[12:13] <TOZTWO> HEHE!
[12:13] <TOZTWO> I've never tried ubuntu.
[12:15] <mhz> ?
[12:17] <TOZTWO> I was asking anout the SMP Kernel for edubuntu.
[12:19] <Burgundavia> TOZTWO, edubuntu, kubuntu and ubuntu shrae the same kernel
[12:20] <Burgundavia> in fact, they share everything. You can install any on any of the others
[12:22] <TOZTWO> Does the kernel support multiple processors?
[12:22] <TOZTWO> I mean the server version.
[12:23] <Burgundavia> yep
[12:23] <TOZTWO> COO! I thought that I was gonna have to switch them out.
[07:05] <jair_11> Hello guys I would like to know if is possible to get the list of games that edubuntu come with?? Proably I can download them to any other Linux distribution?
[07:09] <\sh> jair_11: all games which are shipped or downloadable for ubuntu/kubuntu are available for edubuntu as well.
[07:09] <Yagisan> jair_11: off the top of my head I think it has the kdeedu stuff
[07:10] <\sh> oh you mean educational games? well..actually the answer is still correct :)
[07:20] <jair_11> ok I will check the kde web site and the gnome as welll.
[07:20] <jair_11> thanks
[10:44] <juliux> morning ogra_ibook 
[05:50] <jsgotangco> morning
[05:50] <jsgotangco> heh
[05:51] <jsgotangco> 1am gnome doc love
[05:51] <jsgotangco> day
[05:51] <Yagisan> jsgotangco: I'm about to drop off soon. almost 4am
[05:51] <Yagisan> jsgotangco: what looks better http://eyagi.bpa.nu/~jamie/index.en.html
[05:52] <Yagisan> jsgotangco: or http://eyagi.bpa.nu:8081/eyagi
[05:54] <jsgotangco> firefox didn't like your navi bars
[05:55] <Yagisan> jsgotangco: which one ? IE hates the css on the first one
[05:55] <jsgotangco> the plone one looks neat
[05:55] <jsgotangco> the other one looks terrible
[05:56] <Yagisan> jsgotangco: you can be so cruel :'( First one was my layout draft
[05:56] <Yagisan> jsgotangco: I love my colours though
[05:57] <Yagisan> jsgotangco: all set up out of the box on ubuntu :)
[05:57] <jsgotangco> Yagisan, yeah, i can see the effort, the plone one is being lazy eh
[06:00] <lucasvo> BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!
[06:00] <ogra> thats normal
[06:00] <lucasvo> I get on edubuntu flight2 liecd
[06:00] <lucasvo> and I have to wait afterwards?
[06:01] <ogra> yup, it boot very slow
[06:01] <lucasvo> :(
[06:01] <Yagisan> jsgotangco: the plone one is called "easy to translate"
[06:03] <lucasvo> Yagisan: the plone one is better, indeed, but I ouldn't use it
[06:04] <lucasvo> use less colours in the other ones
[06:04] <Yagisan> lucasvo: why ? (other then the fact I only have put the welcome page up)
[06:04] <lucasvo> Yagisan: because everybody uses Plone
[06:05] <lucasvo> I mean the design
[06:05] <lucasvo> ogra: should I still wait?
[06:05] <ogra> yup
[06:05] <Yagisan> lucasvo: oh - I have no intention of keeping the stock design. I rather like the colourful version actually
[06:06] <ogra> it can take up to 10 min with this CD ... 
[06:06] <Yagisan> lucasvo: I'm just impressed I got it up an running now
[06:06] <lucasvo> ok
[06:06] <lucasvo> Yagisan: good
[06:06] <ogra> works flawless on the G4 here ... but takes ages on the G3 of my Gf
[06:07] <lucasvo> ogra: and the ltsp will be slow as well? 
[06:08] <ogra> did you plan to run ltsp from a liveCD ?
[06:08] <ogra> you only need it to bootstrap the chroot ... 
[06:09] <lucasvo> no
[06:13] <lucasvo> ok, now it is doing something
[06:14] <lucasvo> 14min
[06:17] <lucasvo> Failed to start the X server...
[06:18] <ogra> :(
[06:18] <ogra> but console is enough for the stuff you want 
[06:19] <lucasvo> ifconfig
[06:19] <lucasvo> (no aoutput)
[06:19] <lucasvo> ifconfig eth0 up
[06:19] <ogra> nope
[06:19] <lucasvo> eth0: ERROR
[06:19] <lucasvo> Nosuch device
[06:20] <ogra> you are most likely missing the module
[06:20] <ogra> else it would have been brought up
[06:20] <lucasvo> which one?
[06:20] <ogra> no idea
[06:20] <ogra> you should probably take a ubuntu liveCD
[06:21] <lucasvo> hm, I don't have any livecd
[07:52] <ttaulman> anybody running edubuntu thick clients?
[08:06] <Tarantulafudge> how do ltsp actually work
[08:06] <Tarantulafudge> does it provide monitoring solutions ?
[08:07] <ogra> Tarantulafudge, the breezy ThinClientHowto wikipage has a description at the top
[08:08] <Tarantulafudge> so it would be realistic to use flash drives
[08:09] <ogra> for what ? 
[08:09] <ogra> you dont need *any* drives in the clients 
[08:10] <Tarantulafudge> oh its a livecd?
[08:10] <Tarantulafudge> or is it a network boot type thing
[08:11] <TOZII> Network boot.
[08:11] <Tarantulafudge> cool
[08:11] <TOZII> Your network cards need to be network bootable.....
[08:11] <Tarantulafudge> is it possible to monitor the xsessions? like with syncroneyes?
[08:12] <ogra> ttaulman, you can install a full desktop system in the thin client chroot and only use the netboot functionallity from ltsp
[08:12] <ogra> it needs a bit of tweakage though
[08:13] <ogra> Tarantulafudge, we have student-control-panel in universe ... its unfinished, but you can see/end the running ltsp sessions with it
[08:13] <TOZII> Ogra: if your network cards do not support network boot, you can use a floppy to boot from the network, right?
[08:13] <ogra> yup
[08:13] <Tarantulafudge> ogra: and snapshots from the desktop?
[08:14] <ogra> TOZII, http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuDocumentation/BootingClientsWithoutPxe
[08:14] <ttaulman> ogra, not sure, have full edubuntu workstation on new lab computers. using ldap to authenticate and nfs shares for /home directories
[08:14] <ogra> Tarantulafudge, not yet .... s-c-p is planned to have a plugin system, so people will easily be able to extend it by such functions
[08:15] <ogra> ttaulman, sure thats possible 
[08:15] <Tarantulafudge> ogra: ok, its important to know whats happening
[08:15] <ttaulman> ogra, it is working, but i have lost sound on the client side
[08:16] <Tarantulafudge> is there a library type application available?
[08:17] <ogra> there is alexandria, but i never worked with it or know about the package status
[08:17] <ogra> ttaulman, thats a breezy install ? 
[08:17] <ttaulman> ogra, yes
[08:20] <Tarantulafudge> what about a barcode solution?
[08:26] <ogra> Tarantulafudge, there are certainly apps out there for such tasks on linux, they will most likely also work on edubuntu, but please understand that this is not in our focus yet ...
[08:28] <ogra> currently the main focus for edubunntu lies in classrooms, if we match that target satisfying, then we'll go for bigger tasks like school management, library management etc...
[08:38] <TOZII> Tarantulafudge: check out http://www.schooltool.org/
[08:47] <blue-frog> ogra I have rewrote my script following your advice (script to automate samba-ldap server installation amongst other), I need to be working on samba-ldap management now that I have found out how to assign same desktop properties to users using /etc/skel1/etc/skel2 and son on. Now my problem is am not a programmer, I knew nothing about bash when I started a few weeks ago meaning I know what I should in most of the cases but I don't know how to tranlaste
[08:47] <blue-frog>  that in code. As for using debconf for touching smb.conf and other files, I'd like to but still same programming problem. Is there a way I could work with a real programmer who could translate my script in packages/debconf... but who don't have the time to think about everything. I could "prepare" the way..
[08:49] <ogra> blue-frog, try to find someone with packaging knowledge in #ubuntu-motu 
[08:49] <blue-frog> what is motu?
[08:49] <ogra> masters of the universe ;)
[08:49] <ogra> the universe package maintainers
[08:49] <TOZII> =)
[08:50] <ogra> you will need dpkg-divert for installing different smb.conf or similar changes to make that clean ...
[08:50] <ogra> else it will always be a mess ...
[08:50] <ogra> its very complicated to do it right 
[08:50] <blue-frog> there again you talk chinese to me...
[09:05] <P3L|C4N0> hi people
[09:08] <TOZII> Hi.
[11:26] <lucasvo> ogra: I am stuck in the edubuntu installation
[11:27] <lucasvo> same error, edxt3 filesystem creation failed
[11:31] <lucasvo> it is some crap with G3 or I don't know
[11:41] <lucasvo> mhz: np
[11:46] <lucasvo> svg?
[11:46] <mhz_SVG> lucasvo: yes, I am working on some SVG stuff :)
[11:46] <mhz_SVG> but for DSS live project 
[11:47] <lucasvo> dss?
[11:47] <lucasvo> svg is cool
[11:47] <lucasvo> jomla?
[11:48] <lucasvo> http://forum.joomla.org/index.php?topic=21736.0;wap2
[11:48] <mhz_SVG> lucasvo: http://www.dsslive.org/mediawiki/index.php/Home
[11:49] <mhz_SVG> Debian|Ubuntu based project, a framework to make your own metadistros in very few steps
[11:49] <lucasvo> cool