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| TOZTWO | Does anyone here know if there are any edubuntu labs in Texas? | 01:57 |
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| TOZTWO | Howdy arkan0x. | 02:29 |
| arkan0x | :O | 02:29 |
| TOZTWO | I'm having trouble understanding how sudo works. | 02:31 |
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| jsgotangco | TOZTWO, think of it as admin access where you are are only allowed to do certain things with each line of command instaed of the whole session | 03:47 |
| mhz | hi all | 03:50 |
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| TOZTWO | Is there a way to log into a sudo enabled account? | 04:08 |
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| TOZAFK | thanx, gotta run. | 04:15 |
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| mhz | Seveas: knock knock | 06:39 |
| mhz | "neo, wake up" | 06:39 |
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| juliux | ogra_ibook, the thinclients are on the way to you | 11:43 |
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| magus_ | hi | 11:52 |
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| ogra_ibook | yay | 12:32 |
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| ogra_ibook | did anybody notice that we surpassed OpenBSD on distrowatch this month ? | 02:58 |
| Yagisan | ogra_ibook: no. but when we surpass ubuntu, we'll all know about it | 02:59 |
| ogra_ibook | lol | 02:59 |
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| highvoltage | hehe. | 03:04 |
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| mhz | ogra_ibook: i am in nirvana reading this; ttp://www.dsslive.org/mediawiki/index.php/Notes:Article | 05:06 |
| mhz | very clear and enlightening doc | 05:06 |
| mhz | about live cd making | 05:07 |
| mhz | ogra_ibook: so far, it all indicates that in order to make a solution for older hardware or less powerful ones, the best desktops following freedesktop.org standards are IceWM and XFCE | 05:10 |
| mhz | now, the very important question is: will I work on just customizing a look and feel for Edubuntu apps (KDE and little GNOME) | 05:11 |
| mhz | or | 05:11 |
| mhz | will I have to also recompile stuff more optimized for hardware specifics and then also take advante of the process and make apps. independant of GNOME or KDE libs | 05:12 |
| mhz | and so, maybe not use all Edubuntu apps | 05:13 |
| mhz | ogra_ibook: those questions, for me have no answers yet in my head | 05:13 |
| mhz | The idea is to ease the load of servers (remember we usually use desktops boxes 'to work as servers' and so HW is not that powerfull) | 05:14 |
| mhz | and in case, some schools need it, also make that edubuntu-light installable on PII, 300 MHz | 05:15 |
| ogra_ibook | as ltsp system ? | 05:15 |
| mhz | for server? yes | 05:16 |
| ogra_ibook | wont work | 05:16 |
| mhz | ? | 05:16 |
| mhz | PII are the 'cases' of clients | 05:16 |
| ogra_ibook | how many clients do you want to attach to this ? | 05:16 |
| ogra_ibook | ah | 05:17 |
| ogra_ibook | thats just fine | 05:17 |
| mhz | usually, PIV, 700 or 1GHz can be 'servers' here | 05:17 |
| mhz | but my main question is what to choose? Edubuntu apps (with all current dependencies to KDE and GNOME) or Apps with the minimum dependencies possible, which would then require I compile again | 05:19 |
| mhz | but then it wouldn't be 'edubuntu' :) because maybe many apps, will not be the ones in real Edubuntu | 05:19 |
| mhz | and my other concern is that currently, Xubuntu has no roadmap or organization of anykind | 05:20 |
| ogra_ibook | does it need one ? | 05:21 |
| ogra_ibook | its there and will be in main and completely supported with dapper | 05:21 |
| ogra_ibook | thats mainly the roadmap | 05:21 |
| mhz | ogra_ibook: so far, no one knows what to do, what's next, when to discuss stuff or who decides over what | 05:22 |
| mhz | ahhhhh | 05:22 |
| mhz | ogra_ibook: and regarding my former important question? | 05:23 |
| mhz | any suggestion? | 05:23 |
| ogra_ibook | thats your decision if yyou want to take the burden to make your own distro | 05:24 |
| mhz | nope, I dont | 05:24 |
| mhz | you know that | 05:24 |
| ogra_ibook | keep in mind that you have to recompile and offer every security upgrade | 05:24 |
| mhz | but i have no clue which way will actually be lighter | 05:24 |
| mhz | i've no clue if taking dependency away will actually be lighter for enduser with old hw | 05:25 |
| ogra_ibook | you can leave out certain parts, some apps might have special options to drop stuff | 05:25 |
| ogra_ibook | but i doubt the gain isnt worth the manpower you have to put into thatz | 05:26 |
| ogra_ibook | you dont take dependencys away | 05:26 |
| ogra_ibook | you need to disable the app functionallity, that will make the dependency go | 05:26 |
| ogra_ibook | so you'll end up with smalle but less functional apps | 05:27 |
| mhz | and how do i know or 'preview' that before hand? | 05:27 |
| mhz | and will that mean 'recompile' anyways? | 05:27 |
| ogra_ibook | you cant *preview* it | 05:30 |
| ogra_ibook | you need to compile the app and measure the difference | 05:30 |
| mhz | okis | 05:33 |
| mhz | thx for the time | 05:34 |
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| TOZTWO | If there is no root account, then how do I copy, move, modify files where the owner is root? | 05:43 |
| ogra_ibook | sudo cp /source/file/path /target/file/path | 05:44 |
| ogra_ibook | or replace cp with mv, gedit | 05:44 |
| TOZTWO | ok, thanx. | 05:45 |
| TOZTWO | I'm selling an edubuntu lab to a local church, and I need to know if edubuntu can serve 10 clients from a quad PII 233 with 1 Gb of ram. | 05:47 |
| mhz | dubt it | 05:48 |
| mhz | doubt it | 05:49 |
| ogra_ibook | thats a very small server | 05:49 |
| TOZTWO | Yeah, it's old. | 05:49 |
| ogra_ibook | you have to compute like that: 128MB per client + 256MB for the server | 05:50 |
| ogra_ibook | i have no exact numbers about CPU power, but 233Mhz is clearly to small for 10 clients | 05:50 |
| TOZTWO | How about a Dual PIII 700? | 05:50 |
| mhz | TOZTWO: I have tested a 700 Mhz + 256 Ram box as a server with 3 thin laptops | 05:51 |
| mhz | it worked fine until firefox was run by 2 clients | 05:52 |
| mhz | :)\ | 05:52 |
| TOZTWO | hmm.... | 05:52 |
| mhz | but that was not dual | 05:52 |
| mhz | nor had the ram you mention | 05:52 |
| TOZTWO | How much better would a dual run? | 05:52 |
| mhz | no idea yet for me | 05:53 |
| mhz | but it would be cool to know :) | 05:53 |
| TOZTWO | I might have to go with a quad PIII just to be sure. | 05:53 |
| ogra_ibook | in any case your firefox experience was MEM related | 05:53 |
| mhz | ogra_ibook: yes | 05:53 |
| mhz | TOZTWO: you can always try using a lighter desktop | 05:54 |
| ogra_ibook | i'd guess ~1000Mhz would be fine for 10 clients ... | 05:54 |
| mhz | (other than GNOME or KDE) | 05:54 |
| TOZTWO | I found a place locally that disopses of old hardware(recycle center), and I can get really cheap hardware. | 05:54 |
| mhz | TOZTWO: yup, I am trying old hardware here | 05:54 |
| mhz | so the investment takes place and admin time at one single machine: the server | 05:55 |
| TOZTWO | Yup. These folks can't afford a traditional lab. | 05:55 |
| mhz | TOZTWO: it all depends on what apps the 10 clients would be running | 05:55 |
| mhz | TOZTWO: i am there too :) | 05:56 |
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| TOZTWO | Everything that edubuntu has, OO, Logo, Games, Gcompris, Firfox. | 05:56 |
| TOZTWO | mhz: You are setting up a small lab for someone? | 05:57 |
| mhz | so far, a Pentium or AMD (not celeron, I'd say) of 1 GHz or more, plus the RAM claculus ogra_ibook metioned | 05:57 |
| mhz | would do for 10 clients | 05:57 |
| ogra_ibook | TOZTWO, i think if you can put two 1ghz CPUs and 1.5G of ram into this dual 700 machine, you are fine | 05:58 |
| mhz | and if ram can't be 128 p/client, then I'd encourage you to consider using XFCE desktop | 05:58 |
| mhz | instead of GNOME | 05:58 |
| Velmont | Or ROX? :] | 05:58 |
| mhz | TOZTWO: i am testing some 'layouts' for schools with low resources | 05:59 |
| mhz | Vego: AFAIKm ROX is not a 'desktop manager' | 05:59 |
| mhz | Velmont: : AFAIKm ROX is not a 'desktop manager' | 05:59 |
| mhz | sorry | 06:00 |
| mhz | :) | 06:00 |
| Velmont | mhz: They have a desktop and filemanager at least ;) | 06:00 |
| mhz | TOZTWO: usually, 1 server and 7 to 13 clients | 06:00 |
| mhz | Velmont: indeed | 06:00 |
| TOZTWO | mhz: I've found that for schools, there are way too many hoops to jump through, so I'm doing churches instead. | 06:00 |
| mhz | TOZTWO: good idea! | 06:01 |
| TOZTWO | No one ever calls me for computer help unless it to fix thier spyware problems....... | 06:01 |
| TOZTWO | I'm getting very tired of doing all of this reactive maintenance.......... | 06:02 |
| ogra_ibook | put a modem on the ltsp server, then you can dial in from home to fix stuff ;) | 06:02 |
| TOZTWO | So I figure with edubuntu, I can take a more proactive role, and teach people how to use a computer.......... | 06:03 |
| TOZTWO | Then I can have a more constructive role, rather than a maintenance role. | 06:03 |
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| TOZTWO | When I build this lab, I'm going to document how we do it, pictures, how-to, hurdles, prices, and then share. | 06:07 |
| lguerra | TOZTWO: very good | 06:08 |
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| juliux | hi littlepaul | 06:37 |
| littlepaul | hi juliux | 06:38 |
| littlepaul | juliux, i sent you the required email | 06:38 |
| juliux | littlepaul, thxs | 06:38 |
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| juliux | hi mherweg | 06:48 |
| lucasvo | [Excess Flood] | 06:48 |
| lucasvo | *g* | 06:49 |
| littlepaul | ping lucasvo | 06:56 |
| lucasvo | littlepaul: pong | 06:56 |
| littlepaul | lucasvo, do you allready know http://ikhaya.ubuntuusers.de/ ? | 06:56 |
| lucasvo | no | 06:57 |
| lucasvo | littlepaul: what is it about, a blog? | 06:57 |
| littlepaul | yes | 06:57 |
| littlepaul | a community blog | 06:57 |
| littlepaul | maby you want to write someting about edubuntu | 06:57 |
| lucasvo | littlepaul: hm, I am not a very talented writer | 06:59 |
| lucasvo | but, yes, I can try | 06:59 |
| littlepaul | lucasvo, good content is important not talent as an writer :) | 07:00 |
| littlepaul | lucasvo, littlepaul AT ubuntu-de DOT org | 07:01 |
| lucasvo | ok | 07:02 |
| littlepaul | in the blog there are some further interesting articles | 07:03 |
| littlepaul | lucasvo, i have anoter link for you :) | 07:03 |
| littlepaul | http://verein.ubuntu-de.org/ | 07:04 |
| lucasvo | django :P | 07:05 |
| littlepaul | right :) | 07:06 |
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| Shodane | hi | 07:42 |
| Burgwork | hello | 07:45 |
| Burgwork | what brings you here? | 07:45 |
| Shodane | i was told i could get info about edubuntu here | 07:46 |
| Burgwork | indeed you can | 07:47 |
| Shodane | great ;) | 07:47 |
| Burgwork | there is also #edubuntu-de is you want to chat in german | 07:49 |
| Shodane | is there documentation for edubuntu? can't find it on your website... | 07:49 |
| Burgwork | http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation | 07:50 |
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| Shodane | http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/EdubuntuCookbook/Chapter_8_-_Server_Configuration | 08:00 |
| Shodane | hmmm | 08:00 |
| Burgwork | the cookbook is very much under development right now | 08:01 |
| Burgwork | and they are always looking for more people to help them | 08:01 |
| Shodane | hehe | 08:01 |
| Shodane | ok | 08:01 |
| Shodane | what kind of server do i need for approx. 15 clients? | 08:02 |
| Shodane | i've got an old computer somewhere but it's not great, i guess | 08:02 |
| mhz_lunch | Shodane: and you can also get info at #edubuntu-es :) | 08:02 |
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| Shodane | sorry, no spanish ;) | 08:02 |
| ogra_ibook | Shodane, 128M per client and 256M for the server itself | 08:03 |
| mhz | ogra_ibook: we shold get that on the topic ;) | 08:03 |
| Shodane | i was told there's a german guy developing here? from the eifel? | 08:03 |
| ogra_ibook | Shodane, CPU, as fast as you can and not below 1Ghz i'd say | 08:03 |
| ogra_ibook | yupp, thats me | 08:03 |
| Shodane | hmm. it's probably fast enough then | 08:04 |
| ogra_ibook | mhz, sadly its to limited to add such long sentences | 08:04 |
| mhz | yup | 08:04 |
| Burgwork | ogra_ibook, the install notes seem to indicate taht the default install includes a GUI | 08:05 |
| Shodane | delete the part about install notes ;) | 08:05 |
| ogra_ibook | Burgundavia, which install notes ? | 08:05 |
| Shodane | or write it into the install notes | 08:05 |
| ogra_ibook | ours ? | 08:05 |
| Shodane | it doesn't | 08:06 |
| Burgwork | http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes | 08:06 |
| Shodane | ogra_ibook: dholbach sends me | 08:06 |
| ogra_ibook | ah, hi :) | 08:07 |
| Shodane | hi :) | 08:07 |
| ogra_ibook | Burgundavia, wher does it seem to be gui driven ? | 08:07 |
| Burgwork | ogra_ibook, if you read the <enter> part and then the server part, it seems to indicate taht the <enter> install method installs a gui | 08:08 |
| Burgwork | it should probably explicitily say whether or not it does | 08:08 |
| ogra_ibook | it installs a gui | 08:08 |
| ogra_ibook | by pressing enter the default install will install an Edubuntu-desktop and prepare an Edubuntu LTSP server | 08:09 |
| ogra_ibook | whats difficult with this sentence ? | 08:09 |
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| Burgwork | hmm, I will think of some better wording | 08:10 |
| ogra_ibook | i like it ... but offer something better :) | 08:11 |
| ogra_ibook | note that i fight for the "server" install to be renamed in dapper | 08:11 |
| Burgwork | I will. I rarely bitch abut things that I am not willing to get fixed myself | 08:12 |
| ogra_ibook | its a minimal install and should be named accordingly | 08:12 |
| ogra_ibook | i'd also rather name "workstation" as "standalone workstation" but that appears to long to me | 08:13 |
| Burgwork | yes, it is too long | 08:13 |
| mhz | neurogeek: ping | 08:13 |
| TOZAFK | The server install has no gui? | 08:14 |
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| TOZTWO | Can you administer from on of the clients? | 08:15 |
| Burgwork | ogra_ibook, so the assumption is that the teacher is working on the server itself? | 08:15 |
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| neurogeek | mhz, pong | 08:16 |
| neurogeek | mhz, how is it going? | 08:16 |
| ogra_ibook | TOZTWO, the server install only installs a 100MB system, its only if you want to tailor the whole system yourself .. | 08:16 |
| ogra_ibook | TOZTWO, its something different to the default install that installs a edubuntu server and a edubuntu desktop | 08:17 |
| ogra_ibook | Burgwork, ltsp needs a installed desktop | 08:17 |
| ogra_ibook | Burgwork, you must have something you can log in to ;)# | 08:18 |
| ogra_ibook | Burgwork, having GDM running on the server does no harm either ... | 08:18 |
| TOZTWO | I think I'll install the server version on my duron 900 and connect from my laptop to play around a bit. | 08:19 |
| Shodane | is gimp included? can't find it in the list | 08:19 |
| ogra_ibook | and indeed you can log in and to your admin tasks either on the server or from a client through the gui | 08:19 |
| ogra_ibook | Shodane, we include everything a default ubuntu brings | 08:19 |
| TOZTWO | GIMP is included. | 08:19 |
| ogra_ibook | so ooo2, gimp etc are there by default | 08:19 |
| Shodane | ah, ok. so i can choose the locale as well? | 08:20 |
| ogra_ibook | sure | 08:20 |
| mhz | neurogeek: sorry, fine, thax. (I had disabled the 'beep' while I slept :D ) | 08:20 |
| ogra_ibook | we support all 90 languages ubuntu supports | 08:20 |
| Burgwork | ogra_ibook, true, hadn't thought of that. My inexperience in thin clients shows | 08:20 |
| mhz | neurogeek: there is a venzuelan initiative I'd say you and your boss could take a look at | 08:20 |
| ogra_ibook | Burgwork, i doubt the product of your company works without desktop install on the central machine ;) | 08:21 |
| Burgwork | ogra_ibook, given we don't have a server and use X to do multihead, yes | 08:21 |
| ogra_ibook | :) | 08:21 |
| neurogeek | mhz, tell me.. | 08:22 |
| mhz | neurogeek: ttp://www.dsslive.org/mediawiki/index.php/Notes:Article | 08:22 |
| mhz | neurogeek: not that, sorry | 08:22 |
| neurogeek | ogra_ibook, how are you? | 08:22 |
| neurogeek | :D | 08:22 |
| mhz | neurogeek: http://educacion.solve.net.ve/index.php/Portada | 08:22 |
| ogra_ibook | neurogeek, fine, thanks | 08:22 |
| mhz | neurogeek: http://educacion.solve.net.ve/index.php/EDUVEN_Propuestas | 08:23 |
| neurogeek | mhz, yeah.. i know about that... | 08:23 |
| mhz | neurogeek: okis | 08:23 |
| neurogeek | mhz, solve is a brand new institution for free software in Venezuela | 08:24 |
| Shodane | can the server be administrated via web interface? | 08:24 |
| ogra_ibook | nope | 08:25 |
| neurogeek | but .. there are a lot of "articuladores" (as you'd say) in there.. so.. proyects always ends before their start | 08:25 |
| mhz | neurogeek: right now there are two things I am using 70% of my time (Feria de Tecnologia Libre y Educacion + Workshops and Courses on TicEdu for Teachers) | 08:25 |
| mhz | neurogeek: hehehehehhee | 08:25 |
| ogra_ibook | Shodane, but from every thin client | 08:25 |
| mhz | damn! | 08:25 |
| Shodane | ogra_ibook: is nfs enabled by default? can i add users via batch job? (i've been trying to do that with windows, that's not that easy ;)) | 08:27 |
| mhz | neurogeek: in Pereira, Colombia, Luis Guerra is also helping me to maybe have some sort of Ubuntu Tour or maybe even the same Feria in similar dates | 08:27 |
| mhz | neurogeek: would you be interested too? would Strusberg be into it? | 08:28 |
| neurogeek | mhz, of course... absolutely.. count on that | 08:29 |
| neurogeek | when would that be?? | 08:29 |
| mhz | neurogeek: for Chile, we are thinking of March-April | 08:29 |
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| mhz | for Colombia, maybe same dates | 08:29 |
| neurogeek | that would be nice | 08:29 |
| neurogeek | yeah.. count on that | 08:30 |
| mhz | Our dream/goal is Chile -> Colombia -> Venezuela -> Argentina -> Brazil | 08:30 |
| mhz | and FLISOL is also near that dates | 08:30 |
| mhz | and there's a GNOME event in Brazil too by those dates | 08:30 |
| mhz | so... Why not do a very VERY intensive agenda | 08:31 |
| mhz | to kick off 2006! | 08:31 |
| neurogeek | mhz, yeah.. i think i will be in FLISOL this year.. | 08:31 |
| mhz | and have a kind of LA power show | 08:31 |
| mhz | :) | 08:31 |
| neurogeek | mhz, excellent.. we (RS and me) are very interested in those things.. and better if we do it together .. the better | 08:31 |
| ogra_ibook | Shodane, nfs is the base of ltsp, so it is indeed enabled, adding users from a list would require a bit of shell scripting | 08:32 |
| mhz | neurogeek: so far, only Luis Guerra and I have been talking to people in each country | 08:32 |
| mhz | neurogeek: i am actually working at this very moment on a doc about it | 08:32 |
| neurogeek | great | 08:33 |
| TOZTWO | OMG! | 08:33 |
| mhz | so, I guees I'll have it done in 2 ours | 08:33 |
| Burgwork | ogra_ibook, however, there are plans to integrate our stuff with ltsp | 08:33 |
| mhz | hours | 08:33 |
| mhz | neurogeek: for you and RS to read it | 08:33 |
| neurogeek | mhz: ah.. BTW i haven't forgotten about the moin stuff.. i've done some things but haven't had the time to finish it.. i'll be on it soon enough | 08:33 |
| TOZTWO | mhz: You speack Spanish/Portugese? | 08:33 |
| mhz | neurogeek: thx | 08:34 |
| mhz | TOZTWO: I am Chilean, and neurogeek is Venezuelan | 08:34 |
| neurogeek | when you finish it.. send it to me to my mail | 08:34 |
| mhz | :D | 08:34 |
| neurogeek | TOZTWO, yeah.. Spanish | 08:34 |
| mhz | okis | 08:34 |
| mhz | TOZTWO: and we have #edubuntu-es | 08:34 |
| mhz | :D | 08:34 |
| TOZTWO | After I get my first lab up and running, I might be doing some labs in Mexico. | 08:34 |
| mhz | TOZTWO: wow! | 08:34 |
| mhz | cool | 08:34 |
| neurogeek | great!! | 08:35 |
| mhz | neurogeek: we also have a ML | 08:35 |
| mhz | and I am wiking info about Edubuntu-es and Ubuntu for Chile in ubuntu-cl.org | 08:36 |
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| mherweg | hi sven-tek | 08:37 |
| sven-tek | hi martin | 08:37 |
| mhz | neurogeek: tienen algun curso en Moodle or Claroiline I could take a look ? | 08:38 |
| mhz | neurogeek: ? | 08:44 |
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| mhz_wiking | neurogeek: ? | 09:07 |
| Shodane | ogra_ibook: re. can users be installed via batch job? | 09:11 |
| ogra_ibook | yes, with a little shellscript | 09:11 |
| Shodane | is it documented? | 09:11 |
| ogra_ibook | nope | 09:12 |
| ogra_ibook | but basically you can do it with a handfull of lines, i'm pretty sure google will give you a lot of hits for a shellscript you can use | 09:13 |
| mhz_wiking | Shodane: I am sure there's a unix command to do that | 09:13 |
| mhz_wiking | can you wait for me (5 to 10 mins) | 09:13 |
| ogra_ibook | not for a list of users | 09:13 |
| spacey_ki | if you have so many users you might want to use ldap | 09:14 |
| Shodane | i've never understood ldap... | 09:14 |
| spacey_ki | still need shell script to add users from a list ofcourse:) | 09:14 |
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| ogra_ibook | and likely some lines longer :) | 09:15 |
| Shodane | if the users are just regular users, i can write a script myself. thought they'd be some kinda special users | 09:15 |
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| spacey_ki | why are they special? | 09:15 |
| spacey_ki | or whats special about them | 09:15 |
| Shodane | well nothing apparently | 09:16 |
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| mhz_wiking | Shodane: found it | 09:16 |
| mhz_wiking | Page 118 on Linux Cookbook, by Oreilly | 09:16 |
| Shodane | ok, thx | 09:16 |
| mhz_wiking | 'mass_passwd' | 09:17 |
| ogra_ibook | we'll have tools for such stuff in the future, if more developers jump in | 09:17 |
| mhz_wiking | 'mass_useradd' | 09:17 |
| Shodane | hm, i'll try it out first ;) | 09:17 |
| mhz_wiking | $ sh mass_useradd < newusers > newlogins.txt | 09:18 |
| ogra_ibook | mhz_wiking, and what *is* mass_useradd ? | 09:19 |
| ogra_ibook | you also need the program/script ... | 09:19 |
| mhz_wiking | yup | 09:19 |
| mhz_wiking | it's a script there, in the book :) | 09:19 |
| mhz_wiking | I ignore if it's available somewhere in a repo | 09:19 |
| mhz_wiking | I hope so | 09:20 |
| mhz_wiking | but many oreilly books are available via on line | 09:20 |
| Shodane | http://www.tuxcomputing.com/cookbook/mass_useradd | 09:20 |
| Shodane | there's one | 09:20 |
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| Shodane | k | 09:21 |
| mhz_wiking | or else, I could write those 20 or so lines at night time | 09:21 |
| mhz_wiking | (chilean night time :) ) | 09:21 |
| Shodane | actually, what i'd prefer is an empty password and a dialog which forces the user to set a password at first login, like windows does... | 09:22 |
| Shodane | is chilean night time longer than elsewhere? | 09:22 |
| mhz_wiking | hehehe | 09:22 |
| mhz_wiking | nope | 09:23 |
| Shodane | =) | 09:23 |
| mhz_wiking | Shodane: well, the book has a section for that case too | 09:23 |
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| mhz_wiking | Shodane: it seems the script is exactly the one in the url! | 09:24 |
| mhz_wiking | good | 09:24 |
| Shodane | cool | 09:25 |
| Shodane | how about the other section then? maybe that one's online as well | 09:25 |
| mhz_wiking | heheh | 09:25 |
| mhz_wiking | okis | 09:25 |
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| Shodane | 44 euros, that's too much for me right now | 09:26 |
| mhz_wiking | Shodane: I'd bet it is available on PDF | 09:26 |
| Shodane | dunno | 09:26 |
| ogra_ibook | make sure that the script doesnt start at UID 1000, thats the admin user you created on install | 09:27 |
| mhz_wiking | Shodane: after you run useradd, simply run $ passwd -e the_user | 09:28 |
| mhz_wiking | that will expire the password at first login, forcing the user to change it | 09:29 |
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| mhz_wiking | Shodane: i hope that helps somehow | 09:31 |
| Shodane | yeah, i'll just set "hello" as the pw :) | 09:32 |
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| Shodane | i guess i know enough for now, thanks. i'll be back as soon as i've installed the server :) | 09:34 |
| mhz_wiking | good luck | 09:35 |
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| mhz_wiking | southfoxargentin: bienvendio | 09:41 |
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