[12:05] <Knowerrors> On Desktop setup, theres a section under general behavior show icons "allow programs in desktop window"  , what programs can be used? Anything useful?
[12:05] <Panzerboy> back
[12:06] <Panzerboy> hmm ... same problem
[12:06] <Panzerboy> connecting to servers takes so long
[12:08] <tuskernini> puaff: yes i want to play around with kdm
[12:09] <tuskernini> puaff: i get the kdm logon, and just tried to choose kde as the session... looks like it is worling... :-)
[12:09] <tuskernini> working!
[12:10] <Puaff> tuskernini: then? there is no problem :-)
[12:11] <Puaff> Panzerboy: did you try nslookup?
[12:12] <Panzerboy> Puaff: apparently the problem is not with the dns
[12:12] <Blippe> i don't like the way konqueror searches on a page, is it possible to get a firefox-like search?
[12:12] <Panzerboy> for example for a ping www.something.com, it resolves something.com very very quickly
[12:12] <Panzerboy> but when i try to go to a web site, konqueror stays like 1 minute until it starts downloading something from there
[12:13] <Panzerboy> once it starts, the speed is all right
[12:13] <Puaff> this only happens with konqueror?
[12:13] <tuskernini> puaff: yep no problem, just have to start playing in kdm! thanx for the help, just have a bunch of programs i have to get rid of now... without loosing precious emails and documents
[12:13] <Panzerboy> Puaff: no, it happens also when i do an apt-get something
[12:13] <Panzerboy> and also with wget
[12:14] <Panzerboy> it says: connecting ... then when it finally starts downloading something, it's blazing fast
[12:14] <glick> whats with the crappily small fonts in kubuntu?
[12:14] <Panzerboy> now for example i'm downloading at 75 KBs
[12:14] <Panzerboy> which is quite all right for the network i'm in right now
[12:14] <Puaff> maybe a route problem?
[12:14] <Panzerboy> hmm
[12:14] <Panzerboy> maybe
[12:14] <Panzerboy> let me check
[12:16] <glick> anyone know why the fonts are all small and crappy?
[12:16] <glick> is that the default or is it somehow conflicting with gnome fonts or something?
[12:17] <Truly-Away> hey guys sorry but I have a dumb question. (I know you are probaly sick of newbs like me). Anyways here we go...
[12:17] <Truly> I am burning kubuntu on a cd using nero
[12:17] <Panzerboy> the routes seem all right
[12:17] <glick> does anyone know about the fonts probleml?
[12:17] <Blippe> Truly we are all newbs, otherwise we would be suing slackware :D
[12:18] <Truly> lol
[12:18] <Truly> and i selected burn on data cd
[12:18] <Panzerboy> wtf can be wrong??
[12:18] <Blippe> *using, not suing!
[12:18] <Truly> that will burn an iso right?
[12:18] <Panzerboy> wow
[12:18] <Panzerboy> ifconfig gives me a sit0???
[12:18] <Panzerboy> what is that?
[12:18] <Truly> you think blippe?
[12:19] <Blippe> that will burn the iso to a cd right!
[12:21] <glick> all gtk applications have small fonts?
[12:21] <Puaff> Panzerboy: look at this, http://www.rau.edu.uy/ipv6/rh7-1.htm it is in spanish if you need translation, please tell me
[12:22] <Blippe> sit stands for "simple internet transition" and is bassically a device
[12:22] <Blippe>  capable of encapsulating ipv6 in ipv4 datagrams.
[12:22] <Panzerboy> hmmm
[12:22] <Panzerboy> maybe that is the cause of all this pain
[12:22] <Panzerboy> how can i get rid of it?
[12:23] <Panzerboy> even though i've set KDE_NO_IPV6 to true
[12:23] <Panzerboy> i still get that
[12:23] <Blippe> glick, system settings - appearence - gtk styles and fonts
[12:23] <Puaff> Blippe: it is configured in /etc/network/interfaces?
[12:24] <Panzerboy> Puaff: not as far as i can see
[12:26] <Panzerboy> maybe it has something to do with the fact that i'm on a wireless network ?
[12:26] <Panzerboy> sadly, it's the only network i can access at the moment
[12:27] <Puaff> I also am on a wifi
[12:27] <Blippe> iwconfig?
[12:28] <Truly> lol i just burned it and now its coming up as an audio cd
[12:28] <Truly> wierd
[12:28] <Puaff> Panzerboy: then, it could be a problem of the hotel network
[12:28] <Panzerboy> Blippe: i can see some things, i can paste it to you if you want
[12:28] <Panzerboy> Puaff: well, in windows worked perfectly :(
[12:28] <Blippe> Truly, you've never burnt a data-cd before?
[12:28] <Truly> not with nero
[12:29] <Blippe> Panzerboy: sudo lshw -C network
[12:29] <Panzerboy> Blippe: again, lots of things :)
[12:30] <Puaff> Blippe: nice command, I didn't know it ;)
[12:30] <Blippe> Panzerboy pastebin?
[12:30] <Panzerboy> yeah, let's wait until it loads :(
[12:30] <Blippe> Truly, ok, long time since i used nero, but there should be a open iso or open image, or use .cue or something!
[12:31] <Truly> what do you use blippe?
[12:31] <Truly> cuz i could just mount it but i need to bring it to this shit computer i have to install it on that
[12:32] <Blippe> Truly, i don't have a win-comp at all right now...
[12:32] <Blippe> actually i don't have a comp with a cd-reader at all
[12:33] <Truly> for the burn it wants me to pick a drive. either d: (my cd drive) but it is saying it has to be a dvd/rw disk. or an un-labelled drive called image recorder (cd-r/rw)
[12:33] <Truly> i picked the un-labelled one last time and i got this audio cd. so i guess i need to put in a dvd disk
[12:33] <Panzerboy> Blippe: http://rafb.net/paste/results/FtewiF20.html - this is the iwconfig
[12:33] <Truly> i normally dont have any reason to burn data disks so i dont exactly know :P
[12:33] <Blippe> I hate when people just leave after you've told them how to maybe solve the problem and they never tell if it started working after that... :D
[12:34] <juif> hello channel, i am trying to get Ardour to run on kubuntu. so far, it tells me i need to open JACK, well, apparently JACK was installed when Ardour was, but its not to be found anywhere.
[12:34] <Truly> lol blippe
[12:34] <Truly> anyways you think thats right? that i should burn it on a dvd
[12:35] <Blippe> Panzerboy, ifconfig and lshw?
[12:35] <Panzerboy> Blippe: http://rafb.net/paste/results/MVjs5t98.html - and this is the other thingy
[12:35] <Blippe> ok
[12:35] <Blippe> Truly, have you dl the dvd version or the kubuntu-version?
[12:35] <Truly> good question lol
[12:36] <Truly> kubuntu-5.10-install-i386 - that doesnt help does it?
[12:36] <Truly> let me check
[12:36] <Truly> i downloaded PC (Intel x86) install CD
[12:36] <Blippe> Truly, that is the cd, you should burn it on a cd!
[12:36] <Panzerboy> Blippe: and finally - http://rafb.net/paste/results/Wwvqoh76.html - ifconfig eth1
[12:36] <Truly> yeh. grrr. stupid nero. actually probably more like stupid me lol
[12:38] <glick> is it me or are kde fonts horrible
[12:39] <Puaff> glick: kde fonts are the same as gnome ubuntu fonts, at least in my system
[12:39] <Tm_T> same fonts
[12:39] <glick> Puaff, they seem tiny and hard to read
[12:39] <Tm_T> different settings maybe?
[12:40] <Tm_T> glick: configuration is the word
[12:40] <Puaff> glick: no, it looks nice
[12:40] <Panzerboy> well, anyways, i gotta go to sleep
[12:40] <Panzerboy> will investigate more on this tomorrow
[12:40] <glick> i like the solid fonts like that come with default ubuntu
[12:40] <Panzerboy> thanks a lot to everybody!
[12:40] <Puaff> Panzerboy: good luck tomorrow
[12:40] <Panzerboy> thanks
[12:40] <Panzerboy> c u
[12:40] <Panzerboy> bye
[12:41] <Blippe> I wonder if he checked his firewall
[12:41] <Puaff> I always think about that in XP but not in linux
[12:41] <Blippe> nobody asked him?
[12:42] <glick> maybe its just like that cause somehow its scewing up with the gnome install that i used previously
[12:42] <glick> ill play with it
[12:42] <Puaff> I think not
[12:42] <glick> i need to do a full reinstall anyway
[12:42] <Blippe> glick, sometimes a restart (a complete restart) does fix it... my fonts look screwy sometimes when i restarts X
[12:43] <glick> yeah maybe
[12:43] <Truly> blippe from the looks of it you are the resident kubuntu expert :)
[12:43] <Truly> probably get pm'd by like 50 people a day asking for help haha
[12:43] <Blippe> especially if i logged into gnome and then didn't turn off the computer before going back to kde...
[12:44] <glick> hmm
[12:44] <Blippe> not really, i did have most of these problems like three weeks ago...
[12:44] <Blippe> I never quit screwing around with the system, and have read a lot of the discussions going on in here and at #ubuntu
[12:45] <Truly> you had these problems 3 weeks ago and you are already confident enough to completely switch off of windows?
[12:45] <Truly> wow
[12:46] <glick> i havent used windows since like 2000
[12:47] <Blippe> oh, i did actually drop my windows hd on the floor (didn't work after) and the dvd-writer withit, so i'm pretty much stuck until i get another hd and cd-reader
[12:47] <Blippe> the only thing i really miss is a working foobar2000 and tag.exe :D
[12:47] <glick> lets see what happens when i plug in my firewire drive
[12:51] <dec0ding> can Kubuntu be installed from ISO mounted on other computer in one LAN ?
[12:52] <dec0ding> like NFS installation or HTTP one?
[12:54] <Blippe> dec0ding, I saw a guide for that in the forums...
[12:54] <dec0ding> where are the forums?
[12:54] <Blippe> wait a sec
[12:55] <glick> wow amarok kicks ASSS
[12:55] <glick> heh
[12:55] <Blippe> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[12:58] <dec0ding> thanks Blippe
[12:58] <Blippe> ok, a guide from the wiki then: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OnNFSDrive?highlight=%28nfs%29%7C%28install%29
[12:59] <Puaff> I'm going to bed, good night all
[01:01] <Blippe> glick, so did the firewire-drive work?
[01:01] <Blippe> of course it did :D
[01:03] <glick> Blippe, heh yeah
[01:03] <glick> amarok is amazingggg
[01:04] <juif> i dont like amarok :)
[01:04] <Blippe> me neither, feels bloathed...
[01:05] <Tm_T> Blippe: aye, it's not meant to be lightweight
[01:05] <Tm_T> Blippe: to me it's just the player
[01:05] <glick> its meant to be a full featured app
[01:05] <Tm_T> aye
[01:05] <Blippe> (but friends like it, and that get songs from what you are listening to are really nice at parties, especially now when there is a replaygain-thingie)
[01:06] <Tm_T> Blippe: you should use svn version, have something fun to test every week :p
[01:06] <rmn30> has anybody had success with xine and flac?
[01:06] <Tm_T> hum, I don't use either
[01:06] <juif> in my book, a player that wont let you sort your collection by path and filename isnt worth my time :)
[01:07] <rmn30> i prefer the xine engine for amarok (it works mostly)
[01:07] <rmn30> but it seems to choke on flac
[01:07] <Tm_T> juif: true, but you can
[01:07] <Blippe> Oh, ok, i will explain myself better then. It is bloated in all the areas I don't really need, but sure they are nice, and miss the stuff i feel are downright sinfull to don't have!
[01:07] <juif> so, no one knows about Ardour and JACK ?
[01:07] <juif> tm_t , i can ? oh... i never got around to find out how, ill give it another look.
[01:07] <Blippe> "to don't have" . wtf kind of language is that?
[01:07] <juif> ive been using XMMS
[01:08] <Tm_T> juif: add more columns to your playlist ;)
[01:08] <juif> tm_t : hm.. i thought i looked for that...  i'll re-install it sometimes, i need something that will handle many gigs
[01:09] <Tm_T> hehe
[01:10] <juif> i never said i liked it
[01:10] <juif> it gets the job done tho
[01:11] <juif> i havent found anything else that is halfway decent in the pre-compiled list, and i dont know how to compile
[01:11] <Blippe> I crave a player which can sort my files this way: $if(%compilation%,,$if($stricmp($left(%artist%,4),The ),$substr(%artist%,5,$len(%artist%)),%ARTIST%) - %date% - )%Album% %disc% - $num(%TRACKNUMBER%,6)
[01:11] <Tm_T> juif: compiling is easy
[01:11] <johndarkhorse> juif: what are you looking for?
[01:12] <juif> audio apps mostly
[01:12] <Tm_T> Blippe: well, how about using alsaplayer? or script what pies stuff to gst -> alsa
[01:12] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell juif about compile
[01:13] <juif> but for now i have to go eat. i will return later, feel free to tell me the procedure in private messages :)
[01:13] <johndarkhorse> juif: if you don't get sorted, as nalioth on monday or tuesday
[01:13] <juif> nalioth, okay
[01:13] <Blippe> Well, i still had to create my own database and playlist...
[01:13] <juif> oh , ok  i will read the website
[01:13] <Blippe> not just them, but the progs which handle them
[01:14] <Tm_T> Blippe: script, that's all :p
[01:14] <Tm_T> evil script
[01:14] <Paradosso> hi everybody
[01:15] <Blippe> I probably would need to create a gui for it, and well, i'm not quite up for it!
[01:15] <Paradosso> I want to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu. One I install kubuntu-desktop and kde, am I able to say I am on kubuntu?
[01:15] <Blippe> Paradosso, yes
[01:16] <Paradosso> is it really that easy? :)
[01:16] <Blippe> when you install, you will get the chance to choose between gdm and kdm choose kdm, wait until the install is finished, and reboot!
[01:16] <Paradosso> what about uninstalling gnome then?
[01:17] <Blippe> after reboot, you will have a new login manager, and in the loginmanager you will be able to choose between gnome and kde EVERY TIME you logout!
[01:17] <nlindblad> hello
[01:17] <Blippe> oh, uninstalling gnome, that is another matter!
[01:17] <Hobbsee> Blippe: login, surely, not logout?
[01:18] <Blippe> Paradosso, there is a few people who have talkd about uninstalling gnome, but noone really knows of a surefire way to get rid of it all...
[01:18] <Blippe> Hobbsee, hrrm, yeah... login...
[01:19] <Hobbsee> !+removegnome
[01:19] <ubotu> well, removegnome is to fully remove gnome, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96046
[01:19] <Hobbsee> Blippe: ^
[01:19] <Blippe> dammit, where have you been all those other times ???
[01:19] <Hobbsee> Blippe: me?  asleep
[01:19] <Blippe> you better!
[01:20] <Hobbsee> also, you can get to both gnome and kde from kdm and gdm - the login screen makes no difference
[01:21] <Paradosso> many thanks Blippe and Hobbsee
[01:21] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: alo
[01:21] <Hobbsee> no problems Paradosso
[01:21] <Hobbsee> hi Tm_T
[01:21] <Tm_T> :)
[01:21] <Tm_T> what's up
[01:21] <Blippe> Hobbsee, yes, but most people get annoyed when they can't restart or turn off the computer without turning of kde and then using kdm for that!
[01:21] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: have you seen my kedubuntu pics?
[01:22] <Hobbsee> thinking of having a shower, and testing out a cd...oh, and eating breakfast, before going to work
[01:22] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: don't think, act :p
[01:22] <Hobbsee> yeah, walking someone though an installation though
[01:37] <Paradosso> uninstalling gnome
[01:45] <`Nomad> hi.. I'm doing some web development on my machine, using apache2 as the webserver..  is there caching on teh server-side that I'm not familiar with?  I change logos, clear caches in teh browsers, restart apache and still get the old logo?
[01:45] <`Nomad> or is this more of a Apache channel question?
[01:46] <glick> is there anyway i can make the panel clock display in 12 hour format?
[01:47] <tictric> right click on it
[01:48] <glick> tictric, yeah i dont see a toggle for that anywhere
[01:48] <tictric> I could've sworn :)
[01:48] <tictric> derfnam
[01:51] <Knowerrors> Hey all, I just installed FF as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28firefox%29, when I try to start it, it says there is already a Firefox running, which there isn't... any help?
[01:54] <Hobbsee> Knowerrors: try killall firefox, then try again
[01:54] <Blippe> killall firefox?
[01:55] <Knowerrors> tried that, there is no firefox running
[01:55] <Knowerrors> I looked at ps -aux, nada firefox or mozilla related
[01:55] <Knowerrors> killall firefox-bin firefox-bin: no process killed
[01:56] <Blippe> me previous statement was not a question addressed to Hobbsee, more like a gently push for Knowerrors to get in the right direction
[01:56] <tictric> a *ps ax|grep firefox* shows no firefox?
[01:56] <Hobbsee> oh, fair enough
[01:57] <Knowerrors> 11041 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep firefox
[01:57] <tictric> 11419 ?        Sl     0:23 /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin -a firefox
[01:58] <tictric> log out, log back in (shrug)
[01:58] <Knowerrors> did that for kde
[01:58] <Knowerrors> could try rebooting
[01:59] <tictric> Knowerrors: that's not windows :-)
[02:00] <Knowerrors> are there any lock files to look for? leftover from my old FF setup maybe
[02:11] <Knowerrors> fixed it!  something was wrong with the profile files, recopied them and all is good
[02:13] <Knowerrors> To anybody using FF 1.5, which of the 3 update methods in the wiki did you choose and why?
[02:15] <juif> i cant record sound, using the latest kubuntu with ALSA and a sound blaster audigy
[02:15] <juif> plays fine
[02:15] <juif> wont record at all
[02:15] <juif> cant start JACK
[02:15] <Hobbsee> Knowerrors: out of what what and what?
[02:15] <Prozac> Hmmm is amaroK not able to use the ID3v2 tags for mp3 files? or is there just a limit on the length that can be displayed in the playlist window?
[02:15] <Hobbsee> oh, that
[02:16] <Knowerrors> right
[02:16] <Knowerrors> Im on a single user system, so I think the first method would be fine
[02:16] <Knowerrors> I assume
[02:17] <Hobbsee> i usually use the last method
[02:17] <Hobbsee> but ff1.5 is in dapper by default, so i'm not sure what's happening there
[02:18] <Hobbsee> i know that i can finally install and update extensions though!
[02:18] <jariep1__> hi all
[02:18] <jariep1__> what text editor can I run as root in kubuntu?
[02:19] <Blippe> any!
[02:19] <Knowerrors> Hobbsee: my fav Zoomy extension won't work in 1.5 :(
[02:19] <Blippe> kdesu "name of program"
[02:20] <Blippe> jariep1__, alt-f2 - "kdesu kate" for example
[02:20] <jariep1__> ok
[02:21] <Blippe> if you have gnome you could use gksudo instead of kdesu
[02:21] <jariep1__> Blippe, Thank you
[02:21] <Blippe> np
[02:21] <tictric> n8
[02:22] <Hobbsee> Knowerrors: to zoom in and out?  works here, i think
[02:25] <Knowerrors> nope, I had to use https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=472&application=firefox instead
[02:30] <Knowerrors> Can anyone tell me what kwebdesktop, and the run programs in desktop window are for?
[02:34] <Paradosso> I'm on kubuntu, painless transition
[02:34] <Paradosso> need some help finding basic functions
[02:35] <Paradosso> i.e. 1) where do set keybindings in KDE and 2) where do I set apps which I'd like to have run on every KDE boot
[02:35] <os2mac> like what Paradosso?
[02:35] <Paradosso> any hints os2mac ?
[02:37] <Paradosso> I see there is no taskbar too, how do i set one?
[02:37] <os2mac> as far as the programs on startup thing goes... just leave them open and and logoff....
[02:37] <os2mac> that will start them back up on startup.
[02:38] <Paradosso> the other couple of things?
[02:40] <os2mac> by keybindings you mean?
[02:41] <Paradosso> I mean e.g. I press win+f and firefox starts
[02:44] <os2mac> keybindings are set in system settings>Regional & Accessibility
[02:53] <johnflux> Hey all
[02:54] <Knowerrors> how do you cleanly uninstall superkaramaba themes?
[03:00] <Paradosso> hi, how do I go to autostart w/ konqueror?
[03:05] <Fusionfox> how can i active real transparency on kde?
[03:05] <ccc_> Paradosso: ~/.kde/Autostart/
[03:05] <Fusionfox> Kubuntu*
[03:05] <_johnflux> Fusionfox: you need to setup composite and run a composite manager
[03:06] <_johnflux> Fusionfox: that should be enough info for you to google the rest if you are interested in doing so
[03:06] <Fusionfox> _johnflux: yeah thanks a lot =)
[03:13] <jariep1__> Where in kubuntu do I configure the PATH variable?
[03:16] <_jeff> hey guys
[03:16] <_jeff> for some reason katapult isnt coming up with alt+space anymore
[03:17] <_jeff> does anyone know why that might be?
[03:18] <_jeff> guys?
[03:19] <jariep1__> hi _jeff
[03:21] <_jeff> jariep1: hey
[03:21] <_jeff> jariep1: do you use katapult?
[03:25] <Blippe> what is the right way to do this: [rename " ??" " 0??" "alfa ?? (extra)"] ???????
[03:26] <jariep1__> _jeff, sorry I was on another machine
[03:26] <jariep1__> no, am not familiar with katapult
[03:27] <jariep1__> what kind of application is it?
[03:28] <jariep1__> where should I define my PATH variable system wide?
[03:30] <Fusionfox> how can i give an especific user privileg over a HDD?
[03:42] <jager> moo
[03:50] <Fusionfox> hello??
[03:54] <kkathman> howdy Knowerrors :)
[03:58] <sorush20_> guys where are the kubuntu headers?
[03:58] <sorush20_> kde headers?
[03:58] <sorush20_> where is libjpeg?
[03:59] <Knowerrors> HeyHey kkathman :)
[03:59] <Rocco83> packages.ubuntu.com
[03:59] <Knowerrors> wuz krackin
[03:59] <_clem> hi there.. I have a problem with my sound card... anyone could help ?
[04:02] <kkathman> Knowerrors: just installed a dual boot system - breezy and SUSE
[04:03] <Knowerrors> Nice, I would be running SUSE only myself, except I have custom things that were easier to compile with Debian, including self made kernel
[04:03] <sorush20_> anyone here using show imag
[04:03] <sorush20_> showimg
[04:03] <sorush20_> the lateest version?
[04:05] <owner> whats faster suse or ubuntu
[04:06] <Knowerrors> I think SUSE is personally
[04:07] <Knowerrors> the most recent one
[04:07] <owner> what about supersuse
[04:07] <owner> i keep hearing about that
[04:07] <Knowerrors> you can see for example by downloading the suse single disk install cd and check for yourself
[04:07] <Knowerrors> they have optimized for 686, have prelinking, some kernel patches, and other enhancements
[04:08] <owner> whats better yast or apt-get
[04:08] <Knowerrors> supersuse is the bleeding edge version of opensuse
[04:09] <Knowerrors> I like Synaptic best
[04:09] <kkathman> Knowerrors: this is just SUSE10
[04:10] <Knowerrors> Suse10 has some of the enhancements from the super project
[04:10] <Knowerrors> I think you can use Synaptic with rpms (what Suse uses), not sure
[04:11] <Knowerrors> and I guess apt-get also
[04:11] <clemens> ubotu:ejabberd
[04:11] <ubotu> clemens: Wish i knew
[04:11] <owner> i remember i used a really old version of suse a long time ago
[04:11] <owner> like 1998
[04:11] <owner> lol
[04:11] <clemens> Anyone ther who can help with ejabberd?
[04:13] <Knowerrors> Suse has excellent hardware support and config tools... best in linux Ive heard, Mandrake tools are close second
[04:14] <Knowerrors> Debian/Ubuntu really has nothing that compares yet, Ubuntu is going forward with the idea that everything should just work with no user input or adjusting...
[04:14] <owner> i was never impressed with mandrake
[04:14] <johnflux> I had mandrake on my laptop for ages
[04:15] <Knowerrors> yeah, same here, always buggy
[04:15] <johnflux> but I couldn't work out how to upgrade the thing
[04:15] <johnflux> so I switched to kubuntu
[04:15] <johnflux> that way I only have to do apt-get upgrade   from time to time
[04:15] <owner> mandrake didnt detect usb keyboard and auto setup network dhcp
[04:15] <owner> ubuntu does
[04:15] <owner> but it might be better now
[04:15] <johnflux> on mandrake and suse you need to burn dvd's all the time
[04:15] <owner> i tried it a few years ago
[04:16] <clemens> ubotu:jabber
[04:16] <ubotu> Wish i knew, clemens
[04:16] <Knowerrors> Suse is free now, both the OpenSuse and Official version with codecs and nonfree plugs
[04:16] <Knowerrors> !jabber
[04:16] <clemens> ubotu:!jabber
[04:16] <ubotu> clemens: Are you smoking crack?
[04:17] <Knowerrors> clemens: what are you looking for help with on jabber?
[04:17] <owner> is opensuse better than the official version
[04:17] <owner> or which is better
[04:17] <Knowerrors> official, since it comes with all the extras
[04:17] <clemens> Knowerrors:ejabberd
[04:18] <Knowerrors> clemens: I aint a bot, you gotta be more specific
[04:18] <clemens> Knowerrors: sorry, connection refused on 5222
[04:18] <owner> !obotu
[04:18] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, owner
[04:19] <Knowerrors> clemens: maybe its your iptables setup? or physical firewall? 5222 port closed?
[04:20] <clemens> Knowerrors: jabber ports are open AFIKS
[04:21] <clemens> Knowerrors: I will chack again. please wait.
[04:22] <Knowerrors> owner: http://www.opensuse.org/Download , the Eval version has the extras, open doesn't
[04:22] <Knowerrors> both are free and unlimited use for personal non biz
[04:22] <Knowerrors> The Evaluation edition of SUSE Linux contains some proprietary components such as Adobe Acrobat Reader, RealNetworks RealPlayer, Sun Java Runtime Environment and Macromedia Flash Player. The Evaluation edition does not time out in any way.
[04:23] <Knowerrors> If you prefer you can download and use the Open Source Software (OSS) edition of SUSE Linux 10.0 that includes only open source components:
[04:23] <clemens> Knowerrors: diabled firewall. same error. Status Node ejabberd@xxx is started. Status: started
[04:25] <Knowerrors> clemens: don't know then, try asking in #ubuntu, its more crowded but more experienced people
[04:26] <clemens> Knowerrors: thanks :-)
[04:29] <jager> how do i make double clicking on the title bar windowshade the window instead of maximizing it?
[04:30] <Knowerrors> right click on it, go to configure window behaviour
[04:30] <Martin__> Hey guys... I was wondering if anyone could tell me if we can teak the number of concurrent ftp download in konqueror?
[04:30] <Knowerrors> the Actions
[04:30] <jager> is that globak Knowerrors?
[04:31] <Knowerrors> yes
[04:31] <jager> thanks :)
[04:33] <Martin__> anybody?
[04:33] <psi_force> hi all using drake and it very nice however, after the latest updates courier-auth and a bunch of other services fail to start. restarting /etc/init.d/networking after bootup fixes the problem but looking for more perminent solution. ideas?
[04:55] <psi_force> hi all using drake and it very nice however, after the latest updates courier-auth and a bunch of other services fail to start. restarting /etc/init.d/networking after bootup fixes the problem but looking for more perminent solution. ideas?
[04:56] <Knowerrors> psi_force: do you mean Mandrake?  specific os question like that should go in their own irc
[04:58] <jager> how do i change the system default browser to firefox?
[04:59] <jager> ahh i found it never mind
[05:00] <psi_force> knowerrors: no I'm talking dapper drake
[05:03] <_chris> is dapper anywhere near stable enough to upgrade to from breezy?
[05:06] <Fusionfox> i used sudo chmod -rwxrwxrwx /media/hdb1, and now i cannot even access it, it says i dont have enough permissions.. what can i do!?
[05:07] <hawking> remount it
[05:09] <christopher> I'm running kubuntu 5.10.  I installed the java jre 1.5.0_06 to /usr/src/jre1.5.0_06...  I pointed Konqueror java path to /usr/bin/java  However, all the places where there should be a java applet have a grey box with "Loading Applet" in the middle. and it never loads :(  what am I doing wrong?
[05:32] <fangorious> wish i could remember what i was going to ask in here ...
[05:33] <Blippe_> Best                question                 ever                :D
[05:37] <fangorious> does konqueror have an autoscroll feature similar to firefox and IE? (middle-click not on a link to scroll-lock the pointer)
[05:42] <fangorious> lively bunch tonight
[05:44] <RickKnight> I think we all forgot what we're here for.
[05:48] <rance> high kids
[05:49] <rance> anybody know how to deactivate automount of a cd in kde?
[05:50] <fangorious> rance: pretty sure i've seen a setting for it before, see if i can find it again
[05:54] <fangorious> rance do you get a list of actions to take, possibly include "No Action" and a checkbox to remember that action?
[05:55] <rance> nope, konqeror(sp?) just tries to open the cd no matter what, and if its audio kcd will autostart, and if its a blank cd that I havent written to yet konq gives me an error
[05:58] <fangorious> rance: i'm sure the preference is there somewhere, but i can't seem to find it right now
[05:59] <rance> I found a bunch of CDs that werent labeled, so the autostart bit is nice while im looking at all the data, but its anoying when you stick in an audio cd and konq opens anyway
[06:01] <fangorious> is there a way to change the icons for search engines in the search bar plugin for konqueror?
[06:02] <Fusionfox> how can i merge 2 partitions on a HDD to make only one?
[06:02] <e_machinist> What does it mean when I start kaffeine and it says "Kaffeine Part not found..."
[06:02] <e_machinist> ?
[06:02] <fangorious> Fusionfox: you mean literally one, or so that they are accessed as one mount?
[06:02] <johnflux> [[hello] ] 
[06:03] <johnflux> #hello
[06:03] <fangorious> johnflux: hi
[06:03] <Fusionfox> fangorious: well yeah i got hda1 and hda2 i wanna make it only hda1
[06:03] <johnflux> fangorious: i'm fixing bugs in konversation for kubuntu release
[06:03] <fangorious> what kind of fs do they have?
[06:04] <Fusionfox> ?? me or john??
[06:05] <Fusionfox> fangorious: is that question for me or for johnflux?
[06:05] <johnflux> Fusionfox: you
[06:06] <fangorious> Fusionfox: sorry, i looked away for a second
[06:06] <Fusionfox> fangorious: eehh no prob, ehh they are ext3
[06:07] <fangorious> Fusionfox: parted could probably shrink hda2 to the min and enlarge hda1 to use that space, then you could move the data over to hda1, then get rid of hda2 of enlarge hda1 to take the rest of the space
[06:08] <Fusionfox> well to be more exactly hda2 is going to be formatted...
[06:08] <rance> whats the command line to eject a cd and if its mounted unmount it?
[06:08] <fangorious> rance: eject cdrom
[06:08] <Fusionfox> fangorious: or to better say deleted... so how could i do that?
[06:08] <rance> they really made it that obvious huh, ok
[06:08] <fangorious> rance: ;)
[06:09] <fangorious> Fusionfox: you should read the documentation on parted. I personally use PartitionMagic for all my partitioning needs.
[06:10] <rance> ya know getting used to a new distro is a time consuming process, but so far I really like kubuntu, it has all my favorite parts of all distros that I tried
[06:10] <Fusionfox> do partition magic works on kubuntu?
[06:11] <fangorious> Fusionfox: it's windows only, but the cd is bootable so i never even install it. (it's a commercial proprietary app, but it supports ext2/ext3 partitions just fine)
[06:11] <rance> I have an older version of partition magic and it makes ext2/3 partitions and swap spaces, so I dont see why it wouldnt work
[06:11] <duckdown> Is there any easy way to uninstall libglib2.0-0 ?  aptitude wont let me do it because 3 programs depend on it.  Should I uninstall those programs first?
[06:12] <fangorious> duckdown: that would be one way to do it without messing up future use of tools like aptitude or apt
[06:12] <rance> fangorious, I made a custom cd with the boot floppy from partition magic that had partition magic, and drive image on one cd
[06:13] <fangorious> rance: cool
[06:14] <Fusionfox> fangorious: but lets say hda2 is just only free space without fs how can i enlarge hda1 to take all over hda2?
[06:14] <glick> god damn my new mouse is sooo cool
[06:14] <fangorious> Fusionfox: parted should let you delete hda2 (Creating free space) and then enlarge hda1. I don't know the commands within parted to do that though, try 'man parted'
[06:15] <duckdown> brb
[06:15] <e_machinist> When I try to run a dvd using Kaffeine I get a "can't read dvd title information" error, does anyone know how to remedy this?
[06:15] <Fusionfox> fangorious: i just needed to hear about "parted", ill just google for it =P, thx man
[06:16] <fangorious> glick: does it actually make your (linux) webbrowser go back when clicking the thumb button?
[06:16] <fangorious> Fusionfox: np
[06:16] <glick> no it just changes colors
[06:16] <glick> red green, blue indigo purple violet
[06:16] <glick> its awesome
[06:17] <fangorious> the whole rainbow! is it gay? :p
[06:17] <Fusionfox> oh oh another thing.... i just see that my linux uses 100% of ram and doesnt touches swap, could it be posible that swap is not active??, and how could i make sure that it is available for use?
[06:18] <e_machinist> I cannot eject or unmount my DVD drive using KDE (right click menu)... Does anyone know how to fix this?
[06:18] <fangorious> Fusionfox: linux memory usage is something that confuses many newcomers. basically it keeps things cached in ram until ram fills up and something new needs to be loaded, at which time something will be swapped out of memory
[06:18] <PaloDeQueso> For some reason I can't seem to start a vncserver, it says that "Fatal server error, couldn't open default font: fixed"???
[06:20] <fangorious> Fusionfox: if you run the command 'free' in a terminal, it will tell you how much swap space is present, used, and free.
[06:21] <Fusionfox> ohhh
[06:21] <Fusionfox> let me try it
[06:22] <e_machinist> Fusionfox: try "free -m" to see the results in megabytes (for simplicity sake).
[06:22] <rance> e_machinist: if the last command to your dvd drive from kde was corrupted then kde can not continue to use the device until the error is cleared, im having the same trouble with a cdrom drive, I have to tell it to eject in a terminal window
[06:23] <Fusionfox> Swap:         1474          0       1474
[06:23] <Fusionfox> Mem:           504        498          5
[06:23] <Fusionfox> the format is total   used     free
[06:23] <Fusionfox> >_< see
[06:23] <Fusionfox> that g....ay =D how come it uses all my ram =P
[06:24] <Fusionfox> i dont got nothing open =P
[06:24] <Fusionfox> i got*
[06:24] <rance> take a look at ksysguard in the "System" menu
[06:25] <rance> e_machinist: that ksysguard was for you
[06:25] <e_machinist> rance: when I try to eject from the konsole it says the drive is busy...
[06:25] <rance> the process using the drive didnt completely exit and "let go" of the drive properly im guessing
[06:26] <fangorious> Fusionfox: I already told you, it's keeping things cached from when you did have stuff open. The principle of locality indicates that those same apps and the same data are the most likely things to be loaded soon, so keeping it in memory means better performance
[06:26] <rance> try to umount the device first
[06:26] <fangorious> Fusionfox: if you start a new app and load new data, old unused stuff will be removed from memory
[06:27] <rance> im outta here for awhile, be back later
[06:28] <duckdown> Can someone tell me if there is a way to use the new version of gaim (2.x betas) with kubuntu?  I un-commented the backports line in my /etc/apt/sources.list but they still only have the old 1.5 version
[06:28] <fangorious> Fusionfox: are you having trouble running multiple apps or working with multiple files?
[06:29] <e_machinist> Hmm, I can't umount the drive through the terminal... and ksysguard does not appear to have a process running that is using the DVD...
[06:30] <fangorious> e_machinist: try 'sudo fuser /dev/dvd'
[06:30] <fangorious> probably famd
[06:30] <Fusionfox> fangorious: well not really....
[06:30] <Fusionfox> fangorious: runs almost flawless
[06:32] <fangorious> Fusionfox: then i'd say it's working as intended (i currently only have 10 MB free, and I have a bunch of stuff open, and it's running just fine
[06:32] <e_machinist> fangorious: no output is generated when I run that command.
[06:32] <fangorious> e_machinist: then i don't think anything has an open file handle on/in it
[06:33] <e_machinist> fangorious: hmm... what could be the problem with the thing then?
[06:34] <fangorious> is there anything relevant in dmesg or /var/log/messages after a failed attempt to eject it?
[06:34] <johnflux> e_machinist: use  sudo fuser -m /mnt/cdrom
[06:34] <johnflux> or whatever your mount point is
[06:34] <johnflux>  /media/dvd probably
[06:35] <e_machinist> I tried ejecting using both kdesu and sudo as well...
[06:35] <e_machinist> johnflux: that command returned no output.
[06:35] <johnflux> e_machinist: type 'mount'.   where is the dvd mounted?
[06:36] <e_machinist> johnflux: it is mounted at /dev/hdd
[06:36] <johnflux> e_machinist: that's the device.  what is the other folder it gives
[06:37] <johnflux> e_machinist: /media/dvd   or /media/cdrom  or  /mnt/something   etc
[06:37] <johnflux> something like that
[06:37] <e_machinist> johnflux: /media/cdrom0
[06:38] <johnflux> okay do:  fuser -m /media/cdrom0
[06:38] <johnflux> as root
[06:38] <e_machinist> I just ejected it... by ejecting through Konq at /media...
[06:38] <e_machinist> well... that was a strange experience... now I just gotta get dvd playback to work using Kaffeine haha.
[06:40] <johnflux> e_machinist: it's a still a pita.  It doesn't help at all that it's illegal for us to ship it all setup nicely in the first place :(
[06:40] <e_machinist> johnflux: Tell me about it.
[06:40] <e_machinist> heh.
[06:41] <johnflux> e_machinist: in the future, try:      fuser -km /media/cdrom0      to kill all processes stopping the cd from ejecting
[06:41] <e_machinist> thanks johnflux, will do that in the future.
[06:41] <e_machinist> johnflux: is there any way to make kaffeine use xine instead of gstreamer (that is what it is using right now)?
[06:42] <fangorious> e_machinist: install kaffeine-xine
[06:42] <e_machinist> fangorious: I have.
[06:43] <fangorious> e_machinist: from the settings window, the first entry is Player Engine, with a sub menu to pick from all installed engines
[06:43] <e_machinist> fangorious: yah, I just found that haha. Not used to kaffeine, making me look stupid.
[06:43] <e_machinist> Thanks.
[06:43] <fangorious> :)
[06:46] <e_machinist> You would think the player engine choice would be in the settings stuff...
[06:47] <fangorious> e_machinist: well stop thinking, that never gets anyone anywhere
[06:47] <e_machinist> This I have found to be true. heh.
[06:48] <e_machinist> Now darned adept won't run... goodness sakes. haha.
[06:48] <e_machinist> hah... fourth times the charm.
[06:59] <Knowerrors>  On this page http://www.kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=22881&id=1 and others when I click on download in Konq, it trys to open the file in Kate without asking, how do I stop this?
[07:02] <fangorious> Knowerrors: in konqueror, Settings->Configure Konqueror->File Associations
[07:03] <Knowerrors> fangorious: there are no entries for application pref :(
[07:04] <fangorious> well, kde-look is giving you a text file of some type (no extension, or unrecognized extension) and handling it as configured in the 'text' group of File associations
[07:08] <fangorious> Knowerrors: in the File Associations preferences, expand 'text', select 'plain' and go to the embedded tab. enable the checkbox for 'ask wether to save' and you will be prompted to save the file rather than opening it (just tested it)
[07:11] <Knowerrors> fangorious: thx that worked, one other thing- how to make for all compressed files- default action for single click in konq to by extract here
[07:11] <Knowerrors> ?
[07:14] <fangorious> Knowerrors: the only way i know of would be to find those types in the File Associations preferences, and manually Add it, but I don't know what the syntax would like like. I'm not sure how to get entries from the Actions menu selected as the default response to left-click
[07:16] <Knowerrors> fangorious: ok, what about for the Actions menu?  Cause the extract here option isn't on there under Right click Actions, just the open/preview with Ark
[07:19] <fangorious> Knowerrors: I've noticed that I don't always get the Extract menu when right-clicking. I think it has to do with what profile that konqueror window is using (web vs file)
[07:20] <fangorious> unfortunately, i can't find a way to make only web urls open in tabs of a konqueror window using the web profile (so clicking a folder on my desktop opens it in a tab in my web browsing konq window ...)
[07:20] <Knowerrors> ahhh, ok, Im using web mode and have my /home open in a tab for browsing
[07:21] <fangorious> Knowerrors: that's one thing i hate about konq. the two modes aren't separated enough
[07:25] <fangorious> anyone know what the folder icon with a power cable/plug in front of it means?
[08:26] <GameOver> hey guys... everytime i try to share my files with folder share.... i click on admin mode in sharing... folder properties... enter my password... yet the area is still greyed out and wont let me do anything... can anyone help?
[08:26] <hayeah> i think that's a known bug
[08:26] <hayeah> are you using gnome or kde?
[08:27] <GameOver> kde
[08:27] <hayeah> if kde, try:  kdesu systemsettings
[08:27] <GameOver> i cant share anything
[08:27] <GameOver> is that a command?
[08:27] <GameOver> in terminal
[08:27] <hayeah> ya, in the command line
[08:28] <hayeah> that'll open up system settings with admin rights
[08:28] <GameOver> i did that, now its not doin anything... did i need to write sudo first?
[08:28] <hayeah> kdesu is like sudo
[08:29] <hayeah> it asked for password right?
[08:29] <GameOver> no
[08:29] <GameOver> its just letting me type after
[08:29] <GameOver> but it doesnt say my username@ whatever
[08:29] <GameOver> either
[08:29] <hayeah> ya
[08:29] <hayeah> same thing
[08:29] <hayeah> go ahead and see if you can add share
[08:30] <GameOver> u mean the way i was tring b4?
[08:30] <hayeah> i am helping you to deal with the "still-grey-out" problem
[08:30] <hayeah> yes
[08:30] <GameOver> when i go into configure sharing.... and admin
[08:30] <GameOver> same thing
[08:31] <hayeah> still greyed out?
[08:31] <GameOver> yes
[08:32] <hayeah> wait, are you doing this with konqueror or systemsettings?
[08:33] <GameOver> settings
[08:33] <GameOver> no
[08:33] <GameOver> konquerer
[08:33] <GameOver> just clicking on a folder.....then right clicking properties
[08:33] <hayeah> oh
[08:33] <GameOver> and then sharing. etc
[08:34] <hayeah> i am guessing you can try: kdesu konqueror
[08:34] <hayeah> but the better way to share though
[08:34] <hayeah> is through systemsettings
[08:34] <GameOver> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-joe" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[08:34] <GameOver> Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"
[08:35] <GameOver> Error: "/tmp/kde-joe" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[08:35] <GameOver> Link points to "/tmp/kde-root"
[08:35] <GameOver> Error: "/tmp/ksocket-joe" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[08:35] <GameOver> Link points to "/tmp/ksocket-root"
[08:35] <GameOver> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-joe" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[08:35] <GameOver> Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"
[08:35] <GameOver> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-joe" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[08:35] <hayeah> just try to do it with system settings
[08:35] <GameOver> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-joe" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[08:35] <GameOver> Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"
[08:35] <GameOver> Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"
[08:35] <GameOver> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-joe" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[08:35] <GameOver> Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"
[08:35] <GameOver> thats what i got
[08:35] <GameOver> just did
[08:35] <GameOver> same thing
[08:35] <GameOver> no difference
[08:35] <hayeah> not sure what that's all about
[08:36] <hayeah> let me see if i get what you are doing
[08:36] <GameOver> ok
[08:36] <hayeah> you open system settings with admin right
[08:36] <hayeah> then you go to konqueror and click on the folder to try to share it?
[08:36] <hayeah> and that doesn
[08:36] <hayeah> and that doesn't work because it's greyed out in konqueror
[08:37] <hayeah> is that what's happening?
[08:37] <GameOver> i go to system settings....internet and network.... then file sharing
[08:37] <GameOver> admin mode
[08:37] <GameOver> still grayed out
[08:37] <GameOver> thats how im going about it
[08:38] <hayeah> mmmm...
[08:39] <e_machinist> Are there any Kubuntu specific repositories? Or just the regular ubuntu ones?
[08:39] <hayeah> i don't know then...
[08:39] <hayeah> sorry, can't help
[08:39] <hayeah> just regular ubuntu ones
[08:39] <hayeah> unless you want to upgrade to KDE3.5
[08:40] <GameOver> i should upgrade?
[08:40] <hayeah> do you have nfs installed?
[08:40] <GameOver> not sure
[08:41] <hayeah> i think filesharing comes by default...
[08:41] <e_machinist> I was thinking of upgrading to 3.5... 3.4 is solid for me right now though.
[08:41] <hayeah> but... try  apt-get install nfs-common
[08:41] <hayeah> see if it installs anything
[08:42] <GameOver> i dont have it installed... but what will it do
[08:42] <hayeah> you don't have nfs installed?
[08:42] <e_machinist> NFS = Network File System, allows sharing between unix like operating systems.
[08:42] <hayeah> isn't it by default?
[08:43] <GameOver> i guess not
[08:43] <GameOver> i never uninstalled it
[08:43] <e_machinist> NFS is not usually installed by default. You have to set it up only if you need it.
[08:43] <hayeah> oh... i forgot then
[08:43] <hayeah> ok
[08:43] <GameOver> i used samba to get into my network and it works
[08:43] <aldreny> hiiii
[08:43] <GameOver> but my windows network doesnt see this computer
[08:44] <aldreny> ezayek ya hayah
[08:44] <hayeah> sudo apt-get install nfs-common nfs-kernel-server
[08:44] <GameOver> and i think its because nothing is technically bein shared
[08:44] <hayeah> oh, you are using samba..
[08:44] <aldreny> im using lunix
[08:44] <GameOver> well im using samba to set up the workgroup
[08:44] <hayeah> i don
[08:44] <hayeah> i don't know anything about samba
[08:45] <_aldreny> asl?
[08:45] <GameOver> so what do u suggest for networking
[08:46] <hayeah> I am not exactly an expert either
[08:46] <e_machinist> SMB allows communication between windows and non windows operating systems.
[08:46] <hayeah> just that I keep my own network simple, and go pure linux...
[08:47] <GameOver> alright... hey i havhe another problem... on my brothers pc i installed  the nvidia drivers from automatix.... now i cant get into linux anymore
[08:47] <hayeah> ha...
[08:47] <GameOver> can i uninstall it somehow without having to reinistall kubuntu alltogether
[08:47] <hayeah> kde won't start
[08:47] <hayeah> or the wholet hing won't start?
[08:48] <e_machinist> Do you have a Live CD?
[08:48] <GameOver> it loads everything, but wont go into the "graphic interface" if u will... just seems to stop at the end of loading everything
[08:48] <GameOver> no
[08:48] <e_machinist> do you get a command prompt?
[08:48] <e_machinist> or just nothing...
[08:48] <GameOver> i just see everything that has been loaded
[08:48] <GameOver> then thats it
[08:49] <hayeah> do you get the login screen?
[08:49] <GameOver> no
[08:49] <hayeah> do you get terminal?
[08:49] <aldreny> hiiiiiiiiiiiii    every body
[08:49] <aldreny> im new user for kubunto
[08:49] <hayeah> does ctrl-alt-f1 take you to terminal?
[08:49] <e_machinist> Typically I would say that you should remove the nvidia package using a CLI either on the system or from a live cd... haha.
[08:49] <GameOver> no.... is there anyway i can boot into a command prompt
[08:50] <GameOver> CLI?
[08:50] <Blippe> !automatix
[08:50] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[08:50] <e_machinist> Command Line Interface
[08:50] <sampan> gameover  try booting into 'recovery mode'
[08:50] <Blippe> command line interface
[08:50] <Blippe> cli
[08:50] <sampan> gameover  be on the lookout for a bunch of broken stuff even if you do get X/kde working again on that box.  i ended out having to do a complete reinstall after using automatix (but that was a couple months ago)
[08:50] <hayeah> i used it fine though
[08:50] <Altura> is there any way i make my file icons always line up properly in Konqueror?
[08:50] <hayeah> i even got the nice OSX effects and all...
[08:50] <GameOver> so how can i get into a CLI, and uninstall the drivers
[08:51] <GameOver> and how do i get into recovery mode
[08:51] <hayeah> i don't really know how to get to command line if ctrl-alt-f1 won't work
[08:51] <hayeah> but if you figure out how
[08:51] <Blippe> hayeah, some people have jammed screwdrivers into their heads, and it all worked out fine for them...
[08:51] <sampan> doesn't the grub menu have a "recovery mode" boot option?  (i really should reboot more often -- i even forget what the grub menu looks like)
[08:52] <GameOver> ok and if i get into grub mode... then what
[08:52] <GameOver> i mean recovery mode
[08:52] <hayeah> pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:52] <hayeah> find the line about driver
[08:52] <hayeah> change from nvidia to nv
[08:53] <GameOver> and what will that do
[08:53] <sampan> might want to comment out the "glx" line too -- might be necessary too.
[08:53] <hayeah> that uses the default linux driver rather than the proprietary nvidia driver
[08:53] <sampan> gameover  it will make X not load the nvidia drivers
[08:54] <GameOver> what do u mean by comment out?
[08:54] <hayeah> #
[08:54] <hayeah> in front of the line
[08:54] <sampan> put a # on the start of that line (# = comment ... i.e., X won't process that line)
[08:55] <GameOver> can i somehow uninstall the drivers from recovery mode... or once i get into kde again i can do it
[08:55] <hayeah> good luck. and remember that google is your friend. I am going to tend my own business
[08:55] <GameOver> sampan?
[08:55] <sampan> recovery mode is cli (with root/admin powers), so you can apt-get remove the driver package if you like
[08:56] <GameOver> by doing that do i have to do any remomving of lines?
[08:56] <sampan> yes, you would still have to change your xorg.conf
[08:57] <GameOver> ok..... would u happen to know the name of the nvidia package?
[08:58] <sampan> gameover  -assuming- automatix uses proper repos (which is an iffy assumption!!) it should be "nvidia-glx"  -- but it might have used something else from a weird repo (i've seen some messed up sources.list files from automatix)
[08:59] <GameOver> ok i will try it... may i ask u this... if u know... how can i go about getting the nvidia card to work then... once i sort this all out
[09:00] <sampan> the instructions on the wiki are good, and usually the repo packages work flawlessly (did for me)
[09:00] <sampan> !nvidia
[09:00] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[09:01] <Khris_dx> does ubuntu's package manager have a program to grab all files from a website?
[09:01] <GameOver> very nice....
[09:01] <GameOver> have anything good for an older ati radeon 7500 mobility card for a laptop
[09:01] <GameOver> i would like to do something with that as well
[09:02] <GameOver> only help i found is on the newer cards
[09:02] <sampan> :/
[09:02] <GameOver> haha its ok
[09:02] <GameOver> u mind if i ask u more questions
[09:02] <GameOver> ask u can see im new to the linux thing but learning quickly
[09:03] <Blippe> Khris_dx thera re several
[09:03] <sampan> i'm fairly new myself -- but you can ask anything you like ... i just may not have answers :D
[09:03] <GameOver> ok... do u use mplayer?
[09:03] <sampan> yeah
[09:03] <Khris_dx> Blippe: what would I use as a keyword to find them?
[09:04] <GameOver> ok how do u actually zoom in or get full screen without that horrible black frame
[09:04] <Blippe> i'm just trying http myself.
[09:04] <GameOver> its annoyin
[09:04] <lopar> heya.. i'm trying to get kubuntu up and running for the first time, but i'm having trouble with my wireless card.. something shows up as ath0 in the configuration screen, but it wont let me enable it
[09:04] <lopar> i'd like to try ndiswrapper
[09:04] <lopar> but i'm not sure how to install the tools for it
[09:04] <lopar> or where they're located if they're already there
[09:05] <sampan> gameover  lol -- i have no idea ... i use it very rarely ... and i don't think i've ever even tried to change the size from what the file is
[09:06] <GameOver> hmmm ok...... do u have any problems with streaming wmv on webpages with mplayer?
[09:06] <sampan> in options there's: half size, normal size, double size ... do those not work?
[09:07] <sampan> yeah, -some- wmv streams fail ... i presume that it's because .wmv is just a container and the codecs we have in ubuntu aren't complete (i.e., there are some wmv files that are encrypted and such and we lack the codecs for those)
[09:07] <GameOver> oh ok....
[09:07] <GameOver> no they dont work
[09:07] <GameOver> what it does is the folloing
[09:07] <GameOver> if i press full screen
[09:07] <GameOver> the video doesnt enlarge
[09:07] <GameOver> the black bars around the video do
[09:08] <GameOver> same thing with zooming
[09:08] <GameOver> check it out if u have a mpeg or avi
[09:08] <GameOver> or whatever video file
[09:08] <Khris_dx> Thanks Blippe
[09:08] <sampan> gameover  yeah, just gave it a whirl -- funny, i would have assumed it would zoom in too but it doesn't :/
[09:09] <GameOver> yeah i use vlc for now
[09:09] <GameOver> cant find any other player i like
[09:10] <GameOver> oh another thing.... on my brothers pc.... the sound doesnt work in kubuntu.... anyway of finding a way of fixing that... like a wiki or something
[09:10] <sampan> !sound
[09:10] <ubotu> hmm... sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[09:11] <sampan> sound on linux can be tricky -- i'd ask (with as many specifics as you can give) in here when it's really active and in #ubuntu too -- i know nothing about sound issues except that my 7 year old soundblaster live works and i've not had to fiddle with it
[09:12] <GameOver> lol good for u
[09:12] <sampan> lucky ;)
[09:14] <GameOver> ok last problem then bed.....i get my wireless to work... but unfortantely doesnt boot... have to go through all the steps i did to get it tow ork in the first place
[09:14] <GameOver> i installed ndis wrapper... did everyhting
[09:14] <GameOver> put the linen in interface, modules, whatever else
[09:14] <GameOver> but still when i reboot it doesntn work
[09:14] <GameOver> have to do it all over again
[09:16] <sampan> weird ... not saving the settings?  that's another issue i'd ask in #ubuntu or wait until #kubuntu is active ... wifi is another (one of many!) linux topics i know virtually nothing about.
[09:17] <GameOver> alright no prob
[09:17] <GameOver> thanks for ur help though
[09:17] <GameOver> i appreciate it
[09:18] <GameOver> im goin to bed... goodnight man
[09:18] <sampan> sorry i couldn't help out more --goodnight :)
[09:23] <lopar> when i reboot after a fresh install, i can't access administrative settings in the system settings anymore
[09:23] <lopar> it just accepts the password and refreshes the non-administrative page
[09:24] <sampan> lopar  that was a known bug discovered just after release, and fixed a couple of days after release
[09:24] <sampan> lopar, update your system and it will be fixed
[09:24] <lopar> alright, i'll do that once i can get net access to work on it
[09:24] <lopar> thanks
[09:25] <sampan> sure, np :)
[09:26] <lopar> do i have to do anything after installing an ndiswrapper net driver for it to detect properly?
[09:26] <lopar> it hasn't shown up yet
[09:26] <lopar> but i modprobed it and did ndiswrapper -m
[09:29] <Altura> how do i update to kde 3.5?
[09:30] <Altura> it does not show in adept
[10:21] <cyberclube> Hi people. Anyone upgraded to the lastest kernel (2.6.15-12) ? I upgraded and now I'm missing /prob/bus/usb/devices, altough I can get a lsusb listing.....
[10:22] <cyberclube> ... I am wondering how can this be, and if it could be considered a bug or not, since it breaks applications that were expecting /proc/bus/usb/devices to exist...
[10:25] <rysiek> hi there
[10:26] <rysiek> anybody feels like doing little helping? ;)
[10:27] <rysiek> ok, not that anybody's listening, but here goes:
[10:27] <cyberclube> hi rysiek : Tell us, Maybe someone can...
[10:28] <rysiek> I am sick and tired of Kubuntu firing up Konqueror (and, for cds, KsCD) whenever the system automounts a device - like cdrom, usb memory, etc
[10:29] <rysiek> whatismore in media:/ often those don't even show
[10:30] <rysiek> I suppose the latter is a configuration issue (sope packages must have had the scripts fked up), and so I suppose that when I know where to change the first, I'll know where to fix the second issue
[10:31] <rysiek> ergo my question is: where to change the default "on device mounted open the Konqueror window" behaviour?
[10:31] <rysiek> I've searched, googled, but could not find this one - supposedly my fault ;)
[10:32] <rysiek> IRC: [processing... please wait...] 
[10:35] <cyberclube> I wonder... "kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing" ... maybe this "webbrowsing" profile says that is konqueror that is beeing trigguered?
[10:36] <cyberclube> no, forget it, I've checked it out...
[10:36] <cyberclube> ... and no, it has nothing about it
[10:36] <cyberclube> sorry :-(
[10:39] <blackflag> hello all
[10:40] <blackflag> can someone tell me where I can find the "Qt library"
[10:40] <blackflag> ?
[10:42] <chx_> i would like to search for and replace with preg syntax in a directory , recursively . what tool should I use?
[10:44] <rysiek> blackflag: for what? I mean: you need it to build an app, or you need it to develop an app, aor what?
[10:45] <rysiek> cyberclube: I'm rather looking for a conf file that says something like: "OnAutoMount: 'kfmclient openURL media:/<path to mountpoint>'"
[10:46] <rysiek> cyberclube: and since I don't know, what program/part of the system is responsible for reacting on this event I don't know, where o look
[10:54] <cyberclube> rysiek: I understand what you're trying to do, and I know it's doable since, IIRC, SuSE does that to use firefox instead of konqueror
[10:55] <cyberclube> rysiek: However... I'm not remembering any clue to give you... Maybe my caffeine level is still too low :-p
[10:56] <Panzerboy> morning
[10:56] <rysiek> cyberclube: it has to be easy, too, as it's quite a simple thing - I just don't want Konqueror to fire-up everytime I insert a cd.
[10:57] <rysiek> cyberclube: I even thought (and still do) thet it should be possible to change it from within the System Setting
[10:57] <rysiek> s
[10:57] <rysiek> <cyberclube: but cannot find it there :/
[10:58] <rysiek> oh well, I'll just have to still live with this one, I suppose (*sigh*)
[10:59] <cyberclube> Hmm.... maybe it's KDE's response to the fstab/mtab being changed.... I  remember having seen some settings about that in earlier versions of kde... let me have a look...
[11:00] <rysiek> I'd think it might be rather related to HAL, but I'm not sure of that
[11:00] <tmircea> hello
[11:00] <rysiek> hi
[11:00] <Panzerboy> hey
[11:01] <tmircea> how can i install kdevelop on kubuntu ?
[11:01] <tmircea> apt-get ... ?
[11:01] <rysiek> apt-get install kdevelop?
[11:02] <rysiek> apt-get install kdevelop3 to be precise :)
[11:02] <tmircea> ty
[11:02] <rysiek> nop
[11:02] <Panzerboy> tmircea: or, if you're not sure, you can search with apt-cache] 
[11:02] <rysiek> ...like rysiek has just done ;)
[11:03] <tmircea> but for some strange reason kdesu or sudo doesnt work in kubuntu
[11:03] <tmircea> i cant run any app as root if im logged in as user
[11:03] <tmircea> neither from desktop or console
[11:03] <rysiek> ??
[11:03] <Panzerboy> tmircea: hmmm
[11:03] <Panzerboy> om my kubuntu sudo works like a charm
[11:03] <rysiek> yep, same here
[11:03] <rysiek> ok, but how on earth are you going to install kdevelop...
[11:04] <rysiek> ...when you can't get root privs?
[11:04] <rysiek> 8|
[11:04] <tmircea> su works
[11:04] <tmircea> not sudo
[11:04] <rysiek> ah
[11:04] <tmircea> tmircea@Home09036:~$ sudo cat /etc/shadow
[11:04] <tmircea> Password:
[11:04] <tmircea> Sorry, try again.
[11:04] <tmircea> Password:
[11:04] <tmircea> sudo: 1 incorrect password attempt
[11:04] <rysiek> who's passwd are you typing?..
[11:05] <rysiek> root's ot yours?
[11:05] <tmircea> it doesnt want to take my password
[11:05] <tmircea> root password ofcourse
[11:05] <tmircea> the correct one
[11:05] <rysiek> :] 
[11:05] <rysiek> you should type yours (user;s)
[11:05] <rysiek> that's the difference between sudo and su
[11:05] <tmircea> ?!
[11:05] <rysiek> you want the full story, or just a quick info? :)
[11:05] <tmircea> but sudo doesnt mean superuser-do so you need to enter root pass to do something as superuser?
[11:06] <rysiek> ok, full story:
[11:06] <rysiek> to use sudo, a user's login has to be included in the sudoers file
[11:06] <tmircea> ahem...
[11:06] <rysiek> this file is accessible ONLY by root
[11:07] <tmircea> ok im getting my name in that file now
[11:07] <rysiek> wait
[11:07] <tmircea> ./etc/sudoers?
[11:07] <rysiek> listen_to_the_end_please :)
[11:07] <tmircea> ok
[11:07] <rysiek> or you might fckup your system
[11:07] <rysiek> ok, oncxe more:
[11:07] <tmircea> uh oh
[11:08] <rysiek> to use sudo, user's login has to be in sudoers file, which is accessible ONLY by root
[11:08] <tmircea> su - root
[11:08] <tmircea> and vi /etc/sudoers
[11:08] <tmircea> is this all?
[11:08] <rysiek> so, if a user's login is already there, that means that root has given this user this possibility
[11:08] <tmircea> ok let me see?
[11:08] <rysiek> so when this user does "sudo whatever"
[11:09] <rysiek> the system needs only to check if this *really* is this user
[11:09] <rysiek> e.g. he hasn't left the console logged-in
[11:09] <tmircea> but ofcourse it is.. its me the user
[11:09] <tmircea> i didnt left the console
[11:09] <tmircea> im loged in
[11:09] <rysiek> ok, but the system just wants to check
[11:09] <rysiek> just in case someone stabbed you in the back ;)
[11:10] <tmircea> ok now can i edit the file as root to add myself?
[11:10] <rysiek> if you type-in your (user's) password, than it's you
[11:10] <tmircea> yes i get it .. thats why its asking for my pass
[11:10] <rysiek> yep
[11:10] <rysiek> try:
[11:10] <rysiek> sudo whoami
[11:10] <rysiek> and type in your password
[11:12] <tmircea> it says im root
[11:12] <tmircea> why
[11:12] <tmircea> im in sudoers?
[11:12] <rysiek> because you have just executed whoami AS root
[11:12] <rysiek> yes, man, you are
[11:12] <rysiek> :)
[11:12] <tmircea> ahem...
[11:12] <tmircea> lets see
[11:12] <tmircea> if it works now
[11:12] <tmircea> kdesu
[11:13] <rysiek> Kubuntu automagically adds the user that is added during the install to sudoers
[11:13] <tmircea> im beginig to get all this sudo stuff.. its cool :)
[11:13] <tmircea> sudo is so usefull
[11:13] <tmircea> no need to use root anymore
[11:14] <rysiek> by using sudo you USE root :)
[11:14] <tmircea> i mean no need to log in as root any more
[11:14] <rysiek> I still use su all the time
[11:14] <tmircea> sudo is more safe
[11:14] <tmircea> sudo cat /dev/zero > /
[11:14] <rysiek> ok, but sometimes you need to execute a few commands - and this is when su comes in ;)
[11:15] <rysiek> ??
[11:15] <rysiek> what ahve you just said? :)
[11:15] <tmircea> nuthin' :P(
[11:15] <tmircea> i fcked up my linux box
[11:15] <rysiek>  sudo cat /dev/zero > / -> this *will* fk up the system :)
[11:15] <tmircea> yeah
[11:15] <tmircea> :)
[11:16] <tmircea> im not trying it though anymore
[11:16] <tmircea> already cried enough when i did try it
[11:17] <rysiek> no wonde
[11:17] <rysiek> r
[11:17] <tmircea> how is poland?
[11:17] <rysiek> cool (literally - it's -7*C)
[11:18] <mth`MAW> moin
[11:18] <tmircea> i live in stupid people's dirty country
[11:18] <tmircea> full of peasant
[11:18] <mth`MAW> Hello I ment
[11:18] <tmircea> romania
[11:19] <tmircea> sudo ping -f -s 6800 www.microsoft.com
[11:19] <rysiek> tmircea: don't worry, I live in a country, where those - *ehem* - so-called "smart" people don't care about voting, hence a country, which is governed by peasants :/
[11:20] <rysiek> hi, MAW :)
[11:20] <tmircea> same thing in romania.. they dont care about voting .. the peasants.. but the country is ruled by criminals and cutthroats and they are ok with it since the few idiots who do care about voting choose them
[11:21] <tmircea> and after that they dont like what they voted
[11:21] <rysiek> btw, did you know that microsoft.com is a linux box? :] 
[11:22] <tmircea> heck, it was.. its Windows server 2003 powered now
[11:22] <am> hasn't been a linux box for a while
[11:22] <rysiek> oh, really? I've gotold info then
[11:23] <rysiek> how's the uptime then? :)
[11:23] <tmircea> very good
[11:23] <tmircea> windows 2003 is stable
[11:23] <rysiek> wait, what was the url of that uptime-logging page?
[11:23] <tmircea> www.netcraft.com?
[11:23] <tmircea> www.netcraft.com
[11:23] <rysiek> yep, thx
[11:23] <am> tmircea: if its load balanced then its going to be good because you can pull machines down at will
[11:23] <am> regardless of OS
[11:24] <nlindblad> am: most big sites load balance
[11:24] <tmircea> there are still linux boxen much more unstable by default than windows 2003 boxes
[11:24] <tmircea> yes i know they load balance
[11:24] <tmircea> its logical.. they are a big site
[11:24] <rysiek> Last reboot	88 days ago
[11:25] <rysiek> I am not impressed
[11:25] <am> exactly. Anyways they did an interview with the guys that run microsoft.com and they kept having to reset boxes because they were running out of memory until they brought out the 64 bit version
[11:25] <rysiek> :)
[11:26] <nlindblad> uptime is overrated
[11:26] <rysiek> m'kay, whatever
[11:26] <am> tmircea: it just depends what your doing and what you count as stable. we have 4 win2k3 machines and 22 linux boxen. The linux boxes all (unless someones done a kernel upgrade in the last week) have uptimes of 400days plus.
[11:27] <tmircea> i am waiting for RHEL 4 to be powerpc-enabled since i have a powermac g5 dual-2.7ghz.. and want to run linux too since mac os x is too less for me
[11:27] <am> i have 2 of the 2k3 boxes up to 204 days
[11:27] <nlindblad> am: when I hear 400 days I think "vurnerable kernels!"
[11:27] <am> tmircea: kubuntu PPC doesn't work ? also there is debian and yellowdog linux
[11:27] <am> nlindblad: these aren't outward facing
[11:28] <am> internal serves
[11:28] <am> servers
[11:28] <tmircea> yea i think i will run kubuntu too
[11:28] <nlindblad> am: but 400 days, are they even 2.6?
[11:28] <tmircea> yellowdog is commercial
[11:28] <tmircea> though
[11:28] <am> nlindblad: yeh of course
[11:28] <rysiek> I thinkwe're slowly getting to a theological discussion here...
[11:28] <am> 2.6.7 or 8 afaik
[11:28] <nlindblad> am: right
[11:28] <rysiek> ...which might not exactly be neutral on this channel :)
[11:28] <tmircea> when will kernel 2.7 be available?
[11:28] <nlindblad> am: well, if you know what you're doing you can tell when you need to upgrade
[11:28] <am> i think the 8 ones are actually not too bad no serious vuls afaik
[11:29] <nlindblad> am: most users think having the latest is always the best, that's not necessarily true
[11:29] <nlindblad> am: if you look at the changelog you can tell if you need to bother, in most cases you don't
[11:29] <rysiek> tmircea: the kernels with odds as minor vesuions are unstable and development versions
[11:29] <am> nlindblad: well 2.6.7 has a iptables vuln from memory that will allow a dos but its not like i will get that on an internal network
[11:29] <tmircea> i know
[11:29] <tmircea> i wanna be tester
[11:29] <rysiek> a, ok :)
[11:30] <tmircea> and tell linus what doesnt work
[11:30] <rysiek> I have no idea
[11:30] <tmircea> or else its gonan remain the same and enter stable versions and ppl wil complain after that
[11:30] <nlindblad> am: a good approach would be to build most of the stuff as modules
[11:30] <tmircea> that we didnt tell developers what didnt work in dev kernels
[11:30] <am> tmircea: you can be....the kernels are up on kernel.org
[11:30] <tmircea> since we know we need to say nothing, because they are just dev. kernels
[11:30] <nlindblad> am: should be possible to patch iptables and compile a new module then switch the old one out
[11:30] <rysiek> modules? bah! have you heard about HURD? :)
[11:31] <tmircea>  i know they are on kernel.org, but im waiting till 2.7 will appear
[11:31] <am> nlindblad: yes and no, see if you build it as modules you can disable it, but if you do and someone does crack your box then your kernel accepts modules so a hacker could theoretically load a kernel module without you knowing
[11:31] <nlindblad> am: there are various ways you can prevent most of those scenarios
[11:31] <am> however all of my kerneles actually ARE using modules :)
[11:32] <nlindblad> am: and if they get root, it doesn't matter anyway
[11:32] <am> but i was just playing devils advocate
[11:32] <tmircea> modules are a bit of security issue, but the lack of them = performance impact
[11:32] <nlindblad> am: modules should be on a read-only filesystem
[11:32] <tmircea> +_ flexibility problem
[11:32] <am> tmircea: performance ?
[11:32] <nlindblad> am: and be remounted only for patching/upgrading
[11:32] <tmircea> a kernel who has too many builtin modules eats more memory
[11:32] <tmircea> + it runs more slowly
[11:33] <am> tmircea:  linux should swap out everything that isn't being used...its only an issue to begin with and on smaller devices.
[11:34] <rysiek> ok, gtg guys
[11:34] <rysiek> cu all
[11:34] <tmircea> bye bye
[11:34] <tmircea> see ya
[11:36] <C-O-L-T> does exist a shutdown expert for linux, I mean I can set my computer to turn on in the morning and play a music or something
[11:36] <am> C-O-L-T: of course you can
[11:36] <tmircea> only in biod
[11:36] <tmircea> bios
[11:36] <tmircea> u can auto turn on computer after is powerd off
[11:36] <am> C-O-L-T: tell your bios to turn on at what ever time
[11:37] <nlindblad> or just do a suspend to RAM
[11:37] <am> and then set the appropriate scripts in init.d
[11:37] <tmircea> i dont have such a option on my laptop :(
[11:37] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: it's generally not a good idea to ask the same thing in two channels at the same time
[11:37] <am> nlindblad: i've been waiting for suspend to work on the g3 ibooks for years
[11:37] <nlindblad> am: write it?
[11:38] <C-O-L-T> am: I need a program which turns on my computer at 7 in the morning plays music from my hard drive and downloads files from the net and 2 hours later turns off like ShutDown Expert for Windows
[11:38] <tmircea> btw, anybody knows if i can run AIX 5L on a powermac g5?
[11:38] <am> nlindblad: haha i had a go at fixing it once but that ended in disaster...i almost fried (well i thought i had ) my openfirmware
[11:38] <nlindblad> am: okey
[11:38] <nlindblad> am: but how different could it be from x86?
[11:39] <am> hugely
[11:39] <nlindblad> really?
[11:39] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: why?
[11:39] <am> not even anything close
[11:39] <nlindblad> am: okey, I rest my case then
[11:39] <am> yeh, its the ATI chipset
[11:39] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: well, it's a form of spam, and it means that you get two lots of people responding ot the same question
[11:40] <am> nlindblad: i wasn't saying it was easy, i was just saying don't hold your breath for suspend to work
[11:40] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: yes :))) That's the point
[11:41] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[11:57] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: I can get a lot of opinions in the same time, that means that I can choose the best
[11:57] <Hobbsee> true, assuming you want opinions
[11:57] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: And it is not spam. Cause I am writing in different channels not in the same
[11:57] <Hobbsee> true, a lot of people are in both channels
[11:58] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: The problem is that nowadays for everything people are saying it is spam.
[11:58] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: We really don't know the definition of spam.
[11:59] <Hobbsee> painful writing ;) - incorporates most things
[12:00] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: I don't want to hurt people, but I don't like when for everything they say don't spam. Nobody answers to my questions, I post it two times and I am banned because of spamming. This is not spamming, spamming is when I am writing the same thing for more than 10 times one after another. Or when you get 500 emails that is spamming in my opinion
[12:03] <robotgeek> hey Hobbsee C-O-L-T
[12:03] <Hobbsee> hi robotgeek
[12:04] <C-O-L-T> robotgekk: hi
[12:04] <robotgeek> pretty slow, huh
[12:05] <Hobbsee> some people just dont understand tab completion at all
[12:06] <robotgeek> i'm wondering if it has to do with the 2 e's in geek
[12:07] <Hobbsee> dont get me started on the weird, random symbols that some people use, like [ } | ~ etc
[12:07] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: not all the time, cause for example now I am in windows and here this thing does not works, though I use GAIM
[12:08] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: windows gaim doesnt have tab completion?
[12:08] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: No it does not have
[12:08] <Hobbsee> weird
[12:09] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: __ too
[12:09] <Hobbsee> oh yes, dont get me started on them....
[12:09] <robotgeek> C-O-L-T: xchat has a windows port?
[12:09] <Hobbsee> there's even some form of irssi for windows, too
[12:10] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: when I am writing to you, I am so gentle that I am writing every time your name because I know that when I am writing your name linux will highlight to you
[12:10] <Hobbsee> true, and it's awesome :)
[12:10] <Hobbsee> which is why i respond quickly - because it beeps
[12:10] <ecki> hello
[12:11] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: I need a program for Linux. I am looking for it in windows for 2 weeks but I can not find a s...ial or c....ck for it. :)
[12:11] <Hobbsee> say what?  i understood all but the last bit
[12:12] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: I need a program which can make for me slideshows of my pictures with music which I can write to video cd or dvd to view on a dvd player on tv
[12:12] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: serial/crack
[12:12] <Hobbsee> ah, right
[12:12] <C-O-L-T> robotgeek: yes just I did not wanted to post illegal wordas
[12:13] <Hobbsee> hmmm...not sure what you'd use for that
[12:13] <ecki> i have a problem with a usb hd with a extended partion on it, if i plug it in i get an error unable to load sdb1
[12:13] <ecki> how can i fix that ?
[12:14] <fox-boy> hi all... I downloaded the kubuntu 5.10 iso but it won't boot.  Yes, my bios is set to let the CD-ROM boot.   Any idea why it won't load?
[12:14] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: a kind of open office presentation but in video format vcd especially or dvd
[12:14] <Hobbsee> fox-boy: did you check the md5sum on it?
[12:14] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: hmmm...not sure, sorry
[12:15] <robotgeek> fox-boy: and did you burn it at a slow rate? < 8x
[12:15] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: Anyway you use a program in windows?
[12:15] <Hobbsee> only programs i use in windows are games
[12:15] <robotgeek> ecki: can you post the output of "sudo fdisk -l" to the pastebin
[12:15] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: why don't you use Cedega
[12:16] <Hobbsee> sims 2 wont run under cedega, or wouldnt before
[12:16] <fox-boy> Hobbsee:  thanks. This might be simple but I've never checked the md5sum before.  Is there a command I can enter to check?
[12:16] <Hobbsee> !md5sum
[12:16] <ubotu> Hobbsee: Are you smoking crack?
[12:16] <ecki> yes one mom robotgeek
[12:16] <Hobbsee> !mdsum
[12:16] <ubotu> Hobbsee: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[12:16] <Hobbsee> !iso
[12:16] <ubotu> methinks iso is download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[12:17] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: do you know a site or a program where I can download games, especially sim city 4. I am fond of sim city, but here in my town which is a very small one in north eastern part of romania in the carpathian mountains nobody is interested in sim city
[12:17] <Hobbsee> fox-boy: yes, there is a command, but i dont actually remember what it is...looking for more info
[12:17] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: you would be asking about warez sites
[12:18] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: I don't know what are they
[12:18] <Hobbsee> fox-boy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[12:18] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: I just want sim city 4
[12:18] <fox-boy> Hobbsee:  Thanks, I'll look into this.
[12:18] <ecki> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/506528 @ robotgeek
[12:18] <Hobbsee> you'd have to buy it, i'd say
[12:19] <Hobbsee> !verifyiso
[12:19] <ubotu> I don't know, Hobbsee
[12:19] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: know here we don't buy anything :) which is connected to computers :))))
[12:19] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: just the hardware
[12:19] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[12:20] <robotgeek> !verify
[12:20] <ubotu> somebody said verify was to check the integrity of your installation media, one way is to visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[12:20] <Hobbsee> hehe, so i was using the wrong factoid, yep
[12:20] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: I can not immagine that everything is legal on your computer
[12:20] <robotgeek> ecki: what does dmesg say when you plug it in?
[12:20] <Hobbsee> all of my kubuntu breezy and kubuntu dapper stuff is...
[12:20] <Hobbsee> obviously
[12:21] <Hobbsee> my windows is legit, office is legit, sims 2 is legit...dreamweaver is legit...
[12:21] <robotgeek> i don't own a copy of windows, lol
[12:21] <robotgeek> -offtopic, sorry
[12:21] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: ubuntu / kubuntu and so on they are free stuff
[12:21] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: it is, but there's a fair bit of freeware stuff i used to have on there too, rather than various shareware stuff
[12:22] <Hobbsee> my winbox doesnt connect to the net at all anymore, so it doesnt have a lot on it
[12:22] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: anyway I use open offce which is legit, but most of my programs under windows are not legit
[12:23] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: question
[12:23] <ecki> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/506531 @ robotgeek
[12:23] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: yep, shoot
[12:23] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: Can I run Gnome or Kde in windows and their programs too I mean Kopete, Konversation, and so on
[12:23] <Hobbsee> !cgwin
[12:23] <ubotu> Hobbsee: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[12:24] <Hobbsee> hmm...dont think i spelt that right
[12:24] <Panzerboy> anybody here got skype running on kbuntu?
[12:24] <Panzerboy> kubuntu even
[12:24] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: there's a program called cygwin, which will let you run linux programs in windows
[12:24] <gambix> any idea to how to install an ubuntu on a portable pc turion 64 ?
[12:24] <Hobbsee> !cygwin
[12:24] <ubotu> Hobbsee: I give up, what is it?
[12:24] <gambix> because it crash !
[12:24] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: might be something else too, but i dont remember the name
[12:24] <robotgeek> ecki: i think it detected correctly, maybe you can mount it manually?
[12:24] <Hobbsee> !tell Panzerboy about skype
[12:24] <gambix> both 32 and 64 version
[12:25] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: cygwin it is
[12:25] <Hobbsee> robotgeek: yep, knew the first looked wrong - thanks for that
[12:25] <ecki> robotgeek, sdb5 is ok but i wonder that i get an error with sdb1
[12:26] <ecki> i dont have that problem under Gnome
[12:26] <larsivi> Hobbsee, C-O-L-T: It is called cygwin, but it is really ported unix tools
[12:26] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: I see, and it will mix up my windows
[12:27] <larsivi> Hobbsee, C-O-L-T: It is mostly dev packages to make it easier to compile unix stuff on Windows
[12:27] <Panzerboy> Hobbsee: thanks
[12:27] <larsivi> Hobbsee, C-O-L-T: Interferes very little with Windows itself
[12:27] <robotgeek> ecki: you mean the same hdd mounts under gnome, but not under kde? do you have both installed?
[12:28] <ecki> yes robotgeek
[12:28] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: I am writing to you in private, do you get it
[12:28] <robotgeek> ecki: hmm, maybe it's a bug in the kde mount thing then
[12:28] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: nope
[12:28] <C-O-L-T> Hobbsee: why?
[12:28] <Hobbsee> you need to be identified
[12:29] <Hobbsee> and it's rude to PM someone without asking permission first, by the way ;)
[12:29] <Hobbsee> !register
[12:29] <ubotu> well, register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[12:29] <ecki> robotgeek, yes i think so
[12:30] <ecki> robotgeek, i will go to bugzilla
[12:30] <ecki> thx btw
[12:30] <robotgeek> ecki: maybe file a bug, thanks!
[12:32] <Fusionfox> eehh my computer shutted down in a not secured way and now when i open storage media i only get the floppy drive and all others components are gone.... please help...
[12:39] <robotgeek> Fusionfox: what do you mean? all other components? insecure shutdown?
[12:39] <Fusionfox> ehh i dont know how to say it robotgeek
[12:40] <Fusionfox> my computer is conected directrly and the electricity was gone and computer shutted down
[12:40] <Hentai^XP> insecure shutdown?  windows ?
[12:40] <Fusionfox> like unpluging the cable
[12:41] <Fusionfox> but before that when i pressed on storeage media i could see the icons of the cd roms and Hda , hdb
[12:41] <Fusionfox> and now i only see the floppy, and all others things wont show
[12:41] <robotgeek> Fusionfox: do you know if they work? hardware wise?
[12:42] <Fusionfox> and if i manyally type /media/ i cannot write on the HDD, robotgeek
[12:42] <Fusionfox> robotgeek: what???...
[12:45] <robotgeek> Fusionfox: as in they are not spoiled?
[12:45] <Hentai^XP> chkdsk them err...my bad
[12:46] <Fusionfox> robotgeek: i dont understand what you mean with spolied...
[12:47] <robotgeek> Fusionfox: as in the electricity failure did not damamge the cdrom?
[12:48] <Fusionfox> robotgeek: oh no, they work normally, the only thing is that they are not shown on storage media
[12:48] <Fusionfox> and i cannot use them.
[12:49] <Hentai^XP> what about dmesg?
[12:49] <Hentai^XP> does that detect your HW that is messed up?
[12:49] <Fusionfox> dmseg?, whats that for?
[12:49] <Fusionfox> let me try
[12:50] <Fusionfox> bash: dmseg: command not found
[12:50] <Hentai^XP> dmesg maybe it
[12:50] <Hentai^XP> - maybe no e
[12:50] <Fusionfox> hehehee
[12:50] <Hentai^XP> I've forgotten that stuff
[12:51] <Hentai^XP> robotgeek does dmsg|more work?
[12:52] <Fusionfox> isnt there a command to start plug and play =P?
[12:53] <blackflag> can someone tell me how I can make mysqlcc useable for a user?
[12:54] <blackflag> In the moment I can only use it as root
[12:55] <Fusionfox> i really dont have an answer for that but.... change its permition with chown?? blackflag?
[12:55] <robotgeek> Hentai^XP: yes
[12:55] <sweet_kate> hello i need to write a text that will be compatible with microsoft office
[12:56] <sweet_kate> how can i do that?
[12:56] <blackflag> yes I can that. but I wnat it for all users useable
[12:56] <Hentai^XP> Fusionfox try dmsg|more than and see if your missing HW is listed
[12:56] <Hentai^XP> sweet_kate you have open office?
[12:56] <Fusionfox> sweet_kate: save it as an Office file
[12:57] <Hentai^XP> I was just gonna say save it as a .txt file but w\e
[12:57] <sweet_kate> Fusionfox: which extension?
[12:57] <Fusionfox> sweet_kate: depends. on what type of document you are working with. texts are .doc, excel are .xml
[12:57] <Fusionfox> sorry .xls
[12:57] <sweet_kate> only text
[12:58] <Fusionfox> but in openoffice it gives you the option to do that
[12:58] <sweet_kate> but will my text keep the format?
[12:58] <Fusionfox> click on save as
[12:58] <Fusionfox> yeah
[12:58] <Fusionfox> bash: dmseg: command not found
[12:59] <Fusionfox> Hentai^XP: thats what i get
[12:59] <Hentai^XP> dmsg
[12:59] <Fusionfox> bash: dmsg: command not found
[12:59] <Hentai^XP> what is it shessh
[12:59] <Fusionfox> Hentai^XP: is it wha.....
[12:59] <Hentai^XP> ?
[01:00] <Fusionfox> aww man xP they say linux is great but it gets the wierds errors in the whole world
[01:00] <Fusionfox> >_> cannot it wok right someday =P
[01:00] <Fusionfox> work*
[01:01] <Hobbsee> Fusionfox: dmesg is the one you want
[01:01] <Fusionfox> ahh
[01:02] <Fusionfox> eeh heheheh now i get a BIG list
[01:02] <Hobbsee> hehe
[01:02] <Baldrun> I really disagree...I just switched from windows xp to kubuntu and linux is a lot, lot better
[01:02] <Hentai^XP> dmesg|more
[01:02] <Fusionfox> OMG it deleted my hda2
[01:02] <Fusionfox> what tha fuc...
[01:02] <Ilokaasu> i got my wlan working but this is slow as ** ...any solution why this is so damn slow (linksys wrt54g)
[01:03] <Hentai^XP> Baldrun I found it all depends how their ran
[01:03] <Fusionfox> eeehhhh where can i paste this errors messages?
[01:03] <Hentai^XP> !+pastebin
[01:03] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:03] <Hentai^XP> there ^
[01:05] <Fusionfox> now can anycheck my post and help me!! *cries* Y_Y
[01:05] <sweet_kate> !it
[01:05] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:06] <Hentai^XP> Fusionfox what post?
[01:06] <Fusionfox> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7165
[01:07] <Fusionfox> ive never seen that much error not even in guindows =P
[01:08] <Hentai^XP> Fusionfox gonna have to take it to someone more exp than me
[01:09] <Fusionfox> damn >_< and no one is chatting Y_Y
[01:09] <Hentai^XP> go #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:09] <fox-boy> hello again... I checked my md5sums against the downloaded iso and subsequently the burned CD and they all match.  My system is configured to boot off the CD-ROM.  Any idea why the iso won't boot?
[01:10] <Ilokaasu> fox-boy:  stupid question but did u burn it as "image" ?
[01:12] <fox-boy> Ilokaasu:  That's a good question.  I'm not sure.  I checked the contents of the CD and it says kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso.  So I take it I've burned an image.
[01:12] <Ilokaasu> are u in win now ?
[01:13] <fox-boy> Ilokaasu:  win?
[01:13] <Ilokaasu> windows :P?
[01:13] <jpatrick> windows
[01:13] <Hobbsee> hi jpatrick
[01:13] <fox-boy> no  I use Linux / debian
[01:13] <jpatrick> anyone here have experience with sound cards?
[01:14] <jpatrick> hi Hobbsee
[01:14] <Hentai^XP> fox-boy you just burned the file onto the CD
[01:14] <Ilokaasu> fox-boy:  u need to burn that file "as image", if u check your cdrom contents and there is that .iso file, u havent burned it as image
[01:14] <Hentai^XP> fox-boy you need to burn it as a image
[01:14] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: crim$un is the one you want to ask
[01:14] <Fusionfox> can anyone help me? =P http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7165
[01:16] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: all the sound module does is say default can't be opened of capture (Device or resource busy)
[01:16] <fox-boy> I'm using K3b for my burner application.  I'll go back and figure out how to burn an "image".
[01:16] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: wonder if that means that you (the user) is not in the audio group or something
[01:16] <jpatrick> for*
[01:16] <jpatrick> I am in the group
[01:17] <fox-boy> thanks, all for your help
[01:17] <Hobbsee> fox-boy: you're looking for "burn cd image"
[01:17] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: ask crimsun - i know that's one of the problems that i'd had with it
[01:17] <jpatrick> crimsun: ping
[01:17] <fox-boy> Hobbsee:  OK thanks.
[01:21] <weedar> Is there a kde-frontend to gnupgp like gpg?
[01:21] <robotgeek> weedar: kgpg
[01:22] <weedar> thank you robotgeek, for some reason I misspelled it when searching and found nothing :)
[01:22] <knubbe> anyone who successfully managed to install opera from the apt repository?
[01:23] <fox-boy> Hobbsee:  here are my options in K3b   "Simulate", "Burnfree", "Only create image" and "Remove Image"
[01:23] <Hobbsee> knubbe: it's not in apt, is it?
[01:23] <Hobbsee> !+opera
[01:23] <ubotu> Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and get then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[01:23] <Hobbsee> fox-boy: only create image, then
[01:23] <fox-boy> Hobbsee:  OK, here goes.
[01:23] <Hobbsee> !no opera is Opera isn't in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[01:23] <ubotu> Hobbsee: what are you talking about?
[01:24] <knubbe> Hobbsee: deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free
[01:24] <Hobbsee> ah right
[01:24] <sweet_kate> how much space should take ubuntu-desktop?
[01:25] <knubbe> i added that one, but i still get an error when i try to install ("opera: Depends: libqt3c102-mt but it is not installable")
[01:25] <Hobbsee> sudo apt-get install libqt3c102-mt?
[01:25] <Hobbsee> !info libqt3c102-mt
[01:25] <sweet_kate> ciao raffaele
[01:25] <sweet_kate> nardo
[01:25] <raffaele> sweet_kate: ciao
[01:26] <robotgeek> sweet_kate: the whole installation is 1.6 GB, but if you have the base system down, it should be abt 400 MB or so, i think
[01:26] <sweet_kate> ok
[01:26] <robotgeek> Hobbsee: hmm, seems like sweet_kate is using the broken package
[01:26] <knubbe> Hobbsee: the thing is.. that lib is now replaced by libqt3-mc
[01:26] <Hobbsee> knubbe: download the static deb, or the ubuntu one from opera site
[01:27] <robotgeek> my bad, knubbe
[01:27] <knubbe> Hobbsee: i tried that (the deb from the opera site), and it worked fine. however i installed it to use the one from the repository instead, since the wiki says it works.
[01:27] <robotgeek> knubbe: get the one from seveas's repo or plf
[01:27] <sweet_kate> raffaele: di dv sei?
[01:28] <robotgeek> knubbe: then just use the opera deb
[01:28] <raffaele> sweet_kate: castrovillari
[01:29] <knubbe> robotgeek: ok. i thought it would be nice to use the deb from the repository..
[01:29] <raffaele> sweet_kate: tu?
[01:30] <knubbe> robotgeek: uh. nevermind what i said.
[01:30] <slewis> Is there a auto update program that can be run in the background like in gnome?
[01:30] <Hobbsee> slewis: not at the moment
[01:31] <sweet_kate> napoli raffaele
[01:31] <slewis> Hobbsee: Thanks, I'll have to do a shell script everyday or something :S
[01:31] <Hobbsee> lol
[01:31] <Hobbsee> i have one, it's very useful
[01:32] <Hobbsee> make it a cron job, to execute the script, if you want to do get really fancy :P
[01:32] <slewis> That was the plan ;)
[01:32] <Hobbsee> yep
[01:34] <Snifffurt> hi
[01:34] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: amarok 1.3.8 RC1 is ready
[01:34] <Snifffurt> what pdfreader supports bookmarking?
[01:34] <Hobbsee> ooh fun!
[01:34] <Snifffurt> KPDF doesn't seem to do so!?
[01:34] <jpatrick> Hobbsee: http://share.bit-freaks.net/amarok-1.3.8_RC1.tar.bz2
[01:35] <mark_> hi all
[01:35] <sweet_kate> what chat client are you using people??
[01:35] <Hobbsee> jpatrick: ah, i was just using the svn version of it - there much difference, seeing as i already have a svn version on here?
[01:35] <mark_> im looking for a kde front end to pppoe... does anyone have any suggestions?
[01:35] <Hobbsee> sweet_kate: konversation, or irssi
[01:35] <jpatrick> Not sure
[01:35] <sweet_kate> Hobbsee: irssi text client?
[01:35] <Hobbsee> sweet_kate: yep, useful when you dont have a GUI
[01:36] <sweet_kate> ok
[01:36] <slewis> Does any know what to do if the clipboard program goes crazy and keeps flashing "you have a URL in the clipboard" apart from "disabling actions" which is what I've done
[01:36] <knubbe> robotgeek: what is seveas or plf repo?
[01:36] <slewis> irssi++
[01:37] <robotgeek> !easysource
[01:37] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:37] <Hobbsee> slewis: klipper?  i disabled the entire thing, so not sure
[01:38] <slewis> Hobbsee: yep klipper, I find it quite useful when I select urls's in irssi
[01:38] <slewis> but unfortunately it now goes crazy :(
[01:38] <Hobbsee> good point
[01:39] <Hobbsee> ack, got an error
[01:41] <_root> hello
[01:41] <_root> i using kubuntu
[01:42] <_root> i want to play mp3 , where can i   get amarok engines for mp3
[01:42] <Tm_T> root...
[01:42] <_root> help me
[01:42] <Tm_T> you haven't said what amarok you use, and what engine
[01:43] <_root> any amarok 1.3
[01:43] <Tm_T> o  k
[01:43] <Tm_T> !mp3
[01:43] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:43] <_root> amarok 1.3  engine          gstreamer
[01:43] <Tm_T> there you go, any amarok and any engine
[01:43] <_root> thanks
[01:44] <Tm_T> and you really should update your amarok
[01:44] <Tm_T> 1.3.7 atleast
[01:44] <tuskernini> hi all, how do i switch to kde in ubuntu?
[01:44] <_root> how to update   amarok
[01:44] <tuskernini> i did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:45] <tuskernini> do i have to remove all the gnome stuff one by one?
[01:45] <_root> can i use  mozilla firefox in kubuntu
[01:45] <Hobbsee> _root: yes, sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[01:46] <Hobbsee> although, if you have gnome, you'll already have it installed
[01:46] <Hobbsee> !tell tuskernini about removegnome
[01:48] <_root> what sudo  password, not  same with root  password
[01:48] <polachok> plz help w video codecs too
[01:49] <james> hey all
[01:49] <james> whats going on?
[01:49] <tuskernini> Hobbsee, will i still be able to use nfs between this and my other breezy pc?
[01:49] <polachok> i tried to watch an avi w/Kaffeine and hear only sound - no video
[01:49] <Hobbsee> tuskernini: how do you use nfs?  via a console, or via a program?
[01:49] <tuskernini> console
[01:49] <Ilokaasu> polachok: media codecs needed ?
[01:50] <Ilokaasu> try vlc media player, it has all codecs integrated
[01:50] <james> plachok you tried automatix?
[01:50] <robotgeek> !automatix
[01:50] <ubotu> well, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[01:50] <Tm_T> :)
[01:50] <polachok> james no
[01:50] <Tm_T> ubotu: thank you
[01:50] <ubotu> de rien, Tm_T
[01:50] <james> ubotu thats a bit harsh, its good for noobies and fast installs :)
[01:50] <ubotu> james: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:50] <james> lol
[01:50] <tuskernini> Hobbsee, i use nfs from my gnome pc... mount -t nfs 192.blabla/home /home/nfsdir
[01:50] <Tm_T> james: it's not
[01:51] <robotgeek> james: ubotu is a bot. noobies are the most affected if it breaks your box
[01:51] <james> Anyone in here play wesnoth?
[01:51] <Hobbsee> tuskernini: you can do that in kde as well
[01:52] <Tm_T> ubotu: tell polachok about mp3
[01:52] <Tm_T> polachok: I think there's info about movies too
[01:52] <tuskernini> Hobbsee, i first just installed kubuntu-desktop, but now am doing a apt-get install kde
[01:52] <Hobbsee> why are you getting kde if you already have kubuntu-desktop?
[01:52] <tuskernini> Hobbsee, then i will do the removegnome trick
[01:52] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: more packages
[01:53] <pablet> hello i have one problem: i have installed kubuntu from network with linux-image-686 and usplash is not running, and I see when booting a "sed Unsupported command" prompt
[01:53] <pablet> can anyone help me please?
[01:53] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: hmmm...way more packages
[01:53] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: aye
[01:53] <Tm_T> pablet: well well, update your system?
[01:53] <Tm_T> pablet: I saw that before release, never after
[01:54] <pablet> apt-dist upgrade and everything is updated
[01:54] <Tm_T> pablet: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:55] <Tm_T> pablet: btw it's breezy?
[01:55] <pablet> yes, breezy (installed from kubuntu hoary cd, only the base system, and changed hoary to breezy in sources.lis)
[01:56] <robotgeek> pablet: did you dist-upgrade ?
[01:56] <pablet> yes
[01:56] <robotgeek> okay
[01:57] <pablet> and installed linux-image-686 linux-restricted-modules-686 first to have an optimized kernel
[01:58] <pablet> my "active" sources : deb http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse, deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted,deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[01:59] <pablet> I installed kde, kubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-base and other individual packages
[02:00] <pablet> I installed usplash usplash artwork and other packages
[02:00] <pablet> no idea?
[02:03] <pablet> please tell me your sources and I will add to my file in order to get the system upgraded (and I will get kde 3.5 installed too)
[02:04] <pablet> because "es" server doesn't seems to have these packages upgraded (I don't know if this can be the problem...)
[02:05] <Tm_T> !kde35
[02:05] <ubotu> No idea, Tm_T
[02:05] <Tm_T> hmm
[02:05] <Tm_T> well, anyway it's in topic already
[02:05] <Tm_T> !sources
[02:05] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:06] <Tm_T> :(
[02:06] <robotgeek> !kde3.5
[02:06] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[02:07] <robotgeek> Tm_T: /msg ubotu listvals factoid_search_string
[02:07] <pablet> thanks, i will try to solve the problem myself because its a strange thing
[02:07] <Tm_T> robotgeek: nah
[02:08] <robotgeek> Tm_T: i just got that from Seveas in #ubuntu
[02:08] <Tm_T> hehe
[02:08] <Tm_T> off ->
[02:09] <ilba7r> hope this is not offtopic. Anyone know if firefox have session management like opera. so i can save and reload a session in firefox
[02:12] <null> Ji
[02:12] <null> Hi
[02:12] <null> how do I install mplayer?
[02:14] <Fusionfox> null: sudo apt-get install mplayer?
[02:14] <Fusionfox> (o_o)
[02:14] <null> E: Couldn't find package mplayer
[02:14] <Fusionfox> have you modified your repositories to active multiverse?
[02:15] <null> wait 2 sec
[02:15] <null> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[02:15] <null>  deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[02:15] <Fusionfox> hhhmmm
[02:15] <null> only this is uncomment in /etc/apt/sources.list..
[02:15] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell null about repos
[02:16] <Fusionfox> you can go to www.ubuntu.com/wiki
[02:16] <Fusionfox> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto?highlight=%28mplayer%29 to be more exact
[02:17] <Daddy_D> I'm planning on putting Flight 2 Kubunut on one the machines, but first I need to know if anyone has any issues or how is stability wise.
[02:17] <Daddy_D> Good to see it comes with 3.5 KDE.
[02:17] <Fusionfox> eehh well =P
[02:17] <Fusionfox> if yo uasking about issues
[02:17] <Fusionfox> =D
[02:18] <Fusionfox> n_n look at my pretty issue
[02:18] <Ilokaasu> does anyone know how can i enable my scsi cdrom ? its not even opening now...nothing is mounted
[02:18] <Fusionfox> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7165 =D
[02:18] <pablet> new sources.list from web page and nothing to be updated....
[02:18] <Daddy_D> lol I will scroll up
[02:19] <Fusionfox> Ilokaasu: i got the same problem =D
[02:19] <pablet> thanks....
[02:19] <pablet> bye!
[02:19] <Fusionfox> Ilokaasu: and havent solve it yet =P so if i get any info ill try to help you
[02:22] <Daddy_D> the screenshots looks very nice.
[02:24] <slewis> is there a kubuntu repository for KDE 3.5? mine all sem to be a lower version number :S
[02:28] <_root_> what kubuntu  server package
[02:29] <JohnFlux> slewis: /topic
[02:31] <Panzerboy> well, i got skype finally installed in kubuntu
[02:32] <Panzerboy> but it doesn't work :(
[02:32] <Panzerboy> i have problems with the sound, apparently, both hearing somebody calling and with the mic
[02:32] <Panzerboy> are there any known issues with this?
[02:34] <weedar> I know skype had issues with usb headsets earlier, but I haven't heard about issues with hearing others as long as sound works for everything else
[02:34] <Panzerboy> hmm
[02:34] <Panzerboy> well
[02:34] <Panzerboy> in skype, in the options, i have /dev/dsp for both calls and ringing devices
[02:35] <Panzerboy> and for ringing it's grayed out
[02:35] <Panzerboy> and for calls it's not, but it's the only option available
[02:35] <Panzerboy> and the sound works, because i can hear both the sound notifications and the last.fm radio
[02:37] <Panzerboy> hmm
[02:37] <Panzerboy> now last.fm doesn't work either
[02:38] <slewis> JohnFlux: Thanks
[02:39] <weedar> seems you're computer is dying the way HAL did in Space Oddysey
[02:40] <weedar> But Panzerboy, you're saying that you can hear when people call but when you answer you can't hear what they're saying?
[02:40] <udomsak> hi all
[02:41] <Panzerboy> weedar: no, i cannot even hear them calling
[02:41] <Panzerboy> hmm ... seems the whole sound system is fucked up
[02:41] <Panzerboy> but why ?
[02:41] <udomsak> I can't use iocharset=utf-8 with FAT mount , What happen ?
[02:41] <weedar> somebody set up us the bomb udomsak (just kidding)
[02:42] <weedar> Panzerboy, are you able to play .ogg or .mp3 files with amarok/xxms/whatever?
[02:42] <Panzerboy> weedar: well, this is a brand new kubuntu installation, so i didn't (yet) install all the needed plugins to be able to play mp3's
[02:42] <udomsak> weedar: yes  I can
[02:42] <Panzerboy> weedar: and ogg's i don't have
[02:43] <Ilokaasu> howto enable scsi cdrom device ?
[02:44] <weedar> Ilokaasu, it should be "enabled" all ready, most likely as /dev/scd0 (or /dev/scd1)
[02:45] <weedar> Panzerboy, well I have a pretty recent install myself. Just FYI I didn't have to do anything special to get sound working. Do you have a weird soundcard possibly? Integrated?
[02:45] <Panzerboy> weedar: I have a laptop
[02:45] <Panzerboy> weedar: so i guess it's integrated :)
[02:45] <Panzerboy> 0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
[02:45] <Panzerboy> good old ac'97
[02:46] <weedar> oh no
[02:46] <Panzerboy> well, yes
[02:46] <weedar> I had an ac97 on this computer, but it died on me constantly, it would stop in the middle of playing mp3s and whatever
[02:46] <Ilokaasu> well weedar, tell me how can i mount my cdrom then...its not even opening now :)
[02:46] <Panzerboy> that's comforting
[02:47] <weedar> So I disabled it  in the BIOS settings and got myself another soundcard, not so easy to do on a laptop though :/
[02:47] <Panzerboy> yeah
[02:47] <weedar> Ilokaasu, I assume there is a CD/DVD in your cdrive at the moment?
[02:48] <Ilokaasu> well there is not cause i cant open it :D
[02:49] <weedar> eject /dev/scd0 should probably do it
[02:49] <weedar> but seeing as you can't open it I'm suspecting it's mounted Ilokaasu
[02:49] <Panzerboy> weedar: well, i've disabled arts and last.fm started working again
[02:49] <Panzerboy> let's see skypte
[02:49] <Panzerboy> errr ... skype, even
[02:49] <Ilokaasu> i havent mounted anything
[02:50] <Ilokaasu> and that command didnt work, neither sr0 or sg0
[02:51] <weedar> Panzerboy, try to have someone call you on skype - see if you can hear the call
[02:51] <weedar> Ilokaasu, did you get an error? Either way, try checking out /etc/fstab and see if there is a line with /dev/scd0 in it
[02:51] <Ilokaasu> no errors, ill check
[02:53] <Ilokaasu> there is only hd partitions and cdrom as hdd
[02:54] <Ilokaasu> weedar:  next :P ?
[02:55] <weedar> Ilokaasu, good question :P
[02:56] <weedar> Ilokaasu, does /dev/scd0 at least exist?
[02:56] <Ilokaasu> yes
[03:08] <weedar> Ilokaasu, adding "/dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0" to /etc/fstab should enable you to mount it. I don't know why you can't eject though :/
[03:08] <Ilokaasu> ok i will try
[03:09] <fox-boy> well, I successfully downloaded the iso and got it to boot to start the install but it said "No ethernet card was detected,..."
[03:09] <fox-boy> it then said something about Firewire ethernet
[03:10] <fox-boy> too bad the install doesn't recognize my laptop's NIC
[03:10] <fox-boy> IBM A21m
[03:10] <fox-boy> anyone know what I can do to get this to work?
[03:10] <weedar> fox-boy, is that a wireless NIC?
[03:10] <fox-boy> weedar: no
[03:11] <weedar> fox-boy, if you know what chipset the NIC uses you can probably just load the module for it yourself after installing kubuntu
[03:12] <weedar> Panzerboy, how are things going with skype?
[03:12] <fox-boy> weedar:  I could research the chip set (versus opening up the laptop to have a look)
[03:13] <fox-boy> weedar:  I'm surprised though.  A friend raves about kubuntu and I was hoping it would work for me
[03:13] <fox-boy> for now, I think i'm going to have to stick with debian
[03:14] <weedar> fox-boy, I'm surprised that debian automagically finds your NIC while kubuntu doesn't seeing as kubuntu is based on debian
[03:15] <udomsak> [4303225.123000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[03:15] <udomsak> [4303225.588000]  Unable to load NLS charset utf-8
[03:15] <udomsak> [4303225.588000]  FAT: IO charset utf-8 not found
[03:15] <udomsak> sorry , What going wrong ?
[03:15] <fox-boy> weedar:  I know and agree.
[03:15] <Panzerboy> weedar: it works now
[03:15] <weedar> Panzerboy, great!
[03:15] <Panzerboy> weedar: it was that arts
[03:15] <Panzerboy> weedar: it seems that arts is the root of all evil regarding sound in kde
[03:16] <weedar> udomsak, how are you mounting the partition?
[03:16] <weedar> udomsak, you might try "utf8" instead of "utf-8" if that is what you were trying
[03:17] <udomsak> weedar: :p
[03:18] <udomsak> thx
[03:18] <udomsak> <<--- Sorry for my stupid
[03:18] <weedar> Maybe in time we will be able to forgive you udomsak
[03:19] <weedar> Ilokaasu, any luck?
[03:24] <fox-boy> quit
[03:31] <weedar> Anyone feel like telling me what's so great about KDE 3.5? :)
[03:34] <JohnFlux> weedar: ksysguard looks a bit nicer
[03:34] <JohnFlux> weedar: and while broken isn't quite so broken
[03:35] <JohnFlux> weedar: http://www.kde.org/announcements/visualguide-3.5.php
[03:35] <weedar> JohnFlux, that last one confused me. It's broken but doesn't look that way or do you mean that when it breaks it does so in a better way? :)
[03:35] <weedar> ah, thanks , I'll check out that link
[03:36] <JohnFlux> weedar: just that it's no so obvious why menu entries are greyed out etc
[03:36] <JohnFlux> weedar: I'm the maintainer btw ;)
[03:36] <JohnFlux> weedar: so i'm allowed to criticise it ;)
[03:36] <weedar> In that case thank you for all your hard work
[03:37] <weedar> and I'll try to avoid criticising it while you're online ;)
[03:37] <mike> When is flight 3 coming out?
[03:38] <mike> I have a feeling that info is not publicly established.
[03:51] <udomsak> (re)
[03:52] <Zouseni> hi
[03:52] <weedar> hello
[03:52] <Zouseni> how can i make a new partition to my hard disk
[03:53] <udomsak> if some application was suddenly terminated (KDE )  , How i find  traceback ?
[03:53] <Zouseni> for use of windows 2000
[03:53] <udomsak> or error log ?
[03:54] <os2mac> Zouseni... usually when you do a dual boot of OS's you install windows first... because it likes to be in the root  partition... where linux doesn't care.
[03:54] <Zouseni> :s
[03:55] <Zouseni> but now i installed linux first
[03:55] <Zouseni> and windows can't format cause it doesnt regocnize linux partition
[03:56] <Blippe> Zouzeni, there is a gnome application for that called gparted, i don't remember a name for a kde counterpart...
[03:56] <weedar> JohnFlux, upgrading to KDE via adept didn't work. In case you'd like to know.. :)
[03:59] <weedar> Or at least, alot of the packages reported being broken
[03:59] <orangey> hey all!
[03:59] <orangey> is there a good KDE equivalent of Gnomemeeting (video conferencing software?)
[03:59] <weedar> Kopete?
[04:00] <orangey> weedar:  for direct (IP-IP) communications? It seems it only works via services like MSN or Yahoo
[04:01] <s_spiff{AWAY}> guys KDE 4 released...previw i mean
[04:02] <weedar> orangey, that's correct, I assumed you were thinking of MSN-like functionality, sorry
[04:02] <Zouseni> back
[04:02] <dutchie> hi chaps ... in KDE I can't seem to find an icon to browse my Windows partition
[04:02] <Zouseni> so where to get that gparted
[04:02] <Zouseni> and do i need to get gnome too somehow o_O
[04:03] <dutchie> what can I do to browse my Windows partition ?
[04:03] <s_spiff{AWAY}> Zouseni, apt-get foe gnome
[04:03] <dutchie> Nautilus displays the HD devices and lets me browse through them ... how to do this using KDE apps ?
[04:03] <s_spiff{AWAY}> dutchie, hav u mounted the partitions?
[04:04] <dutchie> s_spiff{AWAY}: good question, how would I check that ? I seem to remember a setting somewhere about "automounting" HDs and stuff
[04:04] <dutchie> kconfigure ?
[04:05] <dutchie> s_spiff{AWAY}: as I was saying ....
[04:05] <dutchie> good question, how would I check that ? I seem to remember a setting somewhere about "automounting" HDs and stuff
[04:06] <s_spiff{AWAY}> haha... go to the wiki and search for 'Mounting Window's partitions
[04:06] <dutchie> s_spiff{AWAY}: thanks !
[04:06] <s_spiff{AWAY}> you'll get the script for automatically loading them..into the media folder and create links on ur desktop
[04:06] <s_spiff{AWAY}> np man
[04:07] <dutchie> thx !!!
[04:07] <Paradosso> hi everybody
[04:07] <Paradosso> how do I find a .deb package for dekorator 0.2?
[04:12] <dutchie> s_spiff{AWAY}: I found autofs in Synaptic ... I'll give that a shot before I start messing with custom scripts
[04:12] <s_spiff{AWAY}> don't worry i used that script, works absolutely fine..
[04:12] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  so i would suggest just do that script, and then u can delete that script.. np
[04:15] <dutchie> s_spiff{AWAY}: it's not about that ... I'd rather set up standard bits of s/w rather than have to keep track of scripts that I'll forget about 5 minutes after I got them to work. But that's just me
[04:16] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  ok.
[04:20] <dutchie> any idea why kdemultimedia does not have the Ubuntu-compatible icon beside it in Synaptic ?
[04:21] <_ganymed> hallo
[04:24] <Paradosso> "in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[04:24] <Paradosso> " <---------- if compppiling any source I get this, what package am I missing?
[04:27] <_ganymed> if i install on a softraid device (md), so that only /boot is on a normal partition (hda1), but / is on an md device, can i then load the freshly installed system with the kernel and initrd provided, given the fact that all partitions are reiserfs formated?
[04:29] <benlue> juten tag
[04:30] <benlue> wie kommt das wenn ich gcc installiert habe das wenn ich nen Prob installieren mcht das das system sagt gcc ist nicht vorhanden ?
[04:33] <_ganymed> any ideas for my question?
[04:33] <_ganymed> welchen gcc hast du installiert
[04:36] <_ganymed> ?
[04:39] <eriksti> Hey.. I'm running Eclipse (and PHPEclipse) and constantly getting "The connection was refused when attempting to contact localhost."  Any ideas how to fix this?
[04:47] <Gordo27> plz anyone can help me? when i start to install Kubuntu in my PC i have a problem with my keaboard in the first option to chosse the lenguage i dont have Keaboard , what can i do???
[04:49] <Gordo27> plz anyone can help me? when i start to install Kubuntu in my PC i have a problem with my keaboard in the first option to chosse the lenguage i dont have Keaboard , what can i do???
[04:51] <Zouseni> hey peeps
[04:51] <Zouseni> i installed gnome and gparted
[04:51] <Zouseni> how to run gparted now
[04:52] <Blippe> "kdesu gparted" in terminal
[04:52] <Gordo27> plz anyone can help me? when i start to install Kubuntu in my PC i have a problem with my keaboard in the first option to chosse the lenguage i dont have Keaboard , what can i do???
[04:54] <benlue> ./configure --prefix=$(kde-config --prefix)
[04:54] <Zouseni> how to use that
[04:54] <Zouseni> i got locks over ext3, extended and linux-swap
[04:54] <benlue> checking for KDE... configure: error:
[04:54] <benlue> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[04:54] <benlue> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[04:55] <benlue> was hab ich da falsch gemacht ?
[04:55] <asghar> Hi
[04:55] <asghar> I am new to Kubuntu
[04:55] <asghar> Can I ask some questions?
[04:56] <_ganymed> just ask
[04:56] <asghar> So I have used SuSE for a long time but after novells purchase Im looking for an alternative
[04:56] <visik7> asghar: what's wrong with novell ?
[04:57] <asghar> So can anybody give me a clue on how Kubuntu compares to SuSE?
[04:57] <_ganymed> :)
[04:57] <asghar> Well, its not about Novell
[04:57] <_ganymed> bow, that's a question for an irc channel:)
[04:57] <asghar> Its about any major company
[04:57] <asghar> They want to take control of everything
[04:58] <visik7> major company puts money in linux don't be a taliban
[04:58] <asghar> Like the recent XGL debate on slashdot
[04:58] <_ganymed> well, kubuntu is merely ubuntu with kde, and canonical is owned by shuttleworth...
[04:58] <Zouseni> How can I format my hard disk
[04:58] <Zouseni> Totally
[04:58] <glick> something annoying as hell about kubuntu was wondering if anyone knows the fix
[04:58] <glick> once in a while my mouse pointer just teleports the the top right or lower left of the screen
[04:58] <Gordo27> plz anyone can help me? when i start to install Kubuntu in my PC i have a problem with my keaboard in the first option to chosse the lenguage i dont have Keaboard , what can i do???
[04:58] <asghar> They do but it doesnt mean that they own everything
[04:58] <glick> actually quite often
[04:59] <_ganymed> and this men does exactly the same as bill gates... just in a more social stance. the risk still remains...
[04:59] <glick> anyone know why it does this and how to fix it?
[04:59] <tictric> I had this problem once with a logitech mouse and it went away when I chose a different driver
[05:00] <Zouseni> How can I format my hard disk totally? Do I need some kind of application to do that?
[05:00] <asghar> So the problem is Im used to YaST for all the configuration stuff
[05:00] <glick> i have a targus mouse
[05:00] <asghar> Zouseni: you can use GParted
[05:00] <glick> how do i choose a different driver
[05:00] <Zouseni> How do I use that
[05:00] <Zouseni> Because it doesn't let me do anything
[05:00] <Zouseni> Locks over all
[05:00] <asghar> Do you have it installed?
[05:00] <tictric> Zouseni: not only the application but preferably also some knowledge about what's happening when you format a harddrive
[05:00] <Zouseni> Unmounting doesnt work because hard disk is busy
[05:00] <_ganymed> Zouseni: you use cfdisk for partitioning and then mkfs.*filesystem* /dev/*your_device*
[05:01] <visik7> glick: probably you have gpm runnig
[05:01] <glick> visik7, actually i dont have gpm runnin
[05:02] <tictric> Zouseni: browse here http://tldp.org/
[05:02] <visik7> glick: these problems are commonly due to X and gpm running on same device
[05:02] <visik7> asghar: there is yast also for ubuntu if you want ( I don't want, really )  btw to install packages u can use synaptic
[05:02] <visik7> asghar: for config other desktop thing use the kcontrol
[05:03] <Zouseni> when i try to launch cfdisk it throws me a fatal error
[05:03] <glick> any other ideas as to what may be causing it
[05:03] <asghar> What about networking services?
[05:03] <Zouseni> cannot open disk drive
[05:03] <glick> damn it just did it again
[05:03] <visik7> asghar: there is a config module in kcontrol
[05:03] <glick> this is annoying as hell
[05:03] <Gordo27> ANYONE CAN TELLME SOMETHING PLZ!?
[05:03] <tictric> Zouseni: You need to know what you are doing!!!!!
[05:03] <Zouseni> k
[05:03] <Zouseni> but i dont
[05:03] <tictric> read first, partition second
[05:03] <asghar> Zouseni: Why dont you restart the system?
[05:03] <asghar> It will probably help with the lock thing
[05:03] <tictric> at tldp.org you'll find a goot howto
[05:04] <Zouseni> hmm ok then
[05:04] <tictric> s/goot/good/ :)
[05:04] <asghar> One more question
[05:04] <asghar> Does it make any difference if I use Ubuntu and install KDE instead of installing Kubuntu?
[05:05] <asghar> Does it?
[05:05] <xtacocorex> asghar: i don't think it would make a difference at all
[05:06] <asghar> And are the release dates for Ubuntu and Kubuntu the same?
[05:06] <glick> how can i choose a different mouse driver
[05:06] <visik7> asghar: ubuntu and kubuntu is the same distro
[05:06] <glick> cause the teleporting mouse is a huge pain in the ass
[05:06] <xtacocorex> asghar: yes, they get released on the same day, dapper comes out in april
[05:06] <visik7> asghar: the difference is in the installation cd
[05:06] <asghar> Fine
[05:07] <asghar> I really get it now why they say Ububtu is the best community distro ever
[05:07] <visik7> asghar: and the same is true for xubuntu edubuntu and other
[05:07] <asghar> Thanks everyone
[05:07] <xtacocorex> asghar: you're welcome
[05:07] <asghar> quit
[05:07] <asghar> /exit
[05:08] <Zouseni> still locks on
[05:08] <Zouseni> can't format cause linux is using it
[05:09] <Zouseni> how to make a new partition for windows 2k or format hard disk totally
[05:10] <Zouseni> someone said that i need to install windows first and then kubuntu
[05:10] <Zouseni> how to format disk totally
[05:11] <Panzerboy> Zouseni: when you install kubuntu, you have the option to totally erase your hard disk
[05:11] <Zouseni> so i have to burn kubuntu on a cd again?
[05:11] <Panzerboy> well, i guess so
[05:11] <Panzerboy> i don't know whether or not it can be installed otherwise
[05:11] <Zouseni> is there a simpler program that i could use to boot from cdrom
[05:12] <Zouseni> and format disk with it
[05:12] <Panzerboy> ok, maybe i've missed the starting of this discussion, but i don't understand what exactly you want to accomplish
[05:12] <Panzerboy> and what is your situation now
[05:13] <Zouseni> i have kubuntu and i need windows 2k
[05:13] <Panzerboy> oh, then is simple
[05:13] <Panzerboy> sudo fdisk /dev/hda
[05:13] <Panzerboy> then delete all the partitions
[05:13] <bam> where is my mime types settings, anyone?
[05:13] <Panzerboy> it's like a format
[05:13] <Zouseni> oh
[05:13] <Panzerboy> then put your windows disk in the cd-rom, boot and install
[05:15] <Zouseni> do i choose 1 or 2
[05:15] <Zouseni> software that runs on boot time or booting and partition software
[05:16] <Panzerboy> umm
[05:16] <Panzerboy> where to choose 1 or 2?
[05:16] <Zouseni> that fdisk thingie
[05:16] <Zouseni> The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 4865.
[05:16] <Zouseni> and so on
[05:17] <Panzerboy> hmm
[05:18] <Panzerboy> if you want to format the disk, just press d
[05:18] <Panzerboy> or better yet
[05:18] <Zouseni> :d
[05:18] <Panzerboy> press m
[05:18] <Panzerboy> for help
[05:18] <Zouseni> :/
[05:18] <Panzerboy> d then the number of the partition
[05:18] <Panzerboy> p
[05:18] <Panzerboy> p to print the partitions list
[05:18] <Zouseni> oh it wasnt a choose
[05:18] <Panzerboy> so first p
[05:18] <Panzerboy> then d and the number of the partition to delete
[05:19] <Zouseni> how can i exit d :D
[05:19] <Panzerboy> and repeat for all the partitions you want to delete
[05:19] <Panzerboy> with w
[05:20] <glick> i think ill have to reread the k&r book
[05:20] <glick> oops wrong window
[05:20] <Zouseni> so now windows setup should be able to format the disk?
[05:20] <Panzerboy> Zouseni: the disk IS formatted now
[05:20] <Panzerboy> is EMPTY
[05:21] <Zouseni> cool
[05:21] <Zouseni> and still running linux <3
[05:21] <Panzerboy> yeah, until you reboot :)
[05:21] <Panzerboy> reboot now
[05:21] <Zouseni> kk \o
[05:21] <Panzerboy> and no more linux :P
[05:21] <Zouseni> how sad
[05:21] <Puaff> hello all
[05:21] <Panzerboy> yeah
[05:21] <Panzerboy> Puaff: hey
[05:22] <Puaff> what happened with you wifi network?
[05:22] <melonipoika> hi, is someone using nvu here?
[05:22] <Panzerboy> Puaff: it's working now, it was a problem with the dns server
[05:23] <Zouseni> hmm
[05:23] <Panzerboy> Puaff: i've put another dns server and now it works like a charm
[05:23] <Panzerboy> oh well ...
[05:23] <tictric> still linux?
[05:23] <glick> how can i try a different mouse drivers so my mouse stops jumping to the korner of the screen at random times
[05:23] <glick> ?
[05:23] <Puaff> Panzerboy: :)
[05:24] <Panzerboy> tictric: ?
[05:24] <tictric> Panzerboy: I menat Zouseni
[05:24] <Panzerboy> brb
[05:24] <Zouseni> no i'm on my mac
[05:24] <tictric> so it worked?
[05:25] <Zouseni> now it starts windows
[05:25] <Zouseni> going to see in a while if it now recognizes the hard disk :D
[05:25] <tictric> gratulations
[05:25] <Zouseni> :s
[05:25] <Zouseni> loading some unnecessary files still
[05:25] <tictric> that's windows
[05:26] <Zouseni> couldn't get age of empires work so i had to do this :s
[05:26] <tictric> yeah, that's important
[05:26] <Zouseni> yeah
[05:26] <Zouseni> my pc is nothing but for playing age of empires 2 conquerors
[05:26] <gmitchel> im fairly new to linux and i was wondering if anyone knew a place with a good tutorial on hardware config in kubuntu
[05:28] <visik7> there's a bug in kdebase-dev dependancies
[05:28] <Zouseni> omfg
[05:28] <Zouseni> OMFG
[05:28] <Zouseni> it still shows unknown on partitions
[05:28] <Zouseni> now my pc is broken <3
[05:29] <visik7> kdebase-dev create a link named /usr/lib/libksplashthemes.so  that points /usr/lib/libksplashthemes.so.0.0.0 that is in package ksplash but apt-get install kdebase-dev doesn't require ksplash
[05:29] <tictric> Zouseni: just tell the windows installer to use the whole harddisk it will kill everything else there is
[05:30] <tictric> windows is good at that
[05:30] <Zouseni> how
[05:30] <Zouseni> how :D
[05:30] <Zouseni> ok i'll try smth
[05:30] <tictric> Zouseni: some things you must read yourself
[05:30] <Zouseni> :<
[05:31] <armosfighter> I'm new to linux and I was wondering how do I install divx?
[05:32] <Keyseir> I'm having problems installing qt on Ubuntu. Anyone here have experience with qt? (http://pastebin.com/506763)
[05:33] <larsivi> Keyseir: do you need to compile KMuddy?
[05:33] <Zouseni> ok tictric get ready
[05:33] <tictric> Keyseir: there's packages beginning with libqt on ubuntu why compile yourself
[05:34] <tictric> that's some major undertaking
[05:34] <Zouseni> do i set up or repair windows 2k or quit setup
[05:34] <Keyseir> larsivi, yes
[05:34] <Zouseni> ok i set up
[05:35] <Zouseni> now it has some licences, what do i do
[05:35] <larsivi> Keyseir: still, the qt-dev packages are probably present in the repositories?
[05:35] <tictric> Zouseni: that would be a different channel :)
[05:35] <Zouseni> ok i agree
[05:35] <tictric> probably not on freenode
[05:35] <Zouseni> but now what do i do
[05:35] <Keyseir> tictric, I'm trying to install a program called KMuddy from source... I knew that "qt' was required. I didn't know I could install it from anything other then source.
[05:35] <Keyseir> larsivi, I hadn't been aware and am not sure.
[05:35] <larsivi> Just check your synaptic
[05:35] <Zouseni> ticric, it has the choices set up windows on selected item, create partition in unpartitioned space and delete selected partition
[05:36] <larsivi> KDE as a whole is available, so qt must be too
[05:36] <larsivi> I can see KMuddy isn't though
[05:36] <Zouseni> i cant select because those are unknown partitions, and i can't create new partition or delete partitions either
[05:37] <tictric> Zouseni: I don't know what it looks like by heart and I'm not going to install windows alongside with you. so I can't really tell because my answer might be totally wrong because windows calls normal things in a funny way
[05:38] <Puaff> Keyseir: you can do apt-cache search libqt
[05:40] <NevidS> hi!
[05:41] <Zouseni> tictric, what if i burn kubuntu install cd
[05:41] <Zouseni> can you help me then
[05:42] <NevidS> If I would like change the K logo men, where I can found the .png about? Inside at /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/   ??
[05:42] <tictric> Zouseni: What is it that you actually want to accomplish?
[05:42] <Zouseni> i want to format my hard disk in a way that i could setup windows 2k in it
[05:42] <tictric> only w2k or alongside with some other os?
[05:43] <Zouseni> no
[05:43] <Zouseni> its just one hard disk
[05:43] <Zouseni> one os in the beginning
[05:43] <glick> man this mouse problem is really freakin annoying and making the desktop a pain in the ass
[05:43] <tictric> you can have multiple operating systems on one physical harddisk
[05:43] <Zouseni> yes
[05:43] <tictric> you only want w2k?
[05:44] <tictric> what do you want a kubuntu install cd for?
[05:44] <Zouseni> to format
[05:44] <Zouseni> i dont know any else way to format my hard disk
[05:44] <glick> does anyon eknow why the mouse pointer jumps to the corner of the display at random intervals?
[05:44] <tictric> then you ought to burn a live cd
[05:44] <Zouseni> whhyy
[05:45] <NevidS> nobody??
[05:45] <Zouseni> is it possible to format hard disk with kubuntu install cd
[05:45] <tictric> because then you don't need any harddisk. Just a cdrom or dvd drive and enough memory
[05:45] <Zouseni> so that windows recognized it
[05:46] <tictric> you can erase everything from that harddisk so that windows doesn't have to recognize anything
[05:46] <Zouseni> good
[05:46] <tictric> but you cant do that as long as you are running fdisk or cfdisk or whatever from that harddisk you try to partition
[05:47] <Keyseir> Puaff, should I install all that stuff?
[05:47] <Zouseni> =/
[05:47] <Zouseni> i just want to format
[05:47] <tictric> Zouseni: I believe you
[05:47] <Zouseni> yay
[05:48] <Paradosso> my KDE does not remember "special window settings" i specify
[05:48] <Paradosso> on the other hand, kstart seem to work
[05:48] <Paradosso> any hints?
[05:51] <Zouseni> now booting kubuntu setup
[05:52] <Zouseni> "gl hf"
[05:52] <Zouseni> thx
[05:53] <Panzerboy> any idea why do i get connection refused on all the kubuntu repos when i do an apt-get update?
[05:53] <Panzerboy> i tried first to ch.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:53] <Zouseni> hey tictric
[05:53] <Panzerboy> then to archive.ubuntu.com
[05:53] <Panzerboy> same thing
[05:53] <Zouseni> now i'm in the partitioning place
[05:53] <tictric> aha
[05:54] <Zouseni> erase ientire disk and use lvm?
[05:54] <Zouseni> manually edit partition table?
[05:54] <tictric> manually
[05:54] <Zouseni> so it found two partitions
[05:54] <tictric> delete them
[05:54] <Zouseni> #1 primary 39,3gb and #5 logical
[05:54] <Zouseni> how
[05:55] <tictric> first you delete #5
[05:55] <Panzerboy> hmm ... us.archive seems to work
[05:55] <Zouseni> hmm
[05:55] <tictric> Zouseni: hit <alt><F2>
[05:55] <tictric> together
[05:55] <Zouseni> wow
[05:55] <Zouseni> now in console
[05:55] <tictric> i think now its <enter>
[05:56] <Zouseni> yup
[05:56] <tictric> then type fdisk /dev/hda
[05:56] <Zouseni> now it has ~ #
[05:56] <Zouseni> just wait a sec us keyboard :D'
[05:57] <Zouseni> where to find that /
[05:57] <Zouseni> can you tell me the coordinates
[05:57] <tictric> you ask questions
[05:57] <Zouseni> yes i do
[05:57] <tictric> I got a german layout, sorry
[05:58] <Zouseni> ok got it
[05:58] <tictric> i believe its right hand small finger bottom next to shift
[05:58] <Zouseni> now command:
[05:58] <tictric> still ~# fdisk /dev/hda
[05:58] <Zouseni> yea but Command (m for help):
[05:59] <tictric> type p
[05:59] <tictric> type d
[05:59] <Zouseni> it gives me 3 partitions
[05:59] <Zouseni> linux, extended, swap
[05:59] <Zouseni> d all?
[06:00] <Panzerboy> Zouseni is doomed i think ... doomed to run linux for the rest of his/hers life :)
[06:00] <Zouseni> ;<
[06:00] <tictric> I remember that one can only delete one partition at a time
[06:00] <Zouseni> what do i do ;_;
[06:00] <GameOver> everyone... i cant get sound to work on my kubuntu.... i see that it does detect my hardware... anyone can help me?
[06:00] <tictric> so type 3 after d
[06:00] <tictric> then hit d again
[06:00] <tictric> then 2
[06:01] <tictric> and so on
[06:01] <Zouseni> partition 3 has empty type
[06:01] <tictric> just delete it
[06:01] <Panzerboy> GameOver: i've had the same problem, all i did was to disable arts
[06:01] <Panzerboy> GameOver: now sound works like a charm (through alsa)
[06:01] <Zouseni> ok now it doesnt show anything with p
[06:01] <Panzerboy> Zouseni: delete EVERYTHING !!
[06:01] <tictric> type w
[06:01] <GameOver> Panzerboy: can u help me through it... im very new to this
[06:01] <Zouseni> the partition table has been altered!1
[06:02] <tictric> switch it off
[06:02] <Zouseni> syncing disks
[06:02] <tictric> start windows
[06:02] <Zouseni> ok
[06:02] <Panzerboy> GameOver: go to the menu, then System Settings
[06:02] <Panzerboy> GameOver: then to Sound & Multimedia
[06:02] <_johnflux> GameOver man! GameOver!
[06:02] <Zouseni> and now all we can do is hope
[06:02] <GameOver> ok
[06:03] <Panzerboy> GameOver: then disable the checbox for Enable the sound system
[06:03] <Zouseni> it loads the setup
[06:03] <GameOver> done
[06:04] <GameOver> Panzerboy: what do i do next?
[06:05] <Panzerboy> GameOver: it should work now :)
[06:05] <GameOver> panzerboy: do i have to retart?
[06:05] <Panzerboy> i didn't restart it
[06:05] <Panzerboy> however
[06:05] <Panzerboy> you might have other problems
[06:05] <Panzerboy> so ...
[06:05] <GameOver> oh great
[06:05] <GameOver> like what
[06:06] <Panzerboy> what exactly doesn't work
[06:06] <Panzerboy> ?
[06:06] <Zouseni> ok and now the moment of truth
[06:06] <Zouseni> YEY
[06:06] <Zouseni> THX ALL M8S <3e33
[06:06] <Zouseni> fv jk
[06:07] <GameOver> it still doesnt work panzer
[06:07] <GameOver> if i go to kmix there is nothing there
[06:07] <GameOver> as current mixer.. no sound settings, nothin
[06:09] <fallingpoo> woah?
[06:10] <Panzerboy> hmm
[06:10] <Panzerboy> GameOver: lspci ?
[06:10] <Panzerboy> what sound card do you have?
[06:11] <GameOver> rockwell international
[06:11] <GameOver> thats what it said when i typed in lspci
[06:11] <GameOver> followed by uknown device
[06:15] <Zouseni> lol :D
[06:16] <GameOver> Panzerboy: nothing?
[06:16] <Zouseni> why do you always have to use public away
[06:16] <Panzerboy> well, i don't know, sorry
[06:17] <Panzerboy> try alsamixer
[06:17] <Panzerboy> see if it gives you anything
[06:17] <GameOver> how do i do that
[06:19] <Panzerboy> type alsamixer in the cli
[06:19] <GameOver> it says function snd_ctrl_open failed for default: no sucuh file or directory
[06:22] <Panzerboy> wow
[06:22] <Panzerboy> that's something i've never encountered
[06:22] <GameOver> great lol
[06:22] <Panzerboy> try do type dmesg | more
[06:22] <Panzerboy> and see where it says something about the sound card
[06:25] <GameOver> um.... the only thingi can see is the following....
[06:25] <GameOver> pnp ACPI init
[06:25] <GameOver> ugh hold on ill copy and paste. but i gotta do it form the other computer
[06:25] <GameOver> its too much for me to type
[06:25] <Panzerboy> don't paste here!
[06:25] <Panzerboy> use pastebin
[06:25] <Panzerboy> or smth
[06:25] <GameOver> whats that
[06:25] <Panzerboy> see topic
[06:27] <GameOver> iim not gonna pste the whole thing just 2 line
[06:27] <mike>      ACPI-0508: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.PIB_.SIO0.LPT_._CRS]  (Node cffda180), AE_AML_BUFFER_LIMIT
[06:27] <mike> [4294672.398000]      ACPI-0171: *** Error: Method execution failed [\_SB_.PCI0.PIB_.SIO0.LPT_._CRS]  (Node cffda180), AE_AML_BUFFER_LIMIT
[06:27] <mike> [4294672.398000]  pnp: PnPACPI: METHOD_NAME__CRS failure for PNP0400
[06:27] <GameOver> there
[06:28] <GameOver> is that sound related?
[06:28] <mmport81> hi all, i got problems getting sound in with any non-root user - could anyone gimme a place to start loking where the problem could be (i am pretty uptodate using backports (apt repositories don't seem to be working today))
[06:29] <weedar> What to do when a window is to big to fit onscreen making it impossible to click a button on the bottom of the window?
[06:30] <mmport81> weedar, can't u resize the window?
[06:30] <weedar> mmport81, not to the point where I can see the bottom part of the window. The window I'm talking of is the "Network Settings" one in KDE, btw
[06:31] <weedar> I have to click "Administrator Mode" to change anything, but that button is not visible so.. :/
[06:32] <mmport81> have you tried to change the resolution?
[06:32] <GameOver> how do u change resolution?
[06:32] <weedar> mmport81, sure that would help, but I was hoping for a better solution :)
[06:33] <mmport81> k menu > system settings > display
[06:33] <mmport81> weedar, well if you have more pixels to play around with that might be nice too :)
[06:34] <weedar> mmport81, seems I can't change the resolution - 1024x768 seems to be the max I can use
[06:34] <GameOver> mmport81... i dont have anything called display....
[06:34] <Panzerboy> GameOver: it can be, try to disable acpi at boot
[06:34] <Panzerboy> weedar: what i did is to hide the task bar :)
[06:34] <GameOver> Panzerboy: i have no clue how to do that
[06:35] <Panzerboy> weedar: then i was able to press that button (also in the network settings in kde :P)
[06:35] <mmport81> (oh i am using indoensian / german / english for my lang) but it's there in hardware, in system settings
[06:35] <weedar> Panzerboy, I tried that after reading your tip. Unfortunately the button is still not visible :(
[06:35] <GameOver> panzerboy... how do i change the screen resoultion
[06:36] <mmport81> weedar: i just looked at network settings too - i also use 1024x768 res, and can't see anything
[06:36] <Panzerboy> GameOver: go to system settings
[06:37] <GameOver> there
[06:37] <Panzerboy> then to display
[06:37] <GameOver> i hav e nothing called display
[06:37] <Panzerboy> ??
[06:37] <GameOver> i have appearance and themes, desktop, etc
[06:37] <GameOver> no display
[06:37] <Panzerboy> second row, under hardware ?
[06:37] <Panzerboy> umm
[06:37] <Panzerboy> i guess you've started kcontrol
[06:37] <Panzerboy> go to the menu
[06:37] <Panzerboy> and choose System Settings
[06:37] <GameOver> dont have hardware eithier
[06:38] <GameOver> oooo
[06:38] <Panzerboy> the first option above Settings
[06:38] <GameOver> wait i was using the other settings
[06:38] <Panzerboy> yeah :)
[06:38] <GameOver> ok
[06:38] <GameOver> how come my max is 1024 by 768
[06:38] <vircuser> help i just loaded kubuntu live cd and my internet isn't wking. I had ubuntu on and same prob. i thought maybe kubuntu will load better.
[06:38] <Panzerboy> weedar: i don't know why, but now i can see the network settings correctly
[06:38] <mmport81> weedar, try opening the kcontrol program...
[06:38] <GameOver> i want to make it 1280
[06:39] <vircuser> hello mmport 81
[06:39] <Panzerboy> GameOver: well, that might be tricky, i guess you must modify the config file
[06:39] <Panzerboy> for the x server
[06:39] <Panzerboy> i don't know of any other way to do it
[06:39] <weedar> thanks mmport81
[06:39] <mmport81> weedar, (same as settings, but i can see system mode etc etc)
[06:39] <weedar> that did the trick!
[06:39] <GameOver> can u tell me how to access it
[06:39] <mmport81> :)
[06:39] <Panzerboy> wait a sec
[06:39] <mmport81> hi vircuser
[06:39] <GameOver> k
[06:40] <weedar> I hope JohnFlux is aware of this :)
[06:40] <Panzerboy> GameOver: it's in /etc/X11
[06:40] <Panzerboy> the name is xorg.conf
[06:40] <mmport81> GameOver, alt-f2 then type kcontrol
[06:40] <mmport81> GameOver (prob got my wires crossed...)
[06:41] <GameOver> ok
[06:42] <vircuser> mmport81 i'm running kubuntu  live because i had porb with ubuntu in my kinfor center under networks it shw loopback status up but i can't surf. i have a sbc home portal where 2 of 3 comp surf using a hpna (usb adapter plug  into phoneline) what's wrong. i see ip address, netwo mask all good but can't connect.
[06:43] <weedar> Is /etc/init.d/networking the script that runs during boot-up that says "Configuring Network Interfaces"?
[06:43] <mmport81> the "hpna" is connected to your comp by usb? - or by ethernet cable?
[06:44] <vircuser> usb
[06:46] <doug> man they are on a roll with KDE
[06:46] <vircuser> mmport81 i have a modem/router 2wire (external). i have 2 comp. 1 ethernet the other is a usb adapter looks like a  phone line filter run xp.  i get the dsl on my reg phone line with the adapter well i installed ubuntu and kubuntu and same prob. i can't surf
[06:46] <doug> i'm having fun with eye candy such as akregator, konqueror and even konversation
[06:47] <doug> i gotta say, i'm tempted to switch from firefox to konq
[06:47] <pulsar> Hello!
[06:47] <mmport81>  vircuser: type in lsusb in konsole
[06:48] <pulsar> I've got a question about my "hostname".
[06:48] <vircuser> mmport81 i'll run to other run and (kubuntu comp) and type it and tell you what happend
[06:48] <mmport81> ok
[06:48] <mmport81> that's "ell"susb
[06:49] <mmport81> not i or anything btw...
[06:51] <mmport81> douglas: i much prefer konq to firefox - maybe i am just more used to it now - check out the spell check in konq tho - v nice...
[06:53] <pulsar> Can anyone help me? What should I set my hostname to on my notebook, having in mind, that I'd like to use postfix to fetch mail and deliver it to my account and also accepting local mail relaying to a smarthost?
[06:54] <Panzerboy> pulsar: i like for example a hostname like 'mordor'
[06:54] <Panzerboy> pulsar: or 'shaddowofthedeath
[06:55] <mmport81> heheh
[06:55] <Panzerboy> or smth along that line
[06:55] <mmport81> i normal have bond girl names :)
[06:55] <Panzerboy> heh
[06:55] <Panzerboy> i had once a 'cassianna'
[06:55] <Panzerboy> hostname, that is
[06:55] <Panzerboy> unfortunatelly, ONLY a hostname
[06:56] <pulsar> What about domains? :)
[06:56] <Panzerboy> well, i don't have any domains yet, so no pointers there
[06:56] <mmport81> vircuser: i will be back in an hour or so, lsusb will tell you what kind of device you have attached, which you can use to find how to get working in linux...
[06:56] <pulsar> Should I use my "own" domain (which is hosted at some provider?)
[06:56] <Panzerboy> ExtremeCrueltyToSmallAnimals.com sounds cool though
[06:56] <vircuser> mmport81 bus 004 device 003: id 058f:6362  alcor micro corp hi speed `16 in `1 flash card reader / writer
[06:57] <vircuser> i don't see the network interface
[06:57] <mmport81> is that all that comes up?
[06:57] <GameOver> ok im edited it...... and erstarting....
[06:57] <GameOver> i shoudl now see it when i look in display as an option?
[06:57] <Snake__> !seen _nano_
[06:57] <ubotu> _nano_ <n=nano@ip70-162-104-171.ph.ph.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu, 13d 9h 55m 56s ago, saying: 'ok what's rc5.d and rc2.d lol'.
[06:57] <vircuser> xirlink webcam
[06:57] <mmport81> cos, i would expect some infor about your "hpnp" device
[06:57] <vircuser> lexmar
[06:57] <vircuser> no not that how can i load it
[06:58] <neoncode> What program can play MP4 files? I know I can play them because i get a preview of said MP4 file in konqueror
[06:58] <vircuser> mmport81 it shows it as a loopback with ip address and newmask  address what's wrong?
[06:59] <Panzerboy> vircuser: it should not show it as loopback, imho
[06:59] <Panzerboy> neoncode: amarok ?
[06:59] <vircuser> mmport81 i meant netmask ... oooops
[06:59] <mmport81> mmport81: any number of things could be wrong...
[07:00] <neoncode> Panzerboy: nope
[07:00] <mmport81> anyway gtg...
[07:00] <vircuser> thanks
[07:00] <Panzerboy> hmm ... i remember somebody saying something yesterday in this channel about mp4 playback ... but i don't remember who or what
[07:01] <vircuser> anybody know how to get kubuntu to recogn my usb adapter for hpna
[07:04] <GameOver> hey does anyone know how to get rid of the black bars/frame in mplayer..... because when u do fullscreen the video doesnt get bigger just the frame does
[07:05] <Panzerboy> GameOver: try to play through xv
[07:05] <GameOver> xv?
[07:05] <Panzerboy> GameOver: that means mplayer -vo xv <movie.avi?
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[07:06] <GameOver> so i have to play through the terminal?
[07:06] <NeuralSlice> hey, I'm having a problem configuring my Wifi in Kubuntu. When I type iwconfig, the card is there...but I can't get it to connect to my network. I got it to connect in Ubuntu, but I would like to use Kubuntu.
[07:06] <GameOver> no way i can edit settings or anything?
[07:06] <Panzerboy> vircuser: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24695, maybe it helps
[07:07] <Panzerboy> GameOver: you can edit ~/.mplayer/config
[07:07] <GameOver> and do u know what i can edit to fix it?
[07:07] <Panzerboy> GameOver: see http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/506973
[07:08] <Panzerboy> that's my config file for mplayer
[07:08] <GameOver> and this gives u fullscreen
[07:08] <GameOver> with the video
[07:09] <_johnflux> GameOver: if you edit /etc/mplayer/config  or ~/mplayer/config   it should be obvious where to add the vo=vx  or -vo xv
[07:10] <en1gma> what are the system requirements for ubuntu and kububtu as far as ram goes when using the live cds
[07:10] <_johnflux> s/vx/xv/
[07:12] <NeuralSlice> Does anyone know why in the Ubuntu LiveCD, my Wifi works as expected, but when I try and configure WIfi on the Kubuntu LiveCD, it doesn't work? (iwconfig recognizes the card in both setups)
[07:13] <GameOver> alright ill give it a shot.... hey PANZERBOY.... i still dont see the screen size 1280x1024 in display
[07:13] <GameOver> i added it in the config file u told me to
[07:15] <nlindblad> hello
[07:21] <Snake__> en1gma, you still here?
[07:35] <simlu> hi!
[07:36] <simlu> I need some help with swat/samba...
[07:36] <simlu> can anyone help me?
[07:38] <__StarScream> simlu: ask the question and we may
[07:38] <__StarScream> we don't know if we can help till we hear the question
[07:38] <`Nomad> no sigh-kicks hear
[07:38] <`Nomad> :P
[07:43] <simlu> the question is: how to configure my box to connect to swat on localhost:901
[07:44] <simlu> I think everything is properly configured in /etc/services and /etc/inetd.conf
[07:44] <simlu> inetd is running, and still it doesn't connect when I try in my browser
[07:46] <Distro^Junkie> how stable is dapper ?
[07:46] <Distro^Junkie> lol apache you here too ?
[07:46] <apachelogger> Distro^Junkie: of course
[07:47] <Distro^Junkie> ok well then already got my answer
[07:47] <Distro^Junkie> 33 minutes left to download dapper
[07:47] <Distro^Junkie> bbiab
[07:48] <GameOver> is anyone good at configuring sound.... it seems that my hardware is found but wen u go into kmix... there are no devices or anything: i believe its treated as an unkown device
[07:50] <glick> hey when i plug in a firewire drive kubuntu sees it but doesnt give me permission to write to it?
[07:50] <simlu> gameover - do a cat /proc/asound/cards
[07:51] <glick> it makes a desktop icon and all
[07:51] <glick> but it doesnt give me write access?
[07:51] <glick> wtf is that all about?
[07:51] <GameOver> simlu - ok let me boot up the other pc and check it out
[07:52] <GameOver> simlu - now i type that into terminal?
[07:52] <simlu>      /msg nickserv set hide email on
[07:52] <simlu> err
[07:53] <simlu> gameover - yes
[07:53] <GameOver> ok one sec :)
[07:53] <glick> what the hell?
[07:53] <glick> does anyone know how it gets the permission and ownership of the user that mounts the device
[07:54] <Blippe> kdesu or sudo
[07:54] <GameOver> Simlu - no such file or directory
[07:55] <glick> ?
[07:55] <simlu> gameover - ok, so it means that your card hasn't been detected by the alsa driver
[07:55] <GameOver> simlu - ok... so then what can i do
[07:56] <simlu> gameover - do you know what soundcard you have?
[07:57] <GameOver> simlu - i believe its by rockwell international
[07:58] <simlu> gameover - ok, let me check something
[07:58] <GameOver> simlu - thats what i saw when i type in lspci
[07:58] <glick> my firewire drive works perfectly on the ubuntu desktop
[07:58] <GameOver> simlu - ok thanks
[07:58] <glick> stands to reason it should work perfectly in kde too no?
[07:59] <jariep1___> how do I execute the B.U.M. Boot Up Manager from a shell?
[07:59] <jariep1___> it freezes up on me everytime i execute it
[08:01] <glick> no one has that problem with firewire?
[08:07] <sweet_kate> helo
[08:07] <sweet_kate> hello
[08:08] <sweet_kate> how can i see my installed packages in order of size?
[08:10] <sweet_kate> how can i see my installed packages in order of size?
[08:12] <simlu> gameover?
[08:12] <_drgnmyst> Im no expert but in the synaptic package manager you can add columns and then sort the packages by those colums
[08:13] <GameOver> simlu - yes
[08:13] <GameOver> sorry it wont let me type back to u
[08:13] <_drgnmyst> sweet_kate: two of those columns are 'installed version' and 'installed size'
[08:13] <simlu> gameover - ok
[08:14] <GameOver> simlu - so how can i get this to work... im a newb when it comes to this... so all your help is appreciated
[08:15] <sweet_kate> _drgnmyst: i ve not that column
[08:15] <sweet_kate> !
[08:15] <ubotu> sweet_kate: What?
[08:16] <simlu> gameover - you're using kubuntu I guess? :)
[08:17] <GameOver> simlu - yes
[08:18] <simlu> gameover - can you type uname -r in your console and tell me the output
[08:19] <Ilokaasu> weedar: u there ?
[08:20] <tmircea> u>u>u>
[08:20] <GameOver> simlu - 2.6.12-10-386
[08:22] <GameOver> simlu - ok
[08:23] <GameOver> simlu - ok
[08:25] <simlu> gameover - okay, start adept and download linux-source-2.6.12
[08:26] <GameOver> simlu - ok one sec
[08:27] <GameOver> simlu - ok downloading.. now what does this do
[08:28] <_drgnmyst> sweet_kate at the top do you see settings?
[08:28] <sweet_kate> yes
[08:28] <sweet_kate> i solved
[08:28] <sweet_kate> tnx
[08:28] <_drgnmyst> ok,, np i was afk doing dishes
[08:29] <sweet_kate> how can i unistall ooo? selecting one package
[08:29] <sweet_kate> ?
[08:30] <GameOver> simlu?
[08:31] <GameOver> simlu - its still downloading
[08:33] <GameOver> simlu - when its done, where should i uncompress it to?
[08:33] <GameOver> simlu - and doesnt adept do that for u?
[08:34] <simlu> gameover - no, adept will only put it in /usr/src
[08:34] <GameOver> simlu ok
[08:36] <simlu> gameover - do you have an msn account or something?
[08:38] <GameOver> simlu i have yahoo and aim
[08:39] <GameOver> i think imight have an msn account too
[08:39] <simlu> gameover - tha's okay with yahoo
[08:49] <hacktarus> hi
[08:49] <hacktarus> i have one question please
[08:49] <hacktarus> how can i do , for install Mplayer
[08:50] <hacktarus> in Kubuntu, i download Redhat Package Or other??!!
[08:50] <hacktarus> thanx
[08:51] <Blippe> hacktarus, download the mplayer found in synaptic
[08:51] <Blippe> !synaptic
[08:51] <ubotu> somebody said synaptic was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[08:51] <larsivi> hacktarus: or adept
[08:51] <larsivi> !adept
[08:51] <ubotu> Adept (successor of Kapture) is a package manager for Kubuntu. See http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html
[08:51] <Blippe> damit, wrong channel!
[08:52] <hacktarus> ok
[08:52] <Blippe> hacktarus, scrap my previos statement! Download mplayer with adept!
[08:52] <hacktarus> i try
[08:52] <hacktarus> thanx
[08:53] <mehmet> is tehere anybody having 64 bit amd processor and x550 ati radeon graphic card and succeed in installing grap. car driver
[08:54] <Blippe> will kubuntu have a instller like the ubuntu "add application" in dapper?
[08:54] <tictric> sorry, got nvidia
[08:55] <mehmet> else
[08:57] <knoppix> hi guys.. i made a mess..
[08:57] <knoppix> i was trying to install windows on a USB2 HD, and at the reboot two things happens now: window give me blue screen after rebooting and MBR have been flashed by windows..
[08:58] <knoppix> i tried to use grub-install /dev/hda but it's not working :(
[08:58] <_mike> hey how can i manually delete/remove files from theterminal that are read only
[08:58] <knoppix> any idea of why? i am executing it from knoppix
[08:58] <knoppix> sudo before rm
[08:59] <_mike> so its sudo rm filename
[08:59] <knoppix> yes
[09:00] <knoppix> can anyone help me please!! this is a crisis!!
[09:00] <Nard> sure it is
[09:00] <knoppix> :(
[09:00] <knoppix> any idea why grub-install /dev/hda tells me Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[09:00] <gmitchel> can i get some help with ndiswrapper?
[09:01] <knoppix> ??
[09:01] <knoppix> helP!
[09:01] <gmitchel> ndiswrapper -l shows my drivers are on there... lsmod shows ndiswrapper is loaded, but iwconfig and ifconfig don't show wlan0
[09:01] <mullen> ???
[09:02] <_mike> it wontletme delete the directory knoppix
[09:04] <knoppix> _mike, i think that is because that is a directory created by the cdrom of knoppix, you can't delete a cdrom with "rm" :)
[09:04] <simlu> gmitchel - check if prism54 is loaded (lsmod
[09:04] <simlu> lsmod | grep prism
[09:05] <knoppix> please........ :( help me :(
[09:05] <_mike> knoppix - so how do i get rid of it...its my ndiswrapper directory
[09:05] <P3L|C4N0> hi people
[09:05] <tvo> knoppix: you using sata or ide? for sata it might be /dev/sda
[09:05] <tvo> knoppix: also, maybe you need grubs numbering of harddisks (hd0 hd1 etc.)
[09:06] <knoppix> ide..
[09:06] <knoppix> let me try to use grubs numbering.. maybe it will work
[09:06] <tvo> and make sure it's a root terminal
[09:07] <knoppix> i execute it with sudo
[09:07] <tvo> should work too
[09:07] <gmitchel> everytime i cllick the admin mode button and put in my passowrd, it won't open up admin mode
[09:07] <gmitchel> any ideas?
[09:07] <_mike> knoppix: how can i get rid of the directory?
[09:07] <knoppix> reboot.. sometimes it happens
[09:08] <knoppix> mhh.. i don't really know what are you doing.. why do you have that knoppix directory?
[09:08] <knoppix> to remove a directory you have to use rmdir (empty dir) or rm -r DIRNAME
[09:08] <simlu> gmitchel - do a sudo kcontrol instead
[09:08] <gmitchel> ok
[09:08] <knoppix> gmitchel, more than sometimes :)
[09:09] <knoppix> or better, not reboot, restart KDE
[09:09] <knoppix> ctrl - alt - backspac
[09:09] <gmitchel> ndiswrapper is absolutely killin me here
[09:09] <_mike> thanks
[09:09] <simlu> gmitchel - did you try what I told you?
[09:10] <gmitchel> didn't see prism54
[09:10] <gmitchel> can i do modprobe prism54?
[09:11] <simlu> gmitchel - no
[09:11] <GameOver> simlu: what happened
[09:12] <simlu> gameover - I don't know, are you still on yahoo?
[09:12] <GameOver> yeah
[09:12] <GameOver> i saw u were typing and that was the end of it
[09:12] <simlu> gmitchel - ndiswrapper doesn't work really well with prism54
[09:12] <gmitchel> simlu - so if prism54 doesn't load, im good?
[09:13] <simlu> gmitchel - yes, it is supposed to work
[09:13] <simlu> gmitchel - iwlist wlan0 scan doesn't work?
[09:14] <simlu> maybe try to rmmod ndiswrapper, and modprobe it again
[09:14] <gmitchel> simlu- "interface doesn't support scanning"
[09:15] <GameOver> simlu you gonna go back on yahoo?
[09:15] <simlu> gameover - i'm talking to you on yahoo
[09:15] <GameOver> simlu - i dont see u
[09:16] <gmitchel> simlu - didn't work... still not showinf wlan0
[09:17] <simlu> hmm
[09:17] <simlu> gmitchel - are you sure your card is plugged in? :)
[09:19] <gmitchel> simlu - works in my windows boot
[09:20] <simlu> and when you do ndiswrapper -l, it says driver present, hardware present?
[09:22] <gmitchel> simlu - bamwl5 driver rpesent, hardware present
[09:25] <Andreas_> hi guys, I just installed kubuntu dapper on my stationary - everything seems to work fin except the resolution which is stuck on 649x480 - kdm and kde starts with it and kde won't let me change it
[09:25] <Andreas_> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg detects the available modes just fine
[09:25] <Andreas_> and they are all available in the xorg.conf file
[09:25] <Andreas_> where should I start?
[09:25] <m_tadeu> hi...how do I change the font size when running applications as root
[09:26] <gmitchel> simlu - how do i check version number of ndiswrapper?
[09:26] <tictric> dpkg -l ndiswrapper
[09:26] <Ilokaasu> my cdrom does not open, eject wont help..any ideas ?
[09:26] <kethinov> hi all, i've been trying to install redhat-artwork various ways. through apt, by alien'ing the rpm from fedora.redhat.com, and other ways. every time i try, the QT portion of the install silently fails--the bluecurve style doesn't show up in kcontrol. no errors... what's wrong?
[09:28] <_mehmet> oo
[09:28] <m_tadeu> Ilokaasu: umount /media/cdrom
[09:29] <GameOver> hey guys i have an issue with my wireless.... i can always get it to work... i have ndiswrapper installed and have it to run at boot.... but in order to get it tow or  k
[09:30] <GameOver> i always have to go into the terminal and use dhclient
[09:30] <GameOver> is there anyway i can just get tjhis to work from the get go
[09:31] <m_tadeu> how do I change the font size for applications running with sudo?
[09:31] <larsivi> GameOver: You probably have to add/change something in /etc/network/interfaces
[09:32] <GameOver> larsivi: do u know what... i added ndiswrapper
[09:32] <GameOver> as stated
[09:33] <darkkish_box> hey
[09:33] <larsivi> GameOver: Do you have a lan adapter on eth0 as your primary interface?
[09:33] <darkkish_box> can someone help me
[09:33] <larsivi> possibly, darkkish_box
[09:33] <GameOver> larsivi: i have one... but i dont know if its the primary
[09:33] <darkkish_box> all i need is a win98 bootdisk so i can fdisk the mbr and get grub off my computer so i can boot to windows
[09:34] <darkkish_box> >.<
[09:34] <larsivi> darkkish_box: grub can boot windows
[09:34] <darkkish_box> i get an error when i try to start up
[09:34] <darkkish_box> error 15 or something like that
[09:34] <larsivi> GameOver: is both eth0 and eth1 (or wlan0) set up in your interfaces file?
[09:35] <darkkish_box> ewwwwww >.< i could never get wifi working in linux
[09:35] <darkkish_box> ever
[09:35] <GameOver>  The primary network interface
[09:35] <GameOver> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[09:35] <GameOver> 	# wireless-* options are implemented by the wireless-tools package
[09:35] <GameOver> 	wireless-mode managed
[09:35] <GameOver> thats whats in the interface file
[09:35] <larsivi> I use almost only wifi
[09:35] <GameOver> for primary
[09:36] <darkkish_box> larsivi, my grub is broken when i formatted my linux partition now i cant boot to windows i really need to know how to fdisk the mbr
[09:36] <darkkish_box> is there a way to do it in knoppix?
[09:36] <larsivi> probably, knoppix is great :=)
[09:36] <darkkish_box> do you know how?
[09:36] <larsivi> nope
[09:36] <darkkish_box> >.<
[09:37] <larsivi> My grub works fine, (and for Windows too)
[09:37] <darkkish_box> yeah but you didnt format your linux partition
[09:37] <darkkish_box> did you
[09:37] <Distro^Junkie> darkkish_box: take your xp cd put it in your bootable drive then let it load till it gives you the options then hit #2
[09:37] <GameOver> larsivi: so how would i go around fixing this so my wlan0 works without me having to type dhclient all the time
[09:37] <larsivi> hmm, no, I thought better of it ;)
[09:37] <darkkish_box> i dont know where my XP cd is :-/
[09:37] <Distro^Junkie> lol you outta luck then
[09:38] <larsivi> GameOver: I'm not really sure, I have to use dhclient if I use my ethernet plug
[09:38] <darkkish_box> where can i get a windows 98 startup disk
[09:38] <larsivi> GameOver: since wlan is my primary
[09:38] <en1gma> hi all i got a couple questions. i have been using DSL as my live cd distro for quite sometime...i just tried slax and its good but i have to adj to many settings after boot. im thinking bout getting kubuntu or knoppix next. what i like to know is when either of those are booted are you default root and how is konq setup
[09:38] <Distro^Junkie> doesn't work the same darkkish_box
[09:38] <GameOver> larsivi: so if i change the text to wlan0 from eth0 it should work?
[09:38] <larsivi> darkkish_box: win98 startup disks aren't the most usual tool around here ;)
[09:38] <darkkish_box> distro i have donw it before
[09:38] <en1gma> i would like to be able to go straight into xchat without creating a new user
[09:39] <darkkish_box> i did it before it should work..
[09:39] <darkkish_box> i hate xchat
[09:39] <darkkish_box> if i didnt have to use it right now i wouldnt
[09:39] <en1gma> that wasnt my Q
[09:39] <darkkish_box> lol
[09:39] <darkkish_box> sorry
[09:39] <en1gma> :)
[09:39] <larsivi> GameOver: you need to make sure all parties know the name of the interface, if ndiswrapper thinks it is wlan0, then interfaces must too
[09:40] <en1gma> when i get to desktop i dont want to have to configure alot of settings...i can handle a couple but not more then that
[09:40] <GameOver> but there are lines in the interfaces referencing wlan0
[09:40] <en1gma> so when kubuntu boots up to kde are you root or user
[09:41] <GameOver> user
[09:41] <en1gma> sweet
[09:41] <Distro^Junkie> darkkish_box:
[09:41] <Distro^Junkie> brb
[09:41] <en1gma> what kernel and what version of kde is now on the kubuntu iso live cd i dload
[09:42] <larsivi> GameOver: run "dmesg | grep 'eth0'" to find out what sets to eth0
[09:42] <en1gma> does kubuntu have an apt-get or similar
[09:42] <larsivi> GameOver: on my system this is the ethernetcard
[09:43] <larsivi> en1gma: yes
[09:43] <en1gma> kernel, kde and apt-get....whats up with that
[09:43] <Distro^Junkie> darkkish_box: how do you use a 98 boot disk to repair the mbr on xp ?
[09:43] <larsivi> en1gma: and the frontend is called adept
[09:43] <larsivi> !adept
[09:43] <ubotu> Adept (successor of Kapture) is a package manager for Kubuntu. See http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html
[09:43] <darkkish_box> you boot to dos
[09:43] <darkkish_box> and use fdisk /mbr
[09:43] <GameOver> [4294677.765000]  e100: eth0: e100_probe: addr 0xd0204000, irq 11, MAC addr 00:06:1B:CA:C3:58
[09:43] <GameOver> [4294716.293000]  eth0: New link status: Connected (0001)
[09:43] <GameOver> [4294737.093000]  eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[09:43] <en1gma> larsivi ok what about the iso what kernel and what version of kde
[09:44] <Distro^Junkie> what filesystem was your xp in ?
[09:44] <GameOver> thats what it says larsivi
[09:44] <larsivi> en1gma: I think the kernel is about 2.6.12-10
[09:44] <en1gma> and kde 3.5?
[09:44] <larsivi> en1gma: I think you must update to get 3.5, Breezy was released just before KDE 3.5
[09:45] <darkkish_box> it doesnt matter
[09:45] <larsivi> en1gma: Maybe there are Dapper Flight live cd's though
[09:45] <darkkish_box> but ntfs
[09:45] <darkkish_box> fuck
[09:45] <darkkish_box> i dont have  a working floppy drive
[09:45] <darkkish_box> >.< im getting really annoyyed
[09:45] <darkkish_box> im running linux on this one so i cant use the exe
[09:46] <en1gma> yea i think i gonna grab a dapper if it comes with kde 3.5
[09:46] <larsivi> GameOver: then that means that your system tries to find and ip-adress for eth0, instead of your wlan0
[09:46] <en1gma> is dapper cds like "current"
[09:46] <GameOver> larsivi: ok... so what do i do to fix this :)
[09:46] <Distro^Junkie> en1gma: it does
[09:46] <larsivi> GameOver: hmm, my interfaces look like this
[09:47] <larsivi> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[09:47] <larsivi>         wireless-mode managed
[09:48] <larsivi>         wireless-essid SSID
[09:48] <en1gma> where is dapper iso
[09:48] <en1gma> im at kubuntu.org
[09:48] <larsivi> Read more
[09:49] <GameOver> should i just edit the eth1 to wlan0?
[09:49] <larsivi> GameOver: If your system otherwise is equal to mine, yes (and your ndiswrapper sets up wlan0)
[09:49] <GameOver> yes
[09:49] <GameOver> ok i will give it a try
[09:49] <larsivi> GameOver: At least I think so, I'm not expert
[09:50] <en1gma> it takes along time for dapper to load and its text only?
[09:50] <larsivi> en1gma: ?
[09:50] <en1gma> This system should ultimately end up
[09:50] <en1gma> being faster and more visually pleasing than the one in Ubuntu 5.10, but
[09:50] <en1gma> at the moment it's text-only, spews a lot of error messages, and
[09:50] <en1gma> includes long delays with no progress
[09:50] <GameOver> i have another question... when i setup kubuntu... for screen resolution i accidently pressed enter instead of space so that it would include 1280x1024 resolution.... now my highest resolution in display is 1024*whatever
[09:51] <GameOver> what can i do to get that 1280x1024 resolution
[09:51] <en1gma> http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-December/060506.html
[09:51] <darkkish_box> lcd
[09:52] <larsivi> GameOver: I have no idea, I have 1280x1024, but my screen supports 1400x1050, but those silly Intel folks only give access to the mode through their Windows drivers
[09:52] <GameOver> alright... and my final question on my brothers computer... i cant get the sound to work
[09:52] <GameOver> it sees that theres somethin there... but its an unknown device
[09:55] <newbie_> gameover in order to get the resolution for your monitor two 1280x1024 you must change the setting in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[09:55] <GameOver> newbie: what setting do i change
[09:56] <en1gma> where do i get flight cd2
[09:57] <Distro^Junkie> kubuntu.org
[09:58] <Distro^Junkie> read the page starting at the first news
[09:59] <GameOver> newbie?
[09:59] <Distro^Junkie> http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2005-December/000034.html   <---- dapper
[10:00] <en1gma> thnx
[10:02] <tdmg> hey, someone know about keyboard settings that could help me?
[10:04] <Andreas_> tdmg what's the problem
[10:05] <tdmg> well
[10:06] <tdmg> I want to turn my "`~" key into an extra shift key
[10:06] <tdmg> how do I do that?
[10:07] <tdmg> I'm looking through the Keyboard Layout section
[10:07] <tdmg> but I can't find it
[10:07] <tdmg> Andreas_?
[10:08] <GameOver> anyone think they can help me with sound problems?
[10:08] <Andreas_> tdmg, no clue, sorry
[10:08] <tdmg> okay
[10:08] <tdmg> thanks anyway :)
[10:09] <larsivi> GameOver: no, I've given enough for now ;)
[10:09] <GameOver> lol
[10:09] <GameOver> oh come on larsivi :)
[10:09] <tdmg> larsivi, can you help me? :)
[10:09] <GameOver> dont make me go back to windows!
[10:09] <larsivi> GameOver: seriously, what's the problem?
[10:10] <tdmg> we aren't making you do anything :P
[10:10] <GameOver> well like i said sound doesnt work... no devices or loadedinto kmix, nothin
[10:10] <larsivi> tdmg: I know next to nothing on keyboard setup
[10:10] <GameOver> but i do a listing of pci devices... i see my soundcard there... but its listed as an uknown device
[10:10] <tdmg> okay
[10:10] <MrJangles> hey, does anyone use any anti virus software for ubuntu?
[10:10] <larsivi> GameOver: what soundcard do you have?
[10:11] <larsivi> MrJangles: AV? must be Clam, then
[10:11] <GameOver> Larsivi: Rockwell international.... i believe
[10:11] <MrJangles> Clam is the software?
[10:11] <isodude> Hey
[10:11] <larsivi> GameOver: are any sound modules loaded at boot?
[10:12] <GameOver> larsivi: no clue my friend... complete newb here
[10:12] <larsivi> MrJangles: ClamAV, but I'm not sure how to use it
[10:12] <MrJangles> ty thats fine
[10:12] <isodude> If I want a application to read text in english audio that is free. What should I search for?
[10:12] <slow-motion> hallo
[10:13] <larsivi> isodude: There is some KDE app, don't remember the name
[10:14] <tdmg> guys, I'm trying to input the Shift command, what is the command name for SHIFT?
[10:14] <larsivi> GameOver: try the command lsmod and see if you see anything sound related (I know the names can be cryptic...)
[10:14] <GameOver> ok
[10:14] <larsivi> GameOver: They usually start with snd_
[10:15] <GameOver> ok ill check it out
[10:16] <GameOver> larsivi: i dont see anything
[10:16] <larsivi> GameOver: anything at all, or just not snd_ stuff?
[10:17] <GameOver> larsivi not snd_stuff
[10:17] <larsivi> GameOver: you might have a seriously unstandard soundcard, then...
[10:18] <en1gma> kubuntu comes with xchat right
[10:18] <GameOver> larsivi: probably
[10:18] <GameOver> larsivi: its one that came in my hp pavilion
[10:18] <isodude> larsivi: remember!!
[10:18] <isodude> right now!!
[10:21] <larsivi> isodude: check out ksayit, kmouth and konq-speaker (read the about using adept)
[10:21] <wotnarg> Is there a way to select only a certain type of file in konq?
[10:21] <GameOver> larsivi: so what can i do to get it working then?
[10:23] <isodude> larsivi: I will! Thanks!!
[10:23] <isodude> You are super!
[10:24] <glick> hello all
[10:24] <glick> excuse me i just installed kubuntu but my firewire drive still wont mount correctly when i plug it in
[10:24] <glick> does anyone have any idea how i can get my firewire drive to automount correctly when i plug it in?
[10:24] <glick> it used to work perfectly in ubuntu
[10:25] <larsivi> GameOver: Your sound chip is probably most oftenly referred to as Riptide
[10:25] <slawek> does KERIO work  on kubuntu ?
[10:26] <GameOver> larsivi: ok sounds familiar
[10:26] <larsivi> GameOver: and that drivers are difficult to get by, at least without some kernel rebuilding
[10:26] <glick> anyone?
[10:26] <en1gma> does kubuntu flight 2 pickup a wifi remote access paoint router upon boot
[10:26] <en1gma> flight 2 live cd
[10:27] <GameOver> larsivi: i was reading about that.....  anyway u can help... ive actualy downloaded linux source 2.6.... etc
[10:27] <GameOver> can u help me do whatever i need to to get it working... if u have the time of course
[10:28] <larsivi> GameOver: check out the ubuntu notes at the bottom of this page: http://www.opensound.com/linux-x86.html
[10:28] <glick> anyone?
[10:28] <glick> damn
[10:28] <larsivi> GameOver: I'm going to bed now, sorry, not feeling to well
[10:28] <en1gma> larsivi does kubuntu flight 2 live cd  pickup a wifi remote access paoint router upon boot
[10:29] <GameOver> larsivi: ok it looks like it has support for riptide... so i just have to download something?
[10:29] <larsivi> en1gma: don't entirely understand the question, but I think you must go via KWifiManager or similar
[10:29] <glick> anyone have a firewire drive ?
[10:29] <larsivi> GameOver: Seems like it, and recompile the kernel...
[10:29] <glick> or usb drive?
[10:29] <larsivi> glick: sorry, no
[10:29] <larsivi> glick: usb, yes
[10:30] <glick> when you plug it in it works?
[10:30] <en1gma> well like for ex: DSL upon boot i have instant access through router through a cat5 cable (on this computer) but i have a laptop that i will use kubuntu on to and its wifi
[10:30] <larsivi> glick: my usb drive works out of the box
[10:30] <en1gma> will it be ready upon boot
[10:30] <glick> wtf mine did too for the longest time
[10:31] <larsivi> en1gma: I don't think any wifi on any OS is accessible on first time boot without some manual choosing/setup of the access point/SSID
[10:31] <larsivi> en1gma: at least here in Norway, an open network don't mean it is legal to access it
[10:32] <larsivi> well, good luck en1gma, and good night
[10:39] <en1gma> k thnx
[10:40] <en1gma> larsivi this network is in this house...its just the ppl using it wont want to configure it everytime it boots
[10:41] <larsivi> en1gma: If you are going to use a live CD, it might be difficult
[10:43] <nuzzy> Hi all - Just tried Ubunutu after many other distros and it rocks!  Does the Kubuntu CD/DVD run the same as the Ubuntu install except use KDE as the default desktop?
[10:44] <andkore> hi
[10:44] <andkore> so how does the kubuntu package manager work?
[10:44] <andkore> i'm thinking about using kubuntu, to see what alternatives to slackware are
[10:44] <andkore> i like slack alot
[10:45] <andkore> i just want something new
[10:46] <andkore> lo?
[10:46] <nuzzy> join #ubuntu
[10:47] <andkore> why? i know its the same pkg manager
[10:47] <andkore> but i can ask here cant i?
[10:47] <glick> this blows
[10:47] <andkore> what does?
[10:48] <glick> kubuntu not mounting my firewire drive correctly when i plug it in
[10:48] <nuzzy> sorry...that was me trying to join ubuntu...I forgot the slash
[10:48] <andkore> lol
[10:49] <hugo> hello
[10:49] <andkore> lo
[10:49] <hugo> I have 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' no my ubuntu breezy-badger, now how do i start KDE instead of Gnome?
[10:49] <andkore> glick: you mean automatically?
[10:50] <hugo> when i start a new session i get both kde and gnome toolbars
[10:50] <andkore> ouch that sucks
[10:50] <hugo> and gnome programs still shows in menus
[10:50] <andkore> i know how in slack :/
[10:50] <glick> andkore: yeah
[10:50] <andkore> what session manager you using?
[10:50] <glick> kdm
[10:50] <nuzzy> hugo...at login, choose KDE under "Session"
[10:50] <andkore> glick: no i meant hugo
[10:50] <andkore> lol
[10:50] <hugo> nuzzy: I did
[10:50] <glick> oh
[10:51] <hugo> i'm using GDM
[10:51] <andkore> glick: does it do it at all?
[10:51] <hugo> looks like both gnome _and_ kde starts
[10:51] <nuzzy> did you say to set as default?
[10:51] <glick> andkore: if i go to /media/sda[1-3]  i can look at my files
[10:51] <glick> and read them
[10:51] <glick> but thats it
[10:51] <andkore> oh
[10:51] <andkore> no write
[10:51] <andkore> as root?
[10:52] <hugo> nuzzy: doesn't matter if it's default
[10:52] <andkore> yeah
[10:52] <glick> as root im sure i culd write to it
[10:52] <hugo> I just want to log in to X with KDE only :P
[10:52] <andkore> glick: you can change this methinks
[10:52] <glick> also it doesnt mount the icons on the desktop anymore
[10:52] <andkore> :/
[10:52] <glick> it bitches about errors
[10:52] <andkore> probably permissions
[10:52] <nuzzy> no, but that's what I thought you wanted
[10:53] <hugo> can't anyone help me?
[10:53] <andkore> dang, haven't used linux for a few months
[10:53] <andkore> trying to think
[10:53] <andkore> what about sudo?
[10:58] <EnglishStan> ello people
[10:58] <andkore> lo
[10:58] <EnglishStan> need help :D
[10:58] <EnglishStan> please?? :P
[10:59] <arrinmurr> EnglishStan: just tell what's your problem / ask your question
[10:59] <EnglishStan> I wanna replace Konquorer with FireFox, how would i go about it?
[11:01] <EnglishStan> ???
[11:01] <andkore> sry
[11:01] <hugo> wasn't there anyone here who could help me with my gnome/kde problem?
[11:03] <glick> something weird is goin on
[11:03] <andkore> yes... mr. obviousman :P
[11:04] <glick> in the ubuntu desktop my firewire drive mounts, it creates icons to it on the desktop, but i cant write to it, on kde it does neither, only error messages pop up
[11:05] <andkore> permissions!
[11:05] <andkore> theres some way to change it so reg. users can write
[11:07] <dell500> does gnupod work on kubuntu?
[11:07] <dell500> i suppose it does since gtkpod and stuff works...
[11:07] <andkore> dell500: dude
[11:07] <andkore> this is what linux is about :D
[11:07] <andkore> everything should work
[11:10] <dell500> lol, good call andkore
[11:12] <dell500> well i just downloaded and burned the dvd for kubuntu :)
[11:12] <dell500> just gotta  backup everything..
[11:13] <EnglishStan> ello
[11:13] <EnglishStan> me again
[11:13] <EnglishStan> i'm on my linux machine now :D
[11:13] <EnglishStan> need to know how to install firefox :D
[11:14] <hugo> sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[11:14] <hugo> sudo apt-get remove konqueror
[11:14] <irielion> i have a question... when i insert a cd in kde... it prompts how to open it, but i also automatically opens it... thats anoying
[11:14] <EnglishStan> where do i get that from? was no download section on there site for linux
[11:15] <irielion> EnglishStan: its packaged in ubuntu repositery
[11:15] <irielion> when i insert a cd in kde... it prompts how to open it, but i also automatically opens it... thats anoying
[11:15] <EnglishStan> and that means?
[11:16] <irielion> that you open the package manager adept, and search for mozilla-firefox
[11:16] <irielion> or you open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[11:16] <irielion> it aint that hard
[11:16] <dell500> hugo, why remove konqueror?
[11:16] <irielion> yes dont remove konqueror
[11:16] <irielion> kde needs it
[11:16] <dell500> ya
[11:16] <dell500> for browsing folders and stuff
[11:16] <irielion> dell500: did you read my question
[11:17] <dell500> nope
[11:17] <irielion> when i insert a cd in kde... it prompts how to open it, but i also automatically opens it... thats anoying
[11:17] <EnglishStan> so at the run command, i type sudo??
[11:17] <irielion> yes
[11:17] <irielion> the EXACT line as stated before
[11:17] <dell500> EnglishStan: type 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox'
[11:17] <EnglishStan> nothing happens,,the box disappeared
[11:17] <dell500> without the ' '
[11:18] <EnglishStan> ah i see
[11:18] <dell500> i loath fresh installs, have to back everything up and make sure you don't forget anything...
[11:18] <EnglishStan> nothing happened
[11:18] <irielion> dell500: have you read the Q now?
[11:18] <irielion> EnglishStan: then use Adept like i told you
[11:18] <arrinmurr> EnglishStan: type konsole, press enter, and type the command there
[11:19] <dell500> irielion: that's kinda a statement, but you wanna make it so it doesn't open it but just prompt you for a selection/
[11:19] <dell500> what's adept?
[11:19] <irielion> dell500: yes exactly
[11:19] <bimberi> !adept
[11:19] <ubotu> Adept (successor of Kapture) is a package manager for Kubuntu. See http://web.ekhis.org/adept.html
[11:19] <dell500> google it, it's prolly a bug somewhere
[11:20] <dell500> so pretty much it's a apt-get kinda thing or synaptic
[11:20] <bimberi> dell500: yep :)
[11:20] <dell500> neat...
[11:20] <dell500> gonna have to get used to that
[11:20] <DjDarkman> hy ,what is artsd?
[11:20] <EnglishStan> Package mozilla-firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:20] <EnglishStan> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:20] <EnglishStan> is only available from another source
[11:20] <irielion> sound manager for kde
[11:20] <EnglishStan> E: Package mozilla-firefox has no installation candidate
[11:20] <EnglishStan> sorry
[11:20] <en1gma> when i boot up daper flight2 (live cd) it dont connect me to net like DSL does...whats up
[11:21] <dell500> EnglishStan: you might need to edit the repositories
[11:21] <irielion> englishstan, check howto on ubuntu help pages about that
[11:21] <EnglishStan> ah crap
[11:21] <dell500> i don't remeber how to do that lol
[11:21] <irielion> ADEPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:21] <EnglishStan> i only just install kubuntu too
[11:21] <EnglishStan> first time ever
[11:21] <en1gma> when i boot up daper flight2 (live cd) it dont connect me to net like DSL does...whats up
[11:21] <irielion> EnglishStan: ow i didnt know that ;)
[11:21] <dell500> :)
[11:21] <en1gma> help
[11:21] <DjDarkman> what is artsd?
[11:22] <irielion> DjDarkman: i just told you!
[11:22] <en1gma> uninstall artsd its a pos
[11:22] <matt_> Hi!
[11:22] <irielion> DjDarkman: sound manager for kde
[11:22] <DjDarkman> ohh i didn`t see
[11:22] <irielion> okay
[11:22] <en1gma> come on guys i cant connect to net. why dont kubuntu daper flight 2 (live cd) connect me to net upon bootup
[11:23] <en1gma> dsl does it automatically
[11:23] <irielion> because its a beta release
[11:23] <DjDarkman> irielion: does something happen if i kill it?
[11:23] <en1gma> does kubuntu (stable) connect to net upon bootup
[11:23] <irielion> there must be 2 kubuntu channels, one for newbies and the other for more experienced users
[11:23] <irielion> DjDarkman: yes... it dies and restarts automatically
[11:24] <DjDarkman> but how can i kill it permantly?
[11:24] <irielion> DjDarkman: But if you disable it, all the programs that rely on it will not function no more
[11:24] <en1gma> ok i cant connect to net wtf do i do
[11:24] <irielion> DjDarkman: why do you want to kill him?
[11:25] <DjDarkman> coz the sound in cedega isn`t functioning well
[11:25] <en1gma> artsd in kde 3.5 is screwed up trust me
[11:25] <arrinmurr> irielion: so that the experienced users wouldn't be there to help the newbies? ;)
[11:25] <en1gma> uninstall artsd
[11:25] <irielion> arrinmurr: but they could be in both
[11:25] <en1gma> and disable the kde sound system
[11:25] <irielion> artsd in 3.5 works fine
[11:25] <irielion> i use it in cedega aswell
[11:25] <arrinmurr> irielion: they _could_, but they wouldn't
[11:26] <en1gma> artsd is so screwed the ppl who make kde say art will not be included in kde 4.0
[11:26] <arrinmurr> irielion: and there's #kubuntu-offtopic anyway
[11:26] <irielion> yes artsd should be replaced
[11:26] <en1gma> artsd is a pos
[11:26] <irielion> use esd or somethin
[11:26] <en1gma> espicially if you have an nvidia chipset
[11:27] <en1gma> i unstall artsd and disable kde sound system and use kmix as my mixer and all works fine
[11:28] <irielion> however i jump out... all these irc stuff makes me nuts, havent done it in a long time...
[11:28] <irielion> aint no nerd nomore :)
[11:28] <en1gma> ok now ive helped how about some help for me
[11:28] <en1gma> i cant connect to net with kubuntu daper flight2 live cd
[11:28] <en1gma> what do i need to do
[11:29] <en1gma> using onboard nic and connected to router by lan cord
[11:30] <dell500> does anyone here know how to make the ipod not readonly
[11:30] <arafel> has anyone else had auto[make|conf]  problems with kubuntu? I've been trying to build mutt, and everything keeps giving me grief.
[11:30] <en1gma> I CANT CONNECT TO NET CAN SOMEONE HELP ME FOR GODS SAKE
[11:31] <arafel> en1gma: anyone likely is going to need more details before they can
[11:31] <dell500> lol en1gma !
[11:35] <en1gma> i just gave every detail you could want
[11:36] <en1gma> "<en1gma> when i boot up daper flight2 (live cd) it dont connect me to net like DSL does...whats up"
[11:36] <en1gma> "<en1gma> using onboard nic and connected to router by lan cord "
[11:36] <en1gma> "<en1gma> dsl does it automatically"
[11:37] <en1gma> what other info is needed
[11:37] <e_machinist> Are there any Kubuntu or KDE related repositories, not listed in the wiki?
[11:37] <fusionfox> how do i change the apt resources data?
[11:38] <dell500> en1gma: that's kinda broad, maybe the lancard isn't installed correctly or something
[11:38] <arafel> en1gma: you don't get an IP address issued? it can't see the card? you can see the card and get an IP, but can't ping? can't resolve?
[11:38] <en1gma> DSL works perfect
[11:38] <arafel> DSL being...?
[11:38] <en1gma> the card is seen with ifconfig -a but no ip address issued
[11:38] <en1gma> damn small linux
[11:38] <dell500> en1gma: did you try renewing it in console?
[11:39] <en1gma> i tried ifconfig eth0 up but it wont let me cause im not root
[11:39] <dell500> I'm not too familar with the breezy kde setup, i'm on gnome
[11:39] <en1gma> i dont know root password
[11:39] <fusionfox> how do i change the apt sources FILE people cant anyone take 3 secs and answer me!
[11:39] <dell500> oh.
[11:39] <dell500> well look up the live cd password or something on google
[11:40] <arafel> en1gma: live CD has no root password. "sudo bash".
[11:40] <en1gma> this is crazy it dont work upon boot
[11:40] <arafel> fusionfox: edit /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[11:40] <en1gma> i was trying the daper flight2 maybe its too beta how about just regular kubuntu does it work upon boot
[11:40] <arafel> fusionfox: please note you'll get a better response from people if you're polite.
[11:41] <fusionfox> lol xP i asked polite
[11:41] <fusionfox> and no one answer
[11:41] <fusionfox> i say bad things
[11:41] <fusionfox> and i got answers fomr every chat
[11:41] <fusionfox> =D
[11:41] <fusionfox> even the dpkg answered me =P
[11:41] <arafel> you asked right after joining, then complained 2 minutes later because nobody answer.
[11:41] <en1gma> this kubuntu live cd isnt for me (sure i can configure everything) but the person i giving the cd to can not
[11:42] <arafel> en1gma: try the breezy one instead, maybe?
[11:42] <en1gma> daper breezy?
[11:42] <arrinmurr> en1gma: is he/she going to use it as a live cd or install it on hd?
[11:42] <en1gma> how does the order go? kubuntu official release then daper flight 2 (for current) then breezy = what
[11:42] <en1gma> live cd only
[11:43] <arafel> breezy is the previous stable release.
[11:43] <arafel> sorry, previous == current
[11:43] <arrinmurr> en1gma: i think knoppix might be better choise then
[11:43] <en1gma> oh so it goes kubuntu official release then breezy = current then daper flight2 = testing?
[11:43] <arrinmurr> en1gma: unless there's something kubuntu-specific that's needed
[11:44] <en1gma> oh ok yea i wasnt sure which live cd to go with...ive tried DSL, slax and now lubuntu
[11:44] <arafel> en1gma: the kubuntu official release is breezy. :-)
[11:44] <en1gma> kubuntu*
[11:44] <en1gma> ahhh
[11:45] <arafel> the latest ubuntu and kubuntu stable release is 5.10, breezy badger. the next release will be dapper drake, which is currently releasing "flight" (AKA testing) discs.
[11:45] <en1gma> does anyone with a similar hardware config as me know if breezy autoconfigs the network upon boot (NF2 with onboard lan) connected to router (cable) by lan cord
[11:45] <en1gma> i like kubuntu for this person but network has to be connected at DE
[11:46] <_christian> en1gma: Yes, it does, in most cases. Some types of onboard ethernet cards have trouble with [k] buntu
[11:46] <arafel> en1gma: I can't, I'm afraid; it tried to autoconf mine, but the network's protected and it didn't have the key.
[11:46] <arafel> once I gave it the key, it successfully autoconfigured, though.
[11:46] <en1gma> ah see this network needs no key
[11:47] <arafel> in that case, you'll probably be okay
[11:47] <en1gma> flight_master it loads the nic driver for it called forcedeth
[11:47] <en1gma> with breezy or are you running daper
[11:47] <en1gma> ahh ok maybe i need to go and try breezy if that dont work i think i will have to try knoppix or puppy linux
[11:48] <en1gma> im running out of live cds
[11:48] <en1gma> :)
[11:48] <arafel> knoppix is also good.
[11:48] <arafel> I believe my motherboard is also NF2, if that helps any.
[11:49] <en1gma> yea that does help
[11:49] <en1gma> you think i should waste my time dloading breezy or just go straight to knoppix
[11:49] <en1gma> it does take sometime to dload all this
[11:50] <en1gma> note the person this live cd is gonna be for has a system with only 256MB ram
[11:50] <mr-russ> breezy's live cd is very slow.
[11:50] <arafel> I've had no problems of that kind with either, to be honest.
[11:50] <arafel> "of that kind" == network problems.
[11:50] <arafel> the lack-of-key thing is a problem with the underlying tools.
[11:51] <en1gma> breezy boots slow to DE or is slow at DE
[11:52] <arafel> it's a hazard of live discs, particularly with limited amounts of RAM. Anything that's not cached they have to pull off CD.
[11:52] <arafel> I didn't notice the breezy live disc being particularly slower than any other I'd tried, but to be honest I didn't use it for long.
[11:52] <en1gma> mr-russ was saying breezy is slow but im wondering if he talks about it being slow upon boot or slow in KDE
[11:53] <mr-russ> both.
[11:53] <mr-russ> still spends lots of time using the CD.
[11:53] <en1gma> knoppix dont?
[11:53] <mr-russ> even after it's booted up.  Especially on a machine with limited (256mb) ram.
[11:54] <arafel> IME all live discs do, but...
[11:54] <en1gma> which one is better on system resources
[11:54] <arrinmurr> en1gma: i don't know about kubuntu livecd, but ubuntu livecd was in many ways much slower than knoppix
[11:54] <mr-russ> en1gma: less in my experience of using them both.
[11:54] <knubbe> how come i just got a menu option called "debian"? :-)
[11:55] <en1gma> i got 26% of breezy might as well just try it since im that far
[11:57] <houn> Quick Question: Kubuntu == Ubuntu with KDE by default, yes?  Any other significant differences?
[11:57] <arafel> houn: no
[11:57] <arafel> you can turn one into the other just by installing the appropriate package, as far as I'm aware. :)
[11:58] <houn> Cool.  I'll grab Kubuntu anyway to save a bit of time, then, hehe
[11:58] <arafel> (waits for people to pop up and correct him)
[11:58] <en1gma> is gnome better then kde on system resources such as ram
[11:58] <houn> The FAQ on the site doesn't mention anything else, but thought it safest to ask.
[11:58] <en1gma> ubuntu = gnome right?
[11:59] <houn> en1gma: In my personal experience, KDE tends to run better on my box, but I've got nothing hard to back that with.
[11:59] <arafel> en1gma: ubuntu is gnome by default, yes
[11:59] <suso> wenas
[11:59] <en1gma> see this system only has 256mb ram so i got to be carefull in choosing correct live cd distro....even DSL used almost all the ram even without KDE
[11:59] <en1gma> it used flux
[12:00] <arafel> en1gma: the RAM will all be used, but most of it will probably go in caches of various kinds.
[12:00] <arafel> generally you *want* the kernel to make active use of it all. :-)
[12:00] <en1gma> i might even have to check out ubuntu but god i like kde so much better
[12:00] <hawking> Does anyone know of any infrared configuration tools for kde?
[12:01] <arrinmurr> en1gma: at least knoppix runs fine on my machine, and i've got 256MB of ram
[12:01] <en1gma> on my amd64 box i issued the command "dsl toram" and it loads the whole thing into ram and i dont have to keep live cd in drive at all
[12:01] <arafel> dsl is, by definition, small.
[12:01] <en1gma> arrinmurr knoppix uses kde?
[12:01] <arrinmurr> en1gma: yeah, it has the k-sound, doesn't it ;)
[12:02] <en1gma> dsl is nice but i cant get it to come out right for some reason
[12:02] <suso> alguien que able espaol?
[12:02] <en1gma> yes it does dont it :)
[12:02] <en1gma> i thought the k was silent
[12:02] <juif> hello channel
[12:02] <en1gma> "K"-noppix now i get it
[12:02] <suso> hellow juif
[12:02] <en1gma> hiya
[12:02] <juif> i need help with JACK, ALSA and whatever i need to get Ardour running