[12:00] <gnomefreak> sidd, sudo apt-get update
[12:00] <bimberi> !ff1.5
[12:00] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:00] <StokesTheorem> Okay, now Ubuntu is copyrighted under GPL, correct?
[12:00] <dooglus> sidd: you need to use "sudo apt-get update"
[12:00] <Klementas> sethk: umount: /mnt: not mounted
[12:00] <Moratorium> mwe, it already has :Section "InputDevice"
[12:00] <Moratorium>     Identifier  "Synaptics Touchpad"
[12:00] <Moratorium>     Driver      "synaptics"
[12:00] <Moratorium>     Option      "SendCoreEvents"        "true"
[12:00] <Moratorium>     Option      "Device"                "/dev/psaux"
[12:00] <Moratorium>     Option      "Protocol"              "auto-dev"
[12:00] <Moratorium>     Option      "HorizScrollDelta"  "0"
[12:00] <gnomefreak> than type user password when it asks
[12:00] <mwe> Moratorium: don't paste here
[12:00] <Moratorium> sorry
[12:00] <mwe> Moratorium: thats great
[12:00] <pmontemayor> Saw  img file for a Debian install that work in conjunciton with a Mac floppy, is there one for Ubuntu?
[12:00] <mwe> Moratorium: maybe apt put it in
[12:00] <Moratorium> do I need the other stuff?
[12:01] <sidd> GREAT
[12:01] <sidd> works now
[12:01] <sidd> thanks guys
[12:01] <Klementas> sethk: I get this no matter where in my filesystem I try to mount the drive
[12:01] <sethk> Klementas, yes, and as I said, that shows that /mnt is not a mount point, but it does _not_ show that /mnt/somethingelse is not a mount point
[12:01] <soundray> StokesTheorem, some of it. Parts are also covered by other licenses: LGPL, Artistic, BSD, ...
[12:01] <gnomefreak> sidd, wait
[12:01] <cello_rasp> how do i mount disk images?
[12:01] <sidd> yes?
[12:01] <mwe> Moratorium: what under Section "ServerLayout" ?
[12:01] <gnomefreak> sidd, when that is done type sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:01] <sidd> did that
[12:01] <sidd> it worked
[12:01] <dooglus> sidd: whenever you're doing any "admin" kind of stuff you generally have to put "sudo" in front of the command, so it runs as root.
[12:01] <gnomefreak> oh you did upgrade?
[12:01] <Klementas> sethk: there is nothing under /mnt
[12:01] <StokesTheorem> soundray:  But anybody modifying and selling Ubuntu must release their derivitive under GPL, right?
[12:01] <sidd> turns out terminal was in the middle of a real player install I had done a week ago
[12:01] <sidd> sudo--good to know
[12:01] <sidd> thanks
[12:02] <dooglus> StokesTheorem: that's not how the GPL works.  you're allowed to make changes and keep them secret.
[12:02] <Moratorium> it has 3 inputdevice lines
[12:02] <sethk> Klementas, do mount (with no arguments), and past the results to a pastebot, then give us the URL of the pastebot
[12:02] <dooglus> StokesTheorem: oh, sorry.  if they're selling it, then yes, they have to release it under the GPL.
[12:02] <gnomefreak> pastebin*
[12:02] <soundray> StokesTheorem, it's "modifying and redistributing". Whether you take money or not is not the issue.
[12:02] <Moratorium> "generic Keyboard" "Configured Mouse" and "Synaptics Touchpad"
[12:02] <dooglus> StokesTheorem: if I want to make my own version of ubuntu and keep it to myself, I'm allowed to do that.
[12:02] <Malachi> Is their any way I can substitute the system bell with another sound?
[12:02] <mwe> Moratorium: InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad" is that in the ServeLayout part?
[12:03] <hawking> how can i reinstall X?
[12:03] <Moratorium> yes mwe
[12:03] <mwe> Moratorium: you should be good then. I guess apt put it in
[12:03] <StokesTheorem> Okay, I wrote to one of the companies selling the Ubuntu H2 - a portable Ubuntu thing - and heard back the following:
[12:03] <dooglus> hawking: sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg
[12:03] <brrrt> anyone using nvidia 8178 drivers on breezy ?
[12:03] <Moratorium> ok, I'll try a restart
[12:03] <soundray> hawking, what are you trying to fix?
[12:03] <mwe> Moratorium: play with different settings for the driver though
[12:03] <hawking> soundray : I can't set my keyboard layout
[12:03] <hawking> soundray : and could find no solution
[12:04] <StokesTheorem> [sorry Zinside can not release the source code of the Ubuntu H2 installation
[12:04] <StokesTheorem> since we don't have it.  Pertec does have it but I don't think they want to release it under GPL.] 
[12:04] <Moratorium> should I use the extra lines that you posted
[12:04] <StokesTheorem> Is it just me or is that a clear violation of them using Ubuntu?
[12:04] <soundray> hawking, have you tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'? (Backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you try)
[12:04] <gnomefreak> StokesTheorem, read the GPL
[12:04] <dooglus> StokesTheorem: I don't know enough about the GPL to say.
[12:04] <hawking> soundray : for thousand times
[12:04] <bimberi> StokesTheorem: are you sure this is a derivative of ubuntu linux?
[12:05] <bimberi> StokesTheorem: not just a name coincidence?
[12:05] <hawking> soundray : something I don't understand when I do setxkbmap tr it says Error loading new keyboard description
[12:05] <gnomefreak> you can change modify edit as you wish you cant sell it unless its only for supplies and if you give it out it has to have source code with it or availble
[12:05] <mwe> Moratorium: you can I guess it will work without it. I put in some tweaking
[12:05] <Klementas> sethk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7038
[12:05] <sethk> StokesTheorem, what does that version have that regular old ubuntu doesn't have?
[12:05] <StokesTheorem> Absolutely 100% sure.  http://www.zinside.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=46
[12:06] <Moratorium> tweaking for what?
[12:06] <tim__> I bound a key (0xa2) through the configuration editor to a command (ooffice2), but when i press it, nothing happens. What's the problem?
[12:06] <sethk> Klementas, ok, and the mount statement you are trying?
[12:06] <StokesTheorem> It is installed to a portable USB device and modified so that it is particularly adept at being mobile.
[12:06] <soundray> hawking, so you have a running X installation with a wrong keyboard layout?
[12:06] <mwe> Moratorium: like the speed and sensitivity
[12:06] <Klementas> sethk: mount -t vfat /dev/hdd /mnt
[12:06] <paulproteus|lapt> How do I report a bug against a Dapper package in main?
[12:06] <Ribs> StokesTheorem: That just looks like a HD with Ubuntu installed.
[12:06] <Steve^> I downloaded a .deb file for a program, how do I install it?
[12:06] <StokesTheorem> A lot of people playing with the portable-ubuntu idea often say things like "well, it can be done since the H2 does it" and "I wonder what they modified to get it to work so well..."
[12:06] <Moratorium> I see, so they're not strictly needed
[12:07] <paulproteus|lapt> Steve^: sudo dpkg -i filename
[12:07] <sethk> Klementas, oh, I doubt you want to mount /dev/hdd.  Ordinarily you would mount something like /dev/hdd1
[12:07] <unl3ss> Hey, I can't burn CDs because k3b keeps telling that I don't have the permissions... how can I either a) run k3b as root or b) enable myself to allow burning?
[12:07] <mwe> Moratorium: no
[12:07] <gnomefreak> paulproteusi want to say use the bug report tool in system tools but i think it moved to launchpad :(
[12:07] <dooglus> StokesTheorem: sounds like it might be a vanilla ubuntu install, with some extra properietary software included.
[12:07] <Moratorium> ok, the touch pad still isnt working
[12:07] <sethk> Klementas, it would be very unusual to format an entire IDE device as a single partition.
[12:07] <mitrovarr> StokesTheorem:  It's possible that they have parts of the code that are under other licenses, so they can't release the entire thing
[12:07] <paulproteus|lapt> gnomefreak: Also, it's a command-line only system I'm on. (-:
[12:07] <hawking> soundray : yes
[12:07] <dvm1981> unl3ss: you have not the rigts to do it ...
[12:07] <Klementas> seife: it is though
[12:07] <gnomefreak> paulproteususe lynx or links2
[12:07] <soundray> hawking, GNOME? KDE?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> or w3m
[12:07] <hawking> soundray : KDE
[12:07] <StokesTheorem> Hmmm, [But we will soon release an universal CD that will install Ubuntu to any USB
[12:07] <StokesTheorem> hard drive (also produced by Pertec). It will be available for download on www.zinside.com with a small fee.] 
[12:08] <unl3ss> dvm1981: Right. The permissions are set to root.
[12:08] <mwe> Moratorium: I don't know. could you paste the entire xorg.conf. or maybe try with my settings
[12:08] <Klementas> sethk: it is though;  I'll try hdd1 too
[12:08] <StokesTheorem> Sorry about the multi-lines.  I forgot pasting from gmail includes line breaks.
[12:08] <soundray> hawking, have you tried setting the keyboard via the KDE control center instead of the command line?
[12:08] <mitrovarr> I don't know why you'd need a special ubuntu for a microdrive, though.
[12:08] <sethk> Klementas, try this:   fdisk -l /dev/hdd    see if partitions show up
[12:08] <hawking> soundray : yes
[12:08] <dvm1981> unl3ss: and member on the good group ?
[12:08] <mitrovarr> It's not like a flash drive where you have to minimize writes
[12:08] <soundray> hawking, result?
[12:08] <hawking> soundray : that one also uses setxkbmap command
[12:08] <hawking> soundray : nothing
[12:08] <r00723r0> hi
[12:08] <phiber_optic> can someone help me installig a splash ??
[12:09] <r00723r0> im getting issues
[12:09] <Tortel> can someone aste their sources.list?
[12:09] <hawking> soundray : and normally that worked ok ...
[12:09] <tim__> how do i mount an ntfs volume so that users other than root can access it?
[12:09] <hawking> soundray : so I think that's a bug
[12:09] <cello_rasp> is it possible to tell gnome to open a folder, from the command line?
[12:09] <Klementas> sethk: I've done that too
[12:09] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, what version are you using of ubuntu?
[12:09] <Tortel> *Paste
[12:09] <r00723r0> it says dmrc needs 644 permissions and needs to be owned by 'user'
[12:09] <Steve^> is there not a program that can install a self-downloaded .deb, and solve dependency issues?
[12:09] <r00723r0> i tried chmod 644 -R .dmrc
[12:09] <Klementas> sethk: there is one partition
[12:09] <phiber_optic> 5.10
[12:09] <StokesTheorem> The last thing seems more to the letter of the GPL, but if they are selling a "special install" then clearly they have (a) modified it or (b) have proprietary software to tweak the install/  Either way, saying they don't want to release the code strikes me as illegal from my own readings of the GPL and from what I've heard here.
[12:09] <mwe> Tortel: If you promise to back it up before messing with it again
[12:09] <Moratorium> ok, forget the dumbass touch pad
[12:09] <sethk> Klementas, ok, then it would be hdd1
[12:09] <r00723r0> but i still get the error
[12:09] <Klementas> ok
[12:09] <phiber_optic> gnomefreak 5.10
[12:09] <hawking> soundray : as it's the same for all other layouts...
[12:10] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install gnome-art  phiber_optic
[12:10] <Tortel> I have it backed uP
[12:10] <r00723r0> im getting issues
[12:10] <platos> Steve^: normally they use apt-get install <package name> to install packages from the repos
[12:10] <r00723r0> it says dmrc needs 644 permissions and needs to be owned by 'user'
[12:10] <r00723r0> i tried chmod 644 -R .dmrc
[12:10] <r00723r0> but i still get the error
[12:10] <soundray> hawking, I think you're missing a package. Give me two minutes...
[12:10] <Moratorium> I want to know why the mouse keeps on freezing the whole system when I plug it in
[12:10] <gnomefreak> once gnome art is installed it makes it 300 times easier to install spalsh
[12:10] <platos> Steve^: you could do that with every dependency you have
[12:10] <phiber_optic> gnomefreak one other question, what is gdm?
[12:10] <hawking> soundray : ok...I appreciate your help
[12:10] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  Did you try a different USB device?
[12:10] <trappist> r00723r0: sudo chown username .dmrc
[12:10] <mwe> Moratorium: check the log files
[12:10] <gnomefreak> gdm=gnome display manager
[12:10] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  I have a couple of ideas why
[12:10] <Moratorium> not yet
[12:11] <mwe> Moratorium: that's what you wanna do
[12:11] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, if your looking on gnome-look?
[12:11] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  It might be deactivating the built in control devices, and that might be crashing it
[12:11] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  Or maybe USB just isn't working period
[12:11] <phiber_optic> yeah
[12:11] <bimberi> StokesTheorem: as i understand it it depends on how the software was developed.  if it's a stand-alone package written by them then they don't have to use the GPL.  If it's a derivative of a GPL package - they must comply with the GPL (and release the source code)
[12:11] <unl3ss> dvm1981: the permissions are set to 666.root.cdrom
[12:11] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, gdm on gnome-look.org for some reasons are log-in screens
[12:11] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, since your there
[12:12] <phiber_optic> yeah?
[12:12] <dvm1981> unl3ss: Other than rights problems. I hope that someone here can help you
[12:12] <gnomefreak> download the splash that you want
[12:12] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  So it would help to know if other USB devices crash it (indicating USB is the problem), don't work (indicating USB is broken), or work fine (indicating USB is *not* the problem.)
[12:12] <phiber_optic> and then how do I install it?
[12:12] <gnomefreak> under system>prefferences>splash screen if that is not there install gnome-art
[12:12] <xiaogil> is there something more precise to observe the earth than WW2D ?
[12:12] <fanopnaic> Is there a graphical archive manager without a zillion deps on useless libs and as good as WinRAR?
[12:12] <phiber_optic> i already installe dgnome art gnomefreak
[12:12] <gnomefreak> xiaogil,  lol
[12:13] <xiaogil> gnomefreak: ;)
[12:13] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, than splash screen should be there
[12:13] <gnomefreak> xiaogil, are you trying to install it?
[12:13] <xiaogil> gnomefreak: it's installed already
[12:13] <Moratorium> btw, gnomefreak, it took 1 and a half hours to install
[12:13] <dvm1981> unl3ss: Re ask the question to atire a litte bit more attention
[12:13] <gnomefreak> Moratorium, what did?
[12:13] <phiber_optic> yeah I see, but how do I put the splash screen that i want
[12:13] <phiber_optic> or gdm?
[12:14] <Steve^> I'm trying to install opera and it depends on xlib6g (>= 3.3.6) | xlibs;   But that isn't in my package manager...
[12:14] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, did you download it yet?
[12:14] <LordMelkor> When i install cedega and it runs tests on my grafx card the 3d acceleration test fails and it says i need to configure my graphics drivers properly.. how do i do this?
[12:14] <platos> phiber_optic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto?highlight=%28usplash%29
[12:14] <Moratorium> gnomefreak:ubuntu
[12:14] <gnomefreak> how long?
[12:14] <Moratorium> 90 minutes or so
[12:14] <phiber_optic> yeahh gnome freak
[12:14] <atbt> Can anyone help me dual boot Windows + Ubuntu (5.10)?
[12:14] <unl3ss> Hey guys, I can't burn an image in k3b because "I don't have the permission to," what do I do?
[12:15] <Moratorium> cant remember exactly
[12:15] <paulproteus|lapt> atbt: Yeah, the Ubuntu installer should help you. (-:
[12:15] <gnomefreak> eh i dont remember it ever taking that long (breezy)
[12:15] <XsPiDeR> somebody can tell me how i can run StarCraft Under Ubuntu i try with wine but i get a lots of errors i try with Winex3 (in debian sarge worx) but i get errors ?
[12:15] <gnomefreak> ok phiber_optic when you open up the splash screen manager let me know
[12:16] <mwe> XsPiDeR: check frankcorner.org IIRC there's a howto. might be wrong though
[12:16] <mitrovarr> unl3ss:  Do you have permissions to write to where you are trying to save the image?
[12:16] <fanopnaic> Steve^: try apt-get -f install
[12:16] <unl3ss> mitrovarr: On the disc? Apparently not
[12:16] <mitrovarr> unl3ss:  like are you trying to save it to a mounted volume (to which users will not have write permissions by default.)
[12:16] <Moratorium> ok, Mitrovarr, I started up with my mp3 player plugged in and it froze at the line "starting hotplug subsystem..."
[12:16] <platos> XsPiDeR: on ubuntu the newest version from wine is prepackaged
[12:16] <unl3ss> mitrovarr: Nope, just trying to burn an image in k3b
[12:16] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  sounds like USB and hotplug might be brokwn
[12:17] <hawking> soundray : found anything?
[12:17] <Steve^> fanopnaic, did nothing
[12:17] <Moratorium> physically broken?
[12:17] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  You might want to google around and see if linux drivers exist for your specific laptop
[12:17] <phiber_optic> ok gnomefreak, the splash image is the one in the grup gnomefreak?
[12:17] <fanopnaic> Steve^: err, are you trying to install the debian package? or the ubuntu package?
[12:17] <gnomefreak> grup?
[12:17] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  no, but now we know what is freezing the laptop; it's a problem with USB
[12:17] <fanopnaic> Steve^: the ubuntu thingie works. at least over here.
[12:17] <Steve^> just a sec
[12:17] <pinkisntwell> oo.o won't print, what am I doing wrong? should i login with the printer turned on>
[12:17] <pinkisntwell> ?
[12:17] <Moratorium> this sucks animal rectum
[12:17] <Steve^> I had opera removed, re-added it now and did that command
[12:18] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, when you open the splash screen manager it will say install on bottoms right click that find the splash that you downloaded and double click it than click on it in the spalsh manager and click activate
[12:18] <mitrovarr> unl3ss:  could you create a regular file where you're trying to save the image?
[12:18] <soundray> hawking, what is the setxbmap command that you have tried?
[12:18] <phiber_optic> okk
[12:18] <atbt> Can I just install Windows XP, followed by default Ubuntu 5.10 (simply choosing different partitions on the same harddrive during Ubuntu installation)?
[12:18] <fanopnaic> Steve^: works now?
[12:18] <phiber_optic> im going to do that...
[12:18] <mitrovarr> unl3ss:  Like if I tried to make an image file on /media/hdb1 I couldn't because users don't have write permissions there
[12:18] <hawking> soundray : well I do "setxkbmap tr"
[12:19] <gnomefreak> ok ill brb
[12:19] <phiber_optic> but is the splash secreen the one for the grub screen??
[12:19] <Steve^> fanopnaic, got an error about plugins when I run opera, but it does seem to run
[12:19] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, no
[12:19] <fanopnaic> Steve^: that's ok.
[12:19] <gnomefreak> splash screen the the lil ubuntu thing you see before gnome starts
[12:19] <|37th|Trigger> HEllo guys :)
[12:19] <phiber_optic> ohh ok okkk...
[12:19] <phiber_optic> ;)
[12:20] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, if you want to change grub you have your work ahead of u
[12:20] <ramblingturtle> hello, I have been trying to figure out how to mount my hp iriver t30 mp3 player and cant seem to find anything on it I do show it being detected with the Device manager but how do I mount it is my question
[12:20] <gnomefreak> your/alot
[12:20] <phiber_optic> ill
[12:20] <unl3ss> mitrovarr: It's my own system. The problem is that k3b tells me I don't have permissions to burn this disc. Be right back
[12:20] <phiber_optic> research it
[12:20] <phiber_optic> gnome
[12:20] <phiber_optic> thanx by the way
[12:20] <soundray> hawking, is xkeyboard-config installed on your system?
[12:20] <hawking> soundray : yes it is
[12:20] <mwe> ramblingturtle: it should automount if it works I believe
[12:21] <fanopnaic> Steve^: install lesstif2 to make the error go away, and plugins work.
[12:21] <soundray> hawking, does the file /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/tr exist?
[12:21] <fanopnaic> mozilla flash plugin works out-of-the-box in opera methinks
[12:21] <hawking> soundray : yes
[12:21] <ramblingturtle> mwe: thats what I thought but it didn
[12:22] <ramblingturtle> mwe: i tried twice but it is detected under the device manager
[12:22] <atbt> Can I just install Windows XP, followed by default Ubuntu 5.10 (simply choosing different partitions on the same harddrive during Ubuntu installation)?\
[12:22] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  What kind of laptop is it exactly?
[12:22] <Ubuntuser_Ba> Seveas, are u there^?
[12:22] <Steve^> fanopnaic, tried but I can't seem to connect to a bunch of servers
[12:22] <soundray> hawking, can you repeat what error you get? It scrolled off the top here.
[12:22] <fanopnaic> elaborate
[12:23] <vbgunz> does anyone have the bug where if you unmount a usb hard drive, it unmounts *but* an error comes up "something about invalid argument"?
[12:23] <hawking> soundray : Error loading new keyboard description
[12:23] <LordMelkor> well if i see the gears why does the test fail
[12:23] <ashyg> !twinview
[12:23] <ubotu> ashyg: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:23] <hawking> soundray : for every layout I tried
[12:23] <hawking> soundray : not only tr
[12:23] <Moratorium> I just got a kernel panic
[12:23] <ashyg> does anyone know how to install twinview?
[12:23] <Steve^> ran apt-get update, probably 50% can't be connected
[12:23] <Seveas> Ubuntuser_Ba, yes
[12:23] <Moratorium> when I plugged my mouse in during boot up
[12:23] <Ubuntuser_Ba> Seveas, PVT??
[12:23] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  I've done it
[12:23] <Seveas> sure
[12:23] <bimberi> atbt: yes that's right, the thing is that XP will take up the whole drive by default.  That's OK though because the ubuntu installer can resize the windows partition - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[12:23] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  the part of the nvidia readme that talks about it is pretty helpful... I'll find it for you
[12:24] <ashyg> mitrovarr: how, i have two monitors... also how do i change the resolutions available in the system->administration->screen resolution dialog?
[12:24] <atbt> bimberi: thank you very much, i'll be back on later then, thanks again.
[12:24] <ashyg> mitrovarr: thanks
[12:24] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8178/README/appendix-g.html
[12:24] <soundray> hawking, have you tried 'strace setxkbmap tr'? It produces a lot of output, but you may be able to see the name of the file it cannot find.
[12:24] <bimberi> atbt: np :)
[12:24] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  You'll have to set up metamodes
[12:24] <hawking> soundray : lemme try
[12:24] <ramblingturtle> what would be the command to list all mounted devices
[12:24] <Steve^> fanopnaic, should I be worried that lesstif2 cannot be authenticated?
[12:24] <ramblingturtle> is is ls /dev
[12:24] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  Those modes will then be your new resolution choices
[12:24] <hyphenated> ramblingturtle: 'mount'
[12:25] <fanopnaic> Steve^: no.
[12:25] <ramblingturtle> hyphenated: thanks
[12:25] <dab> hi
[12:25] <Moratorium> it says "not synching:fatal exception interrupt" mitrovarr, when I plug the mouse in
[12:25] <dab> i'm trying to watch an .avi with xine (i have the w32codecs) but it doesn't seem to recognize it. i get an error and i can see image but no sound
[12:25] <dab> what else should i install?
[12:25] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  What kind of laptop is it exactly?  Maybe someone else has had this problem and fixed it.
[12:25] <hyphenated> ramblingturtle: you could do 'cat /etc/mtab' if you want, which is about the same as what running 'mount' without arguments does
[12:25] <Moratorium> LG
[12:26] <Moratorium> the exact model is an LE50 Express
[12:26] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  model#?
[12:26] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  Thanks
[12:26] <soundray> hawking, have you read http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77092.html ?
[12:26] <Moratorium> where would you check anyway Mitrovarr?
[12:26] <hawking> soundray : here is the output http://rafb.net/paste/results/hfLLqU22.html
[12:26] <mitrovarr> Moratorium:  Google.
[12:27] <phiber_optic> does anyone know how to boot from command line in grub?
[12:27] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  When you configure your xorg.conf file, you'll need to put in a metamode list.
[12:27] <dabugas> btw, i have watched this file before on xine but on another kubuntu
[12:27] <Moratorium> I was afraid so
[12:27] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  Like mine is     Option	   "MetaModes"  "1024x768,1024x768;1024x768,NULL;1280x1024,1024x768;1280x768,NULL;1600x1200,1028x768;1600x1200,NULL"
[12:27] <existance> I have a 2nd monitor that runs on an nvidia card, how can i configure fglrx to use it?
[12:28] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  That means my options are "1024x768 on both", 1024x768 on the first and the second is off, 1280x1024 on the first, 1024x768 on the second, 1280x1024 on the first with the second off, 1600x1200 on the first with 1024x768 on the second, 1600x1200 on the first with the second off"
[12:28] <_Drow_> ubuntu really suck
[12:29] <_Drow_> debian rlz
[12:29] <mwe> existance: um fglrx is for ati cards
[12:29] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  the change resolution dialog will list the combined resolution of the mode.
[12:29] <existance> mwe, i thought you could use both on it :/
[12:29] <gnomefreak> _Drow_, go to debian than
[12:29] <soundray> hawking, what's your version of libxkbfile1?
[12:29] <ashyg> okay thanks mitrovarr
[12:30] <existance> mwe, so how would i have one monitor thats ati and the other nvidia?
[12:30] <bimberi> gnomefreak: probably is, to say the opposite :)
[12:30] <ashyg> i have a d-link dwlg122 usb wireless adaptor
[12:30] <phiber_optic> gnomefreak do you know whats the command for booting in grub in command base?
[12:30] <ashyg> how do i use it with linux
[12:30] <hawking> soundray : how to figure that out*
[12:30] <mwe> existance: I don't understand, you have two videocards in the same machine?
[12:30] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, please explain
[12:30] <existance> mwe, yea, AGP and a PCI
[12:30] <gnomefreak> lol bimberi
[12:31] <bimberi> :P
[12:31] <soundray> hawking, dpkg -l libxkbfile1. Also, do a dpkg -l xkeyboard-config and pls let me know both versions.
[12:31] <mwe> existance: I have no idead how to configure that
[12:31] <kamme> hello, I've installed apache2 and php5 for the first time on my server, and it works perfect for me, but noone else can view pages from it. What could be wrong?
[12:31] <phiber_optic> lets say I dont have the gui, and im only command how could I boot ubuntu.. I mean what would be the command to start it
[12:31] <soundray> hawking *version numbers
[12:31] <existance> mwe, mm, oh well
[12:31] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  Oh, one thing
[12:32] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, to start gnome you mean?
[12:32] <hawking> soundray : libxkbfile1 is 7.0.0-3 and xkeyboard-config is 0.6-5breezy1
[12:32] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  I don't think it'll let you have different true resolutions on the two monitors.  When I set to different resolutions on the two, it makes them both the same resolution with a panning desktop on the bigger one
[12:32] <mwe> phiber_optic: you would not need a command to start it
[12:32] <phiber_optic> noop, lets say I turn on my computer. Then I get to the grup command promp. How will I be able to boot ubuntu
[12:32] <mwe> phiber_optic: you'd just login at the console
[12:32] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, when you turn your pc on if you are dual booting it will give you a choice to boot from whatever is insstalled
[12:32] <soundray> hawking, it may be worth reinstalling them: 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install libxkbfile1 xkeyboard-config'
[12:32] <hawking> soundray : tryin
[12:33] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, use the arrows to scroll to what you want to boot to and poof log-in all is well
[12:33] <phiber_optic> yeahh.. I know but lets say it is not showing me the options. it only shows me the command prompt
[12:33] <ashyg> so does anyone know how i can use this dwlg d-link usb wireless dongle because i need to get online really bad
[12:33] <pinkisntwell> do I have to have my printer turned on when I login for it to work?
[12:33] <ashyg> dwlg122 *
[12:33] <hawking> soundray : I guess I'll have to restart x after that right?
[12:33] <dabugas> heh.... randomly installing relevant packages solved my problem: with akode-mpeg i get audio in xine :)
[12:33] <soundray> hawking, first try setxkbmap without restarting.
[12:33] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, than either you just have ubuntu on that pc or grub is broken
[12:33] <mwe> phiber_optic: I don't understand your question. you want to know how to start X from the command line or what
[12:33] <bnD> hi, can someone tell me how to make an iso from a cd-rom?
[12:34] <bnD> so i can then burn multiple copies of it?
[12:34] <hawking> soundray : same error
[12:34] <bimberi> phiber_optic: i'll paste the commands from my menu.lst in #flood
[12:34] <gnomefreak> mwe i think he is ssaying grub doesnt show up
[12:34] <hawking> soundray : maybe I should try xkeyboard-config version 0.6.6
[12:34] <hawking> as written in bugzilla
[12:34] <mwe> gnomefreak: oh
[12:34] <zelevw> bnD: try using gnomebaker or k3b
[12:34] <bain> Hi all, I'm having great difficulty getting ubuntu with a number of things. First off I cannot get it on the net. using network-admin I cannot add a new connection for my wireless. there is no "Add" button to add a connection
[12:34] <soundray> hawking, if you mean 0.6-6, I agree. Restart X this time to be sure.
[12:34] <phiber_optic> ok lets say I only installed grub, what will be the command to start ubuntu if I m not able to scroll
[12:34] <bain> I'm running Breezy
[12:35] <cello_rasp> hmm i have gnome 2.12 but it seems i cant change the preferred applications for filetypes..
[12:35] <gnomefreak> mwe im not sure cause he was trying to install splash but was asking me if that was grub :(
[12:35] <robotgeek> bain: install network-manager
[12:35] <bnD> zelevw, i dont see an option for ripping cd -> iso
[12:35] <phiber_optic> if im in grub command line mode
[12:35] <bain> robotgeek: aha,h ok  .. thanks . .
[12:35] <bimberi> phiber_optic: there are a few, i'll paste the commands from my menu.lst in #flood
[12:35] <hawking> soundray : ok
[12:35] <mwe> gnomefreak: yeah :|
[12:35] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, there is no grub command line unoless you hit something you didnt want to
[12:35] <cello_rasp> bnD: rightclick the cd disk icon on the desktop?
[12:35] <ashyg> How do I get my D-Link DWLG122 wireless USB adaptor working in Ubuntu?
[12:35] <mwe> !tell bain about wireless
[12:36] <bnD> cello_rasp, im not in gnome
[12:36] <soundray> bnD, it should just work by doing 'sudo dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso'
[12:36] <mwe> bain: read /msg from ubotu
[12:36] <bain> second .. get X to use nvidia .. I keep getting "device not found" when trying to modprobe
[12:36] <bnD> soundray, that will make an iso?
[12:36] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell phiber_optic about grub
[12:36] <ashyg>   Needs linux-wlan-ng and manual configuration is what the wiki says
[12:36] <soundray> bnD, if your CD is in iso format, yes.
[12:36] <bnD> soundray, thanks
[12:36] <mwe> !tell bain about nvidia
[12:36] <phiber_optic> thanx gnomefreak
[12:36] <mwe> bain: read that too
[12:36] <gnomefreak> yw phiber_optic
[12:37] <cello_rasp> !tell cello_rasp about wireless
[12:37] <bain> ok .. thanks all
[12:37] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  You can use ndiswrapper if it doesn't have a linux driver
[12:37] <mwe> mitrovarr: it doesn't work with all cards though
[12:37] <Moratorium> what does "failed to initialize HAL mean?
[12:37] <ashyg> mitrovarr: i don't understand, what is ndiswrapper? i can't download anything on this computer, remember
[12:37] <bain> mwe: ok .. the wireless device is not "wireless", I usually use adsl-setup etc to set it up .. it's connected via ethernet ..
[12:37] <mitrovarr> mwe:  Maybe not, but it works on a lot.  It worked on mine.  Certainly it is worth a shot.
[12:37] <ashyg> so no apt-get from universe
[12:38] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  ndiswrapper is on the CD.  Good decision on whoever made the cd's part :-D
[12:38] <mwe> mitrovarr: right!
[12:38] <tuv> synaptic says packages are not authenticated, what is the command to update apt keys?
[12:38] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  Let me remember how I did this...
[12:38] <mwe> bain: you're wireless is not wireless :)
[12:38] <levander> Is there a command line command I can run to see if there are updates for my system?  Maybe it is 'apt-get --simulate update', but that seems to take a little long.
[12:38] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell tuv about gpg
[12:38] <mwe> bain: well in that case it's a different story
[12:38] <Moratorium> what does "failed to initialize HAL" mean?
[12:39] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  You have windows drivers for it?
[12:39] <soundray> levander, apt-get dist-upgrade. Just say no to the question that follows.
[12:39] <gnomefreak> levander, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:39] <ashyg> mitrovarr: i do
[12:39] <ashyg> mitrovarr: win xp and win nt versions
[12:39] <gnomefreak> i think its sudo after the &&
[12:39] <bain> mwe: well it is wireless .. but it uses pppoe over ethernet ;P but it's not wirless as in 801b or whatever the spec is ;P
[12:39] <mitrovarr> ashyg: alright, find the .inf file for the driver
[12:39] <jaygo333> wot do I do now
[12:39] <mitrovarr> ashyg: on the cd or whatnot
[12:39] <levander> No guys, I just want to check to see if there are updates.  I don't want to actually update.
[12:39] <jaygo333> first time in irc
[12:39] <Xenguy> levander: I do this daily: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[12:39] <gnomefreak> jaygo333, are you having issues with ubuntu?
[12:39] <bain> lemme try installing network-manager ..
[12:39] <mitrovarr> ashyg: oh, one thing, ndiswrapper might concievably make the system unstable, give you kernal panics, etc.  It works great for me but ymmv.
[12:40] <levander> jaygo333: you just ask questions, this is a support channel, do you have questions about unbuntu
[12:40] <Xenguy> levander: nm
[12:40] <bain> be back later
[12:40] <soundray> jaygo333, hang around and answer support questions :)
[12:40] <hawking> soundray : still the same error ://
[12:40] <ashyg> mitrovarr: okay well i found the inf now what
[12:40] <platos> levander: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -s
[12:40] <Moratorium> what does "failed to initialize HAL" mean?  anybody?
[12:40] <platos> levander: it will show you the packages it wants to updaet
[12:40] <gnomefreak> -s?
[12:40] <lsuactiafner> anyone know of nice software to create a 1 minute clip digitally?
[12:40] <soundray> hawking, this is strange. I'll have a look at your trace again.
[12:40] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  Let me find some instructions.  It's easy, but you have to do it right
[12:40] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhhh
[12:40] <gnomefreak> nm
[12:40] <jaygo333> nice, I need help with my ati at the moment
[12:40] <hawking> soundray : what was the command to trace that?
[12:40] <fluffyashes> Can i get some help?
[12:40] <ashyg> also mitrovarr should i try the win xp or win 2000 drivers
[12:40] <Moratorium> Im getting that error upon the start up of xwindows
[12:41] <avouser> got dirty with it!
[12:41] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  I don't know.  I'd try XP first, I guess.
[12:41] <ashyg> ok
[12:41] <phiber_optic> I LOVE UBUNTUU
[12:41] <platos> levander: for more information see too: apt-get --help
[12:41] <Moratorium> dont we all, jaygo333
[12:41] <fluffyashes> I'm getting an error: (Reading database ... dpkg: error processing ubuntu-desktop (--remove):
[12:41] <fluffyashes>  files list file for package `nautilus' contains empty filename
[12:41] <fluffyashes> " whenver i try and use apt-get
[12:41] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  try the ndiswrapper command to make sure it's installed
[12:41] <soundray> hawking, 'strace setxkbmap tr'. But I still have the output. It won't have changed if the error is the same.
[12:41] <LordMelkor> how can i configure my grafx driver?
[12:41] <avouser> made sym link to rsh and rlogin
[12:41] <ashyg> yea, i just installed it from synaptic Mit
[12:41] <ashyg> mitrovarr:
[12:41] <mitrovarr> ashyg: ah
[12:41] <avouser> them setup passwordless ssh
[12:41] <LordMelkor> or how do i access DRI?
[12:41] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, go tell xp users ubuntu is better :)
[12:42] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  Do a ndiswrapper -i <path of .inf file>
[12:42] <mwe> Moratorium: it means it failed to initialize the hardware abstraction layer. to find out why I need log files though
[12:42] <phiber_optic> yeahh I know F.... WINBLOWS
[12:42] <hawking> soundray : here it is http://rafb.net/paste/results/6gQZlR64.html it's same I guess
[12:42] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  did that work?
[12:42] <fluffyashes> I have an error with apt-get can anyone help me?
[12:42] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  You may need to sudo
[12:42] <Moratorium> mwe, I have no way to give you those
[12:42] <Moratorium> or find them
[12:42] <mwe> Moratorium: bad luck then
[12:42] <LordMelkor> How can I configure my graphics driver? or How do I access DRI?
[12:43] <mwe> Moratorium: /var/log
[12:43] <Moratorium> how do i get to the terminal without a mouse?
[12:43] <hawking> soundray : access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)      = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)   there is smth missing I guess
[12:43] <ashyg> okay mitrovarr i think it did
[12:43] <sampan> moratorium  hit alt-f2 -- type: gnome-terminal ... then alt-tab to select it -- that should work i think
[12:43] <ashyg> it said something about specified destination directory does not exist but it still copied
[12:44] <ashyg> mitrovarr: now what is left to do
[12:44] <SmartUnix> hi
[12:44] <haasteem> hi, how can i check if alsa is running in blackbox?... i suspect something is not right with my sound now that i run ubuntu in blackbox...
[12:44] <LordMelkor> any ideas?
[12:44] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  now do 'ndiswrapper -m' to make it a module.
[12:44] <ashyg> mitrovarr: i run ndiswrapper -l and it says Installed ndis drivers: windows invalid driver!
[12:44] <phiber_optic> ill be back
[12:45] <ashyg> okay i ran that
[12:45] <soundray> hawking, that isn't the problem. It loads another file instead and continues. The problem is further down...
[12:45] <SmartUnix> what is this message mean
[12:45] <SmartUnix> NO CARRIER
[12:45] <SmartUnix> --> No Carrier!  Trying again.
[12:45] <Moratorium> ok, which log? mwe
[12:45] <hawking> soundray  : I see
[12:45] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  did you try ndiswrapper -m?
[12:45] <ashyg> yea i did mitrovarr
[12:45] <ashyg> it worked
[12:45] <soundray> hawking, where it tries to "write(3, "\222\27\24\0\0\1\277\0\377\0\1\0\0\27xfree86+aliases(q"..., 80) = 80" and fails
[12:45] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  then do 'modprobe ndiswrapper' to load the module
[12:45] <ashyg> said adding alis wlan0 ndiswrapper to modprobe bla bla
[12:45] <hawking> soundray : oh what's that?
[12:46] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  now you do ndiswrapper -l
[12:46] <ashyg> ok i ran that mitrovarr
[12:46] <soundray> hawking, but I don't know what to make of the "resource temporarily unavailable"
[12:46] <ashyg> says windows invalid driver
[12:46] <ashyg> when i do -l
[12:46] <mitrovarr> ashyg: did you try it again after doing modprobe and such?
[12:46] <ashyg> yes
[12:46] <fluffyashes> I have a error with apt-get and can't update or install anything can someone help me
[12:46] <mitrovarr> ashyg: shoot
[12:46] <platos> fluffyashes: what is your error message?
[12:46] <hawking> soundray : :/
[12:46] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  did it load the module ok?
[12:46] <soundray> hawking, have you tried setting up another user, logging into KDE as that and changing the kbd layout there?
[12:46] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, what erorr?
[12:46] <ashyg> mitrovarr: yes
[12:46] <hawking> soundray : no... can that help?
[12:47] <ashyg> it didn't barf if that's what you mean
[12:47] <fluffyashes> platos:  files list file for package `nautilus' contains empty filename
[12:47] <ashyg> mitrovarr: it had no success message either though
[12:47] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  try going into system -> administration -> networking to see if your wireless card shows up
[12:47] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: there's more than what i just said but that's the gist of it, after that it quits cause it has too many errors
[12:47] <platos> fluffyashes: try apt-get -f install
[12:47] <ashyg> mitrovarr: i don't see it in there
[12:47] <zelevw> ashyg: iwconfig
[12:47] <soundray> hawking, we're ringfencing the problem :)
[12:47] <platos> fluffyashes: most of the time that solves it
[12:47] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, are the other errors caused by that one or is that one caused by them?
[12:47] <mwe> Moratorium: probably syslog and Xorg.0.log
[12:47] <hawking> soundray : :) trying that
[12:48] <ashyg> zelevw: says no wireless extensions on lo, eth0 and sit0
[12:48] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  shoot.  Maybe try it again with the NT driver
[12:48] <hawking> soundray : But all I know is
[12:48] <mwe> Moratorium: and the gdm log
[12:48] <hawking> soundray : this occured after my reinstall .. I mean it used to work before
[12:48] <Moratorium> nevermind, mwe, Im going to try and get the touchpad working first
[12:48] <fluffyashes> platos: that command just multiplied my errors by the power of 10
[12:48] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  make sure you're doing the whole thing as root or with sudo
[12:48] <hawking> soundray : that's why I want to reinstall X
[12:48] <ashyg> mitrovarr: i used sudo
[12:48] <hawking> soundray : doesn't that make sense?
[12:48] <ashyg> mitrovarr: so how do i start
[12:48] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, you used sudo right?
[12:49] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: that's the only error it was showing before it quit
[12:49] <tuv> gnomefreak: i don't need to know about gpg, i need to know how to update apt's keys so that packages get authenticated
[12:49] <mitrovarr> ashyg: if ndiswrapper -l failed I don't know exactly.  I'd try the same sequence on the NT drivers, maybe.
[12:49] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: yes, i did
[12:49] <soundray> hawking, well, I suppose it's worth a try.
[12:49] <fluffyashes> let me get a pastebin on what it just spit out
[12:49] <soundray> hawking, 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg'
[12:49] <hawking> soundray : ok trying... will kde go down as doing that?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> tuv,  gpg keys are what apt checks before installing a package
[12:50] <tuv> gnomefreak: i know, but i need the new keys for some repositories so that packages get authenticated
[12:50] <JairunCaloth> does anyone have experiance connecting MIDI keyboards via usb?
[12:50] <soundray> hawking, no, but I would stop X and do it from the console just for sanity.
[12:50] <gnomefreak> tuv, apt compares the gpg against the key number apt has if it has it if not it will error
[12:50] <gnomefreak> tuv, what repos?
[12:50] <ashyg> mitrovarr: when i run ndiswrapper -i .inf it says "dirname: too many arguments try dirname --help... installing windows cp: '/etc/ndiswrapper/windows/windows.inf': specified destination directory does not exist' try cp--help
[12:50] <tonyisntcreative> does anyone in here use notlame?
[12:50] <ashyg> i think ndiswrapper is broken
[12:51] <Blipp> as
[12:51] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  ah
[12:51] <fluffyashes> platos, gnomefreak: here is my latest terminal http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7042
[12:51] <SmartUnix> http://pastebin.com/503250 this is problem which show for me
[12:51] <soundray> ashyg, yes, by design :)
[12:51] <mwe> you can add keys with apt-key
[12:51] <DShepherd> **shouts like town boy** 3 months left to dapper and all is well
[12:51] <DShepherd> **shouts like town boy** 3 months left to dapper and all is well
[12:51] <ashyg> all is not well, i've been trying for 24 hours straight to get this stupid computer to network
[12:51] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  try copying the contents of the directory with the .inf to another, more accessible directory
[12:52] <DavidW2> Hi. It seems that apache2 requires apache, but when apache starts up startup it is conflicting with apache2
[12:52] <ashyg> hey mitrovarr do you know why it configured my settings via DHCP fine during installation
[12:52] <ashyg> but after installation dhconfig does not work(not via wireless, this is via my wired connection)
[12:52] <platos> ashyg: dapper is great, however lots o bugs in it
[12:52] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  It dhcp'd over the network while installing ubuntu?
[12:52] <ashyg> because my ethernet controller is not supported in the linux kernel... does the installation process not use the linux kernel?
[12:52] <DShepherd> DavidW2, from what I know apache2 doesnt require apache
[12:52] <ashyg> mitrovarr: the wired one did, yes
[12:53] <LordMelkor> how can i enable direct rendering?
[12:53] <mitrovarr> ashyg: oh, well, that should have worked.
[12:53] <DavidW2> DShepherd: something is pulling it in. How do I check which package wants it?
[12:53] <LordMelkor> when i run "glxinfo|grep direct" in the terminal
[12:53] <DavidW2> DShepherd: Also, how can I just make it not start by default, so that only apache2 starts?
[12:53] <ashyg> mitrovarr: no, i can see that my DNS servers and everything are set right
[12:53] <LordMelkor> i get direct render: No
[12:53] <hawking> soundray : guess what happened? #@;)
[12:53] <phiber_optic> I tried to changed the background for the grub booter and I couldnt :(
[12:53] <ashyg> HOWEVER i cannot run dhconfig or connect to any intra/internet addresses
[12:53] <tonyisntcreative> does anyone in here use notlame?
[12:53] <soundray> hawking, same problem?
[12:53] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  So you're trying to use the wired card now?
[12:54] <hawking> soundray : no it's done!
[12:54] <phiber_optic> i put this to my menu.lst and it didnt work splashimage=(hdb1,0)/boot/grup/images/grubuntu.xpm.gz
[12:54] <gnomefreak> phiber_optic, i told you its alot of work and its not easy
[12:54] <ashyg> i want to use either, mitrovarr
[12:54] <hawking> soundray : :)
[12:54] <phiber_optic> yeah i know
[12:54] <phiber_optic> :(
[12:54] <fluffyashes> platos: here's the error to the fix command with apt-get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7042
[12:54] <soundray> hawking, arrgh! Sorry I held you up.
[12:54] <ashyg> either that will work so i don't have to switch to gentoo until dapper comes out ;)
[12:54] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  I'd be surprised if the wired card didn't just work, most of them work in linux.
[12:54] <hawking> soundray : no problems :) I appreciate your help
[12:54] <ashyg> mitrovarr: it's a known issue with the linux kernel and my ethernet driver
[12:54] <platos> fluffyashes: weird error, are you using breezy?
[12:54] <ashyg> mitrovarr: it's been fixed in the latest versions of the kernel
[12:54] <Tortel> !tell me about apt
[12:54] <gnomefreak> grub is not something to play with unless you know what to do before you do it cause it can and will leave your pc unusable :)
[12:54] <hawking> soundray : just kde looks a bit fuzzy
[12:54] <mitrovarr> ashyg: oh.... I bet the installer uses a different kernel
[12:54] <ashyg> mitrovarr: and in dapper
[12:54] <platos> fluffyashes: are are you upgrading?
[12:54] <DShepherd> DavidW2, sudo aptitude install apache2 should install apache
[12:54] <phiber_optic> ;)
[12:54] <hawking> soundray : I'll restart the comp
[12:55] <mitrovarr> ashyg: you could always download the sources and compile yourself a newer kernel
[12:55] <soundray> hawking, an antialiasing thing?
[12:55] <phiber_optic> i just want to change the background
[12:55] <gnomefreak> platos, what if he uninstalled ubuntu-desktop and reinstalled it?
[12:55] <fluffyashes> platos: this is a fresh install i just did apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade
[12:55] <phiber_optic> to put an ubuntu one
[12:55] <ashyg> mitrovarr: i can't compile a new kernel because you need gcc 3.4 to do it
[12:55] <hawking> soundray : no I mean the fonts got a bit bigger
[12:55] <mitrovarr> ashyg: ah.  Let me check to see if ndis is supposed to work with your wireless card
[12:55] <platos> fluffyashes: yeah but what version? 5.10 or 6.04 ?
[12:55] <fluffyashes> platos: no matter what i try to install from apt-get or dpkg it sends me that error
[12:55] <mwe> ashyg: install gcc3.4
[12:55] <ashyg> and i can't get gcc 3.4 because you need the internet for it :)
[12:55] <mwe> ashyg: install gcc3.4
[12:55] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  I bet the installer uses a different kernel than the system it installs
[12:55] <ashyg>  Needs linux-wlan-ng and manual configuration
[12:55] <specialbuddy> how do I get karamba on synaptic
[12:55] <platos> gnomefreak: that could work
[12:56] <DavidW2> DShepherd: I have apache2 already...
[12:56] <ashyg> that is what the hardware support wiki entry says about my wireless adaptor, mitrovarr
[12:56] <phiber_optic> any hints gnome freak?
[12:56] <fluffyashes> platos: 5.10
[12:56] <soundray> hawking, may be a dpi thing.
[12:56] <DShepherd> DavidW2, do you need apache also?
[12:56] <mwe> !info karamba
[12:56] <ubotu> karamba: (A program improving the eyecandy of KDE), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.17-5build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 68 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[12:56] <hawking> soundray : would restarting fix that?
[12:56] <gnomefreak> it looks like all ther errors are based around that one package
[12:56] <ashyg> ok i installed linux-wlan-ng
[12:56] <LordMelkor> how can i enable direct rendering????
[12:56] <mwe> specialbuddy: add universe to sources.list
[12:56] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, try sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[12:56] <mwe> !tell specialbuddy about universe
[12:56] <specialbuddy> thanks
[12:56] <LordMelkor> when i run "glxinfo|grep direct" in the terminal, i get direct rendering: no
[12:56] <bain> and back again .. ;P
[12:57] <soundray> hawking, I don't know. It's a question of what the combination of your monitor and graphics card report as the dpi value, and how the X driver handles that info.
[12:57] <platos> gnomefreak: yeah and around nautilus i think
[12:57] <mwe> LordMelkor: 3d is b0rked then
[12:57] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: that gives me my original error
[12:57] <DShepherd> DavidW2, if not..uninstall it.
[12:57] <gnomefreak> LordMelkor, that means you dont have 3d acceleration
[12:57] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: i basically can't do anyhting with apt-get
[12:57] <hawking> soundray  : I see anyway I have my layout it's not that important :)))
[12:57] <soundray> hawking, so go ahead and try.
[12:57] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, remind me what the error is please
[12:57] <bain> mwe: ok ... where can I get info on doing pppoe connections on a fresh ubuntu install ?
[12:57] <platos> fluffyashes: apt-get remove nautilus
[12:57] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  Ah.  Well, I don't have experience with those particular programs, ndiswrapper worked without any problems for my usb adapter.
[12:57] <fluffyashes> platos: i've tried that i still get the same error
[12:57] <mwe> bain: have you checked wiki.ubuntu.com?
[12:57] <soundray> hawking, happy typing in turkish then. :)
[12:57] <DavidW2> DShepherd: services-admin can do this, btu only graphically :(
[12:58] <platos> gnomefreak: could dpkg be broken
[12:58] <hawking> soundray : well I couldn't type @ and # too ;)
[12:58] <DavidW2> DShepherd: No, I don't need apache, but as I said as soon as I uninstall it, the next update pulls it back in
[12:58] <hawking> soundray : to join a channel I had to find #somewhere and copy-paste lol
[12:58] <gnomefreak> platos, it could but i would the the .deb package would be first
[12:58] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7043
[12:58] <tonyisntcreative> does anyone in here use notlame?
[12:58] <mwe> bain: I don't know of hand since I've never used pppoe
[12:58] <DShepherd> DavidW2, I am not sure why that happens...
[12:58] <gnomefreak> dpkg is hard to break :(
[12:58] <ratschnowski> hello, i am using postfix 2.2.4 on ubuntu breezer withd PAM/SASL/POSTGRESQL, When doing smtp authentication i always get the error: SASL authentication failure: size read failed
[12:58] <soundray> hawking, hold on a second, there's a trick you should know...
[12:58] <ashyg> guys how do i view the currently connected usb items
[12:58] <fluffyashes> platos: the error i've been getting from the begining is here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7043 i get it basically with every apt-get command
[12:59] <bimberi> ashyg: lsusb
[12:59] <Mabus06> hey, I'm trying to install ubuntu on a dell, but it keeps failing during the install, right after the part where you pick what kernel to use (it fails regardless of the choice).. I installed ubuntu with this same cd just yesterday on this machine, and it worked fine. Could anyone help?
[12:59] <ratschnowski> anyoneknow what that error means?
[12:59] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  usbview works really well if you have it
[12:59] <DShepherd> DavidW2, try #apache
[12:59] <Delvien> Anyone able to configure VMWARE under Linux kernel version 2.6.16-11-386?
[12:59] <phiber_optic> gnomefreak how can i see what partition name suchs as hd1 or hdb2 is my linux?
[01:00] <mwe> Mabus06: the same cd fails on the same machine that accepted it the day before?
[01:00] <ashyg>   USB stick - works well in Breezy / ndiswrapper (the one provided in synaptic), with the drivers provided on the CD
[01:00] <sklav> i got a question
[01:00] <ashyg> mitrovarr:  i was looking at the wrong one on the list
[01:00] <ashyg> mitrovarr:   USB stick - works well in Breezy / ndiswrapper (the one provided in synaptic), with the drivers provided on the CD
[01:00] <ashyg> that's the proper info for my stick
[01:00] <sklav> to become a maintainer i have a question regarding debs
[01:00] <ashyg> so can you help me remove the modprobe and all that and start over/
[01:00] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, type apt-cache gcc
[01:00] <Mabus06> mwe, no, this machine installed with that cd just fine. The dell does not. The dell also had problems installing windows.
[01:00] <ashyg> i ran modprobe -r ndiswrapper
[01:00] <ashyg> and that worked
[01:00] <sklav> does it automatically calcxulate what package is installed or like rpm you have to specify the %install?
[01:00] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  <nods>
[01:01] <ashyg> and ndiswrapper -e windows
[01:01] <Delvien> Anyone help with this http://pastebin.com/503265??
[01:01] <ashyg> then ndiswrapper -i nt.info
[01:01] <mwe> Mabus06: it's a windows pc and it can't install windows?
[01:01] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  now it's just ndiswrapper -i <path to driver>
[01:01] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: sudo apt-cache gcc returns "E: Invalid operation gcc"
[01:01] <mwe> Mabus06: sounds like broken hardware
[01:01] <mitrovarr> ashyg: ndiswrapper -m
[01:01] <paulproteus|lapt> apt-cache search gcc, fluffyashes
[01:01] <ashyg> and then ndiswrapper -m and it said that a modprobe entry already exists for it
[01:01] <paulproteus|lapt> *search*
[01:01] <gnomefreak> oops
[01:01] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  hmm.  Sounds like you need to get rid of the old module
[01:01] <gnomefreak> apt-cache search gcc
[01:02] <sklav> Delvien, i think its /usr/include/something
[01:02] <fluffyashes> paulproteus|lapt: it sent me a lot of info that's it
[01:02] <ashyg> mitrovarr: how is that done
[01:02] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, have you tried using synaptic?
[01:02] <mitrovarr> ashyg: looking it up
[01:02] <paulproteus|lapt> Synaptic is da bomb.
[01:02] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  worst-case scenario, go look for the ndiswrapper file in the file system
[01:02] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: if you mean the graphical version of apt-get (the one that appears in the tray) then it has the same error
[01:03] <hawking> soundray : lol I restarted it and keyboard layout gone again
[01:03] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm
[01:03] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, i mean that one that is found in system>admin>synaptic
[01:03] <timfrost> Delvien, have you installed build-essential, linux-headers-$(uname -r) and gcc-3.4?
[01:03] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: System>Admin>Update Manager
[01:03] <Steve^> opera likes to call kfmclient for opening downloaded files in the right program. I presume that is a KDE thing though, what would the gnome equivalent be?
[01:03] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, no
[01:03] <mwe> hawking: so just fix it at every boot :)
[01:03] <Delvien> timfrost aye :p
[01:03] <Psi-Jack> Oh yeah. I have an Nvidia card, and I'm wondering why GL screensavers run /extremely/ slow. Any ideas?
[01:03] <hawking> mwe : reinstalling X at every boot?
[01:03] <gnomefreak> i mean system>admin>synaptic package mannager
[01:03] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  It should be in /lib/modules somewhere
[01:04] <hawking> isn't that weird?
[01:04] <mwe> hawking: yeah
[01:04] <Delvien> timfrost lemme install them again just to make sure
[01:04] <soundray> hawking, quick tip: Shift-Ctrl-23 generates #. Shift-Ctrl-40 is for @. man ascii to find out the hex code for each character you want to enter.
[01:04] <Steve^> hawking, I had to reinstall my sound drivers every reboot in SuSE. Gets tiring, and that's fairly simple
[01:04] <sklav> Delvien, try /usr/include/linux
[01:04] <Ophiocus> can cp take an argument in between brackets if the directory has white spaces?
[01:04] <mwe> hawking: why would you reintall X to fix keyboard layout?
[01:04] <sklav> Psi-Jack, probably cause you dont have 3d-acceleration running
[01:05] <hawking> mwe: wish I knew why
[01:05] <Delvien> sklav trying that now
[01:05] <Ophiocus> sorry in between quotation marks
[01:05] <Psi-Jack> sklav: Well, I'm using the nvidia-glx driver... What else is there?
[01:05] <Delvien> sklav nope, thanks tho
[01:05] <mwe> hawking: you mean the layout in X I take it then
[01:05] <sklav> Psi-Jack, you need to enable it
[01:05] <soundray> mwe, it works that way, that's why...
[01:05] <hawking> mwe : yeah and in KDE
[01:05] <Delvien> timfrost hmm looks like i didnt have the headers... omg all that and i forgot to instal the headers
[01:05] <hawking> mwe : setxkbmap command is for both
[01:05] <testman> you need laptop???
[01:05] <testman> low low price
[01:05] <mwe> hawking: in kde it can be fixed in kcontrol
[01:05] <Psi-Jack> sklav: OKay.. How would I do that? I'm not extremely familiar with X.org
[01:05] <sklav> Psi-Jack, try sudo config-glx enable
[01:06] <sklav> 1 sec
[01:06] <mwe> hawking: for X in general xorg.conf
[01:06] <Psi-Jack> sklav: Ahhh..
[01:06] <hawking> mwe : not if setxkbmap is working
[01:06] <sklav> im making a mistake
[01:06] <hawking> mwe : both fails then
[01:06] <Psi-Jack> sklav: Okay
[01:06] <platos> fluffyashes: you could try rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/nautilus.*     //but no guarantees on this one
[01:06] <sklav> i think its nvidia-glv-config enable
[01:06] <soundray> mwe, we'ce been through all of that.
[01:06] <testman> you need laptop  low low price !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:06] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  try ndiswrapper -l to list the drivers and then ndiswrapper -e <driver that is listed>
[01:06] <sklav> autocomplete on command line should solve it
[01:06] <Delvien> testman what?
[01:06] <soundray> testman, wrong channel.
[01:06] <fluffyashes> platos: i'm currently trying synaptics, it's downloading the files now, i'll keep you updated
[01:07] <mwe> soundray, hawking I'll stop playing clever about it then
[01:07] <platos> fluffyashes: does it downloads? thats great
[01:07] <Psi-Jack> sklav: I have nothing beginning with nvidi on my system..
[01:07] <sklav> try config-glx
[01:07] <fluffyashes> platos: well update manager would download them but it wouldn't install them
[01:07] <sklav> Psi-Jack, 1 sec as im on gentoo now
[01:07] <sklav> and trying to refresh my memory
[01:07] <Psi-Jack> sklav: Hehe, I see. :)
[01:07] <hawking> soundray : I have put "alias psmouse off" in /etc/modprobe.d/local to stop touchpad working... it's dumb I know but may that have caused this layout problem?
[01:07] <soundray> mwe, well, I'd appreciate if you could have a look at hawking's strace of setxkbmap... http://rafb.net/paste/results/6gQZlR64.html
[01:07] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, you will know just befoire it starts installing packages if it works
[01:07] <Mabus06> mwe, what could be broken?
[01:08] <hawking> soundray : ok
[01:08] <hawking> soundray : I reinstalled xkbutils and it worked
[01:08] <hawking> soundray : lol
[01:08] <platos> gnomefreak: how about him deleting /var/lib/dpkg/info/nautilus.* ?
[01:08] <hawking> soundray : this is crazy
[01:08] <mwe> Mabus06: ram, disk, whatever
[01:08] <mwe> Mabus06: cpu
[01:08] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: i get the same error with synaptics that i got with update manager
[01:08] <hawking> soundray : it was the command that has the bug
[01:08] <timfrost> Delvien, did installing headers fix your problem?
[01:08] <sklav> ok Psi-Jack do the following
[01:08] <soundray> hawking, wonder if it'll last through a reboot this time.
[01:08] <sklav> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable\
[01:08] <sklav> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[01:08] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: it just halts installation at (reading database ...
[01:08] <hawking> soundray : same here ...
[01:08] <pinkisntwell> do I have to have my printer turned on when I login for it to work?
[01:09] <gnomefreak> platos, i never did that :( i dont know never got a nautilus error on breezy :(
[01:09] <TCTCH> hi all, I reinstalled the VLC-Player a cuple days ago...and what do I see: It looks ugly since I upgrated to brezzy...is there any change to change that back?
[01:09] <soundray> hawking, did you get my line about Shift-Ctrl?
[01:09] <Psi-Jack> sklav: I don't have nvidia-glx-config, though..
[01:09] <sklav> Psi-Jack, do the following
[01:09] <platos> gnomefreak: well basically this is the error:  files list file for package `nautilus' contains empty filename
[01:09] <Mabus06> mwe, but it still runs and stuff.... :S
[01:09] <Delvien> timfrost looks like it
[01:10] <fluffyashes> platos: synaptics failed with the same error as update manager.  Apt-get is a little more descriptive this one just halts at reading database
[01:10] <bain__> alo.. again .. ok .. pppoeconf doens't work .. says it can't geta  responce frommy ISP
[01:10] <sklav> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:10] <gnomefreak> platos, i think thats a good shot
[01:10] <platos> fluffyashes, could you pastebin this file: /var/lib/dpkg/info/nautilus.list
[01:10] <sklav> bain__, i had issue with pppoeconf
[01:10] <bain> sklav: how did you solve it ?
[01:10] <Psi-Jack> sklav: Heh, wow.. nvidia-glx wasn't even installed..
[01:10] <sklav> i had to modify the /etc/ppp/pap-secret file
[01:10] <bain> since I'm on the same PC now using a gentoo boot cd
[01:11] <bain> sklav: to what ?
[01:11] <Delvien> timfrost had to do the UDF hack :P
[01:11] <bain> or do you mean manually ?
[01:11] <sklav> it would not save it the way i entered it
[01:11] <fluffyashes> platos: is it supposed to be in another language?
[01:11] <sklav> and look into /var/log/messages
[01:11] <bain> sklav: I don't even get to entering details ...
[01:11] <sklav> to see if you actually connecting
[01:11] <platos> fluffyashes: what do you mean? it should be english...
[01:12] <mwe> soundray: it looks like it can't find the rules
[01:12] <sklav> did you complete the pppoeconf or is it failing there?
[01:12] <fluffyashes> platos: it's not english http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7044
[01:12] <hawking> soundray : oh yeah! :)
[01:12] <bain> sklav: it fails ... it shows my eth .. then it tries to detect something .. which fails ..
[01:12] <Psi-Jack> sklav: Okay. BRB. Gotta restart X. :)
[01:12] <hawking> soundray : it's too weird that it was the command that had the bug lol
[01:12] <sklav> ok Psi-Jack
[01:12] <sklav> bain any weird network config?
[01:12] <platos> fluffyashes and that is this file:  /var/lib/dpkg/info/nautilus.list
[01:13] <tom__> so dare I ask how many times you guys have been asked to help with the wpa_supplicant
[01:13] <bain> sklav: no network .. single machine with one ethernet
[01:13] <soundray> hawking, so reinstalling xkbutils fixed it? (mwe!)
[01:13] <hawking> soundray : yup!
[01:13] <sklav> bain, you connected to the ethernet modem? or it is usb?
[01:13] <soundray> hawking, did you get my line about Shift-Ctrl?
[01:13] <mwe> that's odd
[01:13] <bain> sklav: ethernet
[01:13] <somerville32> How do I install gcc 3.* for Ubuntu?
[01:13] <sklav> ok
[01:13] <fluffyashes> platos: i copy and pasted that filename from xchat into a terminal window
[01:13] <hawking> soundray : can i get that ascii table somewhere?
[01:13] <sklav> and the setup alwas worked before?
[01:13] <soundray> hawking, man ascii
[01:14] <sklav> or is it 1st time setup
[01:14] <fluffyashes> platos:  gedit /var/lib/dpkg/info/nautilus.list &
[01:14] <bain> sklav: first time using ubuntu ;P
[01:14] <platos> fluffyashes: wait a min i'll install nautilus on my breezy box
[01:14] <sklav> ok
[01:14] <sklav> what is your network card?
[01:14] <bain> sklav: but seasoned linux user ;P
[01:14] <sklav> which model
[01:14] <bain> sklav: davicom .. tulip based
[01:14] <sklav> ifconfig eth0 doe sit show anything?
[01:14] <hawking> soundray : so Ctrl+Shift + Hex value right?
[01:14] <bain> sklav: no
[01:15] <soundray> hawking, correct.
[01:15] <hawking> soundray : that's cool too :) thanx
[01:15] <sklav> you get an error or just something that is ip blank and so on
[01:15] <soundray> hawking, strangely, I have to press shift first.
[01:15] <Delvien> timfrost aye up and running, thanks for the suggestion . I love my vmware.... the only pleasurable experience i have with windows is when linux is running it
[01:15] <jtaylor> I am trying to silence a program by sending stderr and stdout to /dev/null but it still writes stuff to the screen... Is there something else I have to do?  I am currently doing ./program 2>&1 > /dev/null
[01:15] <soundray> hawking, it works with unicode, too.
[01:15] <hawking> soundray : bothworks here
[01:15] <bain> sklav: nope, only lo0
[01:15] <sklav> are you doing ifconfig eth0 exactly?
[01:16] <titanium> i moved and i just set up my computers. i can ping and connect using ssh to my headless ubuntu box, but I can't FTP into it; i get connection failed (connection closed by client). nothing has changed with my router or either of the systems; i unplugged them, moved, plugged them back in. i'm trying to connect through the local (internal) ip address. any ideas?
[01:16] <phiber_optic> does anyone know why every time i open xchat the nickname that I first used xchat is still there?
[01:16] <sklav> you should not see lo in this case
[01:16] <bain> sklav: just ifconfig
[01:16] <sklav> no type ifconfig eth0
[01:16] <sklav> to query eth0
[01:16] <somerville32> How do I install gcc 3.* for Ubuntu?
[01:16] <sklav> and tell me what it says
[01:16] <bain> sklav: brb .. rebooting ..
[01:16] <soundray> somerville, 'sudo apt-get install gcc-3.x'
[01:16] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install gcc gcc3.4
[01:17] <somerville32> Will it uninstall gcc 4.0?
[01:17] <gnomefreak> soundray, you have to have gcc to get gcc3.4 :(
[01:17] <gnomefreak> thats why build-essential is nice
[01:17] <soundray> somerville32, no.
[01:17] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: platos suggested that i paste the contents of  /var/lib/dpkg/info/nautilus.list and it seems to be in another language....
[01:17] <Psi-Jack> sklav: Much much better.. :)
[01:17] <sklav> ;)
[01:17] <sklav> awesome to the next issue Psi-Jack
[01:17] <sklav> hehe
[01:17] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, im gonna guess encryped?
[01:17] <somerville32> soundray: Then how will I invoke 3.* instead of 4.*
[01:17] <gnomefreak> or a code?
[01:18] <gnomefreak> paste it on pastebin and ill look at it
[01:18] <platos> gnomerfreak, fluffyashes: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7045
[01:18] <soundray> somerville32, man update-alternatives
[01:18] <platos> gnomefreak: this is what i get
[01:18] <platos> gnomefreak: on my breezy box
[01:19] <pinkisntwell> anyone can help me with printing?
[01:19] <Psi-Jack> sklav: I noticed that I saw an Nvidia logo this time, after I killed kdm and it reloaded. :)
[01:19] <gnomefreak> platos, is that yours im looking at?
[01:19] <platos> gnomefreak: yes
[01:19] <phiber_optic> does anyone know how to change user information in xcha, since everytime i open I have to change it
[01:19] <mitrovarr> I wish they'd pick better names for the ubuntu version
[01:19] <mitrovarr> versions
[01:19] <gnomefreak> what did his look like?
[01:19] <soundray> hawking, are you all set now?
[01:19] <sklav> Psi-Jack, that is a good sign
[01:19] <platos> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7044
[01:19] <gnomefreak> other than empty :(
[01:19] <mitrovarr> Am I the only one who doesn't like them?
[01:19] <hawking> soundray : yup
[01:19] <Determinist> is there a log for the packages that have been installed on the system?
[01:19] <ashyg> mitrovarr: i get them confused
[01:19] <hawking> soundray : thanks :)
[01:19] <soundray> hawking, excellent.
[01:19] <soundray> yq
[01:19] <hawking> soundray : indeed
[01:20] <soundray> yw
[01:20] <hawking> :)
[01:20] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  me too.  Plus, they're just kind of lame.  Breezy badger?  wtf?
[01:20] <mwe> mitrovarr: you mean the codename like breezy?
[01:20] <mitrovarr> mwe: yeah
[01:20] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak, platos: what's weird is that this is a fresh install, the first terminal commands i did were apt-get update apt-get upgrade and that's when i started having the error
[01:20] <sklav> mitrovarr, when you say versions you mean the releases?
[01:20] <sklav> eaxample breezy ?
[01:20] <mitrovarr> sklaw: yeah
[01:20] <mwe> mitrovarr: is debian sarge better?
[01:20] <Determinist> i've just installed afew packages using synaptic, i need to know the dependencies synaptic installed for those packages, how can i find out the entire list of packages installed? is there some sort of log for that?
[01:20] <mitrovarr> mwe: a little, but not much
[01:20] <mwe> mitrovarr: or windows vista
[01:20] <specialbuddy> is it too late to make my swap partition bigger
[01:20] <mitrovarr> mwe:  again, a little, but not much
[01:21] <soundray> Determinist, 'apt-cache depends packagename'
[01:21] <platos> fluffyashes, try dpkg -r -P nautilus
[01:21] <phiber_optic> does anyone know how to change user information in xcha, since everytime i open I have to change it
[01:21] <mitrovarr> mwe:  I like version numbers or year numbers to be honest.
[01:21] <soundray> Determinist, there is an install log somewhere, too...
[01:21] <platos> fluffyashes, and then install nautilus with apt-get install nautilus
[01:21] <gnomefreak> i have a feeling he has a locales issue
[01:21] <mitrovarr> ashyg: did you get ndiswrapper working?
[01:21] <vir> hi is anyone able to help me get my onboard sound working on my mobo i'm using breezy and the chipset is a nforce 4
[01:21] <fluffyashes> platos: dpkg: conflicting actions --purge and --remove
[01:21] <gnomefreak> his locales file is in his nautlius info file
[01:22] <soundray> Determinist, check out the dir /var/log/installer/
[01:22] <Mabus06> Is anyone here willing to help me step by step with figuring out why ubuntu won't install on a second computer I have here?
[01:22] <mwe> mitrovarr: like ubuntu has?
[01:22] <Determinist> soundray, thanks, and yeah, just found it at /var/log/dpkg.log
[01:22] <sklav> phiber_optic, use the  serverlist option and then specify the settings by removing the global config option
[01:22] <gnomefreak> dpkg-reconfigure locales?
[01:22] <mitrovarr> mwe:  yeah, but no one ever uses them.  They just use breezy or hoary or something.  I can never remember which one I have.
[01:22] <platos> gnomefreak: that would be a good guess yes
[01:22] <phiber_optic> thanx
[01:22] <gnomefreak> everything i see in here says locale
[01:22] <sklav> next ubuntu release "beaver damn"
[01:23] <sklav> hehe
[01:23] <mitrovarr> heh
[01:23] <sklav> but to be honest i like it
[01:23] <Mabus06> Beefy Beaver
[01:23] <sklav> in a kidding kind of way
[01:23] <somerville32> Ok
[01:23] <somerville32> I installed gcc 3.4
[01:23] <somerville32> But I dunno where it went
[01:23] <mwe> mitrovarr: lsb_release will tell you what you have
[01:23] <platos> gnomefreak, fluffyashes: well i gotta go sleep, i hope you will find the solution
[01:23] <sklav> the old code names are gone back in the day when a release sounded cool hell i used them cause of it back when
[01:23] <fluffyashes> platos: thank you for your help
[01:24] <gnomefreak> thanks man
[01:24] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:24] <mitrovarr> mwe:  mine just says n/a
[01:24] <_jason2> mitrovarr, lsb_release -a
[01:24] <mwe> mitrovarr: lsb_release -a
[01:24] <ashyg> yea i think i am going to switch to gentoo until Dapper Duck comes out guys :( sorry... but i'm having too many problems with my internet not working and my sound not working and my dual monitors not working and just in general, everything not working
[01:24] <soundray> somerville32, 'man update-alternatives'
[01:24] <somerville32> nvm , I got it
[01:24] <timfrost> somerville32, what are you trying to do?
[01:24] <somerville32> :] 
[01:24] <somerville32> It is gcc-3.4
[01:24] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, in your menu somewhere do you see language selecter?
[01:24] <mitrovarr> mwe:  ah.  Still, the names are just kind of silly
[01:24] <sklav> ashyg, you telling me you got all that working on gentoo but not on ubuntu?
[01:25] <ashyg> yes
[01:25] <sklav> wow
[01:25] <mwe> mitrovarr: maybe
[01:25] <sklav> took me 3 days to get my X working on gentoo
[01:25] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  why'd you leave gentoo?
[01:25] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: i think that's one of the packages that needs to be installed or wants to be installed
[01:25] <_jason2> ashyg, what kind of hardware do you have?
[01:25] <ashyg> mitrovarr: i tried ubuntu and i preferred it because everything worked out of the box on my other computer
[01:25] <ashyg> so i figured it'd work well on this one
[01:25] <mitrovarr> personally, when I was choosing linux distros I took one look at the gentoo install procedure and ran like hell
[01:25] <ashyg> and it's been hell
[01:25] <gnomefreak> im thinking it installed locales in wrong place
[01:26] <ashyg> _jason2: amd64 3800 proc, asrock 939 dual sata motherboard, nvidia 6600gt
[01:26] <sklav> mitrovarr, i installed gentoo cause i was bored
[01:26] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  that's probably your hardware, not your distro
[01:26] <student> why does this command not work?  sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:26] <sklav> now i dont want to delete it cause of all the time and work i put in
[01:26] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: i just tried to open nautilus and it loaded a bar in the panel but then disapeared
[01:26] <sorush20> guys I'm using linux ubuntu I upgraded to dapper via repositories change then i keept getting errors .. I have wirless home broadband..duing dhclient3 runnging I keep getting permission denied messages
[01:26] <Psi-Jack> sklav: Next issue. It just crashed my system, just simply looking at OpenGL screensavers...
[01:26] <gnomefreak> student, cause you didnt install vi
[01:26] <mwe> sklav: you have to be to bother the endless installation
[01:26] <soundray> gnomefreak, :)
[01:26] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  I mean didn't you have to use ndiswrapper and twinview to get things working on gentoo?  or did they just work?
[01:26] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, you have issues and im really not sure what it is
[01:26] <_jason2> student, what error do you get
[01:26] <fluffyashes> wow
[01:27] <gnomefreak> vim comes on default install of ubuntu
[01:27] <sklav> Psi-Jack, word of advice not all screensavers are created equal
[01:27] <ashyg> mitrovarr: i didn't use wireless in gentoo because the kernel was updated enough to support my ethernet
[01:27] <ashyg> my wired ethernet, that is
[01:27] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: trying to run nautilus from terminal i get  /usr/bin/nautilus: /usr/bin/nautilus: cannot execute binary file
[01:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> soundray: Dapper is still unstable.
[01:27] <_jason2> gnomefreak, I think it sets up 'vi' to open vim as well.  At least mine did
[01:27] <ashyg> whereas breezy is using a way outdated kernel that doesn't have support for it
[01:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sorush20: Dapper is still unstable.
[01:27] <gnomefreak> student, replace vi with vim and see it open
[01:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sorry soundray - wrong autocomplete o_O
[01:27] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  ahh.  I'm really surprised it doesn't work in ubuntu, to be honest; a non-working ethernet card just boggles my mind.
[01:27] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: i'm gonna have to reinstall aren't i.  *sigh* this will be like the 3rd time
[01:27] <Psi-Jack> sklav: Well, I was actually looking at the same screensaver, different "modes" it had, when it crashed.
[01:27] <soundray> PuMpErNiCkLe, I only found that switch yesterday :)
[01:27] <sorush20> any way I can down grade?#
[01:27] <gnomefreak> _jasoni couldnt get vi to open it either i had to use vim
[01:28] <student> _jason2:  just simply nothing happens at all.  I'm logged on as a user with no admin rights.  I have done a "su administrator" to get to my admin enabled account.  then I type sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list and nothing happens.
[01:28] <mwe> isn't vi just an inderict link to vim, usually?
[01:28] <sklav> mwe ashyg find a packager that adds the latest and greatest kernel and install it
[01:28] <_jason2> gnomefreak, oh ok, must have been something I installed
[01:28] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  I can't upgrade my kernel because I have a module that requres .9
[01:28] <sorush20> I suppose I should use the dc as a repository right
[01:28] <sklav> im sure it possible
[01:28] <Psi-Jack> Solar Winds' screensaver. In fact. :)
[01:28] <mitrovarr> sklav:  He doesn't have internet access right now
[01:28] <gnomefreak> fluffyashes, im going to say yes but unless someone else knows in here :(
[01:28] <_jason2> student, how about if you use vim?
[01:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sorush20: 'dc'?
[01:28] <sklav> on 1 computer he does
[01:28] <fluffyashes> gnomefreak: it's ok thanks for your help i'm off to reinstall!
[01:28] <ashyg> mitrovarr: not completely true, i can download and copy stuff to it
[01:28] <student> _jason2: no that doesn't work.  neither does gedit.
[01:28] <ashyg> mitrovarr: but i can't use apt-get
[01:28] <ashyg> mitrovarr: i can download .debs though
[01:28] <Mabus06> can someone engage in a msg chat with me in order to aid me in installing ubuntu on a computer that is really giving me troubles?
[01:28] <_jason2> student, paste what 'groups' returns
[01:28] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  well, you could d/l files but not install them, then copy them over
[01:29] <gnomefreak> ah hah
[01:29] <sorush20> PuMpErNiCkLe: what?
[01:29] <mwe> gnomefreak: I think you can use update-alternatives if you miss the vi symlinks
[01:29] <ashyg> mitrovarr: which files would i need
[01:29] <student> administrator adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner
[01:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sorush20: 'dc' = ?
[01:29] <student> _jason2: ^
[01:29] <gnomefreak> mwe i think  you can also
[01:29] <_jason2> student, administrator is not a member of the 'admin' group.  So he doesn't have sudo privileges.  What was the first user you created (during install)?
[01:30] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  I don't know, to be honest.  I haven't downloaded a new kernel for my machines.
[01:30] <student> _jason2: yes he is.  I added him to the admin group just a moment ago and clicked OK.  then I went back into users and groups and verified that he was a member of admin group.
[01:30] <sorush20> PuMpErNiCkLe: what ? I need to be able to fix the computer.. I'm having problems starting adept
[01:30] <gnomefreak> permission error would have came up
[01:30] <student> _jason2: first user I created was "student".
[01:30] <mwe> gnomefreak: they were created by default on my system though :|
[01:30] <gnomefreak> student, what are the errors you are seeing
[01:30] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  did you give up on the wireless thing?  I think we could get it working
[01:30] <gnomefreak> damn lucky :)
[01:30] <ashyg> mitrovarr: no i didn't give up
[01:31] <student> _jason2:  "student" was first account created during installation.  I logged on, created administrator account and added him to "admin" group.  then I saved that change.  then I went back in and took "student" out of the admin group.
[01:31] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  are you still stuck at the part where ndiswrapper -m says there's a module already?
[01:31] <student> gnomefreak:  users and groups has a bug I think.
[01:31] <ashyg> mitrovarr: apparently ndiswrapper doesn't work on amd64 however
[01:31] <choudesh> hello all
[01:31] <ashyg> mitrovarr: so i need to recompile my own version so i am working on that
[01:31] <choudesh> small problem
[01:31] <gnomefreak> student, in breezy?
[01:31] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  oh, crap, I didn't realize you were using amd64
[01:31] <student> gnomefreak: I specifically added administrator to the admin group
[01:31] <_jason2> student, he isn't a member according to 'groups'
[01:31] <trinidad> what is a good app for partitioning after ubuntu is installed?
[01:31] <titanium_> i moved and i just set up my computers. i can ping and connect using ssh and ftp to my headless ubuntu box, but FTP and SSH are both VERY slow. i'm connecting internally, inside my router. any ideas?
[01:31] <student> gnomefreak: yes breezy.
[01:31] <cafuego> ashyg: Works fine if you have win64 drivers.
[01:31] <choudesh> I am using NIS and I have the following problem: whoami: cannot find username for UID 507
[01:31] <mwe> ashyg: like a lot of other stuff
[01:31] <soundray> ashyg, I hear it does if you can find a 64bit Windows driver.
[01:31] <gnomefreak> student, that would be a first i heard of it but it is possible
[01:31] <student> _jason2:  I added administrator to the admin group and saved the change and went back and verified that it was done.
[01:31] <student> now I have to reinstall AGAIN
[01:32] <timfrost> student, log out then back in to administrator.  groups will not update until you log *back* in
[01:32] <Mabus06> can someone engage in a msg chat with me in order to aid me in installing ubuntu on a computer that is really giving me troubles?
[01:32] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  *nothing* seems to work on 64 bit OSs as of yet.  I'd really try to use the 32 bit version unless you have a really compelling reason to use the 64 bit ones.
[01:32] <ashyg> where do i get win 64 drivers? i didn't even know there was a 64 bit windows
[01:32] <student> because of this funny ubuntu sudo-user stuff!!!! it's so frustrating
[01:32] <student> timfrost: really?
[01:32] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  Check the manufacturer's website
[01:32] <student> okay I'll try
[01:32] <_jason2> student, maybe you need to su to administrator again.  exit and su again
[01:32] <mwe> student: you don't have to reinstall to fix sudo
[01:32] <ashyg> oh, really mitrovarr? i thought i needed to use the 64 bit version because i had a 64 bit proc
[01:32] <sorush20> If I could only gain internet access via dhclient3 I would be great .. iwconfig does show accesspoint but I can't ping the router any help
[01:32] <sklav> ashyg, there is a windows XP 64bit version out
[01:32] <soundray> mitrovarr, I have that compelling reason, and it makes it worth the little sacrifices.
[01:32] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  are you using the 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[01:32] <gnomefreak> student, fixing admin listening to mwe's instructions is easy ty mwe :)
[01:32] <sklav> so im assuming there are drivers also
[01:32] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:32] <ashyg> mitrovarr: yes
[01:33] <sorush20> dhclient3 gives me permission denied
[01:33] <trinidad> what is a good app for partitioning after ubuntu is installed?
[01:33] <gnomefreak> gparted
[01:33] <soundray> trinidad, gparted
[01:33] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  what processor do you have?  I think 32 bit versions work fine on the modern 64 bit amds and intels but if you have itanium that may be different.
[01:33] <gnomefreak> brb again need smoke
[01:33] <ashyg> mitrovarr: i will go get the regular version though if you think it will be much less of a headache for me
[01:33] <ashyg> i have an amd64 northwood k8
[01:33] <mwe> gnomefreak: ?
[01:33] <trinidad> thank you
[01:33] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  I don't know for sure.  Does anyone else know?
[01:33] <Delvien> tifrost you know alot about vaere??
[01:33] <student> nope I got screwed
[01:33] <student> now nobody is a member of admin group
[01:33] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  I've just heard a lot about 64 bit OS support being buggy all across the board
[01:34] <student> even though I specifically added a new user with admin rights.
[01:34] <bain> alo
[01:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mitrovarr: Probably.
[01:34] <_jason2> student, we can fix it, don't worry.  How did you add him exactly?  using groups settings in administration?
[01:34] <mwe> student: edit your grub boot line
[01:34] <sklav> student, i think 64bit is most stable on linux at the moment
[01:34] <bain> sklav: ok .. syslog shows TX resets ... replaced network card .. and same problem ...
[01:34] <timfrost> Delvien, I have been running VMware for several years  for the 1 Windows app I needed.
[01:34] <mwe> student: at the prompt hilight the entry you normalle boot and press e
[01:34] <Mabus06> can someone please help me with errors I'm getting when installing ubuntu on a dell?
[01:34] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  what usb model was that again?
[01:34] <Delvien> timfrost hehe
[01:35] <bain> sklav: but It hink this machine is flakey ..
[01:35] <mwe> student: then hilight the kernel line (usually the second one)
[01:35] <Delvien> timfrost i cant seem to get my new mp3 player to be detected in Vmware.
[01:35] <sklav> hum
[01:35] <sklav> bain all is possible
[01:35] <mwe> student: then add init=/bin/sh
[01:35] <bain> sklav: yeah .. I know ..
[01:35] <student> mwe: I tried that before.  press e, then go to kernel line and press e, and then type space and then init=/bash/sh and then press b, right?
[01:35] <Delvien> timfrost it will mount in linux fine. but no such luck in vmware
[01:35] <mwe> student: that will boot you into root
[01:35] <sklav> but ifconfig eth0 does it show the card in state where it has no ip?
[01:35] <soundray> Good night friends, see you later.
[01:35] <bain> sklav: yeah .. it did
[01:35] <student> mwe: that didn't work before.  when I got to root, I couldn't use vi or any editor at all to modify the /etc/groups file
[01:35] <mwe> student: wrong
[01:35] <ashyg> mitrovarr: d-link dwl-g122
[01:35] <mwe> student: /bin/sh
[01:35] <mitrovarr> ashyg:  A 64 bit amd like that should be able to run 32 bit OSs without any problems, except maybe a slight loss in speed.  But you'll lose things like NX support and stuff.
[01:35] <mwe> student: not /bash/sh
[01:36] <student> mwe: yea /bin/sh
[01:36] <ashyg> NX?
[01:36] <titanium2> where are DNS servers defined in ubuntu?
[01:36] <mwe> student: and I'd add to the end
[01:36] <student> mwe: I was going from memory....I did this before
[01:36] <ashyg> okay i am downloading the 32 bit version
[01:36] <mwe> student: but that's just me
[01:36] <_jason2> student, just use a livecd, it will be simpler imo
[01:36] <mwe> student: it works
[01:36] <sklav> titanium2, /etc/resolv.conf
[01:36] <student> _jason2: don't have livecd
[01:36] <trinidad> gparted, thanks again
[01:36] <mwe> _jason2: no
[01:36] <gnomefreak> back yw
[01:36] <timfrost> Delvien, I can't assist with that.  I don't play MP3s at all
[01:36] <mwe> _jason2: and yes
[01:36] <_jason2> mwe, lol
[01:37] <gnomefreak> !mp3
[01:37] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:37] <sklav> Delvien, you need libmad from the universe repos
[01:37] <Delvien> timfrost well i just wanted my USB to mount in Vmware.
[01:37] <student> mwe: what is the command again that I type once at root prompt? something administrator admin
[01:37] <Delvien> sklav whats libmad do?
[01:37] <mwe> _jason2: he has to manually mount the ubuntu partition and edit /etc/group by hand carefully to do that
[01:37] <_jason2> student, adduser
[01:37] <sklav> Delvien, it adds mp3 support
[01:37] <_jason2> mwe, you were right with the 'no and yes' :P
[01:37] <Delvien> sklav umm
[01:37] <student> btw I swear there is a bug in adding a new user to the admin group and removing existing one from admin group.  it's happened to me three times like this so far.
[01:37] <sklav> look at the howto unsupported formats
[01:37] <bain> sklav: don't stress about it ... I'm going to bed .. it's 2 in the morning already ..
[01:37] <mwe> student: /usr/sbin/vigr
[01:37] <bain> thanks for the help sklav and mwe
[01:37] <gnomefreak> Delvien, read the link ubotu posted it will give you all the deps for mp3 playing
[01:37] <mwe> student: if it doesn't work
[01:38] <sklav> later bain
[01:38] <bain> nite
[01:38] <Delvien> sklav no no i have mp3 support. i just want to mount my HDD based MP3 player inside of Vmware , but its not recognizing it
[01:38] <student> mwe: /usr/sbin/vigr and that's it?
[01:38] <sklav> ah i see
[01:38] <Mabus06> My ubuntu installation fails during "installing the base system" can anyone help please?
[01:38] <ashyg> does anyone know what ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso is?
[01:38] <sklav> for that im a zero
[01:38] <mwe> student: /bin/nano /etc/group and edit it _carefully_
[01:38] <ashyg> i have it on my hard disk
[01:38] <Delvien> gnomefreak hehe i didnt ask him how to get mp3 playback, i already have that :P
[01:38] <crimsun_> ashyg: it's the preview release of Breezy.
[01:38] <sklav> usb devices are usually automounted
[01:38] <Delvien> gnomefreak my question was about VMWARE
[01:38] <mwe> student: yeah. it should bring up the group file
[01:38] <ramblingturtle> i am still searching for a way to mount my new mp3 player customer support said I have to use windows for this device i told them there is no way I am going back to windows I am using a hp iriver T30 if anyone has any ideas
[01:38] <gnomefreak> sorry thats all i say was mp3 :( Delvien
[01:38] <_jason2> mwe, so he can't just adduser with root?
[01:38] <navarone> mwe> what is vigr btw?
[01:38] <mwe> student: then edit the admin line to contain your user
[01:38] <Delvien> gnomfreak its ok :P
[01:38] <ashyg> crimsun_: is it the same as the real release or should i download the real one?
[01:39] <ramblingturtle> I cant seem to figure out where the device is so that way i can mount it
[01:39] <mwe> _jason2: why'd he do that?
[01:39] <sprizz> okay, im a total noob, but "sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5" isn't working
[01:39] <gnomefreak> vmware is evil i hear its hard to get right but i never used it
[01:39] <foresight> I downloaded some themes for Gnome via the synaptic package thingy...but where the heck did they install too ? :p
[01:39] <mwe> _jason2: he already has a user
[01:39] <ramblingturtle> and dmseg is not working for me
[01:39] <crimsun_> ashyg: it's /not/ the final release, however you can install the preview and dist-upgrade to the final
[01:39] <gnomefreak> sprizz, you cant install java that way
[01:39] <ashyg> crimsun_: because our school internet is horribly slow and i want to cut down on my downloading :)
[01:39] <_jason2> mwe, adduser administrator admin, adds him to the admin group
[01:39] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sprizz about java
[01:39] <student> mwe: brb
[01:39] <Mabus06> My ubuntu installation fails during "installing the base system" can anyone help please?
[01:39] <mwe> navarone: vigr opens /etc/group with $EDITOR and makes sure it's sane before letting you save
[01:39] <Delvien> mabus06 what release ?
[01:39] <mitrovarr> ramblingturtle:  this might help http://lonelymachines.org/iriver.html
[01:40] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, with what error?
[01:40] <Mabus06> breezy, Delvien
[01:40] <mwe> _jason2: wrong
[01:40] <Delvien> mabus06 md5 checksum ok?
[01:40] <Mabus06> gnomefreak, hold on, I'll replicate it (the target computer is beside me)
[01:40] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, is it debootstrapping?
[01:40] <mwe> _jason2: he'd need gpasswd -a administrator admin
[01:40] <Mabus06> Delvien, I installed ubuntu on this computer I'm talking to you on with that cd yesterday.
[01:40] <Mabus06> gnomefreak, pardon?
[01:40] <mitrovarr> ramblingturtle:  It might not be the same version but assuming it uses USB mass storage device protocol some of that might still be valid.
[01:40] <mwe> _jason2: also he needs to type the full path at that prompt
[01:40] <Delvien> mabus06 gnomefreak will be able to help you then
[01:40] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, is it a debootstrapping error?
[01:41] <mwe> _jason2: or source /etc/profile
[01:41] <ramblingturtle> mitrovarr: thank you
[01:41] <Mabus06> gnomefreak, I don't know, I'm trying to install it again. The message should pop up in a moment.
[01:41] <Mabus06> Can I msg you?
[01:41] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, yeah when you get the error
[01:41] <navarone> mabus breezy or dapper?
[01:41] <gnomefreak> breezy navarone
[01:41] <Mabus06> Breezy.
[01:42] <flodine> can someone tell me how to get rxvt transparent
[01:42] <gnomefreak> i have a feeling he either has bad iso or he burned it too fast :)
[01:42] <Mabus06> This install it's attempting right now is just the server though, I wanted to try and see if that would work. But I'll probably get the same error.
[01:42] <crimsun_> flodine: man rxvt . With rxvt-unicode, it's -tr
[01:42] <foresight> I downloaded some themes for Gnome via the synaptic package thingy...but where the heck did they install too ? :p
[01:42] <navarone> just checking...sometimes we go on forever and then realize another version...lol
[01:42] <mitrovarr> ramblingturtle:  If that doesn't work this talks about the T30 specifically http://bys.cauterized.net/?p=177
[01:42] <Mabus06> foresight, things don't install like they do on windows.
[01:42] <gnomefreak> navarone, yeah i know and i had an issue with install on dapper that wasnt the cd or the iso :(
[01:43] <Delvien> timfrost have any experience with having USB drives mount inside VMware
[01:43] <foresight> Mabus06, I just need to find out where the files went... :p
[01:43] <Mabus06> navarone, fair enough, it's always best to give the easiest answer first. l-)
[01:43] <timfrost> Delvien, no.  No USB hardware at all
[01:43] <gnomefreak> foresight, locate <packagename>
[01:43] <Mabus06> foresight, look at the name of the thing you installed. Use 'search for files'.
[01:43] <navarone> answers depend on the right question tho mabus...<s>
[01:44] <Mabus06> navarone, I've had my fair share of ubuntu problems but never this early in the installation, so I'm sort of over my head.
[01:44] <navarone> how many poters you have mabus?
[01:44] <navarone> puters*
[01:44] <Mabus06> In the house right now, 3.
[01:45] <gnomefreak> i miss my other ones :(
[01:45] <Mabus06> Okay here's the error, gnomefreak.
[01:45] <gnomefreak> k
[01:45] <Mabus06> An error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system.
[01:45] <Mabus06> Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for the details.
[01:45] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, do you still have the iso?
[01:45] <Mabus06> gnomefreak, on computer #3, yes
[01:46] <gnomefreak> go to where you downloaded it and match the md5 number sup
[01:46] <flodine> crimsun_ how do i put it in xdefaults to stay trans
[01:46] <navarone> Mabus and you've install via this particualr cd before?
[01:46] <Mabus06> navarone, yes I installed with this CD yesterday I am quite sure.
[01:46] <Mabus06> On the computer I'm talking to you guys with right now.
[01:46] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, that same cd?
[01:46] <Mabus06> I think?
[01:47] <Mabus06> I'll check anyway I suppose... how?
[01:47] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, i would make sure the md5 checks out ok
[01:47] <crimsun_> flodine: you'd use the property for it in ~/.Xresources
[01:47] <Mabus06> gnomefreak, how?
[01:47] <ramblingturtle> i think i need to find another channel my problem is not with ubuntu but instead it is with the iriver thanks everybody for your help
[01:47] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, linux on the pc with iso?
[01:47] <Mabus06> gnomefreak, no
[01:47] <gnomefreak> win?
[01:47] <Mabus06> yeah
[01:48] <gnomefreak> yuck :(
[01:48] <student> mwe: "/usr/sbin/vigr" gets this error "vigr: Couldn't lock file: Read-only  file system vigr: /etc/group is unchanged.  And "/bin/nano /etc/group" get this error "Error writing /etc/group Read-only file system".
[01:48] <Mabus06> Not my computer.
[01:48] <student> mwe: same errors as last time I tried to fix this ubuntu bug.
[01:48] <gnomefreak> you need to get a md5 checker :( i dont remember where :(
[01:48] <Mabus06> I am quite sure the iso is fine.
[01:48] <Mabus06> If it isn't the same cd it is a cd made from the  same image.
[01:49] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, bootstrap errors are normally caused by 1 of 2 things bad iso or bad burn
[01:49] <navarone> student maybe read write permissions for fielsystem is out of whack?
[01:49] <Mabus06> gnomefreak, okay, well I will be back as MabusXP on the other computer in a minute.
[01:49] <student> navarone: I'm booting from init=/bin/sh mode
[01:49] <gnomefreak> ok Mabus06  i might be here
[01:50] <timfrost> gnomefreak, Mabus06, it would be possible to transfer the ISO to the working linuix PC, then use md5sum on ISO and /dev/cdrom
[01:50] <shingoki> what happened to squeak-image ?
[01:50] <james^> guys
[01:50] <james^> how to install *.rpm on my woody
[01:50] <_jason2> gnomefreak, it is a sign
[01:50] <gnomefreak> thinking saying screw it and going with another linuc distro
[01:51] <_jason2> james^, what are you trying to install
[01:51] <sklav> james^,  look into alien
[01:51] <gnomefreak> lol _jasoni think you are right
[01:51] <navarone> sp2?
[01:51] <james^> php-eaccelerator-5.0.4_0.9.3-4.fc4.src.rpm
[01:51] <james^> taht
[01:51] <james^> i'm must intall alien first ?
[01:51] <_jason2> james^, what do you mean when you say woody?
[01:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> woody is a Debian release... o_O
[01:52] <_jason2> yeah
[01:52] <gnomefreak> he said FC4
[01:52] <james^> yeah
[01:52] <gnomefreak> #fedora
[01:52] <_jason2> james^, you know this is #ubuntu though, right?
[01:53] <sklav> james^, just do a rpm -ivh pakagename.rpm
[01:53] <sklav> and you should join #fedora
[01:53] <sklav> they might be of more assistance
[01:53] <james^> and how to use alien with php-eaccelerator-5.0.4_0.9.3-4.fc4.src.rpm ?
[01:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !alien
[01:53] <sklav> james^, src.rpm?
[01:53] <ubotu> somebody said alien was a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[01:53] <student> screw it I'm reinstalling again
[01:53] <myriad> i am getting ready to install ubuntu...   i have the cd burned, do i just set to boot from the cd in bios?
[01:53] <gnomefreak> james^, this is not FC channel
[01:54] <sklav> james^, you cannot install asrc.rpm
[01:54] <_jason2> student, just use the livecd...
[01:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> myriad: yeah
[01:54] <james^> woot
[01:54] <student> _jason2: I don't have one
[01:54] <sklav> you need to rpmbuild --rebuild php-eaccelerator-5.0.4_0.9.3-4.fc4.src.rpm
[01:54] <james^> can't ?
[01:54] <_jason2> student, you can't burn a temp one on a cd-rw?
[01:54] <sklav> james^, its not even compiled
[01:54] <sklav> im not sure what alien will do for you
[01:54] <myriad> ok, also...   i need to turn some free space on an NTFS partition into a new partition...  will the ubuntu installation allow me to do that?
[01:54] <james^> to install it
[01:55] <student> _jason2: I'm at the school now, I'd have to go home.  plus I don't have a spare cd-rw and don't want to go to the store and buy one cause I'm poor and it's probably not even open right now anyway
[01:55] <gnomefreak> !alien
[01:55] <ubotu> somebody said alien was a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[01:55] <james^> i'm get from that site
[01:55] <navarone> myriad yes...but make sure you defrag windows first to be safe
[01:55] <_jason2> student, okay understandable
[01:55] <myriad> defrag that partition?
[01:55] <james^> http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/2316322/com/php-eaccelerator-5.0.4_0.9.3-4.fc4.i386.rpm.html
[01:55] <james^> take to my box with woody
[01:55] <james^> and wanna install it
[01:55] <gnomefreak> james are you on ubuntu or woody?
[01:55] <james^> i can't build my self so i get rpm one
[01:55] <navarone> defrag the windows partition so that when you resize no windows data is left straggling on the new linux partition
[01:55] <sklav> james^, have you checked for a .deb?
[01:55] <james^> woody
[01:56] <_jason2> student, I don't think you are supposed to but you did try using sudo on vigr right?
[01:56] <james^> there is no .deb packaget
[01:56] <james^> woody chn empty
[01:56] <student> I JUST REPRODUCED THE BUG ON ANOTHER FRESH INSTALL
[01:56] <gnomefreak> #debian  is the channel that might beable to help more
[01:56] <myriad> ok thank you
[01:56] <sklav> then use the rpm not the src.rpm
[01:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> james^: join #debian
[01:56] <sklav> and use alien to convert it
[01:56] <student> this is a bug
[01:56] <student> arghhh!!!!
[01:56] <navarone> student then report it
[01:56] <_jason2> student, okay report it to bugzilla
[01:56] <shingoki> Anyone know why there is no squeak image package?
[01:56] <james^> thanks
[01:56] <sklav> student, is you video card an ati?
[01:57] <MabusXP> gnomefreak, back
[01:57] <ramblingturtle> ok now i am getting unknown id mount message when trying to mount a device does this mean it cant be mount
[01:57] <gnomefreak> wb im almost gone too :(
[01:58] <student> 1) fresh install, create user student 2) add new user administrator with admin rights 3) log on as administrator 4) open users/groups again and remove admin rights for original student user 4) log off administrator and log on as student 5) bam.  administrator suddenly is not a member of admin group!
[01:58] <_jason2> student, actually a quick search found it was already reported.  here is one: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21765
[01:58] <ramblingturtle> it is really unkown id: mount
[01:58] <liquidboy> anyone have experience with windowmaker?
[01:58] <ramblingturtle> what does this mean i wonder
[01:59] <sklav> student, why not create the administartor first and add student when the install completes?
[01:59] <student> _jason2: oh it's because I chose the name "administrator"??? If I had chosen "schmoo" it would have worked?
[01:59] <hawking> I have installed pan what should i write in the news server?
[01:59] <student> sklav: yea I thought of that afterwards....but these system will be used mostly by students so that's why I did it first like that?
[01:59] <_jason2> student, no, I don't think taht's what I read but I'll check
[01:59] <sklav> ramblingturtle, specify the filesystem type example mount -t ext3 /dev/device /mnt
[01:59] <Esuirin> hi
[01:59] <Esuirin> can someone tell me what command ubuntu executes for fn sleep
[01:59] <Esuirin> f2 i think it is?
[01:59] <navarone> shingoki squeak image maybe available in another repo like multiverse...I will search
[02:00] <MabusXP2> So how do I verify that my ISO is fine?
[02:00] <shingoki> I had a look but I can't find it
[02:00] <sklav> use the md5sum
[02:00] <gnomefreak> if in windows you need to look for a tool unless someone can tell you how to transfer it to linux box
[02:00] <liquidboy> to compile appications (eg docapps from docapps.org) i just have to install gcc and follow the instructions given eh?
[02:00] <hawking> can someone recommend me a free usenet server please?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> sklav, hes on win he cant run that
[02:00] <Esuirin> what command does ubuntu execute when you do fn-f4?
[02:00] <sklav> sorry
[02:01] <navarone> hmmm...shingoki there is squeak-sources and squeak-vm   no idea if they are what you are looking for
[02:01] <gnomefreak> no dont be
[02:01] <sklav> there are tools for windows
[02:01] <gnomefreak> i know i cant remember names of them tho :(
[02:01] <sklav> and if your using nero i think it has some feature for it
[02:01] <wckdkl0wn> how would i install this file?? install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz
[02:01] <simak> Esuirin, you might run gconf-editor
[02:01] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell wckdkl0wn about tar.gz
[02:01] <wckdkl0wn> arg
[02:01] <wckdkl0wn> and yet again
[02:01] <MabusXP3> So how do I find out if my ISO for installing ubuntu is fine?
[02:01] <timfrost> !flash
[02:01] <ubotu> rumour has it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:02] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell wckdkl0wn about compile
[02:02] <sklav> wckdkl0wn, enable the universe and multiver and then run apt-get update and then apt-get flash-nonfree
[02:02] <veriz> do anyone know how i can write into /etc/motd with colors?
[02:02] <navarone> hawking  google Freebin
[02:02] <shingoki> navarone, they are two parts of squeak, the other part is squeak image :)
[02:02] <wckdkl0wn> sklav, ty atleast u gave me a straight answer
[02:02] <Esuirin> simak, uhhh
[02:02] <Esuirin> this isn't a gtk function
[02:02] <Esuirin> it does some kind of system sleep
[02:02] <navarone> shingoki...maybe the squeak-sources is what you need and then have to compile?
[02:03] <simak> Esuirin, it's a way of tinkering with gnome.  It has a key-map thing in it.
[02:03] <gnomefreak> <<could have sat here and told him what to do to compile it but wed be offtopic and here all night :(
[02:03] <sklav> ! ubotu tell wckdkl0wn about universe
[02:03] <ubotu> I don't know, sklav
[02:03] <Esuirin> i know what it is, but this particular function issues suspend to ram or something?
[02:03] <sklav> !universe
[02:03] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:03] <simak> Esuirin, I just started using it but it should tell you what that key was supposed to be.
[02:03] <shingoki> navarone, well the squeak packages mention squaek-image, but it isn't there
[02:03] <sklav> wckdkl0wn, follwo the instruction there to get it up and running
[02:03] <Esuirin> simak, fn-fnx is acpi stuff
[02:04] <wckdkl0wn> sklav, see this is why i hate it when ppl try to redirect u to other shit before knowing whats going on... i already have the repositories set
[02:04] <dooglus> can I put a border between the cells in a Gtk::Table?
[02:04] <sklav> wckdkl0wn, if you set them up in /etc/apt/sources.lst for some reason it does not work
[02:04] <dooglus> uh - wrong channel :)
[02:04] <simak> Esuirin, now I've learned something.  oops.
[02:04] <sklav> im refering you there to use the graphical approach which works
[02:04] <MabusXP3> gnomefreak, navarone, I'm runnning a md5 checker now.
[02:04] <navarone> shingoki I found this site with list of dl sites for various distros/os's...but I cannot find a ubuntu squeak image...take a look and maybe a standard debian would suffice http://linux.maruhn.com/sec/squeak.html
[02:05] <gnomefreak> ok way too many mabus' in here :(
[02:05] <sprizz> having trouble with jre firefox plugin
[02:05] <sprizz> i created a symlink
[02:05] <sprizz> still no go?
[02:06] <wckdkl0wn> sklav, sry i got u confused with the other guy my bad
[02:06] <navarone> yeah four mabus's is disconcerting
[02:06] <sklav> its ok
[02:06] <wckdkl0wn> sklav, but its flashplugin-nonfree
[02:06] <demonstar> anyone want to help me with networking?
[02:06] <shingoki> navarone, yup I saw that but I hate using random packages :( thanks though
[02:06] <gnomefreak> sprizz, sudo update-alternatives --config java     and choose what version you want to use than run java -version to make sure
[02:06] <sklav> wckdkl0wn, most likely i was going from memory
[02:06] <nomin> is there a way to skip the login at the beginning?  I want ubuntu to automatically login at startup.
[02:06] <navarone> shingoki yeah would not recommend it either
[02:07] <sklav> since i had the same issue a while back with my repos for some odd reason
[02:07] <sprizz> gnomefreak: k, i'll give it a try
[02:07] <shingoki> navarone, ah well thanks anyway :)
[02:08] <sklav> wckdkl0wn, its cool but keep in mind there are hundred of people asking qurestions and most of the time the referals offer graphical step threws
[02:08] <sklav> which are more helpfull than me saying for example open synaptic click on prefs and so on
[02:08] <Mabus07> >.< the wireless net for this comp is giving me troubles
[02:08] <gnomefreak> wckdkl0wn, i gave you those links because you came in asking how to install a tar.gz
[02:08] <Mabus07> gnomefreak, navarone, I am burning a new cd with the verified MD5 iso
[02:09] <sklav> Mabus07, burn it at 12x max
[02:09] <gnomefreak> Mabus07, at 8 if you can :)
[02:09] <sklav> i have noticed issues with some drives at faster speeds
[02:09] <sprizz> gnomefreak: now what, i checked the version...
[02:09] <gnomefreak> and is it the version you want ubuntu to use?
[02:09] <Mabus07> breezy yeah
[02:10] <Mabus07> and I'm using 8
[02:10] <sprizz> i dont know
[02:10] <Mabus07> the minimum allowed
[02:10] <gnomefreak> sprizz, what java did you install?
[02:10] <sklav> ok i need to get off the pc hell i support 400+ users all day i need a break
[02:10] <sprizz> lemme check
[02:10] <sklav> last i checked i have a wife ;)
[02:10] <sprizz> i think 1.5
[02:10] <sklav> hehe
[02:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lol sklav
[02:10] <gnomefreak> sprizz, when you run java -version   what does it say its using?
[02:10] <sprizz> 1.0.4
[02:11] <sklav> later all
[02:11] <sprizz> no
[02:11] <sprizz> 1.4
[02:11] <sklav> later PuMpErNiCkLe
[02:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> peace out sklav
[02:11] <sprizz> 1.4.2
[02:11] <sklav> later Seveas  gnomefreak
[02:11] <gnomefreak> ok sprizz type sudo update-alternatives --config java
[02:11] <Mabus07> make up your mind, sprizz
[02:11] <Mabus07> lol
[02:11] <atbt> whatever that ipod-ulator is that comes with ubuntu is, doesn't seem to work with my ipod shuffle =\
[02:11] <gnomefreak> later sklav
[02:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> brb, ice cream
[02:11] <gnomefreak> sprizz, after that command do you see 1.5 in that list anywhere?
[02:12] <navarone> shingoki try this if you haven't already http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/3616 <-- there is another link on page that takes you tyo another page with more dl's if you need
[02:12] <sprizz> nope
[02:12] <gnomefreak> sprizz, if installed it should be the 3rd choice
[02:12] <atbt> can anyone help me with using my ipod shuffle with ubuntu?
[02:12] <jeff342> hi guys
[02:12] <jeff342> im getting 100% packet loss with my wlan
[02:12] <sprizz> nope, no third........i installed it
[02:12] <gnomefreak> sprizz, either its not install properly of fully
[02:13] <Mabus08> Sorry, admins, for the excessive ammount of my clones in here, I keep disconnecting and the clones stay.
[02:13] <sprizz> dang it, i just cmod +x the binary, then ran it, shouldn't that install it
[02:13] <Mabus08> I assume you mean 'chmod'
[02:13] <gnomefreak> sprizz, chmod isnt a run command
[02:14] <sprizz> I KNOW
[02:14] <gnomefreak> oh ok good
[02:14] <sprizz> i changed the binary to executable, then ran it
[02:14] <gnomefreak> sprizz, did you accept the agreement blah blah blah?
[02:14] <jeff342> no wlan gurus in here?
[02:14] <ElBarono> jeff: whats the problem?
[02:15] <sprizz> yess
[02:15] <timfrost> gnomefreak, if sprizz didn't use make-jpackage, then update-alternatives *won't* work
[02:15] <jeff342> EIBorono: im getting 100% packet loss on my kubuntu laptop
[02:15] <sprizz> hmm
[02:15] <gnomefreak> timfrost, isnt that compiling it from tar?
[02:16] <gnomefreak> from sun anyway
[02:16] <timfrost> gnomefreak, no.  make-japackage will process the .run file that sprizz has, creating a .deb
[02:16] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhh
[02:16] <jeff342> EIBorono: network manager says im connected to my home network
[02:16] <timfrost> !java
[02:16] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:17] <atbt> i need some ipod shuffle + ubuntu help
[02:17] <gnomefreak> timfrost, i gave him that a while ago :)
[02:17] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell atbt about ipod
[02:17] <kar> hey, anyone around
[02:17] <atbt> ah, thank you gnomefreak
[02:18] <gnomefreak> yw atbt
[02:18] <kar> alright .. i c activity :)
[02:18] <jeff342> EIBorono: anybody
[02:18] <gnomefreak> follow it and it will work :)
[02:18] <kar> I am admining a lab with a bunch of machines
[02:18] <kar> and was wondering if there are easier ways of admining multiple machines
[02:18] <kar> than going to each one and doing the same thing
[02:18] <gnomefreak> ok all im out see yaaaaaaaaaa
[02:18] <Mabus01> gnomefreak, navarone, the new cd is burned
[02:19] <kar> Im setting the machines up .. need to add about 50 users on each machine etc
[02:19] <kar> anybody have any ideas?
[02:19] <navarone> kar> all machines are set up for the same users?
[02:20] <kar> navarone: yes .. all machines need same setup
[02:20] <nekostar> is all the hardware the same?
[02:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> kar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directory_service
[02:20] <kar> nekostar: I think so
[02:20] <nekostar> navarone, couldnt he do a fully set up install in one and clone it to the rest?
[02:20] <nekostar> just untar the install?
[02:20] <kar> PuMpErNiCkLe: I know about NIS, but that seems like an overkill for eight machines .. am i wrong?
[02:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> kar: If it's all the same, then you can do what nekostart just beat to telling you about.
[02:20] <nekostar> [manually set up grub etc] 
[02:21] <nekostar> o:
[02:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> kar: Not once you've got them installed and running... it should save time.
[02:21] <Goldfisch> Does dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb work for cloning an entire disk drive?
[02:21] <sprizz> chmod +x *.bin
[02:21] <sprizz> msprauer@ubuntu:$ ls
[02:21] <sprizz> jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[02:21] <sprizz> msprauer@ubuntu:$
[02:21] <sprizz> msprauer@ubuntu:$
[02:21] <sprizz> msprauer@ubuntu:$
[02:21] <sprizz> msprauer@ubuntu:$ sudo apt-get install fakeroot java-package java-common
[02:21] <sprizz> Reading package lists... Done
[02:21] <sprizz> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:21] <sprizz> E: Couldn't find package java-package
[02:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Goldfisch: yeah, if they're the same size
[02:21] <sprizz> msprauer@ubuntu:$
[02:21] <nekostar> btw for yall ubuntu guru's : http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/pressrelease.php?id=1445 is happening in los angeles area and i would love to get a ubuntu rep to come
[02:21] <nekostar> sprizz,
[02:21] <timfrost> Goldfisch, only if theya are identical geometry
[02:21] <nekostar> dont spam here
[02:22] <nekostar> thats in #flood or:
[02:22] <nekostar> !paste
[02:22] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:22] <Goldfisch> !tell sprizz about pastebin
[02:22] <sprizz> EAT IT UBUNTU
[02:22] <nekostar> sprizz, also
[02:22] <nekostar> eh lmfao
[02:22] <nekostar> was just gonna tell him about universe etc
[02:24] <navarone> nekostar I was thinking that...but I think all machines would have to use same components...?
[02:24] <Nihil85> hi! i've forgotten how to enter in a specific folder using the shell... can anyone suggest me the right command? :P
[02:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Nihil85: cd /path/to/folder
[02:24] <nekostar> navarone, yeah he said that they should have the same hardware...
[02:24] <Nihil85> cd! like DOS...
[02:24] <Nihil85> thanks PuMpErNiCkLe!
[02:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Nihil85: np :)
[02:24] <Mabus06> navarone, I'm now installing on the target computer with the newly made disc from the verified breezy install i386 iso
[02:24] <Goldfisch> Nihil85: No DOS, like UNIX. :)
[02:24] <nekostar> Nihil85,  though
[02:24] <nekostar> cd .. to go upwards.. notice the space
[02:25] <Mabus06> navarone, should I do expert or server, or just stick with a regular install? To encounter less problems or find out what they are best.
[02:25] <Nihil85> Goldfisch, i remember that when i was young and i entered some commands in DOS, i used to type cd Programs/etc
[02:25] <Munchkinguy> I remember with Corel Linux, I could install it into a folder in my Windows partition and make a boot disk. Then I could run Linux without formatting my computer.
[02:25] <Munchkinguy> I realize that Ubuntu has Live CDs, but is there also an option for what I just described?
[02:25] <navarone> Mabus...if you anticipate problems do a server install first and then add gnome/kde or what have you later
[02:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Munchkinguy: only if you're using FAT32 instead of ntfs.
[02:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> linux has issues with ntfs
[02:26] <Munchkinguy> Thank you.
[02:26] <Mabus06> navarone, ok. If this doesn't work, are there any install options you can think of that may debug the problem?
[02:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Munchkinguy: And I don't know th...
[02:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dammit
[02:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> I wasn't done!
[02:27] <Mabus06> lol
[02:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> oh well
[02:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> He'll be back. :>
[02:27] <navarone> Mabus to be honest I have not personally had enough problems with ubuntu to offer any advice. I just needed the vidcard and mouse sorted when I installed
[02:28] <Mabus06> navarone, same with my first attempt at installation, it was a video issue. But I have not seen errors this early in the process before.
[02:28] <navarone> Mabus I would just fire it up and see if it works...no harm done if it goes belly up...except for some time wasted
[02:28] <Mabus06> navarone, tha'ts what I'm doing.
[02:29] <Mabus06> The other computer is next to me.
[02:29] <navarone> any probs yet?
[02:29] <Mabus06> No but I haven't gotten to the problematic stage yet anyway.
[02:29] <Mabus06> Okay installing the base system now... this is where it generally buggs up.
[02:30] <navarone> yes yes the problematic stage...like puberty but with less anxiety...:)
[02:30] <Mabus06> lol
[02:30] <Mabus06> looking good so far, not stalling at 6% like it did before
[02:30] <navarone> new cd?
[02:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> It'll stall at 13% ^_^
[02:31] <Mabus06> yes, navarone
[02:31] <Mabus06> verified the md5 before burning it.. burned it at 8x
[02:31] <navarone> I remmebr a Mandrake install stalling at about 40% everytime...some ramdisk prob...<sigh @ olden days>
[02:32] <Mabus06> Could it be borked hardware? Or would I not have gotten this far if say, the CPU didn't work?
[02:32] <navarone> Mabus I would think it was the cd personally
[02:32] <ozgurgerilla> how do I delete search engines in firefox?
[02:33] <Mabus06> Well the same computer had troubles installing windows (illegal copies, granted)
[02:33] <navarone> And I always burn at 8x...gnomebaker complains that hardware can't keep up with maximum speed if I try it...lol
[02:33] <Mabus06> nearing where it failed before...
[02:33] <Mabus06> let's cross our fingers
[02:34] <Mabus06> w00t into the 70's now, never got this far before
[02:34] <sepht> can anyone help me w/ my apache2 install?
[02:34] <Mabus06> Well once when I ignored the error and continued, but then I was getting all kinds of errors.
[02:35] <Amaranth> Mabus06: sounds like a bad disc or bad ram
[02:35] <Mabus06> Amaranth, this try is with a new disc.
[02:35] <Mabus06> Isn't there some sort of memtest thing to see if my ram works later?
[02:35] <sepht> Can ANYONE help me w/ my apache2 issue? or is the ubuntu community completely helpless when it's anything more then general ignorance
[02:35] <nbound> what packages do i need to download after i install totem-xine to gte movies playing properly??? ive just reinstalled and forgot i think ffmpeg is one
[02:35] <Mabus06> sepht, that's a bad way to ask for help
[02:36] <Mabus06> secondly, when I was having apache troubles I went to #apache
[02:36] <Mabus06> Seems logical huh?
[02:36] <Blacken> ...It's not wise to look a gift CD-giver in the mouth, but has anyone else had problems with shoddy Ubuntu media?
[02:36] <sepht> Mabus06: not an apache issue
[02:36] <navarone> ozgurgerilla, try going to Firefox in home folder and then Searchplugins folder...I think you can simply delete the .src file and the .gif for each search engine you want to get rid of
[02:36] <Blacken> My first install CD was corrupted, the second wouldn't even boot, and the third snapped on the bloody spindle.
[02:36] <navarone> ozgurgerilla, then restart firefox if needed
[02:37] <ozgurgerilla> ok, thanks
[02:37] <Mabus06> sepht, oooo, I hate that. When it's sort of an issue between two things... #ubuntu will tell you to see #apache, and vice versa.
[02:37] <nbound> what packages do i need to download after i install totem-xine to gte movies playing properly??? ive just reinstalled and forgot i think ffmpeg is one, anyone?
[02:37] <nbound> get*
[02:37] <Mabus06> What sort of movies nbound
[02:37] <nbound> just plain mpegs
[02:37] <sepht> Mabus06: no no
[02:38] <sepht> it's a ubuntu issue
[02:38] <nbound> i get picture but no sound :(
[02:38] <sepht> by the way it handles apache and php's installs
[02:38] <sepht> here
[02:38] <sepht> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116477
[02:38] <Mabus06> nbound, did you install everything on;
[02:38] <Mabus06> !restricted
[02:38] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:39] <Mabus06> navarone, this install seems to be working, the first stage is complete
[02:39] <nbound> i cant... im running x86_64
[02:39] <Mabus06> nbound, never used that, sorry
[02:39] <somerville32> Is there any god IDEs for Java in Linux that is small and light-weight
[02:39] <Mabus06> and sepht you seem to already know more about your problem than I do so I can't help ya.
[02:39] <nbound> i know theres just one package i need... coz i had movies running before :(
[02:39] <navarone> Mabus06,  "8x" <-- haste makes waste...  ;)
[02:40] <sepht> Mabus06: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116477 I tell you!
[02:41] <Blacken> Any other bad-CD experiences with Ubuntu installers? My first one was corrupt, the second just didn't boot, and the third broke...and now I'm stuck with half a system 'cause my DOS boot disk is half a town away.
[02:41] <Mabus06> navarone, but I was quite sure that was the cd I used to install ubuntu on this machine
[02:41] <LordMelkor> when i try to install a driver update for my intel grafx card (from dri.freedesktop.org) i get the error: Makefile:166: *** Cannot find a kernel config file.  Stop.
[02:41] <LordMelkor> can anyone help me out?
[02:42] <navarone> duende...how's she goin? <s>
[02:42] <duende> hi
[02:42] <navarone> <-- originally from nfld too
[02:43] <Mabus06> Sweet navarone.
[02:43] <Mabus06> I'm the first in my family born off the rock.
[02:43] <navarone> lol
[02:43] <navarone> Mabus...we are everywhere
[02:43] <Mabus06> navarone, so how hard is it to install gnome et al.?
[02:43] <duende> small world
[02:43] <student> hi
[02:44] <navarone> Mabus I think simply sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[02:44] <timfrost> LordMelkor, the config for the kernels is in /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[02:44] <_jason> Mabus06, ubuntu-desktop, not gnome-desktop
[02:44] <navarone> ahh...right...and kubunut-desktop for kde
[02:45] <student> hi
[02:45] <student> care to chat?
[02:45] <student> hello
[02:45] <student> hello] 
[02:45] <student> hello
[02:45] <student> any one care to chat?
[02:45] <_jason> student, stop, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[02:45] <student> hi jason
[02:45] <navarone> student this isn't a chatty chat room
[02:45] <student> ok
[02:45] <LordMelkor> timfrost how do i make it recognize the alternate directory for the config file
[02:45] <hawking> Does pan save the stuff it downloads somewhere or does it delete them after exiting?
[02:46] <student> how to make a web page
[02:46] <crimsun_> hawking: ~/News/Pan/
[02:46] <navarone> hawking...it saves binaries and articles in News/Pan folder in home directory
[02:46] <Orborde> What program do I want to be able to view .dia files?
[02:46] <hawking> thx
[02:46] <timfrost> LordMelkor, there must be a variable  in the Makefile that you can set to the correct file name.
[02:46] <nbound> anyone else in here running x86_64?
[02:47] <Hendikins|Work> I'm running x86_64, but not Ubuntu on it
[02:47] <jariep1_> hello all
[02:47] <jariep1_> I have kubuntu DVD which has live dvd
[02:47] <nbound> okay, anyone running x86_64 ubuntu?
[02:47] <bimberi> Orborde: it could be be "dia" itself - it's a "Diagram editor"
[02:47] <navarone> Orborde...not 100% sure but maybe one of the Open Office suite progs will
[02:47] <yaaar> !seveas
[02:47] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:47] <Hendikins|Work> Is the question ubuntu-specific?
[02:48] <jariep1_> there is an option for install that says : linux vga-771
[02:48] <jariep1_> how do i type this boot parameter for the live dvd?
[02:48] <Blippe> yaaar, that page doesn't mention the gpg key you need
[02:48] <yaaar> hey...anybody have access to change ubotu's answers?
[02:48] <_jason> yaaar, why
[02:48] <yaaar> Blippe: i actually already have that
[02:48] <nbound> jariep1_, kubuntu vga=771
[02:48] <bob832> hi there....are there any free partition recovery programs for linux that would recover a drive writen in nfts?
[02:48] <nbound> or similar
[02:48] <jariep1_> ok
[02:48] <jariep1_> thanks
[02:48] <yaaar> _jason: to add an http:// on the url there so it'll be clickable
[02:49] <jariep1_> thanks rbound
[02:49] <michael> what's a good memory scanner program?
[02:49] <jean> i cant quit eye of gnome in fullscreen mode, is there a way to do so on a terminal?
[02:49] <Blippe> yaaar, while you'ra at it, put in a link to a page with the gpg!
[02:49] <_jason> !seveas
[02:49] <ubotu> Seveas has a semi-popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:49] <yaaar> Blippe: will do
[02:49] <_jason> ubotu, tell yaaar about yourself
[02:49] <michael> I tried using wine to run a windows prog, but it won't read the memory
[02:50] <yaaar> _jason: so in other words, with adequate command of the syntax *I* can change it?
[02:50] <jean> like sudo killall eyeofgnome, i tried that and didnt help, i was just guessing
[02:50] <_jason> yaaar, yes
[02:50] <yaaar> neat
[02:50] <jariep1_> rbound, i get a could not find kernel image error message
[02:50] <spiette> anyone here got this libgl1-mesa-dev problem? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81806
[02:50] <Mabus06> navarone, you still around
[02:50] <jdier> how does one uncompress a rar file from the command line?
[02:51] <navarone> yeah
[02:51] <Mabus06> navarone, in order to install packages and whatnot I'll need the internet working
[02:51] <Mabus06> so can you help me to get my wireless setup?
[02:51] <navarone> No internet access?
[02:51] <_jason> jdier, install unrar-nonfree from multiverse, the command to extract is 'unrar x /path/to/rar'
[02:51] <Mabus06> It's my friends computer.
[02:51] <McJerry> !topic
[02:51] <myriad> hi.  i just finished installing ubuntu.  however, when it asked me to select the possible resolutions, i selected resolutions that are too high, and now when i boot into ubuntu my monitor gives a message "out of scan range".  how can i go back and deselect the too-high resolutions?
[02:51] <Mabus06> Which luckily enough has the same wireless card as this one so I can just connect to my router.
[02:52] <navarone> I know nada about wireless...I haven't even seen the entire Pinochio film
[02:52] <jean> mh, aay one? how can i quit eyeofgnome in a terminal
[02:52] <nbound> jariep1_, well what are u meant to type normally to get into kubuntu
[02:52] <Mabus06> But I've never done it without a GUI
[02:52] <jdier> _jason - apt-get install unrar-nonfree?
[02:52] <Mabus06> Is ndiswrapper not on the server install? That's stupid
[02:52] <jariep1_> rbound, i just click enter key and livecd boots
[02:52] <_jason> jdier, yes, should do it if you've enabled multiverse
[02:52] <bimberi> myriad: ctrl-alt-f1, log in, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:52] <Lennox> !hd slave
[02:52] <ubotu> Lennox: Not a clue
[02:52] <Lennox> !slave
[02:52] <ubotu> Lennox: Do they come in packets of five?
[02:53] <bimberi> ekr
[02:53] <jariep1_> rbound, i tried to just type in vga=771
[02:53] <jariep1_> but no go
[02:53] <myriad> when do i hit ctrl-alt-f1?
[02:53] <nbound> jariep1_, ummm check the help and shit (use F<number> keys)
[02:53] <jdier> myriad - when you are running windows!
[02:54] <bimberi> myriad: when you feel that ubuntu has fully booted
[02:54] <Lennox> How do I setup a slave hard drive?
[02:54] <navarone> Mabus06, I gotta get to bed...TGTIF...<s> good luck
[02:54] <jariep1_> rbound, i did, but the boot parameters seem to be for hard disk install
[02:54] <Mabus06> thanks for your help navarone
[02:54] <navarone> no prob
[02:54] <jean> i cant quit eye of gnome in fullscreen mode, is there a way to do so on a terminal?
[02:54] <Mabus06> later
[02:54] <myriad> bimberi:  and this will immediately change the resolution to something usable by my monitor?
[02:54] <navarone> jariel...are you able to change the resolution and such when live cd is loaded?
[02:55] <navarone> jariepl rather
[02:55] <myriad> or am i typing this command blind?
[02:55] <Mabus06> Can anyone help me to connect wirelessly to my router with only a server install of ubuntu?
[02:55] <jariep1_> rbound, i'm going to try expert vga=771
[02:55] <_jason> jean, ps aux | grep eye | grep gnome, see if anything looks like it might be eye of gnome.  or you can use 'xkill' and then jsut click on the program you wan't to kill
[02:55] <bimberi> myriad: it should switch you to a virtual terminal, which isn't X and should (hopefully) display on your monitor
[02:55] <myriad> i see
[02:55] <myriad> thanks for the help
[02:55] <navarone> jean...press alt-f2   and when dialog appears type "xkill" with out quotes...then click the program windows
[02:56] <jariep1_> rbound, seems expert parameter is for install
[02:56] <bimberi> myriad: np, hope it works for you :)
[02:56] <myriad> me too  =)
[02:56] <jean> thanks guys
[02:56] <navarone> Okay...i am gone...cya all take care
[02:57] <dgtl> hi everyone
[02:57] <Trent> !hda slave
[02:57] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Trent
[02:58] <nbound> jariep1_, just change it from in the OS itself
[02:58] <dgtl> could anyone help me out with Totem? it says: Totem could not startup
[02:58] <Trent> Does anyone know how to mount a slave?
[02:59] <lucasd> does anybody know if dapper will have support to winmodens?
[02:59] <Blippe> hda's slave is hdb!
[02:59] <nbound> dgtl, get video card drivers for ur card
[02:59] <jariep1_> rbound, how do I select framebuffer, from within kubuntu, I have it on other machine so maybe you can walk me through
[02:59] <theconartist> Trent, what race is your slave?
[02:59] <Trent> theconartist: Your not funny.
[02:59] <dgtl> nbound, ehm i'm playing around in vmware... is there a way to check if i'm using the vmware driver?
[02:59] <_jason> dgtl, what does 'ps aux | grep totem' return?
[03:00] <theconartist> Trent, thanks, neither are you
[03:00] <nbound> jariep1_, i dont know for frame buffer...
[03:00] <Psi-Jack> Hey, anyone use K/Ubuntu with an ATI Radeon? I'm having trouble with a system running slowly, playing DVD's.
[03:00] <Mabus06> Psi-Jack, right here
[03:00] <_jason> dgtl, oh totem has never started up?
[03:00] <dgtl> _jason, just my grep
[03:00] <dgtl> :)
[03:00] <nbound> jariep1_, and its nbound ;-)
[03:00] <dgtl> nope
[03:00] <Psi-Jack> Mabus06: Did you have to do any special setup to get your ATI video working smoothly or anything?
[03:01] <_jason> dgtl, what nbound said then :)
[03:01] <Mabus06> Psi-Jack, yes... are you using the ati or the fglrx driver
[03:01] <Psi-Jack> Mabus06: One sec
[03:01] <dgtl> hm
[03:01] <jariep1_> rbound, ok
[03:01] <jariep1_> i'll look for it
[03:01] <dgtl> nbound, well i'm using the vmware display driver so that seems to be working... any other clues?
[03:02] <nemik> is there any way to apt-get into a specific directory?
[03:02] <Mabus06> Does anyone know if you can do a server install from the install CD... and then install specific packages from the CD afterwards?
[03:02] <nbound> dgtl, can u just use one for ur type of card
[03:02] <Blippe> Mabus yes yes you can!
[03:02] <Psi-Jack> Mabus06: Looks like it's using the ati driver.
[03:02] <Blippe> sudo apt-get [package] 
[03:02] <Amaranth> Mabus06: boot the cd with the server option
[03:03] <dgtl> nbound, guess so... this is the one installed by vmware itself (which you are prompted to install)
[03:03] <Mabus06> Psi-Jack, well you'll need to change that
[03:03] <Mabus06> Amaranth, yeah, I had already done that but I was sort of clueless without GNOME
[03:03] <Amaranth> Mabus06: Then why ask? :)
[03:03] <Psi-Jack> Mabus06: Okay. Get the fglrx driver from apt, and then what? :)
[03:03] <Amaranth> the server CD is the same thing
[03:04] <Mabus06> Amaranth, the part I didn't know was if I could install packages from the CD afterwards
[03:04] <nbound> dgtl, i have little experience with vmware myself... so maybe see if u can find someone else to take it from here :)
[03:04] <Amaranth> it just has some common server packages on the cd so you don't need to download them
[03:04] <Trent> !format fat
[03:04] <ubotu> Not a clue, Trent
[03:04] <dgtl> nbound, ok ... thank you anyway
[03:04] <Amaranth> Mabus06: of course you can, it's added as an apt source
[03:04] <Mabus06> Psi-Jack, there is a good howto on the wiki, hold on
[03:04] <Mabus06> !ATI
[03:04] <ubotu> I heard ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[03:04] <nbound> dgtl, no worries mate
[03:04] <Amaranth> Mabus06: so apt-get "Just Works" for things that are on the CD
[03:04] <Mabus06> Psi-Jack, back up your xorg.conf first! :)
[03:04] <Mabus06> okay thanks, Amaranth
[03:05] <nbound> trent, do you want to format a drive as fat?
[03:05] <Blippe> Mabus06 there is even a graphical program for apt-get without need for x running: aptitude
[03:05] <Trent> I want to format it to FAT.
[03:05] <Blippe> har to use though
[03:05] <Mabus06> Blippe, oh, that's what aptitude is
[03:05] <Amaranth> among other things
[03:05] <nbound> try Gnomeparted... i use that for my mem stick ;)
[03:05] <Amaranth> you can use it as a drop in replacement for apt-get too
[03:06] <Amaranth> with some nice extra features
[03:06] <rabt> Hi there. Does anyone knows how to update /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab entries ?. I've swapped my drives and now I can't mount the drive with XP on it
[03:06] <nbound> Trent, sorry Gparted, my bad
[03:06] <Amaranth> like uninstalling unneeded dependencies when you remove a package
[03:06] <Blippe> like, haveing screwed up menus, so you have to read them first and then remember them, because they will become unreadable!
[03:07] <psusi> Trent, you want to format what for fat?
[03:07] <Amaranth> Blippe: i'm talking about using it on the command line
[03:07] <Amaranth> Blippe: not as a curses app
[03:07] <Blippe> oh, i see
[03:07] <nbound> psusi, Gparted should format anything to fat should it not?
[03:07] <Amaranth> $ aptitude remove gnomebaker
[03:07] <Amaranth> and such
[03:08] <psusi> nbound, I think so...
[03:08] <timfrost> rabt, don't touch /etc/mtab (it is a list of *current* mounted filesystems).edit /etc/fstab with 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab' and edit the device names
[03:09] <nbound> now anyone remember the name of the mp3 codec u need to dload for totem-xine to work?
[03:10] <rabt> I wasn't sure about editing fstab, I needed a second opinion, thanks timfrost.
[03:11] <nbound> now anyone remember the name of the mp3 codec u need to dload for totem-xine to work with mp3s? anyone?
[03:12] <_jason> ubotu, tell nbound about multimedia
[03:13] <ardchoille> I had a small C program that would not die. I tried kill <pid>, killall appname and kill -HUP appname. How do you forcefully kill an app?
[03:13] <timfrost> ardchoille, kill -9 PID.
[03:13] <ardchoille> timfrost: Thanks
[03:14] <nbound> _jason, thx
[03:14] <Amaranth> ardchoille: some processes go zombie and don't die
[03:14] <Amaranth> you can wait up to 24 hours for init to clear them out or reboot to get rid of them
[03:14] <saotome_> hi guys
[03:15] <saotome_> i no this isn't a particularly good place to ask this, but here goes
[03:15] <dgtl> ehm
[03:15] <ardchoille> Amaranth: yeah, I had to rboot
[03:15] <saotome_> anyone know of a good cvs server for windows?
[03:15] <dgtl> anyone know where totem-xine has gone?
[03:15] <_jason> !info totem-xine
[03:15] <ubotu> totem-xine: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on xine), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 776 kB, Installed size: 4492 kB
[03:15] <dgtl> ah thanks
[03:16] <kevcool> cygwin is probably a good place to start
[03:16] <kevcool> if you must have windows
[03:16] <saotome_> cygwin = cvs server?
[03:16] <saotome_> well, i use ubuntu on my dev machine
[03:16] <saotome_> but my mortal siblings can't grasp the concept of a computer with out the cute little flag
[03:16] <saotome_> so....
[03:17] <kevcool> there's lots of software available to run within cygwin. i'm sure cvs is one
[03:17] <saotome_> cool
[03:17] <saotome_> let me look into it
[03:17] <saotome_> if anyone else has any other options, i'm opne
[03:17] <saotome_> open*
[03:17] <haasteem> hi, how can i check if alsa is running in blackbox?... i suspect something is not right with my sound now that i run ubuntu in blackbox...
[03:18] <kevcool> cygwin's pretty cool in general if you have to use windows
[03:19] <dgtl> ehm my cool white cursors has dissapeared anyone know a quick way to get them back? (the jimmac ones)
[03:19] <FX|Gamer> so if I can ask a question
[03:19] <FX|Gamer> why is automatix bad?
[03:20] <chemaja> does gnu bash no longer supply texinfo documentation? or does [k] ubuntu choose not to include it? or...? (`info bash' gives me a manpage-looking document)
[03:20] <nemik> how would i add environmental variables?
[03:20] <LinuxMonk> kevcool you dont necessarely need to use winblows unless ur a gamer and even at that alot of games run natively in linux.
[03:20] <_jason> ubotu, tell FX|Gamer about automatix
[03:20] <FX|Gamer> thanks _jason and ubotu
[03:20] <welshbyte> why would a named pipe disappear on reboot?
[03:21] <LinuxMonk> ubotu, tell LinuxMonk about automatix
[03:21] <FX|Gamer> It seems like a nice app though. lol
[03:21] <LinuxMonk> lol
[03:21] <nbound> hmmm ive enabled the multiverse repositories but i cant access them =/
[03:22] <_jason> nbound, what do you mean
[03:22] <dager> apt-get update
[03:22] <dager> ?
[03:22] <Determinist> bwahaha, my gnome is so pretty now :D
[03:22] <specialbuddy> whats a good program for partitioning
[03:22] <specialbuddy> ?
[03:22] <nbound> _jason, ive enabled them in synaptic... but cant access them
[03:22] <somerville32> gpart?
[03:22] <nbound> specialbuddy, gparted
[03:22] <somerville32> I have a question
[03:22] <_jason> nbound, pastebin you /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:22] <kevcool> LinuxMonk - understood - I don't use Winows but some companies force you to.  In that case, cygwin is a cool option.
[03:22] <specialbuddy> another question
[03:23] <somerville32> What does Ubuntu have in store for it's self in the future?
[03:23] <LinuxMonk> hey guys im thinking of loading ubuntu on my main desktop, only problem is that I got a tv capture card, any suggestions on what programs I would require to record some tv
[03:23] <specialbuddy> can I make the swap partition bigger
[03:23] <arrinmurr> LinuxMonk: kaffeine
[03:23] <somerville32> Ask it
[03:23] <welshbyte> i did
[03:24] <welshbyte> why would a named pipe disappear on reboot?
[03:24] <somerville32> I dunno.
[03:24] <specialbuddy> what do I need in order to watch dvd's
[03:24] <arrinmurr> LinuxMonk: ...which comes with kubuntu, but can also be installed separately if you choose gnome over kde
[03:25] <_jason> ubotu, tell specialbuddy about dvd
[03:25] <timfrost> welshbyte, what is the path to the named pipe? If that is in a partition that is of type tmpfs, it will disappear
[03:25] <somerville32> !restrictedformats
[03:25] <ubotu> rumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:25] <welshbyte> nope it's in /var/run/lastfmsubmitd/
[03:25] <nbound> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7046
[03:25] <LinuxMonk> welshbyte here's a little funny for ya, someone stole it while u were rebooting so the system didnt see anything or anyone.
[03:25] <somerville32> What does Ubuntu have in the future?
[03:26] <welshbyte> :)
[03:26] <_jason> nbound, do you notice anything odd about your sources on line 13?
[03:26] <nbound> _jason, crap... thats missing the top half =/
[03:26] <nbound> _jason, no???
[03:27] <_jason> nbound, those '$' don't look misplaced?  not to mention the truncated 'universe' as 'unive'
[03:27] <nbound> _jason, its copied from nano... nano uses a $ to denote the end of a line
[03:28] <nbound> _jason, ill paste a better copy :)
[03:29] <jdier> anyone here use alt-tab for application switching?
[03:29] <FX|Gamer> yep
[03:30] <nbound> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7047 better now and its the full file
[03:30] <wckdkl0wn> whats the command in terminal to unmount the cdrom as root?
[03:30] <hawking> what's the easiest way to learn if my camera is detected or not?
[03:30] <saotome_> ok, i do not want to run all of that (CYGWIN) on my machine
[03:30] <jdier> FX|Gamer - alt-tab?
[03:30] <saotome_> i just want a simple cvs server
[03:30] <somerville32> Good night
[03:30] <_jason> nbound, add " multiverse" to the end of lines 19,20,35, and 36
[03:31] <rixth> How do I change font settings?
[03:31] <specialbuddy> how can I play dvi's
[03:31] <nbound> _jason, but they are universe repositories =/
[03:31] <_jason> nbound, huh?
[03:31] <e_machinist> Anyone know how to remove all the ubuntu/gnome default stuff now that I got Kubuntu (over default ubuntu)?
[03:32] <nbound> e_machinist, apt-get -r gnome-desktop????
[03:32] <_jason> nbound, you can add it there, just look at your lines 29 and 30.  You have four there
[03:32] <wckdkl0wn> whats the command in terminal to unmount the cdrom as root?
[03:32] <specialbuddy> how do I play avi movies
[03:32] <specialbuddy> ?
[03:32] <nbound> _jason, oh okay thanx
[03:32] <saotome_> specialbuddy: vlc
[03:33] <_jason> specialbuddy, ubotu told you how to play dvd's
[03:33] <moshe> hello
[03:34] <moshe> could anyone think of a reason why alsa keeps resetting my volume levels, despite my turning the volume up with alsamixer and storing the settings afterwards?
[03:35] <zenwhen> hey
[03:35] <saotome_> anyone know how i can make the master volume and the headset volume go up and down at the same time?
[03:35] <saotome_> like when i alter the master volume the headphone volume changes also
[03:36] <Crema10> hello everybody
[03:36] <alekandr> saotome_: cant be done :(
[03:36] <saotome_> everything is possible
[03:37] <saotome_> it's just that we don't know a way of doing it :)
[03:37] <moshe> anyone?
[03:37] <Crema10> I installed 5.10 and its great, but there are a couple of problems.. first problem that is most important, is when I log out it goes to a black screen and it says "ubuntu long:" I type in my user name, but nothing, it gives me another login.. I was hoping that when i log out, it would take me to the log in screen that you first get at bootup
[03:37] <nbound> _jason, didnt work =/ says directory couldnt be found for each one
[03:37] <_jason> nbound, sudo apt-get update
[03:37] <_jason> nbound, always apt-get update after editing sources.list
[03:38] <nekostar> hey if im installing linux as secondary boot tell grub windows is on first partition even though its linux??
[03:38] <nbound> lol, now i have to re-edit it :'(
[03:38] <nekostar> linux + linux
[03:38] <alekandr> no
[03:38] <alekandr> chainload windows + linux
[03:39] <alekandr> i.e. hda1 and hda2
[03:39] <Crema10> anybody? please?
[03:39] <rixth> How so I start X?
[03:39] <rixth> startx is not found.
[03:39] <moshe> rixth, what program are you using to type this?
[03:39] <nbound> _jason, now its goin thanx :)
[03:40] <_jason> nbound, np
[03:40] <rixth> mosche I'm using BitchX for IRC is thats what your asking
[03:40] <moshe> Crema10, what are you trying to do?
[03:40] <brad_teenbot> Hey dustin are you in here?
[03:40] <Locke> this might not be a good question, but i just got a Toshiba Multimedia Center Audio Hub and does anyone know if there is any way to get it working with Linux?
[03:40] <_jason> rixth, did you do  a server install?
[03:40] <moshe> yes, rixth
[03:40] <Mabus06> How do I install ndiswrapper or otherwise get my wireless card to work on a computer that doesn't have the internet yet (until this problem is solved)
[03:40] <timfrost> Crema10 what happens if you press CTRL-ALT-F7?
[03:40] <moshe> try typing kdm or gdm with sudo
[03:40] <rixth> _jason no no! X was working fine, I restarted, now it doesn't.
[03:40] <Chris_Tucker> how does one play an AACPLUS stream ?
[03:40] <Orborde> rixth: If you're on Ubuntu with standard gdm, /etc/init.d/gdm restart should do it.
[03:40] <nbound> Locke, check toshiba's website for linux drivers...
[03:40] <Crema10> timfrost: i get a black screen with a cursor blinking
[03:41] <rixth> Orborde, _jason it doesn't, X can't start.
[03:41] <hawking> tor is automatically started at start-up how can i stop that?
[03:42] <Orborde> rixth: Changed any settings lately?
[03:42] <rixth> I've run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and gone through the wizard, still broke
[03:42] <timfrost> Cream10, sounds as if X is crashing. Try CTRL-alT-F2, log in and run 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'.
[03:42] <Mabus06> How do I install ndiswrapper or otherwise get my wireless card to work on a computer that doesn't have the internet yet (until this problem is solved)
[03:42] <rixth> Orborde this install is less than 24 hours old
[03:42] <specialbuddy> so can I make my swap partition larger
[03:42] <specialbuddy> ?
[03:42] <Crema10> i get nothing when i press ctrl-alt-f2  :(
[03:42] <Mabus06> I have this computer connected to the internet and I have a flash drive to transfer files with, but how?
[03:43] <Crema10> same black screen with the cursor blinking at the upper left side of the screen
[03:44] <rixth> 'Fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed''
[03:44] <FX|Gamer> ugh I hate firefox for locking up all the time
[03:44] <specialbuddy> how much swap space should I have set up for my computer
[03:44] <specialbuddy> ?
[03:44] <hyphenated> FX|Gamer: works fine for me
[03:45] <rixth> specialbuddy well first off stop putting a line break then a questions mark, but it should be about twice the size of RAM./
[03:45] <specialbuddy> what happens if it's not set up that way?
[03:45] <FX|Gamer> hyphenated, if I breath wrong it will lock up.
[03:45] <tonyyarusso> For anyone using an IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad (esp. T series, but any responses appreciated): What kind of battery life do you have, and what did you have to do to configure power management for it?
[03:45] <FX|Gamer> basically unusable
[03:46] <hyphenated> FX|Gamer: have you got a crapload of extensions or plugins installed?
[03:46] <FX|Gamer> hyphenated, nope its a fresh install
[03:46] <freakazoid3333> i have a think pad R 1.6p3M and with wi-fi on i get 2:30
[03:46] <timfrost> Crema10, what happens if you press RETURN?
[03:47] <rixth> I'm getting xfonts-base, hopefull that will fix things
[03:47] <bimberi> specialbuddy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwapFaq
[03:47] <zoexii> hello,  I just upgraded mobo and processor.  The new board has built in sound, (VIA1617A says the manual) and I cannot get it to work...  System>Prefs>SoundPrefs lists only "VIA8237", no options to change.  Changing the default sink in "multimedia systems selector" doesn't seem to help either.
[03:47] <freakazoid3333> for power management enter the bios screen
[03:47] <Crema10> timfrost: nothing the cursor still there blinking
[03:47] <rixth> VIA8327 is a southbridge, nothing to do with sound :S
[03:48] <Mabus06> what's the ubuntu equivalent of windows' 'view available wireless networks'
[03:48] <rixth> Mabus06 Google is your friend.
[03:48] <rixth> wireless network finder+linux
[03:48] <Cass> Mabus06: i use wifi-radar
[03:48] <specialbuddy> thanks bimberi
[03:49] <bimberi> specialbuddy: np :)
[03:49] <Mabus06> #ubuntu is my friend
[03:49] <Mabus06> Browsing links with no mouse is not very 'friendly'
[03:50] <nbound> Mabus06, why no mouse?
[03:50] <linuxpoet> any thoughts on where I can find mozilla 1.5 for Breezy?
[03:50] <rixth> Heh. I don't even have X.
[03:50] <rixth> !firefox1.5
[03:50] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:50] <rixth> !firefox 1.5
[03:50] <ubotu> rixth: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:50] <Mabus06> nbound, because it's on the computer I'm trying to get my wireless to work with
[03:50] <rixth> Oh, missed it
[03:50] <zoexii> rixth, indeed.  strange, but that is exactly what it says... "VIA 8237"
[03:51] <nbound> Mabus06, ohhh... hope i dont have that much trouble when i eventually get one so i can use my PSP on the web
[03:51] <linuxpoet> Sorry let me be more clearn
[03:51] <linuxpoet> Thunderbird 1.5 is what I am looking for
[03:51] <too> thats interesting, cool eh?
[03:52] <nbound> linuxpoet, whats wrong with evolution?
[03:53] <linuxpoet> nbound: your kidding right?
[03:53] <steve_laptop> anyone using ubuntu with netscape dialup internet? if so hows it working?
[03:53] <nbound> VIA 8237 is a southbridge on some Athlon XP mobos
[03:53] <linuxpoet> nbound: It is bulky, fairly buggy, and IMHO clumsy in comparison to Thunderbird
[03:53] <nbound> linuxpoet, download it from the firefox website then...
[03:54] <nbound> unless ur running x86-64 it shold be fine
[03:54] <linuxpoet> I was just wondering if there was a backports or something. I can obviously download if I need to :)
[03:54] <SteveStevings> is there a way to reset my (i think its called) PCMIA cards on my laptop without having to restart? Because sometimes i accidentally pull to hard on my usb card and it becomes disconnected and then wont work till the next restart
[03:54] <linuxpoet> SteveStevings: you could try restarting pcmcia
[03:55] <{alejandro}> I am having some issues with madwifi/wpa_supplicant
[03:55] <SteveStevings> linuxpoet, how?
[03:55] <zoexii> hbn
[03:55] <{alejandro}> I can't seem to connect to either of the routers in my house
[03:55] <wckdkl0wn> how do i unmount the cdrom when it says i cant unmount because i dont have permission
[03:55] <linuxpoet> ->/etc/init.d/pcmcia restart
[03:55] <linuxpoet> wckdkl0wn: sudo eject
[03:56] <wckdkl0wn> ty
[03:56] <zoexii> does anyone know if linux can support sound over USB?
[03:57] <Hendikins|Work> Yes
[03:57] <wckdkl0wn> anyone here have experience with wine that i can talk to?
[03:57] <{alejandro}> zoexii it sure can
[03:58] <MarcN> wckdkl0wn: just ask.
[03:58] <Cythril> Hi guys, right now I'm running windows and I have a really big music collection, I was just wondering if I back it all up to a DVD using the default Windows CD Burning software, will I be able to load it up in Linux?  I know Linux uses a different file system (FAT32 right?) so I was just wondering if I could still make it work.
[03:58] <nbound> anyone know any programs that can convert movies to MP4 (MPEG4) for PSP
[03:58] <robotgeek> what's the best way to fix a grub error 21 problem, a live cd?
[03:58] <wckdkl0wn> well i isntalled wine after adding the repositories that winehq said to add.. but how do i open wine? on mandriva it was in the menus but on ubuntu its not..
[03:59] <zoexii> {alejandro}, cool, are there any standards relating to audio over USB?  I want to make sure that I buy something that works...
[03:59] <Blippe> Cythril, yes inux will read your dvds
[03:59] <Cythril> Alright, thank you. :)
[03:59] <Blippe> Cythril
[03:59] <{alejandro}> well cythril there is more to it than that
[03:59] <nbound> wckdkl0wn, from the command line "wine <program name>"
[03:59] <Blippe> it will also read your ntfs (no writing though)
[03:59] <Hendikins|Work> Cythril: a DVD would use ISO9660, and just about nothing /doesn't/ read it. Oh, and Linux doesn't use FAT32.
[03:59] <s0nix> Hi all. If anyone installed his ubuntu system on a multi-disk raid-0 SOFTWARE(promise fasttrack). pm me plz.
[03:59] <Hendikins|Work> (unless you're using a re-writable DVD)
[03:59] <MarcN> wckdkl0wn: why use those respositories?  wine is in the stock ubuntu repositories.  The command is: wine
[04:00] <{alejandro}> actually I can mount fat32 sometimes
[04:00] <{alejandro}> if you do it on a DVD just change your fstab
[04:00] <Blippe> Cythril, pre win2000 used fat, linux does read and write fat, but it aint the best of formats
[04:00] <wckdkl0wn> MarcN, so to update to Wine 0.9.5
[04:00] <nbound> Blippe, u mean FAT32 ;)
[04:00] <wckdkl0wn> MarcN, doesnt wine have a gui?
[04:00] <nbound> pre-win 95b used FAT(16)
[04:01] <Blippe> Cythril, ubuntu primarily uses somthing called ext3 (but has support for a lot more)
[04:01] <{alejandro}> and there is vfat just to make things nice and messy
[04:01] <MarcN> wckdkl0wn: did you need 0.9.5?  That version is already in ubuntu/dapper.
[04:01] <nbound> wckdkl0wn, i beleive theres a wine-gui package there somewhere
[04:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> nbound: xwine
[04:01] <wckdkl0wn> MarcN, i like to keep things up to date whenever possible
[04:01] <Blippe> nbound, na there was a fat16 too (and to be a few more older)
[04:01] <nbound> wckdkl0wn, what PuMpErNiCkLe said :)
[04:02] <nbound> nbound, yeah it supported them but default was FAT32 :)
[04:02] <nbound> lol, whyd i type my own name
[04:02] <nbound> :P
[04:02] <Cythril> I just don't want to format my hard drive to install Ubuntu and then lose all my music because I didn't burn it correctly to a DVD or something.
[04:03] <MarcN> wckdkl0wn: that is why I just track ubuntu -- tired of tracking a million packages.
[04:03] <nbound> well check the dvd first
[04:03] <nbound> or burn 2
[04:03] <Blippe> Cythril, Yeah, backups are good
[04:03] <wckdkl0wn> hrmmm this wine is diff then the one that mandriva uses
[04:04] <Toma-> wckdkl0wn: different version?
[04:04] <nbound> anyone know any programs that can convert movies to MPEG4???
[04:04] <wckdkl0wn> the gui is diff
[04:04] <Toma-> wckdkl0wn: wine doesnt have a gui...
[04:04] <arrinmurr> nbound: mencoder?
[04:04] <Toma-> nbound: avidemux
[04:04] <nbound> arrinmurr, Toma-, thanx :)
[04:04] <Toma-> nbound: from dvd?
[04:05] <Blippe> Toma-, xwine (i don't like it)
[04:05] <nbound> no
[04:05] <nbound> Toma-, from file
[04:05] <Toma-> k
[04:05] <wckdkl0wn> the reason for me installing wine is so i can play diablo 2 still
[04:05] <Toma-> i have no xwine...
[04:05] <arrinmurr> nbound: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mencoder_Introduction_Guide
[04:06] <nbound> wckdkl0wn, im probably wrong but i swear ive heard theres a diablo 2 binary for linux
[04:06] <nbound> arrinmurr, thanx :)
[04:06] <wckdkl0wn> whats that mean?
[04:06] <Gary> what's the easiest way to install wine? is there an apt-get command line for it?  (or winex, i would like the version of wine to run wnidows software, not just dos apps)
[04:06] <Toma-> no there isnt...
[04:06] <robotgeek> grub error 21, menu.lst and /etc/fstab posted at http://pastebin.com/503440
[04:06] <nbound> wckdkl0wn, a program that will run natively on linux... but Toma- just said there wasnt so my bad
[04:07] <wckdkl0wn> ok
[04:07] <Toma-> http://www.liflg.org/?catid=7 <<< Has most of the games that run with wine
[04:07] <timfrost> Gary, wine is in universe, so add the universe repository
[04:07] <Blippe> wckdkl0wn,  http://www.frankscorner.org/index.php?p=diablo2
[04:08] <rance> I need some help finding a package, i need php to have BOTH the mysql and the mysql enhanced commands, the mysql commands are provided by the php-mysql package, but where do I get the mysqli commands? there is no ubuntu package for php-mysqli
[04:08] <robotgeek> grub gurus, please help :). grub error 21, menu.lst and /etc/fstab posted at http://pastebin.com/503440
[04:08] <fearmoth> when I go to a terminal in ubuntu, I try to run su, it asks me for the root password and I enter the correct password, but it still says access denied .. howcome?
[04:09] <fearmoth> or "su: authentication failure"
[04:09] <drunkpikachu>  can anyone tell me how to find out exactly what ver. of KDE is on my system?
[04:09] <lapducky> Konqueror <-- Help --> About
[04:09] <lapducky> drunkpikachu,
[04:09] <SweetestSavage> I'm trying to make and format a hard drive, and every time I try my system hangs and never finishes. The hard drive light just constantly stays on, and nothing ever happens.
[04:09] <drunkpikachu> thanks!
[04:10] <myriad> yay i finally got ubuntu running
[04:10] <lapducky> SweetestSavage, under locally installed Ubuntu or using the boot CD?
[04:10] <SweetestSavage> lapducky, live CD
[04:10] <bimberi> myriad: glad to hear it :)
[04:11] <lapducky> SweetestSavage, just do the install then
[04:11] <nbound> how do i get the thumbnails to reinitialise in nautilus?
[04:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> SweetestSavage: It could be a hardware problem - I had an issue like that due to a crap PSU.
[04:11] <rixth_> When I try and open RhythmBox I get: Failed to create the player: Couldn't initialize scheduler.  Did you run gst-register?
[04:11] <SweetestSavage> lapducky, I would but it doesn't format before writing partitions. I need it to do that
[04:11] <rixth_> Any ideas?
[04:11] <lapducky> Don't even bother with Live if you've now determined that your hardware is supported.
[04:11] <g3wn> anyone know how to find cpu temp? I worried that my cpu is not configured properly... when I was installing ubuntu I was recieving critical heat warning but when it rebooted it would be fine and just resume installation... ;/
[04:11] <SweetestSavage> lapducky, I had Ubuntu installed, and it crapped out on me =/ Hence why I'm on Live..
[04:11] <lapducky> SweetestSavage, uhhh... you format AFTER writing partitions (or leaving them alone)
[04:12] <nbound> g3wn, id reseat ur heatsink if i was you ;-)
[04:12] <g3wn> I'm on a laptop...
[04:12] <SweetestSavage> lapducky, well the problem is, the installer findes errors on the hard drive and doesn't complete its job. Same with the second hard drive, it says it can't create the partition
[04:12] <lapducky> g3wn, is it an older Duron -- heh?
[04:12] <g3wn> nah.. 1.5 centrino
[04:13] <nbound> g3wn, it still has a small heatsink right?
[04:13] <lapducky> SweetestSavage, do you care about any data on those drives?
[04:13] <SweetestSavage> lapducky, no I already have backed up everything
[04:13] <lapducky> (sounds like you might have bad sectors or physical disk errors)
[04:13] <g3wn> nbound: never opened it up yet... I just got it not that long ago
[04:13] <SweetestSavage> lapducky, my guess is bad sectors =) These drives are fine
[04:13] <nbound> g3wn, coz u shouldnt be getting heat probs under normal conditions
[04:14] <ashyg> I switched from the 64 bit version of breezy to the 32 bit version and it didn't fix my wireless.
[04:14] <g3wn> was going to open it up and see if it was dirty... but it looks clean thru the vents
[04:14] <lapducky> SweetestSavage, nuke the MBRs -- reinitialize the disks and try again
[04:14] <SweetestSavage> lapducky, how do I do that?
[04:14] <g3wn> nbound: hmmm
[04:14] <g3wn> damn
[04:14] <lapducky> Most modern IDE controllers will map around bad sectors automatically
[04:14] <myriad> when you highlight a launcher on the desktop and press the delete key, does it go to some sort of recycle bin or is it immediately deleted?
[04:15] <ashyg> Will somebody please hold my hand and help me get my wireless working please, because my hardwired ethernet is not supported by the version of the Linux kernel in Breezy 5.10
[04:15] <lapducky> but if you get erors in the first 512k (sector0) you can be just ^#@$ed
[04:15] <lapducky> SweetestSavage, with fdisk of course
[04:15] <SweetestSavage> lapducky, alright, so, guide me through the commands? =)
[04:15] <g3wn> nbound: I haven't recieved any warnings though since I've completed the setup... besides running sluggish which I think is because I have yet to setup video... it seems fine.
[04:15] <wckdkl0wn> what would the path to the cdrom be?
[04:16] <ashyg> wckdkl0wn: /media/cdrom/
[04:16] <wckdkl0wn> ty
[04:16] <lapducky> Have you tried the installer autopartitioner and told it to wipe the target disk completely?
[04:16] <SweetestSavage> lapducky, yes
[04:16] <nbound> g3wn, go into ur bios and see what temp its at, and what temp the warning is set at
[04:16] <lapducky> SweetestSavage, are you booted right now?
[04:17] <g3wn> nbound; there is no temp in the bios :(
[04:17] <SweetestSavage> lapducky, I'm on a Live CD
[04:17] <lapducky> (On the target system)
[04:17] <SweetestSavage> lapducky, yes this is the system with the problems
[04:17] <eno> does anyone know of a cool linux dev channel?
[04:17] <wckdkl0wn> hrmm i know i isntalled wine but now it says it doesnt exist
[04:17] <nbound> g3wn, :o jebus...
[04:17] <g3wn> looked everywhere... the bios seems to simple
[04:17] <lapducky> try :$ sudo -s cfdisk
[04:18] <g3wn> nbound; ya I know... I tried finding a cpu monitor for xp but only one worked and it said the cpu was at 60 c
[04:18] <lapducky> tell us what it says
[04:18] <ashyg> Will somebody please hold my hand and help me get my wireless working please, because my hardwired ethernet is not supported by the version of the Linux kernel in Breezy 5.10
[04:18] <SweetestSavage> lapducky, says it cannot execute it.
[04:18] <ClayG> anyone here ever re-wire a ps2 keyboard to usb before?
[04:18] <lapducky> then try :$ sudo -s cfdisk /dev/hda
[04:18] <nbound> g3wn, im guessing low end laptop?
[04:18] <SweetestSavage> lapducky I'll go search synaptic for it
[04:18] <g3wn> nbound; it's a acer travelmate 4000
[04:19] <g3wn> so ya I guess
[04:19] <lapducky> SweetestSavage, search for cfdisk?
[04:19] <lapducky> It's included with even busybox I thought
[04:19] <nbound> g3wn, not much u can do really, my guess not putting in a temp probe might save a few bucks
[04:19] <robotgeek> ashyg, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[04:19] <SweetestSavage> lapducky, maybe not the live CD
[04:19] <g3wn> nbound: heh
[04:19] <ashyg> robotgeek: i have been looking at that all day
[04:19] <myriad> if i highlight a file and press the delete key, does the file go to some sort of recycle bin or is it permanently deleted?
[04:19] <eno> ubotu, tell eno the url for ubuntu
[04:19] <nbound> g3wn, does ur vid card have a temp probe?
[04:19] <ashyg> robotgeek: mine is the d-link dwl-g122
[04:19] <robotgeek> ashyg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[04:20] <ashyg> robotgeek: i also saw that, the instructions don't work
[04:20] <g3wn> nbound: not that I know of... it's a intel gfx chipset one.
[04:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> myriad: trash
[04:20] <ashyg> i run ndiswrapper and it says some error about copying the inf, directory doesn't exist...
[04:20] <robotgeek> ashyg: ndiswrapper, maybe?
[04:20] <Mabus06> Can someone please help me? On the ubuntu machine I need help for I have a wireless card. I want to get it to work. I have a flash drive to transfer any files from this computer to the other if need be.
[04:20] <ashyg> then i run ndiswrapper -l and it says invalid driver
[04:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> myriad: There should be an icon for it bottom right.
[04:20] <robotgeek> ashyg: i am currently debugging my own issue, sorry
[04:20] <lapducky> SweetestSavage, if you don't have a mounted harddisk, how will you install packages?  USB drive?  RAMdrive?
[04:20] <eno> ubotu, don't jerk eno around
[04:20] <ubotu> eno: I give up, what is it?
[04:20] <nbound> g3wn, hmmm i doubt it then... dam... o well if u get no more probs dont worry about it, but its pretty weird that itd do that during install
[04:21] <myriad> thank you pumpernickle
[04:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> myriad: np :)
[04:21] <SweetestSavage> lapducky, the one causing problems currently (well both are) are mounted, I'll mount both, one second
[04:21] <g3wn> nbound: ya I know.. scared me... I don't think my cpu should be running at 60c tho... that or the program is not reading the sensor right.
[04:22] <nbound> g3wn, it shouldnt be running at 60 even under full load, it will be fine upto about 80-90 anyway
[04:22] <s0nix> If anyone installed his ubuntu system on a multi-disk raid-0 SOFTWARE(promise fasttrack). pm me plz.
[04:23] <nbound> g3wn, if uve got windows on it atm try speedfan
[04:23] <g3wn> nbound: k I will try taht
[04:24] <ashyg> robotgeek: i downloaded those ralink drivers
[04:24] <ashyg> and i can't make them
[04:24] <wckdkl0wn> what does this command do?  dd if=/dev/cdrom of=diablo2-play.iso
[04:24] <lapducky> SweetestSavage, have you tried (***warning: don't play with this at home, kids***)   :$ dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
[04:24] <ashyg> i run make and it says *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory. Stop.
[04:25] <timfrost> wckdkl0wn, creates an image of the CD
[04:25] <SweetestSavage> lapducky, what exactly does that do?
[04:25] <nbound> wckdkl0wn, looks like it checks if theres no cd to use an iso instead, thats just a guess
[04:25] <ashyg> why can't people just distribute binaries and source jesus fucking christ
[04:25] <nbound> wckdkl0wn, what timfrost said
[04:25] <wckdkl0wn> anyway i can break that command in terminal and have it stop
[04:25] <wckdkl0wn> cause its saving it wrong
[04:25] <wckdkl0wn> nvm its done
[04:25] <Neurosis> Can someone help me?  I am in a license agreement on this install in my terminal.  how do i get pased i cant get passed it
[04:26] <timfrost> ashyg, have you installed linux-headers-$(uname -r)?
[04:26] <lapducky> wckdkl0wn, that makes a .ISO file (a binary image) out of  the contents of your /dev/cdrom
[04:26] <wckdkl0wn> where does it put it?
[04:26] <ashyg> no, timfrost i didn't know i needed that
[04:26] <ashyg> where do i get a gcc-3.4 binary
[04:27] <timfrost> wckdkl0wn, in the cuirrent directory
[04:27] <lapducky> SweetestSavage, it writes all zeros to the first 512 bytes of /dev/hda  (if it will work)
[04:27] <Neurosis> Can someone help me?  I am in a license agreement on this install in my terminal.  how do i get pased i cant get passed it
[04:27] <nbound> ashyg, sounds like ur installing nvidia drivers, just use the ones in synaptic
[04:27] <ashyg> nbound: i am not installing nvidia drivers
[04:27] <ashyg> and i can't access synaptic
[04:27] <ashyg> because i don't have internet
[04:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Neurosis: hit space
[04:27] <lapducky> wckdkl0wn, whatever your working directory is set to -- you can find out by doing :$ pwd     <-- 'Print Working Directory'
[04:27] <Neurosis> nothing happens
[04:27] <titanium> anyone ever set up DDNS with a linksys router? i can't get it to enable
[04:27] <Neurosis> it just goes
[04:27] <ashyg> i've been trying to get ethernet working in some capacity for 30 hours straight, excepting sleep and class
[04:27] <Neurosis> beep
[04:27] <timfrost> ashyg, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 (and have you got build-essential installed?)
[04:28] <Neurosis> beep
[04:28] <wckdkl0wn> ok
[04:28] <ashyg> timfrost: i don't have the internet
[04:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Neurosis: Page down/arrow down?
[04:28] <Neurosis> yep
[04:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Neurosis: y?
[04:28] <Neurosis> it says END
[04:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Neurosis: Esc?
[04:28] <Neurosis> nope
[04:28] <Neurosis> dont work
[04:28] <dager> hit q or :q
[04:29] <nbound> ashyg, well ur gonna need it ;)
[04:29] <wckdkl0wn> this is the first time i used wine from the terminal
[04:29] <ashyg> okay, so let me understand this. To get my ethernet working I need to rebuild the kernel. To rebuild the kernel I need gcc-3.4. To get gcc-3.4 I need to get it off the internet. To get it off the internet my ethernet needs to work.
[04:29] <Neurosis> thank you dager
[04:29] <dager> :)
[04:29] <nbound> ashyg, what network card?
[04:30] <ashyg> uli m52 something something...
[04:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Wait... a license agreement that doesn't check if you agreed? O_o
[04:30] <lapducky> wckdkl0wn, I highly recommend that you start reading man pages.  The answers to all your questions so far are right near the top of the respective man pages.  E.g. do :$ man dd
[04:30] <ashyg> what was the command to view the devices on the system?
[04:30] <dager> the agreement opened up in vi(m), so it just assumed he read it.. probably had to agree once he got out of it
[04:30] <luisito> hello
[04:30] <timfrost> ashyg, lspci and lsusb
[04:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dager: Ah... I missed that part.
[04:31] <luisito> how can I know my IP?
[04:31] <dager> luisito: http://www.whatismyip.com
[04:31] <ashyg> nbound: ULi M5263
[04:31] <ashyg> nbound: there's a known issue in the linux kernel that has been fixed as of recent issues with that ethernet adaptor
[04:32] <ashyg> nbound: however the latest kernel is only in dapper.
[04:32] <ashyg> nbound: and i can't install dapper because it won't detect my PCI IDE drives
[04:32] <luisito> dager, can't it be with the terminal?
[04:32] <g3wn> nbound: yup its my cpu
[04:32] <wckdkl0wn> do a dns on ur self here in irc
[04:32] <dager> it can, but why complicate it?
[04:32] <lapducky> SweetestSavage, still there?  Do :$ cat /proc/partitions   # and pastebin the output
[04:32] <tonyyarusso> For anyone using an IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad (esp. T series, but any responses appreciated): What kind of battery life do you have, and what did you have to do to configure power management for it?
[04:32] <nbound> g3wn, do other shit and see if it changes at all
[04:33] <g3wn> k
[04:33] <nbound> g3wn, if not its just reading nothing
[04:33] <ashyg> nbound: do you know what can be done with this to get it working?
[04:33] <g3wn> well speedfan is reading 60o also
[04:33] <g3wn> so.. I think its right
[04:33] <nbound> ashyg, what ide controller are u using?
[04:33] <luisito> wckdkl0wn, ok thanks
[04:34] <ashyg> i have two devices that i can get online with and neither will work. My ULi M5263 wired ethernet and my D-Link DWL-G122 wireless USB adaptor
[04:34] <ashyg> nbound: some maxtor one, not sure
[04:34] <nbound> ashyg, u sure, i dont mean the drive itself
[04:34] <ashyg> yes i am positive
[04:34] <g3wn> nbound: I just powered down so I'm gonna open it up first and have a look
[04:34] <ashyg> i looked it up at the maxtor site before
[04:35] <ashyg> it's a PCI/SATA controller
[04:35] <ashyg> i am using the PCI on it however
[04:35] <nbound> g3wn, did it change at all though? if it didnt then its just reading nothing and 60 is like a default
[04:35] <_jason> my firefox crashes a lot (just freezes).  I believe I know the cause for this.  I use aoss to run firefox, so that flash will use alsa sound.  Sometimes, when I play a flash movie and stop it (maybe by navigating away from the page) during playback before it ends it will just freeze firefox forcing me to kill it.  Anyone know what could be causing this?  Could it be a problem with my alsa setup?
[04:36] <SweetestSavage> lapducky, it didn't work, the dd = thing
[04:36] <ashyg> nbound: the dapper installer sucks, it won't detect my PCI IDE drive controller however the breezy installer does
[04:36] <g3wn> nbound:well it was changing in the other program I tried... fom 57-60
[04:36] <ashyg> nbound: but that's not even an issue i want to get into right now, right now i just want my ethernet to work
[04:37] <nbound> g3wn, hmmm well have a look and clean out any dust and the like
[04:37] <g3wn> ya
[04:37] <SweetestSavage> lapducky, how to pastebin?
[04:37] <nbound> ashyg, well i had a look at the ULi site and cant even find any drivers for ur network card =/
[04:38] <nbound> which could have been helpful
[04:38] <g3wn> nbound:hmmm all looks fine although I never opened up a laptop before... weird cooling
[04:38] <lapducky> ubotu, tell SweetestSavage about pastebin
[04:39] <lapducky> load the URI the bot /MSGs you
[04:39] <SweetestSavage> Okay.
[04:39] <nbound> g3wn, hmmm... well spose u'll have to live with it :S
[04:39] <g3wn> ya
[04:39] <foxiness> j/ #fedora
[04:40] <foxiness> j/ #mandriva
[04:40] <nbound> but ive never had a PC hit 60o even on a 40+oC day
[04:40] <foxiness> hah
[04:40] <ashyg> nbound: read this article for a little information about the issue
[04:40] <ashyg> nbound: http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=34&threadid=1775103&enterthread=y
[04:40] <ashyg> that's the motherboard i have, the 939 dual sata2
[04:40] <g3wn> nbound; so 60c should not kill it though? like I have used very intense programs in windows and it just flys... better than my 1.5 desktop
[04:40] <SweetestSavage> lapducky, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7049
[04:41] <nbound> g3wn, thats coz its a Pentium M better architecture it can do more per clock cycle
[04:41] <g3wn> ya thats what I thought
[04:41] <nbound> g3wn, 60c will not kill it hough
[04:42] <riddlebox> you want to know something funny, I got wireless working so fast with ubuntu, but my windows laptop will not get onto the network, it says its connected but never pulls an ip
[04:42] <g3wn> kewl... cause I do audio and just bought a firewire audio interface for it :)
[04:42] <nbound> ashyg, i dont think i can help unfortunately =(
[04:43] <nbound> g3wn, oooh sounds kewl ;P
[04:43] <g3wn> nbound; should there be themal paste on the cpu? cause there is none.
[04:43] <ashyg> riddlebox: linux is networking hell
[04:44] <ashyg> riddlebox: horrid device support :(
[04:44] <ashyg> but it makes development so much easier
[04:44] <nbound> g3wn, yeah between the cpu and heatsink, UNLESS there is a thermal pad of some kind
[04:44] <nbound> on the heatsink that is
[04:45] <lapducky> SweetestSavage, that looks strange to me -- here I'll pastebin mine
[04:45] <ashyg> yea so i really need to get ethernet running... guess i'm going to buy a pci ethernet card
[04:45] <petdance> Any reason to not use the default partition table?
[04:45] <g3wn> nbound; k looks totally different than I'm use to... there is only a little square that touches the heatsync.
[04:45] <petdance> just for a grunt home box?
[04:45] <ashyg> is there any reason to run the 32 bit ubuntu rather than 64 bit on an AMD64?
[04:45] <emdash> does anyone here use mythv on ubuntu?
[04:45] <nbound> ashyg, to use wine
[04:45] <nbound> if u need it
[04:45] <ashyg> nbound: okay i'll stick to 32 bit then cause i might use wine
[04:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> petdance: No, defaults are good if you don't have anythign specific in mind.
[04:46] <ashyg> anyways how much is a pci ethernet controller and do you think a best buy in the ghetto would have one?
[04:46] <nbound> ashyg, some people have had wine running on 64 but its troublesome to setup
[04:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ashyg: A cheap one is about $7.
[04:46] <nbound> g3wn, so no thermal pad on bottom of heatsink?
[04:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> $7 CAD
[04:47] <nbound> and no thermal paste?
[04:47] <quidam> i, the ubuntu livecd have software for windows, i ant to know how i can change this system for build a livecd based on ubuntu
[04:47] <quidam> hi*
[04:47] <tomaj> is there a way to do network load balancing with ubuntu and two NICs?
[04:47] <Blippe> are there any masters of the universe in here?
[04:47] <petdance>  /nick Skeletor
[04:47] <Blippe> :D
[04:48] <tomaj> Blippe, i am
[04:48] <jo_e> hi.  i have just got a new monitor that can go to a resolution of 1280x1024, but the "screen resolution" dialogue only has options going up to 1024x768.  how can I get a higher resolution?
[04:48] <tomaj> well
[04:48] <quidam> i dont want remove this option, i just want change the list of package for windows
[04:48] <tomaj> Blippe, im the king
[04:48] <lapducky> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7050  <-- that was what I was hoping for, but since we're going to n00k the drive anyhow, i don't suppose it matters, SweetestSavage
[04:48] <quidam> can anybody help me?
[04:48] <nbound> jo_e try adding the extra resolutions in ur /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[04:48] <emdash> jo_e: oh
[04:48] <ajmitch> tomaj: really? I've never seen you in the motu channels :)
[04:48] <SweetestSavage> lapducky, ah.. I see.. well, both drives are pretty messed. I've tried to reformat and repartition them several times..
[04:48] <emdash> jo_e: you have to reconfigure your server
[04:48] <emdash> jo_e: it's not hard
[04:48] <jo_e> nbound, emdash, ok
[04:48] <ajmitch> Blippe: yes there are some MOTUs around
[04:48] <nbound> jo_e, if that dont work reconfigure ur xserver
[04:48] <jo_e> emdash, i've done it before
[04:49] <tomaj> ajmitch, i like to keep it quiet
[04:49] <tomaj> ajmitch, its annoying having people coming me asking for godmode
[04:49] <emdash> do dpkg-recongigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[04:49] <Raids> Can anyone tell me if there's much of a difference from the 86 iso and the amd64?
[04:49] <emdash> it will give you a list of resolutions
[04:49] <zho> dear all, how to upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[04:49] <nbound> Raids, what do u mean as in difference?
[04:49] <LinuxMonk> anyone here play cs?
[04:49] <emdash> jo_e: then you just reset X and you're good to go
[04:49] <Raids> I'm using a AMD Athlon 64, and was wondering if there's any advantages of getting the 64bit version
[04:49] <_jason> ubotu, tell zho about breezy
[04:49] <lapducky> SweetestSavage, :$ fdisk -ul /dev/hda
[04:50] <Blippe> ok... tomaj, well i did bug you about it, now i am finished :D
[04:50] <SweetestSavage> Raids, it has low support and is unstable. I don't recommend it personally.
[04:50] <tomaj> Blippe, lol
[04:50] <zho> ???thx... :D
[04:50] <ajmitch> Blippe: did you have a question for someon who's actually a MOTU? :)
[04:50] <emdash> hurr
[04:50] <nbound> Raids, a few small performance gains and the like... but wine is hard (impossible??) to set up on it
[04:50] <emdash> hope he got that
[04:50] <Raids> Alright. I have to stop downloading it right now then
[04:50] <Raids> lol
[04:51] <Raids> Should I download the DVD release?
[04:51] <tomaj> is there a way to do network load balancing with ubuntu and two NICs?
[04:51] <lapducky> SweetestSavage, I just had a thought on how to make this much easier for you.  Can you install gparted whilst booted to a live CD?
[04:51] <nbound> Raids, i know u can get wine 0.9.2 running on  it relatively easily
[04:51] <SweetestSavage> lapducky, it is installed
[04:51] <Blippe> :P yeah, i thought about bugging you for another peice of software in universe (picard tagger).
[04:51] <SweetestSavage> lapducky, I think I'm going to restart it's running very slow.
[04:51] <riddlebox> Raids:I was wondering that today, I found a system that I liked, but am not sure how everything runs on a AMD64
[04:51] <nbound> Raids, there is a howto floating round somewhere
[04:52] <ajmitch> Blippe: add it to wiki.ubuntu.com/UniverseCandidates
[04:52] <lapducky> okay, but this time
[04:52] <Raids> lol ok. if it's not as well supported i'll stay away
[04:52] <nbound> im running the AMD64 version
[04:52] <arrinmurr> Raids: the CD release has everything that's necessary. well, at least the kubuntu one does ;)
[04:52] <Blippe> ajmitch, ok
[04:52] <nbound> the only thing ive needed that i cant get is wine, (which i may try the 0.9.2 trick to get running later)
[04:53] <Raids> hmmm
[04:53] <ajmitch> Blippe: no promises can be made, but if someone's interested in packaging stuff that's where we point them
[04:53] <GameOver> using adept... i cant uninstall XMMS player without it uninstalling superkaramba as well.. how can i uninstall XMMS by itself?
[04:53] <lapducky> SweetestSavage, try 'expert' at the install prompt and select the SSH console module (if you like I'll try to ssh in and help -- you need to /dcc chat me a login of course)
[04:53] <dager> GameOver --> force it with apt-get
[04:53] <SweetestSavage> lapducky, alright
[04:53] <nbound> GameOver, u could uninstall xmms and reinstall superkaramba afterwards
[04:53] <GameOver> dager: apt-get remove?
[04:53] <arrinmurr> Raids: and you can always download the software that's missing
[04:54] <lapducky> (you select the installer components after several stages like selecting IDE drivers)
[04:54] <dager> apt-get remove --force (i think)
[04:54] <dager> its not pretty, but it works
[04:54] <dager> or skip dependencies, its been a while since i had to
[04:54] <ajmitch> GameOver: superkaramba depends on xmms, though, so it won't let you without doing Bad Things like --force
[04:54] <varsendagger> hey brad_teenbot
[04:54] <GameOver> why does it need xmms?
[04:54] <brad_teenbot> hey
[04:54] <Raids> alright. thanks for the advice everyone :)
[04:54] <ajmitch> GameOver: ie, you do that, you get to keep all the pieces
[04:55] <GameOver> i dont see the correlation
[04:55] <lapducky> If you know which chipsets that you *don't have* you can unselect all of those and have a slightly lighter kernel -- though it could make it harder to move the system drive across to a new motherboard in a migration/upgrade.
[04:55] <GameOver> i have a question.... is there something better than superkramba then?
[04:55] <ajmitch> GameOver: because some functionality in superkaramba requires xmms
[04:55] <varsendagger> hey guys my budy has a problem with his sound card ( it doesn't work ) can you help us out?
[04:55] <g3wn> nbound: oops sorry I msg'd
[04:55] <lapducky> SweetestSavage, I don't see your /msg
[04:56] <nbound> g3wn /msg's dont work if ur not registered, i cant send em either :P
[04:56] <GameOver> can anyone tell me how to replace the login screen with newer graphics in KDE?
[04:56] <g3wn> nbound:looks like there is a patch of thick themal paste on the heatsynch with the centre cut out that touches the part that bumps out of the centre of the cpu.
[04:56] <g3wn> nbound:don;t know how to explain it
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> GameOver,  theres KDM themes you can download and install
[04:57] <g3wn> nbound: I don't know if I should reapply themal to the centre or not... heh
[04:57] <varsendagger> hey brad_teenbot check out this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems?highlight=%28sound%29
[04:57] <nbound> g3wn, thats a kind of thermal pad
[04:57] <GameOver> dr_willis - i just want to change the login
[04:57] <arrinmurr> varsendagger: it's not found at all? or some particular programs don't work?
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> GameOver,  not sure what you mean.. could learn to make/modify the existing theme files.
[04:57] <nbound> g3wn, just put it back on
[04:58] <GameOver> dr_willis - i downloaded something just to change the login screen, but i dont know where to put the files
[04:58] <varsendagger> arrinmurr, i'm not sure, we tried to play a flash video and there was no sound
[04:58] <g3wn> nbound: ah... seems like that there was a thin bit of grease on the bump... but it wore out.
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> GameOver,  what kind of 'somthing' ?
[04:58] <GameOver> same thign with the bootsplash creen
[04:58] <varsendagger> and no sound with everything else
[04:58] <GameOver> from KDE-LOOK
[04:59] <arrinmurr> varsendagger: have you tried to kill esd?
[04:59] <varsendagger> arrinmurr, he is brad_teenbot and he is just learing how to use linux,
[04:59] <nbound> g3wn, u could put a TINY amount on the top of the bit that contacts the cpu that may help, remember the more u use the less efficient it is
[04:59] <varsendagger> no
[04:59] <varsendagger> lets try that
[04:59] <nbound> connacts the heatsink*
[04:59] <nbound> contacts**
[04:59] <g3wn> nbound: ya... the stuff that was on the cpu is silver tho... I have white. does it matter?
[05:00] <varsendagger> brad_teenbot, go and open a terminal and type this: sudo killall esd
[05:00] <GameOver> Dr Willis?
[05:00] <wckdkl0wn> i cant eject my cdrom by hand or sudo eject.. says its not mounted
[05:00] <varsendagger> 10-4?
[05:00] <nbound> g3wn, nope :)
[05:00] <g3wn> k
[05:00] <g3wn> I will try and put a bit on then
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> GameOver, you are refering to a KDM them it sounds like.
[05:00] <brad_teenbot> ok
[05:00] <LostFrog> The silver grease supposedly has slightly better properties.
[05:00] <brad_teenbot> thanks ill try that'
[05:00] <nbound> as little as possible
[05:00] <UbuntuNewbie> Quick question about Synaptic - if I install a package that demands a long list of supporting libraries, and then later un-install the package, do the support files get uninstalled automagically?
[05:00] <g3wn> LostFrog: ah
[05:01] <GameOver> DR. Willis - yes but its only for the login... and antoher for the boot splash
[05:01] <nbound> LostFrog, i think hes refering to the greyish thermal pads u find
[05:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> UbuntuNewbie: Not that I've noticed.
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> GameOver,  right they are totally unrelated things. :P
[05:01] <brad_teenbot> it sais "no process killed
[05:02] <g3wn> nbound: heh now I don't know how to clean that small square on the heatsink without bumping the themal pads greese!
[05:02] <techre> i have a file called "gnuchess" i want to run, and it says it's executable.  but when i double-click it, nothing happens...   what should i do?
[05:02] <g3wn> man this is funny
[05:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> techre: Try running it from the terminal... see if there's an error message.
[05:02] <nbound> g3wn, hmmm
[05:02] <GameOver> dr willis - so what do i do
[05:02] <UbuntuNewbie> PuMpErNiCkLe - thanks ... do you happen to know if Synaptic's history is searchable?
[05:02] <dooglus> techre: get xboard - that runs gnuchess for you, and presents a nice graphical interface
[05:02] <foulmouth> I heard that if I install Dapper that I've made the first step towards getting my airport extreme working, whats the next step?
[05:02] <techre> ok
[05:03] <brad_teenbot> varsendagger, its sais "no process killed"
[05:03] <nbound> g3wn, just do ur best and replace it and see if temps are any better
[05:03] <g3wn> nbound: ya sounds good.
[05:03] <arrinmurr> brad_teenbot: what if you type "alsamixer" ?
[05:03] <nbound> g3wn, if stuff overheats its not my fault btw :P
[05:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> UbuntuNewbie: Yes.  File -> History.
[05:04] <g3wn> I won't use alcohol etc.... to clean it
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> GameOver,  learn how to install the themes I guess.  I thought KDM had some theme configuration tool in the menus somewhere.
[05:04] <g3wn> nbound; don't say that! :)
[05:04] <brad_teenbot> Varsendagger its sais, function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[05:04] <wckdkl0wn> i cant eject my cdrom by hand or sudo eject.. says its not mounted  how do i eject it?
[05:04] <LostFrog> I use alcohol to clean the heat sink.
[05:04] <nbound> g3wn, what exactly are you doin to it?
[05:04] <UbuntuNewbie> PuMpErNiCkLe - thanks. (Um, and sorry, that was a dumb question. I ought to have looked more carefully.)
[05:04] <GameOver> dr Willis... but its not a theme
[05:04] <GameOver> dr willis - its something u have to manually replace
[05:05] <GameOver> and just back up the old files if u want
[05:05] <techre> i got the xboard tar.gz file, but i have no idea what to do with it.  apparently i'm not allowed to extract it into \usr\games
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> GameOver,  I dont have esp.. guess ya check the docs/web site ya got it from. or use 'find/locate' and search to see where the files are at.
[05:05] <g3wn> nbound:well I was just going to clean the cpu and apply a thin amount to it... I dont know about the heatsync tho
[05:05] <GameOver> ahhhh lol
[05:05] <dooglus> techre: you should install xboard using the synaptic package manager - it's under 'admin' on the 'system' menu
[05:06] <arrinmurr> brad_teenbot: maybe you could try to ask in #alsa . tell them what your sound card is
[05:06] <GameOver> dr willis... is there a better irc program for linux then just IRC CHAT?
[05:06] <techre> does software for linux exist which isn't in synaptic?  how would i install a tar.gz in that case?
[05:06] <dooglus> GameOver: irssi is good
[05:06] <orangey> hey all!
[05:06] <brad_teenbot> Ok, well im going to have to figure out which one it is lol
[05:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> UbuntuNewbie: np :)
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> GameOver,  theres dozens of irc clients. i tend to use "xchat" for X, and irssi. for console.
[05:06] <orangey> I'm having some troubles with my memory usage..
[05:06] <nbound> g3wn, yeah try that and see if its any better, if its worse u should probably get rid of all the old pad and replace it with some thermal paste like arctic silver
[05:06] <dooglus> techre: you can use "sudo" if you want to mess up the filesystem
[05:07] <tomaj> is there a way to do network load balancing with ubuntu and two NICs?
[05:07] <orangey> after only a few days of uptime, the memory (1 gb) is almost all used up.
[05:07] <g3wn> nbound: k, sounds good... thanks for the help
[05:07] <brad_teenbot> varsendagger, you wouldnt happen to remember what my soundcard is do ya?
[05:07] <GameOver> dr-Willis: alright ill check it out...... another question
[05:07] <arrinmurr> brad_teenbot: try to type "lspci" in terminal. maybe you can see your soundcard somewhere there
[05:07] <tomaj> i just want to know if its possible
[05:07] <brad_teenbot> ok
[05:07] <tomaj> is there a way to do network load balancing with ubuntu and two NICs? I just want to know if its possible
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> techre: See !source and !compile.
[05:07] <orangey> and little or none of it is in swap
[05:07] <foulmouth> anyone know about airport extreme?
[05:07] <GameOver> dr willis - i had mplayer... but it idnt handle STREAMING WMV......or Real Audio at all
[05:07] <techre> dooglus:   i searched for "xboard" in synaptic, and the only result was gnuchess, which i already installed
[05:07] <GameOver> i had the mozilla plugin as well
[05:08] <LostFrog> Maybe the package includes xboard already.
[05:08] <brad_teenbot> Arrinmurr, it is Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International Riptide PCI Aud
[05:08] <dooglus> techre: gnuchess is in 'main', xboard is in 'universe'.  you'll need to enable universe.  watch what ubuntu says now:
[05:08] <dooglus> !universe
[05:08] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:08] <varsendagger> brad_teenbot, i have to go but i'll be back in about an hour and a half, hopefully thes guys will be able to help you out, they are great
[05:08] <arrinmurr> brad_teenbot: ok, good. i know nothing about that one, but now you could try in #alsa :)
[05:09] <brad_teenbot> ok thanks alot for your help :)
[05:09] <brad_teenbot> ok
[05:09] <nbound> when dapper comes out will we have to dload a new ISO or will we be able to do a straight update?
[05:09] <dooglus> nbound: you can update
[05:10] <mr_daemon> Hey where the hell did nscd go? I can't apt-get it anymore...
[05:10] <nbound> dooglus, sweet :)
[05:10] <Kyral> update
[05:10] <dooglus> nbound: I've done it already :)
[05:10] <Toma-> nbound: if youre going to have to download 700mb of updates, wouldnt it be easier to simply get the ISO?
[05:10] <mr_daemon> I enabled multiverse and universe, apt-get update'ed and apt-get install nscd doesn't work
[05:10] <mr_daemon> No such package
[05:11] <nbound> Toma-, good point... and it would help to have an install disc too :P
[05:11] <Toma-> indeed
[05:11] <lapducky> wckdkl0wn, there must be a process locking it -- just one that doesn't bother to tell KDE or Gnome's VFS (or whatever UI you're using to see if it's mounted)
[05:11] <lapducky> You can also force umount (man umount).
[05:11] <Toma-> !info nscd
[05:11] <ubotu> nscd: (GNU C Library: Name Service Cache Daemon), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 2.3.5-1ubuntu12 (breezy), Packaged size: 117 kB, Installed size: 268 kB
[05:11] <foulmouth> so now one is up on the airport extreme info?
[05:11] <foulmouth> no one*
[05:11] <dooglus> Toma-: you're never going to have to update every package on the CD - nobody uses all the packages, surely
[05:11] <varsendagger> brad_teenbot,  do you know how to change channels
[05:11] <dooglus> Toma-: so it's more efficient to use apt-get to update just the packages you use
[05:11] <Toma-> dooglus: vanilla install installs just about all the packages
[05:12] <brad_teenbot> no i dont
[05:12] <mr_daemon> E: couldn't find package nscd
[05:12] <brad_teenbot> lol as you can tell im new at this lol
[05:12] <varsendagger> just type /j #alsa
[05:12] <Toma-> minus all the server packages
[05:12] <brad_teenbot> in the terminal?
[05:12] <varsendagger> and a new chat room will open up and then
[05:12] <mr_daemon> What the hell...
[05:12] <varsendagger> no no right here
[05:12] <brad_teenbot> #alsa
[05:12] <brad_teenbot> alsa
[05:12] <varsendagger> Brad /j
[05:13] <varsendagger> "/J #alsa
[05:13] <brad_teenbot> j
[05:13] <varsendagger> slash jay #alsa
[05:13] <mr_daemon> Can any one apt-cache nscd for kicks?
[05:13] <mr_daemon> just to see if I am the only one
[05:14] <varsendagger> brad_teenbot, now you can switch between rooms
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> !info nscd
[05:14] <ubotu> nscd: (GNU C Library: Name Service Cache Daemon), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 2.3.5-1ubuntu12 (breezy), Packaged size: 117 kB, Installed size: 268 kB
[05:14] <monzie> hi all
[05:14] <monzie> hi all
[05:14] <benplaut> !tell mr_daemon about repos
[05:14] <varsendagger> just ask a bunch of questions and they will teach you a bunch
[05:14] <kyo> hii
[05:14] <monzie> have got some problems with Ubuntu during compilation of gedit
[05:14] <varsendagger> brad_teenbot, when i get back i'll help you with the card
[05:15] <benplaut> mr_daemon: read what ubotu just PM'ed you
[05:15] <dooglus> mr_daemon: nscp has been in ubuntu for ages: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=nscd&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[05:15] <monzie> can anyone please help me out?
[05:15] <dooglus> monzie: sure
[05:15] <techre> dooglus:  i installed xboard, but i'm not sure how to run it...   it doesn't show up under the "games" menu
[05:15] <mr_daemon> dooglus: I enabled the multiverse and universe already... let me double check.
[05:16] <dooglus> techre: you can type "xboard" in a terminal
[05:16] <monzie> dooglus, i have breezy, with all standard devel packages installed
[05:16] <techre> i see
[05:16] <dooglus> techre: I added the debian menu - it's in there
[05:16] <Ricerrage> hey im havein alot of problems with the ubuntu cd's
[05:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mr_daemon: I can see the nscd package... you sure you have the universe repository enabled?
[05:16] <Ricerrage> i was wondering
[05:16] <Ricerrage> if anyone had any ideas
[05:16] <mr_daemon> PuMpErNiCkLe: it is...
[05:16] <dooglus> monzie: did you do a "sudo apt-get build-dep gedit"?
[05:16] <monzie> yes
[05:17] <monzie> dooglus,
[05:17] <mr_daemon> oh wait I figured it out.
[05:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mr_daemon: Did you do apt-get update after enabling it?
[05:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mr_daemon: Oh, good. :)
[05:17] <monzie> the problem is while doing autogen.sh, it gives me the following errors
[05:17] <mr_daemon> PuMpErNiCkLe: outside connection died in the middle of my update, so i didn't get a complete list. Thanks anyways guys
[05:17] <mr_daemon> chow.
[05:18] <dooglus> monzie: try just running "debian/rules build"
[05:18] <monzie> gnome-compiler-flags.m4 not found
[05:18] <monzie> although auto-apt shows me that its there
[05:18] <dooglus> monzie: sounds like you're using the wrong version of autocrap
[05:19] <monzie> what is debian/rules build dooglus ? and what is autocrap?
[05:19] <dooglus> monzie: debian/rules is a Makefile
[05:19] <dooglus> build is a target in that Makefile
[05:19] <dooglus> autocrap is a typo for autoconf
[05:19] <ITSa341> anyone willing to help me with ndiswrapper? I get an error when trying to compile from source.
[05:19] <monzie> it isnt there dooglus
[05:20] <timfrost> dooglus, shouldn't monzie run 'make -f debian/rules build' ???
[05:20] <dooglus> monzie: how did you get the source?  with apt-get source?  if not, get it that way
[05:20] <dooglus> timfrost: no need.  debian/rules has a hash-bang line
[05:20] <brad_teenbot> hi guys ..... my sound doesnt seem to be working and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions or anything my soundcard is Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International Riptide PCI Aud
[05:21] <dooglus> timfrost: $ head -1 debian/rules
[05:21] <dooglus> #!/usr/bin/make -f
[05:21] <monzie> no dooglus , i need to compile from CVS, i have to submit patches
[05:21] <dooglus> monzie: if you get the ubuntu source package, you can see how it's built by looking at the debian/rules
[05:22] <brad_teenbot> hi guys ..... my sound doesnt seem to be working and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions or anything my soundcard is Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International Riptide PCI Aud
[05:22] <monzie> Ubuntu is developer unfriendly in this regards
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> For anyone using an IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad (esp. T series, but any responses appreciated): What kind of battery life do you have, and what did you have to do to configure power management for it?
[05:22] <timfrost> dooglus, gotcha.   Haven't done any development on ubuntu yet
[05:22] <monzie> the ./autogen.sh script tells me to fix the ACLOCAL path, can you please tell me what exactly is that?
[05:22] <dooglus> monzie: I think the problem is with the different versions of autoconf being incompatible, but I don't know
[05:22] <ITSa341> tonyrusso  TP600e   I get about 25 to 30 minutes
[05:22] <Ricerrage> hey guys im having alot of problems installing from cd's the ISO's are fine i tested them in VMware but when i make CD's they dont burn right everytime
[05:23] <monzie> so that means i shouldn't use ubunty for development, isn't it/
[05:23] <techre> dooglus:   i got it working, thanks for the help   =)
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> Ricerrage,  try burning them at 1x :(
[05:23] <ITSa341> anyone willing to help me with ndiswrapper? I get an error when trying to compile from source.
[05:23] <Ricerrage> Dr_Willis you think that will help?
[05:24] <Bizzeh> hey, are these DEFINATLY installer dvds?
[05:24] <Bizzeh> http://ie.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-cdimage/releases/5.10/release/
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> Ricerrage,  ive herad it mentioned in here befor.. no idea whats the deal. but a lot of people seem to have issues with theubuntu cd iso files.
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> Ricerrage,  ive never had any problems however. :) I got a nice Plextor Burner.
[05:25] <guinpen> does anyone have any problems with GCC?
[05:25] <nbound> Bizzeh, yep :)
[05:25] <jbz_> cw=R%PHFtRBFY
[05:25] <jbz_> cw=R%LKU$N?PKNRPANFP3N4TPOB
[05:25] <jbz_> cw=R%@+RUN[PzOQ
[05:25] <Ricerrage> dr_willis, how do you make it talk to me?
[05:25] <jbz_> cw=R%U+N0PSLdT9If
[05:25] <jbz_> cw=R%J$TQNMPfN[P\NZP^LzQI
[05:25] <Bizzeh> nbound: and it WILL install properly?
[05:25] <jbz_> cw=R%QiNXS'NQU^N0PfN=PfM-
[05:25] <guinpen> i'm trying to compile 855resolution, and it's spewing a lot of errors about n ot being able to find standard header files like stdio.h, even though i installed GCC
[05:25] <jbz_> cw=R%O/PqNZPfN\T9NQPSJ2PuLw
[05:25] <guinpen> anyone know what it might be
[05:25] <monzie> just checked, i have autoconf 2.59a-3
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> Ricerrage,  huh?
[05:25] <nbound> Bizzeh, yep cant see why not, but if not just use an installer cd
[05:25] <jbz_> cw=Z] UYN/PpN\P{NoPgNZSmLK
[05:25] <Bizzeh> nbound: no cds
[05:25] <jbz_> cw=Z] VdNBPxNcPoN[P^NISpMW
[05:25] <jbz_> cw=Z] MiTBNZP{NePpLXPoJ#
[05:25] <jbz_> cw=Z] NiTFNqPsNSRhM@T@NdQ+
[05:25] <Bizzeh> thats why i have to get a dvd
[05:25] <brad_teenbot> hi guys ..... my sound doesnt seem to be working and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions or anything my soundcard is Multimedia audio controller: Rockwell International Riptide PCI Aud
[05:25] <jbz_> cw=Z] P'NfPhNdPeLkS0NdR{N=Tr
[05:26] <jbz_> cw=Z] PUN)P{NfP{KePpNfPqN\TXNRPqOu
[05:26] <jbz_> cw=Z] J/Q-Ac
[05:26] <Ricerrage> Dr_willis, do you just type my name every time?
[05:26] <monzie> so what the hell is this ACLOCAL and ACLOCAL-FLAGS that i need to set?
[05:26] <sampan> i think jbz_ 's cat is sitting on his/her keyboard
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> Ricerrage,  i type 'ri <tab> ' :P
[05:26] <Ricerrage> oh
[05:26] <Ricerrage> Dr_Willis, oh ok
[05:26] <guinpen> anyone know anything about my problem with the headers?
[05:26] <nbound> Bizzeh, the time u save goin to a shop for a pack of blank cds will make up for the extra dload time of a dvd
[05:26] <Ricerrage> Dr_Willis, i didnt know that trick
[05:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> I think jbz is a perl programmer :o
[05:26] <Bizzeh> nbound: its half 4 in the morning
[05:26] <Bizzeh> i download dvd now
[05:26] <sampan> lol pumpernickle :)
[05:26] <Bizzeh> it will be waiting when i wake up
[05:27] <nbound> Bizzeh, oh okiez, ur like 12hrs behind me :P
[05:27] <Ricerrage> Dr_Willis, well i ordered cds pressed but im gonna try to burn but i had a nice BENQ dvd burner
[05:27] <Bizzeh> you might be 12 hours behind me :P
[05:27] <monzie> Is there any developer in this room who uses Ubuntu for development tasks?
[05:27] <nbound> Bizzeh, well 11
[05:27] <arrinmurr> brad_teenbot: see this thread, and especially the last message http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=324273
[05:27] <ITSa341> anyone willing to help me with ndiswrapper? I get an error when trying to compile from source. "make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop."
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> Ricerrage,  yea - for some reason a lot of peoplke have issues with reading the cd's - not sure what the deal is. or if theres just a lot of cruddy cd drives out there.
[05:28] <Bizzeh> nbound: what day is it there? thursday or friday?
[05:28] <Ricerrage> Dr_Willis, yah i have had a bad burn on like 8 disk
[05:28] <nbound> Bizzeh, friday
[05:29] <Bizzeh> then your ahead of me :)
[05:29] <nbound> Bizzeh, im in australia :P
 Turn off your dumb encryption
[05:29] <Bizzeh> shhh
[05:29] <timfrost> ITSa341, if you *must* build it, install linux-headers($uname -r) as well as build-essential and gcc-3.4
[05:29] <Bizzeh> dont mention australia
[05:29] <Bizzeh> gf wont shut up moanin about wanting to go back on holiday there
[05:29] <nbound> hehehe
[05:30] <ITSa341> timfrost   thx,
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> "gf wont shut up moanin"   sounds better...
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> Gotta love Quotes taken out of context.
[05:30] <timfrost> ITSa341, try linux-header-$(uname -r)
[05:30] <majd> hey
[05:30] <cycom> I think I'd prefer being able to say 'gf moanin.'
[05:30] <cycom> but that's ok
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> Once you marry her - she wont moan any more - she will be *&#&@&^@ing.
[05:31] <Bizzeh> Dr_Willis: its more like, cant stop moanin, when its in that context
[05:31] <majd> does ubuntu update just the system, the packet list, or just what programs have available updates?
[05:32] <nbound> majd, the first and last afaik
[05:32] <g3wn> nbound: just cleaned the cpu and the heatsync (best that I could) and booted xp... seems to be running cooler...50c now :)
[05:32] <majd> ok cool
[05:32] <majd> thanks
[05:32] <majd> i'm lovin ubuntu
[05:33] <Bizzeh> i would love ubuntu
[05:33] <Bizzeh> if it would install
[05:33] <g3wn> 53c now.
[05:33] <techre> what's a good mp3 player to get for ubuntu?
[05:33] <majd> bizzeh: i got the whole system setup with all my software in a few hours
[05:33] <nbound> g3wn, well thats better than 60... ive never seen mine over 45 :P
[05:33] <majd> and i'm as much of a newbie as can be
[05:33] <Bizzeh> g3wn: im runing a amd64 x2 4200 with stock fan and hs, and i never see it above 40c
[05:34] <Bizzeh> majd: its not me, its the dvd and the cd i got last times
[05:34] <_smd_> ok i re did the upload to breezy again back in Nov or Dec because of a whole lot of errors ie "out of frequency range for my monitor",   and i had no rez problems when my monitor went into sleep mod again  until today.... i havent changed anything since then except i did go to  a bigger rez whjen i moved my computer and moved it back up and made it back to my norm... now when my monitor goes it to sleep mode it is telling me "out of frequen
[05:34] <Bizzeh> dvd just wouldnt do anything
[05:34] <majd> can anyone point me to a good tutorial on how the linux file system works/
[05:34] <majd> i don't get it
[05:34] <Bizzeh> and the cd kept crashing at network setup
[05:34] <monzie> What is the best distro to use for programmers?
[05:34] <majd> bizzeh: weird....mine worked fine
[05:34] <monzie> i earlier used RH Desktop and it worked fine for me.
[05:34] <Bizzeh> i should water cool and overclock this 4200 to a fx-60
[05:35] <Bizzeh> its only another 400mhz
[05:35] <nbound> majd, ull pick up the file system quick dont worry bout it
[05:35] <majd> ok cool
[05:35] <g3wn> nbound: hmm it's going up now... it's at 60 damn and the fan kick on.
[05:35] <majd> my biggest problem is that stuff gets saved, but i don't know where it gets saved
[05:35] <nbound> majd, as for mp3's theres a few extra codecs u should get to play shit with
[05:35] <majd> and i don't know where app files go
[05:35] <arrinmurr> brad_teenbot: it seems that the soundcard you have is very old, and is not well supported (actually, not supported at all by ALSA) under linux. see http://www.livejournal.com/community/gentoo/252842.html and http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-334508.html
[05:35] <nbound> majd, depends what app, but they all sort themselves out
[05:35] <monzie> my biggest problem is that Ubuntu wont let me become a GNOME developer!
[05:36] <nbound> !multimedia
[05:36] <ubotu> I guess multimedia is for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[05:36] <nbound> majd, what ubuntu said is where u can get some codecs and stuff
[05:36] <nbound> ubotu*
[05:36] <techre> if i have mp3s on an NTFS partition, can i access them from ubuntu?
[05:37] <tonyyarusso> !tell techre about ntfs
[05:37] <nbound> techre, yep u should be able to
[05:37] <majd> ok cool
[05:37] <nbound> techre, i think :S
[05:37] <monzie> actually you cant do much with an NTFs partition techre , but you can read data from it
[05:37] <techre> so i could copy them into a folder on my ubuntu desktop or something
[05:37] <Bizzeh> thats gonna change when reactos start their ntfs driver
[05:38] <monzie> anyone in this room who has successfully compiled some GNOME stuff from cvs?
[05:38] <monzie> xChecking for required M4 macros...
[05:38] <monzie>   gnome-compiler-flags.m4 not found
[05:38] <monzie>   libtool.m4 not found
[05:38] <monzie>   glib-gettext.m4 not found
[05:38] <monzie>   intltool.m4 not found
[05:38] <monzie>   pkg.m4 not found
[05:38] <monzie> Checking for forbidden M4 macros...
[05:38] <monzie> ***Error***: some autoconf macros required to build gedit
[05:38] <Bizzeh> anyone in this room who would want to compile gnome?
[05:38] <Bizzeh> noope
[05:38] <monzie>   were not found in your aclocal path, or some forbidden
[05:38] <monzie>   macros were found.  Perhaps you need to adjust your
[05:38] <nbound> everything will change once reactos starts gettin compatible with most things
[05:38] <monzie>   ACLOCAL_FLAGS?
[05:38] <nbound> monzie, USE PASTEBIN
[05:38] <bluefoxicy> What size journal does Ubuntu use for JFS roots?
[05:38] <monzie> sorry nbound
[05:39] <monzie> can someone please help?
[05:39] <dooglus> monzie: did you install 'gnome-common'?
[05:40] <monzie> lemme check dooglus
[05:40] <monzie> yes dooglus , its there
[05:41] <monzie> in fact the .m4 files are there too, somehow it refuses to find them
[05:41] <dooglus> monzie: I'll try building gedit from CVS
[05:41] <_jason> monchichi, you are trying to compile gedit?
[05:41] <monzie> okay dooglus
[05:44] <nbound> anyone know where i can get the q3 linux installer?
[05:44] <monzie> any luck dooglus ?
[05:44] <Eleaf> oi
[05:45] <Eleaf> Why is everything so slow...
[05:45] <Eleaf> Whenever I do startx.  But not when X loads up from boot
[05:45] <ITSa341> timfrost I got the packages you recommended installed and all it did was change the error message. Got time to help me a bit?
[05:45] <monzie> i am , _jack
[05:45] <monzie> i am . _jason
[05:45] <Eleaf> like to open the menu in OO.org takes a few minutes..... o.o
[05:45] <Eleaf> but is instant when booted normally
[05:45] <nbound> so restart then =P
[05:45] <Eleaf> lol
[05:46] <Eleaf> X doesn't load when I restart
[05:46] <Eleaf> for some reason
[05:46] <Eleaf> whenever ubuntu crashes
[05:46] <dooglus> monzie: step 1 accomplished.  (getting anon CVS access!)
[05:46] <techre> i'm having a hard time figuring out how to play my mp3s under ubuntu...    i mounted the ntfs partition i need, but i'm not sure what i can use to play the mp3
[05:46] <monzie> techre, you can use totem
[05:46] <nbound> !multimedia
[05:46] <ubotu> I heard multimedia is for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[05:46] <dooglus> monzie: $ ./autogen.sh
[05:46] <dooglus> You need to install gnome-common from the GNOME CVS
[05:46] <nbound> techre, use the codecs mentioned at the sites ubotu says
[05:47] <techre> ok, thank you
[05:47] <monzie> okay... the gnome common module  from the CVS tree!
[05:47] <Madpilot> techre: there's a lot of media players in Ubuntu - Totem & Rythymbox are both good & default, and there's lots more in the repos
[05:47] <monzie> thank you dooglus '
[05:47] <dooglus> monzie: did you do that?
[05:47] <nbound> xmms is a good one for mp3's
[05:48] <Eleaf> but anyways, why is startx so much slower than starting from kdm etc.  ?
[05:48] <monzie> no dooglus , i got only the gedit module from cvs
[05:48] <nbound> but i use totem usually
[05:48] <monzie> how did you know that dooglus ? that we had to get the gnome-common module/
[05:48] <grayhane> anyone know how to list all the files in all the lower directories from the command line ?
[05:48] <monzie> beep-media-player rocks, nbound
[05:48] <monzie> and rythmbox sucks
[05:49] <dooglus> monzie: I ran "./autogen.sh" in the gedit dir and it told me.
[05:49] <dooglus> monzie: don't tell the ops, but that was a direct copy/paste
[05:49] <monzie> it doesn't give any such message to me dooglus
[05:49] <Eleaf> this is going so slow with startx.  45 minutes just to print something...  really weird.
[05:50] <techre> urg...   i forgot how to add the multiverse repository
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> monzie, Curious on what you base the media player choice.
[05:50] <dooglus> monzie: I don't think I can go any further.  I'm running dapper.  I don't want to run "make install" on the gnome-common without checkinstall to let me remove it again, and checkinstall is broken on breezy
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> !multiverse
[05:50] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:50] <dooglus> on dapper
[05:50] <kernel_> :S
[05:50] <monzie> its ok dooglus , thanks for your help
[05:50] <kernel_> I'm banned from this channel.
[05:50] <cityismine> Hey can ubuntu run on transmeta crusoe cpus
[05:50] <kernel_> cya
[05:50] <grayhane> How do I get a listing of all the files in the directories below the pwd ?
[05:51] <monzie> why so tonyyarusso ?
[05:51] <dooglus> monzie: ooh, I don't have the ubuntu gnome-common package installed
[05:51] <sergio__> hi, does anybody knows the website of WINE?
[05:51] <_jason> monzie, dooglus: it's compiling here fine, all I did was install the gedit build-dep's
[05:51] <dooglus> monzie: that's why I got the message and you didn't.
[05:51] <_jason> dooglus, checkinstall is broken in breezy?
[05:51] <nbound> sergio__, www.winehq.com
[05:52] <tonyyarusso> monzie, Just to ask.  (And see if there's something I don't know.)
[05:52] <sergio__> thanks
[05:52] <dooglus> _jason: in dapper, sorry.
[05:52] <monzie> dooglus, _jason : I have build-deps and gnome-common installed
[05:52] <_jason> dooglus, oops, yeah just read your next line ;P  had me worried I couldn't remove all my checkinstall packages
[05:53] <monzie> did you get the source from cvs dooglus ?
[05:53] <_jason> monchichi, all I did was 'sudo apt-get build-dep gedit'
[05:53] <_jason> monzie, ^
[05:54] <monzie> i did that too _jason , long long ago
[05:54] <dooglus> monzie: after installing gnome-common it seems to work.
[05:54] <monzie> its not working on my sys
[05:54] <Eleaf> is nobody listening to me?
[05:54] <wckdkl0wn> has anyone here installed ati vid drivers?
[05:55] <monzie> i think i'll just do a complete reinstall of my sys
[05:55] <dooglus> monzie: here's the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7053
[05:55] <_jason> Eleaf, we probably just don't know the answer
[05:55] <dooglus> monzie: that's on the CVS source, with the ubuntu gnome-common and build-deps
[05:55] <puff> Hm, my camera isn't showing up in /media.
[05:55] <dooglus> monzie: on the CVS source for gedit
[05:55] <puff> When I plug the usb cable in... is there any way to explicitly mount it?
[05:56] <wckdkl0wn> acn someone tell me which one i download on ubuntu with all updates    https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27
[05:56] <wckdkl0wn> i am having issues with my vid card with cedega
[05:56] <wckdkl0wn> so i was gonna update vid drivers
[05:56] <Eleaf> _jason, well, how do I kill open office.  Every time I hit quit, just an empty box comes up that says "OK" and a bunch of glitches...
[05:57] <_jason> Eleaf, you are using breezy?  that is really strange
[05:57] <monzie>  okay, dooglus
[05:57] <monzie> seems like your compile went past the macros stage just fine
[05:57] <Eleaf> _jason, it only does this because I'm running with "startx"
[05:58] <nbound> Eleaf, apps->system->sys monitor->and end the openoffice process :)
[05:58] <dooglus> monzie: yeah.  paste your output - let's see where it differs
[05:58] <Eleaf> _jack, startx makes it so I cannot print, it prints with huge scanlines, and messes up my whole gui
[05:58] <Eleaf> nbound, I wanna do it from the termianl... xp lol
[05:58] <Eleaf> nbound, for instance, how can I limit what i see in top?
[05:58] <_jason> Eleaf, 'xkill' and click on the app.
[05:59] <techre> do i have to do the whole "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" thing again in order to be able to set monitor refresh rates higher than 60hz?
[05:59] <Eleaf> hmm
[05:59] <monzie> okay dooglus , just a min
[05:59] <_jason> Eleaf, or ps aux | grep open | grep office, I guess and then kill those processes
[05:59] <nbound> limit what you see on top? :S sorry i only read the last few posts
[05:59] <Eleaf> well if I didn't have access to a gui _jason but thanks, that's good to know
[06:00] <Eleaf> alright, thanks _jason ! :)
[06:00] <K_Dallas> Hi guys! Anyone knows if there is a package for ubuntu of this program, HandBrake http://handbrake.m0k.org/ ?
[06:00] <K_Dallas> they seem to have a deb for Sid which is not supposed to work on ubuntu
[06:01] <yggdrasil> Hey guys whats happen
[06:01] <monzie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7054 dooglus
[06:01] <yggdrasil> is anyone here good with fluxbox ?
[06:01] <ITSa341> anyone willing to help me with ndiswrapper? I get an error when trying to compile from source.
[06:01] <Mabus06> techre, you can manually edit your xorg.conf... but back it up first
[06:02] <_jason> monzie, do you have build-essential?
[06:02] <techre> Mabus06:  where do i find that file?
[06:02] <monzie> yes _jason
[06:02] <puff> Any idea how to get UBuntu to notice my USB camera?
[06:02] <nbound> puff, dig cam or web cam
[06:03] <Mabus06> techre, /etc/X11
[06:03] <dooglus> monzie: that's my paste, not yours :)
[06:03] <yggdrasil> xorg.conf
[06:03] <puff> nbound: digicam.
[06:03] <puff> fuji finepix.
[06:03] <namly> Hello! Cound someone tell me wether Weblogic works on Ubuntu ? Thank you !!
[06:03] <Psi-Jack> Anyone know of any good decent dvd ripping programs?
[06:03] <Mabus06> puff, that's a rather difficult procedure
[06:03] <nbound> puff, it should work straight out of the box with it
[06:03] <Mabus06> Psi-Jack, nope... let me know if you find out though.
[06:03] <puff> namly: I can't imagine any reason weblogic wouldn't work.
[06:03] <Madpilot> puff: plug it in, start gthumb, try the "file --> import from camera" option
[06:03] <monzie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7054 is my paste dooglus , just did it!
[06:03] <puff> namly: Java works just fine on ubuntu, weblogic should work just fine.
[06:04] <Psi-Jack> Mabus06: Oh, BTW. fglrx worked out pretty good.. ;)
[06:04] <ray_> how do i mount a second hard drive (dev/hdb)?
[06:04] <nbound> puff, ill try my finepix with linux :)
[06:04] <puff> Madpilot: It doesn't show up under /media.
[06:04] <dooglus> monzie: sorry.  fscking stupid linux copy/paste!
[06:04] <monzie> its okay, dooglus
[06:04] <yggdrasil> is anyone here good with fluxbox ?
[06:04] <Mabus06> Psi-Jack, good. Try 'fglrxconfig' if you want to setup dual monitors or otherwise modify your settings. But again, backup your xorg.conf first.
[06:04] <puff> I've seen this before, with my archos mp3 player;  every now and then it doesn't auto-mount.
[06:04] <Psi-Jack> Mabus06: No dual monitors, but yeah. :)
[06:04] <yggdrasil> puff did you try sudo mount -a ?
[06:05] <dooglus> monzie: line 9: ***Error***: You must have automake >= 1.8 installed - install automake1.9
[06:05] <Mabus06> Psi-Jack, you should get an s-video cable and set dual head up. I'm lovin' it.
[06:05] <monzie> eureka!! i am through!
[06:05] <namly> On  Beasystem, there is only Weblogic 's version for Redhat not Ubuntu
[06:05] <puff> yggdrasil: No, but I tried it just now, no change.
[06:05] <yggdrasil> that sucks
[06:05] <ashyg> GRUB loading, please wait... Error 21
[06:05] <puff> namly: Is it an rpm?
[06:05] <ashyg> what's that mean
[06:05] <puff> namly: What about weblogic for solaris?
[06:05] <monzie> one of the plus points of pastebin, you can actually see the entire ouput in peace dooglus
[06:06] <ray_> does anyone know how to mount a second hard drive (dev/hdb)?
[06:06] <monzie> i was thinking it was some problem with my macros,
[06:06] <dsgx> How did I put information about uptime, my hardware etc
[06:06] <Mabus06> puff, I had to install spca5xx iirc in order to get my usb camera working.
[06:06] <dsgx> in my desktop
[06:06] <puff> namly: I believe there's support for using an rpm under ubuntu, but I haven't tried it.
[06:06] <namly> For Solaris ? I don't know
[06:06] <Madpilot> !tell ray_ about mount
[06:06] <Mabus06> puff, to convert rpm to deb use alien
[06:06] <Psi-Jack> Mabus06: With what?I got too many computers, and not a single TV.
[06:06] <nbound> puff, my fine pix works straight out :)
[06:06] <ashyg> How can I repair my MBR?
[06:06] <puff> Mabus06: It worked for an hour or two tongiht, but then suddenly stopped working.
[06:07] <Psi-Jack> Mabus06: My "Dual monitor" concept is, use multiple compyters. :)
[06:07] <puff> namly: MAbus06 sez:  to convert rpm to deb use alien
[06:07] <foampeace> !ubotu jre
[06:07] <ubotu> foampeace: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[06:07] <foampeace> !ubotu java
[06:07] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:07] <Mabus06> Psi-Jack, well I'd reccomend getting a dvd.
[06:07] <Mabus06> Um
[06:07] <Mabus06> I meant tv
[06:07] <foampeace> !javadebs
[06:07] <ray_> thanks madpilot. i'm checking it out now. i appreciate it
[06:07] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun (i386) debs here: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl IBM (PPC) debs here: http://giannaros.org/buntu/breezy.  UNOFFICIAL debs of more recent JRE's can be found in Seveas's repositories.  See wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:07] <techre> mabus06:   the options i see in xorg.conf that look relevant are      HorizSync  28-49   and   VertRefresh 43-72.   i'm not sure what the maximum refresh rate of my monitor is, or how to set it in this file.
[06:07] <puff> foampeace: Are those real java debs?
[06:07] <monzie> now i see, thanks to pastebin, that it was some problems with my automake
[06:07] <monzie> thanks dooglus
[06:07] <puff> foampeace: I've never had much luck with java debs, I just get the tar file and install it manually.
[06:08] <foampeace> puff: i need java for my web browser
[06:08] <monzie> thanks _jason
[06:08] <puff> foampeace: Ah, for your browser... never really tried that.
[06:08] <lapducky> !tell lapducky about backports
[06:08] <foampeace> how come we dont have 1.5 yet?
[06:08] <puff> foampeace: I'm a java developer.
[06:08] <_jason> monchichi, is it working after that?
[06:08] <Mabus06> techre, its a config file, so it shouldn't be too hard to find what you want to change and change it (say it says 'refresh rate' or something and it's at 60, put it to what you want)
[06:08] <foampeace> puff: firefox 1.5
[06:08] <yggdrasil> i need to find a how to on making a flux box menu
[06:08] <Mabus06> techre, but I'd strongly reccomend either reading your monitor's manual or looking it up on the net. You don't want to strain/burn your monitor.
[06:08] <foampeace> puff: how come we dont have it yet?
[06:08] <foampeace> in the repos
[06:08] <puff> foampeace: I have no idea.
[06:09] <wckdkl0wn> can someone here help me with video drivers... no one is doing anything in #ati
[06:09] <puff> foampeace: I really need to learn how to make debs, so I can give back to the community.
[06:09] <Mabus06> wckdkl0wn, be more specific, I use an ATI card myself but I'm no guru.
[06:09] <nbound> !ati
[06:09] <ubotu> hmm... ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[06:09] <foampeace> puff: oh...theres a way. you have to join the masters of the universe
[06:09] <wckdkl0wn> Mabus06, i need to know which one to download on ati's site for a radeon 9800 pro
[06:09] <Madpilot> foampeace: because FF has massive dependencies; also because the released versions of Ubuntu aren't updated once released
[06:09] <nbound> wckdkl0wn, ubotu has it all :)
[06:10] <Mabus06> wckdkl0wn, just use fglrx
[06:10] <_br0k3n_r4v3n_> Is autopackage good?
[06:10] <foampeace> !ubotu motu
[06:10] <ubotu> motu is probably the Masters of the Universe ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU )
[06:10] <Mabus06> nbound, there are an infinite number of questions that cant be answered by that single-topic page
[06:10] <foampeace> puff: go there
[06:10] <wckdkl0wn> nbound, right but which driver do i download  on this site for this version of ubuntu https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27
[06:11] <nbound> wckdkl0wn, linux 64bit or 32?
[06:11] <fangorious> does konqueror (3.5) have a scrolling mode like firefox and ie?
[06:11] <nbound> and onboard or not?
[06:11] <wckdkl0wn> nbound, 32
[06:11] <Mabus06> wckdkl0wn, use fglrx as I said
[06:12] <nbound> and better than an 8500?
[06:12] <wckdkl0wn> 9800 pro
[06:12] <nbound> https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27
[06:13] <lapducky> wckdkl0wn, don't d/l anything from ATI do what Mabus06 said (the driver is already in the Ubuntu repository -- just use apt-get or Synaptic to install it)
[06:13] <wckdkl0wn> ok
[06:13] <nbound> wckdkl0wn, from there ur on ur own... i use nvidia cards myself... but use the package fglrx that someone mentioned earlier MUCH EASIER
[06:13] <Mabus06> fglrxconfig makes it easy to configure your driver, too
[06:14] <techre> during ubuntu installation, it asked me for my name so it could set up a secondary account or something, but now i can't get root access
[06:14] <Mabus06> techre, root is disabled by default
[06:14] <ITSa341> techre   use sudo
[06:14] <Mabus06> use 'sudo' before any commands you need to perform as root
[06:14] <nbound> techre, become a super user to do root stuff
[06:14] <techre> i need root to edit the xorg.conf
[06:14] <techre> ah
[06:14] <Mabus06> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:14] <foampeace> how do i fix this in synpatic? W: GPG error: http://users.lichtsnel.nl breezy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[06:15] <Mabus06> foampeace, go to the source o matic page, and do what it says to add gpg keys... add the one for seveas' repo
[06:15] <Mabus06> !easysource
[06:15] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:15] <foampeace> Mabus06: k thanks
[06:15] <Mabus06> np
[06:15] <Mabus06> Whew, I'm on a roll today.
[06:16] <Psi-Jack> Any DVD ripping suggestions? My preference is to be able to rip just the main movie itself, transcode to xvid. If it has AC3 5.1, keep it, rip the subtitles, forced and unforced, and combine all the streams into an MKV. And if there's only 2-channel audio, I'd rather convert that to Ogg Vorbis, so it's even smaller.
[06:16] <nbound> anyone know anywhere i can get the quake 3 linux installer other than idgames ftp, its slow as crap :(, and anyone know if it'll run on x86_64
[06:16] <tyler> i need help, i cannot play wmv files with mplayer?
[06:16] <Mabus06> !restrictedformats
[06:16] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:16] <nbound> !restricted formats
[06:16] <ubotu> methinks restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[06:17] <Mabus06> tyler, read that page
[06:17] <Mabus06> nbound, I win. ;)
[06:17] <nbound> awwww :( :P
[06:17] <Mabus06> nbound, is quake 3 free?
[06:18] <Mabus06> or easily made to be *cough*
[06:18] <nbound> the installer is, just installs linux binaries
[06:18] <nbound> then use ur cd for the data
[06:18] <nbound> and yes i have a cd ;)
[06:18] <Mabus06> ah
[06:18] <Mabus06> I know Doom 3 works without a CD.
[06:19] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, no suggestions eh?
[06:19] <Mabus06> You just have to click 'cancel' when it asks for the CD key. Real brilliant programmers at ID, I guess.
[06:19] <nbound> yeah i think q3 does too u just need it for install
[06:19] <Mabus06> About what sorry, Psi-Jack ?
[06:19] <phiqtion> is there a good disk defragmenter for linux that will defragment NTFS as well?
[06:19] <Psi-Jack> Mabus06: Well, you already said you don't do DVD ripping, so. :)
[06:19] <Mabus06> Oh right.
[06:19] <fangorious> Psi-Jack: isn't there a package called dvdrip?
[06:19] <Mabus06> No I didn't say I don't do it. I'm actuallly in the same boat as you.
[06:19] <nbound> lol
[06:19] <Psi-Jack> phiqtion: Linux type partitions don't need defragging.
[06:19] <Psi-Jack> phiqtion: And Linux's NTFS support is not safe.
[06:20] <Psi-Jack> fangorious: Yes. I'm trying it out now, but.. It's painfully slow.
[06:20] <nbound> phiqtion, linux supports NTFS as read-only afaik :)
[06:20] <Psi-Jack> Mabus06: Ahhh, I see.
[06:20] <Mabus06> Psi-Jack, I did find a package to rip dvds once. But it had no gui so I didn't use it and forgot what it was. Maybe it was the dvdrip package fangorious mentioned.
[06:20] <phiqtion> Psi-Jack: so, in windows, what program can you reccomend me to defrag?
[06:20] <Psi-Jack> nbound: It HAS write support, but it's probably still experimental.
[06:20] <fangorious> Psi-Jack: any other packages in the same category in synaptic?
[06:20] <nbound> Psi-Jack, thanx i didnt know that :)
[06:20] <Psi-Jack> Mabus06: dvdrip is a perl-gtk program.
[06:21] <nbound> phiqtion, just use disk defragmenter in windows
[06:21] <Psi-Jack> fangorious: synaptic?
[06:21] <phiqtion> nbound: it won't defrag anything in a FAT32 file system. so i converted it to NTFS and it's worse!
[06:21] <nbound> mabus did u try <package name> --help   ?????
[06:21] <Mabus06> Psi-Jack, synaptic is a GUI for apt-get
[06:22] <Psi-Jack> Mabus06: Oh... Hmm. I use Adept..
[06:22] <fangorious> Psi-Jack: a gui front-end to apt, that can list packages in categories, so find the category with dvdrip, and there might be some other choices there
[06:22] <wassup> on the old ntfs no write issue.... is it possible to make a partition for just data (not windows os) that both windows & linux can write and read to
[06:22] <nbound> phiqtion, windows defrag will defrag any filesystem windows supports
[06:22] <phiqtion> ok
[06:22] <Madpilot> wassup: both Win & Linux can read/write FAT32
[06:23] <wassup> thanks Madpilot
[06:23] <nbound> and FAT(16)
[06:23] <wassup> is there any major disadvantages to having say a 60GB partition of FAT32?
[06:23] <lapducky> And through emulation NTFS
[06:23] <varsendagger> hey here is a note on FAT for some reason if you format a partition FAT you can't have it be like a /home directory
[06:23] <varsendagger> i learned that hte hard wqay
[06:24] <Psi-Jack> Gawds... dvd::rip is fricken slow as crap just ripping one title from a DVD. And eats CPU for lunch while it's doing it.
[06:24] <Blippe> phiqtion best in win to defrag is diskeeper
[06:24] <nbound> why would u want FAT any ext3 is the kewlz0rs :P
[06:24] <lapducky> wassup, yes, FAT32 does not support user permissions or extended file attributes
[06:24] <fangorious> I like to use Ext2 IFS in Windows to mount my ext2/ext3 drives, and share them that way
[06:24] <yggdrasil> is there a way to start an x ap in a console like my window manager is running and im ssh'd in can is tart an app to the windowsmangar ?
[06:25] <nbound> yggdrasil, type again without the typos :)
[06:25] <wassup> fangorious i have no problem using ext2/3 as long as I can write to them through windows
[06:25] <foampeace> Mabus06: you can compile q3 but you need the pak files and a cd key
[06:25] <Blippe> yggdrasil, so what you wanna do is open a program at the computer you ssh'ed into?
[06:25] <yggdrasil> blippe yes
[06:25] <Blippe> for the person sitting in front of it?
[06:25] <yggdrasil> im having a hard tim configureing my fluxbox
[06:25] <yggdrasil> i cant even get a terminal
[06:25] <yggdrasil> open
[06:26] <aru> any of you guys recommend software for synching with an ipod on linux besides banshee?
[06:26] <sethk> yggdrasil, sure, you just set the DISPLAY env variable appropriately
[06:26] <fangorious> wassup: yeah, Ext IFS is a Windows driver, supports read/write. there's also the open source ext2fsd (on sourceforge)
[06:26] <nbound> foampeace, which i have both of :P
[06:26] <foampeace> nbound: i bought mine back in the day
[06:26] <Blippe> sethk, how?
[06:26] <brad_teenbot> Hey varsendagger have ya made it back yet?
[06:26] <yggdrasil> yea how
[06:26] <nbound> foampeace, as did i
[06:26] <yggdrasil> haha
[06:26] <sethk> yggdrasil, you do (on the command line)  export DISPLAY=333.333.333.333:0
[06:26] <ITSa341> anyone willing to help me with ndiswrapper? I get an error when trying to compile from source.
[06:26] <yggdrasil> i know its on trl alt f7
[06:26] <sethk> yggdrasil, obviously you use the  real IP address
[06:27] <Blippe> sethk, me likey!
[06:27] <sethk> yggdrasil, then any X app will direct it's output to the X server running on that IP
[06:27] <brad_teenbot> can anybody help me get my sound working?
[06:27] <foampeace> nbound: i wanna buy more games because linux is the place to play them
[06:27] <yggdrasil> well but im basicly on the same computer
[06:27] <yggdrasil> that seems like it would run the app on the remote computer
[06:27] <sethk> yggdrasil, so?
[06:27] <yggdrasil> im sshd into the computer
[06:27] <nbound> foampeace, after q3 im gonna get my old ultimate doom cd goin :D
[06:27] <sethk> yggdrasil, no, that's not how X works
[06:27] <yggdrasil> i want the ap to run there
[06:27] <yggdrasil> ok ill tyr it
[06:27] <yggdrasil> so then just
[06:27] <sethk> yggdrasil, it is perfectly ok in X to point at your own X server
[06:27] <nbound> foampeace, but ive also fallen in love with linux
[06:28] <foampeace> nbound: airline tycoon deluxe looks pretty good
[06:28] <sethk> yggdrasil, and in fact, if DISPLAY is not set, it will scream at you
[06:28] <yggdrasil> xterm export 192.168.0.56 ?
[06:28] <fangorious> nbound: you going to marry it?
[06:28] <brad_teenbot> hey does anyoen know the code to be directed to the ubuntu sound help chat room?
[06:28] <nbound> fangorious, yes :)
[06:28] <foampeace> fangorious: i already married it
[06:28] <nbound> lol
[06:28] <axisys> hi all
[06:29] <foampeace> my and ubuntu are going on a honeymoon to my room which is here
[06:29] <fangorious> foambuntus ... that's great
[06:29] <nbound> axisys, hi
[06:29] <axisys> does anyone know that logger can't be used for kern.info to test but any thing else like mail.info and etc.?
[06:29] <axisys> wonder why
[06:29] <yggdrasil> sethk xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 192.168.0.56
[06:30] <nbound> axisys, no idea :)
[06:30] <odat> hi everyone
[06:30] <sethk> yggdrasil, ok, that's either a permissions problem, or the server has a problem
[06:30] <yggdrasil> let me sudo it
[06:30] <sethk> yggdrasil, are you the same user that started X?
[06:30] <yggdrasil> yea
[06:30] <odat> anyone ever used that automatix thing  or easy ubuntu?
[06:30] <fangorious> yggdrasil: put a display number on that (192.168.0.56:0, for example)
[06:30] <Madpilot> !automatix
[06:30] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[06:30] <sethk> yggdrasil, if you are that user, it isn't a permissions thing.
[06:30] <ITSa341> odat   I've used both
[06:30] <nbound> Madpilot, lol
[06:30] <yggdrasil> fangorius
[06:30] <yggdrasil> thats it it hink
[06:31] <myriad> what am i to make of this:     "3ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible" ?
[06:31] <yggdrasil> wiat maybe not
[06:31] <odat> ITSa341, and?
[06:31] <Madpilot> nbound: I didn't add that factoid to the bot, actually :P
[06:31] <yggdrasil> fangorius no , i take it
[06:31] <nbound> Madpilot, still it was funny :P
[06:32] <robotgeek> i'm entering the fabulous world of isolinux, anyone have any experience in that issue
[06:32] <ITSa341> automatix hosed my system the first time but worked fine the next try. Easy-Ubuntu worked flawlessly every time
[06:32] <Madpilot> nbound: it used to be even blunter, someone toned it down...
[06:32] <sethk> myriad, possibly add DRI to the xorg.conf, rebuild the kernel with dri for your hardware
[06:32] <yggdrasil> well screw it i give up for the night
[06:32] <bimberi> Madpilot: iirc it was 1 word :)
[06:32] <fangorious> yggdrasil: describe your environment again please
[06:33] <yggdrasil> anyone know how to just edit my fluxbox menu
[06:33] <yggdrasil> its flux box
[06:33] <yggdrasil> i cant edit the menu so i have no apps
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> nbound: I'm somewhat amused by !who's your daddy.
[06:33] <myriad> sethk:   sounds way too complicated for me    =\
[06:33] <yggdrasil> and im sshd into the box
[06:33] <sethk> myriad, the xorg.conf thing isn't complicated.  Usually it is a single line
[06:33] <nbound> !who's your daddy
[06:33] <ubotu> cafuego
[06:33] <yggdrasil> from anothe box
[06:33] <ITSa341> odat  the first time I tried automatix I couldn't even reboot to recovery mode
[06:33] <nbound> tonyyarusso, wtf?
[06:33] <BxL> !automatix
[06:33] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[06:34] <yggdrasil> yggdrasil@Olya:/usr/share/doc/fluxbox$ export DISPLAY=192.168.0.56:0
[06:34] <yggdrasil> yggdrasil@Olya:/usr/share/doc/fluxbox$ xterm
[06:34] <yggdrasil> xterm Xt error: Can't open display: 192.168.0.56:0
[06:34] <nbound> tonyyarusso, cafeugo?
[06:34] <myriad> sethk:   the rebuilding the kernel part sounds hard
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> nbound, He manages the bot.
[06:34] <nbound> tonyyarusso, ahhh i see
[06:34] <ITSa341> odat  stick to easy ubuntu
[06:34] <Madpilot> nbound: cafuego owns the bot
[06:34] <ITSa341> or use synaptic  :-)
[06:34] <fangorious> yggdrasil: so you're on host1, connected via ssh to host2, and want to run an X app on host2 with it displayed back to host1?
[06:34] <ispiked> will dpkg show all missing deps, or just the first one?
[06:34] <ispiked> s/dpkg/apt-get/
[06:34] <odat> true
[06:34] <odat> has anyone used aMSN?
[06:35] <nbound> so am i gonna have any probs wil q3 and x64 linux :S
[06:35] <yggdrasil> i just cant figure out how to edit the fluxbox menu
[06:35] <fangorious> ispiked: i think all
[06:35] <yggdrasil> fangorius lets make it easier
[06:35] <fangorious> yggdrasil: i can't help with fluxbox menus
[06:35] <yggdrasil> say ive got an x session runnning
[06:35] <yggdrasil> and it ctrl alt f1
[06:35] <bimberi> ispiked: dpkg will tell you the first missing dep, apt-get will attempt to install them all
[06:35] <timfrost> ITSa341, what news?  I have been away for a while
[06:35] <yggdrasil> and log in as the same user.
[06:36] <yggdrasil> istn there a way to start up an app in my xwindows ?
[06:36] <ispiked> fangorious: I'm just wondering before I do a force... I think it'll be OK to tell it that it can use 5.8.7-5ubuntu1.2 instead of perl-base (= 5.8.7-5ubuntu1).
[06:36] <sethk> yggdrasil, there is a file, I think in a directory called something like .fluxbox (under your home folder) that contains the menu, at least if you've changed the menu for a specific user
[06:36] <specialbuddy> do I have to download something in order to watch certain dvd's?
[06:36] <ispiked> bimberi: I see...
[06:36] <ITSa341> timfrost  I got the packages you recommended and it just changed the error message
[06:36] <Blippe> ubotu, what is crack?
[06:36] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, Blippe
[06:36] <bimberi> !dvd
[06:36] <yggdrasil> sethk yea i know but i cant fid documentiation on it
[06:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ubotu tell Blippe about crack
[06:37] <fangorious> yggdrasil: if you are logged into the machine locally with an X session, why do you want to launch an X app from the console? just launch it in the X session.
[06:37] <timfrost> ITSa341, what are you trying to build? And what is the current message?
[06:37] <Blippe> Ahhhh... :D
[06:37] <odat> i wish when you removed a program it removed everything that the program needed to begin with
[06:37] <bimberi> ubotu tell specialbuddy about dvd
[06:37] <sethk> yggdrasil, I'm not enough of a 'box guru to point you at docs, sorry.
[06:37] <yggdrasil> fangorius because the window manager doesnt have a menu to launch anything with . not even a terminal
[06:37] <yggdrasil> sss cool sethk just thought that firing off an app from a console would be eeasy
[06:37] <ispiked> how can I get in contact with a package mainainter?
[06:37] <ITSa341> timfrost  the latest ndiswrapper    so I can support my dwl-g122
[06:37] <fangorious> yggdrasil: ah, try setting DISPLAY to localhost:0 or even just ":0"
[06:37] <yggdrasil> fangorius there has to be the way
[06:38] <yggdrasil> fangorius ill try that
[06:38] <odat> am i missing something or is that just the way it is
[06:38] <yggdrasil> fangorius that worked
[06:38] <Abecedarian> ubotu tell Abecedarian about mp3
[06:39] <yggdrasil> even did it from the ssh. export DISPLAY=:0
[06:39] <Mabus06> does anyone here know how to use ssh? I installed it on the computer next to me, used nautilus to go to ssh://tristan@ubuntu however it asked for a password. I put the password for the user 'tristan' on the target computer but it didn't work. Any help?
[06:39] <fangorious> yggdrasil: http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docs/en/newdoc.menuedit.php
[06:39] <timfrost> ITSa341, I haven't needed ndiswrapper, so haven't tried building it.  You may need to set CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 before runnig the build/configure (to tell the make subsystem to use that rather than /usr/bin/gcc
[06:39] <ITSa341> timfrost  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7056
[06:39] <Madpilot> !tell Mabus06 about ssh
[06:40] <Mabus06> Madpilot, I'm at that page.
[06:40] <bimberi> odat: you can use debfoster, also the aptitude package manager is better at uninstalling obsolete dependencies
[06:40] <Mabus06> Madpilot, I was sort of hoping for an answer to my question because I didn't find it there.
[06:40] <odat> debfoster?
[06:40] <yggdrasil> fangorius ocll now at least i got like four terminals open on it
[06:40] <yggdrasil> i can start up some stuff
[06:40] <fangorious> Mabus06: can you connect using plain command line ssh?
[06:40] <yggdrasil> thanks for thelink
[06:41] <bimberi> !info debfoster
[06:41] <ubotu> debfoster: (Install only wanted Debian packages), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 2.5-4ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 32 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[06:41] <uzur> hi all.
[06:41] <Mabus06> fangorious, sorry I'm new to th is... what?
[06:41] <Madpilot> Mabus06: ssh -l UserName 192.168.0.102(or IP, anyway)
[06:41] <Madpilot> Mabus06: and that's -L after ssh
[06:41] <fangorious> Mabus06: open a terminal, and type in 'ssh tristan@ubuntu'
[06:41] <bodaciousb> after installing my nvidia driver though APT(PLF repository i belive)  how to i get the driver running?
[06:41] <odat> how safe is debfoster
[06:42] <odat> and why doesn't synaptic offer some kind of feature like that
[06:42] <Mabus06> fangorious, yes and it asks for my password and again it says it's incorrect... I just installed ubuntu on the target computer and I'm 100% sure that is the correct password
[06:42] <Mabus06> However, the hostname for both of our computers is the same. Could that be contributing/causing the problem?
[06:42] <fangorious> Mabus06: maybe try logging into it locally
[06:42] <Mabus06> fangorious, the computer is on and running
[06:42] <fangorious> if you run 'ping ubuntu' does it resolve to the address 127.0.0.1
[06:43] <Mabus06> yes fangorious
[06:43] <fangorious> Mabus06: you're connecting to the machine you're already on, so you must have a different password on each machine
[06:44] <Mabus06> fangorious, hmmm?
[06:44] <fangorious> Mabus06: or perhaps the user tristan doesn't exist on the machine you're on
[06:44] <timfrost> ITSa341, you ned to escape the space (eg 'My\ Downloads' )
[06:44] <Madpilot> Mabus06: 127.0.0.1 is localhost, so you're not leaving the machine you're on
[06:44] <bimberi> odat: 1. no idea, don't use it, seen it recommended quite a bit though 2. because the author hasn't done so
[06:44] <tonyyarusso> Mabus06, You could get around it by connecting by IP address.
[06:44] <Madpilot> Mabus06: use the IP of the machine you want to connect to....
[06:44] <Mabus06> I tried that tonyyarusso but again, said wrong password.
[06:44] <fangorious> on the machine you want to connect to, run 'ip addr' in a terminal so you can find its ip address
[06:45] <SldSnake> hey guys
[06:45] <yggdrasil> fangora  and sethk just so you know this is an old (ancient) mac clone that i instlled linux on.
[06:45] <ITSa341> timfrost ??  you mean rename the folder without the space? or some other command?
[06:45] <Mabus06> fangorious, I know it's IP address. I tried using it's IP address instead of ubuntu.
[06:45] <gustavo> i am soo happy!
[06:45] <Mabus06> Same problem. Password incorrect (when its not)
[06:45] <nbound> gustavo, errr why?
[06:45] <fangorious> Mabus06: you should give them different hostnames, and perhaps add them to each others' /etc/hosts files (assuming you don't have local dns running)
[06:46] <gustavo> i am in internet whith ubunutu!!...
[06:46] <gustavo> ubuntu...
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, What do the slashes mean at the end of the IP addresses?  (192.168.2.10/24)  And is there a better way to find out the public IP (I'm behind a router) than visiting whatismyip.com?
[06:46] <sethk> yggdrasil, X shouldn't care, as long as you have rudimentary tcp/ip
[06:46] <gustavo> i had too say it to someone!...
[06:46] <sethk> tonyyarusso, that's an alternate notation for the netmask
[06:46] <yggdrasil> sethk i got it working dood
[06:46] <nbound> gustavo, lol, mine autodetected everything :P
[06:46] <Mabus06> fangorious, well really I'm just testing this out to get the feel for ssh, the target computer is not my computer, I just fixed it for a friend and it's at my house for the night.
[06:46] <yggdrasil> from the ssh console
[06:46] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: the 24 is the netmask (255.255.255.0 == 24)
[06:46] <sethk> tonyyarusso, 24 means netmask ffffff00
[06:46] <gustavo> i am evangeliced <--- or something like that!
[06:46] <yggdrasil> even did it from the ssh. export DISPLAY=:0
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> gustavo, A little excited are we?  (I was too, I had to figure out the concept of a winmodem first.)
[06:47] <gustavo> good bye XP!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, sethk: Ah.
[06:47] <bodaciousb> how od i kill x and go back to console?
[06:47] <sethk> yggdrasil, your hostname and/or locahost aren't resolving
[06:47] <fangorious> yggdrasil: ssh can actually setup X forwarding automatically, if you use -X when connecting at the command line
[06:47] <yggdrasil> well im sshds into
[06:47] <yggdrasil> so it must be
[06:47] <gustavo> i won!
[06:47] <nbound> gustavo, XP???? i think i vaguely remember some piece of trsh called that :P
[06:47] <gustavo> i do it!...
[06:47] <yggdrasil> its cool im working on the menu now
[06:47] <nbound> trash*
[06:47] <Mabus06> typing ssh tristan@ipaddress is just giving me a blinking cursor, doesn't look to be doing anything
[06:47] <gustavo> i am using my winmodem!
[06:48] <yggdrasil> it was just kinda wierd to like keep loiggin into g and then out to test ifi  got the menu file done right
[06:48] <sethk> yggdrasil, you are ssh'd _in_ to it.  that means the machine you are ssh'ing into it _from_ resolved the name
[06:48] <gustavo> jajaja
[06:48] <fangorious> Mabus06: did you start sshd on the destination machine after installing it?
[06:48] <timfrost> ITSa341,  I wouild try  'mkdir ~/src; mv ~/My Downloads/RT25USB-SRC-V2.0.6.0 ~/src/RT25USB-SRC-V2.0.6.0 then re-run the build from there.  Directory names with spaces in them are hard to work with in Makefiles
[06:48] <nbound> gustavo, dialup eh... *shudders*
[06:48] <dooglus> ITSa341: you need to put quotes around the path with the space in it: make -C /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build SUBDIRS="/home/rick/My Downloads/RT25USB-SRC-V2.0.6.0" modules
[06:48] <bodaciousb> how do i kill x and go back to console?
[06:48] <Mabus06> fangorious, I thought I saw a terminal line that said it did something to that effect, but if you have to do it manually after installsing ssh-server then no, I didn't.
[06:48] <yggdrasil> ctrl alt bkspc
[06:48] <gustavo> the only thing which tied me to microsoft was internet... now... fuck them!
[06:48] <yggdrasil> and the ctrl alt f1
[06:48] <bodaciousb> that restarts x
[06:49] <fangorious> bodaciousb: ctrl-alt-backspace kills your x session, and will drop you back to gdm/kdm/xdm iif you have it running
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> gustavo, It does feel good, I must say.  (Dual-boot machine with XP here, although I noticed that I don't actually use it anymore.  I initially kept it on because I didn't know anything about Linux, and needed backup.
[06:49] <bodaciousb> ok thanks
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> gustavo, So what chipset/driver are you dealing with for this sudden joy?
[06:49] <fangorious> bodaciousb: after getting to the console you can /etc/init.d/{gdm,kdm,xdm} stop to kill the login manager
[06:49] <nbound> tonyyarusso, its weird to hear misconcpetions people have about linux though
[06:50] <ITSa341> timfrost   I renamed the folder and it seems to be working
[06:50] <gustavo> 537EP... intel
[06:50] <fangorious> Mabus06: log into the destination machine locally, and from a terminal run 'sudo invoke-rc.d ssh start'
[06:50] <nbound> tonyyarusso, i said i was gonna bring my machine to the the next lan we have and their like, will it connect to the network, lmao
[06:50] <gustavo> alguien habla espaol por casualidad??
[06:50] <Madpilot> !es
[06:50] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:50] <timfrost> ITSa341, that sounds promising.
[06:51] <fangorious> gustavo: un pocito, pero no hablo muy bueno
[06:51] <nbound> i know one line of spanish :)
[06:51] <Mabus06> fangorious, action 'start' failed
[06:51] <gustavo> say it...
[06:51] <nbound> Te Quiero Puta!!!
[06:51] <julian> anyone know how to install vmware tools
[06:51] <nbound> its the name of a song
[06:51] <gustavo> jajaja
[06:51] <dooglus> Mabus06: that'll be because it's already running.  try "restart" instead of "start"
[06:51] <gustavo> i love you peach
[06:52] <bodaciousb> ctrl-alt-backspace restarts x, ctrl-alt-f1 just Hides x,  and nvidia still wont install becasue x is still running...
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> nbound, That's true.  And it makes it difficult to convince friends to try it, I've found.  (My friend Laura is apparently sure that it will break everything, by first uninstalling Windows erasing all semplence of her files, chewing and spitting out the hard drive, burning her warrenty documents, and then running away.  And she's taking Computer Science.
[06:52] <gustavo> now... my next step will be XFCE
[06:52] <fangorious> bodaciousb: did you stop gdm/kdm/xdm like I suggested?
[06:52] <Mabus06> fangorious, could it have something to do with my router that both of these computers connect to?
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> nbound, Nice.  No, Linux?  Be able to do things involving networks/internet?  I don't know if it was designed for that...
[06:53] <bodaciousb> fangorious, no, how do i do that?
[06:53] <fangorious> Mabus06: can you successfully ping them
[06:53] <fangorious> bodaciousb: assuming gdm, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:53] <gustavo> some use XFCE???
[06:53] <fangorious> bodaciousb: substitute kdm/xdm if appropriate
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> bodaciousb, You can hide X?  How's that work?
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> bodaciousb, Wait, stupid question.
[06:53] <timfrost> julian, what context? I am running VMware under breezy, hosting WIndows and Dapper.  What guest OS are you using?
[06:53] <nbound> tonyyarusso, yeah, i should be able to hook up to the network for some gaming fun next LAN party
[06:53] <Mabus06> fangorious, it appears so, yes
[06:53] <bodaciousb> tonyyarusso, its not hiding it, just a dif console =)
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> bodaciousb, Then I looked at what you said would do that, and realized it wasn't some fancy new concept...
[06:54] <fangorious> run 'telnet <server_ip> 22'
[06:54] <bodaciousb> gdm not running
[06:54] <nbound> tonyyarusso, as for ur friend laura, ROFL
[06:54] <brenner> tonnyarusso: what year is she in?
[06:54] <ITSa341> timfrost   It compiled!  I used insmod to load the module and it loaded ok
[06:54] <bodaciousb> fangorious, /etc/init.d/gdm stop  jsut says gdm is not running
[06:55] <tonyyarusso> nbound, She did take a Live CD though, and I sort of figured out VNC (so I can walk her through stuff from school in a different country), so I might be getting somewhere.
[06:55] <Mabus06> fangorious, infamous blinking cursor
[06:55] <fangorious> bodaciousb: do you get a gui login screen when you boot or log out of gnome/kde
[06:55] <nbound> tonyyarusso, sounds good
[06:55] <bodaciousb> fangorious, yeah, when i boot i get gui, and when i ctrl-alt-backsapce, the same
[06:56] <fangorious> bodaciousb: maybe it's kdm, then, /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[06:56] <timfrost> ITSa341, thats great.
[06:56] <gustavo> i have one more questions... if some answer me and help... today will be an orgasmic day... jaja
[06:56] <dooglus> bodaciousb: do a "ps -ef | grep dm" to see what display manager is running
[06:56] <bodaciousb> doesnt exist
[06:56] <nbound> gustavo, hahaaha, ask away
[06:56] <fangorious> Mabus06: netstat -antp | grep 22
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> I need some more practice though, so I need to do some playing around with tightvnc.  Connecting to particular displays being one.  Another being non-vnc, someone mentioned 'screen' to view consoles without X...
[06:56] <gustavo> some nows how to use eclipse.... de IDE for java and PHP???
[06:56] <bodaciousb> auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
[06:57] <gustavo> it doesn t work....
[06:57] <fangorious> bodaciousb: guess you'll have to manually kill it with kill -9
[06:57] <nbound> gustavo, hmmm i cant help you there
[06:57] <iantec> what is the directory to put programs running at start up? using konqueror
[06:57] <bodaciousb> fangorious, ok
[06:57] <gustavo> some else????
[06:57] <gustavo> some nows??
[06:57] <nbound> tonyyarusso, i havent even used vnc at all yet so ur goin better than me :P
[06:57] <Blippe> !news
[06:57] <fangorious> iantec: there's ~/.kde/Autostart
[06:57] <Mabus06> fangorious, want me to pastebin it?
[06:57] <gustavo> someone else??
[06:57] <bodaciousb> fangorious, kill -9 doesnt do anything but tell me how to use it
[06:57] <gustavo> pleaseeeeeeeeeee
[06:58] <fangorious> bodaciousb: you have to give it the PID from the prior ps command
[06:58] <ITSa341> timfrost hmm, but no connection
[06:58] <lyggdrasi> Fangora you here ?
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> nbound, There's a simple GUI to enable it :)  Check out System > Preferences > Remote Desktop.  Then vncviewer to connect.
[06:59] <fangorious> Mabus06: is there a line that shows "tcp 0 0 <ip>:22 .... LISTEN?
[06:59] <tsrj> you can ps -ax or jobs ,either is ok,hehe
[06:59] <bodaciousb> kill -9 11788 no such process
[06:59] <lyggdrasi> fangorus this is the box ;)
[06:59] <lyggdrasi> im happy to have it running
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> nbound, Why there isn't a GUI menu option for the viewer by default, I don't know.
[06:59] <gustavo> some nows something... about eclipse IDE...??
[06:59] <iantec> cant find it....
[06:59] <tsrj> it has been killed
[06:59] <iantec> wait what is its main folkder
[06:59] <nbound> tonyyarusso, ahh i see ill have to try it out sometime
[07:00] <fangorious> lyggdrasi: am I Fangora?
[07:00] <gustavo> someone develop HTML or PHP???
[07:00] <fangorious> gustavo: i always use vim
[07:00] <lyggdrasi> yes sorry
[07:00] <Mabus06> fangorious, the word listen is not to be found.
[07:00] <lyggdrasi> its yggdrasil
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> gustavo, What's your question?
[07:01] <fangorious> lyggdrasi: just checking
[07:01] <lyggdrasi> yea sorryabout that i did corect myself after a few
[07:01] <cvt|kde> how do i get the ignore feature to work?
[07:01] <gustavo> thanks tony.... its about ECLIPSE... the IDE... ask me for java...
[07:01] <cvt|kde> in xchat
[07:01] <gustavo> i supoused to be installed in my system....
[07:02] <tonyyarusso> gustavo, Supposed to meaning you need it or you think you already have it?
[07:02] <iantec> fangorious how do i get there sorry im new to linux
[07:02] <lyggdrasi> dam this is pissing me off though i cant get ethe stupid menu to work in fluxbox.
[07:02] <fangorious> Mabus06: so sshd doesn't seem to be running, did you run 'sudo invoke-rc.d ssh restart'?
[07:02] <Mabus06> yes I did, fangorious
[07:02] <gustavo> i am new in LINUX...
[07:02] <Mabus06> fangorious, if you meant the target computer that is
[07:02] <gustavo> that is my answer....
[07:02] <gustavo> how can i now??
[07:03] <Psi-Jack> Mabus06: Well, I'm back. Here's a problem.
[07:03] <cvt|kde> i type: /ignore <mask> and get nothing
[07:03] <timfrost> ITSa341, I can't help there - the kernel module I built was the VMware drivers.
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> gustavo, Ah.  Java is not installed by default (legality issues), so if you haven't already had to do some research for it, you don't have it.
[07:03] <gustavo> i think i allready have it...
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> !tell gustavo about java
[07:03] <Mabus06> Psi-Jack, shoot
[07:03] <Psi-Jack> Mabus06: Loading up glxgears, it goes really smooth for about 2-3 seconds, then goes really slow.
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> !tell gustavo about javadebs
[07:03] <fangorious> iantec: browsing your home directory in Konqueror, go to the View menu and select "Show Hidden Files" then you will see the .kde directory
[07:03] <john043> hello
[07:04] <fangorious> Mabus06: what did it say when you ran restart?
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> !tell gustavo about multiverse
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> !tell gustavo about seveas
[07:04] <Mabus06> fangorious, restarting openbsd secure shell server [ok] 
[07:04] <gustavo> what?
[07:04] <Mabus06> gustavo, read your msg from ubotu
[07:04] <dooglus> Mabus06: if you run "ps -ef | grep ssh", do you see the server?
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> gustavo, Those links will direct you to everything you need to know to get Java set up.
[07:04] <john043> i have a question, does ubuntu write to anything other than the RAM? ie motherboard, bios, etc..
[07:05] <fangorious> Mabus06: do you have a firewall running?
[07:05] <gustavo> ok... thanks!
[07:05] <iantec> i see...thanks so much!
[07:05] <Nameeater> err why would it?
[07:05] <sethk> john043, the bios is generally read/only
[07:05] <nbound> john043, u cant write to the motherboard ;)
[07:05] <tonyyarusso> john043, And the hard disk, presumably!  :)
[07:05] <john043> yeah
[07:05] <sethk> john043, there are various types of "memory mapped" devices the kernel writes to, and it writes to i/o space also
[07:05] <Mabus06> I don't think so, dooglus
[07:05] <fangorious> Mabus06: from the target machine, can you 'ssh localhost'
[07:05] <iantec> so cokonqueror is the equavalent of my computer then lol total noob! thanks
[07:05] <Mabus06> fangorious, only my router
[07:05] <nbound> john043, and it wont write to the bios :P
[07:05] <john043> alright
[07:05] <Psi-Jack> Mabus06: Any idea as to why that would be? :)
[07:06] <fangorious> iantec: konqueror is kde's equivalent of both Windows Explorer and Internet Explorer
[07:06] <fangorious> Mabus06: you can ssh to the router from the machine you're trying to ssh to?
[07:06] <action09> Open Office on Ubuntu is bullshit
[07:06] <iantec> so whats my com puter then?
[07:06] <Mabus06> Psi-Jack, nope, never had that problem. I'm not particurily knowledged with video issues, I just happened to have the same problem as you before, last time.
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> action09, ??  How so?
[07:06] <action09> crash 10 times a day,
[07:06] <nbound> action09, what do u mean?
[07:06] <Psi-Jack> action09: Why would you say that?
[07:06] <NCLife> is there any way to know what makes your computer slow? i was wondering because right now its as fast at it has never be, and it would be nice to know if i could reach that speed more often
[07:06] <action09> i can't use it
[07:06] <Mabus06> fangorious, I can ssh localhost on the target
[07:07] <nbound> action09, never one crash here :)
[07:07] <action09> i'm using ubuntu from Hoary
[07:07] <Madpilot> action09: I've never had OOo crash on Ubuntu...
[07:07] <sethk> action09, mine almost never crashes more than 9
[07:07] <Psi-Jack> action09: Why can't you use it?
[07:07] <Hmmmm> hey guys, i have a lil problem
[07:07] <Mabus06> fangorious, but ssh the router? you mean ssh 192.168.0.1?
[07:07] <action09> and never see OO crashing so many times
[07:07] <Psi-Jack> My OOo works fine.
[07:07] <Madpilot> action09: upgrade to Breezy...
[07:07] <Hmmmm> i have a program that needs /dev/pty*
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> iantec, (using Gnome, not sure how analogous it is) The computer section (viewing / (the root directory)) in that viewer.
[07:07] <sampan> cvt|kde  did you figure out the ignore?
[07:07] <fangorious> Mabus06: I wasn't sure what the router comment was for, forgot I asked about firewalls
[07:07] <iantec> im in kde....
[07:07] <nbound> NCLife, linux will stay fast far longer than windows
[07:07] <john043> i have a weird problem with my computer, mprime fails everytime, although if i run the ubuntu live cd and reboot mprime can run for days on my installed OS.  It of course does not work if I shutdown and start back up.
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> action09, Never had it crash either.
[07:07] <action09> Madpilot  yes i'm on , i'm still using Ubuntu till Hoary never had a problem, now im' on Breezy with OO and can't use it :(
[07:08] <Mabus06> fangorious, well no, 'ssh 192.168.0.1' does not work
[07:08] <action09> what can i do so ? make a strace ? submit a bug ? reinstall it ?
[07:08] <cvt|kde> sampan, no
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> nbound, Why is it that they eventually slow down?
[07:08] <Madpilot> action09: my mistake, i took "using ubuntu from Hoary" to mean that you were still using Hoary... in any case, I've never had any trouble with OOo
[07:08] <fangorious> Mabus06: so on the target machine you can connect with 'ssh localhost' (logged in and everything) but the netstat command run on the target machine doesn't show anything with LISTEN on port 22, that's really  weird
[07:08] <NCLife> nbound, the last couple of days it was reaally slow.. but now it suddenly became very fast
[07:08] <bodaciousb> ok, nvidia wont install,      how do i install nvidia?
[07:08] <Psi-Jack> action09: You could always try to reinstall OOo, to fix it. I mean, sounds easy enough.
[07:08] <Mabus06> Psi-Jack, you will find more knowledgable people in #ati, but not as alert or helpful unfortunately
[07:09] <sampan> cvt|kde  two ways: /ignore <mask> <type> <option>  (just type /ignore and read the help screen), or go to "window" on menubar, and select "ignore list" and you can add/delete there
[07:09] <nbound> tonyyarusso, well windows generally becomes overloaded with temp files, and if ur not careful viruses and spyware
[07:09] <NCLife> nbound, im trying to find out way so that i can get this speed more often
[07:09] <Psi-Jack> Mabus06: I see. Thanks.
[07:09] <fangorious> obuto: tell bodaciousb about nvidia
[07:09] <Mabus06> fangorious, I ran the netstat command on this computer, sorry
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> nbound, Any good ways to fix that?  (My family still has computers running Windows, and has that problem big time.)
[07:09] <NCLife> why*
[07:10] <nbound> tonyyarusso, u can keep it upto speed by cleaning ur registry, deleting old temp files, defragmenting, regular virus and spyware scans
[07:10] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: switch to Linux :P
[07:10] <bodaciousb> fangorious, i dont think that bot is in here
[07:10] <K_Dallas> Q: is there a client like gaim which supports at least voice ?
[07:10] <timfrost> !tell bodaciousb -about nvidia
[07:10] <cvt|kde> sampan, i do that and i still see their text . oh well
[07:10] <nbound> K_Dallas, i THINK kopete might
[07:10] <fangorious> helps if i get the name right
[07:10] <Mabus06> fangorious, on the target machine there is indeed a 'listen' entry
[07:10] <Mabus06> for 22
[07:10] <K_Dallas> nbound, i try it thanks
[07:10] <tonyyarusso> nbound, Okay, I know how to defrag, and have Norton and AdAware.  There seem to be temp directories all over though, and I have no idea how to clean the registry.  Any suggestions?
[07:10] <sampan> cvt|kde  even with the <type>?  you have to tell xchat to ignore their msgs regular-chat, etc?
[07:11] <fangorious> ubotu: tell bodaciousb about nvidia
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot, Well, that's what I did, but they're a little slower to catch on.
[07:11] <nbound> regcleanXP is a good registry cleaner
[07:11] <Mabus06> tonyyarusso, that sounds like a windows question to me :P
[07:11] <fangorious> bodaciousb: that work?
[07:11] <Madpilot> tonyyarusso: heh - they'll come around when the next virus hits!
[07:11] <nbound> Norton is WAY TOO BULKY, it slows down the system, there are free lightweight alternatives such as AVG or Avast!
[07:11] <bodaciousb> fangorious, yeah, thanks
[07:11] <Sweetest> !mount
[07:11] <ubotu> mount is, like, totally, the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives or http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> Mabus06, Well yeah, but where am I going to find a dedicated space of people that know things about how to make Windows work?
[07:11] <Mabus06> #windows ?
[07:12] <Mabus06> #Xp ?
[07:12] <Mabus06> Dunno.
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> Madpilot, Could be.  I got one of the machines set up dual-boot, so that's a start.
[07:12] <Psi-Jack> Okay. Well, since I got no real resolution to that.. I got another area of need.
[07:12] <fangorious> Mabus06: ok, so we've confirmed that it's running on the target machine, and you can ping the target machine by IP address from the host machine
[07:12] <Mabus06> Just be glad no irritated ops are present, tonyyarusso
[07:12] <nbound> disc cleanup in ur hard drives properties will get rid of ur temp files
[07:12] <ubuntu> hello
[07:12] <Mabus06> fangorious, yes
[07:12] <cvt|kde> sampan, it shows them as being on ignore for all options.
[07:12] <ubuntu> i have a weird problem with my computer, mprime fails everytime, although if i run the ubuntu live cd and reboot mprime can run for days on my installed OS.  It of course does not work if I shutdown and start back up.
[07:12] <Madpilot> later all, need sleep
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> Mabus06, Yeah, I suppose.  It was (fairly) brief anyway.
[07:12] <sampan> cvt|kde  weird -- i use irssi, but i'm gonna test xchat -- so strange
[07:13] <bodaciousb> fangorious, that whole time all i had to do was sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:13] <fangorious> Mabus06: and from the host machine, at the command line, both 'ssh <ip>' and 'telnet <ip> 22' fail to connect
[07:13] <nbound> tonyyarusso, u get all that?
[07:13] <Psi-Jack> I have two conflicting packages that one's installed, one's depended upon by another. libfame is the culprit. How could I take the working, already installed one, and, locally alias it to be the other being desired by the other package?
[07:13] <sampan> cvt|kde  it works on my xchat just fine.
[07:13] <Mabus06> fangorious, correct
[07:13] <capricous> tony, Registry Mechanic is a good (commercial) program to clean up the registry
[07:13] <fangorious> Mabus06: if you leave either long enough, do they time out and give an error?
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> nbound, Yeah.
[07:14] <Mabus06> fangorious, a timeout error yeah
[07:14] <nbound> capricous, regcleanxp is free :)
[07:14] <jamesstansell> gustavo: when you have the universe repository setup you might try installing the eclipse-jdt package
[07:14] <sampan> cvt|kde  it's looking for more than just a nick, it wants a "mask", so if you're using just the nick, try putting a * on the end (e.g., /ignore sampan* ALL)
[07:14] <fangorious> on the target machine, run 'sudo iptables -L'
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> nbound, capricous: Have taken note of those.
[07:15] <nbound> but yeah norton will slow down a windows system like nothing else
[07:15] <gustavo> some use xfce .. with ubuntu??
[07:15] <Mabus06> ok, fangorious
[07:15] <cvt|kde> sampan, if i don't hear from them again i'll know that worked. thx
[07:15] <gustavo> someone use xfce .. with ubuntu??
[07:15] <capricous> tony: be careful with "deep scans" that clean the whole registry as they can cause problems with some programs, especially debuggers
[07:15] <fangorious> gustavo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[07:15] <sampan> cvt|kde  heheheh hope it works!  :D
[07:15] <jamesstansell> gustavo: xubuntu-desktop package in universe
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> gustavo, I tried it, didn't really like it though, so sticking with Gnome.
[07:16] <tonyyarusso> Okay, capricous.
[07:16] <action09> anyway i'll try to reinstall it :) i'm just angry cos on myhome workstation i have problems with OO, and at work none :)
[07:16] <tonyyarusso> All right, now we've entered off-topic territory, so that's as much as I really need.
[07:16] <capricous> tony: one more, there is a free program called CCleaner I used recently
[07:16] <gustavo> but.... the colours seems to be sheat
[07:16] <nbound> !tell nbound about edubuntu
[07:17] <gustavo> caca!
[07:17] <nbound> oops
[07:17] <Mabus06> nbound, you can just type /msg ubotu edubuntu
[07:18] <nbound> Mabus06, ive always wondered what edubuntu was
[07:18] <Mabus06> fangorious, I did what you last said
[07:18] <gustavo> !tell gustavo xubuntu
[07:18] <NCLife> wee, my computer is flying for the first time since ive installed ubuntu
[07:18] <gustavo> !tell gustavo about xubuntu
[07:18] <Erasmus> does anyone know about getting the Toshiba Media Center to work with Ubuntu?
[07:19] <NCLife> could someone tell me how could i find out what was or is making my computer slow?
[07:19] <Blippe> !xubuntu
[07:19] <ubotu> hmm... xubuntu is Ubuntu using XFCE instead of Gnome for the desktop. Details here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu
[07:19] <tonyyarusso> For anyone using an IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad (esp. T series, but any responses appreciated): What kind of battery life do you have, and what did you have to do to configure power management for it?
[07:19] <Blippe> gustavo #xubuntu
[07:19] <fangorious> Mabus06: and? with no rules it should give 8 lines of output (3 sets of 2 lines, with blank lines between the sets)
[07:20] <Mabus06> that's what it gives, fangorious
[07:20] <fangorious> NCLife: no real way to see what was making it slow, except to casually observe what you are doing different now
[07:20] <Khisanth> NCLife: would be easier to figure while it's slow :)
[07:20] <dooglus> Mabus06: what if you run "ssh localhost" on the machine where you're running the ssh server?
[07:20] <dooglus> Mabus06: does it ask you to log in?
[07:20] <fangorious> NCLife: but you could run top to see what's consuming CPU or memory when it is running slow
[07:20] <Mabus06> dooglus, yes, it works fine
[07:20] <Locke> does anyone know about the Toshiba Media Center?
[07:20] <dooglus> Mabus06: well, that's something :)
[07:21] <fangorious> Mabus06: do you have tcpdump installed?
[07:21] <Mabus06> fangorious, if you have to explictly install it no
[07:21] <NCLife> fangorious, top? is it a command
[07:21] <dooglus> Mabus06: what happens if you "ssh <whatever>" in a shell on the remote host?
[07:21] <NCLife> oh yeah, nicee
[07:21] <dooglus> Mabus06: where <whatever> is the internal IP address of the ssh server
[07:21] <fangorious> NCLife: yes, run it on a console or terminal
[07:21] <Mabus06> dooglus, internal ip address? Wouldn't know what it is.
[07:22] <NickZA> I get this error when trying to load up phpmyadmin that has just been installed, any ideas ? cannot load mysql extension
[07:22] <Nelo> I have a laptop just inserted a SmartMedia card and Ubuntu does not read it...
[07:22] <NCLife> fangorious, yeah, no i see.. thanks for the tip :)
[07:22] <dooglus> Mabus06: when you run "ifconfig" on the ssh server, what IP address do you see for your network interface?
[07:22] <fangorious> Mabus06: it's the IP address (internal meaning not publically routable over the internet)
[07:22] <SweetestSavage> Question: I'm trying to format my new partition on my hard drive, and in System -> Admin -> Disks, it shows the device located at /dev/hda3. However, when I type sudo mke2fs -j /dev/hda3 it tells me: Could not stat /dev/hda3 --- No such file or directory. What's going on?
[07:23] <UncleD> Anyone here running bind9?
[07:23] <dooglus> Mabus06: something like:    ifconfig eth0 | grep 'inet addr'    is what you're looking for
[07:23] <SweetestSavage> !nvidia
[07:23] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:23] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, fangorious: Is it possible to view the one that is public over the internet?
[07:23] <UncleD> hey dooglus :)
[07:23] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: rephrase, please?
[07:23] <dooglus> hi Unc!
[07:23] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: depends on the router you're connected through
[07:23] <Mabus06> dooglus, it says 192.168.0.100 but the internal IP for my router is 192.168.0.1 (are those different values?)
[07:24] <Nelo> I have a laptop just inserted a SmartMedia card and Ubuntu does not read it... is there a way i could see if ubuntu detected the smarmedia card?
[07:24] <dooglus> Mabus06: those are different.
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, A command of some sort to find the public IP of a machine, matching the result given by such sites as www.whatismyip.com, when behind a router.
[07:24] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: my linksys has a web interface
[07:24] <dooglus> Mabus06: what does your router have to do with it?
[07:24] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: your local machine doesn't know its external IP address, I don't think
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, Siemens SpeedStream 6520 if that means anything to you.
[07:24] <Mabus06> dooglus, works fine now
[07:24] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: you have to ask a machine that's outside the LAN - hence the "whatsmyip" sites
[07:25] <Mabus06> dooglus, sshing the internal ip from the target that is
[07:25] <fangorious> Mabus06: what IP were you giving before then?
[07:25] <dooglus> Mabus06: so you were trying to connect to the ssh server on your router, instead of on your ssh server?
[07:25] <bshumate> Nelo: open a terminal > type in: tail -f /var/log/syslog  then insert the card and see what kinda relevant message ya get. ;-)
[07:25] <xcall> hallo
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, Odd.  You'd think there would be some way of getting it.  At least by asking the router or something.
[07:26] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: not familiar with it. have you looked at their documentation?
[07:26] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: maybe there is.  but I don't think there's any standard way of getting that info from the router.
[07:26] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: I'm assuming that's a router, and not a cable/dsl modem
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, Haha, you're funny.  You think Bell gave me documentation worth anything.  And if they did it would be Windows-only.
[07:26] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: I can get mine from the router using its http interface, but that means logging in to it first
[07:26] <Nelo> bshumate,  nothing on that log
[07:26] <xcall> good day everbody
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, It's a dsl modem/router.
[07:27] <xcall> good day nelo
[07:27] <Nelo> xcall howdy
[07:27] <Mabus06> fangorious, I can ssh to tristan@localipoftristan
[07:27] <bshumate> Nelo: see anything relevant if you use the command : dmesg ?
[07:27] <Locke> does anyone know about the Toshiba Media Center?
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, Do you think it would be simple enough for a developer with a few spare minutes to throw together, or totally not worth the effort?
[07:27] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: so you get assigned a non-routable IP by Bell, and somewhere upstream of your modem is a router with public IP
[07:27] <dooglus> Mabus06: is your problem solved?  or what is the problem if not?
[07:27] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: what?
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, Correct.
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, A standard way.
[07:28] <Mabus06> dooglus, I can ssh to the target computer if I use the local ip address of that computer as the ip address... but not if I use it's actual ip address
[07:28] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: I'm going to assume that whatsmyip.com is the simplest way for you then
[07:28] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: I think it would involve replacing all the routers worldwide.
[07:28] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: quite a big job...
[07:28] <fangorious> Mabus06: what is "it's actual ip address"?
[07:28] <Nelo> bshumate, i see this cs: IO port probe 0xa00-0xaff: clean. does it mean anything to u?
[07:28] <Mabus06> fangorious, the one that whatismyip.com says
[07:28] <dooglus> Mabus06: it doesn't have an actual IP address - it's on a LAN, not a WAN, right?
[07:29] <fangorious> Mabus06: that will give you the public IP on the other side of your router
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, dooglus: Well then, that would be a piece of work.
[07:29] <Mabus06> its connected wirelessly to my router that this computer is connected to via ethernet
[07:29] <bshumate> Nelo: nahh...is it a usb interfaced doo-dad that accepts smartmedia?
[07:29] <dooglus> Mabus06: what is your goal?
[07:29] <Mabus06> dooglus, to fool around with ssh and learn how to use it
[07:29] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: dooglus: UPnP can probably give you the router's public IP, probably let you control DHCP leases and static configuration, too, but I always turn it off
[07:29] <Badm4n> need help. i'm using ubuntu 5.10, with internet connection LIMITED ... what the name of packaged so i can monitoring how much bandwitdh that i use .....
[07:30] <dooglus> Mabus06: the router is the only bit of kit with a real IP address
[07:30] <Nelo> bshumate,  yeah I tried this back in previous release and it work. thanks though
[07:30] <Mabus06> dooglus, oh, well that explains something then
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, How do I access that?
[07:30] <dooglus> Mabus06: the other 2 machines are given local addresses 192.168.whatever by the router
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, (And what is it?)
[07:30] <dooglus> Mabus06: what you can do is tell the router to forward all incoming connections to port 22 on to the machine with ssh on it
[07:30] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: I don't think you can access the router, it sounds like Bell doesn't want you too (since they directly give you a private IP) and would probably terminate your service if you try
[07:30] <dooglus> Mabus06: then we can all have fun trying to guess your password :)
[07:31] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: UPnP is a network protocol for plug n' play
[07:31] <Mabus06> dooglus, the target computer is only with me temporarily
[07:31] <Mabus06> I'm returning it to my friend who I was fixing it for tommorow.
[07:31] <Mabus06> I'd like to be able to ssh into his computer and mess with his head a bit.
[07:31] <midwinter> hm, when I install samba is there meant to be windows networking options in network settings?
[07:31] <dooglus> Mabus06: if he has a router too, then you'll need to get at that as well.
[07:32] <bshumate> Nelo: yeah, seems like it is not being seen at all...when I plug the same kinda thing in my machine, I get messages in /var/log/syslog like "SCSI subsystem initialized" and "usb-storage: device found at 3", etc... that's the same kinda stuff you should be seeing too
[07:32] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, Bah.  I actually can access a modem/router setup thing by going to 192.168.2.1 in a web browser, if that means anything.
[07:32] <Badm4n> need help. i'm using ubuntu 5.10, with internet connection LIMITED ... what the name of packaged so i can monitoring how much bandwitdh that i use in a month cause if i use mrtg the data is not valid for monthly report :( .....
[07:32] <dooglus> Mabus06: installing the ssh server on a machine is no use if the router won't let you get at it
[07:32] <Mabus06> dooglus, he connects to some poor unencrypted and loud router actually
[07:32] <Mabus06> That isn't his.
[07:32] <dooglus> Mabus06: http://www.portforward.com/ is a good site for telling you how to configure the router
[07:32] <Mabus06> dooglus, yeah, I've been there.
[07:33] <narles> when i try to ./configure libgpod i get this error... checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is require d for intltool
[07:33] <narles> how do i fix this??/
[07:33] <Mabus06> dooglus, the people who own the router he connects to haven't changed the login info for the router, either. :)
[07:33] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: well, maybe the modem has a built-in router, have you looked as seimen's site for docs?
[07:33] <dooglus> Mabus06: you should probably set up the remote desktop too.
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, No, will do that.  What am I looking for?
[07:33] <dooglus> Mabus06: so you can wiggle his mouse, etc.
[07:34] <fangorious> narles: install XML::Parser
[07:34] <Mabus06> dooglus, remote desktop?
[07:34] <dooglus> Mabus06: system>preferences>remote-desktop
[07:34] <dooglus> Mabus06: lets you control his GNOME session remotely
[07:34] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: if have a Products or Support link, search for your modem's model number and hope you get something useful in the search results
[07:34] <dooglus> Mabus06: set a password on it, obviously
[07:35] <dooglus> Mabus06: consider installing 'knockd' too to make it a little safer
[07:35] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, (I'm not sure what "useful" would be).
[07:35] <Mabus06> dooglus, and how do I use it?
[07:35] <Badm4n> need help. i'm using ubuntu 5.10, with internet connection LIMITED ... what the name of packaged so i can monitoring how much bandwitdh that i use in a month cause if i use mrtg the data is not valid for monthly report :( .....
[07:35] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: anything labeled manual, or guide
[07:35] <dooglus> Mabus06: you use "vncclient"
[07:35] <narles> fangorious, i'm getting alot of results for XML Parser in synaptic manager, is there anything in particular i want to apt-get?
[07:35] <screeble> I'm going to go on holidays soon and wondering what the best way to ssh into my local machine over the internet from a cafe if they don't have a ssh client installed? Anyone know of a good/free web based ssh client?
[07:35] <Mabus06> dooglus, do I have to ssh into his computer first or is this separate?
[07:35] <Nelo> bshumate,  thanks for your time.
[07:36] <bshumate> Nelo: no problem!
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, On another interesting note, I just discovered something in the "Advanced" section of the tool at the modem's IP in the browser.  One of those tabs actually lets me see what I was looking for.  So, it is available, through that method if nothing else.  Any chance other means would then be able to access that information too?
[07:36] <s_spiff> what is a desktop-publisher?
[07:36] <dooglus> Mabus06: this is separate
[07:37] <varsendagger> narles, i had that problem but i think you can apt-get somehting to fix that... maybe try a google search with that stuff in it
[07:37] <Sweetest> Does anyone know how to connect to a local windows network?
[07:37] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, Can you ssh into a modem/router?
[07:37] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: possibly UPnP, but I have no familiarity with that
[07:37] <brandome> any help on firefox wmv playback?
[07:37] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: if it's running sshd
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, I have no idea... got ssh: connect to host 192.168.2.1 port 22: Connection refused
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> .
[07:38] <Nihil85> hi! i've installed xfce through synaptic. Now how can i decide wich gui to run?
[07:38] <devwal> Could someone help me out with my MacOSX / Ubuntu install on an external firewire drive?
[07:38] <fangorious> narles: not sure,maybe libxml-perl has it
[07:38] <Mabus06> dooglus, error can't open display
[07:38] <C-O-L-T> I have just seen the new imac with intel core duo. I want that :(
[07:38] <fangorious> narles: looks like libxml-perl works in tandem with it though
[07:38] <C-O-L-T> it is so beautifull
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> Anyone familiar with UPnP, to answer a question about routers/public IP?
[07:38] <varsendagger> brandome, install mplayer and mozimplayer both on ubuntu multiverse
[07:38] <dooglus> Mabus06: when you run what?
[07:38] <Mabus06> dooglus, that's after I type 'vncviewer 192.168.0.100'
[07:38] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: that answer's that
[07:38] <dooglus> Mabus06: did you set up the remote desktop?
[07:38] <Mabus06> dooglus, yep
[07:39] <bshumate> Nihil85: easy, just log out, click the session selector and choose Xfce
[07:39] <dooglus> Mabus06: hmmm
[07:39] <apollyon> i hate to just inject myself midconversation, but i was wondering if ubuntu has some bleeding edge devel files?
[07:39] <fangorious> narles: or maybe libxml-parser-perl
[07:39] <apollyon> I'd like to try firefox1.5 among others :)
[07:39] <dooglus> Mabus06: don't try "vncviewer localhost" on his machine.  it can crash X
[07:40] <devwal> Could someone help me out with my MacOSX / Ubuntu install on an external firewire drive?
[07:40] <dooglus> Mabus06: you're running that vncviewer inside an ssh connection, aren't you?
[07:40] <narles> thanks fangorious, it's working
[07:40] <fangorious> anyone know if konqueror (web browsing) has an autoscroll mode like middle-click in firefox and internet explorer
[07:40] <fangorious> ?
[07:40] <dooglus> Mabus06: you need to run it on the remote machine, outside of ssh
[07:41] <timfrost> ! tell apollyon -about ff1.5
[07:41] <ubotu> timfrost: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[07:41] <Blippe> !ff1.5
[07:41] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:42] <capricous> brandome: you can try the vlc firefox plugin, vlc rocks =)
[07:42] <Mabus06> dooglus, how come I can't gedit files through ssh? Do I have to copy them first, edit them out of ssh, and then put them back, edited?
[07:43] <apollyon> thank you
[07:43] <aithnea> I have just installed the 64 bit Ubuntu and got a SIOCGIFFLAGS error, what does this mean?  Thanks for the help
[07:44] <julian> anyone here familiar with vmware? how do i browse my windows files?
[07:44] <tonyyarusso> siemens site: "6520 is only sold in Australia".  Bull, it's sitting in front of me!  Aargh.
[07:44] <fangorious> Mabus06: you could vi them, or you could use -X when connecting to setup X tunneling through the ssh connection
[07:45] <timfrost> julian, what are you actually tryimg to do?
[07:45] <tonyyarusso> Might still be something useful here though.
[07:45] <julian> play my mp3
[07:45] <Mabus06> fangorious, so 'ssh tristan@192.168.0.100 -X' ?
[07:45] <julian> in ubuntu, but their saved on my windows desktop
[07:46] <fangorious> Mabus06: ssh -X tristan@192.168.0.100
[07:46] <Mabus06> fangorious, thanks
[07:46] <fangorious> julian: you have dual-boot?
[07:46] <fangorious> julian: or Windows installed under vmware?
[07:47] <julian> i have ubuntu installed using vmware
[07:47] <NickZA> can anyone recommend a good reference for a newbie mysql user, how to create databases etc etc ?
[07:47] <fangorious> julian: did you install it allowing network access? because then you could share the folder in windows, and mount it in ubuntu
[07:47] <Mabus06> fangorious, oh that's pretty cool actually
[07:48] <god> How do I compile using 64 bit?
[07:48] <god> instead of a 32 bit program I want a 64.
[07:48] <fangorious> Mabus06: you can also use -C # to set compression, where # is 0-9, with 9 being max compression
[07:48] <julian> yea i have network access
[07:48] <RememberPOL> How do internet backbones on different continents maintain a state of connection?
[07:48] <julian> how would i mount
[07:48] <fangorious> Mabus06: that can help improve performance of tunneling X when on a slow link
[07:49] <Mabus06> fangorious, any disadvantages to that?
[07:49] <dooglus> Mabus06: you can't run any X programs through ssh by default
[07:49] <dooglus> Mabus06: if you use "ssh -X" instead, then you can
[07:49] <fangorious> julian: sudo mount -t cifs //winhostname/share /mount/point
[07:49] <julian> let me try
[07:50] <timfrost> RememberPOL, they use a routing information exchange protocol to advertise that 'network x is over here'
[07:50] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, How does it know which display's X stuff to send?
[07:50] <fangorious> julian: where /mount/point is the folder you want the mp3s to show up in, and already exists before the mount command (and is hopefully empty, as you won't be able to see the local contents after the mount)
[07:50] <fangorious> Mabus06: higher compression uses more CPU power
[07:50] <Mabus06> fangorious, on both computers?
[07:50] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: the machine which you run the ssh client on has DISPLAY set.  it uses that DISPLAY variable.
[07:50] <fangorious> Mabus06: yes, because the remote host has to uncompress
[07:51] <brandome> whats the install for that pluglin
[07:51] <brandome> i know it rocks
[07:51] <brandome> you use it for DVD too?
[07:51] <fangorious> julian: you might also want to put '-o username=winusername' at the end of the mount command
[07:51] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: on the remote machine, if you look at the value of $DISPLAY, you'll see it's something like localhost:10 - that somehow ends up going through the secure tunnel to the ssh client, which displays it on your local host
[07:51] <julian> ok
[07:52] <god> How do I make a C++ program compile and use 64 bits?
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, So it would just put it on your default?  (As in, if you have an ssh connection on tty2 with -X, and try to run a graphical program on the remote computer, it will open on your desktop?)
[07:52] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: yes
[07:52] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: wait - is tty2 a virtual console?
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, Cool.  (Yes.)
[07:52] <NickZA> can anyone help me with phpmyadmin please ?
[07:53] <RememberPOL> Thanks
[07:53] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: ssh opens a port that it listens on and sets DISPLAY to that port, and the forwards packets to the X server on the machine you're connecting from
[07:53] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: virtual consoles don't have $DISPLAY set
[07:53] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: so it won't work
[07:53] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: if it's a terminal that you can run 'xclock' in and see a clock displayed locally, then you can 'ssh -X' and run the clock remotely
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, so I'd have to do it on tty7 (Where my desktop is).
[07:53] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: correct
[07:53] <julian> how do i give myself administrator privileges
[07:54] <NickZA> can anyone help me with phpmyadmin please ?
[07:54] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: or maybe set DISPLAY to localhost:0 on tty2 before running the ssh command (never tried that)
[07:54] <god> How do I make a C++ program compile and use 64 bits?
[07:54] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: or set DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY in your virtual console
[07:54] <Mabus06> fangorious, will the ssh server start up automatically each time I start the comp?
[07:54] <timfrost> ! tell julian -about sudo
[07:54] <ubotu> timfrost: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, fangorious: Odd question: Could I make something open on the remote computer's display?  (Such that I wouldn't see it, but I could make it pop up for that computer's user.)
[07:54] <fangorious> julian: sudo gpasswd -a username adm
[07:54] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, dooglus: How would I set that?
[07:55] <dooglus> fangorious: setting DISPLAY isn't enough, due to X server authentification.  you need to either set XAUTHORITY to the right value, or turn off X's authorisation
[07:55] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: possibly, depends on the xhost permissions on that machine
[07:55] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: look in a terminal inside GNOME.  that will have the right value in XAUTHORITY
[07:55] <julian> sweet thanks
[07:55] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, If it's allowed, do you know how to do it?  And/or how to make it allowed?
[07:55] <god> How do I make a C++ program compile and use 64 bits?
[07:55] <apollyon> usethe 64bit version of C++
[07:56] <god> how?
[07:56] <SweetestSavage> Does anyone know what the name of this library is: ./stepmania: error while loading shared libraries: libavformat.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:56] <fangorious> Mabus06: it might, but to be sure you can run 'sudo update-rc.d ssh on' and it should create S##ssh symlinks in the /etc/rc?.d folders
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, I don't know anything about these variables, so I don't know how to view or set them, fyi.
[07:56] <apollyon> do you have a 64bit OS?
[07:56] <god> Yeah
[07:56] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: you would set DISPLAY to be "localhost:0" - and if the remote machine's X server is poorly configured it will let you pop up windows
[07:56] <fangorious> SweetestSavage: have you googled it?
[07:56] <apollyon> then it will compile it as such
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, But how does on "set DISPLAY"?
[07:56] <apollyon> as long as you have the corresponding 64bit libraries
[07:57] <SweetestSavage> fangorious, no I didn't know that was an efficient way of finding packages, I will try that, thanks
[07:57] <apollyon> which should come with your install
[07:57] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: one runs "export DISPLAY=localhost:0"
[07:57] <fangorious> SweetestSavage: well, it might tell you what that lib is packaged with, then you can run apt-cache search to see if there's a package for it inthe repos
[07:58] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: there's no libavformat.so in ubuntu.  you've got binaries for the wrong distro I'd guess
[07:58] <Mabus06> fangorious, can you check that command for a typo? it only gave me the usage for the command
[07:58] <Mabus06> sudo update-rc.d ssh on
[07:58] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, nah I've had it working before.. it's StepMania again, I had to reformat with 32-bit Ubuntu
[07:58] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: or if you use csh/tcsh you would run 'setenv DISPLAY localhost:0' (but most distros default to bash, so dooglus's command would work)
[07:58] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, or wait.. well you might be right =)
[07:58] <dooglus> SweetestSavage: heh.  it's you again, eh?  :)
[07:58] <dooglus> still dancin'?
[07:59] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, haha, yep. There's no source, that sucks. Ah well.
[07:59] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, haha, yep of course.
[07:59] <Badm4n> need help. i'm using ubuntu 5.10, with internet connection LIMITED ... what the name of packaged so i can monitoring how much bandwitdh that i use in a month cause if i use mrtg the data is not valid for monthly report :( .....
[07:59] <fangorious> Mabus06: use defaults instead of on
[07:59] <SweetestSavage> It's a special binary of Linux, suppose I'll just go get another version of the program
[07:59] <devwal> can anyone help me install ubuntu on my external firewire drive -- OS X?
[07:59] <apollyon> install gcc-4.0-base, gcc-4.0,  g++-4.0,
[07:59] <devwal> Puhleez?
[07:59] <SweetestSavage> dooglus, there IS a libavformat-dev, is it possible to build a working library from this?
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, fangorious: Okay, I think I got that.  How do I view it still though?
[07:59] <Mabus06> fangorious, already exist, I assume that means it already starts up by default?
[07:59] <fangorious> Mabus06: yes
[08:00] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: well, you can't put it on two DISPLAYs (that I'm aware of)
[08:00] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: view what?  the current value?  you "printenv DISPLAY"
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, Yes, that's what I meant.
[08:00] <fangorious> tonyyarusso: I would think creating a file on their desktop titled "i'm watching you" would be more unnerving than random apps starting
[08:01] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, All right.  That would be cool, but I can use VNC when I need that.
[08:01] <timfrost> tonyyarusso, dooglus, SSH uses :10 by default.
[08:01] <tonyyarusso> fangorious, I like it.  I like it a lot.
[08:01] <ardchoille> How does one install xfce in Ubuntu 5.10? Is there a single package that I can install that will bring all of the xfce desktop with it? Or, do I need to track down deps?
[08:01] <Mabus06> lol tonyyarusso are we both up to the same hijinx?
[08:01] <dooglus> ardchoille: "xubuntu-desktop"
[08:01] <fangorious> the port can be changed in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[08:01] <tonyyarusso> Mabus06, Close.
[08:02] <ardchoille> dooglus: Thank you :)
[08:02] <dooglus> ardchoille: welcome.  try it, it's nicely put together :)
[08:02] <s_spiff> ! psi
[08:02] <ubotu> s_spiff: I don't know
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> Mabus06, I would mainly be using remote access things to help teach a friend a new OS, but I might as well have some fun while I'm at it, right?
[08:02] <jiangguowei_> accessories/dictionary,it report:cannot connect to server .How can I use this ?
[08:02] <Mabus06> tonyyarusso, same here :)
[08:03] <s_spiff> anyone ? whats a psi? the desklet gui, talks of desklets with psi themes..or based on psi something..
[08:03] <fangorious> well, i'm turning in for the night, good luck all!
[08:03] <Mabus06> thanks a ton fangorious
[08:03] <Mabus06> you too dooglus
[08:03] <tonyyarusso> Mabus06, Sweet.
[08:03] <fangorious> s_spiff: psi is a jabber app written in qt. psi.sf.net
[08:03] <tonyyarusso> Goodnight fangorious, thanks.
[08:04] <s_spiff> umm ok..
[08:04] <Badm4n> need help. i'm using ubuntu 5.10, with internet connection LIMITED ... what the name of packaged so i can monitoring how much bandwitdh that i use in a month cause if i use mrtg the data is not valid for monthly report :( .....
[08:05] <timfrost> Badm4n, what is wrong with the mrtg data?
[08:06] <i_am> any girl in thsi side
[08:06] <XiCillin> anybody use mldonkey
[08:06] <XiCillin> ?
[08:07] <devwal> can anyone help me install ubuntu on my external firewire drive -- OS X?
[08:09] <julian> wats better mplayer or vlc player
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> julian, I like vlc for the simplicity of its interface, but mplayer is well-functional.
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> julian, I actually use both, depending on my mood.
[08:10] <julian> tony, how did u install mplayer
[08:10] <julian> its been a pain
[08:10] <Mabus06> how do I find my computer's local ip?
[08:11] <K_Dallas> why not install both and see if for oneself?
[08:11] <glyph> where do I set my locale to specify that I want to use UTF-8?
[08:11] <julian> i have vlc
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> julian: sudo apt-get install mplayer-386.
[08:12] <julian> but cant intall mplayer
[08:12] <tonyyarusso> julian, What's your error?
[08:12] <K_Dallas> canot you dont want to
[08:13] <XiCillin> anybody know how to configure mldonkey and its core
[08:14] <SweetestSavage> Does anyone know how to connect to a local windows network? Via terminal?
[08:14] <K_Dallas> Q: how can i make nautilus to show the complete path in its bar and not just tabs of ech folder?
[08:14] <timfrost> Mabus06, depends on what you mean.  The IP on your actual ethernet card is shown by ipconfig eth0.  If your ADSL/CABLE/Whatever is hidng the IP address behind a NAT, try http://www.myipaddress.com/
[08:15] <Badm4n> mrtg cannot give me the valid total usages...
[08:15] <julian> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:15] <julian> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:15] <Badm4n> timfrost, mrtg cannot give me the valid total usages...
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> julian: Are you trying to use apt through the command line while Synaptic is open?
[08:16] <julian> cool its dl
[08:16] <Badm4n> need help. i'm using ubuntu 5.10, with internet connection LIMITED ... what the name of packaged so i can monitoring how much bandwitdh that i use in a month cause if i use mrtg the data is not valid for monthly report :( .....
[08:17] <Badm4n> any1 ? have a information for me ?
[08:17] <nnonix> Anyone have any insight into a keyboard problem I'm having where the C, G & H keys are entering cryptic info while all the other keys work fine. For example, pressing the C key results in "BC" being entered.
[08:18] <tomaj> Is it possible to use ubuntu for network load balancing using two NICs?
[08:18] <yggdrasil_> whats up guys
[08:18] <specialbuddy> how do I bring up root
[08:18] <tomaj> nnonix, you have entered the wrong keyboard into settings
[08:18] !lilo:*! small regional server routing died, about 50 users affected
[08:18] <tomaj> specialbuddy, you use sudo
[08:18] <specialbuddy> ok
[08:18] !lilo:*! and I swallowed some toothpaste, but you don't care about that :)
[08:19] <nnonix> tomaj: setup defaults which should be correct. I don't know, but figured that if the keyboard layout was incorrect more than 3 keys would be messed up.
[08:19] <specialbuddy> I need to open it from the run command
[08:19] <dooglus> Badm4n: I've been trying to find out how to measure network usage for some time now.  Nobody seems to have a good answer.
[08:19] <specialbuddy> I need a console of some sort
[08:19] <SweetestSavage> Question: With winrar, you can make two-parted or however-many parted files, example, winrar.part1.rar, how do you extract these kind of files with archive manager?
[08:19] <tonyyarusso> For anyone using an IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad (esp. T series, but any responses appreciated): What kind of battery life do you have, and what did you have to do to configure power management for it?
[08:20] <ajmitch> Badm4n: I'd use ipac-ng or similar ip accounting software
[08:20] <nnonix> tomaj: or am I incorrect?
[08:20] <tomaj> nnonix, i'm not sure. it just sounded to me like it might be a keyboard setup error
[08:20] <specialbuddy> does anyone know how to get to a console?
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> specialbuddy, Either Ctrl-Alt-F1 (F7 to return),
[08:20] <tomaj> nnonix, just check to make sure
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> specialbuddy, Or use gnome-terminal (Applications > Accessories > Terminal).
[08:21] !lilo:*! pruning some dlines, expect the odd bot
[08:21] <julian> wats the command to get fonts
[08:21] <tomaj> !fonts
[08:21] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, fonts is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[08:21] <Stork> so does gnome support print screen?
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> specialbuddy, By default ttys 1-6 are consoles, and 7 is your first graphical display, with others you open after that (Such as through Applications > System > New Login) opening on 8 and so on.
[08:22] <tomaj> Stork, what do you mean?
[08:22] <Stork> how can i take a screenshot of my game on ubuntu
[08:22] <tomaj> Is it possible to use ubuntu for network load balancing using two NICs?
[08:22] <Locke> does anyone know anything about the Toshiba Media Center?
[08:22] <tomaj> Stork, print screen button should work
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> Stork, Yes.
[08:23] <tonyyarusso> Stork, You can also do something with export for screenshots.  (Would have to look it up.)
[08:23] <Badm4n> dooglus, so i cant monitoring how much my traffic usages ? :(
[08:23] <specialbuddy> awesome
[08:23] <Stork> and then i paste in an application?
[08:23] <specialbuddy> just learned a bunch tonyya
[08:23] <Stork> also how can i switch from my full screen program back to the desktop?
[08:23] <Badm4n> ajmitch, ipac-ng ? is this can be used to monitoring my bandwidth usages monthly or weekly ?
[08:23] <tonyyarusso> Stork, Mine actually went to "Save screenshot as" by default, but yeah, I'm sure you can do whatever you need to.
[08:23] <tomaj> Stork, try opening a program to alt tab to
[08:23] <ajmitch> Badm4n: yes
[08:24] <ajmitch> Badm4n: assuming you set it up correctly
[08:24] <KeithWeisshar> I'm having a problem with the ubuntu dvd that i burned at 4x
[08:24] <KeithWeisshar> it's unreadable when i insert the dvd
[08:24] <jiangguowei_> accessories/dictionary,it report:cannot connect to server .How can I use this ?
[08:25] <Stork> tomaj, alt-tap doesn't work
[08:25] <Badm4n> ajmitch, when i use this ipac-ng .. is i need to re setup my iptbles ?
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> Stork, With the export thing, you do it on a command line, so you can do things like say on a virtual console that you want a screenshot of display 1 thirty seconds from now, so you have time to arrange things how you want them.
[08:25] <Mabus06> what's the converse command for startx
[08:25] <tomaj> Stork, did you try having a program open in the bg?
[08:25] <KeithWeisshar> my dvd burner locks up when i reload the burned dvd
[08:25] <ajmitch> Badm4n: it uses iptables to keep track of data usage
[08:25] <tomaj> Mabus06, killall xorg
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> tomaj: What is it that you are telling him about with alt tab?
[08:25] <tomaj> tonyyarusso, to get out of a fullscreen program
[08:25] <Stork> if i do ctrl+alt+f1 how do i get back to the gnome screen?
[08:25] <Badm4n> Starting IP Accounting: Error in config file near line 8: syntax error
[08:25] <Badm4n> ipac-ng.
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> tomaj, Oh, I see.
[08:26] <tomaj> Stork, F7
[08:26] <Mabus06> thanks Toma-
[08:26] <Mabus06> tomaj that is
[08:26] <tomaj> Mabus06, np
[08:26] <Stork> ah
[08:26] <tomaj> Mabus06, if you just want to restart use Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[08:26] <tomaj> Mabus06, restart x that is
[08:26] !lilo:*! Thanks to everyone for your concern. I'm drinking lots of water. :)
[08:26] <Mabus06> tomaj nah, I need to do it via the console
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> Stork, You can also (depending on the program, but often works) put it on another workspace, and have a keyboard shortcut for switching workspaces, this leaving it up full screen and easily accessible, but being able to get it out of the way and see other stuff quickly.
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> Stork, Ctrl-Alt-F7, that is of course.
[08:27] <tomaj> Stork, tonyyarusso's idea is actually better than mine
[08:27] <Stork> my ubuntu just crashed ;(
[08:27] <tomaj> Is it possible to use ubuntu for network load balancing using two NICs?
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> Stork, Actually, just Alt-F7 will do it; you only need Ctrl when leaving a graphical display.
[08:28] <Stork> oh ok
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> Stork, Uh oh, how?
[08:28] <Stork> i was playing quake and it froze, so i hit ctrl
[08:28] <ITSa341> anyone willing to help with ndiswrapper?
[08:28] <Stork> i was playing quake and it froze, so i hit ctrl+alt+f1, and nothing happened, so i did a manual restart
[08:29] <SweetestSavage> Does anyone know how to connect to a local windows network? Via terminal?
[08:29] <Set> Does anyone know what promiscuous mode on a wlan card is?
[08:29] <NickZA> ok 2 hrs of googling and im no closer to a solution, can someone pls help me with a myphpadmin error ? cannot load mysql extension
[08:29] <timfrost> !tell timfrost -about freeformats
[08:29] <tomaj> Set, basically your card starts to pimp itself out for money
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> SweetestSavage, Use samba.
[08:30] <sampan> set, it means it's had one too many drinks and will follow home any guy with a bad pickup line that dares to make a pass
[08:30] <tomaj> and tries to fuck as many hecards as possible
[08:30] <SweetestSavage> tonyyarusso, thanks
[08:30] <Mabus06> tomaj, the killall xorg comand didnt work
[08:31] <tomaj> Mabus06, are you using xorg?
[08:31] <boogie> where do i go to learn how to work linux?
[08:31] <Mabus06> Tomaj I assume so
[08:31] <tomaj> try killall x
[08:31] <boogie> they say linux is better than windows?
[08:31] <SweetestSavage> tonyyarusso, how do I use it?
[08:31] <Stork> so how can i make my print screen button save automatically to a file?
[08:31] <Mabus06> tomaj doesn't work either
[08:31] <tomaj> boogie, for reasons other than userfriendlyness
[08:32] <tomaj> Mabus06, i dont know then, killall xorg works for me
[08:32] <tomaj> Is it possible to use ubuntu for network load balancing using two NICs?
[08:32] <boogie> can you play windows based games?
[08:32] <specialbuddy> boogie, yeah
[08:32] <tomaj> boogie you can using cedega
[08:32] <tonyyarusso> SweetestSavage, Now that there is an entirely different can of worms.  First, I'll give you the caveat that I first learned about it last month, mainly from cdubya, so my knowledge base is sketchy at best.
[08:32] <SweetestSavage> tonyyarusso, alrighty
[08:32] <Stork> so how can i make my print screen button save automatically to a file?
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> SweetestSavage, The wiki from !samba will at least get you started.
[08:33] <SweetestSavage> !samba
[08:33] <ubotu> somebody said samba was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[08:33] <boogie> i just tried loading half life 2 and it wouldn't play
[08:33] <specialbuddy> boogie, you can but it's not always easy, I have been trying to play a dvd all night and have had no luck
[08:33] <julian> how do u integrate mplayer into firefox
[08:33] <Mabus06> tomaj, it's in a login shell via ssh I should specify
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> SweetestSavage, After that, man smb, smbclient, smb.conf, etc.
[08:33] <boogie> its driving me nuts
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> SweetestSavage, My main issues were figuring out what to put in smb.conf.
[08:33] <tomaj> Mabus06, do you have permission to shut down xorg through ssh?
[08:33] <tomaj> oh Mabus06 make sure you use sudo
[08:33] <boogie> but my windows has screwed up again, so i'm stuck here
[08:34] <Mabus06> tomaj, did use sudo
[08:34] <boogie> what is cedega?
[08:34] <tomaj> Mabus06, maybe you just dont have permission to killall through ssh
[08:34] <cafuego> whut?
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> boogie: Sorry, noone really answered your initial question.  I'll see if I can pull up something for initial learning...
[08:34] <Set> sampan, tomaj, wow. now I know it all. thanks!
[08:34] <specialbuddy> cedega costs money
[08:34] <Mabus06> tomaj, I did use the -X option to ssh
[08:34] <ssstormy> does anyone know of a repositry that has cvs mplayer?
[08:35] <cafuego> specialbuddy: Windows costs more.
[08:35] <tomaj> Set, any time
[08:35] <ITSa341> grrrr   anyone got time to help me with a D-Link dwl-g122  ??
[08:35] <Mabus06> ITSa341, what's the problem? I have a similar model.
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> boogie, Cedega lets you play certain Windows games under linux, but isn't free.  (But like cafuego said...)
[08:35] <tomaj> cafuego, windows works better for games
[08:35] <sampan> set, ;)  i think though, the principle is the same: your card will accept (or is actively looking for?) any connection/signal it can find
[08:35] <cafuego> tomaj: Rebooting sucks.
[08:35] <specialbuddy> that's true
[08:35] <tomaj> cafuego, performance doesnt
[08:35] <specialbuddy> I just want to play a dvd
[08:35] <Mabus06> tomaj, bill gates does
[08:36] <cafuego> tomaj: The games I play works fine in Cedega.
[08:36] <boogie> hahaha
[08:36] <tomaj> Mabus06, theres no denying that
[08:36] <jiangguowei_> accessories/dictionary,it report:cannot connect to server .How can I use this ?
[08:36] <OX> and windows costs a ton more in HD space, and reb00ting eats it
[08:36] <tonyyarusso> specialbuddy, What's your issue with a dvd?
[08:36] <tomaj> cafuego, it didnt for me thats why i installed windows
[08:36] <OX> id rather use cedega and take the small performance hit
[08:36] <tomaj> plus windows is free as far as im concerned
[08:36] <specialbuddy> it won't play
[08:36] <ITSa341> Mabus   I can get it to load the module and even find an ap but no connection no matter what I try
[08:36] <cafuego> tomaj: Your soul is free?
[08:36] <tomaj> Is it possible to use ubuntu for network load balancing using two NICs?
[08:37] <tomaj> cafuego, i have none
[08:37] <tonyyarusso> boogie, For command line stuff, check out the links in !cli, as well as using <anycommand> --help and man <anycommand> for more information about it.
[08:37] <cafuego> tomaj: Just use bonding
[08:37] <tomaj> cafuego, well i dont really believe in soul per se
[08:37] <tomaj> cafuego, bonding?
[08:37] <boogie> thanks...but i shall return
[08:37] <cafuego> Yes, make linux think both nics are in fact a single nic.
[08:37] <tonyyarusso> tomaj, How is it free for you?  (I had to buy it with my computer, so it wasn't a choice expenditure, but not free either.)
[08:38] <mae> how can you make sed replace changes in the same stream its reading from
[08:38] <cafuego> -i (inplace)
[08:38] <tomaj> tonyyarusso, i cant say that
[08:38] <mae> cafuego you rock!
[08:38] <mae> :)
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> boogie, We look forward to seeing you back.
[08:38] <cafuego> (I think!)
[08:38] <ITSa341> Mabus06 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7058  when I get to number 6 I get errors
[08:38] <cafuego> mae: test that first
[08:39] <mae> cafuego: i tested the sed script on stdout
[08:39] <specialbuddy> windows is free if you get a free copy
[08:39] <mae> works like a charm
[08:39] <specialbuddy> haha
[08:39] <Mabus06> ITSa341, my dlink card worked without drivers
[08:39] <Mabus06> ITSa341, are you sure it's configured properly in network-admin ?
[08:39] <mae> grep -lRi '<script language="javascript">' ./ | xargs sed 's/<script language="javascript">/<script language="javascript" type="text\/javascript">/g'
[08:39] <tomaj> Is it possible to use ubuntu for network load balancing using two NICs?
[08:39] <tonyyarusso> specialbuddy, And by what completely non-legal means are you doing that?
[08:40] <ITSa341> Mabus06  I configured it and activated it.
[08:40] <tomaj> specialbuddy, shh
[08:40] <tomaj> specialbuddy, answering tonyyarusso would be unwise
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> specialbuddy, (If you are.  Sorry to seem accusatory if it was a general comment.)
[08:40] <specialbuddy> well I go to a school where everyone gets laptops so there are lots of copies floating around
[08:40] <Mabus06> ITSa341, configured it properly is the key though :) make sure all the settings on your router match what you setup in network admin
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> tomaj, You make a good point.  I'm not any sort of Microsoft police, but I suppose you don't know that, do you?
[08:41] <tomaj> tonyyarusso, its just unwise to even suggest anything along those terms in public
[08:41] <ITSa341> Mabus06  using the same configurations with this card and I'm here now  :-)
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> tomaj, Point granted.
[08:42] <julian> how do i intergrate mplayer into firefox
[08:42] <specialbuddy> !firefox
[08:42] <specialbuddy> !firefox1.5
[08:42] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> julian, You'll need the plugin.
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> julian, The 1.5 wiki just referenced talks about the plugin, and removing the totem one, so that should start you off.
[08:43] <ITSa341> Mabus06  this is a usb adapter if that helps at all
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> julian, The package name is mozilla-mplayer.
[08:44] <julian> ok
[08:44] <capricous> julian, vlc is good too
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> (It's in multiverse.)
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> Can mplayer let you fit something to the screen size?  Simply choosing full screen just blacks out the rest of the screen around it, rather than expanding.
[08:45] <capricous> tony, you can probley force the image size while @ full screen - at least you can in VLC
[08:47] <sixslap> can anyone here help me
[08:47] <sixslap> hmmmm guess not
[08:47] <tonyyarusso> capricous, Yeah, I've done it in VLC, wondering how it's done if it is in mp.
[08:49] <julian> ok how do i install from tar file
[08:50] <tonyyarusso> julian, If it's a theme there's a different process, but I can walk you through general program installs.
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> julian, Or you can see !source and !compile for information.
[08:51] <capricous> tony, I would like to know also, I tried to "make" a file and it gave me a "gcc compile error" and so I "install gcc" and now when I do "make" it just gives me "directory not found" errors all over the place
[08:52] <capricous> I was trying to install oss2jack but I may want emu10k1 instead
[08:54] <tonyyarusso> julian, Is it .tar.bz2 or .tar.gz?
[08:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Oy - anyone know of a packaged set of Elvish fonts? :D
[08:56] <capricous> I know there are fonts that are made after the lord of the rings language on the swords and rings, but I don't remember the name of the language
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> Uh, that would be a no, PuMpErNiCkLe.  Sorry.
[08:57] <Mabus06> PuMpErNiCkLe, wow, very nerdy ;-)
[08:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> capricous: Do you know of a package in the repos that has them?
[08:57] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mabus06: Yes, thank you :)
[08:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> I'm trying to make a new login theme with the eye of sauron surrounded by the ring instead of the ubuntu logo.
[08:58] <timfrost> capricous. have you installed buid-esential?
[08:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> And around that, on a black background, the words "Dudester" written in Elvish like a ring-projected glow.
[08:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> *word
[08:58] <selinium> PuMpErNiCkLe, http://www.sci.fi/~alboin/tengwartutorial.htm   look in google!
[08:59] <capricous> timfrost: no I havn't but I used apt-get to install make and gcc
[08:59] <PuMpErNiCkLe> selinium: Been there, done that... I was hoping for an official package.
[09:00] <Hmmmm>  hey guys i have an app that needs to use /dev/ptyXX, nay idea how i can get it going in breezy?
[09:01] <refuze2looze> firefox keeps crashing on me when there's embedded media.. is there a way to fix this, or disable embedded media?
[09:02] <timfrost> capricous, build-essential covers the other tools as well.  Yyou need the dependant -dev packages that the thing you are compilig requires
[09:02] <selinium> PuMpErNiCkLe, http://www.acondia.com/font_tengwar/index.html  maybe?
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> refuze2looze, Are you using the totem, mplayer, or vlc plugin?
[09:03] <lyggdrasi> whats up
[09:03] <capricous> timfrost: I see, I'll try installing it all then
[09:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> selinium: nm, I found an online app that transcribes them and outputs as .png :O
[09:03] <selinium> PuMpErNiCkLe, cool!
[09:03] <lyggdrasi> can somone point me to a how to on dual montitor xorg.conf ?
[09:03] <lyggdrasi> how you doing selinium
[09:03] <refuze2looze> tonyyarusso, vlc
[09:03] <selinium> lyggdrasi, not bad, you?
[09:04] <refuze2looze> tonyyarusso, with the mozplugger plugin
[09:04] <lyggdrasi> just kickn it
[09:04] <lyggdrasi> you remember me i had the p900
[09:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> selinium: Amazingly cool... I'm in awe right now :D
[09:04] <timfrost> capricous, try 'sudo apt-get install build-dep oss2jack
[09:04] <timfrost> '
[09:04] <selinium> lyggdrasi, cool! Yep How could I forget the tree of life? :)
[09:05] <lyggdrasi> roger
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> refuze2looze, Hmm, I haven't heard of any issues with that, but you could try switching it and see if it helps.
[09:05] <capricous> timfrost: thanks much, I'll try that
[09:05] <lyggdrasi> so any chace on getting some help with dual xorg.conf ?
[09:06] <Mabus06> dual xorg.conf?
[09:06] <refuze2looze> tonyyarusso, i've tried and it didn't help
[09:06] <Mabus06> do you mean 'dual head'?
[09:06] <lyggdrasi> uh eh xorg.conf for dual monitors
[09:06] <timfrost> capricous, good luck :)
[09:06] <lyggdrasi> with 2 diffent cards
[09:06] <Mabus06> lyggdrasi, 2 different cards? Nope sorry. I have two monitors on one card.
[09:06] <lyggdrasi> yea
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> refuze2looze, So it's independent of plugin?  Okay...
[09:07] <refuze2looze> tonyyarusso, i've tried the mplayer plugin and i had the same problem
[09:07] <tonyyarusso> refuze2looze, I'm afraid that was the only idea I had.
[09:10] <refuze2looze> why isn't firefox 1.5 on the repositories yet?
[09:10] <timfrost> capricous, what source for oss2jack are you using?  I can't find a source for it, so can't get build-dep
[09:10] <selinium> PuMpErNiCkLe, Take a look at the unrtf application. Converts rtf font to other formats.
[09:10] <knubbe> refuze2looze:  there are problems with it.
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> refuze2looze, Also because Ubuntu policy is to only include new software in the currently under development release (Dapper), and rely on users moving what they want to backports, so the development team can concentrate their efforts.
[09:12] <refuze2looze> is it available in the backports?
[09:13] <julian> can anyone help me install vmware tools?
[09:13] <Mez> refuze2looze, it's not in backports no - but there are pages on the wiki on howto install the new firefox (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> selinium: okay
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> How can I use apt-cache search to only check versions in a particular repo?
[09:14] <skapl> is there a ubuntu network install?
[09:14] <selinium> PuMpErNiCkLe, Saying that, i just downloaded one of the fonts, and it has rtf and ttf in the zip file
[09:14] <refuze2looze> Mez, thanks
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> skapl, What exactly do you mean by that?
[09:15] <s_spiff{away}> guys need help
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> Just ask, s_spiff{away}.
[09:15] <s_spiff{away}>  i 'm trying to view a blog.. but i cant..
[09:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> selinium: awesome
[09:15] <julian> how do u install vmware tools
[09:16] <skapl> network install
[09:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> selinium: I can work on my theme now :)
[09:16] <timfrost> julian, what Host and what guest OS?
[09:16] <selinium> Cool! Have fun! :)
[09:16] <julian> host is xp guest ubuntu 5.10
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> skapl, Server install, installing on a computer from a network, installing and setting up computers to be uniform on a network, ?
[09:17] <skapl> installing on a computer from a network,
[09:17] <nbound> hmmm how do i get ubuntu to read shared folders from other (windows) computers?
[09:19] <capricous> timfrost: I was planning to compile it from here http://fort.xdas.com/~kor/oss2jack/ using the fusd-kor-1.10-9.tar.gz since it works with the older Kernel ubuntu uses
[09:19] <tonyyarusso> skapl, See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot.
[09:19] <timfrost> julian, tere should be a menuitem in the T VMare app, to make the VMWare tools available to the guest OS. TH Linux VM menu has 'install VMware tools'.  Find that, then your VM should have a tools "cd" in the logical CD drive.
[09:19] <julian> let me try that
[09:20] <julian> ok i c the files in cd drive
[09:20] <lyggdrasi> will xinerama work with fvwm ?
[09:20] <julian> now wat
[09:21] <zho[ngantuk] > anybody know how to auto rollback the user desktop setting?
[09:21] <zho> anybody know how to auto rollback the user desktop setting?
[09:21] <timfrost> julian, that *should* attach the VM CD to the VMware tools drive. It may *not* automount it correctly.
[09:22] <zho> anybody know how to auto rollback the user desktop setting?
[09:22] <julian> i checked my cd drive and it has the vmware tools files there
[09:23] <nbound> hmmm how do i get ubuntu to read shared folders from other (windows) computers?
[09:23] <timfrost> julian, the assi
[09:23] <zho> nbound: Samba
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> nbound, Samba.
[09:23] <julian> ?
[09:25] <gimmulf> What is the best way getting a file when connected to my machine thru Putty to a windows machine
[09:26] <zho> gimmulf: using sftp
[09:26] <zho> gimmulf: using sftp
[09:26] <gimmulf> hmmm ok dont i need an ftp server on the windows machine then
[09:26] <gimmulf> :)
[09:26] <zho> -_-! of course you need ftp server on windows :lol:
[09:27] <gimmulf> :)
[09:27] <julian> ???
[09:27] <nbound> zho, tonyyarusso thanx, also what can i use to access rar files, or give archive manager rar access???
[09:28] <timfrost> julian, theere should be a .tar.gz with the files to install.
[09:29] <julian> yea i see it
[09:29] <julian> wats the command
[09:29] <zho> nbound: http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/RAR_for_Linux/1053350629/2
[09:29] <zho> :LOL:
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> nbound: I'm guessing unrar-free and/or unrar-nonfree.
[09:29] <nbound> thanx again both of u's
[09:29] <zho> you're welcome :D
[09:31] <timfrost> julian, If the VM is ubuntu, you need to browse and install the .tar.gz file.  Once istalled, you need to start 'nohup vmware-toolbox >/dev/null 2>&1 &' in a terminal to get vmware tols working
[09:31] <ihatexp> hi i have download Wine and i cant get it work well i got it to work and umm i installed kazaa but it wont run ?
[09:31] <SweetestSavage> What's the pathname to the xorg.cong file?
[09:31] <SweetestSavage> conf*
[09:31] <theconartist> where is the menu icon for gnome set?
[09:31] <tonyyarusso> SweetestSavage, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:31] <SweetestSavage> Thank you
[09:32] <zho> anybody know how to auto restore gnome desktop setting at startup after somebody change it?
[09:32] <capricous> timfrost: I was planning to compile it from here http://fort.xdas.com/~kor/oss2jack/ using the fusd-kor-1.10-9.tar.gz since it works with the older Kernel ubuntu uses
[09:32] <ihatexp> well ?
[09:33] <timfrost>  julian, to install that tar.gz file, extract it and them run the vmware-install.pl tool.
[09:33] <SweetestSavage> Also, what's the command to configure the x-server?
[09:34] <ihatexp> also i get this
[09:34] <ihatexp> korptix@korptix:/tmp$ rm -f Kazaa Lite Resurrection
[09:34] <ihatexp> korptix@korptix:/tmp$ ls
[09:34] <ihatexp> gconfd-korptix  Kazaa Lite Resurrection  mapping-korptix  orbit-root
[09:34] <ihatexp> gconfd-root     keyring-gZG3N9           orbit-korptix    ssh-SxuffM7755
[09:34] <ihatexp> korptix@korptix:/tmp$
[09:34] <ihatexp> it wont delete ?
[09:34] <Mabus06> SweetestSavage, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:34] <SweetestSavage> Thank you sir =)
[09:34] <Mabus06> ihatexp, use pastebin please
[09:34] <Mabus06> SweetestSavage, backup your xorg.conf first!
[09:34] <ITSa341> ihatexp  why would you want kazaa?   Use limewire or another native linux file sharing program?
[09:34] <siimo> hi anyone have a sempron 64bit pc?  will the amd64 breezy install disk work on it
[09:35] <timfrost> capricous, I haven't dealt with oss2jack so can't advise whether that will work.
[09:35] <ihatexp> ok i will do that
[09:35] <SweetestSavage> Mabus, no worries, it already is.
[09:35] <ihatexp> but how do i remove kazaa now ?
[09:35] <theconartist> how do i get rid of the ubuntu icon on the menu?
[09:35] <ITSa341> ihatexp  much easier :-)
[09:35] <theconartist> iwant it to set to the theme's icon, not the ubuntu one
[09:35] <timfrost> ITSa341, any progress?
[09:35] <theconartist> does anyone know how :?
[09:36] <ihatexp> yes but
[09:36] <ihatexp> but how do i remove kazaa now ?
[09:36] <siimo> hello..
[09:36] <ihatexp> and whats the link for limewire ?
[09:36] <ITSa341> timfrost  I got it to start compiling but then the error just changed  I fixed that and then another error farther along
[09:36] <intelikey> what cd burner is no the install cd ?
[09:36] <cvt|kde> i have kobodeluxe installed but i can't seem to start it
[09:36] <ITSa341> timfrost  I'm in relax mode now. I'll get back to it tomorrow
[09:37] <cvt|kde> intelikey, i think k3b
[09:37] <ihatexp> but how do i remove kazaa now ?
[09:37] <ihatexp> and whats the link for limewire ?
[09:37] <theconartist> nobody knows :(
[09:37] <ITSa341> limewire.com
[09:37] <intelikey> cvt|kde that's kde  would they put that on a gnome system be default ?
[09:38] <ihatexp> ok
[09:38] <ihatexp> and whats the link for limewire ?
[09:38] <ITSa341> but, I can't help ya with the uninstall
[09:38] <ihatexp> ahh sorry
[09:38] <ITSa341> yup
[09:38] <ihatexp> but how do i remove kazaa now ?
[09:38] <cvt|kde> intelikey, not sure, but i saw it in synaptic as installed. looks fun
[09:38] <ITSa341> they have a native linux installer. I ran it and if I can anyone can.
[09:38] <Mabus06> intelikey, serpentine is on by default
[09:38] <Mabus06> intelikey, otherwise, I believe you'd just use 'write to disc'
[09:39] <intelikey> Mabus06 you mean cdrecord ?
[09:39] <ihatexp> "so how do i remove kazaa now ?"
[09:39] <intelikey> k thanks
[09:39] <zdux0012> does anyone know how I can assign a keystroke to highlight the "Applications" menu  ?
[09:39] <Mabus06> intelikey, no, right clicking on a file and writing it to disc. But cdrecord too, maybe. I can't say.
[09:39] <ITSa341> ihatexp  if I remember right, you can uninstall kazaa from wine but I'm a newbie and that was a while ago I used wine and crossover office.
[09:40] <Mabus06> who chats on irc as root? :D
[09:40] <ihatexp> well does anyone else now?
[09:40] <ihatexp> *know
[09:40] <zho> ihatexp: rm -rf kazaa can be?
[09:40] <ihatexp> one sec
[09:41] <zdux0012> also I am trying to get a capture card to work,, is anyone familiar with these or a program called xawtv ?
[09:41] <ihatexp> no
[09:41] <ihatexp> korptix@korptix:/tmp$ rm -rf Kazaa Lite Resurrection
[09:41] <ihatexp> korptix@korptix:/tmp$ ls
[09:41] <ihatexp> gconfd-korptix           keyring-gZG3N9     orbit-korptix
[09:41] <ihatexp> gconfd-root              libgksu1.2-eNf24G  orbit-root
[09:41] <ihatexp> Kazaa Lite Resurrection  mapping-korptix    ssh-SxuffM7755
[09:41] <ihatexp> korptix@korptix:/tmp$
[09:41] <siimo> hi anyone have a sempron 64bit pc?  will the amd64 breezy install disk work on it
[09:41] <zho> zdux0012: what chipset of your tv card?
[09:42] <zho> ihatexp: rm -rf "Kazaa Lite Resurrection" can be?
[09:42] <zdux0012> zho: sorry I am a newbie, it is a PVR-150
[09:42] <zdux0012> zho: does that tell you what you wanted to know?
[09:43] <zho> zdux0012: nope :D
[09:43] <zdux0012> zhop: lspci:  Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
[09:43] <blahbnlah> can someone tell me
[09:44] <blahbnlah> can someone tell me how to enter the refresh rates for my lcd monitor in my xorg.conf file?
[09:44] <zdux0012> zho: xawtv comes up with a blank screen, there is an error message and a warning
[09:45] <ihatexp> and also how do i open rpm format files ?
[09:46] <sudharsh> s
[09:46] <zdux0012> ihatexp: there is a way to convert rpm files,, I think it is a program called alien
[09:46] <sudharsh> ihatexp: use alien
[09:47] <sudharsh> if u wanna open em...any file archiver would do...
[09:47] <sudharsh> installe em usin alien
[09:47] <ihatexp> ok
[09:47] <ihatexp> whats the command line ?
[09:48] <ITSa341> alien filename.rpm filename.deb   or something like that   use alien --help
[09:48] <sudharsh> aline -c <rpm file>
[09:48] <ITSa341> shows examples if my memory is right
[09:49] <sudharsh> of course u must be sudo
[09:49] <devwal> Hey I'm very close to having Ubuntu working on my external firewire hd, the only problem is that Im getting a kernel panic when i start up
[09:49] <devwal> anyone have any advice
[09:49] <zdux0012> zho: does iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder answer your question ?
[09:49] <ihatexp> dude whats the command line ?
[09:50] <sudharsh> ihatexp: sudo apt-get install alien
[09:50] <sudharsh> first...and see if its installed
[09:50] <ihatexp> man
[09:50] <ihatexp> its already installed
[09:50] <sudharsh> k
[09:50] <ihatexp> i wanna convert a file thats rpm ?
[09:50] <sudharsh> sudo alien -c <some rpm>
[09:51] <ihatexp> sec.
[09:51] <blahbnlah> can someone tell me the dpkg command to reconfigure xorg?
[09:52] <blahbnlah> i thought it was sudu dpkg - reconfigure xorg
[09:52] <GNULinuxer> blahbnlah: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[09:52] <GNULinuxer> blahbnlah: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[09:53] <fek> moin
[09:53] <ihatexp> whats deb ?
[09:53] <blahbnlah> GNULinuxer: it says xorg-xserver is not installed?
[09:54] <sudharsh> ihatexp: kinda like rpm for redhat
[09:54] <sudharsh> deb for debian, ubuntu, knoppix.....
[09:54] <s_spiff> ok me back..
[09:54] <ihatexp> and how do i open the file now ?
[09:54] <Seelenzorn> what is the package "ubuntu-standard" and "ubuntu-minimal"? is this a risk to delete (sorry 4 my bad english)
[09:54] <GNULinuxer> blahbnlah: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:54] <s_spiff>  some one tell me ..why a site is not loading as pic
[09:54] <s_spiff>  but only as code!
[09:54] <ihatexp> or install it
[09:54] <s_spiff> http://runway09.rediffblogs.com
[09:54] <sudharsh> ihatexp: to install 'sudo dpkg -i <name of the deb>
[09:54] <GNULinuxer> Seelenzorn: it's a metapackage
[09:55] <Seelenzorn> so i can delte this?
[09:55] <Seelenzorn> delete
[09:55] <GNULinuxer> Seelenzorn: why do you want to delete it?
[09:55] <ihatexp> ok
[09:55] <sudharsh> Seelenzorn:  meta packages are really tweeny weeny
[09:56] <Seelenzorn> i dont use the wireless and bluetooth ..
[09:56] <zho> s_spiff: hey? where is the head of <html>
[09:56] <ihatexp> ahh thanx alot ppl
[09:56] <ihatexp> :)
[09:56] <Seelenzorn> my english suxx... i dont know what how i say it
[09:57] <ITSa341> ihatexp  you'll like limewire
[09:57] <ihatexp> yeh i guess so
[09:57] <blahbnlah> is it possible to use an ipod with ubuntu
[09:57] <nbound> blahbnlah, yes, afaik
[09:57] <sudharsh> Seelenzorn: they r used to logiaclly grp stuff...kinda lika an index
[09:58] <ihatexp> but theres one more thing it wont let me delete a dir ?
[09:58] <blahbnlah> afaik?
[09:58] <nbound> as far as i know
[09:58] <Seelenzorn> mkay
[09:58] <sudharsh> ihatexp: dats because u have the wrong permisiions
[09:58] <blahbnlah> is it possible to use the gnome desktop manager under kubuntu?
[09:58] <ihatexp> sudo -i
[09:58] <ihatexp> im r00t ?
[09:59] <mjr> blahbnlah, yes
[09:59] <nbound> blahbnlah, why didnt u just get ubuntu? ;)
[09:59] <SweetestSavage> Anyone know what package libkdecore.so.4 falls under?
[09:59] <s_spiff> no clue
[10:00] <CarinArr> sweetestsavage, i'd guess one of the kdelibs packages
[10:00] <sudharsh> ihatexp: thers no root in ubuntu....u r the root user
[10:00] <sudharsh> !suo
[10:00] <ubotu> sudharsh: What?
[10:00] <sudharsh> !sudo
[10:00] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:01] <sudharsh> ihatexp: check the link given by ubotu
[10:01] <nbound> ihatexp, u become a super user to do root functions in ubuntu
[10:01] <zho> type 'sudo su' you will be the root :D
[10:01] <zho> then you can login as root :D
[10:02] <gavcos> SweetestSavage, it's kdelibs4c2 (run the command dpkg -S /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4)
[10:02] <zho> must change the password before :D
[10:02] <CarinArr> why do you want change to root
[10:02] <sudharsh> zho: neat.......
[10:02] <ihatexp> ok
[10:02] <CarinArr> why not use sudo
[10:02] <dean_> i was trying to get rid of the synaptics thing on the taskbar but now gaim doesn't show up there either
[10:02] <dean_> how can i get it back? preferably with out the synaptics thing
[10:02] <s_spiff> hey zho, i checked out the template.. of the blog... the <html> head is there...but not there!
[10:03] <s_spiff> as in the pic is not there
[10:03] <ihatexp> thanx
[10:03] <sudharsh> dean_: u dleted the panel
[10:03] <sudharsh> ?
[10:03] <sudharsh> on top.....
[10:03] <dean_> nah just the notification bit
[10:03] <zho> s_spiff: there but not there? i think you're on wrong channel :P
[10:03] <dean_> have it back now
[10:04] <dean_> but i would like to get rid of synaptics from it
[10:04] <s_spiff> lol.. sorry watching a movie..so sort of distracted..
[10:04] <zho> s_spiff: ---> #html
[10:04] <s_spiff> the head's there..
[10:04] <sudharsh> jus remove it...there'll be a dim separator..
[10:04] <s_spiff> but i cant c the page as the '[age' but as html!
[10:04] <sudharsh> u gotta rite click there
[10:05] <sudharsh> and not on the icon itself
[10:05] <SweetestSavage> gavcos, it says /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4 not found
[10:05] <ihatexp> is it ok to have 3 os's install such as koeppix
[10:05] <dean_> i want the notification area because gaim goes up there too
[10:05] <dean_> but i don't want synaptics there :(
[10:05] <ihatexp> i already have xp and ubuntu
[10:05] <sudharsh> dean_: yeah i know
[10:05] <Katie^> erm, is grub the best or is there a better one
[10:06] <zho> s_spiff: maybe something wrong with your template :P
[10:06] <klip> _I_ like GRUB more. =)
[10:06] <sudharsh> dean_: trust me mate...remove the synaptic icon
[10:06] <Katie^> lol
[10:06] <ihatexp> also have this
[10:06] <CarinArr> sweetestsavage, and you've installed kdelibs4c2?
[10:06] <ihatexp> root@korptix:/home/korptix/Desktop# ls
[10:06] <ihatexp> all info      Vegeta the Ultimate - Dragonball Z - DBZ - _Very Sweet___tmp.jpg
[10:06] <ihatexp> all info~     xchat.desktop
[10:07] <ihatexp> whats all info~ ?
[10:07] <bobslaede> hey everybody
[10:07] <ihatexp> all info is a text but whats. ~ ?
[10:07] <zho> ihatexp: did you know? --> Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pasting
[10:07] <bobslaede> anybody tried with ubuntu on an iMac?
[10:07] <ihatexp> nah i didnt know
[10:07] <sudharsh> ihatexp: its kinda like a backup
[10:07] <ihatexp> ohh k
[10:09] <SweetestSavage> CarinArr, yes
[10:10] <CarinArr> sweetestsavage, and does /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4 exist?
[10:10] <gavcos> SweetestSave, do you have /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4.2.0 ?
[10:11] <gavcos> sweetestsavage, on my system /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4 is a symbolic link to /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4.2.0
[10:11] <CarinArr> yeah, same here
[10:11] <SweetestSavage> I don't have it
[10:11] <CarinArr> sweetestsavage, either of them?
[10:11] <SweetestSavage> Neither =(
[10:13] <gavcos> SweetestSavage, what is the output of "dpkg -l | grep kdelibs4c2" on your system?
[10:13] <SweetestSavage> ii  kdelibs4c2                             3.4.3-0ubuntu1                     core libraries for all KDE applications
[10:13] <ihatexp> ok ok
[10:13] <ihatexp> hes my pasteBIN
[10:13] <ihatexp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7059
[10:13] <CarinArr> sweetestsavage, and: dpkg -L kdelibs4c2 | grep libkdeco
[10:13] <CarinArr> ?
[10:13] <SweetestSavage> CarinArr, it doesn't display anything.
[10:13] <bobslaede> anybody with a mac/ppc?
[10:14] <ihatexp> is that the way u complie a .c file ?
[10:14] <CarinArr> sweetestsavage, how about dpkg -L kdelibs4c2
[10:14] <CarinArr> (you might want to use pastebin)
[10:14] <ihatexp> ..
[10:15] <SweetestSavage> !pastebin
[10:15] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:15] <SweetestSavage> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7060
[10:15] <ihatexp> ?
[10:16] <sudharsh> ihatexp: install stdc++
[10:16] <sudharsh> libstdc++
[10:16] <zdux0012__> does anyone know about capture cards? I am getting a blank screen
[10:16] <ihatexp> link ?
[10:16] <sudharsh> and jus a suggestion....dont do it as root
[10:16] <CarinArr> sweetestsavage, er.. odd.. same package as mine but mine has a lot more stuff in it
[10:16] <CarinArr> sweetestsavage, you might want to try reinstalling it
[10:16] <SweetestSavage> CarinArr, yeah, that is odd..
[10:16] <SweetestSavage> CarinArr, I did try that.
[10:17] <SweetestSavage> CarinArr, I used Synaptic though, would the terminal give any different results?
[10:17] <ihatexp> dont do it as root ?
[10:17] <ihatexp> what do u mean sundharsh ?
[10:17] <CarinArr> sweetestsavage, i used synaptic too.. but it shouldn't make a difference anyway
[10:17] <SweetestSavage> CarinArr, bleh. Weird..
[10:17] <ihatexp> also do i have to install "The GNU Standard C++ Library v3"
[10:18] <ihatexp> coz it sayz it already installed
[10:18] <sudharsh> root is for administration only...u mite mess ur system out
[10:18] <CarinArr> sweetestsavage, what repositories are you using?
[10:18] <SweetestSavage> CarinArr, I'll pastebin my servers.list thing.
[10:18] <sudharsh> ihatexp: sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[10:18] <SweetestSavage> CarinArr, oops I forgot, what's the path to it?
[10:18] <ihatexp> how do i logout of root ?
[10:19] <sudharsh> su <ur username>
[10:19] <msi1029> hi i just installed ubuntu on my msi 1029 and i just went to compile ndiswrapper when i realize it doesnt have gcc where can i download gcc so i can install it and get my wireless card working i have no wired connection at the moment
[10:19] <tomaj> is the bonding driver enabled in the ubuntu kernel by default?
[10:19] <ihatexp> also i got this.. korptix@korptix:~$ apt-get install libstdc++5
[10:19] <ihatexp> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[10:19] <ihatexp> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[10:19] <tomaj> how would i find out?
[10:19] <sudharsh> do u hav synatic open
[10:19] <ihatexp> nope
[10:19] <tomaj> ihatexp, close any synaptic updater or synaptic itself
[10:19] <SweetestSavage> !repository
[10:19] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, SweetestSavage
[10:19] <SweetestSavage> Oops.
[10:19] <SweetestSavage> !repositories
[10:19] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:19] <sudharsh> u should use sudo
[10:20] <sudharsh> sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[10:20] <ihatexp> k
[10:20] <ihatexp> ok done
[10:20] <tomaj> how do i find out if the bonding driver is installed in the ubuntu kernel?
[10:20] <sudharsh> sudo apt-get install libstdc++6
[10:20] <sudharsh> sudo apt-get install libc
[10:21] <sudharsh> install these pkgs foist
[10:21] <ihatexp> ok
[10:21] <SweetestSavage> !easysource
[10:21] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:21] <ihatexp> korptix@korptix:~/Desktop$ sudo apt-get install libc
[10:21] <ihatexp> Reading package lists... Done
[10:21] <ihatexp> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:21] <ihatexp> E: Couldn't find package libc
[10:21] <zdux0012__>  can some one help me to set up a tv capture card ?
[10:21] <sudharsh> sudo apt-get install libc6...sorry
[10:22] <CarinArr> sweetestsavage, tbh i do stuff through synaptic mostly.. you can look at what your repositories are through there as well
[10:22] <ihatexp> ok i done that now
[10:22] <ihatexp> but when i complie i still get them error's ?
[10:22] <sudharsh> same errors
[10:22] <sudharsh> ??
[10:22] <SweetestSavage> !pastebin
[10:22] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:23] <SweetestSavage> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7061
[10:23] <ihatexp> yes
[10:23] <sudharsh> ihatexp: well check the terminal...mate and the packages has to be fetched fromt he internet
[10:23] <ihatexp> yeah i did mate
[10:24] <sudharsh> so soon.....
[10:24] <ihatexp> or am i using the wrong command line ?
[10:24] <ihatexp> gcc kaiten.c -o korptix
[10:24] <sudharsh> ihatexp: knaa it doesnt matter
[10:24] <ihatexp> bro i installed them all
[10:24] <sudharsh> sudo apt-get install libc6-dev
[10:24] <ihatexp> k
[10:25] <ihatexp> thanx
[10:25] <ihatexp> i think it works now
[10:25] <sudharsh> ihatexp: dont log into root
[10:25] <sudharsh> avoid it
[10:26] <sudharsh> use sudo instaead to do admin stuff
[10:26] <CarinArr> sweetestsavage, hang on.. just having a look if there's any difference between that package and the one i used
[10:26] <ihatexp> whyz dat?
[10:26] <CarinArr> sweetestsavage, i might be going in the wrong direction on this but it might be worth checking;)
[10:26] <SweetestSavage> CarinArr, alrighty =)
[10:26] <ihatexp> also when i open the file.c it wont let me edit it why?
[10:27] <sudharsh> see....
[10:27] <sudharsh> ihatexp: u have the wrong permisiions
[10:27] <KeithWeisshar> i'm having problems with the ubuntu dvd+r that i burned at 4x
[10:27] <sudharsh> the files must be owned ny root
[10:27] <KeithWeisshar> it's an arita 8x dvd+r disc
[10:27] <sudharsh> try this .
[10:27] <ihatexp> on the file it has a red Lock
[10:27] <KeithWeisshar> i'm unable to read it
[10:28] <sudharsh> chown <usr name> /path/to/file
[10:28] <sudharsh> dont forget sudo
[10:28] <dean_> sudharsh, sorry had to go away, I dunno how to remove jsut the synaptic icon, when i click on the faint bar and select remove the whole thing disappears :(
[10:28] <sudharsh> dean_: do u have th synaptic running
[10:28] <ihatexp> ty
[10:29] <sudharsh> the pkg manager
[10:29] <dean_> i havn't run it my self
[10:29] <dean_> i have the big red icon and lightbulb
[10:29] <sudharsh> k remove the big red icon
[10:29] <dean_> _how_?
[10:29] <CarinArr> sweetestsavage, what's does uname -r say?
[10:29] <sudharsh> go near it...rite click and voila
[10:30] <dean_> that removes the whole notification area which I want to keep!
[10:30] <sudharsh> yes i get do that
[10:30] <kestas> does anyone here know how I can delete all MS-DOS newlines from a file using a shell script? I know ^M is fine when you're in a console but I can't put ^M into a shell script
[10:30] <tomaj> how do you find out if a module is installed in the kernel?
[10:30] <kestas> Seveas, Im looking at you ;p
[10:31] <Mabus06> How do I set my jumpers if I have one drive that has ubuntu on it and another with xp
[10:31] <CarinArr> kestas, could tell you how to do it in vim.. not big on shell scripts tho;)
[10:31] <SweetestSavage> CarinArr, 2.6.12-10-386
[10:31] <CarinArr> sweetestsavage, this is really bizarre
[10:31] <kestas> CarinArr, I'm hoping there's something line \n but for DOS newlines instead of UNIX ones
[10:31] <kestas> \m or something
[10:31] <sudharsh> dean_: after removing.....rite click on the location where u want to add the notification stuff
[10:31] <SweetestSavage> CarinArr, I agree.
[10:31] <mjr> kestas, \r\n
[10:31] <tomaj> Mabus06, you need to set the hdd with ubuntu in it as the booting device in bios
[10:31] <kestas> mjr, cheers
[10:31] <zdux0012__> CarinArr, there is a command that does that
[10:31] <sudharsh> Add to panel > notification region
[10:32] <CarinArr> sweetestsavage, a diff between the package from the ca archive and the package i'm using says they're identical..
[10:32] <CarinArr> so why is yours not complete
[10:32] <CarinArr> heh
[10:32] <SweetestSavage> CarinArr, hmm..
[10:32] <owner> if you install grub ther eis no need to do that tomaj
[10:32] <SweetestSavage> CarinArr, is there deb I can d/l somewhere?
[10:32] <owner> *their
[10:32] <SweetestSavage> CarinArr, I could uninstall this one and install it from a deb and see if that works
[10:32] <Mabus06> tomaj so have the ubuntu one as master and the other as slave?
[10:32] <dean_> sudharsh, that always brought it up, I killall'd update-notifier and brought it back up and its now empty woo! now i just need to stop it loading on start up :)
[10:32] <zdux0012__> CarinArr: I'll look it up
[10:32] <CarinArr> well you can get the debs from : http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdelibs/
[10:32] <CarinArr> mine are from: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdelibs/
[10:32] <tomaj> Mabus06, all you need to do is set the hdd with ubuntu as the boot device
[10:32] <sudharsh> dean_: it wont load
[10:33] <dean_> sudharsh, ever again?
[10:33] <sudharsh> works for me
[10:33] <CarinArr> but it shouldnt' make a difference, i just thought i'd double check it wasn' a weird package on ca.
[10:33] <Mabus06> tomaj, I'm speaking jumper-wise
[10:33] <tomaj> owner, whats grub/how is it used?
[10:33] <sudharsh> yeah..,mate...that thing pissed me off
[10:33] <CarinArr> i had some problesm before with packages from the default mirror
[10:33] <dean_> :)
[10:33] <tomaj> Mabus06, i know, i wouldnt touch them if its already been installed personally
[10:33] <tomaj> Mabus06, you can though
[10:33] <Mabus06> tomaj, it hasnt been installed yet
[10:34] <tomaj> Mabus06, on my system ubuntu drive is master and xp is slave
[10:34] <Mabus06> I'm wondering how I should have the jumpers set up before I do
[10:34] <tomaj> Mabus06, you might run into problems though
[10:34] <tomaj> Mabus06, if you run into problems with installing XP set it to master then install
[10:34] <sudharsh> k me off
[10:34] <tomaj> Mabus06, after that's done set XP drive to slave and ubuntu drive to master then install ubuntu
[10:35] <Mabus06> ty
[10:35] <dean_> how can I stop things from running at startup?
[10:35] <tomaj> Mabus06, ubuntu will automatically recognize xp
[10:35] <CarinArr> kestas, it's the same as vim.. ctrl+v then ctrl+m
[10:35] <tomaj> how do i find out if a certain module was installed in the kernel?
[10:36] <zdux0012__> CarinArr, I can't find it I was just reading about  it today, there is a command to do it
[10:36] <CarinArr> zdux0012__, do what?
[10:37] <zdux0012__> CarinArr, there is a command to covert \r\n to \n or vice-versa
[10:37] <CarinArr> er yes.. i know
[10:37] <zdux0012__> Also a different format for UNIX?
[10:37] <CarinArr> it was kestas that was asking;)
[10:37] <zdux0012__> do you remember it? I'm looking in O'Reilly but can't find it
[10:37] <zdux0012__> oh,, sorry
[10:37] <CarinArr> well i would guess it's like in vim
[10:38] <CarinArr> s/[ctrl+v] [ctrl+m] //
[10:38] <CarinArr> or something of that sort
[10:38] <zdux0012__> do you know if vi was built for a different keyboard? or the standard qwerty?
[10:38] <CarinArr> zdux0012__, dunno.. why you ask?
[10:39] <zdux0012__> ait just seems it must have been,, the keys are so crazy
[10:39] <CarinArr> you reckon
[10:39] <CarinArr> ?
[10:39] <zdux0012__> that's what I suspect,,
[10:39] <CarinArr> i mean.. how are they crazy
[10:39] <zdux0012__> as long as I'm asking you questions, do you know if ubuntu is GNU?
[10:40] <zdux0012__> CarinArr,, I mean not what I would have picked
[10:40] <CarinArr> oh.. heh
[10:40] <CarinArr> i suspect they weren't made for another type of keyboard tho. normally when that's the case you find your hands twisting in odd angles to hit basic key combinations
[10:41] <CarinArr> vim's key combinations aren't uncomfortable, just slightly confusing
[10:41] <zdux0012__> I haven't  seen or used another type
[10:42] <CarinArr> zdux0012__, i would think ubuntu is gnu yes.. i'm hardly an expert with these things but i thought most linuxes were
[10:42] <pinkisntwell> can someone help me with printing? I can't print in ubuntu?
[10:42] <docta_v> what do you mean by GNU?
[10:42] <zdux0012__> I have an idea for a program I want to write but it msut be totally GNU
[10:42] <CarinArr> well i was assuming he meant GNU licence
[10:42] <docta_v> it uses the GNU utility set
[10:42] <Seveas> kestas, dos2unix
[10:43] <docta_v> it's not completely GPL
[10:43] <CarinArr> isn't it?
[10:43] <docta_v> nah...i doubt it
[10:43] <CarinArr> as i said, i was just assuming;)
[10:43] <dean_> how can I remove update-notifier from starting up at boot?
[10:43] <docta_v> almost no distros are 100% GPL software
[10:43] <juri> so, dapper is being interesting again
[10:43] <zdux0012__> actually I'm not sure what is stands for Gnu's not unix,, it means that it is completly open source and usuable by anyone for anything?
[10:43] <juri> any idea about this "Predefined macro file '/usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.3/include/mcpp_gcc40_predef_std.h' is not found" stuff?
[10:44] <SweetestSavage> What exactly is the 686 kernel? Like, how does it differ from the 386?
[10:44] <docta_v> zdux0012__: you should head over to gnu.org and do some reading. the important thing about GNU is the GPL licensee
[10:44] <docta_v> license
[10:44] <zdux0012__> thanks, I'll check it out
[10:44] <Katie^> whats the website for GRUB
[10:44] <Mabus06> SweetestSavage, it's for 64 bit processors instead of 32 bit
[10:44] <Mabus06> iirc
[10:44] <CarinArr> mabus06, er no it isn't
[10:45] <Mabus06> oh?
[10:45] <bobslaede> anybody with experience in the ppc/mac field?
[10:45] <SweetestSavage> Mabus06, yeah, but there's an AMD64 kernel.. so why use that over AMD64?
[10:45] <docta_v> Katie^: http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/
[10:45] <Mabus06> ignore me, Swedish_Chef
[10:45] <Mabus06> SweetestSavage, I mean
[10:45] <CarinArr> 686 = pentiums and celerons
[10:45] <Katie^> Oh die.
[10:45] <dean_> 686 is _NOT_ 64bit
[10:46] <Katie^> I hate peopel like you. Rude, inconsiderate arses.
[10:46] <Mabus06> CarinArr, I use 386 for a pentium.
[10:46] <dean_> 64bit is x86_64
[10:46] <docta_v> Katie^: i search google for "grub"...it's the #1 result
[10:46] <SweetestSavage> Ah =P
[10:46] <Mabus06> Katie^, docta_v read the CoC please.
[10:46] <dean_> Katie^, <3
[10:46] <Katie^> Well, no, he could've just bloody said instead of being a c*ck about it.
[10:46] <Mabus06> !coc
[10:46] <ubotu> well, coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[10:47] <zdux0012__> was "<3" chat slang ?
[10:47] <Mabus06> zdux0012__, it's a heart
[10:47] <CarinArr> correct me if i'm wrong but as faras i know the 386 kernel is the basic one that suits both amds and intels, the 686 is for pentiums/celerons, the k7 for athlons etc
[10:47] <zdux0012__> I am not familiar with almost all chat slang so I try to ask what it is when I see it
[10:47] <Mabus06> CarinArr, I use 386 for a pentium. Should I be using 686?
[10:47] <Katie^> dean_, <3!
[10:48] <CarinArr> aargh.. heh don't ask me;) i was told i should be using 686 for my laptop cause it's a pentium, and the k7 for my desktop cause it's an athlon
[10:48] <onispawn> ls
[10:49] <bobslaede> CarinArr: the Athlon is the AMD k7
[10:49] <bobslaede> so it makes sense
[10:49] <pinkisntwell> can someone help me with printing? I can't print in ubuntu?
[10:49] <ardchoille> floating panels in gnome: http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7031/screenshot6jz.jpg  :)
[10:49] <bobslaede> but its also an 686
[10:49] <docta_v> i'm not following the CoC? just referring a user to a relevant website
[10:49] <zdux0012__> I thought 686 was for amd, and 386 was for pentiums,, I suspected was a 32 / 64 bit thing. But actually I don't know
[10:50] <Mabus06> docta_v, if you think you were following the coc you need to reread it
[10:50] <bobslaede> and the pentium4 is also a 686
[10:50] <Mabus06> bobslaede, I am using a p4, but using 386
[10:50] <Mabus06> What's the disadvantage to me?
[10:50] <zdux0012__> which prooves that I don't know 383 vs 686
[10:51] <bobslaede> you could probably use the 686, wouldnt do no harm i spose
[10:51] <Mabus06> could probably? What's the advantage?
[10:51] <CarinArr> bobslaede, you might be right about the athlon being a 686 too, just based what i just said on the information of the 686 and k7 image packages
[10:51] <bobslaede> Mabus06: it would probably be able to use more of the cpu power, or what ever its called
[10:51] <bobslaede> the Athlon is a 686 as far as i know
[10:51] <bobslaede> but i usually just use the 386 kernel anywho
[10:52] <bobslaede> that always works for me
[10:52] <Mabus06> Is it worth a few hours downloading and reinstalling ubuntu over?
[10:52] <bobslaede> Mabus06: why not just the kernel image
[10:52] <CarinArr> i was told to use the 686 and k7 for speedup.. not sure if i've noticed any but i seldom use my systems to the extent where it would show much
[10:52] <Mabus06> Why not? Dunno. Why? What is that?
[10:52] <preglow> hi, i need to compile my own kernel with better realtime caps, and special version i should use for ubuntu, or can i use whatever is newest?
[10:52] <bobslaede> Mabus06: the basic kernel, no need to reinstall the whole sytstem
[10:52] <Katie^> configure: error: Could not find yacc < what's Yacc?
[10:53] <bobslaede> system*
[10:53] <Mabus06> bobslaede, so what do I do to 'upgrade'?
[10:53] <bobslaede> Mabus06: apt-get it, it should configure your bootloader, or you might have to do that your self, depends i spose
[10:53] <Marlun> In the wiki page which tell you how to install LAMP it says in the description that it will install MySQL 4.1, but later they do "apt-get install mysql-server" when I can see that theres a "mysql-server-4.1" available. If I want the 4.1 version, should I install "mysql-server-4.1" instead? or are they the same?
[10:53] <bobslaede> You can then boot both kernels
[10:54] <bobslaede> *either kernels
[10:54] <CarinArr> they will both turn up in grub and you can choose between them
[10:54] <Mabus06> I can? Will it make me each boot?
[10:54] <Mabus06> Or will it just use one by default
[10:54] <Mabus06> which I can override
[10:54] <bobslaede> it will use  your current as default
[10:54] <bobslaede> and you can choose the new one when booting
[10:55] <Mabus06> Ah well, I rarely use over 10 percent of my cpu anyway.
[10:55] <bobslaede> try it out :)
[10:55] <CarinArr> actually i think it will use the new one as default won't it?
[10:55] <bobslaede> hmm.. it might
[10:55] <Mabus06> bobslaede, I'm doing a bunch of installing right now so maybe
[10:55] <SweetestSavage> CarinArr, it should
[10:55] <bobslaede> yeah, it probably will actually
[10:55] <CarinArr> newly installed stuff normally end up right at the top
[10:56] <bobslaede> yeah... it will...
[10:56] <Mabus06> SweetestSavage, are you a veteran of another distro or something?
[10:56] <bobslaede> i have a bunch of kernels in this one, the newest is the default
[10:56] <CarinArr> lol.. the experts would so pity us atm
[10:56] <bobslaede> yeah :D
[10:56] <SweetestSavage> Mabus06, no, I'm not actually very skilled in Linux. Ubuntu is my first Linux distro, and I've been using it for about a month.
[10:57] <bobslaede> ive been on/off linux since '98... but really not that skilled
[10:57] <Mabus06> SweetestSavage, just wondering why you were asking relatively newbie questions earlier but now you're correcting us about installing new kernels. heh
[10:57] <CarinArr> i've, pathetically, used linux for 7 years, and i've never bothered to dig particularly deep into how things work unless they go wrong
[10:57] <dean__> how can I disabled update-notifier from running on boot?
[10:57] <SweetestSavage> Mabus06, I've done one thing but not the other ;)
[10:57] <bobslaede> CarinArr: i usually mess stuff up, and pick up the phone, using my lifeline... calling a friend
[10:58] <CarinArr> what i do in the office.. "help the poor helpless woman" always works wonders
[10:58] <Mabus06> bobslaede, #ubuntu is my lifeline
[10:58] <Seveas> dean__, remove it from your session (system -> preferences -> session)
[10:58] <bobslaede> Mabus06: :)
[10:58] <bobslaede> just found the chan right now... i need help too :(
[10:58] <Mabus06> right now?
[10:58] <Mabus06> I recall seeing you before I am quite sure.
[10:58] <CarinArr> bobslaede, what you need help with?
[10:58] <bobslaede> right now, or later
[10:59] <bobslaede> powerpc
[10:59] <CarinArr> oh
[10:59] <bobslaede> got sick and tired of macosx
[10:59] <bobslaede> need linux
[10:59] <bobslaede> :D
[10:59] <Seveas> bobslaede, grab an Ubuntu PPC cd and install it
[10:59] <tomaj> how do i find out if a certain module was installed in the kernel?
[10:59] <bobslaede> but my install wont work... or, i installed the whole system
[10:59] <Mabus06> I haven't used a mac since 8th grade.
[10:59] <bobslaede> did that, dvd
[10:59] <Katie^> how do i get a list of devices from the terminal
[10:59] <tomaj> i wana get a mac now that they use intel
[10:59] <bobslaede> it freezes up
[10:59] <Mabus06> Katie^, what sort of devices?
[10:59] <Seveas> tomaj, look in /boot/config-* and in the output of lsmod
[11:00] <tomaj> i reckon macs will soon be able to run windows stuff antively
[11:00] <tomaj> thanks Seveas
[11:00] <Katie^> all of them, i need the name of my hd, wil it just be hda?
[11:00] <Katie^> or what
[11:00] <Katie^> lol
[11:00] <bobslaede> Seveas: i got the dvd
[11:00] <Mabus06> lspci will cover your needs probably, kafeine
[11:00] <bobslaede> installed it last night
[11:00] <Mabus06> oh, for hds and stuff... dunno
[11:00] <olicat> hi all. i've got 4 machines that run software which runs listens on 10 different ports, but i need to access it from outside the network
[11:00] <Seveas> bobslaede, how far does it get?
[11:00] <tomaj> Seveas, isnt lsmod just the active modules?
[11:00] <pinkisntwell> can someone help me with printing? I can't print in ubuntu
[11:00] <bobslaede> Seveas: well, depends, i cant boot X, well i can, but it freezes
[11:01] <bobslaede> Seveas: i can run a terminal while booting, but it freezes
[11:01] <Seveas> tomaj, that's where the /boot/config-* comes in :)
[11:01] <olicat> i can use port forwarding, but would i need to set up port forwarding to each port on each machine ? (30 rules)
[11:01] <bobslaede> believe its something with the ide module, ata module or something
[11:01] <Seveas> olicat, yes
[11:01] <Mabus06> are the canadian repo archives down?
[11:01] <bobslaede> Seveas: during install, the hdd is a scsi, but in macosx its a sataq
[11:01] <bobslaede> sata*
[11:01] <Seveas> bobslaede, boot into recovery mode and check the logs
[11:02] <Seveas> bobslaede, sata and scsi discs both get /dev/sd* names
[11:02] <bobslaede> Seveas: the thing is, i have some seconds before it freezes, its different from each boot
[11:02] <bobslaede> yeah
[11:02] <Seveas> bobslaede, even in recovery mode?
[11:02] <bobslaede> so during install, had to do the expert install, i told it not to load the ide modules, but i think it does, however, theyre not in /etc/modules
[11:03] <bobslaede> Seveas: didnt try that, suddenly it was 2am, and i was tired
[11:03] <Seveas> hehe
[11:03] <Seveas> try it when you're awake then :)
[11:03] <bobslaede> had to get up for work too :)
[11:03] <bobslaede> haha
[11:03] <bobslaede> im at work now
[11:03] <bobslaede> so ill try it tomorrow
[11:03] <Seveas> good plan
[11:03] <bobslaede> when i come home... late christmas party at work today :D
[11:03] <Seveas> without logs we can't do anything about it
[11:03] <Seveas> wow, VERY late :)
[11:04] <bobslaede> :D
[11:04] <olicat> Seveas, cheers. do you have an idea how it would work? the software used to connect to these machines wants to use port 3100 (so 213.154.243.10:3100 goes to 192.168.101.1:3100)?
[11:04] <tomaj> anyone here live in australia and use optus?
[11:04] <bobslaede> going bowling/drinking/eating later
[11:04] <Seveas> olicat, man iptables :)
[11:05] <olicat> Seveas, there's a prob, the machine doing the routinig uses rinetd
[11:05] <Mabus06> are the canadian repo archives down?
[11:05] <bobslaede> Seveas: funny thing though... it stalled when booting the live image too
[11:05] <bobslaede> when entering x, just when it loads gnome
[11:05] <bobslaede> or, just before
[11:06] <iti3g> hi
[11:07] <Katie^> will my hd just be hda? how do i find out
[11:07] <Katie^> and yes ive googled.
[11:07] <Mabus06> bowling and drinking... that could have comical consequences
[11:07] <bobslaede> Katie^: probably
[11:07] <bobslaede> Mabus06: i hope so :)
[11:07] <bobslaede> Mabus06: well, i hope my coworkers will get drunk and act funny, especially my boss
[11:08] <Mabus06> don't throw the ball! ;)
[11:08] <bobslaede> haha
[11:08] <dean__> Seveas, brilliant! :) thanks
[11:08] <Mabus06> Why is it that text appears better on my monitor, but movies and games are better on my TV?
[11:09] <bobslaede> Mabus06: your tv is low res, and your monitor high res. the tv signal is also low res, so you dont notice on the tv, but you do on your monitor
[11:10] <bobslaede> and high res text on a low res monitor doesnt look good
[11:10] <bobslaede> your tv is something 500x400 and proably like 15 hz
[11:10] <Mabus06> can I configure my tv (it has it's own video driver) to make the text better?
[11:11] <bobslaede> Mabus06: lower the res of the text, and dont antialiaze (spell?) it
[11:11] <weedar> I've just got kubuntu installed and working with my wireless adapter (with the help of ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant), but an update will install a new kernel image (2.6.12.10) - will this break anything?
[11:11] <Mabus06> lol this installation message is funny
[11:11] <Mabus06> 'with windows xp you can encrypt your files, so your offline data will be safe'
[11:12] <Mabus06> How do you get hacked when you're offline?
[11:12] <bobslaede> hehe
[11:12] <gavcos> wii finn
[11:12] <bobslaede> Mabus06: windows hacks itself
[11:13] <Mabus06> lol true
[11:13] <tomaj> Mabus06, it means data you store offline ie on your harddrive
[11:13] <tomaj> versus your online data ie stuff you submit when visiting website
[11:13] <korptix> hmm
[11:14] <korptix> i have this tar error
[11:14] <korptix> korptix@korptix:~/Desktop$ tar zxvf scan.tar
[11:14] <korptix> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[11:14] <korptix> tar: Child returned status 1
[11:14] <korptix> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[11:14] <korptix> korptix@korptix:~/Desktop$
[11:14] <bobslaede> korptix: tar xvf
[11:14] <Mabus06> 'if you can read this text, click continue'
[11:14] <bobslaede> not the z
[11:14] <Mabus06> man, windows is retarded
[11:14] <bobslaede> korptix: the z is if its gzipped
[11:14] <bobslaede> Mabus06: lol
[11:14] <korptix> thanx
[11:15] <bobslaede> np
[11:15] <Mabus06> sweet, finally have xp installed
[11:15] <bobslaede> i havent really used windows for like 7-8 months... only in vmplayer for some random IE testing
[11:15] <Mabus06> bobslaede, I plan to use it for games and dvd ripping/burning
[11:16] <korptix> and also how do i tar files ?
[11:16] <bobslaede> Mabus06: :)
[11:16] <bobslaede> korptix: man tar
[11:16] <bobslaede> tar -cvvf foo.tar foo/
[11:16] <bobslaede> tar contents of folder foo in foo.tar
[11:17] <bobslaede> from the man pages
[11:17] <mwe> the - is not needed
[11:17] <dean__> did hoary have alt + f4 assigned to close window?
[11:17] <bobslaede> btw, its not cool to do a recursive gzipping without first making a tarball out of the stuff, it messed alot of stuff up...
[11:18] <korptix> ty
[11:18] <dean__> yea thats great fun eh :)
[11:19] <bobslaede> its a whole bunch of fun
[11:19] <thegladiator> how can I reinstall ubuntu splash ?
[11:21] <korptix> also i cant get into a dir
[11:21] <KeithWeisshar> my newly burned ubuntu dvd isn't working
[11:21] <korptix> all info~                                                         ssh scanner
[11:21] <korptix> kaiten.c                                                          xchat.desktop
[11:21] <korptix> korptix@korptix:~/Desktop$ cd ssh scanner
[11:21] <korptix> bash: cd: ssh: No such file or directory
[11:21] <korptix> korptix@korptix:~/Desktop$
[11:21] <owner> whats not working keith
[11:21] <nbound> korptix, use pastebin
[11:21] <korptix> sure.
[11:21] <KeithWeisshar> i have an 8x dvd+r, could not burn at 8x, burned at 4x sucessfully but is unreadable
[11:22] <nbound> KeithWeisshar, try doin it again at 2x if u want to wait for it
[11:22] <bimberi> korpios: cd ssh\ scanner
[11:22] <Psi-Jack> Hmm.
[11:22] <KeithWeisshar> i already deleted the iso
[11:22] <korptix> k
[11:22] <bimberi> korptix: ^^^^ (sorry korpios)
[11:23] <wckdkl0wn> ubuntu uses .deb files right?
[11:23] <Ng> yes
[11:23] <owner> yes
[11:23] <nbound> KeithWeisshar, lmao, either dload it again, or get the cd iso
[11:23] <wckdkl0wn> k
[11:23] <wckdkl0wn> just wanted to double check
[11:23] <Ng> but that doesn't mean you can just install any .deb file ;)
[11:23] <nbound> wckdkl0wn, yep its based off debian linux =)
[11:23] <Katie^> finally grub is in stalling
[11:24] <Psi-Jack> Konversation is an interesting little IRC client.
[11:24] <Psi-Jack> Not really... powerful, though, it seems. No actual way to script in it, or anything. heh
[11:25] <korptix> i got this error now
[11:25] <korptix> tar: korptix: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
[11:25] <korptix> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[11:25] <korptix> korptix@korptix:~/Desktop/korptix$ tar -cvvf korptix.tar korptix\
[11:25] <korptix> >
[11:25] <korptix> tar: korptix: Cannot stat: No such file or directory
[11:25] <korptix> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[11:25] <korptix> korptix@korptix:~/Desktop/korptix$ tar -cvvf korptix.tar korptix
[11:25] <nbound> korptix, USE PASTEBIN
[11:25] <korptix> ohh k
[11:25] <korptix> my bad
[11:25] <nbound> =P
[11:25] <korptix> ;] 
[11:25] <bobslaede> Psi-Jack: irssi :)
[11:25] <Ng> korptix: if you're trying to tar up the current directory, use "." at the end, not "korptix" - it's saying it can't find that
[11:26] <Psi-Jack> bobslaede: I like a more functional client, myself. :p If there were a KDE front-end for irssi, I might consider it.
[11:26] <de_silva> hello there. ubuntu 5.10 (base system) refuses to install on my pentium 2 computer... any chance of some assistance?
[11:26] <bobslaede> Psi-Jack: i have it set up on a server, i just ssh it
[11:26] <Ng> Psi-Jack: irssi is extremely functional :)
[11:26] <korptix> Nh i did that and it didnt tar all of the files
[11:27] <nbound> de_silva, what error does it say?
[11:27] <korptix> *Ng
[11:27] <Psi-Jack> bobslaede: Heh, on a server, eh? You IRC from a server? Now that's just silly. :)
[11:27] <KeithWeisshar> even with the dvd disk in i still get a message to please insert the cd in the drive even whhen the dvd is already in the drive
[11:27] <bobslaede> Psi-Jack: no no, its advanced
[11:27] <Ng> korptix: go up a directory and try your command again then, but that sounds very unlikely I have to say
[11:27] <blue-frog> Seveas, on some of your package (w32codec), I get permission denied (synaptic). Is that normal today?
[11:27] <de_silva> nbound: unable to install initrd-tools
[11:27] <Seveas> !tell blue-frog about seveas
[11:27] <bobslaede> Psi-Jack: i never have to log off
[11:27] <nbound> de_silva, make sure ur cd isnt damaged =)
[11:28] <blue-frog> seveas am in but have permission denied...
[11:28] <Psi-Jack> bobslaede: Not that that's really always a good thing. :)
[11:28] <korptix> ok wait
[11:28] <korptix> !pastebin
[11:28] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:28] <de_silva> nbound, ok cool i'll try again w/ different cd.... thx
[11:28] <bobslaede> Psi-Jack: sure it is ;)
[11:28] <KeithWeisshar> when i run nero it says no disc inserted even with the ubuntu dvd+r in the drive
[11:28] <thegladiator> how can I change the default brown background color of the ubuntu splash screen ?
[11:28] <nbound> de_silva, no worries =)
[11:28] <KeithWeisshar> i'm running nero cd-dvd speed
[11:28] <thegladiator> i know to change the splash but what about the background ?
[11:28] <lunatech> anyone here with whom I could talk about Ubuntu Asia Tour ?
[11:29] <Ng> thegladiator: it'll be somewhere in the gdm session I think
[11:29] <nbound> KeithWeisshar, why do u run that it slows down ur cd drive...
[11:29] <bobslaede> Psi-Jack: it rocks
[11:29] <hawking> I have neither bluetooth nor any printing device but printing services and bluetooth services are started at startup also tor is started at startup and I  want to prevent those somehow can someone help?
[11:29] <Seveas> lunatech, probably not, better mail them
[11:29] <korptix> ok here you go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7062
[11:30] <Ng> hawking: the servers that run at boot are in /etc/rc2.d/ you can remove the symlinks from there of things you don't want to start
[11:30] <Katie^> ooo
[11:30] <Katie^> i thin it worked
[11:30] <thegladiator> Ng, did you mean system->admin>login screen setup ? it is not there
[11:30] <hawking> Ng : thanks
[11:30] <korptix> Ng ?
[11:30] <Ng> korptix: like I said, use "." instead of "korptix" at the end. you put "*.*" which means any file with a . in it, not . as in the current directory
[11:30] <thegladiator> hawking, you can also install something like bum from the repo's
[11:31] <hawking> thegladiator : you mean bum?
[11:31] <Ng> korptix: notice that the only directories/files in the tarball have . in their name
[11:31] <Psi-Jack> bobslaede: I used to always be on IRC. Wether here, or not. I got over it. :)
[11:31] <thegladiator> hawking, bum = boot up manager
[11:31] <lunatech> thanks Seveas
[11:31] <Ng> thegladiator: no, I mean somewhere in /etc/gdm/
[11:31] <bobslaede> Psi-Jack: me too, but now im back
[11:31] <Psi-Jack> Heh, cool. Konversation supports colored nicks. :D
[11:31] <bobslaede> Psi-Jack: its easy, i can log on from home, or the office
[11:31] <korptix> so what do i use Ng ?
[11:31] <hawking> thegladiator : I know that I just need an easy solution without any proggys :)
[11:31] <Psi-Jack> bobslaede: Heh, what do you do, use screen?
[11:32] <Ng> korptix: to make a tarball of the current directory: "tar cvf foo.tar ."
[11:32] <bobslaede> Psi-Jack: yeah
[11:32] <korptix> Ok
[11:32] <thegladiator> hawking, ah k
[11:32] <bobslaede> Psi-Jack: and a dummy user, no trouble
[11:32] <Ng> hawking: /etc/rc2.d/
[11:32] <Ng> is quite simple
[11:32] <hawking> Ng : cupsys is the printing service right?
[11:33] <Ng> yes
[11:33] <Mabus06> I plugged in another hard drive and now my computer boots really slow... anyone know why
[11:33] <korptix> Ng : can u just give me the command
[11:34] <nbound> Mabus06, it may have made ur other dirve default to PIO mode
[11:34] <hawking> I get this error at startup for like 10 times : "device mapper dmlinear device lookup failed" why is that?
[11:34] <Mabus06> nbound, pio mode?
[11:34] <tikuck> Hi - I'm having problems starting new X sessions after I changed my root partition's size using acronis discdirector. (the error log says that, e.g., creating /dev/X is not possible.)
[11:34] <nbound> Mabus06, its slower than dma access, if it was windows i could tell u how to check
[11:34] <Ng> korptix: I just did!
[11:34] <korptix> well it didnt work sir
[11:34] <preglow> hi, i need to compile my own kernel with better realtime caps. any special version i should use for ubuntu, or can i use whatever is newest?
[11:35] <Mabus06> nbound, and now also the cd I just used to install windows won't work
[11:35] <korptix> ahh wait
[11:35] <tikuck> Changing it back to its original size didn't help (again, using the acronis tool).
[11:35] <nbound> Mabus06, sounds like ur PC has some serious probs =P
[11:35] <tikuck> Anybody have a hint on what to try next?
[11:35] <dean__> !mp3
[11:35] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:35] <Ng> preglow: rebuilding the version in breezy would be your best bet imo
[11:36] <preglow> Ng: then that's what i'll do, thanks
[11:37] <tikuck> no one? =(
[11:38] <som1> there's no way to install ubuntu with a floppy, right? :s
[11:38] <nbound> tikuck, google it maybe
[11:38] <korptix> thanx Ng
[11:38] <Mabus06> som1, not even close lol
[11:38] <BadInput> hello all
[11:38] <bobslaede> som1: you probably could with a net install
[11:39] <Mabus06> som1, I imagine it is 'possible' but you'd have to use many floppies and it would be very hard, way beyond my scope
[11:39] <bobslaede> but another distro might a better choice for that
[11:39] <BadInput> anybody successfully get the ati driver working?
[11:39] <yatesy> yes
[11:39] <BadInput> debian can be installed off the net
[11:39] <nbound> som1, maybe if u had ~600 floppies, and knew what you were doing ;)
[11:39] <bobslaede> BadInput: once apon a time yes
[11:39] <Mabus06> BadInput, any reason why you aren't using fglrx?
[11:39] <tikuck> nbound: ok, I'll try that using elinks. thing is, I don't have anything but a console right now.
[11:39] <bobslaede> BadInput: flgrx or something
[11:39] <som1> haha.
[11:39] <som1> :(
[11:40] <bobslaede> arh, fglrx :p
[11:40] <BadInput> well i have it installed, but its using the mesa opengl instead of the ati gl that the drivers come with and glxgears moves at about 2.1 fps with the mesa open gl :)
[11:41] <yatesy> checked error log? checked kernel module is built and inserted into the kernel?
[11:41] <BadInput> well according to synaptic i don't need it since 5.10 has the module support built in
[11:41] <korptix> i also have Os: Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger"
[11:41] <Mabus06> I'm installing XP on a hard drive which is set to master and I have my other unplugged. I'll then plug my other HD in and set it to master and the xp one to slave, and install ubuntu on the master. Am I about to do something that I will encounter problems with?
[11:41] <korptix> is there an update to a better os ?
[11:41] <Mabus06> korptix, yes and no.
[11:42] <Mabus06> You 'can' use dapper, but it's unstable.
[11:42] <Ng> don't use dapper
[11:42] <Ng> stick with breezy until dapper is released (April)
[11:42] <korptix> anything else ?
[11:42] <Mabus06> Other than 'look at me, I'm using dapper' there's no real reason to use it.
[11:42] <BadInput> meh im never going to be able to play wow :(
[11:42] <korptix> ohh k
[11:42] <bobslaede> Mabus06: yeah
[11:42] <nbound> Mabus06, yes that will work if u want to change boot order each time u wanna change OSes
[11:42] <bobslaede> Mabus06: xp install itself in the mbr of your master harddrive
[11:42] <BadInput> actually it shouldn't matter
[11:42] <nbound> Mabus06, there are easier ways
[11:42] <Mabus06> nbound, huh? how should I have it set up then?
[11:43] <thegladiator> does festival run default when yopu boot into a system ?
[11:43] <BadInput> once xp is installed and then you change it to slave and then install ubuntu grub will add a entry for other os'
[11:43] <Katie^> if grub loads on boot
[11:43] <Katie^> does that mean it works?
[11:43] <Katie^> lol
[11:43] <bobslaede> Mabus06: you probably want to delete the mbr, and use grub to load it
[11:43] <Katie^> i mean it doesnt say anything about partitions or well anything
[11:43] <BadInput> i have a dual boot system just to play wow lol
[11:43] <nbound> Mabus06, id imagine give each a partition on drive one, and share the space on drive 2
[11:43] <thegladiator> is it safe to remove festival while booting ?
[11:43] <Ng> Katie^: does it boot ubuntu? if so, yes ;)
[11:43] <korptix> is it ok if i install koeppix now
[11:43] <nbound> Mabus06, but i havent dualbooted linux with anything yet =)
[11:43] <Mabus06> nbound, I would rather have them on separate drives
[11:44] <korptix> i have xp and ubuntu installed already
[11:44] <Katie^> yes it does
[11:44] <korptix> so it isnt ok ?
[11:44] <Katie^> i wasn't sure if maybe it was supposed to say other things you know, lol
[11:44] <Mabus06> korptix, breezy is the best OS out there right now anyway
[11:44] <korptix> Ok
[11:44] <Katie^> okay, well i have to reboot agani i shall return in a mo
[11:44] <Mabus06> in april or whatever, when dapper is released, get it
[11:44] <nbound> Mabus06, you could put linux on the master and edit GRUB/LILO to boot off the other drive if u tell it too
[11:44] <korptix> aight
[11:44] <tikuck> nbound: problem solved - I just had to remove my ~/.ICEauthority file. thanks for that tip ;)
[11:44] <Ng> kafeine: I think by default it just says "Press ESC for the boot menu" or something like that :)
[11:45] <Ng> err
[11:45] <korptix> and i have a file and its got a red lock on it why?
[11:45] <Ng> bahh
[11:45] <BadInput> since your not root :)
[11:45] <Mabus06> I'm confused by all the conflicting advice.
[11:45] <thegladiator> can I remove festival from boot up ? someone ?
[11:45] <korptix> ...
[11:45] <BadInput> the red lock means that you don' t have the specified permissions to access the file
[11:45] <Ng> thegladiator: if you don't want it to start when your PC boots, yes
[11:45] <nbound> tikuck, i dont remember what i helped you with the irc window doesnt go back that far =P
[11:45] <Mabus06> I want to be able to pick either xp or ubuntu to boot when I'm starting the computer up. I want each OS on different hard drives.
[11:45] <nbound> damn he left
[11:46] <nbound> Mabus06, what i just mentioned before will do that
[11:46] <yatesy> maddler: thats what a boot manager like grub or lilo is for :)
[11:46] <siimo> hi does ubuntu amd64 cd work with sempron 64bit?
[11:46] <yatesy> sorry maddler i mean Mabus06
[11:46] <nbound> siimo, yes i t should
[11:46] <Mabus06> I dont know how to use grub though
[11:46] <thegladiator> Ng, I can run it if its needed from the terminal , yes ?
[11:46] <BadInput> Mabus06, you can do it, install xp on one drive aka master for now, then replace it as slave install ubuntu on the new master hdd after ubuntu installs it will detect the windows xp os and then add a entry to boot from in grub
[11:46] <nbound> siimo, it should work with any x86-64 cpu =)
[11:47] <bobslaede> Mabus06: sorry, it was probably me who was wrong, the mbr shouldnt matter when its on the slave, however, i would delete it
[11:47] <thegladiator> does the service make any considerable difference ?
[11:47] <nbound> Mabus06, what badinput said will get you goin
[11:47] <siimo> ok i will try installing it
[11:47] <thegladiator> I have not yet some across its use in my system , where is it used really ?
[11:47] <Ng> thegladiator: yep, something like "sudo /etc/init.d/festival start"
[11:47] <mwe> siimo: think twice before installing the 64bit version though. there are several problems with the 64bit version
[11:47] <Ng> festival is a speech synthesiser
[11:47] <BadInput> bah got spammed
[11:47] <Mabus06> BadInput, and then I just pick which one I want to use whenever grub comes up?
[11:47] <BadInput> yup
[11:48] <korptix> also how do i check who has loged in my ssh box ?
[11:48] <siimo> mwe, what kind of problems
[11:48] <BadInput> it will show you the linux os' first then it will say other operating systems and windows xp will be there
[11:48] <mwe> siimo: like things not working or only half-working
[11:48] <nbound> Mabus06, yep its as easy as that
[11:48] <thegladiator> time for a reboot
[11:48] <mwe> siimo: flahs, java plugin for example are not working. bad multimedia performance
[11:48] <mwe> flash*
[11:49] <BadInput> Mabus06, what kind of cpu do you have? its weird how ubuntu doesn't allow you to install a 686 kernel from the cd you have to download it afterwards
[11:49] <nbound> mwe, there is a flash workaround isnt there?
[11:49] <siimo> yeah i will run 32bit emulation for flash/java/media
[11:49] <korptix> ok ok hes one more erro
[11:49] <korptix> r
[11:49] <Mabus06> pentium 4, BadInput
[11:49] <BadInput> flash works fine for me
[11:49] <bobslaede> i got flash
[11:49] <BadInput> so once you get in first thing install the 686 kernel
[11:49] <mwe> siimo: you'll have to install a 32bit chroot environment then
[11:49] <nbound> siimo, i run x86-64 version its fine =)
[11:49] <Mabus06> BadInput, but I've been using 386 for the past few months just fine. what's so good about 686
[11:49] <korptix> its limewire http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7063
[11:49] <dean__> korptix, 'users'
[11:49] <BadInput> it has improved support for p4 cpus
[11:50] <nbound> Mabus06, 686 is more optimized
[11:50] <korptix> sorr y?
[11:50] <SweetestSavage> Hey, mwe, I got the problem fixed and my computer is 100% again
[11:50] <korptix> *sorry dean_
[11:50] <dean__> the command users shows who's logged in
[11:50] <korptix> i dont understand what u mran
[11:50] <korptix> ohh k
[11:50] <mwe> siimo: I don't think there's mych point in installing the 64bit version at this point, for the average user.
[11:50] <korptix> what about ip's ?
[11:50] <zuverink> can anyone help me figure out why I cant connect to my machines ftp server, it says connection refused.  I am using proftp.
[11:50] <nbound> mwe, why not?
[11:51] <Ng> korptix: the command "w" will show you who is logged on and from where
[11:51] <SweetestSavage> zuverink, are you connecting with your WAN IP or LAN?
[11:51] <Mabus06> BadInput, any idea why now that I have this new hard drive in instead of my old one the screen where it says '1024mb ram ok' and whatnot sticks for a long time?
[11:51] <siimo> i didnt get a 64bit cpu for running 32bit os
[11:51] <mwe> nbound: because too much stuff is broken or only half working
[11:51] <Katie^> okay
[11:51] <bobslaede> zuverink: use scp :)
[11:51] <dean__> Ng, thats neat
[11:51] <SweetestSavage> siimo, it's unstable and it has a lot less support
[11:51] <korptix> thanx Ng
[11:51] <BadInput> are you using auto detect?
[11:51] <BadInput> for the hdd?
[11:51] <nbound> mwe... its been fine for me
[11:51] <korptix> N: what about this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7063
[11:51] <siimo> yeah i will play around with it
[11:51] <SweetestSavage> siimo, my entire computer crashed after about 2 weeks of using it, due to 32-bit chrooting.. it wasn't good
[11:51] <korptix> *Ng
[11:51] <Mabus06> BadInput, I don't know... I'm having problems and I don't know whats up
[11:51] <zuverink> SweetestSavage: Connecting to local host and tried via lan
[11:51] <SweetestSavage> zuverink, did you configure it properly? Are you connecting to the right port?
[11:52] <BadInput> if you had 2 hdd's in there and its set to auto detect it will sit there looking for the hdd you just removed
[11:52] <Ng> korptix: follow the Sun Java section of the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[11:52] <Mabus06> BadInput, so what do I do
[11:52] <korptix> whats the link ?
[11:52] <nbound> mwe, u can use gflash (??) to do it
[11:52] <BadInput> go into your bios and set them up manually
[11:52] <Ng> mwe: some people might view the lack of flash as a bonus ;)
[11:52] <Ng> mwe: but you could easily run a 32bit firefox
[11:52] <BadInput> usually you can just hit enter on the device and it detects the CHS auto for you
[11:52] <siimo> mwe, from the documentation ive read you can just install 32bit firefox and use flash and java plugins
[11:52] <Mabus06> BadInput, and now it says to put in proper boot device... but it's set to boot from cdrom and the xp cd is in it
[11:52] <zuverink> SweetestSavage: I installed it via synaptic, and I am connecting to the right port.
[11:52] <SweetestSavage> siimo, be warned that it is experimental at best, so you may run into stability issues
[11:52] <BadInput> you got a option for a boot menu?
[11:53] <nbound> mwe, as ng said u can also run 32bit firefox, its the same as u would do on XP x64
[11:53] <mwe> siimo: you cannot just install 32bit firefox. you need a 32bit chroot
[11:53] <Ng> siimo: you can. Personally I went back to the 32bit version because I'm too lazy to do that, but it is entirely possible
[11:53] <siimo> i think blackdown has 64bit java too
[11:53] <zuverink> SweetestSavage: always says connection refused
[11:53] <SweetestSavage> zuverink, hmm that's a little strange. I'm sorry, I only know the basics of FTP servers.
[11:53] <Ng> siimo: blackdown sucks ;)
[11:53] <Mabus06> BadInput, nope... reboot or retry
[11:53] <BadInput> do you hear the cd spin up?
[11:53] <bobslaede> Mabus06: can you boot from your xp disk, if its set to master?
[11:53] <korptix> Ng: whats the link ?
[11:53] <nbound> !restricted formats
[11:53] <ubotu> well, restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[11:53] <siimo> linux is my experimental os anyway
[11:54] <mwe> nbound: so you're saying you don't need 32bit chroot to run ff 32bit on 64bit ubuntu?
[11:54] <mwe> nbound: that's new to me
[11:54] <SweetestSavage> mwe, it's impossible to run 32-bit firefox on 64-bit ubuntu
[11:54] <SweetestSavage> Without chroot
[11:54] <nbound> no i didnt say that :p
[11:54] <zuverink> also, what does it mean when it says "cant stat source package list http://..."
[11:54] <Ng> it's not impossible
[11:54] <mwe> SweetestSavage: that's what I stated
[11:54] <nbound> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-f4b5a0e592cf89fac0bb7f5388c8e1733413af21 <--- flash for x86-64
[11:54] <Ng> you'd probably just need to compile some more compatibility libs yourself
[11:54] <Mabus06> ok BadInput i'm at the ide settings of my bios
[11:55] <Mabus06> do I turn pio mode off or something?
[11:55] <SweetestSavage> Ng, well, yeah. But I don't think everyone here is a C++ programmer =P
[11:55] <jneves> has anyone ever seen evolution stop showing a folder?
[11:55] <mwe> why bother the trouble of 64bit ubuntu?
[11:55] <Mabus06> errr, not off... but to something other than auto?
[11:55] <Ng> SweetestSavage: you wouldn't need to do any programming, just compiling, which is quite a bit different ;)
[11:55] <SweetestSavage> siimo, and if you're thinking about using it for performance.. there's virtually no difference
[11:55] <SweetestSavage> Ng, if you run into errors you may
[11:55] <mwe> you'll get worse performance for multimedia or have to run 32bit chroot
[11:55] <jneves> other folders work - but Inbox doesn't
[11:55] <SweetestSavage> Ng, and if you're compiling from a 32-bit source, you most definitely will
[11:55] <mwe> why not just install 32bit then
[11:55] <Ng> SweetestSavage: rubbish
[11:56] <zuverink> SweetestSavage: what does it mean when it says it cant stat source package list?
[11:56] <SweetestSavage> Ng, how so?
[11:56] <BadInput> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7064 <-- is ther esomething im missing for the vid driver to work properly?
[11:56] <SweetestSavage> zuverink, it means it can't find it
[11:56] <Ng> SweetestSavage: because all of this code compiles in 32bit and 64bit compilers already
[11:56] <bobslaede> Mabus06: check the dma stuff, if thats what its called
[11:56] <bobslaede> or dba
[11:56] <BadInput> well attempt to detect the hdd settings
[11:56] <siimo> because i already run 32bit ubuntu on my athlon xp machine
[11:56] <BadInput> what bios is this?
[11:56] <Mabus06> bobslaede, dma is on auto.. what do I put it at?
[11:56] <zuverink> SweetestSavage: why would it say that, like its gone off the server or something?
[11:56] <mwe> fill your own shoes. Personnaly I don't think 64bit is mature enough for the desktop
[11:56] <SweetestSavage> Ng, well yes, but I'll give you an example. I was compiling a program, StepMania, under 64-bit and I ran into loss of focus issues. I had to hack the source code to get it to work.
[11:56] <BadInput> leave dma as is
[11:56] <Katie^> Anyway, im back, can anyone tell me how to burn a .iso to disc, so that it actually boots, can i just right click the iso say burn but will it botot?
[11:56] <Mabus06> BadInput, I don't know what bios
[11:57] <bobslaede> Mabus06: dont know, off maybe, i had some problems with it once
[11:57] <SweetestSavage> zuverink, not sure, you may want to check that
[11:57] <BadInput> it says on the top what it is.
[11:57] <Ng> SweetestSavage: is stepmania needed to make firefox work? no, so that is irrelevant
[11:57] <bobslaede> but auto should probably work
[11:57] <Mabus06> 'bios setup utility'
[11:57] <SweetestSavage> Ng, no, but it regards compiling issues in general.
[11:57] <Ng> SweetestSavage: no it doesn't
[11:57] <mwe> CarinArr: you're not the first person to do so
[11:57] <SweetestSavage> Ng, how does it not?
[11:57] <BadInput> awesome is this a home built pc or did you buy it from a computer company?
[11:57] <Mabus06> I built it.
[11:57] <BadInput> what motherboard is it?
[11:57] <Mabus06> P4VM800 BIOS p1.20 there we go
[11:58] <CarinArr> tbh, at the moment, when the apps i need to run aren't available in 64 bit yet, there's not much point faffing about
[11:58] <Ng> SweetestSavage: because anything that's already in ubuntu that you just want to recompile already compiles fine in 32bit and 64bit mode. I'm not talking about random third party code.
[11:58] <BadInput> now when you first turn it on does it say american microtrends?
[11:58] <Mabus06> megatrends
[11:58] <SweetestSavage> Ng, Firefox IS third-party. Ubuntu just has it build-in.
[11:58] <SweetestSavage> Ng, I challenge you to get FireFox 1.5 working on 64-bit
[11:58] <mwe> CarinArr: and getting worse performance as well. not not worth it, definately
[11:58] <BadInput> ya the really old version, its a bit fun to get 1.5 working
[11:58] <SweetestSavage> Ng, without chrooting of course
[11:58] <Ng> SweetestSavage: firefox is packaged by ubuntu on both 32bit and 64bit systems, ergo it compiles fine on both, no?
[11:58] <mwe> CarinArr: In a year or so maybe
[11:59] <CarinArr> indeed
[11:59] <Mabus06> Ng, you've been challenged. It's on.
[11:59] <Ng> SweetestSavage: the same must therefore be true of all of its dependencies, no?
[11:59] <CarinArr> wish i'd gone for the dual procs instead;)
[11:59] <SweetestSavage> Ng, it does because there's a 64-bit compile of it available. Try compiling the 32-bit version. Believe me, it more than likely won't work.
[11:59] <siimo> Ng, my friend built firefox 1.5 on 64bit it isnt too hard to compile
[11:59] <mwe> CarinArr: what processor do you have?
[11:59] <CarinArr> that'll teach you to do your research beforehand
[11:59] <Ng> SweetestSavage: dude I ran the 64bit version for months and I know for a fact that I could make the 32bit firefox work on it
[12:00] <CarinArr> Athlon64 3000+
[12:00] <SweetestSavage> Ng, yes, by chrooting, or editting the source codes to get around compile errors.
[12:00] <Ng> SweetestSavage: nope
[12:00] <mwe> Ng: please post a howto. because all I've seen suggests 32bit chroot
[12:00] <SweetestSavage> Ng, 32-bit firefox looks for different libraries.
[12:00] <SweetestSavage> Ng, if they're not there on 64-bit, it will not compile.
[12:00] <Ng> SweetestSavage: oh for fucks sake, I said right at the start that you'd need to compile some 32bit compatibility libraries
[12:00] <Ng> please stop arguing with me if you're not going to read what I say
[12:00] <mwe> CarinArr: well it's dratically faster then the 32bit equiv even in 32bit mode
[12:00] <SweetestSavage> Ng, I'm not arguing. That's merely your outlook of things
[12:01] <mwe> CarinArr: so it's not wasted money
[12:01] <CarinArr> mwe, that's nice to hear
[12:01] <CarinArr> heh
[12:01] <Fructose> What's good for MySQL administration besides phpMyAdmin?
[12:01] <CarinArr> i wouldn't have a clue, my first amd
[12:01] <ccooke> SweetestSavage: you do know that you can run 32 and 64 bit versions of the same libraries without chrooting, right?
[12:01] <nbound> SweetestSavage, arguing, challenign same differnce
[12:01] <ccooke> SweetestSavage: people have been doing that for *years* on the sparc architecture
[12:01] <nbound> challenging*
[12:01] <siimo> AFAIK you need 32bit libs and then theres no need of 32bit chroot for running firefox
[12:01] <SweetestSavage> ccooke, yes I do know that, however, ubuntu 64-bit is 64-bit only, unlike other distro's it doesn't have support for all 32-bit libs
[12:02] <mwe> Ng: I think alot of people would appreciate a guide on how to do it :)
[12:02] <SweetestSavage> Ng, compiling 32-bit libraries isn't as easy as it sounds. Besides, that's just Firefox. What about Macro Flash? Wine? Hmm?
[12:02] <CarinArr> afaik you can get firefox working fine.. flash being a different issue
[12:02] <Ng> SweetestSavage: compiling 32bit libraries is that easy when you've been doing this as long as me, sorry
[12:03] <SweetestSavage> Ng, not everyone has been using Linux as long as you.
[12:03] <SweetestSavage> Ng, that statement is irrelevant
[12:03] <Ng> SweetestSavage: I didn't say it was easy or quick, I said it was possible
[12:03] <nbound> SweetestSavage, u can use gplflash or swfdec for flash on AMD64
[12:03] <SweetestSavage> nbound, and those are compatible with Firefox?
[12:03] <nbound> yes
[12:04] <nbound> !restricted formats
[12:04] <mwe> nbound: nah it wont work with most flash movies
[12:04] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted formats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[12:04] <SweetestSavage> nbound, if so, then why is there no documentation on them?
[12:04] <CarinArr> anyhoo.. for me there's no point when the software that's actually demanding are all 32 bit anyway
[12:04] <ccooke> nbound: actually, there's a new gpl flash player
[12:04] <ccooke> nbound: supposed to use opengl output and supporting flash version 7...
[12:04] <BadInput> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7064 <-- is ther esomething im missing since im using the wrong open gl for the ati driver?
[12:04] <Ng> yeah, gnu released it in the last few days
[12:04] <mwe> CarinArr: right :)
[12:04] <skeff> hi! I've used the nvidia program I got off nvidia.com to compile and install new nvidia drivers.  But now the X server won't start, stuck at it not being able to load module libfb.a:fbmmx.o: No symbols found.  What can I do to fix this?
[12:04] <nbound> read the restricted formats... its only buggy if u get it through synaptic
[12:04] <mjr> bzzt, gnash isn't _released_, the project was just announced
[12:04] <SweetestSavage> skeff, there's a much easier and painless way of installing your nVidia video card
[12:04] <BadInput> skeff did you install the kernel headers and something else?
[12:04] <nbound> skeff, did u run the xconfig program from nvidia too ;)
[12:05] <CarinArr> skeff, did you purge the nvidia and restricted-modules packages?
[12:05] <mjr> and incidentally, gnash doesn't support 64-bit archs yet :] 
[12:05] <ccooke> mjr: damn, I thought they'd actually released some code
[12:05] <Ng> they have, just not release quality code ;)
[12:05] <skeff> BadInput: yes, nbound no why should I, CarinArr what??
[12:05] <CarinArr> badinput, if he didn't, he wouldn't have been able to install the driver in the first place
[12:05] <mwe> CarinArr: but your syslogd and stuff will probably be a bit faster in 64bit ubuntu :) Not that you'll notice it, probably
[12:05] <ccooke> mjr: ah. talking it up. Bah.
[12:05] <SweetestSavage> Anyways, Ng, it is impossible to argue the fact that all 32-bit programs available for Linux will work on Ubuntu 64-bit. Just not gonna happen, sorry.
[12:06] <nbound> skeff, it configures it for the driver
[12:06] <nbound> =P
[12:06] <Ng> SweetestSavage: I'm pretty sure that's not what I was arguing at all. I think we should end this as it is offtopic and extremely annoying
[12:06] <skeff> nbound: yeah well, all I need is Driver "nvidia", right?
[12:06] <CarinArr> skeff, sorry, jumped a mental step. Did you have the packaged nvidia drivers installed before by any chance? that's what cause mine to have that problem
[12:06] <SweetestSavage> Ng, you're only taking it that way because you're letting it. It's quite entertaining to me, anyways.
[12:06] <nbound> Flash for AMD64 for anyone whos wondering ;) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-f4b5a0e592cf89fac0bb7f5388c8e1733413af21
[12:06] <CarinArr> skeff, you also need "Load "glx""
[12:06] <nbound> what CarinArr said
[12:07] <dean__> skeff: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074 read that HOWTO, its great, and if you get really stuck a post will most likely get you answers
[12:07] <Ng> SweetestSavage: you enjoy being mostly wrong? ;)
[12:07] <nbound> skeff, there is a walkthrough to do it manually somewhere on nvidias site
[12:07] <skeff> CarinArr: yeah I did install the nvidia drivers thru Ubuntu repository first, and I do have Load "glx".  How do I "purge" the old ones then?
[12:07] <dean__> and # out GLcore and dri, read that howto! :)
[12:07] <SweetestSavage> Ng, I'm not mostly wrong. You're just trying to argue a fact I'm not even explaining. It's a misinterpretation, actually.
[12:07] <dean__> are packages compressed?
[12:07] <nbound> skeff, oh u got them from synaptic
[12:08] <CarinArr> skeff, right.. in the nvidia howto thread on ubuntuforums.org it tells you how to purge the nvidia drivers and the restricted modules packages
[12:08] <skeff> nbound: no the _new_ drivers. I compiled and installed them with the script thing from nvidia.com
[12:08] <BadInput> hmm should i have removed the ati drivers/restricted modules also?
[12:08] <CarinArr> skeff, i was having the problem because i thought i'd purged them all but obviously missed out the nvidia-glx ones, i'd uninstalled it but not purged it
[12:08] <turbofisk> I'm having trouble getting artwiz to work on my machine... It shows up with xlsfonts and xfontsel, but I can't use it with fluxbox... anyone got any ideas?
[12:08] <nbound> skeff, then run the config thing from nvidia it will edit ur xorg.conf so its all good
[12:08] <korptix> ok Ng
[12:09] <korptix> i got this error now man http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7065
[12:09] <mwe> Ng: how do the compatiblity libs work? By translating 32bit calls to 64bit ones?
[12:09] <CarinArr> nbound, yeah but if he first installed the drivers through synpatic and now from the nvidia website, that'll prolly be what's causing him problems
[12:09] <_Rappy_> anyone know a good place to learn about cronjobs? (the newbie way)
[12:09] <Ng> korptix: you need to enable the universe and multiverse repositories, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:10] <dean__> tried googlign for "cron tutorial" etc?
[12:10] <mwe> _Rappy_: man crontab
[12:10] <korptix> yeh i did that
[12:10] <korptix> ill take a screen shot if u want
[12:10] <nbound> CarinArr, then he should remove the old driver packages then
[12:10] <Ng> mwe: nope, the x86-64 architecture implements the full 32bit instruction set, the code runs natively
[12:10] <mwe> _Rappy_: it explains it
[12:10] <CarinArr> nbound, indeed
[12:10] <nbound> which would be apt-get -r nvidia-glx
[12:10] <_Rappy_> dean__ : yes :9 just knew if anyone had a good booksmark lying. I always google before asking dunb questions. :)
[12:10] <mwe> Ng: ok.
[12:10] <CarinArr> he also needs to purge them though
[12:11] <CarinArr> cause simply removing them leaves configuration files that mess up the other drivers
[12:11] <dean__> _Rappy_, cool, not everyone does ;)
[12:11] <CarinArr> which i would think is the reason why it's crashing atm
[12:11] <nbound> CarinArr, i dunno bout doin that, u'll be teaching me too so go ahed
[12:11] <mwe> Ng: so the hazzle is about libraries not understanding the 32bit calls?
[12:11] <Ng> mwe: it's possible that the chip itself translates 32bit instructions to 64bit, I'm not a hardware guy so I don't know about the implementation ;)
[12:11] <_Rappy_> mwe, I know of the manfunction. However, I find most of them not good. (man whatever is btw the most sommon answer when you ask linuxrelate questions :-\)
[12:12] <mwe> _Rappy_: I think man crontab is pretty readable, but you're right
[12:12] <Ng> mwe: yeah, the 64bit libraries can't be linked at runtime against a 32bit executable, so anything you want to run in 32bit mode needs to be able to find 32bit versions of the libraries it needs
[12:12] <korptix> Ng: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7066
[12:12] <skeff> CarinArr: just add --purge to the apt-get -r(emove) command?
[12:12] <mwe> Ng: that makes sense
[12:12] <CarinArr> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=652688&postcount=657
[12:13] <CarinArr> skeff, that's what you need to do
[12:13] <BadInput> maybe i should purge the ati drivers from my config and reinstall the ones from ati again
[12:13] <korptix> Ng ?
[12:13] <mwe> _rappy_: I didn't mean to be a smartass
[12:13] <Ng> korptix: what?
[12:13] <korptix> Ng: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7066
[12:13] <dean__> where are the w32 codecs installed? I have the same version of the deb lot on the wikipage of Restricted formats, but in tar.gz
[12:13] <Ng> korptix: did you hit the Reload button in synaptic after enabling the extra repositories?
[12:13] <korptix> it not working
[12:13] <korptix> yes
[12:14] <CarinArr> skeff, after that i would uninstall the newer drivers.. you do that with the .run package from nvidia with --uninstall after
[12:14] <SweetestSavage> What does this mean: checking build system type... configure: error: cannot guess build type; you must specify one ? And, how do I specify one?
[12:14] <CarinArr> skeff, it might be it doesn't manage to remove some of the stuff so you'll want to check /var/log/nvidia-installer.log
[12:14] <Ng> korptix: please paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin
[12:14] <nbound> hmmm xine-totem seems to crash on audio files =/
[12:14] <korptix> Ok
[12:14] <mwe> SweetestSavage: what's giving you that?
[12:14] <SweetestSavage> mwe, ZSnes ./configure
[12:15] <Fructose> I installed MySQL, but it won't allow me to create foreign keys for some reason. Anyone had this problem?
[12:15] <Marlun> Anyone who knows why http://localhost/manual/ is not working for me? I just intalled apache2.
[12:15] <Mabus06> you can install zsnes on ubunu?
[12:15] <Mabus06> native or with wine?
[12:15] <korptix> Ng: root@korptix:~# gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:15] <korptix> (gedit:17803): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[12:15] <korptix> root@korptix:~#
[12:15] <Marlun> I also installed apache2-doc now.
[12:15] <SweetestSavage> Mabus06, there's a Linux source binary available
[12:15] <mwe> SweetestSavage: try ./configure --help|less. you probably need something like ./configure --build-type=foobar or something
[12:16] <Fructose> Mabus06: I've installed zsnes
[12:16] <mwe> SweetestSavage: maybe INSTALL or README tells you what you need to do?
[12:16] <Seveas> korptix, as *normal* user: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sourceslist
[12:16] <Seveas> korptix, as *normal* user: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:16] <BadInput> zophar.net has a bunch of emulators for diff os's
[12:17] <Mabus06> what's a good gameboy emulator? I've never found a good one
[12:17] <mwe> korptix: if you go to a root prompt, root is not allowed to access the user's X session. also $DISPLAY is not set
[12:17] <Mabus06> Every few years I get a nostalgic urge to play pokemon
[12:17] <korptix> dude im new to linux sorry
[12:18] <korptix> Ng: korptix@korptix:/$ gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:18] <korptix> (gksudo:17912): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[12:18] <korptix> korptix@korptix:/$
[12:18] <Ng> korptix: you can just do "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:18] <korptix> yea
[12:18] <Ng> and paste from the terminal into the pastebin
[12:18] <mwe> korptix: do it as normal user, not as root
[12:18] <mwe> korptix: root has the problems I just explained
[12:19] <Seveas> mwe he did...
[12:19] <korptix> ok
[12:19] <korptix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7067
[12:19] <mwe> Seveas: oh
[12:19] <korptix> :O
[12:19] <nbound> where does xmms install itself to?
[12:19] <CarinArr> skeff, you getting on okay?
[12:19] <Seveas> nbound, dpkg -L xmms
[12:19] <Ng> korptix: you don't seem to have enabled all of the universe/multiverse stuff
[12:19] <korptix> so what do i do Ng:
[12:20] <mwe> nbound: /usr/bin/xmms ?
[12:20] <Seveas> korptix, look at post 6047 on the pastebin
[12:20] <Seveas> that's a complette breezy list
[12:20] <CarinArr> sweetestsavage, did you figure out the libkdecore thing?
[12:20] <SweetestSavage> CarinArr, no
[12:20] <korptix> Seceas: so i copy paste the one from pastebin ?
[12:20] <BadInput> well gonna see if this works now
[12:20] <BadInput> brb
[12:20] <nbound> mwe, hmm ill check there
[12:20] <skeff> CarinArr: give me a sec ;)
[12:21] <mwe> nbound: just type xmms at the terminal
[12:21] <CarinArr> just checking skeff;)
[12:21] <ktogias> Hi, I have Ubuntu Breezy. Suddenly Gnome refuses to show under "Places -> Computer" and automount any usb mass storage disks I plug... The usb disks are listed in fdisk -l output once plugged, but nothing else happens. I tryed restarting hotplug and dbus (that restarted HALd) but the problem remains... Any clue before I try a reboot?
[12:21] <korptix> ...
[12:21] <nbound> nbound, nah i had to use it to stream a file from a website
[12:21] <nbound> mwe, nah i had to use it to stream a file from a website
[12:22] <Seveas> ktogias, what's the outpuy of 'id'
[12:22] <mwe> nbound: ok
[12:23] <ktogias> Seveas, I don't understand your question: You want the output of what?
[12:23] <_jason> when I run 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list', gedit likes to try to open: /home/jasonr/'/etc/apt/sources.list' which of course fails.  Does this happen to everyone?  I also get the follow error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7068
[12:23] <Seveas> ktogias, 'id' is a command you can run in the terminal
[12:23] <korptix> Seceas: so i copy paste the one from pastebin ?
[12:23] <Seveas> what's the output of it?
[12:23] <ktogias> ok
[12:23] <korptix> Ng: ;\
[12:24] <ktogias> Seveas,  uid=1000(ktogias) gid=1000(ktogias) =4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),107(lpadmin),108(scanner),109(admin),1000(ktogias),1001(firefox)
[12:24] <Seveas> korptix, ideally: yes, just change www.archive into us.archive everywhere
[12:24] <ktogias> ... sorry about greek locale...
[12:24] <jimmy567567> What program lets you compleatly re-configure the application listings?
[12:24] <Seveas> hmm, that looks ok. maybe something got busted
[12:24] <korptix> LOL
[12:24] <skeff> CarinArr: and voil! It works. Thank you very much. Now...was there an easier way you said SweetestSavage? :)
[12:24] <Seveas> can you mount them manually with: pmount /dev/sd$something?
[12:25] <korptix> Seceas: if u look again it is already us.archive
[12:25] <SweetestSavage> skeff, yes
[12:25] <SweetestSavage> !nvidia
[12:25] <ubotu> I heard nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:25] <korptix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7067
[12:25] <SweetestSavage> You have to do a bit of extra configuring afterwards, but that works too I believe
[12:25] <ktogias> Seveas, Yes. pmount /dev/sda1 Works
[12:25] <skeff> SweetestSavage: well after I removed the old drivers, using the nvidia install (one command) is quite easy enough in my eyes
[12:26] <ktogias> /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[12:26] <SweetestSavage> skeff, whatever turns your crank ;)
[12:26] <Seveas> ktogias, then either hald or udev is going bananas on your machine, rebooting may indeed help
[12:26] <korptix> Seceas: well?
[12:26] <ktogias> Seveas, There is no fix to avoid rebooting?
[12:27] <jimmy567567> Is there anyway to add programs to the application menu? some of those that i downloaded have not loaded up
[12:27] <korptix> .....
[12:27] <Seveas> /etc/init.d/udev/restart perhaps ktogias
[12:27] <CarinArr> skeff, good, you might want to try rebooting as well
[12:27] <renedox> why can't I update ubuntu?
[12:27] <Seveas> korpios, what you put on paste 7067 is still not correct
[12:27] <renedox> clicking on "install" doesn't do much
[12:28] <CarinArr> skeff, sometimes that causes problems as well, so just to make sure all is well
[12:28] <renedox> comes up with the downloading packages dialog
[12:28] <Seveas> korptix*
[12:28] <korptix> Seceas: so what do i change ?
[12:28] <renedox> and then it dissappears
[12:28] <renedox> :|
[12:28] <Seveas> korptix, hang on
[12:28] <korptix> Seceas: Ok
[12:29] <Seveas> korptix, and if you spell my nick correctly, the highlight actually works...
[12:29] <thegladiator> i have attached a hadrdisk to my computer
[12:29] <CarinArr> sweetestsavage, there's an easier way to fix the problem he had with the drivers?
[12:29] <thegladiator> additional i.e
[12:29] <SweetestSavage> CarinArr, I meant there's an easier way to install them in the first place
[12:29] <thegladiator> how can I see if it is detected ?
[12:29] <CarinArr> oh, well yes
[12:29] <yuzonic> 
[12:29] <CarinArr> that's never particularly helpful once it's already done tho heh
[12:30] <korptix> Seveas : lol sorry
[12:31] <Seveas> korptix, post 7069
[12:31] <korptix> Seveas : what do you mean ?
[12:31] <Seveas>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7069
[12:31] <korptix> Seveas : ahh u want me to open that post?
[12:31] <korptix> kk
[12:31] <Psi-Jack> Okay. Anyone know of any good DVD ripping tools? I'm trying to basically take a DVD, and rip it into XVid for video, and for AC3 with 5.1 channel audio, keep it, but for just 2-channel audio, eventually just transcode to Ogg Vorbis. Any ideas anyone?
[12:32] <korptix> Seveas : ok i pasted that in my new src.list whats next?
[12:33] <korptix> Ng : what was the link to the Sun java installion ?
[12:33] <ktogias> Seveas, /etc/init.d/udev restart did not help... It is a big frustration for linux based OS to make me reboot for such a think :(
[12:33] <mario> why is postgre package so broken? :/
[12:33] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell korptix about java
[12:34] <Psi-Jack> ubotu tell Psi-Jack about java
[12:34] <mario> hellp, why is postgresql package broken ????????
[12:34] <Psi-Jack> Ahh good. :)
[12:35] <Ng> korptix: the Sun Java section of the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[12:35] <korptix> k this is weird.
[12:35] <korptix> one sec.
[12:35] <ktogias> I am going down for reboot :`(
[12:35] <Marlun> if I want to search for a file in terminal, whats the command?
[12:35] <mwe> Marlun: locate or find
[12:35] <korptix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7070
[12:36] <Marlun> thanks
[12:36] <korptix> thats the errors i get when i try installing it
[12:36] <mario> hellp, why is postgresql package broken ????????
[12:36] <Psi-Jack> Anyway. Any suggestions? So far, all I have to work with, is lsdvd, dvdvackup, and the option of using transcode. But, I'm not too sure how transcode works, of if it can do everything I want. heh
[12:36] <Seveas> mario, it's not
[12:36] <Ng> korptix: "sudo apt-get update" first
[12:36] <_jason> Marlun, you can use 'locate'
[12:36] <cvt|kde> i found abuse in synaptic; i'd like more games that are easy to install like it
[12:36] <Seveas> explain your problem and we may be able to help
[12:36] <Psi-Jack> mario: For fscking out loud, learn patience!
[12:36] <mario> !patience
[12:36] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[12:36] <mario> that :)
[12:36] <_jason> Marlun, you can also look at 'whereis' and 'find', read their man pages
[12:36] <mario> Seveas: well, there are numbers (tons) of problems :/
[12:37] <mario> for now one of the problems: createdb: could not connect to database postgres: FATAL:  could not open file "global/pg_database": Permission denied
[12:37] <Seveas> mario, wow, don't swamp us with information......
[12:37] <Marlun> _jason, ok, I searched for "httpd.conf" but I got nothing with find and locate.
[12:37] <korptix> Ng: Thanx it works i think
[12:37] <Seveas> mario, run it as user postgres
[12:37] <mario> seveas: I did
[12:37] <korptix> Ng: i still get that error when i run limewire even tho i installed Java
[12:37] <Seveas> mario, what did you do after installing postgres? Creating/deleting users?
[12:38] <mario> nothing... can't do nothing...
[12:38] <_jason> Marlun, are you sure you used the right syntax for find?, if the file is recent you will need to update the database that locate uses with 'sudo updatedb'
[12:38] <mwe> is there any way to change the menu font of xmms?
[12:38] <Ng> korptix: hmm, I'm not familiar with limewire unfortunately - perhaps someone else is?
[12:38] <Ng> mwe: gtk theme
[12:38] <Ng> mwe: that's gtk1, not 2, for clarity
[12:39] <gnomefreak> korptix, did you run update-alternative --config java   after installing it (not sure if needed on limewire but couldnt hurt
[12:39] <mwe> Ng: ok. I'll try. it looks like it's using a different font though :|
[12:39] <korptix> its ok it works thanx ya'll
[12:39] <korptix> :)
[12:39] <korptix> i think..
[12:39] <korptix> lol
[12:39] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:40] <Mabus06> I've never had a dual boot system before... do I need to install the windows video drivers for instance on windows, and then also have the linux drivers installed on ubuntu?
[12:41] <turbofisk> I can't get xfonts-artwiz to work :S anyone who can help me?
[12:42] <mwe> Ng: it doesn't look like it is using the gtk font I choose :|
[12:42] <BadInput> well now i get the bios id but no support for open gl lol
[12:42] <Ng> mwe: it won't pay any attention to the settings in the Font preferences - that's gtk2 stuff. you need to set it in a .gtkrc in your home directory (there may be a graphical took for gtk1 themes, but I'm not sure)
[12:43] <_jason> turbofisk, I got them to work once.  I had to enable bitmap fonts which I did with (I think) 'dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig'.  There area  few posts on the forums about it.  I removed them because it somehow messed up the fonts that firefox was using.
[12:43] <korptix> Ng: is there winamp for linux ?
[12:43] <BadInput> xmms
[12:43] <turbofisk> _jason: I have run that
[12:43] <BadInput> install it
[12:43] <korptix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7071
[12:44] <deicidus> i have a folder full of subfolders full of music. i was copying it to another location, but cancelled halfway through. what command can i use to remove all of the files from the original location that have finished copying? so there will be one copy of each file total, but spread over two locations.
[12:44] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, anyone here use qemu?
[12:44] <Silent_al>  hi :) my xfce backround doesnt show up . even when i change to a new  one .. how can i restore it?
[12:44] <deicidus> i think it has something to do with diff, but im not sure how to combine it with rm to automate the process...
[12:45] <Adsum> could anyone tell me how i figure out which version of gnome im running?
[12:45] <mwe> Ng: yeah. I changed it with "switch" it edits .gtkrc . It's odd. gnubg which is also using gtk1 is using my font though
[12:45] <Ng> mwe: ah
[12:45] <gnomefreak> Adsum, places>about gnome
[12:45] <_jason> Adsum, system -> about gnome
[12:45] <Ng> mwe: maybe they override the theme then, it's so long since I used xmms that I've forgotten if they have their own menu font settings ;)
[12:45] <deicidus> oh yay! i can! go tot he system-->aww, too late
[12:45] <gnomefreak> opps yea system>about gnome :(
[12:46] <Adsum> _jason: *cough* embaressing... sorry for asking :P
[12:46] <mwe> Ng: annoying. it's ugly :(
[12:46] <_jason> Adsum, no need to be sorry :)
[12:46] <mwe> Ng: but well. the player itself looks great
[12:47] <korptix> i also get this
[12:47] <korptix> korptix@korptix:~$ rm -d Shared
[12:47] <korptix> rm: cannot remove `Shared': Is a directory
[12:47] <korptix> korptix@korptix:~$
[12:47] <BadInput> there is a fonts option in xmms
[12:47] <Seelenzorn> rm -t
[12:47] <thegladiator> i have attached a additional  hard disk to my computer , how do I mount it ?
[12:47] <Seelenzorn> rm -r
[12:47] <BadInput> if its empty
[12:47] <mwe> Ng: do you know any other cool players? I tried the kde ones but I don't like them
[12:47] <BadInput> if not rm -rf
[12:47] <BadInput> :)
[12:48] <deicidus> try rhythmbox
[12:48] <Ng> mwe: I use rhythmbox, but people speak highly of beep-media-player
[12:48] <korptix> ok
[12:48] <thegladiator> mwe, how to mount a slave hdd ?
[12:48] <turbofisk> how can I make sure bitmapped fonts is on in the config after running fontconfig?
[12:48] <thegladiator> it seems it is not taken by default
[12:48] <BadInput> is it ntfs?
[12:48] <mwe> Ng: thanks
[12:48] <deicidus> can anything help with my problem?
[12:48] <thegladiator> BadInput, not sure if it is ntf or fat
[12:48] <thegladiator> hwo can I check it it is taken ?
[12:48] <michal__> witam
[12:48] <BadInput> well two ways to work it out
[12:49] <mwe> thegladiator: df -T
[12:49] <BadInput> try mount -t ntfs /dev/someplace /mnt/where you want it to go
[12:49] <michal__> jest tu jakis polak ??
[12:49] <cvt|kde> any news on super dragandgo for firefox 1.5?
[12:49] <freelove> gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file
[12:49] <freelove> tar: Unexpected EOF in archive
[12:49] <turbofisk> how can I make sure bitmapped fonts is on in the config after running fontconfig?
[12:49] <freelove> help! i cant extract an archive......it says the following
[12:49] <_jason> deicidus, may I ask why you are doing it that way?  If you just want to move files, wouldn't it be easier to do 'mv'?
[12:49] <freelove> gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file
[12:49] <freelove> tar: Unexpected EOF in archive
[12:49] <BadInput> is the file fully downloaded?
[12:49] <thegladiator> when I do a fdisk -l it doesnt show the other hard disk
[12:50] <freelove> BadInput: its an archive i myself created.........
[12:50] <thegladiator> should I see the slave hdd in fdisk -l ?
[12:50] <deicidus> _jason: well... i probably should have done that, but i wanted to keep the original until i was done, but now my plans have changed because im using usb 1.1 and id like to do some things to skip over that slowness
[12:50] <takeda_orang_jaw> halooo
[12:50] <takeda_orang_jaw> any body here
[12:51] <_jason> deicidus, ah I see
[12:51] <thegladiator> when a slave is added , shouldn't  /dev/hd** be mounted by default ?
[12:51] <deicidus> _jason: yeah, it was going to take like 16 *more* hours... but i think i can skip it if i move some other files around temporarily
[12:52] <thegladiator> someone ?
[12:52] <BadInput> depending
[12:52] <_jason> deicidus, you may just be able to cp the whole thing again but tell it not to overwrite files that already exist.  Check the syntax in 'man cp'.  Make sure you test it out on a few files in your home dir or something beforehand.
[12:52] <thegladiator> shudnt slave be auto matically taken by ubuntu ?
[12:53] <turbofisk> can someone with ubuntu do: ls -la /etc/fonts/conf.d/
[12:53] <turbofisk> and privmsg me what you have
[12:53] <turbofisk> because I think that's what is causing my problems
[12:53] <mwe> when I try to play mp3 with rhythbox it complains about missing plugin to handle application/x-id3. What do I need to install? xmms plays mp3 fine
[12:54] <korptix> hey man
[12:54] <gnomefreak> turbofisk, what would you like to know about that command?
[12:54] <korptix> when i play a song i hear no sound but not long ago it was working
[12:54] <turbofisk> gnomefreak: I want to know what files are symlinked
[12:54] <turbofisk> I'd like the output of the command
[12:54] <BadInput> check your pm turbofisk
[12:54] <brenner> korptix: obvious question: have you checked your volumes?
[12:54] <korptix> yes
[12:54] <gnomefreak> total 32
[12:54] <gnomefreak> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-01-11 12:14 .
[12:54] <gnomefreak> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2006-01-11 12:14 ..
[12:54] <gnomefreak> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   33 2006-01-11 12:14 30-debconf-no-bitmaps.conf -> /etc/fonts/conf.d/no-bitmaps.conf
[12:54] <gnomefreak> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  250 2005-11-09 18:18 autohint.conf
[12:55] <gnomefreak> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  306 2005-11-09 18:18 no-bitmaps.conf
[12:55] <gnomefreak> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  257 2005-11-09 18:18 no-sub-pixel.conf
[12:55] <BadInput> now back to the issue why im here, basically i got the ati driver installed its picking up the bios on the chip but i have no opengl support
[12:55] <gnomefreak> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  256 2005-11-09 18:18 sub-pixel.conf
[12:55] <gnomefreak> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  247 2005-11-09 18:18 unhinted.conf
[12:55] <gnomefreak> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  296 2005-11-09 18:18 yes-bitmaps.conf
[12:55] <mwe> gnomefreak: ctrl-c
[12:55] <deicidus> _jason: unless i misunderstood i dont think that will help. i dont want to complete the copy... i basically want to pretend as if what i did was an incomplete move and not an incomplete copy.
[12:55] <gnomefreak> mwe, did i paste that in room>
[12:55] <korptix> brenner?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> :(
[12:55] <_jason> deicidus, oh, you're right
[12:55] <mwe> gnomefreak: yeah
[12:55] <gnomefreak> im sorry :(
[12:55] <brenner> korptix: apps > sound & vid > vol. control
[12:55] <mwe> gnomefreak: shite happens
[12:56] <gnomefreak> i did /msg turbofisk  and hit ctrl+v to paste
[12:56] <korptix> dude i said i checked it
[12:56] <turbofisk> gnomefreak: go to my window and paste it instead
[12:56] <turbofisk> anyone else who can privmsg me, that would be nice
[12:56] <BadInput> gnomefreak, i just click the scroll wheel :)
[12:56] <BadInput> turbofisk, i pm'd ya the stuff
[12:56] <gnomefreak> ok good ty bad
[12:56] <Psi-Jack> !source-o-matic
[12:56] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:56] <korptix> ill reboot and give it a try
[12:57] <mwe> anyone wanna help me getting rhythmbox to play mp3? it works with xmms
[12:57] <_jason> deicidus, you should be able to write a script that strips the part of a path that is specific to the usb drive and then replaces it with the beginning of where the files are on your hard drive.  Then runs rm on that.  There may be an easier way, idk
[12:57] <BadInput> ahh rhythem box has a anti-mp3 thing doesn't it?
[12:57] <Ng> mwe: you need the gstreamer0.8-mad package
[12:57] <brenner> gnomefreak: that would only paste the 1st line (newline characters are cut and pasted too)
[12:58] <mwe> Ng: thanks. I'll get it
[12:58] <Ng> BadInput: there's no "anti-mp3 thing" there are just no mp3 decoders installed by default
[12:58] <gnomefreak> oh
[12:58] <gnomefreak> :(
[12:58] <BadInput> meh i rather use xmms anyways
[12:58] <deicidus> -jason: it seems like there should be an easier way, but ill look at how to make scripts and try that
[12:58] <gnomefreak> i cant believe i did that :(
[12:58] <mouhez> how to make my terminal use ISO-8859-*?
[12:59] <mario> this would mean what?
[12:59] <mario> createuser: could not connect to database template1: FATAL:  could not open file "global/pg_database": Permission denied
[12:59] <mario> createdb: could not connect to database template1: FATAL:  could not open file "global/pg_database": Permission denied
[01:00] <mwe> Ng: now I'm getting "playback error: Could not create audio output element; check your settings" on the console @_@
[01:01] <BadInput> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i7074 <-- any ideas?
[01:01] <Ng> mwe: hmm, check your Multimedia Systems preferences maybe? Try Esound/ESD for audio output
[01:02] <mwe> Ng: I'm using kde :|
[01:03] <Ng> mwe: try gstreamer-properties in a terminal then
[01:03] <mwe> ok
[01:04] <Birichino73> ciao
[01:05] <mario> createuser: could not connect to database template1: FATAL:  could not open file "global/pg_database": Permission denied
[01:05] <mario> can anyone helpp?
[01:05] <mwe> Ng: default sink is alsa
[01:06] <mwe> Ng: do I need oss or custom?
[01:06] <borup> is complete lockups after installing nvidia drivers common?
[01:06] <Ng> mwe: is ESD or ARTs listed?
[01:06] <Ng> mwe: I'm not really sure how KDE does its audio
[01:07] <Hobbsee> Ng: no esd on kde, it's arts, i think
[01:07] <Ng> it really is abotu time alsa was doing all of this, userspace sound multiplexers are retarded ;/
[01:08] <mwe> Ng: no but it freezes on default source test :|
[01:08] <brenner> BadInput: what instructions were you following?
[01:08] <Mr_Smiley> I'm trying to install Ubuntu onto my laptop but when I boot from the CD the language menu appears but the keyboard does not respond. Any ideas why this is occuring?
[01:08] <BadInput> i seen the instructions on some website i would have to find it again
[01:08] <_jason> deicidus, okay, I *think* I found an easy way to do it
[01:09] <deicidus> _jason: thanks btw, and good, cause it was gonna take me an hour to put together the script
[01:09] <brenner> BadInput: and does 'fglrxinfo' show MESA, or ATI?
[01:10] <nino> hallo
[01:10] <BadInput> its shows mesa
[01:11] <brenner> BadInput: sounds like the install botched then
[01:11] <BadInput> well
[01:11] <_jason> deicidus, if you type 'find' in the usb part that corresponds to the directory on your hard drive you'll get a list of all the files and their path starts with '.'.  So we should be able to just rm everything that it spits out.  I'm gonna test it out over here
[01:11] <BadInput> i completely removed the ati drivers from the system
[01:11] <BadInput> reinstalled and still the same isssue
[01:11] <BadInput> but
[01:11] <pinkisntwell> anyone has gotten sound to work on xmame-sdl?
[01:12] <BadInput> there is one option im not sure of removing since it wants to remove a bunch of x windows components
[01:13] <brenner> BadInput: i got a successful install of the ati drivers using this page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=423584
[01:13] <deicidus> _jason, but wont that remove everything?
[01:13] <brenner> BadInput: what card do you have btw?
[01:13] <_jason> deicidus, you would do find /path/to/usb, so it will only output what is in your usb already.  And then we delete those back on your harddrive
[01:14] <nino> hallo
[01:14] <xgarcia> Hi all !
[01:14] <_jason> deicidus, does that make sense?
[01:14] <BadInput> its ati mobility x300
[01:14] <nino> knnt ihr mir sagen wie mal was installiert
[01:15] <BadInput> i had the ati open gl working earlier but i messed around with cedega too much and it would no longer open lol
[01:15] <xgarcia> I install the ubuntu dpper flight 2 and have a little problem, network dosen't start automatically at boot, I need to run the dhclient to start it. How I can resolve this ??
[01:16] <deicidus> _jason, i think so, im looking over it now. actually the copy was from my ipod to a usbdisk, so i would go to usbdisk and type "find /media/ipod/iTunes\ Music", right?
[01:16] <mwe> !de
[01:16] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[01:16] <nino> ubuntu.desuche ich wiekomme ich da hin
[01:17] <_jason> deicidus, actully cd to it first then just do 'find'.  Otherwise it won't start with a '.' and we would have to edit that later on.  That will get you a list.  Now we just need to go back to the place you want to delete stuff and delete what is in that list
[01:17] <pinkisntwell> hmmmm looks like audio devices are not set though: http://pastebin.com/503829
[01:18] <KeithWeisshar> i'm having problems with the burned ubuntu dvd
[01:18] <KeithWeisshar> it's an arita dvd+r 8x brand
[01:18] <Hobbsee> xgarcia: make sure it says auto eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces before iface eth0 inet dhcp
[01:19] <KeithWeisshar> the dvd was burned at 4x
[01:19] <_jason> deicidus, ok it worked and easy :)
[01:19] <_jason> deicidus, I'll pastebin ina  second
[01:20] <deicidus> _jason, ok, cause im a little confused
[01:20] <xgarcia> Hobbsee shit.......... isn't there, thanks a lot.
[01:20] <Hobbsee> xgarcia: no problems - it's a common problem - ubuntuforums.org
[01:21] <Mabus06> um
[01:21] <deicidus> _jason, ok actually i think i understand, but please clarify ^_^
[01:21] <Mabus06> I'm installing ubuntu
[01:21] <Mabus06> and when I go to partition the disk it's looking at the wrong HD. I want to use the other, larger one.
[01:23] <zerokarmaleft> Mabus06, manually edit the partition table and it will show all disks available
[01:23] <_jason> deicidus, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7075
[01:23] <Mabus06> zerokarmaleft, ok brb
[01:23] <xgarcia> Hobbsee, sorry but I make a google search and don't found it ......thanks another time
[01:23] <snk00sj> hi, i am looking for a thirt party app to add custom menu's too gnome toolbar
[01:23] <Hobbsee> xgarcia: no problems - ubuntuforums.org is always one of the first places you should check for that, in the dapper forum
[01:23] <snk00sj>  next to applications / places / system, i would like to have another menu (for example favourites)
[01:24] <xgarcia> Hobbsee: dapper flying there !
[01:24] <binniq> hello all
[01:25] <binniq> please, how can i add the multiverse repository in synaptic ? i need correct address of the repository
[01:26] <Mabus06> zerokarmaleft, it doesn't show another hard drive
[01:26] <kemik> binniq:  add "multiverse" on the same line as universe
[01:26] <deicidus> _jason, ok i think i understand, ill try it
[01:26] <Mabus06> !repos
[01:26] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:26] <_jason> snk00sj, have you tried using a drawer?  Or you want something else?
[01:26] <kemik> binniq:  deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[01:26] <hhurtta> so is dapper already usable?
[01:26] <Hobbsee> hhurtta: depends on the day
[01:26] <binniq> thank you very much
[01:26] <kemik> hhurtta:  sometimes, sometimes not.. for some, not for others
[01:27] <Hobbsee> hhurtta: and depends what you define as usable
[01:27] <hhurtta> Hobbsee: ok. so I thought :)
[01:27] <kemik> hhurtta:  its' unstabale and thus not recommended on critical systems ;)
[01:28] <Mabus06> useful if you like saying 'look at me I'm using dapper"
[01:28] <Mabus06> other than that, stick to breezy
[01:28] <Mabus06> until dapper is released officially
[01:28] <Hobbsee> a lot of new, useful stuff in it though, and it's faster - but it's not for mission-critical systems, and you'll probably want to dual boot breezy and dapper
[01:28] <Ng> the simple rule of thumb is: if you need to ask about dapper, you don't want it until it is release :)
[01:28] <Ng> +d
[01:28] <djief> 'look at me I'm using dapper :)
[01:28] <Hobbsee> hehe true
[01:29] <pinkisntwell> are the repos down?
[01:29] <suporte> I am braslian
[01:29] <gnomefreak> dapper still has dep issues a few maybe more than a few
[01:29] <gnomefreak> pinkisntwell, no
[01:29] <gnomefreak> not mine atleast
[01:29] <pinkisntwell> gnomefreak: mine don't work
[01:29] <Hobbsee> ack!  i've been told to go file a bug!
[01:29] <brenner> any firefox gurus?  is there a way i can change the download feature to individual progress dialogs (like mozilla or IE)  i prefer that method to the listing
[01:29] <gnomefreak> pinkisntwell, change the country code
[01:30] <hhurtta> Hobbsee, Mabus06: well, I've run enough unstable bleeding edge distros to know to keep my fingers away :)
[01:30] <deicidus> _jason, oh a little snag--there's spaces in my filenames, im replacing them with \
[01:30] <pinkisntwell> gnomefreak: on all repos?
[01:30] <snk00sj> _jason, i am using a drawer, but with 20 icons it's becoming very hard to make the difference between 2 icons
[01:30] <snk00sj> so then i need a mouseover for each link, but that takes time
[01:30] <gnomefreak> pinkisntwell, the ones witha  country code yes "are you in us"?
[01:30] <Mabus06> and when I go to partition the disk it's looking at the wrong HD. I want to use the other, larger one. It doesnt show up in the list of choices
[01:31] <Ng> brenner: not in the default firefox. check the extensions - there are some that let you customise downloads, maybe they can do it
[01:31] <brenner> Ng: cheers
[01:31] <pinkisntwell> i'm in greece
[01:31] <gnomefreak> pinkisntwell, try de as a country code or see if taking country code out will help
[01:32] <pinkisntwell> gnomefreak: ok
[01:32] <pinkisntwell> something else, has anyone gotten xmame-sdl to work with sound?
[01:32] <Airan> ola
[01:32] <Airan> ola xd
[01:32] <Airan> ai alguien
[01:33] <Airan> ai alguna golfa?
[01:33] <Airan> ai alguna golfa? con cam xDDDDDD
[01:33] <gnomefreak> 103.4mb zip file :(
[01:33] <_jason> deicidus, !es
[01:33] <_jason> !es
[01:33] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:33] <_jason> deicidus, sry
[01:33] <brenner> was he asking for a golf partner? :-/
[01:34] <gnomefreak> try #golf
[01:34] <gnomefreak> theres a # for everything why not golf :(
[01:35] <Airan> ola
[01:35] <Airan> ola ashkldhahda
[01:35] <Airan> sdhsdafha
[01:35] <Airan> shfhsadfgahdafsgh
[01:35] <Airan> sdfghsdgfafajds
[01:35] <Airan> ola carlos m la kieres xupar?
[01:35] <brenner> Seveas: ping
[01:35] <Airan> como k ping
[01:35] <Rawplayer> Airan: /j #0,0
[01:35] <Airan> como k ping xddddd
[01:35] <Airan> como k ping xddddddddddddddddd
[01:36] <brenner> thankyou
[01:36] <Rawplayer> n1
[01:36] <michal__> SZUKAM POLAKA SZUKAM POLAKA SZUKAM POLAKA SZUKAM POLAKA SZUKAM POLAKA SZUKAM POLAKA SZUKAM POLAKA SZUKAM POLAKA SZUKAM POLAKA SZUKAM POLAKA SZUKAM POLAKA SZUKAM POLAKA SZUKAM POLAKA SZUKAM POLAKA SZUKAM POLAKA SZUKAM POLAKA SZUKAM POLAKA SZUKAM POLAKA SZUKAM POLAKA
[01:36] <Rawplayer> o dear
[01:36] <_jason> I guess they come in 2's
[01:36] <tero> mni.shot
[01:36] <kemik> yarrr.. there be morons abound!
[01:36] <ajmitch> sigh
[01:37] <Der> hallo
[01:37] <Mabus06> I'm installing ubuntu and when I go to partition the disk it's looking at the wrong HD. I want to use the other, larger one. It doesnt show up in the list of choices
[01:38] <Seveas> ugh@fools
[01:38] <ajmitch> Seveas: who me? :)
[01:38] <Sh4d0x> hi all
[01:38] <Seveas> no, the losers that decide to flood the channel :)
[01:38] <cat> i am using breezy ,how to make window transparent and shadow ?any how-tos ?
[01:39] <gnomefreak> cat, what window?
[01:39] <gnomefreak> the terminal?
[01:39] <Sh4d0x> can someone tell me again how to install a package from your desktop, i'm talking about cedega, anyone experience with it?
[01:39] <kemik> cat:  true transparancy in all windows ?
[01:39] <cat> all window
[01:39] <cat> true or untrue
[01:39] <kemik> cat:  that's quite advanced, if in breezy even possible (?)
[01:39] <cat> either is ok
[01:40] <cat> the terminal is so easy
[01:40] <kemik> cat:  the terminal is fake transparency
[01:40] <[nige] > anyone know a good qos prog?
[01:40] <cat> breezy is impossible ?
[01:41] <cat> kemik: fake is also ok to me !
[01:41] <Sh4d0x> no one any suggestions?
[01:41] <cat> any how-tos ?
[01:41] <Mabus06> I'm installing ubuntu and when I go to partition the disk it's looking at the wrong HD. I want to use the other, larger one. It doesnt show up in the list of choices
[01:41] <gnomefreak> very few things are impossible some are just alot more advanced than others
[01:41] <kemik> not afaik
[01:41] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, sata? ide?
[01:41] <Mabus06> ide
[01:41] <gnomefreak> 2 hdds same pc?
[01:41] <Mabus06> yep
[01:42] <Rawplayer> they are recognised in the bios?
[01:42] <Ng> Sh4d0x: download the cedega .debs and do "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb" on them
[01:42] <Mabus06> 20gig one has windows on it, the 160gb is the target I want for ubuntu but it keeps trying to use my 20
[01:42] <cat> in the forum there is way for ubuntu 5.04 ,but not for breezy ,
[01:42] <Mabus06> Rawplayer, sometimes. :/
[01:42] <brenner> doesn't the new enlightenment do crazy stuff with transparency?
[01:42] <Rawplayer> Mabus06: sometimes?
[01:42] <Sh4d0x> ng, i got .tgz
[01:43] <Savage|Sleep> !firefox
[01:43] <ilba7r> Mabus06, did you try the custom partition option?
[01:43] <Mabus06> Rawplayer, yeah, ever since I put this 20gb one my comps been acting screwy.
[01:43] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[01:43] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:43] <Mabus06> ilba7r, yes
[01:43] <brenner> ubotu: tell Sh4d0x about cedega
[01:43] <Ng> Sh4d0x: download the .debs instead, it's far easier
[01:43] <gnomefreak> Savage|Sleep, that what you were looking for?
[01:43] <kemik> brenner:  yeah, but i think it uses cairo
[01:43] <cat> kemik: NO way ?can i make ubuntu glass effect ?
[01:43] <kemik> brenner:  afaik gnome doesnt
[01:44] <kemik> cat:  im not saying it's impossible.. :)
[01:44] <ilba7r> Mabus06, are you sure the two hardisks show in the bios correctly? does window for example see the second harddisk
[01:44] <Sh4d0x> thnx brenner, thnx ng, i'll try and play my starwars empire at war cheerz xxx
[01:44] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, are they set to auto detect in bios and is one master other slave?
[01:44] <Savage|Sleep> gnomefreak, yes thanks =)
[01:44] <cat> kemik: how about yours ?
[01:44] <gnomefreak> yw
[01:44] <Mabus06> gnomefreak, the 160 is set as master but for some reason the partitioner is telling me the 20gb one is the master
[01:45] <Mabus06> and in my bios it only shows one hard drive, a 2.1gb one. Which doesn't exist.
[01:45] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, you might want to check the jumpers on them
[01:45] <Rawplayer> Mabus06: master / slave correctly?
[01:45] <brenner> kemik: oh.  i must've missed him saying gnome-only
[01:45] <Rawplayer> try the hd's seperated on the different ide controllers on your mainboard
[01:45] <Rawplayer> and / or replace the ide cable
[01:45] <deicidus> _jason, it doesnt seem to be working, when i run the xargs it says it cant remove various files and directories. its like.. obsessed with a certain directory and doesnt seem to be trying to remove the others
[01:45] <ilba7r> Mabus06, i agree with gnomefreak not seeing the tow hardisks even in bios mean they need to be correctly set
[01:45] <BadInput> brenner, yay it worked
[01:46] <Mabus06> ok I'll try that, Rawplayer / gnomefreak
[01:46] <_jason> deicidus, can you pastebin?
[01:46] <BadInput> good thing i had a backup config though after the first steps got no screens found
[01:46] <kemik> cat:  i dont see a point in using fake-transparency.. im sitting tight untill gnome uses cairo and ther can be some true transp.action :)
[01:46] <deicidus> _jason, how do you do that?
[01:46] <brenner> BadInput: you used that hotwo?
[01:46] <BadInput> ya
[01:46] <_jason> ubotu, tell deicidus about pastebin
[01:46] <BadInput> after the first step it asked to reboot i got no screens found but i had a config from when i first started messing with this
[01:47] <brenner> BadInput: sweet
[01:47] <katie_> how can I uninstall firefox 1.0.7, iw ant to install firefox 1.5
[01:47] <agente87> does anybody work with partimage?
[01:47] <BadInput> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[01:47] <BadInput> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[01:47] <BadInput> OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY RADEON X300 Generic
[01:47] <BadInput> OpenGL version string: 1.3.5519 (X4.3.0-8.20.8)
[01:47] <BadInput> yay :)
[01:47] <kemik> BadInput:  pastebin
[01:47] <thegladiator_> hi
[01:47] <kemik> BadInput:  dont paste here =)
[01:47] <gnomefreak> katie_, keep 1.0.7 even after installing 1.5 just set 1.5 to use the icons
[01:47] <_jason> katie_, a lot of other programs depend on firefox1.07.  Removing it will stop other things from working
[01:47] <Ng> katie_: see the FirefoxNewVersion wiki page
[01:47] <brenner> BadInput: glxinfo | grep rendering
[01:48] <BadInput> its a yes
[01:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell katie_ about ff1.5
[01:48] <thegladiator_> hello there!
[01:48] <BadInput> now i just need to get cedega working to play WOW
[01:48] <brenner> BadInput: you're all set then :)
[01:48] <katie_> so many things at once, how do i set 1.5 to use the icons? I just extracted 1.5
[01:48] <BadInput> katie_,  i found a walkthru to do it
[01:49] <gnomefreak> katie_, read the wiki ubotu sent you it is explained nicely in there
[01:49] <pinkisntwell> xmame sound anyone?
[01:49] <deicidus> _jason, im in irc on a different computer than the problem computer, so ill troubleshoot a minute more first
[01:50] <_jason> deicidus, okay, it may be the spaces thing.  Either look into how xargs works to see if you cna make it escape them or change all the spaces to _
[01:51] <[nige] > anyone know how to setup xdmcp
[01:51] <[nige] > ?
[01:51] <cat> kemik: http://suzansworld.com/bilder/ubuntu/ubuntu_10.jpg
[01:51] <cat> you see shadows ?
[01:51] <agente87> can anyone help me with partimage?
[01:52] <nouri> i cannot watch h264 with my installation of vlc.  it either has no sound, or freezes the whole system.  any ideas?
[01:52] <[nige] > cat is that with g-desklets?
[01:52] <binniq> how can i set the http proxy and ftp proxy environment variables, please ?
[01:53] <_jason> deicidus, from the man page, I think you need the -0 option with xargs
[01:53] <gouchi> Hi
[01:53] <deicidus> _jason, yeah that's what i'm thinking
[01:53] <takedown_> binniq: export HTTP_PROXY=
[01:53] <gouchi> how to disable dma at grub boot
[01:53] <gouchi> I have tried ide=nodma, ide-disk=nodma but it doesn't work
[01:54] <axisys> gouchi: i usually modify the hdparam.conf (?)
[01:54] <gouchi> yep but in boot parameters ?
[01:54] <axisys> gouchi: dont know
[01:55] <cat> [nige] :i don't know either :P
[01:55] <_jason> deicidus, yeah, change your find command to 'find -print0' and then use xargs like so: xargs -0a /path/to/list rm
[01:55] <s_spiff{AWAY}> guys..why can't i view certain blogs? instead i just end up viewing the code!
[01:55] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  and this doesn't happen on windows IE
[01:55] <cat> ya! transparency ! like this !
[01:55] <cat> http://users.linuxbourg.ch/waver/captures/Ubuntu/ubuntu.png
[01:55] <s_spiff{AWAY}> www.rediffblogs.com
[01:56] <binniq> takedown_, what if the proxy needs authentification with name and password ?
[01:56] <Bizzeh> s_spiff{AWAY}: what browser you using when you just see the code?
[01:56] <takedown_> binniq: HTTP_PROXY=http://user:pass@address.com
[01:56] <s_spiff{AWAY}> in ubuntu I'm using FF1.5
[01:56] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  in XP i use IE
[01:57] <Bizzeh> can i have a link to a blog your tryin to read and only seeing code?
[01:57] <deicidus> _jason, cool, i figured it out at the same time as you :-) im getting it. the command is running, it looks like its working. ill let you know in a second...
[01:57] <Hendikins> s_spiff{AWAY}: Can you throw me a specific URL that comes up as text/plain?
[01:57] <s_spiff{AWAY}> htpp://runway09.rediffblogs.com
[01:57] <[nige] > i know the side bar is Grellem
[01:57] <_jason> deicidus, k
[01:57] <[nige] > or somethignl ike that
[01:57] <Bizzeh> hmmn
[01:58] <s_spiff{AWAY}> Hendikins, check out www.rediffblogs.com
[01:58] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  on the left there are link..vertain blogs..
[01:58] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  click
[01:58] <Bizzeh> all glory to IE's parser that doesnt FORCE you to be standards complient
[01:58] <Hendikins> Bingo.
[01:58] <Bizzeh> s_spiff{AWAY}: its because the page isnt generated properly
[01:58] <gnomefreak> im reading it fine on windows using FF1.6
[01:58] <s_spiff{AWAY}> as in?
[01:58] <Hendikins> View page info on runway09.rediffblogs.com
[01:58] <Bizzeh> open the source in IE
[01:58] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  yeah it opend nicely in FF 1.5 windows
[01:58] <gouchi> any idea ?
[01:58] <s_spiff{AWAY}> not on linux!
[01:58] <Hendikins> Type: text/plain
[01:59] <binniq> takedown_, thank you very much. one more question though: how can i set these variable as permanent - as they should be always defined ?
[01:59] <Bizzeh> the first thing is just a ">" not <html> or a doctype
[01:59] <_jason> s_spiff{AWAY}, look at the top of the page, he doesn't start with <html>....
[01:59] <s_spiff{AWAY}> _jason, i have the template to my blog..and i saw the code..it has <html> ion it
[01:59] <s_spiff{AWAY}> in ^
[02:00] <oblib> Anyone know about acpi power management?
[02:00] <kemik> cat:  i think they're either running dapper, or done some heavy updating themselves
[02:00] <_jason> s_spiff{AWAY}, can you link me to the one that starts with <html>?
[02:00] <deicidus> _jason, yep, it worked! thanks a lot
[02:00] <_jason> deicidus, np
[02:01] <Hendikins> s_spiff{AWAY}: Somebody broke their code, and the browser is barfing. Simple.
[02:01] <rosty> hi, can anyone help me,trying to browse a windows network, smbclient is working and i'm able to browse from command line, but cannot figure out how to mount the existing windows share
[02:02] <ackbahr> G'day, everyone!
[02:02] <holycow> is there a debian package repository front end like debians package search?  debians frontend is down for the moment ...
[02:03] <liable> packages.ubuntu.com
[02:03] <takedown_> binniq: i think u can add this line to .bashrc, but im not sure
[02:03] <holycow> ah!
[02:03] <holycow> thanks
[02:04] <liable> !moo
[02:04] <ubotu> liable: I don't know
[02:04] <liable> ..
[02:04] <binniq> takedown_,  thank you for your time
[02:04] <takedown_> binniq: np
[02:04] <oblib> rosty, mount //servername/sharename /mount/point
[02:05] <Sh4d0x> hi all, back again
[02:05] <lowman62> g'morn tech support room
[02:05] <Sh4d0x> in stead of cedega i installed wine (because of the wiki page etc...) but it won't work :s
[02:05] <Hobbsee> evening...well, guess it is morning
[02:05] <Seveas> Hobbsee, afternoon actually :)
[02:06] <katie_> ooo
[02:06] <katie_> im getting better at ubuntu :D
[02:06] <Sh4d0x> idd seveas afternoon :D
[02:06] <Hobbsee> Seveas: just noticed it's finally saturday lol.  good afternoon Seveas
[02:06] <lowman62> g'aftnoon/evening to those that it applies too :)
[02:06] <gnomefreak> still friday the 13th here :(
[02:07] <binniq> friday 13th, 15:07 :)
[02:07] <Mabus06> gnomefreak, BadInput, my jumper was set incorrectly
[02:07] <Mabus06> I reset it
[02:07] <Mabus06> To the right position.
[02:07] <lowman62> happy fri 13th all...full moon too I do believe ;)
[02:07] <Schnitz> hi all
[02:07] <Mabus06> But now, however, neither my cd rom or the second HD are seen by the bios
[02:07] <Seveas> in 6 minutes it's friday the 13th 13:13 in the UK :)
[02:07] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, i kind of figured that if you bios did see it
[02:07] <BadInput> Mabus06, that would do it
[02:08] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm
[02:08] <Mabus06> well apparently for my 160GB hd there are different settings for master and master w/slave
[02:08] <Sh4d0x> seveas mayB you can help once again :D
[02:08] <Schnitz> i just installed ubunut, seems to work finde
[02:08] <Schnitz> but one problem
[02:08] <Schnitz> xmms is playing but i can't hear sound
[02:08] <Seveas> !xmms
[02:08] <ubotu> xmms is probably to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[02:08] <_jason> s_spiff{AWAY}, read: http://entropymine.com/jason/testbed/mime/ and notice that the page you linked has a mime type of text/plain
[02:08] <Schnitz> i tried using alsamixer, unmuted everything but its not playing
[02:09] <Schnitz> erm its playing but without sound
[02:09] <gnomefreak> Schnitz, is there sound with anything else?
[02:09] <ilba7r> Schnitz you can configure xmms to use alsa
[02:09] <Schnitz> no
[02:09] <Schnitz> i tried alsa too
[02:09] <Schnitz> and esound doesn't help too
[02:09] <Mabus06> gnomefreak, BadInput, the 20gb hd and the cdrom are both connected to the secondary ide connector, and the 160gb connected to the primary
[02:09] <gnomefreak> Schnitz, you have no sound at all?
[02:09] <Schnitz> thats weird....never had this problem before
[02:09] <Schnitz> yeah no sound at all but the modules are loaded
[02:09] <Schnitz> and it worked with debian
[02:09] <BadInput> pl
[02:09] <ilba7r> Schnitz, is the problem only with xmms
[02:09] <BadInput> ok
[02:10] <BadInput> so which one is master the hdd or the cdrom
[02:10] <Pimienta> ola?
[02:10] <Pimienta> jajajajaj
[02:10] <Mabus06> the 160 hd
[02:10] <gnomefreak> ilba7r, he said no he gets no sound from anything
[02:10] <alumno> ieeeeeeeeeee
[02:10] <Schnitz> ilba7r, no sound at all
[02:10] <Mabus06> for what type of files, sh
[02:10] <BadInput> no the hdd 20 gig or the cdrom is set to master?
[02:10] <gnomefreak> Schnitz, what version of ubuntu?
[02:10] <Mabus06> Schnitz, i mean
[02:10] <Mabus06> BadInput, neither?
[02:10] <Bizzeh> what was the big point that made linux 2.6.x?
[02:10] <Schnitz> even `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp` doesn't produce some noise
[02:10] <BadInput> neither? they both set to slave?
[02:11] <Schnitz> gnomefreak, 5.10
[02:11] <Mabus06> BadInput, I believe so.
[02:11] <BadInput> well that won't work
[02:11] <BadInput> one has to be master one has to be slave
[02:11] <Mabus06> oooh ok
[02:11] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, connect the 2 hds with one ide cable use the other ide cable for the cd rom
[02:11] <lowman62> Schnitz: try this System-->Preferences-->Sound and see if enable sound server startup is checked if you are in gnome that is
[02:11] <Mabus06> I'm not computer illiterate but I dont really know what's up with the jumpers... I often have related problems
[02:11] <Mabus06> gnomefreak, I was having problems in that case as well
[02:12] <BadInput> lol
[02:12] <Schnitz> lowman62, sound server is enabled
[02:12] <BadInput> i rather have one hdd on each ide bus since if one hdd is writing it has to wait for the hdd to finish before it can retrieve data from the secondary hdd on the same bus
[02:12] <lowman62> is Sounds for events checked too?
[02:12] <Schnitz> yes
[02:12] <gnomefreak> Mabus06, if you connect the 2 hds with same cable one is master other is slave (make sure setting are correct than with the cdrom if 2 one is master other is slave but try to keep one ide cable for both hds
[02:13] <Schnitz> but there where no sounds at all...but that i would have disabled anyway ;-)
[02:13] <lowman62> if so select the sound events tab and select a sound file from the list and try play
[02:13] <bola> helow
[02:13] <alumno> ieee
[02:13] <alumno> ola
[02:13] <BadInput> sweet its friday the 13th today
[02:13] <gnomefreak> Schnitz, did you try the device database in the menu?
[02:13] <ilba7r> Schnitz, which sound server you are using now
[02:14] <Schnitz> lowman62, already tried that...i can click the play button and there's no error but i hear no sound
[02:14] <alumno> olas
[02:14] <gnomefreak> brb
[02:14] <lowman62> Schnitz: what sound server are you loading?
[02:14] <bola> kie es alumno?
[02:14] <Schnitz> just opened the device database
[02:14] <BadInput> hmm you using esd, oss or alsa?
[02:14] <Schnitz> it says its playing a test sound but i can't hear it
[02:14] <bola> olaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[02:15] <bola> jajajajajj
[02:15] <alumno> can anything speak spanish?
[02:15] <BadInput> you clicked the top one right?
[02:15] <Schnitz> lowman62, phew alsa with oss emulation i guess
[02:15] <Schnitz> but if theres running some sound deamon on top i don't know...just didn't check
[02:15] <BadInput> the top one is sound the bottom one is for recording
[02:15] <Schnitz> but i don't like sound servers anyway
[02:16] <ilba7r> Schnitz, if you set the sound server to alsa try aplay /usr/share/sounds/bell.wav in a terminal
[02:16] <lowman62> Schnitz: try Applications-->System Tools--->System Monitor and see if you see several running xmms in there
[02:16] <Hoxzer> aargh how can I get my system tray icons back?
[02:17] <Schnitz> ps -ef | grep xmms => only one running
[02:17] <BadInput> also if your running alsa and your using xmms do you have the alsa output driver selected?
[02:17] <Schnitz> no because alsa is providing oss emulation
[02:17] <Schnitz> ;-)
[02:17] <BadInput> ew
[02:18] <BadInput> :(
[02:18] <Schnitz> but i tried alsa anyway
[02:18] <ilba7r> Schnitz, for emulation you need aoss xmms you know that right
[02:18] <Schnitz> ilba7r, where can i set the sound server that gnome should use?
[02:18] <Mabus06> gnomefreak, BadInput, the 160GB is set to master on the primary, and on the secondary the 20gb is set to master and the cdrom to slave
[02:18] <brenner> Hoxzer: system tray?
[02:18] <ilba7r> system>pref>multimedia select
[02:18] <BadInput> system --> pref
[02:18] <Sh4d0x> can someone help me out whit wine, i did the wiki part, but still i can not open my gamen :s:'(
[02:18] <BadInput> ya thats it
[02:18] <Mabus06> neither the cdrom or 20gb are seen by the bios
[02:18] <BadInput> thats cause you both got em as slave
[02:19] <BadInput> change one to master
[02:19] <BadInput> oh oops
[02:19] <BadInput> mis read that
[02:19] <brenner> Sh4d0x: why'd you install wine?  shouldn't you be using cedega?
[02:19] <BadInput> make sure that both ide cables are securely into the cdrom/hdd and on the mobo
[02:19] <BadInput> ahh if cedega was free again :)
[02:19] <Hoxzer> Brenner: system tray icons ;/
[02:19] <Schnitz> ilba7r, xmms has several output plugin...i have about 5 debian boxes that are using alsa with oss emulation as sound server and they all play nicely using the oss output plugin
[02:19] <deluxe> i installed ubuntu last night only to realize that it doesnt install gcc why not i dont know but i cant get my wireless card unless i use a version of ndiswrapper thats above 1.4 so i either needed to get the ndiswrapper package or the gcc package i would rather the gcc package where can i download it from
[02:20] <Schnitz> sorry wanted to say sound driver
[02:20] <deluxe> and what directory would i need to place it in
[02:20] <Hoxzer> like azureus goes to tray
[02:20] <_jason> deluxe, install build-essential, it's also on the cd if you don't have inet
[02:20] <ilba7r> Schnitz, i set xmms to use alsa by editing the config file .xmms/config
[02:20] <BadInput> deluxe, click on system administration and then pick synaptic package manager and search for gcc
[02:20] <ilba7r> Schnitz, but if you sound do not work at all that is another problem not xmms specific
[02:21] <Schnitz> ilba7r, yeah i just used xmms for testing
[02:21] <deluxe> i dont have a wired connection so i need to download the package through windows
[02:21] <Cryptid> I am running Ubuntu 5.04 i need help inmounting my second HDD
[02:21] <Sh4d0x> brenner, yes but it is said in the wikipages
[02:21] <deluxe> where can i download it
[02:21] <BadInput> deluxe, it should be on the cd
[02:21] <Schnitz> ilba7r, now i'm trying with an audio cd
[02:21] <brenner> Hoxzer: sounds like you removed the notification applet ... right-click > add to panel
[02:21] <Schnitz> but its the same
[02:21] <ilba7r> Schnitz, for testing try a raw player like play or aplay
[02:21] <Schnitz> its playing but theres no sound output
[02:21] <deicidus> is there anything in linux that will catalog, say, your home directory, and let you make lists of files like itunes, rather than folders? it would be awesome to just dump all my files into one or two places and then make lists based on whatever criteria i want
[02:21] <BadInput> hmm
[02:21] <Schnitz> ilba7r, sounds like that would make sense
[02:21] <deluxe> how would i use apt to install it can i point synaptics to the cdrom drive
[02:21] <BadInput> is this a desktop or a laptop?
[02:22] <deicidus> basically a database-driven filesystem, i think its called
[02:22] <Hoxzer> brenner: can't find it
[02:22] <gnomefreak> deluxe, sudo apt-get install gcc
[02:22] <ilba7r> Schnitz, aplay if you are using alsa. there is also alsaplayer
[02:22] <Xnos> hi does anyone us gIFT... because i can share files...  i specify the correct to my shared folder and then gIFT dont share nothing...
[02:22] <deluxe> i dont have a wired connetion
[02:22] <BadInput> i know with my laptop if i hook up my speakers to my headphone jack i have to turn up the headphone volume to control it
[02:22] <Schnitz> thanks for that aplay hint
[02:22] <deluxe> my wireless card isnt supported natiely
[02:22] <Schnitz> now i'm getting an error msg from aplay
[02:22] <deluxe> *natively
[02:22] <gnomefreak> deluxe, it should ask for the cdrom put in cdrom and it should install
[02:22] <Schnitz> "audio open error: Device or ressource busy"
[02:22] <deluxe> k
[02:22] <deluxe> thanks
[02:22] <brenner> Hoxzer: look harder.  it's at the bottom
[02:23] <ilba7r> Schnitz, ok than something is using /dev/dsp
[02:23] <ilba7r> lsof /dev/dsp
[02:23] <ilba7r> to see what is using it
[02:23] <lowman62> Schnitz: that is what i was trying to say...your device is busy
[02:23] <Schnitz> nothing...
[02:23] <Schnitz> esd is running....
[02:24] <Xnos> hi does anyone use gIFT??... because i can share files...  i specify the correct path to my shared folder and then gIFT dont share nothing...
[02:24] <Schnitz> so i guess esd is blocking my device
[02:24] <Hoxzer> Brenner: what is its name?
[02:24] <ilba7r> Schnitz, with esd you can not have virtual sound mixing
[02:24] <Schnitz> ilba7r, i do not want any sound deamon ;-)
[02:24] <Schnitz> i'll disable it in gnome and then check again
[02:24] <brenner> Hoxzer: notification area
[02:24] <Hoxzer> Brenner: are you sure that is for trays ;/
[02:25] <Hoxzer> maybe it is but azureus doesn't show there
[02:25] <brenner> Hoxzer: i 'm not sure what you mean by tray.  gnome doesn't have any of those
[02:25] <Hoxzer> :O it is
[02:25] <Hoxzer> thx the problem is with azureus then
[02:25] <brenner> it has panels.  and on the panels are applets or menus
[02:25] <Sh4d0x> k, nvm cheers
[02:25] <Schnitz> ok now aplay is playing sounds
[02:25] <ilba7r> great
[02:26] <Schnitz> yeah
[02:26] <Schnitz> its playing
[02:26] <Schnitz> but
[02:26] <lowman62> Hoxzer: are you trying to create a launcher or icon for azureus?
[02:26] <Schnitz> guess what? ;-)
[02:26] <Schnitz> i still can't hear anything
[02:26] <Hoxzer> Lowman62: no
[02:26] <ilba7r> Schnitz, for xmms to use alsa open the config file under .xmms
[02:26] <Hoxzer> it works now
[02:26] <Hoxzer> but now guys
[02:26] <ilba7r> Schnitz, turn your volume up :)
[02:26] <lowman62> cool!
[02:26] <Hoxzer> my sound problem needs to be fixed
[02:27] <Schnitz> ilba7r, i used alsamixer and ev. is unmuted and on top :-(
[02:27] <Hoxzer> so, I'm only able to play sounds from one program at the time
[02:27] <lowman62> does your speakers have volume controls?
[02:27] <Hoxzer> for example I can only play xmms but i'm not able to listen TS
[02:27] <Hoxzer> at the same time
[02:28] <Hoxzer> what can I do? ;/
[02:28] <ilba7r> Schnitz, double click the sound icon and raise both the two sound controls
[02:28] <Hoxzer> esd should be enabled
[02:28] <ilba7r> Schnitz, or in a terminal type alsamixer
[02:28] <ilba7r> !tell Hoxzer about dmix
[02:28] <Schnitz> Schnitz ilba7r, i used alsamixer and ev. is unmuted and on top :-(
[02:29] <Schnitz> i already did that
[02:30] <ilba7r> both the master and the pcm are on top?
[02:31] <Schnitz> ilba7r, yes and headphone is too
[02:31] <Schnitz> with debian it worked out of the box...
[02:31] <ilba7r> Schnitz, would you try restarting the sound server. sorry do not know how
[02:32] <ilba7r> Schnitz, for me i normally restart though i know it is not good idea but something is blocking your sound do not know what.
[02:32] <Schnitz> you can restart the esd sound server if you log off from gnome and then log on again
[02:33] <ubuntu> Ciao ragazzi
[02:33] <Schnitz> but i deactivated the sound server and restarted gnome
[02:33] <ubuntu> c' qualche italiano
[02:33] <Aless> Hello
[02:33] <gnomefreak> !it
[02:33] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:34] <Aless> How can i force apt to reinstall a package?
[02:34] <ubuntu> ok grazie
[02:34] <overrider> !de
[02:34] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[02:34] <no_gatez_fan> i believe this is an english channel
[02:34] <Aless> I think a package of dapper has some conflict with my breezy
[02:34] <gnomefreak> no_gatez_fan, we try to keep it that way :)
[02:35] <overrider> !cn
[02:35] <ubotu> overrider: I give up, what is it?
[02:35] <gnomefreak> Aless, what package?
[02:35] <gnomefreak> Aless, alot of dapper apps are still broken
[02:35] <Aless> i mantein a mixed system
[02:35] <Aless> this morning i installed the following packege from dapper:
[02:36] <Aless> aptitude gnome-themes gdm-themes openoffice.org2 cvs ibsdl1.2-dev texi2html
[02:36] <Aless> ubuntu works
[02:36] <Aless> but the deskbar of gnome doesn't
[02:36] <Schnitz> i just rebooted my laptop
[02:36] <gnomefreak> Aless, are the themes and blah blah blah for the same version of gnome as breezy?
[02:37] <Schnitz> but i still have the same problem
[02:37] <Aless> now i removed the repository of dapper from my source.list
[02:37] <Aless> what do you mean?
[02:37] <Aless> gnomefreak what do you mean?
[02:37] <gnomefreak> Aless, dapper doesnt use the same gnome version as breezy
[02:37] <ilba7r> Schnitz, are you sure your sound card i supported. Did you manually edit the sound conf files/
[02:37] <Hoxzer> ilba7r: I setup alsa and I'm still having problems
[02:37] <Aless> ...you are right
[02:37] <Hoxzer> or I changed it
[02:38] <Aless> i'm stupid
[02:38] <Aless> how can i came back?
[02:38] <cat> umask=0222 or umask=022  ??
[02:38] <Schnitz> ilba7r, i did no manual changes
[02:38] <gnomefreak> Aless, im thinking its not a good idea to be running a mixed system
[02:38] <ilba7r> hoxzer and that is for all sounds or specific program
[02:38] <Schnitz> it's a default intel ac97
[02:38] <Aless> .....now i know that
[02:38] <ilba7r> Schnitz, this is nearly exactly my model
[02:38] <Aless> :)
[02:39] <gnomefreak> get rid of any dapper repos you have and run sudo apt-get update than try to re-install the originals from synaptic
[02:39] <Hoxzer> ilba7r: I don't know I just changed it
[02:39] <Aless> i remove the dapper repo
[02:39] <ilba7r> Schnitz, do you have sound control buttons on your laptop try playing with them might be one is muted or set to low vol
[02:39] <Aless> i removed the dapper repo
[02:39] <fms_> hi all
[02:39] <fms_> is this the right channel to ask questions about sound?
[02:39] <gnomefreak> Aless, did you run sudo apt-get update>?
[02:39] <Aless> yes....i wil try again
[02:39] <gnomefreak> fms_, if sound issue with ubuntu yes
[02:40] <Aless> wait a moment please
[02:40] <gnomefreak> ok Aless
[02:40] <Schnitz> ah ok...
[02:40] <ilba7r> hoxzer try playing a sound than aplay /usr/share/sounds/bell.wav
[02:40] <Hoxzer> niko@ubuntu:~$ aplay /usr/share/sounds/bell.wav
[02:40] <Hoxzer> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[02:40] <Hoxzer> aplay: main:533: audio open error: Device or resource busy
[02:40] <Hoxzer> I'm using xmms at the same time
[02:40] <Schnitz> ilba7r, i have sound control buttons but i think they only work with windows or the appropriate software
[02:40] <ilba7r> gnomefreak, i am not an expert lol
[02:41] <gnomefreak> ilba7r,  lol sureeeee
[02:41] <ilba7r> Schnitz, they worked here with me on linux
[02:41] <Aless> done
[02:41] <gnomefreak> Aless, ok now sudo apt-get install those packages
[02:41] <Aless> but it can not update the packages becouse i think they are still update
[02:41] <gnomefreak> or use synaptic
[02:41] <Aless> ok
[02:41] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, do you have a sound from xmms
[02:41] <cat> whick is correct ?  umask=0222 or umask=022  ??
[02:41] <Hoxzer> ilba7r: ofcourse I have a sound
[02:41] <takedown_> 022
[02:42] <Aless> i can't
[02:42] <cat> ok
[02:42] <Hoxzer> the problem isn't that I don't have sound at all
[02:42] <Fator_Dee> Hello everyone, I have a problem with sudo, I changed the time of my clock and now when I'm trying to sudo it says "sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jan 13 22:44:11 2006"
[02:42] <Aless> it's still the newest version
[02:42] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, ok close xmms
[02:42] <gnomefreak> Aless, what does it say?
[02:42] <fms_> Hoxzer, looks like we have the same problem...
[02:42] <cat> but the starter guide says 0222
[02:42] <Aless> it's still the newest version
[02:42] <Hoxzer> problem is that I can't use multiple programs that play sounds
[02:42] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, than type in a terminal aoss xmms
[02:42] <gnomefreak> Aless, try restarting X
[02:42] <takedown_> but 4 numbers used too, i dont remember what is different
[02:42] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, because your xmms is using oss sound lib
[02:42] <Hoxzer> niko@ubuntu:~$ aoss xmms
[02:42] <Hoxzer> bash: aoss: command not found
[02:42] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: run "sudo -k" to fix it
[02:43] <fms_> Fator_Dee, back to the future....never a good thing on linux boxes...how much time have you gone back?
[02:43] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: it says the same thing
[02:43] <Aless> from a console do you mean?  sudo /etc/init.d/gmd restart?
[02:43] <Fator_Dee> fms_: about seven
[02:43] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, did you select alsa in system>pref>multimedia system?
[02:43] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: what about "sudo -K"?
[02:43] <fms_> seven what? ours? days?
[02:43] <gnomefreak> Aless, if that is the way you do it sure
[02:43] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: still the same
[02:43] <Fator_Dee> fms_: hours
[02:44] <fms_> in 7 hours sudo will work again... ;-))
[02:44] <Aless> i've still tried sudo /etc/init.d/gmd restart
[02:44] <Fator_Dee> I thought about that
[02:44] <Aless> i doesn't worl
[02:44] <Aless> i doesn't work
[02:44] <Aless> but now i'm working with linux
[02:44] <gnomefreak> Aless, try ctrl+alt+backspace :)
[02:44] <Hoxzer> ilba7r yes
[02:44] <fms_> Fator_Dee, you could also try to "touch /etc/sudoers" but you need root priviliges for that
[02:44] <ilba7r> type which aoss
[02:44] <Aless> still tried
[02:44] <Aless> :)
[02:45] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, if it is not there then give me a min to give you the package name you need to install
[02:45] <Fator_Dee> fms_: and I can't get 'em :-p
[02:45] <gnomefreak> Aless, that didnt work neither?
[02:45] <Aless> no
[02:45] <gnomefreak> reboot than :(
[02:45] <Hoxzer> ilba7r: which aoss works
[02:45] <Aless> still tried
[02:45] <Hoxzer> but aoss command doesn't
[02:45] <Aless> i'm sure
[02:45] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, how come?
[02:45] <Aless> there is a way to "come back"
[02:46] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: "sudo -k" will fix the problem
[02:46] <Aless> a friend of mine has done it with nautilus
[02:46] <gnomefreak> Aless, come back from what?
[02:46] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: it will give the message once more, but will fix it
[02:46] <Aless> but i can't remember how
[02:46] <Hoxzer> Ilba7r: "aoss command not found"
[02:46] <Aless> i mean come back to the breezy packages
[02:47] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: maybe it should, but it doesn't
[02:47] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, give me a min to find the package you need
[02:47] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, sudo apt-get install alsa-oss
[02:47] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: can you pastebin a log of it not working?
[02:47] <gnomefreak> Aless, if you get rid of all dapper repos run sudo apt-get update try removing the packages dapper installed than sudo apt-get install ......
[02:48] <gnomefreak> you can use the --reinstall command i think :(
[02:48] <Schnitz> can anyone tell me what "alsactl power" produces on his system with working sound?
[02:48] <Aless> i trie to remove the packages with aptitude but there is one problem
[02:48] <Aless> for example
[02:48] <Schnitz> because i get " power state for card #0 is D0"
[02:48] <DjDarkman> hy ,please tell me how to mount a cd image
[02:48] <DjDarkman> please tell me how to mount a cd image
[02:48] <Aless> gnome-themes depends on ubuntu-desktop
[02:48] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: http://pastebin.com/503917
[02:48] <gnomefreak> Aless, apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[02:49] <Aless> i thought that
[02:49] <Aless> now i've another question
[02:49] <ilba7r> Schnitz, sorry do not have this command installed
[02:49] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: here's an example showing it working: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7081
[02:49] <DjDarkman> please tell me how to mount a cd image
[02:49] <Schnitz> ilba7r, it works only as root
[02:49] <Aless> what is with my file on the /home if i remove ubuntu desktop?
[02:49] <Schnitz> just checked with my working box...there its also D
[02:49] <Schnitz> 0
[02:49] <ilba7r> Schnitz, ok same value you got
[02:50] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: doesn't sudo prompt you for a password?
[02:50] <ilba7r> mistaken the last l for a pipe
[02:50] <gnomefreak> Aless, im not usre what you mean
[02:50] <Aless> if i remove ubuntu-desktop
[02:50] <midwinter> does anyone have experience configuring samba with vmware? i'm getting nowhere..
[02:50] <gnomefreak> Aless, ubuntu-desktop is a meta package it is safe to remove
[02:50] <Aless> i will remove the graphical enviroment,..righrt?
[02:50] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, how is it going?
[02:50] <gnomefreak> no Aless
[02:50] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: nope
[02:50] <Hoxzer> ilba7r: still same problem but In diffrend way
[02:51] <gnomefreak> Aless, you'll be fine :)
[02:51] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: that was a straight paste from the terminal
[02:51] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: does it work?  try "sudo id" instead of "sudo mkdir" - it produces output
[02:51] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, ok could you run aoss xmms
[02:51] <Aless> so you suggest (and i though too this solution)...
[02:51] <Aless> remove dapper repo
[02:51] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: no prompt for pass
[02:51] <DjDarkman> please tell me how to mount a cd image
[02:51] <Aless> apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[02:51] <Aless> reboot
[02:51] <gnomefreak> yes dapper is unstable to run alone let alone mised
[02:52] <Aless> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:52] <gnomefreak> Aless,  no dont install ubuntu-desktop install the other things you wanted
[02:52] <Hoxzer> ilba7r: yes
[02:52] <K_Dallas> DjDarkman, mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/iso
[02:52] <Aless> i'm not sure
[02:52] <gnomefreak> if they depend on ubuntu-desktop it will be installed with them
[02:52] <ilba7r> hoxzer and xmms plays
[02:53] <dooglus> gnomefreak: nothing depends on ubuntu-desktop
[02:53] <gnomefreak> dooglus, themes and crap do :)
[02:53] <Aless> but if i removedubuntu-desktop i remove gaim evolution and so on, isn't it?
[02:53] <DjDarkman> 10x K_Dallas
[02:53] <nbuntu> anyone here got q3 goin on there AMD64 ubuntu, i just need a walkthrough of the install
[02:53] <gnomefreak> Aless, no
[02:53] <K_Dallas> :)
[02:53] <Aless> ok
[02:54] <Hoxzer> ilba7r: yes, but doesn't when ts is on
[02:54] <dooglus> gnomefreak: what packages?
[02:54] <brenner> K_Dallas: is the -t iso9660 necessary?
[02:54] <Aless> i don't know why but i'm afraid of this operatio...but let me try
[02:54] <gnomefreak> the themes for gnome so on and so forth
[02:54] <K_Dallas> brenner, i am not sure but that is the fs of an iso image anyways
[02:54] <gnomefreak> Aless, your not deleting gnome you are deleting a meta package
[02:55] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I mean what are the names of the theme packages you're talking about?
[02:55] <K_Dallas> brenner, but it could be removed i think
[02:55] <Mabus07> I have no video in my ctrl-alt-f7 window
[02:55] <gnomefreak> i dont remember :( he posted them up there somewhere
[02:55] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, do not understand what you mean. you can force xmms to run alsa natively without a rapper if you want just wanted to test it with you first. if you hear sound from xmms than that is good news.
[02:55] <Mabus07> I freshly installed ubuntu and I have an ATI radeon X700 pro
[02:55] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: so do you have any tricks I could try? or do I just have to say "perkele" and wait :-p
[02:55] <Aless> yes...aptitude tell me:
[02:56] <brenner> K_Dallas: yeah just asking b/c ubotu's info is missing the extra option
[02:56] <Aless> Packages to be removed why no longer used:
[02:56] <Aless> gnome-nettoll
[02:56] <Aless> gnome-spell
[02:56] <Hoxzer> ilba7r: I mean I can play sounds if I dont have teamspeak on
[02:56] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, lets see if you have right lib in a terminal type ls /usr/lib/xmms/Output/libALSA.so
[02:56] <Aless> gnome-utils
[02:56] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: try reproducing the pastebin I made and paste the results
[02:56] <Myrtti> *yawn*
[02:56] <Hoxzer> permission denied
[02:56] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: except use "sudo id" instead of "sudo pwd"
[02:57] <Hoxzer> sudo: /usr/lib/xmms/Output/libALSA.so: command not found
[02:57] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, some programs needs oss. Those are the buggy ones that you need to type aoss before running them
[02:57] <nbuntu> anyone here got q3 goin on there AMD64 ubuntu, i just need a walkthrough of the install, anyone???
[02:57] <gnomefreak> and your point being? Aless ?
[02:57] <Aless> wait
[02:57] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu-desktop
[02:57] <ubotu> I heard ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when ugprading.
[02:57] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, i said ls "as in list" so type  "ls /usr/lib/xmms/Output/libALSA.so"
[02:57] <Mabus07> I have no video in my ctrl-alt-f7 window. I freshly installed ubuntu and I use an ATI Radeon X700 Pro.
[02:57] <Aless> i try to select just the packages i want
[02:57] <gnomefreak> read that aless
[02:57] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: hmm, it prompted my pass for the "date" command?
[02:57] <Mabus07> sudo apt-get install fglrx
[02:58] <Mabus07> errr wrong window heh
[02:58] <jariep1_> hi all
[02:58] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, example of those programs is firefox, xmms, realplay
[02:58] <lowman62> lol
[02:58] <JackHanna> what's up guys
[02:58] <Hoxzer> /usr/lib/xmms/Output/libALSA.so
[02:58] <jariep1_> I came in the other day and somebody told me how to reconfigure video in Kubuntu, but can't find my notes
[02:58] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: maybe you have a customised sudoers file?
[02:58] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, great you have the lib
[02:58] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: haven't touched it
[02:59] <JackHanna> strange question... I'm looking for some kids monitor bezles... ya know.. Sponge Bob and stuff screen bezles you stick on the monitor
[02:59] <ilba7r> ok type " gedit .xmms/config "
[02:59] <jariep1_> Kubuntu is in 800 x 600 24 bit and I want to use 16 bit color at 1024 x 768 but it doesn't recognize this setting
[02:59] <JackHanna> google isn't working for me
[02:59] <Hoxzer> done
[03:00] <Mabus07> I have no video in my ctrl-alt-f7 window. I freshly installed ubuntu and I use an ATI Radeon X700 Pro.
[03:00] <foampeace> anyone know how to cut video files into parts?
[03:00] <Aless> gnomefreak
[03:00] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, ok search using the search tools for the following line output_plugin
[03:00] <Aless> i'm downgrading the package
[03:00] <gimmulf> Hi is there any test to run to see if opengl works?
[03:00] <jariep1_> foampeace, what about RAR
[03:00] <jariep1_> RAR archive
[03:00] <lowman62> foampeace: you can use kino video editor
[03:00] <jariep1_> multipart
[03:01] <Hendikins> gimmulf: glxgears?
[03:01] <Hoxzer> output_plugin=/usr/lib/xmms/Output/libOSS.so
[03:01] <Mabus07> can someone please help me? I really can't do anything other than wait in here for an answer without gnome
[03:01] <soundray> Mabus07, did you install restricted modules and the fglrx stuff?
[03:01] <Mabus07> soundray: no
[03:01] <gnomefreak> Aless, ?
[03:01] <soundray> ubotu knows more:
[03:01] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, soundray
[03:01] <foampeace> jariep1_: rar will split a file into smaller ones? like smaller mpg?
[03:01] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, ok change that to look like " output_plugin=/usr/lib/xmms/Output/libALSA.so "
[03:01] <soundray> !tell mabus06 about ati
[03:01] <Aless> yes
[03:01] <soundray> !tell mabus07 about ati
[03:01] <Mabus07> soundray: this is a brand spanking fresh install of ubuntu, yet for some reason apt-get is not working properly, I believe it has something to do with the canadian archives being down as someone mentioned before.
[03:01] <gnomefreak> Aless, you said my name
[03:02] <jariep1_> oh if you want to make short clips then RAR is not good idea
[03:02] <gnomefreak> with nothing after it
[03:02] <Mapionetka> !tell Mapionetka about xubuntu
[03:02] <foampeace> how do you split an mpg file
[03:02] <Hoxzer> LIbalsa
[03:02] <Aless> yer
[03:02] <Hoxzer> done
[03:02] <foampeace> smaller parts
[03:02] <Aless> i downgraded gnome-themes
[03:02] <brenner> jariep1_: 1st of all, are you sure your monitor will support it?
[03:02] <jariep1_> yes
[03:02] <mjr> RAR is non-free, therefore not a good idea in the first place
[03:02] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, take care of the capital and small letters. linux is case senstive
[03:02] <jariep1_> but there are free versions of rar
[03:02] <Mabus07> soundray: yes, I own an ati card, I'm familiar with that page. However with no gnome I can't go to the ATI site, and with no apt-get I can't install fglrx
[03:02] <jariep1_> open source versions of rar
[03:03] <gnomefreak> Aless, if you downgraded all none working packages you got from dapper repos now you can install ubuntu-desktop again if it bothers you not having it
[03:03] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, ok save the file do not close it yet
[03:03] <gnomefreak> !rar
[03:03] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[03:03] <mjr> jariep1_, free versions of unrar, which don't open all rar files
[03:03] <Aless> i try
[03:03] <soundray> Mabus07, if it's just the Canadian archives, replace all occurrences of ca. in /etc/apt/sources.list with us. or uk.
[03:03] <Hoxzer> ilba7r: I copy pasted what you said
[03:03] <jariep1_> right
[03:03] <jariep1_> ok
[03:03] <Mabus07> soundray: okay thanks
[03:03] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, great now run xmms
[03:03] <Hoxzer> :D guess what
[03:04] <jariep1_> but if he wants to make short clips
[03:04] <soundray> Mabus07, you know the drill from thereon?
[03:04] <brenner> jariep1_: you comfortable with shell commands?
[03:04] <jariep1_> sure
[03:04] <_jason> Mabus06, or just remove the ca.archive and make it just archive
[03:04] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, do not run anyother program that use the sound
[03:04] <lowman62> foampeace: try kino
[03:04] <brenner> jariep1_: make a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:04] <Hoxzer> ilba7r: but the problem was....
[03:04] <brenner> jariep1_: then open it up in an editor
[03:04] <jariep1_> ok
[03:04] <Hoxzer> that I can't play sounds with multiple programs at the same time
[03:04] <ilba7r> Hoxzer,  i will takle that problem later one step at a time
[03:04] <Hoxzer> ok
[03:05] <LoPMX_Wantmacboo> does anyone get intel gma 900 acceleration enabled?
[03:05] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, ok did you open xmms and run a sound file with it
[03:05] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: well, it allowed me to change the date once, but the problem appears to stay the same still
[03:05] <gnomefreak> i have never seen a zip file this big before :(
[03:05] <Hoxzer> ilba7r: ofcourse and it works if TS is not running
[03:06] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, ok in a terminal while xmms is running type aplay /usr/share/sounds/bell.wav
[03:06] <gimmulf> Hi, my computer crashes completely when computer tries to use opengl, just by typing glxgears my screen freaks out system freezes and i have to reeboot by the powerbutton. Any ideas on how to solve this?
[03:06] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: what does "sudo id" do?  does it prompt?  does it print anything?
[03:06] <Hoxzer> niko@ubuntu:~$ aplay /usr/share/sounds/bell.wav
[03:06] <Hoxzer> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[03:06] <Hoxzer> aplay: main:533: audio open error: Device or resource busy
[03:06] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jan 13 15:58:13 2006
[03:06] <soundray> gimmulf, what video card?
[03:07] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: and no prompt, it just printed that
[03:07] <ilba7r> hoxzer you can use the pastebin to paste your error afterward. Now are you running breezy or hoary
[03:07] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: you're running breezy?
[03:07] <Hoxzer> Breezy
[03:07] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: yes
[03:07] <_jason> Fator_Dee, what's the current date say?
[03:08] <Hoxzer> in hoary it worked fine but I didn't use same sound card
[03:08] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, did you upgrade from hoary
[03:08] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, or did you make a fresh install
[03:08] <Fator_Dee> _jason: date says Fri Jan 13 02:55:46 EET 2006
[03:08] <Hoxzer> fresh freshi
[03:08] <Hoxzer> :D what I could have updated it
[03:08] <Hoxzer> ?
[03:09] <brenner> jariep1_: in the "Screen" section near the bottom, make sure 1024 is first in the Modes line for the depth 16 section, then change the DefaultDepth to 16, then restart X.  i find editing this file directly easier, but fyi, to reconfigure xorg, the recommended way is with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[03:09] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, this is an update bug. ok i will give you a link to set it manually then give me a min
[03:09] <cello_ras> gnome takes about half an hor to start and i think it might be something to do with the network configuration, can anyone assist?
[03:09] <Hoxzer> I didn't updated it I did fresh install
[03:10] <brenner> jariep1_: if you can't get back into X, just copy your backup file over.
[03:10] <foampeace> must be a way to split vid files...kino is a video editor
[03:10] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: it works for me fine in breezy too: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7083
[03:11] <jariep1_> brenner, ok thanks
[03:11] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, you can follow this howto.http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753. you will not have ubuntu sound enabled though such as log in and log out
[03:11] <wezzer> how to make a symlink to get mplayer play dvd's
[03:11] <Aless> gnomefreak i reboot now.....pray for me
[03:11] <dooglus> basically, if sudo notices that your clock has changed, it should just ignore its timestamp file and prompt you for a password.
[03:11] <wezzer> my dvd-player is /dev/hdc
[03:11] <gnomefreak> ok hb aless
[03:11] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: well, good for you :-/
[03:12] <soundray> wezzer, try 'sudo ln -sf /dev/hdc /dev/dvd'
[03:12] <Set> !sftp
[03:12] <ubotu> Set: I give up, what is it?
[03:12] <gimmulf_> Im having 2 big problems 1'st thing is that i cant restart X, if i type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart my screen just becomes black and i have to reebot by pressing the button which takes me to problem #2. When i reebot first time my internet connection doesnt work. So when i get logged into gdm i have to reeboot another time just to get my connection working
[03:12] <wezzer> soundray: thanks :)
[03:13] <soundray> gimmulf, what's your video card?
[03:13] <gimmulf_> soundray: ATI 800xt pro  using fglrx driver
[03:13] <lowman_away> .
[03:14] <soundray> gimmulf, problem 1 is probably just this:
[03:14] <cello_ras> help, bad network settings means gnome takes half an hour to start up! how do i manually change the network settings for good?
[03:15] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, before following the howto can you make sure that the following packages are installed use synaptic
[03:15] <soundray> gimmulf, restart stops X, and along with it, it stops your restart process. Try restarting gdm from the text console instead.
[03:16] <jariep1_> \how do I shutdown Xorg in ubuntu?
[03:16] <gimmulf_> soundray:  hmmm isnt the text console the terminal?
[03:16] <K_Dallas> Q: how do i stay connected on a dsl ? thanks
[03:16] <soundray> gimmulf, yes, unless you mean the gnome-terminal program.
[03:16] <gimmulf_> soundray:  i use fluxbox and the terminal there, sudo /etc/init.d/restart
[03:16] <ilba7r> Hoxzer, alsa-base alsa-oss alsaplayer-alsa alsaplayer-common alsa-utils gstreamer0.8-alsa
[03:16] <soundray> jariep1_, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:16] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: so I'm out of luck because it seems that my sudo isn't working normally?
[03:17] <gimmulf_> soundray:  if i simply try to exit X by exit on the menu tab, screens also become black
[03:17] <wb> anyone uses ksu? have error "Server not found in kerberos database"...?
[03:17] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: I don't know what's going on.  It's very odd.
[03:17] <soundray> gimmulf, well, that's the behaviour I would expect.
[03:17] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: is it true that you were only prompted for your password once, when you ran "sudo date"?
[03:17] <soundray> gimmulf, do you know you can switch to a text console with Ctrl-Alt-F1 and log in there?
[03:17] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: yes
[03:18] <gimmulf_> soundray:  im in X now
[03:18] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: that suggests to me that the timestamps are working - sudo should only prompt once every 10 (?) minutes
[03:18] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ! X
[03:18] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: but that prompts the question of why it's complaining about time shift
[03:18] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, s_spiff{AWAY}
[03:18] <soundray> gimmulf, try Ctrl-Alt-F1. You can get back to X with Ctrl-Alt-F7
[03:18] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ! X Windows
[03:18] <ubotu> s_spiff{AWAY}: I give up, what is it?
[03:18] <gnomefreak> its either 10 or 15 dooglus if you were asking
[03:18] <Mabus07> I followed the steps on the binarydriverhowto but my x still doesn't work for my ati radoen x700 pro, can anyone help?
[03:19] <gnomefreak> !x
[03:19] <ubotu> gnomefreak: No idea
[03:19] <s_spiff{AWAY}> hey the Volume icone in the top panel keeps dissappearing
[03:19] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  and when i add one, i c two of themm
[03:19] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  then i remove one...both diappear
[03:20] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  disappear..
[03:20] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  any ideas?
[03:20] <Myrtti> for heavens sake
[03:20] <soundray> Mabus07, any helpful messages in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[03:20] <gnomefreak> s_spiff{AWAY}, is that the only issue gnome-panel is having?
[03:20] <s_spiff{AWAY}> yeah..why?
[03:20] <s_spiff{AWAY}> it shud be having more?
[03:20] <_jason> s_spiff{AWAY}, that happened to me once, I restarted X and it went away
[03:21] <gnomefreak> s_spiff{AWAY}, cause if other things were going wrong it could be the panel itself
[03:21] <s_spiff{AWAY}> how do i do it?
[03:21] <s_spiff{AWAY}> no..thats the only issue..
[03:21] <ateves> hi all, do you know an RemoteDesktopClient for ubuntu to connect to a windows pc via remote?
[03:21] <gnomefreak> ctrl+alt+backspace
[03:21] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  how do i resrart X _jason ?
[03:21] <_jason> s_spiff{AWAY}, save anything you are working on
[03:21] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ok..?
[03:21] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  then?
[03:22] <gnomefreak> ^^^
[03:22] <_jason> s_spiff{AWAY}, what gnomefreak
[03:22] <_jason> said
[03:22] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ok ok
[03:22] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  fine
[03:22] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  brb
[03:22] <Set> vnc
[03:22] <Set> ateves, vnc
[03:23] <gimmulf_> soundray:  screen became black and i had to reebot 2 times :)
[03:23] <gimmulf_> never came to the terminal
[03:23] <gimmulf_> soundray:  maybe i just could reinstall x ?
[03:24] <soundray> gimmulf, I think this is a problem with the ATI driver -- I don't have a text console any more, either.
[03:24] <gnomefreak> hes gone :(
[03:24] <gimmulf_> soundray:  hmm ok
[03:25] <soundray> gimmulf_, which problem do you want to fix now?
[03:25] <gnomefreak> oh nm
[03:25] <gimmulf_> soundray:  what about the internet connection
[03:25] <s_spiff> it worked
[03:25] <s_spiff>  thank you .
[03:25] <s_spiff>  by the way..what exaactly is X ?
[03:25] <gnomefreak> X is a graphical display tool
[03:25] <gimmulf_> soundray:  well all of them, not be able to use X and opengl is pretty boring :)
[03:26] <gimmulf_> well that was a little bit wrong since im using x now
[03:26] <soundray> gimmulf_, how do you connect to the internet?
[03:26] <gimmulf_> soundray:  dhcp
[03:26] <soundray> gimmulf_, via a router? Ethernet?
[03:26] <gimmulf_> router
[03:26] <gimmulf_> router -> ethernet
[03:27] <soundray> gimmulf_, and it works only every second boot?
[03:27] <gimmulf_> soundray:  its when i shutdown my machine when the system has freezed it doesnt work
[03:28] <gimmulf_> so its like connection is busy or something that first time i reeboot but after making a ordinary reeboot it works again
[03:28] <soundray> gimmulf_, this could just be your DHCP server on the router being confused about the client (your machine) suddenly vanishing.
[03:28] <gimmulf_> why does it works the second time then
[03:29] <soundray> gimmulf_, instead of rebooting, try 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' when you have this trouble.
[03:29] <gimmulf_> hmmm actually i've tried that :)
[03:29] <gimmulf_> but did not work :<
[03:30] <soundray> gimmulf_, okay, then we need to diagnose rather than speculate.
[03:30] <gimmulf_> soundray:  you think it could be my ati card making it impossible to restart X?
[03:30] <gimmulf_> oki soundray
[03:30] <soundray> gimmulf_, no. Your restart fails because you are killing the restarting process.
[03:31] <nbound> im trying to compile some source code, it says to use the "make" command, terminal says that command doesnt exist =S
[03:31] <LoPMX> hi, i've got a little problem, when i boot ubuntu i get a message (while the system is loading on boot screen): Restoring resolver state... failed
[03:31] <soundray> gimmulf, to prove this, you could run 'gdm restart' through 'at'
[03:31] <_jason> nbound, install build-essential
[03:31] <gnomefreak> nbound, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:31] <nbound> _jason, thx
[03:31] <LoPMX> what does it mean? why does it fail and how do i fix it? or even see what is wrong?
[03:31] <gimmulf_> soundray:  then i will need to reebot 2 times :)
[03:32] <soundray> gimmulf_, why?
[03:32] <gimmulf_> becauce my screen becomes blakc and system freezes
[03:32] <gnomefreak> Lopnx normally caused by no internet connection
[03:32] <soundray> gimmulf_, are you on CET?
[03:32] <gimmulf_> soundray:  before it always worked with ctrl+alt+backspace for example
[03:32] <gnomefreak> ^^^l LoPMX
[03:32] <lowman62> i dunno it may just be me but, a computer that is running fine should never be rebooted or shutdown :P
[03:32] <gimmulf_> soundray:  GMT+1
[03:33] <LoPMX> gnomefreak, ?
[03:33] <soundray> gimmulf_, ah, okay...
[03:33] <gnomefreak> LoPMX, the failure you are getting is normally caused by no net connection
[03:33] <LoPMX> gnomefreak, there is a connection...
[03:33] <soundray> gimmulf_, when you run into the black screen, try a "blind login"
[03:34] <LoPMX> hmm, but the connection is estabilished after the error
[03:34] <gimmulf_> soundray:  hehe hmmm
[03:34] <gnomefreak> is the clock failing too?
[03:34] <gimmulf_> ok soundray  see you in 2 reeboots :)
[03:34] <soundray> gimmulf_, ie., enter your username, then your password, then 'sudo shutdown -r now' and see if it works
[03:34] <gimmulf_> oki
[03:34] <gimmulf_> np
[03:34] <LoPMX> gnomefreak, no, only this one
[03:34] <LoPMX> gnomefreak, what logs should i check?
[03:35] <gnomefreak> not sure never had that issue :(
[03:35] <lowman62> gnomefreak: you install eclipse yet? :P
[03:35] <LoPMX> gnomefreak, it is probably connected with some init.d scripts
[03:35] <gnomefreak> well once in dapper but that was cause i needed to activate my net connection
[03:36] <gnomefreak> lowman62, im downloading it for win right now but im gonna need instructions for dapper :(
[03:36] <mark_> Hi guys, I wonder: i have an `older' centrino with buggy bios, which somehow prevents top 16 megs  (out og 1gig) to be cached, and making the computer veeeery slow, I fixed it by adding mem=1008 - this seem to fix the problem, but then the computer stopped discovering PCMCIA card, sound, batttery and other "gadgets". Right  now the problem is solved by removing one 512 Mb memory card, but I wonder if I could still keep it, without sacrific
[03:36] <mark_> ing other parts of the computer. Any thoughts?
[03:36] <LoPMX> gnomefreak, yeah, i'm using dapper
[03:36] <jariep1_> I'm a bit new to ubuntu, but i have a little experience with knoppix and debian... what is adept, and is apt-get still used as well as synaptic?
[03:37] <lowman62> gnomefreak: just let me know I will be here till 5 pm EST
[03:37] <dooglus> LoPMX: it looks like the initscripts on dapper are a bit messed up at the moment
[03:37] <soundray> mark_, can you do a BIOS update?
[03:37] <gnomefreak> ok lowman62 ty the more explict they are the better cause im gonna write it up for the bug that i filed
[03:37] <nbound> how do i get make to ignore architecture differences?
[03:37] <soundray> mark_, risky on a laptop, I know...
[03:38] <lowman62> gnomefreak: np :)
[03:39] <mark_> soundray: I wish i could -- nope, Asus stopped releasing bioses for m3n two years ago :)
[03:39] <brenner> jariep1_: adept is kde's apt tool iirc. synaptic is gnome's.  apt-get is DE independent
[03:39] <nbound> _jason, gnomefreak, do either of you know how to get make to ignore architecture differences (i want to compile code denoted i586, on my AMD64 system)
[03:39] <brenner> jariep1_: did you get your res fixed?
[03:39] <jariep1_> yes
[03:39] <brenner> cool
[03:39] <gnomefreak> i was reading my text for that class OMG it has like 1965 pages that we have to cover in 7 classes :(
[03:39] <jariep1_> thanks, I also found a nice URL that walked me through : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[03:40] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: a reboot fixed it
[03:40] <Scorch> i could use some help please =/
[03:40] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: right
[03:40] <Fator_Dee> still, a weird thing
[03:41] <dooglus> Fator_Dee: worth reporting as a bug if you can find some way of reproducing it.
[03:41] <gorski> i have a problem with phpmy admin, somebody help?
[03:41] <Sonderblade> why is synaptic so slow on searching?
[03:41] <gorski> i have a problem with phpmyadmin, somebody help?
[03:41] <soundray> mark_, have you tried using different kernels?
[03:41] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell gorski about someone
[03:41] <gnomefreak> Scorch, are you gonna give us a hint on your issue?
[03:42] <Scorch> i'm trying to install some drivers, and when i'm using the make command, i get an error:
[03:42] <Scorch> can't find kernel source in /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build; give the path to kernel source with KSRC=<path> argument to make
[03:42] <gorski> i type localhost in firefox
[03:42] <mark_> soundray: yep, the problem seem to appear only on 2.6.*, and not on 2.4.*, but again i need 2.6 to have my 802.11B to work. :)
[03:42] <Scorch> i'm quite new to linux :$ not used it much so i dont know anything really
[03:42] <gorski> i get phpmyadmin directory
[03:42] <dhcp> hello
[03:42] <nbound> anyone here familiar with the make function
[03:42] <Fator_Dee> dooglus: yep, though I prefer not to reproduce it right away, as I just got my new comp :-p
[03:42] <binary_777> hello
[03:42] <gorski> i click on it, and firefox wants to sav it on disk!
[03:42] <dhcp> excuseme guys, but i got a question
[03:42] <_jason> nbound, I don't, sry
[03:42] <gnomefreak> nbound, did you install build-essential?
[03:43] <soundray> mark_, which of 2.6.* have you tried?
[03:43] <dhcp> theres this dude, that is making a sound then he types. and its really anoying anyone knows how to turn it off?
[03:43] <nbound> gnomefreak, yes i need to compile i586 code on my AMD64, and need to know how to force it to compile
[03:43] <gimmulf> soundray:  didnt work :(, also tried restarting network after first reboot. Before i restarted network ping ftp.xxx.com gave me nothing itwas just waiting but after i had restarted the network it sad unknown host when i tried the same ping again
[03:43] <_jason> dhcp, huh?
[03:43] <dhcp> i cant remember the correct sentence but its /exec -o echo "something
[03:43] <Set> dhcp, punch him in the face and tell him to stop?
[03:43] <gnomefreak> dhcp, hit him with baseball bat?
[03:43] <dhcp> LOL
[03:44] <dhcp> im not into violence xD
[03:44] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:44] <mark_> soundray: interestinly enough, it seems much worse on 2.6.8 where it took debian nearly 45 minutes to boot.  On 2.6.9 and 2.6.10 (which i am running now on Ubuntu) it is much less so -- about 5 minutes to boot (with 1gig of memory) and <1 min with 512Mb.
[03:44] <_jason> dhcp, take away his keyboard
[03:44] <dhcp> its like a *BEEEP*
[03:44] <gnomefreak> nbound, sorry i havent had to compile a kernel yet :)
[03:44] <dhcp> lol _jack
[03:44] <gorski> i have a problem with phpmyadmin, help please?
[03:44] <dhcp> *_jason
[03:44] <Set> dhcp, take his power chord
[03:44] <soundray> mark_, why not try 2.6.12 then?
[03:44] <nbound> gnomefreak, im not even compiling a kernel =P this is just a program
[03:45] <dhcp> set, if i could turn is power off but it wont be kewl.
[03:45] <mark_> soundray: ups sorry, it is 2.6.12.9  (and 10), (debian was still 2.6.8)
[03:45] <Set> dhcp, tell him to stop trying to do things he can't do. then the pc won't beep
[03:45] <dhcp> anyone remember how was the beep?
[03:45] <gorski> i have a problem with phpmyadmin, help please?
[03:46] <dhcp> Set, hes not listening, and i remember that thing can be turned off.
[03:46] <gnomefreak> gorski, if someone knows they will answer you
[03:46] <dhcp> but i dont remember the beep sentence at all.
[03:46] <gimmulf> soundray:  should i reinstall my system maybe, cant i just reinstall X and try that?
[03:46] <Set> dhcp, ./stopbeeping ?
[03:46] <gnomefreak> dhcp, power cord  :)
[03:46] <turbofisk> how can I make sure bitmapped fonts is on in the config after running fontconfig?
[03:46] <dhcp> lol, be serious xD
[03:46] <gnomefreak> i was :(
[03:47] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:47] <soundray> mark_, it may be worth getting the linux-image package from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.15/ and trying that.
[03:47] <soundray> gimmulf, I doubt that reinstalling will solve your problem/
[03:47] <Set> dhcp, open his case and take the system speaker
[03:47] <turbofisk> I can't get xfonts-artwiz to work :S anyone who can help me?
[03:47] <_jason> dhcp, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/110
[03:47] <gimmulf> soundray: maybe i shoud reinstall the whole system then :(
[03:48] <soundray> gimmulf, if you want to reinstall X, that would be done with 'apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg'
[03:48] <gimmulf> ok
[03:48] <turbofisk> how do I compare two files to se the difference?
[03:48] <soundray> gimmulf, do you know about X log files?
[03:48] <_jason> turbofisk, diff
[03:48] <gimmulf> ssou yes
[03:48] <gimmulf> soundray:  yes
[03:48] <soundray> gimmulf, so nothing helpful there?
[03:49] <turbofisk> thanks
[03:49] <mark_> soundray: well, i am a little cautious about installing newer versions of kernel without having to... I was wondering what's the actual problem is  and if it is possible to fix it :) (particularly, why mem option prevents sound card from working - even though lspci detects it fine)
[03:49] <ma> alrighty, lets hope there is someone who can help with a nasty install
[03:49] <gimmulf> soundray:  not a single error
[03:50] <gimmulf> soundray:  can i renstall X while in X
[03:50] <zukero> hi
[03:50] <mark_> soundray: oh, yeah, and i forgot, the thing worked on 2.6.8-386 (but not 686) fine too...
[03:50] <gimmulf> and then just try restarting it
[03:50] <soundray> gimmulf, yes, should be no problem.
[03:50] <gimmulf> oki
[03:51] <ma> Anybody ever had this on install?   input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0   and then freeze?
[03:51] <zukero> is there something else than "xhost +" to do to allow a distant machine to open apps on my computer ?
[03:52] <soundray> mark_, this is weird stuff. You probably need to find someone with kernel expertise to give you a thorough explanation. All I can suggest is shotgun-style experimentation.
[03:52] <Aless> GNOMEFREAK
[03:52] <gnomefreak> Aless, ?
[03:52] <Aless> hi
[03:52] <gnomefreak> hi
[03:52] <Aless> i've reinstalled ubuntu-desktop
[03:52] <soundray> mark_, but if you can't take any risks, I suggest you stick with 512M.
[03:52] <Aless> but i've the same problem
[03:52] <gnomefreak> Aless, ok
[03:52] <Aless> i can use ubunut
[03:53] <Aless> but the deskbar of gnome are grey
[03:53] <gnomefreak> Aless, i have a feeling that mixing the versions as you did messed up alot more than we thought
[03:53] <Aless> without button a sensors
[03:53] <djs_2_6> Hey all.  Anyone here have any experience with managed switches?
[03:53] <mark_> soundray: alright, thanks, I will try to look around. :)
[03:53] <soundray> mark_, perhaps #linux ...
[03:53] <soundray> Aless, please don't use return for formatting.
[03:53] <mark_> soundray: sure :), thanks
[03:53] <gnomefreak> Aless, do you remember what it wanted to remove?
[03:54] <Aless> when?
[03:54] <Aless> i removed ubuntu-desktop
[03:54] <gnomefreak> Aless, when you removed ubuntu-desktop or themes?
[03:54] <Aless> and when i removed it....i revomed all the desktop enviroment
[03:54] <gnomefreak> removing ubuntu-desktop will not mess anything up on a stable system
[03:54] <evil_c> I have fedora core 4 - okay to discuss here?
[03:55] <Aless> xwindows-core-systems
[03:55] <kitty_> can someone tell me what program i need to run windows games...
[03:55] <gnomefreak> evil_c, #fedora
[03:55] <Aless> gnome and so on
[03:55] <Aless> i did tha
[03:55] <djs_2_6> kitty_ - Wine or VMware
[03:55] <Aless> i made it
[03:55] <ma> kitty_, you can always try wine, see if it works with the game
[03:55] <Aless> and i re-installed it
[03:55] <evil_c> yeh fedora
[03:55] <gnomefreak> Aless, i dont concider your system stable though :(
[03:55] <kitty_> do i download it off the internet
[03:55] <Heroin> hallo all :D
[03:55] <gnomefreak> evil_c, type /join #fedora
[03:55] <djs_2_6> kitty_ - VMware is in your repositories
[03:56] <djs_2_6> kitty_ - Oops
[03:56] <Heroin> iam to noob to get Debian to work so now iam going to use Ubuntu
[03:56] <Aless> what do you mean?
[03:56] <djs_2_6> kitty_ - Meant Wine is in repositories
[03:56] <gnomefreak> Aless, you might have to re-install ubuntu to fix it permently that im not sure about though
[03:56] <brenner> wouldn't cedega be a baetter option?
[03:56] <kitty_> how do i get there...
[03:56] <brenner> better even
[03:56] <djs_2_6> kitty_ - VMware went commercial
[03:56] <gnomefreak> Aless, using dapper repos and breezy repos is not a stable system
[03:56] <Aless> this evening i will re-install it
[03:56] <Adsum> can anyone tell me how to update from hoary to breezy??
[03:56] <Heroin> get the new CD? adsum?
[03:56] <brenner> !update2breezy
[03:56] <ubotu> brenner: Wish i knew
[03:56] <Aless> but i don't want to format my /home
[03:57] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[03:57] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:57] <kitty_> how do i get to my repositories
[03:57] <Adsum> thanks
[03:57] <djs_2_6> kitty_ - sudo apt-get install wine
[03:57] <gnomefreak> Aless, unless someone else has any ideas on how to get your system stable again you might have to :(
[03:57] <kitty_> cheers
[03:58] <Aless> it's not a problem if i've to re-install it
[03:58] <Aless> really
[03:58] <djs_2_6> kitty_ - No worries, mate
[03:58] <Aless> but i will re-install only the /root partition
[03:59] <djs_2_6> Hey all, anyone know of any channels for networking?
[03:59] <gnomefreak> Aless, do you have anything in /home from dapper?
[03:59] <gnomefreak> #networking?
[03:59] <dooglus> LoPMX: do you find that dapper reboots without umounting anything, so it has to check the disks every time it boots?
[03:59] <Aless> what can i have in your opinion?
[04:00] <djs_2_6> gnomefreak - lmao... thank you...
[04:00] <gnomefreak> Aless, i dont know but peole have installed things to /home before
[04:00] <Heroin> when during the install does ubuntu ask me about what kind of installation i want.. cuz it just keeps moving crap to the HD
[04:00] <gnomefreak> djs_2_6, if it worked yw
[04:00] <mario> can you help me?
[04:00] <Aless> no
[04:00] <dooglus> where should I report bugs in 'main' now?
[04:00] <mario> I get this when trying to create database
[04:00] <mario> createdb: could not connect to database template1: FATAL:  could not open file "global/pg_database": Permission denied
[04:00] <Aless> my home has other partiotion
[04:00] <gnomefreak> dooglus, i think launchpad
[04:00] <djs_2_6> gnomefreak - you mean you weren't sure that was even a channel?
[04:00] <gnomefreak> djs_2_6, no i wasnt
[04:01] <djs_2_6> gnomefreak - Well, guess what...  It is a channel...
[04:01] <dooglus> gnomefreak: ugh.
[04:01] <gnomefreak> :) cool
[04:01] <gnomefreak> dooglus, thats what i said too
[04:01] <mario> ping? Am I here :/
[04:01] <gnomefreak> mario, no your not here
[04:02] <Aless> i mean on my ho directory/partition there are only my files
[04:02] <gnomefreak> Aless, it should be fine
[04:02] <ma> oh well... I guess I'm by myself then
[04:02] <dooglus> gnomefreak: launchpad needs more work doing to it before it can replace bugzilla imho
[04:02] <mario> gnomefreak: can you help me? :/
[04:03] <Aless> i made a partition for my /home because if my system crash i can keep safe my files
[04:03] <djs_2_6> mario - What's up?
[04:03] <yanis> Hello, I use cplay in ubuntu 5.10 but I cant "go forward" in a song. When I press the right right arrow it plays the song from the start...
[04:03] <Aless> do you understand what i mean?
[04:03] <gnomefreak> lmao i agree dooglus but i havent seen anything on the bugzilla pages to im not sure if you can still use it or not
[04:03] <gnomefreak> Aless, yes i do
[04:03] <Aless> ok
[04:03] <Aless> later i've the cd at home
[04:04] <soundray> Heroin, all Ubuntu packages are carefully selected to create a useable and intuitive desktop environment.
[04:04] <Aless> i install ubuntu
[04:04] <Aless> ...shit....!
[04:04] <Aless> sorry for the word
[04:04] <soundray> Heroin, if you want a minimal install, you have to enter 'server' at the first prompt.
[04:04] <brasko> hi all!
[04:04] <brasko> I'm having trouble setting up my Email in ubuntu.
[04:04] <brasko> Does anyone use mutt here?
[04:04] <binary_777> me too
[04:05] <brasko> I installed the fetchmail package, and that works nicely.
[04:05] <LoPMX> dooglus, no
[04:05] <soundray> brasko, I do.
[04:05] <brasko> However, I can't send Email.
[04:05] <brasko> I was just installing exim, but I realize I have no idea what I'm doing.
[04:05] <brasko> hahah
[04:05] <brasko> soundray: Is exim what you use to send mail?
[04:05] <mario> ping? Am I here :/
[04:06] <soundray> brasko, no, but it is a good choice.
[04:06] <djs_2_6> mario - What's up??
[04:06] <brasko> OK, so do you use fetchmail?
[04:06] <soundray> brasko, no, I use mutt via ssh on a remote host that uses sendmail.
[04:06] <brasko> OK
[04:07] <brasko> is sendmail == fetchmail/exim
[04:07] <brasko> I noticed that ubuntu doesn't even package sendmail
[04:07] <soundray> brasko, no. Sendmail and exim are MTA (mail transport agents). Fetchmail is a pop/imap client.
[04:07] <ninnghizidha> sendmail is in postfix.
[04:08] <Kyral> Exim4 is odd
[04:08] <soundray> ninnghizidha, no.
[04:08] <lucasvo> Kyral: why?
[04:08] <Kyral> It was a pain to get working lol
[04:08] <Ng> exim4 rocks :)
[04:08] <Kyral> well, there is an Exim, then an exim4 package :P
[04:08] <ninnghizidha> there is a sendmail-binary in postfix .. how would it otherwise be possible to send mail with postfix?
[04:08] <Kyral> Now I have to configure Mutt to strip out HTML tags
[04:08] <Ng> almost all mails server packages include a "sendmail" binary to retain compatibility with Sendmail
[04:08] <soundray> ninnghizidha, there is a sendmail binary (most likely just a link), but postfix isn't sendmail.
[04:09] <gimmulf> !ati
[04:09] <ubotu> I heard ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[04:09] <Kyral> anyone know how to swing that
[04:09] <Kyral> make mutt strip HTML
[04:09] <ninnghizidha> i never said, that sendmail is postfix.
[04:09] <Kyral> automatically :P
[04:09] <dooglus> LoPMX: I just reported a bug saying that filesystems aren't umounted when you shut down.  https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/27479 .  is anything I say there not true on your dapper box?
[04:10] <soundray> Kyral, is that for reading incoming HTML mails?
[04:10] <brasko> soundray: O right. My fetchmail get's the mail from my Imap account. Thanks, I forgot. It's been about 4 years since I set this up last.
[04:10] <Kyral> yah
[04:10] <brasko> OK, so that works, which is good.
[04:10] <brasko> Now I need to send mail. So, exim is probably all I need to do that part, correct?
[04:10] <soundray> Kyral, I use lynx -dump to read those.
[04:10] <Kyral> soundray: ah
[04:10] <brasko> Kyral: I definatly am having a problem with exim4
[04:10] <carol> so what r we talking about
[04:10] <brasko> Kyral: exim3 had a simple config file.
[04:10] <Kyral> brasko: welcome to my world lol
[04:10] <zukero> is there something else than "xhost +" to do to allow a distant machine to open apps on my computer ?
[04:11] <Kyral> I eventually greped the Debian MLs for how to get it working with GMail
[04:11] <j2daosh> how do i remove a directory that isn't empty?
[04:11] <Kyral> rm -rf dir
[04:11] <brasko> zukero: yeah, xauth
[04:11] <j2daosh> ok
[04:11] <brasko> zukero: it's secure.
[04:11] <jdier> what is the command for showing my own IP address?
[04:11] <Kyral> ifconfig
[04:11] <jdier> thank you
[04:12] <soundray> Kyral, add 'auto_view text/html' to .muttrc and 'text/html; lynx -force_html -dump %s; copiousoutput' to .mailcap .
[04:12] <Kyral> I mean you'll get a crapload of extra stuff lol
[04:12] <j2daosh> thank you Kyral
[04:12] <zukero> brasko : what do i do with xauth to allow a given machine
[04:12] <j2daosh> bye all
[04:12] <LoPMX> dooglus, but i think that all that umount has to do i stop,
[04:12] <cat>  there are lots of icos such as hda1 hda5 hda6 etc. on my desktop ,how to remove them all ?
[04:13] <gnomefreak> cat, right click move to wastebasket work?
[04:13] <brasko> zukero: It's been a long time, so I can't remember the exact commands.
[04:13] <Sonderblade> my account has been "Disabled for migration to Malone" anyone else got that or just me?
[04:13] <brasko> zukero: Are you familiar with ssh?
[04:13] <Kyral> Sonderblade: on the Bugtracker?
[04:13] <tritium> Sonderblade: which account?
[04:13] <Sonderblade> Kyral: yes
[04:13] <Kyral> Sonderblade: the Main Bugtracker is being migrated to Launchpad
[04:13] <zukero> brasko : my target machine doesn't accept ssh connection
[04:13] <brasko> zukero: and how you have to put your pulic key on the remove side to log in without passwd?
[04:14] <Sonderblade> Kyral: ok so what to do?
[04:14] <Kyral> Sonderblade: So there is one unified Bugtracker for all the sections
[04:14] <brasko> zukero: it's the same concept
[04:14] <Kyral> Sonderblade: it should be reenabled after the transition
[04:14] <cat> gnomefreak: that option is gray! cann't be choose
[04:14] <brasko> I think you do, 'xauth extract keyfile DISPLAY:0'
[04:14] <brasko> and that will create a file.
[04:14] <gnomefreak> i would say use the mv command but i dont know the path for trash :(
[04:14] <zukero> brasko : the problem is that I have to work on a remote machine, and want it to open graphical apps on my local (ubuntu) display
[04:15] <brasko> and then on the machine you want to get the display to, you do 'xauth merge keyfile'
[04:15] <Sonderblade> Kyral: actually it says i should mail jeff waugh
[04:15] <Kyral> cat: You'd have to find the entries in GConf to disable those icons
[04:15] <brasko> O, then just use xauth
[04:15] <brasko> sorry
[04:15] <brasko> xhost
[04:15] <zukero> the remote machine is all ready for it
[04:15] <Kyral> Sonderblade: you can do that too
[04:15] <brasko> xauth is more complicated
[04:15] <zukero> but my comp don't accept connection
[04:15] <brasko> but it stops other users from screwing with your display.
[04:15] <zukero> even after xhost +
[04:15] <varsendagger> hey if i run out of space on my disk for / what are my options?  as in i have other partitions can a mount it somewhere and link it together
[04:15] <Sonderblade> Kyral: yes but wouldn't he get 1 million mail cause all accounts have been disabled?
[04:16] <Kyral> lol
[04:16] <Kyral> Sonderblade: I dunno
[04:16] <brasko> zukero: wierd. are you on a lan?
[04:16] <zukero> yea
[04:16] <Kyral> Sonderblade: I never used the Main tracker
[04:16] <brasko> zukero: or over the internet?
[04:16] <zukero> lan
[04:16] <Kyral> varsendagger: edit fstab to mount things like /usr and /var elsewhere (after copying the data to them)
[04:16] <brasko> zukero: Oh the computer you will run the app from do 'xhost +', then set the display to the computer you want to send the display to.
[04:17] <brasko> zukero: that should do the trick.
[04:17] <zukero> brasko : I did xhost + on my local machine, then setenv DISPLAY my_local_ip:0 on the remote machine
[04:17] <brasko> Kyral: Any advice on setting up the exim4 package?
[04:18] <Kyral> brasko: sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config should do most of it
[04:18] <brasko> Kyral: I'm really confused, and BTW, exim4 did install a sendmail file. Gross!
[04:18] <Kyral> brasko: I dunno
[04:18] <Kyral> brasko: it works is all I care lol
[04:18] <brasko> Kyral: do you think 'mail sent by smarthost; received via SMTP or fetchmail' is good?
[04:19] <Kyral> yah
[04:19] <brasko> I do use fetchamil to recieve mail.
[04:19] <brasko> OK
[04:19] <kitty_> does anyone know how to install dungeon keeper to linux...???
[04:19] <Kyral> I assume you are sending mail via an SMTP server
[04:19] <lowman62_away> .
[04:19] <brasko> I'm using this address smtp.east.cox.net
[04:20] <Kyral> yah
[04:20] <Kyral> need Auth for that?
[04:20] <brasko> I suppose so
[04:20] <brasko> I don't know how I set it up last time though.
[04:20] <Kyral> see thats what I dont like about Exim
[04:20] <brasko> If only my brain remembered tings
[04:20] <Kyral> no easy way to configure Auth
[04:20] <brasko> I was under the impression exim was 'easy sendmail'
[04:21] <Kyral> I wish there was a MTA that configured as easy as Fetchmail
[04:21] <brasko> Kyral: this is the wierd question to me
[04:21] <brasko> IP-addresses to listen on for incoming SMTP connections:
[04:21] <Kyral> uhh...
[04:21] <brasko> hahaha
[04:21] <Kyral> localhost?
[04:21] <brasko> That's what it's default to
[04:21] <Kyral> yah
[04:21] <Kyral> thats what i did
[04:22] <brasko> hahaha, right!
[04:22] <flogiston> Can anyone help me with this problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7089
[04:22] <kitty_> Can someone tell me how to install wine...
[04:22] <lowman62> brasko: just stepped back in ...your trying to setup your email account?
[04:22] <djs_2_6> kitty_ - I already gave you the command...
[04:22] <brasko> Kyral: In a simple setup, did you have to enter any machines for 'Machines to relay mail for:"?
[04:22] <flogiston> kitty_ g to www.winehq.com
[04:22] <Kyral> no
[04:23] <brasko> lowman62: yeah. with exim.
[04:23] <flogiston> And there is a install guide fr wine in ubuntu.
[04:23] <flogiston> You have to add a wine repo.
[04:23] <flogiston> Its all there.
[04:23] <djs_2_6> kitty_ - from a terminal window, type "sudo apt-get install wine" without the quotes...
[04:23] <jariep1_> i have an sh file i want to run as root, how do i run it in ubuntu?
[04:23] <brasko> OK, I think this is what I did wrong last time.
[04:23] <brasko> Do I put my smtp address for this question 'Machine handling outgoing mail for this host (smarthost)'
[04:23] <lowman62> smtp <--addresses is for your outgoing mail transport pop3 or pop are for you incming mail transport
[04:23] <Kyral> jariep1_: sudo sh <path to file>
[04:23] <flogiston> jariep1_ sudo or gksudo before the command.
[04:23] <jariep1_> ok
[04:24] <kitty_> i did it but it says its not configuired... all i want to do is play dungeon keeper : )
[04:24] <brasko> lowman62: I have the fetchamil setup to recieve mail.
[04:24] <brasko> brb, sorry.
[04:24] <djs_2_6> kitty_ - Do you have your universe and multiverse enabled?
[04:24] <lowman62> brasko: your id is probably your full email addy "<prefix>@<suffix>.whatever"
[04:24] <tritium> kitty_: while you can install wine from the ubuntu universe repo, you might want to go ahead and use wine and winetools from winehq.com.  Winetools makes setting up wine a bit easier.
[04:24] <kitty_> yer...
[04:25] <kitty_> cheers.. i'll try that
[04:25] <flogiston> tritium: the wine pakage in ubuntu universe are old i hade problems with it.
[04:25] <lowman62> brasko: alrighty then ;) carry on mc duff
[04:25] <Kyral> anyone use Emacs VM to read mail?
[04:26] <evil_c> no one home in fedora I'm on fedora core 4 - any idea any one on  where my startup logs are being written to certainly not to boot.log, can I cofigure this?
[04:26] <lowman62> emacs eww *snicker*
[04:26] <Kyral> die VIM user! ;P
[04:26] <lowman62> :P
[04:26] <tritium> flogiston: that's why I suggested she check out winehq.com anyway
[04:26] <flogiston> vim <3
[04:26] <Kyral> !editorwar
[04:26] <ubotu> Kyral: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:26] <flogiston> I did to :P
[04:27] <Kyral> I started using Emacs before I used Vi
[04:27] <Kyral> enough said :P
[04:27] <lowman62> :P
[04:27] <Kyral> I use what I know :D
[04:27] <flogiston> Does anyone know what to do? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7089
[04:27] <_jason> Kyral, me too, for 2 days... then I swiftly purged it and upgraded to vim
[04:27] <lowman62> Kyral: I use neither :P but you are right..use what you know ;)
[04:27] <Kyral> plus its Apt-Utils is NICE
[04:28] <Kyral> and I can file bug reports from it
[04:28] <Kyral> actually...ajmitch was right...Emacs is an OS unto itself
[04:28] <majd> do i need anything to play mp3's?
[04:28] <Kyral> majd: Beep Media Player can do it out of the box
[04:28] <_jason> ubotu, tell majd about mp3
[04:28] <Kyral> okay, then another question
[04:28] <Kyral> anyone know of a good mail checker script for Irssi
[04:29] <john_all> hi everyone
[04:29] <Kyral> I just want something to put "Mail" in the StatusBar when I have Mail ;P
[04:29] <lowman62> Kyral: use gnome or kde?
[04:29] <Kyral> Fluxbox :D
[04:30] <lowman62> Kyral: you are a trooper :D
[04:30] <Kyral> Nah
[04:30] <Kyral> I just know what I like
[04:30] <lowman62> Kyral: I see that :D
[04:30] <Kyral> I use GNOME on my laptop because I figure if I'm testing Dapper I should have atleast a standard system ;P
[04:30] <john_all> i recently upgraded a hard drive in a pc running linux and wanted to use the old one as an ext hd.  when i booted the pc with maxtor's maxblast to format the old drive, it is listed as a BIOS drive.  even after formatting it in ntfs, it is still listed as a BIOS drive.  how can i correct this and make it a "normal" drive?
[04:31] <mouhez> how do I install my soundblaster 24bit? :(
[04:32] <cat> Kyral"i can't find the entry of those icos
[04:32] <ompaul> !logs
[04:32] <ubotu> Channel Logs are at: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/, or see here for system logs https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Logs
[04:32] <Kyral> cat gimme a sec to look it up in GConf
[04:33] <Kyral> GConf needs to die...
[04:34] <ompaul> mouhez, do this alsamixer and see if something is muted
[04:34] <lowman62> death to GConf
[04:34] <Ng>  /apps/nautilus/preferences/desktop/volumes_visible ?
[04:34] <Ng> is that the one you're looking for?
[04:34] <Kyral> cat go to /apps/nautilus/desktop and clear the Volumes Visible thing
[04:34] <Ng> gconf is fine
[04:34] <Kyral> or that :P
[04:34] <lowman62> Ng: ;)
[04:34] <Kyral> GConf reminds me of the Windows Registry
[04:34] <Ng> Kyral: except good?
[04:34] <jariep1_> is there a utility for setting up firewall in ubuntu?
[04:34] <ompaul> Kyral, what is the windows registry?
[04:34] <Sonderblade> apt-get fails to remove lots of *-dev packages it says something like "directory was not empty when trying to remove it, skipping"
[04:35] <lowman62> Ng: Windows Registry is a BIG joke!
[04:35] <Heroin> can i update my ubuntu5.04 to ubuntu SERVER 5.10?
[04:35] <cat> Kyral: yes ! very usefull thanks !
[04:35] <cat> :p
[04:35] <Kyral> ompaul: the biggest POS ever
[04:35] <ompaul> jariep1_, you don't need one unless you have an externally facing machine with services running - firestarter is the usual package for that
[04:35] <jariep1_> ok
[04:35] <tkroo> hello, i'm trying to MAKE an app and i'm getting a failure 'invalid lvalue' can anyone help me work this out?
[04:36] <brasko> The wierd thing is, mutt wasn't giving me errors that the mail was not being sent.
[04:36] <jariep1_> ompaul, I wanted to run apache
[04:36] <jariep1_> ok
[04:36] <brasko> I probably sent a dozen emails, that just must have gone to /dev/null before I relized it wasn't working
[04:36] <jariep1_> will look into it\
[04:36] <jariep1_> thanks
[04:36] <ompaul> tkroo, paste your output into paste.ubuntu-nl.org and have a look
[04:36] <tkroo> k
[04:36] <brasko> Kyral: Apparently, I don't need auth. I don't know how it knows who I am, but it does.
[04:36] <s_spiff{AWAY}> brb
[04:36] <Kyral> lol
[04:37] <fr0x> If my Ubuntu gets stuck once in X's time, how can I know what is the thing which is making my system so unstable?
[04:37] <_Dvalin> Hi !
[04:37] <tritium> fr0x: you can check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors to start with
[04:38] <ompaul> fr0x, ctrl+alt+f1 and log in and run top and ps auwx read the xerrors file and compare notes with others
[04:38] <cat> so no need to use gtweekui
[04:38] <Heroin> can i do the SERVER install option with a install cd of version 5.04
[04:39] <Legind> Hi, I am trying to get Evolution to work with a Lotus Notes Server. I am able to use IMAP to connect to the mail, but is there a way to connect to the contacts and calendar? Thank you for the help
[04:39] <ompaul> Heroin, yes, you can, then you can upgrade it to breezy and then be on the latest
[04:39] <tkroo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7090
[04:39] <salavas> fr0x: maybe you have the same problem as me, a radeon 8500 :)
[04:40] <Desintegr> _Dvalin, trop de monde tue le monde :)
[04:40] <_Dvalin> lol
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> hmm. i can  never spell the name of that P2p app right. "azures"  azuearus?
[04:41] <Heroin> pretty gay that i find out that it doesnt ask which install type u want u have to ASK it .. :S reinstall!
[04:41] <Ng> Heroin: feel free to ask for your money back ;)
[04:41] <Heroin> Last reformat today!!1
[04:41] <Heroin> owyah D
[04:41] <salavas> Dr_willis; azureus I think
[04:41] <Ng> or sit there with a lame nickname and call things "gay", whatever ;)
[04:41] <tkroo> azureus?
[04:41] <Heroin> after 1 slack/2debian/1DSL/1Ubuntu format i think iam ready!!1
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> !azureus
[04:42] <ubotu> from memory, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[04:42] <Bizzeh> azureus
[04:43] <tkroo> anyone help me with a make problem? i'm trying to install Rendezvous mDNS. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7090
[04:43] <lukus001> I'm having permission errors trying to transport a file from my root's desktop to my user's desktop
[04:44] <lukus001> Is there anyway to transfer the files?
[04:44] <muszek> hi.  how do I make ssh server listen on non-default port?
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> have root transfer the files
[04:44] <lowman62> lukus001: sudo
[04:44] <fr0xx> I apologize I got disconnected, where I shall check the logs?
[04:44] <fr0xx> Disconnected/Stuck again
[04:44] <Dr_Willis> then you will have to change the permissions and ownership on the files for the user to do anything with them
[04:44] <lowman62> lukus001: sudo cp foo.txt /home/wherever
[04:44] <lukus001> lowman62. how do you move files by the comman line?
[04:44] <butcherbird> muszek: sudo gedit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[04:44] <Frafra> hi all
[04:45] <muszek> butcherbird: thank you
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> !bash
[04:45] <ubotu> For a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[04:45] <Frafra> i need start qemu using eth0 as a normal network interface. how can i do it?
[04:45] <jariep1_> i need to run make install, what packages do i need installed?
[04:45] <brasko> OK, one quick question about installing debian packages.
[04:45] <majd> what torrent program do you recommend for ubuntu?
[04:45] <fr0xx> I have a problem, my Ubuntu gets stuck once in X time, how can I check what's the problem?
[04:46] <brasko> I was told that the binaries are no good.
[04:46] <butcherbird> muszek: after you change port sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[04:46] <_jason> jariep1_, build-essential, but don't use 'make insta;;'.  Instead, use checkinstall which will let you manage what you install througha  package manager like synaptic.
[04:46] <majd> i have bitcomet on windows and it was awsome
[04:46] <tritium> fr0xx: I already gave you a suggestion
[04:46] <tkroo> jariep1_,  sudo aptitude install build-essential
[04:46] <jariep1_> majd, azureus
[04:46] <lowman62> lukus001: then of course you will want to change the ownership of the file copied chown yourusername:yourusername foo.txt
[04:46] <_jason> ubotu, tell jariep1_ about checkinstall
[04:46] <brasko> so, is there an easy way to install from source, and have Synaptic 'compile behind the scenes', so that I don't even really know it's installed from source?
[04:46] <fr0xx> tristan_, I told you, my system got stuck
[04:46] <lowman62> with sudo of course :P
[04:46] <fr0xx> I could not save what you wrote
[04:47] <majd> jariep1_, how come it's not in the package manager
[04:47] <seashell11> fr0xx: Azureus
[04:47] <fr0xx> tritium, I just need you to repeat
[04:47] <fr0xx> seashell11, what's that?
[04:47] <majd> lukus001, you faggot
[04:47] <wilde> goodafternnon. there is someone that knows if is possible to use on ubuntu a some games for windows????
[04:48] <Legind> is there a way to connect to a Notes calendar from Evolution?
[04:48] <Ng> wilde: some games can be played with wine or cedega
[04:48] <Ng> Legind: nope
[04:48] <seashell11> fr0xx that is a torrent program
[04:48] <lukus001> lol majd
[04:48] <Legind> Ng: Thank you
[04:48] <Ng> Legind: some versions of Notes work in wine though, I'm running 5 with Crossover atm
[04:48] <lukus001> two sec ill go on msn
[04:48] <brenner> brasko: you should always check if the app you need is in the repo, if not, installing from src with checkinstall is the way i'd do it...only b/c some binaries have been compiled on other systems and may cause problems
[04:48] <Ng> it sucks ;(
[04:48] <wilde> cedega?is in synaptic???
[04:48] <tritium> fr0xx: you need to check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:48] <fr0xx> thanks
[04:48] <majd> lukus001, how did you'r uninstall go?
[04:48] <Frafra> who can help me?
[04:48] <Ng> wilde: no, cedega is a commercial fork of wine that specialises in supporting certain games, but you have to buy it :/
[04:48] <Legind> Ng: I will give it a try, we are notes 6.5
[04:49] <brasko> brenner: Can I do that through Synaptic?
[04:49] <Legind> thank you for the help, cheers for now
[04:49] <wilde> ah...
[04:49] <jariep1_> majd, it's a java application
[04:49] <brenner> brasko: install from source?  no.  checkinstall will make debs for you and install them though
[04:49] <majd> oh
[04:49] <brasko> brenner: O, I see.
[04:50] <muszek> bye
[04:50] <lukus001> majd, lol rather dodgy actually, cause' i done the expert install it loged my user account out of admin group
[04:50] <brenner> brasko: and they'll show up in synaptic if you wish to remove the thing you installed
[04:50] <brasko> That would be a nice feature to add to Synaptic.
[04:50] <jariep1_> majd, you need sun's java instaled
[04:50] <brasko> thanks for the advice though.
[04:51] <majd> lukus001, oooh damn
[04:51] <Frafra> I must say to qemu to use eth0
[04:52] <majd> my ubuntu installation worked AMAZING from first try
[04:52] <Frafra> how can I set it?
[04:52] <majd> i'm happy
[04:52] <majd> one of the things i miss about windows is how you can scroll by pressing the scroll
[04:52] <majd> cause it makes reading articles easier
[04:52] <ccooke> majd: scroll what? in what?
[04:53] <turbofisk> howdi
[04:53] <lukus001> he mean press the middle mouse button and move the mouse up n down
[04:53] <turbofisk> aterm: can't load font "lime.se"
[04:53] <turbofisk> turbo@slobodan:~$ fc-list | grep lime lime:style=Regular
[04:53] <turbofisk> lime.se:style=Regular
[04:53] <flogiston> majd; you can use scroll button to paste a marked line of text.
[04:53] <turbofisk> someone who can tell me why this is?
[04:53] <ccooke> majd: ah! There's a plugin for firefox that does it, IIRC
[04:53] <turbofisk> if i do it with lime instead of lime.se it works
[04:53] <turbofisk> weird eh?
[04:54] <franckyONE> des franais ?
[04:54] <majd> ccooke: oh that's cool
[04:54] <majd> thanks
[04:54] <turbofisk> how do I upgrade to firefox 1.5 with ubuntu?
[04:54] <brenner> !fr
[04:54] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[04:54] <weedar> Anyone else getting "Replay Counter did not increase"-error with wpa_supplicant?
[04:54] <ccooke> majd: You know how to get extensions for firefox?
[04:55] <flogiston> turbofisk, r du svensk?
[04:55] <trog> #kismet
[04:55] <turbofisk> flogiston: yes
[04:55] <ubuntu> hi all
[04:55] <majd> ccooke: yeah
[04:55] <ccooke> majd: Tools -> Extensions, then click 'Get more extensions'
[04:55] <franckyONE> merci ubotu
[04:55] <majd> firefox extention site
[04:55] <majd> right?
[04:55] <majd> yeah i know
[04:55] <flogiston> turbofisk: #ubuntu.se
[04:55] <ubuntu> first tim eon ubuntu aint got a clue lol
[04:55] <tkroo> anyone help me with a make problem? i'm trying to install Rendezvous mDNS. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7090
[04:55] <trog> anyone have problems with the orinoco 2.6.12 drivers?
[04:56] <majd> ccooke: are you sure it's called IIRC?
[04:56] <tkroo> or anyone know if i can use Howl as an alternative to Rendezvous?
[04:56] <sexcopter8000m> can anyone recommend some webcam software which can act as a http server so my pals can see me? :)
[04:56] <ccooke> majd: ... no, IIRC is "If I recall correctly"
[04:56] <brenner> ubuntu: welcome.  you might want to change your nick
[04:56] <Ng> tkroo: ubuntu includes avahi-daemon in universe which seems to do the same things as mdnsresponder, if that's any good?
[04:56] <majd> ccooke: ooooh i'm sorry
[04:56] <majd> lol
[04:57] <_jason> ubotu, /nick MyNameIsJohn
[04:57] <ubotu> _jason: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:57] <_jason> lol oops
[04:58] <jariep1_> _jason, i followed the instructions from ubotu and it says it can't find checkinstall
[04:59] <butcherbird> sexcopter8000m: vlc? :)
[04:59] <jariep1_> does ubuntu and kubuntu use the same repository?
[04:59] <tkroo> Ng, what i need is daap protocol. i'll check about avahi-daemon thx
[04:59] <seashell11> jariep1_: yes the use the same ones
[04:59] <Badm4n> anyone http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116667 <-- have any idea about this ?
[04:59] <sexcopter8000m> butcherbird, vlc can do stuff like that??
[04:59] <brasko> thanks all. My email is up and working!
[05:00] <butcherbird> sexcopter8000m: yah
[05:00] <yggdrasil_> is anyone here familiar with settup up fluxbox
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> yggdrasil,  let me guess.. you dont have anything in your menus?
[05:01] <yggdrasil_> drwillis
[05:01] <yggdrasil_> well ive got what is usuualy in the bar on the bottm
[05:01] <butcherbird> sexcopter8000m: ive got a batch file i wrote for xp to annoy my coworkers i will paste if youre interested..
[05:01] <yggdrasil_> and ive edited the menu file
[05:01] <yggdrasil_> driving me nuts for a couple of weeks
[05:01] <sexcopter8000m> butcherbird, ok, but i'm not very savvy with IT ;)
[05:02] <yggdrasil_> dr_willis last night i finaly figure how to lauynch a terminal from the console
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> yggdrasil,   :)  i got all the normal ubuhntu items in my menu.  but then again. I also tend to just have a xterm open.
[05:02] <skeff> when I minimize or Alt-Tab between windows, a black window appears with no content... why?  I think this happened after I installed new nvidia drivers from nvidia.com
[05:02] <yggdrasil_> dr_willis how did you do it?
[05:03] <yggdrasil_> dr_willis i totaly have been editing the ./fluxbox/menu file
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> yggdrasil,  it was allready there. :P dident have to do anything. i do Belive theres a package or 2 you install that makes them auto-appear. i think fluxbox is scanning somting - it takes a lot longer to boot up - but everything is there
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> i just cant rember the package names
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> use synaptic and search for 'menu' I think
[05:03] <yggdrasil_> dr_willis i did everthing in synaptics that had flux in it
[05:04] <yggdrasil_> yea did that too
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> unless someone in here rembers.
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> its not a flux specific item.
[05:04] <_jason> !info checkinstall
[05:04] <ubotu> checkinstall: (installation tracker), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.5.3-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 132 kB
[05:04] <_jason> jariep1_, you need to enable the unvierse repositorry
[05:04] <yggdrasil_> theres soemthing misslinked because its putting up the menu that comes up when you click on the desktop name
[05:04] <butcherbird> sexcopter8000m: work.. itll be a few min
[05:05] <yggdrasil_> and ive got no slit either
[05:05] <jariep1_> ok, _jason, just out of curiousity, this is a ubuntu repository?
[05:05] <sexcopter8000m> butcherbird, no rush, thanks :)
[05:05] <_jason> jariep1_, yep, one sec
[05:05] <jariep1_> ok
[05:05] <_jason> ubotu, tell jariep1_ about repos
[05:05] <sexcopter8000m> butcherbird, will it work in ubuntu?
[05:06] <_jason> jariep1_, that wiki page on checkinstall goes into more than you need.  All you need to do is compile as normal and then instead of using 'make install', you just type 'checkinstall'.   It will install it and even create a package for you.
[05:06] <jariep1_> oh wow
[05:07] <jariep1_> never new it was this easy
[05:07] <jariep1_> _jason, thank you
[05:07] <brenner> iirc, you don't even need to configure or make, just run checkinstall?
[05:07] <_jason> jariep1_, np
[05:07] <_jason> brenner, yes you still need to do configure and make, at least in my experience
[05:08] <brenner> ah ok then.  it's been a while since i laste used it
[05:08] <yggdrasil_> dr_willis flux is nice though isnt it?
[05:08] <brenner> last even
[05:08] <Badm4n> anyone http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116667 <-- have any idea about this ?
[05:08] <guest__> Hello, i have a problem with my breezy clean install, won't log out og a gnome session.
[05:09] <guest__> I think it has something to do with the dbus-launch script, not dying when it's supposed to.
[05:09] <majd> is there a way to make the tooltips come up right aligned and not centered?
[05:09] <majd> it angers
[05:09] <majd> me
[05:09] <Kyral> anyone know how to disable the touchpad...
[05:10] <_jason> Kyral, I disable mine in bios
[05:10] <lukus001> kyral, you could stop touching it?
[05:10] <lowman62> _jason: can you give me the wiki page for checkinstall I would like to read about that :)
[05:10] <CarinArr> kyral, you can do it using the alps drivers
[05:10] <_jason> ubotu, tell lowman62 about checkinstall
[05:10] <lowman62> thaks _jason
[05:10] <lowman62> thanks even :P
[05:10] <_jason> lowman62, np
[05:10] <CarinArr> lukus001, nothing more annoying than an oversensitive touchpad when you're sat typing and all of a sudden you're typing somewhere else cause you managed to touch it
[05:10] <Kyral> or pressure on it
[05:10] <CarinArr> yeah
[05:11] <Kyral> yah I just wanna kill Synaptics Touchpad eith now lol
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> yggdrasil,  to be honest - i dont care much for any of the XYZbox window mangers :P
[05:11] <CarinArr> you can disable it in the bios as well
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> yggdrasil,  they work good. but nothing really outstanding about them :P good for vnc work
[05:11] <CarinArr> or at least i can on my machine.. but i have a nipple thing as well and i didn't want to disable that
[05:11] <seashell11> is there any way to turn down the sensitivity of the touchpad? So that it doesn't move the mouse so fast?
[05:11] <lukus001> CarinArr, i wasn't being serious =P
[05:12] <CarinArr> seashell11, again, the alps drivers allows you to do that
[05:12] <jvNET> hi guys, how do you fix segmentation fault in synaptic?
[05:12] <yggdrasil_> dr_willis what dyou mean xyz boxmanagers ?
[05:12] <yggdrasil_> just the windows mgr type interface ?
[05:12] <zukero> yggdrasil : there is fluxbox, blackbox ...
[05:12] <yggdrasil_> do i need to isntall a xinerama backage
[05:12] <yggdrasil_> oh yea zuke
[05:12] <zukero> yggdrasil : use enlightenment :)
[05:13] <jvNET> im getting segmentation fault when running Synaptic
[05:13] <gimmulf> is it possible reinstalling gdm?
[05:13] <yggdrasil_> zukero i ususaly do . but this box is a special case. itsan old mac clone.
[05:13] <seashell11> CarinArr: would that be the same under kubuntu?
[05:13] <zukero> gimmulf : yeah
[05:13] <yggdrasil_> do i need to install xinerama asa package ?
[05:13] <gimmulf> zukero:  how? :)
[05:13] <zukero> gimmulf : choose reinstall in synaptic
[05:13] <ubuntu> 1st time Linux for me, trying the Livecd ubuntu, this thing looks awsome......the instalation of ubuntu is this simple?, as trying thr Livecd?
[05:13] <CarinArr> seashell11, yeah i believe so.. hang on.. the synaptics driver is what i meant
[05:13] <CarinArr> not alps
[05:14] <CarinArr> http://web.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/
[05:14] <lukus001> does the w32codec not support all mov file types?
[05:14] <zukero> gimmulf : or else you can use ctrl+alt+f1 to get a new console session
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> yggdrasil,  thers several related   forks of the Fluxbox/Openbox/blackbox windoiw managers
[05:14] <jvNET> hi guys, how do you fix segmentation fault in synaptic?
[05:14] <brenner> ubuntu: if you can run the livecd, then yeah probably.  if not, come back in here and ask for help
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> yggdrasil,  the only one thats Not related with "box' in the name is matchbox. :P
[05:14] <zukero> gimmulf : and then use apt-get to reinstall gdm
[05:14] <gimmulf> oki zukero  thanks
[05:15] <yggdrasil_> well have your ugys ever run dls ?
[05:15] <zukero> yw
[05:15] <yggdrasil_> uh dsl sorry
[05:15] <zukero> yeah
[05:15] <gimmulf> zukero:  will my configuration be saved
[05:15] <zukero> Damn Small Linux you mean
[05:15] <yggdrasil_> yea its fuking righteous
[05:15] <zukero> gimmulf : i don't think so
[05:15] <ubuntu> ok..
[05:15] <yggdrasil_> for old computers and like as a knoppix sort of think
[05:15] <zukero> yggdrasil : i tried it embedded in winxp
[05:15] <zukero> worked nice
[05:15] <yggdrasil_> oh i havnt tried taht yet
[05:15] <gimmulf> zukero:  you know which file that handles which wm's it gonss offer in the sessions to start?
[05:16] <yggdrasil_> but they have their flux set up nicely
[05:16] <majd> grrr...i need some help installing azureus....it's in .tar.bz2 and i have no idea how to work with them
[05:16] <majd> !tar
[05:16] <zukero> gimmulf : use locate gnome.desktop
[05:16] <gimmulf> oki
[05:16] <zukero> gdm uses all the .desktop files in that location to store all wms
[05:16] <MrSunshine> how was it i enabled the huge package database?
[05:16] <majd> !fileroller
[05:16] <ubotu> majd: Are you on ritalin?
[05:16] <jariep1_> I remember that in synaptic and apt after adding a new repository, I need to refresh the list... how do i do this in ubuntu?
[05:16] <majd> what?
[05:16] <yggdrasil_> well im gonna experminent on this box so ican see if i can get that other one up and running
[05:16] <yggdrasil_> bbl
[05:17] <majd> how do i get to fileroller?
[05:17] <jvNET> guys, I need help here... I can't run Synaptic, im getting Segmentation Fault
[05:17] <brenner> majd: apps > access. > archive mgr
[05:17] <jariep1_> in kubuntu
[05:17] <zukero> jariep1_ : see #kubuntu maybe
[05:17] <jariep1_> ok
[05:17] <majd> what's a good place to extract tars to?
[05:18] <zukero> majd : the one you like
[05:18] <zukero> majd i use ~/tarballs/
[05:18] <majd> ok
[05:18] <gimmulf> zukero:  hmmm font think thats the one, you know for example if i install fluxbox and want it to be in the sessions at the login screen
[05:18] <jvNET> can somebody help me please. Y_Y
[05:18] <gimmulf> then i need to edit a gdm file to get it there
[05:18] <gimmulf> !fluxbox
[05:18] <ubotu> fluxbox is, like, totally, a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[05:19] <CarinArr> mmm fluxbox
[05:19] <CarinArr> ;)
[05:19] <brenner> jvNET: did you do anything recently that may have caused the problem?
[05:19] <knoppix> wow i think im going to switch to ubuntu because it won the best distribution award for 2005
[05:19] <jvNET> just apt-get install libstdc++5....
[05:20] <jvNET> i have a fresh install of ubuntu
[05:20] <majd> holy macaroni...i extracted and opened azureus on my own
[05:20] <majd> i'm god
[05:20] <zukero> gimmulf : that's it
[05:20] <zukero> if you have fluxbox.desktop, then it will be in your sessions menu on gdm
[05:20] <MrSunshine> strange .. everything is like walking throught mud .. everything stops for a sec sometimes then runs fine .. graphics are slow etc :/
[05:20] <brenner> jvNET: and you get a seg fault when you run synaptic from terminal?
[05:20] <jvNET> yes brenner
[05:21] <brenner> jvNET: can you still use apt-get?
[05:21] <jvNET> only apt-get update
[05:21] <jvNET> cannot use apt-get install
[05:21] <brenner> what happens?
[05:21] <jvNET> Segmentation faulty tree...
[05:22] <brenner> exact wording?
[05:22] <jvNET> yes
[05:22] <zukero> gimmulf : if you need a new wm to appear in the gdm sessions, do "sudo cp /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop /usr/share/xsession/newwm.desktop"
[05:22] <_jason> jvNET,  apt-get update runs with no warnings/errors?
[05:22] <jvNET> Reading package lists... Done
[05:22] <jvNET> Segmentation faulty tree...
[05:22] <lanjelot> can somebody tell me what is the default playlist font (preferences->fonts) in da xmms player please :)
[05:22] <bufferfly> hi all
[05:22] <zukero> then "sudo gedit /usr/share/xsessions/newwm.desktop"
[05:23] <jvNET> apt-get update is allright
[05:23] <gimmulf> thanks zukero
[05:23] <bufferfly> ubuntu novice, whats the terminal command to view my ip?
[05:23] <zukero> and change names and binary path
[05:23] <knoppix> can i install ubuntu live to hard drive
[05:23] <Seveas> bufferfly, ifconfig
[05:23] <Seveas> knoppix, no
[05:23] <_jason> lanjelot, -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-*-*-10-* here
[05:23] <zukero> knoppix : no
[05:23] <Seveas> not yet that is, as of dapper that will be possible
[05:23] <bufferfly> cheers seveas
[05:24] <ubuntu> hn
[05:24] <jvNET> i really don't know what happend here
[05:24] <bufferfly> thanks just a quick one
[05:24] <knoppix> once i download the iso file
[05:24] <gera> hai all
[05:24] <brenner> jvNET: dunno to be honest.  hit ubuntuforums.org
[05:24] <lanjelot> thx  _jason
[05:24] <knoppix> once i download the iso file for ubuntu could someone walk me through set up
[05:25] <jvNET> I installed firefox1.5 but i still need libstdc++5
[05:25] <jvNET> but i cant apt-get install
[05:25] <tkroo> knoppix, the installer is straight forward. it will walk you through pretty much everything.
[05:25] <Paradosso> flash newbie question: how do I count files in a folder in an ubuntu shell?
[05:25] <Badm4n> anyone http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116667 <-- have any idea about this ? ( urgent )
[05:25] <knoppix> tkroo if its that easy then ill just roll with it
[05:26] <tkroo> :)
[05:26] <tkroo> i found it to be
[05:26] <knoppix> i was using knoppix and formatted wanting to ugrade to 4.0 knoppix but it is messing up
[05:26] <majd> knoppix: i'm an absolute noob, and it was a breeze installing ubuntu
[05:26] <knoppix> so i want to try something new that is debian based
[05:26] <knoppix> cool i have used linux off and on for 10 years so i should be set
[05:26] <javad> hi how can i install kde on my ubuntu?
[05:27] <knoppix> wow
[05:27] <jvNET> i think i'll just make another reboot and see what'll happen
[05:27] <jvNET> brb
[05:27] <_jason> javad, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:27] <knoppix> this is amazingly good i read where ubuntu got the best distribution award for 2005
[05:27] <tkroo> what's the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[05:27] <butcherbird> javad: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:27] <majd> knoppix: i wouldn't be surprised
[05:28] <knoppix> it is debian based which is big with me
[05:28] <majd> its miles and miles ahead of mandrake (my old distro)
[05:28] <brenner> knoppix: preaching to the converted :)
[05:28] <majd> mandrake was so back i quit using it
[05:28] <knoppix> i have tried so many linux i liked 3.8 version of knoppix
[05:28] <javad> thank you !
[05:28] <ompaul> knoppix, have a look at breezy 5.10, be aware that things like a compiler are not there initally but one apt-get later they are, the idea being your granny does not usually want full compiling abilities, the same about an MTA the default one that installs is Postfix if you need one - most desktops etc btw the whole gig is done through sudo
[05:28] <tkroo> !aptitude
[05:28] <knoppix> but 4.0 for some reason is messed up
[05:28] <ubotu> somebody said aptitude was like apt-get or synaptic, but uses a full-screen text interface, or the replacement/user front end for apt-get as of Debian Sarge
[05:28] <brenner> majd: so back?
[05:28] <_jason> jvNET,  read http://hamsterrepublic.com/james/linux/index.php, someone had a similar problem and was able to clear it up.  'April 7 2004' post
[05:29] <majd> benner: yeah i'm using ubuntu now it's awsome
[05:29] <knoppix> will i have to build my kernels from scratch like most of the core linux
[05:29] <ech> hello, can anyone msg me and say how i can install kde on ubuntu? i want to have kubuntu... anyone?
[05:29] <knoppix> or does it auto setup hardware on install
[05:29] <knoppix> im lazy go figure i dont mind compiling kernels just time consuming
[05:29] <ompaul> knoppix, I am about to get the bot to give the web page about sudo have a look at it before you install - expecially as you have used systems with su before, it just works so well :)  it is part of the ubuntu thinking everything should be easy
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> most? I aint had to mess with the kernel on the mainstream disrtos in ages...
[05:30] <ompaul> !ubotu root
[05:30] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:30] <butcherbird> ech: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:30] <ech> okay, and that's it?
[05:30] <knoppix> im downloading 5.10 this is exiting
[05:30] <butcherbird> ech: then at login screen click sessions button and change to kde from gnome and login
[05:31] <ech> oh, okay.. i will try that
[05:31] <ompaul> knoppix, it's hardware detection is good - read that url first - lappys need a little care what kind of hardware are you installing it noi?
[05:31] <ech> thanks
[05:31] <knoppix> see i like this so far im an irc junkie and this channel is 100% live not a dead  channel its about as busy as the gentoo channel
[05:31] <ompaul> knoppix, s/noi/on?
[05:31] <knoppix> im on a laptop
[05:32] <knoppix> its my main machine
[05:32] <Blippe> ech, you will be asked if you want to change from gdm to kdm at the install, just say yes, and reboot
[05:32] <ompaul> knoppix, well be prepared to hard wire it until you get the wifi up and running
[05:32] <Badm4n> anyone http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116667 <-- have any idea about this ? ( urgent )
[05:32] <ashyg> i have two discs, one contains the 64 bit version of breezy and the other the 32... is there a way to tell which is which? i was an idiot and didn't label them
[05:32] <knoppix> ompaul oh man...lol
[05:32] <Ng> ashyg: mount one and look for the .deb files on it, they will have i386 or amd64 in the filenames
[05:32] <ompaul> knoppix, if it is not natively supported then you are going to the land of ndiswrapper - very well documented
[05:32] <ashyg> yea, i can't mount cause i annihilated my MBR :)
[05:33] <knoppix> i use orinoco gold so should be supported
[05:33] <knoppix> on the wifi end of things
[05:33] <knoppix> i ran into a crap load of pcmcia problems with manrape
[05:33] <ompaul> knoppix, should be okay - keep that wire handy and a knoppix CD @_
[05:33] <ompaul> hehe
[05:33] <ITSa341> I can't get ndiswrapper working for my DLink dwl-g122
[05:33] <ompaul> !tell ITSa341 about ndiswrapper
[05:34] <ompaul> ITSa341, that page should work for you
[05:34] <ashyg> should i install the 64 bit version or 32 bit version on my AMD64? are there any compatability issues with 64 bit that i should be aware of?
[05:34] <ech> blippe, thanks!
[05:34] <knoppix> ill give ubuntu a try but my card is so old i think it would recognize it out of the gate unless it just doesnt have much wifi support
[05:35] <Ng> ashyg: the 32bit one is easier because the codecs/browser plugins Just Work, but you might want to take full advantage of your processor
[05:35] <ITSa341> ompaul  that's where I started    lol
[05:35] <Ng> ashyg: personally I stuck the 32bit one on after a few months of the 64bit one because it was easier and I'm lazy ;)
[05:35] <ashyg> all i'm going to be doing is regular browsing and java programming :)
[05:35] <ashyg> okay 32 i is hehe
[05:35] <ITSa341> I can get the module compiled and loaded and can even detect APs but can't connect with it
[05:36] <Syruss> how can I disable the ctrl+alt+backspace sequence? I keep doing it by accident while switching desktops
[05:36] <ITSa341> but, same setup works fine with this card I am using now
[05:36] <knoppix> does anyone here run orinoco gold on ubuntu
[05:36] <turbofisk> what is usually placed in /opt?
[05:36] <turbofisk> optional?
[05:37] <ITSa341> can anyone recommend a good 108mbps pcmcia card for use with ubuntu? Something supported natively?
[05:37] <e_machinist> There is no particularly safe way to remove some of the gnome stuff is there?
[05:37] <butcherbird> knoppix: used used several orinoco cards detected and worked with no problems
[05:38] <ompaul> ITSa341, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:38] <Estel> Hey :) Where are the network config things stored?
[05:38] <wb> what is the package name of the openldap server? i cant find it.
[05:38] <xiaogil> how to install the gd library to use in php scripts ?
[05:38] <_jason> Syruss, http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/desktop-guide/s1-ddg-lockdown-disable-ctrl-alt-delete.html <--bottom
[05:38] <jariep1_> what package do i need to host a mail server?
[05:39] <ashyg> Does anyone know of a way I can put a new kernel version on the Ubuntu install CD?
[05:39] <ompaul> turbofisk, Add on software packages
[05:39] <ccooke> wb: slapd
[05:39] <skeff> how can I install a 32bit version of libXp ?  If I understand correctly, an installation program from COMSOl Multhiphysics, if you've heard about it, is a java program and tries to run libXp, the java program is 32bit, and my libXp is 64bit... I guess I need a 32bit libXp
[05:39] <wb> ccooke: thank u
[05:39] <ccooke> wb: (apt-cache search openldap server)
[05:39] <psusi> is there a package you can use for burn in stress testing a computer?
[05:40] <ccooke> psusi: yes. doe a search for stess test, there are a few
[05:40] <Kyral> umm, compiling a kernel?
[05:40] <ashyg> yea, i don
[05:40] <ashyg> i don't think i can use ubuntu :(
[05:40] <lukus001> All graphics for my computer have all like messed up, just a bunch of random lines in differernt colours?
[05:40] <ashyg> the kernel is too out of date and doesn't work with my ethernet adaptor
[05:41] <ashyg> and there is no easy way to recompile a new kernel
[05:41] <ashyg> because you need gcc-3.4 for which i cannot find binaries anywhere
[05:41] <ccooke> ashyg: um... that's all wrong
[05:41] <psusi> ccooke: I searched on packages.ubuntu.com... only one that sounds like it might be what I'm looking for is "stress"
[05:41] <ompaul> lukus001, ctrl+alt+f1 when there log in and type this command line >> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:41] <ashyg> not really, ccooke i've been trying for 3 days
[05:41] <ccooke> ashyg: there is an easy eay to recompile and the gcc-3.4 binaries are easily installed
[05:42] <psusi> under windows I'd use prime95.... is there an equivalent in ubuntu?
[05:42] <ashyg> ccooke: without the internet? how?
[05:42] <ccooke> psusi: search in synaptic or on the command line with: apt-cache search keyword1 keyword2
[05:42] <majd> the audio cd sounds really bad
[05:42] <majd> is it just me?
[05:42] <majd> or does linux have playback quality problems?
[05:43] <vermoos> ahoy!
[05:43] <vermoos> i ve "lost" 50 megs on a 128 meg flash card
[05:43] <psusi> ccooke: searching packages.ubuntu.com amounts to the same thing
[05:43] <ccooke> ashyg: did you have to order a cd, or did you burn it?
[05:43] <ompaul> psusi, you found one, to find more https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:43] <ubuntu> Hello
[05:43] <ashyg> ccooke: burned
[05:43] <xiaogil> what is the package to install on ubuntu linux to be able to use the gd library on my apache2 local server ?
[05:43] <ccooke> psusi: not quite
[05:43] <psusi> ompaul: ty
[05:43] <ompaul> psusi, doh!
[05:43] <ccooke> ashyg: so you have acccess to the internet on another computer.
[05:43] <ompaul> psusi, apt-cache search stress | grep test
[05:43] <vermoos> ubuntu: anyone know a howto for formatting flash cards on ubuntu?
[05:43] <ashyg> ccooke: yes, but what would i need to download to get the latest kernel on there?
[05:44] <psusi> ompaul: packages.ubuntu.com has the same list.. actually, it has lists for all distributions, nojust the one you are running like apt-cache does
[05:44] <ccooke> ashyg: you may be looking at things in the wrong way
[05:44] <ccooke> ashyg: what is your network card?
[05:44] <ompaul> psusi, however you are usually only interested in what you are running :)
[05:44] <ccooke> ashyg: it's very rare for a network card to be unsupported
[05:44] <ashyg> uli m5263
[05:44] <gimmulf> Can someone tell me if my opengl is working, glxinfo gives me this: http://pastebin.com/504147
[05:44] <ashyg> ccooke: it is a known issue with the linux kernel versions below 2.6.8
[05:44] <ashyg> ccooke: it is not support in kernel < 2.6.8
[05:45] <turbofisk> how good is the ntfs-write implementation nowadays?
[05:45] <ashyg> there is a patch on kernel.org that has been implemented in more recent kernel builds
[05:45] <majd> you know what would be cool? if you could rearrange the...tabs?...in the start bar
[05:45] <psusi> ompaul: my point is if I didn't find it on packages, I'm not going to in apt-cache ;)
[05:45] <majd> or whatever it's called in ubuntu
[05:45] <Estel> taskbar
[05:45] <majd> yeah if you could rearrange those
[05:45] <majd> it'd be cool
[05:45] <psusi> turbofisk: it isn't enabled because all it allows is overwriting existing files
[05:45] <turbofisk> okay
[05:45] <ashyg> majd, there's a way ;)
[05:46] <turbofisk> but for say... having the same booksmarks in windows and linux it would be nice?
[05:46] <turbofisk> eg symlinking to the windows version
[05:46] <majd> ashyg, seriously? i'll google it then
[05:46] <ccooke> ashyg: er... ubuntu breezy uses 2.4.12, and hoary uses 2.4.10
[05:46] <ccooke> ashyg: what version are you trying to run?
[05:47] <ashyg> majd search for rearranging gnome taskbar tabs or something
[05:47] <gimmulf> how do i make fluxbox start as default when i've removed gdm? :)
[05:47] <ashyg> ccooke: breezy ... wait let me look real quick... i know other people have posted about it on the ubuntu forums
[05:47] <ccooke> ashyg: I meant 2.6.12 and 2.6.10, of course.
[05:47] <ompaul> turbofisk, and a point difference may kill the portablity in browsers unless you do an rfc for portable bookmarks with some open XML spec
[05:47] <ccooke> ashyg: but you definitely have a more recent kernel than 2.6.8!
[05:48] <sorush20> guys I keep getting loadndisdriver error, I have upgraded to dapper and the latest kernel version keeps telling me that could not find the hda1 any help please.. ?
[05:48] <turbofisk> ompaul: erh, firefox?
[05:48] <ashyg> ccooke: http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.13-rc3/2.6.13-rc3-mm1/broken-out/tulip-fixes-for-uli5261.patch
[05:48] <ashyg> maybe it is 2.6.13 then i need
[05:48] <ashyg> i must have been mistaken with 2.6.8, anyways, the ubuntu devs say it works in dapper
[05:48] <ashyg> however dapper cannot detect my PCI IDE controller
[05:49] <sorush20> I an unable to load the previous kernel version, but I am able to log into the recovery mode
[05:49] <ccooke> ashyg: sounds like you have an unlucky hardware combination
[05:49] <ashyg> ccooke: it works fine in windows ;)
[05:49] <ashyg> ccooke: anyways, all i need is to get the latest kernel version
[05:49] <majd> ashyg, couldn't find anything :(
[05:50] <ccooke> ashyg: heh. does it work fine in windows out of the box, or with extra drivers, though?
[05:50] <ompaul> turbofisk, if the versions differ then you could have a problem - you could do something for the firefox project and get into a whole bookmark as an object and standard debate, and work on it from there - nothing worse than munging your bookmarks if you rely on them at all
[05:50] <e_machinist> When I try to uninstall some gnome stuff... it like wants to remove the whole dang system.
[05:50] <ashyg> ccooke: actually now that you remind me i did have to format my windows partition when i bought this motherboard because the drivers wouldn't work
[05:51] <kaecy5> hello guys i need help
[05:51] <turbofisk> ompaul: urhm, why would they implement bookmarks in two different ways? that seems to make no sense
[05:51] <ompaul> e_machinist, if it is saying it will remove ubuntu-desktop that is not everything that is just a list of every package in the desktop that can be removed safely
[05:51] <turbofisk> gotta go check
[05:51] <turbofisk> wait
[05:51] <gimmulf> To start fluxbox as default WM when starting up my machine, do i just create an ~/.xsession and adds startfluxbox?
[05:51] <ompaul> turbofisk, - advances in technology
[05:51] <nomeg1> How do I install the java-plugin to firefox in Breezy Badger?
[05:51] <ashyg> ccooke: so what would you suggest as being the easiest way to install the latest kernel version?
[05:51] <_jason> ubotu, tell nomeg1 about java
[05:51] <ompaul> !tell nomeg1 about java
[05:51] <xiaogil> when i try to install php5, synaptics wants to uninstall phpmyadmin, why ?
[05:51] <nomeg1> thanks
[05:52] <turbofisk> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7095
[05:52] <_jason> ompaul, :)
[05:52] <turbofisk> why is that happening?
[05:52] <e_machinist> ompaul: if I remove ubuntu-desktop, will that just remove the metapackage, or will it remove all of the safe stuff with it?
[05:52] <ompaul> e_machinist, remove the single item that will rip the meta package with great safety
[05:53] <e_machinist> ompaul: say someone wants to remove everything ubuntu-desktop related cause they have installed kubuntu-desktop.. any way to do this?
[05:54] <fms> hi all
[05:54] <Stork> grr, quake4 keeps crashing and breaking my graphics card drivers
[05:54] <fms> can anyone recommend me a repository for 5.10 which includes mplayer?
[05:54] <ccooke> ashyg: it's probably best to try getting the latest drivers for the kernel, actually
[05:55] <butcherbird> fms: you should be able to apt-get mplayer-586 or 386 using reg repo
[05:55] <fms> i tried uncommenting universe and multiverse in the sources.list
[05:55] <ccooke> ashyg: the tulip net drivers may be available seperately. Then you'd only need the build-essential, gcc-3.4 and kernel headers.
[05:55] <ccooke> ashyg: which would cut your download size a bit
[05:55] <fms> butcherbird: sorry what do you mean with "reg repo"?
[05:55] <butcherbird> fms: try sudo apt-get install mplayer-586
[05:56] <fms> butcherbird: i already tried that
[05:56] <_jason> fms, mplayer is in mutliverse
[05:56] <alekandr> Ive just install a few new fonts right, in the correct folders and such, how does one update the font-cache?
[05:56] <ccooke> ashyg: one thing I can recommend - see if you can buy a cheap USB network device. They work well, they're good enough for emergencies, and they'll make sorting this *much* easier
[05:56] <Sionide> anyone know how to fix this;
[05:56] <Sionide> dpkg: syntax error: unknown group 'fuse' in statusoverride file
[05:56] <_jason> fms, multiverse even
[05:56] <ccooke> ashyg: plus, they're amazingly useful to have for emergencies. I keep one in my laptop bag all the time.
[05:56] <ashyg> ccooke: actually, i did :) and i can't get ndiswrapper to work with the drivers for it
[05:56] <ompaul> e_machinist, as far as I know there is no issue with that, however what if the user (A) choose to move back (B) wanted to use a gnome package, if they have the room removing it seems a waste
[05:56] <Sionide> it's stopping me from apt-get update / upgrade ing
[05:56] <ccooke> ashyg: that's a usb wifi card, right?
[05:56] <ccooke> ashyg: I Was thinking wired
[05:57] <ashyg> oh... i have one at home somewhere
[05:57] <ccooke> ashyg: they're simpler, and I don't know any that fail to work
[05:57] <e_machinist> ompaul: yah, I suppose you are right. I'll just edit the KDE menus so I can't see the gnome stuff. haha.
[05:57] <fms> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7096 <- here you can see my sources.list
[05:57] <fms> and i've done apt-get update after the changes to the sources.list
[05:57] <fms> maybe that helps...
[05:58] <_jason> fms, you are missing multiverse
[05:58] <ashyg> another issue i have is that my audigy 2 sound card does not wokr
[05:58] <Sh4d0x> after a whole day of researching on google, i've not been able to find a solution for my wine probleme :(
[05:58] <ompaul> e_machinist, and when you want to find them?
[05:58] <ashyg> but first i want to sort out the networking problem
[05:58] <_jason> fms, add " multiverse" to the end of lines 20,21,36, and 37
[05:59] <fms> _jason: are you sure?
[05:59] <e_machinist> ompaul: when I want to find them... just boot into gnome... haha
[05:59] <_jason> fms, yes
[05:59] <wezzer> is there any "irssi"-knowledge around?
[05:59] <Fujoor> try #irssi , they are always helpful
[06:00] <xiaogil> comment faire marcher gd library sur ubuntu une fois les bons paquets installs et apache2 relanc ?
[06:00] <MrSunshine> anyone had problem with ubuntu working realy slow?
[06:00] <wezzer> ok, thanks
[06:00] <nomeg1> I don't really feel that the firefox-java plugin procedure is "for human beings" ..
[06:00] <fms> _jason: thank you, should have found that myself
[06:00] <MrSunshine> starting Eterm, window comes up directly but it takes like 3 secs to get a command prompt
[06:01] <varsendagger> hey i am going through istall and it laodes everyting at 6% then kapoot debootstrap return error 2
[06:01] <nubbe> How do I change the Evince config (and save it)? I haven't found any .evince or such...
[06:02] <tixak> How can I use PCMCIA modem Siemens MC 45 ?
[06:02] <christos> hello, i just plugged a new monitor and i want to update the settings, i tried running dexconf but didn't do anything. what should i do?
[06:03] <soundray> christos, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[06:04] <pinkisntwell> mplayer loses video/audio sync, what should I do?
[06:04] <_jason> pinkisntwell, try running it with the -framedrop options
[06:04] <ompaul> pinkisntwell, start it at the command line read the output of the screen and it will give you suggestions
[06:06] <MrSunshine> how do i install all the dev tools? ... do i have to do it by selecting all packages manualy? :/
[06:06] <MrSunshine> (gcc, g++ automake etc)
[06:06] <aba-> apt-get install build-essential
[06:06] <noob_ubuntu> q: should wacom graphire work out of the box when booting live cd?
[06:06] <_jason> MrSunshine, what aba- said ^
[06:07] <aba-> :-)
[06:07] <jariep1_> how can I install Sun's java so i can uninstall it easily?
[06:07] <noob_ubuntu> q2: whats wrong with fonts in gnome?
[06:07] <noob_ubuntu> kerning seems bork and antialiasing is really ugly?
[06:07] <noob_ubuntu> is that normal?
[06:07] <nomeg1> thanks guys
[06:08] <jariep1_> can i use checkinstall with a bin file such as java jdk?
[06:08] <_jason> ubotu, tell jariep1_ about java
[06:08] <soundray> jariep1_, you should follow ubotu's instructions for installing java.
[06:08] <sorush21> I have upgraded to ubuntu dapper but I keep getting the message during bootup that hda could not be found during kubuntu start up
[06:09] <tixak> How can I use PCMCIA modem Siemens MC 45 ?
[06:09] <soundray> tixak, is it recognized?
[06:10] <atlas> hello i'm searchinf for someone who use Qemu with Xp installed on
[06:11] <ashyg> ccooke: the version of linux-source at packages.ubuntu.com is only 2.6.12
[06:11] <Seveas> !tell jariep1_ about javadeb
[06:11] <ashyg> Does anyone know if I can download the Dapper kernel sources and compile them in Breezy?
[06:12] <ccooke> ashyg: you can run a dapper kernel on breezy, yes.
[06:12] <Seveas> ashyg, you can but you shouldn't - it'll bring you all kinds of nastiness
[06:12] <ashyg> Seveas: i need to
[06:12] <tyotyo> hello
[06:12] <ashyg> Seveas: because the kernel version in breezy is outdated and doesn't support my network card
[06:12] <ccooke> ashyg: actually... if you're willing to trust a kernel from me, I have one I run on my MythTV box - 2.4.14, IIRC
[06:12] <Seveas> ashyg, better completely upgrade to dapper then
[06:12] <jariep1_> ubotu, tell jariep1_ about javadeb
[06:12] <ccooke> ashyg: it runs fine and is built as a .deb
[06:13] <ashyg> Seveas: i can't because dapper doesn't detect my pci ide card
[06:13] <ashyg> ccooke: okay, send it
[06:13] <sorush21> is there a way to downgrade to breezy from dapper?
[06:13] <ccooke> ashyg: just a minute, then
[06:13] <Seveas> sorush21, no
[06:13] <tyotyo> hello seveas
[06:13] <Seveas> hi
[06:14] <tyotyo> what are you doing
[06:14] <gsuveg> re
[06:14] <lukus001> is usr/local the normal place for application to install?
[06:14] <Seveas> lukus001, no
[06:14] <darkosaric_> hi
[06:14] <gsuveg> anyone know a ubuntu install guide ?
[06:14] <sorush21> hda is not being detected by dapper kernel but it is being detected by the older breezy kernel.
[06:14] <lukus001> seveas, where should i install 3delight to then? http://www.3delight.com/renderman_download.htm
[06:15] <gsuveg> i need support install via phone ;)
[06:15] <jariep1_> Seveas, thanks
[06:15] <Seveas> gsuveg, help.ubuntu.com / wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[06:15] <gsuveg> Seveas: thanks a lot
[06:15] <sorush21> I'm unable to execute the command modprobe ndiswrapper
[06:16] <sorush21> I keep getting the message that permission is denied..
[06:16] <Seveas> sorush21, use a 686/k7 kernel
[06:16] <Seveas> lukus001, ah manually installing, then yes, /usr/local
[06:16] <lukus001> seveas, ah ok, ty
[06:16] <turbofisk> I dont have a /etc/fonts/local.conf, is that a problem?
[06:17] <Badm4n> ubotu tell me trafshow
[06:17] <da5id_> hi, anyone know why local mail has been removed from breezy?
[06:17] <Seveas> turbofisk, why would it be?
[06:17] <turbofisk> Seveas: because artwiz readme tells me to put stuff in it
[06:17] <turbofisk> and it's not completely working
[06:18] <Seveas> da5id_, it has been removed from ubuntu-desktop because it is a useless service on a desktop, it has not been removed from Ubuntu: you can still install it manually
[06:18] <turbofisk> the fonts are found with fc-list, but not xlsfonts
[06:18] <ccooke> ashyg: okay
[06:18] <ccooke> ashyg: http://earth.gkhs.net/~ccooke/2.6.14/
[06:18] <ccooke> ashyg: try that
[06:18] <Seveas> then artwiz is broken
[06:18] <turbofisk> well, I've been fiddeling with it a while now
[06:19] <turbofisk> and last night it was vise-versa
[06:19] <ashyg> thanks ccooke
[06:19] <turbofisk> eg, xls found it, but not fc-list
[06:19] <sorush21> what are the log pages I need to look at to trouble shoot if kernle in dapper is not detecting hda1
[06:19] <lukus001> The program im trying to install require the command "unsetenv DELIGHT" but the command unsetenv is not found?
[06:19] <turbofisk> so I think it's more likely I'm broken
[06:19] <da5id_> Seveas, I don't agree, lots of software expects local mail to be there, so failures don't go unrecognised by the sysadmin
[06:19] <ccooke> ashyg: it's a few months old, though, and I forget the config.
[06:19] <Seveas> da5id_, that's what logs are for...
[06:19] <ccooke> ashyg: I think that one is still a generic kernel, though
[06:20] <ccooke> ashyg: so, basically, everything that the ubuntu kernel would turn on
[06:20] <da5id_> Seveas, speaking of which I cannot find bootlog either...
[06:20] <Seveas> da5id_, /var/log/dmesg
[06:20] <Seveas> da5id_, /var/log/kern.log
[06:20] <Seveas> etc...
[06:20] <ashyg> how's perl 5.0 work for you ccooke?
[06:20] <turbofisk> Seveas: you have a good answer to my question? :)
[06:20] <lukus001> the comman unsetenv is not found? what am i suposed to ue (unset?)
[06:21] <sorush21> why I use ls I get a huge list of files that I can't see all of them
[06:21] <ccooke> ashyg: what about it?
[06:21] <Seveas> sorush21, ls | less
[06:21] <turbofisk> sorush21: ls | more
[06:21] <soundray> turbofisk, artwiz is seriously buggy.
[06:21] <turbofisk> soundray: no kidding :)
[06:21] <ompaul> Seveas, as they say less is the new more :)
[06:21] <turbofisk> it worked well yesterday vise versa
[06:21] <ashyg> ccooke: it looks to have some changes from 4.x
[06:22] <halibut> should I avoid nforce motherboards for using ubuntu?
[06:22] <ccooke> ashyg: ... yes, rather huge.
[06:22] <turbofisk> also the "new" has fixed some bugs
[06:22] <Heroin> how do i get gentoo desktop?
[06:22] <Heroin> whats the cmd? get- ....
[06:22] <ompaul> Heroin, #gentoo
[06:22] <Seveas> ompaul, most is even better
[06:22] <ccooke> ashyg: but perl 5.x has been out for a long time.
[06:22] <da5id_> Seveas, I know there are workarounds and of course I can install everything later, but I really don't agree with not having local mail activated by default, at least do it like debian and ask a question about it during install
[06:22] <Heroin> ompaul whats the command
[06:22] <ashyg> ccooke: i use 4.x still
[06:22] <ompaul> Heroin, /join #gentoo
[06:22] <Seveas> da5id_, it's been discussed a lot on the devel lists
[06:22] <Seveas> and such questions during install are not ok in Ubuntu
[06:23] <sorush21> Seveas: what is this called |
[06:23] <ashyg> ccooke: we have too much legacy code that would take a while to port
[06:23] <Seveas> sorush21, a pipe
[06:23] <turbofisk> da5id_: while I agree that having a local mail-server is a nice thing for powerusers, it's not something users generally need. If you want it, you can install it...
[06:23] <ashyg> a pipe passes the output of the first operation to the second
[06:23] <Heroin> lol sorry d00d i meant the desktop gnome :P:P
[06:23] <ashyg> for instance, ls -la | grep ".deb" will find all .deb files in the current directory :)
[06:23] <turbofisk> but why can't you have a small daemon that sends mail like a client so you get it in your regular mail?
[06:23] <korptix> hi i done a scan on a ip range for test and it wont check for an open port maybe i ask why?
[06:23] <Heroin> how do i get gnome? get-..?
[06:23] <Seveas> Heroin, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:24] <ompaul> Heroin, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:24] <ompaul> okay I am lagging
[06:24] <da5id_> turbofisk, I'm not talking about a full fledged mail server, local mail is a different issue
[06:24] <Seveas> ompaul, slowpoke irish penguin!
[06:24] <turbofisk> okay, I'm shutting up :)
[06:24] <korptix> Seveas: i done a scan on a ip range for test and it wont check for an open port maybe i ask why?
[06:24] <korptix> =\
[06:24] <pinkisntwell> mplayer still lags... but only when using esd as the sound output
[06:24] <sorush21> is hda is not detected by the new kernel where do I look for trouble shooting,,
[06:24] <ompaul> Seveas, thanks for your concern :)
[06:24] <Heroin> 1242MB!? for gentoo..
[06:24] <sorush21> also kerenel 2.6.15
[06:25] <Heroin> what is a light desktop?
[06:25] <Heroin> xwindow?
[06:25] <Seveas> Heroin, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:25] <Seveas> xfce
[06:25] <keleksi> gnome
[06:25] <korptix> Seveas : ??
[06:25] <turbofisk> I seriously want artwiz to work :(
[06:25] <Heroin> xfce = small?
[06:25] <Seveas> Heroin, smaller than gnome
[06:26] <Seveas> !tell korptix about patience
[06:26] <korptix> Seveas : ok
[06:26] <Seveas> korptix, man nmap
[06:26] <picasso> has anyone used sshfw ?
[06:26] <picasso> sshfs that is
[06:26] <Heroin> urm ok
[06:26] <RickKnight> tolstoy: Are you around?
[06:26] <korptix> nah not namp
[06:26] <korptix> *nmap
[06:26] <Seveas> picasso, yes, it rocks :)
[06:26] <korptix> ssh scanner
[06:26] <picasso> seveas: i'm having trouble being able to mount something so that my user account has access to it
[06:26] <Seveas> picasso, don't mount as root
[06:27] <korptix> Seveas : Finish checking open port on range 213.11  # Found: 0 #
[06:27] <korptix>  also my friend done it and he got 300+ open ports
[06:27] <Seveas> picasso, add the user that needs to access it to the fuse group
[06:27] <gimmulf_> hwo do i find out how much space a dir is using?
[06:27] <picasso> ahh fuse group
[06:27] <Seveas> picasso, and as that user, use sshfs
[06:27] <picasso> that would do it
[06:27] <picasso> gracias
[06:27] <Seveas> gimmulf_, du -sh .
[06:27] <gimmulf_> thanks
[06:28] <Seveas> korptix, doing scans on public networks is not done.
[06:28] <lukus001> can somone help me intall 3delight please?
[06:28] <Seveas> We do not support such things in here
[06:28] <korptix> Seveas : like i said i was testing it plus im gonna do it on my friends webhosting subnet
[06:29] <vash> Hello
[06:29] <korptix> Seveas : but it scans the ips but doesnt tell me if the port is open
[06:29] <Seveas> korptix, then read the documentation for that tool, I don't know it so I cannot help (neither do I want to)
[06:29] <Seveas> hi vash
[06:29] <vash> hello
[06:30] <korptix> Seveas : isnt there a command line where i can enable it ?
[06:30] <vash> Can you help me lol, i messed up installing sorta
[06:30] <Seveas> vash, be a bit more specific and maybe we can help
[06:30] <vash> lol
[06:31] <korptix> ...
[06:31] <vash> I installed it and im in it right now, but i had trouble selecting resolutions
[06:31] <Seveas> !fixres
[06:31] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:31] <Seveas> that may help
[06:31] <j3di> ok i need some help unconfusing myself about permission settings
[06:32] <halibut> will ubuntu run ok on a laptop?
[06:32] <sorush21> are there pipes in windows command prompt?
[06:32] <Seveas> halibut, it does on both my laptops and all other laptops I know of
[06:32] <Seveas> sorush21, no
[06:32] <lukus001> how do you get computer's mac address?
[06:32] <seashell11> halibut, ive installed ubuntu on a couple laptops, and they both worked
[06:32] <Seveas> windows command line is severely crippled
[06:32] <ashyg> so ccooke i just dpkg -i the two pkgs you gave me
[06:32] <Heroin> bah ill start with ubuntu desktop :S
[06:32] <Seveas> lukus001, ifconfig
[06:32] <Seveas> it's the HWAddr
[06:32] <DShepherd> sorush21, maybe broken ones :)
[06:33] <j3di> a file (or directory) belongs to a user and a group, what group does a file belong to when the file is created?
[06:33] <lukus001> seveas, thank you
[06:33] <sorush21> is a kernel is unable to detect hda1 what can I do?
[06:33] <Seveas> j3di, usually the user who creates the file
[06:33] <jjosk>  I just compiled new kernel to .deb package and installed it. After reboot xorg couldn't find nvidia module? Splash screen won't either work.
[06:33] <j3di> why
[06:33] <j3di> '
[06:33] <Seveas> j3di, because that user creates it :)
[06:33] <j3di> wouldnt it belong to the PRIMARY group the user belongs to?
[06:33] <Seveas> sorush21, panic
[06:34] <Seveas> jjosk, recompile nvidia module, recreate your initrd
[06:34] <butcherbird> sorush21: what format is hda1?
[06:34] <Vivaldi> is ubuntu superior to kanotix?
[06:34] <ompaul> j3di, the users primary group is?
[06:34] <elDuarte> hello everybody!
[06:34] <Seveas> Vivaldi, if you ask that in here you'll undoubtedly get 'yes' as answer
[06:34] <ashyg> ccooke: i am getting "Hm, the package shipped with a symbolic link /lib/modules/2.6.14.36custom2/source however i can not read it: no such file or directory so i am deleting it" and the same thing for "/lib/modules/2.6.14.36custom2/build"
[06:34] <sorush21> butcherbird: ext3
[06:34] <ompaul> Vivaldi, As a fan of both yes, they do different jobs for me :-)
[06:34] <Vivaldi> timothykaine Vivaldi: Its a matter of opinion, but I think around here you will get a resounding "Yes" <-- in #kanotix
[06:34] <ashyg> but it still installed so time to reboot and see how she works :)
[06:35] <ccooke> ashyg: good luck!
[06:35] <sorush21> This only happens on the latest version of kernel with dapper..
[06:35] <Vivaldi> ompaul, could you be specific? i am interested in the difference of use
[06:35] <Seveas> sorush21, your initrd may be busted, dpkg-reconfigure your kernel to recreate it
[06:35] <jjosk> Seveas: But I did maka-kpkg with --initrd
[06:35] <ashyg> ALERT! /dev/sdb1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
[06:35] <thegladiator> lowman62, dma shud be eanbled  or disabled for the sound to be in sync with the video ?
[06:36] <j3di> who cares what the primary group is
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> enable dma.
[06:36] <Seveas> j3di, lots of things...
[06:36] <ompaul> Vivaldi, I use it as my demo/rescue disk and ubuntu as my install
[06:36] <thegladiator> thank you
[06:36] <j3di> when a file is made.. what group does it belong to by default..
[06:36] <Seveas> ashyg, this is exactly why you should stick to ubuntu kernels :)
[06:36] <Seveas> j3di, usually the primary group of th user who creates it
[06:36] <ashyg> Seveas: well, should i install the dapper kernel on breezy then?
[06:37] <Seveas> ashyg, no
[06:37] <vash> How do i select these other resolutions, it acts like i should add a *, but i dunno what key
[06:37] <j3di> is there a way to switch what group your files you create belong to BEFORE they get created?
[06:37] <ompaul> Vivaldi, It is a throwback to when I used kanotix and Debian/other GNU/Linux pre using ubuntu
[06:37] <ashyg> Seveas: then what should id o?
[06:37] <Seveas> either live withput that hardware or go completely to dapper
[06:37] <ashyg> i can't do either of those
[06:37] <ashyg> i can't work without my ethernet
[06:37] <j3di> whats the default permission levels of a created file? 775?
[06:37] <ashyg> and i can't use dapper because the install process doesn't detect my drives
[06:37] <Seveas> j3di, man chmod; man umask
[06:37] <varsendagger> i am having a heck of a time installing ubuntu 6.10
[06:37] <McJerry> can i make a usb key bootable with ubuntu on it?
[06:37] <jjosk> Seveas: And isn't nvidia binary only because it's not open source driver
[06:37] <ompaul> !dapper
[06:37] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[06:37] <Seveas> varsendagger, not surprising
[06:38] <Seveas> varsendagger, ubuntu 6.10 does not exist
[06:38] <sorush21> I just changed my repositories form breezy to dapper and on sudo apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade there where initially a few errors.. But during recovery mode and redoing the commands I managed to get internet connection via the ndiswarapper but on reboot after upgrade hda could not be found by the new kernel..
[06:38] <ompaul> Seveas, your still too fast
[06:38] <ccooke> j3di: man sg
[06:38] <Seveas> ompaul, that may be a side effect of taking too much lsd ;)
[06:38] <varsendagger> when i am installing the base system it retreving  and stuff and it stays at 6%
[06:38] <ccooke> j3di: It'll let you change group.
[06:38] <varsendagger> ok ok 5.10
[06:38] <varsendagger> i am really looking forward to 6.10
[06:39] <ccooke> j3di: much the same as su, but for groups instead of user
[06:39] <ashyg> so Seveas are you recommending i not use ubuntu?
[06:39] <synic> anyone know of a firefox 1.5 deb for amd64?
[06:39] <McJerry> can anyone help me with bootable usb key
[06:39] <lukus001> how do you luacnh an application which is in the menu & you dont know the name for it to launch it by the command line?
[06:39] <lukus001> isnt in
[06:39] <varsendagger> too much lsd  there is no such thing
[06:39] <varsendagger> any ideas
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> find the name for it.
[06:40] <synic> varsendagger: right click on the "Applications", go to edit menus
[06:40] <Heroin> does ubuntu have a packges page?
[06:40] <nubbe> synic, I don't think there is one yet
[06:40] <_jason> lukus001, you find the command for it, did you install it with a package?
[06:40] <chasmarang> how can i deny access to spammers in my server
[06:40] <j3di> No manual entry for umask
[06:40] <Seveas> Heroin, packages.ubuntu.com
[06:40] <varsendagger> just a sec and i can probably get an error message in a bit
[06:40] <synic> nubbe: lame
[06:40] <Seveas> j3di, man bash, search for umask
[06:40] <Heroin> thx seveas
[06:40] <lukus001> _jason, i installed a program called  3delight - downloaded the tar and followed it all but it doesn say how t laucnh it all at
[06:40] <varsendagger> synic,  i don't have "applications" i am in the isntall
[06:41] <synic> you said "menu"
[06:41] <ashyg> Seveas: should i not use ubuntu for a home system, then?
[06:41] <_jason> lukus001, no readme file?
[06:41] <varsendagger> lukus001, go to a terminal and type 3delight
[06:41] <lukus001> varsendagger, tried that before
[06:41] <CarinArr> lukus001, it doesn't run like that
[06:41] <CarinArr> it's renderdl or shaderdl i think
[06:41] <lukus001> _jason, nope =(
[06:42] <eldamito> Hi, Whats up?
[06:42] <ashyg> okay  i guess i will install gentoo :(
[06:42] <lukus001> CarinArr, how does it run?
[06:42] <vash> after i run that config tools, do i need to restart the pc
[06:42] <thegladiator> ashyg, why gentoo ?
[06:42] <w0rd54> when I type "make" says command not found.....what package can I apt-get to solve this issue?  I'd like complete gcc support so I can compile from source
[06:42] <ashyg> ubuntu doesn't work, thegladiator
[06:42] <_jason> w0rd54, build-essential
[06:42] <ashyg> with my hardware
[06:42] <chasmarang> CarinArr: how can i deny access to spammers in my server
[06:42] <mae> ashyg: well that narrows it down
[06:43] <thegladiator> vash, restart X shub be enuf at most
[06:43] <sorush21> where are all the errors reported in ubuntu?
[06:43] <ashyg> mae: i've been in this channel for 3 days trying to get help, no one's been able to get it working
[06:43] <CarinArr> lukus001, well you need a .rib file to render.. then you do renderdl whatever.rib
[06:43] <vash> yea, about that. Im new to linux, how do i accomplish this task lol
[06:43] <mae> ashyg: whats the problem
[06:43] <thegladiator> ashyg, sorry about that . yours is outdated model or just lacking support ?
[06:43] <ashyg> mae: i have an uli m5263 ethernet adaptor and it doesn't work with the kernel version included with breezy
[06:43] <CarinArr> chasmarang, ah, i'm probably not the right person to ask;)
[06:43] <ashyg> mae: i need 2.6.13
[06:43] <_jason> vash, ctrl+alt+backspace will restart X
[06:43] <chasmarang> k
[06:44] <vash> ok
[06:44] <lukus001> CarinArr, i thought you could model in it though?
[06:44] <CarinArr> lukus001, no.. 3delight is just a renderer
[06:44] <mae> ashyg: if your used to gentoo, compile your own kernel :)
[06:44] <CarinArr> you need to model somewhere else and export the .rib file from there
[06:44] <chasmarang> how can i deny access to spammers in my server
[06:44] <ashyg> mae: i did compile my own kernel then it wouldn't detect my PCI IDE controller and my drives
[06:44] <CarinArr> you'd prolly use blender or something like that to create the actual scene
[06:44] <ashyg> same thing happened on dapper
[06:44] <varsendagger> hey where is everybody?
[06:44] <ashyg> i think that's an issue with the 2.6.13 kernel
[06:44] <lukus001> CarinArr.. oh i must have miss read somthing then lol
[06:44] <j3di> what if i'm creating files from and ftp program
[06:44] <CarinArr> ;)
[06:44] <j3di> ?
[06:45] <lukus001> Carinarr, thanks for your help
[06:45] <j3di> what if i'm creating files from proftp/
[06:45] <thegladiator> varsendagger, dissapeared perhaps?  :=)
[06:45] <CarinArr> lukus001, s'alright, just happen to have used 3delight plenty in the past
[06:45] <noob_ubuntu> q: should wacom graphire work out of the box when booting live cd?
[06:45] <thegladiator> does anyone know how I cud remove the controls from GUI controls from Mplayer ?
[06:46] <yggdrasil_> how can i uninstall something using cmd line
[06:46] <_jason> thegladiator, run mplayer instead of gmplayer
[06:46] <thegladiator> ok
[06:46] <chasmarang> CarinArr: are you the only tech
[06:46] <ashyg> this is why i hate linux... horrible hardware support. it makes development easy and it's nice to use but the hardware support is absolute horrible :(
[06:46] <thegladiator> _jason, are you on mplayer?
[06:46] <lukus001> CarinArr, do you know of any application that you can model using splines?
[06:46] <_jason> thegladiator, on it?  I use it
[06:47] <joejje> anyone here successfully patched kernel-source with vesafb-tng-patch?
[06:47] <varsendagger> ok ok the debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1) check  /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for details
[06:47] <thegladiator> _jason, yes using , does the control appear when you drag the mouse to the bottom dege of the screen after you change the skin ?
[06:47] <thegladiator> _jason, do you prefer GUI or mplayer ?
[06:47] <j3di> ok if i change the umask in the shell .. does it stay??
[06:47] <mae> ashyg: if you absolutely must have a newer kernel, try dapper - i put it on my gf's and it is running fine
[06:48] <mae> mileage will vary though :)
[06:48] <CarinArr> lukus001, uhm.. i THINK you can do so in blender.. not sure.. apart from that i don't know about freeware ones for linux
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> j3di,  untill you logout
[06:48] <mae> ashyg: get the colony 2 cd
[06:48] <xiaogil> when i try to install php5, synaptics wants to uninstall phpmyadmin, why ?
[06:48] <_jason> thegladiator, I prefer mplayer.  I find the keyboard shortcuts easier to use and more effecient.  I'm not sure about the control appearing when i drag the mouse
[06:48] <chasmarang> Dr_Willis: how can i deny access to spammers in my server
[06:48] <thegladiator> as long as I cant have the controls coming up while I move the mouse to bottm edge of the screen in full screen mode , I dont need Gmplayer
[06:48] <sorush21> !dapper
[06:48] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[06:48] <lukus001> Carinarr, nah blender hasnt got that feature at all thought it is to be implemented
[06:48] <thegladiator> _jason, correct i started liking it as well
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> chasmarang,  no clue. i dont run mail servers.
[06:48] <mae> ashyg: ack i mean 'flight 2' cd
[06:48] <_jason> thegladiator, oh that, yeah they won't appear
[06:48] <lukus001> Carinarr, alright vheer bud for all your help
[06:48] <chasmarang> apache2
[06:48] <sorush21> will udev be compatible with ndiswrapper?
[06:48] <lukus001> Cheers*
[06:48] <yggdrasil_> how can i uninstall something using cmd line
[06:49] <thegladiator> _jason, ah thanks
[06:49] <varsendagger> and then i ty to go to the /target/var/log/botstrap.log it doesn't work
[06:49] <_jason> yggdrasil, sudo apt-get remove something
[06:49] <varsendagger> any ideas
[06:49] <yggdrasil_> thanks jason
[06:49] <chasmarang> how can i deny access to spammers in my Apache2 server
[06:49] <thegladiator> chasmarang, spammers like ?
[06:49] <thegladiator> chasmarang, what do the spammers do on ur system ?
[06:50] <chasmarang> try to access
[06:50] <thegladiator> chasmarang, there is no means of distinguishing a good user and bad user I gues
[06:50] <thegladiator> chasmarang, whats the server doing ?
[06:51] <chasmarang> i just want to deny *.*.*.*
[06:51] <thegladiator> chasmarang, just some specific IP adresses ?
[06:51] <chasmarang> yes
[06:51] <thegladiator> chasmarang, just can set a firewall then mate
[06:51] <thegladiator> !firewall
[06:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[06:51] <picasso> hey, is there any way to apply group changes to my current x session w/o logging out?
[06:51] <j3di> how can i change the umask for good?
[06:51] <chasmarang> i have one
[06:51] <thegladiator> did you try firestarted ?
[06:51] <thegladiator> just add the IP to your list and you should be safe
[06:52] <gnomefreak> ok someone in here asked me about the loading mods screen the resolution failing if your still here its a bug :)
[06:52] <picasso> j3di: /etc/login.conf looks like?
[06:52] <yggdrasil_> wtf my menu bar in xchat is gone... anyone ?
[06:52] <ashyg> Sorry to be off-topic, but can someone recommend for me an up-to-date Linux distribution with a recent kernel build?
[06:52] <thegladiator> yggdrasil, ctrl+f9
[06:52] <picasso> ashyg: go troll somewhere else?
[06:52] <j3di> 192.168.10.183
[06:52] <Vash> I restarted X, and my monitor started saying Over, and now im in xp, how do i fix that?
[06:52] <yggdrasil_> thanks theglad
[06:52] <j3di> ::/etc/login.conf: No such file or directory
[06:53] <picasso> oh oops
[06:53] <gnomefreak> ashyg, more up to date than ubuntu?
[06:53] <_jason> picasso, nah he is having problems with ubuntu supporting his hardware
[06:53] <picasso> i was looking on my bsd system heh
[06:53] <ashyg> picasso: i'm not trolling, i asked an honest question
[06:53] <picasso> ok my bad
[06:53] <picasso> sry
[06:53] <thegladiator> ashyg, ubuntu with latest kernel
[06:53] <ashyg> thegladiator: i can't seem to get the latest kernel to detect my PCI IDE drives
[06:53] <ashyg> rather, drives on my PCI IDE controller
[06:53] <picasso> /etc/profile
[06:53] <ashyg> it says /dev/sdb1 (the drive it's installed on) can't be found
[06:53] <gnomefreak> ubuntu is the latest release of most distros seeing as it is one of only that is released every 6 months
[06:53] <picasso> $ grep umask /etc/profile
[06:53] <picasso> umask 022
[06:54] <chasmarang> does anyone know anything about apache and where i can get clearer instructions
[06:54] <thegladiator> google mate
[06:54] <Vash> anyone know how i can fix X after runing the config its saying out of range
[06:54] <gnomefreak> !apache
[06:54] <ubotu> I guess apache is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[06:54] <thegladiator> !botsnack
[06:54] <ubotu> thanks thegladiator :)
[06:54] <chasmarang> does anyone know anything about apache and where i can get clearer instructions
[06:54] <ashyg> i really want to use ubuntu, i like it and i like the community... i am just having trouble
[06:55] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell chasmarang about apache
[06:55] <ashyg> and i am getting tired of messing with it and am now just trying to find something that "just works" until dapper is released
[06:55] <gnomefreak> chasmarang, read the msg ubotu sent you
[06:55] <picasso> ubotu status
[06:55] <Afief> can someone tell me how to connect my linux box to the internet through my windows box?
[06:55] <thegladiator> gnomefreak, you are very patient :)
[06:56] <gnomefreak> sometimes :)
[06:56] <sabera> hi
[06:56] <nico> hi
[06:56] <j3di> there was a login.defs
[06:56] <sabera> how can i print from ubunto to widows
[06:56] <j3di> so which do i mess with? login.defs, or /etc/profiles
[06:56] <ashyg> so would anyone be able to recommend a method of installing an up-to-date kernel on Breezy that will work with my pCI controller
[06:57] <_jason> j3di, to do what?
[06:57] <nico> i have a question... when i want to play a game in a window
[06:57] <picasso> ubotu, drugs?
[06:57] <ubotu> mmm mmm!! i love dem drugs!
[06:57] <picasso> :P
[06:57] <nico> the mouse doesn't work in the window
[06:57] <sabera> how can i read films,
[06:57] <Afief> can someone tell me how to connect my linux box to the internet through my windows box?
[06:57] <hyakuhei> Afief NAT
[06:57] <hyakuhei> Thats known as ICS on windows :D google
[06:58] <yggdrasil_> if i do a server install of ubuntu and then just do an apt-get fluxbox or something will it get dependancies for x and install it ?
[06:58] <hyakuhei> yggdrasil_: thats what I did
[06:58] <j3di> so which do i mess with? login.defs, or /etc/profiles to change the default umask?
[06:58] <yggdrasil_> hyakauhie cool im interested in doing something for a vdr box connected to a tv
[06:59] <hyakuhei> yggdrasil_: sounds like fun
[06:59] <tristan__> how do I get my svideo out on my geforce 5200 to display on my TV?
[06:59] <maria> HOLA
[06:59] <ompaul>  !es
[06:59] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:59] <Scorch`> whats LVM?
[06:59] <ompaul> !lvm
[06:59] <ubotu> lvm is, like, (for the moment) http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[06:59] <_jason> j3di, I don't think /etc/profile gets sourced when you log into gnome
[06:59] <Scorch`> ah
[07:00] <j3di> i'm not using gnome
[07:00] <ashyg> So can anyone recommend a way to get Ubuntu working with an up-to-date kernel? There are no modern kernel builds at packages.ubuntu.com
[07:00] <Afief> please? anybody? my modem doesn't have an ubuntu driver and i'm not getting any internet connection through the network. please help
[07:00] <ompaul> j3di, get thee hence to endless kde then in #kubuntu all the fun of the fair 24/7
[07:00] <Scorch`> should i use LVM?
[07:00] <hyakuhei> _jason: if you want to know for sure: strace `which gdm` | grep /etc/profile
[07:01] <ompaul> Scorch`, it is one of those things if you have to ask then no
[07:01] <hyakuhei> Afief: I allready told you
[07:01] <Scorch`> hm ok thanks
[07:01] <j3di> dude., i need a system wide umask, for ftp, ssh, samba and netatalk.. there is no gui on this comp.. dig?
[07:01] <_jason> j3di, there are some comments on it in the login.defs file that you migth want to read.  I don't know the answer to your question though
[07:01] <Scorch`> any reason why? o.O
[07:01] <_jason> hyakuhei, thanks
[07:01] <korptix> Time: Jan 14 05:01:38 Source: 213.39.***.** Destination: 58.105.142.*** In IF: eth1 Out IF:  Port: 10453 Length: 60 ToS: 0x00 Protocol: TCP Service: Unknown
[07:02] <Afief> hyakuhei... NAT? there is no router. i am using a cross network cable
[07:02] <korptix> i have that loaded on my firewall
[07:02] <korptix> theres about 200 ips connecting to that port
[07:02] <korptix> why/
[07:02] <fr0xx> What can cause my Ubuntu being freezed once in X's time (minutes/hours)?
[07:02] <ompaul> Afief, have a look at www.linmodems.com to find your modem and a maybe a driver for it, the other thing you could do is get an external modem they just work (more to the point I have yet to see one that did not)
[07:03] <hyakuhei> Afief: You set up ICS (Internet connection sharing) on your windows box, ICS is actually microsofts version of (Network Address Translation)
[07:03] <ompaul> fr0xx, the driver for your video card, as a matter of interest what video card do you have
[07:03] <Afief> ompaul: i am only rarely home, but i won't have time to mess too much with ubuntu when i'm back to college
[07:03] <fr0xx> ompaul, how can I check that?
[07:04] <Afief> hyakuhei: how do i set that up? it say limited or no connectivity all the time
[07:04] <ompaul> Afief, I am pointing you to where you can find solutions to what appears to be a winmodem problem
[07:04] <vash> I have no icon's on my desktop, how do i mount the hard drive where my documents should be stored
[07:04] <korptix> Time: Jan 14 05:01:38 Source: 213.39.***.** Destination: 58.105.142.*** In IF: eth1 Out IF:  Port: 10453 Length: 60 ToS: 0x00 Protocol: TCP Service: Unknown
[07:04] <korptix> i have that loaded on my firewall
[07:04] <korptix> theres about 200 ips connecting to that port
[07:04] <linuxboy> how can I get /dev/tcp ?
[07:04] <Afief> ompaul: the modem is only sold in israel, there is a linux driver for it, but very buggy. and since i will only rarely use it, i prefer to get the network to work
[07:05] <ompaul> Afief, enjoy nat over windows
[07:05] <fr0xx> ompaul, any idea how can I fix it?
[07:06] <indo> is there a way to play .wma on linux? or do i need to convert them all to mp3?
[07:06] <tristan> how do I get my svideo out to go to my tv from my geforce 5200
[07:07] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell indo about restricted
[07:07] <korptix> Time: Jan 14 05:01:38 Source: 213.39.***.** Destination: 58.105.142.*** In IF: eth1 Out IF:  Port: 10453 Length: 60 ToS: 0x00 Protocol: TCP Service: Unknown
[07:07] <korptix> theres about 200 ips connecting to that port
[07:07] <Nogimics> tristan with an S-Video cable out of your TV-out port
[07:07] <Nogimics> Plug into your TV's S-Video port
[07:07] <Heroin> how do i reconfigure my ubuntu-desktop from terminal?
[07:08] <tristan> Nogimics, please don't patronize me.
[07:08] <tristan> Obviously, it's connected with a cable.
[07:08] <Nogimics> lol well you need to be more specific lol
[07:08] <gnomefreak> Heroin, what are you wanting to do? reconfiguring desktop doesnt say much
[07:08] <tristan> Nogimics, not really.
[07:08] <tristan> I need to get it to output to my TV.
[07:08] <ompaul> Heroin, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:09] <tristan> I managed to connect to the irc which proves I have an intelligence greater than a turtle, so I managed the s-video cable part.
[07:09] <Heroin> gnome.. i think i exidenly put my ubuntudesktop in 1920x1800 while install
[07:09] <x_or> Can anyone tell me how I can configure screen resolutions?  Someone else installed ubuntu for me and I am not sure how to do it once I get beyond the installation step.
[07:09] <kirk_> Heroin see screen resolution
[07:09] <yggdrasil_> this is pretty awesome i got this old mac clone .. like 180 mhz or so and put ubuntu on it with webmin.
[07:09] <tristan> Heroin, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:09] <indo> thanks gnomefreak
[07:10] <Heroin> k trist
[07:10] <Badm4n> how to make my ubuntu 5.10 box secure from ddos or something like that ?
[07:10] <tristan> x_or, system > preferences > screen resoultions
[07:10] <kirk_> system preferences screen resolution
[07:10] <Heroin> it already is
[07:10] <Heroin> badman it already is
[07:10] <Afief> ompaul: but why on earth? connecting two compouters should be easy under both windows and linux AFAIK
[07:10] <vash> how do i bring up a list of drives to mount
[07:10] <tristan> how do I get my svideo out to go to my tv from my geforce 5200
[07:11] <kirk_> Heroin did it work?
[07:11] <_jason> tristan, have you tried searching the forums?  I seem to recall a how-to for that
[07:11] <Heroin> kirk its still install.. :P but ill do it once done
[07:11] <Heroin> takes for ever >.>
[07:11] <kirk_> ok good luck
[07:11] <Heroin> thank you :)
[07:11] <tristan> _jason, I'm searching the wiki
[07:12] <tkroo> pico launches nano? they basically the same thing?
[07:12] <tristan> _jack, if you recall where the howto is I'd appreciate it
[07:12] <x_or> tristan, kirk_:  Well, when I got there I only see one screen size:  640x480.  I assume I need to configure X to use different ones, no?
[07:12] <tristan> _jason, that is
[07:12] <Heroin> goddamn i think some on set us op the bom
[07:12] <_jason> tristan, I found the howto, there are a few other threads discussing it as well: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23628&highlight=s-video+geforce
[07:12] <tristan> yes, x_or
[07:12] <Heroin> when i asked a desktop.. he told me try ubuntu_desktop
[07:12] <Heroin> which is all the apps and stuff
[07:12] <Heroin> goddamn >.>
[07:12] <kirk_> mine has several with no config... I dont know
[07:13] <x_or> tristan:  Any idea how I do that?
[07:13] <Heroin> how to start ubuntu desktop from terminal
[07:13] <ashyg> startx
[07:13] <kirk_> x or  does the dropdown menu give you any other choices?
[07:13] <Heroin> nice
[07:14] <ompaul> Afief, I said enjoy - I would go the 100 yard dash to install that driver, and I hope your windows firewall does not do something bad (tm) on trying to do normal linux internet stuff
[07:14] <trappist> ls
[07:14] <Mauriziogato> mhh.... Aleko?
[07:14] <trappist> oops
[07:14] <x_or> kirk_: No, no other choices.
[07:14] <kirk_> x or ??curious
[07:14] <x_or> I assume that I should have selected other choices when installation was performed, by I am past this step now and not sure what utility I can use now.
[07:14] <vash> what is the default SU password
[07:15] <_jason> ubotu, tell vash about sudo
[07:15] <knoppix> is there a program for linux that is similar to getright
[07:15] <Mauriziogato> Ciao a tutti, c' ness1 di Bari ke potrebbe darmi una mano?
[07:15] <_jason> !it
[07:15] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:15] <Mauriziogato> k, grazie a te
[07:15] <fr0xx> how can I change my graphic driver to VESA?
[07:15] <j3di> where can i change the bash umask?
[07:16] <_jason> fr0xx, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver to vesa in the video card section
[07:16] <ompaul> knoppix I do not know anything about windows or macs what does this getright do?
[07:16] <ompaul> ohh
[07:16] <Heroin> ompaul i would use google
[07:16] <Clkio> download manager
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> j3di,  the users .bashrc or .bash_profile or /etc/profile
[07:17] <Clkio> extremely irrelevant but could someone please dcc send me http://download.skype.com/SkypeSetup.exe?200069.exe , for some reason i get a Network Error (tcp_error) ; guess my isp blocked it!!
[07:17] <ompaul> Heroin, s/he came in asking a quesiton about a function, if they explained the function to me I would get them such a program ( I am a little more resourseful than google :))
[07:17] <Clkio> ompaul are u indexed
[07:18] <ompaul> Heroin, only because google is one of my resources
[07:18] <ompaul> Clkio, just how I like to be :)(
[07:18] <_jason> Clkio, sure let me download it
[07:18] <Clkio> thanks jason
[07:18] <x_or> tristan, kirk_:  This link helped https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto?highlight=%28resolution%29
[07:18] <Heroin> ah thats treu
[07:18] <Heroin> well for small things like what is? i tend to use google
[07:18] <x_or> tristan, kirk_:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:18] <vash> when i mount my drives, how do i access them, they are not showing up on desktop or anything
[07:19] <Heroin> how works.. is more mIRC things
[07:19] <x_or> That did it.
[07:19] <Clkio> anyone knows why ubuntu is so popular now? i dissapeared from linux scene for few months and now everywhere i look i see ubuntu
[07:19] <gnomefreak> Clkio, bleeding edge
[07:19] <gnomefreak> easy to use
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> Clkio,  its very well done.
[07:19] <_jason> Clkio, did you get a dcc request?
[07:19] <Clkio> jason again sorry
[07:19] <fr0xx> _jason, I should change:
[07:19] <fr0xx> Section "Device"
[07:19] <fr0xx>         Identifier      "Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Devi$        Driver          "i810"
[07:19] <fr0xx>         BusID           "PCI:0:2:0"
[07:19] <Clkio> mirc blocked it
[07:19] <ompaul> Clkio, hey you are even here :) so the same think happened elsewhere
[07:20] <fr0xx> "i810" to "vesa"
[07:20] <fr0xx> ?
[07:20] <gnomefreak> fr0xx, please use pastebin to paste dont paste in room
[07:20] <fr0xx> Sorry.
[07:20] <baluba> hi
[07:20] <vash> Ok, i mounted my ntfs dir to /mnt/windows, now how do i access this
[07:20] <gnomefreak> brb
[07:20] <Clkio> so ubuntu falls in same league as mandrake or the tough ones like gentoo?
[07:20] <ompaul> fr0xx, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and then when you put your data there you give the url with your question and people can see stuff
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> cd /mnt/whatever
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> same as ya access any other dir.
[07:20] <napsy> hi. how could I scale image size of multiple images at once?
[07:20] <fr0xx> _jason, I shall change the "i810" with "vesa"
[07:20] <Afief> when running route -n i get an empty list, even though i enabled the network connection
[07:20] <korptix> Time: Jan 14 05:01:38 Source: 213.39.***.** Destination: 58.105.142.*** In IF: eth1 Out IF:  Port: 10453 Length: 60 ToS: 0x00 Protocol: TCP Service: Unknown
[07:20] <korptix> theres about 200 ips connecting to that port
[07:21] <_jason> fr0xx, that seems right, be sure to backit up anyway
[07:21] <fr0xx> Thanks
[07:21] <vash> I got a permission denied on trying to access it
[07:21] <ompaul> Clkio, it works and has fantastic packaging that makes it different to both of those
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[07:21] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[07:21] <korptix> !port
[07:21] <ubotu> korptix: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[07:21] <Clkio> ompaul packaging as in rpm-like thing or installer?
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> vash,  mount it with the right options then. depending on your needs.
[07:21] <korptix> k.
[07:22] <vash> i just want to read from the drive, how would I done this
[07:22] <ompaul> Clkio, rpm is not used it is apt based - and installer is okay and text based at the moment
[07:22] <vash> i mounted as mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -r
[07:22] <_jason> vash, don't user enter as punctuation cus then it's hard dor us to follow you with all the other chatter.  If you want everyone to have access use the umask=0222 option
[07:22] <baluba> after upgrading to breezy (some times ago) i found my shortcuts in gnome all messed-up. most of the command show an hexadecimal value instead of an understandable key-stroke. does anyone experience the same? here's a screenshot: http://internet-milano.it/antonio/immagini/Schermata.png
[07:22] <ompaul> Clkio, you can install very fast after I think it is four entries
[07:23] <_jason> vash, syntax would be '-o umask=0222' I believe
[07:23] <vash> add that onto what i typed?
[07:24] <ompaul> Clkio, or you can make it as complex as you want - it is based on debian, and here is some fun do this >>/msg ubotu sudo<< cos you just don't need root to do anything within ubuntu
[07:24] <fr0x> ok, I restarted X successfully
[07:24] <Clkio> thanks jason i got it :)
[07:24] <cranberries> a f
[07:24] <_jason> vash, sure, you can drop the -r now
[07:24] <vash> nice it worked
[07:24] <vash> Thank you
[07:25] <_jason> clast, vash: yw
[07:25] <vash> now, how do i make icons on my desktop lol, i have none ;x
[07:25] <clast> what?
[07:25] <_jason> vash, eww if you really want them you can right click on the desktop and add launcher or just drag stuff onto your desktop
[07:25] <dsonc> hello everybod!!! i need the development package of python2.4-gtk2, someone knows where can get?
[07:26] <Badm4n> how to make my ubuntu 5.10 box secure from ddos or something like that ?
[07:26] <sorush20> guys booting from the new kernel version
[07:26] <vash> well, i wanna use the file browser to just navigate through the windows mount
[07:26] <dsonc> hey Dr_Willis! My  regards!
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> Badm4n,  it pretty much is.
[07:26] <sorush20> How do I find out what kernel versions do I have from busy box?
[07:26] <vash> how can i make an icon, or access it
[07:26] <Badm4n> Dr_Willis ?
[07:26] <ompaul> dsonc, just install it, it is there
[07:27] <_jason> dsonc, will python-gtk2-dev work?
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> Badm4n,  there may be a few things ya can do to lock things down more.. but proberly nothing  major. its allready decently well secured
[07:27] <dsonc> sorry ompaul, but in my package manager i can't  find, ,what is the carrect name of this package ???
[07:27] <ompaul> dsonc, >>sudo apt-get install python2.4-gtk2<< on the command line or use synaptic this is in version 5.10
[07:27] <sorush20> how do i scroll up in the terminal in recovery mode?
[07:28] <Badm4n> i c
[07:28] <Badm4n> thx yo
[07:28] <_jason> vash, you can go to /mnt/windows through nautilus and if you wish you can create a launcher for that on the desktop
[07:29] <ompaul> sorsis, if scroll lock and shift page up or cursor up does not work you dont
[07:29] <ompaul> sorush, if scroll lock and shift page up or cursor up does not work you dont
[07:30] <Jan_Goofy> Hi
[07:30] <dsonc> ompaul, the result: E: Couldn't find package python2.4-gtk2-dev
[07:30] <_Dvalin> Hi Jan_Goofy
[07:30] <bshumate> dsonc: python-gtk2-dev is what you need, that is for Python 2.4
[07:31] <Jan_Goofy> anyone tried installing a Vibra16 (SB I asume) soundcard on ubuntu? and got it to work? :)
[07:32] <ompaul> dsonc, you are running 5.10 yes?
[07:33] <vash> ;/ how do i erase a file from terminal
[07:33] <dsonc> ompaul: yes,  5.10...
[07:33] <_jason> vash, rm
[07:33] <_jason> ubotu, tell vash about cli
[07:33] <vash> thanks =\
[07:33] <sorush20> why isn't ubuntu dapper kernel 2.6.15 detecting hda1?
[07:33] <ompaul> !dapper
[07:33] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[07:34] <ompaul> sorush20, it may be broken
[07:34] <gnomefreak> may?
[07:34] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:34] <dsonc> bshumate: this package already exists in my system, very strange
[07:34] <Bizzeh-Drunkish> whats with the dodgy version numbers in ubuntu
[07:34] <sorush20> ompaul: well is there a way that I can downgrade?
[07:34] <Scorpio> Anybody knows about hardware support list in Ubuntu Linux?
[07:34] <gnomefreak> dodgy?
[07:34] <_jason> Bizzeh-Drunkish, year.month
[07:34] <Bizzeh-Drunkish> ahh
[07:34] <gnomefreak> !hardware
[07:34] <ubotu> [hardware]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> Bizzeh-Drunkish,  They are the date of the release
[07:35] <vash> It wont let me delete /mnt/windows ;/
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> sort of useless :P but heck why not
[07:35] <Bizzeh-Drunkish> i didnt get that :)
[07:35] <sorush20> is anyone here using dapper right now with the 2.6.15 kernel/
[07:35] <Scorpio> thanks
[07:35] <_jason> vash, did you unmount first?
[07:35] <Bizzeh-Drunkish> i thought it was like major.minor
[07:35] <vash> yea, there unmounted
[07:35] <Bizzeh-Drunkish> but with minor being a random 0 - 9
[07:35] <gnomefreak> 5.10 =2005/oct
[07:35] <Bizzeh-Drunkish> yes
[07:35] <Bizzeh-Drunkish> i get it now :)
[07:35] <_jason> vash, to delete an empty directory: rmdir /mnt/windows
[07:35] <ompaul> dsonc, >> sudo apt-get update << then do >>sudo apt-get reinstall python2.4-gtk2<< that may help
[07:36] <Bizzeh-Drunkish> deltree /
[07:36] <Bizzeh-Drunkish> :)
[07:36] <ompaul> sorush20, those who can hack the source
[07:36] <vash> yay thank you
[07:36] <dsonc> bshumate: i'm trying to build garnome2.13.4 and, ,when trying to build avahi i receive this message: configure: error: Could not find Python module gtk
[07:37] <ompaul> sorush20, using a breezy live CD copy your important data to a CDROM or other hard drive or some such and reinstall
[07:37] <sorush20> ompaul: I am running the older version of the kernel..
[07:38] <ompaul> sorush20, I will not be touching dapper until mid march myself
[07:38] <sorush20> will easy breezy be added to the installation process anytimg soon
[07:38] <dsonc> to ompual and bshuhmate: thanks , i need to shutodwn my machine, i'll back later. Bye
[07:38] <vash> why in media does my cd rom show twice
[07:38] <sorush20> ompaul: how comes osdirectory has screen shots?
[07:38] <thegladiator> testing versions normally become stable a month or so before ?
[07:39] <gnomefreak> good idea pmpaul
[07:39] <gnomefreak> om*
[07:39] <ompaul> sorush20, today it works tomorrow it fails that is the way of development
[07:39] <Aven> how do I edit the localhost and localdomain name?
[07:39] <sorush20> is there a way to recover deleted files from a ext3 files systems/
[07:39] <thegladiator> wud  the icial release occur before the april 20
[07:39] <ompaul> vash use fdisk
[07:39] <Aven> from the command line
[07:39] <bshumate> dsonc: you may need to specify the --with-lib= --with-inc= type stuff to force detection of the py-gtk2 libd...just an idea...
[07:39] <vash> Fdisk for what
[07:39] <ompaul> vash,  or system administrration disks
[07:40] <ompaul> vash, to delete that stuff after you umount it I think it might be windows
[07:40] <dsonc> bshumate: my man!!! :-P  i'll try it later! thanks
[07:40] <thegladiator> is there a utuilist to do a consistency check if ur hardisks ?
[07:40] <gverig> ~alternatives
[07:40] <bshumate> dsonc: good luck!
[07:40] <thegladiator> like the linux does a consistency check after 30 mountings
[07:41] <gnomefreak> ok someone please tell me something other than the broken packages other than the problems what is the facination that everyone has about dapper?
[07:41] <gverig> hmm... Anyway, is there a tutorial on alternatives? Something short? I want to add a group for Java 6...
[07:42] <ompaul> sorush20, if you have a working system you can try >>sudo apt-get install tct << however you need to insult  the destruction manual on its web site search for "the coroners toolkit"
[07:42] <thegladiator> can I paste a four line error that I get ?
[07:42] <thegladiator> I cant understand why I cant open .dat files
[07:42] <thegladiator> by double click
[07:43] <thegladiator> The filename "Avseq24.dat" indicates that this file is of type "MPEG video". The contents of the file indicate that the file is of type "Microsoft AVI video". If you open this file, the file might present a security risk to your system.
[07:43] <Aven> how do I edit the localhost and localdomain name? via terminal...
[07:43] <tkroo> this might be a silly question, but is there anything similar to Quicksilver for ubuntu?
[07:43] <sorush20> ompaul: that is just the point I have ndiswrapper dependencies which halt everything even loading the old kernel .. I keep getting the message that loadndiswrapper failed..
[07:43] <ompaul> tkroo, what does quicksilver do, then maybe someone can answer that question, so is there a program that does ......
[07:44] <tkroo> an app launcher that i can invoke with something like ctrl-space, then start typing the first few letters of an app name
[07:44] <Aven> no one knows?
[07:44] <thegladiator> ompaul, can you tell me why I get this error when I open a video file .dat ?
[07:44] <thegladiator> the one I pasted a efw lines aove
[07:45] <ompaul> sorush20, you choose dapper, I do not use it, I would think it was not smart to do so unless I had a spare machine for it, I have told you what to do to get back to a working system
[07:45] <Xenguy> Aven: hi...
[07:45] <_jason> thegladiator, that's not an error, read what it says
[07:45] <thegladiator> _jason, how can I get rid of that ?
[07:45] <_jason> thegladiator, try changing the extension to avi
[07:45] <Xenguy> can you clarify: what do you want to do?
[07:46] <tkroo> quicksilver does lots of things, but mostly i want an app launcher that i can invoke with a simple keycombo and then start typing what i'm looking for. perhaps this idea is silly if there is a different method of app launching/switching in linux. i'm a noob to this.
[07:46] <thegladiator> it disables me to open a dat file during a presentation etc.
[07:46] <MuStR> \=
[07:46] <MuStR> anyone around?
[07:46] <yaaar> MuStR: nope....you're the only one here.
[07:46] <_jason> MuStR, ask :)
[07:46] <Aven> Xenguy
[07:46] <MuStR> :p
[07:46] <Aven> the one that shows with aven@blahblah
[07:46] <Aven> the 'blahblah' :P
[07:47] <MuStR> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my iBook, and it's not recognizing the disc upon reboot
[07:47] <Aven> the hostname
[07:47] <xiaogil> WW2 used to work, but it doesn't anymore, can someone explain why, knowing that i have the following error msg: gilles@ubuntu:~$ java -jar ww2d-0.99.87/WW2D.jar
[07:47] <xiaogil> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: net/java/games/jogl/GLCanvas ?
[07:47] <Xenguy> Aven: hrm, you want to change the appearence of outgoing email for example?
[07:47] <_jason> Aven, man hostname
[07:47] <yaaar> MuStR: have you booted off of other CD's with that machine?
[07:48] <MuStR> yaaar, no I haven't
[07:48] <MuStR> crap, brb.
[07:48] <_jason> Aven, you can use system -> admin -> networking too
[07:48] <Xenguy> Aven: or possible what _jason said is what you want (just trying to get a clearer idea of why and what you want to edit)
[07:48] <Aven> ohh
[07:48] <Aven>  /etc/hostname apparently :P
[07:49] <_jason> Aven, be careful
[07:49] <Aven> I know :)
[07:49] <_jason> Aven, make sure you update /etc/hosts or you will lose sudo access
[07:49] <Xenguy> Aven: just backup the original file :-)
[07:49] <Aven> how do I copy a file?
[07:49] <Aven> via terminal :P
[07:49] <_jason> Aven, cp
[07:49] <_jason> ubotu, tell Aven about cli
[07:50] <feistel> hi
[07:50] <Afief> ubotu, tell Afief about cli
[07:50] <Xenguy> _jason: e.g. -> cp /etc/hostname /etc/hostname.1st
[07:50] <feistel> anyone know a open source graphic distribution installer ?
[07:50] <zelevw> Hi...has anyone gotten tpctl to work? im running ubuntu 5.10 and would like the svideo out to work...i installed the thinkpad utils, etc and get this message: tpctl: Neither /dev/thinkpad/thinkpad nor /dev/thinkpad exists. Exiting. thanks in advance
[07:51] <bryanl> zelevw, are the thinkpad modules compiled?
[07:51] <zelevw> bryanl: how can i check?
[07:51] <bryanl> hmm
[07:51] <zelevw> i installed from synaptic
[07:51] <bryanl> i bet the default ubunut kernel doesn't have thinkpad support.  you may have to recompile
[07:51] <Aven> alright
[07:51] <vash> what was the command to mount windows? i lost it ;-;
[07:52] <zelevw> bryanl: thanks
[07:52] <Aven> is it safe to edit the 'localhost.localdomain'? and use a domain that's pointed to my IP?
[07:52] <_jason> vash, the exrtra option was '-o umask=0222'
[07:52] <vash> Thanks
[07:53] <vash> do you know what line i have to add to fstab for auto mounting?
[07:53] <_jason> ubotu, tell vash about ntfs
[07:53] <_jason> vash, you can find the command towards the bottom of that link
[07:53] <dsonc> ompaul: didn't worked
[07:53] <Xenguy> Aven: what file?  /etc/hosts ?
[07:53] <Aven> yes
[07:54] <dsonc> i'm very sad :^(
[07:54] <eSPete> how do i boot the sound in mplayer. all the canales are on max, so are mplayer and i'm using a headset so i dont have an amplifier
[07:54] <Aven> also, would I need to reboot after I edit /etc/hostname ? for changes to take effect...
[07:54] <Xenguy> Aven: if you have no GUI, then yes you can do this from the command-line, but you have to get the correct syntax obviously for it to work...
[07:55] <_jason> Aven, update /etc/hosts with your new hostname
[07:55] <malefestra> i'm trying to get a script to run at startup to bring up my wireless card and start dhclient, so I added it to /etc/initd and /etc/rc5.d, but i'm getting the same message on boot that i would get if i tried to run it as a non-root user...is there a way to automatically make it run as root, or to build my root password into the script itself?
[07:55] <Aven> what's GUI? :P
[07:55] <Xenguy> Aven: I don't recall the syntax offhand
[07:55] <CactusWiZaRd> why Ubuntu doesn't ask root password when installing?
[07:55] <_jason> ubotu, tell CactusWiZaRd about root
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> CactusWiZaRd,  thats by design.
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:55] <CactusWiZaRd> oh
[07:55] <_jason> eSPete, what do you mean by booting sound? turning it off?
[07:55] <Xenguy> Aven: Graphical User Interface (icons, stuff you can click)
[07:55] <mae> sed 's/\&[a-zA-Z0-9_] +=/something/g' # whats wrong with this sed command? i want to match a string like '&test_var='
[07:56] <Aven> ah
[07:56] <Aven> I do have GUI, yeah
[07:56] <Xenguy> Aven: as opposed to CLI (command-line interface)
[07:56] <CactusWiZaRd> i haven't had any former experiences of Debian based distros, so... my former distro was Fedora Core 4 :D
[07:56] <Xenguy> Aven: that will be easier then in this case...
[07:56] <Aven> brb
[07:56] <_jason> mae, get rid of the = to see if it is the cause
[07:57] <malefestra> CactusWiZaRd - I use(d) FC4 too.
[07:57] <AskHL> Hello, could someone explain how I could find out what IP address I have? That would be most handy
[07:57] <ompaul> dsonc, install this and see where it gets you python-gtk2-dev
[07:57] <gnomefreak> AskHL, ifconfig
[07:57] <ompaul> AskHL, ifconfig
[07:57] <AskHL> Thanks to both of you!
[07:58] <ltibor65> Hi Guys! How can I incrase the measure of an ext3 partition?
[07:58] <toggleswitch> Yo from South Africa
[07:58] <ompaul> AskHL, np
[07:58] <toggleswitch> I am surfing with the LIVE ubuntu!
[07:58] <ompaul> toggleswitch, kewl
[07:59] <dsonc> ompaul: already installed   (it's hard to be happy )
[07:59] <toggleswitch> Just got my cd's in the post:-)
[07:59] <CactusWiZaRd> toggleswitch, nice, but now i g2g, c u guys later, though
[07:59] <bronson> ltibor65, you mean you want to resize the partition?
[07:59] <linuxboyfriend> hi all
[07:59] <bronson> Easy, just fire up a recent Ubuntu install disk.
[08:00] <ompaul> dsonc, your looking for a program that lives outside the ubuntu tree, what function will it perform that is not in ubuntu today?
[08:00] <bronson> It will resize partitions too.
[08:00] <bronson> ltibor65, or, use gparted.
[08:00] <linuxboyfriend> i was trying to install my modem in ubuntu and during make process i get the error "please install the kernel source", how can i install kernel source?
[08:01] <bestadvocate> linuxboyfriend: use synaptic to install it, it should be a package
[08:02] <bestadvocate> linuxboyfriend: the package is linux-source-(whatever number kernel you have installed)
[08:02] <OneSeventeen> I can't attach to the unsecured network.
[08:02] <linuxboyfriend> bestadvocate: hmm, i thought i name maybe kernel-source-x
[08:03] <OneSeventeen> I see "Received: 25 packets sent: 0 packets"
[08:03] <OneSeventeen> all WEP encrypted wireless networks work fine.
[08:03] <OneSeventeen> Any tips?
[08:03] <bestadvocate> linuxboyfriend, i think your right
[08:03] <bestadvocate> i just did a cursury search myself
[08:03] <ltibor65> bronson, i have gparted, but don't now how to use for resize.
[08:03] <robotgeek> OneSeventeen: weird, maybe they have mac address filtering :)
[08:03] <OneSeventeen> (I removed wireless-key from /etc/network/interfaces still no dice)
[08:04] <OneSeventeen> hmmm, lemme check.
[08:04] <bronson> ltibor65, is the partition you want to resize on your boot disk?
[08:04] <Pavix> Hey, I'm getting this error during compile. What package do I need to add
[08:04] <Pavix> checking for main in -lpcap... no
[08:04] <Pavix> configure: error: see the INSTALL doc for more info
[08:04] <ltibor65> Yes,
[08:04] <robotgeek> OneSeventeen: might i suggest network-manager, very slick
[08:04] <Seveas> !tell pavix about compiling
[08:04] <OneSeventeen> nope, they claim they no longer use mac filtering.
[08:05] <OneSeventeen> And I've never been able to get onto unsecured wireless, even at home, where my mac address is in the filter list.
[08:05] <bestadvocate> hey guys, i have tried gnome-torrent and bittornado, and nether of them will download bittorent files that my laptop running a less interesting operating system start up right away.  Any ideas on why the programs arnt working?
[08:05] <AskHL> One other question: If I want to do some simple file sharing with another ubuntu machine (or any other type for that matter), should I use scp or samba or anything else? Samba seems to be primarily for windows networks.
[08:05] <bronson> ltibor65, well, then gparted won't be so useful.
[08:06] <AskHL> The tutorial is somewhat brief on that matter (or maybe I missed something)
[08:06] <robotgeek> OneSeventeen: weird
[08:06] <OneSeventeen> robotgeek: yeah, I'm thinking maybe a driver issue?  Yet WEP secured works very quickly...
[08:06] <bronson> ltibor65, boot using a livecd or the Ubuntu installer.
[08:06] <Seveas> AskHL, sshfs :)
[08:06] <bronson> ltibor65, tools aren't too happy about modifying a partition currently in use.
[08:06] <AskHL> I'll look that up, then. Thank you!
[08:06] <bestadvocate> linuxboyfriend: i figured out the diffrence between those two packages
[08:06] <OneSeventeen> ah well, looks like it's just one of those weird things.  Maybe the next driver update will fix it and I can finally uninstall windows
[08:07] <Robokop> question when i run apt-get it seems to do nothing
[08:07] <Robokop> what should i do
[08:07] <Seveas> Robokop, put the command you ran and its output on the pastebin
[08:08] <linuxboyfriend> bestadvocate: what differenc?
[08:09] <bestadvocate> linuxboyfriend: kernel-source-x is with Debian patches,  linux-source-x is the same thing but with Ubuntu specific patches (aka what i think you need)
[08:10] <bestadvocate> linuxboyfriend: do bittorent files work for you?
[08:10] <linuxboyfriend> bestadvocate: by the way will u tell me what is the meaning of the wordk "aka" that u used :)
[08:10] <Robokop> seveas: done
[08:10] <joe-> hi, im having a very weirds issues with smbfs: i cannot view files in some folders: they are there when i check over ssh, but not via smbfs. ive tried varios combinations of chmod/chown too. what is going on? they simp;ly dont show up under smbfs
[08:10] <joe-> (ive enver had this problem before ubunutu)
[08:10] <linuxboyfriend> bestadvocate: actually i was installing my modem, so there is no question about internet
[08:10] <Pavix> Thanks Seveas, I found the package I was installing from source. Now how do I install a .deb file?
[08:10] <Seveas> Robokop, url :)
[08:11] <Seveas> !deb
[08:11] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[08:11] <Kovecses> dpkg -i
[08:11] <Robokop> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7101
[08:11] <Pavix> thanks
[08:12] <hawking> hi lowman62 :)
[08:13] <vash> Im having trouble loading the mp3 decoder thing
[08:13] <alexissoft> hi
[08:13] <Stc> hello, gparted resize ntfs part ? ubuntu live-cd ?;D
[08:14] <lsuactiafner> joe- : just for intrest sake do you have smbfs installed?
[08:14] <joe-> lsuactiafner, uh yeah i have the fs remotely mounted heh
[08:14] <lsuactiafner> joe- : and have you made any changes lately to the systems?
[08:14] <joe-> how else would i be able to see some files
[08:14] <joe-> no
[08:14] <cycom> is it possible to 'reset' gnome without removing everything and reinstaling?
[08:14] <lsuactiafner> maybe the files are inuse?
[08:15] <joe-> nope, these are my mp3s
[08:15] <cycom> as in to just get it back the way it was when I first installed my system?
[08:15] <joe-> and i want to load them into xmms on my other machine
[08:15] <Robokop> whois Seveas
[08:15] <joe-> as this machine has no soundcard
[08:15] <Seveas> Robokop, I am :)
[08:15] <debiandude> does ubuntu only have gnome??
[08:15] <Robokop> srry forgot the /
[08:15] <joe-> and the files show up just fine over ssh
[08:15] <debiandude> will i have to download kubuntu to get kde
[08:15] <Seveas> debiandude, no
[08:15] <_jason> debiandude, no, kde xfce other stuff
[08:15] <thegladiator> _jason, while using mplayer keys , at the end of the file if you press further , does the player quit ?
[08:15] <Seveas> debiandude, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:16] <Xenguy> debiandude: no, there is also KDE and XFCE4, and other window managers too
[08:16] <sampan> debiandude  nope.  sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop  gets you kde xubuntu-desktop xfce4
[08:16] <Seveas> Robokop, it's apt-get, not get-apt
[08:16] <_jason> thegladiator, yes, there is probably an option to make it repeat or just stop but I don't know it.  'man mplayer'
[08:16] <Robokop> thanks
[08:16] <thegladiator> debiandude, kubuntu-desktop if you want kde , xubuntu-dektop for xfce...
[08:16] <debiandude> well i mean off the cd without downloading
[08:16] <thegladiator> thanks _jason
[08:17] <debiandude> like out of box install will i have gnome
[08:17] <vash> why is it I cannot play a DVD lol
[08:17] <thegladiator> yes debiandude
[08:17] <Robokop> seveas it gives the same no output
[08:17] <thegladiator> you get gnome by default
[08:17] <vash> im getting could not read title information for dvd
[08:17] <_jason> ubotu, tell vash about dvd
[08:17] <debiandude> so to save some time i should just download kubuntu
[08:17] <vir_> debiandude,  ubuntu = gnome.... kubuntu = kde
[08:17] <sampan> debiandude  you can download the kubuntu iso and have kde out of the box yes
[08:17] <debiandude> thats what i was thinking
[08:18] <Robokop> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7104
[08:18] <thegladiator> debiandude, it depends on ur taste . not at all necessary to download kubuntu-desktop . if u like gnome stay with it
[08:18] <Kovecses> does anybody eles's ide light stay on constantly with ubuntu
[08:18] <Robokop> kovecses mine doesn't
[08:18] <robotgeek> debiandude: just install server , and then install kubuntu desktop
[08:18] <Kovecses> there was a bug in bugzilla about this but i cant find it now
[08:18] <Kovecses> its a sata drive
[08:19] <vir_> could someone possible help me with a sound issue? I've made a post on ubuntuforums already which has all my lspci and what have you
[08:19] <Robokop> kovecses then it isn't an ide light
[08:19] <lJlolel> does anyone know if pocket pcs work well with linux? i know palm pdas interact well
[08:20] <Kovecses> Robokop, yeah i know... but the light itself is still called an ide light (for some reason)
[08:20] <jariep1_> i left kubuntu runing unattended for over an hour and now the display shut down, how do i bring the display bag up?
[08:20] <jariep1_> back up
[08:20] <joe-> so theres no explanatin for why some files shows and others dont in smbfs?
[08:21] <yggdrasil_> joe files or folder ?
[08:21] <Robokop> jariep1_ most of the times that is an hardware issue
[08:21] <joe-> yggdrasil, files
[08:21] <vir_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116470 <-- anychance anyone could help me with this?
[08:22] <yggdrasil_> joe- hmm
[08:22] <yggdrasil_> strange
[08:22] <jariep1_> Robokop, i got it back up after shutting off display
[08:22] <yggdrasil_> joe- are you looking at it from terminal ?
[08:23] <joe-> yggdrasil, yes(files show over ssh), they do not show in local terminal or a gtkfile list window
[08:23] <eSPete> _jason, it should have saied boost = increase
[08:24] <yggdrasil_> joe- very strange inded then
[08:24] <_jason> eSPete, sorry I forgot exactly what you were asking?
[08:24] <joe-> yggdrasil, ive shared me homedir, and mounted it to /mnt .. now when i access ~mp3 everything seems fine, until i go thru the subfolders, where some will have files and others not (but all folder REALLY have files)
[08:24] <yggdrasil_> joe- same user as ssh ?
[08:24] <joe-> yes
[08:24] <yggdrasil_> bash on both ?
[08:24] <joe-> yeah
[08:25] <yggdrasil_> got me
[08:25] <eSPete> _jason, to increse sound in a movie
[08:25] <thegladiator> in the terminal can I go down a single directory down ?
[08:25] <_jason> eSPete, 9,0 or /,*
[08:25] <joe-> whats the unstable/testing archive for apt-get? maybe upgrading smbfs/samba will fix it
[08:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> thegladiator: 'cd ../' ?
[08:25] <thegladiator> thank you
[08:25] <Kovecses> damn .... i cant find that bug
[08:25] <ompaul> thegladiator, you can go anywhere cd Desktop or cd ../
[08:25] <Kovecses> i know it was there
[08:25] <C-O-L-T> can I run a kind of ubuntu linux on a Pentium I with 800 MB hard drive, 32 mb ram? I basically need open office, mp3 playing????
[08:26] <eSPete> _jason, allready done that and all channales are on max
[08:26] <thegladiator> "cd../" ?
[08:26] <eSPete> and whne listing to mp3s they are lound enouth
[08:26] <thegladiator> oh the space
[08:26] <PuMpErNiCkLe> thegladiator: yeah :D
[08:26] <thegladiator> thank you , yes u r correct
[08:26] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, openoffice with 32 megs of ram! .... aint gonna happen
[08:26] <_jason> eSPete, man mplayer, then: /-softvol-max
[08:26] <lJlolel> thegladiator, you can jsut type "cd .."
[08:27] <thegladiator> i see i was trying without space
[08:27] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, plus you dont have enough hd space either
[08:27] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: or a kind of office that is capable for opening and making doc formats but on the other hand it is not too old
[08:27] <vash> im trying to install the dvd reader software, and its giving me an error of /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh: line 39: dpkg-source: command not found
[08:27] <_jason> eSPete, I haven't used that but it may be what you are looking for.  If it is not you may want to try in #mplayer
[08:27] <C-O-L-T> Kocsecs: I have a quite good pc just I have an older one and I would like to equip for basic use
[08:28] <C-O-L-T> Kocsecs: but with modern operating system
[08:28] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, well ok try this.... do a ubuntu server install (so it just installs the base system) then apt-get xorg and fluxbox... then use abiword
[08:28] <vash> Jason are you able to tell me what to do on this one?
[08:29] <redguy> C-O-L-T: or try Vector linux
[08:29] <C-O-L-T> Kovecsecs: but it is no more than 500 mb?
[08:29] <lJlolel> Kovecses, good idea
[08:29] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, try damn small linux or puppy linux too
[08:29] <vir_> Kovecses: what about xubuntu?
[08:29] <MuStR> blah
[08:29] <MuStR> back
[08:29] <C-O-L-T> Yeah can I install xubuntu?
[08:29] <MuStR> so um, anyone know how to boot Ubuntu from an ibook?
[08:29] <MuStR> *on an
[08:29] <katie_> how do I install bittornado, i mean i did sudo apt-get install bittornado but how do i run it
[08:30] <Kovecses> with 32 megs of ram and only 800 megs.... you could try
[08:30] <MuStR> katie_: bittornado in console?
[08:30] <Heroin> how do i install apache?
[08:30] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, I think damn small linux is your best bet
[08:30] <MuStR> ahh I need help!
[08:30] <katie_> nope
[08:30] <C-O-L-T> Kovecsecs: it's site?
[08:30] <katie_> bash: bittornado: command not found
[08:30] <Heroin> apt-get?
[08:31] <Heroin> how do i get apache via apt-get?
[08:31] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, www.damnsmalllinux.org
[08:31] <FarrisG> I've got about 400GB of data I need to migrate at a particular time. What would be the best way to minimize downtime? I'd like to create a copy of all the data while it's still live (hosts mount it via NFS), then during a maintenance window turn off NFS so nobody can access it, then just do an incremental copy of the changes. What's the quickest/best way to do this?
[08:31] <lJlolel> Heroin, apt-cache search apache
[08:31] <MuStR> katie_: try typing "bitt" in the console and pressing tab to see what comes up
[08:31] <lJlolel> Heroin, i think it's apache2
[08:31] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, its a very cool up to date OS that is designed for harware like yours
[08:31] <katie_> nada
[08:31] <trappist> FarrisG: look into rsync
[08:31] <MuStR> anyone know how to install Ubuntu on a mac? I need helppppppp
[08:31] <katie_> bitmap, with one t, but nothing with 2
[08:32] <lJlolel> MuStR, It's not booting from the cd?
[08:32] <thegladiator> !mac
[08:32] <ubotu> thegladiator: What?
[08:32] <Robokop> when i type sudo and than any command it doesn't do anything
[08:32] <MuStR> lJlolel: exactly
[08:32] <trappist> FarrisG: once the initial sync is done, rsync can sync up again by only transmitting compressed diffs of what's changed
[08:32] <lJlolel> has anyone used a pocketpc with linux? do they interact well?
[08:33] <katie_> bittornado is already the newest version < just making sure i had installed it correctly and i have
[08:33] <Heroin> when i do aapt-get install apache2 it bitches about my E:/
[08:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MuStR: Do you have an old-world mac?  Ubuntu won't work with old-world macs, last time I checked.
[08:33] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: It does not have anything. I need a bigger distro of 400 mb
[08:33] <C-O-L-T> not a 50 mb distro
[08:33] <MuStR> PuMpErNiCkLe: it's a relatively new iBook G4
[08:33] <MuStR> so, no
[08:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MuStR: Okay, that's not it, then.
[08:33] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, it has a package manager to get what you need
[08:33] <Heroin> how do i get packages from the ubuntu packages sites?
[08:34] <MuStR> PuMpErNiCkLe: when I reboot the machine is not recognizing the cd or something
[08:34] <Robokop> Heroin try sudo apt-get install apache2
[08:34] <joe-> heh, nothng works for me today. i installed zeroconf and after installing the hostname resolving for zeroconf doesnt work, and yes ive checked the firewll(there is none) whats up with that? i followed the forum post to the t
[08:34] <Tacobarry> tem algum brasileiro por ai?
[08:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MuStR: And you're holding down the 'c' key when it reboots, right? ;)
[08:34] <MuStR> PuMpErNiCkLe: nope.
[08:34] <vbgunz> besides evolution or sunbird... does anyone know of a standalone calendar application that is not in alpha nor is part of a bigger application? Hopefully something that truly stands alone would be great... Also, it must be able to set task and events.... Thanks!
[08:34] <MuStR> PuMpErNiCkLe: brb trying that, thank you.
[08:34] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses Ok I will try it
[08:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MuStR: k :)
[08:34] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, what apps do you nead?
[08:34] <z0rz_> Anyone else having problems with Ubuntu breezy badger "disconnecting" itself from my network... It stills shows up on my network switch as connected.. but I can't ping from or to it... I simply unplug the network cable and plug it back in.. and it works fine
[08:35] <z0rz_> no config necessary.. is there a fix for this?
[08:35] <Robokop> sudo seems to doesn't work for me, what should i do now
[08:35] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: I need an office suite, abiword or somthing, mp3 playing and that is enough, maybe a krusader
[08:35] <Heroin> thx
[08:35] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: Or a midnight commander
[08:35] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, all that will be very easy to get with Damn small
[08:36] <MuStR> wooooooooooooot
[08:36] <MuStR> PuMpErNiCkLe: thank you sir :] 
[08:36] <Tacobarry> what is the best distribuicion?
[08:36] <yggdrasil_> whats a good app for ubuntu and peer to peer shareing?
[08:36] <Seveas> Tacobarry, Ubuntu of course
[08:36] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: I hope that I can boot it with floppy disk
[08:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> MuStR: You're welcome.  Enjoy! :)
[08:36] <Kovecses> Tacobarry, ubuntu
[08:36] <vbgunz> yggdrasil why not use gtk-gnutella?
[08:36] <Seveas> yggdrasil, gtk-gnutella, limewire, azureus, bittornado..
[08:36] <yggdrasil_> cool ill try gnutella
[08:36] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, not sure. ... but probably
[08:36] <Tacobarry> that is very big
[08:36] <Robokop> sudo seems to doesn't work for me, what should i do now? plz help me
[08:37] <thegladiator> is rox available for ubuntu ?
[08:37] <z0rz_> bah
[08:37] <Tacobarry> but is very big
[08:37] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: but this does not uses gnome right?
[08:37] <HappyFool> Robokop: what error do you get?
[08:37] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, gnome would never run on that hardware
[08:37] <katie_> please someone help
[08:37] <katie_> did i install wrongly?
[08:37] <Robokop> none but doesn't doe a thing
[08:37] <Robokop> -e
[08:37] <katie_> how can i find the bittornado program fiel
[08:38] <slew> when is dapper supposed to be released?
[08:38] <ompaul> !dapper
[08:38] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[08:38] <slew> thanks.
[08:38] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, it uses fluxbox   which seems weird at first but is very cool... and looks good too
[08:38] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: ok I understand. Is there other small distros which you know?
[08:38] <myriad> could anyone help me get mp3 working?   i've installed some packages, but something isn't right....
[08:38] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, puppy linux is good...
[08:38] <ompaul> katie_, applicaitons - internet - bittorrent
[08:38] <HappyFool> Robokop: so 'sudo ls /' doesn't output anything, and doesn't give any error messages ?
[08:38] <katie_> yes
[08:39] <katie_> but bittorrent doens't "do" port 6881
[08:39] <Chris_Tucker> im finally attempting a full switch to ubuntu this weekend :D my XP partition on my laptop is 35/80 gigs right now, today im gonna shrink it to at least 15 if i can.. i intend to use windows purely for gameing :)
[08:39] <vash> does Ubuntu come with debhelper, dpkg-dev and fakeroot
[08:39] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, http://www.goosee.com/puppy/
[08:39] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: puppy or damn small? decide
[08:39] <Robokop> HappyFool yes that is
[08:39] <yggdrasil_> c-o-l-t what uses flux ?
[08:39] <katie_> and there doesnt seem anyway to change that unless you know.
[08:39] <z0rz_> Anyone else having problems with Ubuntu breezy badger "disconnecting" itself from my network... It stills shows up on my network switch as connected.. but I can't ping from or to it... I simply unplug the network cable and plug it back in.. and it works fine .. anyone know how i can fix this?
[08:40] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, thats up to you... puppy is a little bigger comes with a desktop that resembles windows
[08:40] <Chris_Tucker> z0rz_, look for drivers on the net for your specific network card
[08:40] <joe-> zeroconf apparantly needs alot of conf
[08:40] <joe-> heh
[08:40] <z0rz_> Christ_Tucker Realtek 8139C
[08:40] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, but damn small has a bigger community and more packages (i think)
[08:40] <vash> where can i find those debian packages i need for this
[08:40] <z0rz_> I thought that was pretty default..
[08:40] <HappyFool> Robokop: that is very strange. i suggest checking that your user is a member of the 'admin' group ('groups' should tell you what groups your user is in); if you are in the admin group, check the /etc/sudoers file (you may need to boot into recovery mode to access this file).
[08:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> z0rz_: It is, I had one of those.
[08:41] <Chris_Tucker> z0rz_, then check the cables, swap them around if you have spares and see if its the cable itself
[08:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> z0rz_: It worked perfectly, though, so I can't really speak from experience.
[08:41] <z0rz_> So why am I having problems with it disconnecting very seldomly maybe once a wekk
[08:41] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: I decided at damn small cause it has an eye catchy design
[08:41] <Kovecses> Tacobarry, have you used linux before
[08:41] <z0rz_> I've heard of other people having this problem with Ubuntu
[08:41] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, thats the one I would use
[08:41] <Chris_Tucker> z0rz_, sounds like a dieing router/switch/hub or bad cable
[08:41] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, are you familiar with apt-get?
[08:42] <z0rz_> well I have tried different cables.. and different ports on the switch... so far no of the other computers have had this problem on that switch (I have several)
[08:42] <z0rz_> And it works fine on other OSs on the same PC
[08:43] <korptix> i get this error when tryin to install a app
[08:43] <korptix> checking for warnx... yes
[08:43] <korptix> checking for libpcap... no
[08:43] <korptix> configure: error: libpcap not found
[08:43] <korptix> korptix@korptix:~/Desktop/scanssh-2.1$
[08:43] <Chris_Tucker> z0rz_, im out of ideas then.. did you try reinstalling breezy? (eraseing the partition first)
[08:43] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: Anyway I don't use net connection at it. If it is a debian distro than I will transfer my packages to cd. I can install a program in ubuntu with sudo dpkg -i packagename
[08:43] <Seveas> korptix, don't paste...
[08:43] <HappyFool> tsk tsk. don't paste
[08:43] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: this will work in this small distro?
[08:43] <Chris_Tucker> !paste
[08:43] <ubotu> rumour has it, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[08:43] <Chris_Tucker> !pastebin
[08:43] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:43] <ion> hi guys my soundcard doesn't work so what I have to do ?
[08:43] <myriad> what is a good text editor to use for c programming?
[08:43] <korptix> next time ill  use pastebin
[08:43] <HappyFool> myriad: emacs!
[08:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> korptix: apt-get install libpcap0.8
[08:44] <ion> just stopped ....
[08:44] <korptix> ok
[08:44] <K_Dallas> myriad, hard to say, what do _you_ use?
[08:44] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, yes... damn small comes with abiword and xmms i think.. so you may not have to do much
[08:44] <joe-> heh nothing works in this os'
[08:44] <Seveas> myriad, vim
[08:44] <Kovecses> joe-, what do you mean
[08:44] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: ok I am downloading it
[08:44] <Chris_Tucker> joe-, how so?
[08:44] <vash> can anyone help me find these debian tools i need?
[08:44] <K_Dallas> yeah, vim vs emacas again ;)
[08:44] <joe-> Kovecses, smbfs is broken. zeroconf will not work.
[08:44] <myriad> i don't use anything, i'm new to linux
[08:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> vash: Sure, what tools?
[08:44] <Chris_Tucker> joe-, its mainly because hardware manufacturers are too lazy to make linux drivers for their stuff.
[08:45] <korptix> PuMpErNiCkL : libpcap0.8 is already the newest version.
[08:45] <korptix> 
[08:45] <vash> debhelper, dpkg-dev and fakeroot are what this program says it needs
[08:45] <tristanmike> can someone help me with my GPG errors
[08:45] <Chris_Tucker> its not the fault of the os.
[08:45] <Robokop> HappyFool i can't view my sudoers so i wil try it in safe mode
[08:45] <korptix> i already have it.
[08:45] <Seveas> joe-, zeroconf is bad..
[08:45] <K_Dallas> myriad, play a little while with vim then switch to emacs ir xemacs
[08:45] <Seveas> avahi is better
[08:45] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: help me I don't know what to download cause there are a lot of things at mirror pages
[08:45] <joe-> Chris_Tucker, uh that i mentioned had nothing todo with hardware manufactureres
[08:45] <ion> how can I fix my soundcard...???
[08:45] <Kovecses> joe-, smbfs works great here
[08:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> korptix: o_O
[08:45] <Seveas> !tell korptix about compiling
[08:45] <joe-> smbfs only shows the files it feels like showing
[08:45] <Seveas> korptix, read that wikipage carefully
[08:45] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, ok hold on
[08:45] <joe-> like in my mp3dir some folder show up empty
[08:45] <joe-> but in ssh to the same dir i see the files
[08:45] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: I mean a lot of damn small versions
[08:45] <korptix> Seveas : im not complieing yet im installing
[08:45] <myriad> i'm running vim, how do i do anything?
[08:46] <joe-> and 'zeroconf' is bad didnt really help me
[08:46] <Chris_Tucker> joe-, ever hear of something called lag? it happens on dialup. i said what i said before you mentioned it was all software, you just didnt see it till after.. sorry.
[08:46] <Heroin> i did apt-get apache2... but where did Fuck did it install 2?
[08:46] <korptix> !pastebin
[08:46] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:46] <ion> please anyone help me ....
[08:46] <Seveas> korptix, that message came from ./configure - ergo: you are compiling
[08:46] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, you want current.iso
[08:46] <HappyFool> myriad: try 'vimtutor' first (don't know if it's in the base install)
[08:46] <korptix> hmm k
[08:46] <Chris_Tucker> Heroin, updatedb && whereis apache2
[08:46] <jdier> is there a gui for mmv?
[08:46] <myriad> thanks happyfool
[08:46] <Chris_Tucker> Heroin, the www root dir is /var/www
[08:46] <HappyFool> myriad: also, gedit (the standard gnome text editor) has some basic support for programming, i think
[08:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> vash: It looks like they're all in the repository, so just do 'sudo apt-get install debhelper dpkg-dev fakeroot'
[08:47] <joe-> yeah well, this is the first os ive ever had ship with fucked up smbfs
[08:47] <joe-> ive ever used even
[08:47] <Heroin> ok thx
[08:47] <Heroin> and where can i configure apache?
[08:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> HappyFool: Yeah... syntax colouring, parenthesis matching, a couple other things.
[08:47] <Kovecses> joe-, then quit bitching and use another distro
[08:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> HappyFool: I use it for small stuff.
[08:47] <joe-> and following howtos and stuff on forums dont work either
[08:47] <bshumate> joe-: how about keeping your language professional in here, please?
[08:47] <joe-> Kovecses, im getting a mac
[08:47] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: I hope that I can format with it my windows 98 drive
[08:47] <Seveas> joe-, ranting in here will not help
[08:48] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, what do you mean?
[08:48] <vash> now i got further and it says no acceptable c compiler found in $path ._.
[08:48] <Seveas> !tell vash about compiling
[08:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> vash: 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[08:48] <joe-> i guess linux is a lost cause for another few years. enjoy.
[08:48] <HappyFool> *rolls eyes*
[08:48] <Kovecses> joe-, no
[08:48] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: I have windows 98 installed on this old computer and I want to format my hard drive, it will be possible through the dsl setup?
[08:48] <Kovecses> joe-, you just dont know what your doing
[08:49] <Seveas> Kovecses, he already left
[08:49] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, yes very easily
[08:49] <Seveas> Troll season is upon us
[08:49] <vash> hmmm, it just thought really hard and i returned no errors, lets see if its working
[08:49] <ion> Anyone could help me to fix my soundcard ???
[08:49] <Seveas> ion no
[08:49] <Seveas> not if you don't say what's wrong with it
[08:49] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, wait... you said you didnt have a cdrom drive on that comp?
[08:49] <vash> grr still the Could not read title information for dvd error
[08:49] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: I have cd rom drive
[08:50] <prem_> anybody tried ubuntu + helpexplorer on AMD64
[08:50] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: I have a 48x cd-rom drive
[08:50] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, on the old machine?
[08:50] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: yes
[08:50] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, but its not bootable?
[08:51] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: no the bios does not lets to boot, but I can boot dsl with floppy too, there are bootfloppydisks too
[08:51] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, sweet
[08:51] <ion> just stopped all the sounds gone ...when I try to run xmms for example I get error message.....
[08:52] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: this old pc is enough for office work and for mp3 listening, and for image viewing
[08:52] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, should be fine
[08:52] <vash> anyone have an idea for this Could not read title information for DVD
[08:52] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, cant put too many mp3's on an 800 meg drive though :)
[08:52] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: anyway I use an AMD DURON 1.8 with 256 ram, 40 gb hard drive but I am dreaming on a MACHINTOSH
[08:53] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: no you can not
[08:53] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: :)))) But now windows uses with office 80 percent of the hard drive
[08:53] <C-O-L-T> C-O-L-T: i can not even make docs
[08:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> C-O-L-T: Did you just highlight yourself? O_o
[08:54] <Heroin> how do i login as root?
[08:54] <Heroin> nvm
[08:54] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: yes I have seen :))))
[08:54] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: now I am in windows and here does not work the tab way
[08:54] <C-O-L-T> :))))
[08:55] <Kovecses> !w32codecs
[08:55] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[08:55] <thegladiator> C-O-L-T, so u dropped the idea of installing that s/w ? for maps ?
[08:55] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: What kind of floppy boot disk image should I donwload?
[08:55] <tkroo> !daapd
[08:55] <ubotu> I don't know, tkroo
[08:55] <tkroo> rats!
[08:55] <tkroo> !howl
[08:55] <ubotu> tkroo: No idea
[08:55] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, what kinds are there?
[08:55] <vash> im trying to install my 5 button microsoft mouse drivers, the guide on site says Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
[08:55] <vash> should i type like that, or use USB which is what it is
[08:56] <C-O-L-T> thegladiator: now it works, I have installed it, just I need a program that I can not get for Linux
[08:56] <thegladiator> glad to know that
[08:56] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, what program?
[08:56] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: I can not use the nick auto completing, I have to write your name every time manually
[08:56] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, that sucks
[08:57] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: A slide show creator, that creates beautifull slideshows from pictures with music and so on that I can write in dvd and especially in vcd or svcd
[08:58] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, you can do that in linux : )
[08:58] <tony_> hi! need some siple help i guess. Picking up a new rig come monday and im thinking of thinking of adding some screen goodies and shiny stuff. I know one can make it look good with some cpu/gpu power. What do i need to install? something in gnome? another desktop? where do i get started?
[08:59] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: how the hell?. I have been looking for a program for two weeks without success
[08:59] <Robokop> back again after reboot
[08:59] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: and I need a picture retouching program too
[08:59] <Kovecses> gimp
[08:59] <NeFaRi0uS> lowman62
[08:59] <seashell11> tony_ you could try the kde desktop
[08:59] <Seveas> tony_, gdesklets is eye candy for gnome, kde has something similar
[08:59] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tony_: If you want eye candy, you probably want KDE.
[09:00] <Seveas> and KDE is indeed eye candy central
[09:00] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: is not so professional like corel draw and arcsoft programs
[09:00] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: anyway it is not easy to use
[09:00] <tony_> i guess i will have to look in the forums for some stuff un kubuntu with eye candy
[09:01] <tony_> thanks!
[09:01] <seashell11> What is kde's equivalent for gdesklets? I have been using gdesklets under kubuntu but it seems to want to crash
[09:01] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, sounds like your stuck in 1998
[09:01] <tony_> C-O-L-T: gimp is good for playing with pics
[09:01] <myriad> ok, i just did "vim helloworld", typed my code, then did :wq to save the file.  i try "gcc helloworld" but i get "No such file: No such file or directory" for some reason
[09:02] <_jason> myriad, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:02] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: Corel Graphic Suite is a very professional graphic suite
[09:02] <_marius_> When I left klick on a .ISO file, I get the option: "write to disc" will this burn the image file on the CD that that it can be used for linux install or do I need an aditional program to do that?
[09:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> _marius_: Nope, that should be enough.
[09:03] <myriad> do i have to rename my file from "helloworld" to "helloworld.c" ??
[09:03] <lJlolel> i'm guessing nobody hasused pocketpcs with linux?
[09:03] <butcherbird> myriad: mv filename filename
[09:03] <butcherbird> myriad: ach sorry nm
[09:04] <Robokop> HappyFool still here?
[09:04] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: so a slideshow creator?
[09:04] <_jason> myriad, maybe, I think g++ has spit errors at me because of that
[09:05] <Ng> lJlolel: I have used an ipaq 4150 with linux
[09:06] <techre> so how do i rename helloworld to helloworld.c?
[09:06] <_jason> techre, mv helloworld helloworld.c
[09:06] <techre> thank you
[09:06] <Ng> lJlolel: I think the general concensus would be to wait for opensync, unfortunately. It is possible to get it just about going now, but it doesn't sync especially well
[09:06] <ion> I found the problem with  my soundcard.....
[09:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ion: What was it?
[09:07] <Kovecses> !libdvdcss
[09:07] <wdh> ion, pebkac?
[09:07] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, libdvdcss is DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[09:07] <Robokop> after i use apt-get i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7107
[09:07] <Kovecses> thank you Seveas
[09:07] <_jason> Robokop, kubuntu-desktop not kde
[09:08] <ion> one software which was's work well so I removed ...
[09:09] <Kovecses> Seveas, how do I add your repo?
[09:10] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses:????
[09:10] <ion> cheers see you later guys....
[09:10] <thegladiator> ciao
[09:10] <Kovecses> Seveas, those mirrors are not working for me
[09:10] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, what?
[09:10] <Robokop> _jason look at this part II https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE?highlight=%28(ii)%29
[09:11] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: that slideshow creator programme for linux, and a powerfull picture editing tool
[09:11] <_jason> Robokop, ah didn't realize, you need to enable universe
[09:11] <_jason> ubotu, tell Robokop about repos
[09:11] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, gimp and oo2
[09:12] <Robokop> _jason how do i enable universe
[09:12] <Kovecses> Seveas, help
[09:13] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: don't say to me that I can make with oo impress dvd and vcd presentations with sounds to watch in tv
[09:13] <_jason> Robokop, read the link ubotu sent you
[09:13] <Robokop> _jason sorry didn't saw the PM
[09:13] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, well you make the movies then encode them to dvd or vcd
[09:14] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: but they will become low quality presentations
[09:15] <gverig> where are groups defined in alternatives (what files)?
[09:15] <techre> ubotu, tell techre about repos
[09:15] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, why would you think that
[09:15] <xangel36> can some one tell me how to install aplications taht have a lock in there icon please?
[09:16] <Kovecses> xangel36, change permissions  on the file
[09:16] <xangel36> how?
[09:16] <Kovecses> xangel36, in gnome left click on it
[09:16] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: don't say to me that I can convert those really good presentations to vcd and play in a dvd player and watch on tv
[09:17] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, ive told you ten times that you can
[09:17] <xangel36> imm it dosnt work
[09:17] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, ive done it myself
[09:17] <Kovecses> xangel36, what doesnt work
[09:17] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: I am happier than ever
[09:18] <xangel36> i cant change the permision
[09:19] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: After downloading dsl I will go to linux and I will try it
[09:19] <Kovecses> xangel36, its probably not in your home dir right
[09:19] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: can I get that converting tool in repos
[09:19] <butcherbird> xangel36: i dont use gnome..but from terminal do 'sudo chown xangel36 /home/xangel36/Desktop/filename' if its on desktop
[09:20] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, i dont know if it is in the dsl repo... but its out there.. where there is a will there is a way.. I dont have time to go into detail ... but search the web
[09:20] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: but you have the tool don't you?
[09:20] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, i do yes
[09:21] <xangel36> right now im as root ive drag the aplications from the cd to my directory then i put dpkg -i lmms-common_0.0.9+0.1.0rc1-1_all.deb and it dosnt work
[09:21] <elvelind> hi. I'm having a problem with a computer. after switching to windows and restarting I now get grub error 17. is it possible to reinstall grub from the install cd?
[09:21] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: than you simply give me it's name
[09:21] <ideafix> can i upgrade ubuntu using apt-get like in debian ?
[09:21] <xangel36> yes
[09:21] <ideafix> i mean dist upgrade
[09:21] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, its a little more complicated than that
[09:21] <xangel36> apt-get update
[09:21] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, read up on vcdimager and tovid
[09:22] <ideafix> i mean dist upgrade
[09:22] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, alsao dvdauthor
[09:22] <mrmistik1> guys, are the ubuntu kernels come patched with fbsplash?
[09:22] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, oo2 has suppourt to wirte it to a movie file... but im not sure what type the result is
[09:23] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: I have oo in windows too I will look at it
[09:23] <techre> what's the difference between gnome and X?
[09:23] <Kovecses> lol
[09:23] <Kovecses> techre, your all confused
[09:23] <Fushi> lol
[09:23] <techre> you're right!
[09:23] <Fushi> google :)
[09:23] <techre> =p
[09:24] <Stormx2> techre: X is a windowing system, GNOME is a desktop environment
[09:24] <Kovecses> techre, gnome wouldnt run without X
[09:24] <techre> i see
[09:24] <Stormx2> techre: GNOME is built on X. X handles stuff which goes through your video card, GNOME is like an interface for it.
[09:24] <Kovecses> Stormx2, good explanation
[09:25] <mrmistik1> indeed
[09:25] <mrmistik1> That is exactly what X is
[09:25] <techre> so you can run other interfaces on top of X
[09:25] <Kovecses> bbl
[09:25] <lukus001> what is that mac emulation program called for linux?
[09:25] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: it can not expot or save as into any video format neither avi, nor vcd or anything
[09:25] <Kovecses> techre, yeah like kde xfce fluxbox etc.
[09:25] <mrmistik1> so can anyone tell me if ubuntu uses any type of bootsplash in thier kernels by default?
[09:26] <Kovecses> C-O-L-T, version 2.0?
[09:26] <techre> ubuntu uses gnome?
[09:26] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: what kind of floppy boot-image should I download
[09:26] <Fushi> by default yes
[09:26] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: yes oo 2.0.1
[09:26] <lukus001> techre, yes but kde is also installed
[09:26] <_marius_> damit, the this is gonna complicate things :P I have trouble enuagh with slackware itself, but now I have to use commands with english keyboard settings, and norwegain keyboard :/
[09:26] <Kovecses> kde is not installed
[09:26] <butcherbird> techre: ubuntu=gnome, kubuntu=kde, xubuntu=xfce
[09:26] <lukus001> so how do my kds based app load up?
[09:26] <ompaul> mrmistik1, I think it is all done in userspace don't commit me to it check out usplash
[09:26] <lukus001> kde*
[09:27] <Kovecses> lukus001, noob
[09:27] <techre> if i'm running ubuntu, i can still install kde?  i heard someone earlier say it's better visually or something
[09:27] <Seveas> ompaul, you're right :)
[09:27] <lukus001> why thank you kovecses
[09:27] <Kovecses> lukus001, you must have kdelibs installed... but you did that yourself
[09:27] <smarco> is anyone using beagle or documancer? i just would like to know if one of them works on ubuntu.
[09:27] <Seveas> techre, yes you can
[09:27] <purplefeltangel> does anyone know how easy it is to make your own keyboard layout?
[09:27] <lukus001> Kovecses No..
[09:27] <purplefeltangel> and how i can do that?
[09:27] <Seveas> smarco, beagle does, never heard of documancer
[09:27] <Kovecses> lukus001, yes
[09:28] <Kovecses> lukus001, ubuntu doesnt come with kde apps on it... you installed the kde apps right
[09:28] <smarco> Seveas, thx. documancer is a indexer btw. you can feed it lots of html files, infos, manpages etc.. and it will also display them (with the mozilla engine).
[09:28] <lukus001> Not unless it got added in addition to a kde based appt i clicked to install in synaptic, otherwise ive never installed kde
[09:28] <Kovecses> lukus001, there you go... noob
[09:28] <ompaul> Seveas, :) kewl
[09:28] <Fushi> lol
[09:28] <Kovecses> lukus001, lol j/k
[09:29] <lukus001> Kovecses :'(
[09:29] <lukus001> =P
[09:29] <Kovecses> lukus001, in order for a kde app to be installed ... kde libs must be installed also.. ubuntu doesnt have them by default so when you installed the kde program it grabbed the kdelibs asa dependency
[09:29] <lukus001> I could have sworn it was included as a compatability thing but oh well =P
[09:30] <lukus001> i see
[09:30] <lukus001> *sniff*
[09:30] <halibut> Does anyone use a split keyboard?
[09:30] <yatesy> split as in natural?
[09:31] <Robokop> halibut well once it dropped from my desk
[09:31] <halibut> yatesy, yeah, with a gap in the middle
[09:31] <yatesy> yea i've got one
[09:31] <lukus001> right, so does anyone know the name of the mac emulation software?
[09:31] <purplefeltangel> does anyone know how easy it is to make your own keyboard layout?
[09:31] <smarco> lukus001, google?
[09:32] <halibut> yatesy, do you find it awkward going from the split keyboard to a laptop keyboard, do you think the natural keyboard has advantages?
[09:32] <lukus001> smarco, google is evil !.. i thought it was in synaptic, thats all -
[09:32] <Robokop> purplefeltangel, yes just a bit playing with typ-ex and a black marker would do
[09:33] <purplefeltangel> robokop: what's Typ-ex?
[09:33] <K_Dallas> Q: how do i change hdparm so my CD and DVD drive gets udm support on boot up? thanks
[09:33] <Blissex> K_Dallas: look at '/etc/default'
[09:33] <lsuactiafner> purplefeltangel : correction fluid
[09:33] <K_Dallas> Blissex, right away, thanks
[09:34] <Blissex> K_Dallas: but recent kernels enable DMA by default
[09:34] <lsuactiafner> americans got to have a different name for everything else
[09:34] <_marius_> Uhm, I'm getting some errors on the install of slackware, the command i used to start was mount root=/dev/sda1 ro... this are the errors:: Andone knows how to fix thiese?; kmod: "Kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k block-major-8, errno = 2" , "VFS: cannot open root device "sda1" or 08:01" , "please append a correct "root=" boot option" and "Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on 08:01".
[09:34] <vash> where do i find the source code?
[09:34] <purplefeltangel> lsuactiafner: gee, thanks.
[09:34] <Robokop> purplefeltangel that is white paint to correct if you made mistake while writing
[09:34] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses: how should I write the floppy image of the damn small linux
[09:34] <K_Dallas> Blissex, i am on breezy Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-10-386
[09:34] <lsuactiafner> _marius_ : this is #ubuntu or what are you trying to do?
[09:34] <purplefeltangel> wow thank you all for being so nice to me
[09:34] <purplefeltangel> e_e;
[09:35] <K_Dallas> Blissex, and when i do hdparm -i /dev/hdc i dont see any of the udm modes stared
[09:35] <bk> does anyone know if Ubuntu comes with the V C++ GUI Framwork?
[09:35] <lsuactiafner> purplefeltangel : bleh
[09:35] <Blissex> K_Dallas: ahhhh, that probably means you have a newer ATA chipset for which the UDMA writer has not been enabled.
[09:35] <bk> if so, what is the name of it?
[09:35] <Blissex> K_Dallas: or even written yet.
[09:36] <lsuactiafner> bk : ubuntu doesnt come with development tools libs ect
[09:36] <Blissex> K_Dallas: which motherboard chipset? which disk?
[09:36] <binarygod> quick question for someone:  I'm trying to compile some files that are on an external HDD (/dev/sda3) but I can't seem to access it from the terminal, any advice?
[09:36] <Blissex> binarygod: mount it....
[09:36] <binarygod> it is
[09:36] <vash> Im trying to install the nforce drivers for my PC. ATM it says No precompiled kernel interface was found to match and it will need to make a new, and also says its unable to find the kernel source tree
[09:36] <Blissex> binarygod: then you can access it :-)
[09:36] <binarygod> have an icon on the desktop, but that doesn't show up either :)
[09:37] <Blissex> binarygod: icon on the desktop does not matter. What does 'df' or 'mount' say? Is it listed?
[09:37] <vash> what do i do
[09:37] <C-O-L-T> Kovecses:???
[09:37] <lsuactiafner> binarygod : type df -h and check where it is mounted
[09:37] <K_Dallas> Blissex, well not sure it is a celeron 2.98 on via  p4m800-1 vt8237r
[09:37] <ompaul> talk to ye tomorrow
[09:37] <binarygod> yes, media/Backup
[09:37] <vash> anyone? ;/
[09:38] <binarygod> lol
[09:38] <Adiddy> can anyone talk to me for a few minutes about scripting an FTP transfer
[09:38] <Blissex> K_Dallas: odds are thats supported. perhaps you compiled your own kernel without putting in the UDMA drivers?
[09:38] <crimsun> Adiddy: lftp makes that easier
[09:38] <binarygod> ok, I got it, I'm sorry, I'm an idiot....forgot to capitilize the B, OSX giving me bad habits
[09:38] <robotgeek> Adiddy: lftp
[09:38] <lsuactiafner> lol
[09:38] <K_Dallas> Blissex, i installed from official CD without kernel tweaking
[09:38] <butcherbird> _marius_: what os is grub on? you might see if you have a grub.conf file in same dir and rename menu.lst then ln -s grub.conf menu.lst if everything else is right
[09:38] <binarygod> lsauctiafner: thanks
[09:39] <carlos_> Hello Fellow Ubuntistas. I' am all new here, and Irun a 5.10 install on a Laptop dell C800. I still have a resolution thing, 1400X1050 works fine and is default, but lower is a problem (using education software for kids).
[09:39] <lsuactiafner> Adiddy : ncftpput might come in handy
[09:39] <K_Dallas> Blissex, this is what i get from hdparm: using_dma    =  0 (off)
[09:39] <Begasus> hiho
[09:39] <Begasus> anyone here compiled FileZilla?
[09:39] <Blissex> K_Dallas: that's obvious... What happens if you do: 'hdparm -d1 ...'?
[09:40] <K_Dallas> setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[09:40] <K_Dallas> using_dma    =  1 (on)
[09:40] <_marius_> what terminal command can get me to formate the whole harddrive?
[09:40] <K_Dallas> _marius_, fdisk maybe?
[09:40] <lsuactiafner> _marius_ : cfdisk is nice
[09:40] <bekelar> hello! how can i mount a device which is a sdhci ?
[09:40] <Dr_Acemaster> how can I edit the properties of a launcher under the applications menu?
[09:40] <bekelar> or works with sdhci, or wathever :P
[09:40] <lsuactiafner> _marius_ : and mkfs.ext3 also works wonders
[09:40] <C-O-L-T> hey people how to write a floppy image
[09:41] <Robokop> why can't i write on this partition /dev/hda5 on /media/hda5 type vfat (rw,quiet)
[09:41] <yatesy> halibut: actually i can use both quite easily
[09:41] <Blissex> K_Dallas: so it can work... So set the '/etc/default/hdparm' accordingly
[09:41] <bekelar> Robokop, what are the options in /etc/fstab ?
[09:41] <_marius_> it can not find kernel image for either of the options, i'm just running on a boot disk (old computer, can't boot from CD room
[09:42] <Blissex> Robokop: permissions and ownership. Look at the 'umask', 'uid' and 'gid' options in 'man 8 mount'
[09:42] <K_Dallas> Blissex, i will, thanks for your patience and help
[09:42] <yatesy> halibut: it has advantages in that it forces you out of bad typing habits, but you don't need one to develop good typing habits
[09:42] <lsuactiafner> _marius_ : what are you trying to do?
[09:42] <bekelar> try writing umask=000 instead of defaults
[09:42] <Adiddy> how do you PM someone? my first time on IRC
[09:42] <bekelar> so that every user can write
[09:42] <Blissex> Robokop: there are several HOWTOs on VFAT and mount permissions/ownership.
[09:42] <errr> what package do I need to install so I have /usr/share/dict/words ?
[09:42] <lsuactiafner> Adiddy : on this server you dont
[09:42] <butcherbird> Adiddy: '/msg name'
[09:42] <Blissex> errr: try 'apt-cache search ....'
[09:42] <errr> Blissex: yeah there is like tons of them
[09:43] <bekelar> you know how to mount a sdhci device?
[09:43] <metalhedd> How can I figure out where a package installs its files?
[09:43] <metalhedd> i installed smarty (php template system) but I dont know the path to the libs to include
[09:43] <errr> Blissex: which is why Im asking which one to get
[09:43] <_jason> metalhedd, dpkg -L
[09:43] <lsuactiafner> metalhedd : /etc/ for config files and run updatedb ; locate package_name
[09:43] <Blissex> metalhedd: 'dpkg --list <packagename>'
[09:43] <vash> where do i get the kernel source code for my current kernel for this drivers
[09:43] <lsuactiafner> heh didnt know that
[09:43] <metalhedd> thanks!!!
[09:44] <Blissex> errr: thats a different question... :-) And which one depends on what you want to do.
[09:44] <bestadvocate> anyone know how i can get a bittorent file to download with any program at all?
[09:44] <errr> Blissex: I want to grep that file for words spelled in USA standards english
[09:44] <Blissex> errr: also, do you want just a word list or a spelling dictionary? For the latter ...
[09:44] <Blissex> errr: then there is a word file with a really obvious name :-)
[09:44] <bestadvocate> gnome-torrent and bittornado both just sit there and give me errors on all the bittorrent files I
[09:44] <_jason> bestadvocate, gnome-bittorrent?
[09:45] <Blissex> bestadvocate: get the 'bittorrent' or 'bittornado' packages, they have command line versions etc.
[09:45] <ashyg> i think i killed my motherboard
[09:45] <Blissex> bestadvocate: many torrent files don't have any server anymore...
[09:45] <ashyg> by shorting out a PCI ethernet card
[09:45] <_jason> ashyg, ouch
[09:45] <Blissex> ashyg: that pretty cruel.
[09:45] <errr> Blissex: there is a symlink from /usr/share/dict/words to /etc/dictionaries-common/words  and there is nothing in the file it links too, the file it links to isnt even there
[09:46] <bestadvocate> Blissex, but these files work on other clients on other computers
[09:46] <ashyg> _jason: do you think that having a PCI ethernet card short out on my graphics card's fan enclosure could kill the mobo?
[09:46] <njoubert> i just installed a new HDD on a new Promise Fasttrak RAID controller. I havent installed any drivers but Ubuntu detects my HDD inside the "Disks" dialog box. How can I format this now? FDISK complains that my /dev/hde doesnt exist
[09:46] <butcherbird> bestadvocate: are you behind a firewall-router? setup port forwarding too, normally port 6881
[09:46] <lsuactiafner> ashyg : put the pc off, pull out power cord, then take battery out, wait a bit, then put it back, am talking about the cmos battery
[09:46] <_jason> ashyg, no idea
[09:46] <lsuactiafner> als did it before
[09:46] <ashyg> lsuactiafner: will try
[09:46] <Blissex> bestadvocate: then perhaps your firewall is blocking the torrent ports...
[09:46] <K_Dallas> Blissex, how should i know what udma mode is supported , i mean udma1 is ok but what about udma2? (i think that is what is set in windows)
[09:46] <Adiddy> for anyone that can help.  I have been trying to use rsync to sync files to a remote FTP server, but come to find out that my equipment wont support transfering via anything other than ftp. so i need to sync files via ftp, anyone have any ideas?
[09:46] <vash> can anyone tell me how i load the kernels source for this install
[09:46] <errr> Blissex: joker% apt-cache search dictionary|grep -ic english
[09:46] <errr> 64
[09:46] <Blissex> K_Dallas: for an y recent disk you should be getting UDMA 5
[09:47] <K_Dallas> Blissex, thanks, will try it
[09:47] <bestadvocate> butcherbird how do i steup port forwording?  and would it be a firewall problem if the same file worked on a diffrent computer that was plugged into the same internet connection?
[09:47] <Knowerrors> Anyone else have crappy looking fonts in the body of this page http://www.askmen.com/dating/dating_advice_150/178_dating_tips_a.html ?
[09:47] <errr> so of those 64 which one do you think  (or know) it is?
[09:47] <techre> i am using amarok to play mp3s, but i'm not able to get sufficient amplification even when using the EQ...   does anyone know how i can get more volume?
[09:47] <Blissex> errr: apt-cache search dictionary | egrep american
[09:47] <butcherbird> bestadvocate: yes if its forwarding to the other computer.  what type of router?
[09:47] <errr> Blissex: thanks.
[09:48] <Blissex> techre: the sound system mixers
[09:48] <bestadvocate> linksys wireless router (although not connecte via wireless card)
[09:48] <Blissex> techre: odds are you need to up both your master and PCM volumes.
[09:48] <techre> what is PCM volume?
[09:48] <K_Dallas> Q: what is the safest application to burn DVDs on 2.6.12-10-386 (breezy) ?
[09:49] <techre> oh wait, master and PCM are both maxed
[09:49] <Mukunda> Has anyone got h264 video working in Ubuntu?
[09:49] <Blissex> techre: PCM is the channel for wave output.
[09:49] <Adiddy> can anyone talk to me for a second about ftp syncing?
[09:50] <Blissex> techre: then something is really wrong.... Most cards are _very_ loud on max.
[09:50] <Blissex> Adiddy: ask specific questions....
[09:50] <crimsun> Adiddy: lftp's mirror mode.
[09:50] <techre> i dunno, i have a soundblaster of some sort
[09:50] <Blissex> K_Dallas: depends... command line it is always 'growisofs'.
[09:50] <butcherbird> bestadvocate: in firefox goto 192.0.1.0 i think for most linksys and login probably login:blank pass:admin
[09:51] <cyphase> how's everyones Friday the 13th been so far?
[09:51] <K_Dallas> Blissex, i love command line ;) thanks
[09:51] <cyphase> :P
[09:51] <Mukunda> So no-one here has been able to get h264 video working?
[09:51] <butcherbird> bestadvocate: btw while in there you might want to change that
[09:51] <Blissex> K_Dallas: 'growisofs' is very powerful, but also a bit odd. Read carefully its home page.
[09:51] <K_Dallas> Blissex, i dont seem to find it in the universes that i have in my sources
[09:51] <_marius_> does anyone know of a slackware chat channel? I need some assistance in the install on my other computer
[09:52] <Blissex> K_Dallas: also, 'growisofs' will make you want to get nice DVD+RW disks.
[09:52] <Blissex> _marius_: yes.
[09:52] <bekelar> can anyone tell me how to configure a sd card reader?
[09:52] <bestadvocate> butcherbird: thanks but it does not seem to be loading
[09:52] <mitsuhiko> any tomcat users here?
[09:52] <mitsuhiko> Hi :)
[09:52] <K_Dallas> Blissex, i have to go but thanks again for all your help
[09:52] <Adiddy> Blissex thanks, im trying to sync files to a remote site using ftp.  is tehre a tool that functions like rsync, but operates using ftp protocol
[09:52] <Blissex> K_Dallas: then read the very nice DVD+RW-tools home page, there are very good news for DVD+RW
[09:52] <sorush20> guys I have 4 partitions in this order hda4 hda1 hda3 hda6 swap, where do I install grub ?
[09:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mukunda: Have you tried VLC?
[09:53] <Blissex> Adiddy: dozens, <crimsun> has mentioned 'lftp' mirror mode. But the canonical one is a Perl script called 'mirror', good for batch
[09:53] <_marius_> Blissex, where? what name?
[09:53] <egon_spengler> sorush20, Most likely on hda1
[09:53] <Blissex> _marius_: the _obvious_ name on this server. :-)
[09:53] <sorush20> sod its /dev/hda1?
[09:54] <ashyg> lsuactiafner: how long should i remove the battery for
[09:54] <Mukunda> PuMpErNiCkLe: yup, but it's really choppy and this is on an AMD XP 3200+
[09:54] <Blissex> sorush20: depends what you mean by install and that is on those partitions.
[09:54] <sorush20> anyone here know about a gui for patitioning that gives you the images of what the hdd would look like in it were marked with a pen to show its partitions.
[09:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mukunda: hmmm... how 'bout MPlayer?
[09:54] <Xardas> gparted
[09:54] <Blissex> sorush20: what does that mean? But try 'qtparted'
[09:54] <sorush20> I need to find out where to install the grub..
[09:55] <ashyg> the MBR
[09:55] <Adiddy> Blissex I want one way syncing, in otherwords i want anything on my remote server to be deleted if its not on the source.  will both of those support that?
[09:55] <Blissex> Adiddy: yes...
[09:55] <Adiddy> thank you blissex
[09:56] <Adiddy> one more question
[09:56] <Blissex> Adiddy: but there are complications concerning times and dates.
[09:56] <Mukunda> PuMpErNiCkLe: doesn't even run. I compiled ffmpeg last night with x264 support and tried to compile mplayer but it wouldn't detect the x264 stuff, even when I did --enable-x264lib=/directory/to/library and all that.
[09:56] <Blissex> Adiddy: so be careful and do some dry run.
[09:56] <Adiddy> thank you blissex
[09:56] <ashyg> lsuactiafner: THANK YOU I LOVE YOU
[09:57] <lsuactiafner> ashyg : heh i like myself also
[09:57] <Blissex> lsuactiafner: to the point of having sex with yourself too? :-)
[09:58] <lsuactiafner> rofl
[09:59] <_marius_> Blissex: I can't find any abvious names at my server list
[09:59] <OneSeventeen> what text command makes Ubuntu re-establish network connections (i.e. makes it re-read the /etc/networking/interfaces file)
[09:59] <Blissex> _marius_: this server, the obvious name is that of the channel...
[09:59] <Shouryuu> Hi everyone, I know I'm a total idiot, but I can't manage to reboot from my CD drive. I'm trying to ditch windows for ubuntu, so I've downloaded the ubuntu install, copied to a CD properly (I have several files, not one), restart my computer, access the bios, select boot, from CD, aaannnd nothing happens, I just reboot normaly. My bios is kinda funky, it's Insyde (first time I've seen one of those)... Any advice?
[09:59] <smok3_> where can i find any docs on how to intall ubuntu next to allready installed xp system?
[09:59] <Blissex> _marius_: if the channel for Ubuntu is #Ubuntu, the channel for Slackware will be... :-)
[10:00] <WangWeiLin> Who knows the Problem? I am running Kubuntu on a Samsung X10 with a Nvidia GF 5200 go and cannot get it to work proper. I can compile driver from the page or download them with apt-get but after the next restart they don't work anymore and I have to change the /etc/X11/xorg.conf to have my X running again... can u help me?
[10:00] <smok3_> dual boot
[10:00] <yggdrasil_> is there any way to make an x screensaver run in windows ?
[10:00] <yggdrasil_> doubt it
[10:00] <Blissex> Shouryuu: you need to write the files in _image_ mode.
[10:00] <crimsun> yggdrasil_: indirectly, sure.
[10:00] <lsuactiafner> _marius_ : ##slackware     two ##
[10:00] <yggdrasil_> crimsum how is that ?
[10:00] <_jason> ubotu, tell smok3_ about dualboot
[10:00] <lsuactiafner> i used slackware though, still do, whats the problem?
[10:00] <crimsun> yggdrasil_: you can run a Linux distro as a Windows screensaver, hence you can run xscreensaver via the Linux distro
[10:00] <lsuactiafner> ive asked all night and you dont answer me _marius_
[10:00] <yggdrasil_> oh hmm intersting
[10:00] <Schamane_> moin
[10:01] <yggdrasil_> crimsonlike vmware
[10:01] <Blissex> Shouryuu: each ISO file in image mode to a single CD. Many people forget that and write the ISO image as a file
[10:01] <crimsun> yggdrasil_: except different. Search Google.
[10:01] <Afief> yggdrasil: run linux as a screenserver in windows and run the screenservers in linux:) there was an article about it on /.
[10:01] <njoubert> how should i modify fstab to automatically mount my new HDD? what does the <options>, <dump> and <pass> mean?
[10:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Mukunda: When you tried to compile it, did you actually use the gcc -L option?
[10:02] <Shouryuu> blissex - Well I've done that. At least I think so. When I look at what's written on the CD I have a dozen different files/folders and not just "Ubuntu.iso"
[10:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> oh, he left
[10:02] <Blissex> Shouryuu: that looks good. What actually happens when you try to boot? Isn't it then just a BIOS setting?
[10:03] <Blissex> Shouryuu: on many PCs the BIOS defaults to booting to HD, and then to CD.
[10:03] <vash_> Where do i find the kernel source
[10:03] <caya> hey does anyone know a good bittorrent client besides azureus for gnome
[10:03] <caya> ?
[10:03] <cmpalmer> njoubert: assuming you want the same behaviour you see with your primary HD, you should copy the line for one the primary HD's partitions
[10:03] <vash_> Nforce drivers are requesting them
[10:03] <sampan> caya  bittornado (with gui) works great for me -- in gnome and kde
[10:03] <njoubert> cmpalmer: yeah, ok, i just did that and it seems to work fine, thanks!
[10:03] <cmpalmer> njoubert: and simply change the device and mount point parts
[10:03] <cmpalmer> njoubert: :)
[10:03] <ashyg> caya bitcomet
[10:03] <ashyg> it's done in python
[10:04] <ashyg> and a lot less overhead than azureus
[10:04] <smok3_> _jason: ty
[10:04] <caya> sampan: does it tell me which files of a torrent are completed and which aren't?
[10:04] <ashyg> not as laggy
[10:04] <Shouryuu> bliss - well yeah it's a BIOS setting, but when I try to set it to Boot from CD, nothing happens at all? Might I have to disable a default setting that might be "overridding" waht I'm asking?
[10:04] <smok3_> _jason: how dangerous is it?
[10:04] <njoubert> for some weird reason my Ethernet adaptor disappeared when i installed my RAID controller... when i lspci i still see the Ethernet adapter though... any ideas what happened?
[10:04] <Blissex> Shouryuu: what kind of nothing?
[10:04] <Shouryuu> just launches windows
[10:04] <Blissex> njoubert: reconfigure it.
[10:04] <ashyg> i really wish there was a version of uTorrent for linux
[10:04] <vash_> noone can help?
[10:04] <sampan> caya, yes -- you can check that in bittornado -- it's on one of the tabs/buttons
[10:04] <njoubert> how?
[10:05] <Xenguy> vash_: hi...
[10:05] <punktab> hi all
[10:05] <njoubert> its not in my list of devices inside my network properties anymore :(
[10:05] <_jason> smok3_, resizing the ntfs partition is the only iffy part (or so I hear).  It's recommended that you defragment the drive first and make backups.  But it goes smoothly most of the time.
[10:05] <vash_> where can i find the kernel source code
[10:05] <[sellout] > anyone know how to reinstall synaptic
[10:05] <yggdrasil_> crimson found it but the screensaver i wanna run is actualy um ..opengl ...
[10:05] <caya> sampan: thanks ill check it out
[10:05] <Xorlev> kernel.org
[10:05] <smok3_> _jason: so i assume that only os you run is ubuntu?
[10:05] <ashyg> http://www.utorrent.com/ (windows app, but very sexy... i pray for a linux version)
[10:05] <Xenguy> vash_: do you need 'kernel headers' or the kernel source code (preface my nick before your response please)
[10:06] <lsuactiafner> why doesnt ubotu reply with the current kernel anymore?
[10:06] <lsuactiafner> now i got to visit kernel.org
[10:06] <vash_> Xenguy, i am installing Nforce drivers and it asks for the Kernel source tree to rebuild the kernel
[10:06] <caya> ashyg: yes utorrent is *very* nice ...
[10:06] <mwe> vash_: source for vanilla kernel is on kernel.org. ubuntu kernel source is in the repos
[10:06] <[sellout] > anyone know how to reinstall synaptics
[10:06] <lukus001> this is really gay now, my desktop graphic keep crashing, going all funcy colour n stuff'
[10:06] <caya> ashyg: i was looking for an app like utorrent. on kde there is ktorrent ...
[10:06] <vash_> mwe: how do i bring it out of the repos
[10:06] <_jason> smok3_, I have windows on here somewhere :P  What I did was format my drive, reinstall windows to a small partition, then install ubuntu.  But that's just cus I didn't have too much to save on the windows install I had before.
[10:06] <mwe> [sellout] : sudo apt-get --reinstall install synaptic
[10:06] <Xenguy> vash_: wow, I thought maybe it was kernel headers you meant, sorry
[10:07] <mwe> [sellout] : why'd you do that though?
[10:07] <[sellout] > what if you dont have apt-get
[10:07] <smok3_> _jason: maybe i should rather use partition magic to prepare empty space for ubuntu, or should i leave that to the ubuntu partitioner?
[10:07] <[sellout] > it was reinstaling some packages for gcc and it died halfway
[10:07] <_marius_> how do I write a message to a person? :P
[10:07] <mwe> vash_: the same way you install other ubuntu packages
[10:07] <butcherbird> [sellout] : then u prob want that first :)
[10:07] <[sellout] > no mroe synaptic
[10:07] <[sellout] > how can i install apt-get
[10:07] <vash_> Mwe: people been telling me what to type, and i type it. I dont know other than there is going to be a command
[10:07] <Shouryuu> well I guess I
[10:07] <mwe> [sellout] : you do have it
[10:08] <Shouryuu> ll try tinkering with my bios...
[10:08] <mwe> [sellout] : at least if you're running ubuntu
[10:08] <_jason> smok3_, I wasn't even aware the installer did it.  It might though if you read that in the doc.  You could use partition magic if you wish, or gparted which is in the livecd.
[10:08] <scummbar> hi people
[10:08] <lukus001> how do i stop my computer graphics from crashing? it seams that Xorg crashes after 30 minutes of so turning into funcy colours over the window etc..
[10:08] <mwe> vash_: so you don't know how to install things in ubuntu?
[10:08] <mwe> vash_: use the package manager
[10:08] <scummbar> someone knows if it's possible to switch grub that I want to reboot to windows know (only one time) ?
[10:08] <_marius_> Can someone please answere? How do I send a message to a person? So it become red for him/her
[10:08] <vash_> I have
[10:09] <smok3_> _jason: ok, tnx again, dunno about ubuntu partitioner, at least the wizard is behaveing weirdly
[10:09] <yggdrasil_> scumbar i dont understand
[10:09] <lukus001> scummer should just need to press ESC during boot up process
[10:09] <_jason> smok3_, just make sure you don't do something silly like tell the installer to install to the windows partition, choose the free space option (which you create using gparted or partition magic)
[10:09] <smok3_> on this computer i have only 13 gigs free on first drive
[10:09] <lukus001> and select widnows
[10:09] <butcherbird> [sellout] : i guess you could always grab the deb from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:10] <smok3_> _jason: nope, i was trying : use free space option
[10:10] <scummbar> yggdrasil for example, I want to reboot to windows by default without selecting windows line in grub, and the other times grub loads linux by default
[10:10] <_andrej_> hi
[10:10] <Blissex> scummbar: you can't have two defaults, of course.
[10:10] <vash_> it says i have Kernel-tree-2.6.11
[10:10] <scummbar> in System, Exit, it would be great that appear an option that says "Reboot to windows
[10:10] <vash_> but these drivers says its full of shit
[10:10] <seashell11> [sellout]  open up the terminal and type in    sudo apt-get --reinstall install synaptic
[10:10] <_jason> smok3_, what exactly do you mean by behaving weirdly?
[10:10] <smok3_> anyway, i better use some computer that is not so critical for xp
[10:10] <mwe> vash_: what's that?
[10:10] <_andrej_> has anyone install ubuntu on a MSI K8N Master2 motherboard with sata and raid?
[10:11] <smok3_> _jason: well, like it seems like he found 108 gigs of space for itself
[10:11] <CactusWiZaRd> how do i translate Mozilla Firefox 1.5 from sources?
[10:11] <smok3_> which isnt possible
[10:11] <_andrej_> I'm hopeless about it
[10:11] <vash_> when i goto user/src/ there is kernel-patches and Kernel-source-2.6.11.tar.bz2
[10:11] <smok3_> so i asumed it will just erase xp...
[10:11] <yggdrasil_> ah scumbar you jsut have to manualy set grub each time i guese
[10:11] <smok3_> dunno
[10:11] <scummbar> and there's no script to do this?
[10:11] <majd> hey guys
[10:11] <mwe> vash_: you want the source of your running kernel I asume
[10:11] <scummbar> ...
[10:11] <butcherbird> scummbar: you can do that from terminal
[10:12] <vash_> mwe: yes please
[10:12] <scummbar> butcherbird: how?
[10:12] <yggdrasil_> butcher how ?
[10:12] <lukus001> does anyone know how to stop my desktop graphics from crashing? i cant really do anything when the whole screen goes all differerent colours?
[10:12] <smok3_> oh, another question, i will try to use amd64 version, should i be aware of anything ?
[10:12] <mwe> vash_: then get linux-source-<your kernel version>
[10:12] <Blissex> lukus001: describe the issue a bit better....
[10:12] <butcherbird> scummbar: see http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Booting-once_002donly.html
[10:12] <scummbar> thanks
[10:12] <majd> lukus: get a new monitor
[10:13] <mwe> smok3_: not other than some things are broken or only half working. other than that it's fine
[10:13] <lukus001> blissex, basically, atm all my programs display properly then they go all funny showing lines all accross in differernt colours
[10:13] <[sellout] > apt-get command not found
[10:13] <_jason> smok3_, I don't use it, but there are a few things that you can't get yet.  You can browse ubuntuforums.org.  That will probably give you an idea of others' experiences
[10:13] <mwe> [sellout] : your ubuntu is broken if it doesn't have apt-get
[10:13] <Niick> <niik
[10:14] <lukus001> majd, lol you idiot
[10:14] <Blissex> [sellout] : thats practically impossible -- but: you must be 'root'.
[10:14] <Blissex> [sellout] : so usually 'sudo apt-get instal ....'
[10:14] <smok3_> mwe, _jason : right, so i better use i386 distro?
[10:14] <pwn__> Uhm does anyone here know how much space slackware require? Only the OS itself
[10:14] <[sellout] > sudo apt-get
[10:14] <Niick> somone to write whidt me
[10:14] <mwe> smok3_: I would
[10:14] <[sellout] > command not found
[10:14] <vash_> what are the chances of my linux explodeing from installing these drivers
[10:14] <simak> anyone running galeon?  need opinion.
[10:14] <[sellout] > locate apt-get gets nothing
[10:14] <Blissex> lukus001: sounds like hardware problem -- video card overheating?
[10:14] <_jason> smok3_, I would as well
[10:14] <mwe> smok3_: however some people are almost religious about using the 64bit version
[10:14] <Niick> fuck this is suks
[10:14] <Blissex> pwn__: ask in ##Slackware
[10:15] <tdn_> I have several kernels installed on this system. How can I remove those I do not use? And how do I check which one is the one Ubuntu "likes to use"? By that I mean the one that Ubuntu has recently installed when I did an apt-get dist-upgrade.
[10:15] <simak> Niick, what's wrong?
[10:15] <smok3_> right, well so iam planning to do multimedia at the end
[10:15] <smok3_> like video editing, cinnerela and stuff liek that
[10:15] <yggdrasil_> scumbar you get it ?
[10:15] <Blissex> smok3_: the i386 distro is more ''compatible'', for example you don't get Flash on the x64
[10:15] <smok3_> what could be the performance difference?
[10:15] <lukus001> blissex, nope, it happened in my old ubuntu (hedghog one) and i cant remember how i fixed it... i think i ended up using freeX or somin (the alternative to xorg?)
[10:15] <mwe> [sellout] : I don't know. your ubuntu is broken. badly if apt-get is not there
[10:15] <smok3_> Blissex: ic
[10:16] <Blissex> lukus001: could be a bug in Xorg, but that's unlikely. Which video card?
[10:16] <Niick> i can't not so good english
[10:16] <[sellout] > ive never had apt-get
[10:16] <Blissex> smok3_: however, for video etc. 64 bit is rather faster.
[10:16] <lukus001> blissex, but i cant actually remember being sucessful installing the other version
[10:16] <[sellout] > i always wonderd about that
[10:16] <vash_> do i have to manually extract these?
[10:16] <Blissex> [sellout] : thats very very bad.
[10:16] <[sellout] > is there a .deb i can install
[10:16] <[sellout] > to get apt-get?
[10:16] <mwe> [sellout] : hwo did you install anything then?
[10:16] <simak> Niick, you seem to know some bad words.  If you need help just try to ask.
[10:16] <[sellout] > i used synaptic
[10:16] <Blissex> [sellout] : sure there is, and almost surely is on your CD. But you can download it too.
[10:16] <[sellout] > but i always tried installign stuff with apt-get
[10:16] <smok3_> Blissex: you are talking about flash player i assume? there is no flash authoring for linux i suppose?
[10:16] <mwe> [sellout] : but that uses apt-get
[10:16] <[sellout] > ne ver worked
[10:16] <Blissex> [sellout] : then install it using Synaptic'
[10:16] <[sellout] > synaptic is broken now
[10:16] <[sellout] > it uninstaled itself
[10:16] <lukus001> blissex, nvidia turbocache 6200 somthing or other...
[10:17] <[sellout] > doign soem updates
[10:17] <mcphail> Can someone remind me how i check the md5sum of a burned cd?
[10:17] <butcherbird> [sellout] : http://packages.ubuntu.com/ search for apt um synaptic is just a frontend for apt-get
[10:17] <Niick> yes but i come from denemark and i not goodt to english
[10:17] <Blissex> mwe: more precisely Synaptic uses the APT libraries, not 'apt-get' itself.
[10:17] <mwe> [sellout] : um soudns weird
[10:17] <mwe> Blissex: yeah
[10:17] <Blissex> [sellout] : you have done something very bad, like mixing two versions of Ubuntu without really knowing how to do it.
[10:17] <Niick> and this is ferst time i ind lenux
[10:17] <_andrej_> anyone here who've install ubuntu on sata disks with softraid?
[10:17] <mwe> Blissex: I don't know why someone would not have apt-get though
[10:18] <Blissex> lukus001: that sounds new enough it could be a bit problematic.
[10:18] <lsuactiafner> _andrej_ : yeh
[10:18] <Blissex> mwe: very very weird indeed.
[10:18] <_jason> ubotu, tell mcphail about md5
[10:18] <_andrej_> lsuactiafner: so i can't get it work:(
[10:18] <lsuactiafner> _andrej_ : go find a howto
[10:18] <[sellout] > did a breezy badger bas einstall
[10:18] <Blissex> [sellout] : wait a sec for a list opf URLs to download.
[10:18] <mwe> Blissex: or why synaptic would uninstall itself at an upgrade. never heard of that
[10:18] <Blissex> [sellout] : OK, so it is breezy.
[10:18] <smok3_> mkay, another dumb question, the command line terminal, is 'terminal' the word for command line shell in ubuntu?
[10:18] <_andrej_> lsuactiafner: great.... the installer doesn't seem to work
[10:18] <lsuactiafner> _andrej_ : umm, use mdadm from a terminal
[10:18] <Niick> i so bad to this
[10:19] <Blissex> mwe: it can do that if one tries to update to some libraries that Synaptic depends upon but not released yet..
[10:19] <lsuactiafner> _andrej_ : but it took me hours also, i kept screwing it up
[10:19] <_andrej_> lsuactiafner: that's bad news
[10:19] <Blissex> mwe: but then it would display really prominent, red, flashing, screaming warnings.
[10:19] <lsuactiafner> _andrej_ : but i didnt gain speed on 2 seagate 8mb cache 7200rpm disks
[10:19] <vash_> how do i extract a .tar.bz2
[10:19] <lsuactiafner> _andrej_ : and my amd64 3200+ was slowed down
[10:19] <Niick> somone can help me to write ind english?
[10:20] <smarco> is OpenOffice 2.0 (stable) available in ubuntu?
[10:20] <lukus001> blissex, sorry my screen properly crashed then. Gcard = gforce 6200 turbocache
[10:20] <lsuactiafner> vash_ : tar -jxf file.tar.bz2
[10:20] <_andrej_> lsuactiafner: i need it for data safety
[10:20] <[sellout] > where would it be locatd in the disk?
[10:20] <Blissex> lukus001: it is new and weird enough that it may be that well supported.
[10:20] <[sellout] > i am browsing the disk now
[10:20] <mwe> the dash is not needed
[10:20] <Blissex> lukus001: what do you use it for?
[10:20] <Niick> somone from denemark ind here
[10:20] <vash_> its sitting there like its not doing anything
[10:20] <grayhane> anyone know the syntax to allow grip to include the track numbers on the mp3's
[10:20] <Blissex> [sellout] : if you got the disk it is easy, just a few 'dpkg --install' lines.
[10:20] <lsuactiafner> _andrej_ : cant remember now how i did it and cant bring up the screens to check for you, but best advice i give is to go make tea or coffee and dont think about it, when you go back you will do it correctly
[10:20] <brasko> hi all again!
[10:21] <vash_> it stoped now, but nothing happened
[10:21] <deuce^> Is there an easy way to upgrade from Hoary to Breezy without reinstalling?
[10:21] <brasko> I was wondering, has anyone use the nomachine stuff to connect from linux to windows?
[10:21] <Blissex> grayhane: it its one of the format strings, if you mean in the filename.
[10:21] <lsuactiafner> just remember i used mdadm
[10:21] <vash_> im trying to extract the linux source, but it wont
[10:21] <grayhane> Yes I know that but I do not know what variable is used to denote track number %/
[10:21] <brasko> I already setup the freenx server, and can connect from windows->linux
[10:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> deuce^: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:21] <brasko> works great
[10:21] <lukus001> blissex, use my gcard for? normal stuff
[10:21] <_andrej_> lsuactiafner: ok i'll try
[10:21] <brasko> Now I want to go from linux->windows
[10:22] <brasko> any ideas?
[10:22] <Blissex> grayhane: that really in the manual, but my format string is: "%A-%d/%t-%a-%n.%x"
[10:22] <_jason> brasko, you should be able to with nxclient
[10:22] <Blissex> lukus001: any accelerated 3D use?
[10:22] <brasko> Is there an nxclient for ubuntu in the package manager?
[10:22] <Blissex> lukus001: any high performance requirements?
[10:22] <brasko> I have nxserver and nxsetup
[10:22] <Blissex> brasko: try 'apt-cache search nx'
[10:22] <lukus001> blissex, nope - i do some 3d modeling (blender) but the card it too crap for game etc..
[10:22] <C-O-L-T> help me
[10:22] <_jason> brasko, seveas' repos used to have it, check there
[10:22] <C-O-L-T> I have an old pc too
[10:22] <deuce^> PuMpErNiCkLe: I had tried that.  It doesn't do it.  I get: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:22] <_jason> ubotu, tell brasko about seveas
[10:23] <C-O-L-T> I wanted to install damn small linux on it
[10:23] <C-O-L-T> but i can not boot
[10:23] <grayhane> Blissex, tnx, I did ck the book must have missed that one thanks
[10:23] <C-O-L-T> i have boot floppy + cd
[10:23] <C-O-L-T> but it does not boot's
[10:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> deuce^: hmm... you may have to open /etc/apt/sources.list, search for "hoary" and replace it with "breezy"
[10:23] <C-O-L-T> why?
[10:23] <Blissex> lukus001: because if you use 3D you can always use the proprietary binary drivers from NVIDIA and hope they work better.
[10:24] <Blissex> lukus001: also, a 6200 is good enough to play many pretty good games, from Quake3 upwards.
[10:24] <brasko> I have nxclient in my synaptic
[10:24] <lukus001> blissex, you mean nvidia-glx?
[10:24] <Blissex> lukus001: yes, that.
[10:24] <brasko> but I get this error
[10:24] <brasko> nxclient: Depends: libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2  but it is not installable
[10:24] <mwe> C-O-L-T: why are you asking about damn small linux in #ubuntu?
[10:24] <lukus001> blissex, i have that installed (is it actuall good enough for quak? i might try that!)
[10:24] <_jason> brasko, enable the universe repository
[10:24] <_jason> ubotu, tell brasko about repos
[10:25] <C-O-L-T> mwe: cause I want to install it in my old pc, I run ubuntu, jsut I need something for my old maschine
[10:25] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak:?
[10:25] <Blissex> lukus001: it is good enough for quite a few games, including Doom3 etc. In low res/quality. For Quake3 etc. it is gouing to be pretty fast.
[10:25] <lukus001> blissex, i can only remember getting 5fps on planeshift, maybe it was just the internet conenction
[10:25] <brasko> this is the one I already added to get the server
[10:25] <brasko> ubuntu-seveas
[10:25] <mwe> C-O-L-T: you can't expect damn small linux support in here. in fact is off topic
[10:25] <brasko> http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/freenx/
[10:25] <Blissex> lukus001: 5FPS sounds more like improperly install binary drivers.
[10:25] <brasko> I think I was told to do that from here somewhere
[10:25] <Blissex> lukus001: or no installed. lets' see.
[10:26] <lukus001> blissex, that sounds about right, i actuall had trouble installing it back then
[10:26] <EloraKun> Hi people. How can I configure a new sound card -SB Audigy- from the console in Breezy?
[10:26] <C-O-L-T> mwe: an hour ago I got damn small linux support here :)
[10:26] <crimsun> EloraKun: you plug it in, why?
[10:26] <mwe> C-O-L-T: it's still off topic
[10:26] <_jason> brasko, yeah that's seveas' repo, or a mirror anyway
[10:26] <brasko> yeah, it has nxclient, but won't let me install, is that a bug?
[10:26] <brasko> in the package manager?
[10:27] <_jason> brasko, did you enable universe?
[10:27] <EloraKun> crimsun: It doesn't seem to detect it. eLive has problems with alsaconf, too
[10:27] <smok3_> and another question, using wap-wka encription for wireless, is there a way that this will work on ubuntu?
[10:27] <Blissex> smok3_: unlikely...
[10:27] <cycom> is there a way to make grub look for grub.conf instead of menu.lst?
[10:27] <lukus001> blissex, do you have to install quake via a linux bought CD or can i use my windows disk?
[10:27] <vash_> finally extracted it, and the stuff says unable to find kernel source tree still
[10:27] <brasko> _jason: nope. I'll read the wiki.
[10:27] <crimsun> EloraKun: Ubuntu doesn't ship alsaconf due to lots of buggy crop-ups
[10:27] <Blissex> cycom: symbolic link
[10:27] <Blissex> cycom: or 'configfile' directive.
[10:27] <crimsun> EloraKun: what's the lspci -v output? Use pastebin.
[10:28] <cycom> Blissex: I thought about a sym link.
[10:28] <_jason> brasko, that depend that it complains about comes from universe
[10:28] <cycom> Blissex: configfile directive?
[10:28] <Blissex> lukus001: wait a bit more...
[10:28] <vash_> anyone know what to do
[10:28] <eugman> If I wanted to resize an ntfs partition on a secondary hardrive and add a ext3 part what program should I use?
[10:28] <Blissex> cycom: inside 'grub' itself. You can have a 'menu.lst' that just loads another
[10:29] <Blissex> eugman: the 'btfstools' package does resize the NTFS partition. And amazingly it is way faster than most MS Windows based programs that do it.
[10:29] <Amaranth> parted can resize ntfs too
[10:29] <CactusWiZaRd> how can i install Firefox 1.5? i just extracted it from console but i don't know how to update the current version, which is 1.0.7
[10:29] <eugman> Can this be done through desktop and are there any dangers to worry about?
[10:30] <lsuactiafner> CactusWiZaRd : since you only extracted the installer and if you want to install it install it into your /home and change your menu entries
[10:30] <Amaranth> eugman: whenever you resize a partition, with any program on any os, you risk data loss
[10:30] <mwe> Blissex: you mean ntfstools, right?
[10:30] <smok3_> Blissex: how about wireless usb thingy, if i turn off all the encriptions?
[10:30] <Blissex> mwe yes
[10:30] <lsuactiafner> CactusWiZaRd : you are still using the old binary from the old menu
[10:30] <malv> hmm, i got another batch of ubuntu cds
[10:30] <malv> seem to be corrupted
[10:30] <malv> 3rd time its happened
[10:30] <brasko> _jason: I was afraid to add the universe, cause I was told the binaries are incompatible
[10:31] <crimsun> malv: possible but highly unlikely
[10:31] <lsuactiafner> i need to get new cds
[10:31] <CactusWiZaRd> ok, so which files should i edit?
[10:31] <lsuactiafner> wish i could place pre-oders
[10:31] <EloraKun> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7110
[10:31] <cycom> Blissex: ok. The deal is I want to share by /boot with a gentoo install and have them see the same menu.lst and grub.conf.  The sym link would do that.
[10:31] <lsuactiafner> for dapper
[10:31] <_jason> brasko, what binaries are incompatible with what?
[10:31] <cycom> Blissex: any better ideas?
[10:31] <malv> crimsun: I don't get it, i've tried these cds on multiple drives
[10:31] <malv> crimsun: very few cds actually work fine
[10:31] <smok3_> hehe, the ubuntu dvd goes down at 500 KB/sec ;)
[10:32] <smok3_> why would you need cds?
[10:32] <eugman> hmmm. So can anyone give me a general idea of how risky this is?
[10:32] <malv> to distribute to pals
[10:32] <Blissex> cycom: you can add to the 'menu.lst' for each a 'configfile' directive to load the other 'menu.lst'
[10:32] <crimsun> EloraKun: lsb_release -r
[10:32] <malv> either I am very unlucky, or these is some manufacturing issues
[10:32] <malv> there*
[10:32] <crimsun> EloraKun: then, lsmod|grep ^snd_ca0106
[10:33] <EloraKun> crimsun: Release 5.10
[10:33] <_jason> eugman, you should defrag and make backups before doing it
[10:33] <Blissex> lukus001: wait a bit more...
[10:33] <lukus001> blissex lol np
[10:33] <yaaar> cycom: why don't you just put the gentoo kernel images on the ubuntu /boot partition and mount that as /boot in gentoo as well?\
[10:33] <eugman> Bah I guess i can wait a while then.
[10:33] <EloraKun> crimsun: lsmod|grep ^snd_ca0106
[10:33] <EloraKun> snd_ca0106             31012  1
[10:33] <Blissex> lukus001: I am trying to find a review I saw with fairly impressive numbers for a 6200.
[10:34] <crimsun> EloraKun: and the output from amixer onto pastebin
[10:34] <lukus001> blissex, ok cool
[10:34] <yaaar> Blissex: sorry,
[10:34] <Blissex> lukus001: in the meantime you can look at the Ubuntu Wiki on how to do a proper installation of the NVIDIA driver.
[10:34] <yaaar> Blissex: the comment above i accidentally directed at cycom instead of you
[10:34] <StudyUrNme> eugman, it's a 50-50 chance, make backups and it goes well or do not make backups and it doesn't :-)
[10:34] <lukus001> blissex it is properly installed atm
[10:35] <lukus001> =)
[10:35] <Blissex> lukus001: and it crashes?
[10:35] <yaaar> er, never mind....i'm confused
[10:35] <czr> aren't we all at some times
[10:35] <eugman> Oh stop being silly, That's like saying it's 50-50 a book to the head will kill a man.
[10:35] <lukus001> blissex well the graphics, xorg atleast does
[10:35] <Blissex> lukus001: look at this and rejoice: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2238&p=7
[10:36] <jahshu> how can I tell if someone has hacked my ubuntu box?
[10:36] <StudyUrNme> no, that depends on height, partition resizing depends on (the absence of) backups
[10:36] <jahshu> it has become very unstable and where it used to take about 30 seconds to boot it now takes upto 15 minutes!
[10:36] <czr> jahshu, if they're not good, netstat -tl
[10:36] <EloraKun> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7111
[10:36] <_andrej_> thx
[10:36] <_andrej_> byez
[10:36] <Blissex> jahshu: it is practically impossible to tell if one has hacked.
[10:36] <lukus001> blissex, cool - ty
[10:36] <czr> jahshu, if they're good you'd not be asking the qiestion
[10:36] <Blissex> jahshu: unless you are an expert.
[10:37] <Blissex> jahshu: but you can try to install the 'chkrootkit' package.
[10:37] <CactusWiZaRd> plz do i have to edit some files if i want the newest Firefox browser work? in FF sites there was some installing crap but umm...
[10:37] <Blissex> jahshu: however, usually hacked machines work as fast as before. hackers tend to ensure that it is hard to notice that the machine is hacked.
[10:37] <Blissex> jahshu: it is much more likely that somehow some vital bit of configuration got lot.
[10:37] <majd> do games run good on WINE?
[10:37] <timfrost> !ff1.5
[10:37] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:37] <StudyUrNme> eugman,  in every harddisk lives a little guy called Murphy
[10:38] <eugman> I see, go on..
[10:38] <eugman> oh wait
[10:38] <mwe> meshe: a few do
[10:38] <kitty_> can someone tell me why im being told that i'm not allowed to move folders...
[10:38] <CactusWiZaRd> cheers, guys :)
[10:38] <Blissex> majd: some games. And some other run well on Cedega. And there are several Linux native games too.
[10:38] <eugman> I'm an idiot
[10:38] <yaaar> majd: depends entirely on the game in question. some run perfectly....others don't run at all. and lots in between
[10:38] <eugman> let me guess. He has a law.
[10:38] <majd> Counter strike 1.6
[10:38] <mwe> meshe: 99.9% dont run on wine at all
[10:38] <czr> majd, why don't you use windows to play games?
[10:38] <Blissex> kitty_: permissions likely.
[10:38] <jahshu> i was playing netpanzer my system froze and now i have this problem  at first the machine gave me an irq 15 error I ran a memory test from the cd and it finnally booted but i wont turn it off again because of the 15minute boot time any suggestions would be helpful...
[10:38] <majd> czr: i broke up with windows
[10:38] <TTilus> jahshu: somehow broken rather than cracked
[10:38] <Knowerrors> Can anyone direct me how to reinstall grub using the install cd, without doing a complete reinstall?
[10:38] <progrock> How do I mount an ntfs partition?
[10:38] <Blissex> majd: CS should work on Cedega....
[10:38] <thegladiator> gamers ! gamers and gamer ....windows has  prodcued a lot of 'em!
[10:38] <kitty_> but i cant change it because im not root
[10:38] <czr> majd, then get a gaming console :-)
[10:38] <Seveas> !tell progrock about diskmounter
[10:38] <crimsun> EloraKun: please increase the volumes on the Analog* controls. Start with 'Analog Front'
[10:38] <yaaar> majd: which games are you primarily interested in?
[10:39] <vash_> why is my terminal saying command not found to a ati-driver-installer-8.20.8.run
[10:39] <Blissex> Knowerrors: depends what you mean by reinstall and what you mean by grub
[10:39] <_jason> ubotu, tell Knowerrors about grub
[10:39] <StudyUrNme> eugman, , you're only an idiot if you intend to resize partitions without a backup of any valuable data or configs
[10:39] <_jason> Knowerrors, I think that's what you want
[10:39] <Blissex> vash_: USE THE UBUNTU BINARY PACKAGE, not the ATI installer.
[10:39] <majd> yaaar: only counter strike 1.6
[10:39] <thegladiator> instaed of tweaking a linux system to play a game (unless it is to play with an OS) get back to windows and play the game and stuff and once u r done get back !
[10:39] <iluminate> wow...crowded
[10:39] <yaaar> majd: works perfectly
[10:39] <vash_> whats that
[10:39] <Stormx2> iluminate: Ah ha ;-)
[10:40] <majd> yaaar: with cedega or wine?
[10:40] <vash_> i dont see any ubuntu packages
[10:40] <EloraKun> crimsun: I've been changing them now. They get nothing at all -which is an improvement, since before trying eLive they tended to generate loud static anytime i started XMMS-
[10:40] <kitty_> HAS ANYONE HERE GOT DUNGEON KEEPER TO WORK..?
[10:40] <Seveas> kitty_, drop the caps
[10:40] <kitty_> sorry
[10:40] <TTilus> jahshu: kitty_ dont shout, please
[10:40] <Seveas> !tell vash_ about ati
[10:40] <iluminate> I have a problem....Will go online with a website in a couple of weeks. My question is if Ubuntu Server is ready to go live? Will run apache, mysql 5 and Php5
[10:40] <Seveas> iluminate, of course
[10:41] <TTilus> jahshu: oops, double address, sorry  :)
[10:41] <yaaar> majd: the last time i ran it was some time ago, but i was using 'winex' which is the free version of cedega. interestingly, on the same hardware i saw a consistently slightly higher frames per second on linux vs. windows
[10:41] <Seveas> well, mysql5 not yet in the stable release
[10:41] <mwe> kitty_: your caps lock key seems to be stuck
[10:41] <cmpalmer> iluminate: I've been running a webserver for several months
[10:41] <yggdrasil_> whats the crontab syntax for every minute ? 1 * *  * *  ?
[10:41] <Seveas> yggdrasil, no
[10:41] <kitty_> no it doesnt
[10:41] <Knowerrors> _jason: yeah, thats it, thx, I have to reinstall windows, which will overwrite grup, but don't want to completely reinstall ubuntu
[10:41] <yggdrasil_> hmm
[10:41] <_jason> yggdrasil, how about all * ?
[10:41] <Seveas> yggdrasil, * * *  * *
[10:41] <yggdrasil_> ahh cool
[10:41] <GenneX> Hey people
[10:41] <majd> ok i just installed the wine package, but i dont know what to do
[10:42] <majd> can anyone point me somewhere?
[10:42] <yaaar> majd: i know there was some change to the way transgaming was releasing the free version...used to be they kept a cvs repo, but i don't know the story now.
[10:42] <progrock> how safe is it to write to an ntfs partition?
[10:42] <Blissex> progrock: not.
[10:42] <GenneX> Hopefully someone can help me. I need some help on how to run valgrind ...
[10:42] <jahshu> i was playing netpanzer my system froze and now i have this problem  at first the machine gave me an irq 15 error I ran a memory test from the cd and it finnally booted but i wont turn it off again because of the 15minute boot time any suggestions would be helpful...
[10:42] <Stormx2> progrock: about as safe as george bush and a stack of nukes.
[10:42] <progrock> but reading is safe, right?
[10:42] <yggdrasil_> Seveas lets see if it works i just wrote a sctipt to switch out my wallpaper in fluxbox
[10:42] <Blissex> progrock: however, _overwriting_ is safer with a very recent driver.
[10:42] <_jason> progrock, reading is fine
[10:42] <lukus001> argh, my MMB scroll doesnt work? where are the mouse setting located?
[10:42] <yaaar> majd: i pretty much gave up gaming a while back. these days the only thing i use wine for is to run dvdshrink, and the normal wine works fine for that
[10:42] <majd> ok i'm installing xwine now
[10:42] <EloraKun> majd: use wineconf, then go to the directory of your game and wine game.exe
[10:42] <vash_> how do i see what kernel version im runing
[10:42] <caya> yaar: is winex completely free??
[10:42] <Seveas> progrock, yes
[10:42] <iluminate> Seveas: Which to use ? Drapper or Breezy?
[10:42] <yaaar> majd: i'm not sure whether xwine is the same thing
[10:42] <Seveas> iluminate, breezy
[10:42] <Stormx2> vash_: uname -a
[10:42] <majd> EloraKun: thanks
[10:42] <mwe> majd: for CS there's a great howto somewhere. I forgot where but I'm sure google knows
[10:42] <Blissex> yaaar: you can use 'dvd::rip' and others to do the same as DVDShrink.
[10:42] <progrock> ok, good enough, thanks
[10:43] <Karlabob> I really need help configuring my DVDslimdisc thingy PLEASE help somebody I'm in a really bad hurry and I can't play the DVD because it works on 0.7x
[10:43] <vash_> thank you
[10:43] <majd> yaaar:description said that xwine is just a gui for wine
[10:43] <GenneX> anyone here that has used valgrind before ?
[10:43] <yancheng> Hello, wat should be the "find" command i can use to find all the java file, with "Convert Stack to RGB" text in the source code??
[10:43] <yaaar> Blissex: are you sure? dvd::rip can shrink a dual-layer dvd to single-layer dvd size, in dvd format, keeping menus/special features/etc.?
[10:44] <yaaar> Blissex: because the last time I checked it definitely could not.
[10:44] <crimsun> EloraKun: did you unmute 'AC97 in', too?
[10:44] <Blissex> yaaar: yes...
[10:44] <brasko> Does anyone use nxclient to connect from linux->windows?
[10:44] <brasko> anyhelp configuring nxclient, windows machine?
[10:44] <progrock> think its a good idea to us FAT32 when running dual boot?
[10:44] <crimsun> EloraKun: also try unmuting 'SRC out'
[10:44] <Blissex> yaaar: and there are a few others. Note it won't produce a DVD-compatible DVD though.
[10:44] <Seveas> yancheng, grep "Convert Stack to RGB"  -R /path/tp/source/tree
[10:44] <Blissex> yaaar: you need another program for that.
[10:44] <Karlabob> Please help, easy configuring, no biggie
[10:44] <yaaar> Blissex: see that's exactly what i'm talking about...
[10:44] <jahshu> put a firecracker next to your linux partition and lite it, dont forget to duck
[10:45] <vash_> im getting a bunch of cant find packages
[10:45] <Blissex> yaaar: but you can use 'dvd::rip to prepare the files, then use the DVD-Video packager for the last step.
[10:45] <CactusWiZaRd> how can i delete a locked folder in /home?
[10:45] <iluminate> Seveas:Thanks! I'm using Breezy as a desktop Os and I am in love, and therefor I find it suitable to run it as a server 2 instead of antoher distro.
[10:45] <EloraKun> crimsun: unmute? If that's a command, it does not exist...
[10:45] <yaaar> Blissex: DVD-Video packager?
[10:45] <Seveas> CactusWiZaRd, su rm -rf ~/folder/
[10:45] <Seveas> sudo, not su
[10:45] <EloraKun> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7112
[10:45] <jahshu> I took my tv card out of a winblowz machine to try and build it on my ubuntu box..couldnt get it working on ubuntu put it back in the satan machine and now everything is scred up!
[10:45] <CactusWiZaRd> k
[10:46] <tdn_> How do I make the font size in Gaim's message windows larger? I can barely read it now.
[10:46] <Blissex> yaaar: DVD-Video is in a different format from DVD-ROM... So you need a program that can build a proper DVD-Video image, not an ISO one.
[10:46] <crimsun> EloraKun: it's not a command. What are you using to adjust the volumes?
[10:46] <eugman> StudyUrName, I've done close.
[10:46] <EloraKun> Doesn't ubuntu have an automatic configurator for this kind of stuff? MDK did that automatically
[10:46] <progrock> How do I make the sensitivity on my touchpad lower? (it keeps clicking on random things is so sensitive)
[10:46] <EloraKun> crimsun: alsamixer
[10:46] <yaaar> Blissex: no, dvd video is just a set of files on an iso fs
[10:46] <crimsun> EloraKun: press 'm'
[10:47] <Karlabob> Chances of getting help from here are as big as winning in the lottery, apparently -_-
[10:47] <Blissex> yaaar: but DVD-Video actually just contains a bunch of MPEG2 files and a few other things. It is just the format of the imagfe that is different.
[10:47] <LoRe> when i download a pdf with firefox, it asks me either to open it with xpdf or save it to disk. how can i tell firefox to change the default application for pdf to kpdf or acroread?
[10:47] <yaaar> Blissex: so, what's this packager program? is it in the repos?
[10:47] <Blissex> yaaar: no, DVD-Video is actually in UDF, not in ISO format, and even then it must be specially formatted UDF.
[10:47] <Seveas> LoRe, probably in about:config
[10:47] <mips> Hi, how do you identify your kernel version ?
[10:47] <crimsun> mips: uname -r
[10:47] <vash_> your ati page you sent is worthless to me
[10:47] <lukus001> that the command for delete ?
[10:48] <EloraKun> crimsun: Press m in alsamixer? Does nothing. Sticks to CA0106
[10:48] <lukus001> whats*
[10:48] <majd> i don't get it, i loaded up wine, but do i just downloda the game regularly?
[10:48] <Blissex> yaaar: it is in the repos and is called 'dvdauthor'. There are others.
[10:48] <Shouryuu> Hi, my Ubuntu install seems to be, quirky shall we say. I boot from CD properly, get the ubuntu install screen, press enter in order to install it, I get a message saying that Ubunt has been uzipped and "Ok, booting Kernel". Then, nothing happens. I waited 20 minutes, my HDD wasn't working and neither was my CD drive... Do I need to remove my windows install before installing Ubuntu or could my CD be corrupt/damaged?
[10:48] <crimsun> EloraKun: m mutes or unmutes the selected mixer element
[10:48] <_jason> lukus001, rm
[10:48] <vash_> apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-<your-kernel-version> xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:48] <Vivaldi> i am installing ubuntu for the fifth time, with expert installation. i hope this time i'll be able to login through the graphical tools present in the distro for configuring my system.
[10:48] <vash_> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10
[10:48] <_jason> ubotu, tell lukus001 about cli
[10:48] <jose> buenas
[10:48] <yancheng> Seveas: how to specifice *.java only file?
[10:48] <crimsun> EloraKun: if that doesn't work, amixer sset 'AC97 in' on
[10:48] <Seveas> Vivaldi, the expert install does not install any gui...
[10:48] <menko> Hi, I read that there is a stable version of ubuntu(breezy badger I guess) and a testing version that has newer packages but is also stable. Would it be worth getting the one with newer apps? Or is it too unstable? I don't want to be fixing problems much...
[10:48] <crimsun> EloraKun: (amixer uses on for unmute and off for mute)
[10:48] <mips> crimsun: Thx!
[10:49] <LoRe> Seveas: i looked at it, didn't find anything. and about:config isn't large enough to cover every filetype
[10:49] <Amaranth> Shouryuu: sounds like a bad CD
[10:49] <vash_> Seveas any other solutions to installing ATI drivers
[10:49] <Vivaldi> Seveas, i meant the graphical tool once the system is installed
[10:49] <Amaranth> Shouryuu: either that or it isn't compatible with your machine, but that isn't likely
[10:49] <alekandr> Anyone know a decent client to download torrents in ubuntu, bittorrent doesnt seem to connect, azureus wont connect :(
[10:49] <Seveas> yancheng, find /path/to/source -name '*.java' | xargs grep "Convert Stack to RGB"
[10:49] <me_> is it possible to see who on irc is port scanning me?
[10:49] <me_> I have an ip address
[10:49] <Seveas> Vivaldi, if you install with 'expert' option, no gui is installed at all...
[10:49] <mwe> vash_: linux-restricted-modules-386 or -686 or whatever your kernel is
[10:49] <yancheng> Seveas: COOL! thanks
[10:49] <vash_> what?
[10:49] <Vivaldi> Seveas, false.
[10:50] <Seveas> vash_, install ubuntu-fglrx-$YOURCPU from my repo
[10:50] <omeg> Hi everybody. Is there any kind of key I can keep pressed while 5.10 is starting that will start it without graphical layer? Or maybe a start command in GRUB?
[10:50] <butcherbird> alekandr: change port in azureus?
[10:50] <vash_> no idea how
[10:50] <Shouryuu> amaranth - So my CD must be damaged?
[10:50] <EloraKun> crimsun: SRC out and AC97 are not present in alsamixer. Another program to do that?
[10:50] <Seveas> Vivaldi, the expert option installs ubuntu-base which has no gui. Point.
[10:50] <crimsun> EloraKun: I just gave you the command for amixer
[10:50] <yggdrasil_> how can i tell if my cron cmd is executing
[10:50] <mwe> vash_: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[10:50] <yaaar> Blissex: so....is dvdauthor just a command line tool?
[10:50] <alekandr> butcherbird: how would i go abouts that? and why does it need changing?
[10:50] <Amaranth> Shouryuu: try reburning at a slower speed (4-8x)
[10:50] <Amaranth> Shouryuu: sounds like it, yeah
[10:51] <EloraKun> crimsun: AC97 is my hateful MotherBoard Sound card...
[10:51] <sampan> what should a 'normal' netstat -tl output look like if i have not started any services that listen for outside connections (no ssh, no mail, etc.)?
[10:51] <butcherbird> alekandr: running a firewall or using a router maybe
[10:51] <smok3_> yaaar: yes
[10:51] <vash_> and what do i put in paratnehesis
[10:51] <Blissex> yaaar: yes, but there are frontends for it because it requires a very large number of parameters (creating a properly standard DVD-Video image is not easy).
[10:51] <Shouryuu> amaranth - I tried a 8x, I'll try at 4 then :P Thanks
[10:51] <mwe> vash_: uname -r
[10:51] <alekandr> butcherbird: using a router, but its open, i havent set any ports to be blocked
[10:51] <vash_> says its already newest version
[10:51] <yaaar> Blissex: know the name of a good gtk frontend?
[10:51] <vash_> now what
[10:51] <Blissex> yaaar: no.
[10:51] <crimsun> EloraKun: no, I'm talking about your amixer output, which I presume is from your ... wait, you have two sound cards? Does cat /proc/asound/cards list your Audigy LS as your second?
[10:52] <Vivaldi> damn.. iam getting mad with this distro.. i can't login to configure my system... it asks for passwords: when i try with root or corrent user password it fails saying the password is not correct... when i do this on the terminal , everything is ok , since i can login as root and as simple user.. root is defined in expert installation, so do not say "root is not defined". root isn't even the point here probablt
[10:52] <butcherbird> alekandr: just throwing it out maybe portforward port 6881 to your ip
[10:52] <alekandr> butcherbird: nat/testing says port 6881 which azureus is using is fre
[10:52] <Amaranth> Vivaldi: you can't login with gdm?
[10:52] <Blissex> yaaar: just did a google of "dvdauthor gui" and guess what...
[10:52] <GenneX> what program is good for checking a program for memory leaks ?
[10:52] <Vivaldi> Amaranth, i can login via gdm, yes
[10:52] <Amaranth> GenneX: valgrind
[10:52] <crimsun> GenneX: on what OS?
[10:52] <vash_> now how do i install the ATI drivers the way he was telling me
[10:52] <Amaranth> Vivaldi: then what is the problem?
[10:52] <Seveas> Vivaldi, expert install installs no gui. If you install the gui later sudo is not configured right and all gui tools will refuse to work
[10:52] <yaaar> ok....back where i started. i recognize that transcode and dvdauthor and the like exist.....but unless there's a native frontend that ties it all together so i can rip a dvd without spending an hour at it, then it's pretty much useless to me
[10:52] <Sh4d0x> shadox reporting in
[10:52] <alekandr> butcherbird: yeah, good idea :]  ill set dmz to forward to this localip, from port 6881 to my port 6881 yeah?
[10:53] <yggdrasil_> is this right for my crontab cmd ?  yggdrasil@ubuntu:~$ crontab -u yggdrasil -l
[10:53] <yggdrasil_> * * * * * randwallp
[10:53] <GenneX> Amaranth: Ubuntu 5.10, not sure how to use valgrind though
[10:53] <Seveas> Vivaldi, this is NOT an error, simply a fact you get when doing an expert install
[10:53] <Vivaldi> Amaranth, i meant "login to configure" the system with the graphical tools provided in the distro
[10:53] <Amaranth> GenneX: then you probably don't need it :)
[10:53] <Blissex> yaaar: for example an Ubuntu thread on the subject:
[10:53] <Blissex> yaaar: for example an Ubuntu thread on the subject:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-53243.html
[10:53] <Amaranth> GenneX: you have to know how to program and such for valgrind to be meaningful
[10:53] <dan_> Does anyone use a laptop and have their battery meter or cpu-throttling working?
[10:53] <EloraKun> crimsun: amixer sset does not change their status. And AudigyLS is listed as my first sound card (entry 0).
[10:53] <_jason> dan_, it works here
[10:53] <Seveas> Vivaldi, if you get mad because ubuntu takes security seriously -> use linspire
[10:54] <vash_> seveas how do i install from your repository
[10:54] <dan_> jason, did you do anything special?
[10:54] <GenneX> Amaranth: well if I wrote the program myself, then there wouldn't be a memory leak, but I am not going to go through almost a half a million lines of code seeing if it is all right
[10:54] <progrock> How do i execte a makefile that compiles a simple c++ program?
[10:54] <Seveas> !tell vash_ about seveas
[10:54] <_jason> dan_, no
[10:54] <crimsun> EloraKun: ok, then you'll need to try ALSA 1.0.10. Read the entry that's being sent to you.
[10:54] <EloraKun> crimsun: AudigyLS [Unknown]  at 0xc000 irq 18
[10:54] <crimsun> !tell EloraKun about alsa-source
[10:54] <Seveas> progrock, with make
[10:54] <Seveas> !tell progrock about compiling
[10:54] <omeg> Hi everybody. Is there any kind of key I can keep pressed while 5.10 is starting that will start it without graphical layer? Or maybe a start command in GRUB?
[10:54] <dan_> lucky! I've tried lots of things. Must be crappy laptop BIOS or something!
[10:54] <Vivaldi> Seveas, hmm it's not really clear what you say.. it's not logic. you say expert mode does not install any gui... are you sure? when i _finish_ my installation i can see gdm workinga and can login without doing anything else.. so the gui IS installed..
[10:54] <crimsun> EloraKun: um ok, someone munged my factoid
[10:54] <Amaranth> GenneX: i don't know how to use it either, man valgrind and google would be your best bets
[10:55] <progrock> Seveas: i tried that.. it said command not found
[10:55] <Seveas> Vivaldi, explain to me why you use expert mode
[10:55] <Seveas> progrock, read what ubotu told you
[10:55] <EloraKun> crimsun: thanks for the help
[10:55] <Amaranth> GenneX: and you can't say you could write a 500,000 line program without a single memory leak, that's not possible :P
[10:55] <crimsun> EloraKun: first, enable the universe repository
[10:55] <Vivaldi> Seveas, no matter why.. it's almost a matter of principles at this point..
[10:55] <crimsun> EloraKun: then, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential gcc-3.4 module-assistant
[10:56] <Seveas> Vivaldi, sigh, ok if you don't want to be helped...
[10:56] <Vivaldi> probably none noticed this bug, just becouse none does an expert installation
[10:56] <crimsun> EloraKun: then, wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/alsa-driver/alsa-source_1.0.10-3_all.deb && sudo dpkg -i alsa-source_1.0.10-3_all.deb ; sudo apt-get -f install
[10:56] <Seveas> Vivaldi, yes and they all hit the same situation, I explained to you why and how to solve it...
[10:56] <GenneX> Amaranth: well I didn't say it is possible or not, I am trying to see if there is a way to find any and try to decrease/fix the memory leaks
[10:56] <Vivaldi> Seveas, hmm.. how can i solve it? i didnt notice this part
[10:57] <StudyUrNme> yggdrasil, I think you have to enable cron logging in /etc/syslogd.conf and restart syslogd
[10:57] <yggdrasil_> hmm
[10:57] <yggdrasil_> ill try it
[10:57] <yggdrasil_> i think that this should work, im not sure whats up
[10:58] <vash_> what ones of these do i need
[10:58] <DShepherd> hey
[10:58] <crimsun> EloraKun: completed those steps yet?
[11:00] <Vivaldi> summarizing , things are: i can login via gdm , but i cannot login to use the graphical tools for configuring the system, like packages installation tools. this is simple NOT logic, despite all the security issues that ubuntu may support. and again, these tools do not accept neiither the root password - which IS defined by the expert installation - nor the user password
[11:00] <vash_> How do i use these Seveas
[11:00] <eugman> Hey when I try to open my .js am I supposed to get a box with some information text in it?
[11:00] <LoRe> ah, i've got it ~/.mailcap
[11:00] <SWAT> To set up forwarding I need to do "echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward". If the machine reboots does this setting need to be executed again?
[11:00] <Vivaldi> there must be a bug somewhere
[11:00] <eugman> whoops
[11:00] <eugman> wrong room
[11:00] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Huh?
[11:00] <crimsun> SWAT: yes, unless you place it in /etc/sysctl.conf
[11:00] <torbx> Say, uh... I've got an issue here...
[11:01] <progrock> why do i get permission denied when i try to do apt-get in the terminal?
[11:01] <yggdrasil_> got it i t needed the full path
[11:01] <crimsun> progrock: what apt-get operation?
[11:01] <progrock> install
[11:01] <crimsun> progrock: use sudo
[11:01] <SWAT> crimsun, hmmmm OK, thanks. Might you know how I can check if this setting is set?
[11:01] <mwe> Vivaldi: I didn't use expert install. what you explain sounds odd though
[11:01] <progrock> "sudo apt-get install ..." ?
[11:01] <crimsun> progrock: yes
[11:01] <crimsun> SWAT: currently? Just use cat
[11:02] <Sh4d0x> seveas, can you help me with a prob?
[11:02] <SWAT> crimsun, I thank you :)
[11:02] <torbx> Everytime i start my computer, i have to type sudo nvidia-glx-config enable in order to get my nvidia 6600 card en par with the graphics... Any chance of there being a way for me to get that done automatically? I also have to restart X every time after typing that command...
[11:02] <yggdrasil_> cool gonna chexor out the starttup scripts
[11:03] <Vivaldi> mwe, yeah, it's odd.. this is why i am here
[11:03] <vash_> i have no idea how to use this shit seveas gave me
[11:03] <Vivaldi> try the expert isntallation and see by yourself
[11:03] <Seveas> torbx, nvidia-glx-enable is the answer iirc
[11:03] <torbx> Seveas: sorry, what? I have to do it every day?
[11:03] <Seveas> vash_, then just stick with the fglrx drivers Ubuntu provides - they're just as good, just not the latesst
[11:04] <Vivaldi> mwe, try an expert installation and try to add packages trhough a graphical tool.
[11:04] <mwe> Vivaldi: I'm not questioning what you're experiencing. just wondering too
[11:04] <Telemachus> mwe: same happened to me too with the expert install
[11:04] <MrSunshine> how do i list all files that comes with a package?
[11:04] <Seveas> torbx, you should have to do that only once
[11:04] <Sh4d0x> i'd like to fix my tv out, i opened the wiki page, but it's al little confusing. it sais edit the 'device' part, but there is input device, output device, ... which one should i edit, i'm a bit afraid for crashing the x-server
[11:04] <EloraKun> crimsun: I finished.
[11:04] <vash_> Will these drivers allow me to play 3d games
[11:04] <mcphail> I'm trying to install the breezy i386 cd on my amd64 system. The install halts when trying to install GRUB. Any idea why?
[11:04] <mwe> Telemachus: so did you find a solution other than reinstalling?
[11:04] <Seveas> mwe, the answer is that sudo is misconfigured is done this way
[11:05] <crimsun> EloraKun: ok now, sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source
[11:05] <Seveas> which I already said but hey, no one ever listens to me :)
[11:05] <Vivaldi> mwe, are you able to install packages through a graphical tool with your current installation?
[11:05] <crimsun> EloraKun: choose "yes" for both pnp and debug symbols, then deselect "all" cards and choose only your two drivers
[11:05] <Sh4d0x> seveas, time for an old friends probleme? :D
[11:05] <Telemachus> mwe:  I'm a unix/linux traditionalist so just use a root password, but would use sudo if it worked...but ain't too streessed about getting it working
[11:05] <vash_> my device manager is stuck with almost all unknowns
[11:05] <Blissex> Seveas: you got a girlfriend (as to: no one ever listens to me
[11:05] <crimsun> EloraKun: after that, sudo module-assistant a-i alsa-source
[11:05] <Seveas> Sh4d0x, just ask, anyone who can help will answer
[11:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> vash_: same here, I think that's kinda standard :o
[11:06] <orlandu> Hello - I have a BIG problem! My Win2K installation has died (STOP - inaccessible_boot_device), and I can't repair it from the CD. Ubuntu reads the (NTFS) partition, but each file/directory is displayed as "unknown type" with size "...". My last hope before reinstalling is to format the MBR in case it's a virus, but I want to make sure I can still get back into Ubuntu - if I just fdisk the MBR, will my GRUB boot options remain intact?
[11:06] <Seveas> Blissex, fiancee actually - she's the only one who listens :)
[11:06] <Sh4d0x> i allready, asked, but no one seems to now a possible answer :s
[11:06] <Blissex> Seveas: you are very lucky :-)
[11:06] <smok3_> the more i read, the more iam scared....
[11:06] <Seveas> Blissex, indeed
[11:06] <mwe> Telemachus: ok. So it would probably work with a correct sudoers file then?
[11:06] <_jason> ubotu, tell orlandu about grub
[11:06] <Seveas> Sh4d0x, repeat it please - didn't see it
[11:06] <ideafix> any pedofiles in here ?
[11:06] <Sh4d0x> i'd like to fix my tv out, i opened the wiki page, but it's al little confusing. it sais edit the 'device' part, but there is input device, output device, ... which one should i edit, i'm a bit afraid for crashing the x-server
[11:07] <mwe> Vivaldi: I didn't do the expert install
[11:07] <Seveas> Sh4d0x, which card?
[11:07] <Sh4d0x> nvidia geforcefx 5300
[11:07] <Seveas> Sh4d0x, ah in that case: -ENOCLU
[11:07] <Vivaldi> mwe, that's the point i guess.. but please answer to my question
[11:07] <Seveas> E
[11:07] <Telemachus> mwe: possibly...but would need to compare my own sudoers to a correct sudoers file
[11:07] <vash_> my video card does not show up in Device manager
[11:07] <crimsun> EloraKun: ping me when that completes. I'm away for a few minutes.
[11:07] <torbx> anyone?
[11:08] <mwe> Vivaldi: I didn't do expert install. the gui tools work fine
[11:08] <Sh4d0x> huh, i don't get it, the wikipage sais something about changing, what is it about this -enoclu(e) :$ just typing in a terminal or ...
[11:08] <vash_> $fglrxinfo returns nothing
[11:08] <majd> do i need to install a special driver for my video card before running steam on wine on it?
[11:08] <Seveas> !expert is <reply> No working sudo after expert install? as root: echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers && adduser your_normal_username admin
[11:08] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[11:08] <Seveas> ^-- Vivaldi Telemachus
[11:09] <vash_> so those drivers that come with Linux, arent even installed
[11:09] <Vivaldi> mwe, ok you say they work fine. i suppose they ask for a password..right?
[11:09] <Tired_> Hello.  I was wondering...is there a program available for use in Ubuntu that does roughly the same thing as Microsoft Streets And Trips?
[11:09] <mwe> Vivaldi: yeah. the user password
[11:09] <Seveas> vash_, you need to enable them by editing xorg.conf - that wiki page should tell more
[11:09] <mwe> Vivaldi: if the user is in the admin group or it wont work
[11:09] <EloraKun> !ping crimsun
[11:10] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, EloraKun
[11:10] <vash_> is there a high chance of my PC dying from it?
[11:10] <Seveas> yes, one error and the GUI won't start up...
[11:10] <Telemachus> seveas: that worked....cheers
[11:10] <Seveas> vash_, which card?
[11:10] <wckdkl0wn> whats a good ftp server to use on ubuntu?
[11:10] <EloraKun> crimsun: reconfigured with ca0106
[11:10] <Vivaldi> mwe, you did anything by yourself to add yuour user to the admin group?
[11:10] <Seveas> wckdkl0wn, vsftp
[11:10] <vash_> my device manager doesnt even show the video card, is that ok?
[11:10] <wckdkl0wn> that in the repositories?
[11:10] <ron_> hello all i was wondering if there is a way to convert sid packages to ubuntu bebs?
[11:11] <mwe> Vivaldi: the default user is in the group already
[11:11] <chorse> right, vsftpd is great, quite secure and sexy.
[11:11] <tkroo> can someone help me out with daapd and howl? i'm unable to start daapd because of a howl shared library that can't be opened.
[11:11] <ron_> debs rathar
[11:11] <K_Dallas> Q: on doing dmesg | grep hd, I get hdc: Speed warnings UDMA 3/4/5 is not functional. is that a problem or just satying somehow hdc does not support 345
[11:11] <butcherbird> Tired_: maybe routeplanner-gnome ?
[11:11] <Telemachus> Seveas: cheers dude......thats my sudo working as it should :)
[11:11] <mwe> Vivaldi: you'll probably need to fix sudoers as far as I can tell though
[11:11] <Seveas> K_Dallas, no problem
[11:11] <Tired_> thanks, i'll google that  :)
[11:11] <majd> steam wants me to install mozilla activex
[11:11] <majd> it doesn' t work though
[11:11] <K_Dallas> Seveas, thanks
[11:11] <sorush20> I keep getting this error when I try to install a gpg key http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7113
[11:11] <K_Dallas> Seveas, so i should set udma to 2 for those drives, right?
[11:12] <mwe> is the normal sudoers file used for gksudo?
[11:12] <Sh4d0x> anyway i'll try it the wikipage way, if it failes, i'll gues i format once more?
[11:12] <floo> Hi, can anyone tell me how to get my window buttons to appear on my gnome panel
[11:12] <Sh4d0x> cheers
[11:12] <mcphail> Does anyone know why my install is failing when trying to install GRUB?
[11:12] <Tired_> my mom asked me about Linux on her computer, but an offline map browser with town and route info is a showstopper.
[11:12] <mwe> and kdesu
[11:12] <Seveas> K_Dallas, sounds correct
[11:12] <K_Dallas> thank you
[11:12] <Seveas> sorush20, sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~/.gnupg
[11:12] <CanYouHelpMePlz> i have a question, in the picture on this website: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=33501 i was wondering how i would get the panel on the bottom, with the spaces for each item?
[11:12] <wckdkl0wn> vsftpd??
[11:13] <Seveas> CanYouHelpMePlz, not. It's a mockup - so not really possible
[11:14] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Seveas: oh, ok thanks.. it looked really good.
[11:14] <floo> Hi, can anyone tell me how to get my window buttons to appear on my gnome panel?
[11:14] <torbx> Sorry for bumping this, people... Everytime i start my computer, i have to type sudo nvidia-glx-config enable in order to get my nvidia 6600 card en par with the graphics... Any chance of there being a way for me to get that done automatically? I also have to restart X every time after typing that command...
[11:14] <butcherbird> Tired_: thats the only one im seeing offhand in ubuntu repos
[11:14] <Seveas> floo, rightclick on it - select add to panel - select window list
[11:15] <benplaut> anyone know how to do bash scripting?
[11:15] <Seveas> benplaut, better just ask your question :)
[11:15] <bshumate> benplaut: sure, there's actually a whole channel devoted to it!  (#bash)
[11:15] <majd> how do you move back a directory in the terminal?
[11:15] <majd> cd.. doesn't work
[11:15] <EloraKun> crimsun: Building alsa-source with module-assistant a-i alsa-source... running force-reload... It has reloaded exactly the same modules, and still no sound
[11:16] <_jason> majd, cd .. with a space
[11:16] <Seveas> majd, cd ..
[11:16] <floo> seveas, thank you so much
[11:16] <Tired_> hmm.  it doesn't seem well-reviewed.  i wonder if s&t would run with wine....
[11:17] <sampan> netstat -tl gives me: (localhost.localdo:XXXXX *:* LISTEN; localhost.localdo:XXXXX *:* LISTEN; localhost.localdoma:ipp *:* LISTEN)
[11:17] <majd> winehq says " b. In that directory, run #regsvr32 mozctlx.dll"
[11:17] <sampan> is that normal?
[11:17] <Tired_> well, thank you for your help.  :)
[11:17] <majd> i got to the directory, but typing  #regsvr32 mozctlx.dll doesn't do anything
[11:17] <eugman> hey it wants me to set a mail name for my site that isn't going to be a "real" site with a domain and everything. Does the mail name matter? Should I just put Eugene.Dontreply ?
[11:17] <orlandu> Thanks for the bot prompt, _jason - now armed with super grub disk :)
[11:17] <_jason> orlandu, np
[11:18] <_jason> majd, you aren't actually typing the # are you?
[11:18] <watto> slt tlm
[11:18] <majd> jason i was =\
[11:18] <majd> _jason, it worked without it though
[11:19] <andre> ola alguem ai __
[11:19] <eugman> anyone here know if the mail name matters if you aren't running a site with a domain name?
[11:19] <andre> estou com duvidas do meu tc onde esta a aroba _
[11:20] <_jason> !pt
[11:20] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[11:20] <cvt|kde> these poker sites say they are compatible with linux but there's only an exe
[11:20] <_jason> cvt|kde, lol
[11:20] <majd> wtf? steam loaded but all the buttons don't have text and the login screen is empty
[11:21] <butcherbird> cvt|kde: see linux is already saving you money
[11:21] <majd> wait i think i gotta install a font
[11:21] <CactusWiZaRd> wtf
[11:21] <Crema10> quick question, whats better on an lcd screen, 75 Hz or 60 Hz?
[11:21] <CactusWiZaRd> this ubuntu went nuts
[11:21] <Crema10> isnt 60 Hz better for your eyes?
[11:21] <tkroo> butcherbird cvt|kde: see linux is already saving you money    LOL :)
[11:23] <erUSUL> Crema10, refresh rate does not have any effect on a lcd screen afaik
[11:23] <Crema10> erUSUL: I thought it did.. and i thought one was better on your eyes
[11:23] <smarco> Crema10, most lcds are always running at 60hz internally
[11:23] <EloraKun> Crema10: The LCD should just ignore the 75Hz and stick to 60Hz...
[11:23] <majd> to install a font don't you drop it in the directory?
[11:23] <Crema10> mine is at 75 Hz, by default
[11:23] <Crema10> i want to change it to 60 Hz though
[11:23] <dell500> GNUpod r0x!
[11:24] <Crema10> but i'm not sure which one was better for your eyes
[11:24] <_jason> majd, go to fonts:/// in nautilus
[11:24] <benkong2> I am using knoppix 4.02 to make a disk image over my lan from a laptop. How long should it take?
[11:24] <Sh4d0x> shadox reporting in
[11:24] <smarco> Crema10, why would it make any difference to your eyes?
[11:24] <EloraKun> Crema10: In a LCD it doesn't matter, since there is no screen "mopping"
[11:24] <smok3_> ppl from pal countries would definatelly prefer 75
[11:24] <dibblego> I am trying to set the default boot partition with GRUB using the instructions at http://ubuntuguide.org/#changedefaultosgrub however nothing changes in the boot - is there something I am missing? I have tried a value of 5 and X_sequence for the default entry to no avail
[11:24] <erUSUL> Crema10, there is no refresh-rate on a lcd screen
[11:24] <tristanmike> speaking of refresh rates, how would I change the refresh rate on the Logon Screen??
[11:25] <_jason> !ubuntuguide
[11:25] <ubotu> I guess ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[11:25] <cvt|kde> i don't play poker for money. are there any online poker games for linux?
[11:25] <Crema10> man, i could have swore that years i go i read the refresh rates can affect your eyes
[11:25] <mcphail> Can anyone help me install breezy i386 on my amd64 machine?
[11:25] <EloraKun> Crema10: But only in CRT monitors
[11:25] <smarco> question, im just doing the Install from another distro. is the latest ubuntu called breezy?? i need to give the name to debootstrap
[11:25] <smok3_> Crema10: that goes for crt
[11:25] <Crema10> i think the higher it is, the more it flickers
[11:25] <Sh4d0x> i did change it like the wiki page told me, no x-server errors till yet, but the question is, how do i activate the transmitting?
[11:25] <gnomefreak> cvt|kde, i havent tried but you should beable to use any of the poker sites
[11:25] <Crema10> and the lower it is the less flickering
[11:25] <EloraKun> Crema10: In my CRT I don't use refreshes below 75Hz, 'coz that's hell for my eyes
[11:25] <_jason> dibblego, pastebin your menu.lst file
[11:25] <majd> _jason, it says i don't have permissions to /usr/shared/fonts/truetype/
[11:26] <smok3_> Crema10: close, but the other way
[11:26] <dibblego> _jason, ok one sec
[11:26] <_jason> majd, what does
[11:26] <gnomefreak> smarco, ubuntu5.10 is breezy badger latest stable release
[11:26] <majd> when i drag tahoma.ttf to that directory, it says i don't have permissions
[11:26] <Crema10> k thanks guys
[11:26] <Abecedarian> ubotu tell Abecedarian about mp3
[11:26] <tristanmike> Crema10, refresh rate can affect your eyes if the rate is different than the unnatural light in the room. For instance, the flicker of flourecent lights must match the refresh rate to take the tension off of your eyest
[11:27] <dibblego> _jason, http://rafb.net/paste/results/LOoCFy26.html
[11:27] <smarco> tristanmike, flourescent lights flicker?
[11:27] <tristanmike> smarco, yes
[11:27] <smarco> tristanmike, the lcd backlight for example?
[11:28] <tristanmike> smarco, I mean in an office, the flourescent lights in an office
[11:28] <K_Dallas> Q: on boot up, my ethernet connection is deactivated, each time i have to go to netowrking and activate it manually. where should i set active on boot ? thanks
[11:28] <dibblego> the nature of light is such that it "flickers"
[11:28] <_jason> dibblego, numbering starts at 0, I think you want default set to 4
[11:28] <smarco> tristanmike, i see, i had no idea they do that. but there is also a fluorescent light in the lcd right?
[11:28] <dibblego> _jason, ok thanks, I hadn't tried that yet
[11:28] <tristanmike> smarco, that I don't know, but if it is florescent, then I would assume it also flickers, but I can't be positive
[11:29] <erUSUL> K_Dallas, edit /etc/network/interfaces and put a line like "auto eth0"
[11:29] <_jason> dibblego, I would recommend 0 of course :)
[11:29] <K_Dallas> erUSUL, thanks a lot
[11:29] <sorush20> I did use the command that Seveas gave but still no use..  sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~/.gnupg
[11:29] <smarco> tristanmike, im pretty sure it is because lately someone made a new kind of laptop with led backlights instead of the ordinary light which requires high voltage to ignite. sounds like flourescent light.
[11:29] <Seveas> sorush20, ls -alR ~/.gnupg -> output on the pastebin
[11:30] <K_Dallas> erUSUL, it is already in there!
[11:30] <K_Dallas> erUSUL, this is when i am connected thru the router, otherwise i will use pon dsl-provider
[11:30] <smarco> tristanmike, you know why they flicker. i thought there is a constand amount of electricity flowing causing the gas to emit photons.
[11:30] <Vash> yea, he was wrong about that glx stuff, Ubuntu doesnt come with it and now my os is dead ._.
[11:31] <EloraKun> crimsun: Back?
[11:31] <K_Dallas> erUSUL, at the end of that file there is this one:     pre-up /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up # line maintained by pppoeconf
[11:31] <tristanmike> smarco, led - Light emitting diode, flourescent lights - electricity passed through a gas
[11:31] <sorush20> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7118
[11:31] <Sh4d0x> the wiki page about nvidia tv out need to be changed!!! http://www.gmpf.de/index.php/NVidia:TV-OUT
[11:31] <smarco> tristanmike, yes i know. they said the laptop backlight require a high voltage to get started and therefore i assumed it flourescent light.
[11:32] <tristanmike> Is there a file I can alter to change the refresh rate of the Logon screen, my Logon screen is all distorted and a refresh rate change can fix it
[11:32] <erUSUL> K_Dallas, if the line is in there. there is a problem when bringing up the interface at boot up. i do not know what might it be sorry.
[11:32] <dibblego> _jason, thanks that worked
[11:32] <_jason> dibblego, np
[11:32] <wckdkl0wn> how do i extract a rar file?
[11:33] <K_Dallas> erUSUL, that is all right thanks anyways
[11:33] <majd> i can't figure out how to install tahoma.ttf
[11:33] <gnomefreak> Sh4d0x, that is not a wiki
[11:33] <K_Dallas> wckdkl0wn, use rar or unrar
[11:33] <_jason> wckdkl0wn, install unrar-nonfree, 'unrar x /path/to/rarfile'
[11:33] <tristanmike> smarco, I don't understand why just because it needs a high voltage to get going it would be flourescent, but regardless, we are straying "off-topic"
[11:33] <wckdkl0wn> k ty
[11:33] <smarco> tristanmike, well its the only lightsource i know that requires a high voltage to get started.
[11:33] <smarco> tristanmike, to ignite the gas
[11:34] <tristanmike> ahh ic
[11:34] <josesanch> join #ubuntu-devel
[11:34] <EloraKun> crimsun: Tried using emu10k1 as module, and I'm back to loud static.
[11:34] <majd> i get this error:You do not have permissions to write to this folder.
[11:34] <afief> Why does ubuntu use ESD by default instead of ALSA?
[11:35] <lukus001> My sound's quality has decreased after i restarted it? anyone perticular reson or just a matter of it fixing itself on the next restart?
[11:35] <lukus001> restarted my computer that is
[11:35] <majd> luke: how do you install fonts?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell majd about fonts
[11:36] <lukus001> add them in a folder called fonts
[11:36] <majd> i get this error:You do not have permissions to write to this folder.
[11:36] <lukus001> majd, why dont you go on msn for god sake
[11:37] <timfrost> sorush20, chmod 700  ~/.gnupg;chmod 600 ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf
[11:37] <lukus001> what> you cant create folder majd at all?
[11:37] <Seveas> timfrost, there are ickier things inside that ~/.gnupg of his
[11:37] <timfrost> Seveas, yes those T permissions everywhere
[11:37] <lukus001> majd, in your home folder you want to add a folder called fonts - i might be wrong on that cause i done it ages ago
[11:38] <smarco> tristanmike, just looked it up. all laptops use cold cathode fluresecent lights
[11:39] <lukus001> majd, if you dont go on msn im gonna kick your ass :/
[11:39] <afief> Why does ubuntu use ESD by default instead of ALSA?
[11:40] <yaaar> word
[11:40] <Seveas> yaaar, no, openoffice.org
[11:40] <cvt|kde> why can't two sounds be played at once?
[11:40] <yaaar> anybody else have videos freeze up when you click on them in firefox? it opens in some totem plugin....every once in a while it'll play but usually it loads and freezes on the first frame or two
[11:41] <mwe> afief: esd is a sound daemon. alsa is a sound system. esd uses alsa
[11:41] <afief> What are ESD's advantages over ALSA? (or vice versa)
[11:41] <Seveas> yaaar, totem firefox plugin sucks
[11:41] <mwe> afief: they're two differnt things
[11:41] <yaaar> Seveas: have a recommendation for something better?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> mplayer?
[11:42] <LoPMX> hi, do you get ubuntu/dists/dapper/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  MD5Sum mismatch in apt-get update too?
[11:42] <egon_spengler> afief, ALSA provides the modules so the hardware can talk to the software, and ESD allows two or more devices to use the sound hardware at once
[11:42] <Seveas> yaaar, mozilla-mplayer indeed
[11:42] <yaaar> i followed the directions in the getting started guide for installing the mozilla mplayer plugin....but it still seems to load the vids in totem?
[11:42] <Seveas> you'll have to surgically revoe the totem plugin
[11:42] <Seveas> remove*
[11:43] <lukus001> .msg majd you there?
[11:43] <_jason> ubotu, tell yaaar about replacetotem
[11:43] <lukus001> lol ^
[11:43] <Seveas> sudo rm /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libtotem*
[11:43] <cvt|kde> i've got no sound
[11:43] <majd> luke: go on msn
[11:43] <lukus001> i am
[11:43] <majd> i was tryin to figure it out
[11:43] <majd> i'm on too
[11:43] <yaaar> _jason: thanks
[11:44] <lukus001> argh i think its gone and been gay and removed some of my buddies, stupid gaim
[11:44] <_jason> yaaar, that basically just says what seveas just told you so you don't really have to read it now :)
[11:44] <yaaar> ah ok
[11:44] <Seveas> lukus001, by default it does not show your offline buddies iirc
[11:44] <majd> luke: you know my email?
[11:44] <MrSunshine> anyone know any good programmers editors for linux?
[11:44] <martii> Seveas: is there any source deb file for ejabberd 1.0.0 ?
[11:45] <lukus001> seveas, hes online - and on one of my account with more than 100 contact only display 2 people, online /offline
[11:45] <mwe> MrSunshine: define good
[11:45] <crimsun> EloraKun: snd-emu10k1 is the wrong module
[11:45] <K_Dallas> MrSunshine, what are your demands?
[11:45] <Seveas> martii, no clue
[11:45] <crimsun> EloraKun: you _must_ use snd-ca0106
[11:45] <lukus001> but i thought ym main account was ok
[11:45] <Seveas> MrSunshine, vim of course
[11:45] <yggdrasil_> how can i make my gaim windows transparent ?
[11:45] <gnomefreak> MrSunshine, there are way too many you have to find one you like and go with it  do you want graphical do you want just text editor?
[11:45] <yaaar> gotsta restart firefox...
[11:45] <mwe> MrSunshine: vim is great but confusing if you're new to it I think
[11:46] <bryanl> what do you yall use to view rss feeds under gnome?
[11:46] <Seveas> gnomefreak, whipped or sour?
[11:46] <EloraKun> crimsun: ca0106 just produces static
[11:46] <gnomefreak> lol Seveas
[11:46] <Seveas> bryanl, liferea
[11:46] <erUSUL> MrSunshine, emacs of course
[11:46] <dibblego> Sage plugin to Firefox
[11:46] <crimsun> EloraKun: and /proc/asound/version reports 1.0.10?
[11:47] <EloraKun> crimsun: I've been trying some modules I found around...
[11:47] <MrSunshine> Seveas, vim in ubuntu does not come with highlights it seems :P .. atleast not enabled
[11:47] <MrSunshine> usaly use it
[11:47] <Seveas> MrSunshine, :syntax on
[11:47] <gnomefreak> MrSunshine,  nm he said it :(
[11:47] <Seveas> it's not on by default iirc
[11:47] <MrSunshine> haha :P
[11:47] <MrSunshine> thanks :P
[11:47] <EloraKun> crimsun: /proc/asound/version is not a file in my system
[11:48] <crimsun> EloraKun: ...
[11:48] <crimsun> EloraKun: do you have ALSA loaded?
[11:48] <crimsun> EloraKun: lsmod|grep ^snd_ca0106
[11:48] <sorush20> is this how you refresh the gnome menu sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[11:48] <Seveas> sorush20, no, that restarts X completely
[11:49] <gnomefreak> sorush20, that is how you restart gnome
[11:49] <Seveas> sorush20, to refresh the menu: pkill -HUP gnome-panel
[11:49] <majd> damn
[11:50] <majd> i can't close that one big thing
[11:50] <majd> the "X" doesn't show
[11:50] <majd> i get a rectangle
[11:50] <majd> that doesn't do anything
[11:50] <majd> (in steam...running wine)
[11:50] <EloraKun> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7120
[11:50] <rickard> I'm having trouble installing python-dev. When I type sudo apt-get install python2.4-dev it says: python2.4-dev: Depends: python2.4 (= 2.4.1-0) but 2.4.2-1 is to be installed. Does it mean that I need the earlier version of python to get it to work?
[11:50] <_jason> majd, alt+F2, xkill, click on the big thing
[11:51] <dieffel> Hi! How do I install a "preemptive" i686 kernel in Ubuntu? The kernel like the one in Dapper.
[11:51] <yggdrasil_> how can i make my gaim windows transparent ?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> rickard, what version of ubuntu?
[11:51] <EloraKun> crimsun: I did  /etc/init.d/alsa force-reload
[11:51] <rickard> gnomefreak, 5.10 I think
[11:51] <dieffel> it's 5.10 breezy I like to install the "preemtive" kernel in.
[11:52] <majd> wine keeps freezing
[11:52] <mwe> yggdrasil_: I think you need to configure overall traspareny. I saw something in the forums. didn't try it myself though
[11:52] <yggdrasil_> mwe thanks
[11:52] <yggdrasil_> im using um
[11:52] <yggdrasil_> fluxbox
[11:52] <gnomefreak> rickard, you should already have python2.4 :(
[11:52] <rickard> gnomefreak, I have it installed
[11:53] <rickard> gnomefreak, but I don't seem to be able to install dev package
[11:53] <majd> wine keeps freezing
[11:53] <majd> wtf
[11:53] <cvt|kde> what's it like to have sound on videos?
[11:53] <gnomefreak> rickard, what happens when you try to install python-dev?
[11:53] <rickard> gnomefreak, the problem is that I cannot run sudo python setup.py install
[11:53] <EloraKun> yggdrasil_: Using KDE, installing Composite, buying a hell of a HW Acc Video Card and praying to a couple of Gods would be adviced for transparency
[11:53] <rickard> gnomefreak, it says: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:53] <rickard>   python2.4-dev: Depends: python2.4 (= 2.4.1-0) but 2.4.2-1 is to be installed
[11:54] <dieffel> Hi! How do I install a "preemptive" i686 kernel in Ubuntu 5.10 Breezy? The kernel like the one in Dapper.
[11:54] <rickard> gnomefreak, and sudo apt-get install python2.4
[11:54] <rickard>  tells me that I got the latest version
[11:55] <yggdrasil_> elorakun hahah
[11:55] <LordMelkor> does anyone know how to update DRI drivers
[11:55] <crimsun> EloraKun: and it reports 1.0.10, correct?
[11:55] <yggdrasil_> well ive got most of the other windows transparent
[11:55] <yggdrasil_> like xchat and my terminal
[11:55] <majd> it says i can fix the problem by running in offline mode, but how do i run it on offline mode?
[11:56] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm rickard
[11:56] <EloraKun> crimsun: What should report 1.0.10 correct?
[11:56] <LordMelkor> does anyone know how to update DRI drivers???
[11:56] <Trent> how do you unmount a drive?
[11:56] <rickard> gnomefreak, I read that to be able to install python programs with python setup.py install you need the dev pack
[11:56] <crimsun> EloraKun: cat /proc/asound/version
[11:56] <EloraKun> crimsun: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10
[11:56] <rickard> gnomefreak, cus now I get this error:
[11:56] <rickard> sudo python setup.py install
[11:56] <rickard> running install
[11:56] <rickard> error: invalid Python installation: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)
[11:57] <gnomefreak> rickard,  please dont paste in here
[11:57] <rickard> gnomefreak, okey, sorry
[11:57] <crimsun> EloraKun: amixer output, please
[11:57] <majd> it says i can fix the problem by running in offline mode, but how do i run it on offline mode?
[11:58] <rickard> gnomefreak, so you have any idea what might be wrong?
[11:58] <gnomefreak> rickard, im not sure how your goint to get the dev if they didnt use it as depends or added one for those deps
[11:58] <cvt|kde> how can the sound system fail?
[11:58] <crimsun> EloraKun: also, did you pastebin lspci -nv output?
[11:58] <revmoo> guys I need help, xmms has randomly decided to stop working on my machine, I get Segmentation fault when i try and run it, reinstalling has not helped
[11:58] <rickard> gnomefreak, okey, thanks anyway
[11:59] <Stork> OMFG
[11:59] <Stork> THIS SUCKS
[11:59] <gnomefreak> rickard, do me a favor run apt-cache policy python
[11:59] <Stork> quake4 keeps crashing and breaking my fucking computer
[11:59] <madewokherd> anyone know off-hand what package the C man pages are in?
[11:59] <tristanmike> Stork, language check :)
[11:59] <pwn__> What are the advantages and disadvantages with: "1 inode per 4096bytes" , "1 inode per 2048bytes" and "1 inode per 1024"?
[11:59] <crimsun> madewokherd: manpages-dev
[11:59] <rickard> gnomefreak, where can I paste tha output?
[11:59] <Stork> whatever
[11:59] <madewokherd> thanks
[11:59] <gnomefreak> rickard, just tell me what installed says
[12:00] <mwe> Stork: that's expensive, buying a new computer everytime you try running quake4
[12:00] <crimsun> revmoo: cat /proc/asound/cards