=== Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === crimsun_ [n=crimsun@wireless-nat-pool-rdu.redhat.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL_ [n=KaiL@p548F7EB5.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:02] Riddell: After today's upgrade . scim and skim works fine [02:02] freeflying: awooga! [02:02] freeflying: in dapper? [02:02] Riddell: y [02:03] Riddell: in dapper [02:03] freeflying: great, I'll put scim etc up for main inclusion review then [02:03] Riddell: thx [02:05] skim? what's that [02:06] hmm, should be sleeping... [02:06] Tm_T: the kde fronted for scim [02:06] and scim is... [02:06] Tm_T: and scim is a input method framework [02:06] ah ok [02:07] for CKJ === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=JRe@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _maydayjay_ [n=maydayja@ip101109.101.nas.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@wbs-196-2-105-30.wbs.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-252-098.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:35] sigh [09:35] what a sucky thing to do [09:35] http://kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/kedubuntu-1.png [09:35] bad? ;) [09:35] *sits and secures new firewall server * [09:36] lol Tm_T [09:36] Tm_T: /me likes :p [09:36] hehe [09:36] there's kubuntu, edubuntu and ubuntu logos combined [09:36] no shit ;) [09:37] my point is to show that they all three has too much common to be thought separate [09:37] problem is when a fourth arrives ;) [09:37] let's see if that will end up to all those three releases ;) [09:37] verwilst: then ubuntu can go, we don't need it ;--P [09:37] hehe [09:38] there is kinda a 4th [09:38] already [09:40] xubuntu yes [09:40] but as long as that's not mentioned in ubuntu.com front page, doesn't matter in this kind of things [09:41] viviersf: and I can add that mouse to center :p [09:41] no [09:41] then its 5 [09:41] what bout impi [09:41] ;P === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-252-098.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:42] can't remember that one [09:42] but we do need wubuntu [09:43] lol [09:43] dont worry bout impi [09:43] will be released soon [09:43] Riddell knows that it exists [09:43] do i need xscreensaver ? [09:43] or does kde need it === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:48] viviersf: I think it's good to have [09:48] well [09:48] you got kscreensaver also [09:48] im just trying to not have double [09:48] apps on impi [09:49] 1 of each [09:54] http://kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/kedubuntu-1b.png [09:55] whez the mouse ? [09:55] and the impi [09:55] ;p [09:56] hehe === alleeHol [n=ach@dialin-212-144-130-172.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:58] viviersf: wanna have new background? [09:58] huh [09:59] http://kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/kedubuntu-1a.png [09:59] I hope you like blue ;) [09:59] impi is kde [09:59] why wouldnt i like blue ;p [10:00] hehe [10:00] oms [10:00] bsd takes to long to install [10:00] :( [10:11] viviersf: see c too [10:11] note the difference? [10:11] huh ? === Huahua [n=hua@221.172.49.230] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:11] http://kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/kedubuntu-1c.png [10:15] your really bored [10:29] Riddell: bobesponja asked me to tell you that showimg 0.9.5 build fine here with debian dir from 0.9.4.1 debs [10:29] bobesponja: done ;) === alleeHol is now known as allee [10:33] viviersf: not really bored, just sorta mad [10:34] viviersf: realised yesterday that there's name for people like me [10:34] viviersf: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_Syndrome === cain_ [n=cain@wbs-196-2-109-143.wbs.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua is now known as khiweed === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:56] viviersf: http://kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/kedubuntu-1d.png [10:56] like it? [10:56] hold [10:56] ya its kewl [10:56] still missing impi :P [10:57] j/k [10:57] nah [10:57] still don't care about impi ;--P [10:57] :( [10:57] *sniff* === viviersf tells Riddell to break only Tm_T's packages [10:58] :( [10:58] lol === mez_ [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:00] yo Mez [11:06] freeflying_: did you look at those pics? [11:06] git pull [11:06] crap, sorry [11:06] Tm_T: looks cool [11:07] crimsun: agreed, crap, and don't be sorry ;) [11:07] freeflying_: any suggestions [11:07] ? [11:07] Tm_T: I like it [11:08] just like it is ? === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRe [n=JRe@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:06] viviersf: impi? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@CPE-144-136-118-222.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:40] allee: little question ;) [01:40] 'k [01:41] if a tarball doesn't have an "admin" folder, should I had it in the perspective to apply the kdepot patch ? [01:42] Tonio_: is it a KDE program? [01:42] Riddell: yep, kpowersave ;) [01:43] I juste finished the powersave one and stated this one [01:43] what's the build system used? [01:43] Tonio_: what does it use to build [01:44] autoconf + automake1.9 [01:44] spooky [01:45] where abouts are the dapper daily cds? [01:45] cdimage.ubuntu.com [01:45] sealne: please test today's install CD, it might turn into flight 3 [01:45] live CDs are still broken [01:47] allee: in fact I just looked at the tarball again, there is an admin folder.... [01:47] simply debuild -S -sa removes it.... I just need to search why ;) [01:47] mystery solved [01:47] Tonio_: heh, just found on kde-apps the changelog that 'admin/ was added' [01:47] that's not good [01:47] allee: yep, but destroyed by debuild -S -sa [01:48] rm -rf admin [01:48] rm -f debian/stamp-bootstrap [01:48] dpkg-source -b kpowersave-0.5.2 [01:48] Tonio_: WHAT? check make clean rule ;) [01:48] allee: okay ;) [01:51] allee: found......... okay, I didn't want and so didn't read, the rules file, because I wanted to stay very close to the debian package, but let's go removing this ;) === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:52] Tonio_: strange, strange [01:52] allee: yep, I don't understand what that is doing is rules........... [01:53] Riddell: I'tell you that scim and skim can work fine in dapper with gtk and gnome program but not any QT programs [01:53] s/I'tell/I'd tell [01:54] freeflying: yesterday you said they worked fine [01:55] Riddell: Did my "howto pass variables to a SLOT in 2 IRC lines" get through to you? [01:55] 3 days ago or so. [01:56] Riddell: I was too exited to check it with QT program [01:57] sebas: yes it did thanks but I haven't had time to investigate it yet :) [01:57] Riddell: That's not my problem, of course ;-) [01:57] Anyway, back to work. === sebas grabs the last cookie. [01:58] Riddell: so sadly and sorry for telling you these :( === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:03] Tonio_: the rules files is 'unique' never saw this solution to the 'get a more recent admin/' directory. === allee wonders how huge the diff is for a second debuild run [02:03] anyone else than me has problems with java in ubuntu ? [02:04] (dapper) [02:05] allee: I'm trying to get the package in a more "convenient" way [02:05] JRe: some, yes, URL to test? === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:06] Tonio_: you have a new release to admin is probabliy recent enough. Use good old minimal rules template ;) [02:06] s/to admin/so admin/ [02:07] use yep ;) [02:09] s/use/allee: ;) [02:09] Hobbsee: the point is I can't run Eclipse nor Azureus [02:09] don't ask me how I did this :) [02:09] Tonio_: hah, success. I've infected you!! [02:09] ah, i run neither program [02:10] Hobbsee: I think it's because of X [02:10] allee: ^^ [02:10] JRe: what java variant, sun, ibm, gnu [02:10] +? [02:10] allee: sun one [02:11] allee: installed with java-package [02:11] JRe: ohh, does it work? Failed for me after last sec update from sun [02:12] allee: yeah it work now with update 6 [02:12] allee: but it's unusefull because after, it's not possible to run eclipse nor azureus [02:12] allee: I think it's because of swt [02:13] allee: and BTW I had a FTBFS with your digikam test package [02:13] JRe: I try again next week when I have a fast enough connection again. Sooner or later I need the java gui for the backup system ;) [02:13] allee: :) [02:13] JRe: which part failed to build? Which system? [02:14] allee: was the same error that i told you before: libxft.la not foud [02:14] allee: on amd64 [02:14] JRe: excuse the ignorance, but what exactly does FTBFS stand for? [02:15] JRe: try pbuilder [02:15] Hobbsee: Failure To Build From Source [02:15] allee: ok [02:15] JRe: Finishing kpowersave and then updating keep.... [02:15] right, yep [02:15] JRe: I think you had suggestions ? [02:15] allee: I try it in a dapper pbuilder [02:15] JRe: btw can you grep libXft.la /usr/lib/*.la === Hobbsee was thinking of BFBVFS = big fiery ball visible from space, but wasnt comming to the correct conclusion from that [02:17] JRe: pbuild in dapper and breezy on i368 was fine here [02:17] Riddell: I got 'em! They look very flash; I like the design :). Thanks. [02:17] allee: http://ubuntu-fr.pastebin.com/503891 [02:17] JRe: shame on you: libXft.la is in /usr/lib/libkmediapart.la [02:17] allee: do I miss a package ? [02:18] JRe: no. libXft.la was in breezy but now longer [02:19] allee: ok so what do I need to do to clean it ? [02:21] JRe: can you apt-get -b source libkipi and check in libkipi.la has lost the reference to libXft.la [02:22] I've relibtoolized version working here, that why I didn't notice. the do not depend on libXft anymore [02:23] JRe: if this removes libXft.la, then rebuild with libkexif. Now digikam should build. [02:24] allee: ok trying this [02:26] allee: seems to be working === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:27] good. Seems like we have to rebuild every lib that contains libXft.la in it's la files [02:27] Riddell: ^^^^^ [02:27] allee: yes :) === allee states that verlon really know why he's fighting against inderect lib depends [02:38] allee: ok digikam builded [02:38] allee: thanks :) [02:39] allee: test is begining =) [02:39] allee: is it normal that there is no more standard labels ? [02:40] JRe: standard labels? [02:40] allee: wait I make a screenshot [02:40] JRe: small one. I only have isdn ;) [02:41] ki [02:42] allee: http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=digikam7cq.jpg [02:43] JRe: mhhm, I remember people complaining about People, Events etc. and a related i18n() problem [02:44] JRe: looks like they standard tags got removed as a solution. I'll check that it's really a feature and not a bug [02:44] allee: in reality thet [02:44] allee: in reality they start to disapear in 0.8.0 [02:44] allee: ok [02:46] allee: apart from that everything seems fine [02:48] JRe: you do not miss by accident the umount menu item in Camera? heh, heh [02:48] JRe: thx for the test === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-002-191.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:51] woo!! dapper asks about http proxy :-))) [02:52] no more 8min timeout waits === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.9] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:25] jjesse: docs meeting in #ubuntu-meeting [03:25] grin thanks i forgot it was time [03:36] hi anyone indapper may do " echo $QTDIR " and tell me the reslut [03:38] QTDIR isn't set in Debian/Kubuntu [03:45] Tm_T: is that logo you have ment to be used for anything? [03:50] Riddell: both powersave and kpowersave uploaded [03:53] Tonio_: do they use HAL? [03:53] yep [03:53] and dbus [03:54] Riddell: is there anything special with HAL I should have known ? [03:54] no, I was just wondering if I'd remembered that correctly [03:54] ah ok ;) [03:55] kpowersave was a pain to package.......... really ! [03:55] we love you for it [03:55] lol [03:55] in fact most of the crappy things where resolved in the debian package... [03:56] when they are confirmed correct, I will email then to the debian maintainer [03:58] <\sh> Riddell: pykde upstream will apply the patches...and tries to improve the support [04:00] woo [04:00] <\sh> and I have to give him some examples for kconfigxt in python [04:02] do you have any? [04:03] JRe: keep 0.2.0 packaged and uploaded, while I'm still waitin' for a po folder "ma poule" ;) [04:03] my keyboard is in US layout and I can't find the backslash [04:03] <\sh> Riddell: yepp :) [04:04] <\sh> Riddell: I'll refactor my kpybt examples easily === hunger [n=hunger@p54A63B0E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:16] Riddell: maybe for artwork if it's good enough [04:16] Riddell: just playing with ideas [04:17] Riddell: what you think? or ideas where it can be used? === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D085C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:27] hi [04:35] allee: thanx :) [04:35] bobesponja: np :) [04:52] <\sh> allee: ok..k3b is as well hit by the libXft.la issue [04:52] <\sh> kbluetooth as well [04:52] <\sh> and some other stuff which I have to find out which package it is [04:53] hi \sh [04:53] <\sh> Riddell: libXft.la is gone...we have to check the packages for kde...k3b and what allee said libkexif libkipi digikam etc. there are a lot more [04:53] <\sh> hey nlindblad [04:54] how come kmail isn't in the "Internet" submenu? [04:55] <\sh> because it's replaced by kontact [04:55] <\sh> in the office section [04:55] right [04:55] <\sh> but you can easily add kmail to your panel without any difficulties :) [04:56] yeah === spstarr_work wonders if KDE 4 nightly debian packages are available somewhere (if one can build KDE 4.0 with core libs) [05:05] Tm_T: is kedubuntu really planned or are you just doing it (the artwork) for fun? [05:05] Tm_T: it looks great anyway :) [05:06] bobesponja: URL? [05:06] http://kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/ [05:07] http://kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/kedubuntu-1d.png and others [05:07] thanks [05:07] bobesponja: would be nice to have it [05:08] <\sh> OculusAquilae: does ogra know about it? [05:08] \sh: about what? [05:08] OculusAquilae: I think edubuntu should have been based on kde in the first place cause kde has such a great kdeedu project [05:08] <\sh> OculusAquilae: kedubuntu and this nice artwork? [05:09] OculusAquilae: and ubuntu too should have been basd on kde cuase it has such a great DE project ;) [05:09] <\sh> bobesponja: kdeedu is used in edubuntu :) [05:09] bobesponja: right :) [05:09] \sh: i know but still, they should have picked kde as the main DE [05:09] :) [05:09] \sh: don't know [05:12] <\sh> who did this artwork? [05:12] <\sh> Tm_T: talk to ogra fast :) [05:23] spstarr_work: there are no KDE 4 packages, it's not ready for packaging yet [05:23] oh, so still in heavy development I was hoping to build it from SVN soon and begin to examine it [05:24] spstarr_work: building from SVN is the way to go, although no paticular promises that it'll build at any given time [05:24] given :) [05:24] ** test flight 3 candidate CDs! http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20060113.1/ http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20060113/ === spstarr_work has brought Kubuntu to his work and its..spreading :-) my PM manager uses it on one of his laptops now ;) [05:27] haha [05:28] one of my colleagues runs it now [05:28] as do i [05:28] on our work pcs [05:28] and this guy si like, never touched linux in his life [05:28] :) [05:28] he is a computer tech tho [05:28] I will become a Ubuntu desktop once the support of win2k expires on this machine im on :) [05:28] spstarr_work, Lathiat: that's great to hear [05:28] well, Kubuntu that is [05:29] i need to fix this 1 big in the remote desktop client [05:29] if you have dual monitor [05:29] e.g. nvidia or atis bgi desktop - but with xinerama extensions to tell you the layout [05:29] im interested to seeing how KDE 4 and Xegl is going to intergrate in some mannor [05:29] if you fullscreen the client, it fills one monitor [05:29] but the graphic part is centered as if it should be going accross both monitors [05:29] I know QT has 'Arthor' [05:29] i figure there just using the wrong bit of info to put the imagine in the right spot [05:29] (aka, Cairo for KDE) [05:31] Riddell: when is flight 3 due? [05:31] since my 5 dapper systems are going into production next week hehe [05:31] verwilst: whenever we get all the CDs tested [05:36] Riddell: are there any x86 cd's you need tested? [05:37] gottogo! [05:38] jjesse: yes, see the URLs above [05:38] downloading [05:39] hmm if i rsynced my .iso this morning will it be the latest? [05:40] depends on your morning [05:40] rsync again and find out [05:40] i'm gmt -5 [05:41] timestamps at those cdimage URLs should be GMT [05:43] yeah it was, cool working on it right now [05:45] i've just installed qt4.1 and I don't get any icons in designer-qt4 http://p80.free.fr/designer-qt4.png [05:45] anyone has the same problem? [05:45] bobesponja: kubuntu packagfes? [05:45] Riddell: yes [05:51] Riddell: do you have the same problem? [05:52] installing.. [05:53] k [05:56] Riddell: I have the same problem with assistant-q4, no icon are displayed in the toolbar [06:00] bobesponja: works for me [06:00] bobesponja: breezy or dapper? [06:01] Riddell: drapper [06:03] bobesponja: icons in assistant-qt4 work for me, if not the docs [06:03] Riddell: and in designer? [06:04] yes, works there too === _maydayjay_ [n=maydayja@gimel.nas.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:07] Riddell: see this http://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2006/01/msg00088.html [06:08] Riddell: did you install libqt4-debug ? [06:08] nope, installing.. [06:08] I'm gonna remove it and see what happen, that seems to be the problem according to the thread [06:11] yes, that breaks it [06:11] so rename libqt4-debug to libqt4-addbug [06:12] :) === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D085C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D085C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:49] hello [06:49] yo pef [06:49] Riddell: hello jonathan, happy to be able to come here :) === JRe [n=JRe@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:51] pef: flight 3 candidates need testing if you're looking for something to do :) [06:51] pef: also upstream version freeze next week, although I think universe has longer [06:51] Riddell: currently I cannot install flight2 :/ [06:52] Riddell: doesn't find nor cdrom nor hard drive [06:52] Riddell: no problems w/ the live cd here [06:52] jjesse: i386? [06:52] i might test fligt3 with my desktop-computer because i have now this thinkpad for job :) [06:52] correct i386 [06:52] i386 and using qemu to run it [06:53] clever [06:54] i've become a fan of using qemu to learn/test things [06:54] I always found it too slow to be of use [06:54] i have xp pro,breezy and dapper [06:55] well for simple things that i wnat to do and learn it is easier then rebooting to a different operating system [06:56] For simple things to test on dapper, chroot is quite useful. [06:56] If you're running breezy or another linux, that is. [07:00] is there a page or something that i can learn how to use chroot? [07:00] Google helps you. [07:00] grin thnaks [07:01] The important thing is to bind mount /tmp, /dev and /proc in your chroot. [07:01] Then you can do most things, export DISPLAY=:0 and you can even run GIU programs. [07:01] (Maybe xhost - aswell) === sebas 's afk. [07:02] sebas: adding -d to dchroot command works well too for gui programs :) [07:02] Ah, thanks. [07:02] But that's dchroot, I was talking about chroot. (Not that I know the difference :D) === pef is now known as pef_aw [07:52] Riddell: todays dapper i386 installed w/o issues on the install working on testing it [07:59] jjesse: excellent, thanks [08:01] hello again [08:11] hello nlindblad [08:14] is the migration finished yet? [08:17] not that I've heard [08:18] sounds like a big, big project [08:19] I belive the script ran for a hour then broke so it's being done again [08:19] okey [08:20] but is Launchpad something from Canonical Ltd (the official sponsors of Ubuntu)? [08:20] *-s [08:20] yes [08:21] and it should be able to handle our needs much better than bugzilla [08:21] how come this migration hasn't been done before? [08:21] bugzilla not being designed for 10,000 packages [08:22] because lauchpad is a big project and wasn't ready before I guess [08:22] would be nice if KDE/GNOME/XFCE had their translation/bug tracking with Launchpad too === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:24] nlindblad: well once dapper pacakges get ported into rosetta (translation part of launchpad) then I'll suggest to the KDE i18n teams that they use it [08:24] good [08:24] imagine if major projects would use Launchpad and some other distros joined in [08:24] lots of work saved [08:26] nlindblad, thats the whole concept behind it [08:26] I know [08:26] I'm just enjoying the thought of it [08:27] but is it right that Launchpad itself is not entirely free/libre software? [08:27] i wanna see the source for it :) [08:27] nlindblad: it's not at all Free [08:27] libre then [08:27] but will be at some unspecified time in the future [08:27] open source [08:27] that's what I ment [08:27] okey [08:28] but I thought Canonical Ltd were into libre software [08:29] the rationale is that for launchpad they have very specific ideas about how it should work and the development of it wouldn't benefit from being open [08:29] which is probably quite correct [08:29] I see [08:29] but not everyone is happy about it not being Free [08:29] yeah, some projects might not join because of that === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-084-059-002-191.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [08:55] how long do you think those kubuntu cd's will take to get to MI Riddell ? [09:03] jjesse: MI? [09:03] michigan, USA [09:04] oh, no idea I'm afraid === spstarr_work can see it now, the Kubuntu truck on the highway, with a big blue Kubuntu gear on it with "Kubuntu's on the road!" === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:25] Riddell: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20060113/ torrent tracker seems to be dead === trappist [i=trappist@linuxkungfu.org] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D085C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Sime [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:29] Riddell: ping? [10:39] LaserJock: hi [10:41] Riddell: hi I was looking at merging kdeaccessibility and I wondered what "Remove GCC 3.4 on hppa" meant in the changelog [10:42] LaserJock: gcc 4 had a problem on hppa for a while that ment thing didn't compile, so those pacakges were set to use gcc 3.4 [10:43] Riddell: in debian/control? [10:44] build-dep: gcc-3.4 [hppa] [10:44] plus some variable set in debian/rules [10:46] Riddell: sorry to be a bother but when I do grep hppa in /debian all I get is the changelog entry [10:46] that's because it was removed [10:47] oh, ok [10:47] so we should be able to just sync it from Sid? [11:11] Riddell: the debian kdeaccessibility package built fine in my dapper pbuilder, should I ask for a sync? [11:24] LaserJock: could you get me a debdiff of the current ubuntu and debian package [11:25] yeah [11:26] its 2.4MB [11:27] a lot of .svn stuff [11:27] just diff the debian directories then [11:27] hmm, in which? [11:31] well, there is some .svn stuff in debian/cdbs/ [11:32] in ubuntu or debian? [11:35] oh, the .svn is in ubuntu's debian/cdbs/ [11:36] ah, so my fault [11:36] well find . -name .svn | xargs rm -rf [11:36] ok, if I exclude .svn from the debdiff the diff of the debian/ dirs is 795k [11:36] then take a diff -urN [11:37] crivvens [11:37] can you put it on a webserver somewhere? [11:37] the diff? sure [11:42] Riddell: http://chem.unr.edu/~mantha/ubuntu/kdeaccessibility_3.5.0-0ubuntu1.diff [11:48] oh, branch patch and buildprep [11:49] there's no signifiant changes in the debian version and some in the ubuntu version that need kept, just leave it [11:50] so don't sync, leave it as is? [11:51] correct [11:52] it'll probably get updated for KDE 3.5.1 anyway [11:52] when will that be? [11:55] just after upstream version freeze [11:55] oh, ok