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| freeflying | Riddell: After today's upgrade . scim and skim works fine | 02:02 |
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| Riddell | freeflying: awooga! | 02:02 |
| Riddell | freeflying: in dapper? | 02:02 |
| freeflying | Riddell: y | 02:02 |
| freeflying | Riddell: in dapper | 02:03 |
| Riddell | freeflying: great, I'll put scim etc up for main inclusion review then | 02:03 |
| freeflying | Riddell: thx | 02:03 |
| Tm_T | skim? what's that | 02:05 |
| Tm_T | hmm, should be sleeping... | 02:06 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: the kde fronted for scim | 02:06 |
| Tm_T | and scim is... | 02:06 |
| freeflying | Tm_T: and scim is a input method framework | 02:06 |
| Tm_T | ah ok | 02:06 |
| Riddell | for CKJ | 02:07 |
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| viviersf | sigh | 09:35 |
| viviersf | what a sucky thing to do | 09:35 |
| Tm_T | http://kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/kedubuntu-1.png | 09:35 |
| Tm_T | bad? ;) | 09:35 |
| viviersf | *sits and secures new firewall server * | 09:35 |
| viviersf | lol Tm_T | 09:36 |
| verwilst | Tm_T: /me likes :p | 09:36 |
| Tm_T | hehe | 09:36 |
| Tm_T | there's kubuntu, edubuntu and ubuntu logos combined | 09:36 |
| verwilst | no shit ;) | 09:36 |
| Tm_T | my point is to show that they all three has too much common to be thought separate | 09:37 |
| verwilst | problem is when a fourth arrives ;) | 09:37 |
| Tm_T | let's see if that will end up to all those three releases ;) | 09:37 |
| Tm_T | verwilst: then ubuntu can go, we don't need it ;--P | 09:37 |
| verwilst | hehe | 09:37 |
| viviersf | there is kinda a 4th | 09:38 |
| viviersf | already | 09:38 |
| Tm_T | xubuntu yes | 09:40 |
| Tm_T | but as long as that's not mentioned in ubuntu.com front page, doesn't matter in this kind of things | 09:40 |
| Tm_T | viviersf: and I can add that mouse to center :p | 09:41 |
| viviersf | no | 09:41 |
| viviersf | then its 5 | 09:41 |
| viviersf | what bout impi | 09:41 |
| viviersf | ;P | 09:41 |
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| Tm_T | can't remember that one | 09:42 |
| Tm_T | but we do need wubuntu | 09:42 |
| viviersf | lol | 09:43 |
| viviersf | dont worry bout impi | 09:43 |
| viviersf | will be released soon | 09:43 |
| viviersf | Riddell knows that it exists | 09:43 |
| viviersf | do i need xscreensaver ? | 09:43 |
| viviersf | or does kde need it | 09:43 |
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| Tm_T | viviersf: I think it's good to have | 09:48 |
| viviersf | well | 09:48 |
| viviersf | you got kscreensaver also | 09:48 |
| viviersf | im just trying to not have double | 09:48 |
| viviersf | apps on impi | 09:48 |
| viviersf | 1 of each | 09:49 |
| Tm_T | http://kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/kedubuntu-1b.png | 09:54 |
| viviersf | whez the mouse ? | 09:55 |
| viviersf | and the impi | 09:55 |
| viviersf | ;p | 09:55 |
| Tm_T | hehe | 09:56 |
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| Tm_T | viviersf: wanna have new background? | 09:58 |
| viviersf | huh | 09:58 |
| Tm_T | http://kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/kedubuntu-1a.png | 09:59 |
| Tm_T | I hope you like blue ;) | 09:59 |
| viviersf | impi is kde | 09:59 |
| viviersf | why wouldnt i like blue ;p | 09:59 |
| Tm_T | hehe | 10:00 |
| viviersf | oms | 10:00 |
| viviersf | bsd takes to long to install | 10:00 |
| viviersf | :( | 10:00 |
| Tm_T | viviersf: see c too | 10:11 |
| Tm_T | note the difference? | 10:11 |
| viviersf | huh ? | 10:11 |
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| Tm_T | http://kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/kedubuntu-1c.png | 10:11 |
| viviersf | your really bored | 10:15 |
| alleeHol | Riddell: bobesponja asked me to tell you that showimg 0.9.5 build fine here with debian dir from 0.9.4.1 debs | 10:29 |
| alleeHol | bobesponja: done ;) | 10:29 |
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| Tm_T | viviersf: not really bored, just sorta mad | 10:33 |
| Tm_T | viviersf: realised yesterday that there's name for people like me | 10:34 |
| Tm_T | viviersf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_Syndrome | 10:34 |
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| Tm_T | viviersf: http://kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/kedubuntu-1d.png | 10:56 |
| Tm_T | like it? | 10:56 |
| viviersf | hold | 10:56 |
| viviersf | ya its kewl | 10:56 |
| viviersf | still missing impi :P | 10:56 |
| viviersf | j/k | 10:57 |
| Tm_T | nah | 10:57 |
| Tm_T | still don't care about impi ;--P | 10:57 |
| viviersf | :( | 10:57 |
| viviersf | *sniff* | 10:57 |
| === viviersf tells Riddell to break only Tm_T's packages | ||
| Tm_T | :( | 10:58 |
| viviersf | lol | 10:58 |
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| viviersf | yo Mez | 11:00 |
| Tm_T | freeflying_: did you look at those pics? | 11:06 |
| crimsun | git pull | 11:06 |
| crimsun | crap, sorry | 11:06 |
| freeflying_ | Tm_T: looks cool | 11:06 |
| Tm_T | crimsun: agreed, crap, and don't be sorry ;) | 11:07 |
| Tm_T | freeflying_: any suggestions | 11:07 |
| Tm_T | ? | 11:07 |
| freeflying_ | Tm_T: I like it | 11:07 |
| Tm_T | just like it is ? | 11:08 |
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| allee | viviersf: impi? | 12:06 |
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| Tonio_ | allee: little question ;) | 01:40 |
| allee | 'k | 01:40 |
| Tonio_ | if a tarball doesn't have an "admin" folder, should I had it in the perspective to apply the kdepot patch ? | 01:41 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: is it a KDE program? | 01:42 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yep, kpowersave ;) | 01:42 |
| Tonio_ | I juste finished the powersave one and stated this one | 01:43 |
| Riddell | what's the build system used? | 01:43 |
| allee | Tonio_: what does it use to build | 01:43 |
| Tonio_ | autoconf + automake1.9 | 01:44 |
| Riddell | spooky | 01:44 |
| sealne | where abouts are the dapper daily cds? | 01:45 |
| Riddell | cdimage.ubuntu.com | 01:45 |
| Riddell | sealne: please test today's install CD, it might turn into flight 3 | 01:45 |
| Riddell | live CDs are still broken | 01:45 |
| Tonio_ | allee: in fact I just looked at the tarball again, there is an admin folder.... | 01:47 |
| Tonio_ | simply debuild -S -sa removes it.... I just need to search why ;) | 01:47 |
| Riddell | mystery solved | 01:47 |
| allee | Tonio_: heh, just found on kde-apps the changelog that 'admin/ was added' | 01:47 |
| Riddell | that's not good | 01:47 |
| Tonio_ | allee: yep, but destroyed by debuild -S -sa | 01:47 |
| Tonio_ | rm -rf admin | 01:48 |
| Tonio_ | rm -f debian/stamp-bootstrap | 01:48 |
| Tonio_ | dpkg-source -b kpowersave-0.5.2 | 01:48 |
| allee | Tonio_: WHAT? check make clean rule ;) | 01:48 |
| Tonio_ | allee: okay ;) | 01:48 |
| Tonio_ | allee: found......... okay, I didn't want and so didn't read, the rules file, because I wanted to stay very close to the debian package, but let's go removing this ;) | 01:51 |
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| allee | Tonio_: strange, strange | 01:52 |
| Tonio_ | allee: yep, I don't understand what that is doing is rules........... | 01:52 |
| freeflying | Riddell: I'tell you that scim and skim can work fine in dapper with gtk and gnome program but not any QT programs | 01:53 |
| freeflying | s/I'tell/I'd tell | 01:53 |
| Riddell | freeflying: yesterday you said they worked fine | 01:54 |
| sebas | Riddell: Did my "howto pass variables to a SLOT in 2 IRC lines" get through to you? | 01:55 |
| sebas | 3 days ago or so. | 01:55 |
| freeflying | Riddell: I was too exited to check it with QT program | 01:56 |
| Riddell | sebas: yes it did thanks but I haven't had time to investigate it yet :) | 01:57 |
| sebas | Riddell: That's not my problem, of course ;-) | 01:57 |
| sebas | Anyway, back to work. | 01:57 |
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| freeflying | Riddell: so sadly and sorry for telling you these :( | 01:58 |
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| allee | Tonio_: the rules files is 'unique' never saw this solution to the 'get a more recent admin/' directory. | 02:03 |
| === allee wonders how huge the diff is for a second debuild run | ||
| JRe | anyone else than me has problems with java in ubuntu ? | 02:03 |
| JRe | (dapper) | 02:04 |
| Tonio_ | allee: I'm trying to get the package in a more "convenient" way | 02:05 |
| Hobbsee | JRe: some, yes, URL to test? | 02:05 |
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| allee | Tonio_: you have a new release to admin is probabliy recent enough. Use good old minimal rules template ;) | 02:06 |
| allee | s/to admin/so admin/ | 02:06 |
| Tonio_ | use yep ;) | 02:07 |
| Tonio_ | s/use/allee: ;) | 02:09 |
| JRe | Hobbsee: the point is I can't run Eclipse nor Azureus | 02:09 |
| Tonio_ | don't ask me how I did this :) | 02:09 |
| allee | Tonio_: hah, success. I've infected you!! | 02:09 |
| Hobbsee | ah, i run neither program | 02:09 |
| JRe | Hobbsee: I think it's because of X | 02:10 |
| Tonio_ | allee: ^^ | 02:10 |
| allee | JRe: what java variant, sun, ibm, gnu | 02:10 |
| allee | +? | 02:10 |
| JRe | allee: sun one | 02:10 |
| JRe | allee: installed with java-package | 02:11 |
| allee | JRe: ohh, does it work? Failed for me after last sec update from sun | 02:11 |
| JRe | allee: yeah it work now with update 6 | 02:12 |
| JRe | allee: but it's unusefull because after, it's not possible to run eclipse nor azureus | 02:12 |
| JRe | allee: I think it's because of swt | 02:12 |
| JRe | allee: and BTW I had a FTBFS with your digikam test package | 02:13 |
| allee | JRe: I try again next week when I have a fast enough connection again. Sooner or later I need the java gui for the backup system ;) | 02:13 |
| JRe | allee: :) | 02:13 |
| allee | JRe: which part failed to build? Which system? | 02:13 |
| JRe | allee: was the same error that i told you before: libxft.la not foud | 02:14 |
| JRe | allee: on amd64 | 02:14 |
| Hobbsee | JRe: excuse the ignorance, but what exactly does FTBFS stand for? | 02:14 |
| allee | JRe: try pbuilder | 02:15 |
| JRe | Hobbsee: Failure To Build From Source | 02:15 |
| JRe | allee: ok | 02:15 |
| Tonio_ | JRe: Finishing kpowersave and then updating keep.... | 02:15 |
| Hobbsee | right, yep | 02:15 |
| Tonio_ | JRe: I think you had suggestions ? | 02:15 |
| JRe | allee: I try it in a dapper pbuilder | 02:15 |
| allee | JRe: btw can you grep libXft.la /usr/lib/*.la | 02:15 |
| === Hobbsee was thinking of BFBVFS = big fiery ball visible from space, but wasnt comming to the correct conclusion from that | ||
| allee | JRe: pbuild in dapper and breezy on i368 was fine here | 02:17 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: I got 'em! They look very flash; I like the design :). Thanks. | 02:17 |
| JRe | allee: http://ubuntu-fr.pastebin.com/503891 | 02:17 |
| allee | JRe: shame on you: libXft.la is in /usr/lib/libkmediapart.la | 02:17 |
| JRe | allee: do I miss a package ? | 02:17 |
| allee | JRe: no. libXft.la was in breezy but now longer | 02:18 |
| JRe | allee: ok so what do I need to do to clean it ? | 02:19 |
| allee | JRe: can you apt-get -b source libkipi and check in libkipi.la has lost the reference to libXft.la | 02:21 |
| allee | I've relibtoolized version working here, that why I didn't notice. the do not depend on libXft anymore | 02:22 |
| allee | JRe: if this removes libXft.la, then rebuild with libkexif. Now digikam should build. | 02:23 |
| JRe | allee: ok trying this | 02:24 |
| JRe | allee: seems to be working | 02:26 |
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| allee | good. Seems like we have to rebuild every lib that contains libXft.la in it's la files | 02:27 |
| allee | Riddell: ^^^^^ | 02:27 |
| JRe | allee: yes :) | 02:27 |
| === allee states that verlon really know why he's fighting against inderect lib depends | ||
| JRe | allee: ok digikam builded | 02:38 |
| JRe | allee: thanks :) | 02:38 |
| JRe | allee: test is begining =) | 02:39 |
| JRe | allee: is it normal that there is no more standard labels ? | 02:39 |
| allee | JRe: standard labels? | 02:40 |
| JRe | allee: wait I make a screenshot | 02:40 |
| allee | JRe: small one. I only have isdn ;) | 02:40 |
| JRe | ki | 02:41 |
| JRe | allee: http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=digikam7cq.jpg | 02:42 |
| allee | JRe: mhhm, I remember people complaining about People, Events etc. and a related i18n() problem | 02:43 |
| allee | JRe: looks like they standard tags got removed as a solution. I'll check that it's really a feature and not a bug | 02:44 |
| JRe | allee: in reality thet | 02:44 |
| JRe | allee: in reality they start to disapear in 0.8.0 | 02:44 |
| JRe | allee: ok | 02:44 |
| JRe | allee: apart from that everything seems fine | 02:46 |
| allee | JRe: you do not miss by accident the umount menu item in Camera? heh, heh | 02:48 |
| allee | JRe: thx for the test | 02:48 |
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| sealne | woo!! dapper asks about http proxy :-))) | 02:51 |
| sealne | no more 8min timeout waits | 02:52 |
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| Riddell | jjesse: docs meeting in #ubuntu-meeting | 03:25 |
| jjesse | grin thanks i forgot it was time | 03:25 |
| freeflying_ | hi anyone indapper may do " echo $QTDIR " and tell me the reslut | 03:36 |
| Riddell | QTDIR isn't set in Debian/Kubuntu | 03:38 |
| Riddell | Tm_T: is that logo you have ment to be used for anything? | 03:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: both powersave and kpowersave uploaded | 03:50 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: do they use HAL? | 03:53 |
| Tonio_ | yep | 03:53 |
| Tonio_ | and dbus | 03:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: is there anything special with HAL I should have known ? | 03:54 |
| Riddell | no, I was just wondering if I'd remembered that correctly | 03:54 |
| Tonio_ | ah ok ;) | 03:54 |
| Tonio_ | kpowersave was a pain to package.......... really ! | 03:55 |
| Riddell | we love you for it | 03:55 |
| Tonio_ | lol | 03:55 |
| Tonio_ | in fact most of the crappy things where resolved in the debian package... | 03:55 |
| Tonio_ | when they are confirmed correct, I will email then to the debian maintainer | 03:56 |
| \sh | Riddell: pykde upstream will apply the patches...and tries to improve the support | 03:58 |
| Riddell | woo | 04:00 |
| \sh | and I have to give him some examples for kconfigxt in python | 04:00 |
| Riddell | do you have any? | 04:02 |
| Tonio_ | JRe: keep 0.2.0 packaged and uploaded, while I'm still waitin' for a po folder "ma poule" ;) | 04:03 |
| Riddell | my keyboard is in US layout and I can't find the backslash | 04:03 |
| \sh | Riddell: yepp :) | 04:03 |
| \sh | Riddell: I'll refactor my kpybt examples easily | 04:04 |
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| Tm_T | Riddell: maybe for artwork if it's good enough | 04:16 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: just playing with ideas | 04:16 |
| Tm_T | Riddell: what you think? or ideas where it can be used? | 04:17 |
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| nlindblad | hi | 04:27 |
| bobesponja | allee: thanx :) | 04:35 |
| allee | bobesponja: np :) | 04:35 |
| \sh | allee: ok..k3b is as well hit by the libXft.la issue | 04:52 |
| \sh | kbluetooth as well | 04:52 |
| \sh | and some other stuff which I have to find out which package it is | 04:52 |
| nlindblad | hi \sh | 04:53 |
| \sh | Riddell: libXft.la is gone...we have to check the packages for kde...k3b and what allee said libkexif libkipi digikam etc. there are a lot more | 04:53 |
| \sh | hey nlindblad | 04:53 |
| nlindblad | how come kmail isn't in the "Internet" submenu? | 04:54 |
| \sh | because it's replaced by kontact | 04:55 |
| \sh | in the office section | 04:55 |
| nlindblad | right | 04:55 |
| \sh | but you can easily add kmail to your panel without any difficulties :) | 04:55 |
| nlindblad | yeah | 04:56 |
| === spstarr_work wonders if KDE 4 nightly debian packages are available somewhere (if one can build KDE 4.0 with core libs) | ||
| bobesponja | Tm_T: is kedubuntu really planned or are you just doing it (the artwork) for fun? | 05:05 |
| bobesponja | Tm_T: it looks great anyway :) | 05:05 |
| nlindblad | bobesponja: URL? | 05:06 |
| bobesponja | http://kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/ | 05:06 |
| bobesponja | http://kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/kedubuntu-1d.png and others | 05:07 |
| nlindblad | thanks | 05:07 |
| OculusAquilae | bobesponja: would be nice to have it | 05:07 |
| \sh | OculusAquilae: does ogra know about it? | 05:08 |
| OculusAquilae | \sh: about what? | 05:08 |
| bobesponja | OculusAquilae: I think edubuntu should have been based on kde in the first place cause kde has such a great kdeedu project | 05:08 |
| \sh | OculusAquilae: kedubuntu and this nice artwork? | 05:08 |
| bobesponja | OculusAquilae: and ubuntu too should have been basd on kde cuase it has such a great DE project ;) | 05:09 |
| \sh | bobesponja: kdeedu is used in edubuntu :) | 05:09 |
| OculusAquilae | bobesponja: right :) | 05:09 |
| bobesponja | \sh: i know but still, they should have picked kde as the main DE | 05:09 |
| bobesponja | :) | 05:09 |
| OculusAquilae | \sh: don't know | 05:09 |
| \sh | who did this artwork? | 05:12 |
| \sh | Tm_T: talk to ogra fast :) | 05:12 |
| Riddell | spstarr_work: there are no KDE 4 packages, it's not ready for packaging yet | 05:23 |
| spstarr_work | oh, so still in heavy development I was hoping to build it from SVN soon and begin to examine it | 05:23 |
| Riddell | spstarr_work: building from SVN is the way to go, although no paticular promises that it'll build at any given time | 05:24 |
| spstarr_work | given :) | 05:24 |
| Riddell | ** test flight 3 candidate CDs! http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20060113.1/ http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20060113/ | 05:24 |
| === spstarr_work has brought Kubuntu to his work and its..spreading :-) my PM manager uses it on one of his laptops now ;) | ||
| Lathiat | haha | 05:27 |
| Lathiat | one of my colleagues runs it now | 05:28 |
| Lathiat | as do i | 05:28 |
| Lathiat | on our work pcs | 05:28 |
| Lathiat | and this guy si like, never touched linux in his life | 05:28 |
| spstarr_work | :) | 05:28 |
| Lathiat | he is a computer tech tho | 05:28 |
| spstarr_work | I will become a Ubuntu desktop once the support of win2k expires on this machine im on :) | 05:28 |
| Riddell | spstarr_work, Lathiat: that's great to hear | 05:28 |
| spstarr_work | well, Kubuntu that is | 05:28 |
| Lathiat | i need to fix this 1 big in the remote desktop client | 05:29 |
| Lathiat | if you have dual monitor | 05:29 |
| Lathiat | e.g. nvidia or atis bgi desktop - but with xinerama extensions to tell you the layout | 05:29 |
| spstarr_work | im interested to seeing how KDE 4 and Xegl is going to intergrate in some mannor | 05:29 |
| Lathiat | if you fullscreen the client, it fills one monitor | 05:29 |
| Lathiat | but the graphic part is centered as if it should be going accross both monitors | 05:29 |
| spstarr_work | I know QT has 'Arthor' | 05:29 |
| Lathiat | i figure there just using the wrong bit of info to put the imagine in the right spot | 05:29 |
| spstarr_work | (aka, Cairo for KDE) | 05:29 |
| verwilst | Riddell: when is flight 3 due? | 05:31 |
| verwilst | since my 5 dapper systems are going into production next week hehe | 05:31 |
| Riddell | verwilst: whenever we get all the CDs tested | 05:31 |
| jjesse | Riddell: are there any x86 cd's you need tested? | 05:36 |
| verwilst | gottogo! | 05:37 |
| Riddell | jjesse: yes, see the URLs above | 05:38 |
| jjesse | downloading | 05:38 |
| jjesse | hmm if i rsynced my .iso this morning will it be the latest? | 05:39 |
| Riddell | depends on your morning | 05:40 |
| Riddell | rsync again and find out | 05:40 |
| jjesse | i'm gmt -5 | 05:40 |
| Riddell | timestamps at those cdimage URLs should be GMT | 05:41 |
| jjesse | yeah it was, cool working on it right now | 05:43 |
| bobesponja | i've just installed qt4.1 and I don't get any icons in designer-qt4 http://p80.free.fr/designer-qt4.png | 05:45 |
| bobesponja | anyone has the same problem? | 05:45 |
| Riddell | bobesponja: kubuntu packagfes? | 05:45 |
| bobesponja | Riddell: yes | 05:45 |
| bobesponja | Riddell: do you have the same problem? | 05:51 |
| Riddell | installing.. | 05:52 |
| bobesponja | k | 05:53 |
| bobesponja | Riddell: I have the same problem with assistant-q4, no icon are displayed in the toolbar | 05:56 |
| Riddell | bobesponja: works for me | 06:00 |
| Riddell | bobesponja: breezy or dapper? | 06:00 |
| bobesponja | Riddell: drapper | 06:01 |
| Riddell | bobesponja: icons in assistant-qt4 work for me, if not the docs | 06:03 |
| bobesponja | Riddell: and in designer? | 06:03 |
| Riddell | yes, works there too | 06:04 |
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| bobesponja | Riddell: see this http://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2006/01/msg00088.html | 06:07 |
| bobesponja | Riddell: did you install libqt4-debug ? | 06:08 |
| Riddell | nope, installing.. | 06:08 |
| bobesponja | I'm gonna remove it and see what happen, that seems to be the problem according to the thread | 06:08 |
| Riddell | yes, that breaks it | 06:11 |
| Riddell | so rename libqt4-debug to libqt4-addbug | 06:11 |
| bobesponja | :) | 06:12 |
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| pef | hello | 06:49 |
| Riddell | yo pef | 06:49 |
| pef | Riddell: hello jonathan, happy to be able to come here :) | 06:49 |
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| Riddell | pef: flight 3 candidates need testing if you're looking for something to do :) | 06:51 |
| Riddell | pef: also upstream version freeze next week, although I think universe has longer | 06:51 |
| pef | Riddell: currently I cannot install flight2 :/ | 06:51 |
| pef | Riddell: doesn't find nor cdrom nor hard drive | 06:52 |
| jjesse | Riddell: no problems w/ the live cd here | 06:52 |
| Riddell | jjesse: i386? | 06:52 |
| gobbe | i might test fligt3 with my desktop-computer because i have now this thinkpad for job :) | 06:52 |
| jjesse | correct i386 | 06:52 |
| jjesse | i386 and using qemu to run it | 06:52 |
| Riddell | clever | 06:53 |
| jjesse | i've become a fan of using qemu to learn/test things | 06:54 |
| Riddell | I always found it too slow to be of use | 06:54 |
| jjesse | i have xp pro,breezy and dapper | 06:54 |
| jjesse | well for simple things that i wnat to do and learn it is easier then rebooting to a different operating system | 06:55 |
| sebas | For simple things to test on dapper, chroot is quite useful. | 06:56 |
| sebas | If you're running breezy or another linux, that is. | 06:56 |
| jjesse | is there a page or something that i can learn how to use chroot? | 07:00 |
| sebas | Google helps you. | 07:00 |
| jjesse | grin thnaks | 07:00 |
| sebas | The important thing is to bind mount /tmp, /dev and /proc in your chroot. | 07:01 |
| sebas | Then you can do most things, export DISPLAY=:0 and you can even run GIU programs. | 07:01 |
| sebas | (Maybe xhost - aswell) | 07:01 |
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| pef | sebas: adding -d to dchroot command works well too for gui programs :) | 07:02 |
| sebas | Ah, thanks. | 07:02 |
| sebas | But that's dchroot, I was talking about chroot. (Not that I know the difference :D) | 07:02 |
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| jjesse | Riddell: todays dapper i386 installed w/o issues on the install working on testing it | 07:52 |
| Riddell | jjesse: excellent, thanks | 07:59 |
| nlindblad | hello again | 08:01 |
| Riddell | hello nlindblad | 08:11 |
| nlindblad | is the migration finished yet? | 08:14 |
| Riddell | not that I've heard | 08:17 |
| nlindblad | sounds like a big, big project | 08:18 |
| Riddell | I belive the script ran for a hour then broke so it's being done again | 08:19 |
| nlindblad | okey | 08:19 |
| nlindblad | but is Launchpad something from Canonical Ltd (the official sponsors of Ubuntu)? | 08:20 |
| nlindblad | *-s | 08:20 |
| Riddell | yes | 08:20 |
| Riddell | and it should be able to handle our needs much better than bugzilla | 08:21 |
| nlindblad | how come this migration hasn't been done before? | 08:21 |
| Riddell | bugzilla not being designed for 10,000 packages | 08:21 |
| Riddell | because lauchpad is a big project and wasn't ready before I guess | 08:22 |
| nlindblad | would be nice if KDE/GNOME/XFCE had their translation/bug tracking with Launchpad too | 08:22 |
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| Riddell | nlindblad: well once dapper pacakges get ported into rosetta (translation part of launchpad) then I'll suggest to the KDE i18n teams that they use it | 08:24 |
| nlindblad | good | 08:24 |
| nlindblad | imagine if major projects would use Launchpad and some other distros joined in | 08:24 |
| nlindblad | lots of work saved | 08:24 |
| Mez | nlindblad, thats the whole concept behind it | 08:26 |
| nlindblad | I know | 08:26 |
| nlindblad | I'm just enjoying the thought of it | 08:26 |
| nlindblad | but is it right that Launchpad itself is not entirely free/libre software? | 08:27 |
| spstarr_work | i wanna see the source for it :) | 08:27 |
| Riddell | nlindblad: it's not at all Free | 08:27 |
| nlindblad | libre then | 08:27 |
| Riddell | but will be at some unspecified time in the future | 08:27 |
| nlindblad | open source | 08:27 |
| Riddell | that's what I ment | 08:27 |
| nlindblad | okey | 08:27 |
| nlindblad | but I thought Canonical Ltd were into libre software | 08:28 |
| Riddell | the rationale is that for launchpad they have very specific ideas about how it should work and the development of it wouldn't benefit from being open | 08:29 |
| Riddell | which is probably quite correct | 08:29 |
| nlindblad | I see | 08:29 |
| Riddell | but not everyone is happy about it not being Free | 08:29 |
| nlindblad | yeah, some projects might not join because of that | 08:29 |
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| jjesse | how long do you think those kubuntu cd's will take to get to MI Riddell ? | 08:55 |
| Riddell | jjesse: MI? | 09:03 |
| jjesse | michigan, USA | 09:03 |
| Riddell | oh, no idea I'm afraid | 09:04 |
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| bobesponja | Riddell: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20060113/ torrent tracker seems to be dead | 09:25 |
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| LaserJock | Riddell: ping? | 10:29 |
| Riddell | LaserJock: hi | 10:39 |
| LaserJock | Riddell: hi I was looking at merging kdeaccessibility and I wondered what "Remove GCC 3.4 on hppa" meant in the changelog | 10:41 |
| Riddell | LaserJock: gcc 4 had a problem on hppa for a while that ment thing didn't compile, so those pacakges were set to use gcc 3.4 | 10:42 |
| LaserJock | Riddell: in debian/control? | 10:43 |
| Riddell | build-dep: gcc-3.4 [hppa] | 10:44 |
| Riddell | plus some variable set in debian/rules | 10:44 |
| LaserJock | Riddell: sorry to be a bother but when I do grep hppa in /debian all I get is the changelog entry | 10:46 |
| Riddell | that's because it was removed | 10:46 |
| LaserJock | oh, ok | 10:47 |
| LaserJock | so we should be able to just sync it from Sid? | 10:47 |
| LaserJock | Riddell: the debian kdeaccessibility package built fine in my dapper pbuilder, should I ask for a sync? | 11:11 |
| Riddell | LaserJock: could you get me a debdiff of the current ubuntu and debian package | 11:24 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 11:25 |
| LaserJock | its 2.4MB | 11:26 |
| LaserJock | a lot of .svn stuff | 11:27 |
| Riddell | just diff the debian directories then | 11:27 |
| Riddell | hmm, in which? | 11:27 |
| LaserJock | well, there is some .svn stuff in debian/cdbs/ | 11:31 |
| Riddell | in ubuntu or debian? | 11:32 |
| LaserJock | oh, the .svn is in ubuntu's debian/cdbs/ | 11:35 |
| Riddell | ah, so my fault | 11:36 |
| Riddell | well find . -name .svn | xargs rm -rf | 11:36 |
| LaserJock | ok, if I exclude .svn from the debdiff the diff of the debian/ dirs is 795k | 11:36 |
| Riddell | then take a diff -urN | 11:36 |
| Riddell | crivvens | 11:37 |
| Riddell | can you put it on a webserver somewhere? | 11:37 |
| LaserJock | the diff? sure | 11:37 |
| LaserJock | Riddell: http://chem.unr.edu/~mantha/ubuntu/kdeaccessibility_3.5.0-0ubuntu1.diff | 11:42 |
| Riddell | oh, branch patch and buildprep | 11:48 |
| Riddell | there's no signifiant changes in the debian version and some in the ubuntu version that need kept, just leave it | 11:49 |
| LaserJock | so don't sync, leave it as is? | 11:50 |
| Riddell | correct | 11:51 |
| Riddell | it'll probably get updated for KDE 3.5.1 anyway | 11:52 |
| LaserJock | when will that be? | 11:52 |
| Riddell | just after upstream version freeze | 11:55 |
| LaserJock | oh, ok | 11:55 |
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