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joined #ubuntu-server === spike_ [n=spike@81-179-65-133.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-server === spike_ is now known as spike === _torkel [n=torkel@217.168.89.109] has joined #ubuntu-server === bustacap [n=bustacap@203-206-46-153.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-server === dfgas [n=dfgas@adsl-69-210-84-17.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === ealden [n=ealden@219.90.91.232] has joined #ubuntu-server === spike__ [n=spike@81-179-113-84.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-server === spike__ is now known as spike === soumyadip [n=soumyadi@59.93.247.41] has joined #ubuntu-server === MarioMeyer [n=meyer@ubuntu/member/mariomeyer] has joined #ubuntu-server === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-251-210.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-server === ttaulman [n=ttaulman@12-221-114-30.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-server [07:30] i've lost sound on thinck client, server ubuntu 5.10, client's edubuntu/ubuntu 5.10. any ideas? [08:28] nfs file shares? === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-server === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-server === Valandil [n=chrys@dslb-084-056-106-020.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === KZ [n=srecko92@cmung991.cmu.carnet.hr] has joined #ubuntu-server [08:57] hi [08:59] hi [09:00] i'm interested how will linux affect if i have XP already? [09:00] will it share files, or have it's own === mipe [n=mipe@223-7-124-83.dsl.3u.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [09:01] KZ: see the topic, for general support ask in #ubuntu, this channel is dedicted to the server edition [09:01] oh [09:01] sorry [09:01] np === KZ [n=srecko92@cmung991.cmu.carnet.hr] has left #ubuntu-server [] [09:03] i'm losing sound when using ubuntu breezy as server and ubuntu breezy client, ldap authenticate and nfs shares for /home. any ideas? === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-245-191.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-server === dfgas [n=dfgas@adsl-69-210-84-17.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [09:15] ttaulman: it's a problem of rights on sound devices [09:16] you have two solutions (i am not realy fond of one of the two solution, but i have not found another one that satisfies me until today) [09:19] or you add the user of the workstation to the correct groups (audio, video, etc.), or you change the files in /etc/udev.d the rights in order that everybody can write on the devices [09:19] you will have the sames problem if your users want to use usb keys === Pygi [n=mario@83-131-244-227.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-server [09:53] lionelp, the user are members of the audio group and they still don't work [09:54] hum... that's strange [09:54] the local audio group ? [09:54] lionelp, i haven't tried the other option [09:55] mot the local audio group because they are only on the server [09:55] ah... [09:55] you can add a ldap user to a local group [09:55] oh.. [09:56] (ok, that's a bit strange but...) [09:56] do i need to? [09:56] if you don't want, the LDAP audio group and the local MUST have the same gidNumber [09:57] wouldn't that mean i would have to add all users that might use the computer to local also to make it work? [09:57] yes, if you use the first solution, you have to do it [09:58] so the second one, change the /etc/udev.d will work? [09:59] yep [09:59] you have to change the rights on the /dev/audio/* [09:59] ok, what exactly do i change, i'll have to bring it up and look at it, and do i change it on the server or the client? [10:01] let me have a kick look, i don't know it by heart :) [10:03] in the file /etc/udev/permissions.d/udev.permissions [10:03] where the group "audio" figures, change the permission from 660 to 666 [10:05] ok, i see that, client or server? [10:07] on the client [10:07] hold on, don't see that on the client, it just says audio, no permission number like others have [10:09] it's a breezy on the client ? [10:10] yep, only have /etc/udev no permissions.d just a permissions.rules file [10:11] you're right [10:11] i look on a computer that have been updated [10:12] ok, it's int the permissions.rules === GheRivero [n=ghe@81.172.91.223] has joined #ubuntu-server [10:13] that is where i don't see numbers for audio, just says subsystem=sound and group=audio [10:15] yes, add a MODE="0660" before GROUP="audio" [10:30] i'll give it a shot within the next 30 minutes and let you know, thanks === Xoritor [n=xoritor@xorit.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [11:13] lionelp, got it by using a mode="0666". now why does it take almost 2 minutes to log on? [11:17] i think that there is no link, but.... [11:28] how well does ubuntu handle lvm during install? [11:28] i want to install but not loose some of my data on my server... ie databases and webdocs [11:30] Xoritor: if u're doing an installation how can u lose data? or did I miss something? [11:31] spike, i will be installing ubuntu on a server that is running FC4 right now [11:31] hence the install part of it [11:31] and the loose data part of it [11:32] spike, not a "new install" on a bare disk, but a "new install" over a diff distro [11:32] on a working server [11:33] i guess i should try it on my workstation fist [11:33] s/fist/first/ [11:33] Xoritor: and you have LVM on FC4? [11:34] Xoritor: testing is of course given as backups [11:34] spike, yes i have lvm on FC4 [11:34] spike, FC4 defaults to using lvm [11:34] in general questions about "losing data" shouldnt happen because u must have backups, tho [11:34] spike, i always try to use lvm if possible [11:35] I c, don't know FC4, wanted to give it a try, tho [11:35] expecially the Directory thingie they put together, looks very interesting [11:35] FC4 is not bad, but i want to give ubuntu a shot [11:35] its nice [11:35] i worked for RH for 3 years [11:35] just recently switched jobs [11:35] the the directory server should run in ubuntu [11:36] there is a tarball of it, sources too [11:36] its very nice [11:36] i have it running, and it really makes directory management easy [11:36] and fast [11:36] cool, it's on my todo list, hope to get the time soon [11:37] but my question was more along the lines of "does ubnuntu" support lvm during installs? [11:37] i have not seen anything saying one way or the other [11:37] regarding ubuntu and lvm at install time: I never had a single prob with it, the installer isnt wonderful imho, tho [11:37] do i have access to a shell? [11:38] if so i can do it all at the cli if the tools are there [11:38] yes, but busybox hasnt got lvm tools, so it doesnt really matter [11:38] and it is lvm2? [11:38] yes, it's lvm2 [11:38] cool [11:38] evms tools are available too [11:38] so the lvm command works for the "lvm shell" during install right? [11:38] never used evms [11:39] much difference? [11:39] no, see above "but busybox hasnt got lvm tools<--------, so it doesnt really matter" [11:39] differences are in the management tools [11:40] i understand about busybox not having them, FC and RHEL use busybox but the shell during install and rescue modes have access to the lvm utility [11:40] lvm hasnt got one, official I mean, then things like SLES and RHEL of course have got their own tool [11:40] evms offers 3 different interfaces, from GUI to ncurses based [11:40] it's really handy [11:41] all i need is the cli one [11:41] heh [11:42] at low level both rely on dm, and have the same set of features [11:42] if i can do things like "lvm vgscan" and "lvm vgchange -ay" during the install i will be fine [11:42] Xoritor: bah, I might be wrong, check out what's on the cd, but iirc last time I looked at it lvm tools werent there [11:43] they have to be there to install it into lvms [11:43] with the busybox shipped I mean [11:43] can it be installed into an lvm? [11:43] sure [11:43] then the tools have to be there [11:44] if they are not you cant install cause you cant create and activate the volumes === Xoritor [n=xoritor@xorit.net] has left #ubuntu-server ["Leaving"]