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duckdownCan someone help me out, I'm having a problem configuring something and it has to do with 'aclocal' ... Here is the paste:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/711912:03
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Vivaldiis kde 3.5 faster than kde 3.4?12:06
sorush20is there a way to make kde stop showing gnome apps int kde12:07
sorush203.5 yes I think so.12:07
sampansorush20 only way i know of is to edit the kmenu and delete the gnome entries12:07
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sorush20I think there should be a button .. to just switch them on and off..12:10
seashell11sorush20 the only way i have ever found is like sampan said, edit the kmenu12:11
sorush20is there an interactive feature request for ubuntu?12:12
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sampansorush20  i just moved them into submenus -- that way i don't have to see them, except when i want to, and yet i can still access them via the kmenu12:13
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indowhere can I find my icons installed with themes?12:27
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nlindbladindo: /usr/share/icons12:27
indothank you12:27
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optotronis there a log created after last boot?12:30
Lord_Athurhi all12:30
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darkheartoptotron: dmesg?12:30
optotronthanx12:31
optotronthats it !12:31
darkheartnp =)12:31
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neoncodeHow do I get my mic to work?12:34
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Lord_Athurmic?12:36
Lord_Athurwhat's that?12:36
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neoncodemicrophone12:38
Lord_Athur:O12:39
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Steven_Mhi all12:46
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leafwcan anyone point to documentation on how to mount an hfsplus partion readonly (up to here no problem) but overriding the permissions on that partition?12:47
redguyleafw: man mount ?12:49
Steven_Mleafw: do you mean you want to write to hfs+ partition under linux?12:49
leafwredguy: setting the gid and the uid didn't help12:49
leafwin the fstab that is12:49
naliothleafw: paste your current fstab, please12:49
leafwman mount didn't help, therefore I'm here12:49
redguyleafw: elaborate on "didn't help"12:50
KnowerrorsAnyone know how to make firefox have the same human mouse pointer theme as the rest of the programs?12:50
debbiehow do I get KDM as my default Logon screen?12:50
naliothdebbie: in a konsole, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" and choose the one you want12:51
leafwredguy: fstab entry for the macosx partition:  /dev/hda4       /mnt/macosx     hfsplus ro,user,uid=500,gid=501 0       012:51
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leafwredguy: "didn't help" in that setting the proper uid and gid didn't help.12:51
debbienalioth: Reloading K Display Manager configuration...kdm not running.12:51
leafwI umount/mount again, and still permissions are not overriden12:51
naliothleafw: here ya go, modify as needed #/dev/sda3      /mnt/macosx     hfsplus rw,auto,umask=000       0       012:52
leafwumask? let me read about that one12:52
leafwthanks nalioth12:52
naliothdebbie: you have "kubuntu-desktop" installed, yes?12:52
redguyleafw: :-) and who is the owner? setting gid and uid won't change permissions, it will set the owner only12:52
leafwredguy: right, me.12:52
debbielet me triple check12:52
naliothleafw: i'd not mount hfs at all12:52
Steven_Mleafw: someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think writing to an hfs+ partition is supported by the kernel.12:52
leafwnalioth: readonly.12:53
leafwSteven_M: I never had any intention to write to the hfs.12:53
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leafwI just want to navigate it in full without sudoing12:53
naliothleafw: i'd not mount it at all, RO or RW, but that's my personal opinion12:53
redguyodd, no hfs options in my man mount :/12:53
debbienalioth: yes, I have the package "kubuntu-desktop" installed12:53
leafwnalioth: I've been mounting ro everyday for 5 months, no problem so far.12:53
naliothdebbie: then in a konsole, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" and choose kdm12:54
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naliothleafw: then have fun12:54
Steven_Mleafw: Oh, sorry12:54
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debbienalioth: hmm, looks like it may have worked, I'm logging out to try again, thanks12:55
sampannalioth  can Mac OSX read/write to linux ext2 or 3 or reiserfs?12:55
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naliothsampan: yes it can to ext2/312:55
leafwsampan: yes, there's a .kext for that12:56
sampanthanks :)  that would make a dual boot mac even more attractive -- only have to store the documents on one partition12:56
leafwin the form of a Preferences Pane12:56
naliothsampan: yes, you need to d/l the thing from versiontracker.com12:56
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sampancool :)  now if apple will just put out a 13" of the net intel laptop i'll be set!12:57
sampans/net/new12:57
eldnarHi nalioth, I wanted to say thank you for building the gaim-irchelper package for me yesterday... Granted it didn't work as it advertised, but thank you nonetheless.12:57
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naliotheldnar: i did not build anything. if you want a program open your console and type "apt-cache search $PROGRAM_NAME"12:58
leafwnalioth: the umask setitng in the fstab didn't help in letting a user navigate "root" macosx folders.12:58
naliotheldnar: or visit packages.ubuntu.com12:58
naliothleafw: you have no business in 'root' OSX folders12:59
leafwnalioth: true, but I do in my own home dirs, which are 70012:59
naliothleafw: that new setting should have let you in12:59
leafwit didn't.12:59
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naliothit worked for me (in RW) until it ate my partition12:59
leafwnalioth: in 'ro', I'm using.12:59
naliothleafw: it should make no difference RO or RW01:00
leafwnalioth: neither the proper gid= and uid= help either01:00
leafwI just don't get it, the man mount is wrong or the behavior has changed.01:01
naliothleafw: that line i pasted you, worked fine for me01:01
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leafwnalioth: sure :) but it doesn't do the job here.01:01
debbiethanx nalioth :)01:01
naliothleafw: don't know what to tell ya01:01
naliothdebbie: np, share the love (help someone else)01:02
debbie:)01:02
debbiegotta go now, take care01:02
leafwnalioth: what about this one: how to stop the sudo command from cding to the root home dir, and staying where the user is.01:02
leafwnalioth: again the man sudo didn't help.01:02
naliothleafw: i have no clue, i always "sudo $COMMAND"01:02
leafwnalioth: well, I use sudo where fstab fails.01:03
leafwnalioth: but then that inconvenience.01:03
leafwby the way any news on the KDE 3.5 for powerpc? Any official release yet ?01:05
naliothleafw: there was a guy working on packages (had the whole repo up for ppc) but they disappeared offline about 3 days ago01:06
leafwnalioth: I saw it, but I didn't want to get them -not official.01:06
naliothleafw: kde 3.5 is not official for anyone in ubuntu land01:06
leafwnalioth: at least x86 and amd64 have a package on the ubuntu repos01:07
naliothleafw: they do?01:07
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nalioth!info kdebase01:07
leafwit says so in the main kubuntu.org webpage01:07
ubotukdebase: (base components from the official KDE release), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-0ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 32 kB, Installed size: 72 kB01:07
naliothsorry, leafw01:07
leafw?01:08
nalioththe kubuntu.org packages are the same quality as official repos, but they are not official01:08
leafwat least they are released by the guys who make the CDs. That's all I meant.01:08
KnowerrorsAnyone recommend best looking fonts for kde?  Im currently using Bitstream01:09
naliothyes, they are quality and will not destroy your system.  but they still have issues01:09
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cyneanyone know why i have blackdown java installed, and i have the libjavaplugin_oji.so in my /usr/bin/mozilla/plugins and java still isn't working in Konqueror01:13
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naliothcyne: blackdown is an older java01:15
naliothubotu: tell cyne about java01:15
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cyneoh?01:16
cyneso blackdown java is not recommended then01:16
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naliothno, it's an older version. if it works for you, great. if not, there are alternatives01:17
naliothubotu: tell cyne about javadebs01:17
cynethankyou :)01:18
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ranceI had mysql-server-4.1 installed till I found out that kubuntu doesnt support the mysqli extensions required to connect to a 4.1 or newer mysql server.  I uninstalled all the mysql packages, and I reinstalled them with the old versions of themselves.  Now I get an error when I try to run mysql  syslog seems to say that the database that Im connecting to is the one from the new install, but I never used it, so there is nothing the01:20
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rancehow do I get rid of the old db, so I can reinstall?01:20
leafwby the way, is anyone experiencing kaffeine crashes when closing konqueror (in powerpc breezy), followed by kaffeine running at 100% CPU hanged on the background?01:21
Psi-JackHmm, dangit, ever since I upgraded my arts, it's been crashing with a sig11.. :/01:21
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Steven_MI'm running brezzy badger and I'm wonderinng, is there any way of me getting the recovery mode to ask for my sudo password? At the moment when ever I select recovery mode in my bootloader, Linux boots and gives me immediate root access with no authentication. I don't like that at all.01:24
naliothSteven_M: that is what "recovery mode" is01:25
redguySteven_M: you can restrict some entries from the boot menu in /boot/grub/menu.lst01:26
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sampanbut if someone has physical access to the box, it's always gonna be insecure01:26
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redguySteven_M: so that to choose certain entries you would have to supply a password01:26
redguytrue01:26
redguyas they say physical access == root access01:27
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Steven_MExcellent redguy, thank you :-)01:28
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sorush20how do I get extra keys on my keyboard to work?01:28
KnowerrorsHow do you install a cursor theme?  I just downloaded this one http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=28281, and it just has a folder with many files, when I click install theme and browse to that folder, there isn't just one theme file01:29
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nalioth!themes01:31
naliothnot another one01:31
naliothubotu: tell Knowerrors about themes01:31
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Steven_Mredguy and nalioth I have a follow up question.01:33
Knowerrorsnalioth: that didn't help, thx though01:33
naliothKnowerrors: i'm not much of a theme guy, kkathman might know01:34
naliothSteven_M: your question?01:34
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Knowerrorskkathman: can ya help with installing a mouse theme?01:34
kkathmanI01:34
kkathmanI will try01:34
kkathmank-menu - system settings01:35
kkathmanmouse01:35
kkathmanhehe01:35
kkathmanunless you have to compile it first01:35
kkathmanKnowerrors: did you get the theme from like kde-org??01:35
chavoKnowerrors, try copying the directory to ~/.icons01:36
kkathmanchavo!! LTNS!!01:36
chavohello kkathman!01:36
Knowerrorskkathman: the theme is http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2828101:36
chavobeen gone for a couple of months01:37
Steven_MIs there a way for a nasty hacker to somehow get into root access remotely by exploiting the recovery mode?01:37
naliothSteven_M: nope.01:37
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Knowerrorsits just a folder full of files that say mouse cursor01:37
kkathmanKnowerrors: did you click on the "how to install" on that page :)01:37
Knowerrorsyup01:37
kkathmanthat tells you everything01:37
Steven_Mnalioth: Great :-)01:38
kkathmanKnowerrors: control center = kcontrol01:38
Knowerrorskkathman: "Select the cursor theme archive" that doesn't work, I clicked on the tar/bz2 file, no good01:38
Knowerrorskkathman: I know where to go to install new themes in kcontrol01:38
kkathmanohh no you'll have to untar it I imagine01:38
KnowerrorsI did untar it01:38
Knowerrorsit just shows one folder called cursors01:39
kkathmanohh sorry Knowerrors I didnt mean to insult :(01:39
Knowerrorsnoprob ;)01:39
Knowerrorsits like theres something missing from the archive, I may have to do what chavo said and manually copy the files over01:39
kkathmanIm not 100% sure where those mouse themes are exactly...but maybe in .kde??01:40
kkathmanyah I'd agree with that01:40
kkathmanI wonder if its icons...it might be!01:40
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chavoKnowerrors, put it in a parent directory called Jimmac and then put that in ~/.icons01:40
kkathmanthere ya go01:40
Psi-JackOkay, When I upgraded my arts package, it now just sig11's.. :/01:40
Knowerrorschavo: thx :)01:44
chavonp, that's the them I use also :)01:44
Knowerrorsbtw, Im using this them instead of Human, because the icons are the same, and work in all programs including FF, or so I read01:44
Knowerrorscool01:44
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Steven_MNow for a slightly different question. Does enabling the root account still permanently damage the gui admin tools, or has that been fixed in recent updates? I don't like enabled root accounts, I'm simply curious.01:46
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Psi-JackIt's the arts from the kubuntu packages for 3.5.. Anyone had any problems using that repository for KDE 3.5?01:47
naliothubotu: tell Steven_M about root01:47
Knowerrorschavo: "~/.icons" thats in my user home right?01:47
chavoKnowerrors, yes01:47
naliothSteven_M: enabling a root account is not advised. please read carefully the info ubotu sent you01:47
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chavoor /usr/share/icons to install for all users01:47
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hyperactivecrondSteven_M: run this command from the terminal: 'echo 'wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo' ' *don't use the 1st set of ' 's, go to the site displayed01:48
AudioMoveAn error occurred while loading media:/hdd:01:49
AudioMoveThe file or folder media:/hdd does not exist.01:49
Steven_Mok thanks nalioth :-)01:49
AudioMovei get the above error everytime i insert s cd/dvd, i such the forums and google but no look, anyone help?01:50
Psi-JackAha! It's akode!01:50
Knowerrorschavo: I didn't have a /.icons in my home, so I just stuck it in /usr/share/icons... installed now, just gotta restart kde01:51
fdelacruzgud day01:52
naliothKnowerrors: if you dont have one, make one01:52
Knowerrorsits cool, might as well have same icon theme for admin01:54
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cynecan anyone recommend good Kubuntu software for video editing/conversion?01:54
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Psi-Jackcyne: You mean, Linux software?01:58
hyperactivecrondheh01:58
cynePsi-Jack: yes01:59
naliothcyne: there are many, in a console type "apt-cache search video"01:59
naliothcyne: or search packages.ubuntu.com01:59
cynethankyou :)01:59
arrinmurrcyne: cinelerra for editing, mencoder for conversion01:59
naliotharrinmurr: not transcode?02:00
arrinmurrnalioth: i can't say about that, haven't really used02:00
naliothcyne: there are many02:02
Knowerrorscyne: easier to search using Adept, or Synaptic, and search by description02:05
Psi-JackHmm..02:05
Knowerrorsffmpeg is great, don't know if it has a gui frontend though02:05
Psi-JackCurious. Is there anything I have to do, to get arts to run in realtime mode? Because looking at it's nicelevel, just turning on realtime mode isn't doing it.02:06
naliothKnowerrors: several proggies call ffmpeg02:06
Knowerrorscyne: ffmpeg based is best linux video converting encoding program IMHO02:07
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Knowerrorsnalioth: what progs w/ gui front call ffmpeg?  I can't find any in the repos02:12
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Psi-JackWell, acidrip can use libavc02:17
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Psi-JackHmmm. Speaking of which..02:25
Psi-Jacklibavc could in fact, encode to vorbis, could it not?02:25
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Knowerrorschavo: well, my icon theme is fine for everything except Firefox, there the mouse pointer is still default kde, any ideas?02:34
HobbseeKnowerrors: i thought you fixed this02:34
Hobbsee!+firefox02:35
ubotufirefox is, like, a Free Software web browser that supports extensions and is gaining popularity by the hour. Developed by the Mozilla Foundation. For firefox 1.5, look at !firefox1.5  To use your mouse theme in firefox, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7896102:35
HobbseeKnowerrors: ^02:35
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KnowerrorsHobbsee: I thought I fixed it too :(  , thx02:36
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rancewell I ran in to my first real kubuntu problem02:44
rancethere isnt a php_mysqli package available02:45
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naliothubotu: tell rance about lamp02:46
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sebastianhelp02:50
sebastianjust installed kubuntu breezy02:50
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fridgehelp02:51
fridgewith what?02:51
kkathmanwassup sebastian ?02:51
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kkathmanwelcome back btw02:51
sebastianwant to: install gaim, firefox, soulseek, upgrade to whatever i have to, download a codec to be able to play wma and mp3s on amarok and this media play xmm02:51
sebastianand i dont konw how to02:51
sebastianit wnet well, installling windows and kubuntu02:51
kkathmansebastian: to start gaim should be on your system I think02:52
kkathmanif not02:52
kkathmansebastian: do a sudo apt-get install gaim02:52
Psi-JackHmm.. What package would mkvmerge be in?02:52
HobbseePsi-Jack: try apt-cache search mkvmerge02:53
fridgemkvtoolnix:02:53
sebastianfrom konsole?02:53
kkathmanyes02:53
naliothPsi-Jack: you'll probably have to build for that one02:53
Psi-JackHmm, cause I don't see it in apt-cache.02:54
fridgeit's in universe02:54
Psi-JackWell, I have universe in my sources.02:54
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fridgeuniverse/dapper02:55
sebastianthe graphics are breaky02:55
sebastianodd02:55
kkathman0?02:55
sebastiani installed this new kubuntu and the graphics are flaky and breaky02:55
kkathmanhmm02:55
sebastianlike the top of a window02:55
sebastianit will look striped with transparences02:55
Psi-JackDoing a search for even mkv, results nothing. :/02:55
sebastiankkathman: now what do i do?02:58
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Psi-Jackfridge: You say mkvmerge is in mkvtoolnix?02:58
sebastianfirefox02:58
fridgePsi-Jack: yes02:58
kkathmanwow that sounds very wierd on the graphics stuff02:58
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Psi-Jackfridge: But, I'm not seeing it anywhere..02:59
fridgeI'm running Dapper, it's probably in Dapper but not breezy02:59
fridgeif you're also running dapper, then I don't know what to suggest03:00
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Psi-JackAhhh.. Maybe it'll be backports? Which I doubt, too, but hey..03:00
fridgedist-upgrade, you know you want to ;)03:00
sebastiankkathman: DONT GO03:00
sebastianhelp03:00
Psi-Jackfridge: Heh. Not just for mkv, I don't.. :p03:01
Psi-JackHow is K/Ubuntu sid, anyway? Debian's sid is usually horribly broken.03:01
fridgesebastian: I've had strange video artifacts when initially running ubuntu, it was running the ati driver, I changed it to radeon and everything was OK03:01
Psi-Jackfridge:  you use the radeon driver, instead of ati?03:02
fridgeyeah, but that problem is particular to my configuration03:02
fridgeI'm just saying maybe it is worth trying a different X driver if one is available03:03
Psi-JackHmm.. I have another system running with an ATI Radeon AiW 8500 DV, and I was suggested to use the fglrx driver.03:03
fridgePsi-Jack: less broken in comparison -- I've not had any issues really03:03
naliothPsi-Jack: we dont have sarge, sid, etch or other, we have a release and a developement version. we release every 6 months03:05
sebastianfride: what?03:06
sebastianfridge: how do i fix it?03:07
Psi-Jacknalioth: Yes, but I did read, Ubuntu does use the sid name for the development version. :p03:07
HobbseePsi-Jack: where'd you read that?  it doesnt use sid at all, anywhere that i've seen03:08
Psi-JackBut, for me to dist-upgrade to dapper, would also potentially break the other repos I use.03:08
naliothPsi-Jack: we do? i thought we called it dapper03:08
Hobbseethe most it occasoinally uses is "unstable" which it shouldnt03:08
Hobbseeit's called dapper, especially in all the package names, and all that03:08
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sebastiansudo apt-get install firefox ?03:09
sebastianwill that install firefox?03:09
sebastianif i type that03:09
crimsunyep03:09
naliothsebastian: i suspect it's mozilla-firefox03:09
naliotheither or03:10
_ericdid the kubuntu distro replace the kde login screen with their own?03:11
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Hobbsee_eric: yes, kdm instead of gdm03:11
_ericwell, the KDE settings for Login Manager don't work03:12
_ericnone of them affect the weird kubuntu login dialog03:12
Psi-JackAha!03:14
Psi-JackI found a mkvtoolnix apt repo for breazy.03:14
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naliothPsi-Jack: is it official?03:17
Psi-JackOfficial? From Matroska, yes.03:17
sebastianok03:17
sebastiannow i need to get a player03:17
sebastianthat will play03:17
naliothPsi-Jack: well, i suggest enabling their source repo and building it yourself03:17
Psi-Jackhttp://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/downloads.html03:17
sebastianw4a, mp3, avi, mpeg, wma, wav files03:17
sebastiansuggestions03:18
naliothPsi-Jack: my suggestion would be to enable the deb-src for etch and have your local apt build the pkg03:18
naliothsebastian: vlc03:18
Psi-Jackvlc, kaffeiene, and mplayer. Pick one. :)03:19
Psi-JackOr all.03:19
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sebastianwhich is best?03:20
sebastianor more like03:20
sebastianeasiest03:20
sebastianloads faster03:20
Psi-Jack"best" is your own opinion.03:20
sebastianall graphical03:20
Psi-JackTry them all.03:20
sebastianbased on those03:20
Psi-JackUse them how you choose.03:20
sebastiansudo apt-get install vlc ?03:21
naliothubotu: tell sebastian about multimedia03:21
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Steven_Mpsi-jack: can you get vlc off of the defualt ubuntu repository?03:23
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Psi-JackUmm.. I don't know, actually. I don't think so..03:24
Psi-JackI think it's either in universe or multiverse. But, I honestly don't remember.03:24
Steven_Mok03:25
jinhey is this the room we ask about kubuntu stuff?03:25
crimsunvlc is in universe. I maintain it.03:25
sebastianso how do i get vlc03:25
jinlike problems, etc03:25
Psi-Jackjin: Nope. It's just #kubuntu for no reason. :)03:25
Steven_Mthanks crimsun ::)03:26
jinuhhhh yah, just wondering cause it said something abt that in the tutorial thing03:26
naliothsebastian: it's in your private message window03:26
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naliothjin: ask us a question we can answer please03:26
jinim new to linux, but need some help, done with the accursed microsoft03:26
Hobbsee!+ask03:27
ubotufrom memory, ask is Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important. Better questions more frequently yield better answer. Keeping the question in one line makes it easier to read. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html03:27
jinaight, so i need skype, how the hell do i do that with this thing03:27
Hobbsee!skype03:27
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/03:27
Psi-Jackjin: Also note, there's no need to use vulgarities, here.03:27
sebastiannalioth: so what is vlc?03:27
crimsun!info vlc03:28
sebastianand most importantly what do i do to get it03:28
ubotuvlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB03:28
naliothsebastian: vlc is "videolan client"03:28
sebastianok,03:28
naliothsebastian: it will play 99% of the audio/video out there03:28
sebastianhow do i ge tit03:28
crimsunalthough you probably want the breezy-backports version03:28
naliothsebastian: read the URL ubotu sent you03:28
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sampancrimsun, is the backports 0.8.4 ?03:29
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crimsunsampan: I believe so03:29
sampank, thanks :)03:29
Black_Chaosanyone here have any experience with xming and putty?03:29
sebastiananyway03:30
sebastiani will be back later03:30
sebastianhave to swtich back to windows03:30
fdelacruzme putty I used to manage my linux box from my windows client03:33
Psi-JackI'm assuming sebastian is dual-booting from the same comp.03:34
Black_ChaosI'm trying to find out if I can get full X11 access from windows03:34
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Psi-JackBlack_Chaos: WIth an X11 server for windows, sure.03:35
JoshRRPardon the newbie question: if I have installed 5.10, how do I upgrade to the DapperFlight 2 version?  Is this done through Adept?  If so, what do I look for?03:35
Hobbsee!upgrade2dapper03:36
ubotuHobbsee: Are you on ritalin?03:36
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Black_ChaosThats what xming is for. I can open individual programs. Like kwrite will open in a window. What I'm wondering is how/if I can get like full access to KDE.03:37
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Psi-JackWell, umm.. Doesn't KDE's "desktop sharing" use an implementation of the VNC protocol? If so, just figure out how to use that, and blam!03:38
Black_Chaoshmmm03:39
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jinaight, so i need skype, how the hell do i do that with this thing?  or a place where i can get codecs?03:52
jinlike an installable codec pack perhaps?03:53
jinoops, nvm the skype bit there03:53
naliothubotu: tell jin about multimedia03:53
jinyes plz do, confusing as hell03:54
jingot skype to work though03:54
jinnow i need an end all app for my vast media03:55
seadog409hey nalioth is this ubotu some automatic thing or what? or why are people always asking ubotu to tell someone about something?03:55
naliothubotu: tell seadog409 about yourself03:56
jinand one more thing, hows dual monitor display with this os... any good?03:57
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seadog409thanks nalioth now some thing are making more sense03:57
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smacky_wolfHey all, could someone tell me where the apt repositories are?04:09
Psi-Jack!source-o-matic04:10
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic04:10
seadog409/etc/apt/sources.list04:10
smacky_wolfThanks, guys.04:10
seadog409smacky_wolf no prob, thats what we are here for :-)04:12
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smacky_wolfYay! It works! Kubuntu = win. FOr some reason, I couldn't do a Debian Sarge install, so I tried Kubuntu. And it won.04:15
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lapducky_is there a channel specifically for Dapper *support* issues?04:19
Steven_Mcan *ubuntu users install programs directly off of the debian repository?04:23
noirequuslapducky_: nope. since dapper is prerelease04:24
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fdelacruzguys! just want to ask howcome I couldn't save may files that I access from other machines, it tells that the files is read only,04:25
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Steven_Mubotu: tell Steven_M about root04:27
smacky_wolfMmm. Is there any easy way to upgrade my kernel with apt or some such? I'm quite new to this whole affair.04:28
smacky_wolf!kernel04:28
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smacky_wolfCould someone point me towards a guide for upgrading the kernel?04:31
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bosseKlockan r mycket som bara den nu har jag kollat den hr ocks.....!!!04:33
Psi-JackUmm.. English? :)04:34
bosseJust a little04:34
bosseIm tired now!!!!!04:35
arrinmurr!se04:35
ubotuarrinmurr: Did you get hit by a windmill?04:35
bosseI dont know what do you mean????04:35
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noirequusbosse: join #ubuntu-se for swedish04:35
seadog409lol ubotu sure comes up with quite the things to say04:36
fdelacruzsmacky_wolf, the easiest way to upgrade your kernel is to find the suitable and latest kernel that is under rpm, once you download it you run that packages by this rpm -Uvh packagesname.rpm04:36
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bosseOK Ubuntu se OK04:36
noirequusfdelacruz: that is highly not advisable04:36
Psi-Jackfdelacruz: RPm?04:36
bosseBye !04:36
Psi-Jackfdelacruz: Why would you recommend such rubbish here?04:37
noirequusfdelacruz: that is so wrong, i don't know what else to say.04:37
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Psi-JackI know what to say. I'm just restraining myself from saying it.04:37
fdelacruzsorry guys but thats the only way that I know04:37
Psi-Jackfdelacruz: Ever thought about apt?04:38
fdelacruzand its work for me04:38
naliothfdelacruz: please don't advise using non ubuntu software here04:38
Psi-Jacknalioth: Rephrase that, to non-ubuntu-packaged software. :)04:38
fdelacruznalioth Im sorry, i forgot04:38
naliothfdelacruz: i do a lot of things that would make ubuntu devs cringe, but i don't advise those practices here.04:38
fdelacruzsorry again guys04:39
fdelacruzI overlook the channel I thought Im on the redhat channel04:40
fdelacruzsorry again04:40
arrinmurrheh, i don't think it's that horrible mistake ;)04:41
fdelacruzso what is the best practice in updating the kernel of "ubuntu"04:41
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smacky_wolfCould I just use Adept?04:44
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Psi-Jacksmacky_wolf: Yes, yuou could.04:44
_lapduckythen if GRUB is happy, you just delete any old kernel images you don't want later.  They only burn up aobut 20-56MB each04:44
smacky_wolfJack: Ok, thanks.04:44
Psi-Jack_lapducky: 20-56?04:44
smacky_wolfYay for linux on lappys!04:45
_lapduckythat's what I see per image04:45
Psi-JackShoot, I have 3 kernel images, plus memtest86, and still only use 23mb.04:45
_lapduckyuhhh, I don't think memtest even uses initrd or vmlinuz04:46
Psi-JackNope.04:47
Psi-JackThat's why I specifically excluded it to itself, in that list. :p04:47
_lapduckyI think it hides in the second sector of (hd0)04:47
Psi-JackMy /boot only has 23MB in it.04:47
Psi-JackHides? No, grub can use it as an image.04:48
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_lapduckyPsi-Jack: heh Sarge & bREEzy krnl pkgs don't put all their gak in /boot -- take a look in / as well04:48
_lapduckymeh NM04:49
Psi-Jack_lapducky: True. I didn't include /lib/modules stuff.04:49
seadog409well my /boot only shows 14.4 mb and I have four kernels and memtest8604:49
Psi-Jackseadog409: Hmm, wow.04:50
arrinmurris this some kind of comptetition? :)04:50
Psi-JackI just have 2.6.12-9-386, 2.6.12-10-386, and 2.6.12-10-k704:50
Psi-JackCourse.04:51
smacky_wolfWhy not 2.8?04:51
Psi-JackI have installed the grub splashimages, but they... Didn't actually do anything. :/04:51
Psi-Jack2.8 is out?04:51
_lapducky 1 root root   94664 2005-06-30 09:49 memtest86+.bin04:51
smacky_wolf>.>04:51
smacky_wolfI think?04:51
smacky_wolfXD04:51
smacky_wolfI have no clue.04:52
smacky_wolf2.6.15 is apparantly the latest stable04:52
Psi-JackRight. :p04:52
_lapduckyquit talking about memtest like it matters that 94664 is BYTES FGS -- heh04:52
_lapducky=)04:52
Psi-JackWhat firewall does Linux call it's firewall, now? iptables still?04:53
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_lapducky704:53
_lapduckyerr 'y'04:53
Psi-JackEh?04:53
jagerwhat's the line for sources.list to enable multiverse?04:53
jager5.1004:54
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_lapduckybut there is firestarter now for 'click and forget' personal f/w which AFAIK is not only just an iptables wrapper like everything else was04:54
Psi-JackHeh.04:55
Psi-Jackfirestarter used to be a wrapper.04:55
smacky_wolfYay! Made mp3 work again.04:55
sampan_lapducky  i think it is just a gui frontend for iptables.  it comes up at boot time, sets my iptables and then exits.04:55
_lapduckyDid you know that the NForce chipset includes *hardware* IPv4 functions04:56
_lapduckysampan -- go look at their website -- they're claiming more04:56
Psi-Jack_lapducky: Eh?04:56
sampanif i restart it, i can change policy on the fly, but it just re-writes iptables and exits04:56
jagerwhat's the line for sources.list to enable multiverse?04:56
Psi-Jack!sorce-o-matic04:56
ubotuNot a clue, Psi-Jack04:56
Psi-Jack!source-o-matic04:56
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic04:56
sampan_lapducky  maybe if you use it for networking (i think it has some extra functionality), but just on one box it just writes iptables and exits -- doesn't stay running.04:57
jagersourceomatice doesn't mention multiverse?04:58
Psi-Jackjager: Yes it does.04:58
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jageri must be blind :(04:59
sampanjager, it's the "ubuntu community supported packages" section04:59
jagerahhh05:00
Psi-JackYeah.05:00
jagerthanks ! :)05:00
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sampansure, np :)05:00
Psi-Jackhmm.. tuxrip so far, is pretty sweet. Simple, yet powerful.05:05
Psi-JackThe fact it lets me select the video, audio, and container format, alone, is good. :)05:06
smacky_wolfHey, recommend me a winamp-like GUI based audio player. XAMMP?05:06
Psi-Jackxmms is one...05:07
smacky_wolf*xmms05:07
smacky_wolfIs it any good?05:07
Psi-JackDon't see why it has to be winamp-like, though. :)05:07
smacky_wolfEh, I like winamp05:07
Psi-JackWhat parts of winamp do you like?05:07
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Psi-JackYou remember. Windows and Linux are two totally different worlds. :)05:08
arrinmurrsmacky_wolf: xmms is just fine05:08
smacky_wolfthe small GUI, the global hotkeys, the look of it and also the speed and ML05:08
naliothsmacky_wolf: winamp and xmms are damn near the same thing. same themes work, etc05:08
Psi-Jacknalioth: Even the new skins, or just classic skins?05:09
smacky_wolfOK, cool. I might try that. I didn't want to use amaroK because I made it bork.05:09
arrinmurrwhy would anyone want to use the new skins?-)05:09
smacky_wolfArrin: They are pretteh? XD05:09
naliothPsi-Jack: beep-media-player is a gtk2 fork of xmms, you might look at that, too05:09
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: People doo.05:09
smacky_wolfSame reason I like KDE over hnome05:09
smacky_wolf*gnome05:09
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Psi-JackI haven't really decided, for a music playing program, what to actually use, myself. Then again, I haven't looked yet. :)05:10
smacky_wolfErrr. Had any experiance with kubuntu on an acer extensa, anyone?05:11
smacky_wolfMy built-in wifi card doesn't want to work.05:11
arrinmurrthe old skins are just fine... and they still seem to be among the most downloaded ones in winamp.com05:11
ranceI need some advice does anyone know when ubuntu core will have the php-mysqli (thats mysql enhanced) module available?05:12
naliothsmacky_wolf: you use ndiswrapper ?05:12
Psi-JackErgh..05:12
smacky_wolfErm. >.> No?05:12
naliothubotu: tell smacky_wolf about ndiswrapper05:13
Psi-JackWhy in the hell does Konquerer insist on auto-opening a konq window on a CD/DVD, THEN prompting what to do? Why? This is a huge annoyance to me.05:13
smacky_wolfMy friend here says ndis is a bad way of doing it.05:13
smacky_wolfWell, not bad05:13
smacky_wolfJust, slow.05:13
naliothsmacky_wolf: results are what counts.05:13
smacky_wolfor not optimal.05:13
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naliothsmacky_wolf: i use ndiswrapper on customer machines all the time, and have no complaints05:14
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: i'd like to know that too05:14
smacky_wolfApparantly, my PC uses intel wifi chipset, so it should be able to use a linux driver05:14
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rancepsi-jack: you are right, thats strange, I just noticed it when I put in a blank cd to purn it05:15
ranceoops burn it05:15
Psi-JackI don't know if it's strictly just Kubuntu's default setup, or KDE itself. but it's fscking annoying05:15
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Psi-JackJust like the KDE Wallet... It's a nuisance..05:16
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smacky_wolfKDE wallet makes my face :(05:17
ranceI dont really mind the kde wallet so much, at least I know how to turn that off if I want to05:17
Psi-JackHmm. what gstreamer plugin is required to support mp3?05:17
smacky_wolfermmmm...05:18
arrinmurrhrr.. gstreamer.. :/05:18
smacky_wolfit is.... god, I just set that up a minute ago05:18
smacky_wolfgstreamer0.8-mad05:19
naliothgstreamer0.8-mad05:19
Psi-JackAhh, mad? Odd...05:19
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Psi-JackWanted to check out amarok05:20
smacky_wolfEw. Bigpond.05:20
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: install amarok-xine05:20
smacky_wolfAmarok made me bork. I tried using the media searcher things05:20
jaekcohey, im setting up kubuntu on me mums pc.. I've used nix for a while but, ive forgotten a few things. The eth0 has been disabled os side, but not bios side, how do i enable this?05:20
Psi-Jackarrinmurr: I tried that.. But it breaks things..05:20
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: hm?05:20
Psi-JackErr..05:21
Psi-JackMaybe not..05:21
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: do you have the latest version from kubuntu.org ?05:21
Psi-JackAhh, gstreamer's working now.. But, I'm gonna get xine.05:21
smacky_wolfOoh, I like Adept.05:22
Psi-JackSomething, I tried to install before, depended on akode, the beta version, and it caused arts to sig11.05:22
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: and you have this version http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php ?05:23
Psi-JackI have 1.3.7 yes.05:24
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arrinmurrok. strange..05:24
Psi-JackIt wasn't amarok-xine, apparently. I may have been mistaken. :)05:24
Psi-JackBut, I'm using amarok-xine now.05:24
arrinmurrah05:24
rancewell nite all I guess Im gonna hit the sack05:25
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arrinmurreven with xine amarok takes about 10x as much processor resources as xmms though, at least on my machine ;)05:26
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Psi-JackHehe.05:26
_tomhey05:27
Psi-JackWell, looks like amarok does a lot, though. Even has a media library that uses SQL for a medium.05:27
smacky_wolfAnd sqLITE05:27
smacky_wolfor whatever it's called05:27
Psi-JackHmmm. Amarok us using only 13% CPU just playing an MP3.05:27
Psi-Jackmencoder, is still using more, at nice -19, 50-70%.05:28
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Psi-JackHmm, is there a KDE-based "task manager" or ktop?05:31
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sampanpsi-jack ksysguard has a process table in it05:31
sampannot sure if that will show cpu usage or not -- haven't tried (just use top for that)05:32
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Psi-JackYeah, ksysguard.05:39
sampankde kthings of keverything05:40
sampankthinks*05:40
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arrinmurryeah, but gnome thinks about the usability! it's easy to use things when there's nothing to use ;) [sorry :] 05:41
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Psi-JackLOL05:42
sampanlol arrinmurr05:42
Psi-JackI gotta say, some things gnome makes, is good.05:44
Psi-JackQuite frankly, I think I'm quite happy with Amarok.05:46
Psi-JackSimple, useful, and snazzy. :)05:46
arrinmurr& heavy05:46
smacky_wolfIt looks a little ugly.05:47
smacky_wolfAnd it keeps dying on mine05:47
sampanthe one that shipped with breezy had weird cpu usage for me -- some files 1-2% cpu, others were 20+% -- but the upgraded one is nice and no weird cpu usage05:47
Psi-JackI don't care about looks. I want function. I usually play, and minimuze.05:47
smacky_wolfEven though it works.05:47
smacky_wolfAh, OK05:47
smacky_wolfI want low CPU usage05:47
arrinmurrsmacky_wolf: then xmms is the choise05:48
Psi-Jack12% CPU usage, isn't too bad, for a 750MHz AMD DUron.05:48
sampansmacky_wolf  then for mp3/ogg, xmms and beep are (-at least-) 1-2% lower than amarok for me05:48
Psi-JackAnd with Amarok minimized, not having to to keep the visualization updated, it's only using 5%05:49
arrinmurrPsi-Jack: ah, but if you keep it minimized, it could as well be xmms :P05:50
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naliothPsi-Jack: try some console media player like cplay or mpg32105:51
Davey|WorkIs there any way to make Firefox look like a QT app? Am I missing something simple?05:51
Davey|WorkThunderbird too, for that matter05:52
naliothDavey|Work: usually, it would need to be compiled with qt-libs05:52
Psi-Jack!firefox1.505:52
ubotuYou can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion05:52
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Davey|Workalso, is there a Weather applet for my toolbar?05:54
Psi-JackHeh, and mencode is still trecking at 30fps encode.05:55
Psi-JackYeah, I think Amarok is the music player for me, for the most part. :)05:56
Psi-JackHas a dock-icon and all, I can just hide/unhide it with. :)05:56
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sebastianhello pals06:31
sebastianhow do i install vlc onto my kubunter?06:32
Psi-JackUmm. Haven't we already went through that with you, sebastian ?06:32
sebastianno06:32
sebastiani left06:32
sebastiani ahd to swtich to windows06:32
sebastianbut onw that you mention06:32
Psi-JackIt was explained before you left.06:32
sebastianyou did not actually06:32
sebastianno it was not06:32
sebastiani was given some link06:32
Psi-JackYes, yes it was.06:32
sebastianotherwise i wouldnt be here06:32
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sebastiananyroad06:33
sebastianthat s left in past06:33
sebastianhow do i go about now?06:33
Psi-JackRun adept. vlc should be listed in there.06:33
naliothsebastian: if you haven't already, enable universe and multiverse06:34
Psi-JackIf not, Go to the Adept menu, Manage Repositories, and enable some of the disabled repos, Apply, and Fetch Updates.06:34
sebastianirrsi vs konversation06:34
sebastianwhats better06:34
Psi-Jacksebastian: Whatever you prefer to use.06:34
sebastianhow do i enable universe and multiverse?06:34
sebastianlet me guess06:34
sebastiani am still learning06:35
sebastiani go to konsole06:35
sebastianand somehow06:35
sebastianopen kate06:35
Psi-JackNo.06:35
Psi-JackI told you how.06:35
sebastianok06:35
sebastianopening adept06:35
Psi-JackHere we go. Better..06:37
Psi-Jack!source-o-matic06:38
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:38
Psi-JackGo there, click on the Community supported packages. And get the list. Add those deb lines to your repositories.06:38
Psi-JackOne at a time, and you can do it from adept, and all. :)06:38
Psi-JackHmmm.06:39
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Psi-JackWhat uses the 2.5V power?06:39
_torkelim having a problem with dvd playback :/06:40
_torkelthe video isnt smooth, stopping at regular intervals for short amounts of time06:40
Psi-Jack_torkel: What are you using to play it, and what's the problem?06:40
naliothubotu: tell sebastian about repos06:40
_torkelim using vlc media player now, mplayer didnt work at all (had big sound problems, only noise from speakers)06:40
Psi-JackHmmm. Strange.06:40
naliothsebastian: if you are comfortable with a command line, irssi is (imho) the best irc client06:41
Psi-Jack_torkel: From konsole, or something, do sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom06:41
naliothsebastian: if not, i suggest kvirc06:41
Psi-JackReplace /dev/cdrom with the proper device for your DVD drive.06:41
_torkeldone, enabled06:41
Psi-Jack_torkel: Now try.06:41
_torkelPsi-Jack: thanks, it did it :D06:41
Psi-JackYeah.06:41
Psi-JackFigured. DMA makes a huge difference.06:42
Psi-JackYou'll need to do that everytime you boot up, and there's an easy way to enable it to automatically be done for you.06:42
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_torkelhow?06:42
sebastianback06:42
sebastiani brb-d by the way06:42
sebastiananyways06:42
sebastianvlc is not listed in that huge list on adept06:43
naliothsebastian: you need to read what ubotu sent you and enable universe and multiverse06:43
Psi-JackSystem Settings, System Services, (Administrator Mode), find hdparm in the list, and mark it to Start during booot.06:43
Psi-Jacksebastian: That, and you need to pay attention. :p06:44
Psi-JackI'm not going to continue to try to help you if you don't pay attention and actually follow directions, sebastian .06:44
sebastianlol06:44
sebastianok06:44
sebastianyou sound quite annoyed06:44
Psi-JackI don't like repeating myself. 3 times, especially.06:45
sebastianlook man i am just trying to learn how to use this fine thing06:45
sebastianno i clicked on that link ubotu sent me06:45
sebastianand it just opened a website with something like a guidebook06:45
sebastiannow believe me06:45
sebastiani am a musician06:45
sebastiani play guitar06:45
sebastianhave been playing my guitar for my own enjoyment06:46
sebastianfor 7 years06:46
sebastianif i had read any song books06:46
sebastianor any of that stuff06:46
sebastianid sound like one of those trite artists06:46
_kevinhow can i install make-jpkg?06:46
sebastianbut its all about repetition06:46
sebastianhumans learn by repetition06:46
sebastiannow if there was a kubuntu book06:46
_kevinusing adept, i do not see make-jpkg as an option.  I enabled the metaverse, universe repositories.06:47
sebastianon pdf id probably have it already but these things06:47
sebastianyou have to learn it as you do it06:47
sebastianlike dancing06:47
sebastiannow youre saying i stepped on your toes three times06:47
sebastianlook man im sorry, you dont have to dance with me if you dont want to, first timer here06:47
_kevinmake-jpkg06:48
sebastiannow ill scroll up and look up what you said and do those command things06:48
sebastianmy apologies06:48
sebastianman06:48
_kevinhelp anyone?06:49
naliothubotu: tell _kevin about java06:49
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sebastiannow06:55
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sebastiankubuntu doenst evne look like this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto06:55
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sebastiannow i dont mean to sound foolish but i cant let that constrict me from asking either you know06:55
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sebastianbut this is a first time kubuntu and linux kernel user06:56
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sebastiani dont know how it adds up when this original thing on which this kde thing was based on is suposed to serve as an example to work on a completely different(though similar in whatever matters those who know know) than kubuntu06:56
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fridgeKDE Menu -> System -> Adept06:57
sebastianbut back to earlier06:57
sebastianok06:57
sampansebastian, on the bottom of that page, there is a section specifically for kubuntu06:57
sebastiansee that makes sense06:57
sebastiankde menu system adept06:58
sampanit's directions will work -- just no pictures.06:58
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sebastianthat makes ense to me06:58
sebastianim on adept now06:58
_yellowdartsebastian: now at the top menu.. Adept >> Manage Repositories06:59
sebastiansee06:59
Psi-JackYep. Just like I told him.06:59
sebastianits not like you have to type it06:59
sebastianTHOUGH YOU KNOW IT06:59
sebastianand that puts blame onto it07:00
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sebastianbut its like copy and paste man07:00
sampansebastian  the point is that these same directions are ON that page07:00
sebastiannew repository07:00
sampanif you can follow the directions here, you could follow the ones on the page too ;)07:00
Psi-JackYep.07:00
sebastiandude i didnt even know07:00
_yellowdartsebastian: no...not a new repository07:00
sebastianthe url07:00
sebastianluckily YOU pasted that link through that data dude07:00
sebastianuboty07:00
_kevinarg, fc4 was so much easier07:01
sebastianok i am rading the instructions and it stopped making sense07:01
sebastianFrom there, enable the Universe repository and the Universe source repository. The "Universe" is the repository that has "universe" listed under the Components column07:01
_yellowdartsebastian: right click every line that starts with 'deb' or 'deb-src' and ends in 'universe' and select enable07:01
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sebastianbreezybackports multi... included?07:02
sebastianmain restricted something07:03
Psi-JackI wouldn't do backports just yet07:03
_yellowdartyeah07:03
sebastianno or yeah?07:03
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_kevinI have enabled all of the repositories, fetched updates, and i still dont see make-jpkgs07:03
sampandoesn't really matter either way. some of us have them enabled, others don't -- not a huge difference yet.07:03
Psi-JackFor a newbie such as yourself, I suggest against the backports.07:03
sebastiansure dude07:04
sebastianok07:04
sebastianis there some saving to this? like to i have to press enter somewhere07:04
sampanand after that's done, then go back and add "multiverse" (under "compenent" columns) to each of those lines.07:04
Psi-Jacksebastian: Apply button.07:04
Psi-JackYes, and the multiverse. :)07:04
sampanotherwise we'll be doing this all again in a day or so ;)07:05
sebastianhow do you mean add multiverse07:05
sebastiani go to the lines i enabled07:05
yellowdartbasically if you want to add multiverse, double-click the word 'universe' for each and type it in manually07:05
sebastianand then i sort of07:05
sebastianok so i turn the universes07:05
sebastianinto multiverses07:05
Psi-JackNo.07:05
sebastianaye?07:05
Psi-JackYou add multiverse TO it.07:05
yellowdartturn universe to universe multiverse07:05
sampanno, you need both07:05
sebastianaha07:06
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sebastiandone lad07:07
sebastiannow apply again?07:07
naliothsebastian: find and replace "universe" to "universe multiverse"07:07
sebastiandone07:07
sampansebastian, then hit "apply", then close, then fetch updates07:07
sebastianholy07:08
sebastianthis goes fast07:08
_kevinHow do I get make-jpkg?07:08
sebastiannalioth:07:09
sebastiansebastian: if you are comfortable with a command line, irssi is (imho) the best irc clien07:09
sebastianwhat doies that mean in christian?07:09
yellowdart_kevin: what do you need make-jpkg for?07:09
_kevinim trying to install jre1.5, and directions i found say to enter: make-jpkg jre-1_5....07:10
yellowdartit's part of java-package i believe07:10
sampansebastian  it means if you don't mind using an irc client that doesn't have a GUI, limited mouse-support, and everything is done via keyboard/text commands, that irssi is the best irc client.  if you prefer a GUI then others are better07:10
_kevinahh, ok07:10
_kevini will try that07:10
yellowdart_kevin: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76735.html07:11
naliothsebastian: in what?07:11
naliothubotu: tell _kevin about javadebs07:11
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sebastiannalioth: what would be the best for a newbie who otherwise uses bersirc07:11
sebastiannin windpows07:11
sebastiannalioth: adept finished loading the stuff now i see vlc and a couple of codec/plugin thingies listed07:12
sebastianbut they say07:12
naliothsebastian: i have no clue what besirc is. i havent used windows since 200007:12
sebastiannot installed07:12
yellowdartsebastian: it's all up to what you like...it's like asking someone whether to use vi or emacs :)07:13
naliothsebastian: all that you see, is totally without cost to you (except your time spent learning it) you may try as many irc clients as you wish and keep using the one(s) you like07:13
yellowdartgotta just play with them and see what features you like the most07:13
sebastianthats like cheating07:14
sebastianno way07:14
sebastiani like kubuntu07:14
sebastianand ill stick to it07:14
sebastiannow what do i do myself with this07:14
sebastianthus it reads:07:14
sebastianvlc not installed keep multimedia player for all audio and video formats07:14
sampansebastian  the "not installed" is telling you the status of those packages.  if you want to install it, click the button -- it will change to "install" -- then up top, click "commit changes" and it will install anything you have told it to install07:15
sebastianand then another four rows07:15
Davey|WorkHow do I show the sidebar in Konqueror for files?07:15
Psi-JackI'd really only install vlx, wxvlc, vlc-plugin-alsa and vlc-plugin-arts07:15
yellowdartDavey|Work: F907:15
Psi-Jackvlx=vlc07:15
sebastiansamoan: i clicked on it and then on install07:16
Davey|Workyellowdart: permanently?07:16
naliothDavey|Work: if you want konq as a file mangler, change or add a menu item to start it in file mangling mode07:16
sebastianwhat does it do now?07:16
sebastianwhen do i know when to click on commit changes07:16
sampansebastian  when you're done choosing the packages you want to install/uninstall07:17
sebastiani already clicked on the thing it became bigger and clicked on the install button07:17
Davey|Worknalioth: as opposed to what else would I be using in KDE? Did I miss something? :)07:17
sebastiando i want to install all the plugins for vlc?07:17
yellowdartDavey|Work: no, default...if you want you can go to Settings > Configure Shortcuts and change anything you want07:17
sebastianor it will open all formats regardless07:17
yellowdartDavey|Work: that goes for any kde app07:17
sampansebastian  psi-jack's recommendation was good i think07:17
Psi-Jacksebastian: I already told you the vlc parts I recommend. You don't need all the plugins.07:17
Davey|Workyellowdart: you're kidding, right?07:17
sebastiansamoan: which recomendation07:18
sebastiani missed it07:18
yellowdartDavey|Work: not at all07:18
Davey|Worknalioth: really, its been a long while since I used KDE, did they replace Konq for file browsing?07:18
Psi-Jacksebastian: Scroll back then,.07:18
sebastianPsi-Jack: so i just install the thing then07:18
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naliothDavey|Work: i'm sorry, i use consoles. if you want the sidebar to remain a constant, hit f9 to bring it out and then make any other viewing choices (folder vs info view, for instance) then go and save that profile07:19
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naliothDavey|Work: konq is still the default kde file mangler07:19
sebastian I'd really only install vlx, wxvlc, vlc-plugin-alsa and vlc-plugin-arts07:19
Psi-Jacksebastian: I already told you my recommendations. If you choose to follow them, that's your perogotive.07:19
sebastianthat?07:19
_jaghow do i reenable the menus in konqueror?07:19
Psi-Jackvlx = vlc, and yes.07:19
_jagkde3.507:19
sebastianok07:19
Davey|Work_jag: ctrl+m :)07:19
sebastianill install vlx07:19
_jagthanks07:19
sebastianwvlc07:19
_jagbet thats a faq haah07:20
sebastianvlc plugin alsa07:20
sebastianand vlc plugin parts07:20
_jagdo you guys use konqueror as a day to day webbrowser?07:20
sebastianPsi-Jack: i dont see vlx07:20
sebastianlisted07:20
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Psi-Jacksebastian: vlx = vlc07:20
Psi-JackA typo.07:21
naliothjager: i use galeon and konq as browsers (also use konq as a visual file mangler)07:21
jagerand konqueror handles, say, the trailers at apple.com ok?07:22
Psi-JackHmm.07:22
Psi-JackDoes Konq have like a tree panel on it?07:22
naliothjager: on the trailers at apple.com (which are based on qt7) ymmv07:23
sebastianisn-t it spelled prerrogative?07:23
yellowdartPsi-Jack: yes...(for file browsing) view > view mode07:23
sebastianok i just clicked on commit07:23
Davey|Workman, the KDE app for configuring my Keyboard is just plain b0rke. Load a blank window :(07:23
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sebastiannow it's "downloading"07:24
Psi-Jackyellowdart: Hmm. Tree view? I'm talking about a two-pane mode. Left side being the tree, right side being the files.07:24
Psi-JackKinda like Windows Explorer style.07:24
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jagerdoes konq handle them as well as firefox?07:24
sebastianPsi-Jack: whats bluetooth? thats new07:24
sampankrusader with krename is yummy!07:24
yellowdartok...F9 then click the folder icon on the left07:24
Psi-Jacksebastian: I don't do bluetooth.07:25
sebastianwhat is it though?07:25
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sebastianlike a different irc?07:25
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Psi-Jacksebastian: Ummm. No, Bluetooth is a wireless protocol.07:25
sebastiancellphones and palms?07:25
naliothPsi-Jack: that is standard file-mangling mode in konq. the default konq in kubuntu is the webbrowser mode, iirc07:25
yellowdartsebastian: bluetooth...used in cell phones a lot for headsets and such07:25
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sebastianok adapt went blank and now its writing stuff like konsole style only white background07:26
Psi-JackHmm..07:27
yellowdartPsi-Jack: did you get the win explorer style to work?07:27
Psi-Jackyellowdart: Not yet.07:27
naliothPsi-Jack: hit f907:27
yellowdartPsi-Jack: F9 then click the folder icon to the left07:27
Psi-JackAha!07:28
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yellowdartif you want to save that as default... Settings > Save View Profile "bla bla bla"07:28
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sebastiannalioth: if i install soulseek for kubuntu will i be able ot get files from my girlfriend eventhough shes on windows?07:29
Psi-JackKonq has multiple "view profiles?"07:29
yellowdartPsi-Jack: if you install lisa then you can also use that view to browse your network07:29
Psi-JackI already can browse my network. It's great. :)07:30
yellowdartPsi-Jack: yeah, it has multiple views so that it acts different depending on what you're doing (files, web, etc...)07:30
Psi-JackInteresting. How do I switch between the profile types? I opened up Konq by the kpanel, which defaults to the "Kobuntu Web" view profile07:31
jagerfirst thing i did when i installed breezy was make mp3s play, but now that i've upgraded to 3.5 they don't play anymore.  what did i do to them and how do i undo it?07:32
sampanpsi-jack  you can add a konq profiles button that will let you select. or you can set up kmenu entries for the ones you use most07:32
Davey|WorkHow do I get a trash can on my Desktop?07:32
Psi-Jacksampan: The profile button. How would I do that one?07:33
jagerhmm ok it's just amarok that hates mp3s, xmms plays them fine07:33
sampanpsi-jack  in the panel, right-click, add to panel --> special button --> konq profiles07:33
naliothsebastian: you should. the protocol doesnt care what OS you use07:34
yellowdartPsi-Jack: it changes based on what protocol you're using...07:34
naliothPsi-Jack: make a new launcher on your kicker, put whatever you want konqueror to do in it07:35
Psi-Jackyellowdart: It doesn't seem to, that's why I'm a bit confused about it. When I open up a file location, it doesn't change.07:35
sebastiannalioth: so if i am on slsk 7 for linux and shes on slsk 7 for windows07:35
sebastianit should work07:35
yellowdartPsi-Jack: if you click on System > Home Folder then it will start in file mode07:35
naliothsebastian: yes07:36
Psi-Jackyellowdart: Ahh! That'll work. :)07:36
sebastianadept is back to norma;07:36
sebastianis vlc installed yet?07:36
sebastianYES07:36
sebastianYAY07:36
sebastiannalioth07:37
sebastiani remember youa sking uboty if there was slsk for kubuntu07:37
sebastianhow do i go aout getting that??07:37
yellowdartPsi-Jack: if you put a file path in the URL bar (something like /etc/apt or ~ ) then it should change too07:38
Psi-JackHmm07:38
Psi-JackYeah, now it's starting to learn. :)07:39
naliothubotu: tell sebastian about register07:39
naliothsebastian: you register and identify your nick, you can private msg ubotu all you like07:40
sebastianSebastian was already taken07:40
sebastiansorry07:40
sebastianmaybe with no capital s07:41
naliothsebastian: so be creative07:41
sebastian /msg Unknown command07:42
Psi-JackHmm. That's odd..07:43
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yellowdartugh...finally got ruby on rails to work with apache and symlinks07:44
Psi-JackSo far, I can't get any CTCP VERSION request back from anyone, except myself.07:44
jagerdoes konqueror have a shockwave plugin?07:45
naliothPsi-Jack: not uncommon, this server is locked down on some things (due to spambot influence)07:45
naliothjager: it does not. only flash07:45
Psi-JackBetter question, Does Macromedia, err, I mean Adobe, make a Shockwave plugin for Mozilla? The answer is no. Not for *nux.07:45
jagerk07:46
Psi-JackCool. Already at 40% of the phase 2 of my DVD ripping proccess. And I haven't even noticed it running, really. :)07:47
sebastianok what do i type to register?07:47
nalioth!register07:47
ubotufrom memory, register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))07:47
sebastiani already typed /msg nickserv register sebastianus <password>07:47
sebastianand i dont know what happened07:47
sebastianit said SYNTAX: register07:48
sebastianand then <password>07:48
sampaniirc you have to BE the nick you're trying to register07:48
naliothyes, sebastian you need to be sebastianus and send /msg nickserv register <password>07:49
sebastianoh07:49
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sebastianusstill07:50
yellowdartsebastianus: when you '/msg nickserv register' ...it knows it's you ;)07:50
sebastianus00:50]  [Notice]  -NickServ- Syntax: REGISTER <password>07:50
sebastianus[00:50]  [Notice]  -NickServ- Type: /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER for more information07:50
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naliothsebastianus: you type /msg nickserv register my_wifes_nickname07:51
sebastianus-NickServ- Your nickname is now registered under the hostmas07:51
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naliothsebastianus: or w/o you want your password to be07:51
Psi-JackErr, screwdriver.07:51
sampanlol it worked07:51
sebastianusyou have a spelling problem07:51
naliothsebastianus: you are registered now.07:51
sampanhe's identified with servies07:51
sebastianusare you dislexic07:51
sampanservices*07:51
sebastianusok07:51
sebastianusnow a HUMAN07:51
Psi-Jacksebastianus: No comment...07:51
sebastianushow do i get slsk07:51
sebastianus!humans07:51
ubotuI haven't a clue, sebastianus07:51
sebastianus<ubotu> I haven't a clue, sebastianus07:52
sebastianus ""-Data07:52
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naliothsebastianus: you need mldonkey07:54
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sebastianus!mldonkey07:54
ubotusebastianus: What?07:55
Psi-Jacknalioth: Do you use mldonkey, yourself?07:55
sebastianusi dont know07:55
naliothPsi-Jack: i do not07:55
admrlcan anyone help me getting ubuntu to open kooka and scan when i hit the scan button..?07:55
Psi-Jacksebastianus: Adept is your friend, Use it.07:55
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naliothsebastianus: please dude quit with the !talking07:55
naliothubotu: tell sebastianus about msg the bot07:55
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jagerhow do i get konqueror to use flash?07:57
yellowdartjager: did you 'apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla' ?07:59
yellowdartor select it in adept07:59
jageryeah, it works in firefox, sorry i should have mentioned that07:59
jageralso about:plugins in konq says that there is a flash plugin07:59
jagerbut going to macromedia.com doesn't show any flash in konq, just in firefox07:59
fridgehow do I get KDE to handle URL's differently?08:00
yellowdartok, in konq, go to settings > configure konqueror08:00
jageri'd like to try using konq as my everyday browser08:00
yellowdartselect plugins from the left08:00
yellowdart"scan for new plugins"08:00
yellowdartclick the 'plugins' tab and you can see if it's there08:01
jageryep i see libflashplayer.so08:01
yellowdartopen a flash page and it should work08:01
jagerhm.08:01
jagerno change08:01
jagerwait08:02
jageri see falsh on atomfilms ...08:02
jagersweet08:02
jageri dunno why macromedia.com won't show me the flash animation in konq - it will in firefox08:03
Psi-Jackheh.08:03
Psi-JackI just noticed that.08:03
yellowdartjager: it's because they made their site with flash 8...your driver is 708:04
jagerwhy does it work in firefox?08:05
jagerdon't they use the same plugin?08:05
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yellowdartjager: now i see what you're talking about...that is odd08:05
Psi-JackActually, it's because Adobe/Macromedia does a browser version check, and Konquerer sends a different browser version than they programed for. :)08:05
jagerargh i really REALLY hate that08:06
yellowdartjager: BUT technically konq is not supported08:06
Psi-JackYes..08:06
jagerok then nothing to worry about, thanks Psi-Jack08:06
yellowdartok, getting late...time for bed08:07
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sampancan konq be set to send a different browser id?  settings --> configure konq --> browser identification?08:08
sampanwould that fool macromedia?08:08
yellowdartsampan: you can do that...but be warned, gmail doesnt play nice with that so macromedia may not either08:09
jagerbah that sucks08:09
sampanyellowdart  yeah, i know about it with gmail -- i just use firefox with gmail for that very reason ;X08:10
naliothsampan: sure it can. any browser can.08:10
jageri don't actually care about macromedia, i was just using as a test page08:10
jagerso i'll just ignore them08:10
yellowdartjager: most sites should work fine08:10
jagerand focus on getting apple's trailers to work08:10
sampannalioth  i was just curious if it would actually fool macromedia -- i know it can spoof it's id08:10
naliothsampan: i suspect macromedia checks the flash version08:11
sampancould be, but the flash plugin works for him under firefox08:11
yellowdartjager: good luck on that... i'm pretty sure that only quicktime 6 works for linux and they are using 7 at least08:11
jagerworks ok in firefox already08:12
jagerat least as well as it ever does08:12
yellowdartanyhow...i'm out...later08:12
jagerin konq i get popup windows "can't init Audio Driver 'alsasink' - trying another one ..."08:13
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jagerand then konq crashes08:13
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sebastianusim insane08:22
naliothsebastianus: welcome08:22
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jinPENIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!08:42
naliothwas there a reason for jin's outburst?08:43
Sebastianfor christs] 08:43
Sebastianhow many sebastians are we here08:43
sampannalioth  troublemaking?08:43
naliothSebastian: language please08:43
sampanthat's about the only reason i can think of08:43
Sebastianlanguage?08:43
SebastianI'm a quaker08:43
naliothi was having computer trouble, i missed all but his departing sentiments08:43
Sebastianand not even then am i so prudish08:43
sampannalioth  that was his ONLY sentiment08:44
sampanhe hadn't said a word until then :)08:44
naliothhmm, interesting. tourettes syndrome, maybe?08:44
Sebastiannalioth: i love that song08:44
sampancould be -- i wonder what a pyschaitrist would say about tourettes on irc08:45
naliothi was just wondering if there was a problem i missed08:45
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jagerdoes kopete have a now playing script like konversation?08:48
sebastianusnalioth: i wrote a poem08:48
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jagerlike that?08:48
naliothsebastianus: join #kubuntu-offtopic and let us share08:49
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naliothjager: please dont do that in here08:49
jagersure08:49
jagercan you do that with kopete though?  i though i read somewhere that the media script in konversation was based on something in kopete08:50
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jageror maybe it only works in kopete on irc ...08:50
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nxv_hi, i am running dapper and have trouble with postgresql. i can start the dbservice, atleast /etc/init.d/postgresql-7.4 says ok, but the port doesn't seem to open. nmap shows no open port and connectionattempts are rejected09:51
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fusionfoxis there a way to copy a file from a ntfs partition?, cuase i got access denied10:03
sampan!ntfs10:04
ubotuwell, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK10:04
fusionfoxeehh Okey i can read the ntfs partition only i get access denied i wanna know if it is cause i am not root or is a ntfs error?10:04
naliothfusionfox: you need to fix your fstab permissions10:06
naliothfusionfox: don't do anything with root, it's not that at all10:06
fusionfoxnalioth: and how do i add the permission i putted this ro,umask=022210:07
naliothfusionfox: make it ro,umask=00010:08
naliothfusionfox: unmount and remount and you'll be in business10:08
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fusionfoxnalioth: thanks man10:09
naliothfusionfox: np10:11
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fusionfoxnalioth: oh it is not the ntfs partition that is givvng the prob is the lcoation i am sending it, and it  is another HDD that it is owned by root... what an i do?10:14
naliothfusionfox: use sudo in a console10:15
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fusionfoxjejejejeje cant it be by another way??10:17
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fusionfoxnever mind ill do it... wont get you guys lose time on silly things10:17
fusionfoxthx again10:17
ilba7rfusionfox, can you describe in detail what you want10:17
ilba7rfusionfox, i did not follow your posts from the start so would help if you describe your requirement in detail10:18
eco2geekQuestion for you all: Having installed Kubuntu using the DVD, I installed GNOME using the repositories. Now kdm no longer logs me in -- it just blanks the screen and comes up again (kdm, that is).10:19
eco2geekgdm works. How did I hose kdm, and how do I make it work again?10:20
ilba7rtry sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm10:20
naliotheco2geek: how did you install gnome?10:20
eco2geekdpkg-reconfigure kdm doesn't help. I used apt-get install gnome, then used Synaptic afterwards.10:20
fusionfoxis cp copu right??10:20
fusionfoxcopy*10:21
naliotheco2geek: try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop10:21
naliothfusionfox: correct10:21
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eco2geekquote: "kubuntu-desktop is already the newest version."10:22
eco2geekoops, you said "ubuntu", let me try again.10:22
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eco2geekOK, off to see if that worked :-)10:25
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coronahi there does anyone know a linux video conversion utility for ipod(mepg4)?10:37
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asranielhi, is there  a shell command so that i can add a text at the begin of a file and not at the end?10:42
nalioth!cli10:42
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org10:42
naliothasraniel: best i can do atm10:43
fusionfoxehh nalioth i try doing this, sudo cp info /hdb1 and  i get this cp: omitting directory `info'10:47
naliothfusionfox: what are you trying to do with info?10:47
ilba7rfusionfox, you are trying to copy a dir10:47
naliothfusionfox: have you done a 'man cp' ?10:47
fusionfoxyea10:47
ilba7rcp -dir10:47
naliothfusionfox: or cp --help10:47
fusionfox(o_o) oh i see10:48
fusionfoxxD10:48
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ilba7rfusionfox, i might have made a mistake for -dir does not appear to be an option when using man cp10:49
sambagirlorning is there anyone who knows of PSM for mozilla? how i can update for the complete program usingn apt-get? is there a way? why ubuntu does not include full mozilla i dont understand.10:49
Psi-JackIs there an UltraVNC package?10:50
Psi-Jacksambagirl: But, Ubuntu does have the full mozilla.10:50
naliothsambagirl: sudo apt-get install mozilla-psm10:50
naliothsambagirl: buenos dias :)10:51
sambagirlhola10:51
sambagirlthen why does it ask for me to install psm all these times?10:51
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sambagirlthanks brb10:52
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ilba7ralways used cp -dir did not notice till now that d i r are three seperate options that will do the trick though :)10:53
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sambagirleverytime i try using mozilla for getting email at cpanel or anywhere i need put logon/pw into it pops up with dialog for PSM what is this?11:01
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naliothsambagirl: did you restart your mozilla/firefox/galeon/epiphany-browser  after you installed mozilla-psm ?11:02
sambagirli remember seeing epiphany11:02
sambagirlwhy are there so many browsers on heree? :D11:02
sambagirllol11:02
naliothsambagirl: your browser. did you restart it after you installed PSM ?11:02
sambagirlyes11:03
nalioththen you are getting a weird error11:03
sambagirlbut it still says this.11:03
sambagirli am not surprised11:03
sambagirli found epiphany browser brb11:04
naliothi use cpanel, also. i don't get those errors.11:04
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sambagirli cannot be opened something about PS<M. It says contact my administrator too.11:06
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nlindbladhello11:06
sambagirlhi11:07
naliothsambagirl: what site is this?11:07
sambagirlall sites. www.jazzy.net umm www.fusemail.com11:07
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sambagirlyahoo.com mail thing and hotmail.com too anything i need to put in the logon pw option.11:09
naliothsambagirl: that is weird. i have no trouble at those sites11:09
sambagirldo you think it could be because i run apache server in background maybe there is conflict?11:10
naliothsambagirl: i'm not sure at all, amiga11:11
sambagirlthat is my favorite computer too amiga.11:12
sambagirlok let me try installing flash for konquere. i be back chao esse11:12
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sambagirlfala portugese?11:12
sambagirli be back11:12
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tmirceahi11:13
nlindbladnalioth: hablas espaol?11:13
naliothnlindblad: muy muy poquito11:13
nlindbladnalioth: what does "poquito" mean?11:14
naliothnlindblad: 'little'11:14
nlindbladokey11:14
nlindbladmaybe we shouldn't speak Spanish then since we both seem to be no good at it11:15
tmirceahow do i install mc ?11:15
tmirceaapt-get ?11:16
tmirceawhat package11:16
nlindbladapt-cache search11:16
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naliothtmircea: enable the universe repository and use apt-get11:16
tmirceahow do i enable this universe11:16
naliothnlindblad: i'm a taxi dispatcher in an area with many many spanish speakers11:16
naliothubotu: tell tmircea about repos11:16
naliothtmircea: enable multiverse while you're there, too11:17
nlindbladnalioth: okey, where do you live?11:17
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naliothnlindblad: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please11:17
nlindbladsure11:17
tmirceaubotu told me about mp3 not abour repositories11:17
ubotutmircea: Do they come in packets of five?11:17
tmirceaubotu needs maintenance11:17
ubotutmircea: Are you on ritalin?11:17
tmircea?11:18
tmirceano11:18
tmirceashut up11:18
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ilba7r!repos11:18
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource11:18
tmirceau need to be fixed11:18
nalioth!repos11:20
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource11:20
penguinzdrguys have you tried MPlayer CVS?11:22
Hobbseetmircea: ubotu is a bot, he only responds to certain commands11:27
Hobbseetmircea: telling him to "shut up" isnt one of them11:27
penguinzdrubotu: shutup is you shut up!11:28
ubotupenguinzdr: okay11:28
Hobbseepenguinzdr: that's even worse11:29
penguinzdrubotu: bg is Mozhete da poluchite pomosht za Ubuntu i Kubuntu na bylgarski v kanal #ubuntu na syrvyr irc.unibg.org11:29
ubotuokay, penguinzdr11:29
penguinzdr!bg11:29
ubotuwell, bg is Mozhete da poluchite pomosht za Ubuntu i Kubuntu na bylgarski v kanal #ubuntu na syrvyr irc.unibg.org11:29
nlindblad!se11:30
ubotuI don't know, nlindblad11:30
penguinzdrse = svenska?11:31
nlindbladyepp11:31
nlindblad!sv11:31
ubotunlindblad: Do they come in packets of five?11:31
penguinzdrheh11:31
penguinzdryou're good, ubotu!11:31
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Hobbsee!tell penguinzdr about msgthebot11:31
penguinzdryou should tell nlindblad about stop !guessing11:32
penguinzdrhow long mplayer compiles?11:33
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penguinzdri'm tired of waiting11:33
Hobbseegot no idea, probably a while11:33
nlindbladdepends on your environment and how powerful your computer is11:33
penguinzdr1.8 GHZ proc11:33
penguinzdrand 256 MB RAM11:33
naliothpenguinzdr: 20 -30 minutes at most11:34
nlindbladthe clockfrequency doesn't really matter11:35
nlindbladnor does the amount of RAM11:35
penguinzdri think that's now in the end11:35
penguinzdrcompiling libvo11:35
penguinzdrlibdha...11:36
penguinzdrfinaly!11:37
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Psi-JackOkay.. This sucks. One of the best features of mIRC is the channel listing and how it sorts the list alphabetically and everything. Konversation, doesn't do that, and croaks on huge listings. :/11:43
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naliothPsi-Jack: konversation is just ONE of many (and i prefer kvirc-cvs myself)11:43
Psi-JackYeah.. I have kvirc. I used to use it a lot. It's just a pain in the arse to configure it to use a black background, versus the default white background.11:44
naliothnot kvirc from the repos, kvirc from cvs11:44
nlindbladPsi-Jack: there's xchat, irssi, bitchx, etc.,etc.11:44
Psi-JackI know, there's a ton of IRC clients. I'm looking strictly and only for X11 clients. I have my preferred console client when I'm just in console.11:45
_torkelhmmm, is there any decent torrent clients available from any deb repositories? like azureus or something11:45
Psi-JackI'm an epic4 man, when it comes to console. :p11:45
naliothPsi-Jack: there are excellent instructions at kvirc.net on building from cvs11:45
Hobbsee!+azureus11:45
ubotuhmm... azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo11:45
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_torkelnot that i require better, but the torrenttracker im downloading from wont let me download until i get a "decent" client11:45
Psi-Jack_torkel: Hmm, What are you using now?11:46
_torkelPsi-Jack: ktorrent11:46
Psi-JackHmm...11:46
_torkelim prefectly ok with it, it's just that my tracker doesnt accept it :P11:47
_torkeli actually dont prefer azureus due to that it's resource demanding11:48
_torkelsucks up all my memory etc, but it will do atm11:48
Psi-JackHeh, well you /can/ adjust that through the jvm, a bit.11:48
nalioth_torkel: use bittornado-gui or console version11:48
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Steven_Mnalioth: are you here?12:04
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naliothyes12:07
Steven_Mis there any difference between running the command "sudo su -" and running the command "sudo -i"?12:08
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naliothsudo su is redundant and unnecssary. sudo -i is the preferred usage12:08
naliothand let's not forget12:09
nalioth!kdesu12:09
ubotukdesu is, like, :Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you  have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater "12:09
Steven_Mis there difference between the outcome of sudo -i and sudo su - ?12:11
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naliothSteven_M: su may break your functionality12:12
Steven_Mwhy is that? Please note i'm not talking about gui apps.12:13
naliothi just preach the choir book, Steven_M i've personally never used 'su' in x/k/ubuntu. the devs say 'sudo -i' is the preferred method, that's the way i say12:16
Steven_Mfar enough, thanks nalioth12:18
naliothSteven_M: i've not used a root account since 2000, so i'm probably biased toward the sudo model12:19
naliothbeen using linux since 9712:19
tictric_I've been using linux since 97 either and am using the root account all the time but only on the console and that12:20
tictric_is where it belongs12:20
naliothtictric_: it takes a bit of gettin used to, but i think sudo works fine for all my superuser needs. to each their own12:21
tictric_nalioth: yep, but I hate typing sudo all the time :-)12:21
naliothtictric_: so sudo -i12:21
Steven_MI like the sudo model too don't get me wrong, I was just interested in the little details.12:22
tictric_nalioth: I've got nothing to say against sudo and I think it's brilliant for people getting used to linux or unix12:23
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tictric_but I've got my old habits. And maybe it's just about time to reconsider them.12:25
Hobbseetictric_: for something like sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, why not write a shell script that does both at once?12:25
Hobbseeor set some aliases?12:25
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tictric_I'd type sudo aptitude12:26
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Hobbseewhichever12:26
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naliothHobbsee: does have a point. i have all my apt-get things aliased to 3 letters12:26
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tictricI think the way aptitude looks out for packages that are not required any longer is way cool compared to just using apt12:27
Hobbseetrue12:27
naliothtictric: our point is, use aliases12:28
nlindbladaliases is usually a bad habit12:28
naliothnlindblad: then a lot of us are very naughty12:28
tictricI don't alias things that administer the system. Only stuff like *ls -l* or some grep shortcuts12:29
Steven_Msee you all later :-)12:29
nlindbladunless you have the same .bashrc everywhere and in a SVN/CVS-repository you just make it harder for yourself12:29
tictricdifferent topic12:30
tictricI may already've asked this once or twice but anybody knows a way to get my cdrom drives back into media:/ ?12:31
naliothmy ~/.bashrc is on all my boxes12:31
nlindbladnalioth: but what if you add in an alias on one machine12:31
naliothnlindblad: i run rsync12:31
nlindbladokey, I rest my case then12:32
nalioth?12:32
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naliothmy machines keep themselves mirrored from the master machine12:32
naliothfor some files12:32
tictricanybody here running kubuntu on macintosh hardware?12:34
tictricpity12:35
naliothtictric: yes i do12:36
tictricI'm thinking about getting one of those new macbooks and running a kubuntu installation on it12:37
tictricbut that'll be intel then.12:37
naliothtictric: have fun. the broadcome chip driver has come to usefulness, so it should be quite nice12:37
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C-O-L-Twhich driver should i install for a canon i25012:51
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IlokaasuI have a problem, my cdrom opens before grub, but not after im logged in ubuntu, cdrom is not mounted12:55
C-O-L-Twhich driver should i install for a canon i25012:55
C-O-L-Tcanon i250 is a printer12:57
OculusAquilaehello01:01
OculusAquilaecould somebody say me how i can get a fresh home-folder?01:01
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tictricMy son's just started his first kubuntu session to write a story about a mouse family for school :-)01:05
tictricAnybody knows a nice training software to learn typing?01:05
tictricHe's seven01:06
nlindbladthat's cute01:06
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nalioth_zZztictric: in console, "apt-cache search typing tutor"01:09
nalioth_zZzlooks to be a couple of em for younguns01:09
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nalioth_zZzgood night01:10
tictricI know that but it01:10
tictricis rather a game then a systematic trainer01:10
nalioth_zZztictric: it's the results you want, not the trip along the way, right?01:11
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tictricdon't understand what you mean01:12
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nalioth_zZztictric: it doesnt matter how one learns. if a fuzzy animal teaches you to swat the bees with certain letters on them or by rote practice, the result is one learns to type01:12
nlindbladtictric: ktouch01:12
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nlindblador is that for touchscreen-stuff01:12
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nlindbladtictric: ktouch, seems alright01:13
nalioth_zZztictric: learning that is fun has more of a chance to stay with you (these two youth oriented game type typing teachers are from the edubuntu side of the house, btw)01:13
tictricwell I meant it doesn't tell you which fingers are meant for which key as far as I remember01:13
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nalioth_zZztictric: try them out.01:14
nalioth_zZzagain, adieu01:14
tictrick01:14
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Ilokaasuwhy my cdrom is locked ? its not even mounted...01:17
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Psi-JackMan.. I am so glad that I use KDE. :)01:31
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Ilokaasube so glad that u tell me how to open my cdrom :D01:32
Psi-JackPut it in.01:32
Ilokaasuits scsi based or something :S01:32
Psi-JackOr something? Do you not know?01:32
Ilokaasuim pretty sure this cdrom is scsi :P01:33
Ilokaasuor u can tell me why my torrents wont start, firewall is not installed...at least not by me :P01:33
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Psi-JackWell, what torrent client are you using?01:34
Ilokaasutriend ktorrent and bittornado01:35
Ilokaasujust says cant connect...01:35
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Ilokaasuim pretty sure its about some port configuring but i dont have router etc on the way01:35
C-O-L-Thow to convert rpm to deb using alien. I mean what to write in terminal01:36
Psi-Jackman alien01:36
C-O-L-Tsudo alien or how?01:36
Java_the_Huttwhen i try to compile a C program, compiler complaines it can't find stdio.h or similar basic header files . How can  i fix it ?01:37
Psi-Jackman alien01:37
crimsunJava_the_Hutt: install build-essential01:38
Java_the_Huttthanks01:38
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dreamlessHey how do i get flash and java installed? I cant get the restricted format guide to work.01:51
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Ilokaasudreamless:  i got my flash/java from repositories01:55
Ilokaasuor how is it spelled :P01:56
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dreamlessIlokaasu: i cant find any and i have enabled multiverse reps.01:57
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crimsundreamless: you need both universe and multiverse enabled01:59
crimsundreamless: then you need to install flashplugin-nonfree for Flash support (and restart your browser)01:59
Ilokaasuhuh, i dont have any idea why my cdrom wont open...01:59
crimsundreamless: any specific version of Java?01:59
Ilokaasuits not mounted01:59
gersttry this for firefox sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla02:01
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crimsunflashplayer-mozilla is illegally distributed and will be removed from Dapper02:02
Psi-Jackcrimsun: Was it you whom suggested me to use kvirc cvs?02:02
dreamlesscrimsun: nope just i can get it to work in firefox and konq.02:02
crimsunPsi-Jack: probably not02:03
Psi-JackAhh kk. :)02:03
crimsundreamless: come again?02:03
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Ilokaasustupid question of the week02:03
Ilokaasuwhats dapper :P02:03
gerstthe next ubuntu02:04
gersthttp://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/2005/11/installing-macromedia-flash-player.html read this02:04
dreamlesscrimsun: i just need java to work within konquerer and firefox i dont care if its suns java or something else GPL like :)02:04
crimsundreamless: did you install j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin?02:05
Psi-Jackdreamless: Oh no, trust me, you want sun's java.02:07
gerstwhats the problem with java?02:08
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dreamlesscrimsun: nope i dont think i have enable all reps. when looking closer what reps. do i need to add to breezy rep list?02:09
dreamlessgerst: thanks! i did get flash to work in firefox, but how do i get it to work in konquerer?02:10
gerstthere is an option in konqueror02:10
gerstfor search for plugins02:10
gerstit will find it02:10
crimsundreamless: universe and multiverse02:10
dreamlessgerst: oh thanks!02:12
gerstSettings -> Configure Konqueror -> Plugins02:12
gerstScan tab02:12
gerstScan for New Plugins button02:12
dreamlesscrimsun: okay ill have a look tought i had enable all but since i cant find the java stuff i guess i havent :)02:12
dreamlessgerst: no that dident do the trick :(02:13
gerstit should be work02:13
dreamlessgerst: in the installation of flash player i chose to install in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox and not mozilla only think thats might could be why ill have a look 2 sec :)02:14
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dreamlessYes that was the problem :)02:15
dreamlessgerst: thanks alot :)02:15
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gerstnp02:17
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dreamlessjust added the mozilla-firefox dir. to the scan list :)02:19
dreamlesscrimsun: no i have both multiverse and universe enabled (uncommeted) also checked in Adept :)02:20
gerstdownload this http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp02:21
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gerstMove the downloaded file to the created directory:02:21
gerstsudo mv jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin /usr/java02:21
gerstthan sudo sh ./jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin02:21
dreamlessgerst: but will all this manual installing mock up apt-get features of updating?02:22
gerstthan02:22
gerstcd /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/02:22
gerstit will be ok I think02:22
gerstits ok for me02:22
dreamlesswill apt find the apps i install manually?02:22
gerstread here http://zerlinna.blogspot.com/2005/10/setting-up-firefox-i-iii.html02:23
dreamlessokay thanks02:23
dreamlessill look into it..02:23
dreamlesskubuntu would be the best distro i have ever touched if it wasent because all these formats wasent restricted!02:24
dreamlessBasic users need to have java, flash, dvd and so on enabled.....02:24
gerstyou can install them in a few minutes02:25
gerstand use them for months ... years :D02:25
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dreamlessgerst: yeah but its still to hard for the basic user :)02:27
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Storkmekde is fugly02:56
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Storkmewhoops02:57
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crimsunuhh yeah.02:57
gerstpff what an idiot02:57
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_alehi, i'm a seasoned debian user moved recently to kubuntu, what is the correct way to get a more recent kernel than the stock one (i need some recently added driver)03:14
crimsun_ale: pretty much the same way you'd do it in Debian03:14
_alekpgk-make?03:14
crimsuni.e., anyway you want to.03:14
_alejust plugging the depper binary?03:14
crimsunif you mean make-kpkg from 'kernel-package', sure03:15
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_alei mean is it possible to use the limux.image-2.6.15 from depper?03:15
crimsunif you use Dapper's kernel directly, you'll need to get rid of Breezy's hotplug and compile Dapper's udev on your Breezy system.03:15
crimsunDapper no longer uses hotplug03:16
_alewoops, ok, i'll go with make-kpkg :)03:16
_alethanks03:16
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crimsunyou'll of course run into the same initrd/initramfs issues that you would if you used a stock Debian kernel03:16
_ale?? i used make-kpkg several times (up to a few months ago) without any such problem.03:17
_aleok. i understand, migration from initrd to initramfs03:18
_aleany pointer to a guide to make-kpkg on a recent ubuntu system (depper) ?03:19
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Firetechhmm, is HAL support broken again?03:23
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Firetechmy bad, just a strange CD03:29
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Psi-JackGrrr..03:34
Psi-JackThis is going to annoy me to no end.03:34
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Psi-JackKubuntu doesn't use some kind of automounter, outside of KDE, does it?03:43
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cleo!sane03:49
ubotuNo idea, cleo03:49
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torzeveninng fellows. Quick question what do you guys use to expand rar? rarlinux?03:53
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tictrictorz: there's unrar-nonfree in the nonfree section03:59
tictrictorz: sorry, multiverse section I meant04:00
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torzah04:02
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indowhen i go to System Settings - Printers, the Printer window hangs with "Initializing manager..." I am trying to set up a network printer, do I need to install a package to allow me to access a print server (ubuntu box)?04:11
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prxqHi. The system-settings -> Network settings is not letting me activate anything. It says I should use the administrator mode, but that one seems not to work. any ideas?04:16
prxqessentially, it asks for my password, but then nothing changes.04:16
prxqactually, it does exactly the same whether i type some random stuff into the password window as if i typed in the correct one04:17
_stefanthis might be the root - account kdesu sudo problem04:18
_stefan?04:18
_GoRDoN_Could somebody say how I can manage repositories? Howtos I had found are for Adept but I have Kynaptic.04:18
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_stefanrepositories are in /etc/apt/sources.list04:18
indoprxq: it is a bug04:18
prxqindo: aha.04:18
_stefanyet a bugfix ?04:19
prxqso, instead of pushing buttons, I get to use iwconfig et al?04:19
indothere is a workaround04:19
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prxqindo: what is it?04:20
indoedit /etc/kde3/Xstartup add the line "rm -rf /var/tmp/kdecache*" minus quotes04:20
prxqok04:20
_stefan?dont even have Xstartup in /etc/kde3/04:21
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prxqme neither04:21
_stefani read someone said, creating a privileged"root" account might help04:22
indosorry /etc/kde3/kdm/Xstartup04:22
_stefanbut it doesnt work here for adding printer using kcontrol04:22
prxqwell, I have a root account :-)04:22
prxqindo: do I add that at the beginning?04:23
indoyes04:23
visik7how KDE know how to assign icons to running programs in the taskbar ?04:23
visik7Thunderbird Icon sux and I want to change it04:24
_stefanright click on icon04:25
_stefangoto properties04:25
_stefanclick on icon04:25
_stefanchange it04:25
visik7it doesn't change!!04:25
visik7the icon of the shortcut yes but not the icon in the taskbar04:26
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_stefanare you talking bout the K Menu ?04:27
visik7I'm talkin' about the TaskBar04:28
visik7where there are or running program04:28
visik7with its own icon04:28
Discordianthere is a guide somewhere in the ubuntu wiki04:28
Discordianhow to change tb and fx icons back04:28
Discordianhttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#restoreoriginaliconsfirefox04:29
Discordianeven in ubuntuguide nowadays :-)04:29
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Discordiantoo bad, the linked url is down -_-04:30
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visik7ya :/04:32
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DJDarkmanhy ,i`ve reinstalled kubuntu but there was some error dunring the istallation and now i cant start adept ,it alwasy says that i need to be root ,but sodo worx ,what should i do04:37
DJDarkman?04:37
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prxqindo: now it works. thanks. However, it has almost nothing to configure wireless interfaces. I can set WEP, but no channel, and it doesn't bother giving me an error message when it doesn't work.04:38
ownertry connecting with wep disabled04:39
ownerndiswrapper is kinda flaky04:39
indoprxq: i had the same problem, let me see if i can find a url to help you out04:39
DJDarkmani`ve reinstalled kubuntu but there was some error dunring the istallation and now i cant start adept ,it alwasy says that i need to be root ,but sodo worx ,what should i do?04:39
prxquh oh. I can't disable wep.04:39
ownertry sudo su djdarkman04:40
ownerit will give you a root shell04:40
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prxqI have to say I'm not impressed by the systems settings network interface.04:40
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ownerprxq are you using ndiswrapper04:41
DJDarkmanroot@Darknet:/home/djdarkman# adept-updater04:41
DJDarkmanXlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server04:41
DJDarkmanXlib: No protocol specified04:41
indohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto - ignore the gui stuff, and use command line, just follow that guide, it got mine working04:41
ownerdjdarkman04:41
DJDarkmanthis is strange04:41
indoprxq04:41
ownertype xhost +04:41
prxqno. The serialmonkey ralink driver.04:41
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ownerbefore typing sudo su04:41
ownerrunning apps from root account is disabled by default04:42
ownerbut if you type xhost + in your user shell04:42
ownerand then sudo su04:42
prxqindo: oh ok. thanks. Actually, I'm rehearsing because I will install the same card in my gf's laptop, and hoped to have a point-and-click interface.04:42
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ownerdjdarkman you have to give your user account sudo permissions04:42
prxqyes, I can get it to run without a problem from the command line. Sorry for the confusion.04:42
gerstI have ralink chipset card, and ubuntu found it without any problems04:42
ownerthats your problem04:42
DJDarkmanowner: but this woreked before04:43
prxqgerst: with this one it didn't I don't know why.04:43
indoprxq: i went through a lot to get mine working, 5.04 worked by just installing the driver, but as you said, the GUI Network Config is very dissapointing04:43
gerstrt2400 ?04:43
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prxqno, rt2500. The serialmonkey driver works nicely04:44
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newbie_Hello everyone I have a quck question, how do I get apps to autostart under Kubuntu Breezy?04:44
ownerdjdarkman see this thread http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=115649&highlight=newuser11104:44
ownerhe had same problem as you04:44
gersti have 2400..04:44
cleocan someone tell me why kooka detects my scanner only as root?04:45
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tmirceahi all04:49
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erosgolwhats the best program for  burning iso s?04:58
prxqindo: have you tried the wlan-scan.sh script in the link you posted? is it recomendable?04:59
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Java_the_Hutterosgol: is there any rather than k3b ?05:00
erosgol? i guess not due to the responce so ty05:00
prxqyou can always use cdrecord directly05:01
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Davey|Workis there another tool to set my Keyboard shortcuts (I want to map my media keys to stuff), the KDE Settings > Peripherals > Keyboard just brings up a blank window for me05:02
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gsuveganyone use spamassissin with kmail in daemon mode ?05:03
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ownerthere is a way in kde setup davey05:05
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ownerthats one thing that i always found weird, in gnome the multimedia keys and volume control on keyboard work but not in kde05:05
indoprxq it didn't work for me05:06
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indoprxq: when you do iwconfig, does it show you detecting your wireless network? if not you need to try manual settings, iwconfig wlan0 essid ESSID, iwconfig wlan0 channel05:08
prxqindo: it does not detect it automatically. Ither is another iwsomething that has done so in the past, however. Let me check (i'm rebooting my laptop)05:09
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prxq"iwlist ra0 scanning" detects it.05:12
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tictricanybody running 64bit kubuntu?05:20
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tictricis it recommendable or rather not?05:20
tictricI still got the 32bit installation on my amd64 system running05:21
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isodudeIm running 64bit kubuntu05:22
owneris it any better isodude05:22
isodudeHanv't got fglrx to work yet, but everything else works ok.05:22
isodude"any better"05:22
indo64 bit here too05:22
tictricany software you don't get05:22
ownerfaster, more stable?05:22
isodudeIt's like everything you do, if it's optimized for 64bit, it runs faster than 32bit.05:23
tictricwill nvidia 6600 run05:23
isodudeThat's the difference.05:23
indosame really, just no Flash in 64 bit, no simple flash, you can run the 32 bit binaries05:23
tictricisodude: you got the 32-bit libs installed?05:23
isodudeThere's a way to install flash right?05:23
ownerbut do you notice the speed difference05:23
ownerthats what i meant05:23
isodudeI selected linux32 what I know of.05:23
indoyea, speed is great on 6405:24
tictricwell then i'll get the image. finally :-)05:24
isodudeI've been running 64bit all the time so I can't really compare =)05:24
isodude64bit gentoo -> 64bit kubuntu05:24
isodudeOK, anybody want to solve my problems now?05:25
isodude:D05:25
tictricisodude: you got problems?05:25
isodudefirst: fixing locale sv_SE.ISO-8859-15 to work with irssi.05:25
tictricwho hasn't?05:25
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isodudeirssi says I dont' have it05:25
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isodudeSo it falls back on C05:26
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tictricHa, there's a kubuntu mirror that runs on suse9.105:26
isodude:)05:26
isodudeThe locales is vanilla too.05:27
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tictricwhy dont you use konversation?05:27
isodudeSecond: Xorg doesn't send anything to the monitor when I start it with fglrx drivers.05:27
isodudetictric: did you bother to do a /ctcp isodude version ?= )05:28
tictricno05:28
tictricyou didn't also?05:29
isodudeI wan't to run irssi rather than Konversation05:30
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isodudewant*05:30
tictricah, fine. So what's better with irssi?05:31
isodudeAbout the second dilemma, I have a feeling I need to load some via agp drivers.05:32
isodudeBut there isn't any via agp module05:33
ownerisodude did you try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=42358405:34
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isodudeDid that.05:35
ownerbtw ati has x_64 drivers05:36
ownerhttps://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=30005:36
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ownernot that ive tried them05:36
ownerbut you could create debs from them05:36
ownerand compile with your kernel05:36
ownerisodude did you try the x64 download or just the x8605:37
isodudex6405:37
ownerthats weird05:38
isodudetrue05:38
isodude=)05:38
ownerare you using vesa05:38
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isodudeatm yea05:38
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ownerdid you run sudo fglrxconfig05:39
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isodudeyea once, but cba.05:41
isodudeI took my old xorg.conf instead05:41
isodudefrom my old 64bit gentoo05:41
isodudewhich WORKS and is configured to work with fglrx05:41
ownershouldnt make a diff05:41
ownerhow did you like gentoo05:42
isodudenice05:42
isodudev nice05:42
owneri tried to install vidalinux05:42
ownerbut it failed at install05:42
ownerthat is based on gentoo05:42
isodude:(05:43
Davey|Workis there some config file I can edit by hand to setup my media keys?05:43
isodudeYeah05:43
ownerthere is davey05:43
isodudeDon't remember what file it is though :p05:43
ownerthere is a way to map the keys05:44
ownerme neither iso05:44
ownerlol05:44
Davey|Workor is there some way to run the KDE Keyboard Settings from Konsole to see if there is an error?05:44
owneralso you can try selecting multimedia keyboard05:44
ownerin kde setup05:44
Davey|WorkI can't open up the KDE KEyboard Settings05:44
Davey|Workotherwise I would probably have tried that ;)05:44
ownerthe weird thing is that in gnome all my multimedia keys work05:44
ownerthe home button, volume control05:44
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ownerwithout any setup05:44
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Davey|WorkI had to map them in Gnome05:45
seashell11owner: What is the command to start kde setup to try setting up my multimedia keys?05:45
isodudeIf you have the correct keyboard in xorg.org, they should return somehting when pressed.05:45
isodudeSo It's just to bind them to do something05:45
ownerits in the kde menu05:45
owneryes isodude05:45
Davey|Workisodude: this I'm aware of...05:45
owneri selected 104 key05:45
Davey|Workah-hah!05:46
Davey|WorkI found Keyboard Shortcuts under Accessibility :)05:46
isodudeAnyway, got any tips for my fglrx problems? :(05:47
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owneri reinstalled ubuntu so i am using gnome05:47
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ownereven though i like kde more05:47
seashell11Davey|Work: I don't have the accessibility option can you tell me what the command line is?05:48
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firlouhi05:48
stremaerkyhello everyone05:48
purpleheart_USMCWhen I click on administrator mode to change my network settings, nothing happens after i enter my password...I can't seem to change my network settings05:48
Davey|Workand... no luck.05:48
ownerwhat happened davey05:48
owneri never had any luck either in kde05:49
stremaerkyi just installed kubuntu one month ago05:49
ownerthe volume control key would only go from 0-10%05:49
Davey|Workseashell11: In the KDE Settings main window, go to Regional and Accessibility05:49
seashell11Davey|Work: thanks ill see if I can get anything figured out05:49
purpleheart_USMCwhat is the command for network configuration?05:50
stremaerkyanyone who can help make my external serial modem run in my usb port via usb-serial adapter?05:50
ownerwhat speed is that modem stream05:50
stremaerkyanyone?05:51
purpleheart_USMCanyone know why administrator mode doesn't work?05:52
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=== Davey|Work grrrs, I want my media keys dammit. Otherwise I'm going back to Gnome, I swear.
ownerlol davey05:54
ownerithe funny thing is that i hardly ever use them05:54
Davey|Workits bad enough I can't get the Keyboard Configuration to show05:54
ownerbut they work perfectly in gnome05:54
Davey|Workowner: I use them almost exclusively05:54
isodudeIm sorry that I hurt you, It's something I must live with everyday..05:55
Davey|Workand you better remember that!05:55
ownerinteresting, the play and stop button on my keyboard work in rhythmbox but not amarok05:58
ownernot surprising since rhythmbox is a gnome app05:58
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ownerthis looks like an area gnome people did a better job than kde team05:59
ownermultimedia keyboard support05:59
isodudeerr05:59
isodudethat wouldn't be so hard to fix06:00
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ownerbut it works without any setup06:00
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Davey|Workgrr, this blows :/06:02
ownerdavey did you turn your ubuntu into kubuntu06:02
Davey|Workowner: yes06:02
ownerthats what i did before06:02
ownerworked well enough, but i lost multimedia keys just like you06:03
Davey|Workand now you have a clean install?06:03
ownerits too bad because kde looks so much better06:03
owneryea, but its unrelated to that issue06:04
Davey|Workmy KDE looks almost like my Gnome ;)06:04
purpleheart_USMCanyone know why administrator mode doesn't work?   Please help06:04
owneri just felt like doing a reinstall, because i enlarged the partitions06:04
Davey|Workis there a replacement for Konqueror, I *really* hate Konqueror06:04
ownerfirefox06:04
ownerkonqueror is overrated06:04
Davey|Workfor file browsing06:04
ownerbut its pretty fast if you disable ipv6 support06:04
indopurplehear_USMC it is a bug in kde06:04
Davey|WorkI already use FF for web06:05
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ownerdavey you should try krusader06:08
ownerthat is really good06:08
ownerit is a alternative kde file manager06:08
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ownersudo apt-get install krusader06:08
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jorikwe have one XP computer and one kubuntu computer in our house, now my dad also wants me to move the XP to kubuntu, and that got me wondering06:10
jorikcuz like, if i just install kubuntu and make 5 new accounts ... everyone is going to end up with two /home directories06:12
Discordianshare one /home via nfs? :-)06:12
Discordianrequires both computers running of c...06:12
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Tallia1Kubuntua couple of questions..06:13
jorikwell i was thinking, theres a fast and a slow computer ... its unlikely ppl are going to use the slow computer when the fast one is available06:13
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Tallia1Kubuntuthe first regarding ftp06:13
ownerhow slow jorik06:13
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Tallia1Kubuntuis there a way to obtain at boot time a link of a folder of the fily system to a ftp folder?06:13
Tallia1Kubuntulike the folder /home/andrea/ftp contains the data of sftp:/myftp.org06:14
jorikowner, its a P4 with i think 2Ghz and 1G ram and another im thinking AMD running at 1G with 512ram06:14
Tallia1Kubuntusomeone know how i can do it?06:14
ownerthose are pretty decent jorik06:15
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ownerboth06:15
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jorikowner, so what i should do is probably find a way to have the AMD mount it's /home from the P4, but how do i do it with the accounts? make doubles?06:15
Discordianjorik: using your XP computer right now, you also have 2 /home directories :-) so nothing is going worse..06:16
seashell11owner: I got my keyboard running, just changed it to tho microsoft pro keyboard and everrything works06:16
ownerjorik sounds like a lot of trouble06:16
ownercool seashell06:16
Discordian"changed [...]  to [...]  microsoft [...]  and everything works" - WOW :P06:17
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jorikDiscordian, yes but it used to be that my mom and elder sister used XP and me n my dad n younger sister shared the kubntu pc ...06:18
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Discordianand now your dad wants to make your mom and elder sister switch? funny :D06:19
Tallia1Kubuntuis there a way to obtain at boot time a link of a folder of the fily system to a ftp folder?06:19
jorikwell they're switching by theirselves ... so ppl have to start takin turns "workin" at the kubuntu pc06:20
DiscordianAh okay.. hmm06:20
jorik-while the xp collects dust-06:20
poimensomeone kwons something about networking? I need to connect a a windows xp machine to my kkubuntu system to pass files from the windows system to mine ....06:20
Discordianthe easiest way would be just to include the remove /home in a subdir06:20
poimenI dont kwon were to start :(06:20
Discordianso they chan exchange their data06:21
Discordian*remote :-)06:21
jorikhey cool ... that *would* be easy to do, i wonder why i didnt think of that06:22
Discordiani think everyone should be fine with that solution even if it is not the best one since you have to do all system setting changes twice, but it requires not much effort06:22
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Tallia1Kubuntupoimen: you have to use samba and file sharing06:22
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Tallia1Kubuntuif i have to execute a scipt in a folder different from the current usually i use "exec", but if i have to do it using sudo? sudo exec BLABLABLA doesn't work :(06:24
jorikDiscordian, thx06:24
jorikTallia1Kubuntu, thats because exec is not a program (=> there is no /usr/bin/exec or something like that), its a bash command06:26
DiscordianTallia1Kubuntu: sudo /path/to/script ? and chmod it with execute permissions...06:26
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poimenTallia1Kubuntu : what I have to put in apt-get install ????????????06:27
Tallia1Kubuntusamba ? :)06:28
Tallia1Kubuntutry to use synaptics and search for samba06:28
Discordiansudo apt-get install samba smb4k06:28
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Tallia1Kubuntueven though it should be installed as default in kubuntu06:28
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Tallia1Kubuntutry to search it under kcontrol in the sharing section06:28
Tallia1Kubuntunetwork sharing06:28
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varsendaggerhey i have a program that i am trying to run and it needs a certain amount of physical memory, how do i make it use swap?06:29
ownermkswap06:29
ownerswapon06:30
Discordianpoimen: or just use smb://ip.addr.of.windowscomputer or \\ip.addr.of.windowscomputer in your Konqueror if you already have set up some network shares on that mashine06:30
Discordian-s+c06:30
jorikon KDE you can use adept or kpackage instead of synaptic06:30
Tallia1KubuntuDiscordian: what about i can't change execution permission since the script is in an iso file?06:31
jorikthere's even kynaptic06:31
seashell11jorik: personally I like synaptic better though06:31
Tm_Tnothing is better than apt-get06:31
Davey|WorkDiscordian: how does one setup up network shares?06:31
Tm_Tand other apt-tools06:31
jorikyeah apt-* and dpkg all the way here06:31
Tallia1Kubuntulook the wiki about that..06:31
DiscordianDavey|Work: I dont use windows or smb :-) ask google06:31
Tallia1Kubuntuthere are plenty :)06:32
Tallia1KubuntuDiscordian: ? any idea?06:32
DiscordianTallia1Kubuntu: you execute an iso file? no, no idea ^^06:32
seashell11jorik: but is there any way to search for a package in apt-*06:32
Tallia1Kubuntunot an iso, a script inside an iso06:32
ownerthere is seashell06:32
jorik"apt-cache search foo"06:32
Tallia1Kubuntui can work around that using exec but only if not root :(06:32
owneryes joric06:33
Discordianhmm write a shellscript that uses exec and place it in your PATH :o)06:33
seashell11joric: but if you do not want to search for one in the cache, but one that needs downloaded to install?06:33
Discordianbut it's an ugly workaround :-)06:33
jorikTallia1Kubuntu, you can do sudo bash -c 'exec program'06:34
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jorikto exec something as root06:34
Tallia1KubuntuDiscordian:  :) i know06:34
Tallia1Kubuntui can't even login as root since then it needs connection to the graphical server :(06:35
Davey|WorkOK, I'm done with KDE. Back to Gnome.06:36
Tallia1Kubuntumuah, misterious man :P06:36
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gsdHi all06:37
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seashell11jorik: is there a way to search packages that can be downloaded and not ones that are in the cache? or does searching the cache search all the programs you can install?06:37
Tallia1Kubuntuinteresting ;P06:38
gsdI have a little problem, I cannot make my wireless card to work, can someone help pls.06:38
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Discordianseashell11: apt-cache search includes all installable programms found in the lists that you update using apt-get update06:38
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seashell11Discordian: thanks, now I will switch totally over to using apt-* before I would search for the packages in synaptic and then go install them with apt-get06:39
Discordian^^06:39
Discordiandpkg -l *package* lists all packages with that string, and wether they are installed.. wild cards allowed06:40
_mehmetto switch in the konsole the status as root what i should write06:40
_mehmeti am a rookie on kubuntu06:40
Discordianand apt-cache show package, displayes detailed info to one package06:40
gsdpasswd root06:40
_mehmetthanks06:40
owneryou dont need to set a root password06:41
owneryou can just use sudo su06:41
ownerit will give you a working root shell06:41
Discordiansudo -s06:41
Discordianas well06:41
_mehmetsudo su is ok06:41
_mehmetthanks06:41
_mehmeti have a trouble with my express ati card06:42
_mehmeti will update my dagger first06:42
_mehmetand root is required06:42
ownermehmet, ati how to http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=42358406:42
gsdis there is a tutorial for wireless?06:43
_mehmetthanks also owner06:43
_mehmetpci espress card06:44
_mehmetis it wireless :)06:44
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Panzerboyaloha06:45
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JestreAre there any known issues with the Wireless network control in Breezy?06:53
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monduntuis it just me or is kubuntu is much more memory efficient than the standard gnome package?06:55
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JestreDunno.. but I'm not overly impressed thus far07:00
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_mehmetto get last dagger is the code gedit /etc/apt/sources.list or ?07:02
Tm_TMez: dagger?07:02
Tm_T_mehmet:07:02
_mehmetowner where r you07:02
_mehmetsource list i mean07:02
Tm_T_mehmet: what you're doing?07:02
_mehmetfor last packages07:02
ownerim here07:02
_mehmeti don know07:03
ownermehmet try this http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:03
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Tm_Towner: what he's doing?07:05
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Tallia1Kubuntui am annoyed by updatedb!!07:06
Tm_TTallia1Kubuntu: good ;)07:06
Tallia1Kubuntuis there a way to specify the scheduler to launch it only during the night?07:06
ownerits a sources.list generator07:06
Tm_Towner: yes but what he's doing07:06
fangoriousis there a way to have file:// URLS not open in tabs in a konq window using the web profile?07:06
Tm_TTallia1Kubuntu: kcron ? run it as root07:07
Tm_Towner: what he's problem07:07
ownerim not sure, he wanted the full sources.list07:07
Tm_Toh my...07:07
Tallia1Kubuntui don't have kcron installed07:07
Tm_T_mehmet: what's the problem07:07
Tm_TTallia1Kubuntu: then install07:07
Tallia1Kubuntuwhich is the daemon that runs it?07:07
Tm_Tcron07:07
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Tallia1Kubuntucan i uninstall it ?07:07
Tm_Tnah07:07
Tm_Tyou need it07:08
Tallia1Kubuntuwhy?07:08
fangoriousTallia1Kubuntu: kcron is KDE's gui cron managing app07:08
Tm_Taye07:08
Tallia1Kubuntui see07:08
Tm_Tand cron is the app running any scheduled commands07:08
Tallia1Kubuntulet me check07:08
fangoriousTallia1Kubuntu: without cron, you will lose a lot of regular system tasks07:08
Tm_Taye07:08
Tallia1Kubuntusuch as?07:08
Prozacis it possible to change Konqueror so that i would need to double click on the folders/files before it opens? instead of the default "web browser" style?07:09
fangoriousTallia1Kubuntu: updatedb is run from the script /etc/cron.daily/slocate07:09
Tm_Tfangorious: and it's runned by cron07:09
Tm_T;)07:09
fangoriousTm_T: I assumed the presence of 'cron.daily' in the path would have made that obvious :)07:09
Tm_Tbest solution is use Kcron and move all that to run 3 times a week at night time07:09
Tallia1Kubuntufangorious: is there a way to say him, run daily on night?07:10
Tallia1Kubuntuit's not so simple by hand?07:10
Tm_TTallia1Kubuntu: yes, use Kcron, jusr run it as root and well, search system stuff07:10
Tallia1Kubuntuok, i am downloading07:10
Tm_Taye07:10
kkathmanhowdy Tm_T :)07:10
Tm_TI moved it to morning time :p07:10
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Tm_Tkkathman: hullo07:10
Tallia1Kubuntui just bought a new usb hard disk, which FS do you suggest me?07:11
fangoriousTallia1Kubuntu: you'll need to run kcron as root ('sudo kcron' from a terminal)07:11
ownerext3 is the most reliable07:11
ownerthen there is reiserfs07:12
fangoriousTallia1Kubuntu: Are you going to use it on more than just linux?07:12
Tallia1Kubuntumhh.. don't think so.. it's for backup and to keep the window emulator07:12
owneri say ext3 or reiserfs07:12
Tallia1Kubuntuvmware07:12
Tm_Tvmware isn't windows emulator07:13
fangoriousTallia1Kubuntu: then ext3 or reiserfs. I haven't done much research but I seem to get the impression that ext3 is a little more stable, while reiser can be faster07:13
Tallia1Kubuntuok07:13
ownervmware can run many different os07:13
Tm_Tnot that I'd care07:13
Tm_Tanyway, off we go ->07:13
Tallia1Kubuntuowner: i know :P07:14
fangoriousTallia1Kubuntu: in kcron, scroll down to (System Crontab) and look in Tasks. You'll see one with 'run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily;07:14
fangoriousTallia1Kubuntu: that's the one you want to change to have updatedb run at night.07:14
Prozachow can i change the default program used for watching video files? or playing music files etc07:15
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Tallia1Kubuntuin kde07:16
Tallia1Kubuntu?07:16
Prozacyes07:16
Tallia1Kubuntuby kde file association manager07:16
Tallia1Kubuntugo in kcontrol07:16
Prozacyeah but do i have to do it for each filetype?07:16
Prozacor is there some "general button" named "all video types" or something07:16
Tallia1Kubuntukdecomponents -> file associations07:16
Tallia1Kubuntui dunno07:17
Tallia1Kubuntuthere are not so many video types..07:17
Tallia1Kubuntuat least the most common07:17
fangoriousProzac: there's only 13 preconfigured video types07:18
Prozacyeah well it was also more in general, if i wanted to change other types07:18
Prozacif there was a way to set the entire group to use a default program07:18
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fangoriousah. That's one thing I miss from gnome, you can riht-click on any file, and set the default app in the properties window, and it applies to all files of the same type07:19
Prozacyeah something like that07:19
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fangoriousProzac: the only way I know in KDE is the way that Tallia1Kubuntu  mentioned (in Konqueror Settings->Configure Konqueror->File Associations)07:20
Prozacokay guess ill have to do it that way :)07:21
Tallia1Kubuntu:)07:21
fangorioushow can I get konqueror and konsole to display utf8?07:22
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Flosofthey07:22
FlosoftI have a problem07:22
Prozacthen what if i wanted to make the default option when i open audio files, to be "add to amaroK playlist" instead of just opening with amaroK?07:22
Flosoftmy KDE is extremely slow ... and my Desktop doesn't show up07:22
Flosoft(content of the desktop)07:22
ownerflosoft what are you computer specs07:22
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FlosoftP4 2,53 ... 512MB Ram07:23
fangoriousProzac: hm, I sould guess that if Amarok doesn't have an option to add that, then you would have to manually create the action, not sure if that would go in File Associations though07:23
ownershould be pretty fast07:23
Flosoftit was way faster 2 days ago07:23
Prozacthere is an action for that07:23
Prozacwhen i right click on media files and choose action07:23
Flosoftbut some package is fucked up :S07:23
Prozacbut i wanted it to trigger that action whenever i launched an audio files07:24
Prozacfile*07:24
Flosoftwas there any package update that may have changed something in this way?07:24
fangoriousProzac: moving it to the top of the list should make it the default action07:24
Prozacyeah.. Well im not sure you get me :) the default action for amaroK is just to play the file, and make a new playlist for that file. I wanna make the default so it will use the action "add to playlist"07:25
Prozacim thinking i would have to change the launch line or something07:25
Flosoftwhat is snort?07:26
Tallia1Kubuntui have a question too...07:26
jdettnerHello, i have a Problem with Amarok-Sound in Kubuntu. Normal sound workd but when trying to start an mp3 with amorak i get the message: gst-engine cannot play  MP3files... I ve set gstreamer in amarok and tried several modules but nothing worked. Does someone know what i have to do? I tried to search for this in forums but i didnt find something.07:26
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Tallia1Kubuntuwhy sometimes conqueror is opened instead of firefox?07:26
fangoriousProzac: when you said there is an action for that, I thought you meant there's an action in File Associations to do what you want, and it wasn't the default07:26
sampanflosoft  snort - Flexible Network Intrusion Detection System07:26
Tallia1Kubuntuis there a place where X preferences are expressed for program associations?07:26
transgresshey i upgraded to kde 3.5 with the repo on the kubuntu site... but aptitude keeps trying to uninstall a bunch of stuff related to kde and i'm wondering if i should let it07:26
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fangorioustransgress: I upgraded by doing 'apt-get dist-upgrade (y when prompted); apt-get -f install; apt-get dist-upgrade'07:27
Prozacohh... well there is an action when i right click on the media file and choose "Actions --> Add to amaroK playlist" but the default for "Open with --> amaroK" is to just play the file in a new playlist07:28
transgressfangorious: i've already done the upgrade.  it has gone fine.  i'm just trying to find out why aptitude is trying to remove all this stuff.07:28
fangorioustransgress: some packages are obsoleted by the new ones07:28
transgressfangorious:   koffice-data koffice-libs krita ksystemlog kubuntu-docs07:28
transgresssuch as those?07:28
transgressthat's just one of like 6 lines...07:28
fangorioustransgress: i didn't pay attention to which ones, but I let it do everything it suggested, and everything works fine for me, anecdotal but it's all I got07:29
Tallia1Kubuntuis there a place where X preferences are expressed for program associations?07:29
transgressfangorious: have you used aptitude lately or just apt-get?07:29
fangoriousProzac: hm, i'd have to dig around07:29
fangorioustransgress: i've never used aptitude, not sure why that didn't register with me in your first few comments07:30
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fangoriousjdettner: you need to install the gstreamer plugins07:31
fangoriousubotu: tell jdettner about RestrictedFormats07:31
poimenTallia1Kubuntu , Discordian : ok I am installine the samba and smb4k   I dont have rauter I will just conect the ether net cable from the windows lan to mine that should work ok right ( in windows it does)07:31
Flosoftand ALT+F2 doesn't work07:31
Flosoftwell my Keyboard doesn't work when I am logged in :S07:32
Tallia1Kubuntuyou have to configure in kconfig which folders you want to share07:32
FlosoftWindow Buttons can't be pressed :S07:32
sampanflosoft  did you install something from a non-ubuntu repo?07:32
_mehmetowner07:32
Flosoftnope07:32
Flosoftwell yes... but not the last week07:33
FlosoftI installed skype07:33
Flosoftand such stuff07:33
jdettnerfangorious: ive installed several gstreamer plugins (alsa, artsd, audiofile, cdparanoia, dv, dvd, esd, flac, gsm, hermes, jack, jpeg, ...)07:34
jdettnerill check RestrictedFormats thx07:34
sampanflosoft  those probably aren't the problem.  did you install anything right before you noticed kde acting up?07:35
Flosoftkdesktop is going on a suicide trip regulary07:35
Flosoft12595 admin     18   0  954m 369m 166m R 20.3 73.2   0:53.24 kdesktop07:35
Tallia1Kubuntuis there a place where X preferences are expressed for program associations?07:35
fangoriousjdettner: mad is the plugin to get mp3 playback, and it's not in the default repo (think it's in restricted or universe)07:35
Flosoftyep07:36
Flosoftwhen I kill kdesktop it works again07:36
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jdettnerfangorious: thx a lot. I just added the universe repositorys and installed gstreamer-mad then it worked. Thx!07:39
fangoriousjdettner: :)07:40
arrinmurrjdettner: you could also try amarok-xine - it eats up less resources07:42
`NomadAre there known issues with Amarok?  It never seems to eb stable on my machine, I end up goin gback to Totem07:42
Flosoftwhat happened to kdedesktop?07:43
fangorious`Nomad: my only complaint is I have to compile the latest version from SVN to get my m4a files into the collection (which is all 3000 of them)07:43
`Nomadfang; kewl07:43
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Tallia1Kubuntuguys, it is possible to have this thing: A USB2 HD containing a WinXP installation that can be run either inside linux from WmWare or by his own booting from USB07:47
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PanzerboyTallia1Kubuntu: it is possible07:47
PanzerboyTallia1Kubuntu: for #2, your computer should be able to boot from usb07:48
Tallia1Kubuntuit should07:48
Tallia1Kubuntui have seen the option.. but i can't understand why it is not working..07:48
transgresssome computers won't boot from usb.  but you can put a vmware image pretty much anywhere...07:48
PanzerboyTallia1Kubuntu: for #1, i don't know _for sure_ if you can boot directly or if you have to install it from within vmware07:48
Tallia1Kubuntui simply put an old HD of another laptop with winxp inside  a USB 2 reader07:49
Tallia1Kubuntuand then i selected the boot from USB07:49
Tallia1Kubuntubut nothing happend and grup started :(07:49
Panzerboywell, that happened to my laptop also07:49
Tallia1Kubuntudo i have to do something more specificc?07:49
Panzerboyi cannot boot from usb at the moment07:49
Tallia1Kubuntu:)07:49
Tallia1Kubuntu? why ?07:49
fangoriousTallia1Kubuntu: the MBR of the HD no longer reflects the right hard drive07:49
Panzerboyas you said, nothing happens :)07:49
Panzerboythe thing is07:50
Panzerboyi think i must do a bios update07:50
Tallia1Kubuntumhh i see07:50
fangoriousTallia1Kubuntu: you may need to edit the boot.ini file to point it at the right drive and partition (but I don't have any advice on how to do that)07:50
Tallia1Kubuntufangorious: ?07:50
Panzerboyhmm07:51
Tallia1Kubuntui see07:51
Panzerboyor07:51
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Panzerboyit is not possible to use grub for that?07:51
djk_is it possible that the timezone of the kde clock sometimes changes for no reason?07:51
Tallia1Kubuntudjk_: yes, sometimes it is screwed up :)07:51
Panzerboyi don't know if grub is able to boot from usb devices07:51
Tallia1Kubuntudjk_: it took me long time.. :)07:51
Tallia1Kubuntui hope so :)07:52
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Tallia1Kubuntulet me check! it could be an interesting extension of grup07:52
djk_Tallia1Kubuntu: what took you a long time?07:52
Tallia1Kubuntugrub07:52
fangoriousyou could probably configure an option in grub to boot the usb drive, but i don't think you can use grub to fix the windows bootloader files on the drive07:52
Tallia1Kubuntudjk_: crushes..07:52
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Panzerboywell, i must admit, i didn't install windows on an usb drive ever07:53
fangoriousTallia1Kubuntu: windows read a file boot.ini from the root of the Active partition that tells it where the kernel is (what harddrive, partition, path)07:53
djk_Tallia1Kubuntu: so it's perfectly normal that the timezone changes to Moscow over night for no reason?07:53
Panzerboyfangorious: yeah, that's true07:53
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Panzerboyi have no idea however how can you specify the usb drive in the boot.ini07:54
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Panzerboyhowever, strange stuff :)07:55
sweet_katehi07:55
fangoriousso my assumption is that the disk/partition specified in that file no longer reflects the right location. although i would have expected you would get a Microsoft error message about being unable to boot. so you could also have some usb device boot settings to fix07:55
sweet_katewhen i try t oremove openoffice.org07:55
sweet_kate207:55
sweet_kateit says it 'll remove kubuntu-desktop too07:55
sweet_kate!!!07:55
ubotu??07:55
sampansweet_kate  that's okay.  "kubuntu-desktop" is just an (empty) metapackage07:55
sweet_kateit s not that real one?07:56
fangorioussweet_kate: kubuntu-desktop is a meta package that identifys specific versions of other packages, bu tremoving it won't remove all of them07:56
sweet_kateafter will i still have kde?07:56
sweet_kateyes?07:56
sampanno, it's just an (empty) package with a bazillion dependencies, so that people can install the whole mess with ONE "package" instead of having to install each kde package separately07:56
sweet_kateok yes07:56
fangorioussweet_kate: having kubuntu-desktop installed makes it simpler to upgrade your kde install all at once, but isn't required07:56
sampanerrr, "yes" you will still have kde07:56
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Nemezishey, how can I kill the X without starting itself again ?07:58
sampandjk_ i don't think changing timezones for no reason is a regular "feature" of kde07:58
fangoriousanyone know how to get file url's to open in a separate window, while keeping web url's opening in a tab?07:58
Flosoftwhy is kdesktop always crashing?07:58
djk_sampan: neither do i.. yet it happened 3 times so far, always to Moscow07:58
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fangoriousdjk_: if you middle-click on the clock, it changes time zone07:59
sampandjk_  very strange!  i had a little problem with it not allowing me to change my timezone after initial install, but that was fixed in the first updates to breezy.  i have no clue why it would keep changing yours :/07:59
djk_fangorious: i know, but i don't use the middlebutton of my mouse..08:00
fangoriousdjk_: if you go into the Timezones tab of the Configure-Clock window, you can deselect all timezones you don't want to see08:00
Nemezishey, how can I kill the X without starting itself again ?08:00
Nemezis??08:00
Flosoftwhy is kdesktop always crashing?08:01
NemezisFlosoft: what version?08:01
DiscordianNemezis: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop08:01
djk_fangorious: that's not the point, i'd rather like to know how and/or why it changed08:01
fangoriousNemezis: you'll have to stop the login manager too (kdm for kubuntu, gdm for ubuntu)08:01
FlosoftKDE 3.508:01
fangoriousdjk_: i know, just trying to present a workaround. i haven't personally experienced that problem08:02
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Flosoftbrb08:02
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|Flosoft|hey again08:03
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JestreKopete have STARTTLS for Jabber?08:04
fangoriousJestre: doesn't appear to, i've been debating writing it and submitting a patch08:04
sweet_katehow can i see my installed packages in order of size?08:04
JestreDrat... this has turned into a comedy of errors :(08:05
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fangoriousJestre: does ssl not sork with your server?08:05
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fangorioussork being a synonym for work08:06
sampansweet_kate  i don't know if adept can do that, but synaptic (the ubuntu package manager) can08:06
JestreNo, I only have the one port open08:06
sweet_katewhat do i do in synaptic?08:06
sweet_katei have it08:06
sampansweet_kate  k, open it, then at bottom there's a "status" button, click it.  then check to see in preferences luan78zao!08:07
Jestrefangorious: I suppose I could open 5223 as well...08:07
sampansorry, wife just dropped some coffee on me ... ack08:08
|Flosoft|anyone with a solution to kdesktop?08:08
fangorioussweet_kate: there should be a "size" button as a column header in the pane that shows packages08:08
sampansweet_kate  click status, then "installed", then "size" (on the right) -- should order the packages by size08:08
sampanif you don't see a size column, you can add it in preferences08:08
sweet_kateok08:09
sweet_katetnx08:09
sweet_kate:*08:09
sweet_katesampan: where r u from?08:09
gsdis there some that can help me with wifi08:10
sampansweet_kate  i'm in berkeley california now.  yourself?08:10
sweet_kateitaly!!!08:10
sampanNICE!  :)08:10
crimsungsd: what about wifi?08:11
sweet_katesampan: can u accept queries?08:11
JestreBeware of the gui wifi tools :)08:11
_mehmeti downloaded source from http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:11
_mehmetbut there is a warning08:11
fangoriousJestre: why? i find they work well enough unless using wpa08:11
_mehmetThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or something similar. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.08:12
gsdcrimsun, Cant connect to the wireless router08:12
_mehmetwhatz that08:12
sampansweet_kate  sure :)08:12
_mehmetowner :)08:12
sweet_katei ve messaged u in query!08:12
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fangoriousgsd: does the router broadcast ssid? require wep? require wpa? (wpa2? personal tkip or aes?)08:13
Jestrefangorious: First I tried the Wireless applet, and clicking the Administrative mode allowed me to edit the info, but never activated the network08:13
gsdssid08:13
NemezisKubuntu's KDE contains one KDE improvment patch from kde-look, how can I make it not using?08:13
NemezisI dont need it08:13
fangoriousJestre: there's a checkbox to automatically try one of the configured networks, and a button to manually activate, did you use either? (i actually prefer gnome's network-manager, but the one in the backports repo)08:14
Jestrefangorious: I tried both, neither seemed to have any effect08:14
JestreSo I configured it through the Network Settings applet...08:14
JestreWent back, made a change to a setting (not the password) and saved it.. it wrote *'s to the key field, rather than the key08:15
NemezisI dont want to use this http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1696208:15
Nemezisit makes KDE slow08:15
fangoriousJestre: network-manager is pretty sweet, very reminiscent of apple's tool. but at the moment it requires bind as a local caching server08:15
JestreSo I re-entered the key...  and this time it saved it, but also saved a corrupt entry for the (thus far unconfigured eth0), which causes nothing to start08:15
fangoriousgsd, what wifi chipset do you have on your machine?08:16
JestreI finally found the 'interfaces' file, hand edited everything and brought up the network the old-fashioned way :)08:16
JestreI'm not impressed08:16
NemezisI dont want to use this http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=1696208:16
crimsungsd: does your wireless access point require encryption?08:16
fangoriousNemezis: then don't ... ?08:16
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Nemezisfangorious: it omes by default with kubuntu08:17
gsdno08:17
fangoriousNemezis: you can change the theme/style/behavior as much as you like08:17
Discordianye, the mouse selection is really slow in breezy, i noticed that as well08:17
gsdfangorious, it's Wireless/Pro 2.408:18
fangoriousgsd: who makes it?08:18
Nemezisfangorious: are u ok? did u even see the link?08:18
Nemezisit is not theme08:18
Nemezisit is some stupid improvement08:18
crimsungsd: ``iwlist scan'' should list the ssid, then08:18
gsdfangorious, who makes what?08:18
fangoriousNemezis: guess i didn't read it closely. the first comment was about a change to the plastik theme, so i assumed using a theme other than plastik would mean you aren't subject to the improvement08:19
gsdcrimsun, you're right08:19
gsdevrything is in there, but then...08:19
Nemezisfangorious: I am using Lipstik and yet I am influenced by the "mprovment"08:20
Nemezisimprovment*08:20
fangoriousgsd: your wifi card/chip. Wireless/Pro 2.4 doesn't mean anything to me. since you can scan, i'm guessing the drivers are loading and the card is basically functioning08:20
fangoriousgsd, you can do 'sudo iwconfig eth0 ssid <ssid>' to manually specify it (substituting your interface for eth0)08:20
gsdit's says unrecognized wireless request "ssid"08:22
crimsuniwconfig uses essid, not ssid08:22
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Nemeziswhy do u even bother with such shit like kde improvments, KDE ownz as it is, original08:22
fangoriousNemezis: i already admitted i didn't read it carefully enough. if there are source code changes to the core kde components then you probably can't use the kubuntu packages without getting that behavior08:22
Nemezisfangorious: ok thanks08:23
sampanthere's no need for vulgarity08:23
fangoriouswhat a whiner08:23
crimsunit's best to ignore those comments08:24
crimsunyou can't please everyone08:24
gsdfangorious, ok then?08:24
fangoriousgsd: does 'iwconfig eth0' indicate that you are now associated with the AP?08:25
gsdyes08:25
ClayGis there a nix program that can interact with ms publisher?08:25
fangoriousgsd: if you're wanting dhcp, you can try 'ifup --force eth0'08:26
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gsdfangorious, it's says SIOCADDRT: File exist08:26
crimsungsd: ``ifconfig -a'' output --> pastebin, please08:27
gsdsome kind of hard to paste, couse I am on my desktop right now, and I am trying to connect my laptop ...08:28
crimsungsd: ok, I just need to know what kernel module you're using for wifi08:28
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crimsungsd: ``lsmod'' will tell you08:28
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HiTiThello, I have a big problem, i turned on my computer. and the resolution is 640*480, and i cant change it , what should I do?08:29
crimsun!tell HiTiT about fixres08:29
fangorious!fixres08:30
ubotuPlease read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:30
HiTiTok 1thanks08:31
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_mehmetThe APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or something similar. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.08:33
_mehmetwhat do i have to do08:33
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_matthias_mehmet: err.. anyone answering you yet?08:36
Nemeziswhen I try to install NVidia drivers it says that 'cc' is not installed but I have g++/gcc compilers intsalled, what do I need to install further?08:36
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_mehmetno08:36
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Nemeziswhen I try to install NVidia drivers it says that 'cc' is not installed but I have g++/gcc compilers intsalled, what do I need to install further?08:38
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crimsunNemezis: do the included Nvidia drivers not suffice?08:40
crimsunNemezis: i.e., http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:40
Nemeziscrimsun: I cant watch DVDs with xv driver for Xine engine because the showing of dvd movies is so slow08:40
Nemezisverymuch slow08:40
Nemezisand I was adviced on installing newer nvidia drivers08:41
Nemezisfrom nvidia.com08:41
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crimsunNemezis: then you need to install linux-headers-$(uname -r) gcc-3.4 build-essential08:41
_mehmetadept says could not open cache08:41
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_mehmetany suggestion ?08:42
crimsun_mehmet: what's the issue?08:42
_mehmeti ca not open adept08:42
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crimsun_mehmet: sudo apt-get check08:42
_mehmetit says couldn't open cache08:42
crimsun_mehmet: sudo apt-get update08:43
_mehmetE: Type 'BYE' is not known on line 2 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list08:43
_mehmetE: The list of sources could not be read.08:43
_mehmetsays08:43
crimsun_mehmet: your sources.list is broken08:43
_mehmetwho broke it08:44
_mehmet:)08:44
crimsunyou?08:44
_mehmetwhat should i do08:44
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_mehmetme08:44
crimsun!repos08:44
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource08:44
Nemeziscrimsun: gcc-3.4 build-essential >08:44
Nemezis??08:44
crimsun_mehmet: go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/604708:44
Nemeziswhat is build-essential08:44
_mehmetok08:44
crimsunNemezis: it's the metapackage for essential build-tools08:44
crimsunNemezis: however, the kernel is compiled with gcc-3.4 not gcc-4.008:44
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Nemeziscrimsun: yes I know that thanks08:45
Nemezis:)08:45
_mehmetcrimsun08:46
_mehmetshould i write all of them to terminal08:46
_mehmet:(08:46
crimsun_mehmet: save it as /etc/apt/sources.list08:48
crimsunthen sudo apt-get update08:48
Nemeziscrimsun: in the repository only comes build-essential with gcc 4.008:48
_mehmetok08:48
crimsunNemezis: um, that's why you have to install gcc-3.408:49
Nemezisthanks08:50
Nemezis:)08:50
Nemezisgoint init 408:50
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crimsunum, init 4 is identical to what you're in.08:51
crimsunUbuntu, like Debian, doesn't play runlevel games.08:51
crimsun2-5 are identical08:51
crimsunI presume what you want to do is sudo invoke-rc.d kdm stop08:51
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_mehmetcrimsun08:52
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_mehmetit does not work08:52
_mehmetthere is already sources list that directory08:53
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Anoebiscrimsun: ok I screwed the system08:53
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AnoebisI remove apt-get and Adept somehow08:54
Anoebisdont ask me how08:54
Anoebis:((08:54
Anoebishow can I get them back08:54
buzzyi need to rename all files in a dir with letter "s" and change "s" to "a" ..how can i do it?08:54
Anoebisplease anyone HELP08:55
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AnoebisI NEED HELP GOD DAMN IT !!!!!!!108:56
Anoebisi removed apt-get and adept so I can't get some packages back installed08:57
Blippebuzzy, got the same problem, look up "rename" and do a "man rename"08:58
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sampanbuzzy  there's a nifty little file manager program, called krusader, if you install it and the "krename" package, you can do batch renames very easily -- i did 850 renames of mp3 files (changing all " " to "_") in 5 seconds -- VERY handy08:59
Blippebuzzy you could play around with "rename -n" which won't affect your files but only spit out what the results would be08:59
Blippeoh, yeah, and there is krusader :D08:59
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sampankrusader + krename = da bomb08:59
Anoebisi removed apt-get and adept so I can't get some packages back installed09:00
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Blippekrusader is almost as useful as the win-program total commander if you are aware of it...09:00
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AnoebisHow can I install *.deb package without apt-get with dependencies resolving09:01
Anoebis?09:01
Anoebisfrom CD09:01
Blippewhy not use apt-get if it is from the cd?09:01
AnoebisBlippe: because I removed apt-get somehow09:01
Blippeotherwise: dpkg09:01
Anoebisso I want to get it back09:01
crimsunyou removed apt?09:02
crimsunwhy on Earth did you do that?09:02
Anoebishave no idea how09:02
crimsunjust find the apt and apt-utils debs and dpkg -i them09:02
AnoebisI must have pressed09:03
Anoebisk09:03
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ganymedhallo09:04
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_mehmetcrimsun09:04
_mehmeti can not save it09:05
_mehmetcause it does not overwrite it09:05
Anoebiscrimsun: restored everything09:05
crimsun_mehmet: wget http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d604709:06
crimsun_mehmet: sudo mv d6047 /etc/apt/sources.list09:06
_mehmetok09:06
ganymeddoes anybody "want" to help me with a debian prob?09:07
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crimsun#debian is better for that, ganymed09:07
jjessewhat do i need installed to rip cd into .mp3 using kaudiocreator?09:07
ganymed:) guess where i am...09:08
crimsunjjesse: well it suggests lame, so try installing it09:08
sampanjjesse  i think the lame package might help09:08
jjessegrin thanks09:08
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polachokhello, can i get kbfx package for breezy anywhere?09:08
ganymedok. in debian nobody can help me... so i just ask...09:11
ganymedwhen boot i get a kernel panic. my box says: reiserfs: sh2600: md2: read_super_block: bread failed. any ideas?09:11
crimsunganymed: have you searched the Web?09:16
ganymedyes09:18
ganymeda lot of links are broken for this topic... strange09:18
ganymedbut i have an idea09:18
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buzzywhy on my kubuntu a system sound (i.e. an error sound) comes some seconds after the advising message has come up???09:19
buzzyhave i some trouble with alsa09:20
buzzy?09:20
crimsunbuzzy: do you have any other audio troubles?09:20
buzzyi do know!09:20
ganymedit's the same for me09:20
buzzyonly a delay09:20
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crimsunit's probably i/o starvation then09:21
ganymedand it is the same in sarge... seems to be an alsa prob09:21
buzzyganymed: u refer to me?09:21
ganymedyes09:21
buzzyhow to solve?09:21
crimsunum no, it's not an ALSA problem unless it exists everywhere09:21
crimsuni.e. sound always exhibits such a delay09:21
ganymedyes, it does!09:22
ganymedeverywhere, with everything... no matter what the systems is supposed to accoustically say09:23
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sphere02ngon som har kompilerat knifty win decoration09:24
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_mehmeti received a list from http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic09:31
_mehmetand i said fetch updates on adept09:31
_mehmetis it enough to get last list09:31
_mehmetit seems 17260 available packages09:32
_mehmetis it ok?09:32
crimsunganymed: um, does killing artsd and using aplay directly exhibit this problem?09:32
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_mehmetdo i have a proplem still crimsun09:33
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crimsun_mehmet: are you still getting errors with Adept and apt-get?09:34
_mehmetno09:34
_mehmetit is done09:34
crimsun_mehmet: then no09:34
ganymedsry, but i have been busy with some other nasty problems... so i haven't been able to test anything concerning arts...09:34
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_mehmeti mean 940 installed 93 upragable and 17260 available packages means i get the last sources?09:35
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ganymedwell, not kubuntu related!09:37
sphere02anyone got the knifty decoration kompiled09:39
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globehow do I disable IPv6 on my computer?09:41
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skberaI have a strange problem. My display is suddenly chaged to 640*480 when i restarted my PC. the display properties dialog box also showing just one resolution setting(640*480). How can I change this back to 1024*768. Please anyone help...09:45
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ganymed i get the following when i boot: UDF-fs: No partition found | Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block09:50
ganymedany ideas?09:50
_wotnargskbera: Do sudo dpkg-reconfigure x-server09:51
Blippesudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xor09:51
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_wotnargwhat Blippe said, except xorg09:52
Blippe_wotnarg, why not the xorg?09:53
_wotnargno, it should be xorg09:53
_wotnargnot xor :p09:53
robotgeekBlippe: what does the -phigh do?09:53
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skbera_wotnarg: Thankyou very much. I am looking for this command.09:54
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Blipperobotgeek, i don't really know (trying to find out right now), but ubuntu's xorg.conf recommends it so it can't be bad!09:55
Blippewotnarg, ah...09:56
Blippethe -p sets the priority and the value is high therefor -phigh09:56
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Blippethe priority of the questions that is... so beginners won't get questions like "Please enter the video card's bus identifier."09:58
robotgeekBlippe: thank you09:59
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mikeI have a Linksys WUSB54G ver.4 network adaptor and I can't figure out how to get it to work.  Can somebody help me?  (I think I need to use ndiswrapper, but I'm  completely new to Linux so I get confused whenever I try to figure it out)10:05
robotgeekmike, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards10:05
robotgeekmike: check if your card is listed10:05
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_kaeruI need help setting up my wireless card. It works if I use iwconfig to set the channes, essid, and wep key but I cant figure out how do this automatically at boot10:09
_kaeruI've been playing with /etc/network/interfaces but nothings worked10:09
robotgeek_kaeru, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto10:10
mikerobotgeek, it's not listed on that site you gave me but if you go here http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#L  and go to 20 under L it's listed there, but i'm not sure what to do from there (also, i'm using the adaptor on USB1.1)10:11
robotgeek!ndiswrapper10:11
ubotuI guess ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper10:11
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joel86hello,, when i install linux/kubuntu witch system on the list should i pick and what shoult i take for sys if i just want one partition for space10:15
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Nemezishi me again10:15
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NemezisI installed Nvidia newest drivers but still when watching DVDs, the show is very slow10:16
_kaeruNemezis: Have you enabled DMA for your drive?10:17
hugelmopfjoel86: out of which list?10:17
Nemezis_kaeru: yes I have10:17
Nemezis_kaeru: whoups10:18
Nemezisnope10:18
Nemezishdparm ?10:18
Nemeziswhat command enables dma ?10:18
hugelmopfhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA10:19
vega-hdparm10:19
_kaeruedit /etc/hdparm.conf10:19
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tictricah, yes 64bit goes right smooth. I just wonder why I didn't install it earlier.10:21
joel86hugelmopf:when i install kubuntu i get a list of what ui want to install on witch partition,,, like exp 3 exp210:21
hugelmopfjoel86: ok, i understand. if you don't have any personal preference, you might want to go for ext3 as main partition file system.10:22
hugelmopfjoel86: this is only the choice about which filesystem (like FAT or NTFS in windows).10:23
joel86ye ok,, but there are like 10 choises10:26
hugelmopfjoel86: as i said... use ext3.10:26
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joel86ok,, and the partition that i just want for space ??10:30
hugelmopfjoel86: do you want to access it from windows as well?10:31
Blippejoel86, ext3 is for you! all the way, most of the others are primarily for old or not for the home-user!10:31
hugelmopfjoel86: if you have to access that space from windows, then you should choose VFAT as file system.10:31
Blippeoh, and (as hugelmopf was going to say) if you want to have a double boot system and both systems was going to use the files , use fat!10:32
joel86ok,, i dont have windows on my computer so,, vfat or the other ??10:32
hugelmopfjoel86: ext310:32
Blippeext3 joel8610:32
joel86yes i got that ext on one parttition,, but i have to have some system on my second partition ?10:33
hugelmopfif you want to store files on there: yes you need a file system.10:34
Blippeuse ext3 on that one too!10:34
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joel86dont i get the same things on myc both partitions if i do that ??10:35
hugelmopfjoel86: this is only the file system, not files.10:35
hugelmopfjoel86: it is what you call "formatting a drive/partition" under windows10:35
joel86but i dont have windows10:36
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hugelmopfjoel86: right, this was just an analogy.10:36
BlippeI don't really think you will ever see any difference whichever fs you choose!10:36
joel86ah ok =) ,, well i try whit that =)10:36
dell500how do  you mount the ipod with out it being read only?10:37
Blippeand (on a sidenote) even ubotu claims that http://www.fs-driver.org/ is good enough to use with win and thereby having an ext3fs won't stop your windowsing needs :D10:38
Blippe!ext310:38
ubotusomebody said ext3 was a filesystem that Linux can be installed on and can be read/wrote from Windows via http://www.fs-driver.org10:38
Blippehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto10:38
Blippedell500 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto10:39
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dell500thanks10:39
_mehmethow can i reboot on konsole10:40
tictric_mehmet: I bet10:40
_mehmetI bet10:40
_mehmetshould i write i bet10:41
_mehmet:)10:41
hugelmopf_mehmet: "sudo reboot"?10:41
dell500nope, that doesn't work10:42
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Blippeso, your ipod does show up on the desktop, but as an readonly device?10:42
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Blippedell500 check which user is the owner of the files10:44
KnowerrorsIs there a way to bring up the alt+tab prog switching menu, using only mouse buttons?  For example (click/hold left, then right, then release), like a mouse gesture, but only using the buttons10:45
dell500good call Blippe10:46
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dell500says root is...10:46
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Flosofthey10:46
dell500is there a way to change owners or something, like chown...10:46
Blippedell500 check how chown wors then: sudo chown (parameters)10:46
Flosoftdoes anyone know why Kaffeine crashes often with Xine?10:47
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Blippeflosoft, good question, i'm still awaiting the answer to that... Althugh, for some strange reason, mine just stopped crashing one day...10:48
Blippei can't start noatun nowodays instead10:49
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Flosoftplssss ... I would need a fix of that!10:53
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KnowerrorsAny Gmail users here?  I am trying to send an email with 2 png attachments, one is 100k the other 90k, the message never sends with konq, same with opera, and firefox says "document contains no data" after a few minutes, any help please... I can send same attachments fine with yahoo email11:02
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neoncodeHey is their anyway to reuse my win XP Home installl to run windows programs on linux?11:06
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Knowerrorsneoncode: I think vmware would work for you, Ive heard theres a free version for desktop users...11:09
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Steven_Mhi all11:09
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Panzerboyany idea why on my brand new kubuntu the dns resolving takes ages?11:14
hugelmopfPanzerboy: could be IPv6 related issues. try the following workaround:11:14
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hugelmopfexport KDE_NO_IPV6="true"11:15
hugelmopf^^ add this to ~/.bashrc11:15
hugelmopfand restart KDE11:15
Panzerboyhugelmopf: ok, i will11:15
Panzerboythanks a bunch!11:15
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Puaffhugelmopf: what yor are saying is only ralated to kde apps?11:16
hugelmopfPuaff: yes11:16
hugelmopfPanzerboy: i forgot to mention that. did you have problems with non-KDE applications?11:16
Panzerboyhugelmopf: didn't try yet11:17
Panzerboyhugelmopf: don't seem to have any non-kde apps installed :)11:18
Panzerboyhugelmopf: as i said, it's a brand new kubuntu installation11:18
hugelmopfPanzerboy: if the above works and you want to make it system wide, add "KDE_NO_IPV6=true" to /etc/environment.11:18
Panzerboyhugelmopf: oki11:18
Panzerboyhugelmopf: i'm just in the process of an upgrade to kde 3.5, so i'll try the workaround as soon as the upgrade is finished11:19
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Panzerboywhich will be in a half of hour or so11:19
Panzerboyone thing though that surprised me rather pleasantly is that the wireless network worked out of the box11:21
Panzerboyi was prepared for a long struggle :)(11:21
Panzerboywith windows drivers and printed docs to tackle it :)11:21
PuaffPanzerboy: are you compiling kde yourself? In affirmative case, do you use kde from a /home/nnnnnnn directory?11:22
PuaffPanzerboy: I mean, are you going to overwrite kde file packages?11:22
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PanzerboyPuaff: i am not compilling kde myself11:26
PanzerboyPuaff: i am just upgrading from the packaged that ridell made11:26
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glickhi11:27
PuaffPanzerboy: uops, I dint't know that there was a 3.5 package =:-)11:28
PanzerboyPuaff: yes :)11:28
PanzerboyPuaff: one sec11:28
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Panzerboydeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main11:29
Panzerboyhere are the packages11:30
PuaffPanzerboy: a lot of thx ;-)11:30
PanzerboyPuaff: you're welcome11:30
JestreWhich firefox do I install?  'firefox' or 'mozilla-firefox'?11:30
PanzerboyPuaff: you have to add ridell's gpg key to your ring11:30
naliothJestre: they are both the same11:31
PanzerboyPuaff: go to kubuntu.org and there on the homepage there is a link that explains how to do it11:31
PuaffPanzerboy: I'll take a look, many thx11:31
Jestrenalioth: Thanks11:31
PanzerboyPuaff: you're welcome11:31
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glickthinking of givin kubuntu a shot11:34
glickvs ubuntu11:34
glickheard kubuntu has a much tighter and sexier desktop than ubuntu11:34
Blippeglick tighter?11:35
glicktighter as in more intergrated11:35
glickmore organized11:35
Knowerrorsglick: youre asking people who are alread biased towards kubuntu :)11:35
Blippeglick, just do a "sudo apt-get install kde"11:35
tictric_glick: just use the two of them alongside eachother and find out which one you like better11:35
KnowerrorsI agree that it is, and has more features and customization11:35
hugelmopfglick: even better "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"11:35
Blippeglick, answer the questions and restart!11:36
glickheh yeah11:36
glicki need to do a re-install anyway11:36
Puaffglick: I have been an gnome user for many time, I made the mistake "apt-get install kde" in ubuntu, now I'm always in kde11:36
Panzerboyglick: you're right, kde is tighter AND SEXIER than gnome :)11:36
glickguess ill do that first to check it out though11:36
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KnowerrorsIf you want things simple, stay with Gnome/Ubuntu, they give you few choices, so less to think about, also less fun to use11:36
Panzerboyglick: another thing you can try is the live cd11:36
KnowerrorsKDE Rules!11:36
Panzerboysee if it's sexy enough for you :)11:36
PanzerboyKnowerrors: yeah, even linus said it11:37
Panzerboyso IT MUST be true11:37
glicki need to buy a mouse11:37
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Knowerrorsyou can use kde with just keyboard11:37
PanzerboyPuaff: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php11:37
glickyeah i know i have laptop with a mouse on it11:37
Knowerrorsthere are  hotkeys cusomization for sure11:37
glickbut i need a real mouse11:37
tictric_glick: yep, it helps with kde11:37
PuaffI began with KDE after reading a post of someone talking about why to change to kde11:37
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glickheh i have a dell inspiron 820011:38
PuaffI became interested in KDE because of the technical part of kde11:38
glickits a portable desktop11:38
glickclunkiest and heaviest freakin laptop there is11:38
PuaffPanzerboy: ;)11:39
stevenjI installed kdevelop to learn programming; however, kdevelop c/c++ (IDE), etc does not start using menu.  Is there something missing? I installed with adept. I do not get any errors11:39
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glickis kdevelop an IDE?11:40
Puaffglick: yes11:40
Panzerboyglick: some say so :)11:40
stevenjyes11:40
glickugh im not a big IDE fan11:40
Panzerboystevenj: try to launch it from the cli11:40
stevenjkdesigner will start11:40
Panzerboyglick: yeah, vim powah!11:40
Puaffglick: kdevelop is amazing11:40
Panzerboy:)11:40
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glickalso last time i used kdevelop it went down more often then a 2 dollar crack hoe11:40
stevenjPanzerboy is there anyway to fix the menu?11:41
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glickPuaff, whats so great about kdevelop?11:41
tuskerninihi there all... how do i replace gnome with kde when i have ubuntu installed?11:41
glicktuskernini, apparently apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:41
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Panzerboytuskernini: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:42
Panzerboybut it won't replace gnome11:42
tuskerniniglick, ok, i am bussy doing that.. so i hope it works.. it just changes the desktop hey?11:42
KnowerrorsAnyone use this http://kidsquid.com/programs/ubuntu/firefox-1.5.0-0nonfree1_i386.tar.gz for FF 1.5?11:42
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Panzerboyit will just add kde :)11:42
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glickone feature that i wish they had in an ide11:42
Panzerboystevenj: i have no idea, i don't have kdevelop installed yet11:42
glickwhen i create a new struct11:42
tuskerninithanx glick, panzerboy11:42
glickin c11:42
glickor a class in c++11:42
Blippewhy install libakode2 instead of akode?11:43
Panzerboystevenj: i have just finished installing kubuntu and i am upgrading to kde 3.5 now11:43
glickwhen i use that struct like Point pt; it would highlight the new data type11:43
Puaffglick: it is very integrated, it is very useful, I think it lacks of online api help facilities11:43
Puaffglick: like eclipse, netbeans, etc.11:43
tuskerniniglick, when i install kubuntu-desktop, does it remove gnome-desktop?11:43
tictrictuskernini: no11:43
Puaffglick: it is like borland C++, do you remember?11:43
Panzerboyanother 8 minutes to go :)11:43
Panzerboyeclipse is also good11:44
glicktuskernini, no11:44
stevenjtusk, I found that installing kubuntu (clean) is best11:44
tuskerninitictrick: thanx, so i will be able to choose?11:44
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glickPuaff, yeah kina11:44
Panzerboya guy that worked on kdevelop, alexander dymo, created some plugins for kde development for eclipse11:44
Panzerboythey looked kinda cool11:44
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Panzerboydidn't try them though11:44
tuskerninistevenj, i still have to sort out data on the drive before doing that.. thanx11:44
hugelmopftuskernini: yes, you will be able to choose on login11:44
tictrictuskernini: yep, but as stevenj pointed out there might some config difficulties but they are not very significant and can be fixed later on if you stay with kde11:45
tuskerninitictric: i chose kdm ... as default11:45
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tictrictuskernini: that's not the point but if you are not a native english speaker you might have some trouble with locales11:46
glickit has been  a long time since i used a kde11:47
glickheh i mean an ide11:47
tuskerninitictrick, i do speak it well thanx, will play around with it anyway11:47
Puaffglick: why don't you like an ide? they are useful to develop11:47
glickPuaff, i dont know i just havent found any i really liked,11:48
Puaffglick: maybe the success of java is not java itself, but its ide11:48
glicki guess ill check it out11:50
glicki dont really do gui programming11:50
glickmore systems programming11:50
stevenjkdevelop multilaunguage will start11:50
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Puaffstevenj: do you know if online popup method help are going to be improved?11:51
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juifhello channel, i am trying to get Ardour to run on kubuntu. so far, it tells me i need to open JACK, well, apparently JACK was installed when Ardour was, but its not to be found anywhere.11:53
stevenjI see-kdevel in kubuntu menu contains kdevelop not kdevelop311:53
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tuskerniniwoops, installed kubuntu-desktop, and logged out... and the pc hung on login.. had to do a hard boot... booting now11:55
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juifalso, since i installed ardour, my splash screen has been appearing only sometimes. other times a standard linux text scroll thing11:56
tuskerniniok, kubuntu login screen, but on startup... still looks like gnome... with kubuntu programs added...11:58
Puaffjuif: I got the same, but I don't think it is important, in fact I would prefer to have only text screen11:58
Panzerboyso brb11:59
Tm_Ttuskernini: err, you should choose KDE in login11:59
Panzerboykde 3.5, here i come :)11:59
stevenjyes, that worked. :)11:59
Tm_Ttuskernini: there's "sessions" or similar somewhere there, you still have gnome as "default"11:59
tuskerniniTm_T: i will look for it.. thanx12:00
Tm_Tnp12:00
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Puafftuskernini: do you want to have kdm as default login manager?12:02
Tm_TPuaff: he already has, as he said12:02

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