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| ttaulman | i've lost sound on thinck client, server ubuntu 5.10, client's edubuntu/ubuntu 5.10. any ideas? | 07:30 |
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| ttaulman | nfs file shares? | 08:28 |
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| KZ | hi | 08:57 |
| ttaulman | hi | 08:59 |
| KZ | i'm interested how will linux affect if i have XP already? | 09:00 |
| KZ | will it share files, or have it's own | 09:00 |
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| spike | KZ: see the topic, for general support ask in #ubuntu, this channel is dedicted to the server edition | 09:01 |
| KZ | oh | 09:01 |
| KZ | sorry | 09:01 |
| spike | np | 09:01 |
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| ttaulman | i'm losing sound when using ubuntu breezy as server and ubuntu breezy client, ldap authenticate and nfs shares for /home. any ideas? | 09:03 |
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| lionelp | ttaulman: it's a problem of rights on sound devices | 09:15 |
| lionelp | you have two solutions (i am not realy fond of one of the two solution, but i have not found another one that satisfies me until today) | 09:16 |
| lionelp | or you add the user of the workstation to the correct groups (audio, video, etc.), or you change the files in /etc/udev.d the rights in order that everybody can write on the devices | 09:19 |
| lionelp | you will have the sames problem if your users want to use usb keys | 09:19 |
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| ttaulman | lionelp, the user are members of the audio group and they still don't work | 09:53 |
| lionelp | hum... that's strange | 09:54 |
| lionelp | the local audio group ? | 09:54 |
| ttaulman | lionelp, i haven't tried the other option | 09:54 |
| ttaulman | mot the local audio group because they are only on the server | 09:55 |
| lionelp | ah... | 09:55 |
| lionelp | you can add a ldap user to a local group | 09:55 |
| ttaulman | oh.. | 09:55 |
| lionelp | (ok, that's a bit strange but...) | 09:56 |
| ttaulman | do i need to? | 09:56 |
| lionelp | if you don't want, the LDAP audio group and the local MUST have the same gidNumber | 09:56 |
| ttaulman | wouldn't that mean i would have to add all users that might use the computer to local also to make it work? | 09:57 |
| lionelp | yes, if you use the first solution, you have to do it | 09:57 |
| ttaulman | so the second one, change the /etc/udev.d will work? | 09:58 |
| lionelp | yep | 09:59 |
| lionelp | you have to change the rights on the /dev/audio/* | 09:59 |
| ttaulman | ok, what exactly do i change, i'll have to bring it up and look at it, and do i change it on the server or the client? | 09:59 |
| lionelp | let me have a kick look, i don't know it by heart :) | 10:01 |
| lionelp | in the file /etc/udev/permissions.d/udev.permissions | 10:03 |
| lionelp | where the group "audio" figures, change the permission from 660 to 666 | 10:03 |
| ttaulman | ok, i see that, client or server? | 10:05 |
| lionelp | on the client | 10:07 |
| ttaulman | hold on, don't see that on the client, it just says audio, no permission number like others have | 10:07 |
| lionelp | it's a breezy on the client ? | 10:09 |
| ttaulman | yep, only have /etc/udev no permissions.d just a permissions.rules file | 10:10 |
| lionelp | you're right | 10:11 |
| lionelp | i look on a computer that have been updated | 10:11 |
| lionelp | ok, it's int the permissions.rules | 10:12 |
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| ttaulman | that is where i don't see numbers for audio, just says subsystem=sound and group=audio | 10:13 |
| lionelp | yes, add a MODE="0660" before GROUP="audio" | 10:15 |
| ttaulman | i'll give it a shot within the next 30 minutes and let you know, thanks | 10:30 |
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| ttaulman | lionelp, got it by using a mode="0666". now why does it take almost 2 minutes to log on? | 11:13 |
| lionelp | i think that there is no link, but.... | 11:17 |
| Xoritor | how well does ubuntu handle lvm during install? | 11:28 |
| Xoritor | i want to install but not loose some of my data on my server... ie databases and webdocs | 11:28 |
| spike | Xoritor: if u're doing an installation how can u lose data? or did I miss something? | 11:30 |
| Xoritor | spike, i will be installing ubuntu on a server that is running FC4 right now | 11:31 |
| Xoritor | hence the install part of it | 11:31 |
| Xoritor | and the loose data part of it | 11:31 |
| Xoritor | spike, not a "new install" on a bare disk, but a "new install" over a diff distro | 11:32 |
| Xoritor | on a working server | 11:32 |
| Xoritor | i guess i should try it on my workstation fist | 11:33 |
| Xoritor | s/fist/first/ | 11:33 |
| spike | Xoritor: and you have LVM on FC4? | 11:33 |
| spike | Xoritor: testing is of course given as backups | 11:34 |
| Xoritor | spike, yes i have lvm on FC4 | 11:34 |
| Xoritor | spike, FC4 defaults to using lvm | 11:34 |
| spike | in general questions about "losing data" shouldnt happen because u must have backups, tho | 11:34 |
| Xoritor | spike, i always try to use lvm if possible | 11:34 |
| spike | I c, don't know FC4, wanted to give it a try, tho | 11:35 |
| spike | expecially the Directory thingie they put together, looks very interesting | 11:35 |
| Xoritor | FC4 is not bad, but i want to give ubuntu a shot | 11:35 |
| Xoritor | its nice | 11:35 |
| Xoritor | i worked for RH for 3 years | 11:35 |
| Xoritor | just recently switched jobs | 11:35 |
| Xoritor | the the directory server should run in ubuntu | 11:35 |
| Xoritor | there is a tarball of it, sources too | 11:36 |
| Xoritor | its very nice | 11:36 |
| Xoritor | i have it running, and it really makes directory management easy | 11:36 |
| Xoritor | and fast | 11:36 |
| spike | cool, it's on my todo list, hope to get the time soon | 11:36 |
| Xoritor | but my question was more along the lines of "does ubnuntu" support lvm during installs? | 11:37 |
| Xoritor | i have not seen anything saying one way or the other | 11:37 |
| spike | regarding ubuntu and lvm at install time: I never had a single prob with it, the installer isnt wonderful imho, tho | 11:37 |
| Xoritor | do i have access to a shell? | 11:37 |
| Xoritor | if so i can do it all at the cli if the tools are there | 11:38 |
| spike | yes, but busybox hasnt got lvm tools, so it doesnt really matter | 11:38 |
| Xoritor | and it is lvm2? | 11:38 |
| spike | yes, it's lvm2 | 11:38 |
| Xoritor | cool | 11:38 |
| spike | evms tools are available too | 11:38 |
| Xoritor | so the lvm command works for the "lvm shell" during install right? | 11:38 |
| Xoritor | never used evms | 11:38 |
| Xoritor | much difference? | 11:39 |
| spike | no, see above "but busybox hasnt got lvm tools<--------, so it doesnt really matter" | 11:39 |
| spike | differences are in the management tools | 11:39 |
| Xoritor | i understand about busybox not having them, FC and RHEL use busybox but the shell during install and rescue modes have access to the lvm utility | 11:40 |
| spike | lvm hasnt got one, official I mean, then things like SLES and RHEL of course have got their own tool | 11:40 |
| spike | evms offers 3 different interfaces, from GUI to ncurses based | 11:40 |
| spike | it's really handy | 11:40 |
| Xoritor | all i need is the cli one | 11:41 |
| Xoritor | heh | 11:41 |
| spike | at low level both rely on dm, and have the same set of features | 11:42 |
| Xoritor | if i can do things like "lvm vgscan" and "lvm vgchange -ay" during the install i will be fine | 11:42 |
| spike | Xoritor: bah, I might be wrong, check out what's on the cd, but iirc last time I looked at it lvm tools werent there | 11:42 |
| Xoritor | they have to be there to install it into lvms | 11:43 |
| spike | with the busybox shipped I mean | 11:43 |
| Xoritor | can it be installed into an lvm? | 11:43 |
| spike | sure | 11:43 |
| Xoritor | then the tools have to be there | 11:43 |
| Xoritor | if they are not you cant install cause you cant create and activate the volumes | 11:44 |
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