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| LaserJock | Kyral: got your connection undercontrol? :-) | 12:59 |
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| hyperactivecrond | hey all | 01:30 |
| mdke | hello | 01:33 |
| Burgwork | salut | 01:35 |
| hyperactivecrond | yo | 01:36 |
| mdke | -> bed | 01:37 |
| hyperactivecrond | later | 01:55 |
| hyperactivecrond | has there been any posting on the lists? i haven't got anything lately... | 01:57 |
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| Burgundavia | mgalvin, no wiki team for you! ;) Just kidding. I approved you | 06:19 |
| LaserJock | Burgundavia: are there ever wiki team meetings? | 06:20 |
| Burgundavia | LaserJock, no, they are merged into the great doc team meetings | 06:20 |
| Madpilot | LaserJock: wikiteam = docteam, pretty much | 06:20 |
| Burgundavia | *greater | 06:20 |
| LaserJock | ok, just wondered | 06:20 |
| mgalvin | Burgundavia: thanks :) | 06:49 |
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| LaserJock | I did a svn status in my checkout of the repo and I have several lines beginning with a ? that are files in ubuntu/desktopguide/C/db/ what does that mean? | 07:11 |
| Madpilot | LaserJock: man svn might tell you :) | 07:14 |
| Madpilot | bleh, never mind, it doesn't... | 07:14 |
| LaserJock | well, I am looking in the svn book but I think I know what it means | 07:14 |
| LaserJock | but I'm not sure what to do about it | 07:15 |
| Madpilot | svn status on my checkout gives me a ? on one old .diff of mine that I haven't deleted yet, and two docs that AFAIK I've never touched - not sure | 07:15 |
| LaserJock | hmm, I don't know what happened to mine | 07:17 |
| LaserJock | Madpilot: do you have anything in ubuntu/desktopguide/C/db/ ? | 07:17 |
| Madpilot | when I run "svn status"? No. | 07:18 |
| LaserJock | at all? | 07:19 |
| LaserJock | I mean if you "ls" the directory? | 07:19 |
| Madpilot | it's empty | 07:21 |
| Madpilot | actually, no it's not, there's a dot file there - .svn | 07:21 |
| Madpilot | run "ls -la" | 07:21 |
| LaserJock | ok, I have 9 files in there | 07:22 |
| Madpilot | all I show w/ "ls -la" is one file, .svn | 07:23 |
| Madpilot | you can delete the whole directory then run svn up if you think you've got stuff accumulated in there that shouldn't be there | 07:24 |
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| LaserJock | so svn up doesn't delete anything? or just doesn't delete files that have changed locally? | 07:26 |
| Madpilot | TBH, I'm not sure - it won't delete files that're created locally, like .diff files | 07:27 |
| LaserJock | Madpilot: ok, thanks for the help | 07:28 |
| Madpilot | np | 07:28 |
| Madpilot | I should do some reading on SVN & CVS soon, I want to start a personal archive for some of my own projects... | 07:28 |
| LaserJock | well, I need to start using svn and svn-buildpackage for packaging and I will hopefully get docteam repo access soon so I better know what I'm doing :-) | 07:30 |
| LaserJock | I've never really had to use svn or CVS much other than to checkout source for apps | 07:30 |
| Madpilot | likewise | 07:32 |
| LaserJock | then I also need to wrap my head around bzr | 07:34 |
| robitaille | Madpilot: why don't you bry bzr? it's pretty simply to start keeping track of changes for some of your local files | 07:39 |
| robitaille | s/bry/try | 07:39 |
| LaserJock | it does seem to be better suited for local repositories | 07:40 |
| LaserJock | but I need to learn svn too since it is used soo much | 07:41 |
| LaserJock | I think I have one repo in svn and one in bzr :-) | 07:41 |
| Madpilot | robitaille: I'll have a look, maybe later this weekend - one app I use a lot (Screem) uses CVS too, so it would be nice to take advantage of that integration | 07:41 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot, are you going downtown tomorrow? | 08:43 |
| Madpilot | Burgundavia: doesn't look like it - I thought I was (I'm not working, anyway) | 08:50 |
| Burgundavia | Madpilot, would you be able to swing by before 12 with a printed copy so I could photocopy some? | 08:51 |
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| dsas | What's the best way to get involved with the doc team? | 12:33 |
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| crimsun | dsas: have you read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamProjects and checked out https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos ? | 01:28 |
| dsas | crimsun, i'll check those out, thanks. | 02:13 |
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| mdke | crimsun, future reference: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/GettingStarted | 03:33 |
| mdke | i'll stick it in the topic | 03:34 |
| crimsun | mdke: great, thanks | 03:35 |
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| hyperactivecrond | hmm... *thursday's news* if macbooks and imacs have intel procs... this needs to be documented i assume...? | 05:21 |
| hyperactivecrond | for installation | 05:21 |
| hyperactivecrond | expensive as balls for the macbook pro | 05:22 |
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| tac0 | hi | 08:23 |
| mdke | hi tac0 | 08:23 |
| tac0 | when i boot from the live cd | 08:23 |
| tac0 | it goes then i get 'x server failed to load' | 08:23 |
| tac0 | or something like that :| | 08:23 |
| mdke | you'll need #ubuntu for that, I'm afraid | 08:24 |
| mdke | this is the documentation team | 08:24 |
| tac0 | well im in there and i went to the help site and saw this channel | 08:24 |
| tac0 | so i thought id try ;) | 08:24 |
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| mdke | ok I'm gonna try a new apache configuration on the help/doc.ubuntu.com, hopefully will make things a bit quicker | 08:30 |
| mdke | looks better | 08:31 |
| mdke | if anyone sees this, test and report | 08:31 |
| crimsun | seems pretty snappy | 08:32 |
| crimsun | can't comment on prior | 08:32 |
| mdke | slow as hell :) | 08:32 |
| crimsun | then sure, I'd say it's a considerable difference | 08:33 |
| mdke | good | 08:33 |
| mdke | tricky to tell how it performs at different times | 08:33 |
| mdke | maybe there is some kind of utility for that sort of thing | 08:33 |
| Madpilot | mdke: they both seem fast - faster than they used to be, I'm pretty sure | 08:34 |
| Madpilot | There's still a CSS bug in both pages, though - one that Opera catches & FF doesn't... | 08:34 |
| Madpilot | in Opera the top banner doesn't touch the top or sides of the window | 08:35 |
| Madpilot | http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.ubuntu.com%2F | 08:36 |
| Madpilot | http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdoc.ubuntu.com | 08:36 |
| mdke | oh, i'll have a look at that, thanks | 08:37 |
| mdke | i remember you raised it before, but I kinda left it for henrik | 08:37 |
| Madpilot | yeah. It's not a bug that FF catches, so I'm not surprised it's been ignored :P | 08:38 |
| mdke | i can't believe you use opera dude | 08:38 |
| mdke | shocking stuff | 08:38 |
| Madpilot | FF feels crippled in it's default install - I'd have to spend a couple of days installing plugins - some of which might not work - to get FF to do everything Opera does right out of the box... | 08:39 |
| mdke | i like epiphany | 08:40 |
| mdke | Madpilot, the css validates, which of those html validation problems is the cause, do you know? | 08:40 |
| Madpilot | not sure, I haven't looked thru the entire validation report | 08:40 |
| Madpilot | Epiphany has some nice features - I like how it handles bookmarks | 08:41 |
| mdke | the only thing i miss from firefox is the rss feed bookmark things | 08:41 |
| Madpilot | mdke: in the css file for both pages, add "padding:0" to the body tag as well as margin:0 - that should solve the Opera issue | 08:43 |
| mdke | ok | 08:43 |
| Madpilot | it's not exactly a bug, but opera & FF make different basic assumptions about padding/margins by default | 08:44 |
| mdke | i can't see anything wrong with the html | 08:44 |
| mdke | he's used these php files | 08:44 |
| mdke | Madpilot, ok i did padding:0 for doc.u.c, see if it helps? | 08:45 |
| Madpilot | yes, that's got it | 08:45 |
| mdke | good | 08:46 |
| mdke | thanks v much | 08:46 |
| Madpilot | I always start w/ padding:0;margin:0 in body, so I forget that different browsers have different defaults... | 08:46 |
| mdke | i can't really be bothered with the html validation errors now... | 08:46 |
| Madpilot | most of them are pretty minor, and don't seem to be affecting display at all | 08:47 |
| mdke | if you want to play around, I can give you a login, otherwise, I'm happy to have solved the css thing | 08:47 |
| Madpilot | the "<link rel="icon" type="image/png...." tag shouldn't end in a / though - this is HTML, not XHTML | 08:47 |
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| mdke | </link>? | 08:48 |
| Madpilot | maybe later, I don't really have time right now - I should be doing other stuff aside from IRC right at this minute :P | 08:48 |
| mdke | hehe, ok thanks again | 08:48 |
| Madpilot | no, just end it with a plain > | 08:48 |
| Madpilot | like the stylesheet link right above it | 08:48 |
| Madpilot | I'm pretty sure that that stray / is the cause of the 1st & 2nd HTML validation errors | 08:49 |
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| LaserJock | hi bshumate | 10:32 |
| mdke | LaserJock, saw your question about the extra files in desktopguide, they are normal | 11:15 |
| mdke | they're used for generation of the links database | 11:15 |
| LaserJock | oh, so when I build html? | 11:16 |
| mdke | yes, i believe so | 11:17 |
| LaserJock | geeze mdke your going to get them mad at me ;-) | 11:17 |
| mdke | nah | 11:17 |
| mdke | anything with a "?" in svn means that you've added it but its not under version control | 11:17 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I got that far I just wondered where they came from | 11:18 |
| LaserJock | but if a file is deleted from the svn repo it is deleted from my local copy unless I have modified it, correct? | 11:18 |
| mdke | if you do "svn up" | 11:19 |
| mdke | dunno what happens if you've modified it | 11:19 |
| LaserJock | well, it doesn't get rid of my local changes to the packaging guide | 11:19 |
| mdke | ah good | 11:20 |
| mdke | want me to commit anything on that? | 11:20 |
| LaserJock | umm, not quite yet | 11:20 |
| LaserJock | I wanted to get close to what is already there, I just integrated an example that theCore | 11:21 |
| LaserJock | and if I add some stuff, I think I will be ready to commit when I get commit access :-) | 11:21 |
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| LaserJock | mdke: I think some people have used the current doc.ubuntu.com packaging guide so I don't want to get rid of that until I have something that at least approaches replacing it. Does that make sense? | 11:24 |
| mdke | LaserJock, sure, sorry for late reply | 11:40 |
| LaserJock | ok, np | 11:41 |
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