bugzilla, or write a bug report
[09:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ftg2: ;)
[09:19] <j2daosh> when i added to fstab i got a funky error
[09:19] <j2daosh> 9492: session setup failed: ERRDOS - ERRnoaccess (Access denied.)
[09:19] <j2daosh> SMB connection failed
[09:19] <eatnumber1> j2daosh: dont add it to fstab till u can mount on command line
[09:20] <ashyg> thoreauputic: do you know of a way i could get the latest kernel in breezy?
[09:20] <TorbX> PuMpErNiCkLe:  Ough, failed to restart the graphical server... but it restarted the dpkg-thing for me, Ill write the stuff in there! :-) But maybe the other way then?
[09:20] <j2daosh> ok ill comment it out
[09:20] <ashyg> because there is an issue with the linux kernel where my ethernet controller is not properl supported
[09:20] <martii> gnomefreak: don't worry
[09:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> TorbX: No, I think I got it right the first time.
[09:20] <gnomefreak> martii, it works fine on 64
[09:20] <martii> gnomefreak: I'll try to find source package
[09:20] <martii> gnomefreak: and recompile it somehow
[09:20] <gnomefreak> the tarball is the source package
[09:20] <eatnumber1> j2daosh: try running "sudo apt-get install smbfs" to make sure u have everything u need to mount smb filesystems
[09:20] <ashyg> it's been fixed in the latest kernel packages
[09:20] <martii> gnomefreak: I ment deb src
[09:20] <mindlace> eatnumber1: the easiest thing is to replace russell with the ip address, then it should work
[09:20] <thoreauputic> ashyg: not really, unless you are good at compiling kernels - the kernels for breezy won't be changed except for security issues
[09:21] <martii> gnomefreak: to have all startup scripts ready
[09:21] <j2daosh> got it already
[09:21] <martii> gnomefreak: and working
[09:21] <eatnumber1> mindlace: ok, trying that now
[09:21] <ashyg> thoreauputic: what's the difference of install OEM and install to hard disk on the bootloader?
[09:21] <TorbX> what the hell is my root pswd??
[09:21] <ashyg> torbx type your user password
[09:21] <paulproteus|lapt> ubotu: tell torbx about root
[09:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> TorbX: You shouldn't need it...
[09:21] <gnomefreak> TorbX, user password
[09:21] <mindlace> TorbX: doesn't come with a root password, use sudo
[09:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> TorbX: what mindlace said :)
[09:22] <mindlace> if you need to set the root passwd, do sudo passwd
[09:22] <TorbX> oh
[09:22] <Aero> I have just installed Ubuntu for the first time and am trying to connect my wifi card to my wlan... I use a WPA TKIP+AES key, but I only see an option for WEP. anyone know how to set my WPA key?
[09:22] <TorbX> :-$
[09:22] <thoreauputic> ashyg: I assume OEM is for Original Equipment Manufacturers -i.e. for people who need to customise a setup
[09:22] <ashyg> thoreauputic: is there any idea of when dapper will officially release?
[09:22] <eatnumber1> j2daosh: i've never seen that error... try googling it. google will be able to show u how to mount smb shares better than i can anyway
[09:22] <paulproteus|lapt> !wpa
[09:22] <ubotu> wpa is, like, totally, enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant"
[09:22] <gnomefreak> no need ever for root you can always use sudo -i or sudo su
[09:22] <thoreauputic> ashyg: Aprill 20th
[09:22] <ashyg> that's in a long time
[09:22] <evil> hello, how did I put my files .mp3 in ubuntu?
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> I have a directory full of files named in the format '## - Important_Part_of_the_Name'.  I want to remove the numbers, spaces, and hyphen at the beginning.  I was told a perl expression for replacing spaces with underscores, should I just modify that for this?
[09:22] <ashyg> yea, it's definitely not detecting my PCI IDE drives :(
[09:23] <evil> my others files is in windows
[09:23] <ashyg> i'll put a bugzilla ticket in
[09:23] <thoreauputic> ashyg: Ubuntu releases every 6 months
[09:23] <ashyg> what do you suggest i do in the meantime? buy a PCI ethernet card?
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> evil: Could you explain a bit more what you mean?
[09:23] <thegladiator> ny GUI''s for mplayer besides gmplayer ?
[09:23] <gnomefreak> using breezy maybe?
[09:23] <azion> Anyone here experienced with Gnome themes?
[09:23] <thegladiator> XINE is creating a few problms with m
[09:23] <_jason> tonyyarusso, rename 's/## - //' *, will work I think
[09:23] <ashyg> gnomefreak: you talking to me?
[09:23] <gnomefreak> yes
[09:23] <thegladiator> VLC/totem all us XINE
[09:23] <ashyg> gnomefreak: breezy's kernel is out of date
[09:24] <ashyg> and doesn't work with my ethernet controller
[09:24] <_jason> tonyyarusso, of course you should be in the directory where those files are when you run that
[09:24] <evil> tonyyarusso, well, what I really need is take my musics that I have in an other system
[09:24] <evil> and that system is windows
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> _jason, All right, that looks like the thing I was told before.  Thanks.
[09:24] <gnomefreak> dappers kernel is not stable
[09:24] <ashyg> dapper has the proper version of the kernel, at least so says bugzilla
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> evil, Same machine, different partition, or a different computer?
[09:24] <ashyg> well gnomefreak i'd rather an unstable one that lets me get online than a stable one that i can't do anything with ;)
[09:24] <evil> differente partition
[09:24] <thegladiator> can someone suggest a GUI for mplayer besides GMplayer ? with nice interface ?
[09:24] <ashyg> how much do PCI ethernet adaptors cost?
[09:24] <gnomefreak> ashyg, what pci card do you have that wont run on breezy but will on dapper?
[09:24] <evil> It's the same computer
[09:25] <ashyg> it's not pci, it's on my motherboard
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> evil: Okay, check this:
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> !windowsmounts
[09:25] <ubotu> tonyyarusso: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:25] <ashyg> the uli m5261 gnomefreak
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> !mountwindows
[09:25] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !windmill
[09:25] <ubotu> PuMpErNiCkLe: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:25] <paulproteus|lapt> thegladiator: I suggest totem-xine over mplayer.
[09:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !breadbox
[09:25] <ubotu> PuMpErNiCkLe: I give up, what is it?
[09:25] <thegladiator> totem-xine is what I have
[09:25] <gnomefreak> ashyg, go to walmart or whereever they have pci ehternet cards for under 20 uds
[09:25] <gnomefreak> usd
[09:25] <thoreauputic> PuMpErNiCkLe: don't play witht the bot, please :)
[09:25] <ashyg> it's a known issue with the tulip drivers in the linux kernel, i found a patch at kernel.org and the ubuntu devs said it's been implemented in dapper
[09:26] <thegladiator> but when I play divx movies I can see a small tiny line blinking at the rear end of the screen
[09:26] <_jason> thegladiator, you can get skins for mplayer from their site
[09:26] <javaTard> Are the ubuntu forums not running for other people as well?
[09:26] <ashyg> okay i will just go buy a pci ethernet card after class... time to go to class :) thanks for the help, guys
[09:26] <tonyyarusso> evil, That will tell you how to get at your Windows stuff, and you can either play the files from there, or if you have room and want to for some reason, copy them to the Ubuntu partition if you so please.
[09:26] <_jason> javaTard, working here
[09:26] <Hoxzer> aargh how can I get my system trays back?
[09:26] <azion> I got a prob with Gnome theme, can anyone help me?
[09:26] <eatnumber1> yea, i was having trouble with it
[09:26] <javaTard> hmmmmm, ok
[09:26] <javaTard> maybe it's me
[09:26] <thegladiator> _jason, nto a problem of skin . need a better interface
[09:26] <_jason> azion, just ask your question
[09:26] <fanopnaic> does xine use gstreamer?
[09:26] <thegladiator> not just the looks i mean
[09:27] <thegladiator> xine doesnt use gstreamer
[09:27] <specialbuddy> how can I bring up a root console
[09:27] <eatnumber1> javatard: i was having trouble getting on too
[09:27] <gnomefreak> specialbuddy, sudo -i
[09:27] <thegladiator> in fedora there was something called kmplayer I guess
[09:27] <fanopnaic> k
[09:27] <javaTard> eatnumber1: ok, so it aint just me. thanks
[09:27] <_jason> thegladiator, the skins rearrange the buttons.  Not sure what exactly you want to do.  I prefer mplayer with keyboard shortcuts
[09:27] <azion> _jason, The background in my tray is gone white, while the main bar is black
[09:27] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, its mplayer now
[09:27] <thegladiator> just mplayer gn0me ?
[09:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> thoreauputic: sorry, but it was too tempting :)
[09:27] <thegladiator> it has a good GUI ?
[09:27] <fanopnaic> does xine use the w32codecs package then? :)
[09:27] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, as far as i know mplayer runs on both kde and gnome
[09:28] <fanopnaic> or only internal codecs.
[09:28] <thoreauputic> fanopnaic: yes it does
[09:28] <mwe> thegladiator: use gmplayer if you like a gui
[09:28] <gnomefreak> !mplayer
[09:28] <ubotu> well, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[09:28] <_jason> azion, press ALT+F2, then enter 'killall gnome-panel'
[09:28] <fanopnaic> ok thx
[09:28] <azion> _jason, Why?
[09:28] <tonyyarusso> _jason, Follow-up on previous: Does that rename expression actually understand the ## part to be any number (to do them all at once), or do I need to put in something else/do them individually?
[09:28] <_oP> want to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset on ubuntu but how to reinstall ati fglrx after reboot if even needed? also i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes?
[09:28] <thegladiator> mwe, gmplayer is what I have , but GUI is not really good
[09:28] <j2daosh> hey... i got it to connect and i see the mount on my desktop... did it autmatically get placed in my fstab?
[09:28] <calvin> how do I cange my compuyter's name on the network?
[09:28] <_jason> azion, that will restart the panel
[09:28] <bigon> hi
[09:28] <specialbuddy> I looked in my monitor manual and it says, To execute X-Window, you need to make the X86Config file
[09:28] <specialbuddy> anyone know what that means
[09:28] <mwe> thegladiator: not really, no.
[09:29] <_jason> tonyyarusso, oh those are numbers lol
[09:29] <azion> _jason, I've already restarted, and still the same prob
[09:29] <thegladiator> thanks np
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> _jason, Yeah.  They're tracks from a CD.
[09:29] <azion> _jason, I don't think it's the skin I'm using
[09:29] <gnomefreak> calvin, system>admin>networking
[09:29] <thoreauputic> specialbuddy: don't do that - run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  if X won't run
[09:30] <gnomefreak> calvin, than click general tab and change host name
[09:30] <_jason> tonyyarusso, no it doesn't, use 's/\d{2} - //' I think
[09:30] <eatnumber1> anyone know how to set a script to run at boot
[09:30] <tonyyarusso> _jason, If I felt really ambitious I suppose I could write a script to detect the number of files in the directory and count up, but...
[09:30] <_jason> tonyyarusso, 'man perlrequick'
[09:30] <bigon> does someone know how the installer makes to discover which modules it must add to the /dev/modules file?
[09:30] <calvin> gnomefreak, it still comes up as unknown in my router
[09:30] <mwe> eatnumber1: you can put it in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[09:30] <specialbuddy> I ran it so what do I do now
[09:30] <tonyyarusso> _jason, And you just read my mind on my next question.
[09:31] <eatnumber1> mwe: ok, thx
[09:31] <_jason> azion, not sure, I suppose you can try a different theme to check
[09:31] <thoreauputic> specialbuddy: answer the questions , restart X
[09:31] <gnomefreak> calvin, as in you cant configure router cause it doesnt see host name?
[09:31] <yaaar> word
[09:31] <_oP> want to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?
[09:31] <mwe> eatnumber1: but please back up the original
[09:31] <lukus001> _jason, ok i'm back and i have sudoers open
[09:31] <yaaar> i didn't realize calvin kline was into kernel hacking...
[09:31] <specialbuddy> well how do you restart x because I tried that and it didn't work
[09:31] <_jason> tonyyarusso, that one and 'perlretut' are good to read
[09:31] <_jason> lukus001, pastebin please
[09:31] <azion> _jason, Others are fine, strange thing is the 1st icon after the time is grand, all the rest are in white
[09:32] <gnomefreak> lol yaaar
[09:32] <_oP> want to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?
[09:32] <_oP> want to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?
[09:32] <_oP> want to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?
[09:32] <_oP> want to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?
[09:32] <_oP> want to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?
[09:32] <yaaar> quit that
[09:32] <_oP> want to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?
[09:32] <_jason> _oP, stop
[09:32] <_oP> want to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?
[09:32] <lukus001> _jason, # User privilege specification
[09:32] <_oP> want to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?
[09:32] <lukus001> root	ALL=(ALL) ALL
[09:32] <_oP> want to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?
[09:32] <_oP> want to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?
[09:32] <_oP> want to compile my own kernel Vanilla-Kernel + cK patchset, i am using an athlon 3000+ so i guess should select k7 in kernel configuration yes? and how do i install my ati drivers ?
[09:32] <_jason> ubotu, tell lukus001 about pastebin
[09:32] <yaaar> _oP: i don't expect it will be long before you're kicked
[09:32] <calvin> gnomefreak, I'm just trying to have all of my computers identified and in the router it only shows up as unknown
[09:32] <pete_a> pumpernickle/_jason:  under about:config is see:  javascript.enabled set to default boolean true and pref.advanced.javascript.disable_button.advanced set to user set boolean false
[09:33] <yaaar> ding!
[09:33] <pete_a> is/I
[09:33] <azion> What is the cK patchset?
[09:33] <yaaar> azion: calvin kline
[09:33] <_jason> lukus001, was that the whole file, those two lines?
[09:33] <pete_a> no.
[09:33] <azion> yaaar, whichi s?
[09:33] <lukus001> _jason http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7020
[09:34] <pete_a> it has a boatload of variables set (those were just the javascript related ones)
[09:34] <yaaar> azion: a bad joke. i actually have no idea what the cK patchset is. calvin kline is the underwear guy...
[09:34] <pansonic> In terminal how do you not a 2 word name - eg: /media/40 Gigger/
[09:34] <azion> !ck
[09:34] <ubotu> azion: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:34] <specialbuddy> thoreauputic,  I think I restarted x but I'm still having the same problem
[09:34] <azion> !ck patvh
[09:34] <ubotu> azion: I haven't a clue
[09:34] <azion> !ck patch
[09:34] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, azion
[09:34] <j2daosh> ahh
[09:34] <azion> !ck patchset
[09:34] <ubotu> azion: Are you smoking crack?
[09:34] <yaaar> hehe
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> _jason, That worked.  Thanks.
[09:35] <_jason> lukus001, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7021, append those last two lines to yours.  Remember to have a blank last line
[09:35] <j2daosh> fookin right doggie :) got it... ok now whatelse can i do....
[09:35] <_jason> azion, is this a custom theme?
[09:35] <azion> _jason, one from gnome-look
[09:35] <j2daosh> ahh.. where is the windows xp help forum?
[09:35] <azion> lol
[09:36] <yaaar> so, uh, anybody know what i have to do to get bmp to play .wma files? i installed the w32 codecs as specified in the wiki on RestrictedFormats ...but it says the files are unsupported
[09:36] <_jason> azion, if that is the only one causing trouble, I think you should just assume it is the theme's fault and find another one
[09:36] <j2daosh> yaar... i get file is encrypted... but i think we are just sol
[09:36] <lukus001> _jason, ok done it - should that be it now?
[09:36] <_jason> lukus001, yep
[09:36] <azion> _jason, Cheers man, whats CK patchset
[09:37] <pansonic> please people how do you get terminal to recognise a 2 word file
[09:37] <_jason> azion, no idea
[09:37] <pansonic> doh!
[09:37] <azion> _jason, Thanks
[09:37] <cello_rasp> pansonic: two\ word
[09:37] <cello_rasp> or "two word"
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> _jason, The man things are telling me 'No manual entry for _'  What do I need?
[09:37] <pansonic> fantastic
[09:37] <_jason> pansonic, or 'two word', take your pick
[09:37] <pansonic> thanks
[09:37] <mitrovarr> you can also type  the first part and hit tab to fill it out
[09:37] <yaaar> j2daosh: ? are you saying maybe the files have drm? because they worked on my other ubuntu box
[09:38] <cello_rasp> no man, escape characters are where it's at ;)
[09:38] <simak> do I want LPR or CUPS drivers?
[09:38] <mitrovarr> yeah, but might as well let the shell put them in for you
[09:38] <yaaar> simak: cups
[09:38] <j2daosh> i know all the files i have tryed to play are encrypted...
[09:38] <mitrovarr> does anyone know how to set which monitors the linux console appears on?
[09:39] <mitrovarr> I have a dual monitor set up that works fine in X, but when I log out, the system freezes up because there's a bug in the Nvidia drivers that has to do with restoring the console on the TV out
[09:39] <jimmy567567> _jason, it's all working now, thank you so much for all your help
[09:39] <mitrovarr> so I need to get it to not try to restore the console to the TV
[09:40] <_jason> jimmy567567, np
[09:40] <pete_a> **newbie alert** does any know how to allow pasting operations in about:config?
[09:40] <jimmy567567> _lol it lukus001 by the way need to change my name
[09:40] <_jason> pete_a, can you give me a link to where you are trying to paste
[09:40] <whyameye> is there a way to make my computer stop beeping when I wake it up from hibernating etc.?
[09:40] <mitrovarr> yaaar, I think the problem only involves tv-outs.  This computer had two monitors and that worked fine
[09:41] <yaaar> ah
[09:41] <_jason> lukus001, lol I was wondering who jimmy was
[09:41] <specialbuddy> it's easy to understand why people don't go with something other then windows because I can't even get a monitor to work correctly
[09:41] <mitrovarr> use twinview if you set it up, it works great... not like the old xinerama support that would maxamize windows across two monitors :-)
[09:41] <lukus001> _jason, yeah sorry i had to change it when i was messing about, thanks again though, much appreciated
[09:41] <whyameye> Suspend to RAM works for me about 80% of the time. The other 20% the computer seems to turn on but the screen never lights up and I don't get any response from the computer except the whirring of the fan, disk, etc. How would I troubleshoot this?
[09:42] <yaaar> so, uh, anybody know what i have to do to get bmp to play .wma files? i installed the w32 codecs as specified in the wiki on RestrictedFormats ...but it says the files are unsupported. the same files play fine in totem
[09:42] <pete_a> _jason:  it's into a kupu editor window, in plone under Zope on my development machine
[09:42] <specialbuddy> what do I have to do to get my monitor to work
[09:42] <specialbuddy> ?
[09:42] <tonyyarusso> yaaar, Might be a plugin?
[09:42] <factotum> dont know, never tried a .wma in bmp
[09:42] <pete_a> _jason:  i'm running firefox 1.5 and plone 2.1.1
[09:43] <pete_a> _jason:  if that helps at all
[09:43] <j2daosh> hey anyone use the firestarter firewall?
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> yaaar, Or try reinstalling bmp, because it might not have recognized the codecs being installed yet.  I know that's an issue with some players.
[09:43] <seashell11> I use firestarter j2daosh
[09:43] <crimsun> yaaar: b-m-p doesn't use w32codecs.
[09:43] <yaaar> tonyyarusso: i looked around synaptic...didn't find anything that looked obviously related. anybody know what plugin i might want?
[09:43] <t_kamen> Anyone feel like fronting a ytalk question? :)
[09:43] <mitrovarr> what kind of file are you trying to play?  if it has DRM you're probably never going to get it working
[09:43] <yaaar> tonyyarusso: ah. ok, i'll give that a shot
[09:43] <j2daosh> seashell... u know how to set it up? like mod the defaults and all that?
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> crimsun, As in it can't?
[09:43] <lowman62> specialbuddy: that is why it is a great idea to check to make sure that all your hardware is supported before attempting to install any distro of linux ;)
[09:43] <crimsun> tonyyarusso: as in it doesn't. I maintain it.
[09:43] <mitrovarr> like if it's a file from an online music service or something
[09:43] <yaaar> crimsun: really....there's no way to get support for them?
[09:44] <specialbuddy> It should work
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> yaaar, On the other hand, crimsun I'm thinking just maybe is more knowledgable on this than me.
[09:44] <yaaar> mitrovarr: there's no drm on these....i'm playing them in totem right now. i just want to be able to use bmp
[09:44] <specialbuddy> It knows my video card and it knows what kind of monitor it is
[09:44] <mitrovarr> ah
[09:44] <_jason> pete_a, I don;t know what plone is.  Are you basically trying to use some online app where you need to paste into and get referred to that error you linked before?
[09:44] <mitrovarr> well, I wouldn't know, otherwise, I just knew that drm'd files were probably a lost cause.
[09:44] <specialbuddy> but I can't change the resolution
[09:44] <mitrovarr> I don't use bmp
[09:44] <crimsun> yaaar: you _may_ have luck with xmms. There are a fair number of attempts at it, none of which I know to be complete.
[09:45] <lowman62> specialbuddy: what is it that is happening...i just stepped back in here from being on the phone so i missed a lot of what you were saying
[09:45] <mwe> !fixres
[09:45] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:45] <j2daosh> seashell11, i am gonna need to change some setting in it (setting up port forwarding and stuff like that because i ssh to it alot... so yeah) you know how to do that?
[09:45] <yaaar> crimsun: this seems silly...i mean, the codecs are there, you'd think writing the plugin to use them would be trivial
[09:46] <seashell11> after you open it up and have it running, just try making a connection however you are going to be doing it
[09:46] <TorbX> God damn! No matter what I do when using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, i CANT get higher resolution than 1024x768. My monitor is good for much more.
[09:46] <TorbX> 1200 x 1600
[09:46] <redguy> t_kamen: ask it, maybe somebody will know
[09:46] <specialbuddy> well I want to know why I can't go into display and fix the resolution size
[09:46] <seashell11> then open up firestarter, and it will have a warning message, and right click on it and tell firstarter to allow connections
[09:46] <mitrovarr> Torbx:  Have you tried hand-editing your xorg.conf?
[09:46] <pete_a> _jason: are you familiar with kupu?  becuz i can paste, i just can't paste into kupu
[09:46] <lowman62> specialbuddy: are you at the desktop? or stuck in a CLI
[09:46] <seashell11> accordintg to ip address or port or however you want it
[09:46] <TorbX> yes... it tells me there are lots of more resolutions..
[09:47] <mitrovarr> hmm
[09:47] <j2daosh> so make the connection first then start firestarter?
[09:47] <_jason> pete_a, nope, sry.  I'm afraid if you were able to get those preferences setup like the error message requested and it's still not working, I won't really be able to help you
[09:47] <lowman62> specialbuddy: if you are at a desktop what is your resolution set at?
[09:47] <pete_a> _jason:  it has to be a combination of kupu and firefox/ubuntu
[09:47] <seashell11> start firestarter, then make the connection
[09:47] <j2daosh> ok
[09:47] <mitrovarr> maybe your monitor section has scan freqs that make X think it can't handle those high resolutions
[09:47] <apollo2011> When I try to compile a C++ project in KDevelop, the configure script comes back that the C PreProcessor failed the sanity check.  Anyone had this problem or now what is causing it?
[09:47] <specialbuddy> disconnected myself on accident
[09:47] <crimsun> apollo2011: did you install build-essential?
[09:48] <_jason> apollo2011, did you install build-essential
[09:48] <Moratorium> Im back
[09:48] <pete_a> _jason: thanks for trying
[09:48] <lowman62> specialbuddy: are you at the desktop? or stuck in a CLI
[09:48] <seashell11> firestarter will have a warning massage, and you rightclick on it and tell it to let this connection according to ip address or port
[09:48] <lowman62> specialbuddy: if you are at a desktop what is your resolution set at?
[09:48] <Moratorium> _Jason Im back
[09:48] <specialbuddy> desktop 640x480
[09:48] <t_kamen> My ytalk freezes and gives me in "interrupted system call" error.. any ideas?
[09:48] <_jason> Moratorium, ok, remind me what we were working on
[09:48] <Moratorium> and Im getting the same problem as before
[09:48] <flogiston> Hi does anyone know tightvncserver good?
[09:48] <Moratorium> xserver
[09:48] <Moratorium> wont start
[09:48] <mwe> specialbuddy: you _need_ to read the wiki.
[09:48] <specialbuddy> I did
[09:48] <Moratorium> says it cant find any screens
[09:48] <apollo2011> crimsun: _jason: nope, that might be it...
[09:49] <lowman62> specialbuddy: what is the monitor that you have?
[09:49] <mwe> specialbuddy: you should then do what it says
[09:49] <ludi> does ubuntu come with a firewall setup?
[09:49] <specialbuddy> samsung syncmaster 930b
[09:49] <specialbuddy> and it picked it up
[09:49] <estudianteyrange> hola
[09:49] <simak> yaaar, thanks about the CUPs.
[09:49] <specialbuddy> along with my video card
[09:49] <yaaar> hey neat....looks like there's a wma plugin for bmp that's not in the official repos, but seveas has a deb in his
[09:49] <yaaar> simak: np
[09:49] <seashell11> did you get that j2daosh ?
[09:49] <lowman62> specialbuddy: one moment
[09:49] <mwe> specialbuddy: you still need to edit xorg.conf it doesn't work correctly
[09:50] <mwe> specialbuddy: like the wiki says
[09:50] <lowman62> specialbuddy: are you in gnome?
[09:50] <specialbuddy> I looked at the file and it looks fine
[09:50] <specialbuddy> no
[09:50] <specialbuddy> kde
[09:51] <flogiston> I get this error message when trying to start tightvncserver
[09:51] <flogiston> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7022
[09:51] <SweetestSavage> I got a major problem, is anyone here willing to help me solve it?
[09:51] <redguy> !tell ludi about firewall
[09:51] <lowman62> specialbuddy: if you were in gnome you could go to System>Preferences>Screen Resolution ...dunno with kde :P
[09:51] <redguy> !ask
[09:51] <lusius> FUCK MICROSOFT!
[09:51] <mwe> specialbuddy: well it's not fine or it would work. did you specify HorizSync and VertRefresh to the values your monitor manual lists?
[09:52] <redguy> !tell SweetestSavage about ask
[09:52] <mwe> lowman62: not if xorg.conf is broken
[09:52] <seashell11> j2daosh or you can open up firestarter, and click on policy then click either below Allow connections from host or below allow service, the you click add rule
[09:52] <specialbuddy> it doesn't list any in the manual
[09:52] <mwe> specialbuddy: then google does
[09:52] <SweetestSavage> redguy, I mean I need to PM someone and get them to help me through it.. basically Ubuntu just completely crashed on me..
[09:52] <mwe> specialbuddy: like the wiki says, again
[09:52] <lowman62> mwe: he never told me that xorg was muzzled...
[09:52] <skel> has anyone ever had issues with boot freezing at loading hotplugging system? I've got a dual xeon blade that keeps locking up there after installing the smp kernel
[09:52] <mwe> specialbuddy: I thougt you read it
[09:52] <mitrovarr> specialbuddy:  If you know your monitor's capabilities, you can calculate approximate values from there
[09:52] <X3N> bing
[09:53] <X3N> Has anyone experienced the Ctrl+Alt+F1-7 not doing anything in Breezy ?
[09:53] <skel> I've tried noapic and nolapic in the kernel options
[09:53] <X3N> ie if you want to get to ttty1
[09:53] <mwe> X3N: no not here
[09:53] <simak> did you know that BROTHER is releasing GPL cups drivers.  WHOA COOL.
[09:53] <cello_rasp> for some reason mplayer won
[09:53] <redguy> SweetestSavage: why do you want PM somebody?
[09:53] <X3N> it's really annoying me
[09:53] <cello_rasp> for some reason mplayer won't resize on fullscreen
[09:53] <SweetestSavage> Here's what happened: I was chrooting in my 32-bit chroot, playing Ragnarok Online (I run AMD64 ubuntu) in WINE. Now, the game froze up due to instability, and when I logged back on the X server crashed. I logged into the console, typed startx, and the x server restarted. However, since then, GNOME applets have been behaving very strangely, closing and reopening rapidly.. it's stopped now, but hardly anything works.
[09:53] <skel> X3N: can you use any keyboard activity?
[09:54] <lowman62> skel: it works for me here...never ran into that one
[09:54] <X3N> yep, all the other keys work as far as i can tell
[09:54] <skel> X3N: it could be your keymap
[09:54] <X3N> I am using X keyboard settings in gnome
[09:54] <X3N> instead of gnome's ones
[09:54] <skel> lowman62: which kernel image do you use if you don't mind me asking?
[09:54] <X3N> would that make a difference ?
[09:54] <skel> lowman62: I've got the HS20 blades
[09:54] <mwe> SweetestSavage: try renaming .gnome in your homedir to see if it's a profile problem
[09:54] <pestilence> is there any way to get the newest version of amaroK going in hoary?
[09:54] <Aero> can someone help me setup WPA wifi encryption with ubuntu?
[09:54] <lowman62> skel: one sec let me check
[09:55] <skel> X3N: I think it may if F1 - F7 aren't sending the right keycodes
[09:55] <skel> X3N: just a guess
[09:55] <mitrovarr> SweetestSavaga:  You couldn't have filled up your hard drive, could you?  I filled mine up a while ago and it caused a similar problem.
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> _jason, The man things from are telling me 'No manual entry for _'  What do I need?
[09:55] <skel> X3N: maybe not
[09:55] <pestilence> or does that need the latest version of KDE
[09:55] <mwe> SweetestSavage: it should then create a new profile. then you can try to fix the old profile if the problem goes away
[09:55] <pestilence> which isn't in hoary
[09:55] <X3N> thanks skel i'll give it a go next time i'm going out of X
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> How can I create a .m3u playlist file in folder1 for all of the music files (.ogg) in folder1/subfolder2?
[09:55] <TorbX> YES! Resolution is cool now.
[09:55] <_jason> tonyyarusso, what exactly are you typing?
[09:55] <skel> X3N: hope you get it =] 
[09:55] <cello_rasp> Aero: system > admin > network
[09:55] <Moratorium> _jason
[09:56] <Moratorium> what do you suggest
[09:56] <ludi> redguy: can I trust this firestarter firewall?  I didn't really ask me any specific questions about what I want to do, but I notice iptables -L has a huge list of entries now....
[09:56] <tonyyarusso> _jason, man perlrequick, man perlretut.
[09:56] <_jason> Moratorium, what's the exact error you are getting?
[09:56] <pestilence> tonyyarusso: couldn't you just do "find -name "*.ogg" > my.m3u ?
[09:56] <cello_rasp> Aero: click on the properties for the wireless card and the encryption options will be there. good luck
[09:56] <TorbX> I have one more question, that I guess is more of a trivia... The icons on my (gnome?) desktop is umh... not very tidy.. How do I automatically tidy them up? Evt making them smaller?
[09:56] <Moratorium> it says no screens detected in the error
[09:56] <tonyyarusso> pestilence, Quite possibly, but I don't know all these tricks yet  :)
[09:57] <Moratorium> then it goes to the prompt
[09:57] <pestilence> tonyyarusso: well, i'm not familiar with m3u's, but if a list of files will work, that command is what you want.
[09:57] <j2daosh> eatnumber1, worked for me just fine ...
[09:57] <X3N> cello_rasp, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114583&highlight=mplayer+fullscreen
[09:57] <lowman62> skel: sorry someone came to the door my kernel is ver 2.6.12-10-386
[09:57] <cello_rasp> thx X3N
[09:57] <skel> lowman62: smp ?
[09:58] <tonyyarusso> pestilence, Okay, I'll try it.  Are you familiar with a different playlist format that I should know about?
[09:58] <pestilence> tonyyarusso: nope. :-D
[09:58] <skel> lowman62: because the default install works, just not when we install a smp one
[09:58] <_jason> Moratorium, have you tried searching the forums or googling for that error?  I've never come across it, sorry
[09:58] <_jason> tonyyarusso, install 'perl-doc'
[09:58] <lowman62> skel: the automagick updater installed it about 2 weeks ago I believe...dunno! *shrugs* LOL :P
[09:58] <Moratorium> I think it has to do with the graphics card drivers
[09:59] <tonyyarusso> _jason, Thanks.
[09:59] <pestilence> tonyyarusso: works for me with xmms
[09:59] <mitrovarr> no screens detected?  That's one of the most common X errors I get when I screw up the xorg.conf
[09:59] <skel> lowman62: if you cat /proc/cpuinfo does it show more than one processor? =] 
[09:59] <Rupert`> anyone know why i get this error (pasted at http://pastebin.com/502953) when i try to run Synaptic?
[09:59] <Moratorium> could you tell me how to enable the vesa drivers
[10:00] <redguy> ludi: I'm no firewall expert, nor I use firestarter. Linux's bultin firewall (netfilter) is robust, but configuring it via tools like firestarter may not always be what you want. Read firestarter's documentation on how to tweak it.
[10:00] <tonyyarusso> pestilence, The m3us that I have appear to just be text lists, so it should be right.
[10:00] <lowman62> skel: yes but I do have more than one on this system
[10:00] <_jason> Moratorium, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then change driver "nv" to driver "vesa"
[10:00] <pestilence> tonyyarusso: you might want to do the "find" command on the full path to the files
[10:00] <tonyyarusso> pestilence, Okay.
[10:00] <skel> lowman62: hmm ok. we've got dual xeons that are HT and only 1 proc shows with the default -386 kernel   I'll poke around
[10:00] <_jason> Moratorium, just go to the part about the video card to get in the right section.  Backup the file before you change it
[10:00] <skel> lowman62: thanks for checking
[10:01] <ludi> where is the Run dialogue in the menu?
[10:01] <mwe> lowman62: you need an smp kernel to get linux to recongnize ht/multiple processors
[10:01] <lowman62> skel: your welcome
[10:01] <pestilence> tonyyarusso: i.e. `find /path/to/files/ -name "*.ogg" > my.m3u`
[10:01] <SweetestSavage> redguy, sorry about that. Ubuntu crashed on me when I tried to open up a terminal window.
[10:01] <X3N> Rupert` i don't think Packages is right
[10:02] <mc76> Hi, I was trying to install breezy under a Dell Dimension 3100, and after throwing some Usb error it halts after syslod,klogd. I've seen this report in Google but haven't seen any solution. Would trying the drapper installer help? or any other suggestion?
[10:02] <Rupert`> :/
[10:02] <lysis> exit
[10:02] <X3N> have you changed your apt reposiotry at all ?
[10:02] <Rupert`> it used to work before
[10:02] <lowman62> skel: ok *shrugs* mine works ...:P
[10:02] <Rupert`> but now its stopped working for some reason :|
[10:02] <X3N> the lines should be simular to : deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[10:02] <Rupert`> and i didnt change anything
[10:02] <lowman62> shows 2
[10:02] <X3N> thats odd
[10:03] <Moratorium> _jason, I dont see an "nv"
[10:03] <Moratorium> _jason, I dont see an "nv"
[10:03] <ludi> does firestarter need to be running always in order for the firewall to be on?
[10:03] <_jason> Moratorium, what's it say for the driver under the video card section?
[10:03] <ludi> where is the Run dialogue in the menu?
[10:03] <rejden> is there any ubuntu translation channel?
[10:03] <mwe> ludi: did you click around?
[10:03] <rejden> ludi, try console
[10:03] <_jason> rejden, are you looking for a particular language?
[10:03] <lowman62> ludi: no firestarter is just a gui front end to iptables..so no you do not have to run it after you tweak it the way you want it
[10:03] <mwe> ludi: or press alt-f2
[10:04] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  There should be a "Section "Device"" section.  Under that it should have "Driver "nv"".  That's what you want
[10:04] <Stork> hi, i'm having huge problems with ubuntu. i was playing quake4 and it just crashed, so i had to do a manual restart, then i re-loaded, quake4 wouldn't run, neither would xmms, so i do another manual restart and xserver doesn't run.
[10:04] <ludi> mwe:  no Run dialogue....
[10:04] <ludi> lowman62: does the firewall start automatically on boot up?  or do I need to launch app?
[10:04] <rejden> _jason, no, i'm looking for few questions about rosetta, mainly download/upload of PO with cvs/subversion/whatever but not rosetta
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> pestilence, It worked.
[10:04] <mwe> ludi: not with alt-f2 either?
[10:04] <Aero> cello_rasp: encryption settings arent in the network settings
[10:04] <Aero> I've looked there :|
[10:05] <lowman62> ludi: yes it does
[10:05] <pestilence> tonyyarusso: cool
[10:05] <ludi> mwe: yea Alt-f2 works, but I'm saying there is no menu item for Run
[10:05] <Moratorium> it says Device "ATI Technologies, Inc. ATI Default Card"
[10:05] <ludi> lowman62: but if I click "stop" then it won't automatically enable firewall anymore, correct?
[10:05] <SweetestSavage> Problem here.. big one: Okay, I was chrooting in my 32-bit chroot (running Ragnarok Online under WINE, I am using Ubuntu AMD64), and it crashed due to instability. So, I restarted the computer, and the X Server broke. It wouldn't start up, so I restarted it. It started up okay, but then all the GNOME applets began behaving awkwardly. They would open and reopen rapidly, saying "Cannot open 'gnome-appletname'" and buttons for Rel
[10:05] <SweetestSavage> oad and Close were available. Every time I clicked reload, the same window would pop back up. If I hit close, the same window would also pop back up, and then it eventually stopped. But now, my system is completely unstable and even trying to run X-Chat is dangerous, because it crashed even when trying to run a terminal window. Any ideas?
[10:06] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  That means you have an ATI card, or you configured it for one.  It should still have a 'Driver' section that you can change to vesa if you want.
[10:06] <lowman62> ludi: no it will just stop it for that session but once you reboot...voila there it is
[10:06] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  But why are you setting to vesa?
[10:06] <Stork> hi, i'm having huge problems with ubuntu. i was playing quake4 and it just crashed, so i had to do a manual restart, then i re-loaded, quake4 wouldn't run, neither would xmms, so i do another manual restart and xserver doesn't run.
[10:06] <mwe> SweetestSavage: did you try my suggestion?
[10:06] <Moratorium> becoz its not working on ATI
[10:06] <trkorecky> How is SUSE 10.0 in comparison with Ubuntu 5.10?
[10:06] <mitrovarr> ah
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> _jason, The perl mans are working as well.  Thanks.
[10:06] <SweetestSavage> mwe, I didn't see it, sorry, my comp crashed before I could
[10:06] <mwe> SweetestSavage: ok
[10:06] <ludi> lowman62:  why does my firewall show a blocked connection from i122126017.rivernet.com.au with protocol UDP?
[10:07] <mitrovarr> well, try changing the driver section when you find it
[10:07] <mitrovarr> what kind of video card is in there, do you know?
[10:07] <redguy> SweetestSavage: maybe you fried your hardware?
[10:07] <redguy> :>
[10:07] <SweetestSavage> redguy, my hardware is fine.
[10:07] <SweetestSavage> redguy, it's Ubuntu AMD64
[10:07] <SweetestSavage> redguy, it's very unstable.. I really don't recommend it.. =/
[10:07] <ludi> lowman62:  under Policy tab, Inbound traffic policy is blank, why is that?
[10:07] <lowman62> ludi: means the firewall did its job...blocked is the operative word
[10:07] <XeDoX> Are ubuntu really free
[10:07] <mwe> SweetestSavage: I would try renaming .gnome or gnome2, don't remeber the name and let it create a new profile
[10:07] <_jason> XeDoX, of course
[10:07] <Stork> hi, i'm having huge problems with ubuntu. i was playing quake4 and it just crashed, so i had to do a manual restart, then i re-loaded, quake4 wouldn't run, neither would xmms, so i do another manual restart and xserver doesn't run. I think i'm going to install kde and see if that helps
[10:07] <ludi> lowman62: who was that though that was attacking me?
[10:07] <pete_a> **newbie alert**:: i've got two default dirs under ~/.mozilla/firefox
[10:07] <ftg2> XeDoX: you won't spend a penny on it.. just all of your valuable time.
[10:07] <XeDoX> I'm from Bulgaria
[10:08] <mwe> SweetestSavage: then fix the old one if that makes the problem go away
[10:08] <SweetestSavage> mwe, hm, well, I'm thinking of just install Ubuntu 32-bit anyways.
[10:08] <Moratorium> where is the driver section?
[10:08] <pete_a> can anyone tell me (a) if this is a problem, (b) how i resolve this issue, if it is?
[10:08] <SweetestSavage> installing*
[10:08] <mwe> SweetestSavage: yeah
[10:08] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  The xorg.conf should have a Section "Device" area.  In that, there should be a line that says "Driver "**something**"
[10:08] <SweetestSavage> mwe, AMD64 is so unstable right now.. and the support is pretty low.. lot's of things don't run properly.
[10:08] <_jason> Moratorium, right below where it says your video card it should say "driver     "something""
[10:08] <SweetestSavage> mwe, I hope they fix it for Dapper..
[10:08] <mitrovarr> change the part inside the quotes to 'vesa'
[10:08] <SweetestSavage> mwe, or atleast improve
[10:08] <jadanzzy> hello everyone
[10:08] <_oP2> hello again, after beeing banned!!
[10:08] <_oP2> damn u !
[10:08] <Stork> hi, i'm having huge problems with ubuntu. i was playing quake4 and it just crashed, so i had to do a manual restart, then i re-loaded, quake4 wouldn't run, neither would xmms, so i do another manual restart and xserver doesn't run. I think i'm going to install kde and see if that helps
[10:08] <_oP2> :)):)
[10:08] <tim__> wait
[10:09] <mwe> SweetestSavage: to much stuff is not working or only half working in ubuntu 64bit like multimedia
[10:09] <tim__> quake4 runs on linux?!
[10:09] <mitrovarr> Stork:  What kind of errors does it generate when X tries to start?
[10:09] <trappist> tim__: yes
[10:09] <SweetestSavage> mwe, yep. Good thing AMD64 is backwards compatible.
[10:09] <mitrovarr> tim__:  Yeah, it has a way to install it natively.  Almost all ID games do,.
[10:09] <Pygi> anyone actually know how to add .phtml processing to ubuntu edition of apache2?
[10:09] <tim__> trappist: woah
[10:09] <Stork> mitrovarr, i don't know, it freezes before i can do anything
[10:09] <jadanzzy> can someone help me regarding the PPTPconfig prog
[10:09] <Moratorium> mitrovarr. must I change it next to Device?
[10:09] <lowman62> ludi: right mouse click and resolve the address..dunno usually it just drops the packets and does not reply so no one knew you were there
[10:09] <_oP2> cheers ! baby!
[10:09] <tim__> i should run it through wine or what?
[10:09] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  What do you mean?  You want the part in quotes to the right of Driver, not the part to the right of Section
[10:10] <mwe> SweetestSavage: it will get better over time. nothing much to do but waiting for now
[10:10] <invitado> how change resolution 800x600?
[10:10] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  It should say ati
[10:10] <invitado> help
[10:10] <XeDoX> Do I need to pay in the post office
[10:10] <Moratorium> there is no driver
[10:10] <trappist> tim__: no, it runs native
[10:10] <lowman62> brb phone
[10:10] <SweetestSavage> mwe, yep. Alright, well, I think I'll try your suggestion first.
[10:10] <XeDoX> Sorry for my English
[10:10] <Moratorium> only device then ""
[10:10] <mitrovarr> Moratorium: That would be a problem
[10:10] <tim__> oh.
[10:10] <lowman62_away> .
[10:10] <Pygi> anyone actually know how to add .phtml processing to ubuntu edition of apache2?
[10:10] <SweetestSavage> !mount
[10:10] <ubotu> mount is, like, totally, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[10:10] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  Put in a line under Section "Device" that says Driver "vesa"
[10:10] <_oP2> <--- trying "still " licking his presures booz from his elbows
[10:10] <Moratorium> ok
[10:10] <tim__> if i have the retail version of quake4, can i install it on linux?
[10:11] <mitrovarr> Stork:  does it bring you to the graphical login screen?
[10:11] <Pygi> anyone actually know how to add .phtml processing to ubuntu edition of apache2?
[10:11] <mitrovarr> Stork:  When you boot up, I mean, or does it crash before then?
[10:11] <trappist> tim__: yes
[10:11] <cello_rasp> how do i configure sound juicer to encode in mp3?
[10:11] <mitrovarr> tim__:  If you game a lot and want to in linux, some others that work are UT2004 and Neverwinter Nights
[10:11] <trappist> tim__: just need to download the linux client
[10:11] <Stork> mitrovarr, i get the loading ubuntu screen, then it all goes black and i have to restart
[10:11] <_oP2> ;)
[10:11] <apollo2011> Now KDevelop is saying it can't find /lib/libacl.la
[10:12] <trappist> apollo2011: libacl1-dev
[10:12] <mitrovarr> Stork:  That sounds bad.  I think it's probably beyond my ability to fix.  But one thing that might help is to switch desktops away from the graphical bootup screen so you can see what step it fails on
[10:12] <_oP2> pull my finger !
[10:12] <Pygi> anyone actually know how to add .phtml processing to ubuntu edition of apache2?
[10:12] <Estel|uk> can I break down and cry? :(
[10:12] <_oP2> now!!!!!
[10:12] <mwe> apollo2011: is libacl1-dev installed?
[10:12] <Stork> mitrovarr, yeah, i think i'm done with computers now
[10:12] <_oP2> ahhhh! to late!
[10:12] <alekandr> Pygi: configure it in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[10:13] <Stork> mitrovarr, i just lost a good weeks worth of source code + quake4 saved games
[10:13] <mitrovarr> Stork:  It sounds like it might have done something bad to your hard drive, maybe the drive failing is what caused it in the first place
[10:13] <_oP2> cant help it just listening to alien project :p
[10:13] <mitrovarr> Stork:  It's certainly worth taking the hard drive out and trying to read it on another machine to see if it's really hashed or if the linux install just got wrecked
[10:13] <apollo2011> no I saw that but somehow was thinking I couldn't need the -dev package
[10:13] <Stork> oh good, hardware problems!
[10:13] <Estel|uk> Is there an east way to recover /dev ?
[10:14] <Estel|uk> *easy
[10:14] <Stork> mitrovarr, i can run as root easily
[10:14] <trappist> Estel|uk: reboot
[10:14] <_oP2> this calles up for revolution , so blame it on to the music
[10:14] <mitrovarr> Stork:  Oh.  Well, I'm kind of at a loss, then.
[10:14] <_oP2> :)
[10:14] <trappist> Estel|uk: those aren't real files.  /dev is a pseudo filesystem that gets populated as devices are dicovered
[10:14] <Estel|uk> ok trappist, slightly harder, but is there an easy way to recover /home (I know the answer... but I like asking)
[10:14] <trappist> Estel|uk: restore your backup :)
[10:15] <Estel|uk> what backup? ;)
[10:15] <mitrovarr> Stork:  I thought it might be something easy, like a problem with the .ICEauthority file like I always have
[10:15] <trappist> sucks to be you
[10:15] <Estel|uk> nah, I have lots on the Windows partition
[10:15] <SweetestSavage> mwe, there's two of them.. .gnome and .gnome2, do I rename both of them?
[10:16] <Estel|uk> I forgot to unmount /dev and /home and /tmp and /cdrom from /chroot before I STUPIDLY did "rm -rf /chroot/*
[10:16] <trkorecky> Performance-wise between SUSE 10.0 and Ubuntu 5.10, which runs better on older computers?
[10:16] <hypa7ia> anyone know of problems with reading dvd+r in breezy?  it's impossible to search for, alas
[10:16] <_oP2> someone know a answer to following question?
[10:16] <simak> do I need mepis to install a printer?
[10:16] <trappist> Estel|uk: doh
[10:17] <Sionide> simak, to install a printer on what?
[10:17] <mc76> I was trying to install breezy under a Dell Dimension 3100, and after throwing some Usb error it halts after syslod,klogd. I've seen this report in Google but haven't seen any solution. Would trying the drapper installer help? or any other suggestion?
[10:17] <mwe> SweetestSavage: just rename both. I think the gnome2 one is the important one though
[10:17] <_oP2> need to know if it is possible to lick his own elbows ?
[10:17] <simak> Sionide, on ubuntu  p4
[10:17] <Sionide> simak, well -no, mepis is another distro of linux. it tooks me about 2 seconds to install my printer on ubuntu though..
[10:18] <hypa7ia> simak: which printer?  and no, you shouldn't need mepis.  mepis is a completely different distribution of linux
[10:18] <trappist> _oP2: take the silliness elsewhere kthx
[10:18] <_oP2> :)
[10:18] <simak> Sionide, I have a .deb from Brother.  dpkg generates an error: Brother LPD filter not installed.
[10:18] <pete_a> newbie question:  i've got 2 default dirs under ~/.mozilla/firefox.  please advise
[10:18] <Sionide> simak, you shouldn't even need to do that :s
[10:18] <simak> hypa7ia, brother mfc9700 w/ a .deb driver from brother.
[10:19] <hypa7ia> hmm
[10:19] <_jason> pete_a, remove one?
[10:19] <hypa7ia> see if there's a driver in cups first
[10:19] <Sionide> simak, go to system->admin->printing ?
[10:19] <simak> Sionide, am I doing somethig wrong.  I need to dpkg it right?
[10:19] <Sionide> look for the model number?
[10:19] <Sionide> simak, you might not need to
[10:19] <pete_a> _jason:  does it matter which one?
[10:19] <hypa7ia> simak: try installing it via cps first, not using the brother .deb
[10:19] <_oP2> i need to see what i have drunk
[10:19] <hypa7ia> err cups not cps
[10:19] <_oP2> brb
[10:19] <_jason> pete_a, have you modified one a lot?
[10:19] <simak> hypa7ia, is cps thru admin-->printers?
[10:19] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, what's a fair decent, preferably multi-network, at least Genutlla2 and Donkey, and BitTorrent client for Linux?
[10:19] <Sionide> that's how i installed mine
[10:20] <simak> Sionide, ubuntu is sweet.
[10:20] <Sionide> simak, i know
[10:20] <hypa7ia> simak: cups, yeah, thqt's how you get to it
[10:20] <Stork> actually, linux sucks
[10:20] <pete_a> _jason:  tried move one out of the way (ie. mv k*fault holdout) and it got recreated
[10:21] <pete_a> _jason: only with less stuff in it
[10:21] <_jason> pete_a, well move them both and let it create a new one
[10:21] <pete_a> ok
[10:21] <hypa7ia> Psi-Jack: i like bittornado for bittorrent
[10:22] <rixth> WiMax is being rolled out in my town =D
[10:22] <simak> Sionide, I'm using 'add printer' for a network printer.
[10:22] <Psi-Jack> hypa7ia: Yeah, but I'd like a client that combines BT, G2, and eDonkey together. MLdonkey does it, but... So far, MLDonkey has been sucking to the extreme.
[10:22] <Sionide> simak, is networked or is it local?
[10:22] <simak> Sionide, when I open the printer properties, there is no location.  SHould that be a url?
[10:22] <_oP2> some one of u masters :) know mueller thurgau, damn it! its good booz!!
[10:23] <Sionide> no
[10:23] <hypa7ia> simak: is it a local printer?
[10:23] <simak> Sionide, it's 192.168.0.2 fixed ip.
[10:23] <_jason> _oP2, can you try to keep the chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please, this channel is for support
[10:23] <simak> hypa7ia, , it's 192.168.0.2 fixed ip.
[10:23] <Sionide> right then i don't really know, ask hypa7ia he seems to know more :s
[10:23] <TorbX> i get the feeling Ubuntu is not properly using my NVidia card... GL-screensavers are slow and chunky...
[10:23] <tim__> is there a reason Ubuntu mounts NTFS as readonly?
[10:24] <_oP2> np
[10:24] <tim__> TorbX: nvidia-glx installed?
[10:24] <Psi-Jack> tim__: Yes.
[10:24] <hypa7ia> tim__: because ntfs support in linux is kinda sucy
[10:24] <hypa7ia> err sucky
[10:24] <mitrovarr> TorbX:  Probably not if you just installed, you need to get the nvidia drivers and change your Driver section to 'nvidia'
[10:24] <soundray> tim__, yes there is: read-write support is experimental.
[10:24] <mwe> tim__: because you can't write to ntfs safely
[10:24] <Stork> hi, i'm having huge problems with ubuntu. i was playing quake4 and it just crashed, so i had to do a manual restart, then i re-loaded, quake4 wouldn't run, neither would xmms, so i do another manual restart and xserver doesn't run. I think i'm going to install kde and see if that helps
[10:24] <tim__> and it could potentially nuke the disk?
[10:24] <Kyral> anyone know anything about Exim?
[10:24] <mwe> tim__: write support is not even enables by default
[10:24] <simak> hypa7ia, what is 'location' in printer properties, after install via cups (admin--printers--addprinter)?
[10:25] <tim__> ok, thanks
[10:25] <TorbX> tim__: mitrovarr: driver what, where? I got something nividia stuff in my applications-menu, is that it?
[10:25] <Psi-Jack> Kyral: Yes
[10:25] <tim__> TorbX: run "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"
[10:25] <redguy> simak: a description of the pronter phisical location. in a networked environment you would enter "room 13" here for example
[10:25] <Kyral> Psi-Jack: mind helping me set it up to send mail through smtp.gmail.com?
[10:25] <FXRS|Gamer> Hello
[10:25] <mwe> tim__: thanks to microsoft all ntfs linux driver work is reverse engineered
[10:25] <redguy> s/pro/pri
[10:25] <cyphase> What's the difference between a guy falling from the first floor of a building and a guy falling from the tenth?
[10:25] <tim__> Torbx: then run "nvidia-glx-config enabled"
[10:26] <FXRS|Gamer> I've got a question.
[10:26] <_oP2> servas hundslackl
[10:26] <mwe> tim__: which makes it kinda hard
[10:26] <simak> redguy, so it doesn't mean anything in terms of funtionality?
[10:26] <soundray> Stork, if you have an X server problem, kde is unlikely to help.
[10:26] <mitrovarr> TorbX:  It's hard to say without knowing what it is.  You want the nvidia-glx package
[10:26] <redguy> simak: nope
[10:26] <cyphase> assuming the first floor is not the ground floor
[10:26] <TorbX> tim__: allready got it..
[10:26] <tim__> mwe: i see, thanks
[10:26] <Psi-Jack> Kyral: Hmmm. As a smarthost, authenticated, or what?
[10:26] <FXRS|Gamer> I used that "automatix" script but I didn't sudo first. Think I might have hosed anything up?
[10:26] <simak> redguy, that's a little confusing.  should be called 'printer name'
[10:26] <Kyral> Psi-Jack: smarthost authenticated and TLS
[10:26] <_jason> !automatix
[10:26] <ubotu> [automatix]  messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[10:26] <mitrovarr> TorbX:  Then either do what tim__ said or go into your xorg.conf and change your driver under the device section from nv to nvidia
[10:26] <hypa7ia> so no-one knows of issues with dvd+r in breezy? :(
[10:27] <TorbX> mitrovarr: ok :)
[10:27] <Psi-Jack> Kyral: Okay.. Now, for the kicker. Why google?
[10:27] <mwe> hypa7ia: not here
[10:27] <lowman62> hypa7ia: what is the issue you are having?
[10:27] <FXRS|Gamer> ok thanks
[10:27] <Kyral> Psi-Jack: because I use Gmail :P
[10:27] <redguy> simak: write a bug report :-)
[10:27] <Kyral> and my College mail is more evil ;P
[10:27] <mitrovarr> TorbX: back up your xorg.conf first in case the driver doesn't work for whatever reason
[10:27] <TorbX> mitrovarr: the driver IS nvidia!  (???)
[10:28] <simak> redguy, so my printer (at 192.168.0.2) is giving a message: Printing: Network host '192.168.0.2' is busy
[10:28] <Kyral> I just wanna be able to use Mutt to send the mail lol
[10:28] <mitrovarr> TorbX:  did you do that command tim__ said?
[10:28] <hypa7ia> lowman62: dvd's which i burned on +r media in hoary aren't working in breezy
[10:28] <Psi-Jack> Kyral: Well, I kinda figured that,... heh. I just wonder if you were setting up some kind of personal relay, or something worse. :)
[10:28] <simak> redguy, is the network host the router or the printer?
[10:28] <TorbX> apt-get install nvidia-glx? Yes.
[10:28] <simak> !bug report
[10:28] <redguy> cyphase: the difference lies in propability of survival :-)
[10:28] <tim__> TorbX: when you boot X, do you see an nvidia logo?
[10:28] <Kyral> Psi-Jack: Nope I just wanna send my mail from Mutt :P
[10:28] <ubotu> simak: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:28] <mitrovarr> TorbX:  no, the other command
[10:28] <TorbX> Yes
[10:28] <lowman62> hypa7ia: did they work in hoary?
[10:28] <TorbX> the other?
[10:28] <tim__> Torbx: nvidia-glx-config enabled
[10:28] <Psi-Jack> Kyral: Can't mutt send through authenticated remote smtp?
[10:28] <cyphase> redguy, the guy from the first floor hits the ground then screams. the guy from the tenth floor screams then hits the ground
[10:29] <hypa7ia> lowman62: yup
[10:29] <lowman62> hypa7ia: I mean did you test them
[10:29] <Kyral> Psi-Jack: I dunno
[10:29] <TorbX> tim__: with sudo?
[10:29] <mitrovarr> TorbX:  "nvidia-glx-config enabled"
[10:29] <hypa7ia> lowman62: yeah
[10:29] <tim__> torbx: yes
[10:29] <Psi-Jack> Kyral: Well, you should check there, first... :)
[10:29] <mitrovarr> TorbX:  The acceleration won't activate until you restart the X server, of course.
[10:29] <redguy> simak: depends on how the printer is connected. is it a network printer?
[10:29] <lowman62> hypa7ia: now that is a wierd one...nope cannot say I have heard of that one...I never used hoary
[10:29] <_oP2> @_jason wondering why u not just now having sex with a blonde ho thinks u are all she nneds in her world??
[10:29] <simak> redguy,  yeah, it's 192.168.0.2
[10:29] <trkorecky> mitrovarr: Is there an easy way to restart the X server sans rebooting the entire machine?
[10:29] <_jason> !ops
[10:29] <aCiD2> Hey hey hey
[10:29] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, johndarkhorse or nalioth.
[10:29] <tim__> torbx: and do note that some apps won't run fast -- good hardware won't fix bad coding
[10:30] <_oP2> ;)
[10:30] <Seveas> _jason, ?
[10:30] <mitrovarr> trkorecky:  I think this will work... Hit ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:30] <aCiD2> I installed (EVEEEL) Windows again, and need to get GRUB back again to boot Ubuntu - tips?
[10:30] <hypa7ia> lowman62: yeah it's weird... and my roommate and i are both running breezy so there's nothing else to test on
[10:30] <mitrovarr> trkorecky:  Log in, then type startx
[10:30] <_elessar> hi
[10:30] <mitrovarr> DOH!
[10:30] <redguy> Seveas: -> _oP2
[10:30] <_jason> Seveas, _Op was banned for flooding and returned as _Op2... doesn't shutup
[10:30] <mitrovarr> meant to type the whole thing as one string, but accidentally hit enter
[10:30] <TorbX> tim__: mitrovarr did that "enable" thing, now restarting X. (or the whole system, in fact, dunno how to restart just X...
[10:30] <X3N> aCiD2 google "restore grub"
[10:30] <Seveas> ugh
[10:30] <_oP2> haha
[10:30] <lowman62> hypa7ia: both computers cannot read it? wow that is a miffer
[10:30] <_elessar> I have a pro9blem (big for me - i'm not a noob, but nec\ver used 64-bit)
[10:31] <mitrovarr> TorbX:  You can hit ctrl-alt-backspace, then log in, then type startx
[10:31] <_elessar> whre is agpgart friver?
[10:31] <redguy> simak: hrm, not sure what the problem might be
[10:31] <Stork> hi, i'm having huge problems with ubuntu. i was playing quake4 and it just crashed, so i had to do a manual restart, then i re-loaded, quake4 wouldn't run, neither would xmms, so i do another manual restart and xserver doesn't run. My error is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7025 . Bare in mind i can only run ubuntu in recovery mode
[10:31] <mitrovarr> TorbX:  I think that should restart it
[10:31] <_elessar> I can't use fglrx driver without working AGP
[10:31] <TorbX> mitrovarr: oh, okay. Will do that from now on :)
[10:31] <hypa7ia> lowman62: yeah.  i'm 99% sure i tested them because they were backups of a friend's stuff but the fact that i an't read them on 3 computers has me very very worried
[10:31] <redguy> simak: what printer is it?
[10:31] <mitrovarr> trkorecky:  You have to log in and type startx after you hit that... sorry I didn't give you the rest of the instructions until you logged out
[10:31] <simak> redguy, brother mfc9700 through a printer server attached to the printer.
[10:31] <Kyral> Psi-Jack: the Mutt site says it cannot
[10:32] <TorbX> now the nvidia screen popped up. That pretty neat! :)
[10:32] <simak> redguy, do I need aspeciaal driver for a print server?
[10:32] <Stork> hi, i'm having huge problems with ubuntu. i was playing quake4 and it just crashed, so i had to do a manual restart, then i re-loaded, quake4 wouldn't run, neither would xmms, so i do another manual restart and xserver doesn't run. My error is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7025 . Bare in mind i can only run ubuntu in recovery mode
[10:32] <_elessar> i'm using althol\n 64 now and i cant find GP driver for nforce 3 (nvo\idia nor agpgart)
[10:32] <aCiD2> X3N: Sure thing
[10:32] <TorbX> mitrovarr: tim__ : SMOOTH stuff now :)
[10:32] <trkorecky> mitrovarr: I restarted the X server, does that mean the Nvidia drivers are working?
[10:32] <TorbX> THANK YOU :d
[10:32] <trkorecky> mitrovarr: I followed the steps you laid out for TorbX
[10:32] <mitrovarr> trkorecky:  Hard to say, you need to test it.  Run glxgears to see.
[10:32] <tim__> torbx: congrats :-)
[10:32] <hypa7ia> lowman62: adding insult to injury is that no search engines index the + in dvd+r
[10:32] <lowman62> hypa7ia: could be fubar
[10:32] <TorbX> trkorecky: try a GL screensaver, youll know.
[10:33] <mitrovarr> trkorecky:  If they FLY then it's working.
[10:33] <trkorecky> TorbX: mitrovarr: Alright, thanks
[10:33] <TorbX> trkorecky:  AntSpotligth, for example.
[10:33] <redguy> simak: not sure really... But intuition tells me that you shouldn't need it
[10:33] <Stork> hi, i'm having huge problems with ubuntu. i was playing quake4 and it just crashed, so i had to do a manual restart, then i re-loaded, quake4 wouldn't run, neither would xmms, so i do another manual restart and xserver doesn't run. My error is: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7025 . Bare in mind i can only run ubuntu in recovery mode
[10:33] <Blippe> mitrovarr, what should be flying?
[10:33] <trkorecky> TorbX: mitrovarr: Thanks, they're working
[10:34] <mitrovarr> Blippe:  glxgears will run very, very fast on a computer with accelerated graphics
[10:34] <Blippe> Ic.. i was hoping for a nice intro in the startup
[10:34] <TorbX> I'm getting 55 fps in AntSpotlight
[10:34] <redguy> simak: cups uses IPP natively for printing, it can use smb as well. Which service does the print server provide?
[10:34] <soundray> Stork, where does the error you pasted come from?
[10:34] <Estel|uk> ok, on the route back to /home :D
[10:35] <Stork> soundray, the blue screen that's like "x server output"
[10:35] <redguy> looks like Seveas is doing some housekeeping :-)
[10:35] <simak> redguy, I'm using IPP -- I don't have a reason for this though, it's a default
[10:35] <Blue-Omega> Seveas, being generous today ai ;)
[10:35] <Kyral> Psi-Jack:?
[10:36] <soundray> Stork, this is a shot in the dark, but perhaps try 'apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg-core'
[10:36] <soundray> Stork, and retry.
[10:36] <redguy> simak: I would bet on the printserver configuration then
[10:37] <Stork> soundray, shots in the dark are the best kind. i'll try that now
[10:37] <soundray> Stork, that package contains libdri.a
[10:37] <Estel|uk> waaah; on GNOME :(
[10:37] <action09> hi !
[10:38] <X3N> virgo calc 1588/60
[10:38] <benplaut> anyone know of a way to make a ubuntu live machine into an information ticker (clock, plus whatever other bulletins you put into it)
[10:38] <X3N> wong place
[10:39] <Seveas> X3N, :)
[10:39] <Seveas> !1588/60
[10:39] <ubotu> 26.466666666667
[10:39] <X3N> that's the internet world speed record
[10:39] <X3N> 26 mins for 838.86 gigabytes
[10:39] <nadia007> just put a new video card in my ubuntu box, now the box doesn't like the change, anyway I can have the box scan the new hardware?
[10:40] <soundray> !72 km in miles
[10:40] <deadhouse> :(
[10:40] <ubotu> soundray: Not a clue
[10:40] <soundray> pity...
[10:40] <Stork> soundray, it asks me to insert the new cd, so i do, but it doesn't load the cd
[10:40] <mitrovarr> Stork:  You might need to manually mount the CD.  Can you browse it?
[10:40] <soundray> Stork, who's asking for what CD?
[10:40] <Stork> soundray, wait nevermin d
[10:41] <Stork> wrong cd :p
[10:41] <mitrovarr> doh
[10:41] <fearmoth> can anyone show me to a link that describes installing ubuntu 5.10 with software RAID?
[10:41] <soundray> !tell fearmoth about raid
[10:42] <nadia007> How can I have ubuntu scan for new hardware?
[10:42] <soundray> fearmoth, got the message from ubotu?
[10:42] <tim__> how do i map keyboard keys to shell commands?
[10:42] <Stork> soundray, i did that command you said, then tried "sudo gdm" and it still gives me a black screen
[10:43] <mitrovarr> tim__:  You in gnome or kde?
[10:43] <tim__> mitrovarr: gnome
[10:43] <fearmoth> soundray: yeah, it pointed me to a page that said "This page has been initiated from [WWW]  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2557.html and contains some corrections to this page, as well as another experience of RAID installation on Ubuntu" though ..
[10:43] <soundray> Stork, any error messages?
[10:43] <mwe> nadia007: the system should recognize your new hardware. if not you have to load the driver
[10:43] <Stork> soundray, nope
[10:43] <mitrovarr> tim__:   Darn, I remember doing it in KDE but in gnome I don't know
[10:43] <MikeCamel> LO - looking for some dapper help.
[10:43] <tim__> mitrovarr, thanks anyway :)
[10:44] <fearmoth> can I install ubuntu to a partition say 5-10 GB, and then set up the remaining disk space for RAID as /home after it's installed and do it with the graphical partitioner?
[10:44] <soundray> Stork, can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log pls
[10:44] <nadia007> mwe, just put a new video card, doesn't load xserver, I just need to tell it I have a matorx g450
[10:44] <Stork> that would involve me typing it out manually
[10:44] <MikeCamel> got an epson c80 which was working before moving to dapper, no isn't.  I've lost the set-up (d'oh), but gnome-print doesn't see it via usb.  ideas?  it's there (usbview sees it fine).
[10:44] <Stork> unless there is another way?
[10:44] <soundray> fearmoth, not sure, but this sounds more like a LVM job.
[10:45] <mwe> nadia007: In case of a new video card I would back up xorg.conf and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:45] <soundray> Seveas, does your pastebin script still work?
[10:45] <fearmoth> soundray: can I combine 30GB from one drive and 40GB from another for /home with LVM ?
[10:45] <Seveas> soundray, it should
[10:45] <mwe> fearmoth: yes
[10:45] <Seveas> soundray, ecept if ou downloaded it long ago
[10:46] <Seveas> the old versions stopped working
[10:46] <soundray> Seveas, can you point Stork and me to the recent incarnation please?
[10:46] <nadia007> mwe, exactly what I was looking for... thanks
[10:46] <Seveas> soundray, same place
[10:46] <soundray> Seveas, now if only I could remember...
[10:47] <_elessar> hi, I'm back. I need some information about AGP suppert in (K)ubutu64. I have nforce3 and ati card and I need working agp to run 3D acceleration (fglrx). Soryy fo spellon g- I'm celebraing passing exams :0
[10:47] <Seveas> soundray, look at the bottom right of the pastebin ;)
[10:47] <Stork> maybe suicide is the best way
[10:47] <simak> do I need a driver for a print server?
[10:47] <soundray> Thanks Seveas. Stork, did you see the msg from Seveas above?
[10:47] <|StanG|> Can anyone tell me how to get codecs for mpg and wmf so i can view them in firefox?
[10:47] <trkorecky> When I go to set a screensaver, what does the "Run 'nice'" box do?
[10:47] <trappist> _elessar: only if ati supplies 64 bit versions of their fglrx drivers - I dunno if they do
[10:48] <Stork> err, where?
[10:48] <mitrovarr> _elessar:  http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8178/README/appendix-f.html
[10:48] <cas> simak: depends on the printer, take a look @ http://www.linuxprinting.org/ to see what you need for your printer
[10:48] <simak> cas, whoa cool!
[10:48] <soundray> Stork, http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin is a script that will let you pastebin a file from the commandline.
[10:48] <mitrovarr> _elessar:  That might be helpful, it talks about agp support in the nvidia drivers
[10:48] <Psi-Jack> Does anyone know of any good P2P clients for Linux? Ones that support, mainly, Gnutella2, eDonkey, and BitTorrent, hopefully in one program?
[10:49] <TorbX> I would like to get my Apple bluetooth keyboard to work with my Ubuntu install. That would be sweeeeet....
[10:49] <_elessar> trappist: there are in Ubuntu, so they works (google say yes)
[10:49] <trappist> _elessar: awesome
[10:49] <mitrovarr> TorbX:  I know linux has bluetooth support, so it may be possible.
[10:49] <cas> |StanG|: you can install several aplications for that, xine, mplayer and totem all have firefox plugins
[10:49] <tim__> is there a way to map a keyboard media key to a shell command?
[10:49] <|StanG|> When i try to go to a website totem says i caont have the codecs to play the file..
[10:50] <_elessar> mitrovarr: problem is that this is driver for nvidia grphics card...
[10:50] <Estel|uk> Is there any way I can access the Windows Recycle bin from a mount?
[10:50] <TorbX> mitrovarr: I've tried, just wondering if anybody has been successful.
[10:50] <pianoboy3333> hey, is anyone here good with hooking up moniters and graphics cards
[10:50] <jayr> |StanG|: look for win32 codec in synaptic
[10:50] <Stork> soundray, what are the arguments for that script?
[10:50] <_elessar> mitrovarr: I'm in linux for some year, please do not say me a noob.... :)
[10:50] <soundray> tim__ it's a little bit involved, but there's a mini-howto somewhere. I'll dig it up for you
[10:50] <StokesTheorem> Esteluk:  It should be in a file.
[10:50] <cas> |StanG|: for wmv support you need to take a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show
[10:50] <mitrovarr> _elessar:  Doh, I saw the nforce so I thought 'nvidia'
[10:50] <mwe> jayr: it's not ther
[10:50] <jayr> Psi-Jack: amule is okay
[10:50] <pianoboy3333> hey, is anyone here good with hooking up moniters and graphics cards?
[10:50] <aba-> a
[10:50] <soundray> Stork, check the script source.
[10:50] <mwe> !w32codecs
[10:50] <aba-> opo
[10:50] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[10:50] <tim__> soundray: thanks :0
[10:50] <Stork> i don't understand it at all
[10:51] <mwe> !mp3
[10:51] <_elessar> mitrovarr: here is the problem
[10:51] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:51] <mitrovarr> _elessar:  but that's your motherboard, of course, not your video card...
[10:51] <Stork> oh right
[10:51] <|StanG|> what about mpg?
[10:51] <jayr> |StanG|: its got kinda of a wierd name
[10:51] <StokesTheorem> Esteluk:  Specifically, if you mount the drive it should be called "Recycled" in the very begiging on the drive.
[10:51] <pianoboy3333> does anyone know how to hook up a monitor with a DVI Digital cable in ubuntu
[10:51] <jayr> I still could get wvm files to play
[10:51] <_elessar> mitrovarr: nforce drivers are for audio and net only, not for AGP
[10:51] <pianoboy3333> anyone?
[10:51] <simonp> hi. anyone knows where to find detailed information about preseed (hands-off installs). d-i still asks me questions, and i would like to debug the problem
[10:51] <jayr> avis and mpgs play okay
[10:51] <cas> Hey, thats outdated, mp3 isn't restricted anymore :)
[10:51] <mwe> |StanG|: download the w32codecs and you'll be goog
[10:51] <mwe> good
[10:51] <jayr> thx mwe
[10:51] <pianoboy3333> can someone help me
[10:52] <mwe> cas: it is
[10:52] <_elessar> mitrovarr: that is not my board - me friends :)
[10:52] <mwe> cas: very much indeed
[10:52] <_elessar> mitrovarr: eh, I getting drunk :_P
[10:52] <bettong_BOFH> anyone know of a good office inventory app for ubuntu?
[10:52] <trappist> pianoboy3333: you plug it into the dvi connector on your video card
[10:52] <soundray> tim__, it's http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12159.html -- just not responding here right now...
[10:52] <sethk> pianoboy3333, it is no different than hooking up a monitor with a vga cable
[10:52] <mwe> cas: I know the released a decoder
[10:52] <pianoboy3333> ok
[10:52] <tim__> soundray: thanks :)
[10:52] <pianoboy3333> if you say so
[10:52] <fearmoth> what should I name my volume group when setting up LVM? does it matter? any suggestions? i've never done this before.
[10:52] <mwe> cas: however mp3 is _not_ free at all
[10:52] <cas> mwe: you're right, it is still restricted format
[10:52] <_elessar> mitrovarr: simply - I need driver AGP driver for ATG64
[10:53] <cello_rasp> whenever i try "gzip -d *.zip", it returns blah.zip: unknown suffix -- ignored. how should i unzip multiple zip files?
[10:53] <pianoboy3333> sethk: i had to switch to vga for installing ubuntu tho
[10:53] <jayr> any one have a easy to follow tutorial on how to configure a dual head card for a wide screen?
[10:53] <simonp> more specifically, it always ask for mirror/country and mirror/http/hostname even though it's specified in the preseed file
[10:53] <trappist> jayr: what card
[10:53] <mitrovarr> _elessar:  Are you sure you need drivers to make it work?  I mean, most people don't even have to install special drivers for their motherboards are all
[10:53] <cas> jayr: there are some nice tutorials on ubuntu-forums
[10:53] <mitrovarr> at all, not are all
[10:53] <|StanG|> im not seeing the codec in sympatic
[10:54] <bettong_BOFH> so does anyone know of a good office inventory app for ubuntu?
[10:54] <mwe> |StanG|: it's not there
[10:54] <|StanG|> oh
[10:54] <mwe> !tell |StanG| about w32codecs
[10:54] <|StanG|> someone said it was
[10:54] <mwe> |StanG|: read /msg from ubotu
[10:54] <_jason> cello_rasp, try gunzip file1 file2, I think I've used that
[10:54] <mwe> |StanG|: well that's wrong
[10:54] <_elessar> (EE) fglrx(0): [agp]  unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_EBUSY"
[10:54] <_elessar> (EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP
[10:54] <_elessar> mitrovarr: look
[10:54] <jayr> sorry |StanG| it was me. I appologize
[10:54] <mwe> |StanG|: w32codecs are not in the official repos
[10:55] <jayr> trappist: it an Nvidia base card
[10:55] <_elessar> mitrovarr: I'm not a noob - I know how to reed /ver/log etc...
[10:56] <mitrovarr> _elessar:  Sorry then, I only jumped in because I misread your message and thought you were working with nvidia stuff.  I don't know anything about ati hardware.
[10:56] <_elessar> mitrovarr: NP
[10:56] <soundray> jayr, have you found /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/ yet? There are Readmes in there.
[10:56] <dooglus> cello_rasp: you should do it like this:    for i in *.zip; do gunzip "$i"; done
[10:56] <paladinew> what is the easiest program to use on ubuntu 5.10 to use for http web serving ??
[10:57] <C_J_Pro> Is there anyway to output the information of a monitor (manufacturer, model number, etc.) via a command line?
[10:57] <mwe> paladinew: apache
[10:57] <dooglus> paladinew: apache
[10:57] <_elessar> mitrovarr: I have nfiorce2 and nvidia card now, but my friend haves ATi with nfirce3 and I wat to install there Kubuntu
[10:57] <paladinew> thats what I figured, I cant dl it using add applications, do I have to do apt-get ?
[10:57] <cello_rasp> thanks dooglus
[10:57] <mitrovarr> _elessar:  I did find a page that talks about the problem:  http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.8.25.html
[10:57] <soundray> C_J_Pro, try ddcprobe
[10:57] <mwe> apokryphos: sudo apt-get install apache2
[10:57] <Stork> soundray, how do i use the script? i can't figure it out :|
[10:58] <StokesTheorem> What is the heir for the command "mkinitrd"?
[10:58] <CarinArr> what's up with ubuntuforums
[10:58] <dooglus> cello_rasp: if you want to do it for all zip files in subdirectories, too, you can:    find . -type f -name '*.zip' | while read x; do gunzip "$x"; done
[10:58] <mwe> paladinew: sudo apt-get install apache2
[10:58] <paladinew> apache2 ?  whats the 2 for
[10:58] <fearmoth> sorry for all the dumb questions; for making partitions if i'm setting up a server w/80GB hard drive, what partitions should I make and how big should they be?
[10:58] <mwe> paladinew: version 2
[10:58] <soundray> Stork, give my two min
[10:58] <mwe> paladinew: that's the one ubuntu uses
[10:58] <_elessar> mitrovarr: yes, i know that U know - google is your friend ;)) but problem is with AGp
[10:58] <paladinew> gotchya
[10:58] <cello_rasp> dooglus: you made my day.
[10:59] <dooglus> cello_rasp: it's worth remembering those 2 as templates.  they come in very handy for operating on lots of files
[10:59] <paladinew> alright, so its done installing, how do I configure it, I dont see it in the menus
[10:59] <bettong_BOFH> so does anyone know?
[11:00] <mwe> _elessar: using fglrx?
[11:00] <CarinArr> i'm having some really weird problems with my nvidia driver.. basically i need to run more recent drivers than the ones available through synaptic, so i uninstalled the synaptic ones and installed the latest drivers from nvidia.. Now it works perfectly, until I reboot.. after I reboot, I get the nvidia flash screen and can log in as normal, but if i try to run nvidia-settings or any software that uses opengl, i get segmentation faults
[11:00] <CarinArr> if i reinstall the driver it works fine, until i reboot.. etc
[11:00] <mitrovarr> _elessar:  Well, I don't know then.  Hopefully you can find someone with more skill to help you.
[11:00] <dooglus> bettong_BOFH: what would you want it to do, this office inventory program?
[11:01] <paladinew> mwe: how do I configure it, I dont see it in the menus
[11:01] <mwe> _elessar: I think you could get agp problems if you set  "UseInternalAGPGART" "yes"
[11:01] <bettong_BOFH> just keep track of the clock parts and movements i have in stock and tell me what clock belongs to who
[11:01] <soundray> Stork, 'chmod 755 pastebin ; cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | ./pastebin'
[11:01] <mwe> paladinew: how you configure apache?
[11:01] <CarinArr> i tried to stop gdm, and do "startx -- -verbose 5 -logverbose 5", and then it just hangs on a half black half white screen and the log stops at (II) Initializing extension GLX
[11:01] <TorbX> Darn, i Cant get *.ram files to play with totem or mplayer, or anything, even if I have done what it says here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:01] <bettong_BOFH> if i can't find someting to do that then just keeping track of parts and movements will suffice
[11:01] <dooglus> paladinew: you edit /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[11:01] <paladinew> mwe: yes, it's installed, but I dont see anywhere to set it up
[11:01] <action09> i'm a little bit confused on mails on Breezy: i use evolution + installed spamassassin (spamc/spamd) there's postfix too and procmail, how can i understand the whole mail chain ? Internet -> smtp -> evolution -> procmail( call sa ) and filter , but where is it told in evolution to use spamc or spamassassin or/and to use razor/pyzor/dcc ..etc (in config files !)  :)
[11:02] <mwe> paladinew: you need to read some of the documentation. sorry you have edit the config files by hand
[11:02] <action09> if anyone has  a good link please :)
[11:02] <paladinew> mwe: ok
[11:02] <bettong_BOFH> thats all i really need
[11:02] <CarinArr> anyone who's any good with nvidia problems?
[11:02] <cello_rasp> oh dear: on making a disk image i get: Could not run sub process: Failed to execute child process "cdrdao"
[11:02] <cas> CarinArr: did you installed the right kernelheaders for your current kernel
[11:02] <cello_rasp> bol ita
[11:02] <Stork> soundray, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7033
[11:02] <cello_rasp> sorry for bold
[11:02] <TorbX> *.ram files anybody? real Media-stuff?
[11:02] <cas> CarinArr: You need someone who's good with solutions not problems ;)
[11:03] <cello_rasp> TorbX: mplayer handles them good
[11:03] <CarinArr> cas, yeah, the kernel module compiles absolutely fine
[11:03] <cello_rasp> oh
[11:03] <theconartist> omfgomfg
[11:03] <dooglus> cello_rasp: install package 'cdrdao" by running "sudo apt-get install cdrdao" in a terminal
[11:03] <mitrovarr> cello_rasp:  Do you have cdrdao installed on your machine?  I'm not sure it's installed by default.
[11:03] <JDigital> Hello, all. I'm using a boot CD instead of my usual install. Does anyone know why my linux install would be active?
[11:03] <theconartist> i just accidentally delete everything in my home folder :/
[11:03] <cas> CarinArr: can you find something in your xorg logs?
[11:03] <cello_rasp> i had cdrdao before...
[11:03] <theconartist> and not send to trash
[11:03] <CarinArr> heh cas, true that, was posting in that nvidia thread on ubuntuforums and someone was trying to help out, but i can't get on ubuntuforums.org at all now
[11:03] <theconartist> delete :/
[11:03] <CarinArr> cas, only "(II) Initializing extension GLX
[11:03] <JDigital> oops
[11:03] <CarinArr> cas, then it dies
[11:03] <bettong_BOFH> so anyone have any idea what app would help me?
[11:04] <JDigital> I mean, does anyone know why my swap partition is active
[11:04] <TorbX> cello_rasp: not here...
[11:04] <dooglus> theconartist: unfortunately it's very hard, if possible at all, to undelete in Linux
[11:04] <_elessar> mwe: "UseInternalAGPGART" in xorg.conf? I found this but I forgot wher .... i non I'm after some beers :-P so wher to put this in in xorg/.comf? I'm experinced, so say sewcti etc... sorry for mistakeces ;)
[11:04] <mwe> at least several things in k3b are broken by default because of missing stuff like cdrdao
[11:04] <JDigital> I can't resize my partitions because it's active
[11:04] <mitrovarr> cello_rasp:  It's easy enough to tell if you still have it, see if you can run the command in a terminal
[11:04] <theconartist> dooglus, thats why i am whining :/
[11:04] <theconartist> 6 gigs down the tube
[11:04] <soundray> Stork, I'm afraid this one is beyond me. Especially since you had it working before.
[11:04] <dooglus> theconartist: you could do something like alias "rm" to "rm -i" in your .bashrc.  that's what I do
[11:04] <CarinArr> cas, but it's weird because straight upon rebooting the driver seems to load fine, no errors in the logs or anything, and the  nvidia splash screen is all there and fine
[11:04] <dooglus> theconartist: then at least it will check with you before deleting stuff
[11:04] <Stork> soundray, is this a reformat kind of thing?
[11:04] <warpforge> I don't understand why my Evolution spam filtering isn't working. It's never worked for me before, either.
[11:04] <CarinArr> it's only when i try to run anything that uses it that it seems to go kaboom
[11:05] <C-O-L-T> a powerfull graphic suite for linux?????
[11:05] <bettong_BOFH> dooglus: any ideas?
[11:05] <theconartist> dooglus, it did ask me
[11:05] <TorbX> cello_rasp: "Couldnt resolve name for AF_INET6: <the url>
[11:05] <theconartist> i accidentally pressed yes
[11:05] <soundray> Stork, perhaps you can find something on the web using keywords from the line containing Symbol __glXgetActiveScreen unresolved.
[11:05] <dooglus> bettong_BOFH: no, sorry.
[11:05] <mitrovarr> cello_rasp:  Also, some programs have to be told where cdrdao is, I think I had to configure the location in to K3B
[11:05] <bettong_BOFH> ok thanx
[11:05] <theconartist> i was clearing ou my trash
[11:05] <JDigital> C-O-L-T, use The GIMP
[11:05] <theconartist> somehow it all got in the trash
[11:05] <cas> CarinArr: maybe some old nvidia driver is also loading
[11:05] <theconartist> how, i dont know
[11:05] <mwe> C-O-L-T: gimp is the most "powerful" one I think
[11:05] <dooglus> theconartist: "rm -i" would ask for every single file
[11:05] <C-O-L-T> JDigital: something like Adobe Creative Suite 2
[11:05] <_elessar> mwe: I'm using athlon 64 (in fact my friend-so even more important to show that-Linux really works) anf nforce3
[11:05] <CarinArr> cas, no.. there's no indication it is anywhere
[11:06] <warpforge> COLT: Try The GIMP + Scribus
[11:06] <cas> CarinArr: try removing every nvidia thingy before installing the new one
[11:06] <mwe> _elessar: ubuntu 64bit then or 32bit ?
[11:06] <warpforge> COLT: But it's nothing compared to CS2
[11:06] <cas> CarinArr: also /etc/init.d/nvidia-*
[11:06] <CarinArr> cas, done it.. no difference
[11:06] <cas> weird
[11:06] <rixth> GIMP & Photoshop are totally different. GImp is more for web graphics, photoshop more for photos
[11:06] <SweetestSavage> mwe, it didn't work. Now my partition has errors and.. I can't even mount properly to the second hard drive when I try to reinstall Ubuntu.. I don't know what to do.
[11:07] <C-O-L-T> warpforge: there is no a powerfull tool for linux?
[11:07] <JDigital> They are similar though
[11:07] <rixth> C-O-L-T, GIMP LIKE SOMEONE SAID
[11:07] <dooglus> there's something called "gimpshop" which makes the gimp more like photoshop
[11:07] <rixth> Its your best bet
[11:07] <mwe> photoshop is like totally more powerful than gimp
[11:07] <Sionide> heh http://slike.lublana.com/pics/getmms2309.jpeg accidental spillage of water on the floor
[11:07] <_elessar> mwe:  64bit of corse :) 32 bit is working on my desktop ;))
[11:07] <cello_rasp> dooglus: i don't know why but i still get "suffix ignored" with "find . -type f -name '*.zip' | while read x; do gunzip "$x"; done"
[11:07] <JDigital> How do I unmount my swapfile partition
[11:07] <JDigital> gparted won't let me
[11:07] <JDigital> since it is "Active"
[11:07] <cello_rasp> mwe I agree, best to run it under wine.
[11:07] <JDigital> which is odd because I booted from a boot CD
[11:07] <mwe> SweetestSavage: sorry what was the problem?
[11:08] <dooglus> cello_rasp: try this:   find . -type f -name '*.zip'  | while read x; do echo gunzip $x; gunzip "$x"; done
[11:08] <mwe> cello_rasp: yeah if you can do with version 7. I can't I need CS2
[11:08] <cello_rasp> gimp is great but the interface in gimpshop is not much better.
[11:08] <dooglus> cello_rasp: then you'll see the gunzip commands printed before they're run, and have more idea of what's going wrong.
[11:08] <SweetestSavage> mwe, the X server crashing, GNOME behaving oddly.. well, I tried restarting and fsck found errors.. and couldn't fix them. Something about INODE or something rather.. and yeah, when I tried reinstalling Ubuntu it couldn't successfully mount the second hard-drive's partition.
[11:08] <Stork> soundray, this site: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2005-November/105641.html seems to think i should remover the line "Load "dri"" from my xorg.conf
[11:08] <mwe> cello_rasp: or is it even 4.7 the latest version that works in wine. not sure
[11:09] <mwe> cello_rasp: I run it in wmware
[11:09] <mwe> vmware*
[11:09] <soundray> Stork, worth a try
[11:09] <cello_rasp> dooglus: thanks, very much noted
[11:09] <dooglus> cello_rasp: try it, and paste the line that appears just before the error message
[11:09] <Stork> soundray, darn, no luck
[11:09] <mwe> JDigital: swapoff
[11:10] <mitrovarr> SweetestSavage:  Are you sture there isn't something physical wrong with the hard drive?  Or maybe the partition table is damaged.
[11:10] <cello_rasp> same old "unknown suffix" problem. i think it has to do with the gunzip program itself? i have all the restricted formats packages installed..
[11:10] <dooglus> cello_rasp: I'm being an idiot...  gunzip isn't for unzipped .zip files - it's for uncompressing .gz files.  that's your problem!
[11:10] <cello_rasp> ding
[11:10] <cello_rasp> hehehe
[11:10] <warpforge> Is ubuntuforums.org down?
[11:10] <SweetestSavage> mitrovarr, it was working perfectly fine before, I'm on a Live CD and I can access the partitions just fine.
[11:10] <Sionide> seems to be iffy for me warpforge
[11:10] <ssam> warpforge, down for me
[11:11] <cello_rasp> warpforge: yeah
[11:11] <soundray> Stork, all this trouble just to run Quake... Can you not switch to planetpenguin-racer? :)
[11:11] <DayTurnsNight> warpforge, yeah i guess it is
[11:11] <mwe> warpforge: seems down
[11:11] <phiber_optic> how can i check if my webcam is working?
[11:11] <JDigital> mwe++
[11:11] <Stork> soundray, it's not just quakem the whole xserver wont run :|
[11:11] <JDigital> mwe: Thanks, that did the job! :)
[11:11] <cello_rasp> hmmm now what should i use for uncompressing zip files argh
[11:11] <ssam> warpforge, they seemed to crumble away in the last half hour
[11:11] <mwe> JDigital: great
[11:11] <mitrovarr> SweetestSavage:  Could it be a DMA error?  LiveCDs normally turn it off.
[11:11] <_jason> cello_rasp, unzip
[11:11] <cello_rasp> nooo
[11:12] <cello_rasp> heh
[11:12] <dooglus> cello_rasp: find -type f -name '*.zip' | while read x; do unzip "$x"; done
[11:12] <SweetestSavage> mitrovarr, I'm not sure. How would I find out?
[11:12] <soundray> Stork, I know. But you had it running, and Quake crashed and got you into this trouble, didn't it?
[11:12] <mitrovarr> SweetestSavaga:  Well, you could try to run the livecd with DMA on and see if that works.  It's probably a cheatcode.
[11:12] <mwe> dooglus: or mark all the files in konqueror, right click, unzip
[11:12] <cello_rasp> you know, you guys can be disturbingly helpful at times
[11:13] <Stork> soundray, well i don't think it was quake, because the sound went a little wierd before that
[11:13] <mwe> dooglus: or find -typf -name "*.zip" -exec unzip {} \;
[11:13] <mwe> dooglus: :)
[11:13] <mitrovarr> SweetestSavage:  Alternately, most livecds have an option to enable it.  Which one are you using?
[11:13] <_jason> cello_rasp, apparently I have no clue what you are trying to do :P
[11:13] <Stork> soundray, it's a shame because i was really far, i had my grenade launcher out and was blasing strogg..
[11:13] <SweetestSavage> mitrovarr, AMD64
[11:13] <SweetestSavage> Breezy Badger of course
[11:13] <cello_rasp> that makes two of us :D
[11:13] <mitrovarr> SweetestSavage:  I meant which livecd.  Do you mean you're using ubuntu livecd?
[11:13] <phiber_optic> can somebody hel me please?
[11:14] <JDigital> Uh-oh, I'm having a different problem now with gparted.
[11:14] <JDigital> I can't seem to expand this partition.
[11:14] <mwe> too bad it's hard to change a laptop keyboard :|
[11:14] <StokesTheorem> Earlier I asked about the command mkinitrd...  I figured it out.  The command is obtained via downloading a package.  Probably one of the many found via the search "initrd" in Synaptic.
[11:14] <dooglus> mwe: find -exec is ok, but not as flexible as the | while read thing.
[11:14] <SweetestSavage> mitrovarr, yes
[11:14] <JDigital> I have a FAT32 partition, then an Extended partition which contains an ext2 partition and a linux-swap partition.
[11:14] <mwe> dooglus: for just one command it's fine I think
[11:15] <soundray> Stork, I would try a couple more web searches. You can also pose the question here again (and I'll keep out this time). If all else fails, do a reinstall. Sorry I've run out of better recommendations.
[11:15] <cas> phiber_optic: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[11:15] <dooglus> mwe: for instance, if zou wanted to rename all .MP3 files to .mp3 files, I don't think find -exec could do it
[11:15] <JDigital> But even if I shrink the fat32, I can't resize the extended partition to the left to take up the space
[11:15] <Stork> it's alright. thanks for the help so far
[11:15] <Stork> soundray, although, if i can't get it working then i give up with linux, and it's back to gaming for me
[11:15] <captainredbeard> is there a gnome-clipboard-daemon for breexy?
[11:15] <soundray> mwe, I changed mine on an Acer laptop. It was easy, if somewhat pricey (80 Euros)
[11:15] <dooglus> stupid Windows XP keeps switching the keyboard from English to Czech!
[11:15] <StokesTheorem> question - I'm trying to run a script which has 'uname -r' (the ' is pat of the command!) at the end of one of them, and it is giving me trouble.  Any idea what that generally does?
[11:15] <mwe> dooglus: right
[11:15] <mitrovarr> SweetestSavage:  Oh, I don't know anything about ubuntu livecd.  I'll see if I can't look it up.
[11:15] <_jason> dooglus, mwe, so is that just to unzip recursively basically?
[11:15] <action09> rah
[11:16] <acid2> Hey, I use a widescreen monitor with a max res of 1440x900, but gnome max'es too 1280x768
[11:16] <acid2> Any ideas?
[11:16] <Avesha> u
[11:16] <dooglus> StokesTheorem: it's probably ` not ', right?
[11:16] <mwe> _jason: yeah
[11:16] <dooglus> StokesTheorem: backticks (`) run the command that's between them, and substitute the output of the command into the surrounding text.
[11:16] <cas> acid2: did you looked at your xorg.conf?
[11:16] <mwe> !tell acid2 about fixres
[11:16] <dooglus> StokesTheorem: so for instance: echo the date is `date` right now
[11:16] <soundray> Stork, many people will say that Linux isn't such a great gaming platform anyway. It has other benefits of course, but if gaming is your priority, there aren't that many options.
[11:17] <mwe> acid2: see /msg from ubotu
[11:17] <Avesha> does anyone know if the ubuntu forums are down right now?
[11:17] <acid2> mwe: ta
[11:17] <mwe> Avesha: yes they are
[11:17] <acid2> cas: Yea, just edited it
[11:17] <acid2> told it to support 1440x900
[11:17] <dooglus> StokesTheorem: you can also use $(date) instead of `date`, which is clearer IMO, and also nests
[11:17] <Avesha> I picked a hell of a day to reinstall then :(
[11:17] <cas> acid2: and restarted gdm?
[11:17] <mwe> Avesha: I can't connect at least
[11:17] <acid2> cas: Yup
[11:17] <acid2> (Was 1024x768 before)
[11:17] <mwe> Avesha: irc and wiki is up
[11:18] <cas> acid2: and it isn't visible in system->preferences->resolution?
[11:18] <Stork> soundray, i turned to linux in the start because it was more interesting, fun, stable, plus windows kept crashing
[11:18] <matthewjames> hye, can i put everything in 1 partitian?
[11:18] <StokesTheorem> doolus:  You're right, it is a `.  But I copy-pasted, so it wasn't a typing error.
[11:18] <fsancho> hi all
[11:18] <mwe> acid2: you need to go over the wiki
[11:18] <fsancho> i have a strange problem with breezy
[11:18] <mitrovarr> SweetestSavage:  Alternately, it could be that your hard drive is partially failed, or some files are corrupted without the whole thing being ruined.  Just because you can access a drive and get files off of it doesn't mean that it necessarily works completely or can be booted from.
[11:18] <fsancho> i have installed in a IBM thinkpad 600X
[11:18] <phiber_optic> can someone help me, my webcam is detected on the usb, but when I use camorama it says could not connect to video device /dev/video0
[11:18] <dooglus> Linux would be great if it was more popular - then it would get better support for games, hardware, and pretty much everything.
[11:18] <matthewjames> hye, can i put everything in 1 partitian?
[11:18] <JDigital> Linux isn't good for gaming. If you want to game, go dual-boot Windows/Linux
[11:18] <dooglus> as it is, we're kind of lagging behind Windows in some ways.
[11:18] <fsancho> everything seems to work ok
[11:18] <SweetestSavage> mitrovarr, alright, well the only way would be to reformat it completely, correct?
[11:18] <soundray> Stork, if you paid money for Quake, you could ask the manufacturer for support.
[11:18] <mwe> acid2: you need to fill in the HorizSync and VertRefresh
[11:19] <StokesTheorem> dooglus:  Good call though.  I'm particularly glad I wasn't hand-typing all of it.
[11:19] <JDigital> matthewjames, depends what you mean by everything
[11:19] <mitrovarr> SweetestSavage:  I don't know if I'd go that far, but I'd definately back up everything on the drive you want RIGHT AWAY
[11:19] <matthewjames> everything to run ubunu
[11:19] <fsancho> but i can't get any sound using alsa drivers, but if i use alsa's OSS emulation it works
[11:19] <SweetestSavage> mitrovarr, already done
[11:19] <JDigital> yeah
[11:19] <hawking> I want to change may keyboard layout but I can't ... at the boot screen I get this error : "KDSETKEYCODE : Invalid argument , failed to set scancode 5d to keycode 256 , failed to set scancode aa to keycode 256 , failed to set scancode ef to keycode 256 ... how can i fix this? any ideas?
[11:19] <offtown> hello
[11:19] <cas> phiber_optic: could be a permission problem, can you paste the output of `ls -l /dev/video0`?
[11:19] <mitrovarr> SweetestSavage:  is it a dual boot drive?
[11:19] <mwe> hawking: that's a non harmful ubuntu bug
[11:20] <Stork> soundray, i don't think they officially support it natively on linux
[11:20] <soundray> dooglus, I think Linux is popular enough to warrant broad support on economical grounds. I suspect that it is being suppressed.
[11:20] <SweetestSavage> mitrovarr, no, Linux-only
[11:20] <matthewjames> can i make 1 partitian for everything to run ubuntu?
[11:20] <captainredbeard> is there a gnome-clipboard-daemon for breezy?
[11:20] <mitrovarr> SweetestSavage:  I was going to suggest booting off the other partition to see if it would work, which would tell us if it was hardware-failed or just a messed up file system
[11:20] <soundray> dooglus, not in a conspiracy theory sense, but by marketing types who don't know any better.
[11:20] <dooglus> soundray: at least it's still legal to use it.
[11:20] <hawking> mve : non harmful ? well my layout doesn't work
[11:20] <cas> matthewjames: you need a separate swap disk
[11:20] <JDigital> soundray, I think manufacturers are reluctant to support Linux because it's a very small fraction of the desktop market
[11:20] <offtown> how can I install yahoo messenger?
[11:20] <SweetestSavage> mitrovarr, yeah.. I know. I would have done that if the option was available
[11:20] <mitrovarr> SweetestSavage:  I don't know if it's a hard drive problem for sure, so you might want someone else to look over the problem before you do anything drastic, I just thought it was a possibility.
[11:20] <matthewjames> k, in what size?
[11:20] <JDigital> offtown, the Linux equivalent is GAIM
[11:21] <soundray> JDigital, that is precisely the opposite of the point I'm arguing.
[11:21] <phiber_optic> luis@luis:~$ ls -l /dev/video0
[11:21] <phiber_optic> ls: /dev/video0: No such file or directory
[11:21] <mwe> hawking: ubuntu scripts are broken as they try to use setkeycodes exx 256 and 255 is the highest allowed number
[11:21] <SweetestSavage> mitrovarr, I don't mind reformatting at all, if it'll fix it that is.
[11:21] <cas> matthewjames: what you want, some ppl like the rule twice your memory
[11:21] <JDigital> soundray, you think Microsoft or someone is paying people not to support Linux?
[11:21] <hawking> mwe : so my problem doesn't have to do anything with this as it seems right?
[11:21] <matthewjames> what size parts should i have for main and swap?
[11:21] <mwe> hawking: I don't think so
[11:21] <Johnny0> Hello all
[11:21] <soundray> JDigital, I think if you take a balanced look at the market, you will find plenty of commercial potential for Linux products.
[11:21] <hawking> mwe : thanks
[11:21] <mitrovarr> SweetestSavage:  It might, if it's a file system problem it should fix it for sure.  But if it's a screwed up hard drive, it won't of course, since no fix is possible.
[11:21] <dooglus> hawking: you should search on http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ to see if anyone else has reported the bug, and if not, report it yourself.  that's how things get fixed.
[11:22] <offtown> can you show me tthe procedure\
[11:22] <Johnny0> Trying to install crossover office - what do I use to open a .sh file type ?
[11:22] <matthewjames> what size parts should i have for main and swap?
[11:22] <SweetestSavage> mitrovarr, yea, I know. I know for a fact the hard drive isn't screwed up.
[11:22] <hawking> dooglus : oh yeah I'll do that
[11:22] <dooglus> Johnny0: use "bash <file.sh>"
[11:22] <JDigital> Balanced, schmalanced. Linux is still a little frayed around the edges when it comes to the desktop.
[11:22] <soundray> JDigital, no, I don't think they are as obvious at this point.
[11:22] <cas> Johnny0: sh ;)
[11:22] <dooglus> the thing I find most annoying about Linux's desktop is that it has 2 separate clipboards.
[11:22] <mitrovarr> SweetestSavage:  I guess reformatting could help.  I wish I could fix the specific problem, but if fsck refuses to fix it and the installer can't even see the partition it's probably unsurvivable.
[11:22] <matthewjames> what size partitians should i have for main and swap?
[11:22] <caya> does someone know a bittorrent client like azureus for gnome? azureus makes gnome run pretty slow ...
[11:23] <JDigital> dooglus, that's one problem I have with it, too
[11:23] <flankk> English forums down?
[11:23] <dooglus> I use xmrxt as a terminal.  if I copy stuff from there, and paste into firefox, I don't get what I copied.  I get something older
[11:23] <mitrovarr> I think linux does ok on the desktop if you work on it enough.
[11:23] <JDigital> If you quit a program you lose its clipboard
[11:23] <SweetestSavage> mitrovarr, yep, oh well. I didn't have a whole lot on the partitions anyways. Reformatting isn't a big deal.
[11:23] <dell500> what app do you use for an ipod? gtkpod seems to mess up a lot
[11:23] <Johnny0> lol
[11:23] <floo> Can anyone tell me how to make minimized windows appear on the panel?  Whenever I minimize a window it just dissapaears and there's no button to vclick on the panel to let me maximise it.  Any ideas?
[11:23] <mitrovarr> the real problem I see for mass adoption is not that it is hard to use, but that it's hard to configure.
[11:23] <JDigital> Global clipboard is a luxury we've come to expect
[11:23] <soundray> JDigital, may be so. But the kind of person who chooses Linux is on average someone well worth selling stuff to.
[11:23] <matthewjames> what size partitians should i have for main and swap?
[11:23] <dooglus> I find that I have to copy from xmrvt, paste into Emacs, then copy from Emacs and paste into firefox.  that works every time, but it's a pain!
[11:23] <JDigital> soundray, I agree
[11:23] <mitrovarr> Like the average windows power-user who installs programs and drivers with impunity might have a hard time doing the same on linux
[11:23] <caya> dell: i use gnupod
[11:23] <soundray> JDigital, the potential of this market is being underestimated in a serious way.
[11:23] <JDigital> mitrovarr, yeah
[11:24] <Stork> eurgh this is awful
[11:24] <phiber_optic> but when I do lusus i guet Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[11:24] <phiber_optic> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[11:24] <phiber_optic> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[11:24] <phiber_optic> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 043e:8585 LG Electronics USA, Inc. LPC-UC35 Webcam
[11:24] <Stork> !tell phiber_optic about pastebin
[11:24] <mitrovarr> soundray:  I think it hurts linux support for games/software that almost all linux users dual boot and will not avoid buying something because of windows-only support.
[11:24] <matthewjames> what size partitians should i have for main and swap?
[11:24] <mwe> hawking: is your layout broken in X or the console?
[11:24] <caya> does someone know a bittorrent client like azureus for gnome? azureus makes gnome run pretty slow ...
[11:24] <phiber_optic> thanx
[11:24] <dell500> caya, i tried getting that, no apt-get
[11:25] <dooglus> caya: azureus is about the best you'll find for ubuntu
[11:25] <matthewjames> what size partitians should i have for main and swap?
[11:25] <JDigital> soundray, Linux desktop is still maybe only 1% of the desktop market.
[11:25] <JDigital> brrt
[11:25] <mitrovarr> LInux desktops can work surprising well for non-power users, though
[11:25] <ubuntu> waz up shiznits?
[11:25] <dooglus> caya: none of the other clients use dht very well, so you tend not to find enough peers to share with.
[11:25] <brrrt> ?
[11:25] <ssam> matthewjames, swap about double the size of your ram
[11:25] <mitrovarr> I switched my mom's computer over to linux and she hardly noticed, except for a few icons moving around and the computer suddenly speeding up dramatically.
[11:25] <soundray> mitrovarr, I agree. Still, if you make a selling point of your product having free drivers, you're tapping into vast commercial potential.
[11:25] <matthewjames> k
[11:25] <JDigital> Linux, in my experience, is a mixture of "oh wow, this is so much better than Windows" and "ugh, why can't this be as straightforward as it is in Windows"
[11:25] <matthewjames> what bout main?
[11:26] <soundray> JDigital, that's only if you count dual-boot machines as Windows PCs.
[11:26] <cas> phiber_optic: see in your dmesg if you can fidn out what file in your dev is your webcam. (I never used one so I dunno, but some usb/firewire are detected as disks and so have wrong permissions)
[11:26] <cas> phiber_optic: also be sure your user is in the right groups
[11:26] <matthewjames> ssam, what about for main part?
[11:26] <ssam> matthewjames, all the rest of your space
[11:26] <JDigital> The kind of people who can make Linux simpler to use are the kind of people who can use it just fine.
[11:26] <mitrovarr> soundray, that's true of hardware.  But I think linux makes it harder for itself by having lukewarm acceptance for non-free, binary only drivers.  I know a lot of companies are paranoid with their stuff and don't want the specs getting out.
[11:26] <cyber> oieeeeeeee
[11:26] <brrrt> hi all
[11:26] <matthewjames> cant
[11:26] <mwe> JDigital: yeah. and "ARGHH why can't I play my favorite game in Linux"
[11:26] <matthewjames> i want windows space still;
[11:26] <dooglus> ssam: why do people always suggest that the more RAM you have, the more swap you'll need?  surely it works the other way around.  If I had 100Gb of RAM I wouldn't need any swap at all
[11:26] <ssam> matthewjames, as much as you have free
[11:27] <phiber_optic> sorry cas, but how do I do that
[11:27] <matthewjames> k, is 15 gb good?
[11:27] <phiber_optic> im basically new to linux
[11:27] <caya> dell: try apt-cache search gnupod
[11:27] <brrrt> how do make the nvidia 8178 driver install permanent?
[11:27] <JDigital> Despite what people say, Linux is really only good if you're technically minded or have technically minded support available.
[11:27] <mitrovarr> mwe:  That is true.  I wish Cedega wasn't such a annoying, subscription-based thing.
[11:27] <cyber> hi how are you???
[11:27] <flankk> English forums down?
[11:27] <matthewjames> ssam, 15 GB good?
[11:27] <ssam> dooglus, so we don't have to change what we say every few years
[11:27] <soundray> JDigital, s/Linux/Windows and your statement is still true.
[11:27] <brrrt> no linux is for noobs ;)
[11:27] <ssam> matthewjames, that is plenty :-)
[11:27] <JDigital> I hear the latest WINE actually has better support for DirectX than Cedega
[11:27] <matthewjames> k, and is there a partitianer in installer?
[11:27] <dell500> caya, is it console based?
[11:28] <mitrovarr> JDigital, windows can get pretty ugly when people aren't technically minded or have technically minded support available too.
[11:28] <JDigital> soundray, haha, it's true
[11:28] <flankk> brrrt, Different distros are designed for different audiences.
[11:28] <JDigital> but Linux is even less newbie-friendly
[11:28] <soundray> mitrovarr, I agree -- but I think vendors are just silly with that secrecy stuff.
[11:28] <JDigital> at least in some ways
[11:28] <caya> dell: yepp but it works really good
[11:28] <bensode> Looks like the ubuntu forums are down?
[11:28] <brrrt> flankk: sure
[11:28] <ssam> dooglus, apparently even if you have loads of ram a bit of swap is good
[11:28] <dell500> caya, how do you use it? or link maybe?
[11:28] <GTroy> JDigital: my roommate screws up windows so bad, I have to put him on linux
[11:28] <JDigital> in some ways Linux is much much better
[11:28] <mitrovarr> soundray, I agree.  Like we're going to steal their precious, precious winprinter/winmodem drivers.
[11:28] <matthewjames> does the installer have a parter?
[11:28] <soundray> mitrovarr, people who think like that should be in espionage, not hardware development.
[11:28] <mwe> dooglus: there is some sanitity to the swap should be 2xRAM for moderate ram sizes
[11:28] <cas> phiber_optic: can your paste your dmesg on pastebin? http://pastebin.com/
[11:28] <mitrovarr> lol
[11:28] <dell500> JDigital: i agree, games are good on winbloze though
[11:28] <sskk> I read that if I install the fglrx-control package I will have a "control panel" for adjusting my graphics driver. I've installed it now, but uhm... where do I find this panel?
[11:28] <moike_> Hey is the Ubuntu PPC channel, #ubuntu-ppc?
[11:28] <caya> dell: link: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnupod/gnupod.html
[11:28] <floo> I can't get buttons to appear on my panel when i minimize.  any ideas?
[11:29] <matthewjames> does the installer have a parter?
[11:29] <dooglus> mwe: if I only had 64Mb of RAM, I'd want more than 2x that in swap
[11:29] <JDigital> In Windows it was often easy for me to sort out problems. In Linux I have to go on IRC and ask someone, and they'll tell me "oh just use this obscurely-named command line"
[11:29] <phiber_optic> sure
[11:29] <mitrovarr> soundray, the stupid thing is that if they'd just publish their damn specs half the time they'd get their drivers made for free
[11:29] <dooglus> matthewjames: it does
[11:29] <mwe> dooglus: you wouldn't run ubuntu with 64mb RAM
[11:29] <matthewjames> k, and can it delete em to?
[11:29] <dooglus> mwe: I could, I think
[11:29] <mwe> dooglus: I doubnt it
[11:29] <mwe> doubt*
[11:29] <mitrovarr> JDigital, that's true.  I think ubuntu needs to include more slightly non-free things to be more usable, like mp3 codecs and nvidia/ati drivers.
[11:30] <JDigital> What I think Linux needs is  a really good user manual
[11:30] <JDigital> a paper one
[11:30] <soundray> JDigital, you've been lucky with your Windows problems then. The thing is, if you're stuck in Windows, you're really stuck.
[11:30] <dooglus> mwe: I'd probably have to use something other than GNOME, but if I just wanted it to serve web pages, 64Mb would be enough
[11:30] <mwe> dooglus: if you need to swap more than twice you physical ram your system would be crawling
[11:30] <matthewjames> dooglus, can it delete parts also?
[11:30] <cas> JDigital: Linux is harder in the begin, but once you understand the basics you'll almost understand everything you need to know
[11:30] <GTroy> cas: very true
[11:30] <mitrovarr> JDigital, I dunno about that.  Most people with the wit to use a manual have the wit to use google.
[11:30] <JDigital> cas: I agree, it just has a steeper learning curve
[11:30] <dooglus> matthewjames: I believe so.  It uses gparted I think, or something like that.
[11:30] <mwe> dooglus: I'm talking about running X
[11:30] <phiber_optic> cas I already put it
[11:30] <ssam> dooglus, if you were seriously running a system with 64mb of ram i would expect that you were running apps that need about that much ram
[11:30] <phiber_optic> but I dont really understand anything
[11:30] <dell500> caya, looks pretty sweet and self-explanitory :)
[11:30] <matthewjames> k, an is ot formatted automaticly?
[11:30] <mwe> dooglus: ie a desktop environment
[11:31] <turbofisk> howdi
[11:31] <cas> phiber_optic: found it
[11:31] <mitrovarr> JDigital I think linux just needs more good tools.  Like I had to hand-configure my xorg.conf to do dual-monitors.  I shouldn't have to do that.
[11:31] <GTroy> JDigital: I found linux waaaay easier to use/configure than windows
[11:31] <ssam> dooglus, so adding a gig of swap would be silly
[11:31] <cas> phiber_optic: i mean the message :)
[11:31] <soundray> JDigital, the big advantage in Linux is discoverability. That 'obscure' command you read on IRC will be second-nature for you tomorrow.
[11:31] <WildTangent> forums down?
[11:31] <mwe> dooglus: I think even fluxbox would crawl with 64MB ram and you should think about running firefox
[11:31] <matthewjames> dooglus, does it formatt automatticly/
[11:31] <JDigital> mitrovarr, Yeah, that's one of the kind of thing that Windows does more straightforwardly.
[11:31] <dooglus> ssam: it depends.  if I'm only going to use one app at a time, but keep the others running (and swapped out) that's fine
[11:31] <phiber_optic> nice :)
[11:31] <dooglus> matthewjames: yes
[11:31] <matthewjames> k
[11:31] <ssam> dooglus, if you had 4gb of ram then you are probably doing big work and could do with a few gb of swap
[11:31] <matthewjames> ty for u help
[11:31] <mitrovarr> JDigital I mean, you'd think someone would make a tool to do that.
[11:31] <JDigital> When Linux does user-friendliness well, it really beats Windows. When it doesn't, it's awfully nuts-and-bolts.
[11:31] <GTroy> mitrovarr: galengusdorf.com look for my setup!!!
[11:31] <dooglus> matthewjames: it will even resize NTFS partitions if you're lucky
[11:31] <mitrovarr> JDigital I wish I could, but I can't code
[11:32] <flankk> mitrovarr, how often do you need to do that, anyways?
[11:32] <turbofisk> having trouble with getting artwiz to work on my fluxbox/ubuntu... they show up in xlsfonts and xfontsel, but when I choose it in a theme it doesn't show up
[11:32] <turbofisk> anyone got any ideas?
[11:32] <mitrovarr> dual monitors?
[11:32] <JDigital> If you could code well enough to make the tool, you wouldn't need the tool.
[11:32] <GTroy> yeah!!!
[11:32] <brrrt> i already added nvidia to my /etc/modules file but it doesnt seem to load at startup :( how can i manage that?
[11:32] <matthewjames> and  computers have a boot selecter aout installed right, to choose what partitian to use at startup?
[11:32] <soundray> JDigital, mitrovarr, I tried to configure dual-monitor on a windows laptop. The results were and still are absolutely unpredictable.
[11:32] <mitrovarr> a lot, because I use internet tv stations, but also cable
[11:32] <ssam> dooglus, so swap = 2 x RAM, lets you have 2 or 3  apps open and swap between them
[11:32] <turbofisk> soundray: amen to that
[11:32] <mitrovarr> so I watch internet TV on my TV using my TV-out, but I also need to turn it off to use my TV with cable
[11:32] <dooglus> I've put ubuntu on old Windows boxes for friends and they've barely noticed the difference, other than that "the web goes quicker"
[11:33] <mitrovarr> dooglus I had the same experience with my mom.  For non-power users, it's very easy
[11:33] <flankk> mitrovarr, you only need to configure something once.  AFAIK KDE has an included utility for dual monitors.
[11:33] <JDigital> Ah, true.
[11:33] <dooglus> if they don't know much about computers, and just want to buy shoes on-line, then ubuntu is fine for newbies.  show then what to click instead of the "blue e" and away they go.
[11:33] <matthewjames> dooglus: k, when i part and ubuntu is installed is there a boot selcter autoinstalled?
[11:33] <mitrovarr> flankk:  gnome doesn't, not that I know of.
[11:33] <JDigital> dooglus, good thing Firefox's logo is a blue circle :)
[11:33] <turbofisk> anyone want to help me with artwiz-fonts in ubuntu?
[11:33] <Red-Sox> hey
[11:33] <Stork> anyone know that command to graphically configure xserver from the command line? "dpkg-configure" or something..
[11:33] <mitrovarr> flankk:  and I did get a permanent config going with metamodes
[11:34] <action09> turbofisk no: )
[11:34] <dooglus> matthewjames: it installs grub by default.  it messed things up for me, but I think my disk's MBR is in a bit of a mess.  I've not heard much about it causing problems.
[11:34] <Red-Sox> can someone please walk me through how to emulate ubuntu on win32?
[11:34] <ssam> matthewjames, thats done automatically and the dual booting is set up
[11:34] <Dreamglider> can i get video to work on Skype 2.0.0.69 with Wine ?
[11:34] <soundray> dooglus, you can even teach command line operation to an intelligent, naive user. They'll pick it up in no time.
[11:34] <mwe> Stork: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. back up xorg.conf first though
[11:34] <dooglus> Stork: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I think
[11:34] <matthewjames> k, so when i start up computer it says either start up in windows or linux right?
[11:34] <JDigital> I picked up command-line easily because the Amiga had it. The problem is the commands. What is named straightforwardly in Amiga is named cryptically in Linux.
[11:34] <dooglus> matthewjames: you get 4 options as I remember it: ubuntu, rescue, memcheck and windows.
[11:34] <ssam> matthewjames,  yep
[11:35] <matthewjames> k,ty for u help
[11:35] <action09> Stork  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:35] <Stork> mwe, no point, i can't screw this up any more
[11:35] <ssam> matthewjames, hope you like it, have fun
[11:35] <dooglus> JDigital: wt --on-earth="do you mean" ?
[11:35] <matthewjames> oh, and i can delete parts also right?
[11:35] <mwe> Stork: alright go ahead then :)
[11:35] <mitrovarr> GTroy:  video will play across both screens using nvidia hardware and twinview.  I know you aren't using nvidia stuff, but I thought you might be interested in knowing it was possible.
[11:35] <soundray> dooglus, :D
[11:35] <jayr> funny I can't get into http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[11:35] <Ribs> JDigital: What's named cryptically in Linux?
[11:35] <specialbuddy> how do you add repositories
[11:35] <dooglus> !universe
[11:35] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:35] <sline_crecature> me too jayr
[11:35] <soundray> jayr, same here.
[11:36] <Ribs> JDigital: I'd say it's just because you're used to the Amiga CLI than Linux's shell right now :)
[11:36] <Stork> AHA! IT WORKS!!
[11:36] <sline_crecature> that's what i came to ask about, actually...does anyone know what's going on?
[11:36] <ompaul> Ribs, what do you mean?
[11:36] <dooglus> Ribs: most of the commands are...  "ls" instead of "dir", "mv" instead of "move", "cp" instead of "copy", etc...
[11:36] <soundray> Stork, wow! I'm glad you haven't given up.
[11:36] <haasteem> hi, how can i check if alsa is running in blackbox?
[11:36] <GTroy> mitrovarr: maybe on my next machine :D
[11:37] <Stork> soundray, that command never ceases to amaze me.
[11:37] <soundray> That's another thing about Linux: it rewards persistence.
[11:37] <Ribs> dooglus: indeed. But because I'm used to Linux's commands, they don't seem at all cryptic to me
[11:37] <Ribs> It's just second nature
[11:37] <JDigital> Ubuntu is good for entry-level basic use. For power users, it has a steeper learning curve than Windows and lacks some of the features and software that a former Windows user will miss.
[11:37] <GTroy> mitrovarr: thanks though, good to know
[11:37] <matthewjames> dooglus: u can also delete parts right?
[11:37] <dooglus> Ribs: of course.  but for a newbie even "ls" looks like a magic spell
[11:37] <dooglus> matthewjames: I think so.  Why don't you try it?
[11:37] <JDigital> I agree
[11:37] <Ribs> dooglus: As does 'dir' in Amiga CLI :)
[11:37] <matthewjames> i will, wish me luck, downloadidng now'
[11:37] <Ribs> Each to their own I guess
[11:38] <Steve^> Hey, how can I automatically mount my SuSE linux and Windows partitions, so I can see them in the file manager?
[11:38] <Ribs> I really miss AmigaOS ... If only Commadore didn't go bust :(
[11:38] <mitrovarr> GTroy:  Although twinview is smart enough not to maximize across screens, so you'll have to manually drag if you want it.
[11:38] <JDigital> Ribs, but delete on Amiga is "delete", not "rm"
[11:38] <Stork> soundray, except there's no sound, xmms won't load up and quake4 still doesn't work ;)
[11:38] <dooglus> matthewjames: if the installer doesn't let you, you can always use control-alt-F2 to get to a real shell prompt and run "fdisk /dev/hda" from there, delete the partition, then control-alt-F1 to get back to the installer.
[11:38] <mitrovarr> GTroy:  I think it even worked with accelerated 3d graphics
[11:38] <Ribs> JDigital: You say Delete, some may say 'remove', which rm is short for
[11:38] <GTroy> mitrovarr: do you use video on both screens?  is it nice?
[11:38] <Ribs> JDigital: I think it's just the gnu coders being lazy :)
[11:38] <dell500> Anyone here know how to get gnupod-tools working on breezy? says its installed...
[11:38] <JDigital> pretty much, yeah :)
[11:38] <haasteem> hi, how can i check if alsa is running in blackbox?... i suspect something is not right with my sound now that i run ubuntu in blackbox...
[11:38] <Dreamglider> how can i kill a process ?
[11:38] <dooglus> Steve^: you need to add lines to your /etc/fstab to do that.
[11:39] <soundray> Stork, but you're familiar with that situation now, aren't you?
[11:39] <mwe> Dreamglider: kill
[11:39] <mitrovarr> GTroy:  No, my screens are several feet apart, so it would look like ass.
[11:39] <Steve^> dooglus, is there a program to add lines for me?
[11:39] <dooglus> Steve^: "man fstab" will give you the manual page
[11:39] <matthewjames> dooglus: will it name and mount partitians automatticly?
[11:39] <mwe> Dreamglider: or killall
[11:39] <Orborde> Under which package would I find the watch command?
[11:39] <dooglus> Steve^: maybe.  I don't know it though.
[11:39] <jayr> Dreamglider: top k type in process id
[11:39] <GTroy> mitrovarr: hehehehe
[11:39] <Drfalkor> Wasup ?
[11:39] <mitrovarr> GTroy:  I eventually took the second monitor off for working with an experimental OpenBSD server.
[11:39] <Dreamglider> like kill skype or wikk wine ?
[11:39] <dooglus> Orborde: it's in the procps package
[11:39] <soundray> Orborde, procps
[11:39] <matthewjames> dooglus: will it name and mount partitians automatticly?
[11:39] <JDigital> I'm tempted almost to just buy a big hard drive and install Windows and Linux from scratch there. All this partitioning is complicated.
[11:39] <GTroy> mitrovarr: ah, hehe gotcha
[11:39] <Orborde> dooglus / soundray : Thank
[11:39] <Stork> soundray, i'm not sure. i have that "Segmentation fault" again
[11:39] <Orborde> s
[11:40] <Drfalkor> How long will it take before the dapper get's released as a beta
[11:40] <dooglus> matthewjames: I don't know.  if not, you can edit /etc/fstab manually after installation
[11:40] <mitrovarr> GTroy:  But for a while if I wanted to, I could have 2 computers with 4 monitors active in the same room.  Now that's power!!
[11:40] <Drfalkor> ?
[11:40] <matthewjames> neb here
[11:40] <matthewjames> newb*
[11:40] <GTroy> mitrovarr: tfts?
[11:40] <ompaul> Dreamglider, >kill -9 PID_OF_command< cruel but effective, >killall command< again cruel, however to be cruel with a big stick use >sudo kill -9 PID< or >sudo killall foo<
[11:40] <Malachi> Is their any way I can substitute the system bell with another sound?
[11:40] <mitrovarr> GTroy:  No, crts all.  That's what I meant by power; I think it dimmed the lights.
[11:40] <diesmo> hello
[11:40] <brrrt> is there another way than /etc/modules to define which modules to load at startup?
[11:40] <dooglus> Orborde: to find that out, I ran:   apt-file search bin/watch | grep 'watch$'
[11:40] <thechitowncubs> I can't get access to my Cups daemon from another computer on my network and i specificly said to allow my ip but I still can't connect to the Cups Webserver
[11:40] <mwe> Drfalkor: isn't it by now? or is it considered alfa. Im not sure
[11:41] <sline_crecature> matthewjames: yes, it will at boot time
[11:41] <phiber_optic> cas so is it there?
[11:41] <JDigital> Ooh, SATA. Can you dualboot Linux on SATA?
[11:41] <Dreamglider> how do i kill wine then
[11:41] <GTroy> mitrovarr: hehehe that's great, well funny for me anyway
[11:41] <stat> anyone recommend a gnome process manager?
[11:41] <cas> phiber_optic: can't find anything about it sorry
[11:41] <diesmo> i want to install ubuntu but i wonder which distrib tu use, could someone help please?
[11:41] <soundray> JDigital, yes, you can.
[11:41] <GTroy> prolly not for you
[11:41] <madewokherd> Dreamglider: killall wine-preloader
[11:41] <mitrovarr> anyone dual-boot linux and xp?
[11:41] <Dreamglider> or how do i find the PID for wine
[11:41] <Dreamglider> oh ok
[11:41] <mwe> mitrovarr: lots of people
[11:41] <JDigital> Is it any different from dualbooting Linux on normal IDE?
[11:41] <gnomefreak> mitrovarr, yes
[11:41] <phiber_optic> where can i find some informations about webcams?
[11:41] <grogoreo> hi
[11:41] <soundray> JDigital, not really.
[11:42] <mitrovarr> do the built in installers for ubunto work for that, or do you still have to use the old trick with making a file out of the bootloader and using the xp bootloader to load it
[11:42] <diesmo> i want to install ubuntu but i wonder which distrib tu use, could someone help please? :)
[11:42] <Frnk> I have problems compiling C programs, i get stdio.h: No such file or directory, and i try to install libc6-dev but i can install it, i get a broken package error in apt-get
[11:42] <lsuactiafner> JDigital : no difference, just use a very new kernel to boot your linux
[11:42] <grogoreo> I have a 'bin' foler in my home directory, but when I type in a command it doesn't work. But if I put it into the root bin folder (/bin) it does work.
[11:42] <soundray> JDigital, depending on your chipset, your disk device could be /dev/sda instead of /dev/hda.
[11:42] <dooglus> Drfalkor: the dapper beta release is scheduled for March 23rd
[11:42] <platos> diesmo: use the breezy release
[11:42] <CanYouHelpMePlz> diesmo: breez
[11:42] <gnomefreak> mitrovarr, grub will see xp nad add it to the bootloader automaticly
[11:42] <GTroy> diesmo: use breezy!!!!!
[11:42] <Klementas> is there some reason that root can't mount a drive in Breezy ??
[11:42] <JDigital> lsuactiafner, does Ubuntu Breezy count as "very new"?
[11:42] <omer> how can i enter to terminal consol in ubuntu
[11:42] <mitrovarr> gnomefreak:  And that actually works?  It didn't used to, at least with old installers.
[11:42] <diesmo> platos ok thanx, is that the most up to date regarding software ?
[11:42] <dooglus> Drfalkor: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule for various dapper dates
[11:42] <gnomefreak> mitrovarr, yes it works
[11:42] <CanYouHelpMePlz> omer: applications>accesories
[11:42] <Drfalkor> dooglus, thnx
[11:42] <phiber_optic> how can I modify the grub menu.. since every time I update there is different images to but from
[11:43] <omer> thx
[11:43] <platos> diesmo: well dapper is in beta, but it has still alot of bugs
[11:43] <diesmo> GTroy what about Dapper ?
[11:43] <CanYouHelpMePlz> omer: no problem
[11:43] <mitrovarr> gnomefreak:  Good to know.  I have it working with the old file trick method, but I was curious if they'd fixed that.
[11:43] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell phillyb about grub
[11:43] <Steve^> If I want to install new ram in my PC, can I use my old ram with it?
[11:43] <dooglus> platos: I don't think it's in beta yet
[11:43] <GTroy> diesmo: too new, not enough support
[11:43] <Steve^> Do they have to be the same type?
[11:43] <diesmo> platos oki it is equivalent to debian sarge then ?
[11:43] <ompaul> !dapper
[11:43] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[11:43] <JDigital> Does anyone know if Breezy will let me dualboot on SATA?
[11:43] <michael> simple question - how do you use the chown command to change permissions from root to user
[11:43] <gnomefreak> mitrovarr, ubuntu will most others will also
[11:43] <Moratorium> ok, I finally have a gui for my ubuntu
[11:43] <dooglus> platos: the beta freeze is March 16th, and beta release March 23rd
[11:43] <ompaul> diesmo, read that note from ubotu in channel!
[11:43] <soundray> JDigital, of course it will.
[11:43] <JDigital> 4/20 never forget
[11:43] <Drfalkor> dooglus, I was just wondering.. does the ubuntu dev team work together in a room or something ? do they make money? or are they just using their free time to develop ubuntu ?
[11:44] <platos> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[11:44] <platos> daily release of dapper ^^
[11:44] <dooglus> Drfalkor: I think they all work from home.
[11:44] <diesmo> ompaul which note ?
[11:44] <ompaul> !dapper
[11:44] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[11:44] <dooglus> Drfalkor: there is a small paid staff - I think maybe 10 people
[11:44] <Moratorium> but now everytime I try and plug my usb mouse in it just freezes up and or crashes
[11:44] <soundray> michael, 'sudo chown username.usergroup file'
[11:44] <Moratorium> can anyone help?
[11:44] <diesmo> ompaul lol ok :)
[11:44] <dooglus> Drfalkor: and most of the money to develop ubuntu comes from Mark Shuttleworth's bottomless bank account :)
[11:44] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  Try booting up with the mouse installed, that might help... but  probably not.
[11:44] <diesmo> then breezy it will be :)
[11:44] <Moratorium> no it doesnt
[11:45] <michael> ty
[11:45] <diesmo> ompaul platos GTroy thanks for helping
[11:45] <Moratorium> it freezes almost at the login
[11:45] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  Hmm... is it a really old computer?
[11:45] <Drfalkor> dooglus, ok - thnx, so - this is their fulltime job ?:P
[11:45] <soundray> diesmo, good decision.
[11:45] <mwe> Moratorium: you need to check the log files
[11:45] <Moratorium> no, its a brand new laptop
[11:45] <phiber_optic> how can I modify the grub menu.. since every time I update there is different images to but from
[11:45] <dooglus> Drfalkor: I'll see if I can find the webpage where I read that.
[11:45] <omer> how can i enter to terminal consol in ubuntu
[11:45] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  Does it crash instantly if you plug in other types of USB devices?
[11:45] <Drfalkor> dooglus, goodie :)
[11:45] <Moratorium> and the bloody touch pad isnt working under ubuntu either
[11:45] <Stork> soundray, VICTORY! :D
[11:45] <diesmo> phiber_optic edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:45] <Frnk> I have problems compiling C programs, i get stdio.h: No such file or directory, and i try to install libc6-dev but i can install it, i get "libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14) but 2.3.5-1ubuntu12 is to be installed" in apt-get.. can anyone help me? :)
[11:46] <soundray> omer, do you mean a text console?
[11:46] <phiber_optic> thanx
[11:46] <Moratorium> give me a sec to try that
[11:46] <GTroy> Damn! WoW runs under wine 9.5?
[11:46] <omer> i think
[11:46] <mwe> Moratorium: what kind of tp?
[11:46] <soundray> Stork, so you're blasting again.
[11:46] <Orborde> How can I get something compiled under SunOS? I'm trying to compile watch myself, and it's having an aneurysm
[11:46] <mwe> Moratorium: synaptics?
[11:46] <platos> Frnk: did you try apt-get install build-essential ?
[11:46] <Klementas> is there some reason that root can't mount a drive in Breezy ??
[11:46] <mwe> Moratorium: if so you need to configure it and it will work
[11:46] <Frnk> platos: nope, ill try :P
[11:46] <Stork> soundray, yeah :) I'm going to write a guide for all my errors so i know how to fix in future
[11:46] <Orborde> I did apt-get source procps, uploaded the orig.tar.gz to the machine I was compiling it on, and it doesn't want to make
[11:46] <Stork> soundray, right after i finish this game of course ;)
[11:46] <soundray> Orborde, procps is Linux-specific, as far as I know.
[11:47] <Moratorium> yes its synaptics
[11:47] <mwe> Moratorium: in fact I've not heard of anyone not having the tp work before
[11:47] <soundray> Stork, that may be worth posting in the forums.
[11:47] <mwe> Moratorium: it works in ubuntu
[11:47] <Moratorium> mine doesnt
[11:47] <omer> help,i can not enter to consol
[11:47] <dooglus> Drfalkor: this isn't the page I was thinking of, but 3 paras up from the bottom of http://www.linuxjournal.com/comment/reply/8752 kind of confirms what I said
[11:47] <Orborde> soundray: Oh. Bother. Any way I can quickly get a version of watch for SunOS?
[11:47] <phiber_optic> what is recovery mode??
[11:47] <Stork> soundray, i'll write it soon then :)
[11:47] <omer> where is it
[11:47] <mwe> Moratorium: yes
[11:47] <mwe> Moratorium: but you need to configure
[11:47] <HymnToLife> anyone knows an office suite that is lighter than openoffice ?
[11:47] <Moratorium> and Im touching pretty damn hard
[11:47] <mwe> Moratorium: it works, trust me
[11:48] <Drfalkor> dooglus, thank you
[11:48] <Moratorium> where? in the xorg.conf?
[11:48] <mwe> Moratorium: you need to configure it
[11:48] <mwe> Moratorium: first install xorg-driver-synaptics
[11:48] <gnomefreak> good luck HymnToLife
[11:48] <Frnk> platos: dont work, i get "build-essential: Depends: libc6-dev but it is not going to be installed or libc-dev"
[11:48] <ompaul> HymnToLife, koffice
[11:48] <dooglus> HymnToLife: "gnumeric" and "abiword" are spreadsheet and word processor that are lighter.
[11:48] <platos> Frnk: hm... are you using dapper?
[11:48] <gnomefreak> koffice is lighter?
[11:48] <HymnToLife> hmyeah but Koffic is for KDE :p
[11:48] <mwe> Moratorium: I'll paste the relevant part of xorg.conf for you if you want it
[11:48] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  It's kind of a half-ass solution, but you could try the mouse with a usb/ps2 adapter if it has one.
[11:48] <omer> how can i enter to terminal consol in ubuntu,please help i can not find that
[11:49] <HymnToLife> it's to install ona really old box which has DSL on it
[11:49] <soundray> Orborde, you could try to do a shell loop along the lines of 'while true ; do cat file ; sleep 2 ; done'
[11:49] <Frnk> platos: yes
[11:49] <flogiston> Anyone who knows a good vnc over ssh viewer for windows?
[11:49] <dooglus> omer: it's on the applications menu, in system tools I think
[11:49] <Moratorium> let me configure my touch pad first
[11:49] <HymnToLife> dooglus > thanks, I'm gonna try em out
[11:49] <diesmo> dooglus or accessories
[11:49] <Frnk> platos: no, i dont
[11:49] <platos> Frnk: thought so ^^ there are still problems in dapper with stuff like that
[11:49] <omer> i m trying
[11:49] <mwe> Frnk: could indicate a broken sources.list
[11:49] <Moratorium> ok please
[11:49] <platos> Frnk: o...
[11:49] <gnomefreak> Frnk, try sudo apt-get install libc6-dev
[11:49] <Moratorium> mwe paste it please
[11:49] <diesmo> omer try the "accessories" menu
[11:49] <Moratorium> if you can find it
[11:49] <Frnk> gnomefreak: thats the problem, it dont work :P
[11:49] <mwe> Moratorium: the tp config?
[11:49] <dooglus> diesmo: I don't remember.  I'm on windows right now, and I generally use an icon on my panel to run a terminal, 'cos I do it often.
[11:49] <avouser> can anyone point me to some documentation on how rlogind and rshd are config'd in 5.10 ?
[11:50] <Moratorium> yeah
[11:50] <gnomefreak> platos, there are alot of issues left in dapper
[11:50] <mwe> Moratorium: ok
[11:50] <diesmo> dooglus and i use a french distrib :)
[11:50] <Orborde> soundray: D'oh. You're right. Tee hee.
[11:50] <Frnk> mwe: yea, it can be
[11:50] <omer> there is not accessories menu :S
[11:50] <avouser> i am having abit of trouble getting ti to work
[11:50] <platos> gnomefreak: i'm using it right now, and the edubuntu release
[11:50] <platos> gnomefreak: got it to work quite alright
[11:50] <soundray> avouser, those are deprecated AFAIK. Can you perhaps use ssh instead?
[11:50] <ompaul> platos, it is a dev platform, just like a drawing for a car that is not yet in production you can take the test model for a drive, but don't expect it to get a cert for roadworthyness
[11:50] <diesmo> omer another solution is to switch to console mode CTRL+ALT+F1 and use apt-get to install gnome-terminal if it is not installed
[11:50] <Moratorium> whats the command to install  xorg-driver-synaptics
[11:50] <dooglus> omer: what about system tools then?
[11:50] <gnomefreak> im using dapper on my other hd i had to boot to win to take care of somethings :)
[11:50] <mwe> Moratorium: did you install xorg-driver-synaptics?
[11:50] <Moratorium> no
[11:51] <gnomefreak> and build-essential installed for me without a problem
[11:51] <platos> ompaul: lol i know that, but edubuntu 6.04 has sound on thin clients and i need that
[11:51] <omer> i am looking sys tools
[11:51] <Moratorium> give me the cmnd pls
[11:51] <JDigital> In gparted, why can't I make my "extended" partition any bigger? I'm making the partition before it smaller but I can't seem to make the extended partition any bigger to the left
[11:51] <diesmo> omer then CTRL+ALT+F7 to go back to X
[11:51] <sidd> I can't update my packages because it says that I have another package management program (like apt-get) open
[11:51] <Moratorium> I know its sudo....something or other
[11:51] <dooglus> omer: you can type alt-f2 and ask it to run "gnome-terminal"
[11:51] <mwe> !paste
[11:51] <ubotu> [paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[11:51] <gnomefreak> sidd, close synaptic
[11:51] <avouser> soundray,   unfortunately i am in a stituation where rsh/rlogin is required
[11:51] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  Probably "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-synaptics"
[11:51] <sidd> what is synaptic?
[11:51] <avouser> it is turning in to a huge pain
[11:52] <Moratorium> thanks mitro
[11:52] <ompaul> platos, fine, may I ask that do you not promote dapper in this channel yet as new users *will* try it and then be upset when it fails, and btw that info on edubuntu and sound is useful for me also :-)
[11:52] <Moratorium> trying it now
[11:52] <gnomefreak> sidd what do you have open right now?
[11:52] <mitrovarr> sidd:  The nice graphical package manager
[11:52] <Moratorium> just need to get to the root
[11:52] <pmontemayor> kewl, can anyone tell me if there is a img file for Ubuntu that I can use to boot onto my Mac 8600?
[11:52] <dooglus> sidd: synaptic is a gui program for installing stuff in ubuntu
[11:52] <gnomefreak> synaptic is a packagemanager (graphical)
[11:52] <avouser> question why is mpich still compiled with rsh as default? ...
[11:52] <sidd> I don't have that open
[11:52] <GTroy> anyone played world of warcraft under wine?
[11:52] <sidd> all I have open is IRC and firefox
[11:52] <mitrovarr> sidd:  system -> administration ->  Synaptic Package Manager
[11:52] <GTroy> my local lug said cedega, but wine looks better
[11:53] <dooglus> sidd: run "ps -ef | grep -e apt -e dpkg -e synaptic | grep -v grep" - see anything?
[11:53] <phiber_optic> does anyone know how can I change the background on grub?
[11:53] <platos> ompaul: well then a last warning: dapper is still in beta with lots 'o' bugs don't try this if you don't want irritation :P
[11:53] <mwe> Moratorium: did you install the synaptics driver?
[11:53] <gnomefreak> platos, when did it hit beta?
[11:53] <Moratorium> Im working on it
[11:53] <Moratorium> I just need to get into the root
[11:53] <gnomefreak> last i heard its alpha
[11:54] <platos> gnomefreak: flight cd 2 went out awhile ago... dunno what its called
[11:54] <sidd> @dooglus  no I don't see anything
[11:54] <mwe> Moratorium: just go to a terminal and type sudo -i
[11:54] <martin> hi I'm interested in testing the development version and filing/following bug reports. How would I get this installed?
[11:54] <dooglus> platos: why do you keep saying dapper is in beta?  it's a long way off beta.
[11:54] <mwe> Moratorium: then your user password
[11:54] <gnomefreak> flight cd 2 =aplha release 2
[11:54] <Moratorium> I cant do that
[11:54] <platos> gnomefreak: flight cd 3 is about to come out soon
[11:54] <Moratorium> I dont have any way to move the pointer
[11:54] <gnomefreak> beta will be in end feb early march
[11:54] <platos> dooglus: lol i don't know, i thought it was beta
[11:54] <SweetestSavage> !mount
[11:54] <ubotu> rumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[11:54] <Moratorium> so no terminal
[11:54] <omer> dooglus: a text window appered i do not now if it is terminal console
[11:54] <gnomefreak> platos, this week
[11:54] <Moratorium> I restarted into ubuntu safe mode
[11:54] <Moratorium> that works
[11:55] <Klementas> I'm getting this error when trying to mount a drive:  mount: /dev/hdd already mounted or /mnt/ busy ;  the problem is, that drive isn't mounted and there is nothing mounted to /mnt; in fact I can't mount ANY drive to any place in my filesystem;  any ideas what could be wrong ???
[11:55] <dooglus> platos: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule shows the release schedule.  beta is in March
[11:55] <soundray> avouser, too bad you can't switch to ssh, it's got much better support. Have you RTFM on rsh?
[11:55] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  control-alt-f1 will take you to a text terminal, control-alt-f7 will take you back to the gui
[11:55] <mwe> Moratorium: ok
[11:55] <sidd> all I have is terminal and IRC open
[11:55] <avouser> i have in install rshd and rlogind from the uni. repos. , but when i try to connect from t system that i have included in the hosts.equiv file i get "connection refused"
[11:55] <dooglus> sidd: that's odd.  did you have apt-get crash on you?
[11:55] <sethk> Klementas, try creating a new mount point and mounting there.  perhaps you have something mounted in a tree under mnt, say /mnt/xyz.
[11:55] <platos> dooglus: lol i know you'r right, i confused beta with alpha :S
[11:56] <Moratorium> the package is already installed
[11:56] <sethk> Klementas, then if you try to mount on /mnt, it would hide /mnt/xyz
[11:56] <Klementas> sethk: I already did thtat
[11:56] <mwe> Moratorium: now apt-get install xorg-driver-synaptics
[11:56] <Moratorium> it said 0 upgraded and 0 installed
[11:56] <sethk> Klementas, tried a new mountpoint in /?
[11:56] <Klementas> sethk: I've done the easy stuff
[11:56] <sidd> I have never run apt-crash nor do I know what it is, so I doubt it
[11:56] <omer> dooglus: a text window appered i do not now if it is terminal console
[11:56] <Moratorium> I did that mwe
[11:56] <Klementas> sethk: yes!
[11:56] <avouser> soundray, yes ... and have it set up accorddingly ...
[11:56] <sethk> Klementas, well, I don't know unless I ask.
[11:56] <gnomefreak> sidd, what were you trying to do when you got that error?
[11:56] <mwe> Moratorium: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7037 adjust the values to your likings
[11:56] <dooglus> omer: it's probably a terminal.  I don't know what exactly you want from a "console terminal".
[11:56] <Klementas> sethk: I already stated that I tried other places in my question
[11:57] <sidd> update packages
[11:57] <avouser> thats why i was looking for a some ubuntu docs on the subject, to see if it differs
[11:57] <sethk> Klementas, ok, I just got here so I missed that.  I'll let others help you then
[11:57] <mwe> Moratorium: and back up the xorg.conf you have by now
[11:57] <dooglus> omer: maybe you mean a "virtual console" - in which case, you get there by holding control and alt when you press F1.  hold alt and press F7 to get back here.
[11:57] <gnomefreak> sidd, do you have terminal open right now?
[11:57] <omer> dooglus:i want to install a program
[11:57] <hydroksyde> I need to put windows 98 on my machine... how can I back up my boot sector?
[11:57] <gnomefreak> or even the updater
[11:57] <sidd> no I closed it a minute ago
[11:57] <omer> from terminal console
[11:57] <sidd> still have error with term closed
[11:57] <dooglus> omer: in that case any terminal will do.
[11:57] <soundray> avouser, please be patient. You may have to repeat your question occasionally to find an expert.
[11:57] <gnomefreak> sidd, keep xchat open close everything else
[11:58] <Klementas> sethk: umount: /mnt: not mounted
[11:58] <dooglus> omer: (unless you're installing something which needs to be installed from outside of the graphical environment).  What are you installing?
[11:58] <Moratorium> ok, thanks mwe, this might take a bit of time
[11:58] <sidd> everything is closed except for xchat and still error
[11:58] <Moratorium> I'll chat to u when Im done
[11:58] <ashyg> what's the difference of erase entire disc and erase entire disk and use LVM?
[11:58] <ashyg> what is LVM?
[11:58] <gnomefreak> close the error
[11:58] <phiber_optic> does anyone know how to change the background on grub? and what is splash image?
[11:58] <platos> !LVM
[11:58] <ubotu> somebody said lvm was (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[11:58] <mwe> Moratorium: you have to type it all?
[11:58] <dooglus> ashyg: it's the Logical Volume Manager
[11:58] <gnomefreak> sidd, open a terminal and type sudo apt-get update
[11:58] <Moratorium> not sure yet
[11:59] <ashyg> dooglus: so which should i choose
[11:59] <soundray> ashyg, if you're on your first install, leave LVM aside.
[11:59] <ashyg> erase entire disk or erase and use LVM?
[11:59] <dooglus> ashyg: apparently it makes it easier to resize partitions later, 'cos it doesn't use "real" partitions.  I've never tried using it personally.
[11:59] <ashyg> i installed once but i need to reinstall
[11:59] <ashyg> okay
[11:59] <omer> dooglus,thank you,lastly to install mplayer which command i will use in console
[11:59] <ashyg> i don't ever need to repartition that drive
[11:59] <sethk> Klementas, at the risk of getting yelled at again,  doing umount /mnt does not show that something under /mnt is not mounted
[11:59] <gnomefreak> !mplayer
[11:59] <ubotu> methinks mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[11:59] <soundray> ashyg, you can always add it on later if need be.
[11:59] <specialbuddy> is the new firefox available on synaptic
[11:59] <dooglus> omer: you'll need to add the "multiverse" repository first.  see what ubotu is about to say...
[11:59] <dooglus> !universe
[11:59] <sidd> when i run apt-get update it says cannot open--permission denied
[11:59] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:00] <Klementas> sethk: I just posted the output of umount to you